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Poster: | finnobrit | Date: | Sep 20, 2009 4:00pm |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Spam from metadata file? |
Is there anything to stop this being spidered by spammers?
Wouldn't it make more sense to include the uploader's username rather than address, or at least alter the address to stop making it so spamcrawler-friendly?
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Poster: | guyzilla | Date: | Sep 20, 2009 6:51pm |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Re: Spam from metadata file? |
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Poster: | jonc | Date: | Sep 20, 2009 7:05pm |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Re: Spam from metadata file? |
http://ia311234.us.archive.org/2/items/natural_born_gambler/natural_born_gambler_meta.xml
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Poster: | NoiseCollector | Date: | Sep 23, 2009 2:55pm |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Re: Spam from metadata file? |
Not to mention a mod here who was on a vandetta and decided to publish personal names and other information. I will say no more on the subject but it happened.
Ironically they boasted on here about how they refused to give the ip's and emails (which were probably bogus anyway) of jihadi's posting snuff films and other stuff... go figure!
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Poster: | skies | Date: | Sep 26, 2009 1:46am |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Re: Spam from metadata file? |
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Poster: | NoiseCollector | Date: | Sep 29, 2009 12:59pm |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Re: Spam from metadata file? |
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Poster: | skies | Date: | Sep 29, 2009 11:52pm |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Re: Spam from metadata file? |
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Poster: | FP | Date: | Sep 30, 2009 6:44am |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Re: Spam from metadata file? |
OPEN SOURCE used to be a place to catch random indy movie trailers, video experiments, oddball home movies, all kinds of fun little surprises that weren't on YouTube. Now those are buried amidst the less fun, war-spawned middle eastern content.
I hate censorship of any kind, so I think these movies should simply be kept in a section apart, due to their smothering number and their inflammatory, and in these repressive times in the USA, potentially illegal content.
Historians might find these enthusiastic videos of interest some day, but they sure are controversial. Only the archive's relative obscurity has prevented more unpleasant attention to this batch of uploads. A few years ago I found a video in OPEN SOURCE that featured the onscreen deaths of several US soldiers in Iraq, with funny cartoon "boing" sound effects and wacky music. The killings were replayed in slow motion, with highlighted areas to show flying body parts. There was a laugh track. Titles and voiceovers were in some kind of curlicue language. That's some weird shit that could cause complications for the archive. It shouldn't have a "chilling effect" that locks out content, but potential difficulty caused by the mere presence of the aforementioned soldier death videos is something that can't be safely ignored. Can you imagine what might happen if Bill O'Reilly or some other TV goon would seize upon this situation, become "outraged", and direct the public's attention to certain crazy war videos in OPEN SOURCE? One weeping war widow reacting, on camera, to a shot of her husband's head being blown off while cartoon music plays could change things in a bad way for the wonderful resource of archive.org.
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Poster: | skies | Date: | Sep 30, 2009 8:20am |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Re: Spam from metadata file? |
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Poster: | guyzilla | Date: | Sep 20, 2009 11:34pm |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Re: Spam from metadata file? |
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Poster: | finnobrit | Date: | Sep 21, 2009 3:33am |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Re: Spam from metadata file? |
Apart from the risk of spammers, archive.org should be warning people very clearly that their address is visible to everyone from all their uploads. This is not only politeness, but a legal requirement in many countries.
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Poster: | billbarstad | Date: | Sep 21, 2009 7:02am |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Re: Spam from metadata file? |
I've contacted IA about this. Hope everyone here does that.
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Poster: | guyzilla | Date: | Sep 21, 2009 2:53pm |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Re: Spam from metadata file? |
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Poster: | Vance Capley | Date: | Sep 21, 2009 5:28pm |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Re: Spam from metadata file? |
Please do not post our private e-mail addresses.
