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LIFE BEYOND DEATH 
WITH EVIDENCE 

by 


The Rev. CHARLES DRAYTON] THOMAS 

WITH INTRODUCTION BY 

The Late VISCOUNTESS GREY GE FALLODON 


LONDON 48 PALL MAIL, 

W. COLLINS SOpS & CO LTD 

GLASGOW SYDNEY AUCKLAND 



Co^> right 

First Impression September, 1928 
Second „ October, 1928 
Third „ August, 1930 


Printed i\t Great Britain 



CONTENTS 


CHAP. FAOB 

introduction. By The Late Viscountess 
Grey of Fallodon I 

preface 5 

I. THE ARGUMENT 7 

II. COMMUNICATIONS ON THE IMPORTANCE OF THE 

SUBJECT 15 

III. EVIDENTIAL MESSAGES 22 

IV. THE EVIDENCE CANNOT BE EXPLAINED AWAY 

BY TELEPATHY 36 

V. IDENTITY SHOWN IN REPLY TO TEST QUESTIONS 40 

VI. THE HYPOTHESIS OF IMPERSONATION $2 

VII. THE SLEEP OF DEATH AND THE AWAKENING 
' - >TO GREATER LI^E #lt ^ (> 58 

VIII. WHAT OUR FRIENDS IN THE NEXT LIFE KNOW 
ABOUT OUR SURROUNDINGS AND OUR 
.. -THOUGHTS 

Part i. Our Surroundings 64 

Part 2. Our Thoughts ‘ ‘ * 79 

IX. FURTHER EVIDENCE THAT THE DEPARTED CAN 

KEEP IN'. TOUCH WITH EARTH 91 

X. 1 THE SPIRITUAL BODY IO7 

XI. THE EVIDENCE OF BOOK TESTS 113 

XII. A REAL WORLD 125 

XIII. EVIDENCE FROM EXPERIMENTS WITH THE 

DAILY PRESS 138 


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VI 


Contents 


CHAP. 


PAGE 

XIV. 

OCCUPATIONS IN THE LIFE BEYOND DEATH 

152 

XV. 

THE INTERPRETER OR CONTROL 

160 

XVI. 

" ORDER IS HEAVEN'S FIRST LAW ” 

166 

XVII. 

THE "MODUS OPERANDI OF TRANCE COMMUNI¬ 



CATION 

172 

XVIII. 

ENHANCED POWERS AND HAPPINESS 

176 

XIX. 

INFORMING THE CONTROL 

186 

XX. 

MISCONCEPTIONS RECTIFIED AFTER DEATH 

192 

XXI. 

VOICING THE MESSAGE 

197 

XXII. 

INTERCOURSE WITH EARLIER GENERATIONS 

201 

XXIII. 

DIRECT CONTROL 

207 

XXIV. 

CONTACT WITH HIGHER REALMS 

211 

XXV. 

0 *!r THE DIFFICULTY OF TRANSMITTING NAMES 



IN PSYCHIC MESSAGES 

218 

XXVI. 

THE PLACE AND CONDITION OF THE UNPRO¬ 



GRESSED 

226 

XXVII. 

THE INFLUENCE OF THE SITTER 

236 

XXVIII. 

" WHERE I AM THERE SHALL ALSO MY SERVANT 



BE ” 

1 

242 

XXIX. 

SOUL AND SPIRIT , 

247 

XXX. 

CAN THE SOUL LEAVE THE BODY DURING 



SLEEP ? 

260 

XXXI. 

A SIGNIFICANT MISTAKE 

279 

XXXII. 

THE MYSTERY OF OUTER SPACE 

287 

XXXIII. 

A SURVEY OF RESULTS 

290 

XXXIV. 

ARMISTICE DAY, 1927 

294 



INTRODUCTION 

By The Late Viscountess Grey of Fallodon 

This will be a useful book if it falls into the right hands. 
There are many to whom it may bring a measure of comfort, 
who feel an intense and despondent longing for word or 
sign from " precious friends hid in Death's dateless night" ; 
but, let it be added, only to those whom the obtaining of 
this through a medium does not fill with the sense of 
insuperable repugnance that it arouses in some. This 
book is not likely to be of use to such as find a more sub¬ 
limated union through the channel of the Holy Eucharist; 
nor will it be congenial to Theosophists, or those followers 
of Rudolf Steiner, who so rightly teach that we should 
dwell beyond the psychic, pressing on into those higher 
reaches, which are the more celestial development of our 
nature. To many, however, this is a counsel of perfection, 
and it may well be that this book will reach a wide public 
of its own. Think of the great crowd that watches a 
football match, or sees a race run, or one that lines the 
route of some royal wedding, or state funeral, and ask 
yourself how many illumined minds, how many elevated 
religious minds, even how many minds simply intuitively 
convinced of survival, are there in that sea of faces ? 
A small percentage. It is this other vaster portion of 
our fellow creatures that those of us who believe we have 
spoken with the risen dead, want to reach. And it is for 
these that such books as this are published. 

The author has observed a rigorous method of investi¬ 
gation that puts high value on his work. Readers will 
find the subject dealt with in thoroughness and integrity. 
Spiritualism has not been too rich in wise adherents. 
Sir Thomas Browne says that if the banner of Truth trails 
in the dust, it is the fault of the standard bearer. And 

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Introduction 


this subject, of all others, has had its full quota of ensign 
bearers that have been either strangely clumsy, or unworthy 
of their trust. So, to find someone willing and capable of 
working along the lines of the Society for Psychical Re¬ 
search, combining sympathy with their rigour, is no small 
good. Mr. Drayton Thomas is known to me through our 
common interest in Psychical Research ; and we have had 
more than one interesting case of cross-correspondence, in 
our work, as recorded in my book The Earthen Vessel 1 
These devices of Book Tests and Cross-correspondences, to 
the casual observer so unnecessarily complicated, were 
invented, it is believed, by a band of psychical-researchers 
on the other side of death, in order to counter the objection 
so commonly made, that all simpler communications arise 
from mind-reading. Many people think that it is we, 
spiritualists, who thrust these kinds of complicated methods 
upon our communicators, making, in a most repellent 
lightness of feeling, a kind of “ pencil and paper game,” 
out of this spiritual bond. Not at all. “ Book Tests ” and 
“ Cross-correspondences/' and the still more puzzling 
<f Newspaper Tests/' have been given us from workers who 
have progressed further along this subject than have we. 
It was a grekt moment when, in the curious phenomenon 
of Cross-correspondences, it became apparent to the 
pioneers on our side of the grave, that they were not 
working alone. When in the midst of irrelevances, 
truncated quotations, and snippets from the Classics, 
there emerged something, fragmentary but insistent, which 
suggested the thing being part of a scheme, devised by 
those on the other side, to get messages through in a way 
that could not be attributed to any activity on the part 
of the medium, nor to any mind-reading between the 
medium and the person receiving the message, by any of 
the ordinary channels of sense. The moment when this 
first was apprehended, may be likened in Myers's fine image, 
to the thrill in the heart of the worker tunnelling through 
some dark mountain's centre on hearing the first faint ring 
of the picks of the approaching party, working from the 
other side. In years to come, when people now unborn, 

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Introduction 


3 

shall look back upon this Age, to view its promontories, 
this outcome of the work of the Society for Psychical 
Research will stand as one of the Great Peaks. It is not 
that communication with the dead is any new discovery; 
it has been an old tale in the long Story of Man. The 
Folklore of every country is charged with it; religions are 
based on it and vitalised by all it implicates ; but for lack 
of verification, all this has gone down the wind. Now, in 
this modem movement, the thing is being built upon a 
rock. There has been instituted a system of evidential 
investigation. This is brought to bear on such psycho¬ 
logical material as may be presented to the test. Any¬ 
thing that has not passed through this mill is disclaimed; 
nothing is rightly held of value that does not bear the 
hall-mark of this trained scrutiny. And the work grows. 

There have been some in all ages who have held they 
spoke with the dead, and who have given us their message. 

It may be the message is being recorded, fruitfully, at 
last. 


Pamela Grey. 



PREFACE 


But what avail inadequate words to reach 
The innermost of Truth ? . . . 

Yet, if it be that something not thy own. 

Some shadow of the Thought to which our schemes. 
Creeds, cult, and ritual are at best but dreams. 

Is even to thy unworthiness made known, 

Thou mayst not hide what yet thou shouldst not dare 
To utter lightly, lest on lips of thine 
The real seem false, the beauty undivine. 

So, weighing duty in the scale of prayer. 

Give what seems given thee. It may prove a seed 
Of goodness dropped in fallow-ground of need. 

Whittier. Utterance. 

This book explains how I became assured that I was 
speaking with friends who had left earth. It also outlines 
their description of life in realms beyond. 

The whole evidence is too voluminous to print, but 
sufficient is given to indicate its variety. I have selected 
striking instances among many of equal value. There is 
little mention of failures, because these have been relatively 
few. My friends enjoy testing their powers and some 
experiments have not been entirely successful. 

The book and newspaper tests (explained in chapters 
XI. and XIII.), were experimental, and in these there 
were usually some failures. Both success and failure have 
been carefully analysed—the former by Mrs. Henry 
Sidgwick in a paper which appeared in the Proceedings of 
the Society for Psychical Research for April, 1921; 
and the latter in my book, Some New Evidence for Human 
Survival . 

The impressive force of evidence personally received is 
difficult to convey in print. My book is, to the actual fact, 

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6 Preface 

something like a collection of butterflies in a museum, 
arranged and motionless, while away in the glades of the 
forest the air is full of joyous life, flashing and flitting from 
tree to flower under the blue sky. Those who know the 
life of the forest can best realise the significance of pressed 
specimens. 

In addition to proofs, my friends tell something of their 
life and surroundings since leaving earth. But they remind 
me, from time to time, that they are unable to say all they 
wish, and that speaking through a medium is analogous 
to passing stones through a sieve; part will go through 
while the residue will not. I discuss the causes of this 
limitation in chapter XIX. and elsewhere. 

In my opinion information about our future life, with 
its practical implications, is the goal to which all psychic 
phenomena and evidence should lead. I have so arranged 
the following chapters that the evidence and the description 
alternate. This has a double advantage: it avoids the 
monotony of following one line of thought too continuously, 
and it also produces that intermingling of proof with 
description which characterises my sittings. Since the 
evidential matter proves accurate it gives added probability 
to the descriptions which accompany it. 

Further light upon such obscure subjects as the medium's 
faculty and the methods of communication will, doubtless, 
be obtained by continued investigation. One of the 
hopeful features of Psychical Research is the increasing 
number of qualified students who are now entering the 
field. 

I am indebted to the Society for Psychical Research, 
from whose literature I learnt how to appraise and dis¬ 
criminate in dealing with psychical evidence. 

But special gratitude is due to Mrs. Osborne Leonard, 
through whose kind co-operation the material of this book 
has been obtained, and to the late Viscountess Grey of 
Faflodon for many helpful suggestions, as well as for 
the Introduction to this volume. 

January , 19281 



CHAPTER I 


THE ARGUMENT 

This book is founded upon personal experience during 
eleven years of study with a highly gifted sensitive, 
Mrs. Osborne Leonard. The messages were received while 
Mrs. Leonard was in trance. As the methods of trance 
communication are becoming familiar to the more intelli¬ 
gent part of the reading public, it may be unnecessary to 
allude to them here; especially as they are fully described 
in subsequent chapters. 

My purpose is to give numerous examples of the evidence 
which has satisfied me that I am in conversation with my 
father and with my sister, Etta. The former was a Christian 
Minister who passed on in 1903 ; my sister, who had shared 
my studies for three years, passed over in 1920, As they 
both have told me much about their experiences since 
leaving earth, I devote several chapters to their descrip¬ 
tions of life as they find it in realms beyond death. 

Before presenting the main body of evidence it may be 
useful to illustrate that spirit of cautious discrimination 
and suspended judgment which should mark a student of 
psychical phenomena. I shall, therefore, review a few 
examples of the messages received in my sittings with 
Mrs. Osborne Leonard, criticising them in turn and opposing 
to each some hypothesis other than the seemingly obvious 
one of "spirit return/' I shall then adduce further 
examples which exclude those alternative hypotheses. 
Advancing in this manner, we shall come to cases for 
which there would seem to be no reasonable explanation 
but that of actual communication from one's friends in 
the unseen. 

x. I was repeatedly informed of events in our home 
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8 


The Argument 

which were unknown to me. On inquiry, these 
messages were found to correspond accurately with 
the facts. 

But might not this information have reached the 
medium’s mind by some kind of telepathic message from 
my wife who had occasionally accompanied me to Mrs. 
Leonard, and who knew of these household events ? 

2. Many such messages related to events in our 
home, of which my wife was as entirely unaware as 
was I. 

But might not these incidents have been observed 
personally by the medium during the condition termed 
“ travelling clairvoyance,” or even seen by her while 
achieving some sort of television ? This is met by a 
consideration of the next type of message which introduces 
information which could not have been ascertained by the 
medium, even had she been residing in our house. 

3. On my mentioning that I was interested in the 
Leys School at Cambridge, the communicator, who 
claimed to be my father, remarked that two people 
whom he knew had taken great interest in it. He was 
unable to transmit the names in full, but said that 
they commenced with the letters R and P. This 
puzzled me until I found that Drs. Rigg and Punshon 
had been prominently connected with the opening of 
the school. 

Clearly this was beyond the medium’s discovery by 
clairvoyance, but might it not have been read from my 
mind ? I had no conscious memory of the matter in 
question, and was but eight years old when the Leys 
School was commenced. Granting the possibility that I 
retained a subconscious memory of the event, there remains 
the difficulty of supposing that the medium’s mind could 
select such apposite information from my subconscious 
memories, and could do this at a moment’s notice. 



The Argument 9 

4. Immediately after the departure from our house 
of a guest who had spent a good deal of time in my 
study, I was told that the letters M and D, repre¬ 
senting two names, had been noticed in my room. 
On my next meeting with this guest he informed me 
that, during his stay with us, he had been thinking 
very much about the advisabilty of applying to his 
former chief to replace him upon the staff of his 
newspaper. The initials of paper and chief were 
respectively M and D. 

Here was something impossible to have been obtained 
by any means known to science. Is one to suppose that 
I had subconsciously obtained this information from our 
guest’s mind and that Mrs. Leonard had then read it from 
me ? It is difficult to feel comfortable about such a slender 
hypothesis, even though it be admitted that the powers of 
mind may be greater than we have supposed. 

5. A stranger wrote asking me to obtain news oi 
his son in a remote part of Mesopotamia, who had been 
missing since a skirmish with the Arabs. The letter 
gave his full name and the circumstances in which he 
was last heard of. I asked my communicators if they 
could help. They suggested that I should think and 
pray about the boy for several mornings before my 
next sitting, and mentally ask him to come to my 
study. They said that they would be present and 
would notice if any stranger came. During my next 
sitting they said that the lad had been to my study 
and that they had obtained information from him. 
They proceeded to give some particulars which agreed 
with what I had learnt from the father’s letter; they 
also added a full personal description and several 
evidential items. At subsequent sittings more infor¬ 
mation was forthcoming. I first forwarded the de¬ 
scription of the boy’s personal appearance, asking the 
father if he recognised it. The reply stated that it 
was more detailed and exact than the father himself 
could have given; a photograph was enclosed so that 



io The Argument 

I might satisfy myself of the extraordinary accuracy 
of the description. Encouraged by this, I sent the 
evidential messages; these included details of the 
boy’s home life, which proved to be true. It was thus 
established beyond possibility of doubt that they 
related to the boy in question, and that he had been 
killed in action. 

Is there any explanation other than that of spirit agency ? 
It might be suggested that I had subconsciously psycho- 
metrised 1 the father’s letter and so learnt particulars 
which were within the father’s knowledge. But it so 
happened that the letter sent me by the boy’s father was 
typewritten, so that if psychometry came into action at 
all it would seem to have been confined to the signature 
alone. Faced with this alternative, one finds the spirit 
explanation far the likelier. 

6 . I was told that my mother was to receive at 
Christmas a bag of unique design, and this article was 
somewhat minutely described. No such present 
appeared at Christmas, but, at the sitting following, 
the communicator expressed certainty that it would 
reach my mother soon It did; it arrived on her 
birthday, which was four weeks after Christmas. On 
meeting the lady who gave this present I learnt that 
she had made it specially for my mother, intending to 
give it at Christmas, but later decided to reserve it 
for the birthday. Full details are given later in this 
book. Where is the link in this case ? The lady lived 
at a distance, and we had neither seen nor heard of her 
for many months ; neither had I any reason to think 
she would be giving a present: nor did she know Mrs. 
Leonard. 

It would, I think, puzzle anyone to discover an alterna¬ 
tive to the explanation given by my sister, who was the 
communicator in this instance. In earthly life she had 
known the donor of this present; also, she tells me that 

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II 


The Argument 

she is often with our mother and able to notice the thoughts 
sent out to her by friends. Such a thought she had noticed 
in detail before making her prediction of this present. 
First, she caught the intention to make the gift at Christmas, 
and was still confident that it would arrive, although the 
giver changed her original plan about the date. 

7. My father showed much interest in a book I was 
writing and became impatient for its publication. 
He said, at one sitting, that if I looked on the second 
shelf behind my study door, fourth row up, and tenth 
book from the left, I would find, towards the middle 
of its fourteenth page, words forming a message which 
he would like to give out to the world. Exactly where 
described I found the following appropriate sentence. 
This suggestive little hook has appeared . 

That book was published in 1922 under the title, Some 
New Evidence for Human Survival , and in it will be found 
numbers of similarly verified book tests. It may be asked 
whether I had any idea of what might be found in the 
designated place. I had no idea whatever. The book in 
question proved to be one I had not looked at for ten 
years, and I failed to remember having noticed the sentence 
in question. If it be suggested that this was only a happy 
coincidence, mere chance, I would reply that I, and other 
investigators, have had too many such coincidences to 
credit their being the result of chance. In the chapter on 
Book Tests attention is drawn to an investigation by the 
Society for Psychical Research which decides this matter 
definitely. For where chance coincidence produced 4.7 
per cent, successes, the book tests given in trance messages 
obtained an average of 36 per cent., and my own com¬ 
municators, who had practised this type of experiment, 
achieved a considerably higher percentage of success. 
The investigation established conclusively that chance 
coincidence did not explain the book tests. 

8. Certain experiments which extended over two 
years were named newspaper tests. They were a 

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The Argument 

development of the book tests, and consisted of 
references to items which would be found in some 
public journal on the morrow—most frequently The 
Times. They were ingeniously devised by my father 
to prove his independence of any information which 
might be in my mind, or in the medium's. He also 
used them, now and again, to give additional proof of 
his identity; for he interwove incidents connected 
with his life on earth with names to be found in some 
clearly defined part of the morrow's paper. Here is 
one such instance: On January 16th, 1920, at 3.20 p.m., 
I was asked to examine the morrow's Daily Telegraph , 
and to notice on its first page, near the top of the 
second column, the name of the place where I was born. 
The message continued, " He is not sure if it is given 
as a place name, but the name is there." 

There appeared next day, four lines from the top of that 
column, the following advertisement in which “ Victoria " 
might be either a personal or a place name. Victoria — 
Send by return. Most anxious second message. I had always 
thought of my birthplace as Taunton, never as Victoria, 
but recollected having heard the latter name used in 
connection with Taunton. So I wrote to my mother asking 
for particulars. She replied that at the time of my birth 
they were living close by the Wesleyan Church of which 
my father had charge in Taunton, that it was always called 
Victoria to distinguish it from the larger Church at the 
farther end of the town ; and she added, finally, that his 
Church was situated in Victoria Street, and that the house 
where I was born was in Victoria Terrace. Comparatively 
few persons now living would remember that I was bom at 
Taunton, fewer still would be aware that I was bom at 
Victoria. Yet this is just the kind of fact which my father 
could not possibly forget. I may add that this advertise¬ 
ment had not appeared in the Telegraph of the preceding 
day. 

This class of test was, as I have said, devised to demon¬ 
strate independence of any telepathy from human minds. 
No person on earth knew the solution of the tests at the 



The Argument 13 

hour when they were given; and even the operators at 
the printing works could not be sure of the position any 
particular advertisement would occupy when the paper 
was finally made up some hours later. Two separate 
strands of information were combined by the communicator, 
who brought into definite connection some fact from his 
earth life and some name, or statement, which was 
being prepared for insertion in the morrow’s Press. It was 
my invariable custom to post a copy of these tests to the 
Society for Psychical Research on the day they were given. 
I have therefore independent witness to the fact that these 
tests were actually received by me on the day before their 
verification became possible. 

Although Newspaper Tests have been before students of 
psychical research for several years, I am not aware that 
any criticism has succeeded in casting doubt upon their 
validity. It may be confidently said that they provide 
definite proof of communication from some mind other than 
that of any person on earth; and that they sometimes 
contain evidence that the communicator is one of the 
sitter’s departed friends. 

Glance backward now to the simpler tests from which 
we started and which we sought to explain in this or in 
that manner, without attributing them to the action of the 
discamate. Having at last proved that the discamate are 
indeed speaking, we shall find it reasonable to think the 
earlier evidences were also originated by them. Spirit 
intervention being finally proved, all our earlier and 
tentative criticism must be revised in the light of that 
fact. It is wise to ask how far each result might have 
been achieved by a medium’s unaided faculties, but we 
should be as wary of attributing all phenomena to the 
medium, as of placing everything to the credit of spirits. 
Both these causes may possibly come into action at 
different times and in varying degrees. 

It may be said that the instances adduced deal with 
trivial matters, yet it would be untrue to say that they 
have been used in a trivial way. Not only were they 
accompanied by messages dealing with matters of highest 
interest, but they were so used as to demonstrate important 



14 The Argument 

facts, and to lead onward the thoughtful observer. Do 
we deride the specialists for counting the hairs on gnats 
and dissecting the entrails of mosquitoes ? Not if we 
recollect that it was by so doing they checked the fevers 
of Panama and thereby made practicable the cutting of its 
canal. To a casual observer that minute attention to 
insects might have seemed trivial, but it had in view the 
making possible of a waterway between two oceans. 
Where there is intelligent purpose small things may be 
used for great ends, and in selecting evidence from trivial 
items a very remarkable intelligence has been shown in 
these communications. If they are what they seem 
to be they are the calculated effort of some who have 
passed beyond the limited life of earth to bring us into 
a closer and more intelligent relation with the boundless 
life beyond it. 



CHAPTER II 


COMMUNICATIONS ON THE IMPORTANCE OF THE SUBJECT 

I am aware that some persons are nervous of psychical 
phenomena in any form. In some instances this is due to 
their having been told terrifying tales, or perhaps they 
recall some chance supernormal experience of which they 
did not realise the significance. To such minds the whole 
subject seems related to a mysterious and dark region 
wherein lurk unknown perils. And so they not only turn 
away from it themselves, but urge others to do the same. 

Yet in knowledge there is not only power but also 
safety. In our investigations we shall find nothing which 
cannot reveal something further of the beauty and en¬ 
trancing wonder of God's ways. Darkness is but the earth’s 
shadow, and there are always the stars above it. And 
what seems to us to be mysterious is only beauty, hidden 
for the moment in the shadow of our ignorance. Com** 
munication with our loved ones in the life beyond, should 
be a step upward in our realisation of the approachableness 
of Jesus Christ, who was the expression in human form of 
the Highest, and who is “ Our Friend, our Brother, and 
Our Lord.” 

The following extracts from conversations with my 
father and sister will indicate their view of the importance 
and helpfulness of such intercourse. 

April, 1917. Through Feda (Mrs. Leonard's “ control ”). 

Your father thinks that Spiritualism can be very 
dangerous if not properly explained. People should 
be taught to understand it. Some who accept the 
fact of spirit return, on finding that they get good 
advice from a medium, go again and again, asking 
guidance in all sorts of circumstances about which they 
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1 6 Communications on the Importance of the Subject 

ought to use their own powers. This is bad. We are 
placed on earth to develop ourselves. Such persons 
need to learn how rightly to use the privilege of 
communication, and not to remain too dependent on 
others. 

July, 1917. Through Feda . 

Your father considers that this communication might 
not be good for everyone. Some are not ready for it. 
The more one realises the reality of the spiritual life 
while on earth, the better is he able to live, and the 
more is he fitted to benefit by this kind of communica¬ 
tion. The subject has come to grief repeatedly 
because the wrong sort of people took it up and dealt 
with it in a wrong way. 

December, 1917. Through Feda . 

We are very ready to give any information which 
we think may prove helpful. I am aware that there 
are those on earth who consider they have no need of 
us. But in these difficult times there is a widespread 
need of that which will elevate life, augment and help 
a true faith, and prompt men to realise the higher self. 
When men have no ground for their faith they gradu¬ 
ally become slaves to lower influences. 

January, 1918. Through Feda . 

He has already warned you about the danger of 
bringing this subject (i.e. the reality of communication) 
before undesirable people . . . His mind has changed 
about Spiritualism as a whole, but upon the one point 
he is stronger than before. It has been misused by 
some; not only by the foolishly curious, but also by 
those who took it up for bad ends. ... It is like 
playing with a sharp weapon; they cut themselves 
badly, but, unfortunately, they often hurt others first. 
Such people give the whole subject a bad reputation. 
But, used wisely, it is a great power for good, as you 
yourself have already experienced. 



Communications on the Importance of the Subject 17 

December, 1919. My father controlling . 

Certainty about a future life will bring into the 
Kingdom of God many who are now outside. It was 
a shock to me when I realised how many had discarded 
the Christian faith on reaching manhood. Although 
I had some idea of it before, I only knew it fully after 
my passing. I then saw that relatively few, in their 
mature years, held the full certainty and truth of 
Christianity. But they can be brought back, and, 
further, we might make it certain that they would 
never again lose their faith, if facts were offered them 
at their critical period. I consider that the educational 
system is wrong; for the brain is developed at the 
expense of the soul, and superficial knowledge usurps 
the place of more important things. People need 
something they will really believe; they are ready for 
it. Those of you who know are responsible for giving 
them some proofs of the next life before they pass over. 
Fifty years back, our eyes were not opened to these 
truths relating to the next life. I heard something 
about Spiritualism, but did not think it sufficiently 
important to make it a study. So many things stare 
us in the face, to the importance of which we are not 
awake. I have talked with many here who tell me 
exactly the same thing. 

October, 1923. Through Feda. 

Etta says, I should not like to be back again in the 
body; I should not welcome it for myself, save that 
you might see and hear me. This is such an inter¬ 
esting life. When on earth I learnt something of it 
through psychic studies, and you know what joy it 
brought into my life. It opened up such a wonderful 
new mental life in me . . . Compared with this, my 
interests on earth seem so small. It will be delight¬ 
ful when you come here. 

Father speaks of the prevalence on earth of the 
dread of dying, of passing into the unknown. But it 
need not be unknown and we are working to make 
it knov?n / 



18 Communications on the Importance of the Subject 

November, 1923. My father controlling . 

I wish that the Churches were exercising a greater 
influence upon the minds of men, so that they might be 
led to consider and adopt a spiritual aim in their lives. 
I have no wish that Spiritualism should become a 
fashionable craze, yet better that than the present 
widespread indifference to all that concerns the soul 
and its after-life. I observe an absence of high aim 
and intelligent anticipation of future destiny in many 
to-day whose predecessors were, at least, regular 
attendants at church. If Spiritualism became popular, 
many might be influenced by the mere force of example, 
even if not thinking things out for themselves. But 
better that, rather than remain as they are; better 
come in like sheep, than stay away from spiritual and 
uplifting influences. There are different ways of 
arriving at spiritual knowledge, but the great thing is 
to arrive. I think that this communication is indeed 
a real method of acquiring spiritual knowledge, and 
for some people it is the best method. 

January, 1924. My sister Etta controlling . 

Father thinks that there are now many ministers 
who would thankfully welcome this subject of com¬ 
munication if they were only sure that others would 
not spoil it and do hurt by it. But he remarks. We 
cannot afford to consider only the people who would 
do harm with it. That would be like hiding all the 
knives and forks and everything else that could 
possibly be used harmfully. There are really very 
few things which could not be misused if people chose 
to make wrong use of them. 

August, 1925. Etta controlling . 

Our passing was not all loss to you, for we can now 
bring you into touch with higher tilings than we could 
have done while still on earth. This communication 
opens out things so ; it did for me. I wonder if you 
realised how much it meant to me. My knowledge 
and interest in it came to me at a time when I greatly 



Communications on the Importance of the Subject 19 

needed it. I had been feeling a need for something 
more, as if something vital were missing , notwith¬ 
standing my happy home life. Then this came to me 
just at the right time, bringing something more into 
my life, not only something fresh, but of more vital 
interest than I had ever known before. All my life 
afterwards was so full of interest. I notice that it has 
done the same for you. Also, I see that it has already 
increased your usefulness and will do so stili more. 
So you can imagine how very happy I am about it. 


January, 1926. Father controlling 

Spiritualism is important to the world for the help 
it will give in knowledge of God and in self-mastery. 
We see the difficulties besetting men, and their need 
of hope. The hope which Spiritualism gives will do 
more good than all the intellectual wrangling now in 
progress. People have strayed into agnosticism or 
worse, appalled at the imagined lack of interest in the 
future life. We do not condemn, for we understand 
their difficulties, but to know the truth would help 
them. 

April, 1926. Through Feda. 

Your father says, I am very hopeful about the future. 
When men understand the nature of life in the 
Beyond, the aspect of the country to which they must 
inevitably go sooner or later, they will make up their 
mind to prepare for it. That is my belief; if a man 
understands, he will prepare. He has not understood 
so far. What has he been taught, save that there is 
another life ? He does not know of what sort, nor 
what it is like, nor what is going on there. All is so 
vague that his ideas of it are vague, too. We wish to 
make known what it is really like, and what man has 
to prepare for. As you know, I was always a great 
believer in personal responsibility. We need to 
bring that home to men in a practical and spiritual 
sense. 



20 Communications on the Importance of the Subject 

September, 1926. Etta controlling. 

I think that the wonder of this communication 
between the two worlds increases for both of us. 
While on earth I read of those who said that, after a 
time, they found they could get no further with the 
subject. It was their mistake; for it unfolds new 
wonders continually. I think that the cause of their 
getting no further was their not marching with it, 
not permitting it to unfold in their own mind at all. 
Such persons look at it through a narrow opening only, 
and then are surprised that their view does not 
expand. 

There is no doubt that when one takes up this 
knowledge of communication and its benefits, some¬ 
thing further is expected of him. He is, in a sense, 
obliged to think more and to do more. You have 
found that you cannot keep it to yourself, as some do. 

November, 1926. Etta controlling. 

I used to think death rather dreadful, but that was 
before learning about psychical communication. Per¬ 
haps it was an idea of being hurt in getting rid of the 
physical body. There are many here who are con¬ 
vinced that there will not always be this difficulty in 
death; that a time will come when men gradually 
prepare for leaving the body, and will then go and 
later return in a transmuted body. That may be 
thousands or even millions of years ahead. Before it 
can come to pass, men's lives and bodies must become 
much purer. When men can go and return, to be 
seen by their friends, death will not seem so sudden a 
break, and others will realise that they can do the 
same when sufficiently developed spiritually. 

When we descend to spheres lower than that on 
which we dwell, we coarsen our body. “ Coarsen ” 
is scarcely a pleasant word, and my meaning is simply 
that we, to some degree, solidify it. That is accom¬ 
plished by thought. Jesus did it at will on returning. 
He did not leave his physical body behind, it was 
transmuted. Father thinks that this is what will 



Communications on the Importance of the Subject 21 

happen to all mankind eventually; what Our Lord 
did was a sample of what we might do. In the far 
future one and another will begin to do it, then many 
will follow suit. The human body can be made so 
much better than it is at present. Perhaps that is 
why the phrase, “ Body, soul and spirit,” includes the 
body; for the body is worthy of being prayed about 
and of the Divine care. 

Ours is a wonderful life, Dear. I would not come 
back now. Look upon death as an opening, and 
not as a closed door. We used to regard it as an end, 
even Christians did so. Many think that they will 
have to sleep, and sleep a very long time. I think 
those are the happier who can just trust and hold on, 
whatever comes. If only all could do that it would 
be all right; but there are always some who cannot 
do that, they require knowledge. Although a real 
faith is much higher than knowledge coming through 
Spiritualism, yet many need the latter. 

November, 1927. Father , through Feda . 

What a change your knowledge of my presence 
makes. Your consciousness of our lives, companion¬ 
ship and nearness has made a difference to you. I 
was as near before, but it did not affect you because 
you were not conscious of it in the way you now 
are. And so with the Heavenly Father's love, and 
His Spirit presence, the more you are conscious of it, 
the more you can receive and benefit by it* 



CHAPTER III 


EVIDENTIAL MESSAGES 

The following references to my father are taken from notes 
of my first sittings with Mrs. Leonard. It will be seen how 
his identity became more and more definitely established. 

My letter of introduction to Mrs. Leonard was given by 
one who, at that time, had only the slightest acquaintance 
with me. Neither he nor Mrs. Leonard have been to our 
house. None of the references to my father were elicited, 
or assisted, by "fishing” for information; to that process I 
am most sensitive and never fail to discount anything 
which might possibly be attributed thereto. It will be 
seen that many of the statements made concern matters 
which could not easily, if at all, have been ascertained by 
inquiry, whether among my acquaintances or from books 
of reference. 


ist sitting . Feb. 3rd, 1917. 

Feda said:— 

" There is an elderly man with a beard here. The 
beard is grayfch, his hair is thin at the top and rather 
sticking out at the sides. He has a moustache, the 
brows are prominent and gray. His face is good in 
shape. He is fine-looking and he held himself up 
well.” 

This is an accurate description of my father in his later 
years. 


“ He shows himself as if in a large photograph, the 
face full and looking thoughtfully. One hand rests 
upon something, while the other is out a bit away from 
him. There was something dark at the back of this 
picture.” 


22 



Evidential Messages 23 

We have a photograph corresponding to this description. 
It represents my father in early life and, as it used to hang 
in his study, it would have been strongly impressed on his 
memory. At the date of this sitting it was in my mother's 
house at Bournemouth. Mrs. Leonard was then living in 
London, and did not know my mother. 

“ He had been used to a room with books, it was a 
study and there are shelves of books. On the table 
were books and papers. The furniture was solid and 
dark. This man had met many people and had helped 
many. He must have been a fine character. The 
initial * J * comes with him." 

This accurately described my father’s study and his 
character. His first initial was “ J." 

" His throat was frequently husky, it troubled him, 
for his voice would go thick sometimes and he would 
try to clear it." 

Here followed an imitation of clearing the throat by a 
series of small, rapid coughs, and it was at about this point 
in the description that I realised its relevancy to my father. 

<f His end was sudden. He had not been very ill. 
He was surprised, and not too pleased, because there 
were things he had been accustomed to look after and 
he wished to attend to them. He was very methodical 
and liked to see to things for himself. There was a 
paper referring to some money that was * put out/ 
he was rather worried about it; the matter could not 
be carried through before he passed over, but it was 
completed afterwards." 

These remarks are correct. The money formed part of 
a Trust which he managed, and at his death a considerable 
sum had been removed from one investment and was in 
course of being transferred to another. He was most 



24 Evidential Messages 

punctilious about such matters and always prided himself 
upon being minutely accurate and methodical. 

" He is a very fine spirit, has much vigour and force. 
He would talk direct to people and always meant 
what he said. He would not allow himself to be talked 
over; he had his own ideas and stuck to them. He 
would have been very wary of this subject of com¬ 
munication, but now he knows more than he did then 
and understands it better. Feda feels that it was the 
throat and not the chest which used to cause the voice 
trouble. He would continue talking when it was out 
of order and then had to suffer for it afterwards.” 

All this is true of my father as I knew him on earth. 

Readers who are unfamiliar with the difficulties incident 
to transmission of messages through psychic channels will 
ask why my father was introduced in a way so roundabout, 
and not simply as John D. Thomas. This peculiar diffi¬ 
culty with names is discussed in chapter XXV. 


2nd sitting . March 2yd } 1917. 

** He left three important papers in a bureau. . . . 
He left some paper in a drawer, not a will, but 
‘ Guarantee ’ is the word which fits and in a way 
explains it. It looks to Feda to be a paper about so 
long and so broad (hands indicate 12 inches by 4 inches-) 
and in three or four folds, perhaps. It is a financial 
paper representing a good sum of money. It was left 
there and is important.” 

I omit a striking description of the bureau and the room 
where it stood ; for interest centres in the statement about 
the papers. “ Three important papers in a bureau ” 
correctly describes securities for the Trust money which 
he had invested in three directions. The other paper, or 
“ Guarantee,” was a Certificate of Shares in an Educational 



'Evidential Messages 2 5 

Company, which were his personal property. On examining 
this Certificate I found that it was doubled over once and 
then folded thrice. Its dimensions as folded were those 
indicated by Feda. 

My father had usually called my mother by her name, 
Sarah. Remembering this, I asked if he could “ give any 
information which would be proof to Sarah/' whom I was 
seeing shortly. Immediately came a number of descrip¬ 
tions which, it was said, she and I would be able to 
recognise. There was no hesitation in giving the reply and 
not a trace of angling for clues. 

“ There was a roonj with a great deal of wood in it. 
Put this down especially." 

Now, I could think of no room in his house to which this 
description applied, so I asked if further details could be 
given:— 

“ It was the only room in the house with so much 
wood-work, a sort of panelling on the walls." 

I was left as much in the dark as before, but when my 
mother read this she described to me the front room of a 
house in which they had resided at Great Yarmouth. 
This room was oak-panelled from floor to ceiling. My 
parents had frequently spoken about it to each other at 
the time, and they never had anything like it in any of 
the dozen houses they moved to in later years. I was 
aged four and a half when they left Yarmouth, and my 
recollection of this wood-panelling was confined to a dim 
idea of moulding around the cornice. 

" Near the bureau, but above it, and easily seen 
when sitting at it, is the picture of a man, elderly 
with fine face, a splendid character." 

This was the position occupied by a picture of John 
Wesley, in his later years. My father would certainly 



26 Evidential Messages 

have described Wesley as “ a splendid man/’ He was one 
of that great preacher’s ardent admirers. 

“ A big sideboard, old, dark, and long, projecting 
out from the wall. Underneath are cupboards and 
drawers, and at the top are cupboards again. In the 
centre is something raised, making the middle look 
higher.” 

An excellent description of a sideboard of quite unusual 
pattern which my parents had bought seventeen years 
previously when retiring from the itinerancy and furnishing 
their own house. 

“ A table with a shelf upon the top of its back; 
this shelf juts out from the back, as he describes it to 
Feda.” 

There is a bookcase bought at the same time as the 
above sideboard. It is distinctly unusual in design and is 
accurately described by the above words. 

“ There is something there that he thought a lot of. 
It is one of those glasses (here the medium’s hand 
indicated the overmantel of looking-glass in the room 
where we were sitting). Very fine; perhaps not 
everybody's taste, but he liked it much.” 

My mother recognised this as indicating the overmantel 
in my father’s study. From her I learnt that he had 
bought it at a sale and had re-enamelled it himself, and 
that he admired it more than did my mother. 

" Sarah has a screen with birds upon it.” 

I had no recollection of such a screen, but on hearing of 
this test my mother produced two such and remarked that 
they were used during the last six years of my father’s 
life. They are Japanese work, with birds figured in gold 
thread. 



Evidential Messages 27 

" There is shown to Feda a pedestal on the ground 
with a figure upon it. Pedestal about four feet high 
and white, the figure of good size.” 

My mother recognised this white pedestal and statue 
which used to stand in the dining-room at Gosport, where 
they resided for two years, leaving in 1873. It had been 
my mother’s purchase and was often the subject of my 
father’s humorous criticism. 

“There was a model of a horse in dark colour, 
standing on a shelf.” 

This answers to the rocking-horse which I played with 
in 1870-1. It stood upon a substantial wooden platform, 
and being unusually large, was the most conspicuous object 
in my play-room. 


3rd sitting . April 21 si, 1917. 

The chief indications of personal identity given in this 
sitting were the following :— 

“ He has met € B ’ there, one who was connected 
with us in a certain way, but not in the latter part of 
his life, nor under recent conditions. It was away from 
here and in a place where the air was fresher and the 
surrounding country beautiful. The house was closed 
for a time.” 

The initial given is that of the surname of our family 
solicitor with whom we formerly had business relations 
extending over many years in the Isle of Wight. He had 
passed over two months before this sitting, as I was aware 
from press notices. We had not heard from him for some 
twenty years. The family residence at Newport, I.O.W., 
had been given up, and remained closed for a period before 
being let to strangers. “ Away from here ” is correct as 
this sitting was held in London. 

L.B.D, 


c 



2 8 Evidential Messages 

“ This f B ' went to a building of grey stone, he went 
there regularly/' The description then proceeded to 
indicate a little mannerism habitual to ' B/ and which 
I instantly recognised. 

The building of grey stone to which “ B ” went regularly 
fits the church of which he was one of the oldest members 
and a prominent supporter. All these references pertained 
to matters which would be very familiar to my father, as 
they also were to me. 

“ This ' B ' was ailing for a long time, but passed 
suddenly ; the trouble was connected with his heart.” 

On this point I was without information, but on writing 
to his family discovered that it was true. 

At one period of this sitting the medium gave a 
number of little coughs and Feda remarked that the 
communicator used to do that. This was a repetition 
of the coughing and throat-clearing in the first 
Leonard sitting. She then remarked that he smiled 
at this imitation. I inquired whether he still continued 
to cough. She replied, “ 'No/ he says, T am now hale 
and hearty, looking a young man in the prime of life. 
Were you to see me as I really am, it is possible you 
might not recognise me. My appearance is more like 
the early photograph which shows me without a beard, 
but with rather prominent whiskers. Have you that 
photograph ? ' ” 

I recognised this description. The photograph, which 
had been mentioned in the first sitting, was then in my 
mother's house at Bournemouth. Mrs. Leonard had not 
been in that house and did not at this time know my 
mother. 

At another part of the sitting, and following refer¬ 
ences to friends of my wife, Feda several times repeated 
in an inquiring whisper, “ The twenty-seventh ? The 



Evidential Messages 29 

twenty-seventh ? ” And then, speaking to me, pro¬ 
ceeded, " It is not to do with them, but he is 
reminded of an anniversary which falls on a 27th. 
Ask your mother about it.” 

I replied that my mother would certainly be a most 
suitable person to ask, as her birthday falls upon a 27th. 
Feda then remarked, " He is laughing and seems pleased.” 

At five previous sittings with Mr. Yout Peters my father 
had established his identity by many correct references to 
his earth life, including a statement that he had invested 
money in mines. Peters said, “ He laughs about the mine, 
your mother was against it.” This remark was made four 
days before the present sitting with Mrs. Leonard in which 
Feda suddenly said :— 

“ He is sure that something better could have been 
done with those mines. They were not carried on in 
the same way as when started. Everything got at 
sixes and sevens. All would have been right if only 
managed rightly. He says, ‘lamas convinced of it 
now as I was then/ ” 

This is precisely the manner in which my father habitually 
alluded to two investments in mines which he had made 
against advice. 


4 th sitting. May 1.2th, 1917. 

A few days before this date I had been speaking at 
Luton. Much of this sitting was occupied in giving proofs 
that my father had been present there observing my 
movements and surroundings. There were also a few 
allusions bearing upon his identity, and these are given 
below. 


Feda said that my father had recently been with me 
at a place which he formerly knew, but that it was 
greatly changed since those days. 



30 Evidential Messages 

My father had twice visited Luton. The first time was 
in 1871 when we stayed with my uncle, the Rev. Nicholas 
Kelynack, who was then stationed there. In the year 
1900 my father was living with me at the neighbouring 
village of Toddington, and we occasionally went to Luton. 
Luton's population has doubled since those early days ; 
so it was correct to say that it had greatly changed. 

"Someone else has come here to-day with your 
father and they have been discussing the changes; 
this second person used to have a public position there 
and knew many of the people. He was useful in 
different movements started there, to which he lent 
his name and support; he was in a representative 
position." 

This seemed so accurately to fit the Rev. N. Kelynack 
(he died in 1910), that I assumed he was the person in¬ 
tended, and remarked to Feda, “ This person was related 
to my father." She at once replied:— 

" c Connected' rather than related, they say. 
Connected by marriage and not related by blood." 

This was true; he and my father had married two 
sisters. 


" Was there a family ‘ H ’ in that town ? He says 
he knows, he gives Feda the name Hunt. Also another 
of three letters, ‘ L' is the first, not quite Lee, sounds 
like Li." 

The name of three letters sounding like Li is correct. 
Mr. Lye was well known to us when we were residing at 
Toddington, and Mr. Hunt had been prominent in Luton 
during the period of my uncle’s work there. Both gentle¬ 
men were closely connected with our Church and known to 
my father. 

There is frequently a difficulty in transmitting names 
through Feda. It will be alluded to in a later chapter. 



Evidential Messages 31 

To save time and facilitate her task she usually gives only 
the initial letter. 

“ There is a place to which he saw you go for a 
meal. He used to like visiting that place c D/ ” 

The “ D ” would stand for Dunstable which is a few 
miles from Luton, and to which place I went and dined 
with old friends. My father frequently walked into 
Dunstable when living with me at Toddington and certainly 
enjoyed doing so, as it was the chief place in the Circuit 
and the centre for important meetings. Added to the 
above reference to the town “ D ” was a minutely accurate 
description of the room in which I had dined with my 
friends, as well as several identifying descriptions of the 
town, such as could be given only by one who had been 
personally familiar with it. 

It is important to add that throughout this sitting I gave 
no clue to the names of Luton or Dunstable, and that 
Mrs. Leonard was most unlikely to have heard of my 
visit there. Even had she known, it can scarcely be sup¬ 
posed that information relating to my uncle's connection 
with the place, or the room in which I dined at Dunstable, 
and other details so accurately stated during this sitting, 
could have come before her notice normally. As given, it 
sounded exactly like reminiscences from the distant past, 
combined with personal observation of my movements a 
few days previously. 


5 th sitting . June 14 th, 1917. 

In the early portion of this sitting several references 
were made to my mother, all of which related to the days 
when my father first knew her, and the early years of their 
married life. Among these were two about which I was 
uncertain. One was a detailed description of a walk by a 
river, the other referred to a red rose. My mother agreed 
with me that the river walk suggested either Newport or 
Taunton. Her one outstanding memory connected with a 



32 Evidential Messages 

red. rose was that she had worn such a flower in her hair 
on the occasion of Garibaldi's visit to Newport a few weeks 
before her marriage. 

It was in the September following this sitting that I had 
my first table-sitting with Mrs. Leonard, and noticed that 
by this means of communication there was less difficulty 
in obtaining names. I therefore took occasion to put 
questions as follows: 

Question. I wish to ask father about tests which he 
gave for mother. One was something about a 
red rose which he thought would be remembered. 
Had this anything to do with the visit of a noted 
personage to the place where she lived ? 

Reply. The table immediately, by tilts while the 
alphabet was spelled, gave the name Garibaldi. 

Question. The other described a walk by some river 
where you and mother went in the early days. 
Where was it ? 

Reply. Again the table tilted to the alphabet, giving 
the word Newport. 

To go back to my account of the trance sitting: I asked 
if my father could recollect how mother used to wear her 
hair. At this Feda (for so I must term the medium while 
under control), appeared to listen intently for a few 
seconds, and then twirled the medium's first two fingers 
round each other exactly as I remember seeing my mother 
act when doing her curls. Then after this dumb-show 
came the words, “ Corkscrews, ringlets, not just one but 
several and down the shoulders. The hair was drawn 
sideways from the forehead and then went into ringlets." 
This is as accurate a description as could have been 
expected from my father who was not proficient in feminine 
terminology. My mother would have said that in those 
days she wore her hair parted in the centre and with long 
curls. At the date of this sitting Mrs. Leonard had not 
met my mother. 

There were two further references bearing upon personal 
identity:— 



Evidential Messages 33 

“ There is a Mr. Jones whom he has met there.” Five 
items were given which served to distinguish this Jones 
from others of that name. We had no hesitation in 
identifying this description of a brother-minister with 
whom my father had been closely connected in a particularly 
difficult period of his work. 

I then mentioned the fact of my working in London at a 
Mission which had been founded by the old boys of the 
Leys School, Cambridge, and was surprised to hear the 
following remark : “ There was someone * R ' who took 
great interest in that school, also ' P Now the school 
was founded while I was a child, and I knew only two 
names among those who had worked for its establishment, 
and neither name commenced with either “ R ” or " P.” 
After making futile inquiries among those who might have 
been expected to recollect, I finally procured a copy of the 
Leys Directory . Its pages recorded that two ministers had 
been closely connected with the school's inauguration, 
viz. Morley Punshon and Dr. Rigg. Both took prominent 
part in the opening services and the first Speech Days. 
My father always took special interest in such matters, and 
his recollection of the part taken by these two in the 
school affairs is very natural, for he had greatly admired 
them both. 


6 th sitting . July 12 th, 1917. 

My mother accompanied me on this occasion and was 
introduced to Mrs. Leonard without being named. Feda's 
first remark was that my communicator was present. She 
continued:— 

" He has gone over to that lady, he is patting her 
on the shoulder; he is sitting by her and looking 
pleased. He is putting his arm over her shoulder. 
I wonder why ? It is a strange thing for him to do. 
He says, c Not at all; his conduct is quite in order/ 
He seems quite pleased. He won't come away from 
that lady. He touches her hair at the back. She used 



34 Evidential Messages 

to do her hair quite differently many years ago (here 
was repeated the finger pantomime of curling the hair, 
as at a previous sitting). Twisty, curly things, several 
of them, not just one or two.” 

My mother’s hair was up and no curls showing on this 
day. 

Feda proceeded:— 

“ There was a photograph taken of her with the 
curls. Her hair was smoother upon the top; not curly 
there, but banded. Feda thinks that gentlemen do 
not know how to describe ladies’ hair properly.” 

We have, not one, but many photographs showing my 
mother with curls in her earlier years, and one of these 
answers to the term “ banded ” ; for it shows a thick band 
of braided hair passing over the head. I refrain from 
further attempt to describe, lest I give Feda additional 
justification for her criticism. 

“ Does she laugh about the mines still, and persist 
in thinking they were no good ? Everyone said there 
was nothing in it. He asserts that they were badly 
organised, that the wrong set of people were in control 
and that this was the cause of the failure. He does not 
worry about it now, but it made a great impression on 
his mind at the time.” 

All this was appropriate, for my mother had been 
strongly opposed to these investments. 

"Someone proposed that he should not grow a 
beard; nevertheless, he took to one.” 

This was a second playful reference to my mother, as 
she had been averse to his growing a beard. It now 
occurred to me to inquire at what place he resided when 
commencing to grow the beard; I did not myself remember, 
but was certain that my mother would be able to tell me 



Evidential Messages 35 

afterwards. The name could not be given beyond the 
initial letter “ R.” I learnt afterwards that the place was 
one which we alluded to as Rasen, the Lincolnshire town of 
Market Rasen. However, the failure to give the full name 
was atoned for by a convincing description of the place 
and of his church there. 

This concludes the selection, from my first six sittings, 
of references bearing upon the identity of the communicator. 
Many more were given subsequently, to some of which 
allusion will be made in later chapters. The above will 
afford readers an opportunity of judging how far I was 
justified at this early date in assuming that my father 
was originating the messages which Feda transmitted to 
me through the medium’s lips. 



CHAPTER IV 


THE EVIDENCE CANNOT BE EXPLAINED AWAY BY 
TELEPATHY 

It was in 1882 that F. W. H. Myers suggested the term 
telepathy (feeling at a distance) to designate the trans^ 
ference of thought from one mind to another. He and 
Sir William (then Professor) Barrett found evidence that 
in certain circumstances the ideas or feelings of “ A " 
were caught by “ B,” quite apart from any known means 
of communication. The Society for Psychical Research, 
founded in the above year, published a careful examination 
of telepathy. But despite the strength of the evidence 
telepathy was rejected and even derided by the scientific 
orthodoxy of that day. People in general followed the 
scientists in refusing to believe that thought could pass 
from mind to mind apart from the usual channels of sense. 

Eventually a change came. It was seen that telepathy 
explained the results of certain experiments, and that it 
might possibly account for many curious happenings which 
had hitherto been regarded as mysterious. 

Telepathy is still denied by some. But the work of the 
Society for Psychical Research has established the fact 
that there is occasionally a communication between mind 
and mind for which we cannot account, and which seems 
to be direct thought-transmission. Maybe it happens but 
rarely, and the method of its operation remains obscure. 

However, like other things which are not fully under¬ 
stood, telepathy is credited with accomplishing far more 
than it really does. Just as novices will watch a clever 
conjuring performance and remark that the baffling results 
are due to hidden springs and wires, so is it supposed that 
all our asserted communications with people who have 
died are nothing more than instances of telepathy between 
minds on earth. 

3* 



The Evidence cannot be explained away by Telepathy 3 7 

It is suggested that our own thoughts, and those of other 
people, are being unconsciously broadcast, and that the 
sensitive brain of a trance medium “ picks up ” these 
impressions, giving them out as veritable communications 
from the dead. 

Some who have read the preceding chapter may think 
that this hypothesis offers a sufficient explanation without 
supposing any intervention from another realm of existence. 
I am not of this opinion. Years of minute inspection, with 
ample opportunity for study, testing and experiment, has 
convinced me of the contrary. I will touch on two lines 
of evidence:— 

I. The newspaper-test experiments so fully elaborated 
in the second portion of my book, Some New 
Evidence for Human Survival , prove that my 
communicators can give information which is un¬ 
known to any minds on earth. Memories of 
personal and other matters are there interwoven 
with names and sentences which are not in print 
until some hours after the test matches are given. 
This selection and interweaving is completely 
beyond any results attributable to telepathy. 

2. Shortly after the sittings recorded in the previous 
chapter, I commenced a series of experiments. 
These experiments were altered and made increas¬ 
ingly rigorous until I was completely satisfied that 
my communicator was able to obtain information 
about objects which had been placed within envel¬ 
opes, and the latter so mingled that I had no idea 
what any particular one contained until the test 
was given and they were opened and examined. 


A mere description of the contents of a sealed packet, 
or locked box, might be achieved by some form of clair¬ 
voyance on the part of a gifted medium. This has been 
repeatedly accomplished when mediums have been per¬ 
mitted to touch such packets. But in my experiments the 
envelopes and boxes were always twenty miles distant from 



3 8 The Evidence cannot he explained away by Telepathy 

the medium , and yet details of their contents were given by 
my communicator and proved to be corrrect. 

In the experiment about to be described, it should be 
noted that the essence of the test was that the communi¬ 
cator, claiming to be my father, should state his message 
in terms personal to himself. 

From my collection of cabinet photographs I took six 
and placed them side by side in an iron box. My pre¬ 
cautions included closed eyes and a perfectly dark room, 
so that I might not see the pictures. Lest touch should 
convey information to my subconscious mind, I had 
attached spring clips to each picture; holding them by 
their clips I was able to avoid touching the actual photo¬ 
graphs while mixing and placing them within the box. 
I thus avoided any knowledge, conscious or subconscious, 
of the order in which they stood. The box was then locked 
and placed on a shelf in my study; the key was put in my 
pocket; both box and key remained where placed until 
the experiment was concluded. 

At the next sitting my father told me, through Feda, 
that his own photograph stood first on the left. 

On opening the box that evening I found that my father's 
portrait was the first on the left. Further, his descriptions 
proved unmistakably that he had obtained detailed know¬ 
ledge of four of these pictures, yet, as they were known 
to me, this can be disregarded for our present purpose. 
But one outstanding item of special significance was given 
in his opening remark, Feda said : 

" He will take them from left to right. One of 
himself is there. He laughs ; he felt it.” 

Now, I had not said that his photograph would be 
included, yet he not only asserted its presence, but also 
its correct position in the box. 

On completing his description of the content fc of this 
box, he added, through Feda: 

“ Next time he will try to give the order in which 
they all stand. He does not know if he can do it. 



The Evidence cannot he explained away by Telepathy 39 

one has to try these things. People may ask, why do 
they try book-tests and such like in which they some¬ 
times fail ? We have to attempt, or we could accom¬ 
plish nothing. You were not sure when first you 
ventured out in the car, whether you could get back 
again. One must learn, and that means some degree 
of venturing.” 

