1 00:00:00,51 --> 00:00:04,41 Call order the Fortuna city council on the Fortuna redevelopment agencies Monday 2 00:00:04,42 --> 00:00:10,74 June twentieth two thousand and eleven meeting. Please stand for the flag salute 3 00:00:10,74 --> 00:00:16,30 . It's 4 00:00:16,30 --> 00:00:22,89 . Just what it 5 00:00:22,89 --> 00:00:26,67 . Is of all. This 6 00:00:26,67 --> 00:00:33,44 . Roll 7 00:00:33,45 --> 00:00:39,04 call Cleveland Council Member going to. Council member along council member low-Z. 8 00:00:39,08 --> 00:00:44,77 Hear their protests and hear their style here. 9 00:00:45,83 --> 00:00:47,06 Second on the agenda is going to be 10 00:00:47,07 --> 00:00:52,91 a presentation water and sewer bill process presented by our assistant city manager 11 00:00:52,95 --> 00:00:59,84 Nicholson an account clerk three Henry. Thank you mayor and members of the council 12 00:00:59,85 --> 00:01:01,52 we appreciate the staff appreciates 13 00:01:01,53 --> 00:01:04,53 a chance to come here and explain this process to you because there have been some 14 00:01:04,54 --> 00:01:05,96 questions about it recently 15 00:01:05,96 --> 00:01:13,49 . 16 00:01:19,26 --> 00:01:24,94 You know me Rachel Henry is our account clerk three and she does most of the work 17 00:01:24,95 --> 00:01:31,36 on the utility billing process so she's going to help as we go through 18 00:01:31,37 --> 00:01:37,09 a typical procedure from the bill to when it would be shut off if nothing were done 19 00:01:37,13 --> 00:01:43,97 to stop that and. I'd like to ask if we could leave part of the lights on so that 20 00:01:43,98 --> 00:01:48,06 you'll be able to see the calendars we have we have both low tech and high tech for 21 00:01:48,07 --> 00:01:53,41 you tonight but I think the visual will be helpful in understanding. The process 22 00:01:53,42 --> 00:01:59,26 and the notices that we're providing. Can I get some of those lights turned back on 23 00:01:59,27 --> 00:01:59,61 John. 24 00:02:10,61 --> 00:02:14,38 We can I think we can can you still see that let's go ahead on it then 25 00:02:14,38 --> 00:02:20,72 . 26 00:02:25,66 --> 00:02:29,56 As you all know the city afford to his mission is to be worthy of the public trust 27 00:02:29,57 --> 00:02:33,80 by providing timely efficient dependable and well planned services to the community 28 00:02:33,80 --> 00:02:39,02 . We've developed a utility billing procedure that we that provides 29 00:02:39,03 --> 00:02:43,03 a standardized process for us that allows the city to carry out its mission 30 00:02:43,04 --> 00:02:47,67 statement and guarantees fair and equitable treatment for all of our customers and 31 00:02:47,68 --> 00:02:50,61 we're going to go through that process here tonight from the time 32 00:02:50,62 --> 00:02:54,71 a bill goes out until the shut off period. And 33 00:02:54,72 --> 00:02:58,76 a typical billing or typical billing procedure the bill goes out on the first of 34 00:02:58,77 --> 00:03:01,17 month a we're going to use month a B. And C. 35 00:03:01,17 --> 00:03:04,88 . That bill is due on the thirtieth of month 36 00:03:04,89 --> 00:03:11,79 a this is the water sewer bill typical water sewer bill this one would 37 00:03:11,80 --> 00:03:18,48 have been for May thirtieth that would have gone out on June first I'm sorry on May 38 00:03:18,49 --> 00:03:22,99 first and it shows here that it is due on May thirtieth that shown here and I'm 39 00:03:23,00 --> 00:03:29,92 here this was this would be the May first bill. And. If the bill for that 40 00:03:29,93 --> 00:03:35,59 month A is not paid by the thirtieth of month day the following month's bill for 41 00:03:35,60 --> 00:03:36,42 month B. 42 00:03:36,64 --> 00:03:42,92 Will include the past two amount and the current amount. Here you can see the 43 00:03:42,93 --> 00:03:48,60 previous balance right there that previous balance is now past due it was due on 44 00:03:48,61 --> 00:03:50,28 the thirtieth and there is also 45 00:03:50,29 --> 00:03:55,51 a current bill that is due by the thirtieth of the month now as you can already 46 00:03:55,52 --> 00:03:57,28 tell between month day month B. 47 00:03:57,29 --> 00:03:59,38 And the cross over here it's 48 00:03:59,39 --> 00:04:03,85 a little bit complicated but hang in there with me and you can ask the questions at 49 00:04:03,86 --> 00:04:06,82 the end I think by the time we get this all up here it's going to be 50 00:04:06,83 --> 00:04:13,57 a little clearer for everybody. If the past due amount against zero for 51 00:04:13,58 --> 00:04:16,68 month A is not paid by the eleventh of month be 52 00:04:17,17 --> 00:04:21,91 a red and white reminder notices through the mail in an armful of it's not 53 00:04:21,92 --> 00:04:26,62 a postcard this is the reminder notice this is the front of the reminder notice it 54 00:04:26,63 --> 00:04:31,19 says has your water bill been overlooked your account is overdue your payment is 55 00:04:31,20 --> 00:04:37,59 late and then on the reverse side it goes over the procedure where they're letting 56 00:04:37,60 --> 00:04:38,68 them know that they have 57 00:04:38,69 --> 00:04:43,86 a past due bill that they are in danger of you having their service disconnected 58 00:04:43,87 --> 00:04:46,83 discontinued. And then gives them 59 00:04:46,84 --> 00:04:53,30 a date of the twenty fifth by which time they need to get this bill paid. This 60 00:04:53,31 --> 00:04:58,37 would be the. And then it gives them the number here what they need to do if they 61 00:04:58,38 --> 00:05:02,26 have any questions this is also telling them that if they don't get this bill paid 62 00:05:02,27 --> 00:05:05,30 on time that they're looking at a late penalty and 63 00:05:05,31 --> 00:05:11,39 a reconnect fee. Here's where we get into the small print 64 00:05:11,40 --> 00:05:15,72 a little bit if the past two amount for Monday is still not paid by the twenty 65 00:05:15,73 --> 00:05:21,02 fifth of month be on the twenty sixth of month be the finance department runs an 66 00:05:21,03 --> 00:05:23,42 in-house delinquent list and it's 67 00:05:23,52 --> 00:05:28,16 a ten percent late fee is added to the past two amount for month A and I'd like 68 00:05:28,17 --> 00:05:30,61 Rachel to expand on this 69 00:05:30,62 --> 00:05:35,90 a little bit with our calendar. On occasion we have the twenty fifth might fall on 70 00:05:35,91 --> 00:05:38,09 a weekend in this case for 71 00:05:38,11 --> 00:05:43,11 a month be it does we will allow the customer the full business day on the twenty 72 00:05:43,12 --> 00:05:47,95 sixth to bring that their payment to avoid the late penalty so we actually won't 73 00:05:47,100 --> 00:05:51,95 run that list and apply late fees and tell the next business day which in our 74 00:05:51,97 --> 00:05:58,36 example would be twenty seven. And I just wanted to show you that because we do try 75 00:05:58,37 --> 00:06:02,32 and do everything in the customer's favor we're never going to penalize anybody for 76 00:06:02,33 --> 00:06:04,42 a duty falling on a weekend or 77 00:06:04,43 --> 00:06:09,08 a holiday so the procedures that we're giving you and the dates are typical but 78 00:06:09,12 --> 00:06:14,74 they they can sometimes swing in the customer's favor OK here we go on the first 79 00:06:14,75 --> 00:06:19,53 Wednesday following the twenty six of the month the process for the handling the 80 00:06:19,54 --> 00:06:23,42 yellow door hangers begins and this process is usually completed within 81 00:06:23,43 --> 00:06:25,31 a couple days by the time 82 00:06:25,32 --> 00:06:29,92 a customer receives this door notice door hanger the account is past due for 83 00:06:29,93 --> 00:06:32,13 a month day and month B. 84 00:06:32,17 --> 00:06:36,53 Will be due in a couple of days the door hanger is only for 85 00:06:36,54 --> 00:06:38,47 a month they were only tracking month 86 00:06:38,51 --> 00:06:45,25 a here doing anything on their reach Oh no. On the first of 87 00:06:45,26 --> 00:06:50,95 month see another bill will go out this is per month see which is due on the 88 00:06:50,96 --> 00:06:55,13 thirtieth of month see but this bill includes the past two amount for a month 89 00:06:55,17 --> 00:06:59,73 a Including a late fee the past two amount for month B. 90 00:07:00,56 --> 00:07:02,44 And the current amount due for month C. 91 00:07:03,30 --> 00:07:08,04 And part of what we're trying to show you is the number of communications the city 92 00:07:08,05 --> 00:07:15,02 makes with the customers before the shut off happens. This example to one month 93 00:07:15,03 --> 00:07:20,24 see on occasion it's our goal to get our bills out on Earth as close to the first 94 00:07:20,25 --> 00:07:22,83 as possible obviously the first on 95 00:07:22,84 --> 00:07:28,04 a Saturday in Muncie so we mailed our bills out on Monday the third. 96 00:07:29,66 --> 00:07:31,43 This is a door hanger or part of 97 00:07:31,44 --> 00:07:36,28 a door hanger that goes out now these are all handwritten and hand delivered by the 98 00:07:36,29 --> 00:07:38,61 utility crew you'll notice this has 99 00:07:38,62 --> 00:07:44,89 a shut off date in this case this one is the fifth of month see. It's marked that 100 00:07:44,90 --> 00:07:51,08 it's being shut off for nonpayment of an account amount due and in this space it 101 00:07:51,09 --> 00:07:56,100 would show the past to amount and any late fees that are due. It also importantly 102 00:07:57,29 --> 00:08:02,04 explains to the people that payment arrangements must be made by ten A.M. 103 00:08:02,08 --> 00:08:07,00 Of the shut off date or reconnection fee will apply this ten A.M. 104 00:08:07,01 --> 00:08:11,25 Is an important time and there's a reason for it I'm going to explain it here in 105 00:08:11,26 --> 00:08:16,74 a minute so keep that in mind that that's on there it also shows them that they can 106 00:08:16,75 --> 00:08:21,93 call again to make payment arrangements if they need to and the number for them to 107 00:08:21,94 --> 00:08:26,98 call. 108 00:08:29,95 --> 00:08:34,92 Right it is filled in I didn't put that number in thank you my clock card is our 109 00:08:34,93 --> 00:08:39,83 utilities utility superintendent and he's here for backup too depending on the 110 00:08:39,84 --> 00:08:44,20 questions that come in about what they're doing out in the field. All right back to 111 00:08:44,22 --> 00:08:49,04 the procedure if the bill for month A is still not paid in the customer has not 112 00:08:49,04 --> 00:08:53,68 contacted the poignance department and made appropriate payment arrangements on the 113 00:08:53,70 --> 00:08:58,88 second Wednesday following the twenty six on the first Wednesday the door hangers 114 00:08:58,88 --> 00:09:03,82 went out on the second Wednesday following the twenty sixth of month be the surface 115 00:09:03,86 --> 00:09:06,89 is considered to be disconnected as of ten A.M. 116 00:09:07,74 --> 00:09:11,11 The disconnect time is always ten A.M. 117 00:09:11,33 --> 00:09:17,72 Regardless of when the water is physically turned off. This is 118 00:09:17,73 --> 00:09:24,64 because we could be disconnecting twenty twenty five services and there is no way 119 00:09:24,65 --> 00:09:31,56 for us to disconnect simultaneously twenty five services all at the same time so 120 00:09:31,57 --> 00:09:35,99 that time is established so that if someone services turned off it ten o'clock or 121 00:09:35,100 --> 00:09:41,92 someone services turned up at twelve o'clock there's there's no advantage to them 122 00:09:41,96 --> 00:09:48,51 it's the ten o'clock you have to have your bill paid by been. Otherwise it's going 123 00:09:48,52 --> 00:09:51,51 to be considered disconnected that's the time. 124 00:09:56,53 --> 00:10:00,74 Despite the rumor city crews do not go out and turn the water off and then turn it 125 00:10:00,75 --> 00:10:05,81 right back on at the same time. There may be instances where 126 00:10:05,85 --> 00:10:12,78 a customer is inside of City Hall paying their bill on shut off day and they may be 127 00:10:12,79 --> 00:10:19,55 in here at ten thirty or eleven o'clock that water has been concerned that service 128 00:10:19,56 --> 00:10:24,83 is considered disconnected and they are going to be responsible for the reconnect 129 00:10:25,13 --> 00:10:31,34 even if their water wasn't actually turned off in some cases we cannot call back 130 00:10:31,35 --> 00:10:36,26 the utility crew in time to get the water turned back on so it may never actually 131 00:10:36,27 --> 00:10:42,75 be turned off but once they reach that deadline of ten AM That's it after four 132 00:10:42,76 --> 00:10:48,12 notices at ten am there they're considered disconnected. 133 00:10:49,92 --> 00:10:53,40 As of ten am The service is considered disconnected and customers must pay 134 00:10:53,41 --> 00:10:58,23 a reconnect fee of seventy five dollars plus the entire past due amount of their 135 00:10:58,24 --> 00:11:03,96 bill including the late fee if the customer shut off more than once the subsequent 136 00:11:03,98 --> 00:11:09,12 we connect he is increased to one hundred dollars if a customer did not pay 137 00:11:09,13 --> 00:11:12,74 a deposit to establish service or paid 138 00:11:12,78 --> 00:11:17,02 a deposit of less than one hundred fifty dollars and their water showed up more 139 00:11:17,03 --> 00:11:20,41 than two times within two years they will also need to pay 140 00:11:20,42 --> 00:11:25,23 a deposit of up to one hundred fifty dollars and I'd like Rachel to explain 141 00:11:25,24 --> 00:11:29,92 a little bit about the deposit. All new service requires one hundred twenty five 142 00:11:29,94 --> 00:11:33,72 dollars to posit. We hold that deposit for 143 00:11:33,72 --> 00:11:36,76 a year if you have good standing with the city after 144 00:11:36,76 --> 00:11:42,21 a year it's refunded to your account. And someone is shut off more than twice in 145 00:11:42,22 --> 00:11:46,39 two years we then consider them a credit risk we hold the deposit as 146 00:11:46,40 --> 00:11:52,83 a reserve I mean if it they move or what have you we don't want to be left holding 147 00:11:53,10 --> 00:11:55,08 all those months past due without some sort of 148 00:11:55,08 --> 00:12:01,24 a deposit on their account. What this does is it provides a little bit of 149 00:12:01,25 --> 00:12:07,99 a cushion if they do leave town or. Some other way do not 150 00:12:08,19 --> 00:12:14,74 pay their bill because the water service that we provide has to be paid for by 151 00:12:14,75 --> 00:12:19,98 someone and that deposit allows us to pull that money from that otherwise it's 152 00:12:19,99 --> 00:12:24,73 going to be paid by other customers because it costs the city so much to put that 153 00:12:24,74 --> 00:12:29,60 water out there so the deposit helps to cover that once they have established 154 00:12:29,61 --> 00:12:36,56 a good credit they can get the deposit back. So to summarize in prior 155 00:12:36,57 --> 00:12:42,00 to shut off by the time customers water is disconnected for nonpayment of month 156 00:12:42,04 --> 00:12:48,53 a it is Month see and the customer has received at least the following 157 00:12:49,08 --> 00:12:55,92 a bill for month. A bill for month to be. In some cases they 158 00:12:55,93 --> 00:12:59,35 will have received a bill for month see they will have received 159 00:12:59,36 --> 00:13:03,58 a reminder notice for month a and they will receive received 160 00:13:03,59 --> 00:13:09,10 a door hanger so in any instance there's at least four communications from the city 161 00:13:09,98 --> 00:13:16,80 before water is shut off. Also in addition to that 162 00:13:17,01 --> 00:13:20,39 following receipt of the door hanger the customer still has 163 00:13:20,40 --> 00:13:24,96 a week after that to either pay the bill or make payment arrangements. 164 00:13:29,78 --> 00:13:34,04 Customers end up having at least sixty to seventy five days from receipt of their 165 00:13:34,32 --> 00:13:37,92 bill to pay the bill to make payment or to make payment arrangements in order to 166 00:13:37,93 --> 00:13:42,46 avoid the shut up prior to shut off almost three months of past the customer has 167 00:13:42,47 --> 00:13:46,38 received at least two bills at least one reminder notice and 168 00:13:46,39 --> 00:13:50,87 a door hanger customers have one week after receipt of the door hanger to pay the 169 00:13:50,88 --> 00:13:56,94 past due amount or make payment arrangements at any time up until ten am 170 00:13:56,98 --> 00:14:01,80 a shut off day the customer can either pay the past due bill or make appropriate 171 00:14:01,81 --> 00:14:06,95 payment arrangements to avoid service interruption and reconnect. 172 00:14:09,30 --> 00:14:13,93 We actually end up doing very few shutoffs per month we send out we have forty four 173 00:14:13,94 --> 00:14:19,57 hundred customers. Of those customers the city hand rights and handle livers 174 00:14:19,61 --> 00:14:25,97 approximately two hundred door hangers per month of those two hundred door hangers 175 00:14:25,98 --> 00:14:31,01 only twenty to twenty two in an average month actually have their service 176 00:14:31,02 --> 00:14:36,00 disconnected this is less than one half of one percent of the total amount of our 177 00:14:36,01 --> 00:14:42,78 customers the goal for this procedure is to make 178 00:14:42,79 --> 00:14:47,80 sure that everyone is treated the same that they're treated fairly and equitably 179 00:14:48,58 --> 00:14:52,84 the city's billing procedure is designed so all customers receive the exact same 180 00:14:52,85 --> 00:14:56,28 due process by not making exceptions on 181 00:14:56,29 --> 00:15:02,58 a case by case basis everyone is treated fairly and equitably. Staff is also not 182 00:15:02,59 --> 00:15:02,83 put in 183 00:15:02,84 --> 00:15:09,71 a position of having to make special exceptions for any one customer. 