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COMMODITY  FUTURES  IMPROVEMENTS 
ACT  OF  1989 


HEARINGS 

RKFORIt  niX 

SUBCOMMITTEE  ON  CONSERVATION,  CREDIT, 
AND  RlTKAi  DEVELOPMENT 

or  THE 

COMMITTEE  ON  AGRICULTIIKE 
HOUSE  OP  REPRESENTATIVES 

ONE  HUNDRED  FIRST  CONGRESS 

FIRST  SESSION 

ON 

H.R.  2869 


JULY  18  AND  2«.  1989 


Serial  No.  101-26 

OS  «Ba«r.  wl» 


Printed  for  the  use  of  the  Committee  on  Agriculture 


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COMMODITY  FUTURES  IMPROVEMENTS 
ACT  OF  1989 


HEARINGS 

BEFORE  THE 

SCBCOMMITTBB  ON  CONSERVATION,  CREDIT, 
AND  KUEAL  DEVELOPMENT 

OFTHK 

COMMITTEE  ON  AGEICULTUEE 
HOUSE  OF  EEPKBSENTATIVES 

ONE  HUNDRED  FIRST  CONGRESS 


H.R.  2869 


JULY  18  AND  20,  1989 


Serial  No.  101-26 


Printed  for  the  use  of  the  Committee  on  Agricultur 


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COMMITTEE  ON  AGRICULTURE 
E  IKIKA)  DE  LA  GARZA.  Texas.  Chairmon 


WALTER  B,  JONES.  North  Carolina 
GEORGE  E  BROWN.  Jr.,  California 
CHARLES  ROSE,  North  Carolina 
■GLENN  ENGLISH.  Oklahoma 
LEON  E.  PANETTA.  California 
JERRY  HUCKABY,  Louisiana 
DAN  GLICKMAN,  Kansas 
CHARLES  W  STENHOLM,  Texas 
HAROLD  L.  VOLKMER.  Missouri 
CHARLES  HATCHER.  Georgia 
ROBIN  TALLON.  South  Carolina 
HARLEY  O  STAGGERS,  Jr..  West  ViTginiH 
JIM  OLIN.  Virginia 
TIMOTHY  J.  PENNY,  Minnesota 
RICHARD  H.  STALUNGS.  Idaho 
DAVID  R.  NAGLE,  Iowa 
JIM  JONTZ,  Indiana 
TIM  JOHNSON.  South  Dakota 
CLAUDE  HARRIS.  Alabama 
BEN  NIGHTHORSE  CAMPBELL,  Colorado 
MIKE  ESPY,  Mississippi 
BILL  SARPAUUS.  Texas 
JILL  L.  LONG,  Indiana 
ROY  DYSON,  Maryland 
H.  MARTIN  LANCASTER.  North  Carolina 


EDWARD  R   MADIGAN.  Illinois. 

Hanking  Minority  Member 
E.  THOMAS  COLEMAN.  Missouri 
RON  MARLBNEE.  Montana 
LARRY  J,  HOPKINS,  Kentucky 
ABLAN  STANGELAND,  Minnesoti 
PAT  ROBERTS.  Kansas 
BILL  EMERSON.  Missouri 
SJD  MORRISON.  Washington 
STEVE  GUNDERSON,  Wisconsin 
TOM  LEWIS,  Borida 
ROBERT  F.  IBOBI  SMITH,  Orvgon 
LARRY  COMBEST.  Texas 
BILL  SCHUETTE,  Michigan 
FRED  GRANDY,  Iowa 
WALLY  HERGER,  California 
CLYDE  C.  HOLLOWAY.  Uniisians 
JAMES  T.  WALSH,  New  York 
BILL  GRANT.  Florida 


pROPEssioNAL  Staff 

BebT  R.  PeSa.  Staff  Director 

Daniel  E.  Brinza,  Couiael 

ChaSLeS  HiLTY.  Minority  Staff  Director 

James  A.  Daves,  Presi  Secretary 


Subcommittee  on  CoNaERVATtON,  Crbdit,  and  Rural  Development 
GLENN  ENGLISH,  Oklahoma.  CAoimwn 


ROBIN  TALLON,  South  Carolina 

TIMOTHY  J,  PENNY,  MinnesoU 

RICHARD  H  STALLINGS.  Idaho 

DAVID  R.  NAGLE,  Iowa 

CLAUDE  HARRIS.  Alabama 

HARLEY  O.  STAGGERS,  Jii..  West  Virginia 

MIKE  ESPY,  Mississippi 

BILL  SARPAUUS.  Texas 

JILL  L.  LONG,  Indiana 


E.  THOMAS  COLEMAN,  Missouri 
SID  MORRISON,  Washington 
STEVE  GUNDERSON.  Wisconsin 
LARRY  COMBEST.  Texas 
FRED  GRANDY,  Iowa 
CLYDE  C.  HOLLOWAY,  I 


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CONTENTS 


JULT  18,  1989 


H.R.  2869,  a  bill  to  amend  the  Commodity  Exchange  Act  to  improve  the 
regulation  (^  futures  and  options  traded  under  rules  and  regulations  of  the 
Commodity  Futures  Tradiiu  Coromisston,  establish  registration  standards 
for  all  exchange  floor  traders,  restrict  practices  which  may  lead  to  the 
abuse  of  outside  customen  itf  the  marketplace,  reinfbrce  development  of 
exchange  audit  trails  to  better  enable  the  detection  and  prevention  of  such 
practices,  eatatilish  higher  standards  for  service  on  governing  boards  and 
disciplinary  committees  of  self-regulatory  organizations,  enhance  the  inter- 
national regulation  of  futures  trading,  regularize  the  process  of  authorizing 
appropriations  for  the  Commodity  Futures  Trading  Commission,  and  for 
other  purposes... 


Reports  from  Commodity  Futures  Trading  Commisi 
Report  from  U.S.  Department  of  Justice... 


Coleman,  Hon.  E.  Thomas,  a  Representative  in  Congress  from  the  State  of 
Missouri,  opening  statement 

English,  Hon.  Glenn,  a  Representative  in  Congress  from  the  State  of  Oklaho- 
ma, opening  statement 

"       "'      '         "  '  ■■      '  1  Congress  from  the  State  of  Ala- 


Beurskens,  Frank,  on  behalf  of  the  National  Grain  and  Feed  Association 

Prepared  statement 

Braude,  Michael,  president  and  chief  executive  offlcer,  Kansas  City  Board  of 
Trade.. 


Prepared  statement ... 


1,  Wendy  L.,  Chairman,  Commodity  Futures  Trading  Commission... 

Prepared  statement 

Letter  of  August  15,  1989.... 


Guttman,  Z.  Lou,  chairman  of  the  board  of  directors.  New  York  Mercantile 
Exchange.... 


Prepared  statement 

Letter  of  July  21, 1989 

Smith,  Hon.  Neal,  a  Representative  in  Congress  from  the  State  of  Iowa.... 
Prepared  statement 


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Eni^iah,  Hon.  Glenn,  a  Reprenntatm  in  Congraw  frim  the  State  of  Okltiho- 
ma,  opening  statement 

WiTNnsn 

Danker,  Dave,  vice  president  and  general  manager.  Buchheit  Grain,  Inc 

Prepared  statement 

Predrickson,  John  L.,  partner,  KentUnd  Eaevator  and  Supply,  Inc 

Prepared  statement 

"  1,  Sanford  J.,  profeaaor,  department  irf  economics,  Princeton  Univer- 


nty^.... 


_  repared  statement 

Joaaerand,  Robert  D.,  preddent,  Natitntal  Cattlemen's  Association ~ 

Prepared  statement „ _.... 

Kane,  Joaeph  J.,  floor  broker,  Chicago  Board  of  Trade ,..«».».,. -.,..„.,... 

Prepared  statement _.„._ _ „. 

Lebeck,  Warren,  on  behalf  of  the  National  Grain  Trade  Council 

Prepared  statement „.„.„...«,..».>.»».^. 

Lindau,  James  H.,  president,  Minneapolis  Grain  Exchange _..»^ 

Prepared  statement - «»—.„«„.«.... 

Hahlmano,  Karsten,  chairman,  Chicago  Board  of  Trade „.^ „. 

Prepared  statement - 

Melamed,  Leo,  chairman  of  the  executive  committee  and  special  counoel  to 
the  board,  Qiicago  Mercantile  Exchange 

Prepared  statement 

Weems,  Ralph,  farmer,  former  president,  American  Soybean  Association 

Wibnouth,  Robert  K.,  president.  National  Futures  Aseodation 

Prepared  statement ^ 

SuBMrrrxD  Matkbial 

Cheatham,  linn,  vice  president,  Logan  County  Farm  Enterpriaes,  Inc.,  letter 

of  July  10, 1989 

Clancy,  Gerald  P.,  cocoa  purchasing  director,  M&M,  Mare,  Inc.,  letter  of 

July  11,  1989 

Conlin,  Donald  B.,  chairman  of  the  board,  New  York  Cotton  Exchange,  letter 

of  July  26, 1989 

Dyer,  Daniel  L.,  partner,  B.  W.  Dyer  and  Co.,  letter  of  July  18,  1989 

Felton,  Douglas,  president,  Amerop  Trading  Corp.,  letter  of  July  31, 1989 

Flegenheimer,  Mark,  vice  president,  Amerop  Sugar  Corp.,  letter  of  July  31, 

1989 

Haller,  RJ.,  president,  Czarnikow  Futures  Inc.,  letter  of  July  25.  1989 

Huber,  Daniel  R.,  group  vice  president,  Carrall  Inc.,  statement 

Lawrence,  Gary  D.,  managing  director,  J.P.  Morgan  Futures,  Inc.,  letter  of 

July  14, 1989 

Lucas,  Joe,  merchandiser,  Penwright  Grain  Co.,  letter  of  June  29, 1989 

Vogel,  Sarah,  agriculture  conuniaeioner,  North  Dakota,  statement 

Stone,  Matthew,  president,  Weetway  Merkuria  Corp.,  letter  of  July  31, 1989 .... 
Wildin.  Doug,  letter  of  July  26,  19M 


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COMMODITY  FUTURES  IMPROVEMENTS  ACT  OF 

1989 


TUESDAY,  JULY  18,  1989 

House  of  Representatives, 

Subcommittee  on  Conservation, 
Credit,  and  Rural  Development, 

Committee  on  Agriculture, 

Washington,  DC 
The  subcommittee  met,  pursuant  to  notice,  at  10  a.m.,  in  room 
1302,  Longworth  House  C^ce  Building,  Hon.  Glenn  English  (chabv 
man  of  the  subcommittee)  presiding. 

Present:  Representatives  Tallon,  Penny,  Stalling,  Naele,  Harris, 
Stagers,  Espy,  Sarpalius,  Long,  Coleman,  Morrison,  Gunderson, 
Combest,  Grandy,  and  Holloway. 

Also  present:  Representative  E  (Kilca)  de  la  Garza,  chairman  of 
the  committee,  and  Representative  Glickman,  member  of  the  com- 
mittee. 

Staff  present:  Bert  R.  Peiia,  stftff  director;  Daniel  B.  Brinza,  coun- 
sel; Fred  J.  Clark,  associate  counsel;  Joseph  Muldoon,  assistant 
counsel;  John  E.  Hogan,  minori^  counsel;  Alice  Devine,  minority 
associate  counsel;  Glenda  L.  Temple,  clerk;  Bill  Cherry,  Jim 
McDonald,  James  A.  Davie,  and  David  Ebersole. 

OPENING  STATEMENT  OF  HON.  GLENN  ENGLISH,  A  REPRESENTA- 
TIVE IN  CONGRESS  FROM  THE  STATE  OF  OKLAHOMA 

Mr.  Engush.  The  hearing  will  come  to  order.  Last  February 
Chairman  de  la  Garza  directed  this  subcommittee  to  conduct  an  in- 
quiry into  the  futures  r^ulatory  structure  before  taking  up  any  re- 
authorization bills. 

The  work  plan  that  we  developed  started  with  this  statement: 

The  purpoee  of  the  inquiry  is  to  provide  a  sound  factual  basis  for  the  Congreaa  to 
use  while  considering  the  need  for  changes  in  futures  industry  operations  and  regu- 
lation. The  ultimate  goat  is  to  assure  the  int^rity  of  these  markets. 

The  subcommittee  has  provided  the  sound  factual  beisis  during 
the  past  5  months  through  the  pubUc  briefingB  by  our  staff.  Today 
we  begin  hearings  aimed  at  the  ultimate  goal.  The  bill  that  Con- 
gressmen Coleman,  Tim  Penny,  and  I  introduced  last  week  makes 
drastic  changes  in  some  of  the  trading  practices,  especially  in  dual 
trading. 

The  bill  restricts  the  practice  of  a  floor  broker  trading  for  both 
his  own  account  and  that  of  customers,  known  as  dual  trading. 

The  bill  restricts  broker  associations  so  they  cannot  do  as  a 
group  what  each  member  cannot  do  alone. 
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The  bill  eatablishee  very  strict  goals  which  will  improve  the  abili- 
ty of  the  r^^ators  to  detect  trafUng  abuses. 

The  bill  provides  retail  customers  with  additional  protection 
against  fraudulent  sales  practices. 

The  bill  requires  changes  in  the  disciplinary  committee  and  the 
governing  board  practices  to  reduce  the  chance  for  conflicts  of  in- 
terest   

The  bill  encourages  CFTC  to  take  the  lead  in  initiating  undercov- 
er operations. 

The  bill  requires  registration  of  floor  traders,  which  means  that 
every  category  in  the  industry  will  now  be  registered. 

The  bill  puts  teeth  in  the  collection  of  civil  penalties  Etssessed  by 
the  CFTC,  and  it  provides  for  nationwide  service  of  process  and 
venue. 

The  bill  establishes  a  process  of  cooperation  with  foreign  futures 
authorities. 

Taken  together,  these  provisions  meet  the  ultimate  goal  of  our 
work  plan — to  provide  assurance  about  the  integrity  of  the  Ameri- 
can futures  markets. 

I  look  forward  to  hearing  our  witnesses. 

[H.R.  2869,  the  reports  from  the  Commodity  Futures  Trading 
Commission  and  U.S.  Department  of  Justice  follow;  the  hearing 
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H.R.2869 


To  iDMDd  the  Comnwdity  Excbuige  Act  to  improve  the  reguUtkm  ot  futures  ud 
optioiu  traded  under  rules  and  reguluiona  of  the  Commodity  Futurei  Trad- 
ing Commiasioii,  eitablidi  teginnition  itandardi  for  all  exchange  floor  trad- 
ers, restrict  practices  which  ma;  lead  to  the  abuse  of  outside  cuBlomers  of 
the  marketplMe,  reinforw  development  of  exchange  audit  trails  to  better 
enable  the  detection  and  prevention  of  such  practices,  establish  higher  itaod- 
ards  for  service  on  governing  boards  and  disciplinary  committees  of  self- 
regulatory  organizatjons,  enhance  the  international  regulation  of  futures  trad- 
ing, regularize  the  process  of  authorizing  appropriations  for  the  Coounodity 
Futures  Trading  Conmission,  and  for  other  purposes. 


m  THE  HOUSE  OF  REPRESENTATIVES 

JULI  12,  1S89 

Hr.  Enolibh  (for  bunself,  Hr,  Colbhan  of  Uissouri,  and  Ur.  Pbnny)  mtroduoed 

the  following  bill;  which  was  referred  to  the  Committee  on  Agriculture 


A  BILL 

To  amend  the  Commodity  Exchange  Act  to  improve  the  regula- 
tion of  futures  and  optiona  traded  imder  rules  and  regula- 
tjona  of  the  Commodity  Futures  Trading  Commission,  es- 
tablish  registration  standards  for  all  exchange  floor  traders, 
restrict  practices  which  may  lead  to  the  abuse  of  outside 
customers  of  the  maiketplace,  reinforce  development  of  ex- 
change audit  tnuls  to  better  enable  the  detection  and  pre- 
vention of  such  practices,  establish  higher  standu'ds  for 
service  on  governing  boards  and  disciplinary  committees  of 
self-regulatoiy  organizations,  enhance  the  international  reg- 
ulation of  futures  trading,  regularize  the  process  of  authoriz- 


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ing  appropriations  for  the   Coniinodity  Futures   Trading 
Commisaion,  and  for  other  purposes. 

1  Be  it  enacted  by  the  Senate  and  House  of  Representa- 

2  title*  of  the  United  Statea  of  America  in  Congress  assemhUd, 
8    SECTION  I.  SHORT  TITLB;  TABLE  OP  CONTENTS. 

4  (a)  Shobt  Title. — This  Act  may  be  cited  as  the 

5  "Commodity  Futures  LnprovemeDts  Act  of  1989". 

6  (b)  Table  of  Contents. — The  table  of  contenta  is  as 

7  follows: 

TABLE  OF  CONTENTS 

9«c.  1.  Shan  tills;  t&ble  ol  coDteati. 

TITLE  I— LDOTATIONS  ON  CEBTAIN  TBADINO  PBACTICB8 

Sm.  101.  Dull  trading. 

Sm.  102.  Trading  unong  mambert  o(  bnAer  inociatioiu. 


Sec.  201.  Audil  truU. 

Sec.  202.  Talamuketiiig  bvud. 

Sec.  203.  TJnderoDTer  operttiDiu  md  enforceoKHL 

Sec.  201.  SeU   reguUtoi;   i 

Sbc  206.  Kequired  nigiMnliiai  o(  floor  tnden. 

Soc  206.  Enhutcaniflnt  lA  regiitTEtion  reqnirementi. 

See.  307.  EnfoTcnHml  ti  ciyil  mmiij  penaltiei. 

See.  SOB.  Elhin  (nining  for  ingiimnti. 

See.  309.  NKtionwide  lenriGe  at  proeen  and  venue. 

TTTLE  m— A88ISTAKCE  TO  FOKEION  FUTURES  AUTHORITIEB 

Sec.  SOI.  Definition  of  foreign  futarei  autborit;. 

Sec  S02.  Subpoena  authority. 

Sec.  303.  Cooperation  with  forogn  future!  aulboritiei. 

Sec.  304.  InveitigatiTe  amitance  to  foreign  future!  authoritiea. 

See.  SOS.  Diielomre  of  iidramatioB  receired  btan  foreign  fnturel  aotlioriliei. 

See.  S06.  DitehMure  of  intoimation  to  fordgn  future!  aulboritie!. 


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1  TITLE  I— LIMITATIONS  ON  CERTAIN  TRADING 

2  PEACTICBS 
8  SEC  101.  DUAL  TRADING. 

4  (a)  Pbohibition. — Section  4j(l)  of  the  Commodity  Ex- 

6  change  Act  (7  n.S.C.  6j)  is  amended  to  read  as  follows: 

6  "(IHA)  The  Commissioii  shall  issue  regulations  to  pro- 

7  hilnt  dual  trading  by  a  floor  broker  in  an;  contract  market  in 

8  which  the  Commission  has  determined  the  average  daily 

9  trading  volume  to  be  equal  to  or  greater  than  the  threshold 

10  trading  level  established  pursuant  to  this  paragraph.  For  the 

1 1  purposes  of  this  subsection,  the  threshold  trading  level  shall 

12  be  seven  thousand  contracts,  based  on  a  siz-monUi  moving 
18  average  of  the  number  of  contracts  traded  on  such  contract 

14  market.  However,  if  the  Commission  determines  that  the 

15  prohibition  agtunst  dual  trading  creates  undesirable  price  vol- 

16  atility,  unacceptable  widening  of  bid-ask  spreads,  or  other- 

17  wise  threatens  the  public  interest,  the  Commission  may  in- 

18  crease  or  decrease  the  threshold  trading  level  for  such  specif- 

19  ic  contract  market.  Any  action  by  the  Commission  to  adjust 

20  the  tiireshold  trading  level  of  a  contract  market  pursuant  to 

21  this  paragraph  shall  be  reported  to  the  Committee  on  Agri- 

22  culture  of  the  House  of  Representatives  and  the  Committee 

23  on  Agriculture,  Nutrition,  and  Forestry  of  the  Senate  not 

24  later  than  three  days  after  the  Commission  ti^es  such  action. 


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1  "(B)  If  the  ComnusBion  has  not  detenniBed  to  prohibit 

2  dual  trading  in  a  contract  market  pursuant  to  paragraph  (C), 

3  the  regulations  issued  by  the  Conunission  to  implement  para- 

4  graph  (A)  for  such  contract  market  shall — 

5  "(i)  define  the  term  'dual  trading'; 

6  "(ii)  specify  the  methodology  by  which  the  Com- 

7  mission    shall   detennine    the    average    daily   trading 

8  volume  of  contracts  on  a  contract  market; 

9  "(iii)  provide  for  transition  measures,  as  deter- 

10  mined  necessary  by  the  CommisBion  to  prevent  market 

11  disruption  or  to  protect  the  public  interest,  for  a  con- 

12  tract  market  when  the  average  daily  tradmg  volume  on 
18  such  contract  market  mcreases  to  or  above,  or  de- 

14  creases  below,  the  threshold  trading  level; 

15  "(iv)  provide  that  a  floor  broker  m&y  dual  trade  in 

16  a  newly  designated  contract  market  until  the  average 

17  duly  trading  volume  on  such  contract  market  has  in- 

18  creased  to  or  above  the  threshold  trading  level; 

19  "(v)  provide  for  limited  exceptions,  as  the  Com- 

20  mission    determines    necessary,    to    the    prohibition 

21  against  dual  trading  required  by  paragraph  (A)  so  that 

22  a  broker  may  execute  spread  trades  for  such  floor  bro- 

23  ker's  own  account  or  trade  for  such  floor  broker's  own 

24  account  for  a  brief  period  at  the  opening  of  the  market 


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1  in  order  to  settle  errors  in  trades  made  by  such  broker 

2  on  such  account  on  &  previous  trading  day; 

3  "(vi)  provide  that  a  Qoor  broker  affected  by  para- 

4  graph  (A)  shall  indicate  prior  to  the  opening  of  trading 

5  for  any  given  day  whether  such  floor  broker  shall  trade 

6  solely  for  such  broker's  own  account  or  solely  for  cus- 

7  tomers'  accounts  for  the  entire  trading  day,  with  limit- 

8  ed  exceptions  as  determined  by  the  Commission  pursu* 

9  ant  to  subparagraphs  (v)  and  (vii);  and 

10  "(vii)  provide  that  a  customer  may  designate  an 

11  individual   floor  broker   to   execute   such   customer's 

12  orders  for  future  delivery  and  trade  for  such  broker's 

13  own  account,  notwithstanding  the  provisions  of  para- 

14  graph  (A),  if  such  customer,  not  less  than  once  annual- 

15  ly,  executes  a  written  form  designating  such  broker  by 

16  name. 

17  Such  regulations  may  also  provide  that  if  the  average  daily 

18  trading  volume  on  a  contract  market  increases  to  or  above,  or 

19  decreases  below,  the  threshold  trading  level,  any  change  in 

20  the  status  or  dual  trading  otherwise  required  by  paragraph 

21  (A)  may  be  delayed  or  suspended  if  the  Commission  deter- 

22  mines  that  such  increase  or  decrease  is  a  temporary,  unusud 

23  occurrence. 

24  "(C)  Notwithstanding  paragraphs  (A)  and  (B),  Uie  Com- 

25  mission  shall,  as  it  determines  necessary,  make  a  detennina- 


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1  tion  from  time  to  time,  by  rule,  regulatioii,  or  order,  whether 

2  or  not  dual  trading,  as  that  term  may  be  defined  in  regular 
8  tionB  issued  by  the  Commission,  by  a  floor  broker  may  be 

4  allowed  in  contract  markets  where  such  trading  is  not  prohib- 

5  ited  pursuant  to  paragraph  (A).  If  the  Commission  detemuDes 

6  that  dual  trading  by  a  Soar  broker  shall  be  permitted,  the 

7  Commission  shall  further  determine  the  terms,  conditions, 

8  and  circumBtances  under  which  such  dual  trading  shall  be 

9  conducted.  Any  such  determination  shall,  at  a  minimum,  take 

10  into  account  the  effect  of  dual  trading  upon  the  hquidity  of 

11  trading  in  each  market.  Nothing  in  this  subsection  shall  be 

12  construed  to  prohibit  the  Commission  from  making  separate 

13  detfirminations  for  different  contract  markets  when  such  are 

14  warranted  m  die  judgment  of  the  Commission,  or  to  prohibit 

15  contract  markets  from  setting  terms  and  conditions  more  re- 

16  strictive  than  those  set  by  the  Commission. 

