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Poster: | Diana Hamilton | Date: | Jun 7, 2008 7:27am |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Help with some incoming films' rights? |
This post was modified by Diana Hamilton on 2008-06-07 14:27:54
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Poster: | kustota | Date: | Jun 7, 2008 7:10am |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Re: Help with some incoming films' rifghts? |
"For a work made for hire, the copyright in a work created before 1978, but not theretofore in the public domain or registered for copyright, subsists from January 1, 1978, and endures for a term of 95 years from the year of its first publication, or a term of 120 years from the year of its creation, whichever expires first."
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_domain)
so it must be under copyriht until 2073!
we also must remember that this movie is translated to english, right to this translation much possibly belong to someone too.
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Poster: | NDArch | Date: | Jun 8, 2008 7:28am |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Re: Help with some incoming films' rights? |
A humble suggestion: What the place needs is a person or a few persons that can be directly contacted by email to manage this kind of thing. Of course, one could simply email archive.org, I suppose.
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Poster: | Diana Hamilton | Date: | Jun 8, 2008 12:36pm |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Re: Help with some incoming films' rights? |
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Poster: | NDArch | Date: | Jun 8, 2008 3:47pm |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Re: Help with some incoming films' rights? |
Question on PD status of Funeral Home
http://www.archive.org/details/Funeral_Home
IMDB (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083976/) has "Funeral Home (1980)" also being known as "Cries in the Night." So a search of the U.S. Copyright Office - Copyright Catalog: Books, Music, etc. turned up the following listing:
Type of Work: Motion Picture
Registration Number / Date: PA0000167372 / 1983-02-03
Supplement to: PA0000141364 / 1982
Application Title: Funeral home (on original appl.: Cries in the night)
Title: Cries in the night.
Copyright Claimant: The Incident at North Hampton Productions, Ltd.
Supplement to Registration: PA 141-364, 1982
Other Title: Funeral home
Names: Incident at North Hampton Productions, Ltd.
To me it appears that though the movie was released in 1980, no attempt was made to copyright it until at least 1982. But then for some reason there was a "Supplement to Registration" in 1983. Maybe to correct a mistake in the original paperwork for registering for copyright?
Of course, I may be all wrong on my thinking. . . "For I'm just a soul who's intentions are good. Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood."
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Poster: | Westwind Multimedia | Date: | Jun 10, 2008 4:49am |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Re: Help with some incoming films' rights? |
own feeling about copy right thing in general is it needs a re-write start to finish I think there are a lot of folks out there more than frustrated with how they read (or don't read) the laws are out dated as is the technology that track them.
I would say try to have a since of humor about it and remember the great vision of those that started this site! A vision much more profound than these copy right laws could ever be!
Peace!
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Poster: | Campfire | Date: | Jun 12, 2008 11:33pm |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Re: Help with some incoming films' rights? |
Unfortunately, it has HAD a re-write, in fact several recently, under the watchful gaze of Hollywood with the expressly stated purpose of extending copyright to the point that "public domain" no longer exists. From the original 56 years it was extended to 75 years and now to 100 years and it is applied to everything produced, whether or not an application was even made for copyright!
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Poster: | LordOfTheExacto | Date: | Jun 8, 2008 12:30pm |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Re: Help with some incoming films' rights? |
Guilty. I'm not sure how I can square it with my conscience, but somehow I manage to every time. :)
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Poster: | kustota | Date: | Jun 7, 2008 7:26am |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Re: Help with some incoming films' rifghts? |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_domain_film
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Poster: | classiccinemaonline.com | Date: | Jun 7, 2008 11:38pm |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Re: Help with some incoming films' rifghts? |
If you people are so concerned with any of the films I have on the Archives, is there some reason why you don't email me directly?
If you're going to piss and moan about any of these, at least the ones I've uploaded to the archives, how about if I just delete them all and free you up so that you can find something or someone else to piss and moan about?
I really don't appreciate this kind of thing going on behind my back, thank you very much.
And by the way, why don't you check the US Copyright office instead of wiki? I didn't happen to find the title there when I looked, maybe I looked in the wrong place, but it doesn't matter now, I have removed the film.
