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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Dec 3, 2008 4:15am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: paulypecker - troll

Yes I do believe he is.

And I'm pretty amazed by the those of you who find his incontinent approach to posting and manufactured enthusiasms 'endearing'.

Consider these well-known pointers to troll activity:

1 a lack of buy-in to the list philosophy or values
2 generally low level of activity, with sudden spurts of interaction - or perhaps a new persona that has strong opinions on controversial subjects
3 a mixture of friendly posts with a confrontational style of interaction
4 the use of provocative language and sweeping generalisations about certain topics or categories of people
5 a lack of in-depth understanding of the topic
6 a lack of personal information
7 a lack of a genuinely unique perspective on the topic
8 a lack of humour
9 restarting topics that have already been done
10 use of language that encourages the dialogue to enter topics that are controversial and likely to upset some team members
11 the use of an attention-seeking gimmick (e.g.: "I was once exploited by an XYZ")
12 they follow up their own articles if the group doesn't respond to their posts

Mr Pecker has shown definite signs of meeting points 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 and 12. Maybe not enough to convict, but certainly enough to make me suspicious.

MP3 conversion question? Streaming? Can you download with your headphones plugged in? (loved that one) Did Jerry speak Spanish? What's your favourite Jack Straw? And what's the difference between an early and a late show? Hang your head if you took that one seriously.

Mr Pecker's disingenuous queries designed to garner responses from well-meaning members, interspersed with foot-stampingly petulant putdowns of anyone who challenges him, seem deliberately calculated to divide opinion about him. Earl simply asked for his thoughts and got this little outburst in response:

"I never asked a question to any one person in particular. I threw questions out for ANYONE in the FORUM to respond to. Why ask me personally? I didn't address the question to any certain person or the " elders" that you refer to that you say know it all and don't want to be bothered with so-called "GD 101" inquiries. I'm asking questions to the entire forum. You are NOT the entire forum,by yourself, and it's obvious ,by the responses in my favor, that you DO NOT represent the forum as a whole. NO ONE does. Do you realize that? OF COURSE I don't know it all. That's why I inquire. You're reading too deep into me. If I ask a question, that means I don't know the answer. You believe what you want to believe.What would be the point in asking about something I already know? Look, people have been assuming things about me that are NOT accurate. I'm "fake", I'm this or that. Why are these people so worried about why I ask questions,questions I really don't know the answer to? I don't know all the answers. I'd just like to be educated a bit in this forum without causing paranoia amongst you.
And NO, I don't know the answer to your question. Obviously you do. So just tell US and don't single me out. I feel like I'm in high school with this BS line of questioning. MY QUESTIONS ARE REAL and I don't have the time or patience to deal with this ridiculous back and forth."

He Live's, who's probably forgotten more than I or Mr Pecker will ever know, got this evidently well-thought out nugget:

"Sorry I'm not as well-versed as you are,YOUR HOLINESS. It seems no one is. Try reality once in a while you might enjoy that too. Why are you such a harsh person to deal with. Too many bad trips. I'm old enough and quite knowledgeable about the band. I'm also comfortable in my own skin and don't feel the need to get on people's nerves like you seem to have the uncontrollable urge to do. I'm sure you are not a young guy, so don't you think it's time to grow up? Or are you going to live your life with a chip on your shoulder? That's your choice, and only yours. Just wanted to let you know how I personally view YOUR posts-as negative,childish, and of no importance for the family of Heads that I am happily part of. I don't understand your kind and I don't really care about your views. They are pointless,arrogant and not what the world of The Dead and it's fans are all about. Keep living your little charade of a life and do as you wish,as I know you will, but there's a lot more to your life,my friend, than being rude,sarcastic, and harsh toward others. Try being nice sometime,if you are able to. I think you will find it more satisfying than causing people grief. It seems you get off on it. Whatever floats your boat. Good luck! "

Do you hear the sound of someone protesting just a little too much? Do you hear the sound of the stick stirring in the swill pail? Troll or not, I find Mr Pecker's behaviour to be very far from endearing.

The great thing about an open door policy on the Brokedown Palace is that you never know who's going to come strolling in. It's just a shame when some people forget to wipe their shoes and leave nasty marks on the carpet.

Fare you well, my honeys.