17  "(D)  The  Commission  shall  issue  an  order  to  exempt  a 

18  board  of  trade  from  the  provisions  of  paragraph  (A)  if  such 

19  board  of  trade  can  demonstrate  to  the  Commission  that  such 

20  board  of  trade's  audit  trail  (i)  can  detect  any  and  all  mstances 

21  of  trading  violations  which  the  Commission  determines  to  be 

22  attributable  to  dual  trading,  and  (ii)  is  fully  verifiable.  Any 

23  order  by  the  Commission  to  exempt  a  board  of  trade  from  the 

24  dual  trading  prohibition  in  paragraph  (A)  pursuant  to  this 
26  paragraph  shaD  not  become  effective  until  after  the  expiration 


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1  of  ninet;  days  after  the  date  of  bwismittal  of  a  report  on  the 

2  CommisBion's  detenninatioiis  re^din^  such  boaid  of  trade 

3  to  the  Committee  on  Agriculture  of  the  House  of  B«preBenta- 

4  tives  and  the  Conunittee  on  Agriculture,  Nutrition,  and  For- 

5  estryof  the  Senate.". 

6  (b)  Bboulations. — The  Commission  shall  issue  the 

7  regulations  required  by  section  4j(l)  of  the  Commodity  Ex- 

8  change  Act  no  Uter  than  two  hundred  seventy  days  after  the 

9  effective  date  of  this  Act. 

10  sec  102.  TRADING  AMONG  MEMBERS  OF  BROKER  ASSOCIA. 

11  TIONS. 

12  (a)  Pbohibition. — Section  4j  of  the  Commodity  Ex- 

13  change  Act  (7  U.S.C.  6j)  is  amended  by  adding  at  the  end 

14  thereof  the  following  new  subsection: 

15  "(3)  It  shall  be  unlawful,  pursuant  to  regulations  issued 

16  by  the  Commission — 

17  "(A)  for  a  member  of  a  broker  association,  for  or 

18  on  behalf  of  any  customer,  to  execute  a  transaction 

19  such  that  another  member  of  the  same  broker  associa- 

20  tion,  trading  for  such  other  member's  own  account,  or 

21  the  account  of  the  association,  takes  the  opposite  side 

22  of  such  transaction;  or 

28  "(B)  for  any  member  of  a  broker  association  to 

24  trade  with  another  member  of  the  same  broker  associa- 

25  tion,  whether  such  brokers  are  trading  for  such  bro- 


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1  kers'  own  accounts,  for  customers,  or  for  the  account 

2  of  the  broker  association,  if  such  transactions  in  any 

3  month  total  more  than  25  per  centum  of  the  totid 

4  transactions  of  such  broker;  and 

5  "(C)  for  any  member  of  a  broker  association  to 

6  eogige  in  sucb  other  practices  as  the  Commission  de- 

7  tennines  necessary  to  prohibit  or  to  curb  abuses  and 

8  otherwise  protect  the  interests  of  eustomers  from  po- 

9  tential  trading  abuses  by  members  of  broker  associa- 

10  tions. 

11  Such  regulations  shaD  include  a  defimtion  of  the  term  'broker 

12  association'.  Nothing  in  this  subsection  shall  be  construed  to 

13  prohibit  the  Commission  or  contract  markets  from  prohibiting 

14  trading  by  broker  associations  or  their  members,  or  from  set- 

15  ting  tonns  and  conditions  for  such  trading  that  are  more  re- 

16  strictive  than  those  set  by  this  subsection.". 

17  (b)  Rbotjlations. — The  Commission  shall  issue  regu- 

18  lations  to  implement  section  4j(3)  of  the  Commodity  Credit 

19  Exchange  Act  no  later  than  two  hundred  seventy  days  after 

20  the  effective  date  of  this  Act. 

21  (o)  Repobt  to  Conobbss. — The  Commission  shall  de- 

22  tennine  whether  the  public  interest  would  best  be  served  by 

23  placing  alternative  restrictions  on  trading  by  broker  associa- 

24  tions  and  their  members,  and  whether  such  broker  associa- 

25  tions,  or  fading  by  such  broker  assodations,  should  be  pro- 


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1  hibited.  The  CommisBioii  Bhall  report  its  determiiialioii  and 

2  any  recommendations  by  the  Commission  for  regulatory  or 

3  legislative  initialiTes  to  implement  such  reoommendationfi  to 

4  the  Committee  on  Agriculture  of  the  House  of  Bepresenta- 

5  tives  aod  the  Committee  on  Agriculture,  Nutrition,  and  For- 

6  eatry  of  the  Senate  no  Uter  than  two  hundred  seventy  days 

7  after  the  effective  date  of  the  regulations  required  under  ^a 

8  section. 

9  TITLE  n— ENHANCEMENT  OF  REGULATORY  AND 

10  ENFORCEMENT  ACTIVITIES 

11  SEC  201.  AUDIT  TRAUA 

12  (a)  Audit  Tbail  Rbquibbments  fob  Contbaot 

13  Mabkets. — Section  4g(2)  of  the  Commodity  Exchange  Act 

14  (7  U.8.C.  6g)  ia  amended  by— 

15  (1)  inserting  "(A)"  after  "(2)";  and 

16  (2)  adding  at  the  end  thereof  the  following  new 

17  paragraph: 

18  "CB)(i)  Each  contract  market  shall  maintain  or  cauae  U> 

19  be  maintained  by  its  clearinghouse  a  single  record  that  shall 

20  show  for  each  futm-es  or  options  trade  the  transaction  date, 

21  time  of  execution  (as  required  by  subparagraph  (ii)),  quantity, 

22  and,  as  applicable,  underlying  commodity,  price  or  premium, 

23  deliveiy  month  or  expiration  date,  whether  the  transaction 

24  involved  a  contract  for  future  delivery  or  physical,  put  or  a 

25  call,  strike  price,  floor  broker  or  floor  trader  buying,  clearing 

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1  member  buying,  floor  broker  or  floor  trader  selling,  olearing 

2  member  selling,  symbols  indicatiiig  the  buying  and  selling 

3  customer  or  option  customer  types  and  such  other  informa- 

4  tion  as  the  Commissioa  determines  neoeaaary.  Such  record 

5  shall  enable  such  contnct  market  to  rapidly  reconstruct  an 

6  accurate  record,  aa  determined  by  the  Commiasion,  of  the 

7  transactions  executed  on  such  contract  market. 

8  "(ii)  For  the  purposes  of  subparagraph  (i),  the  time  of 

9  execution  of  a  transaction  shall  be  verifiable  and  shaD — 

10  "(a)  be  stated  within  an  increment  of  no  more 

1 1  than  one  minute  in  length,  beginning  not  later  than  one 

12  year  after  the  effective  date  of  this  paragraph;  and 

13  "(b)  be  stated  within  an  increment  of  no  more 

14  than  thirty  seconds  in  length,  beginning  not  later  than 

15  three  years  after  the  effective  date  of  this  paragraph. 

16  "(iii^  The  Commission  shall  report  on  the  status  of  oom- 

17  pliaoce  with  the  standards  imposed  by  this  section  and  report 
16  its  findings  to  the  Committee  on  Agriculture  of  the  House  of 

19  Representatives  and  the  Committee  on  Agriculture,  Nutri- 

20  tion,  and  Forestry  of  tlie  Senate  within  one  himdred  and 

21  eighty  days  after  the  dates  specified  in  clauaea  {BKiiXa)  and 

22  (BKiiKb),  respectively. 

23  "(iv)  The  Commission  shall — 

24  "(a)  determine  whether  the  record  required  by  this 
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1  rapidly  reconBtruct  an  accurate,  verifiable  record  of  the 

2  transactions  executed  on  such  contract  markets,  as  de- 

3  termined  necessary  by  the  Conunission  to  provide  for 

4  the  effective  enforcement  of  the  appHcahle  provisions  of 

5  this  Act  and  the  rules  or  regulations  thereunder; 

6  "(b)  determine  whetiier  the  recording  and  recon- 

7  struction  of  the  time  and  sequence  of  trades  can  more 

8  accurately  represent  the  real  times  of  such  trades 

9  through  the  use  of  improved  technologies  or  other 

10  means  and  determine  whether  any  regulatory  or  legis- 

11  lative  changes  would  be  necessary  or  appropriate  to 

12  implement  such  improvements;  and 

13  "(c)  report  its  Sndings  pursuant  to  this  subpara- 

14  graph  to  the  Committee  on  Agriculture  of  the  House  of 

15  Representatives  and  the  Committee  on  Agriculture, 

16  Nubition,  and  Forestry  of  the  Senate  no  later  than  five 

17  years  after  the  effective  date  of  this  paragraph.". 

18  "(b)  Audit  Tbail  Compliance  As  Condition  fob 

19  CoNTBACT  Mabket  DbsionatiON. — Section  5  of  the  Com- 

20  modity  Exchange  Act  (7  U.S.C.  7)  is  amended  by  adding  at 

21  the  end  &e  following  new  paragraph: 

22  "(h)  When  such  board  of  trade  demonstrates  that  eveiy 

23  contract  market  for  which  such  board  of  trade  is  designated 

24  complies  with  the  requirements  of  sections  4g(2)(B)(i^a)  and 

25  4g(2)(B)fii)(b)ofthi8Act.". 


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1  sec  »2.  telemarketing  fraud. 

2  "(&)  Pbohibition  Against  Tbadino  on  New  Ao- 

3  COUNTS. — The  Commodity  Exchange  Act  is  amended  bj 

4  adding  after  Bection  4p  (7  U.S.C.  6p)  the  following  new  sec- 
■  5  tion: 

6  "Sbc.  4q.  The  Commiasion  shall  issue  regulations  to 

7  prohibit  any  person,  who  has  solicited  a  customer  by  tele- 

8  phone  to  open  a  futures  or  options  account  from  entering  any 

9  orders  for  such  account  for  three  days  after  the  customer 

10  signed  any  contract  and  a  separate  risk  disclosure  statement 

11  opening  the  account.  Such  regulations  shall  not  apply  to — 

12  "(1)  accounts  opened  solely  for  the  purpose  of 

13  making  bona  fide  hedging  transactions,  as  such  tenn  is 

14  defined  by  the  Commission,  consistent  with  the  pur- 
16  poses  of  this  Act;  or 

16  "(2)  transactions  that  transfer  positions  in  an  ex- 

17  isting  futures  or  options  account  to  another  futures 

18  commission  merchant  or  such  other  person  as  deter- 

19  mined  necessary  by  the  Commission. 

20  (3)  accounts,  other  than  the  first  account,  opened 

21  by  a  customer  with  the  same  futures  commission  mer- 

22  chant.". 

23  "(b)  Begulations. — The  Commission  shall  issue  the 

24  regulations  required  by  section  4q  of  Uie  Commodity  Ex- 

25  change  Act  no  later  than  one  hundred  and  eighty  days  after 

26  the  date  of  leAactment  of  this  Act. 


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1  SEC  SM.  UNDERCOVER  OPERATIONS  AND  ENFORCEMENT. 

2  Section  8(a)  of  the  Commodity  Exchange  Act  (7  U.S.C. 

3  1 2(&))  is  amended  by — 

4  (1)  inaerting  "(1)"  after  "(a)";  and 

5  (2)  inserting  at  the  end  the  following  new  para- 

6  graph: 

7  "(2)  In  conducting  investigations  authorized  under  this 

8  Bubsection  or  other  provision  of  this  Act,  the  Commission 

9  shall  continue,  as  the  Commission  determines  necessary,  to 

10  request  the  asaistance  of  and  cooperate  with  the  appropriate 

11  Federal  agencies  in  the  conduct  of  such  investigations,  in- 

12  eluding  undercover  operations  by  such  agencies.". 

13  SEC  204.  SELF  REGULATORY  ORGANIZATION  DISaPUNARY 
U  COHHITTEES  AND  GOVERNING  BOARDS. 

15  (a)  DiSCIPLINABT  COHMITTEBB  AND  UAJOB  YiOLA- 

16  T10N8. — Section  8c  of  the  Commodity  Exchange  Act  (7 

17  U.S.C.  12c)  is  amended  by  adding  at  the  end  the  following 

18  new  subsections — 

19  "(5)  The  ConmiisBion  shall  issue  regulations  ta  require 

20  the  establishment  of  a  system  of  contract  market  disciplinaiy 

21  committees.  Under  such  system,  each  board  of  trade  which 

22  has  been  designated  as  a  contract  market  shall — 

23  "(A)  establish  one  or  more  disciphnary  committees 

24  which  shall  be  authorized  by  such  board  of  ta-ade  to  de- 

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1  trade  have  been  oomnutted,  to  accept  oSen  of  settle- 

2  ment,  and  to  impose  appropriate  penalties; 

3  "(B)  provide  that  disciplinaiy  committees  estab- 

4  lished  pursuant  to  paragraph  (A)  be  composed  of  mem- 
6  ben  of  the  board  of  trade,  or  staff  members  of  the 

6  board  of  trade,  such  that  the  committee,  or  any  hearing 

7  panel  formed  by  the  committee  to  conduct  disciplinaiy 

8  hearings,  shall  be  composed  of  a  majority  of  persons 

9  who  are  of  a  different  trading  status  than  the  respond- 

10  ent;  and 

11  "(C)  provide  that  a  hearing  panel  formed  by  the 

12  committee   to   conduct   disciplinary   hearings   may   be 

13  composed  of  fewer  than  the  total  number  of  members 

14  of  the  committee. 

15  For  the  purposes  of  paragraph  (B),  a  disciplinary  committee 

16  member's  trading  status  sh^  be  detennined  by  whether  such 

17  member  is  a:  (1)  floor  broker  or  floor  trader,  (2)  member  of 

18  the  board  of  trade  other  than  a  floor  broker  or  floor  trader,  or 

19  (3)  staff  member  of  such  board  of  trade. 

20  "(6)(A)  The  Commission  shall  issue  regulations  requir- 

21  ing  each  contract  market  to  establish  and  make  available  to 

22  tlie  public  a  schedule  of  major  violations  of  any  rule  within 

23  the  discipUnary  jurisdiction  of  such  contract  market. 

24  "(B)  The  regulations  issued  by  the  Commission  pursu- 

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1  have  committed  a  major  violatjoo  of  any  rule  within  the  disci- 

2  plinary  jurisdictioii  of  a  contract  mai^et  from  service  on  the 

3  governing  board  of  any  oonb'fict  market  or  repBtered  futures 

4  association,  or  on  any  diaoiptinary  committee  thereof,  for  a 

5  period  of  time  to  be  determined  by  the  Commission.". 

6  (b)  Rboistebbd  Futubbs  Associations. — Section 

7  17  of  the  Commodity  Exchange  Act  (7  U.S.C.  21)  is  amend- 

8  ed  by  addmg  at  the  end  the  following  new  subsection: 

9  "(rMl)  The  Commission  shall  issue  regulations  requiring 

10  each  registered  futures  association  to  estt^lish  and  make 

11  available  to  the  pubUc  a  schedule  of  major  violations  of  any 

12  rule  within  the  disciplinary  jurisdiction  of  such  registered  fu- 

13  tures  association. 

14  "(2)  The  regulations  issued  by  the  Commission  pursuant 

15  to  this  subsection  shall  prohibit  any  member  of  a  registered 

16  futures  association  found  to  have  committed  a  major  violation 

17  of  any  rule  within  the  disciplinaiy  jurisdiction  of  such  regis- 

18  tered  futures  association  from  service  on  the  governing  board 

19  of  any  registered  futures  association  or  contract  market,  or 

20  on  any  disciplinary  committee  thereof,  for  a  period  of  time  to 

21  be  determined  by  the  Commission.". 

22  (c)    Public     Rbpbesentation     on     GtovEBNmo 

23  BOABDS. — (1)  Section  5a  of  the  Commodity  Exchange  Act 

24  (7  IT.S.C.  7a)  is  amended  by— 


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1  (A)  Btrikiiig  "and"  following  the  semicolon  at  the 

2  end  of  paragraph  (11); 

3  (B)  Btiiking  "involved."  at  the  end  of  paragraph 

4  {12)  and  inserting  "involved;  and";  and 

5  (C)  adding  at  the  end  the  following  new  para- 

6  graph: 

7  "(13)  Ensure  that  outside  members,  as  defined  in  regu- 

8  lations  issued  by  the  CommtsBion,  comprise  at  least  20  per 

9  centum  of  the  governing  board  of  such  contract  market.". 

10  (2)  Section  17(b)  of  the  Commodity  Exchange  Act  (7 

11  U.S.C.  21),  as  amended  by  section  204(bK2)  of  this  Act,  is 

12  amended  by  adding  at  the  end  (he  following  new  paragraph: 

13  "(11)  at  least  20  per  centum  of  the  members  of 

14  the  governing  board  thereof  are  outside  members,  as 

15  defined  m  regulations  issued  by  the  Commission,". 

16  (d)  Reqclations. — The  Oommission  shall  issue  rcgu- 

17  lations  required  by  sections  5a(13),  8c(5),  8c(6),  17(bKll), 

18  and  17(r)  of  the  Commodity  Exchange  Act  no  later  than  one 

19  hundred  and  eighty  days  after  the  effective  date  of  this  Act. 

20  SEC.  206.  REQUIRED  REGISTRATION  OP  FLOOR  TRADERS. 

21  (a)  Definition. — Section  2(aKl)(A)  of  the  Commodity 

22  Exchange  Act  (17  U.S.C.  section  2)  is  amended  by  inserting 

23  after  the  sentence  begmning  "The  words  'floor  broker'  "  a 

24  new  sentence  as  follows:  "The  words  'floor  trader'  shall 
26  mean  any  person  who,  in  or  surrounding  any  'pit',  'ring', 


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1    'post',  or  other  place  provided  by  a  contract  market  for  Uie 
3   meetiiig  of  persons  similarly  engaged,  shall  purchase  or  sell 

3  solely  for  such  person's  own  account  any  commodity  for 

4  future  deliveiy  on  or  subject  to  the  rules  of  any  contract 

5  market.". 

6  (b)  Floob  Tbadbb  Rboibtbation. — Section  4e  of  the 

7  Commodity  Exchange  Act  (7  U.S.C.  section  6e)  is  amended 

8  to  read  as  follows: 

9  "It  shall  be  unlawful  for  any  person  to  act  as  floor 

10  trader  in  executing  purchases  and  sales,  or  as  floor  broker  in 

11  executing  any  orders  for  the  purchase  or  sale,  of  any  com- 

12  modity  for  future  delivery,  or  involving  any  contracts  of  sale 

13  of  any  commodity  for  future  deUvery,  on  or  subject  to  the 

14  rules  of  any  contract  market  unless  such  person  shall  have 

15  registered,  under  this  Act,  with  the  Commission  as  such  floor 

16  trader  or  floor  broker  and  such  repstration  shall  not  have 

17  expired  nor  been  suspended  nor  revoked.". 

18  (c)  Rboibtbation  Peocbdueb. — Section  4f(l)  of  tiie 

19  Commodity  Exchange  Act  (7  U.S.C.  section  6f(l))  is  amend- 

20  ed  by  striking  the  words  "or  floor  broker"  and  inserting  the 

21  words  "floor  broker,  or  floor  trader". 

22  (d)  Bbpobts;  Books  ans  Rbgobds. — Section  4g(l)  of 

23  the  Commodity  Exchange  Act  (7  U.S.C.  section  6g  (1))  ia 

24  amended  by  striking  the  words  "or  floor  broker"  and  insert- 

25  ing  the  words  "floor  broker,  or  floor  trader". 


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1  (e)  JiTBiSDicnoH  OP  THE  Statbs. — (1)  Section  6d(l) 

2  of  the  Commodity  Exchwige  Act  (7  U.S.C.  sectioo  lSa-2(l)) 

3  is  amended  by  striking  the  words  "or  Qoor  broker"  and  in- 

4  serting  the  words  "floor  broker,  or  floor  trader". 

5  (2)  Section  6d(8KA)  of  the  Commodity  Exchange  Act  (7 

6  U.S.C.  section  13a-2(8KA))  a  amended  by  inserting  ",  floOT 

7  trader,"  after  the  words  "floor  broker". 

8  <f)    COHHISSION    AUTHOBITT    TO    BBQISTBB    FLOOB 

9  Tbadbbs. — Section  8a(l)  of  the  Commodity  Exchange  Act 

10  (7  U.S.C.  12a(l))  is  amended  by  striking  out  the  words  "and 

11  floor  brokers"  and  inserting  the  words  "floor  brokers,  and 

12  floor  traders". 

IS  (g)  Refusal  To  Beoistbb.— (1)  Section  ea(2)(C)C9  <d 

14  the  Commodity  Exchange  Act  (7  U.8.C.   12a(2HC)a»  is 

15  amended  by  inserting  "floor  trader,"  after  "floor  broker,". 

16  (2)  Section  8B(2KDKii)  of  the  Commodity  Exchange  Act 

17  (7    U.S.C.    12a(2)(^(ii))   is    amended   by   inserting   "floor 

18  trader,"  after  "Door  broker,". 

19  (3)  Section^8a(3)(E)Cii)  of  the  Commodity  Exchange  Act 

20  <7   U.S.C.    12a(3)(E)(ii))   is   amended  by   inserting   "floor 

21  trader,"  alter  "floor  broker,". 

22  (h)  REQimATiONS. — The  Commission  shall  issue  any 

23  regulations  necessary  to  inqilement  the  provisions  of  this  seo- 

24  tion  no  later  tiian  one  hundred  and  eighty  days  after  the  ef- 

25  fective  date  of  this  Act. 


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1  SEC.  20C  ENHANCEMENT  OF  REG18TKATI0N  REQUIREHENTa 

2  (a)  Section  88(2)(C)  of  the  Commodity  Exchange  Act  (7 

3  U.S.C.  12a(2»  is  amended  by— 

4  (1)  inserting  immediately  after  the  word  "decree" 

5  the  second  time  it  appears  "or  solely  on  the  basis  of  an 

6  order,  judgment  or  decree  which  is  not  deemed  to  con- 

7  Btitute  a  disqualificatjon  from  regiBtration  by  the  regu- 

8  latory  agency  which  initiated  the  injunctive  action"; 

9  (2)  in  clause  (ii)  striking  "involving  any  transac- 

10  tion  in  or  advise  concerning  contracts  of  sale  of  a  com- 

11  modity  for  future  delivery,"  and  inserting  "where  such 

12  activity  involves  embezzlement,  theft,  extortion,  fraud, 

13  fraudulent  conversion,  misappropriation  of  funds,  secu- 

14  rities  or  property,  forgery,  counterfeiting,  false  pre- 

15  tenses,  bribery,  gambling  or  deception  of  customers, 

16  or"; 

17  (3)  inserting  a  semicolon  inmiediateiy  after  "Act"; 

18  and 

19  (4)  striking  "or  concerning  securities;". 

20  (b)  Section  8a(2)(D)(iii)  of  the  Commodity  Exchange  Act 

21  (7  U.S.C.  12a(2)(DM))  is  amended  by— 

22  (1)  striking  "or"  immediately  before  "gambling,"; 

23  and 

24  (2)  insertiog  "or  deception  of  customers,"  immedi- 

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1  (c)  Section  8a(2MD)0v)  of  tiie  Conunodity  Exchange  Act 

2  (7  U.S.C.  12a(2)(DKiv))  is  amended  by— 

3  (1)    inserting    "371,    1001,"    immediately    after 

4  "152,"; 

5  (2)  striking  "or"  immediately  after  "1342"; 

6  (3)  inserting  "1503,  1623,  1961-1963,  or  2314," 

7  immediately  after  "1343,";  and 

8  (4)  inserting  "or  section  7201  or  7206  of  title 

9  26,"  immediately  after  "18,". 

