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Poster: | orchiddoctor | Date: | Oct 31, 2006 5:31am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | rhino release |
Comments? I think they could have offered up something a little more interesting for the first release. But, at least they are starting.
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Poster: | roadrunner | Date: | Nov 1, 2006 6:30pm |
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Poster: | cousinkix1953 | Date: | Nov 1, 2006 10:23pm |
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This post was modified by cousinkix1953 on 2006-11-02 06:23:25
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Poster: | AshesRising | Date: | Nov 1, 2006 11:43pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: rhino release |
Actually, Jerry didn't "kick the shit out of Barlow." Upon hearing Barlow's plea, Jerry said nothin', got up from the couch, walked down a corridor to his room, hung a sign on his door that read "Do Not Disturb" and shut the door behind him. I am out of town at the moment otherwise I'd get the source of that quote for you.
My Love for Jerry continues to grow...to think about what he carried around inside that Heart of his combined with a superior intellect and serving the Muse.....full of Grace. --- AshesRising
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Poster: | tree-ap | Date: | Nov 2, 2006 8:17am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: rhino release |
Can I get an AMEN on NO MORE FUCKING COMPILATIONS!!! I DO NOT WANT highlights of shows, or specific tours, or specific years. Take ONE show, or a run at a specific venue & RELEASE ALL THAT IS AVAILABLE for that show or run. I realize that not every show has surviving tapes, that maybe only one set is available, or that there are songs missing from the reels---whatever. If 12/31/76 is released & a song that was performed IS NOT on the CD's, then it needs to be listed in the notes as to WHY it is not included. Also, if there are songs included as filler or "bonus" songs, then these songs need to be THE ONLY surviving material from whatever show they are from, and this ALSO needs to be included in the notes. The notes shown for "The Houseboat Tapes" DP is a perfect example. Anyway, I guess it's great that they are finally getting around to the releases. It has been more than a year since the last DP, and at least 8 months since the last download.
Personally, I want box sets from Winterland runs from '71 - '74--2/22-23-24/74 , or Dec '72 for example. Remember this, it's ALL in how the music makes YOU "feel"...
WWWEEE LLLOOOVVVEEE YYYOOOUUU!!!
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Poster: | Earl B. Powell | Date: | Nov 2, 2006 8:04am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: rhino release |
There's no denying that life around the band was like living in a drug soup, which made it all the more difficult for any kind of meaningful intervention, without having the hypocritical finger pointed. There's also no denying that the quality of the music, at minimum, was altered when the drug of choice changed. It's been well documented in writing, but the best examples of how it changed the music is right here for the listening. Or, if you like, you can go to youtube and see the visual representation of the Grateful Dead by comparing 1977 to 1994 and the pitiful sight of Garcia standing dead still and fumbling to achieve what once came so naturally. (Hornsby's view on this is both neutral, from a relative outsider's standpoint and quite sad, as told in the Goodrich book.)
Obviously, it can't all be blamed on heroin use alone, but the fact of the matter is that Garcia cared very little for the vehicle we call a body. Thirty years of wear and tear from the road and a lifestyle free from healthy maintenance were certainly more than enough to effect the performance of any person, musician or not.
For me, and in genaral terms, the arrival of heroin on the scene marks the decline in the quality of the music that the band was capable of producing. Evrything that lead up to the Spring of 1977 began a long process of erosion starting that fall. At first, not significantly noticable, but by 81 and 82 the consistancy had taken a hit. All you need to do is listen.
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Poster: | dr. flashback | Date: | Oct 31, 2006 5:46am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: rhino release |
But seriously, I agree - at least they are trying, and it is a classic show, if not, as we all know, maybe the TOP show of 1976 (do I hear July 18th somebody, can I get a witness?)
Haven't pulled out my copy for awhile, but as I recall the Playin is stupendous (I love that word, meaning: to induce stupor, ha ha). And the Help>Slipknot in Set Two is very strong. I hope they give us the missing (SBD) encores!!!
Interesting that this New Year's is more exciting in many spots - than the released 12/31/78 at Winterland, which I like, but find a bit boring overall.
Still, I'm like you - this is a bit disappointing, maybe a B- effort. Would have liked to see a Box Set, or at least more from the older days. They have barely touched 1968, or 1970 for that matter.
However, a cool booklet for 12/31/76 would be nice. At least the Wheel is turning again!! No complaints.
The Dr.
