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Silence or shut up or at least on vibrate
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might have that makes noise Thank you I
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city council before to the redevelopment
agency of an age of eighty thousand and

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eleven please stand for the
flag salute. I thank you

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. I did

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a survey here. Which is
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Thank you roll call please with their.
Council member Glazer. Or council

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member or council member there where
protests and here are strong here

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. Before we go on to
your comments there is

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a small report that I requested
the city manager to give

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a simple. Thank you Mr
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a conclusion or an action that was directed
by the city council in closed session

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and in accordance with the authority
previously granted to the city manager by the

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city council to negotiate and acquire use
Ment's for the for the placement of water

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mains as part of the Stewart Street water
tank project the following easements have

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been acquired Virginia James and Virginia
Moore and these men are crossed in along

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the front edge of fourteen ten
garden lane in Fortuna and these men

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a mountain what we paid was six thousand
eight hundred fifty dollars and that's for

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both

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a directional bore and an open trench water
line he's meant and the other is meant

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was from Norma Bennett and that was again
along across the front page of thirteen

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fifty garden and easement was four thousand
four hundred fifty dollars so that's

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the conclusion of that close session
direction thank you. Questions of doing you

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know actually you know we don't need any
action OK moving on to World comments from

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the public members of the public may be
heard on any item of interest not on the

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public agenda speakers addressing the
Council on board may be limited to three

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minutes per speaker comments concerning
the Consent Calendar can be heard at this

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time be advised by law the city council
the Redevelopment Agency Board can only

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deliberate or take action on items that are
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is there anyone from the public that
would like to speak to this council

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area action fifteen twenty eight in St And
I would like to know what happens when

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not in use or appropriated for

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a project and the project isn't
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. They don't just disappear or do they

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. Know at the end of it doing
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I delighted our program money it's appropriate
but not used the century has to be

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reappropriated the next fiscal year there
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a different matter if indeed

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a project hasn't been done then we need
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council to have the appropriate appropriations
Medigap once an appropriations made

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it isn't matter that money has been set
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it's not like it goes away or disappears
OK And the second thing yes I was

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wondering if you could direct me to whomever
I would take this little document I've

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drawn up and it's if somebody is injured
my house because the earthquake damage

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still has not repaired because somebody
standing on the building permit that they

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won't let the contractor have it because
they want to know why contractor from the

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get legals down here doing
it is the only one B.

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Had on the church it's low income he's not
going to make any money out of it he's

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doing this practically of the goodness of
his heart and I would like to I would get

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to sign this saying if somebody is injured
at my house that the city will be

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responsible since they're standing
on this anybody I think will have

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to direct staff to get back on you in that
one because I don't have an answer for

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you OK that's fine I just like thank you.

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I My name's Tim with church and I'm kind
of new with this I've never been to the

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city council and to ask anything
but I have a question that

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a couple like asked How do you zone for

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a school or when to use own and what how
to use on the speed limit for that. For

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that area and the reason I'm asking is
because for to junior academy up there on

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top or Ross Hill Road is

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a school in there just up the speed limit
to forty miles an hour why is it that we

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have never been or have never had

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a school zone sign there or
anything saying that we have

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a school I do notice in the last month they
just put up two signs of kids carrying

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large pails which is the first time in forty
nine years that anything has been done

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like that up there. We have three schools
there now unfortunately no Cademy we have

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the academy itself we had been to school
we have will brook charter school and now

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we have another school coming up that
will be renting two rooms plus across the

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four lanes at the Nazareth interest we have
another school coming in with about one

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hundred twenty kids I hear.
Why is it that we have

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a speed limit to forty. Or is it

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a school zone. And I do know that they
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miles an hour while school is in session
right now we have spent a lot quite

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a bit of time on traffic and why do neck
and stuff so. I think what you need to do

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is to come see me and we'll sit down and
I can walk you through the process work

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how could that be good because I really
don't understand how some of you say

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a lot of these things are down but you
know I'll come and see you then you are

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coming to me and I will walk you
through we share your thank you.

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That evening Mayor and Council I'm Cliff
Clendenon second district supervisor and I

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wanted to take this opportunity to let you
know about the county supervisors Oriel

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district redistricting process and so
this is based on the two thousand and ten

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census and particular to our interest
here in the second district the second

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district is twenty five hundred people
approximately two large the ideal size of

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the five districts is twenty six thousand
nine hundred twenty five so we have to

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shed approximately twenty five hundred
people. Ten years ago there was an

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allowance of about five percent either
way so now the current law says

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as close to zero as possible
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a challenge for the second district and I
just want everybody to be thinking about

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how that might occur. Some possible
scenarios we're. Taking Shelter Cove and

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Ettersberg and putting that over in the
still Street that's the from the. District

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. Somebody suggested movement in the Rio
del Scotia area again from the second to

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the neighboring first and then of course
there's the possibility of somewhere

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around the north end. But the judicially
recognized traditional redistricting

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principles are compactness com to
get ready meaning the need to touch

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preservation of cities communities of
interest and and actually interestingly

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incumbent protection meaning that I live
over by race food place so I need to stay

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in the second district however they redraw
that and for the first District Jimmy

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Smith lives on humble hill so that would
also need to even though he is not running

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again he would need to stay
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That's the general. General deal Carolyn
search the clerk recorder is in

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charge of this process but it becomes
comes before our board. Again on August

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sixteenth I believe the she will be in
town on the fifteenth Chamber of Commerce

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meeting and doing

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a lunchtime presentation there but I just
want to give everybody the opportunity to

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know that this was occurring
and that it's it's

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a relatively large change for for the
second district Thank you. Just for

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clarification before he leaves you mentioned
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judge for clarification you're talking about
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the district only runs just

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a little north of the city limits and the
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that and there's no. Just to clarify I
would just prefer the second district stay

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just like it is but state laws mandating
that you know on the one person one vote

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principle the five supervisor real districts
be more equal than they are now in

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size so you have the northern part of the
district is just just north of town. It

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runs the district of course runs all the
way over to Trinity County and down to

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Mendocino County but in some of those
sparsely populated areas there's not really

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an opportunity of. Making any
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small as is the fourth
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a lot of lines are going to shift
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a catch up because there wasn't much of

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a requirement ten years ago but
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This is working on that and the team
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Paul he goes on the sheriff Mike Downey and
the assessor Mari WILSON So that group

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of four are doing this process and the
next public meeting on that is going

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to be down a rebel city hall Monday to be

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a week from tonight sixty eight
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a second meeting following Tuesday evening
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I would encourage everyone interested
to go and give your input to Caroline's

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Committee thank you have there been
public meetings that we've missed

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already there has been. One of
official one so far at the ag center

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that South Broadway and that was July
thirteenth just last week that's been the

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first one oh excuse me and then there was
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fifth District also needs to get a
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a fairly significant line change in the
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only one so far has been and the meeting
you know it's proof point of the access

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a lot to do to lie meetings well before
your district then yes second district I've

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been I'm encouraging people to go to other
district meetings too because it's the

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same committee and and the shift in one
district starts to affect another so you

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know it's kind of

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a puzzle that all has to has to work
out. If I'm understanding correctly this

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committee will bring

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a recommendation to the Board of Supervisors
in the Board of Supervisors We'll have

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the final vote on we will have the nearly
final vote if we don't decide by for

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whatever reason if we don't decide by
November first then then it goes back to

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a committee of the assessor the clerk
recorder Carolyn search and the district

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attorney and those three by state law will
will will make that call if we fail to

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do so. THANK YOU THANK
YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

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Is there anyone else in the public that
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not on the agenda. Close public on

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a second the motion and moved and
seconded to close public comment on

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a favor signify by saying I. Will
quote. Moving on to the next item we

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have

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a presentation on the Historical Commission.
On who you have to do some for me so I

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will thank you hon mayor council members
it's my pleasure tonight to introduce Alex

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service the curator of. Him and Susan O'Hara
the historical chair and they are the

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heart and soul of the people we
are extremely fortunate Alex.

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OK. Dear Mary and council members
we really appreciate all

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of your support throughout
the years for good new C.M.

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Time indeed it was one of your council
members in one thousand nine hundred eighty

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six that allowed us to have the museum
both run Del. We appreciate all of your

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support that you've given to the history
and the support of the learning about the

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history of the valley and in the museum
and as you probably know Alex and I have

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just finished writing
and getting published

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a book on the history of Fortuna
and the ill river valley to

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a truth dedicated to the city council and

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a. Commission for that ongoing support and
in recognition of that we'd like to give

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each of the members of the board of X.

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The Council excuse me

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a copy of our book. And

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. Thank you very much I just signed

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thank you. Thank you

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less special presentation
and John. Book would

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not have been published without all the
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available to you when you see him and that
River Lodge there for sale so thank you

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very much thank you guys thank you thank
you very much it. And of if I may get the

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sale of these books goes into

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a fund that we have set up some years ago
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so it is set aside is not used in cities
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designated money expects closely for
the museum and the collection that the

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museum House thank you when. They ask how
much you're selling these documents for.

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Twenty one ninety nine plus tax
so as we know from having done

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a pretty good number of sales of them over
the radio weekend that's twenty three

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fifty eight that's executed and the ones
that are sold at the museum gift shop of

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course all the profits from those sales
go directly into the museum fund also for

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every single copy of it that's sold
anywhere at all including online and in

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different states just wherever the
royalties from the sale of the book go to

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support the people museum as well so that
something along those lines of dollars

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seventy five for every single book sold
so it definitely it just helps the museum

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every single one of those that get sold
so keep in mind when you're looking for

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Christmas presents or I got relatives
coming to visit from out of town at all it

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helps to support the diva museum and keep
our history alive so thank you again I

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think thank you service Q Thank you VERY
know. As to your turning his this or

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report. Or should I pay for it no

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Moving right along now we have

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a report on distribution of money
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here and members of the city council
and chair members of the redevelopment

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commission Agency excuse me the report for
dispersants for July eighteenth with the

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city was five hundred twenty thousand eight
hundred sixty three dollars and ninety

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seven cents and for the redevelopment
agency one thousand three hundred three

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dollars and twenty cents. I might add
the the distributions for the city are

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a little bit above what we call our normal
part of this is because it is payment

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a number of capital improvement projects
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pay period one of which is
a skill road and also for

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a number of paving projects that we have
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been doing

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a number of rehabilitations of existing
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that are making that to five hundred
twenty thousand dollars. Thank you any

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questions of the line. Moving
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. These are matters routinely in
nature and are usually approved in

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a single vote any member council may pool

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a particular item for further discussion
there are nine items during one liking to

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pool. And that's how the thank
you to list for including that

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little notation on the report that the
property owners are developers have been

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notified that their mouth will expire I
appreciate that it. Moved to prove the

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Consent Calendar second the motion and
moved and seconded to approve the Consent

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Calendar all in favor signify me saying
I posed. So so hope so approved you

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don't know. We don't do the
business items it is meeting.

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The first business item is. The repeal
Resolution two thousand and eleven dash

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eleven approving Lewis logging
re subdivision and submitting

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a resolution two thousand and ten
dash twenty six application of

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a one am industries and Lewis logging A.P.

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Number two zero two dash. One
zero one dash zero two six

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zero two eight project
located northeast corner on

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a road south loop. Resolution two thousand
and eleven dash twenty six when you have

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a staff report yes we do. Our deputy
director of for green your opening be

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providing that report to you or you will
notice that the applicant isn't present

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and she will give you an explanation. Thank
you doing Thank you mayor and council

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members I'm so this staff report is to
return to you with Resolution two thousand

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and eleven dash eleven which was
approved in May. May seventeenth and

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basically to confirm the change that the
council made to the condition regarding

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Ross. Loop road and so this stuff or poor

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a duplicate of it was included at the
last meeting that was July fifth and our

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intention was to bring it back to you
tonight on the applicant we've been in

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communication with the applicant in keeping
things moving forward but they did

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today ask that it be continued again
they think that they needed more time.

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And so you know we've we've had

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a lot of discussion on this and
we feel that it's you know it's

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a really important matter but. Our our
suggest our proposal is to continue it one

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more time and we've put them on notice
that our intention would be to for the

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council to hear it at August first the
next meeting McArdle So whether they you

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know had it or participating are going
to be present so we feel like you know

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give them

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a little bit more due process and put
them on notice that that would be our

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intention to be here at
the next meeting. So

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. You know we do feel like it's an urgent
enough matter and we're concerned I mean

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we do have an approved resolution and this
stuff has just to confirm the council's

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intent but we do need
to wrap it up. And just

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a couple of things this is the same
staff report and we've we've you know

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transmitted this to them and the
resolution and the changes that we've made

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are in the staff report or not that changes
but the interpretation of the council's

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changes which are also in the staff report
so you know nothing nothing in that

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regard has been modified so you
know the information is out there

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. And you know we do need to
wrap it up there's nothing new

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in here the changes are all on
strike through and. You know if you

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wanted to discuss that our recommendation
would be to continue it to the next

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meeting Oh and. Is the entity or the you
know John and Robert Beth are the ones who

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have asked for it to be continued technically.
Who is logging is the applicant on

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this part of this is the
subdivision O. And M.

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Macbeth's or the applicant on the use permit
and I did communicate with Dean Lewis

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today about this. Their request
today that this be continued and

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so he's basically on board not happy about
it but I'm bored with it so I'll turn

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that back to you for direction from the
mayor and council. Question. Is this item

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open for discussion tonight. I think
it's important to actually have it open.

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Because of the I have some issues about
the words. We get the words to them ahead

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of time. They may or may not like that you
have to continue once again after the

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next meeting. You know the whole
issue here I believe is how staff

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interpreted the commission's action.
That interpretation and whatever the

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commission I mean the council took here
is different than what my thought process

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was the night that we voted on this
I had no intention at all of. The

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thinking that the time was different in
certain conditions that the Planning

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Commission put on this project and the
thinking in my mind at least I'm just giving

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you my perception was that there were this
loop road have street improvements was

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the deal breaker for getting these two
businesses relocated out there and this

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whole idea of deferring. Those have to
have treat improvements on loop road to

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a time in the future one after that
business became established would get them

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sooner on the property and facilitate
losing to good businesses for the

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city of Fortuna and two of the items that
are bulleted here are deferred which is

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fine the third and I think the most
important is is. Relieving the applicant

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of any responsibility for have to be
improvements which it was my thinking I'm

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telling us might think the council's
thinking my thinking was that that needed to

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be deferred not relieving them of any
responsibility for have three improvements in

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. Deal leading that requirement that
the Planning Commission put on has

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a condition of approval makes in my mind

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a very bad president for any future project
that might come before the cancel so.

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As for my vote on this item if we're going
to delete any recorder meant for half

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the improvements on what I'm going to have
to vote no on this on this particular

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the way this is
particularly written. That.

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It was pointed out the last meeting we were
discussing this actually the one before

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that discussing that it's that one of
the the worst foods that we have is

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irregularity of the road with
on the south side of loop. And

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that issue has to be resolved.
Your word or Gene here refers to

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. In Section D.

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. In lieu of constructing the south loop
road sidewalk and prudence only until such

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time as

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a remainder of south loop road is improved.
I don't care about going towards

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a rational Rhea's old location I worry
about what is the full length of their

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property line on South Loop I we need to
have the correct with some new means or

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another having

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a continuous standard with whether it's
be fifty feet or not and if that involves

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encroaching and taking land from the
south side so be it. But the with

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has to be standard. Otherwise they're not
going to know where that eleven foot.

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With is going to be taken then we might
be taken fifteen feet and that's not fair

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to the. The word you got. At the very
bottom of the page you have the development

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of Lot seven does not gain egress or ingress
from south loop road no improvements

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to this road will be required that whole
sentence should be in there is that in my

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interpretation that leaves them completely
off the hook of actually having any

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obligations of delayed responsibilities
for sidewalks and curbs or doing anything

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on the road I don't know how that word has
got in there but it's it's wrong and it

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just complicates the prior work in the
beginning part of that paragraph so I'm I'm

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suggesting it says the developer may
choose to enter in deferred improvement

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agreement in lieu of constructing the south
loop route sidewalk improvements only

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use at such time as the South
Loop intersection is improved

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the intersection right there run a
railroad. Or key factor for having

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a thing done correctly on that road. I

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want to get past this I want to have
this project approved and there I think

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they're extremely worried that somehow
or another. We're going to have

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a. We're digit interpretation that's going
obligate to have to do you have this

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thing done immediately and I'm worried
about having wordage that that eliminates

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the obligation on their part to do any any
improvements on that road and then we

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end up having to pay for it rather than
the developer so you have to property

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owners the Lewis logging location and you
also have the nursery location you know

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that problem that irregular which has to
be resolved so you have one continuous

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with. I agree with the whole heartily
at the third bullet point should be.

