The Life Of Charles Stewart Parnell - Ii

142 CHAELES STEWAET PAENELL [1886
' By the way, there is another point, Mr. Chamberlain, that I had forgotten, which I should like to put to you. Going away from the question of Canada, I find that in '85 Parnell was in touch with Lord Carnarvon through Mr. Justin McCarthy, or directly. He was in touch with you through Captain O'Shea. "Was he in communication with Mr. Gladstone at this time, directly or indirectly ?'
Mr. Chamberlain. 'Yes. He was in communication with Mr. Gladstone through a lady.' 'Mrs. O'Shea?'
Mr. Chamberlain. 'Yes.'
' Mr. Gladstone has frankly told me that. He told me that he had seen Mrs. O'Shea for the first time in 1882.'
Mr. Chamberlain. 'Yes, he told me the same thing.'
' May I take it that the Cabinet was practically in relation with Parnell through Mrs. O'Shea from 1882 ?'
Mr. Chamberlain. ' Yes.'
' May I ask a word about the Bound Table Conference ?'
Mr. Chamberlain. 'Yes.'
' Well, what was it exactly ? What were the points raised exactly ?'
Mr. Chamberlain. ' I revived my National Councils scheme at the Bound Table Conference. ,1 believe they were willing to accept it. They asked Parnell. Parnell would not have it, and that of course made an end in the matter. They thought they could turn him round like Trevelyan, but found they were mistaken.'
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