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Poster:	wineland	Date:	Jan 8, 2009 3:55pm
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Deadbangers (non-Dead)

Any other deadhead headbangers out there?

I was emailing with some buddies and one of them brought up the Scorpions. Took me back to when I was 17, just before I stepped onto The Bus. Thought I'd share a my Monsters of Rock experience...

I saw the Scorps (as we headbangers call 'em) July 27, 1988 in the Seattle Kingdom on the Monsters of Rock tour. The line up in order of appearance was Kingdom Come > Dokken > Scorpions > Metallica > Van Halen. I was fully impressed with the Scorpions. I've liked them ever since I bought the Blackout album, and I mean record, at Fred Meyers when I was 12. It was Van Halen's first tour since David Lee Roth left the band. VH was promoting the OU812 release. Michael Anthony played a Jack Daniels bass guitar. At one point during the show he grabbed a half gallon of JD and downed a third of it in a single drink. Metallica was about to release And Justice for All and played a few songs off their new album. The played tons of songs off their previous release Master of Puppers, which is a front to back all time great mastery of work. Needless to say I was there for Metallica which was only second to my favorite Iron Maiden. Actually, Ozzy and Guns N Roses were in a three way tie for second with Metallica. A year later I saw the way and the light and got on the Grateful Dead bus.

wineland

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Poster:	fenario80	Date:	Jan 8, 2009 4:06pm
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Deadbangers (non-Dead)

mmmmm ... I'm not sure what kind of response you're expecting, but I'm with you on the Scorpions. Hardcore headbanging like only the Germans can do it. I've always loved that band, but I never saw them live.

Van Halen I've seen several times but always hated: Eddie's a genius but has no taste. Van Halen are also well known for their theatricality and stage craft - I'd bet you half of Phil's liver that JD bottle was full of apple juice ...

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Poster:	wineland	Date:	Jan 8, 2009 4:20pm
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Deadbangers (non-Dead)

We debated at the time whether it was JD or juice. You can keep Phil's liver cause I think you are right.

Those Germans do know how to rock it Rockpalast style.

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Poster:	BongWzrd	Date:	Jan 9, 2009 12:19pm
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Deadbangers (non-Dead)

WOW!!! I thought I was alone in that crowd...Glad to see Heads that respect metal... Bands I have seen live (Metal or Hard Rock).... Cannibal Corpse (Chris Barnes) Six Feet Under Slayer Pantera SlipKnot Deftones Sleepytime Gorrila Museum Black Sabbath (1999 OzFest) White Zombie Deicide Mastadon Arch Enemy The Melvins Buckethead I have seen Primus over 25 times and have been obssesed with Van Halen (David Lee Roth years only) since I was 6.. I grew up in the 80's, so Hair Metal and Cock Rock domminated the airwaves.... I also think Mettalica's first 4 albums are brillance...
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Poster:	bluedevil	Date:	Jan 9, 2009 10:48am
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Deadbangers (non-Dead)

I saw Slayer in Prague - still only crowd that truly scared me.

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Poster:	wineland	Date:	Jan 9, 2009 12:18pm
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Deadbangers (non-Dead)

Mosh pits at Fishbone and Janes Addiction were fun, but I always kept on my feet for fear of being trampled. I can't imagine an Eastern European Slayer mosh pit.

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Poster:	NoiseCollector	Date:	Jan 9, 2009 12:20pm
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Deadbangers (non-Dead)

That must have been a unique experience.

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Poster:	bluedevil	Date:	Jan 9, 2009 12:26pm
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Deadbangers (non-Dead)

neo-nazis, skinheads, drunks, expats, etc. good times (i survived).

fisbhone and primus did a tour back together down the eastern seaboard in around '89 (can't recall year); went to a lot of those shows. fun mix of crowds.

will say primus and public enemy at kaiser day of fires in oakland hills was one of the more interesting mix of fans (and then primus jumped from that tour to open for rush!).