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Poster: | orchiddoctor | Date: | Oct 31, 2006 6:09am |
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Frankly, when I first heard it would be a NYE show, I had hoped for 12-31-71!
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Poster: | dr. flashback | Date: | Oct 31, 2006 6:14am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: rhino release |
Damn, now you got me thinking 1971 ~ ~ !! Wouldn't a box set of the Felt Forum's been sweet?
The Dr.
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Poster: | orchiddoctor | Date: | Oct 31, 2006 8:25am |
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Poster: | patkelley | Date: | Oct 31, 2006 6:10am |
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Poster: | orchiddoctor | Date: | Oct 31, 2006 6:15am |
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Poster: | patkelley | Date: | Oct 31, 2006 7:01am |
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Poster: | johnnyonthespot | Date: | Oct 31, 2006 9:39am |
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No offense, I like something from ALL era's and we all have our preferences and there's nothing wrong with that. I just don't see how you can deny their greatest musical peaks, ALL of which, with the exception of 87-91, occurred BEFORE the time frame you listed.
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Poster: | patkelley | Date: | Oct 31, 2006 9:59am |
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Poster: | johnnyonthespot | Date: | Oct 31, 2006 11:22am |
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Poster: | grendelschoice | Date: | Oct 31, 2006 10:12am |
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I agree that w/the advent of new tech. and such, they tried to experiment w/diff. sounds (midis, reverb, space-related bells &whistles, etc.) and maybe they even tried to expand on some songs that had more limited jams in the 70's (compare any '77 Cassidy to an '81 or '84 or '91 and that bears out--the song was shorter and less daring in its jamming in the '70's)...
BUT I think the point is that as much as they tried to branch out in the post-Keith years there was (IMO) an almost undeniable drop-off in their execution, and abilities.
Jerry sure never sounded as good vocally in the '80's as he did in the 70's...the jamming was actually more focused (listen to a '73 Here Comes Sunshine or the Eyes'StrongerThanDirt jams or Let it Grow and it's jazzier, more like what a well-trained musician would play)...
They lost the ease and flow and sheer grooviness of a year like '77 for a more isolated approach in the 80's--each player more into his "own thing" during a song, which is why a lot of the problems they had in the 80's were a kind of choppiness to the playing...they did not sound as in synch w/each other and as a result you'd get a lot of uneven shows...some sparks of brilliance but a lot of plodding fodder in between marked by off-notes, croaky vocals, forgotten lyrics, and a sound that often resulted in what John Stewart once said was "6 guys playing a completely different song all at the same time."
Look, it IS all subjective ultimately, and I know you can point to numerous 80's shows that are legendary and deservedly so--10-12-84 right off the top of my head) but I would urge you to go back and listen to as many '77 shows, 72 and '73 and even some '74 shows and really judge the quality of the execution of their playing as opposed to a show from '85 or '87, or '88, ('89 was a comeback of sorts) and see if your opinion doesn't change slightly.
If not, hey, that's what makes horse races.
GC
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Poster: | Earl B. Powell | Date: | Oct 31, 2006 9:55am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: rhino release |
The peak of the writing IMO was with Wake of the Flood, still some ching-ching for Mars, Terrapin and Allah, but it's hard to argue against Weather Report, Eyes, Sunshine and Stella as the core in any setlist.
Europe 72 and Spring 77 runs would never be duplicated for hotter than hot play, and even poor Donna found her voice on that spring run. Once the band played themselves out of ballrooms, halls and theatres, it all changed. Even the drug of choice.
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Poster: | patkelley | Date: | Oct 31, 2006 11:01am |
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Poster: | Earl B. Powell | Date: | Oct 31, 2006 12:04pm |
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Poster: | patkelley | Date: | Oct 31, 2006 1:06pm |
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Poster: | Earl B. Powell | Date: | Oct 31, 2006 2:44pm |
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This post was modified by Earl B. Powell on 2006-10-31 22:44:58
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Poster: | mcglone | Date: | Oct 31, 2006 2:31pm |
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This post was modified by mcglone on 2006-10-31 22:31:37
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Poster: | johnnyonthespot | Date: | Oct 31, 2006 2:31pm |
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Poster: | Earl B. Powell | Date: | Oct 31, 2006 2:45pm |
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Poster: | johnnyonthespot | Date: | Oct 31, 2006 3:23pm |
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Poster: | ducats | Date: | Oct 31, 2006 3:29pm |
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Any help on the 60's show that Pig Pen (I think Avalon + Midnight Hour) says to Jerry, "that's it - play your guitar".