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Poster: daliguana Date: Dec 3, 2008 7:06am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: paulypecker - troll

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Poster: William Tell Date: Dec 3, 2008 7:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: paulypecker - troll

That is frickin funny Dali! Yep, Earl (thanks again for the kind words), I am amazed at the consistent contributions of a number of our friends here (I do not count myself among them since all I do lately is talk) like Arb, Tiger, Dali, and a few others that actually provide real "services" or actual "product", and the very few whose words alone I often find real value in (eg, Ashes, LintoAshes, Strat, HeL, Monte, veb and CPW), but that is more than likely just because most of them share the love of 60s DEAD with me so I can relate (but am still amazed that almost every day they can tell me something about even that period that I didn't know...or sadly, knew but forgot...getting scary that way...). EDIT: keep forgetting him, but Wayne reminded me: Lou is another of the few, the brave, the competent, the potentially liable (ha! know you have thought about it but forged ahead; good on you, Lou!) that has done a thing or two to help spread the music around...
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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Dec 3, 2008 2:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: paulypecker - troll over bay toe vin

it's an honor just to be mentioned in the same sentence and it's true that some of you all (WT, Dali, Rob, Ashes, LIAshes, Strat, HeL, Monte, Arb, HeLives, veb, A + + + ...I have company - distracted at the moment; we're playing the $3 Arf Arf label sampler (2008) with stuff from their catalog stretching from 1965-1990, & it rocks: "Garageaholic! Psychedelic! Outsider Music!" it sounds better than ever, new remastering. While some of the the L M Archive upgrading ain't always audible, they're still a good reason to keep checking back to listen to previously low-fi and mid-fi Dead tapes But it's absolutely the BBC soul brothers and sistah on board witch makes this bus worth chasing... for an enlightening and even rewarding experience. I'm saying Happy Thanksgiving and merry Chrimble for sharing; and for appreciating - even if you never post and are too shy to risk having a brand new tailpipe impudently installed... BUT (flame on!) HEY: This ain't the March of Dimes, PP. Here there be tygers brightly backlashing the socially challenged gadflys attracted by both honey and poo-poohing... hey, I didn't even know what troll really meant until today... Photobucket
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Poster: Earl B. Powell Date: Dec 3, 2008 7:08am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: paulypecker - troll

OK, so I forgot to mention Dali, for all the great cover artwork that gets displayed around here. A downright fine contributor and deserves a seat to the right of William the Tell.

Just read the signs.

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Poster: Earl B. Powell Date: Dec 3, 2008 6:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: paulypecker - troll

Hey Rob! Interesting take and not off the mark. I think I stated my case fairly, even if a touch condescending. Fact of the matter is that if you wind up here, you've typically been on the bus for a while and the subject matter tends toward the "esoteric" rather than known "facts." There's normally a quid pro quo in terms of give and take, that didn't appear to be happening in this case.

Even at my advanced age, I regard a number of folks around here as "teachers" or "gurus." Many have very specialized areas where they show their worth, such as Arb, bringing all the JGB into the light. Tigerbolt is another worthy of mention. HL has written some amazing documents worthy of publication at a higher level. Even SDH bringing our daily bread and WT anchoring our feet in 68 make for a worthwhile learning experience. Each for different reasons are deserving of respect, even though none would demand it.

I don't count myself among those folks, but if I were studying anything at the feet of a master, would show some respect rather than act the whippersnapper. I believe that many of us agree that we have rightly or wrongly attached a higher meaning to all this, and normally don't question one another on their motivations or intent.





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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Dec 3, 2008 7:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: paulypecker - troll

There you are wrong, sir. I actually do demand it. Don't often get it, but demand it anyway.

C'mon now, saying "Hey, we aren't talking about your lovelife here" is a little beneath us? No? And leave that one alone as well. You are bunch of sickos.

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Poster: Earl B. Powell Date: Dec 3, 2008 8:43am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: paulypecker - troll

Demanding respect around here is like demanding sympathy elsewhere; It's located somewhere between shit and syphilis in the dictionary, look it up.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Dec 3, 2008 9:18am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: paulypecker - troll

Shit and syphillis?

Now that sounds like an unforgettable weekend road trip.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Dec 3, 2008 6:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: paulypecker - troll

Well look what the troll brought in! It's about time. You missed "roll call" a while back but at least Ashes chimed in, so we were all happy over our Thanksgiving dinners.

