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Everybody welcome to soapbox is

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a special edition really my name is Marcus
Wiley I'm the host of the moderator

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Today show really not I'm not concerning
myself to host today is the moderator

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because we have an informative panel
discussion if you will decision to run or not

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Dot com And each time you wish to I want
to first of all welcome my my guests city

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clerk David Rushford for joining us here
today Paula cava Who what do you do in

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these are you doing a little
bit of everything you're

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a professor you're staying out of trouble
Mr Levy's keep me out of trouble guidance

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from Mr Rushford you
know so thanks guys so

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a little bit here at the courthouse
yes what are you doing there not as

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a client not as a court
right. Stable him doing

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a wonderful job for most county Absolutely
and of course the the inimitable Mr

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Jordan Levy for the. Guys like good was
good to see you all and thank you David for

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taking time I know this is your mouth
getting ready for this there's been

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a redistricting issues going on so you
have your attention all over the place the

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time a few more yeah absolutely this is

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a year for the council to run school
committee mayor council now the purposes of

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today's program is you know this was
actually an idea Jordan brought to my

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attention he said you know why
not talk about something have

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a program we can of an educational value
relative. Running for office so we decided

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let's let's do this and let's what can
we do to you know to train people so to

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speak give them an idea about what's
what's involved in running for any office

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really but if you want we can focus on
the local office I think that might be

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appropriate to see we're in

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a you know that year for the for the council
to run for example so and in this way

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I want to say that at the outset here
that's what the program is for it's not

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necessarily. What's the word I'm
looking for is it also endorse anyone

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OK because because I know Paul you considering
running I just want to know you're

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not OK Oh OK I just want to get that out
there because I I heard that you may have

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been so well after talking with former
mayor here made me back to my senses

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OK not all the time it's all timing and
Paul said some things with his life that

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have changed of where he is. You know for
on because when you run for public office

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you have to have

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a clear mind and you have to give one
hundred percent there's no other way around

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those things if not capable
of doing that to do yourself

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a favor don't run yeah you're
not in that and that's

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a great way to start the program of the
decision to run and not to run. You know

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why why even run in the first place. Well
let me start off and I tell you what

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captures because they did was with me when
I first ran in Paul and I've known each

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other a long time there's got to be
something more than I want to be

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a city council or school committee person
and that's one of the problems we've seen

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in the past number of years about the
quality of the candidates and run and the

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lack of candidates that run because
they don't they don't really have

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a mission of what purpose do they want
everyone wants to run that is why you go to

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. Everyone wants to serve we all say
the same thing that's going to be

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a driving force behind you want to make
changes but what changes and I think that

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discourse has been lacking I think the the
fundamentalist fundamentals of what it

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takes to run for office has been lacking
the courthouse I think the quality

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candidates have been lacking
Yeah so what do we will have

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a funny of quality candidates I remember
one joke has been home Sturm. And senior

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in the day to me were statesmen they would
diplomats they work for the betterment

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of the city they were able to
come to consensus they had

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a purpose of why they wanted to effectuate
change and they had differences did not

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. Isolate them in any one camp one corner
in take away from the entire process and

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I'm not sure. If we did if we're there
today with the types of candidates and

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types of officeholders we have Yeah now
you know Gray Davis is there's an awful

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Jordan is correct I mean in
running for public office is

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a great deal of give There's
not a lot of take there's

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a time commitment from people who want
to run for office and then after you are

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successful if you if you are successful is
the time commitment involved in speaking

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to the constituency on a
continuing basis to to be

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a clearing house for people's problems
complaints and concerns and of course the

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commitment of time in public meetings is
not to be underestimated. People who have

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young children should be considerate of the
fact that nights out of the house. The

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week as well as attending social events
on the weekend is all part of public

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service it's a lot of give you not
a lot of take back it really is

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a commitment and when you say
that people kind of look at you

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a little strange if you step back after
you've made that commitment you do some

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soul searching because you really want to
know why did you give so much of yourself

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because what you take away is from others
to take away from your children you take

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away from your spouse or from your friends
because you really have to do this job

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you have to totally commit because people
will demand certain things and if you

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fail to make that commitment then you just
not with the success you know there's

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a lot to this it's more than running. So
it's so do you have any do you have any

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regrets about about that oh yes I have I
have regrets of I wish I spent more time I

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guess I wish I'd spent more time my wife
I wish I could win with time my friends

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but I on the other side I'll flip that
pancake weight over and say boy I like it

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I'm lucky I've been you know people people
have become part of my family I've met

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people that I never would met before I was
able to help people I know I've helped

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people I've reached out to
the people who didn't have

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a voice I was there for them so I have
received much more than I gave from so many

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people but everyone has regrets and
everything we do in life where whether you're

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running this radio or television station
or whether one's in private industry

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suffer regrets do the assets outweigh
the negatives Absolutely I think public

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office is

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a great experience of anyone could have
been. Now you know you mentioned earlier

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you mentioned there's

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a certain quality of statesman like qualities
and you mentioned some names earlier

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of people that really could affect
change and they had a mission and

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a purpose is there

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a commonality between those types of
people that that I'm missing now is

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a certain background prerequisite that
vision may be missing think they had

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a vision I think they were grounded in
why they were running and I think they

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really hear about the city I believe the
office holders today care about the city I

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think at times that they don't have

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a unified vision. And it's very splintered
type of approach but the challenges

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today in Georgia we're talking about
that earlier the challenges today much

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different than one thousand nine hundred
one thousand nine hundred eighty nine

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hundred seventy and it takes it takes more
work on their part to to unify to to go

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forward from. I think an individual
really has to have as drug and said some

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burning desire to want to contribute to
the community if you don't have that then

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you're not going to be in it for the long
run and I think we're finding that there

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a great deal to talk about in Wester So if
an individual out there has. Been area of

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interest I think is lacking on the
eleven member body now might be

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a good time to jump in but you have to weigh
all of the factors the time commitment

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the money that's needed to be raised to
run for public office and the fact that

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it's not you know getting

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a little bit late in the year to be on the
ballot for September sort of preliminary

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in the November election tomorrow there's

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a couple of the just quick things here
number one it's all changed when I first

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read in one thousand we started running
in one nine hundred seventy four I was

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elected nine hundred seventy five dollars
on November of seventy four I served I

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was sworn in seventy five. That's like
going to go the way we were we were in

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totally grassroots totally door to door
neighborhood to neighborhood no one knew

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anything we were all babes in the woods
we just motivated people but there were

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issues with revaluation there was

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a tax and spend things so nothing changes
but the media was different back then and

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I'm not not not in the media I'm part of
the media so I'm not knocking them but you

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have a twenty four hour news cycle now
even wish to believe it or not because

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a lot of things are streamed
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a gotcha press so you know the press was

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a lot of time the personal backgrounds
of personal life styles of people in

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a lot of good people out there is another
subject my family to this not going to

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get out there and you know be an open book
that wasn't part of what life was about

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we have the advantage of you know bob and
weave rumors that would people put out

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they would try to destroy you but it's
different and so I'm not sure they were

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great statesman Paul back then the really
different than the kind of people we have

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today I think the portrayal as been so
negative and people elective office for so

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long not with the media that good people
just don't want to step into the fray and

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it's not necessary is it not why. I think
it's necessary I'll fight you fight on

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the floor of the council want to have

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a ban right let me we can do that we can
have those discussions back that we don't

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have anymore as mayor judge would
do that I work for the ministry the

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administration during that period of time
and we did have some knockdown fights. In

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the council chamber walking out of the
council chamber. We were friends we had very

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serious talks about how to move to City
had to leave with the battle that took

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place in the chamber in the chamber you
leave it right there you go home you wish

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all the other things daily I would
talk the next day and we do

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a recap of what happened at the council
meeting last night you know where was I

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what good good things did we do what good
things that we did so we were confident

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with each other and we built that kind
of relationship when we look at the self

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introspective look I don't see that happening
up there anymore what individuals you

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have an eleven individuals on Tuesday
night on the council side and seven

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individuals of the school committee tries
are all go to different directions and

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they tend to hold that little bit of a
grudge after work yeah I think there's

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a lot of bad friction I think and they
were really going to be the butt you know

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the baton leader up there and then you
know the council's going to change

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dramatically with the consequence of going
out of there because like I don't like

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and he's a fall leader they don't have

