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Poster: | jerryfreak | Date: | Jun 30, 2003 7:51am |
Forum: | etree | Subject: | can I post .ape files? |
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Poster: | Jonathan Aizen | Date: | Jun 30, 2003 10:47am |
Forum: | etree | Subject: | Re: can I post .ape files? |
I am in the process of learning to do automated conversions (Linux gurus out there: I could use some tips) so that we can host multiple formats for each show (including, yes, mp3 - please refrain from rekindling the mp3 war - we will never stop hosting lossless audio as the archival format - this will be akin to the movies archive, where there are multiple, varying levels of quailty, formats available for download)
Please do include an MD5 file for the concert so that integrity can be maintained.
Jon
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Poster: | JonReckers | Date: | Jul 2, 2003 11:09pm |
Forum: | etree | Subject: | Re: can I post .ape files? |
This post was modified by JonReckers on 2003-07-03 06:09:21
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Poster: | Diana Hamilton | Date: | Jul 2, 2003 11:38pm |
Forum: | etree | Subject: | Re: can I *post* mp3 files? no |
This post was modified by hamilton on 2003-07-03 06:38:56
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Poster: | JonReckers | Date: | Jul 2, 2003 11:57pm |
Forum: | etree | Subject: | Re: can I *post* mp3 files? no |
1: The artists did NOT sign up for mass mp3 distribution of thier shows. I would imagine quite a few will pull out of the system.
2: Many tapers do not support spreading thier music in this format. Many people, myself included, will stop uploading shows, if they are going to be converted and spread highspeed.
3: The problem is trading, not having a "library copy." Having mp3s distributed so easily here WILL pollute the trading pool. For those who do not trade live music, and just download, it won't matter, but for those of us oldbies who still trade music through mail, there will be more mp3 sourced discs.
The problem is not the format itself, but the distribution....
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Poster: | Brad Leblanc 2 | Date: | Jul 3, 2003 1:25am |
Forum: | etree | Subject: | Re: can I *post* mp3 files? no |
This post was modified by bleblanc57 on 2003-07-03 08:25:58
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Poster: | JonReckers | Date: | Jul 3, 2003 1:21am |
Forum: | etree | Subject: | Re: can I *post* mp3 files? no |
This post was modified by JonReckers on 2003-07-03 08:21:24
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Poster: | Brad Leblanc 2 | Date: | Jul 3, 2003 2:30am |
Forum: | etree | Subject: | Re: can I *post* mp3 files? no |
This post was modified by bleblanc57 on 2003-07-03 09:30:33
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Poster: | scott brown | Date: | Jul 5, 2003 10:23am |
Forum: | etree | Subject: | Re: can I *post* mp3 files? no |
>>I still think that the whole "MP3's are Evil" sentiment is overdoing it, and the community members who feel sooo strongly that they would refrain from contributing because of that religion need to step back and look at it on a higher level. As Diana points out, many of the past fears relating to MP3's are quickly disappearing. <
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Poster: | mgleason007 | Date: | Jul 15, 2003 6:36am |
Forum: | etree | Subject: | Re: can I *post* mp3 files? no |
Why can't you just trade for a perfectly good non-mp3 copy? People are just getting lazier and lazier and don't want to have to wait. The DMB community is a prime example of this... if a show isn't out the next day for download, people bitch.
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Poster: | akb | Date: | Jul 15, 2003 11:31pm |
Forum: | etree | Subject: | Re: can I *post* mp3 files? no |
Making the shows available in mp3 means I could browse the archive in realtime. Realtime versus a day. Millions versus thousands. The original full quality archives are still available. Seems like an easy choice to me.