We have had some surprisingly informative posting with HeLives, veb, and CPW schooling us on all matters of informative early Dead trivia, from Billy's fake ID to Magoo's menu...seriously. But what you really missed was a three volume production on WWII, Keynes and the election that Grendel, Earl and NC put together with contributions from all the posters. It will be req'd reading for all the newbies so that ought to cut down on the trolling activity.

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Dec 3, 2008 9:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Wow! Remind not to get on your collective bad sides

I got on the bus in '73 and rode until '79. For the next 24 years I drove submarines and it was tough to get to many shows until late '94. So I count on the collective experience of the umm, more 'seasoned' veterans to keep me on track as I fill in the blanks from '80 on.

I hope I haven't poked anyone in the eye too hard along the way.

I don't want any of you guys coming along and blacking my eye and kicking my dog.

Be well.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Dec 3, 2008 9:29am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wow! Remind not to get on your collective bad sides

I thought they "flew?" Literally; but do you still say "drive?"

Cool.

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Dec 3, 2008 9:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wow! Remind not to get on your collective bad sides

If you are picturing the underwater scenes from "Hunt For Red October" there was a lot of literary license taken. Especially the parts where a 26,000 ton Typhoon slips and yaws through the water at 28 knots - it just doesn't happen like that.

Now when a Los Angeles class accelerates from Ahead 1/3 to Ahead Flank the boat rolls about 10 degrees when the shaft torque is picked up by the thrust bearing and transferred to the hull as the boat accelerates.

That is cool.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Dec 3, 2008 9:48am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wow! Remind not to get on your collective bad sides

And that is without a doubt the coolest post of the day.

Wonderful.

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Poster: snori Date: Dec 3, 2008 11:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wow! Remind not to get on your collective bad sides

Hi Rob,

Since you're in the vicinity again, did you catch Desert Island Discs ? (I can't really believe that you didn't)

Michael Eavis was the castaway, and he confessed to being a 'Deadhead'and seeing the boys in London. I'm guessing 1972 Lyceum. He chose UJB as one of his eight. Shame he couldn't get them over for one of the festivals, but it might explain how that Dark Star made it onto the triple album. Repeated Friday a.m.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Dec 3, 2008 12:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wow! Remind not to get on your collective bad sides

Hi snori - as it happens I didn't catch DI Discs on Sunday. The girls usually go off to do yoga on Sunday morning and I generally take the chance to relax with the Sunday papers and the Grateful Dead rather than listen to the radio. I'm very glad to have the head's up on Michael Eavis and I'll be sure to listen in to the Friday repeat. Thank you.

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Dec 3, 2008 10:01am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wow! Remind not to get on your collective bad sides

Yeah - that Kicks Ass

Love learning interesting stuff about the folks hereabouts.

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Dec 3, 2008 10:15am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Almost Being Serious Here.....

That's why I like lurking on the board and occasionally tossing stuff out there.

Submarine operations was a day to day way of life for me. I have found over the years that what I took for granted was pretty interesting for other people. When we would give tours, people always remarked on the size of the galley (kitchen for the landlubbers), and were amazed by the size of our freezer (about the size of a handball court - and it doubled as a morgue). They were less impressed by the 78" x 30" x 24" bunk we all called home - perhaps sympathetic.

Being a student and instrtuctor of Bruce Lee's art of Jun Fan Jeet Kune Do, I try to embrace Sifu Lee's quote:

"Everyone knows something you do not. Learn from them."

Thanks for the opportunity to share.

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Dec 3, 2008 10:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Almost Being Serious Here.....

I spent 6 years on top of the waves working in the commercial fishing industry - people are still amazed when I tell them one of the first boats I worked on was a 43 foot fiberglass vessel that the Capt and 3 crew would live on and work on for 6 to 9 day trips about 125 miles offshore - no fridge no heat no running water.

Perishables were kept in the fishhold ice (a deck box was our main hold as 43 boats don't have much 'hold' capacity.

We carried all fresh water in carry aboard jugs and most of our fuel was on deck in 44 gallon plastic barrels.

Yes it was wet and yes we got our asses kicked in storms .

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Dec 3, 2008 10:46am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Almost Being Serious Here.....

That is real sailoring.