184 00:15:11,11 --> 00:15:16,55 That's in that show we would be glad to answer your questions if you have any 185 00:15:16,55 --> 00:15:23,33 . Thank you Rachael. I have many questions 186 00:15:23,37 --> 00:15:28,93 now but if they're out of town at some point during the whole process when the door 187 00:15:28,94 --> 00:15:29,93 here goes out. 188 00:15:37,64 --> 00:15:41,61 I think they should have made arrangements beforehand just like they might have to 189 00:15:41,62 --> 00:15:46,11 do with their mail or their newspaper However if they called the office because 190 00:15:46,12 --> 00:15:51,81 they suddenly realized. We would you know we would try to make arrangements but 191 00:15:51,82 --> 00:15:58,59 we're talking seventy five days that they'd have to do this you know even if before 192 00:15:58,60 --> 00:16:04,75 the door hanger they've already received three other notices at least I think I 193 00:16:04,76 --> 00:16:07,63 think in some instances if somebody was actually going to leave for three four 194 00:16:07,64 --> 00:16:11,74 months it's actually cost effective to actually request the city to shut the water 195 00:16:11,75 --> 00:16:16,42 off padlock it in and pay reconnection fee. And it may save 196 00:16:16,43 --> 00:16:20,05 a lot of money just by doing that but that's not very many people in the city but 197 00:16:20,35 --> 00:16:25,18 that's the way to jumble numbers and actually be cost conservative on part of the 198 00:16:25,19 --> 00:16:30,32 consumer what I believe in Rachel you can correct me if I'm wrong is that most 199 00:16:30,33 --> 00:16:33,00 people who know that they're going to be travelling for 200 00:16:33,01 --> 00:16:38,77 a while will prepay their bills we also don't require if you have 201 00:16:38,79 --> 00:16:42,51 a customer say you you want to stop your service for 202 00:16:42,52 --> 00:16:45,60 a couple months we don't require you to pay reconnect fee will actually shut your 203 00:16:45,61 --> 00:16:50,85 service off and then when you come back you can have it turned back on we've had we 204 00:16:50,86 --> 00:16:52,06 have people that go out of town 205 00:16:52,57 --> 00:16:58,19 a lot of times and those typically aren't the people that that get shut off I do 206 00:16:58,19 --> 00:17:02,15 want to add one thing about the payment arrangements it's important to know that in 207 00:17:02,17 --> 00:17:06,37 staying with treating everyone the same we allow people to make payment 208 00:17:06,39 --> 00:17:10,75 arrangements up to one week passion off so the following Wednesday is the cut off 209 00:17:10,76 --> 00:17:13,90 and they are still treated the same it's they've they've received the door hanger 210 00:17:13,90 --> 00:17:17,75 it's still the same but they have to call the office by ten am or come in and talk 211 00:17:17,76 --> 00:17:22,29 to us to make that arrangement so when you're talking payment arrangements it's 212 00:17:22,30 --> 00:17:22,76 really only 213 00:17:22,77 --> 00:17:28,92 a one week censors. It begins on the first day that the bill goes out that we're 214 00:17:28,93 --> 00:17:31,89 willing to help them so the bill is 215 00:17:31,90 --> 00:17:35,29 a lot less on the first day that the bill goes out than after they've let it 216 00:17:35,30 --> 00:17:39,91 accumulate for three months so we're always willing to talk to them about payment 217 00:17:39,92 --> 00:17:46,34 arrangements. You know our yearly budget 218 00:17:46,84 --> 00:17:53,25 that we approve there is. A space that recognizes bad 219 00:17:53,30 --> 00:17:58,51 debt for water and bad debt for sewer it's not just 220 00:17:58,52 --> 00:18:02,63 a couple thousand dollars I think it's fifteen thousand dollars twelve thousand 221 00:18:02,64 --> 00:18:09,22 dollars that we never collect you know we are making an effort to be fair and 222 00:18:09,23 --> 00:18:15,13 equitable we still have that hardship received by us as 223 00:18:15,15 --> 00:18:19,27 a negative which unfortunately gets passed on to all the other rate payers that are 224 00:18:19,29 --> 00:18:25,95 honest in doing the right thing. You know just for clarification then 225 00:18:25,95 --> 00:18:32,58 . The rate payer is behind. Actually two full months 226 00:18:33,15 --> 00:18:39,49 going into the third month. So they're not actually behind three full months they 227 00:18:39,50 --> 00:18:44,65 wouldn't be behind three months until the end of months Correct correct and that's 228 00:18:44,66 --> 00:18:49,44 why what we were trying to track today is the bill for month 229 00:18:49,48 --> 00:18:55,04 a through shut off because they are they start overlapping you know if we started 230 00:18:55,05 --> 00:18:57,67 with month to be would be into month to D. 231 00:18:58,22 --> 00:19:02,67 This is our citizens being told that they have three months before their water gets 232 00:19:02,68 --> 00:19:08,88 turned off no no they're receiving these notices that give them specific dates 233 00:19:09,46 --> 00:19:13,62 we're not saying at the beginning it says when you get your bill it's due by the 234 00:19:13,63 --> 00:19:19,45 thirtieth It doesn't say you have three months to pay this bill as you saw on the 235 00:19:20,09 --> 00:19:21,42 the reminder notice it was 236 00:19:21,43 --> 00:19:28,32 a specific date of the twenty fifth. And then with the door hangers it falls 237 00:19:28,33 --> 00:19:29,43 to Wednesdays which is 238 00:19:29,44 --> 00:19:34,60 a little bit confusing but that's the day that those things happen so when there's 239 00:19:34,61 --> 00:19:36,24 a door hanger it's got 240 00:19:36,25 --> 00:19:42,04 a specific date on it so we're always giving the people specific dates OK I think 241 00:19:42,05 --> 00:19:47,20 we have to be careful I There have been people to tell me that they've been advised 242 00:19:47,21 --> 00:19:51,21 that they would not have their water turned off until after three four months of 243 00:19:51,22 --> 00:19:55,46 not not pay and that's from what I'm seeing here that's not the case from what 244 00:19:55,47 --> 00:19:59,65 you're telling us that's not the case so I think that the city has to be very 245 00:19:59,66 --> 00:20:01,16 careful that we're not putting out 246 00:20:01,44 --> 00:20:06,24 a three month period that they have to pay their water before it gets shut off when 247 00:20:06,25 --> 00:20:11,69 in fact it will be shut off before the end of three months you have seen the exact 248 00:20:11,70 --> 00:20:18,00 information that we're communicating to our customers that's what they get from us 249 00:20:18,06 --> 00:20:21,24 with dates on them but. Thank you 250 00:20:21,24 --> 00:20:26,62 . 251 00:20:28,31 --> 00:20:34,94 Thank you very much. Everybody was listening Yes OK 252 00:20:34,94 --> 00:20:41,61 . We can. Move you know on the third item on the agenda is oral 253 00:20:41,61 --> 00:20:45,70 comments from the public members of the public may be heard on any item of interest 254 00:20:45,71 --> 00:20:50,43 not on the public meeting agenda speakers address in the council or board will be 255 00:20:50,45 --> 00:20:55,35 limited to three minutes per speaker comments concerning the Consent Calendar may 256 00:20:55,36 --> 00:21:00,64 be heard at this time be advised that byelaw the city council and Redevelopment 257 00:21:00,65 --> 00:21:05,03 Agency Board can only deliberate and take action on items that are included on the 258 00:21:05,04 --> 00:21:10,45 agenda so at this time is anyone from the public that would like to address the 259 00:21:10,47 --> 00:21:17,27 council come up to them to microphones. 260 00:21:20,39 --> 00:21:26,91 The name is Gary Kramer I live at the end of the hill side. I'm here because I 261 00:21:27,85 --> 00:21:32,58 am sure that eventually someone is going to be. Injured or killed due to the 262 00:21:32,59 --> 00:21:38,26 conditions of the street it's in a forested area approximately 263 00:21:38,27 --> 00:21:45,13 a mile long and rises up to an elevation of about two hundred feet besides cars and 264 00:21:45,14 --> 00:21:46,56 trucks many people use 265 00:21:46,57 --> 00:21:52,87 a street for walking jogging riding bicycles in the horse's traffic using the road 266 00:21:52,88 --> 00:21:58,31 is increasing in volume and moving faster in the future with more development the 267 00:21:58,32 --> 00:22:04,74 problem will multiply and surely get worse there are also blind curve that the 268 00:22:05,24 --> 00:22:11,78 at the bottom with no sidewalks gutters or curbs on either side of it I believe 269 00:22:11,79 --> 00:22:18,66 this is against the law now but not at the time hillside developed recently 270 00:22:18,67 --> 00:22:24,59 there has been too much floods blocking the road and few years ago a three fell on 271 00:22:24,60 --> 00:22:31,39 a moving truck and injured the driver most dangerously as the road angles up there 272 00:22:31,40 --> 00:22:36,53 are at least two blind spots created by roller coaster type dips in the road 273 00:22:37,34 --> 00:22:42,58 creating blind spots for the drivers and pedestrians coming in opposite directions 274 00:22:42,58 --> 00:22:48,95 . Every time I use the road I hold my breath no one is coming up the other side 275 00:22:48,96 --> 00:22:54,82 when we meet with the thing especially when somebody is riding my rear and wanting 276 00:22:54,83 --> 00:23:01,50 to go faster anyway I know you can't do anything about it now 277 00:23:01,51 --> 00:23:07,37 but maybe you could fix the potholes. Thank you 278 00:23:07,37 --> 00:23:14,28 . Mr 279 00:23:14,29 --> 00:23:19,79 Mayor and my fellow council people my name is Dean Glaus or as most viewers know in 280 00:23:19,80 --> 00:23:22,36 home. Tonight I have 281 00:23:22,68 --> 00:23:26,51 a mission of two things Number one is informational and the second is to introduce 282 00:23:26,52 --> 00:23:32,32 somebody very very important that lives here in the city the first aspect I am 283 00:23:32,33 --> 00:23:38,66 commander of post ninety six of the AMVETS of California. Most members know that 284 00:23:38,98 --> 00:23:39,94 the V.F.W. 285 00:23:40,13 --> 00:23:44,81 Veterans of foreign leagues exists for the war's exists in the American Legion 286 00:23:44,82 --> 00:23:51,17 exist each of those. Service Organizations have certain Mandy's to require 287 00:23:51,17 --> 00:23:56,59 . Specific involvements during a war time if you are 288 00:23:56,60 --> 00:24:02,94 a veteran of Foreign War you have to be set foot on foreign land while at war time 289 00:24:02,98 --> 00:24:08,96 for American Legion. Is still wartime involvements which is World War two Korea 290 00:24:09,00 --> 00:24:15,92 Vietnam. But you didn't set foot on foreign soil there is another organization 291 00:24:15,93 --> 00:24:18,50 that started in one nine hundred forty S. 292 00:24:19,13 --> 00:24:25,14 Which sort of goes on seeing and I am representing that tonight AMVETS of America 293 00:24:25,86 --> 00:24:32,33 there are fifty different states that are call departments. Rather than saying I am 294 00:24:32,34 --> 00:24:38,45 going to California it's called AMVETS California. It's 295 00:24:38,46 --> 00:24:44,39 a fantastic organization it doesn't have any other mandates than requiring a D.D. 296 00:24:44,40 --> 00:24:50,64 To fourteen honorable discharge we also have members that belong to V.F.W. 297 00:24:50,78 --> 00:24:57,23 And American Legion to embrace what bets can do AMVETS as 298 00:24:57,24 --> 00:25:03,28 dedicated its whole entire organization to doing what is necessary for the good of 299 00:25:03,29 --> 00:25:10,10 the veteran. Whether it be physical or mental. Psychological 300 00:25:10,14 --> 00:25:16,52 whatever we will go to any extent that is legally possible. For representation and 301 00:25:16,53 --> 00:25:23,05 finding them help. I am commander of post now you six I just got elected I feel 302 00:25:23,06 --> 00:25:27,83 that's really a on our boat position to do as an introduction for 303 00:25:27,99 --> 00:25:34,88 a gentleman who has lived in Fortuna for decades he has involved himself with. 304 00:25:34,88 --> 00:25:35,83 V.F.W. 305 00:25:36,26 --> 00:25:42,15 And American Legion but predominately for Veterans of Foreign Wars. As Commander 306 00:25:42,63 --> 00:25:49,42 district commander. Eight years ago nine years ago he discovered that vets 307 00:25:49,43 --> 00:25:55,30 was another organization that had more drive and more to offer to the veterans that 308 00:25:55,31 --> 00:26:01,04 live in the United States as well as California tonight I am truly honored to 309 00:26:01,05 --> 00:26:06,64 introduce the commander of AMVETS of the state of California jury Greer 310 00:26:06,64 --> 00:26:11,63 . 311 00:26:14,77 --> 00:26:20,21 Thank you Commander. It's my pleasure to be here this evening again want to have me 312 00:26:20,22 --> 00:26:24,71 come down enter deuced myself most of you know me I've been around Europe in your 313 00:26:24,72 --> 00:26:30,41 council meetings before. I was involved in putting the flagpole in front of the 314 00:26:30,42 --> 00:26:32,46 veterans all over here and do 315 00:26:32,47 --> 00:26:39,17 a lot as an advocate for veterans. I am very proud to have been elected 316 00:26:39,18 --> 00:26:43,20 a week ago yesterday as a state commander for M.P.'s it's going to be 317 00:26:43,21 --> 00:26:48,67 a real busy year for me it's running around all over the state for national 318 00:26:48,68 --> 00:26:50,43 meetings in Washington D.C. 319 00:26:50,44 --> 00:26:52,60 And Maryland so it's going to be 320 00:26:52,61 --> 00:26:58,48 a busy year for me but this is what I enjoy doing as advocating for my fellow 321 00:26:58,49 --> 00:26:59,78 veterans that don't have 322 00:27:00,07 --> 00:27:05,61 a voice so that's what we're here to do and I'm very proud to have as one of our 323 00:27:05,62 --> 00:27:11,47 post commanders he's very energetic as you probably all know and that's what we 324 00:27:11,48 --> 00:27:18,40 need and our local post and such to keep him going so is my extreme pleasure to 325 00:27:18,41 --> 00:27:23,70 be yours the seeming I have one comment for yeah I thought about saying that at the 326 00:27:23,71 --> 00:27:29,58 time your flag needs to be presented with equal facing out 327 00:27:30,41 --> 00:27:34,14 I noticed that as we did the Pledge of Allegiance but I didn't want to interrupt 328 00:27:34,15 --> 00:27:39,80 your meeting so in the future if you make an effort to try to display it the right 329 00:27:39,81 --> 00:27:45,65 way it will help other people want to say thank yous gentlemen ladies and gentlemen 330 00:27:45,73 --> 00:27:48,44 thank you very much graduation 331 00:27:48,70 --> 00:27:53,35 thank 332 00:27:53,35 --> 00:27:55,77 . You 333 00:27:56,54 --> 00:28:03,18 . Jesse seriously I'm president forty 334 00:28:03,18 --> 00:28:08,37 . And. This. 335 00:28:17,39 --> 00:28:17,77 Or about 336 00:28:17,78 --> 00:28:24,23 a week in May around May twelfth to May seventeenth Mr Gary buckles of Gary our 337 00:28:24,24 --> 00:28:30,54 buckles investigation and council team met with many city employees and others the 338 00:28:30,55 --> 00:28:35,02 purpose of the meeting was unclear but for the from the questions and topics 339 00:28:35,03 --> 00:28:39,53 discussed the focus appeared to be related issues associated with the public works 340 00:28:39,54 --> 00:28:42,85 director. On May twenty third the C. 341 00:28:42,86 --> 00:28:47,23 Manager came to the weekly public works safety meeting and explained that Mr 342 00:28:47,24 --> 00:28:53,42 Buckles. Was not due any personal investigation or investigation on any one person 343 00:28:53,68 --> 00:29:00,13 but was doing an analyst's of the organization This seemed odd since the focus of 344 00:29:00,14 --> 00:29:04,79 discussion with Mr Buckles was mainly regarding the public works director the city 345 00:29:04,80 --> 00:29:08,100 manager stated that as a result of the investigation the C. 346 00:29:09,01 --> 00:29:10,17 Manager would be spending 347 00:29:10,18 --> 00:29:16,13 a lot more time at the Public Works Department at that meeting I asked for 348 00:29:16,14 --> 00:29:20,74 a copy of the report and was told by the city manager that only the city manager 349 00:29:20,75 --> 00:29:26,83 would see it and then it would be destroyed it is my understanding that no one else 350 00:29:26,84 --> 00:29:31,77 including the city council city attorney or department heads will see that report 351 00:29:34,56 --> 00:29:38,54 the only person the city manager has talked with about the report seems to be the 352 00:29:38,55 --> 00:29:43,81 public works director since this report was an organizational study and not 353 00:29:43,82 --> 00:29:49,04 a personal investigation and the investigation and subsequent report were paid for 354 00:29:49,05 --> 00:29:51,31 by taxpayer dollars I am making 355 00:29:51,32 --> 00:29:56,54 a public records request for the following documents. A copy of the agreement 356 00:29:56,59 --> 00:30:01,18 including scope of work and cost between the city of Fortuna and Mr Buckles 357 00:30:02,36 --> 00:30:08,83 a copy of any insurance licenses or other documentation provided to city by Mr 358 00:30:08,84 --> 00:30:14,87 Buckles establishing his coffee qualifications to perform the study. Copy of the 359 00:30:15,17 --> 00:30:21,88 report prepared by Mr Buckles including any findings and or recommendations. It 360 00:30:21,89 --> 00:30:27,33 copy of the invoice is paid to Mr Buckles for the organizational study including 361 00:30:27,34 --> 00:30:30,09 the account numbers and where the expenses were posted 362 00:30:31,33 --> 00:30:37,01 a copy of any other invoices for costs related to the organizational study 363 00:30:37,56 --> 00:30:42,13 conducted by Mr Buckles including the account numbers were and wishes were posted 364 00:30:42,87 --> 00:30:43,41 and I have 365 00:30:43,42 --> 00:30:57,44 a copy of all my requests for everybody thank you. 366 00:31:02,26 --> 00:31:07,22 Is there anyone else in the public that would like to speak. 367 00:31:09,56 --> 00:31:11,81 Right you know where. I make 368 00:31:11,82 --> 00:31:18,50 a comment about the presentation. I don't know 369 00:31:18,50 --> 00:31:23,87 . What to believe show says it nobody's water is turned off and on but we have 370 00:31:23,88 --> 00:31:28,84 a gentleman who says that his water was turned off and on. US and all that aside 371 00:31:28,85 --> 00:31:34,88 and go to the policy which is what he said he wanted to see addressed. He wasn't 372 00:31:34,89 --> 00:31:38,86 arguing with the process he was arguing the policy the policy is that it ten 373 00:31:38,87 --> 00:31:45,66 o'clock the water is considered turned off. And the statement was that they had no 374 00:31:45,67 --> 00:31:52,07 way of Notify I think notifying if somebody comes in what do they do 375 00:31:52,96 --> 00:31:57,17 it's easy to pick up the phone and they call the person and say Have you turned off 376 00:31:57,18 --> 00:32:03,08 their water if they have it you say you don't they're here to pay their bill good 377 00:32:03,77 --> 00:32:09,22 except for you charge them one hundred dollars. And that's the policy that's being 378 00:32:09,80 --> 00:32:14,65 objected to is part of charging somebody one hundred dollars when in fact the water 379 00:32:14,66 --> 00:32:19,68 has not been turned off this isn't it so it's it creates sort of 380 00:32:19,69 --> 00:32:26,60 a race to the finish perhaps and it may be. What you don't want to do but 381 00:32:26,61 --> 00:32:33,07 I want to tell you that the municipal code which allows the collection the fee this 382 00:32:33,08 --> 00:32:38,72 effectively if water service is cut off. You may collect 383 00:32:38,73 --> 00:32:43,38 a fee Thank you 384 00:32:43,38 --> 00:32:49,44 . If 385 00:32:50,22 --> 00:32:54,45 anyone else from the public would like to speak Mr Mayor make 386 00:32:54,46 --> 00:32:59,63 a most closed public comment period. So I can remove you saying you need to close 387 00:32:59,64 --> 00:33:06,26 public comment home in favor signify missing and I. Posed. 