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Ke.nnehv, Iv.C.l')., in the Chair Sir W'ii.mam Kics'-VEnv, T-\i>ik,s and (liiNrr.icMRX, — I HiWK, as the C'hairman has infoiiucil yon, had great facilitii"* for l)ocomii>jj: aciiiiaiiilovl with the (lueslioii now lioloif us, as i have spent many summiMs and autumns in the Island of Ncwloundland in the hist ;{0 years, and know well iht- coast h'ui,' and also the inlerior. - ]\Fy ol)iect in !;ivin.'-i, this lecture is in the interests oi the people of lh(> colon V, more espctialjy of the poor fishermen, to sliow how they havr been treated l)y the J]rilish (Government for the last 100 years and more. 'I'he italies in the printed part of the lecture are my own, the (|uolati«.M)s from deNpalclics, opinions of the law ofiicers, etc., are from olVicial sources, and will m.iinly l)e found in a Foreign ( Jltice .Memorandum, dated .March, 1800, and July, IS?:?. -I'::.:, io I7l;5 the freiich had made <:ertain lod.Ljments in tin' island, especially at Placontia, which they had fortified, and. on oneoci-asioii thiy marched a force from that i)!ace to St. John's, which cil} tlu-y captured, hut shortly after were driven out and defeated hy a Ikilish expedition. By Article XIII. of the 'I'realy of I'trecht, 171:?, it was a^'reed lliat i-vroijin "The islam! (:allod.Jit\wf()nn(llanii, \ulh the adjaci-iU i-^l.mds, shall from oiVice humho. this time forward belong of rigjit icJudiy to llreat Hritain, and to that end ••'«>0. the town and fortress of Placentia, and whatever other j>!aces in the said island are in the posst'ssion of the French, shall be yielded and t;;ivt n 4>p "Nor shall lhej:nj_)st Christiiin Kin^',.*''^ hc'\rs and successors, or any of llK'ir .subjects, at a>iv tii.'U- fiima/i,r lay cliu'in A' iinv light to tlic Sir it/ isLiii.J.iUtig (f fhh. Hut it sh.iU be allowi'd to the subjects of France to caich lish and to dry ihem on land in that p;iil only and in ncj other,'" which tl'.e treaty goes on to describe is between Cape Honavi.-ta ffDncyf 14:4^ I T Foroij;- OfVioo ISOli. 1 Forcijjii OfVioe nil' ISOli. ino. T'"' '■'•'■•N'li IN- NT\n-oi:vi)r,,\Ni). and Pninl Ki.l,.. .oin, M-n„,l Uy Uu- n,.,;h of th, island. Tho Krcnd, . t tins tunc pnuhKvcl a n.a,' whrr.-in I'oinl Ki.h.< ua. ,.„l, .,, Cap. Ra- liouT-UT. llH- (r.„nl u-as disruvrnnl l.y a Jlrilish a.In.ira! ^ ' % A,l,--I. V.ot llu. TM.ahof )>ans, 17l >^... and ./„•;.. ,;a a pari of A IH . X II. .,, the . ,va,y oi Utrecht.- _ Hy tia.^U:.als.. the Islands S ': ?r " " 'f "'"'" ''"•'" '"'^ (>>'• tl>c convenience uf the l..sl)cr> , an.l o keep upon then, a !r„ard of ai) men onlv for iho police " y IH. lrcuxyo{ycrsM.^...im^^y\i,hl of ihe l^riti.h to Now- loan lland an>U ,oju];ac(M>tj^^ ,„,,, j,, ^^,,j^.,,, ^j,, ,^^ ,,^^, Treaty o I Irecht ,,_n,aiiiUnned. Tlu. ish,ndsoLapi„.re and Miqueion an n-ded to ,he l-rench. and ,he French •'fishermen a.e to enjoy llu- r.gh to .njoy that uh„-h was as^i^ned to the.n l,v the Trealv of Utrcriu " and In- tins ireaty, • m, order to prevent the quarrels" uhiih had aris;,, hctween the IreiK-h and i:n,,lish helueen Cape Honavista and Ca.e bt. John, ,n consequence of the n>nnero,;s IWi.ish .settlers on that part of he coast, the I.rench ^ave tq, the right to fish between those j.oints, and nn.eu thereof the treaty shore was j.roh.n.oed from Point Ri,ho to Cape -^r, ^^«l*';' "" ^^r'';"''''"" "'" ''■' ^''■''■'""'^' ^f".i^«ty, dated Seplemher Jrd, 1 iects from i./.rrup/i„. /;; any manner hv Ihar co.,M.f,,, .tluMlsheix^djh^^ th.. inn/>,.r,ny rvarise of ;^ ^y'"'-'Us.iminled Jo Hum nroTTnie m;v^ n-rri.. island ofNewfotmd- and ;,ana^.h4=.uilM^:^,^^,,,^,vr (-flUa^Uliu^v.-./ .,///.w,v,A- which shall be fonned there to he rcinoved. and hi^^k^^a^...;. .m.,j,,,^^. ,,j,, -^^ '''''^"'■■'^ tl'^th^-Vc-nch fishem,en Lt; nol inrnuu.ioded in cui.in. the wood iiecessiuy for lUc. repair of their sca/R)lds._Liii^. and fishing-vessels ■; ihe Article XIII. of llu. Treaty of_Utreclu. and the method of CHTTyiug on the fishery which l>as at^.,// //,,-, /,„, acUarU^eJ shall be the plan iqn)n which the li.neiT shain^T^trried on there, it shall not be deviated Ir.mi hy a//^rj>,u/y : the Frem:h fisl^.r.nen buildin-r rmly their scanolds, contMi.ng Ihein^^jyvsjp the repair ot their fishing-ve.ssels and notwinleruio there; the subjects of his ihitannic Majesty on their pnrt not molestm- ni any manner the French fishermen durin's their tishin- nor injm mg their scaflbld., during their absmre. "" ••The Kin- of Greal JUiiain in cediu.;;- the Islands of .Si. I'ierre and Muiueh.n to Fraiu-e, rega.ds them as ceded for the purpose of serviiif. as a ,r.i/ Mirr \o \\x,-. Freiuh fisherm.Mi and in full confid(-nce that these pos.scssH)ns wdl not becouu. an ohj.ct of /.a/oi^.y between the two nations " Acomit.>rJ)eclaration was made by the Freud. Kin- on the same ,\nv .hit a.s pouiled out by the law officer.? on 2lih March, iS.'ifl, it was signed L ■*',■; r*^"v Y^,w»ir V IIIK |-ki:N( il IN NKWKOl-Ntn.ANJ). after tlie HritisI, hcdar.iuon, willi uliichthe Kiu.q-of Fr.mci; decl.-nv.l "l,e is fully salisfitii." My tlu- TrtMiy of r.iris, IHI I. (h,. KhmicIi ri-.ht of nsliiup; " Hl\'n the r.',/.v/i" ()f 111,. Jsliiul ,:,f x\<-\vf(.mHlhMKl ;i[i(l ;uli..cciit islands in Uu.. v-nc finll of St. La\nv:uce, was rc-pkuiu! upon tho saiiu.- footing in wliicli it '^''*'« stood in 1702. This (;nactni«nt was niainfainid l>y the Tr>'aty of Paris of ]816. Under ihi-ahuvc Trealies and Di-clarations the. Fronch iiow make the followin;^ claims :-- 1. An exclusive right of fishery on the treaty shore. 2. That all fixed British settlements of whj'tcver nature on that portion of tho coast are contrary to llie treaty, and that the French have the riL;hl U) demand their removal. H. 'I'he ri;.;!it to catch fish of all descriptions. 4. The rii,di! to take salmon and other (ish in the rivers, both in the fresh and .salt water. 5. The exclusive ri,<(ht to the shore for half a mile from tlu- sea. 6. The right to exercise jurisdiction on the ir<;aty shore as retrards what they may consider breaches of iheir treaty rights by the British fishermen. 7. The right to set up lobster factories on the treaty shore, and |o K'^iil concessions to their .subjects to carry on that industry. Now as regards the claim_of exf-lu'iiv^o rfgiu to fish. It appears ibid " from the nrchlves of the Koreir;u,airu;e," that briuecn 171;'. and ]7S0, 'Mhat Is to .say from the 'Frt-jitv of Utrecht to the breaking out of war in 17K0, the rights enjoNed by the iMeuch were ' comunrnr only, aiul tho attempts made froin time to time by the latter to induce the jiritish (Jovernmeiit to make their rights exclusive had been successfully resisted." It also appi^ars th.'.t Mr. Fitzherbert at the lime of the making the Treaty of 17.S;5 and tlu; Declaration, r(?fu-sed to concede the cxchisive right of fishing demandt.-d by l"raiire, but promised that the FVench should not be " molested." Mr. Fitzherbert, .ij.i_a further d(;spatch of .May Ith, 1783, "stated that ]\f. de VcMgi'imes continued to ui\qe the insertion of such words in the Declaration, a.