10  (d)  Section  8a(2)<E)  of  the  Commodity  Exchange  Act  (7 

1 1  U.S.C.  12a<2)(E))  is  amended  by— 

12  (1)  striking  "by  any  court  of  competent  jmisdic- 

13  tion,"  and  inserting  "in  a  proceeding  brought"; 

14  (2)  in  clause  (i)  inserting  "the  Racketeer  Influ- 

15  enced  Corrupt  Organizations  Act,"  immediately  after 

16  "1977,"; 

17  (3)  in  clause  (i)  striking  out  "or"  immediately 

18  after  "bribery,";  and 

19  (4)  in  clause  (i)  inserting  "or  deception  of  custom- 

20  ers,"  immediately  after  "gambling,". 

21  (e)  Section  8a(2)(G)  of  the  Commodity  Exchange  Act  (7 

22  U.S.C.  12a(2HG))  is  amended  by— 

23  (1)  striking  "subparagraphs  (A)  through  (F)  of  this 

24  paragraph."  and  inserting  "sections  8a(2)  and  8a(3),"; 


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1  (2)  striking  "materul"  the  first  time  it  appeua, 

2  and  inserting  "materially";  and 

3  (3)  strike  "application;"  and  insert  "application  or 

4  any  update  thereto;". 

5  (0  Section  8a(3)(D)  of  the  Commodity  Exchange  Act  (7 

6  U.S.C.  12a(3)a>)  is  amended  by— 

7  {1)  inserting  "pled  guilty  to  or"  immediately  after 

8  "person"; 

9  (2)  inserting  a  comma  after  "section"  the  first 

10  time  it  appears; 

11  (3)  striking  "within  ten  years  preceding  the  filing 

12  of  the  application  or  at  any  time  thereafter,"; 

13  (4)  striking  ",  including  a  felony";  and 

14  (6)  sticking  ",  more  than"  and  inserting  "more 

15  than". 

16  (g)  Section  8a(3HE)  of  the  Commodity  Exchange  Act  <7 

17  U.S.C.  12a(3)(E)  is  amended  by— 

18  (1)  inserting  "pled  guilty  to  or"  after  "person"; 

19  (2)  spiking  "within  ten  years  preceding  the  filing 

20  of  the  application  for  registration  or  at  any  time  there- 

21  after"; 

22  (3)  in  clause  (iii)  atriking  "or"  immediately  after 

23  "bribery"; 

24  (4)  in  clause  (m)  inserting  "deception  of  custom- 
26  ers,  moral  turpitude  or  conduct  inconsistent  mth  just 


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1  and  equitable  principles  of  trade,"  immediately  after 

2  the  word  "gamblinj^"; 

3  (5)  in  clause  (iv)  inserting  "371,"  immediately 

4  after  "152,";  and 

5  (6)  in  clause  (iv)  inserting  "or  section  7203,  7204, 

6  7205,  or  7207  of  title  26,"  after  "18,". 

7  (b)  Section  8a(3MO)  of  the  Commodity  Exchange  Act  (7 

8  U.S.C.  l2aiSHGr)  is  amended  by— 

9  (1)  striking  "material"  the  first  time  it  appears, 

10  and  inserting  "materially"; 

11  (2)  striking  the  comma  after  "appUcation"; 

12  (3)  inserting  "or  any  update  thereto,"  after  "ap- 

13  plication"; 

14  (4)  striking  "thereunder,  or"  and  inserting  "there- 

15  under,";  and 

16  (5)  inserting  after  "Commission"  the  words  "or  in 

17  any  registration  disqualification  proceeding". 

18  (i)  Section  8a(3)(H)  of  the  Commodity  Exchange  Act  (7 

19  U.8.C.  12a(3KH))  is  amended  by  inserting  inmiediately  after 

20  "State  court"  ",  in  a  Unit«d  States  military  court,". 

21  ())  Section  8a<3KJ)  of  the  Commodity  Exchange  Act  (7 

22  U.S.C.  12a(3)(J))  is  amended  by— 

23  (1)  striking  "or"  after  the  first  reference  to  "asso- 

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1  (2)  mserting  "or  any  foreign  re^atory  body  that 

2  the  GommiBsion  has  recognized  aa  having  a  comparable 

3  regulatoiy  program,"  after  the  first  reference  to  "orga- 

4  nization"; 

5  (3)  striking  "or"  after  the  second  reference  to 

6  "association";  and 

7  (4)  striking  "organization;"  and  inserting  "organi- 
6  zation,  or  foreign  regulatoiy  body;". 

9  (k)  Section  8a(3XKKi)  of  the  Commodity  Exchange  Act 

10  (7  U.8.C.12a(3)(KKi))!B  amended  by— 

11  (1)  striking  "or"  immediately  after  "bribeiy,";  and 

12  <2)  inserting  ",  deception  of  customers,  or  conduct 

13  inconsistent    with    just    and    equitable    principles    of 

14  trade,"  immediately  after  "gambling". 

15  SEC.  207.  ENFORCEMENT  OF  aVIL  HONEY  PENALTIEa 

16  Section  6(d)  of  the  Commodity  Exchange  Act  (7  U.S.O. 

17  9a),  is  wnended  to  read  as  follows: 

18  "(dKD'In  determining  the  amount  of  the  money  penalty 

19  assessed  mider  paragraph  (b),  the  Commission  shall  consider 

20  the  appropriateness  of  such  penalty  to  the  gravity  of  the  vio- 

21  tation. 

22  "{2)  Unless  the  person  agunst  whom  a  money  penalty  is 

23  assessed  under  paragraph  (b)  shows  to  the  satisfaction  of  the 

24  Commission  within  fifteen  days  from  the  expiration  of  the 

25  period  allowed  for  payment  of  such  penidty  that  either  an 


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1  appeal  as  authorized  by  paragraph  (b)  has  been  taken  or  pay- 

2  ment  of  the  full  amount  of  the  penalty  then  due  has  been 

3  made,  at  the  end  of  such  fifteen-day  period  and  until  sudl 

4  person  shows  to  the  satisfaction  of  the  Commission  that  pay- 

5  ment  of  such  amount  with  interest  thereon  to  date  of  psy- 

6  ment  has  been  made:  {A)  such  person  shall  be  prohibited  from 

7  trading  on  all  contract  markets  and  (B)  if  such  person  is  reg- 

8  istered  with  the  Commission,  such  registration  shall  be  sus- 

9  pended. 

10  "(3)  If  a.  person  against  whom  a  money  penalty  is  as- 

11  sessed  under  paragraph  (b)  takes  an  appeal  and  if  the  Com* 

12  mission  prevails  or  the  appeal  is  dismissed,  unless  such 

13  person  shows  to  the  satisfaction  of  the  Commission  that  pay- 

14  ment  of  the  full  amount  of  the  penalty  then  due  has  bem 

15  made  by  the  end  of  thir^  days  from  the  date  of  judgment  on 

16  the  appeal:  (A)  such  person  shall  be  prohibited  from  trading 

17  on  all  contract  markets  and  (B)  if  such  person  is  registered 

18  with  the  Commission,  such  registration  sh^  be  suspended.  If 

19  the  person  upon  whom  the  money  penalty  has  been  imposed 

20  fails  to  pay  such'^nalty  after  the  lapse  of  the  period  allowed 

21  for  appeal  or  after  the  affirmance  of  such  penalty,  the  Com- 

22  mission  may  refer  the  matter  to  the  Attorney  Qeneral  who 

23  shall  recover  such  penalty  by  action  in  the  appropriate 

24  United  States  district  court.". 


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1  SEC.  »8.  ETHICS  TRAINING  FOR  REGISTRANTS. 

2  Section  4p  of  the  Coininodity  Exchange  Act  (7  U.S.C. 

3  6p)  is  amended  by — 

4  (1)  inserting  "(1)"  after  "Sec.  4p.";  and 

5  (2)  adding  after  the  existing  section  4p(l),  as  so 

6  redesignated,  Uie  following  new  subsection: 

7  "(2)  The  Commission  shall  issue  regulations  to  require 

8  new  registrants,  within  six  months  after  receiving  such  regis- 

9  tration,  to  attend  a  truning  session,  and  all  other  registrants 

10  to  attend  periodic  training  sessions,  to  ensure  that  reg^trants 

1 1  understand  their  responsibilities  to  the  public  under  this  Act, 

12  including  responsibilities  to  observe  just  and  equitable  princi- 

13  pies  of  trade,  any  rule  or  regulation  of  the  Commission,  any 

14  rule  of  any  appropriate  contract  market,  registered  futures 

15  association,  or  other  self-regulatoiy  organization,  or  any 

16  otlier  applicable  Federal  or  State  law,  rule  or  regulation.". 

17  (c)  The  Commission  shall  issue  the  regulations  required 
16  by  section  4p(2)  of  the  Commodity  Exchange  Act  no  later 

19  than  one  hundred  and  eighty  days  after  the  effective  date  of 

20  this  Act 

2 1  SEC  209.  NATIONWIDE  SERVICE  OF  PROCESS  AND  VENUE. 

22  Section  22(c)  of  the  Commodity  Exchange  Act  (7 

23  tI.S.C.  25(c))  is  amended  to  read  as  follows: 

24  "(c)  The  United  States  district  courts  shall  have  exclu- 

25  sive  jurisdiction  of  actions  brought  under  this  section.  Any 

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1  the  cause  of  action  accrued.  Any  action  brought  under  sub- 

2  section  {a)  of  tiiis  section  may  be  brought  in  any  diatrkt 

3  wherein  the  defendant  is  found  or  is  an  inhabitant  or  bvu- 

4  acts  business,  or  in  the  district  wherein  any  act  or  transaction 
6  constituting  the  violation  occurred,  and  process  in  such  action 

6  may  be  served  in  any  district  of  which  the  defendant  is  an 

7  inhabitant  or  wherever  the  defendant  may  be  found.". 

8  TITLE  m— ASSISTANCE  TO  FOREIGN  PUTUBES 

9  AUTHORITIES 

10  SEC.  301.  DEFmrnON  OF  FOREIGN  FUTURES  AUTRORITY. 

11  Section  2{aKl)(A)  of  the  Commodity  Exchange  Act  (7 

12  U.S.C.  2)  is  amended  by  inserting  at  the  end  a  new  sentence 

13  as  follows:  "The  term  'foreign  futures  authority'  means  any 

14  foreign  government,  or  any  departanent,  agency,  govemmeo- 

15  tal  body  or  regulatory  organization  empowered  by  a  foreign 

16  government  to  administer  or  enforce  laws,  rules  or  regular 

17  tions  as  they  relate  to  futures  or  options  matters,  or  any  de- 

18  partment  or  agency  of  a  political  subdivision  of  a  forei^  gov- 

19  emment  empowered  to  administer  or  enforce  laws,  rules  or 

20  regulations  as  they  relate  to  futures  or  options  matters.". 

21  sec  302.  SUBPOENA  AUTHORITY. 

22  Section  6(b)  of  the  Commodity  Exchange  Act  (7  U.S.O. 

23  15)  is  amended  by  inserting  in  the  third  sentence  thereof  fol* 

24  lowing  the  word  "Act"  the  second  time  it  appears:  "or  for 


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1  purposes  of  any  action  taken  under  Section  12(0  of  this 

2  Act,". 

S  SEC.  303.  COOPERATION  WITH  FOREIGN  niTURES  AVTHORI- 

4  TIES. 

5  Section  12(a)  of  the   Commodity  Exchange  Act  (7 

6  U.S.C.  16(a))  is  amended  hy  inserting  after  "thereof,"  the 

7  following:  "any  foreign  futures  autliority,  or  any  department 

8  or  agency  of  a  foreign  government  or  political  subdivision 

9  thereof,". 

10  SBC  304.  INVESTIGATIVE  ASSISTANCE  TO  FOREIGN  FUTURES 

11  AUTHORITIES. 

12  Section  12  of  the  Commodity  Exchange  Act  (7  U.S.C. 

13  16)  is  amended  by  adding  at  the  end  the  following  new  sub- 

14  section: 

15  "(f)  On  request  from  a  foreign  futures  authority,  the 

16  Commission  may,  in  its  discretion,  provide  assistance  in  ac- 

17  cordance  with  this  section  if  the  requesting  authority  states 

18  that  the  requesting  authority  is  conducting  an  investigation 

19  which  it  deems  necessary  to  determine  whether  any  person 

20  has  violated,  is  violating,  or  is  about  to  violate  any  laws, 

21  rules  or  regulations  relating  to  futures  or  options  matters  that 

22  the  requesting  authority  administers  or  enforces.  The  Com- 

23  mission  may  conduct  such  investigation  as  the  Commission 

24  deems  necessary  to  collect  information  and  evidence  perti- 

25  nent  to  the  request  for  assistance.  Such  assistance  may  be 


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1  provided  without  regard  to  whether  the  facts  stated  in  the 

2  request  would  also  coitBtitute  a  violadon  of  the  laws  of  the 

3  United  States.  In  deciding  whether  to  provide  assistance 

4  under  this  section,  the  Oommission  shall  consider  whether  (1) 

5  the  requesting  authority  has  agreed  to  provide  reciprocal  as- 

6  sistance  to  the  Commission  in  futures  and  optJons  matters; 

7  and  (2)  compUance  with  the  request  would  prejudice  ^e 

8  public  interest  of  the  United  States.  Notwithstanding  any 

9  other  provision  of  law,  the  Commission  may  accept  payment 

10  and  reimbursement,  in  cash  or  in  kind,  from  a.  foreign  futures 

11  authority,  or  made  on  behalf  of  such  authority,  for  necessary 

12  expenses  incurred  by  the  Commission,  its  members,  and  em- 

13  ployees  in  carrying  out  any  investigation  pursuant  to  this  sec- 

14  tion  or  in  providing  any  other  assistance  to  a  foreign  futures 

15  authority.  Any  payment  or  reimbursement  accepted  shall  be 

16  considered  a  reimbursement  to  the  appropriated  funds  of  the 

17  Commission.". 

18  SEC  305.  DISCLOSURE  OF  INFORMATION  RECEIVED  FROM 

19  FOREIGN  FUTURES  AUTHORITIES. 

20  Section  8  of  the  Commodity  Exchange  Act  (7  U.S.C. 

21  12)  is  amended — 

22  (1)  by  inserting  at  the  end  of  subsection  8(a)(1),  as 

23  redesignated  by  section  203  of  this  Act,  the  following 

24  new  sentence:  "The  Commission  shall  not  be  com- 

25  petled  to  disclose  any  information  or  data  obtuned  by 


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1  the  Commisgion  firom  a  foreign  futures  authority  if  the 

2  foreign  futures  authority  has  in  good  futh  represented 

3  to  the  Commission  that  such  disclosures  would  be  con- 

4  trary  to  the  laws  of  the  foreign  country  from  which  it 

5  was  obtiuned;  however,  nothing  in  this  subsection  shall 

6  prevent  the  Commission  from  disclosing  publicly  any 

7  infonnation  or  data  obtained  by  the  Commission  from  a 

8  foreign  futures  authority  when  such  disclosure  is  made 

9  in  connection  with  a  congressional  proceeding,  an  ad- 

10  ministrative  or  judicial  proceeding  commenced  by  the 

11  United  States  or  the  Comniiasion,  in  any  receivership 

12  proceeding  commenced  by  the  United  States  or  the 

13  Commission,  or  in  any  bankruptcy  proceeding  in  which 

14  the  Commission  has  intervened  or  in  which  the  Com- 

15  mission  has  the  right  to  appear  and  be  heard  under 

16  titie  11  of  the  United  States  Code.";  and 

17  (2)  by  inserting  at  the  end  of  subsection  8{b)  the 

18  following  new  sentence:  "Nothing  in  this  subsection 

19  shall  apply  to  the  disclosure  of  data  or  information  ob- 

20  tained  by  the  Conmussion  from  a  foreign  futures  au- 

21  thority.". 

22  SEC.  306.  DISCLOSURE  OF  INFORMATION  TO  FOREIGN  FU< 

23  TURES  AUTHORITIES. 

24  Subsection  (e)  of  section  8  of  the  Commodity  Exchange 

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1  (1)  by  insertiiig  in  Ae  fifth  sentence  after  "juris- 

2  diction,"  the  first  time  it  appears  the  following:  "or 

3  any  foreign  futures  authority"; 

4  (2)  by  inserting  in  the  fifth  sentence  after  "such" 

5  the  following:  "foreign  futures  authority,"; 

6  (3)  by  inserting  in  the  last  sentence  after  "infor- 

7  mation  to  a"  the  following:  "foreign  futures  authority 

8  or  to  a"; 

9  (4)  by  inserting  in  the  last  sentence  after  "dis- 

10  closed  by  such"  the  following:  "foreign  futures  author- 

11  ity,";  and 

12  (5)  by  inserting  in  the  last  sentence  after  "or 
IS  agency  thereof  the  following:  "or  foreign  futures  au- 

14  thority". 

15  TITLE  IV— AUTHORIZATION  OF 

16  APPRDPBIATIONS;  EFFECTIVE  DATE 

17  SEC  401.  AUTHORIZATION  OF  APPROPRIATIONS. 

18  Section    12(d)  of  the   Conunodity  Exchange  Act  {? 

19  U.S.C.  16(d))  is  amended  to  read  as  follows: 

20  "(d)  There  are  authorized  to  be  appropriated  to  carry 

21  out  this  Act — 

22  "(1)  $40,000,000  for  fiscal  year  1990;  and 

23  "(2)  $44,500,000  for  fiscal  year  1991.". 


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1  SEC.  402.  EFFECTIVE  DATE. 

2  The  proviBions  of,  and  amendments  made  by,  this  Act 
8   shall  be  effective  upon  enactment. 

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Svptaabar  G,  1989 

Th*  Honozabla  B  (Klka)  d*  la  Sana 
Chairauut,  Comlttaa  on  Aqrlcultura 
D.8.  Hous*  of  Rapraaantatlvaa 
1301  Longworth  Hona*  Otfica  Building 
Maahington,  D.C.  20515 

Daac  Mc.  Chainani 

The  ConBdaaion  la  pleaaed  to  expreaa  Ita  viawa  on  B.R.  2669,  tha 
CoBBodlty  Futurea  Iiqirovementa  Act  of  19B9,  aa  reported  by  yonx 
Conmittaa  on  Auguat  2,  19S9.   He  atrongly  aupport  the  pnrpoaa  of 
thia  bill  of  incraaaiag  public  confidence  in  the  integrity  of 
futnrea  marketa  by  dimlniahing  the  potential  for  trade  practice 
abuae  and  atrengthening  the  CommiaBion'B  regulatory  ayatam. 
Although  we  have  acme  reaervationa  over  certain  aapecta  of  tha 
bill,  w*  congratulate  you  and  the  other  raembara  of  the  Coimiittee, 
particularly  Subcommittee  Chairinan  Bngliah  and  Subcommittee 
Ranking  Minority  Member  Coleman,  in  developing  thia  la^ortant  and 
far-reaching  laglalation. 

There  are  a  number  of  proviaiona  in  the  bill  that  addceaa  alleged 
wrongdoinga  that  have  been  aet  forth  in  the  indictmenta  and 
admlniatrative  aettlementa  announced  aa  a  reault  of  the 
Inveatlgation  in  Chicago.   At  thia  time,  we  do  not  believe  that 
theae  actiona  have  dlacloaed  information  that  requlrea  any  other 
atatutory  changea.   If  we  find  that  additional  changea  in  the  law 
■re  neceaaary,  however,  we  will  pc(»^ly  recoomiend  them  to  the 
Cowaittee .  ' 


Aa  I  noted  In  my  earlier  teatimony,  the  Commlaaion  haa  undertaken 
a  study  of  certain  iaauea  regarding  dual  trading.   We  have  mode 
subatantial  progreaa  and  we  are  confidant  that  the  atudy  will  be 
coiqileted  early  thia  fall.   Baaed  on  the  reaulta  of  the  atudy, 
we  expect  to  initiate  a  rulemaking  concerning  dual  trading.   Ne 
believe  that  complex  iaauea  auch  aa  thoae  Involved  in  dual 


trading  axe  addreaaedimdat  effectively,  and  with  tha  greateat 


flexibility,  through  t|ulemaking  nndeft  our  current  atatutory 


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authority  rather  than  through  amandment  to  the  Commodity  Bxchanga 

In  any  event,  with  regard  to  the  specific  proviaiona  of  H.R. 
2869,  while  we  have  aoma  concarna  over  a  dual  trading  prohibition 
baaad  on  apaclflc  voluna  lavala,  wa  believe  the  bill  providea  for 
sufficient  flexibility  to  enable  the  CQinmlasiQD  to  Incraaae  or 
decrease  these  statutory  levels  on  a  market -by -market  laasis 
should  it  determine  that  such  sdjustments  are  warranted.    He  are 
alao  pleased  that  the  bill  racogniiea  that  the  audit  trail  alona, 
as  a  record  analysis  system,  cannot  detect  all  typaa  of  trade 
practice  violationa  and  therefore  is  not  the  aole  mechanism  upon 
which  an  exchange  may  base  its  request  for  an  exemption  from  the 
dual  trading  prohibition.   Instead,  the  bill  aats  forth  an 
exemptive  atandard  under  which  the  Commission  may  assess  the 
overall  ef fectiveneas  of  an  axchange'e  compliance  programs  rather 
than  being  obliged  to  determine  that  such  programs  detect  all 
instances  of  a  particular  abuse. 

He  still  believe,  however,  that  both  the  exeiptive  and  temporary 
waiver  standards  need  to  be  modified.   ?lrat,  GO  days  is  too 
short  B  tima  period  in  which  to  completa  ths  initial  evaluation 
of  exchange  programs  under  the  exemptive  standard.   This  is 
especially  so  since  it  is  likely  that  most,  if  not  all,  exchanges 
would  file  exemptions  at  about  the  same  tims,  which  would  have 
severe  rsaourcs  in^licationa  for  the  Commission.   Since  section 
5a(12)  of  the  Act  gives  the  Commission  six  months  to  review  a 
single  exchange  rule  submission,  H.R.  2669  should  give  the 
Commission  at  least  six  months  within  which  to  complete  its 
initial  evaluation. 

The  ten^iorary  waiver  process  also  requires  amendment.   In  order 
to  make  the  determination  called  for  —  that  the  exchange  ia 
likely  to  satisfy  the  exemptive  standard  —  the  Comniaaion 
essentially  would  have  to  perform  a  full  analysis  as  to  whether 
the  exchange  had  mat  ita  burden  of  meeting  the  ezei^ttion 
atandard.   He  suggest  that  the  bill,  be  amended  to  pemit  the 
Conmisaion  to  develop  appropriate  waiver  standards  a*  part  of  the 
regulations  concerning  dual  trading. 

huUt  Trail 

An  In^Toved  audit  trail  has  been  a  long-held  Comaisslon  goal  and 
w«  have  moved  aggressively  toward  this  goal  since  1986.  The 
trade  timing  standard  currently  in  effect  under  Commission  rules 
is  a  one-minute  atandard.   He  are  firmly  committed  to  improving 
the  audit  trail  in  the  ways  that  are  moat  affective  in  datactlng 
trade  practice  abuse.   In  this  regard,  we  believe  the  requirement 
to  decreaae  the  trade  timing  standard  to  30  seconds  or  leas  in 
three  years  should  be  deleted  from  B.R.  2669.  The  Comniaaion 
needs  maximum  flexibility  in  determining  whether  a  30-sacond 
standard  ia  appropriate  for  particular  exchanges  in  particular 


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circuiutancea.  In  other  olrouBatancaa  othar  audit  trail 
in^rovementB  may  be  more  effactiva  in  datocting  and  prnvsnting 
trada  practice  abiiee  than  a  30~BECi:>nd  atandiird.   For  exaicpiei  it 

eXBcution  and  trade  reporting  systeins,  and  to  impose  more 
rigoroua  trading,  racord  collection,  tine  atomping  and  racord- 
kaaping  requirement*,  which  voiild  improve  audit  trails  and 
provida  other  benefits.   Th«  Commiaaion  has  recently 
anaouncad  propoaad  rulaa  in  this  araa. 