388 00:33:08,38 --> 00:33:13,22 The other clarification on that one hundred dollars with the municipal code runs 389 00:33:13,23 --> 00:33:19,76 down sure. Sure you want to answer that. 390 00:33:20,65 --> 00:33:27,05 The Municipal Code states that it's disconnected the service of disconnecting 391 00:33:27,53 --> 00:33:28,16 may not be 392 00:33:28,17 --> 00:33:33,80 a physical thing that actually happens I'm not sure if that answers your question 393 00:33:33,81 --> 00:33:40,59 but the hundred dollars on the reconnect the Is that what you were asking about 394 00:33:40,59 --> 00:33:47,44 . The usual reconnect the A seventy five dollars if you have had your 395 00:33:47,45 --> 00:33:51,32 water shut off previously then it goes to one hundred dollars. 396 00:33:54,79 --> 00:34:01,22 And they connect disconnect is it then o'clock so you can enter the. There's 397 00:34:01,23 --> 00:34:07,57 a lot of things involved in the process that we're trying to recover other than the 398 00:34:08,28 --> 00:34:13,76 actual turning of the meter because we've had have invested time and reminder 399 00:34:13,77 --> 00:34:20,16 notices sending out shut off notices door hangers preparing them having staff go 400 00:34:20,17 --> 00:34:26,40 out so the whole process of the disconnect is contributing towards the 401 00:34:26,97 --> 00:34:33,56 cost of the reconnect. Do you think that maybe we need to reword our municipal code 402 00:34:33,57 --> 00:34:38,84 to say what you just said. That's about 403 00:34:38,85 --> 00:34:44,84 a city attorney question is this cutting out. That's a possibility but there are 404 00:34:44,85 --> 00:34:50,63 a lot of things in the municipal code that are not clear which is why we establish 405 00:34:50,67 --> 00:34:55,30 standard procedures so that we can try to implement the intent of the municipal 406 00:34:55,31 --> 00:35:01,75 code fairly and equitably to all of our customers. So we started on that 407 00:35:02,67 --> 00:35:09,32 we certainly can clarify it. The amount the exact amount I don't that's set by 408 00:35:09,33 --> 00:35:10,04 council. 409 00:35:18,65 --> 00:35:22,25 Maybe we should you know we should just look at it again to make sure we're right 410 00:35:22,26 --> 00:35:26,52 in the in the municipal code so if we go back we've been going through 411 00:35:26,53 --> 00:35:31,55 a lot of that over the last few years and it's something we can. Certainly we can 412 00:35:31,56 --> 00:35:36,70 do and I think our municipal code went along with our policy instead of our work 413 00:35:36,71 --> 00:35:42,17 trying to justify our policy and almost matches human and municipal code can be 414 00:35:42,18 --> 00:35:48,46 nice if we could fix that just just to clarify it doesn't contradict the municipal 415 00:35:48,47 --> 00:35:52,37 code in a lot of cases the municipal code is written 416 00:35:52,50 --> 00:35:57,98 a little bit generically and then we do establish policies and procedures to carry 417 00:35:57,99 --> 00:36:04,53 out the municipal code it doesn't necessarily match verbatim what we're doing 418 00:36:05,40 --> 00:36:10,01 OK. You know the comments 419 00:36:10,01 --> 00:36:15,80 . Moving on the next item on the agenda is 420 00:36:15,80 --> 00:36:20,83 a report for just using the money. That's always 421 00:36:20,84 --> 00:36:27,60 a tough one I hate giving money away. Well clarification like giving money away 422 00:36:27,61 --> 00:36:28,20 you're paying for 423 00:36:28,21 --> 00:36:33,24 a meal Yes I mean for services services delivered that's all of this is 424 00:36:33,25 --> 00:36:38,35 a report of our disbursements for June twentieth. To the city council and to the 425 00:36:38,36 --> 00:36:43,17 Redevelopment Agency the disbursements for the city were one hundred forty two 426 00:36:43,18 --> 00:36:47,54 thousand four hundred ninety three dollars ninety eight cents and for the 427 00:36:47,54 --> 00:36:54,36 redevelopment agency one thousand two hundred fifty dollars. It's an oral report no 428 00:36:54,36 --> 00:36:59,88 action by the council is required. QUESTION And if you know 429 00:36:59,88 --> 00:37:05,79 . We're you know and I don't five which is the Consent Calendar and we have eight I 430 00:37:05,79 --> 00:37:12,57 don't think Allen or any of the council wish to pull any item. 431 00:37:12,57 --> 00:37:17,99 Mr Mayor number seven and number eight. I know it's not 432 00:37:18,00 --> 00:37:24,65 a question on number two. Mr Merriman to most to 433 00:37:24,66 --> 00:37:31,40 approve consent counter-arguments number one three four five and six 434 00:37:32,12 --> 00:37:38,97 so it's been moving to do Pru can say counting right I'm on three four 435 00:37:39,01 --> 00:37:42,17 five and six all in favor signify by saying I 436 00:37:42,17 --> 00:37:49,16 . Asked that we start with number 437 00:37:49,17 --> 00:37:55,80 two we would like to. Development Report. On the sub subdivision 438 00:37:55,81 --> 00:38:01,36 status report on page ten there are three subdivisions that are expiring within the 439 00:38:01,37 --> 00:38:04,73 next three months and I just wanted to make sure that those people are being 440 00:38:04,74 --> 00:38:10,90 contacted and that they will not be allowed to expire without anyone realizing it. 441 00:38:10,90 --> 00:38:16,69 So noted Do you. Think the last time I brought that up they're automatically 442 00:38:16,70 --> 00:38:22,06 extended or is an automatic extension of the freebie Yes but what we will make sure 443 00:38:22,07 --> 00:38:28,02 there is adequate notice. I make the most to approve item number two 444 00:38:28,02 --> 00:38:33,41 . So the second to do approve item number two on the favorite thing if I was in 445 00:38:33,42 --> 00:38:40,20 a right and I. Thought. Item number seven I don't number seven 446 00:38:40,20 --> 00:38:46,80 . This is about River Lodge and the 447 00:38:46,81 --> 00:38:52,51 bottom I'm an advocate of the gift shop sales. This year 448 00:38:52,51 --> 00:38:59,41 . They're trying something new which was to. Continue 449 00:38:59,42 --> 00:39:02,58 selling foreign like products but also to have 450 00:39:02,68 --> 00:39:09,45 a second. Products sale which started with the thirteenth and I 451 00:39:09,46 --> 00:39:15,03 heard that the first increment of components the six hundred items that they got 452 00:39:15,07 --> 00:39:21,52 were sold out immediately so they went and got another six hundred delivered. And 453 00:39:21,53 --> 00:39:26,67 I'm assuming the same feeding frenzy occurred on that so I guess my question is how 454 00:39:26,68 --> 00:39:30,81 many times can we do the seconds until we run out the seconds because it's 455 00:39:30,82 --> 00:39:36,68 benefiting both this the city for the gift shop sales as well as fire and light. 456 00:39:36,68 --> 00:39:39,11 But I'm definitely in favor of this if we can do this on 457 00:39:39,12 --> 00:39:46,02 a yearly or by by yearly by annually whatever we need to embrace it. For 458 00:39:46,51 --> 00:39:53,05 item number eight on page twenty seven. For the public this is 459 00:39:53,06 --> 00:39:53,79 a consideration of 460 00:39:53,80 --> 00:39:58,54 a request for to the concert series to waive the fee for the river large in the 461 00:39:58,55 --> 00:40:01,61 co-sponsor Air Force jazz 462 00:40:01,62 --> 00:40:08,30 a band concert. And the fee that has been requested to be waived is the daily fee 463 00:40:08,31 --> 00:40:12,76 of eight hundred fifty dollars and I just want to point out that that is for the 464 00:40:12,77 --> 00:40:17,08 whole entire day the period of time the disbands going to be there is not going to 465 00:40:17,09 --> 00:40:24,01 be eight hours it will be far far shorter than that so. The cost technically is not 466 00:40:24,02 --> 00:40:25,90 that much but still had 467 00:40:25,91 --> 00:40:30,46 a court date on fifty dollars and I am definitely in favor of that any time you can 468 00:40:30,47 --> 00:40:36,59 bring some patriotic service branch band to arst city and let people listen to 469 00:40:36,60 --> 00:40:40,68 these professionals that are serving our country and providing all this wonderful 470 00:40:40,69 --> 00:40:46,51 music I'm truly in favor of it so what that Mr Mayor I make a motion approved. And 471 00:40:46,52 --> 00:40:52,54 a free concert yes. Stephanie there is there any comments on either one of those 472 00:40:52,55 --> 00:40:55,75 items seven number eight with the Air Force 473 00:40:55,76 --> 00:41:01,00 a jazz band I was very honored when Kareen and Jim Stanfield brought to this idea 474 00:41:01,01 --> 00:41:05,88 to me and then in turn to the city and I think it's 475 00:41:05,89 --> 00:41:11,95 a great program I don't know that there were it has been some discussion about 476 00:41:11,96 --> 00:41:17,45 maybe if we could see that they could do two programs on that day rather than just 477 00:41:17,46 --> 00:41:24,40 one but so it might be more than an hour or length you know 478 00:41:24,63 --> 00:41:29,86 our two could be longer depending on if it's an afternoon concert in the maybe an 479 00:41:29,90 --> 00:41:31,40 evening concert because it is on 480 00:41:31,41 --> 00:41:38,28 a Sunday but it any rate I'm sure that whatever venue they it's going to be packed 481 00:41:38,28 --> 00:41:44,67 . Especially if they do have just one program but I was very honored I'm 482 00:41:45,36 --> 00:41:50,35 glad to see this on the consent of June. OK With that I make 483 00:41:50,36 --> 00:41:55,54 a motion to approve five number seven and eight Second it moved and seconded to 484 00:41:55,55 --> 00:42:01,75 approve item seven and eight figure signify by saying I. Approved 485 00:42:02,60 --> 00:42:08,41 I mean on to the business items for tonight's meeting. The first item is 486 00:42:08,42 --> 00:42:14,21 a public hearing city of fourteen urban water management plan after resolution two 487 00:42:14,22 --> 00:42:20,39 thousand and eleven dash twenty five main presenting the staff report this evening 488 00:42:20,40 --> 00:42:26,13 is Dennis Ryan our Director of Public Works and city engineer. Thank you doing good 489 00:42:26,14 --> 00:42:29,82 evening honorable mayor and council members they got to be for you at this time it 490 00:42:29,83 --> 00:42:30,31 is 491 00:42:30,32 --> 00:42:36,16 a public hearing to consider adopting. Urban no water management plan for the city 492 00:42:36,17 --> 00:42:41,21 of Fortuna the city has recently contracted with environmental and freshwater 493 00:42:41,22 --> 00:42:45,96 environmental services to assist in the preparation of an update to the city's 494 00:42:45,97 --> 00:42:49,24 urban water management plan the plan is 495 00:42:49,25 --> 00:42:54,10 a regulatory requirement geared primarily toward the efficient operation and 496 00:42:54,11 --> 00:42:57,39 maintenance of water systems and it does have 497 00:42:57,40 --> 00:43:03,77 a focus on water conservation and drought. Emergency Planning City last prepared 498 00:43:03,81 --> 00:43:08,86 a plan in two thousand and although the plan is required to be updated every five 499 00:43:08,87 --> 00:43:13,67 years the city did not update their plan in two thousand and five the two thousand 500 00:43:13,68 --> 00:43:19,16 and ten update deadline was postponed to July thirtieth two thousand and eleven due 501 00:43:19,17 --> 00:43:24,49 to significant changes both in the program and in the plan requirements although 502 00:43:24,50 --> 00:43:24,89 this is 503 00:43:24,90 --> 00:43:29,56 a regular Tory requirement in the past there's been little incentive to update 504 00:43:29,57 --> 00:43:34,89 these plans especially in geographic areas similar to the NOR state who typically 505 00:43:34,90 --> 00:43:41,08 see very small population growth little history of water shortage and water 506 00:43:41,09 --> 00:43:47,09 supplies that have historically been abundant the north coast has also seen 507 00:43:47,13 --> 00:43:49,95 a significant decrease in water demand as 508 00:43:49,96 --> 00:43:56,56 a result of several of our local businesses going out of business. The current 509 00:43:57,35 --> 00:44:00,31 urban water management plan has recently been added as 510 00:44:00,32 --> 00:44:04,91 a requirement to receiving certain grant funds associated to the Department of 511 00:44:04,92 --> 00:44:08,98 Water Resources including several of the programs to which the city has submitted 512 00:44:08,99 --> 00:44:13,78 grant applications therefore obviously the incentive to update urban water 513 00:44:13,79 --> 00:44:19,41 management plans has changed pretty dramatically. The plan that requires the urban 514 00:44:19,42 --> 00:44:24,38 water suppliers report described in about you eight four major areas water to. 515 00:44:24,51 --> 00:44:30,69 Reason uses water supply sources official water uses and demand measurement 516 00:44:31,35 --> 00:44:36,21 management measures which are can be thought of as best management practices for 517 00:44:36,22 --> 00:44:40,66 the operation of the water system. We have prepared 518 00:44:40,67 --> 00:44:46,52 a plan it's quite lengthy It's quite detailed the plan does not answer every 519 00:44:46,53 --> 00:44:51,70 question but it does describe a timing and A It sets a a template or 520 00:44:51,71 --> 00:44:56,99 a plan for completing all of the items that are regulatory requirements and one of 521 00:44:56,100 --> 00:45:01,42 the things that is very interesting to note is that it does force you to look at 522 00:45:01,43 --> 00:45:07,46 your water consumption historically and if you look at the graph on page two of the 523 00:45:07,47 --> 00:45:12,27 report this is on page thirty of the council packet you will notice that over the 524 00:45:12,28 --> 00:45:14,58 past five years there has been 525 00:45:14,59 --> 00:45:19,97 a significant decrease in water consumption within the city and we believe that 526 00:45:19,98 --> 00:45:20,69 this is 527 00:45:20,89 --> 00:45:27,31 a definite factor of being more conscious of and conscientious 528 00:45:27,35 --> 00:45:33,11 about the use of water within the city associated with the new water rates that 529 00:45:33,12 --> 00:45:38,55 were implemented five years ago. The procedural and I should also mention that you 530 00:45:38,56 --> 00:45:44,00 will see and we will talk about that considerably in more depth and in much longer 531 00:45:44,54 --> 00:45:49,00 more detail when we talk about our water and sewer rates that has had 532 00:45:49,01 --> 00:45:55,55 a significant impact on how we structure those rates the procedural requirements 533 00:45:55,56 --> 00:45:57,38 require several things including 534 00:45:57,39 --> 00:46:02,90 a fifteen day public notice prior to the public hearing of the plan it requires 535 00:46:02,91 --> 00:46:07,32 City Council review and approval it must the plan must be available for public 536 00:46:07,33 --> 00:46:13,47 review during normal business hours at least thirty days prior to submittal to the 537 00:46:13,53 --> 00:46:18,13 Department of Water Resources it's required to be submitted to the Department of 538 00:46:18,14 --> 00:46:23,17 Water Resources and it also must be submitted to the California State Library and 539 00:46:23,18 --> 00:46:29,17 we have taken care of. The noticing requirements this is the public hearing to 540 00:46:29,18 --> 00:46:35,71 consider City Council review and approval and draft copy is included in this plan 541 00:46:36,55 --> 00:46:42,10 if Council chooses to adopt this plan we will take care of the making it available 542 00:46:42,11 --> 00:46:46,67 for the required time and posting at both submitting it to both the Department of 543 00:46:46,68 --> 00:46:53,57 Water Resources and the California State Library. The plan as I mentioned is quite 544 00:46:53,58 --> 00:46:57,24 lengthy there is one other thing that council should be aware of as 545 00:46:57,25 --> 00:47:04,20 a result of this process we are pursuing clarification documents that have bounced 546 00:47:04,21 --> 00:47:09,56 around the city for many years in regards to surface water rights on the year 547 00:47:09,57 --> 00:47:13,72 wherever we're talking with the apartment of water resources there are some details 548 00:47:13,73 --> 00:47:17,99 that may come out of those conversations that may require some modifications to 549 00:47:18,00 --> 00:47:23,28 this plan it will be quite some time before those questions are answered We would 550 00:47:24,13 --> 00:47:27,83 suggest that this plan be adopted at this point in time and depending upon the 551 00:47:27,84 --> 00:47:31,35 outcome of those conversations we consider whether or not modifications are 552 00:47:31,36 --> 00:47:35,47 required to the player would be more than happy to answer any questions of counsel 553 00:47:35,48 --> 00:47:41,52 may have. Any questions of staff this time 554 00:47:43,35 --> 00:47:43,60 just 555 00:47:43,61 --> 00:47:50,47 a comment or two you get seventy five pages of writing here and I've found it very 556 00:47:50,48 --> 00:47:53,84 difficult to find any meat on the bone of this thing that's what we're going to 557 00:47:53,85 --> 00:48:00,35 take as well as the doing we either respond in the negative. It's not 558 00:48:00,36 --> 00:48:06,79 a likable the Fortuna or another statement on here that it's given quite often with 559 00:48:06,80 --> 00:48:10,87 the D M M's is not a foundational E.M.M. 560 00:48:10,89 --> 00:48:12,55 So. It's 561 00:48:12,55 --> 00:48:18,48 a nice historic. And that says we're going to do some things in the future but it 562 00:48:19,25 --> 00:48:21,30 sounds like you I mean to me it looks like you did 563 00:48:21,32 --> 00:48:28,14 a lot of work to satisfy the state requirement that. At least 564 00:48:28,76 --> 00:48:29,21 tell us 565 00:48:29,22 --> 00:48:35,71 a plea I'm not going to argue that point Parker is here with freshwater Environmental 566 00:48:35,75 --> 00:48:40,21 Services and he can he's the one that actually prepared the plan if you have 567 00:48:40,22 --> 00:48:44,93 specific questions of him be more than happy to make him available to answer those 568 00:48:44,94 --> 00:48:50,11 questions in response based upon the level of detail that I am familiar with the 569 00:48:50,12 --> 00:48:56,88 report you are required to address certain specific items and you have three or 570 00:48:56,89 --> 00:49:02,54 four different courses of action to document your consideration of those of those 571 00:49:02,88 --> 00:49:07,98 topics and those are the elements that you identified of either done something 572 00:49:07,99 --> 00:49:12,14 about it it's not applicable you can demonstrate I think that it's not financially 573 00:49:12,15 --> 00:49:17,70 feasible and then the foundational element I believe and maybe or in can provide 574 00:49:17,99 --> 00:49:22,64 additional clarification but I believe that that's not like one of the required 575 00:49:22,74 --> 00:49:27,37 elements you can adopt it if you so choose it's not basically correct or 576 00:49:27,37 --> 00:49:32,77 . You could you come to the mike please do that we 577 00:49:32,77 --> 00:49:39,22 . Think thank you or to address the foundational do you 578 00:49:39,60 --> 00:49:46,08 demand management measures in the program rather measures. More options and the 579 00:49:46,09 --> 00:49:51,72 fact that you've seen such dramatic reductions in gallons used per person per day 580 00:49:52,50 --> 00:49:57,54 is the gallons per capita per day that keeps coming up in the discussion there. As 581 00:49:57,55 --> 00:50:03,71 you've already seen some drastic actions it gets you. To do some of those programs 582 00:50:04,36 --> 00:50:11,17 but there still may be good reasons for looking at those in the future are 583 00:50:11,18 --> 00:50:16,85 so far under stated goals in this report that. We're going to need 584 00:50:16,86 --> 00:50:18,01 a lot more houses and 585 00:50:18,02 --> 00:50:24,75 a lot more people to get the gallons per use per day figure up to our. Both to have 586 00:50:25,00 --> 00:50:28,90 less less rights we've done a really good guys 587 00:50:28,91 --> 00:50:32,84 a really good. Use of the consumption person it's 588 00:50:32,85 --> 00:50:39,49 a good thing. Because the closure of the mill site. Here in town does that 589 00:50:39,58 --> 00:50:46,51 attribute to the Leslie Knope consumption is that factored in the gallons. 