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FROM-THE- LIBRARY-OF 
TRINITYCOLLEGETORDNTO 


ER 


AN  ANS 

TO  ABOOK  ENTITVLED 
T  H  E 

HOLY    T  A  B  L  E 


Written  and  infcribed  to  the 
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77*  /f 


leirncH 


i  COR.  14,40. 


^ 


Let  all  thing,  h  done  deumly  and  in  order 


1ZZ602 

OCT  2  S  1986 


4..-  *«    * 


TO  THE  KINGS 


MOST    EXCELLENT 


A  f  E  S  ff  I  E, 


CHARLES, 

BYTHEQRACEOFGon 

King  of  Great  Britafnc,France,and 

Ireland,  Defender  of  the  Faith,&c. 


Moft  cf  read  Soveraigne  : 


Our  Majeflies  extmpla- 
rie piety  in  the  houfe  of 

d^J   7     .7    n          i  .  -^  ,_ 


>  hath  fired  itfdfe 
abroad    amonpfl     all 

O       f  •      /— » 


jour  Subjects ;  and  they 
,  We  M  Troficients  in 

ook  of  piety JtJtbej  not  profit  very 

much 


. . .  1_. 

THE    EPISTLE 


much  under  fucb  a  Ma/ler.  Your  T(oy  all 
and  religious  care,  that  all  things  in  jour 
"K^all  fyappeh  be  done  accord  ing  to  the 
prefcript  ofthcpuMc{Liturgie>  andw* 
dent  ufage  of  tbu  Church,,  u  a  prevailing 
motive  unto  ally  our  people  ,not  to  be  bact. 
ward  in  conformity  to  fuel)  an  eminent' 
part  of  jour  Trincdj  vcrtues.Suchamofl 
excellent  pattcrnc  would  foonc  find  an  uni~ 
V  erf  all  inter  tainmcnt  in  the  hearts  of  men  . 
were  there  notjomc,  the  enemies  as  we/I  of 
pictj^s  publicly  Order,  that  dijjmdefrom 
both.  S^oncin  tbh  kind  more  faulty  than 
an  obfcure  and  namclejje  Miniftcr  of 
Lincoln  Diocek,wad//courfco/hi*not 
long  fincepublificd.  ?A  man  that  maizes  a 
frort  of  your  ^S^/Iajc/lics  Cbappcls,asba- 
WHotjtA.  ting  nner  ("0  bcxrd  of  the  nfe  of  the 

cle.p.  3®.          x  i  t  "^ 


t  if  "^ 

,  nor  read  of  any  ordering  anddi~ 
(b)  ibi  P  83,  r<Sing  courfe  from  the  <%>yall  fyappells  . 
S4  s  j,^r.  and  puts  a  fcorne  upon  (  b  )  the  piety  of 

the 


DEDICATORIE. 

the  times , w-  being  fo  inclinable  (by  your 
moftf acred  Matl™  divine  example}  to  de~ 
cencie  and  uniformity  in  Gods  public^ 
fertice.  J\£ayja>hereM  in  the  'Primitive 
times  y  the  holy  Altars,  as  they  then  ufed  to 
call  the  Communion  Yables(for  other  Al~ 
tars  they  Were  notjwre  eficemcdfofacrcd, 
that  Wen  f c )  the  barbarous  Souldiers  ho-  ( 

I    I  •   I       /rr/-  /  •  r  /•    i 

noured  them  with  affectionate  fa  yes  :  tlm  Alcana,  Oe 
man  expojethtbcm  to  contempt  and  fcait*  ^.J.5  p^"^1 
,  £/4/f,  utfnotermei  were  vile  enough  to  ^nc'Es' 
be/low   upon  them.   3\(or  dealcs  he(u  r^-i* 
otherypifc'ftith  thcmy  riboout  of  their  due 
to  Cjod,  and  for  the  honour  ofth(L~> 
ormation  again/I  the  unjufl  imputa 
tions  of  tbof~e  of  Itymc,   and  thcprocu~ 
ringC)  tf  due  reverence  to  Chrijls  bo- 

ly  Sacraments  C too  much  flighted  tn  thefe 

•  i«ii  • 

times,  and  in  many  places')  ha^e  tra*vai+ 

led  to  reduce  thi*  Church  to  tlwt  ancient 
Order ,  which  hath  bccne  hitherto  pre* 

A  3  fervid 


- 


Jened  in  jow  ^Majejiiet  v     . 
and  the  (^athedrallsoftbts  ^ingdome^^ 
(OH./;r*.  whom  he  bath  openly  traduced,  us  (')  if 


of 

,   and  meant  in  time  to  boxe  a    • 
boutvitbtbefortitfelfe.  In  this  regard,. 
J  though  it  vat  my  boitnden  duty  ion- 
prefent  unto  jour  s5Majefliet  faith/ull 
and  obedient  Su\>]Ss  the  trm  condition 
of  the  bu/ine/e  fo  by  him  calumniated! 
wether  with  the  dSrine  and  conttnuaU 
uftge  both  of  the  Trimitiie  Qm&  of 
Chrift,  in  tkelfbrld abroad ,   and  tbe-> 
'Reformed  QMK\>  of  Cbrifl  in  tbi*  your 
^MMftiet^lme  of  England.  Which 
vorle^,  as  it  wets  principally  attended  to 
fettle  and  confrine  the  tnindes  of  your 
' iZMa'yflict  people ,   vlwu  fame  b<Tte-> 
U  loured  to  ftffcje  t»itb  predicate  fears : 
fo  to  the  end  it  may  receive  amongtt  them 
4  more  faire  admittance,  1  bate  prefmed 

to 


JJKDICATORIE. 

to  pro/Irate  loth  mjjelfe  and  it ,  at  jour 
<Rf>y  all  feet jtith  that  humility  and 
,  rencewbicb  bejl  becomes 


•  moft  obedient  Subjcft, 


•  mod  dutiful!  Chaplain*, 


PET:  HITLIN? 


PREFACE  TO  THE 

GRAVE,   LEARNED, 

and  religious  Clergie  of *th^ 
Dioccfle  of  L  i  N  c  o  L  N. 

» T  is  well  noted  by  the  Poet,  that  the  f -)  rcmc Jy  (,)  Sc  «i  me*. 

oth  come  too  late,  when  onccthetnifchicfcis  cina  pmuir, 
conhrmcd  and  fctlcd  by  too  lonq  c'clayes.  And  v':"ni  mi1-1  P-r 
thereupon  he  hath  advifed  u^Frincipiiscbfare    lo"M  mv-ll~~ 
tocrn(h  a fpreading  evil  even  in  the  be?in>un<>'f 
before  it  gather  head,  ,ind  become  i-cur.-.bic0- 
Onthisconfideranonl  applyed  my  fclfc  to  the  pre/c;Kbui 
ncflejandfo  apply ed  my  felfc  unto  ir,that  it  mi-he  come  unro 
your  view  with  all  fpccd  convenient,  before  tl-at  any  contrary 
perfvvafion,  by  what  great  name  foevcr  countenanced  fhould 
take  too  deep  a  root  in  any  ofyoti,  to  be  thcce  eafily  removed. 
In  the  beginning  of  Afnrch  lafr,  there  peered  into  the  wc-rid 
abooke entituled  The hol} Talte,  N<i»,f  andTkir.^  faid  to  be 
Written  /*/»f^f  by  a  ^/»i/?^  ,„  LincchpArc,  n,  Ilt.fu-fr  to 
£>  Coale,  4j*£ct*tu  Divive  cf  f)ueeKe  Maries  d       .  Mld 
ptntedfrrtbeDmefe  of  Lincoln^.  1637.  Sothat  bcmi;  writ- 
lcnbyaMinifterinI,/««/».jS/^,  andpiinted  fonhe  Diuccfc 
olLuicotoi  who  would  conceive  but  that  it  was  intended  for 
the  private  ufe  of  you,  the  Clergie  of  thofc  parts,  and  not  to 
hmbeencica«ercd;asic  was,ovcrall  the  Kiagdume :  Hut 

being 


• 

The  Preface. 

being  Co  fairc  a  Babc,*nd  borne  in  fucha  lacky  tidure  it  w5uH 

crve  his  lurnc  the  better,  to  procure  the  viflory    A  ftran^ 
and  cruell  kmdc  1' 


£;  Plutarch  i»  as  tothe  living;  with  both  of  which  he  dealcs,  as  did'/V/ 
I  *  </e.  CTiiftes  with  his  canrive*    tfV-^,»,'«,  -,?->.     ~.    .  '  ~  . 


ted."  that  the  bookeie 


av.  - 

DC!  n  n  ^        !f  !lthc  Icadl"^  tale'&  ^'^»  «  front  of  pur- 
poc  to  make  good  the  entrance;  fo  doth  it  give  a  good  cflay  . 

t^cS^^£"7&  ^ich  vvcarelilc  to  finl 

dreflt  '       TJ  hu  c^.eto«d  ofthehoufc  by  the  trimmeor 

IdinkC  U          ichly  furnifhcd^  The  wals  there- 
ec  OM  with  Antl^e  Han&ingsj 


7%e  Preface. 

and  whatsoever  coftly  workmanfhip  all  Nations  of  thefe 
times  may  bee  thought  to  bragge  of  ;  and  every  part  adorned 
with  flourilhcs,  and  pretty  pattimcs,  and  gay  devices  of  the 
Painter  :  Nor  is  there  any  want  at  all  of  Ornaments  or  Vterfls 
to  fet  out  the  fame;fuch  cfpecially  as  may  fcrvc  for  oftemation, 
though  of  Httlc  ufejmany  a  fine  and  fubtile  Carper,  not  a  few 
idle  Couches  for  the  credulous  reader,  and  every  where  a  Pil 
low  for  a  Puritaus  Elbow  ;  all  very  plcafing  to  the  eye,  bat 
flightoffubftancej  counterfeit  fluffs'  moft  or  it,  and  wrought 
with  fbmnch  fraud,  and  falQiood,  that  there  is  hardly  one 
trueftitch  in  all  the  Worke  :  From  the  beginning  to  the  end, 
our  Mwfler  is  ftill  the  fame,  no  Changeling  : 

d  -  Servtturtd  im*m,  GO  Hor.  dc 

<$*alis  al>  incorpt  '  Arcc< 


And  yet  if  all  thefe  fiffraudes  (for  fo  they  mud  be  thought 
info  grave  a  Aiinifter)  didaime  at  nothing  elfe,  than  to  ad 
vance  the  reputation  cf  his  lioljT^yu  \  the  anfwcring  of  his 
work  had  been  more  proper  for  another  Advctfary.  The  holy 
T^blt  hith  no  enemies  in  the  Church  of  England  ;  and  there 
fore  he  is  faine  to  flic  to/?  omty\.o  finde  out  tome  that  are  */&*• 
medofthftmmetfthe  Lords  Tdle.  Butfoitis.that  under  tH 
pretence  of  fetting  up  his  holy  Table,  this  Miniftcr  hath  difper- 
fcd  throughout  hisbooke,  iuch  principles  of  faftion,  fchifnte, 
and  diftbedience  ,  that  even  that  Table  alfo  is  made  Afnare  to 
thofc,who,cither  out  of  weaknefle,  or  too  great  a  ftomack,do 
greedily  devoure  what  ever  is  there  fet  before  them.  So  vene- 
BKIUS  a  difcourfc  requires  an  Antidote  ,  a  timely  and  a  prefent 
Antidote,  before  the  malignity  of  the  poyfon  be  diffufed  too 
far;  and  therefore  I  thought  fit  to  provide  one  rcady,and  to  in- 
fcribc  it  unto  you,the  learned  and  religious  Clergic  of  thc/^w- 
ttft  of  Line,  for  whom,  and  for  whole  ufe  alone,  that  worthy 
work  of  his,whofoever  he  be,muft  be  pretended  to  be  printed. 
Yetfo,  that  any  others  may  be  made  partakers  of  it,  whofc 
judgment  &  affections  have  been,  or  are  diflcpered  by  fo  lewd 
a  praftifer;  who  cares  not  if  the  Church  were  in  a  combuftion, 

fo 




The  Preface. 


fo  he  :  may  warme  his  hands  by  the  flame  thereof.  The  Author 
wha  hc»,  »  notyecd  fcoyeredj  all  that  is  open  y  rcveffi 

* 


n 

ca!ls  him- 


-  -       e 

belecve  the  1  itle-pagc,  was  writ  long  agoe,  in 

?      u    *•  ';W(Ww*  filww  "/^«^  Maries  ^y«  -  buc 


thcr  oft,  than  now  ,  religion  nevermore  a,  he 
better  telcd  * 


both  :  So  that  the  fupp.fition    f  a  bcoke    r  ° 


This  faaions  figment  thus  re/efled.all  that  is  leftus  to  find 

out  hu  Author  nn,ft  be  colleftc  J  by  the  ftyle  and  argament, 

hough  that  pcrhpp,  will  givtasbui  a  blind  dilcoven  'The 

•rgu.nent.botli  in  the  maine.and  on  the  by,  fliewes  that  hee  is 

v  **  old  *a^*p?£*R*5* 

<^flw«inKingft«w/histimc(  in  cafehes 

be 


The  Preface. 

be  not  forhe  remainder  of  that  fcattercd  company;  which  hi 
therto  hath  hid  his  head,  and  now  thrndsout  with  Bajlwick^t 
PrinHt,  and  Barton,  to  difturbe  the  State,  The  (tile  compofcd 
indifferently  of  Mtrtin  <JttArre-Prel*te,  and  Tom  Nfifi  :  as^ 
fcurn'lous  and  full  of  folly,  as  the  one ;  as  (candalous  and  rail  of 
faction,  as  the  other  was,  Which,  howfoevcr  it  mayplcafe 
young  heads,  and  fuch  as  are  affected,  as  the  Writer  is ;  yet  it 
gives  jud  offence. to  the  grave  and  learned,  who  would  have 
ierious  matters  handled  in  a  ferious  manner.  They  that  can 
finde  him  cutby  either  of  thefe  Cktratttrt,  mud  have  more 
knowledge  of  the  Dioceflc,  than  1  dare  pretend  to;  who  am 
pronounced  before-  hand,  and  by  way  of  challcngc,tobc  none 
of  the  Voifin*gefto&  confecjucmly  no  fit  man  to  be  returned  of 
the  Incjuefl.  Oncly  J  have  made  bold  our  of  my  care  and  zealc 
to  the  common  good,  to  give  ytuthis  fliort  notice  of  him  ; 
that  if  by  chance  youfhould  encounter  with  him  any  where 
in  his  private  walkes,  you  may  take  heed  led  hec  fcciucc  you 
by  his  practifes ;  and  in  the  meane  time  be  foi  warned,  left  he 
mifguide  you  by  his  writings,  For  comming  in  the  habit  of  a 
neighbour  Miwfler^  efpccially  being  recommended  to  you,for 
one  fo  Orthodox  in  dotlrine,  Ani  (onfonant  in  difcipline  tt  the 
Church  of  England ;  you  might  perchance  be  ap:  ro  give  cre 
dit  to  him, and  lend  too  credulous  an  care  to  his  flic  temptati 
ons.  Therefore  to  favc  that  title  which  the  Church  hath  in 
you,  and  to  preferve  that  intcred  which  it  claimcs  in  your  bed 
affections  •  I  have  adventured  to  put  in  thi.  Caveat,  in  tl  e 
Churches  name;  which  if  you  (hruld  neglect,  as  1  lope  you 
will  not,  I  mud  bee  forced  in  maintenance  of  her  tight  and in- 
tered,  to  bring  my  double  quarre/l.  Doolies  of  a  popular  argu 
ment,  and  followed  in  a  popular  way,  are  commonly  much 
chcriflVedby  that  race  of  men,  who  love  totunnccr;  (Tctoall 
publicke  order.  And  therefore  irconccrnes.  all  Chorclnnen, 
and  you  cfpecially  of  that  Dtocefe ,  for  whic!)  thut  worthy 
Worke  was  Printed,to  have  a  wife  and  timely  c.arc;thu:  thole 
which  are  committed  to  your  feveral!  charges,  bee  rightly  Lai- 
lanced ;  and  not  inveigled  and  abufed  by  the  neat  lulxlttics  of 
thofe,  who  onely  labour  to  deceive  them* 

And 


(f)ViJcScft. 


Tk  frtfitce. 

And  it  conccrnes  us  all,  the  rather,  bccaufe  thofefa&icnt 

andfchifrrmicall  Pamphlets,  that  came  out  with,and  fincc  the 
good  Minijttrs  Booke,  feeme  to  indeavour  nothing,  more, 
than  ro  pott'clfe  mens  mindcs,  as  before  I  faid,  with  dangerous 
and  defpcrate,  thouglMnoft  ncedleflc  feares,that  all  things  goe 
not  right  amongft  QJ.  The  placing  of  the  holy  Table  inthat 
comly  forr.as  is  moft  covenant  to  the  praclife  of  the  Primitive 
times,  and  to  thagcncrall  ufagcofall  fahcdfati  iu  this  King. 
dom,andhis  Ma  Jellies  CLippetsyg\vtn  out  by  folfc  and  factious 
men  ;  oncly  to  bee  a  preamble  to  a  greater  change.  And  ho  w- 
foever  initfelfe  it  bee  a  matter  of  indifferent  nature,  andfo 
acknowledged  to  bee  both  by  the  ^//*»/?<rrhimfelfc,  good 
man,and  by  the  writer  of  the  letter  to  the  Vicar  <&GrA*thAm'y 
and  that  the  Table  be  fo  placed  in  his  Lordfhips  Chapptll,  (by 
\vhom  the  Minilhrs  booke  was  allowed  and  licenced  )  as  is 
'  cllc  where  laid ;  this  comes  all  to  one;  For  place  them  how 
they  will  in  Cttkedrall  Churches,  his  Majeuics  and  tl^e  Hi- 
fKops  Cbappe!/,  and  bee  the  matter  fo  inditferent,  as  no  one 
thing  more ;  yet  take  we  heed  we  doe  not  phce  them  Altar- 
wife  in  P*m7.>/W/€hurchcs.Rarhcr  tlian  foypaore  people  muft 
bee  frighted  with  wee  know  not  what,  and  cold  that-tkerc  is 
Ibmcwhat  in  it  which  is  worth  their  fcarcs;  fotne thing thac 
mainly  tends  unto  the  alteration  cf  religion,  -hereby  law  e(ta- 
blifhed.  As  if  the  Table  could  not  ftand  whcrethe  AltAr  did, 
or  be  placed  tsf/t*ir-wife  all  along  the  wall ;  but  it  muft  needs 
imply  feme  Popffi  and  prohibited  fncrificc,  to  be  intended  for 
the  fame,  though  not  yet  ready  to  be  6ftered.  In  which  moft 
falfcand  fcandalous  imputations,  as  all  the  Pamphlets  of  thcfc 
times  arc  extremely  guilty  ;  fo  there  is  none  more  pofitivc  in 
it,  than  this  Mi*ifter  cf  Lincolne  Diocese.  "  Thefe  new  Refor- 
'  #>ers  (  I  delire  you  to  (-bferve  his  words )  though  they  pre- 
'  pare  and  lay  grounds  for  the  fame,  dare  not  (  for  feare  of  fo 
'  many  lawes  and  Canons)  apparently  profefre this £/!?*/»»/*» 
'  doctrine.  They  arc  as  yet  bulled  in  taking  in  the  out-  works, 
1  and  that  being  done,  they  may  in  time  have  a  bout  with  the 
"  Fort  it  fclfe.  A  fpeech  of  that  fchifmaticall,  fadious,  and 
fcditious  nature,  that  greater  of  thai  kinde  was  never  uttered 

by 


by  S^fwekft  £*J*o»,  Burton,  Prynrt,  ortrry  peftilentPAfqriill 
of  the  prefcnt,  w^  </*w  in  any  of  the  former  times,  And  though 
you  may  con/c&ure  ex  prdt  Htrctf/a»r  what  you  are  like  to 
find*  by  this,  in  the  whole  bulke  of  thcdifcourfc :  yet  for  your 
better  fatisfa&ion,  I  will  lay  before  you,  as  byway  of  Parallel, 
the  harmony  or  agreement  which  is  betwceue  him  in  his 
bolj  7*<*£/*,and  H. Burton  in  his  late  fcciitious  Sermons  and  A- 
po/opy.  Not  in  the  language  onely,  which  is  in  both  folike.and 
fo  full  of  clamour,  as  if  they  had  but  one  pen  betwecne  them, 
but  in  their  fa^iousandfchifmaticall  pofhion*,  in  which  they 
doc  agree  fofwectly.  Which  done,  it  frail  bee  left  to  you  to 
confide:  of  it,  whether  it  may  bccpoflGble  that  they  fhotild 
jump  fo  even,  ialo  many  paflages,  by  mcerc  infpirarion,  and 
the  cnthufiafinc  ofthe  fame  ill  fpirit,  or  that  they  rather  fell 
uporTit,  (as.  /*£/*>•/ fomctimcs  doe  their  tricks  )  by  combina 
tion  and  confederacy. 

ThfLAtinifltr  if  Lincoln.        Mr.  BttrtM  »f  L*ndo*. 

THefc  Ntvt  Reforaurs, 
though  they  prepare  and 
lay  grounds  for  ihe  fame,  dare 
notffor  fcarc  of  fo  many  laws 
and  Canons )  apparently  pro- 
fefle  this  E/tntfiaLtn  dtttrine. 
They  are  as  yet  buficd  in  ukc- 
ing  in  the  out-workcs ,  and 
that  being  done,  they  may  in 
time  have  a  bout  with  the 


THey  mud  firft 
with  Tables, and  up  with 
Altars t  &c.  F  nd  what  then  I 
Surely  a  Prirft  is  nor  farre  oft. 
Hut  where  is  the  f«c nfce  ? 
Stay  a  while ;  true  fervicc 
comes  lift,  and  all  thcl'c  are 
preparations  unto  it.  S°  a*  a'-l 
thcfe  Preambles  d.>e  at  lafi 
u/her  in  the  great  God  of  the 
hoft,  fo  foone  as  it  i?  well  bi- 
ked;and  the  pccples  ftomatk* 
fitted  to  digcft  fo  hard  a  bi:. 


1  appetle  to  any  indifferent  Well,  yet  a  railc  muft  bee 
men,  that  pretend  to  any  made  about  it»toinftnuate  in- 
knowledge  in  Pivinity;  if tbi  topcopltsmindcsan  opiniott 


•  TbeTreftce. 

ef  Lincoln.        Mr.  Burton  of  London. 


Pew,  the  Pulpit,  or 
any  other  place  in  the  Churchj 
be  nor  as  properly  an  Ahar,as 
is  our  holy  Table,  howfoever 


A  number  of  our  Churches 
have  their  lies  of  fuch  a  per 
fect  Croflc,  that  they  cannot 
poflibly  fee  either  high  Alt*nt 
or  fo  much  as  the  Chanccll.  p  . 
124. 


Without  which  tranfoo- 
ftng  of  cht  Tablc,thc  Miniitcr, 
were  he  that  Stentor  with  the 
fides  of  braflc,could  never  bee 
heard  of  his  congregation.^. 
304. 


of  fome  cxcr aor^'naty  fan&i- 
tie  in  the  T*6/e,  more  than  in 
other  places  of  the  Church,  as 
the  PH/pittPeyptoT  Font  .p.  33. 

When  they  mwft  ufe  no 
prayer  at  all  after  the  Sermon, 
but  come  downe,  and  rcadc  a 
fecond  or ihird  Service  atthe 
Alt*ry  wherein  great  Chur 
ches  halfe  the  people  cannot 
he  arc  a  word./w/.i  yo. 

Reading  a  fecond  Service  at 
the  Altar,whcrccvciunle(ler 
Chtucheb",  the  people  cannot 
poffibly  heare  without  a  Stcn- 
toriotts  voice  of  the  Minifter. 
In  the  Epiftlo  to  the-King^ 


Our  Communion  fliall  bee 
at  the  fooneft  our  fourth,  and 
by  no  me.ines  our 


It  fecmcs  by  you,  wee  arc 
bound  oncly  topr^y,  but  not 
to  fpcakc  the  words  of  the  Ca. 


And    readc  a  feeond,  or 
third  Service  at  the  Alt*r.f<tg. 


When  they  forbid  Mini- 
ftcrs  to  ufe  any  fryer  before 
their  Sermons  ,  but  the  bare 
and  barren  forme  of  words  in 


<Bod  is  afwell  God  of  the 
Wett,North,and  South^s  hce; 


Pr.iying  with  their  faces  tq% 
wards  the  Ea(i,;  thus  'tying' 


igofthe  Eaft  :  and  it  is 
*»//&  to  make  him  more  propi 
tious  in  anyone  corner  of  the 
world,  thanhee  is  in  another. 


The  Preface: 
of  Lincoln.        Mr.  Button  of  London. 

Godtoafixcdplacc.fwg-.up. 


Whereas  $./>*»/  reckoneth 
up  a  long  Catalogue  of  graces, 
to  be  l>/ameteflc,  vigilant,  fo~ 
ber,  ntodeflt  Ittrnctt,  hoftitall, 
and  I  know  not  what:  the 
man  is  content  the  Puritans 
take  all  thefe  for  themfelves, 


Me  might  alfomarkefome 
fpeciall  differences  which  our 
Canons  themfelvcs  doc  make 
betweene  CatbatrAts  and  Pn- 
rockiall  Churches  ;  and  parti 
cularly  in  an  obfervation  con 
cerning  the  point  in  hand./>^. 
182,183. 

I  hope  it  will  be  no  offence, 
if  I  ptacfce  out  this  Cumane 
crcature,(who  like  a  fawning 
Sycophant,  thinkcs  to  take 
fanftuary  in  that  holy  ground) 
from  the  fhadow  and  fitlttr 
of  tiftRojall  Chapp  ell.  ^.35. 

Every  Parifh  Church  is  not 
bound  to  imitate  jq  all  out- 


The  good  Minifters  of  the 
Land  (  i.  f.  the  Turban  Mini- 
(lers^arethe  Kings  inoft  loy- 
all,  loving,  dutiful!,  faithful!, 
obedient,  and  peaceable  fab- 


But  let  us  examine  a  little 
what  force  there  is  in  this  Ar 
gument:  Cathedrals  are  fo  and 
(o :  therefore  all  other  Chur 
ches  muft  conformc  to  them. 
I  deny  the  Argument. I.tgbm 
•v'wendnm  tftt  non  extmplt*. p. 
160. 

In  the  laft  place  being  pul 
led  away  from  the  homes  of 
their  Cathcdrall  Altars^  not 
able  iofieltcr  themfelvcs  from 
their  purfucrs  ••  they  flye  as  to 
their  lad  refuge,  and  moll  im 
pregnable  fort,  to  the  Kings 
Cktippftt.pag.i6j. 

Why  ftiould  fub/cfts  think 
to  compare  with  the  King,  in 
B 


The  Preface. 

tf  Lincoln,          Mf .  Burton ofLot 

ward  circumftances,  the  pat-  the  fate  of  his  Roydl family 
ttrre  and  furme,*nd  outward  or  Ch^ppetl;  there  being  many 
cmbcllifhmcnt  and  adorning  things  in  the  Kings  Chappell, 
of  the  Rojrtfl  Ctmppgfl.p.ty  which  were  prdumption  to 

have  in  ordinary   Churches, 


It  is  not  therefore  his  Ma  je 
tties  Chappcll,  but  his  Lawes, 
Canons  .Rubric^*,  and  Procla 
mations,  which  we  arc  to  fol 
low  in  thefe  outward  Cere 
monies./*^. 

This  Table,  without  fomc 
new  Canon,  is  not  to  {land 
is^/tar.-H'ife,  and  you  at  the 
North-end  thereof;  but  7"<i- 
ble+rife)  and  you  muft  otrici- 
atc  at  the  N.>rth-fi<Jc  ct  the 
func,  by  the  Liturgle.p. :  o. 

Doflorcs  Ifgevdi  fnnt  cum 
i"nt.i.  Tli«,  Doflors  uuiftbec 
pardoned  if  they  fotnctiincs 
flip  in  their  ex 


The  worfhip  and  fervice 
of  God  and  of  Chi  ift.ii  not  to 
bee  regulated  by  humane  ex 
amples,  but  by  thedivine  rule 
of  the  Scriptures./'.  165. 


The  external!  rites  and  Ce 
remonies  in  the  Church,  are 
limited  by  Aft  of  ParliameKt 
prefixed  to  the  Communion 
boo!,e,and  no  more  to  be  ad 
ded  or  ufed  in  Churches,  pig. 
ip<5. 

Their  works  arc  not  with- 
o'.it  their  r.evi  or  fpots,  ib  as 
they  that  re.ide  them  muft 
m,trgarit.it  e  CCCHO  Icgcrc,  ga- 
thcr  pcarles  cut  of  the  mud. 


I  flr.'uld  therefore  rcafon- 
ably  prclume,  that  this  good 

Workc  in  hand  is  but  a  fecund 
part  of  SAntla.  CUr*,  nnd  a 


The  I'or  ke  ofFwcifcw  S. 
C7.<>vt,wlikhh.ith  beene  now 
thrice  printed,  and  thit  in 
London  as  they  (ay,  and  is 


frothy  fpcculation  of  fomc    much  applauded  by  our  Inno- 


Tkc  Preface? 

tjltinifltr  of  Lincoln,        Mf .  Burl  in  of  London, 


/  nd  fo  the  Bifliop  of  N«r. 
»ich  muft  bee  ever  fending 
forth  letters  of  perfecution : 
becaufc  hhn  Fox  obferveth, 
that  one  of  them  did  fo./>.pS. 


So  hot  is  the  perfection  a- 
painft  Gods  faithfull  Mini- 
fters  &:  people  in  thnfc  Coun 
ties  of  AV/o/^ancl.^/o/^, 
&c.^,/jr.i  j.  that  in  all  Qj_iocrc 
Maws  time  thcie  was  net  fo 
great  havocke  made  of  the 
faithfull  Miniftcrs  of  Gcd,&c. 


S.  Cyprian  aggravates  the 
offence  ofthefcTeftators,that 
by  making  Church-men  ex 
ecutors  and  over-feers  of  their 
laft  wills,  Ab  altttri  ftcerds- 
test  &  miniftrot  volunt  AVOCA- 
re,  will  needes  withdraw  mi 
ni  fters  from  their  Ecclejiajli- 
call  /#»#i'0«,with  no  lefle  of 
fence,  than  if  under  the  Law 
they  had  with-drawne  the 
Priefts  from  the  holy  Altar. 


When  Clergy  men  dare  in 
affront  to  Gods  Woid,  to 
Chrifts  doctrine  and  exam- 
plc.&c.  ufurpe  and  take  upon 
them  to  meddle  in  the  mana 
ging  even  of  the  hightft  and 
wcightieft  affaires  of  Princes, 
States,  and  temporall  king- 
domes,  which  is  incompati 
ble  with  the  AUniftcriall  /««- 
Epiftle  to  the  Nobility. 


If  the  Ordinaries  now  com 
mand  where  there  is  no  law 
or  former  Ctntn  in  force,  it 
layeth  a  grievance  on  the  fub- 
jeft,as  a  thing  »»;«/?,  and  con- 
fequcntly  of  a  nature  where- 
unco  obedience  is  no  way 


And  herein  wee  have  caufc 
to  b'cflc  the  name  of  Gud, 
who  hath  railed  up  many  zca- 
•loas  and  couragious  Champi 
ons  of  his  truth,  I  mean  faith- 
fu'l  Minifters  of  his  word, 
who  choofe  rather  to  lofe  all 
.they  have,  thanlubmitthcm- 
felves  to  their  «*»;»/?  an 
commands./'^.  83. 
B  2 


"""  "*   "  i  '      ^=jn  -  >W  --  f      '    "  — 

TKTfreface. 

O  tiwjlcr  of  Lincoln.          Nerves  from  Ipfwich. 

This  fellow  jumbles  againc  Little  Pope  Regultts  play. 

the  King  and  the  Bifliop,  M«-  eth  fuch  Rex  in  Norrvtch  Dio- 

!jnjm  Regent  cum  Kegnto,  like  cede.  And  in  the  margine.  Ic 

a  ii'ren  mounted  upon  the  tea-  fipnificth  both  a  linlc  King*  a 

t  hers  of  an  Eagle./*.?  i.       , 


Sofarrc  the  Parallel  holds  betwecne  them  in  their  words 
and  writings.  And  I  pray  God  there  bee  not  a  more  unfccne 
Parallel  at  lead  in  their  ends  and  aimcs,  between  this  Lincoln- 
fhire  AttnifterfxA  Prinne,  and  Sajlmeket  as  \vcll  as  betwecne 
him  and  Burton. 

What  thinkc  you  now  ofthisconfcnt  and  harmony  bc- 

twccne  the  Altniftcr  o^Lincoln  Diocejf'c,  and  H.  £.  of  London  ? 

'i  hinke  you  not  that  they  hold  intelligence  with  one  another, 

and  by  their  weekly  packets  give  and  receive  advcrtifemcnts, 

both  what  they  tncanc  to  write  of,  and  how  to  follow  it  ? 

Ccrtair.ely  this  mull  needs  bee  done  by  mutuall  correfpon- 

dcnccand  combinarion  ;  at  lead  nsn  fine  Kumine  div  /'•«»,  not 

without  ipeciall  influence  of  the  fame  illfpirit.  Yetl  mull  tell 

you  by  rhe  way,  that  of  the  two  the  AUnijler  of  Lincoln  is  the 

molt  advcntrous:  whobefidesall  thatliercisiaid,  hath  a  long 

ft  tidied  c)i<b):n-(c  iiunair.tcnanccot  fitting  at  the  holy  Sacra- 

incur,  v.liichgivjd  Mi>{ler  Burton  never  winched  ar.  Bur  now 

upon  the  (fating  of  thcqucftionby  this  man  of  Itncolnfinre, 

f^mcofthc  lurcrli'jclls  (  of  which  wee  have  had  many  fince 

the  Mlniflers  Iv.vikc  )  have  brought  in  that  too  ;  and  made  ic 

one  of  the  difpati  ties  or  ^//vm/^/r/jbetweeneour  Saviour  and 

the  PrcUrcs.  And  yet  the  brethren  may  doe  well.not  to  give 

too  ir.uch  credence  to  him.  For  howfoever  hec  hath  drained 

fo  much  ro  g.ii;v:  their  favour;and  let  them  out  with  a  long  Ca- 

{.ilow;  of  fr<icc.<,  as  vfoi/anttfo&ert  bla9teleffct  mode  ft,  lear 

ned.  t)ofyits.lly  and  /  kyotv  not  vrhttt.p.  i  ^  i  .  Yet  at  an  Jthcr  time, 

lice  flings  them  rff,asifthcy  had  no  reference  to  him.   Tor  if 

they  will  cxprc(Tc  no  reverence  c.t  their  approach  unto  the  holy 

T".l-ht  as  you  know  they  will  not  ;  taty  ^rwDunatus/cr  £*«/, 

they 


TTxfrefaci. 

they  fliall  be  *W*r  vritte*  in  bis  Ctlendtrftr  tbekit&t*  »ftk& 
C&*rr&,pag.$i9,ioc.  Or  if  they  dcediflike  the  callings  of  the 
Reverend  Ordinaries  of  this  land ,  as  you  know  they  doc : 
*'  He  wiftieth  them  preftntly  \vitli  M-Ceitca'm  the  »/n>,asun. 
"worthy  ofthat  moll  happy  government,  which  (bythera- 
"  vonr  ot  God  and  the  King;all  the  I.aity  and  Clcrgie  do  herd 
"enjoy  in  the  */^£*£/W,  pag.  64.  65.  And  thus  hecdeales 
with  £d/vi»  alfo,  whom  he  endcavoureth  to  favelurmkilc 
all  he  can,  frcm  having  any  band  in  changing  the  Ea^lfe  Li- 
turgte  :  yet  faith,  he  was  a  Pefyfragmon,  pig.  1 44  a  man /"••*.-;- 
ntAticaliy  z.calotttt  pag.i<}5.  And  rbushsrc  feeds  them,  as  you 
fee,with  a  bit  and  a  knock,  *ltc ra  mnnu pifccm  oflendcns,  dura 
Itfidcm:  and  will  be  lure  to  keep  them  under,  how  much  fo 
ever  he  advance  them. 

But  Ole  (jtiidAcl  te  ?  What  makes  all  this  to  me.may  this  All- 
mfttr  lay, who  am  nor  named  nor  glanced  a:  it)  his  bcly  Tttble  ; 
oratleailnamcdnootherwifc,  than  aiaongft  diofe  Authors, 
which  were  feledcd  purpofcly  toadcrr.ehis  Margin?  It  is 
true,  the  Afinlftert  as  if  he  knew  not  whom  to  pitch  on  for  the 
Coal  front  the  Altar^  laycs  about  him  blindefold  :  and  like  the 
(°)  ntuvktj  boy\\t  fpcaks  of,  he  flings  his  ftoncs  abroad  where 
he  fees  rnoft  company ;  not  caring  whom  hee  hit,  fo  he  hit  at 
fomebody.  Yet  generally  the  needle  of  his  compafle  points 
unto  the  North,  and  he  drives  much  ac  one  or  other,  that  was 
not  of  the  f0</wrf|V,  but  an  inhabitant  cj 'A  remote  and.  another 
province ,p. ^ .  whoufed  to  travaUt  Grf.nth.im  RoActe^.ji.  and 
was  *  friend  anto  the  Vicar,  p.  1 10.  John  Coaly  as  he  is  called  by 
name,  png.  88.  Nriv.ctjtlc  Cody  as  from  the  place  and  parts 
of  his  habitaticn,pag.  1 1 4.  A  man  vphcfe  learning  lay  in  unlear 
ned  Liturgies,  pag.  85.  and  ufed  to  cr*ck^  of  fomewhac  unto  his 
JY*Wf«,pag.  1 1 1 .  but  to  btpittyed  for  all  that,  in  being  marri- 
tdto  ^  Tviddow^  pag.  1 63.  Who  the  man  aimes  at  in  thclc  cafts, 
is  not  here  considerable.  It  is  poflible  he  aimes  at  no  body,  but  unto  his  Acti. 
at  have  amongst  you.  However,  all  this  while,  th.it  I  may  dwcjt  ce/t'd 
keep  my  fclfc  unto  my  Accidence,as  I  advifed.fpj  Petrtts  dor.  K0t  fae fa-got- 
w/V^r^andmayfleepefafelyif  he  will;  for  none  of  all 
thefeby-blowesdoe  reflccl;  on  him.  Done  with  much  cin- 

B  3  ning 


ThVrtfaci. 

aiig  T  tfliire  you,  but  with  ill  foccefle.  "For  now  he  leaft  of  all 
expects  it, I  muft  draw  the  Curtaine,  and  let  him  fee  his  Ad- 
irgil,  vcrfary,  though  he  hide  himlelfe.  (1)  Me^»f,adfHnt^Mifccly 
in  the  Pocrs  words. I  amthctmnthac  ncvcryetiaw  Grnntham 
Sttrple  ;  though  fo;  the  Churches  Jake  I  undertook  rhc  Patro 
nage  of  the  poorcdeadriw.  The  letter  tothe  fj'r«r  being 
nvich  'btr'Ji:  afcer,and  by  iome  ifaflious  \\i\\fafyretdtbroAd)  of 
fH^foje  to  binder  that  good  tvor^f  of  uniformity  which  u  now  in 
buil,  did  rirltoccaiionmec  to  write  that  anlwer  to  ir,  which 
pallcth  by  the  name  of  A  Co*' from  the  sl/tttr.Nw  a  nccc/Hry 
is  lai^upon  me  to  defend  my  fdr.and  with  my  fclf  thatanfwcr 
alto, from  theinoit  inlolcnt,  though  wcakc  artaults  or  this  in- 
ccitainc  certatneCi>V/»(/?rr  ofthe  Diooeffe  of  Lincoln ;  who 
co.nts  into  ihc  fiold  with  no  other  weapons, rhan  tnfol«ncetijr* 
ttor.inet  anAfa/fcboed,  in  my  dcTeiKe  where* <fja  -.d  all  my  refe 
rence*  thereunto,  I  am  to  give  yon  notice  lietc,  that  whereas 
there  were  two  Edititns  of  ir,  one  prefenrly  upon  the  other  • 
I  relate  onely  in  this  Antidote  to  the  fit  ft  Edition;  bccaufe  the 
Afimftfr  takes  no  not  ice  buc  of  that  alone. 

The  method  which  I  tife  in  this  Anitdttum ,  fhall  be  flic  wn 
you  nexr,  that  you  may  know  the  better  what  you  arc  to  lock 
for.  The  whole  dilcourie  I  have  divided  into  three  Sections. 
Into  the  firlt  wherof  I  have  reduced  the  point  in  controvcrfic, 
as  it  relates  tous  or'thc  Church  or  f«^//«W.-  following  the/M- 
nfterzi.  the  heeles  in  his  three  firlt  Chapters,  touching  the 
Ji*te  of  the  quel\ion,the  /v^<t//2nd  Epifcoptll  power  in  matter 
of  Ceremony  und  in  the  rounh  bringing  nnto  the  tcftvall  that 
he  ha:h  related  in  Icverall  pl.-ces  of  his  book,  touching  the  ta 
king  downc  of  Altars,  and  alteration  of  the  Liturgie  in  Xing 
Edwards  time.  The  fecond  Seclion  comprehends  the  tendrics 
of  the  Primitivg  Church,  concerning  Sacrifices y  Priefti,  and 
Alters ;  together  with  their  gencrall  ufagc  in  pldcing  ofthe 
Alturm  holy  7^7^/^and  thatcontaines  fourc  Chapters  alfo.In 
which  we  haven.)t  oncly  aflured  our  caufe.both  by  the  fudge- 
incnt  and  the  uiage  or'thc  purclt  Ages  •.  but  anfwcred  all  thofc 
Argumcnrs(or  Cavils  lather)  which  by  the  Miniftcr  have  l?ccn^ 
fludicd  to  oppoie  the  fame,  The  third  and  lait  cxliibites  to 

you 


vTrejai 

you  thofe  Extrtvqncin.  and  r*pr*u  which  every  where 
appeare  in  the  Mimjttn  booke  j  and  arc  not  any  way  reducible 
to  the  point  in  hand:  wherein  wee  havegood  (tore  ofconfi. 
dent  ignorance,  falsifications  farrc  more  qroflc,  becaufc  more 
unncceflary ,  and  not  a  Little  of  the  old  Li»co/^^^f. 

n"1i"  |Al7 >n  t'lls,Wl!c  *  havc  difpofed  it  for  your  cafe   who 
hallplearetorradcic:  that  as  you  arc  Reeled  with  it,  you 
nay  end  the  bookc  cither  at  the  firft  or  feconcl  Scclic  n  •  or  clfe 
£r*fr  tndreade  it tloorcnlj,  as  y<  Ur  ftumatk  for vcs you',  /n  all 
and  every  pare  of  the  whole  difcourle,  as  I  have  laid  downc 
"£J'"S  without  good  **thorit}t  ibhave  I  faithfully  reported 
it  » *****  wnicn  2  re  tnciclmcl  tiown  iss  one  tli^t  cunno  it 

but  have  learned  by  this  very  Mtm/ltr,  that  all  faKc  define  ;'.i 
f  '*[.  "  .  '^owcvcr'rtrjay  ferrcfor  a  prcfcnr  fluff'  ycr  iiuhe 
cno  it  bnngi  both  (liamc  to  them  that  ufc  it,and  dif advantage 
f™™**'.f»****'t*'ir*tll&itfrtvM/rtAit  the  laft  thcJi«!i 

that*  h  pprcfrcd  by  mens  fubrilc  pwfliccs.  Nor  would  I 
/*  iiiv^uiu  idrc  tnc  vvoriCj  or  iinclc  tnc  It  lie  cflcrmc 
arnongftyou;  becaufe  the  contrary  opinion  hath  been  under 
taken,  by  one  that  calls  himfelf  a  Minifier  of  Lincoln  Diocf(Te. 
You  are  now  made  the  Judges  in  the  prefent  controverfic  and 

lohf Si*  "  ^onc5r"C8  y°? ia  an  WSh  de8ree,  to  dealc  upright 
ly  m  he  coufe,without  the  leaft  rcfpefl  of  perfcns:  &  hav  in2 

Sffi?1  Pames  fp,ea> to 'Wri8h  their  Argmnenrvndthn 
gi *eftntenceas  you  finde  it.  Or  in  the  languascof  Min*ti*. 


that  you  may  ib  doe    and  then 
ou  in  £S 


PErltg  librum  buncjui  titulix  e/?[Antidotum 
Lincolnienfe,  &c.]  *»  ^«o  nibilreferie  fane 
doftrinx,  aut  bonis  mriius  contrarium.;  quo 
mlnut  cum  Militate  public  A  imprimatur. 


Ex  ^Edibus  Londin. 
Maii  die  7. 1637. 


Sa:  Baker. 


The  Contents  of  each  feverall  Sedti- 
on  and  Chapter  contained  in 

this  Tr<Mti 


SECTION  I. 


CHAP.  I. 


Of  the  flateof  the  queflion.and  the  occafion  of 
writing  tne  letter  to  the  Vicar  of  Gr 

Accufcri  head.  The  Miniftcr  of\  \  ,r  >lniK ;         / 


nofCr    rp,  ,;'  M 


CH  A  p.  IT. 


r  ,  p.       . 

OfthcRcgali  power  in  matters  l-cclcfiafticall 
and  whether  it  was  ever  cxcrcifed  in  fcclina 
the  Communion  table  in  forme  of  an  AbrD 


words, 


'  Yhe  Contents, 

•words,  And  the  Lo:  Chance/lour  Egcrtons.  The  Puritans  wort 
beholding  to  bivt  than  tht  King.  The  Minifter  cf  Line:  tnifrepor- 
teth  the  D  otters  words,  o»fly  to  plckjt  (juarrett  with  his  Majtfties 
Ch.tfpiU.  AfeconA.  o*t-fet  on  the  Ch.ippell,grounded  upon  another 
f.:lfification  ef  'the  Dofhrt  word  j.Of  mother  Chappcls.Tta  R  oy~ 
all  Chappcll  how  it  may  befAtd  to  interpret  Kubricks.  The  Mini- 
fler  of  Line:  quarrels  tvtth  Qneen  E'izabcchs  Chappell;  and  for 
thatpHrpcfef*!f>fieth  both  hisforrainc  Author  s,  and  dotneftickjfl  i- 
dences.  Not  ktfptngybtit  adoring  images,  tnquired  into  in  the  ft  ft 
jetrc  of  jQyeenc  Eliz  lb:th  That  by  the  Queens  InjHrtEltonsjOr- 
dfrs  And.  Advtrtifcmcr.ts^the  Table  w.w  to  ft  And  TV  here  the  Altar 
did.  The  idle  anfyver  of  the  Minifter  of  Lii\C:to  the  Doftors  trgtt- 
mtnt.  Altars  c^Pigeon-houfcs  nliAlikfJviththelAW.  Minirter. 
The  Miniftcr  of  LiiK'.falfe  and  faulty  argumentdrAwnfiom  the 
perufersofthcLiairgie,  the  troubles  at  Franckforc,  and  Miles 
Huggards/f/?/wi?»7.  Offt*ndin%ttttbe  North  fide  of  theTable. 
Tht  Minifler  of  Line:  froduceth  the  Pontificall  *g*tnft  himfclfe, 
His  idle  c.ivilf  with  tht  Dothr  tatuhing  the  L^tine  tranjUt'un 
of  the  Comtnon-^njerBoo^The  P(trli.iment  determined  nothing 
cancer  mn  ff  talking  down  of  Altars.  The  meaning  and  intention  of 
th.tt  Rrt/'rick;  Tht  Minillcrof  Line:  peters  vtith  hii  Majefties 
Dccl.tr  atiort  about  J.Gregories.  ^  copy  ofthe'Dccliiratitn.The 
fumme  <tndful>ftAnce  of  the  Declaration,  Regull  dcdfionj  in  parti- 
cnUr  c<if(S  t  ofrvhat  pomr  an 


CHAP.  III. 

ortheEpifcopal  authority  in  points  of  Ceremonic; 
the  piety  of  the  iKYic:s,cmd  good  work  in  hand;  and  of 
the  evidence  produced  from  the  AftsScMomimcnts. 

The  Miniftcr  oflMCiirttandajrmef  in  tht  prefent  bufinejt, 
Dtingerom  grounds  /aid  by  the  Miniftcr  of  Line:  for  over-throw* 
ing  the  Epilcopall  <wd  [\cga\\potvcr.  Hemifreportsthe  mettning 
efthe  CoHnce!loJ^\<.t,tof#tujic  his  private  fpIeen.The  Minifter 
of  Line:  overthrows  hi*  owne  former  grounds  by  nevfttperftru- 
flHrtsyrotefttth  in  .?  thing  ngait-ft  his  confcience.  Chargfth  tht 
JDottor  -with  fitch  things  <u  he  findes  not  in  him.  Denyeth  th*it  *nj 
ene  thinf  may  havt  tw  kyovonc  and  proper  namej  j  therefore  th*f 
*  '  tkt 


~™~~—~~' ————————__ 

The  Contents. 

!tbe  CemmuHifK  tdlc  m*j  not  bt  called  AM  Altar  *lft\Anctfor  tb* 
preoft  thereof  doth  fa/Jifie  his  orvnt  AHthoritiet.  Tht  Doftor  falft~ 
pfdAgaine.  about  the  Canons  of  the  jeare  1571.  The  Miniftcr 
beholding  to  fame  Arch-d:acons/*r  h:s  obfervations.  Their  cttr- 
tAlUng  of  the  Bifhops  power.™  moving  or  removing  the  Commu- 
ni'  n  table,  to  advance  their  oivne.They\siy  ofthetime'-,'"^^ 
good  workc/»  hand^  declared  and  defended  aggtnft  the  impicfM 
And  profane  denfton  cf  the  Miniftcr  of  Line.  The  tfflimontc)  of 
Fryrh,  «nd  lambert,  tx^en  out  of  the  Acts  and  Moimments, 
cleared  from  the  cavils  eftbf  Miniller  of  Line.  The  Minifter  of 
Line:  cuts  off  the  words  p/f.amhcrc,  Fox,  Philpot,  «nd  Bifiop 
Larimer,  audfc.lfifuthmoft  foultlj  the  A(5ts  and  Monuincms : 
Corrects  the  Statute  And  the  Writ  /itortt  the  S-icratncnC  of  the 
Altar:  Pleads  poorely  for  the  Btflop  of  l.incobe  and  Dcane  of 
Wcftminfter,*»  the  matter  0/Oyfltcr-  board-;  «r«^Drcfler$:  and 
fills  impertinently  fonle  on  the  Htfiop  of  Norwich. 

ClIAl>.    IV. 

Of  taking  down  Altars'm  K.£W»v.timc';altcring  the 
Liturgic  fir  ft  made;  and  of  the  teftimonics  given  unto 
it,bythc  King  and  Parliament. 

The  Dottorle/tves  the  MimTter "/  Lincoln?  Method,  for  this 
ChAptcrJt  l^eepflofeto  England.  Altars  not  generally  taken  down 
in  tbt  +of  K.  Ed  w.5.  The  MinifK-r  of  I  \\K-.falf; feth  the  Bifioft 
letter  to  the  Vicar;AndpAlteri  with  a  pifage  tn  the  Ads  &  MOM. 
to  make  them  ftrve  hU  turne  about  the  tA^ing  dotvne  of  A  Itars.  A 
moftnttoriottt  piece  of  \\on-fanfainthe  ncn>  Edition  of  the  letter. 
The  Altars  in  the  Chnrchof£ngland,  beaten  dovtn  in  Germany. 
Altars  not  beaten  down  dc  fafio,  L-J  (he  common  people,  l>nt  taken 
doivne  by  order,  And  in  fare  procecdtn*  Alalt(n  cff.iff  m.y  be 
Made  doElrinallfomtttmcs,  and  on  feme  occafions.  The  Order  of 
the  King  but  a  kinde  of  la\vr.  The  Miniftcr  o'  Lir.c:  /«;^-f  great  • 
fains  to  free  Calvin,  from  having  any  handin  filtering  the  Litur- 
gic.  Land-mart^  and  bounds  laid  down,  for  the  right  mderjland. 
ing  oftheflorj  Calvin  exrepts  again  ft  the  Lilttr;ie,pr,itl.c<:th 
with  the  D.o/Somcrfcr,  both  when  he  TT.Z;  Proteftor<and after. 
Hit  correfpondence  here  with  B?  Hooper,  Andiilafiettitttto  the 
•feremeniestheubj  Law  ejlabhficd,  The  plot  for  Altering  tht  Li- 

tnreic . 


^fff^^f^a^^mmmmf^^-^  - — '  '  •'•' '  "•»     '  fn 

Tfie  Contents. 


/7  Ujed, 
Dukei  tttAtntlir.  7  he  fitmtfutt  tymnet  *nd  mo{t 

of  Lines  w  *//*£«  l*finefr«.  Calvin** 


. 

w  Letter  t«  the  Arclib.  cleared  from  the  cwilj  of  the  Miniftcr 
of  Line:  The  teftimoait  given  the  firft  Liturgie  bj  K.  Edw.tf.*/- 
fertedfrcm  thefal/e  conftruttioM  of  the  Miniflcr  of  Line:  M  alfo 
that  given  to  it  by  the  /5.ir/ww<r»r.^rf/;^.Bancrofr>4Wjo:  Fox, 
Ttk*t  tkejfy  thereof.  ThtftAnding  of  the  Table  tfttr  the  tlter*. 

thnofthe  Liturgie  ;  Mid  that  the  name  of  Altar  WAJ  be  ufed  in 
ft      i     f        i  f       * 

n  C  hftrch  reformed. 


SECTION  II. 


CHAP.  V. 

What  was  theancient  Dodrine  of  the  Church  con 
cerning  Sacrifices i  Priefs^  and  Altars :  and  what  the 
Doftnne  of  this  Church  in  tliofc  particulars. 

That  Sacrifices,  Pi  icfts,  and  Altars  tvercfromthe  beginning, 
[>y  the  light  of  nature  ;  And  that  not  onely  AntQitgtt  the  Patriarchs, 
but  Amongst  the  Gentiles.  That  in  the  Cbriftiatt  Church  there  is 
A  Sacrifice,  Priefts,  and  Altars,  andthofe  both  inflittttedavdex- 
prtfidin  the  ho!}  GofpelL  The  ltk«  delivered  by  Dionyfiusjgna- 
tius-jliidin  Martyr,<i«^  in  the  Canons oftheApiftles.  At  *lfo  by 
Tcrtnlli.inlIrcnxiiS|Oriptcnl<M^  .V. Cyprian.  How  the  Apologc- 
ticks  ofthofe  times  are  to  be  interpreted^  in  their  denjtll  of  Altars 
in  the  ChrtfliAnC.hnrch.  Miruuiiis  VaiMx.faljtjitd by  the  Minifler 
of  Line.  What  were  the  Sacrifices  TV  hie  hthe  /aid  A  pologeticks 
did  deny  to  be  in  the  Church  c/Chrift.  The  difference  befreeetta 


tf  ->     j  j  j 

off. inc.-  in  the  point  of  Sacrifice.   The  doctrine  of  the  Sa 
crifice  delivered  by  Eufcbiu*.  Ths  doclrine  of  the  following  F*.  ( 
then,  o/Sacrifices.PridU. and  Alt.irs.  What  is  the  Dottrine  of                *~ 
thif  Church,  touching  the  Pricfthood  and  the  Sacrifice.    The                  •; 
yndgemtnt  in  thefe  points  .and  in  that  of  Altars,  ofKt  AndrCWCS, 
A',  lames.  //.Montagnc^W  />, Morton, 

Chap. 


The  Contents. 

C  H  A  P.  V  I, 

An  Anfwer  to  the  Cavils  of  the  Minifterof  Line,  a- 
gainft  the  points  delivered  in  the  former  Chapter. 


elivered  in  thi  3  1  .  Article  t*gA\*  ft  the  being  of  a  Sa 
crifice  in  the  Church  of  C  hnfl\  nor  in  the  Homilies.  yf  piow  BH!( 
obtruded  on  the  Defter  by  the  Miniftcr  e/l.inc.  The  Reading- 
Pew/^  Pulpit  ,  tndthepoor-mc.ns.fiox  mttdt  Altar  t  by  the  Mi- 
niftcr  0/Linc.^»  huddle  cftmpentnexc  tes  brought  in  concerning 
facrifice  Commemorative  tCommetnot\nion  oj  afacrificc  jind  ma- 
teriull  Altars  .The  Sacrifice  of  the  A  Irar  kyw*  bj  th,it  n.ime  unto 
the  F  jtkerr.  Arnobius/<t//;/?^.7*/;r  Miniftcr  ofLittC.qneftioas  S. 
Pauls  dtfcrettonjn  ^wHabemus  Aitare.Hr^.  i  ;.  i  Q.anelfa/fijiflh 
J.-Ainbrofe,  Tkt  meaning  of  that  Ttxt  accenting  *nto  £.  An- 
drcwcs,  ^.Montague,  the  Rifiop  andthe  Mwfttr  cfLinc.  The 
fftme  ex  founded  by  the  tld  Writers  ,both  Creek  And  I  .atinc.  The 
Alt  Ar  sin  the  Apoftlcs  Canont  nttde  Pantcrics,*wrf  l.arders;  And 
Judas  hit  b*g  AH  Alt*r  [>y  thit  mtn  o/Liti.  The  D  after  And  Ig'ia- 
tius  vindicated  in  the  th>ee  fluces  touching  Akars.  TheprophAHC 
Pafljt%e  in  the  Minifters  Bool^ofa  W  ido  w-  Altar.  An  an/ver  to 
the  £avi(s  of  the  Miniftcr  o/Linc.  agAtnft  tie  evidence  produced 
from  Irenarus  And  ^.Cyprian.  The  Minifters*^«or^«^  mi(i*k<s 
about  the  meaning  tf  Tcrtullian  in  the  word  Ara.  Pamelius  nci* 
rtAdtn^  *itvnt  Charis  Dei,  not  HniverfcKj  received.  A  britfe  n- 
citttllof  the  /Hl'fttncc  in  theft  two  l<tft  Ch<tpten\ 

CHAP.  VII. 

Of  Churches,and  thcfafhion  ofthem,nnd  of  the  ufu-1 
all  place  allotted  in  the  Church  for  the  holy  Altar. 

P  facet  appointed  for  Divine  worfiip  ttmtnpft  r/^Ptitr.iarche», 
Jevves,  <«»«GentilCJ.  The  various  condition}  And  eftatetf  the 
Chriftit  Chursh^&  that  the  Churchet  were  tccordwi  unm  thafe 
eftatcs  WhutWM  the  meaaing  of  the  ApologCticks  token  the  j 
dtnitd  the  h*wi£  of  Temples  w  tht  Church  of  Cht  i/tt  The  M  i- 

' 


ThFContcnts. 

flcr  »/  Line,  ft  oft  tht  nroutb  of  Mirutiui  Felix,  *kd  falftjietb 
Arnobim.  Alrars  bow  jitttated  in  the  trouble  (bme  and  ptrfecHteA 
times  0/ChriftianUv.  The  u'Kall  forme  efCh»rche$^  and  dtjlintt 
tar  ft  and  places  of  them  in  the  primitive  times.  That  tn  thofe  rimtt 
the  Alcars  flood  not  in  the  body  of  the  Church,  M  ufuppofed  b)  the 
Minifter  0/Lnc.  Six  Reafontfor  the  founding  of  the  .  -Itars  At  the 
Upper  end  of  the  Q\.\n^orC\\^n^\\inthedayesof  old.  O;  Eccle- 
fulticail  tr^dtttonSj  and  the  Authority  thereof.  The  Church  of 
England  cor.ft.:nt  to  the  prailife  of  the  former  times.  The  Mini- 
Ocrc/I.inc.  tels  a  IVinter  tdt  about  the  {landing  of  an  Altar  in 
the  Clatlicclra!  Cluu  cli  ofVuvcr.Tbe  metiningoftb*  Kubrick  in 
the  (.'timwoii  prtjrr-l>ooli-e>til>ant  the  placing  of  the  Table  in  Com 
munion  time  ;  M  at  jo  oftheli.  Canon  of  the  Church  f/ 

CHAP.  VIII. 


An  Anfwcrto  the  UJf/»//?^of  Lincoln*  Arguments 
againft  the  (landing  of  tlic  Lords  Table  at  the  up 
per  end  of  the  Qmrc. 


The  Minifter  */ Lincoln/or/^'  bis  Bifhop,«£0fltt  tht  ,  0 
0/fJ^  Altar  in  the  body  »/  r^  Church.  The  Altar  w  Eufebius 
Panegyric^ ,  »<"  I'M /£<?  middle  of  the  C  hurch.The  Minifters  c  on- 
fidence  and  ignorance,  in  placing  the  Altar  0/inCCnfe  */*/*»»'« 
the  vaile.  Toftatus  falftfiedty  tht  Minifter  */  Lincoln.  KJx>«  3u- 
erji^w  »»  ^''  //'  Co ««<:<?#  0/Conftantinoplc,  W  the  meaning 
of  it.  The  Minifter  of  Lincoln  at  A /ofle  in  h:s  Cnticall  learning, 
bsti)  Greek  and  Latin.  Varro  co-rupted  by  the  Minifter  */Litt- 
coln.  ^'«^  Augiiftinc  wh.it  hee  meant  by  Menfa  ilia  in  medio 
conftitura.  Albalpinas/^/^.  Durandus  fets  the  Mrzrat  t(e 
upper  er.dofthe  entire, The  tejlimony  of  Socrates  /WNicepho- 
rus  aff:  rtcd  to  the  'Doftorfrom  the  Minifters  cavils.  Tht  Altars 
bow  now  placed  tn  the  Greek  Churches.  The  weakf  authorities 
produced  by  the  Minifter  oflincdn,  for  placing  of  tht  Table  di- 
ftantfrom  the  tva/l^ndfome  of  them  corrupt  eda/fo.  The  generali 
Precedents  of  the  ^mhu,  for  placing  of  the  bolyTablcJorged: 


The  Contents. 

<»  d/o  Are  thf  Afts  eftht  Connce!l  o/Millaine  nndtr  Borromeo. 
The  Minifter  cgnfe fifth gtiiltjt  and  confute!  htmfelfe,offalifctt. 
tion.  Alany  p.irttctt/iTr  Precedents  brought  in  :  mtft  of  them 
counterfeit  t\nd  forged,  \  and  nil  together  cond»dt  nothing  to  the 
point  in  band.  The  Minillcr  o/Li.icch  *ga inft  himfelft. 


SECTION.    III. 


CHAP.  IX. 

A  bricfc  Purvey  and  ccnfurc  of  the  fir  ft  fcrvicc  of  Ex- 
travagaritics  in  the  holy  Table. 

The  Minifters  Extravagancies,  one  cfthe  gmteft  psrt  of  bis 
*hole  difconrft.  Hu  ignorant  mtftaking  in  /^Mathtina»icks 
concerning  the  inventions  o/Huclidc,  AtchimcdcS,«*^Pythago- 
ras.  The  Mjnifter/rf«//<r/  in  the  original!  o/Epi'icopall  authori, 
tj.  Hit  bringing  tn  ofmnftz  ClaTa,rtw^San^)a  Petra./or  the  jin. 
gle  onely.  Tne  Aftntftcr  mtftt>\(£s  the  c*fe  of  the  German  Priefts. 
His  cavils  <r  the  ,'orme  ot  I'raycr  before  the  Sermon\And  turning 
tovpurdt  the  E<»lt  in  the  All  of  Prayer.  The  Minifters  iar.crant 
endcuoHn  to  aivjnct  thr  authority  of 'he  Archdeacons. 7"ta  A-/i- 
.  r.ifter  miflak^r,  it,  the  Djaconicon.  what  th?  Piacoii) ••«•<«  ;  find 
lh*t  it  *ddet  but  little  to  the  dignity  of  A?ch^cicons,  that  the 
old  Deacon  h.td  the  keeping  of  it.  The  Aficijltr  at>jtod/y  fas  tht 
Deacon  above  the  PriclK  Portare  Altarc,  not , >i»  honour  in  the 
firftDc9Can^6tit*Jfrvicc0Ke/j.  Thelittlt  hevour  done  f-y  tht 
Jlltniftcr  to:he  Archdeacons,  in  drawing  down?  thfir  pf-i-fgret 
from  thtfiift  Deacons. T he  Afimfters  ier.or<int  »,ij},i^e  tt,  /.-/<  or< n 
..  JrWutcnfil.  The  Mnnfterftibjtlh  the  Pi  icft  to  the  anthtriij  rf 
v. ,  tht  Church  wo .rdcn,  and  for  that  pmpnfe  f*t/fi  fi-th  I  i:id\vood. 
His  ignorant  derivations  of  the  prcjtnt  C!"  tirchwaulcn  irotn 
the  old  Occonomus.  The  iJMtnifter  emlevMrt  to  (xctitdttht 
Clcrgic/rcw  medlingin  fccnlar  matt  crttand  to  that  tndat>nfeth 

tht 


The  Contents.' 

the  authority  of  the  ancient  Fathers.  His  igno'ranc  tin  the  Cat  e- 
cbifinc,  and  confident  miftakes  inthat.  Hit  hearth fre  pic*  for 
bowing  at  the  Name  of}  i  s  v  s. 

CHAP.  X. 

The  fecond  fcrvicc  ofExtravagMefofcnt  up  and  fct 
before  his  gr.cfts  by  the  Minifter  of  Lincoln. 

The  Mctaphoricall  Altars  in  /^Fathers,  good  evidence  for 
the  proof  e  cf  Rcall  Altars  in  the  Church.   Ignatius  corrupted  by 
Vedelius.Afy  Lord  of  Chichcflers  ctnfure  <?/Vedclius.  The 
Aliniflcr  mi fre ports  S.  Bernard,  and  makes  ten  Altars  out  of 
fottre.  A  new  origintllofthc  Table  in  the  Chrifltan  Church  from 
the  Table  of  Shew-brcad ;  the  Minifters/'W/»»£  in  the  fame, 
defer ttd  by  theft  Authors  that  hee  brings  inftr  it.  The  Minifter 
pleads  ftrongly  for  fitting  at  the  holj  Sacrament ;  and  for  that    ' 
purpofe  falfifieth  llMonms,mifrtportt  Saint  h\\ft\nyandwrcngt 
Tcriullian.  'The  Bcnediflines/f  not  at  the  Sacrament  on  Maun 
dy  Thurillay.  Of  the  Seiur  de  Pibrac.  The  Minifter  advocates 
for  the  fuhnsta*dw/l  not  bavt  them  tee  the  Authours  o/fitting 
at  thf  holy  Sacrament ;  and  for  that  caafe  deales  falfely  vtith  the 
Polifli  Synous  which  impute  it  to  them.  Three  Polifh  Synods 
afcnbe  the  fitting  c.t  the  Sacrament  to  the  modern  Arians.  The 
ignorance  of  the  Minifter  rf^w/accifere  &:refervare*«Tertul- 
lian.  What  the  Stations  were.  Lame  Giles.  The  MinlRct /lights 
the  appellation  ofthefecotidSetvicc,  at  Jtdthe  Writer  efthe  let 
ter;  and  brings  in  fever  all  arguments  again  ft  that  divifion.  The 
JWiniJlers  ignorance  in  the  intention  of  the  Kubricks.  Of  felting 
up  A  Confittory  in  the  midft  offer-vice. The  authority  eft  lie  PrieU 
in  repulfing  ttn-.vort^y  perfonsfrom  the  Sacrament ;  defended  a- 
cMnft  the  Miniftcrs  *b fur d exceptions,  Hefets a  quarelibnncenc 
Cathedral!  And  Parochial!  Churches  >tandmifl*kes  the  difference 
bit-necnc  them  The  In }\.\K&\w.*f<ilJified.Of  being afiamcdat  the 
n^ms  of  the  Lords  Table.  The  Minifter  *fiat»ed  at  the  name  of 
Altar.  O/pIcafing  the  people;  and  the  Minifters  extreme p nrfnit 
thereof.  The  Minifter  ff/fefy  chirgethon  tf)c?>ottor<tfooli(h 
•"  —      "    Diptychs.'*" 


•v' 

M,  i 


^      DOTVM 

LINCOLN  I ENSE 


CHAP.  I. 

Of  the  ftate  of  the  queftion.and  the  occafion  of 
wrmng  the  letter  to  the  Vicar  of  Gr. 


Accuf<:r.W. 


Alderman 


notun^tynpp!ication 
.ri,/w 

ln  lacc  s  that  * 

or  ««,„(,,« 


urt    ocemiaht  alfn 
appolnt=d  fpokcrof  the  P«Sfor  the 

ho  ufc 


w,'efl- 
' 


CO 

c^A          houfc  ofCommon*,that  with  great  eloquence  he  haj 
'      dcfired  to  be  cxcufcd  from  undertaking  that  imploy- 
mcnt,  for  want  of  eloquence.  The  fame  may  bcaffir. 
med  sstruely,  Tarn  lure  more  pertinently,  oi  this 
Xon.ncwo,  Mr.  Somebody  •,  (K)  (owe  MinijhrofLin- 
colncDicctfc:  Charing  the  DoSor  whomhecun* 
dcrtakcih,  with  libelling,  bee  hath  (hewed  himfelft 
thc'ncateft  libeller  jaccuiing him  of  railing,  he  hath 
(hewed  himfelfethe  vericft  railcrj  and  taxing!  him  for  • 
fa-lfifyinc  his  Texts  and  Authors,hath(|iewcdLimfeIf 
the  moft  notorious  falfificr  that  ever  yet  put  pen  to 
paper.  And  fiift,he  chargeth  him  with  libeUwg.upon 


4JP  . 

lour  S.  i^//yw,  that  a  ///W/  «».«•  dtriifid  from  two 
words,  d//r,  andrffc//-,  of  which,  the  Dodtor  made 
1^  /^  rf»</  ftnt  it  fir  A  tektu  M  his  private  pte*4  j  the 
bell  bcins  put  toby  that  /r/w^/,  w  tmm**£*gi*H 
f/je  Prefff,  **<tn»gi*gi*  *bo*dwcr  all  the  Cvtatrey, 
p*r.  i.  Nor  is  it  placed  there  oncly  in  the  front  to 
diipoit  the  Reader,  but  it  is  called  a/iW,f.ax.tnd 
/>  60  TA-r  whefe  looke  nothing  but  A  libcll  *g*inf  A  Bt- 
%»,*.<  8.  ;;nd  that  you  may  perceive  he  is  no  change- 


inl'H]., 
owl  a  //Mitis  called  r,gair,e  towards  the  latter  end, 
p  120.  He  re  is  a  /;/*//  with  a  wire  He,,  a  libttt  pubh- 
llicdby  authority,  a  licenced  libell,  fjriniid  vitk  It* 
m:cc,  as  himfeHe  confcffcth,  />.  4-  Tor  whofoever 
made  the  he,  you  make  his  Majefty,incffeft,tobcthc 
aiuhour  of  the  //Wjbccaufc  you  cannot  but  conceive, 
that  no  man  cliu  ft  have  printed  his  Declaration  in  the 
cafe  of  S.  Gregories  Church,without  his  Majcfties  cx- 
prc  flfc  confent,  and  gracious  approbation.  Or  if  you 
would  be  thought  fo  dull.as  not  to  apprehend  a  thing 


TIT" 

fo  clecrc,  yet  mud  the  publifliing  of  this  libcll  reft  in 
conclufio  on  my  Lord  high  Trrt*/*w-,at\vhofc  houfc 
the  book  was  licenced. J  Vhich  it  fohigh(&  ).<  language  (A;  p.^~ 
againjl  authority,  againft  thefraitife  of  this  Realm  for 
licencing  of  books,  and  finally  againft  the  honour  of 
the  Star-Chamber,onwhofc  decree  that  prattifc  and 
authority  is  founded  5  <ts  ivas  never  uttered  and  printed 
rvith,cr  without  licence,  by  any  fubjcft  tf/England  before 
this  time.  But  this  conccrnes  not  mce  fo  much,  as  the 
higher  Powers.  I  onely  touch  upon  it,  and  fo  leave  it: 
and  with  it  turncthe  /iwlfbaclc  on  thisunccrtainc  ccr- 
tainc  Minifter, \\\\Q  daring  not  to  (hew  himfclfe  in  the 
Kings  high  way,  was  fame  to  feckc  out  blind  paths, 
and  crooked  lanes,  in  them  to  fcatter  up  and  downe 
thofc  guilty  papers,  which  are  indeed  a  //'£f//both  for 
narnr  and  nature.  Tor  if  a  Itbe  II  bee  derived  from  a  lie 
and  a  bcll^  it  ferves  this  turne exceeding  fitly.  Tirft  Mr. 
Some-body,  this  fomeMiniftcr,m^s  the  //>,  telling 
us  of  art  Anfiver  \vrtt  long  agoe  by  a,  Mini 'ft  er  of  Lincoln* 
fiire^  againft  abookcthatcame  into  the  world  but  ten 
moncths  beforehand  then  he  fends  it  to  the  Lord  Bpof 
Lincolnc,  Dcaneof  VVcftmiflftcr^  who  forthwith  purs  a 
£f  AT  unto  it, an  unlicenccd  licence,  and  riigs  it  over  all 
the  countrcy .  («)  And  it  did  give  An  O  men  cfwh.it  n.i-  (0  ra 
lure  the  whole  booke  wcu  Id  prove  ,by  that  which  folio  w- 
cth  in  the  Title  j  Printed  for  the  Dtocffi  of  Lincolne. 
Whereas  indeed  it  was  not  printed  either  for  that  Di- 
ocefe,  or  for  any  other,  but  calculated  like  a  common 
Almanack  Jtm  the  particularMeridian  of  fome  one  dif- 
contented  humour ;  with  an  intent  that  it  fliould  gene 
rally  fcrvcforall  the  Puritans  of  Credit  VrittAtn.  Or  if 
youarc  not  willing  it  mould  be  a  libcll,  to  gratifie  you 
for  this  oncc,lctitbc  *  L9»-bcR  5  A  thing  that  makes  a 

C  2  mighty 


(4) 

Se&,  i .  mighty  noifeto  aftonim  and  amaze  poore  birds,  thac 
comming  after  with  your  light,  you  may  take  then) 
up,  and  fend  them  fora  token  to  Pert  Cttton,  or  carry 
them  along  with  you,  when  you  goc  your  fclfe,  with 
the  next  fhipping  for  New.  England^  But  being  a  low- 
Icll  and  a  libell  too,take  them  both  together.,  Ft  ft  nt* 
frojlnt  fingula,  iufjtfa  iuvait. 

Your  lecond  generall  charge  is  Ruling ,  Oyjlcr- 
whcre  language  as  you  call  it,  p .  98.  And  being  fame 
Minifcr,  Com*  great  man,fuch  a  one  ns  ThcitclM  in  the 
\^dtis>  who  boaftcd  of  bimfclfc  th.it  he  was  feme  body  ; 
you  thinkc  ir  a  preferment  to  the  Dorter,  to  were  your 
livery  ;  which  you  bcftow  upon  him  with  a  badge, 
(that  you  may  know  him  for  your  owne)and  call  him 
f cur  ri  lottt  r tiler,  f.i^o.  RAJ  ling  V  hi  lift  in.  p.  i  p  i ,  and 
Railing  Donor,  p.  «/f  .Where  doc  you  finde  him  pec 
cant  in  that  pecvjfh  kinde,  that  you  mould  Iny  fuch 
load  r.pon  him  ^  What  one  uncivill,  much  lefle  fcur- 
rilous  paiTage,  can  you  dcfervedly  charge  him  with, 
in  his  whole  anfwerc  to  that  letter,  which  you  have 
tookc  upon  you  to  defend,  maugre  all  the  world?  The 
worft  word  there,  if  you  findcany  one  ill  word  in  it, 
was  I  trow  good  enough  for  your  friend  7.  C.  a  SV- 
furAtift  from  this  Church,  at  that  time  5  perhaps  a  Sc- 
baptift  by  this  time :  who  by  the  Anfoercr  is  fuppofcd 
to  be  the  writer  of  that  letter  ;  and  might  have  beene 
fuppofcd  fo  ftill,  for  ought  you  know,  had  not  you. 
told  us:o  the  contrary,  and  got  your  Ordinaries  hand 
to  the  Certificate.  But  bee  hec  what  he  will,  pray  Sir 
who  arc  you,that  you  mould  quarrell  any  man  for  rat" 
//'#£,  beilig  your  felfc  fo  ready  a  matter  in  thatart,that 
howfoevcryour  fingers  might  perhaps  be  burnt.your 
////  aflu redly  were  never  ts»://cJ#itb4  Coalcfrom 

the- 


(J) 

the  Altar,  gtrittfacriv/ili.  I  will  not  fccke  to  break  Capl  I. 

you  of  fo  old  a  rrickjwhich  I  am  very  well  contented 

you  ftiould  enjoy  without  any  partner,  Onely  I  will 

nuke  bold  to  dcalc  with  you,  as  Alexander  did  with 

his  horfc.50«pA.f/«f,(f)  take  you  a  little  bythcbri-  tf)  ?9ft**f»> 

die,  and  turnc  you  towards  the  Sunne,  that  other  men  w  ?"*'  '.  CT 

r      i  i          i  11  r  i  r  J         B'<V  st*   ;:? 

may  Ice  how  you  lay  about  you,  though  your  (elf  doe  fan.  n.::. 
not.  Hardly  oncleafe  from  the  beginning  to  the  enda 
wherein  you  have  not  feme  one  Title  of  honour  to  be- 
ftow  upon  him  ;  which  without  going  to  the  Jfcralds, 
I  (hall  thus  marfliall  as  I  findc  them.  Poore  fellow  ,p.i  . 
and  6  \  .  /tnimalpttgnac  ifimnm^  Gander  ,  Commj*  Bar 
retter,  p.  ^  ,  Wr  angler  J.  4  .  Haughty  companion,  ^.5. 
Doughty  Dottor,p.2i.  This  Animal  ,p.i^,  Scribler^p. 
26.  Cumane  creature,  and/tfnw/'/rg  Sycophant,  />.  55. 
Animal  rationale  ri  fib  tie,  a  moft  ridiculous  creature  for 
his  reasoning,  p.  42.  Pamphlettcr,  p.<>  8  .  and  poor  e  pant. 
fhlctter,  8  5  .  Firebrand,  p  .  6  2  .  J/*/?  in]udic't8w  andtri- 
It4tlicion-s  Rabbi  tp.  j6.  si  Divine 

and 


Sqne.i- 

gentleman,  p.iio.  Foore  Defter,  p.  132.  and  158. 
thing  that  cannot  bluft,  />  1  4  1  .  L^tujhrem^  and  <r«- 
tM  (ompattion,  p.  150.    T/;;*  wanofrags^  p.  154. 
Xot>W'(Mld-bc,p,  159.  Impudent  companion,  p.  188. 
Slinking  Dottcr,  p.  i  *p  o.  i'4/i  Sycophant,  p.  i  p  r  .  W/;//. 
ler,p.io^.  Kraggard,  p.  227.  and  to  conclude  with 
Railing  Dotfor,p.ult.  HA  manw  Trejam  erigent  ?   Is 
this  the  meanes  to  faveyour(g)  Tw_y  from  mine,  of  f 
which  you  tell  us,£.  60  f  No  other  way  to  fhew  your  dcxtia  d-:fenJi 
*w/f  unto  the  caufc  ,  but  by  forgetting  all  good  man-  ^°^stcft)*'c' 
ners  f  Such  ftuffc  as  this,  till  you,  ar.3  your  con  fcde. 
ratcMr.//.  Burtfti  came  in  print  together,  hath  not 

C  3  bcenc 


~w 

Seel.  i.  beenefcttoopen  fale,  fince  (UJ  WdgrAves preite,  in 
(hi  WaJijrrves  Lofidd}ij,r>&  that  of  T.C.which  you  wot  of  in  the  City 
of 'Coventry ,  (')  have  beenc  out  of  work.  Burton  and 
you,  the  oncly  two  that  have  revived  that  kinde  of 
languagCjWhich  finceoldJi/4r//»  Mtrre-  Prelates  daics 
hath  not  fecn  theSun  j  but  being  now  brought againe 
i-p'rt.nr  tcon-  into  the  \vorlds  and  on  a  thoroiv  fernfatl^  confirmed  and 


licenced,  you  may  proceed  for  yoiu  part, 

(i)Kol,  table.       .     .         5/.        /rt  r-i- 

>^-j.  •%?•"*» ronc  dares  touch  you  for  it.    I  ortunate  man, 

(kjistLetictitce  whofe  very  railings  are  allowed  oft  as  being  (k)  jm/i 
onl-odoxe  in  dcclrixe^  and  c  on  fan  ant  in  difcifiline  t$  the 
Church  of  England,  and  therefore  very  fit  to  i>e  printed, 
there  is  no  qucftion  of  it.  Koiis  non  licet  ejfe  ttm  di~ 
fertis  :  Torus  poorc  fcllowcs  as -we  a  re,  it  is  not  our 
ambition  to  looke  upon  that  height  of  eloquence, 
which  you  fo  profperoufly  have  attained  to. Or  could 
we  reach  it,(bcing,Ithink,a  matter  fcafil>lc)we  fliould 
be  fine  to  have  a  check  for  it,  not  an  Approbation.  But 
(1)  ;»P/.W/M.  j  wijj  ea£  you  Ofthat  fcare<  Non  (i)  tratlafa  ut  Confu- 

lern,  KC  iKequidcm  rut  ut  confuUrem  j  however  it  was 
Tuflies  plea,  (hall  bee  none  of  mine.  I  muft  remem 
ber  who  I  am,  not  what  you  merit :  and  therefore 
in  my  anfwcrs  to  your  Heights  and  cavills ,  I  will  re- 
ply  ad  rent ,  and  not  Ad  heminem.  You  have  fomc 
Coals  upon  your  hud  dizzAy  :  Inufingyou  thus  gent- 
Cm) R6, 11.10,  jy^  j(m)flwll  heapconmorc  ;  which  is  an  honefter 
revenge  than  you  ever  ftudicd,  and  better  than  you 
have  deferved. 

The  firft  two  faults  you  charge  him  with,were  on 
ly  crh»iit*B,  in  which  the  Star-C/JAotfar,  or  the  Guild 
}UH  might  afford  you  remedy  :  but  that  which  fol- 
lowes  in  thelaft,is  C*pit*ll  5  clipping  the  Kings  ownc 
coine,  and  jfuch  as  is  made  currant  within  this  King- 
dome  : 


(7) 

domctagcncrallfalfifyingof  hisMijefticsDccIara-  Cap,  I. 
tions,  Lawes,  In  junctions  ;  of  all  bookcs,  cither  prin 
ted  here,  or  imported  hither.  The  whole  bookc,^/  /'/ 
it  a  libf'l  AgAinfl  A  Bfjlffp,  ft  every  Icafe  thereof  is  A  ma- 
HciowfAlfpcAtiofioffime  Jut  for  Brother.  />.5S.^.«- 
rifvmilttmiAdiftbrt'Uittt?  Could  any  man  have  fpoke 
more  home,  and  ufed  fewer  words  *.  In  cafe  this  be 
not ,  ww  w  i\*#'sv>  nothing  ever  \v;is.  What  t  not 
one  Icafe  without  fomc  falsification,  and  a  malicious 
one  tobootc,of  fome  Author  or  other '.  AflTuredly, 
if  fo,  you  may  juftly  call  him  falfe-fttgred  gentleman, 
bold mAnya  niller  at  quotations ,&  what  clfc  you  plcafc. 
There  is  not  a  friend  he  hath,  but  will  thankeyou  for 
it.    But  if  your  challenges  be  but  fuch  as  thofc  you 
mention^. 23.  in  calling  Plo^den  Judge,  beino;  but  a 
Counfellourat  Law,  (no  fuch  malicious  falsification, 
if  you  markcitwell)  and  fettingdowncSir.fl^rf,  for 
Sir  Edward  Coke,*  miftakeonely  of  the  Printer :  have 
you  not  made  your  triumph  before  the  victory  '.  The 
Author  faw  thofe  errors,  and  faw  them  mended  too, 
before  youobfcrved  them :  both  of  them  being  cor 
rected  in  the  fecond  cdition^vhich  followed  dole  up 
on  the  firftjwithin  one  fortnight;  and  which  you  caa- 
not  but  have  fccnc,  though  youdi(fcmbleit,onely  to 
make  your  brethren  merry  when  you  meet  together. 
For  in  your  90.pag.  encountring  wich  apaffagcof  Bi- 
fliopL4timcrs,yo\.\  cite  it  from  die  author,  as  in  p.  1 6. 
and  fo  it  is  indeed  in  the  fecond  edition  :  whereas 
thofe  words  of  Bifhop  Lrtimerszrcp.  15.  in  the  fir  ft.  (n)Andim*dsii 
This  is  no  honeft  dealing  to  beginnc  with ;  yet  this  is  ^!^S 
that  which  wee  muftlooke  for,  Par  my  &ptirtont,  as  fnmtmlbGt*- 
you  know  who  fay.  And  for  the  (n)  facriled^e  you  '^«  w«*»« 

!•          rii-i  i  i          /      •         O     '          iiifitmBto. 

complamcor,  had  it;  been  the  Authors  (us  it  was  not)  tipnt,^ 

C4  of 


w 

?aft  reafonto  accufehim"; 

having  your  felfc  offended  in  the  fclf-famckinde,  bj 
taking  front  him  hit  nzwc  given  in  Baptifmc.  For  in 
your  88./»<*£.youcall  him  loh*  Coal;  as  if  you  knew 
him  from  his  cradle  :  which,  if  the  Church  book  may 
betrufted,  and  thofc  which  are  yet  living  that  affirms 
the  fame,  was  not  the  name  given  by  his  Godfathers, 
and  Godmothers  j  though  you  may  findc  it  in  your 
(°)  Accidence ,  if  you  fecke  it  there.  And  yet  it  is  no* 
wonder  ncithcr,that  itfhouldbc  thus:  it  being  in  fome 
places  a  received  cuftome,  that  children  when  they 
come  for  (^Confirmation^  change  the  names  which 
they  had  given  them  at  the  font  :  Sufficient  ground 
for  you  to  dtalc  thus  with  the  Author;  and  by  what 
name  foever  he  was  Culled  in  Baptifme,  to  have  him 
now  entitulcd  by  your  own.  You  tc-ll  us  of  fomcothcr 

^P'R-*-  thir.gs,  wherein hce doth  both(q)/4/wand/4/'/f,  as 
you  hunt  the  letter:  but  what  you  fay,  you  fay  with- 
outbooke.  For  upon  examination  it  will  foonc  ap. 
peart,  that  he  \\i\\\ftitttdvc\  nothing,  whatsoever  you 
fay  ;  nv\ failed  in  any  thing,  which  you  (ay  he- /*/>«. 
And  were  it  tolerable  in  another,  to  runne  the  rvild- 

(t)ce*  xmejnJ  gtofc chafe  upon  ir)  words  and  letters,  which  is  a  fport 


infairi-  you  muchdcluiht  in  i  I  have  a  friend  in  ftorefliould 

. >»>./>.: ji     ^i,          .  .         •     r  '  \  !•  \     i\        r 

follow  this  train-fccncwitn  you,  tor  your  bell  prefer 
ment,  and  give  youthree  for  one  in  thcbargainc  too. 
But  for  yomfiiiffags  and  yo\ufiuli*gsjk  whatfoevcr 
other  f.tlfi fixations  you  can  charge  upon  him,wcfliall 
fee  more  hereafter  when  you  bring  them  forth. Mean 
time  you  may  be  pleafei!  to  know  how  ill  this  office 
doth  become  you.  You  know  who  faid  it  well  enough, 
(<)T/j9it  which  teachcft  anotherytcache(l  thou  not  thyfclf? 
Htl'At  preAchefl  A  mA#J\)«HUrtotf(tl,dofttboitJlcal? 

And 


(9) 

And  being  that  you  came  fo  lately  fro  my  our  Acci-  Cap.  L, 
dcnct,  you  cannot  but  remember  the  firft  example  in 
Verlntaccttfon6iiyelAinuAndi.t  which  you  are  moft  per- 
fc<5Hn:ifnot,I!c  tcllyouwhat  iris,  £y  alter umi ncu- 
fAtprtkri,  iffntn  (c  initteri  oporttt.  This  is  fo  eafic  to 
be  Engltficd)  that  you  need  no  c o»flrtti»g  booke ;  and 
tells  you,who  had  need  be  told  it,that  ir  behoves  you 
to  take  care  that  everything  be  well  at  home,  before 
you  come  into  the  Court  ro  accufc  another.Otherwife 
you  will  prove  fuch  a  Cenfor  morum,  as  was  Manittiu* 
PUncuf'm  theRomane  ftorie,  (*)  ,%ti  mlffbjicert  pojfit 
aJ0/eftt»ti&ta,<]uo<in0»4gi9tfccret  fwex  :  moft  guilty 
in  your  doting  daics  of  thole  very  crimes,  which  you 
have  charged  on  them  of  the  younger  fort.  Which 
faid  in  gcncrall,  wcmeanc  to  lay  before  you  plainly, 
without  wekor  guard,  your  jugling  in  the  cariagc  of 
this  bufinellc,as  it  relates  unto  the  ftate  of  the  qucHi- 
on,and  other  the  Contents  of  your  firft  Chapter:  and 
after  all  thofemanifeft  and  moft  notorious  falfificati- 
onsScimpofturcs  which  you  haveput  upon  the  world, 
in  your  (u)  ktly  tM.  The  holy  tdlenwtr  was  fo  made  ( 
an  /f//4r3asyou  have  made  it  in  that  book;  by  offering 
on  the  fame  fuch  fpotted,  maimed,  and  moftillegall 
facrifices,tO  your  faire  («)  L*verna.  Cx)i'uUlm. 

Firft, for  your  ftating  of  thequcflion,  youhnvcan  ^tnj«l^ 
excellent  advantage,  (could  you  hold  it /aft)  in  ma-  ffllji 
King,  as  you  doe,  your  own  cafe,  your  o\vn  evidence,  der'«  «•""• 
and  your  ownc  authorities.  The  principals  in  th:  bu- 
nncile,  were  the  Vic.ir  of  Grant kiw,  the  JUcrmw 
thereof>nd  my  Lord  E/fiof  of  ihe  Diocefle5  the  one- 
lyAcccfl'Ary ^hereunto,  the  Bifliops  Sccrc.nry.  Of  all 
thefethercis  none  that  cither  can,  or  will  confute  you 
in  any  thing  you  fay  ,fay  you  wlut  you  will.  The  rictr 

he 


n<^  y°u  may  ufc  h'im  a$  y°u  pfcafc ;  for 

mm  HI  non  mordent ,as  the  faying  is :  But  yet  take  heed, 
(and  fay  africndadvifcdyouto  it)  what  you  lay  upon 
him.  l:or  though  lie  cannot  anfwcr  to  your  flandcrs 
now,  lice  may  bring  you  to  an fwcr  for  them  another 
fa)  p.ig.  ii.     ^y    j-jlc  ^4i(icrmAn  being  fct  forth  unto  us  for  («)  4 
OOraS7-        di jcreet  and  mode fn»Ant  as  the  letter  tells  us;  (b)  ^4 
frudent  aud  difcreet  man,  as  your  booke  informcsus  5 
did  never  flicw  his  wifdome  and  difcrctionmorc3than 
CO  r-^-7-        that  he  was  fc)  ajfraid  to  offend  the  Bifiof.  And  bring, 
if  he  be  alive,  wprudtnt  &  difcreet  as  ever, mud  needs 
be  now  as  much  afraid  to  offend  the  Bijl)of>,zs  before 
he  was  j  and  therefore  you  may  fay  your  pleafure,jmd 
call  the  AldcrtHAn,znd.  the  Alderman;  letter  to  witncrTc 
what  you  plcafcto  fay  j  you  arc  furc  of  that.  As  for 
the  f?///>0j>,from  whole  mouth  you  muft  have  the  fto- 
rie,  hec  hath  good  reafon  to  confirme  and  juftific  his 
ownc  relation  ;  that  it  may  fet  him  off  the  better,  and 
givctheworld  a  full  accompt  of  his  moft  moderate 
proceedings  in  a  point  fo  agitated.  Then  for  the  Se 
cretary,  being  >ve  findc  not  in  the  ftorie,  that  hcc  was 
^)png.93To.    any  morcimploycd,  than  (aj  fitting  up  with  his  Lord 
thacmg^/,  fetching  the  booh  of  Martyrs  out  <j/thc  lull, 
and  ttorrtwing  Bifiop  Icivcls  wirkes  from   the  Partfl) 
C/;«;-^,and  giving  out  the  letters  as  his  Lord  direftcd, 
he  was  but  «o<«w&t4<'#''»  a  living  inftrumcnt ;  and  if  cx- 
cminrd,  can  fty  nothing  that  will  doc  you  hurt.    So 
that  in  cafe,  thcBifhopcan  but kccpc  your  counfell, 
as  no  doubt  hce  will ;  and  Mr  Alderman  hath  not  loft 
his  ancient  frudence  and  discretion ,  which  God  for 
bid,  you  may  (land  forth,  and  tell  your  tale,  and  tell 
it  with  as  high  a  confidence,  as  if  wee  were  obliged 
to  take  all  for  Gofpell.   This  you  conceive  at  Icaft, 

and 


" oo  "  — 

and  go  on  accordingly  :not  thinking  that  in  Tome  main  Cap.  i  ] 
poinrs,thofe  ^)ofrhe  vf//frM£f  and  the  fame  Province  ^rSkfAih 
can  dctcft  you  ;  or  that  there  is  no  way  to  bring  truth  ''»»«"« 
to  light,  hut  byconfcflion  of  the  parties.  Now  in  ^Jjj 
your  ftoricof  the  bufinefle,  you  tell  us  that  the  Vicars 
head  was  full  of  crotchets.  Firft,  (f)  turning  cut  of  the 
/fnwithc  LedurcTS  there,6f/*£  f»r*  gr^v*  anAfuinfull 
prcacbers,as  you  fct  them  forth.  For  bcmgfahr/eaby 
the  Parifli  (to  which  the  Biifcop  was  fo  gocdajricna)  ' 
you  cannot  but  txtolhhem,whatfocvcr  they  wercjor 
what  juft  caufe  focvcr  the  poorc  Vicar  had  to  rid  the 
towne  of  them.  Then  for  the  fccond  Crotchet,  that 
was,you  fay , the  removing  of  the  Communion  table  fiom 
the  «f per  part  of  the  quirejvhcre  it  rras  comely  placed  be 
fore  3  (ana  bad  flood  timeout  tffiiindc)  unto  the  <^4ltAr- 
flace^  AS  he  called  it  5  and  telling  Mr  ^IdcrmAn  (who 
out  of  his  tltfcrctitn,  muft  needs  quejlion  the  Vic  AT  for 
it)  thrt  he  had  done  it,  and  would  jujltfe  it.  What  proof 
have  wee  for  this,  (for  of  thcothcr  you  bring  none)  I 
meanc,that  the  Communion  table  ftood-in  the  upper 
part  of  the  Qajrc,in  fuch  a  comely  failiion,  for  ib  long 
continuance;  and  that  it  was  removed  by  the  vie  AT 
onely,  without  confulting  with  the  Chancclhtir ,  or 
perhaps  the  Ordinary  ?  For  proofe  of  this  we  a  re  re- 
ferreatoMr  dldermans  letter.    Then  that  the  Vicar 
called  the  Communion  table  by  the  name  of  7><r//c_>, 
faying  that  he  would  but  Id  nn  Altar  ofjlone  at  his  ownt^f 
charge ;  and  that  the riu'c  people  made  reply,  that  he 
fiouldfrt  up  no  drcjfrrs  of  (lone  in  their  Church :  What 
proofe  have  we  of  th.  t '.  Mr  i^ildermant  letter.  Next, 
(f)  th.?t  he  ufed  ligl't  grjJnrcs  in  lowirg  at  the  nAme  of 
Jt  /i'S.y^  *4  fomettrf.c  s  I,  f  ttokefe//  d>  rvne,  Aid  once  him- 
dcffioaofthofcihat  were  not  {o  will  iff  tiled 

to 


io  ri}At  religions  Ceremony :  What  evidence  to  make 
that  good  <  Mr.  Alderman*  letter.  Thcfearethcmoft 
imtcriall  things  in  the  whole  relation,  fofarrcasic 
concerned  the  ground  of  the  proceeding  ;  and  for 
thcproofc  of  all  wee  mufttakc  your  word,  as  well 
asMr./i  Hermans  letter.  l;or  what  if  Mr.  Alderman 
writ  no  fuch  letter,  or  if  he  writ  it  on  the  Pofl.fatt  on- 
ly,  to  make  good  your  tale  j  or  if  you  make  more  of  it 
than  he  mentioned  in  it :  as  who  can  tell  but  you  may 
dcalewithMr.  Aldermtns  letters,  as  you  have  done 
throughout  y our booke with  the  .-ildermtus  betters? 
Or  what  if  Mr.  Alderman*  letter  fay  as  much  as  you 
Would  have  him,  why  would  you  have  us  credit  Mr. 
slider  mans  letter,  to  the  difcrcditof  the  Vicar  ;  cfpc- 
cially  as  things  flood  between  them  ?  the  Alderman 
being  moft  apparently  not  a  party  ondyjout  dux  parti- 
»w,thc  leader  of  a  party  againft  hisMinifter.  For  you 

(g/'FJs-*«  your  fclfc  have  tola  us,  that  (p)Mr.  Alderman  (being 
nor(g)  Bifiof,Cb&ncett9rt  r\Qt  Surrogate,  as  I  conceive 
him)  commanded  {lift  owne  officers  (Sergeants,  and 
Beadles,  aRdfuchfcllowcs)/0  remove theTtblc  to  the 
fUce  where  it  flood  before.  Which  being  done  ac- 

(h)  itteeupm   cordinqly,  he  cryes  out  fivft,  and  makes ('')  complaint 

y^Sn    linto  th"c  Bif]l°P  whcn  hc  !lad  no  caufc  :.but  that  hec 
unto  b:sLer<ij7}.  thought  it  an  high  point  of  wifdome,bcing  fa  prudent 

Pa&7-  anddifcrectamanzs  you  fay  hee  was,  to  make  furc 

work  there 5  and  then  zfco  for  the  Vicar.  So  that  the 
^A/frm.w being  both  a  partie,  and  the-  Plaintifetoo,is 
not  to  be  admitted  for  a  witnelTealfo,  except  it  be  by 

1'v  Ih  MMtfit  ^omc  ncw  orc^cr  or"y°ur  ownc  <Jcvifing  5  and  like  to  be 
a  rule  hereafter  in  that  (')  Can-none,  and  trivUlt  lav, 
the  body  of  the  which  we  daily  lookc  for.ofyourfct- 

.  J  J  J 

ting  out, 

But 


But  be  the  letter  his,ornot,you  think  that  you  have  Cap.  I. 
gained  three  points.  Tirft,  a  good  ground  to  change 
the  tcnour  of  your  ownc,  charging  the  Vicar  in  your 
printed  Copy,  with  an  intent  of  fitting  up  atn-xf//.rr 
of  {lone,  which  was  not  to  bcc  found  in  all  the  Manu- 
fcript :  Be/ides,  that  you  have  brought  himinto  fomc 
disfavour  with  his  (  k )  friend,  the  Bijhq,  for  daring  to 
remove  the  CammMttfanttblejNithout  leave  from  him. 
Next,  for  that  flovcnly  and  difgracefull  phrafe  of 
Dreffer ,  given  in  the  Bifliops  written  letter  to  the 
Communion  table  placed  o«f //<!/••  w//?,  and  from  him 
borrowed  by  M\'.frynne\  that  is  now  found  out  to  be 
a  phrafc  of  the  rude  peoples,  AS  youcall  them  :  and  on 
them  fathered  in  the  printed  letter,  to  take  off  that 
fcandall.  Laft  of  alls  whereas  bowing  at  the  Name  of 
JESUS  was  in  the  written  letter  glanced  at,  as  if  it 
idid  procure  derifion  from  the  lookers  on;  that  is  now 
turned  wholly  on  the  Vicar,  and  his  tight  gef  ares  In 
performance  of  that  pious  ceremony  :  the  printed  let 
ter  being  altered  and  explained  in  that  particular  ac 
cordingly.  Having  got  thus  much  by  the  hand,  you 
need  fay  no  more,  but  bcc  re  your  head  up  bravely, 
and  proclaime  your  victory.  Butasheincflf<«r0£/#r 
faid,  Omnc  meum,  &  nihil  rr.cum  ;  fo  may  you  alfo 
fay,did  you  dcalc  uprightly, all  this  that  you  nave  got 
is  nothing,  and  you  may.  put  it  in  your  eye,  without 
feareof  ( l )  blinking.  For  how  may  we  bee  fure  th^t 
Mnnpcttrtbt  half-Vic  AT  ^  asyou  call  him^.yo.  did  of 
his  own  head  remove  the  Communion  table  without 
authority  from  the  Bifhop,  Chancellour;t  or  any  */ h'n 
Surrogates,  (  m  )  as  out  of  Mr.  ^ildcrmAtts  letter  yort 
affirmchc did.  Icfccmcstomc,thathtacqiwiii£cdrhc 
t,and  found  from  him,  ifnotanappro. 

bation, 


-.i  i. 


ra 

i ,    '  bation,  a  toleration  at  the  lead,  conditioned  no  umbra 
ges  and  offence  were  taken  by  the  Tcwne  againfl  it.   For 
thus  the  IctLerjI-F/^  Ifyake  with  you  laf.J  told  you  that 
the  {landing  of  the  Communion  tAblc  n\ts  unto  me  a  thing 
fo  indifferent,  that  unlcffc  offence  and  umbrages  were  ta 
ken  iy  the  Townc  again  ft  it  J  frould  never  move  it,cr  re 
move  it.  Was  cot  this  faire  leave  think  you,  to  make  a 
trinlljhow  fane  the  people  would  be  pleafed  with  the 
altcration,and  whether  they  would  think  it  tended  to 
(n)  decency  andcomlineffcinthe  officiating  of  CodsDi- 
•pitdcctaty  end  vine  fcrvicc ;  And  on  this  leave  the  table  was  rcmo- 
cousiincte,  &c.  vct]  to  tjlc  ,thar  placc&nd  flood  fo,til  the  Alderman, 
(°)4  difcrcct  and  modcft  man^and  far  from  any  humour  of 
Innovation y  did  by  farre  Icfle authority  bring  it  down 
againCj  and  was  never  checked  for  it.  Nor  can  you 
fay ,  that  the  word  At/?  there  mentioned,  (  when  1  [pake 
with  you  la  ft )  is  to  relate  unto  that  time,  when  the  Vi 
car  and  the  Alderman  cncountred  at  his  Lord'fhips 
houfe:Becaule  it  follows  in  the  nextwords,/^*/  which 
2  did  net  then  fu/l'ccf^  is  tome  top.i(fc  ;  viz.  the  ^dldcr- 
mantfid  better  fort  of  the  toivnc  have  complained  againjl 
it.  The  conference  then  meant,,  wherein  his  Lord- 
fliip  Viewed  himfclfe  fo  indifferent  in  the  bufineflc 
propofed  unto  him,  imift  needs  precede  the  Vicars 
aclion  ;  as  did  the  Vicars  action  the  Aldcrmaus  riot  5 
the  Aldcrmans  riot,the  complaintjand  tlic  complaint, 
that  fuddca  and  tumultuary  journey  to  his  Lordfliips 
houfe,  which  drew  out  the  learned  letter  now  be- 
tweenc  us.  And  fo  your  firfl  report  of  the  half-Vtcars 
liafty  running,  before  hec  was  fent,  is,  for  the  truth 
thereof  difproved,  or  made  very  difputable.  Thco- 
thcr  branch  thereof,  pouching  thc/?«w  Altar  that  you 
tilkc  of,  is  fane  more  improbable  5  and  you  arc  faine 

to 


. 


to  chop  &  charfge  the  Bifliops  letter  to  make  it  good,  Capl  I. 
and  yet  .cannot  doc  it.  For  whereas  it  wss  charged 
upon  the  Vicar  in  t  he  tf.  S,  Copies,  thr.t  heefliCHila&'c 
y£  violent  anflearntft  for  an  //tar, it  the  upper  end  of  the 
J^ifre .-  you  have  it  in  the  printed  letter,  thr.t  he/kotilJ 
fay  heewiuletupon  his  owns  cojl  btt;i;lw\  Altar  of  ftonc 
At  the  uf per  end  of  his  ^Wrr:  which  is  too  great  a  diffe 
rence  to  he  an  crrour  in  the  tranfcripts.  Secondly,  in 
(lead  of  that  oblation  which  the  Prills  were  next  ft  offer 
upon  their  t^//«r/,you  now  have  made  it  th.it  oblation 
which  the  Papifis  were  wont  to  offer  upon  tbffc  ^iltars : 
end  fo  by  changing  thefc  to  theirs,  have  turned  a  Pro- 
tcflant  Tulle  to  a  I'tptjh  ^ItAr.    Thirdly  snd  laftly, 
whereas  the  fir  ft  feaion  jr.  the  written  copies,conclu- 
dedthus,/^rf/brc  /  knew  yon  w;!lr,ci  change  A  tdllcin- 
to  an  Altar  .•  you  hjvc  converted  it  to  this,  therefore  I 
knowyiu  will  not  build  any  foch  s.lt»r ;  As  creit  an  al 
teration  in  the  bufinefTe,cs  the  words  themfelves.  For 
had  that  bccnc  the  bulincflcthen  in  agitation,  and  not 
the  placing  of  the  Table  otf/A>r-ip/'/;,  his  Lordfliip 
might  have  gone  to  bed  that  night/  as  indeed  hcdid)  . 
&  ended  all  his  Utter  with  the  h'rft  icflion  ;  Ix  ing  but 
2  4.  lines  in  your  own  printed  Copy,  and  that  corrup* 
ted  too  to  ierveyour  turnc :  whereas  there  is  a  lanjc 
difcourfc  againft  the  placing  of  the  Table  filter -wife, 
-mounting  to  above  two  leaves  in  your  own  Edition. 
I  trow  the  writer  of  rhe  letter  was  too  good  an  Artl- 
%an,iwt*><x*fttyn  jw/f.^to  fpcnd  himfeifnpon  theacccf- 
lary,  and  It  t  the  principal!  be  the  le.1  ft  part  of  his  ca  re 
andftudy.-efpecially  confidcring  how  he  might  tlirre- 
by  gratific  the  whole  townc  of  Gram  bam,  to  which  he 
had  beenc  fuch  nfriend^whtn  he  w.ts  in  yUcc. 
As  little  truth  there  is  in  your  inventio  of  the  drefrcr^ 

which  • 


oo 

Seel;,  i.     which  you  hive  turned  upon  the  rudtfe^lt  „• 

ones  indeed,  to  give  fe  vilcandfcandalousanamcto 
a  thing  fo  facreci,  in  whatfoevcr  pofture  it  was  placed 
orfituated.  What  is  it,  Ibcfeechyou,  thatyou  have 
made  the  people  fay  ?  that  he(  the  Vicar,)  fhoutdfct  np 
no  drcffcrs  of  jlonc  in  their  Church .   Drfffers  ofjlone  ? 
It  fcemcs  tiic  people  were  as  rude  as  you  dcfcribc 
them  j  fo  little  converfant  in  matters  which  concer 
ned  the  Church,  that  they  were  yet  to  fecke  in  things 
which  did  concernc  the  kitchin.  Had  the  ^//rr«f  ///- 
dermtn  no  more  difcrerion,  than  to  informchis  LP. 
of  fo  rudt  a  fpeech  j  and  tell  him  in  his  care  a  ftory  of 
4  Jl*»e.JreffcrjNhcn  as  he  might  as  well  have  told  him 
a  tale  of  a  Tubb  i  Had  the  rude  feoplc^  as  you  call 
them,  applied  the  name  of  dreffer  unto  ti\c  holy  Table 
placed  along  the  wall,  the  fpeech  hadbccnc  more 
proper,  though  not  IciTc  prophane.  But  now  to  put 
the  name  of  drcfferofftone  into  the  mouthes  of  Coun- 
trey  people,  who  never  heard  of  any  fuch  thing  asa 
drefferofjlonc :  fhewcs  plainly,  that  neither  any  Altar 
tfjlenc  was  ever  purpofed  by  the  Vicar,  which  might 
occafion  fuch  an  idle  and  abfurd  cxpreflfion  j  northat 
the  writer  of  the  letter  tookc  up  thenamcof^jf/fr 
from  the  Countrcy  people,  but  firft  invented  it  him- 
fclfc.  i^ddto  njcndacierum  nature  (ft,  ut  cehtrcrc  nen 
po/tnt,  Hiid  LtciAntifts  rightly.  Yourmyfc,  and  your 
drtffer  then,  may  both  goc  together,,  ttltraanni  foliffe 
WAS,  to  your  dearc  brethren  in  New  Engl.  and  their 
great  Patriarkc  there,  your  good  friend  /.  C.  who  as 
they  care  not  now  in  'what  place  they  difpofc  of  the 
holy  table  5  fo  will  they  care  as  little,  in  a  little  while, 
by  what  name  they  call  it.  Of  the  fame  peece  is  that 
laftobfcmtion  nwdc  out  of  Mr.  ^Idcrmw  letter, 

touching 


:^-l 


touching  the  Vicars  light  bcbwiour,  in  bowing  At  the 
nameefjcCus:  hisbooke  fomctimes  f Ailing  downe,  and 
cnce  himfelfe.  Which  were  it  fo,  why  doc  ybuthinkc 
that  that  fliould  make  your  friends  of  Grant  f^tm  deride 
the  ceremony,  when  not  the  ceremony,  but  the  Vicar 
wasin  fault,  if  fuch  fault  there  was,  Have  you  not 
feenc  fomemen  behave  themfclvcsfo  apiilily  in  the 
Pulpit,thatothers,and  thofe  good  men  to®,h;ive  fmi- 
led  to  note  it?  And  yet  I  hope  you  will  not  thinke, 
that  therefore  they  derided  that  religious  Ordinance 
of  preaching,  when  not  the  Ordinance,  but  the  Prc.i- 
chcr  was  the  fole  object  of  the  merriment.  Or  if  the 
men  of  Gr.  or  rather  the  rude  people  there,  were  fo 
profane  and  impious,  as  upon  that  or  any  other  fuch 
occafion  to  deride  theccremony  ,thc  wrkcr  of  the  let 
ter  might  have  fpent  his  pains  to  better  purpofe,(')/>;  .., 

writingto  the  fentewbatmorc  at  Urge,  than  be  hdth  nfed  ttn.  fo)°" 
to  fxp&Jfe  himfdfe  in  that  /r/W,to  bring  them  to  a  bet-  "u^c^l.  let, 
ter  underftanding  of  their  Chriftian  duties.  And  you,  pas-ij. 
the  Champion  of  the  letter,  had  done  a  better  office,  as 
I  conceive  it,  to  have  referved  your  fclfe  for  the  de 
fence  of  that,  and  the  tenor  of  it,  if  any  Puritan  in  the 
pack  fliould  have  writ  againft  it,  than  thus  to  have  dif- 
turbed  your  fclfe  with  fo  little  profit.   But  what  if 
wee  joyne  ifllie  with  an  (()  ^ilfant  hoc,  and  tell  you  (ONfgatiom's 
there  was  no  fuch  falling,  cither  of  the  bookc,  or  nun,  formula  ,q(ia  in 
asyouplcafetofay.  For  tell  mce  of  al  1  jovcs,  where  R^Atori* 
was  it,  in  the  Reading  pew,  or  at  the  Communion  aflcmonc m  in« 
Table,  or  in  what  place  elfe  i   If  in  the  Reading  pc\v,  £™ur-  s!tlm- 
the  dcske  and  feat  were  able  to  hare  faved  them  both 
from  foiling ;  and  fo  was  the  Communion  table,  if  it 
had  beene  there  '.  If  not  there,fay  man,wherc  it  was, 
and  wee  will  have  a  mtlw inquirtfldttm  about  it  pre- 

D  fently. 


Sc&.  i.  fcntly.  Thisisatvickof  yours  to  difgracc  the  Vicar, 
on  whom  clfcwhcrc  you  have  left  a  ftaine,  for  taking 
hi*  mornings  dr aught  before  he  went  about  it  ,p. 62.  As  if 

WP'g.*-          tne  man  5 not  Onc^y  wcre  not  Always  right  (<)  in  th^j 
(uyroat'quiT-    hcad-fcece,  and  (u)  fquirrcll-ptitcd ,  which  might  be 
""•'  bc*<t:it  :.oun*  f0me  infirmity  of  nature  :  but  that  hee  came  uoto  the 
Church,  difordered  with  drinkc,and  inter  focal*  told 
the  people,  qtiiddiApoematti  n.irrtnt  of  the  name  of 
JESUS,  and  hfelldownt  and  rvtrfhipfesl,  inftcad  ef 
bowing. 

In  the  remainder  of  the  ftorie,you  put  an  excellent 
fpeech  into  the  mouthes  ofthofc  vtCratithaw,  partly 
commendatory  of  thcmfelvcsi,  thst  they  were  all 
(0  p»s-!-       (*}-peaseal>lc  &  quiet  ww,(avethat  they  fought  (b)once 
ffill^'7.  inthcChurch,  about  removingoftlie table  ;  c»»ftr. 
p^j.«.    '       '  mablc  in  ak  things  to  the  Kings  Urves  ecclejiafticafljkvc 
that  they  could  not  but  Jeriac  the  ceremonie  of  bowing 
at  thcn&mcoflefuf  ;and  willing  ttfubmit  themfthes  t« 
any  Order  which  his  Lvjlieuld  jppoint ,  concerning  thf^t 
ftttiAtion  of  the  Lords  table  3fo  it  might  (fond  according 
as  they  would  them  feivcs.  And  it  was  alfo  partly  ac- 
cufatorie  of  their  Ft  car,  for  putting  down  tneirweck-. 
Jy  Le6iure,and  partly  of  their  owncill  fortune,  that 
they  fhould  live  in  the  vtidftofjltcufints,  who  did  be 
gin  Already  to  deride  and  jceretbis  new  alteration:  not 
without  fome  reflexion  on  his  facred  Majeftie,  for 
(,yr;*v  r?./«/c  («)  placing  over  them  a  chitfe  Governor  of  that  rcligi- 
on*  ^'s  ^a)c^^c  'vva8  muc^  to  blame,  there  is  no 
doubt  of  that,  fornot  confukingwhhthe./f/</a7ftf0 
about  the  fitteft  man  to  be  L*  Lieutenant  ofrlie  Coun 
ty  :  but  more ,  the  Papifts, to  deride  that  decencic  and 
fit  nation  of  the  Lords  boordc,  there,  which  they  ap- 
. prove  of  clfcwhcrc  in  all  our  Churches.  And  I  could 

tell 


09) 

tell  you,did  I  thinlce  you  would  thankcmeforif,th*t  Cap.  tl 
the  conformity  of  our  Church  in  this  particular,  ac 
cording  to  the  praftice  of  approved  Antiquity,  doth 
more  amaze  the  Papifts,  than  ever  it  did  thofe  of 
Grant  ham :  as  knowing  better  than  they  doe,  that  the 
more  nccrc  wee  come  to  the  ancient  practice ,  the- 
lefle  they  can  upbraid  us,  and  our  Church  with  no 
velty,  which  is  now  made  the  chicfefl  weapon  that 
they  fight  withall.  As  for  the  (d)  putting  downc  ofScr-  (»'•) 
«/«/r/,whcrcwith  they  were  mitchfcA»dAlizcd^  as  your 
book  informs  us,  that  was  the  very  marrow-bone  of 
the  matter,  the  thing  thatmoftdifplcafed  the  people, 
who  muft  have  Chaplaines  of  their  owne,  orclfe»00 
vultfac.  And  had  they  had  their  talc  of  Sermons,  ic 
may  bee  probably  conjectured,  that  Mr.  ^Alderman 
had  never  removed  thetabtc^  but  rather  left  it  for  a 
text,on  which  the  ftipcndaric  Le&urers,  there,  might 
fhew  their  ftore  of  zeale,  and  want  of  wifdome.  But 
to  goe  on.  The  people  having  ended,  and  the  Bifhop 
forward  in  his  fpcecli,  about  the  indiffcrcncic  of  the 
matter,  it  was  the  Vicars  Q^to  enter,  who  came  in 
(6)^<«/<r,  and  wnvne,  andj?rfr/'»^,  cbjlttpait,  ftctcrtntejitc  fe*  , 
comt,  as  you  know  who  faith,  was  by  the  Z>'//?;^  ufcd  ' 

with  all  lenity  and fvectntffc  :  andatlafts  having  told 
his  LP  (bcing(f)vcry  etrneji  to  get  it  out  of  him)who  it 
was  that  (ft  him  on  thefe  alterations,  his  LP  fpake  aloud 
that  all  might  hcnre  him  ,  that  hc  Mfrftd,,  tha, 
wfnch  the  Vicar  told  him.  It  is  an  old  fayingand  a  true, 
aHdaftcr  talnmniare,  neceffcejtut  alt  quid  hxreat ;  by 
none  more  practiced  than  your  fclfe.  For  though 
you  leave  us  in  a  wood  ,  and  tell  us,  that  (3)  it  is  not  (E)  p.,g.  9 
knowncf  articular lj ,  rvhnt  they  there  difconrfctl of :  yet 
by  this  blindc  diicovcry  you  make  men  iufpcd,  that 

D  2  foine 


: 


Sc&.  I. 


)  pjg.»i. 


CO  *M* 


(20) 

fome  great  man,  to  whom  the  Vicar  did  rctaine,  in- 
couraged  him,  at  the  leaft,  to  erect  an  <^f/tar,\f  not  to 
fay  M ifle  on  it,  when  it  was  erected.  Well  then, the 
Bifhop5being  gone,  betakes  himfclfc  unto  his  ftudy, 
whercf  as  you  fay  )he  fat  up  mojl  of  the  ntght^nd  in  the 
morning  (as  you  tell  us)camc  abroad  this('>)  fit  A  unites 
roflh,  this  letter  to  the  Vicar,  which  is  now  in  qucfti- 
on,  addreffcdunto  the  Vicar,bcing  then  in  the  houfe 
( if  youtcll  us  right )  but  ( » )  fent'/o  the  Divines  of  the 
Lecture  of  Gr.  and  by  themfhtwed  unto  the  Vicar.  > 
A  letter  of  fo  It  range  a  making,  thatit  wouldpuzzlc 
the  bcft  Lecturer  there,  to  tell  exactly  what  it  wasj 
(k)  digejlcdin  the  former  part  int*  the  fa/hion  of  a  letter  > 
but  ntt  fo  ftgtiredly  dnddiftintfly  in  the  latter  :  directed 
tone  lody^  nor  fubfcnbed  by  any  body  .In  al  1  w  hich  (to- 
ry,  there  is  nothing  true,  butthat  the  papers  were  not 
lent  unto  the  Vicar,  but  to  foine  one  or  other  of  your 
frivacbs  about  thofc  p;u  ts,the  better  to  clifpcrfe  it  up 
and  downc  the  Ceuntrcy  :and  that  not  on  the  mor 
row  morning,  but  fome  ten  dayes  after.    For  that  it 
was  directed  to  the  Vicar, the  whole  proeme  fhewcs, 
which  could  not  be  applied  unto  any  other ;  cfpecial- 
ly  thefe  Words,  New  f*r  your  orvne  Jati.fctfio*,  and  my 
peore  advice  for  the  future,  I  have  written  twtoyeufomt- ' 
vtbM  more  At  iirge,  &c. 

That  it  was  falhioned  like  a  letter  in  the  latter  end, 
the  conclufion  flicwcs,  even  in  your  owns  edition  of 
it,  ll'hich  I  recommend  unto  yott)  and  am  evcr^c.  And 
I  would  faincknow  what  thefc  words,4w  ever^did  re 
late  unto,  if  not  to  the  fubfcription  following,  which 
in  my  written  copy  was  fet  downc  thus  (although  not 
printed  with  the  reft )  and  Am  ever,  Your  very  loving 


To 


To  draw  unto  an  end  of  this  new-nothing,  you  tell 
us  confidently  (like  all  the  reft)  what  0)  fatisfatJion 
the  poorc  Vicar  had  by  this  <&«/?«»;  bavinggainedall 
f  A<?00/V;tt,yoil  fay,  cxccptingthe  forme  of  placing  thc_j> 
Table  >  which  was  the  onely  point  hee  ftoo  J  on  :  and 
that  the  Vicar  after  this  did  reap  much  jrnit  and  profit 
front  his  Lordfiips  favour ,  from  whom  lice  never  re 
ceived  any  favour,  from  that  time  forwards.  So  fine  a 
ftorichavc  you  told,  and  fo  little  probable,  that  they 
that  dwell  farreoflf ,  and  arc  not  of  the  voUinage,  can 
take  you  tripping. 

Now  for  the  letter  it  fclfc,you  tell  us,thatit(m)v4- 
ricth  in  fome  places  in  matter  from  the  printed  Copic^  but 
little  in  forme.  Nothing  at  all  in  forme,  that  is  cer- 
taine,  but  much  in  matter :  fo  much  as  you  thought  fit 
to  alter  in  itsthe  better  to  fctoff  the  bufmeflfe,and  give 
afairefaceto  fo foulc  a  caufc.  Thofc  Copies  which 
I  met  with,  and  compared,  and  had  from  very  good 
hands  too  3  were  word  for  word  exemplified  in  the 
printed  booke.  And  ifyou  lookc  into  T>uck-hnc  for 
the  old  written  copies,  which, till  the  Doctors  booke 
came  out,  were  fold  for  halfcacrownca  peece,  and 
doubtleflc  may  be  had  there  ftill,  if  not  imploycd  to 
other  ufcs ;  you  will  find  no  fuch  variance  in  the  mat- 
tcr,  as  you  would  ncrfwade  us.Which  variancc,what 
his,  and  how  it  alters  in  a  manner, the  whole  flatc  of 
thequeftion,  wcefliall  fee  the  better,  by  placing  co- 
*  lumnc  wife  thofe  particular  pafifagcs,  in  which  the  va-, 
riance  doth  confift,  according  to  the  old  and  the  new 
edition,  as  hcreunder  followcth. 