B.R>  3BG9  also  would  pravant  th*  Commission  from  designating  an 
exchange  to  trade  a  new  futures  contract  unless  the  exchange  oan 
show  that  every  contract  market  for  which  it  is  presently 
designated  complias  with  the  audit  trail  requirements  injioBed  by 
new  section  4g(b)(2)  of  the  Act.   Although  we  understand  that  for 
purposes  of  compilance,  the  CoDcnission  may  set  trade  timing 
verifiable  accuracy  levelB  at  less  than  100%,  we  nevertheless  ara 
concarnad  that  an  exchange  which  axceeds  these  levels  in 
virtually  all  cases  must  ba  denied  a  new  designation.  If,  for 
exorapi*'  Qn*  contract  market  within  the  exchange  is  unabia  to 
achieve  that  level  for  a  given  period  becauoa  of  particularly 
heavy  volume  or  volatility,  this  is  overly  restrictive  and  could 
prevent  now  products  from  being  introduced  to  the  detriment  cf 
the  nation's  economy.   He  believe  the  better  approach  la  that 
taken  under  present  law  where  the  Commission  aaaeaaea  an 
exchange  b  overall  parfortaanca  prior  to  deelgnatlon.   As  noted 
above  this  approach  la  also  more  consistent  with  the  exeaptlve 
standard  the  bill  providea  in  the  dual  trading  provlalons. 

Brcksr  AsBociotiona 

We  agree  that  it  ia  io^ortant  for  the  Comtiasion  to  define  and 

identify  broker  assoeifttions  for  the  purpoaaa  of  aurveillanca  and 
compliance  programs  and  we  are  currently  interviewing  broker 
association  participants  and  stjdying  current  exchange  practices. 
Our  study  should  be  completed  early  this  fall.  He  believe  that 
rulemaking  is  more  appropriate  than  setting  a  statutory  limit  on 
trading  between  aoaociation  memberB  aa  set  forth  in  H.R.  3869. 
Effective  monitoring  of  broker  association  activities  m4y  wall 
require  restrictions  to  be  tailored  to  particular  markets.   Ia 
this  regard,  paragraph  (3)  of  new  section  4j(c)  could  form  the 
basis  of  this  type  of  rulemaking,  and  in  our  view,  would  be 
sufficient  statutory  coverage  of  this  area  at  this  time. 

Telemarketing  rrand 

B.R.  2S69  limits  its  focus  on  telemarketing  to  members  of  tuturea 
associations  against  whom  some  action  has  been  taken.   Ha 
believe  the  scope  of  this  provision  should  be  broadened  to 
ei^ower  the  Cooniiasion  to  sat  the  standards  under  which  the 
association  would  allow  nanbara  to  solicit  new  account a  by 
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Oad«xcoT*r  Authority 

He  are  plaased  that  H.H.  2669  recognizaa  th*  Ijiportanca  of 
cooparatlva  law  enforcenwnt  with  other  agencies.   We  Blao 
strongly  support  the  bill's  intention  to  send  a  signal  that  these 
typea  of  undercover  activities  may  be  undertaken  at  any  time. 


Tha  CooKiLisiian  supports  the  provision  that  would  bar  individual 
DHnnberB  with  algniflcant  dlaciplinary  records  from  service  on 
disciplinary  or  governing  panela  of  exchangea  and  futures 
aasoclations  for  a  fixed  period  of  time.   We  ar^   Already 
undertaking  a  rulemaking  in  this  area. 

Co^Misition  of  Disciplinary  CoaBlttees  and  Goreming  Boards 

He  are  concerned  that  the  requirement  in  H.R.  3869  that  a 
majority  of  coiBlttee  meadMrs  bs  from  a  different  sector  of 
•xchange  member a hip  than  the  parson  appearing  before  the 
c<mmittee  may  diminish  the  technical  expertise  of  the  group 
enough  to  slow  down  the  process  and  to  render  a  leas  effective 
and  appropciate  decision.   We  auggaat  that  the  requirements 
regarding  comaittse  composition  and  the  stages  in  the 
disciplinary  process  should  be  addressed  in  a  flexible  manner 
ellowing  for  diversity  across  exchanges. 

B.R.  2069  also  requires  that  20  percent  of  exchange  and  futurea 
aaaociation  governing  boards  be  conposed  of  "outside'  members,  aa 
defined  by  the  ConmisHian.   While  we  favor  'outside'  members  and 
will  develop  a  broad  definition  to  Include  groups  such  as  market 
users,  we  continue  to  be  concerned  that  a  statutory  quota  system 
may  not  always  achieve  the  desired  results.   In  19B5  we  found 
that  the  performance  of  public  directors  sometimes  was  limited  by 
dirsctora'  abaenteelam,  failure  to  prepare  sufficiently,  and 
failure  to  provide  expert  asalatanca.   These  factors  should  be 
recognized  and  considered  before  further  restrictions  concerning 
board  membership  become  part  of  the  statute  or  the  CooniBaion ' a 

Required  Rffgietratlon  of  Floor  Traders 
The  CommisaioQ  supports  this  provision. 
Enhancement  of  Registration  Reqoireaenta 
The  Commission  supports  this  proviaion. 
Enforcement  of  Civil  Honey  Penalties 
The  Commission  supports  this  provision. 


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The  ConimlBBioil  supports  this  pr^vlalon. 

Ha-tiomrida  Sarvic«  of  Procaaa  and  Veaua 

Tha  CoimiBBicin  support*  this  provision. 

iDcreaaad  Fanaltiaa  Cor  Falony  Convlctiona 

Th«  C^mlaaion  aupporta  this  provision. 

Contrttot  Harket  Ifparjency  AotioDs 

During  its  markup,  tha  Committa*  nodifiad  H.R.  2869  to  provide 
that  an  axchaoc)*  naad  not  obtain  Comnission  approval  before  it 
may  take  emergency  action,  although  it  must  make  every  effort  to 
give  tha  Commission  prior  notice  of  such  an  action.   While  we 
continue  to  believe  that  there  is  no  necessity  for  any  change  in 
exchange  emergency  authority,  we  support  the  Committee's  approach 
as  more  in  keeping  with  the  concept  of  axchanga  accountability 
and  rasponsibllity  aa  a  a elf -regulator. 

The  Committee  bill  also  provides  that  within  tea  days  (or  aa  soon 
as  practicable)  after  receipt  of  an  exchange  emergency  rule  and 
explanation,  the  Commission  must  approve  or  disapprove  the  rule 
and  file  a  report  with  Congraaa  justifying  its  action.   Me 
understand  that  under  this  provision,  the  timing  of  the 
Commission's  response  may  be  tailored  so  as  to  avoid  undue  market 
consequences.   For  Example,  if  there  were  more  than  ten  trading 
days  remaining  in  a  contract  after  the  exchange  action,  the 
Commission  could  defer  its  dscision  and  not  report  until  trading 
ended,  if  prior  action  might  interfere  with  orderly  trading. 


did  not  intend  to  require  that  the  , Commission  coo^lete  its  final 
analysis  of  the  exchange  action  in  that  tima  or  to  immunize  the 
exchange  from  later  scrutiny  of  its  emergency  actions.   In  this 
regard,  we  believe  the  Committee  report  should  make  clear  that 
Commission  approval  would  not  insulate  the  exchanges  from 
subsequent  civil  liability  to  market  participants  or  from 
Commission  regulatory  or  enforcement  accountability  under  the 
Act,  should  these  be  appropriate  when  all  relevant  facte  and 
clrcomatances  are  reviewed  by  the  Commission  or  otherwise  become 
known  at  a  later  date. 


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G«)  Stndr  of  DallTscy  Points 

Th«  ConmiBBlon  suppocta  this  provision.. 

Trading  on  Hatcrial  Ron-pnblic  Inlorwatlon 

Tba  Comdaaion  supporta  now  saction  9(f}  of  tha  Act  which  will 
niaha  it  a  talony  for  amployeas  of  Balf-regulotory  orgBnizations 
OE  aasibara  of  thaii:  govarnlng  boards  and  committaas ,  to  usa  or 
disolosa,  contrary  to  Commiaslon  ragulatlona,  matarial, 
non-public  information  for  non-official  purposas.   The 
Connlsslon'B  currant  ragulations  alraady  addrass  thla  typa  of 
activity. 

R.R.  2669  would  alao  add  new  sactlona  9(g)  and  9(h)  to  tha  Act. 
Saction  9[g]  would  make  it  b  felony  for  an  individual,  contrary 
to  Commission  regulations,  to  usa  bs  the  basis  for  any  connodity 
futures  or  option  transaction  for  his  or  her  own  account,  any 
matarial,  non-poblio  information  as  to  present  or  future  cash 
commodity  or  commodity  future  or  option  transactions  of  any 
person  of  whom  tha  individual  is  an  employes  or  principal  whara 
the  aggregate  of  auch  transactions  are  in  amouata  in  excaaa  of 
reporting  levels  apacifiad  by  the  Commisslan  purauant  to  aaction 
41  of  the  Act.  Section  9(h)  would  inaka  it  b  felony  for  any  auch 
aiploy**  or  principal  to  disclose  such  information  conoamlng  hie 
fim'a  transactions  with  the  Intent  that  the  recipient  engage  in 
coKBodity  futures  or  option  transactions  on  the  basis  of  tha 
information  and  where  the  disclosure  is  unrelated  to  the  firm's 
buainaas.   The  Ccmmiaaion  understanda  that  its  regulations  to 
implement  section  9(g)  may  provide  for  appropriate  exemptions, 
for  Bxasple,  where  commodity  producers  who  are  also  enployees  of 
grain  elevators  establish  their  own  hedging  poaitiono. 

Tha  Commission  has  some  concerns  cvar  these  two  provlsiona.   We 
have  not  found  problems  associated  with  the  misuse  of  proprietary 
information  aa  contenplated  by  proposed  sections  9(g)  and  9(h)  t^ 
an^Xoyees  of  reportable  tradera.   And  while  aa  a  general  matter 
wa  agree  that  employees  should  not  misuse  their  time' 
information  for  personal  gain  in  the  futures  or  optlone  markets, 
wa  believe  more  information  regarding  tha  nature  and  magnitude  of 
this  problam  is  needed  in  order  to  justify  statutory  aolutions 
like  those  in  tha  bill. 

Ao  an  altasnative,  we  are  prepared  to  use  our  existing  rulemalcing 
authority  to  addrese  this  issue,  to  adopt  any  regulatory 
prohibitions  that  may  be  warranted  and  to  report  to  Congress  on 
any  criminal  provisions  or  other  legislative  changes  that  may  be 
necessary.   A  rulemalcing  effort  will  permit  ua  to  focua  on  such 
complex  questions  as  the  type  of  firm  information  on  cash  and 
futures  positions  that  should  be  protected  from  misappropriation, 
tdiich  ei^loyees  and  principals  should  be  covered,  whether  trading 


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uid  diBcloanre  rulaa  should  bm   lc«y«d  only  to  reportable  tr&ders 
aa  In  the  bill  or  be  moce  broadly  based,  the  scope  of  appropriate 
exemptions  for  personal  hedging  and  other  legitimate  purposes  and 
irtiether  the  rules  should  apply  to  trading  and  disclosure  In 
related  coantodity  groups .   Wn  would  welcome  report  language 
•ndoraing  this  approach. 

Co^Mtitiveneaa  Study 

The  Comnlsaion  supports  this  provision. 

Mooitoring  of  Hedge  BxeaptiMia 

The  Coaniaaion  supports  thia  provision. 

AeaiBtamca  to  Foreign  Fatoraa  Jtnthoritlaa 

The  C<]^BiBBion  supports  this  provision. 

Parlod  of  Raaiithoriaation 

tie  aupport  the  etated  Intention  of  B.R.  2869  to  make  the 
Comnodity  futures  Trading  Comniasion  a  permanent  agency. 
Feraanent  authorization  ia  consistent  with  regular  and  aotiva 
Congreasional  oversight  of  the  agency  which  the  Commiaaion  haa 
alwaya  supported. 

We  eppreciate  thla  opportunity  to  praaent  our  vlswa  to  the 
Conaittee.   Pleaae  be  aaaured  that  the  ooncarna  expressed  above 
with  respect  to  certain  aapecta  of  H.R.  2869  do  not  detract  frcM 
our  support  of  the  goals  of  thia  bill- 


Very  truly  yours, 
Wend^  C.  Gram     'J- 


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8«ptud>«r  12,  1909 

The  Banorabl«  B  (Kllca)  d*  la  Gacza 
Chairman,  Coiiiiiiltt*«  on  Agriculture 
D.S.  Bouse  of  Repreeentativea 
1301  Longworth  House  Office  Building 
Haahington,  D.C.  20515 

Dear  Mr.  Chairman i 

Aa  you  will  recall,  on  January  23  and  July  IT,  19B9i  we  Bubnittad 
for  consideration  by  the  House  Agriculture  Coontittee  our 
recMHMndationa  for  anendnenta  to  the  Conmodity  Exchange  Act.   Aa 
explained  in  thosa  ■ubniaaiona ,  theaa  apiendnenta  would  enhance 
the  enforcenent  of  the  Act  by  providing  for  cooperation  with 
foreign  futures  law  enforcement  authorities,  nationwide  service 
of  process  and  venue  in  private  rights  of  action,  flexibility  in 
imposing  civil  monetary  penalties  and  registration  of  floor 
traders.   I  am  pleased  that  H.R.  2869  as  reported  by  the 
Ccmmittee  Includes  all  of  these  proposals. 

Title  III  of  the  bill  would  permit  the  Conmisslon  to  assist 
foreign  future*  authorities.   Thn  bill's  definition  of  foreign 
futures  authority  includes  a  broad  range  of  authorities, 
including  Independent  governmental  regulatory  agencies,  executive 
agencies,  local  governmental  authorities,  self -regulatory 
organizations  and  criminal  authorities  that  edminlater  or  enforce 
rules  or  regulationa  as  they  relate  to  futures  and  options 

In  particular,  the  bill  would  permit  the  CojanisBlon  to  conduct 
investigations  upon  the  request  of  a  foreign  futures  authority 
without  regard  to  whether  the  facts  stated  In  the  request 
constitutv  a  violation  of  U.S.  law.   To  facilitate  the 
de  'olopmeiit  of  a  working  relationship  with  authoritlBs  that  have 
the  broadest  legal  mandate  to  oversee  future»  aad   options 
matters,  it  is  expected  that  the  Coinmlssion  will  act  upon  such 
investigative  requests  from  a  single  authority  or  only  n  few 
authorities  in  each  country.  Instead  of  from  a  wide  range  of 
self -regulatory  organizations  with  varying  responsibilities. 
In  providing  assistance,  the  Coamlssion  would  be  required  to 
consider  the  public  interest  and  the  agreement  of  the  foreign 
futures  authority  to  provide  reciprocal  assistance  to  the 
Commission.   The  Cc^mission  believes  that  investigative 
assistance  from  foreign  authorltlea  would  be  a  powerful  tool  in 


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•ffttotivaly  «nfoEciiig  th«  Coimodity  Bxchang*  Act  in 
invaatigatioiiB  that  zequica  the  gatheiing  o(  Information  froa 
forsign  sources   The  CominiBsion  expeetn  the  availability  of  lt« 
aaalatance  to  foreign  futures  authorities  to  act  as  a  strong 
indac«B*nt  to  t-hese  authorltifie  to   obtain  similar  authority  Co 
assist  the  Commission.   As  you  are  aware,  th*  proposed 
investigative  authority  closely  parallels  the  authority  obt«in«d 
by  the  Securities  and  Exchange  CommiBSion  last  y«ac  In  •action  6 
of  th«  Insider  Trading  and  Sacucitiaa  Fraud  Bnforcanant  Act  of 
19SS. 

In  addition,  Titla  Ill's  amandMant  to  aactlon  S(a)  of  the  Act 

provides  protection  from  compelled  disclosura  of  infomation 
identified  in  good  faith  to  the  CotimiBsion  by  a  foreign  futures 
authority  as  protected  from  such  diBCloaure  undar  foreign  law. 
However,  section  8(a)  does  not  preclude  the  discloaura  of  such 
information  in  the  proceedings  referenced  therein.   Thia 
protection  from  compelled  diHclosure  is  neceaeary  to  achieve  the 
full  measure  of  effective  cooperation  vith  foreign  futures 
authorities  in  enforcement  mattarsi  and  is  conalstant  with  other 
proviaiona  of  aactlon  8  of  th«  Act  which  alraady  protect  certain 
catagorias  of  infomation  from  public  disclosure,  in  accordance 
with  subsection  (b)(3)(B)  of  section  552  of  title  S,  United 
States  Code. 

Section  209  of  B.R.  2669  would  amend  the  Act  to  authorise 
nationwide  service  of  process  in  private  actions  brought  under 
section  22  of  the  Act,  the  provision  which  permits  customers  to 
seek  damages  for  violations  of  the  Act.   The  amendment  would 
empower  U.S.  district  courts  sitting  anywhere  in  the  United 
States  to  issue  process  against  a  particular  defendant  without 
regard  to  whether  the  plaintiff  can  establish  that  the  defendant 
had  minimum  contacts  with  the  state  in  which  the  U.S.  district 
court  is  located    The  propoHal  also  includes  special  venue 
provisions  for  section  22  actions  to  grant  plaintiffs  greater 
choice  In  their  selection  of  the  particular  forum  in  which  to 

Tha  amendment  is  prompted  by  a  19ST  Suprena  Court  decision  which 
ruled  that  authorization  for  nationwide  service  of  process  in 
private  actions  was  not  implicit  in  the  Commodity  Exchange  Act. 
As  a  result,,  without  this  amendment  plaintiffs  may  be  precluded 
from  suing  non-U. S.  defendants  anywhere  in  thia  country.   And  as 
against  U.S.  defendants,  private  plaintiffs  will  be  subject  to 
the  burden  and  expense  of  proving  that  the  defendant  is  amenable 
to  service  under  a  state  "long-arm  statute,"  and,  failing  this, 
they  may  be  relegated  to  suing  in  an  inconvenient  forum.   This 
amendment  would  place  commodity  futures  customers  on  the  same 
footing  as  aecurities  cuatomecB,  in  circumstances  where  there 
arises  a  need  for  resort  to  federal  court  litigation,  because  the 
federal  securities  laws  expressly  provide  for  nationwide  service 
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Section  207  of  H.R.  2ee9  would  WMnd  tha  Act  to  (1)  aliminate  tba 
requirement  that  CFTC  conaider  A  wrongdonr 'a  financial 
circumstances  In  assessing  a  civil  penalty  and  (2)  provide  that 
if  the  wrongdoer  doea  not  pay  the  penalty  when  dua,  his  existing 
registration  with  the  CFTC  would  outomaticolly  be  ouBpended  and 
the  wrongdoer  woald  automatically  be  prohibited  from  trading  on 
all  exchanqea.   This  provision  will  facilitate  and  provide  more 
flexibility  to  the  Commission's  admin is trative  law  enforcement 
process  in  •electing  appropriate  sanctione  and  will  provide 
additional  statutory  incentives  to  wrongdoers  to  pay  penalties 
promptly.   Congress  has  already  provided  auch  incentives  in 
-connection  with  unpaid  reparations  judgments. 

Under  existing  section  6(d)  of  the  Act,  the  Comnission  must  not 
only  consider  the  gravity  of  the  violation  in  imposing  a  monetary 
penalty,  but  also  evidence  relating  to  the  penalty's  effect  on 
the  wrongdoer's  net  worth  or  ability  to  continue  in  business. 
Because  this  type  of  evidence  ia  generally  controlled  by 
respondents,  the  Commission  has  required  them  to  come  forward 
with  a  showing  that  a  proposed  penalty  is  excessive  in  light  of 
their  net  worth  or  ability  to  continue  in  business.   Respondents 
that  did  not  wish  to  produce  such  evidence  have  been  permitted  to 
waive  the  financial  inquiry  mandated  by  the  Act.   The  Comraiasion 
has  viewed  its  waiver  approach  as  consistent  with  Congress' 
intention  that  respondents  have  protection  from  excessive  civil 
penalties.   However,  disputes  over  the  proper  application  of 
section  6(d)  have  generated  considerable  litigation,  including 
several  appeals  to  the  Courts  of  Appeals.   This  litigation  itself 
has  been  an  additional  burden  on  the  Commission's  enforcement 
program.   Some  courts  have  interpreted  the  law  less  flexibly  than 
the  -Commission  and  have  required  development  of  an  evidentiary 
record  on  net  worth  or  ability  to  pay  whenever  the  Commission 
igiposes  a  civil  monetary  penalty  in  an  adjudicatory  proceeding. 
This  is  particularly  difficult  when  the  respondent,  who  possesses 
the  information,  fails  or  refuses  to  provide  the  evidence  for  the 

Another  troubling  aspect  of  the  net  worth  inquiry  has  cone  to 
light  where  a  respondent  claima  inBolvency.   Specifically,  a 
United  States  bankruptcy  court  has  blocked  the  Commission's 
prosecution  of  an  administrative  case,  in  part  because  the  court 
was  persuaded  that  the  Commission's  obligation  to  consider  net 
worth  would  interfere  with  the  respondents'  personal  bankruptcy 
reorganizations.   The  Commission  has  appealed  that  decision. 

Thus,  the  Cotmnission  believes  that  the  statutory  requirement  to 
consider  financial  circumstances  has  been  misconstrued  to  become 
an  inhibition  to  effective  enforcement  of  the  Act  and  should  ba 
deleted  as  provided  by  section  207  of  the  bill.  This  deletion 
would  not  limit  the  Commiaaion'B  discretion  to  consider  factors 
relevant  to  the  remedial  purposes  of  existing  section  6(d). 
These  factors  may  include:  (1)  the  harm  to  other  persona 


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reaulting  tram   the  violation)  (2)  Bonatary  or  other  b«n«fit  to 
the  wrongdoar;  <3|  wh«theT  thera  haa  b«en  any  caatltution  aada  to 
paraona  injuradf  J4)  prior  aanctiona  Inpoaad  by  tba  CFTC  or  othar 
•uthorltlaa)  (5)  factors  tending  to  ahow  mitigation  or 
rahabilitation;  and  (6)  tha  naad  to  detar  tha  wrongdoar  and 
othara  trcm  coMBittin?  thaae  violationa. 

Ragiatratlon  of  floor  tradara  aa  provided  by  aection  205  of  B.R. 
2869  would  alao  aaaiat  law  enforcamant.   Hiatorically,  floor 
tradara  have  not  baan  raquirad  to  reglater  andar  tha  Act  bacauaa 
they  do  not  handle  caatoster  tradea  or  monay  and  bacauaa  exchange 
rulaa  have  eotabliahad  criteria  governing  thair  acceaa  to  the 
floor.   Bowavar,  if  floor  tradara  collude  with  brokara  in 
violation  of  the  Act  or  of  Comiaaion  regulationa,  thay  ahould  be 
anbjact  to  tha  aaaa  regulatory  aanctiona.   By  requiring  floor 
tradara  to  raaiatar,  the  bill  would  aubjact  th«M  to  atatutory 
diaquallflcation  and  fitnaaa  raguirementa  Ilka  other  raglatranta. 


