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Call the order the Fortuna City Council and the Fortuna Redevelopment Agencies

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Monday June 20th 2011 meeting please stand for the flag salute. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

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Roll call please Linda. Councilmember Glazer. Yes. Councilmember Long. Here. Councilmember Lozey. Here. Mayor Potemzanze. Here. Mayor Stroud. Here.

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Second on the agenda is going to be a presentation of the water and sewer bill process presented by our Assistant City Manager Nicholson and Account Clerk 3 Henry.

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Thank you Mayor and members of the council. We appreciate the staff appreciates a chance to come here and explain this process to you because there have been some questions about it recently.

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You know me Rachel Henry is our account clerk 3 and she does most of the work the utility billing process. So she's going to help as we go through a typical procedure from the bill to when it would be shut off if nothing were done to stop that.

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And I'd like to ask if we could leave part of the lights on so that you'll be able to see the calendars we have we have both low tech and high tech for you tonight. But I think the visual will be helpful in understanding the process and the notices that we're providing.

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Can I get some of those lights turned back on John please.

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There you go. We can I think we can. Can you still see that. Let's go ahead on it then.

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As you all know the city of Fortuna's mission is to be worthy of the public trust by providing timely efficient dependable and well planned services to the community.

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We've developed a utility billing procedure that we that provides a standardized process for us that allows the city to carry out its mission statement and guarantees fair and equitable treatment for all of our customers.

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And we're going to go through that process here tonight from the time a bill goes out until the shut off period.

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And a typical billing or typical billing procedure the bill goes out on the 1st of month a we're going to use month a b and c that bill is due on the 30th of month a.

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This is the water sewer bill typical water sewer bill.

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This one would have been for May 30th that would have gone out on June 1st.

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I'm sorry on May 1st and it shows here that it is due on May 30th that's shown here and on here this was this would be the May 1st bill.

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If the bill for that month a is not paid by the 30th of month a the following month's bill for month b will include the past due amount and the current amount.

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Here you can see the previous balance right there that previous balance is now past due it was due on the 30th and there is also a current bill that is due by the 30th of the month.

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Now as you can already tell between month a month b and the crossover here it's a little bit complicated but hang in there with me and you can ask the questions at the end.

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I think by the time we get this all up here it's going to be a little clearer for everybody.

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If the past due amount again still for month a is not paid by the 11th of month b a red and white reminder notice is sent through the mail in an envelope it's not a postcard.

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This is the reminder notice this is the front of the reminder notice it says has your water bill been overlooked your account is overdue your payment is late.

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And then on the reverse side it goes over the procedure where they're at letting them know that they have a past due bill that they are in danger of having their service disconnected discontinued.

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And then gives them a date of the 25th by which time they need to get this bill paid.

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This would be the and then it gives them the number here of what they need to do if they have any questions this is also telling them that if they don't get this bill paid on time that they're looking at a late penalty and a reconnect fee.

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Here's where we get into the small print a little bit if the past due amount for month a is still not paid by the 25th of month b on the 26th of month b the finance department runs an in-house delinquent list and it's a 10% late fee is added to the past two amount for month a.

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And I'd like Rachel to expand on this a little bit with our calendar.

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On occasion we have the 25th might fall on a weekend in this case for month b it does we will allow the customer the full business day on the 26th to remit their payment to avoid the late penalty.

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So we actually won't run that list and apply late fees until the next business day which in our example would be the 27th.

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And I just wanted to show you that because we do try and do everything in the customer's favor we're never going to penalize anybody for a due date falling on a weekend or holiday so the procedures that were giving you and the dates are typical but they they can sometimes swing in the customer's favor.

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Okay here we go on the first Wednesday following the 26th of the month the process for the hand delivering the yellow door hangers begins and this process is usually completed within a couple days by the time a customer receives this door notice door hanger the account is past due for month a and month b will be due in a couple of days.

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Okay but the door hanger is only for month a we're only tracking month a here did you want to add anything on that Rachel.

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On the 1st of month see another bill will go out this is for month c which is due on the 30th of month c but this bill includes the past two amount for month a including a late fee the past two amount for month b and the current amount due for month c.

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And part of what we're trying to show you is the number of communications the city makes with the customers before the shut off happens.

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In this example to on month c on occasion it's our goal to get our bills out on or as close to the 1st as possible obviously the 1st fell on a Saturday and month c so we mailed our bills out on Monday the 3rd.

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This is a door hanger or part of a door hanger that goes out now these are all handwritten and hand delivered by the utility crew you'll notice this has a shut off date in this case this one is the 5th of month c.

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It's marked that it's being shut off for non payment of an account amount due and in this space it would show the past two amount and any late fees that are due.

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It also importantly explains to the people that payment arrangements must be made by 10 a.m. of the shut off date or reconnection fee will apply this 10 a.m. is an important time and there's a reason for it I'm going to explain it here in a minute so keep that in mind that's that's on there.

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It also shows them that they can call again to make payment arrangements if they need to and the number for them to call.

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Right it is filled in I didn't put that number and thank you Mike Flockhart is our utility utility superintendent and he's here for backup to depending on the questions that come in about what they're doing out in the field.

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All right back to the procedure if the bill for month a is still not paid and the customer has not contacted the finance department and made appropriate payment arrangements on the 2nd Wednesday following the 26th on the 1st Wednesday the door hangers went out on the 2nd Wednesday following the 26th of month be the surface is considered to be disconnected as of 10 a.m.

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The disconnect time is always 10 a.m. regardless of when the water is physically turned off.

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This is because we could be disconnecting 2025 services and there is no way for us to disconnect simultaneously 25 services all at the same time so the time is established so that if someone services turned off at 10 o'clock or someone services turned off at 12 o'clock there's.

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There's no advantage to them it's the 10 o'clock you have to have your bill paid by then otherwise it's going to be considered disconnected that's the time.

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Despite the rumor city crews do not go out and turn the water off and then turn it right back on at the same time there may be instances where a customer is inside of city hall paying their bill on shut off day and they may be in here at 1030 or 11 o'clock that water has been that service is considered disconnected.

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And they are going to be responsible for the reconnect fee even if their water wasn't actually turned off in some cases we cannot call back the utility crew in time to get the water turned back on so it may never actually be turned off but once they reach that deadline of 10 a.m.

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That's it after four notices and 10 a.m. they're they're considered disconnected.

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As of 10 a.m. the service is considered disconnected and customers must pay a reconnect fee of seventy five dollars plus the entire past due amount of their bill including the late fee if the customer is shut off more than once the subsequent reconnect fee is increased to one hundred dollars if a customer did not pay a deposit to establish service or paid a deposit of less than one hundred and fifty dollars and their water is shut off more than two times within two years they will also be

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paid a deposit of up to one hundred and fifty dollars and I'd like Rachel to explain a little bit about the deposit.

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All new service requires one hundred and twenty five dollar deposit.

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We hold that deposit for a year if you have good standing with the city after a year it's refunded to your account.

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And someone is shut off more than twice in two years we then consider them a credit risk we hold a deposit as a reserve. I mean if they move or what have you. We don't want to be left holding all those months past due without some sort of a deposit on their account.

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What this does is it provides a little bit of a cushion if they do leave town or some other way do not pay their bill because the water service that we provide has to be paid for by someone and that deposit allows us to pull that money from that.

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Otherwise it's going to be paid by other customers because it costs the city so much to put that water out there. So the deposit helps to cover that once they have established the good credit they can get the deposit back.

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So to summarize in prior to shut off by the time customers water is disconnected for nonpayment of month a it is month C and the customer has received at least the following a bill for month a bill for month B.

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In some cases they will have received a bill for month C. They will have received a reminder notice for month a and they will receive have received a door hanger.

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So in any instance there's at least four communications from the city before water is shut off.

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Also in addition to that following receipt of the door hanger the customer still has a week after that to either pay the bill or make payment arrangements.

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Customers end up having at least 60 to 75 days from receipt of their bill to pay the bill to make payment or to make payment arrangements in order to avoid the shut off.

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Prior to shut off almost three months have passed the customer has received at least two bills at least one reminder notice and a door hanger.

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Customers have one week after receipt of the door hanger to pay the past due amount or make payment arrangements at any time up until 10 a.m.

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of shut off day the customer can either pay the past due bill or make appropriate payment arrangements to avoid service interruption and a reconnect fee.

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We actually end up doing very few shut offs per month. We send out we have 4,400 customers of those customers the city hand writes and hand delivers approximately 200 door hangers per month.

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Of those 200 door hangers only 20 to 22 in an average month actually have their service disconnected.

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This is less than one half of one percent of the total amount of our customers.

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The goal for this procedure is to make sure that everyone is treated the same that they're treated fairly and equitably.

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The city's billing procedure is designed so all customers receive the exact same due process by not making exceptions on a case by case basis everyone is treated fairly and equitably.

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Staff is also not put in a position of having to make special exceptions for any one customer.

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That's it in a nutshell we would be glad to answer your questions if you have any.

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Thank you Rachel.

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Council have any questions of staff.

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What if they're out of town at some point during that whole process when the door hanger goes out.

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I think they should have made arrangements beforehand just like they might have to do with their mail or their newspaper.

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However if they called the office because they suddenly realized.

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We would you know we would try to make arrangements but we're talking 75 days.

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That they'd have to do this you know even if before the door hanger they've already received three other notices at least.

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I think I think in some instances if somebody was actually going to leave for three four months is actually cost effective to actually request the city to shut the water off padlock it and then pay a reconnection fee.

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And they save a lot of money just by doing that but that's not very many people in the city but that's the way to jumble numbers and actually be cost conservative on part of the consumer.

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What I believe and Rachel you can correct me if I'm wrong is that most people who know that they're going to be traveling for a while will prepay their bills.

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We also don't require if you have a customer say you wanted to stop your service for a couple months we don't require you to pay a reconnect fee will actually shut your service off.

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And then when you come back you can have it turned back on.

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We've had we have people that go out of town a lot of times and those typically aren't the people that that get shut off.

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I do want to add one thing about the payment arrangements.

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It's important to know that in staying with treating everyone the same we allow people to make payment arrangements up to one week past shut off.

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So the following Wednesday is the cut off and they are still treated the same.

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It's they've they've received the door hanger.

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It's still the same but they have to call the office by 10 a.m.

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or come in and talk to us to make that arrangement.

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So when you're talking payment arrangements it's really only a one week extension.

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It begins on the first day that the bill goes out that we're willing to help them.

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So the bill is a lot less on the first day that the bill goes out than after they've let it accumulate for three months.

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So we're always willing to talk to them about payment arrangements.

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In our yearly budget that we approve there is a space that recognizes bad debt for water and bad debt for sewer.

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It's not just a couple of thousand dollars.

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I think it's fifteen thousand dollars twelve thousand dollars that we never collect.

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We are making an effort to be fair and equitable.

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But we still have that hardship received by us as a negative which unfortunately gets passed on to all their other ratepayers that are honest and doing the right thing.

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Yeah just for clarification then the rate payer is behind actually two full months going into the third month.

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So they're not actually behind three full months.

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They wouldn't be behind three months until the end of month C. Is that correct?

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Correct and that's why what we were trying to track today is the bill for month A to shut off because they start overlapping.

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You know if we started with month B it would be into month D.

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Are citizens being told that they have three months before their water gets turned off?

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No no they're receiving these notices that give them specific dates.

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We're not saying at the beginning it says when you get your bill it's due by the 30th.

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It doesn't say you have three months to pay this bill as you saw on the reminder notice it was a specific date of the 25th.

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And then with the door hangers it falls to Wednesdays which is a little bit confusing but that's the day that those things happen.

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So when there's a door hanger it's got a specific date on it.

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So we're always giving the people specific dates.

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Okay I think we have to be careful.

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There have been people to tell me that they've been advised that they would not have their water turned off until after three full months of non-pay.

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And that's from what I'm seeing here that's not the case from what you're telling us.

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That's not the case.

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So I think that the city has to be very careful that we're not putting out a three month period that they have to pay their water before it gets shut off.

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When in fact it'll be shut off before the end of three months.

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You have seen the exact information that we're communicating to our customers.

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That's what they get from us with dates on them.

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Good.

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Thank you.

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Any other questions?

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No?

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Thank you very much Cheryl.

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Hopefully everybody was listening.

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Yes.

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We hope.

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Moving on the third item on the agenda is oral comments from the public.

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Members of the public may be heard on any item of interest not on the public meeting agenda.

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Speakers addressing the council or board will be limited to three minutes per speaker.

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Comments concerning the consent calendar may be heard at this time.

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Be advised that by law the city council and redevelopment agency board can only deliberate and take action on items that are included on the agenda.

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So at this time is there anyone from the public that would like to address the council?

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Come up to the microphone sir.

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My name is Gary Kramer.

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I live at the end of Hillside Drive.

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I'm here because I am sure that eventually someone is going to be injured or killed due to the conditions of the street.

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It's in a forested area approximately a mile long and rises up to an elevation of about 200 feet.

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Besides cars and trucks many people use the street for walking, jogging, riding, bicycles and horses.

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The traffic using the road is increasing in volume and moving faster.

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In the future with more development the problems will multiply and surely get worse.

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There are also blind curves at the bottom with no sidewalks, gutters or curbs on either side of it.

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I believe this is against the law now but not at the time Hillside Drive developed.

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Recently there has been two mudslides blocking the road and a few years ago a tree fell on a moving truck and injured the driver.

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Most dangerously as the road angles up there are at least two blind spots created by roller coaster type dips in the road.

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Creating blind spots for the drivers and pedestrians coming in opposite directions.

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Every time I use the road I hold my breath.

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No one is coming up the other side when we meet with a bang.

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Especially when somebody is riding my rear end wanting to go faster.

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Anyway I know you can't do anything about it now but maybe you could fix the potholes.

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Thank you.

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Mr. Mayor and my fellow council people my name is Dean Glauser.

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As most viewers know at home tonight I have a mission of two things.

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Number one is informational and the second is to introduce somebody very very important that lives here in the city.

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The first aspect I am commander of post 96 of AMVETS of California.

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Most members know that the VFW Veterans of Foreign Leagues exists, Foreign Wars exists and American Legion exists.

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Each of those service organizations have certain mandates that require specific involvements during a wartime.

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If you are a veteran of foreign war you have to be set foot on foreign land while at wartime.

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For American Legion it's still wartime involvements which is World War II, Korea, Vietnam.

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But you didn't set foot on foreign soil.

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There is another organization that started in the 1940s which sort of goes unseen and I am representing that tonight.

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AMVETS of America.

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There are 50 different states that are called departments rather than saying AMVET of California it's called AMVETS California.

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It's a fantastic organization it doesn't have any other mandates than requiring a DD 214 honorable discharge.

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We also have members that belong to VFW and American Legion to embrace what AMVETS can do.

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AMVETS has dedicated its whole entire organization to doing what is necessary for the good of the veteran.

