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Poster: dead-head_Monte Date: May 24, 2011 3:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Interview with David Lemieux re E72

Thanks for posting this here. • I'm pretty much the only Forum Regular who's pushing the GD's cultural side of their bus from my era, which was 1972 - 1973. I also pushed the Audio Technology side of their bus - for sound systems and taping. It's all in my taper's handbook. Five minutes from now, as David Lemieux says, "I think [in the future] it will be about their music. The [GD's] cultural phenomenon will be less important. I was a hardcore Deadhead and I loved the scene, but it was never about the scene." David is about 40 years old. I'm 60. My GD experiences really began in the late 1960s counter-culture era, and they continued into the early 70s. This scene was nothing short of phenomenal, amazing, and incredible! Yes, their music and their sound back then were even more incredible than that! • There's a lot about digital that sucks, when it's compared to analog signals, and how they're being used commercially today. In the end, "the powers that be" are data mining every bit of information about us. They're spying on us, merging databases, and running scenarios on how best to exploit the human race and mother earth for every last dollar - all for the sake of some extra profits for a few Wall Street giants. Lemieux says his hard drives only last 7 years. As far as my hard drives and backing them up goes, that's an endless process. We're creating tons of e-waste in a throw-away society. I cannot afford to be buying hard drives every year. So, I'm depending more and more on using The Archive, eTree, and The_Bus as my backups. That's why I created the Master Index for The_Bus seeds (pre-1980 years), put it in The Archive's Our Media Collection with my RFK Stadium 1973 shows, and I mirrored all of this in my Taper's Handbook. I created numerous indices. Then I backed up all of my web pages from My Items uploaded to The Archive. I also backed up my Forum postings that are part of my taper's handbook. Then I put these files onto 3 different hard drives, several DVDs, and one thumb drive. My work and my files are backed up this way. • David Lemieux says, "The band was hot off of some mainstream success with the country rock albums, ‘Workingman’s Dead’ and ‘American Beauty.’ These are albums with songs like ‘Dire Wolf’, ‘Sugar Magnolia’ and ‘Truckin.’ There was pedal steel guitar on a lot of the songs and you could really hear the country influence. You had this band that by 1972 was clearly showing its country influence, but they incorporated that kind of music into the psychedelic sound which really defined who they were for a lot of people. To me, 1972 was the perfect moment for the Grateful Dead because it embodied everything that they were so great at." Like I said many times before, "they're Cowboys! — take a good look!" Monte's Taper Handbook

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Poster: dead-head_Monte Date: May 25, 2011 11:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: David Lemieux - "they're Cowboys!"

Re: they're Cowboys! Is this a cultural issue, scene issue, and/or musical issue? Is it p-c anymore to digress into the Cowboy issue - beyond just "purely musical interests"? David Lemieux's comments were very interesting. He hits a home run when he describes how you could really hear GD's country influence in 1972. But Lemieux doesn't "run the bases." He never goes into any details. So there's no info at this point. It's purely about the music. I'm standing my ground on The Cowboy issue, regardless. Take a good look at the founding GD band leaders.

Pigpen Cowboy - unknown date, 1969
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Jerry Cowboy - June 5, 1970
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By 1972, 1973, and 1974 the cowboy music influences (country rock, bluegrass, western swing) were hitting "the scene" in droves! On stage, I witnessed GD wearing cowboy shirts and blue jeans many times. Today we have tons of images, film, and video tape documenting GD being cowboys. It wasn't just GD being cowboys at that time. It was everywhere. And bunches of us were starting to wear western wear clothing at this time. Just like our favorite bands and artists, we were wearing cowboy boots, jeans, and cowboy shirts. You couldn't buy western wear clothing in the NJ-NYC metro area at this time. It was very hard to find. There was an Army-Navy Surplus store in Hackensack that had some cowboy western wear, and that was it. I had to go there many times before I found a few good cowboy shirts that I liked. Deep into Pennsylvania was the next closest to me, if you hit some of the truck stops out there for example. We have "the Jerry cowboy proclamation" documented in this photo. Look at them dressing and acting like cowboys. It's April 20, 1970.

Jer is saying, "We've always been Cowboys, man."
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Poster: dead-head_Monte Date: May 25, 2011 2:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: David Lemieux - 'they're Cowboys!'

Cowboy movement shown here - "circle your wagons" - May 15, 1971
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