590 00:50:46,51 --> 00:50:53,20 Per capita per day figure gallons per capita to per day is based on your amount of 591 00:50:53,21 --> 00:51:00,08 water that's produced. By your population if your town had two 592 00:51:00,09 --> 00:51:05,80 percent or more of your water for industrial uses the process by which you could 593 00:51:05,84 --> 00:51:12,33 eliminate those. Of the bench total production divided by 594 00:51:12,34 --> 00:51:16,43 population. With these reductions or gals 595 00:51:16,43 --> 00:51:21,96 . 596 00:51:24,45 --> 00:51:31,22 You. Thank you for being here. At the end nice meeting you in the audience 597 00:51:31,22 --> 00:51:38,05 . It is very unique that we've done the sewer water increases which 598 00:51:38,68 --> 00:51:45,12 ironically have facilitated meeting some of these mandates and I decided to tweak 599 00:51:45,13 --> 00:51:50,69 the numbers I was like play numbers now coming up with at least the bases. Into the 600 00:51:50,70 --> 00:51:56,77 year two thousand going by the hundred thirty two gallons per day that works out to 601 00:51:56,78 --> 00:52:00,27 five hundred fifty five cubic feet so if you have 602 00:52:00,28 --> 00:52:07,14 a water bill that reflects that and you're under that guess what. You're 603 00:52:07,15 --> 00:52:09,24 close but you're still 604 00:52:09,25 --> 00:52:16,21 a little bit above. The low amount which is way below the target of two fifty 605 00:52:16,25 --> 00:52:19,97 two thousand and fifteen in two thousand and twenty the low amount that's been 606 00:52:19,98 --> 00:52:25,74 reflected right now is an average of four hundred thirty. Cubic Feet 607 00:52:25,74 --> 00:52:31,99 . And I think some of us up here. Could probably combine both of ours together and 608 00:52:32,00 --> 00:52:33,60 come up with four hundred thirty so 609 00:52:33,90 --> 00:52:40,74 a lot of people are meeting that requirement and. The program for Bond pay back 610 00:52:41,23 --> 00:52:45,76 has made that happen although there are other people that the sky's the limit and 611 00:52:45,77 --> 00:52:50,84 they have a lot of things in their home and we can't find them in penalty but it's 612 00:52:50,85 --> 00:52:55,73 a averaging mathematical averaging concept that what you are referring to that we 613 00:52:55,74 --> 00:53:02,43 go by. You have material information in here 614 00:53:02,96 --> 00:53:09,45 that. Reflected Scotia. And what happens in Scotia stays in Scotia 615 00:53:09,82 --> 00:53:11,66 what happens super tuna as 616 00:53:11,67 --> 00:53:16,04 a water supply stays in unfortunate and we definitely don't distribute our water 617 00:53:16,05 --> 00:53:22,26 anyplace else. Which is interesting is but that's it's in house 618 00:53:22,82 --> 00:53:29,52 and what you reported as components of the breakdown of materials that were 619 00:53:30,31 --> 00:53:34,81 negative not what you want to find in our water I'm not sure whether that was 620 00:53:34,82 --> 00:53:39,66 reflected because of Scotia's breakdown the manganese and so forth we don't have 621 00:53:39,67 --> 00:53:45,62 stinky water in Fortuna it comes from old river bar old old river base that 622 00:53:46,27 --> 00:53:50,89 thousands of years ago used to be above the bluffs where the trap club is but it 623 00:53:50,90 --> 00:53:55,95 just swings around and does what it wants to do. And the volume of water that you 624 00:53:55,99 --> 00:54:02,47 refer to is. I personally think that we have probably one the best water supplies 625 00:54:02,48 --> 00:54:06,49 in the state of California because of people in the valley are trying to force 626 00:54:06,50 --> 00:54:11,11 mandates against us to change our ways when technically we don't have anything to 627 00:54:11,12 --> 00:54:16,72 say about their water supply that comes from Shasta or from the Sierras so you know 628 00:54:16,73 --> 00:54:22,66 we do have the best of the best the best water we don't have to be paying homage to 629 00:54:23,06 --> 00:54:28,65 municipal water works we don't have to worry about the poor quality of water in Rio 630 00:54:28,66 --> 00:54:34,72 deal or the limited supply of water that's in Scotia so. It was good information I 631 00:54:34,73 --> 00:54:40,48 plowed right through it and found some some stuff interesting and one of them was 632 00:54:40,49 --> 00:54:43,32 on page five in the year two thousand and ten 633 00:54:43,36 --> 00:54:49,33 a total of four hundred forty million gallons of water were pumped from our wells 634 00:54:49,58 --> 00:54:55,81 to the city of Fortuna that works out to one million two hundred five. 635 00:54:55,81 --> 00:55:00,25 Gallons per day which is 636 00:55:00,29 --> 00:55:02,81 a phenomenal amount to use and must been 637 00:55:02,82 --> 00:55:07,02 a lot of fire trucks squirting out of that day. Or 638 00:55:07,03 --> 00:55:10,88 a lot of watering for our parks But anyway thank you very much for providing this 639 00:55:10,89 --> 00:55:16,09 and and it's great to be able to not have to jump through any more state hoops 640 00:55:16,14 --> 00:55:22,44 because we've already met Dakota steps. We will do well you're bringing your 641 00:55:22,45 --> 00:55:26,76 projection of growth like it was one point three percent per year. I don't think 642 00:55:26,77 --> 00:55:29,20 that's going to come into play you know every we were going through 643 00:55:29,21 --> 00:55:34,66 a crisis in our state and I'll take the growth is going to accrue to that level we 644 00:55:34,67 --> 00:55:38,28 did for twelve years really jump high on the hog and be 645 00:55:38,29 --> 00:55:42,16 a lot of homes and relocate people from elsewhere but I don't think that's going to 646 00:55:42,17 --> 00:55:48,43 come into play though probably in our favor Thank you. And even 647 00:55:48,65 --> 00:55:53,76 a quick one on office or in our dentist but there are several references to items 648 00:55:53,77 --> 00:55:58,16 that are going to be completed or implemented by July two thousand and twelve who's 649 00:55:58,17 --> 00:56:02,08 doing that who's keeping track of all of those things and making sure we get them 650 00:56:02,09 --> 00:56:06,96 all done the city people will be responsible for keeping track of those and 651 00:56:07,00 --> 00:56:13,73 completing those and so where it says R D M M L conservation corner is 652 00:56:13,74 --> 00:56:17,07 freshwater Omar mental What are they going to do exactly them versus what the 653 00:56:17,08 --> 00:56:20,69 city's going to do they will be reminding us of things that we need to do and will 654 00:56:20,70 --> 00:56:23,85 be determining whether or not it would be most cost effective for us to clean 655 00:56:23,100 --> 00:56:29,38 complete those in the house or have them take the primary lead in completion of 656 00:56:29,39 --> 00:56:34,75 those items is and then and that cost for that service will be taken out of the 657 00:56:34,76 --> 00:56:37,65 enterprise Yes and of that currently 658 00:56:37,66 --> 00:56:41,58 a budget item that we're going to be talking about tomorrow it's not been taken 659 00:56:41,59 --> 00:56:46,04 into account for the two thousand level but it's included in excuse me under 660 00:56:46,05 --> 00:56:49,59 consultation services I don't know that there is 661 00:56:49,60 --> 00:56:56,10 a specific item for each one of those items but it is estimated in that consulting 662 00:56:56,11 --> 00:57:00,60 services. You know one of our if I'm reading War and if you try to do better 663 00:57:00,60 --> 00:57:07,57 . Yeah you're smart guy. 664 00:57:07,57 --> 00:57:14,44 Then it's good to speak to the educated water rights that the city. May or may 665 00:57:14,45 --> 00:57:19,84 not have it seems to me in the general plan does get back on the discussion that 666 00:57:20,44 --> 00:57:26,90 our subsurface. Pumping from the basin was fairly 667 00:57:26,91 --> 00:57:33,56 secure. I don't is that we don't take surface water off the heel river it's 668 00:57:34,11 --> 00:57:38,39 two different things or is that the same thing that happens to be the question that 669 00:57:38,40 --> 00:57:43,38 we're primarily investigating with the Department of Water Resources what we have 670 00:57:43,39 --> 00:57:50,25 found is that due to if you are seems to be fairly anxious to assign 671 00:57:50,48 --> 00:57:56,57 surface water rights to anything that they think may even remotely be related I'm 672 00:57:56,58 --> 00:58:00,32 not sure what the philosophy is behind that but there are many questions around 673 00:58:00,33 --> 00:58:03,55 that particular item that we are pursuing what do you do if you are 674 00:58:03,55 --> 00:58:10,39 . Well you talked 675 00:58:10,40 --> 00:58:16,42 about on page sixty seven. Plans to fully implement the D M 676 00:58:17,18 --> 00:58:20,86 G By July and then it says all these things are going to do you what do you mean by 677 00:58:20,87 --> 00:58:22,50 contacts with the public four times 678 00:58:22,51 --> 00:58:28,46 a year there will actually be public education outreach programs where we will go 679 00:58:28,47 --> 00:58:29,93 to schools or we will have 680 00:58:30,76 --> 00:58:36,12 a president will make presentations. So any time you go somewhere say 681 00:58:36,13 --> 00:58:40,92 a school or wherever it might be that's considered one of your four appearances yes 682 00:58:41,06 --> 00:58:41,67 and it could be 683 00:58:41,68 --> 00:58:45,18 a Rotary Club It could be term programmers it could be I want us to be 684 00:58:45,19 --> 00:58:50,38 a council thing where we have to do this work you don't have to do that. And you 685 00:58:50,39 --> 00:58:57,29 know that occasion programs would be basically conservation This is all. Seventy 686 00:58:57,30 --> 00:59:03,10 some pages on conservation simply it's focused on conservation and drought planning 687 00:59:03,11 --> 00:59:03,72 and management 688 00:59:03,72 --> 00:59:10,24 . 689 00:59:11,90 --> 00:59:16,52 Public he went on the public that would like to address this matter and now take 690 00:59:16,53 --> 00:59:23,52 the podium please. To close public comment second 691 00:59:23,53 --> 00:59:24,91 the motion removed in 692 00:59:24,96 --> 00:59:28,99 a second to close public comment ever signify by saying I I thought I 693 00:59:28,99 --> 00:59:35,63 . Was the pleasure of the Council. I'll move to adopt 694 00:59:35,64 --> 00:59:38,84 a resolution two thousand and eleven dash twenty five and read by title of the 695 00:59:39,46 --> 00:59:44,16 second the motion it's been moved and seconded to approve Resolution two thousand 696 00:59:44,17 --> 00:59:45,42 and eleven dash twenty five 697 00:59:45,43 --> 00:59:50,39 a resolution of the city council of the city for the urban water management plan 698 00:59:51,39 --> 00:59:51,62 just 699 00:59:51,63 --> 00:59:59,09 a question. On the resolution itself on about the seventh warehouse down below. 700 00:59:59,09 --> 01:00:03,70 It says the city did not receive any comments and that at least with mine looks 701 01:00:03,71 --> 01:00:08,88 like shaded so that's taken out it will be yeah it's 702 01:00:08,89 --> 01:00:15,00 a statement of fact but we didn't know it to be true until now stays in so stay and 703 01:00:15,89 --> 01:00:20,86 you. Get. To be 704 01:00:20,87 --> 01:00:26,91 a local council member cause or Yes Ma'am from some member long yes some are lousy 705 01:00:27,03 --> 01:00:33,91 Yes Remember I'm strong. I'm sorry mair pro-tem stance here yes. It's 706 01:00:33,92 --> 01:00:34,05 been 707 01:00:34,06 --> 01:00:42,32 a while since that one stroke yes. Next 708 01:00:42,33 --> 01:00:47,60 item on the agenda is to consider adoption as Council policy and procedures manual 709 01:00:47,81 --> 01:00:52,86 and operates Aleutian two thousand and eleven dash fourteen. American Council 710 01:00:52,87 --> 01:00:58,48 members this is really your project this was something that the city council had 711 01:00:58,49 --> 01:00:58,73 made 712 01:00:58,74 --> 01:01:04,92 a desire statement about particularly brought forward by mirror struggle and you 713 01:01:04,93 --> 01:01:10,83 have been working as you know on several workshops sessions in the early mornings. 714 01:01:10,83 --> 01:01:16,68 I think there were four of them if I remember correctly. Staff provided you with 715 01:01:16,69 --> 01:01:22,92 a couple of options of various examples from other cities you've selected one that 716 01:01:22,93 --> 01:01:28,52 was probably more in tune with Fortuna and then went about modifying adding 717 01:01:28,53 --> 01:01:34,99 correction and making it for to his own and so you know more about this product and 718 01:01:35,06 --> 01:01:41,49 certainly his I was there with you your city attorney was. But this was I think 719 01:01:41,50 --> 01:01:47,17 a very big step forward and so staff is presented to you this evening based on your 720 01:01:47,18 --> 01:01:51,75 last workshop where you seem to be pleased with what the file modifications were 721 01:01:52,20 --> 01:01:57,29 and is being brought to you for adoption and at this time I'd also like to make 722 01:01:57,30 --> 01:02:01,01 a point of thanking Linda Jensen she did quite 723 01:02:01,02 --> 01:02:05,74 a bit of work on researching this and also following the corrections and providing 724 01:02:05,75 --> 01:02:08,45 you know those documents and was it was quite 725 01:02:08,46 --> 01:02:15,37 a bit of work and I thank you. So staff is so suggest in proposing 726 01:02:15,38 --> 01:02:19,53 that you adopt this manual through the doctrine of resolution two thousand and 727 01:02:19,54 --> 01:02:25,32 fourteen. I you know. I like the process we went through to come up with this 728 01:02:25,33 --> 01:02:28,83 handbook we really. Prior counsels there wasn't 729 01:02:29,57 --> 01:02:34,37 a guideline for anybody new coming on the council to kind of understand what the 730 01:02:34,38 --> 01:02:39,27 council was all about and some of its responsibilities I think what we were able to 731 01:02:39,28 --> 01:02:41,19 accomplish was to come up with at least 732 01:02:41,69 --> 01:02:47,26 a national handbook to start out and for everybody. It's something that can be 733 01:02:47,27 --> 01:02:50,17 changed in the future would. Linda did 734 01:02:50,18 --> 01:02:53,55 a fantastic job of gathering and books from I do 735 01:02:53,56 --> 01:02:57,92 a few different cities that we had to read and choose and pick from and human to 736 01:02:58,35 --> 01:03:03,07 listen to us through all of our meetings and did all of our corrections and ceteris 737 01:03:03,73 --> 01:03:06,81 and. It came out I think it came out to be 738 01:03:06,82 --> 01:03:12,51 a good document anyway that's my comment he made on so many comments on it you know 739 01:03:12,52 --> 01:03:19,16 I just want to excuse me. Thank you so Linda she was very patient with us and she 740 01:03:19,17 --> 01:03:25,07 had helped us with wording and ideas and was going to contact cetera et cetera et 741 01:03:25,08 --> 01:03:31,54 cetera in. The end product that's an actual product legalese on it's well worth it 742 01:03:31,54 --> 01:03:38,37 . It's also I want to thank Linda to them for the work she did but it's also 743 01:03:38,37 --> 01:03:45,10 . A reference to the public to look at to see how we are supposed to conduct our 744 01:03:45,11 --> 01:03:51,90 business and make sure that we do that our own rules so again thank you Linda if 745 01:03:52,12 --> 01:03:56,87 you don't give the public they want to be candidates actually know what they're up 746 01:03:56,88 --> 01:03:58,25 to as 747 01:03:58,26 --> 01:04:04,20 a recruiter cry when snob Legations rather than coming in extreme you know naive 748 01:04:04,20 --> 01:04:11,15 . Nine years ago. And learning from the very get go that we have 749 01:04:11,16 --> 01:04:17,75 a lot to do. But yeah great job Linda and you facilitated it we we 750 01:04:17,96 --> 01:04:21,08 absconded workers from from other cities and made it 751 01:04:21,44 --> 01:04:27,32 a wonderful wonderful workshop bookstore Thanks. I think it also will help the 752 01:04:27,33 --> 01:04:30,58 public if they actually look at it when they are wanting the Council to intervene 753 01:04:30,59 --> 01:04:34,88 or help them with something they'll realize just what the council is supposed to do 754 01:04:34,89 --> 01:04:39,31 versus what the city manager and city is doubtless supposed to do so that I think 755 01:04:39,32 --> 01:04:40,59 will be helpful in the future too 756 01:04:40,59 --> 01:04:48,10 . 