X RELIGION AND EDUCATION 293 You will excel in the games you love well, all bloomingj athletic and fair,' not learning to prate as your idlers debate with marvellous prickly dispute.1 Health, hunting and moderation go together3 as Telekleides puts it, thinking of olden times when the Areopagus ruled the city.3 Pheidippides, on the other hand, the faithful disciple of the New Education, turns some words of the selfish Pheres, the father of Alkestis, into an attack on his own father: either way the words are an expression of unscrupulous individualism.2 The rationalist view that it was a matter of knowledge and teaching only to be good was opposed by those who were aware of the strength of human passions; occasionally a con- ciliatory combination of nature or character and upbringing could be proposed. Euripides allows us to see something of the discussion going on, which naturally was more serious and more subtle than the straight fight between the Just and the Unjust Logos.4 The answer of the New Education herself is based solely on the idea of personal advantage and enjoyment.5 'It is worth more than a thousand staters to take the feebler side and yet to win the case.'6 The chief advantage of rhetoric as taught by the sophists was its power of influenc- ing decisions in the law-courtS5 but the new art with all its tricks was to help in every situation of life. The man who had mastered this art was therefore much sought after and well paid.7 The issues, however, were much larger than that. The boy no longer went to the -paidotri'beSj the old-fashioned type of teacher, nor did he undergo the old-fashioned dis- cipline.8 People were eager for new principles and rules, and the old ideal of moderation no longer satisfied the young/ It is one-sided and mistaken to regard the dissipation and effeminacy of youth as the only results of modern education. 1 Cl002f. 2 Telekl 26, cf. 22, 24-5. Cf M Giffler, AJA LXII (1941), 224^ 3 KA.CCOUCFI TTCctSES, Trorrepcc 6* ou KAocav 8oK£f$, 0.1415, Eur. Alk 691 Cf Gnibe, 140 4 Eur Hipp 920, HtL 91 iff, Ion, 247?, Or 410 (cf frg 1100),IpL A. 56iff — Htpp. ySffj 377ff — Hek 595!", cf Eupolis 91 5 C.936ff. 6 C io4if 7 C 46931 8 €.916,9635". » e.g, 0.896, 924, 943,