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Poster: | Diana Hamilton | Date: | Jul 16, 2003 12:24am |
Forum: | etree | Subject: | Re: can I *post* mp3 files? no |
This post was modified by hamilton on 2003-07-16 07:24:26
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Poster: | Diana Hamilton | Date: | Jul 3, 2003 3:17am |
Forum: | etree | Subject: | Re: can I *post* mp3 files? no |
This post was modified by hamilton on 2003-07-03 10:17:17
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Poster: | JonReckers | Date: | Jul 3, 2003 3:45am |
Forum: | etree | Subject: | Re: can I *post* mp3 files? no |
This post was modified by JonReckers on 2003-07-03 10:45:23
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Poster: | Diana Hamilton | Date: | Jul 3, 2003 2:22am |
Forum: | etree | Subject: | Re: can I *post* mp3 files? no |
This post was modified by hamilton on 2003-07-03 09:22:25
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Poster: | thoman8r | Date: | Jul 7, 2003 6:17am |
Forum: | etree | Subject: | Re: can I *post* mp3 files? no |
Then I think there should be a mech to allow tapers/uploaders to specify whether they would agree to have their stuff distributed in a format different than (and inferior to) the one they took the time to upload in.
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Poster: | jerryfreak | Date: | Jun 30, 2003 10:58am |
Forum: | etree | Subject: | Re: can I post .ape files? |
excellent
>I am in the process of learning to do automated >conversions (Linux gurus out there: I could use >some tips) so that we can host multiple formats >for each show (including, yes, mp3 - please >refrain from rekindling the mp3 war - we will >never stop hosting lossless audio as the >archival format - this will be akin to the >movies archive, where there are multiple, >varying levels of quailty, formats available for >download)
>Please do include an MD5 file for the concert so >that integrity can be maintained.
yes, I always do them for both .wav and .shn
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Poster: | Diana Hamilton | Date: | Jun 30, 2003 11:33am |
Forum: | etree | Subject: | Re: can I post .ape files? |
Great! That should be welcome news to those Mac users I invoked in the earlier .ape thread. :)
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Poster: | NickSD | Date: | Jul 1, 2003 2:49pm |
Forum: | etree | Subject: | Re: can I post .ape files? |
Nick
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Poster: | Jonathan Aizen | Date: | Jul 1, 2003 3:20pm |
Forum: | etree | Subject: | Re: can I post .ape files? |
This post was modified by Jonathan Aizen on 2003-07-01 22:20:53
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Poster: | Chipaca | Date: | Jul 1, 2003 4:31pm |
Forum: | etree | Subject: | Re: can I post .ape files? |
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Poster: | Jonathan Aizen | Date: | Jul 2, 2003 12:12am |
Forum: | etree | Subject: | Re: can I post .ape files? |
base directory: /0/audio
sub directories:
/0/audio/xxxYYYY-MM-DD.shnf
/0/audio/xxxYYYY-MM-DD.shnf
/0/audio/xxxYYYY-MM-DD.flac16
/0/audio/xxxYYYY-MM-DD.shnf
And so on, it should go and create
/0/audio/xxxYYYY-MM-DD.mp3f
/0/audio/xxxYYYY-MM-DD.mp3f
And so on. Basically I just don't know which Linux tools to use to convert the SHNs/FLACs to MP3s. I can easily write the script, given the correct command-line (not X Windows) tool. I can even link the script to the database (using Perl DBI) to fill in ID3 tags, if that's a possibility using current Linux tools.
So, any suggestions on which tools would work like:
shn2mp3 file1.shn file1.mp3 -artist 'band' -title 'YYYY-MM-DD' -track '1' ...
Your help is much appreciated,
Jon
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Poster: | Chipaca | Date: | Jul 2, 2003 2:24am |
Forum: | etree | Subject: | Re: can I post .ape files? |
for i in *.shn; do
shorten -x "$i" - |
oggenc -q6 -a 'Jack Johnson' -d '2002-11-14' -N "1-${i:0:2}" -l "Live at Orpheum Theatre, Boston, MA" -t "${i:5:$((${#i}-9))}" -o "${i/%shn/ogg}" -
done
(sure, it's more complicated than you asked, but I had it in my history).
If you look at the manpages, you'll notice that most of the encoders out there (with the exception of l3enc) take a file called '-' to mean standard input or output (depending where you put it). lame does this, as do oggenc and shorten in the example above; flac behaves this way too. So all you need to do is
shorten -x $file | lame - ${file/%shn/mp3}
or
flac -d -o - $file | oggenc - -o ${file/%flac/ogg}
got it?
