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Poster: | Tyler | Date: | Jul 28, 2004 4:43am |
Forum: | etree | Subject: | Re: lossless question |
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Poster: | xtifr | Date: | Jul 28, 2004 6:30am |
Forum: | etree | Subject: | there's more than two (or three) platforms out there! |
The thing about shorten and flac is that they're both available as source (even if SHN isn't technically "open source"), so they're fully portable to just about anything. Most of the other lossless compression formats I've seen are binary-only, and are limited to a handful of platforms. They may *say* Linux is supported, but what they really mean is that Linux/x86 is supported, not Linux/PPC, Linux/Sparc, Linux/Alpha, Linux/MIPS or Linux/ARM (Playstation/Netwinder), etc.
In 20 years, our computers and operating systems will probably have warped beyond all recognition. However, shn and flac will still work because the source is available, and the programs can be recompiled for the new platforms. Is the same true of Monkey's thingie?
(This is an honest question; I really don't know. If the answer is: yes, the source to Monkey's doo-dad is freely available, then I have no real objection to its use on the archive. But otherwise....)
To quote Steve Winwood: "who knows what tomorrow may bring?" Open source (or near equivalents) help make the archive more-or-less future-proof.
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Poster: | simon c | Date: | Jul 28, 2004 7:17am |
Forum: | etree | Subject: | Re: there's more than two (or three) platforms out there! |
Nothing against .ape, but for starters, we don't have any mechanisms for making derivatives from that format, which makes streamable preview/MP3 versions pretty impossible, and I think they're important for the Live Music Archive (where allowed!)
There may be a few shows hanging out in .ape (just as there are a very few in .mkw), but hopefully they will be replaced as time goes on.
Regards,
s!
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Poster: | TomHorton | Date: | Jul 28, 2004 10:26pm |
Forum: | etree | Subject: | Re: there's more than two (or three) platforms out there! |
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Poster: | Tyler | Date: | Jul 28, 2004 4:49am |
Forum: | etree | Subject: | FAQ addition - Re: What formats archive.org accepts for seeds (simon c read this) |
so i think we should write up a FAQ entry about seed file formats that are accepted at archive.org. i'll start a little and simon please add / fix this paragraph and maybe plug it into the faq? thanks!
"The Live Music Archive accepts live concert seeds of loss-less files only. Acceptable file formats include shorten (.shn), FLAC (.flac), or Monkey's Audio (.ape). [note: is .ape okay?] Note that MKW files (.mkw) are NOT an acceptable file format for seeding. Also, lossy files are NOT allowed for seeds (.mp3 or .ogg files). If this is your case, please start with your original .wav files (pre-mp3) and encode them to a loss-less format and upload thos loss-less files to the LMA to be the seed. The Archive will make derivational formats on-site in a quality control method to ensure the uniform quality of the supplemental mp3's and ogg's."
What do you guys think?
Tyler
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Poster: | Tyler | Date: | Jul 28, 2004 5:11am |
Forum: | etree | Subject: | one more FAQ edit (meta-data wait time) |
Tyler
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Poster: | simon c | Date: | Jul 28, 2004 3:16pm |
Forum: | etree | Subject: | Re: one more FAQ edit (meta-data wait time) |
http://www.archive.org/about/faqs.php#205
WAV is a possible upload format for the LMA, right? Not that anyone generally uses it, but I believe it works fine with our deriver, so there's no reason why you shouldn't use it? If that's wrong, I'll change it.
Thanks,
s!