757 01:04:48,10 --> 01:04:50,65 I don't know if you could hear Linda at that time but she said it's going to be 758 01:04:50,66 --> 01:04:57,62 available on the website again. So I don't know 759 01:04:57,63 --> 01:05:01,20 most of the demotion yet it will bring it coming our way I guess we need public 760 01:05:01,21 --> 01:05:07,97 capital like that or it's just so on chapter I'm asked right now 761 01:05:07,98 --> 01:05:12,51 it's Michigan they are human head. Is there anyone from the public that would like 762 01:05:12,52 --> 01:05:16,76 to speak on this topic. Mr Mayor make 763 01:05:16,77 --> 01:05:23,64 a motion of your thinking why it's your common good. I want to congratulate 764 01:05:23,65 --> 01:05:24,18 you it's 765 01:05:24,19 --> 01:05:30,78 a very fine document. It's there it's nice to know how something gets on the 766 01:05:30,79 --> 01:05:32,57 agenda and that there's 767 01:05:32,58 --> 01:05:38,15 a process for that. To know the process when you come in to stand here to know the 768 01:05:38,16 --> 01:05:45,07 process is very helpful. I do have to say when I have to give 769 01:05:45,39 --> 01:05:48,92 I say one thing repeat one thing that I said before even though you've heard it 770 01:05:48,93 --> 01:05:55,49 before and that is that. The 771 01:05:55,50 --> 01:06:01,29 interface with the public the one thing that is missing is the follow up you refer 772 01:06:01,30 --> 01:06:08,22 to staff to the city manager. Who follows up to make sure that 773 01:06:08,88 --> 01:06:13,72 what happens. I have given you 774 01:06:14,67 --> 01:06:18,64 a complaint and as far as I know it's in limbo I don't want to bring this up but 775 01:06:18,65 --> 01:06:25,49 it's been eight weeks. And there's been no follow up nobody has contacted me nobody 776 01:06:25,50 --> 01:06:32,20 contacted me when I gave it to you. I saw it on the agenda that was coming up so 777 01:06:32,21 --> 01:06:37,81 there needs to be follow up I want people contact you there needs to be some follow 778 01:06:37,82 --> 01:06:43,42 up. To know that. You know who who do I go to 779 01:06:44,70 --> 01:06:49,22 if I don't hear anything once I contact you thank you thank you 780 01:06:52,63 --> 01:06:59,62 so it's good advice to have to pay to pay attention to that thank you. And 781 01:06:59,63 --> 01:07:04,84 he added comments from the public. Don't do 782 01:07:04,84 --> 01:07:10,12 . Almost we want to get you we could do it. Mr Mayor make 783 01:07:10,13 --> 01:07:15,11 a motion plus public comment period. We moved in seconded to close public comment 784 01:07:15,12 --> 01:07:20,77 period on in favor signify everything I write. I just like it take 785 01:07:20,78 --> 01:07:24,38 a minute Real quick to get to now because she did sit through most of our workshops 786 01:07:24,39 --> 01:07:28,20 and she had several comments that were helpful and we incorporated some of what she 787 01:07:28,21 --> 01:07:31,55 said into this policy and thank you for being there 788 01:07:31,55 --> 01:07:38,47 . When you going to be 789 01:07:38,48 --> 01:07:43,27 brave enough to put this into policy so me OK. I make 790 01:07:43,28 --> 01:07:47,15 a motion that we adopt resolutions number two thousand and eleven dash fourteen 791 01:07:47,16 --> 01:07:52,16 read up by title only so I can. It's Beluga secular do approve resolution number 792 01:07:52,17 --> 01:07:56,06 two thousand and eleven dash for the resolution of the city council of the city of 793 01:07:56,07 --> 01:07:59,61 fourteen adopting the council policy and procedures manual 794 01:07:59,61 --> 01:08:05,29 . That takes 795 01:08:05,30 --> 01:08:10,95 a roll call and council member Glazer Yes ma'am council member along yes also 796 01:08:10,96 --> 01:08:17,37 member Alosi Yes very pro tem Sandy Yes very strong yes. And I 797 01:08:17,38 --> 01:08:18,34 congratulate all 798 01:08:18,35 --> 01:08:24,87 a few as well. For working as diligently and cooperatively as we all do 799 01:08:24,87 --> 01:08:31,83 . And we learn from this they can there's not like etceteras. 800 01:08:31,83 --> 01:08:32,08 To have 801 01:08:32,09 --> 01:08:38,89 a page up and coming up. OK moving on to the next item of 802 01:08:38,90 --> 01:08:45,74 the on the agenda item C is to consider authorization of extension of the thousand 803 01:08:45,75 --> 01:08:49,89 and ten two thousand and eleven please go budget for both the city and the read of 804 01:08:49,89 --> 01:08:56,07 . Dr resolutions two thousand and eleven X. Twenty four an R.T.A. 805 01:08:56,08 --> 01:09:02,90 Two thousand and eleven or one. Doing. This particular staff report and 806 01:09:02,91 --> 01:09:08,09 what the two resolutions allow the council to do is to extend this year's physical 807 01:09:08,10 --> 01:09:13,40 your budget into next year and as you know tomorrow night we take up reviewing the 808 01:09:13,41 --> 01:09:18,78 draft proposed budget for you and we have two meeting set aside for that Tuesday 809 01:09:18,79 --> 01:09:23,40 and Wednesday and I suspect that we will get through the entire budget in that 810 01:09:23,41 --> 01:09:29,10 timeframe with that said to based on the comments and direction we get from staff 811 01:09:29,44 --> 01:09:34,33 we'll need to prepare that budget for your official adoption of it which at the 812 01:09:34,34 --> 01:09:41,30 earliest won't occur until Tuesday July fifth so moving into and of course not 813 01:09:41,37 --> 01:09:44,08 it doesn't always go as planned in there might even be 814 01:09:44,09 --> 01:09:47,07 a reason for extending that to even 815 01:09:47,08 --> 01:09:53,05 a later meeting and in July so what I didn't want us to do is enter the new fiscal 816 01:09:53,06 --> 01:09:57,57 year as of one July without a budget in hand and so this was 817 01:09:57,58 --> 01:10:02,18 a procedure that we have done in the past which is essentially extends the current 818 01:10:02,19 --> 01:10:06,83 budget and its elements since the new budget isn't radically different from this 819 01:10:06,84 --> 01:10:12,75 one and gives authority for the city manager to proceed continuing operate the city 820 01:10:12,76 --> 01:10:18,26 government and to operate the Redevelopment Agency which includes issuing payroll 821 01:10:18,27 --> 01:10:23,70 to our employees and house as well as continuing our other operations this 822 01:10:23,71 --> 01:10:25,35 particular resolution does have 823 01:10:25,36 --> 01:10:31,10 a time frame it is good in till July thirty first of two thousand and eleven or 824 01:10:31,11 --> 01:10:34,61 until the two thousand and eleven two thousand and twelve the school year is 825 01:10:34,62 --> 01:10:39,54 adopted budget is adopted whichever occurs first the intent here is this is 826 01:10:39,55 --> 01:10:45,96 a very short natured short term resolution that certainly wouldn't have to go 827 01:10:45,97 --> 01:10:51,28 beyond the month of July unless some extenuating circumstances come up and again we 828 01:10:51,29 --> 01:10:56,13 would have to extend the budget. But that's what's in front of you this evening and 829 01:10:56,14 --> 01:11:00,28 staff is recommending that you adopt. Resolution two thousand and eleven dash 830 01:11:00,29 --> 01:11:02,33 twenty four an R.T.A. 831 01:11:02,55 --> 01:11:09,43 Resolution two thousand and eleven dash one. Any 832 01:11:09,44 --> 01:11:14,79 discussion or questions to the city manager I would question regarding payroll if 833 01:11:14,80 --> 01:11:18,29 we approve coal as what it how does that affect the payroll that would be paid in 834 01:11:18,30 --> 01:11:19,45 July or is there 835 01:11:19,46 --> 01:11:25,11 a payroll do it before July fifth there isn't will be coming due but it will be for 836 01:11:25,12 --> 01:11:29,91 payroll that occurred in June so it wouldn't be OK again at this particular time we 837 01:11:29,92 --> 01:11:36,18 have not and do not have an agreement. To do in effect though so why if we go 838 01:11:36,19 --> 01:11:39,98 forward with those that's going to have to probably be the word that the finance 839 01:11:39,99 --> 01:11:45,49 department hates and you probably appreciate is retroactive stuff but that with the 840 01:11:45,50 --> 01:11:52,14 least Laois to honor the payroll you know I think I 841 01:11:52,15 --> 01:11:57,89 answered your question well as we go beyond July thirty first will be OK right that 842 01:11:57,90 --> 01:12:02,57 would be there and I certainly hope we don't get past July fifth right OK 843 01:12:02,57 --> 01:12:09,15 . Tree like there were 844 01:12:09,16 --> 01:12:13,59 openness to the public anyway I would like to address this item. 845 01:12:17,86 --> 01:12:18,72 To close public on 846 01:12:18,73 --> 01:12:23,48 a second the motion moved and seconded to close public comment on in favor signify 847 01:12:23,49 --> 01:12:30,47 present I I think. So closed. Mr 848 01:12:30,48 --> 01:12:35,71 Mayor for the city and move to adopt resolution eleven two thousand and eleven 849 01:12:35,72 --> 01:12:41,56 there are twenty four and read by title only. To move in second had to approve 850 01:12:41,57 --> 01:12:44,18 a resolution two thousand and eleven dash twenty four 851 01:12:44,71 --> 01:12:49,37 a resolution of the city council of the city of Fortunato arising extension of the 852 01:12:49,95 --> 01:12:55,11 two thousand and ten two thousand and eleven fiscal year budget. Rollcall place 853 01:12:55,83 --> 01:12:57,68 council member Glaser Yes ma'am 854 01:12:58,07 --> 01:13:04,49 a member long yes council member yes or pretends answer yes. Yes 855 01:13:04,49 --> 01:13:11,28 . Now we go on to the redevelopment agency. For the redevelopment 856 01:13:11,29 --> 01:13:18,29 agency and loved adopt resolution R D A two thousand and eleven and Swan 857 01:13:18,33 --> 01:13:22,94 and read by title only second the motion in Moved and seconded to approve 858 01:13:22,95 --> 01:13:24,17 a resolution R.D. 859 01:13:24,18 --> 01:13:28,59 a Two thousand and eleven dashes on the resolution of the Fortuna Redevelopment 860 01:13:28,60 --> 01:13:34,65 Agency the city afford to the authorizes the extension of the two thousand and ten 861 01:13:34,66 --> 01:13:39,15 two thousand and eleven fiscal year budget roll call please tell us member Glazer 862 01:13:39,27 --> 01:13:41,72 Yes ma'am it's a member along yes it's 863 01:13:41,73 --> 01:13:46,58 a member mostly yes they're protected and say yes we're strong yes 864 01:13:46,58 --> 01:13:53,21 . OK you want to go it OK 865 01:13:53,21 --> 01:13:58,93 . We're going on to the next item on the agenda it's 866 01:13:58,94 --> 01:14:03,90 a public hearing to consider the adoption of various fees for city services 867 01:14:03,91 --> 01:14:09,18 provided in the area of city manager city clerk fees community development building 868 01:14:09,19 --> 01:14:14,99 permit fees Park and Recreation fees police Animal Control fees River Lodge 869 01:14:14,100 --> 01:14:19,28 conference center and Monday club fees transit fees water and waste water 870 01:14:19,29 --> 01:14:25,69 laboratory fees. Extensions of the water and sewer grate fees 871 01:14:26,44 --> 01:14:32,93 and adopted by resolutions two thousand and eleven dash fifteen two thousand and 872 01:14:32,94 --> 01:14:38,37 eleven dash sixteen two thousand and eleven seventeen two thousand and eighteen two 873 01:14:38,38 --> 01:14:43,20 thousand and eleven nineteen two thousand and eleven twenty and Resolution two 874 01:14:43,21 --> 01:14:47,92 thousand and eleven dash twenty one. Two thousand and eleven dash twenty two and 875 01:14:47,93 --> 01:14:53,73 two thousand and eleven twenty three staff report pleased and Marvel mayor members 876 01:14:53,74 --> 01:15:00,27 of the Council. These are fees were reviewed with you at our workshop 877 01:15:00,28 --> 01:15:07,16 on May thirty first we went over all the items and I think we got some 878 01:15:07,17 --> 01:15:13,98 direction thems most of these fees are have very little change at all from 879 01:15:14,02 --> 01:15:16,34 our courier fees there were 880 01:15:16,35 --> 01:15:21,79 a couple exceptions in park recreation. Community development building development 881 01:15:22,23 --> 01:15:27,29 development new fees our state exactly the same water and sewer stain exactly the 882 01:15:27,30 --> 01:15:33,35 same by and large there are no proposed changes in the fees what this does is move 883 01:15:33,36 --> 01:15:38,77 these fees into being able to be collected for next year's business with one 884 01:15:38,78 --> 01:15:45,23 exception I did want to point out in the staff report on page one eighty. There was 885 01:15:45,24 --> 01:15:50,57 some fees that were I believe addressed by counsel in regards are at that workshop 886 01:15:50,98 --> 01:15:57,81 and. For whatever it is worth we did some research on it but we didn't extract them 887 01:15:57,82 --> 01:16:00,51 if you look on page one eighty there is 888 01:16:00,52 --> 01:16:06,26 a waiver of sidewalks and parking lane fees and it does talk about 889 01:16:06,27 --> 01:16:11,25 a fund and says the fees collected under this section shall be paid into the 890 01:16:11,60 --> 01:16:18,46 collector in artillery or road improvement fund. That and 891 01:16:18,47 --> 01:16:23,21 I'm I'm afraid to tell you this is been in our resolutions in the past and really 892 01:16:23,22 --> 01:16:25,84 I've never picked up on it we don't have such 893 01:16:25,85 --> 01:16:30,57 a fund. Never did. This was 894 01:16:30,58 --> 01:16:36,28 a fee structure that was created some time back I don't know exactly when as far as 895 01:16:36,29 --> 01:16:42,38 I can tell and from all the review of this we've never imposed it never had 896 01:16:42,39 --> 01:16:48,55 a purpose for it. We reviewing it yet again we don't see where it fits in with the 897 01:16:48,56 --> 01:16:53,97 of the purposes of the city in the in the future and so therefore I'm recommending 898 01:16:53,98 --> 01:17:00,93 that that particular item be deleted from our fee structure and I'm sorry I didn't 899 01:17:00,94 --> 01:17:07,32 point out earlier and that was I die identified in staff report but it serves no 900 01:17:07,33 --> 01:17:12,22 purpose that we can see of and in fact it's never been used or have any evidence of 901 01:17:12,23 --> 01:17:18,98 ever using it. If we do need something like that in the future I would suggest we 902 01:17:18,99 --> 01:17:24,59 would rewrite this or go about it differently than how this approach was I don't 903 01:17:24,60 --> 01:17:30,95 know what particular problem or situation was in front of us at the time that this 904 01:17:30,96 --> 01:17:35,91 was being proposed and and subsequently adopted but it didn't seem to ever manifest 905 01:17:35,92 --> 01:17:42,08 itself and certainly we don't see any need for it now that's my staff report and he 906 01:17:42,09 --> 01:17:48,15 questions. Yes yes 907 01:17:49,12 --> 01:17:55,67 yes my last comments on this item related to the term etc is then fee 908 01:17:55,68 --> 01:18:02,33 schedules and the nets that's the day to have our fees. Described with great 909 01:18:02,34 --> 01:18:07,69 clarity if we're going to charge people for. Services. 910 01:18:10,89 --> 01:18:15,10 We have within our fee schedule charges for except 911 01:18:15,11 --> 01:18:21,47 a row that remain the range from zero dollars on page one seventy six for 912 01:18:21,48 --> 01:18:27,62 ministerial business licenses. We charge up to five hundred dollars for an 913 01:18:27,63 --> 01:18:34,58 exception regarding the rodeo ground rental on page one ninety eight so again 914 01:18:34,58 --> 01:18:41,53 . It's I think it's necessary if we're going to say we're going to charge 915 01:18:41,54 --> 01:18:46,22 people for something that we say what it is and not leave it to people's 916 01:18:46,23 --> 01:18:53,14 imagination so there are those fees that exist on page one fifty for residential 917 01:18:53,15 --> 01:18:58,01 sewer rates. There's an except for there we charge thirty eight dollars and seventy 918 01:18:58,02 --> 01:19:03,41 five cents for him Page one seventy six mentioned that one page one eighty eight 919 01:19:03,42 --> 01:19:05,62 temporary power service we charge him except for 920 01:19:05,63 --> 01:19:09,22 a fee for one nine hundred seventy two one thousand dollars and seventy two cents 921 01:19:09,66 --> 01:19:10,82 PAGE ONE money for 922 01:19:10,83 --> 01:19:17,59 a mechanical permit for. The charge for except where there are seventy five dollars 923 01:19:17,93 --> 01:19:19,29 page one ninety eight really 924 01:19:19,30 --> 01:19:23,77 a grounds I mentioned that one page one ninety nine we charge twenty five dollars 925 01:19:23,81 --> 01:19:28,94 an hour for an accept or there or two dollars per person you know page one ninety 926 01:19:28,95 --> 01:19:33,13 nine the record up recreational hall fee we charge and except for 927 01:19:33,14 --> 01:19:39,32 a fee there for twenty dollars to twenty five dollars per hour so just to make it 928 01:19:39,33 --> 01:19:45,36 clear in our fee schedule. I think it's necessary to say what we mean 929 01:19:46,73 --> 01:19:53,14 in those seven or eight into this instances. 930 01:19:54,71 --> 01:19:58,21 They've been him they've been in the fee schedule for years and I guess nobody's 931 01:19:58,64 --> 01:20:00,48 complained about being charged for and except 932 01:20:00,49 --> 01:20:08,18 a robot there. You 933 01:20:08,19 --> 01:20:08,31 have 934 01:20:08,32 --> 01:20:14,81 a good point. I mean it damn it actually when we took exceptions out of our. Our 935 01:20:14,82 --> 01:20:19,70 manual it made it clearer and sharper and more personalized so 936 01:20:19,70 --> 01:20:26,62 . We could approve this and ask for those 937 01:20:26,63 --> 01:20:33,43 to be removed. We could do it that way I believe you can do that and 938 01:20:33,96 --> 01:20:39,73 I would I would ask your programs and see just to make sure I have that I wrote 939 01:20:39,74 --> 01:20:44,51 down all the numbers I got I thank you I thought I think we could do those edits 940 01:20:44,52 --> 01:20:48,59 and I can certainly have going through the center discussion on your other manual 941 01:20:48,74 --> 01:20:49,47 it did add 942 01:20:49,48 --> 01:20:54,73 a lot of clarity and I think it's time overdue and I believe staff based on your 943 01:20:54,74 --> 01:20:58,23 direction would have then the authority to go through these and make the 944 01:20:58,24 --> 01:21:01,32 appropriate corrections or in this case deletions that 945 01:21:01,32 --> 01:21:08,08 . And your other questions of staff on the 946 01:21:08,15 --> 01:21:13,36 few structure we can when it is pretty good back in May 947 01:21:13,36 --> 01:21:19,75 . This is going to be an interesting one because we do have quite 948 01:21:19,76 --> 01:21:26,63 a few resolution. I'm 949 01:21:26,63 --> 01:21:33,15 . Number two you know open the public hearing yes we have to go to the 950 01:21:33,47 --> 01:21:39,78 public arena and even the public like to speak and any of the fee structure. 