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Poster: | bluedevil | Date: | Feb 14, 2008 12:57pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Some Love for Donna on Valentines |
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Poster: | William Tell | Date: | Feb 14, 2008 1:38pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: Some Love for Donna on Valentines |
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Poster: | Dhamma1 | Date: | Feb 14, 2008 4:55pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: Some Love for Donna on Valentines |
After listening to the 200 or so most popular Dead shows from '72-'78, my own personal opinion is that, all things considered, her singing brought wonderful benefits to the sound that certainly outweigh the occasional horrors she committed during the Wall of Sound era. But that's only one person's opinion.
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Poster: | midnight sun | Date: | Feb 14, 2008 6:17pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: Some Love for Donna on Valentines |
This post was modified by midnight sun on 2008-02-15 02:17:13
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Poster: | dscott | Date: | Feb 14, 2008 6:14pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: Some Love for Donna on Valentines |
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Poster: | midnight sun | Date: | Feb 14, 2008 6:55pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: Some Love for Donna on Valentines |
i seem to be able to tolerate Jer's singing, going as far as to convince myself that he sometimes sings out of tune by design...yet, for example, i find Donna's singing on Here Comes Sunshine (one of my fav jam vehicles) nothing but a gong show
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Poster: | blacklakelight | Date: | Feb 15, 2008 6:33am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: Some Love for Donna on Valentines |
As I've stated before, Donna's never really ruined anything for me. Well, it hasn't happened very often. Some of those '74 Playin's can be rough, but you know it's coming. My main peeve is her invariable lilt in the chorus of The Wheel in '77; "then the lightin' a-wee-uhl." Don't care for it.
I've never disliked her, though, and certainly never blamed her. I mean, shit yeah, the band had the tapes, they knew the problem. They could have told her, look, this just isn't working out, but they didn't (and no, I don't wish they did).
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Poster: | midnight sun | Date: | Feb 15, 2008 6:11pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: Some Love for Donna on Valentines |
Brent didn't seem to have difficulty singing in tune, even though he was mainly using his falsetto range and had to contend with the added pressure and sound of his keyboard work...come to think of it, i now recall how far away Brent always appeared to be from the rest of the band ("You are so far from me")
Phil makes no mention of Donna's singing difficulties in his book, other than he was grateful that she took the upper harmony parts off his plate...i remember a Jerry interview where he stresses the importance of getting along with other musicians...this is probably best exemplified in his tolerance of Bob's shrieking during what would have otherwise been a very sensitive and serene transition from vocals>jam during the 80's Estimated Prophet's, IMO far worse than anything Donna ever did
it can be very subjective in the sense that if one admires a musician's voice, instrumental capabilities, song writing, or for that matter, their personality, one might be more inclined to tolerate or even overlook their shortcomings
btw, i was quite moved by your post re - Shunka...i can't honestly say how i would have dealt with that "kitten killer"...along with realizing that dog's inherent innocence, you probably also knew that shooting that dog would have only resulted in it's incompetent owner getting another one
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Poster: | blacklakelight | Date: | Feb 16, 2008 5:54am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: Some Love for Donna on Valentines |
Thanks, man. From what I remember, the dog was pretty clearly stray. I can't say what I realized at the time--I could go on and on about in now, of course--only that I felt for the dog, and my cat was dead anyway.
When I gave my friend his gun back, I said sorry for pussing out. I didn't really think I had, it was just good business, you know, upholding the code. This guy was very kung-fu philosophical, throwing stars and electric boogaloo. He said I hadn't, I'd just learned something very important about myself: I was not a killer.
Pretty heavy shit for parachute pants.
peace.
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Poster: | Arbuthnot | Date: | Feb 14, 2008 5:14pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: Some Love for Donna on Valentines |
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Poster: | direwolf0701 | Date: | Feb 14, 2008 1:42pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: Some Love for Donna on Valentines |
Love to hear she said that. Makes me look on Donna in a whole new (positive) light. not that i ever had anything against "her" at all.
good post you freakin' thieving lying lawyer (and asshole to boot)
;-P
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Poster: | Kryssy Fields | Date: | Feb 14, 2008 2:04pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: Some Love for Donna on Valentines |
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Poster: | Chris U. | Date: | Feb 14, 2008 2:27pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: Some Love for Donna on Valentines |
None of this excuses the banshee screaming at the Hofheinz Pavilion in 1972.
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Poster: | johnnyonthespot | Date: | Feb 14, 2008 2:30pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: Some Love for Donna on Valentines |
EXACTLY. Besides, they played the freakin tapes back periodically. The only thing I can think is that the band must have encouraged it right? How else could anyone think that howling and screeching was ok?
Sorry. Seems like a real nice lady but the truth is the truth.
On another note: local public radio has been playing Donna and the Zen trickers. Sounds like over the hill cheesy bar band stuff to me but I'm happy she's getting play.