My worst weather event was a Force 9 gale north of Norway in late '91. We were taking 10 degree rolls at a keel depth of 245 feet. The Skipper estimated 65-80 foot seas. We were on our way up to periscope depth to get some message traffic via antenna and the boat got sucked up from 95 feet to broached in about two seconds.

40 degree rolls on the surface, in a storm, in a boat that has a round keel is not in any way, shape or form, Cool. It just plain sucks.

It was one of the few times in my career that I was afraid for my life.

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Dec 3, 2008 11:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Almost Being Serious Here.....

Yeah that does not sound fun, sounds pretty damn hairy in fact - the one time I actually thought "Wow we could go down" was a trip we were fishing off of Cape Hatteras in winter time - we awoke to 40-50 knot winds and 15-20 foot seas (nothing we hadn't seen before), we had 10 or 15 miles of gear in the water (longlining) so had to 'go to work'. Well we started hauling back and the weather just kept building to where it was probably 50-60 and 20-25 foot seas and out of nowhere we got broadsided by two pretty good waves in a row and I looked up and there was the third wave looming like the proverbial mountain - I yelled out "Hang On" as load as I could and grabbed hold of the Bait table in a big bear hug - and this wall of water came down on and laid our 63 foot steel boat on her side (Cliff , this was the Snoopy II). After the wave passed I was on the high side with Water above my knees, the Cap'n was laying flat on his back on the side of the Cabin, the butcher was washing around the middle of the deck in about 3-4 feet of water and our port outrigger was buried and the starboard rigger was pointed straight up at the sky. It seemed like it took forever for the boat to come back to an even keel with the massive amounts of water pouring out of the scuppers. I remember thinking to myself "If there was just one more big wave in that train we probably would have been capsized". Anyway - there was no other wave and I'm here to tell the story. The Cap'n decided to cut the rest of the gear loose and declare it a loss - it think it was 2 or 3 miles of gear at $1,000 dollars a mile. By cutting the gear loose we could actually drive to a proper course to suit the conditions as when hauling back you have to run parallel to the gear so you don't have many options, and unfortunately for us the gear happened to be fairly parallel to the waves that day (perpendicular to the wind). It was the only time I ever felt vulnerable on that boat.

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Dec 3, 2008 3:12pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Almost Being Serious Here.....

Jim, that sounds pretty scary,,,because on the Snoopy II, you were risking your life with the boat still tied to the dock!

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Dec 4, 2008 5:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Almost Being Serious Here.....

Aw she wasn't a bad boat while I worked on her. I recently saw Provider II heading out - now that glass boat was 15 or 16 when I worked on her in 1986!! I could not believe she was still fishing - sure hope they weren't going offshore!!

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Dec 3, 2008 12:18pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Almost Being Serious Here.....

I've only seen the Three Sisters wave phenomenon twice in almost 13 years of sea tours. Once in the Gulf Stream North Wall on the edge of a cold core eddy just east of Hatteras and once at an undisclosed location doing, umm, never mind.

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Dec 3, 2008 1:39pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Almost Being Serious Here.....

My encounter would have been 90 or 91, you motivated me to look up and scan some pics - I'm the guy holding the small Mako and a Budwiser.

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Dec 3, 2008 1:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Wow

Impressive.

Looks like you were just outrunning the set in the last pic - were those following seas or were you just stuck sliding sideways down the trough.

I'll look around for some more boat pics and get them hung up here.

First one is us on the surface at about 15 knots.
Second one is CITY of CORPUS CHRISTI running about due east - very cool shot with the backlighting.



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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Dec 3, 2008 2:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wow

We were steaming home from Hatteras to LI and had following seas off port quarter for many hours - the photos don't do it justice - it was actually a pretty nice ride as they were long rollers with one occasionally cresting. For someone prone to seasickness it would have been very uncomfortable however. Most of the water on deck was basically side wash from slewing - the boat was a low boat and the rail was only up to my knee - in other words a 'wet boat'. Those are really cool pics, I've always been pretty amazed about subs - never been on one but I can imagine it must have been pretty damn neat.
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Poster: William Tell Date: Dec 3, 2008 3:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wow

Fuckin A! You really are serious...those are some disturbing, yet beautiful, pics...