Thank you
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Poster: | Meatpies | Date: | Sep 21, 2009 5:49pm |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Re: Spam from metadata file? |
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Poster: | guyzilla | Date: | Sep 21, 2009 6:11pm |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Re: Spam from metadata file? |
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Poster: | finnobrit | Date: | Sep 22, 2009 12:58am |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Re: Spam from metadata file? |
If they don't respond to us we might post about this e-mail issue on every archive.org forum, and if that doesn't work we could report archive.org to a privacy pressure group or even law enforcement agency.
"No site support, email addresses just out there for anyone to grab and use for spam, absolutely no staff member anywhere to answer any questions, no one to even talk to about helping out on a volunteer basis..."
If things are that bad, it makes me wonder how long archive.org will continue to exist. If they don't have the resources to answer e-mails or even induct volunteers to help out, do they really have the resources to indefinitely host an ever-growing mountain of ever-larger video and other files?
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Poster: | guyzilla | Date: | Sep 22, 2009 2:40am |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Re: Spam from metadata file? |
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Poster: | Dwight Frye | Date: | Sep 22, 2009 5:45am |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Re: Spam from metadata file? |
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Poster: | guyzilla | Date: | Sep 22, 2009 10:47pm |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Re: Spam from metadata file? |
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Poster: | elmagno | Date: | Sep 21, 2009 3:36am |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Critical. |
This post was modified by elmagno on 2009-09-21 10:36:59
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Poster: | finnobrit | Date: | Sep 21, 2009 3:41am |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Re: Critical. |
If you don't respond we'll have to start warning users ourselves about this flaw, they deserve to know whether their addresses are being given out or not.
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Poster: | elmagno | Date: | Sep 21, 2009 4:00am |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Re: Critical. |
I hope I am mistaken, but this seems a huge security issue that needs to be examined right this minute.
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Poster: | finnobrit | Date: | Sep 21, 2009 4:19am |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Re: Critical. |
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Poster: | danielpferreira | Date: | Sep 30, 2013 7:30pm |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Re: Spam from metadata file? |
Sorry for asking in such an old thread, but I couldn't find any other posts about this.
I just recently found out my email appears as metadata in all files I upload. I never thought this information was public.
Thank you in advance for any reply regarding this topic.
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Poster: | jonc | Date: | Sep 20, 2009 4:50pm |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Re: Spam from metadata file? |
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Poster: | finnobrit | Date: | Sep 21, 2009 3:13am |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Re: Spam from metadata file? |
If an address gets flooded with spam you change it, but if you change addresses you no longer have any access to your uploads.
The problem is that archive.org has been built around using e-mail addresses as forms of ID when really it should be using usernames (which are useless to spammers).
And also as someone says, it means that anyone who browses your uploads can get your e-mail address, which is a privacy issue that most uploaders may not be aware of. If archive.org is going to give out every uploader's e-mail address they ought to be warning people before they make an upload.
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Poster: | RupertMartin | Date: | Sep 23, 2009 2:16pm |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Re: Spam from metadata file? |
Thank you for expressing your concern about this issue! Rupert from Internet Archive staff here. And yes, we're alive & well -- and probably like yourselves, busy with keeping the machinery of the daily work humming. (You do so much with such a *small* staff! is a comment frequently heard from folks who bump into our brick-&-mortar side of things.)
User privacy is indeed a concern for the Internet Archive. You see that in the principles of the Oakland Archive Policy (see link at http://www.archive.org/about/faqs.php#Report_Item ). You also see it in the response to being served a National Security Letter (NSL) -- below is a short extract from a 2008 story in the New York Times. (A big Thank You to the user who featured it in the forum post here: http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=192382 )
For users who chose to upload to archive.org, the email address a user enters when creating the Library Card ( http://www.archive.org/account/login.createaccount.php ) is stored along with all the rest of the metadata regarding the item. As has been noted in other forum posts, all the metadata associated with an item is viewable by following the link to the metadata file, regardless of whether the particular metadata value is expressed directly on the details page. This has remained unchanged.
