This podcast is a skype recording from yesterday's presentation at the 2006 Hawaii Library Association titled, "Creativity and Updating Mindware: Hardware and software are not holding us back!" During the session Jen Wagner (from southern California) and Graham Wegner (from Adelaide, South Australia) skyped in to share their ideas about teaching beyond the textbook in the classroom of the 21st Century. They also discussed how they are continuing to learn from other educators about web 2.0 technologies and teaching methods, and their perceptions of the recent K-12 Online Conference.