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Rewritten to eliminate the word delete
and change it to defer then that

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. Last sentence under item D.

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Exactly needs to be expunged from the record
because that is not what the Planning

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Commission approved in their. Conditions
of approval. Well I think we need to

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go back and watch the tape because this
is not what we said. Well it's probably

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what was voted on and what was said
but. I apologize if I misinterpreted my

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my vote on that at that time but if this
comes before me again I I cannot vote on

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it with this so the way it's written now
well the reason we put up the development

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a lot seven does not gain engrossing road
no improvements to this road will be

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required if they don't take in grocery
egress off of loop road they are not

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impacting that road whatsoever
so just because they have

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a corner lot why would we punish them for
that they're not impacting the street

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it's not punishment it's. Public right
away improvements curb gutter sidewalk and

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have great improvements and normally when
we require those it's because they're

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impacting the street they're using it you
need to upgrade it so that it can be used

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for whatever the project wants to use it
for they're not using the roads put it put

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it in other terms the Planning Commission
put those conditions of approval on it.

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We as this body. Made an
attempt to defer those.

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Conditions to

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a later time when I got myth in my mind got
misinterpreted to relieve them of that

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the business of should they not. Should
they not may I should they make ingress

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egress an access to. That
would change the game

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altogether then they would have to put in
the curb gutter sidewalk and have to be

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improvements so. I'll talk. I think your

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discussion is

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a last trade of of the fact that there is
some confusion about what happened and

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and so that's the reason staff is asking
you to revisit it and it is on the agenda

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tonight for you to take action if you
choose to but I don't want to lose sight of

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the fact that the applicants have asked
that it be continued they are not here

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obviously to participate in the discussion
so I think the threshold question is do

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you want to continue it to your first meeting
in August well as they have requested

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. I'm in agreement with Councilman gods
or that we don't want to hit him in the

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face with this Aug first if they if we.
Act on this one way or the other that can

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be transmitted to them be of the community.
Development Department that will at

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least they'll have some heads up at
this point in time so. I may not I'm

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giving you my my opinion what I was
thinking that's not what the council was

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thinking just me so. You want to take an
action and vote I can tell you what my

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votes going to be. As an idea as to the
reason why they put this off now two

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times are they concerned about this
particular wording or have they given you any

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as to what their concerns are. Well I
mean the resolution was approved in

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May at the end of May So we have been in
discussion with them during basically

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during June and you know things were I
don't know if they're moving forward but

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certainly there was communication you
know on. The resolution we wanted and we

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wanted their sort of confirmation or their
them to be in agreement with us so we

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could all you know come here and make this
is easy as possible and you know just

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how those things go. Different parties
look at it and you know make some

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comments and then we you know
we try to adapt to them we had

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a couple of meetings I mean the
point is that there's it's been

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a discussion been in process at
the. Last council meeting it was.

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Their attorney looked at it and made some
comment so that then we had to deal with

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that and today well both at the last
this meeting and last at the last

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council meeting they just basically needed
more time it's really their bottom line

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is that and today when I talked to
him they said they've been busy with

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a lot of things and haven't devoted as
much time as they would like to understand

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it and you can see that it's difficult you
know for all of us to understand it and

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they're being non developers I think that's
part of the problem that you know they

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just need

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a little more time to conceptualize what
the condition is really saying so there's

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no you know no specific you know reason
except that they needed more time. For what

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I would like there was

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a huge amount of discussion when this motion
was passed and I think that there was

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general agreement with the deferment of
improvements I chill that in Greece ingress

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egress occurred on growth. But I wouldn't
you know I'd like to move forward if the

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applicant is still willing and over are
still willing to move forward on this I you

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know that means postponing this
until they are here and we can have

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a discussion I think that would. I mind
be a better solution than trying to make

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a decision here. We probably should
postpone it the this is why we shouldn't be

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planning commissioners. And out of
hand the last time by trying to

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. Actually make it so more complicated
than it should be because we were all

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looking at it the way we wanted it to
happen. For me probably should postpone

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a salute the applicant is yours so that
we can get their input too because I had

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the interpretation that we were deferring
all of this until something was developed

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on the street because we've known that when
I was on the Planning Commission we did

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defer some subdivision they didn't have
to put sidewalk and curbs in into the

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street was actually developed better by the
by anybody. So that's what I in my mind

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mind when we were deferring this that's
what we were differing for anyway. She did

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I don't want does this to continue
this conversation but for

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a matter of clarity and
why your staff has been

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a bit confused because the applicant
even interprets our own with quite

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a bit differently than what you just said
this evening but the what happened is the

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applicant changed the project why are you
are hearing it. So when the project was

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changed the council try to accommodate
that change and what there is there are

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starting on the first page of staff report
on page thirty nine years three bulleted

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items those were the specific. Wording
that the council directed to be done how

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those that wording was in we see it is
staff sees that is instructional issues in

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other words you are directing staff they
weren't replacement words so we were

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trying to come up with the replacement words
that you instructed us but those those

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bullets are there and so if you look at
the third bullet on the top of page forty

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it said delete the requirement.
Not differ and hence we

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became confused and obviously
the applicant is even has

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a different interpretation than what you
just said some of you said this evening

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and certainly with staff has as for the
easement. It was resolved even the night

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that was taken up but we couldn't give you
the court unfortunately or see engine

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was ill that evening but that has been
the right away is resolved the map is

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recorded and it was even at the time we
bought the staff report for us so that

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isn't I don't believe an issue that is
up for discussion but anyway my point of

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bringing these items is if you look at those
specific motions that the council made

430
00:37:07,00 --> 00:37:12,79
that is what your staff is been trying
to put in as replacement words into the

431
00:37:12,80 --> 00:37:17,81
resolution. And hence the reason we felt
we needed to come back to you because we

432
00:37:17,82 --> 00:37:23,30
didn't think we had the authority to place
those words and have them in the done

433
00:37:23,56 --> 00:37:26,38
and so now we see that I think we're all

434
00:37:26,39 --> 00:37:31,71
a bit not sure what we concluded that night
but those bullet points are the motion

435
00:37:31,72 --> 00:37:38,49
you made and voted on and thank
you. Look at this back at the next

436
00:37:38,50 --> 00:37:39,72
meeting I'll make

437
00:37:39,73 --> 00:37:45,70
a motion to continue. Moving seconded to
continue all in favor signifiers and I

438
00:37:45,70 --> 00:37:52,69
. Posed. A new. Next item on the agenda

439
00:37:52,69 --> 00:37:59,49
. Declaring the existence of nuisance and
they require the. Abatement of weeds on

440
00:37:59,50 --> 00:38:05,66
private property resolution two
thousand and eleven Dash eight.

441
00:38:06,64 --> 00:38:07,10
When you have

442
00:38:07,11 --> 00:38:13,53
a staff with Dennis Ryan will be our city
injured were structural be present but

443
00:38:13,60 --> 00:38:18,43
thank you. Thank you joining AM Mr Mann
council members because our general

444
00:38:18,44 --> 00:38:23,28
services superintendent is here this evening
changed to certain of Texas cowboy hat

445
00:38:23,29 --> 00:38:26,54
off I think you go ahead I'll let him go
ahead and deliver the report to you in

446
00:38:26,55 --> 00:38:27,99
records for we debate one program.

447
00:38:40,79 --> 00:38:44,47
He's fifty seven the correct page here if
you'll excuse me where you got shoes or

448
00:38:45,08 --> 00:38:52,02
draft. Arnold mayor and
city council. Each year

449
00:38:52,15 --> 00:38:58,64
starting in June first we have. An
ordinance goes into effect that regulates

450
00:38:59,12 --> 00:39:02,50
tall grass brush that constitute

451
00:39:02,51 --> 00:39:06,08
a fire hazard in the
city of Fortuna this is

452
00:39:06,09 --> 00:39:12,76
a complaint ridden. Ordinance and
is complete complaints are received

453
00:39:13,29 --> 00:39:20,09
they are directed to me I contact the
complainant and investigate the properties

454
00:39:20,68 --> 00:39:26,29
and if I do find that there are tall
weeds and a fire hazard in that area

455
00:39:27,16 --> 00:39:32,98
a letter was sent to the property owner.
Citing the ordinance and asking for their

456
00:39:32,99 --> 00:39:38,47
cooperation. And removing
that debris. Days

457
00:39:39,19 --> 00:39:45,68
and this year. I don't know what happened
but we've had an awesome response

458
00:39:46,40 --> 00:39:51,73
a lot of the property owners are to be
commended. Some that we've had to send

459
00:39:51,74 --> 00:39:57,23
letters to in the past of on their own
initiative taken care of these prior to that

460
00:39:57,24 --> 00:40:01,46
being necessary and it's been

461
00:40:01,47 --> 00:40:06,27
a good year for lack
of weeds but there are

462
00:40:06,28 --> 00:40:10,53
a couple of properties that
have impacted neighbors in

463
00:40:10,54 --> 00:40:17,40
a very badly way there's one.
Property that you'll note

464
00:40:17,41 --> 00:40:24,12
in the staff report. That is.
Just near twenty three twenty one

465
00:40:24,16 --> 00:40:30,19
Newburgh road this is at the rear of St
Luke's I believe it's now the Fortuna

466
00:40:30,20 --> 00:40:36,25
wellness and rehabilitation center and
that impacts that business plus the senior

467
00:40:36,26 --> 00:40:41,69
housing and dining facility to
the rear. And it does constitute

468
00:40:41,70 --> 00:40:45,12
a grave fire hazard. No other one is

469
00:40:45,13 --> 00:40:49,53
a subdivision on Ken Mar road that impacts

470
00:40:50,02 --> 00:40:56,59
a neighbor. Frame house
and Redwood siding. Is

471
00:40:56,86 --> 00:41:00,69
worried about it's an elderly couple and
there are very worried about these things

472
00:41:00,70 --> 00:41:01,91
and it does constitute

473
00:41:01,92 --> 00:41:08,48
a fire. These two properties
locations the subdivision actually

474
00:41:08,49 --> 00:41:14,70
has three three owners of what's in there
so that's why you noticed that split into

475
00:41:14,71 --> 00:41:21,10
thirds these two locations are the
properties in the resolution that do

476
00:41:21,11 --> 00:41:21,74
constitute

477
00:41:21,75 --> 00:41:30,34
a fire hazard and he comes to you
for declaration of his. Actions

478
00:41:30,38 --> 00:41:32,20
if we give you the declaration of

479
00:41:32,42 --> 00:41:36,98
a nuisance what's the next step so the
public they will be sent another letter

480
00:41:37,49 --> 00:41:40,98
saying that it has been declared
a nuisance and there will be

481
00:41:40,99 --> 00:41:47,67
a public hearing set and I don't recall
exactly when the next day for that public

482
00:41:47,68 --> 00:41:53,50
hearing would be but it would be the second
council meeting and August so they have

483
00:41:54,30 --> 00:41:58,58
after I send them another letter they will
have that until the time of the public

484
00:41:58,59 --> 00:42:01,97
hearing to receive take care
of it themselves respond in

485
00:42:01,98 --> 00:42:08,70
a bit since or it will go to council again
and after that time the last five more

486
00:42:08,71 --> 00:42:15,23
days at which after which the city staff
or their designated will abate the week

487
00:42:15,23 --> 00:42:21,63
. Any questions of any of the property

488
00:42:21,64 --> 00:42:28,20
owners responded and if so what what has
been the response. Response nothing

489
00:42:28,20 --> 00:42:34,34
. So use that individual letters to block
and web Darian kept me guessing Richard

490
00:42:34,35 --> 00:42:40,21
and Dana quotes keep each up on but which
ones are right to the letter. Certified

491
00:42:40,22 --> 00:42:46,68
Mail. Know that this particular
letter is not. Following course OK

492
00:42:47,34 --> 00:42:50,33
we in the past in the past we had

493
00:42:51,01 --> 00:42:56,83
a lot on Brattle creek that. John
responsibility in the city did actually go in

494
00:42:56,84 --> 00:43:03,73
there and place to lean on their property
so we do have some teeth in this. You

495
00:43:03,74 --> 00:43:08,89
pointed out and I want to see it again the
public has the right to call into City

496
00:43:08,90 --> 00:43:12,82
Hall to place a complaint don't
be shy about it if you have

497
00:43:12,83 --> 00:43:16,06
a neighbor not because you don't like
them but because you believe there's

498
00:43:16,07 --> 00:43:19,96
a fire hazard because the brochure the
grass there is one right there behind

499
00:43:20,00 --> 00:43:25,13
alongside on the side of rain or petroleum
that you don't have on this list that

500
00:43:25,18 --> 00:43:26,59
every year is

501
00:43:26,60 --> 00:43:32,47
a major fire hazard. And behind
there between there and Smith lane

502
00:43:33,06 --> 00:43:39,41
it's full of grass and stuff one
of those is already. Other One

503
00:43:39,41 --> 00:43:46,01
. Surprisingly enough it receives points
right and then you also have one on the

504
00:43:46,05 --> 00:43:52,62
east side of South Loop. Just before Strongs
creek every year has high grass in the

505
00:43:52,63 --> 00:43:53,89
only does just cut it cut

506
00:43:53,90 --> 00:43:59,26
a little bitty mini buffer but it's five
feet high between the Olsen's as you know

507
00:43:59,27 --> 00:44:04,78
since all property in the corner that's
still five foot high sitting there waiting

508
00:44:04,78 --> 00:44:11,41
. And the responsibility for this is
until it rains and soaks up the fuel

509
00:44:11,42 --> 00:44:18,38
source you're obligated to remove
that grass or that brush. As of

510
00:44:18,39 --> 00:44:25,14
yet we haven't received any complaints
on that particular problem.

511
00:44:25,35 --> 00:44:31,42
If we can we can try silicate things. So
the city doesn't police drive around them

512
00:44:32,30 --> 00:44:35,74
make a list the people it has to
be called into the city it is

513
00:44:35,74 --> 00:44:41,53
a complete. Other questions of that

514
00:44:41,53 --> 00:44:46,74
. Thank you thanks Mike

515
00:44:46,74 --> 00:44:53,70
. Counsel for the color of law and

516
00:44:53,71 --> 00:44:59,66
you don't look for public comment. Anyone
from the public like to speak on. His

517
00:44:59,67 --> 00:45:06,27
side and. It's probably coming second
the motion then moved in there so get

518
00:45:06,29 --> 00:45:12,36
into those public comment on favor
signifiers and I thought it. Was

519
00:45:12,36 --> 00:45:19,20
. A mic.

520
00:45:20,40 --> 00:45:21,11
Move to adopt

521
00:45:21,12 --> 00:45:27,68
a resolution two thousand and eleven dash
twenty eight and rebuttal. Second with

522
00:45:27,68 --> 00:45:31,54
just the comment that I know most of these
people and I'm surprised they haven't

523
00:45:31,56 --> 00:45:38,45
responded well I just called Adventures
OK I'll second the motion. She

524
00:45:38,47 --> 00:45:42,98
didn't say that. Bush interpretation
or you know ten million yeah you know

525
00:45:42,99 --> 00:45:49,84
everybody important Okami. Has been moved
and seconded to approve Resolution two

526
00:45:49,85 --> 00:45:51,38
thousand and eleven dash twenty eight

527
00:45:51,39 --> 00:45:55,93
a resolution of the city council of the
city of Fortunately clear in existence of

528
00:45:55,94 --> 00:46:02,55
a nuisance. Call council member
Glazer Yes ma'am council member long

529
00:46:03,26 --> 00:46:10,23
council member mostly Yes or pro
tem Sandy Yes or strong yes.

530
00:46:10,23 --> 00:46:14,95
We know on the business side M C. Is

531
00:46:14,96 --> 00:46:20,36
a public hearing to approve the. Two
thousand and eleven two thousand and twelve

532
00:46:20,37 --> 00:46:24,01
fiscal budget for the city if we're to
know the Redevelopment Agency and the

533
00:46:24,02 --> 00:46:29,88
Fortuna public improvement corporation. I
dopped Resolution two thousand and eleven

534
00:46:29,89 --> 00:46:31,64
dash twenty nine R.T.A.