The experiment was therefore repeated, the procedure 
being the same as before. On this occasion it was asserted 
that his portrait was placed third from the left. Subse¬ 
quent examination proved this to be correct, as also were 
other details relating to the order and contents of the 
pictures. 

Now, among the six photographs chosen for the experi¬ 
ment, three were of men; one of these looking slightly 
younger, the other slightly older, than my father. Mrs. 
Leonard had seen neither my father nor his portrait, nor 
had she visited our house. I have no reason to suppose 
that, at this early period of our acquaintance, she was even 
aware that my father had been a minister. But what do 
we find ? My communicator, who asserts that he is my 
father, unerringly designates the exact position of the 
photograph representing my father. No one but myself 
was aware that this portrait was being used for the experi¬ 
ments, while neither I, nor anyone else on earth, knew the 
position which his portrait occupied, relatively to the others, 
within the locked box. This case, therefore, presents no 
loophole for thought-transmission. Yet, under these 
circumstances, my father’s portrait was recognised and its 
position among the others accurately stated. 

This surpasses any result of telepathy as known to us 
whether in experiments or in spontaneous happenings. 
It demonstrates an entire independence of thought-trans¬ 
ference, whether from my own mind, or from the minds of 
others living on earth. It is, in my opinion, a sufficient 
answer to the suggestion that the numerous and accurate 
references to my father’s earth memories, instanced in 
previous pages, originated in telepathy between incarnate 
minds. 



CHAPTER V 


IDENTITY SHOWN IN REPLIES TO TEST QUESTIONS 

Three questions, which would be meaningless to strangers, 
are answered by my communicators in the manner I 
would expect from my father and sister. 

In the autumn of 1920 I decided to give my father and 
sister an opportunity of showing how appropriate an answer 
they could give to questions relating to a town of the 
north in which we had lived for three years when I was a 
boy. It was essential to this experiment that I should so 
phrase the questions as to give no clue or information. 
I therefore asked them to tell me what was suggested to 
their minds by the words I was about to say, and proceeded 
to name the title by which we had habitually alluded to a 
popular social function in my father's church in that 
northern town. I coupled with it the name of a friend who 
used to add to the gaiety of those occasions. I also asked 
for facts relating to the colleague who had occupied the 
house adjoining ours, and about “ The little hurt bird." 
This was a name we used for my sister's little playmate 
there. 

The replies, given partly through Feda, and partly 
through direct personal control, left no doubt as to each 
question being fully understood. Twenty-three statements 
were made, and these included descriptions, initials, and 
names of persons connected with the town in question, 
all correct, and entirely appropriate in their setting. 
Nothing was said which was contrary to my recollection of 
the facts, although there were seven further statements 
which, at this lapse of time, I have no means of verifying. 
These may or may not be correct. They were matters 
likely to have been within my father's or my sister’s 

40 



Identity Shown in Refly to Test Questions 41 

recollection, although not in mine. Their reply com¬ 
prised— 


3 Surnames. 10 Initials, xo Facts or descriptions. 

7 Unverified items. 

It is important to note that no name or clue, other than 
the above three questions, had been given, and that, from 
first to last, I did not mention the town to which my 
questions referred. 

Immediately after my father had replied to the first 
question Etta took control and gave a correct name, and 
two initials, all three being perfectly relevant. She then 
added the following description of a walk, well rememberd 
by me on account of its being a trespass, and therefore 
always undertaken with a feeling of apprehensive delight. 
I give her exact words, to show that they pass beyond vague 
description. 

" Do you remember being near a railway embank¬ 
ment ? There was a bridge further along. Do you 
remember walking along a short cut which one could 
go from another road ? I cannot quite recall how we 
managed it, but there was a short cut near the embank¬ 
ment. You could go down a short cut by the railway 
from the road a little way from where we lived, and so 
get into another road without going all the way 
round/' 

In the accompanying sketch all the above features are 
shown. In the foreground is the house in which we then 
lived. Between it and the railway line is the embankment, 
at the end of which a railway bridge crosses the road to the 
left. The walk described is indicated by broken lines. 
We started from a gap in our garden fence, and crossing 
private property, where there was no right of way, climbed 
up an embankment and reached the railway station. 
From the station we then crossed the line and passed the 
station-yard, after which we trespassed over fields until 
reaching a high road which was our objective, it being one 



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Identity Shown in Reply to Test Questions 43 

of our favourite walks. We thus saved a somewhat long 
detour. My sister was very young at this time and 
particularly nervous about trespassing. She would fre¬ 
quently ask if we were likely to be prosecuted. Hence this 
walk is the more likely to have been impressed on her 
memory. 

In his reply to my question about the colleague in the 
next house, my father gave, through Feda, several 
descriptions which correctly outlined certain marked 
characteristics. He then spoke of another who was there 
connected with their work, giving initials which were those 
of a third colleague living in the same town. First, he gave 
the letter B, which was the inital of this colleague's sur¬ 
name, then he added H. I remembered that Henry was this 
colleague's Christian name, and so, repeating the initials in 
the order given, viz., B. H., said that I recognised the name 
intended. Instantly came the correction, " Not in the right 
order, put them the other way, H. B." This was done so 
promptly and emphatically as to be most marked, and it 
was only after this correction that I noticed my having 
unintentionally repeated the initials in the order given by 
Feda, that is to say, B. H. instead of H. B. 

This question elicited several remarks, all of which were 
correct, and there was no hesitation, no fishing for clues, 
and nothing in the least irrelevant. 

During a sitting shortly after the above, they reverted 
to these questions, my father remarking that, “ there was 

a Mr. Ward and a Mr. B-in the same town at the same 

time, the Mr. B-being an important person there." 

This was entirely appropriate. Mr. Ward had been my 
music master and occasionally acted as deputy organist in 
my father’s church, while Mr. Bird (not to be confused 
with the above H. B.) was one of our chief church 
officials. 

I had been careful to give no clue to the meaning of 
“ little hurt bird." But Etta had shown in the previous 
sitting that she understood its reference to her child friend 
and she now used an ingenious method of indicating the 
actual name. She said that she had noticed in my study 
something which would be, "a good reminder of this 



44 Identity Shown in Reply to Test Questions 

person. Look on the shelf behind your study door, the 
second from the top, and towards the right-hand side, and 
you will find a distinct allusion to her on the outside of a 
book” The pronoun showed knowledge of the sex, whereas 
the nickname gave no clue to this. From previous ex¬ 
perience of the way in which they had practised utilising 
book titles, I gathered that some relevant name would be 
suggested, either by a title, or buried in it after the manner 
of the “ buried rivers ” game. 

I was, however, curious as to how the name required, 
which was Eva, could be indicated by any titles known to 
me. I had never noticed anything of the kind among my 
books. But on examining the shelf indicated, I discovered 
that the sixth title, counting from the right-hand side, was, 
Man the Primeval Savage . The name Eva is “ buried ” in 
the word Primeval. 

In order to discover whether this finding might be 
attributed to chance, I inspected hundreds of other titles, 
but no other provided the required name. Of all the books 
in my study there was but this one which would have 
served the purpose, and its position had been indicated by 
Etta. 

The replies to my three experimental questions contained 
a number of perfectly apposite remarks. Ihese pass far 
beyond the range of chance coincidence. No single one 
of all the thirty items given was inappropriate, although 
seven of them related to details which were outside my 
recollection. The facts stated, and found to be true, 
number twenty-three. Broadly speaking, they were not 
the memories which I should myself have selected as reply 
to these particular questions. They have all the appearance 
of independent memories culled from minds acquainted 
with our life and surroundings at a date when I was 
twelve to fifteen years of age, my sister Etta being seven 
years younger. 

Etta recalled many matters which correctly related to 
Eva, and these were given as being her associations with 
the phrase, “ Little hurt bird." To my sister and myself 
these two names would be synonymous. But they would 
not have this association for any now living on earth, save 



Identity Shown in Reply to Test Questions 45 

my mother (who was not present at these sittings) and 
myself. 

My father gave suitable replies when asked about his old 
colleague whom I indicated in a manner which would be 
meaningless to anyone who had not been intimate with 
Wesleyan circles in that one particular town. I cannot 
accept the suggestion that this information was derived 
from my own mind, conscious or subconscious; for it 
entirely omits things which had especially interested me, 
and dwells for the greater part on matters which were of 
interest to my father and sister. No doubt, the replies 
would have been more striking had names been given rather 
than initials; yet these letters were not random guesses, 
but were given in correct association with the places and 
people to which they had reference. 

The difficulty in transmitting names is dealt with in a 
special chapter of this book. It may suffice to say here 
that inability to get a name pronounced by the medium's 
lips does not necessarily imply forgetfulness on the part of 
the communicator, although that may occasionally be the 
cause. It is said by the communicators themselves, and 
reasserted by Feda, that the difficulty lies in transmitting 
to her an arbitrary sound in which she is not assisted by the 
context—a sound, moreover, which cannot be replaced by 
any substitute except an initial letter. 

I have used the word " sound," because we think of a 
name in that way; but it should not be supposed that 
Feda hears vibrations in the air when communicators 
transmit their thoughts to her. Rather is their thought 
received in a way which, to her, seems like spoken words. 
When thought-transmission is at its best and strongest 
Feda speaks of “ hearing ” ; when it weakens she can no 
longer hear, but " senses " or feels the meaning. In the 
latter case names are particularly difficult to transmit to 
her. 

After all, the important part of a message is that which 
conveys the intention of the sender, and in the above 
replies to my experimental questions I find evidence that 
my father and Etta are able to give information on matters 
which had been familiar to them in earth life; information, 



46 Identity Shown in Reply to Test Questions 

moreover, which cannot reasonably be attributed to an} 
other source, since the particular questions I asked woulc 
have suggested nothing relevant to strangers. 

Four months later again referring to the same place 
my father named two ministers, Kendal and Hardy. Th< 
former had a church there during the time of our residence 
but the latter was associated in our minds with the place 
only on account of my father having endeavoured tc 
arrange that Hardy should succeed him there on oui 
removal in 1882. As some half-dozen details were correct!} 
given about each of these men, in addition to theii 
surnames, it was obvious that my communicator recol¬ 
lected facts which dated thirty-eight years before this 
sitting. 

Three years after the foregoing, and during a sitting tc 
which my mother had accompanied me, she inquired 
through Feda whether my father and sister had met 
Mrs. Palmer. This Mrs. Palmer was widow of the colleague 
already mentioned^ and we had recently seen a notice oi 
her death. 

The reply was as follows :— 

“ It is curious that you should ask that, because 
Etta says she had intended to mention that lady 
to-day. Her husband has waited for her a long time. 
The letter E is connected with her.” 

The husband had died nineteen years previously, and 
the widow's name was Eliza. But the evidence became 
better still, for in further conversation about Mrs. Palmer, 
Etta volunteered the name of her daughter Florence, 
an old friend. She then said that among the people 
they had met in their new life was “ old John Palmer ” 
whom we might remember, although “ not connected with 
the other Palmers.” I had no difficulty in recalling this 
person, for, on the occasion of my first meeting him, 
somewhen in my early ministry, he mentioned that he had 
been present at my parents' wedding. He had never been 
named or even indirectly alluded to in these sittings, nor 
had I thought of him for many years. The similarity of 



Identity Shown in Reply to Test Questions 47 

surname had no doubt recalled him to Etta's mind when 
my mother asked the question about Mrs. Palmer. 


SYMMONDS versus SIMMONS 

Confusion between the above similar-sounding names 
accidentally affords proof of my father's identity. 
For, while I ask about the former, he speaks about the 
latter, giving information quite unknown to me, but 
which had been familiar knowledge to my father before 
my birth. 

In December, 1923, while my father was communicating, 
I asked him, by way of an experiment, to think over and 
let me know at a subsequent sitting “ the associations in 
his memory with the name Symmonds whom mother used 
to know." He agreed to do this. 

The person to whom I thus alluded was a Mr. Symmonds 
of Wimbome, a very old friend of our family. While 
visiting Mr. and Mrs. Symmonds my mother first met my 
father; it was this fact that prompted me to say “ Sym¬ 
monds whom mother used to know." In asking this 
question I was thinking of Mr. Symmonds of Wimbome 
and of no other person ; indeed, it did not occur to me that 
there was anyone else known to my father whom he could 
possibly confuse with this friend. Needless to add, I 
merely pronounced this name and did not spell it. Had I 
spelled it the result might have been different. As it 
happened, events proved that my father mistook the 
question and thought of another person with whom he and 
my mother had been on close terms of friendship, one whose 
name was spelled differently but easily mistaken in sound 
for Symmonds. 

At a later sitting Feda, speaking for my father, intro¬ 
duced the subject. She said:— 


“ He asks if you have quite lately heard of a death 
which has reminded you of Simmons ? You may not 
have heard yet This death has not to do with 



48 Identity Shown in Reply to Test Questions 

Simmons, but he thought you would have read of it. 
It is another name beginning with S. It takes youi 
father back to a time long ago and to a place con¬ 
nected with Simmons.” 

In taking notes at this sitting I spelled the name Sym- 
monds, supposing that the Wimbome friend was being 
spoken of. But as Feda proceeded I realised that what 
was being said seemed to have no connection with that 
person. While studying the reply on my return home I 
began to ask myself whether my question might have been 
misunderstood, and whether the descriptions given were 
intended to apply to someone else ? Only then did I 
remember that my parents had spoken of a similar name 
in connection with their residence at Taunton, the place 
of my birth. 

On asking my mother about this I learnt that a Rev. 
Samuel Simmons had been Governor of the Taunton 
Wesleyan College when my father went to live in that 
town, and they had been colleagues. Moreover, my mother 
recognised that some of the descriptions given through 
Feda would apply to this Mr. Simmons. I therefore wrote 
to his surviving daughter, enclosing a copy of my notes and 
asking her opinion about them. Her reply commenced as 
follows :— 

” I was really startled at the first question, as to 
hearing of a death reminding one of the name Simmons; 
because only a week or fortnight previously I had 
read in The Times of the death of Mrs. Savery at 
Taunton. She was a Miss Carrie Sibly in your father's 
time there, and her father and mine worked together 
in those days at the college, Mr. Sibly being head 
master and my father the governor.” 

This established the correctness of my father's first 
remark in replying to my question. There had occurred 
' recently—a fact unknown to me—the death of one whose 
surname had the initial “ S.” This name, moreover, 
connected with the Simmons of long ago; for, when my 



Identity Shown in Refly to Ten Questions 49 

father went to Taunton, Mr. Sibly was headmaster and 
Mr. Simmons the governor of the college there. Thus it 
is certain that Sibly, Simmons, and Taunton would all 
have been connected in my father's mind with that distant 
date. 

We find here a clear indication, supported by more to be 
considered immediately, that my thought of Mr. Symmonds 
of Wimbome had no influence whatever upon the reply 
elicited by my question. On the contrary, my father had 
followed his own line of memory and had given particulars 
about a person and place which were not in my mind. 

Feda next described some work in which my father and 
Mr. Simmons had been mutually interested. This may be 
right or wrong; there is no way of deciding it after this 
lapse of time; it is likely to have been correct. 

Feda next said that she was being shown the picture of 
a place, and this she described in a somewhat disjointed 
manner. When subsequently I visited Taunton it became 
apparent that part of the town near our church agreed in 
many features with this description. 

She then continued :— 

“ Walker was connected with this place; he was one 
whom your father knew well. Ferren or Farren— 

though that is not quite right—also Fr-, a man who 

was connected with it. There was a place W-near, 

rather a long name, which your father had much to 
do with." 

In commenting upon the above sentences, Mr. Simmons's 
daughter wrote:— 

" The name Walker recalled to me at once a college 
master who, I believe, was in the school at the time 
of my father's death; he was known by the boys as 
Sammy Walker. The name French, too, was that of 
an important family, and Mr. Henry French was a 
master at the college." 

In the Taunton Wesleyan Circuit were two places of 



50 Identity Shown in Reply to Test Questions 

which the names commence with “W," viz., Wellington and 
Wiviliscombe. Part of my father's duty was to take 
services at both. A lady who had lived at Wellington 
while my father was at Taunton tells me that in those 
days an important family of Wesleyans named Farrant 
resided at Wiviliscombe. 

So here we find the name Walker given correctly and 
verified; the name Farrant obviously attempted in 

" Ferren or Farran”; while the abortive effort “ Fr-” 

indicated the family called French. Of these three names 
the only one known to me was French . 1 

Two further items conclude this reply to my 
tion:— 


“We had a disappointment when at this place, 
although f disappointment' is not quite the right 
word; a person's leaving was an important loss, it was 
a passing over." 

On inquiry I learnt that the Rev. Samuel Simmons, 
Governor of the College, died during my father’s residence 
at Taunton. My parents had been on terms of intimate 
friendship with the Simmons family. 

The phrasing of the above sentence, in its vague com¬ 
mencement, and gradual approach to exact statement well 
illustrates Feda's method of obtaining from the communi¬ 
cator, first a general idea, then successive approximations, 
and finally the thought which it is desired to express. 

" He feels a curious connection again between this 
place and you. You are going to have news." 

As I was listening with Wimbome in my thought, it is 
certain that I could have had no clue to the meaning of 
this remark. But three days afterwards I received a 
letter from Taunton, written by one who recalled my 
father's residence there. 


1 It may be interesting to note that on another occasion Feda again failed to 
transmit this name French, although there was then little d oubt t hat * F r— 
was an attempt to transmit the sound French. (See Chap. XXXI)* 



Identity Shown in Reply to Test Questions 51 

The chief interest of the above experiment turns upon 
the fact that the two names, Symmonds and Simmons, 
although different in spelling, are sufficiently similar in 
sound to make confusion likely. When asking for associa¬ 
tions with a Symmonds whom my mother used to know, 
I was thinking only of the friend at Wimbome, and it did 
not occur to me that this name could be confused with any 
other. But my communicator went on to give references 
which connect with quite a different person, one with 
whom my father had been on terms of intimacy some fifty 
years earlier. The items mentioned include several which 
had never been within my knowledge. As received by me 
at the sitting they seemed wholly inaccurate. I could not 
connect them, even remotely, with the person about whom 
I had asked. This experience is valuable, therefore, as it 
affords no support whatever for the suggestion that the 
medium was tapping my subconscious mind. 



CHAPTER VI 


THE HYPOTHESIS OF IMPERSONATION 

<f Have we any guarantee that the communications which 
seem to come from our friends beyond death are not 
concocted by impersonating spirits, or by the devil him- 
self ? ” This question is asked by some who think that 
certain isolated texts of Scripture warrant their fear. 
Others go further and change the question into an assertion. 
This may be termed The Devil Impersonation hypothesis. 

Before adducing specific reasons for its invalidity, there 
are two considerations which these objectors will be well 
advised to ponder. 

Firstly, it must be emphatically stated that, if appear¬ 
ances of the dead and messages from them are, in these 
days, the result of impersonation, it is open to anyone to 
assert that such appearances and messages as are recorded 
in the New Testament were likewise impersonations and 
deceptions. But this is a reductio ad absurdum . No evil 
personality would have wrought deception for such ends 
as were achieved by the founding of the Christian Church. 
Our Lord's own test can be here applied, “ By their fruits 
ye shall know them." More than once He had to deal 
with minds similarly hesitant as to the good or evil origin 
of what they heard. He directed their attention to the 
results. "A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, 
neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit." The 
appearances and messages recorded in the Gospels were 
instrumental in founding a religious movement which has 
endured through the centuries with ever widening blessing. 
The fruit has been good. Who dare suggest that it sprang 
from an impersonation ? 

Secondly, it should be realised that present-day messages 
from those whom we identify with our risen friends have 
led to good. Multitudes confess that they have been turned 

52 



The Hypothesis of Impersonation 53 

thereby from doubt to belief, from agnosticism to faith; 
in short, the religious instinct has been enriched and 
intensified and in no wise lessened. The fruit has been 
good. No one who is aware of the uplifting influence which 
many have proved in their lives will suggest that this is 
the work of deceiving spirits who desire to neutralise the 
influence of Jesus Christ, or to degrade man's thought and 
life. If evil powers were the source of these communica¬ 
tions they would be doing the work of God's ministering 
spirits and undermining the hold of evil on mankind. 

The impersonation hypothesis is founded on an un¬ 
worthy conception of the world unseen. It pictures evil 
spirits permitted to impersonate one's risen friends, while 
these are unable to intervene. Such an idea can only arise 
from the assumption that the frequent, if temporary, 
triumph of evil over good, of falsehood over truth, so often 
observed on earth must still prevail, even in higher realms. 
But have we any reason for supposing that evil is more 
triumphant there than it is here ? Even in this life truth 
comes into its own ; falsehood is self-betrayed, the will 
towards good is supplemented by unseen powers and slowly 
wins its widening way. 

To believe that our messages are the work of deceiving 
spirits is to suppose that the evil beings are more powerful 
than the good. It assumes that evil intelligences, bent 
upon the misleading and degradation of humanity, have 
embarked upon a systematic venture which, in complete 
variance from their intention, is leading men to a more 
spiritual conception of life, to keener and more determined 
aspiration after righteousness, and to a more reasoned trust 
in Jesus Christ. 

For such nightmare fancies there is no foundation in 
observed fact. Those who speak with us from across the 
borderland of life are just the same lovable, faithful 
friends whom we knew before death took them from our 
sight. They display the same solicitude for our welfare, 
moral and spiritual, as they did when here. They give 
numerous and convincing proofs of their identity, both in 
the definite tests which they volunteer, eager to convince 
us that they live, as well as in those which we demand of 



^4 The Hypothesis of Impersonation 

them in order to establish this truth. There are the subtle 
touches of character and the mannerisms which friendship 
unfailingly recognises. They show the same love and 
reverence for whatever is good and honourable; and I bear 
witness to the fact that my friends retain the same rever¬ 
ence,. love and devotion for God and for Jesus which 
marked their lives when I knew them here on earth. 

Throughout eleven years of frequent converse with 
those beyond the veil I have found nothing to suggest that 
they are other than they claim to be; nor have I ever 
observed the slightest indication that those speaking to me 
are animated by anything save the sincerest desire for my 
betterment. If, throughout these years, I have been 
speaking with those who wish to amuse themselves by 
deceiving me, or to do me hurt by impersonating my loved 
ones, then the only possible conclusion would be that they 
are taking considerable pains for no intelligent end. Such 
amusement must have palled on them long ago. The 
dullest of them must have perceived before this that 
instead of doing me harm they are helping me to rise 
beyond possibility of being hurt, either mentally or spirit¬ 
ually, since they have led me nearer God. In short, the 
devil of this hypothesis would be neither evil nor clever, 
but sufficiently inane to be undertaking an immense amount 
of pains to defeat his own ends by raising me towards a 
plane of thought and aspiration in which evil has no place. 

Let us now regard the situation from another point of 
view. Supposing Jesus did come back and speak to His 
friends on earth ; supposing Peter, Paul and others were 
truly favoured with communications from heavenly helpers; 
supposing my own friends are enabled to speak with me 
by psychic means, so that I receive the purport of what 
they wish to say; then all that I have met with during 
these years of experimental study is intelligible. Indeed, 
it is exactly what one would have expected, provided one 
had realised something of the difficulties of transmitting 
thought through imperfect channels. The occasional con¬ 
fusion in the messages, together with the inability to get 
certain names and words correctly reproduced, are pre¬ 
cisely what must result from the limitations of the method 



The Hypothesis of Impersonation 55 

used. Like the blurrings of celestial objects in the earlier 
and imperfect telescopes, which were easily resolved into 
clear definition by the employment of better instruments, 
so do we find that confusions arising with poorly developed 
mediums are made clear when the communicator speaks to 
us through a more gifted and practised human instrument. 

I doubt if any impartial seeker after truth could retain 
the devil hypothesis after studying the modus operandi of 
trance messages with a medium of fine power and high 
mind. By such study one learns experimentally some of 
the difficulties under which our friends work while com¬ 
municating, and how greatly they are limited in expressing 
themselves by the mental resources of the medium em¬ 
ployed. One discovers the causes of confusions and mis¬ 
takes, and how to apportion these between communicator, 
medium and control. But such study does not explain to 
any logical mind why, on the devil hypothesis, these 
particular classes of mistake and limitation should be 
present. For the mistakes and confusions are not such as 
would happen were the speaker reading our thoughts at the 
moment. For example, I am frequently aware of the name 
which would clinch the message, or of some fact which has 
been misstated. But my clear thought upon these points 
does not help the speaker; it is rather the rule that the less 
one thinks of what ought to be said, the more likely is it to 
be correctly given. Again, I am frequently aware of items 
which, if stated, would greatly add to the completeness and 
convincing character of the evidence which is being given; 
but the speaker does not avail himself of my recollections; 
he gives his own ideas of the matter and not mine. 

Just as I am always careful to consider how much of the 
information given might have been obtained by the 
medium through normal channels, so also do I ask myself 
how much of it existed in my own mind, whether conscious 
or subliminal. My interest would not have been sustained 
through years of study had I found that the medium was 
weaving messages from material obtainable from outside 
sources, or that the communicator's conversation was com¬ 
posed of my own memories. I have found that the medium 
freely transmits what could not have been discovered 



$6 The Hypothesis of Impersonation 

normally, and that my communicators consistently give 
their own ideas and draw upon their own memories. They 
also reveal those characteristics with which I was familiar 
as pertaining to my friends during their earthly life, and 
each remains true to himself; their respective individual¬ 
ities never blend. All happens as if I were conversing with 
those whose names the speakers claim ; and, so far as I can 
see, the happenings are quite unlike attempts at imperson- 
tion. I speak, of course, of my experiences with capable 
mediums. The confused messages in elementary experi¬ 
ments with automatic writing, planchette, ouija, or glass- 
and-letter methods of communication, are frequently 
baffling and open to doubt. These are best studied by 
giving the communicators an opportunity of clearing them 
up while speaking through more satisfactory channels. 

If our messages originate with deceased friends then the 
latter do remarkably well, considering the difficulties under 
which they have to work, difficulties which must continue 
while our ability to provide them with adequate channels of 
communication remains so limited. 

In discussing the devil impersonation hypothesis one 
cannot forget that Our Lord's critics raised the same cry 
of " Devil." Unable to disabuse their minds of fear, even 
in presence of His blameless personality and beneficent 
activities, they attributed his works to diabolic co-operation. 
“ Thou hast a devil," was their reply to his teaching. A 
similar trend of mind now regards with suspicion com¬ 
munications which do not conform with conventional ideas 
about our relation with the world unseen. 

My father speaks of Our Lord Jesus in terms which 
would satisfy orthodoxy. He and my sister, as well as 
others who have conclusively proved their identity, 
describe occasions on which they have seen Our Lord and 
have heard Him speak. Is this the action of a subtle 
enemy who desires my undoing ? It is not what one would 
expect from diabolic agencies. On the other hand, it is 
exactly what I should expect from those who claim to be 
giving these teachings. Why should I doubt their bona 
Jides ? I have never found the slightest cause for so doing 
in all the years of my intercourse with them. 



The Hypothesis of Impersonation 57 

The devil hypothesis has no basis in observed fact 
conscientiously interpreted, nor is it held by those who 
have first-hand experience of these studies, I recall with 
amusement the solemn pronouncement made by a minister 
of religion who told me that he was sure that all these 
communications were the work of the evil one. He 
described how he had proved this by his own automatic 
writing; for as soon as his hand had acquired the power of 
writing without his conscious volition and had scribbled 
messages purporting to come from deceased friends, he had 
gravely demanded, Are not you who write really a devil ? 
To his great satisfaction the word “ Yes ” was written in 
reply. And so, for him, the matter was settled. Had he 
cared honestly to study the subject he would have learnt 
that his reply was the reproduction by his subconscious 
mind of an idea which he had committed to its keeping. 
A genuine devil would have replied in the negative. 

I believe in One God, maker and ruler of this world and 
the next. I entirely disbelieve in any omniscient and 
almighty evil spirit. Evil there must be in the unseen ; 
for multitudes of evilly disposed people are continually 
passing thither from this earth. I know no reason for 
supposing that their power for evil is increased when they 
change this life for the next, nor do I believe that they will 
perpetually retain the state of mind in which they pass over. 
In the clearer light of the Beyond, evil loses the disguise 
which.hid its real nature here, and it then appears in its 
essential hideousness and folly. Also, it brings home to its 
devotees, by the stem logic of cause and effect, the dis¬ 
qualifications which it has imposed upon them. This 
painful revelation ultimately prepares misguided souls for 
appreciating the guidance and help which He, who is 
Infinite Love and Wisdom, places around his backward 
children. Such is my faith. It is not contradicted by 
any Scripture intelligently interpreted, nor by the divinely 
implanted instincts of the human soul; it lies implicit in 
Our Lord's words concerning the Heavenly Father, and is 
confirmed by the experiences transmitted to us by those 
who speak from the other side of death. 



CHAPTER VII 


THE SLEEP OF DEATH AND THE AWAKENING TO GREATER 

LIFE 

Death has been a mystery. The lifeless body of a friend 
has all the appearance of profound slumber. But it 
speedily undergoes chemical changes which ultimately 
destroy it. The cage is empty, its tenant has escaped 
elsewhere. 

“ How shall we bury you ? ” asked his friend, as Socrates 
was about to drink the hemlock. “ Just as you please, 
if only you can catch me, and I do not escape you/' said 
Socrates, “ for when I have drunk the poison I shall no 
longer remain with you, but shall depart to some happy 
state of the blessed/* 

A greater than Socrates assured His disciples that when 
He was crucified He would pass into another state of life. 
His subsequent reappearances created in those who loved 
Him an invincible enthusiasm ; they saw that death was a 
step upward into greater life. 

Some who have experienced the earlier stages of death, 
and then revived, have given an account of what, at the 
time, had seemed to be their last moments on earth. Their 
story is tranquillising and encouraging. 

But we learn much more from those who, having finally 
crossed over, are able to return and describe their falling 
asleep and the subsequent awakening beyond bodily death. 

My father once said:— 

I wish you could come here for a week and re¬ 
member it on returning to earth. But there is a 
subconscious awareness, even with some who have 
heard nothing about life on our side, but who are 
doing their best, notwithstanding absence of knowledge. 



The Awakening to Greater Life 59 

I am certain that when they come to the end of 
physical life they have some intimation of what awaits 
them here, and this brings them a more wonderful 
knowledge than they had ever dreamed of, even if it 
comes only a few seconds before their transition. It 
is something like approaching a bridge in a thick fog, 
and the fog lifts suddenly so that the opposite bank 
is clearly seen. You will have known instances where 
those previously passed over have been seen by the 
dying, who exclaim, “ I can see so-and-so/* It seems 
unfortunate that so often there is no physical strength 
left to tell what they see. But I think they do see. 

O.D.T.: Did you yourself see just at the last ? 

Father: (The reply was given with unusual solemnity 
and emphasis). I did. I felt not one presence only, 
but several. At the time one does not reason about 
it, and may be unable to ask oneself why it is so, 
being able only to realise, “ They are here/' 

Speaking of his earliest consciousness after death my 
father remarked on his surprise at seeing trees, flowers and 
birds. It must be remembered that his passing had been 
as sudden as it was unexpected. Owing to what seemed 
a temporary indisposition he had spent the day in bed. 
The doctor saw nothing serious in his condition, and he 
was able to do some writing. Towards the close of the 
afternoon my mother left him alone for a while and on 
returning found him in the act of expiring. 

He tells me that, following his surprise at seeing trees 
and flowers when waking, he had a hazy recollection of a 
proposed absence from home. It occurred to him that he 
must have already made the journey and commenced the 
visit for, had he been in his own room, neither flowers nor 
trees would have been visible. Presently he rose and 
walked out among the trees. In the distance he observed 
a house standing on a grassy slope. "While wondering as 
to his whereabouts he was joined by one who, in friendly 
conversation, made him realise what had taken place. 

L.B.D. e 



ISo The Sleep of Death and 

Not long afterwards he was enabled to return and view 
his earthly home. He could see the familiar rooms and 
realise the sorrow we were feeling. He longed to be able 
to prove to us, what he was aware we all believed— 
namely, that he still lived and that his love for us was 
unchanged. Fourteen years later there came the oppor¬ 
tunity for which he had been waiting: I commenced a 
course of psychical investigation. 


My sister died shortly after a serious operation. Being 
aware of her approaching transition, she discussed it calmly 
with me during our last interview. Having to some extent 
shared my psychic studies, she knew that she would be 
able to communicate with me, and this knowledge softened 
for both of us the pain of parting. 

Some months later she described to me her awakening 
in the new life beyond death. It was, in substance, as 
follows:— 

From where she found herself reclining she looked 
through an open doorway into a garden of flowers, and 
realised that she was in the home which had been de¬ 
scribed by her father in his communications. While gazing 
out upon the scene of beauty and light she became aware 
that her father was standing near. They did not im¬ 
mediately speak in words, but it seemed to her that they 
were thinking to each other, exchanging ideas mentally 
without spoken words. When, presently, he spoke she 
found it delightful to hear his voice again, and to be able 
to reply in the old, familiar way. 

She added, that to find herself there did not seem so 
strange as might have been expected. Memories came to 
her of having been there previously; the place was not 
wholly unfamiliar. Later, she learnt that at times, during 
sleep, her soul had visited and grown accustomed to the 
place ; although, when waking from such sleep, no normal 
consciousness remained of what the soul had enjoyed. 
Her physical brain had not been able to share the experi¬ 
ences of the soul. 



the Awakening to Greater Life 61 

Seven months after her passing she again alluded to this 
experience:— 

“ It is difficult to realise I have been here so long a 
time, it seems no more than a few weeks ; for there is 
so much to do, to see, and to learn. I am glad to 
have known before my passing something about this 
life and the possibilities of communication with you. 
Before finally leaving earth I seemed to be dreaming, 
and yet it was not wholly a dream. It seemed as if I 
had come here before the final separation from my 
physical body. I was only partly conscious towards 
the last, only half within the body ; for my soul was 
already freeing itself. Nor did it seem wholly strange 
to me when I found myself here. I must have 
frequently come during sleep; for I could now re¬ 
member that I had been here previously/’ 1 

The following account of death and awakening was given 
by one whom I had known for many years, and who had 
passed her last hours in unconsciousness. To those who 
were watching her it seemed as if body and mind were in 
extreme discomfort, and only a few isolated sentences, 
uttered amid the ramblings of delirium, hinted at the 
experience which the soul was then enjoying. I had been 
told of these hints—references to seeing her parents—and 
so took occasion to inquire, during her first communication 
with me, whether in her last hours on earth she had seen 
the friends who had gone before. She replied :— 

“ You ask if I saw anyone before passing. I seemed 
lifted above the usual things and surroundings, and I 
had a dream or vision, I do not know what you would 
call it. It seemed at the time like a very wonderful, 
happy and peaceful dream, in which I was with, not 
only those who had passed over recently, but with 
father and mother and many relations whom I had 
not seen for a long, long time. Now you ask : Did I 
see them ? Yes, I saw them, though not with physical 

1 See Chap. XXX for discussion of sleep experiences. 



6 2 


The Sleep of Death and 

sight, but I saw them. They were as satisfactory to 
me, as clear and distinct, as anything I had ever seen 
in my ordinary earth life. 

“Now I was not conscious of any change, or anything 
abrupt, but from that very happy dream I seemed to 
pass into a peaceful sleep, and I think I emerged into a 
more or less conscious state, now and again, because I 
seemed occasionally aware that there were people whom 
I knew and loved who were near me, and taking care of 
me, and I was quite content to let it be so. 

“ I hear now that I slept for three or four days. But 
when I woke, completely awoke, I felt refreshed, and 
so much younger and better in every way than I had 
felt for many years. . . . 

And now, here we are all together again, all the 
people I used to know and love ; all are here at their 
best, best time, best health, best everything. . . . ” 

We get a glimpse from a slightly different angle in the 
experience of G. M„ who had been a life-long friend of my 
father and who was welcomed by him on his passing. My 
father and sister, in describing his awakening, said :— 

“ He has been rather surprised to find how extremely 
natural it all is here. At first he could scarcely realise 
it, but on the whole it has been a great relief to him. 
It is intensely interesting to welcome people like 
G. M.; for, beside the pleasure of having them with us, 
there is the extraordinary interest of observing their 
surprise on awakening. They always exhibit relief 
at finding themselves in a tangible world. Many 
people fear death owing to an idea that they are about 
to exchange the tangible for the intangible. It is not 
fear of finding themselves in a bad place, but rather 
a dread of the unaccustomed. In this case, G. M. was 
particularly pleased to find tangible things and people 
around him, and scope for activity/' 

A few weeks later G. M. was again spoken of:— 



the Awakening to Greater Life 63 

“ G. M. is getting on remarkably well and quickly 
picking up the new conditions. He is most interested 
in everything. He has now ceased to question the 
reality of what he sees around him. At first, he was 
inclined to say, ‘ Well, what I see cannot be really 
present/ But after a short while he had to admit 
that so many different things could not exist merely 
in his imagination, and that the most vivid dream 
could not go on so long. He tells us that, having now 
relinquished that mental attitude, he feels pleased and 
enthusiastic about everything, and insatiable in his 
desdre to see and know more. He says that again and 
again he stops to ask himself , 4 Why did we not know 
this while on earth ? ' ” 

Expressed concisely, and omitting personal details, the 
usual testimony of those who, in these communications 
allude to their passing, is as follows :— 

“ On awakening from unconsciousness I felt free 
from pain, quite strong, and full of gladness. It was 
a great relief to know that death was past. My 
new-found happiness was increased by the sight of 
old friends who gathered around and who gave me 
welcome. I then wished to return and see those left 
behind; after some little time I was able to do this/' 

The collective testimony of those speaking from the 
next life is remarkably consistent. It is frequently inter¬ 
mingled with convincing proofs of the speaker's identity; 
I am therefore left without a doubt that these descriptions 
represent, so far as language makes possible, the actual 
experience of death. 



CHAPTER VIII 


WHAT OUR FRIENDS IN THE NEXT LIFE KNOW ABOUT OUR 
SURROUNDINGS AND OUR THOUGHTS 

Part i. Concerning our Surroundings 

Death implies separation. To some this separation seems 
complete: it is assumed that we can know nothing of our 
loved one's doings, and that he is possibly in a like 
ignorance of ours. The heart asks questions which neither 
Church nor Science can answer. We are free to hope, to 
imagine, to philosophise, but it is assumed that none can 
know. 

I have written elsewhere on this question and shown 
that those in the life beyond death are able to come to 
us and inform themselves of our doings. (See chapter 
“ Our Unseen Observers ” in Life after Death : edited by 
Sir James Marchant. Cassell). The data at disposal may 
be briefly indicated as,— 

1. That which is told us by those whp, in their last 

hours, attain some degree of clairvoyance and who 
recognise deceased friends around them. The 
exercise of this clairvoyant faculty by other persons 
provides evidence supporting the reality of these 
visions seen by the dying. 

2. The experience of trance mediumship and other 

methods of psychic communication; for many of 
those who speak with us tell how they were welcomed 
‘after death by friends who had anticipated their 
arrival. 

3. The statements of our communicators, who repeatedly 

claim ability to observe us and to know many 
things about our life. 

64 




To fuce page. 60. 

The Illuminated Address, of which this is a photograph, had come into 
my possession eighteen months before I first went to Mrs Leonard. 
It was mentioned at my second sitting, and the description included the 
following items ■— 

“ Narrow frame, a pattern in the frame, this pattern is m writing, 
there is a white margin and a thin line round the edge, the writing 
scrollified, letters elaborate and looking slightly twisted, at the bottom 
near the corner is some different small writing. Not a bought thing, but 
presented ” 

Note that the small writing at the bottom was wrongly stated to 
be near the corner 

I realised this reference to a Presentation which had belonged to my 
father’s father, but I was not sufficiently familiar with it to check these 
points at the time Only on returning home did I discover the surprising 
degree of accuracy. The medium had never visited our house, nor had 
this article been consciously in my thought for some months. It would 
seem natural that my father, in his attempt to show that he was con¬ 
versant with my surroundings at home, should mention this Illuminated 
Address. 

For a full account, see page 65 











To face page 6 7 

The above is a photograph of the painting in my study which was 
described at a Leonard sitting as follows — 

“ A ladv is shown three-quarter face, hair done in a queer way, standing 
out towards the top back of head and made to look as if there were a 
good deal of it, the face medium full and-between round and oval, nose 
rather straight chin round but not prominent, and slightly receding, 
brows mther arched* and eyes a little full, the head slightly on one side 
giving a questioning look, something on the frock looks hkelines^ corning 
down from the shoulders and approaching from cach side as d^ce d, 
a dark shadow behind shoulders and neck, but not behind the head, the 
hair is down a bit on one side as if to show it off 

Two items were incorrect, viz. : “ The bodice is dark and rather tight 
fitting ” " Has she not one arm across the lower part of the breast, with 

^XflVeen'aS toTescrlbe this picture my attempt would have 
been less accurate 

For the full account, see page oo. 



What Our Friends in the Next Life Know 65 

4. The proofs of this claim, found in collections of 
verified facts observed and recorded by conscientious 
and independent investigators. 

In my earlier researches I found my father eager to show 
his intimacy with my inner life^and outward circumstance. 
Proofs were given by means of clairvoyance, clairaudience, 
the direct voice, and trance utterance. When I commenced 
my series of sittings with Mrs. Leonard the proofs increased 
and ultimately convinced me of two facts. Firstly, that 
my father and others in the Beyond are able to observe 
my actions and my surroundings; also, to visit others they 
love and acquaint themselves with their daily life. 
Secondly, that it is easy for them to keep in touch with 
our inner life; that they can perceive one's thought, mood, 
emotion and aspiration in a degree seldom or never achieved 
by those among whom we live. As my sister once re¬ 
marked, speaking for herself and others, “ We know those 
we love so much more and better than we did on earth." 

Let us consider first a few simple instances relating to 
objects well known to me. Scores of such are summarised 
by saying that I have received descriptions of furniture, 
pictures, ornaments, the interior of our house, books, 
papers, etc., and that these descriptions often included 
details which I had not previously noticed. This evidence 
was given that I might realise my father's minute acquain¬ 
tance with our home. As we came here some years after 
his passing, he had no earth memories of it. 

It was on my second visit to Mrs. Leonard that her 
control, speaking for my father, described an illuminated 
address which hung in an obscure position in our box 
room. 


He shows Feda a framed pattern. It is some¬ 
thing in your house. Feda wonders why a pattern 
should be put in a frame. But it has a frame, and the 
pattern seems to be in writing. The frame is narrow 
and has glass over it. There is a white margin, and a 
thin line round the edge. This writing is not ordinary, 
but scrollified, the letters are elaborate and look slightly 



66 


What Our Friends in the Next Life 

twisted. At the bottom, near the corner, is some 
different small writing. 

O.D.T.: Is my father interested in it ? 

Feda : Yes (emphatically) and you should be so, too. He 
is smiling as he says this; for he knows that you are 
interested, too. This writing has more sense in it, 
and means something different from ordinary framed 
things on walls. He says that you can always feel 
pleased at it. It was not a bought thing; it was 
handed to one like this. (Here the medium went 
through the action of a ceremonious presentation). 
It was not just passed casually, but presented. 

This description was more accurate than I could then 
have given from memory. Its only error related to the 
small writing at the bottom, which was said to be near the 
corner, whereas it is exactly central. Only when Feda said 
that " this pattern seemed to be in writing ” did I think 
of the illuminated address given to my paternal grand¬ 
father, and which had come into my possession eighteen 
months prior to this sitting. 

The following was prefaced by a description of my 
study, with special reference to the particular comer in 
which was hanging the picture now described. 

Feda said:— 

" You have a portrait there. A lady is shown 
three-quarter face. It was done many years ago. 
Her hair is done in a queer way, standing out towards 
the top back of the head, sticking out there and made 
to look as if there^were a^good deal of it. The bodice 
is dark and rather tight fitting . The face is nice, 
medium full, between rotind and oval; the nose rather 
straight, the chin found * yet not prominent, and 
slightly receding. Tfie brows are rather arched, and 
the eyes a little full. The face slopes down toward 
the chin, yet is rounded. Has she not one arm across 
the lower part of the' breast , with the wrist a little bent 
down? The head is slightly one side, giving a 



Know about Our Surroundings and Our Thoughts 67 

questioning look. Something on the frock looks like 
lines coming down from the shoulders and approaching 
from each side as they descend. There is a dark 
shadow behind the shoulders and neck, but not 
behind the head. Her hair is down a bit on one side 
as if she wished to show it off. 

A comparison of the above with the picture itself 
revealed its general accuracy. I have italicised the words 
which proved incorrect. My own effort would have fallen 
far short of this. 

**•••« • 

For purpose of a test I had alluded to my study in the 
following words, “ Upon the top of a bookcase there stands 
a bronze monkey/' When this had been dealt with, 
Feda remarked that Etta was showing her another monkey . 
I replied that I had no second monkey. Feda continued, 
“ She shows one to Feda and is sure she is right. You have 
it.” I replied that perhaps I could find one pictured in a 
book. But this suggestion was refused. Feda said, “ No, 
not in books; she means elsewhere. Had she meant 
books she would have said so.” 

On returning home I added the following note to the 
above record, “ I doubt if we have any picture of a monkey 
in the house.” Three days later there came suddenly and 
sharply into my mind the recollection of a very small 
monkey in stone which had been brought from India and 
given me by an old soldier. I knew it must be somewhere 
in the curio cabinet which stands close by the bronze 
monkey. On inspection, I discovered this stone monkey 
in the cabinet, and its position was only twenty inches from 
the one in bronze. 

And so my sister was right, although I had failed to 
discover that fact until the third day after the sitting. 

Let me here reply to a question in the reader's mind, 
—Could the medium have known of these articles ? The 
medium had not been to our house, and I am confident 
that no one there could or would have given her informa¬ 
tion. But I need not labour this point; for the argument 
I am presenting is so strong that it will stand without 



68 What Our Friends in the Next Life 

depending upon evidence relating to our home. If anyone 
thinks that trickery might have accounted for the instances 
given above, let him disregard these instances and consider 
only those to be recorded later. And similarly, to those 
who suggest telepathy from my mind, I would say, dis¬ 
regard all evidence which seems inconclusive and consider 
the following instances to which the telepathic hypothesis 
will not apply easily, if at all. Had these descriptions been 
limited to objects known to me I should have been com¬ 
pelled to consider, long and carefully, whether or not 
leakage from my unconscious mental activity had been 
caught and correctly interpreted by the medium. Evidence 
of such leakage would have been valuable; for if it could 
be shown that the human mind can thus unconsciously 
throw off information, and that another human mind can 
receive and interpret such “ broadcasting/' we should have 
a proof of telepathy which might go far to convince 
orthodox science of the reality of that much questioned 
hypothesis. For while, thanks to the laborious work of 
the founder of the Society for Psychical Research, telepathy 
is now popularly accepted as a fact in human nature, it is 
not as yet acknowledged by orthodox science which, on the 
contrary, either denies it or considers it unproven. 

But we need not, at this point, discuss the possibilities 
of leakage from my mind; because I am about to give 
instances of information which had not been within my 
knowledge. 

Such cases have been very numerous. Sometimes there 
were allusions to events in our house of which my wife was 
aware, then to matters about which neither of us had any 
knowledge whatever. And there have been several 
instances in which the matters related were known to the 
maids, although not to us. Here are two examples:— 

Feda once said, “ Your father mentions a ceiling in 
your house, as if some mark needed to be covered up.” 

As neither my wife nor I could understand the relevancy 
of this, the housemaid was asked. She replied that during 
our recent absence from home there had been an accident 



Know about Our Surroundings and Our Thoughts 69 

in an upstairs room, when a quantity of water had been 
spilled on the floor. This percolated through the boards 
and reached the ceiling of the room beneath which it 
marked conspicuously. After a few days the dampness 
disappeared, leaving so slight a stain that it was not 
discernible unless pointed out. On hearing this we pro¬ 
ceeded to inspect. The mark was fairly large, but would- 
not, I think, have been noticed in a casual glance, for the 
discolouration was of the slightest. Certainly it had not 
been observed by either of us, and would not, but for my 
father’s allusion, have been brought to our notice. 

During the autumn of 1921, our two servants, who are 
sisters, had their mother to stay with them. While at our 
house one of her friends brought her a fine pear. This was 
put away for safe keeping at the back of a cupboard. 
There it lay forgotten. It was near the end of November 
when, in cleaning out the cupboards, the pear was dis¬ 
covered in an advanced stage of decay. 

Of this trifling incident neither my wife nor I knew 
anything. But about two weeks later, namely, at my 
sitting on December 9th, the following remark was made 

" Ask Clara what has gone wrong in the cupboard ; 
we got an idea that something had not been keeping 
well. We heard of it lately.” 

This was a puzzle to me, and my wife could throw no 
light upon it. 

At the next sitting, December 20th, Feda said :— 

“ They think there is something in that remark 
about the cupboard. Has Clara solved the mystery 
yet ? ” 

I had to reply in the negative, but subsequently the 
above facts were ascertained after inquiry made in the 
kitchen. 

I took the first opportunity of reporting this to my 
communicators. But this was not the end. During the 



70 What Our Friends in the Next Life 

next sitting it was worked ingeniously into a Times test, 
thus:— 


“ In to-morrow’s Times , page one, column two and 
near the top, is a word—it is really a name but one 
which he is making into a word to describe the mystery 
of the cupboard.” 

This was given on January 20th, 1922, at 9.5 p.m. I 
sent a note of it to the Society for Psychical Research that 
evening. Next day I saw, at the top of column two of the 
Times , first page, the name Pearson. It will be noticed 
that the first four letters of this name form the precise 
word which was wanted. 

In the above we see trifles used for specific ends. I 
wanted no information about these trivialities, but I 
needed evidence that my father and sister were familiar 
with our home. And by such allusions they convinced 
me more quickly than had they confined attention to 
important matters within my knowledge. 

My father knows that a shallow criticism may object, 
“ It is strange that one who returns from heaven should 
pry into cupboards, etc.” He reasonably remarks that, 
in pursuit of his purpose, he utilises whatever may serve, 
not disdaining references to homely objects and unimportant 
events. Since his avowed object is to prove continued 
nearness and awareness, only those who fail to see the 
value of that proof will be offended by the means employed 
in achieving it. 

We now pass to a consideration of incidents relating to 
places at a distance. 

In 1917, while my mother was residing at Bournemouth, 
my wife and I had a sitting with Mrs. Leonard, during 
which my father urged me to advise my mother to take 
special care while going up or down stairs. He then 
added:— 

“ She had a near shave the other day. If she 
chooses to remember she nearly slipped a few days ago. 



Know about Our Surroundings and Our Thoughts 71 

She must be very careful. Although I should be very 
glad to have her with me, I do not wish her to have any 
accident/' 

Apart from my mother's age we had no reason to be 
nervous, but I wrote a guarded letter asking her to be 
careful, and adding that I had an impression that she had, 
only lately, narrowly escaped a fall. In her reply she 
confessed that she had fallen recently, through tripping 
over a wire mat at her greenhouse door. 

My mother returned to Ramsgate in 1919, and five years 
later my father gave the following description. Feda 
said:— 


“ There is a purse which he used and your mother 
has kept it. He shows it to Feda, it looks an old 
leather purse, a fairly large one; it is not square in 
shape; it comes out a little broader at the bottom. 
It has been kept and you can find out about it. It 
was much cleaner and better in colour one side than 
the other. It is very smooth, green leather of rather 
coarse grain, or else grained artificially to form a 
pattern. It was quite a good purse, except that just 
where one opens it the stitching, not the material 
itself, but the seaming, was coming undone for about 
half an inch. Etta has seen it too. Your father feels 
that this purse can be easily found, and he is quite 
sure that it is exactly as he says. Notice particularly 
the difference in colour between the two sides; it 
was all the same at one time/’ 

My mother said that she had no such purse. For my 
part, I was unable to recollect it. At my next sitting I said 
no purse could be found. On which my father repeated 
that he was quite sure about it, and that it could be found. 

I therefore wrote asking if a further search could be 
made, and this resulted in a find of two of my father's 
purses, one of which answers almost exactly to the above 
description. This purse is old and made of leather, rather 
large for a man's use, being 4 by 2J inches, and somewhat 



72 What Our Friends in the Next Life 

thick, owing to its having six compartments. The back 
is comparatively clean, while the front is rubbed and faded. 
It is made of smooth, green leather, the graining now 
scarcely perceptible, though the condition is still fairly 
good. Inside the flap are my father’s initials in his own 
writing. 

The reference to a broken seam is striking; for the 
covering flap has one side broken for about one quarter of 
an inch. 

Here we find seven statements, only the last of which 
is inaccurate. 

1. His purse has been kept and can be found. 

2. It is old, fairly large, not square. 

3. Very smooth, green leather. 

4. Coming undone for half or quarter inch just where the 

purse opens. 

5. Quite good, but for above defect. 

6. One colour, but one side better preserved. 

7. Either coarse grain or artificially grained to form 

pattern. 

Note that the words, “ Etta has seen it too/’ indicate 
that the description is not based solely upon earth memory, 
but is the result of recent observation by both my father 
and sister. 

Occasionally my maternal grandfather. will speak at 
these sittings about my mother. Looking through the 
records I notice that he once provided a particularly neat 
proof. It was prefaced by recollections of her love for 
music, and by the remark :— 

“ She has not all her music in the room where she 
plays. She was saying, very lately, that she must find 
the other music which she keeps in another room. 
He hopes she will get it out.” 

Most of her music was, at this time, stored away in 
another part of the house, and my mother had recently 



To face page 72 . 

This purse had belonged to my father, whose initials, J D. T , can 
be seen on the flap It was m the possession of my mother, who had 
forgotten its existence until making search for it at my request 

For an account of the way in which it was spoken of at one of my 
sittings, see page 71. 

The description given was surprisingly accurate Note especially 
the broken half-inch m the left side of the flap, which was indicated m 
the following words " It was quite a good purse, except that just where 
one opens it the stitching, not the material itself, but the seaming, was 
coming undone for about half an inch ” 











Know about Our Surroundings and Our Thoughts 73 

promised to look out some of her old favourites and play 
to me when next I came to see her. I now noticed that 
Feda several times repeated in whispers the words, “ Prince 
Albert/' She then said aloud 

“ He keeps repeating ' Prince Albert' and it seems 
to come out of this talk about music. Then he builds 
up, for Feda to see, a picture of Prince Albert which 
he says your mother has; but in some way this is 
connected with music, or there is music near it; for 
that picture and music seem to come to his mind 
together/' 

I was sceptical about this picture for I knew of no such 
thing in my mother's house. We visited there on the day 
following this sitting. To my surprise, on entering her 
drawing room, I saw, in a place of prominence close to the 
music cabinet and the piano , a copy of the celebrated en¬ 
graving which represents Queen Victoria and Prince Albert 
with their young children clustered around them. More¬ 
over, I learnt that this picture had been brought by a 
friend only the week before . Picture, music cabinet and 
piano stood in line close together. The claim of my grand¬ 
father that he had been to the house was thus substantiated. 
Mrs. Leonard was then living at Barnet and my mother at 
Ramsgate. 

The following references are selected from among a 
large number which related to my sister's house at Folke¬ 
stone at a period shortly before her passing. 

My father had alluded to the inspirational writing which 
my sister was at that time practising regularly. I was 
aware of the writing, but did not know in what part of her 
house it was done. 

Feda: When she writes has she often something red in 
front of her ? 

C.D.T.: I have no idea. 

Feda,: Good, then ask her. Also, is there a photograph 



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near in what is either a metal frame or one with a 
metal rim ? 

GDT.: Do you mean standing, or hung on a wall ? 

Feda: He thinks on the wall. Near her side something 
seems to be dangling, as if hanging down loose, much 
as a rope would do. 

G.D.T.: Can he be sure what that is ? 

Feda : He knew exactly before coming here. Also, he has 
the idea of a bell near her. 

CD.T.: A bell to take up and ring, or a push in the wall ? 
Feda : He thinks the latter. 

On my next visit Etta showed me her habitual position 
when sitting for inspirational writing. Always exactly in 
front of her was a little clock in bright red leather frame. 
Standing on a table at her left and close to her is a photo¬ 
graph of her daughter; it has a metal rim surrounding it. 
Immediately behind her head there hung from a shelf 
several inches of silk cord terminating in a tassel. In the 
wall to her right there was an electric bell. 