D  3  Tht 


ThcM.  S.  Copie  printed        The  Copic  licenfed 
with  the  Coal  from  and  allowed  by 

the  Altar. 


PAge6%.  I  have,  Sec.        Pag.  12,1:,. ,v,. 

appointed  the  Church-  appointed  the  Church-rvar- 

wardens,  whomitprin-  dens,  whom,  in  my  opinion, 

cipally  doth  conccrne,  it  principally  doth  conccrne, 

under  the  Diocefan,  to  under  the  Diocefan,  and  by 

fettle  it  for  this  time.  his  dircclions,?0/?///<r  it  for 

the  time . 

doe  the  reverence  ap-  reverence  appointed  by  tht_> 

pointed  by  the  Canon  Canons  to  that  bleffed  name 

to  the  bleiTed  name  of  of  J  E  s  u  s,  fo  it  be  donc^> 

JESUS,  fo  it  be  done  humbly,  and  not  affeciedly, 

humbly  ,   and  not  affe-  to  procure  the  devotion,  and 

cledly,  to  procure  devo- ,  not  move  the  derifion  of  the 

tion,not  derifion  of  your  Parifiiwcrs^vho  are  not, it 

ParifHoners.  •  feemes,  all  of  a  pecce. 

fag. 69. But  that  you  P;ig.  13.    B tit  that  you 

mould  be  fo  violent  and  fiould  fay  ,  you  will  upon 

Cornell  for  an  Altar  ac  your  oxvnc  coft  build  an 

the  upper  end  of  the  Altar  of  ftone  at  the  upper 

Quire.  end  of -tour  Q'tirc. 

r_,  t  ^              t?*^— * 

/'.f^.tf^.That  the  fix-  Pag.  13.  That  the  fixing 

ing  thereof  in  the  Qiirc  thereof  in  the  Quire  is  fo  ca- 

is  Canonicall,and  that  it  tJonicall^that  it  ought  not  to 

ought  not  to  bee  reino-  be  removed  (upon  any  oc- 

ved  to  the  body  of  the  cafion)  to  tie  body  oftb<^> 

Church.  Church. 

69.  That  other  Pag.  i^That  other obU- 

tion 


The  hew  Edition. 
tion  which  the  Papijls  were 
w»nt  to  offer  upon  thcfe  Al- 
tars  ,  ft  a  bLifthcrnow  fg- 
ment,&c. 

Pag.  14.  It  u  not  thc^> 
Vic  At)  but  the  Church-war- 
dens  that  are  t»  frovidz_j 
\lcnb\sforthtCommttnion. 


7  knew  you.  will  wt  build 
any  fuch  Altar,  which  ri- 
CAYS  never  were  enabled  to 
fctup,&c; 

Pag.  1  5.  Forbeftdcsth.it 
the  country  people  without 
fomedire&ios  beforehand 
from  their  Super  iors,nw//df 
(as  they  told  you  to  your 
facc}fnppofe  them  dreffers^ 
rdther  than  tables. 

Pag.  15.  Notwherethz_j 
Alur^  but  where  the  Jiffs  to 
the  Altar  formerly  fttod. 


their  covers,  fronts,  wdo- 
thcr  Ornaments,  tables  may 
be  placed  in  their  roome. 

Pag.i6.  ^inditfcemes 
the  gueene  and  her  Coun- 


Tbt  old  Edition. 

oblation  which  the  Pa- 
pifts  were  wont  to  offer 
upon  their  Altars  ,  is  a 
blafphemous  figment  , 
Cx:c. 

rag.tig.  Ir  is  not  the 
Vicar  ,  but  the  Churcli- 
waidens,thataretopro- 
vide  for  the  Connuuon. 

Ptg.yo.  And  there. 
fore  I  know  you  will  not 
change  a  table  into  ;m 
Altar,  which  Vicars  ne- 
vcrwere  enabled  tofet 
up,  &c. 

Ptg.ji.  Torbefides 
that  the  Country  people 
would  fuppofc  them 
drcflcrs,  rather  thanta- 
bles. 


^£.71.  Not  where 
the  Altar,but  where  the 
fleps  of  the  Altar  for 
merly  flood. 

Fag.^^.  Or  to  make 
ufc  of  their  Covers  and 
ornaments,  tables  may 
be  placed  in  their  room. 

P^.ya.  Anditfecms 
the  Queens  Commiflio- 
D4  ncrs 


.  I. 


"T 

Jt  1  be  old  Edition. 

ners  were  content  they 
fliould  (land. 

flee  of' the  Altar  nbolifli- 
ed,thefc(c\ill  them  what 
you  will )  are  no  more 
Altars,  but  tables  of 
(tone  and  timber. 

p*£-73'  Whcrerhcrc 
are  no  people  fo  void  of 
underftandin*. 

O 

**&•!  3  •  For  upon  the 
Orders  of  breaking 
downeAltars,  allDio- 
cefcs  did  agree  upon  re 
ceiving  Tables,  but  not 
upon  the  faflnon  and 
forme  of  the  tables. 


T lie  new  Edition. 
fell  were  content  they  fiould 


73.  A  Table  in 
regard  of  wlu;t  is  there 
participated  by  men. 

r>ig  .73.  Fo  r  i  t  a  11  fwers 
that  very  objection'  out 
of  Hcb.  1 3. 10. 

Pag.  74.  We  have  no 
Altar  in  regard  of  an  ob 
lation  ,  but  we  Iravc  an 
Altar  in  regard  of  parti 
cipation  &  communion 
granted  unto  us. 


Pag.  1 6.  The  facrifice  of 
the  <J\laffc  abolifled  (for 
which  fii.crin'ce  oncly  Al- 
tars  were  creeled)  thcf<^ 
(call  them  what  jcit pleafc) 
are  no  more  si  I  tars,  but  ta 
bles  of  ft  one  or  timber. 

Pag.  1 6.  11 'here  there  are 
r.o  people  fo  'void  of  inftru- 
ttion. 

Pag .  1 6 .  For  upon  t/jc_j 
Orders  of  breaking  dcivne^j 

as  well  as  that  of  London, 
did  agree  upon  receiving 
Talk's,  but  f.'ot  fo  foone///>- 
on  the  forme  and  fafiion  of 
their  tables. 

Pag.  1 6»  ex/  table  in  re 
gard  of  what  U  thence  par- 
ticipatedby  men. 

Pag.  17.,  For  it  an  fivers 
that  merry  obj(fiio/t  out  of 


Pag.  17.  Wee  have  n$ 
4ltar  in  regard  of  an  cb* 
lation,bnt  we  have  an  Altar, 
that  is  a  table,/;;  regard  oft 
participation  And  communi 
on  \\\QK granted  unto  tu. 

Pag.  1 7. 


The  new  Edition. 

Pag.  1 7.  The  proper  ujc 
of  an  Altar  is  tofacrifict_j 
ttpon^  and  the  proper  ufe  of 
A  tablets  tocatcupon.  llea- 
fons,  &c.  1550.  videAcls 
&  Monuments,  pag.  1211. 

Pag.  1 7 .  The  Church  in 
herLitnrgie  and  Canons  cal 
ling  the  fame  a,  Table  oncly, 
do  not  you  now,  under  the 
Reformation*//  lt&n<  iltar. 

Pag.  17.  In  King  Ed 
wards  Littirgie  cfi  545?.  it 
#almoft  every  where  called 


Tie  eld  Edition. 
/).^.74.Thc  ufc  of  an 
Altar  is  to  facririce  up- 
on,nnd  the  ufc  of  a  table 
is  tocateupon. 


I. 


an 


Pag.  17.  The  people  be. 
ingfcandalized  herewith  in 
Country  Churches ,  frft,  it 
ieemeSj  beat  them  downe  de 
faclo;  then  the  fuprcmc  Ma- 
gijlratc  (ashcrc  the  King) 
by  the  advice  of  Archbi- 
ftop  Cramncr,  and  the  reft 
of  his  Counfell,  &\A*  Anno 
1 5  5  o  .by  a  kinde  of  Uw,  put 
^w^cjv»dejure,4.Ed.6. 
Novemb.24. 

Pag.  17.  i^f unfitting 
the (c  tables  in  their  rootnes, 
tooke  away  front  usjhc  chil 
dren  0/this  Church  &  Com- 
won.wcdthjbeth  the 


,4.  The  Church 
in  her  Liturgicand  Ca 
nons  calling  the  fame  a 
table  oncly,  do  not  you 
call  it  an  Altar. 

Pag.  74.  In  King  Ed 
wards  Liturgieof  1 549. 
it  is  every  where  called 
an  Altar. 

P*g»  74.  The  people 
being  fcandalized  here 
with  in  Country  Chur 
ches,  firft  beats  them 
do\\rnedef*™o,  then  the 
fupremc  Ma  gift  rates  ,by 
a  kind  of  law,  puts  them 
dovfnctlfjtirc. 


j.  74.  And  fating 
tables  in  their  roomes, 
tookc  fromu-,  the  chil 
dren  the  Church  and 
Common-wealth,  both 
the 


.  1  he  old  Edition. 
the  name  and  the  nature 
of  former  Altars. 

•^£.75.  If  is  in  tnc 
Chriftian  Church  200. 
years  more  ancient  than 
the  name  of  an  Altar,  as 
you  may  fee  moft  lear 
nedly  proved  out  of  S. 

FauL  Driven*  and  Arxo- 

«          i 
tout ,  if  you  but  rcade  a 

booke  that  is  in  your 
Church. 

Pag.  j6.  That  your 
Table  mould  (land  in 
the  higher  part  oi  the 
Church  5  you  have  my 
affent  already  in  opini 
on  :  but  that  it  mould  be 
there  fixed,is  fo  far  from 
being  Canonical], that  it 
is  dircclly  againft  the 
Canon. 


Pag.'jj.  This  table 
muft  not  ftand  Altar- 
wife,&youat  theNorth 
end  thereof ,  but  table- 
wife,  and  .you  muft  offi« 


Th4  new  Edition.' 
And  the  nature  of  thofe  for 
mer  Altars. 

Pag .  1 8 .  //  if  in  the  Chri- 
Jiian  Church  at  the  lead 
200.  ye  ares  more  ancient 
than  the  name  of  an  Altar 
in  that  fenfe,  ttyott  may  fee 
mojl  learnedly  f  roved  (bc- 
fide  what  we  learnc  out  of 
S.  Fanl}ont  0/Origcn  and 
Arnobius  ,  if  you  doc  but 
reade  a  betke  that  is  in  th<Ls 
Church. 

Pag .  1 8 ,  1 9 .  That  your 
table  jhould  ftand  in  thz_s 
higher  fart  of  the  Chancel, 
you  have  my  ajfent  in  opini 
on  already  :  And  fo  it  was 
appointed  to  ftand  out  of 
.  the  Communion  orders 
by  the  Commiflioncrs  for 
caufcs  Ecclefiaftical.  1 561 , 
/>«/  that  it  fiould  be  thereat 
fixed, Is  fo  far  front  being  the 
onc\y  Canonical!  wa.y^  that 
it  is  directly  againft  the  CA* 
no>j. 

Pzg.2o.Tbis  table  (rvith- 
out  Ibme  new  Canon)  is 
not  to  ftand  i^4ltarrvifL~>9 
and  you  at  the  North  end 
thereof-,  bat  table-wife,  and 
yttt 


The  new  Edition.  The  eld  Edition. 

#/?  officiate  on  tle^j  ciate  at  the  North  end 

North  fide  of  the  fame  ,  by  of  the  fame. 
the  Liturgic. 

Pag.  20.  ^nd  therefore  7V£.  78.  Andtherc- 

yonr  Parishioners  muft  bc_j  fore  your  Parifhioncrs 

Judges  of  your  Audtbleneffe  muft  be  Judges  of  your 

in  this  cafe,  and  upon  com-  nudiblenefTc  in  this  cafe. 
plaintto  thcOrdinary  muft 
be  relieved. 

Thus  have  I  (hewed  in  briefe  your  fft^/Mtm,  your 
tricks  and  artifices,  whereby  you  fcckc  to  varniflia 
rotten  caufc  :  falfifyingthe  very  Text  which  you  are 
to  comment  on,  that  it  may  fit  your  notes  the  better. 
A  pregnant  evidence  that  there  is  no  faire  dealing  to 
be  looked  for  from  yoUj  when  you  fliall  come  either 
to  rcpcate  your  advcrfaries  words,  or  cite  your  Au 
thors.  But  fairc  or  foule,  we  muft  goc  through  with 
you  now  we  have  begun  :and  fo  on  in  Gods  name. 


CHAP.  II. 

OfthcRcgall  power  in  matters  Ecclefiafticall, 
and  whether  it  was  ever  exercifed  in  fetlins 

^^ 

the  Communion  table  in  forme  ot  an  Altar. 

The  Vftlne  Ambition  of  the  Minifter  of  Line:  to  be  thought* 
Roytlift.  HH  prattice  contrary  to  his  {peculations.  TheDoflor 
tlearedfrom  the  five  Cavils  of  the  Minitter  of  Line:  touching  the 
Stat.i.Eliz.  The  Minifter  ofLincifalfifietbfotbtke  Dottort 
dt)  and  the  Lo;  CkAncclloar  Egcrtons.  The  Puritans  more 

beholding 


• 


$C/l,  j  f"  beholding  to  hivt  tfiMt  the  Kin*.  The  Miniftcr  of  Line:  mifrefor. 
tetb  the  Doflors  vrordsjucly  to  picket  fjttttrrett  with  bis  Mtjeftiet 
Cb*pp:!l.  Afecond  oo-fet  on  the  Chjppe!l,grounded  upon  Another 
fjlfification  efthe  Doctors  words. Of  mother  Chappcls,T6f /?<y. 
aft  Chappell  hstv  it  may  befnid  to  interpret  Kubricks.  The  Mini- 
fler  of  Line.'  quarrels  with  tOueen  Elizabeths  Chappell',  And  for 
tbatp',trpo(efti!fifieth  both  hisfvrraine  .•nthcrs>Anddcmeftick^e'vi- 
dences.  Not  l^ffping^itt  adoring  images,  enquired  into  in  thefirft 
yeere  of  Qyecnc  Elizabah.Ttaf  by  the  tQuee»s  lnjnnttionstOr- 
:  den  And  Advertisements^  thf  Table  TVM  tofltnd  where  the  Altar 
did.  The  i.ile  anfiver  of  r/;#  Minifter  of'Linc-./fl  tht  Doftort  Argtt~ 
mint.  Aharsc^Pit;con-houresrt//-*//^r,»'/>^^//Linc:Mimfter. 
The  Minirter  ofL\ncif*//i  and  faulty  argument  tdr*ivn  fern  the 
pcrufcrsoftheLicurgic,  tht  troubles  *t  l:ranckforc,  and  Miles 
Huggirds  ttftimoHj.  Offl^ndin^ettthe  North. fide  of  tbeTable. 
The  Miniftcr  of  Line:  producetk  the  pontificall  tgatnft  himfelfo. 
His  idle  cavdt  with  the  Doftor  touching  tht  Latine  tr/tnjlatf«a 
of  the  Common-pray  erBookSThe  Parliament  determined  nathing 
concerning  taking  aoivn  of  Altars.  The  meaning  dnd intention  of 
th.it  Kubrick.  The  Minillcr  of  Linci p.i/rers  with  his  Aftjefties 
Declaration  about  ^.Gregories.  is4 copy  ofthefDeclar*tion.Tbe 
futnme  Andfnl>ftf.nce  of  the  DiclarAtion.RegAll  decifitns  in  parti* 
cuUr  cafes 3  ofnhat  pontr  and  efficacy. 


the  one  a  lover  of  Alexander,  the  other 

3n u  '3  Hcpbefitn  loved  his  pcrfon,  as  a  private 

friend  5  Cratcrw  his  cftate  and  Monarchy,  as  a  pub- 
liqueMinifter.  Princes  are  then  beft  fcrved  ,  when 
thcfeaflcdions  meet  together; when  thofe  that  either 
r.rc  about  their  peiTons,  or  under  their  dominions, 
(bj  doe  Crater  urn  cum  Hcpheftioneco}jfttndere.)m&  love 
them  not  alone  as  men,  but  Princes,  whom  they  doe 
mod  truely  love.  Both  of  thefc  parts  this  Seme-body, 

whom 


whom  I  am  to  clealc  with,  would  faine  fccmtf  to  aft :  Cap^  2! 
and  he  doth  a&  them  rightly ,as  a  player  doth , in  a  dif- 
guifc  or  borrowed  fliape,  which  hee  can  put  off  when 
nelifts,6c  the  play  be  ended.  But  ytt  for  all  his  vizard 
it  is.no  hard  matter  to  difcerne  him,  his  left  hand  pul 
ling  downe,  what  his  right  hand  buildeth ;  all  that  au 
thority  and  regard  r.  hich  he  beftowed  upon  the  King 
in  the  fpeculation,  being  gone  in  ftiwo,  as  they  fay, 
when  it  mould  be  reduced  to  praftife.  Of  the  origi- 
nall  of 'the  Kr.g&ll power,  you  tell  us  very  rightly  that  ir 
is  from  God,  that  the  Kings  ( «)of  £»£/«w/havc  had  (^.15.3*, 
the  flown  of  Ecclcfiaficall  \nrisdntion,  flitch  in  their 
Imterull  garlands  Jay  the  finger  if  Almighty  God  from 
the  very  beginning  if  this  Chrtflian  CMonarchy  within 
this  Ifland  j  and  that  the  Kings  Majejfy  may  commando. 
gr(4ter  matter  ffthif  vatitre,  than  that  the  holy  Table 
fituld  bee plascd  where  the  <Jdltar flood.  An  excellent 
RoyAllift  verily  in  your Jpfcidations. But  look  upon  you 
in  yourpratftcks,  &  then  you  tell  us  in  your  cor  reeled 
copy  of  the  liifliops  letter,  that  the  T*ble(wilhcut  fome 
wwCanon}is nottofland  Altar-wife;  which  isdircdly 
contrary  to  that  before.  I  trow  you  are  not  ignorant 
that  the  Church  makes  Cations.lt  is  the  work  cf  Clergy 
rneain  their  Convocations,  having  his  Majefties  leave 
for  theirconvcening,antl  approbation  ofthcir  doings. 
His  Majcfty  in  the  Declaration  before  the  Articles  hath 
refolved  ir  fo  j  and  the  late  praclitc  in  King  lames  his 
raignc,  what  time  the  Book  of  Canons  was  compofcd 
in  the  Convocation,  hatlu'cclarcd  fotoo.  If  then  the 
Table  may  not  bee  removed  nnd  placed  ^Itar-wife^ 
without  fome  new  Canon ;  His  Majefty  may  com 
mand  it,  for  ought  I  fee  by  you,  and  yet  goe  without, 
tillheisauhouzedtodoeit  by  fopie  jtwCawa.  Or  if 

you  • 


ii     you  mcdne  that  any  order  from  his  Majeftic,  or  inti 
mation  of  his  pleafure,  mall  be  as  forcible  with  you, 
ns  any  Canon  of  them  all  ;  why  doe  you  fo  much 
flight  his  MajtfHcs  Declaration  about  S.  Gregorics  ? 
For  neither  can  the  man  indure  it  Ihould  be  called  an 
\^iQefCou»fellt  (which  yet  the  Doctor  never  calls  it, 
to  his  belt  remembrance  ,  )   or  that  it  fliould  have 
any  influence  beyond  that  one  particular  cafe,  which 
firft  occafioned  it:  in  no  rcfpccl  that  it  mould  have  the 
operation  of  Canon.,  cither  to  force  obedience,  or  in- 
duce  conformity.  So  that  in  fine,  you  dealc  no  other-  " 
wife  with  his  Majcfty,than  didPtpiliutLc»ja  with  the 
.  ti.  grcatKing(d)  dtitiiehttt^Hi  rege  circumfcripft  virgnla, 
as  the  ft  one  hath  it.  You  draw  a  ring  about  him  with 
your  willow  fcepter,  as  if  you  meant  to  conjure  him 
into  a  circle,and  fokeepe  him  there.  Thus  deale  you 
alfo  with  his  perfon,  (for  you  would  very  faine  be 
taken  for  Hcphefion,  as  well  as  Craterus.)  You  tell  us 
CO  PaS  -J>-       of  c  his  heavenly  exprefiws  iifed  iniliatDeclaration  be 
fore  rcmembred  5  and  yet  think  {corn  to  follow  what 
he  there  allowes  of  :  talke  of  his  (f)  fared  Cbappcff, 
and  the  Saint  of  that  Cbappe/l  ;  and  in  the  fame  breath 
tell  us,  that  PArifl)  -Churches  are  as  little  bound  to  imi 
tate  tit  forme  andpattcrne  of  the  one,  as  you  conceive 
your  fclfe  obliged  to  imitate  the  piety  and  true  devo 
tion  of  theothcr.  Stint  of  the  Chippell  !  Lord  how  the 
man  beflowes  his  holy  waiter  ^  when  he  hath  a  mind  to 
t'g)Vir.  j-ncicL  it.   (s)  Spargcrc  rare  Icvi  &  ramo  f  elicit  olivie,  Lnftra- 
vit/jHC  -viros^  in  the  Poets  language.  Yet  no  fuch  Saint, 
I  trow,  as  FtrdinanAothc  third,  of  whom  you  fay 
cVfa-    both  in  (h)  the  text  ,  .and  in  your  margin,,  that  in  bis 
mts,  nccpcilis  [Ong  raignc  of  ^  .  yecres,  thcrew*s  no  touch  of  hunger  or 
fuo  pa"!  J°     tonttgitn.  There  was  a  Saint  indeed,  fit  to  be  ftiewne 

unto 


(Op3S-33- 


air 

unto  the  world,  as  a  publikc  bleffing :  in  reference  to  C3.p^  2* 
whom,  and  his  moft  fortunate  Empire ,  thcrfc  wret 
ched  times  have  nothing  whereof  to  glorie.  Sir,  that 
Parenthffts  of  yours,asit  comes  in  impertinently,  fo  it 
lookes  fufpicioufly :  and  it  hadfhewne  more  wifdomc 
in  you  to  have  palled  it  by,  than  it  can  make  for  often- 
tation  of  your  reading,  fo  to  take  it  up. 

But  let  your^6?/Wgoe,  and  come  we  toyour^- 
fitlatitttsjn  which  you  havefaid  much,  and  produced 
good  proofs  ,  to  flit w  the  true originallot  the  right 
of  Kings,  0)  Vtinam  fie  fcmp  er  crraffet ,  faid  once  the 
learned  Cardi#*N,o{Calvitt.  It  had  been  well  if  you 
had  never  handled  any  other  argument.  Butgood  Sir, 
let  thepcort  man  live,  and  grow  up  under  you,  if  you 
pleafc ,  whom  you  expofe  fo  much  to  the  publick 
fcornw,  and  tAntum  ttea  enditc  of  treafon  againft  his 
Majcfty.  AiTuredly  the peort  foule  meant  well, when 
he  attempted  to  free  the  Statute  i  .of  Eliz.  from  fome, 
(pcrhaps^wf  ^Minijlers  of  Lincolnfoirc}  who  had  re- 
ftrained  it  to  the  perfon  of  the  guecnethtt.  was,  and 
thought  it  could  not  any  way  advantage  the/\'/>?£  that 
is.  Ifheehath  failed  in  any  thing,  I  pray  you  let  fiim 
have  your  pit-ty,and  not  your  anger.  Alas  goodSir,you 
Jcnowitisimpoflible(k;^w////Vo^y2-//f'»a,  that  wee 
fhould  all  of  us  be  experienced  Statefmen  at  the  firft 
dafli.  We  muft  firft  fcrve  our  timc,and  weare  out  our 
Indentures ,>  before  we  come  to  thofc  high  myftcries, 
which  any  fchoolcboy  might  have  taught  you  from 
C1)  his  Dew  &  Rex,  Thinkc  you  that  no  man  ever 
knew  till  you  found  it  out,that  Kings  had  their  autho 
rity  from  God  alone  ?  or  finde  you  any  thing  in  the 
Dodor,  which  affirmes  the  contrary  *  the  Dodor,  as 
before  was  faid,  thought  fit  to  cleere  the  Statute  i .  of 


I.      Eliz.  from  thofe  that  went  about  to  rcftraine  all  au 
thority  of  ordaining  rites  and  ceremonies  unto  the 
perfon  of  the  Qucene,  becaufe  there  is  no  mention  in 
that  claufc  of  her  heirs  andfncccfjers.  To  clcare  which 
point  he  brought  in  fixe  fcverall  Arguments,borrow- 
cd,  as  lice  tells  you  there,  loth  from  the  common  Law, 
andt/jeJitttfelfi.  Thefoure  firft, as  itfeemes,  you 
are  content  Ihould  ftand  without  further  cenfurejfavc 
that  you  tell  him  that  the  fourth  was  taught  him  by 
(n>;  At  titfc     foine  / m)  j(tilice  fr^  clerk^  and  make  your  fclfc  merry 
Pnfaintis          •  i    I    V,-        i  r      TT       •    m     1       i    ™       j      •    j    J 
M,*hitb(fn'  with  the  ntt  and  fixt.How  )ultly,let  thcRcader  judge, 

*d;.ntHit)  }M*  when  he  hearcsthe  bufindfc.  The  t]ucftionwas,whe- 
Might'ui!)^.  l^?cr  ^lc  K*nS  ^°'ft  anV  tmnS  °f  that  power  which  was 
p.iy.  acknowledged  by  that  Statute  to  be  inherent  in  the  • 

Qi^ccn  when  ilie  wi's  alive,  for  want  of  thefe  few  for- 
(")  cotkfnm    mall  words,  her  htirts  andftcceffors.  And  it  is  f11)  an- 
" '  fvvcrcd  fifily  from  a  refolution  in  the  law,  in  a  cafe 
"much  like  :  it  being  determined  by  that  great  Law* 
"yer  Ploy  don,  (for  fo  the  laft  edition  calls  him)  that 
",  if  a  man  qivc  lands  to  the  King  by  deed  inrollcd,  a 
"fee-ftMplt(lothp,i([c,  without  thefe  words  fttccejfors 
"  andhcyres,  becaufe  in  Judgement  of  Law  the  King 
"  never  dyeth.  This  is  an  argument  A  corner  at  if.  Ana 
what  fee  you  therein  with  your  Eagles  eyes,  ( the 
Doctor  being  but  a  blinker,  (°)  as  you  plcalc  to  ftylc 
him)  that  you  fliould  fall  upon  him  with  fuchfcornc 
and  laughter,  and  tell  him  that  hcc  doth  defcrve  but 
(f)4fimplefee9fffr  his  imp(rtinc»t  example  of  this  fee- 
ftmple.  The  Argument  was  good  to  the  point  in  hand, 
which  was  not  what  the  King  could  do  by  his  power 
0>7g7iM#9that  which  he  chimes  onely  from  the  King 
of  Kings,  which  was  never  queftioned :  but  how  far 
hcc  might  ufc  that  Statute,  ifoccaflon  were,  for  the 

ordaining 


03) 

ordaining  of  fuch  rites  and  ceremonies,  as  he  with  the  Cap, 
tdvicc  of  bit  Mctr9p9lit*n,(h.oM  thinkc  fit  to  publifh. 
You  may  call  in  your  laugh  ngain,for  ought  I  fee  yet : 
but  that  you  have  a  minde  to  fhcw  your  teeth,  though 
you  cannot  bite. 

But  his  0)  nextprank)  you  fay,  is  worfe,  where  hce 
affirmes,  (  moft  ignfrtrttly,  and  moft  derog&torily  to  his 
UWajefties  right  and  jtift  Prerogative  )  that  the  Statute 
I .  of Eliz.a  .TVM  A  confirmative  of  the  old  Uw  ;  whereas 
his  Authour  hath  it  rightly,*  ^tf  it  vat  not  a  Statute  in- 
trodntfory  of  a  new  law,  but  declaratory  of  the  old.  This 
is  the  hint  you  take  to  introduce  your  ftudicd  dif. 
courfcof  the  power  of  Kings  in  Eccleftafic^  which 
neither  is  tdrem,  nor  Rhowbum :  but  that  you  would 
doe  fomcwhat  faine  to  be  thought  a  Royalift ;  how 
ever  the  poor  people  take  it  to  be  fodcfcrtcd.  Vortell 
mce  in  good  earneft,  doth  the  Doclor  fay  that  the  Hud 
Statute  i  ,of  £//7.  wasoncly  cwfrnMtivetnnd  not  At. 
chrAtory  of  the  ola?  Doth  he  not  fay  cxpreflely,as  you 
would  have  him?  Laft  of  all ,(')( faith  hisbook)it  may 
"  bee  argued,  that  the  faid  claufe,or  any  thing  therein 
"contained,is  not  indeed  int  rodHfl  try  0 fatty  new  power • 
«'  which  was  not  in  the  Crown  be-fore,  but  rather  dc. 
"ctaratery  of  the  «/</,which  anciently  did  belong  to  all 
"  Chriflian  Kings,(as  before  any  of  them  to  the  kings 
c<  oflttdah  'and  amongft  others  to  ours  alfo.  If  after 
wards  he  ufc  the  word  confirmative,  you  might  have 
found  his  meaning  by  his  fir  ^Declaratory:  &not  have 
falneuponhimin  fo  fierce  a  manner,  as  if  he  had  been 
onely  tor  confirmative^  and  for  declaratory  not  one 
Word.But)'<?«r  next  frank  is  worfe  than  this,  where  you 
affirm  with  confidence  and  fcornc  enough,(f;that  this 
right  is  not  united  to  the  Crown  of  England  ently,  <ts  this 

E  fcribkr 


(34) 

firibler  feentes  to  conceive,  but  to  Mother 
Crcwuest  chalenged  by  all  Chnflian  Princes  according- 
(?.(')  Proh  dctim  atejue  hominum  fdem  \  that  ever  man 

1  MfM  i  I/i   t^»rlt#*^M^c    X^  I-\^ !  ^»  ^.  t  «> .  l^t*-  /^^..^  ,..!,„     L  1  _  l_ 


And™,  Aft.i.  fa\M  Writcthus,£  bclccvc  his  Creed,  in  that  which 
doth  relate  to  theday  of  Judgement.  For  fure  the  Do- 
dor  faith  as  much,  as  all  yourftudied  nothing  comes 

(u> CMftfrom     to,  that  the  faid  power  did(*-)*mitntli  belong  ( wh:it,to 

tht..tt*-3  ['.6o.  this  Crown  alone,as  you  make  him  fay?No,but)f«  all 

Chrtfian  Kir.gs^  (good  Sir  note  this  wcll)<w  before  any 

.  of  them  to  the  Kings  ofludah,  And  awongfl  others  to  ours 

alfo.  Not  unco  ours  alon?,  but  Amoxgetkcrs  to  ours  &l- 

Jo.  Or  if  this  yet  be  no  foulc  dealing,we  will  trieoncc 

(T^SJ.JI.  more.  You  tell  us,  with  great  joy  no  qucftion,(x)That 
tomaintdin  that  Kings  hwc  any  part  of  their  authority  by 
a»y  ft/it  we  Lw  of  nations, {AS  this  fcri  bUrficak  soft  j«* 
rifautiojvhich  either  i,<  or  enght  to  be  in  the  Crown  by  the 
Ancient  U\ves  of  the  Realm^  is  confirmed  by  i  .El.c.  I .-) 
isMcouKtcdby  that  great  ferfonage(\\\t  Ld  Chancellour 
l:.gcnon\\njfitrlioriofA  ircafonablt  nature  JUitby  your 
leave  a  li1  tie  Sir,tliat  p  ifr.i^e  of  a  \ttrt  (diet  ton  ^hich  ei 
ther  ii  or  ought  to  be  in  the  Croivne  bj  the  ancient  Lines  of 
theRctlmjs  not  cheDoCtors,but  Sir  Edwtrd  Cokes  £\\o. 
cited  from  him  who  you  have  honoured  with  the  title 
oi  a  deep  tcarricdMan  in  br*focitltyj;2 5  .affirming  there 
ihr.t  h.e  hath  ftatedthe  whole  qucftion  rightly  :  as  here, 
imm'.'.!iire)yo(ithe  recirall  of  the  words  before  rc- 
peatedj  you  lake  tzrcac  paines,  more  than  you  needed, 
to  give  his  words  a  fjire  con(1ru<ftion.  If  it  was  right 
ly  laid  by  Sir  Edw.Cokc,  why  not  by  the  Doctor  {  If 
no  fucli  treafonable  matte  r  in  the  one,  why  doe  you 
charge  it  on  theoulicr  t  This  is  the  thing  complained 

.(>)V*'l.Pat.l.i  of  in  the  Court- hiftorian :  (v)  Invidiamnonadcaiifam, 
fid  tid-volurttatctn  fcrfonaf^tic  dirigere.  But  yet  Gods 

blcffing 


"i  :'*,(  it* 


(35) 

blefling  on  your  heart  for  your  affecYion  to  Sir  Ed-  Cap, 
ward :  youdcale  with  him  farrc  better  nnd  more  ho- 
neftly,  than  with  your  Lords  great  Matter,  the  Lord 
Chancellour  Egerton :  whofe  words  you  chop  oft' 
with  an  hatcher,  as  if  you  wanted  patience  to  hearc 
him  out.  You  cite  him  in  your  marginethus:  Itw.tsne- 
vertaugbt  trttteitkerky  traytors,  (asin Spencers^;//  /'/; 
Edw.  2 .  timc^ )  or  by  treasonable  Papifts,  (as  Hording  in 
the  Confutation  of  the  stpolegyyh.it  kings  have  their  au 
thority  by  thefofitive  law.  Why  Iropyou  there  '.  why 
doe  you  not  goe  forwards  like  an  honeft'man  t  Have 
youafquinancieinyeurthroat,andc2nnotc'I  will  doc 
it  for  you.  Readeon  then,  (*)  "£y  tl>eftftivel*wtf 
"  nations,  Snd  have  no  more  power  than  the  people 
<{  hath,  of  whom  they  take  their  tcniporall  juri(.di<5ti- 
cc  on  j  and  fo  Ficlerus,  Simnnca^  and  others  of  that 
{<crew :  Or  by  (editious  Puritanes  and  Sectaries,  as 
•Cc  Buchanan  de  jure  rcgni  apudScotos,  Penry ,  Knox^  and 
ctfuch  like.  This  is  flat  felony,  bclccvc  mcc,  to  rob 
your  Readers  of  the  be  ft  part  of  all  the  bufmeflc.  For 
here  wchavetwo  things  which  arc  wortli  the  finding: 
Fir  ft  what  it  is,  which,  as  you  fay, is  by  that  honoura 
ble  perfonage  made  to  be  of  trcafonablc  nature:  viz. 
not  onely  to  maintaine  that  Kings  have  their  authori 
ty  by  thepofitivelawof  nations,  but  that  they  have 
no  more  power  than  the  people  hath.    Next,  who 
they  bee  that  teach  this  doctrine,  not  onely  Tray  tors, 
and  treafonable  ftfifls ,  as  you  make  him  fay,  but  alfo 
fcdttious  Sectaries  and  Puritanes ,  Buchanan^  Knox  and 
Penry,  and  fuch  like.  Nor  was  it  taught  by  them,  the 
leaders  onely,  but  as  it  followtth  in  that  place,  by 
thcfc^ndthtfc  that  are  their  fcllorvers^andof  their  faCtt- 
.en,  there  i-s  in  their  fAtnphlets  toe  much  Juch  trAyterons 

£  2  feed 


•  I      - 

(3*> 

t.  i.     £'/«mff.  The  Ptfr/V^  arCa  !  fcc  beholding  Co  xrow 
for  lending  them  fo  fine  a  cloakc  to  hide  their  Innl' 
ry.Andhereupon  I  willconr!,,^  K.          ?/.."% 


From  the  original!  and  fountaine  of  the  fovcMi«nC 
Tn  nuft  ncxt  fol'r  you  unto  d 

thereof.  And  here  you  askethc  quellion, 


placingthe  Communion  Table  W.^fi  TotWs 
you  anfwer  (for  you  Phy  all  parts)  ,h«  he  (halt  make 
«  tKk.fnljtbu  AfodinuhdtwfrtA,,,  •.  vTiich 
are,  as  afterwards  you  difpofethem,  the  fr4a%  ,f 

hfs  ™$f  ""'»"'.>'*  .9X«*>  »j*Ji£J'  ln{ 
his  molt  Excellent  M^t/ietJtfUnHui^out  S  Gre 
f  «r««.    But  fir  ft,  bcfor/wee  proceed  fi.rthe    le't  mee 
ase  one  queftion:  Where  doe  you  findethe  Do! 

ExccIItnt 


- 

nutter  f  Nowl,ere,moft  certainc  jn 
tie  book-  s  nor  any  where  that  I  can  tell  of.but  in  the 
^  Itofy0"rl.n"8lnation.wl'^  there  is  coynagc  all 


- 

k.'ii  FrL«,  „  ,V™Cf,d'    H,s  (acted  M.i)t-fty  hath  already  decla. 

f  "'»'  Hf«lf  „  :cd  hls  plfalurc  in  the  cafe  ofS.Crestrits,wd  there 
r,«^        by          „„  ^  to  (hc  MJ  llt^™™ 

aiid  other  Or^wrw,  to  require  the  like  in  all  the 
!<<*l..       Cnurchcs  committed 


.-«w«w  are 

no  C.wau«/,  you  h.id  beft  fay  fo  howfoevcr    For  if 
they  were  I  could  foone  tell  you  in  your  care.who  is 
a  :very  d.fobcicnt  fnbjea.  But  let  that  pa(Te,  cmaCK. 
""  <"«•>*>»,  and  fccif  thatbccbettervvhich  comes 


(37) 

after  next.  I  would  fainc  hope  fomc  good  of  you,but 
I  findc  no  ground  for  it :  you  mifreport  him  fo  excee 
ding  ihamelefly  in  every  paffoge.  The  firft  (you  Cay) 
ofhisthrccApiditficalldentMJIrAtitns,  (as you  pleafe 
to  flight  them)  is,  that  it  is  fo  (d)inhisMtijcftiesC/>.r/>- 
fell,  where  the  ancient  Orders  of  the  Church  of  Eng 
land  have  been  bcft  prefcrvcd^  and  without  which  (per 
haps}  we  had  be  fore  this  been  at  a  lo/ft  amongst  ovrfchcs 
for  the  whole  forme  and fafiion  of  divine  fcrvice.  7~/;c_-> 
ChappellofthcKing  being  the  bejl  interpret c r  ofth<L^> 
law  which  himfetfenatfed,  wherein  the  Communion  Ta- 
blehathfoftoodaf  nowit  doth^ftthence  the  beginning  of 
J2«.Elizabeth,n>^<tf  time  that  Kubrick  in  the  Common- 
prajcr  booke  was  confirmed  and  ratified.  Thus  you  re 
port  the  Doftors  words ,  and  with  ihame  enough. 
The  Doctor  faith  not  any  where,  (exclultvely  of  the 
Cathcd rails,  asyou vouch  him  here)  that  the  ancient 
Orders  of  the  Church  o/England  have  been  be  ft  prefer - 
•uedinhisMa\eftics  Chappel, without  the  which(perhaps) 
we  had  been  at  a,  lojfe^c.  Thefe  are  your  words,  and 
not  the  Doctors.  The  Doctors  words  are  thefe:(c)For  tycoaif**  the 
.  "  certainly  the  ancient  orders  of  the  Church  of  Eng- 
"  land  have  bccnc  bcft  preferved  in  the  Chappelsof 
"  the  Kings  Majcfty,  and  the  Cathedrals  of  this  King. 
"  dome  (good  Sir  mark  you  thatj)without  the  which, 
"perhaps,  we  had  before  this  been  at  a  lo(Te  amongft 
"  our  fclves,  for  the  whole  forme  and  fafliion  of  di- 
"  vine  Service.  Here  you  leave  out,  moft  wilfully,  to 
fay  no  worfe,  and  the  Cathedrals  of  this  Kingdoinc^ot 
fo  muchtoabufeand  falfifie  the  Doftor,  as  to  dcvifc 
fomequarrell  with  his  Majefties  Chappell^  which  you 
caft  many  an  cvill  eye  at :  And  thereupon  conclude 
moft  gravely,  (f)  Tovktt  ufcfcrvc  our  grave  andrvor- 

E3  thy 


(p) 

Sect,  i .  * ty  Metropolitans  >o:tr  Bifrops,  our  Convocttion  konfc,our 
Parliaments,  our  Liturgies,  hedged  in  and  compelled  in 
with  fo  many  Lawes, Kubricks  yVroclamations, and  Confe 
rences,  if  wee  had  been  long  before  this  at  A  loffe  in  Eng 
land  f$r  the  whole  form  and  fall)  ion  of  divine  fervice,bnt 
for  one  DcaH.andjo  many  Gentlemen  of  the  Kings  Chap- 
pell.  Lord  what  a  groile  ofwords  is  here  drawn  toge 
ther,  to  fight  with  nothing  but  apoore  fancy  of  your 
own;  at  moft  with  one  poove  Deanc,.ind  a  few  fimple 
Gentlemen  of  th:\t  contempriMe  place,  the  Kings 
Chappell  Royal!.  LefTeftreng,th,P.nd  fewer  weapons 
would  have  beetle  fufficknt,  to  drive  this  filly  troopc 
before  you;  whom  you  might  caiily  have  icattercd  ^ 
with  your  very  breath,  and  made  them  waire  upon 
your  triumph  at  the  firft  words  f peaking.  Dicitc  lo 
/V,t?/,^'  lo  Us  tiicitc  P.<an.  Never  did  any  ftory  tell  of 
fucli  a  conquering  combatant ,  ft  nee  King  William  thc^j 
Con<\itcro:tr. 

As  little  truth  you  ufc  inciting  of  the  orher.paflTage 
fiorn  rlu'I)odorste:a  ;  ami  hir  Icfle  modefl-y  in  your 
feco:ul  onfct  on  his  M:ijc(lies  Chappell.  You  make 
the  Doctor  fay  >  7 'he  CLippcltofthc  Kingtbcing  thcbeft 
Interpreter  oftLc.law  which  himfelfc  enacted,  wherein 
if.e  (r.^nmniofi  table  hath  Co  flood. is  now  it  doth, fwcc  the 
^^/w/w/^^/^ri'f/yt' Elizabeth ,&c.  and  then  flic  out 
'  r'«-37  •  upon  him  without  :•!!  pitty,  (s)  Where  did  the  mun  ever 
/•t\rn;  of  any  Cba{>r;Hin  the  C.hriftian  world,  that  gavz_s 
fon;;c  .vid fdfoioH  of  divine fcwicc^  to  whole  Provinces  ? 
Good  Sir  hive  patience  bur  a  little,  I  will  pay  you  all . 
And  tell  me  I  hcfcech  you  fir  ft, where  did  the  Doctor 
ever  fay  they  ihould  t  The  former  place  jou  guelded 
in  the  very  middle,  and  this  you  cutoff  in  the  end. 
««''t*  Take  the  whole  railage  as  it  lieth  together,  (h)  you 

'"'jj'j;**  •  ^^  -11 

Will 


, .  . 

(39; 

will  findcit  thus.  "  Por  if  we  loolce  into'  the  former  Cap.  Zt 
"  practice  either  of  the  Chappels  of  the  King,  the  heft 
"Interpreter  ofthc  law  which  hiinfclfcnafted, where- 

"in  the  Communion  table  hath  fo  flood  as  now  it 
"  doth,  fince  the  beginning  of  Q^.7: //c/ifo/ £:or  of  Co'. 
"  legiateandCathtdrafl.  Churches  jfiu:  beft  obfcrvcrs  of 
"  the  form  and  order  of  Gods  publick  ferviccstheVi- 
"  car  had  good  warrant  for  what  hcc  did.  Here  you 
leave  out  again  the  Cathedr.ill  And  Collcgi.ne  Churches, 
topick  afecond  quarrelhvith  his  Majciiies  Chappcll: 
theDoclor  faying  no  \vhcrc,as  you  make  him  fay,that 
the  Parochiall  Churches  are  to  precedent  thefclvcs 
(exprelly  and  exclufivcly)  by  the  Chappcll  Royall, 
(though  had  he  laid  fo,  you  would  hardly  make  your 
partagainft  him  j but  that  they  arc  to  precedent  tliem. 
fclvcs  by  the  mother  Churches,   rinding  fuch  ftore  of 
SpAHifl^FrenchtItalt4n^  Greek,  and  L.nin  cited  in  your 
'Margin,  onely  out  of  a  poore  ambition  to  fhcw  your 
/lore:I  need  not  doubt  but  you  canundetftand  a  piece 
of  £#£///&. Read  me  this  therefore  which  occurs  in  the 
6.  Paragraph  of  the  2.  Section,  (')  immediately-upon  (i)cw/,p.  17. 
thefe  words.  Without  the  which  perhaps  we  h.id  before 
this  been  at  a,  /ojfc  amongst  our  (elves  for  the  whole  forme 
and  fafoion  of  divine  fervicc.  For  there  it  folio  weth, 
"  And  therefore  if  it  bee  fo  in  the  Chappels  and  Ca- 
"thcdrall  Churches,  as  the  Epiftoler  doth  acknow. 
<l  lcdge,it  is  a  pregnant  argument  that  fo  it  ought  to  be 
"in the  Parochials,  which  herein  ought  to  precedent 
"  and  conformethemfclves,  according  to  the  pattern 
"  of  the  Mother  Churches.    The  O\lothcr  Churches, 
notcyouthat ;  not  the  Mother  Chappels.    So  that  you 
might  afwell  have  faved  your  ncedlcfiTc  difputation, 
about  the  inward  and  the  outward  motion  of  thcPrin- 

£4  ccs 


cesminde  5  as  thofe  moft  triviall,  and  indeed  unduti- 
full  inferences  which  you  make  upon  it,  1  have  heard 
eft  en  of  a  mother  Church,  but  now  behold  another  Chaf. 
pell,  p.  42.  and  worfc  than  that,  Teach  not  the  daugh 
ter  therefore  againft  all  Antiquity,  to  jet  it  out  beforetht 
tntthcr,  p.  3  7.  you  might  have  alfo  fpared  your  (k)  fc- 
vet-all  obfervations  of  publifliing  the  new  Miflall  by 
Pope  Pius  grintut,  not  «it  the  facred  Chappcll,  but 
S.  Peterf  Church  ;  thcwwrji  cafe,  (or,  as  you  mould 
have  called  it,thc  ridiculous  cafe)ofS3JV/»r//»/  hood  j 


thediflind  fervice  in  the  Chappelsof  Saiimanca^ 
thofe  that  are  in  Parifh  Churchesjtlie  fevcrall  ufcsof 
Hnging  fcrviccin  this  Church,  the  ancient  courfes  in 
fomc  others.  All  thcfc  areoncly  toy  cs  to  take  up  the 
time  \vith3and  conclude  nothing  to  the  purpofe  which 
wee  have  in  hand.,  as  they  confute  not  any  thing  that 
the  Doctor  faith.  Yet  fince  you  fpcake  fo  dcfpicably 
of  his  Majcfties  C/y.^f//,and  the  ttfc  thereof,  (!)  as  one 
that  never  heard  tillnoivthcufc  of  the  Chappcll  :  I  truft- 
you  \vill  not  fay  that  the  Kings  Chaff  ell  is  fct  out  in  a 
contimy  way,  to  that  required  in  a  law  of  the  Kings 
ownc  making  3  or  that  the  conftant  ufngeofthe  chap- 
fds  in  diisparticularsfincc  the  firft  making  ofthatlaw, 
may  not  be  thought  to  be  agood/;;/<?m«o-ofthelaw 
it  fclfc.  You  know  the  old  frying  well  enough^  that 


^  eft  interpret  yrtceptorum.  And  there 
fore  being  it  hath  beene  ftill-,  as  now  it  is,  in  K.  Ed. 
wards  Chappell.,\vhom  the  (*«}  judicious  Divine  t  <JM* 
Hooker  calkth  Edward  the  Saint,  and  Q^.  Elizabeths, 
and  ofK./*H0«,andofhisMajeftynow  livingjCwhom' 
God  long  prefcrve)  whom  you  your  fclfe  liave  ho 
noured  with  the  ftyle  of  Saint:  We  may  conclude  that 
the  Kings  Chappcll  in  this  kind,or  the  Kings  practice. 

in 


(4*r — 

in  his  Chappell,may  br,and  is  the  beft  Interpreter  of  Capi  Z, 
thofe.R«£r/Vff,£4fv.r,and  Canons  JU\\K\\  youelfwherc 
fpeak  of.  Nor  could  you  preach  a  \vorfe,though  per 
haps  no  more  welcome  do&rine  to  your  dcare  ditci- 
ples,than  that  his  Ma  jetties  Chap  fell  is  not  ordered  as 
it  ought  to  be:  who  prcfently  might  make  this  ufe 
thereof,that  they  would  be  as  little  careful  to  obferve . 
the  law  in  their  fcvcrall  Pariflits.  Regis  ad  excmplttfK. 
You  know  right  well  what  followcs,though  you  will 
not  follow  it.  If  therefore  the  Communion  table  doe 
{land  Alt  ar-wi fern  his  M  •  jcfturs  Chafpcll^ as  moft  furc & 
it  doth  ;  and  that  /'/  be  A  finnc  agawft  mam  precepts,  to 
doubt  or  whiter  Jbut  that  the  King  doth  wifely  andrdigi- 
Oftjly  /'#/V5as  p.  34.  you  fay  it  is :  why  ftiould  not  that 
give  law  to  the  Part]})  Churches  ••>  or  why  fhouldyotr 
debar  them  from  a  conformity  with  that, which  feemcs 
fb  wifely  and  rcl/gioujly  done,  in  the  Chappcll  Roy  all  ? 
Here  is  a  riddle  indeed,  if  you  talke  of  riddles. 

Havingbeen  bold  (as  never  any  man  was  more)  with 
his  Majcilies  Chapptl.you  cannot  leave  off  fo,  b"*  y  on 
muft  have  a  fling  a{Qj£li&4lctk,and  hers:and  («;  n>ijh  (")  P'& 
tbeDottor  had  not  named  at  all  the  beginning  of£>j..  Eli- 
zabeth.  For  then  fay  you,  there  rv*t  an  Alt.ir  in  thz_j 
Chappel,andthe  very  cldmaffe  officiated  thereupon.  The 
very  old majfe  ?  What  is  your  meaning?  I  hope  you 
doc  not  thinke,  though  you  fpeakc  fuipicioufly,  that 
that  which  hath  beene  imce  officiated  thereupon,  is  a 
icflf dJ/Jr too,  though  fomewhat  f.cwcr  (")  •  the  hrg-  (o 
Hj}jMa(fc,^  your  good  friends  the  Puritans  have  been  ' 

r      /-  j  M-      VT  i      r    r          c 

pleated  to  call  it.  Nor  need  you  be  to  lorry  for  name- 
ing  rhe  beginning  of  Q^en  Eliz,ab:th,zs,  if  you  would 
have  palfcd  it  over  with  a  Soit  pour  non  dul,  for  feare 
the  Doctor  f  of  \vhofe  credit  you  arc  very  carcfull) 

fhould 


Se«£l.  i.     fliouldbe  fufpe&ed  for  feme  hopes  of  having  the 

Maffe  fct  up  againc  :  asp.  5  1  .  you  tell  him  what  great 
hope  he  hdth.of  having  one  day  AU  ,-.'  It  AT  and  a  facrij:cc_j 
forjoj  of  b:  sdi  Agr  AW.  The  Doftor  fpeaks  not  of  pla 
cing  the  Communion  table,fo  as  it  flood  in  the  begin. 

(?)  C'J''>  F-  n-  M"g  off^tticn  Elizabeth  ;but  faith  (r)  thatin  the  Ch^- 
pell  Roy  alltt  bdthfo  flood  ,is  now  it  doth,.  [mcc  the  begin 
ning  0j^y«wh.li/abeth  :  i.e.  for  So.  yeares  roge> 
ther  without  interruption  or  alteration.  In  the  begin- 
w^  other  raigne,  and  ever  (luce  the  beginning  of  her 
•Or,*  /£>;f,  arc  two  dirfcrent  things  :  and  this  you  could 
not  but  obf  ITVC,  but  that  you  had  a  minde  to  quarrell 
with  that  excellent  Lady;  f  or  which  I  trow,your  bre 
thren,  who  now  fo  much  adore  her  memory,  will 
conn  you  little  thankcs  in  private.  For  whereas  that 
moft  excellent  Lady  followed  therein  the  practice  of 
vide  E'Jk:  her  brother  (i)  King  iV»v.  6.  and  kept  her  Chappell 

nnpns?.str-  up  in  that  forme  and  order  as  was  moft  fit  both  for 
tne  decencie  of  Gods  publick  fervice,  and  the  magni- 
iiccnccof  herownc  royall  State  :  wee  are  now  told 
that  this  was  done(r)  Pour  flatter  Us  CAtholiques^&les 
I'rinces  ef  rangers  fon\y  to  flatter  with  the  Catholiques, 
(this  flattering  with  the  Catboliqt(es,yo\\  very  cunning 
ly  left  out  in  your  tranflation)and  with  forraign  Prin 
ces.  Nay,  if  Dti  Chcfric  may  be  beleeved  (or  rather  if 
you  may  bebeleeved,that  do  thus  mifreport  DH  Chef- 

ft  )  I'M*  wur.  ne}  all  this  was  done,not  cut  of  piety  ,but  policy:  (f)  Et 
p.ir  my  ccttc  innovation  Liiff.t  plnficttrs  ckofcs  qttcffejtt- 
gct  indtffcroitcs^cowe  lesOrgitcs,  lesOrruinents  d'cfgltfe^ 
ijttoy  (JHC  plus  pour  police  <]nc  pour  religion,  as  you  cite 
the  words.  Andre  da  f/;<r///f,anhonefl:cr  man  than  you, 
tc^s  us  no  ^1C^  mattcr-  ^or  having  named  (f)  the  Or- 
g>w  And  Ornaments  of  the  Church,  f  and  not  the  Orna 

ments 


v. 


(43; 

memsof  the  Queens  Chappell  oncly,  which  you  cite  Cap.  2.' 
hitnfor)he  brings  in  M'-fidc,  the  names  and  dignities 
intheEcclcfiafticall  Hierarchic,  Arch-Bifliops,  Bi- 
fliops^Canons  of  Churchcs,Curatcs,Pricfts  and  Dea 
cons,  as  alfo  Lent,  andabftinence  from  fleih  on  Fri- 
cayesand  Saturdayes.  Then  addcs,  what  you  hiivc 
made  him  fay  of  Organsaand  the  Church  Ornaments, 
(as  if  hee  fpokc  of  thofcalonc)that  this  was  doneplw 
four  police, (pie  four  religtMjnoK  for  policy  thanllcli- 
gion.  Which \vords,ifyouobfervc  him  \vcll,arc  not 
to  be  referred  to  all  that  went  before  (for  then  Arch- 
Bifliops,Bi{hops,Pricft sand  Deacons  had  been  retai 
ned  onely  in  point  of  policy)  but  to  the  keeping  of 
Lent  and  other  filling  dayes.  Wherein  An  Che  foe  hath 
fpoke  no  more  than  what  is  extant  in  the  Stat.of5» 
El  cap.1),  where  it  is  faid  exprefly,  that  thcfir&ear/ng 
cfjlejh  *>M  meant  onely  pol/ticklyy  for  the  incretfc  off- 
fiermcn  and  mariner s,&c.  Or  if  you  think,  ns  I  doe, 
that  hee  did  notconfultthe  Statute  for  it ;  then  out 
of  doubt,  he  borrowed  it  from  (°)  Sanders  tie  fcbifntatc  (»}  tr.M.  5. 
i^dnglicAttO,  where  it  is  faid  ternunis  tertnin.intiins,  \\\ 
this  cafe  of  Zr/tf, and  farting  dayes,  and  i  i  this  ondy, 
Non  religioniSyfcdptiblici  taut um  commtdi  cjtif.i  hoc  ip- 
ftim  mMidiiri .  Your  other  Frcnc h- man,  thefrecdotie 
of  whofc language  you  fo  much  commend,  took  his 
hint  from  the  fame  hand  alfo  :  and  you  cix-buta  Do- 
&or  Slanders  jo  joyn  wiih  him  and  tlv.-m  i:i  any  thing, 
which  tends  to  the  dishonour  of  fo  brave  a  Lady. 
This  faid  ,  you  whcclc  about  to  fetch  another  blow 
at  the  Qjcenes  altar,  placing  a  crucipxe  on  the  f;mc, 
(which  itood  there  but  a  little  while)  and  then  de 
mand  whether  the  Parijh  Churches  (*)\vcretff  take  pat-  (x)?-^-??* 
tcrnc  by  this ,   who  might  Wtpejfcjft*  picture  in  this 

kind 


(44) 

Sc£l.  1 .  kwde?  no  not  Any  of  the  Sufytts  in  tkeir  priwte  koufesl 
A  thing  impertinently  brought  in^but  that  you  will  be 
mcdling  with  you  care  not  what;  and  having  brought 
it  in,  will  make  it  good  fome  way  or  other,  but  you 
care  not  how.  For  for  the  proofeof  this,  though  not 
worth  the  proving,  you  cite  the  45.  Article  of  and  for 

(*)  Po-J?  the  Regatlvifitation^vvi..  (x)  Whether  you  know  any  that 
keep  in  their  hottfss  }any  u»dcfacedlmagcsjAbles>fitfttrc$9 
andcutcrTall  the  reft  with  an  &c.  Keadeon  thcn,/>/- 
cfureS)  fahrtingS)  and  other  Monuments  offained  and 
fit  ft  mimics  j  filgr images ,  Jdoi\tryy  *»d  Jitp(rpitio»9 
ami  doc  adore  them.  J'oyla  Monfictir,  not  the  fojjffing^ 
but  i\\c  adoring  of  thccracifxe,  was  enquired  into.-and 
yet  would  fainc  foolethepeople,as  if  it  were  not  law- 
full  to  pofTclTc  a  crucifixe ,  or  any  picture  in  that 
Li/idejmuch  lc(!e  to  have  them  in  ourChurches.Wel- 

(yjHaiehtmto  ^rc  tlie  Frettcl-wcnyct,  rvho(^}  out  ofthcjreedomeef 

my  Mftr_eift,     their  nation, will  be  furc ,pavlcr  tout,4^^  consealncthing 

tn*fb»,en,n-hii  ci)lty,and  you  make  your  bed  of  it.  Your  next  quota- 
wt  ffthfffc-     t  jon  tjiat  Im^(s  Of  chin,  It  not  eneh  defctts,  but  alfo 

dome  tf  thi  nl-    . .       r          .  .    ,«        '  .'     .  •  /         •    n    L  •  u 

timwltbt  fat  "fs,lor  which  you  vouch  the  Homily  againlt  tncpena 
r*./fl-r^,cv.  of  idolatry,  is  "wtwdicium.,  nothingunto  thepointin 
hand  ;  but  that  you  arc  a  venturous  gamcftcr,and  love 
tohavcatalljwhatfocveritcoft  you.  Torifyou  take 
thereafonofthc  ifo/nily  \v\\h  you,  (*)  which  is,  that 
of  the  Godhead  which  is  themofl  excellent  fart  of  Chrijl, 
us  Image  can  ice  wade :  it  will  appearc  that  in  the  mea 
ning  of  the  Homily ,  the  images  or  pi«flure  of  a  mortall 
man,  may  not  be  only  called  a^<y<//,buta  //Valfojbc- 
caufeno  pulurc  can  be  nude  of  the  foulet  which  is  the 
moft  excellent  fart  of  the  whole  man.  Either  fpeakc 
more  unto  the  purpofe,  orelfe  hold  your  peace. 

The 


'The  Dolors  a;  Argument,  (according  as  you  Cap. 
plcafcro  new  mould  his  bookc  )  is  taken  (you  fay  ) 
from  the  £#ee*cs  ln\un£liQns^  more^m»atf/y,(*  )yoti  (a) 
confeiTe,than  wasthe  former  fro  the  Queens  Chappeli, 
but  that  it  hath  not  any  fohdity  to  reft  upon.  Why  foe" 
Doc  not  the  Qjeer.s  Injunctions  fay,  (b)  that  if  the  Al- 
tar  were  cooke  downe  ( which  they  commanded  not)  <:»•*»*. '». 
the  holy  Table  ftottldbc  decently  made  andfct  in  the  place 
when  the  ^ltarjlcod,and  there  commonly  covered  as 
thereto  belonged?  Ycs,b»tyoufay,(e)tbcrc  folknveth 
fomcwhat  which  this  falfe  fivgred  Gentleman  left  our, 
viz.  and  a*  fiaS be  appointed  by  the  Fif  tours:  There 
upon  you  conclude,  that  placing  and  adorning  of  the 
Table  was  referred  to  the  Cowmif toners^  who  in  their 
Orders,  tcrrioof  thcQjccne,  appointed  ,T^4r  the  TtL/c 
footitd (land  where  theflcps  within  the  $ 'tires  And  Chsn- 
ecls fleod^  and  flottld  he  covcredwith  filke  9r  buckram  : 
and  having  faid  fo,  winde  your  home,  (d)  and  MM  the  (d)  Andtkmjf 
fatt»fthc  Injurttfiott.  In  all  this  there  is  nnfilidityt9,nA  youbtt^od 
as  little  truth.  Thofcwords,  andatflAli  bee  appointed  nywrnte'*™, 
by  the  Vifttirs,  relate  not  to  the  placing  of  the  Table,  />«*'»  tndii<nv 
which  was  determined  of  in  the  Injunction  5  but  to  the 
covering  of  the  fame,wherein  the  faid  Injunctions  had 
determined  nothing. For  marke  the  words; "  The  holy 
"  Table  in  every  Church  flxtll  be  decently  mdde^andfet  i'n 
cc  the  place  where  the  Altar  JleoA-,  What  mwci  and  there 
"  camwonly  covcrtd,*s  thereto  belongethsntjsfiali  bet 
^appointedby  the  rifttors;  &  foiofttind,favif?g  when  the 
<c  Ctmntunttn  tfthe  Sacrament  is  tt  l>ec  dtftrilutcd,  &ct 
What  thinke  you  now  i  what  is  referred  unto  the  ri- 
ftors^  the  placing  of  the  Table,or  the  covering  only  { 
Not  the  placing  furcly,  as  you  may  find  in  thelaft  pe 
riod  of  the  faid  Injunction  3  viz.  And  After  the  C»mm*~ 


tie 


I ,      won  done, from  time  to  time  (not  till  the  rifttwrs  ftiould 
determine  otherwife)  the  ftmt  holy  Table  to  bee  placed 
where  it  flood  before.  Then  for  the  Orders  of  the  ycare 
1561'.  can  you  finde  any  thing  in  them  that  crofTet h 
the  ln]ttnclio»  ?  Take  the  whole  Order  as  it  lieth,  and 
then  rviadcyoar  Aw»,(«)l<  ft  is  ordered  dfi,l.ha.t  thvftcps 
''which  be  asyetatthisday  remaining  in  my  date- 
"  drA.ll>  Collegiate,  or  Parifl)  church,,  bee  not  ftirred  or 
<c  altered,  but  bee  differed  to  continue.  And  if  in  any 
"C£4tfff//thcjfcps,bee  tranfpofcd,  that  they  bee  not 
<c  created  againe, but  that  the  fteps  be  decently  paved, 
<c  where  the  Communion  7Vi£/c  (hall  {land  out  of  the 
r<  times  of  receiving  the  Coinmunion5having  thereon 
•e*a  fairc  linncn  cloth,  with  foinc  covering  offilkc, 
e<  buckram,  or  other  fuch  like  for  the  clcane  keeping 
<{of  thcfaid  cloth.  No  order  here,  for  altering  the 
Communion  Table  from  that  place  and  pofture  in 
which  it  had  bccne  fitiutcd  by  the  Qneenes  Iri}nnfti. 
on  :  or  that  it  fliould  ftatul  where  the  ftps  within  the 
£t*jres,or  chancels  (hod-,  much  lefle  as  you  have  made 
it  in  your  fulfilled  Copic  of  the  Bifliops  letter ;  where 
thejlcpstt  the  ^AltAr  former  Ij  flood :  as  if  they  would 
nothavchfhnd  clofc  along  the  wall,  but  neere  unto 


,  the  Tables  o'f  Codspre- 
:.)?--   ctpts  impriKtedfor  thcftidpurpofaw  as  i 


p.A-4-*. 


TMc:  the  Doctor  laying  all  together  concluded  thus, 
t}iac  being  tlic  Table  was  (  by  the  I  tunnel  ie»)  to  bee 
placed  where  the  Altar  ftood  ;  above  the  fteps,(asby 
the  Ordtrs-,)  and  under  the  Commandemcnts  (  as  by 

the 


•—*--~- — -i 


the  Orders  and  /dverti  foments ; )  therefore  it  was  to  Cap.  2,- 
ftand  all  along  the  wall.  Againft  this  you  have  no 
thing  to  reply,  but  bold  conjectures.  ( u  ;  Why  not  af.  (l*;  pag.4i. 
well  in  the  flue  ofthejlcps,  And  ctidtrife  to  the  wall? 
And  ( » )  TV  by  not  the  Com/nAndtments  ov(r  the  Commit.  (0  FAo  43- 
nion  board,  that  is,  in  fome  higher  f  luce  where  they  may 
be  [ccne,  Alt  hough  the  Table  jl  and  in  the  midfl  of  the 
Quire  ?  and  why  net  ( » )  over  the  Communion  Table, 
that  is,  ever  the  end  of  the  Table  ?  I  fee  you  are  excel  - 
lentat  Tick  tack,  as  you  havcbeenealwayes,  and  will 
not  let  a  why  not  .pafle,  if  it  come  in  your  way.  Bur- 
this  is,  asr0w/Mtf  (aidof  ScnccAsKi\ct  ^4 rent  fine 
c/ilcc  j  and  lumps  together,  as  wee  fay  in  the  Engliflt 
Vioverb,  like  pebbles  in  a  withe.  Hut  fo,  it  fecmes>you 
will  not  leave  us.  You  have  an  other  nnfwer  to  the 
$!±eencs  In']unttion, •touchint'  \\icfctting  of  the  Table  in 
thcpUfe  where  the  ^4lur  flood:  which  \sjhat  it  might 
ft  And  above  thcjlcps  with  the  cndJZaftn'ard,  and  the  fide 
Northward^  and  (l)  yet  obey  the  words  of  the  In^incl'toa,  ^  ^  4 
And  bee  in  the  f  lace  where  the  ^4\tAr  flood.  How  fo  c1 
Bccaufe,  fay  you,  youHnde  in  ^rifiotle  that  there  is 
TVT&KSIW  a  common  place,  and  •"'*©• '^  a  proper  place. 
Whence  you  inferre  that  the  Iniuntfion  tv.ts  direclc d 
'10  her  Mayflies {ub\etfSy  not  to  her  Mathematicians,i\\d 
therefore  was  more  likely  toufc  the  term;  of  a  common 
and  ordinary^  than  a  proper  and  (J-lathern.itic.i'J  pLtcc. 
^/fnd  fo  the  place  eft  he  A  Icar,  /';;  this.  Injundtio.i ,  //  not 
all  and  in  all  dimensions,  but  fome  fart  end]  of  the  room 
which  the  h\t\\- flUd.  \  gather  by  your  ftyL-,  you  arc- 
feme  great  body,  feme  Mtn(flcrt-toi\v:  Licence  ftiK-s 
you  ;  and  doubt  not  but  you  have  many  fcrvants,  al 
though  not  many  Mathematicians^  attending  on  you. 
And  let  race  put  you  a  familiar  cafe,  this  once.  It  U  a 

tiling  , 


I. 


(n)  Horn. 


fo;Vir&iL 


lp)Pag-47* 


ufc  not  often.  Snppofe  you  have  aa  old  fide. 
er  toitrt-cuf  board  (landing  in  your  dining-  room; 
and  you  command  your  fcrvants  (being  no  Matbemar- 
f/'fw»,f,fuppofc  that  too)to  take  the  faid  oldjWf-^W, 
or  court,  cupboard  way  ^  and  fet  anothcrinthe  place  : 
If  heefhould  fct  it  end-wife,  where  the  other  flood 
fide-wife,  would  not  your  blood  bee  up,  and  yonr 
black  ftaffe  about  his  eares  *  Your  difference  out  of 
i^4  rift  otic  bccwcene  -mat  Karat  andron*'^®-'  ferv«s  for 
nothing  here,  more  than  to  make  a  flicw,  and  to  de 
ceive  poore  people  that  under  fland  it  not.  And  yet  in 
confidence  of  the  caufe,  you  tell  the  Doctor,  that 
(m)  for  the  gre.it  p.iines  he  hath  taken,  with  his  lint  and 
lev  til  jn  finding  tut  the  place  where  the  ^s(  It  ar  flood;  he 
might  Live  (pared  it  all  agtinft  the  building  of  A  new 
figeen-houfe.  (n)  NAturam  ex  fell  AS  furctlictt  ;  J  fee 
there's  a  prophancflfe  in  your  bones,  which  wilhicver 
out.  Never  did  man  fpeakc  of  facred  things,  with  fo 
little  reverence.  T)reffers,  and  P/£**»-^w/«,andwhat- 
foever  fcandalous  conceit  comes  next  to  hand,  we  arc 
furc  to  he-arc  of.  It  would  doc  better,  as.  I  take  it,  if 
when  you  write  next  oi  a  facred  argument,  fome  boy 
or  other  might  cry  out  to  you,as  heretofore  the  Pricft 
did  when  hee  \vasto  facrifice,  (f)froculhinc9fr9c»l 
ejlo  propane.  And  fo  much  for  your  firft  and  fecond 
anfwers,  to  the  QKxrnes  Injunction. 

Now  for  the  3.  in  which  you  have  difpofed  the 
flower  of  all  your  Army,  your  very  lanizaries,  you 
tell  us  with  like  confidence,  that  (P)  ifbythcfc//*- 
jtmttions,  the  Table  w^s  to  ftand  where  the  Altar 
flood  j  then  fliould  the  faid  inanitions  vary  from  the 
rites,  which  hut  few  daycs  he  fvrc  had  beenc  prescribed  by 
ftrliament,  to  bcc  itfcd  in  the  hookc  of  Common  prayers. 

How 


\ 


How  prove  you  that  >  Marry  fay  you,  the  'ijuiniflcr 
Appointed  toreade  the  Communion  js  di  retted  to  reade  the 
Commandements,  not  at  the  end,  but  the  North  fide  of  the 
table  jvhich  implies  the  end  to  be  placed  towards  the  Eaft 
great  window.  2 .   It  was  pratfifed  fo  in  King  Ed  war  d  s 
time,  atis(  not  proved,  bufyttatweured  to  bee  proved 
tf^^//^^oublejj^tJFrjmcofurt.    3.  Bccaufe  it  is  very 
likely  that  Cox,  Grindall ,  and  Whitehcad  ( being 
hdlfe  the  number  of  the  perufers  of  the  Liturgie  which 
WM  to  bee  confirmed™  the  Parliament  following}  would 
ibfervc  that  ceremony  in  f  lacing  the  Communion  Table , 
which  them f elves  abroad  and  at  home  had  formerly  pra- 
tiifcd.  Thcfcare  the  Arguments  we  muft  rruft  to,  to 
confirme  the  point;  butchefc  will  not  doc  it :  for  they 
arconcly  fay-focs}and  no  proof cs  at  all ;  and.  might  as 
juftly  be  denied  by  us5asventurotifly  affirmed  by  you. 
But  we  will  fcan  themfcverally,  beginning  firftwith 
that  comes  laft,  and  fo  proceeding  afcendcndo,  until! 
allbcanfwcred.  Firftthen,  Cox^  Grindall mdwbitc- 
head,  made  not  up  halfc  the  number  of  the  Perufers 
of  the  Liturgie.    The  Authour  whom  you  cite, 
(^)  names  us  eight  in  all,  farkcr,  Bill^  May^  Cox,  Grin- 
.  eUU9  Whitehead^  Pilkington,  and  Sir  Thomas  Smith ;  all 
joynt-  Commiflioners  in  the  bufincflc.  So  that  unlelTe 
it  may  bee  proved  that  three  and  three  makes  eight ; 
(and  if  it  may  bee  proved,  you  are  more  cunning  at 
Arithmetick,  than  mail  the Ultatbematicksbefidc:) 
Grindall,  and  Cox,  and  Whiichcadmz&e  not  halfc  the 
number.   But  let  that  paiTc  for  once,  how  fliall  wee 
know  that  they  did  place  the  Communion  Table  end 
long,  both  at  home  and  abroad?  Tor  this  wee  are  di- 
reeled  to  \\vztrottblcs  at  Francofurt,  pag.  23.  and  24. 
in  which  there  is  not  any  word  that  reflects  that  way. 

F  AH 


Seel.  i.     'All  we  findc  there,  is  the  rccitall  of  a  letter  fent  From 

the  conformable  Englifi-mtn  at  Struburgb  to  the 
fibifntAticatt  Congregation  of  the  E»gltjh-me»{\\  Fran- 
ccjurt,  about  reducing  them  unto  the  booke  of  Com. 
mon- prayers  eftabliflied  in  the  latter  end  of  King 
Edward  6.  which  letter  was  delivered  to  them  by  Mr. 
CrindallnnA  Mr  *C/j  ambers  find  figncdby  16.  of  cheir 
hands,  G riitdds  being  one  \  but  not  one  word  of  Ct>\* 
or  Wbitebead.  Or  grant  this  too,  that  Grind.ill,  Cox 
and  Jr/yr/f/tf^pluced  their  Communion  Table,  end- 
longy\vhen  they  were  abroad,  and  might  befearcfull 
of  offending  thofe  among  ft  whom  they  lived  :  yet 
would  it-be  no  good  cone! ulion,  that  therefore  they 
appointed  it  fhould  bee  fo  here,  where  they  were  fafe 
and  out  of  danger ;  and  had  the  countenance  of  the 
Qiicene,  who  liked  old  orders  very  well, for  their  ia- 
coui  agemcnt.  You  law  this  well  enough,  and  therc- 
(r)  ;/fc.7rj7fr/  fore  durc  not  fay  it  for  a  ccrtaine,  but  (l)  a  likely  mat- 

G^indaihKc!    tcr : an<^  li^lylloo^s>^  trowXcxcept icbc  for  you)are 

p.47.'  r.o  dcinonft rations.  This  faul.your  fccond  Argument 

about  the  praftifc  in  King  /•  dw.ir  Jjtime,  endeavoured 

to  bee  proved  from  the  troubles  at  francofurt,  is  al- 

(f )  tri'id) ti.e    ready  nnfwered :  Your  poore  (f  )indi.ivours,  and  your 

wtterofti  t      {]mpj.c  hfxl'jJjQcds  mriV  wel  i^o  together.  Nor  is  there  n. 

Ltueitndei-io:i-          r  ,  J .     .    o         p  .     i 

i/rf/j /•»«:.-.      anything  in  all  that  relation,  which. conccrnes  this  1 
?•**•  pra&ifc;  more  tlian  a  fummary  of  the  Orders  in  King  | 

£  Awards  Bookc  drawne  up  by  Knox  and  others  of 
that  crew,  to  bee  fent  to  Calvin  j  by  his  determinate 
fentencc  to  ftand  or  fall :  where  it  is  onely  (aid,  that 
tkc  Uttinifier  is  tofltnd  .it  tbe.  North- fide  of  the  Table. 
Which  being  a  recitall  onely  of  the  Kubrick  in  the 
Common-prayer  Booke,  makes  but  one  Argument 
with  the  firft  5  or  helps,  God  wott,  but  very  poorely 

for 


C  /u 


forthcproofcpfthat.  Butwhercyouknoclcitonthe 

head,  with  faying  that  the  placing  of  the  Table  end* 

long,  with  one  end  towards  the  Eaft  great  window, 

was  the  laft  (ituation  of  that  table  in  K'.Edwtrds  time; 

and  call  (*)  Miles  Htiggard  for  a  witntflc:  moft  fure 

Miles  Huggurd  tels  you  no  fuch  matter.  («)  For  thus 

faith  (Jit  tie  s :  "How  long  were  they  learning  to  fct  An.i)jifp.fi. 

"  their  TatU9to  mimfter  the  faid  Communion  upon  t 

<c  Firft  they  placed  it  x/0/r,  where  the  high  ^AltAr 

cc  ftood.   Then  muft  it  btc  fct  from  the  wall  that  one 

c'  might  go  bctwccne :  the  Min'fters  being  in  contcn- 

(( tion  on  whether  part  to  turnc  their  faces,  either  to- 

"  wards  the  Wcft,thc  North, or  South.  Some  would 

<e  (land  Weft-ward,  fome  North- ward,  fome  South- 

ward.  How  fay  you  now.   Doth  Miles  fay  any  tiling 

of  placing  tbeTablc  end-long.  Noyoint.  He  faith  ir  was 

removed  from  the  wall  where  at  firft  it  ftood,  that 

one  might  goe  betweene  the  faid  wall  and  it  j  and  fo 

I  hope  it  might  ftanding  North  and  South :  but  that  it 

was  placed  cnd-Ung,  not  one  word  faith  Miles. 

Your  out-works  being  taken  in,  come  wee  unto  the 
Fort  it  fclfe,the  Kubrick  :  where  it  is  faid,//6<?  M/niftcr 
funding  At  the  north- fide  of  thcTablcfiall  fay  the  Lords 
Pr.ijfr.  The  Doctor  anlwered  this  before  in  his  Coal 
from  the  Altar,  viz.  (x) Cc  tb.it  being  in  all  quadr angular  fr)  Coal.p.ij 
"  and  quadrilateral  figures  there  were  foure  iidcs, 
£f  though  commonly  the  narrower  fides  bee  called  by 
"  the  name  of  ends:  the  Minifter  ftanding  at  t\\tnorth- 
"cndvf  the  Table,  doth  perfbrmethc  Kubrick^  the 
<c  Table  ftanding  in  the  place  where  the  Altar  ftood  ; 
*'  as  well  as  ftanding  at  the  North-fide^  in  cafe  it  ftood 
f{  with  one  end  towards  the  Eaft  great  window.  And 
*'  this  hee  did  coaccivc  the  rather,  bccaufe  that  in  the 

r  2  "  Com- 


Sc&.  I. 


?3g.jj. 


(j») 

cc  Common-Prayer  Booke  dotle  into  Latin,  by  the 
"command,  and  authorized  by  the  great  Scale  of 

xi  i  _    •         .  >-» 


"  tentrionalem  partem^  Minijlcr  fans,cralit  orationem 
"  dominicAm$\\w  the  Minifter  (landing  at  the  Norrh- 
<(  part  of  the  Table  flnll  fay  the  LordsPraycr,  This 
is  the  fumme  of  his  difcourfe :  what  reply  make  you? 
Firft  cntringon  a  vaine  difcourfe,  touching  the  rap 
tures  of  thefoule,  when  it  is  throughly  plunged  in  the 
ftudy  of  the  CM  at  hem.it  icks,m.\  therein  mewing  your 
notoriousignoran.ee,  in  mif- reporting  the  inventions 
of  Euclide,  <^>frcb.'MedeSj  and  Pythagoras  t  which  wee 
will   tell  you  of  hereafter  j   and  blundering  moft 
lliamefully  in  the  very  principles  of  thofe  noble  flu- 
dies,  in  rcndring  the  Greek  7V7?i>yoxby  your  jqnilate. 
V//w,p.49.  which  no  /£>;/fr0  but  your  felfc  would  have 
ever  dor.eryoufall  on  this  at  laft,for  the  rrtaine  of  your 
anfwere.  tyLoqitcndant  eft  cum  I'ttlgo,  when  wfefyrake 
tctl-e  people  of;i  fide,  wee  nntfi  take  a  fide  AS  they  take  it  j 
and  thai  the  Veil  or  w.ts  tco  bUm?  to  dilute  out  efGeomf. 
try  again  ft  cujlome,a;idth.it  whb  people  which  arc  no  Ge- 
emctricians :  Cl)  Pcorc  fubjetis  that  are  penally  'to  obey 
L mvcs  and  Canon;,  not  heing-tobcc fyokcnto  ascordingto 
the  rules  of  Art.  (»)  You  tell  us  further,thauf  <rj  ^irt 
h.ith  to  itsfdfc  its  oivnc  words  ofart^nd  thereupon  pro. 
ducc  an  Epitaph  en  the  Chanter  9fLangrcs>  (thir.kc  you 
it  would  not  f'crvc  for  one  that  had  beene  Chant er  of 
Lincoln  alfo  {  )  And  with  another  talc  (b)  ofEucltde, 
and  cerraine  Diagrams  drawn  in  the  fand  by  the  Egyp 
tians  ;  adviicthc  Dodorto  remember,  that  the  Ku 
brick  w.is  written  for  the  nfc  eft  he  Er.glifli^andnotofthc 
Cypfics.    Of  all  this,  there  is  little  that  requires  an 
iwcr,  confining  all  of  flouriflies,  and  fencing  tricks; 

but. 


i# 


butnotoriehandfome  ward  to  keep  off  a  blow.  Tot 
(peak  man,  was  that  Rttlrick  written  for  the  Laitie,or 


or  a  learned  Miniftery  <i  truft  you  are  not  come  fo  far, 
as  tobcleevethat  every  Coblcr,Taylor,or  other  Ar- 
tizan,may  take  his  turn,  and  miniftcr  at  the  holy  Altar, 
though  you  have  fomahing  here  and  there,  which 
without  very  favourable  Readers,  maybe  fo  inter 
preted.  If  fo,as  fo  it  was,thc  Kubrick  being  only  made 
for  the  direction  of  thcClergie,and  amongft  thofe  the 
Miniftcrs  of  £/wW»Diocefe,  (whom  I  prefuivte  you 
neither  willnor  can  condemn  of  fo  much  ignorance:) 
why  doe  you  talk  fo\d\yofpoorefnbjec~fs  that  arepc- 
natty  te  tbey  lanes  *»d  Canons  ja\d  ignorant  people  that 
are  not  to  be  fpoken  to  by  rules  of  Art  ? 

But  this,  it  feemes,  hath  beene  your  recreation 
enely.  For(c)w*/f*  ^//ywithus/ft/gir,  you  tell  the  (Op'S-W- 
Doftor,  that  learned  men  in  thcfe  'very  particular  cere 
monies,  which  we  have  in  band,  have  appropriated  tht^> 
word  fides  to  the  longhand  the  word end, to  thcfiort  length 
of  an  oblong  fyuare.  This,  if  well  done,  is  worth  the 
feeing  rand  how  prove  you  this  ?  Gregory  the  15.  who 
had  about  him  allthebejl  ^Mathematicians  in  Europe, 
when  he  renewed  ('or  changed)  the  Calendar  y  doth  call 
them  fo  in  his  Pontifical.  Nonfequittir.  This  is  the 
ftrangeft  fequelc  that  I  ever  heard  of.  Korean  itpof- 
fibly  hold  good,  unleflfc  it  had  been  faid  withall,  tliat 
inthefetting  out  the  fold  Pontifical  hechad  conful- 
ted  with  thofe  {JWatbematicians^n  this  very  thing,by 
whofe  advife  and  counfell  he  renewed  the  Calendar. 
And  be  that  granted  too:  what  then  ?  Why  then  fay 
you,  in  his  Pontifcall  he  makes  no  more  fides  of  an. ^  I- 
tar,  than  of  a  m*nytc  wit,  a  right  fide,  and  a  left  fide ; 

F  ^  calling 


i  •  i  •   i  mm* 

(54) 

ct&ing  the  Icjfer  pjaares^  the  Anterior  dnd  fofterior 
thereof.  For  proof  ofthis,you  cite  him  ih\\$:Etthurip- 
c*t  Alt  Are  ftndij,  addextrum  &fwi{}rufft  latut,  p..  144. 
And  then  againe,/#40/ir/0;7  frpofterieripartcAltarif, 
p.  1 42  ofy our  Edition,  ?VjffM5§2.  being  in  mine  of 
Peiri<y  1615. png. 232. 0:247.  But clcerety  this  makes 
good  what  the  Doctor  faith.  For  the Mitcrtour  part 
riiufl  needs  be  that  at  which  the  Prief  Hands  when  he 
doth  officiate,  which  by  their  order,is\vith  has  face  to 
the  Eaft.-and  the  f0/rVr/V,that  which  is  next  the  wall, 
\vhich/>.i83.youcall  theback-fivfeofthe  /P/^r.And 
then  it  muft  needs  be,  that  the  two  fidts  thereof  j  as 
they  arc  called  in  the  Pontifcall,  muft  be  the  North- 
end,  and  the  South-end,  which  juftificth  directly  the 
Doctors  words,when  hcaffirmeth^Jthat  thcXulrick, 
*<  (according  to  the  meaning  and  intentthercof )  is  as 
"  well  fulfilled  by  the  Miniftcr,ftandtngat  the  North 
e(  end  ofth'-.-  Table,  placed  slong  the  wall,  as  at  the 
"  nort/jjidcoftlie  ll'.me  Handing  towards  the  window. 
I  hope  you  have  no  caufc  to  brag  of  this  difcoveiy. 
That  which  comes aftcr,conccrnctl? the  tranflarion  of 

CO  ?*y>f.  the  book  of  Common  prayers(«)by  W*Ucr H addon  JL$ 
you  conjecture  :  which  you  except  againft,  as  recom- 
.  mended  to  a  few  Colledgcs,and  not  untothc  Church 
of  /  vgldnd :  nnd  yet  acknowledging  in  your  margin, 
that  it  was  rccomendcd  unto  all  the  Colledi?cs,  which 
are  the  Seminaries,  no  doubt,  of  the  Church  of  Eng- 
I  And.  2. That  it  never  was  confirmed  by  Aft  of  Parlia- 
incnt,orbyK./-»wwhis  Procl.iinath>n)hut  take  no  no 
tice  of  the  autliori/Jng  thereof  under  the  great  Seale 
of  QF.lizAbethfiQ  leile  effectual  for  that  purpofc  than 

YOivig.ry.  •     a  Proclamation.  3.  That  inthat!ranflation(f)the  €4- 
Itndtris  full  of  Saiots3  and  fomc  of  them  got  intor<r^ 

(cartel^ 


^xjisL 


fc drltt  \  (had  it  been  black  fcarlet,  or  fomc  other  co-  ^jao  2- 


Iqur,  it  had  been  more  confiderable)  which  howfoe- 
ver  it  may  caft  fomc  fcandal  on  the  Qiieen( whom  you 
have  2  ftitch  at)  is  nothing  to  the  prejudice  of  that 
tranflation  of  the  Kubrick.  4. That  Dr  Ff£//*£<r,when 
he  was  a  young  man, was  fct  by  Its  Vnclc,  the  Dttnt  of 
Pauls  ,to  translate  it  again  into  Lat;ne>\\hkl\  makes  you 
think  that  other  verjion  wot  either  exhaufted^r  mijliked. 
Mifliked  you  cannot  fay,rill  you  bring  a  rcafon  j  and  if 
it  was  fo  foone  exhaufted,it  is  a  good  argument  that  it 
was  well  done,  and  univcrfally  received .  La/11  y,  you 
fly  to  your  old  fhift,aifirming,that  thofe  times  confi- 
dered,the  Liturgie  vwstranfated  rather  to  comply  with 
thcforraign,  than  to  reigle  and dire  ft  the  Englifl)  Chur 
ches.  Which  were  it  fo,  ytt  it  makes  nothing  to  this 
purpofc.For  whether  it  bcparsjcptwtriwdisttie  nor- 
thcrnepartjOr  latw  feftentrionalc,  the  northern  fide,it 
muft  be  equally  difpleailng  to  the/wrujgji  Cbnrcbcs, 
(for  you  mean  oncly  thofc  of  the  Church  of  RoMC)iti 
which  the  Triefl  officiating  is  injoyned  to  (land  in  me 
dia  AltarujN\t\\  his  back  towards  the  people ;  being  a 
different  way  from  thatprefcribed  the  Mimfter  in  the 
Liturgie  of  the  Church  ot  England.  Ccrtes  you  doc 
but  dnllie  in  all  you  fay ;  and  (hew  your  feifc  a  ferious 
trifler,butaforrydifputant. 

Securi  de  faint e>  de gloria  certemui  (g.)   \  muft  have  (g;Taeir.di 
one  pull  more  with  you  about  th is  .K#£mi  j  andfince  vu>A5nc' 
J^ou  give  fo  ftirean  hint,  about  the  Stattttcv/hich  con- 
firnic-s  it;  The  Parliament  i.ofQii.  Elizabeth  began 
3.\.Wtfimin$trtlAn.i%,  //^.i^jS.  and  there  continued 
till  the  8.  of  tjMay  next  following :  in  which  there 
paflcd  the  o/#,  for  uniformity  of  Common  prtyer,  and 
fervicc  oftheChttrch,  And  admini f  ration  of  the  Sacra- 

*"4 


^.4«  Together  with  this- ^  there  paiTcdano- 

ther,  whtrcby  the  C^ieene  might  delegate  whatpart 
flic  pleafed,  of  her  fupreme  power  in  Ecclefafticif^  to 
fach  CommifTioncrs  as  flic  fliould  appoint,  according 
to  the  forme  in  that  Aft  laid  downe.  Prefentlyon  the 
diflblving  of  the  filid  Parli;'tnent,the  Qneenc  fets  out 
abookc  of  Injunctions,  Aftvcttto  the  Clergic,  as  to  vhz_j 

£Ajtje  fifth's  Realms :  in  one  of  which  (M  Injunctions, 
•  .  i  J  j  •  j  i  r  •  j 

Jt  IS  clccre  and  evident ,  that  howlocvcr/0  n?<i»y  and 
fuvdry  piirtsoftbc  Rcalme^  the  Alt  ATS  of  the  Churches 
were  removed,  and  Tables  pi aced  for  the  Admin  if  rat  ion 
cfthc  SACramwt :  yet  in  fomc  other  places  the  Altars 
were  not  then  removed, uf>on  opinion  of  [inn  ether  order  19 
^ctakeniy  her  Majrjl/cs  Vifnonrs.  Tills  put  together, 
I  would  Fainc  have  leave  ro  askethis  queftion.  The 
Kubrick  ordering  that  the  {^liniJlerJkallJlandAt  tht^> 
north-fde  ofthcTable,  (there  where  tables  wcrej)  and 
in  fomaxy  places  of  this  Kingdome5the/4//d™/?4W/>£ 
as  before  :  where  fliould  the  Minirter  fland  to  dil- 
chargc  his  duty  '.  Not  in  the  middle  of  trie  Altar,  as 
was  appointed  intheLiturgicofK.  Edit.  <_x/»,  i54pi 
That  was  diilikcd  and  altered  in  the  Scrvicc-bookc  of  If 
ihcyecrc  1551.  confirmed  this  Parliament.  Nor  on  » 
the  north  fwtj&  you  call  ajfr/itv  for  thnt  fuppofeth  fuch 
.1  fituation,as  was  not  proper  to  the  Altar.  Therefore 
it  nuift  be  at  ^northern  cnd>  or  nat rower  fide  there 
of  ,as  before  was  Hiid  5  or  elfe  no  Service  to  be  done, 
no  Sacraments  adminiflred.  The  Parliament  was  fo 
farre  from  determining  any  thingtouchinc;  the  taking 
downc of  Altars,that  a  precedent  Aft  i  <J\lAr.  cap.  3. 
for  puniflimentoffuch  as  (I'.ould  deface  them,  was  by 
them  continued.  This  was  left  folcly  to  the  Qaecne, 
•the  Metropolitan  and  ConimifTtons«,  tobedonea  or 

not  • 


( J77 

hot  dorte,  as  might  fccmc  mod  convenient  to  them  .•  Cap.  i, 
and  yet  the  Parliament  confirmed  that  Rnbrick  for 
fanning  at  the  north  fide  of  the  table.  And  for  tlicgiteen, 
the  BP  yeclds  it  in  his  lcttcr,that  (he  and  her  Commifi- 
oners  (or  as  your  altered  Copiehathit,  jlxcandhcr 
Cenn(cll)rvcre content  the  /-  ItarsJIwtM  flan  J  Hill  as  be 
fore  they  did  :  the  Inunction  leaving  it  asa  thing  indif- 
fercnt,and  efn*  great  moment,  fo  that  the  Sacrament  bt 
duly  and  reverently  tfifwff//frM.Ncithcr  did  the  Com- 
wif toners  in  their  Vifitarion,  determine  aoy  thing  for 
taking  downe  of  Altars,  where  they  found  them  ftan- 
ding,that  we  can  meet  with  in  their  Orders  of  the  yeer 
1 5  6 1 .  Nor  need  you  ftick  at  the  word  Table,  mentio 
ned  in  the  Kubrick,  confirmed  in  that  Parliament,  as  if 
that  did  imply,  or  intimate  the  neccflary  taking  down 
of  Altars.  For  you  your  felfe  havetold  us,  that  fa- 
crificc  and  Altars  being  relatives,nofooner  C)  was  the  (i)pag.  rf, 
facrifce  abelifled)  but  thcfe  (call them  wh.it  jve  will)  Art 
n9  mtrt  \^4ltars^  but  tables  offline  And  timber  5  in  the 
Epiftlc  to  the  Vicar.  So  then,  that  which  was  once  an 
Alt ^r ',  when  there  was  zfacrtfcc,  (the  facrifce  of  the 
JV/4/^you  mean)  is  now  become  a  table  onely,  as  your 
fclfc  conceives  it,  whether  of  (lone  or  timber,  that's 
no  way  materiall :  and  therefore  (landing  as  they  did 
when  the  Att  was  made,  the  Minifter  could  not  pof- 
fibly  officiate  atthe  jmrw-jftfcjUnlcftc  you  call  the  nar 
rower  end,  a  fide,  as  the  Doflor  doth  ;  and  as  your 
fclfedoe,didyou  underfland  your  fclfc,  out  of  the 
Pwttfictff.  Bolides,  the  meaning  of  the  Ac^  is  to  be 
confidcrcdj  not  the  words  alone  :  which  was  to  fixe 
the  Minifter  to  fome  ccrtainc  pofture.   For  in  K.  Ed. 

\*vW/firft  Liturgie,  ^n.  1549.  the  Miniftcr  was  ap. 
pointed, as  before  is  faiJ,  tofbuid  inmcd*  <^ilurlst 
with  l 


\    r  ~  f 

with  his  back  towards  the  people.  After,  when  as 
the  King  had  commanded  to  take  downc  the  Alt  An 
and  to  fct  up  r^/«,  then  followed  firfta  difTerencea! 
bout  the  fituarion  of  thofe  TMcs  ;  fomc  being  fitted 
like  ///;*/•/, and  fomc  like  ttbles^  according  as  we  have 
it  in  the  Arts  and  Monuments,/wf  i.p ^.700.  Here- 
upon  followed  that  confufion  which  Miles  Huff Ar4 
fpcakcsof,  amongft  theMiniftcrsthemfelvcs  :/ow<^ 
JtMdi'Hgtionh.warel,  fomc  font  h.w.ird,  undfomcwtft- 
ward.  I'or  remedy  whereof,  it  was  appointed  in  the 
fccond  Liturgie,  thathee,  theMinifter,  fliould  have 
fomcccrtainc  point,  whereupon  to  fixe:  your  fclfc  af. 
firming,  (k)  that  this  contention  w*s  determined  by  tke^> 
ilubrick,y/////>;/Wfj  for  the  Nortli-fide  of  the  TMe. 
So  that  the  meaning  of  the  Kubrick  being  onely  this, 
toaffignc  the  Miniftcr  fomc  certain  point  whereon  to 
fuftcnhisafpccl,  inhisofliciating  attheholyr^/c^.* 
that  meaning  is  afwcll  complycd  withall,  inftanding 
at  the  north  or  narrower  fide  thereof,  placed  alon« 
the  wall;  as  (landing  at  the  longer  fide,  with  one  end 
towards  the  Eaft  great  window.  Nay  I  will  goe  a  lit 
tle  farther,  and  put  it  to  confidcration,  (and  no  more 
than  fo)  whether  the  Kubrick  ordering  that  the  Mi 
niftcr  (hull  ftand  at  the  North  fide  of  the  Table,  doth 
not  imply  the  Tables  (landing  Altarwife,  clofc  along 
the  wall ,  if  within  the  Chancell ;  and  clofe  to  the 
partition,  if  within  the  Church.  And  I  propofeiton 
thisground  :  Becaufe  in  cafe  it  had  been  meant  in  the 
compofureofthat  Kubrick,  that  the  holy  Table 
fliould  (land  endlong,  and  farre  off  from  the  wall,  or 
the  partition,  the  fitted  pofhirc  for  the  Miniftcr  had 
x-cneat  the  Jvft-cnd  thereof,  with  his  face  down 
wards,  towards  the  people.  Ccrtainc  1  am,  that  in 

that 


that  pofture  hcwould  be  beft  both  fccn  and  heard  of  Cap.  2. 

all  the  Congregation,  (better  by  far  than  (landing  at 

either  fidcthereof  cither  north  or  fouth)  which  feems 

to  be  the  thing  nioft  flood  upon  in  the  Bifliops  letter 

to  the  Vicar.  But  I  propofc  this  oncly  as  a  confidcra-  * 

tion5Iaffirmcitnot. 

Next,weemuft  follow  you  to  the  third  Argument 
ofiheDo&or,drawncfrom  the  excrcifc  of  that  fu- 
prcinc  power//;  Kcclefutficis^ which  is  inverted  in  the 
King.  For  granting  (i)  that  the  Kingmay  comwtwda  ^)Ha*-4*« 
greater  matter  of  this  nature,  ikanthatthcT*blcjl;>9itld 
be  pUced  where  the  (^f  I  far  feed :  you  oncly  fume  to 
doubt  (nij  whether  his  Majcfty  hath  any  way  decla-  Cm)PaS'  J*« 
red  his  pleafure ,  that  hec  would  have  it  fo  or  not. 
Before,  you  asked  tlie  Doctor  where  the  King  com. 
tnwdcdK  ,  as  fr'not  any  thing  but  an  cxprefle  com- 
mandjhad  the  power  10  ftir  you :  when  other  men,  as 
•wifeas  you,  havcthought  the  intimations  of  a  Prince, 
in  matters  (")  of  indifferent  vat  arc,  (as  you  acknow-  (n)Ti*Piji*f 
ledge  this  to  be)  fufficient  inducements  for  a  fuhje^l  y*'nz} 
to  conforme  thereto.  Now  you  have  changed  your  '» 
ftylc,  and  oncly  ftand  onthcdcnyall,  that  his  inort  ''•«" ' 
facred  Majcfty  hath  not  in  this  cafe  declared  bi<plc<t.  (**"«>?•*• 
(itrc :  you  nicane,  perhaps,  not  fo  declared  it,  asthnt 
it  pleafeth  you  to  obey  his  pleafure.  The  Doctor 
faith  (°)  in  briefe,  that  his  facred  Maiefic  bath  hereupon  (°)  Cl^>  P< 
already  declared  hi  f  pleafure  in  t  he  cafe  of  S.  Grcgories, 
And  thereby  given  encouragement  to  the  'JWctrcpolitans, 
Bifiops,a.ndothcr  Ordinaries ,to  require  th:  like  in  aft  the 
Churches  commit  ted  to  them.  Your  anfwer  is  asfliort, 
but  not  halfc  fo  fwcet,(r)  that  \\is  Moft  untrue,  that  his  ^  pi"' j8' 
fJMaicfly  hath  declared  in  that  Ail ,one  word  of  his  pie*. 
fttc  hcreufw :  i.  e.  (as  you  expound  your  fclfc)  a. 

gainf 


(60) 

gainfl  the  contents  of  tie  Bffiops  letter.  Moft  gravely 
Tpokcn.  What  had  his  M^jcfty  to  doe  with  the  Bi- 
jhops  letter t  thathee  fhouldfignifie  his  pleafure  there 
upon,  when  as  the  merit  of  the  fame  was  not  called  in 
queftion?   ^quila  non  capitwufcat,  you  know  the 
proverbe.  The  bufindtc  then  inqueftion,  was  the 
Handing  of  the  Table  in  S.  Cregorics  Church^  which 
by  the  Ordinary  there,  was  placed  \^4ttar  wife  /and 
his  moft  facrcd  Mujefty  did  thereupon  declare  hisple*. 
fure  ,  proving  And  confirming  the  Ail  of  the  faid  Or- 
dinAry .  You  chulenge  this  as  moft  untrue ,znd  prcfcnt- 
ly  fall  foule"  on  the  poore  man,  for  libelling  AgAinf  the 
Eijhop,  malicious  falfifying  of  his   Authirs  in  every 
•fAgc :  and  finally  ('yourowneturne'ferved)for  com- 
ming  to  that  height  ofimfnd(ncy,zst>oncreosin  ctelttm, 
to  out-face  heaven  itfclfe ,  find  wi [report  the  iujlicc  of 
fo  divine  A  <JMaiefty.  Why  fo  '.  Jkcaufe,  fay  you,  if 
we  A!) fir utt  from  this  Declaration,  (which  the  bold  man 
hath -printed  for  an  Act  of  Ccunfetl)  the  allegations, 
which  Af,thc  faid  bold  fellow,  tallcth  the  relations  of 
lath  parties  -3  and  his  (JMaiejlics  inftplcafnrcfor  the  dif. 
folving  of  the  appeale  :  the  remainder  will  prove  A  full 
confirmation  of  the  Ji  i  flops  letter.  If  fo,  then  (i)  fiangc 
lei'es  caliimos,  &  ft  i  tide  Thalia,  libellos^  the  Dodor 
tooke  much  pains  to  little  purpofc.  And  that  it  is  To, 
you  arc  percmpiorie,  as  in  all  things  elfe,  becaufe  the 
Declaration  tells  us,  "  That  the  liberty  given  by  the 
"Communion  bookc,  or  Canon,  for  placing  the 
"  Communion  Table  in  any  Church  or  Chappcll 
"  with  moft  convcniencie  ,  is  not  to  be  undcrftood, 
"  as  if  it  were  ever  left  to  the  difcrction  of  the  Paridi, 
"  much  Icfle  to  the  particular  fancic  of  any  humorous 
,  but  to  the  judgement  of  the  Ordinaric,  to 

"  whofc 


'1? 


"  whofe  place  and  function  it  doth  properly  belong  Cap. 
"  to  give  direction  in  that  point,  both  for  the  thing  it 
<c  felf,and  for  the  time  when  and  how  long,as  he  may 
<c  finde  caufe.  Thefuarehis  Matie»  words  indeed,w^- 
tis  aure&  verb*  bratfcata  ,  as  you  rightly  call  them  : 
but  they  oppofc  not  any  thing  thatthe  Doctor  faith. 
You  findc  not  in  the  Doctor,  that  the  placing  of  the 
holy  Table,  or  the  interpreting  of  thole  Canons  and 
Kubricks  which  conccrnc  it,  was  cither  left  to  the^j 
discretion  of  the  Tar./ ft  tor  to  the  Particular  fancie  of  any 
humorous  per  (on  in  the  fame  :  which  is  the  oocly  thing 
which  that  part  of  his  Majcfties  Declaration  doth  re 
late  unto.  That  which  the  Doctor  faith  is  this,  that 
by  the  declaration  of  his  Majcfties  pleafure  in  thatprc- 
fcnt  bufincflc,  there  was  inccurageincnt  given  to  the^> 
Metropolitans,  Bijleps,  rnd  other  Ordinaries  to  doe  the 
like  :  /.  e.  to  place  the  holy  table  in  the  fevcrall  Chur 
ches  committed  to  them,  ask  was  placed  in  S.'6>/g0- 
ries  by  the  Ordinary  thereof.  This  I  am  fure  his  Ma 
jcfties  words,  which  you  applaud  fo,  doe  not  contra- 
didt.  And  on  the  other  fide,  that  the  whole  Declara 
tion  laid  together,  gives  that  incouragement  to  the 
Ordinaries,  which  the  Doctor  fpcakcsof,  you  might 
plaincly  fee  ;  butth.it  your  Ordinary  had  no  mindeto 
be  incouraged  to  fogood  a  workc;  which  you  deride 
and  (corne  throughout  your  book,  as  (hall  be  flicwnc 
more  fully  in  the  next  Chapter.  Meanc time,  that  all 
the  world  may  fee,  how  wilfully  you  flint  your  eyes, 
and  ftopyour  cares,  againft  whatever  is  contained 
therein,  which  you  like  not  of  j  I  will  once  more  fee 
downe  the  (aid  Declaration,  and  after,  gather  thence 
fome  few  obfervations.either  to  cure  you  of  your  w;l- 
f  ulncfle,  or  to  fliame  you  for  it, 

A? 


At  White  Hall  the  third  day  of 


Trefeut, 
Lo:4rdB.of  Cant* 


LoiArdb.ofTork, 
Lo  Treafurer. 
Lo:  Trivie  Seals. 
Lo:D.of  Lennox. 


mojl  excellent  Majeftic. 
Lo:  Chamberlains. 
E.ofBridgwtter. 


Lo: 

M.  Treafurer. 
M  Comptroller. 

(Jhamberla'm.     M.  Secretary  Gookf. 
E.  Marfiall.  M.Secretary  Wmdcbank, 


day  was  debated  before  His 

fifK-Q**Hc^y  filing  ^n  ^oun^>  tnc 
S^fqucftion  and  difference  which 
>^&  grew  about  the  removing  of  the 
Communion  table  in  S.Gregpries  Church,necre 
the  Cathcdrall  Church  of  S.  Paul]  from  the 
middle  of  the  Chanccll  to  the  upper  end,  and 
there  placed  Altar-wife,  in  fuch  maner  as  it  ftan. 
deth  in  the  faid  Cathedrall  &t  Mother  Church, 
(  as  alfo  in  all  other  Cathedrals,  and  in  his  Ma- 

jellies 


jcftics  owneChappell  )  and  as  is  confonaot  to  Cap.  2. 
the  pra&ife  of  approved  Antiquity.  Which  re- 
movall  and  placing  of  it  in  that  fort,  was  done 
by  order  from  the  Deane  and  Chapter  of  S. 
(p4«/j,  who  are  Ordinaries  thereof,  as  was  a* 
vowcd  before  his  Majefty  by  Dr.  /(wg,and  Dr. 
Mbntfort,  two  of  the  Prebends  there.  Yet  fome 
few  of  the  Parifhioners,  being  but  five  in  num 
ber,  did  complaine  of  this  Act  by  Appeale  to 
the  Court  of  Arches,  pretending  that  the  book 
of  Common-  prayer,  and  the  82.  Canon,  doe 
givepcrmiflion  to  place  the  Communion  Ta 
ble,  where  it  may  ftand  with  mo  ft  fitnciTe  and 
convenience.  Now  his  Majefty  having  heard  a 
particular  relation  made  by  the  Conn  fell  of 
both  parties,  of  all  the  cariage  and  proceedings 
in  thiscaufe,  waspleafedto  declare  his  diflikc 
of  all  Innovation,  and  receding  from  ancient 
conftitutionsjgrounded  upon  juft  and  warran 
table  reafon?,  cfpecully  in  matters  concerning 
Ecclefiafticall  order  and  governmentjknovving 
how  eafily  men  are  drawne  to  affect  novelties, 
and  how  (bone  weakc  judgements  in  fuch  ca 
fes  may  be  overtaken  and  abufed.  And  he  was 
alfo  pleafed  to  obferve,  that  if  thofe  few  Pati- 
fliioners  might  have  their  wills,  the  difference 

thereby 


thereby  from  the  forefaid  Cathcd  rail  Mother 
Church,  by  which  all  other  Churches  depend 
ing  thereon  ought  to  be  guided,would  bee  the 
more  notorious,  and  give  more  fubje&of  dif- 
courfe  &  difptitcs  that  might  be  fpared,  by  rea- 
fon  of  S.Gregpries  (landing  clofe  to  the  wall 
thereof.  And  likewifc  for  fo  much  as  concerns 
the  liberty  given  by  the  (aid  (Common  bookcor 
Canon,  for  placing  the  Communion  Table  in 
any  Church  or  Chappcil  with  moftconveni, 
encie  :  that  liberty  is  not  foto  be  undcrftood,as 
if  it  were  ever  left  to  the  difcretion  of  the  Pa- 
rifli,  much  lefle  to  the  particular  fancy  of  any 
humorous  perfbn,  but  to  the  judgement  of  the 
Ordinary  to  whofe  place  and  function  it  doth 
properly  belong  to  give  direction  in  that  point, 
both  for  the  thing  ic  felf}and  for  the  time, when 
and  how  long,  as  hee  may  finde  caufe.  Upon 
which  confederation  his  Maiefly  declared  him* 
felfe,  That  hee  ^ ell  approved  and  confirmed  the  jlft 
oftbefaid  Ordinary, and  alfo  gave  command,that 
if  thofe  few  Parifhioners  before  mentioned, 
doe  proceed  in  their  faid  Appeale,thenthc.t>f<w 
if  the  Arches  ("who  was  then  attending  at  the 
hearing  of  the  cau(c)fhall  confirme  the  (aid  0r- 
far  of  the  af  orefaid  T)eane  and  Chaffer. 

This 


I 


This  is  the  Declaration  of  his  facrcd  Majeflie,faith« 
fully  copied  out  of  the  Regiftcrs  of  his  Counfcll- 
Table.  Out  of  the  which  I  docobferve  j  Firft,  that 
the  Ordinary  did  defatto,  remove  the  Communion- 
Table  from  the  middle  of  the  Chancell,  and  place  it 
i^dltar-rvife  at  the  upper  end.  Secondly, that  in  the 
doiogof  it,  they  did  propofcunto  themfclvcs,  the 
patternc  not  alone  of  their  ownc  Cathedral!  Mother 
Church,  but  of  all  other  CathedJalls,  and  his  Ma- 
jcfties  Chappell  j  and  therewithall  the  praftife  of 
approved  Antiquity.  Thirdly,  that  His  moft  excel 
lent  Majeily  upon  the  hearing  of  the  bufinefle,  de 
claring  his  diflikc  of  all  Innovations,  did  yet  ap- 
prove  the  order  of  the  Ordinary  ;  w  hie hflicwcs,  that 
nee  conceived  it  not  to  bee  any  variance  from  the  an 
cient  conftitutionsof  this  Church.  Tourthly,  that  all 
fArochUll  Churches  ought  to  bee  guided  by  the  pat 
ternc  of  the  (JMotbcr  Church,  upon  the  which  they 
doc  depend.  Fiftly,  that  not  the  people ,  but  the 
Ordinary^  is  to  interpret  as  well  the  Kubrick  as  the 
Canon,  touching  the  moft  convenient  placing  of  the 
holy  Table.  Sixthly,  that  it  pcrtaineth  to  the  place 
and  function  of  the  Ordinary^  to  give  directions  in 
that  kinde,  both  for  the  thing  it  lelfc  (  bow  itjluli 
ftand)  and  for  thctime,  when  and  how  long,  ( it  /hall 
fo  fland)  ashecfindes  occafion.  And  laft  of  all,  that 
notwithftanding  any  thing  that  was  objected  from 
the  faid  Canon  and  Communion  Booke ,  his  Ma- 
jcfty  did  well  approved^  Aft  of  the  faid  Ordinary  ; 
and  not  approve  it  oncly,  but  cenfrtnc  it  too,  giving 
command  to  the  Dcanc  of  the  Arches,  that  he  mould 
finally  and  judicially  confrme  the  fame,  if  theappcalc 
were  followed  by  the  faid  Parifliioncrs.  This  is,  I 

G  trow. 


(r)Cod.I.r. 


fOUft.Inftif 
lib.|, 


not  oncly 

in  relation  to  the  pre'fent  cafc,that  of  S.Greg  cries  then 
and  there  by  him  determined  j  but  to  all  others  alfo  • 
of  the  fame  nature.  Hccthatfo  well  approved  that 
Act  of  the  Deancand  Chapter  of  S.  Pauls ;  would 
qucftionlcfle  approve  the  like  in  another  Ordinarie. 
For  being  the  cafe  is  one,  the  Chaf pells  Roja/lRilhhc 
fame,thc  (JMothcr  Churches  no  leflc  to  be  followed  by  • 
the  Parochial;  in  one  place  than  others :  why  fliould 
youthinkcthefcntence  or  decifion  fliould  bee  diffe 
rent^  Or  if  you  thinke  this  Declaration  of  his  Maje- 
ftics  pleafure  is  no  incouragemcnt  to  other  Ordinaries, 
to  bring  the  PariuV  Churches  to  conformc  with  the 
Cathedrals  in  this  particular;  becaufe  his  Majefty  doth 
not  fay,  in  termcs  exprefle,  thathee  would  alfo  very 
well  approve  the  like  in  all  other  Ordinaries  .•  you  doc 
notorioufly  bewray,  either  your  ignorance  or  wilful- 
nefie,  or  fomc  worfc  condition.  For  know  you  not 
thatMaxime  in  the  Cm//lawcs,  (')  Sententi*  Princi- 
pis\t(s  dttbium  declarant, \tisfacit  quoad ' o runes  ?  or  that 
theCivill  Lawyers  hy,RcxfolM4  ]tidicat  de  can  fa  a  jure 
HO*  defnita  ?  If  not,  confult  that  learned  cafe  of  the 
ffft-tMti,  ftatcd  by  the  Lord  Chancellour  Fgtrtin, 
pag.  1 07.  whom  you  have  elfcwherc  cited,  and  muft 
needs  have  f  eenc.  The  Declaration  of  the  Kings  plea.-  • 
fure,  what  ever  you  thinke  of  it,  is  no  trivial!  mat 
ter  :  and  that  not  onely  in  fuch  things  as  hec  fliall 
command,  but  fuch  as  hcallowcth  of,  confrmcs,  and 
fcts  his  approbation  on  them .  The  booke  of  (  f )  Inffj. 
tutfs^t you  went  no  further,  could  tell  you  fomcwhat 
to  this  purpofc :  Where  it  is  faid,  Cconftrue  it  as  you 
lift  your  fclfygHodttmquc  Itnperator  per  epiftolam  con- 

effcconfat: 

and 


and  is  to  {land  for  good  in  whatfoevcrcafe  and  bufi- 
ncfTc  of  the  fame  naturcjiinkfTc  it  be  in  pcrfonal  mat 
ters  of  premium  ^*/><rw4,andfuchlike.  Regall  decifi- 
ons  in  this  kind,arc  like  the  ruled  cafes(&  they  cal  the) 
in  the  Ctmmen  law ;  or  trie  Refyonfii  frudentum^  the 
judgements  and  determinations  of  the  reverend  Sages 
in  that  profeflion,  extant  in  their  Reports,  Terme- 
bookcs,  and  Commentaries :  Firft  made  in  reference 
to  the  caufc  which  was  then  before  them,  but  of  au 
thority  (at  the  leaft  directive  J  in  all  other  bufineffe  of 
the  like  conditional!  over-  ruled  in  open  Court  by  c- 
quall  both  authority  and  judgement.  And  it  is  a  good 
rule  in  fuch  bouts  as  this,  (l )  DC  funiltbtu  adfimilia  ///-  (t)  poQ. 
dictum  &  Argumentfyo  recipiuntur.  Laft  of all3for  the 
Canon  lawcs,j(that  you  may  fee  how  much  all  Lawcs 
condcrnne  you  for  your  obftir.ate  folly  )  what  is  the 
whole  body  of  the  Dccretals(one  of  the  grcateft  parts 
thereof)  but  a  collection  of  particular  Refer  ipts  and 
decifions  made  by  fcverall  Popes,  upon  particular  and 
emergent  cafes  '.  which  being  fomade^arc  ft  ill  remai- 
ning  on  record  as  judgemcnts,fcntencts,  or  decifion, 
for  all  and  every  cafes  of  the  like  condition  ;  I'olentes 
igitur  ut  hac  tantum  cowpilAtionc  omne suttnturjn  \ndi- 
cih&  infcholis,  as  in  the  Proemctothe  workc.  This 
is,  I  truft,  enough  to  fliicld  the  Dodtor  from  your  fu 
ry,  for  faying  onely  that  by  this  Declaration  of  his  MA- 
jcfies  pleafttre,  in  that  one  particular,  the  Mctropoli- 
tarts,  B/fiops,  ,ind  ether  Ordinaries  had  no  fwafl  incoit- 
ragcrncnt^  to  reduce  private  Parifh  Churches  to  an 
uniformity  with  their  Cathedrall.Againft  the  which, 
as  you  have  not  one  word  to  fay,  but  your  own?  :pfc 
dixit,  that  it  is  untrue  •,  an^yourownc  wcumf*tuiy 
that  nothing  (hall  perfwade  you  to  the  contrary,  as 

G  2  long 


(W 

5c&,  i .  J°n8  as  Mr.  Alderman  of  Cr :  and  the  good  people 
of  trie  DioccfTc  arc  not  pleated  withall :  To  might  we 
well  have  faved  this  labour,  and  left  you  to  the  fingu- 
Jarity  ofyour  fullcn.humour,  And  fo  I  leave  you  for 
this  time;  only,  I  cannot  choofebut  marvcll  why  you 
fhould  lay  fuch  impudency  to  the  Deftors  charge, 

fr)  p.ig.  j *.  for  („)  mjjrcfort'wg  the  Ittftjce  of  fo  divine  a  Mnjefic ; 
which  lie  reports  in  the  fame  words  he  found  it  copi 
ed  forth  unto  him;  or  calling  himiW*//V//0»i»,for  frtn- 
ting  it  for  an  \_sl(l  of  CoiHiftuJbcing  a  Declaration  of 
his  Majefties  pleafurc  at  the  Council  board^  and  which 
you  call  an  J/ltt  your  felfe,in  the  fclfc-fame  page:  or 
finally  correcting  him,  for  faying  the  Relation  of  loth 
parties,nQt  the  Allegation  ;  when. as  the  word  Relation 
onely  is  in  his  copie  of  the  Aft.  nad  he  dealt  fo  with 
you,  you  would  have  called  him  haltc  a  dozen  times, 
Animal pugnaci/imtimt  Gander,  Common  Barrett cr*3 
and  I  know  not  what:  you  being  in  this  cafe  like  the 
Cock,  that  is  well  fed  with  Garlick  before  the  light, 
who  feckcs  to  over-matcli  his  Adverfary, rather  with 
ranknefle  of  breath,  than  ftrcngth  of  body . 

*.'*'„  &*  &.  »*.  ,tJ:-  ^  »^-  Jl;«  Jtf.  &»  »<"•  »*V.  A,  & •  .'i'.  »•*•  ."V  ***>  »•<•  iff*  **,- 1'\  tjf-^V1,-  J*.  »*•  *<r*  •!%•  »fr  »!ff* 


CHAP.    III. 

Of  the  Epifcopall  authority  in  points 

mony  j  the  piety  of  the  times,  and  good 
worke  in  hand  j  and  ot  the  Evidence  produ 
ced  from  the  Acts  and  Monuments. 


T/*Mim(ler  <$LvM\*rnAttd*)met  in  the  frefent  bufmefft. 
Dtngerws  grounds  Uidbj  the  Minifterof  Linc:/or  over-throw* 

ing 


ing  the  Epifcopall  atut  Regall ptver.  Ht  mifreforts  the  meaning 
9]  the  (?**»«*// «/Ntce,f»/*f«jfr  hu  private  fpleen.The  Minifter 
of  Line:  tverthrtvrs  hi*  9»»e  former  grounds  by  newfuperftrM- 
{lures  iprotefttth  in  A  thing  Agair.ft  his  confcience.  Chavgtth  the 
2)  eft  or  with  fuck  things  M  hefindet  not  in  htm.  Denjtth  that  any 
tne  thinf  may  have  two  kyorvne  And  prof  er  Mimes  ;  therefore  that 
the  Communion  table  may  Httbe  called  AH  Altar  Alfo\*ndfor  the 
proof  thereof  dot  hfA/jtfie  his  owns  authorities.  The  D  oflcrfa/fi- 
JttJ^fratHe,  abont  tht  Canons  ofthe  jeare  1571.  The  Minister 
teholdtng  tofoms  Arch-dcacons/»r  his  obftrvations.  Their  fur- 
tailing  of  the  Bifhopsf  sivcrjin  moving  or  removing  the  Comrntl- 
Dion  taMe,  to  advance  their  otvne  The  piety  of  the  timc<}<m^ ;^* 
good  workci'»4<«w^,  declared  and  defended  agatHJi  the  impiotu 
«>nlfrofani  deripon  of  the  Minifter  of  Line.  The  teflimontes  of 
Fryth,  aad  Lambert ,  taken  out  of  the  Afts  and  Monuments, 
cleared  from  the  cavils  of  the  Minifter  of  Line.  The  Minifter  of 
LinC:  cuts  off  the  words  0/Lambcrt,  Fox,  Philpot,  and  Sifiop 
Latimcr»  andfalfifitth moft  foultlj  the  Acls  and  Monuments : 
Corrects  the  Statute  and  the  JVrtt  about  the  Sacrament  of  the 
Altar:  f  leads  fiortly  for  the  Btfljop  0/Lincol;ic  and  Deane  of 
cftminfter,!*  the  matter  »/Oy  ftcr-boards  and  Drcflen ;  and 
t  imfertinentlyfoule  OH  the  Bifiop  of  Norwich, 


Cfyt  qutscurricub  pufoeremOlympiciimctflegijfijtt-  Horat.Caim. 
*"i>4t)d'c.  ( For  ftill  I  follow  him  up  and  down  in  his  i-kkt. 
owne  fancies.)  The  Poet  tels  us  of  fomc  men  that  had 
a  great  delight  in  the  olympick  exercifcs,  in  hope  to 
\vinnc  the  prizes  which  were  there  propofcd.  Our 
Some-body ,jome  Uttinijter^fsmt  I  know  not  who,hach 
an  itch  that  wayja  great  defirc  to  get  the  prize ;  and  I 
cannot  blame  him.  Terr  Arum  Dominos  tvthit  ad  decs  ? 
What  ?  to  be  hoyfted  up  by  the  common  people,as  a 
man  more  than  mortall,  one  fo  like  the  gods,  that  it  is 
hard  to  fay  whether  he  or  lupitcr  be  the  better  man  ? 
Who  would  not  venture  a  fall,  to  find  fuch  applanfc? 