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a full leader right now so when people
have an opportunity you know get off your

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duff it is a little late
it is and it is late

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a lot so when when should it when should
have people made their decision to resign

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is there are a lot of people who are
community activist who would serve

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a great function being in an elected office
it's almost like the next step in their

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progression and being

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a fully integrated member of the you know
the committee as of the community but

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there are many people as Jordan said the
media tend to be in this gotcha mode there

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are many people I've spoken with over the
course of the last several years trying

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to encourage them to be more involved
they're well spoken that their passion for

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their neighborhood issues they have passion
for environmental issues they have

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years of experience working on
either a board or a commission or

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a neighborhood organization and I actually
have people who push back and it's you

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know no no I wouldn't subject myself to
that I would subject my family to that. So

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there has to be a little bit of a softening
as far as the media giving people

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a break let's embrace the idea that people
bring many different positions and and

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experiences to elective office and give
people an opportunity to bring those

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forward so it's probably more I mean it's
got to be related to just the the economy

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itself people so many media channels out
there ones fighting for attention so

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they're going to go for the lowest common
denominator is not the media's fault it's

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yesterday's fault because they lack ideas
everyone runs on the same promise of

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change I'm running on change Yeah right
yeah I have changed my pocket you don't

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have three quarters and two nickels I mean
you know what change what specific thing

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do you want to do when I read the nine
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came out and we had

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a platform we had I think fifty thousand
times David that we distributed around the

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city was

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a platform there were actually things that
I put down in black and white that we

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did when we sat down in the side What changes
did we want to make I want to change

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the form of government nine hundred seventy
four and I said so well you know people

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like that I didn't like that you know we
wanted to do things in taxes we want to do

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some things with spending I'm telling this
was in one nine hundred seventy four so

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people could pick me apart if they wanted
in the campaign other people just put

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their name out there we didn't do that we
went out and told people we're going to

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do it and then when I got in office I tried
to do it and that's lacking out there

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with it even when it's it's not really
makea they have these ideas but they still

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tell anybody and that's why they don't have
organization that's because they're not

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ready they don't know what it takes
to take the job there's been

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a lot of criticism and is
this related I mean I hear

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a lot of criticism today where you see
people say well they seem to be rubber

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stamping the city manager for example
is that is that because there's

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a lack of ideas are is it
just that he's just batting

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a thousand right now I mean what is really
what's the reality about what do you see

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I think it takes in my in my opinion I
think takes some courage to bring out

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different positions. And
live and die by your wind X.

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Amount you can lose six months similar as
the resident requirement that the mayor

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cover mayor is putting out there
the other thing I think is

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a common. Tug of war between administration
and elected body given our form of of

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government and you know I think is Jordan
mentioned it's been twenty thirty M.

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Span to say is this the right way to go
and push Do we need that political leader

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that can hawk the state national institutions
to our agenda in the community at the

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same time do we have that manager that is

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a business minded person. That can run

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a fiscal when I need to say that Michael
Bryant is doing wonderful job with the

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fiscal budget city but that
leaves a lot of room for ideal

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a lot of room for debate

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a lot of room for agreement and disagreement
candidates need to come forward and

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bring up that

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a gender I believe yeah you know we did it
we did some editing once for Congressman

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McGovern he wanted to take. George
McGovern's visit to Worcester and he gave

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a speech this was years ago and about in
the platform he was presenting you know

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it's like we're going to do this for the
for the schools we're going to do this for

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the for the cities that you could take
that same. Videotape and play it today put

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someone else's face on it and it's the
same issues that keep coming up over one

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hundred seventy four campaign and we could
talk about the same issues yet you know

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a lot of this stuff has been out there
were no one does anything about this the

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point is that is that is that nothing is
prohibiting people from running the link

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that I think

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a lot of people see that the only prize
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and then the lifetime career as

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a politician forever the the dialogues he
actually in conversation is as important

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to the community there are so many people
who don't sit in one of the eleven seats

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and never have but they bring

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a great deal of talent and discussion and
thought provoking discussion to local

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issues and those are many times the best
pressure possible for those who are an

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elective office so running is one
thing but being in office is

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a completely different story and when and
when we would when we ran it was five

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thousand dollars out who no benefits it's
not a bad job right now that we get paid

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a thirty thousand they have

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a retirement and they get health insurance
so I mean the self perpetuation of

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getting reelected is critically important
so you never take too many diverse

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opinions out that are going to tick off
to other people because if things are all

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up in the era where the bridge is going
to solve you know you're not going to

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polarize too many people you're going to
patronize your base and I think that mass

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dialogue connects challenge
that's ideas not to go off into

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a different tangent but is that does that
mean it would be better to go to with

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more. Control term term limit not have

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a term which I what I think
we should do which I've been

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a kid of days ago challenges that was what
people shouldn't be afraid to run for

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office right with the fear of losing
because it is about the dialogue and ideas

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running about the running the first time
doesn't mean you have to be successful

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Jordan ran and was successful
many people have run

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a second or third time when to end up
being great contributors to the public

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dialogue but even once you win it shouldn't
matter if if you have those ideas like

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Jordan was talking of my few have ideas
to make change and it's just not going to

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it's not successful. That shouldn't I mean
you got you might lose the next election

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but at least you got your point out there
you know sort of jump into the so much of

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this because it you know Paul talked
about when he was working for the

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administration at that time like
that people thought you know I had

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a big mouth I do

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a big mouth and people thought that I was
argument of and I was I came in the but I

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was passionate I really believed
in what I had to do it wasn't

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a part on I end up to be the most popular
politician during my tenure because

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people even that didn't agree with me
respected the fact that I was taking on the

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positions I was talking about the issues
but I never attacked the issue of I didn't

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have a resolution to it so what
they do now they get a person

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a little contest going on up there but
they don't have any answers to anything so

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this is wide open for new candidates if
they if they have the backbone they have

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they gotten they got the stomach and they
have the willpower to get up there and

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mix them up people want to bait they want
debate they want the issues debated I

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think this is

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a perfect time for people to run for
office even though it's like I think the

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public I think the public
has an opportunity in

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a responsibility to get much more engaged
in where they are at this present time

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and I think if we walk again today we know
this much better with the statistics if

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we look at the statistics of turnout in
the past relative to the problems and

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challenges we have I think the public is
shirking their responsibility to make the

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elected officials more accountable and I
agree with Jordan that you don't need term

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limits if you have

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a very active and gauge public because
they will dictate what they want as

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a community and I think chill up until this
time this point that is missing in was

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to politics I think there's

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a misnomer out there amongst the
public that you have to have

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a whole closet full of new ideas to be

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a candidate and that's not necessarily
correct Jordan is an ideas person Jordan had

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a campaign slogan way back in the seventy's
that said Jordan Levy kids Jordan Levy

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can help and what that mom. Auto
says is that we might already have

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a raft of laws and ordinances and policies
and procedures in place somebody needs

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to make certain that those are carried
out affectively they might just need

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tweaking you don't have to
be an ideas person to be

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a great contributor we might have already
the best garbage pick up and leave

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sweeping in street plowing program in the
world but someone has to continue the

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effort it's feet to the fire as these
guys have both said the idea is that the

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issues of thirty forty years ago this still
with us local government is not about

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reinventing the wheel it's about providing
direct public service over and over and

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over again and doing it perhaps more
efficiently cost effectively with better

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customer service and people's input but
it doesn't necessarily change the street

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still need to be swept the lights still
need to come on the police still need to do

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their thing so being of in effect of. Being
affected on the board of directors that

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is the city council might just involve
taking the existing rules and laws and

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keeping the feet to the fire those of us
who are actually employed to carry us so

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that could be

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a platform for someone they could say you
know I'm just what I like what's going on

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I want to make sure it's there that
could technically be tweak it there

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a caring person you know your neighborhood
Well you know you you know you

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constituents you might have a good
background in business you might have

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a good back to pick background and community
activism you also have to be ready to

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run that means you don't reinvent yourself
during the campaign David so right on

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the mark and what he just said but you
have to have you DON'T of for instance if

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you're just going to tweak the street sweeper
program all you got it won't talk to

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the campaign about what you're going to do
with the street sweeping program this is

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not on the job training you got to get
ready before you decide to run that up on

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the stand in

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a small budget you're going to know where
you go after you've got to go after the

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types of services you're going to tell
people how you like to make them better

