Internet Archive: Details: Cambrian House 2007-02-16 Demo Day

(1:30:35 PM) blender entered the room.
(1:30:35 PM) techguy entered the room.
(1:30:35 PM) demodrone entered the room.
(1:30:35 PM) cybercerberus entered the room.
(1:30:35 PM) JT entered the room.
(1:30:35 PM) gordonmcdowell entered the room.
(1:20:22 PM) cybercerberus: whoever said "nope" has tiny fonts
(1:20:54 PM) gordonmcdowell: techguy said nope
(1:21:10 PM) cybercerberus: this'll have to do
(1:21:10 PM) techguy: i'm leaving my fonts tiny until i have something important to say
(1:21:16 PM) gordonmcdowell: k
(1:21:35 PM) cybercerberus: yeah unfortunately it's not mapping names to chat lines
(1:21:38 PM) cybercerberus: I can see who's in here
(1:21:39 PM) gordonmcdowell: i guess i'll claim everything i say is important. its the "me" font
(1:21:42 PM) cybercerberus: but not who is talking
(1:21:56 PM) gordonmcdowell: k
(1:22:03 PM) techguy: lol...i guess i chat doesn't do rooms...just 1 to 1 chat
(1:22:26 PM) gordonmcdowell: gord back to normal-ish font i'll try digitally zooming in further with projector
(1:22:41 PM) gordonmcdowell: test
(1:22:48 PM) gordonmcdowell: test
(1:24:53 PM) cybercerberus: it does rooms
(1:25:19 PM) cybercerberus: but it doesn't map names to lines
(1:25:21 PM) cybercerberus: it uses icons
(1:25:25 PM) cybercerberus: none of you have icons
(1:25:48 PM) cybercerberus: if it didn't do rooms how would I be here right now dude?
(1:27:00 PM) cybercerberus: Hey, Gord. I think the upper-right frame is frozen
(1:27:11 PM) cybercerberus: either that or DonH has been holding that bowl for like 2 hours
(1:27:15 PM) JT: Hey gang, just wondering what chat clients ppl are using?
(1:27:29 PM) cybercerberus: iChat
(1:27:40 PM) JT: Cool - I'm using PSI
(1:29:30 PM) cybercerberus: aha, now I have names
(1:29:55 PM) gordonmcdowell: i did a icon will sign out and in see if that displays it
(1:30:42 PM) gordonmcdowell: errrrrrrr. i don't see it
(1:30:47 PM) gordonmcdowell: what EVER
(1:30:55 PM) cybercerberus: nor do I
(1:31:08 PM) cybercerberus: it's okay
(1:31:12 PM) techguy: i'm using gaim JT
(1:31:14 PM) cybercerberus: I see names
(1:31:37 PM) techguy: cool CC
(1:31:59 PM) JT: thanks techguy
(1:32:10 PM) techguy: i agree the upper right is frozen
(1:32:36 PM) gordonmcdowell: thx will ifx
(1:32:38 PM) gordonmcdowell: fix
(1:33:14 PM) techguy: i see a ?
(1:33:15 PM) techguy: hmmm
(1:33:26 PM) techguy: ok...a nice pic of nox
(1:33:28 PM) techguy: now ?
(1:33:30 PM) techguy: lol
(1:33:39 PM) cybercerberus: wtf
(1:33:42 PM) cybercerberus: ?
(1:34:14 PM) cybercerberus: now just frozen frame
(1:34:44 PM) gordonmcdowell: ok, i'll shut down wirecast and start it back up. i wasn't too careful when i changed a camera maybe i gimped it
(1:37:50 PM) demodrone left the room.
(1:38:36 PM) gordonmcdowell: graceful like a swan. gotta reboot laptop. a DV camera actually had no power
(1:41:01 PM) cybercerberus: hehe
(1:41:18 PM) cybercerberus: do I need to restart the feed or will it "just work"?
(1:41:56 PM) gordonmcdowell: dunno, i think you'll have to restart but give me more time not up
(1:42:04 PM) gordonmcdowell: yet want to see if it "just works"
(1:42:16 PM) cybercerberus: I'll wait and see if it "just works"
(1:42:20 PM) cybercerberus: tell me when it sould be
(1:42:22 PM) cybercerberus: should even
(1:43:45 PM) demodrone entered the room.
(1:44:04 PM) gordonmcdowell: k
(1:44:15 PM) gordonmcdowell: its up and running
(1:44:30 PM) cybercerberus: something odd is happening
(1:44:48 PM) gordonmcdowell: what? i'll try tap in
(1:44:51 PM) cybercerberus: ouch
(1:44:58 PM) cybercerberus: it timed out when I paused/resumed
(1:45:46 PM) cybercerberus: okay, with reconnect, it's working
(1:45:53 PM) gordonmcdowell: k well i guess my suggestion there if it dies is open url in QT and it will hopefully give you the last url as 1st option in drop-down
(1:46:13 PM) cybercerberus: yeah there's "Open Recent"
(1:46:25 PM) cybercerberus: wow, only 15 mins left
(1:46:36 PM) cybercerberus: Maybe you could go ahead and turn on the proper audio....