< would .secure the t.xr/usiW riglit of fishery to the I'Vcnclu "This attoinpt to obtain exclusive rights was, however, resisted," and "it wiU._Le _.alii;a:^ed that neither the Treaty of 1783 nor the Declaration aiUK'xed tliereto confers any exclusive rights of fishery upon the French." In additir)n,the_very wording of the Declaration which sa);S "it shall not bf ileviated hovnjyj ,(iAeclaiation, concurrent without interrujiiioiL which g^ave the French niore or less a pre-emption. »« Governor Darling, in a despatch to Air. Laboucheie in 185G, stales that I'oiv'n 11 Oliici" i)k HUP, 0<1i>'<- nil mi>. » IIIK IRKNCH IN NKUFOUNOLANU. scvfral proclamations of Governors hc-twoon llui y^certain wha« was the precise footing upon which the French fishery a tually stood ■ 1702. *• Nwit is evident that specific evidence would hi- necessary in order to show that the construction w)iich the French '".ov. .nmcnt now desire to put upon the Declaration of 178.1, is the intc.prt union which was given to that Declaration at the period when the Declarafi .1 was framed, .md when the real intention of the parties must have hcon best kn'>H-n. It would be requisite for this purpose to prove that upon the conclusiori o! the Treaty of 1783 French .subjects actually entered upoa the enjoyment of an exclusive right to catcli fish in the waters oj/" //i,- r",;r/ in (juestion . . . at the commencement of the war in 1792 ; but no evidence to such < ff. rt has yet been produced . . . and moreover it does not appear that sucli right was claimed by France, or aduiitted by l^ngiaiul, at th.e termination of the war in 1801, or at the Peace of 18M." And referring to the prohibitory proclamations of the ICnglisli Governors after 1783, which were issued " from time to time on occasions when it was found thai IJritish subjects while fishing wiliiin the limits in question, have caused interruption to the French fishery," Lord Palmer.ston says tliat "neither in the Act of Parliament of 1788, passed for the express purpose of carrying the Trealy of 1783 into effect, nor in any subsequent Act of Parliament relating to the Newfoumlland fishery, nor in any of the instructions issued by the Admiralty or Colf)nial Oflice, nor in any i)roclamation whicli has come under my view, issued by the Governor of Newfoundland, or by the Ikilish admiral upon the station, does it appear that the right of French subjects to an exclusive fishery, either of cod-fisli or fish geia-rally, is specifnaHy recognised." And, in conclusion, he adds " . . . . exclusive rights are privileges which, from the very nature of things are likely to !)e injurious to parties who arc thereby debarred from souie exercise of industry in which they would otherwise engage, such rights are therefore certain to be at some time or other disputed, if there is any maintainable ground for contesting them ; ai;d for these reasons when negotiators have intended to gr.ant exclusive rights, it has !)eeu their invariable practice to convey such rights in tlirect, unqualified and comprehensive terms, so as to prevent the T)IV: FRKNi n IN NEWKOUNDLANU. 7 possibility of fjituri-. dispute or ilouhl. In the present case, Ijowevi-r, such forms of exjiression are ciitin ly v.aiUinp' ami tlic claim put forward on tilt' part of France is founded simply upon inference, and .upoi an assumed interpretation of words." Such are the chief poir.ts in the celebrated despatch of T.ord Palmerston, one of ihe few British statesmen who have really safeguarded our Imperial interests. The law olTieers of the Crown were consulted at different periods as to the exclusive riglU to ftsh. 'I'hey generally laid down that British subjects might fish on the treaty shore, provided they could do so without interrupting the French. Sir E. Lytton, in his instructions to the Newfoundland Fishery (.'ommissioners in 1850, said, "The French right ,^rt!.^^'^'" • 1 r 1 r .o, , ■, r ^ , • r OOici; memo. js therefore not thnt of an exchisu i> fishery, but that of r fishery tree from i^g.j^ disturbance by British compclition." This is the claim made by the British Government up to the present time. For FiXKi) Si: m.KMKNT.s. This hitherto has been the most difficult point of the treaties and Det'larations, the French claiming that fixed settlements of any kuid are contrary to the treaties, the Fnglish maintaining that the Declaration only referred to fixed fishing settlements, and that settlements of any other kind arc not t'ontiary to the Declaration. As a fact almost every settlement on the treaty shore is more or less a fishing settlement. Now, in order to get any clear idea of what was really meant to be granted to the French by the undertaking to remove "fixed settlements,'' and the causes that led to such uiulertaking, it is necessary to refer to jiistorical facts, which appear to have been overlooked in dealing with this question sine- the treaty of 1815, by Secretaries of State aiul law officers of the Crown. I'p to the breaking out of the war in 178:i the fishery was a ship fisherv — that is to sav, was carried on almost entirelv bv fishern:en from France and Fngland who came to Newfoniull iid for the season only, and then returned home. Up to that date permanent si-tlle- menl by the Ikilish was not only di.scouraged, but contrary to the law of the colony. The- fishery appears to have been consitlered a sort of lirescrve for certain Knglish adventunMS. The masl<'r of the first British vessel lo arrive in any bay in the spring became the "fishing admiral," as lie was termed, for ihat bay for that season only. 1 le had the right to choost; any portion of tlie beach he Hl;ed on which to establish his "room," ;tf it is called, that is. the area on \»hieh lie erected his stages and scaffolds for drying and curing fish (cod). These stages are practically a wharf built out over the water, the lower part used for splitting the fish preparatory to saltini; and drying ; tlie heads and offal being thrown into the sell. Above are poles forming a kind of wooden gridiron, on which the fish arc spread lo dry. The fishing admiral had also juri.sdiction to .settle disputes, .md other vessels as ihey arrived chose places for their " rooms." It was fiv^t come first s(;rvcd. A HIIIIIM i' Foreign Ofliii- inei ISC.C. _i( 8 Fore om.: ISdCi •igii l- IIUMIIO. TriK rKl'.NCH IN NK\VrOU\I)I,ANI>. But (he possession of ;i cert.iiii place one year did noi carry possession for the- next. On this har.s in the treaty, and not " co>l," yet the wording of the Ireaiy when- it refers to stai^es, etc., for the yiiif; of fish is ineompatihie witli that of any oilier fishery l)Ut tliat of a cod fisliery, as neither salmon nor lobsters an; dried. \n addition, at the time of the 'IVeaty of Utreeht no other fishery was carried on commercially, and the word "fish" in Newfoundland has from time immemorial meant "eod" only. If a man wishes to ask ibout salmon, lierring, or any other kind of fish, he alhides to them by name. Admiral Sir Hugh Palliser, gov<'rnor of the colony in 17<)3, slated the l-"rcnch fishery right included a co,l Jisht'tyonly, and