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you've got to go out and support the things
that are good you want to advocate for

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those but you've got to go out there and
identify yourself my God. I mean I've had

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these people on my show these candidates
I'm not going to do it this election

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because they are it's the most boring
fifteen twenty minute interview because he

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also said that they were on the take but
everybody going to be careful to say the

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same thing everyone wants change up every
morning I change or change my underwear

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or my clothes you know what sort of

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a you know we've had this coming year we're
going to have the Universe twenty fifth

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anniversary of district representation
in the city council being

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a district city council is

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a very much different job than being in
that large council and I think that people

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running for office really should
know that difference that

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a person who represents one fifth of the
city nit knows to needs to know intimately

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the neighborhoods that are involved
in that district where is the has

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a bigger vision macro vision of the city
and its problems where its direction is

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going second our development so there are
two different types of people one city

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council so it isn't just one thought
process that goes into running for elected

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office locally I also think we have to have
a discussion in this city and if I was

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a candidate running one of my
prime platforms would be to have

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a discussion about the charter of the
city of Washington this China has to be

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review with the

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a change from the form of government or
you don't that China has not effect of

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charter as it is it's all it's stale and
it has to be updated it would be one of

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the major issues and I would talk about
as you look at District representation it

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look at that model representation you
look at polarisation and look at the

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demographics you look at the needs of the
city not when five years and ten years

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from now this Chahta has to be looked at
again and it shouldn't be revolutionary so

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we should make it between
up the manager in

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a strongly official would take you know
five six years to go through the process

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listen to the legislative move
but the reticence to really have

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a discussion but one of the the book The
End of the city this is nuts is there is

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there

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a chance for him being away twenty five
years old yeah because the mayor. Could

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hold many titles in redefine roles that
could all be from the president to I mean

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you know of the contents of the
strong mayor of this of that if I was

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a strike first elected mayor it was it
wasn't an effect of period of change of the

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city or is it

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a misnomer and it has continued to perpetuate
this misnomer three Mariano to Mari

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Conny move. And now of Joel
Bryan I mean are we doing

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a disservice having the structure as it is
right now that's what's going to have an

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America it's

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a ceremony it's one of eleven you know
it's one of eleven votes but and I need to

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give Jordan some credit because when I
worked for the administration. We did not

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want to really identify that we had gang
problems at one time the city was done in

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no to the power is ceremonial and in
oversight of the council the agenda so forth

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and so on it can also set the course of
public policy and the gang problem was one

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of the bigger if people look back twenty
years of discussion that was brought

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forward through Jordan and the Council
pushing the administration to come to terms

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with the problem that we had and it
gave at that time cheap Gardella some

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opportunity to bring some preventive types
of programs you know least keep our city

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within check we're not absent
that problem today but that was

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a mayor council push relative to public
policy and I think myself personally our

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council need to do much more public policy
facing given the challenges we face as

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a community and so then do you need need
any special requisite for that twenty to

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be an attorney do I need you know to have
some certain background for this guy you

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you've held a view you need to have

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a heart he need to know the local the you
need to know contemporarily what this

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city is comprised of are we a college town
are we a city of working people are we

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a city where people actually reside but
travel to to work in one twenty eight and

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four ninety five I we have

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a combination of all of those things are
we have place for many different ethnic

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groups are we or what are we what do we
want to be polished correct Jordan's

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correct setting policy is the job of
this board of directors that is the city

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council moving forward that's the crux of
the discussion and these take place so

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whether even whether you win
or lose if you've instigated

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a conversation that's that's that's what's
very important and that highlights the

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fact why you need dialogue why you need
to have these this kind of validated talk

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of the forums and right before the
time and the legal move overs as

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a forum no one shows up of the League
of Women Voters you might carry to your

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station we might carry it live in Austin.
Everyone changes the church when they

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hear that they don't want to hear me I
can I can you know I mean well we could

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become kind of the fuel has become kind
of jaded It's like they're just going to

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promote themselves not as it is right as
we see the negative side we see seldom

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actually going to trial to matter he just
drags down everybody that's in public

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office to the lowest common denominator
because they the purpose comes across

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everyone's

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a crock but we know some people are corrupt
but the majority people I've dealt with

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in public office and for almost forty years
now have been on this Todd working men

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and women that really give a damn
about who they serve. Then did

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a lot of play kids

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a voter to discern the turnout was that
what was the last turn out there that's an

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interesting B M twenty twenty and twenty
five percent and you know in this

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morning's media there was

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a study that was just released talked
about the fact that younger people have

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fallen. Victim by their own deed to
what is called Social autism and it

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doesn't have anything to do with clinical
autism it has to do with the lack of

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engagement of so many people and that is

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a very big problem we are people who have
vested interests in the future of the

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city the homeowners the taxpayers their
children the school system there all the

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people who want to say community to live
in and they are disengaged everyone is so

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busy doing this and on
the web that there is

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a lack of engagement civically
and that term that is

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a very big problem someone who can motivate
people to become civically involved

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whether it's through neighborhood
organizations Crimewatch groups religious

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organizations this is what we really need
we need people who are willing to get out

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there reengage the public so that the job
of government becomes something that

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everybody is a majority a concern and
that's where the Tea Party concept has such

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a wonderful concept forget the
National Tea Party but here's what's

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a group of people that all of

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a sudden want to get involved and they
come with Do you agree with them you don't

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agree with them left or right it makes no
difference the problem they have is that

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they identify themselves as one philosophy
but if they just did that far of

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a broader philosophy and then could motivate
and bring people to the to the to the

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point of taking out nomination papers
getting behind that kind of candidate you

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know much of that sort of process you
know doing the door to door I mean no one

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understands how they want to resist so
it's not walking its neighborhoods that we

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walk the neighborhoods you know Jordan
you know interesting in the statement in

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flashing back to college campuses back in
the late sixty's and seventy's and they

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were in the protest the massive amount
of young adults that would come out if.

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Protest the war on Vietnam so if you say
no we're going to we're going to go this

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is special edition we're going to go
longer today so we hear the music that's

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usually the the cutoff point but I just
want to tell the viewers You're watching

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other C.C.T.V.

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a Special edition of soapbox we're continuing
nonstop so we're going to keep going

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right through with the show why it is

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a year because we're keeping on going to
pick up on that go ahead I'm sorry and

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like this you know you look back and you
would see that social movement on the

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campuses relative to the issues that were
most important to them today we have some

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significant was going on we have significant
issues you do not in my opinion see

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that type of energy movement on the
campuses of trying to affect change on the

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macro level and I think with Dave said it
goes all the way down to the micro level

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in our neighborhoods we're is the movement
for change. Well the lot of it there is

435
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conversation out there I guess
that I'm dating myself by casting

436
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a blanket over everything there are plenty
of blogs out there that will give you

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conversation but there's

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00:29:19,51 --> 00:29:24,05
a big problem with that blogs are
anonymous blogs are hateful blogs have no

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00:29:24,06 --> 00:29:27,58
accountability right when you come
out as a community activist or

440
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a person wants to be involved in

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00:29:28,79 --> 00:29:33,43
a community you you have an identity you're
out in the community it's physical it's

442
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not virtual They had to
have virtual involvement is

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a cop out and it will not benefit this
community in the long run to effectuate

444
00:29:40,06 --> 00:29:44,92
policy with reference to the involvement
of colleges and was done to talk about

445
00:29:44,96 --> 00:29:48,32
community policing and the effectiveness
and the deployment of police and fire

446
00:29:48,33 --> 00:29:51,28
throughout the city that's something that
doesn't take place in a blog because

447
00:29:51,29 --> 00:29:51,75
a blog is

448
00:29:51,76 --> 00:29:56,42
a hit whack somebody get off go do something
different and that does that doesn't

449
00:29:56,43 --> 00:30:00,03
serve an end result you want so much for
speaking from their own experiences

450
00:30:00,04 --> 00:30:03,56
individually David talking really about
the district council as well you know if

451
00:30:03,57 --> 00:30:07,82
you don't run you hope to be mayor Rob or
whatever you going to do you got to go

452
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out there and identify the neighborhood
needs of the people's needs and remember

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00:30:11,28 --> 00:30:15,74
the the time that we spent in great value
in the disappointment the first night of

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the special of the September primary when
we came in I think it was thirty six

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people on the ballot I think at that time
and I think we came in like seventeen and

