Welcome to our Monday night like show here at Messina post hospital for free
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a short answer the questions they have so Gerri thank you very much for coming
today oh thank you for having me. Immunizations in your health there are
many things which help our health as we look through life there's prescriptions
there's actually nutrition. Exercise but there is one area
where we often don't think of being immunized when I grew up we all
got immunizations as children in some instances that is not been carried out in
the present day and I think some of the information that up present will show you
that we should seriously consider getting
a better area on immunizations So what is immunization and your health well what is
an immunization an immunization is the treatment of a person to create
a condition of being able to resist that particular disease through preventing the
development of
a pathogenic or going to microorganism or counteracting the effects of the
organisms by products this treatment makes a person and noon to
a subsequent attack by a particular pathogen Now what is a vaccination
a vaccination is the introduction of microorganisms that have been previously
treated to make them harmless for the purpose of inducing the development of
immunity vaccination. Vaccines are
nonpathogenic substances containing at the Jinns that stimulate immune response
they provide protection against disease without causing the disease themselves
there classify The There is alive or attenuated or inactivated and both will lead
to
a positive immune response. Now vaccines successes have led to disease prevention
and
a number of areas the most significant success has been the elimination of smallpox
in the world and presently there are
a number of organizations including low rotary working towards the adding
polio to that list other diseases have about him and eliminated from the United
States and other developed countries which are still available in undeveloped
countries and the development of new vaccines is
a definite goal of the health care industry now what are some of our successes you
can see here
a list of diseases diphtheria the peak in one nine hundred thirty eight of over
thirty thousand cases the latest data I have is from two thousand and seven and
there were no diptheria cases in that year measles is has dropped from over seven
hundred fifty thousand which peaked in one nine hundred fifty eight to less than
about thirty cases recently moms from
a little over two hundred thousand peaking in sixty four to about seven fifteen
pertussis which is hooping cough from
a little over two hundred fifty thousand and one hundred thirty four to eight
thousand cases this is when we'll talk about a little later which is
a problem present very affecting our nation especially in the state of California.
Polio which many people think of being really high you see here really only in
twenty one thousand cases in its peak year of one hundred fifty two we're down to
zero with this staying rubella half
a million cases almost in the sixty four sixty five down to eleven tetanus we often
hear of it only six hundred one cases we still had twenty and two thousand and
seven and smallpox which peaked in the twenty's that on hundred little over one
hundred thousand is down to zero so you can see in many cases we've had successes
in using vaccination and immunization against some very severe diseases nearly
fifty thousand U.S.
Adults die each year from vaccine preventable diseases and that's really something
we have to look at influenza pneumococcal disease out of the eight leading cause of
death in the United States both can be prevented by vaccination hepatitis
B. Is
a major cause of disease in the United States but only Twan ten to twenty percent
of the highest risk adults have been vaccinated again an area that could use
improvement and only ten percent of the women have received vaccinations from human
papilloma virus which causes cervical cancer and one in three people will
develop her B zoster which has the common name of shingles in their lifetime if
they have had chicken pox and many elderly people have not been
vaccinated. That's the nation rates in adult influenza. Forty
two percent rate influenza in people over the age of sixty five is
a little better it's almost sixty nine percent pneumococcal pneumonia sixty five
percent tetanus seventy five hundred fifty seven percent you should get
a tetanus shot about every ten years and zoster shingles wish I told you was
not heavily used you can see it less than two percent of the people who are pro ten
Joe can the dates for shingles have been an ocular rated for the virus.