G  3  clpccially 


efpccially  confidering  with  what  cafe  it  maybe  at 
tained.  And  ccrtaincly  -in  two  things  hce  is  very  like 
them.  For  he  doth  oncly  raifc  a  diift,  cotligcre  pnl- 
vertMj  as  the  Poet  hath  it,  and  labour  what  here  can 
cvitArctnctaM,  to  flioot  as  wide  as  it  is  pofliblc  from 
the  mark  he  aimes  at :  not  caring  (fo  heclooke  like 
fome  furious  driver,  and  make  his  chariot  wheeles 
runne  onsand  rattle,)  how  it  fuccecds  with  him  in  the 
maineofthc  Argument.  In  the  laft  Chapter,  ashee 
.  tells  us,  he  hath  («)  reduced  into  a  body  nit  the  Reg.ill-^ 
'  and  in  this,  all  the  Ecclcfiiipic<ill\>o\vcr,  which  t/jcpwrc 
fellow,  \vhofoever  hee  was  that  wrote  the  Coal  from 
thc^dltar,  conceived  to  be  any  wjyppofitc^o  his  Lord- 
fhips  letter.   Tn  doing  which,  and  patching  up  a  bro 
ken  Cento, Q\\\.  of  particular  and  (by  him)  difmembred 
paflagcs,  collected  here  and  there  tumultuoufly  from 
the  Doctors  bookc  j  he  raifcth  fiich  a  filthy  duft,tbat 
one  can  hardly  fee  what  it  is  he  aimes  at  j  and  yet  he 
may  come  off  the  better,  if  he  niiffc  his  mark.   How 
ever,  having  undertaken  him,we  muft  doe  our  bcft,to 
blow  away  this  duft,  and  clecrc  the  paffiigc,that  every 
one  may  fee  his  courfes ,  and  what  poorc  fliifes  he 
ufeth  to  attainc  the  prize  hec  fo  much  longeth  for. 
The  Doctor  faith  in  fcvcrall  places  of  his  booke, 
"  That  the  Ordinary ttf bis  o\v»e  Authority,  way,  if  hcc 
"  plcafc,  A]>yohit  the  Communion-t Able t»fl And  Alt*?- 
"  n>i(k^> :  that  his  mbftfacrcdMa]cftyhath^/t;M/ii« 
"  courage-went  to  the  Bifoops  and  other  Or&inaries  fo  to 
"dOjin  hisdcdfion  of  the  cafe  about  S.Grcgories:  and 
therefore  as  the  cafe  then  flood  with  the  Doctors 
"  friend,  being  it  ws  ex  fitted  of  his  Ordinary ,  it  did 
<(  require  more  of  his  obedience^,  thin  Ins  curioftty. 
"•Othcrvvifc  fliould  allmenbefoaflfccledastodemur 

"on 


(70 

"  on  the  commands  ofthcir  Supcriours,  in  matters  of  Cap,  *i 
"  cxtcriour  order  and  publick  government,  till  they 
"  are  fatisficd  in  the  grounds  and  reafons  of  the  Did 
"  commands  ;  or  fhould  they  flic  off  from  their  duty, 
"at  fight  of  every  new  device  that  was  offered  to 
"them;  there  would  foone  be  a  fpeedy  diflblution 
"  both  of  Church  and  State^  And  to  that  purpofc 
"there  was  ufed  a  fpeech  from  Tacitm,  (b)  viz.  <"•>) H«ft.Li. 
t€  Si  ubi  \ttbeantttr  qutrere  ftngults  1: ceat •,  per  tunic  obft- 
"  quioitnpetium  et-iam  intercidit*  So  far  re  you  cicc  him 
rightly,  (which  I  wonder  at,being  a  fault  you  arc  not 
guilty  of  too  often)  favc  that  you  left  out  that  of 
every  new  device, t\\ztt  mentioned :  as  loath  to  be  con 
ceived  (*)  a  Divine  of  invention  j  affecting  as  you  do,  ^cj  ttheregs  i+ 
tobe  accounted  one  of;W^weW.What  you  rcplie  to  dttduit  butt 
this  we  ftall  forthwith  fee:  that  which  concernes  the  S^J*?1;* 

<  .  /     _  •  n  it  i-         •         tiOHjfrt.p.i, 

mcouragewent given  to  the  Bijhops  and  ether  Ordinaries > 
by  his  facred  Ma"c ,  firft  being  wiped  off  in  this  fhort 
farenthejis,(*)  the  contrary  whereof  you  haveftewcd  in  (<Qpag.vif 
the  precedent  Chapter. Short  work,bclecve  me.  You 
have  as  ready  a  way  to  confute  an  Adverfarie,  as  hce 
that  undertooke  to  confute  the  CAY  Ahull,  with  thefe 
two  words,  (JMentiri*  Bellarmine.  But  finceyou  doc 
appcaletoyourperformaece  in  that  Chaptcr,\ve  mnft 
obfcrvcyour  method  alfo,(being  you  arc  fogood  an 
Jlrtif )  and  tell  you  with  more  truth,  though  not 
more  words  5  that  /  ktvejhewfte  the  twtrary  in  thz^ 
former  Chapter ,  to  that  which  you  affirme  in  this  fo 
bravely. 

Your  anfwer  to  the  next  is  rnorc5but  not  more  ma- 
teriall.  The  Doftor  told  you  that  the  Or  din  fine  of  his 
cwne  authority,  might  (if  he  pleafed)  anoint  the  Com- 
tablets  bcfet  up  in  the  place  where  the  Jltar 
G  4  flood 


flood ,  and  there  placed  Altar-wife  as  in  the  Mother 
Churches,  and  the  Chappels  Royall.  And  he  had 
good  authority,  hcc  thought,  for  what  he  fuid  ;  His 
iacrcd  Majefty  having  fo  declared  it  in  the  dccifion 
of  the  cafe  about  S.  Gregories :  affirming  then  and 
"  there,  that  it  properly  bclongtth  to  the  place  and 
"  funclion  of  the  Ordinary ,  to  give  direction  in  that 
"  point,  both  for  the  thing  it  felfe,  and  for  the  time, 
"when  and  how  long,as  he  may  findecaufe,  0  mentis 
Aurc*  verb:  ir act  eat  a,  (c)  His  Majcittcs  Rifcript  ft  to 
bewrittenin  plates  of  gold,  inhi<,  and  ibis  onely,  con 
cerning  the  joint  cfcontroverfit_j.  However  you  ap 
plaud  not  His  Majefties  approbation  and  confirmation 
of  what  was  done  by  the  Deanc  and  Chapter  of 
S.  Pauls  ,  in  the  cafe  there  handled;  as  crofling  ex 
diametrc-  yourowne  rcfolutions  :  yet  this  particular 
claufc  you  have  feleclcd  for  an  Ettge  tuum,  a  paffagc 
not  to  be  cxtold  fufficiently.  But  not  being  conftant  to 
your  fclfe,  we  muft  expedtyou  fliould  confute  it,  and 
locate  your  words.  Nor  doe  you  meane  our  cxpe- 
Nation  fliould  be  frudrate.  For  entringon  a  vainc 
difcourfc  of  Epifcopall  government,  which  is  to  be, 
you  fry,  by  (f)  Canon  Law,  not  by  Canon  foot  :  you 
fall  to  telling  us,  that  they  neither  bsivc,  nor  challenge 
^ny  exorbitant  fewer  over  their  Clergie,  Lawcs,  Canons, 
and  \^icls  of  Parliament  (with  a  ^Vs*^*?,  (cfyecially 
ever  Atts  of  Parliaments ;)  that  they  muft  govern  *>ith 
a  power  of  moderation,  not  of  domination^  \\Mit  fitting 
in  their  Ch.iircs  they  are  to  \udge  according  tt  the  Ca~ 
no»sy  and  not  of  the  Canons  :  ($)  that  whdtfuver  power 
the  Prelates  had  in  formcrtimes  of  making  Cawns,  and 
in flt  Cling  penalties  mtlithmc,  it  was  all  taken  from 
jhcmby  K.  tfertry  8..  and  therefore  if  the  Ordinaries 


noiv  £  tmm  And  where  t  here  it  n*  C  won  in  force  y  it  layts 
A  burden  And  grievance  upon  the  fitb\e{fs,  frcm  which 
they  may  tppcale  AS  A  thing  un]tifl :  ^ppeafcs  being  in 
the  Canon  Law,  ?&  Ancient  in  the  Chart  h  of  God  as  the 
Canons  tbcrr.Jelvcs ;  and  pur pofcly allowed  of,bccaufe 
poffibly  a  Prelate  may  propcfc  unto  himfelffomc  pecvifi, 
wrangling  &nd  vea^ijlt  humour  of  his  cwnc,  infieadtfa 
Canon.  Hereupon  you  conclude,  (whatever  hath 
becne  faid  ofhis  facrcd  t^fajeftie  in  thofc  his  mentis 
aurc*  verba  bracleata)  that  it  is  untrue,  (^}  that  the  Or-  (h;  p 
dinary  hath  any  authority  ofhis  o\vn>  (as  he  is  Ordinary) 
10  place  the  holy  table  in  one  or  other  filiation.  And 
therefore  for  your  part,  (Let  the  King  ufc  his  flea- 
fitrein  approving  and  confoming  what  he  hath  a  mind 
to, )  0)  iheLidtrgie  cwt  tutting  <u  it  is,}  o*  had  far  leivcr 
it  he  that  jbottld obey  (without  offence  to  any  man  in  place 
be  itfyekeri)  than  he  that fiottld  peremptorily  command  in 
this  kindeef  Alteration.  And  as  for  the  obcdicnccof 
the  people,  the  Ordinary  may  indeed  expect  it,  (k)  If 
bee  command  according  to  the  Larees  And  Canons  con. 
firmed,  for  otherwife  he  is  in  his  exccntricks,  and  moves 
xtt  *s  he  ought  t»  doe :  Nay,  ifthe  Ordinary  fliould 
command  where  there  is  (lj  no  law  or  former  Canon  in 
ftrce,  bcingitisathiog  «^/«/?thnt  he  fliould  fo  doe, 
it  is  by  conftquenc  e,  of  a  nature,  w  hereunto  obedience  is 
nt  way  due.  (m)  Not  that  you  would advije  any  Clergie. 
man  of  what  degree  fozvcr,  to  oppoft  his  Ordinary,  either 
in  this  sr  any  other  particular  effo  low  a  naturt_j  ;  No, 
God  forbid  ;  you  have  more  wit  I  trow  than  fo  j  but 
that  you  have  a  mindc  to  lay  fuch  grounds,  as  any 
factious  fpiritmay  fly  out  upon,  without  more  advi- 
fmg.  I:or  tell  mce,  to  what  purpofe  clfc  is  all  this dif- 
courfc  <  His  Majcfty  bcii.g  the  bcft  Interpreter  ofthc 


,  hath  left  the  matter  abfolutely  unto  the  Ordi. 
ttArky  as  properly  belonging  to  his  flace  Andfttnftion  : 
yet  if  the  Ordlnarie  doc  command  it,  hee  is  in  his  ec- 
centricks  ,  commands  a  thing  for  which  there  is  no 
law  or  CAttont  judgcth  not  by  the  Canons,  but  of  the 
Canons,  govcrncs  his  Clergieasa  Gcnerall  doth  his 
Army  in  a  drunken  mutinie ;  rather  affcds  a  domin.i* 
tion  than  a  modtrAtitn  ,  and  finally  propofcth  fomc- 
\vhat  out  of  a  peevifli,wranglingsand  wafpifli  humour, 
to  which  obedience  is  not  duc^nonfime  fife f res, "What 
(n)  litre  i:  m  is  this  (n )  up  and  dovvnc  thinkc  you,  /.  C.  or  T.  C.  as 

*L'ul'*n£dtirn  y°u  phrak  ll  ?•'&•  7°  *  This  is  an  excellent  kindc 
f-ro'.  '  of  Argumentation ,   to  weaken  not  alone  the  Ef>if. 

copdll,  but  the  RcgaO,  power :  as  if  the  one  had  no  au 
thority  to  interpret  Kubricks  ;  nor  the  other  to  pro 
ceed  according  unto  that  interpretation.  Hec  that  can 
gather  any  better  conclufion  from  fuch  factious  pre- 
mifes,  muft  have  fomc  Lincoln  Logick,  which  never 
grew  in  either Univerfity.  I  will  not  tell  you  here, 
that  I  conjecture  you  doe  aime  at  fomc  particular,  in 
this  extravagant  difcourfe  j  as  if  all  matters  of  the 
Church  were  carried  in  a  higher  ftrainc  than  they 
ought  to  be  ;  bccaufc  in  a  more  orderly  and  canoni 
cal!  way  than  your  qucafie  ftomack  can  admit  of:  but 
I  muft  tell  you  needs,  that  you  have  falfified  moft  a. 
bominably  the  Cwncetttf  Nice.  You  tell  us,it  is  pofli- 
blc,a  Prelate  may  propofe  unto  himfelf  fomefeevijh, 
wrArtgling^Mid  wtftifl)  humour  of  his  ownc  in  (lead  of 
a  C:\non ;  from  which  there  lyeth  an  Appctlt  by  the 
Canon  Law :  And  for  that  purpofe  cite  thofc  words 
of  the  Councell  of  Nice,  cap.1).  Mwyo4«^/«i  ?AO;<W*,  t>  w^ 
Tw«^  au^k.  But  as  you  doc  tranflate  them  falfely9  for 
your  private  aime  3  fo  you  have  made  the  Councell 

fay 


fay  what  it  never  meant.  ThcCouncell  fpcaks  not  Catx  i2 
there  of  any  poflibility  3  that  Bifhops  fhould  propofc 
unto themf elves  their  ovfncpecv/Jhtw*Jj>iJh,wr4ttgli*g 
humours,  in  ftcad  of  Canons.  All  that  it  faith  is^this, 
E£«7«£te»A&c.  (°)  "  It  is  required  that  no  man  fhotild  fo)  Condi/ 
"  bee  excommunicate  by  his  Bifhop  ,  cither  out  of 
"  weakncflc-jftomac*;,  or  any  other  kind  of  harflinefTe^ 
<f  &  that  there  fhould  be  Synods  twice  in  every  yeer, 
*(  for  the  particular  examination  of •fuchm-lM^»-«f  °-»" 
you  this  a  propo^H  *f  tl-\11  ovvn  waipifli,  wrangling 
cnd^ccviih  humours,  in  (lead  ot  Canons?  But  that 
you  have  a  Licence  to  fay  what  you  lift,  you  duift  ne 
ver  have  faid  it. 

And  yet,  I  thinke  wee  may  forgive  you  both  this 
and  that  extravagant  difcourfe  which  before  wee 
fpakc  of.  Tor  you  have  made  us  very  faire  amends, 
Amends  ftr  Ladies  faith  the  play,  in  that  which  fol- 
lowcthjand  foconfuteyour  felfcto  favc  rnea  labour. 
You  tell  us  out  of  BP  Si/fen,  (?)  That  whatfiever  by  the 
Liivts  ofGed^  the  Prince^  or  the  Church,  is  enct  conft  it  it- 
led  is  no  longer  tff  he  mooted  upon,  hut  absolutely  obey, 
ed  ly  all  tnferieurs.  And  what  Cod^  the  King*  andthc^f 
Church  have  dire  fled,  is  not  to  be  put  to  deliberation,  but 
+9  execution.  Your  Author,  a  moft  reverend  and  lear 
ned  man,  fpcaks  plainer  than  you  doe,  who  doe  affeft 
moft  miferably  in  all  your  fty  le  too  much  of  the  Bar- 
riftcr.  0)"  What  is  decreed  (faith  hec)  by  Supcri-  fa)  PtrFet.it- 
<cours,  muft  not  by  inferiours  be  debated  whether  it  r«w;wo/c/;. 
<cfliall  take  place  or  no;  but  be  rather  obeyed  with 
"rcadincffc.  So  that  in  all  cafes  determined  by  the 
"lawcsof  God,  the  Church,  and  the  Prince,  conful- 
"tationisbothfuperfluous  andpreiumptuous  j  cxe- 
"cution  is  onely  nccdfull.  And  now  I  would  af- 

fumc 


fume,  did  I  notthinkc  it  would  offend  you,  but  by 
the  King  it  is  determined,  that  it  doth  properly  belong 
ante  the  Ordinarie  to  place  the  Communion  Table 
where  hcethinkcs  moft  fitting,  in  reference  both  to 
place  and  time,  £r£0,what  ever  you  have  faid  in  your 
laftdifcourfc/iscithcrtoa  very  factious  and  unduti- 
full  purpofe,  or  to  none  at  all.  In  the  next  place,  you 
grant  it  to  be  true  as  thcDoftor  faith,  (r)  That  in  aS 
J*'ibts  that  dec  arife ,  hew  to  understand,  doe^  and  execute 
the  things  contained  m  >u  *.;»«..£/>,  a  deciding  power 
is  left  to  the  Bijbop  of  the  Dioceffe  :  But  then  yuu  fay, 
(f)  It  is  &  true,  that  the  Dotftr  dafycth  out  with  an  <jrc. 
the  mtineprovifo  of  this  power  -,fi  that  the  fame  be  not 
contrary  to  any  thtng  in  this  botke.  What  then  {  There 
fore  it  is  untrue, that  tt^e  Ordinarie  hath  an  authority  ef 
his  owne  (ts  he  is  Or  dinar  ie)to  place  the  holy  Table  in  one 
tr  other  fitnation,  wore  than  what  is  given  him  (  in  cafe 
if. doubt  and  divcrftty  ondf)  by  the  fire  faid  Preface. 
This  is  juft  hide  and  feeke,  or  the  blind-mans  buffe. 
The  Preface  gives  the  Ordinarie  a  diciding  power,  in 
cafe  of 'doubt ing  or  diverfitie^nd  in  that  cafeoncly  :yct 
when  there  is  a  doubt,  and  difference  about  the  pla 
cing  ofthe74^/tf,  cither  he  hath  no  fuch  deciding  po 
wer,  orclfc  may  not  ufc  it.  The  Ordinarie  hath  no 
authority,  but  what  is  given  him  by  the  Preface,  and 
the  Prefacegivcs  him  an  authority  which  he  may  not 
CO  Horat.de     excrcif  c.  Thcfe  arc  like  fick  mens  dreames,  (c)  Cttjttf, 
i-clut  ,ngri  fwmia,  vanx  Fingiintnrfyccics,  things  of  ill 
coherence.  Ami  if  you  hope  to  favc  yourfclfe  by  the 
provifo,/0  that  thcfimc  be  not  contrary  to  any  thing  in 
this  £*0£,youare  wide  as  ever:  that  contrariety  which 
you  dreame  of,  being  taken  away,  by  that  decifion  of 
his Majefty, which  you  have  honoured  with  yourEu- 

logic 


art«. 


logic  oftncrtttf  Mre*.  Nay  you  goe  further  at  the  Iaft,  Cap.  3 , 
and  cut  your  ownc  throat  with  your  ownc  weapon  : 
(u)  Affirming  that  in  a  cafe  ef  doubt,  diversity,  And  am-  («)  pag.  rtfo. 
biguity,the  Bifiop^  or  Ordinary,  is  punctually  tobe  obeyed 
by  thofe  of  his  jurisdiction  :  excepting  oncly  when  his 
faidcff  maud  dot  b  exprejly  oppofi  AN  Article  of  the  belief  e, 
one  of  the  ten  Commandcments,  or  the  general! Jl  ate  and 
fubfiftcncc  of  Gods  Catholikc  Church,    \  thinkc  you  are 
not  of  opinion,  that  placing  the  Communion  Table 
4ltar-wifa  isexprcfly  oppofueto  cither  of  the  three 
here  mentioned :  being,  as  you  profeflc  clfe- where,  a 
(x)  circamftance  indifferent .  Nor  fhall  you  challenge  (n)  m  Dij!)»p 
me  for  leaving  out  your  preamble  to  this  rcfolution,//*  '»•'"»£  «'•« 
he  command  according  to  the  laws  andCanons  confirmed:  ^'^tl^r 
unlelTcyoucan  makegood,which  I  think  you  cannot,  this  circum- 
that  any  thing  commanded  according  to  the  lawcs  Pmce>?-*' 
and  Canons  confirmed,  may  oppofe  exprefly  An  Arti 
cle  of  the  faith  jnt  of  the  ten  Cowmandcments,  or  the  gc- 
nertU'ftltflftence of  Gods  Church.  lkfidcs,that  in  your 
following  words  you  fpeakc  more  generally,  without 
relation  unto  larve-s  and  Canons  confirmed^)  that  in  all  (y;  \vy(). 
other  ctfeswhatfoc-ver  that  are  dubious ,  the  infer  tour  is 
bound  to  belee've  his  Super ieur.  This  yoint,  you  fay,  well 
poifedjwouldclear  a  world  of  errors  both  in  the  Church  & 
Common-wealth '3{>i\t  was  here  handled  either  very  im 
pertinently, or  againft  your  fclfe. Tor  your  Protejltt\\^x 
(x)you  have  not  heard  of  any  L*  Bifrop'thst  hath  exacted  COPJ£-** 
of  his  niece/ft^  t  he  placing  of  the  holy  table,  as  this  in.m 
would  have  it'i(*)crcdat  lud&m  Appen4,Non  ego.  I  <:m  too  (\)  llorat. 
well  Jicquainted  with  you,totakc  upany  thing  on  cre 
dit.  For  harkcyou  in  your  care,\vhat  meane  the  blea 
ting  of  thofe  fhecp  ^  (b)  this  fellow Cs  j umbling  againft  Ck)?3"-^. 
tic  King  and  the  EifltfpjAnquaw  Rcge  cum  Rcgulo^  like 

A  Wren 


Sect.  iT 


(e):n  ere  Cntlt 


(Opag.fr. 


•*  Wren  wanted  on  the  feathers  of  an  Eagle  {  You  are 
not  fuch  a  Sphinx,  I  hope,  but  you  may  mcctan  Ocdi- 
f  &  *t  onetime  or  other.  And  pruy  you  tell  me  ere  we 
part,whcthcr  did  you  borrow  that  trim  conceitout  of 

&***»' fr«*(yrp»i**>™ le™ y<™it  to  H.B.  before 
nandjtolry  how  it  rclifhed?  An  excellent  piece  it  was 
beleeve  me,  and  fuch  a  one  rs  doth  dcfcrvc  the  guer 
don  in  rirgtls  Eclogue,  (<*)  Et  vital*  tit  dignn*,&  ille. 
Having  thus  battered  downethe  Epifcapall  power, 
for  placing  ordifplacing  the  Comumon  Table,which 
yet  ftandsfaft  enough  for  all  your  affaults  5  you  fally 
next  upon  the  Vic  AT,  Monnfienrthc  halfe  Vicar  ^  («)ag 
youcallhim.  Angry  youarcat  fomewhat,  but  you 
dare  not  fay  what.  Where  doth  thcDodor  fay(as  you 
charge  upon  him)that  Mfunftcnr  thebalfe  Vicar  flwild 
kwcyowtr  toremo<ve(ofhiso}vne hc<td)thc  Ctmmunitn 
Tablc-jr  tocxllthat  an  Altar,  tv/;/V/;/;/>Rubrick  calls  4 
Table,<iw^wtf  othcrwife-Jo  be  inabledtodt  this  by  the  Ca 
nons  ,  and  to  Itc  liidgc,  yea  4  more  competent  ludgt  oftbt 
convtnicncy  of  the  funding  thereof  .than  f£;Ordinarie, 
and  his  Surrogates  'ynot  permitting  the  Church-officers 
to  floe  what  they  are  in}oynedby  their  immediate  Sttperi- 
curs  ?  Thefe  Myrmidons,  I  afliiicyou,  fwarmcd  out  of 
ydurftrong  fancy  only,  and  are  not  extant  any  where 
inthe  Doftors  bookes  nor  by  you  hud  led  up  in  your 
broken  Cento.  You  onely  charge  the  Doftor  there, 
( f)  for  faying  that  the  Vicar  mi»ht  dcftre  to  havf  an  ///. 
/xr,  i.e.  to  have  the  Communion  7  able  placed  A 1  tar- wife, 
at  the  upper  end  of  his  Quire.  And  why  not  fo^Dcfirc 
to  have  a  thing  done  thus, and  thus,  implies  not  any 
grant  of  power  to  doc  it.  To  have  a  power  of  ones 
ownc  head  to  remove  \\\c  Table,  and  to  deflre  to  have 
the  TabJcplaced  ^Itar-rvifc  5  are  asfarrc  afundcr,as 

you 


( 79) 

you  arc  from  obtainirgthe  office  of  on  ArchB.  al-  Cap*  3. 
though  perhaps  you  may  defre  it.  Nor  doth  the  Do- 
flor  lay  in  termini* ,  that  it  \vas  Uivf till  for  the  Vicar  i* 
gall  that  an  Altar,  which  the  Kubrick  calls  no  otherrvife 
than  A  Table  ;  but  that  (s)the  Epifoler  (vvhofocver  he  <s)  Cott> 
was)  had  no  ret  fin  to  -fuflsect,  that  any  propitiatory  fi 
eri  fee  IV-M  aimed  at  by  the  Vic.  of  Gr.  although  he  ttfed 
the  name  ofk\mforthe  holy  T/ible.Or  had  the  Doctor 
faid  fo  in  terms cxprcflejhad  it  bcene  either  (^nevun* 
crimcnjcx  Ante  hoc  tcmpiu  inaudititm?  May  we  be  fure, 
upon  your  word,  thatbecaufe(')  names  were  frjl  tn-  0;pag.7<- 
vented  to  divide  and  fiver  one  particular-thing  freman- 
ctheriCrt  that  a  thing  cannot  have  two  proper  anddijlwft 
names;  therefore  the  holy  Table  may  not  be  called  an 
Altar  f  Is  it  not  told  us  in  the  letter,  (k)  that  in  the  Old 
Tcfamtnt  one  tndthc  (ante  thing  is  termed  an  Altar,/W 
a  Table :  an  Altar  in  refyett  oj  what  is  t  here  offered  unto 
G*di  And  a  Table,  inreftctt  ofrvhatis  there(ov  thence) 
farticiftted  By  men.  And  have  not  you  your  fclfinfor- 
mcd  us  out  of  Cardinall  Pcren,  that  it  is  ever  called  4 
Table  when  it  points  to  the  Communion,  and  an  Altar 
when  it  points  unto  f/^facrifice,/>4£.io2.  which  alfois 
affirmed  and  granted  by  our  learned  i^fndrnvs.  I  fee 
your  memory  is  not  altogether  fo  good  as  your  inven 
tion.  Scvcrall  rejects  may  give  the  fame-  one  thing, 
two  namcsjas  fcvcrall  f<i/w  ities  to  the  fclfc-fame  pcr- 
fon.  Thcreisa  licence  to  yourbookc,  fubfigncd  lohn 
Lincoln  Dcant  tfWcJlminftr.  Iltfiop  of  Lincoln,  and 
Deane  of  Weftminflcr,  arc  two  diftincl  and  proper 
names  5  and  yet  no  doubt  you  would  bcc  forry  they 
fhould  not  both  belong  to  the  fame  one  nun.  Your 
other rcufon,  thatitfliouldnotC^bc-ccallc-dnn  Altar ^ 
bccaufc  the  Church  in  her  Liturgie  and  Canons  doc  cad 

it* 


(8o) 


h  « 


y-7j. 


Communion 


.n.i  i  . 


>but  that  an  or- 
Binary  bud-  fleet  may  be  fit  to  hold  it.  The  Liturgic 
ant{  canMs  both,  doe  call  the  Eaftcrnc  part  of  the 
Church  by  thc  namc  ofc/At^//(").The  Table  in  C<5- 
munion  time  fliall  (land  in  the  body  of  the  Church  ,or 
/>  f/;?  cbdnccll.  So  the  LitixtQK*JucT*&lcJb*ttle*U» 
cedin  fogeadfort  within  the  Church  or  Chanccll.  So  thc 
Canon(").Whatthcnc'  Thercfore,accordins  to  your 

r          ,      ^,         ,    .     ,        T-         .          j/-*s        y« 

rcafon,  the  Church  m  her  Liturgie  and  Canons  cal. 
ling  the  fame  a  Chancdl  only;  why  do  you  fuffcr  the 
Epiftolcr  fo  ofcen,  to  call  it  a  j^/W,  and  not  check 
him  for  it  '.  Or  rather  why  doc  you  lo  call  it,  having 
thc  C*;wi  and.  the  RuLrick  bothagainft  you^  That 
which  youbring  us  from  jijrb.tt  w^  (?)  that  where  rvec  • 
IWCA  LAW  And  Can  on  te  ilircti  us^  how  to  c\tllt  thingywc 
ought  not  to  hunt  sifter  rca  fens  and  conceits  {ogive  it  Aft. 
other  appellation  ,  bcfides,thatit  is  nothing  to  the  pur- 
pofe,  is  by  you  falfirlai  of  purpofe,  to  helpe  at  need. 
Bar  bat  us  hath  not  in  your  margin  any  one  fyllable, 
tjiat  J°°^'s  t'int  wa>'  :  (  ybicitnqM  tt.W<mM  legcm  vel 
CanoHtw^non  dcbcnitis  allcgarc  rationcm^nifi  Icge  vel  Ca- 
Konedeficicnte  .  Wliat  hath  this  rule  to  doe  with  names 
and  appellations,  that  fpcakes  of  neither  ?  Youfiiould 
firil  Icarnc  toconftruea  piece  of  Latine,  before  you 
take  upon  you  to  bee  a  difputant.  There  is  another 
pretty  fetch  concerning  ^Itars,  which  I  will  put  off 
to  the  fixt  'Chapter,  where  we  fliall  lookconthatdif- 
coarfe,which  you  have  given  us^picccby  piccc,ofthe 
name  of  L*^/f  4f,  though  forry  you  fliould  force  me  to 
•waftc  my  time  in  fuch  a  needleffe  ^^^*  as  this  is. 

What  fbllowes  next  in  your  Did  Cento  ?  Bccaufc 

.  (q)  for  any  thing  the  Canon  tells  us,  the  Vicar  waste 

have  A  greater  hand  in  ordering  the  f  aid  table,  than  the 

Xiflops 


(8 1) 

Bifiops  iwmedtiteefficersthe  Church-wardens  were,  or  Cap.  3. 
ought  to  have :  and  that  he  did  not  any  thing  againflthe 
Canon,  in  canfing  the  table  to  be  difjtopd  of  to  a.  more  con- 
venient  place  than  before  it  flood  in.  Where  findc  you 
.this?  Not  in  the  Doctor  certainly,  if  you  maikehim 
well.  The  Doctor  fpeaks  not  any  thing  of  the  Canons 
generally,  (as  you  make  him  fpeak)  but  of  that  one 
particular  Canon ,  which  was  alledged  in  the  letter. 
The  Vicar,asbcfore  you  charged  it,  dtfircd  to  kwc  an 
t^fltar,  i.  c.  the  Communion-table  placed  (^dltar-wijt 
at  thenpper  endofhU  gitire.    The  Bifhop  rcafoneth  a. 
gainft  this  out  of  the  Canons,  ^Anno  1571  .that  not  the 
Vicar,  but  the  Church-  wardens  were  to  provide  (ntc». 
///,  faith  your  new  Edition)  for  the  Communion,  and 
that  not  an  Altar,  but  afairejoyncd  Table.  The  Do 
ctor  hereunto  rcplyes,  OyThat  for  any  thing  thofe  (r)cttifnm  t, 
"  Canons  (and  not  the  Canon)  tell  us,  thcMiniftcr  fas  ***"> p'18' 
"  in  this  cafe  the  Vicar)  was  to  have  a  greater  hand  in 
(<  ordering  the  faid  table:  being  fo  provided,  than  the 
"  Church,  wardens  were  or  ought  to  have.  And  that 
"the  Vicar  did  not  any  thing  in  this  cafe  againft  the 
"  Canon:  (i.e.the  Canon  thenpropofed)  for  he  provi- 
"  dcd  not  the  table,  butonely  caufed  the  table  which 
"  he  found  provided,to  be  difpofed  of  to  a  more  con- 
'"venient  place  than  before  it  flood  in.  Have  you 
found  any  thing  in  thofe  Canons  that  affirmes  the  con 
trary  ?  Ifyea,  why  doe  you  not  produce  it  t  If  not, 
why  make  you  fuch  a  clamour  upon  no  occafion  f 
The  Doctor  neither  there,  nor  elicwhcre,  doth  jiuli- 
fic  the  Vicars  Act,/^  omai^nor  indeed  in  any  thing, 
if  he  did  any  thing  in  this,  againft  the  Canoncbut  faith 
in  one  (f)  place  what  he  did,  and  in  another  what  hee  (fjorf,  />.i« 
thought  (l)  to  be  moft  convenient.  Nor  could  the  Do- 
ftor  but  conjecture  out  of  the  r  re.  amble  Qt\\\<:  letter, 

H  that 


Se&.  I.'  tjiac  fhc  V'edr  did  acquaint  the  Bijby  with  his  dcfircs, 
and  found  from  him  a  toleration  at  the  leaft,  if  not  an 
approbation, as  before  I  faid.  Yet  upon  this  wcakc 
ground ,  which  will  beare  no  foundation  of  a  folid 
building,  you  runnc  into  a  long  and  vaine  difcourfe, 
of  the  authority  and  office  of  Bifiops,  Archdeacons, and 
Church-wardens :  for  oftcntation  of  your  reading,  and 
that  you  have  a  mindc  to  traduce  the  Doctor, aslfhcc 

(u)i«i/*r«     held  fome(uj  leftiticatl  tenets^  which  might  in  time 
prove  prejudicial  to  the  eflatc  ofBiflops.  All  that  I  can 
'  collect  from  thence,  is,  that  you  arc  beholding  for 
your  obfcrvations  to  one  or  more  Archdeacons  of 
your  ncere  acquaintance :  who  were  not  willing,  as  it 
Teenies,  to  take  all  this  paines  foryou,and  doe  no  ho. 
nourto  thcmfclves.  Yctletmee  tell  you  as  a  friend, 
you  truft  them  fomewhat  farther  than  a  wife  man 
would  j  and  fuffer  them  to  plume  themfelvcs  with  the 
Bifliops  feathers :  taking  that  power  unto  thcmfelvcs, 
which  you  full  faine  would  fixe  originally  in  the  Dio- 
ccf.m.  Tor  what  lay  you,  from  them,  to  the  point,  in 
hand  .'  whether  or  not  the  Vicar  ought  to  meddle 
with  the  holy  table.  It  is,  lliy  you,  (*)  not  tht  Ordina 
ry,  but  the  1^4 poft  lest  hcwfit'ves,  that  have  turned  the 
Parfons  and  Vicars  from  being  attivt  in  this  kinde,  to 
their  diviner  meditations.  It  i-s  not  reafon  that  we  JliottU 
leave  the  nordofGcdtofcrve  tables.    Since  when,/r0/w 
the  fir  (I  DfttCffrtfythen  appointed,/*  <w  (v)prefcnt  Arch. 
deacons  (in  whcfe  office  the  ancient  power  of  the  Deacons 
if  united. ind  concentred)  Incumbents  bavtbeene  exclu- 
dtdfromMtelliH*  with  the  f'ten/ils  of  the  Church,  or  Or- 
naiaents  cftbf  Alitf.  But  fie  you  not  wit  hall,  that  by 
this  reafon  theSifiups  arc  excluded  alfo^  For  were 
they  noc  thedp4/Hfsto*  whom  it  is  affirmcd,that  it  was 
no  reafon  thi«  they  thouid  leave  the  word  of  God  to 

fervc 


•" 


!L  -       -••'—*'**&)} 


fcrvc  tables?  And  who  fuftainc  the  place  and  office  of  Cap.  ^ 
the  Apoftlcs  at  this  day,  if  not  the  Bifliops  t  Sec  what 
credulity ,&  too  much  confidence  in  your  friends  hath 
brought  upon  you.I  qucftio  not  the  matter  now,mca- 
ning  to  meet  with  that  hereafter.  Bcfides,  you  fuffer 
your  Archdeacons  toufc  the  name  of  Altar  without  of- 
rencejwhich  you  conceived  to  be  fo  capital  a  crime  in 
Monfieur  Vicar.  ^Ornaments  of  the  Alt  ar^-Thc  very  '*'  **' 7f 
Alt  AT  it  fe  If  with  the  Rail  about  it,— To  wove  and  remove 
the  Altar:  A Itar  thrice  ufcdin  halfapage,8c  you  check 
not  at  it.  The  reft  of  your  difmembrcd  Cc#te,and  the 
good  fport  you  makeyour  felf,touching  the  advancing 
of  the  Church-wardens  above  their  Minifter,znd  what- 
foever  other  mreds  you  have  patched  together  for  . 
your  more  delight,  are  not  considerable  in  this  place, 
or  to  this  purpofc.  It  is  the  Doftors  undertaking,  to 
anfwer  to  your  arguments,and  not  your  fcorns :  Nor 
loves  hc,howfocver  you  like  of  it,  to  have  his  portion 
with  thofc  men  that  fit  in  the  feat  of  the  fcornfull. 

^\\\.nsn\)0num  efl  ludere  cum  Sanclis.  What  fport 
focver  you  are  plcafcd  to  make  with  him  ;  take  heed 
how  you  offend  againft  God  and  piety.  Tic  piety  of 
theft  times y  though  you  are  fully  bent  to  make  fporc 
therewith,  is  no  fuch  waking  drcame,that  you  fliould 
fctyour  fclfe  to  deride  it,  in  fogroflea  manner.  The 
Do&or  tells  us  of  that  letter,  that  it  (a)  WM  fyrcad  a  - 
broad  ofpurpofe,  the  better  t»  discountenance  that  unifor- 
wity  offublick  Order ^Q  which  the  piety  of  thefc  times 

is  fo  well  inclined-, of  purpofc  to  dijlratf  the  people, 

and  hinder  that  good  worke  is  now  in  hand.1\\\s  is  the 
game  you  have  in  fccnt ,  and  having  taken  up  the  cry, 
follow  it  up  and  downc  over  all  the  bookc  :  not  here 
alone,  where  ex  profejfo  you  purfuc  it,  but^g.  1 8  8 . 
- 15^7.214.228. 8cc.  This,bc  it  what  K  will,  you 

Ha  tell 


(84) 

Sect.  I.      te^  us>  *s as (b)>^ l*  Abeyance,  pendant  in  tfa ayre,  you 
(b)  pag  <f4.       know  not  where  ;  and  like  yer  long  to  fait  upon  tttr 
(C)  pag.Bj.      heads,  but  you  know  not  when :  (c)  thatjtf//  have  open 
ed  your  eyes  <is  videos  poffibly^w  can,  but  cannot  dtfst- 
(^PJ8-»«.       verit:  Or(d)  if  there  be  fuchan  efteciall  inclination 
of thefe  times  to  piety, it  is  a  peculiar  piety  (youaifurcus 
fo)  differing  from  the  piety  of  former  times.    And  thcre- 
(0  p-^-Sf.       fore  you  do  (c)  re*finably  presume  that  this  good  work 
in  hand  isbut  the  fccondpxrt  ofSarttfaClarajtvith  whom 
(t}iAm*fr«id   you  make  the  Doctor  tamper  in  points  of  0)  dotfrinc^ 
tb»jf  judicious    as  jn  tne  points  tfdtCcipline  with  fiwtfa-Petr*.  But  tell 

Viii/ies  thft  T  i     /»       t.  •  r  i       • 

tvnMYf*  wtfti  me  I  belecch  you,  conceive  you  uniformity,  and  «»/- 
M  ttosinne-n-iih  formhy  of  publ'tck  Order  in  the  officiating  of  Gods  di- 
la-^u  Clara,  vjne  fcrvice  to  [jC  no  vcodtvorke  ?  And  findc  you  not 

Annul  <ii:  (tf'inC     .  /•   t    r  •       i-      1  i      •  t  •    t          i 

uj.^  Sin<fu  u\<: piety  ofthcje  times,  inclinable  in  an  higher  degree 
Vcna;p.7r.  to  that  uniformity  ,  than  any  of  the  times  before? 
When  did  you  ever  finde  a  King,  that  did  fo  ferioufly 
affect  Church-wcrkc ,  or  that  h-ath  more  endeavoured 
to  advance  that  decency  and  comlincflc  in  the  perfor 
mance  of  divincOlfices,which  God  expeclcth  and  re 
quires,  than  his  ficred  Majcfty  <  His  owne  example 
in  the  conftam  keeping  of  the  hourcs  of  prayer,  and 
moft  devout  behaviour  in  the  aifis  thereof :  thinkc  you 
they  a  re  not  fwect  incitements  unto  all  his  fubjects,  to 
follow  thofe  moft  pious  ftcps  in  the  which  he  walks? 
(g)  Vd.Patcrr.  (tyRetfefacerecives  fttos  Princeps  optima  faciendodo- 
cet.  HisMajcfties  religious  carnage  in  thchoufe  of 
God,  and  due  obfcrvance  of  thofc  Orders  which  the 
law  requires  in  common  people,  is  a  more  excellent 
Sermon  upon  that  text ,  than  ever  you  yet  preached 
on  any.  T  hey  muft  be  needs  exceeding  dull,or  fome- 
\vhar  worfe,  which  will  not  profit  very  much  by  fuch 
heavenly  doctrine.  If  you  have  opened  your  eyes  jo  wide, 
as  you  fay  you  have,it  is  not  that  you  cannot,  but  you 

will 


"R- 


^ 

t*$  •  -.^^-      ' 

-" FIT 


will  not  fecit ;  and  arc  grownc  blind,  not  out  of  want 
of  fight,  but  want  of  piety.   Adde  to  all  thefe,  the 
Princely  zcale  of  his  magnificent  heart,  for  the  repai 
ring  of  S.  Ptttlsi  by  which  example,  queftioolciTe,thc 
other  Churches  in  this  laod  will  fare  the  better.  And 
adde  to  that,  his  Majeftiesmoft  facred  care,  that  in  all 
places  where  he  comes  in  Progre(Tea  what  fcantnefle 
ofroome  foevcr  was  wont  to  be  pretended,  no  confc- 
crated  place  (hall  bee  prophaned  by  thofe  imploy- 
ments,  to  which  they  havebceneputin  the  times  be 
fore.  And  fee  you  nothing  all  this  while,  no  good 
worke,  no  piety  *  Then  lookc  into  thole  Country 
Churches,  to  which  his  Majeftie  in  his  times  of  Prt- 
frcjfc  rcpaires  moft  frequently  for  hearing  and  atten 
ding  Gods  publick  fervicc  :  leaving  the  privacy  of  his 
own  Court,andprcfencc,to  fet  a  copy  to  his  people, 
how  to  performe  all  true  humility  and  religious  ob- 
fervations  in  the  houfc  of  God.If  you  fee  nothingyet, 
and  that  there  muftbefomcthmg  which  hath  f polled 
your  eyc-fight;itis  the  toomuch  light  you  live  in :  by 
which  you  arc  fodazcled, that  you  cannot  fee  this  part 
of  piety,  or  clfcfo  blinded  ,that  you  will  not.  And  we 
may  fny  of  you  in  the  Poets  language,  Sunt  tencbrtpev 
tantu  lumen  clort*.  Then  to  go  lorwatds^ffccnttcntfe, 
can  you  remember  any  mtctnpflittn  of  and  in  this 
Church  Cand  gather  all  your  wits  about  you)  which 
hath  more  ferioufly  endeavoured  to  promote  that  «*/- 
formity  »f publick  Order.,  than  his  Grace  now  being  f 
His  cares  and  confultationsto  advance  this  worke,to 
make  H/erttfalem  (if  fuch  as  youdifturbed  him  not) 
at  unity  within  itfclfe,  arc  very  cafie  to  be  fccne :  fo 
cafic,  that  it  wcic  fcnfibilcfuper  fen  fir/urn  pwere ,  to 
infiftlongonit.  The  very  clamours  railed  upon  him, 
by  thofe  who  love  nor  unity  nor  uniformity  and  have 

an 


»      ~r 

lJ     an  art  of  fifhing  with  moft  profit,  in  a  troubled  water  j 
arc  better  evidence  of  this,  than  you  have  any  in  your 
booke  to  maintaine  the  caufc.  Nor  heare  wee  any  of 
the  other  beh ,  which  are  not  willing  for  their  parts  to 
make  up  the  Htrmony  j  but  that  great  Tom  rings  out  of 
tune.   Tor  when  did  you  or  any  other  know  the 
Prelates,  generally,  more  throughly  intent  upon  the 
work  committed  to  them  j  more  carneft  to  reduce  the 
fcrvice  of  this  Church  to  the  /indent  Orders  ,    ap. 
pointed  in  the  Common  prayer  booke '.  It  is  not  long 
{ince  ,  that  we  hadbuthalfc  prayers  in  moft  Chur 
ches  ;  and  almoft  none  at  all  in  fome,  your  friend 
7.  Cotttns  for  example.   Sec  you  no  alteration  in  this 
kinder  Is  nor  the  Liturgic  more  punctually  obfcrved 
of  late,  in  the  whole  forme  and  fafhion  of  Gods 
fcrvice,  than  before  it  was  '.   Churches  more  beauti 
fied  and  adorned  than  ever  fmcc  the  "Reformation  j the 
people  more  conformable  to  thofe  reverend  geftures 
in  the  houfe  of  God ,  which  though  prcfcribed  be 
fore,  were  but  little  pra&ccd  '.   fjvifquit  nen  vidct, 
ceecus  j   i]ui<qHtS'vidct,  ncc  Uudtf,  ingrattu$  .qttjfqHtt 
<'n)  Aujufi.  <Je   fondant i  rclitftttttr,  infants  eft ;  (u)  as  the  Father  hath 
it.  This,if  ingratitude  to  God,andobftinate  malice  to 
his  Church,  hath  not  made  you  blindc,  youcannot 
choofc  but  fee , though  you  would  diftcmble  it:  And  if 
you  fee  itjdo  you  not  think  it  a  good  work  ?  and  is  there 
not  a  piety  cf '  and  in  thefe  times, which  more  inclines  to 
the  advancement  of  that  workc^  than  in  the  former? 
\vould  any  man, that  oucly  wears  a  form  ofgocilineffc, 
make  this  his  May-gawft  and  fcornfully  intirlc  it  the 
tyimagintrj  piety  eft  he  times, 8c  tkePlatffrticaU  idea  of  A 
good  work  in  h<tnd?~fvkc  heed,  for  vuhu  Uditurpietas. 
Laughed  you  but  at  it  in  your  flee ve,you  had  much  to 
anfwerfofi  but  making  it  your  publickpaftime,  you 

make 


Cmt.Dci,  l.i. 
«7 


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. 


Li  JMtni 

< 


make  your  fclfe  obnoxious  to  the  wrath  of  God  and  Cap,  3 
man,both  for  the  fin  and  forthcfcandall.  And  as  for 
thegootlwcrk  iitbawljn  cafe  you  will  not  help  it  for- 
wards,(as  I  doubt  you  will  not)  do  not  difturb  it  with 
your  factious  and  fchifmaticall  Pamphlets. 

Having  made  merry  with  your  friends,  about  the 
inclination  efthefe  times  to  piety  ,  and  the  advance 
ment  of  ib  good  A  rrorke  as  the  uniformity  of  public  k 
order  :  you  pafTc,Iknow  not  how,  to  the  ^dils  And 
<JMonrtmcnts,zn&  thcexamination  of  fuch  palTages  as 
were  thence  taken  by  the  Doctor.  Perhaps  youarea 
better  A  rtift  than  I  take  you  for  :  And  being  it  is  Jrtis 
celarearten*  ,  you  meanc  to  tender  to  the  world  fuch 
an  Art  of  writing,  ashathno  *m'nit.  But  thclcflc 
cunning,  the  more  truth,  as  we  ufc  to  fry.  If  we  could 
find  it  (b,  it  were  fomc  amends  ;  and  though  I  fee  but 
little  hope,  yet  I  mcanc  to  trie.  The  Doctor  told  you 
in  his  (k)  Ctalcfiem  the  ^sfltar,  that  "  not  a  few  of 
"  thofc  which  fuffcred  death  for  oppofing  the  groflc 
"  and  carnall  doctrine  of  trAnfubjtantiation,  did  not 
*'  onely  well  enough  indure  the  name  of  o///./r, 
"but  without  any  doubt  or  fcruple  called  the  Lords 
"  Suffer  fomctimes  ufacrifcc,  and  many  times  the 
"  Stcrtmentof  thc^ltar.  So  that  if  they  indurcdit 
well  enough,  in  others,  or  ufed  itthemfelvcs  without 
doubt  or  fcrufle  $  it  is  as  much  as  was  intended  by  the 
Doctor.  Andforthcproofcofthis,  he  firft  brings  in 
'John  Fryth^  relating  in  a  letter  to  his  private  friends, 
that  they  his  adverfaries  examined  him  touching  the 
Sacrament  if  the  Altar  ;  whether  it  was  the  very  boc'y 
of  Ch  rift,  or  no.  Thtje  are  (l)  you  fay  their  words,  not  (1) 
bis.  Why  man,  whofc  words  focver  they  were  in  the 
firft  propofallj  cjoth  not  he  vfe  the  fame  tvit/jeut  £o>*bt 

H4  cr 


Seft.  i.     irfcr*ttefGn&  youthathe  did  (tumble  atthem,or  dif- 
like  the  phrafc?  Hadhebeenhalfe  fo  quarrel  fomc  at 
thephrafe,as  youare,  he  might  havctcftified  his  dif. 
like  in  a  word  or  two  j  the  Sacrament  of  the  ^Itar,  at 
they  call  it.  Your  felf  inform  us  from  him3thatin  fomc 
cafes,at  fomc  times,  he  ufed  that  qualification,  as  vtifc 
/>.^o8.ofthc^<7j  And  Men.  I  Abided  moreover  that  their 
Church  (&  they  call  it}  hath  nofuch  fower  and  authority, 
&c.An  Argument  there  of  his  diffcnt,none  here:  their 
Church  as  they  f4///f, there;  the  Sacrament  of  the  Altar 
here  5  no  diflike  at  all.  You  might  have  fuflered  the 
poorcmanto  reft  in  peace,  ana  not  have  called  Mai 
(mjVouz  av«  (m)to  the  bar  to  fo  little  purpofe.The  fccond  witav  »ic 
Fryth,  Let  him  \vnslfhn  Lambert, ,who  alfo  ufed  the  word  or  phrafc 
MwwrtJS     *"'''  '*  t'ttkftruph'  (")  ^-4'  concerning  the  other  fixe 
Articles  I  make  you  the  fume  anfwcr,that  I  have  done  un 
to  the  Sacrament  of  the  ^4.  /tar,  and  no  other.  You  quar- 
rell  this,  as  that  before,  being  you  fay  (°)their  words, 
not  his;  and  hereunto  we  make  that  anfwcr  as  unto  the 
former:  They  were  their  words  mpropofititn,  his  in 
repetition  5  efpccially  the  repetition  being  fuch  as 
fliewcd  noJijtikt.  But  where  you  tell  us  of  his  An- 
fwer,  (pj  viz.  /  neither  can  nor  will  anfwer  one  worded. 
thereupon  inferre,  John  Lambert  an  fivers  there  not  o»c 
ivordforyou:i\u\s\*\M  a  touch  of  your  old  trick,  in  cut 
ting  fliort  quotations  when  they  will  not  help  you. 
John  Lambert  being  demanded,  not  whether  he  ap 
proved  the  name  of  Sacrament  of  the  Altar,\)\.\\.  whe 
ther  he  thought  that  in  \\\eSacramer)t  of  the  Altar, there 
w>is  the  very  body  and  blood  of  C.hri ft  in  likcnef  of  bread 
tndwine  jrcplyed,  I  neither  canne  willanfveroneword: 
what,endshe  therc,asyou  have  made  him  f.  no,by  no 
meanes :  1  neither  can  ne  will  an  fiver  one  word  (i)  9ther» 
wife  than  I  have  told yett  fine e  I  IVM  delivered  into  your 

bands: 


(n)  Afti  and 
Mon.parc  t. 
P-40I 


(?j)  A  At  and 
Mon.  parti. 


/j4ftJs  .•  which  was,  that  hec  would  make  no  anfwer  Cap.  3. 
of  what  hcc  thought,  till  they  brought  feme  body  tt 
accufe  him.  John  ^Lamberts  other  teftimony  uled  by 
theDoftoris,as  followeth.  "  Chrift  being  offered 
"  up  once  for  all  in  his  owne  perfon ,  is  yet  faid  to  be 
"offered  up,  not  onely every  ycareat£^r,  but 
*'  alfo  every  day  in  the  celebration  of  the  Sacrament, 
"  becaufc  his  oblation,once  for  ever  made,is  thereby 
"rcprcfcnted.  ^8s  a»d^49».fArt^.j.^^t  Thefe 
words  you  challenge  as  not  his.  Howfo  {  Becaufc  it 
followeth  in  the  place.  tyEvettfifaitbS.  i^tugttJHn.  (Op*g-tt. ' 
Even  fo  faith  S.  'Attgttflin  ?  what,  and  ftops  he  there, 
asn  here  onely  faid  thofc  words  from  that  Reverend 
Father  t  Hacf  itbeenc  fo,  we  had  loft  nothing  by  the 
hand,  the  words  being  his  in  the  Original! jmd  Lam 
berts  in  the  Application :  but  it  is  not  fo.  For  thus  it 
followeth  in  thcplacc  j  "  Even  fo,  faith  Augufinc9  is 
"  the  Sacrament  of  Chrifts  body  3  the  body  of 
"  CUrift ;  and  the  Sacrament  of  Chrifts  blood ;  the 
"  blood  of  Chrift  in  a  certain  wife  or  faftiion:i.c.Even 
«s  Chrift  offered  once  for  all,  is  notwithftanding  faid 
to  be  offered  every  day  in  the  holy  Sacrament  j  even . 
fo,faith  Aufint  is  the  Sacrament  of  Chrifts  body  the 
body  of  Chrift.  You  may  call  home  the  Montcb.wk 
<foroughtlcai  fee)  which  you  (f)  bcftow  upon  the  (OVomam 
Doclorjand  keep  him  to  your  fclfe,  till  the  Dr  needs  ft*T^.T* 

«  •        ~         t  .        \      i  ,        J  n  lohn  Lambert. 

him.  Touching  Archb.  Cranmer^n  you  (new  us  any  Bntfrnidyutb^ 

where,that  at  the  terme  orphrafe  of  Sacrament  of  the  /"<Momc- 

^/f4f,hcdid  take  offcncedf  nor,you  give  the  1  ;oclor  cSSlpS? 

what  he  (•)  there  affirms.  Andfinceonyourdifcove-  CO^/M. 

ty,  which  I  thankyoufor,Tfindc  itwasM» 'JF^rand 

not  the  Arch  Bifhop  ,  which  drew  up  thofc  z\\tg<i- 

tions  againlhhc  fix  Articles  (which  following  fo  im-  (»)&«*' Afti 

ji  lAi-r^rt  f  •  "ir    »naMon.patt 

•fncoiauy  QO  the  Arch  Bimops.oppontion(u;  to  thofe  i.p.^j, 

Articles, 


.  I ".      Articles  9  might  very  cafily  be  miftooke  for  his,  by 
one  that  is  norfo  much  ftudiedinthebookcas  you 
fccmc  to  be)  wee  have  loft  nothing  by  the  change.  I  / 
trow  if  Mr  Fox  tookc  no  offence  thereat,  you  will  ! 
have  little  thankcs  for  your  grcztprecifeneffc*  Oh  but,  ! 
(*)  pj£.««. '     fay  you3thcre  followcth («)  Cachapeale  after  it>*u none 
but  A  mad-man  would  cite  him  for  thispurpofe:  vlz.This 
men  (Iron*  Article  of  theirs  in  this  forme  ofvatrdsas  it 
ftandeth,&c.  What?  doth /<?/;«  Fix  call  it  a  monftrout 
<-x/r/;V/<r,onely  becaufc  the  Sacrament  is  there  called, 
the  Sacrament  of  the  Alttr  ?  If  not,  you  might  have 
kept  your  mad-m/in  to  your  fclfe,  as  you  doc  your 
tJttontcbank.  This  monflrous  Article  of  theirs  in  the 
forme  of  words  <u  itftandcth,  is,  that  the  Sacrament  of 
the  i^iltar  u  the  very  nAtitrall  body  of  Chrtf,  the  fclfe 
fame  which  rv.ts  borne  of  the  Virgin  CMary.  This  you 
dam  out  with  an  &c.  to  make  y  our  partizans  bclccve, 
that  to  entitle  the  Lords  Supper,  by  the  name  of  the 
Sacrament  of  the  Altar,  was  in  lohn  Fox  his  judgment, 
a  mcnftrous  Article.  F/  mtgno  inpopulo.  And  yet  wee 
will  nor  leave  youfo,  as  if  Archb.  Cranmer  had  no 
where  called  the  holy  Sacrament  by  the  name  of  Sa 
crament  of  the  Altar.  For  if  you  look  into  yourownc 
Author  the  Acts  &  Mon.  in  tlic  proceedings  againft 
Br£0MW,/f*.i545>.f4rt  z.youfliall  fiade  the  Archb. 
fpeaking  thus  unto  the  people.   "  My  Laof  Lindtn 
•"  would  make  you  bclecve  that  he  is  called  hither  for 
"  declaring  and  preaching  his  opinion,  touching  the 
*'  Sacrament  of  the  Altar  :  but  to  the  intent  you  may 
"perceive  how  hcegocth  about  to  deceive  you,  you 
'*  flull-hcarcrhc  denunciation  that  islaidagainfthnn 
"  read  unto  you.  By  which  you  fec,or  may  fc-cifyou 
have  a  mind  to it,tlur  Archb. Crtnmcr  ufcd  the  name 
tot  Sacrament  of  the  Altar^  without  doubt  or  fcruple. 

In 


(91 

In  citing  of  lohnPhilpot,  you  proceed  accordingly.  Cap.  y. 
(•)The  Doctor  told  you  out  of  him,  "In  what  re.  (a)cw/,;«,  if. 
"fpedls  the  old  Writers  doe  fometimes  call  theSa- 
"  crament  of  the  body  and  blood  of  Chrift,  amongfl 
"other  names  which  they  afcribc  thereunto,  the 
<f  Sacrawent  of  the  Altar.  To  this  you  make  reply, 
(b)  that  he  hath  dealt  with  Philpot,  exceeding  hardly,  (b)  pig.f?. 
cutting  off  the  he  ad  and  feet  of  ha  dffcourft&nd  thereby 
making  the  ([notation,  almoft  M  true  a  (JMartyr,  AS  the 
man  hiwfelfe.ffato.  for  the  heado(  hisdifcotirfc,it  is  no 
more  than  this  ;  <f  (c)  I  muft  needs  ask  a  queftion  of  (c) AAl  3n<* 
"my  ReftondentD<Chadfey,  concerning  a  word  or  ^-P'"3' 
"  twainc  of  your  fuppofuion  :  /'.  e.  of  the  Sacrament  of  P 
"  the  Altar,  what  he  mcaneth  thereby,  and  whether 
"  he  take  it,as  fonaeof  the  ancient  Writers  do,terming 
the  Lords  Supper  the  Sacrament  of  'the  Alt ar.  This  is 
the  head.  Where  (d)  is  the  fhre wd  tale  it  hath  to  tell  ? 
Doth  not  the  head  confefiethat  it  was  called  fo  by 
fomc  ancient  Writers  ?  And  what  more  finde  you  in 
(<)thc  belly  ?  Then  for  the  feete.  Demanding  (as  you  /*'"«'*0.< 
anake  him  fay)  "whether  he  tookc  it  as  the  Ancients  [2^»«/% 
*' did  ,  or  for  the  Sacrament  of  the  ^Itar  which  is  I'hii.fcemcnt 
"made  of  lime  and  ftonc ,  over  which  the  Sacra-  *\"Jt^aUI'tllj' 
"  ment  hangcth  :  and  finding  that  they  meant  it  this 
"later  way,  he  declares  himfelfe,  Then  /  willfieake 
\  that  the  Sacrament  of  the  ^A  It  ar  Is  no 


Sacrament  at  aH.  Had  you  reported  Phi  bet  rightly, 
we  ftould  have  no  great  caufe  to  (f)  like  him  :  but  it 
is  you  that  martyr  the  quotation,  and  not  the  Doftor. 
"His  qucftion  was,  (§}  Whether  they  took  it  other- 
"wifethan  t\\eDotfors  did,  as  for  the  Sacrament  ef 
ee  the  Altar  which  is  made  of  lime  and  ftone,  over 
<c  which  the  Sacramenr  hangcth,  and  to  be  all  one 
"  with  the  Sacrament  of  the  LMaJfe,  as  it  is  at  this  pre- 

fent 


"  Tent  in  many  places.  And  finding  thatthcy  took  the 
(<  Sacrament  of  the  Altar  ^  the  Sacrament  of  the  Maffe 
"  to  be  all  one ;  then,  quoth  Phthot.l  will  (peak  plain 
"  £*£#/&, the  Sacrament  of  the  Altar  which  ye  reckon 
"  to  be  all  one  with  the  M*/ft9  once  juftly  abolifliedi 
"and  now  put  in  full  ufe  againe,  is  no  Sacrament  4t  x#, 
"  neither  is  Chrif  prcfent  in  it.  Sec  you  Sir,  how  you 
cheat  and  abufe  your  Reader,  leaving  out,  in  the  que- 
flion,  and  to  be  all  one  with  the  Sacrament  tfthc  MajTe  j 
and  in  the  anfwcr,  that  they  took  the  Sacrament  iftht^t 
Altar  ,and  the  Sacrament  of  the  Majfe  to  be  all  one ;  and 
in  the  refolution,  which  ye  reckon  to  be  aUonewiththc^j 
Maffe  once  \uflly  tfol/Jlca.'This  makes  a  very  great  dif 
ference  in  the  prefcntbufinelTe^nd  fliews  you,  that  ic 
wasthcA//i//if,which/'^/7/>tf/dia  affirm  to  be  noSA- 
cr/tmcnt  at  rf//,nnd  not  the  Sacrament  of  'the  Altar ,as  you 
make  him  fay. You  fliould  have  dealt  more  faithfully 
in  your  quotations  of  thofcbookSjin  which  each  petty 
Chapman  will  find  your  falfliood,  andcafilydefcric 
the  counterfeit  wares.  The  other  paflagc  which  you 
cite  from  the  faid  lohn  /Vy//^0/,outof  theAtf.&  MM. 
fart  5  .fag .  5  5  3 .  viz.  us  touching  their  Sacrament,n>hich 
they  terme  of  the  Altar ;  and  fo  make  it  their  terme,  not 
his,that  is  anfwered  in,  and  with  the  former.  He  doth 
not  fay_,T/tf  Sacrament  which  they  tcrmc  of  the  Altar  ; 
but/>&«>  Sacrament  which  they  fotcrme,  that  is,  the 
tJUAjft.  The  Sacrament  of  the  ^tltar  was  the  Fathers 
language ;  to  call  their  {JMaffe  fo,  was  their  owne. 
Your  other  inftnnce  touching  Philpot&utof  the  fame 
part,  fag.  5  7 1 .  we  (Kill  fee  hereafter. 
tie      Concerning  Bp.£4//w*r,thc  Dr  told  you,(h)that  he 
4lt*'»  P-1  J«       plainly  granteth,that  //(/.r.thc  holy  Table)w^  be  cal 
led  an  Alttir,Andfoth'e  Dec/trs  call  it  in  wany  places ^  but 
ry  fdcrifict  but  offdy  Chrijls.  You,in 

your 


& 


your  repetition, leave  out  this,/*  wxy  ^  called™  '///<w,Cap.  J' 
and  make  the  Doftor  fay  no  more,  than  that  old  £*//'- 
»w  plainly  granteth, that  the  Dolors  call  it  fo  in  ma 
ny  placcsrand  thereupon  infer  without  fenfe  of  fliaine, 
he  doth  not  («')  call  itfo  himfelf.  Then  for  the  Dcflors ,  (')  p'g  **• 
(having  firft  called  upon  himtojjftf^  truth,  And  flame 
the  dcvittfir  he  is  the  eld  differ  of  fetches)  you  tell  us 
that  it  followeth  in  old  Latimcrs  words,  that  they  may 
bt  deceived  in  feme  points, though  not  in  All  things :  1 be. 
leeve  them  when  the y  fay  well,  or  as  it  is  in  the  margin, 
(k)  D  ccttres  legcndifuntcumvenia',  which  you  conft  rue 
thusjheDttfors  muft  be  pardoned  if  they  J»mtitH(s  flip  in 
their  txprefionf.No  matter  for  the  M4X£/*,that  comes 
out  of  leafon.I  truft  you  will  not  juft»(ic  all  the  margi- 
nal  notes  inthc/ftf.c^/w.But  as  [QiLatimcrs  fpeech, 
that  they  might  crrc  \nfoire  points,  thoagh  not  in  aU 
things yx  fccms  he  did  not  think  that  they  erred  in  this, 
himfclf  affirming  pofitivcly, that  it  wt)  l>c  CA lledan  Al- 
/<<r,asthc  Dolors  call  itjtnough  you  mofl  mamcleily 
have  left  that  out,  as  before  was  faid.  You  may  take 
with  you  homethe  old  clipper  offteeches,  to  wait  upon 
the  Mountebank  and  the  Madman,  that  arc  there  alrea 
dy.  To  the  firft  place  C1)  alledged  from  "B.R/Jky,v\Zi 
thatinthe,S<ttT4;»*/;f  of  the  Altar,  if  the  very  body  and  /</«r,p.ij. 
bloudofchriftiyo\\  anfwer  onely  as  before,  that  they 
arc  their  words,  andnot  his  j  (m)  the  words  articttUtcd  (m)  pag  9t. 
upon  himjnd  not  his  own.Bttt  whofe  foe  ver  they  wore 
int\\c proptftt-itffjie  ufeth  them  without  doubt  orfcrttplc 
inthc  repetition ;  which  was  the  onely  pointthatthey 
were  produced  for.  Agninft  the  other  paifagc  of  that 
Reverend  Prelates,  that  the  word  Altaic  in  the  Scrip. 
ture,  dtthfignifeas  well  the  Altar,  whcrcufon  the  I  ewes 
were  wont  toofferthctr  burnt  facririccs,  .ts  the  TaMc<?/ 
{h(  Lords  Supper  j  and  that  S.  Cyril  meaneth  by  this 

word 


Sea.  i 

im^.t  i  la: 


(p)  (  ea 


n»  ord  Altare,  not  the  Jcwifli  Altar,  but  the  table  of  the 
Lord,&c.yQ\\  have  nought  to  anfwcr.-confefling  plain 
ly  that  (n)  he  faith  as  the  Doctor  doth.  Which  is  the 
only  fair  dealing  he  hath  found  yet  from  youjthough  • 
after  you  would  fainc  retract,(°)  affirming  that  the  £P 
;  ofLincolnrvouldpnilcvcty  heartily ^  to  fee  that  fuch  a 
puffage,  AS  this  is,  fliould  be  brought  by  the  Doctor^* 
defend  his  Altars.  Let  them  laugh  that  win. 

That  which  comes  next  after,  is  the  Act  of  Parlia 
ment,  i  Ed.6.c.  i .  of  which  the  Doctor  tcls  us,  (P)  that 
"  though  it  was  refolvcd  in  the  fame,  that  the  wholes 
"  Cemmnnion  fliould  be  rcftoicd,  which  in  effect  wasa 
"  plain  abolition  of  the  former  MaJJ'e^yct  the  Act  was 
"  entituleda  AnAtiagainftfuchperfons  as  fiall  freak  ir- 
"reverently  againjltbeSacramcntQ£t\\£ body  & bloud 
•'  of  ChriftjCommonly  called  the  Sacrament  of  the  At. 
"tar.  He  tcls  us  alfo,  that/*  the  body  of  the  Act,  that 
"  there  was  a  Writ  determined  of,  upon  fuch  dclin- 
"  qucncies,  wherein  it  is  cxprefly  called  Sacrofantfum 
"  Sacr amentum  i^dltaris:  aod  that  thcfaid  Act  being 
"  repealed  i  Mar.c.i.  was  afterwards  revived  by  Qu. 
"  Elix,.  and  every  branch  and  member  of  it,  i  El.c .  i . 
So  that  the  Act  being  ftill  in  force,  the  Sacrament  of 
the  Lords  Supper  is  to  this  day  cntitulcd  in  the  Statute 
/4ip,the  Sacrament  cfthe  cxf //4r.This  Stat.  you  afTirm 
to  be  produced  by  the  Doctor  with  the  fame  felidty 
as  the  Martyrs  B^r<r,that  is,w  witnes  point  blank  againft 
foittfclfithcDCyOnly  peeping  over  the  wicket, but, us  you 
fiy^not  daring  for  his  cars  to  open  tin  door  c,  and  l«ok  into 
thebtdy  of  it.  Why  do  you  thinkthe  Dr  mould  be  fuch 
a  flincher  ?  Firft,  as  you  fay,0)  becaufe  the  Sacrament 
of  the  Altar  was  not  the  name,  but  the  addititn  tnely  to 
tbsnanteofthe  ^/<f^^Sacrament :  the  very  name  it  (elf 
fyjn&,  *fo  Sacrament  of  the  body  and  bloud  of  Chrift: 

the 


the  we  the  ttame,  tto  other  the  (Q  nick-  name,  as  you  call  Capi  $  J 
it.  This  faid,  (^  you  fall  upon  the  Doftor,  and  bid  (f)  pog.  94. 
him  some  with/frame  enough  into  the  body  of  the  Attend,  (0 1"* 
fee  what  impoftures  he  printeth  for  the  people  :  bccaufe 
forfooth  it  is  therecallcd  the  comfortable  Sacrament  of 
the  body  and  bloudofchrijl,  commonly  called  the  Sacra 
ment  of  the  Altar,  and  in  Scripture  the  Supper  and 
Table  of  the  Lord.  Good  angry  Sir,  doc  you  find  any 
impofturc  here  on  the  Dolors  part  f  Affirmes  hec 
othcrwife,  than  that  the  Sacrament  of  the  Lords  Sup 
per  was,  and  is  by  that  Statute  ((till  in  force)  cntitulcd 
alfo  by  the  name  ofS*sraMe»t  of  the  Altar  ?  It  is,you 
fay,  zfcnatt  lav,  and  being  it  was  zpenall  Urv,  it  was  to 
/peak  adcaptun*  vulgi.  Doe  you  not  call  to  mind,  that 
you  told  us  lately  of  thejgjrfou  Inunctions,  (u)that 
they  were  dire  ft  cd  to  htrSub]eflsy  not  unto  her  <J\{<itbe- 
maticians  :  and  of  the  Rubrick  in  the  Liturgie,  that  it 
waimadeforteoplc(*)thatrvcrenoGeometricians  .-and 
then  conclude  the  point  out  of  Chancellour  Egcrton, 
thzttywtrJsrnttJleetAkefifenCu  currenti,  cuflomc  and 
*fc  being  the  bcjl  expojitor  both  oflawes  and  words?  Take 
the  Iwpojlor  home  with  you  to  make  up  the  mcflc  ; 
and  then  you  have  a  tjMountebAnkeji  madman,  the  de- 
vill  an  old  clipper  of  Beeches  ^  and  the  faid  Impoftir  to 
Icecpe you  company.  And  lo  much  good  doe  it  you. 
Youcnallcnge  upon  all,  and  on  nooccafions,  a  fpe- 
ciallintercft  in  antiquity  ;  and  cite,  as  you  have  caufc 
fomctimes,  fomc  of  the  Ancients  that  cdl  it  the  Sa 
crament  of  thc/4//4r:ycttellus,upon  better  thoughts, 
that  it  is  called fo  indeed, but  not  by  the  law  ofGodJ?)  nor 
by  the  law  e-fntan  j  Itit  commonly .  that  /V,  by  the  common 
error  and Poptry  of  thofc  times.  1\iz  Faptfls  are  behol 
ding  to  you,  for  giving  them  fuch  intcreft  in  the  An- 
cicnt  Fathers.  The  Fathers  call  it  fo,  and  it  was  cal 
led- 


kd  f°  °nty  by  the  common  error  and  Ptytrit  of  thcfc 
later  d aies.  Doc  not  you  make  the  Fathers  exceeding 
young,  or  Popery  exceeding  old,  in  that  y»u  make  the 
Fathers  and  Popery  ofan  equall  (landing.  Your  {lender 
obfcrvation,  tnat  in  thofc  times  this  very  Sacrament 
was  called  the  Ma/ft,  and  allowed  to  be  called  fo  by 
Act  of  Parliament,  (  you  meane  it  is  fo  called  in  the 
Litttrgic,  confirmed  that  Parliament ,  2.  (£•  3.  Edr*. 
6.  c .  i.)  is  not  worth  the  noting.  Yet  thereupon  you 
make  this  inference,  that  if  the  Doctor ^W  report  of 
you,  that  you  bavcftid  Mtjft,  whtnyou  baveonelyadnti- 
niflred  the  Communion  you  will  hwcyour  remedy  again  ft 
bint,  At  in  cafe  of  flander.  And  well  you  may.  You 
know  that  Statute  is  repealed  3  there  being  another 
Litargic  confirmed  by  Parliamcnt^which  makes  void 
the  old.  But  fo  it  is  not  with  the  Statute  touching  the 
Sacrament  of  the  Jltar,  which  is  as  much  in  force  as 
the  fecond  Liturgic.  Nor  need  you  fearc  that  any 
man  will  report  of  you  ,  that  you  havcfaid  <J\ta]Jct 
\vhen  you  have  oncly  adminiftred  the  Communion  .* 
though  fomc  perhaps  may  fay  (and  bid  you  take  the 
remedy  that  the  law  allowcs  you)  that  you,  or  fomc 
good  friend  of  yours,  have  offered  to  fay  Maffe,  there 
\vherc  you  ought  to  have  adminiftred  the  Communion 
onely.Iknottoo  bufieonyour  chaknges,as  you  love 
your  fclfcj  left  fome  adventurous  Swordman  bid  you 
doe  your  worft,  and  take  up  thewaftcrs. 

As  for  the  Writ,  directed  in  the  body  of  the  Aft  to 

my  ^*  l^e  ^i^10Ps'  >TOU  ^iy  itdttb  not  (*)  calltt  (as 
thc'DQ&orfalfifyctJbtbc  slit)  Sacr amentum  Altaris, 
but  oncly  t  hiit  it  was  grounded  on  the  Statute  made  con 
cerning  the  SAcramcnt  of  the  Altar.  Why  Sir,  the 
Doctor  doth  not  fay,  that  the  Writ  calls  it  fo  expref- 
T  ty 5  ^  b"tthat  it'isexprcily  called  fo  in  the  Writ. 

And 


*^  *   r 

Andif  yoa  hare  tio  better  anfwerto 
unto  the  Statute  ' 

"  your 

though  there 


.  and  thcpoorc 

™°Hgr.  todefcnd  che  Writ,  al. 

thereof 


You 


ir  D?wy°u'^'onboththofeerrour5,  of 

ich  you  havealreadypronounced  him  guilty. 


take  it  than  your  felfc)  hath 
thought  fit  to  ftaad:  and  tell  us  ofthe  Writ, 
yet  my  Lord  BP  of  Umcltt,  when  hewaSi 

'~  °  a  -C°that  ''  C'>U«'"  t0  be  i(r 

*™K*irfitrffi»a»*  sacra. 
**o*MJt  whcreM  t~c 

glve!,no  ""rant  for  any  luch  Writ  to  bei/Tu- 
W,rr.  Hadyouauthoriti  of 
t,  K        '^'"'  J  d°*tnotbut  your 

h      r'd  bethis'  th«"<n°ul<l  belawfull  for 
whereroever,  orwhenfoeverhcfaw  the  ho- 


to 


thofe  that  (hould 


might  bee  lawful]  for  the  rude 
>ic  10  to  call  it,  and  none  fo  bold  as  toconrrou/e 
J.    On  them  indeed  you  have  transferred  i%  in 
your  new  edition  of  the  letter,  to  cxcufc  the  Eifhop- 
1  buc 


I .  kut  then  you  never  tell  us,  as  you  might  have  done  a* 
well  in  the  fame  Edition.ho  w  forely  they  were  repre 
hended  by  the  Biftiop  for  it.  Here  very  unfeafoDably?. 

and  by  fome  (»)  Sttlenbrotus  figure,you  have  brought 

) page  »3.       .    .      '      .  r    x  '      J      ..  /•     T    i  •  i  b  v 

it  in  $  and  feeme  exceeding  angry  (as  I  think  you  are) 

thatic  fliould  be  fo  P/>w/f^and  \>inw>don  tie  "Bifhopf* 
flceve.    But  bee  not  fo  cxtreamly  angry.     Matter 
Trjttxe  may  furnifli  you  with  as  good  a  note  as  that- 
when  occafion  fcrves  j  andrecompenceyou  for  the, 
ufcofyour  Drcjfirtty  fomc  trick  of  law.    But  where 
^h)  ib  id.          you  fay  5  that  ( '')  if  one  Brjhcp  of  Lincoln^  and  one  Deane 
ofll'eftmittfierjfoaUJpcakjrreierwtlj  of  the  ProtcJtaMts 
tabte,  ( I  though? afturedlyiit  had  beeoethe  Lords  Ta 
ble)  caUirtg  it  oyfler-tallt>  and  oyftw-boordc  5  by  thff 
tjcrvfirure  of  the  Dotfors^  all  Bifiops  and  Deane  j  ofthofe 
trto  places  mi/ft  till  the  endojthe  world  befuppofeato  doe 
fo:  you  make  a  ftrangc  «<?^7///V^  which  the  Doftor 
meant  not.   Heeknowes  there  have  bcene  manyBi- 
Ciops  and  Deancs  of  ekher,  of  fuch  a  noted  piety,  as 
no  man  can  fuppofe  it  of  them.    All  you  £aii  thence 
conclude  is  this :  that  as  there  was  a  Eifiop  of  JJncoltt^ 
and  a  D:ant  ofWefimlnfttr  thar  called  the  Lords  table 
(Ending  Tallc-wife,  or  in  the  middle  of  the  Chan 
ce.  15  by  the  name  o&oyfter-boordt:  fo  tocryquitts 
with  them, there  is  ( as  you  have  now  difcovered  him) 
one  Bifliopof  Lincoln  and  Dcanc  of  Wefiffft/tfter,  thac 
calsit  ftanding  Altar*nife  ,  by  the  name  of  Dreffer. 
As  for  loin  Fox  his  marginal!  notes  of  the  blafokewons 
W/thofD1  irejlox^thc  Dcurie  of Wcpn:lnpcr}caUing 
*h*  Lords  tabU  an  oyfler-boorJc,  page  sy.  and  Sifiop 
White.)  ( then  Biiliop  of  Livcohi)  hfjfphemoh'jl}  collet h 
the-hordecfthc  Lords  Svppcr^n  o\ftcr-tablsi  thofe  you 
jjiaycith<Jj:taKe  ojleavc5  as  your  ftomack  fcrves  you* 

Acd 


• 


And  Cure  it  ferves  you  very  well  .  you  had  not  falne    Cap 

elfc  on  'the  BP  of  Norwich  with  (0  good  an  appetite  5 

and  furnifhed  fome  of  your  good  friends  out  of  the 

Index  of  your  Author,  with  an  excellent  note,againft 

the  next  Edition  of  the  Ntwcsfromlpfaich.  But  this 

is  not  the  oneiy  thing  wherein  H.  Rand  you  have  im 

parted  notes  to  one  another  $  as  may  moftmanifcft- 

ly  bedifccrned  inthatgenerallParalleljwhichlhave 

elfewhcredrawnebetwccne  you.  At  this  rime  I  flnll 

oncly  note  how  much  you  are  beholding  unto  your 

4eWtfrupee.jthe  back-doors  ofyour  books,your  Indexes. 

Here  (')  we  are  furniflied  with  a  note  out  of  the  Index 

of  Ioh»Fox*  touching  aBifliop  of  Norwich  his  fend" 

iug  forth  letters  offerfecntfa/f.  Page  i2p,you  cercifie  us 

from  the  authoritieof  the  fame  learned  /Af//t\v3tiiat  Bi- 

(hop  lliMej  ordered  the  Communion  Table  to  be  pla 

ced,  not  Altar-  irife,l>Ht  as  j  Table.  Nor  could  you  en 

ter  into  the  Fathers  but  by  this  back-doorc,  and  there 

you  found  by  chance  (fuch  good  luck  you  have)]  that, 

Sacrifciutn  Alt  art*  (k)was  toy  (led  into  the  Index  of  S.  (k)page  ii* 

duftin-i  by  the  Divines  ofLovaivejiS  into  others  of  the 

Fathers  by  the  Vriefls  and  left/ttes.  We  now  perceive 

what  helps  you  had)  to  clog  your  margin  with  fuch  a 

numerous  and  impertinent  body  of  quotations  ,  as 

fervefor  very  litle  purpofe5but  to  make  a  fhcw  $  a  gc- 

ncrall  mufter  9  as  ic  vvere9  of  your  mighty  reading.  .., 


1  2  CHAP. 


CHAP.  IV. 

Of  taking  dowa,//ter*  in  K.£<fo.time;  altering 
the  Liturgit  firft  made  5  and  of  the  tcftimo. 
ine,$  give**  unto  it  bj  the  Kipg  ^Parliament 

TbfTJ&or  leaves*  the  Mimfter  qf  Liocpfaj  M^hpd, 
Chaffs*  t9  kftpt  tlofe  t,o  E«glai?4-  Altars  «<?{  generally  t 
dove*  w  tki  fourth  of  if.  Ij-  <j  w  .&  T'&fMiniflcr  o£  Linc. 
jfrr^  i/?r  Btfiopj  letter  to  the  I'tcar,  anc(palterj  viih  a  f 
in  the  A  :U  antfMoii.fo  muly  themffrvchu  tttrne  about  the 
tiil^Ng  do»'»e  c^A'.tars.  /4  mofrnotoriom  peetf  of  non.  en:e 
»»  r  /;<•  M<  w  £^  /*o«  «?/  the  let  tcr.  The  A  liars  in  the  £h»rch  of 
England  bvumdwnfin  Germany,  A'tars  notbf(.t<M,dorfKe 
<j$  fa$  ',^7  </>(?  con?rxqnpc.ep/(jC>tft  r»<^f  »  downe  kj  ordered, 
infaire  f,rt/ie(dvt£»  fylMtevs  off*  ft  maj  bee  nn-.df  d'jUrin.Jl 
Jbr»t  tim1  s.tt  ndun  famefoesafions*  1  hi  Qrdex  ojths  Kwg  k*t  A. 
Jiind^f  Law.TAf  MiniHci  ofLiti$»t.4k(tprc.4tf-vtcttofr{+ 
Qz\\\l\frg*nb*'Vin£<wyhan4in  allcrtngtlic  Liturgie  Land- 
market  andbcunds  l.ijeddowae^for  the  rtght  Httdejrftandi'-'t 
cfthcftorj.  Calvin  except  sagatnft  the  Liturgy  tpraflt/ctb-K>trtt- 
the  J?.  oj  So\r\ii\ciyloth  is>ht*kc  was  Protector  }  andefttr.. 
tin  corre]por,dtnce  here  with  B  P.  Hooper^  ndillajfetiwn  to 
t>hf  c  remtftti^f^fK  by  lav*  f  $alilt(kcd»T  he  fJotfurutt<  ring  the 
Lkuric/s  \flrqngly  l^jfd^  that  it  Vcnr  foxip*  Kd.KctVfitl.jiax^ 
cr.  The  fljftmcf  till  ignoravKC  ar  d\  tnoft. 


ttttjjp  s  te  WQJ^C  Hnce^AKc  /rc?>.i'djifi)Cr« 
e  of  his  Lttttr  tv  the  Archb  fleered  from  the  cavils  of' 
the  Minister  of\\\\n.  I  hetefttmoty  given  tk<  $rfi  Liturgte  bj 
K.  \LA\\.  6.  averted  from  the  ful,~e  C(/nftrnEltoncJ  tht  Miniflcr 
oj  L  inc.  as  4  l(o  th  ft  give*,  to  it  iy  the  Parhtin.e-  1.  tsirchb. 
9.umcft,<T»<i  lo.  Fox.Wj*!!  tkejjtjtbtrtc/*  1  hejlandt-g  of 
the  Table  *fttrthctlttr*tian  t>J  the  Lumpy,  *tr.ath*i  the 
itarr.e  oj  Altai  may  be  tffed  IK  a  £  httrc  h  nforr/.rtl. 

TJ  Ithcrrowc  have  followed  youupanddowneac- 
^  ^-cording  as  you  plcaled  to  Icadc  the  way  5  and 

iccnc 


':-     : 


(101) 

icene  what  Arguments  you  had  againft  the  placing  o 
the  holy:  Table  Mtar-r»;fe  e  borrowed   from  the 
RegaU  and  'Epfjfopatf  power:  or  rather  how  you 
amwcr  the  Doctors  Arguments  from  thence  derived. 
VVte  luve  go&calfo  over  all  .yo'.!rCavil<?  devifed  a* 
gainlt  liis  evidence  from  the  Atts  and  Monument  s^ 
\vherein!  e  fliewedyoa  how  indifFcrently,thofe  holy 
men,  Fryth^  Latnlcrt^  Phitjotj  latywrr^  and  RjJley% 
uied  the  name  ^  Altar  ^  calling;  the  blefled  Sacrament. 
ti\K.Sacr<wKnt  of  the  Alt  ar^  without  Jottbtorfcrttpte. 
And    howfocver  you  endeavoured   to  ftop  their 
mouths,  that:  fo  they  fhouldnot  fpeake  at  all^  or  bribe 
them,that  they  might  be  drawne  to  fervc  your  turnc  : 
yet  they  have  fliewne  themfcivcs  ri^ht  honeft  meu, 
andltood  to  all  things  which  they  (aid  at  rhe  firft  re- 
port.  You  may  doe  v/ell  to  deale  more  faithfully  here 
after  faj  in  }our  quotations  of  thofe  bookgt^  rchcretn  all 
forts  of  men  are  jo  throughly  vcrfeJ*  We  alfo  have  made 
good  the  Statute,  touching  t  he  Sacram.nt  of  the  Altar  ^ 
and  the  condition  of  the  wric  in  the  fame  awarded, 
from  your  vaine  aflaults:,  by  which  you  cannot  buc 
perceive,  that  if  a  man  fhould  call  the  Sacrament  of 
the  Lords-  Suffer,  by  the  old  koowne  and  common 
rume,  (asyourfelfeconfeflethit  to  be)  of  Sacrament 
cf  the  Altar  \  the  Law  will  be  his  warrant  in  it  againft 
all  your  fury.  So  farre  we  have  gone  after  you  in  your 
ov/ne  method.  But  now  we  will  crave  leave,  to  col- 
left  out  of  you  into  one  body  ,  wh.it  ever  more 
occurresbctweenethe  Doctor  and  your  felfc,  of  the 
point;  in  hand,  as  it  re'ites  unto  this  Church,  and  the 
LitHrtfcs,  Rttbrickj  of  the  fame  5  before  wee  looke 
abroadintoforruincp.irts.  And  this  wee  fhallthera- 
therdoc5bccaufe  you  brought  us  in  your  laft  Chapter, 

I  3  through 


(lOl) 

Secfl.  I.    through  the  A&s  *nd  Monuments^  into  the  times  ot 

K.E^T ard  the  (ixt,  and  Qu.Elteabeth :  whom  wee  are 

loath  to  part  withall5beforc  we  have  examined  every 

paffogc  which  concerncs  thofe  times  and  them  that 

followed, Firft  thcn,befldcs  the  fhtutc  before  remem- 

brcd  ,  enacted  by  King  E</n?.6.  and  revived  afterward 

by  Qu.  Elizabeth,  wherein  the  name  of  Sacrament  of 

the  AlttrK  contained  cxpreily  :  the  King  did  fet  out 

(tO  jniimnioas  ccrtaine  (l))  Injunctions^  in  the  faid  firfl  yecre  of  his 

mr/fcafprtor*  re^ne3  where  it  is  called  the  bleffcd  Sacrffment  of  the 

1-dw.v.dtf.  &c.  Altar.  And  in  the  Lititrgie  of  the  ycerc  1349. -being 

An.u47-  C'9-  the  third  yecre  of  that  Kinjzsreigne,  i:  is  agreed  upon 

both  fide?,  that  the  holy  Table  is  generally  calledan 

Altar:  tvery rrhere  calkd an  Altar^  as  in  the  firft,  and 

alv.'oft  every  where,  as  in  your  fccond  Edition  of  the 

Bifhops  Letter.  Nor  was  ittobedoubtcd.jbut  that  the 

old  Alters  being  (landing,  the  old  name  continncd. 

The  difference  is,  both  for  the  tiws.,  how  longthcy 

ftood^  and  for  the  wanner,  how  they  were  taken 

downc  ^and  for  the  JL/V/^/Vitfelfcj  on  what  occafion 

it  was  changed. 

Firft  for  the  time,  the  Bifhoptelsusin  his  letter, 
thuc  they  flood  a yecrc  or  trro  in  K'wg&Jrrards  tiwi: 
Now  you  in  large  the  time,  to  foure  y  ceres  ^  as  the 
0-;  p3g-8S.  J3--.(ioth  :  faying(£)f/'<y  food  three  crfottre  yeeres  before 
the  Kings  Teclaralion  ^  but  in  the  fame  you  tell  usalfo, 
that  they  food  not  one  cowpleteyeere,  before  the  godly 
consideration  ofthepeople(t\\zt  is5as  you  expound  your 
felfc,  the  irregular  Jonvardncfft  of  the  people)  had 
ta^n  them  to  t4s/<f.  That  they  (lood  fourcyceresat 
the  lead,  the  Doftor  proves  by  an  hifloricall  deducti 
on  out  of  the  ftories  of  thofe  times.  (a)  In  which  it 
doth  appcare  that  An.  1^47.  the  A&  of  Varliamcnt 

was 


tb  tA  t*r. 


was  parted,  wherein  it  was  intituled  the  Sacrament  . 
the  Altar:  that  An.  1548.  the  Common-prayer  books  * 
was  confirmed,  aJthough  not  publifticd  till  the  next, 
then  neereathand,  which  was  1549.  where  the  word 
Altar  is  of:  ufed,  every  where,  or  almoft  every  rvhcrey 
you  know  not  which.  That  in  the  Paid  yeere  1549.  an 
Order  came  to  BP.  Bonner  from  the  Lords  of  the 
Counccll,  for  abrogating  private  MaJJes^  wherein  ic  * 
was  appointed  that  the  holy  blefled  Communion  bee 
zniniftred  at  the  high  Altar  of  the  Church,  and  in  no- 
other  place  of  the  fame.  Aft.  andMon*  part.  2. p.  662. 
And  finally,  that  in  the  fourth  yeere  of  his  reigne 
(Ncvemb.24.  1550)  there  came  an  Order  from  the 
Councell  to  BP.  Ridley,  (whofucceededltotuw)  for 
taking  downe  the  Altars  in  his  DioccfTe.  p.69p.  which 
Order  commingto  the  BP.  (c)  with  certaine  reafons  /c>par>, 
alfofent  frcm  the  Lords  of  the  Councell,  the  fore- 
named  BP.  of  London^  as  the  ftorie  tels  us,  did  hold 
ct  his  Visitation  ^  \vhcrein  hce  did  exhort  thofe 
iC  Churches  in  his  dioct  (Te,\vhcrein  the  Aliarsd\<\  re- 
"  maine,  to  confcrme  themfelves  unto  thofe  other 
cc  Churches  which  had  taken  them  downe,  and  lud 
C:  fet  up  in  fteadpfthe  multitude  of  their  Altarsjmc. 
Cc  decent Tablem  every  Church.  Which  exhortation, 
as  it  feeF.ieth,  did  prevailc  fofarre,  that  not  long  after 
the  ^//<*/-j  were  taken  dcwne,  and  Tables  fet  up  in 
the  Churches.  That  it  was  done  thus  in  all  other 
diocefcs,  the  Doctor  finds  not  any  where,  but  in  the 
letter  to  the  Vicar.*  where  it  is  faid  indeed,  and  no 
more  but  faid,  that  on  the  Orders  of  breaking  downe 
Altars,  all  dioccfcs  did  agree  upon  receiving  Tablet-^  all 
diocefes  afattt  as  thjt  of  London^  as  your  corrupted 
Copie  hach  ic.  For  proofe  of  which  5  as  you  have 

I  4  falGficd 


•«!f 


Sedl.  14    folfified  the  Bifhops  letters  to  bring  ic  in  $  fo  you  hate 
falfified  the  Afta  and  Monuments  to  make  h  good. 
For  where  the  words  run  on  in  a  continued  ftilc  oc 
fenfe$  you  ftop  them  where  you  lift,  to  make  them 
fpeakc  that, which  they  never  meant.  The  words  run 
(?)/f^j  and    thus  inrhc  Edition  (f)  which  you  choofc  to  make  up 
Mon.ff.Kitd.    the  matter.  ^Furthermore  in  the  yeere  next  follow- 
'^6'      *    Ciin£,  r 5 50.  other  Letters  likewife  were fcnt  for  the 
<e  taking  down  e  of ////<//•/  in  Churches,  and  fettingup 
Ccthc  Table  inftcad  of  the  Time,  unto  Nicholas  JtiJl^ 
<vwho  b  ing  Bifhop  of  Jtocheflcr  before  9  was  then 
"nuflcB. o\ Lo/tJoumfioufurj  place:  the  Copieand 
"  contents  of  the  Kings  letters  are  thefe  as  followeth. 
,->)  pag.uB.    HcrCjfay  you3(^)rhe  fblJ  point  fliould  bc5  atfttttog  up 
theTablcittftcaJoftlxfowe.  And  then  a  new  period  ro 
begin  wirh  the  following  words,  nnto  Hhhohs  Ridley^ 
Scc.Bv  this  device  you  thinkc  to  hive  wonne  the  day, 
not  feeing  that  by  this  fine  fancy,  you  have  made 
non-fenfe  of  the  firft  period,  and  very  ftranpc  Engl/JI) 
ia  the  laft.  For  let  the  firft  be  thus;  "  Furthermore  in 
"  tltytrrc  1 550.  otlrr  Letters  tifyirtji  rrcrefrvt  for  the 
•   <c  titkinz  down  of  Altars  jnJ fitting  up  the  Tu/t/e  iff  ffc<r.t 
ffthi-fitme:  and  then  we  Hull  have  kuvr's  fcnr,  to  we 
know  not  whom  5  which  would  bee  anfwcred  and  o- 
bcyedj  we  know  not  when.  Then  take  the  fecond  by 
itfelfe^  unto  Nicholas  Ridley  (wlwkiffgB?.  ofKo- 
chefler  Itfort.rraf  then  made  Bfu?/London/«  Bonncrs 
plact)  thcCopie  and  contents  of  the  Kings  Letters 
are  thefe  as  followeth  :  and  then  you  fee  tlic  Cart  be 
fore  the  Her fc,  ancigiyeusfuch  a  kindofE/7^//y7j3asis 
not  juftifiable by  the  Grammar  of  thcEagl/ffo  tongue. 
Befidcs  which  handling  of  your  Author,  you  venture 
on  an  affirmation  that  you  have  no  ground  for  3  nay  I 

am 


am  fare  you  know  the  contrary  to  what  there  you  faj>.  Cap. 4. 
You  cite  us  (h)  elfeu  here  in  your  booke,  the  third  Ser-  (h)  p^ 08.109. 
mon  of  Ef. Hooper  upoa  lonah,  preached  before  King 
Edpp. An  if 5 o fay you; An. 1 551. faith M . P/^w^whofe 
account  I  follow.  And  in  that  Sermon, Cc  //  were  well 
et  then  (faith  hc)that  it  might  pleafe  the  Magijirates  to 
"turne  the  Altars  into  TMts^  according  to  the  firfi: 
" inftitution  of  fhrtjijo  takeaway  the  falfe  pjrfwafi- 
Cc  on  ofthc  people,  they  have  of  facrifices  to  be  done 
Ct  upon  the  Altars.  For  as  Iongasthe///A*/vremaine, 
tc  both  the  ignorant  people  ^  and  the  ignorant  and  cvill 
" perfv/aded  P//V/?,  will drcame  al waics  offgfri/ifg.  By 
which  it  is  apparant,  that  whatfoevcr  had  bcenc  done 
by  BP.Ti/V/^all  other  diocefies3  as  rveU  as  that  of  Lon- 
don$\&  not  agree  on  putting  downe  of //////r/3and  fet- 
ting  up  ofTaMes^s  you  rafhly  fay  :  there  being  Alttirs 
ftandingftill,  Anno  155  i3(which  Br.W^/'tf/' much  com  «• 
plainesof  ^ )  which  was  a  ycerc  after  the  taking  downe 
of  Altars  by  BP.  Ridley  in  his  Diocefie.  Nor  is  it  likely 
that  the  Altars  generally  were  taken  downe  through 
out  the  KingdomCjUntill  the  feconcl  LitHrgie  was  con 
firmed  by  Parlijwc nt ,  whicji  was  not  till  the  ycere 
155 2. a$  you  fay  yourfelfe. 

Next  for  t^fe  manner  how  they  were  taken  downe, 
you  tell  us  in  the  BrJJwpj  letter^1')  that  the  people  bet  >.g 
fcat?daliz>ed  herewith  (i.e.  with  Attars)  in  Country 
Churches,  firfl  beats  them  downs  de  fafto ,  then  tic 
Supreme  Msgijlr-.te,  b)  a  kinde  of  Law ,  puts  tlt:m 
dov>»e<\c  jure.  Your  Copie  (  )ftito  nbvo  relates  it  thus, 
as  viz.  that  the  people  being  fcandalized  herewith  in  '' 
Country  Churches,  firft,  it  fecntes9  beat  them  downe 
dt  fitto;  then  the  Supreme  Magiftrate  ,  (<ts  here  the 
King)  by  the  advict  ofArchbificp  Cranmcr  and  the  reft 


Scdl.    I.    "/^  Cowfctt  did,  An.l  j  5o.by  a  kind  of  Lawp;//  /£«0 
rfW*f  de  jure,  4.  £^.6g  1^.24.  This  altcrarion  you 
have  made -to  fhift  the  fccnc  a  little,  and  carry  this 
tumultuous  breaking  downe  of  Altars ,  which  you 
here  defcribc,  from  hence  to  Germany.  For  you  per1' 
(V)jv,g.T£<s.    ce/re  by  this,  that  he  relates  in  the  firjt  place,  (k)  to  the 
reformation  of  Altars  bejotidtbefeas  (lecaufe  kefteakgs 
of  Supreme  Magiftrates, )  which  the  people  began  b) 
rrayoffa&jbefore  f/«  Magiftrates  ejtablifoed  the  fame  bj 
VPjyofL&w.  o^Wf/;*fvyou  fay.  Luther complriries of 
etr.ilvfi  Cnroloftadius,//;*//  he  chofc  r<rfhfr  to  f:etv  clorrne.> 
fh.tfj   cl'ifyttte  (lorttie  Alters.    No  qucftion  but  the 
An^rls  which  removed  our  Ladies  chamber ,  from 
her  houfc  in  Kclklcm  unto  her  Chappcll  at  Lorettoy 
atlHted  you  in  the  performance  of  this  miracle,  lc 
could  not  poffibly  bee  the  \vorkcof  amortall  man, 
tofliif't  fo  fuddenly  a  bufinefTc  of  this  weight,  from 
l.i  /^".r'''//;''/)'to  *he  parts  beyond  fea.  ("')  Mr  vox  hoini- 
nut  final.  Ifjppy  man  bee  your  dole,  that  are  foliigh- 
ly  in  the  favour  of  your  friends  and  followers,  that 
\vhatfoevcr  you  fay  unto  them  is  received  as  GofyclL 
You  had  noc  elfe  adventured  on  fo  fine  a  Legwd^  buc 
that  you   can   command  beleefe,  even  from  very 
Infidels.   (n)  tarn  ficilts  in  wendacnsfdes^  tit  etiam 
cndiderint  alia  monftrofit  mir&cnla.  But  tell  mee  be- 
tweene  you  and  me;I  will  kecpc  your  counfcll  ^  how 
can  this  bufincfle  relate  unto  thofe  of Germany?  be- 
caufe,  fay  you^  bcej^r^r/  of  Supreme  Magijirates. 
Why  man.  Your  ownc(")  edition  hath  it  Ma^ijlrate^ 
not  MJt'flrjffJ  $  an(i  will  you  flic  off  from   your 
ownc?  Bt  fides  you  tell  us  in  the  words  immediately 
before,  that  in  ^Edwards  Liturgie  of  1549.  //  is  al- 
iH oft  every  where \  but  in  that  0/1^52.  it  H  no  where 

called 


fnjMinut< 


S  uprtm" 


('67) 

catitdttt  Altar^  but  the  Lords  boord^  Then  you  goe  on.,  Cap  !• 
andaskc,  why  fa?  and  prefently  retwrne  thisanfwer, 
becaufe  the  people  being  fcattdalized  herewith  in  Country 
Churches,  firfl  itfctmcsbcat  them  downe  dc  fafto  5  and 
then  ihe  fttprewt  Magtflrate*  &c.  Kind-hearted  Gzr- 
wanes  ,,  that  Jiking  not  of  Altars  in  K.  Edwards  Li- 
turgie,would  beat  them  downe  at  home5in  their  ov/ne 
Countries ,  becaufe  the  people  (which  they  never 
heard  of)  were  fcandalizcd  herewith  in  England. 
Faich  tell  mee  3  doc  you  not  thinkc  them  very  honeft 
fcl/mvet.,  and  that  a  dozen  of  Granthaw  Ale  were  well 
beftowed  upon  them,  by  the  Alderman  there,  for  do 
ing  fuch  an  excellent  piece  of  fcrvice,  to  promote  the 
caufe  ?  I  need  not  tell  you  more  of  this  trim  inventi 
on,  which  made  you-fa!fifie  the  letter,  with  n  long 
PstrcffthcfiS)  as  here  the  Kin^  8cc.  to  bring  in  this  Pa 
geant.  Ouely  I  advife  you  as  a  fpeciall  friend  ,  to 
take  a  Cdre  you  fee  it  entred  in  the  next  edition  of  the 
48s  a/td Mw/ttKatf,  which  every  time  it  comes  into 
the  world,  growes  bigger,  by  fuch  hands  as  yours  5 
and  wiU3no  doubt^  in  time  grow  great,  and  bee  (>')  Li-  (p)  Pdlibus 

VJwingClfS.  cxiguis  arcla- 

«TT  Ti     i  <  »  .1       y-»t         f       f          ,       i tlir  J-jvius in- 

Well  then,  the  Altars  in  the  Church  of£ig/tf«#gc 

bein{?  thus  beaten  downe  by  the  hi gh-Ger wattes t  what 
did  the  Engliflj  doe  themfelves?  No  doubr  but  they 
did  beat  them  downe  too^  and  fo  they  did :  the  one, 
in  your  imagination  onely,  true  d.u'nty  forge  of  new 
devices^  the  other  in  very  deed,  de  fatfo.  And  then 
the  King  came  after  wich  lusboff/e  attdha^to  learnc 
of  fuch  good  teachers  what  hce  was  to  doe  in  the  cafe 
dtjure.  Firft  beaten  downed  fiffo,  then  put  downe 
dejttre  :  firft  by  the  people,  after  by  the  King  ^  who 
a$the  Doftor  told  you  in  his  Code  from  the  Altar. 

could 


I  rf  eoul.1  not  but  come  too  late  to  carry  anyftroafy  at  all  info ,. 
great  bufiMfle,  which  they  haddonc  before  hcc  came. 
1  warrant  you,  the  King,  being  young,  could  not  con- 
tainchimfelfe  within  doores,  but  muft  needs  run ne  to 
fee  the  fport,  when  hee  heard  thematic:  and  being 
come,  thanked  his  good  people  for  their  paines,  and 
fo  fent  them  home.  But  that  your  thoughts  were  ta 
ken  up  amongft  the  Germans,  you  fhould  have  told 
your  itoric  thus :  viz.  That  firft  the  people  beat  dowa 
tome  c!cfa8ojm\  then  the  Kin^  much  taken  with  the 
example,  put  downe  the  rcit  dt  jure^  and  by  publick 
order.  Yet  had  you  told  it  thus,  the  Do&or  poffibly 
mi^luhavequeftioned  you  for  the  relari  *n  :  defiring 
you/'  as  formerly,to  tell  where  you  find  ir :  cither  that 
they  wzit  beaten  dvTftte^otb  eaten  dorrtJc&tfa€\o  bytht 

COM  won  people.  That  theyC4')  were  taken  downe  in  the 
(q  Aasand  .,        *    /.    ^,        ,        ~^ ,  ,     ^   ,      ... 

N.oii.i'au.i.     woftpart  of  theChurct.es  of  this  Rwlwe,  the  Kings  let- 

p-^9-  ters  tell  us:  but  taking  dorvm  implies  an  orderly  pro 

ceeding;  beating  dortnc,  hath  none.  And  the  Kings 
letters  f  .y  wirhall ,  that  they  were  taken  downe  on 
good  and  godly  confederations  :  which  as  the  Doctor 

(r)cuf/}*Mjfe  thinks,  CO  tfffpljejf  fome  order  and  authority  from  them 
i.  that  hadapower  to  Joe  it  5  fome  ferret  Order  poflibly 
from  the  Lord  Trotetfour^  or  thofe  thit  after  finned 
the  letter,  who  meant  to  try  this  way  how  the  thing 
would  rclifh,  before  they  would  appearc  in  it,  or  bee 
feenetoa&it.  Or  put  the  cafe,  fome  Bifliops  now, 
fliould  on  fome  grounds  to  them  heft  knowne,  give 
way  unto  the  Clergie  of  their  fcverall  Diocefies,  to 
place  the  Table  Altar- wife  \  and  i  hen  the  King  fliould 
(igoific  to  the  BifhopofL/»r0/«,  that  it  was  come  \m« 
tohisknowledor;,  that  in  many  places  of  the  King- 
dome  the  holy  i  able  was  removed  to  the  Altar  place 

on 

-  -  .       . 


!^~ 


on  ccrtaine good  and  godly  considerations:  would  this  Cap.  4% 
Vcan  A 'guraent  unto  future  ages ,  thactbis  vras  done 
(fcfaffo  by  the  Countr ie  people  >  bcfidcs,wb,y  fhouW 
you  thinke  i\&  people  iv.maftpUcesof  tie  Realwe,  were 
fcandajized'with  Altars,  in.  the  Countrie  Churches} 
v/henin  fo.rr.any  places  of  the  R.;alme,they  tookeup 
Armes  j  tccauie  tlve  A/^<r  was  taken  from  them. 
Thofe  enterprifes  which  you  fpeake  of,  offomcccr- 
talne(r)  Z  lots,  in  he  beginning  of  K.  EJtvardj,Q\x. 
Maries.  aodQut.  Elizabeths  rcigne,  which  (braecimcs 
you  c*\\  good  and  gody  confidtratwHS ,  and  (bmcrimes 
the  irregular  forwardffejfe  of  the  people.  Were  before 
any  law  eftablifhcd :  and  therefore  of  no  kin  to  thefe. 
Things  werenow.fcded;byalawjandbythac  law  the 
Altars,  were  to  ftand  as  before  they  did.  Nor  durft 
the  people  in  the  moft  part  of  the  Churches  of  the 
Kealme  have  taken  downe  the  Altars  then  by  hw 
cftablifhed.,  on  &&y  private  n/tJtd4rrt./0/iliQw  good  Co* 
ever :  therefore  I  fhould  rather  thinke  chat  it  was  done 
in  fome  places,  and  by  authority  from  Tome  Ordina 
ries.,  lucb  whom  the  Lords  found  ficccft  for  the  altera 
tion.  You  cavill  with  the  Doftor,  aod  reckon  it  (l)a-  ^ti  twOy** 
cnonft  his  jainings,  for  telling  you  whar/>/^  Dottrine  jeuafhorttf 
thh  rfosfittke  common  pQopl*-.  viz.  this yorr  report  of  0/^fatn-"l 

•         •         I  t        At*         •      \      r*  *-i  ar.J  >>u  filling. 

beacm^  downc  tnc  Altars  in.Ruc  Coarttry  Churches:  t,tl. 
vherein  hcc////f/.  you  Ciy,  bec.iufc  th.c  it-iton  ovJj 
mc.»tiou£thit.  as  a  mtfttx  of  fafl*.  Bin;  beir>p  it  wag  fuch 
%  Fu%->  as  drew  on  the  /^iPjthe^^//vn>youjtelJ-i!i3 
of,  which  after  put  them  dowue  drj/t/v  :  thinly  ycu^o 
meccwithno  apt  fctucllcrs,  thaccan  tcJJibow  toruifc 
a  Joftrinc  our  of  the  relation,?  if  Our  AnceftQiiis  in 
dayc-s  w«  re  zealous  of  the  reform;uion), 
f^jjt^s.^  and  why  (IxouKv^e 
betray 


Scdc, 


1*8. 


(t)  p.i'g;  144. 


"  betray  C  ods  caufe,  and  fuffcr  them  to  be  advanced? 
Arc  you  allured,  that  none  amongft  your  partizat»f 
will  apply  it  fo,  and  after  vouch  you  for  their  Author 
As  for  the  Order  of  K.  E^aw^whjch  you  have  fligh 
ted  with  a  kittdoflaw  ,  (as  you  didthat  in  Qu.  £//- 
tabctbs  Injunctions  with  a  k\ndo(  Jbwewbat)  youftiil 
ftand  to  that,  as  being  neither  A&of  Parliament^  nor 
Attef '  Gonncell^  buc  an  Act  of  the  King  Jittingin  Conn" 
cell.  A  moft  pretty  quillet  (u.)  Here  is  afubtilty  in 
deed,  afubtilty  iu  Print,  astheyufe  to  fay.  But  take 
hst&^mhilodiofiiH  ejtnmioacumine.  Youfhould  not 
(pend  too  many  of  your  nice  diilinctions  upon  Kings 
and  Princes. 

Now  for  the  alteration  of  \kclJtvrgle ,  which  did 
indeed  draw- with  it  a  full  and  finall  alteration  in  the 
thing  now  talked  of :  you  take  great  paines  to  make  ic 
viGblc  unto  the  world,  that  Calvin  had  no  finger  in  it. 
It  had  becne  happy  for  this  Church ,  if  hce  andSeza 
could  havekepr  themfelves-to  their  meditations^  and 
not  becne  curiojiinaliena  republic •</,  as  rhey  were  too 
much.  You  fay  otCalvin  that  he  was  a  Pofypragr/toa  ty 
and  made  bis  letter  sflie  to  all  Trincesinth*  world  that 
did  but  look$  towards  a  Re  far  Mat  ion  :  and  that  no  wan 
(^conceives  him  to  be  More  pragmatical!}  zealous  than 
you  doc^ven  in  thofi  Countries  which  cared  leaft  for  him. 
If  fo,  why  take  you  up  the  Bucklers  for  him3or  thinke 
hee  might  not  ftickle  here,  as  in  other  places  ?  The 
Doftor  drew  a  ftory  of  it  from  his  owne  Epifllcj  5 
which  you  indcavor  to  *cfell  3  by  making  ante-date^ 
or  falfe  dates  unto  all  his  letters,  and  unto  moft  of  all 
the  reft,  whom  you  there  produce.  As  for  example :. 
The  letter  to  my  Lord  Vrouttottr^  you  date  Otto,  tzir 
which  was  anere  before^,  Edpttrd earns uvtr 

tt* 


(in) 

ai  you  fay  your  fclfc  :  what  time  hee  Cap.4? 
neither  was  Vrotc^onr^  nor  was  there  any  E0g//jftr'.  <c;ibid 

to  except  againft.  Then  that  Archbimop  C/w*. 
-,  (J)  did  write  for  £//<^r  to  come  over5thc  2.  of  0#,  (djpa  »e.r« 
/f*.  1549.  when  Buccr  had  becne  here  a  long  time  be- 
fore,  and  being  at  Canterbury  writes  (c)  a  letter  to  P. 
Martyr,  dated  the  zo  day  oflattt  that  yeere :ar.d  fo  you  «•»•  p-x 
make  him  come  before  he  was  fent  for.    So  for  the  ^^  F  ift< 
treatie  with  the  French  t  whereof  Calvin  fpeakes  (f,)  Buccrum.' 
you  make  that  March  24. 1549,  when  buccr  had  been 
here  10.  raoneths  acleaft  :  andyetyoudate  Pit.  Ale. 
xanderj  letter  (s)  on  the  fame  day  alfo,writ  by  the  ap-        a^, 
pointmcntof  my  Lord  Archbifhop  toinvice  him  hi- 
ther.  And  thus  you  toile  and  moile  your  felfe3(ll^<g-. 
naniia ^ecum^  frontibia  adverfis  com\>oncrc-j.Q }  oy n  fuch 
things  together  as  arc  not  competible.  But  all  is  well 
enough  fo  it  pleafe  the  people,  and  that  you  can  fee 
out  the  Do&or  like  a  lack  of  Lent ,  for  every  boy  to 
=fling  hiaftickat.     Therefore  to  fet  the  matter  righr, 
and  lee  you  fee  the  Doftor  is  not  fo  extrcamcly  igno 
rant  in  (')  all  tbiflorj  eft/jofe  times,  as  you  pleafe  to 
mike  him:  I  will  fet  down  fonac/w#-//and  lanJwarly 
as  it  were  for  our  dirc&ion  in  this  fearch,  fuch  as  by 
no  meancs  can  deceive  us.  Know  then}tlnt  (k}  on  the 
Jaft  of  Jan.   1547.  according  to  the  accompt  of  thofe 
forraine  S:ates,  which  doe  begin  the  ycerc  at  Chrrft- 
wa/CiK.   Edward  came  unto  the  Crowne :  that  (J)in  ri) 
the  IH*J  following  hee  fee  out  his  I/tjtt»&w»/titithc 
•which  many  things  there  are,  that  tcnduntoaflefor- 
mation  ofR.eligion  :' and  that  in  the  (m)  November  9\- 
ter,  in  the  felfe  fame  ycerc ,  hee  held  his  firft  Parlia-  (™)Vt'h* B<t- 
naentjWherein  the  diftributionof  the  Sacrament (")/"£-  ia. 
#tr*$tte  jf ecfey  was^  by-  law  elhbliflied.    An.  154? 


Sc£.  u 

(o)A<fb4fl<f 

Mon.fjrr,*. 


f;r;  Bucerin 
enpi.  Anglic 


.tw  swtttts. 


(c)  In  fcript. 
An^Hc. p.lyl, 


(*)W-p.£oo. 
(»)ld.p.«ej 


Feb.  1 1 .  <°)  an  Order  was  fent  forth  by  the  lords  of  the 

CoHttcettfai  the  abolifaing  of  Images  ^  March  the  1 3. 
next  following,  the  Or  dtr  of admini firing  the  Commit* 
nion^  (?)  agreed  upon  at  Windfor^  by  the  Prelates  and 
other  learned  men5(i)  was  by  the  King  confirmed,and 
recommended  to  the  Bifliops  for  the  publick  ufc.  And 
on  the  2.  of  0#.  the  fame  yecre,  did  the  Archbifhop 
write  to  Eucer  tocomeover  \w.\\zt.(*)yenijgitvr  ad. 
nos^  &  teoperariumprtftain  mejje  Domini  j&  the  letter 
tell  us.    In  the  November  of  tlutyeere^beganne  the 
fccond  0  Parliament  of  K.  Edward^  and  held  on  till 
the  14.  of  March  next  after,  falling  in  Ay.  1 549.  in  the 
fame  accompt ;    in  which  the  firil  Liturgie  was  con 
firmed  and  ratified.  The  tenth  day  after  that ,  March 
24.    Pet.  Alexander^  Secreraue  to  the  Archhj(hop3 
writes agahe  to  Bucer  (c,)  vivbz.VtnilgtHrqHamci'' 
lijjiwepotcru:  and  the  lunc  after  that  wee  finde  him 
here  at  Canterbury*  from  whence  he  writ  to  Yet. Mar* 
tyry  as  before  was  faid.  (u)  Apr.  6.  Proclamation  was 
made  for  putting  doxvne  the  Mj/e  throughout  the 
Realme  :  (*) the////;  following, thofe  of  Devonfkirt 
and  Cornwall  rofe  up  in  Armcs,  dcfiring  to  have  their 
old  religion  reftoreJagaine  5  and  (y)on  the  8.  o?Au* 
&tft  next,  (thcKingdomc  bcin^  thus  embroyledjche 
French  AmbafTadour  made  defiance  to  the  Kin*  of 
England.  (*)  The  14.  of  03.  after,  the  Duke  of  So- 
mcrfet  was  committed  to  the  Tower,  and  (a)  thence 
rclcafed-F<f(5r.  6.  1550.  and  on  the  8  of  4pril/  ncxt> 
(being  before  difcharged  oftheProrcftourfhip,  (was 
(wornc  Q>)  Privy  Gounfellour.*  Meane  time,  (c)  on 
Ian.  22.  CommifHoncrs  were  fent  to  treat  ofa  peace 
with  France ,  which  was  (d)  proclaimed  the  laft  of 
March  next  after  following.   <An.  1^51.  lattMar.  30. 

Mart. 


cPicd.   The  i6.(<)  05?.  after,  the  Duke     Cap.4. 
of  Sorxcrpt  was  committed  to  the  Tower,  tnd  on  the  'O'* «  P«0-  1 
firft(e)oi-JCte*;»for  following  condemned  to  death.  fu£m,ep"oj; 
/?»/?•   15  J2.(h)  /**.  22.  the  Duke  ofSomerfet  was  be-  (f)j<»'/.si<w. 
headed  i  and  on  the  morrow  (')  next  began  the  ParlU  ?•'•# 

7     ,  /.         i  .          t*.    fir  i  .- •  (s)Ii.p.<0*^ 

ament  5.  $•  6.  of  Erfn>.  6.  in  which  the  fecond  Liturgy  (\^  lorht  Sttl9 
was  confirmed.  This  faid,wc  (hall  be  fure  to  find  how  f-  f*7. 
matters  went  5  and  how  farrc  you  have  loft  your  felfe  J^Jfi?"11' 
by  your  too  much  quarrelling.  .  (i)VideStat.j 

The  Doftor  thus  beginnech^  (k)  "  It  feemes  that 
"Bttcer  had  informed  Calvitt  of  the  condition  of  this 
K  Church^  and  the  publicke  JJturgh  thereof,  and 
<c  thereupon,  hce  wrote  to  the  Duke  ofSomerff^ho 
«c  wasthen  Proteftour.  For  thus  he  fignificch  to  Kitccr^ 
(0  Dowinuv  Profctforevt,  HtvekbaSyConatUffumbor'* 
tariff fljgitabatpr<efens  rerum flatus  ^  <^r,and  then  ad- 
vifcth  Svrrrtobeinftant  with  him,///  ritttsqitifitpcr* 
fltlonis  aliqHiireJolwt^  tollwtur  c  mtJioy  that  all  fuch 
rites  as  favoured  of  fuperfticion  (hould  be  took  away. 
And  how  farre  that  might  reach ,  you  can  tell  your 
felfe,  knowing  the  humour  of  the  man  3  as  it  fccmei 
you  doc,  regkOning  him  for  a  VoljpragffwnjLS  before  is 
faid.  Nay  He  wenDfomewhat  further  yer,biddinghini, 
(m)  as  you  note  your  felfe,  to  take  heed  of  his  old 
fault3(for  fault  he  thought  it)  which  was  to  runnc  a 
moderate  courfcin  his  Reformations.,  medihconfiliif 
vtlauthortm  ejje^vcl  approbatorem.     Now  Pet.  Ale 
xanders  letter  for  calling  in  of  Buctr  9 beares  date  in 
March,  154?.  and  ,^?vrrrv  was  at  Canterbury  \htlnnc 
next  following:-?,:  jth^ \gtft'  thing  that  hee  did  at  his 
commiiig  hitherras  hee  faith  himfclfe,  being  to  make 
himfelfeacqusinrcd  with  the  Effg//]/&Liturgie.(B)Cw» 

hoc  r (gaum  vtniffem^  &c.  librum  iHttot  fa-  one  ad  ccnfu* 


K 


0'4) 
Sc&.  I*    croritm9  printer pnteitt)  quantum p9tui) 

gutter,  ashcc  relates ic  to. the  Archbifltop.   Of  his 
heegave  account  to  Cafai»\  and  as  ic  feemes  (Do- 
mlit urn  Protect  onm^  ut  vokbas^&c.)  defired  fome 
letter   from  him    to  my  Lord   Protector.    Not  as 
(n^Hctdefrrcd  (°)  you  drcamc ,  before  his  comming  over  hither, 
Cair:nfo:-7i/r  anc|  before  the  iJtHr^ie  VMS  pubIHhed$  though  pof- 
\+t.  fiWybefore  hcchadbecncfecne  of  the  Duke  of  So- 
'        werfct    (  the  hurly-byrlies   of  thofe   times   con- 
fidered.)   For  CV//w»tels  you  in  that  letter,  tttmul- 
ttu  jaw  iotirt  JeJatos  e/e  confido ,  that  hee  now  ho 
ped,  that  all  the  tumults  and  commotions   within 
tli£  Realme  were  compofed  and  pacified  ^  and  al- 
fo  that  there  was  a  tumour  of  a  truce  \vich  France. 
So  ihat  this  letter  muft  needs  bee  dared  about  the 
Autumne    after    'Bnctrs    comming  *hirher    :    the 
Rebells   not  being   fully   crufhed    till   the  end  of 
jKgvft  ^  and  nothing ,  but  the  newes  of  our  peace 
within,  drawing  the  French  men  to  affent  to  a  truce 
abroad. 