951 01:21:45,45 --> 01:21:49,76 One of them you know like I want to speak to be an extension of the water and 952 01:21:49,77 --> 01:21:53,85 sewerage fees and of course you can extend that change in them but I want to take 953 01:21:53,86 --> 01:22:00,51 this opportunity to respond to the comment that the one hundred dollars seventy 954 01:22:00,52 --> 01:22:07,03 five dollars is for the whole process of disconnect. The fee 955 01:22:07,38 --> 01:22:13,45 the fee needs to be based on what you do that's a fee. If it's not 956 01:22:13,46 --> 01:22:16,11 a penalty if it's a penalty you already have 957 01:22:16,12 --> 01:22:23,09 a penalty it's ten percent per month overdue. If you may have 958 01:22:23,10 --> 01:22:28,84 to change your door hanger to say that you know at this point there's an additional 959 01:22:28,85 --> 01:22:34,20 penalty or official fee and then the dish will be you see what I'm saying is that 960 01:22:34,51 --> 01:22:40,69 she said that it's for the whole process. All the process hasn't been when you turn 961 01:22:40,70 --> 01:22:45,53 off the water you know if you don't turn off the water if they've already paid and 962 01:22:45,54 --> 01:22:51,93 you don't turn off the water they do not doing that part of the service. 963 01:22:52,74 --> 01:22:56,83 And I just look at the process OK your your your point I thought you wanted me to 964 01:22:56,84 --> 01:23:03,56 look at you I'm sorry. So this is one hundred 965 01:23:03,57 --> 01:23:10,04 dollars to turn the water back on but if the water hasn't turned and turned off 966 01:23:11,35 --> 01:23:16,88 you're charging a fee for something that hasn't been done which is a penalty not 967 01:23:16,89 --> 01:23:23,81 a fee so just imagine some of that the process that we have 968 01:23:23,82 --> 01:23:29,23 to go through our staff time and step up and do up to you had yes yes yes yes 969 01:23:29,62 --> 01:23:35,06 pretty good I think probably the big the big costs is the door hanger and that 970 01:23:35,22 --> 01:23:40,27 turned the tourney off and turned you know we're turning out at that but if the 971 01:23:40,28 --> 01:23:43,95 water hasn't been turning off and turning back on but if the water hasn't been 972 01:23:43,96 --> 01:23:50,54 turned off you haven't done that OK yeah. Oh 973 01:23:50,96 --> 01:23:57,77 sorry where thing just because you're going to. But you know right now our fee. 974 01:23:57,77 --> 01:24:04,74 Or reconnect to be is the highest I looked at. Five 975 01:24:04,75 --> 01:24:11,58 other water services in the county ours was the highest except for Arcadia it 976 01:24:11,59 --> 01:24:16,58 goes to one hundred thirty two if disconnected three or four times but other than 977 01:24:16,59 --> 01:24:23,48 that. Seventy eight sixty five and then we get that's subsequent 978 01:24:23,94 --> 01:24:27,16 our begins at seventy five and goes to one hundred S. 979 01:24:27,49 --> 01:24:34,38 Just want to let you know thank you. Staff want to respond to 980 01:24:34,46 --> 01:24:41,09 any of that but I don't know if if it is but we as well as we pointed out in this 981 01:24:41,09 --> 01:24:41,93 illustration there's 982 01:24:41,95 --> 01:24:46,41 a lot of work before we actually get to turn the water meter off and that's part of 983 01:24:46,43 --> 01:24:52,20 the cost and the point of this is as was also made in the previous presentation 984 01:24:52,22 --> 01:24:52,40 there's 985 01:24:52,41 --> 01:24:58,39 a cost to doing that and so the approach of this it's being paid for by the person 986 01:24:58,80 --> 01:25:05,24 that is requiring that additional notification service the city and not the rest of 987 01:25:05,24 --> 01:25:10,24 the rate payers this whole thing is about protecting the cost to all of our rate 988 01:25:10,24 --> 01:25:15,72 payers and so if they if there are customers that require additional notification 989 01:25:15,73 --> 01:25:21,42 such as mailings and bills and door hangers to remind them to keep their account 990 01:25:21,44 --> 01:25:28,35 current. We feel staff as we presented these and other fee resolutions. 991 01:25:28,35 --> 01:25:33,35 We're putting that cost onto the the customer fires that service not all the rate 992 01:25:33,37 --> 01:25:34,41 payers because 993 01:25:34,42 --> 01:25:41,20 a split out there is bad debt and bad debt is absorbed by the rate payers. May I 994 01:25:41,21 --> 01:25:41,41 make 995 01:25:41,42 --> 01:25:47,05 a comment for quick. Just wanted to clarify something that I'm saying that's not 996 01:25:47,06 --> 01:25:50,35 being understood is the whole ten A.M. 997 01:25:50,39 --> 01:25:54,83 And your water is considered shut off if there are twenty five people that need to 998 01:25:54,84 --> 01:26:01,43 have their water service turned off. It takes them time to turn everyone's water 999 01:26:01,44 --> 01:26:08,32 off so if the person whose water shut off right at ten AM comes 1000 01:26:08,33 --> 01:26:09,48 in and has to pay 1001 01:26:09,49 --> 01:26:15,09 a reconnection fee Why shouldn't the person whose water is scheduled to also be 1002 01:26:15,10 --> 01:26:19,44 turned off that day but they didn't get to it until noon not have to pay that 1003 01:26:19,45 --> 01:26:24,01 because they didn't get to their house by noon so that's the reason why there is an 1004 01:26:24,02 --> 01:26:29,11 absolute deadline for that reconnection fee and then once that once their bill is 1005 01:26:29,12 --> 01:26:35,67 paid again to the finance department is on the radio letting them know this water's 1006 01:26:35,68 --> 01:26:41,24 been paid please turn that water back on and sometimes the payment is happening 1007 01:26:41,25 --> 01:26:45,45 simultaneously with their water being turned off so they may come and saying I'm 1008 01:26:45,46 --> 01:26:48,69 here to pay my bill it hasn't been shut off yet but while they're in there their 1009 01:26:48,70 --> 01:26:52,80 water could be shut off so that's the reason for that ten A.M. 1010 01:26:52,81 --> 01:26:56,50 Deadline you can't give the person whose water hasn't shut off until noon 1011 01:26:56,68 --> 01:27:00,71 a free ride just because their house is further down the road than the one who shot 1012 01:27:00,72 --> 01:27:01,63 off at ten A.M. 1013 01:27:02,15 --> 01:27:06,70 Everyone is treated the same and that's why everything that sent them says ten A.M. 1014 01:27:07,31 --> 01:27:11,35 Now it's to be fair to everyone thank you I just wanted to clear that up I did that 1015 01:27:11,36 --> 01:27:11,49 for 1016 01:27:11,50 --> 01:27:15,96 a long time and that's always been our policy so I wanted to clear it up thank you 1017 01:27:15,96 --> 01:27:18,71 . Mr Mayor make 1018 01:27:18,73 --> 01:27:24,23 a motion plus public comment period so I can maybe instead to declare the comment 1019 01:27:24,24 --> 01:27:31,14 period all in favor signify by saying I. Vote. I just had 1020 01:27:31,74 --> 01:27:36,78 my question I had to step out but was there any discussion about the laying payment 1021 01:27:36,79 --> 01:27:37,62 on a with 1022 01:27:37,63 --> 01:27:44,36 a contractor's development fees. To that was brought up the last time but you know 1023 01:27:44,37 --> 01:27:48,47 we if you recall at the workshop we talked about it and it was 1024 01:27:48,48 --> 01:27:53,40 a question of whether there was still some interest in doing that. We have not 1025 01:27:53,41 --> 01:27:57,96 received any communication from anyone issue either by letter by phone call that I 1026 01:27:57,97 --> 01:28:03,92 knew of if that's something the council would like to do again. We can bring it to 1027 01:28:03,93 --> 01:28:09,66 you at another meeting but right now it without any other action the action from 1028 01:28:09,67 --> 01:28:14,62 last year will and I believe on June thirtieth for anyone that's in this in the 1029 01:28:14,63 --> 01:28:20,25 cycle now and I think we don't we only have one that will continue on until the end 1030 01:28:20,26 --> 01:28:26,64 of the the house is occupied or actually so it's stays in effect while it's under 1031 01:28:26,65 --> 01:28:31,06 construction no matter what it would mean that there are no new ones unless the 1032 01:28:31,07 --> 01:28:35,95 council so directs us to go ahead and bring you bring it back to you but after our 1033 01:28:35,96 --> 01:28:42,65 workshop meeting I did not again hear any interest to do that I thought the idea 1034 01:28:42,66 --> 01:28:47,42 had some merit and I know that there was some discussion about that and I thought 1035 01:28:47,43 --> 01:28:50,72 that we were going to have additional discussion or maybe just include 1036 01:28:50,73 --> 01:28:57,70 a back again for our purposes for the city. It is. Virtually 1037 01:28:57,71 --> 01:29:03,52 no risk because there are liens placed on the property that insured payment at some 1038 01:29:03,53 --> 01:29:10,42 point in the future so. If there's if there's interest 1039 01:29:10,43 --> 01:29:15,46 from other folks on and there was one public speaker that expressed an interest in 1040 01:29:15,47 --> 01:29:20,01 the meeting when we talked about it and I believe we asked that if there were 1041 01:29:20,05 --> 01:29:24,63 others out there because the numbers don't look good one out of. So many and if 1042 01:29:24,64 --> 01:29:30,78 there were others out there that might want to avail themselves of the. Procedure 1043 01:29:30,79 --> 01:29:37,27 to come forward and talk to us and apparently though I do it expires I don't like 1044 01:29:37,27 --> 01:29:44,01 . I don't like delayed obligations of payment it occurred with 1045 01:29:44,40 --> 01:29:48,25 seventeen thousand dollars lost from the person division that we never collected on 1046 01:29:48,26 --> 01:29:55,06 because of slipping through the loopholes in city hall. Sidewalk repayment 1047 01:29:55,07 --> 01:30:01,09 grants or not granting But but loans that were sort of lost 1048 01:30:02,06 --> 01:30:08,31 in the shuffle and disk was experimental and it showed that there was not enough 1049 01:30:08,35 --> 01:30:12,80 overwhelming reception by the building community you didn't stimulate 1050 01:30:13,13 --> 01:30:19,10 a lot of houses being built. On speculation so I'm definitely in favor of 1051 01:30:19,11 --> 01:30:25,38 eliminating it and not perpetuating it. Well we don't we don't have to eliminate it 1052 01:30:25,42 --> 01:30:29,40 automatically so we can bring it back again but right disc this current fiscal year 1053 01:30:29,41 --> 01:30:33,25 it's off the grid is not going to be continued 1054 01:30:33,25 --> 01:30:38,10 . Mr Mayor you need 1055 01:30:38,11 --> 01:30:44,43 a resolution start off you have to start out the race. I would like to make 1056 01:30:44,43 --> 01:30:45,15 a motion to approve 1057 01:30:45,15 --> 01:30:48,57 a resolution two thousand and seven dash fifteen resolution of the city council of 1058 01:30:48,58 --> 01:30:52,61 the studio for Tuna's continuing water and sewer rates and fees for the city of 1059 01:30:52,63 --> 01:30:57,15 Fortuna stablished for fiscal year two thousand and ten through eleven into fiscal 1060 01:30:57,15 --> 01:31:01,83 year two thousand and eleven and twelve. May we have 1061 01:31:01,83 --> 01:31:08,49 a friendly amendment to that resolution but the be removed from the verbiage in 1062 01:31:08,50 --> 01:31:11,10 that item where were every you pointed out 1063 01:31:11,11 --> 01:31:15,36 a set or is it that would be passed on to staff responsibility to direct. 1064 01:31:18,64 --> 01:31:24,41 So I go. It's been moved and seconded to approved resolution two thousand and 1065 01:31:24,42 --> 01:31:25,44 eleven dash fifteen 1066 01:31:25,45 --> 01:31:30,09 a resolution of the city council of the city for today continuing the water and 1067 01:31:30,10 --> 01:31:36,37 sewer rates and fees for the city fortunate stablished fiscal year two thousand and 1068 01:31:36,38 --> 01:31:40,55 two thousand and eleven into fiscal year two thousand and eleven two thousand and 1069 01:31:40,56 --> 01:31:46,08 twelve counts number Glaser Yes ma'am once a member along yes 1070 01:31:46,27 --> 01:31:51,34 a member mostly Yes Robert M's answer yes we are strong yes 1071 01:31:51,34 --> 01:31:56,76 . Mr Mayor I make 1072 01:31:56,77 --> 01:32:00,76 a motion to adopt Resolution two thousand eleven dash sixteen setting city manager 1073 01:32:00,77 --> 01:32:06,90 city clerks please and read by title all of. US and the Ceterus that have been 1074 01:32:06,91 --> 01:32:13,65 doctored up like now it's not really my group but up to the OK. From. Got 1075 01:32:13,66 --> 01:32:13,97 a list out 1076 01:32:13,98 --> 01:32:19,63 a list of sorts I cannot be moved and seconded to prove resolution number two 1077 01:32:19,64 --> 01:32:21,06 thousand and eleven bass sixteen 1078 01:32:21,07 --> 01:32:25,97 a resolution of the city of fortunate stablish in his schedule of fees and charges 1079 01:32:25,98 --> 01:32:32,40 for the city manager and city clerk will call members like this or. As many council 1080 01:32:32,41 --> 01:32:33,69 member along yes 1081 01:32:33,79 --> 01:32:40,59 a member Lossie Yes programs and say yes you're strong yes. All Go 1082 01:32:40,60 --> 01:32:44,92 ahead move to adopt Resolution two thousand and eleven dash seventeen starting 1083 01:32:44,93 --> 01:32:49,35 community development development review fees and read by title only and I would 1084 01:32:49,36 --> 01:32:54,83 like to add on to that page one eighteen to remove the fund that states the fees 1085 01:32:54,84 --> 01:32:57,34 collected under the section will be paid in 1086 01:32:57,35 --> 01:33:02,89 a collector an arterial street improvement fund that would be removed. And I concur 1087 01:33:03,14 --> 01:33:08,79 along with ETCS Ceterus yes or and. Council member Glaser Oh I'm sorry you have to 1088 01:33:08,80 --> 01:33:15,39 read it. A second the motion is going to. Resolution number two thousand and 1089 01:33:15,40 --> 01:33:19,71 eleven that's seventeen resolution of the city of fourteen establishing 1090 01:33:19,72 --> 01:33:24,50 a schedule of fees and charges for the community development and development review 1091 01:33:24,50 --> 01:33:30,53 . Council member Glazer remember Long Yes I was 1092 01:33:30,54 --> 01:33:36,97 a member mostly Yes or part time Sandy Yes there were strong yes. 1093 01:33:38,25 --> 01:33:41,78 And I'll move to adopt a resolution two thousand and eleven Dash eight teams at 1094 01:33:41,79 --> 01:33:47,41 a community development building permit fees and rebuy title including etceteras 1095 01:33:48,23 --> 01:33:54,58 cleanup etc slanderous at Sec of the motion removing seconded to prove resolution 1096 01:33:54,59 --> 01:33:56,26 few thousand and eleven Daschle eighteen 1097 01:33:56,27 --> 01:33:58,76 a resolution of the city of fourteen establishing 1098 01:33:58,77 --> 01:34:04,59 a schedule of fees and charges for the community development and building. Local 1099 01:34:04,80 --> 01:34:08,90 council member Glazer Yes ma'am council member along yes that's a member low-Z. 1100 01:34:08,94 --> 01:34:15,86 Yes there portends and yes very strong yes Mr 1101 01:34:15,87 --> 01:34:16,46 Mayor make 1102 01:34:16,47 --> 01:34:21,27 a motion to. Adopt Resolution two thousand and eleven dash one thousand selling 1103 01:34:21,28 --> 01:34:26,46 Park and Recreation fees and we buy title only and removing the etceteras that 1104 01:34:26,50 --> 01:34:32,75 would keep pointed out by Councilman sassy. Second. They move the secretary do 1105 01:34:32,76 --> 01:34:35,84 approved resolution number two thousand and eleven dash nineteen 1106 01:34:35,85 --> 01:34:38,42 a resolution of the city for tonight establishing 1107 01:34:38,73 --> 01:34:44,08 a schedule of fees and charges for the Park and Recreation local Please also member 1108 01:34:44,09 --> 01:34:46,87 Glazer as ma'am I was a member along yes I was 1109 01:34:46,88 --> 01:34:53,40 a member yes Sandy Yes very strong yes. Mr Mayor IMO to adopt 1110 01:34:53,41 --> 01:34:59,61 resolution twenty eleven dash twenty setting police fees and Animal Control fees 1111 01:34:59,62 --> 01:35:04,25 and read by total only one second that we moved in segregated us 1112 01:35:04,25 --> 01:35:09,85 . It's been moving Thank you did you approve 1113 01:35:09,86 --> 01:35:12,82 a resolution number two thousand and eleven Nash twenty 1114 01:35:12,83 --> 01:35:15,13 a resolution of the city of four tonight establishing 1115 01:35:15,14 --> 01:35:20,11 a schedule of fees and charges for police and Animal Control called Please also 1116 01:35:20,12 --> 01:35:21,66 member Glazer Yes ma'am not 1117 01:35:21,67 --> 01:35:28,33 a member along yes on some member mostly Yes I'm Sandy Yes or strong yes. Mr 1118 01:35:28,34 --> 01:35:28,93 Mayor make 1119 01:35:28,94 --> 01:35:33,57 a motion to adopt Resolution two thousand and eleven dash twenty one setting river 1120 01:35:33,58 --> 01:35:40,35 large conference center and Monday club facility fees and read by title on Second 1121 01:35:41,17 --> 01:35:44,68 it's been moved and seconded to approved resolution number two thousand and eleven 1122 01:35:44,69 --> 01:35:47,99 dash twenty one a resolution of the city of Fortuna stablish in 1123 01:35:48,00 --> 01:35:52,72 a schedule of fees and charges River Lodge conference center and the Monday club 1124 01:35:53,15 --> 01:35:58,65 roll call please council member Glazer Yes ma'am council member along yes. Council 1125 01:35:58,66 --> 01:36:05,15 member Lo C. Yes their protests and say yes they ARE STRONG Yes Mr Mayor I make 1126 01:36:05,16 --> 01:36:09,13 a motion to adopt Resolution two thousand eleven dash twenty two setting transfer 1127 01:36:09,14 --> 01:36:15,72 fees and read by title only. The second to be 1128 01:36:15,85 --> 01:36:19,43 moved and seconded to approved resolution number two thousand and eleven dash 1129 01:36:19,43 --> 01:36:23,27 twenty two resolution city of Fortuna stablish in 1130 01:36:23,28 --> 01:36:29,07 a schedule of fees and charges for transom. Council member grazer Yes ma'am council 1131 01:36:29,08 --> 01:36:35,55 member long yes council member mostly Yes. Yes we are strong yes 1132 01:36:35,55 --> 01:36:41,84 . And last but last here we have 1133 01:36:41,85 --> 01:36:47,53 a motion to adopt resolution twenty eleven twenty three setting water and 1134 01:36:47,54 --> 01:36:51,03 wastewater laboratory fees and read by title only 1135 01:36:51,49 --> 01:36:54,35 a second it's been moved and seconded to approve 1136 01:36:54,36 --> 01:36:58,79 a resolution number two thousand and eleven dash twenty three resolution of the 1137 01:36:58,80 --> 01:37:00,66 city of fourteen and stablish in 1138 01:37:01,17 --> 01:37:05,70 a schedule of fees and charges for water and wastewater laboratory roll call please 1139 01:37:05,85 --> 01:37:09,12 council member Glazer Yes ma'am I was a member long yes I was 1140 01:37:09,13 --> 01:37:13,50 a member Lucy Yes there protests RAMSEY Yes. Yes 1141 01:37:13,50 --> 01:37:19,10 . That was it got through that one 1142 01:37:19,10 --> 01:37:25,57 . I tried to talk him into letting us do it all at once but they wouldn't let me. 1143 01:37:25,57 --> 01:37:31,78 Between over there yet but. Are you sure if you want to just it depends you know 1144 01:37:31,79 --> 01:37:38,50 you can see. It. Moving line item 1145 01:37:38,50 --> 01:37:45,08 . Designated cities voting delegate at the annual League of Cities meeting. 