Misconceptions about vaccines that these diseases were disappearing before vaccines
there's no indication that in our lifetime diseases Gesta Limon eight themselves in
fact we constantly are getting new ones some people think there's no need to
continue vaccinating I mean this is one of the things that while we've pretty much
eliminated measles and other diseases in kids that's because you
know everybody was vaccinated at one time for them now people aren't If your
child has not been vaccinated for me is old and somebody from
a foreign country which does not have not eliminated these old enters the United
States they can cause
a pandemic in the area of measles and that vaccines cause harmful effects they
don't allow most vaccines are attenuated in such
a way that they themselves do not cause the diseases that they prevent and that
multiple vaccines overload the immune system totally
a misconception when I started my work and the pharmacy I had to
get vaccinated and I got four vaccinations the same day. And absolutely didn't even
have a sore arm so that's not
a problem vaccine preventable diseases vaccines protect patients
against numerous diseases because they contain antigens and evoke an immune
response resulting in an immunological memory and this the patient protects the
patient from getting the disease now what I've done is I've put together
a number of slides listing the diseases that can be prevented by vaccines. The
first one is influenza many of us are familiar this is the common flu it affects
patients of all ages and new strains of virus are common every year there are
different viruses that cause this particular program during
a pandemic the disease spreads quickly and mortality is usually significant
examples of the pandemic flu occurrences in the United States we had the Spanish
flu flu right after World War one one thousand eight hundred ninety cause over six
hundred seventy five thousand deaths in the United States Asian Flu more recently
in the late fifty's seventy thousand deaths on Kong flu in the late sixty's thirty
four thousand swine flu and H one N one flu which are the most recent ones we do
not have the death dated available at this time influenza.
Again effective prevention by an annual vaccination and this in this particular
case it does require an annual vaccination and there is no long term effect and
two hundred thousand individuals are hospitalized annually leading to more than
thirty thousand deaths these deaths again can be prevented by vaccination the
make up of the annual flu vaccine varies based on the type of viruses that are most
likely to cause an outbreak this is obviously something that the disease center
does take
a few guesses that because they have to figure out what viruses are going to be
infecting us and then they develop the vaccine accordingly. The vaccine is
an inactivated flu vaccine it can not cause flu itself one dose is what you need
annually and the flu season usually runs for December through March in the United
States this year there are actually. Two levels of flu lack seems which were made
available to the public eye was
a regular dose for people under the age of sixty five and there was a
a next century weighted dose for people over sixty five as you age your immune
system may not respond as quickly or as actively as
a younger person's So the idea was to create a vaccine that had
a little more to it to give you the protection pneumococcal
disease which is known you know it exists the year round in most common in winter
and spring one hundred seventy five thousand patients are hospitalized annually and
it can result in pneumococcal meningitis leading to an eighty percent death rate in
elderly patients I'm sure many of you in the audience know of an elderly person
contracting the ammonia who ended up dying if that person possibly had been given
a memo knew
a shot when they were feeling better before they were hit by pneumonia this could
have been prevented drug resistant strains have increased therefore prevents and by
vaccinations becomes important many of the bugs that create
pneumonia do know no longer respond to the normal antibiotic
therapy that is available because they have developed immune immune
immunity to those particular diseases particular drugs so patients especially the
elderly should see receive a dose and this you only need
a dose every five years so whereas flu vaccine is an annual event if you get
a pneumonia shot it will last for five years. Tetanus to Syria and
Per tussock the reason I lump them together is because when you get the shot
they're all in one shot tetanus often call lockjaw the majority of cases result
from injuries occurring indoors and at home most of them from things that home the
disease results in severe muscle spasm and it's fatal and ten percent of the
reported cases diptheria generally this disease affects the pharynx and tonsils but
can lead to my own car died as
a neuritis the overall death rate is ten percent and the last one in this one is
pertussis which the common name is hoping cough now hoping cough is extremely
contagious that affects all ages and is expect easily transmitted to children by
their family and family adult population what has happened recently because of the
epidemic in the state of California is parents and grandparents should be
vaccinated in the pharmacy vive vaccinated many grandparents who were
encouraged or almost ordered by their children to get vaccinations before they
would actually babysit their grandkids because they were potential carriers and
adults don't suffer the same severity that children do and it can cause
death in the very young so if you're
a grandparent and visiting you know young children you should get
a shot and on this one you need
a booster shot every ten years for everyone over eleven years old when I said this
shot would have all of the D.P.T.
Not just the pertussis and those again you should try to figure out when you got
your last shot and if it's been more than ten years you should get another shot
these first three shots that I mention. Which are the flu
and the pneumonia and the D.P.T.