gave no riglii to catch salmon. This view is also held by the colony, but the Hritish Ciovernment seem to take the view that fish of any kind are included, although Count Sebastiani, in a communication to ],ord Palrnerston in 18:}0, speaks of a cod fishery. It has been affirmed that the word in the draft of the treaty of 1713 was "rod," but that " fish" was snbstituleil, as giving a greater purity of language. The original treaty was in Latin: " Tiscaturam exercere et pisees in terra exsictare permissum erit " are the words used ; literally to exercise a fishing, to carry on a fishoy. '1 here is no diMibt but what the fi.shery to l)e exercised was a coil fishery only, and this ])oint should be vigorously maintained by our (lovernuient. Some lo years ago there was an action tried in iJie highest Courts of Newfoundland, wh'cli depended on the meaning of the wortl '■ fish," and it was decided that " fish " in Newfoundland meant " cod " and nothing else. The RuiiiT to 'J'akic Sai,mon in- iitic Rivkk:-^* norii in the Frksu AND Salt Watku. This right is denied by the British Covernment. The fishery in the 1"o'i.m;s'ii treaties is describetl as on " //n-cons/s," which is not up the rivers. The law ^^'^','^'-' ""■""^'• ofliccrs of the Crown concurred (1^59) in the '. i.-w taken by T.oid Clarendon respecting fishing in the rivers especially for salmon, "that they arc not within the scope of the Treaties and Declarations, and that the French have no right thereto, nor to fish in any of the rivers or mouths of rivers in Newfoundland." The (Practicam.v) Exclusive Rtgfit to thi: SiioiiE for a Distance of Halv-a-Mii.k i-rom the Sea. The French claim that the British have no right to occupy a yard of land or erect any building within the half-mile limit, ou the plea that such occupation may interrupt their fish.ery ; also that the British are not at liberty to enquire into the botia fulfs of such alleged interruption, which " may be a mere contrivance to get rid of an inconvenient population " ; i Report o ', Comiiiaiv i, Howortli ; Admiral I i 1874. 1 1 I t 10 TMr. KUKNCH IN NKWlOtJNOLANI^. Report ol" Comiiiamlo Howortli t( Admiral l\-, 1874. the Kroiicli claim tluiL tlicy arc to he llic sole arbiters as to wiiat con- stitutes an interruption to bo judge jukI jury, in fact— a virtual claim to territorial sovcreij^nly of the shore ; a claim which ?»lr. Wacldington in 188G actuiill) made wlu;n he maintained that this right to the shore " was vested in them a^; part of their ancient sovereignty of the island which they had never relinquished." Such a cl.iini is absolutely untenable, as it is dincdy ;it variance witii the text of the Treaty of Utrecht, whicli debars tin; French from claiming "'//{.)' r/;'-/// /o the said ishuid," etc. " At most the French, by the treaty stij)ulations, have a right only to the shore which they can use," or bond fnk. require to carry on their cod fishery. There is no mention in the Treaties or Declaration of the half- mile claimed by them. Now the area occupied by a " room " in which fish caught, in .say 10 miles of sea, are curetl, dried, etc., would not be more than about 300 yards long and 200 wide. The "stages" arc erected close to and partially over the salt water. At the prcse.it time there are only about seven French rooms in the 800 miles of coast that forms the trealv shore, if measured by following the indentations thereof. The amount they really require is therefore infinitesimal, considering the length of the treaty shore. Tlie mf)st uncalled-for and groundless compjaints of the Frenclj are included in their determined opposition to the erection of wharfs for the exportation of minerals and other produce, and especially to the opening of mines within treaty limits. The British (iovernment has more or less given in to such complaints on the part of the French, though, provided the oi)ening of such mines or building of wharfs does not in any way interrupt the French fishery, it is hard to see the necessitv of giving way to complaints that are really frivolous ami unfounded, and the admission of which involves great hardship on thir colony, and directly prevents its dcvcloiuaent. As ail i-v:^nijlc, in 1H7I ^fr Fov H^niu.ff r.pKwiil n ».;,,,, „p^,.-&|- Gcorgu's Hay — IXtJ-kuiaiut built a w'li'irf, '"■■' ''■"' errcted spmc >>iiilfi;n|v< jilld -g«l-^imiie--»«»-4o-alu:__su£lace. The l-'rench strongly objected. Commander Iloworth, R.X., in his report stales "That as thise buildings were 12 miles from ihc nearest French fishing station, he. could not conceive that the Freijch can ever be injured by the prosecution of these most important works." J]ut under pressure from the Hriiish Govern- ment Mr. JJennett closed down his mine. Two years ago another mine was opened at Point Blulf, 20 miles from any French fishing station, to which the iMcnch also objected, especially to a wharf there. And the Britisli Government not many years ago actually forbade the building of a railwa)' that was jirojected, because its terminus was to be on the treaty shore at .St. (ieorge's Bay, and that French treaty rights mi!;ht pos.iibly be "affected," although no Krenchman had been near the spot selected for many ><.ars. At the present time there is a railway st;>.tion at St.. George's Bay. Other whaifs had been removed at various times by orders of the British authorities. Some have not been interfered with. 'Hi }> i if i/*- TIIK KKKNCH IN NKU FOUNPLANl). 11 ! •« '/♦" \ Thu Ricirr to TCxi:iu:i.se Iitkisdiciion on tmk Tkkaty Siiori:. It is an axiom uf iiiti'rualiou.il law that the sovcroigii power ahjne can exercise aiitliority within its own hiiiils. ]iy tlic 'J'reaty of Utrecht Great IJritain was eonlirmeil in the cxrUisive sovereif^nly of the entire island and adjaeint islands ; the French, tlicrefore, cannot have jurisdic- tion on tlie treaty short;, jji 1863 the Queen's Advocate laid down " 'I'lat Puroii;!) by thu Xieat^' stipulations the l''ri-ni:h <'pj(\v no xLiiliL-of jurisdiction Oftui^ miviia. within tlieir fishfiry llii>|t^s." Mr. Addington, in a despatch to the ^^^*'- Admiralty in the same year, stateil that '* We altogether deny the right of the French to take the law into their own hands and to drive away English fishing- boats from the Treaty limits." In 1H52 a British war- shij) was stationed olf the coast of Newfoundland to protect the liritish fishermen, hecause the French Iiad taken the law ii\lo their own hands. Lords Ciari.'iidon, Cowhn', Rosebery, and other .Ministers have protested against such action on the j)art of tlie French ; but it still continues ! TJiough since our surrendc^ronlhe lobster ciuestion, the Fiench men-of-war have more or less ceased their aggressive acts, which prior to that date were very frecpient. Some light is tlirown on this by the instructions of Sir E. Lytton, who was at the. Colonial Oflice in 1851>, to the Newfoundland Fishery Commissioners, in which, whilst he fully admitted that the French had no right to take the law into their own hands, yet he goes cm to say : " Ihit Her Majesty's Government have to