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Whether it be physical, mental, psychological, whatever.

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We will go to any extent that is legally possible for representation and finding them help.

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I am commander of post-96 I just got elected.

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I feel that's a really honorable position to do as an introduction for the gentleman who has lived in Fortuna for decades.

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He has involved himself with VFW and American Legion but predominantly for veterans foreign wars as commander, district commander.

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Eight years ago, nine years ago he discovered that AMVETS was another organization that had more drive and more to offer to the veterans that live in the United States as well as California.

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Tonight I am truly honored to introduce the commander of AMVETS of the state of California Jerry Greer.

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Thank you commander. It's my pleasure to be here this evening.

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Dean wanted to have me come down and introduce myself.

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Most of you know me I've been around here I've been to your council meetings before.

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I was involved in putting the flag bowl in front of the veterans hall over here and do a lot as an advocate for veterans.

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I am very proud to have been elected a week ago yesterday as a state commander for AMVETS.

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It's going to be a real busy year for me it's running around all over the state for national meetings in Washington DC and Maryland.

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So it's going to be a busy year for me but this is what I enjoy doing is advocating for my fellow veterans that don't have a voice.

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So that's what we're here to do. I'm very proud to have Dean as one of our post commanders.

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He's very energetic as you probably all know and that's what we need in our local post and such to keep them going.

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So it is my extreme pleasure to be here this evening. I have one comment for you.

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I thought about saying it at the time your flag needs to be presented with the eagle facing out.

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I noticed that as we did the pledge of allegiance but I didn't want to interrupt your meeting.

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So in the future if you make an effort to try to display it the right way it will help other people will notice.

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Thank you gentlemen. Ladies and gentlemen thank you very much.

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Thank you. Congratulations.

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Applause

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I'm Jesse Susley I'm president of the Fortinople Association and I have a little gift here for you guys.

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For about a week in May around May 12th to May 17th Mr. Gary Buckles of Gary R. Buckles investigation and counseling met with many city employees and others.

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The purpose of the meeting was unclear but from the questions and topics discussed the focus appeared to be related to issues associated with the public works director.

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On May 23rd the city manager came to the weekly public works safety meeting and explained that Mr. Buckles was not doing a personal investigation or an investigation on any one person but was doing an analyst of the organization.

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This seemed odd since the focus of discussion with Mr. Buckles was mainly regarding the public works director.

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The city manager stated that as a result of the investigation the city manager would be spending a lot more time at the public works department.

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At that meeting I asked for a copy of the report and was told by the city manager that only the city manager would see it and then it would be destroyed.

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It is my understanding that no one else including the city council, city attorney or department heads will see the report.

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The only person the city manager has talked with about the report seems to be the public works director.

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Since this report was an organizational study and not a personal investigation and the investigation and subsequent report were paid for by taxpayer dollars I am making a public records request for the following documents.

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A copy of the agreement including scope of work and cost between the city of Fortuna and Mr. Buckles, a copy of any insurance, licenses or other documentation provided to the city by Mr. Buckles establishing his qualifications to perform the study.

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A copy of the report prepared by Mr. Buckles including any findings and or recommendations.

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A copy of the invoices paid to Mr. Buckles for the organizational study including the account numbers and where the expenses were posted.

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A copy of any other invoices for cost related to the organizational study conducted by Mr. Buckles including the account numbers where the invoices were posted.

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And I have a copy of all my requests for everybody.

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Thank you.

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Is there anyone else from the public that would like to speak?

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Hi, Janelle Laker. I want to make a comment about the presentation please.

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I don't know what to believe.

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Cheryl says that nobody's water is turned off and on but we have a gentleman who says that his water was turned off and on.

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We'll set all that aside and go to the policy which is what he said he wanted to see addressed.

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He wasn't arguing with the process.

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He was arguing with the policy.

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The policy is that at 10 o'clock the water is considered turned off.

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And the statement was that they had no way of notifying, I think, notifying if somebody comes in what do they do?

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It's easy.

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They pick up the phone and they call the person and say have you turned off their water?

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If they haven't you say you don't.

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They're here to pay their bill.

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Good. Except for you charge them $100.

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And that's the policy that's being objected to is charging somebody $100 when in fact their water has not been turned off.

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This isn't so it's it creates sort of a race to the finish perhaps and it may be what you don't want to do.

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But I want to tell you that the municipal code which allows the collection of fee says specifically if water service is cut off you may collect a fee.

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Thank you.

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Is there anyone else from the public that would like to speak?

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Mr. Mayor make a motion to close public comment period.

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Second.

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We move and second it to close public comment.

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All in favor signify by saying aye.

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Aye.

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Opposed?

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Mayor can we have a clarification on that $100 with the municipal code from staff?

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Sure.

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Cheryl you want to answer that?

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The municipal code states that it's disconnected.

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The service of disconnecting may not be a physical thing that actually happens.

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I'm not sure if that answers your question but the $100 on the reconnect fee.

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Is that what you were asking about?

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The usual reconnect fee is $75 however if you have had your water shut off previously then it goes to $100.

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And the disconnect is at 10 o'clock.

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That's right.

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There's a lot of things involved in the process that we're trying to recover other than the actual turning of the meter.

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Because we have invested time in reminder notices, sending out shut off notices, door hangers, preparing them, having staff go out.

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So the whole process of the disconnect is contributing towards the cost of the reconnect fee.

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Do you think that maybe we need to reword our municipal code to say what you just said?

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Is that a city attorney question?

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Is this cutting out?

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That's a possibility but there are a lot of things in the municipal code that are not clear which is why we establish standard procedures

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so that we can try to implement the intent of the municipal code fairly and equitably to all of our customers.

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We started on that.

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We certainly can clarify it.

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The amount, the exact amount, that's set by council.

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Maybe we should just look at it again and make sure it's worded right in the municipal code.

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We've been going through a lot of that over the last few years so it's something we can read.

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Certainly we can do that.

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It would be nice if our municipal code went along with our policy instead of our, we're trying to justify our policy and it almost matches the municipal code.

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Understood.

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It would be nice if we could fix that.

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Just to clarify, it doesn't contradict the municipal code.

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In a lot of cases, the municipal code is written a little bit generically and then we do establish policies and procedures to carry out the municipal code.

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It doesn't necessarily match verbatim what we're doing.

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Okay.

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Any other comments or anything?

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No?

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No.

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Okay.

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Moving on, next item on the agenda is a report for distribution of money.

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That's always a tough one.

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I hate giving money away.

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Well, clarification, you're not giving money away, you're paying for service.

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Paying bill, yes.

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Paying for services.

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For services delivered.

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Let's hope so.

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This is a report of our disbursements for June 20th.

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It's to the City Council and to the Redevelopment Agency.

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The disbursements for the city were $142,493.98 and for the Redevelopment Agency $1,250.

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It's an oral report.

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No action by the council is required.

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Any questions from the City Manager?

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No.

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Moving on to item five, which is the consent calendar and we have eight items on the consent calendar.

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Does any of the council wish to pull any item?

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Mr. Mayor, number seven and number eight.

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I just had a question on number two.

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Mr. Mayor, I make a motion to approve consent calendar items number one, three, four, five, and six.

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Second.

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It's been moved and seconded to approve consent calendar item one, three, four, five, and six.

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All in favor signify by saying aye.

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Aye.

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Opposed?

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So passed.

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We'll start with number two.

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You would like to community development report?

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On the subdivision status report on page 10, there are three subdivisions that are expiring within the next three months

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and I just wanted to make sure that those people are being contacted and that they will not be allowed to expire without anyone realizing it.

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So noted.

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Thank you.

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I think the last time I brought that up, they're automatically extended.

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There is an automatic extension.

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It's a freebie.

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But we will make sure there's adequate notice.

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I make a motion to approve item number two.

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Second.

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It's been moved and seconded to approve item number two.

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All in favor signify by saying aye.

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Aye.

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Opposed?

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So approved.

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Item number seven.

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Item number seven.

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This is about River Lodge and the bottom.

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I'm an advocate of the gift shop sales.

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This year, they're trying something new, which was to continue selling fire and light products, but also to have a seconds products

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sale, which started the 13th.

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And I heard that the first increment of components, the 600 items that they got were sold out immediately.

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So they went and got another 600 delivered.

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And I'm assuming the same feeding frenzy occurred on that.

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So I guess my question is how many times can we do the seconds until we run out of the seconds?

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Because it's benefiting both the city for the gift shop sales as well as fire and light.

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But I'm definitely in favor of this.

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If we can do this on a yearly or bi-annually, whatever, we need to embrace it.

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For item number eight on page 27, for the public, this is a consideration of a request for Fortuna concert series to wave fee for the

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River Lodge and the co-sponsor Air Force Jazz Band Concert.

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And the fee that has been requested to be waived is the daily fee of $850.

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And I just wanted to point out that that is for the whole entire day.

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The period of time that this band's going to be there is not going to be eight hours.

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It'll be far, far shorter than that.

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So the cost technically is not that much, but still had to quote the $850.

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And I am definitely in favor that any time we can bring some patriotic service branch band to our city and let people listen to these

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professionals that are serving our country, providing all this wonderful music, I'm truly in favor of it.

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So with that, Mr. Mayor, I make a motion to approve and a free concert.

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Yes.

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Stanford.

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Is there any other comments on either one of those items, seven or eight?

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On number eight with the Air Force Jazz Band.

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I was very honored when Corinne and Jim Stanfield brought this idea to me and then in turn to the city.

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And I think it's a great program.

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I don't know that there has been some discussion about maybe if we could see that they could do two programs on that day rather than just one.

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But so it might be more than an hour or length, you know, hour or two.

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It could be longer, depending on if it's an afternoon concert and then maybe an evening concert because it is on a Sunday.

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But at any rate, I'm sure that whatever venue they, it's going to be packed, especially if they do have just one program.

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But I was very honored and I'm glad to see this on the consent agenda.

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Okay, with that, I make a motion to approve items number seven and eight.

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Second.

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I move and second it to approve items seven and eight.

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All in favor signify by saying aye.

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Aye.

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Opposed?

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So approved.

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Moving on to the business items for tonight's meeting.

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The first item is a public hearing.

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City of Fortuna urban water management plan and adopt a resolution 2011-25.

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Presenting the staff report this evening is Dennis Ryan, our director of public works and city engineer.

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Thank you, Dwayne.

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Good evening, honorable mayor and council members.

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The item before you at this time is a public hearing to consider adopting an urban water management plan for the city of Fortuna.

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The city has recently contracted with environmental and freshwater environmental services to assist in the preparation of an update to the city's urban water management plan.

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The plan is a regulatory requirement geared primarily toward the efficient operation and maintenance of water systems.

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And it does have a focus on water conservation and drought emergency planning.

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City last prepared a plan in 2000 and although the plan is required to be updated every five years, the city did not update their plan in 2005.

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The 2010 update deadline was postponed to July 30th, 2011 due to significant changes both in the program and in the plan requirements.

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Although this is a regulatory requirement, in the past there's been little incentive to update these plans, especially in geographic areas similar to the north state,

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who typically see very small population growth, little history of water shortage and water supplies that have historically been abundant.

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The north coast has also seen a significant decrease in water demand as a result of several of our local businesses going out of business.

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A current urban water management plan has recently been added as a requirement to receiving certain grant funds associated to the Department of Water Resources,

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including several of the programs to which the city has submitted grant applications.

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Therefore, obviously, the incentive to update urban water management plans has changed pretty dramatically.

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The plan requires that urban water suppliers report, describe and evaluate four major areas, water deliveries and uses, water supply sources,

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efficient water uses and demand measurement management measures, which are can be thought of as best management practices for the operation of the water system.

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We have prepared a plan. It's quite lengthy. It's quite detailed.

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The plan does not answer every question, but it does describe a timing and it sets a template or a plan for completing all of the items that are regulatory requirements.

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One of the things that is very interesting to note is that it does force you to look at your water consumption historically.

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And if you look at the graph on page two of the report, this is on page 30 of the council packet,

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you will notice that over the past five years, there has been a significant decrease in water consumption within the city.

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We believe that this is a definite factor of being more conscious of and conscientious about the use of water within the city associated with the new water rates that were implemented five years ago.

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The procedural and I should also mention that you will see and we will talk about that considerably in more depth and in much longer, more detail when we talk about water and sewer rates that has had a significant impact on how we structure those rates.

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The procedural requirements require several things, including a 15 day public notice prior to the public hearing of the plan.

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It requires city council review and approval. It must the plan must be available for public review during normal business hours, at least 30 days prior to submittal to the Department of Water Resources.

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It's required to be submitted to the Department of Water Resources, and it also must be submitted to the California State Library.

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We have taken care of the noticing requirements.

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This is the public hearing to consider city council review and approval and draft copy is included in this plan.

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If council chooses to adopt this plan, we will take care of the making it available for the required time and posting it both submitting it to both the Department of Water Resources and the California State Library.

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The plan, as I mentioned, is quite lengthy.

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There's one other thing that council should be aware of as a result of this process.

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We are pursuing clarification of documents that have bounced around the city for many years in regards to surface water rights on the Eel River.

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We're talking with the Department of Water Resources.

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There are some details that may come out of those conversations that may require some modifications to this plan.

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It will be quite some time before those questions are answered.

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We would suggest that this plan be adopted at this point in time.

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And depending upon the outcome of those conversations, we consider whether or not modifications are required to the plan.

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We'd be more than happy to answer any questions that council may have.

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Any questions of staff at this time?

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Just a comment or two.

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You've got 75 pages of writing here, and I found it very difficult to find any meat on the bone of this thing.

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Where did it take us? What is it doing?

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We either respond in the negative.

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It's not applicable, the Fortuna, or another statement on here that is given quite often with the DMMs is not a foundational DMM.

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So it's a nice historic document, and it says we're going to do some things in the future.

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But it sounds like you I mean, to me, it looks like you did a lot of work to satisfy the state requirement that.

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At least not tell us anything.

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I'm not going to argue that point.

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Warren Plocker is here with Freshwater Environmental Services.

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He can he's the one that actually prepared the plan.

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If you have specific questions of him, I'd be more than happy to make him available to answer those questions in response based upon the level of detail that I am familiar with the report.

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You are required to address certain specific items and you have three or four different courses of actions to document your consideration of those those topics.

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And those are the elements that you identified of.

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You've either done something about it.

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It's not applicable. You can demonstrate.

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I think that it's not financially feasible.

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And then the foundational element, I believe, and maybe Oren can provide additional clarification.

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But I believe that that's not like one of the required elements.

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You can adopt it if you so choose.

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Is that basically correct?

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Or excuse me, could you come to the mic, please, so that we can record it?

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Thank you. Thank you. To address the foundational demand management measures and the programmatic measures that you have more options on and the fact that you've seen such dramatic reductions in your gallons used per person per day.

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It's the gallons per capita per day that keeps on coming up in that discussion there.

