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interesting. T thought him, indeed, rather dull. He did not; seem to have any conversational powers, and lie had no small talk. In business he was very frank.1
'You and he made the Kilmainham treaty*?'
Mr. Ghamhcrlain. 4 Yes. There has boon a good deal of discussion about the Kilmainham treaty about the terms of the treaty, or whothor there was any treaty. There was a treaty. And the terms on our side were that wo should doal with some phases of the land
question-......the arrears question, I think. This very
Kilmainham treaty is an instance of what I moan when I say that Parnell could divest himsr-lf of every subject oxco.pt the one that was practical at the moment, lie did not talk about 1 fome Huh* then. 'He knew it would be iiHoloKs. Ho took up a subject whieh wan practicable*,, and which could be used for the end he then had in view. The Kilmainham treaty wan made, the arrears question wan taken up, and Pnrnell got out. That compact would have been carefully kept, and a great change might have* boon made in affairs in Ireland, but the. Phamix Park murders carnr* and made a difference/
1 The murders led to the CrimoH Hill, which was a violation of the treaty?'
Mr. Chamberlain. 'Yen; the murders led to that; particular Crimes Hill. Had there been no murders there fitill would have been Homo sort of Bill for dealing with outrages. The suspension of tho Habeas Corpus Act would havo boon dropped, but something put in its place.1
*But the Grimes Bill which wan passed had boon prepared by Lord Gowper and Mr. Porster before they left 'oflico ?f
Mr. Chamberlain. * Yen; that in BO. But that Willsocially