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Poster:	NoiseCollector	Date:	Jan 9, 2009 12:38pm
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Deadbangers (non-Dead)

Helmet, Leeway and Prong at the Ritz in Manhattan has to be the sickest mosh pit I have seen from the inside. It started outside down the street before the bands came on. I had bottles busted over my head before I even got inside by a several dozen skinheads that were welcoming people with hair to the show. Good times indeed.

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Poster:	CompSurfahV2	Date:	Jan 9, 2009 3:03am
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Deadbangers (non-Dead)

I could make a list... So this may be updated periodically during the day.... I lived 80s Hair-Band, Arena Rock.. I recall seeing the "Monsters of Rock" Tour... Loved every one of those bands. Except Kingdom "Clone" was not there when I saw them. I will neither conform, nor deny, that I had the required 80s "mullet."
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Poster:	whirlwind dreamer 65-95	Date:	Jan 9, 2009 5:15am
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Deadbangers (non-Dead)

sure thing wine i seen the scorpions back in 82 at that providence show,also seen these bands which i still listen to every once in awhile. all in providence> rush/rory gallager> blue oyster cult with foghat/ black sabbath.ozzy,judas priest n iron maiden.jethro tull,.dio,j. geils band,ufo,alice cooper,of course zappa,neil young,and i cant remember the rest lol!! i do know my first concert ever was the motor city madman TED NUGENT 1978' cool post mr. wineland

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Poster:	wineland	Date:	Jan 9, 2009 8:53am
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Deadbangers (non-Dead)

My first concert was Jethro Tull. I think it was 1986. Saw it in the Paramount Theatre, the same venue as the Dead comeback in 1976. The tour was called, Not Quite the World Tour, More the Here and There Tour. The name of the tour always cracked me up.

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Poster:	not_your_typical_daydream	Date:	Jan 10, 2009 8:18am
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Deadbangers (non-Dead)

I used to be a major headbanger. That was the only type of music worth listening to (in my youthful, my music's better kind of way) I went to see all the greats back then, Iron Maiden, Ozzy, Judas Priest, Scorpions, Metallica, Megadeth, AC/DC, Motley Crue, Van Hagar, Accept, Armored Saint, Kiss, Queensryche, and the list goes on and on. Leather jacket, Levi's, Nike high tops and a mullet. Oh yeah. One of the better shows I went to was a Day on the Green in 1985. It was Victory, Yngwie, Metallica, Y&T, Ratt, and the Scorpions. Headbanger heaven.
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Poster:	wineland	Date:	Jan 10, 2009 8:38am
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Deadbangers (non-Dead)

Judas Priest was hands down the loudest concert I have ever heard. Wow, the put on a show!

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Poster:	barongsong	Date:	Jan 8, 2009 6:56pm
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Deadbangers (non-Dead)

My first rock concert was The Scorpions and some start up band called Bon Jovi at the Providence Civic Center on the '82' Love at First Sting tour, I think. Got me hooked on going to concerts and started seeing Heavy Metal bands every chance I got. Actually, it was this mad passion for conert-going that finally led me to the Grateful Dead and the ultimate concert experience, but that's another story.

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Poster:	spacedface	Date:	Jan 8, 2009 9:44pm
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Deadbangers (non-Dead)

Does ushering a Pantera show at the Warfield for brownie points count?

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Poster:	barongsong	Date:	Jan 9, 2009 4:00am
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Deadbangers (non-Dead)

Sure why not probably right up there with my going backstage to meet Triumph story.

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Poster:	rastamon	Date:	Jan 9, 2009 6:11am
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Deadbangers (non-Dead)

hey spacedface, I was out of line on that last hamas post to you and I apologise, if you're a dad, you're probably a grate one. At least i did'nt bring up farm animals love connections. And I would never insult any wolves here. Peace I knew a Warfield usher who's name escapes me...he worked at the Livermore Radio Shack in the mid 90's (i washed the windows there) he had a bumper sticker that said "Mean People Suck" I'm forever grateful to him for turning me on to Phish
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Poster:	spacedface	Date:	Jan 9, 2009 12:42pm
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Deadbangers (non-Dead)

As you may have guessed I'm a little spacey and lose track of personal insults often, except when frat boy types would insult the weird Deadheads.