(1:46:38 PM) cybercerberus: :)
(1:47:11 PM) gordonmcdowell: yeah i'll set up some more stuff
(1:47:23 PM) techguy: i'll be back after my meetings:-(
(1:47:30 PM) cybercerberus: bummer TG
(1:47:31 PM) cybercerberus: :(
(1:47:42 PM) cybercerberus: That's okay, I'll copy the whole transcript to the LC probably anyway ;)
(1:47:49 PM) cybercerberus: at least of the chat
(1:50:36 PM) rcourtna entered the room.
(1:50:55 PM) cybercerberus: yo rcourtna
(1:51:10 PM) rcourtna: how are you cybercerberus?
(1:51:27 PM) cybercerberus: I'm doing well. Doing some especially tedious work today but it's all good
(1:52:13 PM) rcourtna: TGIF
(1:55:26 PM) rcourtna: is there going to be a video feed of demodays?
(1:55:27 PM) techguy: and monday is a holiday...President's Day!!
(1:55:38 PM) rcourtna: Family Day in Alberta :-)
(1:55:46 PM) cybercerberus: rcourtna, don't you work at CH?
(1:55:51 PM) cybercerberus: I thought you did
(1:56:05 PM) rcourtna: Yes, but my nose has been in my keyboard all day :P
(1:56:13 PM) cybercerberus: haha you're probably on camera right now dude
(1:56:18 PM) rcourtna: lol
(1:56:46 PM) cybercerberus: we've got 3 angles
(1:57:05 PM) cybercerberus: NoxCam, White Table Cam, and Red Jacket Cam
(1:57:34 PM) rcourtna: i'll go wave
(1:57:48 PM) techguy: there's JR
(1:58:06 PM) cybercerberus: is that JR on WhiteTableCam?
(1:58:07 PM) techguy: bbl
(1:59:31 PM) JT: 1min to go... :)
(1:59:38 PM) JT: err, 10seconds, rather
(2:01:57 PM) JT: give or take, lol
(2:04:15 PM) cybercerberus: sounds like a rodeo in there
(2:04:21 PM) cybercerberus: Why do I still hear the annoying loop?
(2:04:29 PM) cybercerberus: but MIXED with the rodeo sounds
(2:04:48 PM) blender: immigrant song - zeppelin
(2:05:02 PM) blender: you probably heard the dukes of hazzard theme
(2:05:05 PM) cybercerberus: haha
(2:05:19 PM) cybercerberus: oh yeah I hear the Zep now
(2:05:24 PM) cybercerberus: that identifiable AAAHHHHHH
(2:05:37 PM) cybercerberus: GORD TURN OFF THE LOOP
(2:06:48 PM) cybercerberus: GORD I WILL SEND SOMEBODY TO MURDER YOU
(2:07:00 PM) cybercerberus: Um, there's audio now, dude
(2:07:15 PM) cybercerberus: it was just mixed with the loop
(2:08:02 PM) gordonmcdowell: k should be starting
(2:08:34 PM) cybercerberus: yup
(2:08:41 PM) cybercerberus: I even heard your sound checks with JR
(2:08:43 PM) cybercerberus: :)
(2:09:48 PM) cybercerberus: Was there writing on that paper?
(2:09:52 PM) cybercerberus: Yes, CC works :)
(2:10:06 PM) rachel@chat.cambrianhouse.com/Meebo entered the room.
(2:10:13 PM) cybercerberus: Hey Rach
(2:10:31 PM) rachel@chat.cambrianhouse.com/Meebo: hi!
(2:10:53 PM) cybercerberus: Gord made us use big fonts
(2:10:54 PM) cybercerberus: Sorry
(2:13:19 PM) rachel@chat.cambrianhouse.com/Meebo: paper said "hi CyberCerberus"!
(2:13:36 PM) cybercerberus: haha
(2:13:47 PM) cybercerberus: I could see the paper, but not the words :(
(2:17:19 PM) gordonmcdowell: testing (to find bottom of window)
(2:19:55 PM) cybercerberus: oh god
(2:20:04 PM) rachel@chat.cambrianhouse.com/Meebo: hehe
(2:20:50 PM) gordonmcdowell: hey sorry we'll show that with Rob's platform bit
(2:20:55 PM) cybercerberus: cool :)
(2:21:06 PM) cybercerberus: is this chat in front of everybody?
(2:21:16 PM) rachel@chat.cambrianhouse.com/Meebo: yeppers! :)
(2:21:18 PM) gordonmcdowell: yes if they can read it
(2:21:31 PM) cybercerberus: aye carumba
(2:21:44 PM) gordonmcdowell: so if you want to add comment we'll make sure people hear if not see
(2:22:03 PM) cybercerberus: thank you
(2:23:36 PM) gordonmcdowell: one of the cameras dead
(2:23:39 PM) cybercerberus: audio is cutting out
(2:23:43 PM) cybercerberus: uh oh
(2:24:41 PM) cybercerberus: okay all video dead now
(2:24:44 PM) cybercerberus: audio only
(2:24:50 PM) cybercerberus: oh it's back
(2:25:28 PM) gordonmcdowell: i'm plugging camera in and out hopefully that is why
(2:25:39 PM) cybercerberus: k
(2:25:44 PM) cybercerberus: I have a GWABS question
(2:26:00 PM) cybercerberus: People who pre-order are told they'll get a special "pimp cane"
(2:26:03 PM) cybercerberus: is that still true?
