TWELFTH TALK 229
that it is not by any means a bad thing at an earlier
stage. It has its place in the evolutionary scheme.
You know well er?ough that the primitive man is full
of thought about eating and drinking, etc. It
would be quite useless to talk to a man like that
about Desirelessness. He could not rise to it. He
must pass through a stage of higher and more refined
desires, before he can rise to desirelessness. It is no
good saying to a man of that kind: t( Kill out desire."
It would be wiser to say: " Try to refine your desires.
There are other and grander things than these which
you are feeling, and you cannot rise to those in future
unless you are prepared to check the outrush of your
feelings." To substitute the higher for the lower is
a reason foi* restraint—that is about all you can do.
There is a quotation in one of the Upanishads which
runs something like this: '•' Until the bonds of the
heart are broken man cannot obtain immortality."
That sounds a hard thing to say—t( The bonds of the
heart"—for that includes the thing to which we
attach the very highest importance. But remember it
says, ec The bonds of the heart." Love itself is a
bond of the heart, if there is a grain of selfishness in
it; when it is utterly free from any thought of
selfishness, ^it is a power of the heart, but until the
bonds are broken, until the selfishness is weeded out,
yes, love itself may be a hindrance as well as help.
Of course the love of the Self in one man for the
Divine Self in another is everlasting. You cannot