Then  for  his  letter  to  the  Vrote&or  ,  which  is 
herein  mentioned,  cleercly  it  is  the  letter  printed, 
frf-  whidibcares  not  date  two  yccrcs  before,  (P)  as  you 
tar'  wi.h  ignorance  and  confidence  enough,  have  beene 
M^.trAr7  plcafed  to  fay.  For  you  may  fmde  the  d  ate  hereof  by 
».i4.  a  better  c!watiery  bting  the  fame  with  that  to  Xt/cer. 

i?  a-l  ^or('0  nec  takes  notice  in  tha^  letter,  of  thofe  Com- 
.Angl,  motions,  ingtvtcs  ifftturfa,  which  had  hapned  here, 
ab  aliqtto  tttnpore  ,  not  long  before:  asalfothatthe 
alteration  of  religion  was,  in  part,  the  caufe  thereof 
quos  ex  $*rttmtttdtio*n religion* cau ft  concltabat,  as  • 
himfelfe  there  tels  you.  So  that  this  letter  muft  bee 
written  halfe  a  yeerc  at  Icaft  5  after  the  titHrgt 


rie.V-LVll, 


° 


("0 

bHfhed  by  -Aft  of  Parliament,  and  notQihrccjtms  Cap.  4. 
before  ,  as  you  ridiculoufly  compute  it.  As  for  the  frit  ui.fi  bct 
{ubftance  of  that  letter,  hee  there  excepteth  againft  Ms-  ;««'*<• 
Commemoration  of  the  *W(which  he  acknowledged!  /-r*iKt*<M 
however  to  bee  very  ancient,  as  alfo  againft  Chrifae* 
and  extreme  an8io»^  v/hich  hb(ittt8iotti*cercetonia) 
you  have  moft  childifhly  tranflated  (f)  oyle  in  Bap- 
tifrae.  Which  faid,he  wifheth  /&  omnitahCcindifewL 

«i_         1  1    i     <*  •      /*  •  j          f   co)ntnc»!OTnt 

that  all  theie  ceremonies  fliould  bceabrogatcdj  and  vf  ,be  dt»d. 
.that  withallheefliculd  goe  forv/ards  toreformc  the  P's-1*^ 
Church  (r)  without  feare  or  wit,  without  regard  of  (OQuia 
fcace  at  home,  or  corre$o?idcncj  abroad  \  Such  con-  Pe  Ncrili 
(Iderations  being  onely  to  bee  had  in  civill  nutters.  jJJS&i 
but  not  in  matters  of  rhe  Church,  i»  quo  mlilnon  d3  n.,n  s  od  t. 
Dciverbttm  cxigi  fas  ejl,  wherein  not  any  thiugisto  fcrtim  ubl 
bee  exacted,  which  is  not  warranted  by  the  Word  5  LT/nTa  cft! 
and  in  the  managing  whereof  there  is  not  any  thing  l>as-7c. 
morcdiftaftefullinthe  eyes  of  God  thin  (^worldly  fn'idon.biJ, 
wifedomc,*/  vel  tnodcremnr  ,  z*/  rejcindamus^  &c.  T*B-7°> 
either  in  moderating  cutting  off,  or  going  backward, 
butmeerely  as  wee  are  directed  by  his  will  revcaLd. 
Nor  were  thefethrec^  and  that  about  Improprijtions, 
the  onely  things  on  which  he  touchcthris  >ou  pjcafc 
tofa>  Hctouchcthalfotherconthcbookeoff;^-  Cx)Q,,oniam 
W///V/,  which  very  faintly  hee  permits  for  a  fcafon  v««»r  nej.au- 
onely,  but  not  allowes  of  5  and  thereby  gave  the  hint  S?™  j 
toothers  ,  who  ever  fincc  almoft  have  declaimed  a-  coTuionesma, 
gainft  them.  And  if  you  thinke  that  Calvin  never  after  J(Ara'«i«em 
mcdledwHuhe  D»k,  a^out  rhis  bufincflc  ,  of  the  m^^: 
Or^f/  of  the  Church  of  England^  you  arc  exceeding  r-r  /'  s  6o'- 
muchrr-iftaken.  ForwhatfoeverC^fr;//&hechad  he  *?•*?£"% 
loft  but  litle  of  his  power,  though  hee  loft  his  Office  :  fclrf'XS 
and  Crffe/«  ftill  addrefled  himfclfe  unto  him  for  tlie  *  '"•"•*••'- 

K  •>  A  i,         "  /;-''/f  ^'A'f- 

lv  2  Advance-  .,.^7, 


i 

Ac  Iwncemeat  of  the  worke.  Looke  in  his  letter  unto 

(V  *»#»£«•,  dated  ^.  10-1551.  which  was  noc 
™  1U.!!C  a.yecrc  b'foyc  chf  Burgle  was  altered,  and  he 
f  ad  .M-  Wl11  tcH  yo«  what  hec  did  :  O  1  writ,faich  hee,  to  the 
mamDtt-  mofliHttflriofff  D.  of  Somerset  to  this  effet%tha«-  there 

S"  ,WaS  n°hopc  hut  thae  thc  P'Plto  would  grow  info, 
S?teIrjCry  ^X^n^n^  nlfmntimcom^fntm 
ejjft  difidium  dt  ccremonHs^  unlelte  thc  difference  were 
comppfed  about  the  ceremonies.  Compofed,  and 
bow  >  not  by  reducing  thc  opponents  to  conformity, 
but  by  incouraging  themratherin  their  oppofition: 


.rr, 

the  principal!  leader  of  that  fatten,  and  very  zealous 
ramonr,ft  other  things)  againft  the  Alters  yet  rc«» 
mainin^aj  before  1  flievrcd,  Forfo  it  follovvcth  in 
that  letter,  lortatus  tr^o  {urn  hominem^  nt  Hoppcro 
mtnum  porrigeret  $  which  it  fceracs  was  done,  as  he 
propounded.   For  in  another  \x&QBit!lltigtr  dared  rhe 
25>«of  Attgttjl  following,  hee  ccrtifieth  to  htm  fajthac 
L>.H3pperum  Hooper  if  as  rejlorcdtohif  Bifiopricfc.  Now  this  being 
ffirS-  buttheyeere  before  the  aheracioa  of  the  Litvrgi* 
Calvin  being  fo  intent  againft  the  Orders  of  this 
Church,  the  D«%  To  forwards  to  comply  with  him: 
and  Hooper  who  hadnolcfleintereftin  DttJtyofNor* 
thumkrlavJ,  than  Calvin  witluhc  Ditty  of  Somerfet 
(whereof  confulc  your  author  ,  the  Atts  and  Mott. 
par.  3.  p.  1  47.  ;  being  fo  cageron  ihe  chafe  :  it  is  not  to 
bee  doubted  but  thebufinefle  went  forwards,  though 
thc    Duke  went    bickwards.    In    thc  relating   of 
which  fl-oric  you  flutter  up  and  downc,  and  have 
coconfiftency.  You  tell  us  pag.  147.  that  in  the  {irfi 
filing  of  that  Parliament  rrhcrein  the  fecond  Litur- 
git  w*  confirmed.,  he  veas  attainted  tttdcondtmnt^  and 

prcftvtlj 


frefentlj  extent  td  :  whereas  indeed  hee  was  attain-  pao'  y 
tedalmoft  two  months,  and  executed  juft  a  day,  be-      °'^* 


fore  that  fitting.  You  tell  us,  pag.  149.  that  hee 
d  condemned  Prifoner^  looking  every  Jaj  fir  tht  flroke 
of  the  Axt)  when  the  boolq  m*  p'lffog  tfo  COM  mi  ft  iff 
(if  at  all  any  fueh  Committh  ever  was  about  tha: 
Booke  ,  which  I  fomewhac  qucftion  :)  whereas  the 
Axe  had  done,  and  the  ftrokc  was  paft,  before  the 
Scfllon,  or  firil  meeting.  Finally,  whereas,  in  nuny 
places  of  the  B/Jbops  letter,  you  call  the  fecon.l  Utitr- 
giet  tbc-Litwgfe  oftheycerc  1^52.  as  indeed  it  was  : 
you  tell  us  here,  pag.  148.  of  a  ceruine  Letter  which 
Wtttlclivcredto  th  Dnl^  jrom  Cjlvnt^  At).i5>r,  (as 
moft  true  it  is,thar  fuch  a  ii-ttcr  was  about  rhattinie  de 
livered  to  him)  the  Littrrgit  being  tlen  navty  altered. 
And  foby  that  account,  the  titurtfc  was  altercd,wli«i 
as  the  Duke  of  Somtrfet  was  neither  attainted,  con 
demned,  orexccutedj  asbeforc  you  faid.  //  this  your 
looting  unto,  lie  floric  of  the  tiwes^  which  you  fo 
much  bragge  of  ?  But  as  before  I  told  you,  however 
the  Duke  went  backward,  the  \vorke  went  forwards  5 
the  parfee  being  growne  fo  well  compacted,  that  it 
could  goe  alone,  withoutany  leader:  efpecially  D«/r 
Dv.  'l<j  who  then  ruled  the  roft,  having  a  great  opini 
on  of  Bifliop  Hooper  \  who  being  no  fiicnd  unto  the 
Alt  an  of  the  Church  himfeJfe,  might  eafily  induce 
his  Patron  to  promote  the  caufc. 

Next  for  his  tampering  with  the  King  and  Arch- 
bifiiop  Crawm?)  wee  have  good  warrant  from  his 
Letters.  In  that  unto  Farellus  Anno  i55i.heetelsyou 
of  a  Letter  fent  by  him  to  the  K'mg  by  Mafter  Nicolas, 
(one  of  hit  t  el-talus  (hj  as  you  call  him  ;  )  and  of  the 
welcome  it  found  both  with  the  King,  and  with  his 

K  Councell  : 


TfrrTiT-mniTf.r-m  ni  .„       ~  "*  »  tffmi^ 

~"   •    ~~ —  •  •    i 


(1.8) 

Sofl.  I.  Councell :  as  alfo  that  he  was  advifed  by  my  Lord  of 
Ca»ferbttrjto  write  more  frequently  unto  the  King, 
than  heerud  done  formerly.  Not  about  restitution  of 
Iwproprititioas,  that's  but  your  device  5  the  Archbi- 
fliop  fcnt  hini  no  fuch  mcffi^c  ,  unlcffe  you  finde  it  in 
your  drtames.  Cahin  had  other  things  to  aimear, 
although  iiee  tooke  that  alfo  as  it  came  in  his  way. 

iMam'ad  1  a-  "CO  &*  fjttt  Regiti  multa  adhitc  defiJtraittur^  many 
.3S4.  things  were  amiffe  that  needed  reformation.  That  was 
more  like  tobe  the  Argument  of  his  adrefies  to  the 
King.  If  you  will  pleafe  to  take  his  word,  himfelfc 
(hall  tell  you  in  his  aforefaid  Letter  unto  J>t<llhtgery 
that  he  had  writ  both  to  the  King  and  to  the  Councell 
(and  fo  had  BtiUiftger  itfeemc?.)Wkat  was  the  purnofc 
nd  °f  t no^c  ^ ctters ?  (ll)  /// eoj incitaremtts adptrgwaum, 
p.pS.  to  fct  thcnj  forwards  on  the  worke  which  was  then  in 
hand :  writing  withall  unto  the  Duke  of  Someffet^  to 
countenance  Hooper  in  his  oppoficion  to  the  publicly 
or  Jen  then  cftabJifhed.  Your  felfe  have  told  us  of  him, 

ic)P-g  144.  tjiat  jlc  was  ^t^  a  polypragmott)  nul^n^  hb letters flie  to 
all  the  Princes  of  the  norU^  that  didlntt  loofy  towards  a 
Kefir  nut  ion:  If  to  all  /V//;a'/,thcn  no  qucltionbut  to 
our  Kin^ alfo amongft the  reft;  and  what  a  kindeof 
reformation  Calvin  aimed  at,  you  know  well  enough. 
Then  for  his  prucYifing  with  the  Archbifhop  ^  the  Do- 

(f)  ce»'f,m  ftortclsyou(l)rhac  c>  he  had  written  to  him.An.ijjz- 
A. -i  «.;r.|-0j.  (C  ^cjnjrtneyecrc  before  the  £////^/V  was  altcredjCom- 
'•  plaininxin  the  fame3that  in  thcf  erviccof  thisChurch 
cc  there  was  remaining  a  whole  nufle  of  Popery,  qua 
cc  non  obfcuret  ^W^Scc.which  did  net  only  blemifh.buc 
eceven  overwhelme  Cods  holy  worfliip.  This  letter 
being  placed  betweene  two  ochers  dared  the  fame 
y  ccrCjinduccd  the  Dotior  to  bdeeve,that  it  \vas  dated 

that 


that  yeerealfo  rand  this  you  chalcngc  as(?)  A 

^  but  bring  no  better  of  your  (g\ 


j  i  c»  /  *  t>    ' 

own.  Onely  you  v/onld  faine  have  it  dated  before  this  eve 

i  •/-•        •   t      i  r  i  r   froMtLcP 

yeere,andifit  might  bee,  trrojtei'es  iooner  ^bccaufe'fm/,jd;r,,; 


r  —  y  *  rrri  f  lAC  i?l    fr 

he  tcls  the  Archbifhop  there,  of  Chanting  vfjpfrshctc  ib?  letter, *vi!ub 
in  Endand .  in  an  unknowne  tongue  i  which  \vtt*"%urel:i'J'fi) 

r       •    i  M  •       M      T»     i-  /h\   j?  n*  i     an<*  t'"i'onccut 

you  fay,  inhibited  by  Parliament  ( ")  f*U  fwjterej  fa- crit'tcifa.r.n*. 
foretht  altering  of  the  Lititrgie*  But  if  you  niarke  it  Mp^S'1**- 
well,  this  will  little helpc  you.   (')  fiomeMinifcr  of^\^"^T- 
Calvltis  (perhaps  fiis  Tel- tale  Monfk'tr  N/cfl/as)  had 
from  Cambridge  certified  him  ,  how  things  went  in 
*  England:  particularly  how  ill  the  Church  was  pro- 
"videdfor,  and  what  great  fpoyle  was  made  of  the 
cc  mcancs  and  maintenance    thereto  belonging.  Buc  • 
"  more  especially  that  thofc  (great  men  3  who  held 
cc  Abby-lands ,  and  confequently  were  to  pay  fome 
** penjjiottstQ  the  Monkj  furviving,  did  put  them  into 
Ce  benefices  and  cure  offonles ,  who  had  nor  mindc 
c'  nor  meaning  to  difcharge  that  dutie,  ///  pc njione  tif 
"  pcrJofoexJafe  liberarcttt^onely  to  cafe  themfclvcsof 
"paying the  Yenfons.  This  being  certified  to  Calvin, 
by  a  letter  dated  on  Whitfi/ndjy,  An.  1550.  in  his  next 
milTivc  to  the  Archbifliop,  (k)  lice  comp!aincs  off1;  Ep-ft.nd 
both:  Firftjthat  the  Church  wds  focxpofed  to  open  c«nm.p.i«i. 
Tort-ftilc  (quodpr*  d<c  funt  expo  fit  i  Ecclefa  re  Jit  us.) 
And  fccondly,  quod  expublico  Ecclefa  prevent H  jinn- 
titr  otfof  vent  res  9  &c.  that  the  revenue  of  the  Church    . 
fhould  bee  beftowed  upon  thofe  iMe  bellies  (andfo 
you  know  they  called  the  Monies}  which  in  an  unv 
knowne  tongue  chanted  out  the  lr$crs.  If  this  fuf- 
fice  not  for  the  date,  than  bee  pleafed  to  know,  that 
Gahin  in  that  letter  relates  to  fomcwhat  that  had 
bcene  done  by  the  Archbifliop  in  the  Reforming  of 

K*  il;h 


.,...,.  ______  .  , 


(no) 

Se<ft,  I.    t^1's  Church  for  three  yeeres  before.  Atqve  tttintm 
tedttceattquanto  longms  jam  antetriennium  progrefli 
jorent'^  which  (faith  hee)  had  they  done,  there  had 
notbeenc  fuch  fupcrftkions  left,  as  hee  there  com- 
plaines  of.  Now  the  firft  Information  made  by  the 
Archbifhops  means,  was  the  Lommnmon-book$  fet  out 
1  5  48.  for  the  receiving  of  the  Sacrament  ,  fob  ntraqttt 
fpcric.  To  which  if  you  will  adde  tbofc  three  yeeres 
which  are  rherc  rcmcmbrcd  ^  you  muft  needs  date 
this  letter  as  the  Doctor  doth.  An.  1551.  (')  not  one 
minute  fooncr,how  much  before  foevcr  you  dcfire  to 
have  it.  The  Doctor  hereupon  candudcsyjs  before  he 
'*r.ci!ic«ric.  ^d,  "  that  leaving  the  word  Altjrvut  of  the  Common* 
<7v,'.p.i-i8.     Ci  pra)er-l'ooke  laft  eftablidied,  and  other  alterations 
£C  which  were  therein  made  ,   grew  not  from  any 
M/,p.4o-  cc  £m^  fcancjan  taj^en  at  t{ie  Attars  by  the  Countrie 

C;  people,  but  a  didike  that  Cafo/u  had  conceived  a- 

tc  piinft  the  Lkuruie,  as  before  was  faid.  Of  any  hand 

that  MJrti#T>itcer  had  therein,  more  than  that  hee  had 

fi^nincd  unto  ''alv'w,  the  quality  and  condition  of  this 

C  hurrh.  and  of  the  Liturgie  thereof,  the  fiid  Do- 

iTtor  faith  ror  ^  and  this  not  abfoltitcly  neither,  but 

(n)  !>iJ.p.59.  \j\r\\n  fie  v/.ktur.)  ('")  that  fo  itfeemed.  Yet  you  cry 

••o)p--fi-MJ.    om?  v;itlKjUr  a  caufe,  (°)  that  it  was  the   Khig,  the 

Lords^  and  the  State  ,  rather  than  any  incitement  of 

Martin  Buccr,  thtt  nude  this  alteration  in  the  Litur- 

gic.  in  the  point  of  Altars.  An  alteration  there  was 

made  by  the  King  and  State,  though  not  by  the  incite- 

went  o<~  Martin  Bitcer*  but  ttfCafotn  rather,  that  Tolj* 

"*'  pragMon^  as  you  call  him    For  where  you  hope  to 

fhift  it  off  from  him,  by  telling  us  thut  hee  nw  apoore 

Mivrfter  at  thffoot  of  the  Alpcs,  ax.lfliejjn  lookers  ',  aod 

4U>nt>/  tbwry  wcn^qoundsjkrling  :  thats  the  worft 

prankc 


(121) 

prankeofall  the  reft .1  hope  your  friend  7^0 
was  not  very  rich,  perhaps  not  richer  than/0/>*  Calvin^ 
and  yet  of  power  enough  to  difturbe  the  Church  .For, 
that  the  Alteration  of  &.Edrrards  Liturgic  proceeded 
rather  of  fome  motions  from  wi:hour,  than  any  great 
diflikeat  home}  the  Do&or  was  induced  to  belecvc, 
the  rather,  becaufe  the  King  (°)  had  formerly  affir 
med  in  his  Anfwer  to  the  Dtvonflrirc  men,  that  thc 
Lords  Snpfer')  as  it  was  thenadminiftred,  mw  brought 
even  to  the  very  ufc  as  Chrirt  left  it.^s  the  A  pottles  ttfcti 
ittaud<Kthe  hoi}  Fathers  delivered  it.  Acts  and  Monit- 
ments^arti.  ^ag.6(t-j.  Andfecondly3bccaufe  he  had 
obferved^that  in  the  Adi  of  Parliament.,  by  which  char 
Lititrgie  of  1 549.  was  called  in,  the  booke  of  Common 
pr<rjcr(to  called  in)  was  affirmed  to  be  agreeable  to  Cods 
Word^andtke  Primitive  Church.  $.&  6.Ed.6-ca.i.Vi\- 
to  the  firft  of  thefc,  you  promife  Cuch  an  Anfwer, 
( f)  an  Anfwrftt  dor?n».  in  fitch  Capital!  letters^  that  hcc  WP 
that  rnnnts  may  read:.  And  this.no  doubt  you  mean  to 
dne,oncly  in  favour  ro  the  DoiTtor,  who  bcinr,  but  a 
bli»l%rt  as  you  plcafetocall  iiim,  would  havdly  fee 
your  Anfwer  in  a  leficr  chtraHcr  than  a  Capicall  letter. 
But  firft,  becaufc  wee  know  your  tricks,  wee  will  fee 
downe  tnternnnis  (as  the  ftorietels  it)  what  was  de- 
mandtdty  the  RebeUs^  and  what  was  an  foe  red  by  the 
King  :  and  after  looke  upon  iheghjje  \vhich  you  make 
of  both,  that  we  may  fee  which  of  them  you  report 
moft  fal'ely,  and  what  you  gather  from  the  fame. 

The  rlebclsthcy  demanded  thus : 

(q)  "  Forafmuch  as  wee  conftandy  beleeve,  that 
<c  after  the  frifft  hath  fpoken  the  words  of  confccra- 
cc  tion,  being  at  A/^//e,  there  celebrating  and  confe- 
ct  crating  the  fame;  there  is  very  really  the  body  and 

<cbloud 


Sect,  i, 


(l^^) 

;"  bloud  of  our  Saviour  Iffuf  ckrifa  Cod  and  man  5 
"c  and  that  no  fubfbnce  of  bread  and  wine  rcmaineth 
te  after,  but  the  very  felfe  fame  body  that  was  borne 
"  of  the  f/Vg/a  Marj,  and  was  given  upon  the  Croffc 
"for  our  Redemption 5  therefore  wee  will  have 
c<  Uafje  celebrated  as  it  TV<H  in  times  pafl ,  without 
"  any  man  communicating  with  the  Prieffs ,  foraf- 
"  much  as  many  rudely  prefuming  unworthily  to  re- 
et  ceivethe  fame,put  no  difference  between  the  Lords 
"body^  and  other  kinde  of  meat  5  fome  faying  that  it 
ct  is  bread  both  before  and  after^forae  faying  that  it 
C(  is  profitable  to  no  man  except  hee  receive  it,  with 
•'many  other  abufed  tcrmcs. 

Now  to  this  Article  of  theirs,  the  King  thus 

replyed : 

(r)  Cc  For  the  Afy(/f,  I  a(Ture  you  no  fmall  ftudie 
"  nor travell  hath  beene fpent,  by  alithe  learned Cler- 
et  gie  therein3and  to  avoid  all  contention,  it  *r  brought 
"even  to  the  very  t/fe  ^Chrift  left  it,  as  the  Apoftles 
"iikditj  Mticl'olj  Fathers  delivered  it  ^  indeed  fome- 
c-  what  altered  from  that  the  Topes  of  Rome  for  their 
ec  lucre  brought  it  to.  And  although  yee  may  hearethe 
"  contrary  from  fome  PopiJI)  evill  men,  yet  Our  Maje- 
cc  ity.  which  for  Our  Honour  may  not  bee  blemlfhcd 
ccaudftained,  afTureth  you,  that  they  deceive,  abufe 
ec  you,  and  blow  thefe  opinions  into  your  heads,  to  fi. 
iCnifli  their  owne  purpofes. 

This  is  the  f/j/w  fovg,  as  it  pafied  betweene  the 
RebeUsznd  the  King.  And  now  I  willfet  downeyouc 
dcfcanton  it,  in  your  own  words  iwbitwt)  not  a  tittle 
altered,  that  all  which  runncwjiy  raidt^  and  fee  how 
(Iiamcfully  you  abufe  your  owne  dcarcft  Author. 
(f)  The  Jifl:e!s3'm  their  third  Article,  (feton  by  the 

Topijh 


Topifi  Priefts)  doe  petition  for  their  Majfe  (that  is,that  Cap.  4- 
\vhich  v/ce  call  the  Canon  of  the  Maffe)  and  words  of  con- 
ficratlo#,Mthcy  had  it  bcforepnd  that  the  Priejis  might 
celebrate  it  alone  ^w-it  bout  tht  communicating  of  the  peo 
ple.  To  this  the  King  anfwers,  That  for  the  Canon  of  the 
Majfe  and  words  of  Consecration,  (which  is  nothing 
altered  in  the  fecond  Liturgk}tbeyarefneb  a*  were  ufea 
!y  Chriuy/.xr  Apoftles,<W/ 'he  ancient  Fathers :  that  is, 
They  are  the  very  words  of  the  Inftitution.  But  for  the 
fecond  part  of  their  demand,  which  was  for  t\\zjacri* 
/w  of  the  M.^,  or  the  Prhfts  eating  alone  ^  they  muft 
excufe  him  :  For  thk  the  Popes  0/Rome  for  their  lucre 
ad  Jed  to  it.  Sotherei5,fayyou,acleare  X0/avrtoboth 
parts  of  the  Article.  A  vtrjcltare  anfocrtf  you  mark  it 
well.The  Rebels  make  demand  of  the  whole  Maffcjuo- 
do  8c  formats  before  it  had  been  celebrated:  you  make 
them  fpeake  onely  of  the  Canon  of  the  MaJJe^  and  words 
of  Consecration.  The  Kfagjn  his  reply,  makes  anfwcr 
toti\c  whole Mtffty  as  it  was  commonly  then  called, 
the  whole  forme  and  order  of  the  Communion  in  the 
publick  Liturgie^  that  it  was  brought  even  to  the  very 
tffe  as  Chrift  left  //,  the  Apoftles  ttfedit^  and  the  holy 
Fathers  delivered  it:  you  make  him  anfwer  onely  of 
the  Canon,  and  words  of  Inflitution^  as  if  that  were 
all.  This  is  not  to  report  an  anfwer}bu;  to  make  an  an 
fwer  \  and  draw  that  commendation  to  a  pj.rt  of  the 
common  Lit urgie^  which  was  intended  of  the  whole. 
And  yet  your  Inference  is  f  irrc  worfe  than  your  Re 
port:  For  you  hive  nude  the  King  tofiy,  that  they 
ihould  have  a  Tab/t^ond  a  Communion^  and  the  words 
of  Consecration^  asrhcy  were  u  ted  by  f  /./'//?,  the  Apo- 
flej,a,n<\  rhe  ancient  1'^htrs :  but  they  fliould  hive 
no  Altar  9  nor  fa<r/fir  ,  fa  the  (I  tie  r?*?:  c;  Kcr.c. 

for 


S  cdl.  I  ,  fof  *t}e'r  l{tcrt  h'tdtJJeJto  the  Inflitutlon&t  all  which  , 
not  one  word  in  all  your  Author.  This,  were  there 
nothing  clfe,  would  fet  you  forth  for  what  you  are  ^  a 
man  rh  at  cares  not  what  you  fay,or  whom  you  falfme, 
fo  you  may  run  away  from  the  prcfent  danger,  though 
after.vards  it  overtakes  you,  and  fals  farre  heavier  on 
you  than  before  it  did. 

Next,  let  us  fee  what  you  reply  to  that  which  con- 

cernesrhe  P<//-//.*w<v;/3  and  the  opinion  which  it  had 

of  the  former  Lititrgi^  as  both  agreeable  to  Gods  IVord^ 

athl  the  Primitive  Church.  And  firft  you  charge  the 

.^rag.ni.    i)0ftor  wica  borrowing  (')  that  paifage  from  father 

VarfoMs  three  Cower/ions*  Whether  it  bee  in  father 

r.i)jonsy  the  DcnTtor  knowes  nor.  Bur  whether  ic  bee 

or  not.  that  comes  all  to  one,  as  long  as  it  is  fo  delive 

red  in  the  ACt  of  Parliament.  Then  for  the  AH  it 

OOpagjo.    felfc,  (u)youanf\ver,  that  whereas  fame  fevfua//  per* 

fous^and.rcfrdctorie  Papiits,  bad  forbornt  to  repaire  to 

the  P.irifli-Churchcs  upon  the  ejtablijiwicnt  of  the  Kn- 

glifli  Scrvice?//j«  Parliament  doth  in  the  Preamble  tell 

the  offender  Jitgaittftthuncw  lav/  ,  iktit  praiers  in  the 

mother-tongue  if  n#  invention  of  'theirs^  as  the  Priefls 

rfouldwakgthew  bekcve^  but  the  dottrin;  of  the  Word 

of  GQ^H^  the  practice  of  the  Primitive  Church  :v:ed- 

ling  no  fart  her  with  the  Licurf^ie  in  thispjrt  of  the  ~Att^ 

thanasititiisafcrvict  in  the  mother-  tongue,  and  no 

more  than  fo.  I  have  been  tolds  it  was  a  faying  of  my 


Windsor  '5had  the  molt  excellent  arts  of  creeping  out  of 
the  Lw,  of  any  man  whofe  name  was  ever  brought  in 
Chancery.  That  Do3or?and  this  Mfaifler9  are  much  of 
the  fame  quality  5  our  Mitiiftr  being  as  expert  in  cree 
ping  out  of^fft  jntborityjs  ever  was  that  D'.  in  cncping 

out 


ctt t  of  the  law.   But  yet  hee  crcepcs  not  fo  away,  but  Cap. 4.' 
a  manraay  catch  him :  and  catch  him  fare  Wee  will 
for  all  his  cunning.   For  if  wcelookeinro  the  Aft  of 
Parliament,  wee  {lull  eafily  finde,  that  not  the  lan 
guage  onely,  but  the  order,  forme,  and  fabrick  of  the 
divine  Scrvke  before  eihbliftied,  isfaidtobee^nv- 
*bk  to  the  WordofGod^ndtkc  Primitive  C/.wf/;?which 
I  defire  you  to obfervc,  asitishere  prcfented(x)  to  (x)j.&*.Ed, 
c<  you.Whercas  (faith  the  Aft)  there  hath  beene  a  very  *' ca^  *• 
cc  godly  order  fet  forth  by  authority  of  Parliament,  for 
cc  Common  grayer  and  tdminiftration  efthe  Sacraments 
cc  to  bee  ufed  In  the  mother  tongue*,  within  this  Church 
"of England,  tgreeable  untothcll'orJofGod)  and  the 
<c  Trimltfae  Cburc/^vcry  comfortable  to  all  goodpco* 
<;plejdcfiring  to  live  in  Chrijlian  Gonverfation^  and 
<cmoil  profitable  to  the  eftate  of  this  Realme,  8cc. 
Whatthinke  you,  on  your  fecond  thoughts,  is  that 
fo  much  commended  by  the  Parliament  ?  cither  the 
very  Order  it  felfe,  ofCommoitprajer  and adminiftrati- 
offofthe  Sacrament^  or  the  being  of  it  in  \\\z*F.nglifh 
tongue.  Itcouldnotbee  the  being  of  it  inthc£«g/^S 
tongue.  For  then  the  Komijb  MtJJa'J^A  it  beene  tran- 
flated  word  for  word,  without  more  alteration  than 
the  language  onely,  might  have  beene  alfo  faidto  -bee 
agreeable  to  the  WordofGod^  and  the  Prim  five  Church  ; 
which  I  am  fure  you  will  not  fay.  And  therefore  it 
muft  bee  the  whole  for  we  and  order,  that  godly  or  der^ 
as  they  callit,ofC<M*/7/0#  prajerznd  adminiftration  of 
the  Sacraments,  tobeeufcd  in  the  Englifi  /0/*g/<r  (take 
them  both  together)  which  they  focommendcd.  Com 
pare  this  teftimony  of  the  Parliament    .with  that 
before  given  of  it  by  the  King  $  and  fee  if  they  affirme 
it  of  the  language  3  or  of  the  order  of  the  fcrvicc.  The 

King 


(126) 
Scvft.  I.     Kinp.  affirmed  that  it  was  Iroitght  unto 

iChrift  left  it  jhe  Cobles  H fed  it  .><tBd  the  kolj  Fathers 
delivered  it:  the  Parliament  ,  that  ic  was  agreeable  t o 
the  Word  of  God  { including  Chrifi  and  the  Apofllej) 
and  to  the  Pr*'«/V/wC/;//rr/jjincluding  the  holy  Fathers. 
Nor  did  the  Parliament  alone  vouchfafe  this  teftimo- 
nie  of  the  fiiftLiturgie.  Arcbbifhop  Bancroft  fpcak- 
(y)page.i3.  ing  of  it  in  his  (y)  Sermon  preached  ac  S.P^///r  Crpjfi^ 
/*/;.  1588.  affirmes  that  ic  was  publimed  ruft  with  fuck 
approbation,  as  that  it  was  accounted  the  rcork$  of  God. 
Bcfides ,  John  Fox  ,  (*)  whofe  teftimonie  1  am  furc 
and  yOU  win  noc  refufe,(chough  you  corrupt  him  toe  if 
Lee  come  in  your  way)  hath  told  us  of  the  Compilers 
"  of  that  Liturgie,  firft  that  they  were  commanded  by 
cc  the  King  to  have  as  well  an  eye  and  refpeft  unto  the 
ccmoftfincereand  pnre  Chriftian  religion,  taught  by 
*i:  the  holy  Scriptures,  as  alfo  to  the  ufaj'.cs  of  the 
'*  I'riwi/n'e  t.hnnh)  and  to  draw  up  one  convcnimc 
<(>  and  meet  0/Y/er,  rite  and  fafliion  of  c  or/ituon prayer, 
*cand  Admlnlfrgtto»  0//fo&/w«r£0//,cobehadand 
cc  ufed  within  the  Ixealme  of  England,  and  theDomi- 
"nionsofrhe  fame.  And  then  hceaddes  de  proprio^ 
cc  as  liis  own  opinion ,  that  through  the  ayd  of  the  holy 
c<  Ghojt)  and  with  one  uniforme  agreement,  they  did 
<c  conclude,  fee  forth,  and  deliver  to  rhe  King  a  booke 
"  in  £#£///Z>,  entituled,  A  book$  of  the  Common  prayer^ 
&c.  Thisasic  fheweshis  judgement  of  ihe  aforefaid 
.JJturgie.,  fo  doth  it  very  fully  explaine  the  meaning 
of  the  Ait  of  Yarlumtnl  ^  and  that  it  did  not,  as  you 
fay,  relate  unto  the  language  onely,  but  the  whole 
order  *  rice,  and  fafliion,  of  the  Lommw  grayer 
jjooke. 

Thus  have  wee  fccne  the  alteration  of  tic  Ixtnrgh^ 

and 


and  by  that  alteration,  a  change  of  Altars  into  Tables^  •  Cap.  4 
for  the  holy  Sacrament.  The  next  inquiry  to  he  made, 
is,how  the  Table  flood,  and  how  theycalledic  ^  and 
that  as  well  upon  the  taking  down  of  Altars,.  An.  1550. 
in  fome  places,  by  the  Kings  o\me  Order  ^  as  on  the 
gencr.ilNremovall  of  them,  by  the  fccond  Ltfurgit. 
Firft  for  the  placing  of  theT<//>/*,your  owne  Author 
telsyoa,  (*)  that  on  occafion Cc  of  taking  downe  the  (*)  Afo  and 
"Altars  ,   here  arofe  a  great  diverfity  about  the  Mon-Palt'i- 
e:  forme  of  the  Lords  hoard:  fome  nfing  ic  after  the 
<:  forme  of  a  Table  ^  and  fome  of  an  Altar.   But  finally 
ec  it  was  fo  ordered  by  the  Bifliop  of 'London  (itidtej) 
ec  that  hee  appointed  the  forme  of  a  right  Table^o  be 
et  ufed  in  all  his  Dioceffe :  himfelfe  encouraging  them 
f c  unto  i%  by  breaking  downe  the  wall  ftanding  then 
Ce  by  the  high  Altar  fide,  in  the  Cathedrall  of  S.P,/;//. 
But  th.ic  it  wasfo  ordered  in  </'/  other  Dhtrrfcj  ,  the 
Doctor  fnidcs  not  any  where,  but  in  the  »nv  Fjitiott 
of  the  Biihops  letter,  which  you  have  falfified  ofpur- 
pofe  to  make  it  fay  fo ,  as  before  was  noted.  Nor 
did  the  old  Edition  fay,  that  they  rhc  other  Diecefes^ 
agreed  at  all  upon  Me  forwt  and  fijhiov  of  their  7>- 
bles\  though  they  agreed  ,  as  you  would  have  ir,  on 
the  thing  it  felle.  And  therefore  you  have  now  put  in  • 
thefe  words,  fo  foone,  which  tells  another  tale, than 
before  was  told :  as  if  all  Diocefes  having  agreed  as 
well  as  London^  on  receiving  Tables  .,  did  agree  too, 
butnotj^cwr  upon  the  fajbfa/i  of  their  Tables.  For 
that  it  was  not  thus  in  all  other  places,  your  owne 
Miles  Hvggard  tells  (b)  you  ^  and  to  him  I  fend  you  (b)pag.48.</ 
toobferve  it.  But  this  dizerpty^}  fay  you,  was.//-  t'-thtyTabic. 
ledty  the  Rubrick,  confrtnedby  /^n\What  univcrfally?  (c/lbj<  *'**' 
There  is  no  queftion  but  youmeane-it  3  or  to  what 

purpofe 


Sccfl.  li  purpofc  do  you  fay  fo?  Yet  in  another  place  you  tell 
us,  tint  notwithftanding  thcfaid/l«£r/r^,thc7*£/*/ 
Aoodlikc  Altars  m  ^athedrall  Churches;  infome  of 
them  at  leaft,  which  had  no  priviledge  5 1  am  fure, 

(d;pag.t3j.  more  than  others  had.  For;thus  hyyouj^lnfome 
of  the  Cathedrals,  where  the  fteps  were  not  tranfyofed 
intzniQofthc  g^eene,  and  the  watt  on  the  bad^jide  of 
the  Altar  uutaken  dortm ,  the  Table  wight  Ji  an  4  all 
along,  as  the  Alcar  dlL  If  it  did  ftand  in  fomc,  ic  might 
ftand  in  all ;  and  if  in  the  (.athcdraHs,  then  alfo  in  fa- 
rochhlJ  Ghurchcsj  unleffe  you  fliew  us  by  what  means 
they  procured  that  might  3  which  could  not  bee  attai 
ned  unto  by  any  others.  Wee  findc  it  alfo  in  the  letter 

(c)  tctl  from     (-.^  c|lac  onely  to  mak$  ufe  of  their  covers^  front  s^and  t~ 

to  Altar,  f.?it  ^erornamnt^  tnc  Tables  flight  be  placed  Infome  of 
the  Chappels,  and  Cati>cdrals,  of  the  fame  length  and 
fifttiinthttt  the  Altars  rrere  eft  Why  might  not  then 
the  fame  bee  done  in  the  Fitrifh-Chitrclxs  which  were 
provided  at  that  time,  of  covert^  f rent f^  and  other  or* 
n<iMentf  of  that  nature.  ( ()  Your  felfe  concludes  it  for 
a  foolifh  drcame^  that  the  State  JlwuUcaft  arvjythofc 
rich  furnitures  ofthe  Chappcll,  provided  for  the  for 
mer  Altars :,  and  fureitis  as  much  a  dreamt  that  they 
fhould  caft  away  their  ornaments  ofthe  felfc  fame  na 
ture  out  of  Country  Churches.  And  this  I  am  the  ra 
ther  induced  to  thinkej  becaufe  that  in  the  Statute 

(g)  x.Elit.v.  i E//zA(») wherein  the  ConMw*'$r*)*9  booke  now  in 
force,was  confirmed  and  rarificdjit  was  enafted,60  That 
cc  all  CuchorffawfvtJ  of  the  Church  fhall  bee  retained, 
cc  and  bee  in  ufe,  as  was  in  the  Church  of  England  by 
*c  the  authority  of  Parihment,in  the  ^.  of  King  Edrv.6. 
C€untill  other  order  fliould  therein  bee  taken  by  the 
<c authority  ofthe  Qiicene58cc.  Which  makesic  plaine 

in 


in  my  opinion,  thatin  the  lattcrcndof  King  E<Jtv.  the 
(Ixt,  there  had  becnc  nothing  altered  in  the  point  of 
the  Churches  Ornament  s^  nor  confcquently  in  the  pla* 
ingof  the  My  table. 

Then  for  the  name  3  it  feemes  they  ftood  as  li'.tlc 
upon  that,  as  upon  the  former.  When  the  oM  Alljrs 
ilcod3  they  called  them  Tables  ^  and  when  the  7V£/*f 

were  fee  np.  they  called  them  Altars  Your  Audit  r  (!l) 

lit  /I  cf         i      f  n  i      /     /  . 

could  have  told  you  eeat  the  nrft,  that  the  boottof  j,700. 

*-* Common  grayer  callcth  tlie  thing  whereupon  the 
"  Lords  Supper  is  miniftred,  indifferently  a  T,/£/<?5  an 
<c  Altar^  or  the  Lords  boot  d^  without  prefcripdon  ofa- 
cc  ny  forme  thereof,  either  of  a  Tab!e>  or  of  an  Altar. 
ccForasitcallethitan  Altar ^  whereupon  the  Lords 
"  Supper  is  miniftred,  a  Table  and  the  Lords  boorJ-fo  it 
cc  calleth  the  Table.,  where  the  holy  Communion  is  di- 
"  ftributed  with  laud  and  th.inkf^ivin^  unto  the  Lord, 
Ci  an  Alttr  \  for  that  there  is  offered  the  fame  faaifiee 
"  of  praife  and  thankefgiviog.  So  when  the  Litnrgie 
was  altered,  and  die  word  Altar  quire  left  out:  they 
fparcdnot?asoccafionwas,tocallthc/'0^/<*'//eby  the 
name  of  Altar.   Thcblcficd  Sacrament  it  felfe,  they 
thought  no  facriledge  tointitleby  the  n;imeof.9</rr/- 
inettt  of  the  Altar :  fodi  Ithe  Mjrt\rs,  fomc  c,f  »liem, 
in  Qu.  MitrJes  time  ^  and  the  whole  body  of  the  Scare, 
in  Parliament,  z.  E/tz.  as  was  fl-jewcd  before.  Old  Fa 
ther  Latiwer  fpcakes  pofitivcly,  tkat  it  MA)  be  c<i!!eJ  av 
Altar ;  though  you3  in  rhe  repeating  of  his  words, 
have  flipped  afide  that  palfage  ,  and  nude  him  calt 
the  common  calling  of  itfo?(')  upon  the  Dothny  0)  \iti^ 
who  might  bee  mtyakgtt*  Yea  and  loin  Fox  liimfclfe  f'97' 
hath  told  you  (k)  in  a  marginall  note,  the  Tall**  how  ^J^^ 
it  way  bee  called  an  Altar,  and  in  rrhat  rcj^ctf.  The  j,.700. 

L 


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HaJdcr. 


r<])  De culm 
Dckxtcm.I.- 


no  other  then,  than  wee  finde  it  now : 
and  yet  we  doe  not  finde,  that  any  thought  themfelves 
fo  tycd  tothc  words  thereof,  as  to  ufe  no  other.  Yet 
thh  Lp\  (.fled  u^on  the  Vicar,  The  Church  in  her  Litiir- 
gie  an. I  Canons  calling  the  fame  a  Table  ontly^doe  not 
you  call  it  an  Altar,  (')fo  the  old  edition  :  doe  not  you 
KOJVJ  under  the  rcjortualion ,  call  it  dn  Altar  :  (ni)  (b 
faidi  the  new.  Vndcr  the  Reformation  ?  and  why  fo? 
Oncly  to  make  poorc  men  bclc.eve  9  that  «^^//</r/3 
and  the  Reftrraatroffy  cannot  ftand  together.  But  you 
arc  out  in  that,  as  in  all  the  reft.  The  writer  of  the 
lertcr  cannot  but  acknowledge,  (n)  that  the  Altars  doe 
flandjiillintht  Lutherane  Churches^attdthattheslpo* 
to^ie  fir  the  Air^ufhne  Confcffion  doth  allow  it:  the 
DoAorsand  Divines  whereof,  he  dor  h  acknowledge 
;il fo  to  bee  ("^  found  Prolejlants  ,  attlwitgbthey  fttffcr 
All  arsto  Jtunil.  And  in  thole  other  C  hurt  has  of  the 
Re forw.tt ion i  fome  oPthc  chicfe  Divines  are  farrc 
more  moderate  in  this  point,than  you  wifli  hey  were. 
Ocro/t/ff/pttd/w^fydoth  allow  the  Eucharrji  to  be  called 
the  Sacrawent  of  the  Altar  :  affirming  alfo,  that  for 
ptaetfitkc  the)  would  not  abhor  from  the  title  of  facri- 
fice,  //"  there  were  no  deceit  clofely  carried  under  it  : 
and  that  there  is  no  karm^  in  calling  the  Lords  Table 
by  the  name  of  Altar.  Zanchie  (<f)  more  fully,  (Quod 
ntqite  chriflMf^  n:qut  Apoftoli  prohibne>un:  itltariajiut 
watt Jariint  quod ixcnfis  I'rgueis  iifjnt ur\  That  neither 
Chrzjt  nor  his  ^/v?///tvluve  prc;hil>itcd /^/^rj.  oren- 
joyned  wooden  Tables^  and  therefore  that  itistobe 
accounted  a  matter  of  indiffcrencic  ,  whether  weufe 


iO)  fotrnt  no  fuperftitioD  be  conceived  of  either. 
Nay  F.eza;  though  more  zealous  than  the  other  tv/o5 
•»  dcoi* 


^JfcL-. . 

('30 

dchieth  not  but  that  the  Supper  of  the  Lord  may  well  Cap* 
enough  bee  celebrated  upon  an  Altttr ;  Sednon  repug- 
ttoquift  ctena  Domini  in  Alt  an  celtbrari  pojfit :  which 
words  you  give  us  in  your  margin,  p,  146.  but  dare  not 
Ettglift  them  for  feare  to  offend  weake  brethren.  So 
they  determine  of  the  point  5  not  doubting,  as  ic 
feemes,  but  that  irmighr  bee  lawfull  »0ir,  tinder  the 
Reformation^  to  call  the  holy  Table  by  the  name  of  Al 
tar:  and  which  makes  more  a^ainft  your  meaning  3  to 
ufean  Altarzlh  In  the  miniftracion.  Whieh  faic!5l 
bid  adieu  to  £»(g/rf«4an^tnePra^ce^erc  '•>  meaning 
to  looke  abroad  into  torraine  parts  in  the  reft  that 
followeth  $  where  wee  will  labour  to  finde  out  what 
was  the  ancient  doftrinc  in  the  Church  of  Cod , 
concerning  Sacrifices^  Vriefts,  and  Altars '5  and  wh.ac 
the  ufage  in  this  point  of  placing  \htComm:tnion  table* 
Yet  fo  that  wee  will  caftan  eye,  fometimes,  and  as 
occafion  is,  on  our  ownedcare  Mother,  the  Church 
we  may  fee  howneere  fhe comes  both 
andher  practice  .>  to  the  aucient  Pat 
terns,  And  we  will  fee  withall,  what  yon  have  to  f  jy  ^ 
and  what  it  is  whereof  you  purpofe  to  arraigne  the 
poore  man  you  wot  of,  in  all  thofe  particulars. 


S  EOT.  II, 


Setf.  2. 


SECTION     II, 


CHAP.  V. 

What  was  the  ancient  Dodtrinc  of  the  Church 
concerning  Sacrifices  9  Triefts  and  4ltars:and 
what  the  Doctrine  of  this  Church  in  thofe 
particulars. 

That  Sacrifices,  Pt  icft*,  and  Alcar?,  were  from  the  bediming , 
l>j  the  light  ofn.nare ,  and  that  not  ontlj  amongst  the  Pacri- 
archs  ,  hnt  among?!  th:  Gentiles.  That  in  the  Chrifti.m 
Church  thirds  a  Sacrifice,  Pricrts  ,  *nd  Altars  ,  andthtfc 
bothi-'-ftittttcd  and e.vpreffedinthe holy  Gofyell.Thf  li'yde* 
livcrcd  L>j  Dionyfius  ,  igiutiuj,  luftin  Martyr ,  and  in 
the  f'.iNPHsof  the  Apoftlcs.  axV/ ,?//i7^Tcrtullian,Ircna:uJ, 
Origcn,  and  S.  Cyprian.  How  ihe  Apologecicks  of  thofe 
ttmrsare  to  it  interpreted  ,  in  their  dcnitHof  Altars  in  the 
Chnfti.vi  £hnrch.  Minutius  Foclix  falfifitd  by  the  Miniftcr 
of  "Line.  Wh«t  were  the  Sacrifices  which  the  A.'iWApoIogc* 
ticks  did  fliny  to  is  in  the  Church  of  Chrilt.  The  difference 
bcfwccne  myiHcall  rt»</ fptrituall  Sacrifices. ^.Ambrofc/^//?- 
ficdby  f/j^Miniftcro/ Line,  in  the  point  of  Sacrifice.  Tin 
D  otlrwe  of  the  Sacrifice  delivtrcdiy  Eufcbius  :  The  Do. 


*  jBfifaitiljMtriirti  •    fT 

('33) 

flrintoftkif«U9*lt:gP*thertt  of  Sacrifice,  Piietti,  **d  Cap, 
Altars :  W/M/  u  tht  Dottrwf  of  thu  Church ,  tfudiujttLc 


and  the  Sacrifice.  Thejadgement  in  thffipotntf, 
andin  that  of  Alcirs,  of  B*  Andrcwes,  K,  lames,  B.  Moiu 
nd  B»  Morion. 

T  is  the  obfervation  of  £///£/;/«*»,  that  the 
Fathers  which  preceded  Mofes ,  and  were  ur/'i-ivang" 
quite  ignorant  of  his  Law  ,  difpofed  their  1.7-c*. 
wayes  according  to  a  voluntary  kiude  of 

their  lives  and  actions  according  to  the  law  of  Nature , 
which  words  relate  not  onely  unto  their  morall  con- 
vcrfation,  as  good  men,  but  to  their  carriage  in  re  peel: 
of  Gods  publick  worfhip,  as  religious  men.  The  light 
of  nature  could  informc  them  that  there  was  a  God, 
had  not  their  Parents,  from  the  firft  man  Adam.,  beene 
carefulltoinftruft  them  in  that  part  of  knowledge: 
and  the  fame  light  of  nature  did  mforme  them  alfo, 
that  God  was  to  bee  worshipped  by  them  j  that  there 
wcrefome  particular  fervices  expected  of  him  fiom 
his  Creature.  Of  thefe,  the  firft  wee  meet  with,  upon 
record,  is  that  of  Sacrifice  $  almoft  co-a?vall  with  the 
world.  For  we  are  told  otCaia  and  Altl^  the ;  wo  fors 
of  Adam  b  ,  that  the  one  of  them  being  a  tilkr  ofthr 
ground^  brought  of  the  fruit  of  the  ground  an  offering 
tffitothe  Lord:  the  other,being  a  keeper  ofjhtfpjbrongkt 
of  the  firftlings  ofhttflocfy^aydthefat  tkereflf.lhis  was, 
k  fccmes,  the  quit-rent:  which  they  paid  to  Almighty 
God,  thatfuprerneLord^of  and  by  whom  they  held 
their  ternporall  fortunes  ^  and  from  whofe  hands  they 
were  to  looke  for  a  more  excellent  eftate.  c  Lexr.atn- 
ralte  <fquuM  e$e  docult ,  ///  de  dortisfu-if  honoretur  im- 
dedit  :  Naturall  reafon,  faith  Rupert u*^ 
L  3  toH 


Soft.  2 


.a;ca^- 


('34) 

told  them  it  was  fit  tbit  Cod  the  Donour  flbould  bee 
honoured  with  fome  pa  t  of  that ,  which  hee  himfelfe 
had  given  unto  them.  Thusinthofe  early  dayesbavc 
vcc  found  a  Sacrifct\  and  Sacrifices)  as  you  fay  your 
felfc.arc  nor  to  be  found  wrhouc  Triefts  and  Altars.lt 
is  true,  we  doe  not  reade  in  Scripture  of  any  Altar^  till 
chat  built  by  NW^norof.any  Pricft ,  before  Melchife» 

of  MclfkffeJcc  it  is  faid ,  that  hee  was  the  Pricft  of  the 
t/jyft  high  God)  Gen.  1 4.  Not  that  there  were  no  Altars 
,  nor  no  Pricfls  before.  For  ho wfoever  PtreriiM  d  makes 
it  doubtfall  j  whether  the  ufe  of  Altars  was  before  or 
not,  Anautcmfotrit  nfai  AltarwtnjtecntjnrertHtn  eft  : 
yctca  good  friend  of  yours,  whofe  Traftat  de  Altari" 
lus  &  Sacrifices j  you  make  good  ufe  of  (though  you 
fcorneto  tell  by  whom  you  profit)  is  more  affured 
that  they  were  in  ufe  from  the  firft  beginning.  For 
fpeakjng  of  the  Sacrifices  of  Cain  and  Abef^Q  dctcrmi- 
nerh  thus f.  Adktc  Cacrificia  ara*  extrutfaf  confentant- 

J  J  »  J 

vff?  eft ,  that  i:  is  very  JikeJy  that  Altars  were  ere 
cted  for  them.  Then  for  the  P/vV/?,  we  need  not  take 
muchpainesto  fcekehim,  The  Office  of  the  Yrieft- 
£,  v.^iifon  of  hood  <£'  was  then  in  AJjm>  and  held  by  him  cntirely,till 
Srth  came  of  age,  to  take  parr  of  the  burden  from 
him :  thr.ulignitie  continuing  always  after  in  the  Pa- 
ttr-pmilras.,  rhe  eldeftoftheline  or  family,  tiUrbe  J>- 
r"'iV</-'/Priefthood  was  let  up  by  Mofts.  An  evidence 
whereof  wee  hive  ia  Noah^  who  though  hee  was  in 
ycares.andtlurhisfonnes  were  young  and  luftie^did 
*  yet  difcharge  th  ?  Vricftlj  funftion  ;  JlitiUing  an  Altar 
in  the  Lord ',  ana  offering  burnt  Offerings  on  the  Altar. 
Wnich  facrifice  of  his  was  Ettchariftifatt^  not  typicall : 
a  facrifice  of  praifc  and  thankf^iving  for  his  preferva- 

tion 


.. *.«;. 


• 

C'35) 

lion  from  the  Flood  $  not  any  way  fignificatfre  of  Cap.  5, 
tkrlfs  to  come.  And  therfore  Scalfger  •  doth  very  tru-     f  cg,  Emeo 
ly  tell  us  of  him,  that  prefcntly  as  foon  as  he  came  out  ceirp.lib.f. 
of  the  Arkc,  wnf«t&»  ec/^opirapi*  iaunolavlt  Deo: 
which  (faith  Rvpertuf)  Hoa  fcripta,  fed  natural*  lex 
tquitm  (jft  docuit  9  was  not  commended  to  him  by  a 
written  law,  butmeerly  by  the  law  of  Nature.  Such 
evidence  wcalfohave  in  the  ftoiy  of  Mfr/r/7/r  <;'«•,  who 
being  the  eldeft  of  iiis  line  (and  commorly  received 
for  Sem^t\\t  fonnc  of  N0//>)is  ftiled  kat  the  encounter  ('  ;  CM.  14.11. 
bet  wee  ne  him  md  Abraham  ,  //><?  Trieftof  the  moft  high 
Cod^  before  was  faid  :bein^a]fo  there  reported  to  be 
King  of  Salem.  And  thus  it  alfo  was  ,  cirher  by  imita 
tion  or  tradition,  amongft  the  Gentiles.  Their  Prin  ei 
being  Yatres  ?sfri<e  ,  and   confequently  in  loco  fa- 
trum-familiu  ,  the  Grand  fathers  of  all  families  in 
their  Dominions,  did  alfo  cxercife  the  Priefls  Of. 
ficein  rheir  folcmne  Sacrifices.  Itthro  the  father-in- 
Jaw  of  Moftt  ,  who  l  in  the  Text  is  called  the  Priefl 
,  is  in  the  Margine  of  our  Bibles  ,  called  the 


f>/7/KY.And  JntMm\n  the  Poec,is  fet  out  for  boch,K<r.v 


*  R  x  idem  bominum^  rkcebiquc  Saardos. 
After  when  as  the  houfeof  lacw  v/.»s  growne  great 
and  numerous  ,  andfctled  by  the  Lord  hin'fclfe  into 
the  body  of  a  Church  ;  it  pleafcd  the  Lord  to  fignific 
by  Mofes  how  hee  would  be  worfhipped  :  ro  prefcribe 
certainc  Rites  and  formes  of  fafrifices  ,  and  for  thofc 
facrifices  to  appoint  both  Priefl  s  and  Altars.  Thefe 
facrifices  were  divided  into  Ei/^tfinxxj  or  gratulato- 
r;V5fuch  as  was  that  ofaoah  before  rcmcm!»red^nd  cx- 
piatoric,©r  ,'Act9-jx,x3  which  did  relate  to  Cbrifl  our  Sa 
viour,  as  cypcs  of  that  moft  perfedl  exfiattfy  ficrifce  , 
which  in  the  fulnefle  of  time  hee  was  to  offer  ou  the 

L  4  Croflc, 


1 1 .  Crofie,  for  the  (in  of  nun.  Which  pra!Kce  of  the 

abftra&ed  from  the  end  to  which  by  God  it  was  in 
tended  ,  was  generally  in  ufe  alfo  with  the  Gcxttilcs  : 
whether  delivered  to  them  by  tradition  from  their 
prcdeccflburSjOrthatitwas  adyingfparkeofthe  light 
of  Nature,  or  that  they  tooke  it  from  the  tines,  whofe 
Apes  they  were,  needs  not  now  be  queftioncd.  Suffice 
it,  that  however  they  could  not  reach  the  height  of 
the  true  Religion,  nor  knew  not  the  intent  of  thofe 
frequent  facrifces^  which  were  impofcd  upon   the 
Icrres  ^  yet  they  would  corneas  neare  hyis  they  could. 
And  therefore  as  they  had  their  facrtjices  ^  fo  would 
they  alfo  have  their  Temples  y  their  Prje/fj.znd  Altan  : 
places  fclctfed  for  divine  worfliip,   and  Minifters  ap 
pointed  for  thofe  places  ,  anddtfars  upon  which  to 
imniftcr,  being  of  Jikc  aMciqiwic.  The  fcvcrall  gods' 
in  K<?w.%thc  Temflcj  unto  them  belonging,  the  Altars 
in  thofe  Temples,  andColJed^es  of  Prirjlj  attending 
on  thofe  A'.tars^ic  things  fo  generally  knowne  5  that 
it  were  loffe  of  time  to  infift  upon  them. 'The  like 
niay  alfo  be  obfervcd  in  all  other  places ,  and  ofall  J- 
Jols  whatfoevcr.  For  whatfoever  the  Ids',  rcprefen- 
tcd,andby  whomfoeveritwas  wordiippcdj  ifit  were 
once  letup  .wd  honoured  as  a  Dcicie,  it  drew  along 
widiit  all  thofe  necefTary  attendants,  which  were  by 
God himfelfe  thought  fit  to  wait  upon  the  true  reli 
gion.  TIieC7/wc/  Andhi&h  pfacej ,  the  Pri'fts  and  Al 
tars  defUnatedto  the  fervicc  of  that  faille  iJol  EaaL 
mentioned  in  the  holy  Scriptures,\\  ere  proofe  enough 
of  chiSjWere  there  no  proofe  elfe.  But  thefe  things  be- 

'-"-^  n()-^0>''13  n  T'^l>ft  "f  M°  ?£C(t"t  '•>  I  Pa^e  them  over 
\vrirh  this  note :  that  there  wns  never  any  Nation  3  but 
Li.l  foaic  religion3ncr  any  religion  (of  men  civilized) 

but 


Cn*Pa:crc.Hifi 


('37) 

but  had  Altars,  Priefls  and  Sacrifice^  as  a  part  thereof,  Cap.  5, 
or  as  dependmts  thereupon.  Which  matuall  agree 
ment  bctweene  lev  and  Gentile  in  thofe  outward 
things,  although  not  in  the  end  propofed :  made  them 
both  feverally  pcrfecure  and  deride  the  Chriflians ,  as 
men  of  no  religion,  having  (as  they  conceived)  no 
Temples,  Ait 'an •,  Pr/f/?/3nor  Sacrifices'^  fo  by  con.- 
fequence  no  God. 

For  when  our  blefied  Lord  and  Saviour  had  by  that 
one  offering  of  himfelfe  once  for  all)*perfe&ej  for  (o)H?fr. 9.  t». 
cvtr  aU  tlrm  that  are.  fentt/fcd^  and  by  his  0ir*e  blood  & I0t  **'• 
entrcd  into  the  hot j  place ,  and  obtained  et email  redemp 
tion  for  us :  there  was  forthwith  an  end  of  all  thofe  fa- 
crifices  in  the  Law, by  which  this  one  of  his  had  becne 
|ircfi^ured.  They  had  becne  onely  given  f  in  uwbra^ 
tea  jbitdarr  of  the  things  fo  cowc  :  but  when  the  body 
came  it  felfe^thc  fhadow  wus  unfcrviceable.and  forth 
with  vaniflied.  Yet  did  not  Chrift  deprive  his  Church 
for  ever  of  all  manner  of  Sacrifices.,  but  oncly  abro 
gated  thofe  which  had  beene before  •,  which  if  conti 
nued,  might  have  bcene  a  ftrong  prefumption  of  his 
not  comming  in  the  flefli :  in  which  refpeft,  thofe,  and 
all  other  ci  Ceremonies  of  the  /THY/, arc  by  the  Fathers 
faidtobee,  not  onely  din»erous ,  buc  deadly,  to  us 
ChrifttJtt  men.  The.Paflion  of  our  Saviour ,  as  by  the  nis.  H»<T. 
Lords  own  Ordinance  it  was  prefigured  to  the  /frr/  in  adAaZ'P' 
the  legaQ  Sacrifices ^  a  P art e  ante -^  fo  by  Chrifts  Infti- 
tution,  is  ic  to  be  commemorated  by  us  Cfjrijiiws  3  in 
the  holy  Supper ,  aPartcpoft.  A  Sacrifice  itw^sinn"- 
gUre,aS^r//fr<rin  foft^'anJ  fo  by  coafcquence,  a  Sa 
crifice  in  -he  commemorations  ,  or  upon  thc'Pffft-ftff. 
A  J?i/rr/^rechcre\VuSamo7^ihe/fn.'«5  fhewjng  forth 
Chrijis  dcarh  'urica  them  .,  t'cfjrehis  comniing  in  the 

flcfli: 


2.  (\cfl\i  &  Stfrtfot  there  muft  beeamongft  the  Ckrijli 
<f#.fjto  {\\vwforth  the  lords  death  till  he  conic  in  judgc- 
nu  nr.  And  if  a  Sacrifice  muft  bee,  there  muft  bee  alfb 
rriffts  to  doe,  and  Alters  thereupon  to  dock  :  bc- 
caufe  without  a  Prieft,  and  Altar^  there  can  bee  no  fa* 
crificerYec  fo  that  the  precedent  (acrirTce  was  of  a 
different  nacurc  from  the  fuhfccjucnt :  and  Co  arc  alfo 
both  the  Fr/V/7  and  Alt  AT  from  thole  before  .•  a  bloudy 
facrifice  then  ,  an  unbloudy,  now  \  a  Pricji  derived 
from  A^ron  t Ii en  ,'fi out  Mett l-ijt<irtb t  now  $  an  Alt>tr 
(rjtfw.n  »j,  for  AfopA'</#  facrifii'C5r!ieii/(a'/^v//^e//«/^JK'W.r  'Ihc 
»4»  »<.  Sac  i  if  ice  prtfci  il»ed  1  -y  Chriit ,  <jj^/  //^  7  tJ/4Mt'»tJ  no* 

•vam  docHtt  oblaHonem ,  fa  ith  lnti£us  /.+ .  r,  5  2.  xvho  the 
ft  me  night  iff  which  he  rrasbttrayttd^  tocl^e  bread  :  And 
rthn  he  had  given  thank*-,  ?•*  brakf.  it.andfeidpakg^at^ 
th'u  is ni) bod) \vhich  it  broI^nforyvtt.Dottlis in rtwcm- 
brtnccofm!.  LikfTvijf  aljo  he  tool^  thcCup  nhevhchjd 
pipped,  fajin&rhK  Cup  u  the  New  'ttftawcnt  iv  my  bloo^ 
doe  thn  <K  often  MJOU  drixlg  //,  in  remembrance  ofmec. 
Which  words,  if  they  exprcfle  net  plaineencuph  the 
nature  of  this  Sacrifice  9  to  be  comMtmorttrvti  we  may 
take  chofe  that  follow  byway  of  Con'mcntaiy  f:For 
M  often  as  yet  eat  this  bread,  anddrhty  thit  Cup  ,  ye  doe 
/•nr  the  Lords  death  till  he  come.  Then  for  the  Pr/rJ1/t 
they  were  appointed  by  him  alfo,  even  the  holy  Ape- 
fles\ who  being  oncly  prcfcnt  at  the/ff/?//*f /^recei 
ved  a  power  from  Chriji  to  celebrate  ihefe  holy  my- 
ftcrics  in  the  Church  of  Cod.  A  power  not  perfonall 
unto  them,  but  fuch  as  was  from  them  to  bee  derived 
upon  others  9  and  by  them  communicated  unto  o- 
thers ,  for  the  inftruclion  of  Gods  people,and  the  per 
formance  of  his  fervice.  Though  theAp^ftbr  at  that 
time  might  rcprefeot  the  Church  ofC/jrift ,  and  every 

part 


^artand  member  of  if,  yet  this  gives  no  authority  un*  Cap 
Ito  private  men,  to  intermeddle  in  the  ftcrifoc ,  but 
fcmtothe/ty>'»/7/w  oncly,  and  their  fucceifours  in  the 
Evingcttcatt  PriejihooJ.  Our  Saviour  hath  left  certamc 
marks  or  characters  5  by  which  each  member  of  the 
Church  may  foone  findc  his  durie.  For  the  /rpcftles 
and  their  fuccefibrs  in  the  Vriefihoo^  there  is  an  cJitc 
^•b'tbite^n  eating  and  a  drinking,as  private  men  5  men 
of  no  Orders  in  the  Church  :  but  there  is  an  Hoc  jacitt 
be  longing  tot  hem.  ouelyi  as  they  arc  Triejls  under, 
tndoi  ihcGofpclf,  llorftclte^  is  fortlic  Vr)efly  who 
hath  power  to  confccrarc ;  Hoc  editc^  is  both  for  Pricft 
and  people,  which  are  admitted  to  communicate  :  and 
foist  he  Hocbibite  too  by  the  Papijts  /eave.  Were  it 
notthus,  but  that  the  people  might  hoc-ftccrc  9  take 
breads  and  breake^  and  fi/fj/cit^nd  aijlribittt  ir  unto  one 
another;  wee  fhould  foone  fee  a  qulcke  come  off  of 
our  whole  rcligionrThe  people  then,  being  prepared 
and  fitted  for  it}may  tdere  and  £/$*/?,  but  they  muft  not 
facere  5  that  belongs  onely  to  the  "Pritfs9  who  claimc 
that  power  from  the  Ap9Jll«t^  on  them  conferred  by 
our  RtJcwcr.  Laft  of  all  for  the  Altar^  we  need  not 
goc  farre.  S.  fattly  in  whom  wee  finde  both  the  Pricft 
and  Sacrifice,  will  hclpe  us  to  an  Altar  alfo.  He  callcth 
it  once  a  Tablt^  and  once  an  Altar* ::a  TaMe  in  the 
tenth  of  the  fame  Epiftle  ,  non  potejtit  awsfe  Dy- 
tfffoiparthipejtffi9yic  cannot  bee  partakers  of  the 
Lords  TM^qd  rhe  t*blc  of  Devils^  an  Altar  in  the  lift 
of  the  "HcbrvctcS)  HabeMt*  Altarc^  wee  have  an  Altar 
whereof  thy  have  no  right  to  eate  that  fir  we  tbtTabtr- 
0jc!c:*n  Altar  in  relation  to  the  Sacrf/fff^hkh  is  there 
commemorated  5  a  Table  in  relation  to  the  Sacrament 
which  ii  thence  participated.  Nay,  fo  indifferent  were 

ihofc 


Sctfl:.  1 1.  il-.ofc  words  to  tliat  blcflcd  (plrlr,  thatj  as  ic feemcs,  he 

,  ftooii  not  on  the  cholceof  either :  but  ufed  the  *  vord 

•LI-*  AppT  7'c/^/P  to  denote  thofe  Alttrs  ou  which  the  Gentiles  fa* 
? :  9.  ci  iGccd  to  their  wretched  I  Jots  $  which  he  cals  mnfatn 

D£monlorum ,  the  table  of  Devils  3  in  the  Texc  re- 
mcrnbred. 

If  wee  conft.lt  the  Fathers  who  lived  next  thofe 
tim'cSjV/ce  findc  not  that  they  altered  any  thing  in  the 
prcfcnt  bufincfic ,  for  xvhlch  they  had  fo  good  autho- 
rky  from  the  Lords  '.fujllcs^  but  without  any  fcruple, 
or  oppofition  (that  wee  can  meet  with)  ufed,  as  they 
had  occafion,the  name  ofSeffifoe,  and  Priejl,  and  Al~ 
tar^\\  their  fevcrall  writings.  Not  that  they  tied  thcm- 
felvcs  tothcfe  words  aloue,  but  that  they  balked  them 
not  when  they  came  in  their  way  ,  as  if  they  were 
a^Cap.j.       afraid  to  rake  notice  of  them.  a  beajs  the  Areopa^it^ 
(if  it  were  lice  that  wrote  the  books  Je  Ecchfojlica 
llierarcbia}  hath  in  one  chapter,  all  thofe  names  of 
Prifjf ^Altrtr^  Siicrijice,  ^M^S-  ^-^oii^^pioy?  <  gtVcy<c(,5  ^  ^1$ 
native  language  5  Saccrdos^  Altare^  Sacrijiciutn ,  in  the 
tranda'ion  :  the  4ltar  being  honoured  with  rhe  attri 
bute  of  ?e7cr3  or  divine  5  the  Sacrifice  with  that  of  tzrccv* 
st,*/ur&Tv  •>   °f  moft.  pure  and  holy.    Thefe  works 
of  DloxyjiM  9  Monfieur  dn  Movli»^  dotli   acknow 
ledge  to  bee  vciy  profitable  5  ft  ilia  fane  &  flen* 
\<,.)ffir.<i'>if.     &o»<ffjrt/gff  3  but  wkhall  thinks  b  they  are  of  a  later 

r'lY-iT"  'r    ^arc'  ^nc^  ^lcrc^orc  on  unto  lgMt'W}Of  whom  there 
J3D.7,'  *IS  le(fe  queftion  amongft-lcarncd  men  :  who  in  his  fe» 

verall  Epiftlee  ufcth  the  afore- faid  nanie$  or  termes,  as 
being  generally  received,  and  of  common  ufage.  Firft 
•  Op--'  •          for  the  Altar y  the  Doctor  (hewed  you c  in  his  Codf 
it  is  found  there,  thrice  at  leaft, 


<x 


one 


(140 

one  Altar,  zndove  Mtai'toewjCfwrfhtatodrvmi.rk  Cnp'.  5 
pny  S**,  G°ds  Altwjxi  his  F.'piftlc  rf  iTarfcrtf.  \vhac  is  oV 
jcfted  againft  thefe,  wcc  Hull  P:c  hereafter.  So  for  rhc 
Mlnifter,  he  cals  him  ,'t?ey?>or  P;v«/7,  which  your  good  ^ 
friend  jWf/wtran  flares  SacerAos^ d  KaAoi^v  o<  iVc/iV, 
^  o.'  T?  A'yK  A<iw;3»^  »t«/oa»w  />« a  aW;?-k  "  Kxcellenn 
ci  (or  eftimable)are  the  Pritjts  and  Ueacons,but  niore 
cc  the  Bifliop.  la  the  Epiftle  ad  Swjrnenf's  the  fame 
%vord  occurres,  to  fignitle  the  P/vY/?,  or  Minifter  of 
CAr//?jholyGofpell :  asalfothat  of  ^ativsi,  rendrcd 
by  your  Fedcliw  Sa.rerdotiitff*9  by  us  called  the  I'rreft- 
hood.  Laft  of  all  for  the  Sacrifice.,  the  fame  Ignatius 
e  gives  ic  for  a  rule,  as  the  timesthen  were,  thacitis 
not  lawful!  for  the  Pr/Y/7,  without  the  notice  of  his  Bi- 


CC^KV9  cither  to  baptize,  oroj/er,  or  celebrate  the  (a- 

critice.  Whereby  the  way,  wee  may  perceive  how 

much  the  Gardintft  was  miltakcn,  in  that  he  tels  i:s  for 

a  certaine,  fthat  the  ApoJilcsmA  molt  ancient  Farhers  (0 -•/'?'.•;..  "c 

of  the  Church.as  ////?///  and  /?#..'//;//,  did  purpofely  ab-  Wfl'A'»*  v^ 

,-,     .          c  1  Tn    •    /•»  I     «    •    nt         I  I  C..U.tlotC>rf'i, 

ibme  from  the  names  o\  Pftejl  and  VrtcJlhooJ)  as  they  /Mtitmjtett 
di  I  alfo  from  that  ofTewpte :  wviderentitra.jhifcdi/ra-  djia.  s.-iijur 
r^  litdjid&ferc/ffottfdjeh  other vvik*  the  /<t nv'-'Z'  cereino-  [ '; ^•^•S3:l 
nies  mi^ht  be  conceived  to  be  in  force.  It  is  t:ue,  that 
for  the  moft  part3  Ignitivs  ufcth  for  the  minifter,  the 
word  rip:$^'jTe:oiJ)Or  Presbyter,  from  which  the  I'rcnch 
derived  their  Pre!>Jfrcyand  wee  thence  our  Prieft\  but 
doth  not  binde  himfelfc  unto  it.    No  more  dorh  foj^/'^ru 
litftin  Martyr  u  either:  for  having  laijrhis  for  a  rule,  Jt^iJ\vG 
that, God  accepts  noferrifces  but  from  his  own  Pr'/cffs  Zvriti  o  ^.'; 

v/*^; 


CIU4  \AiJffjf  \_ v.-iii incnii  <v_i_*  w\^   i.».k.    v.  >.  . .  •  i  .ik  >.  14  ; '  i    t'^ftim 

his 


(MO 

Scch    2.     h**  Name  :  and  arc  accordingly  performed  of  allChri- 
ftian  people  in  the  holy  Ench<irijlol  bread  and  wine. 
Per  ormed  in  every  place  by  all  Chriftian  people;as  it 
(10  cTnr?      isan  Ejr^*$f,  h  *JMi/fe  ofpraifeandthankesto  Al- 
«"5C«fs»*T»     mighty  God,  tcftificd  in  and  with  a  participation  of 
*fi**j'ii  •*>•  the  outward  elements:  but  celebrated  by  the  Priefl 
T»fw.-  /./.      efpccially,  as  it  is  a  ftcrijice  commemorative  of  the 
death  and  palfion  of  our  Lord  and  Saviour  \  who  only 
h  ive  ,i  power  to  con  fee  rate  thofe  elcmcntijwhiclidoo. 
exhibiic  thrift  unto  us.  As  for  the  Canons  of  the  Jp*. 
Jt/cs,  whichjUnot  writ  by  them,  arc  certainly  of  good 
antiqu;tie,(andforthe  firft  50  above  all  danger  of  dif- 
'  i;  iM7.          carding)thc  Doftor  tol<  1  you j  in  his  Coal  from  tie  M- 
t*r^  that  the  word  QUOIAT^OI  did  occurrc  in  the  third, 
founh,  and  fifth.  Andnowhee  tels  you  into  the  bar- 
gainc^that  in  the  third  Canon  you  fliall  finde  mention 
oftheJ2rrr{/&f,  \-sr\  T«  ?•;««,"  and  in  the  fourch:ofthe 
opltttfaB'riifafyi&siiftoo&pii  All  which  nifurance  ia 
this  caufe  will  fall,if  you'compute  the  time,within  the 
firft  loo.yeeres,  which  you  fo  much  ftand  upon,  and 
batcyou  50.  of  your  talc.  So  that  you  will  not  find, 
whatfocvcr  you  fay, k  thar  in  the  ckrijlian  Church,the 
ntmt  of  Table  is  200.  'jecrcs  more  ancient  than  the  nawt 
of  Altar  ^  both  being  of  an  equall  (landing,  for  ought  I 
can  fecund  both  ufcd  indiffcren'.ly. 

Next  thcfefucc  ceded  IrcnAHf^  of  whom  the  '  Do- 
clor  told  you,  that  he  did  prove  the  Lords  A  pottles  to 
be  /V/Y/?j,becaufe  they  did  DC  o  &  Alt  an  firvire  :  at 
tend  the  fervice  of  the  Lord,  and  wait  upon  him  at  his 
altars.  What  you  except  againft  in  this,  wee  fliall  fee 
anon.Meane  time  you  may  take  notice  here,  rhat  v/ee 
h.;ve  found  in  Irenf/iSj  both  a  Pri-Jl  and  ^Itar:  and 
thinke  you  that  he  will  not  hnde  us  a  Sacrifice  aifo  ? 

Looke 


('43) 


Lookc  on  him  but  a  little  further,  and  he  will  tell  you  Cap.  5. 
this,  that  there  were  Jacrifcia  iapoptth9facrfjiciai» 
^r/f/^facrifices  in  the  Itrrifo  Church,  and  facrificcs 
in  t'.ic  Chriftian  Church  :  and  m  that  the  kind  orient/  '(,,os«f#tt>i 
was  only  altered.  The  kinde  or  nature  of  which  C^/7-  irrmnmta  tan. 
Qfa  ijacrifoe  he  telsus  of  in  the  fame  chaptcr,27&.  that  lumibt*- c<?4< 
*it  is  an  F.Hcharifl,*  tender  of  our  gratitude  to  Almighty 
God/or  all  hisbleflmgs;andafaikftifyint',  of  the  crea 
ture  to  fpuitual  I  ufcs.  Oj/er/V/////  ei  twn  quaf  indigent^ 
fedgrat'/M  a»entes  donation!  cjas.&fontf/JicMtc*  aca- 
turam.  Inthiswehavethefevcrall  arid  diftinft  offices 
which  before  wee  fpakc  of:  a  (attftifoatio  crcjtnne^ 
a£M/>;?ofthcbreid(forn>rcadic  is  hce  fpcakcs  ofj  (n)JQi'CIva,i 

r      i      i       r         i  •   i    •     i      r\i.r         r  t       T    •  n  mcdtim   ei»>m 

for  lioly  u(cr,which  istheOiliccottnc  Vncjt^  no  man  quhditcira 
ever  doubted  it*  and  then  zgrrtiarnm  atlio^  a  giving  ranis  pcicipi- 
'  thaukes  unto  the  Lord  for  his  marvellous  benefits.  J"Jnv(Jlc*?m 
which  is  the  Office  both  of  Pricfl  and  people.  The  noncnmnmoii 
fan(ftifying  of  the  crcature,and  glorifying  of  the  Crea-  paniseft,&c. 
tor,docborh  relate  unto  Offiriwut  :  and  that  unto  the 
Sarrifres  which  arc  therein  treated  of  by  that  holy 
Father.  SoforTtf/tfifc//r,thcDoftornoted  that  hce 
telsnsoftheX//</r  twice,  Si  &  ad  Aram  DC?  ftctcris^ 
in  hij  Booke de  Orath/ie^  cap.  14.  In  that  dt  iKuitintia. 
he  rcmembrcth  us  of  thofe  that  did  aJgeaicftlart  Arts 
Dei,Sta»ding  before  the  Altar^tt  feme  tinies ;  kneding 
before  the  Altar  ^  other  times:  but  both  before  and 
at  the  Altar.  And  for  the  name  of  Pr/V/f, however  the 
Cardinall  was  of  opinion,  that  the  Apoft/esandfiift- 
fathers  of  the  Church  did  purpcfely  foi!  eare  it5  as   (o-'lamfnis 
before  was  did:  yet  he  hath  found  at  laft,  •'  tlwc  Tim-  EJS' 
fore  TertuUfani)  in  TcrittUiant  tirwe,  (the  difference  i'«3.vos& 
•betweene  Inres   and  chrzflians  being  well  euou^h  cl'"SiarJ 
knownc)  the  name  of  Prief  came  ta  lee  in  ufc ;  and  l'u'a  'i*  «'«/•  4 

'   for  " 


044) 

Sccfh  2.     f°r  tnc  prcofe  thereof  referres  us  to 

/./  W/r  virglrtibuf,  de  monogamia^  &  alibi :  And  there* 
forclhithcr  I  rcferre  you.  Origin  next  in  courfe  of 
time ,  hath  an  whole  Honrilie  on  the  is .  Chapter  of 
(?  H«  m.i  r.  ro///7//tr/.>intii  uled  r  <?V  PrJMifiJs  Offercirdjf.  It  is  not  to 
p  ictl"  'm?  ^'e  ^lou^'ut  ln  tc  '1CC  competed  that  Homllie  of  purpote 
toadv.mce  the  reputation  of  the  7<;r//7;  Yricfthood:  nor 
doth  he  c;  if  a  man  \vould  thinkc  ibs  ^ivc  nny  counte 
nance  thereunto.  And  \vhy?  Pie-ding  cxprefly  for 
the  maintenance  of  die  Minitcers  of  Gods  holy  Vv'ord, 
hee  cab  them  in  p]ainctcrniesl&/f?/v&/?,r£v</;y£i//f> 

I  o          5 

Priefts  ot  the  Cofpell,  zmtwingfirjl  fruits^  to  bee  due 
unto  them  at  the  lesft  dc  congnio.  Would  you  his  own 
words?  taker  hem  thus;  Deceteniw.  &  Htile  r/?5  e  ti- 
am  Sj'trdctiluf  F.TMgclii  (N.  B.)  ofjcrri  primittM. 
Would  you  the  re^.fon  of  it  alfo  >  cc  Becaufe  hee  faith, 
<c  the  Lord  appoiiited. that  they  \vhich  preach  the^1^- 
"$(U,  (liould  live  of  the  C7^#9  and  they  that  Mini- 
<cfteratthe  Altar,  flionld  live  of  the  Altjr.  Where  if 
you  fhouldfufpectthat  hee  doth  meane  the  In\ifi  .-ll~ 
tars,  himfelfe  fliall  take  you  rff  from  thac  fond  fufpi- 
cc  t io n .  F.t  frcut  hoc  dignum  &  dcccns  f/?9  &c.  and  as 
Ci  (faith  hee)  it  is  a  fit  and  worthy  thing  that  it  fhould 
c;befOj  foon  the  other  fide,  it  is  unworthy  and  un- 
cc  fkjifnot  utterly  impious,  thac  hee  which  honoureth 
cc  Gcd,  and  comes  into  his  Church,  Et  fcit  S.icerdottt 
c*  &M//irjtroj  j'//r'(!cre  Alt  an  ^  and  knoweth  that  .the 
c<  Prittffind  Whtrftcrs  cloe  \vait  upon  the  ''//^r^'Aand 
.voboudtwc  tc  labour  in  the  Word  and  Miniftcrie,  foould  ncc  de- 
n'in:(iai«>  LC-  «  Votc  untoliim  the  fir  ft  fruits  of  the  land  wherewith 
r^tei??*1"  cCCod  hath  blcHcd  him.  Jn  the  \vhole  drifc  of  thac 
which  followeth,  hte  drives  fo  clearly  ar-  this  point, 
that  it  is  needletfe  in  a  manner  tolooke  for  more  5  yec 

in 


('45) 

in  Ms  tenth  Homilic  on  the  ninth  of  lojlw*  he  is  mora      Cap.  5. 

particular  and  exadt^than  before  he  was:  For  fpeaking 

of  fomeperfons  who  were  meerc  oHt-fidt  wcn^-mA  no 

more  than  fo,  he  thus  defcribes  them  5  viz.  rCC  That 

"they  came  diligently  to  the  Church,  and  nndedue 

*e  reverence  :o  the  Pr/ejts, attended  all  Divine  offices, 

"  honoured  the  fervants  of  the  Lord,  Adorujtumfiiio*  pu'f"u;"sa 

,,  A  i       •          i  f     i  r       i-      -  j         r  i   _i-  i   ccvu»tibut, 

cc  qiic  Altans  vet  Eccleji<e  altqiita  c onfcrant  3  and  did 
"contribute  fomewhan  alfo  to  the  ornament  of  the 
ec  Altar  or  :hc  Church.  I  hope  there's  proofeeno'igh 
for  Pricfts  and  Altars,  and  fomevvhat  alfo  for  the 
rnainrenance  of  thofe  Pricffs  that  waited  at  the  /*/- 
/^r/.(inthc  dmc  of  Qrfatn.  Nor  will  I  inltance  fur 
ther  in  the  Fathers  of  tiicfe  Priniinve  times,  thanS. 
Cyprian  onlyrand  in  him  only  in  rhofc  places  to  which 
you  were  dircfted  in  che  Coalfnw  ilx  iltar^  f  where 
you  wcrctold,that  /. i.c.j-  in  the  Epiftle  a^Epi^ttitfft^ 
the  Lords  Table  was  called  Alt  are  Dii,  Gods  Altar : 
and  that  there  fomcwhat  more  occurred  concerning 
Mtar:  in  the  s.and  p.Epiftle  of  the  fame  book  alfo.On- 
ly  I  cannot  chuie  but  tell  you,that  in  the  laft  of  thofc 
remembred,we  have  not  found  an  /J/A//  only,  but  that: 
there  is  a  Sacrifice  and  a  Prieft  to  bee  found  there  alfo. 
For  there  we  have  a  maxime c  concerning  thofe  which 
are  promoted  to  the  holy  Pricftkood,zn<\  in  aftuall  Or- 

11          i  i  i«»        •  .?    r       *n  ••       i  r       -      Ccrdotionti- 

ders/bat  they  ought  only  Alt  An  &  faftjlcns  aejervt'  noratitl6.«. 
re,  to  attend  the  Altar  and  i\ic  fart/tees ,  and  be  devo-  *'p-9. 
ted  to  their  prayers  and  Ori?,ons  to  Almighty  God. 
Thrice  in  rhe  fame  Epiftle  wee  findpunc"tu.ilJ  mention 
QfSMr/fietft  Prrejlj,  and  Altars  $  enough  of  confJcncc 
to  declare  what  was  the  ufage  of  the  Church  in  S.  ty 
ians  time. 

Which  being  fo-,  a  curftion  may  bee  juftly  rn<.L', 

M  J-.ow 


CM*) 

how  it  fhould  come  to  patfe,  that  the  Apologetic^  of 
thofe  very  times  ,  fliould   fo  unanimoufly  coocurrc 
againft  the  bring  of  Altars  in  rhe  ChriJHait  Church: 
efpcc'ally  fhar  O/vgr*,  who  is  fo  much  for  i:  in  his  Ho- 
wr/7/V.r,fiioiild  In  fo  much  againft  it  in  \\viContra  °cl(*Hw. 
fu.Oiii;.!,?.      u  i.elft/f  object cd  it  a:»aiiift  rhe  Clrijttans,  Guwisiy} 
dy t/Vw-Ta.-  ^  ?  Js  i</yitf  j  v  (^ioyeivj  thac  they  declined 
chcb»ni«iir-.    or  fettin::  up  f:    'Ittirs^  Images,  and  Ti?/w- 
/)/••/.    #rrii/t*  in  rhf  dialogue  made  the  fame  objecti 
on  :  .;i»t;d  havin>!iJidnoi  Ion"  before.  'Trmyla  ut  bitjfa 
tie'\  *V///;//,rh.ir  the  (rhe  CluL't; ans)defpifcd  the  Tem 
ples  of  the  Gods  (conceive  it  fo}  as  funerall  piles; 
f v)M;n,,t.  Fe.  h  en  ikt  s  this  t^Msre  after  Gur  nitllas  arat  httbeittjempltt 
}n(i:<.*  i>.«57.  nulIa.nKll<tnota;it?tuljcra§  wlut  was  the  reafon  why 
they  had, nor  Temples,  Images,  nor  Altars:  not  why 
they  hid  no  ^/^/-joncly,  as  you  make  him  fay.  The 
,  Com,         like  i?  commonly  objected  from  isfrnoltit/f  alfo  ^  >'  NM 
Genii  c\:cA  accufatif.  quod %f-c  tcwtoLt  Ihibcumus^  rtcc  irtiiizims*  ntc 

J  *      I  t  O 

6  B  it-vtii,  to  aras :  in  which  the  words  are  changed  a  HttJe,but  not 
tittbrefem.  "  the  matter  of  the  accufition.  No\v  as  the  objections 
fecme  to  oppofe  dir'.ftly^vhat  ever  hath  been  faid  be 
fore  conccrnins;  Altars :  fo  rhe  Refpondents  anf^ers 
feeme  as  much  to  croffc  vhat  ever  hath  beenefiid 
co-icer^in^  Varrijicrs.    0  rgrtt  anfv/ers  for  his  part, 
xthat  rhe  Altar  of  a  ChrijUan  was  his  und<  ^landrnga 
r:  c-  from  whence  he  offred  ro  the  Lord  tva^/ty  0^/ct^xT«tj 
9-"  the  moftfwveet  and  pleafingfacrificesof  prayers,  and 
*'•   a  pure  confciencc.  Qffavwi  «much  to  the  fame  pur- 
J7p  pofc,  that  the  mofr  acceptable  facrifire  to  Almighty 

1^   c  ml  A  5  and  brieflv,  b  that  he  was  counted  the  moft  re- 
ju_  ligious toward?  Godjwhich  was  moft  juft  and  upright 
Mftlsmaiit  SorauchO<7,^/V//faichiijdeed;  yet  noc 

enough 





047) 

enough,  it  fcemes,  to  ferve  your  turn;  and  therefore 
you  muft  needs  corrupt  his  text  with  a  falfe  tranflati- 
on  :  making;  Oftavlu-i  fay,  that  Tfith  them  ihe  hi  tome  of 
the  heart  frpp/ief  the  Altar.  Whereas  yon  findc  noc 
fuch  a  word  in  all  that  period  of  Litaj;'tljs  haftta,  before 
remembred:  no  Altar  there  3  but  chat  you  have  nor 
bonum  animitm^  nor  \>nram  mwtem^  no  nor  pnctratx 
fenfcientiam  neither  5  in  thefe  wretched  fhifts.  And 
laftofall,  Arnobittt  being  asked  the  qneftion,  whe 
ther  the  Chriftians  thought^Sacrifoia  nulla  ejje  omnl- 
nofacienJa,  that  there  was  no  fuch  thing  as  iacrifice 
to  bee  done  at  all  $  ismacleby  you  to  anfvveu  »r/^/,no, 
none  at  ail;  a  fay  ing  of^LaSftt/tt/ut  being  parch'd  un 
to  it,  viz>.  not  any  coforeatt  facrificc ,  but  lywmvs  and 
praifc.  Whatever  you  may  findcin  Laff.rttt/us clCc- 
\vhere,ccrtaine  I  am,  that  yon  finde  nothing  to  this 
purpofe  in  all  iliac  place  which  you  have  noted  in 
your  margin ,  being  lib.  6.  cap.*^  though  pcradven- 
ture  you  have  ftudied  it  more  throughly ,than  any  o» 
ther  Booke  or  Chapter  3  which  concernes  this  point. 
Or  if  Lit&atttiuj  fay  ic  cite-where,  which  wcconrn- 
dift  not,  being  fo  like  to  that  which  is  affirmed  by  o« 
thers3of,  and  about  thofe  times :  yet  might  you  hive 
perceived  in  him,  an  anfwertoyourowneoly'eflions 
drawne  from  him,  and  them.  The  Queftion  was,  whe 
ther  or  noj  the  Chriftians  had  any  Sacrifices;  No  faith 
La&autiHf,  as  you  cite  him/fo  rarporcaU  Sacrifices.  La- 
tfantiHs  faith  not  of  the  Chri/tians,  that  they  had  no 
ftc rijiccs ;  but  no  corporeal!  ones.  You  were,  it  feemcs, 
fo  bufic  on  fome  corporeallfacrifictjNhidb  you  encoun. 
tred  within  the  forcfaid  Chapter ,  that  you  regarded 
not  the  anfwcr  to  your  owue  objection.  Nor  did 
the  Doftour  othcrwife  replie  co  thofc  allegations, 

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3  CCt.  2 .     whjch  you  produced  from  OrigM,  and  Jrnobitupw.  of 

BifliOp    Tencll  7  and  from  Arnobius  in  chis  place, 

than  what  you  make  Laclantius  fay,  if  you  cite  him 

(0  Cc  »';;M«.  rightly(c):  w"a.  that  thcy,(the  C kHJH**s)[ad  no  X//</r/ 

for  bloudy  and  external!  facrificcti,  as  the  Gentiles  had.        > 
Corporeal  Sacrifices •,  faith  Lattentws  Mt/dj  and  <•#/*/•-          , 
*</// SacrifocS)  kith  the  Doctor  •   Not £/0«<^  or  *#/»*. 
P?-  'J;        »rf//facrificcssas  you  make  him  fay  (fV,and  then  flieouc 
upon  hinij  as  your  cuftome  is  3  and  put  him  to  this 
wretched  choice,  cither  to  cowe  lo  ti\it  for  which  you 
have  liecnc  n'/*</w/»v.'(g<f////;Vn7j//c,<zv2;.that  thcy(the 
Piimitive  Chriitians)  had  no  dltarj  f«rtxternaljf#* 
crifices  •,  or  elfe  to  fhew  that  ever  oxefetker  orfchoole- 
MAn  did  teach  a  necejfitk  of  an  external,  slltarforitt- 
tcrnall  Sacrifice.  Let  the  poore  Doctors  (and^  ftand 
ftill,  and  hee  will  finde  you  Altars^  in  the  Primitive 
Church;  for  vifbk  and  external!  facrificcs,  though 
none  for  bloody  </<0*/f#/f /•/?./#  facrifices.  The  like  may 
bee  replied  to  that  which  you  produce  from  Miwttixt 
Felix  5  cnrarM  KitlLis  /»,^«/,vvhy  they  had  no  Altar?. 
Alttrs  they  Iwd ,  but  nofuch  x///rf/-/as  C<rr//wfpake 
of,  none  for  bloudy  facrificcs  of  flieepe  and  oxen.  Had 
you  but  looked  a  Jittle  forwards,  you  would  have 
Cg)  Alii  cos  fc-  foun(j  amongit  them  both  Priefts  and  Bifiops  ;($)  and 
uftTiis&ilcer-  therefore  by  y  our  owne  rule  hit  An  alfo  :  the  Prieft 
docis.okri:,     and  Altar  being  relatives,  as  you  often  tell  us.  Your 
fhC'      f  57    Argument,  drawne  from  a  cavil l(!l) of  lullm  the  Apo- 
'  ftatjy  that  wittie.Priwc  (forfcoth)  as  you  pleafe  to  call . 
him  ^  was  not  though:  worth  an  anfwcr  :l  when  pro- 
poftd  by  him.  S.  Cyritt  who  made  anfwer  unto  al  I  the 
.  re^^  whis  object  ion  of  not  creating  A//<r// (a«  ('>ny 
'  Lord  of  DMMefa  rightly  noteth  )  doth  not  fiv  one 
word.  ZW/V/w  objcftioa  vyai  abouc  fuch  facrifkes  (as 

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yourfelfe  confeflc)  in  which  the  leves  had  o»  agree 
ment  ia  fome particular  with  the  lagans:  zn&  therefore 
his  obje&ion  muft  relate  tofuch  Altars  alfo.  For  thac 
the  Chrijiiatts  had  their  Altars, for  the  M)fticaU  facri- 
fice,  Inl'tan  knew  full  well,  being  a  R.ndcr  of  the 
Church,  when  hce  was  a  Chridhn :  and  having,  when 
hcc  was  a  perfecutor3defiled  the  Altars  of  the  ChrHH- 
ans3(  k.Mcngned  for  their  moft  pure  and  itnblou.ly  fieri-  fl<)  7~( 
fice,  CU^XT*  ToJ  /c««tpw  9  with  prohibited  blood  5. is  3*t*1ttTn< 
Greg.  Nazrartzcn  complaineih.  Asfoi  your  obferva- 
tion  out  of  Pliviej  Epiftle,  drawn* from  the  (v)rack$  ff''«< 
indeed.,as  you  truly  fay,  there  is  nothing  ink  worth 
the  marking.  Forifthatsneicher  the  Apojf.ifaej^nor^he 
tortured  Virgins,  confefTed  any  thing  of  the  Chri- 
jlian  Material}  Altar  ^  you  can  no  more  conclude 
acainft  hiving  Altars ,  than  apainft  having  Reading 

o  ~  c  "  o 

Verves  and  Pulpit J9  whereof  theydid  confeflc  as  little 
in  their  examinations.  And  I  mult  tell  you  one  thing 
more,  that  if  you  urge  thele  texts  in  earned,  as  if  you 
thought  they  would  or  could  conclude  a?ainft  having 
Altars,  you  may  as  well  produce  them  ,  on  your  fe- 
cond  t,hou£h:s5againfl:  hiving  Churches:  whHii*  ihc 
next,  newes  I  expert  to  heare  from  you.  But  of  this 
more  hereafter  in  our  7.  Chape. 

As  for  the  facrificcs  mentioned  in  Minutitts  Fdix\ 
and  before  him  by  Origen,  in  that  HaTi  KtA^,  it  is 
not,  nor  was  ever  queftioned,  bnt  that  the  (acrifices  of 
each  Chriftian  privately,  were  of  a  mcere  ("pirituall 
nature.  The  Doctor  named  youfome  of  them  in  his 
Coal  from  the  Altar ^  (O^'tnefacrihceofpraifeand 
thankcf;iving}  Heb.  i;.  15  as  alfo  the  oblation  of  out 
ee  whole  felves,  our  foules  8c  bodies5to  be  a  rea{bnable3 
<c  holy  9  and  lively  facrifice  to  Almighty  God,  Horn. 


0*0 

Seel.  2.     r2-  i«  Thcfe  and  all  other  facrifices  of  chat 

ingfpirituttli  meerely,need  no  tnateritll  or  corporcall 
klt<tr.   The  rcatUeft  way  by  which  to  offer  them  to 
the  Lord  our  God.is  firlt  tofacriliccthcmon  the  A/- 
rtr  of  our  heart  by  faith  3  and  afterwards  to  Jay  them 
on  that  A//</A,  by  whichchey  may  bee  rendred  accep 
table  in  che  fight  of  God,  even  on  Chrift  our  Saviour. 
But  then  the  Doftor  faidwithall,  that  "the  Church 
ce  allowed  of  a  Commemorative  fecrijice  a!fo,  for  a  per" 
<c  pctuall  memoric  of  Chrift s  precious  death,  of  that 
ichis  full,  pcrfccl3andfutHciencfjcrifice,  oblation,and 
cf  fatisfa&ion  for  the  finnes  of  the  whble  world,  to  bee 
"  continued  till  his  comming  againe.Thc  formerpr/v- 
fcejtbc'm%  mcerly  of//>;V//W  nature ,  the  Lord  expects 
from  all  his  people  feverally.  Every  man  is5himfelfe.a 
Prieft,one  ofthebvoyall  Prieftkood  mentioned  by  ^. 
Pi /<?/•,  in  this  fenfe,and  in  relation  unto  thcfefpiriftfalt 
and  iate mail  facrifces;  which  he  is  alfo  bound  to  offer 
to  the  Lord  hisGodcontinually^tall  times;inall  pla- 
ccs,anti  on  all  occafions.  No  wood  fo  \vide3nor  dcnnc . 
fo  darkcj  nor  (ca  fo  fpacious  ?  which  may  not  bee  a 
Temple .  forthefe  devotions.and  in  the  which  we  may 
notrlndean  A/AV,  for  thefe  facrijires*  And  thcfeare 
v-S)in  qiioac*  they,  done  in  (*)  the  finglcnefieofheartjwithouthy- 
ccdanmsiide     pocrific  and  cuile,  whereof  there  is  not  any  thins  vi- 

K'  tp'liUl.lli  9  -  ~* 

ihina  IM  ve-  dole,  ;*Y.///r  Sttctrdos ,  neqite  .sv< 
,aci.<'t<le,iinc  no  more  tlun  is  the  A/A/r,  or  the  P//<r/?,or  .V 

iim-.ii.iiionc,     S.  AwM>/t' telsus.  But  fo  I  crow  it  is  notin 
infau-.faaionc        ..  .      .4         ,  ,  r    f 

fijc-i,t]  ..ianiiui  w*  facrificc,  that  of  the  Commemoration  of  the  death 
eft  v  ifiiuij  no-  and  palHon  of  our  Lord  and  Saviour;  which  purpofely 
""doTSe.  "  prefenttd  unto  the  eye  3  that  it  may  finke  the 
AatorJ*  deepcriuto  the  heart.  The  breaking  of  the  bread,  and 
ittbr- 10.  the  eifufion  of  the  wincdare  they  not  fenfiblcreprefen« 

rations 


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('JO 

tations  of  his  death  for  us  $  the  offering  up  of  his  body  Cap.  <. 
on  the  crofTe?and  (hedging  his  moft  precious  blond 
for  ourredcmpcion  ?  Which  being  viiiblc  initfclfe, 
and  purpofcly  fo  celebrated,  th.it  it  may  bee  v-ifibk  to 
all  the  congregation ;  comes  not  within  the  compafle 
ofdiofc/ffr^fcrrwhich  S.  hwbrofe  fpeaks  of :  though, 
Jike  a  falfegamcfter  you  have  cogged  a  die,  and  made 
S.  &wbrofe  fay  what  hee  never  meant.  For  telJ  me-of 
your  honeft  word,  doth  the  good  father  fpcake  there 
of  this  «*;>/?/<:*#  facrificc,  that  which  the  Pricfl  did  of 
fer  on  the  Altars  in  the  Primitive  times,  to  almighty 
God?  or  thofe  which  every  private  man  did  and 
might  offer  on  the  kllar  of  his  heart,  by  faith  ?  Doth 
(,h)  hee  IvyjNikilMe  vi/ibiley  that  here5(./  .e in  this  com-  (h)  V-(P- *** 
mtmoratlvt  fatrifici)  there  is  nothing  vifible,  neither 
the  PrKftjtht  Altar,  nor  the  Sacrifice?  Or  faith  hee,  hJhic 
Whilborxm  eft  iifblley  that  of  the  things  before  re- 
rnembred,  there  is  nothing  vifible,/.  e.  of  the  fpiricuall 
worfhip,  done  in  the  fingleneflcofthe  heart,  without 
hypocrific,  and  in  full  confidence  of  faith?  Forfhame 
dcale  better  with  the  F4//w/,how  ill  focvcr  you  deale 
whh  that  poore  fellow,  whom  you  have  in  hand.  S. 
kmbrofe  could  not  fay,  (the  times,  in  which  he  lived> 
confidered)  that  in  the  Representative  farrificeky  the 
Church  then  celebrated,  there  was  nothing  vijiblc  ; 
neither  t\\c  fac.rificc ^  the  /Y7Y/?,nor  hllar :  for  in 
thofe  times  the  Sacrifices^  TrieftjySndkltars  were  at 
their  full,  mounted  unto  their  height  for  reputation 
andefteemc^  as  you  know  right  well.  When  there 
fore  it  is  faid  in  the  kpologfticks  of  thofe  times,  that 
they  (  the  Primitive  Chriftiant}  had  neither  A/A/r/, 
image 7,  nor  teinpksqx.  muft  be  anfwered  with  relation 
to  thofc  times  in  the  which  they  lived.  And  fo  the 

M.4  Doftor 


Sec!t.  2, 


nutn.Atutu 


Doctor  anfwers  to  them  in  his  Coal  from  the  Alr*r9 
(' )  Firft5ouc  of  Bifhop  7we#5that  then <;  the  faithful  for 
'•  feare  of  tywitf /5\vere  faine  to  meete  together  in  pri- 
c;  vate  houfcs.,  in  vacant  places,  in  woods  and  forrefts, 
cc  and  caves  under  the  ground.   Your  felfe  have  told 
us  of  your  feife,  (thoupAyou  have  chriftncd  your  dif- 
courfc  by  the  name  of  the  holy  Tabtythatt  }l)yott  are  not 
Jo  unreasonably  tkdtoont  Table^  but.  if  the  woman  rrerg 
itrivettinto  tbcdifert  ,  yon  could  ktc  content  with  the 
%rt:enc  graffi.    And  then,  why  may  you  not  conceive, 
that  on  the  like  dilhefle,  the  <zralte  (liould  be  to  them 
in  ilead  of  an  A//V/r9  as  well  as  unto  you  in  fteadofa 
3W<?.The  DosTior  anf^/ercd  fecondly,that  when  they 
Cidurft  adventure  to  build  them  Chiti-chesj\\vy  neither 
"  were  fo  gorgeoufly  nor  fo  richly  furnimed,  as  were 
*{  the  Temples  of  the  Gentiles.  And  therefore  O/;w/, 

/  O        J 

<cand  hwobivs  (andwhofocvcrofthem  fpcake  in  the 
c£fclfc  fame  key)  are  not  to  bee  interpreted,  as  if  the 
^•Chrijluns  had  no  Churches  ,  or  at  the  leaftno  A/- 
cc  *.//•/  in  them  :.but  that  their  Churches  v/ere  fo  m-ean, 
cc  that  they  deferred  not  the  name  of  Temples  5  and 
*'  th.uthey  had  \\okltars  forblondie  an]  externall  fa- 
C"crifices5  as  the  Gentiles  had.  Hofyinian ,  on  whofe 
iuci^ement  you  doc  much  relic  in  other  matters3could 
cafily  have  told  you  (andqueitionlcfTeyou&w  it  in, 
him,  though  you  croncealc  it  wilfully  for  your  poore 
advantaLi;ci')thar in  thcC1  j  Priniitive Church?bcfore  the 
time  otOonfljntivcjhz  C/^//?/^/had  their  A/fars^oih 
name  and  thing :  and  for  the  proofe  thereof  doth  cite 
TertttUht!)  lib.  d<  pvttite&tiA,  Cyprians  Epift  1  es,  lib.  i . 
Epijt.  ?.&9.  and  a!fo,//£  3. Epift.  i  j.AH  tnat  he  ftands 
upon  is  this,E<e  tint  em  ar£  non  fit-irunt  l<tpide<T)tiecfix<ie, 
that  the  faid  hltars  were  not  n*ade  of  ftone,  aad  fafl> 

ncd 


Bed  to  Come  certainc  place,  as  was  appointed  not  long  Cap.  5« 
after  by  Pope  Sifoeftr\  and  as  DwvMfi&f  and  the  reft 
of  the  rXomin  Ritualtjlt  would  have  them  now.  A/- 
tars  hee  grants,  but  mo  Jen  hltars  ^  which  being  once 
devoted  to  that  holy  ufe ,  might  cafily  bee  removed 
from  place  to  place ,  as  the  neceflitiesof  thofe  times 
did  indeed  require.  No  fooner  was  the  Church  fetled 
and  confirmed  in  peace,  but  prefently  the  hlfars  alfo 
were  fixed  and  fetled. 

Now  for  the  nature  and  condition  of  rhis  Comme 
morative  or  reprefentative  ftcrificC)  which  we  have  tra 
ced  from  the  firft  Inftitutiob  of  it  by  our  Lord  and  Sa 
viour  ,  to  the  times  of  Conffantine ,  and  found  both 
f fiefs  which  were  to  offer ,  and  Altars  upon  which 
they  were  to  offer  ic  to  Almighty  Cod:  wee  cannon 
take  a  better  and  more  perfect  view  thereof,  than 
from  Eufcbius ,  who  hath  beene  more  cxaft  herein, 
than  any  other  of  the  Ancients.  In  lib  firft  booke  de 
DtMonftratietteEvangelka:  he  brings  in  this  prediction 
from  the  Prophet  Ejaj ,  that "  w  that  d.ty  flull  there  be 
"  an  Altar  to  the  Lord  iff  the  wld.kft  off  be  Idfrd  ofE?jpt) 
c'Ef.  ip.i9.Thenaddes,thatif  they  had  an  ^//</r,an<l 
ccthat  they  were  to  facrifice  In  to  Almighty  God, 

cC      /        .  fHtfj  f*  '.  +    * ^*    Q'r      1      'rlT/*ir  m n G*  l^**/"*    C'^/    L.ITW  *• 

Cc  though:  worthy  of  a  Pr/ejthoyJ  z\(b.  Buc  tlie  £.<•&/'//-  $v*rrif'*v** 
Cc^///Priefthooci  could  not  bee  of  any  ufe  unto  them,  J*'e^. '"' 
ee  and  cherefbre  they  muft  have  another.  Nor  was  this  (*)*&  j«o« 
"fpoke3 faith  he,  ofthcE<ypf/Vff/  onely,  "  but  of  all  ;;;?re>rr/si. 
(corher  nations,  and  idolatrous  people  5  who  now  A«A*?J -*»«>- 
Cc  poure  forth  their  prayers,  not  unto  many  gods^  buc 
"to  the  one  and  onelyLord  :  and  unto  him  ercCi  an 
cc  Altarht  reafonable  and  unbloudie  facrificcsf^  r^ 


•m 


054) 

"  in  every  place  of  the  whole  habitable  world  3  ac- 
"  cording  to  the  myftcrks  of  the  New  Teihmcnt. 
Now  what  thofc  my  ftcries  were,  hcc  declares  more 
fully  in  the  tenth  Chapt.  of  the  faidfirft  book  tc  C/ir//?, 
c:  faith  he,  is  the  propitiatorie  Sacrifcc  for  all  our  fins , 
c<  (luce  when  even  thofc  amount  the  Jcwcs  arc  freed 
"from  the  cwfe  of  A/0/r/  law,  euor^s  T>;V  T£ 


"/Wvlefis  celebrating  daily  (as  they  ought)  the  com- 
cc  memoration  ofhis  body  and  bloud,  which  is  a  farre 
a  more  excellent  facrificc  and  mrniftcrie ,  than  any  in 
"  the  former  times :  Then  addcs  ,  that  ChriftwrSt- 
cc  £;<%•/>•  ,  offering  fuch  a  wonderful!  and  excellent 
v'  Sacrifice  to  his  heavenly  Father  for  the  falvarion 
"of  us  all  ,  appointed  us  to  offer  daily  unto  God 

"and  as  a  Sacrifice.  And  anon  after  ,  that  whcnfocvcr 
<c  wee  doe  celebrate  TV^y  ^T  ^/uaflos  THV  /WV^MJIV, 
"the  memory  of  that  Sacrifice  on  the  Table,  par 
ticipating  of  the  Elemenu  of  his  body  and 
L'~  blood  i  wee  fliould  fay  with  D4vid,Thot/ prcparcjt  a 
"Table  for  me  in  t  he  prc fence  of  mine  excm/es^  thouan- 
*•*  voiriteft  my  Leitdrvith  oyk.my  cup  r?inxeth  0Z'rr-Wher- 
"  in,  faith  he,  he  fignifieth  moft  manifcftly  themyfti- 
"  call  unftion,  ^  TO.  c-e^vo,  T>??  yur'ts'  TpXT/^s  5-uW- 
a  Tx,  Sc  the  reverend  Sacrifices  oV  ChrrftsTablc^  where 
c;  we  are  taught  to  offer  up  unto  the  Lord.,  by  hisowne 
"  moft  eminent  and  glorious  Prieft,  °  the  unbloody, 

tr"  "  reafonable,  and  moft  acceptable  facrifice  all  our  life 
long.  Thisheeintituleth  P  afterwards  the  facri/ce  of 

!?,-  pw'fi*  ^ie  VwiM%  reveread,  and  MO$  holy  ftcrifcc^  the 
pure  facrifice  of  the  Nxr  1'eftantent.  So  that  we  fee,  that 
in  this  Sacrifice  prefcribed  the  Chriftkn  Church ,  by 

our  * 


(ijrt 

our  Lord  and  Saviour ,  there  were  two  proper  and  di- 
ftto&aCfions  :Thc  firft,  to  celebrate  the  memorial!  of 
our  Saviours  facrifice,  which  he  intitulcth  ,  rw  r£  vl- 
the  commemoration  of  his  bo- 


dy  and  blood,  once  Offered ;  Ttf*  ^V.ttxlo*    T>|V  fj.nt.Wlt 
the  memorie  of  thac  his  Sacrifice  5  chac  is,  as  hcc  doth 
clcerclv  expound  himfdfc,  that  we  fhould  offer  ^»',§<ov 
a/]  i  T>7*  ^fW**  7  this  our  commemoration  for  a  Sa 
crifice  :  The  fecond,  thac  withall  wee  fliould  offer  to 
htm  the  facrifee  ofyraife  &  thatttygiving)  which  is  the 
reafonable  Sacritice  of  a  Chriftiin  man  ,  'arid  to  him 
rnoft  acceptable.  Finally,  he  joyncsboth  thefc toge 
ther  in  the  Conclusion  of  that  Book,  and  therein  doth 
at  full  defcribethc  nature  of  this  Sacrifice \  y.'hich  is 
jhus^s  follower h"*  -'OyxVr  ^ ^iqvn  vtyf*.&un  T;T<  A"'/ 
TX,V  "Jwittw  T^T  /*-;>UAV  ^«x7oj3  e^f.   Ci  Therefore , 
"faun  lie.  wcj<wy£/fo,8iorferash  were  with  Inccnfe, 
Mchcjsw«tf^of  that  great  Sacrifice  ,  celebrating  the 
cc  fame  according  to  the  myferks  by  him-  given  unto 
<c  us,  and ••  *»  giving  thanks  to  him.foronr  falvation  ^ 
<c  with  godly  hymnes  and   prayers- to  the' Lord  our 
,|C  God^  as  alfooffcring  to  him  our  whole  felves ,  both 
"  foulc  and  body^and  c»  his  high  Prielt ,  which  h«  the  «fcTHF/<u 
"Word.  See  here,  E«JKAw*  doch  not  call  it  onely  the  <uj,rt?/<,'<t/ 
memorie  m  contrneworation  o$  Chtlftt  Sacrifice  :  but  \vnCut  C'i^ 
makes  the  very  memory  or  commemoration,  in,  and 
of  ic  felfe,  to  bee  a  Sacrifice  which  /»/?<//•  tmninm ,  for 
and  in  the  place  of  all  other  Sacrifices,  wee  nre  to 
offer  to  aur  God,  and  offer  it  with  a  ^la/uyjthe  In 
ccnfe  of  our  prayers  and  prayfes. 

This  was  the  do&rine  of  the  Church  in  F.ttfebitt 
time,  touching  the  Sacrament  of  the  body  and  blood 
of  our  Wetted  Sarioor*  Of  any  expMtoric  Sacrifice  3  of 

any 


o 


2. 


any  offering  up  of  ChrIJi  for  the  quick  and  tlca^?  mo  re 
th;ii  what  had  bccne done  by  him  once,  and  once  for 
al!,t!)ofcl>.!cfTccl  Ajzcs  never  dream' t.  And  howfoever 
ionic  of  the  ancient  Fathers  did  amplific  with  the  choi- 
ccllof  their  K/;r/0r;V/<.  the  dignity  and  nature  of  this 
holy  Sacrament^  the  better  to  inflame  the  people  with 
n  lively  zcale,  at  their  partaking  of  the  fame  :  yet  they 
meant  nothing  lcfies  than  to  give  any-opportunity  to 
the  future  Ages  of  making  that  an  expiatorie  S<icrijicc^ 
which  they  did  onely  tr-ach  to  bc^Cowraemortittve^  or 
reprejcatdtrjc  of  our  Saviours  palfioti.  A  Sacrifice -they 
did  confcjTc  i: ,  Altars  arid  Priefts  they  did  alloy/  of,  as 
necefftry  thereunto  •,  not  thinking  fie  to  change  thofe 
terms,which  had  bin  recommended  to  them  irom  pure ' 
antiquirie.  Thofe  blefTcd  fpirits  were  not  Aayo^ct^^ 
contentious  about  words  and  formes  of  (pecch3  in 
v;hkh  there  was  not  manifeit  im  pie  tie.  The  Supper  of 
the  Lord  3  they  called  fometimes  a  Sacrifice  5  and 
fomctimes  amcmoriall  of  the  Sacrifice,  ^(r/sw^x^Asf 
J*  Av*tewn  9i/r/k^>  aLtidCoS.Cbrjfifoffrc  on  the  ninth 
Chapter  to  the  Hebrews :  Sometimes  a  Sacrifice  5  and 
fometimes  a  Sacrament, and  Ib  r  S.  ^vjim. for  example  5 
for  in  his  BcokcsdeCivitate  De/^hee  callethit  a  Sacri" 
ficc  5  I  denim  SacrtfciuMfnecejftt  omnibus  ill  if  facrrfi* 
ciifl'ctcrit'rtflaff/tutiy&e.  and  faith  that  it  fuccceded 
in  the  place  of  thofe  Icgail  facrifices,  mentioned  in  the 
old  Tcihmenr.  The  fame  S.  Aufl-to,  as  you  tell  us  f, 
doth  in  the  fame  Bookes  call  it  a  Sacrament  of  memo 
ry.,  and  \v  ce  will  take  your  word  this  once  ,.that  hec 
cals  it  fo,  (becaufe  we  know  from  whence  you  had  it) 
though  in  the  place  by  you  cited  (being  /.  17.   c.  20.) 
there  is  no  fuch  matter  :  and  I  am  fure ,   that  in  the 
/OL:b.io.c,<.   very  fame  Bookes  ic  is  called '  S*cr*mt*tM9  Altarit : 

the 


i'r'Ub.'.T'C.lo; 


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on) 

the  Saframtt  of  the  kltar:  which  was  a  very  com-  Cap.  5. 
mon  appellation  araongft  the  Fathers5as  was  acknow 
ledged  by  the  Martjrnu  Quecnc  Maries  time.  So  for 
the  Minifter  thereof,  they  called  him  u  fomedmcs 
Fresfytcr,  and  fomctimcs  Sacerdo^  Elder  ,  or  Triep, 
indifferently  wirhout  doubt  or  fcruple  :  for  which  fee  jara 
the  Margin.  The  Tabl^  or  the  Altar  ^  were  to  them 
fuch  indifferent  v/ords,  that  they  ufed  both  equally  : 
Tpasre^ct-,  faith  Ettfebitu  in  the  tenth,  and  0w<«ctFVjpio7>  Mo.no. 
faith  Eujebitu  in  the  fixt  Chapter  of  his  firft  </<?  Demon" 
Jirathtte  Evangelical  A//^rj,faith  S.Av/?/'#  in  the  tenth  5 
and  weaft,  fakh  the  fame  S.  A///?/«  in  his  1  7.  ^  Civil  *- 
te:  x  Gregorj  Nyjfen  in  one  breath  doth  make  ufe  of  (x) 


both,  and  cals  the  fame  one  thing,  rpx^^ct  a'yw^  ^y-  B-1Frifmu 


« 


a^pxvTovjthe  ^  T^/^  the  undtjikdhltar  :  chr)ftl- 
A/^r/ofitone,  Tj  ^jcty^wov  rSlo  Ai'/os'^,  in  this 
Gregory  Njjfffm  Altars  of  wood,  ligna.  kltaris^  y  in 
S.A///?/«^  both  ufed  with  fuch  inditfcrency,  t 
J^/;  calleth  hisftoxe  Altar  by  the  name  of  TO^ 
Trf^^  and  A«/?/'«  calleth  his  wooden  'Table., 
Altar:  So  thac  in  all  this  fearch  intoantiquhie,  wee 
find  a  generall  confenc  in  the  Church  of  G.;d  couching 
the  bufinefle  now  in  hand  ,  the  Sacrament  of  rhr  Lords 
Supper  being  confetfed  to  be  a  Sacrifice^  the  MiniOer 
therein,  intituled  by  the  name  of  IV/V/?}  that  on  the 
wehthc  Prieft  did  confecratc,  being  as  ufually  called 
by  the  name  of  A/A*r,as  by  that  of  Table  .  And  you  may 
take  this  teftimonya'fo  from  the  mouth  of  a  Gentile^ 
that  the  ChriJ?iant  called  their  Table  by  the  name  of 
T-~5  TMWftif  TV* 


is  in  ZoziMixib.j.  Not  an  iagproptr  Altar  ,  and  an  />;- 
proper  Sacrifice  y  as  you  idly  dreame  of:  For  S.jcriji~ 
f(f3  Pritflt)  and  A//<WJ  being  Relative  J,  *  as  your  (r;P  07, 

felfe 


felfc  confc  fferh,  the  Sacrifice  and  the  kltar  being  im" 
proper,  mult  needs  infcrre  chat  even  our  PrieMwJh 
improper  alfo:  And  wee  may  fpcake  in  proper  and 
fignificanc  tcrmcs,  as  the  Fathers  did.  without  appro- 
ving  cither  the  r*t>ifl>  Maffe ,  or  the  lewifo  Sacrifices 
from  which  the  Doftor  to  asfarre,  as  either  you  that 
nude  the  booke,  orheethat  licen fed  it,  though  von 
have  both  agreed  together  to  breed  feme  bafe  fufpici- 
on  of  him  a ,  as  if  he  mint  fomtvh*  elfi  than  for  fare 

Q] our  Pracioitf  Kit:<zl:e djres  fhsrk*  nut    Ti-.^  i^\   n. 
j  ,      **. '        rjJffJt^ OUTt   A  Me  Doctor, 

lailureyou,  dares fpeake  what  hcc  thinkes.  fthouoh 
you  as  J  pcrfwadc  my  felfe,  thinfce  not  what  you 
peakc  0  and  will  now  teJl  you  what  hee  thinkes  to 
beetheDoaiineof  this  church  in  this  prefent  bufi- 
nefle,  of  Sacrifice*,  Pricf,,  and  Mtan,  that  wee  may 
lee  Inee  is  no  flincher  from  the  words  and  notions,  no 
more  than  from  the  Doftrines  of  molt  orthodox  An 
tiquity. 