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Septembec  12,  1989 


>!•  B  da  la  Garza 
Chairaan 

CoaMlttee  on  Agrlcultura 
U.S.  Kousa  of  RapraBBntatlva* 
Washington,  D.c.  20515 

Daar-Mr.  Chairaan: 

Thia  Is  to  raltarata  tha  viaws  of  tha  Depsrtaant  of  Juatica 
ragarding  anandBants  to  H.R.  1869,  tha  propoaad  Coanodlty  Puturaa 
Inprovaaant  Act,  which  vara  adoptad  by  tha  Subcoiuiitt»  on 
Conaarvation,  Cradlt  and  Rural  Devalopmant  on  July  26,  19B9  and 
dalatad  by  tha  full  Cosnittaa  on  Auguat  2,    1989.   Ha  undaratand 
that  tha  amandnants  nay  ba  oftared  again  whan  H.R.  2869  !■ 
Consldarad  on  tha  floor  of  tha  Houaa.   Thasa  anandnenta, 
pravioualy  offarad  by  congrasaBan  Tallon,  would  anact  criBinal 
sanctions  for  an  abusa  arising  froB  dual  trading  on  futuraa 
exchangaa.  Undar  thaaa  amendnants,  'front  running,'  in  which  a 
brohar  tradas  for  his  own  account  shaad  of  his  cuatonars,  would 
ba  prohibited  speclfloally  and  a  tmowlng  violation  of  that 
prohibition  would  ba  punlahabla  as  a  falony. 


Ab  wa  pravioualy  indlcatad,  the  Departnant  raviawad  tha 
amandBBnta  and  datamlnad  that  tha  axisting  antlfraud  provisions 
of  tha  Connodity  Exchanga  Act  as  wall  as  tha  Bail  and  wlra  fraud 
provialona  of  Titla  IB  provide  agiple  statutory  authority  to 
proceed  against  front  running  offansaa.   Horeovar,  proaacutlon  of 
front  running  offenses  would  not  be  facilitated  by  thaaa 
anendnenta.   Front  running  la  in  our  opinion  a  violation  of  tha 
Cosaodlty  Exchange  Act  and  Title  is  and  thus  is  adequately 
addraasad  by  existing  law.   Accordingly,  we  urge  tha  defeat  of 
any  effort  to  adopt  these  aBendaenta  when  tha  neasure  is 
considered  by  the  full  House. 


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Dapartsant  that  thara  ia  no  objection  to  tha  submlaalon  of  thl* 
raport  from  the  standpoint  of  the  Adainlatration'a  pcogran. 


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Mr.  English.  Mr.  Coleman. 

OPENING  STATEMENT  OF  HON.  E.  THOMAS  COLEMAN,  A 
REPRESENTATIVE  IN  CONGRESS  FROM  THE  STATE  OF  MISSOURI 

Mr.  Coleman.  Mr.  Chairman,  today  we  begin  the  fourth  reau- 
thorization of  the  CFTC  in  its  15-year  history.  We  do  so  at  a  very 
critical  time  in  the  Commission's  history,  the  industry  that  it  regu- 
lates, and  the  customers  that  that  industry  serves. 

We  are  all  aware  of  the  innovations  that  have  taken  place  in  the 
futures  industry  in  the  last  10  years  or  so.  Initiatives  such  as  stock 
index  futures  and  related  instruments  have  changed  the  complex- 
ion of  the  futures  industry.  These  and  other  initiatives  have  provid- 
ed the  industry  with  the  tools  it  needs  to  conduct  international 
commerce  in  today's  global  economy.  Yet  many  of  its  daily  business 
practices  continue  as  they  have  for  years  in  Uie  face  of  these  dra- 
matic innovations  the  industry  has  experienced. 

Therefore,  I  think  it  is  appropriate  for  us  to  discuss  publicly  the 
questions  raised  when  innovation  and  tradition  meet  and  whether 
we  have  in  place  the  saf^uards  necessary  to  protect  the  customer 
and  the  int^rity  of  the  markets.  That  is,  I  think,  a  very  important 
part  of  this  reauthorization  deliberation  which  we  are  starting 
today. 

With  this  in  mind,  I  am  somewhat  surprised  and  disappointed 
that  our  witness  list  includes  so  few  users,  particularly  b^ks  and 
other  financial  institutions.  Of  course,  I  look  forward  to  hearing 
from  representatives  of  primary  users,  such  as  the  Nationsil  Grain 
Trade  Council.  I  believe  their  testimony  will  be  important  and 
useful  to  this  subcommittee.  Even  so,  I  would  think  that  ottier  seg- 
ments of  the  futures  markets  would  want  to  be  heard. 

Not  long  ago  this  subcommittee  and  many  people  in  this  country 
were  concerned  about  stock  index  futures  and  the  relationship  be- 
tween these  markets  and  securities.  For  this  reason,  I  think  it  is 
unfortunate  that  other  regulators  of  financial  markets  who  were 
invited  to  be  here  today — Securities  and  Exchange  Commission, 
Federal  Reserve,  the  President's  Working  Group — have  all  declined 
to  appear  before  us. 

Just  one  additional  observation:  We  are  all  enormously  grateful 
that  the  predicted  economic  collapse  following  the  October  19  stock 
market  drop  did  not  occur.  For  this  reason,  some  people  have  for- 
gotten that  important  event.  But  I  think  this  subcommittee  has  a 
duty  to  remember  it  and  to  help  the  Nation  learn  from  it. 

Mr.  Chairman,  as  we  turn  our  consideration  to  the  Commodity 
Futures  Improvements  Act  of  1989,  I  want  to  b^in  by  stating  my 
primary  reason  for  supporting  this  bill.  I  believe  Uie  industry  needs 
to  make  more  prepress  in  refining  its  audit  trail  system.  You  may 
recall  that  we  considered  this  matter  during  the  1986  reauthoriza- 
tion when  the  Commission  was  seeking  a  new  standard  for  trade 
recordation.  At  that  time,  the  industry  said  that  such  a  standard 
would  drive  business  overseas.  In  fact,  trade  volume  records  indi- 
cate that  that  hfis  not  happened.  In  fact,  I  believe,  an  enhanced 
audit  trail  proved  its  worth  following  the  October  1987,  market 
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Accordingly,  Mr.  Chairman,  while  I  understand  the  exchanges 
are  making  significant  pn^^resB  in  their  syBtems  and  commend 
them  for  it,  I  think  it  is  time  for  Congress  to  establish  some  stand- 
ards in  the  law  dealing  with  audit  trails.  I  believe  the  effort  and 
expense  of  doing  so  will  be  more  than  offset  in  the  future  aa  domes- 
tic and  global  market  users  trade  with  the  confidence  that  our  fu- 
tures markets  are  the  fairest  and  the  most  efficient  in  the  world. 

As  you  know,  under  the  bill  before  us,  dual  trading  will  be  pro- 
hibited in  certain  markets  under  certain  conditions  until  additional 
standards  are  met.  We  have  heard  fi*om  some  trsiders  that  a  ban  on 
dual  trading  will  harm,  not  protect  customers.  They  state  that  the 
better  traders  will  trade  their  own  accounts,  leaving  the  customer 
orders  to  inexperienced  or  inefficient  traders.  While  this  firgument 
is  plausible  Eind  although  we  have  enabled  the  customer  to  name 
his  own  broker  who  may  also  be  trading  for  his  own  account,  I  am 
willing  in  these  hearings  to  accept  additional  testimony  on  this 
matter. 

I  would  also  note  that  pursuant  to  the  wishes  of  this  subcommit- 
tee and  the  committee  chairman,  this  bill  would  discontinue  the  4- 
year  reauthorization  cycle.  We  believe  that  a  2-year  dollar-specific 
authorization  will  provide  a  better  opportunity  for  us  on  this  com- 
mittee to  perform  our  oversight  responsibilities  and  be  more  re- 
sponsive to  CommiBsion  and  market  needs.  I  look  forward  to  these 
hearings  and  the  distinguished  list  of  witnesses  that  we  have  in  the 
next  several  days  and  look  forward  to  continuing  our  work  togeth- 
er, Mr.  Chairmfui,  as  we  mark  up  this  bill  hopefully  by  the  end  of 
this  July.  Thank  you. 

Mr.  EStolish.  Tliank  you  very  much,  Mr.  Coleman.  Mr.  Morrison. 

OPENING  STATEMENT  OF  HON.  SID  MORRISON,  A  REPRESENTA- 
TIVE IN  CONGRESS  FROM  THE  STATE  OF  WASHINGTON 

Mr.  Morrison.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman.  I  chose  not  to  cospcm- 
sor  the  measure  before  us,  but  I  compliment  our  chairman  and 
ranking  minority  member  for  at  least  heading  us  down  a  legisla- 
tive trfiil  and  it  be,  of  course,  the  subject  of  I  think,  some  rather 
intense  interest  and  experience  that  is  starting  this  morning.  I  ap- 
proach the  subject  with  a  very  open  mind.  Futures  trading  is  not 
vitally  important  in  my  area  of  agriculture,  so  I  am  going  to  listen 
to  Neal  Smith  and  others,  our  experts  on  the  subject,  because  of 
the  importance  in  their  own  area. 

I  agree  with  my  colleague,  Mr.  Coleman,  that  audit  trsiil  is  going 
to  be,  I  believe,  a  significant  part  of  our  requirement.  TowiutI  the 
industry  in  general,  let  ub  make  sure  it  works,  that  is  our  obliga- 
tion. The  subcommittee  if  it  does  work,  do  not  fix  it.  If  it  does  not, 
we  will  do  it  right. 

Mr.  English.  Thank  you  very  much.  Mr.  Harris. 

Mr.  Harris.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman,  and  I  would  ask  a  unani- 
mous consent  that  my  statement  be  made  part  of  the  record. 

Mr.  English.  Without  objection. 

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Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman,  and  good  morninf  to  all.  I  am  glad  that  this  hearing 
procees  has  at  last  b^un  on  the  matter  of  CFTC  Reauthorization,  as  1  believe  that 
many  of  our  constituents  are  eager  to  see  what  positive  affect  this  subcommittee 
will  chooae  to  make  on  an  industry  that  has  lately  cieen  under  a  very  critical  magni- 
fying glass.  It  is  certain  that  as  the  hearings  proceed  we  will  hear  testimony  that 
will  speak  to  whether  such  critical  scrutiny  of  the  futures  trading  industry,  and,  of 
course,  the  CFTC,  in  particular,  is  justified  or  not. 

For  myaelf,  I  will  reserve  judgment  and  wait  to  draw  conclusions  until  th«ee  hear- 
ings are  concluded.  However,  no  one  can  deny  that  public  perception  of  the  intMrity 
of  the  commodity  ^tures  trading  markets  and  their  re^latoty  overseer,  the  CFTC, 
is  of  vital  importance  to  our  economy  and,  ultimately,  the  welfare  of  every  Ameri- 
can: The  end  Duvers  and  users  of  these  commodities. 

Unquestionablv  some  of  the  perceived  int^prity  of  the  markets  has  been  damaged 
and  I  feel  that  tnis  inquiry  into  any  legislative  and  r^ulatoty  shortcomings  of  the 
system  will  be  a  signincant  "first  step  toward  shoring  up  whatever  damage  may 
tuive  been  done  to  this  necessary  component  of  our  free  market  system.  Thank  you. 

Mr.  English.  Mb.  Long. 

Ms.  Long.  No  statement,  Mr.  Chairman. 

Mr.  English.  Mr.  Staggers. 

Mr.  Staggers.  No,  Mr.  Chairman. 

Mr.  English.  Mr.  Sarpalius,  do  you  have  any  comments  that  you 
care  to  make? 

Mr.  Sahpalius.  No,  Mr.  Chairman. 

Mr.  English.  We  are  very  delighted  that  our  first  witness  today 
is  a  person  who  has  long  been  interested  in  the  subject  of  the  ^- 
tures  industry  and  has  been  quite  outspoken;  one  who  has  presents 
ed  a  number  of  views  that  I  think  people  have  from  time  to  time 
cometo  adopt;  and  one  of  those  who  was  there  with  the  creation  of 
the  CFTC  and  participated  in  that  overall  effort;  and  one  who  is 
highly  respected  for  his  knowledge  of  the  futures  industry. 

And,  of^  course,  I  am  speaking  of  our  colleague.  Congressman 
Neal  Smith.  Neal,  we  are  delighted  to  have  you  here  this  morning 
and  would  be  happy  to  receive  your  testimony. 

STATEMENT  OF  HON.  NEAL  SMITH,  A  REPRESENTATIVE  IN 
CONGRESS  FROM  THE  STATE  OF  IOWA 

Mr.  Smith.  Thank  you  very  much,  Mr.  Chairman,  for  those  com- 
ments. Mr.  Chairman  and  members  of  the  committee,  I  want  to 
coi^rratulate  you  for  making  the  first  serious  attempt  to  find  out 
what  is  wrong  with  the  act  and  do  something  about  it.  In  15  years, 
there  has  been  a  lot  of  talk,  but  there  really  has  not  been  any  seri- 
ous attempt  to  fill  in  the  shortcomings  and  you  are  doing  it.  And  I 
really  want  to  congratulate  you  for  that. 

I  will  file  my  statement  smd  make  a  few  comments  here. 

Mr.  E^NGLiSH.  Without  objection,  your  complete  written  testimony 
will  be  made  a  part  of  the  record. 

Mr.  Smith.  You  know,  15  years  ago  we  held  6  months  of  heeuings 
over  at  the  Small  Business  Committee  and  then  this  committee 
held  hearings  aiter  that.  And  it  was  clear  at  the  time  that  we  had 
about  three  alternatives.  The  first  one  was  to  ban  futures  all  to- 
gether. At  that  time  we  could  have  easily  passed  a  bill  f^m  the 
Congress  banning  futures  all  together.  The  second  option  was  to 
put  it  all  under  SEC  and  there  was  a  lot  of  criticism  about  setting 
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But  I  was  one  of  those  who  thought  that  it  waa  best  to  have  a 
separate  commission,  especially  in  the  case  of  commodities.  Be- 
cause I  think  commodities  and  financial  instruments  are  somewhat 
different.  And  you  will  notice  that  the  name  of  the  commission  is 
the  Commodity  Futures  Trading  CommisBion.  It  is  not  the  financial 
futures  trading  commission.  That  was  the  primary  reason  fin* 
having  a  separate  commission. 

I  thjnk  that  the  basic  act  that  we  passed  in  the  House  was  pretty 
good,  but  by  the  time  we  got  throiigh  conference  at  that  time  there 
were  some  shortcomings  in  the  bill.  And  unfortunatehr  each  time 
we  have  tried  to  correct  those,  the  industry  has  opposed  corrections 
and  80  some  of  them  are  still  there. 

I  have  been  somewhat  disappointed  in  the  CFTC.  I  say  that 
frankly.  It  was  1  year  before  President  Ford  appointed  any  mem- 
bers. Some  of  the  members  have  not  been  what  we  might  expect 
them  to  be  since  that  time,  and  in  addition  to  that,  they  have  not 
always  had  the  resources  they  needed,  especially  the  computerized 
resources.  But  on  the  other  hand,  it  is  not  all  their  fault.  Some  of  it 
Congress  has  to  share  because  the  basic  law  does  have  shortcom- 
ings in  it  that  Congress  has  not  corrected. 

One  of  those,  of  course,  is  most  visible  at  this  time  is  the  one  in- 
volving dual  trading,  and  each  time  we  have  reauthorized  the  bill, 
there  have  been  excuses  why  you  cannot  ban  dual  trading.  You 
know  what  they  are:  Liquidity  is  the  old  one  and  then  you  have  not 
proven  that  there  has  been  an^  fraud.  Well,  fraud  and  conspiracy 
IS  hard  to  prove.  It  takes  a  "stmg"  operation  to  do  it.  But  we  have 
a  "sting"  operation  now,  so  there  is  not  any  question  about  itemy 
more.  That  is  no  longer  an  excuse.  It  needs  to  be  banned,  and  I 
think  that  tmtil  we  get  the  computerized  sj^tem,  and  I  noted  espe- 
cially Congressman  Coleman's  remarks.  This  is  the  euiswer  to  it 
really. 

We  need  a  system,  instead  of  this  old  horse  and  buggy  deal  they 
have  in  the  pits.  You  need  a  system  where  you  C£Ui  go  into  Ksmsas 
City  or  Okl^oma  City  or  Des  Moines,  Iowa,  sit  down  in  the  bro- 
ker's office,  and  you  can  look  at  the  screen  and  you  can  know  im- 
mediately whether  or  not  you  matched  a  trade.  Immediately,  not 
the  next  day.  Immediately.  That  is  the  answer  to  it.  If  we  do  that, 
we  do  not  need  to  argue  about  some  of  these  things.  Then  we  would 
know  that  the  trade  is  honest.  We  would  know  that  the  industry  is 
honest  in  that  regard. 

But  until  we  get  that,  I  would  say  that  we  ought  to  ban  dual 
trading,  maybe  with  one  exception.  And  that  one  exception  would 
be  where  you  know  or  should  know,  when  you  walk  into  this  office, 
that  the  contract  you  are  dealing  with  is  so  small  or  the  office  you 
are  dealing  with,  the  exchange  you  are  defiling  with,  is  so  small 
that  obviously  the  person  on  the  other  side  is  going  to  shift  the  risk 
somewhere  else  to  some  other  exchange  or  to  some  other  contract. 
Except  for  that  possible  exception,  I  just  think  we  ought  to  ban 
dual  trading.  If  you  ban  dual  trading,  then  you  will  put  the  encour- 
agement that  is  necessary  into  this  system  where  they  will  make 
the  reforms  that  are  necessary,  and  that  will  encourage  computer- 
ized trading  too. 

Another  visible  problem  is  insider  information,  and  it  was 
banned  at  the  Securities  Exchange  Commission  50  years  ago.  And 


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the  same  activity  for  which  they  are  prosecuting  people  in  New 
York  today  would  even  be  ill^eil  if  it  is  done  on  futures.  And  when 
a  corporate  officer  or  an  employee  knows  that  his  employer  is 
taking  big  positions — we  are  not  talking  about  little  positions,  we 
are  not  talking  about  the  country  elevator  operator — we  are  talk- 
ing about  reportable  positions  in  the  case  of  commodities.  When- 
ever they  know  about  some  big  positions  they  are  going  to  be 
taking,  and  they  take  one  for  themselves  in  advance,  in  that  in- 
stance they  are  really  working  against  the  interest  of  their  employ- 
er. And  in  many  cases,  and  I  cannot  say  in  most  because  I  do  not 
think  it  is  so — in  many  cases  employers  have  prohibited  employees 
from  doing  that  and  officers  of  the  company,  but  in  some  cases 
they  have  not.  It  just  should  not  be  permitted. 

It  is  no  longer  just  a  matter  of  dealing  with  commodities  now. 
We  have  a  lot  of  financial  contracts.  And  the  SEC  has  been  enforc- 
ing these  with  regfu'd  to  fuifuicial  commodities  or  financieil  con- 
tracts, but  you  know  they  are  banned  &om  doing  things  in  New 
York,  that  they  are  not  in  Chicago.  And  so  they  can  go  on  to  the 
index  futures  and  that  is  part  of  what  happened  in  the  catastrophe 
we  just  Uilked  about.  And  so  the  two  are  related.  We  should  ban 
insider  trading  too.  It  has  spread  to  the  financial  futures  now. 

Another  subject  that  I  want  to  make  mention  that  has  not  been 
mentioned  much  right  now  because  we  do  not  happen  to  have  that 
kind  of  a  movement  ingrained  that  encourages  thinking  about  it, 
but  it  is  the  reporting  of  export  sales.  I  had  bills  in  on  all  of  these 
things,  but  one  of  the  bills  requires  reports  to  be  made  to  the  CFTC 
instead  of  USDA.  USDA  cannot  enforce  reporting.  They  do  not 
have  any  penalties  to  start  with  that  amount  to  anythii^,  They 
cannot  force  foreigners  to  report  to  them. 

But  a  lot  of  these  big  sales  are  hedged  on  our  futures  market,  as 
in  the  case  of  the  one  that  wbs  made  on  Canadian  wheat  a  few 
yefu^  ago.  All  was  hedged  on  our  market.  They  not  only  hedged  it, 
but  th^  covered  60  mulion  bushels  more  than  they  sold.  And  then 
sold  off  later  the  60  million  bushels  and  made  a  big  profit  on  it. 
Our  futures  meu'ket,  our  farmers,  our  processors  are  the  ones  that 
are  ^^ng  the  bill.  And  we  ought  to  make  these  reports  come  to 
the  CFTC  because  the  CFTC  can  immediately  then  enforce  the  re- 
ports to  see  whether  or  not  they  are  speculating.  They  are  in 
excess  of  the  spec  limits  and  they  can  suspend  them  from  trading 
on  CFTC  and  that  is  enough  for  a  penalty.  A  small  fine  like  they 
have  at  USDA  is  not  enough  to  enforce  reporting. 

The  Americfm  farmers  have  to  give  information,  and  they  do 
freely,  that  is  printed  all  over  the  world  about  our  crops  and  the 
possibility  of  the  size  of  the  crop  being  bigger  or  smaller.  And  I  do 
not  think  there  is  anything  wrong  with  reporting  to  the  CFTC 
either. 

Now  I  have  only  highlighted  three  eunendments  that  I  suggested, 
and  I  know  that  you  nave  examined  numerous  ones  and  I  compli- 
ment you  on  the  draft  bill  that  you  have.  You  have  numerous 
things  in  there  that  are  very  important,  and  I  still  think  that  the 
business  of  shifting  risks  is  still  important  to  farmers  and  smedl 
businesses.  And  I  want  to  do  it  by  amending  this  law. 

But  I  have  to  say  I  have  reluctantly  come  to  the  conclusion  that 
if  we  cannot  get  these  minimum  needed  amendments  this  year. 


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that  protect  a|;aiDst  dual  trading  and  insider  trading  and  some  of 
these  other  things,  then  I  think  that  the  time  has  come  to  consider 
seriously  putting  it  under  SEC  where  those  are  already  prohibi- 
tions. 

I  know  that  you  are  approaching  this  very  seriously  and  any- 
thing that  I  can  do,  it  is  not  going  to  be  much  compared  to  what 
you  can  do,  but  whatever  I  can  do,  I  want  to  help  you  do  what  you 
started  out  to  do,  and  I  want  to  compliment  the  committee  for 
what  you  are  doing. 

[The  prepared  statement  of  Mr.  Smith  appears  at  the  conclusion 
of  the  hearing.] 

Mr.  Enqush.  Thank  you  very  much,  Neal.  I  appreciate  it  very 
much.  As  you  know,  the  subccBmnaittee  is  concerned  over  the  ques- 
tion of  whether  or  not  the  CFTC  has  had  adequate  resources  to  do 
its  job.  It  is  one  thing  to  give  an  agency  the  responsibility;  it  is 
something  else  to  provide  the  resources.  And  we  are  certainly 
pleased  that  the  Appropriations  Subcommittee  included  etdditional 
funding  in  the  bill  that  is  going  to  be  on  the  floor  today  to  address 
that. 

If  your  two  bills  that  you  mentioned  included  any  of  the  l«asla- 
tion  to  be  adopted  by  the  Bubcommittee,  how  much  additional  fund- 
ing do  you  thmk  that  would  require? 

R&.  Smith.  I  think  that  it  would  not  require  any  additional  fund- 
ing because  if  you  ban  dual  treiding  then  &ey  do  not  have  as  much 
of  a  problem  enforcing  the  law  as  they  have  now.  As  it  is  now,  it 
took  several  years  to  get  the  computer  capacity,  and  I  do  not  know 
that  they  have  it  adequate  yet.  But  for  several  years  they  did  not 
have  computer  capacity  to  follow  these  trades.  On  the  Small  Busi- 
ness Committee  I  had  a  study  conducted.  I  had  three  people  work  9 
months  to  really  nciil  down  what  had  happened  in  one  transaction 
or  one  series  of  transactions  that  happened  over  a  15-day  period. 
Computer  capacity,  if  it  is  adequate,  ought  to  have  naUed  ihat 
down  right  away  in  1  week. 

