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ON    THE 


SECESSION  TO  THE  ROMISH  CHURCH. 


BY 


THE  EEV.  G.  S.  FIBER,  B.D. 


(Extracted from  the  "  Christianas  Monthly  Magazine'^). 


We  are  very  happy  to  be  able  to  lay  before  our  readers  a  letter 
from  one  long  tried  in  the  cause  of  truth,  the  Rev.  G.  Stanley  Faber, 
whose  high  standing  and  his  perfect  acquaintance  with  the  Romish 
controversy  make  his  opinion  so  exceedingly  valuable  in  the  midst 
of  Tractarian  defection  to  Rome.  It  would  be  impertinent  in  us  to  add 
one  word  of  comment.  The  letter  has  been  forwarded  to  us  by  the 
gentleman  to  whom  it  was  addressed,  together  with  a  copy  of  the  rea- 
sons which  were  alleged  for  the  meditated  secession  *. — Ed. 

My  dear  Sir,  Sherburn-house,  Nov.  12,  1845. 

Though  it  is  somewhat  arduous  for  me,  at  seventy-two,  and  only 
just  emerging  from  an  indisposition  of  nine  months'  duration,  to  enter 
upon  the  painful  topic  of  your  letter  ;  yet,  in  hopes  that,  through  God's 
mercy,  your  nephew  may  be  stayed  in  his  fatal  career,  I  will  readily 
take  up  my  pen  to  meet  his  paper. 


*  Copy  of  the  original  transmitted  to  the  Rev.  G.  S.  Faber. 

"  I  have  resolved  to  quit  the  Established  Church,  because  I  believe  it  to  be  a 
"  schismatical  body,  destitute  of  the  notes  of  the  true  Church  (which  all  holders  of  the 
"  creeds  admit) ;  so  far  from  being  one,  that  it  is  not  united  with  any  part  of  Christ- 
"  endom,  nor  yet  within  itself;  so  far  from  being  holy,  that  during  its  existence  it 
* '  has  not  produced  one  saint  or  (apart  from  politics)  one  martyr ;  so  far  from  being 
"  Catholic,  that  it  does  not  extend  over  the  sister  kingdoms  of  Scotland  and  Ireland ; 
' '  so  far  from  being  apostolic,  that  it  derives  the  mission  of  its  bishops,  at  highest, 
"  from  Queen  Elizabeth. 

"  I  have  resolved  to  seek  admittance  into  the  Roman  Church  mainly  upon  this 
"  ground.  Believing  the  Gospel,  I  believe  the  promises  of  our  Lord  to  be  un- 
"  doubtedly  true.  I  believe,  therefore,  that  He  always  has  been  and  is  with  the 
"  Church,  leading  her  into  all  truth  by  the  Spirit  of  truth,  whereby  she  always  has  been, 

B 


2  MR.  FABER  ON 

The  perusal  of  it  fully  convinces  me,  that  it  never  could  have  been 
written  by  any  honest  man,  who  had  carefully  studied  the  subject  on 
both  sides.  Now,  as  I  acquit  your  nephew  of  all  intentional  dishonesty, 
if  the  paper  be  really  his  production,  it  must  have  been  written  by  him 
purely  on  a  one-sided  view,  and  in  consequence  of  his  having  implicitly 
swallowed  all  that  his  Tractarian  or  Popish  instructors  have  thought  fit 
to  tell  him ;  for  any  other  supposition  involves  a  charge  of  deliberate 
dishonesty,  which  I  should  be  sorry  to  make  against  him.  But,  whoever 
may  have  indited  the  paper,  your  nephew  has  plainly  never  read  more 
than  on  one  side  of  the  question ;  and,  from  long  and  repeated  expe- 
rience, I  am  sorry  to  say,  that,  where  the  interests  of  their  Church  are 
concerned,  the  priesthood  of  Rome  are  so  entirely  the  reverse  of  being 
scrupulous  in  regard  to  truth,  that  I  have  made  it  a  rule  never  to  re- 
ceive any  startling  assertion  of  theirs  without  testing  it ;  and,  certainly, 
wherever  their  assertion  was  of  an  extraordinary  nature,  I  have  invari- 
ably, upon  examination,  found  them  falsifying. 


**  and  is,  the  pillar  and  ground  of  truth.  The  Church,  therefore,  is  infallible.  Now  it 
**  seems  absurd  to  maintain  that  this  infallibility  resides  in  divided  bodies  mutually 
"  anathematising  one  another  ;  because  the  Spirit  of  truth,  through  whom  the  Church 
*'  is  infallible,  is  the  Spirit  likewise  of  unity,  who  maketh  men  to  be  of  one  mind  in  a 
*'  house  ;  and  a  house  divided  against  itself  shall  surely  fall,  but  against  the  Church 
*'  the  gates  of  hell  shall  never  prevail.  The  Church,  being  thus  certainly  one  and 
**  absolutely  infallible,  and  having  always  been  so,  it  follows  both,  that  the  old 
*'  unreforraed  Church  is  the  true  Church,  and  that  all  that  the  true  Church  holds 
**  is  truth.  Now,  that  the  Roman  Church  is  the  old,  and  therefore  the  trae 
*'  Church,  we  know  not  more  surely  from  history  than  from  the  notes  of  the 
**  Church,  which  she  as  clearly  possesses,  as  every  other  religious  body  is  evi- 
**  dently  without,  through  which  notes  she  has  been  and  is  a  City  set  upon  a 
''  Hill,  a  Candle  giving  light  to  all  that  are  in  the  House.  Now,  this  Church 
**  declares  unhesitatingly,  that  it  is  essential  to  the  salvation  of  such  as  see  and  re- 
'*  cognise  her,  to  be  united  to  her  communion.  This,  since  I  do  see  and  recognise 
*'  her,  it  is  my  resolve  to  do.  Again,  a  man  left  without  an  infallible  guide  must, 
**  being  rational,  choose  his  way  for  himself.  Unless,  therefore,  he  follows  the  true 
"  Church,  he  must  walk  by  the  light  of  his  private  judgment.  Now  I,  if  I  take  the 
"  latter  alternative — no  less  than  if  I  take  the  former — shall  go  without  doubt  to 
*'  Rome;  since  I  judge  the  doctrines  of  Rome  to  be  more  rational  and  verisimilar 
^*  than  any  other  doctrines  whatever.  Nor  can  any  member  of  the  Established 
■**  Church,  which  rests  upon  private  judgment  only,  nor  yet  the  whole  estabUshment, 
^*  if  it  had  any  opinions,  (which  it  has  not,  for  as  many  ministers  as  it  has,  so  many 
^'  voices  has  it),  have  any  right  in  the  world  to  pronounce  a  man  wrong  who  in  hia 
*'  conscience  believes  it  necessary  for  his  salvation  to  join  the  Church." 