535
00:46:31,65 --> 00:46:38,00
Two thousand and eleven dash two and P F
B I C two thousand and eleven that zero

536
00:46:38,01 --> 00:46:39,81
one you when you have

537
00:46:39,82 --> 00:46:46,76
a staff report we certainly do. Here this
evening with me of course is Gary Chapman

538
00:46:46,77 --> 00:46:52,55
our finance director so we do have the
ability to answer questions I believe the

539
00:46:52,56 --> 00:46:56,60
council is very familiar with these budgets
because we presented them to you in

540
00:46:56,61 --> 00:47:02,98
workshops in the past we believe we have
faithfully followed your directions in

541
00:47:02,99 --> 00:47:09,81
previous meetings and in fact have even
changed some type of graph areas air

542
00:47:09,85 --> 00:47:15,62
errors and dates that need to be updated
in addition to that we have provided some

543
00:47:15,63 --> 00:47:20,94
of the other items that will. Be in the
final form of the budget which includes the

544
00:47:21,33 --> 00:47:26,46
budget message by the city manager in the
executive director some of which has been

545
00:47:26,47 --> 00:47:32,67
incorporated into the staff report and
summarizes the overall budget and certainly

546
00:47:32,68 --> 00:47:37,98
the council's aware of the struggle this
year particularly although Ever yours is

547
00:47:37,99 --> 00:47:42,84
not usual of the general fund of balancing
the general fund because of our revenue

548
00:47:43,66 --> 00:47:49,31
declining and in decision that the
Redevelopment Agency and some of the ongoing

549
00:47:49,32 --> 00:47:54,08
activities of the state and change you
have legit There are still some issues in

550
00:47:54,09 --> 00:47:58,07
the redevelopment agency budget that will
need to be resolved but quite frankly as

551
00:47:58,08 --> 00:48:03,23
a I presented to you in previous workshops
we're going to have to take that up you

552
00:48:03,24 --> 00:48:05,30
know I'll give you a report

553
00:48:05,35 --> 00:48:11,61
a little bit later in the city managers
or report about what is going on and now

554
00:48:11,62 --> 00:48:11,80
with

555
00:48:11,81 --> 00:48:17,80
a lawsuit that's been filed on our behalf with
the state Supreme Court but the redevelopment

556
00:48:17,81 --> 00:48:22,11
agency budget I believe is going to have
to be changed for ID reasons we have

557
00:48:22,12 --> 00:48:25,18
another agenda item following
this that we can talk about

558
00:48:25,19 --> 00:48:29,62
a little bit of that. So I don't see the
redevelopment agency budget that I'm

559
00:48:29,63 --> 00:48:34,46
presenting to you tonight and this isn't
an excuse for it it's just an item that

560
00:48:34,47 --> 00:48:36,04
it's going to have to have

561
00:48:36,47 --> 00:48:41,28
a revision and maybe even next significant
revision in the next two or three months

562
00:48:41,32 --> 00:48:47,02
or so depending again what the Supreme
Court does how we're going to if we indeed

563
00:48:47,03 --> 00:48:48,43
were to continue the R.T.A.

564
00:48:48,44 --> 00:48:54,41
On but as for the going back to the city
budget when I get I we believe we have

565
00:48:54,42 --> 00:48:58,52
faithfully follow your directions and are
pretty present in this budget for your

566
00:48:58,53 --> 00:49:05,40
adoption this budget as we've discussed
before I'd stay authority if adopted for

567
00:49:05,41 --> 00:49:10,92
the city manager to carry out through
the staff all of the various

568
00:49:11,77 --> 00:49:17,01
appropriations for projects capital
improvement projects capital expenditures as

569
00:49:17,02 --> 00:49:20,42
well as the ongoing operations of the
city which include all the various

570
00:49:20,43 --> 00:49:26,39
departments this is from my perspective
the most important document and policy

571
00:49:26,40 --> 00:49:31,09
statement the city council makes on an
annual basis is the adoption of your budget

572
00:49:31,09 --> 00:49:37,64
. So it's presented to you for adoption
all three budgets this evening and us and

573
00:49:37,65 --> 00:49:44,35
if you have some questions we will
attempt to respond to those thank you.

574
00:49:45,24 --> 00:49:52,19
Any questions of the staff at this
time I'll listen. On page sixty

575
00:49:52,20 --> 00:49:55,73
four where it says budget transfers in
the city manager is authorized to make

576
00:49:55,74 --> 00:49:56,78
budget answers within

577
00:49:56,79 --> 00:50:00,19
a department from one object account to
another without increasing the overall

578
00:50:00,20 --> 00:50:05,16
budget while the law. If there was

579
00:50:05,17 --> 00:50:10,08
a significant change from one category to
another category I would at least like to

580
00:50:10,77 --> 00:50:12,56
have some kind of a report or something of

581
00:50:12,57 --> 00:50:17,63
a council meeting saying because this
happened we need to change this and this even

582
00:50:17,64 --> 00:50:22,92
though it's within the same department. I
guess I appreciate what you're saying in

583
00:50:22,93 --> 00:50:28,44
the past. I don't recall any specific
incident in the last number of years where

584
00:50:28,45 --> 00:50:33,38
that has occurred and it may not but and
it may not but in my practice has been to

585
00:50:33,39 --> 00:50:37,79
keep the Council informed either through
the monthly report we get you get from the

586
00:50:37,80 --> 00:50:42,62
finance department when these kinds of
transfers are authorized the purpose and

587
00:50:42,63 --> 00:50:46,39
reason for me is sometimes we need to make
that decision at the time it's occurring

588
00:50:46,40 --> 00:50:51,55
but you're absolutely correct the council
should be kept informed yes I have

589
00:50:51,56 --> 00:50:56,57
a question on page seventy and our general
fund revenue trying to figure out where

590
00:50:56,58 --> 00:51:01,70
those numbers came from the beginning
general fund of three million and ending

591
00:51:01,71 --> 00:51:06,44
general fund of three point five
million. I can't wear those numbers

592
00:51:06,44 --> 00:51:12,59
. I'm going to defer to Gary at this

593
00:51:12,59 --> 00:51:17,05
. Part of the reason why is because when
we went through the report I asked him to

594
00:51:17,06 --> 00:51:21,44
provide the numbers for me so I'm not
throwing very under the bus here but those

595
00:51:21,45 --> 00:51:28,06
are numbers that were generated by
the finance director. And your honor

596
00:51:28,07 --> 00:51:34,99
and counsel on. The worksheet that I've
given you the last council meeting dealt

597
00:51:35,00 --> 00:51:40,57
with the activity that occurred during the
fiscal two thousand and ten eleven to

598
00:51:40,58 --> 00:51:47,52
school year so the balances that we're
talking about come from that worksheet

599
00:51:47,53 --> 00:51:52,76
that I give you that had the orange highlight
on it. Big because that was dealing

600
00:51:52,77 --> 00:51:58,07
with the activity that we were
estimating for this current fiscal year.

601
00:52:00,50 --> 00:52:07,42
And let me see the specific numbers. But

602
00:52:07,43 --> 00:52:11,04
we are dealing with an overall
balance of cash you know

603
00:52:11,05 --> 00:52:15,29
a beginning balance that we began with and
then and and then how much cash is left

604
00:52:15,30 --> 00:52:20,34
over so in total for the general fund I
believe that's what we're talking about

605
00:52:20,35 --> 00:52:23,17
here correct. Going to end up with half

606
00:52:23,18 --> 00:52:26,52
a million more marginal fund than we have
now that distant sound right to me with

607
00:52:26,53 --> 00:52:33,17
all the budget trials we've been
talking about in anticipating and

608
00:52:33,57 --> 00:52:39,70
I'm just I'm so much. You know. I'm
glad you asked this question because

609
00:52:40,46 --> 00:52:45,67
you're looking on page seventy correct
you have the first border vitamin D.

610
00:52:45,68 --> 00:52:49,81
Or general fund revenue in expenditures and
some of the key words that are included

611
00:52:49,82 --> 00:52:55,25
in that paragraph are on encumbered
and on reserved which is still

612
00:52:55,26 --> 00:53:00,24
a bit different than the full amount I think
Yury can provide the explanation that

613
00:53:02,05 --> 00:53:07,74
yeah. You see on income for fun balance
at the beginning of eleven twelve

614
00:53:08,43 --> 00:53:14,43
OK. And used round numbers and now that
I'm looking at the beginning of eleven

615
00:53:14,44 --> 00:53:21,12
twelve I can give us. With what we have
here when we look in Alice's of the

616
00:53:21,12 --> 00:53:27,15
. Cash balances and I
think it comes from my

617
00:53:27,15 --> 00:53:34,05
. Forgive me I'm I'm not seeing
it right off right off the

618
00:53:34,06 --> 00:53:40,09
top of my head but that is the
idea that comes from that. Well

619
00:53:40,09 --> 00:53:46,97
. You know in speech class I tell you
not to say amen on stuff like that. I'm

620
00:53:46,98 --> 00:53:52,15
good at it. Well maybe you can e-mail me
or something because those numbers aren't

621
00:53:52,25 --> 00:53:57,23
what I have in my mind what is happening
we will provide you some additional

622
00:53:57,24 --> 00:54:03,42
clarification and either support those were
changed the budget message accordingly

623
00:54:03,42 --> 00:54:09,64
. It in looking at it looks like
that might be somewhat close to the

624
00:54:09,65 --> 00:54:15,11
figures on the general funds analysis of
cancer cash balances and he was twenty

625
00:54:15,12 --> 00:54:19,52
eight yeah that's the idea that's where
it should be coming from we're talking

626
00:54:19,53 --> 00:54:19,83
about

627
00:54:19,87 --> 00:54:25,55
a year and encumbered balance at the
beginning of the fiscal year and I just have

628
00:54:26,18 --> 00:54:30,29
well I'm enough sibs finished
I've got one that's just

629
00:54:30,30 --> 00:54:37,16
a minor thing. On that same page she was
talking about Page seventy and then also

630
00:54:37,17 --> 00:54:43,75
at the beginning when the staff report
to council it says revenues exceeding

631
00:54:43,76 --> 00:54:48,01
expenditures by eighty three thousand
eight hundred two went on page one eighty

632
00:54:48,02 --> 00:54:54,68
eight which is the analysis of cash balances
by fun shows. An operational surplus

633
00:54:55,51 --> 00:54:59,39
in the general fund of eighty three
ninety nine zero nine nine three so it's

634
00:54:59,76 --> 00:55:04,07
a difference of you know one hundred dollars
but those should be should be the same

635
00:55:04,08 --> 00:55:11,07
in the same yes.

636
00:55:11,50 --> 00:55:17,25
But again it's stated on page sixty one
right very top of the call again the figure

637
00:55:17,26 --> 00:55:23,92
eighty three eight zero
two. Should probably be in

638
00:55:23,93 --> 00:55:30,86
conformance with what the
general fund reports. And

639
00:55:30,87 --> 00:55:36,23
then I just one more issue with this budget
on page one fifty seven I'm not really

640
00:55:36,24 --> 00:55:36,79
sure if this is

641
00:55:36,80 --> 00:55:43,48
a question or comment this is something
that caught my attention. In December when

642
00:55:43,49 --> 00:55:50,44
we were asked to increase the wastewater
treatment plant staff because they

643
00:55:50,45 --> 00:55:54,92
said one person was left off of the budget
by mistake and they needed to add one

644
00:55:54,93 --> 00:56:00,71
more person so we needed to increase
that by two people. But this budget only

645
00:56:00,72 --> 00:56:04,62
increased it by one person to go back to
the two thousand and eight two thousand

646
00:56:04,63 --> 00:56:11,28
and nine staffing level. But if I remember
correctly at that meeting it was just

647
00:56:11,29 --> 00:56:15,18
like this huge amount and we could not
operate our plant if we didn't have that

648
00:56:15,19 --> 00:56:19,35
level of staffing and yet now we've come
back around and we didn't ask for that

649
00:56:19,36 --> 00:56:23,98
level of staffing so I guess I'm just
curious as to why. You are correct I went

650
00:56:23,99 --> 00:56:27,45
back and looked at her staff report on
our presentation and there were two

651
00:56:27,46 --> 00:56:34,24
additional items in the. Requisition
request there is one. I

652
00:56:34,56 --> 00:56:39,31
have not prepared as to our whole
background I and maybe I can even ask for

653
00:56:40,23 --> 00:56:46,87
Director of Public Works and city
engineer to. Call that that transition

654
00:56:46,87 --> 00:56:52,49
. I don't remember the transition I do
know that we have filled all the positions

655
00:56:52,50 --> 00:56:56,76
that we had authorized
and we are doing quite

656
00:56:56,77 --> 00:57:01,76
a bit better than we had hoped we have
hired some very good operators told us you

657
00:57:01,77 --> 00:57:07,60
know what happened you doubted me we would
be very lucky I'm gifted and I'm very

658
00:57:07,61 --> 00:57:13,76
biggest. I remember that's
the situation the same

659
00:57:13,77 --> 00:57:15,27
a suit is that there was

660
00:57:15,28 --> 00:57:21,49
a hurry up and hire these people
increasing not only having two

661
00:57:21,50 --> 00:57:26,05
positions that were out there being or
should have been advertised for but an

662
00:57:26,06 --> 00:57:30,40
additional two positions and then I expected
it to be in this budget and it wasn't

663
00:57:30,41 --> 00:57:35,04
so that's great that things are working
the way they are as well as they are with

664
00:57:35,05 --> 00:57:40,42
the numbers with the manpower that you.
And we also heard your concerns and we

665
00:57:40,43 --> 00:57:46,63
evaluated our position based on where we
were at the time we prepared but. I'm not

666
00:57:46,65 --> 00:57:50,19
happy about it. I'm glad it worked out

667
00:57:50,19 --> 00:57:56,94
. And yeah I mean it.

668
00:58:00,75 --> 00:58:05,91
The only other thing I've got is that I'm
doing mentioned in the next agenda item

669
00:58:05,92 --> 00:58:07,45
we're going to be looking at

670
00:58:08,02 --> 00:58:13,24
a request expenditure out of the RID OF
element agency of almost four hundred

671
00:58:13,25 --> 00:58:16,37
thousand dollars can just if we could have

672
00:58:16,38 --> 00:58:22,09
a quick discussion about where those funds
would come from and I'm I've looked at

673
00:58:22,10 --> 00:58:27,58
the cash balances by fund page to
twenty on to the redevelopment agency

674
00:58:27,58 --> 00:58:32,80
. If that would be hard but maybe
Gary can direct this is to.

675
00:58:34,71 --> 00:58:40,77
You're asking about can essentially the
long term. Ability for the real me agency

676
00:58:40,78 --> 00:58:46,12
to do. With these with these projected
revenues and these projected

677
00:58:46,95 --> 00:58:52,68
expenditures such as debt service and also
the internal debt service that we have

678
00:58:53,03 --> 00:58:58,85
and the staff that this redevelopment
agency. Employ so to speak to deliver these

679
00:58:58,86 --> 00:59:04,17
problems based on this budget that we're
presenting to you know the long term

680
00:59:05,03 --> 00:59:07,12
survivability of the R.T.A.

681
00:59:07,13 --> 00:59:13,09
Whether whatever the state has done and
if they impose also the extra requirement

682
00:59:13,10 --> 00:59:18,99
of providing and I'm using the the
word that R R R R T attorney are

683
00:59:19,00 --> 00:59:23,52
a Chang is used in what's being used
throughout the vocabulary of California R.T.A.

684
00:59:23,69 --> 00:59:30,49
The ransom money to the state to continue
existing in certain that's addressed. We

685
00:59:30,50 --> 00:59:35,35
would not survive for very many years we
would just be depleted of cash so there

686
00:59:35,36 --> 00:59:35,63
would be

687
00:59:35,64 --> 00:59:41,77
a significant structural change of what we
would do we would have to figure out how

688
00:59:41,78 --> 00:59:46,48
to shed some debt we would have to figure
out how to shed staff we'd have to figure

689
00:59:46,49 --> 00:59:51,21
out how to shed some expenditures and then
we'd have to evaluate do we still have

690
00:59:51,22 --> 00:59:55,11
a viable program but with that
said the redevelopment C.

691
00:59:55,20 --> 01:00:01,70
Does have it has incurred
debt to. Acquire to do to

692
01:00:01,71 --> 01:00:02,37
initiate

693
01:00:02,38 --> 01:00:09,23
a number of citywide. Drainage issues
projects and that's what we concur debt

694
01:00:09,24 --> 01:00:14,09
for and those as we understand it will
continue on or our ability to continue that

695
01:00:14,10 --> 01:00:20,25
on will be there to put those those
monies into infrastructure so there's

696
01:00:20,26 --> 01:00:25,69
a lot at play and I'm quite frankly I'm not
prepared to give you the answer because

697
01:00:25,70 --> 01:00:31,43
it's still in flux and no one that I've
talked to that would be in the know really

698
01:00:31,44 --> 01:00:36,09
knows what the legislative action is done
with the. Governor signing these bills or

699
01:00:36,10 --> 01:00:39,13
what this would do but
we do know the R.T.A.