AndmftbeginningwiththeP/'/V/Win  cafe  you 
arc  not  groyne  afliamed  of  that  holy  caJJing,  you  may 
remember  ehaptrnii  w*r»  a/Jn«i»*.«J  i.  ^i._.i:.j»  >  ,J 


--  j  j — —  -  ..VJM.  ,  LW  \j\.\.  juuiiicca  to  tnc 
OratrofPrleJlk*oJf  and  being  demanded  by  the  Bi- 
tttap9tfjoii  dUthinkc  in  your  hart  that  yon  vcrc  truly 
called  according  to  the  will  of  our  L»rd  lefa  Chrift  ' 

^tt  7    #  ft  a    ^1  i*  ,/*  •*    *  /**  /.  2 .    f*i.  -  /          Z*  •-.  f  »  J  J        9 


jicncofthe  Vriejllood  ^  youanfwcred  pofitivcly,  thac 
)ou  did:  if  you  thought  othcrwife  than  you  faid  as 
youdoefometimes5youf  lytJ not  unto  men,  but  unto 
CW.Looke  ju  the  Booke  of  Orfaatiov,  and  you  mail 
fande  it  ofcner  than  once  or  twice,  entkuled  the  Office 
*fi  rttfMjoA  &cbGl>  Office  of  PricJlhooJ:  the  panics 

thercumo 


('59) 

thereunto  admittcc! ,  called  by  no  other  name  than  Cap 
char  of  ?riejt$ :  Or  if  you  thinke  the  Booke  of  Ordina 
tion  is  no  good  auchoricy,  (to  v/hich  you  have  fubfcri- 
bed  however  in  your  fubfcription  to  the  Articles-^ ) 
look  then  upon  ''he  Lititrgfe^d  the  R.nbricl^  of  ir3by 
\vch  you  would  perfwadethe  world  chat  you  are  very 
much  dire&ed  in  all  this  bufineffc :  Fiade  you  noc 
there  the  name  of  Priefa  exceeding  frequent,  efpeci- 
ally  in  chat  part  rhero*  which  concerns  thcSacraashatf 

The  "rhftfttndingat  the  North  fak  of  the  TMe, • 

ThenjhaU  the  1'r/e/t  rehear  ft  diftinftly  all  the  tcnne  Com- 
wandcwentS)— —  Then  frail  the  Pricjl  fay  to  them  that 
come  to  receive  the  holy  Communion,  — —  'hcnfiall  the 
Prieftturnrnghiwfclfe  tothe  people ^  give  the  ahfolttt/* 
on.t»  "•'Theifoall  the  Prhfl  knedivg  dovcfic at  Go. is 
IZoot-d.j&c.lnftnltum  eft  ire  per  fagitla  ^  Ic  were  an  infi- 
n'tr.e  labour  to  fumme  up  all  places  of5  and  in  the  #//- 
biiclts,  wherein  the  Minifter  is  called  by  the  name  of 
/V/V/?;  v/hich  bein»  fo,  as  fo  it  is,  and  chic  your  owne 
fweeefclfe  hath  told  d  us  that  Altar,  Prieft,  an-i  Sacii- 
ficeare  IVelatives  •  the  Church  of  England  keeping 
[till  as  v/cll  the  Office  of  Priefthood3  as  the  name  of 
Pr/V^muft  needs  admit  of  Altars,  and  of  Sacrifices ,  as 
things  peculia'rto  the  fricfthood:  But  noc  totruft.fo 
f  reat  a  matter  to  your  rules  of  Logic^  wee  -will  next 
fee, what  is  the  judgement  of  the  Church  in  the  point 
of  Sacrificed  WQ  waycs  there  arc  by  which  thcClmrcli 
declares  her  felfe  in  the  prefent  bufincfle  :  Ficft,  pofi- 
lively  in  the  Booke  of  Articles,  and  that  of  Homilies  5 
and  practically  in  the  Booke  of  Common  prayers. 
Firft,inthe^/*/'V/^j  Ci  c  The  offering  of  chrif  once 
tcmadc,  is  that  perfeft  redemption,  propitiation3  and 
fpr  all  the  finncs  of  die.  whole  worldj 

"both 


0*0 


toe 


Sedl.  2«-  Cs  koth  origin^  a^  a&uall,  and  there  is  no  other  fa- 
<s  tisfaction  for  finne,  but  that  alone.  This  Sacrifice  or 
oblation  once  for  ever  made  ?  and  never  more  to  bee 
repeated^  was  by  our  Saviours  owne  appointment  to 
bee  commemorated  and  reprcfentcd  to  us  ,  for  the 
better  quickningof  our  faith  :  whereof  if  there  be  no* 
thing  faid  in  the  Booke  of  Articles  ^  ic  isbecaufe  the 
Articles  related  chiefly  untopoyntsinControverfie: 
but  in  the  Booke  of  H<w;//>/,  which  doe  relate  unco 
the  Articles,  as  confirmed  in  them5and  arc(though  not 
dogmatical!  3  but  rather  popular  difcourfes)  a  Com- 
n-ienc  ,  asic  were,  on  thofe  poynts  of  do&rine,  which 

(\\iicm.of  are  determined  of  elfewhere  :  (s)  v;ec  finde  ic  thus: 
,  |C  That  the  great  love  of  our  Saviour  Chrift  to  man- 
ec  kjncje  tjo^  not  onely  appeare,  in  that  deare-bought 
benefit  of  our  redemption  ,  and  fatisfa&ion  by  his 
*••  death  and  pafHon^'buc  alfo  in  thathee  hath  fo  kindly 
c<  provided  that  the  fame  moft  merciful  1  work  might 
Cc  bee  had  in  continuall  remembrance.  Amongit  the 
cc  which  meanes  is  the  pub-lick  celebration  of  the  mg- 
u  morn  of  his  precious  death  at  the  Lords  Table  :  -  : 
<cour  Sjvlour  having  ordained  andeftablifhedthe/r- 
"  twntbrance  of  his  greatmercie  exprefTed  inhispaf- 
<cfion  ,  in  the  Inftitittfort  of  his  heavenly  Supper. 
Here  is  a  commemoration  of  that  blcfled  Sacrifice 
which  Cktiftonce  offered,  a  publick  celebration  of  the 
tnemorie  thereof,  and  a  continuall  remembrance  of  it 
by  himfelfe  ordained.  Which  if  it  fceme  not  full 
enough  for  the  '-  omnKmeratwtfarificejft  the  Church 
8.  obferved,  the  Uomilit(»)  will  tell  us  further:  "that 
"  this  Lords  Supper  if  in  fitch  wife  to  bee  done  andminl- 
"jlred^K  our  Lord  and  Saviour  *  did^  and  commanded  it 
tc  tobee  dottt.jK  bit  hoi}  <^.poftt&  ^d  it  .and  the  good  Fa- 

<e  thtrf 


0*0 

"thers  fa  the  Primitive  Church  frequent  edit.  So  that 
what  ever  hath  bee  ne  proved  to  bee  the  purpofe  of 
the  Inftitutiott,  the  praftife  of  the  holy  Apapl's,  and 
ufjgc  of  the  ancient  Fathers  ^  willfal)  within  the  mea 
ning  and  intention  of  the  Church  of  England, 

For  betrer  manifcfting  of  the  whirh  Intention^  wee 
will  next  looke  into  the  //gcWv,  f  he  pub  lick  Licurgie 
of  this  Church.  Where  firll  wefindeit  granted,  that 
teh  Chrift  our  Saviour  is  the  verie  Pafchjll  Lamb  that 
cc  r»  if  offered  for  //*,  and  hath  taken  away  the  fin  of  the 
"world:  '  that  fuffering  death  upon  the  crolfefor  cornier  of tfa 
Cc  our  rvedemption.,he  made  there  by  his  owne  obhti*  confecwion. 
C(  on  o^himfelfe  once  offered,  a  full,  perfect,  andfuffi- 
*ccicnt  ficrifice,  oblation  and  Gtisfadionforche  finnes 
Cc  of  the  whole  world.  And  to  the  k  end  that  we  fliould  (\-.'\F.x;:9rtdtim\ 
c£alvvaies  remember  the  exceeding  great  love  of  our  Wart  tbcctm. 
ec  Maftcr,and  only  Saviour  lefw  Chrift  thus  dying  for  IKU"-M' 
ccusDand  the  innumerable  benefits  which  by  hi^preci- 
"ousblooJfliedding he  huh  obtained  to  us:  he  hath 
Cciuftiruced  and  ordained  holy  myfteries,  as  pledges 
<c  of  his  love  andcontinuall  reff/e/»bra#ceofhis  death, 
*c  to  our  great  and  cndleffe  comfort ; '  inftitudngand  Wraierofibe 
csinhis  holy  Gofpell  commanding  us  to  continue  a  (""fccntua. 
c<  pcrpttuallmemorie  of  tint  his  precious  death  til  1  his 
comming  againe.  Then  followcth  the  confccration 
ofthe  crearurcs  of  bread  and  wine,for '"  a  remmbranct  /m^rr,-ieri>r 
of  bit  death  arfHpifio»)  in  the  fame  words  and  Phra-   u.ttwfta*iiai 
fes  which  Chrift  our  Saviour  recommended  unto  his 
Apofl!esy  and  the  Apoftles  to  the  Fathers  of  the  Primi 
tive  times :  which  now,  as  then,  is  to  bee  done  onely 
by  the  ?ricft\Thentht  frieft  {landing  vpftwl/jjj.,  asfol- 
lmveth]to  whom  it  properly  belqngeth ,  and  upon 
whom  his  Ordination  doth  conferre  a  power  of  mini- 

N 


prittg  the  Stcratxentsptt  given  to  any  other  Order  in 
the  holy  Minifterie.  The  memoric  or  commemora- 
rrjfter  tjon  of  chrrjh  death  thus  celebrated,  is  called  "  a  fa- 
**'   cnfac,ajarrrficc  ofpraife  andthanl^giving  5  a  facrificc 
reprcfentative  of  that  one  and  onely  expiatorie  facri- 
fit  c  which  Chriji  once  offered  for  us  all:  the  whole 
Communicants  befeechiitg  God  to  grant ,  that  by  the  me* 
rits  and  dejth  of  his  Sonne  Tef/fs  Chrifl  y  and  through 
faith  in  his  blood  they  <mi  the  r?ht>le  Church  may  obta'me, 
the  rtMifiionofth. irfir.nes^  and  all  other  the  benefits  cf 
Iw  P  fion  :  Nor  ftuy  they  there,  but  forthwith  offer 
d  pcejwt  unto  th  Lord  th.-ir  fehes^  their  joules  and 
tj  tob.:e  arejjOKablc,hoty,  and  lively  facrijicc  unto 
And  howfoever,  as  t ht-y  moft  humbly  doe  ac 
knowledge  ,   thty  are  unworthy  through  their  tnani~ 
foldjinvesjo  offtr  to  him  any^acnjice^  yet  they  bcfeech 
him  to  accept  that  their  bounds  dittie  and  ftrvice. 
In  which  laft  wor^Js,  that  piefent  fervice  which  they 
doe  to  Almighty  God ,  according  to  their  boundert 
duties,  in  ceicbraringthe  pcrpetnall  MWiory  ofchrifls 
frcchus  death ,  and  the  obla*ionof  their  felves ,  and 
xv'rh  thcmfelves  the  focrijicc  of  prat  le  and  thankefij* 
irivgy  in  due  acknowledgement  of  the  benefits  and  cotft- 
forts  by  his  death  received,  is  humbly  offered  unto 
God,  for,  and  as  a  Sjcrifice^  and  publickly  avowed  for 
fucb,as  from  the  tenour  and  coherence  of  the  words 
doth  appeare  moft  plainly.  Put  all  together  which 
hath  been  here  delivered  from  rhe  Bookc  of  Articles., 
the  //0w///V/5and  publick  £.//»*•£/?,  and  tell  meeif  you 
ever  found  a  more  excellent  concord,  than  this  be- 
twecne  Eupbius  and  the  Church  of  England^  in  the 
f.rcfent  bufiuefie:  Our  Saviours  facrifice  upon  the 

Croflcj  called  there 3  T«  Ty^y^os  x.»^v  xct^-aptfi^ 

and 


and  here  acknowledged  to  bcethc;*r/ir#  rtdcmpion^  Cap.  5^ 
fropitiatton  3  and  fat  b fiction  for  all  the  fnitts  tf  the 
whole  world.    There  wee  have  •wetpacM/i'/ftu'JF/iff;** 
ynyftcries  delivered  to  us  by  our  Lord  and  Saviour3tor 
a  remembrance  of  chat  great  facrifice  ;  anohere°an  (ojr-xbortar* 
Inftitution  of  holy  nyflerictjtephdgcs  of  his  love,and    °^t 
contitwtll  remembranca  of  his  death.  The  memory  or 
commemoration  of  this  his  death,  called  there  rtf*  r 
wju.(tlo$  iuT*  *,T*  «Wro$  fcsr'^vw* :  and  ''here the  (p) 
publick   celebration  of  the  rxemorie  of  Lis  precious 
death,  at  the  Lords  Table ^  there ^v'.w.v  TV"  ^gyxA^ 
3-tVxToS*     ricre  4t^e  remembrance  of  his£>r//  -V/^AT/  ( 
cxprefled  in  his  paffirn  :  therefor  the  offering  of  this 
facrifice  to  almighty  God  5   travra'5  ^  i\wau«.  C>v. 
there  was  a  Prhfthood  thought  10  be  ver}  ntceflary, 
and  here  the  Pticft  alone'  hath  power  to  confecrate  ( 
the  Crearures  of  bread  and  wine  ,  fora  remembrance  f**  tbc  ton[t~ 
of  his  dea  h  and  p?(Iion  :  There  the  whole  a£tion,asic  trattott' 
relates  to  Priefland  pee  pie,  is  called  ^VO'MWAO^-)  & 
here'  the  fac  rifice  of  /);v/r/e  anilthant\s-vjving\  there  (trwirepo 
rls  Ao'/owcj   JUO'A*>  &  ;g?;T;;;W*    7^*.  here  inthc  ^^am>i:'<:'v 
(elfc  fame  words,  a  reajovablimnd '  vtj  Sicrifice :  There 
the  Communicants  doe  cffer  iorhe  Lord  o^$«t;TVj: 
CC^MCTI  ^  ^VH  5    €>^^.  and  here  they  doc  prt  fern  unto 
him  their  fetves,  foules^  and  bodies.  Final ly/hereir  is 
laid,  ^o^t€|  T-,y  ^i^nv  TV^yctAv  2-^aTeSj  that  they 
doc  faaifice  unco  the  Lord  the  memory  ofthar  t^rcac 
oblation ;  /,  e .  as  hec  expounds  himfclfc,  they  offer  to 
him  ihc  commemoration  of  the  fame  foi\  r~f$  ^J0^-9 
for,  and  as  a  Sacrifice.  And  here c  wee  doe  befeech  the  r^  i^i. 
Lord  to  accept  this  our  lnndtn  cluth  andfcrvicc^  for, 
and  as  a  facrifict ,  which  notwithftanding  u-ee'con- 
fefleour  felvcs  wwortly  to  offer  to  lutm  Never  did 

N2  ciiurclt 


(1*4) 

Church  agree  more  perfectly  with  the  ancient  pat- 
tcrnes. 

Yet  left  youfhould  cndeavoras  you  ufe  to  doe,  to 
caft  a  mift  before  the  eyes  of  poore  ignorant  people, 
as  if  the  Church  meant  nothing  lelfe  than  what  here  is 
fuid :,  will  you  bte  pleafed  to  looke  upon  thofe  Wor 
thies  of  the  Church,  which  are  beft  able  to  expound, 
and  unfold  her  meaning  :  wee  will  begin  with  Bifhop 
Andrews^  and  tell  you  what  he  faith  (u)  as  concerning 
facrip'ces.  ct  The  Euchariftjwh  hec5ever  was  and  is  by 
"  us  conn  lered,  both  as  a  Sacrament,  and  as  a  Sacri* 
"fat.  A  ficrifce  is  proper  and  appliablc  oncly  to  Di- 
cc  vine  w  Oi  (hip.  The  facrifice  ofC/yv/7/  death  did  fuc- 
a  ceed  to  the  facrijices  of  the  old  Teftament ;  which 
c<  being  prefigured  in  thofe  Jacrifccs before  his  com-. 
<cming,  hath  fince his  commingbecne  celebrated/^/- 
Cc  SatriWhnitim  memorijc ,  Ly  a  Sacrament  of  memo- 
<c  ry,  as  S.  ^/////>calsit.  Thus  alfoin  his  anfwcr  unto 
Cardinal  1  fiel/armine,  'follite  de  wijfa  Tranfiilftantiatio- 
VCM  i):flramj*te  d/u  nobi fount  lis  crit  defacrificioy  &c. 
<c  Take  from  the  Mafle  your  Tranfubftantiation,  and 
Cc  wee  will  have  no  difference  with  you  about  the  fa* 
cc  cnfice.  (xjThe  fiiemortt  of  a  Saryifce  we  acknowledg 
KfiSS      c:  willingly  5  and  the  King  grants  the  name  of  Sacri- 
in-  ^jTretohavebecnc  frequent  with  the  Fathers.    For 
d  8    hltars  next.    "  If  v/ee  agree  ((>')  faith  hee)about  the 
^Anfrv". to. '  "  matter  oif^crifce^  there  will  be  no  difference  about 
tc  the  hlftr.   The  holy  Euchanjt  being  confidered  as  a 
"  facripctQn  t^ereprefentadon  oflreaking  theBrcad^ 
<<:  and  pouring  foiththe  Cup,  )  the  fame  is  firly  called 
"  an  kltar  ^  which  againe  is' as  fitly  called  a  Table^  the 
<e  EncL'jrift  being  confidered  as  a  Sacrament,  which  is 
ff  nothing  elfe  butadiftribution  and  applicadon  of  the 


a  Sttcrifce  to  tho  feverall  receivers.  So  that  the  matter    Cap.  5. 

<{of  Altars  makes  no  difference  in  the  face  of  our 

e  Church.    As  Bifhop  Andrertes  wrote  at  King  lames 

his  motion  againft  Cardinal iF^r/Tr/^  fo  Jfiac  Cajau- 

bon  writ  King  fames  his  mindc  to  Circiinall  Yeron\  and 

in     cxprt  fling  of    his  ininde,  affirmcth  9    Veteres 

ckfa  Patrcs ,  &c.  "Thar the  ancient   Fathers  did 

<e  acknowledge  one  onely  Sacrifice'in  the  Chriftian 

cC  Church^  which  did  fucceed  inplaccofallthofefa- 

e;  crifices  in  the  law  of  Moje j  ^  that  hee  conceived  the 

Cc  faid  fhcrifice  to  bee  noticing  clfe,  -xijt  cowMcmoriitio* 

cc  ntw  ejift  quod  jewel  in  crticc    Chriftus  Pttri  f//0 

"obtulit ,  than  a  Commemoration  of  that  facrifice 

cc  which  C  H  R  1 .9  r  once  offered  on  the  Crofe 

<c  to  his  heavenly  Father  :  (*)  that  oftentimes  the 

cc  Church  ot  E^/rf/r.^hath  profcired^flic  will  not  drive  tcm 

cc  about  the  Word,  which  fiiecexprcfly  ufcthin  her 

cc  publick  Liturgic.  All  this  youfeeme  to  grant  5  but 

then  make  a  difference  betwecne  (a)  the  CowwtMora- 

tion  of after ifice ,  and  a  coawKmoratiw  ftcrifict  .-And 

though  you  grant  that  in  the  Eucharijt  there  is  com- 

VKtnoratiofacriJicirrftt  you  flic  out  upon  the(b)Do- 

ctor,fbr  faying  Jthat  the  Church  tdmitsof  acomtnmo- 

raiivefecr}ficc\\\\&3\  is  as  much,  you  (ay^  as  P.  Lombard 

and.i".  his  ragged  regiment  admit  of.  If  this  be  all  you 

ftandupon,  you  fhall  foone  be  fatisfied .  Arch-Bifliop 

Craxtmerfyhom  you  your  felfe  acknowledge  to  be  the 

moft  learned  on  this  Theame  of  our  late  Divines)  di- 

ftinguifheth  moft  cleerely(c)bctweenethe  facrijrcc  pro- 

"pittjtorj  made  by  Chrift  himfelfe  oncly,  and  theft 

cc  crijice  commemorative  and  gratulatory  made  by  the  nerf?-4jy. 

"  Priefts  and  people.  My  Lord  of  Durham  alfo  doth 

call  &sEucharift a  irtprejeatttwe  and  commemorative  ^°f  tt;ef**" 

XT  r  mijfizadi ,••,»*• 

N3  fieri*  t.c. 


[jcrlpcc ,  in  as  pbine  language  vcrcly ,  as 
did  5  although  hcc  doth  deny  it  tobecapropcrfacri* 
fice  :  As  for  your  Criticifmc,  or quarrell  rather,  be- 
twccne  a  commemorative  ficrifice,  and  a  commemo- 
ra'ion  of  a  Sacrifice,  which  yon  infift  on,  itwasvery 
ncedlefTc ,   both  tcrmes  being  ufed  by  Bifliop  An 
drews  (as  great  a  Ckrk$  as  any  MittiJiereflJwolne 
DioceJJ?)  as  equipollent  and  equivalent  5  both  of  one 
(0  DC  com-     cxprcifion  ;  e  of  which  fee  the  Margin.   But  to  tjoc 
ib?Sac™H?ij'      forwards  with  the  Sacrifice ?my  Lord  oSchichefier  thus 
ten  f.i  nlu-io      fpcakcs  unto  his  Informers:  ul  I  have  (  faith  lice) 
commcjvMa-    «  fo  good'ar.  opinion  of  your  undcrftanding,  though 
)o/>«y.  ad  car.  "  weake,rhat  you  will  conceive  the  blcffed  Sacrametit 
*f^«  "oftheAltary  or  the  Communion  Table,  which  you 

cifirem10       CC  pleafe,  to  bee  afacrifice.  Vv7hat  doe  I  hearc  the  Bi- 
p  .18 ;.  fiiop  fay  3  the  blcjj'ed  Sacrament  oft  f:e  Altar  $  And  doc 

you  not  perfwade  us  3  or  at  leaft  endeavor  it,  out  of 
(s)p.??.  hisanfwer  to  the  Cjg^ery  that  s  G^f^rr  offrotcftaatt 
call  if  fo,  but  Protejltwfs  thcwfetvcs  doe  not?  Ir  istru?, 
that  in  his  anfv/cr  to  the  Cnggcr  5  hce  hath  thofe  very 
words  which  you  thence  produce  ;  the  Sacramnt(as 
yen  call  it)  of  tfa  Altar :  burthen  it  is  as  true,  that  he 
doth  call  it  fo  lymfelfe;  and  is  refolvedto  call  itfo, 
howfoever  you  like  it.  Ct  Walk  you  »  (faith  he)ac  ran- 
t{  dome,  and  at  rovers  in  yourby-pathes3ifyou  pleafe. 
<c  1  have  ufed  the  name  of  Altar  for  the  Communion- 
"Table,  according  to  the  manner  of  antiquity,  and 
"  am  like  enough  (bmerimcs  toufc  it  ftill.  Nor  will  I 
"  abfuine,  notwithstanding  your  oggannitioD,to  fol- 
ct  low  the  Itepsand  practice  of  Antiquity,  in  ufing the 
•  c;  words  Sacrifice  and  Priejlhooti  alfo.  Finally  3  hhec 
brings  in  Bifliop  Morton  profcding  thus,  That  hce  belce- 
vcdvofmhfacrrfae  of  the  Alcar;  as  the  Church  ofRowc 

doth 


0*7) 

j#t>juultb*k*f**tKthrH>f*ch  Altars  asthjimplop  Cap. 

ffo*g£  hee  pro fe fled  a  Sacrifice  **/**  Altar  •  Neither 

doth  Bifliop  M0/-/0*  allow  the  names  of  Pricft  and 

Altar,  and  no  more  than  fo :  but  hee  allowcth  of  a 

Reverence  to  bee  done  towards  the  Altar  -y  though 

differently  from  that  in  the  Church  of  Rome.  For  thus 

faith  hee, "  The  like  difference  may  bee  difcerncd, 

ccbetweene  their  raannerof  reverence  in  bowing  to- 

"  wards  the  Altar  for  adoration  of  the  Eucharijt  oncly: 

tc  and  ours  in  lowing  afwell  when  there  is  no  Eucha- 

te  rifton  the  Table,  as  when  there  is,  which  is  not  to 

<c  the  Table  of  the  Lord,  but  the  Lord  of  the  Table, 

"toteftifie  the  Communion  of  all  the  faithful!  Com- 

"municants  thereat,  even  as  theptopleof  God  did, 

ccin  adoring   him  before  the  Ark   hi*  foote  jtoole, 

"  Pfal.  99.  &c.  So  he  in  his  6.  booke  of  the  Rwaiflj  Sa- 

"crtfce  cap.  5.  Scft.    15-  of  the  edition  An.   1635. 

Thus  having  plainly  lay  cd  before  you,  the  Doftrine, 

Vfe,  and  practice  of4»tiq*itie  in  the  prefent  bufineffe, 

together  with  the  tendries  of  the  Church  of  England 

conforme  thereto  ^  wee  will  next  fee  what  you  can  fay 

unto  the  contrary ,  and  what  faire  dealing  we  are  like 

to  fiadc  in  your  proceedings. 


N4  CHAP.  VJ. 


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0*9) 

Laberinth  as  of  your  conv,y>(rton*:  And  here  you  Cap. 6. 
change  che  very  Itate  of  me  queilion  at  your  firft  en 
trance  on  the  fame.  The  Biflup  chtrgc-tit  ho'nc,  as 
hec  conje&ured,  *  that  if  ch~  Vicar  fiottd  crrett  <?nj  (a; utter  p. 
Cttch  Altar^  hit  difcrethn  would  prow  the  only  H&loc.tufi 
tobcfacrificcdthenon  :  No.v  you  luve  ch  in^ed  ic  b  to 
a  clvfc  Altar  at  the  uppzr  eftJojth?  squire  ^  where  the  old  (  ' 
Altar  in  giteeaeMjiticstixtie  flood.  This  is  nohoieft 
dealing;  to  begin  with.  The  mention  of  chfe  /lt- 
tars,and  Qu-.-ene  M<trics  time,  comes  in  here  very  un- 
feafonably,  if  noc  fufpitioully,  onely  to  mike  poore 
raenafraidj  (whom you  have  throughly  pofTefTed  al- 
reary  withfuch  Vanick,,fearcs)  that  Altars  and  Queene 
M^vV/dayesarecommineiaagaine  amon^ffc  us.  Nor 
have  you  dealt  better  with  the  3 1  Article  in  your  ov/n 
Edition  c  of  the  Bifhops  letter,  where  you  have  made  (C)p.  14. 
icfay,  that  that  other  obladon,  which  the  Papifts 
were  wont  to  offer  upon  thefe  Alt<trs,  is  a  bhfyhtwoiir 
foment*,  zndpcrnictot/j  impolittre*  Thefet  was  not  in  the 
Tex  before,  and  is  now  onely  thruft  into  ic ,  to  make 
the  Vicar  come  up  clofe  to  Queene  Msries  Altars.  I 
pray  you  good  Sir, what  fpeftacles  did  you  ufe  ,  when 
you  found  Altars^  and  tuefe  Alters,  P<*piftsy  and  that 
other  oblation  in  the  31  Article,  wherein  my  dull  and 
heavie  eyes  can  fee  no  tuch  word  ?  This  is  another  of 
your  tricks,to  make  your  credulous  followers  beleeve, 
that  by  the  doctrine  of  the  Church  in  her  publick  Ar 
ticles,  Paprfts  and  Altars  arc  meere  r\cla-ives^  th.xt  fo 
whofoevci  fliall  butufethen.imcof  Altar,  or  fpc.ske 
of  placing  the  Communion  Tible  Altar-nlf:y  nny^e 
fufpeited  prefently  to  be  a  Pv/>//?,  or  at  leift  Popljlil) 
affeftcd.  Nor  doc  I  fpeake  this  without  ^ood  authori 
ty  :  For  doe  sot  youccllus;  thac  the  PhtvtajlicjU  VI- 


Sc<5t.    2.    ft"*  r*;^  kb  Communion  TM  aa  Altar^  *t 

do^  p.  109  ?  and  have'you  not  corrupted  the  Bifhops 
Letter,  to  make  it  fay,  that  Altars  were  oxtl}  enfttd 
forth:  f.tcrijjct  of  the  Maffe,  p,x6  ?  which  was  not  in  the 
Text  before.  But  Sir,  the  primitive  Chriftians  had 
their  Alters,  when  there  was  nofuch  'hirginbeeing 
d  as  the  popifb  lambc ;  no  fuch  blaCphemotts  foments , 

fd)  iM<'I/i>'"  ,  .    .*          .          „  ,        i        A      .    .  i 

tui-!-avi*i  M-  an"  ptrwctoHs  impofturts,  as  by  the  Article  are  char, 
ged  on  the  Church  of  Rcase^  in  thofe^  by  us, rejected 

facrificcs  of  the  A^  '  So  thac  b°tn  J  and  you,  may 
\vhhont  danger  of  revoking  our  fiibfcriptions  to  the 
Bco:\e  of  Article •/,  fctthe  Communion  Table  at  the 
upper  end  oftheCAMfee09  there  where  the  old  Altar 
jioodin  Queene  M.irhs  time*  if  you  needs  will  have  ic 
To :  and  yet  no  more  dreamc  of  the  Pcpijfj  Lsmbc,  and 
thofe  blafybemous  faweuts  which  the  Article  ipeakcs 
oS,  than  did  the  holy  Fathers  in  the  primitive  times, 
when  neither  your  faid  Popijh  Lambe,  nor  any  of  thofe 
figments  were  inrernmnatnra*    Now,  as  you  p.Jter 
with  the  Article^  fo  doe  you  onely  play  and  dally  wirh 
the  HoffjJ/fe ;  as  one  that  loves  fo  dearely  well,  (  what* 
foever  you  f  .y  unto  the  contrary)  Xuf4a^idii  rti  /wr»- 
pisti  to  make  your  felfe  merry  with  (acred  things.  You 
(e)  of  tit  Sa.  fell  us  from  the  Hotnily^  that  wee  muft  take  heed  c  left 
the  Lords  Supper  of  a  memory  bee  made  afacrifice:  and 
o- 1       r^en  Procecde,  f  What  jaitb  the  Doff  or  to  this?  Hee 
"  faith  that  bj  thcfe  rco*ds  the  Church  admits  of  a  Commt* 
ttjorativf  facrifce.  Which  faid,  you  make  your  Rea 
ders  even  burft  with  laughter^by  telling  them,  that  the 
poorc  man  hath  found  a  true  and  reall  facrifce^  (in  the 
Booke  of  Homilies)  but  it  is  a  Buff  $  a  very  flrange  and 
hideous  T>ttU  which  this  Calfc  mjfys  the  Church  fpeafy  un* 
tc  her  fcople  i»  ksrptbli!^  Homilies.  And  what  is  that  > 

tc  As 


Cap 

Ce  As  wee  mnft  take  heed,  good  people,  we  apply  not 
<e  the  Sacrament  of  the  Supper  to  the  dead,  but  to  the 
"  living,  8cc.  fo  muft  wee  take  efpcdall  heed,  left  of  a 
<;  Commemorative  facrifce  it  bee  made  a  Sacrifice.    A 
very » pious  Butt  indeed,  you  fpeake  wondrous  rightly ; 
but  a  'Bull  onely  of  your  owne  herd,  and  onely  fie  for  t-. 
fuchaM//0asyourfelfeltocarry.  For  tell  mee,  doth  fofe-.-ce  «piu« 
the  Doftor  fay,  that  by  theft  words  the  Church  admin s  ffi™ 
of  a  Commemorative  facrifice  .<?  On  with  your  falfc  eyes  /».««» iiuii  p.i 
once  agatne,  and  you  will  finde  the  DC  ftor  makes  no 
other  anfwer  to  your  objedtion  from  the  Homily  !l3  but  (l;c«*'-P-8- 
that  thepmjfre?  rcje&ed  in  the  HomHy^  is  thttt  which  fr 
crycd  4ow*tc  to  theho$kg  of  Art  teles  .>  which  the  Epiftolcr 
had  no  re  a  fort  t  o  fofpeff  rrts  ever  aimed  at  by  the  I  "tear. 
Of  a  Commtmorjttve  facrjfice  in  thofc  words  of  the; 
Uomili*}  ne  gry  qtiiJemy  there.     Indeed  the  Doftor 
faid  before,  in  anfwer  to  your  argument  from  the  31. 
Article ,  that  though  the  Church  condemned  that 
ether  otiatifl*  rf  the  ?apijts9  as  the  letter  calls  it:  yet 
Cs  (lie  allowcs  of  a  Commemorative  Sacrifice  for  .1  pcrpc- 
"  vaaMviemory  ofChrifts  prcrious  dcath^of  that  his  ftil  1, 
*cpcrfeft,and  (ufficient  facrifice.,  oblation,  and  f?.tisfa- 
c'  ftion  for  the  fins  of  the  whole  world.    And  for  the 
proofe  thereof  referred  himfelfc  unto  the  Trayer  of 
the  Confecrat/ort-j  which  are  not,  fure,  the  words 
of  the  Homily.,  or  by  him  cited  thence,   if  you 
jnarke  it  well.    Or  had  hee  faid  it  tfthofr  words  in  the 
Booke  of  Homilies,  had  itbeene  fuch  a  ftrawe  and  />/- 
Atom  Butt  ,  withfoure  Homes,  and  I  know  not  how 
manytayles,  tor  youtoleade  it  by  up  and  do wne  the 
Gountrey,  for  the  delight  and  folace  of  your  fportfull 
Readers?  Could  you  not  paraphrafe  upon  it  thus  ? 
We  muft  take  heed  good  people,  left  the  Lords  Sup. 

per 


07*) 

Scdl.  1i  per  .of a  mfmorh\*t  made  a  Sacrifice :  I.  f .  left  of  a  £##- 
wetMoralivc  fecrificc.,  it  bee  made  propitiatorie ?  No  i 
He  that  lookes  for  ingenuity  from  fuch  hands  as  yours, 
xr.uifc  have  Idfc  knowledge  of  you,  and  more  faich  in 
you,  thaii  I  dare  pretend  to.  And  for  your  Bui/,  that 
was  but  a  device  to  make  fport  for  Btyts*  Shewing  us 
fo  much  Spjitijl)  in  the  Margin,  you  had  a  rninde  to  let 
us  fee,  that  you  did  underftand  as  well  their  cuftomcs, 
as  their  language  :  and  therefore  would  fct  out  a  Ivego 
dzToros,  a  kinde  of Eult  baititigfoi  rhel?<yw,who  muft 
be  pleafed  too  in  this  bufinede.  You  have  woe  ftudi- 
cd  all  this  while. populo  HtplaccreKtonzlyJout  now  and 
then  ttt puerit  pfaceaS}  &  dtclafaatiojfas^  as  you  know, 
whofaid. 

But  would  we.  fee  a  />//#  indeed.,  a  K//^  fct  out  with 

flowers  and  Garlands,  ready  for  the  Sacrrfce  ?  Out  of 

your  {tore  you  can  afford  us  fuch  a  one.,  though  not 

Copious  altogether,  as  that  you  fent  unto  the  Doftor. 

Wee  fa  w  before  how  well  you  pleaded  againft  Altars^ 

out  of  the  Articles  and  booke  of  Homilies:  and  now 

behold  an  argument  from  the  Common  grayer  Bofl%ey 

which,  if  the  bufineflebe  not  done  already,will  be  fure 

(0  p.  7*7^      to  doe  it.   For  you  '  appcdle  to  all  indifferent  men^  that 

ce  pretended  to  any  knowledge  in  Divinity,  if  the  Rea- 

c<  ding  Vevi\  the  Pulpit  3  and  any  other  place  in  the 

c<  Church  bee  not  as  properly  an  Altar,  for  prayer, 

<cpraife,  thankfgiving,  memorie  of  the  pafllon,  dedi. 

t{  eating  our  felvcs  to  Gods  very  fervice ;  and  the 

cc  Churches  Box  or  Bafon ,  for  that  oblation  for  the 

<e  poore  which  was  ufed  in  the  Primitive  times  5  as 

"is  our  holy  Table,  howfoever  fituated  or  difpofed. 

Nay,  you  aoe  further,  and  demand,  what  one  facnfice 

«c  can  be  inferred  out  of  the  Collects  read  by  the  frisp 

at 


c<  at  the  CotnmtttwnYable  ^  which  arc  not  as  eaflly  dc-  Cap.  6. 
**  duced  out  of  the  TV  Dtum  and  Eenediftiu  faid  in  the 


f  whether  chcre  bee  no  pray- 
ccing  ,  praifing,  commemorating  of  thePaflion,  and 
c<  confecrating  of  our  felves  to  Gods  fervice  in  thofe 
two  hjmws.The  Fathers  were  but  filly  foules  in  drea 
ming  of  one  Altar  only  in  each  feverall  Church:  wher- 
as  indeed  there  are  as  many  as  wee  pleafe  to  make. 
Here  is  the  Voort-mans'&QXfbtGemmHnioii  Table  ^  the 
Pulpit,  znd  the  Rtadwg  Pew,  Evquatuor  Arat  :  foure 
in  aknot;and  yet  not  halfe  enough  for  fo  many  facri- 
fices.  And  therefore  every  place,  the  Be//  free  ,  the 
ffwrch'porch,  theCharatUoovJe,  thefett  of  every  pri 
vate  perfon,  the  r<r/?r/V  chiefe  of  all,  and  vvhatfoever 
other  place  a  man  may  fancy  to  himfelfc,  are  now 
turned  to  Altars.  This  if  we  doe  not  y'eeld  to  at  the 
firft  propofall,wee  are  pronounced  alreadie  to  have  no 
knowledge  i&  Divinitie^  and  not  to  be  indifferent  MM, 
but  parties.  Not  fo  indifferent  men  as  I  thinke  you  are  : 
norfo  well  skilled  in  this  new  Liucolnfyire  divinit)y 
which  oncly  you  and  one  or  two  more  of  your  deare 
acquaintance,  have  been  ple.ifed  to  broach.  What 
need  we  take  this  paines  to  looke  after  Altar  -j,  when 
by  this  Boftpn  do&rine  the  Connnnnion  table  may  as 
well  be  fpared  ?  0  Jpef  inanes  &  fiitftra  coejtatiottes 
we£l  It  alvvaieswas  my  hope,  that  howfocver  wee 
loft  »:he  Altar,  I  might  be  confident  wee  fhould  have 
a  table  left  us  for  the  holy  Sacrament,  at  Jeaft  the 
Sacrament  it  felfe.  But  fee  how  ftrangely  things  are 
carried:  Rather  than  heare  of  Altars  j  we  will  downe 
with  Tables;  yea  with  the  Sacrament  it  felfe  :  and  let 
the  memorie  of  Chrifls  pafllon  bee  celebrated  how  ic 
where  ic  will,  in  the  Pew,  ox  Pulpit,  the  Porch 

ox 


2.    orFd7-_/5r*.  Is't  not  enough  to  heare  it  talked  of,  bat 
we  mult  come  and  fee  ir.a&ed  >  what  arc  thefe  Sacra* 
rncnts  theyfpeake  of,  but  fgms^  and fg«res $  and  by 
what  figure  can  they  make  us  bee  in  love  with  ftgnes .<? 
Or  fay  that  there  bee  feme  jj/>#»*#facrificcs  expe 
cted  of  us  by  our  God  $  may  wee  not  offer  them  with 
out  Hitter ijll Tabla  ?  yea  and  without  tn&ttriall  Chttr* 
clcs  :  on  therefore  U  'cftrrard\\ofoi  Salm.?.^  the  free 
Cofpell  of  New-England.  This  is  the  knowledge  ia 
Divinide  you  fo  much  pretend  to :  which,  wherefos* 
ver  you  firffc  learnt  it,  was  never  taught  you,  lam  Cure, 
tn  any  of  rhe  bookes  that  you  fubfcribed  to5  whcajtort 
came  tojourflace.  Wee  grant  that  thofc  two  llymms 
youfpcakcof,  are  of  excellent  life:  and  purpofclyfc- 
k*Ttcd  for  the  letting  forth  of  Codsprailc  and  ^lory, 
with  an  acknowledgement  of  our  boundcn  duties  to 
him, for  his  grace  and  goodne  flr.  But  then  the  Litur^ 
git  hath  taught  you,  that  the  Lcrds  Tabk  is  the  proper 
place  at  which  to  celebrate  the  memorie  of  our  Savi- 
fi.;Frs'itr.oftht  ours  padion :  k  which,  the  Prrcft  panting  at  the  fame, 
and  confecrating  there  the  creatures  of  bread  andvclm^ 
according  to  Ckrifts  loly  iuflitutioH,,  doth  reprefent 
unto  the  people.  And  when,  ia  tcftimonic  of  our 
common  and  publick  gratitude  for  fo  great  a  mercie, 
we  offer  our  whole  felrcsnutoblm,  both  foidc  andbody^ 
we  are  cnjoyned  to  doc  it  at  or  necrcthe  fame  place 
a^°-  l  AiiJ>mreOLor4wecQfftr4ii4 preftnt  unto  tlw, 
*.c<':»iHnitii.     our  fclvcj,  foidcs  and  bodies ;  here  where   thou  haft 
been  plcafed  to  make  us  partakers  of  Chifls  l-odie  and 
blond,  and  fealed  unto  our  foules  the  benefits  of  his 
death  and  padion.VVill  you  have  more?  The  m  Homi- 
&  hath  told  ii9,thar  *c  we  ere  bound  to  render  thankcs 
"  to  Alruightie  Cod  for  all  his  beneiics  bricfely  com- 

prifed 


Cap.  ^ 

eeprifed  in  the  death,  paffion,  and  refurre&jon  of  his 
"dcarely  beloved  So  me,the  which  tbingbecaule  wee 
cc  ought  chiefly  at  this  'table  co  folermize,  'marke  you 
that,this Table  >  )  the  godly  Firhers  named  ir  Eitckt- 
f(/&*3that  iSjthankfr.'iving    Had  I  but  fuch  a  Bandog, 
as  your  friend  H-  ff.  chis  Puritan  £//#  of  yours  niL'hc 
be  better  batted*  thin  his  Popes  Bull  was.  Your  Popifb 
t,imt>,  and  Puritan  Bu!J  being  both  difcarded  by  the 
Church,maygoe  both  together.  But  Imuft  cell  you 
erewepart5that  that  which  I  facetted  is  now  comi  to 
pajfe. viz. that  by  your  principles,  every  Cobler,  Tinker, 
and  other  Artizan,  may  take  his  tunic,  and  miaifter  ac, 
and  on  the  holy  Altar. 

That  which  you  flicvv  us  next  ,   is  but  another 
A?yo.«xv'*  »  a  qu-irrell  about  words  and  Phrafcs  5 
touching  the  ditference  becweene  n  commemoratio  (n)p,io4toS 
ftcrifirii)  and  a  commtmorrti've  facrijfce :  the  firft  be 
ing  iifed,  you  fay,  by  Chryfbflome,  K.  latusi,  and  Pet. 
tofftbardsS.dttfitt^EMfe&ittfjaid  the  bookeof  Homilies^ 
the  later  only  by  this  wretched  Doftor,  and  fuch  un 
lucky  birds  as  hec,  the  ragged  regiment  ofP.Lovibttrd. 
Which  faid,youprefently  confute  your  felfe3  as  your 
cuftomei^confedingthat  forae  *  firv  learned  mw  of  (o'p.xop 
tbs  nformedchxrch)  dot  ufi  the  name  of  a  Commcmora- 
five  Sacrifice*^  and  ycc  (God  bleffe  them)   arc  not 
brought  within  the  comnafle  of  thjt  raggtdre&itmnt* 
line  hereof  wee  have  (poke  already  in  the  former 
Chapter.  For  Sacrifices  K&X.)  you  cannot  poflible  ap 
prove  (which  P  Prot  eft  ants  and  Papifts  doe  joyntly  (p^p.io>, 
denie)  that  ever  mater  Jail  Altar  iras  ereftcd  in  the 
Church^  for  the  ufe  of  fyirituall  and  improper  fieri/fees. 
Aflurcdly  the  Paptfts  have  good  rcafbn  for  whaf  they 
doe  3  aad  if  you  grant  thcnuhispofiuoDj  fimplyj  and 

with* 


without  reftri&ion  $  you  gire  them  all  thac  they  de- 
fire.  For  by  this  meanestheygaine  unto  them  all  the 
Fathers,  who  fpcake  of  Altars:$af(m^  in  their  wcrkcs 
and  writings  •,  w^m#/4//4r/,queftionlefle}  made  of 
wood  or  ftone.  And  if  material/  Altars  were  noc 
nu'Je  for  improper  ficri/ictj^  you  muft  needcs  grant: 
they  had  Come  proper  f<trrifces  to  bee  pel-formed  up 
on  thofe  hltars  :  Befides,in  cafe  the  note  be  true5thac 


ijiccj  and  that  the  Sacrament  of  the  Lords 
Supper  bee  but  a  McttyhoricjU  and  iwprope  r  facrrfac, 
'<j)  p.i4*»        as  'i  you  elfewhcrc  f.iy  ^  ic  may  be  done  as  well  with 
out  a  wjtcriallTtibley  and  any  where  as  properly  as  in 
a  mate  riall  Church.  Did  youdiiUnguifh,  as  you  ought, 
betwcene  the  Wj^/W/facrifice  in  the  holy  EucharitV, 
commemorative  and  representative  of  our  Saviours 
death  •  and  thofe  fyiritxall  facrifices,  which  every 
Chrifti.m  man  is  bound  to  offer  to  the  Lord,  at  all 
tin.e'  and  places  :  you  would  finde  the  vanitie  and 
wtakene.Te  of  thefe  poore  Conclufions.  Yet  yougoe' 
forwards  ftill  on  a  full  carcere,  and  having  filled  your 
ninr^in  with  a  huddle  of  impertinent  quotations,  you 
fall  at  Uft  on  this  fine  fancie  :  «i  how  that  Cod  jtijjtred 
(<i;p.uo.        not  thcjnft  Aues  of  thcrrorlJ  for  1  6$o.  ycerts  fopa^e 
itvcay  without  prjyrrs  ,  and  thanksgivings  :  and  yet  he 
fujfred  it  topaffe  r.  i  iwtt  an}  Altars.  May  a  man  take  ic 
on  your  word,  and  noc  bee  called  for  it  toon  afterrec- 
koning  ^  Did  you  not  foy,the  Page  before,  that  Altar> 
PHeJt,  and  Sacrifice  were  relatives  >  und  finde  wee  not 
in  holy  writ  that  Cain  and  A£f/  biought  their  offrings 
to  the  Lord  their  God  ^  their  facrifaes  as  they  are  in. 
titulcd5f/^r.  i  i«4.if  fo3  then  by  your  owne  rule  doubt- 
lefle,-*chere  were  A^^r/^lfo.  Or  ifGodfufFered  all 

that 


that  time  to  paflc  without  any  Altar 3  $  diditnotpafle  Cap. 
away  without  any  Tables ,  or  any  Cfarrf/wthat  wee 
teadc  of?  But  fee  the  charitie  of  the  man,and  his  lear 
ning  too.   For  if  the  Do6or  will r  but  prornife  not  to  (i)  p.  t 
fiiflurbethe  peace  of  the  Ckttrch  <?*?/$y0/r,thisluftyLad 
of  Lincoln/litre  will  findc  him  all  thefcverall  Altars, 
which  have  bcene  fpoke  of  by  the  Fathers  for  QirituaU 
facrifces.  .Thefe  wee  fhall  meet  withal!  hereafter, 
amongftyour  impertinencies.  Meanetimc  I  pafTemy 
word  to  kcepe  covenant  with  you,  and  promife  you 
finccrcly  before  God  and  man^thatas  I  never  did,  fo  I 
never  will  put  my  hand  to  any  thing  by  which  the 
Church  may  bee  diflttrbed.  r  You  know  Elijahs  anfw ere  (tt  r. 
unco  proud  K.  Abab  j  //  is not I,  Ittt  ikouandthyfa-  zS-18 
the rj  Jioufe  that  have  troubled ibad* 

From  Altars  wee  muft  follow  you,  as  you  lead  the 
way5unto  the  facrifices  of  the  Altar.  ^A7he^eof  though 
wee  have  fpoken  before  enough  to  meet  with  all  your 
cavils:yetfinceyouputmetothequeftion9twhere  you  (t 
may  re  adz  this  tear  we  of»?i/Je,  Sacrifices  of  the  Altar^  if 
you  reade  not  of  them  in  the  Sacrifices  of  the  Law$  I 
will  tell  you  where.  Lookc  through  the  booke  of  Ge- 
ftefis^  and  tell  me  ifyou  meet  not  with  many  facrificcs, 
and  facrifices  done  on  Altars^  by  Abel.,  Noah^Afaaham, 
Jjcob  :  facrifices  of  the  Altar  ^  doubtleffe,  and  yet  noc 
Sacrifices  of  the  Law.  The  law  you  know  was  a  Pofi- 
«<//#fDnot  borne  a  longtime  after  thofegood  Patri- 
archj  died  ^  you  cite  the  Cardinal  rightly  5  that  all 
theficrificcs  which  wee  reade  of  in  the  Scriptnrc5vvere 
ueccflarily  to  beedcftroycd.But  prefcntly  you  change 
his  termes5andforhis  facrifices in  the  Scripturs^  put 
downe  your  facrifices  of  the  tare  ^  as  if  the  Scrip* 
ture  went  no  further  than  the  Law  of  Mofes.  If  in 

O  the 


the  ancient  Fathers  we  doc  not  finde  In  term'tatt,  the 
Gcrificeof  the  Altar ^  it  helpcs  but  litle  to  your  pur- 
pofc :  che  Doftour  no  where  faying  that  hee  had  it 
from  them.     And  if  they  call  it  not  fetowfoj^the/f « 
crifice'of  the  Altar,  they  call  it  fo  at  Icaft  cxconfe/iitcrt- 
tey  when  they  entitle  the  Lords  Supper  by  the  name 
of  Sacrifice  jtoA  fuch  zftcrifcc  as  is  to  bee  offered  on  a 
iacred  or  an  hallowed  Altar.   And  yet  to  fatisfie  your 
k>ngin«,it  (hall  bee  hard  but  wee  will  fmde  it  for  you 
amongft  the  Ancients ,  and  not  confult  the  InJtx  nei 
ther.  For. what  conceive  you  of  S.  Anflin^  was  not  hee 
an  Ancient  ? and  yet  hee  cals  ic  fo  /'/;  termini* ^  without 
doubt  or  fcruple.  Cum <rgoS<icr:ficii  five  Alt<trts\N,  B.\ 
fivequarKmcufoiMekcntofynirunti  &c.  in  thc-Facbiri- 
dion  a  d  Lay  re  fit  i  KM  ^  cap.i  ro.of  the  edition  of  Dan&ut. 
Nor  (hall  S.  ^itfln  goe  alone :  it  becing  called  fo  by 
u  .Bsjfjio  fuch  very  puifxejind  that  /'*  tertniriis  tcrmi* 
nn  «w/##f3whi<?h  is  that  you  frand  upon.  But  where  you 
in  adde3chat  poli:bly  the  Ancient  Fathers  could  not  have 
nny  nocice  °^  c^s  faer'fa*  °f*he  Aitar-^ x  and  for  a 
proofe  therof  produce  a  pafTige  from  Ar#flbivf:bc(idc* 
v/hat  hath  before  been  anfwered  to  the  place  it  felfe, 
the  Do£lor  cannot  chufe  but  tell  you,  that  you  have 
ufed  Arnobiu?  worfe ,  than  any  Gentile  would  have 
done.  ArnoUifs  was  notasked,as  you  put  the  queftion, 
What  are  you  Chrijllittt  to  performs  no  manner  offacri~ 
fees  at  all  t  but  whether  the  Ckriflla*t  thought  that 
no  fuch  tiling  as  fjcrificc  was  at  all  proper  to  the  Cods> 
gHldtr^at  Sacrificia  ceffjetis  nullafaciendas!  as  your 
margin  riglitly.  Nor  doth  krnobiiit  anfwere  to  the 
queftion,as  you  make  him  anfwer^^/  an} at  all:  as 
if  the  Chriftians  only  had  had  no  facrificcs,or  thought 
no  kindc  of  facrificc  to.  bee  a  fitting  fcrvice  for  the 


ir 


heavenly  powers :  but  ex  rarronk  veflri  fetttetitin, 
*##<*£  none,  if  wee  may  beleeve  your  ownc  Author 
Vtrro,  a  learned  man  amongft  yonrfelvc  .y  And  this 
he  makes  nounoftra,  none  of  our  opinion ;  though  you  ™>n  "oftrj^ 

n  r  i /i  i      •    i       i    \  !  I       •        I       ^i  VWOHU  vcftri 

moftfalfiy  make  ic  both  nis  and  ours,thatis,  the  Chri-  fc.urmia  re- 
fUansof  thofc  times.   You  muft  brin^  becrer  proofcs  Ji'ondwmujtr 
than  this>  or  elfc  it  will  be  podible  enough  chat  the  an 
cient  Fathers  might  take  notice  of  this  Sacrifice  of 
the  Altar:  which  is  the  matteryoudenie,  and  to  make 
good  your  negative,  have  thus  uftd  Antobin** 

But,asyoufay,  the  Dodor  hath  found  it  in  the  Bi 
ble  for  all  this,  Heb.  13.10.  Wet  Live  an  Altar  :  An.  i  fo 
have  you.  Doe  not  you  Made  k  in  the  Bible ,  as  well  as 
hec  ?  Yesi  but  you  know  rhe  meaning  of  ic  better  than 
any  Doctor  of  them  all  \  better  than  Doctor  Gentium, 
thanS.  "Paul  himfeUe;  u  Ftr  fa gwd filth,  fay  you,  a  if  . 

K  S.  Ptitfl  (liould  meanc  a  m-aterijH  Attar  for  the  Sacra, 
"ment  in  that  place  (with  reverence  to  fuchachofen 
t;  Vefiellof  the  Holy  Ghoft,  bee  it  fpoken)  it  would 
fc  prove  the  weakeft  arnument  that  was  ever  made  by 
<c  foftron^  an  Artift.  Which  faid ,  you  dcfcant  on.  ic 
thus:  "  Wee  have  an  hltar  and  a  Sacrifice  of  the 
Cl  Atfttr  5  that  you  of  the  Circumcifion  may  not  par- 
ec  take  of.  And  have  you  fo?  That  is  no  great  won- 
Cc  der  faith  the  lew,  when  abundance  of  you  Chrijliavs 
<f(the  difcipline  of  your  Church  being  fo  fevcrc)  may 
<e  not  partake  thereof  your  felves.  And  therefore  you 
conclude,  lc  That  for  S.  Pautto  fright  the  Iwes  with 
cc  the  loflc  of  that,  which  fo  many  millions  of  Chrifli- 
<cans  were  themfelves  bereaved  of,  hadbeenea  very 
cc  weake  and  feeble  dehortation.  Is  not  this  {>  pomrc 
os  in  cxlurn^  to  out-face  heaven  it  felfe,  in  calling  thus 
in  queftion  the  judgement  and  difcretion  of  that  great 

O  2  Apople  : 


(.80) 

jp  •>/?/< :  T1*  f  u'u  c/3  0  /war*}  what  art  th  on  O  man,  that 
thou  fhouldeft  dare  toldifputc  with  /W,and  that  upon 
fuch  weake  and  feeble  grounds  ?  For  good  Sir,  tell  me 
\vhcre  you  finde  that  thofe  degrees  youfpeakeof,and 
that  ywJ&ii  us  rii  iwtAww  S  '*"  creefi*&9*  with 
time  and  leisure  unto  the  bo  fax  of  the  church  ;  were 
knowne  or  praftifed  in  the  time  of  this  Jpoflle .«?  Think 
you  the  difcipline  of  the  Church  was  growne  to  that 
fevericy  in  fo  fhorc  aimc ,  as  that  the  Ictves  rnisht  turn 
it  back  upon  S.  P^///3  to  elude  his  Argument?  That  ri 
gour,  thofe  degrees,  were  never  heard  of  in  the 
Church, till  along  time  after,  though  by  you  made 
as  old  as  the  faith  ic  felfc :  there  being  mention  in  the 
*^8s  of  many  famMics  baptized ,  not  a  few  thoufands 
of  particular  perfons,  which  did  not  runne through 
all  thofe  wcaiifomc  v/aycs,  before  they  were  admitted 
to  the  blefled  Sacrament.  Or  were  it  that  thofe  wea- 
rifonie  wayes  were  travailed  by  the  CkrifHsnt  in  the 
Jpofiles  time?before  they  were  admitted  to  the  Sacra 
ment,  yet  were  this  butaforry  anfwereto  his.Argu- 
ment,  how  d  weake  foever  you  conceive  it.  The  A- 
P°ftles  argument  is  tt  jure,  of  a  right  to  eat  -,  your  an- 
(were  is  dt  faff* ,  of  the  aft  of  eating.  Thofe  of  the 
CircumciGon  hadno  right  to  cat  of  the  Chriftians 
Alt  At  i  fimply  and  absolutely  no  ri^htat  all.  The  Ini- 
Hati  had  a  kind  of  right  j\vf  a  good  jits  drmjhaugh 
in  re  they  hid  not,  and  to  this  jus  in  re  they  tended  by 
thofe  fteps  and  degrees  yontalke  of.  Became  a  ftran- 
ger  hath  uo.rigkt  to  my  lands,  have  my  children  none  ? 
and  yet  my  childrenmuft  £?3y/£kiv,tarrieawhile,cx« 
peft  their  time,  before  they  enter  into  a&uall  poflcfli* 
on  of  them.  What  a  Coliah  have  we  hereto  encoun 
ter  DtK)iJ3  what  a  TrttnUus  have  we  found,  todifpute 

with 


with  Paul;  what  a  *Ctrintlwsy  to  rmkc  headagainft     Cap.<5. 
S.Peter:  ve:  left  S./Wfhouldgoc  alone,  you  let  us  j>)rP.|P!l*!«  a 

.  J  ,      r       i  .  .  •  j  I        I*.    Jib.i.lwel.iS 

have  £.AMr/w/etobeare  him  compile:  and  hard  ic  n,t 
is  to  fay  which  of  die  two  you  nfe  moft  courfly.  You 
taxeS.  /V///  with  weaknefie,  but  yet  you  doc  it  with  a 
fahartverwlia,  and  with  a  rcvcreurdc  itjpplgff.  S. 
hmbrofe  findcs  not  in  you  fo  much  good  manners, 
whom  you  have  falsified  cfpurpofe  to  make  the  Apo- 
ftlcs  argument  as  weake,  as  you  fay  it  is.  For  thus  you 
fliut  up  your  Centura   (or  if  you  pleafc  yonr  t^.^.V 
^v)  of  the  blefled  Apoftlc.  f  / nv7/  conehiJe  rrith  S.  (Or»»*J- 
Ambrofc5T'/w/  wehdvetMthivgviJible  In  all  tUfdiftu- 
laiion ofS.Paul.ffeifber  Frkftjtorfiicrificc^nor  hhjr : 
And  then  produce  him  in  your  m.irpjn,  faying,  Ntktt 
hhviflrile.fte.pic  Sjccrdatpejitifiicrijiciuifr*  t.'C'juc  A/- 
A;;r,  iaiQty.ailltebr.  How  you  have falfilicd  S.  A///- 
lro\e^  by  turning  HwttW)  into  Hic^ » v/ce  have  fhewne  (^)seeti-efo 
before.  The  Father  fpeakcs  there  onely  otftirifMtt  mercb*i>tert 
facrJfocs^  and  you  will  turn e  his  kcrifw  into  /.'/>,  as  if 
he  fpoke  there  onc'y  of  the  Mjflicall  facrifice.  And 
v/creit/>/V  in  the  original]  ot  S.  A////T0/?,  yet  you  arc 
guiltic  of  another  falrtiood  jgainft  tha:  Father,  by  rcn- 
dring  ir,/V/  all  this  difyiitathn.  The  Fachers  «'vV:  if  hee 
had  fiidfo,  muft  have  related  to  thofe  points  \vliich 
were  debated  ofjin  the  i  o,Chapt.tothc  //f^Xv.'hcncc 
the  words  were  cited-,  and  thofe  fpiritu.ill  ficrihVcs., 
which  arc  there  defcribcd,you^by  an  excellent  Art  of 
juggling,  have  with  a  Hocas  /'£>/:•»  brought  it  hither, 
and  make  us  thinke  it  was  intended  for  this  /•/.-,  r!,i* 
place^^.ij.io.ofwhichnowwe  f^cakc,  and  v.-hich 
hath  been  the  ground  of  that  ilifyutJthtt,  \v!:i;!iycj 
conclude  \vith,from  SAwbrofi. 
Vfing  the  bpoflle,  and  the  J-W/wj-  in  fo  foule  a  f!i- 

O  3  fliiois, 


2. 


nti- 


•         08*) 

fniorij  it  is  not  to  bcc  thought  you  fliould  deale  more 
bgcnioufly  with  their  Dlfiiples.  The  fervanc  is  not 
above  the  Matter 5  nor  lookes  for  betterufagefrom 
you-jtnan  hee  hath  done  iiichcrto.  Having  concluded  -  <-. 
xvitfxS.Atfrf/v/fj  }our  next  aflault  is  on  the  Doctor: 
v.'horn  you  h  report  to  be  the  ///•/? '  foane  of  the  reformed 
church  oj'En^l.ind)  thitt  hath  preformed  flpea/j  to  ex- 
pouutJthjfp/iK'Cof  d  vhit cri all  Altar  '^  TSot  con^antly^ 
you  fay ,  but  yet  fo  expounded  it.    I  bcfcech  you, 
whercrNot  in  the  Coal  frow  the  /tf/^/^there  is  nofuch 
matter.  Take  the  words  plainly  as  they  lie,  youfhal! 
finde  thorn  thus.  **  And  shove  allinJeed9  S.Pitid'm  his 
"Habetaus  'lltare*Hcb*\$*iQ,  In  which  place  whether 
ct  he  meane  the  Lords  Table,  or  the  Lords  Supper,  or 
"  rather  the  facrifice  it  felfe,  which  the  Lord  once  of, 
<cfreedj  certaine  it  is,  that  he  conceived  the  nanie  of 
w  v7//./v5neither  to  be  impertinent  nor  improper  in  the 
ChriiVian  Church.  Finde  you  that  hee  expounds  the 
place  of  a  material!  Alfsir  ?  or  that  hee  oaejy  doth  re, 
pent  three  feverall  expofidons  of  it  ?  Now  of  thofe 
expcfitions.one  was  this,  that  by  thofe  words,  rre  have 
aaAltjf,  S  /',//// nii^ht  mean  wee  have  a  Table^  where 
of  it  was  not  lawfull  for  them  to  eate,  that  fervethe 
1'alcrtMcle.  If  this  bee  the  materiallislltar^  that  you 
complune  of  in  the  Doctors  expcfirim  -afiu  redly  hee 
is  not  the  firftfonne;by  many  of  the  Church  of  Eng- 
Ian d,that  hath  fo  expounded  it.  The  learned  B;fhop 
'  sln.irerccs  doth  expound  it  fo.  1'he  Alcar  //;  the  oil 
1c(lttMct;i  irly  Malachi  cv/.^r/iMenfi  Domini.  And  of 
th'f  Table  w  the  new  Tfftjrutnt,  by  the  Aptfffc  it  is  fiid, 
lljlwjws  Mt.irc:  which  v.'heth-  r  it  be  of  ftoneas  fyf- 
fcK  ^  or  ot  \voodj  as  Optaiits..  it    'v'.ls  nor.  So  da:h  my 
Lord  of  Llxcsln  alfo3  oue  o»~  cl^  fonnt?,  Itiow.  of 


1 

the  Church  of  England.  Citing  thofc  words  of  Bifhop 

h.nJrcwis>  k  you  addeimmediatly,  that  this  ische  ex-  (V.jMio, 

poficionof  P.  Martyr  mentioned  in  the  letter  (;>.my 

Lord  of  Lincoln*  letter  to  the  Vicar  of  Gr,iKth.:ff*) 

that  asfimetiwes  a  Table  /r  />//*  /»r  </#  Altar,  //.<  /;/  //;c 

j%?  0/MaIachi  :  fofomelimes  tin  Altar  /VA/>  le<:  put  for  a 

T  able  &  iff  thifEp/ftttfo  the  Hebrcwes.  Ncxc  Icoke 

into  the  BiHiop  of  «'.  /vV/'i/iYr,  '  \vhoplainly  eels  you,  (hA     j,,^. 

(<>  that  the  Lords  Table  Iwth  bccnc  called  ^»j«Gtr-'iri;y  farcm.i».*3tf. 

cefromtl:c  beginning  $  not,  as  fonic  fa  IHy  teach,  'by 

cc  (ucceeding  Fathers  :  andtli.'.r^,  /vWhimfelfe  may 

"feemc  to  liave  given  authorkie  and  warrant  to  the 

Phrafe,  'Heir.  1  3.10.  The  Doftor  is  not  then  the  firft 

fonnc  of  the  CInuvIi  of  Kngland9th;it  harh  fo  cvpoun- 

r.ledir.  Or  if  he  were,  hce  hath  a  fccond,  but  fuch  a 

fccond  as  is  indeed  Nulli  fccundus  ,  for  fonie  things 

tliat  I  could  tell  you  of,  even  your  good  friend  the 

M/nifter  of  Uncclnfiire  ,  one  of  the  children  of  the 

Church,  that  writ  the  booke  intituled  the  HoI}T*ble, 

For  presently  upon  the  Bifhop  oftittcolns  [zlolTc,  hcc 

addes  m  this  fie  proprfa)  tkw  the  rrlich  folttthn  there  (no)p.uo. 

;;///;  keperadventttrea  more  fytt^  but  there  can  >ot  Ice 

A  more  p/J/nc  and  concciveable  <w  fiver.   I  fee  you  can 

make  life  fometimes  of  a/eaJcv  djzzer*  "  thoui'h,  as  , 

,  11'  -n  '  (n)J«f/Sw« 

you-tell  us,  throwneaway  by  the  very  V*\ifs\  yet  ifc»/ifc»»« 

not  fo  utterly  thrown  c  away,  fas  within  two  leaves  af- 
ter  you  are  pleafed  ro  cell  us)  butrharirisi^ill  worne 


;//j7V  'iaitf^Cos'flo»^MeftOfhiifs9  (  and  dij^tja)  of  which  (  "  /  i1- 
fome  are  ycr  Jiving,  for  ouijht  I  can  hearc.  Nor  doth 
your  Authour  fiy.it  is  throirne  airjy^  as  if  not  (li  vice- 
able  to  this  purpofe:  plait  onely  that  non  d:\itxt  tx  f  ^^ 

isfQmz  of  the  Catholirk  writer?  doe  cxpcund  N:i:ia.I.i  c. 
04  it 


2. 

itothcrwife,  I  hope  you  would  not  have  all  Texts  of 

Scripture  to  bee  caft  av;ay  like  lejden  Daggers,  be- 
caule  i  N0#  c'efiwt  ex  catholicity  fomc  one  or  other 
learned  nun  pve  foe  Si  expeditions  of  them,  as  arcnoc 
every  way  agreeable  unto  yours  and  mine. 

Now  as  the  Defter  wasthe/'V//  Soiweof  the  Church' 
r«  0/Etfg/./*,/,  fb  r;as  £A/tf//«f  1  t  he JirftlJ'yifer  before  the 
"Reformation. that  tit  eraHy. and  lathe  firft  pface  di.llenl 
this  text  to  the  materliill  At  far.  Jutl  fo  I  promife 
you,  and  no  cthcrwife.  Or  had  SeJulitfs  beene  the 
firttj  the  expofition  had  not  beene  (bmcdernc,  buc 
rhatitmi^htlay  claimcto  a  fiire  antiquity.  Sednlius 
Jived  To  nearc  S.  f^ttf'w^  that  he  might  fecmc  to  tread 
on  his  vcryheclcs;  tlie  one  being  placed  by  EcUar* 
7///w. /7//.42Q.  the  other  ^^,430.  but  ccnyearcs  after. 
And  if  the  Cardinals  note '  be  true,  thar  he  excerpted 
al1  his nore5  on  S-/V;//J Epiftlcs5from 0//i'w,  titubrofi 
Hreroff/ ,  and  httftin:  for  oughtlknow,  hiscxpofiti- 
on  of  the  pl.icc  may  bee  as  old,  as  any  other  whatfoe- 
ver-  But  for  ^/////V«-  (whercfoeverhchadit)chushc 
clearcs  the  place  :  f  lljbtmiu  NospJeks  Altare,  prtter 

^jtarc  ittdforum ,  nude  carpus  &.  fanguinem  Lhrtfti 
ll)ln locum.  .      *— .      r  .  ,  (-  ,,  u  A  ;^ 

participayws  :  i.  e.  1  he  ^aicntuJI  nave  an  hltaryyct  not 
the  -frnv//'  A//«/r  neirher,fr<:m  whence  they  doe  parti 
cipate  of  Chnfts  body  and  blood:  '  Ii.it  is  plain  enough, 
and  yet  no  pliiner  tli.in  §.Chryfoft.  thoniih  you  have 
d  ukcned  h  ni  as  much  as  pofl]blyyoucan,toabufethe 
Ct'r-u-.  F.ulicr.  (  /J^/<T/?^///^  expounds  it  (as  you  fry)  of  r^ 
tr::2  >'«?!)  ofthethitg*  profeffed  here  aniougft  us:  for 
proofe  whereof  you  bring  wGecHmcttittf  \vith  his^a- 
cxT/^'-T'i??  the  Tenets*  asitnrrc^  of  chritthinwtn.  So 
iliacifyounuybe  bekcvrd,  the  Father,  ntidliis  fc- 
com!,  doc  expound  die  plj^'o..  of  the  DoftrinCj  Te 
nets, 


.  .  •        r          •<••     • 

uerCVew    t/rav  The  wordsyouUe,pu«:  neutrally,  and 
fo  rranfla;ed  in  theLatine,  Nov  entm  qttaliafunt  apt:d 
Ji.'dsos,  tiilia  etiam  nofra  font :  That  is,as  I  conceive 
Iiir  meaning,  our  fccrijices ,  or  our  Sacraments  arc 
no:  fuch  as  the  7e<r(/7;  \verc,^r  ^//</r  not  fuch  as  their?., 
ncr  any  of  our  R'tes  thereunto  belonging.  My  rcafon 
is,  becaufeitfollowethin  the  Father,  ^  //jiA^ovjr 
ftTS-e/tis  M»*i/em'#W'/r£»S  fo  th  it  it  is  not  hwfiill, 
no  not  to  the  Hig h-.'  r/c/t  liimfclfe.,toparrake  thereof. 
Of  what  I  pray  you?  Not  of  the  things  profdTedin  the 
Chrtfiian  <~ljttrchl  \  hope  you  will  nocfiy,buck  was 
lawful!  to  the  Pricfts  to  be  partake  rs  of  the  doctrine  of 
our  Lord  and  Saviour.  Why  did  the  Apoftles  preach 
unto  the  Ierrest  in  cufc  it  were  nor  lawfdll  for  them  to 
make  profcllion  of  the  Faith?  Therefore  the  Father 
ivmft  needs  meane  the  Cbrijtians  fatrifices}  (  perfor 
med  upon  the  Altar  which  the  Apoftle  fpeakesoQof 
which  it  was  not  lawful!  for  the  High  Pricfl  (conri- 
nuin^  as  hee  was//^/>  Prf^to  bo  partaker.  And  this 
I  take  the  rather  to  have  beene  his  meaning,  becaufe  t 
Tkeopkjlj&  who  fo]lov/edC/j^/7^v;<rfocxaCTlyy,that  /? 
hee  doth  feeme  to  have  abridged  liim  ^doth  thus  dcf-  *ft»titcj»s  a!.-- 
cant  on  it.  «  r-xuAv  tw  >    €**•  Having  before  far!  ^^^ 
"(v.  9. )  that  no  regard  was  to  be  had  of  meats,  Icll  fir-tt.L«i. 
cc  our  owhe  Ordinances  [  Tx  M(«uTo*'J    ivight   bee 
C; thought  contemptible,  as  things  uoobfcrvcd)  hee 
Ctaddes,  that  wee  have  Ordinances  of  our  own,'  'zr\ 


Sect.  2, 


th:  ti'j 
0.17. 


"{ice  of  ckrijls  quickning  body.  Of  which,  which 
tcfacrin~ce  [rctorrUyx?  \  it  is  not  lawfull  for  the 
cc  priefs  to  be  partakers,  as  long  as  they  doe  fervice  to 
<e  the  Ta&erttM/ey.t.thc  legall  ilgnesandfliacowj.Thc 
like  fdkh  a!fo  Qecinmniui  with  hisTrafxTvi/io-su,  which 
you  have  cnglifhed  Tenets,  with  the  like  felicitie,  as 
you  dU  the  rl  trap  ^iv  in  Cktyjojt.  Ft  r  Cccinncnius 
laying  dsT/r0/>/i>'/rfl/  had  done  before,  becaufl  the  A- 
poillc  had  airuriicd, tc  That  no  regard  was  to  be  had 

L  i        £  C  I  JJ  I          \         »     r        'v      *         »/ 

cc  ^,v  watcaTM|«ffi»si  ^nd  have  not  wealioourowneCJr- 
c<  dinances  or  obfervations  ?  To  which  hee  anfwcrs, 
"  with  TLcopIylact^  but  a  great  deale  plainer,  Yes.,  tt'A\' 

6f  *     n          '  '        '         "*  ^        *     "*  '  (T 

<:  meats,  but  of  our  ^//</r.   If  you  gee  downeward  to 

the  LitfzneSj  they  are  cleareasday.  Hajwo  who  lived 

about  the  yeares^o.  affirmes  exj.  rcfly  on  the  place, 

silt  are  (cckfa  eft^Hbiqitotidic  corpus  confccratttr  '  Iri- 

fi$  that  is  the  ////si*  ot the  Church,  whereon  the  lo« 

cly  of  Chijt  is  diiily  confecrated.  And  Co  Rc0tigi/u9\vho 

livcd^and  writ  about  thpfc  times  ^  Httlxmtts  ergo  Aitare 

Ecclefa^  ubi  confccratHr  corpus  Dominica m  ^  the  fame 

infenfe,thonghnocin  words.with  th:tof//^;w<?.Thh, 

DoLtor  F///(fvalmoft  a?grcit  a  clctfy  as  you9conccivc8 

to  bee  fo  really  intended  by  OefifMeffi/ttsindHeijwo99 

that  hee  reports,  that  they  did  dote  upon  the  place  • 

even  as  you  fay  b ,  the  Doftcr  melts  upon  tie  place. 

But  fay  you  what  you  will.  As  long  as  he  can  back  ic 

with  fo  good  authority  ,  the  Defter  will  make  more 

of  Jtakwits  ////<f»r,than  before  hccdid  \  thougli  you 

iliouM  r.iiCe  loin  M'pot  from  the  dead  to  expound  it 

othciAvife  ^  as  we  are  told  he  did  in  the  Afts  and  Mon- 

f>  90.  of  your  holjTablt. 

From 


0*7) 

From  the  ApoftlesTexr,  both™  &  nomine  >  pro-  Cap.'  6. 
cecd  wee  to  the  Apoftlcs  CJWM  ,  nomine  at  the  lead, 
if  not  r<»  alfo  5  which,  if  not  writ  by  them ,  arc  by  the 
Doctor  fold  to  bee  of  good  antiquity^  nor  doe  you  de 
ny  ic :  Oncly  you  fling  them  off"  with  a  Sihoole-boyw 
jelt  c  3  affirming  confidently,  that  all  good   Shollcrs  Wp.i/o. 
reckon  thofc  CV/wtfj  but  as fo  many  Tot -lytvws.  Noc 
all  good  Schollers  certainly  jyou  are  out  in  that.  Whac 
thinke  you  of  my  Lord  QiChickefkr  ,  of  xvhom  the 
Doctor  and  theMiaifterof  Li»f.tooA  MttftreUlearffc  WF*** 
(K  faffg  as  they  live?  He,  a  good  Scholler  in  your  owne 
confclfion,  dothnot  alone  call  them  the  Apoftlcs  Ca 
nons  ,  e  butcitesthc  4o.of  them,  as  afulland  ftrong  (c}prcf.,ee f« 
authority  to  prove,that  by  the  ancient  Canons  Church-  M- Iu- 
men  had  leave  to  give  5  and  bequeath  their  Goods  and  p' f3' 
Chattels  by  their  laft  Will  and  Teftamcnt.  And  this, 
in  his  reply  unto  lo.  5ff/.y«#,whorii  hee  knew  too  well, 
to  thinke  hee  would  give  back  at  the  report  or  blow 
of  a  Schoole-boyes  P^-^//;/^.Ncxt.,whcrc  thofe  three 
Canons  that  the  Dovtor  cited,  doc  fpeakefo  clearly 
of  the  Altar  i  and  that  by  the  fame  name  ^w{x7-«coy . 
n fed  by  the  Apoftle  to  the  Hebrews  9  that  there  is  no 
denial!  of  it ,  you  flie  unto  your  wonted  refuge,  a 
fcornfull  and  prophane  derifion  :  *  Hee  that  full  read,  (, 
fay  you  3  what  is  prefented  on  thefc  Alt  AYS  for  the  ^P>1 
maintenance  of  the  Bifliopand  his  Clcrgie,  will  con. 
ceive  them  rather  to  '^eefo  many  Pantries,  Ltrders, 
ot  Store- fjoufesy  than  confecrated  Altars.»QCurv£in  Sa:<1- 
terrh  aniwx,  &  cvlrJllHW  injms  !  So  dend  a  foulc,  fo 
void  of  all  ccdcftiall  impreffiom ,  did  I  never  meet 
with.    I  am  confirmed  now  more  than  ever,  for  the 
tied  Author  of  the  T>rcffer\  othcrwife  you  had  never 
Lx  en^  flowed  and  Ihc/t^d  to  call  it  as  you  doc,  a  PM+  ' 

trh 


(,88) 


.  1<  *w  ?  or  a  tar  iky  ^  and  a  Storeboufe.  I  fee  there  is  good 
provifion  tov/ardsj  and  as  much  devotion.  Your  P/ge~ 

(«;C.ip.».  '  on-koufc  wee  have  fecnc  already  °  9  and  Pottage  you 
will  fcrvc  in  prcfently,  if  we  can  be  e  patient.  Larders 
we  luvc?  and  Sforc-fw/feSfind  Pafffr/es^wlnch  portend 
^ood  chcure.  Thinke  yon  a  man  that  heares  yon  calke 
thus  5  would  not  conceive  your  Kiictin  were  your 
CfMppcll$t\ic  Drcjj'er  in  the  fame,  your  High -Altar ; 
ami  that  your  Urjuiew  Attars  v/erc  your  Larder^  PJK- 
ti-jc  and  Stor.c-l:o:/je$  Get  but  a  Coolie  to  bee  your 
Chaplainc,  and  on  my  life.  Counts  the  oM  belJy  god 
amonj;ft  the  Gcutilts  ,  \va5ncverDcrificeduntowith 
fucii  propiiety  ofrte/tfi/s^ndikh  magnificence.asyou 

(i«;  Q^iormn     will  facrifice  every  day  to  your1'  god,  yoarEflfy.  Nor 

DcustA  vcii'  need  you  fearethat  your  cftate  will  not  holdout :  I 
know  you  arc  a  provident  Gentk  man,  and  make  your 
Altars  bring  you  in,  what  )our  Altars  fpend  you. 

COJp.io.  For  fay  you  not  in  that  which  followeth ,  'that  Jit- 
d.:s  bis  bagge  v:at  with  as  good  f€dfo»t  asthcfe  Tables, 
Ice  called  an  Altar  ?  1  v/ondcr  what  fine  adjunct 
you  will  fifide  out  next.  You  cannot  probably  goe 
on ,  and  net  fee  downe  a<l  mcttfiim  dtfmoniontM^ 
that  Table  of  Devils  which  Saint  P./«/  fpeakcs  of. 
litdjs  Lit  httzge?  juft  fo,  yet  you  would  fhifc  this 
off  unto  Earonius  3  as  you  have  done  the  Dr^JJer 
on  the  rndc  people  of  Granthaot.  "Baronius  *  as  you 

(:0  '\»P  A  <?  ^5  inirb'ccn  ir>  Doth  he  Co  indeed  ?  A 11  that  F.arcniu* 
faith,  is  this, k  that  thofe  v/ho  miniitred  in  the  Church, 
drd  from  the  llrft  beginnings  of  the  Church  receive 
their  maintenance  from  the  oblations  of  the  faithfnll. 
JwMocttw  iiJtwc-Dominus  f/tpcrffcj  &c*  And  that  the 
Lord  liin:fdfe  when  lie  preached  the  GVjj«//5ufctI  from 
»!\clc  offerings  to  provide  for  hiiufclfc  and  Lis.  For 


(«80)  Csp. 

Into*  (  faith  S.  /0£*)bearin g  the  bagge3E</  £»<£  or///** 
bantur,  fortabat,  did  carrie  up  and  dbv/re  that  ftore 
which  was  fent  in  to  him.  What  fay  you  ?  doth  the 
Cardinal  limply  in  this,  that  ludu  his  bagge  may  wrh 
good  f  eafon  (  any  how)  be  called  an  Altar?  Take  heed 
of  Intljs  and  his  bagge^  of  ludas  and  his  qit titties  5  for 
feare  you  come  unto  that  end  chat  lttd*s  did. 

Youranfwers  to  the  Do&ors  allegations  from  7g- 
»^/;^muft  bee  looked  on  next.  And  firft  the  Doctor 
findes  .  i\Jwi*s~*>ct9v  one  ^//rffjin  his  Epiftle  ad  Mag" 
mjios.    l  You  anfvver  firft  ?  that  by  Vcdclins  this  is 
thought  to  be  <*  fuppofititioHs  fragment  taken  out  of 
the  conftitutiots  of  Clemens  :  and  yet  proclaitne  it  in 
your  margin  ^  that  this  doth  not  appeare  fo  chartly  to 
jou ,  as  to  reft  upon  it.  You  anfwere  fecondly^that  this 
was  brought  in  by  the  Dotfor  only  to  ma}\t  fporf.  Ho\v 
fo?  BtC3ufc,fay  you,  the  Altar  there,  is  lefits  chrtft. 
In  that  before,you  le^t  Vedelfaiy  your  good  fricnd  and 
helper  in  all  this  bufinelfe  $  and  here  he  leaves  you,  to . 
cry  quits.     Searching  as  curioufly  as  hee  could,  whac 
to  except  againft  in  allthefe  Epiftles,  he  lets  this  goe 
by.  A  pregnant  evidence  that  hee  knew  not  what  to 
fay  againft  it.  Runne,  faich  the  Father,  nil  of  you  as 
one  man  to  the  Temple  of  God,  us  'Cm  tv  <H«jj*T>)pr 
ov^  '^rb  tvct  I*iff5v  XpiT-ov  3  as  to  one  Altar^  to  one  Ii'Ji/s 
1  Chrilt :  i.  c,  fay  you,  who  better  underftood  the  Fa 
ther,  than  hee  did  himfelfe  ^  rvnne  aH  of  you  to  one  le 
fts  Chrift  ,  as  to  one  Altar.    This  is  your  old  trick  to 
abufe  your  Readers,  and  make  your  Authors  fpeak 
what  they  never  meant.   The  Father  fpakc  before 
of  prayer,  of  commr  n  prayers  to  beepowred  forth 
, by  all  tkc  people, '^bv  T}  ^,jr\  in  the  fclfc  fame  place, 
in  faith  and  love.  An<i  then  exhorti  them  to  ruhnc 

together 


. 


(ipo) 

Scdt.  2.     together  to  the  Church  to  pray,  as  to  one  Alttr,  to 
participate,  as  to  one  lefts  Chrift,  the  High  Pricft  of 
all.  Had  it  bccnc  'finfi  ^unairxipiov  TO»  Jy<rtTv  Xfiy-ov, 
the  rn  \ttcr  had    beene  clecrc  on  your  fide.   Butthe 
clifunftion  and  repeating  of  the  prcpofition,  the  *&J 
e'y   and  'fini'i*  5  make  a  different  bufineffe.  Thefe- 
ccnd  place  produced  by  the  Doftor  from  Ignatius^ 
!j  was    that    (m)  of  fc*»   ^wix-r^iof    •XtL&i  TV!  £x.xA«(r{'cf 
\vhere  hec  makes  mention  of  the  unity  tHac  ought  to 
bee  retained  iu  the  Church  of  God  ^  and  then  brings 
inamongftche  reft,  one Ertad  broke  for  all,  cncCup 
diftributed  to  all ,  one  Altar  alfo  in  every  Church, 
together  with  one  Bijf.wp^c.  To  this  you  anfwer, 
that  in  the  place  to  the  P/77^y/?/>/V/7.r?hcedoth  ex- 
prcfle  himfelfe  to  meane  by  Mtar  3  fiyAw  off^vj^ 
exx-AvKr'^  3   the  Couxctlloftht  Saints ,  and  (hitrch  in 
generali^tnd  not  any  material!  Altar yis  rcddiut  proves 
at  large.  And  doth  he  fo  indeed  ?  That  paifage  which 
you  fpcake  of,  touching  your  @^  'Offl^  •>  the  Coun- 
fell  of  tie  Saints  and    Church  in  gcneraU ',  is  in  the 
Epiftle  adEphcfoj.   And  doe  youthinke  hcctelsthc 
Ephzfum ,  what  hee  did  meane  by  Alfar,  in  his  E- 
piftle  to  the  Phihdelphians  .<*  This  is  juft  like  the 
Germans  beating  downe    of  hltars ,   becaufc   the 
people  here  in  F/;<*/«/#./ were  fcandali/ed  with  them 
in  our  countrcy  Churches.  Then  for  rc.V?//'«/,proves 
liee  3  as  you  rfirme,  that  by  hltar  here,  in  the  E- 
fiftJe   to   the  Yhihdelphijnf ,  Ignatius  meanes  not 
any  maceriall  A//^,  buc  the  Conncellofthe  Saints^ 
the  Church  ivgenerall?  In  the  Epittleto  theEphcJians 
liee  doth  indeed  correct  tnt&nificttty  your  own  phrafc 
is  )and  pl.iy  the  Critick  with  the  Author  5  making 
birafay,  \,  /2vA>TO'  c^'wvj  for  ty/2vA)T  frouh*  whereof 

we 


weelhall  fay  more  hcreafccr  in  our  perftnll  andcx-i  Cap 
animation  of  your  Extravagancies.  Buc  in  this  place 
hce  dealcs  more  fairely,  andunderftandshim  as  the 
Doffcor  doth  :  for  reckoning  up  foure  kindes^of  Altars 
in  the  Primitive  Ghurch,  he  makes  the  fourth  and  lalt 
to  bee  msrtft  Doml/tij  qua  utcbjnturjn  pcra'cccnaper* 
agcrtct*  ,  the  table  of  the  Lord,  ufed  in  die  celebrating 
of  the  holy  Supper.  Thenaddes,  that(n)  fomeumes  ,„» 

t        i      n     i  i  •    _•  r  f  •       i/«        ii     i         A  »  i   (n; 

5  and  fam 


t        i      n     i  i  •    _•  r  f  •       i/«        ii     i         A 

by  the  Fathers,  this  Table  is  allo  called  an  A/ 

for  the  proofe  thereof  brings  in  this  ^  3-^1*5-  ^cir;  e-'rjum  eti-mi 

srx^?  T?  lutAu^V,  which  the  Doftor   mentioned. 

So  that  you  have  belied  the  Father  and  your  friend 

to  boon.  Laftly,  for  that  of  ^jxr'ipjov  >«Sf  f  Gods  hltary 

in  his  Epiftle  ad  rarfenfes^hc  whole  place  is  this.   T^$ 

ty   tttLftmof*  &?•  Thofc  tint  continue  in  the  (late  of 

Virginitit  ,  honour  yce  as  the  Prietts  ofCbrifl  ;  r^ 

€%v<r2itvoT«1»  ^?*^5  «$  ^uirixr^fuv  %«*  thofe.  which  arc 
nj/V^jfpw  indeed  ?  (in  the  Apoitles  language)or  which 
(")  uphold  tbsir  ehafttyfasyovu:  felfe  tranilares  ic)ho- 
nouryceas  the  A//^rof  God,  and  not  the  Alfjrs  of 
God,  in  the  plurall  number,  as  you  tranflate  itpur- 
pofely  to  advance  your  ends.  Tliefe  are  his  words 
diftin&ly  ,  and  what  find  you  here?Marry  you  fay,fome 


n>it<)  all  :  and  tint  the  A//.;r  there  intended  becomes 
much  better  ths  upper  evJof  hii  Table,  than  the  upper- 
eid  of  his  Church  ^  aplamzTeidow-kltar^  Which  fciJ, 
you  bringinone  of  youcyoitvgScbttl/trj  vvithaA/rvVy 
Efigrttxme)  unfit  to  bee  infected  into  anybookeofu 
ferious  Argument  ;  buc  more  unfit  to  bee  approvi'dt 
AUomd^andlicenfed.by  any  Ordlnarie:  But  Sir3however 
you  are  pleafcd  to  make  your  felfe  prophanely  merry 
in  thcfe  facred  mattcrs^the  place  is  plaine  enough  to- 
prove  aa  Altar  5  and  more  thanfo3  a  reverence  due 

unto 


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it.  Ann: 

propc 


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p.  iS 


onto  the  AItar,in  Ignatius  time  •  the  men  of  7Vr/Sr/be« 
ing  here  advifcd  to  honor  chad  and  rertuous  mdovef^ 
as  they  did  Cods  altar.  And  for  the  widow  that  yon 
wot  of,  if  you  have  any  fpeciall  aime  therein  (as  fomc 
think  you  have)  flice  may  rcturne  that  anfwcr  to  you, 
which  once  O8avias  Chamb er- maid  P  gave  toTigelli- 
nits\  which  I  had  rather  you  fhould  lookcforinthe 
A*/£0/)than  expeft  from  me. 

The  place  from  <j  IrentHs^  by  which  he  proved  the 
Apoftles  ro  bee  Priefts,  becaule  they  did  Deo  &  AA 
tariftrvirt)  atccndthefervke  of  the  Lord,  and  wait 
upon  him  at  the  Altar  ^  you  make '  to  be  an  Allegory 
and  no  more  than  fo :  but  Bi{hopA/0*/4g*f  of  Chtrhe- 
Jler ,  of  whom  the  Doctor(as  you  bid  him)  will  thinks 
no  jh<imt  to  learne  as  long  as  hee  lives,  ffwides  more 
matter  in  it,nnd  laith  that  Irtn&usjib.  ^..c.zo.fpfaieth 
oftheminijlersofthe  neve  f eft  ament^not  of  the  old,  that 
they  doe  Deo  &  alt  art  defcr"jire  :  which  is  the  very 
fame  that  the  Do&or  faid.  Are  not  you  fcitus  fcrip- 
tor^  a  very  proper  fquirc,  to  quarrell  with  the  expos 
fition  of  a  manywhofe  bookes  you  are  not  fit  to  carry? 
what  may  bee  further  faid  of  Irentus  for  facrifices, 
Priefts,  and  Altars3  we  have  (hewn  you  in  the  former 
Chapter.  Next  for  TertitUlM}  the  Doctor  gave e  you 
thence  two  places,  one  from  hisbooke  deoralione^  Si 
&  ad  aram  Dciftetcris :  the  other  out  of  that  defeat- 
tentia  ?  adgentcutari aru  Dei.  Not  to  fuyany  thing  in 
this  place  «f  the  Stations  mentioned  in  the  firft  of 
thole  two  paffjpes  [  novne  JoleMxhr  er  it  {lath  tva,  Hi 
&  ad  aram  Dei /{etcr?f?]you  anfvver  (Iritunto  the  firft, 
dchat  by  this  Ara  Dei,  TtrtuHian  in  his  African  and aj- 
ft  ft ed  pile  meares  plaiaetytheLordsTable.  Why  man, 
who  ever  doubted  i:  ?  What  faith  the  Doftor  more  • 

than 


0«) 

than  this?  TertuUian  (arc  not  thefc  his  words?)  hath  Cap 
the  name,  of  Altar  y  n$  a  tktHgufeJandknovexeinthc       ** 


Chrijlian  Chnrch :  as,m>0*e  folcmuior  trit  ftatio 
Si  &adaram  Deiflcteris  ?  what  finde  you  there,  but 
that  the  Lords  table  in  TtrtuUians  time,  was  called  Art 
Dei^Godf  Altar  \  you  might  have  faved  your  labour, 
of  running  into  France  for  my e  Lord  dtt  P/^/}v:unlc(Tc   W  Aiti*t»i 
hcc  could  have  told  you  that  TcrtttUian  meant  fomc 
other  thing  in  his  Ara  Dei  ^  or  that  the  name  of  Altar 
was  not  a  thing  then  knovvnc  and  ufed  in  the  Chriflian 
ChuTch.Terft/l/faff  did  indeed  affeft  a  little  of  the  Afti* 
can,  in  all  his  ftile.  Buc  his  faid  affectation  dorh  appearc 
in  nothing  here,  fave  that  hee  ufeth  the  word  Aray 
when  as,  in  that  propriety  of  fpeech  which  generally 
\vasobfervedin  Chriftian  Writers  3  hce  (hould  have 
ufed  the  word  Altarc.  Nor  need  you  take  fuch  paincs 
to  adde  fome  reafon  for  your  opinion,  that  there  by 
AraDci,Tertnllian  plainly  meaneth  the  I ords  Table  5 
being  a  matter  never  queftioned.    And  yet  to  (hew 
your  mighty  reading  i  and  that  you  have  a  great  deale 
of  the  fr/V  if  £?in  you  :  you  fall  into  a  tale  of  I  know 
rot  what,  that  Ara  in  TertnUian  doth  not  fignifiean 
Altar.,  but  any  hillockjr  advantage  efg'ou nd.  Once  in 
TcrtHllian  foit  fignifieth,  as  in  that  dt  Pallfa.  And  ther- 
fore  muft  it  here  be  ara  Dti^t  Gods  hiBocl^pt  (as  your 
felfe  tranflatc  it  afcer  )  the  rifiug  of  Almighty  God?  But 
herein  you  miftakc  the  point  cxtrcamcly ,  as  in  all 
things  cifc:  The  proper  ugnification  of  the  word  ,  is 
Mtarjs  you  may  fee  in  I'arrode  lingua latina Jib. ^.v\& 
IJiJore  dt  Origin  .lib.  15.^.4.  ufe  \  for  a  bankg  or  hi!locl{ 
by  a  Merophoronely,  as  in  thit  dt  Pallio.  Sorharto 
call  the  Table  <;/•*,  one ly  becoufe  it  was  a  kinr'e  of  rl- 
fng  above  the  pavement  5   and  to  call  baiikcs  or  rifings 

P  aras 


C 

aras,  becaufe  of  that  fimilrude  they  had  to 
were  rorunne  round  /«  rtrtu^o,  and  borrow  Meta 
phors  from  metaphor 3,  adinjtniintjt.  And  yet  you  take ' 
avvay  this  Metaphor  a'fo,  by  celling  us  immediately, 
th.t  Tertiillijtr  by  alludi<  g  to  rhe  refervations  from 
the Hea'Lfu  <!lt.iYs,  dorti  call  the  Communion-Table 
^/w  D./5  Gr>4  Alrar.  Doth  he  fo  ?  That's  well.  You 
give  as  much  in  this,  as  one  needs  defire,that  were  not 
too  infallibly  covetous  How  you  miftakc  Turtnttun 
in  his  refervate  &  ecctytre ,  wee  (lull  fee  hereafter:. 
IV;cane  time  wee  muft  needs  tell  both  the  world  and 
you, how  wretchedly  you  falflfie  mm,  to  {erveyouc 
turne.  Fora  further  proofe,  that  there  by  Ara  Dei3 
Ttrt*illian  meaneth  not-i  reaU^  but  a  A/  taphoricall  Al- 
tary  you  proceedc  as  followeth.  <c  Laltly,  fiy  you, 
*  tertullian  by  naming  his  fac«  ifice  immediately  be- 
"fore,  SacrificiMmortfianit,  to  Kee  but  a  facrificeof 
"  prayer,  doth  cleerely  interpret  what  hee  mcanes  by 
cc  A//rf^5  to  wit,  a  Metaphorical  I  and  improper-  Altar^ 
€Si\a  wee  (hewed  abundantly  heretofore.  Tox  lave 
fr<:Txedm>iny '  vhings  f.e n tefore ,  you  fay  true  in  that, 
but  norhing  more  akuxlttitlj  than  your  extreame 
falftoods  :  yer  that  nor  niore  tbundanrlv  in  my  place 
than  in  this  prefent  p  ifTaye  from  Tertullian.  Te  tullian 
fpcaks  rot  there  rfyicrifitium  or  >t'ronte^  the  facrifice  of 
prayer  as  you  make  him  (peake.an.!  then  conclude,tluc 
therefore  he  muft  meane  a  Met aphoric ill *#d improper 
{\ltar :  but  oforatiovesftcri/irht'it/*,  the  prjyers  ufed 
ar  the  celebration  of  the  fjcrihce5for  ccle! -ration  of 
the  which  there  w.is  required  a  real  I  and  nnterialJ  A/- 
tar.  Non  put  ant  pltriqu?  facrifi  h  -urn  o>  tt'tonibus  tn- 
tervettit.ndnm,  quod flatio fat-vend* jify&c.  Fi;v!e  you 
here  not  hiogbuc  a  facrifice  of  prayer  ?  txjkcrifffi*m 

ora* 


ontlonif,  as  you  have  perverted  it  ?  would  you  would  Cap.6« 
offer  ttnto  GoJtbef<tcrtfice  flfrrg/jftfifffoeffeComctlmcS} 
and  dealeingeniocfty  with  the  ancient  writers, and  not 
abufe  and  falfific  them  with  fo  high  an  impudence, 
even  when  you  write  of  i  he  molt  holy  facrifices  in  the 
Chriflian  Church.  Your  rrimnie  conceit  touching  the 
tale  of  an  o/./rrv/^and  an  oUrrivts  tttl:,  that  followes  m 
p.iOz.  8c  blind  miftaking  of  Ignatius  his  Epiftlc  adTral- 
lenfes  for  that  ad'farfenfes^  we  regard  not  here :  as  ha 
ving  matters  of  more  moment  to  (pend  our  time  on. 

For  the  next  place,  ddgtniculari  arts  Dei,  you  tell  (•)?» x**» 
us  that  it  is  runneout  of  the  text ; f  and  ddgenicitlarl 
charts  Dei  put  in  ftead  thereof:   the  alteration  being 
made  by  Vamel'ms^  ayyroved  by  all  men  elfe^  bejides  tiff 
pooreDotfor.  Approved  by  all  menclfe?  moft  con 
fidently  faid  indeed,  but  moft  weakly  proved.  What 
thinkeyou  of  llofyintan.  whofc  judgement  you  relic 
upon  in  other  matcers  of  this  nature?  Men/wit  enim  & 
Tieitu\rm\usadgeffrculjtiovjf  pa.'nittntinm  ad  arasjn  /. 
de  pvMtentia,  So  he,  in  his  difcourfe  de  origine  Altari- 
7///7,  publiflied  in  the  ycare  1603.  What  thinke  you  of 
LaitreptittsRettattts  dclaBarre.,  whoreades  it,  as  the 
Dotlordoth;  Adgtniculariaris  Dti  j.and  thcreupoa 
inferreSj  Hicvidesaatiquitus^  Alt  aria  vtntratwnifitif* 
fe.,  quibttf  adgenictdarentur :  By  which  (faith  hee)  you 
may  perceive  that  anciently  the  slltars  were  ha  1  in 
reverence,  and  that  the  people  kneeled  before  them  ? 
What  thinke  you  of  Beaft/s  llhtnwMj  who  doth  not 
onely  reade  it  aris  Dei,  and  makes  that  inference  thcr- 
upon,  which  out  of  him  wastaken  by  de  la  "Bar re  :  buc 
brings  a  teftimony  from  S.^wbrofe.,  that  in  thofe  anci 
ent  times  they  did  ofcitlis  quoque/wrwrarcfionourtlic 
Altars  with  thcirJkUTcs  ?  What  thinke  you,  finally,  or" 

P  2  -S/f- 


Sc<5l.  2.    Stepfowt  Entrant  is,  which  alfo  readcs  it  Ark  Del,  /#. 

JeRitib.  Eccl.  i.  cap,i$J?  You  fee  Sir.here  arcfome  bc- 
fides  the  poore  Do&or  that  approve  of  the  ancient  rea 
ding  :  and  for  your  new  readings,  as  many  times  the/ 
have  their  ufcs,  fo  other  whiles  they  make  an  Author 
(peake  what  he  never  meant :  the  liberty  Qtcorretting 
and  criticizing  being  growne  fo  high,!k  that  rffilpfjing 
(you  know  ic  by  yourfelfe)  fo  univcrfall  $  that  the  oJd 
Copies  may  be  thought  to  be  the  trueft.  And  I  am  partly 
.  in  thefe  matters  of  oJd  T/V//0*/ minde,who  being  asked 
by  hratuj  s  how  he  might  get  a  perfcft  Copy  of  //<?- 
tntrs  Works.returned  this  anfwcr,  that  he  fhould  look 
abroad  for  or.e  of  the  old  Editions.,  and  not  Jookeafccr 
thofeof  the  nen>corre£fh»s;^r^s  etWcuwfitvTiypttVo^ 

fVTUy^OLVoij  %  fJY(  ToT?  MA  /^p^ttWOJ?'      I  OU  ^CC  l^C  ^°" 

ftors  are  divided,  8c  that  both  Readings  have  their  Pa- 
trons,and  fomc  that  lived  fincethc  old  reading  was  caft 

M  °Ut  °^e  'I"CXt  hby  Pafff^itff3  ^ave  not  for  a11  tnacta" 
fced,  ^en  UP  ^*s  Char  is  £><?/',  much  \cficoppofcd  the  old,  as 
Pamdius  you  idly  drcame.  As  for  your  fally  on  the  Author  ofthe 
5.       ijfifte  determination^  which  you  fpeake  of,  p.  163. 
the  P0^/-A/^/w3asyoucall  him,  fcnt  tuujefwoj^ 
according  to  your  wonted  fafhion  ofcaftingdirc  on  all 
you  meet  with  $  I  leave  him  to  himfelfe  5  it  concerncs 
not  me.    /T.t^tcm  lalet^z  is  of  age  to  doc  you  rcafon, 
as  well  in  this,  as  in  that  other  quarrell  which  you 
have  againft  him,  and  which  you  fall  upon  unfcafona- 
My,  but  that  you  love  to  be  in  aclion.p.rpit  All  that 
I  mcanctodoe,  is  to  divide  the  windc  and  Sunnc  bc- 
twccncyou,  and  fee  f.iirc  play  on  both  fides,  if  you 
fhould  char.ce  to  enter  the  lilt  about  it. 

Andfo  \vcewillprocccd  unto  S.  Cjpriaa*  of  whom 
C^1C  ^oftor  told  you  m  his c  Coihffom  the  hltar^  that 

in 


OP7) 

in  his  Ep.  net  E$i8etttM)  hce  plainly  cals  k ,  /*//</;• e  Dei,    Cap* £. 
Cods  Altar.  But  there,  fay  you, u  he  meanes  by  Altetr^  (u;p.i«»» 
StrpufblattoHtJ)  lucra,  the  contHbuttflas.offenngs^and 
all  advantages  belonging  to  the  tnavs  Itifiopricfy  whom 
they  hadfttfpended.  This  you  affirm c  indeede5but  with 
as  little  proofejas  truth.The  words  are  plainely  other- 
wife  3  but  that  you  have  an  itch  that  will  never  leave 
youjto  make  your  Authors  fpeake  what  they  never 
meant.   Now  thus  itood  the  cafe :  One*  Fort /tyjtia-  ^Cypr.Ep, 
nus  having  Apoftated  in  the  time  of  perftcution ,  and  l«.i-ep-7| 
thereupon  being  deprived  of  his  Biflioprick,  would 
enter  on  his  charge  againe  without  more  adoe,  not  be 
ing  reconciledunto  the  Ghnrch.    This  the  good  Fa 
ther  there  complaines  of,  that  he  (hould  dare  to  enter 
on  the  Prieftliood,which  lie  had  betrayed,  Quaff  peft 
aras  Diaboli^  accedercadaras  Dei  fas Jit ',  as  if  it  were  a 
thing  of  nothing  to  come  immediately  from  the  D£- 
•vils  Altars  to  the  Altar  of  God.    Is  this  to  talkc  of 
ojfcr???gt)ContribtttionSjand  matters  of  profit .«?  After 
indeed,  hee  mentioneth  Stipes  &  Oblatioxes3  but  nei 
ther  in  this  very  cafe,  nor  any  thing  unto  this  pur- 
pofe$  which  you  know  well  enough,  though  contra 
ry  unto  your  knowledge,  you  bring  in  thofe  words  to 
flop  a  pappe  withall,  and  for  no  ufe  clfe.  That  in  the 
eighth  EpifHc,  unum  Alt are  3  &UHHIH  Saccrdotlitm, 
doth  fignific,  you  fay,   the  fitmme  and  fubjltnce  of 
the  Gofpel^  why  doe  you  noc  make  ufe  of  the  fame 
conftruftion  for  the  't'y  ^-t;<r(X7*>»pio»  7r«tV/f  TO)  ex.x:An<r'c6 
in  Jvnatiut^  before  rcmcmbrcd ,  rather  than  runneas 
farre  as  F.pliefitf  for  a  bald  device,  toblindcthe  ludcr 
of  the  place?  Both  places  intimate  this  onely,  that  in 
oxc  Church  there  was  not,  in  thofe  early  day  cs.  above 
one  Altar  5  and  may  bes  ferviceablc  as  others  of  this 

P  3  natuix 


(a;  Article, 


Sc<5t.  2.     nature  arc  ,  againft  the  Vlnraliite  ofUtffts  in  the 
Church  of  Rome  $  many  of  which  you  have  in  Bifhop 
Icttfl/^Art.iy.f)  6.  But  that  it  fhould  bee  thence  con- 
cludcd,that  there  S.Cj>priti»  onely  meanes  ?  the  frame 
aitJfubflance  of  the  (iojpell^  is  to  make  diqvidexaihl- 
/09fo  it  ferve  you  purpofe  ;  Or  if  ir  could  bee  thence 
colleftedjit  could  not  but  bee  much  unto  the  honour 
of  the  hltar  and  the  Priejlhood  both  ,  that  thofe  two 
words  fhould  comprehend  the  whoJcbodic  of  religi 
on,  and  yet  the  Pr;V/?/'Wand  the  A//*//*  might  ftacd 
well  enough  for  all  that  collection.  Nor  need  wee 
feare,  that  following  this  Interpretation,  The  Pflpc* 
dome  7  would  befit  tip  andcrttttdin  every  Parifi  Ghurch 
in  £*gfc0</,becaufe  forfooth  the  Father  fpeakes  of  *»* 
Cathedr*  in  the  words  before.  Saith  'not  tgaatiut^  tis 
vxivwrcQ  5j  °ne  °n^h  %ffi°l>  in  a  Church^  as  before  was 
faid.  Neither  of  them  I  trow  endeavoured  to  advance 
the  Popedoatt^  but,  that  for  the  avoiding  offchifaes 
and  divijioas  there  ought  to  bee  ove  Biflwp  onely  with- 
'ln  one  Diocefe  •  whereof  fee  Bifliop  Icwel  *pafira9  ia 
that  of  the  Supremacy:  And  as  out  Bifiop,  fooxe  Przcjf- 
/>W^and  one  Altar  onely  in  each  Church,  on  the  felfe- 
£imc  reafon.  The  like  may  bee  replied  to  your  evafion 
^roni  S*  cy\)r'unt  "leaning  in  his  i»  ninth  Epiftlc,  of 
which  you  tell  us,  us  before,  that  hce  meanes  there 
by  cxf//^r  the  MinlferhU  funttionsund  offices.  Iffo/it 
were  but  pjrjpro  loto^  the  chicfeft  and  moft  excellent 
part  of  the  whole  Minifteric  put  for  all  the  reft.  Rue 
are  you  fure  of  what  you  fay  ?  are  you  fure  of  any 
thing?  Saint  Cyprian  fpeakes  five  times  of  Altars  in 
thut  one  Epiftlc,  fourc  times  oRSAcriffts  and  A//<^r/  .• 
Tlunkc  you  he  mcancsin  every  place  the  MinifieriaU 
offices  /  What  fay  you  then  to  this  \  Ntque 




099) 

tnim  mtretttr  nomlitari  ad  Altare  Dei  /*  SactrdttHnt 
pratt,  ^w/  <;£  Alcarc  SactrJotes  avocare  volttit :  What 
fignificth  AJtarcin  the  nrft  place  thinke  you  ?  What  ? 
the  t»atcriall A/A*r,or  the  Priefly  funtthn  :  However 
you  may  wreft  this  meaning  ir^sjjc  later  claufe,  to  the 
Prieflyft»8h»flet  in  the  firftyou  cannot  podibly  give 
him  any  other  meaning,  than  that  the  P/vV/?/  officiated 
attherealland«w/*/v<///.rf/^/'.  For1  fhamc  deale  better 
with  the  Fathers}and  let  them  fpeake  their  miadesjac- 
cording  to  the  liberty  of  thcfe  moft  pure  and  pious 
timesiwithout  thofe  bafe  dif^aifes  which  you  put  upon 
them,onlyto  blind  yourreaders  eies^abufe  antiquity. 
Thus  have  I  given  you  a  briefe  view  in  thefe  two 
laft  Chapters,  of  the  chiefe  point  in  conrroverfie,  be- 
tweene  the  Doftor  and  your  fclfe,  and  hunted  you  as 
well  as  my  poore  wits  would  ferve  me5out  of  all  your 
ftarting  jholes.  Altars^  and  Priejls^  and  Sacrifices  be 
ing  Relatives^  you  fay  your  fclfe,  I  have  layed  down 
in  the  firft  place  the  Orthodox  and  ancient  doftrine 
ofthe]Church,  concerning  Sacrifice  ^  followed  ic  in 
the  v/ayofanhtftoric4ttffarratiofi,  from  Al>J  downe 
to  Noabficxn.  him  to  M0fest  from  Mofes  to  Chrifty  who 
inftituted,  asS.  Irenftt*  hath  ir,  the  new  facrificc  of 
the  new  Tcfhment  ^novamoblationcm,  noviT'jfamr/t- 
t)9  in  the  Fathers  language.  This  f-urificc  thus  initi- 
tuted  by  our  Lord  and  Saviour,  the  Church  received 
from  the  Apoftles,  and  offers  it  accordingly  to  the  (c)Qyimab 
Lord  our  God,  throughout  the  habitable  world  :  the  ^^1 
pafTage  and  defcent  whereof  from  the  Apoftlcs  times,  ens.inunivcr. 
until lS.^fw/?w3  weehavetraced  and  followed.  And  f°  mundoof. 
wee  have  alfo  found,  that  from  the  firft  times  to  the         co* l> 
Iaft5there  was  nofacrifice performed  without  ?/•/>/?/, 
and  Altars-^  excepting  thofe  friritttaU  far/foes,  which 

P  4  every 


i 


Scdt.  2, 


every  man  is  bound  to  offer/m  what  place  focver.  All 
\vhich,both  Alt  arsjr  lefts, and  farTi/icc,  wee  have  diG» 
covered  to  )ou  in  the  Church  of  England^  out  of  the 
publick  monuments  and  Records  thereof  $  and  that  fo 
anfwcrably  unto  the  Patterns  of  Axtiqt/itj ,  as  if  it 
had  bcene  rather  ordered  by  the  anchw  Fathers,  than 
the  htf  Reformers.  Wee  alfo  have  cleared  up  thofc 
nmb,v;hich  you  endeavoured  to  cart  upon  the  ancient 
Writers,  that  fo  your  Readers  might  not  fee  the  true 
intent  and  meaning  of  thcfe  palTages,  wch  concern  this 
Argument  5  thofe  moft  efpecially  whereby  you  would 
pcrfvvadeweakemcn,  fuch  as  are  bound  to  take  your 
word  without  further  fearch,  that  in  the  Primitive 
Church,  there  was  neither  Altar^Prkfl^  nor  Sacrifice, 
truly  and  properly  fo  called :  which  what  a  mine  and 
confufion  r.  would  bring  in  the  Church  of  God,  ta- 
Ving  a  way  all  outward  worfhip5enabling  every  man  to 
the  Priefllj  funftion^robbing  the  Church  of  all  the  re 
verence  due  unto  it  j  no  man  knowes  better  than  your 
felfe,  who  have  cndevourcd  to  pronu  te  that  doftrinc 
for  this  purpcfe  onely,that  you  maybe  cryedup,  and 
honoured  as  the  Grand  Patron  and  defender  of  mens 
Clrifian.  liberty.  Finally,  I  have  anfwered  unto  all 
thofe  Cavils  and  exceptions  wcl»  you  had  made  againft 
the  Al legations  and  Authorities  preffed and  produced 
by  the  Doftor  againft  the  Writer  of  the  Letter  to  the 
Vicar  of  Gray  thaw  ^and  \cftl\imftatv  quo^  in  the  fame 
cafe   wherein  you  found  him,  all  your  afiaults  and 
ftratagemsoffrau^andfalfhood  notwithanding.  But 
this  in  reference  oncly  to  the  thing  ic  felfe,  that  the 
Church  had  Altars  in  thofc  early  and  dawning  dayes 
of  Chriftianiry  ^  we  will  next  lookc  upon  the  place 
and  fituation  of  thcnijwhatyoufay  to  that. 

CHAP. 


1//U 


C  H  A  P.  V  1 1. 

Of  ChurcheSjand  the  faflhion  of  them,  and  of 
the  ufuall  place  allotted  iti^the  Church  for 
the  holy  Altar. 

places  apf»iMted  for  Divine  worfop  *;»<>»£# '/^Patriarchs , 

Icwes  axd  Gentiles.  The  variant  conduit**  *nd  eft  Ate  of 

the  Chrifti**  Chttrfb,  And  that  the  Churches  were  accor- 

din^ttntothnfetftdtet*  Wiiat  vnu  the  meaning  of  the  Apo- 

logcucks  y  when  they  denyedthe  having  of  Temples  in  the 

Church  ofChrtJl,  The  M'miRct oj  L'wc.Jtops  the  miutl)  of 

Minutius Felix, <zndf.il/ififth  Arnobius.  fdmshorv  funded 

in  the  trouble frrr.e  and  perfecuted  times  oj 'Chriftianfty.  The 

Mfftallforme  of 'Churches  ,  anddijtintl  ptrtr  and  f  I  sees  of 

them  in  the  Primitive  timest  That  in  thofe times  the  Altars 

flood  not  in  the  body  of  the  Church    AS  u/Mpf>ofed  by  the  Mi- 

nrfter  of  ~L\nc.Sixre*i{o*fforthejtAKdtKgoftheh\i*T*atthe 

upper  end  of  the  Qwt  or  Chancell  in  tlx  dtjes  of  old.  C>/Ec- 

clefiaHicall  tr.ultnons ,  a>  d  the  Anthony  thereof,    Tie 

Church  of  ^Englantl  confront  to  the  pr.ittice  of  (he  formir 

times.  The  Miniflero/Linc.  tell  a  Winter  t^le  about  the 

ftjn;linjr*f.m  Ahar/w  f^fCathcdrall  Church  o/Dovcr.7"£r 

meaning  >-J  the  Kubrick  ittthe'CommM-'prAj[cr*boo%e9iikoitt 

the  pljctr:grfthc  Table  in  Communion  tune*,  M  *lfo  of  the 

81  Canon  ojthe  Church  o/EngUnd. 

is  well  noted  by  oor  incomparable  Ho* 
^r,  **  That  folemne  duties  of  publick  fer- 
"vice  to  bee  done  unto  God,  muft  have 
vC  their  places  fer  and  prepared  in  fuch  fore, 
"ashcfecmeth  aftions  of  that  regard.  Which  laycd 
for  hisfoundation3he  thusbuilds  upon  it, cc  that  Adam 
during  the  fpace  of  his  fmall  continuance  in 

'*  Piradife, 


2.    "  P-iradifr,  had  where  to  prefcnt  himfclfe  before  the 
tc  that  Adams  Tonnes  had  out  of  Para- 


"  di(e  in  Jike  fort,  whirher  to  bring  their  Sacrifices, 
w  0*4.3  •  that  the  fatrtarcht  ufed  Altars,  and  Mono* 
^taintS)  andCwzw  to  the  felf-famepurpofe,  Geff.ij. 
l'  4-.&2Z.I.&  2  1.  3  y.  that  in  the  wilderncflc,  when  as 
"  the  people  ofGod  had  thcmfclves  no  fctled  habica- 
cc  tion,  yet  were  they  then  commanded  by  God  to 
Cc  make  a  moveable  Tabernacle  5  and  finally,  that  the 
"  like  chargewas  given  them  againft  the  time  that  they 
"  fbould  come  to  fettle  themfclves  in  the  Land,  which 
<c  had  becue  promifed  to  their  Fathers.  Nature  infor 
med  them  in  the  r/sa.ixe,  that  proper  and  peculiar  pla 
ces  were  to  bee  fee  apart  to  Godspublick  worfhip, 
and  God  himfclfe  informed  them  in  the  circnrnftance 
thereof,  for  the  fosme  and  fafhion,  both  when  the 
Church  was  moveable,  and  when  after  fetled.  The 
TVtavw/ffafhioncdby  his  direction^  was  amoveablo 
Temple  \  thcT«w/?^fa(hionedby  that  pattcrne,  was  a 
fettled  Tabernacle.  Each  of  them  had  their  Courts^ 
their  Santtttm^  and  their  SanSum  Santtorvm.,  accor 
ding  to  the  feverall  Minifteries  by  the  Law  required  : 
which  diltribution  ftood  in  force;  as  long  as  there  was 
&uy  Ten/pie  fo  to  be  diftributed,  and  any  Minifteries  in 
the  fame  co  be  performed.  A  TV/wp/^v/hileft  it  ftood, 
of  molt  rich  magnificence:///////'.'///^  o^tilentU  Templum^ 
ii>)  Hid-  Jib.y.  3S  b  Tacitus  moil  truly  callcdir$and  fuch  as  Titt/t  labo 
red  to  prefcrvc  with  all  might  and  cunning,  at  the  de 
ft  ruction  of  the  Citie  ^  knowing  right  well,  ftqttot/o^ 
(»-;/^/*.Hift'.  tae«j>tq  nv  /2A*G;y,  c  thac  the  fubverfion  of  ic  would 
rfchdluiMfa'  redound  unto  the  lofle  and  prejudice  of  the  Romans 
9  '"'  Empire.  A  Temple  on  the  which  the  people  of  the 

Jems  had  fcverally  beftowed  their  coftly  ortcrings,  as 

occa- 


t  I  U 


occafion  was:  and  to  the  which  the  Kings  of  /(/£/,  Cap.  7* 
J  trarle*  01  T*$'  A«'*s  famous*  &  lofephtts  tels  us,  had  M)  Antiq.!.ul. 
fent  both  many  and  thoferoy  all  and  magnificent  prc-  MMJ.C»P.«. 
fcnts,  inteftimonicofthcirfcrvicetorheGod  of  I/^ 
w4  Nor  was  it  otherwife  with  the  G'.nltles^  th.in 
with  Gods  owne  people.  At  raft  they  worftiipped 
their  Gods/W*/fo,  inthcopenaire  :  the  Grccijnsh-  fe>Aiex.ab 
crificing  unto  jF^culapHs  c  on  the  mountame  tops,  as  Alcx.li.*.c.«.« 
the  Bithjniaas  did  unto  all  their  deities. 