(2:26:22 PM) cybercerberus: awesome :)
(2:28:30 PM) cybercerberus: I like him better with the gangsta clothes, that's good stuff
(2:28:44 PM) cybercerberus: maybe he should be named Blue Ice
(2:28:49 PM) cybercerberus: :)
(2:29:43 PM) gordonmcdowell: dude if you see your text just below the camera frame, feel free to carriage return it to get it into frame
(2:29:52 PM) gordonmcdowell: .
(2:30:30 PM) cybercerberus: noted
(2:32:07 PM) gordonmcdowell: oh and if you go font bigger thats good too
(2:32:14 PM) cybercerberus: Man I've got it cranked
(2:32:17 PM) cybercerberus: Let me try some stuff
(2:32:20 PM) gordonmcdowell: bigger fonts are ALWAYS better! oh ok nevermind
(2:32:24 PM) gordonmcdowell: don't worry about it
(2:32:27 PM) cybercerberus: k
(2:33:00 PM) cybercerberus: it's just not coming through for you guys :(
(2:33:52 PM) cybercerberus: I'm trying Arial Black now...maybe that'll help
(2:34:08 PM) gordonmcdowell: way better thanks
(2:34:14 PM) cybercerberus: rock on
(2:34:40 PM) cybercerberus: yes
(2:34:52 PM) cybercerberus: there's a lot of murmuring
(2:35:02 PM) cybercerberus: but I can't understand much of what's being said if it's far from the cam
(2:36:16 PM) gordonmcdowell: mel says wouldn't it be great if it cleans off your screen after every battle
(2:36:20 PM) cybercerberus: I heard her
(2:36:22 PM) cybercerberus: :)
(2:36:26 PM) cybercerberus: I think it's a good idea
(2:36:51 PM) blender: with a big hand with a latex glove and a cloth - UFC style
(2:37:26 PM) cybercerberus: *hides under table*
(2:37:44 PM) cybercerberus: I have to watch other people watching myself on video
(2:37:59 PM) cybercerberus: the vid is 5 mins long
(2:38:57 PM) cybercerberus: man this is freaky
(2:39:16 PM) blender: like a david lynch film freaky?
(2:39:30 PM) cybercerberus: like I wanna hide under a table freaky
(2:42:08 PM) cybercerberus: sorry I talked so slowly, I was nervous
(2:42:09 PM) cybercerberus: .
(2:43:50 PM) gordonmcdowell: way to go
(2:43:51 PM) gordonmcdowell: .
(2:43:56 PM) cybercerberus: :)
(2:44:33 PM) cybercerberus: is "El_Jivaro" Jamie?
(2:44:46 PM) gordonmcdowell: yup
(2:44:49 PM) cybercerberus: k
(2:44:55 PM) cybercerberus: Yes Rob did slam him in the Forum :)
(2:45:31 PM) gordonmcdowell: i dunno
(2:45:40 PM) cybercerberus: hahah I think it was in fun
(2:45:50 PM) cybercerberus: Hey, btw, this whole "live" thing is awesome
(2:47:05 PM) cybercerberus: I can't read the chats though in the video
(2:47:38 PM) gordonmcdowell: shoot good to know if you can go bigger font that's the only way i can improve everything zoomed in max
(2:47:55 PM) cybercerberus: Let me experiment...tryin' to listen too though
(2:48:14 PM) gordonmcdowell: test font size
(2:48:17 PM) cybercerberus: test
(2:48:23 PM) cybercerberus: That's supposed to be 96 pt
(2:49:09 PM) cybercerberus: I see it's not working. :(
(2:49:19 PM) gordonmcdowell: k well don't worry you know what yer typing
(2:52:11 PM) cybercerberus: We <3 you Rob :)
(2:52:23 PM) cybercerberus: jill has been in your office
(2:52:51 PM) cybercerberus: She's an LC member. We have the info :)
(2:56:13 PM) techguy: ok...where are we at?
(2:56:30 PM) cybercerberus: have finished GWABS and platform
(2:56:36 PM) cybercerberus: moving into architecture
(2:56:48 PM) gordonmcdowell: this is d4v or "David Gluzman"
(2:57:22 PM) gordonmcdowell: flow for the "create project"
(2:57:30 PM) gordonmcdowell: and if you got big fonts use 'em
(2:57:41 PM) techguy: thanks
(2:57:47 PM) techguy: I'll be in and out
(3:00:20 PM) cybercerberus: as an aside, when you guys are redeploying these fancy new site features, please do consider Safari
(3:00:36 PM) cybercerberus: Mac users are often artists, musicians, etc. and you shouldn't alienate them
(3:01:08 PM) cybercerberus: IdeaWarz is STILL broken on Safari
(3:02:11 PM) cybercerberus: alright alright :-P
(3:02:49 PM) gordonmcdowell: i forgot to disable emoticons
(3:03:04 PM) cybercerberus: good! I need them to, you know, express emotion
(3:03:07 PM) gordonmcdowell: e m o t i c o n s
(3:03:33 PM) rcourtna left the room.
