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Poster: deadmax Date: November 07, 2009 09:51:42pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Best of Europe '72
Coming off of a full tour of 1976 I'm getting deep into '72 but I just can't listen to EVERY show, I just can't. What are the BEST shows of the Europe tour? 4/8 has always been a favorite just for the "IT" factor but I like 4/14 and 5/26 also of course.

What are some of the highlights?

 
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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: November 08, 2009 01:40:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best of Europe '72
Max, I think you need to check out every note played during this tour, after all you listened to every show from (yawn) '76, and even the the weakest show (there were no weak shows) from Europe in 1972 completely blows away the best from way overrated 1976.

 
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Poster: light into ashes Date: November 08, 2009 01:15:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best of Europe '72
I'd pick 7/17/76 over 4/21/72 in a pinch.

I think there's a lot going on in '76, particularly July-October. It was the last year Keith was involved in the music & the last year for freewheeling jazzy improv segues between the songs.

 
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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: November 08, 2009 06:03:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best of Europe '72
I do like '76, particularly the long jazzy Slipknot!s and the extended intro jams on Eyes of the World. But I still feel the jamming on these shows doesnt really meet the expectations raised by the spectacular set lists. And though I personally prefer 7/16, I'll never agree that any of these shows can hold a candle to best from Europe in '72...

 
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Poster: deadmax Date: November 08, 2009 05:36:32pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best of Europe '72
7/17/76 was one of my stand-outs from the summer along with 6/28 (and others of course but those two are BIG). I love 7/18 as well, it is polished and nice and great but 7/17 seems to have some extra "It" going around.

 
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Poster: deadmax Date: November 08, 2009 08:45:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best of Europe '72
If by "overrated" you mean I listen to and "rated" each show for the year, then, yes, you'd be correct. But, if in fact, you mean that it doesn't deserve any attention because of the artistic creativity they explored on every night braving the cold winds of criticism and forging their own way into the dark, shining a light of optimism and sheer joy, then you, kind sir, would be wrong.

I tried not to bite on this one but I am not so strong when it comes to the red-headed step-child we call 1976.

 
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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: November 08, 2009 08:56:10am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best of Europe '72
No my friend, your efforts spent reviewing the entire year are quite commendable! By overrated I refer to the fact that the 1976 set lists look quite spectacular on paper, but in fact there really was not that much going on...

 
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Poster: Styrofoam Cueball Date: November 08, 2009 10:32:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best of Europe '72
1976 might be my favorite year for the Dead... or '67. Same numbers, either way.

 
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Poster: Styrofoam Cueball Date: November 07, 2009 10:13:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best of Europe '72
My favorite from that tour would be the Kongressaal show:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1972-05-18.sbd.miller.79057.sbeok.flac16

Featuring my favorite '72 Morning Dew... :D

 
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Poster: deadnazi Date: November 07, 2009 10:11:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best of Europe '72
I've been thinking of about this for quite a long time myself.
Surely the end of Pigpen's band was tragic for many at the time.... My opinion on tour highlights would be The Strand Lyceum run from 5/23-5/26 and the phrase "did ice cream ?", which became a household word soon after this amazing european tour.

 
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Poster: SkyDawg Date: November 07, 2009 11:14:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best of Europe '72
Most were pretty great. Here are a couple of my favorites:

Paris: http://www.archive.org/details/gd1972-05-04.sbd.miller.77294.sbeok.flac16

Denmark: http://www.archive.org/details/gd1972-04-14.sbd.miller-repitched.76006.flac16

Amsterdam: http://www.archive.org/details/gd72-05-10.sbd.kaplan.1582.sbeok.shnf

and Luxembourg: http://www.archive.org/details/gd1972-05-16.sbd.unknown.7089.sbefail.shnf

Here is a really great article from 1972 about the Grateful Dead shows in Paris:

http://www.rollingstone.com/artists/thegratefuldead/articles/story/5935738/the_beautiful_dead_hit_europe

This post was modified by SkyDawg on 2009-11-08 07:14:43

 
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Poster: light into ashes Date: November 07, 2009 11:01:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best of Europe '72
Some of the others' favorites are ones I don't revisit much - but some that do get repeated plays:

The German run at the end of April - 4/24 (released), 4/26 (partly released), 4/29 (aud or matrix), three killer shows in a row.
Set II at Bickershaw, 5/7, is quite special. As if the fifty-minute Dark Star>Other One wasn't enough, this was Pigpen's last circulating Lovelight, until the one from 5/24 turned up on the Rockin' the Rhein release.... We only have three 1972 Lovelights, but they are excellent.
And for Caution fans, 5/11 is a must - Pigpen's last Caution! (Also a good show for those who simply can't get enough Dark Star.)
And in the Strand run, the sbd portion of 5/24 is really nice, but 5/25 is amazing, especially now that Charlie Miller has given us the (almost) whole show.