It was impossible to compare this comer of the room with 
the above description of my sister's surroundings when 
writing, without recognising that it came from one who 
had personally observed. My own mind, as already said, 
was not in possession of the information. 

After my sister's passing she became a constant speaker 
at my sittings, and frequently told me of incidents hap¬ 
pening in her home. From a considerable list of such I 
select two—one trivial, the other important. 

Speaking of her younger boy one day, Etta suddenly 
suggested that I should ask whether he had new handker¬ 
chiefs, as she thought she had noticed quite lately that he 
was using one which was not the usual white sort, but one 
with spots upon it. Replying to my inquiry about hand¬ 
kerchiefs, the boy wrote that he had lately procured a black 
silk handkerchief with white spots, for use when conjuring. 

Etta's husband, after having been unwell, had taken 
a holiday and we heard that he had returned feeling better. 
I was surprised, therefore, when Etta told me, through 



Know about Our Surroundings and Our Thoughts 75 

Feda, that he was again unwell, run down and over-strained; 
that he was taxing himself too much and that she was 
afraid he might have a break-down. His symptoms were 
then described with much detail. I delayed for two days 
before sending him a copy of Etta's remarks. Then I 
received a letter from him which had crossed mine in the 
post. It was written from bed and stated that he had 
been to a Harley Street specialist who found that he was 
suffering from nerve exhaustion and had ordered him to 
have a period of complete rest in bed, and then a quiet 
time in the country. It proved to be a serious nervous 
break-down. 

The above selections from hundreds of examples will 
show that information which was not within my own mind 
has been obtained by my communicators quite as easily 
as were facts with which I was familiar. 

In case any reader may still incline to think that telepathy 
from human minds may have been responsible for these 
results, I invite him to consider the newspaper tests 
described in another chapter of this book. 

Abundant evidence, extending over the eleven years of 
my investigation, has convinced me that friends who 
return to earth can observe my actions and also something 
of my surroundings. One cannot but wish to know more 
of the matter, to hear from them what the experience is 
like. For an account of it, given from their point of view, 
will enable one to glimpse for a moment somewhat of that 
life which will presently be our own, to realise in some 
degree the experience of making contact with earth by 
means of faculties attuned to another state of existence. 
From the accounts given me I select the following ;— 

Father: Objects on your plane are not so real to us as 
those where we dwell. To us they appear misty and 
cloudy. You have heard of the aura. We can see 
your aura when we cannot see you, and we can see it 
before we see you. 

At times I am only just able to see your chair, or 
perhaps a comer of something which I guess to be a 
table ; things sometimes are very vague to our sight. 

LJB.D. F 



76 What Our Friends in the Next Life 

O.D.T.: Am I seen more clearly than objects in the room? 
Father: Much more so. I think we often see the things 
around you through a power of your soul which 
illumines them. 

G.D.T.: Are you sure about that ? 

Father ; I think it is so, because there are others to whom 
we have gone and we found that we could not so 
easily see them. If it were our own power we should 
be able to exercise it whenever we like. I think this 
accounts for some people from our world being able to 
describe so little of what they have seen around a 
sitter at his home. There has not been the illuminating 
power around that person, and so his communicators 
could see but few things to describe when they came 
to a sitting. 

In speaking of newspaper tests my father remarked that 
one of his difficulties was a frequent inability to actually 
see them, and the consequent necessity of falling back upon 
sensing. He proceeded :— 

“ The difficulties are interesting. Your plane is not 
our plane. We are limited directly we try to touch 
and understand the merely material things of earth. 
If I know that you are sitting down I often may not 
know whether you are on a stool, chair or a sofa.” 

In the following Etta describes an attempt to make me 
think of her. 

“ You were in your study, standing near the table 
on which were several books. You were too interested 
in what you were doing to think of me. I stood near 
you by the comer of the table, but you did not feel 
me in the least. I wondered how it was that you did 
not feel my presence; I had forgotten that I was not 
trying. Then the guide who had come with me said, 
‘ Concentrate/ I calmed myself and tried for the 
time not to feel too loving, not to want to touch you, 
but to will that you should feel me. You did not at 



Know about Our Surroundings and Our Thoughts 77 

first; then you suddenly thought of me and forgot 
what you were doing; at least, you closed the book you 
had been looking at, placed it on the table, and sighed, 
thinking of me very strongly. You then turned round 
and faced me, but you did not see me and, of course, 
thought it quite natural that the thought of me should 
come in and interrupt what you were doing. I did 
not mind your not seeing me and had not expected 
you to do so. My studies of the subject on earth had 
helped me in understanding the difficulties. I felt 
rather glad that I had made you think of me suddenly.’' 

One of my sittings was near the third anniversary of 
Etta’s passing. The previous evening I spent a quiet hour 
in the garden thinking of her. Etta commenced her 
controlling by alluding to my walk in the garden, and 
introduced allusions to my actions and surroundings there 
which were perfectly accurate. Among other remarks, 
she said:— 

“You were looking at some small yellow flowers 
while you thought of me. You went back into the 
house for something and came out again. You knew 
that I was with you there last evening. Part of the 
time we were near a comer where something cast a 
shade on one side. I like that comer, it is so peaceful, 
and one seems more alone there. Father was with us 
also, but you felt it was more for me that you had 
gone out. You had thought of poetry earlier in the 
day, and I thought your quotation was appropriate to 
meeting me in the garden later. I have been so 
eager to tell you that I was there with you.” 

C.D.T .; I so wish I could have seen you, Dear, but it is 
something to be sure, without even seeing. 

Etta : To be sure with the mind and soul is the chief thing. 
Some whom you could touch are not so close to you 
in spirit; bodies may be present while thoughts are 
far away. 

Through Feda:— 

“ Etta finds that your father is right in thinking 



7 8 What Our Friends in the Next 12 }e 

that Clara 1 is a good subject; for they are able to get 
information easily in her vicinity. That is owing to 
some quality which Clara expels normally. Etta 
thinks that while many people have more of this than 
Clara has, yet they do not throw off so much of it. 
They would find it easier to obtain test information 
in Clara's vicinity than with others who threw off less 
of this peculiar emanation." 

At the Paris International Congress of Psychical Re¬ 
search in 1927, I read a paper dealing with the question 
of this semi-physical emanation. We are told that it is 
thrown off by mediums during the special conditions of a 
sitting, and that there is reason to believe that some 
persons normally throw off a limited amount. Traces of 
this emanation left in a room, or upon objects, enable 
visitants from the other world to see and hear more easily. 
As the foregoing quotations show, my father and sister are 
of the opinion that it is largely owing to the presence of 
this emanation that they have been able to observe so 
minutely those material objects which they have afterwards 
described to me through Mrs. Leonard. The inference 
seems sound that, if such observation depended solely 
upon a communicator's own unaided ability, he would be 
able to obtain such information where and when he chose. 
My experience indicates that this cannot be done at will; 
the evidence supports the assertion of my communicators 
that while it is comparatively easy to see in some places 
and with some people, it is difficult with others. In this 
connection one recalls that the word “ light" is applied by 
some communicators to their me dium. Do they speak thus 
because they find themselves clairvoyant for material 
objects while in the medium's vicinity ? 

I believe the following remark of my father's gives the 
key to many of the problems which relate to interaction 
between the two worlds: " When we do something on 
your plane, which is not our plane, we have to make use of 
that in you which corresponds most closely to our plane, 
but which is not ours." 


1 My wile’s name is Clara, 



Know about Our Surroundings and Our Thoughts 79 

Part 2. Concerning our Thoughts 

Throughout my sittings there has been frequent evidence 
that our thoughts are perceived by our unseen observers. 
This is a fact of much importance. For if our thoughts, plans 
and motives are open to their eyes, it follows that we have 
the power to gladden or sadden those whose love brings 
them back to watch us. But I shall touch on this again. 
For the moment we are to consider the evidence. 

Such evidence need not relate to matters important in 
themselves. A glimpse of straws on a river will show 
which way the current flows. The drifting leaves and 
branches seen by Columbus when on the point of turning 
back were trivial in themselves, but became of importance 
when he saw in them evidence upon which his decision to 
proceed might be logically based. Similarly, the incidents 
now to be recounted are redeemed from triviality because 
they offer evidence of a truth which it highly imports us 
to know. 

I commence with notes from a recent sitting in which 
my sister was controlling. She asked :— 

14 Do you remember thinking of me in the early 
part of yesterday ? ” 

Although this was probable, I could not at the moment 
recollect. When, however, I was typing notes of the sitting 
and reached this point, it occurred to me to look up my 
engagements of the day before. I then discovered that 
the morning had been occupied in preparing a speech, of 
which the leading idea was a remark about psychical 
research which Etta had made in a letter before the 
subject had gained her interest. It was to the effect that 
she had no wish to be “ a spiritual Columbus/' And I 
had thought of her change of mind, of her subsequent 
interest in this subject, and of her enthusiastic co-operation 
in my investigations, both before and after her passing. 

Etta next put a question which took me back to the 
previous sitting at which I had momentarily received an 



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What Our Friends in the Next Life 

emotional shock. I had not thought of it since, but Etta 
now inquired:— 

“ Do you remember in a past sitting, did you think 
father was going to say something to you about 
mother having passed over ? Father saw the thought 
in your head ; we read that thought in you; you did 
not speak of it. Father was so surprised. We were 
able to add things afterwards which cleared it up." 

My records of that sitting show that, while taking notes 
for the friend who shared it with me, I had suddenly heard 
Feda pronounce this sentence, quite unrelated to what had 
gone before, “ Sarah is passed over/' My father had 
habitually called my mother Sarah, and for an instant my 
mind leapt to the conclusion that he was now announcing 
the sudden passing of my mother. I undoubtedly experi¬ 
enced a wave of emotion which was only checked by 
noticing that Feda's next words precluded any reference to 
my mother. 

It will be seen that the foregoing extracts appear to be 
precisely what one might reasonably attribute to un¬ 
conscious telepathy from one’s own mind. I might have 
thought this myself were it not for long experience in 
receiving similar messages which were not capable of that 
explanation. Etta frequently tells me things which I do 
not know, and the remarks in question were such as she 
would quite naturally bring up in conversation with me. 
And so I see no cause for supposing that my own mind had 
any part in originating the above remarks. 

But I refrain from further instances of this character 
and proceed to recount allusions to thoughts of which I 
knew nothing and which had origin in the minds of other 
people. 

There was an occasion on which my wife had arranged 
to accompany me to an afternoon sitting after taking 
lunch with a friend. When the morning arrived she 
changed her plans and decided to spend the whole afternoon 
with her friend. Scarcely had my sitting commenced, 
when Feda asked :— 



Know about Our Surroundings and Our Thoughts 81 

“Where is Clara? Feda had an idea she was 
coming. Yon had the idea, not many days ago, that 
she would come with you. Your father says that you 
could not bring her to-day, but that just a few days 
back you thought that she would come to the sitting. 
And Feda got it from you, too. Feda got an idea that 
Clara would not come here straight with you, but that 
you would meet her. Feda does not know if you really 
thought that, but that was what Feda got/* 

The above exactly expressed our original plan. Possibly 
it looks like telepathy from me, but note what followed. 
The sitting proceeded for several minutes, and Feda then 
suddenly remarked :— 

“ Your father has a thought-current from Clara, 
Ask her if she has forgotten something she wished to 
take with her to-day? Ask her if she has changed her 
mind about something she is wearing and had intended 
to wear something different? He feels sure something 
of the kind has happened. He wonders if the two 
ideas are mixed up.” 

I break off to explain the apparent source of this idea. 
My wife told me, later, that on proceeding to her friend's 
house she discovered that her umbrella was left in the train, 
and that during the afternoon she frequently thought about 
it. She had no recollection of changing her mind about 
clothing, and it would seem that my father's suggestion 
that he had confused this idea was well grounded. 

To revert to the sitting: still speaking of Clara, Feda 
put the next statement in the interrogative form so fre¬ 
quently adopted in introducing a fresh topic. She asked :— 

“ Do you know if Clara and her friend are talking 
about someone being ill? Someone connected with 
where she is gone to-day ? Your father thinks that 
someone connected with that place is ill and that 
Clara will be talking about it.” 

C.D.T.: Has father become aware of that to-day ? 



82 What Our Friends in the Next Life 

Feia: Yes, a little while ago. This will be interesting as 
you can find out about it at once. 

I learnt afterwards from my wife that her friend, who 
had been seriously ill, had given a full history of the 
recent sickness. When I next sat with Mrs. Leonard my 
father inquired (through Etta who was then controlling), 
whether I had verified this conversation about illness. 
Etta then added :— 

“ We did not know who had been ill till we heard 
them talking. We could not explain at the time why 
or how we knew. Were they in the garden ? " 

G.D.T,: Yes, they had tea in the garden and sat there 
some time. 

Etta : I did not know about the tea, but sensed the garden 
most of the time. 

It is interesting to note that my wife, on reading the 
above, pointed out that I was in error when stating that 
they had taken tea in the garden. The tea was indoors, 
though they had spent most of the afternoon in the garden. 
Here, as often, my communicators hold to their own 
opinion and refuse to accept mine. And they were right. 

From my collection of records showing that my father 
and sister are frequently aware of my mother's thoughts 
and plans, even when these are unguessed by my wife or by 
me, I select the following :— 

Feia : Did your mother wish to give you something 
silver ? 

6 .D.T .; There is no reason for supposing it, so far as I am 
aware. 

Feia: Your father thinks it is something that has been in 
your mother's thought. She seemed to be thinking, 
“ I should like them to have this." It is something 
old, and she has had it a long time. Will you inquire 
about it ? 

My wife and I had that day returned from visiting my 



Know about Our Surroundings and Our Thoughts 83 

mother and could not think to what this might refer. 
I learnt later that my mother, shortly before this date, had 
decided to give me a set of silver spoons which had belonged 
to her mother and had been in the family eighty years. 
They were given me in due course. 

In the above instances we observe that the thoughts 
described in my sittings had originated elsewhere, in the 
mind of my mother, my wife, or other persons. But what 
remains to be decided is the identity of the person who 
acted as receiver. By whom were noticed these thoughts ? 
The list of possible receivers stands thus: medium, control, 
myself, friends in the unseen. Which of these first received 
that thought which was afterwards transmitted ? Who 
had the strongest mental link, and the greatest facility for 
mind-reading ? In my considered opinion it was my 
father and sister. If I am right, then we have in the 
above an illustration of that telepathy which is continually 
in action between us who remain on earth and our risen 
friends. We originate thoughts which they perceive. 

It will be asked, why, if our thoughts can be observed by 
those in the Beyond, cannot those same thoughts be 
perceived by people on earth ? I believe it is theoretic¬ 
ally possible for them to be so perceived, but does this 
actually happen ? How few indications of it come to our 
notice; how meagre is the experimental evidence for it. 
So meagre, indeed, is the evidence for telepathy between 
mind and mind on earth, that, as previously remarked, 
orthodox science does not yet accept it as proven. Person¬ 
ally, I accept it. The records of spontaneous telepathy, 
taken together with recorded experiments, and the un¬ 
published experiences of my personal friends, seem to me 
to place telepathy beyond all question as a fact of mundane 
experience. But how few persons succeed in receiving at 
will the broadcast thoughts of others 1 And how bare and 
fragmentary at best are the ideas thus received ! I fnrUnA 
to think that a faculty for telepathic reception lies dormant 
in each one of us, but that few succeed in awakening that 
faculty to action. Daily we broadcast our thought, but 
those able to consciously receive and translate it are few 
on earth, although many in heaven. 



84 What Our Friends in the Next Life 

Certainly, it would be theoretically possible that the 
above instances, in which I was correctly informed of 
thoughts which had been recently in the mind of my friends, 
might have been obtained telepathically from them by the 
medium herself. But I have not found, although carefully 
watching for it, any cause for thinking that this has hap¬ 
pened. It seems to me that here, as in those cases where 
telepathy from human minds was clearly impossible, the 
mental broadcasting was received and interpreted by 
friends in the unseen. 

This will be a suitable point at which to introduce some 
of my father's remarks on the subject. 

At a sitting some time before my sister's passing I asked 
whether my father would be able to visit Etta and see 
what she was doing at the moment. He replied :— 

“Yes, I could do so, although there might be 
difficulty in telling you here, in getting it through 
afterwards. I could get her thoughts more easily 
than her actions." 

Then, touching on communion of soul, and contrasting it 
with verbal communication through mediums, he added :— 

“ Pure communion is that sort which you and I 
have in your study. This at sittings is helpful, indeed 
necessary; but, after all, it is imperfect, mechanical, 
almost artificial, although satisfactory beyond words 
and very necessary as a means of independent con¬ 
firmation." 

In the early days of my Leonard sittings I wished to be 
sure that I had rightly grasped the meaning of my father's 
remarks and therefore asked, “ Is it right to say that our 
departed friends can often see us and be conscious of our 
thoughts and of what we are doing ? Here, in substance, 
is his reply:— 

“ Yes, if you say often, and do not give the idea that 
we are always present. I realise your moral and 



Know about Our Surroundings and Our Thoughts 85 

spiritual actions, and should be aware, for instance, 
if you did anything very wrong. I should be conscious 
of it even without coming to see.” 

When controlling he once remarked :— 

“ I can sometimes be with you in effect while a very 
long distance away. Though I were thousands of 
miles away I could get your thought if you were in 
need of help and thought of me. And I could send a 
helpful thought in response as easily as if standing by 
your side at the moment. I might not get your 
thought word for word, and yet I should get the 
thought correctly. It would be your subconscious 
mind that called; for the subconscious anticipates 
the conscious. The subconscious is aware first, and 
telegraphs to the conscious, and it might at the same 
time telegraph to me. There have been occasions 
when persons felt themselves guided in moments of 
danger, and it has been concluded that therefore some 
angelic presence was with them at the time. I do not 
think it necessary. There is no such thing as distance 
where thought is concerned. A guardian spirit is 
near in thought. It would be absurd to say that he 
is in constant attendance and always near any one 
person on earth. One guardian may have several on 
earth to protect.” 

I here quote from my sister. 

During her communication a few months after passing, 
I inquired whether she experienced the same sense of loss 
and separation that we were feeling. She replied :— 

" No, no, we only feel as you may picture anyone 
feeling who had to go and live in a different house 
from the people they cared for, yet could see them and 
know all that happened to them, although not able to 
live in the house with them.” 

I said, “ Then you have no sense of bereavement ? ” 

To which she answered :— 



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“ No, Dear. You see I know that you are coming, 
too. It is only a case of waiting such a little time. 
Looking back now, it seems altogether so short a time 
we are on earth.” 

On another occasion, while we were comparing the 
respective advantages of wordless communion at home and 
verbal intercourse through a medium, Etta remarked :— 

“ I think that you get nearer to the real me at 
home.” 

Once, while controlling, she said:— 

“ You know, Drayton, I can see you more clearly 
than when I was on earth ; and I am more conscious 
that this knowledge has made you happier. I seem 
to see you more truly from this side than I did on 
earth, where we see only one side at a time. I now 
see you as a whole. We know those we love so much 
more and better than we did on earth.” 

I now come to a definite and conclusive proof that my 
father and sister are aware of thoughts which I address to 
them mentally. 

A cousin in Canada wrote in great sorrow about the 
passing of his little son. In the privacy of my study 
I asked my father and sister to find the child and obtain 
from him a message for his parents, together with sufficient 
evidential detail to satisfy them of his identity. I added 
that he would probably be with his grandfather, my 
uncle Fred. At my sitting a few days later they told me 
they had been talking with Fred; and then, as I had 
expected, came what I wanted. They described incidents 
connected with the child's passing, some dozen facts in all, 
and these were afterwards verified by the child's father. 
Also, at subsequent sittings, further messages and 
evidences were given for the parents, the evidential 
items eventually numbering more than fifty, not one of 
which had been known to me, or to the medium. 



Know about Our Surroundings and Our Thoughts 87 

But on this I do not dwell, since our present interest is 
with the first sitting, which proved that my request had 
been understood. The proof that my private appeal had 
reached my communicators is found in the fact that they 
came to the next sitting fully prepared with the information 
for which I had asked , information, be it noted, of which I 
had no knowledge, and which subsequently was proved to 
have been correct. 

Let me now add a second case where, in like manner, 
my intentions were perceived, and accurate information 
unknown to me was obtained elsewhere. 

(Pseudonyms are used in this instance). 

My parents and sister had known intimately a Mrs. 
Sands. When she passed over I received a letter from 
her daughter May, whom I had not seen for thirty years. 
In that letter she inquired as to the possibility of obtaining 
some message from her mother. I mentally decided to 
invite May to a sitting with Mrs. Leonard. 

The date for which I proposed to arrange it was still 
some weeks distant, when the following was given through 
Feda:— 

“ Mrs. Sands has been to see May. You are bringing 
her. Her mother wants to speak to her.” 

G.D.T. : I will see what I can do. 

Feda: She seemed to get it from you. Etta is smiling 
and says, “ Of course, he will. He says that in a non¬ 
committal way.” Etta and your father are laughing. 
They feel that May would be happier for getting into 
touch with her mother in this way. In a sense she 
is “ alone,” rather than " lonely.” Feda wonders 
what the difference is. Yes, they say that May has to 
think for herself and for others too, and is a good deal 
thrown back upon herself. 

Do you know if she has glasses, or has been anxious 
about her eyes ? Her mother says that May has been 
thinking about eyes just lately. Etta says that May 
is not really very strong; she keeps up the appearance 
of health, but is not robust, soon gets tired and does 
not really feel at all as she ought to. 



88 What Our Friends in the Next Life 

When I subsequently met Miss Sands I found that the 
above correctly described her condition. She used glasses, 
and had recently been thinking of getting others. At the 
date of the above sitting, which was in the Christmas 
holidays, she had been speaking frequently about eyes and 
spectacles, and advising her hostess to visit an oculist 
Being the head-mistress of a large school, Miss Sands cer¬ 
tainly had to think for others. All the above statements 
proved to be minutely correct, and I had known nothing 
about these particulars. 

My studies have convinced me that those whom death 
removes can, if they so wish, keep themselves conversant 
with our life and surroundings. They can know what 
occurs in our home and in our minds. But between our 
outward and our inward life there is a clear-cut distinction 
of which they seem even more acutely aware than are we. 
Among those who pass from earth comparatively few feel 
the necessity for a minute observation of the material 
objects which surround their earthly friends. Here and 
there are a few who deem it their special work to do this 
for the purpose of giving evidence to those with whom 
they are in communication. But this is no more necessary 
for the majority there, than is a proficiency in, say, astro¬ 
nomical photography for the majority of people here. 
Most of those who visit earth can see to some extent, and 
many of them are able to see a good deal; but much 
depends upon individual differences, and upon conditions 
of which we as yet know almost nothing. 

It is the experience of my father and sister—and they 
think it is the common experience of those who leave 
earth—that they ascertain most easily that kind of infor¬ 
mation about their loved ones which is of permanent, 
rather than transitory, importance. They know more 
about our character than about our clothing. It is so 
easy for them to know about our inner life that they can 
even learn it from afar without needing to come to us. 
But if they wish to observe our material surroundings 
minutely it may be necessary for them to exercise a special 
mode of vision, a kind of clairvoyance, and for some of them 
this is difficult. 



Know about Our Surroundings and Our Thoughts 89 

I have allotted a chapter to this subject because of its 
practical importance. Is there not widespread uncertainty 
among people as to whether or not their departed friends 
know how it fares with them ? I suspect that many doubt; 
I know that some deny. Then, too, do not some express 
the hope that those in heaven are denied the knowledge of 
what transpires on earth ; that the mother is unaware of 
her son's wild living, that the father cannot see his 
daughter's struggle for bread ? One may sympathise 
with the feeling which prompts that hope, without sharing 
the belief that parents are so changed by transition to 
another phase of life that they would prefer to be without 
tidings of children left behind. Uncertainty about the 
welfare of those whom we love is not usually preferable to 
knowledge. Do we not long for news of our sick child, 
the one travelling abroad, the hard-pressed and unhappy 
one ? Why should it be supposed that death lessens our 
divinest instincts ? The truth is far otherwise. Our 
natural preferences persist when we awake from death. 
The facts available leave me in no doubt that those 
we loved and lost have not lost us; they watch 
over us, they love us, they await the hour of our 
coming. 

But, it may be asked, does not this intimate knowledge 
lessen the happiness of those who dwell in the realms of 
light? That must depend somewhat on what they see 
within us. To notice our degeneration must sadden them, 
as surely as our progress in character must give joy. It may 
well be that their scale of values is truer than ours; that 
careless ease and prosperous enjoyment are seen to have 
but a passing importance; while our growth in sympathy, 
in fortitude, in likeness to Our Lord is recognised as a 
permanent enrichment and our true preparation for the 
greater life awaiting us beyond. 

The truth to which the facts of this chapter point would, 
if recognised, dissuade the bereaved from yielding to a 
desolating sense of loss and separation. It would bring a 
new and heartening aspect to the " dark shadow of 
death," enabling us to see " the bright light which is in the 
cloud." Yet not only as a means to comfort is this truth 



90 What Our Friends in the Next Life Know 

being given. To face the truth is right and wise whether 
it brings comfort or suffering. 

If we are causing a shadow to fall across the etherial 
landscape it is well that we should be aware of this. And 
if we know that heaven is brighter because some we love 
see that all is right with us, then that too is well. 

Know we not our dead are looking 
Downward with a sad surprise, 

All our strife of words rebuking 
With their mild and loving eyes ? 

Shall we grieve the holy angels ? 

Shall we cloud their blessed skies ? 

Whittier. 



CHAPTER IX 


FURTHER EVIDENCE THAT THE DEPARTED CAN KEEP IN 
TOUCH WITH EARTH 

The previous chapter showed that departed friends can 
observe our thoughts. We are now to consider a class of 
incident pointing to an extension of this faculty. 

During a period when I was working at the Leysian 
Mission, my father while controlling suddenly said :— 

“ Rickett ... do you know such a name at the 
Mission ? ” 

As this name was pronounced almost exactly like that 
of Mr. Ricketts, the chairman of the Mission Men's Club, 
I replied that I knew the name. My father proceeded :— 

“ Did you know that someone connected with his 
family passed over quite recently ? ” 

Now, on casting my mind back I found only one relevant 
fact about Mr. Ricketts, namely, that I had visited an aunt 
of his in hospital and that she had died. So I replied that 
Ricketts had lost an aunt several years back. My father 
then said:— 

“ You met him at the Mission about three weeks ago. 
I like him ; he is one who puts his whole heart into 
his work. I should much like to know if they lost 
someone quite recently, say within two years, but not 
the aunt. I may have caught his subconscious 
thought/' 

Here was an experimenter who concluded that he had 
obtained certain facts in a certain way, and who wished to 
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92 Further Evidence that the Departed 

learn how far he had been successful. I made a point of 
interviewing Mr. Ricketts that evening and learnt from 
him that his brother-in-law, who had resided with them 
for the last twenty years and was greatly beloved by all 
the family, had died exactly two years before and was still 
greatly missed by them. 

I here set down the above statements as given at the 
sitting, together with the facts which verified them. 

1. You met Mm there about three weeks ago. On referring 
to my pocket-book I discovered that my last meeting with 
Mr. Ricketts had been in the crush hall of the Mission 
exactly three weeks and two days before the date of this 
sitting. 

2. He is one who puts his whole heart into his work . This 
is so. 

3. Someone lost recently , not the aunt , say within two years. 
This is correct, and the date is right, the family loss having 
been exactly twenty-four months before. It will naturally 
be asked if I had not been aware of this bereavement. 
I had not, and the reason chiefly lay in the fact that the 
brother-in-law did not attend our Mission, but was engaged 
in Christian work in another part of London ; moreover, 
I had never been to Mr. Ricketts' home. 

4. I may have caught his subconscious thought. When, 
during the next sitting, I explained the accuracy of these 
statements, my father said :— 

“ I got the information from his subconscious self. 
I have tried this before, as you may remember. When¬ 
ever I say that I got so-and-so from anyone, you may 
take it that I get it in this way." 

There had been previous instances of a similar kind in 
which some of the statements made were within my know¬ 
ledge, while others were not. 

Here I make a digression by adding remarks which my 
father appended to the above. 

“ You may wonder, what about private thoughts ? 
If I can get this from your friend's subconscious mind. 



Can Keep in Touch with Earth 93 

are we able to keep anything to ourselves in our own 
realms ? While in the body one has not control over 
the subconscious mind, but when one lives in the 
psychic body, as we do, it is possible to shut off the 
mind completely from others, if one chooses/' 

C.D.T.: But you have given me to understand that in 
your spheres a man's aura indicates to others his 
general character. 

Father: Exactly, there are no hypocrites there; it is no 
avail pretending to be what you are not. Yet, if 
meeting anyone to whom we feel disinclined to speak, 
that disinclination shows itself ; and the other person 
would not then wish to speak until conditions were 
ripe for it. We signal by thought, and, if one calls 
us, it is easy to signal back our good wishes and to 
say “ Engaged just now.” No one will simulate 
pleasure at seeing one who interferes with his work. 

G.D.T.: That is often done on earth ; it seems only polite, 
and kindness almost demands it. 

Father: Yes, for your subliminal mind cannot give the 
true reason to them, and so you play down to the 
conscious mind. There is a great deal in recognising 
the limits of another's conscious mind on earth. But 
where we live there is only truth; nothing can be 
uttered or thought which is not true and good. 

G.D.T.: Is that because no one would reach your particu¬ 
lar sphere while they could wish to play false ? 

Father: Yes, exactly so. On the lower spheres they try 
it, but even there it is seen through. One who arrives 
there may not at first realise that his thought is 
known, but he soon notices that his duplicity avails 
him nothing, and he soon ceases to trouble to act in 
that way. ^ While on earth that kind of thing often 
procures him what he seeks, and so he may make 
duplicity a habit. It is the worse for him if duplicity 
is allowed to " pay him.” It would be far better were 
he sharply pulled up when first he tried it, and made 
to see that it availed him nothing. The sensitiveness 
of good people often keeps them from doing this 
service. I notice it in youths arriving over here; it 



94 Further Evidence that the Departed 

would have been better if the truth had been shown 
them at first, so that they would have seen earlier that 
falsehood avails nothing in the end. We must be 
simple and truthful and leave the byeways alone. 

To revert again to my father’s remark that he obtained 
information from Ricketts’ subconscious mind; this 
process is possibly analogous to that employed in psycho- 
metry. Psychometry has been defined as 4 4 The faculty of 
reading the characters, surroundings, etc., of persons by 
holding in the hand objects which they have had in their 
possession.” The fact is common enough and any who care 
to experiment with those possessing this faculty can prove it 
for themselves. Nothing is known of the process involved; 
there are hypotheses, but as yet no knowledge. Without 
attempting to explain anything, I suggest that if my father, 
standing invisibly by my side while I converse with a 
friend, obtains information from the subconscious mind ol 
that person, it is permissible to conclude that the process 
may be the same in essence as psychometry. In the latter 
case our hand touches an object associated with some 
person ; in the former case my father gets into touch with 
the person concerned, dispensing with an intermediate 
object. In short, if objects can be psychometrised, so can 
persons. And just as a psychometrist will improve in 
accuracy with practice, so has my father become increas¬ 
ingly successful in obtaining information from persons in my 
vicinity. Needless to say, this faculty has on no occasion 
been used improperly; no secrets have been revealed to me 
which it was in the interest of anyone to keep private. I do 
not say that my father could not obtain such information, 
but I am confident that he would not do so; such action 
would be as distasteful to him as to myself. But although 
ugly secrets are not given away by our unseen observers, 
they are noticed! Among the “ cloud of witnesses ” there 
are those who can be pained or gladdened, according to the 
nature of those thoughts which we deem hidden. 

If our risen friends can read our thoughts, can they do 
more, can they ascertain what other people are thinking 
about us ? My father has occasionally named matters 



Can Keep in Touch with Earth 95 

which, as he said, had come to his cognisance while he was 
near me. He appears to have somehow become aware of 
thoughts relating to myself which had arisen in the minds 
of others, and of which I knew nothing. My father's rather 
quaint explanation is that he “ found them sticking in my 
aura." Do such thoughts actually travel, possibly in some 
way analagous to that by which broadcast speech reaches 
our homes ? If this be so, it may be proved some day. 
It would be an interesting discovery. 

Now, since I had not, in any such instances, been per¬ 
sonally aware of the thoughts which my father had thus 
observed with me, it will be asked, how then do you know 
that there was substance of fact in your father's assertions ? 
I only know that what he told me was in agreement with 
what came to pass immediately afterwards. For example, 
one day he said that I was about to receive an invitation to 
speak in Liverpool. I had no reason to suppose this was 
so, yet I received a letter from that place, written just 
before the date of the sitting in which it was foretold. 
On another occasion he said that I should have a letter 
from my publisher; I had no reason whatever for expecting 
one, but the letter arrived next day. 

Now, I have frequently heard people, who made no 
claim to psychic faculties, recount instances in which they 
dreamt of having a letter from a certain person, and then 
actually received it by the morning's post. Others tell me 
that, on hearing the postman's knock, they have suddenly 
thought of a friend from whom they had not heard for 
many months, and among the letters delivered by that 
postman was one from the friend in question. These 
happenings seem too definite to be explained by chance 
coincidence. The psychic fact which accounts for them, 
whatever it may be, is probably similar to that which is in 
play when my father reads thoughts which he finds in my 
aura. Usually we are unconscious of thoughts directed to 
us by others at a distance, and yet, as I consider proved by 
experiments in telepathy, those thoughts reach us. The 
analogy of wireless is suggestive; broadcasting causes 
action in the ether around of which we are unconscious. 
But when a suitable receiving instrument is brought intQ 



96 Further Evidence that the Departed 

the room, those unperceived etheric vibrations are inter- 
preted for us. Similarly, as it seems, my father can 
interpret a thought which is active in my vicinity 

Subjoined is a dated series of references to this question. 
It shows how, as time passed, my father and sister gained 
further understanding of this subtle process which, as they 
consider, enables them to ascertain ideas which have been, 
so to speak, picked up by my subconscious mind, without 
reaching my consciousness. 

December , 1919. Through Feda. 

“ Sometimes your father gets the thoughts which 
are directed to you by people, even people unknown 
to you, who may have heard you speak or read your 
writings. When with you he can feel their thought 
directed to you, and can tell if the sender be man or 
woman, young or elderly.” 

Feda, then, on her own account, suggested that to do 
this my father must have gained an unusual proficiency, 
and one not possessed by the majority of communicators. 

January , 1920. Father controlling. 

" When with you I often get thoughts which people 
send out towards you. Those thoughts stick in your 
aura and I read them from it.” 

I suggested that this seemed to be psychometry. 

“ Yes, for when those thoughts are in your aura, 
I can become conscious of them and can disentangle 
them.” 

February , 1921. My father, speaking through Feda, 
explained that it was difficult to be a transmitter and a 
receiver at one and the same time. That if he wished to 
impress my mind at home, or to communicate with me at 
a sitting, he carefully refrained from “ getting into my 
condition ” sufficiently to be aware of my thoughts, or of 



Can Keep in Touch with Earth 97 

thought which might be directed to me. He thus avoided 
mental distractions. 

October , 1924. It was explained, through Feda, that my 
father had discovere 1 that he could now detect in my mind, 
not only thoughts sent by others, but also ideas which I 
had myself acquired without having been conscious of 
them. Supposing I walked along a street and passed the 
place for which I was bound without realising that I had 
done so, this would be an instance of seeing without noticing 
consciously; and that, similarly, my mind could sub¬ 
consciously notice ideas of which I was not consciously 
aware. It was these subconsciously acquired ideas which 
he was now able to interpret when finding them within me. 
He added that should I miss some point in a speech to which 
I was listening, he might be able to get that point from me 
quite clearly. 

February , 1925. Through Feda. 

“ Many thoughts are sent to you daily, from friends 
and from those who have heard you speak; during 
the day many will at some time or other think of you. 
Yet out of all those thoughts how very little reaches 
your consciousness. I have occasionally succeeded in 
picking up some definite thought which I found 
directed to you, and of this I have sometimes given 
proof. But I rather incline to think that this may be 
owing to my having identified myself with your 
activities over so long a period. When I come to you 
I can sense some of those thoughts occasionally, if 
not' often/' 

March , 1925. At this period I had been thinking much 
about a semi-physical emanation which was said to sensitise 
the medium's brain, and in other ways facilitate a com¬ 
municator's intercourse with Feda. And I asked my 
father, during his control, whether he considered that one's 
aura, in a similar way, helped him to interpret thoughts 
which had been sent towards one by other people. He 
replied:— 



98 Further Evidence that the Departed 

“ Yes, your aura sensitises thoughts directed to you. 
To use a photographic analogy, it is like a plate 
sensitised to receive impressions and thoughts. You 
may not notice those impressions because you do not 
* develop ' them, although I may succeed in doing so/' 

April, 1925. Feda said that my father now realised 
that the thoughts from other people which he noticed in 
my aura had often arrived some time before. 

May , 1925. Etta controlling. 

6 .D.T .: There have been instances of your catching a 
thought which has been directed to me by a distant 
person and of which I was entirely unconscious. 
How do you do it? Father once described such 
thoughts as “ sticking in my aura/* Can you explain 
more explicitly ? 

Etta: That phrase was not a good description. We 
psychometrise the thoughts in your aura, just as a 
medium can psychometrise a ring. You may notice 
when a medium does that, the fact obtained is not 
always an important one. It is a little like fishing; 
say that I put my net into your aura, and, finding a 
fish within it, bring up that fish ; for if there is one 
fish in the net there may be others which I had not 
noticed. We take the small fact since a larger fact 
may be linked to it. We work by the law of associa¬ 
tion/' 

O.D.T.; It seems curious that you should be able to 
obtain ideas from my mind which I have not noticed 
there. 

Etta: Ideas need to be watched for. They may have 
arrived like letters which remain unopened. If one 
watches for the postman's coming it is less likely that 
letters will be left unread. 

These quotations will have served a purpose if they help 
us to realise that there exists in thought a greater power 
than is commonly supposed. We admittedly influence 



Can Keep in Touch with Earth 99 

each other by thought which we express in words, or which 
we translate into action. We can easily notice how our 
own thoughts, be they wise or unwise, influence our moods, 
our outlook on life, and even health. But it may be 
possible also that our unspoken thought reaches the 
person to whom it is directed, and that it may help or 
hinder him through the action of his subconscious mind, 
although never revealed to his consciousness. 

The following account indicates that my sister succeeded 
in correctly interpreting a thought which had been directed 
to my mother in Ramsgate by a friend at Harrogate, a 
distance of two hundred miles. 

At a sitting on December 22nd, 1922, Etta asked 
whether mother had received a gift of a bag. 

I replied that I would inquire. Feda then continued :— 

“ Etta keeps getting an impression of a soft silk bag, 
and feels that it is not all one colour. She has a very 
strong impression that it was studded or dotted in 
design, probably part of it so dotted. Etta likes to 
give her mother evidence of what she sees, as well as 
telling how much she is with her.*' 

This seemed a sufficiently definite statement. A silk bag 
of unique design has been, or is to be, given to my mother 
as a present. 

At the next sitting, January 5th, 1923 ,1 announced that 
no such bag had appeared. Feda replied :— 

“ Etta’s idea was that it would be a Christmas gift 
to her mother. It may have been delayed. For she 
still gets that idea, and feels that mother will have that 
bag.” 

This confidence should be noted. I next visited my 
mother on February 4th, when she showed me a gift from 
Mrs. Whitehead, a friend then visiting her. I noticed that 
it was a silk bag which answered to the description given 
by Etta before Christmas. Refraining from any mention 
of this, I casually asked several questions which elicited the 



ioo Further Evidence that the Departed 

following information. Mrs. Whitehead had made the bag 
at Harrogate during the previous November. She had at 
first intended to give it at Christmas, but later decided to 
keep it for mdther's birthday on January 27th. 

I then told her of my sister's remarks and pointed out 
how perfectly the present of this bag fulfilled the forecast 
made on December 22nd. 

Let us compare it with the description given above. 

Soft silk bag . The bag is made of exceedingly soft silky 
materials. 

Not all one colour . The pocket of the bag is orange, its 
outer cover is black. 

Studded or dotted in design . The outer cover is a net¬ 
work of black cord in knotted design and very open. 
This knotting of the cord makes an effect not inaptly 
described by the words “ dotted or studded," the 
dotted pattern being conspicuous upon the orange 
background. 

Probably part of it so dotted. The dotted portion is over 
only part of the bag. 

How shall we explain (a) the accurate description of 
this bag at my sitting while it was two hundred miles away 
at Harrogate? (b) The statement that the bag was 
coming to my mother, and the assumption that it would 
arrive for Christmas, when it had actually been intended 
for a Christmas present? (c) My sister's impression on 
January 5th that the bag would yet reach my mother; 
Mrs. Whitehead having meantime decided to present it on 
January 27th ? 

Two years afterwards, when inquiring how certain 
results were achieved by my communicators, it occurred to 
me that I ought to ask how this forecast of the present had 
been made possible. My question was put to Etta during 
her controlling, and elicited the following reply :— 

“I am not sure now, as it is long ago and I have 
done so much since. But if it was done in our usual 
way, the thought must have been picked up with 
mother. Supposing the thought had reached mother, 
it would be there in her aura, as father has told you 




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A work-bag of orange silk, the outer cover being black. It was 
described as .— 

“ A soft silk bag, not all one colour, studded or dotted in design 
probably part of it so dotted ” 

The remarkable circumstances connected with its mention at i 


IOI 


Can Keep in Touch with Earth 

previously. I should fish it out, perhaps the day 
following. Some people cannot retain a thought in 
their aura for long, others can. We get things more 
easily from some than from others.” 

C.D.T .: Do you obtain the information from the aura by 
sight, sound or sensing ? 

Etta : By sensing the aura when coming close to it. It is 
peculiar, but I know many on our side who cannot 
understand what we mean by that. For when they 
come to earth they are unable to sense things in that 
way. I think father and I have trained ourselves to 
interpret; there is a sense in which you might consider 
us mediumistic. 

If this explanation correctly represents what took place 
when the coming of the silk bag was foretold, it would seem 
that Etta had no need to follow up the stream of thought 
and visit Harrogate. It was sufficient for her purpose to 
visualise that which she sensed in her mother's vicinity 
when, or immediately after, Mrs. Whitehead had been 
strongly thinking of the gift. 

It should be added that Mrs. Whitehead had never seen 
Mrs. Leonard and had not mentioned this bag to my wife 
or to any member of our family circle; also, that we had 
not seen her for a year. 

The foregoing instances have dealt with thoughts. The 
two following refer to those unseen presences which may 
often be with us while we are unconscious of their nearness. 

It was once inquired, through Feda :— 

“Have you been talking to some Americans? 
Your father was interested because he saw a very 
beautiful spirit with them. He did not know if she 
were a relation, or a guide, but she was like an angel- 
girl hovering about, very happy and bright. There 
was also an older spirit-lady with her, and he gathered 
that they had both passed fairly recently.” 

Now, the only Americans with whom I had spoken for a 
year or more were a man and his wife whom I had 



102 Further Evidence that the Departed 

accidentally met at the house of a friend. He had been 
introduced to them at a dinner the previous evening and 
asked them to call. He knew their name, but little more, 
not even their home address. Fortunately I gave them 
my card, and the next Christmas brought their season's 
greeting. This enabled me to send the above extract. 
The following was the reply: “ What you write is most 
interesting; for every time I have been to a medium the 
beautiful young spirit spoken of by your father is always 
with me. My mother, whom I adored and do still, left me 
two years ago.” 

Another incident, similar in character, happened after 
a visit to Manchester. While there I spent an hour at 
the house of a psychic student. At the next sitting my 
father, speaking through Feda, referred to several things 
I had done while in Manchester, but the remarks which 
most interested me were those touching on matters of 
which I had no knowledge. Some of these related to the 
above mentioned call; he said :— 

" There was a spirit-boy with them in that house, 
one whom I had not previously seen, a nice lad who 
seemed very much at home there. I gathered that he 
belonged to them. Do you know who Tom would be, 
someone connected with them ? I kept feeling that 
name while there.” 

I break off here to say that on sending a copy of the 
above I received a reply of which the following is part: 
“ I have no hesitation in saying that I know exactly who is 
referred to. Tom was an adopted brother of mine and was 
brought up with me in my home. Before my marriage 
Tom went to lodge with my mother-in-law; therefore he 
was also closely connected with my wife and mother-in-law 
through living in their house for two years. The descrip¬ 
tion, " a nice lad,” fits him exactly. He died of con¬ 
sumption at the age of twenty-four, and we con¬ 
tinually, and almost weekly, receive communications from 
him.” 

The sitting continued:— 



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“ I had a peculiar feeling, while there with you, 
that those people had been worried, troubled, very 
recently, over something of quite a material nature, 
and that they had been undecided about it. I thought 
it was not altogether settled when you were there, but 
I did not hear them allude to it, so it may be some 
private matter. I am sure I am right about it, and 
that this was not an ordinary thing, but something 
which had much occupied their minds/' 


I quote again from the above letter : “ This is perfectly 
true . . . legal complications did cause us anxiety. It is 
also true that the matter was not settled at the time you 
were with us, but it has since been satisfactorily settled." 
The letter gave further particulars of the law case involving 
a branch of the family residing at a distance from Man¬ 
chester. 

Of ten statements relating to this house, five were within 
my knowledge at the time of the sitting, the other five 
were totally unknown. All ten were correct in every 
particular. 

From time to time my friends give evidence that they 
possess information obtained, not from minds on earth, 
but from those with whom they converse in the realms 
beyond death. 

I select as examples the three following. 

Feda, while transmitting for my father, asked :— 


“ Who is Salisbury ? Do you remember one with 
a name like that ? He has passed over and your 
father has seen him on the other side. This Salisbury 
asked to be remembered to your mother when he 
heard that your father communicated. Your father 
says that this Salisbury didn't believe in communica¬ 
tion, and thinks it next to impossible, even now he is 
there. So your father promised to name him at this 
sitting. Was Salisbury very fond of books and 
papers ? Your father says he showed some old 
magazines, or something of that kind." 



104 Further Evidence that the Departed 

I was aware that a gentleman of this name had recently 
died, and that my mother had known him slightly. But 
as I did not know any of the family it seemed unlikely that 
I should be able to verify the clue that he had been fond of 
books and papers, or that old magazines had any relevancy. 
Indeed, these clues seemed surprisingly trivial, and almost 
too general in character to have evidential value. It so 
happened that two months later I had the opportunity of 
attending a lecture at the house of Mr. Salisbury's son. 
Before leaving I alluded to the deceased and remarked that 
I had heard of his interest in some kind of book-collecting. 
Mr. Salisbury replied, “Yes, my father was a collector of 
magazines " ; and leading me to a bookcase containing a 
number of substantial volumes in identical bindings, he 
explained that these consisted of sermons and magazines 4 
which his father had collected and bound together. Here 
was unexpected corroboration of the remark made at my 
sitting that Mr. Salisbury had been “ very fond of books 
and papers—old magazines or something of that kind." 

A man who had recently lost his wife and was in deep 
sorrow, accompanied me to a sitting with Mrs. Leonard. 
He received evidences of her identity, as well as of con¬ 
tinued love and interest. During the next sitting, at 
which I was alone, Feda transmitted the following 
message:— 

“ Your father says he has seen the young lady who 
came here last time. She told him that, quite lately, 
there had been a sort of medallion found ; it is a little 
oval picture, not for a wall, but an ornament. It has 
a little studded frame of fine workmanship. She 
thinks the sitter of last time will know, because she 
liked it, and used to handle it much. It is quite small, 
but not quite flat, the surface is a little convex." 

When a copy of the above reached my friend he promptly 
replied that his wife's mother recognised this description, 
having unpacked the article, after changing residence, 
only a few days before. It had been one of the ornaments in 
his wife's home before her marriage, and had stood in her 




To face page 103 . 

This photograph-stand of coloured mosaic was in a house I had not 
entered, and in the possession of a lady whom I did not know. Her son- 
in-law anonymously shared one of my sittings with Mrs. Leonard, and on 
a subsequent occasion, when he was not present, it was described as 
follows :— 

“ Your father says he has seen the young lady who came here lasc 
time She told him that, quite recently, there had been a sort of medallion 
found; it is a little oval picture, not for a wall, but an ornament It 
has a little studded frame of fine workmanship She thinks the sitter of 
last time will know, because she liked it, and used to handle it much. It 
is quite small, but not quite flat, the surface is a little convex." 

The one discrepancy relates to the words, " the surface is a little 
convex." I should not have described it so, although the mosaic flowers 
project. 

The incident was pregnant with significance for both the lady and 
her son-in-law. The latter is shown in the photograph with his wife 
who, shortly after her passing, originated this message. 

For the full account, see page 104. 



Can Keep in Touch with Earth 105 

.mother’s priyate room. He added that, although it was 
just possibly that he might have seen it some years pre- 
\uously, he had no recollection of having done so. He 
called a few days later, bringing the article. The frame is of 
fine mosaic work. Its size is 3! by inches. The one 
discrepancy relates to the words, “ not quite flat, the 
surface is a little convex." I should not have described 
it in that way, although the mosaic flowers are in high 
relief. 

At the time of receiving the letter, my friend had not 
heard of the finding of this object, and doubts if he had 
ever known of its existence. I had not met his wife or her 
mother, nor had I been to their homes. 

My friend’s wife had been familiar with the ornament 
throughout her girlhood. Was it not natural that, when 
noticing it in her mother's new house, she should arrange 
with my father to speak of it, thus giving her husband a 
further evidence of her identity and nearness ? 

I close this chapter with an account of one who, from 
thelife beyond, observed the peril of his widow and inter¬ 
vened. It illustrates again that those who depart this 
life can still keep in close touch with those they leave 
behind. 

During a sitting some years ago my father said, through 
Feda, that he had promised to convey a request from one 
who was a stranger to me, but whom he had met in the 
other world, a delightful and clever man, who was extremely 
anxious about his wife on earth. She had been left with 
their infant son and was in deep depression. He had 
spoken with her at a sitting and it had comforted her, 
but he noticed that she had recently yielded to depression 
and he had, reason to believe that she now entertained the idea 
of killing both the child and herself He was therefore most 
anxious that someone should intervene to prevent that 
calamity. 

After this introduction, which I have abbreviated, my 
father proceeded:— 

“Many people know me and my work with you 
here. He asked me whether you could see and talk 



Further Evidence 


106 


with her without telling her that he knows she had 
thought of doing this. He would not wish the idea 
suggested to her again if it has really gone. But she 
has, he fears, only temporarily recovered and was in 
despair a little time back, and had the wild idea that 
both she and the child would be better off in passing 
to the next life. We wish to avoid that rash act at 
all costs ; for it would not bring her nearer her husband. 
Suicide is bad enough, but coupled with the destruction 
of another life it is very bad. Her husband thinks she 
can manage her affairs if she could find someone who 
would give her hope and befriend her a little/' 

More was said, from which I gathered that the thought 
of suicide had been noticed in the widow's mind only three 
days previously. My sister added that they were very 
anxious about her, and that while at first the husband had 
some diffidence in asking them to tell me what he had 
seen in his wife's mind, he felt that a minister might be 
trusted to act with the needed discretion. I asked Feda 
if she remembered whether the lady had named this 
terrible idea during her recent sitting. Feda said that 
nothing of the kind had been hinted, and that the lady had 
left seemingly cheered, although troubled about her future 
plans. 

I discovered the widow's address with some difficulty 
and then my wife and I made her acquaintance. The 
special reason for the husband's anxiety was never named 
by us, but when we had known her for some weeks and she 
told us the story of her sorrow, she incidentally remarked 
that, at one time, she had wondered if it might not be the 
best thing “ to turn the gas on herself and the boy." 
This was some years back, and she has faced life bravely 
ever since. 



CHAPTER X 


THE SPIRITUAL BODY 

No sooner had my father commenced to communicate with 
me than I realised from his remarks that he wished me to 
understand that he now lived in a body which, to him, 
seemed as real and as substantial as the body he had 
inhabited while on earth. Instead of the vapourish form 
which I had imagined to be the dwelling place of the 
departed soul, he described a replica of his former body, 
but one which possessed powers of movement, and an 
extension of the senses, far surpassing anything familiar to 
earth. He spoke of being suitably clad in garments, and 
not, as I had supposed, draped only in a cloud of light. 

In these records the new body is variously termed the 
“ spiritual,” the “ ethereal,” or the " etheric ” body. 

This spiritual body is described as being so sensitive to 
the condition of the soul within, and partaking of its 
nature and development so completely, that it manifests 
unmistakably one's true character. 

My first sittings were some fourteen years after my 
father's passing. In one of these he remarked :— 

“ All bodily weakness was left behind at my passing. 
I am now hale and hearty, looking a young man in the 
prime of life. Were you to see me as I really am, it 
is possible that you might not recognise me. My 
appearance is more like the early photograph which 
shows me without a beard, but with rather prominent 
whiskers. Have you that photograph ? ” 

I was able at once to recognise the photograph in 
question. It was then in my mother's house at Bourne¬ 
mouth. It is of cabinet size and framed. It dates from 
L.B.D. 107 H 



108 The Spiritual Body 

the time when I was very young and has been familiar to 
me all my life. The significance of the change between my 
father's appearance in old age and that described above is 
seen by comparing the photograph in question with one 
taken shortly before he passed. 

Some months later, he remarked :— 

“ I look many years younger than when I passed 
over. When your mother joins me she, too, will 
gradually change to youthful perfection again. For 
when the ethereal body is freed from the flesh it tends 
to revert automatically to its prime. After our 
family circle is completed we shall all progress towards 
perfection of outward form, so that I shall become even 
more youthful than now. 

“ It is usual for friends who welcome us here to 
assume something of that appearance which was theirs 
on leaving earth. Just as members of one family 
gradually advance in age without their noticing any 
sudden change in each other, so do they here grow 
steadily younger in appearance until all attain the 
look of youthful perfection. 

" Your mother has not looked any older to me 
since I left; for I see her spiritual body which looks 
even younger than she appeared at the time I passed 
over. You see only the covering; but I see her as 
she is." 

CLD.T .: If the etheric body of an aged person looks to you 
younger than does the physical body to us, how 
would the etheric body of a growing youth appear ? 
Would it seem younger or older than his physical 
body ? 

Father: The etheric body of a growing youth would look 
young; it is progressing and would be seen as im¬ 
mature. But in a person past the prime of life the 
etheric body always looks younger than its physical 
counterpart. It cannot follow downward steps. In 
the case of a boy who was mentally advanced, his 
etheric body would be in agreement with his mental, 
rather than with his merely physical growth. 



The Spiritual Body 109 

C.D.T.: Are you never weary ? 

Father: Never; force is generated in my body which 
quickly revitalises any part that may require it. 
Yet sometimes, knowing that it is good to have a 
change, I lie down. But this is more for meditation 
than for rest. It is the only kind of rest we need. 
On earth you require sleep, but for us a soulful 
meditation brings rest. 

O.D.T.: I wish to ask about the body in which we live after 
physical death; does that body already exist here, 
interpenetrating the physical body ? 

Father: Yes, the etheric or " spiritual body ” is with you 
now, the entire bulk of it, but it is not so alive or 
conscious as is your physical body. When the latter 
sleeps your consciousness passes automatically into 
the former. The etheric body is never unconscious. 
It has a separate consciousness when freed from the 
physical body, and shares the consciousness of the 
latter when within it. Those who can see clair- 
voyantly, and remember what they see, must have a 
partial or momentary division of consciousness; but 
the etheric body sees only partly and in glimpses 
during earth life. It is the etheric body which sees 
clairvoyantly. Should a person suffer harm by this 
clairvoyance it would be through straining and over¬ 
doing it, ejecting consciousness too often from its 
proper sphere. While on earth, the physical is its 
sphere; for men are placed on earth to concentrate 
upon a physical environment. 

Father: When the body is discarded you have a " spiritual 
body/' that is to say, one which is more akin to 
the Divine Spirit, more sensitive to His operation. 
But if He has not been permitted to manifest Himself 
through the earthly body, the etheric body will be 
unsuitable for His manifestation, the latter being 
dominated for some time after death by the habits of 
its physical body. That which is done in the earthly 
body modifies, for better or for worse, the etheric body. 
The penalty of an ill life consists in certain qualities 



HO The Spiritual Body 

of the etheric body which limit and hinder when a man 
passes over. 