700
01:00:39,14 --> 01:00:42,32
Budget as it as we're
asking you to drop is just

701
01:00:42,33 --> 01:00:44,11
a short term thing to say that we have

702
01:00:44,12 --> 01:00:49,24
a budget we have some more work to do and
more than likely based on what we get his

703
01:00:49,25 --> 01:00:54,86
direction from the agency board determine
how we're going to go by budget or

704
01:00:54,87 --> 01:00:59,05
whether we're going to actually put ourselves
out of business just because again as

705
01:00:59,06 --> 01:01:05,48
I used the term last last meeting you
instant death as currently in law by

706
01:01:06,24 --> 01:01:07,83
the state we're going to do

707
01:01:07,84 --> 01:01:14,76
a shore of Long Term. Death over multiple
years I don't know the answer that but

708
01:01:14,77 --> 01:01:19,92
I'm not necessarily saying that those are
only options things could change just

709
01:01:19,93 --> 01:01:25,37
based on the other report I'm going to
give you in my We're reporting the end of

710
01:01:25,38 --> 01:01:32,23
this me. So the answer is I don't
know. Of course my concern is

711
01:01:32,24 --> 01:01:36,68
when you look at the operational
says the deficit of the R.T.A.

712
01:01:36,68 --> 01:01:41,95
. Projected to be of negative six hundred
twenty one thousand dollars and that as I

713
01:01:41,96 --> 01:01:46,60
understand it doesn't even add on the
need to support it almost four hundred

714
01:01:46,61 --> 01:01:50,75
thousand dollars payment ransom that we
would be making to the county auditors

715
01:01:50,84 --> 01:01:56,77
office if that resolution passes no it
doesn't and that's a cash flow and it is

716
01:01:56,78 --> 01:02:01,40
a significant problem thank you for certainly
seeing the obvious Not everyone you

717
01:02:01,41 --> 01:02:06,33
know the state has looked at already
agencies as an awful money that you can keep

718
01:02:06,34 --> 01:02:11,46
on giving even in our story is I'm
finding out is not different than

719
01:02:11,53 --> 01:02:16,85
a lot of redevelopment agencies in the
state of California is that provision to

720
01:02:16,86 --> 01:02:22,44
provide even ransom money just the ability
to do that on an ongoing basis it might

721
01:02:22,45 --> 01:02:28,84
be one time but you certainly can do it
year after year and still survive. So I

722
01:02:28,85 --> 01:02:32,55
don't know what's going to happen but
we do know that we need to bring back

723
01:02:32,56 --> 01:02:38,86
something right now the the law we believe
is on going on constitutional but it

724
01:02:38,87 --> 01:02:45,25
says that if we don't do anything. The
real only see Will and October first no

725
01:02:45,26 --> 01:02:50,56
matter what So that's another part we have
to determine the question is that might

726
01:02:50,57 --> 01:02:54,61
be the easiest way out but I don't know
how then we initiate all those projects

727
01:02:54,76 --> 01:02:56,67
that we already have on
the books if the R.T.A.

728
01:02:56,68 --> 01:03:01,33
Isn't going to be here as the city
staff and take those over and doom is

729
01:03:01,34 --> 01:03:07,11
a city project because the money that we
borrowed is still pledged and the state

730
01:03:07,24 --> 01:03:12,32
has to as we understand it still has to
provide us cannot take that revenue away

731
01:03:12,33 --> 01:03:17,08
for as pledged. I have a feeling
the state Supreme Court has

732
01:03:17,09 --> 01:03:23,13
a lot of work in front of them.
And sorry for the non-answer

733
01:03:23,13 --> 01:03:29,41
. But you could say thank you if you can
say the same thing with that item D.

734
01:03:30,40 --> 01:03:34,27
Right he would be in the yellow
took the thunder out of D.C.

735
01:03:34,27 --> 01:03:41,16
. If there aren't any other questions
right next to the to the public is

736
01:03:41,17 --> 01:03:45,09
any one of them. Presses on
any of these budget items.

737
01:03:57,05 --> 01:04:02,44
First I want to ask generally
quite a mystery you made

738
01:04:02,45 --> 01:04:05,23
a point of saying that the C.I. P.

739
01:04:05,24 --> 01:04:10,17
Has given authority for him to spend money
on projects this year the approval. So

740
01:04:10,18 --> 01:04:16,88
my first question is whether or
not this budget has an. Include

741
01:04:16,92 --> 01:04:23,68
plenty of for that I know that in the
case of the water. And the price of it

742
01:04:23,100 --> 01:04:26,69
in price when it comes
from bond fund do you see

743
01:04:26,70 --> 01:04:31,54
a piece has been phoning in water reserve
So my question is where where in the

744
01:04:31,55 --> 01:04:36,92
budget is the water reserve and where is
the bond located in this regard by that

745
01:04:36,93 --> 01:04:43,19
information. Just like
you have had an answer

746
01:04:44,25 --> 01:04:51,19
back on the pages. But we
don't have too far back in

747
01:04:51,21 --> 01:04:57,35
the fund balance pages they show the net
result of that activity but there's

748
01:04:57,35 --> 01:05:02,42
a little road that
specifically shows C.I. P.

749
01:05:03,63 --> 01:05:10,16
So for example working with water
finding return to. You would be

750
01:05:10,17 --> 01:05:14,99
page one eighty nine. There's

751
01:05:14,100 --> 01:05:20,01
a row that says capital
expenditures. And it's

752
01:05:20,02 --> 01:05:24,02
a negative number so under water reserves
we're looking at over one point two

753
01:05:24,03 --> 01:05:29,24
million dollars in capital expenditures
and that's just one of the numbers we're

754
01:05:29,25 --> 01:05:33,34
projecting would be expanded from the very
top number which is the eight point two

755
01:05:33,35 --> 01:05:37,53
million dollars. So so what
we're saying is we have

756
01:05:37,54 --> 01:05:42,81
a two point two million dollars to use of
that one point two million would be on

757
01:05:42,82 --> 01:05:44,17
these is that

758
01:05:44,18 --> 01:05:50,30
a two point two million both on funding
and the water reserves yes it is.

759
01:05:52,69 --> 01:05:57,59
And I may add the specific we included
this year something we haven't done in the

760
01:05:57,60 --> 01:06:02,91
past we've actually included the five
year Kaplan print program in the budget

761
01:06:02,92 --> 01:06:08,40
incorporated into it so that your reference
and that is you know you previously of

762
01:06:08,41 --> 01:06:14,26
those and those projects that shows I'm
one of them one but the appropriation

763
01:06:14,27 --> 01:06:21,01
approval starts on page one seventy
four list and it only deals with this

764
01:06:21,02 --> 01:06:27,26
year's projects and those are the under
mounds for those cap one proven projects

765
01:06:27,53 --> 01:06:33,60
and by the adoption of this budget as you
mention approval for those cattle. Thank

766
01:06:33,61 --> 01:06:40,58
you doing. Thank you. The
other Recently I read that

767
01:06:40,58 --> 01:06:44,70
. Authority approving

768
01:06:45,45 --> 01:06:49,93
a presidency IP. That
authority may substitute for

769
01:06:49,97 --> 01:06:55,71
a code requirement to provide
to obtain Council authorization

770
01:06:55,71 --> 01:07:02,69
. I would ask Mr Reagan if you are are and
indeed as you've said before planning

771
01:07:02,70 --> 01:07:08,51
to bring to the council the
bid. Come to the council for

772
01:07:09,09 --> 01:07:15,63
authorization for the. Bidding
on the. Security project

773
01:07:16,67 --> 01:07:20,09
that would be actually when a
time comes to bid to cancel

774
01:07:20,10 --> 01:07:23,84
a cruise date because we have to decide
on which contractor we want to hire OK

775
01:07:24,31 --> 01:07:28,10
Otherwise the capital improvement programs
and stuff have been approved and as he

776
01:07:28,12 --> 01:07:32,39
designed his budget with around the capital
programs so that's that's why it's

777
01:07:32,39 --> 01:07:37,14
going to come back to us just to prove the
person not to prove the amount right OK

778
01:07:37,95 --> 01:07:44,14
That will be the amount what they bet on
so will be the amount of. We like the

779
01:07:44,49 --> 01:07:50,07
lowest bidder we can get. So it's coming
back at you saying it's going back only to

780
01:07:50,08 --> 01:07:55,26
decide who not how much or not to authorize
the spending that's when we find out

781
01:07:55,27 --> 01:08:01,85
how much the project cost OK. Thank
you and then I have one last

782
01:08:01,86 --> 01:08:04,25
question and that is there's

783
01:08:04,29 --> 01:08:11,06
a depreciation expense in the
budget. And of course. The

784
01:08:11,53 --> 01:08:17,08
most expensive is our money that's flowing
to somebody basically depreciation money

785
01:08:17,09 --> 01:08:23,77
does not flow anywhere can
you explain what happens.

786
01:08:24,39 --> 01:08:28,70
What happens that the money actually because
there is no money that changes hands

787
01:08:29,03 --> 01:08:35,26
and yet there is an expense so what you
explain how about how how what happens that

788
01:08:35,27 --> 01:08:42,15
money. And what will you do have the year
correct understanding that depreciation

789
01:08:42,16 --> 01:08:47,31
is not an actual dollar
amount. But when you make

790
01:08:47,44 --> 01:08:51,93
a capital expenditure say something
it's a million dollars It has

791
01:08:51,94 --> 01:08:58,76
a life and I would span say an average of
say fifteen twenty years so so each year

792
01:08:58,77 --> 01:09:00,97
we're allowed to expense

793
01:09:01,02 --> 01:09:07,69
a portion of that life based
on on the type of. Asset that

794
01:09:07,91 --> 01:09:10,03
I demand and it's just

795
01:09:10,04 --> 01:09:16,85
a way of showing how your
initial exposure be insured.

796
01:09:16,85 --> 01:09:17,07
With

797
01:09:17,08 --> 01:09:22,70
a cruel accounting you're not allowed to
show the whole. In governmental accounting

798
01:09:22,71 --> 01:09:28,01
we don't show all of the. Total expenditures
necessarily in one fiscal year one

799
01:09:28,02 --> 01:09:30,48
fiscal period and so the
depreciation is just

800
01:09:30,49 --> 01:09:34,43
a way of putting it over that
the other fiscal years has had

801
01:09:34,44 --> 01:09:41,22
a good answer. That is my understanding I
understand that. My I guess my question

802
01:09:41,23 --> 01:09:47,32
is is that. In a situation
where I. I was on

803
01:09:47,33 --> 01:09:49,31
a board that had property and

804
01:09:49,69 --> 01:09:56,37
a small one nonprofit the depreciation
was actually not part of the budget it

805
01:09:56,38 --> 01:09:57,06
was there was

806
01:09:57,07 --> 01:10:03,49
a separate capital whatever sheet and
the depreciation was taken off against

807
01:10:04,04 --> 01:10:07,81
the assets and the assets were separate
from the budget that in this case is part

808
01:10:07,82 --> 01:10:10,99
of the but the expenses taken in the budget
and I'm sure that's perfectly There's

809
01:10:11,00 --> 01:10:15,39
nothing wrong with that I'm sure it's
perfectly legal My question is is when all is

810
01:10:15,40 --> 01:10:21,91
said and done there there
must be some type of way. To

811
01:10:22,14 --> 01:10:27,58
move that number someplace else so that
there's actual cap you know because it's

812
01:10:27,59 --> 01:10:34,31
not an actual cash expense so to show if
we have five hundred thousand dollars

813
01:10:34,64 --> 01:10:39,85
in depreciation expense that means that
we aren't even though we have that five

814
01:10:39,86 --> 01:10:42,65
hundred thousand dollars it looks like we're
spending five hundred thousand dollars

815
01:10:43,32 --> 01:10:49,35
we aren't we have five hundred thousand
dollars so when all is said and done. What

816
01:10:49,36 --> 01:10:56,34
it just meant is made to put that five
hundred thousand. To well insured and

817
01:10:56,43 --> 01:11:00,76
at the end of the year we take that
depreciation expense and we have to roll it out

818
01:11:01,20 --> 01:11:06,09
and then we reduce the amount of the asset
by that amount. So if you have an asset

819
01:11:06,10 --> 01:11:08,29
that's say ten million dollars and we have

820
01:11:08,30 --> 01:11:13,44
a million dollars worth of deep depreciation
expense for that fiscal year at the

821
01:11:13,45 --> 01:11:20,23
end of the year we reduced that
depreciation expense line and then

822
01:11:20,30 --> 01:11:22,37
reduce the asset so as

823
01:11:22,38 --> 01:11:29,32
a placeholder you know.
Thank you Dana. And correct

824
01:11:29,33 --> 01:11:31,29
me if I'm wrong but there's not

825
01:11:31,30 --> 01:11:35,77
a figure that's attached to depreciation
that shows up in the analysis of cash

826
01:11:36,10 --> 01:11:40,72
balances for instance in the
general fund report it's

827
01:11:40,73 --> 01:11:47,32
a zero I mean there's nothing. Shows on the
enterprise funds yet it's an enterprise

828
01:11:47,33 --> 01:11:52,55
plan right now with the general fund it
out of the Emerald fund cash balances.

829
01:11:52,55 --> 01:11:54,44
Governmental accounting
is different to me in

830
01:11:54,45 --> 01:11:58,98
a prize account that's what I was just going
to say when when. I first got on here

831
01:11:58,99 --> 01:12:02,70
that depreciation from the way I do with
my business and the way city has to do it

832
01:12:02,71 --> 01:12:05,53
is back and right I mean it's

833
01:12:05,54 --> 01:12:10,01
a big difference and enterprise funds are
more like business funds governmental

834
01:12:10,02 --> 01:12:12,55
funds are governmental funds
yet you would have yours

835
01:12:12,56 --> 01:12:18,01
a different standard for each of them.
Right as anyone else in the public that

836
01:12:18,02 --> 01:12:24,73
would like to ask any
questions. Which may or may

837
01:12:24,74 --> 01:12:29,08
commercial close public comment period
that it's been has been seconded to close

838
01:12:29,09 --> 01:12:32,30
public comment period on in favor
signify by saying I will write

839
01:12:32,31 --> 01:12:39,07
a. Post. Closed I don't understand
why they don't want to ask

840
01:12:39,08 --> 01:12:45,37
questions about numbers. Let me answer
them all in the workshop so well that

841
01:12:45,37 --> 01:12:51,46
. We have three motions to make yes we have
three motions may I make the first one

842
01:12:51,55 --> 01:12:57,74
for the city council. And that's to
motion to adopt resolution twenty eleven

843
01:12:58,35 --> 01:13:04,25
that's twenty nine and read by title
only so I can. We're moving seconded to

844
01:13:04,26 --> 01:13:08,62
approved resolution two thousand and eleven
dash twenty nine resolution of the city

845
01:13:08,63 --> 01:13:12,88
council of the city of four to doubt adopting
the annual budget of fiscal year two

846
01:13:12,89 --> 01:13:17,69
thousand and two thousand and twelve and
adopt an annual appropriation limit as

847
01:13:17,70 --> 01:13:23,11
required by the California
Constitution Article. I was at X.

848
01:13:23,27 --> 01:13:28,43
And one. Guesses arise I read
those are I have trouble with

849
01:13:28,44 --> 01:13:31,65
a woman in the game thirteen B.

850
01:13:31,65 --> 01:13:37,97
. Roll call please if you leave after
question you know that business take into

851
01:13:37,98 --> 01:13:43,60
account all the employees or whatever we
call it is our body on board we will give

852
01:13:43,61 --> 01:13:43,71
you

853
01:13:43,72 --> 01:13:49,17
a report for that question no we don't that
it does have that parameter built into

854
01:13:49,18 --> 01:13:55,94
it OK. Council member Glazer
Yes ma'am Johnson IMO Yes

855
01:13:55,99 --> 01:14:00,53
don't remember mostly yes their
protests and say Yes yes

856
01:14:00,53 --> 01:14:07,70
.

857
01:14:08,11 --> 01:14:09,83
Mr Mayor make a motion would you approve

858
01:14:09,84 --> 01:14:15,75
a resolution number R D. Two
two zero one one dash zero two

859
01:14:15,75 --> 01:14:22,36
. Second we moved in
seconded to prove resolution

860
01:14:22,37 --> 01:14:28,92
number R D eight two zero one one dash
zero two the resolution of the Fortuna

861
01:14:28,93 --> 01:14:33,20
Redevelopment Agency adopting the annual
budget for the fiscal year two thousand

862
01:14:33,21 --> 01:14:38,35
and eleven two thousand and twelve and
establish an indebtedness to be incurred by

863
01:14:38,36 --> 01:14:43,86
the agency in accordance with Section three
three six zero six of the California

864
01:14:43,87 --> 01:14:49,51
Health and Safety Code local police and
we're going to Geyser Yes ma'am BOARD

865
01:14:49,52 --> 01:14:55,35
MEMBER Yes or number Alosi Yes or numbers
then say yes to your stroke yes.