Sandra
Classic Cinema Online
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Poster: | kustota | Date: | Jun 8, 2008 2:33am |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Re: Help with some incoming films' rifghts? |
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Poster: | classiccinemaonline.com | Date: | Jun 8, 2008 9:27am |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Re: Help with some incoming films' rifghts? |
Legally, it is the responsibility of the owner of any copyright to file complaints, not a bunch of people with too much time on their hands. Copyright owners usually don't hesitate to complain if it bothers them, and I'm sure that if there was an issue with this or any other movie they'd be sending letters to the Archives asking them to remove it.
They might also be in contact with the party who uploaded it, as well.
And if anyone who works at the Archives is in the position to be keeping an eye on what's copyrighted and what's not, then she should already know how to research that legitimately and should have the professionalism to directly contact the party who uploaded the movie and take the matter up with them instead of acting like a busybody and starting a gossip column about it, DIANE.
I don't usually participate in these forums, I think they're stupid -- I have better things to do than lower myself to the level of a bunch of internet trolls with too much time on their hands and not enough mental capacity to act human.
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Poster: | classiccinemaonline.com | Date: | Jun 8, 2008 9:55am |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Re: Help with some incoming films' rifghts? |
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Poster: | Diana Hamilton | Date: | Jun 8, 2008 12:45pm |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Re: Help with some incoming films' rights? |
This post was modified by Diana Hamilton on 2008-06-08 19:45:05
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Poster: | classiccinemaonline.com | Date: | Jun 8, 2008 6:42pm |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Re: Help with some incoming films' rights? |
I've already had to deal with one person claiming to be a copyright owner of several films that were clearly in the Public Domain, and when he sent me a fake, unsigned document, I knew right away what was up. I found out that this person goes around sending threatening letters to people who have been showing public domain movies claiming to be the owner of these movies, and he uses different company names.
I realize there is a lot of gray area, but one good place to start your search is the US Copyright office. If it's not on record there then chances are pretty good that it's in the Public Domain.
I'm no expert, but if I find that something is in the Public Domain then I don't make it available for public use, but it's nice to have a place to store it until I can afford to store it elsewhere. I won't sell or give those away or otherwise make them available, but I can still legally use those for my own personal viewing.
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Poster: | classiccinemaonline.com | Date: | Jun 8, 2008 6:57pm |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Re: Help with some incoming films' rights? |
Why did you bother asking me if you were just going to go ahead and remove them all?
Better remove Classic Cinema Online out of your wayback machine while you're at it, I never consented to having it in there.
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Poster: | Diana Hamilton | Date: | Jun 9, 2008 6:15am |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Re: Help with some incoming films' rights? |
This post was modified by Diana Hamilton on 2008-06-09 13:15:00
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Poster: | classiccinemaonline.com | Date: | Jun 9, 2008 4:03pm |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Re: Help with some incoming films' rights? |
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Poster: | Spuzz | Date: | Jun 8, 2008 7:03pm |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Re: Help with some incoming films' rights? |
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Poster: | classiccinemaonline.com | Date: | Jun 8, 2008 7:21pm |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Re: Help with some incoming films' rights? |
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Poster: | Spuzz | Date: | Jun 8, 2008 8:03pm |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Re: Help with some incoming films' rights? |
:D
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Poster: | classiccinemaonline.com | Date: | Jun 8, 2008 6:37pm |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Re: Help with some incoming films' rights? |
If you're unable to get the desired results that way, then it's a completely different issue bringing it up on a forum. But you should at least have the decency and common courtesy to go to the individual first and try to settle the matter that way. It would certainly be less insulting.
People shouldn't be made to feel like they're being put on the spot like that, it's just plain rude.
In the future if you have questions concerning copyright or even license to use a copyrighted work, you should go to the source first rather than making assumptions.
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Poster: | jonc | Date: | Jun 8, 2008 9:22am |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Re: Help with some incoming films' rifghts? |
This post was modified by jonc on 2008-06-08 16:22:24