32,8 THE KNIGHTS TEMPLARS grave offences against the Church. De Nogaret and de Plasian in turn objected to the presence on the tribunal of several cardinals who, they claimed, were biased against France, These were only the first of the squabbles that marked the process. The charges against the dead pontiff had been repeated many times, and now Philip's representa- tives produced statements given under oath, and a long succession of witnesses testified that Boniface was guilty of the most monstrous crimes. It was a remarkable body of evidence, and it is significant that, although torture was said to have been used by the defence, none of the witnesses for the prosecution complained of having been tortured or coerced in any way: In the so-called trial of the Temple, Philip's ministers had shown themselves to be expert fabricators of evidence and highly successful in finding witnesses who would swear to anything and everything that was required of them. But the witnesses called by de Nogaret and de Plasian in the process against Boniface came from provinces over which Philip had no control. These witnesses may have been bought with French gold to give perjured testimony, but that is extremely unlikely, and it seems probable that the deponents sincerely believed what they said before the papal tribunal. Yet most of the statements are almost incredible and some of them are wholly incredible. Witness after witness accused Boniface of the grossest depravity, of scoffing at the sacraments of the Church, of keeping a familiar demon, of engaging in black magic—one deponent told in great detail how Boniface had killed a cock, scattered its blood in a magic circle, and cast spells. The dead pontiff was alleged to have openly propounded the theory that immortality was a myth and recognised as such by intelligent people, although they pretended to believe in it; for the best way to keep the vulgar in subjection was to hold out the promise of a future life, Boniface, said another witness, had declared that the Virgin