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As you've already seen such drastic reductions, it gets you out to do some of those programs.

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But there still may be good reasons for looking at those in the future.

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We're so far under stated goals in this report that we're going to need a lot more houses and a lot more people to get that gallons per use per day figure up to our goal is to have it less less.

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Right.

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We've done a really good, you know, you guys have done a really good job of reducing the consumption per person.

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That's a good thing.

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Does the closure of the mill site here in town, does that attribute to the lessening of consumption?

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Is that factored in in the gallons per capita per day figure?

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The gallons per capita per day is based on the amount of water that's produced divided by your population.

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If your town had 10% or more of your water going for industrial uses, then there would be a process by which you could eliminate those to focus on just what your residential use.

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Residential.

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Total production divided by population and ends up with these reductions here around 100 gallons per person per day, which is really good.

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You thank you for being here.

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I'm at the nice meeting you in the audience.

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It is very unique that we've done the sewer water increases, which ironically have facilitated meeting some of these mandates.

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And I decided to tweak the numbers, always like playing numbers and then coming up with at least the basis.

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In year 2000, going by the 132 gallons per day, that works out to 555 cubic feet.

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So if you have a water bill that reflects that and you're under that, guess what?

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You're close, but you're still a little bit above the low amount, which is way below the target of 2015 and 2020.

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The low amount that's been reflected right now is an average of 430 cubic feet.

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And I think some of us up here could probably combine both of ours together and come up with 430.

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So a lot of people are meeting that requirement.

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And the program for our bond payback has made that happen.

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Although there are other people that the sky's the limit and they have a lot of things in their home.

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And we can't really find them in penalty, but it's the averaging, the mathematical averaging concept that what you were referring to that we go by.

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Yes.

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You have material information in here that reflected Scotia and what happens in Scotia stays in Scotia.

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What happens in Fortuna as a water supply stays in Fortuna.

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And we definitely don't distribute our water anyplace else, which is interesting, but it's in-house.

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And what you reported as components of the breakdown of materials that were negative, not what you want to find in our water.

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I'm not sure whether that was reflected because of Scotia's breakdown, the Manganese and so forth.

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We don't have stinky water in Fortuna.

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It comes from an old river bar, old, old river base that thousands of years ago used to be above the bluffs where the trap club is.

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But it just swings around and does what it wants to do.

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And the volume of water that you refer to as aquifers, I personally think that we have probably one of the best water supplies in the state of California because the people in the valley are trying to force mandates against us to change our ways.

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When technically, we don't have anything to say about their water supply that comes from Shasta or from the Sierras.

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So, yeah, we do have the best of the best, the best water.

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We don't have to be paying homage to the Humboldt Municipal Water Works.

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We don't have to worry about the poor quality of water in Riedel or the limited supply of water that's in Scotia.

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So it was good information. I plowed right through it and found some stuff interesting.

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And one of them was on page five in year 2010, a total of 440 million gallons of water were pumped from our wells for the city of Fortuna.

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That works out to 1,205,000 gallons per day, which is a phenomenal amount of use.

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There must have been a lot of fire trucks squirting water that day.

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Or a lot of watering for our parks.

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But anyway, thank you very much for providing this.

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And it's great to be able to not have to jump through any more state hoops because we've already met that quota.

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We just have to stay there. We will. We will.

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Your projection of growth, I think, was 1.3 percent per year.

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Yes, sir. I don't think that's going to come into play.

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You know, we're going through a crisis in our state and I don't think the growth is going to occur to that level.

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We did for 12 years really jump high on the hog and build a lot of homes and relocate people from elsewhere.

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But I don't think that's going to come into play and that'll probably be in our favor.

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Thank you. Any other questions?

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I don't know if it's Orrin or Dennis, but there are several references to items that are going to be completed or implemented by July 2012.

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Who's doing that and who's keeping track of all of those things and making sure we get them all done?

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The city will be responsible for keeping track of those and completing those.

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And so where it says our DMML conservation coordinator is freshwater environmental, what are they going to do exactly then versus what the city is going to do?

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They will be reminding us of things that we need to do and will be determining whether or not it would be most cost effective for us to complete those in-house

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or have them take the primary lead in completion of those items.

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And then that cost for that service will be taken out of the enterprise?

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Yes.

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And is that currently a budget item that we're going to be talking about tomorrow?

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Has that been taken into account for the 2011-12 budget?

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It's included under consultation services.

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I don't know that there is a specific item for each one of those items, but it is estimated in the consultant services.

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Yeah, it wasn't very fun reading. Orrin, could you try to do better?

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There you go.

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Dennis, could you speak to the adjudicated water rights that the city may or may not have?

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It seems to me in the general plan background discussion that our subsurface pumping from the basin was fairly secure.

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We don't take surface water off the Eel River. Is that two different things or is it the same thing?

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Well, that happens to be the question that we're primarily investigating with the Department of Water Resources.

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What we have found is that DWR seems to be fairly anxious to assign surface water rights to anything that they think may even remotely be related.

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I'm not sure what the philosophy is behind that, but there are many questions around that particular item that we are pursuing with DWR.

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When we talked about on page 67 plans to fully implement the DMG by July and then it says all these things we're going to do, what do you mean by contacts with the public four times a year?

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There will actually be public education outreach programs where we will go to schools or we will make presentations.

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So anytime you go somewhere, say a school or wherever it might be, that's considered one of your four appearances?

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Yes, and it could be a rotary club, it could be Chamber of Commerce, it could be...

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It won't necessarily be a council thing where we have to do this four times a year.

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You don't have to sit through this.

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So the education programs would be basically conservation?

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Yes.

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This whole 70-some pages was on conservation basically?

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It's focused on conservation and drought planning and management.

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Any other questions?

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No.

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You want to open it to the public?

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Yes, I'm going to open it to the public.

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Anyone from the public that would like to address this matter can now take the podium please.

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Move to close public comment.

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Second the motion.

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We move and second it to close public comment.

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All in favor signify by saying aye.

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Aye.

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And what's the pleasure of the council?

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I'll move to adopt resolution 2011-25 and read by title only.

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Second the motion.

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It's been moved and seconded to approve resolution 2011-25, a resolution of the city council

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of the city of Fortuna adopting the urban water management plan.

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I just had a question.

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On the resolution itself on about the seventh, whereas down below it says the city did not

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receive any comments and that at least with mine looks like it's shaded so that's taken out?

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It will be, yeah it's a statement of fact but we didn't know it to be true until now.

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So it stays in?

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So it will stay in.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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Okay.

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This will be a roll call vote.

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Councilmember Glauser?

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Yes ma'am.

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Councilmember Long?

01:00:24.680 --> 01:00:25.680
Yes.

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Councilmember Losey?

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Yes.

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Mayor Pro Tem Zanze?

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Yes.

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It's been a while since that one.

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Mayor Stroh?

01:00:35.680 --> 01:00:36.680
Yes.

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I apologize.

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Next item on the agenda is to consider adoption of council's policy and procedures manual,

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adopt resolution 2011-14.

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Honorable Mayor and council members, this is really your project.

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This was something that the city council had made a desire or a statement about, particularly

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brought forward by Mayor Stroh.

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And you have been working as you know, several workshop sessions in the early mornings.

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I think there were four of them if I remember correctly.

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Staff provided you with a couple of options of various examples from other cities.

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You selected one that was probably more in tune with Fortuna and then went about modifying,

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adding, correcting and making it Fortuna's own.

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And so you know more about this product than certainly I was there with you, your city

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attorney was.

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But this was, I think, a very big step forward.

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And so staff is presenting to you this evening based on your last workshop where you seemed

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to be pleased with what the final modifications were and is being brought to you for adoption.

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And at this time I'd also like to make a point of thanking Linda Jensen.

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She did quite a bit of work on researching this and also following the corrections and

01:02:05.160 --> 01:02:07.360
providing you those documents.

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It was quite a bit of work.

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I thank you.

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So staff is suggesting and proposing that you adopt this manual through the adoption

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resolution 2011-14.

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I like the process we went through to come up with this handbook.

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We really, in prior councils there wasn't a guideline for anybody new coming on the

01:02:32.000 --> 01:02:36.760
council to kind of understand what the council was all about and some of its responsibilities.

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So I think what we were able to accomplish was to come up with at least a nice little

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handbook to start out for us and for everybody in the future.

01:02:46.400 --> 01:02:49.880
It's something that can be changed in the future or whatever.

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Linda did a fantastic job of gathering handbooks from quite a few different cities that we

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got to read and choose and pick from.

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And then she went to listen to us through all of our meetings and did all of our corrections

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and etc.

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And it came out, I think it came out to be a good document anyway.

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So that's my comment.

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Anybody else have any comments on it?

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Yeah, I just wanted, excuse me, so go ahead.

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Just to echo the thank yous to Linda, she was very patient with us and she had helped

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us with wording and ideas and it was a good project.

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Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

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And product is an excellent product I believe, so it's well worth it.

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It's also, I want to thank Linda too for the work she did, but it's also a reference set

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for the public to look at to see how we are supposed to conduct our business and to make

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sure that we do that by our own rules.

01:03:50.340 --> 01:03:52.320
So again, thank you Linda.

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People give the public that want to be candidates actually know what they're up to as requirements

01:03:59.360 --> 01:04:09.240
and obligations rather than coming in extremely naive nine years ago and learning from the

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very get go that you have a lot to do.

01:04:12.800 --> 01:04:17.520
But yeah, great job Linda and you facilitated it.

01:04:17.520 --> 01:04:26.040
We absconded wordage from other cities and made a wonderful workshop book, so thanks.

01:04:26.040 --> 01:04:29.360
I think it also will help the public if they actually look at it when they are wanting

01:04:29.360 --> 01:04:34.000
the council to intervene or help them with something, they'll realize just what the council

01:04:34.000 --> 01:04:38.360
is supposed to do versus what the city manager and city staff is supposed to do.

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So that I think will be helpful in the future too.

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It will be available on the website after you guys have completed your mission.

01:04:48.080 --> 01:04:51.040
I don't know if you could hear Linda at that time, but she said it's going to be available

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on the website when we're done.

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So do we want a motion?

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Need a motion, yes.

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Public comment.

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Oh, well I guess we need public comment.

01:05:02.200 --> 01:05:06.440
It says so on chapter.

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That's right.

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It's in the head.

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It's in the head.

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Is there anyone from the public that would like to speak on this topic?

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Mr. Mayor, make a motion to close.

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You're coming.

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Too small.

01:05:20.640 --> 01:05:23.640
I want to congratulate you.

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It's a very fine document.

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It's nice to know how something gets on the agenda and that there's a process for that.

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To know the process when you come in, to stand here to know the process is very helpful.

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I do have to say one, I have to give, I say one thing, repeat one thing that I said before,

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even though you've heard it before.

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And that is that the interface with the public, the one thing that is missing is follow up.

01:06:00.800 --> 01:06:11.560
We refer to the city manager who follows up, who makes sure that what happens.

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I have given you a complaint and as far as I know it's in limbo.

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I don't want to bring this up but it's been eight weeks.

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And there's been no follow up.

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Nobody has contacted me.

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Nobody contacted me when I gave it to you.

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I saw it on the agenda that it was coming up.

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So there needs to be follow up.

01:06:34.160 --> 01:06:42.600
When people contact you, there needs to be some follow up to know that, you know, who

01:06:42.600 --> 01:06:48.080
do I go to if I don't hear anything once I contact you.

01:06:48.080 --> 01:06:50.080
Thank you.

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Thank you.

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It's good advice too.

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We'll have to pay attention to that.

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Thank you.

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Any other comments from the public?

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No, Dean.

01:07:04.080 --> 01:07:06.080
No, Dean.

01:07:06.080 --> 01:07:07.920
I want to sleep on it.

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I can do it.

01:07:08.920 --> 01:07:09.920
I can do it.

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Mr. Mayor, make a motion to close public comment period.

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Second.

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We move and then seconded to close public comment period.

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All in favor signify by saying aye.

01:07:17.160 --> 01:07:18.160
Aye.

01:07:18.160 --> 01:07:19.160
All opposed.

01:07:19.160 --> 01:07:23.320
I'd just like to take a minute real quick to thank Janelle because she did sit through

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most of our workshops and she had several comments that were helpful and we incorporated

01:07:27.520 --> 01:07:32.520
some of what she said into this policy and thank you for being there.

01:07:32.520 --> 01:07:35.120
Yes, that's true.

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So which one are you going to be brave enough to put this into policy?

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Me.

01:07:41.880 --> 01:07:42.880
Okay.

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I make the motion that we adopt resolution number 2011-14 and read it by title only.

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Second.

01:07:49.920 --> 01:07:55.520
It's been moved and seconded to approve resolution number 2011-14, resolution of the City Council

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of the City of Fortuna adopting the council policy and procedures manual.

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Takes a roll call.

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Councilmember Glazer?

01:08:07.920 --> 01:08:08.920
Yes, ma'am.

01:08:08.920 --> 01:08:09.920
Councilmember Long?

01:08:09.920 --> 01:08:10.920
Yes.

01:08:10.920 --> 01:08:11.920
Councilmember Losey?

01:08:11.920 --> 01:08:12.920
Yes.

01:08:12.920 --> 01:08:13.920
Mayor Pro Tem Zanzi?

01:08:13.920 --> 01:08:14.920
Yes.

01:08:14.920 --> 01:08:15.920
Mayor Strull?

01:08:15.920 --> 01:08:16.920
Yes.

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And I congratulate all of you as well for working as diligently and cooperatively as

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we all did.

01:08:27.440 --> 01:08:30.200
And we learned from this that kin does not like etc.s.

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I have a page of them coming up.

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Okay, moving on to the next item on the agenda, item C is to consider authorization of extension

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of the 2010-2011 fiscal budget for both the city and the redevelopment agencies.

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Adopt resolutions 2011-24 and RDA 2011-01.

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Dwayne?

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This particular staff report and what the two resolutions allow the council to do is

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to extend this year's fiscal year budget into next year.

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And as you know, tomorrow night we take up reviewing the draft proposed budget for you

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and we have two meetings set aside for that Tuesday and Wednesday.

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And I suspect that we will get through the entire budget in that timeframe.

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With that said, based on the comments and direction we get from staff, we'll need to

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prepare that budget for your official adoption of it, which at the earliest won't occur until

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Tuesday, July 5th.

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So moving into and of course it doesn't always go as planned and there might even be a reason

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for extending that to even a later meeting in July.

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So what I didn't want us to do is enter the new fiscal year as of 1 July without a budget

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in hand.

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And so this was a procedure that we have done in the past, which essentially extends the

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current budget and its element since the new budget isn't radically different from this

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one and gives authority for the city manager to proceed continuing operate the city government

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and to operate the redevelopment agency, which includes issuing payroll to our employees

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and as well as continuing our other operations.

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This particular resolution does have a timeframe.

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It is good until July 31st of 2011 or until the 2011-2012 fiscal year is adopted, budget

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is adopted, whichever occurs first.