456
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I had eleven votes we spent like three days
in the valley got eleven votes or seven

457
00:30:27,85 --> 00:30:32,75
votes or whatever it was but you know
something someone had to represent the voice

458
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and you have people going to go out
there so I think you know if people are

459
00:30:36,21 --> 00:30:40,10
thinking about running just you know get
out there we're just don't run I mean

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00:30:40,11 --> 00:30:44,24
you've got to you've got to move around
you've got to talk about the issues forget

461
00:30:44,25 --> 00:30:48,64
the forget the the blogs in the the
technical things that that's how you put

462
00:30:48,65 --> 00:30:51,54
together the campaign
organization the Internet is

463
00:30:51,55 --> 00:30:54,72
a great vehicle to identify
voters make sure you do

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00:30:54,73 --> 00:30:59,43
a voter poll get them all to the polls do
all those things but if you don't go out

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in top issues. And force the debate if
you're waiting for the media to force the

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00:31:05,50 --> 00:31:10,78
debate it's not happening the candidates
have to force at the big challenges I just

467
00:31:10,79 --> 00:31:14,56
don't understand why people run for city
council and school committee and don't

468
00:31:14,57 --> 00:31:18,83
challenge the company well look into
eventually individually they pick out pick out

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00:31:18,84 --> 00:31:23,03
a couple of councillors who are doing their
job or even in the last the statewide.

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Elections you have people doing that and
some people just didn't want to show up

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00:31:28,58 --> 00:31:31,88
with that's fine you know then you have an
empty chair on the stage and you debate

472
00:31:31,89 --> 00:31:36,22
you want the chair I mean you do theatrical
but you know something you do something

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. But no one wants to they want to
be listed as one of six votes for

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a lodge so you don't want to lose Paul's
vote you know David's vote to keep

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everybody happy so we're happy to Lopes
Yeah you want to because people go out

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00:31:50,35 --> 00:31:55,35
twenty five percent remember his name and
people still think I'm running from that

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and I just gave

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a vote and I leave the voting but no I do
and this is what I will count on strong.

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Watch

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a graph you're going to put you know I mean
that's very savvy and I said today the

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one living the walk we have been on the
ballot you want to yes yeah but that's

482
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a big there is you know that's one of the
big differences I think when you talk

483
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about how it's changed over the years is
this the social media I love that term is

484
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the social autism because a lot of people
are just focused on this one thing it's

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a virtual world but there's

486
00:32:22,67 --> 00:32:26,83
a good and bad about that as you point
out you can use this media to maybe pull

487
00:32:26,84 --> 00:32:30,27
people to get the word out but
on the other hand it is in

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a way it's disconnecting people when you
think it be connecting people it's not

489
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really what is the last time

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a candidate want to say because
the school committee sent out

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a question the it to the voters about issues
that were important to them. I mean I

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put in

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a my top you can do this for less money
today than you could do when he was back

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00:32:47,55 --> 00:32:51,09
when we were there and you go out there and
try to find out what really people want

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00:32:51,10 --> 00:32:54,08
to say if nothing more
it would be a hell of

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00:32:54,09 --> 00:32:59,36
a campaign beginning point of reaching out
to people and say hey you know here's my

497
00:32:59,37 --> 00:33:03,19
four thoughts do you agree or disagree with
this and when you put in your comments

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00:33:03,20 --> 00:33:07,86
below and get some interest from the colleges
I mean David knocked on my door what

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i for us and we did not know David and he
didn't one of the move in with us forever

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00:33:12,34 --> 00:33:15,18
but anyway it was you know not that
it was a you know me and he was just

501
00:33:15,19 --> 00:33:20,01
a young man I think it was eighteen years
old is I want to work for him and we had

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00:33:20,02 --> 00:33:24,33
Dave if you remember this is not about me
but it but it's an interesting microcosm

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00:33:24,34 --> 00:33:27,12
of what could happen today
we had we did not have

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00:33:27,13 --> 00:33:30,46
a standing up person in Iraq in this nation
and know how to work in the campaign

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00:33:31,02 --> 00:33:35,23
but John they have to be people out there
in two thousand and eleven who have

506
00:33:35,62 --> 00:33:40,10
either disenfranchisement from
the local scene or they have

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00:33:40,11 --> 00:33:43,60
a burning interest for something in the
neighborhood and want to come forward come

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00:33:43,61 --> 00:33:48,36
so it's our job to say to people this is
how you do it how how do we include Kate

509
00:33:48,37 --> 00:33:52,69
that in people in this day and age do they
see that fundraising is something they

510
00:33:52,70 --> 00:33:56,56
can't possibly accomplish do they see the
bookkeeping that's involved in running

511
00:33:56,57 --> 00:33:59,82
for office as something they
can't overcome they don't have

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00:33:59,83 --> 00:34:01,87
a talent or they don't have

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00:34:01,88 --> 00:34:06,54
a connection to somebody who will help them
with that. They need to be an infusion

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00:34:06,55 --> 00:34:09,68
of young people who are going to take over
and responsible for what happens in our

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00:34:09,69 --> 00:34:13,78
neighborhoods and in our schools you know
we haven't talked about schools but my

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00:34:13,79 --> 00:34:16,67
God if there's less energy and
running for office it's it's

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00:34:16,68 --> 00:34:21,00
a disease with this with the school school
vs school community we sometimes have

518
00:34:21,01 --> 00:34:27,78
a is. An inability to get more than the
basic six who are going to be serious

519
00:34:27,79 --> 00:34:31,75
candidates for school committee when they
occupy sixty to sixty five percent of the

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00:34:31,76 --> 00:34:36,91
budget locally that's an absolutely amazing
lack of interest in everything and

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00:34:36,92 --> 00:34:40,51
again they get the last of the media
attention I think and of endless schools an

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00:34:40,52 --> 00:34:47,18
interesting point and we all come to
children in school. Minorities the bulk

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00:34:48,15 --> 00:34:53,42
and one of the lowest turnout in our
community protect us from the minority

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00:34:53,43 --> 00:34:55,11
community and I think there needs to be

525
00:34:55,12 --> 00:34:59,74
a lot of engagement and I think. Ten years
from now the city which is going to be

526
00:34:59,75 --> 00:35:04,40
quite different but the transition we've
spent on living fortune of time and energy

527
00:35:04,41 --> 00:35:08,89
and resources into the minority community
to get them to register to vote into

528
00:35:08,90 --> 00:35:14,04
Among it is perpetuates itself over and
over and over again this has to come from

529
00:35:14,05 --> 00:35:17,83
within the community and community has
to rise in the leadership within the

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00:35:17,84 --> 00:35:21,90
community if there's leadership in that
community has got to the side that not of

531
00:35:21,91 --> 00:35:23,72
the get out of poverty and get out and get

532
00:35:23,73 --> 00:35:28,25
a fish caught in this community the change
of color has to take place and that has

533
00:35:28,26 --> 00:35:32,12
to come from within the community David
Rushford took over the election commission

534
00:35:32,13 --> 00:35:34,03
and does it as has done more of

535
00:35:34,04 --> 00:35:40,35
a voter registration and reaching out into
the minority community than ever before

536
00:35:40,36 --> 00:35:45,41
his predecessor work on that but you know
we still see divorce or not we still see

537
00:35:45,42 --> 00:35:50,52
five six seven percent of the action in
the comes out it's growing it has to come

538
00:35:50,53 --> 00:35:54,15
from the within the community or it doesn't
it's not going to happen doesn't it

539
00:35:54,16 --> 00:35:59,01
just boggle your mind that people who have
the most of the biggest vested interest

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00:35:59,36 --> 00:36:02,82
people have students in the school system
they don't vote we don't see them voting

541
00:36:02,89 --> 00:36:06,13
right and I just think I just
don't see why is there not

542
00:36:06,14 --> 00:36:11,04
a connection between participation at the
voting booth and people's result in the

543
00:36:11,05 --> 00:36:13,54
classroom why is it that it's always

544
00:36:13,55 --> 00:36:17,64
a we versus them attitude and lack of what
not but has there been any poll to that

545
00:36:17,65 --> 00:36:20,87
to that nature I mean is that is that
people work it's the reality make it you

546
00:36:20,88 --> 00:36:21,15
don't need

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00:36:21,16 --> 00:36:26,46
a whole to discern there's no excuse there's
no excuse I wonder also we have many