"  This  is  my  conviction,  and  I  do  not  see  how  any  member  of  the  Established 
"  Church  can  question  my  right  and  my  duty  to  follow  it." 
'November,  1845." 


1 


SECESSION  TO  THE  ROMISH  CHURCH.  3 

In  my  *'  Difficulties  of  Romanism"  I  have  carefully,  in  the  way  of 
historical  testimony,  examined  both  sides  of  the  question.  Has  your 
nephew  read  that  work?  and,  if  not,  will  he  refuse  to  read  it?  Should 
such  be  the  case,  it  is  vain  to  argue  with  him ;  for  a  shallow  and  yet 
determined  one-side  reader  puts  himself  out  of  the  pale  of  all  legiti- 
m  .te  discussion  ;  and  I  repeat  it,  had  your  nephew  honestly  studied  the 
subject,  instead  of  building  upon  the  unscrupulous  assertions  of  the 
Romish  priesthood,  he  never  could  either  have  written  the  paper  him- 
self, or  have  been  at  all  influenced  by  it,  if  received  from  another 
person. 

It  is  a  mingled  tissue  of  gratuitous  assumptions  and  daring  misrepre- 
sentations, or  rather,  indeed,  absolute  falsehoods. 

I.  The  real  foundation  upon  which  the  entire  paper  rests  is,  the 
claim  of  Infallibility  on  the  part  of  the  Church  of  Rome.  If  this 
claim  be  valid,  the  discussion  is  obviously  at  an  end.  Your  nephew, 
therefore,  as  preparatory  to  his  other  statements,  ought,  assuredly,  not 
alone  to  have  boldly  asserted  the  infallibility  of  the  Church  of  Rome, 
but  to  have  substantiated  his  assertion  by  some  distinct  and  tangible 
evidence. 

1.  Now  he  brings  no  proof  whatever,  either  from  Scripture  or  from 
history,  that  the  Church  of  Rome  is  infallible. 

He  does  nothing  more  than  loosely  intimate,  that  "  the  Church  is 
'*  infallible  through  the  Spirit  of  truth." 

Now,  even  if  this  unproved  assertion  were  admitted,  for  the  sake  of 
argument,  it  would  not  follow  that  the  Church  of  Rome  was  infallible, 
any  more  than  the  several  Churches  of  Greece,  and  Antioch,  and  Jeru- 
salem, and  Alexandria,  and  Armenia. 

But  this  is  the  usual  sophism  of  Romish  writers.  They  assume,  that 
the  Church  and  the  Church  of  Rome  are  synonymous  terms ;  and  then, 
as  if  this  mere  assumption  could  not  be  doubted,  they  boldly  argue  from 
it  as  a  point  altogether  incontrovertible. 

2.  Is  there  any  proof  from  Scripture  of  the  infallibility  of  the  Church 
of  Rome  ? 

Not  a  syllable.  If  anywhere,  we  might  expect  to  find  it  in  the  Epi- 
stle to  the  Romans.  But  St.  Paul,  so  far  from  saying  a  single  syllable 
about  this  pretended  infallibility,  actually  cautions  the  Romans  against 
falling  away  from  the  faith.     (Rom.  xi,  18 — 22). 

3.  Is  there  any  proof  from  history  ? 
Nothing  of  the  sort.     History  exhibits  Pope  against  Pope,  Council 

igainst  Council,  the  Roman  Church  of  one  age  against  the  Roman 
Jhurch  of  another  age. 

'  Where  was  infallibility,  when,  at  one  single  time,  there  were  three 

B  2 


i4  MR.  FAEER  ON 

Popes,  each  claiming  to  be  infallible,  and  each  cursing  the  other  as  an 
undoubted  limb  of  Antichrist  ? 

Where  was  infallibility,  when  the  present  Pope,  and  a  long  line  of  his 
predecessors,  severally  claimed  to  be  universal  bishops  and  the  centre  of 
unity,  while  Pope  Gregory  I  had  actually  declared,  that  the  person, 
who,  in  the  elation  of  his  heart,  should  call  himself,  or  even  desire  to 
be  called  Universal  Bishop^  was  the  forerunner  of  Antichrist  ?  If  Gre- 
gory was  right,  what  are  we  to  think  of  his  successors  ?  if  wrong,  what 
becomes  of  infallibility  ? 

4.  But  not  only  does  this  infallible  Church  contradict  itself;  it  like- 
wise, again  and  again,  contradicts  and  opposes  and  sets  aside  Scripture. 
Now,  Scripture  we  know  to  be  infallible.  Therefore,  it  is  a  palpable 
contradiction  in  terms  to  assert,  that  this  barefaced  contradiction  of 
Scripture  is  also  infallible. 