Jerry dug him and I think alot of the year stuff I just read through has to do with the boys after pen.
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Poster: | ducats | Date: | Oct 31, 2006 3:26pm |
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Any help on the 60's show that Pig Pen (I think Avalon + Midnight Hour) says to Jerry, "that's it - play your guitar".
Jerry dug him and I think alot of the year stuff I just read through has to do with the boys after pen.
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Poster: | tigerbolt | Date: | Oct 31, 2006 11:08am |
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Poster: | johnnyonthespot | Date: | Oct 31, 2006 11:13am |
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Poster: | orchiddoctor | Date: | Oct 31, 2006 11:19am |
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Still, I doubt they would have lasted thirty years if they had nothing left to say . . . .
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Poster: | johnnyonthespot | Date: | Oct 31, 2006 12:01pm |
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Poster: | grendelschoice | Date: | Oct 31, 2006 12:40pm |
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BUT I listen to and covet the '72-'77 shows the most, 1977 being my all time favorite.
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Poster: | patkelley | Date: | Oct 31, 2006 11:16am |
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Poster: | mcglone | Date: | Oct 31, 2006 11:12am |
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http://www.archive.org/details/gd74-05-19.sbd.clugston.6957.sbeok.shnf
http://www.archive.org/details.php?identifier=gd85-08-24.sbd.vernon.13991.sbeok.shnf
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Poster: | Dhamma1 | Date: | Oct 31, 2006 3:00pm |
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Hmm... that reminds me of a remark attributed to Krishnamurti, when someone asked why he picked a sharp rock out of a trail they were walking: if you can seriously ask the question, then you probably wouldn't understand the answer. ;-)
Coke made me feel good temporarily. Acid deconstructed my universe and left me forever altered, for the better.
Now I grovel in apology and contrition for seeming condescending.
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Poster: | orchiddoctor | Date: | Oct 31, 2006 4:33pm |
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Now, here's one of the links re: the release.
http://spincds.com/archives.asp?id=6443
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Poster: | Fishead | Date: | Nov 1, 2006 7:40am |
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i'll take a nice 1988 show...how about 3-30-88!!!!
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Poster: | Yankee9 | Date: | Oct 31, 2006 8:52am |
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just wondering where you found out this info? Is there a link?
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Poster: | orchiddoctor | Date: | Oct 31, 2006 9:24am |
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good discussion group, btw.
I would imagine the official link is at Rhino.com. I'll check.
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Poster: | Yankee9 | Date: | Oct 31, 2006 10:23am |
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Poster: | tigerbolt | Date: | Oct 31, 2006 10:54am |
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Poster: | elkdog | Date: | Oct 31, 2006 7:53am |
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1966- Rare Cuts and Oddities
1968- Two From the Vault
1969- Fillmore East, Fillmore West Set
1971- Ladies and Gentlemen
1972- Steppin' Out, Hundred Year Hall, Rockin' the Rhein
1974- GD Movie Soundtrack
1975- One From The Vault
1976/7- (Whatever they're going to call it)
1978/9- Closing of Winterland
1980- Go To Nassau
1989- Nightfall of Diamonds
1990- Dozin' At The Knick
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Poster: | patkelley | Date: | Oct 31, 2006 8:31am |
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Poster: | johnnyonthespot | Date: | Oct 31, 2006 9:49am |
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Poster: | Fishead | Date: | Nov 1, 2006 7:36am |
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Poster: | johnnyonthespot | Date: | Nov 1, 2006 8:27am |
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Oh yeah, and Jerry's voice hadn't been shredded yet.
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Poster: | direwolf0701 | Date: | Nov 1, 2006 8:54am |
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also, i didn't think jer was into heroin in 76 - always thought from what i read that it came after 78. could be wrong - or maybe what i read was wrong.
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Poster: | Fishead | Date: | Nov 1, 2006 9:33am |
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Poster: | johnnyonthespot | Date: | Nov 1, 2006 9:41am |
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And there's a big difference between coke and Heroin. Not saying they're not both bad but take it into perspective. Jerry was obviously often a Coke Head as was just about half the freakin country in those years. Considering the stuff they did while using that drug I personally think it was no where near the hinderance to the music as the other.