Coming from '76, the nearly-identical setlists every night in '72 will be very apparent; but Pigpen's songs (and the unique Pigpen/Keith pairing) mix things up more than in later '72.

 
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Poster: falconcry77 Date: November 08, 2009 10:25:15am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best of Europe '72
is the 5-07 show the only time they played dark star and the other one in one show in 72? i cant think of any others off hand. they usually picked one or the other to be their vehicle for the evening...

as for releases, the dark stars from 4-8 (steppin out) and 4-24 (rockin the rhein) are among the best ever performed hands down. those two releases are great.

as for non releases, i like 5-3 and 5-4 as well as 5-10 and 5-11. the dark star from 5-11 is epic, not just for its length but also for its content. there are some unique phil bird song teases throughout.

 
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Poster: waynecs Date: November 08, 2009 04:47:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best of Europe '72
4/24 (Rockin The Rhein)is my personal favorite but Cliff is right you need to hear 'em all.

 
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Poster: jerrys beard Date: November 08, 2009 07:35:12am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best of Europe '72
Echo Rockin the Rhine...and that if you're going to devote some time to listening to a stretch of music you sure couldn't go wrong with this run.

 
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Poster: dead-head_Monte Date: November 08, 2009 09:00:54am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best of Europe '72
European Tour shows on The Archive

Next Time You See Me - YouTube clip
dead-head_Monte-icecream-kid.jpg

The tour dates were:
  • April 7, 1972, Wembley Empire Pool, Wembley
  • April 8, 1972, Wembley Empire Pool, Wembley
  • April 11, 1972, Newcastle City Hall, Newcastle
  • April 14, 1972, Tivolis Koncertsal, Copenhagen
  • April 16, 1972, Aarhus University, Aarhus
  • April 17, 1972, Tivolis Koncertsal, Copenhagen
  • April 21, 1972, Beat Club, Bremen
  • April 24, 1972, Rheinhalle, Dusseldorf
  • April 26, 1972, Jahrhundert Halle, Frankfurt
  • April 29, 1972, Musikhalle, Hamburg
  • May 3, 1972, Olympia Theatre, Paris
  • May 4, 1972, Olympia Theatre, Paris
  • May 7, 1972, Bickershaw Festival, Wigan
  • May 10, 1972, Concertgebouw, Amsterdam
  • May 11, 1972, Rotterdam Civic Hall, Rotterdam
  • May 13, 1972, Lille Fairgrounds, Lille
  • May 16, 1972, Theatre Hall, Luxembourg
  • May 18, 1972, Kongressaal - Deutsches Museum, Munich
  • May 23, 1972, Strand Lyceum, London
  • May 24, 1972, Strand Lyceum, London
  • May 25, 1972, Strand Lyceum, London
  • May 26, 1972, Strand Lyceum, London

dead-head_Monte-The_Bus_03.jpg

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cherry picking

 
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Poster: Saint Owen Date: November 08, 2009 10:11:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best of Europe '72
funny, about the bus. reminds me of the next summer as a adolescent hitching down the coast. Being renamed and asked to moving to strawberry fields, which was closer to the Sun Dance.

"LET ME TAKE YOU DOWN"

http://movingtoeugene.net/wp-content/themes/peaceful-rush-10/images/MtPisgah/MtPisgahParachute.jpg

This post was modified by SeaGlock on 2009-11-08 18:11:25

 
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Poster: Reade Date: November 08, 2009 08:43:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best of Europe '72
If you want to get deep in '72 don't forget July-December.
The spring tour seems to get the lion's share of attention, but the playing from 7/16 to 12/31 is remarkable. It's uniquely complex, nuanced; there's one drummer, Keith has settled in, Jerry's voice is youthful and energetic, on and on.
The music never sounded like it did before this period, or after.

 
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Poster: Styrofoam Cueball Date: November 08, 2009 10:35:18am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best of Europe '72
Yeah, the 8/21 show from Berkeley Community Theater is a particular favorite of mine from Fall '72...

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