instruct you not to entertain H)•^^{, any objection to such proceedings on the part of the Frencli, etc." That is to say, our (Jovernment, whilst protesting on paper against such actions by the French as contrary to treaty, and pretending to protect tlie Newfounilland fishermen from such dejiredations, give secret instructions to their agents to shut their eyes ! Many people would consider this hardly straightforwanl and not a very creditable i)roeeediiig, but I dare say it may be quite in acc(jrdance with the traditions of the Foreign Oflice. It was not until 18C- ih-it ilin-i- Kriiiv;li inpn-nf-uvir won- ever)' fishing season, statiojied^ olV the treaty shore of Newfoundland to control the fisheries. Such a task cannot be a very pleasant one, for it v.ill probably~be admTued that both sailors atid soldiers are above all things lovers of justice and fair play; that being so, naval otiicers on the treaty shore would, no doubt, sometimes have a lepugnance to carry out their instructions from Downing Street, when such orders, whi ;h they are bound to obey, press li.'irdly and even unfairly on the fishermen of the colony, which sometimes they do, especially as the complaints made by th.o French men-of-war to ours as to allegtxl actions by the natives contrary to the treaty, to which our officers are obliged to pay attention, are frequently ev(;ntually found to be groundless and frivolous. In fact, if it was not for the tact disjdayed by our naval oflicers there would have been a serious disturbance on the coast long ago. I The Right to Skt up LoitsTER Factories on the Treaty Shorii ANi> TO Grant Concessions to their ScnjEcrs to Carry on that iNinrSTRY. The first Briiish lob.ster factoryerccled on the tjcaty shore of Newfound- land was in 1882 at St. Barbe, another in 1883 at Port Sanders. Up to 1887 \ i \ 12 Tin: l)l)sler tra|)s iiiterinpt their fishery.. In ISHCi I.ord Jddesleii^h j)rotested in advance to .Mr. Waddington against the erection of lobster factories by the French; he said " that such a course is not allowed i)y the treaties and must bo disi(nitiniied." It would have been well if f)ur Government had stood to these words. Before ISSS the French objected to our factories on the plia that sucli industry interfi'rcd with their fishery, but in ISHH tlu'y set up the conten- tion that they had the right (lobsters being fish witliin the meaning of the treaties) to take them ami also erect factories to pack tluin. This they proceeded to carry out. In September, ISSS, the Foreign ( >Uice addressed a note to l-' ranee calling attention to the illegality of rreni:h lobster packing, and a. farther protest was made by Lonl Salisbury early in ISHt* "against an assumption of territorial riglits in derogation of the sovereignty of the British Crown." Nevertlu less, the French continued to erect lobster factories. Lord Salisbury then suggi sted arbitration, but this very rightly was refused by the Colony; another atletn])t was math; to go to arbitration before a court, that also failed. The British (jo\erniiient then without the consent, nnd .irr.iiimt the wishes (^f the legislature. eoncUlded a fiioi/us rivtnih\ which is in force ii)> to lobster catclnn'^ and fanniiii;, as the woiils limiting tlir crrction u\ bniKliii^'s to ",v/./... t iiiinh' of hiiaiils auil liiih tisn,}/ aiul ihtissiiir for Jnint; of jish" cannot l»y any ingenuity hr mailr to covrr a lohsltT faclory, uhctlicr roofed l>y canvas, wood, or iron sluctiii!:, with a boiler and furnace on a brick foimdation, liniiinj,^ apparatus and ail llic rest ol it. As rejrards tlie. lobster industry bein;; an interruption of ibe Freiuli cod fislury, of course a lobster factory on shore cannot alTcct the capture of fish in the sia. Cod fro(juent deej) wati-r, lobster shallow water. Therelore lobster traps arc not set in the places freipienled by cod, neither is the capture of heirin,t(s, capelin, or scpiids interfennl with by lobster traps. I'roviiled, tin refore, that the factory does not occujiy tin; ground A'//c/ //(/< rcipiin li by the French for iheir " rocinis" or drying places, it cannot in any way interrujH thoin. As to tiie Krench granting concessions to their subjects to build factories on the treaty shore, which ihey did in ISSH, it was an audacious move, and a gross infringement of the treaties. 'I'hc French also try to make out that our lobster factories are illegal as coming under the head of fixed settlements, sedentary establishments, as they call them, that is to say, establishments that arc permanent and occupied all the year round. Now as the lobster season is only in the summer months, there is no necessity for our people to remain in these establishments beyond that period, in which case they would not be fixed seitlemenis, even I allowing tlie Trench claims on that head, which we dispute. With such a strong ca^^e, absolutely unassailable as far as the factories are concerned, it is a j)ily that our (lovi-rnment, who on this question showed great weakness, esi)ecially Lord knulsford, who was at the Colonial Oflice, instead of giving way. did not say to France in efleci: Your factories are absolutely contrary to tlie treaties, and must be removetl. We shall supj)ort our subjects in the lobster industry, provided th;'y do not in any way interrupt your fishing operations. This stand should be made at the expiration of the modus rvVvwr// which shoitly lakes place. This f/io0(Mi si'Vci.i! atlomjiis toiiKikc rirraMi;:t'ineii(s uilh ibc J'rrnclias fotlu^ir lu-.u.y vif^hls on tlic isliuul ; j^mh.-.- IStr, ili,-rr' l|,-]vv !, ■, v. ci;;iil. A in'iiisal of the lioniTn, nts nl.itivc to llicse ananj^emonts sh.ws that, what the lirilisli (Jovoriiiiictil w.iiUcd was to gel rid of a vory tlisuque- able qiustion.j,l all Jiazirds, aiid itAvu.s_qiiiLe a sccou^l'iry considuiaiiou \vlujlliri N'cwfoiiiull.tittl ramo offsfcund best or not. Ail thcso arri;ii:;i:- iiK'nfs fcli to the Ltroumi bL'tatisr the Colony very rii^hlly protcstinl very stroriL^ly against thtui, as they were very one-sidi:cI, and much in the interests ol I'laimc rather than XcwJ"oundjau(L - l"liii_iast^jirrimg.enH;iit, which I will explain to you— as more or less a sample of the remainder — was made in 1SS5. It was at the end of IHS:'. that the British Government and the I'reneir (Jovernuienl arranged to try and come to some agreenu-rit ; four C-ommissioners were to meet in Paris, two British and two l''ri.-i;i_h. Sir William Kennedy, our Chairman, at that time Captain Kennedy, liad an idea that he would be tniploycil as one of the JJritish Com- missioners. Of couise, a better selection could not possibly have been matle, because Captain Keimedy had just come oil the coast of the Newfoundland fisheries, after three years' service there ; but the Cioverr.or of Newfoundland at that time, Sir John (jlover, who was quite aware of the anxiety of the British (government to come to some settlement — in fact thai they were more or less riding for a fall -warned the Colonial (Jifice that Cajjtain Kennedy knew too much! 