One can speak in this way of the etheric body as 
something by itself. But it must be realised that 
one’s soul and its etheric body are inseparable. Just 
as you manifest on earth by means of, and through, 
the physical body, so do you, on passing over, manifest 
in and through the etheric or spiritual body. The 
habits of the soul are perpetuated and made manifest 
in its essential body ; that body which, during life on 
earth, was being modified and stamped by the actions 
and quality of the soul. 

G.DS.: Is the spiritual body which you see with us 
indicative to you of our actual character, not the 
mood of the moment, but the actual character which 
we have formed within ourselves ? 

Father : The spiritual body indicates character to us more 
than the outer body could do either to you or to us. 
The physical can wear a mask, the spiritual cannot do 
so. The outer body may show a fair face and pleasing 
expression, but should that person’s mind and char¬ 
acter be evil, the spiritual form would show it; the 
face of the latter would not be so pleasant as the face 
you looked upon. 

Spirit itself cannot be evil or ugly ; but the soul of 
man, which is developed by the combination of spirit 
and body, 1 reveals its true nature by the appearance 
of its etheric body. There can be no deception. We 
can always tell from our side. We may seem to make 
mistakes over some matters, especially when we try 
to see and describe earthly things, but we are never 
wrong in matters of character. Few people have a 
spiritual body which is entirely ugly. The mood of 
the moment has some effect on its appearance, but an 
evil man cannot entirely change the look of his 
spiritual body in a good moment. There might be 
some improvement, but not a complete change, and 
no momentary improvement could deceive us. 

sFor t e aching given upon the relation existing between soul and spirit, see Chap. rrix. 



The Spiritual Body 111 

We now proceed to my sister's remarks on this subject. 

G.D.T.: When you passed over and met those whom you 
had formerly known, did they look much the same as 
when on earth ? 

Etta : I think I may say “ Yes ” to that question. Only 
they look younger and healthier, and also so much 
happier, and happiness changes people greatly, giving 
them more colour and expression. One notices more 
difference in some than in others, especially in those 
whose faces used to be gloomy. 

At a sitting held shortly after her passing I asked ;— 

C .D.T.: What is your present body like ? 

Etta: It looks just as I did when much younger, say 
shortly after my marriage. 1 But I am always well 
now, and never feel tired. I even choose to dress 
much as I did while on earth. I shall not change 
very much until you and the others have come over. 
Then, gradually, we shall all change. Perhaps you will 
understand my meaning if I say that people usually 
make that gradual change in groups. 

G.D.T.: Have our grandparents changed much ? 

Etta: They have changed considerably. But when meet¬ 
ing those who would expect to see them as they used 
to be they would approximate to that former appear¬ 
ance. Our appearance is now far more amenable to 
our will than it was on earth. 

Etta: Recuperating forces constantly replenish our bodies, 
but we need neither food nor drink, although our 
bodies look and seem the same as yours. You take 
food because it is what your organism needs, ours does 
not depend upon such sustenance as you consume* 
We breathe in our nourishment, 

C.D.T.; Do you not require sleep ? 

Etta; No, our rest is not as yours, because there is no 
unconsciousness. We certainly rest at times, but 

i EJtta passed over at the age of forty-six. 



112 The Spiritual Body 

retain consciousness, not perhaps acutely so, but a 
partial or peaceful consciousness. 

C.D.T.: And you have no difficulty in recognising each 
other there ? 

Etta: I recognised father and he recognised me. You 
might suppose that, in the case of a mother who had 
lost a baby boy long years ago, she would feel dis¬ 
appointed at meeting a full-grown man when she 
arrived on our side. But, speaking generally, she does 
not feel so, because her soul will have kept in touch 
with his gradual change of form through meeting him 
while her body was sleeping. 1 

Etta: In contrast to my weakness during the last few 
years on earth it is a relief to be freed from questioning 
whether I shall be fit for such and such a duty. To 
have a strong body once more is just splendid. 

C.D.T .; What exactly is your body now ? (The date of 
this sitting was five years after her passing). 

Etta: It is rather difficult to say. Could you say just 
what your body is ? I term mine an etheric body, 
but it is one that I can see and feel. It is composed of 
chemical matter of some kind, but of a different kind 
from yours ; for your body will dissolve and evaporate. 
Our bodies are lighter than yours, and so is our 
atmosphere. But we are visible in our atmosphere, 
as you are visible in your atmosphere. You do not 
see me because my body is suited to my atmosphere, 
but not to yours. I have not altered in features nor 
in form; my hands, for example, look the same to me 
as when on earth. But my body is now entirely under 
the control of my will. Yours is not. You could not 
sit down and will away your pain. When, however, 
you come to us, during the sleep of your earthly body, 
you come in a body which is akin to ours and which is 
suitable to our atmosphere. I feel sure that these 
meetings with us help you, although you do not 
remember them. 

i For explanation, see Chap, xxx. 



CHAPTER XI 


THE EVIDENCE OF BOOK TESTS 

“ On returning home, go to the room where book¬ 
shelves stand opposite the window; from the top 
shelf on the right take the fourth book from the left. 
Open this at page 33 and find, rather more than 
half-way down, a distinct reference to something 
which your father ardently supported in his later 
years.” 

Such a message as the above, if received during a sitting, 
would be a book test. The message is presented in a form 
which we have to make intelligible by discovering the 
missing portion—namely, certain words in a book which 
some invisible intelligence has selected as being suitable 
for his purpose. Until finding these words the message 
remains a puzzle ; for we cannot with any certainty guess 
which of our father's interests may be the one intended. 
And not only is the subject matter unknown, but we 
cannot recollect which book stands in the place described. 
Still less are we able to recall the topic dealt with on its 
thirty-third page. 

If, on reading “ rather more than half-way down ” the 
designated page, we find a reference to some enterprise 
which we remember that our father ardently supported in 
his later years, then the experiment will have been success¬ 
ful. Such a success could not be attributed to leakage 
from one's own mind, and no fanciful stretching of “ tele¬ 
pathy ” helps towards an explanation. The selected 
passage has been correctly matched with a remembered 
fact. Who did this matching? Our communicators say 
that it is their doing. A careful study of hundreds of these 
tests has convinced me that this is the explanation. 

A few highly endowed sensitives are reported to have 
succeeded in reading words contained in sealed envelopes, 

113 



114 The Evidence of Book Tests 

or a paragraph from a book unopened. But they require 
either to touch the object, or to be in close proximity with 
it. The wide difference between this feat and our book 
test experiment will be obvious. But I think that this 
acute sensitiveness, evidenced by a few gifted persons, 
affords a hint of the methods used by our invisible friends 
when arranging evidential tests for our instruction. I 
revert to this at the close of the present chapter. 

My father remarked that he had been anxious about his 
earlier book tests, well knowing that, if they succeeded, 
this new evidence would remove from my mind any 
possible questioning as to the reality of his communications. 
They certainly served their purpose. The successes were 
sufficient, both in quality and in number, to prove his 
ability to scrutinise my books and to ascertain the con¬ 
tents of specified pages. Thought-transference from my 
own mind was ruled out; for he frequently selected from 
books which I had never read, and from pages which were 
uncut. 

On one occasion, while Feda was transmitting a de¬ 
scription of the book to be experimented with, I was able 
to recognise it as a volume given me two days before and 
which I had left unexamined and unopened on my study 
table. To return home, therefore, and discover by verifying 
the several test items, that my informant knew more about 
this book than I did, was a clean-cut and impressive 
experience. It was not reasonable to suppose collusion 
between the medium and the friend who gave me 
the book; neither of them have been inside our house, 
and it is certain that they could not possibly have known 
where I had placed the book. Yet its precise whereabouts 
in my study was described. 

These tests were often selected from rooms which I had 
never entered. One such was in the house of an acquain¬ 
tance living at a distance. I wrote explaining matters, and 
gave the description of the room, the particular shelf, the 
position occupied by the book upon that shelf, and the 
number of the page. The test message stated that on 
this page would be found a few words aptly describing 
the purpose for which my father was working with me % On 



The Evidence of Book Tests x 15 

receiving a reply I learnt that the page in question con¬ 
tained the words. To give light to them that sit in darkness 
and in the shadow of death . Few sentences could more 
effectively summarise the purport of my father's remarks 
at this period about his object in working with me. For 
he often emphasised the need of evidence, sufficient in 
quality and quantity, to ensure that his speaking with me 
and his account of experiences in the life beyond, would be 
recognised as something more than fanciful imaginings. 
He believed that a conviction of the reality of such com¬ 
munications as his would, for many people, dissipate un¬ 
certainty about a future life; and that, for others, an 
acquaintance with his after-death experiences might 
remove, or at least greatly lessen, the fear of death. 

When he deemed that I had sufficient material for a 
book, he supplemented his suggestion that I should publish, 
by weaving into his tests an occasional reference to this 
project. Our book was subsequently published by Messrs* 
Collins Sons & Co., under the title. Some New Evidence 
for Human Survival . It is almost entirely devoted to 
evidence and treats at considerable length on book tests, 
numerous examples of which are to be found in its pages, 
together with a discussion of their significance. 

It will naturally be asked whether chance might not 
sufficiently account for the appropriateness of a passage 
such as the above ? It might. One occasionally comes 
accidentally upon apposite lines which would constitute 
an excellent verification of some book test message pre¬ 
viously received. The question at issue is, however, 
whether chance can achieve a series of good results, or only 
an isolated success now and again ? This question has 
been decided by careful experiment. As explained in my 
former book, I explored the possibilities of alighting on 
appropriate passages at hazard, and it became manifest 
that chance coincidence, however brilliant its occasional 
product, could not produce anything comparable with the 
series of successes which my communicator regularly 
achieved. 

But while one may thus arrive at personal conviction, 
it is more difficult to convey the assurance to those who 



x 16 The Evidence of Book Tests 

have not shared in the experiment. It will therefore be 
appropriate to refer to an inquiry by the Society for 
Psychical Research into this question of chance in book 
tests. The full account is contained in the S.P.P. Pro¬ 
ceedings for March, 1923. The following is a summary: 

Sixty persons took part in a search for fictitious book 
tests. Each of these examined ten of his own books for 
three separate tests. The number of the pages to be 
searched were decided by those supervising the experi¬ 
ment ; and the topics chosen by them were so devised as 
to bring this experiment, as far as possible, into line with 
the book tests obtained by a group of Mrs. Leonard's 
sitters. No fewer than 1800 pages were thus examined, 
every facility being given to ensure that chance should 
produce its best results. The findings were afterwards 
compared with 532 book tests received by the group of 
Leonard sitters and which had been examined by Mrs. 
Henry Sidgwick, whose Report thereon is embodied in a 
Paper (Proc. S.P.P. Vol. XXXI). It was found that the 
Fictitious Tests scored 4.72 per cent, successes, while the 
Leonard successes attained 36 per cent. 

But this difference is further emphasised in favour of 
the Leonard tests by noticing the high degree of success 
achieved by the more skilful of the communicators. The 
following table shows the percentage of success obtained 
(a) in the three Fictitious Experimental Tests, (b) in the 
tests given by the three most successful Leonard com¬ 
municators, whom we will call X , Y, and Z. 



No. of 
results 
examined. 

Complete 

successes. 

Complete 
and partial 
successes. 

Complete, 
partial and 
slight 
successes. 

Experimental tests 
Leonard tests. 34 

1800 

1.89 

4.72 

7.67 

communicators 

532 

17.2 

36 

54.1 

Communicator X 

283 

i 5-5 

37-9 

56.1 

„ Y 

64 

20.3 

47.0 

70.0 

-z 

22 

63.6 

68.2 

77.2 





The Evidence of Book Tests 117 

The S.P.R. account concludes with the following 
lines:— 

“ The total number of results examined by Mrs. Sidg- 
wick, 532, is not far short of the number of results examined 
in regard to each of the three experimental tests, 600, and 
the percentages given in the table above show that even if 
we include in our reckoning a considerable number of 
comparatively unsuccessful communicators, the percentage 
of success is much higher in the Leonard tests than in the, 
chance experiments.” 

It will be seen by glancing at the above results obtained 
by the 34 Leonard sitters that some of their communicators 
were more successful than others. Now, if chance were 
the only factor, a change of communicator should make no 
difference in the result. But there were conspicuous 
differences. Some communicators brought off a large 
proportion of successes, while others failed to do so. This 
difference accords with the repeated assertions of my 
father that book tests necessitate a certain degree of 
clairvoyance for physical objects; and that it requires 
time and practice to develop such clairvoyance sufficiently 
to ensure the minute accuracy demanded by these tests. 
He tells me that some who attempted them had experienced 
difficulty in even perceiving the printed page, while others 
had acquired a facility for the task. We have seen that 
chance coincidence obtained only 1.89 per cent, of complete 
successes, while the most gifted of the communicators has 
63.6 per cent to his credit. From this it may be certainly 
inferred that book tests are not to be explained by chance. 

The following example presents special features. It 
relates to a Mrs. Drummond (pseudonym), who sent an 
account of it to the Society for Psychical Research (See 
S.P.R. Jour ., Nov., 1922, p. 376). 

On December 9th, 1921, Feda transmitted a book test 
from my father which I was to verify in my study:— 

“Top shelf by window, 6th book from left, and 
page 19." 



118 The Evidence of Book Tests 

Feda then continued :— 

“ Page 3 of the same book interests Ian’s father; 
it has a link with his earth life, both general and almost 
in a personal sense.” 

Knowing that Mrs. Drummond’s son Ian, and her 
husband Mr, Arthur (both deceased), frequently gave tests 
through Mrs. Leonard, I sent the above message, together 
with a copy of page three from the book in question, which 
was entitled Via Cruets. Mrs. Drummond replied, saying 
that, on finding nothing relevant in my copy of page three, 
she had, in her own home, asked her communicators if they 
could explain the error. Clairaudiently she heard the 
reply, “ Yes, page eight.” She adds, “ I am afraid I 
doubted the answer. I therefore took my table and asked 
them to give me the number of the page in tilts. Eight 
tilts were given. But then I thought the number was in 
my mind and that I had unconsciously stopped the table. 
I asked several times afterwards, and was always told that 
page eight was correct.” 

On receipt of this letter I copied out and posted page 
eight; but before it arrived Mrs. Drummond left home for 
London, and while there had a sitting with Mrs. Leonard. 
During this sitting her communicators spoke as follows:— 

Mr. Arthur: Perhaps you can remember that there was 
one pursuit of Ian's that I had been rather proficient 
at when I was young, but had dropped in later life. 
Feda: He had not done it since he was very young, not 
done much, but known to be good. It was something 
Ian thought he had shone in. Mr. Arthur had done 
it, but was not able to go on, when he was a young 
man. They would like you to remember after. If 

Mr. Arthur had kept on-” 

Ian (breaking in): Perhaps he would have been better 
than I was. He might have been, but he didn’t keep 
on. 


Mrs. Drummond comments thus on the above: “ I was 



The Evidence of Book Tests 119 

rather surprised at this mention of boxing, as they had 
already mentioned it at other sittings . . . My husband, 
when he was at college, and perhaps just before he went, 
took up boxing and was considered very good, but had to 
give it up as he couldn't afford the time. Feda’s remarks 
don't apply to shooting, fishing, golf, tennis, or anything 
else he did. Ian, our son,'was a very fine boxer, and won 
the Public Schools Boxing Cup after only a few months 
training. When he went to New College, Oxford, he was 
made captain of the Boxing Club and won everything he 
went up for, except once, and he certainly * shone.' That 
wouldn't apply to any other pursuit, though he was quite 
good at most games." 

Now, on returning home, Mrs. Drummond found my 
letter awaiting her, and on reading page eight, which I 
had copied from Via Cruets , found the following lines :— 


THE SPIRITUAL ATHLETE 

Part 2. The Conflict 

Now turn we to another sport 
Fraught with grave truths of like import. 

Where the well-practised pugilist 
Copes with a meet antagonist, 

And labours with adroitest art 
To wound some vulnerable part. 

This quotation, so entirely appropriate, was the more 
satisfactory since she had never seen Via Gruels, nor was 
there a copy of that book in her house. 

If it be suggested that it was easy to guess that the 
figure eight had been mistaken for the figure three, which 
had proved wrong, I accept the suggestion; for Feda 
apparently visualises the numbers given by communicators, 
and sometimes coyifuses a three with an eight. Yet, it 
remains to be explained how so suitable a quotation was 
discovered, and how it came to be associated with an 
obvious reference to boxing when Mrs. Drummond desired 



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the further clue. What is the alternative hypothesis ? 
What power had the medium to explore my books, tilt 
Mrs. Drummond's table in a house fifty miles away, recall 
old memories of Mr. Arthur and Ian, and so intelligently 
act the several parts of the persons claiming to share in 
this experiment ? 

All happened as if these actual persons had selected an 
apposite reference to boxing from my book-shelves, and had 
asked my father to request me to forward it to Mrs. 
Drummond. That they then succeeded in using Mrs. 
Drummond's power of obtaining messages when alone by 
means of table tilting, and in this way corrected an error 
in the initial transmission of the page number. That they 
further ensured ultimate success by a distinct reference to 
boxing during Mrs. Drummond's next Leonard sitting. 

We seem to see in this incident a co-operation between 
her communicators and my father; and this is in harmony 
with their previous assertions that they had met in the 
Beyond. The incident supplies a further addition to the 
impressive array of proof establishing the identity of our 
respective communicators, all three of whom invariably 
take their natural parts in relation to Mrs. Drummond and 
myself. 

As to the method used for discovering these tests it 
seems to be that of sensing, with an occasional achievement 
of clairvoyance. Clairvoyant inspection of books, page by 
page, is said to be dependent on the presence of what my 
communicators term “ the power," an emanation which 
renders physical objects easily visible to them. But this 
emanation is rarely present in sufficient amount for the 
purpose, save in the vicinity of a mediumistic person.^ 

The method chiefly relied upon for book tests is said to 
be that of sensing, a species of mental perception which 
reveals only the ideas, and not the printed words, by which 
they are expressed to us. 

One of my sister's book tests related to a rather trifling 
matter, and yet, as I pointed out at the next sitting, could 
easily have been linked with something much more cogent 
which was contained in an adjoining line. Her reply was 
interesting as a description of the sensing method. 



The Evidence of Book Tests ill 

Etta: What you suggest would have been better, but in 
obtaining these tests we have to wait for associations 
to strike us. It is something like waiting for a note 
which will harmonise with a chord in my mind. Say 
there are three or four notes in the chord, and I wait 
for some single note which will harmonise with it. 
Often it is not a dominant note which strikes me; 
although a true one, it is not what I would have chosen. 

C.D.T.: You are describing how ideas come to you while 
selecting these tests ? 

Etta: Yes ; supposing I were to think of a certain time in 
my life, say a birthday, and wished to connect it with 
a book test. I would recall events which happened at 
the time, let us suppose them to be the following: 
(a) You sprained your wrist, (b) Mother had a 
headache, (c) A fortune was left me. id) Father 
lost a key about which there was some fuss. Say 
that these were my outstanding memories of the day 
in question. 

To obtain tests I stand near your books, or pass 
along by them. For a while I feel nothing. Presently, 
however, I feel something which I can only term a 
response. Now, that response does not indicate to me 
anything in particular, but, as in the old game, one 
feels “ getting warmer/' It is something like be¬ 
ginning to recognise scenery which is leading towards 
a familiar path; one is not quite sure of having seen 
that tree or that house previously, yet a general im¬ 
pression of familiarity dawns, and so one follows the 
road till it leads to recognisable objects nearer the 
goal. Now, after waiting a while, I might get an idea 
of a key, or of locking or undoing. I should realise 
that this had a bearing on my quest, since father once 
lost a key on my birthday, and this incident would 
certainly be remembered by you. 

I should realise that it was unfortunate that I could 
not find anything apposite to the fortune; because it 
is natural to object, " Fancy saying nothing about the 
fortune, yet mentioning such a trifle as the loss of a 
key/' But since the idea of a key came first, I should 



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proceed to ascertain which book and page contained 
this key reference. I would retain in mind the idea 
of the fortune, and, continuing the search, might 
possibly find a reference appropriate to that; for, 
somehow, the getting of one item helps in getting 
others. 

The position is that I have to get something that 
harmonises with my chord ; I must somehow get one 
idea, but cannot ensure its being the most desirable 
one. 

It is this association of ideas which gives us a clue 
to much of the information which we gather when 
composing book tests. 

Since writing this chapter I received the following while 
sitting with another trance sensitive. It is characteristic 
of my father to mention book tests when speaking with me 
through a new channel. 

The book was indicated in the usual way by reference 
to room, position of shelf, and number of book in shelf. 
I was asked to look at page fifty-six, where would be found 
the name Mary, chosen because there was a Mary in 
spirit life related to me. 

I could not remember what volume stood in the place 
described. It proved to be my paternal grandfather’s 
translation of Dante’s Purgatorio . My father’s sister, Mary, 
passed long since; the name appears on page fifty-six, in 
the sentence, A Latin hymn to the Virgin Mary . 

I spent some time scanning other pages for reference to 
this name, but failed to find it repeated. It was natural 
that my father should choose for experiment a book which 
had been in his library and which he greatly valued. The 
test was prefaced by the remark that a name inscribed at 
the commencement of this book was dear to me; this is, 
of course, the name of the translator, my grandfather, 
Thomas. 

I was next told that on page sixty-two would be found 
five lines applicable to my inspirational writing. 

This experimental writing had been frequently named in 
my Leonard sittings some years back, during the time 



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when I practised it, my father claiming to have influenced 
my mind and impressed me with his thoughts. On page 
sixty-two there are the following five lines placed by 
themselves, a quotation from Milton. I italicise the 
specially relevant words. 

"." For now 

My earthly by Ms heavenly overpowered , 

In that celestial colloquy sublime. 

As with an object that excels the sense. 

Dazzled and spent, sunk down, and sought repair/’ 

The test continued:— 

“ On that same page, the fourth line from the top 
will serve to denote the value of our work with you.” 

The line indicated reads: Two angels from above did I 
survey . Taking the word angel in its original meaning of 
messenger, this line is most appropriate to my two com¬ 
municators, father and sister. 

The tests now turned in another direction, thus :— 

ff There is something on your desk which belonged 
to your father.” 

I keep his ruler in the centre of my roll-top desk. 

" There is a desk in your house which belonged to 
him.” 

In our box room is a small writing desk of my father’s. 

“ You have a watch which belonged to him.” 

I always wear my father’s watch. It was mentioned in 
his earliest messages, through Mr. Vout Peters, in 1917. 

” You have a portrait of John as a young man with 
high open collar.” 

L.B.D. 


I 



124 The Evidence of Book Tests 

My father’s name, John, is here casually introduced. 
This portrait had been named in the 1917 sittings, but the 
item “ high open collar ” is now given for the first time. 
The photograph represents my father in his early ministry, 
with high turned-down coat collar and white tie. 

This medium has not been to our house, and the picture 
referred to is in a room where no visitor would see it. 



CHAPTER XII 


A REAL WORLD 

Statements about the next world made by those who live 
there are refreshingly definite and dear. To them it is as 
solidly real as is this world to us. It varies greatly in its 
different regions. In this it is like our own planet. De¬ 
scriptions of scenery and social life differ according to the 
position and opportunites for observation of those making 
the report. This applies equally to explorers from tropical 
Africa, or revenants from celestial regions. Those of the 
latter who most frequently speak with me say that their 
abode is neither the lowest nor the most exalted of the 
regions forming the next world. Failing exact nomen¬ 
clature, they have formed the habit of terming it, “ The 
Third Sphere." Of these spheres there are said to be 
several surrounding our earth at great distances and 
forming a series of globes. The nearest is far outside the 
earth, but surrounding it; the furthest surrounds all the 
others. All of them rotate with the earth. Each of these 
globes has a surface of considerable thickness, and although 
invisible to the human eye, each appears to those dwelling 
on it to be firm and substantial. Each successive globe is 
brighter and more beautiful than the one next below it. 
The outermost may be thought of as "the heaven of 
heavens,” the abode of the most evolved and God-like 
who have graduated through successive stages from earth. 

When we look upward and see the stars, with nothing 
between to obscure our vision, it may not at first be easy 
to think that we are gazing through world upon world of 
active life. All seems silence and emptiness. But so 
does the summer evening air as we stand upon the downs, 
remote from town or village, hearing nothing save, perhaps* 
the chirp of grasshoppers or the drone of a flying beetle. 

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Yet we have but to erect a portable receiver and at once 
we can hear a voice recounting the news of politics, trade 
or sport, or we may listen to music played a hundred miles 
away. Unheard by our physical sense, all this has been 
passing over the silent downland, only to be detected by 
use of a contrivance which interprets it to the ear. 

Is it so difficult to suppose that our sense of sight may 
be incapable of making us aware of what lies between us 
and the stars, even as our sense of hearing is incapable of 
interpreting etheric movements which the wireless receiver 
translates ? 

Our senses have been evolved amid physical surroundings, 
and are trained and sharpened for contact with this 
material world. For recognition of super-physical worlds 
they are inadequate. But it is of super-physical worlds 
we are now thinking. Had we control of our etheric body 
with its senses in active relation to etherial worlds, we 
should perceive more activity and beauty in the sky than 
ever telescope revealed to the astronomer. 

Such an etheric body we now indeed possess, but it sleeps 
within as the immature bird-body sleeps in its unbroken 
shell. Our friends who died broke away from their 
physical body, and they tell those who can hear them that 
they now inhabit a body which, wakening into activity 
when the first one died, introduced them to a world of 
wonder and delight. Theirs is another world, and their 
body is suitable thereto. That body and that world are 
alike invisible to mortal eyes, but to their risen eyes both 
the world and the body they inherit are substantial. 

“ Does your world appear to you to be solid and similar 
to this one ? ” I asked my sister after she had been 
there some few years. She replied:— 

“ Yes, it is a place as earth is, and looks like it. 
It is a place, a similar world, but with greater oppor¬ 
tunities and affording us greater knowledge. I know 
how difficult some people must find it to realise this.” 

In our own times science has pushed discovery beyond 
the boundary of human eyesight. Astronomers know facts 



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127 

which were not revealed to them by sight alone. Working 
from observed effects to the unseen cause, the human mind 
has wrested knowledge from realms invisible. Our ac¬ 
quaintance with atoms, electrons, and the ultimate nature 
of matter, has not been won by sight alone. Science has 
become accustomed to dealing with the invisible. The 
range of human sight is but a few notes only in the midst 
of uncounted octaves. The everyday world of our risen 
friends is invisible to us, but this gives no warrant for 
denying its existence. 

Nor should preconceived ideas fetter our thought as we 
listen to the experiences of those who know. Residents in 
the world beyond death are striving to acquaint us with 
that land which will be ours ere long. What they tell us 
does not clash with reason. On the contrary, it presents 
us with a vista of ascending life and evolving experience 
which not only harmonises with man's deepest instinct, 
but also explains to him the meaning and purpose of 
existence. 

Let us hear what my father and sister say about their 
world. 

C.D.T .; Can you give some description of your present 
life? 

Father: Among those on earth who try to picture our life 
on the Third Sphere there is a tendency to think of it 
as something very, very different from that of earth. 
But Nature effects great changes mostly by gradual 
transitions. Life with us is similar to that of earth in 
this respect, that in both one can work for the good of 
the community. The essential difference is that I am 
immune from illness and that no physical condition 
can adversely affect me. We have more control over 
physical things. Do not eliminate the word “ physical" 
from your idea of our world ; it would be inaccurate 
to describe earth as a physical world and ours as the 
spiritual life. For you can have the spiritual on your 
earth, and we certainly have much of the physical on 
ours. For instance, we live in an atmosphere which 
is chemical and therefore physical; also,, I have a 



128 A Real World 

body; and I wear clothing, since it is a habit of 
thought to think of myself with clothes. But it is 
unnecessary to be measured for them. We can create 
them by thought alone, building up in that way 
whatever clothing we desire. Those who are at first 
unable to do this for themselves find others who will 
readily do it for them. 

We do not eat, neither do we find it necessary to 
drink. I frequently take long walks ; that is because 
I enjoy walking, not because it is necessary. I can 
float at will, but from habit I enjoy feeling my feet 
upon the ground. It will naturally be asked what it 
is that I walk upon; is the ground real, or do I only 
think it ? There certainly is ground, and to me it is 
solid, as solid as is the earth's surface to you, and it 
resists the pressure of my feet. Yet, on account of 
the powers of my mind, I could, should I so desire, 
penetrate and go down into this ground. If you 
wished to descend below the ground in your garden 
you could not accomplish it by your mind alone without 
using a spade or other implement. We possess the 
necessary implement, which is simply our mind and 
will. By making a mental effort I could descend into 
our ground. 

C.Z). 2 \: You have spoken of relations living near your 
present home, and of your walking; are there high¬ 
ways or roads leading from place to place ? 

Father: We have roads, but the surface is unlike the 
stoned or macadamised roads of England. I notice no 
variations of surface. The appearance is something 
like natural soil, but without mud or anything dis¬ 
agreeable, and it is springy and pleasant to the feet. 

We have no such closely populated districts as in 
your large cities. Houses are not crowded together. 
It is quite easy to travel great distances. 

So much which seems fanciful to you is fact with 
us* Many a time Etta has pointed to some scene and 
said, ' It is exactly what on earth we should have 
termed a picture of fairyland/ 



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129 

6 .D.T.: I have a question about the spheres. When 
father spoke about the solidity of the ground, he did 
not mention the view overhead. According to de¬ 
scriptions given of your successive spheres the floor of 
the next higher must be somewhere overhead when 
you are on your own sphere. Are you able to see it, 
and if not, what is seen when you gaze upward ? 

Etta: We see no floor above us, but only what looks like 
sky. Is not your sky just the atmosphere ? We 
have an atmosphere also; so we see sky, but no 
clouds.” 

C.D.T .: Then you cannot see through the sky to the 
floor above ? 

Etta: No, we cannot, and I think this is owing, not only 
to the distance of the sphere next above us, but also 
to the different state of that sphere. There is no 
doubt that it is state, and not distance, which matters 
so much here. Suppose I were on a sphere which 
differed from the one above it more than it differed 
from the one below. Then the distance from the one 
below would seem less than the distance to the one 
above. There are great differences between the 
spheres, and that between, say, the third and fourth 
is much less than that between the fourth and fifth. 
The greater the difference between any two spheres 
the further apart do they appear to us. 

A young friend, recently killed in the war, spoke at my 
first sitting. A few weeks later his mother accompanied 
me, and among her son's observations, given through 
Feda, came the following:— 

“ He was glad to find animals and trees there ; that 
was better than crowns and harps. He had feared it 
might be weird. To his practical mind religious views 
had not been presented in a way to give him any clear 
idea of what it might be like. He received the 
impression that there would have to be a long interval, 
after which one would be ready for music, harps and 
so on. ' When I found it here a thousand times more 



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beautiful than the earth, although in some ways like 
it, I knew I could be happy/ ” 

Feda added:— 

“ He says that he has seen Christ, but that he 
cannot find words which would enable him to express 
himself in describing that meeting.” 

Frequent mention is made of homes. It is implied that 
while these are not strictly necessary, the accustomed habits 
of earth incline most people to use them for a while. My 
father describes his present home as situated on a hillside 
commanding wide stretches of scenery. From its garden 
one walks downward past fields and trees to the bank of a 
river. 

Even on the third sphere there are some who have out¬ 
grown the inclination to reside within walls, and who live 
in valleys, or amidst trees, or on the slopes of the hills. 
Those accustomed to open air life on earth can indulge 
their preference to the heart's content, and in high 
spheres the localised dwelling becomes increasingly rare. 

When one of these resting places, or homes, is vacated 
it may be occupied by someone else. As to possible 
disputes over the possession of vacant residences, such 
diffi culties are said to be obviated by the fact that each 
one feels drawn towards the particular thing which it is 
right and fit for him to have. 

Scepticism as to the reality and desirability of houses in 
the next life is natural to many minds. But, considering 
how great a place the home and its appointments take in 
the mind of average mortals, it would be surprising if such 
ingrained habits of thought were to be suddenly cast aside 
at death. How gradual are most of Nature's processes. 
Given a real world, with surroundings which seem to its 
inhabitants as solidly material as do our surroundings on 
this planet, it is but natural that for some time after leaving 
earth we should retain our tastes and habits and only 
gradually outgrow them. 

In picturing the dwellings of the life beyond, it is essential 



A Real World 


13* 

to realise its changed conditions of existence. Since neither 
food nor sleep are there required, we can eliminate from our 
mental picture most of the features which are important 
in our home life here. This leaves us with something in 
the nature of a place for retirement to which we may go 
when wishing to be alone, a place for receiving friends in 
social intercourse, and adapted for study, contemplation 
and repose. 

In earthly life emigrants arriving in a new country 
usually prefer to live in a locality where some of their 
compatriots are already settled. In process of time the 
district takes on something of the social atmosphere of the 
land from which its residents came. There is the French 
section of Canada, London has its Italian and its Chinese 
quarters, and so on. Now, it is asserted that something 
similar has happened in the Beyond. The various nation¬ 
alities arriving from earth choose for the more part to 
reside among their own people. 

From the sixteenth century, when early emigrants began 
to leave their native lands, it has been an occasional practice 
to give a newly founded town some name reminiscent of the 
land left behind. Thus, the English settlers in America 
planted a Boston ; those who left the Derbyshire district 
round the small town of Melbourne perpetuated that name 
in Australia. Such nomenclature is said to have been 
continued in the next world, for while many on arriving 
there have preferred to continue their accustomed semi¬ 
isolation amid rural scenery, others congregated in towns, 
and these towns have in some instances been named after 
the familiar towns on earth. 

After my father had given a description, of which the 
above is a summary, I asked whether, on his sphere, there 
existed the doubles of London and Birmingham. He 
replied:— 

“ That is an interesting question. We have a 
London, but it is not your London. Certain aspects 
of it do not coincide; our cities do not correspond 
street for street with those on earth. There is some 
likeness in the parks and beautiful buildings, but with 



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us they are all finer. Much is eliminated from our 
towns and cities; for instance, with us there are no 
congested areas, no slums, no sordid neighbourhoods, 
no public houses, prisons, work-houses nor asylums. 

“ But on the lower spheres there are more corre¬ 
spondences with your towns. Thpre one finds slum 
areas again, and some other undesirable features of 
your cities. And such features will persist while their 
counterparts continue on earth. So long as people 
think and live in undesirable ways, there must inevi¬ 
tably remain these undesirable places to which they 
gravitate on coming here. When your earth has 
risen mentally and spiritually above such habits of 
life, the corresponding places on the lower spheres will 
disappear. 

“ It is a curious and noteworthy fact that the 
buildings and surroundings of the lower spheres are 
less permanent than those of the third sphere; they 
are more easily lost by dissolution. On our side of 
death all evil conditions are more easily got rid of than 
on earth. Your slum buildings, even if vacated by 
their occupants, would remain until they were pulled 
down; but here such places would of themselves 
crumble quickly away when once they ceased to be 
required by their inhabitants.” 

It is said that the regions in which the various nationalities 
have settled are related to their earthly fatherlands in the 
sense of being situated more or less perpendicularly above 
them. There is, for instance, on the second sphere what 
we call an England ; there is also another England on the 
third sphere. That on the third is over that on the second, 
and both are situated over the earthly England. At first 
sight it might be thought that, since the residents will 
remain in each for a period longer than the duration of 
individual life on earth, this would cause the Englands of 
the spheres to be more densely populated than that of 
earth. But it must be remembered that the second sphere, 
being far above earth's surface, is of a vastness propor¬ 
tionate tp its distance from the earth. The third sphere 



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133 

will have a still more spacious England, while that on the 
fourth will be again yet larger. Thus, there is ample room 
for all inhabitants. Moreover, on the third sphere the 
proportion of land to water is stated to be much greater 
than on earth, and this gives an increased area for habita¬ 
tion. So that when we turn our thought to the seventh, 
or highest of these spheres surrounding earth, we are 
thinking of an area so immense that the mind no longer 
raises questions relating to possible congestion; there is 
room and to spare for all who shall be ascending thither 
during aeons of time to come. 

Furthermore, the higher spheres are not of that per¬ 
manent and fixed extent which we associate with thoughts 
of earth's surface. The nature of their substance allows of 
expansion and increase according to the collective will of 
their inhabitants. Such is the hint given by my com¬ 
municators. They do not attempt to explain this in 
detail, and it may be doubted whether such explanation 
could be of service to us. It may suffice if we dimly realise 
that there await us all possible facilities, whether spiritual, 
mental or of semi-physical character, for our progress 
towards unthinkable perfection. 

Q.D.T .; I gather from your remarks that your particular 
locality is more or less above that part of earth 
occupied by the British Isles. Are you conscious of 
the movement of your sphere as it revolves in harmony 
with the revolution of our planet ? 

Father: I believe that some here have supposed that our 
spheres remain stationary. It is not so. Our spheres 
move round with the earth, but we are not in any 
sense conscious of the movement. The velocity of 
course increases as one moves toward our higher 
spheres; iox the higher one goes the greater is the 
distance covered during one revolution. Yet so 
gradual is it that we feel no difference while journeying 
to and from your earth. 

G.D.T.: Have you any idea of your distance in miles from 
the surface of the earth ? 

Father: I should not regard any calculations as reliable. 



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The bottom of the lowest sphere is well above the 
earth. Some of the spheres, especially the higher, are 
capable of expansion ; they are not stationary in size. 
There is no doubt that matter, with us, is more pliable 
and responsive to our wills ; the higher one goes the 
more responsive it is. I term it “ matter ” for lack 
of a better word to express it. Our “ matter ” is 
peculiar and different from yours. Solid objects with 
us are elastic, or can become so, and can be remodelled. 
Ability to do this depends upon spiritual power and 
will. New arrivals would no more understand how to 
accomplish this than a new-born babe on earth could 
carve wood. 

G.D.T.: What is below the ground of your sphere ? 
Here we have the antipodes below us, what have you ? 

Father: I can tell you that. Just as the ground of your 
earth is limited in depth, so is ours, but so far as I can 
judge, ours is more shallow than that of earth, and I 
am sure it is chemically different. 

C.D.T.: I conclude that yours is highly tenuous; when 
we look at the stars we must be looking through your 
many spheres. 

Father: Yes, that is so, and yet, to us, our ground is 
solid and opaque. But it does not contain such 
metals and other materials as yours. It is lighter. 
It goes down, I should say, for miles on each sphere. 
On the lowest sphere it is thickest of all. On our 
third sphere it is appreciably thick. Dig deep enough 
and one would get through to the atmosphere of the 
sphere beneath. One would not dig, but that is how 
it stands; the ground is thick, it is also mentally 
penetrable. The spheres above us have ground which 
is thinner and still more easily penetrable by mind. 
For convenience in passing from one sphere to another, 
there are channels or clearings, call them “ tunnels/ 1 
which have been bored mentally, just as you have 
tunnels excavated physically on earth. Constant use 
of these tunnels keeps them clear. We simply use 
mental means where you would use physical means. 
One has to make strong mental effort in order to 



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ns 

penetrate the matter of our spheres. I could, if I 
chose, pass through fresh ground each time it was 
necessary to travel to another sphere, but this would 
be a waste of force ; we use the channel already pre¬ 
pared by other minds. If you found a hole in tha 
hedge which was obviously there for use, you and 
others would naturally go through it and so it would 
be kept clear by constant use. We do similarly. 

Below our lowest sphere is another, that of animal 
life. 

C.D.T.: Do animals go there from earth ? 

Father : Yes, but not to live again individually; it is tha 
sphere of collective automatic and physical life-force, 
call it etheric force, left from the physical animal lives. 
It is drawn back again to earth, but not individually; 
the whole reservoir may be thought of as dividing again 
into small portions. It is not individual life at all, in 
your sense of the word, not life which has held any 
intelligent or spiritual quality. Real life, but of a 
nebulous kind. What sort of soul does a bullock 
possess ? It is nebulous. Cattle soul-force again 
becomes cattle, and only that. It is the energy-giving 
power of the soul, rather than the soul of an animal 
which lives again on earth. 

6 .D.T .: Do pet animals survive ? 

Father: They do survive, but not for ever; possibly for as 
long as those who love them are in need of their 
companionship. I have seen no snakes or lions here, 
only such animals as were accustomed to human 
companionship. A tiger pet is possible on earth, but 
it is quite unnatural, and is never the tiger’s own 
choice in any real sense. The animals who come to 
this sphere are such as have grown naturally attuned 
to man. 

C.D.T.: That would include horses, dogs, cats, and per¬ 
haps elephants and monkeys ? 

Father: The elephant is not a natural pet; it belongs to 
wild life. We have horses, dogs and cats, but very 
few monkeys. Birds seem natural here. I have seen 
birds on the higher spheres which are quite unlike any 



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seen or heard of on earth. They looked like glittering 
gold and silver, shot with colours more beautiful than 
anything pictured by man. 

C.D.T.: Do you see the sun as we see it from earth ? 

Etta: I have not seen it as a round object, yet we seem to 
see its light. Not that we are at all dependent upon 
the sun’s light. I question if we should seriously miss 
it. The natural luminosity of our atmosphere is 
sufficient. With this self-luminous atmosphere there 
are no shadows, nor day and night changes. On the 
higher spheres there is more and more of this irrides- 
cent light. 

G.D.T.: Do you see the moon, planets and stars ? 

Etta: I have not seen their forms at all as yet, but might 
do so by coming to earth and getting into your con¬ 
ditions somewhat. To see objects which are material 
we should use what is akin to clairvoyance. If it 
were worth while I might learn how to see the moon 
clairvoyantly—if it were of any service. But we do 
not concern ourselves with things which cannot, or do 
not, affect our progress and our work here. To me the 
moon seems one of the non-essentials. 

C.D.T.: Yet it is one of the wonders of God’s creation, and 
therefore of interest in learning about Him. 

Etta: There are so many more wonderful ways in which we 
can see His works. 

C.D.T.: Many people question whether, despite these 
descriptions given in human language, there exists 
the same apparent and essential reality there. 

Father: There is something in that. While speaking I 
felt how bald and bare was my description compared 
with the reality of that world. Yet, there are grass, 
trees and flowers, as well as other forms with which 
you are not familiar, things of which I cannot give you 
any conception. I hope that occasionally some 
spring may be touched during our conversations which 
will suggest helpful comparisons. Remember how, 
sometimes unexpectedly, you are touched with 



A Real World 


137 

sudden happiness, an extraordinary uplift, illumination 
and hope, and yet you are unable to tell others why. 
Really, you are then sensing the hidden hope in life ; 
that world which is hidden from you is revealed to 
you, the eye of the soul beholds that which the 
physical eye cannot see. Now, as we go on and 
upward, we increasingly perceive the hidden beauty 
love, and hope in all things. It is not so hidden from 
us as it is from you. Etta and I are in a marvellous 
world. 



CHAPTER XIII 


EVIDENCE FROM EXPERIMENTS WITH THE DAILY PRESS 

Independence of telepathy from the sitter's mind has 
been proved by Book Tests ; but might they not, one will 
ask, be somehow due to the medium's clairvoyance at a 
distance ? My father apparently realised that this point 
required guarding, for he presently devised an ingenious 
extension of the book test idea, one which ruled out the 
medium's clairvoyance as completely as book tests had 
ruled out telepathy. This he did by means of what are 
now known as Newspaper Tests. 

At the hour of my sittings with Mrs. Leonard the type of 
the London Press for the following day is not yet set up. 
Clearly, the medium cannot see what is not existing. 

My father's plan, as explained by himself, was to visit 
the office of a paper selected for the test, and there note 
such names or statements as might lend themselves to his 
purpose. By employing a faculty which seems to involve 
some slight degree of prevision, he then ascertained the 
approximate position which these items would occupy 
when the paper was set up and printed. This done, he was 
ready for my sitting, and soon after its commencement he 
transmitted, through Feda, the references which I was to 
verify the following morning by examination of the issue 
of some particular organ of the public Press. 

The simplest form of newspaper test was the statement 
that such and such a name would be found in a minutely 
described position in the morrow’s Times . The defect of 
this lay in the necessity of transmitting a name through 
Feda—usually a difficult feat. It was, therefore, more 
usual to indicate the name by circuitous methods, such as, 
" one of your mother's names," “ the name of a place by 
the sea at which we once resided," or, “ a place close to 
which you lived when in business." 

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Evidence from Experiments with the Daily Press 139 

More interesting were test messages which indicated 
acquaintance with recent happenings in my work or in my 
private life, matters entirely beyond the medium's normal 
knowledge; also others which referred to my father’s earth 
life in a way which was only obscure until I discovered the 
key-word by looking in the morrow’s paper as directed. 

The general idea of these experiments is illustrated by 
the following examples :— 

April 1st , 1921, at 2.36 pm. 

After indicating certain names which would be found 
near the top of column two on the first page of the morrow's 
Times , Feda proceeded to say :— 

“ Also, close by is an address suggesting being on a 
hill. It reminded him of a place where he had lived. 
He once lived on a hill; to go to his work he had to 
descend. While at that place he had a rather im¬ 
portant change connected with his work; he acquired 
a different official standing.” 

Now, on thinking of my father’s various residences, I 
recollected three which were “ on a hill ” ; but it was 
necessary to refer to records dating back thirty years before 
discovering that, on being appointed to Ilfracombe in 1888, 
he was given the position of District Secretary, an honour 
which he appreciated. His residence at Ilfracombe was 
nearly at the top of Oxford Grove, an unusually steep 
street, from which he had to descend in order to reach the 
town and his church. 

The address which had suggested this reference proved 
to be Shooter's Hill: it appeared in the next day’s Times , 
within five inches of the top of column two on the first 
page. This position was, as foretold, close to the pre- 
ceeding test words. 

Another test from the same page referred to column 
three, where I was to find,— 

“ Not quite half-way down, a name which sounded 
L.B.D, K 



140 Evidence from Experiments with the Daily Press 

to him like that of people with whom your mother has 
recently renewed friendship/' 

In order to ascertain the meaning of this remark it was 
necessary first to inquire of my mother whether she had 
recently met any old friend whom she and my father used 
to know. In her reply she wrote that Mrs. May, a former 
resident in Ramsgate and member of my father's church 
there, had recently visited the town and that they had 
met. 

I was now prepared to scrutinise The Times again. 
Only one inch short of half-way down column three, on 
page one of the above date, was an advertisement containing 
the word May . 

Neither of the above references had appeared in the 
previous day's issue of The Times . 

It was my invariable custom to post a copy of these 
tests to the Society for Psychical Research on the evening 
of the day on which they were given. They are there 
preserved for reference, and it can thus be certified that 
they were received by the Honorary Secretary on the 
morning of the day following each sitting. 


November nth , 1921, at 3.25 p.m. 

In the tests for this date there was but one inaccuracy, 
although seven were given. This mistake looks like a slip 
of memory on my father's part; for Feda said, column 
two, when actually the required words were found to be 
in column one. 

“ Column two, page one of The Times , a little way 
above half down see the name Dawson. He knew one 
Dawson very well; and close to that name is given a 
place which he connects with the Dawson whom he 
knew." 


Just two inches above half-way down column one appears, 
the Rev . Canon Dawson , and on the line next above it is. 



Evidence from Experiments with the Daily Press 14! 

St Nicholas Church. In the years 1882-5 father 
resided at Ramsgate and his colleague the Rev. R. G. 
Dawson lived in Margate. The latter had the oversight 
of our church at St. Nicholas, a village some few miles 
distant. 

It may be instructive to add a note, made during the 
next sitting, which touches on the method by which these 
names are selected. I broached the subject by inquiring, 
apropos of the above, if my father was aware of the 
place-name which stood close to that of Dawson ? Feda 
replied that he had only sensed it as a place which Mr. 
Dawson would have known and spoken about. I then said 
that St. Nicholas was the name found. Feda continued :— 

“ That does not help him to decide if you have 
found the one which he intended, because in this case 
he did not sense its letters, but merely that there was 
a link with Dawson. He says, ‘ I often know things 
which I cannot give here ; but with these newspaper 
tests the difficulty frequently is that I do not actually 
see them as words, but only sense that there is a 
connection. It is the link which is perceived. These 
difficulties are interesting. Your plane is not our 
plane, and we are limited directly we try to touch and 
understand the merely material things of your plane/ ” 

These difficulties are more fully discussed in my previous 
book. It is sufficient to remark here that these tests were 
at first, like book tests, attributed to a power of sensing, 
but that from time to time it was possible to make use of a 
faculty of clairvoyant vision for material things, and that 
on these occasions the actual words were seen . To give the 
position in which the test words would be found in the 
next day’s paper was said to be more intricate, because 
they were not yet in type at the hour of my sitting. In 
order to ascertain what would be their ultimate position 
in the paper it was therefore necessary to employ a clair¬ 
voyance which brought into view the page as it would 
presently he, and, upon the page $0 visualised, to notice 
where the selected test words appeared. 



142 Evidence from Experiments with the Daily Press 

This brings us up against the difficult question of 
forecasting the future. My father insists that what he 
then sees of the visualised page is to be thought of as the 
shadow cast before it of the thing which is about to be. 

I am very far from understanding this explanation. 
The fact of this foreknowledge is certain. It has been 
demonstrated by too many examples to admit of question. 
Such foreknowledge bears upon many well-attested psychic 
phenomena in which correct foretelling has taken place. 
Coming events do sometimes cast their shadow before, 
although we are normally blind to that shadow. And even 
in those instances when we feel impressed that something 
is impending, how few are gifted with the ability to inter¬ 
pret accurately what that something will prove to be. 

That my communicator should have insisted that the 
name Dawson would be found in conjunction with that of 
a place with which his old colleague was connected, is but 
one of many instances which indicate that the person 
devising these tests was cognisant of facts which had been 
familiar to my father in years long past. 

The following examples reveal the close touch which my 
father is able to keep with my activities. They relate to 
incidents which were in the immediate past when the tests 
were given. 


December 20th, 1921, at 11.54 a.m. 

“ In The Times to-morrow, about half-way down 
column one, see the name of a man very recently 
passed over, about whom you have been talking 
lately/* 

I distinctly remember thinking about this particular 
test while returning to London from the sitting. It was 
impossible to recall any name which would meet the case. 
I had not, to my knowledge, been speaking of any who 
were recently deceased, nor could I think of any recent 
death which had especially attracted my notice. My 
mind was a blank as to the name which would appear in 
this exactly designated position in the morrow's Times . 



Evidence from Experiments with the Daily Press 143 

That evening, while taking an appointment at the 
Mission, I heard of the death of a Mr. Ray whom I had 
visited in hospital at his special request. He was a 
member of the Mission, and I had from time to time 
discussed his chances of recovery with my colleague who 
was his regular visitor; these talks had taken place in 
our minister's room and were known only to ourselves. 
In view of this I concluded that the name Ray, if found in 
the given position next day, would be an incontrovertible 
proof of knowledge coming from another mind than my 
own. 

When The Times arrived next morning it showed the 
name Ray in an advertisement placed less than two inches 
below the half-way crease in column one of the first 
page. 

Scrutiny of the previous day's issue showed that this 
advertisement had not been there before; it was right for 
the day stated, and for no other days. 

In an attempt to elaborate this test Feda had said that 
the name James seemed somehow connected; the further 
effort, which had been to find the same name in another 
daily paper, failed; but I discovered some days later that 
James was Mr. Ray's name, a fact I had not previously 
known. 

This incident, following many of similar character, 
indicated that my father was able to follow, with some 
closeness, my work at the Mission. To many minds this 
might seem more easy to credit than that he should be able 
to investigate in The Times printing works the preparation 
for the morrow's edition. Yet, the latter achievement has 
been demonstrated by many scores of accurate newspaper 
tests.^ The fact is beyond dispute, although a full under¬ 
standing of the powers employed is probably beyond the 
reach of our imagination. 

At my next sitting it occurred to me that it would be 
interesting to ascertain whether my father could transmit 
the name Ray through Feda; I was interested in the fact 
that names so frequently presented a difficulty, and this 
seemed an opportunity for ascertaining where the difficulty 
lay. So I asked:— 



r 44 Evidence from Experiments with the Daily Press 

“ About the name in The Times of one recently 
passed over and which I found there; can my father 
now recollect it ? " 

“ He can," replied Feda. I said to her :— 

“ I do not wish to spend time about it if you cannot 
get it from him easily, but perhaps he can tell you how 
many letters are in that name." 

Feda then repeated my question and appeared to be 
watching intently while counting thus —“ One—two— 
three—. One—two—three—there must be more than 
three. Nobody has only three letters in their name. 
One—two—three—One—two—three—.' ' All this was 
said very softly, as if not meant for me to hear. I 
then said, “ Has he given you the number, Feda ? " 

She replied, “ He does not get beyond three. He 
keeps sticking at three. One, two, three." And 
beyond this Feda seemed unable to ascertain the 
communicator's meaning. 

I was left with the impression that Feda felt she had 
failed to give the answer required, and that she supposed 
my father was unable to tell her the correct number of 
letters in the name. Had she been reading my mind it 
should have been easy for her at least to realise that three 
was the number of which I was thinking, even if she could 
not read there the name Ray. 


October 4 th, 1922, at 2.36 p.m. 

“ In to-morrow's Times , page one, column one, and 
near the top, see the name of a place which you much 
liked while away; you went to see it, but not to stay 
there, and were very interested. It is not the name 
of a county, but of a small locality." 

My wife and I had recently returned from a motoring 
holiday in Cornwall. Only five days previously we had 
stayed for an hour at Sherboume, where we took tea in 
an upper room, the window of which overlooked a street 



Evidence from Experiments with the Daily Press 145 

adjoining Sherboume School. There we had watched the 
boys passing to and fro. Before leaving the town we 
inspected the school buildings from the outside, and were 
sufficiently interested to read, on arriving home, all we 
could find in my books relating to Sherbourne and its 
school. 

Now, the test message given above is somewhat vaguely 
expressed, and it seemed quite possible that more than 
one place might have equally well corresponded with such 
a description. But, on looking at The Times on October 
5th to discover the solution of the riddle, we were, I 
candidly admit it, astonished to see the words, School 
House , Sherbourne , placed precisely where I had been 
instructed to look, viz., “ near the top of column one of the 
first page.” 

My father lived in the neighbouring town of Yeovil 
during the years 1891-4, and we had visited Sherboume 
together in those days. The place, therefore, held for me 
associations with my father, and these had been strongly 
in my thought during the hour spent there. 

My father has frequently remarked that links of associa¬ 
tion make these tests easier for him. If this be the case, 
one can realise how my vivid thought of him during the 
hour spent in Sherbourne, may have led him to seek for 
something in the contents of the paper which he could weave 
‘into evidence for my next sitting. 

In this same sitting there was a further test which may 
be fittingly recorded here. 

“ Lower in this column, i.e,, column one of The 
Times , first page, and probably half-way down, they 
saw the name of an old friend of Clara’s, a lady to 
whom she was much attached, one older than Clara. 
And a little below it comes the name of a place in 
which Clara would have known this friend and with 
which she would associate her.” 

It is clear that neither my wife (Clara) nor I had sufficient 
clue in the above to make guessing worth while. We waited 



146 Evidence from Experiments with the Daily Press 

until the paper arrived next morning and then discovered 
the name Pooh , which stood within one inch of half-way 
down the first column of page one. This name was 
peculiarly appropriate to the description. My wife had 
for many years been on terms of most intimate friendship 
with three sisters named Poole, the two elder of whom 
were senior to my wife and had died before this date. 

The second part of the test was as quickly recognised as 
the first part; for we found, only four inches below the 
name Poole, the name of the place where my wife had 
first known them. This was Streatham , a place always 
associated in her mind with the Poole family. 

It may be asked whether my father had known of our 
friendship with this family ? I do not think he knew 
during his life on earth, but my sister certainly did, and 
she has associated herself with the devising of these tests 
ever since a period shortly after her passing. 

One is left in doubt whether to class this knowledge of 
the Poole family, and their earlier residence at Streatham, 
with my sister’s earth memories, or with information 
derived from us since passing. For, although my sister 
knew of my wife's friendship with the Misses Poole, we 
have no reason for thinking that she was aware of their 
having lived at Streatham, a place from which they 
removed many years before my sister met them. 

