Views expressed at Conferences and 'by artisans and people interested during the tour. 14. The system of industrial instruction was visits to enquired into in the schools visited, and the ques- tion was discussed with workmen and employers of labour in the shops. Some of the latter ad- vocated the apprentice system, in which the craftsman is assisted by learners or apprentices. The aim of the trade workshop is, of course, to make a profit, and the training of apprentices is a secondary consideration. Beginners are not paid; but in a short time they are able to earn two or three annas a day* A craftsman would only have a few apprentices—three or four at the most—at one time. 15. There appeared to be a general demand for more thorough industrial training— (a) Ijy teachers who, by their ability and zeal, were able to command the res- pect of people of the artisan class ; (&} by the introduction of modern methods ; (c) by the introduction of modern and im- proved tools and simple machinery. 16. As an inducement to good work, it was urged that pupils should receive the sale value of their work, less the cost of the material they use. 17. Night schools were not generally desired Night schools even for those who are at present working as apprentices in small shops. It was urged, in rired> More tho- rough indus- trial training needed. Pupils should receive the sale value of their work,