548
00:36:26,47 --> 00:36:30,39
immigrants coming here from different types
of governments different countries and

549
00:36:30,40 --> 00:36:35,44
I want to go back to the charter when I
worked for the city it was interesting the

550
00:36:35,45 --> 00:36:39,79
number of people within the minority community
look at the mayor as the person that

551
00:36:39,80 --> 00:36:46,77
ran the city he or she was the all power
in our government because that's the type

552
00:36:46,78 --> 00:36:51,69
of government they did come from and I
think some of it going back to the child

553
00:36:51,70 --> 00:36:57,53
review I think it needs to be looked at how
do we engage all communities how do you

554
00:36:57,53 --> 00:37:00,64
. No but we did then we took

555
00:37:00,65 --> 00:37:04,50
a position where you just heard the child
to have certain proof of precluding

556
00:37:05,22 --> 00:37:09,46
responsibilities we were not we talked about
that but we also represent the people

557
00:37:09,77 --> 00:37:10,79
you know we had

558
00:37:10,80 --> 00:37:15,31
a bully pulpit but we were now in made
sure that what we stood for was what the

559
00:37:15,32 --> 00:37:20,25
people wanted so I was an advocate and I
think that's OK you have to become an

560
00:37:20,26 --> 00:37:24,26
advocate because each kid would run out
of left field and you don't come up with

561
00:37:24,27 --> 00:37:28,70
some bird brained idea that is not relevant
to the quality of life for the people

562
00:37:28,71 --> 00:37:31,43
the city of Washington but you're going
to go out there we go inside the

563
00:37:31,44 --> 00:37:36,72
communities and be intently back for
them but you know David Rushford as

564
00:37:36,73 --> 00:37:39,38
a city for us in head of the
Election Commission there's

565
00:37:39,39 --> 00:37:43,19
a clearinghouse folks out there that if you
want to run for public office you have

566
00:37:43,23 --> 00:37:47,17
any questions whatsoever I mean we have
one of the pieces of you put that show to

567
00:37:47,18 --> 00:37:51,50
the other was how do people run when you
know this guy's got the fortunes of

568
00:37:51,51 --> 00:37:56,24
knowledge and over this is what one learning
moment right now another you know and

569
00:37:56,25 --> 00:37:59,78
I'm going to tell people to go back to
up I mean this is clearly house and he's

570
00:37:59,79 --> 00:38:05,76
going to the system that is fantastic up
there so people don't have to fear one of

571
00:38:05,77 --> 00:38:10,12
the regulations one of the rules David
has committed I'm not propping him up he

572
00:38:10,13 --> 00:38:15,56
just does this wonderful work he has made
it accessible people don't have to fear

573
00:38:15,92 --> 00:38:19,47
card because something is a former
elected official that's have

574
00:38:19,48 --> 00:38:23,70
a cup of coffee with them sit down with
them be off to take their ideas what's it

575
00:38:23,71 --> 00:38:26,00
like to go to the library there's

576
00:38:26,01 --> 00:38:31,14
a graphic of information at the Public
Library. And maybe even the League of Women

577
00:38:31,15 --> 00:38:32,71
Voters I don't know how active they are

578
00:38:32,72 --> 00:38:35,93
a little bit tsunami clearing house
of the league actually held up pretty

579
00:38:35,94 --> 00:38:37,98
successful. Run

580
00:38:37,99 --> 00:38:42,33
a not run format but at the library it's
the second or third time they've done it

581
00:38:42,34 --> 00:38:45,82
we participate in that Josh we do know
and you know our office actually is our

582
00:38:45,83 --> 00:38:47,79
representative and we do see

583
00:38:47,80 --> 00:38:51,19
a number of people putting their foot
in the water trying to find out this is

584
00:38:51,20 --> 00:38:55,52
something that is good for them so there
are glimmers of hope and would join with

585
00:38:55,53 --> 00:39:00,32
your encouragement on the radio and Paul.
You from the you know the trenches having

586
00:39:00,51 --> 00:39:04,82
feelers out there all throughout the
community I hope I hope that we do see some

587
00:39:04,93 --> 00:39:08,92
new people coming forward at least for
the discussion and least to engage the

588
00:39:08,93 --> 00:39:11,17
public in what goes on within
the city government is

589
00:39:11,18 --> 00:39:15,36
a five hundred million dollar budget and
no one should ever run unopposed no one

590
00:39:15,37 --> 00:39:19,19
should ever run unopposed. Now
let's say you know you're getting

591
00:39:19,20 --> 00:39:23,54
a market I know why I want to run and I've
discerned the fact that OK it's not it's

592
00:39:23,55 --> 00:39:25,89
not just a stepping stone
I'm not looking for

593
00:39:25,90 --> 00:39:29,84
a career but I have these issues and this
is what I sincerely want to run for what

594
00:39:29,85 --> 00:39:33,95
happens then but what's the next what's the
first step I need to do I think people

595
00:39:33,96 --> 00:39:35,06
need to get together around

596
00:39:35,07 --> 00:39:37,56
a table with some people they might rely
on that we're going to help them to get

597
00:39:37,57 --> 00:39:43,39
the message out nobody can work singularly
you need to have your eyes ideas bounced

598
00:39:43,40 --> 00:39:47,30
off of people find out if they resonate
then come to City Hall come to the

599
00:39:47,31 --> 00:39:52,09
elections office on the second floor talk
with Joshua about the requirements what

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00:39:52,10 --> 00:39:56,95
signature requirements are there for the
particular office we'll put you in touch

601
00:39:56,96 --> 00:39:57,97
with the office a campaign

602
00:39:57,98 --> 00:40:02,40
a political finance talk about talk to
them about setting up your depository

603
00:40:02,41 --> 00:40:06,43
account easy to do so you have to have
an account that's separate from your

604
00:40:06,44 --> 00:40:11,36
personal account around oh yes OK but it
but people don't feel from that because

605
00:40:11,37 --> 00:40:11,49
it's

606
00:40:11,50 --> 00:40:19,10
a very easy thing to do because Josh David
over at the the registrar of voters can

607
00:40:19,11 --> 00:40:22,35
very simply tell you where to go
and what day to go not what does

608
00:40:22,36 --> 00:40:23,95
a multitude you go to

609
00:40:23,96 --> 00:40:29,40
a bank you go to someone working there
the cow and then the political finance

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00:40:29,41 --> 00:40:31,78
office very easy to work
with these people in Boston

611
00:40:31,79 --> 00:40:33,83
a very cooperative if you have

612
00:40:33,84 --> 00:40:38,42
a problem with the form go back up to the
coroner's office and Josh will come over

613
00:40:38,43 --> 00:40:40,44
and tell them and I've seen this been

614
00:40:40,45 --> 00:40:46,00
a working because you know again if you've
been so long as direct like I have been

615
00:40:46,01 --> 00:40:49,45
you know and we didn't have those reporting
to begin with and they didn't know why

616
00:40:49,46 --> 00:40:53,37
I was still there the majority of people
who sort of the local city council this is

617
00:40:53,38 --> 00:40:57,73
their first foray into public office not
many people came into it with previous

618
00:40:57,74 --> 00:41:01,44
experience let's face it people in city
council are coming down from serving as

619
00:41:01,45 --> 00:41:05,29
Congressman they're coming from the
neighborhood level they're coming from either

620
00:41:05,30 --> 00:41:08,89
their professional background and
bringing their expertise whether it's in

621
00:41:08,90 --> 00:41:13,21
accounting history teaching whatever
they're bringing it to the forefront for

622
00:41:13,43 --> 00:41:19,61
perhaps the very first time. So if they so
their special requirements inserted like

623
00:41:19,62 --> 00:41:20,36
you mentioned you have to have

624
00:41:20,37 --> 00:41:25,07
a separate account. Do you why do you even
need money in the first was can you run

625
00:41:25,40 --> 00:41:30,49
can you run without funds today can you use
social media community media can you do

626
00:41:30,50 --> 00:41:33,71
is there are other ways to do it without
really having to raise money which is that

627
00:41:33,72 --> 00:41:38,19
Obama is going to raise one billion dollars
to run for president State Rep right

628
00:41:38,20 --> 00:41:42,47
and state rep race in the thirteenth next
trick some of the candidates were up to

629
00:41:42,68 --> 00:41:47,60
forty thirty forty thousand dollars the
race itself collectively was one hundred