(3:03:56 PM) cybercerberus: hey guys while I have your attention
(3:04:01 PM) cybercerberus: I wanted to tell you about this great thing
(3:04:07 PM) cybercerberus: "Comedy Animal Porn"
(3:04:22 PM) cybercerberus: you TOTALLY have to check it out
(3:04:25 PM) cybercerberus: :-P
(3:04:52 PM) cybercerberus: THANK YOU
(3:04:54 PM) cybercerberus: :)
(3:06:12 PM) cybercerberus: FWIW, the LC is currently assembling a listing of online collaboration tools to suggest to you guys
(3:06:22 PM) cybercerberus: It's in progress
(3:08:45 PM) cybercerberus: *applause*
(3:09:33 PM) cybercerberus: Vive La Revolucione
(3:12:57 PM) cybercerberus: (Java's better)
(3:12:59 PM) cybercerberus: :-P
(3:13:13 PM) cybercerberus: shout out to CyberDong
(3:13:16 PM) cybercerberus: lol
(3:16:17 PM) cybercerberus: *applause* Awesome
(3:18:02 PM) techguy: is this on trac for the platform where we can see it?
(3:18:43 PM) techguy: whenever you want it reviewed is cool
(3:19:58 PM) techguy: Blender?
(3:20:57 PM) cybercerberus: is Blender the guy on the floor?
(3:21:05 PM) rachel@chat.cambrianhouse.com/Meebo: yeah
(3:21:10 PM) cybercerberus: thanks Rach :)
(3:21:11 PM) rachel@chat.cambrianhouse.com/Meebo: :)
(3:21:46 PM) techguy: rachel: can you tell us who is up next...and topic...so if we're in and out or don't know the face we can follow it
(3:21:57 PM) cybercerberus: woah...audio is DEAD
(3:21:59 PM) techguy: same
(3:22:03 PM) rachel@chat.cambrianhouse.com/Meebo: for sure
(3:22:14 PM) cybercerberus: gonna try reconnecting feed
(3:22:15 PM) rachel@chat.cambrianhouse.com/Meebo: gords on it
(3:22:18 PM) gordonmcdowell: right
(3:22:20 PM) gordonmcdowell: o oh oh
(3:22:25 PM) techguy: they're bleeping it out;-)
(3:22:26 PM) gordonmcdowell: stupid gord
(3:22:28 PM) gordonmcdowell: sorry
(3:22:35 PM) techguy: back
(3:22:44 PM) rachel@chat.cambrianhouse.com/Meebo: this is david/d4v... again ;)
(3:23:04 PM) cybercerberus: yeah I have audio again
(3:26:47 PM) cybercerberus: This move to a CSS-based website is just as smart as the conversion to using APIs. Upvote from me.
(3:28:23 PM) rachel@chat.cambrianhouse.com/Meebo: more David and Chris
(3:30:32 PM) cybercerberus: thanks for the chat zoom Gord, I can read it now!!!
(3:30:36 PM) gordonmcdowell: hey rachel want to switch to a bigger font?
(3:30:49 PM) rachel@chat.cambrianhouse.com/Meebo: better?
(3:31:05 PM) gordonmcdowell: oh nevermind...!!!
(3:32:32 PM) cybercerberus: man you guys are completely ON TRACK with all this new focus on standards
(3:32:53 PM) cybercerberus: NOW you're talking like a platform provider.
(3:34:09 PM) cybercerberus: APIs are a standard language for communicating actions, and microformats are a great standard way of exchanging data. Combine the two, and you're ready to rock and roll.
(3:35:03 PM) cybercerberus: be sure to publish XSDs for any microformats you guys make up. That'll allow people to build web services that use them.
(3:40:57 PM) cybercerberus: also notable: "To the user, the interface IS the application."
(3:54:52 PM) rachel@chat.cambrianhouse.com/Meebo: Sarah blue and JR
(4:01:54 PM) rachel@chat.cambrianhouse.com/Meebo: RHF - parker and marrone
(4:02:08 PM) techguy: RHF RHF RHF
(4:03:01 PM) cybercerberus: the new notification system in the Forums is totally awesome btw
(4:03:14 PM) cybercerberus: It completely re-invigorated my interest in posting in there
(4:03:28 PM) cybercerberus: the RSS stuff is great too, but to me it's all about notification so I can jump right in there
(4:03:35 PM) cybercerberus: In case you haven't noticed, I sorta do that :)
(4:03:57 PM) gordonmcdowell: they already knew what BTW means
(4:04:14 PM) gordonmcdowell: so you can keep using the abbreviation!
(4:04:17 PM) cybercerberus: I would hope so. :-P
(4:04:26 PM) cybercerberus: Did FWIW confuse you too Gord?
(4:05:12 PM) gordonmcdowell: FWIW...
(4:05:13 PM) gordonmcdowell: ?
