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dead-head_Monte |
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Aug 1, 2011 11:57am |
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Roosevelt Stadium • GD • July 31 • Aug 1 • 1973 • uncirculated |
Here's the Dark Star medley from the uncirculated AUD.fob masters of mine, Aug 1, 1973, Jer's b'day show at Roosevelt Stadium. It sounds weird to me, compared to the other sources. Ditto for the previous night and my July 31 AUD.fob masters. I was with my crowd of NJ deadhead friends both nights. The Band played both nights, but we went to the late shows for The Dead.
my July 31, 1973 source:
RE-15 mic on a 10-foot pole, FOB (not the best location?)
Maxell UD C90 cassettes (chromium dioxide tapes)
Nakamichi 550 portable tape deck with Dolby NR
lineage (Aug 1, 2011):
MR cassettes > Nakamichi LX-3 tape deck > Lexicon Alpha device @ 48KHz / 24-bit > USB > Samplitude > CD Tag > VBR_MP3
temp-file name:
gd73-07-31.aud.barry.2nd_set_partial.mp3, running time is 30:00
Me And Bobby McGee > Truckin > Goin' Down The Road Feelin' Bad
Johnny B. Goode // cuts off when Hell's Angels security dude confiscates my tape
Jimmy Watson followed the Hell's Angel security dude backstage. The GD returned my tape to Jimmy Watson five minutes later.
my Aug 1, 1973 source:
RE-15 mic on a 4-foot mic stand shaft, arm raised up high, FOB (not the best location?)
Maxell UD C90 cassettes (chromium dioxide tapes)
Nakamichi 550 portable tape deck with Dolby NR
lineage (Aug 1, 2011):
MR cassettes > Nakamichi LX-3 tape deck > Lexicon Alpha device @ 48KHz / 24-bit > USB > Samplitude > Audacity > CD Tag > VBR_MP3
temp-file name:
gd73-08-01.aud.barry.dark_star_medley.mp3, running time is 1:04:37
Dark Star > El Paso > Eyes Of The World > Morning Dew
here is my temp-file directory:
http://www.archive.org/details/bear-gans1991-01-13
This is the directory for the archival copy I made of the Bear-Gans 1991 interview excerpts. My Roosevelt Stadium tapes never sounded right to me. The other sources in circulation seem to sound better to me. That's why I believe I will be attacked on here if I circulate these recordings.
I never found pics for 1973 Roosevelt Stadium shows. But Rhino has this 1972 shot of GD's first time at Roosevelt Stadium on July 18 1972, from GD's archival photos.
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leftwinger57 |
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Aug 1, 2011 2:50pm |
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Re: Roosevelt Stadium • GD • July 31 • Aug 1 • 1973 • uncirculated |
yeh i was there also.But I unlike someother people I saw the entire show w/the Band and Allmans. I really don't remember the show all that well so no slamming here, and as a matter of fact was the last show I caught in the east before moving to S. F. late of winter 73'.
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Judge TOOTMO |
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Aug 2, 2011 9:50am |
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Re: Roosevelt Stadium • GD • July 31 • Aug 1 • 1973 • uncirculated |
Nice stubs, Jeff. I noticed on the stubs that John Scher did a lot of "presenting". I guess if I was an old NJ head the name would have meant something to me right off the bat—but I'm not and it didn't. Though, it did sound familiar and I believe it was from Searchin' for the Sound.
Anyway, through the power of them internetted webs, I did find this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5nc3OQZ_Y4 It's only about four minutes, which is too bad 'cause I thought he was interesting and I'll bet he has a lot more to say.
TOOTMO
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Jeff Kaplan |
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Aug 2, 2011 11:10am |
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Re: Roosevelt Stadium • GD • July 31 • Aug 1 • 1973 • uncirculated |
he was sort of the bill graham of the northeast at the time. promoted many of the big venues.