Our illustration of this class of evidence may conclude 
with one which alludes to the difficulty of obtaining the 
material for these experiments. 


October 27th, 1922, at 2.39 p.m . 

This sitting was prefaced by a reminder from my father 
that he had often remarked upon the extent to which 
changing conditions on earth helped him or hindered him 
when selecting his tests from The Times office. Certain of 
those remarks are recorded in chapter XX. of my former 
book, among them this: “I find myself helped or hindered 
by conditions in obtaining these tests." 

Then came the following for the morrow's Times :— 



Evidence from Experiments with the Daily Press 147 

“Page six; the column at the extreme right ol 
the page, and nearly at the top, expresses sentiments 
which would have been very appropriate to the 
occasions when his tests failed/' 

On inspecting the right-hand top comer of page six in 
the next day's Times the following words were seen within 
two inches of the top : Begun . . . yesterday in adverse 
conditions . . . which handicapped . . . and consequently no 
good times were accomplished. This is curiously appro¬ 
priate ; “ adverse conditions ” had been frequently 

mentioned; " yesterday ” would correspond to the day 
of the sitting, i.e., the day on which the tests had been 
selected at the office and transmitted to me ; and even the 
word “ times ” is present, although lacking the capital. 
I give the upper part of this column as printed in the 
Times of the date mentioned. 

ATHLETICS 

OXFORD SENIOR SPORTS 

The Oxford University Seniors' sports were begun 
at Oxford yesterday in adverse conditions. 

A strong north wind blew up the straight, which 
handicapped the sprinters considerably, and conse¬ 
quently no good times were accomplished. 

Considering the hour at which this test was given, viz., 
2.39 p.m., it seems probable that the correspondent who 
sent his report to The Times would not have written it 
until after my sitting concluded. Yet, there is small doubt 
of his having already formed in his mind a general idea 
of some introductory remarks relating to adverse weather 
conditions. While he may not have written the above 
sentence so early, it may well have formed itself in his 
mind ; for he could not but be aware that the high wind 
would prevent the best results. Also, he would be thinking 
of this fact in connection with The Times , for which his 
report was destined. If then, as my communicators 



148 Evidence from Experiments with the Daily Press 

frequently state, thoughts are very real things and travel 
to the person and place towards which they are mentally 
directed, we may imagine this correspondent’s thoughts 
about weather and slow running being directed sub¬ 
consciously toward the office of The Times at an hour even 
earlier than 2.39 p.m. 

We may further suppose the likelihood that workers in 
that office had a general idea of the kind of information 
which this particular column was to contain. They would 
know that it would not be filled with advertisements, 
politics, foreign news or law cases. It was reserved for a 
certain class of information and their subconscious minds 
would so picture it, probably as filled with sports news. 

Add together all the above factors, the officials mentally 
delegating sports news to this sixth page, the Oxford 
correspondent moulding in thought the opening phrases of 
his report, my father standing invisibly in the office for 
the purpose of ascertaining what material he could find 
suitable for his purpose, and then picturing the page in 
which his selected material would presently appear. 
Then, into his picture of this page, there falls automatically 
the ideas which officials were mentally relegating to it. 
Among these is the paragraph selected for the test, a 
paragraph which, although not yet actually present, is 
being projected in thought towards the office. 

The above would seem to represent the foundation upon 
which the achievement rose into being. The rest of the 
process is scarcely imaginable, but its result lies before us. 
That which my father saw was not materially present, but 
was destined to be there in a few hours’ time. The coming 
event cast its shadow before, and what by us is accounted 
as a shadow was, to him, already a reality. 

It is beyond my power to explain how newspaper tests 
are accomplished. The above is merely an attempt to 
indicate the direction in which my mind turns when looking 
for the solution. My purpose is to show that things have 
been accomplished which demanded powers far beyond 
any which we normally exercise. The facts are self- 
evident; their explanation eludes us. These tests have been 
so numerous and so miiiutely successful as to pass far 



Evidence from Experiments with the Daily Press 149 

beyond anything attributable to chance coincidence. 
This I have shown in Chapter XV. of my former book, 
and it is open to readers to prove it for themselves by 
repeating the experiment there described. 


INCIDENTAL EVIDENCE OF IDENTITY DISCOVERED IN 
NEWSPAPER TESTS 

Newspaper tests, like book tests, proved that thought- 
transference from human minds was not a factor in these 
communications. They show that information can be 
given which is not within the knowledge of either medium 
or sitter, or indeed of any one mind on earth. That which 
is stated in the test is dependent for its completion, and 
often for its intelligibility, upon something which is to be 
discovered in the public Press of the following day. The 
message remains incomplete until one learns the key-word 
by looking in a definitely described part of the given page 
in the particular newspaper named. 

Although these newspaper tests were not offered as 
proofs of identity, they have from time to time provided 
this class of evidence. The following are instances of the 
speaker's familiarity with facts which had been within my 
father's knowledge when on earth. In each case the 
information has been obtained by comparing the test 
message with the key-words discovered in the described 
part of the following day's Press. My comments are 
added within brackets. 

1. My mother's maiden name was Dore, and she spent 

some years of her girlhood in Hampshire, 

(The name is correct. She went to a boarding 
school in Southampton.) 

2. My father's first church after marriage was called 

Victoria, and at Victoria I was bom. 

(This was at Taunton. The house in which I was 
bom was in Victoria Terrace, close to the Victoria 
Church in Victoria Street. The name Victoria could 
not have been discovered from our church reference 
books.) 



i Jo Evidence from Experiments with the Daily Press 

3. The name Kate was connected with that of a young 

boy whom I knew when they were living near us. 

(Kate’s little brother was my first boy friend. 
They lived near us and were frequently at our house 
when I was four years old.) 

4. When my sister and I were quite young we knew a 

Mr. Goodwin at Leek. 

(Mr. Goodwin of Leek was a personal friend of my 
parents' and was at that time of special interest to 
me because he gave exhibitions with a magic- 
lantern.) 

5. While living at Leek my father met a minister named 

Perks and became friendly with him. 

(This happened in 1873. I verified it from my 
father's diary. The Rev. G. T. Perks, M.A., being 
president that year, came to preach at Leek where 
my father was then stationed, and they spent the 
day together.) 

6. I was occasionally taught by one who was not a 

schoolmaster and whose name was Joseph. 

(Joseph was my schoolmaster's son ; he used to 
help his father by teaching the juniors of whom I 
was one.) 

7. My father's old friend, Thomas Hine, lived at 
Baldock, Herts. 

(The above was his address during the period of 
our intimate friendship, 1876-9.) 

8. The name Preston would be recognised by my mother 

as indicating one who still lived at Ramsgate and 
who had been known to them both. 

(Mr. Preston was a member of our church at 
Ramsgate in my father's time, and was still residing 
there at the date of this message.) 

9. While living in the Isle of Wight I was engaged in the 

same kind of business as that pursued by my Aunt 
Margaret's father in his earlier years. 

(My father would have known the latter’s business, 
but I was unaware of it until making inquiries in 
consequence of this statement.) 

10. One now passed over, named George, was an old 



Evidence from Experiments with the Daily Press 151 

servant of the family and held in much affection; 
he was somewhat querulous, but very loyal to us all. 

(This characterisation is entirely applicable to 
George Young, who, for fifty years, was porter in 
my maternal grandfather’s business.) 

ix. Georgina was known to both my parents. 

(She was their very intimate friend from 1870 
onwards.) 

12. Some twenty years ago my father was very familiar 
with Birkdale. 

(Birkdale was the name of a house which he 
purchased and lived in on retiring from active work 
at a date nineteen years before this message was 
given.) 

13. On my shelves are books written by my paternal 
grandfather, and these volumes had been much 
prized by my father. 

(I have six books of which my father’s father was 
the author; they came to me from my father's 
library and had been much valued by him.) 

14. A large number of accurate references are summarised 
when I say that the names of my uncles, aunts and 
cousins, besides those of more distant relations, 
were correctly given. In several instances the place 
of residence was included. Some of these persons 
had died before my birth. 

The above subject matter covers a range of forty years 
and is a collection of minutiae personally interesting to my 
father and to me. My mother and I are the only persons 
who recollect all the facts. Indeed, we were not quite able 
to do so unaided; it was sometimes necessary to refer to 
family documents, and in order to check the accuracy of 
No. 9 information had to be asked from an aunt. 

My father had been familiar with all these facts. I 
therefore offer this selection as incidental evidence that 
the communicator claiming to be my father, and who 
speaks to me through Mrs. Leonard and Feda, is the 
person he claims to be, namely my father, John Drayton 
Thomas, and no other. 



CHAPTER XIV 


OCCUPATIONS IN THE LIFE BEYOND DEATH 

Father: Many people think that we must be living in a 
kind of dream state, or in a world which is mental only. 
It is not so. Even in a world where one can create 
mentally there must be some material to work upon. 
On whatever sphere you may be living you have 
material on which to work. I have said that where 
we live this material is easily mouldable; we can 
mould it perfectly well by mental action. 

Now, the occupations of the inhabitants are many 
and varied. The professions and careers which people 
choose to follow are somewhat similar to those of 
earth. But certain of your earth occupations are not 
needed with us. For instance, there are no occupations 
here which are based upon destruction. 

Etta: You understand that our ground is composed of 
soil, but there is no wind to carry dust about and no 
smoke, therefore we have no need for servants. Yet 
we have many kinds of occupation open for people's 
choice. 

Father : Perhaps more than for any others we have scope 
for builders and architects. 

C.D.T .: I am rather surprised to hear that. 

Father: Well, perhaps they are not more needed than 
teachers; I ought to have placed teachers and in¬ 
structors first in the list. But builders are very 
important because home life is so ingrained a thought 
in newcomers, people would not know what to do 
without homes of their own. It is the first thing 
which settles them, for home gives them a natural, 
familiar feeling again. And so the home is very 
important on our sphere, although it ceases to be so 
after one rises to the spheres above us 
152 



Occupations in the Life Beyond "Death 153 

The first thing we do when someone comes over 
unexpectedly is to help him choose a home, or to find 
people who will prepare one for him. 

The providing of homes is not my work, but I have 
been interested in observing the way in which it is 
accomplished. With us it would be quite possible to 
form a house in a moment, but things are not usually 
done in that manner. Those who understood building 
when on earth do it here for a time; it is the same with 
architects, that is, supposing architecture has been 
their real and natural vocation. Men are not in¬ 
variably drawn to the work they did on earth; for 
they may have had no love for it. A lawyer, for 
instance, may here prefer to study music; his earth 
occupation would, in that case, probably not have 
belonged to his soul's life in any real degree. 

We have artists and musicians, and in fact we have 
people following every art and profession which makes 
for beauty and happiness. But it must be constructive 
work. It must have in it no element of destruction. 

Etta has progressed marvellously with her painting. 
She has not lost that gift, but enjoys it more and is 
more skilled in it. My work remains, in one sense, 
the same, for I am teaching. On earth I endeavoured 
to really teach, and now I am teaching in a more 
progressive sense. With us there are many teachers; 
it is a large profession. 

C.D.T.: Do you refer to teachers or preachers ? 

Father: I do not say that I am a preacher now, for 
preaching is really teaching. Many here require 
teaching. So little of earth's teaching counts after 
one leaves the physical behind. We regard conven¬ 
tional education as nothing in itself except as a ground¬ 
work for further training of mind and character. It 
has its importance, but does not come under our 
system of training. We do not teach languages nor 
mathematics. A person who on earth was a great 
mathematician is useful to us, not on account of his 
mathematics, but for his trained and orderly mind, 
which he can here apply to other conditions. So long 



154 Occupations in the Life Beyond Death 

as a mind is trained so that it can concentrate and 
control the desires—that is more important than any¬ 
thing else. It is the training which stands one in 
good stead here, and everything which trains the mind 
is useful, although purely technical and detailed 
knowledge gained on earth may be lost or left behind. 
For it is the effect of the training and education which 
accompanies you here. 

Etta : I wish to slightly correct something previously said, 
namely, that servants are unnecessary because there 
is nothing for them to do. Many people have servants, 
but they are old servants who are attached to them, 
and who are not spiritually and mentally ready to 
emancipate themselves for other work here; so they 
may live for years in pleasant companionship with 
their masters and mistresses before they evolve on 
definite lines of their own. I thought it worth while 
to say this because it elucidates the real situation when 
communicators tell you that they have their old 
servants with them. 

Father remembers that he was independent and 
enjoyed doing things for himself, and did not wish 
them done for him. He still remains the same. 
But a person accustomed to looking after others and 
attached to them might wish to continue doing it 
here. Father would not favour it; he always preached 
independence. 

Father: We have no mechanical methods of travelling as 
on earth. But I must be careful and somewhat 
qualify that statement. I do not travel in train or 
car, nor do I know anyone here who does so. Yet, 
when engineers come here whose minds are bent ypon 
engineering, and who may not be ready to take up 
another line of study or work, they continue experi¬ 
menting in a limited way, especially with electrical 
engineering. They are sometimes able to discover 
certain things which they then endeavour to impress 
upon the minds of suitable people on earth. But they 
cannot long continue studies relating^ merely to 
mechanical work on earth. We are not interested in 



Occupations in the Life Beyond Heath 155 

flying or motoring, except as it might be a subject of 
interest to you. Such things are not necessary here, 
and the time will come when they will cease to be 
necessary on earth, because you will then employ 
power which is now lying in abeyance. Feda reminds 
me that your old friend, C. B., has a workshop on the 
other side. I think he is unlikely to continue it; he 
is too progressive for that. He will presently wish to 
leave it for spiritual work and higher mental life, 
although it may content him for a few years while he 
develops work in which he was previously interested. 

Gardening is a popular profession with us. 

Of the arts, music and painting come first, and music 
takes premier place. We have sculpture and even the 
making of tapestries. Indeed, all earthly things which 
the eye of man rejoices in can be and are reproduced 
here. It may be asked, what becomes of the objects 
which are no longer wanted when their makers and 
owners rise higher and leave them behind ? Others 
who come here may want just those things. But there 
is with us a process of transmutation or substitution, 
by which objects may be made finer. It is possible to 
change the appearance of an object by mental force, 
entirely altering it without taking it to pieces. This 
process can be effected by those who have developed 
on constructive lines. 

Your recent communicator, Strevett, could not do 
this. He did not construct mentally very well while 
on earth; he did not use his mind forcibly enough. 
He had possibilities and was intelligent, but had not 
trained his mind strongly in any direction. Therefore, 
since he was not constructive himself, many things have 
been constructed for him. By way of contrast, take 
the friend who came to your last sitting. His con¬ 
ditions, when he passed over, were ready for him 
and he found exactly such a home as he would have 
chosen on earth. He had known of it subconsciously, 
though not consciously, before he passed over. He 
can construct very well indeed, more so than during 
his later years on earth, for he now has a younger and 

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156 Occupations in the Life Beyond Death 

stronger brain with which to work. His life here is 
one of great joy, new interests and new delights are 
continually opening before him. But he was pre¬ 
pared ; he had qualified himself for this. 

C.D.T.: You speak of clothing; are your garments simply 
the etheric replicas of those you used when on earth, 
or do you produce them entirely new ? 

Etta: In one sense the answer to your question must be, 
" Both ways.” Let me use as illustration the fact 
that on earth an old garment can be unpicked and 
remade into an apparently new one. Now, our thought 
with regard to an object we have appreciated is so 
strong that it provides the <f pattern ” for a duplicate 
here. But the actual garment is reproduced by pro¬ 
cesses unique to this sphere. Thought plays a very 
important part in manufacture here, but ours is not 
an entirely mental world. We can make things by 
other processes than thought, if we choose to do so, 
and many on coming here would not be happy in doing 
purely mental work. It would be no good trying to 
make a builder into an architect immediately he 
arrived here ; he might be happy in building, but not 
in designing or making plans for others to carry out. 
One begins with the work for which one is fitted. 
Many women are happy making garments, but could 
not take places of responsibility. People are not on 
our sphere because they are more clever than those 
below them ; for there are very clever people on lower 
spheres. It is a question of goodness, of spiritual 
development. Some here are quite stupidly good, 
their every impulse is pure and good, yet they are 
quite incapable of organising or thinking clearly. 
Such people find more happiness in framing a picture 
or covering a chair than they could do in teaching or 
in caring for newcomers. The latter duties would be 
less tasteful to them than manual work. 


On my sister remarking that she was living in her 



Occupations in the Life Beyond Death 157 

father's home, my mother put a question relating to 
housework. Etta explained that it must not be thought 
that she had to attend to the multifarious details associated 
with housekeeping on earth; with them the home was a 
place to which one invited friends, and where social meetings 
were arranged; home-life was still a habit, and had its 
uses and pleasures. 


G.D.T.: I imagine that where you live all have a desire 
to know more and more and are ever adding to their 
knowledge. 

Father: Some do not seem eager for great knowledge; at 
least, not for a long while after coming here. For a 
time they seem satisfied, but at length all are drawn 
upward. Of course, many of them have useful work 
to do on my sphere, work which satisfies and interests 
for a time. The higher knowledge is not acquired all 
at once, it takes time. Many here are doing good work 
and have no desire as yet for higher knowledge which 
might even distract them from their present work. 
But it is only a question of time ; they will presently 
feel the appetite for the higher things. The lesser 
things are both useful and necessary until one develops 
mentally and spiritually; remember how children 
outgrow their toys. 

We have books, and people who delight in making 
them very much as do authors on earth. Perhaps we 
do not read quite so much as you do ; because we are 
now able to converse personally with the authors. 
We sometimes listen to good authors. Hearing them 
speak gives an even better idea than we should 
gain from their books. Still, we have the books and 
there are libraries. In those libraries are many books 
which have never been published on the earth. 

(Following on this were remarks to the effect that 
earthly authors were sometimes inspired by minds in the 
spheres). 

My father on another occasion said that, among other 



158 Occupations in the Life Beyond Death 

things, he was studying psychic laws and principles ; also 
teaching groups of people; that he had always been 
interested in collecting facts and that it had been an 
ambition of his on earth to express them clearly and well; 
he was now able to revel in that work. My mother, who 
was present at this sitting, inquired if he remembered 
anything of the table-games they used to play together. 
He replied:— 

“ Yes, wait until you come over here, when perhaps 
you will find yourself playing them yet better.” 

My mother expostulated at the idea of games beyond 
death, upon which he added:— 

“I think you will find yourself playing them 
again.” 

From what has been said by different communicators it 
is evident that they wish it to be understood that games 
are by no means excluded from the activities of their new 
life. The younger among them allude to outdoor recrea¬ 
tions such as they used to enjoy while here. 


Etta: Ours is such a wonderful life in comparison to that 
lived on earth. Nothing I could say through this 
channel would give you any idea that was comparable 
to the reality. It is so much more wonderful, bright 
and enjoyable than we can express. 

Etta tells of helping in what on earth would be termed 
a mission; an organised system for dealing with people 
who have no near friends to welcome them ; also with those 
who, having disbelieved in any future life, for some time 
after their arrival deem themselves to be dreaming. 

At the close of a particularly long and interesting sitting, 
during which my father had controlled for seventy-eight 
minutes, he remarked:— 

" I often enjoy other occasions when you are at 
home and unaware that I am with you.” 



Occupations in the Life Beyond Death 159 

Two years later he made some illuminating remarks about 
his ability to share my thoughts. He drew a distinction 
between the occasions when he actually came to me, and 
the times when he was en rapport with me without coming 
to earth. He explained that, in the latter case, he would 
more easily get my subconscious thoughts, whereas, if 
present with me, my conscious thoughts would be more 
easily received by him. He further added that this 
difference depended upon the condition he assumed; that 
whereas in his own sphere he was in " the subconscious or 
all-conscious plane of thought,” on coming to earth he 
changed for the time being into “ a conscious plane of 
thought.” The difference, he added, was not easy for me 
to grasp, but it was very real. By practice he had become 
able to interpret my thought from a distance, and con¬ 
sidered that, nine times out of ten, he would get my 
thoughts as correctly as if he were in the room with me. 

If this be so, then it is clear that in so far as our friends 
acquire this faculty, one of the interests of their life will 
be to observe the growth in character, and ability for 
service, of those on earth for whose coming they wait with 
anticipation. 



CHAPTER XV 


THE INTERPRETER OR CONTROL 

This chapter is followed at intervals by others with aspects 
of the process involved in communication through Mrs. 
Leonard. It is probable that the underlying principles 
apply more or less to trance mediums generally. The 
subject is obscure and awaits further study. 

The chapters referred to are the following :— 

XVII. The Modus Operandi of Trance Communication. 

XIX. Informing the Control. 

XXI. Voicing the Message. 

XXIII. Direct Control. 

XXV. The Difficulty of transmitting Names in Psychic 
Messages. 

XXVII. The Influence of the Sitter. 

Any contribution towards elucidation of trance methods 
should be of interest, not only to those who share my 
certainty that we are dealing with the mental activities of 
the discamate, but also to those who favour alternative 
views. For, whatever may be the origin of the messages, 
it may be confidently assumed that they are produced in 
accordance with law, which is observable in their charac¬ 
teristic imperfections, and frequent failure to make plain 
what is obscurely hinted, as well as in their correct 
statements about matters unknown to medium or sitter. 

The following attempt to make the process intelligible is 
supported by copious quotations. In these we have the 
explanation of their origin given by the messages them¬ 
selves. 

Where the communicators refer to “ the subconscious 
mind/' and to “ the etheric brain/' I think they are 
attempting to explain what they experience in themselves 

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The Interpreter or Control 161 

and observe in others. Like ourselves, they labour under 
the disadvantage of having no uniformly accepted terms 
in which to clothe their ideas about the subtle distinctions 
that exist in mental states. Some readers may perhaps 
think that the fairly obvious shades of meaning might 
have been expressed in words more psychologically precise. 
If so, I trust they may find it possible to paraphrase to 
themselves the sense of the quotations in language less 
open to criticism. 

Those who have read Lady Grey of Fallodon’s book. 
The Earthen Vessel (John Lane, Publisher), will be already 
familiar with the name of Feda. As the name constantly 
appears in these chapters it may be well to speak of her 
more fully at this point. 

While studying the literature of psychical research, 
during the period before my personal investigations 
commenced, I was inclined to think that mediumistic 
controls were dream aspects of a medium’s own mind, or 
even instances of secondary personality. Experience 
showed me that these hypotheses fail to meet the facts. 
The controls studied by me not only claimed to be distinct 
individuals, but were proved to be so by every test I 
could apply; never did slip or slightest indication warrant 
the supposition that they were other than the intelligent 
and self-possessed individuals they claimed to be. 

I have had the advantage of studying two controls— 
namely, my father and sister—from the day when they 
first became such by dispensing with Feda’s help and 
speaking to me directly through Mrs. Leonard’s lips. I 
have observed their early efforts at using the medium’s 
organism develop into free and intimate conversation. 
From them I have learnt the difficulties which a control 
must surmount before acquiring ease and certainty in this 
task. 

The hypothesis that “ Feda,” “ my father ” and “ my 
sister,” are but forms of Mrs. Leonard’s personality faiT<s 
to find, in my experience, any support; and I may add 
that this conclusion is in agreement with that of other 
sitters whose communicators have similarly learnt to play 
the part of temporary controls. 



162 The Interpreter or Control 

My father, my sister and Feda habitually refer to each 
other in a conversational way, just as anyone might speak 
of friends and fellow-workers. They allude to each other's 
characteristics, to their skill or limitation in communicating, 
and speak of knowing each other intimately in their life 
away from earth. 

One can hardly convey the impression received by these 
multiplied touches of reality; nor is it easy to explain 
one's reason for counting Feda among one's friends. 
But to many of us, Feda is indeed a familiar friend; and 
among the interests to which we look forward in the next 
life is the pleasure of meeting her, and seeing her as she 
really is. 

I know that direct evidence of Feda's individuality as 
something separate from Mrs. Leonard must, in the nature 
of the case, be difficult to obtain. But the following 
incidents should be placed on record. They supplement 
the evidence which some of Mrs. Leonard's sitters are said 
to have obtained when Feda has spoken to them through 
other mediums, giving information which was known to 
no one else in the circle, and which related to incidents in 
their private sittings with Mrs. Leonard. 

On March 18th, 1921, Feda told me, at the commence¬ 
ment of the sitting, that she had been to my home and had 
visited the study. While there she felt that someone who 
had been using it recently had left a totally different 
impression in the room from anything which she could 
assign to me, to my wife or to the maids. She said that 
she had felt as if entering a fog and that, as she had been 
to the room previously, she recognised it as something 
unusual. This was interesting, because a visitor had just 
left after a fortnight's stay with us and he had spent much 
of his time in the study. It was a friend who had come 
to England, suffering from severe nervous break-down. 
Wishing to lead Feda further in her description I put 
the following questions :— 

Q.D.T.: Was that feeling such as might have been caused 
by someone who was ill ? 

Feda: Yes, it made a weak, curious condition, a heavy 



The Interpreter or Control 163 

feeling. What was the “ M ” condition in that room ? 
Feda kept getting an impression of “ M.” 

C.D.T.: Did you get nothing more than one letter ? 

Feda: It was a name, but I only caught the “ M ” com¬ 
mencement of it. Do you know a “D" also con¬ 
nected with it ? This was not so clear. 

G.D.T.: That letter would be the initial of my name 
Drayton. 

Feda: Not at all; for I should have felt that more clearly. 
G.D.T.: Well, I'll ask when I get the opportunity. 

Feda: I think you'll have an opportunity. It felt funny 
to get other conditions in your room, foggy instead of 
bright. He did not hear Feda knock there, did he ? 
He would not have understood it if he had, but would 
have thought it was a mouse or something of that 
kind. 

The last sentence may fairly be taken as indicating that 
Feda realised that our visitor had been a man, that he was 
unacquainted with psychical literature, and that I should 
be seeing him again, all of which was correct. My friend 
shortly returned for a further visit, and I then elicited 
from him the following fact which had been entirely un¬ 
known to me. During his first visit he was worrying about 
his work and wishing that he might be reinstated on the 
staff of his old paper, the Manitoba Free Press . He had 
finally decided, while with us, that he would write about 
this to his old chief, Mr. Defoe, and he had actually written 
the letter after leaving our house. Feda's impression of 
names commencing with " M ” and “ D," accord with this. 

When the above sitting ended Mrs. Leonard described 
her recent experience at a sitting for the direct voice where 
Feda had spoken to her, and asked her to let me know that 
she had been to my study and had sensed difficult con¬ 
ditions there. The message for me had ended with the 
sentence, “ Tell Mr. Drayton ' D' and ‘ M 

Thus Feda, when speaking at a direct voice sitting, sent 
me the message “ D and M," which she expanded at my 
next sitting. This is proof to me that it was the same 
person , i.e,, Feda, who spoke at both places. 



164 The Interpreter or Control 

My second story involves three people, a lady (previously 
mentioned chapter XI.), who writes in the Journal of the 
Society for Psychical Research under the pseudonym of 
Mrs . Drummond , a clergyman and myself. Mrs. Drum¬ 
mond, while sitting with Mrs. Leonard on April nth, 1922, 
was told by Feda that a stray cat or kitten had been found 
and needed a home. At my sitting, seventeen days later, 
Feda spoke to me about this animal and I offered to find 
someone who might be willing to take it. At about this 
date, the clergyman was attending a voice sitting else¬ 
where at which Feda spoke. He tells me that, having sat 
with Mrs. Leonard several times, he was familiar with 
Feda's manner and diction, and that he had no doubt that 
it was really Feda who then, in direct voice, talked of cats 
and her wish that people would be kinder to them. 

A month later, I was again at Mrs. Leonard's and 
reported to Feda that, having failed to find any other home 
for the animal I would take it myself. Two days after this , 
Mrs. Drummond was in Hampshire receiving table messages 
from her son, who frequently speaks to her through Feda 
and Mrs. Leonard. Among his other messages he gave 
the information, “ Feda s kitten has found a home." 

At this date I was unacquainted with the clergyman and 
it was two months later when we first met. In recounting 
his psychic experiences he touched on Feda's mannerisms, 
and happened to mention her coming to the above voice 
sitting. Some time later, while I was telling Mrs. Drum¬ 
mond of this, she recollected her son's remark, “ Feda's 
kitten has found a home," and promised to look up its 
exact date. I was thus able to establish the above sequence 
which culminates in the interesting fact that Feda and her 
concern for kittens was vouched for by Mrs. Drummond's 
communicator, not through Mrs. Leonard, but when Mrs. 
Drummond was alone in her own home. 

Feda's mannerisms, when speaking for herself, clearly 
distinguish her from the communicators. In quotations 
throughout this book I have not retained her peculiarities 
of grammar, except on the rare occasions when these may 
serve a purpose. And it is most noticeable how her 
eccentric English disappears when she purports to repeat 



The Interpreter or Control 165 

the speaker's actual phrases. One often finds her, then, 
using words and speaking correctly about subjects which 
are, to all appearance, beyond her understanding, although 
perfectly natural as coming from the person for whom they 
are said to be transmitted. 

For these and other reasons I accept Feda as being an 
individual quite distinct from the medium through whom 
she speaks. 



CHAPTER XVI 


" ORDER IS HEAVEN'S FIRST LAW” 

G.D.T.: Can you tell me anything about the government 
of your sphere ? 

Etta: There is a government, but not one which limits 
and restricts; it is more in the nature of an inquiry 
bureau to which one can apply for advice and guidance 
when needing it. 

There will be an area which corresponds in general 
to a county. In this is one of these bureaux. It is 
managed by a band of experienced people who have 
been here for some considerable time, and who do not 
belong wholly to our sphere, but return periodically 
for work. They know exactly where the newly 
arrived are most likely to make mistakes. As you 
know, on our sphere a mental call is easily heard. Let 
us suppose that someone has been here only a short 
time, say one of your weeks, and desires to visit some 
acquaintance who is in another condition of life. 
Well, he would not know how to set about it. He 
would probably discuss the matter with his friends 
and these might be uncertain whether or not it was 
advisable for him to go. In that case they would most 
probably ask at the bureau. The result might be that 
two guides, selected by these higher spirits, would take 
the applicant to the place he wished to visit, safe¬ 
guarding him so that he neither came to harm nor did 
harm. I can give a concrete instance; there was a 
man who ardently wished to return to earth and make 
himself visible to his wife who was somewhat psychic¬ 
ally endowed; he wished to show her that he was 
really alive and that he had a body. But one of his 
relations here felt strongly that it would be an un¬ 
wise proceeding. So they went to the bureau and 



“ Order is Heaven's First Law ” 167 

discussed it there. Two experienced guides were sent 
with them to the place on earth where the widow lived. 
They at once realised that the shock of grief had 
reduced her to so nervous a condition that her mind 
might be upset by an apparition. And so the man 
was advised to refrain from taking advantage of his 
wife’s mediumistic powers to show himself, and rather 
to endeavour to impress her to overcome the grief, 
and to dwell on thoughts of his undying love. This he 
did. Had there been no guidance given him, he 
might have done otherwise and thereby made her 
condition worse. 

Helpers from the bureau are ready to advise as to 
the first steps in this new life, suggesting suitable 
forms of activity to those who are at a loss to know 
what they can do. Also, they introduce to friends 
those who arrive here having none of their own—as 
is sometimes the case with young people. 

I would not call this a government, however; it is 
not quite that. 

C.D.T.: Do you think that your bureau is under guidance 
from a still higher one ? 

Etta: Yes, and that higher one is under guidance from one 
still higher, and so upward. As the teaching comes 
down it grows more individual. The nearer its source, 
the more impersonal is its form. 

C.D.T .; Would you say that the higher bureaux deal with 
general principles, while those nearer earth apply 
these principles in detail ? 

Etta: Just so. Suppose that from a higher sphere the 
thought is sent out that the poor in a certain place, 
London, for instance, should be almost immediately 
assisted in some special way. This goes forth in the 
form of an impersonal message urging charity and 
help to those needing it. As this message comes down¬ 
ward through the spheres it gains in individuality, 
until, upon my sphere, it would be caught by those 
who, while on earth, had been in touch with London 
and its conditions, possibly by some who still have 
friends living there in poverty. The next step will 



168 “ Order is Heaven's First Law ” 

be that promptings to help the poor are given strongly 
to your earth, probably to social workers and chari¬ 
table persons who then become impressed with the 
idea that something should be done. No name was 
given in the message, as it originated on the higher 
sphere, but when someone on earth eagerly responds 
with heart and soul to the impression, we pass word 
upward telling what is being done and who is doing 
it. And so, as it goes upward the impersonal has 
become personal. Then a thought-current is sent 
downward again to the person, or persons, who are 
working out the mission on earth. One cannot do 
good without its being known in the higher spheres, 
particularly when one is carrying out an inspiration 
towards practical service. 

C.JD.T.: I suppose government takes a different form on 
lower planes ? 

Etta: Yes, there it is really government. When one is 
fitted only for a low plane, no amount of desire to be 
on a higher or more beautiful one would suffice to take 
one there. The habit of life on earth decides, and not 
any chance desire. If a man has qualified for a lower 
sphere, he will find himself there, and he cannot get 
away from it. That is just and right, and it saves a 
vast amount of supervision. According as the soul 
moulds itself while in the body, so it decides the place 
to which it must go on leaving the body. Those who 
simply live in the physical senses find themselves 
exceedingly limited on leaving earth. We wish such 
people understood the facts, so that they might realise 
how fatally unwise and short-sighted is their manner 
of life. 

On a later occasion I questioned my father:— 

O.D.T.: Can you tell me something more about the 
organisation or governing of your world ? 

Father: On the higher spheres there is the perfect operation 
of Divine law or principle. The people do not need 
keeping in order. They are nearer to the actual 



“ Order is Heaven's First Law ” 169 

governing court, or seat of activity, and therefore can 
see the perfect workings of law. As one descends to 
lower spheres the law seems to work less perfectly, 
until, on earth, man's action thwarts it, resists it, and 
seems to evade it for a time. Hence, you cannot on 
earth see so much of the spiritual organisation, or 
working of the law, as is seen on the higher spheres. 
The system is wonderful. 

Suppose that on a high sphere it was deemed 
desirable to have a gathering to discuss and determine 
instructions for a lower sphere about some important 
movement, instructions intended for handing down 
even so far as earth. The time arrives when certain 
souls should gather together. Who is to call them ? 
No one. The law brings them together, call it law 
of love, of service, it brings them together automatic¬ 
ally; for people there respond to these principles 
which are God's Will and therefore the law. Do not 
take this simply in the religious sense, I am speaking 
of it as a fact; for God's Will is a law as immovable, as 
real, or even more so, than gravity or any other law 
you might name. This Will is for the good of the whole 
universe, and upon the highest sphere of each planet 
it is felt and interpreted. 

So, it is not a government by a body of people on 
the highest sphere ; it is government direct from God. 
On the highest sphere the highest is Our Lord. The 
Spirit and Will of God manifest through Him. He 
is the living symbol of the Will of God for our 
planet. 

Now, all those who are on that sphere are attuned 
to the Will of God, or they would not be there. They 
interpret that Will. On such an occasion as I am 
describing, when a meeting is to be called, no messages 
are sent out. The very fact that it is necessary for 
certain people to draw together for consultation seems 
to collect them. You see them coming from different 
directions to the one place. They are obeying the 
call. It is not more wonderful to them to obey 
voiceless messages than for you to answer a telephone 



170 “ Order is Heaven's First Law u 

call, which to our ancestors would have seemed an 
outstanding miracle. 

I was once conducting a band of young men who 
were to see Our Lord. We were met on the seventh 
sphere by advanced spirits who had left earth ages 
ago. I remember, on arriving there, being amazed to 
see these others coming from different directions and 
meeting us at the same place and moment. All were 
exact to time. They told me that they had known of 
our coming, that they had felt the time had arrived, 
although they had received no message about it. 

Now, I think that they can there see the whole of 
things, the complete plan; while only small portions 
of it are handed out to you and to me. If the whole 
plan were given you at once, you would probably be 
dazzled, confused, weighed down by it. On those 
high spheres it is difficult for them to explain to me 
how they know things, because they can comprehend 
the whole, and although they are no longer in close 
touch with detail, yet detail is attended to by them; 
for they do perfectly what they undertake. 

Etta : I should like to attempt an illustration of that. You 
know that anyone who learns to play some instrument 
does it with difficulty at first and slowly. He knows 
how he moves his fingers because he moves them so 
slowly. But an expert pianist plays most intricate 
things without being consciously aware which notes 
particular fingers are touching each moment. He sees 
the music more as a whole, he does not need to plod 
through each detail, he is interpreting. He might not 
be able to answer your question if you inquired 
whether his thumb was upon C, and his third finger 
on F; he does not think about his fingers and their 
position, because he is interpreting the whole. Thus, 
he might be less able than some beginners to tell you 
those details. What father means is that on the higher 
spheres they k-n-o-w. It is not reasoning, but 
something higher. 

Father: Etta is right; there is a higher sense—Intuition. 
Some call it Conscience, others Instinct—the sense of 



“ Order is Heaven's First Law ” 171 

knowing without having to trouble to find out how 
one knows. That is the form of government on highei 
spheres. It is a system of knowing. People do not 
leap into that sphere from a much lower one; they 
develop to it by gradual stages. Therefore, on reaching 
it, you are fitted and ready to know, to govern and to 
be governed by knowing. You can help govern those 
below you because you know the law and can submit 
to be governed by the law yourself. 

On our third sphere we have a system more akin to 
that of your world, though I would scarcely term it 
compulsory government. But people are encouraged 
to do certain things which are best for them and 
dissuaded, or even forbidden, to do others. For, you 
see, among those who come to our sphere many have 
but little knowledge, although they have all done their 
best according to their lights. Such require some 
degree of governing, or they might try to do various 
things which were bad for them, even if from good 
motives. So we have Advisory Courts or Bureaux. 
Someone may wish to help a friend on earth in an 
undesirable course ; another may want to engage in a 
kind of work which will teach him nothing. Such 
cases are brought before an Advisory Court. As a 
rule these courts deal with those who have been here 
but a short time. There is no forcing, no compulsion ; 
for that is not necessary here as it is in your world. 
But after advice has been given, should a person 
insist on doing the contrary thing, guides would be 
sent to see that the person did as little harm as 
possible, and that not for long. 


L.B.1). 


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CHAPTER XVII 


THE MODUS OPERANDI OF TRANCE COMMUNICATION 

During my private sittings with Mrs. Osborne Leonard, 
only the medium is visible and the words spoken come 
from her lips. But everything points to the presence 
of two unseen persons who co-operate with the 
medium. 

One of these inferred presences is a practised transmitter 
of messages. This is Feda, the control; the other pre¬ 
sence originates them, and is termed the communicator. 
Chief among the communicators who thus come to speak 
to me are my father and sister, and as they have endea¬ 
voured to explain the process of communication I shall 
quote freely from their words. 

They say that their messages pass to Feda in the form of 
thought and that Feda then transmits them by means of 
the medium's lips. 

Very illuminating are their allusions to these processes. 
Should Feda and my father meet in their own realms of 
life they exchange thought with ease, either by words or 
by the more speedy method of mental intercourse. But 
immediately they come into the conditions strictly essential 
for trance communication, intercourse between them 
becomes difficult. 

Reception of thought is complicated for Feda, because 
she merges her personality with that of the medium. 
Only by this temporary merging is Feda able to speak 
through the medium's lips, yet it is precisely this blend 
which causes her difficulty in catching my father's thoughts. 
When away from the medium, Feda can receive unerringly, 
but cannot transmit; when merged with the medium 
Feda can transmit, but finds it hard to receive. Her 
position is then somewhat similar to that of a medium 

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The Modus Operandi of Trance Communication 173 

who, without going into trance, tries to receive by clair- 
audience the messages of an unseen speaker. These 
mediums, who remain normal can, of course, easily speak 
that which they “ hear/' but Feda's only means of pro¬ 
ducing speech is by utilising a brain and vocal organs 
belonging to another person. 

Feda's work therefore is twofold; first, to understand 
the messages which are transmitted to her telepathically, 
and, secondly, to effect their accurate expression in words. 

My father also, like Feda, has difficulties to overcome. 
For, on entering the conditions of a sitting, his memory 
divides into its former earthly condition of conscious and 
subconscious. Much which he had intended to say may 
remain in the subconscious portion of his mind, where it is 
not available for use. This division of mind and memory 
constitutes one of the greatest obstacles which beset 
communicators. They are frequently checked for want of 
a word or fact which they know that they possess, but 
which at the moment is not available. Further, this split 
in memory may deprive them of access to those very facts 
which their friends on earth have difficulty in believing 
could, under any circumstances, be forgotten. The 
inexperienced investigator is naturally puzzled when his 
friend purports to be speaking, and yet seems to have 
forgotten either his name or his place of birth, or some 
familiar incident. 

Communicators are able to give many evidential details 
in the course of an ordinary sitting, but it is often per¬ 
turbing to discover how very much they would seem to 
have forgotten. When the schoolmaster cannot spell, 
and the purist stumbles in grammar, their friends naturally 
are chilled by doubt. 

As we shall presently see from their own words, com¬ 
municators are often embarrassed by a temporary forget¬ 
fulness arising from divided consciousness. Some of them 
make a practice of preparing their messages beforehand 
so as to lessen the likelihood of forgetting. Yet, obviously, 
this precaution cannot help them in replying to questions. 
The information demanded may, or may not, be in their 
recollection at the moment; and even when present, and 



174 The Modus Operandi of Trance Communication 

successfully transmitted to Feda, it may yet fail to be 
spoken accurately by the medium. 

There is a further prolific source of trouble. This is the 
continual variation of the psychic emanation surrounding 
the medium. Its fluctuations are comparable to that of 
the wind, so that what is possible at one moment becomes 
impossible at another. This calls for skill and discern¬ 
ment in its use, such as only long practice can ensure. 

When Feda has latitude in the selection of words, her 
task is lightened; for if some words will not pass, she 
can employ others which the medium’s brain will accept. 
But there is no such alternative where proper names are 
involved. It must then be the right name or nothing. 
Not infrequently an important sentence turns upon a 
specific word, and that one word may be as great an 
obstacle as a name. Sometimes it gets through at the 
first attempt. But if not, Feda may vainly try to achieve 
its correct expression. Her very anxiety defeats her 
chance of success. 

In golf the bunkers on the links are stationary and visible 
to the players; in trance communication the bunkers are 
not only unseen, but in perpetual movement. Hence the 
many checks encountered as a sitting progresses. The 
communicator and Feda are playing their ball amidst 
obstacles, while the sitter being unaware of these, wonders 
at the pauses, circumlocutions and failures. 

The force in use being that of thought, it is easy to 
understand that a strong cross-current from the sitter may 
block or side-track communicator or control. It may 
neutralise the efforts of the former, or cause the latter to 
mistake the sitter’s thought for that of the communicator. 
In the latter case, Feda combines the two streams of thought 
into a welter of incoherent ideas. 

Some communicators have learnt to dispense with Feda’s 
services and to impress their thoughts directly upon the 
brain of the medium. But a communicator, while in this 
direct personal control, is still limited by his divided 
memory. Besides which, he is, to some extent,, pre¬ 
occupied by the care required in operating the medium’s 
brain. Practice is essential. The progress shown by my 



The Modus Operandi of Trance Communication 175 

father and sister is evidence of this. They both attribute 
their increased facility to a careful study of the various 
difficulties, as well as to their frequent opportunities for 
practice in speaking with me. 

As one of them said :— 

“ We learn by these experiences, and are beginning 
to see why and where we fail." 



CHAPTER XVIII 


ENHANCED POWERS AND HAPPINESS 

Father: We do not need holidays. Our life is a feast of 
work; not a labour, but a feast, more enjoyable than 
any holiday. 


The following extracts refer to Etta at periods ranging 

from six months to six years after passing :— 

Six months after :— 

Etta: It seems incredible to me that I can have been away 
from earth so long. With us time flies so fast that 
months seem short as days. I am no longer surprised 
that people around me find it easy to await the coming 
of their friends. 

Father : It is delightful having Etta here. She finds this 
life even more interesting than she had anticipated, 
and she is very happy. 

Two years after :— 

Father: I wish it were possible for you to see Etta now, 
not merely to console yourself, but to see how extra¬ 
ordinarily and keenly happy she is. 

Three years after:— 

Etta : My life with father is so interesting and wonderful. 
It seems curious now to look back on the comparatively 
narrow life that engrossed me while on earth. I 
should not care to return now, even were that possible; 
I should not welcome it for myself, though I should be 
glad if you and the others could see me. This is 
such an interesting life; and I think the fact that I 
studied psychic matters and learnt something about 
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Enhanced Powers and Happiness 177 

this life while on earth makes it even more interesting 
to me now. 

Four years after :— 

G.D.T.: Do you find life broadening out for you as time 
goes on ? 

Etta: Yes, the four years since I passed over have gone 
very quickly and very happily. I grow more conscious 
of the wonderful things around me, things of which I 
was not wholly conscious at first. For instance, my 
range of sight and of hearing, as well as my under¬ 
standing, is constantly increasing. All is there from 
the first, but one has to grow in ability to understand. 
A little child has around him all the things which are 
around you, but his power of appreciation has to be 
developed. 

Six years after:— 

Etta: We lead such a wonderful life compared with that 
on earth. Nothing I could say through this channel 
would give you any adequate idea of its reality. It is 
so much more wonderful, bright and enjoyable than 
we can express. 


It is often asked how those above can be happy if they 
are aware of the tribulations through which their friends 
on earth are passing. Here is Etta's explanation :— 

“ When we speak of being worried or unhappy about 
things on earth you must not suppose that we our¬ 
selves are made unhappy. Certainly we are sorry, but 
nothing happening on earth can make us unhappy in 
the life yonder. We sympathise, but we also see the 
aim and the end. On earth people struggle on, and 
the end seems far away and even uncertain; but we 
have attained it. 

After an interval of two years Etta again referred to 
this. She said:— 



178 Enhanced Powers and Happiness 

“ I am not worried about anything, but am happy 
in my own life. Although aware that all sorts of 
worries come to friends on earth, yet I am so sure of 
the ultimate good of it all, that I can be happy while 
awaiting future reunion with them. 


C.D.T.: Can you explain to me how you recall your 
memories ? 

Father: On our own sphere we do not recall memory 
because it is present. All is upon the one page. 
Past is present in that sense with us. It is impossible 
to forget anything ; not that we are always looking at 
the past, but it is there for us to read in our memory. 
It is there without any striving for it. 

C.D.T.: You would not experience that memory as vividly 
as when the event had just happened ? 

Father: I could do so if I wished, by an act of will. 

C.D.T.: Then one might almost live over again the 
happiest scenes of earth life ? 

Father: Yes, we can and do. It is especially wonderful 
and beautiful when two recall such things together. 
On earth you may meet an old friend and expect 
pleasure in talking over old times with him, but find 
that it is less pleasurable than you had anticipated; 
his mind does not always recall the things which most 
interested you, while he has considered as being 
important certain matters which did not interest you 
at all. But here we remember the whole completely, 
and this makes a tremendous difference. 

Father ; lam convinced (for I have never heard anything 
to the contrary) that as we progress we retain our 
individuality. We do not lose self, we only perfect 
it. We perfect it to so high a degree that it is a 
blessing to be oneself. While we grow more and 
more selfless we lose nothing of ourself that is good. 
This does not imply that all will attain to one uniform 
type ; they will retain each their own peculiarities, 
so far as these are not harmful. For example, it is 



Enhanced Powers and Happiness 179 

right for Etta to be impulsive, quicker and more 
excitable than most; she will keep that characteristic, 
but will always use it wisely, rightly and perfectly. 
But on earth there is an idea held by some that we 
shall eventually be submerged in some ocean of spirit. 
No, no. We can become allied with the source of 
power and wisdom, but never submerged. “ In His 
own image He made man,” and in His own image He 
keeps man. 

Alluding to a friend and the possibility of bringing her to 
communicate with me, they said:— 

“ We will send out a mental invitation. It is 
quite easy to do. The person receiving it can accept 
or refuse at pleasure.” 

C.D.T.: Does such invitation always reach the one for 
whom it is meant 

“ Nearly always; that is, if it is right that it should 
reach them. You see, there is a law which acts auto¬ 
matically; should a thing not be right for us, it 
could not happen on our sphere, even though we tried 
by thought to bring it about. So that, if it does not 
come to pass, we are not disappointed, knowing that 
its happening would interfere with higher and more 
important plans. We are unable to create conditions 
on our sphere which are not the best for us. So that 
if it is right for your friend to come here she will 
receive my mental invitation.” 

Note .—At a subsequent sitting I had a long conversation 
with the lady in question. 


I asked my father and Etta to give some description of 
the greater powers of body and mind which they now 
experience. 


Father: It is important to make known the added powers 



180 Enhanced Powers and Happiness 

of average people like ourselves; it will make for a 
better understanding and appreciation of the after 
life. Many on earth fear that on leaving their body 
they will be less complete than at present; their 
physical body seems so essential that the idea of being 
detached from it suggests a sense of loss, of being less 
well off than before. But such an idea is entirely 
wrong. The unseen body has a real existence all the 
time you are in the physical body, and it has much 
greater power when freed therefrom. While in the 
physical body its power is small, because your per¬ 
sonality functions in the physical body. But you 
live in your spiritual body during sleep, and in 
moments of inspiration, or prayer. 

When your soul is freed from its earthly body it 
finds itself living in one that is similar, but which has 
indeed added powers of feeling and of movement. 
I wish to emphasise that not only am I surrounded by 
greater beauty and happiness, but that my powers of 
appreciation are greatly expanded. You know how 
one used to walk past beautiful flowers, and grand 
sights, without seeing all that was in them; we are 
able to see the complete beauty. In short, our powers 
are a thousand times greater than yours. 

O.D.T.: Do you really mean a thousand times ? 

Father: Yes, incalculably more; one cannot exactly say 
how many times greater. Etta will be very glad to 
give you her views. She is enthusiastic, just as she 
was when on earth. 

Etta : You ask me to tell you something about our powers 
here. For one thing, we have complete control over 
both mind and body, a complete control. It is 
astonishing how little control we really had when on 
earth. The contrast impresses me immensely on 
coming here. On earth the mind has some degree of 
control over body and health ; a bending of the mind 
to one's task, and a determined cheerfulness under 
difficulties, can accomplish a good deal. But here our 
body is perfect, perhaps on account of the mind's 
perfect control over it. 



Enhanced Powers and Happiness 181 

Our emotions also are under the control of mind. 
Suppose I see something which makes me indignant. 
I feel the indignation, but should not lose my temper 
or neglect anything I happened to have in hand. I 
should register the emotion, but should not dwell upon 
it. And so likewise with sorrow, I may feel sorrow, 
but it does not hurt me. I have no sorrow for myself, 
but I do feel for others. When I realised that I had 
come here I felt sorrow for you all who were mourning 
my loss ; but that sorrow did not hurt me, because I 
did not dwell upon it in the sense of putting other 
things aside for it. I knew that I felt sorrow, I 
registered the fact, but it makes all the difference when 
the mind has complete control. 

Another of our powers is that of realising the great 
happiness of love for our friends on earth without the 
old craving for their immediate companionship. I 
have not that craving, but always the consciousness 
that one would not be away from them were it not 
right. I think it is the complete consciousness 
of being in one's right place which overcomes all such 
personal desires and griefs. 

On earth, even in sorrow, there comes the moment 
of enlightenment in which you know that all is right; 
for the moment you feel it, although you revert to the 
old sadness afterwards. Contact with the ordinary 
conditions of life brings back the former sadness. Yet, 
in that momentary flash, you experience the kind of 
consciousness which is always ours here. It would be 
incorrect to say that I long and crave to have contact 
with earth. Rather say that when I have this oppor¬ 
tunity of talking with you it brings me an added 
happiness. We think more and more of our friends 
as we progress in our upward life. The only occasion 
when we should not be permitted to engross our 
thought with friends on earth would be when any of 
them selfishly attempted to compel us to do so. Not 
many would do that. It is a thing to avoid, and may 
as well be stated by way of warning. Opportunities 
should be given us, but it is useless to try and compel 



182 Enhanced Powers and Happiness 

O.D.T.: Am I right in saying that no one could possibly 
compel you to come to them ? 

Etta: Compulsion is quite impossible. Yet, you will 
easily understand that the very knowledge that 
someone was there on earth, longing and appealing, 
would not add to our happiness here. But so far as 
friends refrain from that attempt to compel us, we are 
able to help them more and more; for we can get 
closer and closer to them. 

Yet another of our powers is that of realising the 
rightness of everything. On earth one so frequently 
resented and lamented the wrong seen all around; 
whereas, if we but tried to improve and set right, so 
far as we could influence matters, it would be the 
better course. Here we are always building up and 
never dwell upon regrets. I am, of course, speaking 
of our own sphere. On lower spheres there is regret; 
it is the penalty. Just as my added powers of mind 
enable me to realise that it is waste of time to idly 
regret the past, so do the dwellers on lower spheres 
come to realise that it is right and useful to regret, 
because only by consciousness of what was wrong in 
their lives can they rise to what is better. 

Our happiness here is extraordinary; it is beyond 
any description that I could give you. 

C.DT.; And are you aware of events happening at a 
distance from you ? 

Etta: There is what father terms " telescopic vision/* 
We are not always seeing what happens at a distance. 
My range of vision is little more than it was on earth, 
though the clearer atmosphere makes it easier to see. 
For events taking place two hundred miles away we 
can employ a special vision not in constant use. We 
can use it whenever we choose, but it is no more 
necessary to employ these special powers of vision, 
than it is for you to concentrate minutely upon trifles. 
There are times for the lighter touch, and times for 
the deeper attention. 

G.D.T .; It seems to suggest clairvoyance. 

Etta: It is clairvoyance, and we have clairaudience upon 



Enhanced Powers and Happiness 183 

similar lines. At first I was unable to employ it, 
but I can now hear what you say while quite far off. 
Father informs me that I get the sense only, yet it 
seems to me exactly as though I hear it, even to the 
actual tone of your voice. 

Note .—The remainder of this conversation dealt with 
Etta’s description of the varying degrees in which she 
could see me, and the objects around me, as I worked in 
my study. I gathered that, in her opinion, the object 
most easily seen was the etheric or psychic body and 
that from this there emanated an etherial light which, to 
her vision, served to illuminate surrounding objects; but 
that, as a rule, inanimate objects were less easily seen than 
were people. 


C.D.T.: When you are away from here and in the spirit 
world as usual, do you speak with others by thoughts 
or by words ? 

Father: Either way; by words if we wish, or by pro¬ 
jecting our thoughts. But there is more privacy, 
because the thoughts are only projected at will. It is 
as when two walk together in the country and both 
may be admiring the scenery silently till one says, 
“ Look at that,” and designedly attracts the attention 
of the other to some object. Then they see it as you 
see it. This is easier than doing it by words. 

C.D.T .: How do those talk with each other who on earth 
used different languages ? 

Father: Each speaks to others in the language that was 
his^ own, but the thoughts reach the mind of the 
recipient in the form familiar to him, and not as 
foreign words. 

Six years later my sister made a similar statement, 

viz.:— 


“ On our own sphere we could understand anything 
spoken by the Chinese, and the Chinese would 



184 Enhanced Powers and Happness 

understand us also; this is due to a sort ol 
automatic interpretation of the mind.” 

O.D.T.: I gather, from what you have told me, that it 
will be possible some day to re-enact all the brightest 
and best scenes of one’s earthly life. 

Father: Yes, and also those which one has missed on earth; 
all that which once was possible, but which did not 
come to fruition. When you come here you will find 
that which is difficult for me to express. You will 
realise the good of what you have done, and the- 
happiness which you had, and beyond that, also, the 
happiness which you might have had, and which, 
just because you might have had it, is still yours. 
This will include the things which were apparently 
taken from you, but which you let go willingly and not 
grudgingly; for those things you have made doubly, 
nay trebly, your own. 

CJD.T. : That sounds very beautiful. 

Father: On coming here you will find it is a fact. That 
which is given up willingly, or which you see taken 
from you, yet you do not waste time in repining 
over, you have made yours. Whereas, things which 
men pursue, seize on by force, are the things they 
lose. 