Can all be up tamed through your local pharmacy most pharmacists do is offer that
service then we have the varicella which is chicken pox in the
young and shingles in the old and basically this is
a relatively new vaccine most of us in this room probably over the age of
forty had chicken pox. Maybe over the age of thirty had chicken pox Well if you
add chicken pox you are
a candidate for shingles one in three people who had chicken pox as
a youngster are candidates for shingles shingles is not
a very nice condition it is extremely painful and it can lead as I mentioned on the
bottom here to post to Patrick NO around which is
a chronic pain condition which is really not treatable in any sense
except locally and it could last the rest of your life and is not
very pleasant condition so again for children they should be vaccinated for
shipment chicken pox every adult over the age of sixty always had chicken pox
should be vaccinated for shingle. Now we have the human papilloma virus.
Vaccination and this particular disease is
a commonly used sexually transmitted disease that is over six million new cases
annually It isn't even
a logical agent for cervical cancer genital warts and other diseases such as Volver
and Badger no cancer so it prevents some very serious conditions not that everybody
who gets the human papillomavirus is going to get those cancers the vaccination
will reduce the possibilities of these cancers and fifty percent of sexually active
individuals will get their H.P.V.
In their lifetime and vaccination should be given especially to all females nine to
twenty six years old it will not cure or an existing condition and in most cases
vaccines cannot be used to. Treat an existing infection
hepatitis A people most at risk of star international travel travelers men who have
sex with men and users of illegal drugs it is spread by
a FICO oral route and contaminated food and water travelers should receive
a dose of the vaccine at least two weeks before they travel travelers to Canada
Western Europe Japan Rosie and Australia generally do not need to be immunized but
if you're going to any third ward country it's a good idea to get
a happened to Titus
a shock these also can be obtained at your local pharmacy. Hepatitis
B. This is
a blood borne pathogen commonly transmitted by exposure to affected blood and body
fluids and asymptomatic patients can infect other people so you might not have it
but you can pass that on to other people the end cute illness also involves jaw
a jaundiced that is especially
a problem instead instance supporting data that indicated birth doses are
recommended Obviously when we're talking about dosing to very young children this
is something that probably would be done A either at the hospital or at
a pediatrician's office is not something that the average pharmacy is set up to do
and it is the second known cause of cancer after tobacco use which is something I
imagine most of you are don't realize and everybody dealing with blood and body
fluids including sexual contact should be vaccinated obviously if you're giving
vaccinations specially when I took my training to give vaccinations I did get
a habitat is be shot because what it does it's text me if I come in contact
with body fluids such as blood joining
a vaccination of and different out of another individual. Measles mumps and rubella
probably again this is something specially on the measles mumps
a good percentage of the people. Forty and over probably had that as
a child rebel also was very common at that time measles was always
considered one of the most contagious diseases known to humans and some people
consider it
a very minor thing but it can cause diarrhea outside as media pneumonia and
in some cases it leads and sefl itis and death moments inflammation
of the parotid gland and also has complications of meningitis testicular
inflammation and deafness there's some cases where moms can make
a. Sterile So it again is something that should be handled
on
a younger basis rebell A causes makyo popular rash that's redness complications
are abortion fetal bethen premature delivery this is obviously especially true in
women of childbearing age they should be vaccinated for rubella.
So and should really the recommendation is vaccinate all children greater than
twelve months and women before pregnancy. Menage in June and then Ginger up
go this is ease the leading cause of bacterial meningitis in children and young
adults and again here despite antibiotic therapy were often running into
bugs which are immune to the antibiotic we've got
a death rate of nine to twelve percent and up to forty percent of the bacteria
actually enter the bloodstream and can cause hearing loss in their logical damage
target vaccination groups that are adults eleven to eighteen college freshman
living in dormitories Maybe it's because of close to living military personnel and
travelers to third world countries which many of us probably. Do take in our
time of vacations he'll feel a sense of the ones that type B.