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Jim F |
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Aug 2, 2011 1:07am |
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Re: Roosevelt Stadium • GD • July 31 • Aug 1 • 1973 • uncirculated |
I'm just wrapping up Morning Dew from 8/1 right now, I hadn't listened to that jam sequence in at least a year, but it feels like longer. It was one of my earliest tapes I ever had, I'd forgotten how much I loved that jam.
Anyway I personally would love to hear your recordings, Monte. I don't care how they sound (I'm about to check out the VBR MP3's now). Just wanted to mark my presence in the "thank you, Monte, I'd love to hear your recordings" camp.
On a related topic, I'd like to hear more recordings of tapers getting busted. I mean busting tapers sucks, and I certainly don't wish it would have happened more as then we wouldn't have a lot of tapes. But for "historical reasons" I like hearing the exchanges between band/security/taper etc a la 8/6/71, 12/31/70, that other show from 1970 where Cutler asks for the tapes, etc. I'm sure there are a handful of tapes with security hassles and such on them, I just don't know where to look.
There is a great review in Deadbase X of 12/13/92 where Jeff Silberman tells his story of getting "apprehended by BGP thugs during the break for committing the unpardonable crime (?) of recording in FRONT of the soundboard!" He talks about "always leave the deck running as long as possible."
I dunno I'm just a sucker for the weird non-musical stuff that happens near microphones, maybe ever since I recorded a local band in 2001 and got this guy who goes by the name "The Wildcat" (after the show he can be heard saying "They call me the Wildcat!") on tape telling this bizarre story involving a dildo salesman. He can also be heard saying the immortal phrase still popular among myself and a friend or two, "long hair and a cotton belt don't mean somebody's jivin'." 10 years later, I still don't know what the hell it means. I actually bumped into The Wildcat some years later and asked him what it meant. His explanation was even more bizarre than the phrase itself.
But maybe my favorite non-musical thing caught on tape is "DAMMIT WISE! Don't fuck with my levels!" haha I always forget what the date is on that, I'm thinking Red Rocks 1982 or something?
This post was modified by Jim F on 2011-08-02 08:07:53
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ringolevio |
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Aug 2, 2011 4:24am |
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Re: Roosevelt Stadium • GD • July 31 • Aug 1 • 1973 • uncirculated |
>DAMMIT WISE! Don't fuck with my levels!" haha I always forget what the date is on that, I'm thinking Red Rocks 1982 or something?
I'm trying to think because I know I just heard that the other day. It was definitely an '82 show - ahh, it was the one that Monte posted the Cold Rain and Snow from. I'm not sure if I can recreate it better than that but maybe that'll give you something to go on ... it might have been in the "teasers" thread.
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derf315 |
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Aug 1, 2011 2:31pm |
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Re: Roosevelt Stadium • GD • July 31 • Aug 1 • 1973 • uncirculated |
"That's why I believe I will be attacked on here if I circulate these recordings."
That is a pretty sad statement about this place. I for one am very thankful that folks still are willing to circulate any recordings that they made. The fact that certain " good" or " bad " posters are labled by some kind of ridiculous hierachy here is laughable and is what keeps recordings in the closet, attic or basement.
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robthewordsmith |
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Aug 1, 2011 3:01pm |
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Re: Roosevelt Stadium • GD • July 31 • Aug 1 • 1973 • uncirculated |
Hey why don't you loosen your pretty ribbons and let that nasty bee out from under your bonnet?
"The fact that certain " good" or " bad " posters are labled by some kind of ridiculous hierachy here is laughable and is what keeps recordings in the closet, attic or basement"
You unutterable bozo.
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derf315 |
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Aug 1, 2011 3:19pm |
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Re: Roosevelt Stadium • GD • July 31 • Aug 1 • 1973 • uncirculated |
You are the one brought up the idea of a running list of goods guys/gals and bad ones! You are reaping the benifits now.
I was a bozo long before this place! Thanks for the compiliment.