I can assure I will do everything in my power to keep our beloved Freedonia at peace with the world:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uM01v_vVnbg

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Poster:	barongsong	Date:	Jan 9, 2009 9:12am
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Deadbangers (non-Dead)

Yea and tell Milford the security guy at the Warfield in 89-90 I said Hi and, Thanks.

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Poster:	The Other One The Middle One	Date:	Jan 9, 2009 8:14am
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Deadbangers (non-Dead)

Second concert I went to was Point Blank>Iron Maiden>.38 Special. I think Iron Maiden had just released Number of the Beast cause I came with a shirt that said that. MTV was playing the Run to the Hills video (with the Indians on the bicycle built for 8) fairly regularly.

So Maiden comes out and tears the place apart. Then Eddy (remember that big-ass "robot" thing) comes out. These three stoned rednecks in front of me about shit. "Goddamn. What da heeelllll is that?" Guess they was there for .38 Special.

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Poster:	wineland	Date:	Jan 9, 2009 9:04am
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Deadbangers (non-Dead)

I can't imagine the 38 Special crowds reaction to Iron Maiden. Damn that's a funny visual. Why, that'd be like the Grateful Dead opening for Engelbert Humperdinck.

***2 points to me for working in a Humperdinck reference, the first of it's kind on the Forum.

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Poster:	wineland	Date:	Jan 9, 2009 9:36am
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Deadbangers (non-Dead)

Yeah, you got me there. Femmes & Dead, that's just crazy speak.

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Poster:	barongsong	Date:	Jan 9, 2009 9:24am
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Deadbangers (non-Dead)

That would be like Anthrax opening for mid 80's Rush or the Violent Femmes opening for the Dead or something.

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Poster:	The Other One The Middle One	Date:	Jan 9, 2009 10:29am
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Deadbangers (non-Dead)

Loggins and Messina opening for Kiss--Destroyer Tour, of course.

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Poster:	barongsong	Date:	Jan 9, 2009 5:55pm
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Deadbangers (non-Dead)

Oh, that one takes the cake for sure.

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Poster:	buscameby	Date:	Jan 9, 2009 9:42am
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Deadbangers (non-Dead)

I don't know if this counts as 'headbangers' but I was a big fan of the Ramones and the 'Dead Kennedys' back in the day.

I remember being in some of the first mosh pits in the late 70's. We were young and dumb and you know the rest, anyway to release that pent up frustration when we were to drunk to hit on the ladies-lol.

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Poster:	bluedevil	Date:	Jan 9, 2009 10:03am
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Deadbangers (non-Dead)

Ditto on Ramones and DK, but for "heaviness" I saw Voivod, Soundgarden and Danzig at the Stone in SF in mid-80s - w/ members of Metallica and Primus in attendance. Bit different vibe than Jerry shows (although Ler from Primus is huge Garcia fan).

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Poster:	fireeagle	Date:	Jan 9, 2009 3:25am
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Deadbangers (non-Dead)

being old enough and positioned right at the time (london) i have witnessed the birth of heavy metal. used to see live regularly led zeppelin, deep purple, pink floyd, jeff beck, rory gallagher, motorhead, etc in the late 60s > 70s >... still my fav listening beside the grateful dead

what qualifies me as the deadbanger is the fact that im still a big motorhead fan, right now my fav among the living rock bands. saw them live many times. the best and the loudest rock band on this planet, still perfectly functional despite it all

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shhERq5abHI&feature=related

headbanging explained
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZHwM0h3D-8&feature=related

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Poster:	snori	Date:	Jan 9, 2009 4:25am
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Deadbangers (non-Dead)

We must be about the same age, as I also saw Deep Purple (Dagenham Roundhouse among others), Zep (Ally Pally 72), Sabs (before 1st album in Bishops Stortford ! and later), and while putting on gigs had Motorhead for an unforgettable evening.

However about that time a friend played LIve Dead to me and I moved on to West Coast music and rarely look back.