This can cause significant morbidity and mortality in children under five and is
a leading cause of bacterial meningitis and it's age group again here is
a particular vaccination that has to be done early in life and the target audience
is all infants. And is not generally given to children aged five or older so this
is definitely something given very early in life. Poliomyelitis which
is
a well known disease many of his grew up in areas where we were actually quarantined
in the summers of the fifty's because of the spread of polio polio destroys
the anterior horn cells of the spinal cord leading to flacid paralysis
Interestingly only about one percent of polio infections actually result in severe
paralytic disease it is going to eradicate it in most of the world by
a horrible oral vaccine which was licensed in one thousand nine hundred sixty three
. And vaccination is recommended for all children starting at two months and there
is
a schedule that you do and you continue it until they're four to six years old routine
vaccination of adults is generally not recommended So again this isn't an
interesting thing that should be done earlier again most polio my lightest
vaccinations are not done in pharmacies. Rotavirus is the most common cause
a severe gastro intertie it is an infants and children usually between six and
twenty four months interestingly enough prior to taking my course in
vaccinations I didn't draw this linkage but when my second son was
born he ended up with
a severe diarrhea and that up having to go into the hospital and was there for
quite some time. He had lost so much body water that if you pushed on his
skin it would actually leave
a hole in the skin so severe diarrhea dehydration electrolyte
imbalance and if you don't catch it in time can can cause death the disease result
in more than five hundred thousand childhood deaths in the developing countries.
We happen to control it
a little better in this country but you know you're rolling your dice it's another
disease where VNS infant should be vaccinated for it. Rabies
transmitted to humans from the bite of an infected animal usually it's from
a dog or domestic dog or cat but it can be if you get involved with the
skunk sir raccoons or something who are in fact that and it indicates that it's the
only vaccine that may be overused and why do I say that well. What happens is if
you get bit and you report this it seems that you will be treated as if you
really did get rabies especially if they can't get the animal and test the animal
for rabies they figure that even though the rabies shots are not
a very pleasant thing they're much less of
a hazard than the death that comes of the result of not treating the disease so
again the recommendations post-exposure prophylaxis should include prompt cleaning
of the won't followed by the administration of both the rabies vaccine and rabies
immune god god god be around and you should be referred to experts in the field of
rabies. Now if you travel internationally there's
a couple of other diseases which you can probably probably prevent by getting
vaccinated yellow fever which is transmitted by an infected mosquito typhoid fever
which is
a food and water borne disease and Japanese encephalitis which is also mosquito
borne viral Demick and these vaccines should be taken when
traveling into the area where these diseases are prevalent and you can check with
the C.D.C.
To find out if an area you are going to could possibly have these diseases
you might say well how come malaria isn't there well there is no vaccine for
malaria. So what should do with the traveling in that area there are actually oral
medications that you can take as
a mare malarial preventive but there is no vaccine at this time. Now there are such
things as bioterrorism agents and while these agents that cause smallpox and
anthrax are not readily available and the diseases they have been basically
eliminated from the world that that remains that the agents causing these diseases
could be used by terrorists you remember
a number of years ago there was the anthrax which was being sent through the mail
to various people. And there are stories of
smallpox vaccines available. Under guard but you know
that they have a this could fall into the hands of
a terrorist and since. Smallpox vaccination is
not as prevalent then a more. Most of you over fifty have
a little ring on your arm which is done by smallpox maybe even if you're younger
than that but I understand that in many cases it's not vaccinate against because of
those of the it's it's over with but again it could come back of something happened
with
a bioterrorist problem so what's the conclusion vaccines that been successful in
preventing
a broad range of infectious diseases but we're armed with both the knowledge and
availability of these vaccines it is now ever your responsibility as citizens to
put this knowledge to use and to prevent these prevent diseases not only for
yourself but for your family members and how can you help you can talk to your
doctor and or pharmacist about the vaccine that can help you you can take the
responsibility to educate yourself and other family members about the advantages of
immunization and do not assume that you and your family members are immune to
attack by viruses that cause the disease you should be safe and not sorry now one
of the things that is come up in Reese. And yours there is
a product called Siloam aerosol which was used as a. In the X.