(4:05:18 PM) techguy: I'm here
(4:05:22 PM) techguy: kind of
(4:05:23 PM) gordonmcdowell: of For What Its Worth
(4:05:24 PM) cybercerberus: For What It's Worth...I used that earlier...anyway
(4:05:26 PM) cybercerberus: yes
(4:05:29 PM) gordonmcdowell: some blackberry guy
(4:05:36 PM) cybercerberus: So the crowd just went nuts
(4:05:39 PM) cybercerberus: but I cannot see why
(4:05:45 PM) cybercerberus: I can't tell what's going on
(4:05:51 PM) gordonmcdowell: oh hit a page got
(4:05:54 PM) gordonmcdowell: server not found
(4:06:03 PM) cybercerberus: oops :)
(4:06:06 PM) gordonmcdowell: network trouble
(4:06:10 PM) gordonmcdowell: our cables are kinda
(4:06:14 PM) gordonmcdowell: winding around table legs
(4:06:28 PM) gordonmcdowell: "this internet sucks"
(4:06:53 PM) cybercerberus: Is that Parker?
(4:07:00 PM) gordonmcdowell: yes
(4:07:19 PM) cybercerberus: she did tell us
(4:07:23 PM) cybercerberus: But there were two names
(4:07:37 PM) cybercerberus: I'm just trying to figure out exactly who is who. Don't go blamin' Rachel now!
(4:08:41 PM) gordonmcdowell: blaming rachel is cool
(4:08:47 PM) cybercerberus: haha
(4:08:54 PM) rachel@chat.cambrianhouse.com/Meebo: whoa!
(4:11:01 PM) cybercerberus: Question: Is there a plan for getting RHF on the platform?
(4:11:10 PM) cybercerberus: Sorry if that's already been said and I missed it :(
(4:12:11 PM) cybercerberus: thanks :)
(4:19:21 PM) techguy: i agree...just use youtube...if you can do a video you can easily use youtube
(4:19:26 PM) cybercerberus: YES I completely agree
(4:19:45 PM) cybercerberus: YouTube is SO commonly used now it's basically second nature to most people
(4:19:56 PM) cybercerberus: plus they have the bandwidth, and the interface...the management....
(4:22:00 PM) cybercerberus: While you guys continue, I'm going to investigate whether YouTube has an API you can use externally
(4:22:06 PM) cybercerberus: techguy do you already know?
(4:22:06 PM) gordonmcdowell: thx
(4:22:39 PM) gordonmcdowell: whoa that's crazy nice work
(4:22:59 PM) techguy: that google map is nice
(4:23:25 PM) cybercerberus: http://www.youtube.com/dev_docs
(4:23:33 PM) cybercerberus: Looks like they have both XML-RPC and REST support
(4:23:47 PM) cybercerberus: but it looks like it's all about pulling existing videos, and info...not a posting interface
(4:24:00 PM) cybercerberus: so people would still have to upload through YouTube
(4:24:06 PM) blender: for uploading? or just consuming?
(4:24:11 PM) gordonmcdowell: that's impression i get too
(4:24:16 PM) gordonmcdowell: will check out deeper
(4:24:19 PM) blender: nm
(4:24:37 PM) blender: nm = nevermind gord :-P
(4:24:50 PM) techguy: fix the idea submission stats so I can be in the hall of fame too
(4:24:56 PM) cybercerberus: The thing is, keep in mind that YouTube also provides a recording mechanism. Many people don't even KNOW how to record and upload a video
(4:27:38 PM) gordonmcdowell: that's it guys! thanks for joining
(4:27:46 PM) cybercerberus: This was neat
(4:28:06 PM) cybercerberus: You should leave the chatroom onscreen
(4:28:13 PM) gordonmcdowell: ok
(4:28:26 PM) techguy: it is pretty cool
(4:28:35 PM) techguy: even if I had to cut in and out
(4:28:52 PM) cybercerberus: somebody's hungry haha
(4:28:54 PM) gordonmcdowell: that tables got to be occupied. i'll keep this window open but i got to step away and put projectors away
(4:29:10 PM) cybercerberus: ah bummer
(4:29:17 PM) techguy: Can i get my belly dance?
(4:29:21 PM) JT: ha ha ha ha
(4:29:22 PM) cybercerberus: not likely dude
(4:29:28 PM) cybercerberus: OH NO
(4:29:29 PM) gordonmcdowell: sorry, i'd really like it to be permanents but we need a tv not projector
(4:29:31 PM) cybercerberus: NOT THAT DAMNED LOOP
(4:29:33 PM) gordonmcdowell: HA HA HA
(4:29:39 PM) cybercerberus: YOU BASTARD!!!
(4:29:43 PM) techguy: lol
(4:29:50 PM) gordonmcdowell: i already had my headphone off off course
(4:29:52 PM) JT: next time, give em "The Hamster Dance" looped gord...
(4:29:57 PM) gordonmcdowell: k cleaning up stuff later dudes.
(4:30:04 PM) JT: err.. perhaps that's way too evil
(4:30:05 PM) gordonmcdowell: i got one more loop i never got to use
(4:30:07 PM) gordonmcdowell: ....
(4:30:19 PM) cybercerberus: I think you should just loop the IdeaWarz themesong
(4:30:29 PM) cybercerberus: :)
(4:30:36 PM) blender: later
(4:30:40 PM) cybercerberus: cya blender
(4:30:46 PM) blender: cya
(4:30:50 PM) blender left the room.
