Des Mann is a former Principal of Green Bay High School in Auckland New Zealand. Des and his partner Angela Bradbury sat down with Juliet Bonnay, teacher, counselor and artist to discuss what has led to a culture of bullying in New Zealand schools and society. This podcast was recorded and produced by Juliet Bonnay as part of the Waiheke Podcasting Project, an intiative of Waiheke Radio, with support from the Waiheke Community Board and Community Education at Waiheke High School.