5.  Furthermore,  if  the  Roman  Church  were  infallible,  it  would  be 
easy  to  point  out  the  organ  by  which  the  decrees  of  this  infallibility  are 
communicated.  Some  declare  it  to  be  the  Pope  speaking  ex  cathedrd; 
others,  a  general  Council,  concurrently  with  the  Pope ;  others,  a  General 
Council,  such  as  that  of  Constance,  independently  of  the  Pope,  and 
even  opposed  to  him.  Has  your  nephew  ascertained  the  locality  of  that 
infallibility,  respecting  which  he  speaks  so  confidently ;  or,  if  he  thinks 
he  has,  why  are  we  to  prefer  his  alleged  locality  to  the  alleged  locality 
of  another  speculatist,  unless  he  be  himself  personally  infallible  ? 

6.  This  brings  me  to  the  last  difficulty  with  which  this  ridiculous 
absurdity  is  hampered. 

Even  if  the  Roman  Church  were  infallible,  and  even  if  the  organ  of 
its  infallibility  could  be  infaUibly  determined  by  some  infallible  inves- 
tigator, still  when  we  had  it,  not  the  slightest  use  could  we  derive  from 
it  in  the  way  of  what  Dr.  Milner  very  amusingly  calls  the  end  of  con- 
troversy ^  unless  every  Romish  individual  were  himself  \nid\\\\Ae  like- 
wise. Without  this  necessary  personal  infallibility,  how  can  your 
nephew  be  infallibly  certain  that  he  attaches  its  true  sense  to  an  infal- 
lible decision  of  the  infallible  Church  ? 

Both  respecting  transubstantiation  and  the  invocation  of  saints,  and 
the  use  of  images,  Roma  locuta  est;  but  not,  therefore,  causa  fnita 
est. 

Can  your  nephew,  or  any  Romanist,  infallibly  tell  me,  whether,  in  the 
process  of  transubstantiation,  the  elements  are  annihilated,  and  the 
body  and  blood,  and  divinity  and  soul,  of  Christ  are  substituted  in  their 
placed  or  whether,  in  the  same  process,  the  elements  are  transmuted 
into  the  body  and  blood,  and  divinity  and  soul,  of  Christ  ?  Unless  he 
can  be  infallibly  certain  how  on  this  point  he   ought  to  understand  t^ 


I 


SECESSION  TO  THE  ROMISH  CHURCH.  5 

infallible  decision,  he  may,  notwithstanding-  the  great  benefit  of  eccle- 
siastical infallibility,  be  himself  a  damnable  heretic  *. 

Again,  can  he  be  infallibly  certain,  that  he  understands  the  infallible 
decision  touching  the  invocation  and  veneration  and  relics  of  saints  and 
sacred  images,  as  given  in  the  25th  Session  of  the  infallible  Council  of 
Trent  ?  Can  he  define  infallibly  the  precise  intended  amount  of  the 
legitimate  use  of  images,  or  the  precise  intended  extent  of  the  due  honour 
and  veneration  which  the  infallible  Council  charges  all  good  Christians 
to  pay  to  images  ?  Unless  he  can  do  this,  he  can  never  be  infallibly 
certain  that  he  is  not  a  heretic  ;  for,  if  he  depart  one  tittle  or  one  poor 
scruple  from  the  sense  of  the  infallible  Council,  he  falls  into  heresy. 
The  varying  practice  of  Romanists  themselves  shews,  that  they  are  not 
unanimous  in  their  understanding  the  true  import  of  the  Council's  deci- 
sion. Such  being  the  case,  how  are  they  the  wiser  for  the  infallibility 
of  their  Church  ?  Clearly,  they  cannot  benefit  from  it,  unless  every 
single  individual  of  them  be  himself  personally  infallible. 

7.  Your  nephew  may  peradventure  say,  that  we  may  be  morally  cer- 
tain of  the  true  sense  of  an  infallible  decision,  just  as  we  may  be  morally 
certain  of  the  true  sense  of  Scripture. 

If  he  says  this,  he  at  once  cuts  up  Popery  by  the  roots,  and  falls  him- 
self into  a  flat  paralogism. 

The  constant  language  of  Rome  is,  that  we  cannot  be  even  morally 
certain  of  the  true  sense  of  Scripture  ;  and,  therefore,  that  we  need 
the  infallible  interpretation  of  that  infallible  Church.  And  this  is  plainly 
the  drift  of  your  nephew's  language.     Yet  here  lies  his  gross  paralogism. 

We  cannot,  forsooth,  be  morally  certain  of  the  true  sense  of  Scripture ; 
but  we  may  be  morally  certain  of  the  true  sense  of  an  infallible  decision 
or  interpretation  ! 

Nor  is  even  this  the  whole  amount  of  the  paralogism.  Moral  cer- 
tainty is  not  infallible  certainty ;  and,  unless  your  nephew  be  infallible, 
he  can  never  be  more  than  morally  certain  as  to  the  true  sense  of  a 
Romish  decision.  In  other  words,  he  can  claim  no  higher  certainty  as 
to  the  true  sense  of  a  pretended  infallible  decision,  than  we  of  the  Eng- 
lish Church  claim  as  to  the  true  sense  of  a  really  infallible  text  of  Scrip- 
ture. Under  such  circumstances,  how  does  he  profit  more  from  the  pre- 
tended infallibility  of  the  Romish  Church,  than  from  the  real  infallibility 
of  the  Bible ;  and  how,  in  going  over  to  Popery,  will  he  gain  a  single 

*  The  language  of  the  Council  of  Trent  bids  the  most  fair  for  the  latter  theory  : 
)ut  still  it  may  be  doubted,  whether  the  alleged  conversion  of  one  substance  into  an- 
)ther  is  effected  by  the  process  of  annihilation,  or  the  process  of  transmutation  ;  nor 
lo  I  see  how  this  knotty  point  can  be  infallibly  settled,  save  by  an  infallibly  under- 
tood  infallible  definition  of  the  QUOMODO. 


6  MR.  FABER  ON 

advantage  as  to  infallible  certainty,  which  he  does  not  equally  possess 
already  ? 