(4:31:05 PM) cybercerberus: oh man
(4:31:07 PM) cybercerberus: this is even worse
(4:31:26 PM) cybercerberus: !
(4:31:38 PM) JT: what is it?
(4:31:49 PM) cybercerberus: BLEEP BLEEP BLEEP
(4:31:49 PM) gordonmcdowell: bleep bleep bleep
(4:31:53 PM) cybercerberus: echoing
(4:32:07 PM) gordonmcdowell: k had to kill audio dunno how to kill room audio right now
(4:32:12 PM) cybercerberus: whew
(4:32:14 PM) cybercerberus: that's better
(4:32:16 PM) gordonmcdowell: K back in a bit!
(4:32:27 PM) gordonmcdowell: but it bugs me cause its like 24kbps of silence
(4:33:10 PM) cybercerberus: yeah I guess you should feed the annoying loop
(4:33:24 PM) cybercerberus: I'll just switch to the vid only feed
(4:33:37 PM) techguy: i just mute the audio
(4:33:40 PM) cybercerberus: techguy, next time we need to get more LC'ers in here
(4:33:49 PM) cybercerberus: I think they didn't know it was happening
(4:34:27 PM) cybercerberus: I should have posted the links into the LC. Mistake.
(4:34:49 PM) techguy: yeah...i think many work at this hour though...we're the most active during the day
(4:34:59 PM) techguy: today was a bad day for me
(4:35:07 PM) cybercerberus: Yeah I have to be very sneaky
(4:35:39 PM) techguy: i had 2 other appointments to deal with
(4:35:47 PM) techguy: there's time
(4:35:57 PM) cybercerberus: For me it wasn't TOO bad...because so many people bailed early to start their weekend
(4:36:07 PM) cybercerberus: so clowning around online didn't look too bad
(4:36:31 PM) cybercerberus: Overall though, I think this was really cool. I was chattin' from the MacBook to my right, and listening/watching on my PC in front of me
(4:37:24 PM) cybercerberus: Little bit of polish to the process, maybe get a better feed of the chat text into the view...I wonder if there's some way to feed the ACTUAL text into the video?
(4:37:29 PM) techguy: yeah...it was cool...i had the video/audio on my laptop and the rest on my dual monitors
(4:37:42 PM) cybercerberus: jeez we're total geeks hahah
(4:38:05 PM) techguy: i think they need one camera focused on the speaker...the other on the screens
(4:38:14 PM) cybercerberus: that'd be good
(4:38:26 PM) cybercerberus: Maybe with an option for a 3rd, with Gord runnin' around with it
(4:38:26 PM) JT: Yeah...
(4:38:31 PM) cybercerberus: like a handicam or something
(4:38:40 PM) JT: Could you guys see what we had on our projector alright?
(4:38:43 PM) cybercerberus: to get when people pipe up from the back of the room
(4:38:53 PM) cybercerberus: I could see what was on the projector only about half the time
(4:38:58 PM) cybercerberus: a lot of the time it was washed out bright
(4:39:06 PM) JT: Okay..
(4:39:49 PM) JT: But was that content given to you in a video feed? I'm pretty sure Gord said he had a feed for it, but it wasn't really high quality
(4:39:50 PM) cybercerberus: For me all the tech limitations were trumped though, by being able to "be there"
(4:40:05 PM) cybercerberus: no, there was no dedicated feed of projector stuff
(4:40:14 PM) cybercerberus: At least I don't think there was...
(4:40:32 PM) JT: Ahh, yeah.. Didn't think there was
(4:40:35 PM) cybercerberus: basically the "side on" views of the projected stuff I could see
(4:40:42 PM) cybercerberus: but the "direct" ones I could not
(4:40:46 PM) cybercerberus: too much reflection
(4:40:49 PM) JT: Yeah, I thought it was especially cool when you took off to look in to YouTube API stuff
(4:40:52 PM) JT: right on man!
(4:40:55 PM) cybercerberus: :)
(4:41:08 PM) cybercerberus: thats what it's all about
(4:41:23 PM) cybercerberus: I want to see a LOT more people involved from the outside though
(4:41:27 PM) cybercerberus: it could get really exciting
(4:41:34 PM) cybercerberus: techguy and I are kinda your beta testers
(4:41:41 PM) cybercerberus: but this could go to a crazy level
(4:44:24 PM) techguy: the screen was almost all washed out for me...there were parts of both screens, but not all of them
(4:45:03 PM) techguy: i think it should be a standard practice to ignore the chat room...and then address the chat questions at the end of the section
(4:45:45 PM) cybercerberus: probably, to avoid distraction
(4:46:01 PM) cybercerberus: Cuz I'd never pipe up so much while somebody was presenting if it was me sitting there
(4:46:22 PM) cybercerberus: at the same time, it gave it such a "connected" feel...