So  if  you  ban  dual  trading,  then  you  stop  some  of  the  practices 
ttiat  are  so  difficult  for  them  to  follow  and  it  will  take  less  re- 
sources really.  But  they  need  all  the  resources  they  have  even  if 
you  hem  dual  trading.  They  have  a  budget  of  about  one-third  of 
what  the  FCC  does. 

Mr.  E^NGLiSH.  How  much  of  an  impact  do  you  think  that  lack  of 
budget,  that  small  amount,  has  on  the  ability  to  carry  out  this  re- 
sponsibility? 

Mr.  Smith.  It  has  some,  however,  I  think  that  the  shortcomings 
in  the  law  are  much  more  important  than  a  small  increase  in  the 
budget. 

Mr.  English.  The  other  feature,  I  suppose  I  should  not  be  mixing 
the  two,  but  of  course  the  witness  following  you  will  be,  is  the 
CFTC.  The  essence  of  the  CFTC  testimony  I  think  is  that  basical^ 
other  than  some  of  the  changes  that  they  are  recommending  that 
everything  is  fine.  That  there  really  Bxe  not  any  major  changes 
that  are  necessary.  Certainly  beyond  studies  and  whatever,  but  Sie 
general  thrust  of  the  testimony  is  that  the  CFTC  has  eill  the  au- 
thority that  they  need  and  basically  everything  seems  to  be  in 
pretty  good  shape  as  far  as  they  are  concerned. 


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Your  testimony  would  seem  to  be  somewhat  at  odds  with  that. 
How  much  of  this  comee  down  to  resources?  How  much  of  it  comes 
down  to  the  changes  in  the  law?  How  much  of  it  comes  down  with 
r^ard  to  the  attitude  of  the  CFTC  in  what  they  see  their  role  in 
their  job? 

Mr.  Smith.  I  think  it  is  some  of  all  of  that.  To  start  with,  if  th«r 
have  the  capacity,  emd  they  are  using  the  capacity  that  is  needed, 
then  why  cud  we  have  these  scandals?  Just  on  the  face  of  it,  it 
shows  that  there  is  something  wrong.  And  even  the  one  that  hap- 
pened in  soybeans — what  happened  in  soybeans  last  week  diouM 
not  occur.  I  mean,  something  is  wrong  when  it  is  that  late  in  the 
contract  and  th^  have  that  severe  an  acljustment.  Then  you  had 
joeople  dealing  in  the  contract  that  have  interests  on  bou  sides. 
There  is  something  wrong  with  that. 

So  obviously  some  amendments  are  needed.  And,  of  course,  with 
r^card  to  reporting  sales,  they  do  not  even  have  the  authority  tx> 
require  anybody  to  report  sales,  so  it  is  verv  difficult  for  tiiem  in 
the  case  of  the  forei^  customer  or  even  a  State  trading  commny. 
A  country  that  has  its  own  State  trading  company  is  veiy  dimcmt 
to  know  whether  or  not  they  indirectly  are  hedgmg  or  if  they  are 
speculating. 

So  there  are  shortcomings  in  the  law.  I  think  there  is  enough 
blame  to  go  around  for  all  three  of  those  instances. 

Mr.  Enolish.  Mr.  Coleman. 

Mr.  CoLEBUN.  Neal,  thank  you  for  testifying  and  yoiur  positive 
comments  about  what  Glenn  and  I  have  tried  to  do.  Mr.  Morrison 
calls  the  bill  a  starting  vehicle,  but  it  is  one  which  we  think  has  a 
lot  of  language  which  ought  to  be  retained  in  the  final  product 

One  of  the  things  you  mentioned  and  I  think  generally  is  per- 
ceived as  a  positive  thing  has  been  this  undercover,  as  you  say 
"sting"  operation.  And  one  of  the  things  we  put  in  the  bill  is  to  ^ 
to  encourage  the  continuation  of  such  potential  undercover  oper- 
ations. And  that  may  indeed  require  appropriations  and  additional 
expenditures  in  one  form  or  another.  As  you  know,  to  make  an  op- 
eration successful,  you  have  to  go  through  a  lot  of  window  dressing 
and  so  forth  and  so  on  to  make  sure  t^t  your  imdercover  people 
are  not  found  out. 

So  there  may  be  reasons  for  the  Commission  and  for  us  and  for 
you  to  look  at  appropriations  and  to  increase  them  to  the  extent 
that  we  are  going  to  have  this  as  a  successful  deterrent.  I  think 
that  the  industry  recognizes,  as  well  as  the  regulator  and  the  Con- 
gress, that  just  me  threat  of  having  somebody  on  that  floor  all  the 
time  in  an  undercover  capacity  will  keep  some  people  from  moving 
over  the  brink  into  an  illegal  situation.  So  I  just  want  to  remind 
you  as  we  go  forward  togeuer  that  we  may  have  to  have  some  in- 
crease for  these  types  of  activities,  and  we  would  obviously  need 
your  support.  And  I  think  that  you  are  supportive  of  that  type  of 
effort,  but  it  is  probably  going  to  cost  some  money. 

Mr.  Smtfh.  I  agree  with  you,  but  I  want  to  remind  you  of  two 
things.  One  thing,  of  course,  is  the  "sting"  operation  which  was 
conducted  by  the  Justice  Department — I  happen  to  Chair  the  aub- 
committee  that  handles  their  funding  and  I  know  it  is  going  to  cost 
a  lot  of  money — that  would  not  have  been  necessary  if  we  had  pro- 
hibited dual  trading.  They  had  to  have  a  "sting"  operation  because 


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tiiey  have  to  lean  on  ftaud  statutes  and  conspinu?  statutes  and 
that  is  extremely  difficult  to  prove,  and  you  almost  have  to  have  a 
"sting"  operation  in  order  to  do  it.  If  dual  trading  had  been  prohib- 
ited to  start  with,  these  abuses  could  have  been  stopped  without 
going  through  all  of  that. 

So  I  think  t^t  the  amount  of  money  needed  to  enforce  this  part 
of  it  would  be  even  less.  But  I  agree  with  you  that  we  need  to  nind 
it. 

Mr.  Engush.  Mr.  Morrison. 

Mr.  MoBBisoN.  You  obviously  have  a  very  firm  exposition  on  the 
dual  trading  issue.  However,  you  did  allow  that  some  smaller  mar- 
kets would  prcd>ably  be  necessary  to  make  the  mark.  A  hUl  intro- 
duced before  us  includes  the  cutoff  point  of  7,000  contracts  estab- 
lished in  that  size.  Do  you  agree  with  that  number? 

Mr.  Smpth.  I  do  not  reaUy  know  what  the  number  is,  but  I  would 
say  that  I  would  use  this,  as  vou  study  it,  as  your  basis.  If  I  am 
dealing  with  a  small  exchange  because  I  prefer  to  deal  with  them — 
perhaps  I  know  them  or  they  are  close  by — I  ought  to  know  that,  if 
it  is  a  big  contract,  that  they  probably  do  not  have  enough  people 
there  to  match  all  the  offers  that  need  to  be  matohed.  That  they 
are  probably  going  to  matoh  it  somewhere  else  or  shift  the  risk.  I 
think  that  is  tiie  basis,  and  I  do  not  know  the  number  of  contracts 
that  ought  to  be.  Of  course,  where  there  are  smaller  numbers  (^ 
contracts,  there  is  more  of  a  need  to  recognize  that  problem  in 
other  ways.  But  the  answer  to  it,  of  course,  is  computerized  trad- 
ing. 

Mr.  MosRisoN.  So  you  agree  with  the  tie-in  that  the  bill  provides 
for  the  number  of  size 

Mr.  Smith.  I  agree  there  is  a  difference  between  a  small  ex- 
change out  in  Kansas  Ci^  or  some  place  and  Chicago.  I  do  not  see 
any  excuse  for  it  in  CBOT  or  in  Merc,  either  one. 

Mr.  MoBBisoN.  And  yet  the  bill  does  provide  for  demonstrations 
of  approved  audit  trails.  I  think  that  would  have  an  impact  on  the 
trading  issue. 

Mr.  Smpth.  Well,  it  would,  but  the  answer  there  Eigain  is  comput- 
erized trading.  We  should  not  have  to  be  fooling  around  with  other 
trails,  niat  is  horse  and  bi^gy  stuff.  Guys  getting  down  and  yelling 
at  one  another.  We  have  computers  in  this  country.  We  clmm  we 
are  a  leftder  in  computers.  We  ought  to  be  able  to  go  in — when  I 
was  chairing  the  Small  Business  Committee,  I  think  it  was  GE— I 
do  not  want  to  use  the  wrong  company,  but  I  think  that  was  who  it 
was.  We  had  them  do  a  study  to  see  whether  or  not  they  could  set 
up  computerized  trading  at  that  time.  They  said  they  could,  but  it 
would  cost  some  more  money  to  do  it,  but  at  that  time  they  knew 
that  the  exchanges  would  not  accept  it  anyway,  BO  they  would  not 
spend  the  money. 

For  10  years  we  have  had  the  capacity  to  have  computerized 

MrTMoaRisON.  That  time  was  how  many  years  ago? 

Mr.  Smtfh.  About  10  years  ago.  That  is  the  answer  to  a  lot  of 
these  problems. 

Mr.  MoBBisoN.  The  same  computer  program,  right?  To  place  the 
appropriations  process? 

Mr.  Smtth.  It  might.  If  it  will,  it  sure  will  save  us  a  lot  of  time. 


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Mr.  English.  I  am  sure  you  are  glad  you  did  not  cany  that  a 
step  further  and  say  Congress  went  on  that. 

Mr.  Smith.  I  thou^t  of  that  too. 

Mr.  E^auSH.  Mr.  Harris. 

Mr.  Habsis.  No  questions. 

Mr.  ENOura.  Mb.  Long. 

Ms.  Long.  No  miestions. 

Mr.  English.  Mr.  Staggers. 

Mr.  Staggers.  I  thank  our  colleague  for  testifying,  but  I  have  no 
questions. 

Mr.  English.  Mr.  Tallon. 

Mr.  Tallon.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman.  Neal,  thank  you  for  your 
testimony.  I  just  want  to  assure  you  that  the  committee  and  I  and 
all  of  us  are  serious  about  eliminating  the  potential  for  abuse.  In 
my  mind,  this  means  mnkiTig  the  practice  of  trading  Eihead  of  your 
customer  in  these  markets  a  criminal  offense.  It  means  making 
any  sort  of  ban  or  penalty  applicable  to  everybody,  no  matter  how 
la^e  or  how  small,  no  exceptions.  And  it  means  protecting  people 
through  greater  surveillance  and  telemarketing  restrictions.  I 
really  believe  that  we  can  and  we  must  protect  the  int^rity  and 
the  competitiveness  of  these  markets. 

Obviously  you  know  a  lot  about  futures  trading  and  you  have  got 
great  concerns  about  what  I  like  to  term  "total  market  access." 
The  more  familiar  term  is  dual  trading.  You  seem  to — I  am  trying 
to  remember  what  you  said — but  I  was  thinking  that  you  were 
tfllUng  about  if  the  trades  could  be  reconstructed  immediately, 
rather  than  waiting  until  after  the  markets  close  or  the  next  day 
that  it  would  make  any  kind  of  a  difference.  I  am  not  sure  what 
you  mean  as  far  as  not  making  any  kind  of  a  difference? 

Mr.  Smith.  Even  then,  there  is  trouble,  if  you  have  dual  trading 
in  the  big  contract  because  you  have  the  possibility  of  traders 
working  with  one  another.  It  ie  not  always  the  trader  that  takes 
his  own  deck  of  cards  and  decides  which  one  he  is  going  to  place  in 
his  own  hand  ahead  of  others,  he  can  work  with  somebody  else. 
Dual  trading  is  just  set  up  for  fraud. 

Mr.  Tallon.  Neal,  do  you  get  a  lot  of  complaints  from  constitu- 
ents about  dual  trading? 

Mr.  Smith.  Actually  the  complaints,  and  it  is  reflected  in  the  use 
of  the  contracts,  the  complaints  are  they  do  not  trust  them.  And  as 
long  as  th^  do  not,  they  are  not  going  to  use  futures  themselves. 
They  are  going  to  use  them  indirectly  through  elevators.  Local  ele- 
vators hardly  use  them  any  more.  They  have  somebody  else  do  it 
for  them. 

Mr.  Tallon.  So  they  are  pretty  big  people  that  generally  trade  or 
do  most  of  the  business  in  futures  markete? 

Mr.  Smpth.  Right.  I  think  that  is  true,  but  even  then,  they  have 
their  doubts  and  they  know  that  it  is  right  for  abuse.  They  just 
know  that  it  is  right  for  abuse. 

Mr.  Tallon.  Maybe  you  can  help  me,  because  obviously  you 
know  a  lot  about  this.  But  the  pretty  big  people  who  are  generally 
trading  in  the  futures  markets,  do  they  have  to  use  someone  who 
has  total  market  access  or  who  is  a  dual  trader  or  do  they  have  an 
option? 


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Mr.  Smith.  Some  of  them  have  their  own  seat.  They  would  not 
think  of  not  having  their  own  seat. 

Mr.  Tallon.  But  on  all  of  these  futures  exchanges,  are  there 
people  there  who  do  not  trade  for  themselves,  who  are  not  engaged 
in  dual  trading? 

Mr.  Shtth.  Oh  yes.  Some  of  them  do  not  trade  for  themselves. 
Not  all  of  them  are  dual  traders. 

Mr.  Tallon.  These  futures  markets  that  are  very  important  and 
in  the  interest  of  U.S.  agribusiness  and  farmers  and  business  gen- 
eral  

Mr.  Shith.  The  dollar  value  in  the  futures  now  is  even  more 
than  the  dollar  value  in  securities.  It  is  important. 

Mr.  Tallon.  It  is  a  veiy  important  market.  But  are  not  these 
markets  all  over  the  world?  These  futures  markets? 

Mr.  SbiOth.  They  are  growing.  Yes;  there  are  some  in  other  coun- 
tries. I  noticed  whenever  they  had  one  of  these  great  big  sales  over 
wheat,  they  come  to  our  futures  market  to  offset  it,  to  shift  the  cost 
on  to  the  American  farmer  and  processor. 

Mr.  Tallon.  But  what  kind  of  ban  does  the  market,  say  in  Japan 
or  in  Europe  or  Great  Britain,  what  kind  of  ban  do  they  have  on 
what  is  called  dual  trading? 

Mr.  Saoth.  I  do  not  know  exactly  what  hem  each  one  of  them 
has,  but  I  bet  you  this,  I  bet  the  one  in  Japeui  will  be  computerized 
before  long  if  it  is  not. 

Mr.  Tallon.  I  do  not  have  any  more  questions,  Mr.  Chairman. 

Mr.  English.  Mr.  Sarpalius. 

Mr.  Sarpauus.  No  questions. 

Mr.  English.  Mr.  Combest. 

Mr.  Combest.  No  questions. 

Mr.  English.  Mr.  Nagle. 

Mr.  Nagle.  No  questions. 

Mr.  English.  Tlwjik  you  very  much.  We  appreciate  your  testimo- 
ny. 

Mr.  Smith.  I  just  weint  to  make  one  other  short  statement.  Sever- 
al of  you  mentioned  the  resources  and  the  amount  of  money  that  is 
needed.  I  do  want  to  mention  this.  1  was  just  reminded.  You  know 
some  years  ago.  Chairman  Johnson  and  Chairman  Shad  made  an 
agreement  as  to  dividing  up  the  futures  and  then  after  that  C(m- 
gress  incorporated  into  legislation  that  agreement — fixed  it  into 
place.  I  do  not  think  the  agreement  was  good  to  start  with.  I  think 
it  ought  to  be  ren^otiated.  1  am  not  advocating  exactly  what  it 
ought  to  be  in  the  figreement,  but  I  think  that  another  thing  you 
might  consider  is  releasing  these  two  chairmen,  so  they  can  ren^o- 
tiate  a  new  agreement.  Because  if  CFTC  does  not  have  the  re- 
sources they  need,  they  could  do  without  some  of  those  financial 
futures. 

Mr.  English.  Thank  you  very  much,  Neal,  I  appreciate  it. 

Our  next  witness  is  the  Chairman  of  the  Commodity  Futures 
Trading  Commission,  Ms.  Wendy  Gramm,  who  is  well  known  as  far 
as  this  subcommittee  is  concerned.  Wendy,  I  want  to  say  how 
pleased  we  are  to  have  you  with  us.  If  you  would  identify  those 
that  came  with  you,  I  see  that  you  did  not  bring  any  of  the  other 
Commission  members  today;  is  that  right? 


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STATEMENT  OF  WENDY  L.  GRARIH.  CHAIRMAN,  COMMODITY  FU- 
TURES TRADING  COMMISSION,  ACCORIPANIED  BY  ROBERT 
MACKAY,  CHIEF  OF  STAFF;  ANDREA  CORCORAN,  DIRECTOR,  DI- 
VISION OF  TRADING  AND  MARKETS;  DAVID  KASS,  DIRECTOR, 
CHICAGO  REGIONAL  OFFICE;  DENNIS  KLEJNA,  DIRECTOR,  DI- 
VISION OF  ENFORCEMENT;  AND  STEVEN  MANASTER,  DIREC- 
TOR. DIVISION  OF  ECONOMIC  ANALYSIS 

Dr.  Gramh.  Thank  you  very  much,  sir.  I  did  not  bring  Conunis- 
sion  members  today,  but  I  did  bring  my  technical  stafi*.  Here  on  my 
left  is  Robert  Mackay.  He  is  my  Chief  of  Staff,  who  has  been  going 
over  the  l^islation  in  some  detail.  Andrea  Corcoran  is  to  his  left 
and  is  my  Division  Director  for  Trading  and  Markets.  To  my  right 
is  Dave  Kass  who  is  head  of  our  Chicago  regional  office  and  has 
been  the  first  person  on  the  line  with  respect  to  the  soybean  mar- 
kets. And  then  to  his  right  is  Dennis  Klejna  who  is  our  Director  of 
tbe  Division  of  Enforcement  and  Steven  Manaster,  our  Director  for 
^e  Division  of  E>:onomic  Analysis. 

I  have  brought  them  here,  anticipating  some  questions  of  techni- 
cal nature.  I  think  that  I  can  speak  for  the  Commission  with  re- 
spect to  the  Commission's  policy  positions  on  the  legislative  propos- 
als we  have  before  us  this  morning. 

Mr.  English.  Let  me  also  say,  before  you  get  started,  Dr. 
Gramm,  that  if  you  would  care  to  submit  written  testimony  and 
care  to  summarize,  without  objection,  the  complete  written  testimo- 
ny  will  be  meide  part  of  the  record.  And  I  may  say  that  is  for  all  of 
our  other  witnesses.  If  there  is  no  objection,  all  written  testimony 
will  be  made  a  part  of  the  record. 

Dr.  Gramm.  Thank  you  very  much.  I  would  like  to  do  that,  but  I 
would  like  to  take  a  few  minutes  to  go  through  the  Commission's 
position  on  the  l^islative  proposals  this  morning,  particularly 
since  this  is  something  that  elII  of  the  Commission  is  very  much  in- 
terested in.  I  am  pleased  to  be  here  to  represent  the  Commissioners 
and  to  represent  our  reauthorization  proposals,  as  well  as  to  re- 
spond to  the  l^pslative  proposals  your  committee  has  set  forth  in 
the  Commodity  Futures  Improvements  Act  of  1989. 

This  authorization  comes  at  a  time  when  the  Commission's  ag- 
gressive enforcement  prc^ram,  as  demonstrated  by  our  participa- 
tion in  the  undercover  operation  in  Chicago  and  in  the  recent  in- 
vestigation in  New  York,  has  focused  public,  industry,  and  congres- 
sional attention  on  allied  abuses  in  commodity  futures  trading. 
Your  subcommittee  stan  has  just  completed  a  thorough  inquiry 
covering  all  markets  and  found  the  aelir-r^^atory  systems  to  be 
generally  sound.  The  Commission  also  1^  conducted  its  own 
review  of  our  oversight  procedures  and  exchange  trading  practices. 
Now,  this  subcommittee  is  considering  r^ulatory  euid  l^islative 
changes  to  further  strengthen  the  Commission's  ability  to  oversee 
iutures  markets. 

The  Commission  supports  the  subcommittee's  goals  in  this  Eu*ea. 
We  believe  that  Congress  has  given  us  sufficient  authority  in  the 
Commodity  E]xchange  Act  to  fulfill  our  mandate.  Thus,  in  our  re- 
quests that  we  sent  forward  to  you,  we  do  not  ask  for  major  l^isla- 
tive  changes  at  this  time,  although  we  are  proposing  some  changes 
to  enhance  our  regulatory  program. 


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The  Commisslon'B  legislative  requests  consist  of  five  parts  that 
deal  with  nationwide  service  of  process,  international  law  enforce- 
ment, civil  monetary  penalties,  automatic  suspension  euid  trading 
prohUiitions  for  fedlure  to  pay  penalties,  and  registration  of  floor 
traders.  I  will  review  each  of  tnem  very  briefly. 

The  flrst  proposal  would  amend  the  act  to  authorize  nationwide 
service  of  process  and  special  venue  provisions  in  private  l^al  ac- 
tions brought  under  section  22  of  the  act.  This  proposal  is  a  custom- 
er protection  provision  which  would  allow,  for  example,  a  customer 
who  is  defi'auded  by  an  out-of-State  boiler  room  operation  to  sue  in 
his  or  her  home  Stete  rather  than  being  required  to  go  to  court  in 
the  State  where  the  boiler  room  actually  had  its  principal  place  of 
business.  SpeciflcaJly,  the  proposal  would  allow  private  dainage  ac- 
tions to  be  flled  in  the  district  where  the  defendant  is  found,  trans- 
acts business,  or  where  the  transaction  constituting  the  violation  is 
found. 

Our  second  legislative  proposal  is  in  the  area  of  international 
law  enforcement.  As  the  process  of  internationalization  of  futures 
and  financial  markets  continues,  cooperative  enforcement  efforts 
with  foreign  futures  authorities  are  becoming  an  increasingly  im- 
portant part  of  the  Commission's  enforcement  responsibilities 
under  the  act.  Therefore,  we  are  proposing  a  new  section  be  added 
to  the  act  which  would  provide  the  Commission  with  explicit  au- 
thority to  conduct  investigations  on  behalf  of  foreign  futures  au- 
thorities regarding  violations  of  foreign  laws,  rules,  or  regulations 
relating  to  flitures  and  options. 

This  l^islative  proposal  would  enhance  our  ability  to  cooperate 
with  foreign  futures  authorities.  There  is  worldwide  intei^  in 
such  cooperation,  and  other  authorities  are  seeking  this  authority 
in  their  countries  if  they  do  not  already  have  it. 

Our  third  proposal  eunends  section  6(d)  of  the  act  to  eliminate  the 
requirement  that  the  Commission  consider  a  wrongdoer's  financial 
circumstances  when  assessing  a  civil  monetary  penalty.  This 
amendment  would  give  the  Commission  more  flexibility  in  choosing 
appropriate  monetary  stmctions  in  the  administrative  law  enforce- 
ment process. 

Our  fourth  proposal  also  amends  6(d)  to  suspend  automatically 
the  wrongdoer  s  registration  with  the  Commission  and  to  prohibit 
him  from  trading  on  all  exchanges  if  he  or  she  fails  to  pay  the  pen- 
alty when  due.  This  proposal  would  create  incentives  for  wrongdo- 
ers to  pay  penalties  promptly,  and  it  is  identical  to  the  provision 
already  in  the  Commodity  Exchange  Act  mandating  automatic  sus- 
pension of  registration  and  a  prohibition  of  trading  if  a  party  fails 
to  pay  a  reparation  judgment. 