630
00:41:47,61 --> 00:41:51,78
fifty two hundred thousand so kind of
defy think the answer though Bill Coleman

631
00:41:52,26 --> 00:41:59,03
right now Coleman has been involved with
more social issues and helpful issues

632
00:42:00,02 --> 00:42:01,20
gets a little fruity every once in

633
00:42:01,21 --> 00:42:05,70
a while with some of his ideas but certainly
has had his name out there since I

634
00:42:06,07 --> 00:42:08,69
first ran in one thousand when he
might walk down the risk on always on

635
00:42:08,70 --> 00:42:13,44
a Saturday night with tuxedo on the putting
the recipes you know there's was caught

636
00:42:13,45 --> 00:42:14,05
on there with

637
00:42:14,41 --> 00:42:17,88
a group of picture of the other side
yard we need more eclectic people write

638
00:42:17,89 --> 00:42:19,09
a lot about has

639
00:42:19,10 --> 00:42:24,29
a guy that are into his spurs to be elected
to the city council but never organized

640
00:42:24,76 --> 00:42:28,71
a group of people that could get on the air
and never and I understand he had some

641
00:42:28,72 --> 00:42:32,68
kind of call on problems when he first
began I mean the one that says that wasn't

642
00:42:32,69 --> 00:42:37,45
there that's float but that's not an
excuse for not winning but he never raised

643
00:42:37,46 --> 00:42:41,35
enough money he never got serious in the
campaign he never had any kind of people

644
00:42:41,39 --> 00:42:44,88
August I was never set the table Bill
would look in the mirror and vote and

645
00:42:44,89 --> 00:42:48,77
campaign Well Bill was never going to be
on was Jimmy Fallon because he's not you

646
00:42:48,78 --> 00:42:52,58
know he just fired him self right now you
know you really need to enjoin people you

647
00:42:52,59 --> 00:42:57,24
know for sure your idea is to engage other
people in your mission if you can do

648
00:42:57,25 --> 00:43:00,93
that then the money follows logically the
money will come on now you don't need

649
00:43:00,94 --> 00:43:03,85
fifty thousand dollars to run for
city so that's not that's not

650
00:43:03,86 --> 00:43:07,06
a measurement those craggy raised two
hundred million this guy could raise it if

651
00:43:07,07 --> 00:43:10,59
there were five blocks in the race but if
you don't have an organization to raise

652
00:43:10,60 --> 00:43:15,77
a dime unless you want to solve support
your own your own campaign I mean you've If

653
00:43:15,78 --> 00:43:21,81
once you get. The knowledge out there that
you have enough people around you that.

654
00:43:21,88 --> 00:43:25,86
World get out there and you start running
fun raises small fundraisers you and

655
00:43:25,87 --> 00:43:30,23
house parties this job west all the money
going to go when you're raising me God

656
00:43:30,24 --> 00:43:35,92
I'm saying is for I have an idea but all
he does it on me it's all me money so so

657
00:43:36,08 --> 00:43:38,89
does it you don't want to campaign
manager you know the campaign manager of

658
00:43:38,90 --> 00:43:41,00
a city council Rescue Committee that's

659
00:43:41,01 --> 00:43:45,92
a waste of money can can raising
too much money. Puts you into

660
00:43:45,93 --> 00:43:49,96
a position where you're compromising your
values and you know you national goals

661
00:43:49,97 --> 00:43:53,84
and always you don't have any values when
you come in I mean we live in the UK Here

662
00:43:53,85 --> 00:43:55,38
page two hundred dollars I always had

663
00:43:55,39 --> 00:44:00,48
a hundred dollar bill in my wallet my
platform was if you give me money and you ask

664
00:44:00,49 --> 00:44:01,52
me for a favor and give me

665
00:44:01,53 --> 00:44:05,88
a hundred bucks back and I ran on that
for twenty years and I did I was scared

666
00:44:05,89 --> 00:44:07,79
a hundred bucks but nobody gave

667
00:44:07,80 --> 00:44:10,70
a back of them of the hundred bucks my
wallet Jordan I don't think anybody would

668
00:44:10,71 --> 00:44:15,27
have did give you more than a hundred
dollars today but that's that was

669
00:44:15,28 --> 00:44:18,59
a that's the the thing so I mean I think
everything to limit it to what you have to

670
00:44:18,60 --> 00:44:22,09
do I don't see there's too much money if
you sell yourself out you saw yourself out

671
00:44:22,10 --> 00:44:23,94
you're going to be a corrupt it makes

672
00:44:23,95 --> 00:44:30,09
a difference whether in office or out of
office in aged it's no imitation I hope my

673
00:44:30,28 --> 00:44:32,42
my friend on the left hand side here is

674
00:44:32,43 --> 00:44:35,76
a race in some way one more
race and one Rocky will put

675
00:44:35,77 --> 00:44:39,15
a rocky music one more. But age is not

676
00:44:39,16 --> 00:44:45,37
a. Non-issue so is that finally something
you have in your how you see value change

677
00:44:45,38 --> 00:44:46,54
you see this as

678
00:44:46,86 --> 00:44:51,76
a strategic opportunity to make that
change because the legal requirements it's

679
00:44:51,77 --> 00:44:53,49
going to let's look at Gary Rosen for

680
00:44:53,50 --> 00:44:58,08
a minute yeah prime example the guy never
had an organization's life he never

681
00:44:58,09 --> 00:45:02,70
raised any serious money. He gave no more
columns than whatever invented on the

682
00:45:02,71 --> 00:45:08,41
answer of the all the people that know
him but he you know he just did it with

683
00:45:08,42 --> 00:45:13,50
sweat equity. I mean he just stood on that
show his budget was probably huge you

684
00:45:13,51 --> 00:45:19,79
know I mean and you know he's broken so
often and you know we lasted he lasted so

685
00:45:20,10 --> 00:45:24,49
what I want to campaign like I wrote since
no I would not as he's probably most

686
00:45:24,50 --> 00:45:27,72
know but you can do some
things without spending

687
00:45:27,73 --> 00:45:32,72
a lot of money if you have organization
friends people that believe in your message

688
00:45:33,02 --> 00:45:35,23
what about those people that say
just want to run just to make

689
00:45:35,24 --> 00:45:37,27
a point and they don't real
scenario is serious is that

690
00:45:37,28 --> 00:45:41,81
a waste of everybody's time and money or
is it's is it worth it in the terms of you

691
00:45:41,82 --> 00:45:45,88
know put policy somewhere along the line
if you see the number of issues that come

692
00:45:45,89 --> 00:45:49,72
before the city council you really need
to become well versed you can't just be

693
00:45:49,73 --> 00:45:53,30
a one issue person and let everything
else just float by you really need to be

694
00:45:53,31 --> 00:45:55,93
engaged you really need to care
about things that happen across

695
00:45:55,94 --> 00:46:02,60
a wide spectrum of issues not just taxation
not just teaching not just crime you

696
00:46:02,61 --> 00:46:03,44
need to take

697
00:46:03,45 --> 00:46:07,73
a look holistically at the community that
you're representing especially if you're

698
00:46:07,74 --> 00:46:08,72
an at large council or

699
00:46:09,05 --> 00:46:13,92
a district council or is can be more involved
in constituent issues and that's why

700
00:46:13,93 --> 00:46:14,05
it's

701
00:46:14,06 --> 00:46:18,03
a great balance to have at large and
district councils but for the most part you

702
00:46:18,04 --> 00:46:18,42
can't take

703
00:46:18,43 --> 00:46:21,82
a pass on ninety percent you need to be
engaged on many of the issues that if

704
00:46:21,83 --> 00:46:25,48
you're ready for city council in this
coming election in school committee and you

705
00:46:25,49 --> 00:46:28,98
haven't been attending the city council
meetings or the school committee Shame on

706
00:46:28,99 --> 00:46:34,85
you. Shame on you and you know what I
mean by attending I'll be speaking up

707
00:46:35,09 --> 00:46:38,25
something called watching you know you
can stand up on some issues and get some

708
00:46:38,26 --> 00:46:44,28
free press you kidding challenges
counselors you have your say you go to

709
00:46:44,29 --> 00:46:48,31
a community meeting you know the press
covers some of those communities get

710
00:46:48,32 --> 00:46:52,58
involved take a position it's a
free ride but make sure it's