Eans to just stabilize them and there was
a major publication on Thio merits all leading to autism
the physician in England who authored that particular information has
been proven to be
a charlatan and the information of Thio Maris all
leading to major problems in autism there is no linkage there is actually very
little linkage between vaccines and other problems if
you feel you know that you are alert if you are allergic to eggs you should not get
a flu shot because the flu vaccine is actually developed and grown
on an AIG So there are some things that you should watch when you're using vaccines
but in general they're very safe. I've been giving vaccinations at the
pharmacy I work at. And have had very little if
any reaction to any of the vaccines I give which have been primarily flu
pneumonia D.P.T.
And shingles so shingles in some cases can cause you
to have a sore arm I remember I got
a typhoid shot early on when I was traveling that caused the sore arm but you know
that particular situation lasts for
a couple of days and then goes away so my recommendation is to make sure that you
understand the benefits of vaccination and immunization and that it
definitely can improve and keep you healthy thank you.
Hi Nancy question OK. So we're asking is it as you
say it's not. Says he's twenty five years old. She now if
it's too late which she did to him in nice Well again as I mentioned you don't just
get up her tosses shocked you get a D.P.T.
If he half if he hasn't had the whole range she should definitely get that
so that. Or he only had different areas attack us here and once. It's
OK to err on the. Protests.
That as
a twenty five year old he himself the symptoms would be like an extreme
cold or something like that the term whooping cough was given its name
because young people have their throats constricted when this
disease hits and so there. And it sounds like you know hooping.
Adults year of oak or neck or stronger it doesn't constrict as much so you
think you might just have the flu but you actually do after hoping cough now what's
the negative the negative if it is twenty five year old comes in contact with his
four year old in the fairway he can pass this disease on which is
much more fatal to anyone under the age of five than it is to people who are adults
so the word to her. Tracks the disease he's going to be more
risk to the young people in the eyes. These are all children he's twenty six twenty
children in why can't that he's he could yes that's right it's that's more advice
because he's not going to the chances of an adult of dying from pertussis or
helping cough are minimal. So there's I mean you can't be dense on your whole
immune system and how it reacts to it but even he has a well developed
a new system he's just going to be sick and then he'll get over it but he can pass
this on to somebody else and like I said there's no reason that he just shouldn't
get all three of them and boost up his tetanus shot again Syria is as I said it
showed there's no cases and that's their area Tetanus is still prevalent and
a possibility and obviously hooping cough right now isn't Demick and California.
About that and then in Chicago that you know this is one where the kids are going
to college yeah and then basically I think you know I the information I got was
that this was
a group which you know should be vaccinated I think it's because they do lots of
things together and. Yeah they share things and
therefore therefore you know what you're doing is it's easily the past things on
that also becomes in the sexually prevalent diseases in our society today is
much more sexually active. And I think you know the problem of passing
on diseases which are potentially sex so you transmitted it is greater and if there
is a possibility of again using
a vaccine which will reduce the effects of the transmission or not is
a fact of transmission but make you a human to
a disease which can be transmitted that way that you should take care of it. The
cost to the. Country and medical expenses and treating the
disease is is much greater than the cost of preventing them through vaccination So
how long is sex even out. Now that I had it out about ten years how long it is I
mean I'm not sure you know I getting vaccines as I said is always something that is
coming out the. You know the shingles vaccine is less than ten years old
probably And there's
a number of other ones that are fairly recent. Yes right. Right recent
Yeah so they're constantly doing this. But you know I have many of the ones I don't
think you know when my kids were little I wasn't told anything about the rotavirus
that I should get
a shot and I think you know looking at it now that's what my son had now
again. I think when I grow up and maybe when my kids even grow up which is there
and they're in their late forty's early sixty's. It was it was much more common to
have your children in the care later on
a regular basis for whatever was available and you know like I said they they said
you know even polio is only been around for about forty years polio vaccines that
when they've been around for about forty years so prior to that you know you always
had
a chance I grew up in Milwaukee and in the summer of something like fifty five
or something I got I was the whole city and walking was put under warranty but
when you show this is never in the outbreak and the case is relatively look here it
is something like measles month Right right but it was
a more dramatic I mean because I said people say oh mean those that's your
Everybody gets measles there's nothing serious about measles but you get polio you
get paralyzed. You know I mean so there's
a difference and so I did and nothing to do with numbers that had to do with the
fear of getting the disease so yeah there are only like you said the data so that
the highest number in the late fifty's was like four or you know what was it twenty
one thousand or something like that for polio and the half million for measles Well
you know I said maybe those Everybody gets measles but you don't want to get polio
they don't understand like measles can affect the heart and there can be people
later on will get heart murmurs and heart problems and it can trace it back to
having measles when they were
a child. And they're not out and you know and there was no
me the vaccine when I grew up you know so I mean I got results I got chicken pox I
got hooping cough I didn't get hooping cough I got I did get moments. I didn't
question I had heard a lot of controversy and controversy about the H.P.V.
