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Poster: Diana Hamilton Date: Dec 5, 2003 5:55am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: tape trading 1965 to 2003- call for end of audio trades?

understand some people's concerns that MP3s could be burnt to CD and then traded by mail/hand and re-ripped to SHN, thus 'corrupting' the trading pool - is that the specific corruption of which some speak? Is there any way to get round this problem? Wow Simon, the way you phrase that, I suddenly realize the weak point in the trading chain is actually that any traders still trade audio-format discs. That's the part where you can suddenly become uncertain of the purity. You get this silver disc but there's no quick way to tell if it's the primo copy. If everyone traded in lossless filesets (which can be burned to data discs, people would always know they had the primo copy or not, because there would always be fingerprints to crossref (archive wold have them, any other trustworthy non-audio trader would have them too). Every lossless fileset traded of course comes with a set of fingerprints (audio doesn't, that's a giant problem with it). Tom or any trader, how about this for an education mission? Stamp out audio-format trading since that's the only "vector" for pollution (such as the mp3 sourced-trackes that the audio trades might carry). Also, it's not just mp3 carried through the vector, it's the risky DAE gen thing, that's a whole other "pollution" source with audio trading that etree.org at least has worked to stamp on as much as possible. Look over at db.etree.org, that's what lots of us do anyway! (When have I last got an *audio* trade in the mail? Years ago?) So, it's coming across as "A Modest Proposal" but I swear I'm serious! Would this be doable as an education mission? Wouldn't this be a sure-fire way for any taper to preserve purity- ask that no audio copies be made, only give out lossless in trades? Insist on no audio-format trades and the mp3 issue goes away, doesn't it? Whether they exist or not can have no effect on trading; they can't enter the trading chain. Everybody wins this way. A side benefit (from lossless proponents' vantage- which we traders all are here, right?) is that every trader must get schooled in lossless as an entry to trading- that can only help the overall trading pool. I really do mean this for consideration- can this work, and if not, why not?
This post was modified by hamilton on 2003-12-05 13:54:03
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Poster: Diana Hamilton Date: Dec 6, 2003 5:25am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: tape trading 1965 to 2003- call for end of audio trades?

I've spun off a fresh thread with a more concise version of the idea:
http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=10595