'I'lierefore he v\as not sent, but instead, two gentlemen, one connected with the I'Vireign Onice, and the other with the Colonial Office: Mr. Clare Ford, ami Tdr. JVnnell. There was not verv mueh fear of those gentleiutin knowing too much, because leally they knew nothing at all, or very little. 1 believe "dr. Clan had been once to Ikdifax, v.hich is 550 miles from Newfomnl- land. Xom; of them knew anything about the coast line or the way the fishery was carried on, and very prob;d)ly they would not havi.' been .dile t(t tell you the dilVerenee between a cod-fish and a capelin. The Kiench Co e.inis.-ioners iiuiudcd a naval uiileer wlio had been yi-ars on l!u" coist of .S'ewfdiindlanil. 'J'hese gentlemen, Mr. Ford ami ?*lr. IVimeli, went to Paris, and ai the end of two years thoy made a final ariang'emen!. I will explain 1. 1 you its piovisit, is. I must lirst of all tell you what witc the so-calleil concessions given to Oreat Pritain. (ire;it liritain was to be alli)wed on the jiait of the map markeil red to have; seltlemenis t)tlier than fishinjr sedlements. The; Piitish (jovermnent h.ive always contended \\c had a right to have settlemetits which were not lishing si>liKnients anywhete on the shore of Xewfoundl.md, and as a matter of fact practi- cally almost all ihe lisliiiir', fiettlements on the treaty shnre of Newfound- land are fishing setileniei.ts. 'iTiere are at present some Bi.OOO people there. We had these setleMnen'is evi-rywhere, |>rovided they did not actually interrupt the French in their fishery operat'ons. Another thing is that the. red mark on the map is wli.it is known in the colony as the slrai.'^ht shore, thai is lo say, it ii . shore of more or less perpeiidictdar clilfs, where you could not la»id e\ .11 in a canoe, devoid almost of harbours. Tlie only harbours j^iveii tons v,') ih much wore in St. (.ieorge's ]?i'.y, ilu; ^ I t TllK KUKNH It IN NK W TOt.'NDLANl). 15 Hay of Islands, and liouii'' Hay. so ihal il was roally no concession to us at all. 'nicn.,-+m>ud(.'.d-lt!i!t. niinrsjAij^ia ioHntl in- Hhe~fiar( of the map ■inarkftl uliiui^ "'»' \v<'re-tn hi'.-alUmu:iiiJii_v\:iiik ihiMU-uw-U^ fcrlain ve i ;• .sLrin^;fi)i and hanipciiMf; conditions. A ilriiish naval olfRtTand a l''rcni-h naval ollici r nii^dit njjrco as to tlic silr lor tlie wharf (this ^avo the Fivnch a veto), and havin.L,' done so, a wharf uiiL,dil be built on the shore, l»nl all the jiarapliernalia connceled with the mines, that is, dNwiling-house.s, slioj)s, nan.'liouses, etc., were to he placed at a dislanci.' of 80') yards back — in sonn- feu- cases 500 yards— and were to be joincul to the wharf by a railway Icneed in. Some tenipor.iry shelters were allowed to be put within !•) yards of this railway fctr the provisional storasjjc of minerals and tools. 1 do not hesitate to .say that if llie mines ihat arc workinsy and liavi' been workint^ in Newl'oundland wtTe ham[jered in that way, lliose rest I ictioPiS would have addi-d most enormously to thrir expense. To build a railway half a mile back on that precipitous rocky coast wouM be vt'ry expensive indeed. Not only ih-il, but v.e havc^a riijht.and the .British (iu\ernment maintain that we have the ri;;ht, to have settle- ments on any juirt of the treaty shore which are not llshing settle- ments, anil therefore provided we do not interfere with the I'Vench, whicli wo are nol likelv to do, wc havi; a perfeit ri;,dit to have those fixed s<-tlle- ments. So this .so-called mining conce .sion did not give us anything worth having. .\s I have alr(\'idy observetl, \\e ha\e a right to any kind of settlement if il does not interru|>t \]ic Frc-mh fishery. Tlu'u the I'Vi'iich gave up their claim to the exclusive right to fish. 'I'hat claim they had no right to, and wc have always exercised a con- current right up to this date. Therefore we got nothing out of that. Now 1 will explain to you the very solid concessions which on that occasion were given to i'raiice. In the liisl place, these parts marked white on the map contain every single harbour of any value on the 80U miles of treaty shore, with the exception of the three 1 liave mentioned. 'J'hesc harbiiins, in the ]»arts left white, in f ict, were to be practically tcserved exclusively for the use of the l'"rench. It is tpiite true tlial in these harlxiurs reserved, any Hrilish .seltlers living there, al llirit time might be allowed to remain, but no new dwelling-housi's were, allowcid to l)e built. That was a great concession to b'rance, anil a guat blow to the Colony, becau-.e hitherto tliere had been nothing to pn-veiit any .settler building llou^es on any jtart of the shore, ])rovided he did not interrupt the Kreiich. .Moreover, it put an entire stepper to any increase of the Jiritish population on that part of the treaty .shore. TIkmi the IVench said they abandoned the fishing in the rivers, hut wen' to be alloweil to fish as far as the \,al(^r remained salt. Here ihoy made a virtue of giving' u[) what they h;id not the fiMitest right «.n the world Vk Then this clause goes on to say, they (the 1'Vench) are nol to be alhjwed to put fixed barriers in the rivt-rs capable, of impeding the fish or navigation. Now. as far as the water is salt is up to the top of the tide, a considi-ralile distance in some place:;, a mile or a miU- and a hvilf. 'I'iic N(nvf•»»» 16 TIIH l-KI'A'CIl IN NEWIOI XI)I,-vNl). local laws witli roc^ard to tlic length ol' liis nets, (Ik" al/r o\ the nicsii, and till" ilisl.mre of in'ts from (.'acli other. Tiie l''i"eiuli woiikl liavi; he.-n t'-ntirely exeiupt from aiiytliii;;'; of that Uiinl. aiul, iirovidi A {][■. v left rooie; for a boat, they might luiiUl a fishing weir, ami lluy niitjit have as many nets as they liked one beliind the olhei-. In lai I, that clause handed ovei to the I'n-nrli jiracticaliy the entire control of iveiy .saimMii river on the treaty shore, 'i'he Xewfonndlaiulers would not lu; able lo put nets in front of the I'Veiuh, because thi- I'leiich wouiil be jjrolecti'd by the j)ro\ iso of non-interruption. Putting ?i nt'l in front of another man's net would certainly be interruption ; all they could du would he, if there was room, to put their nets behind the French i\i.\>, an<'. there. would not be much chance of getting a fi-.h in such ;i piare. A good many of the settlors living on the estuaries and mouths of lliosc rivers Jiave added to their liveHhood considerably by caleliim; .'.nliaou ; thev might do a good deal more only the ri%XTs are unfortunate!}- e;.