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The intent here is this is a very short natured short term resolution that certainly wouldn't

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have to go beyond the month of July unless some extenuating circumstances come up and

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then again we would have to extend the budget.

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But that's what's in front of you this evening and staff is recommending that you adopt resolution

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2011-24 and RDA resolution 2011-1.

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Is there any discussion or questions to the city manager?

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I have a question regarding payroll.

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If we approve COLA's, how does that affect the payroll that would be paid in July or

01:11:19.100 --> 01:11:22.160
is there a payroll due before July 5th?

01:11:22.160 --> 01:11:23.160
There isn't.

01:11:23.160 --> 01:11:26.800
Well, it will be coming due, but it will be for payroll that occurred in June.

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So it wouldn't be.

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Okay.

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So at this particular time we have not and we do not have an agreement to do affect those.

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So if we go forward with those that's going to have to probably be the word that the finance

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department hates and you probably appreciate it is retroactive stuff.

01:11:44.440 --> 01:11:48.920
But that would at least allow us to honor the payroll.

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I think I answered your question.

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Well, unless we go beyond July 31st, we'll be okay, right?

01:11:57.800 --> 01:12:01.720
That would be and I certainly hope we don't get past July 5th.

01:12:01.720 --> 01:12:02.720
Okay.

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Any other questions in the line?

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I'd like to open this to the public.

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Anyone from the public like to address this item?

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Move to close public comment.

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Second the motion.

01:12:20.600 --> 01:12:22.640
Moved and seconded to close public comment.

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All in favor signify by saying aye.

01:12:24.840 --> 01:12:25.840
Aye.

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All opposed?

01:12:27.760 --> 01:12:28.760
So closed.

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Mr. Mayor for the city.

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I move to adopt resolution 11 2011-24 and read by title only.

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Second.

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It's been moved and seconded to approve resolution 2011-24 a resolution of the City Council of

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the City of Fortuna authorizes the extension of the 2010-2011 fiscal year budget.

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Roll call please.

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Councilmember Glazer.

01:12:57.120 --> 01:12:58.120
Yes ma'am.

01:12:58.120 --> 01:12:59.120
Councilmember Long.

01:12:59.120 --> 01:13:00.120
Yes.

01:13:00.120 --> 01:13:01.120
Councilmember Losey.

01:13:01.120 --> 01:13:02.120
Yes.

01:13:02.120 --> 01:13:03.120
Mayor Pro Tem Zanzi.

01:13:03.120 --> 01:13:04.120
Yes.

01:13:04.120 --> 01:13:05.120
Mayor Stowe.

01:13:05.120 --> 01:13:06.120
Yes.

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Now we go on to the redevelopment agency.

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For the redevelopment agency I move to adopt resolution RDA 2011-1 and read by title only.

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Second the motion.

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It's been moved and seconded to approve resolution RDA 2011-01 a resolution of the Fortuna redevelopment

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agency.

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The City of Fortuna authorizes the extension of the 2010-2011 fiscal year budget.

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Roll call please.

01:13:38.600 --> 01:13:39.600
Councilmember Glazer.

01:13:39.600 --> 01:13:40.600
Yes ma'am.

01:13:40.600 --> 01:13:41.600
Councilmember Long.

01:13:41.600 --> 01:13:42.600
Yes.

01:13:42.600 --> 01:13:43.600
Councilmember Losey.

01:13:43.600 --> 01:13:44.600
Yes.

01:13:44.600 --> 01:13:45.600
Mayor Pro Tem Zanzi.

01:13:45.600 --> 01:13:46.600
Yes.

01:13:46.600 --> 01:13:47.600
Mayor Stowe.

01:13:47.600 --> 01:13:48.600
Yes.

01:13:48.600 --> 01:13:49.600
Okay.

01:13:49.600 --> 01:13:54.600
He wants to go ahead.

01:13:54.600 --> 01:13:55.600
Yes.

01:13:55.600 --> 01:13:56.600
Okay.

01:13:56.600 --> 01:13:58.840
Moving on to the next item on the agenda.

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It's a public hearing to consider the adoption of various fees for city services provided

01:14:04.400 --> 01:14:10.240
in the area of city manager, city clerk fees, community development, building permit fees,

01:14:10.240 --> 01:14:16.300
park and recreation fees, police animal control fees, River Lodge Conference Center and Monday

01:14:16.300 --> 01:14:23.840
club fees, transit fees, water and wastewater laboratory fees, extensions of the water and

01:14:23.840 --> 01:14:39.600
sewer rate fees and adopted by resolutions 2011-15, 2011-16, 2011-17, 2011-18, 2011-19,

01:14:39.600 --> 01:14:51.000
2011-20 and resolution 2011-21, 2011-22 and 2011-23.

01:14:51.000 --> 01:14:52.000
Staff report please.

01:14:52.000 --> 01:14:55.800
Honorable Mayor and members of the council.

01:14:55.800 --> 01:15:03.160
These fees were reviewed with you at our workshop on May 31st.

01:15:03.160 --> 01:15:08.960
We went over all the items and I think we got some direction items.

01:15:08.960 --> 01:15:16.040
Most of these fees are have very little change at all from our current year fees.

01:15:16.040 --> 01:15:21.280
There were a couple of exceptions in park and recreation, community development, building

01:15:21.280 --> 01:15:25.800
development, development of new fees have stayed exactly the same.

01:15:25.800 --> 01:15:28.360
Water and sewer is staying exactly the same.

01:15:28.360 --> 01:15:31.980
By and large there are no proposed changes in the fees.

01:15:31.980 --> 01:15:38.520
What this does is move these fees into being able to be collected for next year's business.

01:15:38.520 --> 01:15:45.000
There's one exception I did want to point out in the staff report on page 180.

01:15:45.000 --> 01:15:50.960
There was some fees that were I believe addressed by Councilmember Glauser at that workshop

01:15:50.960 --> 01:15:57.900
and whatever it was worth we did some research on it but didn't extract them.

01:15:57.900 --> 01:16:05.540
If you look on page 180 there's a waiver of sidewalks and parking lane fees and it does

01:16:05.540 --> 01:16:07.240
talk about a fund.

01:16:07.240 --> 01:16:13.280
It says the fees collected under this section shall be paid into the collector and artilier

01:16:13.280 --> 01:16:18.400
road improvement fund.

01:16:18.400 --> 01:16:23.840
I'm afraid to tell you this has been in our resolutions in the past and really I've never

01:16:23.840 --> 01:16:25.120
picked up on it.

01:16:25.120 --> 01:16:28.080
We don't have such a fund.

01:16:28.080 --> 01:16:30.280
Never did.

01:16:30.280 --> 01:16:33.600
This was a fee structure that was created some time back.

01:16:33.600 --> 01:16:35.800
I don't know exactly when.

01:16:35.800 --> 01:16:42.080
As far as I can tell and from all the review of this we've never imposed it.

01:16:42.080 --> 01:16:45.680
Never had a purpose for it.

01:16:45.680 --> 01:16:51.240
Reviewing it yet again we don't see where it fits in with the purposes of the city in

01:16:51.240 --> 01:16:52.480
the future.

01:16:52.480 --> 01:17:00.080
So therefore I'm recommending that that particular item be deleted from our fee structure.

01:17:00.080 --> 01:17:06.000
I'm sorry I didn't point that out earlier and that was identified in the staff report

01:17:06.000 --> 01:17:11.480
but it serves no purpose that we can see of and in fact has never been used or have any

01:17:11.480 --> 01:17:14.720
evidence of ever using it.

01:17:14.720 --> 01:17:20.600
If we do need something like that in the future I would suggest we would rewrite this or go

01:17:20.600 --> 01:17:24.000
about it a little bit differently than how this approach was.

01:17:24.000 --> 01:17:31.080
I don't know what particular problem or situation was in front of us at the time that this was

01:17:31.080 --> 01:17:36.480
being proposed and subsequently adopted but it didn't seem to ever manifest itself and

01:17:36.480 --> 01:17:40.520
certainly we don't see any need for it now.

01:17:40.520 --> 01:17:42.040
That's my staff report.

01:17:42.040 --> 01:17:43.040
Any questions?

01:17:43.040 --> 01:17:46.040
Does anyone have any questions?

01:17:46.040 --> 01:17:47.040
No?

01:17:47.040 --> 01:17:48.040
Yes.

01:17:48.040 --> 01:17:49.040
Yes go ahead.

01:17:49.040 --> 01:17:57.360
Yes my last comments on this item related to the term etc. used in fee schedules and

01:17:57.360 --> 01:18:04.560
the necessity to have our fees described with great clarity if we're going to charge people

01:18:04.560 --> 01:18:10.960
for services.

01:18:10.960 --> 01:18:20.440
We have within our fee schedule charges for etc. that range from zero dollars on page

01:18:20.440 --> 01:18:25.160
176 for ministerial business licenses.

01:18:25.160 --> 01:18:33.360
We charge up to $500 for an etc. regarding the rodeo ground rental on page 198.

01:18:33.360 --> 01:18:42.720
So again I think it's necessary if we're going to say we're going to charge people for something

01:18:42.720 --> 01:18:48.060
that we say what it is and not leave it to people's imagination.

01:18:48.060 --> 01:18:53.080
So those fees exist on page 154.

01:18:53.080 --> 01:18:55.440
Residential sewer rates.

01:18:55.440 --> 01:18:59.960
There's an etc. there we charge $38.75 for on page 176.

01:18:59.960 --> 01:19:09.840
I mentioned that one page 188 temporary power service we charge an etc. fee for $19.72.

01:19:09.840 --> 01:19:18.160
Page 194 a mechanical permit for a we charge for an etc. there of $75.

01:19:18.160 --> 01:19:24.360
Page 198 the rodeo grounds I mentioned that one page 199 we charge $25 an hour for an

01:19:24.360 --> 01:19:28.000
etc. there or $2 per person.

01:19:28.000 --> 01:19:36.040
And on page 199 the recreational hall fee we charge an etc. fee there for $20 to $25

01:19:36.040 --> 01:19:37.040
per hour.

01:19:37.040 --> 01:19:46.840
So just to make it clear in our fee schedule I think it's necessary to say what we mean

01:19:46.840 --> 01:19:54.800
in those seven or eight instances.

01:19:54.800 --> 01:19:59.480
They've been in the fee schedule for years and I guess nobody's complained about being

01:19:59.480 --> 01:20:08.120
charged for an etc. but they're there.

01:20:08.120 --> 01:20:10.720
You have a good point.

01:20:10.720 --> 01:20:17.960
And actually when we took the etc. out of our manual it made it clearer and sharper

01:20:17.960 --> 01:20:19.440
and more precise.

01:20:19.440 --> 01:20:29.080
So I don't know whether we could approve this and ask for those to be removed.

01:20:29.080 --> 01:20:31.480
We could do it that way.

01:20:31.480 --> 01:20:39.320
I believe you can do that and I would ask Mayor Pro Tem Zanzi just to make sure that

01:20:39.320 --> 01:20:41.800
I wrote down all the numbers.

01:20:41.800 --> 01:20:42.800
Thank you.

01:20:42.800 --> 01:20:47.680
I think we could do those edits and I certainly have going through the etc. discussion on

01:20:47.680 --> 01:20:48.800
your other manual.

01:20:48.800 --> 01:20:54.480
It did add a lot of clarity and I think it's time overdue and I believe staff based on

01:20:54.480 --> 01:20:58.760
your direction would have then the authority to go through these and make the appropriate

01:20:58.760 --> 01:21:06.360
corrections or in this case deletions.

01:21:06.360 --> 01:21:10.220
Any other questions of staff on the fee structure?

01:21:10.220 --> 01:21:16.260
We kind of went over this pretty good back in May.

01:21:16.260 --> 01:21:20.920
This is going to be an interesting one because we do have quite a few resolutions.

01:21:20.920 --> 01:21:30.200
We want to start with number two.

01:21:30.200 --> 01:21:31.840
We have to open the public hearing.

01:21:31.840 --> 01:21:32.840
Yes.

01:21:32.840 --> 01:21:35.000
We have to go to the public hearing.

01:21:35.000 --> 01:21:38.800
Anyone from the public like to speak on any of the fee structure?

01:21:38.800 --> 01:21:41.800
Of course.

01:21:41.800 --> 01:21:50.640
I want to speak to the extension of the water and sewer rate fees.

01:21:50.640 --> 01:21:55.720
Of course, you're going to extend them, not changing them, but I want to take this opportunity

01:21:55.720 --> 01:22:07.440
to respond to the comment that the $100, $75 is for the whole process of disconnect.

01:22:07.440 --> 01:22:10.080
The fee needs to be based on what you do.

01:22:10.080 --> 01:22:13.160
That's a fee.

01:22:13.160 --> 01:22:14.160
It's not a penalty.

01:22:14.160 --> 01:22:16.680
If it's a penalty, you already have a penalty.

01:22:16.680 --> 01:22:22.600
It's 10% per month overdue.

01:22:22.600 --> 01:22:28.760
You may have to change your door hanger to say that at this point there's an additional

01:22:28.760 --> 01:22:32.520
penalty or additional fee and then the additional fee.

01:22:32.520 --> 01:22:34.640
Do you see what I'm saying?

01:22:34.640 --> 01:22:40.600
She said that it's for the whole process, but all the process hasn't been when you turn

01:22:40.600 --> 01:22:45.920
off the water, if you don't turn off the water, if they've already paid and you don't turn

01:22:45.920 --> 01:22:53.320
off the water, then you're not doing that part of the service.

01:22:53.320 --> 01:22:54.720
Just look at the process over here.

01:22:54.720 --> 01:22:58.520
Okay, you were pointing, so I thought you wanted me to look at it.

01:22:58.520 --> 01:22:59.520
Sorry.

01:22:59.520 --> 01:23:11.440
The fee is $100 to turn the water back on, but if the water hasn't been turned off, you're

01:23:11.440 --> 01:23:20.760
charging a fee for something that hasn't been done, which is a penalty, not a fee.

01:23:20.760 --> 01:23:25.680
Some of that fee is the process that we have to go through in all the staff time and stuff

01:23:25.680 --> 01:23:27.680
up to that date.

01:23:27.680 --> 01:23:28.680
Yes, yes.

01:23:28.680 --> 01:23:29.680
Pretty close it probably.

01:23:29.680 --> 01:23:38.640
But the big cost is the door hanger and the turning off and turning on, or turning on

01:23:38.640 --> 01:23:39.640
at that point.

01:23:39.640 --> 01:23:43.880
But if the water hasn't been turned off and turning back on, but if the water hasn't been

01:23:43.880 --> 01:23:46.320
turned off, you haven't done that.

01:23:46.320 --> 01:23:47.320
Okay.

01:23:47.320 --> 01:23:48.320
Okay.

01:23:48.320 --> 01:23:49.320
Yep.

