Artificial Intelligence discussion, Boulder Future Salon, May 2007. Participants: Wayne (me), Doug, Rich, Sarah, Christopher, Robert, Ann D., Ann O., Annie.
A random meandering conversation touching on many subjects such as
Playing Go and playing Chess
The Turing Test
The Grand Challenge clever tricks that humans can't do
your brain is smart at figuring out what your eyes see
brains and evolution, brains evolved only 700,000 years ago
The Loebner prize, and how humans were judged to be machines
how people confess to Eliza, how Eliza should be hooked to Google
neural nets worse than insects, and can't introspect
possibility of making AI's as intelligent as a philosopher
programming from the conscious mind vs subconscious mind
Monica Anderson's robot that walks like a starfish, versatility and adaptivity of walking gaits
is it a cockroach, or is it a tape recording?
genetic algorithms to learn to walk -- by somersaulting
"I want a program for my car to display the last speed limit sign seen"
stitching together photos to make a panaramic view, motion processing of the eye
our ability to remember faces, how much processing power do you need for image processing?
language is very high level and can't be broken down into a block diagram
how to screw up the Google Translater when tranlating from Chinese
Stuff between the lines is between the lines, double meanings, languages are inherently ambiguous, "trouble may wander far and wide, but it is always near"
Shannon's Limit on communication bandwidth
how can a program take multiple branches on an "if" probabalistically?
Computers can do integrals (the Risch Algorithm) like the world's best mathematicians, but can't do anything a 4-year-old can do
The human genome is 3.31GBP of DNA, or about 800MB
800MB is not enough? much more happening in a cell
the genome has learning algorithms, learning how to see
10^11 cells in the human brain, other cells in the brain, besides nerve cells
emergent complexity during growth, if you cut tendons in birds, wings don't grow
what is the difference between instinct and knowledge?
algorthims for figuring out how to figure out how to wire the neurons
monkey neurons speak a "set" language?
The axioms of mathematics is about 30, but the axioms we need is not a finite number
neurons are computationally complete, the fact that humans can do arithmetic proves humans have all the capabilities of a computer, humans natural inclination is not for doing integrals
the emotions of crossing the street
what's the algorithm for open-ended learning?
do horses dream of walking? do babies dream of the equations of inverted pendulums?
snowboarding and big wave surfing
humans are intelligent because we are inbred?
the brain is a good use of energy (for some people), brain uses a lot of calories, it has to pay off, does for humans and dolphins
what makes humans different from other primates? is it just brain size or is it cellular?
the information in the fertilized cell -- how much? vs the DNA? There is information in the nucleus not in the DNA
Von Neuman machines is just a set of operations and a stinkin load of memory -- what makes a blank slate that *thinks*?
are the materials in the factory (the lipids and proteins) the same as the blueprints for the factory?
Conway's Game Of Life
with DNA you can't "run" it without everything that goes with it
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