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Dec 3, 2008 3:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wow

I was an anchor-out on Richardson's Bay, on Waldo Point in Sausalito in the '70s.
Here's the whole sordid story -
http://crow-fjord.livejournal.com/1454.html

but worse than that were the not quite nauticals squatting at Gate 5 who (true story) built their own sailboat on the dry dock from some bozo's blueprints, stocked the sloop up with a big bags of pecans and oranges (and nothing else besides water)...
they sailed west for Tahiti from this side of Alcatraz in search of paradise, and never got there...

the hull wasn't made with wood my friends...
they built the the boat bottom with cement, no shit.

And sank like a stone a few miles out.
Those poor PCs who wouldn't touch meat or share their pecans with less enlightened hippies never came back.

Ghouls among you might care to read the whole story and more about the ex-Haight St. water squatters of Sausalito somewhere at this troll-infested bilge:

http://www.waldopoint.net/rip/rip.html

My dad was in the Sea Scouts and did time in a submarine during the Korean conflict, so he knew which way was aft...
he died aboard his cabin cruiser berthed at Gate III.

Sail on, brother... sail away papathon...

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Dec 4, 2008 5:02am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wow

That is a sordid story - thanks for the link. Love the shots of the menu - NY Steak $10.50, tap beer $0.75. Nice slice of history.

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Dec 7, 2008 1:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wow

Glad you got a chance to skim the good ol' Trident menu, presumably with drool cup fastened securely... those 10 buck steaks were juicy red tender mignon and thick as a brick! And in keeping with the reasonably priced fare, Sausalito scuttlebutts weren't above leaving, on one occasion for what reason I can't imagine, a big fat five cent tip! No kidding, a plug nickel. I presume that particular patron swiped a few dozen extra plys of t.p. on the way out. Waste not, want not! It was hard work and we deserved at least a quarter for washing their ashtrays... yes, back in the day when there were smoking & non-smoking sections. One dishwasher was so exhasted he had a novel solution for soaking the incoming tubs of dirty dinnerware... he chucked a boatload or two into the the bay before low tide turned against his burial at sea policy. I revisited the restaraunt a few months after my own employment there ran aground; with two lovely gals on my arms we walked in spannered from rum zombies.... we were politely ushered through the interior mid-sections directly to the outdoor deck, and rather than be seated the hostess opened the gate, gestured for us to walk on, delicately closing it behind us... we had been gently but firmly launched from the premises. Photobucket
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Poster: Sausalito Date: Mar 10, 2009 10:30am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wow

What happened to Waldopoint.net? Now I see something called laughdragon.net, with no links to other pages. Just go to waldopoint.net and see.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Dec 3, 2008 12:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Almost Being Serious Here.....

Speaking of physics, there's a lot of it in that little scary post of yours...

Never have been a fan of the big waters, just speaking personally...

Much prefer my own two feet firmly planted, but I am a wimp.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Dec 3, 2008 11:13am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Almost Being Serious Here.....

Actually, a very close friend served for years, 70s thru 80s, and always spoke of "flying" them as my understanding is that is what a sub "does" in water, and that the physics of it is akin to a plane in air, etc., etc.

Cool stuff indeed.

Thanks.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Dec 3, 2008 11:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Almost Being Serious Here.....

I've always know it to be "driver". One of my father's best friends while we were growing up in the northeast was a retired sub driver down in Groton, CT. Not sure which boat was his, but I do remember many cool stories about his service in the late 50's up through the late 60's. I'm guessing that the coolest stories were the ones he couldn't tell. Some quice digging shows him to have first served on the Wahoo, the Hadner and then XO of the Gudgeon and the Horne
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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Dec 3, 2008 11:29am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Almost Being Serious Here.....

Bingo

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Poster: William Tell Date: Dec 3, 2008 11:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Almost Being Serious Here.....I am too...

Oh, I have no doubt about you two having it right as he never said "I fly a sub" or some such...he was just always going on about the mechanics of it (we were in physics together as partners way back when) and I thought maybe it carried over to the lingo...

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Poster: Earl B. Powell Date: Dec 3, 2008 11:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Almost Being Serious Here.....I am too...

Oooohhhh SDH, please tell me this isn't just another shipboard romance... (From the Tales of Human Pathos, on the High Seas, Below Deck. Credit R. Crumb)
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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Dec 3, 2008 12:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Almost Being Serious Here.....I am too...