1146 01:37:47,25 --> 01:37:51,28 Each year the league of California cities request that each council each city 1147 01:37:51,50 --> 01:37:52,05 doesn't need 1148 01:37:52,06 --> 01:37:57,03 a voting delegate or an alternative alternate to vote at the league California 1149 01:37:57,04 --> 01:38:02,76 cities policies are at the annual meeting and you mean this year for the legalities 1150 01:38:02,77 --> 01:38:08,45 of this is in San Francisco and I know Council members was really has stated he was 1151 01:38:08,46 --> 01:38:14,65 interested in attending that conference. In the past this action and get really 1152 01:38:14,66 --> 01:38:19,23 back up this action has to be taken by the city council directly asked me by 1153 01:38:19,24 --> 01:38:26,02 a vote because we register that and any voting delegates are there alternatives 1154 01:38:26,93 --> 01:38:28,93 are noted and or receive 1155 01:38:28,94 --> 01:38:35,50 a special voting delegation. I guess voting paddle and are so 1156 01:38:36,47 --> 01:38:40,23 segregated from the rest of the audience when the league goes into the actual 1157 01:38:40,24 --> 01:38:46,93 voting on the various policies adoption Some years it's very perfunctory. Certainly 1158 01:38:46,94 --> 01:38:52,83 have attended some meetings where this whole voting thing has extended for hours on 1159 01:38:52,84 --> 01:38:59,51 controversial issues. It's amazing how dynamic the state is and in its political 1160 01:38:59,52 --> 01:39:03,73 stance and it's certainly demonstrated on how different cities act on various 1161 01:39:03,74 --> 01:39:08,71 issues including internal policy of the league so any way the items in front of you 1162 01:39:08,72 --> 01:39:15,66 for your action. It's really up to you this year I mean last year I did not attend 1163 01:39:15,67 --> 01:39:20,04 the League conference as we have in the past and I believe last year only council 1164 01:39:20,05 --> 01:39:25,00 member was or attended we did not help last year we waved to did not go to San 1165 01:39:25,01 --> 01:39:26,79 Diego because it was not cost effective and in 1166 01:39:26,80 --> 01:39:30,41 a proper fest the spent fuel into that I'm remembering the past you know this is 1167 01:39:30,42 --> 01:39:35,78 not so the world will not come to an end if we don't have anyone there to vote on 1168 01:39:35,79 --> 01:39:40,16 it I don't know what's on the even being proposed for voting by the league this 1169 01:39:40,17 --> 01:39:44,92 year but our focus has been predominately on still trying to resolve state issues 1170 01:39:44,96 --> 01:39:49,97 in their problem with their own budget so that's my staff report it's your choice 1171 01:39:50,06 --> 01:39:56,44 so you want to proceed with this. Just so everyone knows Dean has been our voting 1172 01:39:56,45 --> 01:40:02,29 delegate or two or three how many. 1173 01:40:03,95 --> 01:40:09,15 Who are anyway so we didn't even know there were times it was three or four of us 1174 01:40:09,15 --> 01:40:13,96 at the meeting was the one that. Stayed 1175 01:40:13,97 --> 01:40:17,46 a little longer because that part of the meeting of that conference goes later in 1176 01:40:17,47 --> 01:40:24,36 the day the most controversial was in San Diego about five years ago when 1177 01:40:24,36 --> 01:40:31,25 . All of us except for Bill Bertie could not we attended and 1178 01:40:31,26 --> 01:40:36,10 he stayed home and I was the voting delegate in their three caucuses they were 1179 01:40:36,11 --> 01:40:42,19 requesting they have voting powers which turned out to be so controversial that it 1180 01:40:42,20 --> 01:40:47,43 was amazing and everybody left saying bye you see you later. And the nice part 1181 01:40:47,44 --> 01:40:52,67 about that was is that we had to leave because this Saturday was the bison it was 1182 01:40:52,68 --> 01:40:54,76 right in Kenya that's the city and we had 1183 01:40:54,77 --> 01:41:00,42 a city that's right and we had to cook hot dogs and hamburgers for the city's. Rest 1184 01:41:00,43 --> 01:41:04,62 of the council had to get back here the not the decision to meeting and down there 1185 01:41:04,93 --> 01:41:06,49 I got to carry on a conversation with 1186 01:41:06,50 --> 01:41:11,82 a Nigerian cab driver to the airport it was good anyway I think it's important if 1187 01:41:11,83 --> 01:41:15,94 anybody really wants to go to this because this this you got a little taste of 1188 01:41:15,95 --> 01:41:20,43 a League of Cities when we went down to the training earlier this year this one 1189 01:41:20,92 --> 01:41:25,37 will be three and it's three days but there is classes on numerous things you can 1190 01:41:25,38 --> 01:41:32,23 go to your date can be fool or. Beginning to end it's really neat to get in 1191 01:41:32,24 --> 01:41:35,45 there and learn the different aspects in you you know more than one goes you can 1192 01:41:35,46 --> 01:41:40,38 cover more areas with the last one we all set this same room heard the same thing 1193 01:41:40,82 --> 01:41:45,37 this is divided up into different classes so anybody wants to go if we can figure 1194 01:41:45,38 --> 01:41:45,49 out 1195 01:41:45,50 --> 01:41:51,02 a way to squeeze it out of the budget. People should go I've been to two or three 1196 01:41:51,03 --> 01:41:55,67 of them in navy and they're well they're worth it or are they are very interested 1197 01:41:55,68 --> 01:42:00,06 in the news going to their very own informational field it does over I think 1198 01:42:00,07 --> 01:42:04,99 a fantastic job opening and then your conference on for all their members which is 1199 01:42:05,00 --> 01:42:09,13 all the cities in California it's are SEPTA what is September the next fiscal year 1200 01:42:09,92 --> 01:42:13,38 and next fiscal year next fiscal year you'll be talking about that budget to my 1201 01:42:13,39 --> 01:42:18,74 just from our Ok it's it's September Wednesday September twenty first you have to 1202 01:42:18,75 --> 01:42:23,55 show up the twenty second Thursday and the voting is done on the twenty third 1203 01:42:23,56 --> 01:42:28,45 Friday and then you come home so it's Wednesday the twenty first twenty second and 1204 01:42:28,46 --> 01:42:32,93 then Friday is the voting and then you return it's in San Francisco I just missed 1205 01:42:32,94 --> 01:42:38,21 going he said. And they do cover a lot and you will there's also 1206 01:42:38,22 --> 01:42:42,90 a trade show in the middle of all of it and you can go into the the main hall and 1207 01:42:42,91 --> 01:42:47,83 see all of the vendors that sell the cities and see all the new products and. 1208 01:42:47,83 --> 01:42:52,15 Really interestingly looking for street lights down you could go see all the 1209 01:42:52,16 --> 01:42:56,94 different vendors to understand what they had and I was there that's where Dean 1210 01:42:56,95 --> 01:43:03,27 found out about. The personal permeable concrete rice and Humboldt County they have 1211 01:43:03,27 --> 01:43:08,00 . But you know it's things like that you know stuff when you get out and get around 1212 01:43:08,02 --> 01:43:09,15 these people you can learn 1213 01:43:09,15 --> 01:43:13,97 a lot something that I think about. But at this time what we're going to do is we 1214 01:43:13,99 --> 01:43:16,72 have to pick at we can all go do it if we can come up with a money or 1215 01:43:16,72 --> 01:43:18,29 a couple of us but we do need to pick 1216 01:43:18,29 --> 01:43:23,95 a person to stick around on Saturday to represent the city with. A voting delegate 1217 01:43:23,99 --> 01:43:29,71 and an alternate we could do that yes. Well I just am OK 1218 01:43:29,71 --> 01:43:32,64 . We're not making 1219 01:43:32,65 --> 01:43:37,93 a decision yet. You know why should open public comment and one reason I'm 1220 01:43:37,94 --> 01:43:40,33 a little always have a problem with this is because for 1221 01:43:40,34 --> 01:43:46,27 a long time we open public comment before the Council talked and we used to be 1222 01:43:46,28 --> 01:43:48,26 a lot of flak for talking 1223 01:43:48,27 --> 01:43:51,79 a lot afterwards so I've been trying to get the council to get the talking out of 1224 01:43:51,80 --> 01:43:55,33 the ways with the public can chime in on what we've talked about instead of the 1225 01:43:55,34 --> 01:43:59,19 other way around but by doing that it put me right up against the wire so I keep 1226 01:43:59,32 --> 01:44:05,33 getting the opening comments. For that so I'd like open public comment right now if 1227 01:44:05,34 --> 01:44:11,81 anyone like to speak on this. To close public on the second 1228 01:44:11,81 --> 01:44:18,67 . Or not second that might be conflict of interest. You can see at. The movies 1229 01:44:18,68 --> 01:44:23,09 they're going to close but we comment all in favor saying the privacy and I. O's 1230 01:44:24,71 --> 01:44:27,80 closed. The B.R. 1231 01:44:27,81 --> 01:44:34,66 Alternate actually going on just to see you know the 1232 01:44:34,92 --> 01:44:38,99 process works and everything I would like to add something to but I think that's 1233 01:44:39,03 --> 01:44:43,93 right after my daughter's wedding I think I'm not going to be. Just going to have 1234 01:44:43,94 --> 01:44:47,73 to do some work at my real job but I didn't it doesn't bother me to have another 1235 01:44:47,74 --> 01:44:48,31 person serve as 1236 01:44:48,32 --> 01:44:54,68 a delegate you know I rather share it let everybody experience it. But last year 1237 01:44:54,68 --> 01:44:59,53 . Dennis got up and said You know I think we should have 1238 01:44:59,54 --> 01:45:03,36 a representative but I said that the cost factor was so far down there and they 1239 01:45:03,37 --> 01:45:07,07 really didn't vote I think it was important and you really don't know what's going 1240 01:45:07,08 --> 01:45:09,43 to be brought up at the last minute as 1241 01:45:09,44 --> 01:45:13,48 a proposal so there might be some sneaky little thing that might affect us might 1242 01:45:13,49 --> 01:45:19,93 not affect us. But the distance is not that bad it's not that controversial. And I 1243 01:45:19,94 --> 01:45:26,57 think it would actually embrace. A couple members going. It is 1244 01:45:26,58 --> 01:45:31,94 a lot of fun and I said the classes sometimes the classes are redundant and other 1245 01:45:31,95 --> 01:45:36,12 times the classes are interesting because you know who the council person might be 1246 01:45:36,13 --> 01:45:42,28 or city manager teaching it and doing that hour's discussion and that's also 1247 01:45:42,29 --> 01:45:47,41 a chance to. Co-partner with people you've met in the past find out what they've 1248 01:45:47,42 --> 01:45:52,03 been doing because we've actually had been helped by finding out new ideas that 1249 01:45:52,04 --> 01:45:55,35 we've never thought about and somebody has already experienced that done it walked 1250 01:45:55,48 --> 01:46:01,83 in and we get to learn from their expertise and we get to apply it so. However we 1251 01:46:01,84 --> 01:46:03,14 network it's 1252 01:46:03,15 --> 01:46:10,05 a win win win and so. If you want to have two of us go I'd definitely like to 1253 01:46:10,06 --> 01:46:10,38 be 1254 01:46:10,92 --> 01:46:15,59 a voting delegate or if Mike wants to be they want to stays and I can jump ship be 1255 01:46:15,60 --> 01:46:21,51 able faster that's even better. No I just assume him have you be the voting 1256 01:46:21,52 --> 01:46:26,36 delegate I would just like to see how that process works and you said you have not 1257 01:46:26,82 --> 01:46:33,36 been. You want to go you're welcome to go so therefore I made the motion. 1258 01:46:33,83 --> 01:46:34,91 To designate 1259 01:46:35,80 --> 01:46:41,39 a council member being the laws are those who are voting delegate delegate and Mike 1260 01:46:41,47 --> 01:46:46,13 council member My closely is our first alternate and council members and the mayor 1261 01:46:46,14 --> 01:46:51,48 pro tem is our second alternate for the annual league of California cities meeting 1262 01:46:51,48 --> 01:46:57,41 . Also I couldn't. In any discussion and 1263 01:46:57,41 --> 01:47:04,06 . It's been moved and seconded to nominate being lodgers are voting delegate 1264 01:47:04,31 --> 01:47:10,13 and that can then the in Mike. Willesee as our alternate and it's 1265 01:47:10,14 --> 01:47:16,89 a voice vote so I'm in favor signify by saying I. O's. Asked 1266 01:47:17,21 --> 01:47:21,12 talk to Linda. But 1267 01:47:21,12 --> 01:47:27,28 . Travels are 1268 01:47:27,28 --> 01:47:34,24 . A flyer on land so yes yes. There are some that we'll have to get you 1269 01:47:34,25 --> 01:47:39,77 some it had they've had some good updates where the lodging is or you think they're 1270 01:47:39,78 --> 01:47:45,90 even started. After octopi very crazy 1271 01:47:46,88 --> 01:47:51,21 but you only do. Maybe a trailer on Mission Street might be 1272 01:47:51,22 --> 01:47:58,05 a better. Yeah. Let's let's move on before we get in trouble here. 1273 01:47:58,05 --> 01:48:04,89 Did you do the next is the city managers report the way no thank you 1274 01:48:04,89 --> 01:48:10,83 . You have my written report of the upcoming particular council meetings that we 1275 01:48:10,83 --> 01:48:11,83 have and 1276 01:48:11,83 --> 01:48:18,47 a reminder tomorrow. And maybe even Wednesday depending on how much we get done 1277 01:48:18,48 --> 01:48:22,09 tomorrow is our budget workshop with the council it won't be 1278 01:48:22,10 --> 01:48:26,13 a televised meeting but it will be here in the public's invited and we're starting 1279 01:48:26,14 --> 01:48:27,20 at four P.M. 1280 01:48:27,20 --> 01:48:33,93 . And going into all you say you're done or until we continue it into 1281 01:48:33,94 --> 01:48:39,22 Wednesday if necessary then the next council me will be on Tuesday next regular 1282 01:48:39,23 --> 01:48:44,31 meeting will be on Tuesday July fifth way because Monday that the fourth of is 1283 01:48:44,32 --> 01:48:49,08 a holiday for the city. Other than that we're going forward with our regular 1284 01:48:49,09 --> 01:48:55,73 meetings and as I mentioned one July fifth I didn't mention on July fifth You also 1285 01:48:55,74 --> 01:48:59,37 have a special council me scheduled for eight thirty A.M. 1286 01:48:59,38 --> 01:49:05,39 On that. On that Tuesday morning to take up on the workshop issue. 1287 01:49:07,07 --> 01:49:11,92 Other than that oh excuse me I've got to remember turning the page we have been 1288 01:49:11,96 --> 01:49:17,95 moving these proposed water and sewer rates for fiscal year two thousand and eleven 1289 01:49:17,96 --> 01:49:23,41 two thousand and twelve all the way through sixteen workshop for you to Monday July 1290 01:49:23,42 --> 01:49:28,74 twenty fifth so it's always often more hope to get you that information well in 1291 01:49:28,75 --> 01:49:29,61 advance so you have 1292 01:49:29,62 --> 01:49:34,71 a couple weeks to study it and again now what waste is that what we're going what 1293 01:49:34,72 --> 01:49:40,10 staff is going to present to you as several different alternative ways to look at 1294 01:49:40,66 --> 01:49:47,30 water sewer rates for the next five years. Other than I have no other issues or 1295 01:49:47,31 --> 01:49:52,63 items to bring forward to you continue to amaze me again this year that the states 1296 01:49:52,64 --> 01:49:56,99 in Bolivia to adopt a budget or even get 1297 01:49:57,00 --> 01:50:01,77 a budget propose that makes sense but other than that I have no other comments if 1298 01:50:01,78 --> 01:50:07,35 you have some questions I may be can answer. Any questions or doing. 1299 01:50:09,37 --> 01:50:16,17 You know one two city council report and comment as to why. Thank you Mr Mayor 1300 01:50:16,17 --> 01:50:22,89 . I attended the Environmental Quality committee meeting 1301 01:50:22,93 --> 01:50:29,09 on the seventeenth both the sixteenth and the seventeenth prior to the meeting time 1302 01:50:29,65 --> 01:50:33,89 the league California cities want to actually have those committees get together 1303 01:50:33,90 --> 01:50:39,63 for an informational. Statement by Chris 1304 01:50:40,40 --> 01:50:45,14 McKenzie the executive director for California Cities like a California cities is 1305 01:50:45,15 --> 01:50:51,50 a joint powers authority we belong to and it is very very beneficial for us they 1306 01:50:51,51 --> 01:50:51,74 are 1307 01:50:51,75 --> 01:50:55,62 a partner for representation in the state capitol they go and talk to the politicians 1308 01:50:55,63 --> 01:51:02,28 directly we have our say based on what are our votes our. As all of us know 1309 01:51:03,06 --> 01:51:09,24 last November two thousand and ten we voted past Prop twenty two which was to 1310 01:51:09,25 --> 01:51:15,32 prevent the legislators from taking from public safety redevelopment and 1311 01:51:15,33 --> 01:51:22,32 transportation. Transportation and and public safety been off the grid although 1312 01:51:22,33 --> 01:51:26,23 there are some things for public safety that has been usurped in our our budget 1313 01:51:26,24 --> 01:51:30,97 will be talking about is going to actually reflect that but redevelopment. 