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Poster:	fireeagle	Date:	Jan 9, 2009 7:53am
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Deadbangers (non-Dead)

ally pally 72? i was there too. front, dead center, right on the fence, 5 feet from the stage

me and a few others didnt look back. being in front and standing, we didnt realise that everybody behind us has seated down on the floor and that we were obstructing the view for at least couple of hundred freaks. when the band came out, the booing started and the beer and coke cans were flying all around me. only then i looked back, realised whats happening and forced my way down to the incredibly tightly packed floor

good times, bad times

gotta look over ur shoulder occasionally

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Poster:	wineland	Date:	Jan 9, 2009 9:11am
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Deadbangers (non-Dead)

"gotta look over ur shoulder occasionally"

That's good advice right there. The kind that you might hear from your Grandpappy.

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Poster:	TheWaY	Date:	Jan 9, 2009 8:21am
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Deadbangers (non-Dead)

Does the Black Crowes at Further Fest 97 count? That's about as heavy as I've gotten....

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Poster:	wineland	Date:	Jan 9, 2009 8:56am
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Deadbangers (non-Dead)

Sure, we'll award a point to you. They put on a tremendous show. Fans of the Crowes and Phil should take a listen to this show:

The Black Crowes
20 December 2008T
The Fillmore - San Francisco, CA

Feelin' Alright
Stare It Cold
High Head Blues -> Jam
Space Captain
Seeing Things
Young Man, Old Man
Let Me Share The Ride
Descending
Downtown Money Waster -> Jam ->
Mona ->
Take Off From The Future ->
Thorn In My Pride
Polly
Oh Josephine
Feathers
Movin' On Down The Line
Remedy
- encore -
Sugaree
Cold Rain And Snow
New Speedway Boogie


Phil Lesh played bass on "Sugaree", "Cold Rain And Snow", and "New Speedway Boogie"

Sven played acoustic guitar on "Sugaree", "Cold Rain And Snow", and "New Speedway Boogie"

last "Feelin' Alright" - 7/19/97

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Poster:	billydlions	Date:	Jan 8, 2009 6:23pm
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Deadbangers (non-Dead)

I saw the Scorpions in '84. Saw Metallica open for Ozzy ('87?), Priest, Maiden (Powerslave tour). Too many others to list. The one band I never saw was Sabbath.

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Poster:	NoiseCollector	Date:	Jan 9, 2009 12:22pm
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Deadbangers (non-Dead)

I was at the Phily show of that tour before they started naming stadiums after pharmacueticals, clothing lines and banks.

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Poster:	wineland	Date:	Jan 9, 2009 12:43pm
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Deadbangers (non-Dead)

That big money stadium naming worked out well for those companies. Wasn't there a stadium that was MCI Worldcom locked into the name by contract long after they collapsed?

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Poster:	Finster!	Date:	Jan 9, 2009 1:33pm
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Deadbangers (non-Dead)

No headbanging at all for me....unless you count Rush or ZZ Top as headbanginig....which I don't. They would probably be the closest I ever got..or that I ever plan to get. Not my thing.....

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Poster:	Buckdog_101	Date:	Jan 9, 2009 5:57am
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Deadbangers (non-Dead)

I went to that too. It kicked ass but I threwup and passed out twards the end though...I chugged a bottle of peach schnapps in about 20 minutes....ugh. Anyway that Kingdom Come was an asian or German band if I remember correctly and they KICKED serious butt! GNR sucked though.. Good times!!

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Poster:	CompSurfahV2	Date:	Jan 9, 2009 2:52am
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Deadbangers (non-Dead)

Van Hagar's first tour w/o Dave, was 5150... followed by 0U812.

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Poster:	wineland	Date:	Jan 9, 2009 8:42am
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Deadbangers (non-Dead)

Point taken. I was thinking there was too much of a lag between 1984 and the 1988 release of OU812. After Diamond Dave left I was merely a fair-weather fan.

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Poster:	wonsing	Date:	Jan 9, 2009 12:19am
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Deadbangers (non-Dead)

WTF - Wineland ?

that's a real sick habit. you should get help and a vibrator.

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Poster:	wineland	Date:	Jan 9, 2009 9:14am
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: Deadbangers (non-Dead)

My therapist is thoroughly flabbergasted with me and won't return my calls.