216 DISARMAMENT AND SECURITY Part IT On the question of treaty revision he defined the attitude of the Little Entente in terms that were precise and uncompromising. While discussing this question at Geneva with Sir John Simon I was compelled to remind Mm that frontier adjustments^ cannot be imposed upon any state and that any one attempting anything of the sort with Czechoslovakia would have to march an army into her territory. We should know how to defend ourselves. It was possible to dispose of territory at the Peace Conference. Since the moment when ownership was confirmed in law to this or that state it is perfectly absurd to claim any right of disposition. That is our position in principle, and we will not depart from it for any one. We cannot understand how a combina- tion of states can be formed to divide the territory of other states when— if I am rightly informed—all questions as to their own territory are to be excluded on the ground that no agreement could be reached about them. . . . Frontier alterations are only possible by direct agreement between the states concerned within the framework of Article 19 of the League Covenant. This vehement negative declaration was followed, however, by a positive statement of three conditions on which a {minor alteration or adjustment of the treaty frontiers' might possibly be brought about. (a) There must be no external pressure, which would only call forth counter-pressure and would lead to nothing. Agreement can only be reached by direct negotiation between the peoples interested and with their free consent, given in accordance with their constitutional laws. This is true of any application of article 19 of the Covenant, since that article assumes the agreement of the interested states. (b) Such an agreement is only possible in an atmosphere of calm after some years of peaceful co-operation between the peoples concerned. It cannot follow from any sort of terror, pressure, or blackmail exercised by one Power against another. (c) Such an agreement is only possible if equivalent compensation is given, so that the interests of both parties are fully respected and their Parliaments and public opinion can give their free consent. This limited and guarded indication of a possibility that the Little Entente might not always remain completely intransigent in regard to Hungary's and Bulgaria's territorial claims was a corollary to the second of two points in which Dr. Benes summed up the Little Entente's ideals and aims. The first of these points was that Central and Eastern Europe must not be allowed again to become an arena for the Great Powers' conflicts, nor the Central and East-European successor states to become the Great Powers' pawns. The second point was that, if the Great Powers were to be precluded from fishing in troubled waters, the ex-victors among the Central and East-