01:23:49.320 --> 01:23:52.240
Oh, and sorry, one more thing.

01:23:52.240 --> 01:24:01.640
Just because you're going to, to let you know right now, our fee, reconnect fee is the highest.

01:24:01.640 --> 01:24:07.800
I looked at five other water services in the county.

01:24:07.800 --> 01:24:11.480
Ours was the highest except for Arcata.

01:24:11.480 --> 01:24:16.120
It goes to 132 if disconnected three or more times.

01:24:16.120 --> 01:24:24.080
But other than that, you know, 78, 65, and then we go, that's for subsequent.

01:24:24.080 --> 01:24:27.120
Our begins at 75 and goes to 100.

01:24:27.120 --> 01:24:31.360
So just wanted to let you know, ours is high.

01:24:31.360 --> 01:24:32.360
Thank you.

01:24:32.360 --> 01:24:37.480
Does staff want to respond to any of that?

01:24:37.480 --> 01:24:42.840
I don't know if it is, but as we pointed out in this illustration, there's a lot of work

01:24:42.840 --> 01:24:47.800
before we actually get to turning a water meter off and that's part of the cost.

01:24:47.800 --> 01:24:52.800
And the point of this is, as was also made in the previous presentation, there's a cost

01:24:52.800 --> 01:24:54.160
of doing that.

01:24:54.160 --> 01:25:01.600
And so the approach of this, it's being paid for by the person that is requiring that additional

01:25:01.600 --> 01:25:06.380
notification service of the city and not the rest of the rate payers.

01:25:06.380 --> 01:25:11.400
This whole thing is about protecting the cost to all of our rate payers.

01:25:11.400 --> 01:25:16.960
And so if there are customers that require additional notifications such as mailings

01:25:16.960 --> 01:25:24.080
and bills and door hangers to remind them to keep their account current, we feel, staff

01:25:24.080 --> 01:25:31.040
as we presented these in other fee resolutions, they're putting that cost onto the customer

01:25:31.040 --> 01:25:34.320
that requires that service, not all the rate payers.

01:25:34.320 --> 01:25:39.520
Because as was pointed out, there is bad debt and bad debt is absorbed by the rate payers.

01:25:39.520 --> 01:25:41.040
Thank you.

01:25:41.040 --> 01:25:43.000
May I make a comment real quick?

01:25:43.000 --> 01:25:48.560
I just wanted to clarify something that I'm seeing that's not being understood is the

01:25:48.560 --> 01:25:52.960
whole 10 AM and your water is considered shut off.

01:25:52.960 --> 01:26:00.080
If there are 25 people that need to have their water service turned off, it takes them time

01:26:00.080 --> 01:26:02.320
to turn everyone's water off.

01:26:02.320 --> 01:26:10.360
So if the person whose water is shut off right at 10 AM comes in and has to pay a reconnection

01:26:10.360 --> 01:26:16.080
fee, why shouldn't the person whose water is scheduled to also be turned off that day

01:26:16.080 --> 01:26:20.600
but they didn't get to it until noon not have to pay that because they didn't get to their

01:26:20.600 --> 01:26:22.120
house by noon?

01:26:22.120 --> 01:26:27.440
So that's the reason why there's an absolute deadline for that reconnection fee.

01:26:27.440 --> 01:26:34.120
And then once their bill is paid again, the finance department is on the radio letting

01:26:34.120 --> 01:26:38.100
them know this water's been paid, please turn that water back on.

01:26:38.100 --> 01:26:43.720
And sometimes the payment is happening simultaneously with their water being turned off.

01:26:43.720 --> 01:26:47.400
So they may come in saying, I'm here to pay my bill, it hasn't been shut off yet.

01:26:47.400 --> 01:26:50.680
But while they're in there, their water could be shut off.

01:26:50.680 --> 01:26:53.320
So that's the reason for that 10 AM deadline.

01:26:53.320 --> 01:26:57.560
You can't give the person whose water hasn't been shut off until noon a free ride just

01:26:57.560 --> 01:27:02.520
because their house is further down the road than the person who shut off at 10 AM.

01:27:02.520 --> 01:27:07.520
Everyone is treated the same and that's why everything that's sent to them says 10 AM.

01:27:07.520 --> 01:27:09.840
That's to be fair to everyone.

01:27:09.840 --> 01:27:10.840
Thank you.

01:27:10.840 --> 01:27:11.840
I just wanted to clear that up.

01:27:11.840 --> 01:27:14.080
I did that for a long time and that's always been our policy.

01:27:14.080 --> 01:27:15.760
So I wanted to clear it up.

01:27:15.760 --> 01:27:16.760
Thank you.

01:27:16.760 --> 01:27:20.720
Mr. Mayor, make a motion to close public comment period.

01:27:20.720 --> 01:27:21.720
Second.

01:27:21.720 --> 01:27:24.640
It's been moved and seconded to close public comment period.

01:27:24.640 --> 01:27:26.640
All in favor signify by saying aye.

01:27:26.640 --> 01:27:27.640
Aye.

01:27:27.640 --> 01:27:28.640
All opposed?

01:27:28.640 --> 01:27:29.640
So closed.

01:27:29.640 --> 01:27:32.920
I just had a mic with a question.

01:27:32.920 --> 01:27:38.680
I had to step out, but was there any discussion about delaying payment with the contractor's

01:27:38.680 --> 01:27:42.080
development fees?

01:27:42.080 --> 01:27:45.360
That was brought up the last time, I believe.

01:27:45.360 --> 01:27:49.480
If you recall at the workshop we talked about it and it was a question whether there was

01:27:49.480 --> 01:27:52.860
still some interest in doing that.

01:27:52.860 --> 01:27:57.320
We have not received any communication from anyone officially either by letter, by phone

01:27:57.320 --> 01:27:58.860
call that I knew of.

01:27:58.860 --> 01:28:04.400
If that's something the council would like to do again, we can bring it to you at another

01:28:04.400 --> 01:28:05.400
meeting.

01:28:05.400 --> 01:28:11.840
But right now without any other action, the action from last year will end I believe on

01:28:11.840 --> 01:28:13.280
June 30th.

01:28:13.280 --> 01:28:21.200
For anyone that's in the cycle now and I think we only have one, that will continue on until

01:28:21.200 --> 01:28:24.000
the house is occupied.

01:28:24.000 --> 01:28:28.360
So it stays in effect while it's under construction no matter.

01:28:28.360 --> 01:28:33.240
But it would mean that there are no new ones unless the council so directs us to go ahead

01:28:33.240 --> 01:28:34.920
and bring it back to you.

01:28:34.920 --> 01:28:41.840
But after our workshop meeting, I did not again hear any interest to do that.

01:28:41.840 --> 01:28:46.480
I thought the idea had some merit and I know that there was some discussion about that

01:28:46.480 --> 01:28:51.760
and I thought that we were going to have additional discussion or maybe just include it back in

01:28:51.760 --> 01:28:54.920
for our purposes for the city.

01:28:54.920 --> 01:29:03.160
It is virtually no risk because there are liens placed on the property that ensure payment

01:29:03.160 --> 01:29:09.160
at some point in the future.

01:29:09.160 --> 01:29:13.240
If there's interest from other folks.

01:29:13.240 --> 01:29:16.600
There was one public speaker that expressed an interest in the meeting when we talked

01:29:16.600 --> 01:29:17.600
about it.

01:29:17.600 --> 01:29:22.560
I believe we asked if there were others out there because the numbers didn't look good,

01:29:22.560 --> 01:29:28.040
none out of so many and if there were others out there that might want to avail themselves

01:29:28.040 --> 01:29:34.000
of the procedure to come forward and talk to us and apparently none did.

01:29:34.000 --> 01:29:36.160
So it expires.

01:29:36.160 --> 01:29:43.120
I don't like delayed obligations of payment.

01:29:43.120 --> 01:29:48.520
It occurred with $17,000 lost from the Paris subdivision that we never collected on because

01:29:48.520 --> 01:29:54.200
of it slipping through the loopholes in City Hall.

01:29:54.200 --> 01:30:03.160
Sidewalk repayment grants, not granting, but loans that were sort of lost in the shuffle

01:30:03.160 --> 01:30:06.600
and this was experimental.

01:30:06.600 --> 01:30:11.600
It showed that there was not enough overwhelming reception by the billing community.

01:30:11.600 --> 01:30:18.720
It didn't stimulate a lot of houses being built on speculation so I'm definitely in

01:30:18.720 --> 01:30:22.600
favor of eliminating it and not perpetuating it.

01:30:22.600 --> 01:30:26.440
Well we don't have to eliminate it automatically.

01:30:26.440 --> 01:30:30.920
We can bring it back again but right this current fiscal year it's off the grid.

01:30:30.920 --> 01:30:37.480
It's not going to be continued.

01:30:37.480 --> 01:30:41.480
Mr. Mayor, you need a resolution to start off the race.

01:30:41.480 --> 01:30:48.560
I would like to make a motion to approve resolution 2011-15 resolution of the City Council of

01:30:48.560 --> 01:30:53.000
the City of Fortuna's continuing water and sewer rates and fees for the City of Fortuna

01:30:53.000 --> 01:30:59.880
established for fiscal year 2010-11 into fiscal year 2011 and 12.

01:30:59.880 --> 01:31:04.760
May I have a friendly amendment to that resolution?

01:31:04.760 --> 01:31:09.840
That the et cetera's be removed from that verbiage in that item?

01:31:09.840 --> 01:31:14.700
Sir, every you pointed out et cetera's that would be passed on to staff's responsibility

01:31:14.700 --> 01:31:17.040
to direct.

01:31:17.040 --> 01:31:21.160
Second.

01:31:21.160 --> 01:31:27.600
It's been moved and seconded to approve resolution 2011-15 a resolution of the City Council of

01:31:27.600 --> 01:31:33.120
the City of Fortuna continuing the water and sewer rates and fees for the City of Fortuna

01:31:33.120 --> 01:31:42.760
established for fiscal year 2010-11 into fiscal year 2011-12.

01:31:42.760 --> 01:31:43.760
Councilmember Glazer?

01:31:43.760 --> 01:31:44.760
Yes ma'am.

01:31:44.760 --> 01:31:45.760
Councilmember Long?

01:31:45.760 --> 01:31:46.760
Yes.

01:31:46.760 --> 01:31:47.760
Councilmember Losey?

01:31:47.760 --> 01:31:48.760
Yes.

01:31:48.760 --> 01:31:49.760
Mayor Pro Temzansi?

01:31:49.760 --> 01:31:50.760
Yes.

01:31:50.760 --> 01:31:51.760
Mayor Stroud?

01:31:51.760 --> 01:31:52.760
Yes.

01:31:52.760 --> 01:32:01.360
Mr. Mayor, I make a motion to adopt resolution 2011-16 setting City Manager's City Clerk's

01:32:01.360 --> 01:32:04.280
fees and read by title only.

01:32:04.280 --> 01:32:05.280
Et cetera's.

01:32:05.280 --> 01:32:09.320
And et cetera's that have been pointed out by none in that group?

01:32:09.320 --> 01:32:10.320
None.

01:32:10.320 --> 01:32:11.320
None in that group?

01:32:11.320 --> 01:32:12.320
No.

01:32:12.320 --> 01:32:13.320
Oh okay.

01:32:13.320 --> 01:32:14.320
It's not just the first.

01:32:14.320 --> 01:32:15.320
It's got a list.

01:32:15.320 --> 01:32:16.320
Second that.

01:32:16.320 --> 01:32:22.360
It's been moved and seconded to approve resolution number 2011-16 a resolution of the City of

01:32:22.360 --> 01:32:29.240
Fortuna establishing a schedule of fees and charges for the City Manager and City Clerk.

01:32:29.240 --> 01:32:31.560
Councilmember Glazer?

01:32:31.560 --> 01:32:32.560
Yes ma'am.

01:32:32.560 --> 01:32:33.560
Councilmember Long?

01:32:33.560 --> 01:32:34.560
Yes.

01:32:34.560 --> 01:32:35.560
Councilmember Losey?

01:32:35.560 --> 01:32:36.560
Yes.

01:32:36.560 --> 01:32:37.560
Mayor Pro Temzansi?

01:32:37.560 --> 01:32:38.560
Yes.

01:32:38.560 --> 01:32:39.560
Mayor Stroud?

01:32:39.560 --> 01:32:40.560
Yes.

01:32:40.560 --> 01:32:46.400
I'll go ahead and move to adopt resolution 2011-17 setting community development, development

01:32:46.400 --> 01:32:49.040
review fees and read by title only.

01:32:49.040 --> 01:32:54.720
And I would like to add onto that the page 180 to remove the fund that states the fees

01:32:54.720 --> 01:32:59.160
collected under the section will be paid in the collector and arterial street improvement

01:32:59.160 --> 01:33:02.240
fund that would be removed.

01:33:02.240 --> 01:33:03.240
And I concur.

01:33:03.240 --> 01:33:04.240
Along with et cetera's.

01:33:04.240 --> 01:33:05.240
Et cetera's, yes sir.

01:33:05.240 --> 01:33:06.240
And et cetera's, yes.

01:33:06.240 --> 01:33:07.240
Councilmember Glazer?

01:33:07.240 --> 01:33:10.240
Oh I'm sorry you have to read it.

01:33:10.240 --> 01:33:11.240
I second the motion.

01:33:11.240 --> 01:33:12.240
It's been moved and seconded.

01:33:12.240 --> 01:33:18.480
It's been moved and seconded to approve resolution number 2011-17 a resolution of the City of

01:33:18.480 --> 01:33:23.240
Fortuna establishing a schedule of fees and charges for the community development and

01:33:23.240 --> 01:33:27.400
development review.

01:33:27.400 --> 01:33:28.400
Councilmember Glazer?

01:33:28.400 --> 01:33:29.400
Yes ma'am.

01:33:29.400 --> 01:33:30.400
Councilmember Long?

01:33:30.400 --> 01:33:31.400
Yes.

01:33:31.400 --> 01:33:32.400
Councilmember Losey?

01:33:32.400 --> 01:33:33.400
Yes.

01:33:33.400 --> 01:33:34.400
Mayor Pro Temzansi?

01:33:34.400 --> 01:33:35.400
Yes.

01:33:35.400 --> 01:33:36.400
Mayor Stroud?

01:33:36.400 --> 01:33:37.400
Yes.

01:33:37.400 --> 01:33:43.520
And I'll move to adopt resolution 2011-18 setting community development building permit

01:33:43.520 --> 01:33:46.400
fees and read by title only.

01:33:46.400 --> 01:33:47.400
Including the et cetera's.

01:33:47.400 --> 01:33:48.400
Yes.

01:33:48.400 --> 01:33:49.400
Clean up the et cetera's.

01:33:49.400 --> 01:33:51.400
I second the motion.

01:33:51.400 --> 01:33:57.880
It's been moved and seconded to approve resolution 2011-18 a resolution of the City of Fortuna

01:33:57.880 --> 01:34:04.280
establishing a schedule of fees and charges for the community development and building.