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robthewordsmith |
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Aug 1, 2011 3:46pm |
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Re: Roosevelt Stadium • GD • July 31 • Aug 1 • 1973 • uncirculated |
Look Freddy, there is no 'ridiculous hierarchy' here. The very idea that there might be, or that anyone would give credence to such an idea, is what's ridiculous. And if you want to pick up on some badinage between me and user u. and use it to fuel your fantasies then, honestly, that's just ridiculous too.
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derf315 |
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Aug 1, 2011 3:54pm |
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Re: Roosevelt Stadium • GD • July 31 • Aug 1 • 1973 • uncirculated |
Awe, you're so cute when you call me Freddy. Your meltdowns give me great entertainment. Perhaps if you stopped TELLING people what to do( stop feed the trolls,fuel your own fantasies, lossen the bonet, remove certain people from the archive, add to the good poster list etc...), I wouldn't feel so inclined to speak up against your words. But, I really don't want to take this any Further( see what I did there?) You win!
To get back to some GD and the topic at hand.... I would like to hear more of the run in with the HA security team. I would imagine that would be a good story. You got the tape back, but how were you and you're rig treated?
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dead-head_Monte |
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Aug 1, 2011 7:32pm |
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Re: Roosevelt Stadium • GD • July 31 • Aug 1 • 1973 • uncirculated |
I was double-dosed at the show. We were all tripping. It was insane on July 31. It looked like (or it "felt like") The Dead were dosed during the break, which ran into Jer's b'day. Set 2 was a complete meltdown. It felt like it was THE most exciting and "electric" set of the summer for many GD fans in my area. (not saying it was the best played)
I saw the HA security detail coming from about 20 feet away. I didn't know what it was. The crowd in front of me was being "parted". WTF? Then this enormous HA dude comes right up to me. He must have been 6 feet 10 inches tall, probably weighed about 280 pounds. He stood 2 feet away from me, face to face. He had long hair past his shoulders, beard, black vest with Hell's Angels colors, and he was gigantic. I stood there at 5 feet 8 inches tall, weighing 130 pounds.
I was so freaked out, I actually couldn't freak out. This was way beyond that. Freak out from what? This is new territory for me and my taping follies. My fucking mic is on a 10-foot pole. And I'm standing there pathetically, with the 10-foot pole in my grasp, and my tape recorder slung over my shoulder. The Dead are playing Johnny B Goode.
Amazingly, the HA guy says to me, very calmly and very politely, "May I have your tape please?" He extends his arm outward, with his palm up, and waits for me to put my tape in his hand.
I babbled, whined, and protested with some drivel for maybe 10 seconds, and I asked him, "What?"
Again, the HA guy says to me, very calmly and very politely, "May I have your tape please?" Arm is extended, palm up.
I surrendered my tape to him without hesitation. It was over quickly. He was very nice to me... just doing his job it seems. He never touched me or my taping rig. He was professional and must have known I was freaked out.
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derf315 |
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Aug 3, 2011 7:43am |
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Re: Roosevelt Stadium • GD • July 31 • Aug 1 • 1973 • uncirculated |
Thanks for the follow-up. I had hoped it had went down that way and am glad to see a more heavy- handed approach wasn't used. Great stories Monte!
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elbow1126 |
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Aug 1, 2011 2:35pm |
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Re: Roosevelt Stadium • GD • July 31 • Aug 1 • 1973 • uncirculated |
Monte, I don't think you would be crucified for putting up a tape of a show that is not as good as ones that already exist. There are some people who seem to be collectors and for the sake of completeness want to have every version of a show that is out there. I think if you put a warning up saying that you think your transfer is not as good as others and that you are offering it for those that are such collectors it would be appreciated. I see transfers with such warnings all the time at LL.