866
01:14:56,81 --> 01:15:00,05
Mr Chairman I make a motion to
approve a resolution F.B.I.

867
01:15:00,06 --> 01:15:07,06
C two zero one one day actually zero
one. So I can be moved and seconded

868
01:15:07,07 --> 01:15:11,88
to approve a resolution F P I see
two thousand and eleven dash

869
01:15:11,92 --> 01:15:17,80
a one resolution and therefore to not public
him prove that cooperation I doubt in

870
01:15:17,81 --> 01:15:21,26
an annual budget for the fiscal year two
thousand and eleven two thousand and

871
01:15:21,27 --> 01:15:26,99
twelve roll call policeman board member
guys or Yes Ma'am or member long were

872
01:15:26,100 --> 01:15:31,51
MEMBER Yes were members
and saying yes. Yes

873
01:15:31,51 --> 01:15:38,57
.

874
01:15:38,82 --> 01:15:45,81
And you know. I am via business
is the public hearing to

875
01:15:45,82 --> 01:15:50,13
consider the options available to the
city for continuing existence of the

876
01:15:50,24 --> 01:15:55,83
operation of the redevelopment agency of
the city of fourteen or. Docking ordinance

877
01:15:55,84 --> 01:16:02,76
two thousand and eleven dash
six nine one. Thank you. Mayor

878
01:16:02,77 --> 01:16:09,68
and Council members and share. This
action if taken up as you know

879
01:16:09,69 --> 01:16:10,50
this is

880
01:16:10,51 --> 01:16:15,85
a ordinance of the city council because the
city council or Fortuna is in fact the

881
01:16:16,19 --> 01:16:17,86
the body that did create

882
01:16:17,92 --> 01:16:23,45
a Fortuna redevelop major city and under
parameters and provisions in the state

883
01:16:23,46 --> 01:16:29,20
budget that was adopted and signed by the
governor if action is taken it has to be

884
01:16:29,21 --> 01:16:32,24
done by the body that formed
the real money from C.

885
01:16:32,25 --> 01:16:38,71
So in that case it is the city council.
I've had several conversations most of

886
01:16:38,72 --> 01:16:43,46
which is by email with our redevelopment
agency attorney Ira sharing and this is as

887
01:16:43,47 --> 01:16:47,60
I mentioned in my previous part when we
were talking about the budget and ongoing

888
01:16:47,61 --> 01:16:54,55
issue what the what the California
legislature and what the governor signed is

889
01:16:54,56 --> 01:17:00,38
two companion bills as part of the
budget adoption and one is A.B. One X.

890
01:17:00,39 --> 01:17:04,61
Twenty six and the other one is
eighty one X. Twenty seven A.B.

891
01:17:04,62 --> 01:17:10,91
Being an assembly bill and requiring
that each reader Olmeda see be dissolved

892
01:17:10,97 --> 01:17:14,65
unless the community
that created it in Acts

893
01:17:14,66 --> 01:17:19,82
a ordinance committing to making certain
payments and so the community that did

894
01:17:19,83 --> 01:17:24,80
this was as I mentioned the City
Council specifically A.B. One X.

895
01:17:24,81 --> 01:17:31,45
Twenty six prohibits agencies from taking
numerous actions affect immediately and

896
01:17:31,46 --> 01:17:37,01
purporting retroactively and additionally
provides that agencies are deemed to be

897
01:17:37,02 --> 01:17:42,79
dissolved as of October one two thousand
and eleven. Now they have one of the

898
01:17:42,80 --> 01:17:47,17
actions that occurred day by both the
League of California cities and the

899
01:17:47,18 --> 01:17:52,17
California redevelopment is Agency
Association excuse me that's the California

900
01:17:52,26 --> 01:17:56,96
redevelopment Association which we are
members of both of those have filed

901
01:17:56,97 --> 01:18:03,69
a lawsuit with the state Supreme
Court and has gone forward saying

902
01:18:03,84 --> 01:18:10,05
that the action of both the legislature
and the governor was illegal because of

903
01:18:10,22 --> 01:18:16,70
various constitutional items about
redevelopment agencies and also the reason why

904
01:18:16,71 --> 01:18:21,50
doctrine of Proposition twenty two by the
voters last November that would make

905
01:18:21,51 --> 01:18:27,59
their action as well as both of the league
and the read only agent Association

906
01:18:27,60 --> 01:18:34,48
believe is unconstitutional on its face
so the lawsuit acts asked the. The

907
01:18:34,49 --> 01:18:40,93
state supreme court to enter in that and
determine the merits of that argument and

908
01:18:40,94 --> 01:18:45,57
also has asked for a stay that
the that the court would issue

909
01:18:45,58 --> 01:18:50,28
a stay preventing any action to go
forward and essentially freeze this in

910
01:18:50,29 --> 01:18:54,16
a matter of time until the
state supreme court can make

911
01:18:54,17 --> 01:19:01,04
a ruling. That got filed today and I
don't know when and if the response is

912
01:19:01,05 --> 01:19:01,64
going to be

913
01:19:01,92 --> 01:19:07,25
a day or two weeks or five months but
the deadline from our perspective is

914
01:19:07,26 --> 01:19:13,82
certainly one October. Because if no action
is taken by us and the state Supreme

915
01:19:13,83 --> 01:19:20,49
Court doesn't take any action by the merits
of adopting those two assembly bills

916
01:19:20,77 --> 01:19:21,89
is the read only D.C.

917
01:19:21,90 --> 01:19:27,01
Is dead as of one October
so the. Excuse me.

918
01:19:30,10 --> 01:19:34,65
So the ordinance that's presented
to unite is to me a brigantine of

919
01:19:34,66 --> 01:19:39,92
a discussion determining whether in the
wishes of the city council as to how you

920
01:19:39,93 --> 01:19:42,82
want to go about this
action obviously there's

921
01:19:42,83 --> 01:19:48,85
a lot of things going on simultaneously
and they can all happen appended to each

922
01:19:48,86 --> 01:19:53,39
other and some things can and can let's
make the assumption that the Supreme Court

923
01:19:53,40 --> 01:19:55,57
does enter in on this does issue

924
01:19:55,58 --> 01:20:00,51
a stay does adjudicate this issue
and rules in our favor Dan

925
01:20:00,52 --> 01:20:03,72
a lot of this stuff doesn't have to we
still have to deal with the budget and

926
01:20:03,73 --> 01:20:05,31
whether we can continue doing

927
01:20:05,32 --> 01:20:10,59
a number of other things with that service
but that issue goes way that's also make

928
01:20:10,60 --> 01:20:14,42
the assumption that the state Supreme
Court decides not to take up this case or

929
01:20:14,43 --> 01:20:15,83
even hear it or even issue

930
01:20:15,84 --> 01:20:22,29
a stay then these rules stand so we don't
know any of that and so we have to from

931
01:20:22,30 --> 01:20:28,24
my perspective is kind of plan and head as
to which way this can end up going down

932
01:20:28,25 --> 01:20:34,53
the road as to what the direction of that
council will be by taking action and you

933
01:20:34,54 --> 01:20:36,04
know do seeing and and doing

934
01:20:36,05 --> 01:20:41,37
a first reading of this ordinance at least
you've set the ball in motion that if

935
01:20:41,38 --> 01:20:44,93
indeed you want to continue the the R.T.A.

936
01:20:45,07 --> 01:20:50,33
Past one October assuming again the state
Supreme Court has taken no action that

937
01:20:50,34 --> 01:20:56,64
indeed that's in play but as I regime and.
I made sure I completely understood and

938
01:20:56,65 --> 01:21:02,50
I I think I did long before I asked her
is if we have no intention of making the

939
01:21:02,51 --> 01:21:07,38
payments that they're asking for and I'll
use the word ransom payments then there

940
01:21:07,39 --> 01:21:12,81
is no reason to do this because by default
even if you pass this ordinance or adopt

941
01:21:12,82 --> 01:21:17,86
this ordinance apps under two different
readings if we don't make the ransom

942
01:21:17,87 --> 01:21:24,09
payment and again assuming that statement
isn't entered into the fray. We're dead

943
01:21:24,10 --> 01:21:30,07
on arrival so lack of payment also kills
so even adopting your don't say no yes

944
01:21:30,08 --> 01:21:35,10
we'll pay you the state and this money
that you've asked for if we don't actually

945
01:21:35,11 --> 01:21:41,62
follow it up with action then the lack of
action also as I say are what the point

946
01:21:41,63 --> 01:21:45,85
of putting this ordinance in front of you
is to give you some breath and in the

947
01:21:45,86 --> 01:21:50,64
background as to what we would have to do
if we feel we need to do something and to

948
01:21:50,65 --> 01:21:57,48
set the ball in motion at this particular
moment I could see no adverse effects

949
01:21:57,48 --> 01:22:03,84
. If the council did indeed introduce into

950
01:22:03,85 --> 01:22:09,82
a first reading this ordinance because. You
could if you choose to change your mind

951
01:22:10,43 --> 01:22:14,58
don't do the second reading and
rescind the why or even if you did

952
01:22:14,59 --> 01:22:18,30
a second reading of this ordinance we
could again resend it if you changed your

953
01:22:18,31 --> 01:22:23,05
mind depending on the outcome if indeed the
state supreme court enters in and makes

954
01:22:23,06 --> 01:22:28,24
ruling that make and you did adopt this
ordinance it makes it moot assuming again

955
01:22:28,42 --> 01:22:33,80
the state Supreme Court rules in favor of
redevelopment agencies. Obviously there's

956
01:22:33,81 --> 01:22:39,72
a lot of what ifs and it could be and maybe
even the poor there is as we also say

957
01:22:39,73 --> 01:22:45,05
his attorney sometimes respond it depends
it depends on what the future's kind of

958
01:22:45,11 --> 01:22:51,68
going to be I'm just trying to give you
various options by initiating these that

959
01:22:51,84 --> 01:22:57,17
you could have more choices in the future
I didn't want us to wait until let's say

960
01:22:57,59 --> 01:23:02,68
the first meeting in September and start
bringing these actions forward because the

961
01:23:02,69 --> 01:23:08,37
state Supreme Court hadn't taken the actions
and we only have. So many days to act

962
01:23:08,38 --> 01:23:13,46
again I remind you that adoption order
an ordinance takes an introduction first

963
01:23:13,47 --> 01:23:14,43
reading takes

964
01:23:14,44 --> 01:23:20,41
a second reading and adoption and then
thirty days to cure so we're already talking

965
01:23:20,81 --> 01:23:24,49
if we're following normal council
meetings we're already talking about

966
01:23:24,53 --> 01:23:30,02
a two month process so I didn't think it's
premature to present this to you for not

967
01:23:30,03 --> 01:23:34,54
only discussion if you don't want to do
this is the evening we can put this off

968
01:23:34,55 --> 01:23:40,09
until the first meeting and then August on
August first and take it up then and by

969
01:23:40,10 --> 01:23:41,41
that time might know

970
01:23:41,42 --> 01:23:47,04
a lot more or you indeed you could do your
introduction first the first reading of

971
01:23:47,05 --> 01:23:52,82
this ordinance tonight but I believe the
ordinance in itself is fairly clear with

972
01:23:52,83 --> 01:23:58,12
all the with various whereas if it isn't
then we can discuss those and the now

973
01:23:58,13 --> 01:24:02,76
therefore of what we can do and the other
provisions of those again I think are

974
01:24:02,77 --> 01:24:09,22
very clear it does if we do this
it does commit is. Making and some

975
01:24:09,23 --> 01:24:14,91
payments and again if we don't make
them default on this whole mess. That's

976
01:24:14,92 --> 01:24:20,62
essentially what my staff report is and
I tried to summarize it the important

977
01:24:20,63 --> 01:24:24,62
factors out of the ordinance directly in
the staff report and of course there's

978
01:24:24,63 --> 01:24:30,42
a lot more to deal with and as I mentioned
the loss of did get filed today I doubt

979
01:24:30,43 --> 01:24:33,60
that the court will make
a ruling tomorrow. Just

980
01:24:33,64 --> 01:24:35,55
a guess but hopefully they'll make

981
01:24:35,56 --> 01:24:40,77
a ruling before walk to work. So that's
my report and if you have any questions I

982
01:24:40,78 --> 01:24:47,55
will attempt to answer
them. Yes the first ransom

983
01:24:47,56 --> 01:24:53,29
payment of three ninety three one
seventeen is approximately half of the

984
01:24:53,30 --> 01:24:54,72
a projected R.T.A.

985
01:24:54,73 --> 01:25:01,59
Income for this year that's correct.
And if I understood you right if we

986
01:25:01,60 --> 01:25:06,96
had up to this ordinance tonight we could
change your direction our mind in the

987
01:25:06,97 --> 01:25:13,03
following second reading you could you
could neither not do the second reading we

988
01:25:13,04 --> 01:25:16,78
could do and or bad back away from it you
could still do the second reading and

989
01:25:16,79 --> 01:25:22,76
then. Rescinded later or just
by action of the court I have

990
01:25:22,77 --> 01:25:26,92
a feeling the next couple weeks will know
more information than we know right now

991
01:25:27,71 --> 01:25:32,77
but that's my point of the my recommendation
to move forward with the first ransom

992
01:25:32,78 --> 01:25:37,20
payment in this ordinance and give us

993
01:25:37,21 --> 01:25:43,67
a little time to see what the Supreme
Court's going to do about this whether

994
01:25:43,68 --> 01:25:48,89
they're going to take this up or not and
that'll at least start the process moving

995
01:25:48,90 --> 01:25:55,17
from our end we're going to lose the whole
thing one way or the other and. Without

996
01:25:55,18 --> 01:25:59,63
knowing what the Supreme Court's going to
act on less I think we should keep the

997
01:26:00,09 --> 01:26:00,58
R.T.A.

998
01:26:00,59 --> 01:26:07,98
Alive until that is known to us one
of the other things that really

999
01:26:07,99 --> 01:26:13,01
sure and I'm far as I know no one can
answer definitively because the assembly

1000
01:26:13,02 --> 01:26:18,88
bills of two that were passed are in some
cases extremely vague and maybe even

1001
01:26:19,01 --> 01:26:25,95
contradictory but even if our
agency was died it was. No

1002
01:26:25,96 --> 01:26:32,00
one what happens to our assets. Not really
very clear what happens to our housing

1003
01:26:32,01 --> 01:26:36,76
set aside funds in all the other development
agencies that are tight so the money

1004
01:26:36,77 --> 01:26:41,02
that came to us from tax increment Now
there's other funds in the redevelopment

1005
01:26:41,03 --> 01:26:45,28
agency that we hold there that have nothing
to do with tax income and such as our C

1006
01:26:45,29 --> 01:26:50,15
B G funds we're not talking about those
but no one is clearly identified what's

1007
01:26:50,16 --> 01:26:55,23
going to happen to those and what we have
been told in understand again through our

1008
01:26:55,24 --> 01:27:02,17
attorney is the money that we have in hand
that our bond proceeds our bond proceeds

1009
01:27:02,18 --> 01:27:06,59
that can't be taken from us because those
are revenues those are money that we

1010
01:27:06,60 --> 01:27:12,11
receive by pledging future tax income
revenues so the tax revenues to bring

1011
01:27:12,12 --> 01:27:16,42
revenues that have been pledged to return
to repay that debt can't be taken away by

1012
01:27:16,43 --> 01:27:22,24
the state because that was financial pledged
don't have the authority don't know

1013
01:27:23,18 --> 01:27:28,09
I'm relying on bond counsels an arm
relying on Reno and you see attorneys and

1014
01:27:28,10 --> 01:27:33,49
people that you know have the expertise
behind this to listen to their advice but

1015
01:27:33,50 --> 01:27:39,41
again we don't know and we don't know how
staff can implement these things or if

1016
01:27:39,42 --> 01:27:42,83
you're not going to have an A real home
agency staff at all that's going to have to

1017
01:27:42,84 --> 01:27:47,22
be city staff there runs what
remanent left is laughter the R.T.A.