01:34:04.280 --> 01:34:05.280
Roll call please.

01:34:05.280 --> 01:34:06.280
Councilmember Glazer?

01:34:06.280 --> 01:34:07.280
Yes ma'am.

01:34:07.280 --> 01:34:08.280
Councilmember Long?

01:34:08.280 --> 01:34:09.280
Yes.

01:34:09.280 --> 01:34:10.280
Councilmember Losey?

01:34:10.280 --> 01:34:11.280
Yes.

01:34:11.280 --> 01:34:12.280
Mayor Pro Temzansi?

01:34:12.280 --> 01:34:13.280
Yes.

01:34:13.280 --> 01:34:14.280
Mayor Stroud?

01:34:14.280 --> 01:34:15.720
Yes.

01:34:15.720 --> 01:34:21.560
Councilmember Losey?

01:34:21.560 --> 01:34:24.560
Yes.

01:34:24.560 --> 01:34:49.320
And I'll move to adopt resolution 2011-19 a resolution of the City of Fortuna establishing

01:34:49.320 --> 01:34:57.280
a schedule of fees and charges for police and animal control.

01:34:57.280 --> 01:34:58.280
Roll call please.

01:34:58.280 --> 01:34:59.280
Councilmember Losey?

01:34:59.280 --> 01:35:00.280
Yes.

01:35:00.280 --> 01:35:01.280
Mayor Stroud?

01:35:01.280 --> 01:35:02.280
Yes.

01:35:02.280 --> 01:35:09.680
Mr. Mayor I move to adopt resolution 2011-20 setting police fees and animal control fees

01:35:09.680 --> 01:35:11.120
and read by title only.

01:35:11.120 --> 01:35:12.120
I'll second that.

01:35:12.120 --> 01:35:13.120
It's been moved and seconded to.

01:35:13.120 --> 01:35:14.120
None.

01:35:14.120 --> 01:35:17.120
It's been moved and seconded to approve resolution number 2011-20 a resolution of the City of

01:35:17.120 --> 01:35:21.560
Fortuna establishing a schedule of fees and animal control fees and read by title only.

01:35:21.560 --> 01:35:22.960
I'll move to adopt resolution 21.

01:35:22.960 --> 01:35:23.960
Councilmember Glazer?

01:35:23.960 --> 01:35:24.960
Yes.

01:35:24.960 --> 01:35:25.960
Councilmember Long?

01:35:25.960 --> 01:35:26.960
Yes.

01:35:26.960 --> 01:35:27.960
Councilmember Losey?

01:35:27.960 --> 01:35:28.960
Yes.

01:35:28.960 --> 01:35:29.960
Mayor Pro Temzansi?

01:35:29.960 --> 01:35:30.960
Yes.

01:35:30.960 --> 01:35:31.960
Mayor Stroud?

01:35:31.960 --> 01:35:32.960
Yes.

01:35:32.960 --> 01:35:34.560
Mr. Mayor I make a motion to adopt resolution 2011-21 setting River Lodge Conference Center

01:35:34.560 --> 01:35:40.260
and Monday Club facility fees and read by title only.

01:35:40.260 --> 01:35:41.260
Second.

01:35:41.260 --> 01:35:46.720
It's been moved and seconded to approve resolution number 2011-21 a resolution of the City of

01:35:46.720 --> 01:35:51.680
Fortuna establishing a schedule of fees and charges for River Lodge Conference Center

01:35:51.680 --> 01:35:53.320
and the Monday Club.

01:35:53.320 --> 01:35:54.320
Roll call please.

01:35:54.320 --> 01:35:55.320
Councilmember Glazer?

01:35:55.320 --> 01:35:56.320
Yes ma'am.

01:35:56.320 --> 01:35:57.320
Councilmember Long?

01:35:57.320 --> 01:35:58.320
Yes.

01:35:58.320 --> 01:35:59.320
Councilmember Losey?

01:35:59.320 --> 01:36:00.320
Yes.

01:36:00.320 --> 01:36:01.320
Mayor Pro Temzansi?

01:36:01.320 --> 01:36:02.320
Yes.

01:36:02.320 --> 01:36:03.320
Mayor Stroud?

01:36:03.320 --> 01:36:04.320
Yes.

01:36:04.320 --> 01:36:10.880
Mr. Mayor I make a motion to adopt resolution 2011-22 setting transit fees and read by title

01:36:10.880 --> 01:36:11.880
only.

01:36:11.880 --> 01:36:12.880
Second.

01:36:12.880 --> 01:36:22.000
It's been moved and seconded to approve resolution number 2011-22 a resolution of the City of

01:36:22.000 --> 01:36:27.280
Fortuna establishing a schedule of fees and charges for transit.

01:36:27.280 --> 01:36:28.280
Councilmember Glazer?

01:36:28.280 --> 01:36:29.280
Yes ma'am.

01:36:29.280 --> 01:36:30.280
Councilmember Long?

01:36:30.280 --> 01:36:31.280
Yes.

01:36:31.280 --> 01:36:32.280
Councilmember Losey?

01:36:32.280 --> 01:36:33.280
Yes.

01:36:33.280 --> 01:36:34.280
Mayor Pro Temzansi?

01:36:34.280 --> 01:36:35.280
Yes.

01:36:35.280 --> 01:36:36.280
Mayor Stroud?

01:36:36.280 --> 01:36:37.280
Yes.

01:36:37.280 --> 01:36:48.760
And last here we have a motion to adopt resolution 2011-23 setting water and wastewater laboratory

01:36:48.760 --> 01:36:51.120
fees and read by title only.

01:36:51.120 --> 01:36:52.680
I'll second.

01:36:52.680 --> 01:36:59.160
It's been moved and seconded to approve resolution number 2011-23 a resolution of the City of

01:36:59.160 --> 01:37:04.960
Fortuna establishing a schedule of fees and charges for water and wastewater laboratory.

01:37:04.960 --> 01:37:05.960
Roll call please.

01:37:05.960 --> 01:37:06.960
Councilmember Glazer?

01:37:06.960 --> 01:37:07.960
Yes ma'am.

01:37:07.960 --> 01:37:08.960
Councilmember Long?

01:37:08.960 --> 01:37:09.960
Yes.

01:37:09.960 --> 01:37:10.960
Councilmember Losey?

01:37:10.960 --> 01:37:11.960
Yes.

01:37:11.960 --> 01:37:12.960
Mayor Pro Temzansi?

01:37:12.960 --> 01:37:13.960
Yes.

01:37:13.960 --> 01:37:14.960
Mayor Stroud?

01:37:14.960 --> 01:37:15.960
Yes.

01:37:15.960 --> 01:37:20.840
That was, I got through that one.

01:37:20.840 --> 01:37:24.480
I tried to talk him into letting us do it all at once but they wouldn't let me.

01:37:24.480 --> 01:37:26.600
Is that a fight in between over there?

01:37:26.600 --> 01:37:27.600
Are you sure?

01:37:27.600 --> 01:37:31.600
Because he might have just said it depends.

01:37:31.600 --> 01:37:35.320
No he didn't say it depends though.

01:37:35.320 --> 01:37:36.320
Maybe.

01:37:36.320 --> 01:37:37.320
Okay.

01:37:37.320 --> 01:37:44.040
Moving on to item E is to designate a city's voting delegate at the annual League of Cities

01:37:44.040 --> 01:37:47.440
meeting.

01:37:47.440 --> 01:37:52.000
Each year the League of California cities request that each council, each city designate

01:37:52.000 --> 01:37:58.000
a voting delegate or an alternative, alternates to vote at the League of California cities

01:37:58.000 --> 01:38:00.740
policies at the annual meeting.

01:38:00.740 --> 01:38:05.680
The annual meeting this year for the League of California cities is in San Francisco and

01:38:05.680 --> 01:38:11.880
I know Councilmember Glauser has stated he is interested in attending that conference.

01:38:11.880 --> 01:38:18.040
In the past this action, let me back up, this action has to be taken by the City Council

01:38:18.040 --> 01:38:19.040
directly.

01:38:19.040 --> 01:38:27.120
It has to be by a vote because we register that and any voting delegates or their alternates

01:38:27.120 --> 01:38:37.280
are noted and receive a special voting delegation, I guess voting paddle and are segregated from

01:38:37.280 --> 01:38:41.680
the rest of the audience when the League goes into the actual voting on the various annual

01:38:41.680 --> 01:38:43.880
policies adoption.

01:38:43.880 --> 01:38:46.880
Some years it's very perfunctory.

01:38:46.880 --> 01:38:52.560
Certainly I've attended some meetings where this whole voting thing has extended for hours

01:38:52.560 --> 01:38:55.360
on controversial issues.

01:38:55.360 --> 01:39:01.080
It's amazing how dynamic the state is in its political stance and it's certainly demonstrated

01:39:01.080 --> 01:39:07.080
on how different cities act on various issues including internal policy of the League.

01:39:07.080 --> 01:39:12.760
So anyway the items in front of you for your action, it's really up to you.

01:39:12.760 --> 01:39:17.960
This year and last year I did not attend the League conference as we have in the past and

01:39:17.960 --> 01:39:23.040
I believe last year only Councilmember Glauser attended.

01:39:23.040 --> 01:39:27.200
Last year we did not go to San Diego because it was not cost effective and inappropriate

01:39:27.200 --> 01:39:28.480
for us to spend the time for that.

01:39:28.480 --> 01:39:31.760
I'm remembering the past.

01:39:31.760 --> 01:39:35.880
The world will not come to an end if we don't have anyone there to vote on it.

01:39:35.880 --> 01:39:41.160
I don't know what's on even being proposed for voting by the League this year but our

01:39:41.160 --> 01:39:46.240
focus has been predominantly on still trying to resolve state issues and their problem

01:39:46.240 --> 01:39:48.240
with their own budget.

01:39:48.240 --> 01:39:49.240
That's my staff report.

01:39:49.240 --> 01:39:54.720
It's your choice as to how you want to proceed with this.

01:39:54.720 --> 01:40:00.440
Just so everyone knows, Dean has been our voting delegate for two or three.

01:40:00.440 --> 01:40:03.440
How many of you?

01:40:03.440 --> 01:40:04.440
Four.

01:40:04.440 --> 01:40:05.440
Four.

01:40:05.440 --> 01:40:09.320
Anyway, so we voted him even though there was times there was three or four of us at

01:40:09.320 --> 01:40:10.320
the meeting.

01:40:10.320 --> 01:40:16.720
Dean was the one that stayed a little longer because that part of the meeting of that conference

01:40:16.720 --> 01:40:18.720
goes later on in the day.

01:40:18.720 --> 01:40:28.920
The most controversial was in San Diego about five years ago when all of us except for Mel

01:40:28.920 --> 01:40:32.520
Bertie could not – we attended and he stayed home.

01:40:32.520 --> 01:40:37.560
I was the voting delegate and there were three caucuses that were requesting to have voting

01:40:37.560 --> 01:40:43.160
powers which turned out to be so controversial that it was amazing.

01:40:43.160 --> 01:40:46.880
Everybody left saying, bye-bye, see you later.

01:40:46.880 --> 01:40:53.520
The nice part about that was that we had to leave because Saturday was the centennial

01:40:53.520 --> 01:41:00.360
of the city and we had to cook hot dogs and hamburgers for the city.

01:41:00.360 --> 01:41:01.840
Rest of the council had to get back here.

01:41:01.840 --> 01:41:04.920
Dean opted to sit through the meeting and take care of us down there.

01:41:04.920 --> 01:41:09.240
I got to carry on a conversation with a Nigerian cab driver to the airport.

01:41:09.240 --> 01:41:10.240
It was good.

01:41:10.240 --> 01:41:15.240
Anyway, I think it's important if anybody really wants to go to this because you got

01:41:15.240 --> 01:41:19.040
a little taste of a league of cities when we went down to the training earlier this

01:41:19.040 --> 01:41:20.040
year.

01:41:20.040 --> 01:41:25.080
This one will be – I think it's three days but there is classes on numerous things

01:41:25.080 --> 01:41:26.080
you can go to.

01:41:26.080 --> 01:41:32.480
Your day can be full for beginning to end and it's really neat to get in there and

01:41:32.480 --> 01:41:34.480
learn the different aspects.

01:41:34.480 --> 01:41:37.680
More than one goes, you can cover more areas.

01:41:37.680 --> 01:41:40.960
The last one we all sat in the same room, heard the same thing.

01:41:40.960 --> 01:41:43.040
This one's divided up into different classes.

01:41:43.040 --> 01:41:48.640
If anybody wants to go, if we can figure out a way to squeeze it out of the budget, people

01:41:48.640 --> 01:41:49.640
should go.

01:41:49.640 --> 01:41:54.640
I've been to two or three of them and they're well – they're worth it.

01:41:54.640 --> 01:41:58.840
They are very interesting and you point to their very informational field.

01:41:58.840 --> 01:42:04.680
League does, I think, a fantastic job of putting a manual conference on for all their members,

01:42:04.680 --> 01:42:06.440
which is all the cities in California.

01:42:06.440 --> 01:42:08.400
What is it, September?

01:42:08.400 --> 01:42:09.400
Next fiscal year?

01:42:09.400 --> 01:42:13.600
Next fiscal year, you'll be talking about that budget tomorrow.

01:42:13.600 --> 01:42:14.600
Budgets tomorrow.

01:42:14.600 --> 01:42:15.600
Okay.

01:42:15.600 --> 01:42:18.480
It's September – Wednesday, September 21st.

01:42:18.480 --> 01:42:23.840
You have to show up the 22nd, Thursday and then the voting is done on the 23rd, Friday

01:42:23.840 --> 01:42:25.700
and then you come home.

01:42:25.700 --> 01:42:30.840
So it's Wednesday to 21st, 22nd and then Friday is the voting and then you return home.

01:42:30.840 --> 01:42:32.240
It's in San Francisco?

01:42:32.240 --> 01:42:35.880
Yes, Moscone Center.

01:42:35.880 --> 01:42:40.400
And they do cover a lot and there's also a trade show in the middle of all of it and

01:42:40.400 --> 01:42:45.680
you can go into the main hall and see all the vendors that sell the cities and see all

01:42:45.680 --> 01:42:46.680
the new products.

01:42:46.680 --> 01:42:51.280
It was really interesting when we were looking for street lights uptown.

01:42:51.280 --> 01:42:55.000
You could go see all the different vendors to understand what they had.

01:42:55.000 --> 01:42:56.000
I was there.

01:42:56.000 --> 01:43:00.160
That's where Dean found out about it.

01:43:00.160 --> 01:43:04.760
Permeable concrete that I keep on wanting Humboldt County to have.

01:43:04.760 --> 01:43:07.600
But you know, it's things like that, you know, it's stuff when you get out and get

01:43:07.600 --> 01:43:09.640
around these people you can learn a lot.