711
00:46:52,59 --> 00:46:59,05
a sensible position be heard be seen be
introduced. But don't let this to the

712
00:46:59,06 --> 00:47:00,45
editor I mean there's

713
00:47:00,46 --> 00:47:06,24
a lot of ways that you get your positions
out this is sort of its preliminary sort

714
00:47:06,25 --> 00:47:10,95
of like priming the same phrases I did you
also find out what the issues are and

715
00:47:10,96 --> 00:47:15,51
what the council is doing about those
issues I mean watch that process of how

716
00:47:15,52 --> 00:47:20,55
a council meeting is run you know ninety
nine percent probably perfunctory but

717
00:47:20,56 --> 00:47:23,21
ninety nine percent of the time that's
where all the money is being spent and the

718
00:47:23,22 --> 00:47:27,47
data result there to be in to be educated
about where the city is spending five

719
00:47:27,48 --> 00:47:31,41
hundred million dollars budget and the
city manages annual budget messages on the

720
00:47:31,42 --> 00:47:35,38
website and I think the city's website is
probably one of the better written ones

721
00:47:35,39 --> 00:47:40,08
and better organized ones but it is great
to have the utilized I think it all goes

722
00:47:40,09 --> 00:47:46,61
back to engagement in people being artistically
disengaged socially unappreciative

723
00:47:46,62 --> 00:47:50,62
in an engaging and knowledge not knowledgeable
enough about what there is available

724
00:47:50,63 --> 00:47:52,69
in this community five
hundred million dollars

725
00:47:52,70 --> 00:47:54,76
a year to provide local services that's

726
00:47:54,77 --> 00:48:00,13
a great deal of money in the pot to divvy
up there have to be people out there who

727
00:48:00,14 --> 00:48:06,50
have ideas and new ideas and perhaps. You
know how to redirect some of that but

728
00:48:06,51 --> 00:48:11,22
when you get David during the campaign Paul
immoral what you get your campaign all

729
00:48:11,23 --> 00:48:12,84
the time is when I ask

730
00:48:12,85 --> 00:48:16,51
a question or other people ask questions
then they can they can squash you know

731
00:48:16,52 --> 00:48:20,79
well you know when I'm in. No way to meet
women women you should know that it's

732
00:48:20,80 --> 00:48:24,44
a right not what you're going to do
otherwise you should be running I mean you

733
00:48:24,45 --> 00:48:27,25
should have looked at the budget you
should've eaten up that budget you should've

734
00:48:27,26 --> 00:48:31,69
taken the pot you should ask questions
during budget review you should know what

735
00:48:31,70 --> 00:48:34,69
you have to if you don't want to do the if
you don't want to do the ground work the

736
00:48:34,70 --> 00:48:38,12
sweat equity of the
homework then do yourself

737
00:48:38,13 --> 00:48:42,46
a favor don't run this this is winnable
this is winnable there are candidates on

738
00:48:42,47 --> 00:48:46,20
this city council is accomplished
right now that of all if people in

739
00:48:46,21 --> 00:48:52,57
a school committee very vulnerable. If you
want to run in win this year I believe

740
00:48:52,58 --> 00:48:57,84
people can win I really do but you've got
to go you know Cream rises. Whatever it

741
00:48:57,85 --> 00:49:01,63
is you're going to want to go now David
mentioned that it's kind of lately is it

742
00:49:01,64 --> 00:49:06,07
too late no it's not too late now actually
I think that some people just decide

743
00:49:06,80 --> 00:49:10,72
underestimate what they know about the
community if you've grown up here if you're

744
00:49:10,76 --> 00:49:15,61
someone who's you know you stay engaged by
reading I think every pretty good diving

745
00:49:15,62 --> 00:49:20,51
board to jump from you know in this community
we're talking about you know how many

746
00:49:20,52 --> 00:49:25,19
people actually. What's our audience out
there especially in the schools eighty

747
00:49:25,20 --> 00:49:28,36
five percent of the families in the city
send their kids to public school system

748
00:49:28,82 --> 00:49:32,67
how is it that we have been early enough
people to come up with six warm bodies to

749
00:49:32,68 --> 00:49:34,65
serve on the school committee has to be

750
00:49:34,66 --> 00:49:40,04
a. Great untapped number of people out
there who could offer new opinions

751
00:49:40,08 --> 00:49:44,65
reinforced opinions redirecting resources
into the school to problems like you say

752
00:49:44,66 --> 00:49:49,26
some of them might be afraid to run for
you know this gotcha media type of I find

753
00:49:49,27 --> 00:49:50,99
it had bad either had to believe watching

754
00:49:51,00 --> 00:49:53,89
a school committee that ninety percent
of the people in this committee couldn't

755
00:49:53,90 --> 00:49:58,47
grasp the issues and take on that leadership
role So legally what I'm sorry about

756
00:49:58,61 --> 00:50:02,35
legally what's what's required if somebody
says I'm going to run right now I mean

757
00:50:02,36 --> 00:50:04,97
do you believe us not a
sign we need to be a U.S.

758
00:50:04,98 --> 00:50:08,38
Citizen and least eighteen years of age
and reside in the city it was to run for

759
00:50:08,39 --> 00:50:09,78
office in signatures with

760
00:50:09,79 --> 00:50:13,85
a committee get the signatures need one
hundred certified signatures for his

761
00:50:13,86 --> 00:50:17,48
district council three hundred for school
committee three hundred for city council

762
00:50:17,57 --> 00:50:21,11
and to get those signature forms to those
reforms that you get from your actions

763
00:50:21,12 --> 00:50:24,47
right at the Election Commission office on
the second floor of City Hall now is how

764
00:50:24,48 --> 00:50:28,17
he's using it signatures you can get three
hundred signatures in an afternoon or

765
00:50:28,18 --> 00:50:30,56
certainly within two days
if you want to stand at

766
00:50:30,57 --> 00:50:35,83
a shopping center or go with this I'm of
group of people concert or something you

767
00:50:35,84 --> 00:50:41,20
just want to walk around. It is not
difficult to do You could if you get entree

768
00:50:41,21 --> 00:50:45,47
into high rises for the only way you go
over to a big go to any of these things

769
00:50:45,48 --> 00:50:48,45
a church organization
whatever it is it's not

770
00:50:48,46 --> 00:50:52,47
a difficult thing very small number of
registered voters have to sign and with the

771
00:50:52,48 --> 00:50:55,70
with the legal aspect in terms of bookkeeping
and fund raising Do you need to hire

772
00:50:55,71 --> 00:50:56,25
a C.P.A.

773
00:50:56,26 --> 00:51:00,63
To be on your. You know when your campaign
committee anybody who does their checking

774
00:51:00,64 --> 00:51:05,61
account online can can easily do their own
financing you could name a treasure or

775
00:51:05,62 --> 00:51:08,96
a family member I know Jordan Maxine
was always your Treasurer I think it's

776
00:51:08,97 --> 00:51:11,04
probably a good a good thinking for

777
00:51:11,05 --> 00:51:14,88
a candidate to have their spouse or
significant other be in control of the

778
00:51:14,89 --> 00:51:18,90
financing it's not like trying to manage
something for not in company it's

779
00:51:18,91 --> 00:51:21,52
a matter of doing it just like your own
home check and just one that we would want

780
00:51:21,53 --> 00:51:21,79
to be

781
00:51:21,80 --> 00:51:25,01
a special something that it was also meant
that you can't say hey you know I didn't

782
00:51:25,02 --> 00:51:29,22
know that I was going to be spent on you
but it's very easy to do and that's making

783
00:51:29,23 --> 00:51:35,14
a skill sets skill set yeah yeah I'm thinking
of Janice NATO. I would love to have

784
00:51:35,15 --> 00:51:36,76
run a council today with

785
00:51:36,77 --> 00:51:41,92
a lady that was grassroots invested time
in the community is not afraid to take

786
00:51:41,93 --> 00:51:43,98
a stance was courageous to take

787
00:51:43,99 --> 00:51:49,52
a stance. Was not afraid to fight her
colleagues to to go if you actually came to

788
00:51:49,53 --> 00:51:53,04
a fair share which absolutely actually why
dog it was actually activists and she

789
00:51:53,05 --> 00:51:57,38
was engaged to a neighborhood activist
about taxes on the cost of care not

790
00:51:57,39 --> 00:52:00,29
a lot of money not a lot of money she
lived on Cambridge here in London came