Now  as  they  had  their  bigkptt*fesf.heir  wontium  ca- 
(umlna^  as  nnne  Authour  calls  them  ^  fo  had  they 
groves  alfo  35  the  Vratriarchs  had  ;  and  facrificed  unto 
their  Gods  under  woods  and  trees.  f  The  grove  of  (f  i< 
Hercules  neere  Athens  ^  and  chat  of  F<r/7<*  neerc  mount  i 
"Palatine^  were  very  famous  in  old  times.  Some 
fuch  there  was  in  Carthage  whereof  F/>g7/s(pcjks5 
UtcMinurhcfnit  medit^  Utifiimti*  timbra.  And  Ser~ 
notes  h  upon  the  place,  that  F//-g/7ncverfpeakcs 

^  but  yon  muft  take  rhem  to  bee  confecrarcd  ^  hic'um  p 
religionei  inhisSchoiii  on  the  third  ^'r^ 
So  Lucan  telsusofthcD/-//;'./!?/,  !  Nr-  fiJpjjl. 
ifitrcolifjfLuciSy  that  they  delighted 
moft  in  high  jr<W.r3and  private  proves  :  the  Ojfte  being 
principally  affet^ed  by  them,  whence  kthcy  had  their  (>;>VnJc&u« 
name,  But  when  the  Lord  had  fixed  his  people  in  the  nomm.i 
LandofCaffaatt*  and  riven  them  leave  to  build  a  Tun.  ftvt  .  , 

,         i  .  i  r      i      '  i  i  P.m.lib.'.rf. 

pie  to  his  name:  that  grant  was  forthwith  apprehen- 

dcd  by  the  Gentiles  alfo3  in  their  magnificent  ftrnfturcs 

ofthefelfefamekinde.    The  forme  and  diftribnrion 

generally  the  fame  with  that  of  Salomons  :  the  Tc  m^ 

-,    pics  of  the  Gentiles  being  divided  into  three  pairs  al 

i  fo^/ss,  the  Courts  'or  /^;Y^,  the  tody  of  the  Time 

which  they  called  'Bajilicat^  and  laft  of  all  their  A.tya^ 


or 


(204) 

S  C(5t  2.-       or  Pflt<*r*l'*'  The  Jrtat  of  their  Temples,  the  Porti- 

(l  Kof  mssAot  ws  a"d  the  W/w  or  bodie  of  them,  Were  fuffered  to 

Kun.i. i.c.i.    beufed  fometimcsfor  walking,  conference,  and  fuch 

in,  iu.uv.ilux  rivW  bufmeffes :  buc  for  their  Adyta^ m  they  were  con- 

i^.i.c.t  n.s.     ceived  to  be  dSt'x1a  %  i-J/*ur  */£*«*>  not  to  bee  looked 

into  or  touched  5  but  by  the  rritfts.  Thefc  ''A<M<ti 

the  Latines  generally  called  Penetralia ,  as  'before  was 

faid :  Cffar*  occult  a  &  nmot*  TewplL  the  hidden  and 

(r.)  Pcll.cmlis  J5          r\_X«  i  iij  -iif 

^j.^.  remote  pares  of  the  Temples  andaddes  withall,^ 

prtttr  facerdotet  adire  fa  non  sfi,  that  it  was  law  full 
unto  none  befides  the  Priefts  to  goe  inro  them.  Final 
ly,  for  the  coftly  offerings  beftowcd  upon  rb'  m,  and 
thofc  rich  presents  whkh  occafionally  had  been  fent 
unto  them  :  take  once  for  all,  that  Temple  of  Apollo 
in  Dctyhos,  whereof  the  Hiftorian  •  thus  informesus. 
1  b  14.  U  '  Mitlta  ibi  &  opulent  a  RegumpopuhruMfavtfunturmu- 
tfcrj.qftfqiff  WAgwJiccntta  ////,  rtddtntium  vota  grattm 
volant  at  tin  $•  dcontw  rffwfffa  maaifrftiint, 

TliUJalfo  waaic  wich  the  Chrifthns  in  the  Trimi* 
the  times,  compelled  too  often,  to  hold  their  mee 
tings  and  aflcmblie's,  as  Ij'ifliop  Terrell  rightly  notes  ir, 
invjcdntptttcets  in  woods  and {orrefls^.anJ caves  under 
the  ground*  And  afcer  as  by  fufferance  orbyfpeciall 
fivour,  they  were  permitted  to  build  them  Oratories ; 
for  the  publick  ufe  :  they  neither  builc  them  in  fuch 
f.  mptuous  manner,  as  might  have  drawne  upon  them 
the  Common  cnvie  of  ti.cGcntiles ^ or  furniflied  them 
in  fuch  rich  forr,as  might  have  been  a  bnrden  to  them- 
fclvcs  in  their  poorc  cftace.  l^ut  when  the  Church 
wasfctlcd,  and  had  got  the  better  hand  of  her  cruell 
enemies  5  Twi^les  in  all  parts  were  erected  :  the  whole 
world  feeming  to  exult, that  opportunity  was  given  to 
pourc  out  hs  treafures  to  fo  good  a  purpofe.  To  thefe 

three 


three  periods,  wee  may  reduce  what  ever  is  to  bee  ob-  Cap. 
fervedintheprefentbufincflTe.  Touching  the  firft,  it 
is  that  we  are  told  by  Vhtixa,  t  Occultaefficomnia,  e^ 
CaceU4potitts  atqite  etiam  abdita,  &  pleruvjqitc  fublcr - 
ranea.  Churches  they  had ,  places  defigned  and  fee 
•  apart  for  their  holy  excrcifes ;  but  poore  and  meane, 
and  almoft  hidden  from  mcns  eyes,  agreeaMe  unto 
the  prefent  (late  in  the  which  they  were.  However 
being  deftinate  to  thofe  holy  ufes5they  were  not  Cuffcs 
red  co  bee  defiled  and  abufcd  by  prophine  imploy- 
nienrs.  Thjcof«S.  I'auI9i  Have  )ee not  HoufestoeAte 
and  drlnkc  /#5  difcovers  manifeftly  that  there  was  a 
difference  to  bee  made  bee  ween  houfe  and  houfe,  bc- 
tweene  Gods  houfe  and  mans3  the  places  of  religious 
and  civil  1  meetings.  Now  as  there  was  a  difference 
f  between  houfe  and  houfc  5  fo  inthelclfefame  houfe, 
there  was  a  difference  between  phcc  and  place :  that 
which  was  feparated  for  the  Pr/cft  and  the  holy  Sacra- 
Wf///,not  being  to  bee  prelfcd  into  by  thec  Common 
people.  And  of  the  people  there  were  fomc  that' 
nrignt approch  more  neere  to  the  holy  places,  than 
the  others  could:  which  is  a  tiling  foknownc,  that 
no  man  which  pretends  ro  learning  did  evcrdoubr  ir. 
The  fecond  pericd  was  when  the  Church  had  reft, 
v  hat  times  the  Ckriftiaw  fet  themfelvc=s  to  bi  i!d  them 
Churches:  Churches,!  meane.avowed  forfucb,  and 
''  publickly  frequented  for  religious  meetings,  vifiblc  as 
well  unto  the  Gentiles  as  unto  the  faithfull^  and  well 
knowne  to  be  fo.The  firft  obferved  by  Toljdor  Vir&l) 
»to  have  been  publickly  avowed  \\\Rome,  beinpthat  /rvjcinvcnt 
pf  therm*  Kovntiin«jico  P<//r//w,confccrated  by  Pope  raunjj.c.« 
P/V/thc  firfV,//^  150.  or  thereabouts,  by  the  name  of 
Another  Church  (but  fomewhat  af- 

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(106) 

2..  ter  tnis;  doth  PhtriM  remember f  to  havebeene  builc 
a  c.v  by  Pope  CttHxtttt 3  iffreiiffffeTiy»fy6erfo*imddcdic& 
ted  by  the  name  of  the  Mffled  Virgin,  Bur  fora  gene- 
rall  view  of  their  works  of  this  kind,we  may  bcft  take 
it  from  /T///? //////, r  who  fpeakin^  of  the  calm  e  that  was 
L-etweene  the  ninth  and  tenth  perfecutions3informcs 
usoftheC/vvfay/w,  that  not  content  with  ~*  ~r  r  " 


Ckitrches  rfhicb  before  tbty  /W,  they  built  them  fairer ^ 
and  More  forge  ,  in  every  Citie.  But  take  his  owne 
words  with  you  for  your  morcaflfurance. : 


ex. 


Where  you  may  alfo  fee,  that  they  had  Churches 
(TrfoCe^-ifisti  as  before  he  cals  them)  in  rhc  former 
tinicsjbut  mane  and  Jw.///3  agreeable  unto  thole  mife- 
rable  and  calamitous  dayes.  Nor  was  it  long  before 
thofe  Churches  built  fo  lately,"  were  all  againe  demo* 
lifhcd  by  Diocltf  n  ^  andfo  continued  till  the  time  of 
the  L'mperoiir  Ccnttaniine  :  what  time  being  raifed 
more  beautifully,  thanibtfore  they  had  been  e  5  they 
were  fet  out  and  furnimed  with  all  coftly  furnitures. 
Sothac  when  Iitl'ian  was  in  irate,  who  next  but  one 
fuccceded  Conftantivc  in  the  Roman  Empire,  and  that 
the  trenfuresof  the  Church  were  made  a  prey  unto 
the  fpoiler  :  Felix  the  Proconfnl  "  could  not  chufc 
but  breakc  out  in  this  exprefllon,  »',/\y  tv  Wo<j  C*u~ 
aun  onrr.wi'JtTTcq  o  Mct«*«  iw5>  behold  in  v/hat  rich 
utenfilcstheydocadminiircrto  the  Sonne  of  Marie. 
Nor  wash  ever  thought  till  now,  in  thefe  later  dayes, 
that  God  created  fuch  and  fo  many  glorious  things,  to 
beicrved  only  with  the  bafeft. 

This  ground-  work  laicd^  wee  may  the  better  fee 
what  wee  have  to  fay  to  thofe  objeciions3  which  are 

and 


*A-  It* 


(207) 

andhavebeenemadeoutofthc  Ao'ogtticly  ofthofe  CaP-7. 


times,  to  prove  that  in  thofe  early 
anity  there  were  no  Churches.  And  this  I  will  the 
rather  do,becaufe  the  Authors  which  you  have  pro 
duced  ag.'.iiift  the  being  of  Altar?  in  the  Chriftians 
Churches,  conclude  afsvell  ,  that  then  they  had  no 
Churches  forrcligiousufes  :  which  being  examined  in 
i  his  place,  will  more  cle.irely  manifeft  what  knide  of 
Altar?,  and  what  kinde  of  Churches,  were  then  enqui 
red  of  by  the  Gentile  /3  and  in  what  fence  the  having 
of  them  was  denycdby  the  Chriftian  writer?.  Now 
they  rhat  gave  the  hint  unto  this  furmife  9  Jived  erher 
in  the  heat  of  perfecutiona  when  as  the  faithful]  were 
.  difperfcd  ,  and  neither  durft  or  could  beefufFcred  to 
rnecdfipublick:  or  el.  cconfidering  that  their  Chur 
ches  were  but  meanc  and  poorc,  they  didnotufe  to 
call  them  Tc?/!p!es  ;  as  did  the  Gentiles  thofe  magnifi 
cent  and  ftacely  ftru&ures,  which  had  becne  confccra- 
ted  co  their  Idols.  When  therefore  they  were  chi- 
lengedby  the  Gevtilesto  render  an  account  cf  their 
religion^  and  were  demanded  why  they  had  no  /tl» 
t-trs  /  rhry  were  interrogatedjalfo  why  they  had  no 
£  far  ekes.  Not  any  of  rhofe  Authors  which  you  have 
produced,  butfpeakeofone  as  well  as  the  other:  the 
objtcnon  being  made  of  both,  and  the  anfwere  unto 
borh  fet  downc  accordingly.  0/^v/imenrio1  s  r&;«  as 
well  as  Cw^vV  Mi  nut  i  us  Fdixy  hath  his  Templawtl/ay 

\vjth  his  Aras  null  44  :  and  of  A>  nobtus  it  'was  a-ked, 

r  i  i    fr  •  raJConir. 

cur  ttrqite  jacras  A'  ties  venerations  ad  opera  conftru-  Gent,  hb. 

a/v'tf^  as  wclla^  non  Alt  aria  tabr>ctmtis.  In  the  re-  «u»w. 
potting  of  which  Authors  von  leave  out  wlu'foever 
doth  rclart  to  not  having  Churches;  as  if  the  g>urre 
only  were  ot  nocluving  Altars  in  thole  Churches,  md 

ther-.fi.re 


Sctfl.  2.  therefore  cut  Uinutius  off  ttcurnuVasaraf>  not  fuf- 
fcriri£  hivntocome  forthwith  his  Tempi*  nttlla,  As 
for  Arnobivt  3  you  deale  worfe  with  him ,  than  with 
Uinutiu*^  and  make  the  Gentiles  put  the  queition, 

<b;p.  if*.  t  why  tfley  £tjje  Qiriftians) built  no  Altars,  vcxcrati- 
OHK  adoffcia,  to  officiate  upon  in  any  fyndc  ef  divine 
worfi/p;  when  as  the  queftion  was  not  why  they  had 
no  ^/A*AT  to  officiate  on  5  but  why  they  had  noC/JW- 
ches  to  officiate  in.  Is  this  fairc  dealing  thinke  youain  a 
great  Profeflbur  > 

Then  for  the  Anfwers  to  thefe  Cavils,  in  cafe  they 

fOibiih  muft  bcc  underftood  fmply  and  abfolutch^  c  as  you 
pleafe  to  fay  in  the  cafe  of  Altars :  then  will  it  follow 
thereupon,  not  onely  that  they  had  no  Churchessbut 
that  they  ought  to  have  none  neither.You  grant  your 
felfe3  that  there  were  Altars  in  the  Church  in  Tertulli- 
ans  time^n.&Churches you muft  alfo  granr3becaiife  you 

(4)  ibii  finde  it  in  TertnUiau>  who  makes  mention  of  them,  lib. 
de  Idol.^.adnxortm  l.z.cap.p.dc  vehnd.virg.wp.i.  oc 
>3«  and  alfo  in  his  book  de  Corona  w///V/V,which  makes 
it  plain,  that  whereas  Origin  and  Mimttiw  Felix  lived 
both  after  him,  and  yet  reply  unto  the  £n*£  re  of  the 
Gentiles,  that  they  had  neither  temples,  nor  Allan  : 
it  muft  be  underftood,  not  a!>folntcly  andfmply^  as  you 
(imply  fay,  as  if  they  had  no  Churches,  or  no  Altars  iu 
them  5  but  with  relation  to  thofc  TrMpk.t,  and  thofc 
hltars ,  which  were  fo  honoured  bv  the  Gentiles. 
The  like  is  alfo  to  bee  faid  unto  hrnobitt*y  who  living 
in  thofe  very  times  which  Eufebius  fprakes  of,wliereia 
tht  C^y?/Vw  did  inlarge  their  Churches,  andpublick 
Oratories^  cannot  bee  undciflood  (o  ahfiluiely  and 
nnM.  in  Jimpl}.,  as  you  and  c  your  Haraldits  conceive  hec  may  5 
arg  u*.  ^c  onejy  jn  tjiat  qualified  fence  before  rcmembrcd. 

Churches 


Cburclxt  they  had  for  facrcd  and  rc^Hous  meeting^     Cap./. 

but  no  fuch  ftatcly  and  magnificent  llru&nrcs  as  wcre 

ere&cd  by  rhc  Gentile^  to  bee  the  loc.'ll  habitation  of 

their  fevcral!  Idols.    And  they  had  Altars  too  for 

that  my  ft  i  call  Sacrifice ,  wHch  had  beer; c  conttantly 

continued  in  the  Church  of  G<x! ;  but  no  fuch  Altars 

as  the  Gc-t'Iff  had,  and  enquired  a'ter,  *hichwerc 

for  bloody  facnfices  of  Sheepc  and  Oxen.     And  this 

you  might  have  fcene  i:i  Aruob'uts  alfo,  but  dm  you 

ufe  to  wink  when  you  meet  \<  irh  any  thing  you  xvould 

not  willingly  obfcrvc.  For  prcfcndy  on  this,  quodtion 

AltjriajjbriceMM^nonarai,  he  ;iddes  thtfc  words,  no* 

c<r jorum fengttincM  animdntium  demits  :  which  cleere. 

ly  lhcv/LS  what  Altars  they  were  faid  to  wa:itby  the 

Inquficors. 

Thus  having  found  that  in  the  primitive  times  the 
Chrifthns  hadrheir  Churches,  and  in  them  their  Al 
tars,  our  next  inquirie  mnftberhis,  how, and  in  what 
particular  pi  ice  thcfe  /iltjrs  were  difpoted  ofin  the 
Cbmrchfs.  For  that  they  hi-1  fome  proper  and  pc- 
culiarpl;ice,isnot  i  matter  to  be  dtxi'xcd  Not  that 
i  thinke  the  >-ilta>'s  were  fo  fixed  ur  hi it^hnt  there  was 
no  rcmcvinj?  of  them  if  occjfion  was;  but  ilut  'here 
was  fome  certuiiie  place  a' Jotted  to  ^hem,  which  v/as 
rtfcrvcd  Tor  rhe  Pritfl,  an.!  rhc  Adini'iiilra-r-n  of  the 
Euchsrift:  out  ot  which  place  they  wjrcnottobcc 
moved,  unlefle  they  were  cpite  moved  oi't  of  the 
Church,  as  fometimr s  it  hapned.  For  that  they  were 
not  fixed  at  firft  may  1  cc  well  collected  ^rom  the  con 
dition  of  the  Church,  which  was  then  Itill  in  mori 
on,  and  unferled,  the  winds  of  perfection  beating  as 
they  did,  fo  fierce  upon  it.  Nor  were  the  Altars  only 
moveable  in  thofe  firft  dayes,  but  alfo  portable :  and 

Q^  purpofely 


cap 


fg^e  rcbu* 
Ecclcf.  cap.4. 


(no) 

C    fb     t 

pr.rpofcly  mademcveable,thac  cney  mi^ht bee  porta. 
ble5  according  to  the  quality  of  rhe  rimes.  And  if  wee 
may  re-He  upon  G*V/c/£/V/,  as  in  this  c:ife  I  rhinke  we 
may,hetels  us  o^aTaVle,  or  A  kar, (/*/,'.//* //£/?mv  in 
(f)v.  Hcf,Ue  his  lan^ua£e)f  whereat  the  Popes  of  Rome  did  ufe  to 
celebrate  the  Sacrament :  which  was  removed  by  the 
Priefts  from  place  to  place,  ubicuttqKe  Epifcopus  Ro- 
manus  latucrit^  where  ever  the  then  Kom.m  BiQiops 
did  retire  themfelves  in  times  endanger.  Then  for 
thefituationofthem,  whether  towards  the  Eatt,  or 
Wefr,  or  any  other  part  of  the  heavenly  bodies,  if 
Wahfridtu  Strsbo  may  he  credited  5  there  was  no  ccr- 
taintie  thereof  in  the  faid  times  neither :  the  hltars 
or  CovjmnnhnTables  being  fometimesdifpofed  of  sin 
^//V/'JSif  pAr^jjEaftjWeft,  North,  or  South ;  and  that 
as  there  he  relsus.  proptcr  aliquant  focorttmepport mri- 
fjtcm^  according  to  rhe  quality  and  convmiencie  of 
thepliccir  fcl*Y%.  1m Iced  it  was  not  polfible,  as  the 
times  then  were,  th.it  ic  flioul'l  bee  ocherwifc,  For 
holding  rhcir  aHl-mMics,  as  before  wee  told  you,  in 
privjte  boufff ,  in  d  ntits^  and  cavervcs  utt.fer  ground^ 
they  were  to  make  a  ve-riie  ofncccu1ry,and  fuit  them- 
fflvrs  acrording;  ro  rhe  q-ialitic  of  the  place,  confi 
de  inprh.it  eh-,  y  rruld  not  lint  the  place  to  rhcirowne 
dcfir^s.  Bur  thi-oia  Id  on»"lv  fora  time:  no  longer  than 
th'.  faith»u'.l  were  in  rhofe  txrrcmities ,  andputunto 
thcirftiifrs,  as  wee  ufc  to  fty.  For  after  when  they 

vo'jiyo  fie  rjv  ir  Churches  to  their  mindes,  they  ron- 
trivc-d'henalo.  char  in  their  prayers  and  addrefle  to 
A'niHrric  God,  they  turned  rhemfelves  unto  the 
Eaft.  The  An-'  or  of  the  Qiicftion?  and  Anfweres/t^ 
Qiti.odoxos  aicfibed  to  luJUric^  affirmes  that  in  his 

time 


Can) 

time h  the  Chriftians  offered  up  their  hymnes  and  orl-    Cap.  7, 
zonstoGod,  fixing  their  cyes^™  JAIJUWI  x,A«W 
towards  or  on  the  caftcrne  parts :  and  faith  wrhall, 
that  they  received  this  ufage  oW  T*V  a//'«v  etVoro'Aw , 
from  the  holy  Apoftles.  And  fure  I  am.  that  in  Itrtul- 
lians  time  the  Chriftians  were  accufed  of  worfhipping 
the  Sunne  .*  for  which  there  was  no  other  ground;but 
that  they  turned  unto  the  Eaft  in  the  rimes  of  prayer.  £»?•**• 
InJefafyicio  quod  tKnotiterit  nos  ad  Orients  rcgioncrn 
prccari^shz  there  informs  us.  Which  being  (o,it  is  not 
to  be  thought  but  trut  the  Churches  were  cone,  ived 
and  built  accordingly,  fir  to  the  pcfture  of  die  people 
in  the  rimes  of  prayer.  Not  that  ihey  were  not  builc  in 
any  pi ace^at  any  rime,  in  any  orher  form  or  fafhion,b'JC 
that  it  was  thus  generally,  and  for  the  moft  par  iT»  TO 
VoAy-.  in  all  Parrs  of  Chriftendomejfrom  thofetim;s 
downewards*.  And  fo it  i?  refolvcd  by  '  Wtlfridus  Strt-  (')  *« rebui 
bojtfitj  frequent hr  ej?  ittOrientemorantcs  coyvcrtit  & 
pli(r*tlitatc//t  eccltfuntm  M*.\iWitM  eo  tenon  cotftitui* 
For  further  proofc  of  which,  let  us  but  look  upon 
the  formes  of  our  ancient  Churches,  and  r/ee  fhall 
fuvle  that  generally  they  are  built  in  one  uniforme 
fafhion :  which  fufliion  queUionlcfle  was  borrowed 
from  rhe  pattern  of  the  firit  Chur-'hcs  ereftcd  in  the 
priniirive  times.  Bitronius  telsus  of  fome  Churches  kin 
his  time  (landing,  qut  tempoylbw^  Confijntint  futrttnt  a 
futdamtntit  extruCtf)  which  had  lx  ene  buil:  from 
the  foundation,  in  the  time  of  Conflantim  :  and  dif- 
ferrcd  nothing  in  the  forme,  ei-her  for  firuadon or  di- 
ftinftion5  from  thofe  which  have  beene  fince  er eJicd. 
And  we  may  probably  conclude  with  him,  rliK  thofe 
then  built  were  built  according  ro  the  forme  of  thofe 
which  were  demolifhcd  not  long  before,  in  the  time 

12  Of 


of DbctetiJ*/  ruric:  cum  etdem  i»iif  (fficiaeffcnt  ob* 
fHttda^  extrrtitdffua&ioiteji  ac  mjfent  conftmwanda ; 

ti.e  felfefame  offices ,  functions,  and  myfterie?,  being 
to  be  reformed  in  them  both  alike.  Now  for  perfor 
mance  o't:  cfe  functions,  offices,  and  niyfteries,  the 
Churci-cs  were  divided  inro  feverall  pares:  two  of 
th~  v  r.uh  art-  moft  confider.iblc  in  our  prcfenc  bufl- 
i.  if,-.  Of  rhcic  the  greater  was  called  ^1$,  the  nave 
Oi  boay  cf  the  Church  5  the  other  itp#rtm»  which  wee 
call  tl.c  giwfy  or  Chtnccll:  the  boJy  for  the  moft 
p«n,  Oai.d .ug  towards  the ll'eji :  the  Quirt  or  Chavccll 
tr  v;jf({;  vhe  Eaft.  And  howfoever  ic  was  and  mighc 
bee  ( t  erwile  in  fome  few  particulars;  yet  it  was 
.-p-A  ix.  irfrfst/or  mos^  the  generall  ufage  of  the  Church,  l  as 
i-dutii. ^/hatli  r,  toplace  the  Q»irt or  ch*»teSin  the 
K.iticin  parr.  Wihiiuhc  body  ofthc  Church?  they 
had  rScir  Audit  onum^  their  place  for  reading  of  the 
6V//'p/;-A-c>,an'l  lo  much  of  thcpublickOfficcs,as  miiht 
l-e  hca«(i  by  thole  whom  they  called  CAtechnmeti^  hat 
were  in  (trusted  inrfic  fiirh.  and  not  as  yet  adinitced 
UP  o  \  he  S.icraincnc  (,(  Jl^pi/fae.  The  ^v/'r  or  C/;./«« 
fr/y  fct  apart  for  the  pcfojrnancc  of  thofc  rites,  in 
vliich  they  pi?  red  the  grearcft  myfterie  of  their  pro- 
fdlion,  which  was  the  J-acrament  of  the  bodieand 
bloud  of  our  Lrrd  andSaviour  :  A  difference  or di- 
flincYton  not  rookeupin  the  later  times,  but  fuch  as 
ju.-iv  pleadftronglyforas  much  anriquity  as  any  other 
cuitosnc  in  the  Church  hefides^  and  in  the  which 
tlcv  \veredinaedaswellby  Gods  command,  as  by 
ris-iirrlrf  ;foM.  For  in  t'^e  Tabernacle  built  by  Gods 
own:-  jpix>irrmenr,and  fafliioned  by  his  owne  dircc^i- 
'ii.  ic  •  is  *  Stinftuw  .sw^/'^w^aplacc  more  holy 
*'c  rclt  j  iclcctcd  by  the  Lord  for  the  moft  excel 
lent 


("3) 

Jcnt  part  of  the  Iwijh  cctcmomc ,  which  was  the  ex- 
plating  of  his  people.  For  which,  if  God  thought  fit 
that  there  (hould  bee  a  proper  and  fele&ed  place,  and 
that  the  famcfhould  bee  fecluded  from  all  other  ufe  : 
the  Chrtjliawby  the  felfe  fame  warrant  might  in  their 
Churches  have  a  Sjnttum  Santtorttm  alfo,  for  the 
commemorating  of  that  expiation  ,  which  was  in  fact 
made  for  us  by  our  Lord  and  Saviour.  Befides^the 
Gentiles  had  in  their  feverall  temples,their  Adjta  or 
fcaetraliaj  as  before  was  faid  :  wherein  their  grcaccft 
myfteries  were  performed  and  celebrated.  Tota  in 
Adytis  divinitM)  m  faith  Trrtuliiatt  of  them.  In  thofe 
they  placed  their  deities,  and  inthofe  their  Alt  art. 
Exrejjere  omnes^  Adytis  arifquc  relitfif)D/jgi/i&ttf'iat* 
perium  hocftvtcrat ,  u  as  the  Poet  hatli  ir :  which  deer--  <"n)  Virgil 
ly  flicwes  their  ^//</r/  were  difpofcd  of  in  their  inmoft 
jdyta.  And  fliould  you  fay  that  by  this  reafon,  the  di- 
frribution  of  our  Churches  into  a  bodj^iA^ChameU^ 
would  favour  either  too  much  of  the  If  rv  or  Gentile •, 
you  might  betray  your  folly,  but  not  hurt  the  ciufe. 
For  there's  no  qucftion  to  be  made  but  many  Tt?v\Jcs 
of  the  Gentiles  were,  without  any  alteration  of  the 
Fabrickj  converted  into  Chriftiaa  Churches.  Nor  can 
you  (hew  a  reafon  for  it,  why  it  fhould  be  more  ftood 
opon,a6  the  times  then  were,  to  build  new  Churches 
ofthat  fafliion  which  the  Gentiles  ured^  than  to  ufe 
thofc  very  Churches  which  the  Gentlks  built.  And  for 
conformitie  with  the  lewes,  you  fmdcthat  anPsvercd 
to  your  hand  by  a  °  judicious  Divine  indeed,  who 
counts  ic  no  IcfTe  grievous  fault,  for  any  Kinoj  to  build 
his  houfe  according;  to  the  model  1  of  Salomons  Pjfjcf^ 
than  for  i  he  ChriJIittts  in  contriving  of  their  Churches, 
to  luve  an  eye  upouthc  fa!>rick  Q{\{.Sjhwont  TcMp/c. 

Now 


Now  where  it  is  affirmed  in  the  Bifhops  Icttcr3that 
anciently  i\\tC0mmumo»-Tahles  flood  to  the  widdtft  of 
tljt  cL-ttrch  ;  and  for  the  proofe  thereof,  the  Vicar  was 
referred  to  Bifliop  lewdl:  before  we  come  to  an  exa 
mination  of  the  proofes  there  offered,  we  will  propofe 
fomereafoos  why  it  could  not  bee  Co.  And  firftwce 
£nd  i:  granted  by  rh.it  Reverend  Prelat9Bifliop/enY#, 
that  wherefocver   die  Altar  ilood,  c:  it  was  divided 
e;  with  railes  from  rhc  rell,  whereof  it  was  called  c<?#- 
cc  «:'//,  a  Chancell,and  commonly  of  the  Greekes  P/w- 
c;  byt.  »v/-;,v,  for  tha  it  was  a  place  fpechlly  appoynted 
£c  utuo  che  P'vV/?/  and  MiaiferjyUid  (hut  up  from  all  o- 
<sthers,for  diitucbing  the  holy  Minifterie  :  Which  gi 
ven  for  granted5we  proceed3and  will  (lie  w  fom-e  reafons 
and  authorities  that  the  faid  Cbattcell  or  Prcslyteric 
was   not  ,  as  hec  concciveth  ,  in  the  middle  of  the 
Church,  but  adiftinft  part  and  member  of  it.,  at  one 
end  thereof;  and  yet  I  would  not  have  you  thinkc,buc 
that  I  hold  as  reverend  an  opinion  of  Bifliop  /rmr'^as 
y.ni,or  any  other,  bee  hee  who  he  will.  -Myhrft  au 
thority  fhall  be  taken  from  the  inftance  of,  and  in  the 
Eniperour  TheoJofiw  *  wh'u'h  Inmfelfe  there  makes. 
The  Kuipcronr  Thfodflftui  having  beenc  lon<»  prohibi 
ted  the  Church,  upon  tint  grcac  and  rafli  Miffacre  of 
the  TkeffdcnianS)  aud  afterwards  admitted  to  P  com-. 
LiR.KtLf.t.1.  municafc:  at  his  firft  entrance  in  the  Church  ,  cafts 
hi::;felfe  downc  upon  the  Pavement.AfterDthe'0^r- 
t(>r,  commingon,  rav  aWr^v  e^'Cn,  he  went  into 
the  SunUnanz^  and  having  made  his  offering,  ^j\zi  war 
rl  TXS  x.iyx.\}J--'j.t  tti.wM-v  >  continued    ftill  with 
in  tlic  fame,  ne:>rc  the  partition  or  caiuellii  Which 
being  noted  by  Saiht  dutbrofe9  hee  iignified  unto  him 
by  his  Deacon,  TA  iif-yi  .dm*  TM  Ivwu  ^xTo.5thac 

thofe 


thofe  Interiottr  parts  were  only  proper  to  the  Priefts, 
and  to  no  man  elfe.  Now  that  which  in  Theodore!  is 
called  T*  e'v^ov  5  in  1  Soz>om>n  is  called  -n  u:xTem,the 
Quire  or  Chancett .  whoaddes  wrhall,  that  \uConftax~ 
ttnopk  the  Emperour  had  his  feat  in  the  faid  /ejxTew  ? 
during  the  celebrating  of  the  holy  Sacrament^  that  fo 
fome  difference  might  bee  made  betwtxc  himfelfc 
and  common  perfons.  Bur  this  being  not  the  ufe  in 
Mj,*;.//#r,Sainf  ^mbrofe  allotted  him  a  place  6'»  £^x-A;v/a, 
within  the  body  of  the  Church ,  -f^  rav  J^ju^i^lc^ 
TV*  I'«?«.T«'V  ,  immediately  before  the  barresth.it  feve 
red  the  Church  and  CljareH.  And  this  hec  did^  that. 
fo  the  Emperour  might  have  place  before  the  people, 
as  had  the  Pricfts  before  the  Emperour.  Thisjdeerely 
fliewcs,thatthe  PrcsbjtertHmjQi  clanccllsNte  not  in  the 
middle  of  the  Church  ,  but  was  dittinft  and  fevered 
from  it  at  one  end  or  other  ^  for  other  wife  how  could 
the  Emperour  have  a  place  betwcene  the  people  and 
the  Priejfj,  before  the  chancellor  Cancel IL  in  cafe  the 
Chance  11  ftood  in  the  very  middeftoftheChurch^and 
all  the  people  round  about  ir.  My  fccond  reafon  (lull 
be  taken  from  a  like  ftorie  of1  Wn?Nciriannt^  one  of  tfie 
fons  of  the  Emperour  Or«/9whocommin^ifito  the  ''"•r'<c-r« 
Courch  at  Anlioch  ,  whereof Sainr  r»il>yLn  was  liifliop, 
and  having  a  dcfire  to  behold  their  myilcries,  quajl 
per  traxfetwaWypnvlly  5as  if  peeping  rhrough  a  Lar- 
tice3was  prefently  rebuked  by  the  Bifhop  for  the  faid 
attempt.  Now  had  the  gntirc  or  Chancell  (looA  in  the 
middle  of  the  Church^and  onely  railed  about,  fothat 
every  man  might  fee  what  was  done  within;  Nt/wc~ 
rianu*  needed  not  to  have  peeped  as  through  a  Lat 
tice  to  behold  their  doings:  for  being  once  within,  it 
was  no  difficultic  to  difcerne  what  they  v/ ere  about. • 


\  X 

Thirdly,  ir  may  bee  proved  from  that  which  was  be 
fore  related  from  Etironius ,  who  tels  us  of  fome 
Churches  (lauding in  his  dayes,which  hadbeenefound- 
cd  in  the  time  of  the  Emperour  Conftantinc,  anddifFe, 
red  nothing  in  theii  forme,  cither  for  fituation,  or  di- 
ftinclion/rom  thofc  fince  creeled.  And  fourthly, fa  m 
the  dcfcription  of  the  (lately  Temple  of  S.  Sophia, 
built  by  lujlinfan  the  Erupcr^ur  :  of  which  Trocopiut 
dothinformeus r, that  the  Quire  or  ( />«/»«//, where 
in  the  holy  myfterics  were  i  elcbrated,  did  Oand  dircft- 
ly  to  the  Eaft  :  for  having  before  dcfcrbedthe  Nave 
or  body  of  the  Temple,  both  for  length,  and  bredrh, 
he  addc$3O<////w/i7//<f  adfol  m  Orient  em  vtr^ttnt.,  nit 
Deo  fara  pcraguaf//^  her  tnodo  adificata  fitvt ;  which 
hee  goes  forwards  to  dcfcribe:  but  what  need  more  be 
faid,thanyou  fay  yourfelfc5who  have  fo  fairly,  for  this 
point,  (lipped  your  ou  nc  neck  out  of  the  Collar,  and 
leftyourL.  the  Bifliop  in  the  lurch  \  For  whereas  he 
re  ft  rs  rhe  Vicar  unto  Bifliop  Lrvell^Q  lee  how  tort^Coni* 
minion-tables  have  flood  in  tic  n&idlt  of  the  Church  : 
you  put  it  to  rhe  <]ueft  ion',  whether  it  befuchaturi 
thing  in  Israel  y  that  the  Tables  heretofore ,  and  the 
br&h  Altars  afterrardi  aid ftandin  the  miJjefl  of  the 
I  lurch  orChancell?\\\?.  middle  of  the  Church  or  Chan- 
<W/,is  not  the  middle  of  the  Churchy  and  fo  you  bid 
£ood  night  at  once  to  both  the  BiOiop?.  The  Altar 
then  ftood  not  in  thebody  of  cheC/J//r<r/;5butiti  the 
Ckancclli  which  was  the  firft  thins  to  be  cleared.  •  < 
Nex,  tthat  the  Altar  or  Lords  Table  was  placed 
in  the  upper  end  of  the  Quire  or  Chancell3  may  bee 
made  evident  by  many  plaine  and  pregnant  reafons, 
which  we  will  marfhall  afcendendo,  fromthistime  up 
wards.  And  firft,  it  may  be  proved  from  thegcnerall 

ufagc 


ufage  at  this  time  in  the  Church  of  Romt  $  which  in  Cap.  7. 
thofe  outward  formes,  no  doubt,  relates  unto  the  ufc 
and  praftire-  of  the  AncKnts:  For  why  fhould  we  con 
ceive/  hat  keeping  ftill  the  Ancient  fafhion  iiithccon- 
trivingofthcirChurches}they  would  dctert  the  ar  ciei  t 
fo.fh:on  in  diftofing  of  their  Alters.     Conceive  mce, 
thar  ic  was  tlm*  ^-ncrjllj  5  a  id  far  the  weft  /vrf ,  as  you 
report  nice  very  rightly^p.^o-  ^  'Gr'  TJ  sroAy ; as  be 
fore  I  faid.  Secondly  from  the  words  ofcWtlafridm 
Strtko^  v.-hcre  hee  u  informes  us, that  in  Saint  Peters 
Church  in  Ro/»^  Alt4rijnont,intunnnQrkutttn>fcA 
cti.tw  in  alias  pjrtrs  ejje  dijlrihuta ;  1  he  /liters  ftood 
not  onely  towards  the  Eaft,  but  in  other  places:  and 
this  he  makes  tobe  aparicular  cafe,  differing  from  the 
general)  ufijze.  The  like  to  which  may  bee  obferved 
in  his  inftances  of  the   Pantheon  in  Rome ,  and  that 
bui't  by  Htltna  in  ///Vr«p'fw3luingborh  round^asal- 
fo  that  he  (ccmzthto  apologize  for  rhen^wbo,  propter 
al'tiuam  Ifcontw  opport unit jteotju ere  lainc  to  fet  •  heir 
altars  otherv/ife  trun  rhe  cuftomc  off  he  Church  per 
mitted.    Now  WaUf'-idits  .S//<f';0  dyed,  as  yourfclfc 
accomptsit  x  ,  Anno  84^   or  thereabouts.  Thirdly, 
fiOmthe  divifion  of  the  Quires  thcmfch'e?,  in  which 
did  firft  accurre  the  Stalls  or  lears  appointed  general- 
ly  for  the  Clcrgie^ncxtyabove  thof.  ,thv  BifliopsChair.,  N.i7ian7.in 
and  then  thc^v,tX5-»;w/,  the  Altar  placer  that  whole 
fpace  which  was  allotted  purpofcly ,  and  folcly  for 
the  Lords  boord ,  or  A//^,  call  it  which  you  will, 
which  was  diftingui  (bed  from  the  reft  of  the  chancell, 
ty  Raiks  or  Curtaines.For  it  appear es  moft  maniftilly 
in  the  ancient  writers,?  thar  5^7ict7-^pwv,  did  noc  one- 
ly  fis.'nJfie  rhe  Mar  or  Ltrds  Boor.l  it  felfc,but  the 
'  whole  fpace  and  place  thereof  5  which  by  the  Latints 

l.ac<Vv.Can.i£ 


Sea.  2 


(»*) 

was  fometimes  diftinguifhed  by  a  proper  name,  and 
called  Altarinm.  Fourthly,  from  that  which  doth  oo 
currein  Socrates,  concerning  the  difpofall  of  the  A/- 
tarj  in  the  Church  ofAntioch  * ,  which  therein  gene 
rally  differed  from  all  other  Churches.How  fo?o'o 


C»,hl'.!>. 


(c)  Art.;,divif. 


Would  you  his  meaning  in  thcfe  words  ?  take  it  ac 
cording  as  you  finde  it  in  NictpherttJ  ofLaitgittj  tranfla- 
tion  •,  *  Sacra  cnim  Ara  nets  <id  Orient  cm  ^  fid  ad  Occi 
dents);  wrfits  ccHoctit a  futrtt $  bccaufe  the  Altar  was 
not  placed  towards  to  tin  Eaft,  but  towards  the  Weft. 
CJJfiodorc  in  his  ''  Tripartite  Hiftory,  rendreth  this 
place  with  more  advantage.  In  Atttiochiavefo  S}ri£^ 
Alt. ire  non  ad  Orient ew  Ecclejtt ,  fed  wagjs  ad  Occi» 
dorttm  bak'/tt-ji  Antioch  they  have  their  A//^,not  at 
the  Eaft  end  of  the  Church,  {adOrhntcm  Ecclcfa} 
but  rather  bending  toward  the  Weft  :  which  makes  ic 
.plsine  in  my  conceit,  that  generally  in  other  places 
the  Altar  ftood  ad  Orient  em  Err/<?^9atthe*Eafterre 
end.  Fiftly^from  that  which  is  affirmed  by  Bifh./nnr//, 
c  who  tells  us  that  the  Quire  or  (<  bitffce!l,(aiid  confe- 
quently  the  Altar.,  and  the  Altar-place )  as  ic  maybe 
gathered  from  Saint  Chryfoflofae^  at  certalnt  times  of 
ike  fervicejfasdr  Awne  with  Citrtawes^  Now  if  the  Holy 
Table  ftood  in  the  midle  of  the  Ckaticett,  and  was 
thus  hanged  about  with  O'yfalnes^  there  being  fpace 
enough  within  for  all  the  Vriefts  and  Deacons,  which 
attend  fit  the  holy  Miniftery  5  you  cannot  but  con 
ceive  in  your  imagination  j  that  it  muft  needs  be  very 
unfightly,  and  take  up  much  more  roome,  than  in  a 
Clianccll  could  bee  fpared.  But  letthe2V//^bedifpo- 
fed  of  at  the  upper  end,  and  then  a  T  raver  ft  Curtain* 
/EC  betweene  the  Table  and  the  people  ;and  both 

thofe 


thofe  inconveniences  will  be  avoyded,  which  before  I  Cap.  7 
fpakeof.  And  laftof  all,it  may  bee  pleaded  from  a 
conftantcuftomeofthe  Chri(thns5in  praying;  towards 
theE.ift,  d  Ad  orient 'is  rtgionem^'lertitllUn  harhi:$  ^APr'!°S 
*.{  file/a*  Oriwtif  pjrtem,  as  ic  is  in  Origen:  of  which,  ^HjuiU.? 
though  many  reafons  are  alfijned  by  ff^m/V?,/?.//^-  uN-imc;, 
ntr/f^nd  others  of  the  Church  of  Rome^yct  I  conceive, 
there  cannot  a  more  prob.ible  reafon  be  ^iven  there- 
of,th.n  from  rhe  placing  of  the  holy  Table  at  the  Edft 
rv/of  the  Church.'  for.th.it  being  thought  to  bee 
more  ficred  th.in  any  materiill  tiling  befidcs  to  the 
Church  belonging,  had  a  farre  greater  mcafure  of 
reverence  and  devotion  conferred    upon  it.    ,'£p£V 
aitTTct.'!*)!  rmyifys  •>  a  reverent  Pilutation  of  the  'l'a- 
ble  Fin  Dioayfitt\  ri^i  ^o-jxrii^  9  an  honour  pro-  f 
per  to  the  /iltar,  in  8  ignstitts  ^  an-'l  genicttl.it in  a.ijras^ 
a  bo\ving  of  the  knee  before  ic,  in  h  Tertttl/ij».  And  fh>  dc 
therefore  in  v/hat  place  foever  i:  was  placed  or  flcu-  lcni- 
Gtcd5t:hele  were  the  peoples  eyes  moft  like  to  be  fixed 
aad  fetled,  and  their  afpcfts  turned  th.it  way  in  the 
time  of  prayer^  as  being  that  which  they  moft  longed 
.for,  and  looked  after,  and  of  the  which  they  mofldc- 
fircd  to  bee  partakers.    Adds  here  that  Dawtfccn  o!>- 
ferve5,  '  that  when  our  Saviour  Chrift  was  upon  t!ie  fi\ 
CrofTe,  his  face  was  Weft  ward,  fothnt  all  they  that  vaya 
looked  upon  him,  ordefiredto  feehim,did  look?  to-  AVo 
v/ardsthe  Eaft^  which  were  it  fo  ,  the  ^//^vb.-ifvMo  ^.^' 
lively  a  reprefentadon  of  the  CrolTe  ofChrri  mi^Iir  :i-i: 
bee  difpofed  of  fo  in  the  Church  or  Chancel!,  is  that 
the  people  (hould  looke  Eaft\vard,that  dcfircdtofee 
it :  andif  placed  Eaftward  for  that  reafoa,  then  dou!>:- 
!e(Te  in  the  uppermoft  and  moft  eminent  place  of  the 
Quire  or  Chancell  3  fo  that  no  man  who  ever  fliouUl 

have 


Sc&.  2,  have  place  beyond  it  J^or  if  that  any  man  had  had  place 
beyond  it,  eit her  heemuft  not  pray  towards  theEaft, 
ssthe  others  did;  or  praying  towards  the  Eaft,  could 
not  fee  the  Altar  5  which  was  moft  looked  after  by  all 
the  reft. 

)p."j-  Now  whereas  you  defirek  the  Do&or  "not  to  for- 

cc  get  to  tell  you  in  his  next  booke3  where  God  or  his 
"  blefled  Sonne,  or  the  Apoftles .,  or  the  Fathers  after 
cc  thcm3or  any  CouncelljOrany  Canon  Iaw3orfo  much 
"as  a  Popes  Bull,  hath  commanded  any  Chriftian 
<e  Church  to  fet  their  Altars  all  along  the  nail  :  I  an- 
fwer  you  by  asking  another  queftion,  where  you  can 
find  it  was  commanded  ,  that  Chriftians  ihould  pray 
wich  their  faces  Eaftward.  Things  that  have  gene 
rally  beene  received  in  the  Church  of  Child,  are  ge 
nerally  conceived  to  have  been  derived  from  dpoftoli- 
caU  tradition, without  any  fpeciall  tffatzdat,\cft  in  Scrip* 
tit,  for  the  doing  of  them.  Praying  direAly  towards 

0)quad         the  Eaft,  is  by  fome  Fathers,as l  J//^/»  A/^r//r,8cB1S. 

(nO./cS..'.s.      Kiifl^  conceived  to  bee  of  that  condition  5  and  Damaf* 

c.i;'.»7.  cert  conceives  fo  too,  dt  Qrthod.  FhJ.lib.  4,  c.  i  ^.  Why 

may  wee  not  conceive  the  like,  of  fctting  up  the  Altar 
all  alongtlc  »W/,that  it  hath  bcene  commended  to 
u?,ifnotby  L>->'p^//<rtf//,yetqucftionleiTe3by  Ecclef- 
afticall  tradition.  OoMct  yap  ei\sai<pa;  >j.uT» /«A^w» 

fn>'cOuh,fid  as  thc  faid "  Dwajcen  hath  truly  noted.  Many  things 
come  unto  our  hands  by  a  fuccetfionall  tradition ,  for 
which  wee  cannot  finde  an  exprefle  command  in  any 
of  thofe  wayes  you  fpeake  of:  which  yet  we  ought  to 
cntertaine,  fx  i)i  cati.olic&.  confitctttdittif)  by  reafon  of 
the  faid  tradition;and  continuall  cuftome.  Of  which 
traditions  there  are  many  which  dill  rttaine  their 
force  amongft  uiia  England  I  particularly  thofc  which 

arc 


r  •• 

(22 1) 

are  moft  pertinent  to  the  prefent  bufinefle,  viz.  the  Cap.  7. 
turning  of  our  felves  unto  the  Eaft,  in  our  publicke 
prayers ;  and  the  difpofing  of  our  Churches  accor 
dingly.  And  why  not  then  in  placing  of  the  holy  Table, 
or  Altar  &\(o°}  This  Church,  the  Lord  he  thanked  for 
ic,  hath  ftood  more  firme  for  dpojloliral/ and  Ecr/efa« 
J?/Vrf#traditionsfincetheKej^w<///0#j  than  any  ether 
whatfoeverof  the  Reformation.  Nor  in  the  times  be 
fore  can  you  finde  out  any,  that  itood  more  ftrongly 
for  and  in  the  Churches  cttfomeSt  If  you  have  found, 
after  much  ftudy  and  long  fearchj  a  °  round  Church  (0)^.::*. 
in  Cambridge  .>  and  around  Temple  in  London  ^  ran  you 
conclude  from  thence,  that  generally  our  Churches 
here,  hav«  net  beene  built  according:  to  the  Ancient 
patternes  ?  if  nor,  how  excellent  a  difcourfer  doe  you 
fliewyourfelfe  in  the  application.  You  might  as  well 
\  ave  gathered,that  all  the  Churches  in  Cambridge's 
frnn  \  North  and  South^  becaufe  you  finde  ir  fo  in  Emu- 
»/<f/Colledge:  or  that  all  the  M/#tftfrs  in  Lincoln* 
foirt  arc  perfect  in  rhe  arts  ofraylinp/alfifyinp,  and  de- 
ceiving,bf  caufe  you  know  oforie,-  hat  is.  But  that  fine 
(lory  which  you  teJJ  us  P  ot  S.  /injUns  Altar,  is  indeed  <?J ,P§."J-Alt4' 

CL  i    t_          /  I         - 1 1        1 1  •    •  cx  ?ed-  h^ 

your  matter-peece  :  and  therefore  1  will  teJ  rrmyour  Li.c.j. 
vciy  words,  becaufe  its  your  defire  wezfionldtnarkg 
ft  rretf.You  fav,that "  duftin  the  Apoilk  of  the  Saxons 
tc  placed  his  firft  esiltar  in  the  Cathedral!  .Church  at 
"  Dover  dedicated  to  S  JV/wand  S.  Paui:  and  that 
c'  h<*  placed  this  Altar.,  in  media  fu/pt  ne^  alrnoft  in  the 
*:very  njdft  thereof,  and  dedicated  it  to  the  honour 
ccofS.  G'f^orj  the  Pope:  and  that  the  Pricft  of  the 
<c  place  doth  on  that  Altar  every  S.il !  ath  day  perform 
"  the  <?g  n«s  of  fhi-  .:i'J1tn  and  S.  Gregory.  \  fcrciipon 
you  inierrc,  as  Ly  way  of  Triun^ph,  *•  ^W/i./a'nv  /<•' 


__ 


"  'ww  ^f»  no  Church  °f  3^  fkc  &*%[$  nation, 
<c  imitate  herein  her  firft  Metropolis?  Icisimpoifiblc 
ccit  Ihouldbe  fo.  I mpodiblc  indeed,  if  ic  bee  true,  as 
you  have  told  us:  butforourcomfort,thcre's  not  one 
word  true,  in  all  this  ftory.  Nor  doe  I  thinke  that  you 
intended  it  for  any  thing,  but  a  winters  t-.ile^  to  drive 
away  the  cold  within  a  chimney  corner,  when  there  is 
no  fire.  For  fo  rediculous  a  confidence  have  you 
col  ••  it  with,  as  they  have  the  hap  to  heareic  (axdilttnt 
asmifii  r/fi/ffj,  and  you  know  what  foilowcs)  will  catch 
them  (elves  an  heat  with  laughing.  To  rake  a  view 
thereof,  per  partcs^  Where,  J  befecch  you,  did  the 
man  ever  hcarc  of  a  Cathedrall  Church  at  Dover  ?  the 
Au  hor whom  you  follow,  doth  cal' ic  Da*wtr*l£M* 
terbttrit)  in  tlur  very  chapter  %  and  ll<ghcivitas^\\<* 
Regill  cicic,  lib,  i.r./p.  35.  Secondly,  the  Cathedrall 
C'uirch  at  Canterbury  was  r.ot  dedicated  to  S.  Peter 
'  Ml  i  cap  ??.  ani^  ^'  p</;'Abut,  as  your  Author  tcls,  i-i*  nomine fantti 
Stlvatorit)  Or/  &  Domltn  xoflri  It>fu  C/r//W4  unto  the 
honour  of  lefits  <  hrifl  our  Lord  and  Saviour:  and  is 
calleJ  chrifts  church  to  this  day.  As  for  the  Chuch 
you  meane^edicatedtoS.P^/^^an^S.  P^«/,that  was  a 
MonafterieChurchj  and  no  Cathedrall}  which, from 
the  founder  after  wards,  was  called  S.  4*/?4*s.Thi?dly9 
i  is  not  Did  in  BtJa,  that  Aitftin  the  Apol\le  of  the 
Stxont  did  place  this  Altar^  in  thar  Church :  hut  only, 
Habtf  Ifc  In  mcdioptipcne  Altartfhtt  in  that  Church 
tl.crc  is  an  Altar,  placed  alnioft  in  the  middle  of it^  but 
ea  ^y  whom  God  knovves  5  the  Church  noc being r  fini- 
,  fl'1Cfl  when  this  JwJHit  died.  Fourthly,your  Author 
.  Ibid,  doth  not  fay  that  the  faid  hltar  was  S.  kit  fins  firft  A  /- 
tar^  no  fuch  matter  neither;  the  placing  of  that  A/- 
far  was 'no  leading  cafe :  but  only  halet  k*c  A/^r^tbat 

there 


there  was  an  Altar.  Fifcl/jyou  finde  it  not  in  F*</*,  Cap.?. 
that  the  X^ff^  of  Pope  Grtgorie,  and  the  faidS.  Au- 
J?*#5\verc  celebrated  by  the  Prieft  of  the  place  upon 
that  Altar,  howfocvcr  fitiuted.  Your  Author  faith, 
A&ndt.  cortiMyKQt  of  S.  Gregory  and  S.  Auftin^  but  ra- 
thcrof  7/xW0re  and  TScrtlrrald^  two  of  the  Arch- 
Bifhops,  vvhofe  bodies  only  when  EeJt  writ,  had  been 
entombed  within  the  Church.  Sixtly,  your  Author 
doth  not  Cry,  that  their  Agenda,  whofoevcr  they  were, 
•were  celebrated  every  Sabbath  day  (as  you  meane  Sab 
bath  </,/;,  and  would  have  ignorant  people  underftand 
your  meaning)but  only  every  Saturday^  per  omoe  Sab- 
batHtn.  \i  had  bcene  very  fair  el  y  done,  had  you  ex- 
preflcd  you  Authors  proper  I*///>e,  in  as  proper 
Englt/fji&  called  it  SatvrJaj^  as  you  ou^ht  to  do,fpcak-  . 
ing  in  Engli/fj  ro  the  people,  who  as  they  arc  not '  all  • J 
Geometricians,  fo  are  they  neither  all  fuch  Latinijis  as 
todifcrieyour  falfchoodin  it.But  we  muft  take  this  for 
another  of  your  Mentis  to  pleafc  the  Puritans :  who 
now  are  farnifhed  with  an  Argument,  to  prove  that 
th<r  Lords  day  was  called  the  Sabbath^  8c  fo  reckoned  in 
the  time  of  /to/^and  therfore  not  fo  late  an  Vpihrt,as 
fomemen  have  made  it  Ncy.rofalforyourftrongcon- 
clufKin.thatit  is  utterly  impefsiblt^thttt  no  Church  of 
the  Engli^"  nation  ll  ottld imitate  ktrein  her  Jirft  Metro* 
potts :  when  you  have  proved  that  the  Had  Church 
there  mentioned,  wasthe//>/?  Metropelk)  wee  will  tell 
you  n'.orc.iVlear.c  rime  wee  have  a  faire  acknowled^c- 
ment^:hat  the  Parochial  1  Churches  ought  to  imitate 
the  Metropolis  or  Mother  Church,  in  ihcfe  outward 
forme?:clfc  yo  i  had  never  ma'if  it  fuch  an  alfokre  im* 
P'  (Iibi!i:y.Thp.r  no  Church  of^e  f-ffc  V/7>  nr.  io'  fl-ou'd 
imitate  herciu  Ler  fiiit  ^ti.t^tn.  i.\^  v. crt  tl  if  all3 

the 


.  1<  the  moft  that  you  have  got  by  this  fine  relation,  (  be* 
fides  the  fport  that  you  have  made)  is  thst  an  Altar  in  a 
private  Monafterie,  did  ftand  fo  media f cite fiti^  almoft 
in  the  middeft  thereof:  which  polTiblc  might  bee,  be- 
caufc  the  Church  not  bein£  ftnifhed  when  Saint  Auftin 
died,  was  not  compleatly  finifhed,  neither,  when  Eede 
wrote  the  ftory.  How  ever  it  is  there  related,  as  a  par 
ticular  and  exTaordinary  cafe:  and  extraordinary  cafes 
make  no  generall  ufiges,  iHeflc  it  be  with  fuch  a  dif- 
putant  as  you  ,  who  like  a  drowning  man,  are  faine  to 
Jay  hold  on  every  thing  But  wee  will  venture  with 
you  further,  and  tell  you  that  the  Altar  wlihh/Wrf 
fpeakcsofwas  noc  the />/£/>///,/»•,  as  tiny  call ir,  dcAi- 
nate  for  the  celebrating  of  the  djily  offices ,  which  al- 
waies  ftood  within  the  Quire  or  Ouncel!  i  but 
a  particular  Altar,  for  particular  orFcts,  which  miphe 
be  well  inou^h  ertfted  in  any  parr  of  the  Church 
\vhatevcr,  either  in  the  middle,  or  rhe  fidts;  a*  Hill 
fuch  Altars  are  in  the  Church  of  Rome.  And  rhik  you 
might  have  feene,  had  you  well  confided  it.  Fi>ft 
from  the  \votdsjjafat  fw  in  media  fenefri,  Alt<trtj\MX> 
almoft  in  the  middle  of  the  Church,  there  was  an 
Attjr:  which  fhewes  that  hee  intended  it  not  of  the 
high  A//<//\as  they  called  ic  •.  then  from  the  ufe,  whi«.  h  ' 
was  for  the  particular  Offices  or  Ag*W<*(as  you  fay)  of 
Gregory  and  A*/?/#,  but  as  1  fay  of  TbfoJore  and  Ktrtb* 
nvA/  the  two  Arch  Bifliops :  and  laftly  from  rhe  time 
in  which  icw.isfoufcd,  not  everyday,  but  onely  per 
om»>;  Sjbbatinn,  on  every  Saturday.  All  put  together 
make  up  this,  that  in  thut  Church  there  was  a  parti- 
cular  Attar  for  particular  Offices,  to  be  performed  on  a 
particular  day$  and  confequcntly  the  Altar  fct  in  a 
particular  place  (from  the  other  Altars)  for  that  very 
purpofc.  Now 


c"  5). . 

'  Now  from  the  evidence  which  you  brought  us  Cap.  7*. 
couching  the  Antient  Itanding  of  the  Altars  >  in  the 
Church  ot  England,  in  point  of  praftife  :  wee  rnufl: 
proceed  to  fee  what  is  determined  of  and  for  ir5  now 
jn  point  of  Law.  For  if  the  prefer.t  Lav/  bee  contrary 
to  theantient  pra&ife}  theantient  praftife  mull  give 
way,  and  the  Law  fnall  carry  it.  Now  for  our  barter 
understanding  how  the  Lav/  hath  ordered  it.  the  Bi- 
fnops*  letter  to  the  Vicar  of  Gr.  refers  us  to  the  h.u-  fa)CoM.|>.7-. 
bricl^  and  the  Canon\  wee  will  look  on  both.  And  f*Mt  rMr- 
firft  beginning  with  the  nnbricl^  it  is  Ordered  thus,  •(•b.)Kubuci 
chat  h  the  'fable  at  Cow  it;  union  tiMeJ)ai)in<*  afaire  nhite  wiorc  t!-<- 
linnen  chath  upotr  itfialljlanJin  the  body  of  the  Church,  Cy  "':iil'l5:' '"' 
or  in  the  Chancell ^  where  wonting  and  evening  prajer 
be  appointed  to  bee  fold.  So  fair h  the  Rubric  k^  and  for 
the  former  part  thereof,  there  is  not  any  thing  that 
canferve  for  your  prefcnt  purpofe.  The  Table,  in 
Communion  time,  doth  (bind  in  the  Chancell:  though 
it fbhd  Altar  jr(/?3  clofe  along  the  wall:  and  in  the 
ChancclliQO)  i.e.  in  the  moft  eminent  part  of  it.  The 
writer  of  the  letter  faw  this  well  enough:  and  to 
avoyd  the  confequence  could  finde  no  better  fhift  up 
on  the  fudden.,  than  to  corrupt  the  Rubric!^  which 
\vasdoneaccordingly.  For  in  the  c  letter  to  the  I'icar  (c/CoalP^ 
iv{lcj.dofrvtkclw<'fjoftl.}c  church^  or  in  the  Ckancell* 
we  had  it3in  the  body  oftLc  Church^  or  of  the  Chanrcll: 
as  if  the  Rttbricl^diA  appoint,  that  in  thofc  places 
wliere  the  Communion  was  adminiftred  in  the  <•  han- 
r//,thc  Table  fliould  bcc  placed  at  that  time  in  the 
body  of  the  Chancdl.  It's  trueyyour  new  Edition  reads 
ic, x  in  the  Chancell :  but  then  it  is  as  true.,  that  in  your  (»>'*• 
,   hook,  you  fall  upon  the  former  fault,  and  read  it.  in 
the  body  of  th  Church  or  Chancell \  p. 44.  and  (b  you 

TV  <  !o 


Sedl.  2.     doagaine,  fitting  the  Canon  to  the  Litter  of  the  old 
Edition,andnootherwifc,  In  the  bdyoffhe  Cbvrfh, 
oroftheChancett.y.iQ6.  I  fee  your  finders  are  fo  nim 
ble,  there  can  nothing  fcape  you.  Then  for  the  body 
ofths  C/;//r6.however  it  was  put  unto  the  QucfHon, 
v  -*;»i%    yin  the  Bifhops  letter,  that  being  the  Rubric!^  faith, 
*ci$fa*ii**    r'llc  ftblcfluilljiarrditt  the  body  of  the  church^  or  of  the 
,-/.'«. and  j>  \9.    CkanccU)  rrkcrc  morning  andevemsgprayer  b~:  appointed 
t,fib!l)»!/table  tobef.iij^  an. I  />.  ing  that  morning  and eveningprtyer  be 
tippoJvtedto  be  ft'diy  f  he  body  of  the  Church  (/#  iuwofl 
country  Churches  irtc  fee  it  fa)  where  Jhould  the'fable 
flandmoft  Canonical!)-  ?  yet  you  recant  ic  in  your  book. 
(-,}  p.zoj.ao4.  You  tell  us  that  the  writer  of  the  letter  did'  never  ima- 
gi;ie,  that  the  Table  fiouU  flandmoft  Canonically  in 
//jcbodic  of  the  Church  :  but  ovely  that  the  Canons  al- 
luir  it  not  to  be  fixed  to  the  end  of  the  gtiire ;  but  to  bee 
Wtidtiofwoveable  nature^  to  wcct  with  thofc  cafes  in  the 
ljiv>  in  rehtch  without  thisfranfffljin^  thereof  upon  oc- 
caJwnSj  the  Minifter  cannot  bee  l:eard  of  his  Congregati 
on.  This  is  but  fmall  amends,fave  that  you  let  us  there 
in  fee5you  are  irrcfolute  in  your  felfc,  and  know  not 
unto  what  to  truft.  It's  true,  the  Rubric^ founding 
one  way, and  rhe  continual  1  pr  a  ft  ice  of  the  church  an* 
other  way  \  ic  might  perplex  as  wife  a  man,  as  I  know 
who  is,  to  find  out  the  intention  of 'the  Rubric^  and 
the  reafon  of  ir.  Yet  would  you  give  me  leave  to}  ufe 
a  briefer^' •£?«/?,  and  nor  upbraid  me  for  it  in  your 
next  a (fnii It,  I  fhould  make  bold  to  tell  you  my  opini 
on  in  k.  Encerfl.  modciMrc  nnd  innenious  man,  in  his 
furvcyorcenfurc  o(  the  firft  Litt/rgie9  aobferved  that 
ail  Divine  Offices  were  celebrated  in  the  Q^ire,  or 

conceived  to  be  a  Popifli  cuftome,  b  (perhaps  bccaufe 


(j)Cc:»fma. 


ft  might  afcribe  unto  the  place  and  Prieft  fome  inhc-  Cap.  7. 
rcntfan&ide,and  wifheththatafliarp  and  fuddcn  re- 
mediefhould  be  provided  tor  the  fame.  Hereupon  in 
the  fecoad  Litttrgie,  th-j  appointing  of  che  place  for 
tnornittga&diveninzpMizi  was  lefr  unto  the  Or  din*- 
He:  and  as  it  feemeth  by  this  Rubric^  the  holy  Sa 
crament  was  to  be  there  adminUtred,  where  he  fo  ap 
pointed.  Whetherichath  been  praftiled  accordingly, 
I  cannot  poficively  fay  ^  but  if  at  all,  it  was  nut  r.tro  ant 
nunqttarn^  thing  feeldomc  fccn :  and  polfiMy  the  very 
(W<r  might  as  much  take  off  the  opinion  ot  inherent 
fanftitie  (if  that  were  then  the  matter  queftioned,)  as 
the  execution.  Which  were  it  fo,  the  reofoa  of  the 
law  being  ceafed,  the  law  ceafcth  ajfo.  But  this  1  on 
ly  offer  as  a  confider,uion5and  no  more  than  fo. 

Then  for  the  82.CV//W/,  there  it  is  faid, cc  that  in  the 
"time  of  the  Communion,  the  Table  (hall  bee  placed 
"  in  fo  good  fort  within  iheChurch  or  Chancell ta&  ther- 
uby  the  Minifter  may  more  conveniently  be  heard  of 
c<the  Communicants,  in  his  prayer  and  miniftration^ 
ccand  the  Communicants  alfo  more  conveniently, 
Cc  and  in  more  number  may  communicate  with  thefJid 
Minifter.  Now  hereunto  the  Dccloranfwered,  c  that  (c;ai/.r.^ 
this  \vasapertafffi0n  rather,that  fo  it  might  be,  than  a 
comrnand,that  (b  it  fhouldbee :  and  zpcrmifiion  onely 
rn  fuch  times  tind  f'A/m,  rrkre  cfbrirrfc  the  Mia/jfer 
cannot  convftiifntly  If  leardofthr  CvmftninicautS'  The 
writer  of  the  letter  fe<  mcsto  tinnra.;  nrich,  where  he 
aftirmcth,  the  A  placing  of tlwTrfk  n7r/v//f  Alt.ir/.VW  fd.t.nt.ttt'-e 
if  the  f/toft  fkccat  fitt-ation  trice  'f  if  Not  ///?./.,  <?//'./  r'i4'-I>'70' 
for  ufe  too  rrhc/e  ike  j^v//v  u  u.oitnte.l  i/p  ly  fttppfs^ 
and  open,  fo  that  heemkiih  of  Jin  ales  way  l>et  [due  a/:. I 
ketrdofalllhc  congtegition.  If  fo,  then  certainly  the 


;  .  i 


0*8) 

Secl.2«  CM; on  isnot£*W*9g  for  all  time?  and  place?,  for  then 
rhe  writer  of  the  letter  would  bee  no  good  Canoaifl^ 
but  rather  a  dtrettive  Canon  .>  to  guide  us  as  occafion  is, 
:md  as  may  bee  convenient  for  the  Communicants. 
Now  where  you  fall  upon  the  Doctor,  for  faying  it  is 
a  matter  of/w///)J/<?#rathcr  than  command  :  becaufe 
'fay  youjhe  lievcrend  hoitfe  of  Convocation  is  not  con* 
-jetted  to  make  pfr/J/ififnj,  that  men  may  dee  ivhat  ihty 
///?•  but  tfl  wakeftrong  arid  binding  Canons,  to  bee  obey- 
cdbyaUthe  ful'je&S)  and  purfite  d  by  all  i  he  Ordinaries 
fifth1:  Kivgchwic  :  In  faying  this,  you  doe  notonely 
thwart  your  #//Z>0p.but  confute  your  Kivg.FoT  if  it  bee 
to  bee  pxrfitcdly  al/t/:;  Ordinaries  in  the  Kingdom? .,  ill 
<iid  the  IMfliop  ftare  the  Queftion,  in  faying  the  Table 
fxightftjndwkcrt  the  s>ltar(lood^at  the  upper wJoftbe 
Quire  or  Chancell./*  cafe  the  M/wJier  ma)  befecvt  and 
leardojallibi  Coxgrfgatroff.findon  tlie  other  fide  yen 
both  confute  the  K/'-vg,  and  jour  felfeto  bcote.  The 
Ki»&  in  that  hce  hath detcrn.ineJ,  that  placing  ofthe 
1  able  in  Church  or  Chancell^  as  both  the  Rubricist 
and  the  Canon  have  refolvcd  therein,is  to  bee  conrtru- 
ed  only  a  thing  of//7w/j.And  being  a  thing  of  libtrtic^ 
is  left  unto  the  Judgement  ofthe  Ordinaric,  both  for 
tl:e  tl.jng  it  fclfe^  and  for  the  time  rvheff,  andhorrlon^ 
ds  he  Miiyfindecaufc*  Tour /clfe,  iii  that  you  have  fele- 
ftcd  that  particular  pafTagc  '  for  your  F.ttge  iintt/i^  aiul 
Lo'iourcd  that  alone  with  your  mentis  attrtf  vcrba 
l>/-<i(?c<ila  ;  as  before  was  noted.  Bcfidcs,  yon  mayob- 
fervc  in  tlic  Declaration.,  that  thofe  who  pleaded  for 
\\\c/ipp(U.ints\\\  S.Gn-gories  cafe,  urged  not  the  Ca~ 
r.on  nor  the  Rubric!^  fotfiroHgandbladinglaws.jis  you 
plcafe  to  call  them :  but  onely  urged  them  to  this 
'  pnrpofc;  that  s  they  4i3  give  yermifian  to  place  the  Ta- 

bk 


tfg  where  It  might  ptntt  with  rttofl  ftttefle  dttcoHW*.  £a  • 
tftce.  So  that  you  fee,  the  Carton  and  the  Rubric!^  are    "  *  * 
fermifioffs  onely,  and  noc  commands  j  which  is  but 
what  the  Do&or  faid  :  and  which  you  fee  confirmed 
by  your  Lord^the  Ordtnane^  the  Advocates  in  the  plea 
arorcfaid,  rhc  Ki*g<>  <p*i  tot  impcrat  legionibvf  ^  and 
which  is  rnoft  ofalijTottrfelfi. 


fratrif,nec  tc  me  a  gratia  tangit^  (h)O  vid.Mct? 

At  Car  mjfcrere  tni.  **•»• 


s5theC^w*  being  generall.was  fo  to  bee  drawn 
up,  as  it  might  meet  with  all  particular  cafes  of  what 
fort  foever.  Now  you  know  well  enough  ,  that  in 
fomc  churches  there  are  no  Chincels,  and  moft  efpe- 
cially  in  thofe  of  a  later  building:  and  foraefuchyou 
may  findein  London*  if  you  plealc  to  look.  So  that  in 
cafe  the  Canon  had  named  onely  Chancels,  it  might 
have  left  fome  Churches  without  Communions,  be- 
caufe  they  had  no  Chaff  ee  ft  inthe  whicji  to  celebrate  5 
and  fo  by  confequence  there  had  been  no  remcdie,  in 
andbytheC*/w/»^  if  the  Communion  fhould  ootbee 
duely  miniftred  by  the  Pricft,  or  not  fo  frequently 
received  by  the  people,as  it  oughc  to  be. 


R  3  G  H  A  ?< 


2. 


CHAP.    VIII. 

An  anfwcr  to  the  Minifor  of  Lincolns  Afgu- 
mcnts  againft  the  (landing  of  the  Lords  Ta 
ble  at  the  upper  cu  J  o!  the  Quire. 


The  Mit.tftcr  tfUncoln  forfeits  his  Bifliop,  abottt  thepLtcing 
of  the  Altar  in  the  body  of  the  £  Iwc h.  The  Altar  ta 
Eufcbius  Pautrryrtck^  not  in  the  middle  of  the  Church. 
The  Miniftcrs  ccxfidence  and  ignorance ,  in  pl,tci-»g  tie 
A\t*r  ef  InccnCcc/o/e  unto  the  vatic.  Toftatiu  falfified  by 
the  Mimftcr0/~  Lincoln.  KI/XAW  Svffi*&fiv  in  the  fift  COMH+ 
«r//c/"Conftantinoplc,  Attdthemeaningofit*  The  Minifter 

*nd  Latin.  Varro  corrupted  by  the  MiniUer  of  Lincoln* 
Stunt  Auftin  what  hee  meant  by  mcnfailla  in  medio  con. 
Oituta.  Albafpinus  faffificd.  Durandus  fcts  the  Altar  at 
the  upper  cvdofthc  Qutrc»  The  testimony  of  Socrates  and 
Niccpliorus,  averted  to  the  Do  Ti  or  from  /<£><•  Minilkrs  C<«. 
•vils.  The  Altars /;e7*>  notv  placed  in  th:  Greek  Churches, 
'•  The  &ea{^  <wthfrtties prodxccdby  the  Minifter  of  Ltncolnjl 
for  placing  of  the  Table  dtftnut  fro  m  the  iva//t  and  fomc 
*f  them  corruptfi  'alfo.  The  gcncr.tll  Precedents  of  the 
.M inill cr  ,fsr pitting ofthclivlj  ~T ^blc- forged :  as a/fo  are  the 
Alls  of  the  C'cw/,tr<«//oyMillaincwWfrCorromeo.7"/;r  ML 
nif*cr  cinftjjtth  g'tilty  ,  -and  confutes  himfelfe  of  fatjifi- 

ctnox,    <J?>l.iHj   p. irticttl.tr   Pr<ccdf"ts  brvuffht  i»\  mod 

.     ,  '    r  iS  *       j 

fj  tiji'nj  cotmtfrjt'tt  ani  jjrgcai  a*d  tjf together  conclude 

nothing  to  the  point  in  hand,Tht  Miniftcr  of  Lincoln  again  ft 
him,  e/Jtt 

ving  made  fcarch  at  home,  and  not  found 
3n||  any  thiug  unto  the  contrary,  cither  in  the  Rv~ 
ricl(Qi  chc  Canon^  but  that  the  Table  may  bee 
placed  where  die  i/iltar  flood  5  and  that  as  well  in 

the. 


„     ft 

the  Communion  time,  a»  at  other  times  r  wee  muft   Cap.  p. 

next  take  a  view  of  what  you  have  to  fay  for  the  an 

cient  practice-  Not  in  the  Church  ofEvg/^that 

you  have  done  withall  already,  and  done  it  bravely 

too,  no  man  ever  better  :  for  you  hive  found  a  Mo- 

nallcrie,  and  that  hardly  finifhcd,  wherein  an  Altar, 

dcitinatc  to  particular  and  efpcdallufes^uponfome 

fpeciall   and  extraordinary  reafons  9  did  Hand    iff 

mtdio  fene  Cut  ,  not  in  the  middle  of  the  Church, 

as  the  letter  goeth,  but  almoft  in  the  middle  of  ir. 

In  that  which  followcs  wee  muft  travell  after  you, 

over  all  the  world  :  Firit  taking  a  review  of  thofe  au 

thorities  which  were  rel.ited  to  in  the  Bifhops  let- 

ter,  and  anfwcred  by  the  Doctor  in  his  Cost  from  tie 

Altar.  The  writer  of  the  letter,  to  let  the  Vicar  fee, 

1  how  long  Communion  Tables  httd  flood  in  the  midjt  of  (i}p.77« 

the  Chttrc  A,  (not  in  the  midft  of  c  h.-mcels  or  clwrches^ 

as  you  make  it  now5p.2oy.)  referred  him  unto  Uifhop 

The  teftimonies  there  produced  k  are  from  (k  );*•«&  Art. 
Dnrandtts^  and  the  firt  Councell 


of  Conftant'mople.  Beginning  with  F///t^/V/f,Uieetcls 
us  of  the  Church  of  T>n'3  that  bein-J  finiflied  and  all 
the  fears  thereof  fet  up.  $  iVet<r»  rl  TO  ray  iyw  i'y»o» 
5t^j<x7*«piovi  e?  [Aw  Jiiti  the  u  founder  after  all,  pla- 
wced  the  molt  holy  Altar  in  the  midft  thereof,  and 
<c  compared  it  about  v/ith  rayles,  to  hinder-the  rude 
cc  multitude  from  prertin^  neereit.Nov/  hereunto  the 
ct  Do£lor  anfwered,  firft  that  the  Altar  though  it  ftood 
"  along  the  Eaftern  wal!3ic  may  be  well  interpreted  to 
"  becyiccVajtnthe  middle  of  theChancell5m  reference 
"  to  the  North  and  South,  as  it  fince  hath  itood.  And 
"fecondly  that  were  it  other  wife,  yet  it  were  only  JL 
"  particular  cafe  of  the  Church  in  ^r/«r,  wherein  the 

R'4  "people 


^       ^       w 

Scdl.  2.  cf  People  being  more  mingled  with  the  KVM  than 
"  in  other  places,  might  portibly  place  the  Altar  in 
cc  the  middle  of  the  Churches  was  the  Mtar  offacfxfe 
uinthemidftof  the  Tempk^  the  better  to  conforme 
cc  unto  them.  And  this  hee  was  the  rather  inclined 
to  think,  bee  a-ife  that  Church  in  the  whole  frra&ure 
of  ityrame  very  ncerc  unto  the  modell  of  that  Tern* 
pie :  the  Gate  or  entrance  of  the  fame  being  TTW?  aV 
rls  ewKr^oj  nAiV  x^'vat*  dirc&lyopcnto  theEjir, 
as  wat,  that  of  s^owons.  Now  you  rcplic  unto  the  firft, 

(afccrafcoffcortwobcftowedonthe  fimplc  Doftor) 
fm^.to?.        j^^  yOU  .jiacj  r|lo.J  g^j.  n,  c|ie  p^//(?^  jrjj}  jn  EU fib  jus  had 

bcene  defcribing  in  that  place  a  brave  Chanccll,  fct  all 
about  with  feates  and  other  Ornaments,  and  thathcc 
liad  placed  the  Altar  in  thcw/jjtfofrhat  Chtnccll.  The 
liidiopof  Lincoln  had  fmall  rcafonto^ro^^of  this, 
had  he  fo  through  lyperufcd  your  book,  as  the  Licence 
tels  us.  He  fends  the  Vicar  unto  Bifhop  lentllj.®  learn 
how  long  Communion  Tables  have  flood  in  the  middle 
of  tie  Church  :  and  you  confute  both  him  and  B.L-nvZf, 
by  placing  of  the  Altarv\  the  midft  ofrhe  (hanccB.Do 
not  youtalkc  of  Butter  think  you,  when  hcc  f;>oke  of 
Checfe.  For  contrary  to  what  hee  purpofed,  and 
unit' j4-  n  you  u  ere  Salaried  to  defend,  we  have  here  found  an 
ttdt/nd  4ltar  in  the  rnidft  of  the  c  hanrcl^  in  ftea-l  of  a  Cow- 
ji,  '  miinionlabltinthf  mi  J  He  of  tie  church.  But  howfo-» 
afidfttla-  ever  being  placed  u  ^/r^/m  the  niidft  of  the  Chjncell^ 
**•  you  cannot -thi  ke,  that  hee  doth  meaneby  middle^ 
there,  thciniddlc  bctweenc  North  and  South.  How 
fo?  Becaufe,  fay  you,  in  cafe  that  Altar  had  ftood 
alon .'  the  Ejftcrn  wall,  a  id  in  the  middle  of  the  wal ', 
l0?-  ° ^Grecian  would  no:  fay  rhat  "it ftood  &  fjj.a-^  buc 

ovcr-ancanft  the  middle  of  the 

"wall 


c<  wall :  even  as  the  Septutgfot  defcribe  the  fituation 
«  of  the  Altar  of  Ineenfe ,  to  be  i-TrnWoi  T£  ^traTrr 
ri<tta.1os  »  over-aneanft  the  vaile  of  the  Temple. 
Why  man  ?  I  trow  you  cannot  fay  of  any  thing  that 
ftindeth  clofe  unto  the  middle   of  a  wall,  and  is 
built  up  to  it  ,  as  commonly  the  Altars  were  ;  that  it 
is  buik  itfCTst/Ji'ft)  TVAwVv,  over-aneant  the  middle  of 
the  wall.  That  forme  of  fpeech  would  fit  farre  bet 
ter  with  the  Communion  Table  ^  placed  exa&ly  in  the 
wiJJtfl  of  the  Chancell.  For  then  it  would  be  placed 
aawAiltoi  TV  t**ov  over  againft    the  middle  of  the 
Eafterx  wall.  You  might  have  found  this  in  yourowne 
inftance  of  the  \*4ltarofI»ce»p£i\A  to  be  placed  i^. 
VXVT'O»  TO?  jcxTA^Ta,W]^»over  a^a'inft  the  vjile  of 
the  Temple,  (landing  a  prery  diftancefrom  ic,and«0/ 
vdofctothe  vtile^yw  untcarntdly  relate.  But  this 
debate  about  the  placing  of  the  Altar  of  Incenfi  will 
fall  more  properly  within  the  compafTe  of  your  reply 
onto  the  Dolors  fccond  Anfwer  ^  to  which  now  we 
halten.  Onely  I  tell  you  by  the  way,  that  if  the  ?<me- 
gyrif  could  not  fet  the  Table  clofe  along  the  wall,  in 
the  middle  between  North  and  South,  without  a  pjiit~  (q)p.»o8.ioy; 
ted  Sea-card  of  tht  winds ,  and  thefonrc  points  in  let- 
ittt  ^  as  you  are  pleafed  to  laugh  it  out :  he  muft  make 
ufe  no  doubt  of  the  fame  invrnti in,  to  place  it  in  the 
vt*y  mUjl  of  the  Ghancell.  .Where,  you  fay,  he  placed 
it.  Your  other  flimme,  is  more  impertinent ,and  ab- 
furd.  For  though  alt  fubftantiall  bodies  here  v»  tjrtt) 
are  equally  m-afntabk  by  thofe  fourt points  in  l.e.rccn^ 
35  you  truly  fay:  yecyouri'lation  thereupon,  that  it, 
if  not  conceivable  horcthn  AltarfionUftand  in  the  mid- 
dk  betvc^ene  North  and  South,  rather  than  in  the  mid  lie 
bctwt.at  Ejfl  and  ft'tjl^is  fo  ridiculous  5  that  no  man 

buc 


Se<£t  It  but  your  fclfc  would  have  ventured  at  It.  For  \vfcenj 
wee  talkc  of  fetting  up  a  Table  in  the  mldf  of  a  roomc 
betwcene  E*/?ani  Wif:  I  TOW  you  doe  notthink,but 
in  thac  roomc3  it  may  ftand  rather  in  the  middle  be 
tween  Ejfl  and  Wep^  thin  in  the  middle  of  the  fame 
between  North  and  South:  though  it  (lands  equally 
diftant  from  all  fourc  poinrs;  in  the  heavenly  bodies. 
Then  to  the  Doctors  fecond  anfwer,you  reply  and 

<r<  P- 1°>-  fav,  that  like '  unto  A  chiU  iff  a  find}  bancl^  he  puts 
down  with  one  hand,  what  hcc  had  built  up  with  the 
other.  Why  fo  ?  Bcraufc  in  cafe  you  did  not  like  his 
former  anfwcr ,  you  might  fee  fo  me  thing  elfe  for 
your  fa'-isfa^ion.  Call  you  this  y\i\\m%doTVffe  nit  hone 
ujxj,  what  hee  had  built  up  with  the  other  ?  1  fee  the 
Doftor  cannot  plcafeyoujfay  he  what  he  will, But  be 
ing  faid,  what  anfverdoc  you  make  unto  it  ?  Mjrry 

:f;j>.io?.no,  you  tcjj  ^SQUC  fof^^ww/V/,  that  though  7)^  was  in 
tc  Syria,  yet  were  the  people  rhereof  never  mingled 
cc  with  the  /^nr/,  nor  the  laves  with  them,  until!  their 
<c  irnbncing  of  the  ChriiVianfaith^afccrthe  utter  ruin 
<c  and  fubverfion  of  thac  Nation.  Why  man? And  doth 
the  Do£or  tell  yoiijthat  the  Hiid  Church  or  Temple  in 
J'.iiffbiuf  jwas  built  before  the  ruiftofthitl  ^f<///o-7,or  be 
fore  any  of  the  Icrvcs  had  received  the  faith?  You  could 
not  bee  fo  ignorant  as  not  to  know  by  courfe  of  ftory, 
thac  the  fud  Church  was  built  above  200.  yeeres  after 
the  mine  and  fubvcrfion  of  the  lerrijtj  Nation  :  and 
thcrfore  it  would bcft  bcconi  you,ekher  tofpcok  more 
to  the  purpofc ,  or  to  hold  your  peace.  Yes  that 
you  will  you  fry.  And  rather  than  the  Altar  in  £///?- 
bitu  (hall  fhnd  in  the  widdlt  of  the  C/ww^jto  car 
ry  fame  rcfemblance  to  the  Altjroflnctnfa  yon  will 
remove  the  Alttr  of  Inctvft  from  the  midfl  of  the 

Temple 


Temple,  where  it  flood  etTWarn'of  TV  x.&ri'&tra.ffuyfloSy  Cap.  7. 

over  againft  the  vailc ,  as  bef«.  re  you  fatd  ^  and  place 

it  clofeunto  the  vailc,  where  never  any  man  did  place 

it,  but  your  fclfe alone-  For  tell  mee,  'doe  Tofiatus  (\iandfaA\- 

and  Werafaflertthu  ^/A*/-/0f/*«w/*,  asyoupleafe  **™<l**f 

J-,J      /•  „  •          .11        n        r-          t»tncvaiC)at 

to  tell  us.  Not  ftjiefcit  to  the  vatic,  that  s  Hat: r  for  it  Tottams  and. 
was  u  made  with  rings  andftavcs,  to  be  removed  (as 
you  are  plcafed  to  have  the  coMmunfanTablesfavz- 
cafionwfts.  Then  for  your  placing  of  it  clofe  along 
the  vaile,  you  finde  no  warrant  in  the  Scripture.  The 
Mine  reads  it ,  Contra  wlum\  our  EneJLifi  bookcr,  be 
fore  the  vatic  5  clofe  unto  it ,  you  that  better  under* 
ftand  the  text?  than  all  traftjlaton  whacfoever.  Then 
for  x  Tofljtu*  whom  you  cice  for  faflttiffg it  nnlotl.c  (^ 
railC)  all  hcc  faith  is  this  :  Dicitur  AltartiftitdtJJc  rott- 
tra  vel/wty  i.  c.  ante  return.  That  A/far  isherefaid  to 
bee  againft  the  vailc:  th.it  is3beforeit.Whac  clfc?  Hie 
poult  ttr  fit  us  hnjtis  altaris^cHkit  tHqiijpjrte  Sanctuj- 
ri/ptwtrctttr.  Here  is  dcfcribed  the  fitiution  of  this 
Altar  5  namely  ia  what  pare  of  the  Sanftiuu-y  ic  \vas 
j^aced.  Is  this  to  fee  ic  dole  unco  the  ew/^and  there 
to  fatten  ic  ?  wee  may  conjecture  how  you  ufc  R:!>er.t 
byyourfairc  dealing  with  70/?<////f9  whom  you  thus 
abufe.Befides,your  fclfe  hath  told  us.,  that  the  A  t  if  of 
Incenf:  did  x  (land  between  the  Table  on  the  N0i-t!.(you  (yl 
mean  the7*^/tf<?/^rr^rw7,doyounoti')and  the  '.>*//« 
dleflickn$Q»  the  South:  and  I  pro  fume  you  v/il  1  not  fj  y, 
the  Table  of  the  shtrvbrcal ,  and  the  CtvMediil^  di/l 
ftand  clofe  unto  the«w/f  ?  or  Wcrcfaftncdtoit.  Iii;c 
forthefe  things,  the  Mtarpwl  rheT<tble,  and  the  dw- 
<//f/?/V%,how  they  were  diipofed  of  in  tlie  Tjbfrtijr;!* : 
you  may  confulc  the  Schemes  thereof  ii  'loni'idlm, 
2(j44.\vhere  you  will  finde  the  A//^ ibo J  noc 


Sea. 


2. 


('•]it  ii  Hit  true 
t'tttl;eG.iteor 
entrance  ifthii 


be  own  to  the 
£a2.  p.iio 


Ca)F.ufcb.Lro.  fterne  cnc| 

f      .4  ? 


clop  unto  the  vatic ,  but  a  good  diftancc  off,  towards 
the  nether  end, though  not  exactly  in  the  midft.  You 
might  as  well  have  let  the  Alfar  in  E*fcbi#t  ftand 
clofc  along  the  wall,  in  the  middle  bctweenc  North 
and  South)  as  the  Doctor  placed  it  5  as  have  bctraied 
your  ignorance  3  both  in  the  Criticijme  and  the  /*tf, 
to  fo  little  purpofe;  yea  and  yourhoneftic  to  boot. 
And  here  I  would  have  left  you  and  Eufcoiwjbw  that 
you  will  not  let  the  Doctor  goe  away  with  any  thing. 
For  whereas  the  poore  Do&orfaid,  that  the  Gate  or 
entrance  of  this  Church,  like  that  of  SalornonjTctxpICy 
was  unto  the  Ejft  .  you  fay  *  it  is  cot  fruc,  and  that 
there  is  not  any  fuch  thing  in  Ettfiblus.  You  grant  that 
the  cr/«sruAciny  or  ihciPwflwwas  towards  the  Eaft 5 
the  leading  way  or  entrance  into  the  Court,  or 
Church-yatd,as  we  call  ic  now :  And  thinke  you  they 
went  round  about  the  Church,  to  findc  another  way 
at  the  further  end?  Befidcs,  you  might  have  fpund, 
if  you  would  have  fought,  that  there  were  three  dores 
into  the  very  ChurcrTit  felfe ,  all  of  them  in  the  Ea« 


c.4. 


&A«Js  ?  as  a  the  Author 


hath  it.  Finally,  whereas  you  had  faid  before,  that 
there  b  was  nothing  true  in  all  this  relation ?but  that  the 
word  Mtar  is  named  in  EuJebtM  $  now  you  have  ta 
ken  from  him  that  comfort  alfo  :  that  filtar  being  by 
and  by  (you  fay}  interprctcd.to  bz  a  Metaphor/call  Affar9 
even  TO  \tfux.tnntilhcfiHiftificath»ofaChrifli4»fottle. 
You  might  as  well  have  faid,  theTcmpk  there  defcri- 
bcHisa  Metaphorical  Tewplc  :  becnufc  the  Vanttyrift 
dcfcanting  upon  ir?  compares  the  Sonic  unto  that  Tern* 
]>fc ,  as  \\\cjincfritie  thereof  to  the  holy  A//<*r. 

\\'cc  have  been  long  about  Enfebiuj.fcut  will  be  brie 
fer  in  the  reft  5  as  briefe  as  poflibly  wee  candour  old 

tricks 


_   f 


(»37) 

tricks  cornered.  The  next  that  followes  is  the  fife  Cap.  8 

Counoell 'ofCoffft*»t//Mp!e,  as  h  is  called  in  Bifh.  Tenr', 

l-cingtlnt////>  A^ptto&  Menu*)  as  the  Dcftor  had  ir. 

Mere  you*  conceive  you  have  him  a:  .2  fine  advantage  5 

Afrtpttff*  beincr  ffej 4  before  that  Councell  fate  5  and  Wr*"'? 

MeattaPatriarfhflfCoKJijKtinrfk  prcfidin*  in  it.  But 

Sir, you  can  not  chufc  but  know,  that  howfocvcr  A^t- 

IN*/// died  be  fore  the  fitting  of  the  Councell:  yet  it 

\vas  called  cfperially  by  i;is  procuring ^  (being  then 

ac  Coffjlaitffffopk)  although  hce  lived  not.  to  fee 

the  efforts  tl.crof  j  his  Legates alfo  bein^  thereby  vcr- 

tue  ofa  CommiiTinnro  them  made, when  he  was  alive. 

And  this  was  poflibly  the  reafon,  why  £//;/'///  in  the 

top  of  every  page  throughout  the  A7/  of  this  whole 

CoituccU) being  1 1  a.  in  all,  fees  it  St/£  Agtycto  &  Mcu- 

«</3is  the  Dodor  did :  your  next  exception, if  it  be  not 

better,  will  bee  worfethanncthing.  The  place  allei- 

ged  by  Bi(hop-7<rnrf//.is  this,that  Tcm\>orc  djpticho>nmt 

at  the  Rcti.dirg  of  the  Djtf/ch,  the  pfoplc  nit!)  great 

filcace  drew  together  round  about  the  Altar^  atjd  g. 


c'fica  Circle ^ yet xu^Ao)  Tbf^»5tT>ii^'.collld  net  be 
"properly interpreted  rou/tJa&o/tt'tbs  d/tary  fothat 
"  there  was  no  part  thereof,  which  was  not  compaf- 
"  fed  with  the  people.  Tins  he  illuftrated  with,  a  like 
phrafein  our  Eu?Jijh  Idionij  of  the  kini;3  fittin-'_'i:i  his 
throne, and  all  his  noble  men  about  him  :  and  by  the 
very  faying  in  the  Gretkc  text  of  the  7im7<;//Vv,  >.  J. 
x>>u  r\J  ^M'<*  ^ound  about  the  throne.  A;/..:,  fb  ti'iij 
you  have  (.'id  luit  lirtle ,  thouc'h  you  fpend  many 
v/ords  alcutit.  All  your  great  Crunuror  icarnir.a  out 

'   of 


2.    of  EuflathittSi  and  Hej}chwf>  TuUy^  and  Euatiffy  excel 
lent  critic!^  all  5  that  circles  are  exactly  round,«  with* 
••t  out  any  Corners,  and  that  a  f  Circle  differs  from  a 
xcrar!t:r.itsz.  few/cMe  $  is  but  your  wonted  art  to  divert  the  bud- 
rfjclrcului  am  nc^-'-  F°r  did  Y^u  not  obferve  that  the  Doftor  gran- 
rc.uicircuio-      ted  itjthat  x.vx,Ao«  of  and  in  it  felfe  didftgnijtc  a  circle  $ 
fonfcdtatUbhl  I ffo,v/hat  needs  all  this  adoe  ?  The  thing  in  queftion 
isnotwhatfcojcAo*  fignifieth,  or  whether  Circles  arc 
not  round:  but  whether  that  jyJxAw ^'lot.TWvs  can 
any  v/ay.inferrc  that  the  A//*r  Itoodinrhemidft  of 
the  Church,  fo  that  the  people,  if  they  would,  might 
rtnine  roundabout  it.   For  this  you  bring  no  proofc, 
,'}0p:ii.         but  chat  »  you  thought  the  Throne  in  hcMctt  bjd becnc 
/v/t'  enough,  and  that  it  needed  r.ot  a  IT  all  to  rcji  upon. 
Why,   \vho  faid  it  did?  That  in  the  Rnelation,  was 
only  brought  for  illuftration  of  the  Phrafe,  i^uxAuij 
not  for  the  fituation  of  the  Altar  againfta  wall.  But 
then  you  fay,the  Angels  m<i)  as  conveniently  be  thcught 
to  cowptijje  it  about j  as  to  cajl  tlxmfcfces  into  a  hdlft 
woon:  I)  e fore  th?  pro  fence  of  A/mi&ktji  Cod^  and  that 
all interpreters  doe  fo  expound  it.  You  fpeake  of  allin" 
/^p/Y/f/'j'jburyounameusnone^  which  fl-icwes  your 
ail  is  very  nothing:  for  where  you  have  a  fl  ore,  wee 
are  furc  EO  finde  it  in  the  margin,  how  little  foever  to 
tlic  purpbfe.But  Sir3the  Doctor  fpcakes  there  KOSf  «»• 
(IviC^ij.       ^-a-uTovi h  after  the  wanner  ofvieti^  touching  the  refe 
rence  which  the  Prophet  had  in  hisdefcription  of  che 
Thrcne  in  Heaven,  unto  the  thrones  of  Kings  on 
earth.  And  if  you  fpeake,  or  apprehend  him  fpeaking 
*bol"ibetbr«nc  in  that  »w/MW_  5  it  would  be  very  Itard  for  you  to  un 
tie  the  knot,  and  fliew  us1  how  fourc  kcaffs,  though 
;  never  fofttllofcj'.'s*  could  compifle  round  the  Throne 
in  a  perfect  Circle.  Nor  clotli  that  fragment  which  you 

bring 


^        *• 

bring  ns  from  S.  £*/?// Liturgical  m*r*»1<n  icuW  Cap.  8 
rai  2«pa-?ti,u,  fry  nibre  than  what  the  Do&or  told 
you  from  the  Revelation^  that  all  the   Angels  JfooJ 
round  about  the  Throne,  Apoc.j.n.  though  Gentian. 
Hervet)  as  you  fay,  hath  rcndred  it  in  orbem^  which 
you  tranflate  in  ariitgorptrfeft  Circle.  For  your  &' 
xAcdaa  k  in  £.  P*/<w  Liturgie,  you  might  doe  well  to  ^)JMII. 
kecpe  ic  by  you ,  till  the  autlioritie  of  that  and  other 
Liturgies  affabulated  to  the  holy  Apoitles,  be  agreed 
upon.  And  had  I  thought  you  would  have  taken  them 
for  currant,  I  would  have  fhewne  you  more  in  them 
for  Pricjls  and  Altars^  than  you  can  doc  with  your 
x.vx,Aci9a>  for  placing  the  fa  1 1  /liters  in  the  midft  of  the 
Church.  Howeveijby  your  ownc  confeulon^  we  have 
found  an  Altar  in  S.  Peters  Liturgie :  and  therefore  to 
difpute  adbofainemjhc  njme  of  Table  is  not  200  yecref 
more  ancient  in  the  chriftian  Church,  tbantbeitamtof 
Altar.  The  comytjting  of  the  Altar  l  in  S.  JZaftls  Litur-  ^  P«II<?> 
gie,  is  an  allufion  only  to  the  Phrafe  in  the  books  of 
Pfalff/fs  ;  and  To  is  that  alfo  in  the  epiftle  ofSj»cfiiit9  if 
fuch  thing  bee  in  him:  you  hive  referred  us  in  your 
text,  to  m  one  of  his  Epfjltes,  but  you  tell  not  which,  (m;p,iii. 
And  in  your  Margin  tell  us  that  it  is  fitfo»flituftba/rifa 
adThat  tltfUMi  but  I  finde  no  fuch  thing  in  his  F.prflL'j* 
But  fo  or  not  fo,  all  is  one  with  you^  and  with  me  too 
inrhisparticular,  being  thus  anfvrered  re  your  Innr!. 
Laft  of  all  for  your  puffages  in  S.  Chryfoflov/rj  I.i- 
turgic5wherc  it  isfaid,thc  Dtaconfumet  the  holy  Tabl^ 
jiuxAwj  roundabout^  aud  y^ocay&9\n all  the  circuit  or 
coibpajje thereof^ z$  your fcllc tranflate  it;  thac  mi^ht 
well  be,and  yet  the  Altar  frand  all  along  the  wall,  r'or 
with  a  ccnfer  in  your  hand,  you  could  make  (hi ft,  no 
doubt^tocenfcorfumcthe/W?  fable^  in  all  the  cir 
cuit 


(24°) 

Scot.  2.  euttorcoir.paflc  ofic:  andyec  not  take  thepaincsto 
£oe  round  about  ic:  even  as  tlrey  doc}  an  this  day  in 
the  Church  of  Home.  But  1  mnft  rell  you  by  the  way, 
that  you  luve  falljtled  your  Author,  or  at  lead  chop 
ped  hir'.otF,  having  more  to  fay.  For  p,6^..  whkhcr 
you  refer  re  us,  hee  (pe-ikes  of  cenfmg  of  the  siltjr 
xvV.Aiv  you  fry  we  II  in  that,  but  then  hec  addes,  >r&>- 
p-.t/i*)  after  the  manner  of  a  erode  5  which  over- 
tlicowes  your  whole  'IfH^ne.  For  take  it,as  the  Father 
incomes ic;and  ids  no  fuchimpoffiliility,  as  you  think.e 
;;i)T/).-fe.ir?i-w;  ic  b,  hucth-ica  {ingle man  "may  doc  it  5  and  fume  the 
j'lutft >aot^i.d  sUtjr.'ii}  acrofle.or  ft:!inoanw  cruets  :  and  therefore 

c.itt'iot  {'Pitt-. ,        .  t~\     c*          •    +  .•  r       tr      i 

cxwiii-l.  '.I      "lc  P001"^  Doaors  interpretation  not  lo  abytra^  you 
>caia.v{  r'c  \vould  makcic.  The  Doctor  v/ill  Itand  clofe  enough  to 
'"•ft'/'d  his'llltcrprcr*itionjtill  you  bring  ftrongcr  Arguments, 
lw.    ar'J  moi:t"  fa'ire  dealing  to  remove  him  from  it.  You 
f!ie\v  your  felfon  all3and  on  nooccafions  to  havcfome 
fniatteving  of  the  Jaw,  and  therefore  cannot  chufe  buc 
know,  that  in  dcfecl  of  an  sppcnrance,  a  lime  in  foine 
cafes  may  be  up^v  cirvitMflantibif* :  for  which  fee,  55, 
//.g.f.d.  z>Ethr.6s,$2.  and  >.  F.t/z.c.z').  and  14.  E//35. 
^,9.  And  yet  I  truftyou  will  not  fay,  the  Judges  that 
determine  in  writ  of  Wiji  print)  fit  in  the  middle  of 
tlietcwne  Hall  wherefocvcr  they  come;  becaufc  the 
people  are  conceived  to  bee  cirfnmfttnles.  None  but 
this  Mwijli'r  of  Li>tcoh;£<in  would  commit  thefcfol- 
Jies.  And  yet  ic  is  no  wonder  neither:  for  you  have 
uivenus  centum  tjlesjn  lteadof//r^;//. 

Having.  Madcfrcrtt  (to  keepe  us  to  your  owr.c  fwcet 
Jjnpuagc)'*  the  Greeke  with  the  (  ounctll  ofConpanti' 
.*.         xopk:  weersmft  next  fee  "  you  doe  at  vmch  ja La* 
//AV,  wirh  S.  i\i/?ufl{t!c.  The  place  from  him  allenged 
}>>•  ftiOiop  Jewell)  is  this  ^  -CkrijTrfs  'jwfiJic  psfcit  :• 


(MO 

ipjwt  eft  ilia  in  mcdio  conflitttta*  Quid  ctufe.  Cap.  2, 
eft,  0  andreJtttS)  uttmnfawvldcAtis^  &  tifltptilix  nan 
Accedath  $  i.  e.  as  he  cranflatcs  KjChriJl 'fades  us  daily : 
and  this  if  his  table  here  fet  in  the  midjl.  0  my  hearer s^ 
what  ff  tht  matter ^that  ye  fie  theTabk^  andjetcome  not 
to  the  meat?  u To  this  the  Do&or  Panfv/ered,  that  (p)Co»i.p.yr; 
<c  menfo  ilia  in  medio  conjlittita,  is  not  to  be  interpre- 
"  ted  the  Table  fit  here  in  the  widihjl  ^  but  the  Table 
"which  is  here  before  you  :  and  this  according  to  the 
ec  £*//#*  phrafe  tffcrre  fa  medium ^  which  is  not  to  be 
^  conftrucdtobriug  a  thinp  prccifjly  into  the  middle, 
ec  but  to  brin^  it  to  u?,  or  before  us.  In  your  reply  to 
this,  you  trifle  as  before  you  did,  «  AJ}-A.\®.  And  be* 
caufe  every  Sclook!>«y  li  knowes,  that  literally  and  ('q)!'.*'/- 
gnmMatica/fy)  wtdinm  cioth  fignitic  the  middle  p.wt  or 
fyacc^  therefore  ajferrc  in  medium  cannot  flsjnitic  to 
bring  a  thing  unto  us,  or  before  us.  This  fa  id,  you 
make  another  Tally,  to  Chew  your  Critical!  learning 
(you  have  fuchftore  of  it)  touching  the  derivation  of 
the  Greek  word  juioos  out  o^Sr^/^cr,  and  the  Latinc 
word  Mc/tfa  out  offarro ,  which  wjs  at  firft,  fay  you, 
called  Meft,  from  the  Greek  word  M  eVa,  becaufc  this 
J?e«/7/,  faith  Varro  ,  "is  ever  placed  in  the  middle 
cc  fpace  between  us:  fo  chat-according  to  this  great  and 
ee  ancient  Critick,  it  cannot  properly  be  cal  led  a  Talk , 
C;  unleffe  it  be  placed  5  as  Saint  AuftiH  reports  it  3  in 
"tntdio,  in  the  middle.  Would  you  would  leave  this 
CriticoU learning ,  except  you  were  more  perfect  in  it. 
All  that  you  finde  in  Varro  is r  no  more  than  this ,  that  /xMel;ngu.lat. 
wenpt  efcarit)  aboord  for  meat,  is  called  CibiOa.  and 
that  it  was  once  fquare ,  but  afterwards  made  round  : 
EtqutJanobrtiMdia  3  a  Greets  ^a^  wcafi  did  pot  eft. 
Findc  you  in  diis  that  the  Latinc  word  tor  a  Ttlk  was 

S  not 


not  alwayes  Mettfa  $  but  at  the  firft  Me  ft  ?  So  you 
would  make  your  Readers  think  9  that  cannot  every 
day  confuk  the  Author^  and  for  that  purpofe  you  have 
falfifkd  him  in  your  margin  accordingly  $  and  made 
in      kirn  fay  f  what  is  not  in  him,  viz..  Mefa.qttoda  nobif  me* 
malgiiJ'1'       ttiat  dCr^cts  ^azjMtnfedictpfltcft.  But  the  firftAfr/* 
is  your  owne,  no  fuch  thing  in  Varro  :  an  j  confequent* 
ly  Mefa  was  not  the  full  Latins  word  for  Table  as  you 
have  folfified  the  Aut  hour  9  onely  to  place  it  in  the 
middle.  Neither  doth  Varro  fay  3  that  Mwfa  was  deri 
ved  from  the  Greek  word  M  to*,  more  than  from  the 
Latine  Media:  and  further  addes  another  reafon  of  the 
name,which  you  would  not  fee  5  and  that  is,  qttodponc* 
bant  yhraqnt  ;//  cilo  we  a  fa ,  becaufe  that  on  the  Table 
the  meat  was  fcrved  out  by  meafure.  Every  man  had 
his  owne  iliffjefffo/ffjK  the  word  (till  holds.-  So  then,  ic 
maybe  called  a TW>/i'5although  notpLtccdmthctxiMc.  • 
Your  Grammar  learningbeiug  ftiowne,  wee  matt  next 
take  a  turne  in  your  Divine  and  Theologhatt  Philology : 
\vhere  we  are  told  c  otaitdientet ,  geHttflcSetttet^  com- 
tctenteS)  and  /V;////o7/D  feverall  kinds  of  Cattelwmeni^ 
in  the  primitive  times  5  as  if  thofe  names  had  never 
beene  heard  of,  butamongft  the  fennes :  you  would  be 
thought  to  lie  at  rack  and  manger  with  Lady  fhilo- 
fogj,  though  you  never  kifther.  For  had  you  bat  the 
leaft  acquaintance  with  her,  you  would  nocrunne  into 
thofe  errours  which  you  do  continually.    You  tell  us 
ofthefc</«V/V//.V/,  that  "if  the  Tabknere in  the  Chan- 
cell:  they  coulAnot  be  admitted  to  draw  fo  mere  as  to  fee 
and  view  it  :  and  therefore  make  Saint  /utftto  fay> 
that's  the  Lords  Table  there, which  you  fig  placed  in  the 
midft  of  the  cAwrJ&.Why)  could  they  not  more  eafily 
fee  it  ia  the  mldf  of  the  Church,  than  if  ic  had  beeoe  in 

the 


the  tirtttceU?  W  ere  th ey  fo  Eagle-fighted  a  far  off.and  Cap .  2, 
could  they  not  difccme  it>if  placed  ncerer  hand  ?  This 
is  a  myftcry  indeed,  above  my  capacity.  Perhaps  you 
think,  that  commonly,  and  at  other  time?  3  it  ftood  in 
the  middle  ofthe  Church :  but  when  the  Cattchumcni 
were  driven  forth  9  and  the  holy  Sacrament  to  be  ad- 
rniaifired  3  it  was  removed  into  the  CkanceU.  And 
then  confider  with  your  felfc ,  how  fitly  you  would 
have  thcfabte  to  be  fet  at  other  times  in  the  upper 
end  ofthe  Chancell;  and  be  brought  downe  in  time  of 
the  Communion  into  the  body  of  the  Church.  Next  you 
have  made  S.  Anftin  fay  ,,  that  if  thefe  an  die  nt  ex  coulcf 
but  by  chance  get  aglympfe  ofthe  holy  Table 3  they  rrcn  hi- 
ftj  ntly  (all  discipline  aotwithjlattding)  to  h  b.iptinAi 
and  yet  Saint  Auftin  faith  expreffely ,  ;//  me n^tm  vide* 
atis ,  that  they  did  fee  the  Ti^/^though  they  came  not 
to  it;  nor  doe  we  fiude  they  were  baptized  fo  prefenc- 
ly  on  the  fight  thereof.  Therefore  to  fee  the  nntrer 
right  .,  I  rather  fhould  conceive  that  the  word  til* 
there ,  is  of  fpecall  efficacie :  and  points  not  to  a  Ta 
ble,  which  was  then  before  them,  (for  then  bsc  wmfa 
eft  //>/Ay/3might  have  beene  more  proper : )  but  tofome 
Table  further  off,  in  t\\c<%nirc  or  Clanccll^  nude  ready 
for  all  thofe  that  purpolcd  to  Communicate  \  which 
the  faid  Catechumeoi  might  fee ,  though  they  came 
not  neere  it.  And  fo  S^int  Auflia  in  thcfe  words, 
Mevfa  ipfiits  eft  ilia  in  media  conftituta ,  u  muft  be  thus 
"interpreted^  Hfc'fjMe  is  that  yonder  which  is  now  ' 
cc  in  readinefTe.  What  is  the  matter,  O  you  Ait  client  es^ 
<{  that  you  can  looke  upon  the  Table -5  and  yet  net  fie 
c;and  prepare  your  felvesto  be  partakers  of  the  ban- 
quet.  As  for  your  note  from  *  Albafyinw ,  that  if  the 
Audicntes  (hould  but  get  tjigkt  of  fix  holy  Table  %  thy 

S  i 


(y)  Coal. 


(M4) 

to  be  baptized:  you  doe  moil  fliamc- 
fully  abufc  rhat  learned  Bifhop^  who  was  too  great 
a  fchollcr  to  be  fo  miftakea.  And  therefore  take  along 
thutpafTageforaclofeofall,  to  which  you  point  us  ia 
your  margin  :  where  you  (hall  fmdc  hee  fpeakes  noc 
of  their  getting  a  glympfc  of  the  holy  Trf/W^but  of  the 
holj  my  fie  ties  celebrated  on  the  Table. 
fit  CatecumenOj  c.ifu  ali/jtto^  4*t  fsctffieik 
aut  occults  farailltfatttcri) 

prothuts  facro  fovie  allncmlnm  ejfe  ,  Such  a  notorious 
falfificr  of  all  kinde  of  Authors,  did  man  never  meet 
with. 

Next  for  Dnrandus  ,  it  was  obferved  out  of  him  by 
Bilhop  lentil  ,  that  the  Pricft  turning  about  at  the  /f/- 
tar^Qi\\  ufe  to  fay,  A^criti  os  imnm  m  media  Ecclefa  :• 
which  proves  not,a5  the  Do^or  Qid,  y  that  the  \*j&ttar 
.  ftood  in  the  mid  ft  of  the  Church  \  but  that  the  Tricjl 
ftoodat  the  midft  of  the  ////.//•.  You  know  this  well 
enough,  that  the  Prieft  doth  ftandfo;  but  you  muft 
nc%cdsfay  fomewhat,whatfoevcr  you  know  :  and  thcr« 
fore  bring  Dur  audits  '•  to  expound  himfclfe.Well  then, 
what  faith  Ditravdtts  to  it.  "  Per  Alt  art  Cor  ttoftrntn 
Cl  intelllgitur  3  quod  eft  m  mcdio  Corportt^fettt  Altart 
"  in  mcdio  Eff/efat,  By  the  Altar  is  to  bee  underftood 
"our  heart,  which  is  in  the  mklftof  the  body,  as  the 
<c  Altar  is  in  the  midft  ofthc  Church.This  is  almoft  the 
only  pUcc  you  have  cited  fairly  in  all  yourbook.-aud  in. 
congratulation  to  your  fclfe  for  your  honeft  dealing, 
you  prefently  flic  out  on  the  poore  Do&or,  as  if  there 
were  nofeujil>lefacriji<;tt  r  or  mat  er'tallAlt  ar  :  becaufe 
DHfaitdftfin  his  way  of  AllMories^o  pares  the  Alttrto 
our  hc,irt.  Juft  thus  before  you  dealt  with  t\\c-PMe£jrfjj 
$  and  too  lidkuloudy  in  botU  Thaefcrc 

to 


to  let  your  Atie&orics  pafle ,  as  not  confidcrablc  In  this   Cap.  &. 

cafe,  wee  muft  reply  unro  the  words.  And  here  I  will 

make  bold  to  tell  you,  that  by  in  niedio  RcckjU  here, 

Dxrandus  doth  not  meane  the  middle  of  the  Church, 

that  is>,the  body  of  the  Church  :  but  which  I  know  you 

meane  to  laugh  at,  the  middle  of  the  upper  end  of  the 

Quire  or  Chanrell^  there  where  the  Altar  ftood  in 

thofc  times  hce  lived,  and  long  before  him.  Will  you 

thereafon  why  I  fay  it  ?  then  looke  into  the  former 

Chapter ,  where  hce  will  tell  you  ofthofe  n/jks ,  or 

harresj  which  par:  tl\cAtt</r  (or  the  Altar pUce^  from 

the  reft  of  the  Satire  :  as  it  is  now  in  our  Cathedrals, 

and  many  orhers  of  this  kingdome.  CanceUi  qit/bus  Al- 

tare  a  Choro  diz'iMtnr}  fepuratiotietrtfignifcat  celeflwm 

a  terrenis.  Ai.d  fo  the  Altar  ftood  not  in  Duran.hts 

time,  in  the  midft  of  the  Church,  but  generally  at  the  • 

end  of  the  C^ncell'^  and  thus  much  briefly  for  D»* 

randits. 

For  thofc  exceptions  which  you  make  againft  the 
tcftimony  produced  by  the  Doctor a  homSocrates  and  (aXo-il.p.r*. 
Wicephorus  .,  about  the  (landing  of  the  Altars  in  An1i- 
ochitf-^  wecmuft  needs  run  ne  them  over  for  your  fatif- 
faction,  though  not  worth  the  while.  What  they  af- 
firme  herein^  we  have  at  full  layd  down  in  our  former 
Chapter:  Cafs*°J0>'e  being  there  brought  in  ,  into  the 
bargaine.  The  firft  thing  you  except  againft,  is,  that 
the  place  he  cited  from  Niccphorns  b  is  not  to  be  found  (b;  «s. 
lib.  12.  c.  24.  but  lib.  12- c.  34.  This  is  another  of  thcfc 
Malicious  falsifications  that  you  charge  him  with,  p. 5  8. 
and c  you  bcjhrero  him  for  it ,  here  p.  228.  A  very  eafic  .»  nj  t  ^tf 
crrour  if  you  mark  it  well  $  and  fuchas  Printers  will  jimv  him  for 
commit,  do  we  what  we  can.  But  it  was  fw//A/>it  fccma  tbU  tnt^f.^t 
atlaft-,  that 'swell:  more- than  nun  can  fay,  of  you  am! 

S  7  \  our 


Sedl.  2.    your  quotations,!  am  fare  of  chat:  And  fo  the  wretched 
(d; ib;ii.         Do&or  ha:h dealt  with  Socrates alfo,*1  r/'/tyg himright9 
you  fay,  in  Lati/ic^caf.  21.  whereas  it  is  the  22.  Chapt, 
in  the  Grtete.  It  would  be  well  if  you  would  cite  your 
Authois  ri.jht  in  any  Language^  orcl-fc  findc  greater 
natters  to  except  3}»;unft ,  before  you  quarrcll:  yes 
that. you  will,  you  fay.  For  thefe  Hiftoriant docxot 
Cc  note  thofc  rites  of  the  Altars  or  the  Citie  ofdmtiofh9 
cc  as  different  from  all  other  "liars,  or  from  the  Hcne- 
<e  rail  practice  of  the  Church:  bus  that  they  differed 
e-  in  thofc  rites  from  the  Church  of  Howe,  oucly,as  Io« 
c' fephus  yicc-cowef  proves  at  large.  Whatever  Vice* 
come  /proves  in  other  places ,  I  am  Cure  hce  proves  it 
not  in  the  place  you  cite  3  being  tie  Mfffie  liitib.  l.z.c.  5. 
in  which  there  is  not  one  poore.  word  that  reflects 
that  way.  Nor  will  I  take  the  paines  to  fcarch ,  if  hce 
faith  it  clfcwhcrc.  Forwlutfocvcrhcnrtthinthat,hc 
cm  never  prove  it :  the  Authors  bein^  fo  cxprefTein 
the  affirmation.  A/JiVp^v  e v«  T>IV  ^tai'h  as  it  is  in 
Socrates  3  contrariHtaab  aliisEcckJiiifttuM,  the  tranf- 
latour  reades  it  3  ettverfumprorpfs  quam  alibi ftum^  fo 
Nifephorw  hath  ir.  The  words  are  generall  enough, 
without  relation  any  way  to  the  Church  of  .Row f. 
(cjp.xij ,        Now  where  yon  fay,  e  that  neither  Socrates  nor  N/'* 
ccpkorvt ,  doc  fay  that  the  Altars <\\{\&Ani\H'rJltr*rJi 
that  Socrates  doth  not  fpcake  of  t  lie  pofithn  of  tbefc 
Mtars*  but  the  churches  oncly^  and  that  Nicep/.WMf 
adJif>g  btpiks  his  Author ^  the  pflftt/rc  of  the  Altars,  doth 
prrfently  com&  himftlfe  in  the  words  of  Socrates :  all 
thefe  are  worfe  than  fo  many  miftakings,  as  you  have 
made  them  in  the  Doctor,  they  are  wilfull  falfehoods. 
For  doth  not  Socrates  affirme,  v  y^p  K^S  ctfctloAxj  rl 
y5  etMx  vept  A'wJ  and  doth  tt/V^/wv/*  fay 

other- 


otberwifc,  than  Sacra  ara nonadorknttm^fcclddQc */-  Cap.  8. 
denttrn  verfa)  coflocatafiterat  ?  what  finde  you  in  AV- 
ccphoriu  like  a  recantation ,  paflng  dircftly  from  thcie 
words  to  another  matter  ?  For  fhamc  prcfumc  not 
thusonthecrcdulitieofyour  Readers:  and  think  noc 
all  the  world  fo  ftupid ,  as  to  bee  cheated  with  your 
fairc  words,  and  a  loaded  margin.  The  reft  of  your 
exceptions  are  foflis^ht,  they  need  no  reply.  The 
Doctor  faith  not  as  you f  charge  him,  that  afftbtpedpfe  tf)P-"* 
///  Syria,  wight  possibly  place  the  Attar  in  the  midft  ofths 
Church:  but  (pake  it  onely  of  the  people  of  the  ciric 
of  Tyre.  And  for  the  pudder  that  you  make  about  the 
mean  ing  of  the  word  ^sTy,  which  is  another  (mack  of 
your  critical!  ignorance :  bee  pleafed  to  know,  that 
without  any  wreftingofthe  word ,  the  ///Aw  may  be 
faid  cpov  fo  io°k  towards  the  E./^  as  well  as  that  fVvV/?/ 
looked  that  way,  which  did  officiate  at  them,  orupou 
them.  And  if  you  will  vouchfafeto  lookcin  *C/efae//t  (s)Strom.l,r: 
of  Alexandria )  you  will  there  finde  that  the  word 
/3AeVetvis  lo  ufed.  ri  &a.\^yraiflct.  T*I  upiv  -&?)$  /u" 
en  t^AeTTtv.  So  hee  in  reference  to  fome  antienc  tem 
ples  built  amongft  the  Gentiles. 

Thus  having faved  the  Do&or  harmlefle  from  your 
vaine  afljults^  wee  will  next  fee,  what  you  have  ftudi. 
ed  of  your  ownc,  ag.inlt  the  It  indin^  of  the ////•<//•,  ac  ' 
the/:.///  end  of  the  Church.  Where  I  muft  tell  you, 
your  particular  inftances  will  prove  but  wcrake  and  fil 
ly  Arguments  ,  like  the  CatbcdraUclu rch  at  DoTcr^  or 
tie  round  Church  of  Cambridge  ^  which  wee  met  with 
Jately.  That  which  you  tell  us  fiom  the  Greek  Chur 
ches,  is  indeed  confiderable,if  it  were  as  true.  You  tell 
us  out  of  Gentian  Hervetus^  that  in  t'uc  ijjjta, or  c^"  (h;  p.u;. 
fell  there  be  two  Altars^  whereof  the  greater  jhu. is  in 

S  4  tic 


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Se<fl.  2.     I?3*  w^fl  of  that  Roome ,  and  thelejp  clofcly,  at  the 
left  fide  of  it.  Yet  Bifhop  Itrfcll  in  his  13.  XrA  being  of 
the  Vlnralitie  ofMaJJes  5  cites  many  of  the  Ancient 
Fathers  that  fay ,    there  is  but  one  Altar  in  every 
Church  :  and  then  concludes  with  Gentian  Hervet  $ 
InGrfcontm  tvwp/ts  unnm  t  ant  H  weft  Altar  c^  idqucin. 
mcdhchoroaut  Vreslytcrio.  Not  in  the  middle  of  the 
Chnr  /Jthcn,  wee  have  gained  fo  much  :  and  wee  have 
rcafon  to  belceve  it  was  not  in  the  middle  of  the  Chan- 
cell  nt\  her.  One  of  you  I  am  fure  is  out  with  your 
Gcfithn  Hcrv*:t,  touching  the  number  of  your  Altars : 
and  think  you  ,  that  you  are  not  both  out  in  the  pla 
cing  of  them?  No  certainly  fay  you,  that  cannot  be, 
p.  i^-          '  bccaufe  thefci  ter  forth  of  the  G  reefy  and  Latine  Litur* 
gics^  hath  affirmed  as  much  :  wz.  that  there  be  in  thofe 
Churches  two  /liters ,  the  greater  iff  the  middefl^  and 
calle.i  the  holy  Table,  the  lefier  called  the  Trothcjis>  or  Ta- 
bl.'ofVropojitifln.    And  then  you  bring  in  Claudius 
Sji»tfcs,tote\l  us,thac  in  the GmltTwiplesjhere  is  but 
one  hh\h  Altar,  and  that  placed  in  themidffofthe  ^nii'e» 
You  fliould  doc  well  to  reconcile  your  witnefles,  be 
fore  you  bring  them  to  give  evidence.  £7<fW/>.r  Sain* 
Ctcs.  as  you  circ  him,  hath  told  us  of  one  Altar  oncly ; 
t!ic/tV/f/'p//Aof  tlie  Crccle  and  Latine  Liturgies ,  as 
you  plcafc  to  call  hima  tcls  us  of  two;  but  placcth,  as 
you  cite  him,  the  great  eft  oncly  in  the  midft :  and  Gen~ 
tun  Hervet  fetting  the  great  Altar  in  the  midft ,  hath 
placed  the  le;jft  clofe  by  it,  at  the  left  fide  of  the  grea 
ter.  Your  felfe  and  Bifliop  It recll  v.ith  your  Gentian 
Hervet,  and  Genthn  Hervet  with  your  fetter  forth^  and 
his  I  lattdiifs  ^ahtflcs^  agree  but  very  ill  together. Wee 
might  doe  well  tokeepc  them  without  fire  and  can 
dle  3  till  they  agreed  upon  their  verdi& :  but  wee  will 

take 


(MP) 

take  an  eaficr  Courfe ,  and  difmifle  them  prefently.  Cap.  8. 

Andfirft  beginning  wichyour  cluuJ/us  Sji»ffes9  you 

cite  him  k  in  his  Edition  of  the  Greeks  Litnrgie  at  Varis^  (k;  P.ii4. 