Can  your  nephew  explain  intelligibly,  either  to  himself  or  to  anybody 
else,  what  he  proposes  to  gain,  by  going  over  to  the  Church  of  Rome, 
in  the  way  of  infallible,  as  contra-distinguished  from  moral,  certainty, 
unless  he  himself  be  also  personally  endowed  with  infallibility  ? 

II.  The  utter  absurdity  of  the  Romish  claim  of  infallibility  being  thus 
sufficiently  shewn,  the  remainder  of  the  task  will  be  not  very  difficult. 

1.  Your  nephew  builds  upon  the  necessity  of  his  going  over  to  the 
Roman  Church  in  parficula?',  because,  in  his  opinion,  the  Church  Ca- 
tholic collectively  is  declared  to  be  the  pillar  and  ground  of  faith. 

Here,  again,  we  have  the  old  stock  assumption,  that  the  Church  col- 
lectively and  the  Church  of  Rome  are  synonymous.  Now,  even  if  it  were 
declared  that  the  Church  collectively  is  the  pillar  and  ground,  this  would 
no  more  make  the  Roman  Chu7'ch  exclusively  that  pillar  than  the  Churches 
of  Constantinople  or  Antioch  or  Alexandria  or  Armenia,  all  of  which,  by 
the  judgment  of  Rome  herself,  have  lost  the  character  of  pillars.  But 
if  your  nephew  will  consult  so  very  common  a  book  as  Griesbach's  New 
Testament,  he  will  find,  that,  by  the  proper  punctuation  of  the  passage, 
not  THE  Church  even  collectively,  but,  agreeably  to  the  whole  analogy 
of  the  Christian  faith,  the  great  mystery  of  Godliness,  is  declared 
to  be  the  pillar  and  foundation  of  the  truth.  Yet,  even  if  the  col- 
lective Church  were  intended,  we  shouldhave  no  proof  of  infallibility 
in  the  Romish  sense  of  the  word  ;  and,  accordingly,  Rome  herself  being 
judge,/ac^5haveshewn,that  the  Church  collectively  is  wo^  infallible. 

2.  Still,  however,  under  the  travestied  name  of  the  Church,  your 
nephew  contends^  that  the  Church  of  Rome  is  infallible ;  and  that,  as 
such,  all  she  holds  is  truth;  and,  consequently,  that  she  has  never 
varied  in  doctrine. 

Doubtless,   she  herself  declares,  that  the  faith  propounded  by  the 
Council  of  Trent  was   always  in  the  Church.     Semper  hcEC  fides  in 
Ecclesid  Dei  fuit.     But,  in  making  this  bold  assertion,  she  asserts  a 
fact,   and  the   documentary  evidence    of  history   shews    the   alleged 
FACT  to  be  a  rank  falsehood.     Take  only,  as  a  single  instance,  her 
doctrine  of  justification,  defined,  for  the  first  time,  by  the  Council  fl^l 
Trent,  in  the  sixteenth  century.     Her  doctrine  is,  by  anticipation,  d^P 
rectly  condemned  by  Clement  of  Rome,  who  maintains,  as  indeed  the^, 
whole  succession  of  Fathers  do,  from  Clement  down  to  Bernard,  th^H 
precise  doctrine,  which  Luther  revived,  after  it  had  been  smothered  by 
the  schoolmen  toward  the  close  of  the  twelfth  century,  and  which  tl^Hj 
blundering  Tridentines,  with  most   disgraceful  ignorance,  have  actually™' 
anathematised.    Indeed,  what  is  curious  enough  in  an  infallible  Church, 
which  professes  to  have  never  varied  in  doctrine,  in  the  very  days  of 


SECESSION  TO  THE  ROMISH  CHURCH.  7 

the  Council  of  Trent,  many  Romanists,  such  as  Cardinal  Pole,  Con- 
tarini,  and  others,  maintained  a  doctrine,  so  essentially  identical  with 
the  old  doctrine  revived  by  Luther,  that,  if  Luther  were  a  heretic,  then 
were  they  also  heretics,  as  likewise  Clement  of  Rome,  Athanasius,  Ber- 
nard, and,  in  short,  the  whole  succession  of  what  are  called  Fathers. 

3.  But  your  nephew  thinks,  and  thinks  truly,  that  infallibility  cannot 
reside  "  in  divided  bodies  mutually  anathematising  one  another." 

I  never  heard  of  Protestant  Churches  '*  mutually  anathematising  one 
another;"  because,  while  (as  their  published  confessions  shew)  they 
fully  agree  in  essentials,  they  may  differ  in  subordinates ;  but  I  have 
heard  much  of  the  anathemas  employed  by  the  Romish  Church,  and  I 
have  some  recollection,  that,  when  Rome  was  split  into  three  divisions 
under  three  rival  popes,  the  heads  of  these  three  divisions  "  mutually 
"  anathematised  one  another,"  with  abundance  both  of  bitterness  and 
perseverance  ;  so  that,  if  it  be  "  absurd  to  maintain  that  infallibility 
"  resides  in  divided  bodies  mutually  anathematising  one  another," 
wherein,  par  paranthese,  I  quite  agree  with  your  nephew,  then,  on  his 
own  declared  principle,  it  is  "  absurd"  to  look  for  infallibility  in  the 
Church  of  Rome. 

Nor  is  this  all.  Look  at  the  differences  between  the  Franciscans  and 
the  Dominicans,  between  the  Jesuits  and  the  Jansenists,  between  the 
Ultramontanes  and  the  Cismontanes,  and  then  determine  how  infalli- 
bility can  reside  in  these  "  divided  bodies." 