791
00:52:00,30 --> 00:52:03,09
a three you know if somebody is unsure
whether or not they should be running once

792
00:52:03,10 --> 00:52:06,50
you start going around getting signatures
you'll be told whether or not you're

793
00:52:06,51 --> 00:52:10,65
a good candidate and people will be either
incentivize you and encourage you well

794
00:52:10,66 --> 00:52:14,16
they'll ignore you if you get ignored then
you know it might not be the right thing

795
00:52:14,17 --> 00:52:18,57
for you but why not try yeah we talked
about you know the political climate and

796
00:52:18,58 --> 00:52:25,19
some of the changes it has activism
itself changed. You know in terms of the

797
00:52:25,23 --> 00:52:28,90
face value of it are they out there the
activists out to face to face I think there

798
00:52:28,91 --> 00:52:30,79
are some who have energy
but they just get on

799
00:52:30,80 --> 00:52:34,37
a blog they throw it across something so
it's sort of it does rain but it's not

800
00:52:34,38 --> 00:52:40,74
really done i guess i think Joe may
O'Brien is your real because of his

801
00:52:41,22 --> 00:52:44,38
being so active in the community
I think that you've got not only

802
00:52:44,39 --> 00:52:46,75
a good example of the mayor
being an activist but we have

803
00:52:46,76 --> 00:52:50,49
a chief executive this country who was a
community activist How could this not be

804
00:52:50,50 --> 00:52:54,58
a great time for people to see that by
that are currently it is led by their

805
00:52:54,59 --> 00:53:01,52
example yeah good sort of good point
yeah. It has changed dramatically this

806
00:53:01,53 --> 00:53:06,65
change electronic media can be a big
negative could also be a big. But we've lost

807
00:53:06,66 --> 00:53:10,65
a lot of our interpersonal skills of talking
to each other standing on the corner

808
00:53:10,66 --> 00:53:13,67
standing outside of a supermarket
standing outside of a bakery on

809
00:53:13,68 --> 00:53:16,29
a Sunday morning shaking hands
with people after they go to mass

810
00:53:17,18 --> 00:53:21,24
a lot of these things have changed if they
bring politics back to that rally on the

811
00:53:21,25 --> 00:53:25,41
corner type stuff and then go into the
church picnics on Sunday afternoon

812
00:53:25,45 --> 00:53:29,03
unfortunately that takes away from your
family but you know you press the flesh and

813
00:53:29,04 --> 00:53:32,72
tell people you're all about introducing
yourself to the community it's

814
00:53:32,73 --> 00:53:38,14
a seven day seven night commitment you make
for certain periods of time in you can

815
00:53:38,18 --> 00:53:42,09
get your name out there and if people
reject your message don't reject as David

816
00:53:42,10 --> 00:53:44,98
just said that rejecting that is just some
guy say if you approach and some women

817
00:53:44,99 --> 00:53:47,62
to take the approach where they
get their families involved so in

818
00:53:47,63 --> 00:53:51,51
a way it can keep your children with
you can do a lot of things there's

819
00:53:51,52 --> 00:53:53,32
a lot of fun to this there's

820
00:53:53,33 --> 00:53:57,93
a lot of fun what you know marching into
Columbus Day parade the St Patrick's Day

821
00:53:57,94 --> 00:54:01,67
parade if you have a couple bucks
you want to sponsor a band was

822
00:54:01,68 --> 00:54:06,80
a lot of stuff if you can do it you can
show up at the concert at the park you just

823
00:54:06,81 --> 00:54:10,33
walk by you don't want to intrude on people
and go over there at lunch time with

824
00:54:10,34 --> 00:54:14,35
a common walk around introduce
yourself to people you know you have

825
00:54:14,36 --> 00:54:16,74
a job do your job take a half hour off

826
00:54:16,75 --> 00:54:20,85
a lunch that's the stuff you can do so
with the last little roughly less than ten

827
00:54:20,86 --> 00:54:27,13
minutes. You win the election you decide
to run you follow the advice you're still

828
00:54:27,23 --> 00:54:32,35
esteemed panel has provided you win
then what. It sounds like the movie The

829
00:54:32,36 --> 00:54:36,08
Candidate that you really at the judges
say you get out of then you say what the

830
00:54:36,09 --> 00:54:39,37
hell that I'm going for that's for you
know well what happens is there is an

831
00:54:39,38 --> 00:54:44,67
orientation state reps get this little
orientation I mean what happens next well of

832
00:54:44,68 --> 00:54:46,00
course the term is

833
00:54:46,01 --> 00:54:50,21
a two year term for city council those
who are successful this November will be

834
00:54:50,22 --> 00:54:54,39
sworn in the first secular danger and you
were there is an orientation that we

835
00:54:54,40 --> 00:54:58,40
provide that helps people to understand
the protocols and the parliamentary

836
00:54:58,41 --> 00:55:02,64
procedure but again we've had over the
course of my tenure with the city thirty two

837
00:55:02,65 --> 00:55:06,87
years they've been people of all different
ability levels all different occupations

838
00:55:07,35 --> 00:55:12,89
some the walk of patients whatsoever except
homemaker. Emerging taking those people

839
00:55:12,90 --> 00:55:14,95
in co-creating them into the the life of

840
00:55:14,96 --> 00:55:20,60
a city councillor and the routine of the
weekly city council meetings and. Is one

841
00:55:20,61 --> 00:55:26,94
that most people of can handle quite easily.
You know the budget cycle there are

842
00:55:26,95 --> 00:55:30,84
two things that city councils are
really employed to do one is to employ

843
00:55:30,85 --> 00:55:34,34
a city manager and the other one
is to review and approve a budget

844
00:55:34,35 --> 00:55:39,45
a balanced budget and being involved in
those two particular major themes I think

845
00:55:39,46 --> 00:55:43,89
is something that most people can can
grasp very easily but Davis like yourself

846
00:55:43,90 --> 00:55:47,87
quite of the AGO in his office of the
city clear up because they act as

847
00:55:47,88 --> 00:55:52,40
a tremendous asset and they are the the
the right and left hand of members of the

848
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city council the mayor of. Dr freed
over the school committee there's

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a core of the school committee so if any
council what you're elected. Then you go

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see the clerk. Who's impartial always has
been work for the Council even though

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it's under contract. And. I mean it's

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a good thing you do have some on the job
training she just asked David and David

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will give you an opinion of this is what
you have to do in this is how you file an

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author and it's not that complicated if you
have any common sense and you know the

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issue is you do your homework you come in
prepared. It's not it's not difficult to

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do because you're a N.

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And you learned it and you have people
behind you. It's not rocket science it

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really isn't rocket science and listen to
people and go to other people if you call

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them that it involved in

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a private sector or say to someone you
know I got this problem with this budget

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item this makes sense to you and someone
has so maybe financial expertise and you

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look at this enormous adjoin this
is all right so then you find

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a balance and you can you reach out to
people neighbors are all wrong apparently

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you know when I was chair with the school
committee because I was never talk to

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parents all the time build quality to your
will coalitions and you can't succeed by

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yourself so now if you if you win or
lose if you lose it doesn't mean it's

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a life political life is over right you
can always know what we write should most

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people were going to lose the first
time out because they don't have

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a recognition. Paul you've been involved
in lots of different emerging communities

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in the city African community gunning
community how do you suggest that somebody

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from

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a minority community of the Latino community
because we are on the verge of becoming

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a Latino majority community how would
you say that somebody from an African

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background would try to coalesce people
to secrecy either on the school committee

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of the city council where
they begin I think there are

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a number of people out of the F.

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American community that have
spent a lot of time and invest

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a lot of their energy into the city of
Boston such as Robert Thomas I think an

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individual that has invested in itself or
herself in the community they have that

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base out there they have that coalition
they can go to I think just to be here for

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three to five years no matter what
background and I think that you can put

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a successful race together tomorrow I think
will not win. OK So if you're one of

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those people call City Hall That's right
Lexington What's the number the last

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always seven nine nine one zero zero four
Ask for Josh Maduna he's probably the

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only person that's going to pick up the
phone there anyway and Josh be very happy

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to lead you into the process thank you
very much guys thank you Joy and thank you

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thank you David thank you very much for
being here and again considering running.

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Cons and David at the Election Commission
office seven nine nine one zero zero four

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talk to Josh get you
started Thank you guys.