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Video-Cellar |
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I believe that the Archive can do nothing to remove the "blip.TV" videos (Phantasmagoria theatre), but I am wondering why "Not Of This Earth" has not been removed. The version on here is not the original cinema release, it has a different pre-amble, but a TV print with the copyright notice framed out of the image.
The copyright was owned by Allied Artists Pictures until their bankruptcy in 1979 when their entire post-1936 catalogue was transfered by sale to Lorimar. The claims in the reviews that Clarke Films "owned the rights" are misleading. Clark Films is a Florida based film exchange and distributor. They started their business in the mid 60s by securing the lucrative distribution rights to the Allied Artist catalogue, but never owned the copyright. Allied Artists had full rights to transfer this film's copyright to Lorimar and Lorimar had full rights to renew this copyright.
Below are attached the full frame off an original cinema release print and the matted frame from the TV print that appears here.
This post was modified by Video-Cellar on 2011-04-21 23:01:47
Attachment: NOTE_full_Frame.jpgAttachment: NOTE_IA_Frame.jpg
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tristero |
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>I believe that the Archive can do nothing to remove the "blip.TV" videos
Just curious...why the privileged status for bliptv? Do they have some sort of arrangement with IA that allows them to post copyrighted movies? Are their uploads here legally or not? My curiosity is based on the fact that their uploads are mostly things I would love to watch. I mean, c'mon...The Return of the Vampire: Lugosi as Dracula (with a different name), a female van Helsing, and a werewolf Renfield!
Some of the Phantasmagoria Theater stuff have been here for nearly two years, apparently under copyright, yet IA can do nothing to remove them? Why?
Thanks in advance...
This post was modified by tristero on 2011-04-22 18:47:31
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Video-Cellar |
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Apr 22, 2011 9:31pm |
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I think that the IA's Blip.TV section is just a mirror for the old Blip.TV site. I think the uploads in that section can only be maintained by Blip.TV (a few admins have said that they don't have privs to remove blip.tv stuff.)
The current Blip.TV site doesn't allow access to any of this stuff but does let it stay in the archive.
This post was modified by Video-Cellar on 2011-04-23 04:31:40
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tristero |
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Apr 22, 2011 9:49pm |
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Interesting, a truly orphaned corner of the archives. Thanks for satisfying my curiosity.
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guyzilla |
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Apr 23, 2011 12:01am |
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But how come some of this stuff is relatively new? I just looked and there's some stuff that's only been here a few hours, though it's not the same stuff as the files listed at the beginning of this thread. So more copyrighted stuff could come in through there any time.
This post was modified by guyzilla on 2011-04-23 07:01:54
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Apr 23, 2011 8:54pm |
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Also, I notice that a few of the uploads mentioned at the start of this thread have been removed, so some one (in or out of the archive, who knows?) does have a set of administrative keys...there is also what appears to be some very disturbing and illegal content in that section, but I'm not about to click on the links to find out for sure.
This post was modified by tristero on 2011-04-24 03:54:59
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the blip mafia or the 8 bit gestapo (blip, bleep, bloop)
AKA
pwnlip
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Apr 22, 2011 4:24pm |
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I don't know if this makes any difference, but I checked out most of these links and found the resolution to be so poor that the uploader(s) aren't really doing anyone any favors here. I would advise any potential downloaders interested in these films to open up your wallets and cut loose of a couple of bucks and buy legit dvds from whoever puts these films out to get better copies. Watching these crappy files is like like watching a movie through a shower door. I like getting free movies as much as the next guy, but this stuff is copyright as well as being just crap.
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Apr 22, 2011 10:05pm |
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It's fitting that this stuff which shouldn't be here anyway is of too poor quality to actually watch.
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Apr 25, 2011 10:17am |
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seeing as how Shout! Factory claims the DVD version was taken from negatives, I don't see how you can claim it is from theatrical prints at the time.
The extra space above on the TV print appears to be part of the original print used to make the pan and scan. Most likely the person who transferred the negative back in 1956 did not have the frame centered and left off the notice. The negative would definitely not qualify as an original release print.
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Apr 25, 2011 11:10pm |
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- The full frame still does not come from the Shout DVD.
- The TV print was matted with thin black bars at the top and bottom of the frame. The notice was obscured by these mattes. Removal of the notice on a print reformatted for television broadcast does not put an otherwise copyright film in the public domain. It doesn't even put that "limited distribution" print into the public domain.
- This film has never had a legitimate public domain video or DVD release - only bootlegs (and the one official DVD). Wide bootleg distribution, does not make a film public domain, even if the bootlegger states that they think it is public domain as part of the foundation for their future legal defence.
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Wow......I'm choking on the rage and indignation.
Are you having a petulant frenzy?
Why not just report Blip.tv to the FBI, then you can all collect your junior G-Man badges.
What's worse than an illegal upload?......
A bunch of whining nancies.
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Apr 21, 2011 3:47pm |
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I clicked on both attachments. I get a message saying:"Page not found."
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Video-Cellar |
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Apr 21, 2011 3:57pm |
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Full Frame
IA Frame
This post was modified by Video-Cellar on 2011-04-21 22:57:41
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