1314 01:51:31,01 --> 01:51:36,49 Constitutional amendment letter of the law don't mess with the Constitution and 1315 01:51:36,50 --> 01:51:42,01 unfortunately two of our representatives Assemblyman just Breaux and Senator Evans 1316 01:51:42,02 --> 01:51:48,45 voted yes on abolishing redevelopment so all you Democrats out there that think 1317 01:51:48,46 --> 01:51:53,78 these people walk on water I got news for you they took money away from you that 1318 01:51:53,83 --> 01:51:59,55 actually provides the funding for mandated housing units that we are forced down 1319 01:51:59,56 --> 01:52:06,36 our throats to provide for low income. Housing and I'm curious to find out whether 1320 01:52:06,88 --> 01:52:12,56 if if. When I keep on discussing later if it does happen whether we get to renege 1321 01:52:12,57 --> 01:52:16,93 on any mandates by the state legislature that those numbers are flushed down the 1322 01:52:16,94 --> 01:52:23,74 toilet we can we start off with zero. But anyway Chris MacKenzie pointed out that 1323 01:52:23,74 --> 01:52:29,12 . We built twenty six and twenty seven as well as Senate bill fourteen and fifteen 1324 01:52:29,59 --> 01:52:35,59 for funding of redevelopment. That should have been 1325 01:52:36,58 --> 01:52:40,27 never voted on and allowed to pass they were 1326 01:52:40,87 --> 01:52:46,14 a yes vote strictly straight Democrat Party saying yes in the Republican stood 1327 01:52:46,15 --> 01:52:51,61 their ground said no but the numbers were against them and they lost. These two 1328 01:52:51,62 --> 01:52:53,54 bills just the A.B. 1329 01:52:53,55 --> 01:52:59,32 And that in the Senate's bills are something that because the budget was vetoed by 1330 01:52:59,33 --> 01:53:06,05 the governor that they are pretty much standing alone. Constitutionally legally 1331 01:53:06,06 --> 01:53:06,93 they cannot as 1332 01:53:06,94 --> 01:53:13,13 a legislature. Introduce these bills or put them on trail or bills that they have 1333 01:53:13,14 --> 01:53:18,42 to be reintroduced once the budget is produced as approved by the governor and 1334 01:53:18,43 --> 01:53:22,17 signed so that might happen in the next two weeks might happen in the next six 1335 01:53:22,18 --> 01:53:27,69 weeks but whenever the governor signs the final budget then the redevelopment bills 1336 01:53:27,69 --> 01:53:34,14 . Didn't I redevelopment will be presented and that is when the League of 1337 01:53:34,15 --> 01:53:37,70 California is currently to California cities plans to file 1338 01:53:37,74 --> 01:53:43,28 a lawsuit against the state of California in the Supreme Court of California and 1339 01:53:43,29 --> 01:53:48,42 contested and I've been saying after the very get go that that they should 1340 01:53:48,43 --> 01:53:50,96 aggressively have done this with rather trying trying to find 1341 01:53:50,97 --> 01:53:55,25 a middle ground and make concessions about paying the school property taxes and so 1342 01:53:55,26 --> 01:54:00,20 forth which is totally wrong so I'm looking forward to the next month what it 1343 01:54:00,21 --> 01:54:05,78 provides and I'm looking forward to see what kind of squirming and squealing bro 1344 01:54:05,79 --> 01:54:10,81 and Evans will be doing because they did this wrong and everybody this elected 1345 01:54:10,82 --> 01:54:15,66 official needs to tell them that. I do want to go back 1346 01:54:15,90 --> 01:54:22,47 a little bit to what I said in public statement about Jerry Grier I mean. A year 1347 01:54:22,48 --> 01:54:28,90 ago when he was elected as first vice commander he really didn't see the magnitude 1348 01:54:28,91 --> 01:54:33,19 of what disposition represents I saw it. Being 1349 01:54:33,20 --> 01:54:37,46 a political figure I don't I still don't feel myself as being any different than 1350 01:54:37,47 --> 01:54:43,04 anybody else walking on the streets outside. But looking at your Agree or he's he's 1351 01:54:43,05 --> 01:54:50,00 one individual. That was potentially going to be come commander. 1352 01:54:50,00 --> 01:54:55,50 Last June twelfth on Sunday in Concord there was that potential chance that 1353 01:54:55,51 --> 01:54:59,56 somebody would run against him during their years period of time he flew all over 1354 01:54:59,57 --> 01:55:04,21 the United States went to training back East was representing the league 1355 01:55:04,48 --> 01:55:10,97 representing the AMVETS and he showed to those officials in M.P.'s that he could do 1356 01:55:10,98 --> 01:55:15,92 the job he was potentially do that job. In Concord there were one hundred thirty 1357 01:55:15,93 --> 01:55:22,59 delegates not one person ran against him he was uncontested and I just the 1358 01:55:22,60 --> 01:55:27,62 magnitude of that position is just awesome there's only one president at United 1359 01:55:27,63 --> 01:55:33,24 States there's only one governor in California and those one jury Greer is 1360 01:55:33,25 --> 01:55:37,81 commander of ambit is just totally awesome and I keep on telling him that he's so 1361 01:55:37,82 --> 01:55:43,11 humble that is just incredible but I'm just delighted to have somebody living in 1362 01:55:43,12 --> 01:55:49,15 Fortuna that has that that prestigious name and what it means so 1363 01:55:50,12 --> 01:55:54,01 I'm not trying to grind it in the ground but it's awesome that he is he is one of 1364 01:55:54,02 --> 01:56:00,96 our citizens. Sue can reiterate on 1365 01:56:00,97 --> 01:56:07,11 this in July third the fireworks leave that lifeforce on Monday 1366 01:56:08,09 --> 01:56:08,49 there will be 1367 01:56:08,50 --> 01:56:13,67 a parade in Ferndale fortress like parade as is always everybody is invited to that 1368 01:56:14,60 --> 01:56:15,42 they're also be 1369 01:56:15,47 --> 01:56:20,23 a fireworks display at the whole county fairgrounds sponsored by casino thank you 1370 01:56:20,24 --> 01:56:26,23 very much for doing that wonderful public gesture and say thank you to them when 1371 01:56:26,24 --> 01:56:32,83 you go up to this casino because they don't get enough thank yous. Some of the 1372 01:56:32,84 --> 01:56:38,97 comments that were made at the the the meeting there was one stand we built was 1373 01:56:38,98 --> 01:56:44,42 trying to be promoted that was actually for private garbage companies that they 1374 01:56:44,43 --> 01:56:48,59 would not be allowed to prevent other communities from coming in and bringing in 1375 01:56:48,60 --> 01:56:54,81 their waste their solid waste. They were worried that that if we were to want to 1376 01:56:54,82 --> 01:56:59,69 take our solid waste and go to Anderson that they can say no we're not going to 1377 01:56:59,70 --> 01:57:04,01 take it and if you had enough of those private enterprises doing that not public 1378 01:57:04,02 --> 01:57:07,28 because publics not affected by this but if you had 1379 01:57:07,29 --> 01:57:12,04 a private private garbage company the said no before long you might be wandering 1380 01:57:12,05 --> 01:57:15,42 from Fortune always down to San Diego if you were lucky to find someplace to 1381 01:57:15,43 --> 01:57:21,07 receive it so it was considered controversial. But if you're 1382 01:57:21,08 --> 01:57:23,76 a private enterprise you definitely don't want to make money you're not going to 1383 01:57:23,77 --> 01:57:29,64 turn away somebody that wants to make money off of your refuse but anyway that's 1384 01:57:29,70 --> 01:57:36,53 going through the. Discussion and there was one. We also discussed 1385 01:57:37,43 --> 01:57:42,14 about marijuana cultivation and how that would have an effect on your community and 1386 01:57:43,01 --> 01:57:49,47 Mark Wheatley from Archita provided his input to that let them know how that 1387 01:57:49,70 --> 01:57:52,98 affected them and how what their jurisdictions in each one of the jurisdictions the 1388 01:57:52,99 --> 01:57:56,93 cities provided their input about how they determine it was a code issue or 1389 01:57:56,94 --> 01:58:00,61 a zoning issue or so forth so anyway Mr Mayor it was 1390 01:58:00,62 --> 01:58:06,12 a good trip hot place to be but it was well worth it getting information from Chris 1391 01:58:06,13 --> 01:58:12,91 McKenzie thank you. I haven't 1392 01:58:12,92 --> 01:58:18,40 attended any of my. Council meetings but I have been attending the Fortuna 1393 01:58:18,41 --> 01:58:22,07 fireworks festival meetings and that's coming on well 1394 01:58:22,15 --> 01:58:26,65 a letter was sent out via e-mail to several businesses to see if they wanted to 1395 01:58:26,66 --> 01:58:32,11 contribute to the program and how to do that if they so desired. One thing that was 1396 01:58:32,12 --> 01:58:33,43 omitted from the letter was 1397 01:58:33,47 --> 01:58:38,46 a deadline as to getting your logo on the poster so we are going to need donations 1398 01:58:38,47 --> 01:58:42,98 tomorrow I'll have time to get posters around town in time for them to mean 1399 01:58:42,99 --> 01:58:46,38 anything to notify the public that there is an event on July third. 1400 01:58:50,48 --> 01:58:56,54 The donations will affect how many donations we get will affect how much we're 1401 01:58:56,55 --> 01:59:00,68 going to charge this year for the the response for the kids last year they were 1402 01:59:00,69 --> 01:59:07,50 free the committee. Decided that the event needs to pay for itself between what we 1403 01:59:07,51 --> 01:59:13,04 can raise at the event and. Donations by businesses and then the generous donation 1404 01:59:13,05 --> 01:59:18,13 by Hopsin humble we felt we needed to charge this year so that we can make it pay 1405 01:59:18,14 --> 01:59:24,47 for itself and. The fire works so. We increased our from 1406 01:59:25,10 --> 01:59:28,28 five thousand dollars so to a seven thousand dollars show which is quite 1407 01:59:28,29 --> 01:59:32,83 a bit it's almost double the fireworks so that was the thought behind it so there 1408 01:59:32,84 --> 01:59:36,98 will be a charge this year for the wrist bands we're thinking two dollars 1409 01:59:36,99 --> 01:59:41,75 a kid but that's going to depend on how many. Donations we get from the community 1410 01:59:42,15 --> 01:59:43,84 so if you haven't got 1411 01:59:43,85 --> 01:59:50,29 a letter you can call me or you can see and he's also on the committee and will get 1412 01:59:50,30 --> 01:59:53,07 you a letter or you can just send money to P.O. 1413 01:59:53,08 --> 01:59:59,61 Box for ninety one for tonight thanks. Yeah so I saw that letter and there was 1414 01:59:59,62 --> 02:00:06,42 a list of donors attached to it were those last year's donors were those the donors 1415 02:00:06,43 --> 02:00:10,20 that have already contribute this year those were just 1416 02:00:10,21 --> 02:00:13,84 a list of people that got e-mailed a letter but it had 1417 02:00:13,85 --> 02:00:20,60 a dollar figure with. Each of the businesses and the civic 1418 02:00:20,61 --> 02:00:25,67 organizations. But it really didn't explain it I was thinking well maybe that's 1419 02:00:25,68 --> 02:00:29,99 those are the folks that contributed last year. Or we have 1420 02:00:30,00 --> 02:00:36,76 a lot of people that are east it up and provided donations this year. But anyway 1421 02:00:36,76 --> 02:00:41,24 . There wasn't anything attached unless you were one of the ones I got the letter 1422 02:00:41,25 --> 02:00:48,06 that I sent wrong in the first place. I'm. Broken record I 1423 02:00:48,07 --> 02:00:51,36 said something out that was from two thousand and ten and there had to rescind and 1424 02:00:51,37 --> 02:00:58,03 say ignore the previous. That might be what you got. 1425 02:00:58,28 --> 02:01:02,84 So far we've only received two donations for this year but like I said the letters 1426 02:01:02,85 --> 02:01:04,58 just went out and I would check the box for 1427 02:01:04,59 --> 02:01:11,91 a couple days. If 1428 02:01:11,92 --> 02:01:15,29 you missed them. The latest F. 1429 02:01:15,30 --> 02:01:18,34 Big meeting was on June the first and although I didn't attend I had 1430 02:01:18,35 --> 02:01:23,37 a court hearing that I had to attend I have since than talked to Dan and crew the 1431 02:01:23,38 --> 02:01:29,10 director and received some information from her with regard to that meeting. Over 1432 02:01:29,11 --> 02:01:31,25 the last several months F.B.I. 1433 02:01:31,26 --> 02:01:34,64 Has been looking or it or of the board has been discussing 1434 02:01:35,58 --> 02:01:42,43 a search for larger quarters. The office over at the Monte club's somewhat small 1435 02:01:42,86 --> 02:01:48,41 addition they were looking for some place that they could also use for storage they 1436 02:01:48,42 --> 02:01:49,07 have apparently 1437 02:01:49,08 --> 02:01:55,69 a lot of assigning engine in batteries and things of that nature and at one point 1438 02:01:56,41 --> 02:02:00,48 Redwood Capital Bank had made an offer to allow F.B.I. 1439 02:02:01,05 --> 02:02:06,45 To use one or two of those offices now they can at their bank and that was 1440 02:02:06,46 --> 02:02:09,53 a discussion that went on between the board it was for 1441 02:02:09,54 --> 02:02:13,24 a one year. Agreement only 1442 02:02:13,31 --> 02:02:19,28 a hand and bid the directors felt that because of the only offer for 1443 02:02:19,29 --> 02:02:26,24 a one year period would be sufficient so they did decline that I think that for now 1444 02:02:26,25 --> 02:02:31,12 they're they're probably going to stay right where they're at the F.B.I. 1445 02:02:31,13 --> 02:02:36,34 Budget was approved and they have approved some funding to be going to various 1446 02:02:36,35 --> 02:02:42,71 businesses in town to help with the promotions of the various events such as. That 1447 02:02:43,38 --> 02:02:50,18 Clinton's Apple. Orchard for the apple festival and different events of that type 1448 02:02:50,18 --> 02:02:56,99 . Of the chamber board seat representative will change from. 1449 02:02:56,99 --> 02:03:02,58 Peter Kruger to Dan Webber Kevin Johnson will remain as the downtown representative 1450 02:03:02,58 --> 02:03:08,59 . And there were some other changes some other representatives and 1451 02:03:09,40 --> 02:03:11,64 beginning next month hopefully there will be 1452 02:03:11,65 --> 02:03:16,99 a report from the motel businesses in town and Diana crew will give that particular 1453 02:03:17,06 --> 02:03:22,48 report outlining any anything that they might have going 1454 02:03:22,48 --> 02:03:29,37 . Thank you. 1455 02:03:29,54 --> 02:03:36,48 Thank you Mayor. Just an item on the agenda I 1456 02:03:36,49 --> 02:03:41,80 appreciate you keeping me on the California Coastal Commission but the governor of 1457 02:03:41,81 --> 02:03:47,25 the state has made it very clear that myself and four under other members are no 1458 02:03:47,26 --> 02:03:53,88 longer members of the California Coastal Commission so if you can take me off 1459 02:03:53,89 --> 02:04:00,74 there. I don't have to leave and. You know 1460 02:04:00,75 --> 02:04:01,56 then that I didn't have 1461 02:04:01,57 --> 02:04:08,81 a Lefkow meeting sensor last the other raining. 1462 02:04:08,81 --> 02:04:10,79 Harder next meeting is 1463 02:04:11,69 --> 02:04:17,88 a Wednesday July twentieth. Thank you 1464 02:04:19,02 --> 02:04:23,54 and for me the last couple weeks since we met last it's been really nice I've been 1465 02:04:23,54 --> 02:04:24,28 able to attend 1466 02:04:24,29 --> 02:04:31,14 a lot of family and friends type events but no city business in the Thursday 1467 02:04:31,15 --> 02:04:36,81 though I will be attending the homo County Association of governments meeting 1468 02:04:36,81 --> 02:04:43,46 . So that's all I have to report anything out anyone might do. 1469 02:04:44,75 --> 02:04:49,02 OK then moving on to. Be 1470 02:04:49,03 --> 02:04:55,45 a close session coming up. Well comments from the public and members of the public 1471 02:04:55,46 --> 02:05:00,13 may be heard on any item on closed session speakers address the council or board be 1472 02:05:00,14 --> 02:05:03,26 limited to three minutes per speaker be advised that by 1473 02:05:03,27 --> 02:05:08,83 a line neither the city council nor the board is able to deliberate or take action 1474 02:05:08,84 --> 02:05:15,77 on issues presented during oral comment. The session items number one 1475 02:05:15,78 --> 02:05:16,99 is a close session item 1476 02:05:17,00 --> 02:05:21,19 a conference of labor negotiation with the city negotiator the city manager of the 1477 02:05:21,20 --> 02:05:26,78 Wayne Brady employees organization Petunia Employees Association for two new Police 1478 02:05:26,83 --> 02:05:33,39 Association and the city are for simply as Association the cordons Wisc Section 1479 02:05:33,57 --> 02:05:39,87 five four nine five seven point six of the government code. The second item is 1480 02:05:39,88 --> 02:05:44,43 a closed session to discuss public employees performance evaluation and court 1481 02:05:44,60 --> 02:05:51,42 Section five four nine five seven of the government code. Title the city manager 1482 02:05:52,02 --> 02:05:58,98 under this. I don't know. The council will be not discussing anything that 1483 02:05:58,99 --> 02:06:03,45 has to do with any public complaints that have been filed at this particular 1484 02:06:03,46 --> 02:06:08,88 meeting. There's other items in the evaluation that we'll be discussing this time 1485 02:06:08,89 --> 02:06:14,76 is anyone from the public like to speak on any of these items. 1486 02:06:16,63 --> 02:06:20,76 To close public coming second the motion has been moved and seconded because the 1487 02:06:20,77 --> 02:06:26,24 public comment period on Fed signify was an act. Oh Mr Mayor I make 1488 02:06:26,25 --> 02:06:31,97 a motion to close this meeting. Being larger has made a motion to beating in 1489 02:06:31,98 --> 02:06:32,48 a journey to 1490 02:06:32,49 --> 02:06:38,96 a closed session and it. Closes movies do is I'm sorry let me reiterate on that 1491 02:06:39,37 --> 02:06:41,06 going to do it right I'd like to make 1492 02:06:41,07 --> 02:06:45,02 a motion to close the this public meeting and adjourn to 1493 02:06:45,03 --> 02:06:49,77 a closed session and that after we're done with that close session will return back 1494 02:06:49,94 --> 02:06:55,87 to publicly tell what decisions have been. Saget so I get 1495 02:06:55,87 --> 02:06:59,57 . To do it during this meeting to a closed session on 1496 02:06:59,58 --> 02:07:03,81 a favorite thing if I'm saying I. Owes. You or your.