Etta once remarked:— 

“ On earth one interprets blindly the meaning of 
the Higher Will, and follows it as best one can; but 
we here can feel where one will have to follow next 
when the time ripens. 

My mother, while with me at a sitting, remarked that 
she thought at her age there could not be many more 
years left for her. 

Etta: I do not think there will be, mother; but it is 
wonderful to think that we can never really be 
separated/’ 



Enhanced Powers and Happiness 185 

After naming several relations who had passed over, 
she added:— 

“ They will all be there. It is quite true, mother, 
about ' the many mansions/ ” 

My mother quoted :— 

“ The thought of such amazing bliss should constant 
joys create.” 

Etta: It is amazing bliss ! The knowledge of it; should be 
spread ; for it is needed. 


O.D.T.; Do you not sometimes feel awed and almost 
terrified to think that you have now no boundary to 
your mental horizon ? On earth we limit our views 
by our years, and death is the boundary. You have 
none. 

Father: It is all so satisfying that one would be terrified 
to think it could come to an end. There are new 
possibilities and developments which one is always 
anxious to experience, and we know there is still more 
beyond. And always the happiness and peace which 
you cannot understand while on earth, because you 
cannot retain it, even if you feel it for a moment. 



CHAPTER XIX 


INFORMING THE CONTROL 

It is of interest to hear what the communicators themselves 
say of the way in which their thoughts are given to Feda, 
and how she, in turn, expresses them in speech. 

Father controlling . 

“ When I come here to speak, Feda is frequently 
puzzled as to my meaning and fails to catch it either 
quickly or accurately. That is when I am unable to 
make my meaning reach her in the form of words. 
If I then project a thought of some concrete object, 
Feda may remark, ‘ I see so-and-so/ but though she 
may seem to be seeing the object, it is really my 
thought of it which has reached her. 

Etta controlling. 

C.D.T.: How do you give your messages to Feda ? 

Etta: As a rule, when I give a message it goes by thought 
in blocks. Say that I wish to give, " I have been in 
a garden at home, lately/' I should not give it in 
bits, but in a complete thought first of all. Suppose 
she then asks me to give it again ; the first attempt is 
already imprinted on her mind, but not necessarily 
penetrating through to that part which is working 
upon the medium's brain. It is not lost, but she may 
take time in getting the thought through ; so I help 
by splitting up the sentence thus: " I have been in a 
garden ... at home . . . lately/' This permits her 
to get clearly any part which she had missed. Feda's 
mind usually follows what I give, and while getting the 
first and second parts of a thought she would be 
mentally asking, “ When ? Long ago ? Lately ? ” 



Informing the Control 187 

and that prepares the way for me to give the other 
portion of it. 

In the following remarks Feda describes the process from 
her point of view:— 

Feda. 

“ They try any way—feeling, seeing or hearing; but 
Feda finds feeling the easiest. They can suggest hot 
or cold, if the object they think of is metal. Much is 
done by suggestion* They can make Feda feel a 
thing is cold or hot, exactly as if she felt it with her 
fingers. You know how hypnotised people can be 
made to feel like that.” 

Feda. 

“ Feda used to make bad mistakes when they 
showed symbols, because she did not understand them. 
Suppose they showed her a cross, she would know now 
that they meant trouble. Until they explained what 
their symbols meant Feda used to get wrong over them. 
It is still difficult when new spirits show them, but 
experienced spirits often come with them to help and 
show what symbols to use. They use them when it is 
too much trouble to explain their meaning in words ; 
for there are times when Feda can see better than she 
can hear them.” 

Feda. 

“ -What * . . . Wait. . . Cannot hear you ... It 

is a nuisance. I was hearing him very well just then, 
but there is a vibration of voices coming now which 
mixes it all up. Can you shut the window ? 

This break came in the midst of an interesting passage 
which flowed with ease and accuracy. I then noticed, for 
the first time, a sound of voices in conversation outside the 
room where we were sitting. Two persons were talking 
on the lawn outside. I asked them to speak more softly, 
and closing the window, returned to my place. Feda then 
said:— 

L.B.D. 


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188 


Informing the Control 

“ It does not matter while your father talks mentally, 
but when he speaks in voice it does matter. Although 
you cannot hear his voice, it sounds like a real voice 
to Feda while in the medium, and it is more like your 
voice, because Feda listens to both of them from inside 
the medium. When controlling, Feda hears both the 
sitter’s and the communicator’s voices; not always 
equally well, but sometimes so. 

" Your father says that this is because Feda has a 
double set of instruments to work with—her own and 
the medium’s. He thinks these machines are occasion¬ 
ally interchangeable. He asks: ' Is it the medium's 
etheric brain or Feda’s brain which is used ? ’ Either 
can be used, and the same process does not hold good, 
even throughout one sitting.” 

During the early part of a sitting Feda had failed in 
giving the family name of my father’s old colleague, 
Benjamin Browne, although I had clearly recognised by 
the description, and the name Benjamin, that he was the 
person alluded to. 

We spent some time over it, and I went so far as to ask 
Feda whether the name wanted was not that of a colour ; 
but Feda was unable to put it through. Later, when my 
father was controlling, he said :— 

“ You must wonder what is doing when you ask 
for a simple name like Browne and I cannot give 
it.” 

G.D.T.: Was Browne the name you wanted Feda to say 
earlier in the sitting ? 

Father: Yes, and so I got it in here. I dropped the attempt 
till I could introduce it myself. 

Father controlling . 

“ I am not always aware what Feda says when in 
control. I am mentally following up what I am giving 
and so am not always noticing what she says. Thus, 
I am not clear as to whether she had given my thoughts 
rightly or wrongly. As when telephoning, if a slip is 



Informing the Control 189 

made you may not realise how it has been understood 
at the other end, and, not knowing that an error has 
occurred, you cannot rectify it.” 

Father . 

“ There is difficulty in introducing an entirely new 
topic, introducing it to the medium's brain and to 
Feda. I frequently prepare the ground by using words 
which lead up to my subject. Association of ideas 
is all-important. However, I am frequently able to 
broach an entirely new subject, and probably I find 
fewer difficulties than do most communicators.” 

Feda's part is beset with pitfalls which she does not 
always see. For example, she may not notice that the 
communicator has begun a new topic and’ she may then 
attach the second message to the tail of its predecessor. 
Sometimes neither communicator nor sitter notices that 
disconnected themes are being combined. 

Then sometimes Feda cannot grasp the idea which is 
being conveyed to her. Even when the conditions are so 
good that she seems to herself to hear the message in spoken 
words, some important part of a sentence may be missed, 
and the resulting impression which she transmits is in¬ 
accurate. More difficult still is it when Feda cannot 
receive the thought in the form of words, but catches only 
its general import. Omissions easily reduce a com¬ 
munication to chaos. Feda is perfectly aware of all this 
and has discussed her difficulties with me. 

There have been times when a fragmentary message has 
contained definite evidence that my father was aware of 
certain facts which he failed to convey to Feda in con¬ 
secutive and accurate form. In some instances I could see 
what it was he wished to tell me; it was clear that he 
knew more than he could make Feda understand. When 
he persisted in trying to explain, Feda made a long circum¬ 
locution ;♦ and if, for sake of experiment, I put leading 
questions, they only brought further proof that Feda 
could not understand something which was clear to my 
father and to me. 



r 90 Informing the Control 

Feda (addressing the communicator): I cannot get that 
... try again . . . (turning to me). Do you know, 
there are times when I hear him, really hear him, 
and yet get only muddled sounds, not properly formed 
sounds? He says it again, and if it does not get 
clearer he has to show it, or get it through in some 
other way. He does not always know when he has 
failed to make Feda hear, and goes on with it. Then, 
if asked to repeat, he may not know what part Feda 
has not heard, and then there is a muddle of mistakes. 

“ Feda cannot hear all he says all the time. Isn't 
it a nuisance ? Have to catch parts, like when many 
things are thrown at you and you catch what you can. 
Feda rarely hears all that is said.” 

” I think he wants Feda to understand something 
which he knows, but cannot quite get through to 
Feda.” 

G.D.T. : Can he not tell you plainly in words ? 

Feda: He could tell Feda, but Feda cannot hear. 

G.D.T . .* How is that ? 

Feda: Feda can hear part, and part not; is able to hear 
some of it to-day, but not all of it. People often 
wonder why there seem to be extraordinary gaps in a 
sitting, not natural sequences. A communicator has 
to break off and leave out something which he knows 
it would be hopeless or risky to try to get through. 
So that often a sitting seems disjointed, fragmentary. 

Feda ; Your father says that he may not be able to 
continue the present topic next time. 

C.D.T.: But cannot he plainly tell you it is coming ? 

Feda : He might plainly tell me, but I might not catch it. 
At nearly every sitting there is something which Feda 
knows she has not caught. It is like losing something 
and not being able to pick it up again. Communicators 
seem unable to repeat, or else it is that Feda can't 
catch the repetition. 



Informing the Control 191 

She tells me that, sometimes, a would-be communicator 
who though present at the sitting, has failed to attract her 
attention, will to some degree mingle his thoughts with the 
messages she is transmitting for someone else. In her 
opinion it is more likely to happen with communicators 
who are new to her, especially when there are several of 
them present; because, in these circumstances, it is difficult 
to know from whom the ideas come. 

It may be asked why my father does not give his messages 
to Feda before she enters into control. He tells me that 
he has tried this, but that the division of memory affects 
Feda quite as much as it affects himself. I have occasion¬ 
ally heard Feda in conversation with him during the short 
period of whispering which precedes her opening remarks. 
In these whispers I have caught references to topics which 
were presently introduced in the sitting. Feda tells me 
that this preparation helps her slightly by making it 
easier for her to catch the ideas again when they are 
projected to her later. 



CHAPTER XX 


MISCONCEPTIONS RECTIFIED AFTER DEATH 

G.D.T.: Many people of average good character seem to 
take no interest in Jesus Christ; do they quickly 
learn to do so on passing over ? 

Father: Their mind soon begins to open to thoughts of 
Him when once they know from experience that life 
continues after death. This opens up, in many 
instances, a whole line of ideas, and the next step is 
towards God. The very fact of their experiencing the 
reality of an after life brings to most people a certainty 
respecting God also. Question an atheist and he will 
probably say that he does not believe either in God 
or in a future life. All who become aware that they 
are actually in the life beyond death do open their 
mind to the possibility of God. It is not everyone who 
immediately accepts Jesus Christ, but they accept the 
fact of God. 

There are many good Buddhists, Mohammedans and 
others who, at first, are satisfied with their own 
conception of the Highest, whether as Buddha, Mo¬ 
hammed, or other, as the case may be. The idea of 
Jesus Christ does not at first appeal to them, but later 
it does. Naturally, people may say that I, being a 
Christian minister, am prejudiced. But on considera¬ 
tion of other religions it will be seen that their followers 
are unlikely to qualify for such high place as those who 
sincerely follow Christ; because their lives are 
generally influenced by practices which are neither 
good nor moral. 

G.D.T .; Then, whatever our creed, things which conduce 
to wrong conduct will have to be recognised as hin¬ 
drances to our progress. 

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Misconceptions Rectified after Death 193 

Father: Undoubtedly. People do not see the importance 
of their shortcomings as we see them. 

Q.D.T.: Do you still hold the doctrine of eternal punish¬ 
ment as it was understood and taught in your day ? 

Father: It was an error. All will have opportunity, and 
in time all will progress. 

G.D.T.: Is there a personal devil, as you used to teach ? 

Father: No, there is no organiser of evil, no individual 
spirit directing evil, no malignant force of personal 
evil. There are multitudes who pass over from earth 
in a sadly undeveloped condition, but the undeveloped 
soul of a person who lived a bad life on earth is a very 
different individuality from the traditional devil of 
popular imagination. You probably realise that 
many, whom you would term “ evil men,” become what 
they are through ignorance; neither mind nor character 
are developed. Of such it may be said, as Christ said 
of his murderers, " They know not what they do.” 
Theirs is not so much a calculated, determined, chosen 
attitude of opposition, as a state of blindness to the 
reality of God and goodness, a blindness which may 
indeed be culpable, but which is not a settled opposition 
to good. Such undeveloped souls are not devils in 
any other sense than a bad man on earth may be 
termed “ a devil.” No such unprogressed person has 
power over us or over you. Evil thoughts and habits 
might invite such a one but, even so, he cannot control 
you further than you may choose to act in accordance 
with his suggestions. 

While I admit that these unprogressed ones might 
suggest evil to men's minds, I say they have no power 
to force men in any way. I entirely disbelieve that 
any such forcing ever takes place. You may hear 
someone say, " I was compelled by some outside 
influence which was too strong for me.” But that is 
untrue. The man may have reacted to an evil 
suggestion, but it was not forced on him. People 
around can easily bring to bear on him much stronger 
suggestion than can any unprogressed spirits. Un¬ 
wholesome companions are more to be feared than any 



194 Misconceptions Rectified after Death 

who have left their earthly body; the latter can only 
use mental influence, while those on earth may employ 
for their ends not influence alone, but also money and 
alluring surroundings. Tempters in the body are ten 
times more dangerous than invisible tempters. 


Father: When I was on earth I do not think I thought 
consciously of communion with any other individual 
in the spirit world, but only of Our Lord. I feel now 
that it is a help when you have others who stand 
prominently in your mind; the link may be small, 
but it is important. I think that Etta and I, and 
perhaps some others also, act to you as waymarks. 
You know where you are with us. And so the road to 
Our Lord is made plainer. He would have us serve 
thus as landmarks on the upward way. Some people 
may think of their friends here as a goal, as if com¬ 
munication with them were an end in itself. I am 
inclined to think that communication may be a rather 
bad thing for those who use such a possibility of 
spiritual communication and yet make nothing 
spiritual of it. 

Some have talked about “ holding us back ^; it is 
not possible for you to hold us back; but we may be 
saddened and disappointed, which would, to some 
small degree, lessen our happiness. This might result 
from people regarding communication with us as an 
end in itself, rather than seeing in it a means of attain¬ 
ing something higher. 

C.D.T.: Can you mention other misconceptions which axe 
corrected on passing over ? 

Father: I should like to name especially the confusion of 
thought about acting from principle and acting from 
motive. Many, while on earth, were inclined to think 
that their conduct was right if only the motive was 
good, no matter what the result happened to be. But 
motives are not everything, they are like the walls of 
a house without foundations ; for in a life regulated 
only by a system of motives, one is always falling down 



Misconceptions Rectified after Death 195 

and rebuilding. On coming here one discovers that 
it is Principle that matters, and not motive. 

There is much confusion between principle and 
motive. But principle is the foundation of truth in 
conduct, and leads to sound knowledge about motives. 
Before we allow ourselves to respond to motives we 
need to be sure of our principles. Many a man comes 
here and finds that he has to account for something 
which he did when on earth, and rather prided himself 
on doing. He finds that it was not a good thing to 
have done, because it was not founded on right 
principles. What is " Doing evil that good may 
come ” ? It is acting with a good motive upon a bad 
principle. There is more misconception, perhaps, on 
that point than about anything else, save religion. 
It invades religion. Take the case of a savage who 
offers human sacrifices in the name of his god. He 
does it from a motive, a good motive. But that 
action in the name of his god is based upon a wrong 
principle. His ideas about his gods are wrong, 
although his motives are good. 

This is one of the reasons for missions to the heathen. 
I used to hear it said in some quarters that they ought 
not to be interfered with, that their own religion 
might be the best one for them. But we must en¬ 
lighten them when we see that their actions are 
founded on wrong principles. The Christian religion 
is above ah others, for it is founded on right principles. 
Consider only a few of its most prominent, love and 
justice, and I would like to add also knowledge, 
because Christianity gives and expands spiritual 
knowledge more than any other religion. So I say 
that our Christian religion is The One Religion, because 
it is founded on the strongest and best principles in 
the universe. Is there not, in nearly all other religions, 
something which we deplore, something which our 
sense of justice tells us is wrong ? But nothing in 
Christ's way of living can be called wrong, even by 
those who do not follow it. 

I speak of Christianity as you and I understand it. 



196 Misconceptions Rectified after Death 

and not of its perversions. I must add that the 
Mother of Jesus certainly holds a very high position 
on our side, and quite rightly too. On this point I 
understand more than I did when on earth. I fear 
we have taken very little notice of her in the past, 
probably because of certain practices in relation to 
her veneration which I feel are wrong. 

0J9.T.: What of those whose religion was a perversion of 
Christianity. Are they at a disadvantage on coming 
over ? 

Father: Not all, but many are, those for whom their 
Church was a limitation restricting their spiritual 
sense. Most certainly these are at a disadvantage ; 
for their sense of personal responsibility, of thinking 
for themselves, had been taken from them. Yet, I 
admit that many come here whose temperament has 
apparently been suited to such a Church. Many have 
belonged to Churches which did not suit their tempera¬ 
ment and so have been limited thereby. I think this 
applies to almost every Church and religion. But I 
find that, after a time, we all begin to follow the same 
great path leading to God through Christ. 



CHAPTER XXI 


VOICING THE MESSAGE 

On becoming aware of the thought to be transmitted, Feda 
operates upon the medium’s brain. One says “brain/' 
but I think there is some portion of the medium's mind alert 
within it. It is with this mind and brain that Feda works 
to get the message spoken aloud. She tells me that this 
is not always easy. It is essential to ensure that the 
message is “ taken/' otherwise it may, to use her own 
phrase, “ drop out of the brain " instead of being spoken. 
Let her describe this in her own way :— 

“ Feda pictures something and wills it and that sets 
the medium's mind going. Suppose I wished to give 
the picture of an apple; it would be necessary to 
think strongly of an apple, make a picture of it and 
put it on her mind. Feda tries to jump on the right 
part of the medium's brain, but often fumbles; it is 
like touching the wrong string." 

Here I asked Feda how she found the right spot on the 
brain. She replied :— 

“ When Feda has got a picture of the apple it feels 
like holding it up above the medium's brain. Feda 
feels it as if it were being drawn to a right place, 
attracted to a right part; but it has to be held till it 
is attracted there. Feda wriggles it about until she 
feels that it connects, that it is taken up; but all this 
is done with the mind, not with hands. Feda thinks 
of the brain as something alive with sense in it. It is 
a little like a game in the dark when someone has to 
catch what you are holding. Feda pushes it towards 
one part, then towards another part, until it is taken." 

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198 Voicing the Message 

My sister at this point explained that the shifting process 
did not necessarily mean movement from place to place, 
but a changing of the idea of the apple. Feda then 
continued:— 

“ At last it feels like something sucking it in, like 
taking in a breath. AH that does not take as long as 
it sounds in describing. Whole sentences can be done 
quickly sometimes. The best flow of words is when 
long ideas are being worked out; that kind of talk is 
much easier than giving some specific thing like apple 
or orange. It would be more difficult to say * An apple 
on your plate this morning/ than to give a long philo¬ 
sophical disquisition, or analysis of character.” 

Feda finds that the medium's receptivity is continually 
varying, and this necessitates careful management. 

While transmitting for my father, she remarked :— 

“ A picture of your mother suddenly jumped into 
this. I did not wait to ask your father what he meant 
by it, lest what I wished to say should drop out of 
the medium. Things sort of spill over if I do not keep 
them fixed on her brain. If I wait to ask anything, 
then what I am holding there may run out.” 

Feda ; Your father says that he refrains from saying many 
things which he wishes to give, lest they should come 
through in a distorted form. Feda feels that also; 
for she does not always make the medium's voice 
speak as intended. Feda touches something which 
wakes the medium's mind and then it goes off on its 
own account. 

C.D.T.: Feda, can you hear the words spoken by the 
medium ? 

Feda: Yes, but cannot stop her speaking if what she says 
is wrong. Often Feda cannot get the power to check 
the words. 


She continued 



Voicing the Message I99 

“ Your father says that overpressure taps the 
subconscious mind of the medium and then something 
escapes before Feda can stop it. Even after hearing 
those escapes and inaccuracies, Feda cannot always so 
control the medium’s mind as to put things right. As 
each thought is given it is fixed on the co-operative 
mind which is created partly by the medium and partly 
by Feda. Once it is registered there a counter 
suggestion is not easily put through. Your father 
says that Feda thinks she works directly upon the 
medium’s brain, but he does not consider that this is 
entirely accurate. He says that Feda really works 
upon the medium’s mind-essence which, in its turn, 
works the brain. This mind-essence belongs to the 
medium’s organism. To take a simile : Feda puts a 
match to the gas, this gas is not Feda’s, but its light 
might be termed hers, and she can regulate it. Feda 
has produced a quite wonderful manifestation which' 
draws its supply from the medium. That may 
explain why Feda is occasionally less brilliant 
than at other times; if it were Feda’s own gas 
it would always be equal, but, being the medium’s, it 
varies. 

Yes, your father is sure that Feda is wrong in 
thinking that she works the medium’s brain. It is the 
mind in the brain which Feda works . Feda gives to the 
medium’s mind and that mind then works the brain. 
Feda telepaths on to the medium’s mind, much as the 
communicators telepath to Feda, but the operation is 
so instantaneous that Feda can scarcely realise in 
detail what is happening. 

O.D.T.; Feda, did you find the medium’s brain respond 
to your efforts as easily, when you first learnt to 
control, as it does now ? 

Feda: No, it was dreadfully difficult then. 

Your father says, That bears out my assertion. 
For Feda was then working upon the medium’s mind, 
and found it difficult work owing to lack of practice 
and experience. But had Feda been working direct 
upon the brain, the trouble caused by the confused 



200 


Voicing the Message 

mental conditions of an undeveloped medium would 
not have arisen. 

On one occasion, when my father was speaking through 
Feda, I asked:— 

“ Does Feda ever find that your thought has reached 
the medium's mind direct ? Or must it always go to 
Feda first ? '' 

Father: Feda might find a thought in the medium's brain 
and understand that I have thrown it there; she 
would then cause it to be spoken. But Feda usually 
knows what I send to her own mind, and she then 
impresses it on the medium's brain. I think Feda 
succeeds in doing it either way. 

G.D.T.: But would not the medium's brain automatically 
cause the thought to be spoken if catching it before it 
reached Feda ? 

Father: No ; consider how, during sleep, your mind holds 
pictures, images, thoughts. Does your tongue there¬ 
fore speak them ? Certainly not, although the images 
may be as vivid as a waking experience. Feda can 
manage it either way. She often catches what I say 
before she puts it through ; but the whole operation 
is either instantaneous, or nearly so. She would 
scarcely be able to say which came first. 

Feda here added, that, while controlling, she does not 
actually know whether she gets the thoughts from the 
communicator, or from the medium's brain. But what 
she does know most certainly is that she often fails to get 
something which she ought to get. 



CHAPTER XXII 


INTERCOURSE WITH EARLIER GENERATIONS 

Father: We often speak of the greatness of our advantages 
here as compared with life on earth. There is, for 
instance, the mingling of different ages. It is aston¬ 
ishing how far back one can go. I have even seen 
people who lived long before the Christian era, and 
have talked with many who lived centuries before me. 

I should explain that if it is someone on a higher 
sphere whom I wish to see, that person must share my 
wish or nothing will come of it. On the other hand, 
when I wish to see one who is living on a sphere lower 
than my own, the desire need not be mutual. We help 
many who are unaware of our interest in them; 
some of these are on earth and perhaps give no thought 
to us. But it is different when we are seeking aid or 
information from those above us. Had I real need of 
advice from one on the sixth sphere, he would receive 
the S.O.S. sent by my mind and would probably 
respond to my invitation. Let us suppose, however, 
that he was just then so occupied that he could neither 
come to me nor let me interview him; his thought 
would be so powerful that he could send me a mental 
message, asking me to wait awhile. I should receive 
that idea; it would affect me in a manner that resulted 
in my feelingNo, I must wait, it will happen in good 
time.” I should feel philosophic about the delay. 

I consider that true philosophy is the interpreting of 
divine will correctly. One does not become apathetic, 
phlegmatic or careless, but I know that when I feel 
myself inclined to philosophise about my wishes it is 
an indication that I am to wait for their fulfilment. 

I have told you previously that we are able to shut 

20 X 



202 Intercourse with Earlier Generations 

off our thought at will. This gives us privacy of 
thought when we deem it desirable. 

C.D.T.; How frequently do you meet with those who lived 
long ages ago ? 

Father: I cannot lay down any rule. Some do it much 
more than do others. It is not everyone who shares 
my interest in the remote past. Etta has spoken with 
some who have been long resident here, yet have never 
spoken with anyone of long ago, their interests being 
on other lines. 

C.D.T.: Then the older generations are not intermingling 
freely with you all the time ? 

Etta: No, it is more usual for us to visit them than for 
them to come to us. Few of them reside on our 
sphere, although it is possible for anyone on a higher 
sphere to have a temporary place on ours in which 
they can dwell when their work brings them into our 
conditions, or even into yours. You see, these people 
of long ago, the progressed, can travel back to lower 
spheres, but in doing this a bodily as well as a mental 
change takes place which requires adjustment of an 
intricate and rather difficult kind. And so, in the 
event of important matters on earth requiring the 
supervision of these advanced souls, they make a 
temporary home on our sphere and acclimatise them¬ 
selves again to earth for possibly weeks or months of 
your time. At different periods of the world's history 
our sphere has been much occupied by them ; during 
such a period as that of Christ's life on earth there 
would be many of them. 

G.D.T.: How many generations back do the people around 
you date ? 

Etta: It is rather elastic. The majority of them came, 
say, twenty to thirty years ago, but many have been 
here a century. If they remain much longer than that 
I should suspect they have some work or mission in 
connection with earth, as is the case with Feda. 

Feda: Feda has been here more than a hundred years and 
expects to go on with this work for some time longer. 

Etta : You will ask whether, when those from higher spheres 



Intercourse with Earlier Generations 203 

come to dwell with us, everyone here wishes to see 
them ? No, many are not interested. You might 
liken it to London when a prominent pianist arrives; 
some will wish to hear him, many do not, the majority 
may not even be aware of the visitor’s presence in the 
city. 

Father is interested in those who have been pro¬ 
minent in history, especially the great teachers and 
leaders in different religious movements of the past. 
His to-morrow is always going to be more interesting 
than to-day, and his to-day more so than yesterday. 


Father: Our life is ten times more replete with interest 
than that of earth and no time is wasted in sleep, 
eating, or the preparation of food. Consider our 
facilities for meeting interesting people; one thinks, 
“ I wish I could get into touch with so-and-so,” and 
then finds himself helped into touch with that person. 
The limitations of earth, such as distance and diffi¬ 
culties of travel, no longer present any hindrance, 

I have had the pleasure of speaking to the pioneers of 
various sects and forms of church life. It is wonder¬ 
fully interesting to get the sum total of their various 
experiences, and to find how they now agree that there 
were many paths to the one goal. There are as many 
paths as there are branches on a tree, where each 
branch leads to the same trunk, from the pliable and 
brittle twig to the solid trunk—the trunk in this 
metaphor representing God. But, although on earth 
there are the many branches, it is not so in our higher 
world; with us it is as one great open road to God. 

These men, who would once have argued and fought 
about their various creeds and sects, have now recog¬ 
nised that, even if their methods were mistaken, they 
had to pursue them along a certain road; for they 
could not have travelled the other men’s road, or, if 
they had done so, they would have learnt little and 
found it unprofitable. 

I certainly never thought of meeting Cardinals and 

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204 Intercourse with Earlier Generations 

Luther and Wesley and having a heart-to-heart talk 
with them. 

C.D.T.: Is there any limit to the historical distance of 
those you can meet ? 

Father: If it were any benefit and I truly desired it, it 
would be quite possible to meet Julius Caesar although 
he has risen to the sixth sphere. I could see him 
within five minutes after the ending of this sitting if 
there were good reasons for it. The whole atmosphere 
seems full of magnetic rays which bring certain people 
into line. One person on the sixth sphere may be the 
guide to a hundred on the third sphere, and at any 
time a ray from the higher person can be thrown out 
to one on the lower who needs him. It may, in a way, 
be likened to rays from the sun. All works naturally ; 
if a thing is right you will have it; if not, you will not 
wish for it. 

I find this life a perpetual feast of mind. 

Etta states that one great interest has been her meeting 
with some of the old ancestors of our family. These struck 
her as showing marked family likeness to some of her own 
day. Even before they had introduced themselves there 
was a something which enabled her to understand that 
there was family relationship. Some of these ancestors 
she named, but lack of family records makes verification 
impossible. One remark of hers I have been able to 
verify by an .inspection of family paintings representing 
some of my paternal grandfather’s brothers and sisters. 

She said, “ One side of father’s family were very 
dark, with dark eyes and black hair.” I had not 
noted this fact until subsequently looking at the old 
paintings to see if this were so. 

On one occasion, when my sister had been speaking about 
ancient Egypt and its art, she said :— 

" I am sure the old Egyptians did not posture in 
that extremely stiff and angular fashion in which they 



Intercourse with Earlier Generations 205 1 

are portrayed by the artists of that time. But their 
. artists had not the art by which they could convey a 
natural movement or posing. I have seen some very 
early Egyptians, very early indeed, and I asked them 
whether they stood naturally in those peculiar positions. 
They told me. No, and that they moved as freely and 
as easily as we, and in very much the same way.” 

My informants say that not only are the people of other 
days approachable, but, under certain circumstances, the 
cities in which they lived are reproduced. In some 
instances these have permanent place in the spheres, while 
others of them, existing only in the minds of their former 
inhabitants, can be materialised and given a temporary 
objective form. Then the ancient city stands revealed, 
with those who occupied it at some given date moving 
about in the manner of long ago. This reproduction is for 
purposes of study and education. Thus, the different 
periods of ancient Egypt, Greece and other lands, now being 
studied by archaeologists on earth, are made available to 
students in spirit life. Speaking of this, my sister added:— 

ff I wish it could be realised that there will be this 
opportunity for visiting and studying. It is far 
superior to the hurried and often wearying sight-seeing 
of earth. Those who wish to travel, but are bound by 
duty to their homes, will be able, on arrival here, to 
visit all variety of interesting places and to enjoy 
them fully. The inability to travel, which so many 
on earth lament, would take a brighter aspect if it 
were understood that the opportunity does not end 
with bodily death, and that the pleasure is merely 
postponed.” 

On re-reading this remark, after an interval of months, 
I am reminded of my father’s attitude to foreign travel. 
He had never been further than the Channel Islands, 
although sensible to the delights of fine scenery and 
interested in accounts of life in other lands. When I once 
spoke to him of a holiday in Switzerland he alluded to the 



206 Intercourse with Earlier Generations 

duties detaining him at home, adding, " I shall not see 
Switzerland while in this life, but when an angel it will be 
my pleasure to visit such places at leisure and enjoy them 
fully.” Such were his thoughts. At the time I was not 
impressed; the earthly pleasures were so near, the future 
possibilities so hazy and remote. But now I understand 
the deep wisdom of his outlook, and know that, in ways 
difficult for my imagination to grasp, he has attained his 
hope and more, far more, than he then deemed possible. 

When one considers the vastness and variety of this 
planet—the storied beauty of southern seas, the mighty 
pageants of great mountain ranges, the teeming life of the 
tropics with their gaiety of bird and plant life, the majesty 
of volcanoes and the arctic auroras, the brilliancy of night 
in Egypt, the colours of sunset on the Alps—one realises 
how small a glimpse of Nature one has seen. Most of us 
live and die almost strangers to our globe, having remained 
within one small range of its myriad paths. 

Books of travel show how relatively little we have 
observed of humanity in its divergency of habit, colour and 
custom. Nor can the traveller take into consciousness all 
that meets his eye. Receptivity is limited and the best 
does not lie exposed to a casual glance ; both sympathy and 
knowledge are required, and we need bring with us much, 
or we shall perceive but little. One can visit a foreign 
city and yet realise almost nothing of its inner life. The 
most favoured visitor can only begin to know and see. 

Life is short, while Nature's panorama is endless. And so 
we pass from this world of immense interest, having barely 
commenced to recognise how entrancing are its scenes, 
how marvellously diverse its forms of life. The infinitely 
great beckons us overhead, the infinitely small displays 
its wonder wherever we direct the microscope. We catch, 
at best, but a glimpse of that which is “ boundless inward 
in the atom, boundless outward in the whole.” 

The surpassing wealth of physical creation suggests the 
infinitude of interest awaiting the receptive soul in its 
progress through super-mundane spheres. 



CHAPTER XXIII 


DIRECT CONTROL 

In preceding chapters we have examined the phenomenon 
of Feda's control. Let us now see what happens when my 
father or my sister, taking Feda's place, transmit their 
thought direct to the medium. 

Forgetfulness is still a limitation. Much knowledge 
which they are aware of possessing is no longer within 
reach. They say, “ One of our greatest difficulties when 
controlling is our divided memory.” Their condition 
would seem to correspond with that, so familiar to ourselves, 
when we fail to recall a name. We are aware that we 
know it, and that we would recognise it if we heard it 
spoken. We may even succeed in recalling it by some link 
of association, but all direct efforts are futile. 

Feda: Your father says he knows the intricacies of con¬ 
trolling, not only by observing Feda, but through 
doing it himself. He is sure that he works only a 
small part of his mind within the medium's mind. 
The part left outside the medium's mind forms, for the 
moment, his subconscious mind, but he is still in touch 
with it, just as you are in touch with your sub¬ 
conscious mind. 

C.D.T.: Is subconscious knowledge available while in 
control ? 

Feda: No; when you wish to recall what your conscious 
mind has lost you try to obtain it from the sub¬ 
conscious. Very often he tries to do this while 
controlling, but it is more difficult for him than for 
you, because a smaller proportion of his mind is 
operating in the medium. In her brain there is some 
of her own mind, and also some of his ; while in your 
brain there is only your own mind. In controlling, it 

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is what may be termed a co-operative mind. You see, 
therefore, why he cannot, while controlling, think so 
clearly or remember so much as you can. 

My sister remarks in this connection:— 

“ We bring in as much of our mind as we can, but 
the situation for us is something like having to turn 
from a full compass piano to perform for a time upon 
one having but a single octave of notes/' 

During my sister's fifth time of controlling she succeeded 
in describing a young officer who had recently died, and she 
transmitted several messages which he had given her for 
his father. (These messages proved to be rich in evidential 
points, and the father was convinced of his son's identity). 
The young officer was said not to be present at the sitting 
and my sister added finally:— 

“ The extraordinary thing about it is that, although 
he told me so much, I am now unable to recall it all. 
Yet later, when away from here, I shall remember 
everything." 

During personal control several matters demand simul¬ 
taneous attention; there is the care of the medium's 
organism, and the necessity of observing what will “ take " 
and what fails to take. The controller must also endeavour 
to mark what is actually spoken, and to avoid starting a 
flow of words which would misrepresent his meaning. 
When such a flow is once started it may be difficult to 
check, and practically impossible to follow it up with a 
contradiction or explanation. 

My sister says that she does not know the exact moment 
at which she gains effective control of the medium's 
mechanism. This probably explains why one hears Feda 
whispering in apparent conversation with the communi¬ 
cators before the sitting opens. 

During his controlling my father once suddenly re¬ 
marked :— 



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209 

" Something makes me want to cough.” (The 
medium then coughed and cleared her throat.) '‘When 
I think suddenly it gives the organism a jerk and 1 
cannot control the breath properly until I cough.” 

Later, he was checked in his attempt to explain some¬ 
thing further, and proceeded :— 

“ I cannot make her say it although I know quite 
well what it is I wish to tell you.” 

On the occasion of my sister's first control I had no 
warning that she was about to make the attempt. But 
I noticed that the change of control was taking a much 
longer time than usual, and when the voice commenced it 
was slow and faint. 

“ I am trying . . . not father. I shall do it. I 
want to. Can you hear better now ? . . . I shall 
speak more distinctly soon. S-S-S-S (the sibilants 
were clear and prolonged). I cannot manage her 
breath. I shall soon do it. Yes, now I think it is 
better . . . when I speak like that. I do not make 
the whistling sound. I wish to speak clearly, dis¬ 
tinctly and well. I am so glad to be able to speak. 
I shall do it in time.” 

Etta continued in control for twenty-nine minutes, and 
towards the end of that time was speaking more easily. 
She succeeded in pronouncing several relevant names, 
although failing to give others for which she was evidently 
trying. 

A few weeks later Etta controlled for the second time. 
Among other things, she said :— 

“ I want to practise names of people ... I want to 
remember the sound of words while controlling and 
to make the lips sound, to give her brain the names 
and make her lips say them. But it is difficult to 
think; I fail to connect up my ideas. Even now I have 



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a strong consciousness of having been often with you, 
but I find no detailed recollection of the things we have 
done. Do not tell me anything; I wish to practise 
remembering/' 

One may enjoy the perfect reception of a wireless 
apparatus without in the least knowing how it works; 
but if it begins to fail and disappoint us, we become curious 
to know what is amiss. With complicated instruments 
trouble frequently arises, necessitating some delicate 
adjustment. An understanding of the mechanism enables 
one to do justice to the instrument, and to obtain its 
best results. 

In trance mediumship we are dealing with living 
instruments—viz., the communicator, the control and the 
medium, each of whom should be working in adjustment 
with the others. The communicator has come prepared 
to speak and needs to convey his message to the 
control. The control has a double part to play; first, to 
ascertain what the communicator wishes to say, and then 
to ensure that the message shall be spoken by the 
medium. Only in so far as these processes are accurately 
carried through, will the sitter receive the messages in 
satisfactory form. 

I do not think these explanations cover all possible 
phenomena of trance communication. But they form, at 
least, an attempt to obtain a working hypothesis of the 
phenomena usually obtained with Mrs. Leonard. 



CHAPTER XXIV 


CONTACT WITH HIGHER REALMS 

Father: When, after my request, a response comes to me 
from higher planes of being, it may take the form of 
a symbol. I am able to interpret the symbol, and 
should be aware if I had interpreted it rightly or 
not. 

C.D.T.: Do those symbols take form outwardly ? 

Father: They seem objective to me, yet others who were 
with me might not see them; so they are evidently 
subjective. 

C.D.T.: Then it is much as when we on earth pray for 
guidance and receive it inwardly ? 

Father: Yes, for people on earth can be strongly aware of 
the guidance so given, seeing or feeling it with inward 
clearness. 


C.D.T.: When you speak to an assembly there do you 
prepare an outline, or write in full as when you used 
to make sermons on earth ? 

Father: There is no preparation of the matter of discourse. 
I rely wholly upon inspiration; for there is nothing 
between us and the source of inspiration. When 
speaking publicly on earth there is much between, 
and something may happen which cuts you off from 
it. But with us there is nothing which could do so. 
If someone makes a stir in your congregation you might 
lose your thread of discourse, owing to your conscious 
mind being affected by the disturbance to such a 
degree that it became unable to switch back again 
to the channel from which you had been receiving 
inspiration. 


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212 Contact with Higher Realms 

G.D.T .: You once spoke of “ listening to the voice of law ” 
on your sphere. How do you become aware of that 
voice ? 

Father: It is the inner voice, but much more definite than 
the voice of conscience on earth. I think it is because 
I live so much more completely in the subliminal mind 
that I hear this higher voice so easily. 

G.D.T.: Does the voice convey guidance from superior 
spheres ? 

Father: Yes, from those nearer to the Source of wisdom. 

G.D.T .; Working under Our Lord's guidance ? 

Father: That is just what it amounts to. Those nearest 
to Him understand and interpret His wishes perfectly. 

G.D.T.: We commonly speak as if Christ were the only 
one who worked for earth there. Is that an accurate 
way of representing the facts ? 

Father: No; multitudes in our sphere are working to 
help man, all of them doing His wishes, but doing 
what we once thought He, and only He, was doing, 
or could do. It is a system of universal brotherhood 
and service. 

G.D.T.: It must be good for those who thus serve. 

Father: It is the only way. One cannot progress except 
by service. Who served so much and so completely 
as did Our Lord ? 


G.D.T.; Can you tell me anything about the powers of 
those on the higher spheres ? 

Father: I will try. They certainly have greater mental 
power, and it is more operative, more creative than 
is ours, just as ours is more creative than yours. 
Even on earth those who are mentally developed can 
accomplish more than others, despite the material 
surroundings. But on sphere three, which is ours, 
we are not so rigidly limited by “ matter ” as you are ; 
and yet we are more limited by it than are those on 
the seventh or sixth. On the highest sphere they have 
the power of constructing mentally anything in the 
past, present, or even in what you would term the 



Contact with Higher Realms 213 

future. All that which has been active in the materia] 
sense, in any way or at any time, is there under the 
dominion of mind. In that realm, thought is really 
free and is combined with executive power. 

When it is necessary to show to someone here the 
effects resulting from some good or bad deed, he is 
taken for the purpose to the sixth or seventh sphere. 
There, certain of the higher guides will reconstruct the 
whole scene for him. It is difficult to explain. I will 
state it as simply as possible. The persons selected to 
re-enact that scene are, as a rule, the same who 
originally took part in it, no matter how long ago it 
may have been. You recollect the line, “ The evil 
that men do lives after them it does, even with us, 
the evil and also the good. To re-enact the evil of 
long ago is sometimes a punishment meted out to 
those who caused the evil. But to those dwelling on 
the seventh sphere it is no longer punishment, but 
rather a sacrifice, a voluntary sacrifice, offered in the 
process of neutralising, or shall I say, of wiping it 
out. This is not a regular occurrence, but may be 
arranged to teach someone who is about to visit 
earth for a purpose. Guides are often taught in this 
way; the lesson is impressed upon them. You may 
take it that the greater powers on the higher spheres 
are due to mental and spiritual development. We 
develop slowly upward to that state. 


O.D.T.; Would it be possible to give me some idea of 
what you have learnt when visiting the fifth sphere ? 

Father: It is doubtful. I greatly wish I could find words 
to convey it. I was shown the working of the law* of 
cause and effect. Also, I have seen pictures of the 
earliest development of the planet, and the early 
forms of life upon it. You may ask how it is possible 
to have obtained pictures of earth as it was before 
man arrived. They originate in the great mind of God, 
of which our subliminal minds are a small particle— 
shall I say, a single cell. The earliest men saw earth 



214 Contact with Higher Realms 

as it was then ; since that time they have developed 
to states of consciousness in which they can bring back 
memories of the Divine Mind which watched over 
earth before man was. 

G.D.T.: Are those men now the highest in the ranks of 
spirit workers ? 

Father: Among the highest. They help to build the 
mental pictures, cinematograph-like, upon the ether, 
forming images or representations of things that have 
been. We see that mental picture as if it were actually 
happening. Possibly it may act as when a hypnotised 
person thinks of a rose when commanded to do so, 
and experiences the reactions of smell, sight and touch 
just as if a rose were actually present to his senses. 
Such a power as that we certainly possess, only it is 
a thousand times stronger. 


G.D.T.: Does the Heavenly World—you will recollect 
what we on earth signify by that phrase—seem nearer 
to you now than when on earth ? 

Father: I have access to it now. My sphere is the fringe 
of the Heavenly World. I think of the very high 
spheres only as the Heavenly World ; and yet the one 
wherein I dwell is truly a very heavenly place. 
Properly speaking, the fifth, sixth and seventh are the 
Heavenly Spheres. 

C.D.T.: Could you explain in what way the seventh differs 
from yours ? (The following reply was given slowly, 
and very carefully, a few words at a time.) 

Father: I have been to the seventh. It is not that 
personality is diminished, but yet, without losing that 
which we strove so hard to perfect, we become there 
more impersonal, more'desireless. We become so sure 
of the Divine Wisdom that we no longer desire any 
individual thing, whether for self, those here with us, 
or for our loved ones on earth. We thus become less 
personal in outlook. I have not attained to that as 
yet; for when I see something coming which I think 
good for you, I wish it, and pray that you may have 



Contact with Higher Realms 215 

it; I feel enthusiastic about one thing, and not about 
another. But on those higher spheres the feeling for 
others is more universal; it is not that love for wife 
and child is less, but that love for all others is more. 

I think this is the greatest difference. 

Were I now dwelling in the fifth sphere instead of 
the third, I should not be sufficiently in touch with 
earthly conditions to help you, but I should be helping 
those on the third sphere. Dwellers in the fifth, sixth 
and seventh do not hold much personal contact with 
earth, but are the agents, where agency, in the sense 
of guiding a nation, or even an individual, is needed. 
It is right for me to work on the third sphere, because 
there are so few there who have such an opportunity 
for helping on earth. You have made the opportunity 
for me, but how small a percentage make any opening 
for us. 

C.D.T.: I notice that you have replied to my question in 
terms of the inner life, whereas I was really wondering 
what the external difference might be. 

Father: Curiously, it is just that internal difference that 
strikes me most there. I rather lose sense of the 
external in that atmosphere, lose susceptibility to it, 
and am not moved by the externals. Yet, I have been 
there sufficiently often to notice that there is a great 
difference in outward things also. The higher the 
sphere the less the number of buildings of a conven¬ 
tional kind. There are fewer houses; indeed, 110 
residences such as we have on the third. People live 
more in the open, and sleep—no, I should not have 
said sleep, but take rest in the open. Buildings are 
there, but these have been erected for some particular 
purpose, in which colour and shape are used in some 
instructive sense, sometimes symbolically. 

The clothing worn there is of lighter texture than 
on the third, and presents a greater similarity of 
appearance, with less expression of individual taste ; 
to those people it is clothing merely. Then the 
atmosphere is lighter, and I am sure that the inhabi¬ 
tants are fairer on those higher spheres. Some 



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Contact with Higher Realms 

consciousness of the effect of that brighter atmosphere 
may have given the great artists their idea that angels 
are fair. 

C.D.T .: Can you tell me of the Apostles ? 

Father: They are with Jesus. He teaches them and they 
teach others, who in their turn pass it down to others, 
and so downwards until it comes to those who try 
to inspire the teachers on earth. Thus, the teaching 
passes through many intermediaries who present it in 
terms best suited to the understanding of those whom 
they teach. 

Jesus is the channel, the mouthpiece of God. He is 
God embodied in a personality. He is the highest 
point of perfection, so far as personality is concerned, 
and that toward which we are all tending, or should 
tend. 


C.D.T.; Does the seventh sphere look a solid world, as 
earth does to us ? 

Father: That which is there looks as solid as does the 
room in which you are sitting at this moment. The 
beauties of nature are reproduced there, but with 
more colours than you on earth have ever seen. The 
wonders of the seventh sphere cannot be told; we 
can only state that even a brief visit there makes us 
gloriously happy. 

C.D.T.; Is there yet more beyond the seventh sphere ? 

Father: Much more. But that is the highest stage of 
existence which I have touched. I suppose that 
millions of years may elapse before we touch any outer 
spheres of life beyond it. 


Father: Looking very far ahead indeed, I know there is a 
great destiny which awaits us some day, somewhere, 
somehow. We shall continue to be ourselves, but in 
a state higher than anything realised upon these 
spheres. I know that there is a world above and 
beyond our present one, but I do not seek to know too 



Contact with Higher Realms 2 iy 

much until it is given me. When it is necessary for 
me to know any fresh facts, beyond what is common 
knowledge here, I am summoned to the highest of our 
spheres. Just as men can receive inspiration from us, 
and so obtain light upon matters of which they have 
no normal experience, so we can go to the fifth or the 
sixth sphere to share the inspiration which is there 
received from the seventh. But upon the seventh it 
is possible to receive inspiration from that higher 
world which lies beyond and outside these spheres of 
ours. I am learning many new things now, informa¬ 
tion which did not come to me during my earlier 
years here. 

(The date of the last paragraph was twenty-two 
years after my father's passing.) 



CHAPTER XXV 


ON THE DIFFICULTY OF TRANSMITTING NAMES IN PSYCHIC 
MESSAGES 

From my earliest sittings with Mrs. Leonard it became 
evident that the messages presented marked peculiarity in 
the matter of proper names. When Feda first alluded 
to my father she said, " There is an elderly man with 
a beard ” ; then followed an accurate description. Later, 
in the same sitting, it was remarked, “ The initial J comes 
with him.” I naturally asked myself why Feda had not 
abbreviated this by stating simply that John D. Thomas 
was present and wished to speak to me. 

During the second sitting my father's study was described 
and one item was given thus :— 

" Near the bureau, but above it, and easily seen 
when sitting at it, is the picture of a man, elderly, 
with fine face, a splendid character.” 

It would have been more simple to say, “ A picture of 
Wesley is above the door.” Why this roundabout des¬ 
cription ? Why this avoidance of names, or the substitu¬ 
tion of an initial letter in place of a name ? The question 
became more interesting when I later discovered that names 
were sometimes given without any apparent difficulty, and 
that at other times Feda could write a name in the air, 
using the medium's finger to trace the letters. Sometimes, 
after ineffectual efforts to pronounce a name, the first 
syllable would be given; Feda would then complain that 
she could not see the remaining letters, but that they 
appeared to be, say, six in number. 

It became evident that the giving of a name involved 
the overcoming of some obstacle, and that usually the 
difficulty, whatever it might be, was too serious to permit 

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The Difficulty of Transmitting Names 219 

of success. This is the experience also of other investi¬ 
gators. There is unquestionably a difficulty in trans¬ 
mitting names through trance mediums, though some give 
them more successfully than do others. 

Readers who have followed my attempt to analyse the 
methods of trance communication will remember the 
limitations to free expression. These also affect the 
transmission of names and so I will touch on them briefly 
in that connection. 

1. The communicator has frequent difficulty in recollecting. 

It is the more easy for us to realise this difficulty with 

memory, because we ourselves are occasionally in a similar 
situation. We forget a name which we know we ought to 
be able to recall. We have not forgotten anything else, 
for our mind pictures the person whose name is eluding us, 
and we can remember many facts relating to him. We 
know his profession, his place of residence, and could 
describe events in which he played a part. Nevertheless, 
we cannot name him. 

I recently found myself unable to recall the name 
Treadgold. Mental effort failed to bring it into recollection. 
Presently, it occurred to me that the word silver would in 
some way serve as an aid. For some moments I tried to 
follow this clue, but failed to recover the name. Then I 
turned my thoughts in other directions and shortly after 
the name Treadgold came into my mind. 

Such lapses of memory are common, and when we are 
inconvenienced by inability to speak the required name, 
we may have recourse to description in order to convey 
the identity of the person in question. This is exactly 
what we find happening so often in trance messages; 
someone is described and his identity further indicated by 
various remarks until the sitter realises who is intended. 
The communicator, like ourselves, finds that personal 
names are less easily recalled than are scenes and incidents. 
One such remarked to me, " Yes, I remember it, but not 
here and now.” 

2. The communicator cannot always make the control 

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220 The Difficulty of Transmitting Names 

understand his meaning, and is unable to convey 

the sound of a name. 

I use the word sound advisedly; for Feda is able on 
occasion to receive the communicator's thought in a way 
which produces to her the effect of sound. At such times 
she appears to speak messages verbatim, as if repeating 
what is dictated to her. This dictation method always 
reaches a high degree of accuracy, and I realise that I am 
receiving, not merely the communicator's thoughts, but 
his diction. When, however, Feda receives only the general 
import of a message and transmits it in her own words the 
level of accuracy is much lower. 

But even during the dictation method there is frequent 
difficulty with names and other words which receive no 
assistance from the context. As Etta once remarked, 
"sending words to Feda is more difficult than sending 
ideas." Hypnotic experiment illustrates this point. 
M. Emil Boirac tells us that while he was experimenting 
with an hypnotised subject a doctor entered the room. 
Boirac then took the patient's hand and asked him to say 
the doctor's name, thinking of it himself meanwhile. Soon 
the patient remarked, " I cannot distinguish it very well, 
it seems to me that I hear Ort, Ort, Ort." As this was 
correct for the final syllable Boirac said, “ Listen atten¬ 
tively. I will think one after another the two syllables of 
his name. Here is the first . . . Here is the second . . . 
Now ? The man replied, “ I am not sure if I heard 
correctly. It seemed to me the first syllable was Du—, 
and the second —sort." The doctor's name was Dussort. 
(Psychic Science, Boirac, p. 291.) 

I think it must be in just such a way that Feda hears 
the communicator while he concentrates upon a name. 
That it should be difficult to hear correctly is not surprising; 
with the telephone we often have similar trouble. 

Picture a communicator wishing to convey a name to 
Feda, and finding that his telepathy, or perhaps her 
receptivity, is at fault. What is he to do ? Insistent 
effort on his part does not help matters ; he must either 
renounce the attempt, or fall back upon an indirect way 
of conveying his meaning. 



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in Psychic Messages 

“ One cannot sometimes get the names right. If I 
wish to speak about a man named Meadow, I may 
try that name and find that Meadow is not spoken 
rightly by Feda. So I then wait and try to insert 
the idea of a green field, connecting with it the idea 
of the man described. We always try for a definite 
thing which will tell you exactly what we mean; 
but, if unable to do that, we have to get as near to it 
as we can. Sometimes we have to depend upon 
slender links in giving you the due.” 

So said my father while explaining his method of trans¬ 
mission, and on looking through notes of earlier sittings, 
I discovered many instances of these more or less slender 
links. Here is one :— 

" The word Zion occurs much near page 122.” 

This was part of a book test, and I discovered that 
although there was no mention of Zion, the name Jerusalem 
appeared many times on the pages indicated. When I 
pointed out this discrepancy later, my father replied, 
“ Zion was the approximate word/' 

3. The control is sometimes unable to make the medium 

speak the required words. 

Here are quotations which illustrate this : the first is a 
remark made by my sister while in direct control. 

" Is it not strange that I cannot say my husband’s 
name ? I can feel it, but cannot say it; that is, I 
cannot get it spoken. I get it on the surface, so to 
speak, but cannot get it into the medium’s mind.” 

My mother then asked her if she meant Whit, which was 
my sister’s customary abbreviation for her husband’s name 
Whitfield. She replied :— 

" Oh, you should not have told me that. I have 
been trying to say it and should have succeeded in 
time.” 



222 The Difficulty of Transmitting Names 

Her expostulation at having the name given away, just 
when she had hoped to succeed in getting it spoken, was 
most striking. Some four months later, Etta had occasion 
to use this name, but only succeeded in making the medium 
say, Wh—, Whi—, Wht—. 

My father once said, while controlling:— 

“ Do you remember Bertha ? She wished to be 
remembered to-” 

As he paused without giving any name, I asked if the 
message was for me. He replied :— 

“ Only to someone whom you know. I can re¬ 
member the name, but cannot say it. It is a most 
peculiar situation. I got out the name Bertha 
suddenly, or could not have done it.” 

On another occasion Etta, failing to pronounce a name, 
remarked:— 

“ The more I try to think it on, the less can I get 
it on. I am expressing myself in a peculiar way, 
and it is the medium's power of expression which I 
cannot control. One may get a word into her mind 
and yet be unable to make her express it. Because 
it is in the mind it does not follow that her brain will 
take it. Unless the ideas in the mind are tapped on 
to the actual brain one cannot express them; like a 
typewriter when you think words, but unless you tap 
the right keys you will not get the letters. You can 
place your finger on the right key, but unless you tap 
it there is no expression. The brain takes or does not 
take from the mind. 

“ Her brain is like a key-board, automatically 
responsive to us, but often in a wrong way; we wish 
to press the keys, to put expression through, but if we 
try too much for a certain word the keys become stiff 
with—say apprehension. If in painting one stiffens 
the muscles when not wishing to do so, then anxiety 
makes it worse; just so with words. When I cannot 



in Psychic Messages 223 

get them I pretend to forget and thus relieve the 
tension, and the * key ' then relapses into its ordinary 
condition. Then sometimes, a little later, that re¬ 
quired word will come. On occasions I might he 
unable to say my name here. Strange, but it is the 
human instrument which makes it so difficult. If 
only a mechanical one could be made! But mind is 
the bridge between the two worlds/' 

My father once commenced his controlling by an un- 
successsful attempt to speak a name. He said :— 

“ Serin—Ser—Cur. No, I have not given it 
correctly, yet. Sarah ; it is not Sarah, but the first 
part is pronounced similarly to the start of Sarah, 
although not spelled so. Cer-'' 

At this point he realised it was useless to continue the 
effort, and proceeded to speak of other things. 

Despite the difficulties, my father and sister achieve a 
fair degree of success with names. 