Our  fifth  proposal  involves  the  registration  of  floor  traders. 
Unlike  floor  brokers,  who  trade  for  customers  as  well  as  for  them- 
selves, floor  traders  trade  only  for  their  own  accounts.  However,  if 
floor  traders  collude  with  brokers  in  violation  of  the  act  or  Com- 
mission r^ulations,  they  should  be  subject  to  the  same  r^ulatory 
sfuictionB.  Requiring  floor  traders  to  register  would  subject  them  to 
statutory  disqualiflcation  and  fltness  requirements  like  other  regis- 
trants, 

As  I  have  said  in  earlier  testimony,  the  Commission  always 
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need  more  authority.  We  already  have  added  three  new  l^islative 
propoeals  to  our  l^islative  package  since  the  beginning  of  January. 

Now  with  resp^  to  the  legislative  proposals  that  the  subcom- 
mittee bill  proposed,  there  are  a  number  that  are  not  addressed  in 
our  legislative  package.  We  appreciate  the  fact  that  you  have  incor- 
porated our  legislative  propraals  in  your  package.  While  the  Com- 
mission has  not  had  the  opportunity  to  fully  consider  and  develop  a 
position  on  every  aspect  of  the  proposed  bill,  I  would  like  to  re- 
spond today  with  the  Commission's  preliminary  assessment  of  the 
major  provisions. 

Allow  me  to  say  at  the  outset,  however,  that  the  Commission 
shares  the  overall  goals  of  this  bill — to  diminish  the  potential  for 
trade  practice  abuse,  strengthen  the  Commission's  regulatory 
^tem,  and  maintain  the  integrity  of  futures  emd  options  markets, 
tliereby  increasing  public  confidence. 

An  improved  audit  trail  is  a  priority  and  has  been  a  long-held 
Commission  goal.  The  Commission  moved  figgressively  toward  this 
goal  in  1986  by  developing  the  l-minute  trade  timing  requirement. 
More  recently,  the  Commission  asked  each  exchange  to  improve  its 
s^tem  for  reporting  and  using  trade  timing  information  to  en- 
hance its  own  trade  practice  surveillance  program  and  requested  a 
plan  from  each  exchange  for  further  improving  their  audit  trail  ca- 
pabilities. Specifically,  we  have  requested  that  each  exchange 
review  the  veriflability  of  trade  timing  data,  accuracy  levels,  and 
its  procedures  for  assuring  the  accuracy  of  source  records. 

We  Eu-e  firmly  committed  to  improving  the  audit  trail  in  ways 
that  are  most  effective  in  detecting  trade  practice  abuses.  We  must 
be  realistic,  however,  about  the  capabilities  of  these  systems  once 
their  potentiEil  has  been  achieved.  Audit  trail  systems  are  records 
analysis  systems  and  neither  these  nor  any  other  kind  of  record 
systems  can  detect  all  types  of  trade  practice  violations. 

Accordingly,  we  believe  that  a  careful  analysis  is  necessary 
before  decreasing  the  trade  timing  standard  to  30  seconds  or  less. 
Chfuiging  the  timing  standard  from  the  current  l-minute  trade 
execution  requirement  to  30  seconds  or  less,  for  exeunple,  may  not 
provide  sufficient  improvements  in  overall  audit  trail  capability  to 
justify  what  would  be  a  significant  increase  in  cost,  particularly  to 
the  smaller  exchfmges. 

Other  audit  trail  improvements  may  be  more  efTective  in  detect- 
ing and  in  preventing  trade  practice  abuse.  Such  improvements 
could  include,  for  example,  collecting  trading  cards  more  frequent^ 
ly  coupled  with  more  frequent  trade  matching,  granting  compli- 
ance staff  the  authority  to  collect  and  copy  trading  cards  on  the 
floor,  and  limiting  the  entry  of  verbal  orders  by  members  on  the 
floor.  Similarly,  we  believe  it  may  be  a  more  effective  use  of  other 
exchfmge  resources  to  move  toward  on-line  order  routing,  execution 
and  trade  reporting  systems  which  would  provide  many  other  bene- 
fits in  addition  to  the  improved  audit  trails. 

We  appreciate  the  subcommittee's  support  of  our  efforts  to 
achieve  the  audit  trail  improvements,  and  believe  that  our  existing 
authority  is  sufficient  to  accomplish  this  important  objective  and 
we  are  actively  pursuing  that  goal. 

With  respect  to  dual  trading,  we  share  the  goals  of  the  proposed 
legislation  to  rid  the  markets  of  abuses  connected  with  the  practice 


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of  dxial  trading.  Indeed,  the  original  purpOBe  of  the  enhanced  audit 
trail  was  to  obfain  records  to  identify  and  deter  trading  abuses  re- 
lated to  dual  trading  and  trading  Eihead  of  customers. 

Earlier  this  year  we  began  a  study  on  dual  trading  to  assess  its 
role  in  fostering  trading  abuses  and  to  determine  whether  any  limi- 
tations on  duEil  trading  would  adversely  affect  market  liquidity.  We 
expect  our  study  to  be  completed  in  early  October.  We  have  con- 
cerns about  the  use  of  contract  trading  volume  to  trigger  a  dual 
trading  prohibition.  Using  the  average  dfdly  volume  of  7,000  con- 
tracts as  a  trigger,  as  proposed  under  the  bill,  could  have  signifi- 
cantly different  effects  on  different  markets,  depending  on  such 
factors  as  the  size  and  characteristics  of  each  market's  floor  trad- 
ing population. 

Accordingly,  we  believe  that  if  specific  restrictions  on  dual  trad- 
ing are  to  be  set,  they  are  more  appropriately  set  by  the  Commis- 
sion through  its  rulemaking  authority.  Through  the  rulemaking 
process  we  can  apply  a  more  flexible  approach  toward  achieving 
the  goal  of  eliminating  dual  trading  abuses  which  we  and  the  sub- 
committee share.  The  Commission  would  be  able  to  evaluate  on  a 
market-by-market  basis  the  efficacy  of  dual  trading,  taking  into  ac- 
count the  effects  of  any  limitotions  on  liquidity  and  the  qualil^  of 
the  audit  trails.  In  this  regard  though,  we  do  welcome  the  elements 
of  flexibility  provided  in  the  bill  in  implementing  the  dual  trading 
prohibition. 

With  respect  to  undercover  authority,  the  Conmiiasion  has  a 
strong  record  of  vigorous  law  enforcement.  And  in  the  exercise  of 
its  own  investigatory  powers,  the  Commission  has  traditionetlly  co- 
operated with  criminal  and  other  law  enforcement  agencies,  both 
State  and  Federal.  This  has  been  most  graphically  demonstrated  by 
the  Commission's  active  assistance  in  the  undercover  operation  in 
Chicago.  We  are  pleased  that  the  bill  recc^nizes  the  importance  ^ 
cooperative  law  enforcement  with  other  agencies.  And  we  also 
strongly  support  the  subcommittee's  intention  to  send  a  signal  that 
these  types  of  undercover  activities  may  be  undertaken  at  any 
time. 

We  agree  that  it  is  important  for  the  Commission  to  define  and 
identify  broker  associations  for  the  purposes  of  surveillance  and 
compliance  programs.  However,  we  believe  it  is  important  to  devel- 
op date  concerning  trading  activities  of  broker  associations  based 
upon  industrywide  definitions  of  such  associations  before  attempt- 
ing to  determine  what  limits  on  intrabroker  association  trading 
might  be  appropriate.  We  are  developing  such  information  on 
brwer  associations  through  interviews  of  industry  participante  emd 
the  study  of  current  exchange  rules  and  practices.  Our  study 
should  be  completed  by  the  end  of  Ai^ust. 

We  beUeve  that  a  rulemaking  is  more  appropriate  than  setting  a 
statutory  limit  because  effective  monitor^  of  broker  association 
activities  could  require  restrictions  to  be  tailored  to  particular  mar- 
kets. 

The  Commission  supports  the  provision  that  would  bar  individ- 
ual members  with  significant  disciplinary  records  from  service  on 
disciplinary  or  governing  psmels  of  exchanges  and  futures  associa- 
tions for  a  fixed  period  of  time.  As  stated  in  response  to  an  inquiry 
from  the  Senate  Committee  on  Agriculture,  Nutrition,  and  Forest- 


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ry,  we  announced  that  we  would  promulgate  proposed  rules  to  ad- 
dress this  concern  by  October  1989,  even  though  some  exchimges 
currently  have  rules  prohibiting  service  on  boards  for  certain  peri- 
ods of  time. 

We  beUeve  the  bill  gives  us  the  flexibility  to  require  self-r^ula- 
tory  organizations  to  establish  what  is  a  s^inificant  violation  in  a 
manner  which  will  allow  for  sufficient  diversity  to  reflect  the  dif- 
ferent exchanges'  rules  and  trading  practices,  and  in  the  case  of 
the  National  Futures  ABsociation,  the  different  industry  compo- 
nents represented  by  the  members. 

Currently,  some  exchanges  have  a  two-tier  disciplinary  process  in 
which  one  committee  makes  a  determination  whether  charges 
should  be  issued  and  another  committee  hears  the  case  r^ardmg 
possible  actions  based  on  those  charges.  Exchanges  also  require 
members  of  a  committee  to  recuse  themselves  from  a  matter  if 
they  have  a  potential  conflict  of  interest. 

We  are  concerned  that  requiring  a  majority  of  committee  mem* 
hers  to  be  from  a  different  sector  of  exchange  membership  than  the 
person  appearing  before  the  committee  may  diminish  the  technical 
expertise  of  the  group  enough  to  slow  down  the  process  and  render 
a  less  effective  and  appropriate  decision.  We  suggest  that  require- 
ments regarding  committee  competition  and  the  stages  in  discipli- 
nary process  should  be  addressed  in  a  flexible  manner  in  edlowmg 
for  diversity  across  exchanges. 

The  bill  would  also  require  that  20  percent  of  exchange  govern- 
ii^  boards  be  composed  of  outside  members,  and  it  would  require 
the  Commission  to  provide  guidelines  defining  who  is  an  outside 
member.  Most  exchemges  currently  have  rules  which  provide  for 
some  d^ree  of  board  diversiflcation,  and  the  Commission  has  an- 
nounced it  will  monitor  governing  board  composition  within  the 
rule  enforcement  review  process. 

While  a  requirement  for  a  minimum  percentage  of  outside  board 
members  may  add  to  the  public  confidence  in  the  industry,  the 
Commission  believes  that  a  quota  system  does  not  always  eichieve 
the  desired  results.  In  a  June  1985  report,  the  Commission  found 
that  the  performance  of  public  directors  sometimes  was  limited  by 
the  directors'  absenteeism,  failure  to  prepare  sufficiently,  and  fail- 
ure to  provide  expert  assistance.  These  factors  must  also  be  recog- 
nized and  considered  before  further  restrictions  concerning  boara 
membership  become  part  of  the  statute  or  the  Commission  s  rules. 

The  Commodity  Futures  Improvements  Act  of  1989  would  re- 
quire the  Commission  to  develop  procedures  to  assure  that  non- 
hedging,  first-time  futures  and  options  customers  cannot  trade  on 
newly  opened  accounts  until  3  days  after  signing  the  account  open- 
ing agreement.  We  believe  this  amendment  is  not  necessary  since 
under  our  current  rules,  no  futures  or  commodity  options  trfuisac- 
tions  can  occur  legally  until  the  first-time  customer  receives  a  cer- 
tified written  risk  disclosure  statement,  acknowledges  in  writir^ 
that  he  or  she  has  received  euid  understood  the  disclosure  state- 
ment, and  the  broker  has  in  hand  the  signed  statement,  which  he 
or  she  must  retain. 

With  respect  to  ethics,  the  Commission  supports  the  idea  that 
registrants  be  educated  in  the  purpose  and  functions  of  futures  emd 
options  markets  and  in  the  rules  £md  r^^lations  which  they  must 


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observe  to  legetlly  trade  in  these  markets.  Furthermore,  industry 
participants  must  understand  the  significant  sanddons  they  face  if 
they  abuse  the  meirkets  and  violate  the  law. 

The  Commodity  Futures  Improvements  Act  of  1989  prcwoeee  sev- 
etEil  amendments  to  the  registration  disqualifications.  These  pro- 
posals must  be  carefully  evaluated  for  consistency  with  the  statuto- 
ry disqualification  scheme  Congress  enacted  in  1982.  The  current 
prop<»al  raises  concerns  that  it  is  not  fully  consistent  with  the 
logic  that  underlies  the  1982  eunendments,  and  we  are  also  con- 
cerned about  any  amendment  requiring  the  Commission  to  recog- 
nize the  authority  of  other  regulatory  bodies  to  create  or  apply  ex- 
ceptions to  the  disquEdifications  listed  in  section  8a. 

This  is  the  fourth  reauthorization  the  Commodity  Futures  Trad- 
ing Commiaeion  has  faced  since  the  Conunission  was  created  in 
19^4.  During  these  15  years,  the  futures  industry  has  enjoyed  un- 
precedented growth.  The  Commission  has  developed  into  a  mature 
and  able  regulator.  We  support  your  proposal  to  make  the  CFTC  a 
permanent  agency.  The  misconception  that  the  agency  may  some- 
how disappear  is  one  that  may  erode  public  confidence  and  shotdd 
be  put  to  rest  once  and  for  all.  Permanent  reauthorization  is  con- 
sistent with  regular  and  active  congressional  oversight  of  the 
agency  which  the  Commission  has  alwa^^  supported. 

The  bill  would  aiao  authorize  $40  million  for  fiscal  year  1990  and 
$44.5  million  for  fiscal  year  1991.  The  increase  for  fiscal  year  1991 
would  be  sufficient  for  over  80  additional  staff  members.  I  am  sub- 
mitting for  the  record  a  brief  outline  of  the  progress  we  have  made 
in  dealing  with  the  1986  reauthorization  issues  and  amendments. 

Thank  you,  and  I  would  be  pleased  to  answer  any  questions  you 
might  have. 

^lie  prepared  statement  of  Dr.  Gramm  appears  at  the  conclusion 
of  the  hearing.] 

Mr.  English.  Thank  you  very  much,  Dr.  Gramm.  I  appreciate 
your  testimony.  Without  running  the  risk  of  oversimplification,  as 
I  made  the  point  to  Congressmem  Smith  earlier  I  believe  to  kind  of 
sum  up  what  your  testimony  is,  I  think  on  page  2  of  your  written 
testimony.  The  first  full  paragraph  you  make  the  comment: 

While  the  Commiseion  supports  the  subcommittee's  goals  in  this  area,  we  believe 
that  Congress  has  given  us  sufficient  authority  in  the  Commodity  Exchange  Act  to 
fulfill  our  mandate  to  oversee  the  markets.  Wiich  I  think  we  just  basically  say  no 
significant  change  is  supported  by  the  CFTC. 

I  think  you  Eire  missing  the  point  of  this  l^islation.  The  point  of 
the  legislation  is  to  try  to  lift  the  standards  substantially  higher 
than  what  they  are  today.  And  as  we  said  the  overall  thrust  of  this 
effort  is  to  try  to  make  certain  that  the  integrity  of  the  American's 
futures  industry  is  protected  and  to  make  certain  that  the  people 
who  deal  on  those  markets,  customers,  have  confidence  in  them. 
And  that  we  want  to  make  sure  that  as  far  as  our  overaU  ability  to 
detect  any  wrongdoing  that  that  is  raised  to  the  highest  possible 
standards.  And  at  least  through  our  inquiry,  we  found  that  what 
we  have  today  does  not  meet  that  definition. 

Let  me  also  say  too,  I  was  struck  by  the  fact,  just  out  of  the  Wall 
Street  Journal  yesterday— I  do  not  want  to  give  one  paper  an  en- 
dorsement, but  in  this  particular  case,  they  had  a  couple  of  refer- 
'  ences  in  here.  We  have  a  grain  commodity  adviser  up  in  South 


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Dakota  who  is  quoted  as  saying  that  what  has  taken  place  last 
week,  as  far  as  soybeans  are  concerned.  It  meikes  us  look  like 
crooks  is  what  he  says  and  then  he  goes  on  to  say  that  we  are 
going  to  lose  business  over  time.  He  is  a  trader  that  went  out  and 
set  up  business  a  couple  of  years  ago.  He  has  about  80  farmers  he 
has  had  to  go  to  now  and  ask  for  more  money,  and  he  said  that 
many  of  th^  farmers,  that  is  the  first  time  that  they  had  ever 
used  the  markets.  And  he  said  now  they  are  angry  that  they  ever 
tried  it. 

They  got  another  commodity  brokage  firm,  a  representative  over 
there,  president  of  this  firm  over  in  Cedar  Falls,  Iowa.  He  makes  a 
statement  that  people  are  losing  confidence.  Not  only  did  the  FBI 
investigation  taint  the  image  of  the  board,  but  now  we  have  an 
intervention  that,  for  the  casual  observer  it  does  not  make  much 
sense. 

We  have  a  representative  who  deals  with  people  overseas.  It  says 
here  a  senior  omcer  of  one  of  the  international  grain  trading  firms 
said  that  the  firm's  foreign  clients  are  incensed.  "We  are  gettit^ 
ready  for  bitter  reeictions  from  overseas."  All  of  that  does  not 
reedly  encourage  me  at  least  to  go  along  with  the  business  aa  usual 
type  approach  as  far  as  the  futures  industry  is  concerned,  and  that 
is  what  we  are  talking  about  as  ffir  as  standards.  That  is  the  mes- 
sage that  we  got  and  I  think  that  the  fact  that  U.S.  attorney's  in- 
v^tigation  which  became  known  to  us  back  in  January.  All  of  this 
seems  to  underscore  that. 

With  r^ard  to  what  has  happened  in  Chicfigo  in  the  last  week 
with  T^ard  to  the  board  of  trade  in  soybeans,  what  role  did  the 
CFTC  play  in  that  decision  process? 

Dr.  Gbamm.  Mr.  Chairman,  if  you  do  not  mind,  I  do  think  that 
the  soybean  situation  is  one  where  there  hfis  been  a  lot  of  question, 
a  lot  of  comments,  and  while  I  do  not  necessarily  believe  in  the  re- 
ports of  some  commentors  to  gauge  public  confidence  in  these  mar- 
kets, I  would  like  to  go  through  and  review  very  briefly  with  you 
what  has  happened  in  the  soybefin  meu'ket. 

Mr.  English.  If  you  could  keep  it  brief.  We  are  limited  to  5  min- 
utes here,  and  I  have  a  number  of  other  questions — 5  minutes  for 
me.  In  ffict,  my  5  minutes  just  expired.  Dr.  Gramm.  So  we  will 
allow  you  to  go  through  the  procedure  emd  then  I  will  let  Mr.  Cole- 
man ask  you  all  the  tough  questions  about  that  procedure. 

Dr.  Graum.  Basically,  as  you  all  know,  the  board  of  directors  of 
the  Chicago  Board  of  Trade  on  Tuesday  adopted  a  resolution  End- 
ing that  immediate  action  was  necessary  due  to  an  emergency  that 
would  threaten  the  fair  and  orderly  trading  and  liquidation  of  the 
July  1989  soybean  contract.  You  should  know  that  the  CFTC  as 
well  as  the  exchanges  have  a  responsibility  to  ensure  the  orderly 
liquidation  of  all  expiring  contracts. 

As  you  know,  we  monitor  routinely  all  of  our  markets.  Since  last 
summer  we  have  had  concerns  over  various  grains  and  have  paid 
particular  attention  to  these  markets  this  past  spring,  particularly 
the  old  crop  markets.  I  should  point  out  just  a  few  facts  here.  On 
July  10,  the  open  interest  in  the  July  contract  stood  at  40.3  million 
bu^iels  which  is  larger  than  any  July  expiration  in  at  least  the 
last  6  years.  There  weis  significant  concentration  of  firms  holding 
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In  addition,  the  supply  of  soybeans  in  a  deliverable  position  weis 
12.7  million  bushels,  substantially  less  than  the  open  interest  of 
40.3  million  bushels.  A  large  portion  of  these  soybeans  did  not 
appear  to  be  evmlable  for  delivery  on  this  contract,  and  the  owner- 
snip  of  the  deliverable  supply  was  concentrated  as  well.  So,  little 
adoitional  supply  was  expected  to  be  placed  in  a  deliverable  posi- 
tion. Now  the  price  relationships  that  we  monitor 

Mr.  English.  The  point  I  just  wanted  to  ask  you.  Dr.  Granmi,  I 
think  most  of  this  has  been  in  the  media.  I  just  want  to  know  what 
role  the  CFTC  played.  What  involvement  did  the  CBTC  have  in  this 
action? 

Dr.  Gramm.  The  CFTC  has  monitored  these  mEu*ket8  for  several 
months.  We  have  had  some  concerns  and  thereby  monitored  some 
of  the  liauidations  in  the  spring,  particuUirly  the  May  liquidation 
of  the  ola  crop  soybeans.  Ab  is  usual  in  cases  like  this,  we  will  have 
discussions  with  all  of  the  major  traders  In  the  mfirket,  as  well  as 
other  participants  in  the  meu'ket  to  see  whether  or  not  there  will 
be  an  orderly  hquidation  of  the  contract. 

Mr.  English.  The  question  was:  Did  you  consult  with,  advise, 
participate  with,  in  any  way  in  the  decision  that  was  made? 

Dr.  Gramm.  We  knew  of  their  concern.  We  had  discussions  with 
the  exchange.  We  have  had  discussions  with  the  exchange  on  a 
daily  basis. 

Mr.  English.  Did  you  make  any  recommendations? 

Dr.  Gramm.  We  did  not  make  recommendationB,  but  we  did  dis- 
cuss some  alternatives.  We  were  in  daily  contact,  not  only  at  the 
staff  level,  but  at  my  level  as  well.  We  were  not  only  in  this  expira- 
tion, but  in  earlier  expirations  as  well.  Whenever  we  have  had  con- 
cerns over  orderly  liquidations,  this  is  the  normal  procedure  that 
staff  follows  as  well  as,  if  it  need  be,  at  the  Commission  level.  We 
have  regular  surveillance  meetings  of  the  Commission  and  all  Com- 
missioners were  briefed  on  what  was  happening  in  these  markets. 
Again,  we  stood  ready  and  stand  ready  to  act  in  any  situation 
where  we  feel  there  is  a  problem  that  requires  our  attention. 

Mr.  English.  Just  one  question.  Did  you  support?  Did  you 
oppose?  Did  you  comment  on  this  decision  before  it  weis  made? 

Dr.  Gramm.  I  was  informed  about  the  decision.  In  terms  of  sup- 
porting or  not  supporting  it,  one  of  the  things  you  should  know  is 
that,  as  part  of  the  self-regulatory  process,  we  expect  the  exchanges 
to  carry  out  their  responsibility  for  orderly  liquidation.  Of  course, 
we  review  all  emergency  actions  after  the  fact  to  determine  wheth- 
er or  not  their  actions  were  arbitrary  and  capricious.  We  also  de- 
termine whether  or  not  the  exchfinge  followed  procedures  that 
would  prevent  unauthorized  disclosure  or  misuse  of  information  or 
conflict  of  interest  problems. 

Mr.  English.  But  not  whether  they  were  good  or  bad  decisions? 

Dr.  Gramm.  Basically  we  do  that  as  well,  and  that  is  part  of  the 
post-review,  the  post-emergency  action  review  that  we  do. 

Mr.  English.  Mr.  Coleman. 

Mr.  Coleman.  Do  you  have  the  authority  now  under  current  law 
to  intervene  with  the  exchanges?  Can  your  role  be  more  proactive 
than  reactive,  and  not  done  on  a  review  basis? 

Dr.  Gramm.  Yes,  the  Commission  has  emergency  authority  under 
section  8a(9).  We  can  direct  the  contract  market  to  take  such  action 


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as  is  in  the  Commission's  judgment  necessary  to  mtuntain  or  re- 
store orderly  trading  in,  or  liquidation  of,  any  futures  contract,  and 
we  have  done  so  in  the  past. 

Mr.  Coleman.  But  you  have  decided  not  to  do  it  in  the  current 
situation,  the  soybean  market? 

Dr.  Gramm.  Well,  let  us  saythat,  as  of  this  point  in  time,  the 
market  is  still  open  and  the  CBT  has  taken  some  action.  We  are 
continuing  to  monitor  the  market  and  should  additional  action  be 
required,  it  would  be  taken. 