01:43:09.640 --> 01:43:12.160
So something we ought to think about.

01:43:12.160 --> 01:43:15.640
But at this time what we're going to do is we have to pick – we can all go to it

01:43:15.640 --> 01:43:19.080
if we can come up with the money or a couple of us, but we do need to pick a person to

01:43:19.080 --> 01:43:21.640
stick around on Saturday to represent the city for the –

01:43:21.640 --> 01:43:25.040
A voting delegate and an alternate?

01:43:25.040 --> 01:43:28.480
We could do that, yes.

01:43:28.480 --> 01:43:30.800
Well I just – okay.

01:43:30.800 --> 01:43:35.360
We're not making a decision yet.

01:43:35.360 --> 01:43:37.400
I know I should open public comment.

01:43:37.400 --> 01:43:41.520
One reason I always have a problem with this is because for a long time we opened public

01:43:41.520 --> 01:43:44.840
comment before the councils talked.

01:43:44.840 --> 01:43:49.360
And we used to get a lot of flack for talking a lot afterwards.

01:43:49.360 --> 01:43:52.320
So I've been trying to get the council to get the talking out of the way so that the

01:43:52.320 --> 01:43:56.600
public can chime in on what we've talked about instead of the other way around.

01:43:56.600 --> 01:43:58.800
But by doing that it puts me right up against the wire.

01:43:58.800 --> 01:44:00.960
So I keep forgetting to open the public comment.

01:44:00.960 --> 01:44:03.400
So I apologize for that.

01:44:03.400 --> 01:44:08.440
So I'd like to open public comment right now if anyone would like to speak on this.

01:44:08.440 --> 01:44:11.680
Move to close public comment.

01:44:11.680 --> 01:44:12.680
Second.

01:44:12.680 --> 01:44:15.560
I very much second that might be conflict of interest.

01:44:15.560 --> 01:44:18.280
Yeah, you can second.

01:44:18.280 --> 01:44:20.120
The move is to second it to close public comment.

01:44:20.120 --> 01:44:22.120
All in favor signify by saying aye.

01:44:22.120 --> 01:44:23.120
Aye.

01:44:23.120 --> 01:44:24.120
Opposed?

01:44:24.120 --> 01:44:25.120
Closed.

01:44:25.120 --> 01:44:31.160
Who wants to be our alternate?

01:44:31.160 --> 01:44:37.080
Actually going just to see how the process works and everything.

01:44:37.080 --> 01:44:40.320
I would like to at some point too but that's right after my daughter's wedding.

01:44:40.320 --> 01:44:45.680
I think I'm not going to be just going to have to do some work at my real job.

01:44:45.680 --> 01:44:49.800
It doesn't bother me to have another person serve as a delegate.

01:44:49.800 --> 01:44:53.600
I'd rather share it, let everybody experience it.

01:44:53.600 --> 01:45:00.920
But last year Dennis got up and said I think we should have a representative but I said

01:45:00.920 --> 01:45:04.440
the cost factor was so far down there and they really didn't vote on anything that was

01:45:04.440 --> 01:45:09.080
important and you really don't know what's going to be brought up at the last minute

01:45:09.080 --> 01:45:10.480
as a proposal.

01:45:10.480 --> 01:45:15.480
So it might be some sneaky little thing that might affect us, might not affect us.

01:45:15.480 --> 01:45:17.080
But the distance is not that bad.

01:45:17.080 --> 01:45:19.800
It's not that controversial.

01:45:19.800 --> 01:45:26.280
And I think it would actually embrace a couple members going.

01:45:26.280 --> 01:45:31.840
It is a lot of fun and I said the classes, sometimes the classes are redundant and other

01:45:31.840 --> 01:45:36.880
times the classes are interesting because you know who the council person might be or

01:45:36.880 --> 01:45:41.760
city manager that's teaching it and doing that hours discussion.

01:45:41.760 --> 01:45:46.960
And it's also a chance to co-partner with people that you've met in the past to find

01:45:46.960 --> 01:45:51.760
out what they've been doing because we actually have been helped by finding out new ideas

01:45:51.760 --> 01:45:55.240
that we've never thought about and somebody's already experienced that, done it, walked

01:45:55.240 --> 01:45:59.560
it and we get to learn from their expertise and we get to apply it.

01:45:59.560 --> 01:46:04.520
So however we network, it's a win-win-win.

01:46:04.520 --> 01:46:12.360
And so if you want to have two of us go, I'd definitely like to be a voting delegate or

01:46:12.360 --> 01:46:18.080
if Mike wants to be the one that stays and I can jump ship bail faster, that's even better.

01:46:18.080 --> 01:46:22.000
No, I'd just as soon have you be the voting delegate.

01:46:22.000 --> 01:46:24.520
I would just like to see how the process works.

01:46:24.520 --> 01:46:26.840
Ken, you said you have not been?

01:46:26.840 --> 01:46:28.840
You want to go?

01:46:28.840 --> 01:46:30.360
You're welcome to go.

01:46:30.360 --> 01:46:40.240
So therefore I'll make the motion to designate Councilmember Dean Glauser as our voting delegate

01:46:40.240 --> 01:46:46.720
and Councilmember Mike Losey as our first alternate and Councilmember Zanzi, Mayor Pro Tem, as

01:46:46.720 --> 01:46:53.400
our second alternate for the annual League of California Cities meeting.

01:46:53.400 --> 01:46:56.680
I'll second that.

01:46:56.680 --> 01:46:59.480
Any discussion on that?

01:46:59.480 --> 01:47:05.560
It's been moved and seconded to nominate Dean Glauser as our voting delegate and Ken Zanzi

01:47:05.560 --> 01:47:10.880
and Mike Losey as our alternates and it's a voice vote.

01:47:10.880 --> 01:47:12.880
So all in favor signify by saying aye.

01:47:12.880 --> 01:47:13.880
Aye.

01:47:13.880 --> 01:47:14.880
Opposed?

01:47:14.880 --> 01:47:15.880
So passed.

01:47:15.880 --> 01:47:18.880
We'll talk to Linda.

01:47:18.880 --> 01:47:21.880
Travels are.

01:47:21.880 --> 01:47:30.480
Is there a flyer on that?

01:47:30.480 --> 01:47:31.480
Yes.

01:47:31.480 --> 01:47:33.480
There's some out.

01:47:33.480 --> 01:47:35.400
We'll have to get you something.

01:47:35.400 --> 01:47:41.440
We've had some cut up dates where the lodging has already been started to be opened.

01:47:41.440 --> 01:47:49.480
I'll have to talk to my Mary Creasy.

01:47:49.480 --> 01:47:52.040
Maybe a trailer on Mission Street might be better.

01:47:52.040 --> 01:47:53.600
It's closer.

01:47:53.600 --> 01:47:54.600
Yeah.

01:47:54.600 --> 01:48:01.360
So let's move on before we get in trouble here.

01:48:01.360 --> 01:48:04.600
Next is the City Manager's report.

01:48:04.600 --> 01:48:05.600
Thank you.

01:48:05.600 --> 01:48:11.800
You have my written report of the upcoming particular council meetings that we have and

01:48:11.800 --> 01:48:19.200
reminder tomorrow and maybe even Wednesday, depending on how much we get done tomorrow,

01:48:19.200 --> 01:48:21.600
is our budget workshop with the council.

01:48:21.600 --> 01:48:25.680
It won't be a televised meeting but it will be here and the public's invited and we're

01:48:25.680 --> 01:48:34.320
starting at 4 p.m. and going until you say you're done or until we continue it into Wednesday

01:48:34.320 --> 01:48:36.120
if necessary.

01:48:36.120 --> 01:48:38.860
Then the next council meeting will be on Tuesday.

01:48:38.860 --> 01:48:45.000
Next regular meeting will be on Tuesday, July 5th because Monday the 4th is a holiday for

01:48:45.000 --> 01:48:47.120
the city.

01:48:47.120 --> 01:48:51.920
Other than that, we're going forward with our regular meetings and as I mentioned on

01:48:51.920 --> 01:48:57.880
July 5th, I didn't mention on July 5th, you also have a special council meeting scheduled

01:48:57.880 --> 01:49:07.280
for 8.30 a.m. on that Tuesday morning to take up another workshop issue.

01:49:07.280 --> 01:49:11.000
Other than that, oh, excuse me, I got to remember turning the page.

01:49:11.000 --> 01:49:18.800
We have been moving these proposed water and sewer rates for fiscal year 2011, 2012, all

01:49:18.800 --> 01:49:24.640
the way through 2016 workshop for you to Monday, July 25th.

01:49:24.640 --> 01:49:29.600
So it's a ways off and we hope to get you that information well in advance so you have

01:49:29.600 --> 01:49:31.720
a couple weeks to study it.

01:49:31.720 --> 01:49:39.080
And again, what staff is going to present to you is several different alternative ways

01:49:39.080 --> 01:49:44.200
to look at water sewer rates for the next five years.

01:49:44.200 --> 01:49:49.720
Other than that, I have no other issues or items to bring forward to you.

01:49:49.720 --> 01:49:56.960
Just to amaze me again this year, the state's inability to adopt a budget or even get a

01:49:56.960 --> 01:49:59.000
budget proposed that makes sense.

01:49:59.000 --> 01:50:01.520
But other than that, I have no other comments.

01:50:01.520 --> 01:50:05.560
If you have some questions, I maybe can answer them.

01:50:05.560 --> 01:50:07.760
Does anyone have any questions of Dwayne?

01:50:07.760 --> 01:50:13.400
If not, we'll move on to City Council's report and comments.

01:50:13.400 --> 01:50:15.400
Mr. Glauser.

01:50:15.400 --> 01:50:18.600
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

01:50:18.600 --> 01:50:26.560
I attended the Environmental Equality Committee meeting on the 17th, both the 16th and the

01:50:26.560 --> 01:50:29.720
17th prior to the meeting times.

01:50:29.720 --> 01:50:33.760
The League of California Cities wanted to actually have those committees get together

01:50:33.760 --> 01:50:43.480
for an informational statement by Chris McKenzie, the Executive Director for League of California

01:50:43.480 --> 01:50:44.480
Cities.

01:50:44.480 --> 01:50:49.040
League of California Cities is a joint powers authority that we belong to and it is very,

01:50:49.040 --> 01:50:51.400
very beneficial for us.

01:50:51.400 --> 01:50:54.120
They are our partner for representation in the state capital.

01:50:54.120 --> 01:50:57.000
They go and talk to the politicians directly.

01:50:57.000 --> 01:51:01.200
We have our say based on what our votes are.

01:51:01.200 --> 01:51:10.480
As all of us know, last November, 2010, we voted past Prop 22, which was to prevent the

01:51:10.480 --> 01:51:18.720
legislators from taking from public safety, redevelopment, and transportation.

01:51:18.720 --> 01:51:22.960
Transportation and public safety have been off the grid, although there are some things

01:51:22.960 --> 01:51:27.000
for public safety that has been usurped in our budget we'll be talking about.

01:51:27.000 --> 01:51:29.320
It's going to actually reflect that.

01:51:29.320 --> 01:51:31.640
But redevelopment.

01:51:31.640 --> 01:51:34.440
Constitutional amendment, letter of the law.

01:51:34.440 --> 01:51:36.480
Don't mess with the Constitution.

01:51:36.480 --> 01:51:42.280
Unfortunately, two of our representatives, Assemblyman Chesbrough and Senator Evans,

01:51:42.280 --> 01:51:45.360
voted yes on abolishing redevelopment.

01:51:45.360 --> 01:51:51.200
So all you Democrats out there that think these people walk on water, I got news for

01:51:51.200 --> 01:51:52.200
you.

01:51:52.200 --> 01:51:57.320
They took money away from you that actually provides the funding for mandated housing

01:51:57.320 --> 01:52:03.960
units that we are forced down our throats to provide for low income housing.

01:52:03.960 --> 01:52:10.440
And I'm curious to find out whether if, what I keep on discussing a little bit later, if

01:52:10.440 --> 01:52:15.640
it does happen, whether we get to renege on any mandates by the state legislature that

01:52:15.640 --> 01:52:18.080
those numbers are flushed down the toilet.

01:52:18.080 --> 01:52:20.720
We start off with zero.

01:52:20.720 --> 01:52:27.540
But anyway, Chris McKenzie pointed out that Assembly Bill 26 and 27, as well as Senate

01:52:27.540 --> 01:52:38.760
Bill 14 and 15 for funding of redevelopment that should have been never voted on and allowed

01:52:38.760 --> 01:52:45.200
to pass, they were a yes vote, strictly straight Democrat party saying yes.

01:52:45.200 --> 01:52:47.320
And the Republicans stood their ground and said no.

01:52:47.320 --> 01:52:51.040
But the numbers were against them and they lost.

01:52:51.040 --> 01:52:58.160
These two bills, the AB and the Senate's bills, are something that because the budget was

01:52:58.160 --> 01:53:04.040
vetoed by the governor, that they are pretty much standing alone.

01:53:04.040 --> 01:53:11.040
Constitutionally, legally, they cannot, as a legislature, reintroduce these bills or

01:53:11.040 --> 01:53:17.600
put them on trailer bills, that they have to be reintroduced once the budget is approved

01:53:17.600 --> 01:53:19.580
by the governor and signed.

01:53:19.580 --> 01:53:22.760
So that might happen in the next two weeks, it might happen in the next six weeks.

01:53:22.760 --> 01:53:30.640
But whenever the governor signs the final budget, then the redevelopment bills, to deny

01:53:30.640 --> 01:53:33.280
redevelopment, will be presented.

01:53:33.280 --> 01:53:39.680
And that is when the League of California cities plans to file a lawsuit against the

01:53:39.680 --> 01:53:44.800
state of California, in the Supreme Court of California, and contest it.

01:53:44.800 --> 01:53:49.320
And I've been saying that from the very get go that they should aggressively have done

01:53:49.320 --> 01:53:53.880
this, rather than trying to find a middle ground and make concessions about paying the

01:53:53.880 --> 01:53:57.860
schools, property taxes, and so forth, which is totally wrong.

01:53:57.860 --> 01:54:01.920
So I'm looking forward to the next month, what it provides, and I'm looking forward

01:54:01.920 --> 01:54:07.720
to see what kind of screaming and squealing Chesbrough and Evans will be doing, because

01:54:07.720 --> 01:54:09.720
they did us wrong.

01:54:09.720 --> 01:54:14.680
And everybody, this elected official, needs to tell them that.

01:54:14.680 --> 01:54:20.480
I do want to go back a little bit to what I said on public statement about Jerry Greer.

01:54:20.480 --> 01:54:28.000
I mean, a year ago when he was elected as first vice commander, he really didn't see

01:54:28.000 --> 01:54:30.760
the magnitude of what this position represents.

01:54:30.760 --> 01:54:33.120
I saw it.