Please note that searching archive.org for items uploaded by a particular user requires searching for uploader:screenname. Attempts to search by uploader's email address are routed to the Wayback Machine, as they're recognized as the web-information-type query that they are. For more on the Wayback Machine: http://www.archive.org/about/faqs.php#The_Wayback_Machine
Thank you for bringing this up in the forums! This is helpful. We're listening.
You may be interested also in these resources for Internet Archive developments-as-they-happen:
http://ianews.wordpress.com/
http://twitter.com/internetarchive
Collections specific:
http://internetarchive.wordpress.com/
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Original posting:
http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=192382
Internet Archive Challenges F.B.I.’s Secret Records Demand
By GRANT GROSS, IDG News Service\Washington Bureau, IDG
Published: May 7, 2008
http://www.nytimes.com/idg/IDG_852573C40069388000257442004ECECE.html?ref=technology
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Although the settlement keeps parts of the FBI request secret, Kahle applauded the lawsuit and settlement, saying it will show other businesses how to challenge NSLs. The FBI issued nearly 200,000 NSLs between 2003 and 2006, according to a U.S. Department of Justice inspector general's report.
"We see this as an unqualified success," Kahle said during a news conference. "The goal here was to help other recipients of NSLs ... understand that you can push back on these."
The gag order prevented Kahle from discussing the case with the library's board of directors, staff, and even his wife, he said. "Gags don't seem to be necessary," he said. "Gagging librarians is horrendous."
Kahle's lawyers declined to talk about the nature of the FBI investigation or reveal the identity of the targeted user.
The NSL sent to the Internet Archive asked for a user's name, address, length of service, e-mail header information and activity logs. The FBI investigation was "relevant to an authorized investigation to protect against international terrorism or clandestine intelligence activities," according to the FBI letter.
The Internet Archive provided the FBI some information that was publicly available on the site, but could not comply with the FBI request because the site does not track user activity or record IP (Internet Protocol) addresses, said Kurt Opsahl, a senior staff attorney with the EFF. The site asks only for an unverified e-mail address when users register.
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Poster: | elmagno | Date: | Sep 23, 2009 5:43pm |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Re: Spam from metadata file? |
This post was modified by elmagno on 2009-09-24 00:43:46
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Poster: | guyzilla | Date: | Sep 23, 2009 11:33pm |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Re: Spam from metadata file? |
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Poster: | zigoto | Date: | Sep 25, 2009 12:09pm |
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Poster: | skies | Date: | Sep 25, 2009 1:17pm |
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Poster: | zigoto | Date: | Sep 25, 2009 5:38pm |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Re: Spam from metadata file? |
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Poster: | skies | Date: | Sep 26, 2009 12:58am |
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Poster: | guyzilla | Date: | Sep 26, 2009 2:41pm |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Re: Spam from metadata file? |
http://www.archive.org/details/Microfisica_Remix
I'm not putting this film down or saying it's good or bad, but it belongs in another section. I saw that there are a few foreign films sections and this is more likely to belong in one of them than here. Also, have you tried looking for feature films using a keyword search, or typing "feature films" in the search bar? You get a listing for all kinds of stuff, most of which doesn't qualify as a feature film. The mess we would have would be worse than the mess we've got now. No, we need to have a moderator, because a library this big needs structure and organization. We had it once here and I'm hoping we'll have it again soon.
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Poster: | zigoto | Date: | Sep 28, 2009 4:10pm |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Re: Spam from metadata file? |
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Poster: | guyzilla | Date: | Sep 28, 2009 6:04pm |
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Poster: | finnobrit | Date: | Sep 23, 2009 2:39pm |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Re: Spam from metadata file? |
This post was modified by finnobrit on 2009-09-23 21:39:45
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Poster: | guyzilla | Date: | Sep 23, 2009 5:28pm |
Forum: | feature_films | Subject: | Re: Spam from metadata file? |