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Poster: | Fishead | Date: | Nov 1, 2006 9:53am |
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Poster: | direwolf0701 | Date: | Nov 1, 2006 10:07am |
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Poster: | johnnyonthespot | Date: | Nov 1, 2006 10:08am |
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One question: have you ever listened to ANY of those shows I mentioned? Or are you basing this soley off of that 6-29-76 Chicago show that is in wide circulation?
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Poster: | high flow | Date: | Nov 1, 2006 10:15am |
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'76 is just THE most layed-back listenable year in the GD stable. A year of re-discovery. After '72-'74 the band was burnt-out and came back in '76 with a sound that made the band members excited.
If the members of this band were clean and sober for 30 years, there would be no exspansive catalogue which showcases the ever-evolving sound of GD. I try to find a way to enjoy it all. Good, Bad and Ugly. Without the spirit of experimentation(drugs and music)this band is 3 Dod Night. Ick!
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Poster: | johnnyonthespot | Date: | Nov 1, 2006 10:31am |
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76 isn't my favorite year but I like it a lot and I definately put it as #1 on the most under appreciated year.
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Poster: | Fishead | Date: | Nov 1, 2006 10:55am |
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like i said sure there are good shows and so forth but overall 1976 and i am talkin 1976 don't do anyhting for me but put me to sleep...what can i say...it does...sorry
and then there's that woman..its her fault!!!! :)
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Poster: | johnnyonthespot | Date: | Nov 1, 2006 11:53am |
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I never argued your preferences, just your blanket they sucked in those years statements that I think you are misguided on. I think that Sugar MAg>U.S. blues sounds more like 74. You never answered my question on those shows so I will assume you have heard them and still think they're too slow but my true instinct tells me you formed your opinion and haven't heard them.
No hard feelings - 86 Rules!
: P
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Poster: | Fishead | Date: | Nov 1, 2006 12:00pm |
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as far as those shows go from 76 cant recall if i have heard them cause i haven't listened too much to that year so it really dont matter anyway . i have heard other shows from 76 and just too mellow at most times .
also i dont listen to 1986 too much either.....
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Poster: | direwolf0701 | Date: | Nov 1, 2006 12:13pm |
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I'll certainly second your notion of 87-90, those are a few of my favorite years as well. but not to beg the discussion.... chinadoll>gdtrfb>dew was not always exactly "rockin" - so will assume that you truly enjoy the "sound" of jer's guitar better during those years as opposed to 76. 76 was certainly a jazzier tone.
your preference there would certainly be "fair enough"
peace
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Poster: | Fishead | Date: | Nov 1, 2006 12:29pm |
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also prefer jerry during those years over 76 for the reasons already stated....brent kinda woke jerry up a bit
hehehehehehehe
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Poster: | johnnyonthespot | Date: | Nov 1, 2006 12:42pm |
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Poster: | Fishead | Date: | Nov 1, 2006 12:58pm |
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Poster: | johnnyonthespot | Date: | Nov 1, 2006 1:18pm |
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Fucked up or not I don't like the heavy handed approach to a lot of his synthesizer sound but that's MY preference and it isn't meant to degrade him as a musician and certainly not a person.
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Poster: | Fishead | Date: | Nov 2, 2006 6:10am |
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This post was modified by Fishead on 2006-11-02 14:10:57
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Poster: | johnnyonthespot | Date: | Nov 1, 2006 12:44pm |
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Poster: | high flow | Date: | Nov 1, 2006 11:22am |
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Poster: | johnnyonthespot | Date: | Nov 1, 2006 10:15am |
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Uh, you DO realize what band we're talking about don't you? Regardless of people's stances on drugs, it aint going to make the realities of this band go away. They partied! And as much as we know that CAN lead to bad things, in them days people were able to do it without being lectured.
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Poster: | grendelschoice | Date: | Nov 1, 2006 11:46am |
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That's very un-PC to say these days but it was a reality of the band's sound and part of what made them sound the way they did and write and create and jam the way they did. For sometimes good and sometimes bad. (Most times phenomenal.)
It was Phil, I believe, who once said that part of the thing with Jerry and drugs is that he just didn't like to be told what was good for him and what wasn't... and fairly enjoyed giving the finger to the rest of the world when it came to things that he wanted to put into his own body.
Obviously, he paid a price for that in the end, but I guarantee you none of us would be here passionately debating and discussing the nuances of their music had the band decided to go all clean and squeaky and write songs just to make the pop charts.
Different drugs were a part of every different Dead era and very much a part of their identity. As the late great Bill Hicks would remind you, when it came to legendary songs that pass the test of time and a LOT of the people who created them: "Reeaaaaal high on drugs."