1018
01:27:47,45 --> 01:27:54,35
Again I don't know. And with that
right on page two thirty six the

1019
01:27:54,58 --> 01:28:01,32
third whereas down gives us. Gives
me confidence anyway in that if the

1020
01:28:01,33 --> 01:28:05,24
Supreme Court acts in our favor we'll
get are we party a money back with

1021
01:28:05,28 --> 01:28:10,82
a low interest penalty and I would like
to believe that. You're right and you're

1022
01:28:10,83 --> 01:28:15,11
going to get interest ever. When there's
this payment of three hundred ninety three

1023
01:28:15,12 --> 01:28:18,55
thousand you just October first that's

1024
01:28:18,65 --> 01:28:25,36
a lot of years. General fifteen
I'm sorry thank you but. Oh

1025
01:28:26,29 --> 01:28:32,29
so the October first deadline is yes it
would be I believe yes you're right thank

1026
01:28:32,30 --> 01:28:38,37
you very much it's January so we have time
to do it though the reason why but it's

1027
01:28:38,38 --> 01:28:44,70
January is because it's same time as property
taxes so property taxes are doing so

1028
01:28:44,71 --> 01:28:51,48
on and that number was provided to us by
both the league and obviously also by

1029
01:28:51,52 --> 01:28:52,89
Irish yang but there's

1030
01:28:52,90 --> 01:28:56,83
a schedule that has already been published
as to what the first ransom payment

1031
01:28:56,84 --> 01:29:01,66
would be there speculation to some extent
as to what the second the third and

1032
01:29:01,71 --> 01:29:06,76
subsequent ransom payments would be we
believe there are less I think the number

1033
01:29:06,77 --> 01:29:11,70
we've talked about the second installment
would be. In the ninety thousand hundred

1034
01:29:11,71 --> 01:29:13,04
thousand dollars but again that's

1035
01:29:13,05 --> 01:29:19,95
a huge amount of money and as you recall
already made two demands in previous years

1036
01:29:19,96 --> 01:29:20,48
will have

1037
01:29:20,49 --> 01:29:25,46
a million and then almost one hundred
thousand last year or this year and we're

1038
01:29:25,47 --> 01:29:28,83
just left so on the state has absorbed

1039
01:29:28,84 --> 01:29:35,68
a great deal of our local monies. So I

1040
01:29:35,69 --> 01:29:41,90
I understand that this is an ordinance
that you're asking or that we're going to

1041
01:29:42,09 --> 01:29:47,16
look at a dollar to. Be used
in this might be more of

1042
01:29:47,17 --> 01:29:49,57
a question for David is this

1043
01:29:49,58 --> 01:29:54,79
a contract that we're entering into and
if so if we do default then what kind of

1044
01:29:54,85 --> 01:30:01,47
what kind of an incumbrance does that
put police on the city for future

1045
01:30:01,67 --> 01:30:08,56
years down the road for instance. Or are
we really tying our hands with this

1046
01:30:08,56 --> 01:30:11,84
. And and is this

1047
01:30:11,85 --> 01:30:16,95
a real contract that we're entering into I
don't see how it can be but maybe it is

1048
01:30:16,95 --> 01:30:23,50
. Not I'm not quite sure how
to react to the question

1049
01:30:23,50 --> 01:30:29,69
. How about if you let me mole it over and
before your meeting in two weeks I give

1050
01:30:29,70 --> 01:30:34,89
you an answer well I don't agree Hm what
the premise of the question that it's the

1051
01:30:34,89 --> 01:30:39,64
onus is on us the state is the entity
that's violating the Constitution

1052
01:30:40,19 --> 01:30:47,09
Constitution and the court has to rule on
that one way or another well the general

1053
01:30:47,09 --> 01:30:47,81
basis of

1054
01:30:47,81 --> 01:30:53,56
a contract is an agreement by two willing
parties and if there aren't two willing

1055
01:30:53,56 --> 01:30:58,45
parties and you don't appear to be here to
thirty six we're agreeing to this under

1056
01:30:58,47 --> 01:31:00,62
protest right so we're not

1057
01:31:00,63 --> 01:31:06,90
a real willing party in drag along
kicking and screaming I'd like very

1058
01:31:07,44 --> 01:31:11,45
and I think it's important
to find out if there's

1059
01:31:11,45 --> 01:31:18,23
a you know what the circumstances are if
we're uncovering the city for years road.

1060
01:31:18,23 --> 01:31:21,29
If something doesn't happen
you know the Supreme Court

1061
01:31:21,29 --> 01:31:28,15
. Me Up

1062
01:31:28,15 --> 01:31:34,98
. I'm just appointed that.
We have to resort to

1063
01:31:34,99 --> 01:31:41,79
this. We totally lost faith in
the constitution it was due to

1064
01:31:41,80 --> 01:31:48,65
California and it's being destroyed by
our elected officials pro party Democrat

1065
01:31:48,65 --> 01:31:55,54
. You're one of the assemblyman just
drove me and Senator Evans sliced

1066
01:31:55,55 --> 01:32:00,52
and diced us but this is in the cow pasture
and we're stepping all over cow patties

1067
01:32:00,53 --> 01:32:04,93
right now in trying to decide how we're
going to handle this. I don't have

1068
01:32:04,94 --> 01:32:08,19
a problem doing the first reading but I
want to do the last reading the last

1069
01:32:08,20 --> 01:32:15,17
meeting. Of August and let
the courts have both sides

1070
01:32:15,18 --> 01:32:20,82
have their presentations done and let
them stew over it. Discussing this making

1071
01:32:20,83 --> 01:32:21,48
a mountain out of

1072
01:32:21,49 --> 01:32:28,08
a molehill I think is just sort of future
all in our part. I want to have I want to

1073
01:32:28,09 --> 01:32:34,95
have high expectations. With our court
system because I'm sure if the state Supreme

1074
01:32:34,96 --> 01:32:41,83
Court. Doesn't go in favor of
the California redevelopment

1075
01:32:41,84 --> 01:32:46,08
agency in the league of California cities
Dillion appeal it but the biggest issues

1076
01:32:46,09 --> 01:32:48,81
that we want to have an issue

1077
01:32:49,54 --> 01:32:54,84
a state to prevent any of these things
going into effect so they can barter and

1078
01:32:54,85 --> 01:32:58,10
bargain and bark of all they want for months
and months and months in the meantime

1079
01:32:58,11 --> 01:33:04,07
there is at stake the leaves everything
status quo so I don't mind doing the first

1080
01:33:04,08 --> 01:33:08,89
reading but but I want to lay the last
reading as long as possible even if we have

1081
01:33:08,90 --> 01:33:09,08
to do

1082
01:33:09,09 --> 01:33:15,69
a special May meeting on the last day of
the last last part of the of August I want

1083
01:33:15,70 --> 01:33:19,06
the courts to haggle this out we don't
really need to hash it out any more in our

1084
01:33:19,07 --> 01:33:24,54
part.

1085
01:33:26,03 --> 01:33:29,51
Right now open to the public and human
from the public like you become the.

1086
01:33:33,22 --> 01:33:34,93
No to close public on

1087
01:33:34,94 --> 01:33:39,63
a second the motion second in the close of
public comment all in favor signify mice

1088
01:33:39,64 --> 01:33:46,39
and I'm.

1089
01:33:49,50 --> 01:33:54,22
Mr Mayor under protest. Make

1090
01:33:54,23 --> 01:34:00,26
a motion to approve ordinance number two
zero one one number six nine and do the

1091
01:34:00,27 --> 01:34:07,14
first reading. Second.
Second the motion. Has

1092
01:34:07,15 --> 01:34:12,60
been moved and seconded to do the first
reading of ordinance number two thousand

1093
01:34:12,61 --> 01:34:17,82
and eleven dash six nine one an ordinance
of the city council for this city of

1094
01:34:17,83 --> 01:34:23,07
Fortuna California you turn
me in it will comply with

1095
01:34:23,08 --> 01:34:29,52
a voluntary alternative redevelopment
program pursuing two part one point nine of

1096
01:34:29,53 --> 01:34:34,14
the division twenty four of the California
Health and Safety Code in order to

1097
01:34:34,15 --> 01:34:39,32
permit to continue existence and operation
of the redevelopment agency for the city

1098
01:34:39,33 --> 01:34:44,62
of Fortuna and I would like to add in there
did to do the second reading as long as

1099
01:34:44,63 --> 01:34:51,11
possible which would be August
fifteenth. And it actually September

1100
01:34:51,67 --> 01:34:51,80
take

1101
01:34:51,81 --> 01:34:57,97
a back I think we ought to just see how this
whole thing unfolds with the court process

1102
01:34:57,98 --> 01:35:03,54
rather than worst case scenario is going
to be September nineteenth. Not to talk

1103
01:35:03,55 --> 01:35:06,98
about it's going to be August fifteenth
with the case you know OK another way we

1104
01:35:06,99 --> 01:35:10,95
could do this is just have it on the
next agenda and if you don't want to do

1105
01:35:10,96 --> 01:35:16,30
a second reading then you can continue
it that way we always have something you

1106
01:35:16,31 --> 01:35:22,27
know when you're not happening when what
the news is as of that day OK at the

1107
01:35:22,28 --> 01:35:29,09
orders of the day we had that.
Week. Council member Glaser under

1108
01:35:29,10 --> 01:35:30,39
protest yes once

1109
01:35:30,40 --> 01:35:36,23
a member long under protest Yes I don't
remember because of the ransom protest

1110
01:35:36,23 --> 01:35:41,20
. I protest but given you

1111
01:35:41,21 --> 01:35:48,18
a affirmative vote. On
our protest. Everyone

1112
01:35:48,19 --> 01:35:51,69
else like you can even many. Yes

1113
01:35:51,69 --> 01:35:57,70
. Next item on the

1114
01:35:57,70 --> 01:36:04,53
. Report from the city attorney
thank you Mayor members of the

1115
01:36:04,54 --> 01:36:09,06
Council. Will recall that a
couple months ago you received

1116
01:36:09,07 --> 01:36:15,75
a citizen complaint. And after some discussion
about it and what to do with it you

1117
01:36:15,76 --> 01:36:22,15
directed me to conduct an investigation.
Of the complaint and I've done that

1118
01:36:22,67 --> 01:36:24,02
I provided you all with

1119
01:36:24,03 --> 01:36:32,08
a copy of the report. As
well as the complainant.

1120
01:36:32,08 --> 01:36:38,31
The complaint itself kind of
expanded from originally two pages

1121
01:36:38,78 --> 01:36:44,97
to twenty ages and then what
I was provided with. Was

1122
01:36:44,98 --> 01:36:51,71
a two hundred five page I think expanded
complaint with supporting documents

1123
01:36:52,16 --> 01:36:57,58
and I appreciate the complainant providing
that information because it it assisted

1124
01:36:57,59 --> 01:37:03,76
me in. Understanding the complaint it
burdened me by having to go through it all

1125
01:37:03,84 --> 01:37:08,41
you know it I mean obviously it was
lengthy but it enabled me to sort of get

1126
01:37:08,42 --> 01:37:14,49
a better understanding of what was being
alleged by the complaint itself. The

1127
01:37:14,50 --> 01:37:21,38
report that I have given you I just want
to. Make sure you understand the format of

1128
01:37:21,39 --> 01:37:28,01
it there's an introduction that kind of
sets the stage then there are twelve

1129
01:37:28,02 --> 01:37:35,01
numbered tabs in the report each number
tab corresponds with the number of the

1130
01:37:35,02 --> 01:37:41,56
complaint so my response number one for
example is meant to go with number one the

1131
01:37:41,57 --> 01:37:48,16
number one complaint unfortunately somewhat
hidden in the report is I think it's

1132
01:37:48,17 --> 01:37:53,72
just the last page that is my conclusion
when I when I took this to the printer and

1133
01:37:54,08 --> 01:37:58,87
and we inserted the tabs and what have you
it didn't really dawn on me that that

1134
01:37:58,88 --> 01:38:05,51
last page the conclusion wouldn't jump out
at you because it's what appears to be

1135
01:38:05,52 --> 01:38:10,52
in number twelve the the final complaint
so I want to make sure that everybody

1136
01:38:10,53 --> 01:38:16,98
understands that there is that last
page that summarizes my view of the

1137
01:38:16,99 --> 01:38:23,60
situation in conducting my review.
I read through the material

1138
01:38:23,61 --> 01:38:26,57
submitted by the complainant I interviewed

1139
01:38:26,58 --> 01:38:32,88
a number of people past and present council
people past and present city staff

1140
01:38:32,89 --> 01:38:39,84
people. And that was the
basis of. My report and my

1141
01:38:39,85 --> 01:38:46,67
conclusions. I guess it would
be fair to characterize

1142
01:38:46,79 --> 01:38:53,19
the result of my inquiry. By saying I think
some of the complaints were well taken

1143
01:38:53,41 --> 01:39:00,31
they they were accurate I think some of
the complaints were were not I was not

1144
01:39:00,32 --> 01:39:06,26
able to find that the
allegation was most accurate

1145
01:39:06,26 --> 01:39:09,91
. There are there were as we might expect

1146
01:39:09,92 --> 01:39:16,61
a number of complaints.
That were factually driven

1147
01:39:17,62 --> 01:39:22,87
He Said She Said that kind of thing
and not being present during those

1148
01:39:22,88 --> 01:39:29,44
conversations. All I could really say was
Here's one version of what happened in

1149
01:39:29,45 --> 01:39:29,72
here

1150
01:39:30,33 --> 01:39:37,58
a different version and which one is
correct I can't pass judgment on.

1151
01:39:37,58 --> 01:39:39,16
Some of the complaints go back

1152
01:39:39,17 --> 01:39:44,75
a number of years and that made it more
difficult for people to recall. Who said

1153
01:39:44,76 --> 01:39:51,40
what or the exact sequence of
events. So you have my report

1154
01:39:52,31 --> 01:39:57,13
if you not this evening because it's not
on the agenda for discussion but if at

1155
01:39:57,14 --> 01:40:03,49
a future meeting you would like to agenda.
The report for for me to give more

1156
01:40:03,50 --> 01:40:08,76
information or answer questions or that
kind of thing I certainly am able to do

1157
01:40:08,77 --> 01:40:13,40
that. If you believe. That the report.

1158
01:40:15,82 --> 01:40:22,36
I didn't cover all the bases or
you would like more information.

1159
01:40:22,36 --> 01:40:27,14
Perhaps I can do that I say
perhaps because this was quite

1160
01:40:27,15 --> 01:40:33,38
a labor intensive process and at
least in my opinion at some point I

1161
01:40:33,39 --> 01:40:34,16
reached

1162
01:40:34,17 --> 01:40:39,77
a point where. It sort of seem like there
was diminishing about you in digging

1163
01:40:39,78 --> 01:40:45,28
deeper and deeper and deeper. That
being said you have my recommendation

1164
01:40:45,28 --> 01:40:52,14
. It's now up to the city council to
decide what to do with this investigation

1165
01:40:52,62 --> 01:40:58,51
whether you want to take it to some other
level whether you want to receive the the

1166
01:40:58,52 --> 01:41:05,48
report and use it as part of an
evaluation process with the manager.

1167
01:41:05,51 --> 01:41:06,50
That's that's more of

1168
01:41:06,51 --> 01:41:13,47
a political thing and that's entirely
within your ballpark so I just want the

1169
01:41:13,53 --> 01:41:17,18
I want the record to show that you asked
me to do something and I've done it I've

1170
01:41:17,19 --> 01:41:23,38
provided you with the results. I suspect
the results are not pleasing to everybody

1171
01:41:24,06 --> 01:41:30,00
perhaps nobody. But I certainly I
gave it my best and honest shot

1172
01:41:30,96 --> 01:41:36,63
I did my best to give you an objective
opinion of the various complaints so I'd be

1173
01:41:36,64 --> 01:41:39,95
happy to answer any questions
if you have questions of me

1174
01:41:39,95 --> 01:41:46,49
.

