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Poster: Spuzz Date: April 04, 2006 12:08:19pm
Forum: tobaccoarchives Subject: Should I feel guilty?
I just watched my first batch of commercials here, for Winston, and they were great! What a snapshot of history! But I immediately felt some twang of guilt enjoying these too much. So, I understand this part of the archive's intention to give the public a look back at some of the ways the tobacco companies marketed, though I wonder if that point might be lost because of the rich calvacade of entertaining commercials (among other things) you have here.
Comments?

 
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Poster: ScotisRule Date: April 09, 2006 04:59:49am
Forum: tobaccoarchives Subject: Re: Should I feel guilty?
I have seen your posts and reviews around the ol' archive for quite a while. I guess I would have to ask what is it about the cigarette advertisements that make you feel a touch guilty while others leave you unaffected?

I get a tremendous kick out of the advertisements because of the rather strange claims made about cigarettes. I would only feel guilty if I actually made the commercials.

 
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Poster: brewster Date: June 25, 2006 10:56:55pm
Forum: tobaccoarchives Subject: Re: Should I feel guilty?
I concur that seeing these movies brings you back and brings you in. Sometimes into a discredited mindset. It is the magic and danger of uncontextualized archives-- it puts a burden on us.

Thinking of this, these are a couple that strike me as more problematic:

http://www.archive.org/details/MyJapan1945

http://www.archive.org/details/Challeng1944


 
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Poster: Tenor madman Date: June 15, 2008 09:41:50pm
Forum: tobaccoarchives Subject: Re: Should I feel guilty?
I don't. Granted, tobacco products are horrible and toxic and nothing should short-change or circumvent that message. However, Tobacco compaines spent millions and millions employing advertisers, musicians, songwriters, singers, actors and the like to advertise their product over decades. They spent millions studying and learning how to make their messages resonate with consumers through the artistry of advertising. Even today, when someone hears the Winston jingle or sees the Marlboro man, there is a certain nostalgic value to those who were there at the time. Tobacco companies subsidised a huge percentage of early television, and could be said to provide the necessary capital to bring it through it's formative years.

So, we just need to keep things in perspective, and discern what's good and profitable from what's evil.


TM


 
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Poster: Robin_1990 Date: June 16, 2008 12:28:09am
Forum: tobaccoarchives Subject: The Truth About the Goverment
Agreed. Without Tobacco commercials we would never of had "I Love Lucy"! Which, of course, is really average by 50's TV standards, but fabulous compared to whats currently on MTV/VH1/Nick and others.


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