(4:46:35 PM) cybercerberus: you know, like it really made me feel INVOLVED
(4:47:39 PM) JT: I totally agree techguy on the ignore til end of section idea
(4:47:51 PM) JT: I was thinking that myself today
(4:48:15 PM) JT: Yeah, that's a good point cyber on feeling connected
(4:48:32 PM) cybercerberus: maybe theres some kind of compromise
(4:48:34 PM) cybercerberus: I dunno
(4:48:56 PM) cybercerberus: Look anything you guys do re: this is already like 100 miles (kilometers if you prefer) ahead of what anybody ELSE is doing
(4:49:00 PM) cybercerberus: so really you can't go too wrong :)
(4:49:05 PM) cybercerberus: even if you pull it back a bit
(4:49:26 PM) JT: maybe if we addressed questions/comments not by when the end of a section is reached, but just at some kind of more frequent regular intervals..
(4:49:39 PM) techguy: i just know I'd hate it if i were presenting
(4:49:42 PM) cybercerberus: maybe. Like "So any questions in the chat so far?"
(4:49:50 PM) JT: Well, just cause we're doing well doesn't mean we can't nail it 100x better than we already are.. :)
(4:50:01 PM) JT: Yeah.. exactly
(4:50:10 PM) cybercerberus: I'd be down with that
(4:50:10 PM) techguy: sure...the presenter says, any questions or comments from the chat?
(4:50:15 PM) cybercerberus: sounds like a plan
(4:50:18 PM) cybercerberus: :)
(4:50:19 PM) JT: indeed
(4:50:29 PM) JT: at the very least something to run by LC
(4:50:33 PM) techguy: and the updates from rachel about who is speaking and the topic were great
(4:50:51 PM) cybercerberus: yes, having a "text feed" to the chat was AWESOME
(4:51:01 PM) cybercerberus: that could even be taken to a higher level
(4:51:03 PM) cybercerberus: with links, etc.
(4:51:06 PM) JT: lol, I'll make sure she gets that message - she's not at her machine for the moment
(4:51:11 PM) techguy: links to the powerpoint?
(4:51:24 PM) cybercerberus: well or links to internal wiki pages or something
(4:51:55 PM) cybercerberus: Remember that one time when Gord made the IdeaWarz video with the split screen where there was "contextual" stuff happening while the video was going on?
(4:52:06 PM) JT: Hmm, that could be neat, though I'm having difficulty figuring how'd we coordinate something like that - afterall we don't spend a lot of time actually prepairing our presentations - as we're busy implementing stuff
(4:52:09 PM) cybercerberus: That was a bit of information overload for a video, but in an interactive setting, that would rule.
(4:52:14 PM) JT: but, maybe that's worth it
(4:52:26 PM) cybercerberus: Oh either way. We're just throwing stuff on the table right now :)
(4:52:33 PM) JT: Yeah, definitely..
(4:52:49 PM) JT: Ideas ideas ideas!!
(4:53:08 PM) techguy: and the 30 minutes Q and A time at the end of the demo days;-)
(4:53:12 PM) cybercerberus: I like this new mode of CH though. Conference calls and interactive presentations, lots of "live" stuff
(4:53:40 PM) cybercerberus: this is good stuff, progress
(4:54:30 PM) JT: Yeah, feels pretty cutting edge in a few ways too me
(4:54:34 PM) ***techguy wonders who JT is
(4:54:47 PM) JT: and of course, we've got some real work to do with regards to refining it all
(4:54:49 PM) cybercerberus: JT == Insight?
(4:54:53 PM) JT: nope
(4:54:55 PM) cybercerberus: hmm
(4:55:01 PM) JT: I haven't been THAT active in the community..
(4:55:12 PM) JT: Getting more involved though
(4:55:16 PM) techguy: is your name JT in the community?
(4:55:24 PM) JT: My community alias is Dawning
(4:55:28 PM) techguy: ok
(4:55:32 PM) cybercerberus: doesn't ring a bell
(4:55:35 PM) cybercerberus: no offense
(4:55:38 PM) JT: Yeah, none taken
(4:55:54 PM) JT: I started here about 6 weeks ago, as an intern
(4:56:04 PM) cybercerberus: ah! So what do you work on?
(4:56:10 PM) techguy: i commented on Rob only having 12 comments in the forums...and 2 were in one thread clarifying the previous post
(4:56:24 PM) cybercerberus: Hey Rob's stepping it up though
(4:56:30 PM) JT: Well, right now, helping with the CH.com refactoring.. specifically the idea explorer for the moment
(4:56:32 PM) cybercerberus: He had like NO posts until January
(4:57:00 PM) cybercerberus: cool. I will admit I'd still like to see an Idea Explorer game. Did anybody ever show you that?
(4:57:08 PM) cybercerberus: Or my Viking Goat voting game?
(4:57:08 PM) techguy: agreed...he was the CFO...but it just was ironic that he could be involved so little in the forum and he's charged to create the platform
(4:57:09 PM) JT: Yeah... this place is wicked insane.. soo much stuff going on every day...
(4:57:43 PM) JT: For me, it's taken a bit of a push to really notice the community - you know, being so focused just on learning how things work and so on..
(4:57:48 PM) cybercerberus: !