1175
01:41:47,18 --> 01:41:52,81
I would like to think they would for providing
us with the report in language that

1176
01:41:52,85 --> 01:41:57,24
was easily understood and you dealt with
the legal aspects of you to the allegation

1177
01:41:57,65 --> 01:42:04,21
allegations and. Work
through the. Here are the

1178
01:42:04,22 --> 01:42:05,67
responses to those then

1179
01:42:05,68 --> 01:42:11,83
a manner that even I could understand and
not legal terms and made it very easy to

1180
01:42:11,84 --> 01:42:16,04
understand so thank you very much
for that. I agree I think it's

1181
01:42:16,05 --> 01:42:20,85
a very thorough. Investigation reports and

1182
01:42:20,85 --> 01:42:26,04
. The conclusion recommendation

1183
01:42:26,04 --> 01:42:32,63
. From the deep explicative

1184
01:42:32,67 --> 01:42:35,46
description of your work do
we have to adjust the budget

1185
01:42:35,46 --> 01:42:42,30
. I cetera hallway to

1186
01:42:42,44 --> 01:42:48,10
the next meeting. So you. Know it's

1187
01:42:48,11 --> 01:42:50,58
a thank you so can we make

1188
01:42:50,59 --> 01:42:55,61
a recommendation as to what we are going
to do and we discussed that well it's not

1189
01:42:55,62 --> 01:43:02,32
on your agenda this evening so I guess if
you would like to discuss it. You might

1190
01:43:03,28 --> 01:43:06,74
under future agenda items
ask that it be put on

1191
01:43:06,75 --> 01:43:13,62
a future agenda for some further discussion
if that's your choice. And that's the

1192
01:43:13,63 --> 01:43:20,62
next agenda item. I didn't get that
page could you please share with us

1193
01:43:20,63 --> 01:43:26,31
from your conclusion I didn't get the last
page of the report could you share with

1194
01:43:26,67 --> 01:43:31,96
your conclusion. If you have it but you
haven't gotten to it yet or are you missing

1195
01:43:31,97 --> 01:43:34,25
it I have it OK he's

1196
01:43:34,26 --> 01:43:41,15
a copy of it Friday afternoon OK. But I
have not gotten to that I can feel like

1197
01:43:41,16 --> 01:43:43,59
your conclusion was the
last page and I have

1198
01:43:43,60 --> 01:43:49,44
a and I have looked at some of it. OK but
I append I always like to hear that the

1199
01:43:49,91 --> 01:43:56,52
conclusion OK it's in your
report. It's there it's just not

1200
01:43:56,56 --> 01:43:59,06
tab separately I understand that is there

1201
01:43:59,07 --> 01:44:05,05
a problem with him giving you telling us
this confusion here in the received. Is

1202
01:44:05,06 --> 01:44:05,21
there

1203
01:44:05,22 --> 01:44:10,21
a problem with him getting I don't think
we should spend council time you have to

1204
01:44:10,22 --> 01:44:15,03
go through and read what he's already
provided to you that's my opinion

1205
01:44:15,03 --> 01:44:24,25
.

1206
01:44:27,86 --> 01:44:32,75
OK. Thank you

1207
01:44:32,75 --> 01:44:39,52
. I gave him or. You know
under the next item on the

1208
01:44:39,53 --> 01:44:43,83
agenda for items for Future Gen items when

1209
01:44:43,83 --> 01:44:50,75
. You report from still have that oh yeah

1210
01:44:50,79 --> 01:44:57,72
sorry I skipped over. For
enough thank you. Only have

1211
01:44:57,73 --> 01:45:03,61
a whole but I want to hear anymore thank
you I hate people we have a we have

1212
01:45:03,62 --> 01:45:06,51
a meeting scheduled for next Monday
and I don't want to sound like we're

1213
01:45:06,52 --> 01:45:12,97
continually kicking the can down the alley
staff has spent time creating three

1214
01:45:13,23 --> 01:45:18,26
options on water and sewer rates for
you in graphs and illustrations in the

1215
01:45:18,27 --> 01:45:24,01
voluminous amount of background but I'll
be very frank with you we have not written

1216
01:45:24,02 --> 01:45:28,87
a staff report for you and we needed to
do another piece of clarification since

1217
01:45:28,88 --> 01:45:34,02
there is no real urgency to do that I
didn't know if I would disappoint you if we

1218
01:45:34,03 --> 01:45:35,20
moved into

1219
01:45:35,21 --> 01:45:40,49
a meeting in August and so I was going to
ask you we normally try I been trying to

1220
01:45:40,50 --> 01:45:44,88
keep it a Monday because I know most
of you keep your Mondays open is there

1221
01:45:44,89 --> 01:45:50,31
a meeting on the first meeting in August
is obvious the first and second meeting is

1222
01:45:50,32 --> 01:45:55,44
going to be the fifteenth. Is there any
place I would suggest maybe that fourth

1223
01:45:55,45 --> 01:46:00,19
Monday of August would be more
than adequate time and I'm seeing

1224
01:46:00,20 --> 01:46:03,29
a no right now so. We want to schedule

1225
01:46:03,30 --> 01:46:09,79
a meeting when no one's here OK. It's
possible to get this to you on the eighth

1226
01:46:10,28 --> 01:46:17,15
of can let's continue that the choice to
the eight unless. I'm here. Is say with

1227
01:46:17,16 --> 01:46:22,19
H.S. So there's the work has been
done we just need to package it into

1228
01:46:22,20 --> 01:46:25,87
a station for you and again
I would point out this is

1229
01:46:25,88 --> 01:46:32,24
a workshop of presenting three options.
And to get your direction and guidance as

1230
01:46:32,25 --> 01:46:38,75
to what excuse me what you do it's
not a proposal for adoption or even

1231
01:46:38,96 --> 01:46:45,37
a conclusion as to exactly what
we. Just want to give you options

1232
01:46:46,36 --> 01:46:51,09
so OK so we've schedule that tentatively
for August eighth Monday August eighth

1233
01:46:51,15 --> 01:46:56,80
click six pm six pm So we're going to
package the week before certainly the week

1234
01:46:56,81 --> 01:47:01,47
before yes Mike it is much
is two weeks before that's

1235
01:47:01,48 --> 01:47:07,82
a good change because of what Cliff Clendenning
indicated was the July twenty fifth

1236
01:47:07,83 --> 01:47:12,47
meeting for the redistricting in Rio We
did that just for that yeah I think you

1237
01:47:12,52 --> 01:47:18,37
were. And of course then our next
regular scheduled meetings on the first

1238
01:47:18,37 --> 01:47:23,12
. Other We certainly have talked already
aged to death and everything else and I

1239
01:47:23,13 --> 01:47:29,00
don't have any other news I think that would
be pertinent for you to listen to this

1240
01:47:29,01 --> 01:47:35,38
evening thank you to get questions of any
questions of doing. You stuck to that he

1241
01:47:35,39 --> 01:47:41,26
said earlier. True. And that
future items on the edge and

1242
01:47:41,26 --> 01:47:48,19
. The citizen complaint.
Report of findings

1243
01:47:48,72 --> 01:47:55,68
come on the agenda. By handle
that. Are we sure we want to

1244
01:47:55,70 --> 01:48:02,14
burden the city attorney and city staff
poor more work on that particular report

1245
01:48:02,15 --> 01:48:07,42
which is fairly thorough and then comes
to conclusion that. To me there were no

1246
01:48:07,43 --> 01:48:13,56
smoking guns or bombshells in there that
would. Lead me to believe that we need to

1247
01:48:13,57 --> 01:48:19,41
take some action other than just treat
that information in our performance

1248
01:48:19,42 --> 01:48:26,03
appraisal with the city manager when
it's upcoming So I would suggest that we

1249
01:48:26,42 --> 01:48:33,04
accept the report as written and use the
recommendations in our evaluation of the

1250
01:48:33,05 --> 01:48:39,28
city manager and let it go at that. I would
also agree with them but I'm under the

1251
01:48:39,67 --> 01:48:43,63
understanding since it's not on the agenda
that we would not even be able to take

1252
01:48:43,64 --> 01:48:48,49
that kind of action we can't talk about and
if we don't put it on an agenda as you

1253
01:48:48,50 --> 01:48:52,68
put it in closed session I think that's
correct if If what you would like to do is

1254
01:48:52,69 --> 01:48:58,22
simply confirm receipt of the report and
indicate how you might use it in the

1255
01:48:58,23 --> 01:49:02,75
future I think that should be on an agenda
so you could formally take that action

1256
01:49:02,79 --> 01:49:07,86
OK OK and that and that aspect I agree. OK

1257
01:49:09,80 --> 01:49:14,53
So shoes should be on the next agenda
we can except the fish will accept

1258
01:49:14,54 --> 01:49:21,03
a report when they're OK. We get these

1259
01:49:21,42 --> 01:49:27,71
in. Should we do this is something
we're just new at because this is

1260
01:49:27,72 --> 01:49:30,65
a new item on the agenda when you
do something like that you take

1261
01:49:30,66 --> 01:49:37,49
a vote just to make it official or you say
green because everybody scream No. Well

1262
01:49:37,50 --> 01:49:42,68
at least on this item I didn't hear anybody
scream No and I heard I think three of

1263
01:49:42,69 --> 01:49:48,99
you say yes or nod your head so and I
believe under our new policy and procedures

1264
01:49:49,00 --> 01:49:53,34
manual that it can be done by consensus
I'm sorry I just want to make sure

1265
01:49:53,35 --> 01:50:00,29
everybody understand thing we're
doing. Yeah I see that yes

1266
01:50:00,88 --> 01:50:05,14
OK. You know on two counts of reports

1267
01:50:05,14 --> 01:50:10,39
. Thank you Mr Mayor

1268
01:50:10,39 --> 01:50:16,72
. For on the tracks authority
this coming Friday reason

1269
01:50:17,12 --> 01:50:24,00
a candidate we have is coming from Pennsylvania.
We're going to be interviewing him

1270
01:50:25,24 --> 01:50:30,51
the don't have nothing to report for the
lead California season for milk the policy

1271
01:50:30,52 --> 01:50:35,44
committee. I do want to. Make

1272
01:50:35,45 --> 01:50:41,55
a lot of compliments who are the rodeo
week that we went through from Monday

1273
01:50:41,56 --> 01:50:45,76
through Sunday. A great many

1274
01:50:45,76 --> 01:50:52,51
. Opportunities for the
public to be able to

1275
01:50:52,52 --> 01:50:58,40
come out and participate I think some had
actually go get pumped up his mall with

1276
01:50:58,41 --> 01:51:04,66
the custody of the chili but. That was
their free choice you know being in

1277
01:51:04,67 --> 01:51:11,56
a democracy. I really liked
seeing people coming

1278
01:51:11,57 --> 01:51:18,18
out and enjoying what we were providing
as the rodeo. Association as to the fire

1279
01:51:18,19 --> 01:51:25,15
department. The. Friday night event.

1280
01:51:25,15 --> 01:51:31,47
That occurred there were over forty three
hundred people that came through and I

1281
01:51:31,48 --> 01:51:38,18
have never seen so many people enjoying
every second of it it was amazing. On

1282
01:51:38,19 --> 01:51:44,24
Saturday the one unique thing
happened which hasn't happened for

1283
01:51:44,25 --> 01:51:47,64
a long long time it was a race and

1284
01:51:47,68 --> 01:51:51,41
a lot of people technically got caught with
their pants down not realizing that was

1285
01:51:51,42 --> 01:51:56,34
happening and I was one of them but I was
ahead of the curve by about an hour and

1286
01:51:56,35 --> 01:52:02,18
a half. And was shocked I
remember reading about it.

1287
01:52:03,50 --> 01:52:07,16
But in the back of my mind I'm saying
myself what's going on with all these

1288
01:52:07,17 --> 01:52:12,17
barriers are coming down from south for
tunable board the full distance and then

1289
01:52:12,18 --> 01:52:18,67
seeing all the traffic diverting through
the park. There was a great deal of alarm

1290
01:52:18,92 --> 01:52:22,20
a lot of the people there were going to be
in the parade were trying to get through

1291
01:52:22,21 --> 01:52:23,87
town and there is

1292
01:52:23,88 --> 01:52:30,02
a panic in their eyes. But we we helped

1293
01:52:30,02 --> 01:52:36,67
. Ease their anxiety level and what
they wanted was information they

1294
01:52:36,68 --> 01:52:40,63
wanted to know and be reassured that there
were an awful ing off the edge of the

1295
01:52:40,64 --> 01:52:44,29
Earth once they got into the
park and were trapped like

1296
01:52:44,30 --> 01:52:48,49
a ant lion heal. But
everybody made it there

1297
01:52:48,50 --> 01:52:53,12
a little bit frustrated when people get
excited sometimes they don't think about

1298
01:52:53,13 --> 01:52:59,68
what easiest remedy for being able to walk
fifty yards rather than having to drive

1299
01:52:59,69 --> 01:53:04,69
all the way through town. To go through
Carson woods road and then have to find

1300
01:53:04,70 --> 01:53:11,06
their way back it was a short duration of
inconvenience and hopefully they'll be

1301
01:53:11,07 --> 01:53:14,78
a little more effort to tell the public
two weeks ahead of time and then

1302
01:53:14,79 --> 01:53:16,87
a week and a half ahead of
time and then a week at

1303
01:53:16,88 --> 01:53:21,13
a time and use as much media coverage as
possible if they so choose to do another

1304
01:53:21,14 --> 01:53:22,85
run was fun to see

1305
01:53:22,86 --> 01:53:29,52
a lot of people out. As
for the parade I. Had the

1306
01:53:29,53 --> 01:53:36,02
opportunity with the native sons to be in
the first position carrying our our huge

1307
01:53:36,06 --> 01:53:37,82
American flag that was such

1308
01:53:37,83 --> 01:53:42,43
a wonderful honor and every single member
every single member of our native sons

1309
01:53:42,44 --> 01:53:48,50
group truly appreciated that gesture by
the rodeo satiation I just hope that that

1310
01:53:48,51 --> 01:53:54,84
we can have that kind of partnership and
have that every year. Main Street had

1311
01:53:54,85 --> 01:53:58,93
a lot of people but once you made to swing
the transition from Main Street to south

1312
01:53:58,94 --> 01:54:02,47
for tunable part it was people all
the way down the median It was

1313
01:54:02,48 --> 01:54:03,85
a huge I think there's probably

1314
01:54:03,86 --> 01:54:07,64
a little fifty percent more than last
year it was beautiful and everybody was

1315
01:54:07,65 --> 01:54:13,07
clapping and cheering and I was we were
done reaching the fire department and then

1316
01:54:13,42 --> 01:54:14,48
folding up the flag had

1317
01:54:14,49 --> 01:54:20,61
a chance to to watch the parade just one
for an hour and twenty minutes at least an

1318
01:54:20,62 --> 01:54:25,99
hour and twenty minutes. And I and I just
have to thank everybody in the community

1319
01:54:26,00 --> 01:54:30,54
for being part of it and it's just wonderful
that we have that kind of enthusiasm I

1320
01:54:30,55 --> 01:54:30,71
had

1321
01:54:30,72 --> 01:54:35,11
a chance to talk to an entrant that came
all the way from Garberville they'd heard

1322
01:54:35,12 --> 01:54:40,62
about our parade wanted to be in our
parade and they had a saloon motif on

1323
01:54:40,63 --> 01:54:45,07
a trailer and they got an award.
And I had a chance as it as

1324
01:54:45,08 --> 01:54:49,23
a elected official go up to talk to them
and think them in thank them and thank

1325
01:54:49,24 --> 01:54:52,38
them and and I hope that the public get

1326
01:54:52,39 --> 01:54:56,25
a chance to thank people as well just we
just need to keep this thing going as

1327
01:54:56,26 --> 01:55:01,81
a positive. That's it Mr Mayor God
bless America God bless all are troops

1328
01:55:01,81 --> 01:55:08,01
. Looking forward to the water
Ramma. Friday Saturday Sunday

1329
01:55:08,68 --> 01:55:11,30
they have crews nights Friday from

1330
01:55:11,31 --> 01:55:18,07
a six to eight. And that will be
another very very enthusiastic. Of

1331
01:55:18,08 --> 01:55:19,81
event that is without

1332
01:55:19,82 --> 01:55:26,09
a doubt the best. Fundraiser technically
fundraiser for investment in your

1333
01:55:26,10 --> 01:55:31,20
community of all that we do I'm not putting
down anybody else's event but high

1334
01:55:31,21 --> 01:55:35,65
quality people come and high quality
people want special things and they're not

1335
01:55:35,66 --> 01:55:38,54
getting the bottom of the well that we
really get in the top of the barrel and

1336
01:55:38,55 --> 01:55:43,58
we're providing it for him so come on out
everybody and be there ahead of the curve

1337
01:55:43,96 --> 01:55:47,98
beyond the median to be able to watch
everybody Branson show your car so thanks so

1338
01:55:47,99 --> 01:55:54,91
much Mr Mayor thank you. I attended the
redwood Coast Energy Commission meeting

1339
01:55:54,92 --> 01:55:59,83
today at three o'clock and. Got some
good programs going they've got

1340
01:55:59,84 --> 01:56:04,91
a contractor training program going right
now contractors can sign up and go to the

1341
01:56:04,92 --> 01:56:06,27
seminar for free and receive

1342
01:56:06,28 --> 01:56:12,75
a sort of occasion to install energy efficient
services for that you know community

1343
01:56:12,80 --> 01:56:16,66
presidents whoever is wanting it so
that's pretty good deal they got

1344
01:56:16,67 --> 01:56:18,98
a grant to cover that and they hired

1345
01:56:18,99 --> 01:56:25,41
a local arcade. Training I don't know what
you call it anyway at least they didn't

1346
01:56:25,52 --> 01:56:28,69
hire somebody from out of the area they're
using local people to do the training

1347
01:56:28,70 --> 01:56:35,64
which is nice. The big talk today was about
when projects and apparently shell wind

1348
01:56:35,65 --> 01:56:40,49
project is already got something
going on beverage and we met

1349
01:56:40,50 --> 01:56:43,87
a guy named Garrison Russo who
started humble but you know G.E.