>nsidcrably ])oached, and the cod traps outside are making great Iiavne with the .salmon, 'i'liesc men have a sort of presc rip'.ive right to urtaiu salmon j)0Sts, as they are called. It very often has i).i>sed from fatlur to son tcjr generations. If tliis salmon clause had been passed, all the riglits tlu'sc men had enjoyed fcjr years would have, bie.n s\M'|)t awa.y. Tins clause was a most abominable giving away of an important rig!u ( \clnsively lield by the ("olony. U^'I'he next clause gave tlu^ French the right to purt Iiim bait at anv time in the j)arts of the shoie which art; non-treaty. Tiiat was a very important concession indeed. That 1 will explain ]»resei)!ly .Xnotlnr clause allowed the I'rench to import free, of duly anything- thiv lil:ed. They ivere to pay no light dues or jiort dues. Jf the l-"rencli wen- allowed, in the harbours where they liave exclu.sive pos,->ession, to laii.l lubacco and rum and all that sort of thing, it would circiilaie in the comitry, and every French harbour would be a holbed of smugiders. Then there was another clause which, allowed to (lie, I'renel) jurisdiction on Ihiiish territory on the tre;ily shoie, provided there was no Fnglish miiiuutoviix-m-sight. Considering that the tre.'ily sliore is SOi) miles long, and that there are only three I'rilish men-of-w;ii tin re, iiisnoi very often they would be found together, au'.! ilu' brencl: g( r, -lally crui:>e alone, 'i'herefore the Frendi had a riglii to exercise; jurisdietioii, lo pull uji and remove the nets and fi.-hing g^ar of llriiish settlers on the plea thnl 1 they were interfering with I'rench lishernien. TheyeouUi also, if damag<' |l was done, either at sea or on shore, hold a cinnt and asstss the damngc, \atKl tlie report of th.it court was to be received as (!vi(K:ne(> in a British Ucourt of justice, 'lliurwa.'; deiuivintj tt Ufitiu]alion of France is nearlv slali'inar\, hut the climate of Xorth .America has, api)arcnTly, a peculiar ■H'ect. on the French ])eople who live in thai part of the woriil, as it rendeis ihctn e.xtrem"ly ))roliric -a baker's dozen is a common number in a I'rinrh family in <,hu'bec. 1 do not know that there is any rea.son to suppose but what the climafi! of Newfoundland would have a similar effei:l. Vou i-aii jud:;e for yourselves the number of people there would have been in thosi- harbours in the course of tweniy years, not to say thirty or forty, if they had been allowed to h.ive one or two famine's there. 'I'lu;sc fot lishini^ in the winter, they would be lompeting with our setth rs in cafihin.;; furs (which ari; very valuable. esi>ecially that of the fo.x), sho'iiin^f dee-r, ,ind soon, althouijh l-.y the treaty the l''rcnch had not the ri;;hl lo shoot even a musk-rat. In the course of forty vears that part of the coast would have been to all intents and purposes a French coloiiy. Now, I liope I have made clear how hieless were the right.s con- ceded to (ircat r.nlain am _ ! how e.Kceedim;ly advanta,i;eous were those given to I'rance, and, moreover, how very important pri\ ilei^es, e.\clusively o\\ .•ned by the ( Hlony, were handed over in pari or uholly to tin- French, without our nceis ing in exchange anything a.pptoacliing to an equivalent. The Colony was, in fai I, entirely given pw.ay. Well, this precious document was signed and agreed to In- both (lovernmenfs. Tin- l"~rench wen- very cork-a-hoop, and were prepared lo do all sorts of things on the treaty shore, lo gi\-e ccineessions to catch salmon tip the rivers, and so on. The Ihitish Ciovernmeiil thought thai al la.'t they liavl got their wicked way, brcau-i,' they hail managed 'dmeiiow or oilier to get over to their views the gentleman wh- at thai timr was I'remier oC Xewloundland. He wasa lawyer, and had no personal intere>t in the lisliciies. Fie j)!ay(.'il iiito the hands of the iJritish and I'Vench ( ioverninents. lie happened to have been made a knighl two or threr vears before, and i)ossibl\- if the thing came off he might h;ive been promi>ed a baronetcy, without paying the fd\y thousand j^ounds which wi- were lold the otlur day was the luii e of that h(Mioiir. Nowt^ver, he was urged to call the lej'.islature of Xewfoumlland tog.'theras soon as |)o.ssiblo to ratify the treaty, as all it re(|tiired was ralifieatioit by the Colony. However, there is man}- a slip. The Ihitish (iovennnenl were not yet out of the wootl. l''ortituately, biiloie the legislalttre of New- foundland ci.uld tin;el there was a general election, ami the people in Iluo-t)0ok If iss:.. I ^ I 18 THK rUliNXir IN' NKWFOUNnLAND. iluo-tniid; iraiigiMU' If issr.. power wiMTlluowtj out oil this very arranp^oinfiiit, and tlic p.uly wlio came in ilecliiuul lo ratify it. Tlui Fori.-ijrn Ollicc was vcryaii,uiy, aiul triod to bully and compel the new ( Jov^Tunirnl to af;rei', to tlu; arraii.^'c mint on the pica llial ilu\v were bound by the promise of their pridecessois. But the CJoverninent of the Colony declared thiT were bound by nothinjf of the kind, and they flatly refused to ratify it. Tln' I'ord-Pennell arran;;emenl. of 1885 was lln.Tofore dead, but the colony had an exceed- ingly narrow escape. rr The promise of 1S5V was respected, although Lord John Russell, in '»• a despatch dated 1800, pro])osed to ignore it, and make an agreement in defiance of the wis!it!s of the Colony. Lord Derby discribed this arrangement as "most advaniageous to the Colony." Colonel Stanley followed suit. Lord Salisbury said he "entirely concurred" with it, and h« wrote a der,i)atch in whicli ]u'. highly complimented Mr. lord and Mr. Pennell on their labours, and for their services on that occasion Mr. Ford becani'.' Sir Clare Ford and was not long afterwards promoted ; and i\Ir. Penneli was made a C.l>. I think this shows preily clearly that failure ami difeaiin the diploniatic service arc not a bar to promotion and lionours on the contrary, it is likely to lead to them. We once shot an admiral fur errors of judgment, to encouri.ge the other; — as Voltaire said. I do not mean to suggest that a diplomatist who al)>oluicly fails in the mission he is .sent to jierform, and who gives away his( ouinry, should be hung or shot, but surely he sliould not be a gainer thereby . Now, in IS.^i) 1 happiMied to go out to Newfoundland, and on my arrival I spoke to some of the leading people, and said I \\as very glad to sec they had got rid of this iniquitous arrangement. I fiirihcr said, " Yon must not rest on your oars. It is a very important mallei that the public at liome .should know all about it and how unfair it wa.s to the Colony. St>iiie of you should write to the 7'//ft,s or to a magazine and expose the whole thing. If you do not" (it was not dcme , " vou may depend U})on it that if any diflicuity croi)s up in future alioui the treaty .shore (pu-stion, the Hritish Cifivernment will turn round on you and .sav, 'this is all your fault, because you did not agree to that excellent arrangement of I8."' It is a rather risky thing to proplir-y in these days, whatever it might havi- been ;<,000 years ago; but on tlii- occasion my prophecy became absolutely true. In two or three years the lobster cpiestion came up, ;nid Lord Knutsford, in response to some memorial from the < loverjunent oi the Colony dealing with mines on the treaty shore, anion;; other matters, threw it in their teeth that they had not agrct'd lo this arrangement. Lord Salisbury, about the same time ^pc.d;ii:g in tlie House of Lords, was reported to have said, in alluding to the arrange- ment : — " It became my province to sign an arrangi-incnt initiated by my noble friend opposite. Lord (jranville, in my opinion a most equitable and v.