(4:58:00 PM) JT: But of course, we gotta know wtf we're making, hence community involvement
(4:58:24 PM) JT: So, I've been kicking that one up - though lately, I've been playing most on RHF
(4:58:30 PM) cybercerberus: I will go on record that I think every single person at CH should make an effort to notice the community. :)
(4:58:47 PM) JT: Trying to also brainstorm how to stream line communication on ch.com - I think the rss feeds will help a ton
(4:59:05 PM) cybercerberus: yup, all the feeds and in general "pushed" info, very good things
(4:59:06 PM) JT: Yeah, most definitely, that's a well known fact
(4:59:13 PM) cybercerberus: email notifications, feeds, you name it
(4:59:21 PM) JT: I have to admit, I think I just missed the boat on that at first..
(4:59:50 PM) techguy: JT: what have you been doing on RHF?
(5:00:01 PM) techguy: what type of skills do you have? what's your expertise?
(5:00:11 PM) cybercerberus: damn tg, you wanna resume? haha
(5:00:12 PM) JT: I was referring to getting familiarized with the community
(5:00:36 PM) JT: I also did a little work getting a unit testing framework for RHF going again - but I don't think we're gonna use that right now
(5:00:53 PM) JT: As for skills.. Well, I'd say mine are diverse...
(5:00:59 PM) cybercerberus: bummer. CH needs more unit testing in general
(5:01:00 PM) JT: I'm a comp sci & comp eng student..
(5:01:09 PM) cybercerberus: the recent GP debacle shows that
(5:01:26 PM) JT: My professional exp is all system administration - but I'm working hard at not doing that here, I'm here for software development
(5:01:36 PM) cybercerberus: PHP?
(5:01:40 PM) JT: Yeah
(5:01:46 PM) JT: Definitely some php
(5:01:51 PM) JT: which is what I'm doing now
(5:02:05 PM) cybercerberus: any Java in your toolbox?
(5:02:30 PM) JT: I never got to learn web dev in school though.. I've learned that playing with my own personal stuff and I from a summer job way back (but that was long ago and only html with a dash of CF)
(5:02:45 PM) JT: Yeah, a big chunk on my schooling was with Java
(5:02:52 PM) JT: though I very much love C
(5:03:00 PM) JT: but I don't expect to get to use that here
(5:03:01 PM) JT: lol
(5:03:01 PM) cybercerberus: Both better than PHP ;-P
(5:03:09 PM) JT: I wanna learn Python
(5:03:13 PM) cybercerberus: good cal
(5:03:15 PM) cybercerberus: and Ruby, dude
(5:03:21 PM) JT: I really respect how it forces code standards
(5:03:26 PM) JT: that's spectacular
(5:03:26 PM) cybercerberus: Actually I did some recent research about languages
(5:03:31 PM) demodrone left the room.
(5:03:40 PM) JT: I worry about php with regards to security
(5:03:44 PM) cybercerberus: and I'm thinkin the way to go is Ruby, Groovy, and Boo
(5:04:13 PM) cybercerberus: those 3 are the most advanced modern languages (Python's right in there, but to me Ruby and Python are too similar and I'd have to pick one or the other, so I'll go with Ruby)
(5:04:14 PM) JT: But I'm definitely not a strong enough coder to point out any holes or even solutions to them
(5:04:30 PM) cybercerberus: Well PHP isn't really meant for heavy lifting.
(5:04:35 PM) JT: Why do you pick Ruby over Python?
(5:04:46 PM) cybercerberus: I dunno. No real reason I guess.
(5:04:50 PM) JT: .. Okay..
(5:04:52 PM) cybercerberus: Sorry haha
(5:04:56 PM) JT: I don't know either especially well
(5:04:59 PM) JT: no worries dude
(5:05:00 PM) cybercerberus: I don't at all
(5:05:12 PM) cybercerberus: but Ruby has this recent emphasis in the industry
(5:05:13 PM) JT: I've been told you can compile python scripts in to binaries
(5:05:18 PM) JT: stand-alone bins
(5:05:19 PM) JT: I like that
(5:05:24 PM) JT: and it's portable
(5:05:25 PM) cybercerberus: Yeah you can use JRuby I think to create Java classes
(5:05:27 PM) JT: and easy
(5:05:29 PM) cybercerberus: same kinda thing
(5:05:35 PM) JT: I don't know jack on Ruby at this point
(5:05:42 PM) JT: Nice man
(5:05:51 PM) cybercerberus: Like I said, they're all pretty equivalent
(5:06:01 PM) JT: My friend does a lot of python stuff and he uses some library to link in c code
(5:06:05 PM) cybercerberus: There's Jython which I think will make Java binaries too
(5:06:08 PM) JT: so some things he can't do with py, he just writes c
(5:06:34 PM) JT: It's all very neat
(5:06:34 PM) cybercerberus: I'm a pure Java coder though, that's the long and short of it.
(5:07:01 PM) gordonmcdowell: hey people i gotta shut down the webcam feed to try get that MS LifeCam back up (like how it died 5 minutes in). so it'll be back up, or up and down. sorta lower priority until next thrus approaches. but always feel free to try tap in. and i see there's a lot of comments here i'll be reading 'em too
(5:07:26 PM) techguy: how many people use Python? I know tons who use Ruby and few who use python...is that just my personal experience though?
(5:13:20 PM) cybercerberus left the room.
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