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dead-head_Monte |
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Aug 2, 2011 11:14am |
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Re: Roosevelt Stadium • GD • July 31 • Aug 1 • 1973 • uncirculated |
Today I upgraded my Dark Star suite "excerpts" from my uncirculated tapes. The reel-flip cut in Eyes of The World is faded out / in at 46:05. Sugar Magnolia closing tune is added as a bonus. The upgraded DS suite from set 2 is now 1:13:14 long.
I've circulated about 20 shows on The Archive that I taped. The Archive sent me a "swag hat" for that. All of my tapes circulating here are the only sources in existence for their respective recordings. Most of my tapes are SBDs. My AUDs are fob. I taped some of the best Americana music at concerts during the mid-1970s era. I also donated
Monte's Taper Handbook web pages and indices.
My Roosevelt Stadium tapes sound a little bit weird because of the location of my mic. Notice that the audience sounds perfect, so my recording and playback gear are good. The PA sounded crappy where my mic was. If MOTB wants this job, I'll give them my Master tapes for the July 31 and Aug 1, 1973 GD shows. Or, Charlie Miller can have the job. Or, Rob Berger can have the job. Someone at etree? Someone from The Archive? Someone from GD's archive? They can decide what to do and what to say. Who's going to attack these people? That's how I see it in this case at this time. I've been hated here enough already.
http://www.archive.org/details/bear-gans1991-01-13
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rastamon |
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Aug 2, 2011 11:33am |
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Re: Roosevelt Stadium • GD • July 31 • Aug 1 • 1973 • uncirculated |
"I've been hated here enough already". NO WAY! then again I've not read much IA stuff in a year. But why did you bake alot of tapes in your hot-ass glove compartment, what were ya thinkin?? haha
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dead-head_Monte |
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Aug 2, 2011 12:05pm |
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Re: Roosevelt Stadium • GD • July 31 • Aug 1 • 1973 • uncirculated |
yep Rasta, my RFK tapes were recorded on cheap Memorex cassettes. They were in horrible condition when I transferred them to digital. I had broken tapes, bad housings, very poorly packed tape reels, and numerous spots of tape damage. Hats off to Kevin Tobin for cleaning up many of my other flaws with my June 10, 1973 transfers.
My Roosevelt stadium tapes are in good condition. When I taped both NJ shows, me and mic were with my NJ Deadhead friends - at "their" location. The prototype wall of sound didn't sound right on these two nights - at least not at my mic's location.
These master tapes and many other masters of mine did experience my car's glove box temperature extremes. They had many "freezes" below zero, and many "broilers" above 150° F over the decades.
Watkins Glen anniv. pic on July 28, 2011 - age 60, I'm 5 pounds above my "1973 taping weight"
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rastamon |
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Aug 2, 2011 12:12pm |
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Re: Roosevelt Stadium • GD • July 31 • Aug 1 • 1973 • uncirculated |
These master tapes and many other masters of mine did experience my car's glove box temperature extremes. They had many "freezes" below zero, and many "broilers" above 150° F over the decades -
decades???? what, were ya high or forget they were there?? lol
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dead-head_Monte |
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Aug 2, 2011 12:25pm |
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Re: Roosevelt Stadium • GD • July 31 • Aug 1 • 1973 • uncirculated |
Monte's master cassette tape, recorded FOB — at Roosevelt Stadium on July 31, 1973
during taping, this tape was confiscated from me by a huge Hell's Angels security dude
"reel 3" was taken from me by the GD's Hell's Angels — 30 seconds before the show ended!
Jimmy Watson retrieved it for me that night — he went backstage and GD gave it back to him
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user unknown |
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Aug 1, 2011 3:42pm |
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Re: Roosevelt Stadium • GD • July 31 • Aug 1 • 1973 • uncirculated |
Hey Monte, if you want to circulate the tapes don't worry about those who may "attack" you here. That, my friend, is simply a case of mind over matter. If you don't mind, they don't matter.
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Aug 2, 2011 6:35am |
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Re: Roosevelt Stadium • GD • July 31 • Aug 1 • 1973 • uncirculated |
Thanks for posting your recordings, Monte!
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