Your  nephew  may  say,  that  they  differ  only  upon  open  questions.  I 
might  retort,  if  I  pleased,  that,  notwithstanding  Bossuet's  hyperbolical 
Variations,  the  same  also  is  the  difference  among  Protestant  Churches, 
though  I  never  heard  of  their  anathematising  one  another.  But  here  I 
may  justly  raise  a  question  against  Popery,  which  he  cannot  raise 
against  Protestantism.  If  the  Church  of  Rome  be  infallible,  why  does 
she  not  beneficially  use  her  infallibility,  by  turning,  through  an  infallible 
decision,  these  open  questions  into  close  questions  ?  If  she  cannot  give 
a  decision,  she  confessedly  is  not  infallible  ;  and,  if  she  will  not  give  a 
decision,  she  at  once  dissolves  her  boasted  pretence  of  unity,  by  a  deli- 
berate encouragement  of  disunion  among  her  jarring  members. 

4.  He  asserts,  that  we  know  from  history,  that  "  the  Roman  Church 
"is  the  old  and  therefore  the  true  Church." 

If,  by  old,  he  means,  comparatively  to  all  other  Churches,  the  oldest^ 
history  teaches  us  the  very  opposite.  And,  if  by  old  he  means  simply 
reaching  hack  to  the  Apostolic  age,  history  teaches  us,  that  many  other 
Churches  have  a  distinct  pedigree  quite  as  long.  In  either  case,  oldness 
is  no  more  a  proof  that  Rome  is  "  therefore  the  true  Church,"  than  that 
Antioch,  or  Jerusalem,  or  Alexandria  are  severally  "  the  true  Church." 

The  simple  fact  is,  that  Rome,  without  a  shadow  of  claim,  arrosratinff 


8  MR.  FABER  ON 

to  herself  exclusively  the  character  of  the  Catholic  Church,  thence  com- 
pendiously pronounces,  to  the  entire  satisfaction  of  your  unhesitating 
nephew,  that  "  every  other  religious  body  is  evidently  without ;  "  whence 
he  rapidly  jumps  to  the  conclusion,  as  quite  indisputable,  that,  since 
"  this  Church  declares  unhesitatingly,  that  it  is  essential  to  salvation  to 
"  be  united  to  her  communion,"  therefore,  without  a  shadow  of 
proof,  we  must  devoutly  believe  the  truth  of  such  declaration. 

That  every  other  religious  body  is  evidently  without  the  Church  of 
Rome,  is  a  mere  truism ;  but,  before  we  can  admit  your  nephew's  hasty 
conclusion,  that  therefore  every  other  religious  body  is  without  the 
Catholic  Church  of  Christ,  we  must  have  proof,  which  (so  far  as  my  own 
reading  extends)  has  never  yet  been  given,  that  the  Catholic  Church  of 
Christ  is  confined  within  the  limits  of  the  particular  Church  of  Rome. 
The  Romanists,  as  we  all  know,  assert  this ;  and  your  nephew,  ap- 
parently without  a  vestige  of  inquiry,  admits  their  assertion,  and  abso- 
lutely professes  his  resolution  to  act  upon  it ;  yet,  I  believe,  most  sober 
persons  doubt,  whether  bold  assertion  and  clear  proof  be  precisely 
identical. 

5.  I  conclude,  that  your  nephew,  if  he  has  at  all  sought  for  proof, 
will  fancy  that  he  has  found  it  in  that  declaration  of  our  Lord,  which 
the  Romanists  confidently  interpret  to  mean,  that  the  Church  is  built 
upon  the  rock  Peter  and  his  alleged  successors  in  the  paramount  bishop- 
ric of  Rome. 

In  this  case,  he  must  be  ignorant,  that  no  such  interpretation  of  our 
Lord's  assertion  occurs  in  any  of  the  writers  antecedently  to  the  Coun- 
cil of  Nice,  nor  yet  (J  believe)  in  any  writer  even  considerably  posterior 
to  that  famous  council.  The  rock  is  variously  understood  to  mean, 
Peter  s  corfession,  or  the  divinity  of  Christ  declared  in  that  confession, 
or  the  individual  Peter  himself  as  having  made  such  a  confession;  but 
NEVER,  Peter  and  the  succession  of  Roman  bishops  *.  Some  such  claim 
was  first  preferred  by  the  then  Roman  bishop  at  the  end  of  the  second 
century ;  but  TertuUian,  who  mentions  it,  mentions  it  only  to  laugh  at 
its  mingled  impudence  and  absurdity. 

Accordingly,  the  first  Council  of  Nice,  which  sat  in  the  year  325, 
when  confirming  the  independent  jurisdiction  of  the  four  great  patri- 
archates, merely  gives  to  Rome  a  barren  precedency ;  and  that,  not  on  the 
score  of  the  Roman  bishop  being  the  inheritor  of  a  pretended  authorita- 
tive primacy   of  St.  Peter,  but  purely  on  the  secular  basis  of  Rome 

*  It  has,  I  think,  been  abundantly  shewn,  that  no  such  sense  can  be  legitimately 
extracted  from  the  often- cited  language  of  Cyprian.  He  speaks  of  the  Church  being 
built  upon  Peter,  but  not  upon  Peter  and  Peter^s  alleged  successors  conjointly.  The 
oldest  interpretation  is  that  preserved  by  Justin,  about  a.d.  150  ;  and  he  makes  the 
foundation  of  Christ's  Church  to  be,  not  Peter  himself,  but  Peter's  confession. 


SECESSION  TO  THE  ROMISH  CHURCH.  9 

being  the  ancient  metropolis  of  the  empire,  all  grounds  of  doubt  being 
effectually  removed  by  the  adjudication  of  the  second  place  to  the 
Patriarch  of  Constantinople,  on  the  parallel  basis  of  Constantinople 
being  new  Rome  and  the  existing  capital  *.  Nothing,  therefore,  (even 
to  pretermit  the  stubborn  fact,  that,  according  to  Irengeus,  Peter  never 
was  Bishop  of  Rome),  nothing  can  be  more  absurdly  idle,  than  the 
claim  set  up  through  an  interested,  and  comparatively  modern  gloss 
upon  Matt,  xvi,  18,  19. 