1350
01:56:44,43 --> 01:56:48,85
And he is. Got a great business
plan and he talked about that

1351
01:56:48,86 --> 01:56:52,71
a little bit he's going to do an actual
Pres presentation I think next month out

1352
01:56:52,72 --> 01:56:59,44
the commission meeting and his goal is for
the most county to be the center of the

1353
01:56:59,45 --> 01:57:04,58
global wind energy industry and he's got
some contacts that are pretty amazing

1354
01:57:04,59 --> 01:57:09,63
already so. He's also hired some fortunate
people already he's higher precision

1355
01:57:09,87 --> 01:57:12,34
intermediary to help with
his web page Brian on

1356
01:57:12,35 --> 01:57:17,03
a virus is working on his. Engineering
and things like that so I was trying to

1357
01:57:17,04 --> 01:57:20,53
convince him that he wanted to do everything
in Fortuna but I'm not sure he went

1358
01:57:20,54 --> 01:57:27,47
for that but we can try and he's
talking about. Fairly quickly it

1359
01:57:27,48 --> 01:57:32,38
should create two hundred to five hundred
jobs so if this is real and this is you

1360
01:57:32,39 --> 01:57:33,99
know really does happen it could be

1361
01:57:34,00 --> 01:57:38,27
a huge boost for our economy here in
Humboldt County with the trickle down effect

1362
01:57:38,28 --> 01:57:42,45
even if they're based in Eureka trickle
down effect all the other cities so anyway

1363
01:57:42,46 --> 01:57:47,57
I'm hoping it's for real and if the
presentation next month is really good I would

1364
01:57:47,61 --> 01:57:50,86
maybe ask the council if they wanted him
to come here and and explain to him he was

1365
01:57:50,87 --> 01:57:56,97
very excited he's already got the Air
Force bases. On track with him he's got

1366
01:57:57,44 --> 01:58:02,85
contacts you know at Travis Air Force
Base and Edwards and. Let's they end with

1367
01:58:02,86 --> 01:58:08,54
that one. Yes Anyway so he already has I
mean the people that he named off that

1368
01:58:08,55 --> 01:58:10,73
he's already contacted that are
already on board it was pretty

1369
01:58:10,74 --> 01:58:13,23
a pretty impressive so hopefully it's

1370
01:58:13,24 --> 01:58:18,48
a real deal and it'll kind of boost our
economy here and there and I would just

1371
01:58:18,49 --> 01:58:22,45
like to welcome our new Chief build over
Stein and think him and my close Ian man

1372
01:58:22,46 --> 01:58:25,68
of her heart and all the other people who
worked on the retirement party for Chris

1373
01:58:25,69 --> 01:58:31,90
Kate and that was very good it was just
enough balance of. You know serious think

1374
01:58:31,91 --> 01:58:36,26
using humor and I just thought it was just
really well done so Thanks Mike for all

1375
01:58:36,27 --> 01:58:43,10
that work. The Redwood region

1376
01:58:43,11 --> 01:58:47,41
Economic Development Commission redact will
be meeting the twenty fifth so I've got

1377
01:58:47,42 --> 01:58:53,18
to decide whether I want to be in jail for
the. Redistricting meeting or at Reed

1378
01:58:53,19 --> 01:58:53,87
X.L.

1379
01:58:53,95 --> 01:58:58,41
I'll have to figure that out I also took
part in my family and I also took part in

1380
01:58:58,42 --> 01:59:03,51
many of the events over rodeo week it
was fantastic the turnout was was just

1381
01:59:03,72 --> 01:59:05,00
amazing on

1382
01:59:05,01 --> 01:59:11,85
a Friday night at the quad evaders the I
had over forty three hundred painting

1383
01:59:11,89 --> 01:59:16,18
attendees and I know I stand at least half
of those hands coming through that gate

1384
01:59:17,18 --> 01:59:21,33
I'm sure my wife sold tickets
to the other half so it was

1385
01:59:21,34 --> 01:59:26,98
a great event I've never seen so many people
jammed into the rodeo grounds as it is

1386
01:59:26,99 --> 01:59:32,30
this particular night. Great events all
the way through and is Dena's pointed out

1387
01:59:32,61 --> 01:59:37,59
we've got out of the Expo coming up Friday
night is the crew so everybody plan on

1388
01:59:37,60 --> 01:59:43,50
being there Thursday two o'clock this is
this Thursday here in the council chambers

1389
01:59:43,51 --> 01:59:44,22
will be

1390
01:59:44,80 --> 01:59:51,74
a promotional celebration or.
Program for promoting chief to

1391
01:59:51,75 --> 01:59:56,24
build Oberstein he's already the chief but
this is going to be the program for them

1392
01:59:56,28 --> 02:00:01,97
the celebrations. If you can I'm sure
everybody would appreciate your attendance

1393
02:00:01,98 --> 02:00:08,42
here. And through other promotions also
within the police department as well so

1394
02:00:08,42 --> 02:00:15,19
. It's. OK And yes

1395
02:00:15,20 --> 02:00:18,80
Mr Mayor there is last Thursday
the fourteenth received

1396
02:00:18,81 --> 02:00:23,47
a communication from laughable step that
our July meeting has been cancelled due to

1397
02:00:23,48 --> 02:00:27,27
lack of business side
and so I will not have

1398
02:00:27,40 --> 02:00:33,63
a report for July next Gadgil meeting
in September twenty first thank you.

1399
02:00:36,11 --> 02:00:39,48
I scheduled committees and I'm on the H.

1400
02:00:39,49 --> 02:00:45,81
Car gears not until next week on Thursday
the twenty eighth and this will come in

1401
02:00:45,82 --> 02:00:46,47
when today is

1402
02:00:46,48 --> 02:00:50,35
a Historical Commission meeting so I don't
have any meetings to report on there is

1403
02:00:50,36 --> 02:00:55,51
a meeting coming up in Arcadia the redwood
Empire League of Cities is that that's

1404
02:00:55,52 --> 02:01:00,95
on the twenty ninth so we are we I'll look
into that and see I don't have the times

1405
02:01:00,96 --> 02:01:06,94
or dates how good. I'll find that all I'm
going to email to you guys because it's

1406
02:01:06,95 --> 02:01:07,89
going to be an arcade

1407
02:01:07,90 --> 02:01:12,83
a delight Yeah yeah yeah and it's going to
be an arcade and usually they bounce all

1408
02:01:12,84 --> 02:01:19,08
over them. Usually a
day and then they have

1409
02:01:19,09 --> 02:01:24,20
a dinner after the meeting two o'clock and
I get that in make sure I get the new

1410
02:01:24,20 --> 02:01:31,14
. Rodeo everybody's talked about how great
it was I had the opportunity this year

1411
02:01:31,25 --> 02:01:37,98
to. The kidnapped tourists
they came to the Rodeo

1412
02:01:38,76 --> 02:01:43,51
which was quite exciting
we have. We have converted

1413
02:01:43,52 --> 02:01:47,87
a couple hundred in Beach residents to the
point that they're thinking of moving

1414
02:01:47,88 --> 02:01:54,87
here they have extended their vacation
there in town today and. Really like as

1415
02:01:54,88 --> 02:01:56,23
we as

1416
02:01:56,24 --> 02:02:02,97
a city made him very welcome. They had
the most beautiful big. Dog That was the

1417
02:02:02,98 --> 02:02:08,30
best behaved dog and as mayor I got to
babysit it during the next year or so they

1418
02:02:08,31 --> 02:02:11,99
were impressed with their babysitter
dog ready that's what put in

1419
02:02:12,00 --> 02:02:17,04
a marriage do you know that's. And then you
do what you have to do what you have to

1420
02:02:17,05 --> 02:02:23,24
do. Then coming up we've talked I've
touched on now the expo and that is

1421
02:02:23,25 --> 02:02:26,06
a fantastic program for town and there's

1422
02:02:26,07 --> 02:02:30,75
a lot of things happening and I know
Saturday's the big day when we get the pick I

1423
02:02:30,76 --> 02:02:34,40
Get It was married to pick one of
the cars. But if you don't get

1424
02:02:34,41 --> 02:02:38,16
a chance to come down on Saturday and see
all those cars Sunday morning at nine

1425
02:02:38,17 --> 02:02:43,82
o'clock in the park although number one
cars will drive through and pick up their

1426
02:02:43,83 --> 02:02:48,89
awards you want to see the cream of the
crop Sunday morning in the park. And then

1427
02:02:48,90 --> 02:02:53,74
I'd like to end with the words of Frank
hisor who is the president of the auto

1428
02:02:53,75 --> 02:02:58,68
exploited he wants to welcome everyone
to the twenty first Fortuna Redwood Auto

1429
02:02:58,69 --> 02:03:04,51
Expo weekend and he says Fortuna is known
as the friendly city so be sure to do

1430
02:03:04,52 --> 02:03:09,59
your part your share by putting on your
happy face and see if you can make twenty

1431
02:03:09,60 --> 02:03:14,60
new friends this year and your your staff
drive careful and be courteous to your

1432
02:03:14,61 --> 02:03:20,37
neighbors and that that's what makes Auto
Expo man auto and the rodeo exciting is

1433
02:03:20,38 --> 02:03:24,99
that's how people feel about fourteen and
we all have to take part in that. So

1434
02:03:25,00 --> 02:03:32,00
that's the end of my
report. Now we go into.

1435
02:03:32,00 --> 02:03:37,24
Or report or comments from the public on
the close session items that we haven't

1436
02:03:37,32 --> 02:03:42,24
haven't come in members of the public may
be heard on any item under the close

1437
02:03:42,25 --> 02:03:46,80
session speakers address the Council or the
board will be limited to three minutes

1438
02:03:46,81 --> 02:03:51,70
perspicuous be advised that by law
neither the council nor or he's able to

1439
02:03:51,71 --> 02:03:57,54
deliberate or or take actions on issues
presented during the oral comment period we

1440
02:03:57,55 --> 02:04:00,53
have two items that people
can comment on one is

1441
02:04:00,54 --> 02:04:07,32
a closed session conference of labor
negotiation city negotiator city manager

1442
02:04:07,33 --> 02:04:13,65
doing really Employees Association.
Fortuna Employees Association

1443
02:04:14,26 --> 02:04:18,85
fourteen the police department employees
association and therefore to the office

1444
02:04:18,86 --> 02:04:23,76
employees association accordance with
Section five four nine five seven point six

1445
02:04:24,56 --> 02:04:27,59
of the government code the second item is

1446
02:04:27,60 --> 02:04:32,51
a closed session to discuss public employees
performance evaluation according with

1447
02:04:32,52 --> 02:04:38,44
Section five four nine five six seven the
Government Code Title city manager and I

1448
02:04:38,45 --> 02:04:38,82
might make

1449
02:04:38,83 --> 02:04:42,57
a comment at this time what we're going
to discuss in that time has nothing to do

1450
02:04:42,58 --> 02:04:47,81
with the citizens' complaint that was
presented to us tonight so if anyone from the

1451
02:04:47,82 --> 02:04:50,74
public like to make any comments
people we want to close session

1452
02:04:50,74 --> 02:04:59,32
.

1453
02:05:00,14 --> 02:05:06,53
Yes My question is do you
plan on reviewing. The city

1454
02:05:06,54 --> 02:05:12,53
managers. Performance without
allowing any input from the public

1455
02:05:14,09 --> 02:05:20,22
on this particular item tonight
in general on his or on his. You

1456
02:05:21,04 --> 02:05:27,29
allow any any comments from the public
regarding. This city managers performance

1457
02:05:27,79 --> 02:05:33,18
I just point were we're not going to take
any I understand that but I in the future

1458
02:05:33,19 --> 02:05:36,32
I don't know we have a report here
that was given to us tonight which has

1459
02:05:36,33 --> 02:05:40,39
a lot of public input into it so we'll
but you can't discuss that and we can't

1460
02:05:40,40 --> 02:05:46,77
discuss that one tonight so we will cross
that bridge when that item comes up that

1461
02:05:46,78 --> 02:05:53,19
you're doing the evaluation no question
is my general in general are you planning

1462
02:05:53,20 --> 02:06:00,05
to or have you discussed allowing public
input on the city managers performance

1463
02:06:01,21 --> 02:06:03,98
you know we have.

1464
02:06:07,92 --> 02:06:14,64
Anybody else I would like to. Make any
comments just like that can happen any time

1465
02:06:14,65 --> 02:06:19,22
just by what you just did which is to get
up and talk to us about what your comment

1466
02:06:19,23 --> 02:06:23,68
it or comment.

1467
02:06:27,28 --> 02:06:33,45
Did that I gave you complete. I offered
to give you more information which I did

1468
02:06:34,12 --> 02:06:40,10
and you said please do that and we will
look at it and I did that in then I saw

1469
02:06:40,11 --> 02:06:44,83
that I could also provide supporting
documentation and you asked me to do that and

1470
02:06:44,84 --> 02:06:51,54
I did that and I provided that highlighted
it is two hundred fifty pages

1471
02:06:51,58 --> 02:06:56,02
however I'm ninety percent of those
pages there was one or two sentences

1472
02:06:56,06 --> 02:07:02,30
highlighted so I'm sorry that you found
that onerous and believe me when I I

1473
02:07:02,31 --> 02:07:05,20
especially apologize if you received

1474
02:07:05,21 --> 02:07:11,09
a copy of that without the highlights I
know they don't copy but if I had been told

1475
02:07:11,10 --> 02:07:11,87
that you were going to receive

1476
02:07:11,88 --> 02:07:15,76
a copy then I certainly would have provided
you with highlighted copies so it would

1477
02:07:15,77 --> 02:07:19,18
not have been so on the wrist if you had
to look at I don't know what you received

1478
02:07:20,63 --> 02:07:27,43
thank you thank you well I I just I
want to make I want to. But I'm sorry I

1479
02:07:27,44 --> 02:07:34,44
got off track what I really want to
say is that now you have set this the

1480
02:07:34,45 --> 02:07:38,62
acceptance of the report I believe for your
next meeting and I will be happy to him

1481
02:07:40,89 --> 02:07:46,09
I want to make it real clear everybody got
the same thing so when when MS Agar says

1482
02:07:46,10 --> 02:07:51,28
she doesn't know what you got I want to
assure everybody everybody got the exact

1483
02:07:51,29 --> 02:07:57,63
same thing playing her including her where
they highlighted how they were not know

1484
02:07:57,64 --> 02:08:04,47
how they were now for years how like.
I got it out here so we're all clear

1485
02:08:05,06 --> 02:08:11,30
but what the clerk is saying is like she
highlighted what what Ms Agar gave the

1486
02:08:11,31 --> 02:08:18,17
city and that's true. I made copies
of of the highlighted. Version

1487
02:08:18,56 --> 02:08:22,98
and you're right the yellow highlighting
does not show up when Kinko's made the

1488
02:08:22,99 --> 02:08:27,74
copies so what you submitted
was highlighted the clerk made

1489
02:08:27,78 --> 02:08:34,74
a highlighted copy for me and when I took
it to be printed and bound you all didn't

1490
02:08:34,75 --> 02:08:39,61
get the highlight nor did the manager nor
did you in your copy of the report but

1491
02:08:39,62 --> 02:08:44,99
I'd like to apologize I didn't think about
it not copying I submitted to you so you

1492
02:08:45,05 --> 02:08:49,35
you after the meeting came to me and said
if there is something I wanted to submit

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to submit it to you and I submitted it to
you think the city if I had realized that

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they had to make

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a copy of it and they in you had informed
me that the highlights in copy I would

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have provided two copies or I would have
cherry change the highlighting so it

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copied and if I had known that this city
council was going to see the copy of it

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the same thing would have happened
and I apologize that you received

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a two hundred fifty page document in which
ninety percent of it was useless thank

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you the reason I did it that way though
was so that the information was complete

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and there is no question about the where
it was taken from thank you in the context

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. Thank you. It all. Of

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a comma after use and any other any
other public comment. Has been moved to

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close public comment all in favor
signify by saying I I. Too close or

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. A. Good second has been so good it will
be during the procession of every signify

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by saying I have a right.