Itself and there are parents the C.D.C.
See if you go to the C.D.C.
Web site which is down in Atlanta they have
outstanding information on every vaccine related disease
so that that's probably your best source and you know you know years ago you had to
find why words had written up but now it's not on your computer screen. So you can
find out more about it than you'd ever want to learn.
Scottish Yeah well yeah scarlet fever is not again is can't be treated with
a vaccine it's just like I mentioned you know with the malaria so you know if it
isn't part of this they get Think I guess I had scarlet fever when I was about five
and I was treated almost like polio I was put into an isolation ward at
a hospital to overcome scarlet fever my daughter had scarlet fever and we just
treated her at home she was she was losing her skin on her fingers I mean my wife
would you know what point man on her fingers and put cause the gloves on their
fingers and it was it does not apply them but she overcame it but that again has
other effects it is cardiovascular effects that you can have.
I've got. An abnormal heartbeat Maybe it's the result of the scarlet fever I had
when I was five so far had an effect with me in any other way but you never know.
Different people react to you know not only are you no diseases because of your own
body your own body is the the best thing to protect you all you're doing when
you're doing vaccines is you're giving your body. An additional little help to
overcome that your body will develop you know that's what happens your body
develops
a vaccine itself if you want to look at it. If you get this disease but
it also has other negative side effects what happens is when you use
a vaccine. The same item or.
Cause the body to recognize that there's this foreign body but the foreign body
will not cause the disease it just causes the body to develop the immunity to the
disease Well many people who get a disease don't get
a second time because they develop an immunity to it but it's much easier to take
a shot than get the disease which could cause you many more problems and kind of
wondering about the seriousness you mentioned that he mentioned that affected the
tonsils and all the cases that people in certain. Console I guess
like to me you know hear that anymore is that you it's possible that many of the
cases where exactly they had well that were already had was that all the SO but
also the development. Of tonsilitis is the tonsils were sort of
a reservoir which the body used to fight off infections. And
now if you start to get an infection then you're going to
a physician who treats you with an antibiotic which then prevents the disease from
centralizing. And causing the tonsils to
expand you don't have any time so yeah I had my tonsils out when I was
a lad and I'm going to appendix Yeah I have my appendix out also when I was young.
Yeah. But I think nowadays with antibiotic therapy we end never
getting to
a severe tonsillitis and having to remove the tonsils I mean the tonsils actually
help fight off disease but it's OK are there for you and. Oh well just one
other thing I grabbed this out of the chain store pharmacy news which sort of
indicated. Vaccine the top vaccines.
Account for over five billion dollars in sales right now. So this is
a fairly large and profitable area that the pharmaceutical companies you know there
are sometimes when things don't get developed you know and one of the reasons is
there doesn't seem to be
a profit motive are our country's very motivated by profits and so vaccines
because it takes
a long time to develop them and they are protected they do turn out to be something
worthwhile which then means that the industry will strive to bring out more and
more vaccines if it can. See right how many
seniors. They asked last.
Year we liked Right right. Right
and in the morning and all other people it's because as you age your immune system
does not work as well and therefore what you're doing by getting the vaccination
is you're helping your immune system respond quicker and better to control the
disease so. It's. By just.