6.  Your  nephew,  by  asserting  that  the  Church  of  England  is  destitute 
of  the  notes  of  the  true  Church,  of  course  asserts  also,  that  the  Church, 
which  he  purposes  to  join,  does  possess  them. 

He  alludes,  I  suppose,  to  the  four  notes  of  Unity,  Sanctity, 
Catholicity,  and  Apostolicity,  as  given  by  Dr.  Milner.  Now,  I 
will  venture  to  say,  that  the  English  Church  possesses  all  these  four 
notes  in  «^  least  as  high  a  degree  as  the  Roman  Church, 

(1).  If,  by  Unity,  he  means  Unity  within  itself ^  the  English  Church 
is  quite  as  much  internally  united  as  the  Roman  Church.  As  for  the 
Tractarians,  they  are  mere  Papists  under  a  different  name,  dishonestly 
holding  English  preferment,  when  they  can  get  it,  with  Romish  doc- 
trines. They,  consequently,  as  not  belonging  legitimately  to  the  Eng- 
lish Church,  must  obviously  be  thrown  out  of  the  reckoning,  Rome  is 
heartily  welcome  to  such  tamperers  with  Mammon  ;  and,  the  sooner  the 
whole  set  go  out  from  among  us,  for  they  are  not  of  us,  the  better. 
This  being  premised,  any  subordinate  differences  among  ourselves  are 
not  a  jot  greater  than  those  which  notoriously  exist  in  the  Roman 
Church ;  consequently,  in  this  sense  of  the  word,  we  possess  Unity  as 
much  as  Rome. 

If,  on  the  other  hand,  by  Unity,  he  means  communion  with  other 
independent  Churches^  England  has  quite  as  much  of  this  sort  of  unity 
as  Rome.  And  well  she  may;  for  Rome,  notoriously,  has  no  commu- 
nion out  of  her  own  pale ;  and,  so  far  from  possessing  Catholic  unity, 
she  is  a  complete  theological  Ishmael,  her  hand  against  every  man,  and 
every  man*s  hand  against  her.  As  for  asserting  that  she  herself  exclus- 
ively constitutes  the  Universal  Church,  this  is  a  pure  begging  of  the 
question.  She  is  a  member,  indeed,  though  a  wofully  diseased  mem- 
ber of  the  Church  Universal ;  but  to  call  her  on  that  account  the 
Catholic  Church  is  the  same  as  to  call  a  diseased  leg  the  whole  body. 

(2).  Next  comes  the  note  of  Sanctity.     How  this   note  belongs 

*  The  same  is  repeated  in  the  28th  canon  of  the  Council  of  Chalcedon,  a.d.  451. 
It  adjudges  to  the  two  Patriarchs  of  Rome  and  Constantinople  equal  jurisdictions. 
TO.  la  a  TTpiij^tia. 


10  MR.  FABER  ON 

specially  to  Rome,  and  does  not  belong  to  England,  your  nephew 
would  do  well  to  inquire.  Does  he  rest  the  claim  for  Rome  on  the 
abominations  of  the  Confessional,  or  on  the  principles  of  the  Jesuits,  so 
admirably  exposed  by  Pascal,  and  now  open  to  the  whole  world  in  the 
published  Secreta  Monita  ? 

But  the  English  Church,  it  seems,  "  so  far  from  being  holy,  has  not, 
"  during  its  existence,  produced  one  saint." 

If,  by  sainty  your  nephew  means  one  who  has  been  dubbed  a  saint  by 
the  silly  process  of  a  Romish  canonisation^  it  is  true  enough,  that  not  a 
single  saint  of  that  very  ambiguous  stamp  has  been  produced  by  our 
Reformed  Church.  But  we  have  yet  to  learn,  that  no  saints  exist  save 
those  of  the  Pope's  somewhat  questionable  manufactory. 

Neither  again,  says  your  nephew,  has  the  English  Church  produced  a 
single  martyr,  "  apart  from  politics  ;"  MaKapt^cu  aTrXoTqra,  as  old  Thucy- 
dides  would  say.  Where  can  he  have  studied  the  familiar  History  of 
England  ? 

(3).  Next  we  have  Catholicity.  This  your  nephew  claims  for 
Rome,  and  denies  to  England  ;  remarking,  that,  so  far  from  being  Ca- 
tholic, the  English  "  Church  does  not  extend  over  the  sister  kingdoms 
"  of  Scotland  and  Ireland." 

If  this  be  sound  reasoning,  then  neither  can  the  Roman  Church 
claim  Catholicity ;  for,  to  adopt  the  gentleman's  own  illustrative  phra- 
seology, the  Roman  Church,  "  so  far  from  being  Catholic,  does  not 
"  extend  over  more,  at  the  very  most,  than  a  moiety  of  Christendom." 
But,  in  truth,  some  Romish  priest,  or  some  discontented  Tractarian,  has 
evidently  gulled  him  by  the  ambiguity  of  the  word  Catholic.  In  the 
sense  of  the  Catholic  Church,  neither  the  Church  of  Rome,  nor  any 
other  provincial  Church,  is  Catholic.  But,  in  the  sense  of  a  Catholic 
Church,  the  Church  of  England,  as  a  sound  branch  of  Christ's  Universal 
Church,  is,  at  the  least,  as  Catholic  as  a  palpably  unsound  branch,  like 
Rome.  Before  your  nephew  decides  so  peremptorily,  he  would  do  well 
to  give  definitions,  and  study  precision  of  language. 

(4).  But  our  unfortunate  England  cannot  claim  the  note  of  Aposto- 
LiciTY,  because  your  nephew  has  learned  from  history,  that  "  she  de- 
"  rives  the  mission  of  her  bishops,  at  the  highest,  from  Queen  Eliza- 
''  beth." 

