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Poster: | tree-ap | Date: | Jul 30, 2007 6:23am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | "Steal Your Face" as an album |
"...since it has been justly reviled as perhaps the worst album we ever made." Phil Lesh
First, I'd like to say that this wasn't necesarily an "album", rather than another document of their live performances. To me, the term "album" implied a studio effort.
Anyway, does anyone else feel like Phil & Bear did about SYF? Phil says that many of the tapes were severly lacking in good sound quality---vocals were missing or very low in the mix, the overall performace quality wasn't very good, etc. Personally, SYF is probably my favorite live "album" after LIVE DEAD. I always thought SYF sounded more like a live performace than even LIVE DEAD did. There was--to me anyway--a sense of "space" to it, almost like actually hearing it at it's original performance & venue. The Movie soundtrack that came out a couple years ago had the same sound to it, and I like it just as much.
One more thing---Phil does say this about '74 and the Wall of Sound..."It's probably no coincidence that the music we created playing through the Wall is reagrded by most Deadheads as the pinnacle of our live performaces; this period (about 40 gigs) remains to this day the most generally satisfying performance experience of my life with the band." I think it's funny he uses the word "most" since there seems to be very few of us here that regard '74 like that...though I do whole-heartedly agree with Phil.
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Poster: | Earl B. Powell | Date: | Jul 30, 2007 7:38am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: 'Steal Your Face' as an album |
The best part of the LP was the interior jacket photos.
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Poster: | BryanE | Date: | Jul 30, 2007 8:29am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: 'Steal Your Face' as an album |
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Poster: | skuzzlebutt | Date: | Jul 30, 2007 10:43am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: 'Steal Your Face' as an album |
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Poster: | William Tell | Date: | Jul 30, 2007 9:06am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: 'Steal Your Face' as an album |
Again, just opinion of Bay Area folks at the time. Harsh, but we all referred to it as "Steal your money."
Just one person's view...
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Poster: | Earl B. Powell | Date: | Jul 30, 2007 9:35am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: 'Steal Your Face' as an album |
Between the slight of hand of Lenny Hart and the enormous costs associated with the "Wall of Sound," the band was nearly bankrupted when they went on hiatus and throughout 1975. There was great deal of suspicion ($) when Mickey Hart rejoined the band at the end of the wall of sound sessions and it carried over to the beginning of the 76 spring tour. The LP was released June 26, 1976.
At the time it only made sense that they needed the money, rushed something into and through production and the result was a crappy sounding album. To many, they had sold out to grab a buck. What's most ironic about the whole thing is that the band adopted the logo from this album for the rest of their careers...
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Poster: | William Tell | Date: | Jul 30, 2007 12:51pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: 'Steal Your Face' as an album |
Damn--nice to exchange over a simple post with all this swirling around us.
I will say that though negotiating it is a bit tedious, it really isn't that bad. Folks are over-reacting to the few over-reactions and then filling the posts with drivel (like I am right now).
Always appreciate your input friend.
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Poster: | JamminJerome | Date: | Jul 30, 2007 1:23pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: 'Steal Your Face' as an album |
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Poster: | jglynn1.2 | Date: | Jul 30, 2007 10:08am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: 'Steal Your Face' as an album |
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Poster: | BryanE | Date: | Jul 30, 2007 7:03am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: 'Steal Your Face' as an album |
I was surprised to read what Phil said about in his book because I distinctly remember how he defended the album at one point, saying, "I love The Grateful Dead, zits and all. Steal Your Face is The Grateful Dead with zits." Not exactly a glowing review, but still a thumbs-up.
If nothing else, with its title and cover art, they were able to come up with a name for that logo, so it serves a functional purpose. Whatever. Plus, people were also given another chance to go nuts when Jerry sang that line in He's Gone.
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Poster: | ghostofpig | Date: | Jul 30, 2007 7:43am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: 'Steal Your Face' as an album |
I found it to be frustrating in the song selection. First live l.p. without a jam, and the recording was odd. But, I had started to move out of the Dead scene and into jazz at that point. Maybe my expectations were too high after the great Europe '72. I think I'll have to give it another listen.
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Poster: | jglynn1.2 | Date: | Jul 30, 2007 6:21pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Rain and Snow |
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Poster: | tree-ap | Date: | Jul 30, 2007 8:28am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: 'Steal Your Face' as an album |
On the previous incarnation of the offical GD site it mentioned in their archives that the shows were "lackluster" in their performance quality. Maybe Bear & Phil felt the same way & didn't want to release any of the jams? I always did wonder why there weren't any further explorations on the album---Stella Blue is the longest song on it @ 8:49 min. They could've substituted the EOTW>China Doll segment from the 19th at least, as it would've fit on the records & tapes of the day.
Now it's time to really bitch about it with a could've/should've. When they redid the movie & released the "soundtrack" to it they should've just went ahead and mastered each show (there are only 5 of them) and released them as stand-alone CD's to purchase, satisfying the complete-ists AND making more $$$ for both the GD & Rhino.
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Poster: | tree-ap | Date: | Jul 30, 2007 7:36am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: 'Steal Your Face' as an album |
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Poster: | BryanE | Date: | Jul 30, 2007 8:13am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: 'Steal Your Face' as an album |
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Poster: | johnnyonthespot | Date: | Jul 30, 2007 9:22am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: 'Steal Your Face' as an album |
Cold Rain and Snow - Ever heard a better one? I haven't.
1/2 Step - Brilliant. One of the best
Stella Blue - ditto
Sugaree - ditto
Promised land - great kick off
US Blues - doesn't HAVE to be there but this is when this song was at it's best.
If they had included Eyes and a jam on top of these tunes, it would be a near perfect album
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Poster: | prideofcucamonga | Date: | Jul 30, 2007 8:26am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: 'Steal Your Face' as an album |