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Poster: | Jonathan Aizen | Date: | Jul 2, 2003 5:01am |
Forum: | etree | Subject: | Re: can I post .ape files? |
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Poster: | NickSD | Date: | Jul 6, 2003 10:48am |
Forum: | etree | Subject: | Proper MP3 encoding |
This post was modified by CousinCrispy on 2003-07-06 17:46:26
This post was modified by CousinCrispy on 2003-07-06 17:48:07
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Poster: | Jonathan Aizen | Date: | Jul 6, 2003 11:15am |
Forum: | etree | Subject: | Re: Proper MP3 encoding |
This post was modified by Jonathan Aizen on 2003-07-06 18:15:14
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Poster: | NickSD | Date: | Jul 12, 2003 4:44am |
Forum: | etree | Subject: | Re: Proper MP3 encoding |
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Poster: | Chipaca | Date: | Jul 2, 2003 10:37am |
Forum: | etree | Subject: | Re: can I post .ape files? |
lame is at http://lame.sf.net
lame is the best at high bitrates, which is what you want (AFAIK).
As for the options... dunno, it depends on what you're encoding. You probably want something like -V0 or maybe -V1.
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Poster: | Jonathan Aizen | Date: | Jul 2, 2003 3:22pm |
Forum: | etree | Subject: | mp3 conversions |
i'll post some links to files at some point soon so that people can test them out and see if they're up to snuff.
then i'll try to figure out how to do the conversions with minimal down-time.
jon
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Poster: | Jonathan Aizen | Date: | Jul 2, 2003 1:09pm |
Forum: | etree | Subject: | Re: can I post .ape files? |
Jon
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Poster: | Chipaca | Date: | Jul 2, 2003 9:38pm |
Forum: | etree | Subject: | Re: can I post .ape files? |
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Poster: | Tyler | Date: | Jul 2, 2003 10:27am |
Forum: | etree | Subject: | LAME |
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Poster: | InfiniteOhms | Date: | Jul 3, 2003 2:41am |
Forum: | etree | Subject: | Re: can I post .ape files? |
this would be pretty sweet to have and probibly not that hard to implement, also if there are id3 tags make sure the comment says that there is a free lossless copy on archive at *url*
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Poster: | weeba | Date: | Jul 5, 2003 12:16pm |
Forum: | etree | Subject: | shn > mp3 |
But if someone has the mp3s, then there is a chance (and probably a good one) that they won't go to *url* to download the SHN copy of the show, since they already have the show on their PC (and according to someone's post above, if they have the mp3s, they must have a slow connection speed, therefore making SHNs "impossible" to get). Then, as Scott points out, the mp3 show will continue to spread, regardless of the taper's wishes (you know, that whole NO MP3 line in the text file?). And then the trading pool will dilute, as mp3 files are now spreading, and people are downloading the mp3s from LMA, since it takes less time.
Regardless of Internet connection speeds, people always have the opportunity to B&P shows, eliminating the need for servers/LMA etc. However, since servers/LMA exist, people always want the quick fix; always want the shows ASAP. We can't lessen the quality of the show, just so it spreads 1 day faster.
And with the availabilty of high speed connections (nearly everywhere now), there is no point in seeding mp3 shows, since it can take less than 1 night to download a show.
(that is one rambling post.)
-Aaron
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Poster: | Prime_66 | Date: | Aug 22, 2004 9:13pm |
Forum: | etree | Subject: | Need an automatic mp3-conversion script, probably using Lame |
I´ve begun working with lame but I can´t get it quite right. The lame.exe works fine when I start the application manually in a command-promt window (WIN XP). But when I try to call the program from a PHP-script the mp3-conversion stops after just a few seconds:
$bitrate = 48;
exec("lame -a --mp3input --resample $bitrate hej.mp3 12.mp3");
If I write that code directly to lame in a command prompt window it works fine, the conversion completes. But as I said, when I try to do the same thing from PHP it stops before the conversion is finished.
I´ve checked the php.ini and it´s not the time for how long a a script can "act" which is too short. So what can it be?
I also need a way to close down lame.exe after the conversion is complete. Otherwise new lame.exe´s will be started each time I call the program from my PHP-script.
If anyone have any ideas I would be grateful!