-orkable arrangenuMit, which I'u: people of Xi'wfound- land, apparently at a heated time of election, threw out and iheieby lost a golden oi>jiorlunity." .\ golden opportuniiy indeed ! Where is the golden opportunity.^ Xowlieie, but for the iMonch, who were very «r * THK KRl'.NCH JN Ni:\VKOt;Xm.\N'l). 10 I Olli. \sm. IIU-IIIO. anxious to avaii ihiinsclvcs of il, l)nl wrre forliin.itcly not permiltdi to do so. Aftorwanls I liapponcd to sif Mr. l''jii!i''ll, ami I i.ske.d liiin ; - " Did you jxople at lint Colonial Ofl'irf- pul up Lord S;)li^l)ury to say wlial Ik; did the oOior day in tlio House of Lords?" " OIi dear, no," s;iid INIr. IVnnoll, "those arc >L-. Waddington's views — Mr. Waddington, the iMcnch Ainha.'-.sador " ! I ihiid; no furlliL-r coninu-nl is nt'rdod. I will just say a wt)rd as to tiic iiilriij.ncmont by France of tlu> treaty Ioh-'kh .stil)lllations. 'L'lj.' |''rcn.-h lu-]rnii in ISTi tn full up iUn i;aliiii.i|jj_^-<.i-; , jiQiiu! Lcd on the f.aliradur coast. vvinti..'tcd in 'i b.irr.-tl-ikQ rWtT^ ujili fish'",':" ^yfirs, l)uilt vessels_ins(.oad of mcrf ly i-'p''irin:: thrill. t"^'V '!"• I'^f '"tf 'l'--i« """ hands, and IctVtlicir boats and oihcr^iy,\r "" the mnsK, ^yhich they had no rikdiLlQ-do hv treat>:x- Thcse infringements of the treaty are chiefly to be found in a report by Mr. J'crley, who was a Nov^-Scotian, employed by the I'oreign Ollice. He was sent out to Newfoundland in 18.')7lo enquire into the alleged grievances of the French, who coinjilaincd that our settlers had interrupled ihcnj in their fishery rights. I\[r. I'erley used to tell the following story. He was over here before sailing for Newfoundland, and went to the l'"oreign (.)liice one day, when one of the Permanent Secretaries said to him :• " When you are about it, Mr. I'erley, you might as wtdl make a report on the fishing difficulty which has turned up at Vancouver." Mr. Perley said :-- - "Certainly I can do that after I have finished with Newfoundland, but it will take mo some time to get there" (he would have to have gone round by Cape Horn in those days). "Why," .said the gentleman at the Fon-ign (Jflicc, "the two places are close together, arc they not.'" 1 hope the geographical knowledge of the Foreign Olliee has improved since that date. With regard to the Islands of St. Pierre and .Micpielon, the French have a right to fortify them, because the proviso made iu the treaty of l('n'>) which jirovented them iloing so was not repeateti iji the ne.\t trtsity ; but they can only fortify them to the ext(!iit that they must not become an ol\je( t of jealousy. That is rather indolinile, but that is the opinion of the ]a\v iaiiu m l.urd against the IJritish fishernnui or settlers exists. The onh- grievances M.-ilnu'sinirv, seem to be those sustained by them." As regards St. Pierre not being an object of jealousy, it is certainly so, as it is a nest of smugglers. We are not even allowed to have an agent there; while at St. John's there is a l"rench agent, a M. des Isles, who performs all tlu duties of a consul, is, in fad, a spy, who is at the bottom of a good dial of the friction between the two nations. Our <;overnn)ent up to that time did not appear to have taken much notice of these illegal actions by the French. On this lu^ad the law offi- cersofthe Crown made some very jjerlinent remarks, referring to the (Irey Islands and Tkdle Isle North, where the I'rench had attempted to exercise exclusive rights. The law officers say these islands, being in the lliid. l.s,-,{). j;nv otYuoi S.V.). T OlVai- I 1S7K. '.'0 THK TKICNl 11 IN NKWIOl'Nln.AM). Atlantic, anil not in llic (Julf oi St. I.iwrcnci-, \vl l(.T(r IS! and s on till' ( oast I. mil arr alone lui-ntiom.-d in the tu-atics, the I'Voncli have no right lhii'ijjii ( HVici" rncino IS7:<. gross case is referred to in the Foreign Office nieniorandumof 187;?, when ]|ie ct)mmander of the French war-ship " Dianiant " destroyeu the- nets of lui^lish fishermen without warnjug^-in -*, b.iy where no Frenchmen had \J"ie(|uented for thirty years, and wlien; none were i)resenl. This was con- sidercd a direcj_assertioji_fiMhe^French claim of exclusive i ight to llsh. ^ur '^'•'■VjTPmrnl pr'^Mrstvd,.aiid the only answer I.(jr71 ( iranville received was thiitjlheseacts of the French naval ollicers were tiefeiided. No NewfouiuUaiidor has ever, as far as 1 can ascertain, n-erived any comjiensation for such illegal destruction of his jin^per'y. 'i'o a poor fisherman the destruction of hi> nets is not a mere "pin-prick," but a stab in his vitals. Of late years it is not the J'li-nch fishermen against whom there are complaints, but the French naval officers. C'ommander Knowles stated in his report about 1S73 that tin- French and J'lnglish fishermen got on well enough, but when a Frencli man-oCrwar appeared it interfered with our people. For many years the treaty shore was a sort of no man's land, and the residents were not rei)rcse!ited in their Ilousi; of Assembly. 'I'he Hritish Government refused to allow Newfoundlanders to have grants of land on that part of the coast, and also refused to allow the (joveniment to appoint magistrates there. ]n 1H73 the Colony made a very strong appeal to allow the appointment of magistrates on the treaty shore. 'I'here were then a good many people .settled there — some 0,000. I •f ^ TMK krt;ncii in Mwi-oi'Nitrwn. 21 h-'s. CI \. I.onl rininvillo, ulio u.is llnii in oilier, asked llic Imcik h il'lhcy objccliHi. Tlicy (ii(i not :ins\vt>r for six niontlis. and then they said thoy would not c'l^'ire lo it. ,-l''ox_u^i wIhi (i\vti ilu- ( nliu- sovereignity ot" the inland, to ask a foreign' I'nwiT for liliTTty lO eany fni jiiristlielion in (UiTTjwm territory, and appoint mag-L^ralxi.s tkerLvuiiljjJlQLiLMlv (|iiil<' nnneeessarv. l)iit a Vijiv ignominious proceeding,'. J.ord (jranville alterwaids actually ask''d tiie Fri'iudi if they" had imj^ohjeclioii l- to i_L They brou;j:ht it in a^i^Min th.e folj owing year, in IHST, Init the Hrilish (jovernmeiit a;;;!!]! refns('d asseiiiralthoiiurh tlu < ioveriior. Sir W. Q.s Vcoux, backed up the Colony in a vi-ry powerful des|Kitch. Loid Knutsford gave as the reason that ih-- IVench objected to it ! \'ery likely, as it was biought in especially to hanij); r them. In the same year, 1HK7, all the Colonial i'renn'ers came over Ikmc, and all the other C'oluni;d Pn-micis snpj)ortcd the Newfoundlanders about this ikn't Act. 'I'he (iovernmrnt gave way, and the Koyal assent was at length given lo the Act, v\hich a few months before was refused. 'J'his JSait Act was brought inl<» force the ne.\l year. Now the herring ar(> found in th(\se twi' '>ays. viz., T'oitiine and Placentia, which are only about JO miles from tne ' inks, in January, three or four weeks earlier tlian on the tpaty shore at St. ( leorg'j's, which is round Cape Kay, which is some '-'(10 miles from the banks, wliere any one can fish. If in these first three or lour weeks the iMeiich cannot get bait in Fortune and I'laceiilia Jiays, then they cannot ;;ei fresh herring at ail. It is certainly true that the I'rench have cat;ghl a species of shell ti.,h on tlie bank wliich serve as bait. It i^ not so good as lln' other bail, and the supply is not unlimited, and mouover it has to be caught in tia]>s, which iakes time and trouble, '"onmrly the French on the banks got all llic bail they wrnied Irorn ilie Vcvifoundland fish, i men. l>ut wln-n that supply was cut nfl" they had to go round Cape Ray to the treaty shore lo catch bait, nearly two hundred miles away, sometimes more; this entailed much, loss of time. A great object is to have the bait fresh, an') ii!i': ii;km II ix VKWioixhi wn. .