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Poster: | Fishead | Date: | Nov 1, 2006 12:16pm |
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that's what coke is -shit -
now vitamin A that's where it's at....jerry would'nt have time to mope a dope on that -shit!!!!
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Poster: | johnnyonthespot | Date: | Nov 1, 2006 12:41pm |
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Poster: | Fishead | Date: | Nov 1, 2006 1:00pm |
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Poster: | johnnyonthespot | Date: | Nov 1, 2006 1:17pm |
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Poster: | orchiddoctor | Date: | Nov 1, 2006 1:16pm |
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It's all good. If we all liked the same year(s), how dull it would be.
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Poster: | high flow | Date: | Nov 1, 2006 1:26pm |
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Poster: | orchiddoctor | Date: | Nov 1, 2006 2:33pm |
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I find it nice that this Dr. Flashback guy seems to love early dead the most, but points us to other times and places.
Always something to learn.
That '65 stuff, though--blow you away.
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Poster: | high flow | Date: | Nov 1, 2006 2:54pm |
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Comparing GD years is a bit like comparing types of pie. I like Apple better than Pecan, but it all goes in the pie-hole! Know what I mean...?
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Poster: | orchiddoctor | Date: | Nov 1, 2006 6:05pm |
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Poster: | johnnyonthespot | Date: | Nov 1, 2006 1:31pm |
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Poster: | Fishead | Date: | Nov 2, 2006 6:13am |
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just call me mellow yelloww...quite right ...
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Poster: | direwolf0701 | Date: | Nov 1, 2006 2:27pm |
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Poster: | johnnyonthespot | Date: | Nov 1, 2006 2:32pm |
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Anways, they were doing methadrine or some sort of SPEED when they recorded the first album. Wonder what Fishead thinks of that?
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Poster: | direwolf0701 | Date: | Nov 1, 2006 3:13pm |
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This post was modified by direwolf0701 on 2006-11-01 23:13:47
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Poster: | johnnyonthespot | Date: | Nov 1, 2006 4:02pm |
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This post was modified by johnnyonthespot on 2006-11-02 00:02:00
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Poster: | direwolf0701 | Date: | Nov 1, 2006 4:11pm |
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Poster: | johnnyonthespot | Date: | Nov 1, 2006 4:27pm |
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Of course there's no hard feelings. Sorry if it sounded that way. Oh hey, I didn't forget about the CD's, just been BUSY. Figured you are too. Soon!
How about all this anti-drug talk aurrounding Jerry? Of course anyone can argue how bad Heroin is but COME ON! This is the Grateful F'n DEAD not the Carpenters. What in the hell is the worlds coming to?
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Poster: | high flow | Date: | Nov 1, 2006 4:36pm |
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We've all seen the darkside of drugs. The isolation. But here at LMA, we're talking about drugs in the context of gatherings. The whole idea that your brother was there to talk you down, if necessary. Experimentation in a safe environment can be a very positive experience. Clearly a not-so PC point-of-view.
Drugs are bad for many of people for a many reasons, we ALL agree. SO, it stands to reason, drugs are good for many of people for coutless reasons.
Each day there are well-rounded, intelligent folks here at LMA forum. Together we have consumed more than our share. BUT, here we are...reading, writing, debating....breathing.
I am who I am. Drugs were a part of creating this personality. No complaints...
Pass that doobie!
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Poster: | Earl B. Powell | Date: | Nov 1, 2006 4:46pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: rhino release |
In retrospect, '79 looks like (and sounds like) the beginning of the end. It's all documented right here, all you got to do is listen. Sure there was a revival of sorts with Brent, but the Persian got him too. Fact is, he was probably the best all around keyboard player the band ever had, but got on the bus after it had already started rolling down the hill.
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Poster: | johnnyonthespot | Date: | Nov 2, 2006 9:14am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: rhino release |
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Poster: | direwolf0701 | Date: | Nov 1, 2006 5:15pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: rhino release |
sorry it came across that way.
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Poster: | Fishead | Date: | Nov 2, 2006 6:19am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: rhino release |
dude , you ok?? like we were talkin about 1976 and how jerry sounded /sounds to me . you can disagree all you want . it aint about anti-drug talk . its about the effects the coke had on him in 1976 (imo) that made him way too mellow along with the rest of the band cause jerry was the leader and the band went as jerry went ..he was the conductor.they all followed jerry's lead. was it gonna be a mellow show or an upbeat show . to me 1976 is way too mellow .
like i said before vitamin a-not coke /i dont like coke....not that it matters what if jerry hadnt done coke or heroin -ya think he still be around today ??? of course so obviuosly some drugs are bad bad bad bad bad..but i dont preach ..its up to the individual and jerry unfortunatly couldnt stop ....