My father once made a successful attempt to write while 
in control. He asked for my writing pad and pencil and 
these were placed in the medium's hand. During a few 
minutes' silence the hand wrote slowly and with apparent 
difficulty, then the pad was handed back to me. I found 
that the writing was in three different styles, none of 
which bore any resemblance to my father's; nor was there 
any recognisable similarity with Mrs. Leonard's hand¬ 
writing. The pad now bore nine names and one initial. 
My father remarked that he had previously informed Etta 
of his intention to try this experiment and she had ex¬ 
pressed the opinion that he would forget the names before 
he could get them written. He then made appropriate 
remarks about several of the names, indicating knowledge 
of their inter-relation. We found that he had coupled 
together Mary and F, also Tom and Lizzie; these repre¬ 
sented married couples in whom both he and we had been 
particularly interested. Three other names were those of 
our relations. Another was quite appropriate, although we 
were uncertain to whom it was intended to refer. Only 



224 The Difficulty of Transmitting Names 

two were illegible. The chief interest of this experiment 
lay in the fact that the names were written in less time than 
they could have been transmitted verbally, either through 
Feda or during personal control. 

I notice that Feda can more easily catch a first syllable 
than the whole name. Sometimes she seems to see the 
initial letter, which is said to be pictured for her by the 
communicator. Again, she will say that such-and-such a 
letter " comes up ” with the person whose name she has 
not yet caught. Her explanation is that, while this is 
often due to a definite attempt to give the letter by itself, 
at other times she only catches the first letter, although the 
complete name is being attempted. Feda will sometimes 
give correctly the first and the last letters of a name. At 
other times she can tell correctly the number of syllables 
in a long name, as well as its initial letter, and yet fail to 
ascertain the name itself. 

An examination of failures is sometimes instructive. 
Here are instances where Feda failed to transmit the name, 
and yet in each case the attempt, context, or subsequent 
description made it evident. 

One who had been a schoolmaster at Kenley, and 
whose favourite study had been Greek, was trying to 
introduce those two words. Feda said:— 

“ G—, Gre—. He says it is something you can 
manoeuvre. Grek, Greg, Greeg. It is something not 
always easily managed, not easy to do. Not every¬ 
body would like it, it is a matter of taste. Some want 
to get out of doing it, to escape from it. Ke—, Ken—, 
Ker—, Ken—. Now he returns to that word again; 
he is anxious to give it, Greg, Grek, and Kende. Feda 
cannot get it right. The two words are connected." 

I was once accompanied by a lady whose son had died 
in the midst of a brilliant political career. He spoke about 
his family, and made special allusion to one whom his 
mother easily recognised as her son's widow. Veiling this 
recognition, she inquired :— 

" What relation is this lady to him ? ” 





in Psychic Messages 

Feda then answered :— 

“ * Not a sister/ he says when Feda asks him, and 
not his mother, nor an aunt, nor a cousin; it is 
someone close, very closely to do with him and his 
children. So Feda guesses he means his wife/' 

It was somewhat puzzling for the mother to receive so 
indirect a reply to her simple question, but I think it was 
precisely the direct question which made the one word 
impossible. The ingenious elimination of other near 
relationships provided an answer, although not in the 
form anticipated. 

Just as one man hears better than another, so do some 
controls catch the meaning of a communicator with more 
ease and accuracy than do others. We are dealing, not 
with machines, but with individuals, and they are not all 
capable of the same efficiency. 

There are some methods of psychic communication which 
favour accuracy in obtaining names. One of these is the 
spelling of words by tilts of a table, or some similar con¬ 
trivance. Here the communicator dispenses with the 
control and (if there be sufficient psychic force available) 
directs the tilting himself. Supposing he can tilt the table 
freely while we call over the alphabet, then, if he remembers 
the name required, he will spell it. This method is slow 
and cumbrous, but it can be very effective. Names 
which could not be put through during trance sittings, 
will often be given in this way. The communicator may 
not always succeed, even when in full control of the table's 
movements, because his recollection may fail him. In that 
case we cannot assist him. But if he becomes confused 
during the spelling, we can suggest that he recommence 
the word, and with patience it will be completed. 

Two facts, familiar to experienced investigators, are 
instructive:— 

Names which fail to be given by one method can be 
accurately given through another. 

Names which could not be given through one medium 
will be given through another. 



CHAPTER XXVI 


THE PLACE AND CONDITION OF THE UNPROGRESSED 

Personal character stands supreme among the factors 
which, here on earth, influence success or failure, happiness 
or misery. The deepest intuitions of mankind intimate 
that character and its results persist beyond death. 

But what form does retribution take in the hereafter ? 

Terrible pictures have been drawn of the fate awaiting 
the impenitent. These forecasts have always been in¬ 
fluenced by the customary punishments in vogue at the 
period of their inception. The more ancient were sketched 
in fiercely lurid colours ; the more modem tend to soften 
those crude conceptions of vindictiveness and cruelty, and 
to suggest mental substitutes for bodily torture. There 
is, however, no general agreement upon the nature of 
future punishment. Heated controversy continues as to 
whether it is remedial or vindictive, temporary or of 
perpetual duration. 

It is therefore with peculiar interest that we listen to 
those who, by observation or by experience, are able to 
tell us what happens in the hereafter to those who misuse 
the opportunities of earth. 

C.D.T.: When a person of evil character passes over has 
he around him the same things which surround you ? 
Etta : No; all is different for him because he is in a totally 
different place. There are two places, or spheres, 
below ours. The definitely evil go to the lower of 
them. To the other go the weak and selfish who have 
done harm to others through lack of effort to do right, 
rather than of set purpose to do evil. 

C.D.T,: Have those two places higher and lower stages 
or degrees ? 


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The Place and Condition of the Unprogressed 227 

Etta: Yes; I should think there must be several, because 
there are so many degrees of wickedness. There is a 
difference between a habit, and an impulse or occasional 
wickedness. The people most punished by earthly 
laws are those who indulge in occasional wickedness; 
for the people who are wicked all the time are, as a 
rule, able to protect themselves. But when they 
come here they take their true places. Among our 
activities there is one special work in which experi¬ 
enced people engage; they visit the lowest spheres, 
seeking to make the residents realise that there is a 
sphere above their own. Just as it is difficult to make 
some on earth understand that there is a world beyond, 
so is it with those in the lower realms who do not 
credit the existence of anything higher. But all will 
come upward at length. I have never heard of any 
being annihilated. There is hope for every one. 
The very worst of criminals can rise. When first 
reaching the other side they think that theirs is the 
only place. They cannot even see us when we visit 
them. I am aware that there is an essential difference 
between my body and that of a person on the lower 
sphere. My body is so etherialised that it is almost 
as invisible to those people as it is to you, and the 
mental barriers set up by those unhappy souls preclude 
them at first from even sensing my presence. 

G.D.T.: What do you find corresponding to our ideas of 
“ The Judgment to Come ? " 

Etta : “ The Judgment to Come ” consists in being able to 
see ourselves as we are, and by no stretch of imagina¬ 
tion being able to avoid seeing it. It is a judgment of 
God on us through our higher selves. 

On earth even the best are subconsciously avoiding 
things, or trying to think things are slightly other 
than they really are. But, when one comes here, one 
enters into the judgment directly one becomes con¬ 
scious ; and no other person could be so severe or just 
a judge of us as we ourselves can be when facing the 
truth. For many it is a terrible hour. 



228 The Place and Condition of the Unprogressed 

I am glad that you say “ Judgment ” rather than 
u Punishment ” or “ Reckoning for “ Judgment" 
is the right word. Directly one has realised how, 
where, and why one was wrong, there is an instinctive 
feeling that one must work it out. 

It is sometimes very appalling, this time of realisa¬ 
tion ; especially when a soul has been pampered or 
flattered by loving but mistaken friends into thinking 
himself right when he is wrong. It is an awakening 
indeed; judgment and awakening are synonymous 
here. One then sees and knows, and cannot avoid 
knowing. 

Although this is, to many, a terrible experience, 
yet running through it is a vein of hope, a feeling of 
certainty that one will be able to overcome and work 
it all out. That gives courage. Were this not so, 
one might be overwhelmed when realising the truth. 
But there is always hope, the opportunity for re¬ 
covering lost ground. And this way of recovery is in 
helping others who have exactly similar limitations, 
difficulties, or vices. 

C.D.T .; Here I inquire if this help is given to those still 
on earth ? 

Etta : Yes, and also to those on the lower spheres and less 
developed planes of consciousness here. 

We greatly wish it were understood on earth that 
nothing in the way of punishment is forced upon one 
here. 

G.D.T.: But what happens to bring it to the notice of an 
evil-doer ? 

Etta : Take an extreme case, one upon the lowest sphere to 
which human life can go, say a man who has been 
very cruel, thoughtless and selfish—and selfishness is 
seen in its true light here—say a wealthy man who, by 
his vices, brought suffering and even sin into the lives 
of others. While he was on earth he was treated with 
some toleration on account of his riches, or his position, 
or his abilities. Sometimes wealth and position cover 
a multitude of sins. But on coming here he passes to 
• that plane and place to which he belongs because of 



The Place and Condition of the Unprogressed 229 

what he really is, without any reference to what he 
appeared to be, or desired to be thought* Now, that 
means that he will find himself surrounded entirely by 
those who have the same sins, vices, and limitations 
as himself; there will be a collective condition 
resulting. This is very different from his environment 
on earth, where his evils were to some extent in 
isolation, because he was surrounded by a family of 
fairly good people; their presence lightened the 
mental atmosphere and mitigated the condition around 
the one evil life. How often such an one is tolerated 
for the sake of the family, and his sins more or less 
ignored. But here it is like to like; therefore, he finds 
himself with no other friends, and no one else near 
him, save those who are exactly like himself. The 
whole atmosphere and the very scenery of the place 
is tinted with the hopeless drabs and grays of their 
mental and spiritual outlook. How truly poets and 
the great writers have symbolised the darkness of evil, 
the grayness of misery. I have visited it and I have 
seen the grayness, I have seen the darkness. It 
surpasses that known on earth. 

The wakening comes slowly, very slowly to such 
people; and, therefore, that which I shall term Judg¬ 
ment comes slowly. At first there is felt a resentment 
at being in such a condition; this is followed by bitter 
disappointment at being unable to buy, or to enforce, 
better conditions. Then, when they realise that they 
cannot command different surroundings, they begin 
to wonder why. 

You can understand how each of these people 
becomes an object-lesson to the others, since each one 
is a reflection of the others. 

When they begin to realise that there is something 
wrong, visitors come to them from the higher spheres 
to point out to them that there are higher and happier 
spheres to which they can go when they have risen 
above their lower selves. This is exactly like sending 
missions to the heathen. As you know, the heathen 
do not immediately, nor always, believe what the 



230 The Place and Condition of the Unprogressed 

missionaries say. And our visitors are not believed at 
once; we may go there many times before making 
any impression on them. 

But eventually the sense of contrast begins to act, 
and into the mind of one of them will come the 
question, “ Why is it that this man or woman is so 
different from us ? Why are they able to go away 
from this miserable place and then return when they 
choose ? How is it that they speak to us with love, 
sympathy and hope, when all others here are thinking 
only of themselves ? ” When that seed commences 
to germinate it brings the realisation, “ I am with these 
miserable people because I am of them, in fact, because 
I am like them.” When that happens there comes the 
desire to be different. Then follows the awakening 
of which I have spoken. It brings that bitterness 
and remorse which is the greatest and most terrible 
punishment man can have. No torture which 
another can inflict is so terrible as the remorse 
which one's own best self inflicts when enlightenment 
comes. 

That process of awakening may have taken a long 
time. But there are others, fairly good people, who 
have faults, and who have made mistakes; with 
these the wakening and " judgment" comes very 
quickly. 

In the early years of my ministry I was acquainted with 
a man of dominating personality who had exerted consider¬ 
able influence in his time. He was a remarkably successful 
political speaker and uniformly expressed himself with 
vigour and lucidity. Some years after his death he made 
himself known to me in the course of my usual sittings. 
His messages were clear-cut and came through with an 
ease rarely achieved by those whose powers of expression 
are meagre. 

After giving an ingenious and conclusive proof of his 
identity, he proceeded to describe those traits in his former 
character which he had since found reason to regret. He 
said :— 



The Place and Condition of the Unprogressed 231 

" I used to have great differences of opinion with 
people; some of my opinions were right and some 
were wrong. Many of my ideas, although I could not 
get them worked out, were on sound foundations. But 
I ought to have taken a longer vision. I was hemmed 
in by conditions which were not helpful. I do not 
excuse myself; but with a crowd of unhelpful sur¬ 
roundings hemming one in it is difficult to steer one’s 
way out, especially when they are further complicated 
by financial considerations. It is most interesting to 
speak with you through this channel; for, had I known 
of this subject while on earth, I should have been a 
different man. Even the coarsest form of Spiritualism 
would have helped me where the higher presentations 
of spirituality left me cold. My disposition would 
have been more attuned to it. 

“When on earth I used to push my way among 
people; I could push everything in front of me. I got 
the most out of people and gave the least possible in 
return. I used to grind them. 

“ Here I have tried to work that out, and have only 
just reached the third sphere by much effort. On 
coming into this life my place was a low one, because 
my spirituality, so long dormant, was not attuned to 
anything higher. My first surroundings may be 
likened to some of the dull, uninteresting towns in the 
midland or north of England with their stretches of 
barren fields around and small rows of jerry-built 
houses. My companions were uninteresting and un¬ 
intelligent people. Many of these had been wealthy 
when on earth, but it is not that which counts on 
coming over here. When the soul has been starved of 
all spiritual food one has to begin very low down. 
Indeed, there is little wish for anything higher; it is 
only when the soul becomes dissatisfied with the 
almost mundane things of those lower spheres that 
it, almost automatically, raises itself to higher places. 
The very act of aspiration, of wishing something 
better for the soul’s sake alone, causes one to rise. 

“ On reaching the next sphere my surroundings 



2$2 The Place and Condition of the Unprogressed 

were a degree better, for there were opportunities for 
more intellectual and spiritual development. There I 
found halls and schools where study was encouraged, 
and helpers came who did not coerce, but who told 
us of the more beautiful regions above. Yet, although 
they can tell of those realms, and can arouse the wish 
to reach them, one has to work out the stupidities 
and follies and the errors of evil done, whether con¬ 
sciously or unconsciously, during life on earth. And 
this is accomplished by hard work for others, while 
forgetting self entirely; building houses and making 
the less beautiful objects required there, aiding those 
newly arrived, and, generally, in effacing self while 
recollecting one's truest needs. In thus living more 
fully for others one moves upward and at length 
attains the third sphere where none but the enlightened 
are found. 

“ On this third sphere are those who on earth lived 
exemplary lives, and also those who, on lower planes, 
have awakened to the realisation of higher things than 
those connected with self and ambition. Some who 
are here with me passed quickly to this elevation, 
while I had to work through the lower regions and 
have only lately reached it. For I was almost an 
unborn soul when I left earth, and so had to begin 
upon the lowest rungs of the ladder." 

In harmony with the foregoing are my father's explana¬ 
tions. A selection from these completes this chapter. 

C.D.T - -* Do relations meet quickly on arrival there ? 
Father: Close friends meet quickly, if upon the same 
sphere. But if one is on a lower sphere, his friends 
may not know of his arrival there. Then, again, some 
are better left alone for a while. I knew of an instance 
where a man's friends did not know of his having passed 
over until the widow asked about him. Even then 
they could not approach him ; he was, far down in the 
regions of the second sphere. I have been engaged in 
helping those in the lower regions, and I notice that 



The Place and Condition of the Unprogressed 233 

they work things out for themselves very slowly; but 
the lessons of experience are effective. 

My father remarks that there is a very literal sense in 
which one may “ lay up treasure in heaven ”; that beautiful 
objects, created on earth and expressing the soul of their 
author, have an imperishable counterpart which finds a 
place on the third sphere. But that nothing ugly or vile 
finds place there; such things gravitate to the spheres 
below. 


" Whatever one does or thinks is reproduced in 
some form. That which the hand does, the soul had 
a share in, and therefore there exists an etheric 
counterpart.” 

Continuing this subject in its bearing upon life in the 
underworld, my father said :— 

"There is an interesting aspect of this, but one 
difficult to explain. Such objects are not all in 
existence at the same time, not in complete existence 
—I cannot find the word I need—let us suppose that 
a man painted an evil picture twenty years ago ; 
its etheric duplicate would not have been in actual 
existence all that time. Yet, when he passed over, he 
would automatically recreate that picture, it would be 
in harmony with the conditions in which he then 
found himself. How shall I describe its existence in 
the meantime ? To simplify the explanation we will 
say that it existed in his thought. 

“ But during the interval between creating that 
picture and his passing, the artist might become a 
changed man and incapable of producing such a 
picture. In that case he would not go to the sphere 
where such objects could be recreated. The penitent 
and changed man could not go to the low sphere; 
but if one qualifies for the low sphere he will find his 
works there and will live with them again. 

" I do not say that he will there be tempted by his 



234 The Place and Condition of the Unprogressed 

former sin, but that he will be surrounded by evidences, 
reminders of it, until he wearies at the sight. On 
earth the sin is gilded, but there it is seen ugly, naked 
and unattractive. 

“ There is more to add. The man we have described, 
by way of illustration, might decide to destroy his 
objectionable picture from motives of policy or fear. 
But if it should be destroyed for such reasons merely, 
it is not really destroyed at all; it still exists in all its 
details, and he will find it after his passing over. 
But should he feel remorse for having created such a 
work, he is destroying it with his soul. Soul force was 
used in creating his picture and nothing but his soul 
force can permanently destroy it. He cannot effec¬ 
tually destroy his picture for any mere earthly reason, 
such as public opinion ; its destruction is only achieved 
by an honest loathing of his soul for that which is 
wrong/' 

Here I remarked that, if this were so, it were well that 
the fact should be made widely known. 

Father: We are endeavouring to let it be known. The 
first step is to make clear that there is another world. 
Many a man does not know that he has a soul. He 
knows his body and brain, he does not quite know what 
his mind may be, and his soul he does not know at all. 
But were he once made certain that he lives on after 
physical death he would know his soul's reality. Once 
assured of that, he would learn many things of vital 
value to him. 

Shortly after this conversation I sought to elicit further 
reference to the result after death of ill deeds committed 
here. My question was phrased thus :— 

“ What recompense does the bully meet with; one 
who loved to exert physical violence on others ? 
Will he be surrounded by those who find pleasure in 
treating him in a similar way ? " 



The Place and Condition of the Unprogressed 235 

It may be of interest to record that I expected an answer 
in the affirmative, and was quite unprepared for the reply 
given. 

Father : He will meet with no physical violence, but with 
a corresponding extreme of mental violence. On those 
low planes one would feel the current of such thoughts 
as if receiving an actual blow on earth. 

C.D.T.: Does that type of man retain his wish for evil, 
or, at least, the habit of thought which led to evil here ? 
Father: A man's will is not so prominent on the lower 
spheres as it was when he lived on earth. God gave 
man freewill in the physical body, but there is less 
volition in wrong-doers on the other side. There, the 
human will is more under the divine influence and 
there is less temptation to evil. Those on the lower 
spheres have less freedom of will than we have on the 
higher spheres. By using the will amiss while on earth 
its power has been limited; there is less freedom in 
using it until progress has been made. 

A man may continue for a long time in the same 
frame of mind as when he left earth. He does not 
become worse, however. He sees his sins reflected in 
others. 

G.D.T.: Do you consider that there is any likelihood of a 
man continuing to resist the divine will interminably ? 
Father: I do not think so. 


L.B.D. 


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CHAPTER XXVII 


THE INFLUENCE OF THE SITTER 

The sitter is an important factor in psychic communication; 
his physical condition and his mental attitude react upon 
the medium and control* Should he be ill or weary there 
is small likelihood of a good sitting. Anyone who is over¬ 
whelmed by grief makes communication difficult, though 
emotion which is under control may assist. 

I am not aware that a sceptical attitude of mind makes 
any appreciable difference, so long as the manner is civil, 
kindly and tactful, and the sitter is careful to speak as he 
would if conversing with visible communicators. Anyone 
who imagines that the control may be a “ secondary person¬ 
ality” of the medium, and the communicators merely 
dramatisations of the mind, would be well advised to take 
the speakers at their own valuation; at least, so long as the 
sitting lasts. By so doing he gives them opportunity to 
prove their identity. During the sitting it is essential to 
remain receptive; indeed, if justice is to be done to the 
occasion, careful notes should be made of all that is said. 
Some of the best evidence is often discovered when examin¬ 
ing such records afterwards. 

Tension of interest causes no obstruction while one 
remains passive. But to ply the communicator with a 
series of questions, or to be ardently expecting or wishing 
for some particular name or subject, makes, as we have 
seen, a confusion of the mental atmosphere which may 
baffle the speaker and obstruct the passage of his thought 
to the control. 

Should the sitting drag, one can sometimes impart fresh 
vivacity by introducing a new topic, either by question or 
by an expression of interest or curiosity. 

My father said on one occasion:— 

236 



The Influence of the Sitter 237 

‘ We never know when coming here that our pre¬ 
pared material will be available. Some of the best 
we have given had not been prepared. Conversation 
with us may fit in and give ground upon which we can 
base what we have to give. Those whom Feda terms 
‘ deaf and dumb sitters ’ are unlikely to provide good 
groundwork. Sitters should talk with us in an 
ordinary manner, without giving away information. 
Such talk helps us. When first I came here I used to 
give plentiful evidence of identity; you did not give 
things away, but you used to talk of the pleasure it 
gave you." 

Sudden questions may be difficult to meet under ordinary 
conditions of life, and they often create confusion at a 
sitting. 

My father has said:— 

“ The things we give voluntarily are usually the 
Dest. We know what we can give ; but when asked 
to supplement it, in response to questions, we have 
to conform to your conditions. It is like having to 
pour our thoughts into moulds which you prepare and 
which are not our moulds. It is difficult to explain; 
but, as a rule, it is best that you should take what we 
can give. Questions are difficult in a peculiar way. 
As you are aware, we can often tell you things far 
more difficult than those for which you ask. In using 
the term ‘ moulds 1 I mean a form of words and 
selection of thoughts." 

And my sister said once :— 

u It is difficult to explain, but the expectation by 
you of some particular thing seems to impinge on some 
veiy delicate thought-fabric which we are weaving, 
and spoils it, so that we cannot gather together its 
threads in order. They become knotted up. So the 
advice is, keep passive, and do not think of any 
particular person or thing; that will prevent youi 



238 The Influence of the Sitter 

thought impinging on ours. Everything to do with 
our thought is much more delicate and subtle than 
yours; therefore, our thought should impinge on yours 
and not vice versa . Father says that it would not be 
wise to rub canvas upon the paints; it has to be done 
the other way round. The book and newspaper tests 
were comparatively easy to give, because you could not 
mentally influence what we were transmitting/* 

Some friends of mine had occasionally taken their 
daughter Joyce to share their sittings with Mrs. Leonard. 
My sister Etta was interested in Joyce's approaching 
marriage and had referred to her in a recent sitting. One 
day, while on my way to Mrs. Leonard's house in Hertford¬ 
shire, I saw Joyce in the train and travelled with her. 
The incident then passed out of my thought until Etta, 
during Feda's control, made a very definite statement that 
I had just seen someone in whom both she and I were 
interested. She proceeded to elaborate until there needed 
only the addition of the name Joyce to complete the 
evidence of her knowledge of our meeting that morning. 
I therefore pressed for the name, and when Etta said that 
this was beyond her power, I inquired where the difficulty 
lay. u Partly in you and partly in Feda," she answered. 
“ Then, if I thought of something else, say the moon/' 
I asked, “ would it make a better chance of your giving the 
name ? " Etta said, “ Do so, and I'll try later on to give 
it." So I put it from my mind, and waited to write notes 
of whatever might come next; and these words were then 
slowly spoken: “ I hope it will help Joyce 
My readers will have gathered that there is a purpose 
underlying the characteristic interruptions and little re¬ 
marks which Feda makes. They are calculated to break 
the tense concentration of the sitter's mind. Something 
similar is found in group sittings where singing or light 
conversation is asked for; those who complain that this 
causes waste of time, or that it is in bad taste, are unaware 
that they are being helped to hold the easy mental attitude 
without which the whole purpose of the sitting may be 
defeated. 



The Influence of the Sitter 239 

Again, it is useless to sit with a closed mind, watching 
for nothing but a confirmation of prejudice. This attitude, 
especially with people of forceful and positive mentality, 
destroys the delicate thought-fabric essential to com¬ 
munication. 

I quote from my records the following fragment of 
conversation:— 

C.D.T.: Can you tell me, Feda, how you distinguish 
between thoughts coming from the communicator, and 
those in the sitter's mind ? 

Feda: It is a different feeling altogether, very different. 
Have trained myself to lean towards the communicator 
and to shut off the sitter. Feda does not like sitters 
to be in front of the medium, but likes to have the 
communicator in front. I concentrate on just that 
place and so shut off other places. Your father says, 
“ Even that would not prevent Feda getting a thought 
and not knowing it was from the sitter, if the latter 
happened to be willing something very strongly. A 
sitter might will his thought fifty times and miss, but 
Feda might accidentally take it the fifty-first time.” 
G.D.T. ; And would not Feda realise from whom it came ? 
Feda : He says, not unless she were very careful and on 
the watch for interference. 

Feda then confided to me an experience which related to 
a strong-minded lady who held certain ideas so firmly as 
to make it impossible for her husband, who was communi¬ 
cating, to state the contrary. He ceased communicating 
to save unavoidably misleading her. In this incident of 
the positively-minded lady we see how easily strong pre¬ 
possessions can warp the truth. 

Feda; Your father says, “ It seems to me that only a 
certain portion of the sensitised region here at a 
sitting can be used and filled at once. If you fill and 
use it, then we cannot. It is as if we had canvas and 
paint, but you seized them and started to paint some¬ 
thing you wished pictured. Then, we are foiled. We 



240 The Influence of the Sitter 

should have to scrape off or paint over what you had 
put there. I have come to realise that only lately." 
(Note.—This was in our eleventh year of sitting.) 

He says it is like double exposure; it does not help 
when two impressions are on the same plate. There 
is confusion. It does not do for you, as a sitter, to 
fill the sensitised area with the impressions of what 
you wish. 

I say nothing of those who designedly make false state¬ 
ments to the control; except that they may find reason to 
recall the proverb: “ A fool is answered according to his 
folly." 

Let me, in concluding this chapter, give a quotation 
which embodies much which a sitter needs to know:— 

“ It is easier for us to read your mind when away 
from here than it would be during a sitting. It is 
supposed by some that a medium reads the mind of 
the sitter; but one has only to experiment to discover 
how difficult it is for us to answer questions. We can 
sail along, giving details quite unknown to you ; but 
if you suddenly ask a simple question which comes into 
your mind, it presents a difficulty to us. Now, if we 
were reading your mind there would not be that 
difficulty. 

“ During a sitting we are bent on keeping intact the 
link between ourselves and the control; for if we lost 
it through giving too much attention to you, it would 
be difficult to regain. It is as a thread which will 
stretch a little, but if taken round you as well as the 
medium, it would break. A question often breaks the 
thread of our thought and we have to drop the topic. 
We can often create another and substitute it for the 
other quite quickly. We do not mind your asking 
questions, because we know that, if we do not take 
them up, you will understand that there was a reason. 
But some sitters would feel distressed and disappointed, 
which makes it hard for their communicator. Oui 
feeling of absolute ease with you makes it possible for 



The Influence of the Sitter 241 

us to do our best. We know you will not be distressed 
if we cannot do what you ask at some particular 
moment/’ 

Toward the close of my tenth year of investigation I 
remarked to my father while he was controlling :— 

I have been studying afresh the difficulties of 
communication, all I have noticed here, and all that 
you have told me of the processes involved in giving 
your messages. How different is the reality from my 
first ideas of it; for then I pictured you coming as a 
shining presence and talking with perfect freedom to 
Feda.” 

He replied:— 

“ I think it will be a long while before communica¬ 
tion becomes as easy as you pictured it. But it 
should grow much easier when we have a more perfect 
type of medium and of sitter; people who can attune 
their mind to the requisite degree.” 



CHAPTER XXVIII 


“ WHERE I AM THERE SHALL ALSO MY SERVANT BE.” 

Words of Jesus recorded in John xii. 26. 

Father: On passing from earth I realised my expectation 
of feeling a consciousness of God. One's God-conscious¬ 
ness is increased; it is clearer and He seems nearer, 
as I had anticipated—a part of Him, a small part. 
C.D.T.: Did you see Our Lord as soon and as easily as 
you had expected ? 

Father: Not as soon, nor as easily, but yet as I had expected 
to see Him. One had to prepare; it is always so. 
We are, however, more conscious of Him at all times 
than when on earth. Those visits to the seventh 
sphere are most wonderful; more so than the physical 
brain could imagine. Yet, although so wonderful, it 
does not surprise; for one feels as if having been 
waiting for it all one’s life, as if it were the natural 
consummation of all one’s aspirations and endeavours, 
both while on earth and there. 

When mentioning that my father and sister converse 
with me from the other side of death, I am sometimes 
asked whether they say that they have seen Jesus Christ. 
The following is an answer to that question. Although my 
notes are not absolutely verbatim, they embody many of 
the actual phrases used, and reproduce in correct outline 
the gist of the narration. 

But what cannot be reproduced is the intensity and thrill 
with which my father and sister told their experience. It 
was surcharged with deep emotion. The sentences re¬ 
cording their actual sight of Our Lord were given very 
slowly, a pause between each word, and with utmost 
reverence and impressiveness. I do not recall having 
heard anything which touched so high a level of intensity 

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44 Where I am there shall also my Servant be ” 243 

and spiritual joy. It was inimitable; only a faint echo 

of its reality can be conveyed by the printed page. 

Father: Etta and I have been to the seventh sphere. I 
do not like the word “ sphere ” and should prefer to 
say " condition/* but suppose we must call it “ sphere ” 
in the absence of any term which would be better 
understood. Can I explain to you that this seventh 
is the outermost sphere, or condition, of what we call 
our world? Life there is realised more impersonally; 
I mean that one's whole work and activity on that 
sphere would be solely for the good of others. There 
would be no personal bias there; selfish aims or 
ambitions would be impossible. 

It is there that Our Lord is present in a personal or 
individual sense, manifesting in a form that responds 
to one's finite ideas of Him, a form that one can see 
and touch. 

I think I have previously explained that on my own 
sphere I can be conscious of Him in a way that is 
much surer and closer than yours. May I illustrate 
the difference by saying that you can observe a fire 
and know that it is a fire, although you are far away 
from it. Whereas we, being much nearer, are able to 
feel its warmth, in addition to seeing its glow. Men on 
earth do not, save in rare exceptions, see Him with 
the eye, or hear Him with the ear ; you are dependent 
for your consciousness of Him upon the higher per¬ 
ceptive powers, which you are not at all times able 
to use. But we, on the other hand, can realise Him 
at any time by hearing or by visualisation. We enjoy 
greater powers of perception. 

G.D.T .: Do you mean that you can picture Jesus to your¬ 
self ? Or is it that you actually obtain a clairvoyant 
glimpse of Him and observe what He may be doing 
at the moment ? 

Father: “ Clairvoyant vision ” would correctly describe 
it. I am able to see what He is doing at the moment. 
Many persons on earth have the ability to obtain 
occasional glimpses of us. But we have the advantage 



244 “ Where I am there shall also my Servant he ” 

of seeing those above us whenever we so desire . Were I 
about to engage in difficult work, say a mission of help 
to those on a lower sphere, I should first visualise Our 
Lord and draw to myself actual power through 
consciousness of Him. As you draw strength in 
prayer, so do we continually draw much greater 
strength from our realisation of Him. Etta wishes to 
add something to that. 

Etta: Our surroundings aid us in this easier realisation of 
Our Lord. On earth, one was hampered by distrac¬ 
tions and anxieties, not always selfish ones, but 
thoughts and difficulties about others, as well as 
personal perplexities. But here, where we now are, 
we can see our way so much more easily and clearly. 
When I visualise Our Lord there seems to come an 
actual light, like a search-light or something of that 
kind, and this shines into my mind, illuminating any¬ 
thing that might have perplexed or seemed difficult 
to me. And that which I have alluded to as a light 
comes to me whenever I visualise Our Lord's face, or 
call to mind his voice or touch. Whenever we do 
this we seem to attract the light which illuminates 
every difficulty and everything we have to do. 

C.D.T. : Are you able to describe what you saw when on 
the seventh sphere ? 

Father: After arriving there we found ourselves moving 
with a multitude which converged from all directions 
towards one point. Neither Etta nor I knew why we 
set our faces in that direction, we simply felt impelled. 
Presently we noticed that one and another stopped; 
we learnt later that they had been able to feel, see, and 
hear Our Lord without moving nearer ; for realisation 
no longer depended on, what you would understand 
by, measurements of distance. 

And then, we saw Rim too . When saying, “ I saw 
Him " I am speaking in the same sense as that in 
which you would use the words if telling me that you 
had seen some friend in your house. I saw his face, 
his hair, his form. Pictures on earth have not des¬ 
cribed Him very accurately. Or perhaps it is that 



“ Where I am there shall also my Servant he ” 245 

his spiritual body so far surpasses anything that was 
possible to his more limited body on earth. It is 
indescribable; for it contains and reflects the power, 
and the beauty, and the love of Our Heavenly Father. 
Words convey but little to you when I say that his 
features are beautiful. A great majesty, together 
with great sweetness and humility, radiate from Him, 
as a light shining through a globe . 1 

Etta: You might have expected that we should bow, or 
fall upon our knees. But I did not want to do that, 
I wanted to look up ; the feeling was to lift myself to 
Him. To kneel, to bow the head, is fitting while on 
earth. But we felt as the flowers may feel which turn 
towards the sun, instinctively upward to the sun. 

He spoke . . . That which He said I am unable to 
repeat here. I can only tell you that what He said 
would help me, that its recollection would remain 
within me for all eternity, even if I never saw or 
heard Him in that way again. Try to recall those 
brief flashes, coming at rare intervals on earth, of 
complete consciousness of good, of everything being 
just as it should be. Well, I now had that complete 
realisation of a goodness, therefore of God, in every¬ 
thing. This experience came to me through Him, 
through that spiritual body of Our Lord which I was 
seeing and hearing with my actual senses, in the same 
way that I see father. I then felt that I was able to 
symbolise or interpret God in everything around me, 
and not only there, but even in the things of earth. 
I felt during those moments as if I understood every¬ 
thing ; as if a spirit of life, flowing through Jesus to 
me, explained even ugliness and sin, as well as beauty 
and goodness. I felt only hope and ultimate good for 
everything. . . . Even now, under these very different 
conditions, I can feel the glow of that wonderful 
presence, that revelation. It was, indeed, a com¬ 
plete realisation. The trouble on earth is just the 

x In the above description Feda seemed to experience considerable difficulty* 
and made frequent pauses. The words used to assert the personal sight of 
Our IyOrd were given one by one, very slowly, and with great reverence and 
impressiveness. 



246 “ Whe re I am there shall also my Servant be ” 

lack of this, the absence of a complete realisation of 
God under any and every circumstance. Here we feel 
that at all times; but on this occasion we realised it 
in a different way, in a more personal sense. 

Among those present were many of the great and 
outstanding who passed through their earth experience 
long ago . . . the Apostles and Mary . . . those of 
whom we had read and thought. You would think 
it so wonderful to actually see them that you might 
scarcely know where you were. Well, it is, and yet 
it is not. Although so wonderful it did not seem at 
all strange to me ; for, as you well know, these great 
spirits had been living realities to me for years before 
I left earth. I had thought of them, and had wondered 
about them. Hence, I had come to know them sub¬ 
consciously. When people whom you have never seen 
on earth live in your imagination, you become subcon¬ 
sciously prepared for meeting them in reality. And that 
is why on each occasion when I have seen Our Lord, 
even including the first time, and when I saw the 
Apostles, and Mary, I felt to be meeting in a new way 
those whom, in another way, I had often met before. 

When you think of me, and when you remember 
what I thought of things—and you knew partly, 
more than the others did—you can imagine what this 
experience means to me, and may even understand 
why it has not seemed strange. 

When we returned to our own sphere it did not seem 
a going back, but a going forward. Even our home 
looked different to us, the very atmosphere seemed 
to have grown brighter, and our movements lighter. 
Everything seemed to have taken on an additional 
power and joy from our wonderful experience. 

Then we came straight to you. While on my own 
sphere I had thought that you might catch the radiance 
from us when we came near you. But on coming I 
found it was not so. The conditions of earth life make 
it difficult for you to catch my joy, and it is impossible 
foT me to convey to you any clear impression of it, 
seeing that I have to limit myself to words alone. 



CHAPTER XXIX 


SOUL AND SPIRIT 

When we had reached the stage of easy conversation in 
these trance sittings, and had dealt exhaustively with the 
evidential side of the communications, I took opportunity 
to ask my father and sister if they now knew more about 
man's nature than was common knowledge on earth. 
Their talks upon soul and spirit were resumed from time 
to time. I have selected typical extracts which outline 
the substance of the teaching given. 

It was necessary at the outset to agree upon the meaning 
of the terms used. We decided to call the highest within 
man, “ spirit," and to use the word “ soul " for the ego, 
or self. By the “ etheric body " is meant that vehicle of 
the soul which interpenetrates the mortal body and survives 
death. (In Theosophical literature this term is used in a 
somewhat different sense). The words " subliminal" and 
“ subconscious " refer to unconscious mental activity. 

Let us first see what was said of the soul and its invisible 
body. Here are some quotations from my father :— 

“ The soul is the child of spirit and body . . . For 
the purpose of creating individual man, a part of God, 
Spirit, is divorced from God and allies itself with a 
physical body." 

“ Personality is a child of the spirit and the body, 
bom by Spirit coming into contact with a physical 
body. Universal Spirit is of course impersonal, or 
non-personal might be the better word. A detached 
part of this Universal Spirit, attaching itself to a new 
physical organism, gradually becomes personal through 
contact with conditions which you term ' life/ Some 

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248 Soul and Spirit 

develop personality more quickly than do others. 
Backward children are the less developed person¬ 
alities.” 

" Some people fear that they will be less complete 
when out of the body than they now are while within 
it. The physical body seems so essential; the idea 
of being detached from it gives them the feeling of 
loss, or being less well off than before. This is quite 
a wrong idea. The unseen body, which exists all the 
time you are in the physical body, has much greater 
power when set free. It has not much power while 
within the physical body, because personality then 
functions in the physical, and not in the invisible one, 
save in sleep. During moments of inspiration or 
prayer one functions for a moment consciously in 
the spiritual body. During more than n| out of 
12 waking hours one is in the physical condition. 
When personality and soul are freed from the physical, 
one is immediately in a similar body, but one which has 
indeed added powers of feeling, of appreciation, and 
even of movement/' 

“All your mind is not in, or acting upon, your 
brain at once. You have your conscious and sub¬ 
conscious mind; that which is outside and registers 
memory is the subconscious. By * outside' I mean 
something not operating in the brain at the moment. 
Conscious mind is that which operates in the brain at 
the moment. Directly it has finished, it naturally 
passes back into the subconscious. The subconscious 
is memory's storehouse. I think that a better term 
for subconscious would be superconscious; for sub 
suggests that which is under, a subservient mind, 
which it is not. It is the more powerful of the two. 
I would rather speak of it as the over mind, and not 
the under mind.” 

Sometimes I asked questions, and these were always 
readily answered, as in the following conversation :— 



Soul and Spirit 249 

O.Z>.T.: You once said that at death the memories of 
physical body and psychic body are withdrawn into 
the soul. Have you now normally the soul's memory 
and also a psychic body memory ? 

Father: No; one cannot express it in that way. I seem 
to have but one memory. I have the ordinary memory 
of physical things that I had on earth, and this is 
merged into the subliminal memory which operates 
consciously here. When one passes over, one's sub¬ 
liminal memory operates consciously. Your conscious 
mind is really soul, a part of the subliminal, but a part 
projected on to the brain. The brain would not hold 
all the memory, all the subliminal, but only a limited 
part of it. 

C.D.r.: How is the subliminal mind related to the soul ? 

Father: I think it is an expression of it, as ripples are a 
part of the water. One cannot separate them. 

G.D.T.: That seems to explain your having but one 
memory now and not two. 

Father: Consider the prodigies who do certain things 
marvellously, say mathematics or music. They have 
consciously developed touch with their subliminal, 
but only along one line; they are not versatile. One 
child will do figures without trouble which others can 
only do in a long time upon paper. That special 
power comes through being able to touch the subliminal 
mind just along one line. 

C.D.r.; They somehow get at it along that one line. 

Father: Without knowing how; like a child who learns 
by experience that a certain string pulled will give out 
a certain sound ; he knows how to produce the effect, 
but does not know why the result comes. Ardent 
students do it upon their particular line; they master 
it, and their subconscious self is in touch with vibra¬ 
tions of the universal inspiration and creative power. 
You can portray in all art and science if only you can 
touch the requisite key-note of your subliminal mind. 
Some without learning how, do things which others 
cannot accomplish even with toil. They touch their 
subconscious self; “ It just came to me," says the artist 



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Etta: The people who have great difficulties who are not 
happy in themselves, erratic people, are those whose 
conscious and subconscious selves are out of touch, 
out of harmony. The less these two are in touch, 
the more out of harmony feels the life. When in 
easy touch with the subconscious it is a wonderful 
thing; for a man's soul remembers a large range ol 
facts and experiences which he can draw upon at any 
moment. 

Father: We sometimes know things now which our sub¬ 
conscious mind may have known on earth, but which 
our conscious mind did not. For example : say that 
someone has robbed me and that I was unaware of 
it and thought the money had been lost in the ordinary 
course of business. On passing over I should realise 
that I had been robbed, and should know the whole 
truth about it. People can diagnose the disease ol 
which they died. Say they died under an operation 
and did not know the cause of the disease ; on arrival 
here they could become aware of it. Your mind can 
get knowledge from the subconscious sometimes, but 
in our sphere we can always do so. 


The following extracts treat of the spirit in man. 

Etta said:— 

“ The spirit, like yeast in bread, is always energising 
to uplift, to make perfect and to work through." 


G.D.T.: Is my consciousness of the soul ? 

Father: Yes. 

G.D.T,: Has my spirit a self consciousness ? ✓ 

Father : I would not say so; its consciousness is God's and 
it works through you into consciousness. It is not a 
consciousness in itself, nor in you, but is God's, God 
is conscious in you, by means of the spirit which is 



Soul and Spirit 2$l 

part of his consciousness dwelling within you and 
animating you. People wonder if it is possible that 
God sees them do this or that little act of good or bad. 
“ How can he keep His mind's eye on me, how can it 
matter to Him ? " It is because of a part of His 
consciousness which is in you, and which came from 
Him. 

C.D.T .: And which is permanently in touch with Him ? 

Father: Yes. 

C.D.T .: Is it the action of the spirit on our soul which 
certain texts allude to ; as, for example: “ The spirit 
of God beareth witness with our spirit ? ” 

Father: Perfectly right. Many puzzles in Scripture are 
made easier of understanding by these studies. The 
Holy Spirit works in us the whole time, and is part of, 
is an expression of, God. If I could say it is “ a soul- 
power" of God—comparing ourselves with Him—I 
would say so; because the Holy Spirit is a part of 
Himself, an expression of His personality, it is of 
Himself. 


Father: Spirit has one great memory, the memory of God. 

C.D.T.: Do you mean that it remembers that it is from 
God? 

Father: Yes, it remembers that it knows what God is, 
in a way that neither soul nor body can know. Spirit 
is of God. The spirit must have a consciousness of 
God, more than any other part of man ; because it is 
of God, purely, entirely and solely of God. 

C.D.T .: When after your passing you found yourself in 
closer touch with the spirit within, what difference 
did you notice ? 

Father: It made me more acutely conscious of God and of 
a spiritual universe. On earth I was conscious that 
there was God, but I was less acutely conscious of Him. 
It is easier for the soul after death to link up entirely 
with the spirit. It is more conscious of the spirit then, 
and shares more of the spirit's consciousness. 

While the soul is within the earthly body it must be, 

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a 52 Soul and Spirit 

say fifty per cent, natural and fifty per cent, spiritual 
—put it that way. Soul must have a strong bias 
towards the material, must operate through it, must 
be conscious of and be influenced by it. Otherwise 
you get dreamers, idlers, idealists who spend time 
and strength in theorising and not practising. You 
must have the balance. And yet, having the balance 
is a drawback to the soul in one sense, because it 
undoubtedly prevents one from being in that complete 
union with the spirit which it attains when freed 
from physical flesh. 


Father: The spirit cannot be evil or ugly. 

G.D.T. .* Do you mean that spirit is always good ? 

Father: Spirit is the one part which belongs entirely to 
God. 

G.D.T.: But it sins with the soul and with the physical 
body. 

Father: No, no. Spirit cannot do evil, but can be pre¬ 
vented from doing good. It is the free will of man 
which accomplishes the evil. 

G.D.T.: But by “ Will ” do we not mean the spirit giving 
orders ? 

Father: Will is not the spirit, but can become the right 
hand of the spirit if used habitually for good. Spirit 
is pure and comes to the physical body at birth. 
There are many offsprings, as Choice, Will, Growth, 
Personality. If Will were spirit, a baby could will 
things, because it has its spirit just as much as grown 
people; but it has to develop Will through growth in 
the physical body. It is not spirit which grows in 
itself, but all which goes to make up the spiritual body 
and the personality. Will-to-do-good can be de¬ 
veloped ; and that brings it more into co-operation 
with the spirit. But a will-to-do-evil can be developed; 
that alienates the will from the spirit and subjects if 
to the lower physical. The spirit is never dominated 
by evil, never; the will may be, it is not forced to be, 
yet can be, but the spirit never is. 



Soul and Spirit 253 

6.D.T.: I want to base a question on your recent remark 
that spirit cannot do evil. What, then, is the spirit's 
condition when a person of evil life passes to the realms 
of discipline and gloom ? Is spirit there a higher 
personality which suffers with its more material 
partner, the spiritual body and soul ? If so, is there 
a dual consciousness there ? 

Father: Spirit may suffer through wrong done by the 
spiritual body. It is not any worse for a spirit there 
than when attached to that body on earth. But it is 
a great thing, I strongly feel, for the spirit when the 
soul has worked out its salvation through the physical 
body, for it takes longer to do it on our side; men are 
sent on earth to develop the soul through contact with 
physical conditions. 

O.D.T.: Would an evil man there be in closer touch with 
his spirit ? 

Father : Yes, when he realises where he is ; many do not, 
especially those who have not trained themselves to 
think while on earth. It is important to get right 
habits of thought; for these determine state and 
condition there. Not the impulse for good, but the 
habit of good, is the thing which tells. Spirit is pure. 
It is of God, and knows the source from whence it 
came, and to which it will unquestionably work back 
again, and so it is, in a way of its own, happy. 

C.D.r.; Would a sinner be conscious of that happiness ? 

Father: No, save momentary gleams such as men have on 
earth, I am sometimes sent to help on lower spheres ; 
at first they seemed very low. The people could not 
see us, and yet to some extent they felt us ; it was a 
feeling of being in touch subconsciously, intuitively, 
with a higher soul, and it put them in touch with their 
own higher self, that is to say, with their spirit. In 
that condition they would have gleams of momentary 
desire to rise to some place or state to which their 
spirit belongs. 


6.D.T .; What part does our spirit play in our progress ? 



2 £4 <SW/ and Spirit 

Does it, rather than the mind, catch the higher inspira¬ 
tions and transmit them to our consciousness ? 

Etta: Spirit is so much a part of God it never loses its 
connection with God. Divine life is flowing all the 
time and replenishing the spirit. Your spirit lights 
up your body as long as it is within, as long as you 
have bodily life. Spirit does not speak with your 
mouth or look with your eyes, but helps, controls, gives 
life to the soul and personality which is what speaks 
and acts through you. 

C.D.r.; The spirit then is less personal ? 

Etta: Less ? It is never really personal. It is incorrect 
to say “ I recognise that spirit as my father.” It is 
the spirit tody which is recognised. You cannot 
recognise any one by their spirit. Spirit does not 
change, but develops clothing; like an artist's canvas 
which gets a picture on it. When completed, can you 
say which is picture and which is canvas ? Both are 
united, it is a combination. Spirit is the foundation, 
the impersonal foundation. Yet, when painted on, it 
is difficult to say “ the canvas is quite separate,” and 
the soul is like a picture painted on the spirit canvas; 
but soul does the painting, grows itself. Soul can 
learn to like evil, which spirit cannot do. 

C.D.T.: Have you learnt this from others or realised it? 

Etta : Both. But being taught brings about a realisation 
here as it often did not on earth. Spirit is from God; 
and the rest is grown, Le., Soul, Mind, Will, through 
combination of spirit with matter. Activities of the 
soul are Will, Emotions, Mind, Intellect. The Will is 
like the head, and Emotions like limbs of the soul. 

I must tell you about the reaction of spirit, the only 
adverse way in which spirit can be affected. If mind 
is always being appealed to in a wrong way through 
the senses, it makes very bad and impossible conditions 
for the spirit. We look on it as a shrinkage, as if you 
picture the gas turned down so that the light shines 
less. The condition is bad. But father says, a 
better simile would be that of a fog and a clear atmos¬ 
phere ; evil to the spirit is like a fog to the light. It 



Soul and Spirit 255 

cannot kill spirit but limits it, till there comes a time 
when spirit is so limited in force that it takes time to 
get through to the body when it gets a chance. Drink, 
for example; if a man would pull up early, spirit 
could manifest strongly. Afterwards, title spirit could 
not do so much in a week of abstinence as in a very 
brief time previously. It is habitual evil which is so 
bad, because it makes the body so bad an instrument 
for spirit to manifest in, like a rusty machine. 

Shortly after the above conversation I resumed the 

subject by saying to my father:— 

“ I was much interested in talking with Etta last 
time and should like to go over the same ground with 
you. What part does our spirit play in our progress ? 
Does it, rather than our mind, catch the higher 
inspirations and transmit them to our consciousness ?” 

Father: Yes. 

C.D.T.: Does it try " to get through ” its wishes and 
wisdom to our conscious mind ? 

Father: Yes, but not personally. Eliminate the idea of 
effort and personal endeavour. 

G.D.T.: Is our spirit like a sort of “ control/' always 
trying to control, but much thwarted in its effort to 
bring through into our actions that which it 
desires ? 

Father: I will take the last question first. Not what it 
desires, but what it is and that which it is part of. 
The spirit works all the time to bring about a mani¬ 
festation of the divine life of which it is a part. The 
spirit has no personal wish or desire, but tends to 
manifest God in us all the time. My spirit is not 
changeable; only the material in which it works, 
i.e. y soul, is changeable. 

GJD.T .: Is the same spark of God in me now which I have 
had all the time ? 

Father: Yes, and so there is ever the opportunity to 
become spiritual; it is never withdrawn or differing 
in kind or degree. 



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C.D.T.: You may remember it used to be preached that a 
man could lose the spirit ? 

Father: Yes, one may make it so difficult for spirit to 
show itself. When body and soul so live that spirit 
is out of hearing, because they are out of God’s ways, 
then very little of spirit can manifest through them. 
One could say then, that “ the spirit is withdrawn/' 
but, literally, it is only that we have ejected and 
rejected it. There is an important thing to explain 
here ; spirit itself is not changeable, as I said before, 
but can transmit many wonderful powers and qualities 
from God to you, such as love, sympathy, pity. 
Understand, that it is a channel for these gifts. One 
who lives such a life that his body, mind and soul are 
in harmony with the spirit which exists in him, can 
receive anything ; the more he fits himself to receive, 
the more he will receive. It is one interpretation of, 
“ Unto him that hath shall be given.” The more you 
desire to receive, the more you can receive. There is 
no limit to the receiving you may have, and it is 
perfectly true that “ from him that hath not shall be 
taken away ”; which amount to this—if one keeps 
completely out of harmony with the spirit which is 
in him, then not only can he not receive more, but he 
will lose,—not his spirit, but the faculty of attracting 
spiritual things to his mind and soul, through the 
spirit. 

C.D.T. ; What is the relation of the Holy Spirit to this ? 

Father : True, again. It is as closely affecting us as does 
sap the outer branches of a tree. You see, it is through 
the spirit in us that we keep our connection with God, 
remain linked with God. 

C.D.T.: He keeps Himself in touch with my spirit; but 
what is meant by “ touch ” ? 

Father: God is conscious of all which He animates. You 
do not think in your finger, it is an extremity, but you 
are conscious of what happens in it. Your centre of 
being is not in finger or toe, but in your head, that is 
your centre of consciousness for what happens to the 
toe. Yet, it seems so far from the seat of consciousness. 



Soul and Spirit 257 

You are as an extremity of God's, as, say, a finger. 
The seat of his consciousness is not in you, but it is 
aware of what happens in His extremities. God 
knows everything, even the least little thing you da 
or think, and knows it through the mediumship of 
His consciousness in you, i.e. t His spirit in you, which 
is “ your spirit" so called. Really “ my spirit ” means 
the Divine Spirit in me; but a part which has been 
semi-isolated in me, yet never disconnected from its 
source any more than is a branch from its tree. 
When the body is discarded you have a spiritual body, 
that is to say, one which is more akin to the Divine 
Spirit, more sensitive to His operation. But if He 
has not been permitted to manifest Himself through 
the earthly body, the etheric body will be unsuitable 
for His manifestation, the latter being dominated for 
some time after death by the habits of its physical 
body. That which is done in the earthly body 
modifies, for better or for worse, the etheric body. 
The penalty of an ill life consists in certain qualities of 
the etheric body which limit and hinder when a man 
passes over. 

One can speak in this way of the etheric body as 
something by itself. But it must be realised that 
one's soul and its etheric body are inseparable. Just 
as you manifest on earth by means of, and through, the 
physical body, so do you on passing over, manifest in 
and through the etheric or spiritual body. The habits 
of the soul are perpetuated and made manifest in its 
essential body; that body which, during life on 
earth, was being modified and stamped by the actions 
and quality of the soul. 

Q.D.T.: Does the spirit try to “ get through ” its wishes 
and wisdom to our conscious mind ? 

Father: Not its wishes, that would be a wrong term; 
because it is impersonal, and there cannot be desires 
in an impersonal condition. Neither say “ try ”; 
for it is, that is all one can say of the spirit. It is 
somewhat misleading to call it your spirit; say your 
mind, body, soul, but not your spirit; for really it is 



258 Soul and Spirit 

God's spirit in you, permanently in you. We do not 
say “the body or the arm which belongs to the fingers," 
but “ fingers which belong to the body " ; it is not 
the tree which belongs to the leaves, but the leaves 
belong to the tree. Spirit is the expression of God in 
you, therefore now yours in a personal sense, yet you 
need not think of it quite in the possessive sense. 
The text, “ the spirit of God beareth witness with our 
spirit," really means information coming from God, 
via the spirit to one's soul. Popularly, “spirit" is 
used for “ soul," whereas it is actually the life of the 
soul, the animating principle. 

Man could lose his soul, for it is his own to lose; 
but not so the spirit within him. Yet, the word 
“ lose " is misleading in that connection. One cannot 
permanently lose it; so the reality would be better 
expressed by “ injure " or “ suffer loss." We must 
remind people that physical life is a very short period 
compared with eternity, the life of soul and spirit. 
C.D.T.: Is the spirit always trying to control, but much 
thwarted in its efforts to bring through into our 
actions that which it desired ? 

Father: Eliminate the idea of personal effort. GOD is 
and can be anything He chooses to be. His effort is 
synonymous with spiritual gravitation towards good. 
His love is not in our spirit itself, but is transmitted 
through that spirit which is an expression of His 
personality, not of ours. His love and desire for oui 
happiness run through the channel of our spirit all 
the time. All the time he draws us toward Himself 
through the mediumship of the spirit within us. 

I am told by some to whom I have submitted this 
chapter that it is, in substance, the view put forward in the 
past by this and by that philosopher. They may be right 
in saying this. It would be strange indeed if, during the 
centuries behind us, none of the thinkers who have wrestled 
with the problem should have glimpsed this particular view. 
To me it appears of little importance whether the explana¬ 
tions here offered are new or old; and I do not assert that 



Soul and Spirit 259 

they are correct, or the last word upon the mystery of 
man’s triune nature. But I have not before met with 
explanations which gave me so logical and satisfactory an 
account of that which I dimly perceive within myself. 

