What this man fails to provide or his interviewer is the overwhelming fact that among all and any legitimate Old Catholic and Independent Catholic or even authentic self governing Orthodox communities the so called Independent Sacramental Movement is considered a joke. It is my understanding that indeed the interviewer was denounced by his entire community when it was discovered that he had been ordained by persons who were deeply involved in an organization that apparently spawned the self named "movement" which is no movement at all that was based in a New Age group in the U S. I am told that the interviewer does not acknowledge this event and continues to promote what is essentially a web site. There are no actually ministries except on web pages with slick clip art and very good hype and spin.