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Author: Jason Louv
Keywords: magick, tantra, ultraculture
Publisher: Ultraculture International
Language: English
Book contributor: Genesis Breyer P-Orridge, Brion Gysin, Lalitanath, Shivanath, Peter-R. Koenig, Ira Cohen, Dave Lowe, Hans Plomp, Ganesh Baba, Johnny Templar, Mordant Carnival, Elijah, Joel Biroco, Prince Charming, Jhonn Balance
Collection: opensource
Creative Commons license: Attribution-Noncommercial-No Derivative Works 3.0
Reviewer:
SkimmerX -
Subject:
Very enjoyable, excellent, motivating even
I haven't read all of the articles yet, and a few I will likely only skim over as the practices are not mine and I don't understand them full. The ones I have read were great! Inspiring, motivatign, etc etc.
I especially liked reading about Dave Lowe's travels , as well as Ira Cohen's and Lalitanath's.
Black Mass was enjoyable is well, I am currently in the Millitary, and even before I constantly had thoughts about the war, why we are in it, what the real deal is, why all the hate, etc etc. Sometimes staying up all nigh researching until I was in tears over it. Now I "know" more but sadly can't say I understand any better!
This "journal" was well rounded. so many interesting things, full of treasure!
So I salute you Mr. Louv, there are still alot of damn fine beings on this planet! Thanks for giving me some hope!
Reviewer:
FuerzaNdoki -
Subject:
LOL
hipster "chaos magician" got burned trying to mess around with something he didn't respect, wasn't called to do, and never should have been involved with in the first place
yawn
Reviewer:
JasonLouv -
Subject:
Sigh
Y'all are boring me to tears. It's been two years and you still only have one card to play, racism, along with all this BS academic nonsense (and now racism towards "Westerners" whatever that means!). Gee, sorry I didn't check Wikipedia. Get a life.
Reviewer:
Jason Louv -
Subject:
And the Final Word
Dear Mordant,
Thank you very much for calling further attention to the *accurate* information about Voudon stated above by Shivanath and I. You have really done excellent work in service to the truth here. You really are a lightworker *pretending* to be pro-Voudon and I for one salute you for this uniquely clever strategy! Bravo Mordant!
I, of course, stand by my statements that you have so kindly linked above, and also thank you for the opportunity you have given me to be even *more clear* on Voudon this time around. Voudon is a system of practices which are brutally dangerous to the spiritual, mental and physical health of its practitioners and those around them. It — in the real world — has lead to serious trauma along the lines of schizophrenia, debilitating disease, suicide, murder, rape and the like, and these are not uncommon outcomes. I have seen the suffering it causes in the lives of those who become involved and I saw the suffering it caused in my life when I became involved. As a "spiritual tradition" it is bankrupt and I consider serious involvement in Voudon a fate worse than death.
This is an issue of spiritual health, not of race. Those offended by my views on Voudon have repeatedly played the race card instead of dealing with the issues. This is a time-honored technique for stopping intelligent discussion. It is juvenile and should be transparent to all reading this. Please note two things:
1. The people crying racism are *white Londoners*.
2. You can see for yourself in the post Mordant has linked (again casting light on the facts of the matter, my thanks again) the stack of positive things I have to say about the original Yoruban tradition of West Africa and the precision with which I separate the dark magick practices of Voudon from the broader, fuller Yoruban tradition — a tradition which is worthy of great respect, unlike the unilaterally negative and psychotoxic practices of Voudon.
Here is the bottom line. I have seen the human wreckage caused by Voudon, I have dozens of examples in which people have been seriously, cruelly, brutally hurt by it along broadly similar lines, and it will not stand. These practices Hurt People Horribly. They are hurting people in ways that people should not be hurt. Spiritual seekers growing like happy children in the universe deserve better than to have this poison lurking at the edge of the playground looking for ripe targets to pick off. Those who act as apologists for Voudon — including your "friends", who consistently tell the world of its perceived positive sides and never the reality — are liars and thieves of innocence. They can go and do Voudon all they like, but when they start in with false advertising — along the same lines as saying heroin is a great community builder because everybody can bond while they're shooting up together — then they have crossed the line and it will not be tolerated. It takes brave souls like yourself, Mordant, to continue to call attention to the other side of the story, and for that I salute you again.
It is hurting the children. And it will not do so on my watch. Those who stand by Voudon can do what they like in their own temples, but they will not have hooks in my work or in the coming generations of young spiritual practitioners. NO.
To those who are die-hard believers in Voudon, I do nothing but leave you to your own karma. To the young magicians, mystics and spiritual practitioners looking for accurate information, let my experience and my views stand, that they not have to go through the suffering that I did, or have their lives destroyed in the same way that so many who have worked with Voudon have.
Jason Louv
PS. But don't just take MY word for it... Here's a BBC documentary about Voudon.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2879228439949087697
If you want to get involved in Voudon, nobody's stopping you. But... well, you might want to watch this first. It says more than I ever could on the cold, harsh realities of the subject. Enjoy.
Reviewer:
Mordant Carnival -
Subject:
What a terrible disappointment.
My name is Mordant Carnival. I wrote one of the sections in this book--"The Man with the Tattered Smile." I have repeatedly and publicly asked J-Lo here to remove my work from his book. He's chosen to ignore all my requests.
I wish to publicly disassociate myself from the Ultraculture project and all those still involved. This is due to certain odious and defamatory comments made by one of the other contributors in this thread on the UC Google group.
I quote:
"The basic mechanism: displacement of an individual human consciousness from their body and temporary replacement with a parasitic life-force-harvesting energy - this kind of psychic body prostitution in payment for magical favors - is inherently problematic."
"*At best* Voodoo is a hell-realm religion - created in the hells of slavery - and it's gods are demon-gods as should be pretty apparent at even a cursory inspection."
"Voodoo is horrifically bad shit, unclean in every axis and dimension, has no redeeming features, and should have died out when slavery ended. It is, in fact, in my considered opinion, the last manacle of those times locked around the spirits of people who practice it, black and white and other alike."
I was repulsed by this unfounded, bigoted and racist attack on the religion of Vodoun. I hoped that Jason Louv would be as shocked and disgusted as I was. Instead, he chose to affirm and support those comments, and has even reiterated and expanded upon the original defamation in this thread.
I cannot in good conscience be associated with this project anymore or with the people involved. I'm sickened and appalled.
Further, I'm very disappointed that some people have continued to involve themselves with the Ultraculture brand in spite of the deeply bigoted and also completely irrational nature of these comments. I can only assume that these individuals are profoundly ignorant and happy to remain that way, being so addicted to conflict they no longer care who or what they're supporting.
This is a sad and ugly business.
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