While on earth, neither my father nor my sister were 
deeply versed in philosophy or psychology, although my 
father was an accurate observer and one of the most 
conscientiously painstaking men I have known. What 
they here tell me is not perhaps expressed in irreproachable 
language; I question whether the medium’s mind would 
furnish suitable words and phrases for achieving this. 
Yet, it seems to me that they have succeeded in expressing 
with clarity the results of personal observation and 
experience. 



CHAPTER XXX 


CAN THE SOUL LEAVE THE BODY DURING SLEEP ? 

It was one of the surprises of my earlier seance talks to be 
told by friends who had died that I often left the body 
during sleep and went away with them. It did not seem 
credible. If it really happened, why did not memory of 
such excursions remain ? I had lived for fifty years 
without suspecting it. If these excursions had been taking 
place would one have remained in total ignorance of the 
fact ? 

I do not accept statements as true merely because they 
come to me through psychic channels. They may have 
been blurred during transmission, or mingled with fancies 
in the medium's mind. When satisfied that they represent 
what the communicator wishes to say, one should furthei 
consider whether it is an opinion that is being expressed, 
or a personal experience. 

For a long time I kept an open mind upon this question 
of sleep travel. The considerations which eventually led 
me to regard it as most probably true include the following: 

1. Experiences of leaving the body, making a short 

journey and returning, are recorded by credible 
witnesses. 

2. Certain hypnotic experiments tend to support this 

claim. 

3. There are instances on record where the sleeper has 

been seen at places distant from his physical body. 

4. My communicators, whose identity is established, 

consistently assert that the soul can do more than 
this; that it sometimes visits higher realms during 
bodily sleep. They give reasoned explanations in 
reply to my questions and objections. 

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Can the Soul leave the Body during Sleep ? 261 

5. The reality of such excursions is not disproved by 

absence of recollection when the sleeper wakes. 

6. Partial recollection is asserted by some; while with 

others it appears to emerge in their dreams. 

Let us take these headings one by one. 

1. Experiences of leaving the body, making a short journey 

and returning, are recorded by credible witnesses . 

These experiences, as recounted by persons of my 
acquaintance, fall into two classes. In the first are vivid 
dreams of getting free from the body and floating away 
over trees and country. The dreamer is able to make 
minute observations. Sometimes the return journey i9 
equally vivid. These excursions seem confined to earth; 
it is the familiar type of country and town which the 
dreamer sees. I say “ dreamer,” but my friends aver that 
these experiences are quite unlike ordinary dreams and 
leave a unique impression after waking. 

In the second class all idea of dream is disclaimed. The 
percipient is apparently awake when suddenly he finds 
himself looking down upon his body. By an act of will 
he moves into the street and observes the passing traffic. 
When repetition has familiarised him with the experience, 
and lessened his earlier timidity, he has been able to travel 
greater distances. His movements, after first issuing from 
the body, seem more or less under control of will. 

Such narratives are chiefly interesting as being supported 
by instances, to be mentioned later, where the narrator's 
impression of visiting a given place is confirmed by the 
observation of those who saw him there. 

2. Hypnotic experiment tends to support this claim of actual 

travelling from the body . 

There have been carefully observed experiments where 
the hypnotised person has been told to go to such and 
such a place and observe what is happening. On comparing 
his report with the result of subsequent inquiries, it has 



262 Can the Soul leave the Body during Sleep ? 

been found that the description tallied exactly. There 
was no room for doubt. It was evident that the hypno¬ 
tised person had accurately described what was happening 
at the moment in a distant place. 

A friend tells me that, on one occasion during the war, 
she was present at a seance where the medium's husband 
asked them to suggest the place his wife should visit while 
in the hypnotic sleep. My friend's son being then in the 
navy, “ somewhere on the North Sea," she asked that the 
medium should be told to observe what our ships were 
doing. The suggestion was accepted. The medium pre¬ 
sently began to describe a Zeppelin floating on the water, 
and boats putting off from our ships to rescue its crew. 
Next day it was learnt that a Zeppelin had been brought 
down at the mouth of the Thames and its crew rescued in 
the manner described; the time at which this happened 
synchronised with that during which the seance was in 
progress. 

While such instances are impressive, it does not neces¬ 
sarily follow that the information was obtained by the 
soul's excursion. The same result might perhaps be 
achieved by some form of television. We are not confined 
to one alternative. It may even be suggested that a 
spirit communicator, who was aware of the distant hap¬ 
pening, availed himself of the opportunity to impress upon 
the medium's mind a picture of the event. Moreover, it 
is stated that if a susceptible person be hypnotised and 
then told that he is standing by the sea, he will immediately 
act as if actually there and will proceed to give a lifelike 
description of sea-shore sights. We therefore require more 
decisive evidence that the sleeper has acutally travelled. 

3. Instances where the sleeper has been seen at a distance 
from his body . 

This class of evidence exists and is highly important to 
our inquiry. It establishes the fact of actual travel to 
distant places and gives added significance to the fore¬ 
going instances of asserted travel during hypnotism, or 
during sleep. 



Can the Soul leave the Body during Sleep ? 263 

My friend, Mr. W. Appleyard, an ex-Lord Mayor of 
Sheffield, personally told me of the following incident, 
which I now extract from page sixty-four of his book, 
Au Revoir , not Good-bye , published by Hutchinson & Co. 

Speaking of his wife, he writes :— 

“ During her illness I had a most extraordinary 
experience. An American medium came to carry out 
a long-standing engagement, but my wife, not being 
in a condition to entertain her, she went to a member 
of the family about one hundred yards away, where 
one evening we held a seance. My wife was much dis¬ 
appointed at not being able to attend, and was in bed. 

“ During the sitting a brother of hers on the other 
side came, and we asked him what he thought of his 
sister. He replied that he was going across to have a 
look at her. In a little while we were startled by a 
voice we all recognised, calling out, f Walter, Walter' 
(my name), and the laugh we knew so well. We 
were at once filled with apprehension. 

“ * Who are you ? ' I asked, just to assure myself 
that I was not mistaken. ' I am Isie' (my wife's 
name), she called out. . . . The meeting broke up in 
confusion, all of us thinking that my wife had passed 
away. I immediately phoned home and was told that 
she was asleep. 

" In order to obtain an explanation of the incident, 
we held a seance the following evening, when the guide 
of the medium informed us as follows: f Your wife's 
brother came, and, as promised, went to see his sister, 
and, finding her asleep and the power very strong, 
he brought her across to the meeting when she spoke 
to you.’ 

“ After she awoke she made no sign as to her 
knowledge of the experience, nor did I mention the 
matter, fearing to excite her. 

“ This is clear evidence of the possibility of the 
spirit, while in the flesh, being able ±0 travel and 
communicate. It is the only case of the kind I have 
witnessed." 



264 Can the Soul leave the Body during Sleep ? 

The following incident was written out at my request 
by the percipient, a lady bachelor of science and lecturer 
on biology. She is a personal friend whom I consider to 
be a keen observer and highly intelligent. The brother, 
on whom the incident hinges, had been master in a school, 
and subsequently became a Doctor of Medicine. 

“ My brother Cardew, who had been an invalid for 
many years, was ordered by a specialist to go for a 
year's voyage. This was planned out to include 
three months in Australia. It was a great trial 
to us all, as he is the only brother living. However, 
it was arranged that he should go, and that he would 
be away, at the very least, eighteen months. 

" Before he left me he promised me that if he were 
ever in trouble, or if he were dying, he would appear 
to me personally if it was anyhow possible to do so, 
as he and I were always special friends. He sailed 
on Christmas Eve. 

“ After various letters from him, we received one 
in June telling us that he seemed much better, and 
that he had decided to stay for six months, at the least, 
in Australia before continuing his voyage round the 
world. He had arranged his movements exactly, 
and had gone, much to our surprise, to work on a 
fruit farm at the advice of an Australian doctor who 
had examined his throat and lungs. 

“The very next night after receiving this letter, 
I was lying awake as usual (I always lie awake for an 
hour before I can sleep) and was not even thinking of 
Cardew, when suddenly, although it was dark, I saw 
him distinctly, standing at the foot of the bed, in a 
gray tennis flannel suit which I had never seen. He 
smiled, and said in a very cheerful voice, ' Don't be 
frightened, I am all right, but I am coming back; 
there is trouble at home.' Then he smiled, said no 
more, and quite disappeared. 

“ I felt very uncanny, so at once woke my sister 
who was sleeping in the same room, and told her of 
Cardew's appearance. We agreed not to mention the 



Can the Soul leave the Body during Sleep ? 265 

incident to mother or to father, as it might frighten 
them. And we put down the date of Cardew's coming 
in a diary for future reference. We felt rather 
frightened about the matter. 

“ A few days afterwards we decided that mother 
should go to North Cornwall with my sister for a 
holiday, as she seemed to feel my brother's absence so 
keenly. When they had been at Boscastle for over a 
month, a letter came from Cardew telling us that he 
had suddenly altered all his plans, and was coming 
back, and was then on the way home. Two or three 
days afterwards a telegram arrived saying he had 
landed at Liverpool, and the next day he was here 
again. We wired for mother and she came home at 
once. 

“ We wondered what had altered his plans so 
suddenly, but he did not tell us for several days, and 
then he told us that one day, when he was feeling 
very well and strong, and thinking how much he 
liked being in Australia, he suddenly felt he must go 
to the docks for a walk. When he got there he felt 
again that he must inquire about the ships that were 
returning. The f must ' was so strong that although 
he knew it was positively settled that he should stay 
in Australia, yet he was compelled to go and inquire. 
Yet he was not homesick, and had no desire to come 
home just then. On making inquiries he found that a 
boat was leaving the next day for England, and some 
very powerful force made him book his passage on the 
spot, contrary to his wishes, reasons, and common 
sense. A voice seemed, to say ' You must return at 
'once. Book your passage at once.' It was so strong 
that he had to obey it, although he hated doing so. 
And so he returned. 

“ When he told me this, I asked him about the time 
and date of this feeling and decision, and found that 
they coincided exactly with the date in my diary. 
Then I told him about his coming to see me that 
night, and showed him the entry in my diary. As 
there was, however, then no sign of the € trouble at 



266 Can the Soul leave the Body during Sleep ? 

home/ we both felt there was nothing in it—but not 
for long* 

“A few days afterwards my father was in very 
great trouble about some business matters. Through 
a quite unnecessary act of kindness he had become 
responsible for somebody else. He was in great 
trouble about it, and became very ill in the worry of 
it all. At last he told Cardew what it was, and the 
latter by his foresight and alertness was able to see 
exactly what to do, and consulted lawyers, etc. 
Finally, he settled up everything satisfactorily to both 
parties. If he had not been at home we should have 
been involved in a long lawsuit, and lost most of our 
money. I need not explain the circumstances further, 
but we shall always be most thankful that Cardew was 
at home to advise father about the matter. It took 
weeks to settle things, but Cardew was very glad he 
was at home to arrange matters with the lawyers. 

“ He did not wear the gray suit for some weeks, 
then one morning he appeared in it, and I told him it 
was the one. He said that I was right, and that it 
was the one he was wearing when suddenly he booked 
his berth home.” 

This apparition in England of a man then in Australia 
indicates two points bearing on our inquiry, (a) That 
distance does not hinder, and (b) That the traveller may 
retain no recollection of his journey. 

I add a further instance of sleep travel. My informant 
is a clergyman who dreamed of the locality where, at the 
same time, he was observed by two persons. 

While snatching an hour’s sleep during the late 
afternoon of a hot and busy Sunday, he had a vivid 
dream of being in his former parish, a place some score 
of miles distant. That same afternoon, a farmer and 
his wife, living in the latter place and who knew my 
friend well, were out walking, when they both saw 
Trim in an adjoining field. It looked as though they 
must meet after passing the stile in front, and as they 



Can the Soul leave the Body during Sleep ? 267 

climbed over it they looked around expecting to see 
him. Their astonishment was great at not finding 
him. They failed to understand how he could have 
left the field so quickly, and wrote that evening, gently 
upbraiding him for visiting their neighbourhood 
without calling on them. 

The numerous psychic incidents occurring spontaneously 
to this friend prove him to be mediumistic. He records 
the experiences with care, but has not sought to develop 
his gift. 

The incidents I have related are examples of what is 
common knowledge to those versed in psychical research. 
A large collection of cases, similar in character, can be 
found in the literature of the subject, which is available at 
the headquarters of the S.P.R., 31 Tavistock Square, 
London, W.C.i, and at other psychic libraries. 

4. My communicators , whose identity is established , con¬ 
sistently assert that the soul can sometimes visit higher 
realms during bodily sleep . They give reasoned explana¬ 
tions in reply to my questions and objections . 

I have touched upon considerations which, to my own 
mind, open the way for a belief that the soul has power to 
leave the sleeping body. 

We are now to consider the question of the soul’s more 
extended flights. If it can make excursion to distant 
places on earth, can it go yet further and enter realms 
beyond earth ? 

There is a remarkable consensus of testimony on this 
point, psychical communications in general asserting these 
extra-terrene excursions. Personally, I am much impressed 
by what is told me by my own communicators. In 
previous chapters I have stated some of my reasons for 
certainty about their identity. Knowing them as I did 
while they were on earth, I am confident that they would 
not intentionally mislead me. Their remarks on this 
subject are the outcome of observation and experience. 
L.B.D. s 



26 8 Can the Soul leave the Body during Sleep ? 

They say that they have seen my soul issuing forth and 
have accompanied the traveller, leading him to their own 
sphere, and there conversing with him. Other of their 
friends travel in like manner. On arriving, we are some¬ 
what slow in awakening to a realisation of our surroundings, 
and tend to grow dull and heavy as the time for return 
approaches. Meanwhile, we are each connected with our 
sleeping body by a cord of etheric matter drawn from the 
soul's etherial form. 

They point out that this essential body of the soul is 
necessarily less complete during the temporary loss of 
etheric matter forming the connecting cord. Hence, it is 
not so adequate a vehicle for the soul's manifestation, 
and not so alert as it will be when finally separated from 
the physical body at death. This etheric cord is essential 
to physical life; there can be no complete separation of 
soul from body until death. But this cord, or ray, of 
etheric matter is indefinitely elastic and does not impede 
the free movement of the soul. 

The representation therefore amounts to this : the soul 
always animates an etherial body which normally inter¬ 
penetrates the physical form. When the soul travels 
from the latter there is a connecting link. At death 
this link is finally released, and then the etheric 
body in its completeness rises with the soul to its new 
sphere. 

One naturally desires to know why, if vitality flows down 
this cord, from soul to distant sleeping body—why con¬ 
sciousness, sight, emotion, memory do not also reach the 
brain and cause one's dreams to be of Paradise ? Possibly 
it is on those rare occasions when a modicum filters down 
and when the brain is more than usually receptive, that we 
have those outstanding impressions with which wo wake, 
remarking to ourselves, “ That dream seemed more than 
a dream." Such dreams there are, and poor indeed is he 
who knows nothing of them. 

After writing the above lines I put the question to my 
father during that part of a sitting when he had taken 
personal control and we were enjoying intimate conversa¬ 
tion. He said:— 



Can the Soul leave the Body during Sleep ? 26 9 

“Mind and consciousness leave the brain and go 
with the soul. Yet sufficient remain to make the brain 
alive to any accident that might happen. Then, in 
case of a storm, illness, or sudden alarm, the soul's 
return in haste would not cause so much waking 
shock. Yet that which remains in the brain is in¬ 
considerable in amount. If sufficient consciousness 
passed down the cord to keep the brain active, there 
would not be sufficient left to make you conscious 
while with us. In that case there might be a partial 
consciousness, but not enough for complete con¬ 
sciousness in both places. So your question sub¬ 
stantially amounts to this: why can we not be 
conscious in two places at once ? To do so would be 
unusual, and, at best, only a partial and not a vivid 
consciousness." 

From numerous allusions to this subject I select some 
given by my father and some by my sister. Each is dated, 
and it will be noticed how uniformly this teaching has 
extended throughout my sittings with Mrs. Leonard. 
My own remarks and questions are placed within brackets. 

June , 1917. Feda said that my father sees my 
soul leaving the body sometimes during sleep. At 
death it would leave from the head, but in sleep from 
the solar plexus. He watches the soul come out and 
form a sort of clothing for itself. That is because of 
one’s intuitive sense of the need of clothing, the soul 
naturally seeks to clothe its body, i.e., the spiritual or 
psychic body. 

“ Your father and you then go away and engage in 
work. (I ask why I have no recollection of it.) The 
brain was intended only for one set of conditons, 
namely the physical. To be fully cognisant of the 
other as well, would be too much for it to stand." 

April , 1918. Feda remarked that my father had 
recently met in the spirit world some youths in whom 
I was interested, and added:— 



2 70 Can the Soul leave the Body during Sleep ? 

et About one of them he was at first doubtful as 
to whether or not the lad had finally passed over; 
because it is sometimes difficult to distinguish between 
one newly arrived and those who are over temporarily 
during sleep, or while under anaesthetics. He has 
seen these temporary visitors looking so developed 
that they might have been taken for the ordinary 
inhabitants. Of course, they do not all appear so 
similar. The less developed and more material souls 
would be duller and coarser in appearance, even if 
they soared so high, which is improbable. Many 
people could scarcely travel a hundred yards from 
their sleeping body.” 

August , 1919. (I asked whether, when we go to 
them during sleep, we seem to be our real, wakeful 
selves, or as if in dream condition ?) “ You do not 

look quite as alive and alert as if you had left the body 
for good, but more so than when in the physical body 
now. The exception is at the beginning and the end ; 
the beginning is like waking, and the return is like 
going to sleep. Except for just at the start you are 
as bright and alert as at this moment.” 

November , 1920. My sister Etta, after alluding to 
what her mother had seen in the Beyond when visiting 
there in sleep, said: “ Mother has seen it at night, but 
that is not the same thing as living there. When the 
soul comes to us at night it is limited by the connecting 
cord, it looks much the same, but does not feel the 
same as a freed soul/ (‘ Not so much awake ?') 
* You are not, although you may appear to be so/ 
(' When I join you at night do I speak about my earth 
life and remember it ?') ‘ Yes, you do ; but you do 
not remember your earth life so well as you remember 
that you were with us the previous night. You can 
remember if you came over the night before or not/ 
(‘ My two memories then are continuous, but do not 
intermingle ? ’) ‘ Quite so. If I suddenly ask you 
a question about your day's doings, there is a certain 



Can the Soul leave the Body during Sleep ? 271 

effort to remember, because you are leading a dual 
existence. We do not lead a dual life; we are com¬ 
plete in one body now." 

“ ( f How do we reach you when we come at night ? ') 

* I can only describe it as your soul first drawing itself 
away from your aura directly the body sleeps. In 
most cases there is some spirit helping, guiding you 
on the journey from earth, although this is not always 
necessary. In your case, father often comes for you/ 

We do not float up automatically, then ? ’) ‘ Yes, 

and father holds your hand/ (‘ What would happen 
if one had no guide to hold one's hand ? ') ‘ Such 

would probably not go from earth, for the reason that 
there was no one to want them. Some are so developed 
that they can travel without guides; others so unde¬ 
veloped they cannot go at all. Spiritual as well as 
psychic development is requisite; hence, some only 
travel on earth. Father, who has listened to what 
has been said, remarks that he does not always take 
your hand; you can go side by side with him. You've 
learnt to control your thought in the psychic body, 
and your thought is always upon going with him to 
the third sphere, and so you'd get there even if not 
guided by him. He says that he often goes to places 
to which he could not find his way by going mile 
after mile, but he is able to draw himself to a place 
by thought of it." 

March , 1924. “ (‘ Is my life over there consecutive ? ') 

* Yes, you begin where you left it off last time, pick 
it up again and go ahead more rapidly than on earth.' 
{ f Does one grow educated by those visits, or are the 
experiences scrappy ?') ‘It is educative experience 
which has influence on you for earth life. But you 
could not come over unless you had prepared for it 
and taken advantage of teaching; unless you had 
prepared yourself mentally for it by the things you 
do in earth life. The stretching capacity of the 
communicating cord is dependent on progression in 
ordinary life/ (‘ Yes, but is it progress in character, 



Can the Soul leave the Body during Sleep ? 

or in intelligence ? ’) ‘I think the character progress 
is more important than the mental, the thinking of 
and trying for good things, living up to a high ideal 
or by striving to do so. Striving counts for so much, 
even when you cannot keep up to the ideal. It is not 
so much the race which makes the athlete strong, as 
the training for it/ ” 

August , 1924. " ( f Is waking after death anything 
different from finding oneself there during night 
travel ? ') f It is different. A visit is not such a 
'complete waking; for you are still bound to the 
physical body and limited in condition by that union. 
Something is going from you to the physical body, 
keeping it alive. So you are not nearly so much awake 
on visits as when finally passing over. Yet, the process 
is much the same. The preceding sleep may be a 
quarter of an hour, but after death three or four days 
may be required to lose the sense of physical illness, 
etc., which should be left behind/ ” 

May, 1926. " Does the spiritual or etheric body ever 
sleep ?') * No, it is never unconscious. It has a 

separate consciousness when freed from the earthly 
body, and shares the consciousness of the latter while 
within it. It is possible, while absent during sleep, 
for just sufficient consciousness to be left in the 
physical body for the brain to register certain im¬ 
pressions without drawing the etherial body back. Say 
a noise disturbs you, or you feel cold, etc. For while 
the etherial body is connected with the earthly body 
by the etheric cord a certain stream of consciousness 
passes down from the one to the other. It is only 
when death breaks the cord that this ceases/ 

“ C It seems remarkable that the current of con¬ 
sciousness passing down the cord does not inform the 
brain of what happens to the soul during night travel/) 
* There is a stronger stream with some than with others. 
It may be an inherited or an induced difference. 
I should imagine that most mediums remember 



Can the Soul leave the Body during Sleep ? 273 

not only their dreams but also occasionally their 
travels/ (Here I ask Feda whether her medium 
remembers.) ‘ Not often/ she replied ; with her the 
two are mixed together. She gets clear dreams; 
but what she thinks are dreams have bits poked in 
them of what she did while out of the body. Both 
get mixed. Etta says, ‘ It is as if you took a scene 
which I once painted long ago, and should add two 
figures in the forground. Anyone looking at it might 
not know that those two figures did not belong to 
the scene; for they would assume that the figures 
were an integral part of it/ ” 

September , 1926. “ ( # Is the life-line of etheric 

matter, which unites the visitor to your realms with 
his sleeping body, visible to you there ?') # Only to 

a very short extent, just a short length of it, and only 
in some circumstances. With most people it is not 
visible at all. With the more developed it is less 
visible. Mistakes happen again and again as to 
whether the visitor is permanently there or not/ 

“ (‘ When one wakes there after death does he feel 
just as he did when visiting there in sleep ?'). 

" * It is different in degree. After death he realises 
himself more intensely, and is more * all there/ ” 

The above are selected from among thirty-five allusions 
to this subject. There have been some repetitions of the 
same statements, frequent allusions to my having been 
with my communicators in their realms during my sleep, 
and, occasionally, references to items in my dreams which 
they claim were fragmentary recollections of what had 
happened during night visits to them. 


5. Absence of recollection does not disprove the reality of 
these excursions. 

If we travel from the body why do we not remember the 
journey ? Absence of recollection seems, to some minds. 



2 74 Can the Soul leave the Body during Sleep ? 

a conclusive argument against such asserted journeying. 
Common sense says, “ If I really went away and lived an 
active life elsewhere, I must certainly have retained some 
degree of recollection/' 

But will this objection survive examination ? Whatever 
happened to the soul, it is certain that the physical brain 
remained within the sleeping body; possibly it dreamed, 
but it did not travel. Can one logically expect to find in 
a brain, which was not present to record them, any re¬ 
miniscences of the soul's journey ? 

A husband and wife share in common much of the home 
life, and the wife recalls many things which her husband 
said and did. But when he leaves for business, she does 
not go with him; and after their temporary separation he 
will have recollections of the day's doings about which she 
knows nothing. Now, it is the soul which is said to travel; 
the brain admittedly remains on earth. Hence, it is the 
soul which would know about its journey, and not neces¬ 
sarily the brain-consciousness. 

Yet, the brain is wonderfully adaptable, and when a soul 
develops higher powers fresh possibilities come within the 
range of mental activity. Is this what has happened on 
those occasions when we wake to find stray hints floating 
in memory of things scarcely expressible in words ? What 
mean those faint recollections of rapturous moments, of 
brighter surroundings, of high companionships ? Why do 
we sometimes wake with the strong sense of a hidden joy, 
even when the dream which seemed to accompany it 
eludes our recollection ? And what is the significance of 
those partially recollected dreams which seem to be not 
merely dreams, but to have glimpsed, prior to their waking 
confusions and stupidities, a something more than our 
earthly life ? 

We have immense power of forgetting. How little we 
remember, unless having recourse to a diary, those thou¬ 
sands of impressions registered on our consciousness this 
day twelvemonth past. Yet, those impressions reached the 
brain through our senses. More easily and completely do 
we forget impressions which reach the brain by other than 
sense channels, such as dreams. Some men aver that 



Can the Soul leave the Body during Sleep ? 2*7$ 

they never dream; possibly it is that they never recall 
their dreams. Most of us are vaguely aware of dreaming, 
yet find it difficult to recall one dream in ten. If attention 
be directed to one's dreams immediately on waking, it is 
often easy to trace a few of them; but if, instead of doing 
this at once, we let some hours elapse, where are our dream 
memories ? The interests of the day have obliterated the 
visions of the night. Since, then, it is less easy to recall 
impressions reaching the brain by other than sense channels, 
than to remember what we have seen and heard, it may well 
be that we have simply failed to consciously remember what 
the returning soul impressed on the slumbering brain. 
Again, since the brain did not leave the body during sleep, 
and did not therefore share the experience of the soul's 
journey, it can only learn of these if informed of them. 
Until the brain has received impressions from the soul it 
has nothing to recall. Now, it is exactly this passage of 
information from one state of consciousness to another 
which is beset with so much difficulty. 

How obstinately a name can refuse to pass from the 
subconscious into our conscious memory. We are certain 
that we know the name and that we ought to be able to 
produce it, yet it does not come into consciousness. If 
sometimes we cannot recall a name which was once in the 
forefront of our mind, we may anticipate an even greater 
difficulty in remembering those of the soul's experiences 
which were never within our normal consciousness. The 
soul may have really travelled, but has it been able to 
impress the awakening brain with its memories of what took 
place ? If not, then the brain has nothing to recall. If, 
on the other hand, the soul did in some degree succeed, 
there may be a difficulty in bringing that impression into 
normal consciousness, since it was not received through the 
usual channels of sense. For the brain memory is accus¬ 
tomed to reproduce that which comes to it through the 
senses, and it cannot so easily recall experiences purely 
psychical or interior. 

The soul shares the memory which connects with the 
brain ; but it also has a memory of its own which the brain 
does not, normally share. How true it is that, “ The heart 



276 Can the Soul leave the Body during Sleep ? 

has its reasons which the reason does not know.” We have 
intuitions and assurances for which our logical processes 
find no foundation. Yet, we know that these intuitions 
are, in certain departments of life, by far the safer guides. 

Researches in hypnotism reveal the impressive fact that, 
after being awakened, the hypnotised person may be entirely 
unconscious of all he said and did while asleep. This is 
even more startling than the obliviousness of a sleep 
traveller. For the hypnotised person has himself been 
speaking, his brain was intelligently active; but the brain 
of the sleep traveller was not present in the distant places 
where the soul is said to have enjoyed a temporary activity. 
If we find tr tal oblivion in the former case, total oblivion 
in the latter should not surprise us. 

A further fact of importance to our inquiry is reported 
by hypnotists. Despite the usual oblivion of the awakened 
person, to which we have just alluded, it is possible to 
make them remember. If the hypnotist, before waking 
the patient, commands him to remember what has been 
done and said, then the patient on waking is able to give 
an exact account of all that happened. This indicates that 
there exists in mental mechanism a means of transmitting 
to the brain, and of enabling the brain to express con¬ 
sciously, the memories possessed by the soul. 

How, then, might we hope to bring the soul's experience 
into consciousness ? It must be a difficult achievement, 
and not a thing we should expect to happen without 
persistent and well-directed training. It would be inter¬ 
esting to learn how far a course of hypnotic treatment, 
directed especially to this end, would enable one to bring 
into consciousness the soul's experiences during natural 
sleep. With suitable subjects, experienced hypnotisers, 
and prolonged investigation, the experiment might yield 
illuminating result. 

There is yet a further illustration of our difficulty in 
remembering what has happened during sleep. It is 
found in observation of trance states. Quite often a deep- 
trance medium will awake and know nothing of the 
subjects about which he has been speaking vivaciously 
during the preceding hour. Where the trance has been 



Can the Soul leave the Body during Sleep ? 277 

less complete, the medium may retain a confused recol¬ 
lection. And in the case of one whose trance condition is 
but slight, there is often a clear remembrance of having 
heard a voice which seemed to be talking at a distance; 
it was his own voice heard during a partial or divided 
consciousness. 

In our present limited understanding of memory, and 
of the soul, lies the cause of our incredulity when we hear of 
the soul’s excursions in sleep. In daily life impressions 
reach the soul through the brain which receives them from 
the sense channels. The movement is from brain inwards 
to soul, and that is easy, natural, habitual. The reverse 
is difficult, and to most men it is unpractised. Some 
favourably constituted persons might perhaps acquire the 
art with less difficulty than others. There undoubtedly 
exists a pathway by which impressions can pass from 
within, from soul to brain, a path which can be cleared by 
use, or closed by disuse. The mystics know this path, the 
intuitions, conscience, and inspiration use it. The artist 
and the poet owe much to the traffic which passes that way; 
it is by this route that the deeper things of the inner life 
rise into the consciousness of spiritual men. Might we 
not therefore hope to find, reaching our awareness by this 
path, some of those pictures, moods and records which we 
had never seen or known in any outward fashion, but which 
were the experience of the soul alone when far away from 
the brain and from the physical senses of its sleeping body ? 
It is of this experience that certain people tell. 


6. Partial recollection is asserted by some , while with others 
it appears to emerge in dreams . 

I mention this fact for the sake of completeness, although 
aware how little it must mean to those who have no such 
experience. For how can the listener say whether the 
narration was a dream or something more ? And being 
unable to decide this, he quite properly assumes the 
likelier of the alternatives. Dreams he knows of, but 
conscious glimpses of another world are unfamiliar to him, 



278 Can the Soul leave the Body during Sleep ? 

and he therefore concludes that it was a dream and nothing 
more. Very different is the attitude of those who are able 
to recall something of their experiences. Their conviction 
is unshakable. 

I have from time to time noticed that what seemed an 
unrelated fragment of something different broke in upon 
the background of an ordinary dream and produced an 
impressive sense of reality. It was as though, while one 
gazed upon a picture, the canvas suddenly opened, giving 
a glimpse of real scenery and living people behind it. 
The persons seen are often, though not always, one's 
deceased friends. All too soon the scene and figures fade 
and the casual dream runs on again. But, in recollection 
those momentary glimpses rank with realities. 

My soul flies singing through the skies 
Blither than any bird or mortal thing. 

And hears supernal melodies 

Which man has never heard, but angels sing. 

Yet all the while, engrossed in care, 

Hearing and seeing naught, my trance I keep : 

And when my soul returns to me 
She cannot tell, alas, her secret deep. 

The day will dawn when I shall learn 

That close-held mystery by men called “ death," 

Which shall reveal my soul to me. 

And rouse me from my trance of earthly breath. 

Then shall I join her in her flight, 

And, rapt in ecstasy, shall pass away 
From this half-shadow men call " life," 

Wherein both eyes and ears are stopped with clay. 



CHAPTER XXXI 


A SIGNIFICANT MISTAKE 

The incident recorded in this chapter seems to prove, so 
far as an isolated case may prove a general truth, that the 
soul can leave the body before death; and further, that 
it may even be mistaken by those in the next life for one 
who, like themselves, has parted from the earthly body for 
ever. 

(This incident is more fully discussed by Mr. A. W. 

Trethewy, in the Journal of the Society for Psychical 

Research, October 1926.) 

The story is as follows :— 

On January 6th, 1922, Feda transmitted a long message 
from my father and sister. It commenced thus :— 

“ Something about one who passed quite lately; it 
is one whom they have been helping, and who went 
rather quickly. Your father is very serious about 
this, as if he wishes to be careful.” 

Then followed clues as to the identity of the deceased, 
and some newspaper tests which were said to relate to 
him. An exact copy of the latter was forwarded the same 
evening to the Society for Psychical Research where it is 
now available for inspection. The clues and tests are 
stated in full hereunder. They include the following 
remarks:— 

“ ‘B ' is given ; Feda feels sure it is to be linked with 
the one passed over.” 

" He passed quite, quite lately.” 

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280 A Significant Mistake 

Nothing of this was intelligible to me at the time. I 
anticipated that, as usual, the meaning would be clear on 
the morrow when I had opportunity for searching the 
newspaper. But on this occasion the inspection did not 
assist me. 

Six days later I saw among the death notices of The 
Methodist Recorder :— 

Beard —January 7th at Southborough, near Tun¬ 
bridge Wells, Rev. Samuel Wesley Beard ; 
aged 80 years. 

Remembering that Mr. Beard had been known to my 
parents, and seeing the initial “ B ” had been given, I 
decided to ask at my next sitting whether Mr. Beard was 
the person to whom the messages applied. The reply was 
" Yes ” 

I next compared the messages with such information as 
was obtainable about Mr. Beard. The agreement was 
sufficient to warrant further inquiry. Yet, I hesitated to 
approach Mr. Beard’s family, as I was unknown to them, 
and almost a month elapsed before I decided to introduce 
myself. But when I did this, and learnt the story of 
Mr. Beard’s last illness, it became evident that my father’s 
knowledge had been strikingly accurate. This encouraged 
me to inquire further. Miss Beard kindly permitted me to 
send her a number of questions to which she replied, and 
this helped me greatly. 

I will now give the messages as received through Feda 
and append to each its verification. 

“ Something about one who passed quite lately; it is 
one whom they have been helping and who went rather 
quickly. Your father is very serious about this, as if 
he wishes to be careful. Why does he give ' M ? ’ He 
keeps giving f M,’ and yet Feda does not feel as if it is the 
person’s name, though it would connect very closely.” 

Miss Beard's name is Mary. She had been her father’s 
one companion during his last five years of life. 



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A Significant Mistake 

“ They speak of being surprised at the passing, as 
if it took them by surprise. It is one whom they 
thought could still do something on earth. It looked 
like being premature, but Etta shakes her head and 

says, ‘ It is all right/ Fr -, Fra -, Feda cannot 

get the name, but it is mixed up in a newspaper test 
purposely in case he failed to give it clearly this way.” 

They were correct in thinking Mr. Beard might have done 
further work. He had been preaching during the previous 
quarter and had promised to do so again in three months' 
time, but had asked to be given no appointments for a while 
as he was unwell. 

“ Fr-, Fra-” ; this appears to be an attempt for 

the name French which was found in the next day's 
Morning Post (see below). 

Here Feda transmitted the newspaper tests, the time 
being 245 p.m. 

“ In The Times to-morrow, page one, column two, 
upper half but not quite top, say one quarter down, 
name of the person passed recently, not sure if 
Christian name or not.” 

Two inches from the top of this second column on the 
first page of the Times appears the name Samuel This is 
Mr. Beard's Christian name. 

“ Close to it is another name, not his own, but of 
place this person was very much connected with.” 

In the same advertisement with Samuel and on the line 
immediately above it is Weston-super-Mare . In this town 
Mr. Beard worked for three years. Also, a few lines 
higher, appears Somerset, in which county he lived for 
six years and was colleague successively with my father and 
my uncle. 

“ This person will be missed. Sudden passing, but 
unsatisfactory health previously; some additional 
physical trouble led to die climax, then quickly over.” 



282 A Significant Mistake 

Mr. Beard was certainly missed by the Wesleyan Churches 
in and around Tunbridge Wells where he had for some 
twenty years rendered much assistance. The references 
to health are correct. His illness lasted two weeks, and 
during his last two days the condition of the throat became 
both painful and serious; so much so that he was given 
injections of morphia. It is perfectly correct to say that 
the end was quick. 

“ An appointment made with the person, 
important, affecting others, could not be carried 
out owing to the passing.” 

An operation had been fixed to take place on January 5th, 
in a London nursing home ; but as the day approached he 
was too ill to be removed, and was in fact dying. 

“ Column one, nearly half-way down, find name of a 
near relative, living, of the above. * J ' is given as a 
name connected with the one passed and is to be 
found close to that of the near relative.” 

Within one inch of half-way down column one, is Mary, 
the name of his daughter. An initial “ J ” is in the same 
advertisement with Mary. Mr. Beard had two brothers, 
both of whose names commenced with “ J.” 

“ * B 1 is given; Feda feels sure it is to be linked 
with the one passed over.” 

This was so, the name being Beard. 

“ A reference to the place he was shortly going to is 
made near the bottom of column one.” 

The operation was to have taken place in London. 
While there are several town addresses within four inches 
of the bottom of this column, the word London only appears 
once, and its position agrees with directions given. 



A Significant Mistake 283 

“ In the Morning Post to-morrow. He thinks this 
was from the back page, left side and one quarter down 
a name referring to the same man lately passed, as 
given in the Times test. Got idea re ships close 
thereto/' 

Exactly one quarter down the first left-hand column of 
the last page of the Morning Post is the word French . The 
test message is not quite explicit as to which person the 
name would fit, but there had been a preliminary attempt 

to give a name “ Fr-", and, when the attempt failed, it 

was stated that the name would be introduced amid the 
paper tests for the day. I therefore conclude that this 
was an attempt to indicate an old Taunton friend, Mr. 
French. 

I had frequently heard my parents speak of the family 
named French at Taunton, and of Mr. French's friendship 
with our ministers. But it was a surprise to discover that 
Mr. Beard had been my father's colleague at Taunton a 
year before my birth there. 

“ Ships." The line immediately following that con¬ 
taining the above-named French, ends with the word 
Port y which perhaps, by mental association, suggested 
ships. 


“ Page five; find name of a place, half-way down 
left side, also mentioned in Times test." 

This is unsatisfactory, inasmuch as no name appears there 
which had been previously alluded to. It may be a failure, 
but it is curious that three inches below the half-way crease 
of the first column at the left side of page five there should 
be found the word, Avalon. Avalon is the old but still 
used name for Glastonbury, a place at which Mr. Beard 
would have frequently conducted services while he was my 
uncle's colleague in Somerset. 

This completes the examination of the tests which were 
given for verification from the morrow's Press and of 
which a copy was posted to the S.P.R. immediately after 
the sitting. The extent to which they agree with facts 

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284 A Significant Mistake 

unknown to me at the time, shows that my communicators 
had access to information relating, not only to the news¬ 
paper offices, but also to Mr. Beard’s family and personal 
condition. 

Having completed the newspaper tests, Feda con¬ 
tinued :— 

"The one passed over belonged to different con¬ 
ditions, things which interested other people . . . not 
like those who only interest themselves in their homes. 
He was interested in so many things.” 

This would apply to any Wesleyan minister, but especi¬ 
ally to one like Mr. Beard, who had travelled in many 
circuits and who, therefore, had numbers of old friends in 
different parts of the land. 

“ Your father shows a lot of papers, as if something 
was left incomplete, but he adds, f Left in good hands. 
It will be seen to/ He thinks you’ll hear something 
about those papers. There will be something about 
this which will be posthumous. Your father seems to 
think you will know about it too. It is in another’s 
hands now, but quite good hands. This is quite 
important.” 

Although this might refer to private papers, I think it 
hints at an obituary notice, and if so, it was introduced to 
give me a further clue to the fact that a Wesleyan minister 
was being spoken of. Mr. Beard’s obituary was published 
the following September, and may be read on page 113 
of the Wesleyan Minutes of Conference for 1922. 

" Talking of going away a little while ago, change, 
another-place—the one who has passed over. Feda 
keeps getting the idea of going to another place,” 

Miss Beard remarks, respecting this, that there had been 
occasional conversation about going to Folkestone for their 
next holiday. 



A Significant Mistake 2 85 

It will be admitted that the communications given about 
Mr. Beard, through Feda, proved to be remarkably well 
informed. Yet, the story has followed usual lines up to 
this point; for my friends in the next life have repeatedly 
welcomed new arrivals and have elicited facts from them 
which were subsequently mentioned in my sittings for 
evidential purposes. 

But I realised that this case was unique when I learnt 
from Miss Beard the hour of her father's passing. The 
Rev . Samuel W. Beard died at 1.30 a.m. on January 7 th, 
1922, i.e., several hours after the close of the sitting in which 
he was described as having " passed quite lately ” 

In reply to my inquiry as to her father's condition during 
the day preceding his death, Miss Beard informed me that 
he passed those hours in unconsciousness. 

Some weeks later I had a conversation with my father 
at a sitting in which I remarked on the fact that he had 
been mistaken in supposing that Mr. Beard had passed 
over at the time when messages concerning him were 
given. He replied that his first idea that Mr. Beard might 
not finally have passed came to him while he was in the 
act of transmitting the message through Feda. He con¬ 
tinued : " I have often met people both on my own plane 
and on yours, spirits whom at first I took to be permanently 
separated from their bodies." 

In view of this illuminating mistake, the following 
quotation receives peculiar significance. The date shows 
it was given two years before the Beard incident. Indeed, 
I had forgotten its existence. 

Sitting of May 21 st, 1920. 

After allusion had been made to persons visiting spirit 
realms during the condition of sleep, I inquired whether 
these seemed as fully alert as those living there permanently. 
My father, who was controlling, replied:— 

"There is a difference perceptible to those who 
know them well. The cord of etheric matter which 
still connects them with their sleeping body is drawn 
from their psychic body; it therefore follows that a 



286 A Significant Mistake 

sleep-visitor is limited by the loss of this cord substance 
which is connecting him with the body. Supposing I 
saw someone who was only temporarily out of the 
body, I might not know whether his modified brightness 
was, or was not, his usual appearance. For among 
ourselves there are degrees of brightness, since some 
vibrate more keenly with life." 

I then asked whether he would be certain to distinguish, 
in the case of his own relations, whether or not they had 
come over finally. He said:— 

“ If long enough with them I should know, but I 
might not know if I only saw them in passing. There 
have been cases where relatives were spoken to by 
those who were unaware that they had come over 
finally." 

In the preceding chapter, we discussed the ability of the 
soul to leave its physical body before death. Conclusive 
proof is difficult to obtain. But in the incident now related 
we have, at least, a contribution towards such proof. 

I have been led by various considerations to the belief 
that such partial freedom of the soul is, with people who 
have attained a certain measure of spiritual development, 
one of the unrecognised facts of human nature. The soul 
is not so closely tied to its earthly body as we have sup¬ 
posed. It occasionally travels from that body, although, 
on returning, it is unable to impress the normal conscious¬ 
ness with the record of this experience. 



CHAPTER XXXII 


THE MYSTERY OF OUTER SPACE 

C.D.T.; Do you know more, than when on earth, about 
the mystery of space without boundaries, the limitless 
universe beyond the stars ? 

Father: We do not know all space, nor all that is in space, 
but we are aware of more than is known on earth. 
Beyond the stars known to you there are others; 
the stars you know are but a small number compared 
with those which exist. But beyond them all there 
is something which I have difficulty in describing—- 
put it thus—a world which is not a world in any 
material sense, yet in a spiritual sense; not a formless 
or indefinite world, but an infinite condition ... I 
have not been to it. I only know of it through hearing 
it spoken of by those who are on the highest sphere in 
our spirit world, and therefore in closer touch with the 
outer world. They have ways of knowing; you your¬ 
self have ways of knowing what is beyond your world, 
means of knowledge which are quite inaccessible to 
many denizens of your earth, the ants for example. 
The ant lives on your sphere and belongs to the same 
physical conditions as you. Yet, you are living on a 
higher plane of thought, and have means of informa¬ 
tion impossible to the ant. The telescope shows you 
that there are other planets, worlds of some kind. 
But the ant cannot know this, although the planets 
exist as truly in relation to the ant as to you. Now, 
by analogy, you might term me an ant in spirit life; 
for in my world there are developed beings who know 
as much more than I as you know more than the ant. 
In time I shall grow to their state of knowledge, but 
it must be a gradual evolution. 

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288 


The Mystery of Outer Space 

So you see we know more about space than you, 
and yet we cannot go into it, cannot obtain first-hand 
knowledge of it any more than the ant is able to read 
your book which it crawls across. 

You ask about the infinity of space. I know how 
stupendous the words sound. Now, think of the trunk 
of a tree, and then of the leaves which rustle on its 
branches. Those leaves are allied to each other, and 
it is a long way back to the main trunk and to the 
roots which occupy so much space and are much more 
in bulk than all the leaves combined. Space is not 
space in any sense of emptiness; it is full of the 
machinery which keeps going all the little universes 
and separate worlds. It is helpful to look on all the 
different worlds as leaves, because they are fed from a 
trunk which is space. The power which keeps your 
world alive originates in that limitless space. 

It is a mistake to think of space as a great emptiness. 
If you could pass further and further away from your 
own sphere into that which seems to you as merely 
space, and if your consciousness could grasp the 
realities, I am sure that you would become aware of 
greater and greater powers, greater and greater fields 
of activity. It is not an emptiness, not merely a 
space, but power of which you are not conscious and 
which I simply know about, yet which keeps both you 
and me alive. You will, of course, say that this is 
God. True, God is the mainspring of the entire 
universe, space, planets, everything. But He has 
wonderful fields of work, very wonderful planes of 
consciousness of some great and infinite kind which 
neither you nor I can comprehend. And space, as we 
term it, is full of these. Could you but journey away 
further and further from earth and from the region 
of the stars, your consciousness growing as you passed 
forth beyond them all, you would then be able to see 
and to hear more and more. There would be no still¬ 
ness, no such inactivity as is suggested to your mind 
by the thought of space. 

I think your idea of space is based upon the gaps 



The Mystery of Outer Space 289 

existing on earth between one and another of man’s 
activities, say the barren fields between town and 
town, the deserts, and so on. But there are no such 
gaps between God’s manifestations of activity; for 
they are infinite. So do not try to grasp the idea of 
space. Think of it simply as the place in which God 
works. What He is doing there you cannot see, but 
you are feeling the result of it each minute. 



CHAPTER XXXIII 


A SURVEY OF RESULTS 

Omitting reference to the chapters dealing with laws 
underlying trance communication, this book touches on 
two great subjects— la) the evidence for our friends’ survival 
and (b) their teaching about life beyond death. 

For this evidence and teaching there is desperate need in 
many quarters. Let him who questions it give thanks for 
his sheltered life, but let him be assured that the tragedy 
of doubt is very real, and that many, both within the 
Churches and outside them, are suffering mentally and 
morally through the absence of any wholesome certainty. 
He would do well to regard the condition of the world, and 
ask himself whether the major part of mankind is living, 
and the majority of nations acting, as they might be 
expected to act if they were realising the meaning of this 
life and the realities of the life to come ? Multitudes are 
praying for peace, but is there any reasonable hope of 
settled peace until justice, truthfulness, honesty between 
man and man and also between nations, together with a 
practical interest in the welfare of others, become the 
accepted standards of conduct ? 

A false sense of values and low standards of conduct are 
being tacitly accepted by old and young. Discerning eyes 
see that all is not well with us, either in Church or State. 
What is amiss ? The ancient prophet wrote: " My people 
are destroyed for lack of knowledge/’ And this is true 
to-day. There is lacking, not only a clear demonstration 
of the meaning of life, but also any widespread knowledge 
about the nature of that future existence for which this 
one is a preparation. The Churches will be more helpful 
when they are able to offer present-day evidence for the 
reality of life beyond bodily death. By showing what that 

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A Survey of Results 291 

life is like, they will enable men to realise why it is so vitally 
important that it should be prepared for here and now. 

We are privileged to live in days when fresh knowledge 
is pouring in from many quarters. And in communication 
with those who have preceded us to the next life we have 
a means of extending our knowledge about the nature and 
activities of that life. It was supposed by some, not so 
long since, that man could learn nothing more about the 
starry heavens; but when the spectroscope and astro¬ 
nomical photography were brought into action they ex¬ 
panded our knowledge of the material universe. We are 
approaching an era in which man will augment his present 
slender information about the unseen universe by using 
those means of acquiring knowledge afforded him by the 
development of his inner faculties. The trend of this book 
only slightly indicates the wealth of this source. 

Perhaps it will be asked what benefit may be expected 
from a general acceptance of this evidence for survival ? 
I think it will do for others what it has done for mb. It 
has supplemented and reinforced my faith, both in times 
of bereavement and in the prospect of old age and death. 
Also, it has further emphasised the value of personal 
religion. 

Are not these real helps amid life's difficulties ? During 
the first shock of sudden loss a man may find himself adrift 
upon a sea of doubt. This has been confessed by many 
who were amazed and humiliated at the unexpected failure 
of their traditional ideas in the hour of need. They have 
told how they realised then that there ought to be some¬ 
thing more than they possessed. Truly, there is something 
more. It is something that has been designed by God; it 
was afforded by Jesus to his friends long ago, and it is 
within our reach to-day. Even without personal converse 
with the departed, one can be assured from the 
experience of others that this is possible; that death has 
removed only the bodily presence from our sight, and 
that the friend we miss keeps in closer touch with us than 
in days when he walked at our side. I need not expand 
this thought; it is my hope that it has been sufficiently 
illustrated in previous chapters. 



2$ 2 A Survey of Results 

Occasionally it happens that an unexpected and unin¬ 
vited appearance of the departed brings consolation and 
support. There are several collected records of such 
spontaneous communications; for these happenings are 
not so rare as the usual silence of those who experience 
them might lead one to suppose. And each of these 
unsought communications from the life beyond gives 
impressive denial to the thought that God does not intend 
us to hear from those who pass onward. I see in them one 
of God's ways of showing us the possibility of such com¬ 
munication, and His intention of prompting us to discover 
the laws by which it takes place. Of these laws medium- 
ship is' found to be an essential principle. Descriptions of 
life on death's further side show by contrast how im¬ 
poverished is the mind which chooses to dwell too much 
upon those limitations and privations which accompany 
old age ; upon sickness, loss of place and pleasure, or upon 
the gloom which a past generation expressed by its funeral 
trappings. 

Our Mends say that, upon passing over, they found that 
the character which has been matured by sincere endeavour 
to follow the highest has qualified for immediate happiness 
and wider service in the new life. They say also, that those 
who had lived chiefly for self, experience the disadvantages 
and remorse inevitable to unprogressed souls. This 
touches on personal religion. 

My father and sister strongly assert that intercourse 
with them should not be regarded as an end in itself, but 
as an aid and encouragement to communion with Christ. 
In my personal experience I find the proved awareness and 
nearness of my risen Mends gives a sense of reality to 
prayer, and strengthens one's realisation of the divine care 
and sympathy. It was not for my own needs that I 
entered upon a personal investigation of this subject, but 
from a sense of its value in equipping me for service to 
others. Yet I, too, have received unexpected personal 
benefit; for it has changed belief into knowledge, and 
knowledge into realisation. Indeed, it has been the 
greatest development in my inner life since when, as a 
youth, I turned from thoughtless selfishness to follow Christ. 



A Survey of Results 293 

Is it not good to have certainty in place of doubt ? 
To find belief changed into realisation ? To have proof 
of the frequent nearness of those who died ? To learn 
something of the nature and occupations of the first stages 
of life beyond death ? And to be reminded afresh that the 
love which is prepared to sacrifice in the service of others, 
and which finds its historic symbol in the Cross, is life’s 
supreme attainment ? 



CHAPTER XXXIV 


ARMISTICE DAY, I927 

On the recent dedication of the Menin Gate Memorial 
someone wrote thus:— 

O God ! those cemeteries around Ypres. Age nine¬ 
teen, age twenty-one, age twenty-three. Then a name 
you knew, rows of neat, white stones in green grass, 
standing on parade still in white battalions. Such 
jolly fellows. And you stand helplessly among them 
—thinking. 

Some suppose their dead to be extinct; gone out of 
being like some glad song which died away in silence, only 
surviving as a memory. Others hope that they may meet 
again with those they lost. Many add faith to that hope, 
looking with confidence for reunion on the morrow of 
death. And yet, even these are often unaware of the whole 
glad truth. For when we speak to them of return from 
death’s further side, of speech, of evidential messages, we 
see repeated that ancient story of the incredulous disciples, 
to whom the women came telling a similar experience. 
And their words seemed unto them as idle tales , and they 
believed them not . 

Disbelief in human survival is sadly wrong. Hope and 
trust are right, but they do not go far enough; they stop 
short of knowledge. Knowledge, and the gladness it 
brings, were the notes on which that first Easter Sunday 
closed— Then were the disciples glad when they saw the Lord . 

It is this knowledge which we proclaim. We say, 
your departed certainly return, they often stand at your 
side as in former days, though not being clairvoyant you 
fail to see them. They speak to you, but not being clair- 
audient you do not hear them. They try to impress you 
with an awareness of their presence, though you deem that 

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sudden thought of them just a fancy of your own and 
nothing more. 

We teach further, that though one may be blind, and 
deaf, and dull of inner sensibility, there are others psychic¬ 
ally gifted, through whose kind offices our loved ones can 
speak to us. 

Even a few words from one who passed to the other 
side of death, words conveying assurance of his identity, 
can change the whole outlook of life, turning it from the 
chill gloom of disbelief or sad questioning, to the light and 
warmth of certitude. 

The angels keep their ancient places; 

Turn but a stone and start a wing ! 

Tis ye, 'tis your estranged faces 

That miss the many-splendoured thing. 

To-day we call to memory those who have risen to the 
life beyond, and especially those who sacrificed themselves 
for others at duty's call. Many will picture their son as 
he went to rejoin his regiment, or returned to his ship, or 
they recall those all too fleeting hours of his last furlough. 
To remember them so, as they used to be while here, is 
good; but to have a realisation of what they have attained 
and where they are—this is better far. For the world 
invisible then takes a homelier form. It is no strange land. 
So many of those who made home homely are there ; they 
have not forgotten, they have not ceased to love, and 
when our own turn comes they will be waiting to welcome 
us. It was such a confidence as this which Jesus gave 
His friends; I go, said He, to prepare a place for you. 
And, I will not leave you comfortless . 

It is said that sorrow brings us nearer God. It is not 
always so; it depends on how we take it. But joy, too, 
can raise us heavenward, and it marks a wonderful hour 
in life when a great sorrow is transfigured by joy. Jesus 
would have it so: I will see you again, He said to His 
friends, and your heart shall rejoice . 

Here is an example of this transfigured sorrow. Quite 
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road accident. I saw his mother's letter, her breaking 
heart asked the old question: “ Is there no way by which 
he can tell us how it fares with him ? " Through the 
help of my psychically gifted friend, Mrs. Leonard, I was 
able to send a message to the young man's parents, having 
first taken means to attract his attention that I might 
explain to him when and how he could express what he 
wished to say to them. And the boy took his chance eagerly. 
In due time the mother heard that her son had spoken 
through a trance sensitive, and she received his detailed 
evidence of identity, as well as his words of affection. 

Now, how did this affect his grief-stricken parents ? 
Let me quote from the mother's letters :— 

" My husband and I are overcome with delight; 
it is,.su„ch wondcrfu^. evidence.-; Khad. gone to our 
darling's grave this evening, and there my husband 
joined me, bringing your letter ^And we felt as we 
have never felt since we lost our darling. I cannot tell 
* you-ihe-joy-it is~tb ‘feel you have been in communica¬ 
tion with him. My heart is full of gratitude Of course, 
I never doubted the future life, but oh, the comfort of 
. .having, this- to strengthen one's faith." 

And again, some weeks iater:— 

“'How we do bless you for’what‘you sent us that 
day. I think it saved me from a bad break-down. 
I never felt more utterly despondent than on that 
afternoon. My husband and I can never forget the 
feeling of confirmed hope and faith that came over us 
as we stood by the grave and read your letter." 

I pray for the hastening of that time when this comfort 
shall be placed within the reach of all, and this kind of com¬ 
munication shall prompt to the higher communion; when 
messages from loved ones beyond death shall make the 
spirit world so clear a reality that the souls of men will 
aspire to communion with the Lord of Life Himself. 


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