I  would  advise  him  to  read  Father  Courayer's  Work  on  the  English 
Orders  ;  and  I  would  refer  him  to  the  plain  explanatory  declaration  of 
our  37th  Article  ;  which,  if  he  has  read  it  at  all,  he  cannot  have  read 
with  even  moderate  attention. 

Meanwhile,  I  would  remind  him,  that  the  best  Apostolicity  is  a  sound 
following  of  the  doctrine  of  the  Apostles,  which  the  English  Church 


SECESSION   TO  THE   ROMISH  CHURCH.  11 

possesses,  and  which  the  Romish  Church  undoubtedly  does  not  possess ; 
and  I  would  tell  him,  which  probably  he  and  sundry  other  Tractarians 
do  not  know,  that  Archbishop  Laud  answers  Fisher,  the  Jesuit,  on  this 
very  point,  by  denying  the  least  value  to  Apostolical  succession  of  orders 
without  the  concomitance  of  a  possession  of  Apostolical  succession  of 
doctrine.  Hence,  I  venture  to  think,  that  the  Church  of  England  pos- 
sesses true  Apostolicity,  while,  with  Laud,  I  deny  it  to  the  Church  of 
Rome. 

7.  Your  nephew,  finally,  is  sure,  that  all  who  decline  walking  by  the 
infallibility  of  Rome  must  "walk  by  the  light  of  their  own  private 
"  judgment." 

In  the  first  place,  I  would  ask  him,  how  a  man  is  to  walk  by  an  infal- 
libility which  itself  hdi's,  no  existence  ? 

And,  in  the  next  place,  I  would  ask  him,  where  he  learned  that  the 
Church  of  England  teaches  all  her  members  to  walk  by  the  light  of  their 
own  private  judgment  ?  Certainly,  I  read  it  not  in  the  book.  The 
Church  of  England,  as  in  many  of  my  works  I  have  repeatedly  quoted 
the  statements  of  that  Church  and  her  friends,  explicitly  disavows  all 
walking  by  insulated  private  judgment;  but  then  she  very  rationally 
refers  us,  instead  of  our  insulated  private  judgment,  7iot  to  the  day- 
dream of  ever-shifting  Romish  infallibility,  but  to  the  historical  testi- 
mony of  the  ancient  fathers  and  doctors  of  the  really  primitive  and 
early  Church.  Nay,  that  very  Elizabeth,  to  whom  he  idly  ascribes  the 
mission  of  our  bishops,  will  set  him  right  touching  hi§  egregious  mistake 
on  the  point  of  private  judgment.  I  shall  give  her  own  words,  in  reply 
to  the  Emperor  and  other  Popish  sovereigns  of  the  day,  as  they  are  pre- 
served by  Camden. 

"  Nee  causam  subesse  uUam  cur  concederet,  cum  Anglia  non  novam 
"  aut  alienam  amplectatur  religionem  ;  sed  eam,  quam  Christus  jussit, 
"  prima  et  Catholica  Ecclesia  coluit,  et  vetustissimi  Patres  una  voce 
"  et  mente  comprobarunt."  Camden.  Rerum  Anglican.  Annal.  par.  i. 
p.  28. 

Your  nephew,  without  any  due  examination,  has  implicitly  swallowed, 
and  simply  retailed,  the  old  stock  falsehood  of  the  Popish  controver- 
sialists. 

I  believe  I  have  now  noticed  the  whole  of  his  paper.  You  are  at 
perfect  liberty  to  make  whatever  use  you  please  of  this  letter,  either 
private  or  public ;  and,  as  I  am  not  in  the  habit  of  writing  anonymously, 
I  shall  subscribe  myself,  for  all  whom  it  may  concern, 

Yours,  very  truly, 

G.  S.  Faber. 


1*2  MR.  FABER  ON 

Letter  to  the  Editor  of  the  "  Christian's  Monthly/  Magazine." 
THE  ROMANIST  APPEAL  TO  ECCLESIASTICAL  ANTIQUITY . 

Sir, 

I  am  inclined  to  think,  that  a  peculiarity,  respecting  the  professed 
GROUND  on  which  the  decisions  of  the  Council  of  Trent  have  been 
made  to  repose,  has  not,  either  generally  or  sufficiently,  been  noticed. 

The  common  idea  seems  to  be,  that  the  decisions  of  that  Council 
are  purely  dogmatical^  resting  upon  nothing  save  a  gratuitously  as- 
sumed infallibility.  Whence  it  would  follow :  that,  while  the  Papists 
receive  them  on  the  score  of  their  being  nakedly  infallible  declarations, 
from  which  lies  no  appeal,  Protestants  reject  all  those  which  disagree 
with  their  own  creed,  on  the  broad  ground  that  infallibility  is  (what, 
indeed,  abstractedly  is  true  enough)  a  mere  impudently  ridiculous 
figment. 

But  this  idea  is  altogether  incorrect.  By  a  sort  of  what  really  seems 
like  a  judicial  infatuation,  the  individuals,  who  constituted  the  Council 
of  Trent,  do  not  rest  their  decisions  upon  the  ground  of  an  asserted 
Conciliar  or  Papal  Infallibility y  but  upon  the  entirely  different  ground 
of  a  confident  appeal  to  Ecclesiastical  Antiquity  from  the  very  beginning, 
and  therefore  to  an  antiquity  which  commences  with  and  includes  the 
New  Testament. 