1560.  but  you  cite  neither  page,  nor  place  where  a 

man  may  findeit.  Indeed  ic  was  moft  wifely  done  to 

conceale  the  matter^that  fo  your  Reader  might  be 

cirawne  rather  to  take  it  on  your  word,  than  take  the 

paincs  to  lookc  for  it  upon  fuch  uncertainties.  But 

howfocver  bein£  looked  for ,  and  looked  for  with  a 

diligent  and  carefull  eye  5  wee  muft  return cno»eftia- 

vtntus  ,  no  fuch  words  in  s.ri»ftct.  Next  for  the _/?•/- 

ter forth  of  the  Greel^  and  Latinc  Liturgies >  you  might 

have  done  us  a  good  turne  to  have  told  his  name :  at 

Icaft  not  to  have  fent  us  to  enquire  for  him  in  'the 

Jliblioth.vst.  TatrttM^  Tom.  2.  In  Annot.  without  more 

punftuall  direction.  You  mean,  I  trow  ,>thc  fetter  forth 

of  the  Liturgies  in  GreckgandLttint^  and  them  wee 

finde  indeed  in  the  fecond  Tome  of  that  edition.  But 

when  you  talke  I  know  not  how,  of  a  fitter  firth  r-f 

the  Grecl^e.  antlLttinc  Liturgies ,  an  1  fend  us  to  the 

Hiblhth.vett'Patrumj'tew**.  you  bid  uslooke  into  .1 

place  where  no  fuch  man  was  ever  heard  of:  the  Greek 

and  Latint  Liturgies  not  being  found  in  the  fccondof 

thofc  Tomes,  but  in  the  fixt.    I  fee  you  were  rcfnlvccl 

tha:  whofocver  traced  you  ,    fliould  have  mujhto 

doe.  But  having;  found  yoar  Author  our,  we  flndcyou 

had  good  reafon  to  conceale  his  name,  and  give  us 

furh  obfcurc  directions  for  the  finding  of  Iiim.   Kc>r 

GenebrtirJ,  whom  you  blhdly  call  tlx. fitter  forth  of 

the  ^Tickf  andLatint  £//*r«V/,hath  told  us  furh  a  tale 

...  il        IT-^I  i-    •  i         i-       wata« 

as  will  marre  your  markets.  J  r  or  nee  divides  tlicir  cia  mv/jcrjo. 
Churches  into  thefe  five  parrs:  the  firll  called  r^-j.  r  :m  ante 
the  holy  Tabernacle  5  fo  called  QitoJgraJilnttin 

ilium. 


v.c.T7. 


)  becaufe  it  is  mounted  up  by  fteps  j  and 
this  is  entred  into  by  none  but  the  Priefts.  Thefe- 
cond  hee  entituleth  'uf&rwD  The  Quire  or  Chaacell 
(properly  and  diftinftly  ib  intituled)  Locus  Clcro  & 
Cjutoribtfs  dtputtitifs  ?  aplaccalfigned  for  th-3  cicr^ic 
and  the  finding  men.  The  third  was  A'!u£0»  or  the  Pul 
pit-place,  \vhere  the  Fpiftles  and  Golpels  were  rcade, 
and  Sermon?  preached  nnto  the  people.  The  fourth 
called  yx;$  or  the  body  of  the  Church,  wherein  the 
people  ha'I  their  phces  ,  both  men  and  women, 
though  diltinft  :  and  Ijft  of  all  the  T^o'vcto;,  or  place  for 
Sjpf/jwt  ,  neere  which  i^ood  the  Pevifexfs.  Now  for 
i\\cAltjt's  which  he  fpcakes  of,  they  flood  not,  as  you 
make  them  fhnd,  iy  l^rt^  in  the  Quire  or  'Clwncell^ 
diltiniftly  and  jiropcrly  !b  called,  and  much  Icfle  in  die 
middle  of  it}  buc  in  the  upper  part  thereof,  mounted 
upbyfteps  (and  fevered  from  thcrelt  by  a  vaile  or 
curtaine)  which  place  WoS  there  fore  called  TJ  \\u%$ 
i.  e  .  the  /tlfM-p/i/rCj  the  y,  <nu.7-*pm  °r  /*//<//*//////,  which 
'"before  we  (pake  of.  Jltic  foist  duo  Aittritt^  there,  in 
that  upper  end,  alove  tlie  fteps^ftood  thofe  two  Altjrs 
\vhich  you  talke  of:  not  in  the  middle  of  the  chancell 
QS  you  falfly  fay.  And  there.the  greater  of  the  two  did 
fund  ix  M:\-lio  i  in  the  middle  between  Ko,  th  and  South 
as  they  (lillc^n'iniie:  thelefler,  which  liecciii?  -he 
rroflejif,  iV.iiiHin*T,  on  the  lefc  fide  thereof,  and  ihere- 
on  ilcod  the  bread  appriiwcd  to  be  confccratcd,  tid  ic 
was  Oifred  on  tl  e  Alttr*  Nor  doth  hce  fay,  the  g'csfcr 
is  in  //r  riiJft  ,  Old  railed  tic  l.oly'l'able  y  and  no  more 
Hit  ib  :  V\xM.i]itscpiiittt*dM)  3-t,ffu7"^fr,»>  f*trjff/c»jsy 
&c.  the  greater  of  them  is  in  the  midlt,  and  is  called 
the  /t/f,/ry  the  lolj  T^ttr,  the  HolyofHtlies,  with  ma 
ny  ether  names  which  are  there  attributed  to  it. 

Where 


Where  you  mayfce^thac  ^r.etr^or  ha:hprece.:len-  Cap.  8, 
ck'  of  fa 'era  mettft>  chough  yotiarepleafcd  ro  leave 
cue  Altar ;  asiMie  called  iconclv  the  lo'ffaliic:  this 
iMd.your  evidence  out  of  (??»//./// Hww/  wiJJ  be  cafily 
anfwcrcd.  And  hare  I  cannot  chufc  but  rclj  you,  tine 
herein  you  have  fbewnc  molt  foulely ,  cipher  your  ig 
norance  or  your  falfhood.  If  you  conceived  that  j;~«* 
there  did  fignifie  the  whole  Chancell  ^  then  i:  lliewes 
your  ignorance  :  if  that  you  knew  it  fignified  no  more 
than  the  upper  part,///  q:to.4graJibittjcdit4ltttr^  and  ycc 
Tec  downe  with  m In  rh;  n-^x  or  Chwcelf ,  as  you  have  ^n)  Jatic B-. 
tranflaced  ic ,  then  you  (lievv  your  falfiiood.  And  fo  I 
leave  you  with  an  Vtrum  borum  Mavis  accipe  5  make  ibm  i>e 
your  bed  ofekhenorif  you  willjtakcbothibeingborh  ,%-^ 
yourowne.  The  a'7nv  B^a*which  you  find  in  6V/;//'///  i,ut.e»,nintf 
He/'vef,  is  that  which  you  had  met  with  in  your^/t'/-  ''«'«»«*»• 
^/•//>,  a  place  diftinguiQied  from  the  Chancc-11,  and  rai-  r>u  j* 
fed  above  ir, within  the  v/hich  the  fai  J  t.\\'o Altars  ftc^od, 
which  your  Author  fpeakcs  of  $  and  ftood  in  the  f  mie 
manner  as  you  were  told  before  (one  of  your  Authors 
borrowing  from  the  other  both  his  words  and  matter,) 
though  indeed  one  of  them  was  no  Altar  ^  but  aT,/!7<r 
onely  5  a  Table  cither  ofpropo/itr0Jt}  or  cfprcpj  ation, 
no  preat  matter  which. 

Next  let  as  looke  upon  thr  Larines ,  and  t'ich*  ufe 
herein,  from  whom  the  En<z.ltf)  (is  ft  received  the  faith 
ofchriff)  as  your  felfe  con feile,cal  ling  thcif  Aitftin,  the 
Apoflkofthe  Saxovs.p.zzs.  And  herein  to  begin  with, 
wee  have  gained  thus  much ,  tint  neither  theTWo- 
heretofore,  nor  t\\e  high  Altars  afterwards  did  fhr.d  i;i 
the  niidft  of  the  Church  or  Cl-.ancelU  I'Ut  ^fofarre 
from  the  wall  at  leaft)  as  the  Priefls  and  Dcacctts  wight 
round  about  them.  Wee  hope  you  will  .come 

he  me 


2,     home  in  time.  Firft  you  had  placed  the  Altar  ?» the 
tMMe  of  the  Church  j  then  you  removed  it  very  fairely 
into  the  middle  oftheChancell  3  and  now  you  have  ad 
vanced  k  fo  neere  the  w.?//,  as  there  is  onely  roome  for 
the  Priejfs  and  Dtacons  to  goe  betweene.    I  finde  you 
comming  on  apacej  but  that  (hall  not  Jhelpe  you:  for 
1  am  bent  to  truft  to  nothing  that  you  fay,  till  I  have 
examined  it,  no  though  it  made  unto  my  purpofe: 
Now  for  the  proofe  of  this,  youbringusinlome  Au-r 
thours.and  fome  precedents.  Amongit  your  Authours, 
.         l  Walafildtts  strabo\\w.\\  beene  heard  already,  who  faith 
no  more  3  but  that  in  the  firft  rimes  the /f/fc/1/ in  the 
Church  were  placed  id  dfoerfas  plagaf  ^  according  as, 
poorc  men,  they  cruld  fit  thcmfelves ,  but  makes  the 
gcncrall  ufcto  be  othcrwife,  as  before  was  faid.  AnJ 
^°  ^°  m  B^w'w j  n°d  Sitare*  too,  two  other  of  your 
with     Authours,  as  it  relates  unto  the  Churches,  which  ge- 
-  ncrally,  they  fay3  are  built  ad  oricntew ,  fome  few  ex- 
ccptcd,  which  could  not  othcrwife  be  erefted  >  But 
.  "BeilarmweJ.  aflure  you/loth  not  fpeak  one  word  in  the 
place  by  you  cited,  touching  ihcfxing  of  the  Altars  in 
any  pofttirt ;  proptcr  comwoditattm  loct^  if  the  convc* 
n'tcnce  of  tie  plj'ce  require  it.  That's  an  addition  of  your 
ownc,  no  fuch  thin^  in  "Bell <ir mine.  And  howfoever 
Suw&  feemc  to  look  that  way, yet  he  acknowledged! 
with  all,  that  placing  of  the  Altar  at  the  Eaftendofthe 
Churchy1  as  the  ancient  Cuftorhe.  Sothen.according 
to  your  ownc  witncfics,  the  Alters  generally  did  ufe  to 
ftandatthc  E^end  of  the  Church  ,  and  they  confeft 
it  was  the  ancient  citflowe  that  they  fhould  fo  ftand. 
Thofe  few  which  had  beene  othcrwife  difpofed  of, 
were  but  exrcptfaus  as  it  were  from  the  general/ nth  j 
which  rather  doe  confirme  the  rnk^  than  weaken  the 

authority 


f" 


authority  and  power  thereof.    And  thh  you  might  Cap.  S. 
have  found  in  your  owne  Hofyittiany  vvhofc  teftimonie 
you  produce,  £.zc8.a  1 1  .e£-  a  1 5  .to  prove  that  the  Lords 
tsbleoY^ltardiA,  ufually  ftand  in  the  middle  of  the 
Church .  For  had  you  looked  upon  Uofyinlafa,  as  you 
fliould  have  done ,  you  would  have  found  chat  lice  im- 
plieth  that  the  Altars  generally  were  fituated  at  theEaft 
end,  win  cxtrcmttemplorump.irte)  as  his  owne  words 
arc  5  becaufe  he  adds  noaflmper  et  ub/fa ,  that  at  fome 
times,  in  certaine  places  they  were  featcd  otherwifc. 
And  this  he  makes  to  be  the  meaning  of  BiQiop  IewsBy 
to  who  the  Vicar  was  dire&cd  in  the  letter,  to  find  how 
long  Communion-tables  flood  in  thtwiJJeft  of  Chit  re  he  t : 
by  which  you  may  perceive,  that  your  two  preateli 
Champions  have  forfakcn  you  in  the  open  field.  For 
Vicc'comzs^  whom  you  next  produce,  heedoth  takcic 
as  you  fay ,  for  a  very  chars  and  indubitable  afTerrion, 
Altariamdio  in  ttwplo  allocate  fa ifle^  that  Alwrs  v/ere 
placed  heretofore  in  the  midft  of  the  Church.    And 
heedoth  take  ktoo,  I  fay,  for  as  indubitable,  and  as 
clearej"  non  nifiConftanlin't  temyoribtts  cifprjje Chr/ftia-  CH) Vice. comet 
nos  mijfaw publiet  m  Ecc/cjia  foxtfacrcfhix.  till  the  time  dc  mi<l*  riti!*. 
of  Con$Mt;ne  the  Chiiftbns  did  nor  celebrate  the  Sa-    •lxai>-' '• 
cramcnt  in  thciv  Churches  publickly ':  but  neither  you 
nor  I  am  bound  to  beleeve  him  in  it    No  matter  how 
hee  faith  it,  but  how  hee  proves  it.  *\QVX Alojfitts  (o)p.tij; 
UavArinns  comcsin  here  impertinently,  who  on  thefe 
words,  Circnnfaljo  Alt  an  tintM^  faith^  that  thcrrjtt  na 
tion  ran  fitch  in  former  times ,  that  the  Pricfts  ini^ht 
fomptffi  rotmd about  the  koly  Altar.  But  good  Sirrell 
me  in  your  nextbooke,  of  what  Prhfts  he  fpeakcf.For 
that  the  ////<*/ ftood  fo  in  the  lawof  Af0j£/3  wee  know 
welienough^andthc  Priefts  con^afTed them  abour,wc 

know 


beet.  2.  know  that  alfo.  But  that  the  Altars  ftood  fo  in  the 
Chriftian  Church3you  do  not  tcl  us  from  your  Author: 
which  is  a  pregnant  argument ,  that  it  is  not  in  him  > 

(p '  p.  zio.       F  Bur5as  you  fay.,the  main?  authority  you  rely  tipon^  is  the 
TontificaU :  wherein  the  Bifiop  is  cnjoyned  in  three  fe- 
verall  places  at  the  lead ,  to  compafle  the  Altar  round 
about,or  circumcirca :  which  were  it  faflnedtothertaU^ 
tfereasyoufoyimpofsiblefor  a  Motive  to  doe.  luftfo.  But 
tell  me  in  good  earned,  do  you  conceive  tke  Billiop  is 
enjoy  ned  in  the  Voatijicall,  to  goe  round  about  the  Al-> 
f,//-5(as  you  meane  round  about  it3when  you  tell  us  fo) 
becau  fc  you  finde  it,  Vent  i fix  circuit  ter  Alt  are  ^  once  5 
and  circuit  Jewel)  twice,  as  your  margin  rightly.  The 
ctrcuwcirctti  is  your  owne  $  and  none  of  the  Poxtificals* 
And  for  the  conipafsiags  there  (poke  of,  they  muft  be 
taken  in  circuit u  pofiibil'i,  to  compafle  fo  much  of  it^as 
may  be  compafled.  And  fo  you  muft  interpret  another 
paflagein  the  (aid  rovtificall.  viz.  T/wrj/irtit  Altjreun* 
diqnc  ad  dtxtrwn  &  Jinijirum  tattif  ,  ante  &  dcfi/per, 
p.2o3.and2j2.ofmyEditionbeingof  Varis^Annoifa^. 
I'odtque  there  implies  as  much  as  cirninicirct^  nnrl  yet 
you  lindc  net  that  the  liilhop  is  to  ccnfe  or  fume  the 
further  part  thereof.  Whyfb?  bccaufe  hee  could  not 
come  to  doe  ic.  If  not  to  cenfe  it,  then  certainly  much 
leffe  to  cotNpaJJe  it  about  3  as  you  meane  compafling. 
Compare  you  \.Circitit^  with  my  //W/^5and  tell  mec 
what  you  think  of  this  proper  Argument ,  upon  wifcr 
thoughts. 

f  q'  p.ns.  From  Authors  you  proceed  to  Precedents,  4  P;v- 

cedentt  an  faring  thefe  Authorities  in  all  ages  ^  and  in 
all  Countries  irfutfocver.  In  cafe  your  Precedents 
ferve  your  turnc  no  better  than  your  Authors  did, 
there's  never  a  Scriveners  Clerk  in  London  ^  but  will 

(hew 


Cm) 

fhffw  better  VreceJents  for  a  poore  Noverht  Vnivtrfi.  Cap.  S. 
And  of  this  quality  is  your  firit,  agenerall  "Precedent^ 
a.  perfeft  Woverivt  Vniverft.  For  as  you  fay ,  you  were 
excreamly  taught  at  by  all  grangers ,  for  matyngunto 
them  fitch  afooltf)  queftfan  5  at  they  d-x-asd  it.  And  like 
enough ,  I  would  have  laught  at  you  ray  felfe ,  bad  I 
heard  you  aske  it :  for  never  did  (o  great  a  o/V/V/aske 
fo  poore  a  queftion.  I  know  your  meaning  yeta  how 
ever.  You  would  be  thought  to  have  beene  laught  ac, 
for  chinking  that  the  A//<//v  generally  ftood  at  the  Eafl 
end  of  the  Church  :  but  if  you  asked  the  queftion,  you 
were  onely  laughc  at  by  the  Grangers,  for  thinking  it  a 
matter  queftionablc  5  that  they  fiiould  ftand  in  any 
other  place  than  that.  And  though  I  Like  this  for  a 
tale,  a  very  Winters  talc,  fit  onely  to  be  told  by  fuch  a 
confidence  as  yours  :  yet  being  told  by  one  of  the 
right  facYion3  no  doubt  but  it  will  pafTe  for  currant, 
and  finde  a  credence  among  thofe  who  are  not  able 
todiftinguifhbetweenef/J^and  chaefe^  but  fv/alJoM' 
all  that  comes  before  them.  Your  Noverint  I'nlwrfe 
being  fealet)  and  delivered,  wee  fiiould  lookc  forwards 
to  the  reft  ofyourobfervacions*,  but  wee  will  borrow 
leaveawhilcj  to  lookc  upon  the  Church  ofMt/fai/re9 
and  on  the  Reformation  made  therein ,  by  the  great 
CardinaJl  "Borrow**.  It  feemes,  before  his  time,  rthat 
there  had  beene  fome  Mtars  railed  in  very  inconveni- 
cnt  places:  fome  neere  the  P///p//$  fomc  nccre  the  &Alwr, 
Organs^  fome  againft  one  pillur,  fome  a<jainft  ano 
ther  $  and  fome  ncere  the  doore :  yet  finde  I  none 
particularly  underthe  Heading  Desks  ,  nor  doc  I  think 
that  you, can  finde  a  Reading  Deske  in  any  of  the  Af/A 
hinc  Churches.  Onely  becaufe  you  faid  before ,  that  fp.7f.7f? 
the  Pulpit  audthe  Headfog  i'w  might  be  called  Mtart 

no 


(2 

Sect.  2.     n0  lc(Te  properly  than  the  HolyTaUti  you  would  now 
fhcvv  an  Altar  nccrc  the  Heading  Dtstg ,  in  hope  the 
Reading  Dtske  may  one  day  become  an  Altar,  i  hope 
you  cannot  hence  conclude  ,  that  the  High  Altar 
flood  indifferently  in  any  pare  of  the  Church  5  or  that 
in  thofe  fmall  Chnrchcs  wherein  there  was  one  Altar 
only,  that  one  and  only  Altar  flood  as  it  hapricd  in  the 
('.'  p.*:».         body  of  the  Church,  under  c  the  Organ-loft,  the  Read" 
ing  Dcs£g^  the  Pittyit ,or  you  know  not  where.  There's 
none  fo  ignorant  of  the  world  abroad,but  knowes  thac 
in  the  greater  Churches  there  were  fever/all  Altars^ 
none  of  the  which  come  under  ourconfidcnHion,  buc 
that  on  e  Alfar^  wliich  was  difpofcd  of  in  the  Chjttcctt. 
Your  Pillar-Altars ,  and  your  CfatppeH-AttjrfWcrcof 
another  nature  3  and  had  their  fcverall  places  in  the 
Church ,  according  as  they  might  bee  fituate  with  the. 
moft  convenicncie.  But  fo^  I  truft  it  was  not  with  the 
High  Alttr^  astlvcy  call  it.  And  yet  in  this  you  tcJl  us, 
f ,  p.m.         if  we  may  belecvc  you  u"  that  in  the  ferere  rcforwa- 
e:  tion  which  that  CardinaU  made  in  all  the  Churches 
ct  of  the  ft  ate  of  Millaiacfa  doth  require  that  there  be 
Cc  left  afpacc  of  eight  Cubits  at  the  leuft,  betwccne  the 
^  High  Altar  and  the  W.ill,  to  admit  the  a(!>(bnceof 
ccmore  Priefti  and  Deacons  at  feafts  of  dedication, 
"  und  other  appointments  of  folemnc  MafTes.  If  this 
were  true,  it  were  enough,  we  would  feck  no  further, 
lint  there  is  nothing  tree  in  ail  this  (lory.  The  di- 
flancc  that  you  fpcake  of,  was  not  betwccne  the  Altar 
and  the  it'tll^  but  betwccne  the  Altar  and  the/ty/r, 
quo4  fiptHfft  ab  Alt  art  congrvo  fyatio  cbflet ,  the  rayle, 
or  barres,  and  not  the  wall ;  as  in  the  fourth  Coun- 
ccll  ofMilltiae ,  publifhed  by  Bittivs  ,  being  the  ex 
tract  of  thofc  Afts^  to  which  you  fend  us.  But  left  wee 

fliould 


iliould  fall  fliort  of  our  prefent  purpofei,  which  is  to  Cap.  8* 
fer  you  forth  unto  the  world,  for  the  rnoft  notable 
Counterfeit  of  thefe  later  Agcs$  wee  will  bee  bold  to 
borrow  helpe  from  your  owne  deere  felfe,  againffc 
this  man  otLincobteflrire  that  Co  abufeth  his  good  Au 
thors.  You  cite  us  in  this  place,  4ffa  Erclef.  M(di- 
olan:  part  4.  lib.  tQ.de  fabric  a  EC  clef,  and  p.ig.  48.  of 
y 'out  holj Table ,  you  cite  the  very  fame  againe.     Bur 
there  you  fing  another  fong,  and  report  him  rightly 
in  thefc  words.  "  When  you  build  an  High  Altar, 
"there  muftbefiomtheji><tf  or  lomf  degree  thereof, 
Ce  to  the  raylet  that  inclofe  the  fame,  eight  Culites  and 
cc  more,  it  the  Church  will  beare  ir,that  there  may  be 
"roonie  for  the  CJergie  to  affiit- ,  (  as  fometimesis 
required  at  folenme  M*r//£/.)  *  Et  me  mibi  pcrfiJtpro-  (^S 
f/ifyfftc  ffji/ji  prodjf  ait  £  \Vhat  have  wchcare,  the 
Miwfter  of  lincolnflrire ,  confcfllng  guilty?  His  Au 
thor  wronged  in  one  place,  and  moft  miraculoufly 
righted  in  another  ?  Now  fie  upon  thee  tint  couldeft 
not  kcepe  thine  owne  counfell  \  but  nmft  needs  blurc 
out;atl,  though  againftthy  felfe.    And  fo  Ex  ore  tuo 
iniqite  Index.    The  fpace  you  talke  of  was,  as  you  fee, 
betweencthc  Altar  and  the  ralk  ;  and  not  betweenc 
the  Altar  and  the  wall,  which  was  the  nutter  to  bee 
proved.    The  CardinaU  was  too  good  an  Antiyujrie, 
to  makefo  great  a  diftance  as  youfalfly  charge  him 
with,  betweene  the X/frf/*  and  the  rvall.   And  though 

he  was  not  ftinttd  v  as  you  idcl V  drcame,  for  taking  WMa*e* 

i    /.  »        •    i  .    /-.f  '/-      .//  .        SMitiiftsniei 

downc  thole  pettt  Alttrsmm*  Church  of  Mtliawe:  /or  titftn/tte, 

yet  fuch  a  reverent  eftccmethe  Popes  had  of  him.  p."1- 
that  the  whole  z  order  of  the  Ht/mil/ati  was  fuppref-  -^jThuanw 
fed  for  ever  5  onely  becaufe  one  defperate  knave  a«  hft.i.  50. 
mongft  them,  made  an  attempt  upon  his  pcrfon. 
This  Cvid,  thofe  fev;  particulars  v/hich  you  have  to 

T  fti.-sv 


1 


Sc&.  2.  fheWj  might  very  eafily  be  granted,  and  doe  no  preju 
dice  at  all  to  the  caufc  in  hand  :  and  it  were  not  amide 
to  doc  fo ,  but  that  you  falfific  your  Authors  with  fo 
high  an  iir.pudcncctinfome  ofthofe  particuJarsyvvhich 

fa)  I'.uo.  you  have  to  fhew.  Your  inftance  of  an a  Ancient  Mar- 
bh  Altar  3  in  the  middle  of  the  Catacombe,  wee  will 
freely  yeeld  you  .>  for  fay  you  not  your  felfe,  that 
ic  TV.;/  apljre*  in  which  tic  ancient  fiifiops  of  Rome  rrere 
wont  to  retire  thetnGlvts  in  time  ofperffctttion  .<?  If  fo, 

ri-«i 

it  was  well  they  had  an  A/A//*.  Thole  were  no  times 
to  be  follicitous  about  the  nhcin^  of  the  fame,  as  be 
fore  we  told  you.  Next  in  Saint  Peters  Church  in  the 
Vatican  you  havefound  an  Altar^  called  Alt,trc  A/>£,<*/- 
ert\  buttheworftis,  you  know  noc  \vhcre  to  place 
(b)  p.  1*1.  ir.  The  Italian  Awhour  whom  you  '•  cite,  tcls  you  the 
•poflttre  of  this  High  hltarfvasin  the  tnidftoftht  Quire  .* 
and  yet  Clctnnltius^  whom  you  cite  p. 222.and  allow 
of  too  .  hath  placed  ic  ante  Chorum ,  before  the  very 
Quire.  This  as  you  fay,  was  not  ofyrved  bjyotirfor- 
mcr  Antlor  5  you  fay  true  indeed.  Your  former  Au 
thor,  if  you  report  him  n^Iit,liath  placed  it  in  thcmitlft 
<>f  l/.'f  wtt/t'fy  and  therefore  could  not  wellobfervc 
that  ic  (tood  before  ic.  But  ftarid  ic  where  ic  will,what 
arc  you  the  wifer  ?  Doc  you  nc»c  finde  in  c  Walafridiu 
Sfr,t!>oj\vx  in  this  very  Church  there  arc  many  A//,/r/3 
fome  placed  towards  the  Eaft,  and  fome  in  other  parts 
there  of:  Alt  aria  non  ttntuminQrHntem^fedcliamiK 
tfle  tftftrilwtj.  And  findc  you  not  alfo 
5  that  in  that  very  Church  there*  are 

ConciiTnd,    an  hundred  and  nine  Altars  5  and  then  no  marvel!  if 
»a'*«4.  fome  0  f  thcm  ftand   in  the  middle  of  the  Quire,  and 

fome  before  it.  Nor  doth  ClxnmHitts  fay  itof  that  Alt  an 
which  before  you  fpake  of,  that  it  doth  ftand 

before 


before  the  g«to  5  but  one)/  tcla  you,  o^ />//</  ^//^    Cap»8. 

</#/*  Chorum,  that  before  the  ^///>e  there  was  an  ^7- 

f</r.    And  which  moft  clearcly  fhc wes  your  falfhood, 

hee  doth  moft  perfectly  diftinguifti  that  before  the 

guirtfiom  the  Ugh  kltar  under  which  Saint  Peter  and 

Saint  Tatfllie  buried,  (which  your  Italian  Authour 

fpeakes  of)  by  the  number  of  Indulgences.  You  mighc 

have  fpared  Cktmnltlw  well  enough,  for  any  fervicc 

hee  hath  done  you  5  but  that  you  Jove  to  clog  your 

margin.  And  for  Saint  Peters  Altar,  place  it  it  where 

you  will,  cither  in  the  middle  of  the  Quire  ^  or  before 

the  doorc,you  cannot  thence  conclude  th.it  there  was 

no  High  Altar  anciently  ac  the  En  (lend  of  the  Church, 

no  more  than  if  a  man  fhouM  fiy,  there  is  an  Altar  in 

the  middle  of  King  He.'irj  the  Sevcirh  his  Chappell 

£&.Wtfmi*8eri  e-&o  there  is  no  Altjr  at  the  Kail  end 

of  the  Quire. 

From  e  Italy  your  Bookes  tranfport  you  into  Ccr-  (c)p.*».' 
nun}  ,  and  there  you  heard  another  xvitrers  talc,  of 
that  alacrity  which  Wr'//'£/Wthc  ancitnt  Saxon  found 
in  the  face  of  Charles  the  Creac  ,  when  he.  be&tn  to 
approach  that  Talk  which  was  in  the  mid  ft  of  the 
Church.  For  this  you  cite  Crantziit*  in  Mctrop. 
1.  i.e.  24.  but  there's  not  one  word  tha:  reflects  that 
way  in  all  that  Chapter,  nor  indeed  could  bee,  if  you 
nurkcic;  the  Eraperour  charles  being  dead  and  bu 
ried  Chapter  is.  That  which  you  nicanc  is  Chapter  9. 
(fliouldnot  I  now  btftrew  you  for  this  miftakc)and 
there  indeed  it  is  related  in  this  fore  :  To  flea  ^ti•» 
nicnfam  adiera*  Templo  mediam,  it  a  hilari  taihi  con- 
QrttusesvHltttt&c.  that  the  good  Emperour  chan 
ged  his  Countenance,  at  his  approach  unto  the  Ta 
ble.  How  feated?  Twpk  tntdiam.  What  in  the  mid- 

T  2  -       die 


t)p 


Secft.  2.    die  of  the  Church  >  I  cannot  tell  you  that.  For  then 
hce  would  have  ^i^inntedioTempli,  and  not  Ttmflo 
wtdiam.  The  Table  Tcwplo  Media  was  the  H/g/;  yf/- 
/rfrout  ofqueftion,  and  ftood  as  now  ic  doth  at  the 
upper  end  of  the  Quire:   and  yet  was  Tewph  media 
juft  in  the  middle  to  the  Church  3  or  any  man  that 
commingfrom  the  lower  end  ,  did  approach  unto  it. 
Nor  doth  Hefpfaiav  tc\\  us  f  as  you  make  him  tell 
us  ?   that  in  the  Reformation  -which  the  Helvetians 
made  at"  Tigure  ,  (  (6  great  .a  Clerke  as  you  fhould 
have  called  it  Zurich^)  An.  1527.  they  found  that  in 
old  time  the  Font  had  heene  fituated  in  that  very 
place  ,  where  the  Toprft  Hfyjj  Altar  was  then  demo- 
fg)<lcOn-.',5ne  liflicd.    Hofyi»ia»  K  onely  faith,  Wort  ohfcitris  xotis  dt- 
Altatium.ca.<.  prehc  nfitm  ejj'c  ,  that  ic  was  foconjeciLired  by  certainc 
fignes.  And  chinke  you  that  thofe  fignes  might  not  de 
ceive  them.  Befides5/-/<?/p//;/^fpeakes  not  of  the  P0- 
pijb  High  Altar^  but  cals  ic  onely  the  High  Altar  , 
Alurc  fiiMwutx.  Popifo  was  foyfted  in    by  you  9  to 
poorc  men  bclccvc  rlnt  all  HighAltitrs,  were 
)  Pofijb  Altars,  and  therefore  ipfo  falfo,  to 
be  demolifhed,  Such  excellent  arts  you  have  to  in- 
fufe  faction  in  mcns  mindes,  as  never  any  man  had 
more.  From  Germany  you  paffe  to  France,  where  you 
finde  nothing  for  your  purpofe.  You  h  are  informed, 
you  fay?  that  there  they  floe  not  faften  their  High  At 
tars  to  the  really  but  the  leffir  or  Requiem  Altars  on 
ly.   I  dare  be  bold  to  fay,  no  man  ever  told  you  fo: 
the  contrary  thereunto  being  fo  apparent  ;  as  I  my 
felfe  can  fay,of  my  owne  obfervation.  So  that  your  ge- 
nerall  being  falfe  ,  that  which  you  tell  us  of  the  rich 
fable  in  the  Abbie  Church  of  S.Denis,  will  conclude 
no  more.,  than  yoatCathedralt  Clwrch  at  Dover.  And 

yec 


yet  you  tell  us  felfc  in  that  too.  For  that  the  Table  Cap,  8. 
is 'not  laytd  along  the  rt>dU ',  but  flands  Table-wife  ^QVL  (»;?.**}. 
find  not  in  the  Theatre ,  cited  in  the  Margin  :  thac  you 
have  added  of  your  owne.  Nor  doth  the  Infcription 
which  you  bring,  prove  that  it  ftandethT^^n-v/?.- 
for  the  Infcription  rmy  as  well  fit  an  High  Altar  now, 
as  ^Communion  Table  heretofore*  Befides,  how  ever 
.  it  k  was  ufed  before,  in  cnfe  it  be  not  ufed  fo  now ,  it  ^  A;rt/  ^  r/y 
makes  no  matter  howitftands.  For  if  it  bee  a  Table  infcription.mujl 
onely,  a  faire  rich  Talk  to  feed  the  eye,  and  not  im-  n«^wtbtc* 

ii-  f   i     •          i«    •          r\rr  i  -     •      "fe<t  fcr  a  cm~ 

ployed  in  any  of  their  religious  Offices:   place  it  in  ,,iiaien  rabtt 

Cods  name  how  you  will;  and  make  your  beftofit  i-eretefore. 

having  placed  it  fo. J  The  holy  Altar  in  the  fame  Church  (l^'  "3'' 

placed  before  thcTowbe of  'Charles  the  bald  ^flands ,  as 

you  fay  ,  in  a  wanner  in  the  mid  ft  of  that  roovie.  Not 

in  the  w/^  expreffcly  ,  but?«  a  manner  in  tbcmidft* 

Neither  fo,  nor  fo.  For  the  faid  holy  ^^har,  as  they 

call  it ,  ftonds  againft  the  wall ,  part  of  the  Chappell 

being  bchin'Jeit,  (a  place  appointed  for  the  Sacrijl) 

according,  as  you  cannot  chufe  but  have  olifcrved  , 

in  many  of  our  Cathcdrall  Churches  in  thisRealme. 

Anl  thefe  indedd  5    are  no  ftrange  poftttres  in  that 

<Conntrey;  you  fay  right  in  that :  but  very  wrong  as 

you  intend  it,  as  if  it  were  not  ftrange  in  Prance  to 

have  the  Altars  &m<\.  in  the  midft  of  their  Chitrdet. 

Both  the  rich  Table  that  you  fpeake  of,  and  die  holy 

Altarzs  they  call  it ,  ftand  there  no  otherwife  than 

other  Altars ,  both  in  France ,  and  elft  where:  which 

1  can  fay  of  certaine  knowledge ,  having  marked  them 

well. 

The  other  three  rich  Tables  which  you  tell  us 
of ,  m  two  of  them  in  Conjianlineple  ,  and  one  in 
Rome ,  conclude  as  little  to  your  purpofe  :  there  '•#•*.**.**?•• 

«T»  l      • 

T  3  being 


bccing  no  proofe  brought  that  they  flood  fabte* 
rpffe  ,  or  were  not  layed  along  the  reaU^  but  one- 
ly  your  mecre  fay-foes  9  and  fomc  bold  conjc- 
iftures.  Nay  ic  appcarcs  moft  plainely  3  in  that 
wherein  you  infbmce  firft,  thac  it  was  made  to 
ftand  againft  a  wall  3  and  in  no  place  elfe.  For  it 
is  (aid  of  thac  incomparable  Lady  fulcheria  ,  and 
not  Tulcheli*. ,  as  you  call  her  ,  the  Emperours 
Sifter  y  tlut  making  fuch  a  coftly  'and  magnificent" 
Pctce  °f  vvorkc  as  the  T^/r  was:  n  fliec  caufcd  to 
"Scribed  on  the  Front  thereof,  that  all  might 

..     tr         I         ^     '     ^        ~  '  "•  />  '-       * 

t  K  ,  ]x,ai  trri  Tb1  /^gTaTr^  T«5  TpxTreO1*  ^5  av 
fcx.oAnAa  £]  the  purpofe  of  the  gifc,  and  true 
intentions  of  the  ^iver.  Had  ic  becne  then  the 
life  of  the  Church  in  Conjldntfaople ,  to  place  the 
Iflly  Table  like  a  Communion  Table ^  no  doubt  but 
that  flicc  fliould  liavc  caufcd  the  faid  Infrripthn 
to  bee  made  accordingly.  Not  on  the  Front  there 
of  ,  for  Front  ic  rould  have  none  ,  except  you 
pleafe  to  call  the  narrow  end  by  the  name  of  Yront^ 
(as  none  will  call  ks  if  you  doe  not;)  but  round 
ubouc  ic  And  being  infcribed  round  about  ,  ic 
mirht  aseafily  hive  beene  read,  the  Table  (landing 
Table-wife  ^  as  beeing  on  the  front ,  the  Table  (lan 
ding  Altar-Tfifc.  So  thac  you  have  found  out  art 
excellent  Argument  again(i  your  fclfc  :  and  \vce 
(o;p.iij,  tlunkc  you  for  ir.  Your  fccond  indancc  is  °  of  a 
TaWt ,  fcnt  from  Fra  ce  ?  bv  King  fepin ,  to  the 
Pope,  and  dedicated  to  Saint  Teter.  How  prove 
you  that  this  Table  w;is  nor  made  an  Altar  3  nor 
p'actd  A/far-rrije?  Mirry  fay  you,  hecaufe the  Pope 
rtrurned  this  Anfwcr  to  the  Kin^  ,  thac  on  that 
very  Table  hee  had  offoed  the  ftcrifoe  of  praife  to 


_ 


Cod  5  for  the  profperitie  of  kit  Kingdom.  Cap. 
Ao  admirable  difputant.  But  good  Sir  .,  wirh  your 
leave  9  might  not  the  Pope  offir  tke  facrifice  of 
praifc  to  Almighty  God,  on  any  thing  but  on  that 
table:  or  on  that  Table  fituatc  all  along  the  wall, 
but  in  the  pofture  onely  of  a  common  Tab!?  „•  or 
cot  upon  that  Trf£/*,  changed  into  an  kltar  .<?  I  fee 
you  are  excellent  good  at  all  things  }  but  for  non- 
feqttitnrs  ,  a  very  noxe-fuch.  For  yourlaft  inftancc 
of  the  holy  Table  offered  u\>  tyluftinian  inthcTcm- 
pic  of  Sophia  in  Coitftentiaople  $  you  build  on  this, 
that  the  Infcription  on  the  fame  was  ingravenyJo,. 
0ev  ,  round  about  it  }  and  therefore  could  not  have 
beene  feene  ,  had  the  faid  Table  beene  laied  along 
the  wall.  Thus  you  couclude,  and  your  conclu- 
fion,  as  it  fliould  ,  followes  dttcriorem  partcm  ,  in 
the  worft  fence  too.  Your  Circuit  ,  and  your  yj- 
pwQev  have  beene  fcanned  already.  Nor  can  you 
prove  by  yiJyta  ^at  the  infcription  on  the  .Table 
went  quite  round  about  it.  It  might  bee  donejy  yjp^ 
and  not  clrcnm  circa.  Cannot  you  walked  ywu  about 
an  A//«/r3  or,  if  that  word  offend  you.about  zTable 
placed  againft  a  wall,  backwards  and  forwards,  from 
the  extreme  corner  on  the  North-Eaft  ,  to  the  ex 
treme  corner  on  the  South  eatt,  and  yet  not  walke 
.quire  round  about  ir,  in  iperfeft  circuit  ?  if  no  ,  you 
undcrftand  no1:  what  you  nicane  when  you  fay  &  yJ3W. 
if  yeasthen  you  may  finde  how  the  infcnprion  niighc 
bee  engraven  yJxoGav  on  luftiniansTable^  and  yettlie 
Table  ftand  all  along  the  wall.  You  fee  1  hope,  by  this 
time,  the  exceeding  weakenelfc  of  your  caufcaso- 
ther  men  may  fee  by  this,  the  extreme  foulcncfle  of 
your  carriage  ?  in  the  handling  of  it. 

T  4  But 


I . 


0*4) 

Sc&,2.          BUC  to  what  purpofe  tell  wee  you ,  of  what  you 
fee  :  who  being  nor  blinde,  nor  blrulyr^  as  you  make 
the  Doctor,  doe  Aiut  your  eyes  moft  wilfully  that  you 
ruay  not  fee  $  or  father  fee  too  well,  but  \viJl  dilfemble 
what  you  fee.     Great  paincs  ailurcdly  you  take  to 
prove  that  the  communion  Table  ought  not  to  ftand 
at  the  upper  end  of  the  Chancell:  and  that  it  is  againft 
the  Liturgie  and  Canons  of  this  Church  3  agafcft  the 
practice  of  antiqui-  ie,  yea  and  againft  the  uf.ige  in  the 
Church  of  7to///<?  ,to  place  it  fo.  And  which  is  yet  more 
ftrange,  you  call'  afcandalons  fhine  en  them  wliich 
opine  the  contrarie,  as  ifthcy  were  of  very  defperate 
faith  3  and  corrupt  afFe&ions.  For  p.  76.  you  fling  a 
jealoufie  abroad,  as  if  in  placing  the  Communion  Ta 
ble  dlttfrwiJe.t/My  Meant  jomntbat  flfry  than  for  fears 
of  on  r  gracious  Ki»&t  hey  dare fpeakgotit :  tlicMsJje  at 
Icaft  ,  no  qucftion,  who  can  take  it  otherwifc.    And 
worfc  than  fo  s  p. 204.  you  tell  us,  that  thcfc  fjcrv  Re" 
fortfiirS}  though  they  prepan  and  lay  grounds  for  the 
jawe,  dare  not  (forfi.trc  of  fo  man}  Law  j  and  Canons) 
appirer.tly  profeffe  thtir  Eleufinbn  Do<!trkies  :  and 
that  they  arc  lufudas  jet,  in  tal^ngin  tlx  outworks^ 
that  thut  being  don>,  they  may  in  time  hwe  about  with 
the  fort  it  ftlfe  :  With  fph'ht  and  calumnic  enough. 
One  that  fhould  rt  ad  thcfe  paffagcs,  would  il  icikc  thac 
y our telfe did  place  a  great  dca-c  of  reli^ion^in  thefe 
ourwaid  mitters :  yet  fuchis  your  ilMuck,  or  want 
of  memory  5  orfcmewhat  which  is  worfe, that  you 
confcfo  in  other  places,  that  placing  of  che  loly  Table 
in  the  upper  end  of  the  Chanccll,  is  of  a  very  meane 
andinferiour  qualitiei  not  to  bee  flood  upon  or  gain- 
faid,  if  it  bee  required.     For  p  6j.  you  declare  your 
felfcjthat  jwv  would  not  advfy  any  Clergic-man  of  n hat 

dcgrer 


degree  fiever,  tooppafc  lit  Qrctiaar}}  tiller  in  this  of  Cap;  3 
any  other  farticufar  flffo  lory  a  nature.  S0lpj?tf#>ifitre9 

nurke  y^a  that  i  ami  rhen  confidcr  vvirh  ycurfcife, 

how  litde  caufe  you  had,  to  take  To  much  paincs  to  fo 

Jitcle  pnrpofr ;  but  that  you  have  a  niindc  codifturbe 

the  Church,  that  }ou  may  fiflithe  better  in  a  troubled 

vva:er.  So  for  the  -ariter  0}  the  letter  ^  hee  figniilctli 

unto  •  he  Vicar,3  chat  the  franking  of  the  Communion  'fa-  (^  U9-,  Tilh.f 

lle^  rrasitnto  him  a  ftivgfo  indifferent  >that  title   cof-  p-n. 

fence  and  umbraves  were  fjfyv  by  the  tonwe  agaiuji  />, 

be  e  would  neither  move  it^  nor  remove  it.  And  you  your 

fclfchavc  brought  him  in  Jijconrfag  with  the  men 

^  Or  ant  ham  ^  oftheinJiflcrencie  of  this  circinuftance 

in  its  orrnc  nature  :  as  in  anorhcr  place  ^  you  make  his   (b\  Alatr>n  the 

,„  •  •    •  r  •     J-JT         >     •       L     r-  i     i        mtch  it  ctinect* 

Lordff.'/ps  opinion  tobeevwytrrdtJfertNt*  m  thcwidpJa-  t/f,///«Riibriclc 
cingof  thcTab'e  ,  how  ever  the  Rtbric^oftlae  Li-  toi>eit,y  appa- 
titrate  did  fccmc  apparent ly  to  bee  a.'ainftit.  Nor  is  he  r.tnt\nuthtt.  . 

i      r         r  i        i   •  •          c  •      i  i        t         .      Lnafl-ii*  fpiiti. 

onely  lo  rclolvcd  in  pou.rot  jud  cmcnt,  but  nee  is  t,»toi>tiir.in. 
pofirivc  for  the  fitting  of  it  dlfar-rrife3  in  point  of  ^//^y/ r-  '- 
practice  :  cthe  TM9  as  you  tell  us,  in  his  LcrJpipt  ^  l^-'J-r-i- 
private  ChappcU  btiug  fo  placed.,  and  furnifitd  with 
flate  AKd Ornaments  above  any  t  e  pcore  Vicar  /;</.-/ 
ever  fecne  in  this  Rirtgdome ,  the  i  hi]y?ll  Roydll  ondj 
exctytcd,    A  ftrangc  rale  to  teli,  that  k>r 'lie  plucint:  of 
the  Table  Altar-  wife ;t he  ftubncke  fliould  bccfo  j;  p  :- 
rentlyaeainfticj  and  yet  his  Lordfl'ipsvprnhnji  oul.i  lc 
fo  indifferent  in  it:  his  practice  peremptoric  for  the 
formes  obferved  in  rhc  Reyall  Cl.JpptU  j  and  yet  that 
you  fliould  bee  ^ir^^and//Vf^p4/towiitekimkam, 
fo  flatly  contrary  ro  that,  vhich  in  iiis  ov,  ne  ho  life  he- 
approves  and  practtfeih.  Morcftrange  that  you  flrmlJ 
take  this  paincs  to  fa'fifieyour  Authors  anddifturb 
the  peace  and  unifoimitic  of  the  Church,  in  matters 

of 


2. 


of  fo  lorv  *  nature  5  wherein  you  would  have  no  mm 
difobey  his  Ordinane.  Were  you  not  taken  with  ajjtf- 
fit  of  giddimflt)  wee  fhould  have  found  fome^»/?^«- 
cie  in  you,  though  but  little  truth.  But  thus  you  deale 
with  us  throughout  your  Bookc^and  wander  up  and 
downe?  you  know  not  whither  .'the  biafle  of  your 
judgement  drawing  owne  way,  and  your ?eale  unto 
the  fa&ion,  pulling  you  another  way.  It  feemes  you 
havebeene  much  diftra6ted3<///W^C//p/V(p3  imnsali* 
itdfuadet:  and  you  are  ftill  irrefolute  whattodoe,or 
thinkc.  Though  for  the  prefcnt  fit,  like  the  madde 
woman  in  the  Poet,  you  fetupon  the  bufinefle  with 
a  video  melioraproboque :  but  will  tkteriorafeqtti,  doe 
wee  what  wee  can.  in  which  madde  mood  no  wonder 
if  you  fall  inro  many  irnpertinencies,  and  extravagan 
cies  ,  to  which  now  wee  haften :  and  having  made  a 
full  difcovery  of  you  in  them  3  will  conclude  the 
whole. 


SECT. 


A  ^        _ .„ 


Cap.  9. 


CHAP.  IX. 


A  bricfe  furvcy  and  ccnfure  of  the  firft  fervice 
ot  fxfr*<frfg*0c'tf»inthc 


The  M'miflcrs  extravagancies,  oncof  t 

whole  difcmrfe*   Hu  ignorant  mtftakfgtnthe  Matficma. 

•  titks  concerning  the  inventions  t/li'cJitlc,  Arcbjmedef, 
and  Pythagoras.  7/^f  MiniHcr  fruiters  in  th?  original 
of  Epif.opall  authority.  Hu  brtn^in^inof  Sandla  Clara, 
<W  Sanita  Pctra,/Z»r  r/-r  Hngltpnelj.  The  Altrnfttr  mi/~ 
t«kts  lie  ctft  oj  the  Germane  Priclh.  Hif  c-tvilsatthc 
forme  of  Prayer  before  the  Sermon^  twd  turning  tnvards 
the  Eaft  in  the  Act  of  Prayer.  The  Mtnifttrt  ignorant  en* 
liiVours  to  advance  the  authority  of  the  Archdeacons.  The 
Altmttir  wiftitkcn  tn  the  Diaconicon.  what  the  Diacony 
TVM  ,  ar.d  that  it  addfs  bf.t  little  to  the  di^niiie  oj  A;<lu 
tleacons  ,  that  the  old  Deacon  had  th  k^e}l>'g  °j  ft- 
The  (jMtnitter  abfurdly  fctl  the  Dcscon<ib<'Ve  the  Pricit. 
PortarC  A'tarc,  not  an  honour  i»  the  //r/f  Deacons,  lut  * 
(ttvicc  ot.cly.  Thelittle  honour  d'neij  t»c  Aitr.tftcrto  the 
do\vnc  thetr  pedigicctroni  t^e 


ll 


.  (268) 

firfl  Deacons.  Tkt  tjliiniftcrs  ivtwrar.t  m>  ft*ke  in  hit  own 
word  utenfil.  The  fJWinJlcr  fobj&s.tke  Pricft  to  the  at. 
thtritj  of  the  Churchwarden,  tndfertliAtfttrpoftfdfipcth 
LindwooJ.  .  Hit  ignarMt  derivations  of  the  prrfer.t 
Church  warden  /row  fta  old  Occonomus.  The  Mir.ifttr 
endivours  to  exclude  the  Clcrgic/rcw  mcdlittgin  ftcttlar 
matters  ;  andtothf.tcMde.kttfcth  tkffftttho'ritie  of  the  anci 
ent  F.itljcrs.'  Hit  igntfiwcc  in  the  Cataclufine,  avdcox- 
p.der.t  mifltik^t  in  thtit.  His  heart  ttfie  pics,  for  bowing  ac 
thcnamcof  IESU  s. 


tcls  us  of  Ckrjjipfw  the  Philo- 
..  that  being  a  great  Writer  a  he 
tooke  up  every  thing  that  came  in  his 


fvvcllcd  his  Books  wirh 
tellimohics  an-Vquoutions,  more  than  needed.  And 
thereupon  A$ollodorus  the  Athcti?<wufc<\tQ  fay,  that 
taking  from  Chryfypus  writings,  ra,  etMorpictj  all  that 
\vascithcr  not  his  o\vne,or  aralJ  nothing  to  hispur- 
pofe  5  ;igVo5  avrS  o  ^xpr«4  3  his  Papers  would  be  cm- 
ptie  of  all  manner  ot  matter.  QmMiwfierofLiitfvto 
Dioccfe  is  much  like  that  Author.  To  make  his  Book 
Jookc  bi^  upon  u  «,  Iiec  left  out  nothing  that  hcc  met 
\vhh  hi  his  own  collciUons  ^  or  had  htcne  fent  in  to 
him  by  his  friends  to  fet  out  the  worke:  and  that  it 
might  appeare  a  remit  learned  piece3hee  hath  drefTcd 
tip  his  margin  with  quotations  of  all  forts  .,  andufes. 
But  with  fo  little  judgement  and  election  ,  that  many 
times  hee  runs  away  fo  fir  from  his  mayo  bufinefie, 
and  from  the  Argument  which  hee  took  in  hand}  that 
wee  have  much  adoe  to  findchim.  And  mould  one 
deale  with  him,  according  to  the  hint  that  wee  have 
given  us  of  ChryjtppHs  5  wee  fliould  find  fuch  a  full  in 

the 


he  mayn  bulk  of  his  difcourfe,  that  the  good  man  Capi 
would  have  a  very  forry  frame, to  fupporchis  Table. 
Such  and  fo  many  are  his  imf>crtinenciesj)fr&  vagaries^ 
that  the  leaft  part  of  all  his  worke  is  the  holy  Table, 
though  that  were  oncly  promifed  in  the  Title  :  and 
wee  may  fay  thereof  in  the  Poets  language,  Pars  mi 
nima  efl  ipfa  paella  fni^  the  drefie  is  bigger  than  the 
body.  Howfoever  3that  we  might  not  feem  to  have 
took  all  this  paines^in  a  thing  of  nothing^  I  have  redu 
ced  into  the  body  of  this  anfwer,  what  ever  of  him 
I  could  pollibly  bring  in ,  though  by  head  and  moul 
ders  :  leaving  the  reft  of  his  untra&able  extravagant 
cies,  fuch  as  by  no  meanes  could  bee  brought  into 
rank  and  order,  to  bee  here  examined  by  thcmfeivcs. 
'InmarfiiaHing  of  the  which  1  flnll  ufe  no  method, 
but  that  which  himfclfe  hath  taught  me^  which  is  to 
rankethcm  as  I  findcthem,  and  as  they  ciofTe  nice  in 
my  way:  taking  them  page  by  page,  as  they  arc  pre- 
fentcd  to  my  view;  or  di(li  bydifh,  as  hec  hath  fee 
them  before  us.  If  you  finde  anything  of  the  f/u*^- 
littg  in  him,  or  that  his  Tf^pyov  do  not  prove  as  full 
of  ignorance  and  falflioodjus  his  ,V/oy  is:  1  fliould 
conceive  my  time  ill  fpent,  in  tracing  him  up  and 
clown  in  fo  wild  ^Lubori/tth*  Bc(ide3,w€  have  in  thefc 
extravagancies  or  v.igarits,  feme  fine  fmacksofP«- 
ritanijwe,  purpofely  iprinkled  here  and  thereto  lan- 
ftifie  and  fweeten  the  whole  performance  ^and  make 
it  ad  paltfum  to  the  Gentk -lleadsr>.\  Begin  then  my 
dear  brother  of  Ztyfcw,  and  let  us  fee  what prety  talcs 
you  have  to  tell  us,  for  entertainment  of  the  time,by 
way  of  Table-tall^:  for  juftifyingasyoudoe,  thc);/- 
/^offome  men,  atthe  holy  Sacrament,!  muC:  needs 
thinke  you  have  inviced  us  unto  a  Common^  not  an  holy 

Audi 


Sedh  3.  And  firft  to  pafle  away  the  time  till  your  meate 
comes  in ,  you  tell  us  two  or  three  ftorics, c  of  E»« 
elide  t  and  his  finding  out  of  the  Jacobs  fiaffcpf  /f relit* 
r/Wtf/and  his  •W,*,<t  3  when  being  in  a  brazen  Lava 
tory,  hee  had  found  the  Coronet  or  circumference  of 
thevefill  :  and  finally  of  chat  fadyoitth  tythagorts 
t!  \\ho  having  found  in  a  Diagram  an  e^Halitie  of 
form  lines  in  a  right  an&kd  triangle  ?  doroae  went  a 
ivhole  Oxe  to  the  Cods  3  for  the  Inspiration.  Thcfe  are 
hard  words  beleeve  me,  and  you  do  very  ill  toralke  in 
fuch  a  canting  Language,  and  that  to  poore  unlearned 
cpecp!?)  which  ^re  no  Geometricians  :  but  farre  worfe 
B/  «£-*  truft  niee3to  betray  your  ignorance  in  fo  fowle  a  man- 
ji.  ncr,  rxrchofcthat  can  deteft  youforamoft  confident 
ijtnaro,  to  trifle  thus  in  matters  which  you  undurftand 
nor.  Jc  is  a  good  rule  and  an  old,  in  mathemathhattp 
fcite  oportet)  ai/t  tacere.  But  you  that  never  cared  for 
any  rules,  will  not  care  for  this.  Incomparable ,  you 
3-  iav?  l  ivas  the  delight  ^Euclide,  when  h<:e  had  found 
larr  to  w.ifa  l>nt  a  Jacobs  ft  .iJJ'c.  1  pray  you,  good  Sir, 
who  told  you  \\utEttclidc  made  the  Jacobs  fiajje?  If  it 
was  Jacobs  ftaffe,as  you  fay  it  was  5  it  could  not  be  of 
Eu elides  making.  And  I  v/oujd  pray  you  ne>t  to  tell 
me.why  naming  it  a  Tacobs  jltffe  ^  you  put  Ju-rTix-).  in 
the  w^/«,Thinkyou  J\^\:d  fignifiesa  Jacobs Jl  a ffe? 
the  word  you  cite  from  Plutarch  where  indeed  ic is; 
but  a  judicious  and  learned  Mathematician  a  as  you 
fccm  to  be,  would  have  confidered  with  Xylanderjhtt. 
/r.Tr^uo,  5  is  'vox  nibili)  no  word  at  all5a  miftake  meerly 
ofthe/r40J?/7/>//.Theifyou  read  cAnTrlpix-xs^sthe  lear 
ned  doe,  it  might  be  certainly  a  work  containing  fome 
T  Theoremes  wrought  by  the^/W/</^/  or  A- 
!:  -tis  well  as  the  Jacobs  fajfi.  And  then  againe,  if 

EttcltJf 


fuch  ffcwfjff*/,  it  followes  not  that  Cap, 
therefore  hee  found  out  the  Isflnivtent.  Many  hnre 
told  us  of  the  ufe,  but  not  found  out  the  Authour  of 
it:  s  though  P.  Rtmnt  would  have  told  yon,  had 
you  asked  the  qucttion ,  that  it  was  called  Jjcobt 
ftaffe  j  Tattqmup  h  ftntfa  Patriarchs  iSo  oltm  invent  uf. 
However,  were  the  difficulties  more,  and  more  de 
bated  by  the  learned  in  thofc  noble  ftudies3  that's  all 
otic  to  you.  For  like  a  bold  Adventurer  5  you  clap 
ic  downe  a  Jacobs  ft^Jfe.,  in  the  Text ,  and  rai  <Ar/rr1i- 
jcx  in  the  margin:  and  then  deride  both  ic  and  them,as 
being  ll  but  &  tjrchc-peffnj  matter,  not  worth  the  (h) 
(peaking  of. 

From  Euctide.  on  to  Archimedes ,  who  wafliing  in 
a  brazen  Lavator/c,  rrycsout  hcc/W/0/W  it.  What 
had  hee  now  found?  t^r^su^f^joiuf  rw  TV  rtpct-% 
tilrwowy  fairh  your  ffwrgiv  rightly :  but  very  wrong 
ly  you  tranflate  it ,  and  tell  us  it  was  nothing  but  the 
Coronet  or  circitwfireitceofthe  vsffeU.  What  will  you 
give  mce  to  relate  the  ftory  ?  Will  you  afTiirc  .me  on 
your  word,  though  not  worth  the  taking  3  that  you 
will  never  meddle  with  the  MjtbinMticks  ,  without 
further  ftudie?  Well  then,  thus  ic  was.  lilero  King  ^  vitmv.  1  « 
of  Syracttfa ,  put  out  aCrownc  to  making,  of  pure  cap.j. 
gold :  and  the  Artificer ,  like  a  knave,  mixed  fpme  fil- 
verwith  it.  This  being  informed  of  5  Micro  would 
faine  know,  how  much  gold  hadbeenc  taken  out, 
and  how  much  filver  put  in  :  and  defired  Archiwedts 
to  invent  fome  way  for  the  difcoverie.  Hee,  at  a  ccr- 
taine  time  going  into  his  Bath ,  obfcrved  a  quantity 
of  the  water  to  over-flow  according  to  thcbignc/Ti 
of  his  bodiej  whereby  hee  prcfently  conceited  a  de 
vice  to  folvc  the  Kings  Vrobltme ,  and  crycs  out ,  f 


3. 


(  :)  11  h  mtn 

thutfhfhcc  biA 
found  a.  Coronet 


:  i.  e.  a  way  to  difcover  the  Artificers  theft 
by  the  proportion  of  the  water  over-  flowing^or  in  the 
words  of  your  owne  Authored  you  underftand  him, 
/utTwwv  T£?  s-epjtrtf  •)  a  way  of  meafuring  the  Kings 
Crowne.  which  hee  did  accordingly:  and  you,  if  you 
were  i  do  nuts  Jlnditor  might  bee  taught  to  doe  it  by 
the  common  rule  of  alligation.  I  fee  you  underftand 
the  Lingutge^  as  you  doe  the  Mathematicly:  and  to  be 
tray  your  ignorance  in  both  at  once,  muft  needs  inter-, 
pret  (WtTwiffw  TV  T«£ovy  the  Coronet  or  circumference 
of  the  vejjcil.  He  found  k  a  Coronet  of  gold,  when-  hee 
cried  out  tup^a.'  though  the  invention  was  not  worth 
a  Teftcr  as  you  tell  the  ftorie. 

But  the  fad  youth  Pythagoras  went  beyond  them  all. 
tunkecwuet  Didhcc  fo  indeed?  Andfo  doc  you  too  in  relating 
what  hee  invented.  It  is  your  martcr-peccc  of  JgKo- 
rancc  :,  not  fuch  another  to  bee  found  in  all  the  Coun- 
trey.  But  what  did  hee  ?  Marrie,  fay  you,  havixg  found 
in  a  Dhgramme  an  equalitte  of  fame  lines  in  a  right' 
angled  triangk^  downc  went  a  veho/e  Oxefor  the  infyira- 
tion.  What  (aid  you,  an  cqndlitic.  of  {owe  lines  .<?  How 
many  were  they  for  a  wager  ?  There  are  but  three  in 
oil:  a  triangle  can  have  no  more.  One  is  not  fome^ and 
all  the  lines  in  a  right-angled  triangle  cannot  bee  e- 
qiull ,  by  no  mcancs :  it  is  both  falfe  in  the  Art ,  and 
utterly  would  take  away  that  excellent  invention  of 
Pythagoras.  If  then  all  three  cannot  have  this  equa- 
litie,  nor  any  one  of  them  in  it  felfc;it  muft  bee  either 
two  or  none:  you  needed  not  have  kept  aloofe  with 
your  equaiitie  of  fome  lines.  And  to  fay  truth ,  it  is 
of  none/For  this  invention  of  tythagorrt 9  refpcfts 
not  any  equalitic  or  inequalitie  of  the  lines  ex  fides 
in  a  right-angled  triangle  \  but  it '  enquires  the  Ara/^i* 

or 


orchcxrtifntncc 
of  tie  I'fjiS, 

/MO. 


•*. 


or  power  of  thefe  lines :  and  it  demonftrates  the     Cap ,9, 
fquare  defcribed  upon  the  line  fubtendtng  the  right 
Angle  3  to  bee  ever  equall  to  the  fquares  of  both  the 
other  compounded.  Would  you  be  made  to  under- 
jftand  this  ?  then  let  us  take  a  triangle  vvhofe  fides  aro 
rational!,  and  explicable  by  numbers,  3. 4.  and  5.  \v  ill 
confticute  fuch  a  right  angled  triangle:  whereof  let 
3.8t  4.be  the  fides,  comprehending  the  right  angle, 
and  j.fubtend  ir.  The  fquare  of  ^.iszj.ancl  that  is 
cquail  to  the  fquares  of  3.8(4.  compounded.  But  ne 
ver  a  one  of  thefe  fides  is  equall  to  another,  and  why 
then  doe  youtalke  fo  ignorantly  of  the  eyulitjof 
fo  we  lines  iv  a  right  angled  triangle  ?  Now  did  you 
ci'herunderftanci  the  invention  it  fclfcior  clie  what 
admirable  ufc  is  made  thereof  in  all  the  practice  of 
Geometry  you  would  not  grutch  Pythagoras  an  Heat- 
tom':>e  $  a  poore  Oxc  was  no:hing:al^;hough  as  you  moil 
ignorantly  have  fee  it  downe ,  an'bxe  had  beene  too 
muchbyhalfe^  A  ^.///J?hadbeen£  enough  to  offer  for 
fucha£//#.  Not  fuch  a  P1  Pious  Bull  indeed,  as  you  0}0V- p;  IA;<- 
have  found  out  for  the  Doctor  j  but  a  prophane,  a  *' ' '    ' 
Gentile,  and  a  P</$./#  />////. 

Your  next  v<igarie  is ,  about  Epifcopall  jurifdiifti- 
on  j  which  we  have  met  withall  already,  as  ic  related 
unto  practice ,  and  the  point  then  in  hind  bctweene 
us :  but  wee  muffc  here  confcrrea  little, about  the  ///- 
flitution  of  it.  This  you  touch  very  gingerly  ^  and  fo, 
as  one  may  fee  3  you  have  a  good  mind  to  betray  the 
caufc*  The  reverend  Ordinaries ^  and  their  calling  AFC 
founded  (  as  you  "  fiy)  //p^Apoftolicall,  aurl  (for  ^«a,.^t 
all  the  ejfinti  alt  parts  thereof]  on  divine  righf.The  Re- 
"jtrend  Ordinaries  ?  And  why  not  rather,  I  befeech 
3*ou5  the  li&vtrend  Bifiops  ?  Is  the  word  Etjlwp  fo  tl if- 

V  taitefuH 


Sc<fl.?«      taftefull  to  your  holy  brechren ,  that  you  dare  not 
ufe  it  ?  Or  do  you  thinke,you  fhould  be  out  of  credit 
with  them ,  did  you  affirme  in  plaine  and  pofitivc 
termes ,  that  Bifhops  arc  of  Chrijls  inftitution,  and 
dt  jure  divino  ?•  It  feemes  you  doc  :  and  therefore 
in  your  <j^o  ncarranto ,  you  ground  their  calling  on 
/tpojlolicaff  and  upon  divine  right.  On  ApofiolicaU  in 
the  firft  place,  as  being  none  of  Chrift  our  Saviours 
Inftitution  3  but  onely  founded  by  the  Apoftlcs ,  in 
their  adminiftration  of  the  publicke  government. 
The  I  us  divinum  comes  after ,  /*//  fecnnJ/f^  but  up 
on  the  fccond :  and  that  in  fome  tflcntiatt  parts  there 
of,  but  you  know  not  what.  1  nope  there  are  not 
many  Miniflcrs  in  Ltofofofiire.of  this  opinion.  For 
Jet  the  Bifliops  ftand  alone  on  Apoftolicall  right  y  and 
no  more  than  Co,  and  doubt  not  but  fome  will  take 
it  on  your  word,  and  then  pleade  accordingly  5  that 
things  of  slpflftolicall  ittftitHtiony  may  he  laid  afide. 
Where  are  their  Ecclcfiafticall  °  wHdowcs  j  what 
(p/Afo*?' J*  ^rvice  doe  the  Detcons  P  at  the  Table  now;  how  ma- 
't  "iAft/  »o    nyarct^crct^ac  forbearc  1  from /V.W,  and  things 
'*  franglcJt  Therefore  away  with  Bifiops  too,  let  all 
goe  together.  And  this  I  take  it,  is  your  meaning , 
though  not  as  to  the  Applioatio,yet  as  to  the  ground 
of  the  Application.  I  am  the  apter  to  beleeve  it  3 
becaufe  when  Biflnop  Andreives  'Q  JUOLKCL-'TM  had  lear 
nedly  aflertcd  the  Epifcop  all  Order  to  be'  otCbrifts  In- 
fthution,  I  have  heard  that  fome  good  frcind  of  yours 
who  was  then  it*  place,  did  fecretly  intercede  with 
»  King  lames  to  have  had  it  alteredjfc  r  feare,  forfoorb, 

of  offending  our  neighbour  Churches.  This  fearc 
you  arc  pofleffed  with  alfo  :  and  therefore  waive  not 
only  the  name  of  Bifljopjbut  the  niaine  ground  workc 

and 


and  foundation  upon  which  they  (land :  Nay  by  this  Cap,  9? 
note  of  yours,  Archdeacons  hoJd  by  as  good  a 
claimeas  the  £//%>/  doc.  For  being  fucceflburs3  as 
you  fay  (r)rc>  the  primitive  Deacons,  who  were  or-  (rypag-Tj.' 
dained  by  the  Apo/iles,  and  Ordinaries  too  ,  they 
know  that  too  well:  what  lets,  but  that  they  meanc 
themfei^cs  for  thofe  Revtrend  Ordinaries,  which 
were  ordained  on  Jp0ftfftifaH9&nd(f0r  thefjjcntiatt 
parts  of  their  office)  on  divine  right  alfo.  Here  is 
T .  G .  and  /  C.  and  who  elfe  you  will}  new  England 
iathemidftofolJ.  Yet  all  this  while  you  are  moft 
orthodox  in  do&rine*  and  consonant  in  difciplinc  to  the 
Church  of  England. 

Having  thus  founded  the  Epifcopall  calling  on  A" 
poftolicalt  authorise,  your  next  vagarie  is  upon  the 
Doftor,  for  fetting  up  the  Vicar  above  his  Or  dinar  it. 
How  truly  this  is  faid,  wee  have  feene  alreadie.  And 
then  you  adde,  that  thcfe  judicious  Divines  that 
ftatnper  fo  much  in  dottrine  with  Santfa  cA/r^and  in  (fjpag.  71. 
difciplificviuh.San8a  Pttra,  will  in  the  end  prove 
prejudicial**  Divines  to  the  effates  ofBi/Iwps.  Here  is  a 
fincjiugh,  is  it  not^to  make  Tport  for  boy*?  who  can 
not  but  applaud  your  wit,  for  brinpnn:  S.intta  Clara, 
and  SattSa  Pttra,  in  a  firing  together.  For,  good  Sir, 
tell  me  in  a  word,  what  other  ufe  wasthere  ofSstttfa 
Po'/jv^but  that  you  love  to  play  and  dally  upon  words 
and  letters?  In  all  hisbooke^eing  in  all  ^.Chapters, 
what  pafiagc  can  you  finde  that  tends  umo  the  pre 
judice  of  Bilhops?  Or  howdorh  thcpoorc  Doctor, 
or  any  of  thcfe  whom  with  fo  high  a  fcorne  you  call 
Judicious  Divines,  compile  with  any  man  that  doth  ? 
Your  Santta  Clara^  and  San8a  Petra  make  a  pretry 
noife^but  it  is  onely  vox,  &  prtterca  uikil. 

Va  The 


Soft.  3.         The  Doctor thus faaked  up,you  goe  on againc un 
to  the  point  oflurifdffltffrt  5  in  which  you  fpcnd  two 
leaves  together^  but  not  one  word  unto  the  purpofc. 
(Or33-7*«       Yeu  teJl  us *  that  of  old ,  fome  Pric-fts  of  Germany 
were  reprehended  by  Repels  the  Great ,  bccaufc 
they  did  prcfimic  in  the  ebpxcc  of  their  Biftjgps,  Eri+ 
OOr^-TJ.    -cre  Altarta^  to  erect  Alt*'*:  then  ,  that  "afingle 
Pricft.  qua  t alts  9  hath  w  /;r;  given  him  by  God  or 
nian  ,  to  opett  the  doores  of  any  external!  Ittrifdi&ion9 
(*/rao-  7r-      t^iac  x  ro  nian  ^jould  prffitffje  to  Jifyoff  of  any  ihing 
bclov&fig  to  the  Church  without  the  Ttfjbop.  What 
ceeriei  this  adoe,  when  neither ,  as  you  know  your 
fclfej  the  Vicar  ever  did  intend  to  build  an  Altar: 
nor  is  it  as  you  fay  your  felfe  in  any  of  the  Bifhops 
powers  to  doe  it  if  they  were  fo  minded.  So  farrc 
arc  you  from  giving  way,  that  Jtijbopt  .>  of  their  orrne 
Cy)r'?-r7-     authority^  may  credt  an  Altar:  y  that  you  denic 
them  any  audiorlcic  of  their  ownc ,  to  tranfpofe  a 
Tall*.   Nor  doe  you  right 'y  (late  the  cafe ,  in  Pope 
Leo  neither.  The  bufhiefle  was  not ,  as  you  dream e, 
that  there  were  fome  Yriefls  inFrarxcoT  Germany  3 
that  encouraged  thereunto  by  the  cko-rcpifcopi 9  or 
Countrey  Sufiraga nf ,  did  prcfumc  in  the  abfcucc  of 
their  Bi(hops_,  Erigcre  Alt  aria  ^  to  ereft  Altars ,  No 
fuch  matter  verily.  The  thing  that  tee  was  offend 
ed  at,  was  that  fome  Bifhops  of  Frattcc  and  Germany ^ . 
did  ofccn-times  appoint  their  Chorepifcopi  (who 
'/.)Quijima    *  by  r'nc  cjnons  of  forr.c  Counccls  v;erc  no  more 
ii     T^an  PrJcfts)  or  fometimcs  others  which  were  fim* 
piy  Priefts3  to  fee  up  Altars  in  their  abfence;  and  to 


(>77) 

you  is  finltie  full  as  they,  to  raifc  a  fcancJall  both  on  Cap*  p. 
them,  and  the  poorc  V  icar ,  in  chinas  of  which  they 
were  not  guiltie.  So  that  this  needlcflcdifputarion 
might  have  beene  laid  by ,  but  that  it  is  ycur  fufl-.ion 
to  wheele  about,  that  being  coren  on  rhc  rijhc  fide, 
you  may  fhew  your  learning.For  having  ftort  (CMC  in 
from  To  many  h.mds,you  think  it  would  be  taken  for  a 
greit  difcourtefie,  if  you  would  not  fj-end  ir. 

Your  next  vagarie  is  about  fit  mis  of  Pr.ijtnat 
which  you  have  an  cvillroorh,  that  bites  cJofe,  but 
deepe.  The  55.  (.anon  hath  prefcribed  a  forme  of 
prayer,  befc  re  the  Sermon,  accordirgtothe  foime 
tf  bidding  of yr&yerS)  prcfcribed  and  praftiledin  the 
reignes  of  King  Henry  the  eighth,  King  *E&vrard  the  (?> Ste  lttf  **- 
fixth,  and  Queene  Elfabetb.  This  you  turnc  off  with  SJJJJJB? 
abacke  blow,  as  if  you  ftrooke-  at  fomcwhat  elfe:  atj  Lattmtri 
and  in  a  word  or  two  give  a  fairc  Item  to  your  bre-  stmonta  the 
thren,  to  life  what  formes  of  prayer  they  Jill,  with  a  t*"Vk"' 
tion-obfttjnte,  ItfftMfj  ly  you(hy  yon  unto  the  Do- 
ftor)  Tlut  ire  a  -t  bound onely  topr<ijfcut  not  toQeaks 
the  rfords  of  the  Canons '..i.e.  (for  fo  miift  be  your  mea 
ning)  as  little  bound  to  the  one  as  unto  the  other. No 
man  conceive*  that  hce  is  bound  to  ufe  in  other 
thinesno  other  words  than  the  Canons  ufe,  becaufe 

O  J 

there  is  no  Canon  that  requires  it  of  hini :  and  by 
your  rule  we  are  noc  found  unto  the  rormes  of  praier 
in  theCVww  mentioned,  although  the  Canons  dot  re- 
quire  ir.  Now  as  you  Ming  afide  the  Canon ,  and 
leave  your  Clergie-frienas  a  liberty  to  pray  rrhat  they 
lift:  Coin  another  place,  you  caft  afide  the  Churches 
cuftomes,  and  give  a  liberty  unto  your  Ltybrtthren 
to  pray  how  they  lilt.  It  is  an  Ancient  cufiome  in 
the  Church  of  Entfjnd,  th  \t  in  the  times  of  prayer 
V3  'in 


(*?*) 

Sedt.  2.  m  r^ie  Con?regation?wee  turne  our  faces  to  the  Eaft. 
1  his  many  of  your  friends  diflike,  and  it  is  reckoned 

<V  i*'  is^te    t'V  "•  #•  b  amongft  ihofc  Innovat ions,  which  hec 

SCWC/J./M:?,  doth  cnarge  upon  the  Prclafes  ;  as  if  it  were  (  for. 
footh)  a  lying  of  God  to  a  fixed  place.  It  feemsyou 
were  agreed  togcrher,  hceto  invent  the  charge.and 
you  to  furnifli  him  with  Arguments,  to  confirme  the 
fame.  This  makes  you  farre  more  like  thrjfypttfi 

£/TMv,ra  t])an  Before  yOU  V;erc:  of  whom  c  Latrtiut  doth 
infcrme  us,  that  v/hofoever  it  was  that  found  out 
the  DogtMata^v^t  Ci-srvtflii^iis  ct^rovkvpi^c^hehad an 
excellent  Art  ot  finding  proofcs  to  make  it  good. 
Now  to  make  good  this  charge  of  your  friend  H.B. 

ftp  **)•  you  tell  us  •'  that  it  is  a  faganijl)  thing  iowal?  God 
mote  propitious  in  any  one  cornrr  of  the  world  thttt 
beets  in  an  other.  For  this  you  crethcfe  words  of 
Mivtttius  Felix  j  vi/.  Deo  citn&a  f/bittt  fttvt,  Vbi- 
quenon  tantnt»  ni,bis  proximns  5  fid  ittfufus  ifl.  But 
pentleSir,  thofe  words  are  fpokcnin  the  Author, 
not  in  relation  unto  the  placing  of  the  Altarsjx  ro 
the.  peoples  turning  of  themfelves  in  the  AttrfPrtj. 
er  :  but  to  the  point  of  having  Tempi-*,  /'.  e.  fuch 
Temples  as  were  then  in  ufe  amougft  the  Gtntiltsfat 
the  immediate  and  local IhabitationR  ofthcirGod. 
Which  being  as  hec  lahh  ,  unneceflarie  in  regard 
that  God  was  every  where,  and  filled  all  things 
\vich  his  pretence ;  was  a  good  anfwer  to  the  Ar 
gument  that  cer/7/Vr  ufed:  but  very  ill  brought  in 
by  you,  upon  no  occafion,  Onely  you  plea fe  to 
intimitc  unto  your  dependants  (  who  underftand 
your  meaning  arhalfe  a  word)  that  as  they  rmypray 
what  thy  rcill,  for  all  the  Canon  \  and  how  the}  nv/7, 
fur  all  the  c  xftomc^fo  they  may  pray  alfowhcx  and 

Tfhsre 


they  will,  for  all  our  Churches,  Excellent  Do-    Cap.  8  . 
Qrine,  credit  mec,not  a  Nevn.EtrgUft&r  ot  them  all, 
could  have  done  it  better. 

From  your  unnecefiaric  difccurfc  about  the  jurif- 
di&ion  of  Bifhops,  and  thefe  kac(  hlows  on  the  by, 
wee  muft  next  follow  you  unto  a  more  unneceffary, 
about  the  Office  of  Archdeacons  5  which  they  thac 
perhaps  fenc  you  in  your  notes,  defired  to  have 
excrcamely  hcightncd  j  but  all  the  proofes  they  . 
bring  to  exalt  the  fame,  tend  to  the  diminution  of  it, 
Now  for  the  Hading  out  of  that  authoritie,which  you 
afcribe  to  the  Archdeacons  5  or  rather  they  unto 
themfelves,  you  goe  as  hi^h  as  the  firft  Dearons  c 
(  whofe  ancient  paw,  you  fuy,is  now  unit<  4  an  J  con* 
centnAm  thatof  theirs  ^)  and  rel  us  many  thingsth.it 
before  we  knew  not.  Firft,take  it  as  we  will,thac  the 
c:  z'^ry  Altar  itfclfe  with  the  Rj'tle  about  irji  »th  beene 
c<  termed  in  ancient  Councels,  the  D>  iconic^  as  a 
"  place  belonging  (  nexc  after  the  Kiflwp)  to  rhe  care 
<c  and  cuftodic  of  the  Dw^*only.  Secondly,  that  it  is 
c;affirmed  by  an  ancient  Coitncell^  thic  die  Pritft  can 
"boaft  of  nothing  that  he  harh  in  general  I,  but  his 
<(bare  name3not  able  to  execute  his  veryOffice,wrh- 
<cout  the  autorttj^indmmi{itry  ofthc  Deacon.Third- 
ecly,that  in  a  Precedent  of  this  very  particul.ir,  it  was 
tc  the  Deacons  office,  port  are  ,  to  move  an'l  rcmov-i  the 
<c  A/fjr^nd  all  the  impletnentD  belonging  thereunto, 
<c  as  faith  Saint  At'ftin.  And  thereupon  you  draw 
tc  this  inference  3  that  from  thefe  fir  ft  Deacon*  to  our 
"  prefect  Archdeacons^  Incumbents  have  becne  cxclu- 
c"  ded  from  medling  \virhchev/M.^//of  the  Church, 
<c  or  Ornaments  of  the  \^4ltar  :  and  for  rhe  pmofe 
*'  hereof,  you  tell  us  iu  the  Mtrgia  out 

V  4 


Sedl  3  thttthey(fhe  Arch  beacon?)  hive  ia  charge  omul* 
orvamwta  &  utenfitia  EcclefiarHra.  T  his  is  a  com* 
pound  difh  ,and  wasparh.ips  ferved  in  for  an  ol/a  po» 
4ri  //*,or  the  Grand  Sa'kt  of  the  Feaft  :  and  therefore 
true  we  may  the  better  judge  of  thciagredieotSj  wee 
will  taile  them  severally. 

And  finl  you  fay  ,  the  very  Alrar  it  felfe  with  the 
raile  about  it,in  ancientCounce's  ruth  becne  termed 
the  Di  iconic.  This  is  the  firll:  Caper  in  yourSaltet.  and 
it  tartes  very  high  in  'ced^as  hi.sjh  as  thcCouncell  of 
Laodhta  ,   which  was  before  the  famoub  Synod  of 
f  ' 


Nowin  thisf  Councell  it  is  ordered 

^i)px»  *7  Ta    «^»etx,5vix,;y  fy  airn,i<jjcq 

c/W^o-nx.av  cxiuwy'-  chat  no  ir'ferionr  Mi'niltei  (hould 

have  place  in  the  DIJCOKJ^  and  touch  the  holy  vefTe  Js, 

*  e<  r-i  A.  or  r^e  ^°fy  *tin'Ms*  Thi*  Canon^  afterwards  was  8  in- 

p  -t  d>r.  Can.  corporattd  into  thoft  made  in  a  Councel  held  at  J 


//;</or  Jgdtjn  GaulN<irl>offV(yJ(,an.$c6  in  this  forme 
that  followeth,  ?>/&.  Quottiaw  not*  opart  et  infarrjtof 
viiniftros  licenthw  kakereinfecretariitm  (qttodGrfci 
diaconion  appellant  )fagrtdi  &  contingere  vafa  Demi- 
#ic4.  '\ow  in  all  this  you  are  miftaken  very  fouly  :no 
man  evermore.  For  neither  was  rhe  Diaconion^  the 
p.Uce  between  the  wall  &  rail.  where  the  4//</r  flood: 
r.or  do  rhcfeC<^^'rive  the  Dcaconz\\y  dignity  aKovc 
the  Prints  as  you  intend  it.  The  D/aconiov,or  Viaco^ 
/;/ro/*Castheo!dtr.iTiflati  n  in  B/»/V/  reads  it)  or  the 
Du<-6tf/V.as  you  call  it  dorh  fi^r  ih<i  rhe  yeftrff^  &  not 
the  Altjrpljcr:-!  roome  appointed  for  rhe  keeping  of 
the  facred  ttten{tlsj\w  for  the  n^iniftraMon  of  the  holy 
S*crav;entJ.PinA  ic  was  called  .V//ov/Vwalfo,asbfing 
the  repofitory  of  th^  kaUortt'i  Ornaments  :  frr-m 
whence  wee  luve  the  name  tjiSacnji^  to  whom  rhe 

keeping 


keeping  of  the  fame  was  in  fine  committed.  Thatli-  Cap.    o, 
ving  masazin  of  Le.jrnbg.Sir  Henry Spdman^ h  could  «h)mO!oflX 
have  told  you  this^  Diatonion  &  Diaconict/mjocua  itt  10iJ- 
circuit H  Ecdffa  conjervjnJis  vafu  Domini  cis ;  &  or- 
njmcntisEccl.Jif  d»:putatusyilix  Secret  ariiimjlixSa- 
crjnitm  :  and  this  he  faith  \\  ith  reverence  to  rhis  very 
Councel  ^LaoJhea^  which  you  build  apon.    Then 
there's  Tofepbttf  J'ire  CowtSyVihom  you  have  magnified 
to  our  h  md  for  the  '  wojl  learned  in  our  a^e  of  all  that  COPS lj'* 
/jje;^  d'-alt  jr///j  K/'/r;  a»JCtrcmoniejjN\*\Q  affirmcs  the 
fime.For  fpeakin^of  the  Counctll  ofd^atha  or  /?£- 
^(p,tlic  fecond  of  the  tworo  which  you  rcfcrrc  us,k  he  fy 
do- h  refolve  of  o><rf/<.V7'///#y,vhich  is  there  faid  to  be  apparatu. 
called  Dfaco*:ori  by  cheGivr/M/^rh  it  i:  is  the  Vcfirit:  c<4* 
Secret  trittm  i  e  Joe  urn  fjcr  h  afleraandis  prsJiitutHw.zs 
he  there  inform es  us.  Ncr  can  ic  but  feem  ftrange  to 
any  m  m  that  harh  his  wits  about  him  as  hee  ought  to 
havc.thatrhc  Altar  with  die  railc about  it,  or  the  Al 
tar  ptsrc,  fliouldbecnt'r.u'cd  t\\c  Diaronic ;  uherein 
the  Dtacct;s\\iA  fo  lictle,!f  at  all  any  thing  to  do.  But 
v  ere  h  fo  as  you  would  have  it,  yet  were  this  litle  to 
the  honour  of  die  ArchJtacons  ofrice  as  now  it  ftaruls; 
and  very  much  unrothe  Prieftj.  All  thac  is  given  the 
cDi aeons  here,isbutatruft  commuted  to  them  alovc 
thofc  other  Minifters  \vhii  h  were  ivjacrarifas  the  la 
ter  of  your  ccuncelscalsthcm)not  yet  adn:i:tcd  ur;ro 
any  of  the  holv  OrderSjOrtothem  only  of  the  low- 
eft  or  irtferiour  forc.\\  hLh  arc  not  properly  to  be  cal 
led  Orders, ,bur  rather prep.iratlous  'othen-.The  v.  ufli- 
ingo*  thepUte,  and  laying  up  rnc  Grre/J  ttt-nfi'.^  in 
their  proper  place?,was  rot  conVived  to  Iva  ri'tiup 
fervi:c  foi  fo  hi^h  a  dig:ihie  as  the  holy  rrit.Jil.ood:vcid 

therefore 


ttcrcforc  was  put  cffto  thtnu 
fpiritttdr* ,  in  feme  c'erree  or  way  unto  it  3  were 
c hough r  m oft  fit,  to  undertaker.  So  chat  this  charge 
was  plaincly  caft  upon  the  r£V<ttw,rather  to  cafe  the 
Prtff^nd  for  the  honour  of  his  calling  •,  than  to  give 
any  place  or  privilcdge  unto  rhe  ^wr<j//,(v;ho}asyou 
might  have  fcen  in  the  l  Car.on  next  before,  was  noc 

C)  in  «V il  to  f}r  down  in  the  pretence  of  the  Prieft  without  fpe- 
cjaji  jcavc)  to  perk  before  him.  And  you  have  done 
y°ar  Bifliop  but  a  forry  pccce  of  fervicc  in  giving 
^lim  "'a  pare  of  To  meanca  charge,which  was  concei- 

{mtNtxijicr  v^d  to  be  unworthy  ofa  common  Prieft.  Pol  me  0(d. 

t'  t  Biibcp,        Jjjfu  amtctyNenfit  raji/s^  ait, 

Now  as  in  that  that  went  before _,you  have  betray 
ed  your  i.^norancc5  and  too  great  want  of  ligowL'Jgc 
m  Ant  i  quit  it;  fo  in  the  next  which  now  fuccecdes, 
you  have  betrayed  a  greater  want,  which  is  want  of 
koxcftie.  You  tell  us  that  the  Trie  ft  can  botf  of  not  king 
that  bee  hjthiitgewtUJbut  Ins  bare  name  ^  and  that  he 
is  not  alle  to  execute  hit  'very  ojfw,  without  the  atttho- 
rityanjwiniflerjofthe  DwrwAVirhout  the  author itj 
of  the  T^</r<?/;/ch^t  were  brave  indeedrfit  tobc  (aid  by 
rone  but  fuch  a  Minijitr  as  you  .,  who  care  not  what 

(n>  A  l  Tar.  y  ou  fay  5fo  y  ou  m  ay  b  c  h  ea  rd .  T  h  e  pra  &  i  fe  i  n n  Igna  ti- 
w  timc,was Si/»aix.ovoi  Worocojc-vlttt  T<uwp  'SoWpa^lwe 
'De  COKS  fliould  becfubjcft  unro  the  J'/ i<Jlj : Lut  fee 
how  ftrangely  things  were  turned  in  a  Merle  time;thc 
Trjeft:  are  now  brought  under. Sc  forced  toyeeldnnro 
the  Deacotts.Gcod  Sir,where  may  one  rcade  of  fuch 
a  Law?Not  in  the  Councell  of  .1qnif^raKe^T  Ak<n\ 
am  furc  ofthat,thounh  thithc  r  you  rckrre  us  in  your 
marginal  1  note. In  all  that  Canon  which  ycu  circ.rhe 


as  a  place  of0;/*//fcrfr,S;not  of  Cap.  9. 
dignity.  Ipfi trim  (**) clan voct  fa m«dum  Vrfconii  ad-  (vc:onc;i. 
montnt  citNtfos.  The  Deacons,  a?  their  Office  isthere  Aq'Jfc™- 
described,  ^o  like  fo many  crycrs  call  upon  rlie  people  ncn"  an'7' 
to  pray.toknceljto  fing,:o  be  intent  unto  the  Lcfibns : 
they  call  upon  them  alfo,  toletthcireareshcopr;nto 
the  Lord  their  God,  and  are  defigned  to  read  the  Co- 
fpel.  1  hen  foj!owes  that  which  is  prefcnted  in  your 
margin, y/)/?  ipfis  focerdot  nowtt  h<i';et,  ofjicium  non 
kib--tf\\tt.  without  them  the  Pricft  may  have  &xaw;, 
but  not  an  offit  e :  that  is,their  tahtiflerj,  and  attendance 
wasfoneceiTu-y,  that  without  them  the  P>v>/?  could 
rot  do  hb  duty. Say  then  according  to  the  CV*0//.that 
the  Prrtft  was  notaMeto  cxecure  his  very  Office  with 
out  the  mfatflerjofihc  Deacon :ar»d you  fay  very  well, 
none  will  taxc  you  for  itiThis  f oyfting  in  of  their  ////• 
^/•///,was  a  trick  of  your?,  one  of  thofe  many  tricks 
you  have  playd  fo  often.  And  you  may  now  conclude 
as  well,  that  in  feme  greater  Churches,  here  inEug- 
fatl^  t\}cPr/eft  is  utterly  unable  ro  execute  his  very 
office  without  the  autoritie  of  his  Clerl^  or  Curate  fie- 
caufe  he  cannot  doe  ic  fo  conveniently,  without  their 
miniftfrie;:zs  that  thc-Priefts  in  rhofe  daicswere  an  em- 
prie  name,  and  could  not  ftir  a  foo  in  the  difchargc  of 
their  imploymenfs,without/»///<w//7  rom  the  Dejioa. 
That  which  you  bring  us  from  .^aint  n^/////X  makes 
the  matter  plainer,plaincr  I  mean  as  to  the  Priejf ;  and 
fcts  -he  Deacoffin  his  owne  place,  a  faire  deale  below 
him.  It  was  the  Deacons  office  (as  you(p)informeus 
from  Saint  kugHfineJ  portare>  to  move  and  remove 
the  A/' Randall  the  implements  therunto  belonging. 
What  then?  Therefore  the  fricjts  were  not  to  meddle 
wiih  the  hltar^  either  to  wove  it  A  or  rcmowit :  that 

appertained 


Sc»     ,     3ppertaU.cdnnro.hc  r«w».  B*  t°od  Sir,  let  nee 
>-  oucftlon>DidtbisremovlnpoftheArtrfrb 


rot  look 


.Y 
it.You 


or 
n 


therefore  looke  upon  your 


«  ofthe  r*t«*&,  and  of  the  vcffds  ofthe  fame,  anJ 

' 


» rhev  were  to  carric  or 
<:  Ac  Forotncrwuc$iattuu«e,tneyvrcici 


you  now  ?  is  the  removing  of  the  hltar  fo  high  a  dig-  Cap.  9. 
nity3as  you  would  make  the  worJd  belicveMf  yca^how 
much  more  excellent  were  the  P//<r/7/,to  whom  thcfc 
mighty  men  did  fervice ;  and  brought  them  v/arcr  for 
their  hands  ?  If  no,  why  doe  you  deale  fo  fhamefully 
wi:h  the  Ancient  Writers,  in  makinejthem  the  infrru- 
ments  to  abnfe  ycur  Readers  ?  But  this  is  fo  inveterate 
in  you,itwill  never  out. 

Now  for  the  inference  and  application ,  which  you 
mike  of  this :  it  is  in  bricfc  5  that  whstfoever  power 
was  anciently  in  thcfe  firft  Deacons^  it's,  now  incorpo 
rated  into  the  place  and  office  of  the  Archdeacons .  Af- 
furedly  the  hrchdeacovs  are  beholding  to  you  for 
bringingthcm  fo  faire a  Pedigree  jx\d  vefting  them  with 
fo  great  mattcrs,as<wr;/*g  Altars,  ivtifiing  platc3  nnd 
bringing  rratcr  for  the  Tricjh.  There's  not  an  !\rch- 
dencon  in  the  Kingdomc.,but  is  bound  to  pray  for  you  5 
or  to  pray  to  you  rather  to  hold  your  peace,  and  no: 
to  meddle  with  thcfe  things  which  tidier  you  con-  • 
ccive  not  truly5or  report  moft  falfly. And  though  you 
wouldbee  thought  to  make  them  fome amends  r  by 
telling  us  from  ZfWnvW,that  they  have  in  charge  ottt- 
nia  ornimtntj&  utwplinEcclefi4rnmji\\t\\s  ornaments 
andurenfilstothc  Cluirch  pertaining:  yet  will^this 
hardly  make  them  whole  of  the  blows  you  gave  them, 
nor  will  it  reach  neither  to  entitle  them  to  any  power 
of  moving  or  removing  the  holy  Table  ^  and  yet  you 
falfifie  your  Authomyn  that  little  alfo.Your  Authuui 
faith  not,  that  the  Archdeacons  fliall  have  in  charge, 
omnia  ornament  a  &  Htenfilia  Ecclefurnm  ^  that  were 
too  great  a  burden  for  them:  and  if  they  had  them  in 
their  charge,  thcy'mnft  bee  anfwerablc  for  them,  if 
they  fhouid  bee  loft.  Bcfidca,  I  truft  yon  would  noc 

have 


^  * 

have  the  Pritffo  much  obnoxious  to  the  power  and 
pleafure  of  his  Archdeacon  ;that  if  there  be  two  Carpets 
for  the  holy  Table,  hee  may  not  lay  on  which  hee  will, 
without  asking  leave.  All  that  yourfAuthour  faith 
is  this,  that  the  Archdeaco»  fliall  caufc  a  note  to  bee 
«!:ij.  made  ofall  the  ornaments  and  Htcnfils  in  the  Churches 

of  and  under  their  jtfr//2//#/0#j  as  alfo  of  the  bookc  and 
veftments:which  he  Hull  every  yccrc  command  to  be 
exhibited,  that  hee  nuy  fee  in  what  cftare  things  are, 
whether  worfe  or  better.  Your  Author  faith  no  more 
than  this;and  this  is  very  fmall  amends  for  the  difgrace 
you  did  theni/m your  former  follies. 

Nor  doth  this  reach  neither  to  entitle  them  to  any 
power  of  moving  or  removing  t  he  holy  Table,  which 
was  the  thing  by  you  moft  aimed  at.  The  Coafttttfion 
fpcaks  of  ornaments  and  utenfilssof  BooksandVcft- 
mcnts.To  which  ofall  thcfe  fourcthinke  yon,can  you 
reduce  the  Altar, or  the  holy  Table?  No  doubt  but  you 
will  reckon  it  amongft  the  utenjils  of  the  Church  may 
(  fuch  is  your  gro(Te  ignorance)you  think  it  would  be 
come  the  place  exceeding  fitly.  NO  word  more  free- 
quent  in  your  book,than  that  of  ;//cxr/?/,by  which  you 
mean  the  holy  Table.  And  if  it  were  not  par/peris  nu 
meraire  pec  us,  1  could  aseafily  fet  downe  how  many 
CO  Tor  in  frit  times  that  word  is  ufcd  in  your  learned  labours  $ 'as 
/for*  diftourfty  you  have  found  how  often  that  of  Altar  is  in  the  L>e* 
this  ward  Altar  termination  that  you  wot  of,  His  Alttir  was  more  pro- 

itt'-unditd  out  ri         j-ii        r    i  •          r 

loiJtwaii  per  than  your  //^«///,  and  mignc  bcufed  ten  times  for 
riwi.&c.p.ifi  once,withoutany  abfurditieiwhereas  it  had  been  chil- 
difli  and  abfurd  in  yon3to  ufe  ycurutexjih  once  onely 
in  that  fenfc  8c  meaning.  By  ntcnjils  your  Autor  means 
not,  the  holy  Table,  or  the  holy  Alt ar^&e  which  word 
you  vvill3(nor  never  did  man  ufe  it  fo  but  your  doughty 

felfe:) 


(.87) 

fe]fe:)but  for  the  VefiiPttens,  Chattces^nA  the  rt  i>,    Cap.  9 

whic  h  arc  pertaining  to  the  fame.  And  fo  you  finde  it 

in  "the  Glo{Tc,if  you  pleafe  to  Jooke.  Perhiec  uten-    Opcionr.  in- 

filta  inlelligHntHr  vaja  Ecclefa  qM£ci(n^e9farrata  vc/  offi 

*ttortfacrata.  Next  time  you  wrire,or  print,  lot  me  be- 

fcecn  you  to  leave  out  this  word^as  being  worn  rhred- 

bare  by  your  much  ufing^and  ufe  thofe  termes  which 

cither  are  commended  to  you  by  the  canon  (your 

ownrule,ifyoucan  remember  )  or  generally  were 

received  by  the  ancient  Writers. 

But  go  we  after  you,  in  your  vagaries.  As  you 
have  brought  the  Pritft  to  be  inferior  to  the  Dcjcon  : 
foyou  will  do  your  beft,  to  bring  him  under  the 
Churchwarden*  God  help  poore  rriefts  that  mud  be 
under  fo  many  Mafters^  (  hurckvejrdcns^Daicons^  and 
who  elfe  foevcr  you  fliall  pleafe  to  let  above  them. 
But  this,  you  fay,  is  ro  new  matter:"  Chnrckivar*  WP-8r>< 
Jens  having  beene  of  old,  the  Bifiops  hand  to  put  all 
mandates  in  execution^  that  may  concern?  the  ucenfils 
of  the  c^;//r/).Forproofe  of '•his-.your  Margin  tels  us, 
Oeconomus  \eft\cvires  Ecc'cfafUca  gitbcrnandaman- 
datitr  ab  Eptfcopo:i\\tt.  the  Churchwarden  is  an  officer 
to  whom  the  government  of  Ecclefufticall  mat- 
tcrs  is  committed  by  the  Eifiep.  A  very  honorable 
office.  You  could  not  have  beftowed  a  greater  pow 
er,  upon  the  C/j_-#<^#0//rhimfelfe.  And  the  Cbitrh- 
war&ns  are  to  thanke  you7  that  to  advance  their 
place  and  credit,  fticke  not  to  falfifieyour  slittbors, 
and  to  ftraine  your  confcience  :  and  that  too  in  fo 
foul  a  manner,that  in  my  life  I  never  knew  an  equall 
impudence.  There's  no  fuch  thing  in  y  Lindnooh  (y  L  b.  j. 
whom  you  have  cited  for  your  Author.  That  ad-  Clonus  n 
is  yours_  not  his,  and  by  you  foy-  rcfldcn^ 

ftcd 


Scdt  ^t     ^ec*  *n  °^  PurP°k* to  ma^c  "P  *kc  raactcr.  Then  the 
Qtconomus  there  mentioned,  is  no  Church-warden, 
but  either  a  Farmour  or  a  BaylifFe :  and  laft  of  all,  the 
Re s  Ecclefapica  which  is  therein  mentioned^hath  no 
relation  unto  the  utevjilsof  the  Church^but  meerely 
to  the  Tithes  and  profits,  I  muft  lay  downc  the  cafe 
ac  large ,  the  better  to  deteft  your  moft  fliamelefTe 
dealing* -The  conftitutha  is  asfolloweth.  Firft  for 
the  title  ,  R-tfores  non  rtfiJcntes  nee  ricarios  habett- 
tesf.r  TCcofiotffOsfoofs  "Parochianis  fox fitlvtniant,  & 
fr&ticiintibitihofcitdlitfitwi  cxhibeaat:  That  Parfons 
n  ot  being  refidentj  nor  having  any  Vicars  upon  their 
Cures,  ihall  by  their  Occonom^  they  as  they  prove) 
releevc  the  poorc5and  atfoord  entertainment  to  fuch 
as  prejch  there.  The  body  of  the  Canon^  is  the  fame 
in  lubftancc,  though  more  full  in  words,  statwmtu 
nt  Rctfercs  qui  in  Ecckjiif  ttonfaciitnt  teftdenliam  cor- 
yortlem^  titc  habcant  Vicarios.per  Tcouomos  (itos  hofpi* 
tali  tat  is  gratiam  exhibeavt,  &c.  Now  that  we  may 
the  better  kuowj  what  is  the  meaning  of  the  word 
cecoNomtM^  we  are  thus  inftrufted  in  the  GlofTe^TYfl- 
nomm  diciturf  Hires  Ecclefaftica  MaaJatur.\Vhtt  ab 
Epifcopo?  No  fach  matter,  no:  one  word  of  that. 
Thats  an  old  tricke  of  yours,  and  moft  truly  your?, 
of  all  the  men  I  ever  dealt  with.  How  then?whyby 
the  IXcctor.oncly  ?  Ishcc  not  called  both  in  the  title 
and  the  rJbtxx$ecoiun»uj  fuus\\\s  owne  Otconomus e 
fo  alfo  in  the  Gloife.  Dicitnr  Qtconomus  nonfohm  in 
rcbusEpifcopiJedalio mm  Ckricorum.  And  what  to 
do?  Either  totarme  their  profits  of  them5or  to  col- 
left  and  manage  their  profits,for  them.  Vt  nomim  ip- 
foritw  cleric  or  inn  fr  net  its  Erclefa  ptrcipiant  aJfirMJM, 
&Jic  bofia  Ecclcjijjiica  adminiftrcnt$>Q  that  you  have 

at 


at  once  irapofcd  foure  falmoods  on  your  Readers.  Cap. 
For  firft,  heres  no  Chnrchrparden^ut  a  Bayliffe ,  or  a 
Farmour;  nor  he  appointed  by  the  Bifiop^but  by  the 
Parfoni  and  being  appoynced  medieth  not  in  any 
thing  which  doth  concerne  the  rttcnfils  of  the 
Church,butthe;>>vjyf/jofthe  Parfonage  :  nor  finally 
is  here  any  word  of  executing  manjjtejjout  onely  of 
maintaininghoftitalitie, \h\\\z  be  all  you  have  to  fay, 
I  hope  the  Pricfl  may  hold  his  owne  5  without  being 
over-awed  by  the  Chttrchwardefts  of  the  Parifli  j  how 
great  foever  you  would  make  them. 

O  but  this  isnotall/ay  you,  for  the  Churchward™ 

is  an  Ancient  Gentleman  ,  come  of  a  great  pigge- 

houfe,and  cofen  Gtrman  to  theBifhop,  at  moftonce 

removed.    For  'c  you  a  conceive  our  Latine  Canons  (a;p.8oJ 

cc  now  inforcejoy  calling  him  Oecono?nus^  mali£  him  re- 

l(  late  unto  that  ancknt  Ecclejtaflhall 'Officer  jfamous  in 

'*  the  Greefy  and  Latine  Councels  :  next,  that  of  old, 

"hee  was  as  now,  a  Liy-man  ,  fome  domefticke  or 

w  kfnfman of  the  Bifhops,  that  managed  all  things 

"belonging  to  the  Church  according  to  the  dire- 

ftion  of  the  Bifhop :  (till  you  are  our,quite  out  in  e- 

very  thing  you  fay.  The  Lathe  c<m>/?/ are  not  now 

in  force.)  as  to  thephrafe  and  Latine  of  them.   For 

they  were  paflcH  in  Ettgfijhjxi  the  Convocation  and 

confirmed  in  Entftib  by  King  LtMfs  :  the  iMlnt 

tranflationof  them  is  ofnoamhoriue,ofno/W*  ac 

all.  And  if  you  will  needs  borrow  arguments  from 

an  Hentidc  of  names,you  fhould  have  firft  confuJt- 

edthe  ^&^//£<*n?ytr,f,who  would  have  toldyoUjthac 

Gardiavus  Ecclefa,  is  a  more  proper  appellarion  of 

and  for  the  Churchwarden^  than  ycur  OiWMm/is.Nor 

doc  the  Authors  whom  you  cite,  iaformc  you  that 

X  the 


(if  o) 

the  old  QtconotKHt  was  at  firft  a  Lty»mtn^  a  friend  or 
klnfwjn  of  the  Biflieps  5  but  a  Church- man  mcerely. 
CM*  ce/Cj1*'  b  ZonjrtK  unto  *'hcm  you  fend  us,tclsus  plabcly, 
><y.  tha:  at  the  firft  the  Bifhop  had  the  abfolute  and  fole 

(]ifpofini>  of  the  rcvecewcs  of  the  Church :  ^  Ttvo$  IS 
vymj  ii/naiv  >  no  man,  nor  friend ,  nor  kinlrran,  nor 
domtftickc,  for  ought  there  appeares,bc.ng  pi.v.e 
to  it:  which  when  it  brough:  fo;nc  fcandall  and  com 
plaint  upon  :  he  Bifhop:  it  was  ordained  in  the  Cour.- 
cell  of  c hlic.'Iort)  Caa.  26.  that  the  fupreme  admi- 
niftration  of  the  Churches  treafurie  fliould  ftillre- 
maine  in  him,  as  before  it  ?/as5but  that  he  (hculd  ap^ 
point  fome  o;^e  or  other  to  be  of  counfell ,  \vioh  him 
in  his  afrions.   And  fiom  whatrankeof  men  (hould 
they  take  that  choice  I   Not  (faith  your  Author) 
from  their  domefticks,  or  their  kinfmen,  «A\'  otrS 
xA^V  -nT$  fc7rt(7X.o7r^3but  from  the  Clcrg/eof  the  Dio- 
ccfle.F'indeyou  in  this,  that  anciently  thefe  Occono- 
tni  were  Lawmen ',  of  the  Bifliops kindred  ?  I  thought 
you  had  beene  better  at  a  petigree,  than  I  fee  you  arc. 
tf  rfee/i     O'herwife  you  would  ne  vcr  have  derived  our  pre- 
fc^  c  lurch-Harden*  from  thofe  old Qecenomi^ c  thofe 
Cl<rgie-»K»  ClmrdvarJem ,  as  you  pleafe  to  call 
them :  of  which  if  there  bee  any  thing  remaining  in 
i.        t^c  Church  ofEngla.tJjou  have  ic  in  the  Treafurtn 
of  Cathedrall  Churches. 

The  Deacons  and  thcC/MrcbirarJfffJ  being  thus 
advanced,  it  is  no  wonder  that  the  Prieft  bee  left  to 
his  meditations  :  as  one  that  is  no  more  thuna  dull 
Jfrt&atour^nd  hath  no  fylcrc  of  atfivitie  to  move  in. 
*.         Got*  bhjje  c  fay  you  ,  aU  good  hoi)  Church  men  from 
'*»'//»  fuch  a  wfadvcntJtrc  -.  with  contempt  enough.  God 
vtd     ^fa  tjlcm  too?  fay  i  ^  from  a 


„    . 

tml  har&fatrttJ  i?tt»9(by  whomfocvcr  they  arc  li-  Cap,  9.  * 

cenfed)n^<>  labour  to  advance  inthkfort  thtaHtho- 
riffe  ojChurchrvtrdettfsn  any  other  of  that  nature,fb 
Hgh  above  their  Minificr,   Never  didC/ergie  wan, 
fo  liccnfed  and  allowed  bf,  fpeake  fo  contempti 
bly  of  the  Minijierie  ,  as  thismanofl/>^//7/7vV<?/ 
who  though  hce  bragges  clfe-where  of  his  c  hue-  (e)p.*j. 
*jy  entrants  (as  the  Spaniards  fpeake)  t  ho  ft  good 
and  tendtr  boirelt  which  hee  hath  within  him  ^  yet 
hec  (hewes  little  pitie  of  thofe  poore  mens  cafes  ^ 
which  hec  expofeth  thus  unto  fcorne  and  laughter. 
Eut  ir  is  true,  and  alwayes  was ,  that  a  m<ins  ene 
mies  are  thofe  of  his  orrnc  boufe  .•  and  wee  may 
fpeake  it  in  the  words,  though  net rhe  meaning  of 
the  Prophet,  Perdith  tuaex  teeft*  that  thy  deftru- 
ftion  is  from  thy  felfe  ,  O  houfe  of  jfracl.  This 
crie,  like  that  about  the  Pietie  of  the  times ,  being 
taken  up,  v:eefliallbe  fare  to  meet  withal  1  in  eve 
ry  corner  of  your  booke  :  as  if  there  were  no  life 
in  the  game  youfollow^fy/V'/V  and  the  true  promo 
ters  of  itjfhouldnotbekeptuponthe  fent  Niyyou 
goc  fo  firre  at  the  laft,  that  you  difable  Cler^ie- 
menin  a  manner,  from  being  Bxecutorsm^Ovcr-  (.. 
fcers  of  mem  mils  and  Tcftjmwts :  relline;  f  us  of 
a  pafftge  in  Saint  Cyprian  -.  which  lookcs  much  that 
way,  thuit  tjkes  the  Dottor  fy  the  nofr,  asoqfthjt 
cannot  endttrt  to  bee  a  kofyr  on^  an J 'confined  enclj 
to  hit  m'tvifleriall  meditations.    For  I  pray  you 
good  Sir !  have  you  never  beene  Executor  or  over* 
fser  of  any  mans  laft  Will   and  Tcftamcnt  ^  and 
found  itnofuch  heavy  load,  but  that  a  man  might 
beare  it  with  content  enough  ?  And  why  doe  you, 
(Icanbutwonderatit)prodaime  him  for  the  Li- 
X  2  er.nr 


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ttifir  of your  hoty  Tabk,  whofc  private  pratf/ft  ia 
his  Chappelt,  is  fo  repugnant  to  the  purpofc'  ofyour 
whole  difcourfe.  But  being  lictaft^  printed 3  pub. 
lificd,  and  fcaftered  up  and  downe  the  Kingdome 
(  as  fuch  things  flic  farrc  :  )  no  doubt  but  you  have 
niadc  good  game  to  all  the  brethren  of  your  par- 
tie  $  who  arc  now  authorifed  by  fo  good  authen 
tic,  ro  turne  their  Minifters  out  of  all  imployment, 
yea  in  fuch  things  as  doe  concerne  his  Church 
and  calling  j  and  bid  him  gee  him  home  to  his  me- 
clirations.  Spontt  ftta  propcraat.  The  people  are 
too  forwards  in  themfclvesuporuhcfc  attempts ;  and 
you  might  well  have  fpared  the  fpurr,but  that  you 
chinke  they  make  nothafte  enough,becaufe  you  out. 
ride  tliem. 

But  yet  well  fare  your  heart,  you  will  fay  nothing 
without  Fathers^  though  they  fay  nothing  for  your 
/  .  a  8l  purpofc.S.  i>dto£r*/t'»as » you  fay ,  complaints  of  the 
tilif  complaintrsofbti  tiwey\v\\ohtldthat  tkcftudieof 
tkeholj  SrriptttrfS  rv.n  but  a  dnllitndidle  tynde  ofiw- 
plojw>nt.  Arc  you  furcof  that?  Tne  Father  there 
laith  nothing  of  the  likfcomplajtters*  There  was  no 
occafion  why  hee  fhould.  The  Pritfts  were  then  m 
too  greit  honour,  to  bee  controuled  and  baffled  by 
infenour  Officers.  Nor  were  ihcreanyZ>(/Z'0/>./then 
that  la!)oured  tofupprefle  their  Clcrgie  (or  allowed 
others  fo  to  doe)  by  putting  them  into  the  hands  of 
the  '  e/?/7>  Elders.  That  which  S.  Ambrose  fpcakes 
of  there,  \*  that  fome  men  preferred  the  afti^c  kindc 
of  life,  before  the  contemplative  5  the  doing  of  the 
workes  of  nghttoufQefTe,  before  the  ftudicofthe 
flo  in  Pfalm.  Scriptures. h  Not  autetx  ecfafosnospHtamttt ,  fiverbe 
u8.  Scrm.ii.  tantHMmoJojludtnvidcamHr.  What,  (lops  he  there, 

as 


(i;p.ii 


. 

*£*".•*'•  " 

.    (*9J) 

as  you  have  made  him  ?  I  have  before  heard  of  a  Cap.  p. 
G4ggerofthc?nteflavtf\  but  here  behold  a  Gagger 
oftheholy  Fathers.  The  Father  fure  procccdcs  as 
folio  weth  ?Ef  Blurts  fftimamus  eos  e[ui  operantur^tum 
(os  q'tl  [Indium  veritatts  cognofrcadtcxercent.  Had 
you  gone  forwards  as  you  oughc  ,  you  would  have 
found  bur  little  comfrrt  from  S.  Ambrofe.  For  mark 
how  your  conclufion  followeson  his  words.  S./JM- 
brofete\[s  usoffome  men,  who  did  prcferre  an  sttiyg 
life  before  a  contemplative  ^  Ergoy  according  to  Saint 
Ambrofc  ,  the  Minifter  muft  be  confined  co  his  medi* 
faffofljj  and  fuflfer  the  Churchwardens  co  rule  the  rofV. 
.'  S.F^/jhcc  is  brought  in  next,  to  bid  his  flergie  taJ^ 
tfyfcijll  heed  ,  that  their  Martha  be  nottroitblcdrcith 
many  things.  Admit  chat  true.  What  then.  Ergo  the 
Clcrgie  muft  fie  ftill,  permit  the  people  to  do  aJl^and 
reft  rhemfelves  content  wirh^v>^  looker  sonjhc  dull 
J£  c3tt  ours  of  their  aftive  ttadtrtakiygs.Rut  know  you 
what  you  fay  ,  or  rarher  what  the  Father  faith  in  the 
place  you  cicc  ?  Thofe  lUgttl&fitforct  whither  you 
referre  us,  conccrne  Mottfa  not  Vriejts  5  thofc  which 
did  live  in  Mcxafteries,  not  thofc  that  had  the  Cure  of 
Settles:  which  makes  fome  difference  in  the  cafe.  But 
this  is  not  all.  The  qucftion  k  there  propofed  is  thus.  Jrk)S.Bani. 
riso  Tp97ra5-nr$i»/S?«MatciAjw<je«5,  what  order  they 
f  the  Monks)  (hould  follow  in  entertainment  of 
Strangers.  To  this  the  Father  anfwcrs  ,  that  their 
entertainment  fiiould  be  moderate  j  and  very  little. 
if  at  all  ?  above  their  ordinarie  dyet.  And  ^icn  Com  J 
in  thofc  words  which  yo»  i;vctitcd  In  your  M.ir- 
&*#  j  *Jt  wfy'l'tfiTM  M<xp9(xy  M  nroM^y  Aieuwaa  ^MOTTK- 
fum  ;  icuJJoSj^h  it  Chrilt  gave  Martha  little  thanks  for 
being  lo  bufie  and  diftrafted  about  her  entcrtuin- 

X  3  rncnt 


(aP4) 

Soft  3.  ment  °^  k'im*  What  tninke  Y°u  now  ^  1*  tnis  to 
thcirClcrghtakg  cfyccraU  I:ec4  ,  that  their  Mtrtha 
not  troubled  about  many  things,  i.  c.  that  they  rcfcrrc 
all  to  the  churchwardens  >  and  fuffcr  them  to  do  their 
plcafure  in  maters  which  concerne  the  Church  > 
8t  Laft  of  all  for  Swfu*,  he  is  brought  in  too.  (1)  You 

have  a  very  ftrange  Co?t/tfiiffh»  ,  that  yoa  can  call  in 
all  the  Fathers  ,  with  a  tcfiijicanditm  j  and  when  you 
findc  they  can  fay  nothing  5  yet  fet  them  downc  a-* 
inon^fk  t!ic  number  of  your  witnefics  ,  and  giveic 
out  that  all  goes  with  you.  Were  it  not  for  this  trick, 
the  caufe  would  quickly  have  bcene  tryed,  and  ne 
ver  got  fuch  hold  in  the  common  vogue.    What 
would  you  have  SvneJtM  fay  ?  Marry  you  fend  him 
in  a  tickct,and  tell  Iiim  that  he  muft  deliver  upon  his 
oath,  that  he  conceived  it  fitter  for  an  ffi$y$tian  than 
aChrijlhw  Prieft  ,  to  be  over-troubled  with  matters  of 
wrangling.    This  if  Syntfw  fhould  affirme  3  yet  ic 
would  little  helpc  your  cnufe  9  but  that  your  Parti 
sans  would  report  ,  that  fuch  a  Reverend  man  as  Sj~ 
Mcfiits  was  ,  hath  fwcrnc  dire&Iy  on  your  fide.  Buc 
there  is  no  fuch  matter  neither.  All  that  Syntfw 
*m\  .    ft.      faith,  is  this,  m  that  in  old  times  the  fame  men  were 
rpW  >1»t>x!  ^ot^  *r'efls  anc^  I'fJ&s->  that  then  both  the  ^Egypti 


- 

*pU«  7i  «u  Aw'OnaAv,  were  under  the  command  and  empire  of 

*n7M,bp.57  their  P«Vj?/5  that  f.  />/•;/?  had  fevered  the  two  offices  5 

ond  therefore  that  AnhonicH*  (TO  whom  th.it  Epiftlc 

is  iDfcrUvH^fliould  not  endeavour  to  unite  thcm.Nor 

doth  he  goc  thus  fu««  in  fine,  allowing  not  much  af- 

(n;  AMitn  cer,  that  thofc  who  hive  abilities  to  aifrharge  both 

*£",*    callings  (though  hee  confcfTed  it  of  himfuf*  f  that 

^T^'lbld!  kec  was  D0  ^uc^  mau  •"  )  n  oiight  both  execute  the 


Prieft  office  \  and  yet  bearc  rule  alfo  in  the  Common-  Cap.  o, 
wealth.  So  that  this  place  fcrvcsvery  ill,  to  bhidc 
the  Clergic  to  refer  all  matters  of  and  in  the  Church, 
to  the  difpofall  of  the  Churchwardcns.pt  other  Elders 
of  the  Vefrie:  but  might  have  fervcd  exceeding  fitly 
(were  it  not  for  the  clofe  at  laft)  to  barre  them  from 
employments  in  the  CiviUjlatc  5  for  which  ufe  quc- 
ftionlclfe  it  was  here  cited. 

But  howfoever  you  miftake,  corrupt,8<  rather  than 
the  life  would  fubbornc  the  Fathers ,  yet  one  may 
charitably  prcfumc  that  you  arc  perfect  in  your  C<lle~ 
r/»//7//£,and  will  not'filfifie  any  tiling  which  you  bring 
from  thence. I  doc  moQ:  infinitely  defire  to  find  fome 
truth  in  you  5  but  I  know  not  where-  You  charge  the 
Doctor  for  reporting,  that  by  a  Statute  (till  in  force, 
the  Sacrament  of  the  Lords  Suppcv  is  called  the  Sa 
crament  of  the  Altar :  though  it  be  moft  true.   And 
<c  then  °you  adde,  that  prefcntly  after.,  this  Aft  was 
*'  revived  by  Queen  Elizabeth  (i.e.thc  Aft  about  the 
Ce  Sacrament  of  the  Altar)  there  was  at  the  fame  Sef~ 
"fio/t  an  addition  made  to  tbcCatcch/fare(a.nd  that  like- 
<c  wife  confirmed  by  Aft  Q{ Parti amext )  whereby  all 
**  Children  ofthfr  Church ,  are  punctually  taught  to 
cc  name  our  two  Sacraments^  "B^tifmc^  and  the  Lordt 
tc  Supper.  Which  faid ,  you  draw  up  this  conclufion : 
Sf  as  thtt  judicious  Divine  nts  •very  ill  £atechlzcj> 
that  dares  write  it  now  ^  the  Sacramtnt  of  the  Altar. 
Bringing  the  Doctor  to  his  Catechifme^  a  ruan  would 
fwcarc  that  you  were  excellent  therein  your  fclfc. 
But  fuch  is  your  ill  luck,  that  you  can  hit  the  mark  in 
nothing.  For  tell  me  of  your  honeft  word3whcn  you 
were  Catcchifed  your  felf3who  taught  you  punctual. 
ly  to  name  the  two  Sacramcnts^^f/yw^and  thclW/ 

X  4  Supft  r  f 


Scdl.  2 .     Suffer  ?  Manic  fay  yoiyfcc  Cattchlpw  in  the  Com- 
me  n  Prayer-looke ,  iu  the  ad.litkn  made  unto  it. by 
Queene  Elizabeth ,  and  confirmed  by  Parliament.  I 
will  joyne  ifliic  on  chat  point,  and  lay  my  bcft  prefer 
ment  againft  yours ,  thit  you  were  nevcrraughc  fo  in 
that  Cetecblfwe.  I  fee  it's  pood  fomecimes,  to  have  a 
(q)  Mm  tar.     little  ?  learning  in  unlearned  Liturgies.    You  were 
nedondj  \n  tin-  paft  age,  good  man,  to  bee  taught  your  Catechifmt^ 
lt""t\L'tltr'J  when  thar  addition  was  put  to  it.  Lookeinto  all  the 


Common  Prayer-books  of  Quccnc  Elizabeths  \ 
and  if  you  finde  me  that  addition  to  the  Carechifme, 
in  any  of  them, I  \villquit  the  caufe.  Not  one  word  in 
the  Churches  Catechifme^  in  all  her  rcigne,that  doth 
reflect  upon  the  Sacramtntf^  the  number  of  them,  or 
the  namcs.That  came  in  afterwards  upon  occafion  of 
the  Conference  at  Hmptott  Court:  i  where  you  have 
u  it  thus :  Next  to  this  Doctor  Reynolds  complained 
"  that  the  Catechifme  in  the  Common  Prayer-book 
"  was  too  bricfe  ,  for  which  one  by  Matter  Novell 
c°  late  Dean  ofPj///j  was  addcd^and  that  too  long  for 
*c  young  Novices  to  learn  by  heart  $  requefted  there- 
u  fore  that  one  uniforme  Catechifme  might  be  made, 
"which  8c  none  other  fliouldbe  generally  received : 
cc  and  ic  was  asked  of  him,  whether  if  to  the  (hort  Ca- 
"  techifmeintheComunion  book}fomthing  were  ad- 
cc  ded  for  the  dottrinc  of  the  Sacraments^  it  would  not 
u  fcrvc-  You  may  perceive  by  this,that  till  that  time, 
Anno  i<5o} ,  there  was  no  fuch  addition  to  the  catc- 
fhifmey3s  you  idly  drcamc'of :  which  all  the  Children 
of  this  church  (  your  felfe  efpecially  for  one  )  were 
taught  when  they  were  children.?*. required  to  learne 
it.  Nor  was  this  Ctttchifm  fo  inlargcd,  confirmed  by 
ftrliamtnt  5  you  are  out  in  everything:  but  onely  by 

King 


King  Tdmet  his  Proclamation,  which  you  may  finde  Cap.  9, 

with  little  labour,  before  yo.:r  Comgn  praier  bookjif 

at  left  you  have  one.  You  arc  fo  full  of  all  falfc  dea 

lings  with  all  kindeof  Authors,  that  rather  than  be 

out  of  work  you  will  corrupt  yew  very  Primmer. 