Checking for that you pleading. For Yeah yeah. Yeah but it still is an option I
mean you know I work in the pharmacy and I talk to people and somebody comes in who
are getting an animal out of I got the flu I said you get
a flu shot now I should have gotten a flu shot but I did maybe next year I'll get
a flu shot and I says you know this was like say in January and I says get
a flu shot now you might you know for
a second time different bug you know. Something like that so talk to somebody
will complain now. Shingles vaccines are quite expensive many. Don't pay for
so they can be. At prices around two hundred fifteen dollars. Gentleman in my
Rotary Club had
a shot it was sort of like complaining to me about the cause but he also mentioned
that his father had gotten
a shingle I said Would your father pay two hundred fifteen dollars after you got
the shingles to get rid of the shingles then he said Ste very much paid the
two hundred self so it's it's like buying insurance and the nice thing about
shingles insurance you only pay for it once and you don't have to worry about your
premiums going up. There now yes we
are. Seeing that you get
like shingles can you get very sick now Heidi not now I had
a shingle shies. Probably about six weeks ago and I had
a sorrow for two days because you know right here right where the shock was when
that study Yeah. Yeah that's the most remote you don't get if you don't you do not
get a sharing of years in your head that you'll get
a localized reaction to the shot but you don't get shingles.
As I asked this is now the. Program that he's saying.
Why are they not getting the T.
In
a real enough. TB Again was one of these things that they thought
they had totally relaxed and it was actually being handled primarily.
By an amount of the T.V.
With their giving you to the best of my knowledge because we didn't study it at all
and I training because they didn't talk about it if it is trying to see if you're
susceptible to TB or if you have it in a low because T.V.
Can be
a you can have it and it's late and so when you get that shot it tells
you it's not really
a vaccination. Yeah yeah I don't see.
Where. You actually get a T.V.
Vaccine so there are people that come here and they are always positive and they
said I will be for that and. That they OK well I don't I don't know
like I said. This text that I used to get qualified to get shots which is
about that they did not even go and didn't mention diversity of us is that all. But
I know that the tuberculosis test that they give you in this country sometimes
is not
a vaccination it's basically saying what your set Sept ability or whether you're
a carrier and the problem is is that the original animal Yod acts that were
developed were very able to handle the burka loss' and eliminated in this
country I mean if you go back into the nineteenth century there were you know
millions of deaths in this country from tuberculosis. What happened what got rid of
that was the antibiotics. And now what we're finding is that many of the TB.
Bestseller I are not are able to protect themselves against the N.
About it they mutated there the you know the normal antibiotics
don't work and so they're constantly trying to develop new antibiotics. We are
overmedicated society. And one of the negatives of that is that especially
in the area of antibiotics and not only over medicated but in animal and
food development we use antibiotics to get better yields to get.
Better cows and beef and pork and that So we build up the potential
of bugs which are immune to the common and biopics and therefore
there's always new anabolic scumming out hopefully. Which the bugs won't have an
immunity to but the more they're misused. The more they are like for
example you know when people come into the pharmacy and get
a prescription for an antibiotic it all was basically always we always say till
gone it was a take them three times
a day til gone. I can't do this by any data but I would imagine there's
a lot of an
a biopic sitting on people shelves at home because they stop feeling bad
and figure why should I continue taking this well there is
a possibility that you know you are dancing around the ring in jabbing the the guy
and you never knock them out and then he comes off the canvas and they get hurt
a little bit knocks you out so that's what's going to happen in our society we
develop bugs which you know come off the campus and hit us and now are immune to
was knocking them down again so it's better to take their medications
the way they're prescribed and I guess if you get twelve an ironic capsules they
take all twelve of them don't put four of them away for
a case I get sick again. Any other questions.
Immunizations Are there any. No no there's no realizations for
a fungus that's all topical there are many topical drugs which will attack fungus
and now they even have developed oral medication which attacks fungal
infections but then again they you know it's
a fungus is totally unrelated to
a virus most of here. You know here immunizations are viral type
diseases so you can you know go after and develop you know immunization is going to
viral diseases they go after fungal diseases not easy.
Oh thank you very much for having me and you know I want to get vaccinated
I'm OK.