Now  such  an  appeal  is  plainly  a  direct  assertion  of  an  historical 
FACT.  Consequently,  like  the  assertion  of  any  other  historical  fact,  it 
must  be  tested  by  an  examination  of  history  itself.  If  history,  com- 
mencing with  the  New  Testament,  substantiates  the  asserted  fact  : 
then,  no  doubt,  we  must  receive  it.  But,  if  history,  commencing  with 
the  New  Testament,  either  negatively  refuses  to  substantiate,  or  posi- 
tively and  explicitly  contradicts,  the  asserted  fact  :  then,  according 
to  the  simple  dictate  of  merely  plain  common  sense,  we  must  reject  it. 
Unless  this  be  admitted,  there  is  an  end  to  the  value  of  Historical  Testi- 
mony :  and  it  is  quite  nugatory  to  appeal  to  it,  as  the  Tridentines  pro- 
fessedly do,  unless  the  Romanists  will  be  bound  by  an  appeal  delibe- 
rately made  by  the  strictly  official  members  of  their  own  Communion. 

I,  After  this  exordium,  it  will,  of  course,  be  only  fair  and  proper  to 
exhibit  some  specimens  of  the  appeal :  in  order  that,  so,  the  professed 
ground  of  the  Tridentine  Decisions  may  be  indisputably  evident  even 
to  the  most  careless  inquirer. 

1.  The  Council  assures  us :  that  certain  traditions,  appertaining  both 


SECESSION  TO  THE  ROMISH  CHURCH.  13 

to  faith  and  morals,  either  orally  delivered  by  Christ  or  dictated  by  the 
Holy  Spirit,  have  been  preserved,  through  a  continual  succession,  in  the 
Catholic  Church  :  whence  they  are  to  be  received  with  the  same  rever- 
ence as  Scripture  itself.  Concil.  Trident,  sess.  iv,  pp.  7,  8.  Edit. 
Antwerp,  a.  d.  1644. 

Can  these  assurances  be  verified  by  history  ? 

2.  The  Council  professes  to  deliver  that  sound  doctrine  respecting 
the  Sacrament  of  the  Eucharist,  which  the  Catholic  Church,  instructed 
by  Christ  and  his  Apostles  and  the  Holy  Spirit,  has  always  [semper] 
held.     Sess.  xiii,  p.  122. 

Does  history,  sacred  and  ecclesiastical,  substantiate  this  profession  ? 

3.  Respecting  the  doctrine  of  Transubstantiation  as  defined  by  itself, 
the  Council  declares  :  that  this  Faith  was  always  in  the  Church  of  God. 
Semper  haec  fides  in  Ecclesia  Dei  fuit.     Sess.  xiii,  c.  3,  p.  124. 

Can  the  truth  of  this  declaration  be  proved  by  the  testimony  of 
history  ? 

4.  The  Council  asserts  that:  the  Universal  Church  always  [semper] 
understood  complete  confession  of  sins  to  a  priest  to  have  been  insti- 
tuted, as  a  point  of  necessity,  by  our  Lord  Himself.  Sess.  xiv,  c.  5,  p. 
148. 

Can  this  assertion,  respecting  the  auricular  confession  of  the  Romish 
Church,  be  verified  by  history,  either  scriptural  or  ecclesiastical  ? 

5.  Notwithstanding  the  full  satisfaction  made  for  sin  by  Christ,  the 
Council  declares  :  that  the  doctrine  of  man's  being  able  and  bound  to 
make  satisfaction  for  his  own  sins  was,  through  the  whole  course  of 
time  past   [perpetuo  tempore],  recommended,  to  Christian  people,  by 
our  fathers.     Sess.  xiv,  c,  8,  p.  156. 

Is  this  declaration  supported  by  the  testimony  of  history  ? 

6.  The  Council  asserts :  that  the  sacrament  of  Extreme  Unction  was 
instituted  by  our  most  clement  Saviour.  Sess.  xiv,  c.  1,  pp.  159, 
160. 

Is  the  adduction  of  the  language  of  St.  James  (Epist.  v.  14,  15)  by 
the  Council  any  valid  historical  proof  of  the  assertion :  seeing  that  the 
language  of  the  Apostle,  and  the  Romish  doctrine  of  Extreme  Unction, 
differ,  toto  coelo,  from  each  other  ? 

7.  The  Council  declares  :  that  no  Divine  command  requires  either  the 
Laity  or  the  non-officiating  Clergy  to  receive  the  Eucharist  in  both  kinds  : 
for,  although  (it  goes  on  to  pronounce)  Christ  established  and  delivered 
to  his  Apostles  this  sacrament  under  the  species  of  bread  and  wine  ;  yet 
neither  that  institution,  nor  the  tradition  of  it,  requires,  that  all  the 
faithful  are  bound  to  receive  the  Eucharist  in  both  kinds.  Sess.  xxi, 
c.  1,  p.  203. 


d6  MR.  FABER  ON  SECESSION  TO  THE  ROMISH  CHURCH. 

only  The  Lord's  Table  or  The  Communion  Table :  and,  from  this  usage 
of  the  word  Altar  by  the  venerable  primitive  Father,  he,  curiously,  on 
the  principle  of  development,  proves,  that  the  Eucharist  was  always 
(as  the  Tridentines  speak)  held  to  be  a  propitiatory  sacrifice  for  the 
sins  of  both  the  quick  and  the  dead.  The  proof,  no  doubt,  is  very 
ingenious :  but  its  satisfactoriness,  I  fear,  will  be  considerably  abated 
by  this  same  mischievous  Syriac  version,  from  which  it  appears,  that  the 
alleged  Altar  of  the  primeval  Ignatius  is  nothing  more  respectable 
than  a  mere  interpolation.  Probably  with  sundry  other  extraordinary 
matters  which  all  turn  out  to  have  been  interpolated,  it  was  introduced 
into  the  Greek  text  during  the  fourth  or  fifth  century,  when  the  glaring 
heresy  associated  with  it  had,  no  doubt,  crept  into  the  then  rapidly  apo- 
statising Church. 

G.  S.  Faber. 
Sherhurn-home,  November  26th,  1845, 


LONDON: 
w.  m'dowall,  printer,  pemberton  row,  GOUGH  SaUARE, 


I