Billy Budd is awaiting you below deck. Careful he doesn't lash your mast.
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Poster: He Live's Date: Dec 3, 2008 8:18am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: The Wordsmith has spoken, paulypecker - troll

robthewordsmith joins the group of my online "friends" (i know, we're not exactly buddies) such as dead head monte and ashesrising who are receptive to my "psychic messages"..... indeed, i was thinking of you yesterday. "i wonder what RtWS would say?....what happened to that guy? haven't heard from him in awhile" i thought.... and what do you know -- not only there you are -- you come storming back on the board like some wig wearing barrister armed with a detailed argument for the board's approval.

well, "Here Here" my man -- your well thought out argument is irrefutable! you put the whole thing down exactly sir. forget the Grateful Dead, or some newbies enthusiasm and naive quest for enlightenment. you struck squarely at the heart of the matter -- the questions may have been dead-related, but the Manner and Attitude is 100% Troll.

here's One For the Trolls, Rob just gave you the boot.

(and rob, you are too kind -- i am just a regular deadhead like yourself, i see us all as equals around here, just about all the regulars i know are just here for the enjoyment of the music -- and we all are just ultimately "enhancing" the experience by posting here and pointing each other in different directions: liamfinn, cliff, WT, arb, earl, elbow, light into ashes, veblen, grendel, jglynn, SDH, high flow, wharf, user unknown, daliguana, whirlwind, lobster, bluedevil, smgarcia, rings and lou.... there are many more i am missing -- but i think we are all pretty much here for the same reason -- the fakers are relatively few.)

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Poster: William Tell Date: Dec 3, 2008 8:52am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Wordsmith has spoken, paulypecker - troll

I hadn't realize the little Brit shit had been gone almost a month! Was pissed he didn't show for roll call.

When will the court provide a ruling?

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Dec 3, 2008 9:34am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Wordsmith has spoken, paulypecker - troll

WT - I'm sorry that I missed your roll call. I watched it happen and was pleased by the warmth of the response you got. I didn't feel able to join in at the time but I intended no slight towards your good self - I hope you'll understand.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Dec 3, 2008 11:15am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Wordsmith has spoken, paulypecker - troll

Of course good friend, of course--just was worried you might have fallen on tough times rather than something SDH surprised you with, but glad to see by your presence you are alive and well (enough) and posting your usual provocative and insightful whilst well crafted contributions.

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Poster: He Live's Date: Dec 3, 2008 8:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Wordsmith has spoken, paulypecker - troll

he swoops in and drops a bomb and then he is off! disappeared in a purple haze....

i am off to work now MR T, i will check back tonight....


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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Dec 3, 2008 9:10am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Wordsmith has spoken, paulypecker - troll

I'm a little Brit shit with a flat head mill
But I'll walk a thunderbird like it's standin' still
I'm ported and relieved and I'm stroked and bored.
I'll do a hundred and forty with the top end floored
I'm a little Brit shit
You don't know what I got
(I'm a little Brit shit)
(You don't know what I got)

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Dec 3, 2008 9:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Wordsmith has spoken, paulypecker - troll

"You don't know what I got"

Nor do I want to.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Dec 3, 2008 9:33am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Wordsmith has spoken, paulypecker - troll

That's you off the surprise package list then ...

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Dec 3, 2008 9:42am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Wordsmith has spoken, paulypecker - troll

No one will be backing down my chimney to stuff my stocking this year. Not without dinner and a moo-vie first.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Dec 3, 2008 9:46am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Wordsmith has spoken, paulypecker - troll

I wouldn't be backing towards you under any circumstances, you old banjo plucker.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Dec 3, 2008 9:15am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Wordsmith has spoken, paulypecker - troll

I am sooo glad you took that the right way...way too far perhaps, but still funny enough.

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Poster: Stealz Date: Dec 3, 2008 7:19am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: paulypecker - troll

Nice post Rob. Please come 'round more often, eh?

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Poster: squirrel barker Date: Dec 3, 2008 4:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: paulypecker - troll

Sounds like the little prick who tried to take my baseball glove then throw it down the stormdrain when Iwas about to catch him,Major Noogies were applied believe me.Thank god I heard Workingmans Dead soon after.To The Highest!