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Poster: | johnnyonthespot | Date: | Nov 2, 2006 8:33am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: rhino release |
This whole argument is souding dumber and dumber to me so I can only imagine what others probably think about it.
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Poster: | Fishead | Date: | Nov 2, 2006 12:04pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: rhino release |
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Poster: | johnnyonthespot | Date: | Nov 2, 2006 1:54pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: rhino release |
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Poster: | direwolf0701 | Date: | Nov 2, 2006 2:21pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: rhino release |
run now mommy....errr, johnny
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Poster: | mcglone | Date: | Nov 2, 2006 2:27pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: rhino release |
your not paying your staff writters nearly enough! i actually laughed out loud!
all in good fun, i'm sure.
ian
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Poster: | direwolf0701 | Date: | Nov 2, 2006 2:51pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: rhino release |
although, being so cold and lonely in Alaska - Johnny just may take him up on it - you never know.....
(johnny - you have permission to slap me upside the head)
:)
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Poster: | high flow | Date: | Nov 2, 2006 2:54pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: rhino release |
I'd say, "I've got your back Johnny", but you KNOW where that will lead. Straight to the gutter...
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Poster: | direwolf0701 | Date: | Nov 2, 2006 3:32pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: rhino release |
Yes, johnny looks quite comfy with his honey - especially in the sunny Yucatan peninsula.
All in good fun - nothing like some friendly abusive humor :) although i really do think Fish had something else in mind - hehehe (guess i'm just jealous 'cause he didn't ask me - im lonely too ya know - my leg needs some rubbin')
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Poster: | high flow | Date: | Nov 2, 2006 3:48pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: rhino release |
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Poster: | direwolf0701 | Date: | Nov 2, 2006 4:10pm |
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Poster: | high flow | Date: | Nov 2, 2006 4:16pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: rhino release |
LOL. Had to shake the creepy feeling off my skin. Let's end this!
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Poster: | direwolf0701 | Date: | Nov 2, 2006 4:33pm |
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Poster: | high flow | Date: | Nov 2, 2006 4:37pm |
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Poster: | direwolf0701 | Date: | Nov 2, 2006 4:39pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: rhino release |
(ok, now that is just sick - i just smacked myself upside the head)
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Poster: | johnnyonthespot | Date: | Nov 2, 2006 3:48pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: rhino release |
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Poster: | direwolf0701 | Date: | Nov 2, 2006 4:07pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: rhino release |
(ok - ive drawn this out way too far)
eewwwwwww
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Poster: | johnnyonthespot | Date: | Nov 2, 2006 4:28pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: rhino release |
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Poster: | direwolf0701 | Date: | Nov 2, 2006 4:37pm |
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Poster: | johnnyonthespot | Date: | Nov 2, 2006 4:41pm |
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Poster: | direwolf0701 | Date: | Nov 2, 2006 5:02pm |
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Poster: | Fishead | Date: | Nov 3, 2006 5:36am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: rhino release |
easy breezy....my ship don't sail that course...
as ed vedder said to a friend of mine last summer
it's good to have dreams.... keep dreaming...
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Poster: | johnnyonthespot | Date: | Nov 2, 2006 5:05pm |
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Poster: | high flow | Date: | Nov 2, 2006 5:12pm |
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Poster: | johnnyonthespot | Date: | Nov 2, 2006 3:47pm |
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Poster: | high flow | Date: | Nov 2, 2006 12:12pm |
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Poster: | Fishead | Date: | Nov 2, 2006 1:04pm |
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Poster: | high flow | Date: | Nov 2, 2006 1:51pm |
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Poster: | direwolf0701 | Date: | Nov 2, 2006 12:29pm |
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Poster: | high flow | Date: | Nov 2, 2006 12:36pm |
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Poster: | johnnyonthespot | Date: | Nov 2, 2006 1:56pm |
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Poster: | Gadwah | Date: | Nov 6, 2006 11:25am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: rhino release |
Once upon a time, anyone attending a Grateful Dead show knew going in that anything could happen. We went to these shows with no expectations.
All this analytical BS means nothing.