Ron  fait  slHtcljci  tamyiceatamjnus;  Like  him  that 

being  ufcd  to  iteale,  to  kcepe  his  land  in  ;/fi,  would 

be  dealing  rufhes; 

And  now  we  thought  wee  fiiould  have  done.  For 
feeing  after  all  this  enrcrtainmcnt,thatyou  were  put- 
ting  your  felfe  into  a  po(hire,and  began  to  £07r;it:  was 
fuppofed  you  would  have  faid  grace  3  ami  difmifTed 
the  company.  But  fee  how  much  we  were  miftakcn* 
The  man  is  come  no  further  than  his  pottage^  in  all 
this.  time.  His  (looping  oncly  was  to  cate^and  not  to 
reverence.  Being  to  fpeakc  of  Altars^  mentioned  in 
the  Apoflle  s  Canons  ,  heecals  them  Larders  ,  Store- 
L'oitffj^  and  Pantrkf-,  or  if  he  fpeake  of  the  Commu 
nion-table,  placed  Altarrvifc)  hecal's  it  Drcjfir.  Now 
commingjthough  unneccfDrily.(his  Argument  con^- 
fidcred)  to  fpeake  rfbowiog  tit  ihe*.imeof]iL$\i%yhe 
cannot  but  compare  ic  to  r  a  meffe  of  pottage  :  and  (t-)rorbe*at 
comming  fo  opportunely  in  his  way  3  hce  cannot 


choofc  but  fall  upon  ir.  One  would  conjecture  by  his  fi'PmcQ'fof 
falling  to,rhat  he  did  like  it  very  well:  but  if  we  note  *'"*&'?'  I0°* 
the  manner  of  his  eating,  there  is  no  fuch  matter.  For 
markc  we  how  he  fals  upon  it  f  giving  thote  pro/tj  ^Taietbtm 
Dawtsto  Donatus^  that  pr^ftife  all  manner  of  Citrtejtet)  Donatus  /or 
or  Mjskg  and  Dance  s  ^\tf.  none  by  an)  Mcawsfor  chrijl^  Wt'-P-^« 
at  their  approach  to  the  holy  Talk  :  he  addes^  that  this 
comet  in  at  pat  a*  can  be.  How  fo  ?    Marry  fo  you  , 
ce  the  Do&or  was  ferving  in  his  firft  tneffe  of  f&ttage^ 
<c  and  the  Billiop  (as  the  faying  is)  got  into  k  ,  and 

16  hath 


Scft.  *,  "  Hath  quite  fpoilcd  it  by  warning  a  young  man  (that 
*  was  complained  of  for  being  a  little  fantafticall  in 
Cc  that  kir.de)  to  make  his  reverence,  humbly  and  dc- 
<e  voudy.  Doth  this  come  infopatythinkc  you  ?  The 
Vicar  was  noprot/d  Dame^  was  he  ?  Nor  did  the  Al 
derman  complaint  of  him  3  for  his  light  behaviour  in 
boning  towards  the  holy  Table  3  but  in  boiving  at  the 
name  of  IESUS.  Yet  on  you  run,  from  bowing  to 
wards  or  before  the  Communion-table,  to  bbrringat 
the  turns  of  JESUS,  as  if  both  were  one:  both  warran 
ted  or  enjoyned  rather  by  the  fame  Canon  and  in 
junction  j  though  you  had  faid  before,  that  barring  , 

(«/  f-9f>  '  tf'ou&h  fo honour  /j/V//,and  him  onely  In  his  t:oly  Sacra" 

went,  is  not  enjoyned  by  the  Canon.  But  being  falne 
upon  the  difh,  doe  you  like  the  rejifli?  No,You  muft 
like  no  more  of  it,  than  the  Bifhop  doth.  The  Bifliop 
he  muft  have  it  done,  to  procure  devotion^  not  deriji* 
on:  and  you  will  have  uskeepe  olttCtrtmoniesSQ  that 

(  .  rce  taint  them  not u  with  new  fafoious ,  tfyecially  apifl) 

^u^p*  fl  ones.  Would  you  would  tell  us  what  thofc  api/b  fa- 
f >ions  vt£y  that  we  fliouldavoid^  or  perfwade  him 
to  tell  us  what  we  are  to  doe,  to  avoid aerijioft  of  and 
from  the  fcornfull.  All  our  behaviour  in  that  kindc, 
will  be  accounted  <//>(/ft,by  fuch  men  as  you;and  being 
ex  tripode  by  you  pronounced  for  apiJJj,  muft  needs 
procure  dtrifion  from  fuch  men  as  they.  A  lowly  and 
accuftomed  reverettcejio  thif  bleffednamejxz  have  re- 
ceived,you  grant,  from  all  Antiquitic:  but  when  we 
come  to  doe  that  reverence.,  you  diflike  it  utterly. 

(»;p.xor.  T  wo  x  forts  of  bowings  you  have  met  within  thcE*- 
ftrnt  Churchcs^the  greater  when  they  bowed  all  the 
bodic,y  et  without  bending  of  the  knee3  lowly  and  al- 
rcoft  to  the  earth,thc  leffcr  whe  they  bowed  the  head 

and 


Cap. 


and  (kouldew  onely.  But  then  againc  you  arenot  ftr» 
taiiti  whether  that  any  ofthtfe  were  ttftiintfo  We  ft  er it 
church^  and£/  them  dtttvtrcd over  unto  us.  So  chat 
you  like  nothing  bun  *  to  oufy  a  dtrtefte-,  and  yet  not  (?)  p.  100. 
that  neither  if  it  be  not  a  lorvlj  cttrttjee.  No  >v  to  fee 
men  and  amongft  men  the  Prkft^  raike i  lowly  surtc- 
^onely  by  bending  of  the  ^^,wichoac  the  boning  of 
the  whole  body ,  or  the  hejJ  and  flioalders  ^  muft 
needs  be  taken  for  a  wn>  and  an  apifi  ftfiion ,  fie  to 
procure  dtrifion  onely  and  not  devotion  :  and  fo  you 
leave  no  reverence  to  be  done  at  ali.  Aflaredly  you 
mcanc  fo  though  you  dare  not  fay  it. For  having  flub- 
bcrcd  over  fo  great  a  point,  inthat  flovcnlyfadiion  , 
you  *  (hut  ic  up  with  this  proportionable  clofe  $  and 
]o  much  for  your  preamble,  thaf  is  jour  Cottage.  \  fee 
you  mind  yourbellie,  and  therefore  wee  will  ftep 
downe  unto  the  Hatch,  and  fend  you  up  the  fecond 
courfc  of  your  Extrav.tg*ncies:  which  how  well  you, 
have  cooked,  will  be  feene  app.irantly,  when  we  are. 
come  to  execute  the  Carvers  Office. 


SECT. 


(joo) 

CHAP.  X. 

The  fccond  fervice  of  extravagancies,  fent 
up  and  fee  before  his  guclts  by  the  Nlinifler  of 
Lincoln. 

The  Metaphoricall  AUat  ;  in  the^zi\\ttitgood  evidence  for 
theproofc  o/  Real  I  Altars  tnthe  Church.  Ignatius  corrup. 
ted  bj  Vcdelius.  Mj  Zor^o/'Chichcftcrs  cenfurf  Of  Vei. 
dclius.7"/^  Minijter  tnifrcports  Saint  Bernard.rfW  makej 
ten  Alcars  out  af  fottre*  A  new  original  cf  the  Table  *w  the 
Chrtjitan  Church  ,  from  the  Table  of  Shew-brcad;  tht 
Miniflcrs  fumbling  in  the  fwf,  defetted  by  thofeAntors 
th.n  he  brw^i  in  for  it.  The  Miniftcr  yltadtftrongtyfer  fic- 
ting  At  theholj  S*cra*nfnt  •  tndfo*  that  pur  poje  ftijifieth 
Baronius,  mi/reports  Stint  Auftin^w.V  Jt'row^/Tcriullian. 
The  Bencdiftincs  Jit  not  at  the  Sacrament  on  Maundy 


for  the  Arian',  and  will  not  hjve  them  be  the  Authors  if 
luting  At  th:  holy  Sarr.iittfttt  >  ar.d  for  that  i\iM/e  dealt 
f.ilflj  n-tth  the  Polilh  Synods  wLifh  trnpnte  tt  to  them. 
Three  Polifli  Synods  afcribctbe  fitti>:g  MthcS»tcrame*t 
to  the  modern  Arians.  The  ignorance  of  the  MiniHer^0«; 
acciperc  &  refervarc  in  Tertullian.  wlutt  the  Stations 
Giles.  The  Miniftcr  flight  i  the  appellation  ef 
cw'iceasdtJthe  Writer  oftheletter,  &  brings 
rfttmtntSAgAintt  tba.tdtVifion.Thc  Atmiftcrs 
ifnor  *nce  in  the  intention  »f  the  Kubricks.  Of  fctttngHp  tt 
Confiftory  inth:  mid/I  of  fervice.  The  autoricy  of  the 
Priclt  inrepHlJingunwortty  perfons  from  the  Sacr.tmenti 
defended  *g*i»ftt  he  Wvni&tiialfura  exceptions*  Htftrt 
a  (juxrrett  betwcenc  Cached  rail  And  Parochiall  Churches^ 
Andmtft<tkcf  the  dtffertKCc  b  trveenf  them.  The  IniunJi  ions 
*  Of  faingafitmttt  At  the  n.imeof  the  Lordt  Ta 

ble 


b!e.  r£<Miniftfr*/w*K^*f  /^*4wr</ Altar.  0/p!ca. 
fmg  the  people,  «»</;&<  Miniflers  f^rtmffirfttii  thtrtoj. 
The  Minilfcr /.*//?;  chtir 
ftintfion  0/r6*  Dyptyclu 


O\v  for  your  fecond  courfe,  it  confifts 
moft  of  LiBcolttJIwe  p/ovifion,  fuch  as 
your  ovvne  homcyeelds  withour  fur 
ther  fcarch/ome  forts  of  fifties  Carps ^ 
and  many  a  flipperie  Ee/e^  but/for/*  ab~ 
hominable^  foir/e  forgeries,  fonle  mi- 
jfowlc  dealing  of allkindcs  what  ever.  K7or can 
I  choofe  but  marvel,that  in  fuch  varietyjthcrc  fliould 
be  neither^/  nor  gW-nv/,or  any  thing  that's  rare 
and  daintic:  all  ordinariejOnr/p,  but  yetfotrle  enough. 
To  take  them  as  they  lie  in  order.  ( for  I  was  never 
curious  in  my  choice  of  diet)  the  firitt hit  I  encoun 
ter  wirh,is  a  guelgve  Ci^made  of  all  Altars-,*  ftate- 
ly  and  magnificent  fei  vice,  ten  of  them  in  a  dim,  no 
klTe.  And  this  you  ufher  in  with  greac  noife  and  ce- 
rcmo!'ie,afruringusjtlnit  there  we  have  wh.it  ever  of 
that  kindjthe  whole  world  can  yeeld  us.  If  any  of  us 
have  a  mind  to  offer  any  fpiritual  ficrifice^of  one  fore 
or  other,  *  the  ancient  fallen  have  provided  you  of 
feveratt Altars  for  them  allrfo  many//></f  God  never  n-  /? 

fall  not  ihoitoffo  large  a  promifc,for  you  have  raifed 
our  expectation  to  a  wondrous  height.  But  fuch  is  '•' 
your  ill  lucke,  thacvauntinj  (b  tx.rcmely  of  your  *' 
great  performancesiyou  perf^rmc  nothing  worth  the 
vaunting.For  neither  are  thi  fe.fcv.rall  -4/A/;v3\vhich 
you  have  f«.tforth^norhav(.  yon  fct  or  h  aide  ;//,»••/ 
that  are  prcfented  to  you  '-y  ti> v  ancit  nr  Kith  • 


;// 
«dt}ou(ive* 


"  a"c  tttt  ra* 


(3°0 

)aftiy,were  they  either  all,or  fevcral^they  conclude 
nothing  ro  your  purpofe.Your  purpole  is,to  fliew  un 
to  your  credulous  Readers,  'hat  there  is  no  waterfall 
/fl 'tar  to  be  ufedin  a  Chriftian  Church :&  'bra  proofc 
therof?you  mike  a  mufter  of  all  thofefcverall  Met  a- 
j>/W/and  Allegories ,  which  you  have  met  with  in  old 
Writere?conccrnmg/?///w.This,didyou  weigh  ic  as 
you  oughc.crofleth  directly  all  your  purpofe.&atone 
blow  cafb  dcwne  that  building*  which  you  fo  labour 
roereift.  All  AftA/pWsand  Allegories muft  rclare  to 
fomeu  h;ir,rhic  is  in  beingrand  when  a  thing  is  once  in 
being,  feverall  whs  may  dcfcant5and  dilate  upon  it,as 
theirfancie  fervesrhc.lhope  you  will  not  think  that 
there  was  no  fuch  thing,asThcGarden  ofE^^nofuch 
particular  veftments  for  the  Yrhflj ,  or  facrifices  for 
the  people^  becaufe  the  ancient  Wrirers/ome  ofthe 
at  leftjhave  drawn  them  into  Allegories^or  can  afford  . 
you  at  firft  word,  a  Metaphorical!  EphoJ^a.  Mctapho- 
ricall  pjjch,  or  a  Metaphorical  1  Yaradifc.  You  know 
\v!  ar  rrimme  Devices  may  be  found  in  DMran.i^.out 
the  Clii'.i\h,ihc  (^uircjthc  /^//<//-,thc  ornaments  and 
urenfils  of  caeh,the  habit  ofthe  Pricfts,  the  Prelare$ 
and  whatfoever  doth  pertaine  unto  a  Church,  to  the 
yprie  Bell-ropes   And  yet  you  would  be  *•  ljught 
by  *H  jf  fy  all  granger s^moic.  than  you  wcrejwhen  you  de- 
nunded  how'the  Altar  ftcod  in  forraine  Churches  5 
Hiould  you  affirme  thnt  in  the  Church  of  Rome , 
llf-  whereof  Dutand  was,  there  neither  was  a  Prieit3nor 
Prelate,  neither  Quires,  <Altarsy  Chur.  hes,  or  any 
ornaments  or  utcnfils  rot  he  fame  belonging.  Or  to 
come  nearer  to  our  felves,  there  is  a  booke  cntituled 
C  ittcLifmus  or  dints  (quitum  Pefifitl/tfjfjviltten  long 
Tnce  by  Edva/eti.,  the  Popes  Nuneto^ic^  and  pub« 

Jiihed 


(503) 

lifted  in  the  ycarc  I6ii.by  Bofqttieriu :  wherein  the  Cap.  p 
Author  makes  an  Allegoric  on  the  whole  habit  of 
the  Order ,  the  matter,  colour,  fafliion,  wearing,  ro 
the  very  girdle.  And  were  no:  you^or  he  that  fhould 
ippi-ove yoa in  it,  <-2rr?fepe(ce injced^  ifon  the  read-  (ciTf,ji  »;.? 
ing  of  that  booke ,  you  (hould  give  out ,  thr  i>  ally  wrt  *  wft 
and  materially  there  is  no  fuch  habit,  worac  by  the  £,fff  '*dted- 
Knights  oft  hat  mcft  honourable  Order5asvainc  men 
conceive :  but  that  their  habire  is,  as  fomc  made  the 
Sjiat)0nc\y  VbtUegorK)  zfymbol^  or  a  meteor.  So 
that  if  all  you  fay  were  grantedjand  that  your  ten  tro 
pic  ill3metaphoricalM//<//-/,  were  ten  times  doubled^ 
that  would  make  nothing  to  the  pre)  udirc  of  that  re- 
all  and  material!  Altar^  which  hath  continued  in  the 
Church  of  C/J/v/7,  fince  the  Primitive  times.  Nay,  as 
before  I  faid5thofc  metaphors  conclude  moft  ftrong- 
ly  fora  rcall  Altai  ^  as  the  conceits  of  Echaleti,  Du- 
rand^  and  fome  ancient  Fathers ,  doc  for  the  realtic 
of  thofe  fevcrali  fubjefts,  on  which  they  did  expreffc 
their  fancies. 

ThLfaid,  wcc  might  put  by  tliii  fcivicc,  as  not 
worththetafting^  made  rather  to  delight  the  eye 
with  various  (hewes ,  than  to  feed  the  ftrmack :  but 
we  will  fall  aboard  however,  were  it  for  nothing  but 
to  fliew  what  guelqHe  ckofes  you  have  fct  before 
us.  New  the  firft  Altar  of  your  ten,  <*  i?  Ignatius  his  ,«j  p.,I0. 
A  It  ir5the  Cottnceti  of  the  Saint  ^  and  the  Church  of  the 
frjl-f>c£ott"».  For  this  you  fend  us  tohisEpiftle  aJ 
Ephefios ,  where  there  was  nev  r  any  fu.  h  marter  to 
be  found,  til]  your  good  friend  jW£////*broi  ght  the 
old  Father  under  his  correction  ,    aid  made  I  i'n 
(peake  whar  ever  hee  vrat.  pleafed  ro  have  him.  7  na- 
e  let  alone,would  have  told  aether  talc. 


Seft.  3. 


(e,Ncccr.n- 
IU.M  m»o- 


r»a/ 


than  what  yon  make  him  tell  between  you.For  there 
he  tells  you  of  thofe  men  ,  that  Peparate  thcmfclves 
frcnuhc  communion  ofthc  faithfull  ,  auddoenot 
joyne  tocher  with  them  ;»  fatf  <)Wv  $  ex*Ar<r<V 
trwnroixw  Kfsyeypx.a/itfva'v  «  Vpxv^,  in  ea  confent  of 
facriticc  ,  and  in  the  Church  of  the  firft  begotten  , 
\vhofc  names  arc  written  in  the  heavens  ^  This  by  a 
fle'tght  ot  hand,  is  finely  altered  by  r^rft/w,  and  for 


the  CoHHccIl  off/)'.'  S.tintf^s  you  tranflacc  ic.  A  pretty 
cncicifme5hutasroonuny  of  them  are,  more  nice, 
then  wife.  For  which  and  other  his  corrections  of, 
and  annotations  on  that  Father,  I  rarher  chcofe  to 
leave  him  to  my  Lord  of  Chicltefar.  whom  lam  lure 
ycuknow  to  bewellvcifcd  in  that  kindc  of  learn 
ing;  thantakc  hinuuiro  taskemyfclfc.  And  he  will 
tell  you,  if  you  sske  him, ( i  'imiictin  ////////  &  rmpor* 
tnnnm  l^natii  tcnj'orcM,  nee  <jnl(qi/aM  attuH^c  att  pit* 


p.  tto.m 


antiquitateni  dclorqnet  ixvittjjimiiw^  &c.  According 
to  which  Character  you  coi:J  i  not  poffibly  have  met 
a  titter  Copcfmarc^  one  every  way  more  ai.fw  erablc 
to  you,  in  all  thofe  excellent  qualities,  wlicharc 
thcic  recited. 

Of  your  next  nine/oure  of  them  are  the  very  fame, 
onely  brought  in  in  feveralldrelfings,  to  beguile  the 
Reader.  »  The  fecoud,  hyj.aavowrj  which  you  tran- 
ilate  (and  be  it  fo)  the  commanding  part  of  the  rea« 
fonablc  foule,  which  is  Or/^«/ Altar  i  your ''third, 
>'•  ->J/vvJ,  AV.etix5  the  righteous  foule,  which  is  Cle- 
mtnii\\*  Altar;  the  fifth,  r]  iiAi/cpivUj  the  fincerity  of 
the  minde,  which  is  the  Vanepyrijls  Akarjthefixth, 

Co? 


Ctf  viflrnm,  or  Saint  /*»/?/*/  Altar  jthcfc  are  but  fe-  Cap.  10. 
ycrall  cxprcflionsof  the  fame  one  thing.  The  reafo. 
nablc  foule,  the  righteous  foule,  the  finccrityofthe 
foule,  arc  but  the  fcverall  habitudes  of  the  fame  one 
foulc:  And  for  the  heart,  that  alfo  muft  bee  under- 
flood  fpiritually,  and  fo  become  a  foulc  in  fine.  For 
if  you  undcrftand  it  literally  and  materially  you  over- 
throw  your  whole  dcfignc ,  in  finding  us  a  mate- 
riall  \^4lur ,   for  a  fpirituall  facrifice  ,  againft  the 
which  you  have  fo  learnedly  declared  before.   Now 
it  is  worth  your  marking,  that  all  thcfc  Authors  (ex 
cept  Clemens)  doc  frequently  mother  places  of  their 
writings,  informe  us  or  the  Altars  in  the  Chriftian 
Church,  materiall  Alt  ATS  cither  of  wood  or  ftoncj 
for  the  officiating  of  Gods  publick  fervice  :  as  wee 
have  fliewed  at  large  in  our  fecond  Section.  Nor  arc 
you  other  thanatriflcr  to  produce  them  here,  as  if 
they  knew  no  Altars'm  the  Church  for  the  myjtic4tl 
facrifice,  but  thofc  which  you  have  fhcwnc  us  from 
them  for  ftirittttll  facrifices.  The  fame  may  bee  af 
firmed  of  your  feventh,  the  memory,  which  is  Fhi- 
l»s  Altar  j  and  of  the  tenth,  our  faith  ( ' )  Saint  ///>-  fOP^1**- 
rtmes  Altar,  rbilt  arid  lliertmt  both,  acknowledged 
fevcrall,  rcall,  and  materiall  AltAr;,  in  their  fcvc- 
rail  Churches :  though  in  the  places  by  you  cited, 
they  folacc  and  delight  thcmfclvcs  in  conceits  and 
Allegories.  So  that  of  all  your  Altars  wee  have  left 
but  three,  the  fourth,  eighth,  and  ninth  j  and  two  of 
them  will  in  conclufion  prove  but  one.  Of  thcfc  tha 
fourth  is  every  fltce,  (*)(amoft  excellent  Altar) 
whcre'w,  fay  you,  wtctffer  untt  Cod  the  fveet  fmd- 
Hag  fruits  of  tur  fludits  in  Divinities.  And  this  you 
make  £#/ti;jwhisAittl.  Now  if  one  askc  you  what 

Y  you 


(3C6) 

Se&,  3.  y°u  meane  by  this  every  fUce,  I  know  you  cannot 
choofe  but  fay,  that  you  mcane  the  Pulpit  y  if  not  the 
tables  end  in  fonie  fecrct  Conventicle :  every  flace 
wherein  you  offer  unto  God  the  fwect  fmelling 
fruits  of  your  ftudics  in  Divinity.  But  you  finde  no 

j//atDF"vdcmfr~  foch  matter  C1)  in  Ettfcbiw,  nothing  that  any  way  con- 

Litclilf1*  cerncs  your  ftudies.  For  then,  none  but  fuch  learned 
men  as  you,  could  make  every  place  an  ^lt\ir,  for 
fpirituall  lacrificcs  j  as  all  men  may,  in  the  true  mea 
ning  of  your  Author.  Of  offering  up  yottr  {Indies  ^  and 
the  fweet  Cmcllirgfrnits  thereof  ( moll  fragrant  fruits 
indeed,  if  you  wcllcorfidcr  it)  nor  one  word  faith  he. 
Your  eighth,  S.  Bernards  Altar,  is,  as  you  fay,  the 
Sonnc  of  God,  become  the  Sonnc  of  m;in.  Which 
hovvfoeverit  bee  true,  as  to  the  thing  it  felfe,  and  in 
that  metaphoricall  fcnfe  as  the  former  were:  yet  have 
you  no  fuch  /./Mr,  mS.  Bernard',  your  very  Margin 

(m)  p.m. in  faith  the  contrary.  Your  Author  faith  (m)^flt<trc  J{(. 
dcmptori)  humtlu  incarnatto:  not  that  our  S  :viour  God 
and  Man,  is  become  our  /tlt.'r  ;  bntthat  the  Incarna 
tion  was  oi;rS:iviorrs  {^4/t,ir.  Or  had  S. Bernard hi<\ 
fo,  as  he  might  have  doncythen  had  it  btene  the  fame 
with  .  quinti  his  Altar,  or  the  ninth  of  yours,  which 
is  theSonneot  God  ;n  heaven.  I  tvufl.  you  will  not 
fepn rate  the SonneofLcditcome  the  Sonnc  cfmiiufiom. 
the  Sennc  of  God  nc\v  in  heaven  j  as  if  our  Saviour  had 
rot  tooke  his  bo  Jy  with  him,to  the  heavenly  glories. 
Which  if  you  doc  not,  as  youcannot(  and  1  have  fo 
much  faith  in  you,  as  to  think  you  will  nor)you  might 
have  either  reported  S.  Bernard  rightly,  or  quite  left 
him  out.  Theres  none  that  doth  defend  the  material! 
sllt.tr,  or  thinks  the  name  of  y///./r  may  bee  given  to 
iJie^/jr  Table-.,  but  falls  downc  pioftratc  at  this  Altar: 

as 


Uei 

fi? 


as  being  that  one  and  oncly  Altar  which  fanclifes  /iff  £ap4  1O 
ear  ^irituallfacrifces^  and  divine  oblations,  and  makes       *  * 
them  acceptable  in  the  fight  of  God  the  Father.  Yet 
this  concludes  no  more,  that  there  fliould  be  no  ^4l- 
tar  inthe  Church,forthc  myfticall  facrificc  j  bccaufe 
•our  high  Altar  is  in  heaven,  ^  It  are  nofrum  eft  in  cat- 
//>,  as  (")S./rM/whathit  :  then  that  you  may  con-  OOLil'.^.^ 
elude  that  no  man  hath  a  naturall  father,  bccaufe  net 
have  one  Father  which  is  in  heaven,  our  Pater  ncjlcr  ijui 
ejlinctflii^  as  the  Scripture  hath  it. 

In  the  next  place  you  fet  before  us  a  pretty  quillet  : 
the  holy  Table  (°)  in  the  Chnjlian  Church^  not  being 
f.v<y»/>//yfr^Jasyoufay,  frtm  the  fa/tare  Altars^  Exod. 
27.  but  from  the  long  Table  of  the  Sherv-bretd  which 
the 


ftotd  in  the  Temple,  ^Exod.25.  This  is 
if  it  were  well  fried,  but  upon  better  view  ,  proves 
not  worth  the  eating.  You  fay  the  holy  Table  in  the 
Chriftian  Church  was  not  exemplified  from  the 
fquarc/t//Mrjin  the  Law  :  and  yet  you  tell  us,  p.  12  6. 
that  by  the  Cantns  of  *  their  Church,  that  very  forme  u 
required  amongjl  the  1'apijlj,  and  to  them  you  leave  ir. 
You  might  doc  well,  before  you  make  it  proper  to 
the  Papifts,  and  to  them  alone,  to  have  confidci'ed  of 
the  forme  of  the  ancient.  Altars  ;  and  told  us  what 
thofe  Canons  were,  and  of  what  antiquity,  that  doe  fo 
enjoineit.  You  point  us  in  your  Margin,unto  Su.irez3 
in  tertian  part  em  :  as  good  and  pun.5luall  a  direction 
to  finde  out  the  Canon,  as  if  you  had  cnjoyn'd  us  to 
enquire  for  your  Houfe  in  Lirtcol/t/hiretand  never  told 
us  what's  your  name.  Then  for  the  Table  $f  shew- 
brcad,  to  which  youdocrcferre  the  originall  of  the 
holy  Table  ,  you  flutter  up  and  downe,  as  one  that 
kuowcs  not  what  co  truftto  :  as  moft  an  end  chey  doc 

Y  2  thar 


•*• . 


1  .•••: 


(308)  — 

Se&.  3.  that  propofe  new  fancies.  R>rp.i25.youbringinthe 
conceits  of  two  lervijl)  Rabbins,  tending  you  fay,  unto 
jfc«r^Kr^cj?.Ho\vfo^E7.ck.4.22,('itfliouldbc4i.2aJ 


it  is  thus  written,  And  he  fad  unto  me,  this  is  the  Table 
before  the  L9rd,meaniitgipithtttt&9utt  the  /lltarof  in- 
ctnfe.  You  fay  exceeding  right  in  that,thc  Table  fpo. 
ken  of  byrhe  Prophet,  is  the  Ah  ar  of  inccnfe  :  but 
v;hat  hath  that  to  doc  with  the  Table  of  Shtm  bread  ? 
This  you  confiime  by  that  which  follovveth.  The 
queft  ion  then  g  vow  ss  how  the  /.'//  AY  is  called  a  Table  : 
(P  )  and  you  reply  unto  it  fro  thole  Rabbins  J  hat  at  this 
day  the  Table  fer  formes  what  the  Altar  wo*  wont  to  dtct 
Where  firft  you  blend  together  thetablc  of  thc'/hem- 
bread,  and  the  Altar  of  Incenfe,  as  if  both  were  one 
thing:  and  next  you  make  the  Rabbins  fpeakeofthe 
Chrfjiiait  Table  ,  as  if  it  did  performe  what  the  slltar 
fhouldjwhereas  they  {pake  it-of  their  owne.  For  why 
fliould  you  bcletve  that  any  of  the  Rabbins  would 
(o)lbid.n.i»y.  conceive  fo  honourably  of  the  CirifitAn  T<ir///o(i)thaC 
fincethe  dcftrHflion  of  the  Temfl(,  they  fl.ould  become 
.  the  place  tf  fieri  fue  and  propitiation.  AfTiirfdly  the 
Jcwes  have  no  fuch  conceit  of  the  holy  Tuble  j  and  it 


was  done  but  like  a  Gentile  to  itpoit  fo  ofthcm. 
of  all,  where  before  youruakethe  holy  Table  to  bee 
exemplified  from  the  lc»g-table  of  the  SLcw-bread9 
you  (hut  up  this  vagary  with  this  handfomc  clofe, 
:'0  r-'S-J^-  ^'  )  r^at  l^e  enety  utcn^^  you  r(lflte  uMo  (  '^or  the  forme 


• 

]:' 

M 


andfcfhion  of  your  Table)  is  the  /ong-fijuarc  table  of 
thf.  7#ftj»/t.Wnich  as  it  pla'mely  contradicls  what  you 
laid  befoic,  touching  the  peck'grcc  of  the  holy  Tablet 
from  \\\cTable  of  Shew-bread,  fo  it  confutes  tne  Scri 
pture  alfo:  which  never  told  you  of  a  Table,  but  an 
tiltar  ffincenle ;  or  if  a  TMe.  yet  a  fquare  table  cer- 

uinly,. 

Up  y\ 


tainly,  forfiHrefqutftflattit  be,  faith  the  very  Text,  Cap.  lc. 
Exod.  30.  ^.   So  excellent  an  invention  was  your 
new  originall  of  the  Ckrijlian  Table -^  and  fo  bravely 
followed. 

But  then  you  fay,  you  have  fome  Authors  for  it  : 
fo  you  have  for  every  thing ,  till  it  is  brought  unto 
thetryall.  Remember  what  you  arc  to  prove,  and 
then  fhcw  your  evidence.  The  point  in  illue,  is  that 
the  forme  andfituation  of  the  holy  Table,  in  the  Chri- 
Jlia*  Church^  is  not  exemplified  from  thefquare  Altars, 
but  from  the  long-Table  of  the  Shew- bread  that  jloed  in 
the  Temple.  If  you  have  any  of  the  Fathers  that  fpeaL 
home  to  this,  wee  arc  gone  in  law;  but  all  your  wit- 
nefles  fall  fhort.  Ifidere  FeleujJot.i ,  whom  you  firft 
bring  in,  fpeaks  neither  of  the  formey  norjitnatiwof 
the  Chriftian  Table.  But  when  a  doubt  was  moved 
by  Be*\amin  a  lew,  touching  the  new  oblation  in  the 
Chriftian  Church,  that  it  was  done  (f)  in  bread  ^  and 
notinbloud,  as  were  the  facrifices  of  the  Uw  :  hce 
makes  replic  unto  the  fame,  that  by  the  law,  there 
were  both  bloudy  facrificcs  performed  without , 
w-  «*»  in  the  open  Court  ,  and  that  within  the  Tem 
ple  there  was  a  table , "'  r»  »«*««  *3i*?of  >.*x ,  not  to  be 
looked  on  by  that  people  ,  whereon  bread  was  pla 
ced.  Then  addcs ,  that  the  faid  Benjamin  was  one  (()  (p  o  r  «•  rji 
ofthofe,  and  that  he  did  not  know  that  truth,  which  ' 
had  bccne  hidden  in  the  law,  but  was  now  revealed. 
This  is  the  totall  of  his  evidence.  And  this  makes  (  - 
nothing  for  t\\e  forme  and fituation  of  the  table,  which  "  ' 
was  the  matter  to  be  proved  ;  but  oncly  that,  as  hec 
conceived ,  the  Sheiv-bread  did  prcfiguratc  fomc- 
what,  which  afterwards  was  inftituted  in  the  Chri. 
Jlian  Church,  Andlccioe  tell  you  as  A  friend,  that  if 

Y  3  you 


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Se<5l.  ?.      y°u  Prcfl*c  Ms  matter  hai'd»  as  >f  our  Cbrifun  fieri. 

jfftfdid  relate  to  that,  you  give  the  Pap'fts  more  ad- 
vantage  for  their  halfe  Communion,  thin  you  will 
gain<- unto  your  fclfe,  about  \hcforme  And  fafrion  of 
(u)  p.i  14.       your /W>  Table.    You  fay  indeed,  («)  it  iw'//&  /W, 
ytrwtveiBbringR  clear  e  and  Ancient  An  extrtttfien  for 
the jcnne  and  fylrion  of  the  Altars  in  Chrtjli<initie_j  j 
though  you   brought   nothing  hence   for  either. 
When  we  fee  more,  wee  (hall  know  better  what  to 
anfwer.  To  make  a  tranlcript  of  your  allegations, 
from  Irentus  and  S.  Amlrofc,  Or/gett,  and  Hicrome, 
being  no  more  unto  the  purpofe,  were  onely  to  wafte 
time  and  paper.    AH  that  they  fay,  is  nothing  to  the 
forme  andfttHAtion  of  the  holy  table,  but  to  the  analogic 
and  proportion,  between  the  bread  in  the  Lords  Sup- 
per  now,  and  the  Shew -bread  then:  and  yet  you  fal- 
lificyour  Author  alfo,  to  make  that  good.  You  tell 
us  out  of  lrcnxt<st  that  OMHCS  jrtfti  facerdotalem  habent 
erdinem;   and  you  fay  true,  they  are  his  words.    But 
when  you  fay ,  All  that  >tre  \ttftified  by  Chrift  Iwvc  A 
Prkftly  inttreft  in  this  holy  brctid :  though  it  be  true 
you  fay,  had  it  bcenc  your  owne ;  yet  you  untruly  fa 
ther  it  upon  Irtnxtu ,  who  in  his  fourth booke ,  cap, 
20.  whither  you refcrre  us,  tells  usnofuch  matter. 
(y)p.i»f.       The  like  may  be  affirmed  (»)  of  Saint  llicrtwe  alfo, 
whom  you  have  cited  twice  for  the  felf-  fame  purpofe, 
vi%.  1»  Epift.  >\d  Ttt.  c.  i .  and  in  Ez-ck.  c.  44.  though 
neither  in  his  comment  on  that  whole  EpifHe,orin  his 
cxpofifionon  Ezck.c.^^.  or  ^.41.  which  wasmoft 
like  to  be  the  place  jean  we  find  any  thing  at  all  which 
reflects  that  way?  But  what  need  further  fearch  be 
made  in  focUer  a  cafi?;and  fuch  as  doth  relate  fo  little 
to  the  point  in  hand  <  Especially  fincc  another  of  y out 

Authors, 


fell) 

Authors,  (i)  CMelim  A  LapiJeJtom  whom  you  bor-  Cm.  ic. 

rowed  your  quotations  in  the  margin,  f.iz6t  out  of  (y)  inHebi  j 

Saint  Hierom, in  L^f^lach.i.Cyri/l.C.ttefh.myJf.caf.^. 

and  Damafcen, de  orthod.jid.  /. 4.  c ,  14.  takes  thefc  in. 

terpretatior.sto  beoncly  \^4lleg»ries  ;  as  indeed  they 

arc  :  Alltgorici  wenfa  pantim  prepo/itionis  (ig»tjicab,it 

menfam  corporif  fr  \MfmniiChrifti  :  as  (*)  in  ihi-  ('z)Trnpn;0. 

TriffltgictU  fenfc,  faith  hee,  it  fignifies  the  works  of  t'1'-' ur ' (i^- 

mercic.  Takcfora  farewell  to  the  reft,  that  if  you  will 

derive  the  forme  andfituation  ffjoiir  holy  Table,  from 

the  Table  tfshew.bread:  Your  table  muft  not  ftand 

at  all  within  the  Chancell^  nor  in  the  middle  of  the  i* 

Church;  but  on  the  North  fide  of  the  Church,  as  you 

your  fclfe  have  placed  it ,  out  of  P^/V^p.azo.  which 

though  it  thwarts  as  well  your  owncbookc,as  the  Bi- 

fhopslettcr:  Yet  youCjproclaime,  youcarenethorv  (t;p.iij,Il4. 

the  Altars/W  either  in  the  Jcwifli  or  Popifli  Church  ;  :;'! 

'Sour  Table  being  quite  of  another  race.  And  take  this 

with  you  too  for  the  dole  of  all,  that  if  your  Table  be 

defcendcd  of  the  race  you  mean  jit  is  more  lewijl)  than 

the  Altar  .-there  being  Altars  doubtleflTc  before  Mofcs 

Law,but  no  Tables  of  S hen-bread.  Nor  can  the  Altars 


be  more  Pipt/J)  than  your  holy  table -ythcre  being 
in  the  Church  when  there  were  no  Papifts. 

I  did  before  conjecture  that  you  had  invited  us,  un 
to  a  fjmmoit^  not  an  holy  Table ;  and  I  am  now  co.  fir 
med  more  in  it,  than  before  I  was:  fo  ftronglydoyou 
plead  for  fitting  at  it,  and  in  excufe  of  them  that  allow 
thatgefture.  Amattcr  noway  pertinent  to  your  pre- 
fent  Argument,  but  that  you  muft  flie  out  foinc  times, 
to  plcafc  your  followers  :  who  but  for  fuch  'varies. 
would  be  little  edified. Now  for  the  proof  of  this,that 
fating  at  the  holy  Table  is  nor  new,  nor  (Uanac  5  you 
Y  4  tell 


Sed.  ? .     lcH  us>  (b)  ^at  the  A<xl7na  anc^  tb*  Ltr<l* Supper       _ 
eatettfcr  A  certain  time,  at  the  fame  table  ;  and  that,  for 


:. 

' 


tught  appeares  in  any  ^ntiquitie,  intheftiwcpofturc^j, 
At  the  fame  Table^  in  the  fame  pojlare  j  that  comes 
home  indeed  :butncitheryou ,  nor  any  one  of  thofc 
\vho  havcmoft  cndcvoured  it,have  yet  made  it  good. 
For  your  part  you  rcferre  your  felfe  unto  Baron  ius, 
whom  you  thus  report.  (*}VtrAt\ut  (ccuajiwgebtttur, 
which  he cltercly  proves  out  o/Chiy  foftomc  io  i .  Cor. 
J-Icw.i'j.iN  the  beginning  thereof.  So  you,  and  were  it 
fo  indeed,  yet  this  {peaks  nothing  of  the ptfture :  But 
the  truth  is,  you  have  moft  fhamefully  abufed  Baroni. 
f//}and  the  Father  too.  You  find  not  in  BAroniutttttra^t 
c<rnA]ttr)gtlt\tur,  as  if  the  A'^Trtu  and  tlie  Lords  Sup 
per,  were  eaten  at  thepw?  T,iblc,  and  thatthcy  made 
but  one  continued  aftiononcly.  Nay,  youfindc  the 
('I)  Anml.T.  contrary,  (d)  utraquefitnul  werifajtMgebatur,  are  your 
Authors  words  rand  you  have  better  skill  in  Latin^j 
than  the  World  befidcs,  if  you  can  pick  mce  one  and 
tic  fane  table,  out  of  tftenfautrtujae,  certainly,  menf* 
utraque  doth  imply  two  tables:  and  this  you  could  not 
but  have  feene  in  that  which  followcs,  communis  & 
ficra,  one  common,  and  the  other  facred.  Take  the 
\vholc  words  together,  and  you  find  them  thus :  gut- 
niam  titraqucfinntl  menfa  iuwgebatitr^  cornnmnis  &  fa- 
era ;  ejuifl  in  uHatjuaque  pr^tjlare  debcrent  >admortait.HciC 
arc  two  Tables  thcn,not  oncjthofe  Table,  of  two  fcvc- 
rallnaturcs,andnotthey4Wfjandthcrforethcbchavi* 
our  of  the  people  quid  in  u8a<]H*gffr<tJtarctle6cjtt$Q  be 
more  reverent  at  the  one,  than  at  the  other.  You  have 
an  admirable  fcarching  cie,that  can  find  here  both  the 
fameTatlCj  and/W  poftttre  too ;  but  a  farre  nimbler 
hand.,  that  could  fo  trimly  turnctwo7«£/tt,  into  one 

Supper. 


Supper.But  this  you  fay,is  clcerly  proved  out  ofSaint  Cap.*   IO. 

Chryfoflome.  What ,  the  /Wf  table,  and  \\\c  fame  fo. 

Jlnre?  Youarefhlfe  in  this  too.  fl4/ww'/</ doth  prc- 

*'  ducc  S.C/jryfiJlo/ti  to  an  life  quite  contrary.However 

"  C£r//?,faith  he, began  firlt  with  his  ordinary  flipper, 

"  and  then  proceeded  to  the  Sacrament :  yet  in  the 

"  following  rimes,  they  began  firft  with  the  holy  Sa. 

"  cramcnt  ,nnd  after  went  unto  their  Love-feafts.  And 

this  is  that  for  which  he  voucheth  the  Authority  of 

that  Reverend  Father,  Per  act*  Synaxi.foft  focrawentt- 

rum  cotnunion'e  inibant  convivittm:\ety  plain  &  home. 

Had  youdcalt  halfc  fo  honeftly  with  Baronius,  as  hec 

with  ChryfoJlc)Ht,yo\\  had  been  blameleffe  at  this  time: 

but  then  your  friends,  whom  you  ft  rive  to  pleafe,  had  t  '• 

loft  an  excellent  argument, for  a.  fitting  Sacrament. 

From  the  Church  primitive  you  fall  upon  the 
Church  of  (e)  •R'W,  which  doth  net  abfoltttely^  as  you  («)pjg.  ijj. 
foyjodemn  this  (trtniony  offittirtg:forifit  did,it  would 
recall  the  MAundie  of  the  Benedictines,  who  at  the  leaft 
once/#  theyeere^  Cthat  ison  MaundieTburfday  onely) 
receivethcSacramcntin  thatpofturc.Iftiiis  beall  you 
have  to  fay,touching  the  indulgence  in  this  cafe  of  the  "  • 

Church  of  Reme, or  the  generall  practice  of  the  fame; 
you  have  got  but  little.    Onely  you  had  a  minde  * ' 

to  let  people  fee,  that  the  Church  of  F.ngiind  was 
more  rigid  and  fcvcrc  in  this  kind,tban  the  Church  of 
Rome.  For  if  the  Church  of  Rome  (hould  connive  at 
this,-  being  a  thing  of  fo  long  continuance,  and  done 
within  the  walls  of  a  private  Monaftery  ;  it  cannot  be 
diawn  into  example,or  made  a  precedent  for  others  to 
expect  the  like.  But  if  it  chance  to  prove,that  it  is  not 
the  Sacrament,  but  a  refcrnblance  onely  of  ti.c  oldc 
which  oiuhat  day  is  celebrated  fittingly  thcfc 

Bcnc* 


Sc&«  3 .      BiMft##/VW}havc  you  not  then  deluded  us,ina  ftiamc- 
(f)  DC  dig.     full  manner '.  Bulltttgenhus  relates  the  mattcr,(f)that 
enouini  <.tc«     on  that  day,  the  Gofpel  of  Saint  lofjn  being  read  pub- 
lickly  by  the  Deacon, in  the  meantimc,w//jtt  Jtftofttis 
men  ft  s  con'jiv.t  afiident  j\\c  gucfts  fit  down  in  order  j  at 
"  their  fcverall  Tables.  What  then  '.  Frangentes  panem 
' '  azywum,  &  cultctm  invicem  yrot>in>intes,  &c.  Brca- 
"  king  unleavened  bread ,  and  drinking  unto  one  ano- 
"  ther,  they  keep  on  foot  fomc  tracts  of  the  ancient 
"fupper.  What  think  you  now '.  Is  this  a  Sacrament 
or  a  common  Supper ;  done  in  the  Church,  or  in 
the  Refectory  ?  I  hope  you  will  not  fay,  that  they  had 
mcnfa  ^///>0//f<tf  .fcverall  tables  in  the  Church^  &thofc 
readic  furniihcd  5  or  'that  they  did  invicem  propinare, 
drink  to  one  another  in  the  holy  Sacrament.  *%t4iaia  dt 
$e,ho\v  great  a  fortune  arc  you  fain  fro;  that  thought 
togainc  fuch  mickle  meed  for  this  good  fcrvicc?  BuC 
yet  you  will  not  leave  us  fo,(f)T/;w  cuftonteyis  you  tell 
\\$^mounts  higher  th^n  SaintBenediCl,tQS.Atiftins  timt. 
This  cuftome  .'  \vhat^  OfftttingM  the  Sacrament  up 
on  MatmditTkurfdAj  ?  No  fuch  matter  verily.  Saint 
'    <c  Aujlin  faith  no  more  than  this,  that  (R)  forne,(and 
tf  thofc  again  ft  the  gcncrall  cuftome)  did  think  it  law- 
"  full  on  that  day,  to  receive  the  Sacrament  after  o- 
"  ther  meats.  Not  that  they  did  receiveitfo,  but  that 
they  thought  it  la  wfull  to  receive  it  fo,«/  poft  olios  cibos 
offerri  licett  ccrpM  &  fingitis  Domini,  as  the  Father 
hath  it,  which  makes  (Itruft)  as  little  for  fitting  at  the 
Sacrament  at  that  or  any  other  timejas  that  for  which 
you  fulfilled  B  >ir  on  iuf, \\M\\  made  for  all  times. 

But  you  go  higher  yet,and  tell  us  that  it  was  the  ge- 
nerall  practice  of  the  Gf»f//w,  to  worlhip  fitting  :tnat 
(V.; p.ig.*ij^    fo  it  was  enjoy ncd  the  (h)  Romatu  by  An  exprejfe  lw  «f 

Nuwa 


JVww*  romfilius j  and  that  it  feems  to  be  the  cuftemt  of  Cap.   I O.  • 
the  Greeks  alfo,lj  an  oMQjatrsin  cftbcS(inrdePibrac. 
How  old  I  pray  you  was  that  Quatrain  ?  Not  many 
thouiands  furc,  nor  many  hundreds  ,  no  nor  many 
fcores.Thc  Scinrde  Pibracas  I  take  it,(')\vas Chancel-  (OThu.mu.. 
lour  to  the  I),  of  AMOM,  brother  of  K.//rwy  the  third  h'ajlll'-H'J- 
of  France ;and  fo  his ,2*<f/JVi/J*  could  not  be  very  old, if 
you  mark  it  well.  And  yet  you  thought  it  queflionlcflc 
to  be  very  ancient.  Youhad  not  told  uselfe(K)  that  the  (k)|Mj?,  '\ 

Apoflltfofchrift  were  net  tt  learn  ceremonies  out  of  the 
Awjo/'Numa.w  r^Qjatrainso/Pibrac. Mod  learned 
ly  rcfolved.  They  might  afwtll  have  learnt  divinitie 
from  the  man  ofLincoh/fiirt,  as  ceremonies  from  the  r  * 

gnatrains  of  the  Seinr  de  1'tlrAC.You  tell  us  further  in 
your  margin,^)  how  that  Tertulfun  makes  it  agtnerall  rl)p.i|4. 
foflure  for  att  Pagans  :  fo  he  doth  indeed.  (m,  I'tnndc  Cm)DiOrR. 
faciunt  nat tones, as  his  owne words  are.  ]5ut  then  you  c*ll> 
had  done  well  to  have  told  us  alib,  how  highly  nee 
condemns  it  in  thcm,and  how  irreverent  he  conceived 
it,  afitdere  fub  afpetfu,  contraque  afyeclitm  ejw}  to  fit 
them  down*  under  the  nofes(as  we  ufe  to  fay  )of  thofe 
very  Gods  (nt)  whom  they  did  worfliip  and  adore.  fmj  <v,frn  '''i 

This  had  been  fome  fai  re  deal  ing  in  you, could  it  have  «•'"">  »uxnnc 
flood  with  your  defigne,of  juftitying  the  ufe  of  fating  v^^YX 
in  the  holy  Sacrament.  Nay  morethan  fo,  you  lay  or  cut.  up.'i^  '  i 

Cardinall  Pw/^that  he  brings  a  paffigeoit  ofTcritil- 
lian,  to  prove  that  feme  of  the  ancient  Chriftums  <//*/,*- 
dorc,fitttng  :  and  that  this  ytfition  ef  'theirs,  \\\\s  fitting, 
Tertulli  an  (\\<\  not  blame.  Not  blame  c"  Why  man,7rr- 
tultian  mentions  it  for  nothing  elfe,  but  to  repK  in  n  J 
i:.  Nor  was  it  then  a  cuflome  toactere  fitting,  as  you 
fay.  Tertutlian  never  told  you  that,  nor  the  Cr.rdinaH 
neither.  ("(But  adfignata  eratio/ie,  afitdsndt  n:os  ift  ('VI'-«J, 

(I  ni 


Sect.  J .  quibufdam :  fomc  men  affoone  as  they  had  done  their 
prayers,  wercprcfcntly  upon  their  breech:  as  you 
would  have  them  now  at  the  praiersthefclves.Nev«r 
did  any  wretched  caufe  meet  a  fitter  Advocate.  You 
fo)  pig  i  j<f.  would  perfwadc  us,  that  there  is  ( ° )  little  fearc,  that 
here,  in  England,  the  people  will  clap  them  downeupon 
their  breech,  abtttt  our  holy  Table .-  to  I  hearc  you  lay. 
But  by  thofemany  libellous  and  (editions  Pamphlets 
that  have  been  fcattered  up  and  down,fincc  your  book 
came  out ;  we  finde  the  contrary.  Perhaps  the  good- 
ncffe  of  their  Advocate  makes  them  more  forwards 
,  in  the  caufe.  I  hope  you  know  your  o  wnc  words,and 
in  them  I  fpeake,telling  you,  (?)  if  you  were  a  ftholar, 
youwmldhave been afoawcdto  write  this  Divinity. 

For  forrei»nc  Churches  next,youtax  the  Doctor, 
as  if  hee  did(4)iwf/mfe  the  Ceremonies  of  fo  many 
neighbouring  Proteftants  ti  becunchriftiafitlttgether. 
,  Where  finde  you  fuch  a  paffagc  in  him  t  All  that  the 
t$ *"•,'*<•  'C  Doflour  ftid  is  this,  (r)  that  it  was  brought  into  the 
"  Churches  firft,  by  the  Modernt  {Brians,  (whoftub- 
"  bernly  gainfaying  the  Divinity  of  our  Lord  and 
"  Saviour,  thought  it  no  robbery  to  bee  equal!  with 
"  him,  and  fit  down  with  him  at  his  Table:  )  and  for 
*'that  caufe  moft  juftly  baniflied  the  reformed  Church 
"  in  Poland.  And  for  the  proofc  of  this,hc  faith  it  was 
"  determined  fo  in  a  geneiall  Synod^  asbeingathing 
"not  uled  in  the  Clmftian  Church,  tantnmque  pro- 
''  pria  infidelibtts  \^iriani<,  but  proper  to  the  Brians 
oncly.  T his  goes  extremely  to  your  heart, fo  that  you 
(0  P1'-  »37-'  cannot  choofc  but  wilh  ( f )  that  he  had  flared  to  abufe 
that  grave  Synod,  to  wake  them  fay  peremptorily^  ha?c 
cercmonia  Ecclcfiis  Chriflianis  non  eft  ufitata,  efrtci- 
<illy  44  he  turne;  it  into  Englijh,  this  ceremony  is  a  thing 

not 


1C. 


<• 


not  uftetintheChrif  unchurch.  Why  how  would  you  Cap! 
tranflare  it,  were  you  put  to  doc  it  ?  The  mod  that  you 
could  doc,  were  to  change  the  number  ;  and  render  it, 
theChriftittn  Churches  for  the  Chriftiait  Church  tvt\ilch 
how  it  would  advantage  you,  I  am  yet  to  feek,  But  be 
ing  fo  tranllated,  what  have  you  to  object  aqainftif,or 
to  make  good,  that  hchnth  any  way  Mnf<A  fo  grave  a 
"Synod?  Marry  fayyou^lic-.V^WfuUn,  h*c  reretw* 
"  w/-,i,  licet  (urn  extern  liltrA^c.  this  ceremony  how-' 
"focvcr  in  its  ownc  nature  it  bee  indifferent  and  free, 
ct  as  the  reft  of  the  Ccrcmonies,£c.  Whichyo\\  fay, 
fotetens  the  cafe  very  much.    And  fo  it  doth  indeed, 
fweetntth  it  very  much  to  them  which  have  a  liberty 
to  ufe  it:but  not  to  them  who  arc  retrained  to  another 
gefture.  Nor  had  you  noted  it,  being  fo  impertinent, 
but  that  you  would  be  thought  a  Champion  for  mens 
Chriftian  liberty,  as  bcfere  I  told  you.  Next  you  ob 
ject  ('J  they  dee  not  fay  it  is  a  thing  not  iifcd  in  the  Chri-  (, 
//4*  Church,  (that  being  a  corruption  of  the  Doctors) 
but  thatit  is  not  afcd  in  the  Chriftian  and  £vjnget/cjff 
Churches,  nejlri  conftnftu>  which  agreed  with  them 
in  ihc  ArticlcsofCAi/ejf/'M.  HTo,the  Doctor  was  too 
blame,  and  fliall  cry  peccavi.   But  it  is  you  that  finger 
and  corrupt  the  Synod.  Thc.Doftortookeitashcc 
found  it.  (u)  Hxc  CtremeniA^  (  licet  cum  cxteris  liters) 
Ecclefiu  chriftianii  &  cxtiottf  Evangelicis  noxtft  tift- 
tat  a  j  arc  the  very  word*.  If  you  can  finde  vojirt  .c  in- 
(cnftts  there,  it  mult  bee  of  your  ownc  hand-  writing. 
There  is  no  fuch  matter,  I  amfiire,  in  the  printed 
books.It'strue,thatinthe  rbrmerwords  itis  fo  cxpreC 
fed,  ncfcfiofit  in  u  fit  adrntnf/tm  Domini,  tnnllu  ha^ns 
coffrifut  ccclefrif,  that  fitting  at  the  Lords  Table  be  not 
ulcdinany  of  the  Churches  of  thciiCOftffion.  That's 


Scft.  J  •     MM  until,  as  unto  themfelves.  But  then  the  reafon  fol- 
IqweSjWhich  is  univer  fall. //<«•*»/»»  ceremowa^c.bc- 
caufc  that  ceremony  was  not  ufcdinany  of  the  cAr/- 
//rftf  ChurcheSjOr  Evan? e//r4//afTcmblies.This  is  the 
place  the  Doftor  prcfted  ;  and  you  can  finde  no  ctn- 
/«t/*f  »0/?r/thercjI  am  fureofthat:  nay, it  had  been  ri 
diculous  nonfence(fac\\  asyouufe  to  fpeak  fomctimes) 
(lOpjjij?.     if  it  had  bcenfo.  Now  where  you  tell  the  Do<ftor,(*) 
that  he  Jlolc  this  pafftgc  from  the  Alur  efDamafcus j 
and  having  ftole  it  did  corrupt  it:  hec  muft  needs  an. 
(y)AUarc  D.<-  f\ver  for  lumfelfe,that  it  is  neither  fo,  nor  fo.  (r)  The 
nufc.p.jji,     ^ltttrofD*m.tfcM  doth  report  the  place,f'»  terminis, 
as  itis  extant  in  the  Synob  5  and  as  the  Dodor  layed  it 
down  in  his  Coal  from  the  Altar. Nor  did  he  ever  know 
that  the  place  was  there,  till  you  directed  him  unto  ir. 
Btitfoornotfo,  all  is  one  in  your  opinion.  (*)  For 
both  the  \^4lur  and  the  Co*l  arc  quite  miftakcH^  as  you 
give  out,  in  thinking  that  the  Synod  did  ever  fay,  that 
this  cercmonie  was  brought  in  or  ufed,  by  the  mtdernt 
Ar'tAns.  Neither  brought  in,  nor  ufed  ?  that  were 
ftrange  indeed.  What  is  it  then  that  they  inrend  t 
Oriely,  fay  you,  that  itis  4rianuprtpria,3it/ji#g fitter 
far  tie  Arians,  who  by  their  doftrine and  tenets  tUced 
themfelves  checke  by  \ottlc\vith  thcSonneefGodjhenfir 
devout  tntl  humble  Chriftians  ,  cwpajjed  about  with 
-    neighbours  fo  fund.-tnient.illy  heretical!.    (i>)And  tl)is 
you  fay, the  Altar  cjpied  at  Itijl,t8bethemetini»pofthc 
Synod,  thM  {it ting  rv.is  proper  tithe  Arians,;;o/  by  ufoge, 
but  fecunditm  principi*  dotlrinx.  {ux  ,    by  the  princi 
ples  of  their  doctrine  oncly :  and  fo  conclude,  that  con 
trary  to  aU truth  of  jlori,  the  Doctor  makes  it:  firft 
brought  in  by  the  UModcrne  Art  arts.  Had  you  looked 
forwards  in  the  Synod,  you  had  found  it  other  wife. 

For 


nlIai:- 


For  there  it  followeth,  (e)  that  fitting  at  the  holy  Cap.  IO. 
Sacrament  Hrft  crept  into  their  Churches,  fotifimnm  (c)  synod.Vn- 
tceafionc  &  attfiicio  illorum,  &c.  efpecially  by  occafi-  |odiflivienf.in 

j  i        c  \      r  u-  i         •/-       11      t     J  Harm.  Con. 

on  and  example  or  thole  men,  which  mncrably  had  w. 
fallen  away  and  denycd  the  Lord  that  bought  them. 
Nor  was  irjo  refolved  in  this  Synod  onely,  <^4nno 
1583.  It  was  concluded  fo  before  (d)  in  the  Synod  ( 
of  I'etricone,  in  the  yeare  1578.  that  fitting  at  flic  J 
Lords  Table  was  fir  ft  taken  tip  by  them,  who  rafli- 
ly  altering  every  thing  in  the  Church,  and  ignorantly 
imitating  Chrifts  example,   were  fallen  offto  Aria- 
nifmc.  Jiut  I  will  lay  you  downe  the  words  for  your 
more  aflfurance.  Sefiienis  vero  fid  wfnfam  Domini,  &c  . 
i  Hi  inter  no>  pritni  Att:  bores  cxt  iterant  }qui  emnia.  tcmerc 
in  ecclefiA  immutantes,  &  fine  fciintiA  Chriftum  qu>tfi 
intit  antes  >  nobis  Ad^rianifinumperfdi  tnuufugA  ft.' 
tttfiwt.  That's  all  that  hath  relation  to  the  point  in 
hand.  The  reft  which  is  cut  off  with  an  &c.is  a  touch 
onely  on  the  by  ,  that  the  faid  fitting  was  repugnant 
to   the  ufe    of  all  the  (e)   Evangelic  AH  Churches 


leave  this  gefture  as  proper 

'  peculiar  unto  them,  (f)  who  handle  both  our  Savi-  /vvcChniiu 
'our  and  his  Sacraments  with  the  like  irreverence;  na  &&««)"« 
'and  being  in  it  felfe  uncomely,   irreligious,  and  "wcnntci  ^ 
'  very  fcandalous  withall  unto  fimple  tnen.   Nay,  "*  *'"' 
before  that,  Anno  1563.  it  was  determined  to  this 
purpofc  alfo  in  another  Synod  at  Cracov/n ,  that  if 
perhaps  any  did  ufc  to  fir  at  the  Lords  Supper,  cere- 
Mfniam  earn  i^riafMbtftiJlis  relinquant,  they  (liould 
dcfert  it  utterly,  as  proper  and  peculiar  to  the  /Irian  &im?conl!fl. 
&fr,.~»jtijls,  Thismakesitclcercasday,  that  fitting 


at 


Sect.  3  •     at  *hc  Lords  Table,  wjs  brought  into  the  Churches 
firft,  by  themodernc  Brians.  That  which  youinter- 
pofc  touching  lohn  jjLtJro,  is  not  worth  the  while. 
(i»;  P»S.IJ«.     He  (hj  was  not  fctled  in  Poland,  as  your  fclfc  affirme, 
untill  the  yeare  1557, which  wns  ^ut  fixeycarcs  be 
fore  the  Synod  at  Cracovia,  wherein  this.oefturc  was 
condemned  of  Arianifme.  Nor  was  he  fctled  thcnin- 
de*  d,  if  you  confidcr  the  Epiftles  unto  Calvin,  which 
your  fclfc  hath  cited  :  things  not  fucceeding  there, 
(i)  Vtenhovi-  ^i ^  fajth  ytcnlio'vi us ,  to  their  hearts  dcfire,  adco  fttrio. 
AnnoVjfr.m  fc  fe  "ppotiit  Satan  prepaga ti«nt rfgni  Chrifti ;  fo  furi- 
gpi.oiriB.      oufly  doth  the  dcvill  oppofe  the  propagation  of 
Chrifts  Kingdonie.  But  fctled  or  not  fetlcd,all  is  one 
for  that.  The  <^4ri<ws  were  hcreftarted  up  before  his 
comming :  nor  have  I  fuch  a.revcrcnd  opinion  Q^lobn 
ALaffo,  but  that  fome  principles  of  his  might  tend 
that  way  alfo.    And  fo  1  leave  you  to  confidcr,  whe 
ther  the  ^r/x^orthc  Puritans  arcmoft  bound  unto 
you,  for  ftanding  up  fo  bravely  to  defend  their  caufe. 
That  which  comes  next  to  hand  isftult,  afoule  wif- 
M/{r  ortwo,  about  the  ancient  praclife  of  the  Church, 
r»  P'g-  *•**•    anc*  T{rtuM*ns  meaning.    You  fay,  (k)  that  in  Tcrtut* 
/uptime,  t\\cy  did  not  (AS  wee  now  doe)  eatethe  t»n- 
\  fecrated  bread  itfo»  the  place,  but  accitcrc  &  refer<varcy 

referveit,  and  carry  it  home  with  them.  Youmake 
this  generall,that  they  did  not  as  we  doe  now,  that  is, 
not  eatc  the  confecrated  bread nfo»  the  place ;  whereas 
indeed  it  wak  but  in  particular  cafes :  cither  in  times  of 
pcrfecution,  \thcn  they  could  not  meet  fo  often  as 
they  would,  for  fcarc  of  troubles ;  or  in  thc'5/4//>*s, 
or  daycs  on  which  it  was  not  law  full  to  worfliip  knee 
ling.  Inthe  firft  cafe, they  did  aecipere  &  re(rrvare3 
receive  it  of  the  Prieft  at  Church  in  fcverall  portions, 

and 


fi? 


(MO 

and  then  refervcir,  that  is,  take  it  home,  andeatcit  Cap,  joi 
there,  at  fuch  times  as  they  thought  moft  fit  for  their 
ghoflly  comfort:  and  this  they  did  dpccially,  that 
they  mightbe  fure  to  have  it  for  their  laft  v/Aticnw, 
at  the  approach  of  fudden  unexpected  dangers.  This 
they  did  ufe  to  eat  in  fecrct,beforc  other  nieates,  as  is 
apparent  by  that  paflagc  (')  \nTcrtuttmn,  Xot:»e(cict  (0  AJuwcn 
mArl\u4  quidfecreto  ante  omrie  cllttm  gnfles  ?  But  this  is    '  ,; 

nogoodproofe  I  truft,  that  therefore  in  the  Church, 
they  did  noteatat  all ;  bccaufe  they  did  referve  fonie 
part  to  bee  eaten  at  home.  That  were  to  ovt  i  throw 
the  nature  of  the  holy  Supper,  and  make  the  Commu 
nion  to  become  a  private  eating.  In  the  next  caf:, be 
ing  that  of  Station^  which  you  with  confidence  c- 
nor.gh,  have  made  to  bee  afoft  or  (*)ftd>likt  meeting  (m)iM-.i*/>. 
(  as  if  there  were  no  publikc  meetings  but  on  I:afts, 
nor  Tarts  but  on  a  publikc  meeting  :  j  it  was  ordered 
thus.  There  wcrefome  ccrtainctimcs,in  vvhich  it  was 
not  lawfull  to  worfliip(n)£>w//>7£,  as  vi\.  among  o-  ^^R^" 
ther  dayes,  every  Sunday  in  the  yeare,  and  the  whole  cul^domc 
time  from  Pajc h.  to  Pcntccojt.  Now  in  thofe  dayes  of  n.cf '» ^c  J"- 
st at ion,  or  (landing  dayes,  at  which  the  people  might  [mm*mit!ice!i 
notkneclc,  in  the  receiving  and  partaking  the  holy  iMf.iu.ia 
Sacrament  j  many  of  them  rather  chofc  to  fbrbeare  ^"j",,^'* 
the  Communion^  thdn  to  take  it  (°J  (landing.  Which  Tcitui.de 
being  well  knowne  unto  Tcrtullian,  hee  wiflieth  them  p^1'^1', 
to  come,  though  they  might  notkneclc,  and  takcit  i,f,f  rfin-ii"" 
Handing  at  the  Altar,  £.V/  fiiidwiim  Dei  flttcris  ;  J  i't  '  'q"-» 
and  to  rcfcrvc   and  take  it  home,  and  cate  at  their  ijjj^at."1' 
owne  houfes  ,  kneeling ,  according  unto  their  de- 
fires.    By  doing  which,  accepto  corporc  Domini  & 
refervato,  by  their  receiving  of  it  in  the  Church,  and 
carrying  of  it  home  to  eate  it  there ,  they  fliould 

Z  (P)  falvc 


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p).'a«.|. 


fr)  klvc  a^  ^orcs  :  participate  °f  the  Sacrifice,  as  they 
ought  to  doe,  and  yet?  retain  the  old  tradition,  in  thofc 
dayesofS/4f/'w»,  This  if  you  undcrftood  before,  you 
did  ill  to  hide  it  i  if  not,  you  arc  a  little  wifer  than  be. 

-  J  * 

fore  you  were. 

The  next  that  comes  before  us  is  a  covered  difli, 
and  being  uncovered,  proves  a  Getty  ^  (i)  nd.wdius 
Cellun  in  your  Inngua^c,  a  LimeGilcs'm  ours.  Jr/;tf 
//>/.<  Aiwf  Gilts  //  o//W  /'f  ,JM  CAnnotgtKffc  you  fay,  but 
indeed  you  will  not.  L<iwe  Giles  his  baitings  is  the  ti 
tle  of  a  booke  fct  out  by  M.ifK'r  rrynne,  a-^.iiiift  Giles 
/  Viihivts  of  Oxford  :  wherein  the  1  )odtor  fu  (\  encoun- 
trcd  with  the  nam:  of  nrtjftr,  applied  to  the  Coin. 
mtinion-  Table  {landing  .f/Mr-n'/yr,  and  of  the  which 
hce  thought  him  to  have  lx.cn  the  Author,  till  he  ob. 
fcrvcd  it  in  the  Letter  to  tlie  Vicar  of  Grant  ham  Jvcing 
the  ar.cienterofthc  two.  liut  this  is  but  a  copy  of  your 
countenance.  You  have-  not  (b  frmll  intcreft  in  Matter 
rri)i)iet  as  not  to  bee  partaker  of  his  learned  labours  j 
though  you  fecme  loath,  both  here  and  clfcwhcre, 
that  any  tiling  of  his,  fhou'.d  be  cither  pirttttd,  or  prin- 
wr//  on  you,  or  any  friend  of  yours  whoever. 

This  diflibei-g  thus  uncovered,  and  fct  by,  Ictus 
now  fall  more  roundly  to  yo.ur  Jefond  (twice.  In  the 
beginning  of  your  booke,  you  tell  us  that  the  Doctor 
Cl')/rf/»f/,th:u  thcivr/'/fr  of  the  letter  doth  flight^  but 
des  •,  for  l;ci-d*i')  cite  *nA  gpprwethc  Affiliation  of  fe- 
etxtprvict.  TheBilhops  (f)  letter  ham  ir  thus.  The 
tJHiniftcr  J}'f»i;itcdtc  reside  the  Ctmmnnion  (  which  you 
out  tf  the  Lookc  ff  7-'.r/?,in  i.  of  the  A'/'w^,  areple.tfed  to 
)  ibiJ.p  77-    call  (aond  fit  vice.}  And  towards  the  latter  end,  (')  ei. 
therinthe  firji  or  fecondfcrvicc,  asyoudiftinguifli.  Is1 
this  to  cite  and  to  approve  the  appellation  '.  Yes,  that 

it 


' 


it  is  fay  you,  and  mere.  For  the  good  writer  of  the  Cap. 
letter,  finding  the  (u)  Vicar  v  fed  it  (  as  it  fames )  in  his  MP.ITJ 
4ifconrfc,  and  that  the  neighbours  boggled  at  />,  e \-ctt  ft ih 
it  at  dont  in  imitation  »f  that  grave  ayid  pious  bockt. 
Thatgravcand  pious  booke,  good  Lord,  how  wife 
you  are  upon  a  fudden,and  yet  how  fuddcnly  doe  you 
fall  againe  to  your  former  follies?    That  booke,  as 
grave  and  pious  as  it  is,  was  never  intended  ( .is  you  fay 
in  thatwhich  followcs  )  to  give  Kubricks  to  thepublike 
Liturgie  :  and  therefore  howfoever  ths  Fajl-bcokc 
calls  it  (  fo  grave  and  pious  though  it  were  )  let  never 
any  Countrcy  Vicar  in  f.incclne  niocefe,  prefumeto 
call  it  fo  hereafter.  Iu(t  fo  you  dealt  before  with  hi? 
Majcfties  Chappcll.    Having  extolled  it  tothehca- 
vci'.s,  and  fct  forth  all  things  in  the  fame,  («)  as  wifely  (i)  p- 
aadreligicHJly  done  :  yet  you  arc  refolure,  that  I'arijl) 
Churches^  arc  not,  nor  ought  not  to  be  bound,  to  i»ti- 
tattthe  fame  intbofe  owrrvWcircumftanccs.  A  grie. 
vous  finne  it  was  no  doubt,  for  the  poorc  Vicar  to  ap- 
ply  the  distribution  of  the  Service,  inthcbookc  of 
Fajt^  unto  the  booke  of  Common- Prayer  :  and  it  was 
very  timely  to  be  done,  to  cxcufc  hint  in  it,  as  if  he  did 
relate  oncly  to  the  Book  ofTait.  El fe  who  can  tell, 
but  that  the  Alderman  of  Grantham  and  the  neigh 
bours  there,  might  have  conceived  hce  ufedit  0)in 
imitation  of  the  two  CMaJfes  n[ed  of  old;  that  viz.  of 
the  Ctitechumcn't^  and  that  ef  the  F  aithfull :  neither  of 
which,  the  Alderman  (  aprudcnt  anti<'ifcreet^but  no 
learned  man)  nor  any  of  his  neighbours  had  ever 
heard  of.  Great  rcafonto  cxcufethc  Vicar  from  fo 
foulc  a  crime  j   which  God  knowcs  how  it  mighc 
have  fcandalized  poore  mcn,that  never  had  tooke  no-  * 
tice  of  it,  till  it  was  glanced  at  in  the  letter. 

Z  z  The 


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(»;  ra3-'74' 


The  Vicar  being  thus  excufcd  ,  you  "turne  your 
ftile  upon  the  Do&or,  for  juftifying  the  diftribution 
of  the  Common  Prayers,  into  a  firft  and  fecond  fcr- 
vice.    You  faid  even  now,  that  you  Approved  the  4p- 
fdlatioHi  yet  here  you  give  us  fcverall  Arguments 
for  reproofc  thereof.    For  fir  it,  fay  you,  (»)  the  Or 
der  ef  Morning  Prayer,  is  not  (  as  the  poorc  man  fup- 
pofeth  )thc  whole  >J\lorn'ing  Prjycr,  but  a  little  frag 
ment  thereof,  called  the  Order  or"c/Jfit//f»/,in  the  old 
Primers  of  King  fitnrj  the  eight,  King  f.dwardthe 
fixth,and  the  Primer  of  Saram,  what,  no  where  elfe  ? 
Doe  you  not  fnue  it  in  your  Common-Prayer  Book, 
to  bee  called  Mattcns  ?    Looke  in  the  Calendar  for 
proper  LeflTons,  and  tell  ince,  when  you  fcemee  next, 
how  you  rmde  it  there  t  (J)f<ittexs  and  Evenfong,  faith 
it  there  ^  iteming  And  Evening  Prayer  ,  faith  the 
Booke  clfe-wherc  :  which  nukes,  I  trow,  the  Order 
of  Morning  I'raycr  to  bee  the  fame  now,  with  the  Or 
der  of  '^fattens  sand  that  in  the  intention  of  the  Com« 
mon-Prayer  Book,  not  in  the  Ancient  Vrimcrs  onely, 
A'w  the  whole  Morning  Prayer  f.iy  yon,  but  youfpeakc 
wiihont  hooke  :  yourbooke  initructing  youtoh'ndc 
the  lull  c'oiiif;.1  and  tenor  of  *J(lQrtring  and  Evening 
I'r.tycr  thttoigbout  ibcytArc.   Yet  youobjed,that  if  we 
fliov.ld  make  cr.c  ftr-viccoftbe  M  Aliens,  wcniuft  tnakc 
another  of  the  CoUcc'/s,  <\nda  third  of  the  Letany  :  and 
the  CoHwtinion  .it  the  (ooneft  mil  bee  the  fourth,  but  iy 
no  H.-c.wis  t/jc  fcco::tljcrvic<LJ.  Why  Sir,  I  hope  the 
Cclluis  are  tliftiibuted,  fomcfor  the  firft,  and  others 
for  the  y?r*W/t/"wVr  :  there  is  no  particular  fcrvicc 
to  bee  made  of  them.  And  for  the  Lttwic,  com. 
paring  the  Kubrick  after  gHiciinqitc  vnlt  ,  with  the 
Qiccncs  Inanitions,  that  fecmestobeeapreparato- 

rie 


•      nc  to  the  jtcond  (eri/icc^f    For  it  !«  Pitr?  f\>\  »N 

"That  immediate!*,  i*.^  *- -"ofQmiSn?'  9^*  J°' 

(•v  *•-  •'?•!•• 


«  r      ,  Church,  nnd 

fingor  fay  plamly  thc  Letany,  &c.   And  you  „  "? 
markcit  in  forac  Churches,  that  whiles  thc  L 


H  rl,    ,-.  ,'         ,      orc  arSc         -Thirdly.fiy  you 

•«  '   °        °'  'W"W'"  d°th  C''"  «WC'*-  «*- 

"-w- 


yru'7'vT-'  ric  ulclcn°P"iersfor  /Cm^or  Bi 
.  1  note  wnichconie after  in rhf/M.-;^  «V.i...  • 


more  Iame&  flil. Th.v^Nr  r.,.  ,.„' 


Sc£t,  ?.  ^on  °f tne  Service,  and  confequcntly  no  part  there 
of  to  be  officiated  at  the  htly  table ;  which  isexprefly 
contrary  to  the  Rttlrick  after  the  Communion .  You  arc 
like  I  fee  to  prove  a  very  able  .V/»//'.Vr,you  are  fo  per 
fect  inyor.r  'fortnif. 

But  now  take  heed, for  you  have  drawn  youi  fh  Oaths' 
together,  to  give  the  poore  Do  (ft  or  a  grcv.t  blow,  ac- 
C>)  f -T7'-       cuiinc  him  ol(8)fO«/«r///g//^  fiith elotlrine^  tni»bt  turn 
not  A  fewl'trjons  and  ft  cars  oitt  ofthcirlltntfices  infln,rt 
time  How  fo? Why  by  incour.igingthcMJii,il>colifrin- 
tcdwithLiccnet^l  fceyot;areditplcakd  ;.t  the  licence 
ftill)to/(?/  up  A  confifttriein  tic  n  idft  c/divine  Service, 
. ;  and  to  exawinein  the  fawc  the  werthines  ofallCowniuui. 

t.wts.  The  Dr.  finds  it  in  his  Kubrick,  that  fo  many  as 
intend  to  be  partakers  of  the  holy  Communion,  (hall 
fignific  their  names  unto  the  Curate  over-night,  or 
clfc  in  the  morning  before  the  beginning  of  Morn 
ing  Prayer,  or  immediately  after.  Prom  whence, 
ni;d  from  the-followins  Kubricks  ,  the  poore  Doctor 
(l«-;.c*iAp.iy.  gathered  ,  ('•)  that  in  the  intention  oi  the  Church 
"  there  was  to  be  fume  rtti(tnjbletimc,ktiwetnc  L/ilctn- 
" tug  Prayer  and  the  Communion.  "  For  cthtrwifc 
"  what  leifure  could  the  Curate  liavc  to  call  before 
"him  notorious  cvill-livers,  or  fuch  as  have  done 
"wrong  to  their  neighbours,  and  to  advertife  them 
''  not  to  prefumc  to  come  unto  the  Lords  Table :  or 
"  what  fpare  time  can  you  afford  him,  betweene  the 
"  Reading  Pew  and  thc/c/yT.i^/f,  to  reconcile  thofe 
•'men  betweene  whom  hec  perceiveth  malice  and 
"  lurrcd  to  raigne,  ckc.  as  he  is  willed  and  warrant- 
"cdtodoe,  by  his  Common  prayer  Bookc.  Call  you 
this  fettinjj  up  a  Confident  in  the  middejl  of  Service  ? 
You  might  have  feenc  ,  butthuc  you  will  not,  that 
here  is  nothing  to  be  done  in  the  midjl  efjcrvice  :•  bttc 

in 


in  the  middle  fpace  of  time,  betweenc  both  fervices ;  Cap.  \  o . 
when  as  the  people  are  departed ,  and  the  Curate^ 
gone  unto  his  Lou  ft.  This  was  the  ancient  practice  of 
the  Church  of  England.  The  Morning  prayer,  or 
tJMattens  to  begin  betweene  fix  and  fevcnj  the/trow/ 
(ervicc,o\-  Communion  fcrvice,  not  till  nine  or  ten: 
which  didribution  ftill  continues  in  the  Cathedral! 
Church  tfWwchejltrt  iuthatof  .SV«//w»f//,  and  per- 
haps  fome  others.  So  that  the  names  of  thofe  which 
purpofed  to  communicate,  being  fignified  unto  the 
Curate,  if  not  before,  yet  prefently  after  (JMowing 
Pr.iyer:  hee  had  furricient  time  to  confidcr  of  them, 
whether  he  found  amongir,  them  any  notorious  evill 
livers,  any  wrong-doers  to  their  neighbours,  or  fuch 
as  were  in  malice  towardsonc  another, and  to  proceed 
cccordingly,ashe  faw  occafion.  All  this  you  wipe  OIK 
inftantlyvvitha  dafli  of  wines  f1)  Exigue  PergAWA  tota  cOO/id.Epifl. 
were,  as  the  Poet  hath  it :  as  if  the  notice  given  unto  l>cnelop. 
the  Cftr.it e  were  for  nothng  elfe,  ^k)  but  thAt  provision  r^  p.,7tf- 
w'tglit  iewAiU' of  UrcAel Attd \Vinc ',  And  other  neceffaries^ 
ferthAt  hotj  myjierit.  And  were  it  fo,yet  could  this  ve 
ry  ill  be  done,  after  the  beginning  of  CMorning  Pr.iyer 
(as;')you  needs  will  have  it.)  For  would  you  have  the  (l)//«>«<//4//, 

people  come  to  ficnifie  their  names  unto  the  Cur  Ate,  «f""/'5  *"!»*- 
i       i  i™       i  r  n  i  nmiffMunatt 

wlien  he  was  reading  the  Cw/fj5/«»,or  perhaps  the  PA-  prfirtf.iji* 
tcr.nofterpr  the  Pftlmcsjx  Lelfovty  &  then  the  Curate 
to  break  ofF,as  oft  as  anyone  came  to  him,  to  bid  the 
Church  \v.\rdens  take  notice  of  it,  that  RrcjeJ.imi  U'me 
may  be  provided.  Befidcs,you  muft  fuppofc  a  TAvern 
in  every  Villagc.anda^^rtoo:  elfc  you  will  hardly 
be  provided  of  Bread  and  Wine  for  the  CermnttnicAnts^ 
in  lo  fliort  a  fpace,as  is  between  the  beginning  of  Mor 
ning  Prayer,  and  the  holy  Sacrament,  Nay,not  at  aU 

Z  4  provided 


(}«*> 

Scft,  * .  provided  in  fome  places,but  byPoft  and  Poft-horfes, 
and  much  inconvenience;  the  Market  towns  being  far 
off ;  the  wayes  deep  and  mirie:  which  what  a  clutter 
would  makc,cfpecially  upontht54^//;,as  you  call  itj 
I  leave  you  to  judge.  Aflfurcdly  whatever  your  judge, 
mem  be,  you  area  Gentleman  ol  the  prcttitft  and  the 
fine  ft  fancies,  that  I  ever  met  with. 

Thus  dealc  you  with  the  other  Kubricks,  and  wreft 
them  quite  btfidcs  their  mcaning^cfpccially  the  third, 
which  conccrntrh  the  repulfing  of  thofc  which  arc 
obftinAtely  m.iltcicitsfc  will  by  no  means  be  induced  to 
a  reconcilement.  You  tell  us  oncly  ofthe  fccond,\vhich 

(™;p.i77.  requires  the  C\\Ti\tc(M)toaJmMijh*&9ptitaiulxtt»ri- 
cw  cvi/l  liven ,  fo  to  AWtndlbcir  lii'ts,  th>it  the  congre 
gation  may  thereby  he  fat i< fed :  thitt  it  vrcrcmefl  ricli- 
Ciilonjly  frtfcrilftd  to  It  done  in  fiich.i  place,  orinfoficrt 
A  time  j  and  therefore  that  it  u  itiHndcdttle  performed 
by  the  CurMt  upon  private  conference  with  the  parties. 
Forwhich  you  cite  (oncly  to  flisw  your  mighty  TCVL- 
ding)  i\\zorder«f  the  Communion,  An.  1548.  But  both 
the  obfervation  and  citation  too,  might  have  been  ve 
ry  well  omitted.  For  I  would  know  of  you,  good  Sir, 
whoever  doubted  it  but  thofc  admonitions  ought  to 
be  in  private,  or  thought  the  Church  in  time  offer- 
vice  to  be  a  fitting  place  for  perfonall  reprehenfions  ? 

(n)p.i?i.  Sothatyou  rniylit  have  fpared  to  tell  us,  your(n)e*>nc 
Ijudable^nifr/V^,  in  not  ktep'iHf  L.ictt^  but  onelj  admo- 
nilbwgpttblick  offenders  upon  the  evidence  of /Aft  j  and 
that  not  pniltckly  neither >  nor  by  name  :  unleflc  there 
hadbecn  fonuwhat  fingular  in  it,  which  no  man  ever 
liad  obferved  but  your  ovvne  deere  lelfe  j  and  that  to 
be  propofed  as  an  Inftitutio  Caccrdotttm,  for  all  men 
clfc  to  regulate  their  actions  by.jlut  for  the  ihird,yon 

fay 


fay  that  it  directs  the  Curate  how  («;  to  lealt  with  Cap." 
thofet  whew  hie  perceives  bj  intimation  given,  and  di-  (o) 
r  tit  ton  retarded  from  hts  Ordinary  ,  to  continue  in  tin- 
repented  hatred 'and malice  :  \vhom,liaving  the^rtt1?;- 
en  of  his  Ordinary,  he  may  keep  from  receiving  the  Sacra- 
went, and  that  in  an  in  ft  ant  without  chopping  or  dividing 
the  divine  fervict.  And  then,  that  otherrvife  it  were  a» 
unreasonable  and illcgaH thing  j hat  a  Chriftian  wan  lay 
ing  open  daime  to  hu  right  in  the  Sacrament,  fiould  le 
debarred  from  it  bj  the  meere  discretion  of  a  Curate. 
Pwre  Pricfts !  I  cannot  hut  lament  your  cafe ;  who  arc 
notonely  by  this  <J\linifttrof  Lincoln  7)/>rf/>,dcbar- 
red  from  moving  and  removing  thc/Wy  Table  :  but 
abfolutcly  turned  out  of  all  authority,  from  hindering 
fcandiileus  and  unworthy  per  Ions  to  approach  unto 
it.  That's  by  this  Minifter  conferred  on  liis  (p)  Deacon 
alfo:  bccaufcfbrfooth  it  did  belong  unto  the  Deacon, 
tocry,  w«fSvo«i7«tSv«?<i  lookcto  the  doores  there,  to 
thedoorcs  ;  and  to  take  care,  \\-\cCatcchnrncni,  and 
thofc  which  were  not  to  communicate,  ftiould  avoid 
the  Church,  oftclum  infti>idt<m&  in  facet  am!  Such  a  j 

dull,  drowfie  difputant,  did  never  underMke  fo  great 
an  Argument.  As  if  the  Deacon  did  thcfc  things  of  his 
own  authority;  not  as  a  Mini/1  er  unto  the  Prieftjund  to 
five  him  a  labour.That  which  comes^)aftcr  from  the  fq)Sn»e»; 
lefuitcs,  and  other  5f/^o/fwfw,  will  concern  us  little,  Domimcui* 
whoarcnottobegoverncdby their diclarcs anddeci-  l^^f^' 
(ions,  but  by  the  rules  and  Canons  of  the  Church  of 
"  England.  Now  for  the  Kubrick. that  fait h  thus.  The 
"  Curate  flnll  not  fuffcr  tliofc  to  be  partakers  of  the 
<{  Lords  Table,  betwixt  whom  IK-  perceiveth  malice 
"and  hatred  to  raigne,  untill  he  know  them  tour  re- 
"  concilcd :  and  that  of  two  pcrfons  wliich  are  at  va- 

*'  riancc 


(33°) 

Scft.  J .  "  nance,  that  one  of  them  be  content  to  forgive  the 
"other,  &c.  t\\eMi#i(ter  in  that  cafe  ought  to  admit 
the  penitent  per  fin  to  the  holy  Communion,  and  ftft  him 
that  is  obftinate . '  So  for  the  CA nous ,  they  runnc  thus. 

(;)Can.  \6.  «  (r)  No  Miniftcr  flvall  in  any  wife  admit  tothc  recci- 
"  vir.g  of  the  holy  Ctmmunion  any  of  his  Cure  which 
"  be  openly  known  to  live  in  finnc  notorious  without 
"  repentance  ;  nor  any  who  have  mnlicionfly  conten- 
"  dec!  with  their  neighbours,  untill  they  flvall  be  rc- 
."  conciled  ;  nor  any  Churchwardens  or  Stdcrnen,  who 
"  wilfully  incur  the  horrible  crime  of  pcrjurie,  in  not 

cnr-m  IT     "  preftming  as  they  oucht:nor(f)unto  any  that  rcfiifc 

V»/*-ant*7«  J  i     v      \  .  p  ill  i 

"  toxv;a/sortobe  prelent  at  pubhck  prayers  j  or  that 
"  be  open  depravers  of  the  Book  of  Common  Pray. 
"  'er ;  or  any  thing  contained  in  the  Book  of  Articles, 
"  or  the  Book  of  ordering  Prieftsand  Bifliops,  or  any 
"  that  have  depraved  his  Majefties  Soveraignc  au- 
**  thovityincaufcsEcclcfiaflicall,&c.  Hercisnorun- 
(t)  B)inti>nat;-  ning  to  the  Ordinary  (c)to  receive  direction  what  to  do, 
t*t?itn,<utdi(i.  l)liran  authority  left  unto  the  Vrieft  without  further 
'fTtmbi'ofdiia.  trouble  ;  and  more  than  fo,  (u)  a  cbtrge  itnpofed  upon 
'ry^c.p.-.ii.  him  not  to  do  the  contrary.  Onely  it  is  providc'd,  (») 
tyy*  }t''*ifer  that  every  Mini  ft  er  fa  repelling  J/iy ,  fyafl  on  complaint, 
drr.« J»><< cvi-  or  icing  required^  tAcOi'dinMWiJignififtbccMjcuH. 
*"*•  ^  to  hiw,.%nd  therein  obey  hit  Order  j;j>l  Direction.  There- 

(»;  c     11*7.  ;-w  upontij^.  poft-fjcl,  aftertherr/'f///*^,  andon  return 
o(t\\cCertifc4tC'yan'A  not  before, ;is  you  would  have  it: 
for  proof  whereof,  with  anunp.irulleld  kind  of  impu 
dence,  you  cite  thofe  very  CJHOMS  againft  thcmfclvcs. 
jt-r  But  fo  extreme  a  fpleene  you  have  againft  the  Clergie, 

that  upon  all  and  no  occaiions,you  labour  throughout 
your  Pamphlet ^  to  lay  them  open,  and  expofe  them  to 
the  contempt  and  fcorncofthe  common  people. 

Now 


H 


~13JV- 


was, 
youconfcfretheactionin 


Letter  wnU  cnnnh        dr       t         I 
and  Cathedrals/*  ,  /vW,  of  »*„„;„.  abo  u 
'  you 


wr 


ro  draw  C  .,/ 

ou  acknowledge  i 


lpacnobin 

«s  Do^Tr'r^^-^y-^'^'Cn 

HIC  uoctoi  ,  &  reckon  it  as  one  of  his  cytri  vi»  m 
(4.1u,  he  n,ould  charge  the  writer  for  SI  S  ft,.,,. 
^f'^'^cLppcIsandCathcdrlfS      ' 
"   ' 


,  Un  the  point 

'!•«  and  Canons  fin  that  point)  loo. 
,  .--Vy  t,«v«<y  ™  Au,    Which  faid,  you  tell  him     f 
c  fpccial  diffcrences(  which  he  knew  bcfore^m-.^. 
te?:2!5?  ^Wvcs,  bcwveene  cSj™^ 

*/  make  a  difierrnce  as  in 

•  n          •'  --—.-"•  niici  lucii  Jikc.whicli  therf* 

you  mftancc  in :  but  in  thofc  things  wherin  they  make 

no 


er 


Scft.  Jt     no  difference's  in  placing  of  the  table.  And  yctyoUare 
bcfides  the  r*/&/«*too,in  ftatingofthofc  very  differe- 
ccs,  which  your  fclfc  propofcth.  One  difference  that 
you  make  bctweene  them,  is  in  the  place  of  'reading 
the  Let  any  ;  which  if  officiated,  as  it  ought,  would  be 
found  no  difference.   You  know  that  in  Cathedrall 
Churches,  the  Let  Ante  is  faid  or  fung  in  the  middle  Q{ 
the  gvre,  where  Morning  and  Evening  Prayer  are 
appointed  to  be  faid:  and  you  may  know,  that  in  all 
I'srijl)  Churches  by  the  ^WT/W  Injunctions,  (which 
you  have  given  us  for  a  Ctnon}  tlie  Pricfts  with  ethers 
of  the  £i<irey  fidl  kneele  in  the  mid  ft  of  the  Church, 
(where  Morning  and  Evening  Praier  are  faid)andj?;;£ 
er  f.ty  plainly  and  dijlinltly  the  Letanic  fet  forth  i» 
EngliJ]).  Another  difference  that  you  makesis,that  C/r- 
tfxdrals  Are  excepted  from  delivering  to  the  Qiieenes 
Commiflioncrs  ,   the  Ornaments  And  Jewels  ef  their 
Churches  :  the  Articles  exprejly  naming  the  Church- 
wardens  of  every  Parijl)  onely.^  otto  take  notice  of  the 
fecjucleswhich  is  weak  and  wrefted,  we  will  reply  unto 
the  Faft,  and  tell  youplain!y,there  was  no  fuch  mat- 
tcr,as  deliver  ing  to  the  <£itee»s  Commifiioncrs,  theor- 
namcntsor  jewels  of  the  Parifh  Churches  jwhich  you 
.  would  gladly  thruft  upon  us.  All  that  you  finde  Cc)  irt 
the  lajunflron,  (to  which  you  fend  us)  is  that  the 
Church-wardens  of  every  Parifli,  fliall  deliver  unto 
the  VifitcrSjthc  Inventories  ok'  f'ejl  went  s,  copes,  and 
other  ornaments,PIate,liooks,cfpeciallyC7r4y//,&c. 
appertaining  to  their  Church.  You  fee  that  not  the 
0r#4Wrtrt/  thcmfclvcs,  but  the  Inventories  of  them, 
were  to  be  delivered  to  theQiecius  Ctwntifiitners* 
Nor  had  you  fo  exprelly  falfifwd  thtQuecus  lujuntfi- 
•n>  but  that  you  finde  the  piety  of  the  times  inclining 


to 


033) 

toadornethc  cAwrrAw.'jmd  you  would  fain  caftfbmc-  Cap. 
what  in  the  way  to  hinder  wcgoodwtrk  which  if  now 
in  hand ;  by  telling  thofe  which  love  to  hearc  it,  that 
in  the  reformation  mack  by  Qjeene  Elizabeth,  all  Or 
naments  were  tookcaway,  as  tending  unto  Pepery  and 
Sttpcrjlition. 

•Thclowcfl  difli  of  all,  as  leaftwoith  the  looking  af- 
tcr,is  an  extravagant  wildefowtejN\\\c\i  cither  hath  no 
name,  or  is::fliamedof  it.  The  Writer  of  the  Letter 
had  faid(d)imtothc  Vicar,  that  he  did  hope  be  had  more 
learning,  j ban  to  conceive  the  Lords  Table  toieea  new  7J« 
"  name,  and  fa  to  bee  afhamed  of  the  name.  1  his,  faith 
"  the  Doclour,  C^might  have  well  been  {pared,  there  ,t\  Cia>f  ,, 
"  being  none  fo  void  of  piety  and  undcritanding,as  to 
*£  be  fcandalizcd  at  the  name  oftlic  Lords  Tablets  are 
tc  foitic  men,it  fccmcs,  at  the  name  of  i/f /far,  faving 
'•  that  fomewhat  mt.fl  be  faid,to  perfwade  the  people 
•'  thatqueflionkfle  ftith  mcnthcre  \verc,the  better  to 
"indecre  the  m;ittcr.Now  you  reply,  to  the  laftcJaiife 
of  being  (cAndalizcd  and  ajbamcd  at  the  name  of  the 
Lords  Table  -,  tliat( f )  finely  of  that  kinde  there  are  too  /t- 
manyinthe  world,  fome calling  it  aprof.ine  T.tl/fe,  as  p. 
the  Khemijli  Bothers  an  oyjler-bciird,3nA  an  cyJlcr-taUe; 
the  Vicar,  ifhis  neighbours  charged  him  rightly,  a 
Trefle :  and  you  know  who  a  Drefler-t  \vhy  was  that 
Icftoutc'  This  faid,  you  fall  upon  the  Author  of  the 
Latine  determination,  onely  to  in  ike  the  man  fulpeft- 
cd  of  being  a  framed  of  the  name  of'T.iblc:  a~d  then 
upon  the  Church  (s)of/v<?w^,  cs  being  ( yon f.jy)tl-c 
true  AdverfAry^,  that  the  letter  ay med  at ,  for  !eavi:i<r 
out  ot  her  Canon  (in  the  Reformation  of  tlv-.V//'.'/// 
by  Pope  Pius  Qtintw)  this  very  name  of  he  /'oly 
TabU^  againft  the  fraclife  of  all  Antiytin,  and  pr<  ce 
de fit 


jt      dent  Liturgies.  But  Sir  confidcr  in  celd  blood,  that 
that  determination  came  not  out,  till  five  or  fix  yearcs 
after  the  Bithops  letter.  Your  fclfc  hath  given  it  for 
ngji.       a  rule,  ("•)  that  r.s  all  Prophets  are  not  Ordinaries,  fo  all 
Ordinaries. ire  not  Prophets  :and  therefore  certainly  the 
writer  of  the  letter  being  no  Prophet ,  as  you  fay, 
could  not  at  all  reflect  on  thisdetcrmination.  Then  for 
the  Church  of  .R0w<?,that  comes  inasidly  :  juftasthe 
Germans  were  brought  in,tobcatcdo\vncallthe  Al. 
tars  there  jbccaufe  the  Country  people  here  were  fcan- 
dalizcd  therewith  in  their  Parity  Churches.  Whether; 
the  Church  of  Rome  bee  afliamcd  or  not,  at  the  name 
ofTable^  is  not  matcriall  to  thispurpofc:  the  letter 
being  writ  in  Ftiglijl)^  and  fcattcrcd  up  and  downca. 
mongft  Englijlnncn  j  and  therefore  had  you  brought 
us  fomc  of  them, that  had  conceived  the  Ltrds  Table 
to  lea.nc\v  >M/we,or  were  tjbamed  thcreof,you  had  then 
done  well.  JVhtch  fincc  you  have  not  donc,bm  wan- 
cired  up  and  down  in  a  maze,orcirclc,from  page  192. 
..        ^      unto  197.  neither  the  writer  of  the  letter  then,  nor 
your  fclfe  now  have  caufe  to  iw/7;,(»Jthat  the  Lord f 
Ttiblcmay  not  be  conceived  to  be  A  new  name  j  ot  that  the 
good  works  in  b.i»d  (  as  fcornc fully  you  call  it)  make 
not  the  unlearned  fert  of  men  aftamcdofit.  Sothcn,you 
finde  not  any  yet  that  arc  afbamed  of  t\\cname  of  Ta 
ble-.  ' 


If 

Almr  ?  That  was  another  part  of  the  Dolors  charge, 

and  thereunto  you  anfwer  not  fo  much  as  boh.  What 
have  we  confitentem  rcum  ?  if  you  will  take  it  as  a  kind- 
Bj  nefle,  I  will  finde  one  f^r  yon.  Whatrhinke  you  of 

the  Minifter  otlincolnflnre^  let  him  be  the  man :  who 
being  ajliameAof  the  name  of^ltar^^nd  fearing  to 
wearc  out  his  htly  Table  with  too  often  rubbing ;  ex 
cogitated 


cogitated  that  fine  word  ntenftt,  to  exprefTc  thcni  Cap.  1O» 
both.  Now  that  he  was  afhamcd  of  the 


tar^you  rmy  feccxprcfly,p.io8.  For  citing 
from  S.  Hicrcme,  hee  ti  anlhtcs  it  S4»ttnary  j  and  ci- 
ting  $va*wv»trQmPalfad/ttSi  hetranflatesit  place.  A 
P.intery,LardcrjStore-houfe,Pigeon-hoiire,anVten- 
fil,  a  place,  a.  Sanctuary,  Judas  his  buggt^  any  thing.yea 
n  very  drcffcr,  To  it  be  no  ^  Itar. 

I  fee  you  will  bee  fcrvcdin  ftatc:  your  fccond 
courfe  being  tookc  away,  there  is  a  banquet  yet  re 
maining  ;  fume  fwcet  meats  from  Placcntia,  and  a 
piece  of  Parmcfun.  There  is  a  f  opulent  fiiccrent  in  the 
niainedifcoure,  and  an  ///  futrts  place.tr  in  the  orde 
ring  of  it  .-both  of  them  intermixt  fo  artificially,  that 
it  is  hard  to  bee  difccrned  ,  whether  of  the  t\vo  bee 
moft  predominant.  But  here,  you  give  itclearefor 
the  «t  popttlo,  yea  and  ut  mAgn«  in  popttlo  too,  to  make 
furethc  matter  mot  onely  juftifying  your  ownepoorc 
endeavours  in  that  kinde,  bnt  falling  foule  upon  tlic 
Dod^or,  becaufe  he  joines  not  with  you  in  the  under 
taking.  (*)  You  tell  us,  that  thc/r/?  Prcteftants  of  the  <k)  Pag-»oi, 
Reformation  bada  better  opinion  of  the  common  people  : 
and  that  t-hefrft  inducements  of  K  /'^Edward  And  hit 
moft  able  CeurHtlljortnuvt  the  Altars  and  place  holy 
Tables,  IVM  tt  root  tip  fttptrftttten  in  the  minda  ofthtfe 
(by  him,  the  Doctor,  fo  much  dtftifed~)  common  peeple. 
What  an  opinion  the  fird  Froti-flants  hadofthccom- 
inon  people,  is  notnowthequcftion,  but  whether  in 
their  labours  to  rcforme  the  Church,and  root  up  ftiper- 
jlttion^  they  had  relation  to  the  humour  orthe  people, 
or  the  glory  of  God.  If  you  could  fliew  us,  th.it  King 
Edrvara  and  his  moft  able  Citincdl,  (as  in  your  odious 
manner  of  comparifons  you  are  plcafed  to  ftilethem  ) 

aymed 


3 .  aymcd  at  this  oncly ,  in  that  aft  of  theirs,  f6puh  utpU- 
ccrcnt,  to  plcafc  the  people  :  you  had  faid  fomcwhat 
to  the  purpofe.  But  you  had  laidwithalla  greater 
fcandall  on  that  King,  and  his  fo  Able  Councctt^  than  all 
your  wit  and  learning  would  be  able  to  takeoff  again. 
If  not,  why  doe  you  bring  King  Edward  and  his  Able 
Counccll  tiponthc  ftagc,  asif  they  could  fay  fomcwhat 
in  your  defence,  when  they  had  no  fuch  meaning  as 
you  put  upotuhcm  '.  The  people  then,  as  it  appeared* 
in  the  ftory,  were  fo  aver fe  from  that  Aft  of  the  King 
fljv.Aflrand  ancj  Counfell,  that  they  were  faine  to  fee  out(0  ccr- 

mon.part  t.  /•  »         .  i  r       . 

p.yoo.  tame  courier  Attoits  to  prepare  them  to  it,  and  make 

them  ready  for  the  change,  which  they  meant  ro 
make.  Call  you  this  pleafing  of  the  people  ?  It  was 
indeed  pretended,  that  the  change  would  bee  for  the 
peoples  good,  and  to  root  up  fuperjlititri  out  of  their 
mindes:  out  nothing  leflfc  intendeid  than  the  peoples 
pleafurc.  An  honeft  care  that  all  things  maybedonc 


for  the  common  good,  for  training  up  the  people  in 
their  obedience  to  Gods  Commandcments,thc  Kings 
j lift  government,  and  the  Churches  orders  ;  no  man 
likes  better  than  the  Doctor.  If  this  will  pleafethe 
people,  take  me  with  you,  and  you  fliall  never  want  a 
£•'  fecond  to  aflifl:  you  in  it.  And  this  is  that  placentia 

which  the  Apoftle  hath  commended  to  usby  his  own 
(roj  i  COM*,  (m)  pra<ftife,tirft  j  /  plcafe,  faith  he,.t//wf»  in  all  things^ 
Nit  faking  wins  ownc  profit ,  but  tbeprtfit  of  many,  tuat 
Cn;Rom.ij.t  they  may  'be  (lived:  and  next  by  way  of  precept  (n)or 
direction,  Let  every  frjeplcjfi  hit  acigbbourfor  Ins  gfod 
to  edification.  If  you  obfervc  thcfc  rules,  and  lookc 
not  after  your  own  proh*t,applaufc,  or  popular  depen 
dencies  ;  buttlicedificationofthepeopleonely,  that 
they  may  bee  {wed  :  you  have  S.  Paul,  both  for  your 

warrant 


(337) 

warrant  and  example.  The  Do&orhadnot  faulted 
this  either  in  you,  orin  the  writcrof  the  letter,  had  he 
found  it  in  you.  But  on  the  other  fide,  there  is  a  plea- 
fug  fifularity  which  feme  mtn  affeft  j  an  art  to  feed 
the  peoples  humour,  that  they  thcmfelvcs  may  bee 
borne  up  and  hoifted  by  the  peoples  breath  :  and  this 
appearcth  every  where,  as  well  throiiglioiitth.it  let 
ter,  as  your  whole  difcourfc.  This  wasthcdileafeof 
(o)PiUte  in  the  \\o\yCcQicl.  Of  whom  it  is  recorded  ('OM^>! 
there,  that  to  fltafe  tht  people  >\K  rclcalcd  B.irrabjj  un 
it  thcm^and(ondernned  Jcfus  :  and  this  the  itch  of  Di- 
ttretbesfy'm  S.  Jthns  EpifUcs,who  loving  to  have  the  ^  •  ' 
prcncmincncc  amongft  ignorant  people,  difpavaged 
the  ^ftftlts,  and  prated  openly  .igjiuft  them  with 
W4licifw  n-trdf.  In  thefc  dcdgnes  to  court  the  (avoir. 
of  the  people,  by  calling  fcandals  on  the  Clnuvh, 
and  the  publikc  government  ;  and  by  that  meanes  to 
be  admired  and  honoured  for  a.ztjlotu  <jittnijlcr,and 


for  the  publikc  ;  for  a  (i)  <fy«n«'  *'»v> 

'    ' 


as  the  Hiftorian,  ora(')  Wiu2it*r&  and  fi>.iw<  in  the  /\l]p 
Orators  languagc,the  Dotfor  leaves  you  to  your  ft  U.  ,\<i  Nuo.. ' 
You  may  draw  after  you,if  you  pleale,(f)  '\mbid\\\A-  (.OUu-t. 
r#w  C9llegi«,&  hoc  genus  omne,  the  love  and  favour  of 
the  multitude  for  a  day  or  two  ;  but  you  will  findeita 
weak  ftaffc  to  relic  upon,  though  it  in.iy  ferve  to  pi-fTc 
VOUUp,and  make  you  think  your  fclfeto  be  Conie  p.  iv.it 
body,   The  Dodor  hath  no  fuch  defigr.es.and  there- 
forcnccds  not  take  thofecourfesiknowinsefpccially 
that  S.  Prfw/hathfaid,  that  if  I  yet  p  leafed  men  t !  ficuld 
net  be  the  fitv.w,  ofChrift,  Gal.  i  .10. 

But  ( * )  .^wrf/tffl  retttus  hie,  fjttf  nil  mol.it ur  iitepte. 
Vouthnt  did  never  any  thing  in  v»t/>,  except  a  little  for 
~iave  better  ftvidicdthofcdeep  points-tiivn 

A  *  t 

A  a  tliv 


>t      the  Apoftle  did  or  could: and  have  found  out  a  way  To 
to  fine  the  Lord,  that  you  may  plea fe  the  pttple  too. 
And  thcrfore  Mat  to  Sa/tto  P<ntlo,limpk  S./W,("I  hope 
you  can  remember  your  own  fweet  words)that  could 
not  fo  well  tin:e  it, as  to  ferve  two  M afters.  How" farre 
you  arc  the  fervantof  Chrift,  I  have  not  to  doc"lvithj 
look  you  to  that :  but  how  farre  you  have  laboured  to 
plcafethe  peoplc,that  I  can  tell  you  prefently  without 
more  ado.  What  made  you  undertake  this  Argument, 
being  for  ought  you  would  be  known  of,  no  party  in 
it :  was  it  to  (hew  your  zealcandJ&rv/Vfunto  C/;r///,or 
to  plea  fe  the  people  ?  What  mnkcsyou  fpeak  foilightly 
o(  the  Inftitution  of  Epifctpa'H power:  &  having  (poke 
fo  (lightly  of  it,what  makes  you  fpeakc  fo  doubtfully 
of  the  prcfcnt  government,as  if  al  things  were  carried 
with  anhighcr  hand  than  they  ought  to  be,rathcrwith 
can0tt/l)0t,  than  with  Canon  law  :  was  it  IQ  ferve  Chrijtt 
or  to  ple.tfe  the  people  ?  What  was  it  that  occafioned 
you  at  every  turne,  to  fpeake  fodefpicably  of  the 
Clirgie  ;  fi:l->je.fting  the  Priejt unto  his  Deacon,  to  the 
Churcb-ifardew  if  the  Farifl)  5  tying  him  frominter- 
mcdling  with  the  holy  Table,  and  from  debarring  any 
man  from  the  holy  Sacrament ;  wasitto/rrv*  Chrijt^ 
or  to  plctfe  the  people  ?  What  moved  you  to  deride  fo 
fcornefully  the  cotirfe  and  Orders  of  his  Majcfties 
C/'.^f//,duecled  onely  by  a  T)eauc  andfomxnj  Gentle 
men,  as  you  pleafe  to  flight  them  ;  and  throughout 
yoiir  whole  difcourfe,  to  make  a  May-gameat  the 
j'ictit  of  the  times,  nid  \\\c  good  werkc  of  uniformity 
\vhich  isflw  in  hand  :  was  it  to  fliew  your  xeale  to 
Chrtji,™  to  p/e^fe  the  people  ?  What  makes  you  plcade 
fo  faintly,  for  Lowing  at  the  Naweof  J  r  s  u  s,  fo  car- ' 
neftly  for  fitting  at  the  htly  Sacrament  5  what  makes 

you 


you  cavill,on  the  by,  at  the  Forme  of  Prayer,  ap-  Cap,  JO. 
pointed  by  the  Canon  to  bee  ufed  before  the  Sermon ; 
and  at  the  peoples  looking  .Eofl-ward  in  the  time  of 
Prayer,was  this  to  fervc  Chrift,  or  toplejfe  the  people ? 
The  like  may  bee  demanded  of  you  for  fcattering 
fuch  doubts  and  jealoufies  amongil  the  people,  as  if 
Religion  were  in  hazard,  and  that  the  outworks  onc- 
ly  were  now  taking  /'»,  that  fo  the  Adverfaric-s  of  the 
Gofpel,  might  come  more  ncere  to  plant  their  bat 
tery  againft  the  Fort  it  ft  If e  ?  Your  quarrell  at  the 
diftribution  of  the  Service  into  the  //rj?  and/rcW,as  if 
it  were  tin  imitation  of  the  two  MAjfes  ufed  of  old ;  hath 
fomcwhat  in  it  of  that  nature.  And  what  did  you  in. 
tend,  Tpray  you,  in  telling  us  what  an  opinion  the 
firft  Prot  eft  ants  had  of  the  common  people,  as  if  Re- 
ligion  had  beenc  altered,  and  Altars  changed  into 
Tables  ,by  a  kindeof  law,onely  to  feed  the  peoples  lui- 
raour,  who  had  before-hand,  as  you  f.iy,  beat  them 
down  de  facto :  was  not  this  done  to  ple>tfe  the  people  r 
Such  pleafers  of  the  peoples  humours,  wee  have  too 
many  in  this  Kingdome:  and  you,  I  takeir,  like  Mttta- 
tni  Curio  in  the  Poct,are  (")  momentum  reniw.  And  yec  (uJMomentu- 
you  might  have  done  all  this,  without  expofinc  the  i"6  *»•*,"••««"- 

rv    A  L  r  -cr  tui Curio rc- 

poorc  Doaor  to  the  common  fury:  as  if  lo  many  lumiucxii. 
(x)  prwifiexary  Saints  of  Cod,  fomany  nerves  andy/-  (x)PJi-»Ji. 
nerves  of  the  State,  fo  many  urmes  of  the  King  to  defend 
hu  friends^  and  off  end  his  enemies  ;  were  by  him  called 
injiornc  }:\n(.\fcrrvantofwit^  poore people.  Good  Sir,  a 
word  or  two  in  private.  Thinke  you  that  there  arc 
no  frovifitnary  Saints,  no  nerves  /indfi»ervesofthe^> 
State ,  none  of  the  Kings  <^frtnes  in  the  Towne  of 
Grantk.im  ?  and  yet(y)  theBiflioptcls  his  Vicar,  that  (y;o>i. >.';'. 
it  were  fitter  that  the  AlttrJhMlaftaridlablC'Wifath.'t* 

A  a  2  that 


Sc<5t  3 ,      *tjat  *fa  T*Me  h  (reeled  Alt  AT-  wife,  tt  trtuble\thc  poorc 
Towncof  Cranthnm.  The  Doctor  tookc  hisphrafe 
homtbettcf,  and  oncly  turned  tliofc  words  upon  him 
f  ifyoumarkt  it  wcll)\vhich  he  had  found  there  to  his 
hand.  Nor  arc  you  very  free  from  fo  great  a  faulr, 
in  calling  thofc proviftoujn  Saint s^fincwes^nd  nerves, 
"*lv  ''''?*    and  Armes>  'he  ^  rude  people  of  Grtntham.'  Or  if  you 
uji,^/c!lZp    needs  will  make  him  tncanc  it  of  the  people  gene- 
»*  ",-t  mff    rally,tdl  nice,  1  pray  you  what  is  the  difference  (  for 
Kone&c.f.c.    j  j.now  jr  not^  between  the  people  and  the /«£;>#/. 
If  none,  as  furely  none  there  is,  how  durft  your  ma- 
.thcrs  (onntin  fuch  A  State  as  thi<,  in  fucb  a  Church  & 
\\\h,andttfHl(rfucb  A  fnnct ,  fo  beloved  M  /A/V,  call  the 
faid  Stints,  (^irmest  Nerves,  and  Siveives,  for  n^nt  tf 
'i-  )w>,  or  fomt thing  elfc,  (a)  poore  Subjects  ?  his  truea 
)     yoinnake  them  fairc  amends,  by  giving  them  fomc 
fccrct  notice  ,  of  their  authority  and  pow^r  in  the 
ro«i',cJ*f.p.4>.    civill  government :   concluding  that  cxtrav.ignncic 
^b)pa£.i*i.     with  the  (b)  obf(rv4tio»ofa»  Heathen  man,  irafcift- 
fnlo  Rom tno  ntmo  (lipi enter  potcjl.    Kut  Sir,  I  hope 
you  do  not  make  your  pocre  Subjects  in  I'.vgUnd^  any 
way  u|uall  to  the  people  in  the  State  of  Rowe^  who 
were  Jo  formidable  at  that  time  to  all  Kings  and 
(Oiuftin.!»iA.  ^rinccs,  (c)«/  ijH.ift  ntftii  cj/ct  rcgcm tlifjuem  \n.\ta  eo- 
rum  tcrmitios  b.ilcrt.  The  fn]>rcmt  M<i\(fty  ot  the  State, 
was  in  the  peoplcat  that  time,  when  this  fpeech  was 
nfed  :  and  (o  yOur  application  of  it  in  this  place  and 
time,  mud  needs  be  either  very  foolifli,or  extremely 
factious. 

To  come  unto  the  end  of  all,  you  clofc  your  Rra- 
ders  ftomacke  with  the  difcovery  fd)  of  the  Vetton 
.  ignerAnce\i\  his  foolifl)  definition  of  the  Diptychs/'»  the 
Primitive  Church  :  whicbntmAfljiS  you  Jay,iv/;0  could 

with 


with  tit  ltd}  tf  A  Lexicon,  hwiknmntbt  *'**'*£  4^  Cap 
/£*  ir  W,  »*«/*/  ft/fr  have  offered  (in  this  leArned  Age) 
to  have  irnpt  fed  upon  bis  Rf  Aalers.  Howfo?  Marry  lay 
you,  he  hath  denned  the  Drptycbr  to  be  the  ccmmemt- 
ration  of  theft  famous  Prelate; ,   and  tt  her  perfons  of 
chitfenote,  rvhich  h.id  departed  in  the  faith.  This  faid, 
you  fall  into  a  long  and  mod  impertinent  difcoiuTe, 
touching  the  nature  ofthefi1.  D/^fjfffo  $  oncly  to  (hew 
the  Dottors  ignorance^  and  your  molt  cxtraordinaric 
parts  in  matter  of  Antiquitie.  The  Doftor  found  at 
firft  what  hcc.wasto  trt.ft  ro:  nothing  throughout 
your  whole  difcourfe,  but  cutting  off  his  words,  and 
mif- re  porting  of  his  meaning.    Sometimes  you  cut 
him  off  when  and  where  you  lift,  not  fufTcring  him 
to  fpcuke  what  he  hath  a  minde  to,  in  which  refpecl 
you  may  be  called  the  Doctors  hrtchct^  f  W  f'p%T  tiyr 
x*™^  («j  as  I'hocion  in  another  fenfe,  was  by  Demo/l-  ff)p 
hencs.  Here  you  report  his  words  aright,  which  you 
do  not  often  j  but  then  moft  fliamcfully  mif- report 
his  meaning.  The  Doctor  doth  not  there  lay  downe 
zdffiwtitnol  the  Diptych,  as  you  fal  fly  charge  him  ; 
but  oncly  doth  expound  the  word,  as  it  muted  to 
the  cafe  which  was  then  in  h:ind.  You  may  ranem- 
ber,  that  the  Bifhop  had  fcnt  the  r/V«irunto  liifliop 
Jewels  Ic-arn  how  long  CimnntnitHTaMcs  had  flood  in 
the  middle  of  the  (  hurch:  am!  Hifl-,op  Mr^/tels  him  ofa 
palTngc  in  the /?///&  Councell  of  Conjt.intiuople,  \\-\\tvc\t 
was  iaidsthat  ttmpore  Diftychorum  cuctirrit  ontnis  mul 
titude,  cummAgno  {lientio  cnctiwcirc.t  <^4lt,ire:   i.e. 
faith  he,  When  the  Lt(fc»  or  Chapter  was  A  reading,  the 
tecple  withfilence  drew  together  round,  about  the  (^4 /tar. 
Notv  when  the  Doctor  comes  to  fcan  this  portage, 
not  taking  any  notice  of  this  miftake  in  Bifliop  lewdt 
A  a  3  he 


-t- 


Sc&.  3.  "  hcc  concludes  it  thus.  (f)  So  that  for  all  isfaidin 
^QC«.',P.JJ:  "the  &h\\Cottnc(UofConftAntinoj>lc,  the  Alt  AY  might 
"  and  did  (land  at  the  end  of  the  Cbaiueff,  although 
"  the  people  came  together  about  it ,  to  hcarc  the 
f<  T>iptycb$ ;  i.e.  the  commemoration  of  thofe  Prc- 
"  Kites,  and  other  perfons  of  chiefe  note,  who  had 
.  ^departed  in  the  faith.  This  you  report  to  be  his 
aefaitiott  ofiheDtptycbs  j  averyjW///>  one,  you  fay  j 
atidfwlijl)  it  had  beene  indeed,  had  it  been  laid  down 
there  for  a  definition.  But  did  you  marke  it  as  you 
fliould,you  would  have  found  that  it  was  never  meant 
fora  difiaU.iotto^ the  Diptycbs generally 5  butonely 
for  an  exposition  of  the  word,as  in  that  place  ufed:to 
fliewthc  Reader  what  it  was,  which  all  the  people 
came  about  the  Altur  to  hcare  rehearfcd.  For  if  you 
(-)  Aft.  look  into  the(K)C<v//;<Y#}  you  wil  find  it  thus;  fir  ft  that 
the  people  came  together  about  the  Alt.tr  to  hear  the 

"the  recital  being  only  made  of  the  four  \\o\yOecumc- 
"  »;V4//Synods,as  alfo  ofthc  Archbifhops  of  bleffed 
"memory,  Enpbcmius,  Macedw/ut>ai\d  Leo,  the  peo- 
*•'  pic  with  a  loud  voice  made  this  acclamation,  rt&9*t 
"  wkt,  Glery  be  to  the.e  O  Lord.  This  is  the  truth  ofthc 
relation  in  that  Counccll.  And  1  would  fainc  learnof 
you,  being  fo  great  a  Clerke,  how  you  can  fault  the 
Do^or  for  his  expofition  of  the  word  i^-^m^,  in  that 
|;i  place  &  timc:\vhen  there  was  only  read  C^f**w^*«^) 

s|:  the  commemoration  of  thofe' Prelates,  Leo,  Euphc- 

minf,  an(.\(j}[ftcc(lofiiw,  and  other  perfons  of  chiefe 
],).  note,  thofe  which  had  had  their  intereft  in  the  faid 

fourc Councels,  which  were  y.\\  dupArtedinthc faith. 
You  were  ncere  driven  to  fecke  a  concluding  quar- 
rcll,  when  you  pitched  on  this.  Oncly  you  were  rc- 

folvcd 


«h  v  .     hyc  we  fo  ing 

why  doc  wcenvy  oncanothcr,  ifthctl,IC  WorS  of 
the  Lord  be  grown  more  perfc^  in  our  rimes,  t£nfc 
was  before?  Let  us  enjoy  our  ownc  felicity  and  o  m' 
^  maim,  nc  that  truth  4ich  we  are  poflS  OT    c 
fupcrmt,o  be  reftnined,impiety  expand  true  I  el 
gionkem  inviolablc.This  iAvedo  cndcVour  i  o  ,  f, 


s. 


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