\llli('i! last Irl! lanco of I!ni;land, it will bi a verv [^i )iid t 1 1 n '. they hail a do/en or fifteiMi steam lannclies uianned bv time-expired 1)1 •ket s, witli a smal but field-i Ue- )icce on board — von uoiild not want to hurt th .f the' first anyone, Init only to put a sliot ihroii^n me main.sa that would not lay to -it \n,>uld create such a scare that bait bloi kad.e nmniii;; would i-ioon cease. ( 'J'here is no tloiibl but that the prevention of the I'Vench <.;iltini; bait froTii the non-treaty shore wouM (lam.i;;e tlu'ir bank fishery (;ni>nnonsly, and y^n fir to ruin it alloLreiher. j Th'' IV'/nch bank fishery is a very valuable commercial fishery, .md -a very valuable nur cry fonluir seamen. .\s 1 have already expiained, il is open to the world. Theo' arc plenty of Americans and Canadians thcii". It i-.-, vahi.ible for seamen lor the j-'reinh Xavy. but not so valuable as it was Mhentho inovcmetils of ships depended on sails and sailors instead of as now on .steam and stokers. Commercially it is very valiiabU , and there are, according: to a Xewfoundkind authority. ]'2,(i(i() men emplov^d on lliese banks and some oCit \e>^( is. ( )n thetnaty siioro the fishery i-- worth very little indeed. 'i'ln're ate oidy now some 7 l'"rencli lishimy sl.'i'Jons. eini)io\"inir some '_'')(• men, where foiineiiy there were moiethan 70. and the \( rv fad tliat they ha\e liwmdled ilown Iroin 70 to 7 shows llvil the lislierv c.in no Ion^;er be a valuable one. .\ I'Veiuh .Vdmiial )>as slated most jtositively that the shore fisheries are a > i,'ood to liie Na\y !)ecaiise the men employed there are broken-down old fellows. About the ye.ir IS'.il.a Fri;nih naval ollicer landed at St. (icor;;.-'s J>av am! p'-evenled our li-^hermeii t'rom seiiin,!^' bait to the .\nieiiians- a most oiitratfeoiis action, which the l''rench (iovernment < vi iitu.tHv disowned and apoloL;ised for. ,'-^ubse(|nently, re;.;nlations were maile resjiectiiiL; the scale of bait at St. ( ieor;;e's; certainlv with the concurrence if not at till! in>ti^-.ition of the home authorities, by which I'lc I'reiich were f^iven a pre-emption in buying bi'fore others. .Moniover, the piice was fixed. This may have beeii convenient, i)iu u was not leLjal, there w.is nothing of ''the open door" about il, for while the door was held open I'oi iho l"'renili, il was slammed in the (mv of ihe \'ankee ;ind tie' Caiiadi.aii. There is anothrr poiii' touching l>.iit. If whit we gave to Franci! at the I're.alv o| 1,'ireehi w.i^ leave ti) prosecnle a cod li.^hiry only, which can be m.iinlained, ikIi, naturally, would carry ])ermissioii to lake the bait uhereuilh to eateh the cod, but this would not p. ■riiiit b,-il to be expori'd for u--e outsiile tre.ily limits. I'he ]''ii'neh .,re j)crmitt"d to cut wood to build si, eves on the treaty shore, but not to i h I iniii Ill; l'KI\(..ll !N Ni:\Vl-olNhI..\M>. 2'.\ •XV- fH (■\|)oil siu'li liml'rr lo St. I'iiriT or ]Mi([iirliiii lo build (iiTiiii;, lU'ilp.iT >li'iiikl ilir r.itch llu: f'h \)V [r llii'l'ij Id!' |>i.'riiiilt(.'ii 111 i'\|)()rl b.iit lo l!ir l-.m'us u> lliai ;ire ilricd on (In il)ovi'-!;n li'.ioin'tl islands. lliiiij^s arc on all Imirs. Jf NcwfonuiUand 1 1,'Ul loi ncd the Domininii of Canai Iv, as sac liould linvi; (lone, slie \\(ju!d nave had a strou^^>r I. hani nis th Iwilisli were i|uiir aware, lni Lord drauvilK-, in a di'spaich relcrrniLi^ to an a}>;ri.HMiu'iil which in ISC'.) ihcrc was an alliMiijil lo niaki' willi I'lamc, said that Uu- sclllcinrnt of llir (jiirstion was prissin.i;, "as iIn ini;: union of Nrufoinulhuul lo ('anada nii!',hl ri-nder ihc <|Ui'siion Us- tractabit' In- increasing the nmnlier and ini|)orlani;e of ihose inUresicd ir "' have Uvaied Xewl'ianhllanii i]»proacli- Oil; I Mil ''■!-'." ci- nu'iiu l'"or liiev dare not ireal Canada a< 'I'licse ladies and ,L,''entlenien, :is i'.ir tibilitie.s of the l''reneli has so iVeqiienlly dominaleil |)owning Struct. I have only one more word lo say. 'J'liere has bi'cn a i\oy.'d Com- mission. We have no reason lo have mueh faitli in tluMn. as thev are often merely appointed b :el ri( 1 of. or postpone, an awkwarti siibjeel Somcliines they are packed, a! other limes they are burked, bui. j hope this one m.iy be an exception to the ride. The oidy thiiiL; now is, what is to be don ■lit stale of thinLjs in Newl,i,i mtu'lil have lioiie sr) re we iroiiu .\r. We going to send Ino more i^cnilemen from the foreign (Jliiee to iiy and make an arra.ie^enient wnh I'rench naval o.le or Cerlaiuh' not ; we liave had ipiite c iionL;h of that. .\re «»• ,^oin,•; to arltilration .^ 1 liojx not, for we are sine lo be done aliogetlier. We inav have lo pa\' tl -omo .\re vf to buy tliem on', thin;' I rememl Not rememi)er ;!l the time of lid lo hiive dritnk ours )nl of th ic "Alabam;'." award, we were .saui lo n;ive urmiK ourseivi ; oiii oi me " .\labama" dilfieiilly. I do not know what the driid; bill will i'e this year. It mav be a lon'j "m.'. and we may b," able to diink oursilves out of the Newfoundland diHienlly. What more is iij l.ii' done .-' Well, ust; (lie weapoti which is in our hands, and use iteflectually -that is, the liait Act. Carry tlie Mail Act out to its utmost limit, and you will more or less ruin the i'reneh bank lisht-ry, which, as I have already said, is very vahiabK!, wlK.'ieas the shore fishin.!; is worth very little indei-d. As the |icop!e of all elas-es .iiul [lolilieal o|iinions have come (o t!ie conclusion thai they an- tir.-d of being put ujion by I'lance in various parts of the earth, ami, what is more, are not y^oing to stand it any longer, we may ho))e lliat this matter will before long be I)roughl to a satisfaelor\- eoneiusion — a eonchision thai will satisfy not only l''rai;c(.', but Xcwfouiidlaiel. •:\ \ I IK MM Nl 'I 1 N M,N^ l'l'>M»l \N'' h i, WW Inrliui lU lliiU h.ivc ui.nv ill llli: ( "I'li ji'il <^l 1'''' M ,,,,,, r.r.iiivillc ov l.ora Kuul^lo 111!', a !r^:!i "' oic'ivi.r, Mr. Chaiiilurlain app-.-ai. a" .IcUT'.uni: aiiil coil Iv UlUU'! i]iu'Sti<>;i, otiiciai -• ;,,,^1 i, not ilu .cloiv rh.' nu V,,rw.-liavrlia>lquitrMOU , lo Kiorou; 'h ot' < 'i()Vi.'nirati;l li;- lc!>lani irrr of liis i.( iinain 1 1 1 ■• 111 CkTl- lo CN) lU ui anv '-I 11 l1 l^ illUioii ol 111'- (lUC lion i1h-. very tl. ihal Ihr 1"'"1 ,lr ol' Ncwloairii and slia. ihi'ir daily Hvoi ;ilioiri wi'liuiit wn ,i. 11, 'oa! inb.Ticr ■ncc. aiii ,; we nave uii ,,• .'.hi.' lo car. 1 ilial {\'x\ ^•l^ loni-n'i'. Ill ;i inainu I ii< ,1, oblij.;alory 1)V Ifcalv. W lull lit -.i and L (H'H 1 CI [\\LV I'V, Ul 111 the intcrc-t- '>'- !i fotcisii l'