01:54:33.120 --> 01:54:37.820
Being a political figure, I still don't feel myself as being any different than anybody

01:54:37.820 --> 01:54:40.940
else walking on the streets outside.

01:54:40.940 --> 01:54:50.480
But looking at Jerry Greer, he's one individual that was potentially going to become commander

01:54:50.480 --> 01:54:54.160
last June 12th on Sunday in Concord.

01:54:54.160 --> 01:54:57.380
There was that potential chance that somebody would run against him.

01:54:57.380 --> 01:55:02.080
During that year's period of time, he flew all over the United States, went to training

01:55:02.080 --> 01:55:10.440
back east, was representing the AMVETs, and he showed to those officials in AMVETs that

01:55:10.440 --> 01:55:11.440
he could do the job.

01:55:11.440 --> 01:55:14.160
He was potential to do that job.

01:55:14.160 --> 01:55:16.560
In Concord, there were 130 delegates.

01:55:16.560 --> 01:55:18.520
Not one person ran against him.

01:55:18.520 --> 01:55:20.600
He was uncontested.

01:55:20.600 --> 01:55:26.000
And the magnitude of that position is just awesome.

01:55:26.000 --> 01:55:29.000
There's only one president in the United States.

01:55:29.000 --> 01:55:31.860
There's only one governor in California.

01:55:31.860 --> 01:55:34.120
And there's one Jerry Greer as commander of AMVETs.

01:55:34.120 --> 01:55:36.160
And it's just totally awesome.

01:55:36.160 --> 01:55:37.240
And I keep on telling him that.

01:55:37.240 --> 01:55:40.160
And he's so humble that it's just incredible.

01:55:40.160 --> 01:55:47.280
And I'm just delighted to have somebody living in Fortuna that has that prestigious name

01:55:47.280 --> 01:55:48.900
and what it means.

01:55:48.900 --> 01:56:00.080
So I'm not trying to grind it in the ground, but it's awesome that he is one of our citizens.

01:56:00.080 --> 01:56:01.320
Sue can reiterate on this.

01:56:01.320 --> 01:56:05.440
In July 3rd, the fireworks, I'll leave it to that.

01:56:05.440 --> 01:56:09.520
July 4th, on Monday, there will be a parade in Ferndale.

01:56:09.520 --> 01:56:10.720
Fourth of July parade.

01:56:10.720 --> 01:56:14.200
As always, everybody's invited to that.

01:56:14.200 --> 01:56:18.160
There will also be a fireworks display at the Humboldt County Fairgrounds sponsored

01:56:18.160 --> 01:56:19.880
by Bear River Casino.

01:56:19.880 --> 01:56:22.160
Thank you very much for doing that.

01:56:22.160 --> 01:56:24.000
It's a wonderful public gesture.

01:56:24.000 --> 01:56:27.320
And say thank you to them when you go up to this casino

01:56:27.320 --> 01:56:30.080
because they don't get enough thank yous.

01:56:30.080 --> 01:56:39.120
Some of the comments that were made at the EQ meeting, there was one assembly bill that was trying

01:56:39.120 --> 01:56:43.800
to be promoted that was actually for private garbage companies

01:56:43.800 --> 01:56:47.960
that they would not be allowed to prevent other communities from coming

01:56:47.960 --> 01:56:51.000
in and bringing their waste, their solid waste.

01:56:51.000 --> 01:56:57.240
They're worried that if we were to want to take our solid waste and go to Anderson,

01:56:57.240 --> 01:57:00.080
that Anderson can say no, we're not going to take it.

01:57:00.080 --> 01:57:03.920
And if you had enough of those private enterprises doing that, not public,

01:57:03.920 --> 01:57:06.440
because public's not affected by this,

01:57:06.440 --> 01:57:11.960
if you had a private garbage company that said no, before long you might be wandering

01:57:11.960 --> 01:57:16.440
from Fortuna all the way down to San Diego if you were lucky to find some place to receive it.

01:57:16.440 --> 01:57:19.560
So it was considered controversial.

01:57:19.560 --> 01:57:23.160
But if it's your private enterprise, you're definitely going to want to make money

01:57:23.160 --> 01:57:28.400
and you're not going to turn away somebody that wants to make money off of your refuse.

01:57:28.400 --> 01:57:32.760
But anyway, that's going through the discussion.

01:57:32.760 --> 01:57:39.160
And there was one, we also discussed about marijuana cultivation and how

01:57:39.160 --> 01:57:41.600
that would have an effect on your community.

01:57:41.600 --> 01:57:49.080
And Mark Wheatley from Arcata provided his input to that to let them know how

01:57:49.080 --> 01:57:52.840
that affected them and what their jurisdictions, and each one of the jurisdictions,

01:57:52.840 --> 01:57:56.760
the cities provided their input about how they determine whether it was a code issue

01:57:56.760 --> 01:57:58.160
or zoning issue or so forth.

01:57:58.160 --> 01:58:04.520
So anyway, Mr. Mayor, it was a good trip, hot place to be, but it was well worth it,

01:58:04.520 --> 01:58:06.920
you know, getting that information from Chris McKenzie.

01:58:06.920 --> 01:58:08.320
Thank you.

01:58:10.120 --> 01:58:12.520
Councilwoman Hsu.

01:58:12.520 --> 01:58:16.840
I haven't attended any of my council type meetings,

01:58:16.840 --> 01:58:19.600
but I have been attending the Fortuna Fireworks Festival meetings

01:58:19.600 --> 01:58:22.080
and that's coming on well.

01:58:22.080 --> 01:58:27.200
A letter was sent out via email to several businesses to see if they wanted to contribute

01:58:27.200 --> 01:58:31.360
to the program and how to do that if they so desired.

01:58:31.360 --> 01:58:34.000
One thing that was omitted from the letter was a deadline

01:58:34.000 --> 01:58:36.160
as to getting your logo on the poster.

01:58:36.160 --> 01:58:40.920
So we are going to need donations soon or we won't have time to get posters around town

01:58:40.920 --> 01:58:47.120
in time for them to meet anything to notify the public that there is an event on July 3rd.

01:58:47.120 --> 01:58:56.600
The donations will affect, how many donations we get will affect how much we're going

01:58:56.600 --> 01:58:59.920
to charge this year for the wristbands for the kids.

01:58:59.920 --> 01:59:01.080
Last year they were free.

01:59:01.080 --> 01:59:07.880
The committee decided that the event needs to pay for itself between what we can raise

01:59:07.880 --> 01:59:14.440
at the event and donations by businesses and then the generous donation by Hopson Humboldt.

01:59:14.440 --> 01:59:18.960
We felt we needed to charge this year so that we can make it pay for itself

01:59:18.960 --> 01:59:27.320
and that the fireworks show, we increased it from $5,000 show to a $7,000 show

01:59:27.320 --> 01:59:30.480
which is quite a bit, it's almost double the fireworks.

01:59:30.480 --> 01:59:35.320
So that was the thought behind it so there will be a charge this year for the wristbands.

01:59:35.320 --> 01:59:38.400
We're thinking $2 a kid but that's going to depend

01:59:38.400 --> 01:59:42.080
on how many donations we get from the community.

01:59:42.080 --> 01:59:49.000
So if you haven't got a letter you can call me or Ken Zanzi is also on the committee

01:59:49.000 --> 01:59:54.720
and we'll get you a letter or you can just send money to PO Box 491 for tuna.

01:59:54.720 --> 01:59:55.880
Thanks.

01:59:55.880 --> 02:00:02.920
Sue, I saw that letter and there was a list of donors attached to it.

02:00:02.920 --> 02:00:09.360
Were those last year's donors or were those the donors that have already contributed this year?

02:00:09.360 --> 02:00:13.400
Those were just a list of people that got emailed a letter.

02:00:13.400 --> 02:00:22.400
But it had a dollar figure with each of the businesses and the civic organizations.

02:00:22.400 --> 02:00:23.880
It really didn't explain it.

02:00:23.880 --> 02:00:28.920
I was thinking well maybe that's those are the folks that contributed last year

02:00:28.920 --> 02:00:36.200
or we have a lot of people that already stood up and provided donations this year.

02:00:36.200 --> 02:00:38.160
But anyway.

02:00:38.160 --> 02:00:41.200
There wasn't anything attached unless you were one of the ones that got the letter

02:00:41.200 --> 02:00:43.640
that I sent wrong in the first place.

02:00:43.640 --> 02:00:46.920
That's probably it.

02:00:46.920 --> 02:00:47.880
Strike a record.

02:00:47.880 --> 02:00:51.200
I sent something out that was from 2010 and then I had to resend it

02:00:51.200 --> 02:00:54.920
and say ignore the previous email.

02:00:54.920 --> 02:00:58.280
That might be what you got.

02:00:58.280 --> 02:01:03.160
So far we've only received two donations for this year but like I said the letters just went

02:01:03.160 --> 02:01:11.680
out and I haven't checked the PO box for a couple days.

02:01:11.680 --> 02:01:13.400
Thank you Mr. Mayor.

02:01:13.400 --> 02:01:18.720
The latest FBID meeting was on June the 1st and although I didn't attend I had a court

02:01:18.720 --> 02:01:20.840
hearing that I had to attend.

02:01:20.840 --> 02:01:26.040
I have since then talked to Diana Crowe the director and received some information from her

02:01:26.040 --> 02:01:28.240
with regard to that meeting.

02:01:28.240 --> 02:01:36.000
Over the last several months FBID's been looking or the board has been discussing a search

02:01:36.000 --> 02:01:39.000
for larger quarters.

02:01:39.000 --> 02:01:42.200
The office over at the Money Club is somewhat small.

02:01:42.200 --> 02:01:48.280
In addition they were looking for some place that they could also use for storage.

02:01:48.280 --> 02:01:54.280
They have apparently a lot of signage and banners and things of that nature.

02:01:54.280 --> 02:02:02.200
And at one point Redwood Capital Bank had made an offer to allow FBID to use one or

02:02:02.200 --> 02:02:08.600
two of those offices now vacant at their bank and that was a discussion that went on between

02:02:08.600 --> 02:02:09.600
the board.

02:02:09.600 --> 02:02:18.960
It was for a one year agreement only and FBID directors felt that because of the only offer

02:02:18.960 --> 02:02:22.320
for a one year period wouldn't be sufficient.

02:02:22.320 --> 02:02:24.440
So they did decline that.

02:02:24.440 --> 02:02:30.360
I think that for now they're probably going to stay right where they're at.

02:02:30.360 --> 02:02:37.000
The FBID budget was approved and they have approved some funding going to various businesses

02:02:37.000 --> 02:02:46.160
in town to help with the promotions of the various events such as the Clendon's Apple

02:02:46.160 --> 02:02:51.720
Orchard for the Apple Festival and different events of that type.

02:02:51.720 --> 02:02:59.720
The chamber board seat representative will change from Peter Krueger to Dan Weber.

02:02:59.720 --> 02:03:03.640
Kevin Johnson will remain as the downtown representative.

02:03:03.640 --> 02:03:08.440
And there were some other changes, some other representatives.

02:03:08.440 --> 02:03:14.320
And beginning next month hopefully there will be a report from the motel businesses in town

02:03:14.320 --> 02:03:21.920
and Diana Crowe will give that particular report outlining anything that they might

02:03:21.920 --> 02:03:24.640
have going on.

02:03:24.640 --> 02:03:25.640
Thank you.

02:03:25.640 --> 02:03:26.640
Thank you.

02:03:26.640 --> 02:03:29.720
Mayor Proctor and Zanzi.

02:03:29.720 --> 02:03:32.400
Thank you mayor.

02:03:32.400 --> 02:03:40.320
Just as an item on the agenda, I appreciate you keeping me on the California Coastal Commission

02:03:40.320 --> 02:03:46.760
but the governor of the state has made it very clear that myself and four other members

02:03:46.760 --> 02:03:54.720
are no longer members of the California Coastal Commission so if you can take me off there.

02:03:54.720 --> 02:04:00.760
I don't have to leave a note.

02:04:00.760 --> 02:04:09.120
Other than that I didn't have a LAFCO meeting since our last gathering.

02:04:09.120 --> 02:04:19.160
Our next meeting is Wednesday, July 20th.

02:04:19.160 --> 02:04:23.160
And for me the last couple weeks since we met last has been really nice.

02:04:23.160 --> 02:04:29.680
I've been able to attend a lot of family and friends type events but no city business in

02:04:29.680 --> 02:04:30.680
the evenings.

02:04:30.680 --> 02:04:36.600
Thursday though I will be attending the Humboldt County Association of Governments meeting

02:04:36.600 --> 02:04:38.920
in Eureka.

02:04:38.920 --> 02:04:41.320
So that's all I have to report.

02:04:41.320 --> 02:04:44.960
Anything else anyone like to?

02:04:44.960 --> 02:04:52.360
Okay then moving on to be a closed session coming up.

02:04:52.360 --> 02:04:57.120
Oral comments from the public and members of the public may be heard on any item under

02:04:57.120 --> 02:04:58.360
closed session.

02:04:58.360 --> 02:05:02.360
Speakers address the council or board limited to three minutes per speaker.

02:05:02.360 --> 02:05:08.400
Be advised that by law neither the city council nor the board is able to deliberate or take

02:05:08.400 --> 02:05:13.600
actions on issues presented during oral comment.

02:05:13.600 --> 02:05:18.680
The closed session items number one is a closed session item the conference of labor negotiation

02:05:18.680 --> 02:05:24.400
with the city negotiator the city manager Dwayne Rigi employees organization Fortuna

02:05:24.400 --> 02:05:31.280
Employees Association, Fortuna Police Association and the city office employees association

02:05:31.280 --> 02:05:38.520
in accordance with section 54957.6 of the government code.

02:05:38.520 --> 02:05:44.480
The second item is a closed session to discuss public employees performance evaluation according

02:05:44.480 --> 02:05:52.160
to section 54957 of the government code titled city manager.

02:05:52.160 --> 02:06:01.080
Under this item the council will be not discussing anything that has to do with any public complaints

02:06:01.080 --> 02:06:05.320
that have been filed at this particular meeting.

02:06:05.320 --> 02:06:07.880
There's other items in the evaluation that we'll be discussing.

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At this time is anyone from the public like to speak on any of these items?

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To close public comment.

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Second the motion.

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It's been moved and seconded to close the public comment period all in favor signify

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by saying aye.

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Aye.

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Mr. Mayor I make a motion to close this meeting.

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Mr. Mayor I make a motion to close the meeting and adjourn to a closed session.

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Second.

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Are you going to close this and move us to a closed session?

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I'm sorry let me reiterate on that one.

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I'm going to do it right.

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I'd like to make a motion to close this public meeting and adjourn to a closed session and

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after we're done with that closed session we'll return back to publicly tell what decisions

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have been made.

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Second.

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Second.

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It's been moved and seconded to adjourn this meeting to a closed session all in favor signify

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by saying aye.

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Aye.

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Opposed?

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So adjourned.