The female substitute host said something like "someone pulled a cop's gun and pointed it at him, but unfortunately didn't pull the trigger" and another comment along the same lines.

I know John is all for property damage, bit this is a bit harsh and not the kind of thing I'd expect to hear from him, so I was surprised to hear it from one of his stand-ins this episode. I've only been listening a few months, but did I miss something?

From a 2006 interview with Zerzan at www.creelcommission.com:

Q: what are your views on the use of violence, it's obviously a hot question, obviously you have the history of conversing with Kacynski the Unabomber and i wondered what your views were on the use of violence against the system?

A: my hope is that there could be a shift that wouldn't use so much violence, and i may have mentioned that in london that when Katrina hit New Orleans last Fall, there were a considerable percentage of cops who didn't show up to work, so the other side isnt necessarily completely reliable for the status quo... but i think its important for me to make the distinction between property damage and violence against life, i have no hesitation to do damage on that level of property destruction , but doing damage against people i really hope that can be avoided...