Mr.  Coleman.  But  at  this  point,  it  takes  on  a  different  chareicter 
than  if  you  had  utilized  your  emeigency  powers  in  the  b^inning  as 
opposed  to  the  exchange  using  its  self-regulatory  authorities. 

Dr.  Gramm.  I  think  that  the  notion  of  having  the  exchange  be 
very  much  responsible  for  orderly  trading  is  that  they  have  not 
only  the  responsibility,  but  also  the  incentive  to  make  sure  that 
that  action  is  sufficient  to  deal  with  the  problem.  And  as  you  can 
imagine,  whenever  you  take  an  emergency  action,  there  will  be 
people  on  either  side. 

Mr.  Coleman.  Winners  and  losers.  And  the  Commission  has  de- 
cided not  to  act  in  this  case,  and  yet  thousands  of  farmers  are 
being  impacted  on  a  daily  basis  by  a  roller  coaster  ride  of  prices 
which  are  a  direct  result  of  trying  to  unravel  what  has  occurred. 
And  there  may  be  some  who  would  fault  the  Commission  for  fail- 
ure to  preempt  this  process  so  that  protection  of  the  farmer,  the 
producer,  and  certainly  other  users  of  the  commodity  would  have 
had  more  protection.  That  is  what  we  are  asking  you  to  comment 
on. 

Dr.  Gramm.  Are  you  suggesting  the  Commission  should  have 
acted  earlier  or  acted  later?  I  mean  the  issue  is  that  there  are 
always  a  number  of  options  that  face  an  exchange  or  the  Commis- 
sion. We  have  used  a  number  of  them,  but  that  again 

Mr.  Coleman.  I  guess  we  are  asking  at  what  point  in  your  inter- 
nal decisionmfiking  process  bells  go  off,  red  lights  flash,  and  some- 
body is  going  over  the  brink,  and  you  determine  that  your  emer- 
gency powers  ought  to  be  used  to  protect  the  public  or  the  integrity 
of  the  markets? 

Dr.  Gramm.  Basically,  some  of  the  factors  that  we  consider  in- 
clude the  amount  of  open  interest  as  compared  to  the  deliverable 
supply,  the  concentration  of  that  deliverable  supply,  and  the  price 
remtionship  between  the  expiring  contract,  the  nearby  contract 
and  the  cash  price.  There  was  a  very  large  inverse  relationship  be- 
tween the  July  and  August  soybean  contracts.  There  are  a  number 
of  things  that  we  have  done  and  continue  to  do  in  any  market 
where  there  may  be  some  concerns  about  orderly  trading.  We  have 
undertaken  a  number  of  these  actions  and  will  continue  to  monitor 
these  markets. 

Mr.  CoLEBfAN.  But  in  answer  to  Mr.  English's  question,  you  did 
not  even  make  a  recommendation  to  the  exchange. 

Dr.  G&amm.  Again,  this  is  a  market  that  is  still  open — there  is 
still  trading  going  on;  and  it  is  a  situation  where  we  have  discussed 
with  the  exchange  a  number  of  alternatives  they  have  raised,  and 
our  concerns  about  those  alternatives.  As  we  do  in  all  liquidations, 
we  have  had  constant  discussions  with  large  traders  emd  other 
market  participants. 


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But  again,  let  me  point  out  that  the  action  by  the  CBT  utd  the 
resulting  behavior  in  the  market  made  it  lesB  necesaary  for  the 

Commission  to  take  more  drastic  action  in  the  short  run. 

Mr.  Coleman.  That  goes  somewhat  to  the  heart  of  what  reau- 
thorization 1b  all  about  to  the  extent  that  Mr.  Smith  and  others 
may  feel  that  self-regulation  is  not  adequately  protecting  customers 
and  so  forth.  And,  I  guess  when  you  have  a  situation  that  develope 
like  this  one,  we  need  to  know  that  if  self-r^ulation  is  not  word- 
ing, we  got  a  backup.  You  are  the  backup,  and  in  some  cases  you 
have  to  come  out  of  the  shadows,  so  to  speak,  and  move  into  the 
forefront  and  become  the  protector.  You  are  the  final  protector. 
You  are  the  public  agency. 

Dr.  Gramm.  I  think  at  this  point  though  your  question,  and 
again  this  is  a  market  that  is  open,  has  behind  it  a  certain  judg- 
ment as  to  the  outcome.  I  would  say  that  in  the  market  surveil- 
lance area  there  are  a  number  of  steps  that  we  take,  have  taken 
and  will  take  in  order  to  ensure  orderly  liquidation  in  the  markets. 
Bear  in  mind  that,  in  the  4  trading  days  since  the  emergency 
action  was  taken,  the  congestion  that  was  occurring  seems  to  have 
been  reduced.  The  open  interest  has  declined,  for  example,  by  more 
than  20  million  bushels,  and  the  July  futures  premium  to  the 
August  future  has  declined  from  40  cente  to  about  15  cents. 

Mr.  Coleman.  Dr.  Gramm,  thank  you,  and  let  me  aak  you  one 
other  question.  When  did  you  and  the  exchange  get  down  to  some 
real  nitty-gritty  discussions  about  this.  Tuesday  weis  their  date  of 
announcement,  I  believe.  When  was  the  pressure  building  up  or 
when  did  the  heat  get  intense  enough  that  the  Commission  and  the 
exchange  knew  they  were  going  to  have  to  do  something? 

Dr.  Gramm.  We  have  been  talking  to  the  exchange  about  the  ex- 
piration of  July  futures  since  May. 

Mr.  Coleman.  But  on  a  real  intense  basis,  when  was  it  building 
up?  Was  it  1  week  before  Tuesday?  Was  it  the  day  before  Tuesday? 
C^  you  give  us  an  idea? 

Dr.  Gramm.  It  was  the  week  before  Tuesday,  during  that  week, 
but  at  the  stafT  level.  Let  me  have  Dave  Kass  address  the  monitor- 
ing  that  typically  goes  on  in  a  liquidation  month  when  you  have 
these  kinds  of  concerns. 

Mr.  Coleman.  The  exchange  by  then  knew  that  something  was 
going  to  be  done,  either  they  were  going  to  have  to  do  it  or  you 
conceivably  could  have  done  it? 

Dr.  Gramm.  I  would  not  say  that  at  this  point  in  time.  We  were 
reviewing  a  host  of  possible  actions.  Whenever  there  are  concerns 
that  arise  toward  liquidation,  our  staff,  as  well  as  exchange  staff, 
discuss  these  concerns  with  the  traders  to  see  what  their  plans  are 
for  ensuring  an  orderly  liquidation.  I  should  point  out  that  it  is  the 
responsibility  of  all  participants  in  the  markets  to  ensure  orderly 
liquidation.  These  markets,  in  fact,  are  primarily  for  hedging  pur- 
poses and  price  discovery,  rather  than  for  delivery, 

Mr.  Coleman.  And  you  predicated  your  action  or  inaction  on  the 
basis  of  their  fulfilling  their  responsibility? 

Dr.  Gramm.  All  of  our  action  takes  into  account  what  has  hap- 
pened in  the  market,  including  the  action  that  they  take.  And 
therefore  will  have  an  effect  on  our  decision  to  take  further  action 
or  not.  It  is  also  determined  by  what  happens  in  the  marketpkLce. 


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Mr.  Coleman.  I  guess  what  is  frustrating  to  members  on  this 
panel  is  that  considering  these  actions  or  inactions  in  considering 
and  looking  bfick,  every  day  the  market  is  up  or  it  is  down.  It  has 
been  down.  Now  it  comes  up  a  little  bit  and  pltmges  again  and 
farmers  decisions  and  their  returns  are  being  affected.  You  almost, 
I  do  not  say  cavalierly,  but  you  are  talking  about  looking  at  this  on 
some  sort  of  academic  context,  and  it  is  not.  It  is  a  real  world. 
People  are  losing  their  shirts  on  the  basis  of  what  is  happening  out 
there,  perhaps  ^eir  farms,  find  as  a  result  any  look  back  is  not 
going  to  protect  their  interest  to  that  extent. 

Dr.  Gramm.  What  I  want  to  make  clear  is  that  the  Commission 
has  been  monitoring  these  markets  to  ensure  an  orderly  liquida- 
tion. Again,  there  are  a  number  of  reasons 

Mr.  CoLEHAN.  I  just  want  to  impress  on  you  and  the  Commission 
that  they  are  real  farmers,  real  producers,  real  users,  reeil  consum- 
ers, and  that  a  report  that  lands  on  our  desk  6  months  from  now 
about  this  is  going  to  be  something  they  can  burn  in  the  fireplace 
over  the  winter,  because  it  is  not  going  to  affect  their  real  lite  to 
that  extent  when  you  have  a  market  that  people  out  here  are 
losing  money  on. 

I  wUl  stop  here.  1  have  another  series  of  questions,  not  on  the 
soybean  issue,  but  on  audit  trails.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  assume  we  are 
going  to  go  around  again. 

Mr.  Engush.  Yes,  I  think  we  will  have  at  least  one  more  round. 
I  think  we  are  going  to  have  a  lot  of  questions  on  this  issue.  Mr. 
Harris. 

Mr.  Harris.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman.  Dr.  Gramm,  in  this  I 
guess  this  is  probably  using  the  proper  term,  but  in  reading  your 
statement  on  page  2,  you  say,  "Thus  we  are  not  asking  for  m^jor 
legislative  changes  at  this  time."  That  sounds  like  a  hedge  to  me.  I 
wonder  why  you  would  have  that  qualifier  in  there.  Is  there  some- 
thing out  there  that  maybe  we  need  to  know  about  that  you  are 
reserving  judgment  that  maybe  you  would  come  in  and  say,  now  at 
this  time  we  do  need  to  measure  legislative 

Dr.  Gramh.  I  am  glad  you  asked  that  question  because  I  think  it 
is  a  very  good  one.  What  we  have  said  is  that  at  this  time  we  are 
not  asking  for  more  than  what  we  have  requested  here.  But  as 
more  information  unfolds,  we  may  determine  that  we  may  need 
more  legislative  authority  to  address,  for  example,  information  that 
we  may  receive  as  a  result  of  any  indictments  resulting  from  the 
undercover  investigation.  That  there  may  be  other  authority.  We 
may  be  getting  more  information  from  those  sources.  Should  we  de- 
termine that  we  might  need  more  authority — to  aid  in  orderly  liq- 
uidations or  whatever  issue  may  come  up — we  stand  ready  to  make 
those  changes. 

I  think  it  is  importfmt  to  say  that  while  some  people  have  talked 
about  scandals  in  these  markets,  a  point  that  I  would  like  to  make 
here  is  that  we  do  have  information  about  the  existence  of  the  un- 
dercover operation  that  we  are  participating  in,  and  it  may  well 
provide  some  very  useful  information  on  how  we  may  improve  our 
s^tems  and  improve  the  ability  of  these  exchanges  and  of  traders 
to  perform  and  abide  by  the  rules. 


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With  respect  to  the  market  emei^ncy  and  the  order  with  aoy- 
beans,  we  will  be  reviewing  the  emergency  action  as  we  do  ul 
emergency  actions  taken  by  exchangee. 

Mr.  Harris.  Well,  you  will  have  to,  I  am  sure,  understand  that 
folks  are  getting  pretty  sensitive,  after  at  least  going  through  in 
the  House,  the  problem  in  the  legislation  concerning  the  savings 
and  loan.  Now  every  time  we  pick  up  a  paper  about  HUD  that 
maybe  instead  of  hands  ofT  that  occasionally  we  need  some  handa 
on.  This  article  that  was  in  the  Washington  Post  back  in  January 
of  thia  year  in  quoting  James  Stone  who  was  Chairman  during  the 
Carter  administration.  He  said,  "The  Congress  and  the  Federal  reg- 
ulators have  repeatedly  been  WEUned  of  the  possibility  of  the  dis- 
honest traders.  The  escape  protection  have  done  nothing  about  it." 
Do  you  agree  with  that? 

Ch".  Gramm.  On  the  contrfiry.  I  think  that  with  what  we  have 
done,  we  have  had  significant  improvement  over  the  past  few  years 
in  the  ability  to  detect  trading  abuses.  The  whole  audit  trail  was 
developed  in  order  to  better  detect  trade  practice  type  abuses.  The 
fact  that  we  have  been  involved  in  an  undercover  operation  may 
provide  more  information  about  those  kinds  of  things;  trading 
abuses  that  may  be  occurring  on  the  floor  cmd  how  to  better  detect 
them  to  make  the  markets  even  better  than  they  have  been  in  tiie 
past. 

I  would  disagree  that  we  have  a  hands-off  approach  here.  We 
have  very  much  a  hands-on  approach.  The  Commodity  Exchange 
Act's  emergency  authority  ^ves  us  the  ability  to  monitor  the  mar- 
kets and  to  really  r^ulate  m  a  way  that  goes  beyond,  for  example, 
just  disclosing  and  letting  anybody  do  anything.  We  monitor  quite 
vigorously  here,  and  I  would  point  out  that  comment  was  made 
early  on.  What  is  ill^al  for  one  person  to  do  by  oneself  is  also  ille- 
gal for  two  people  or  three  people  to  do.  In  other  words,  using  an 
accommodating  broker  to  cheat  a  customer  is  still  fraud  and  it  is 
illegal  under  the  Commodity  Exchange  Act.  And  as  a  matter  of 
fact,  in  the  trade  practice  cases,  part  of  the  challenge  is  to  deter- 
mine whether  em  accommodating  broker  has  been  used  to  defraud 
a  customer. 

Mr.  Harris.  Mr.  Chairmsm,  my  time  is  up.  I  have  other  questions 
for  later. 

Mr.  Engush.  Ms.  Long. 

Ms.  Long.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman.  Dr.  Gramm,  I  think  that 
part  of  the  solution  or  a  big  part  of  the  solution  in  problems  in 
commodities  trading  and  futures  tradii^  can  be  dealt  with  fairly 
efficiently  with  computerization.  And  it  seems  to  me  that  the  com- 
puterization that  we  are  talking  about  is  really  fairly  simple.  The 
algorithms  cannot  be  that  complex.  The  only  difficulty  or  the  only 
real  challenge  is  in  the  volume  of  data  input. 

I  guess  my  question  to  you  is  why  are  we  not  seeing  computeriza- 
tion used  in  a  more  widespread  way  in  the  commodity  exchanges? 

Dr.  Gramm.  That  is  also  a  very  good  question.  We  have  seen  a 
tremendous  Eunount  of  computerization  of  different  aspects  of  trad- 
ing ranging  from  records  keeping  and  audit  trail,  to  the  various 
surveillance  programs.  The  Commission  also  has  improved  its  com- 
puter capabilities  to  monitor  the  markets.  So  Uiat  is  one  aspect  of 
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With  respect  to,  I  think,  the  more  visible  aspect  of  what  is  going 
on  in  the  pits,  you  should  know  that  we  have  just  recently  ap- 
posal,  for  example,  in  CBT  where  that  role  of  proposals — there  are 
new  screen  traoine  system  that  is  totally  computerized.  The  system 
is  in  the  testing  phase  right  now.  Basically,  I  think  the  question  of 
whether  computerization  will  take  over  the  markets  is  something 
that  market  users  will  probably  help  determine  over  the  long  run. 

And  from  my  perspective,  we  at  the  Commission  do  review  very 
carelully  a  whole  hcet  of  issues  related  to  the  GLOBE]X-type  pro- 
posals, for  example,  in  CBT  where  that  role  of  propoetds — there  are 
a  number  of  screen  trading  proposals  that  have  been  made  by  ex- 
changes. What  the  impact  will  be,  whether  or  not  they  will  replace 
the  pits,  again,  will  be  determined  by  the  users.  The  pits  have  been 
usenil  to  manv  users  for  many  years,  so  only  time  will  tell  wlu^ 
ultimately  will  happen,  but  there  has  been  a  fair  amount  of  com- 
puterization in  the  other  aspects  of  exchange  operations,  as  well  as 
Commission  oversight. 

Ms.  Long.  It  seems  that  in  so  many  industries  that  computer 
technology  has  been  used  and  we  are  sort  of  on  the  cutting  edge  in 
the  United  States.  But  in  this  particular  industry  it  seems  to  me 
that  we  are  really  using  some  very  archaic  means  of  operation,  and 
there  are  probably  a  number  of  reasons  for  that.  I  would  say  that 
computer  producers  are  probably  not  as  anxious  to  develop  systems 
and  programs  and  hardwEU'e  and  software  for  this  particular  indus- 
try because  it  is  fairly  limited. 

But  it  also  seems  to  me  that  there  has  to  be  some  uniform  or 
consistencies  in  what  is  needed  as  you  go  from  one  exchange  to  the 
other.  And  what  we  have  tended  to  do  in  the  past  is  set  perform- 
ance standards  for  the  exchanges  and  we  have  said  you  must  meet 
these  standards,  but  it  seems  to  me  that  the  CFTC  could  actusdly 
play  a  more  active  role  in  helping  with  or  assisting  with  the  devel- 
pment  of  computer  technoI(%y  that  will  be  usable  by  all  of  the  ex- 


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I  really  think  we  need  an  accurate  recording  of  the  time  orders 
are  placed,  as  well  as  the  buys  and  so  forth.  I  really  think  that  that 
is  a  key  to  solving  some  of  the  abuses  in  futures  trading. 

And  I  think  and  I  guess  what  I  am  sumesting  to  you  and  asking 
you  to  comment  on  is  why  cannot  the  CFTC  play  an  active  role  in 
providing  assistance  in  developing  the  computer  technolt^y  to  the 
exchai^es? 

Dr.  Gramm.  I  think,  first  of  all,  that  a  view  the  Commission  sup- 
ports and  would  like  to  see  is  performance  standards  that  £illow  the 
exchanges  to  compete  with  each  other  and  to  see  what  works.  Even 
with  audit  trail,  we  did  not  tell  them  how  to  do  their  audit  tr^. 
We  monitor  the  output  rather  than  the  input.  It  is  a  view  of  the 
Commission  that  the  competition  would  generate  the  best  results 
in  terms  of  what  is  useful  to  the  customer  and  ultimately  to  the 
user.  And  then  the  user  will  determine  what  best  suits  their  needs. 
There  are  a  lot  of  different  markets,  some  of  which  are  very  large, 
some  of  which  sire  veiy  small. 

You  should  know  that  Qiere  have  been  some  totally  computer- 
ized screen  trading  systems  that  have  been  proposed  in  the  past 
and  have  fedled.  In  fact,  the  GLOBEX-type  trading  proposals  are 
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the  world.  I  think  that  we  do  "provide  asaistance"  when  we  review 
the  exchange  proposals  just  by  the  hard  questions  that  we  ask. 
How  are  you  going  to  meet  certain  requirements?  What  is  going  to 
happen  under  certain  circumstances?  What  are  you  going  to  do 
about  this  computer's  security?  What  is  going  to  happen  if  you 
have  two  orders?  How  will  the  orders — how  wm  the  prices  be  set? 
What  will  be  the  sequence  in  which  the  orders  are  taken. 

With  respect  to  Government  agency  determining  which  system  is 
best  and  therefore  imposing  its  judgment  on  all  the  exchanges  and 
saying  this  is  what  you  should  do,  well  that  is  something  that  the 
CommisBion  has  stayed  away  from.  That  is  someUiing  that  Govern- 
ment is  typically  not  really  the  best  equipped  to  do.  The  market 
users  and  the  exchfmges  in  competing  for  business  will  do  that.  We 
are  there  to  make  sure  that  they  carry  out  all  the  responsibilitiee 
that  they  have  under  the  Commodity  Ebcchange  Act,  but  not  tell 
them  that  they  have  to  do  it  by  having  a  specific  way  of  doing  busi- 
ness. That  will  be  determined  by  competition. 

Ms.  Long.  But  as  the  regulating  agency,  you  should  be  state-of- 
the-art  in  terms  of  development  in  the  area  of  computer  technology 
and  how  it  can  be  used.  And  without  mandating  a  certain  system 
or  certain  software  or  certain  process,  you  ought  to  be  able  to  do 
more  than  ask  questions  r^arding  how  they  are  operating. 

Dr.  Gramm.  Oh,  absolutely.  In  our  review,  we  do  review  these 
systems  in  great  detail.  And  we  are  monitoring,  for  example,  from 
the  earliest  stages  right  through  to  the  testing  phases  to  ensure 
that  these  systems  work  as  they  are  supposed  to.  Also,  more  impor- 
tantly, are  the  ^sterns  in  accord  with  tne  responsibilities  of  the  ex- 
changes and  our  rules  and  regulations.  And,  accordingly,  given  the 
computerization  that  is  occxirring  and  the  demands  because  of  the 
new  kinds  of  systems,  we  are  enhancing  and  boosting  our  computer 
capability. 

Ms.  Long.  I  guess  my  time  is  up,  Mr.  Chairman,  but  it  just  seems 
inconsistent  to  me  that  we  have  computers  for  over  40  years  and 
the  CFTC  has  been  in  existence  for  15  years,  and  we  are  struggling 
with  problems  in  monitoring  and  r^ulation  that  really  should  be 
way  behind  us  in  terms  of  technology. 

Mr.  Bngush.  Mr.  Tallon. 

Mr.  Tallon.  Mr.  Chairman,  thank  you. 

Dr.  Gramm,  thank  you  for  your  testimony.  If  you  could,  please 
help  me  with  my  time,  which  is  limited.  If  it  is  sufRcient  to  give  a 
yes  or  no  answer  to  this  question,  that  is  all  I  really  want  to  know 
because  I  still  do  not  know  if  I  have  it  clear  in  my  mind. 

Did  the  Commission  at  any  time  conclude  that  there  viras  a 
threat  to  an  orderly  liquidation  of  the  July  soybean  futures  con- 
tract at  the  Chicago  Board  of  Trade  prior  to  Tuesday? 

Dr.  Gramm.  Yes. 

Mr.  Tallon.  Thank  jrou. 

When  did  the  Commission  reach  this  conclusion,  and  what  infor- 
mation did  you  rely  upon  in  making  this  independent  market  judg- 
ment? 

Dr.  Gramm.  It  was  a  developing  situation.  We  had  been  con- 
cerned, really,  since  the  prior  expiration.  We  had  been  concerned 
about  July  beans  just  as  soon  as  the  May  liquidation  was  over.  So 
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Mr.  Tallon.  But  when  did  you  conclude  that  there  weis  a  threat 
to  orderly  liquidation  of  the  Jm^  contract? 

Dr.  Gramm.  I  think  it  is  difticult  to  put  an  exact  time  on  that. 

Mr.  Tallon.  Dr.  Gramm,  what  steps  would  the  Commission  rec- 
ommend in  the  future  to  prevent  emy  possible  threat  to  an  orderly 
liquidation  in  this  market? 

Dr.  GrajiIM.  Well,  I  think  that  what  we  will  be  doing  is  review- 
ing— in  our  review  of  the  emergency  action,  we  will  again  give  fur- 
ther thought  about  whether  or  not  there  might  be  other  changes 
that  would  alleviate  some  of  the  liquidation  or  congestion  concerns 
that  have  been  raised  in  this  expiration. 

Mr.  Tallon.  Dr.  Gramm,  as  I  have  stated  earlier,  in  my  mind 
the  practice  of  trading  ahead  of  your  customer  should  be  made  a 
criminal  offense.  As  far  as  the  CFTC  is  concerned,  would  you  have 
any  comment  on  that? 

Dr.  Gramm.  Trading  ahead  of  a  customer,  because  it  involves 
abuse  of  a  customer  interest,  is  fraud  and,  therefore,  a  criminal  of- 
fense under  the  Commodity  Exchange  Act. 

Mr.  Tallon.  Has  the  CFTC  found  that  dual  trading  abuses  are 
particulfu'ly  dif^cult  for  exchanges  to  detect? 

Dr.  Gbamm.  With  the  onset  of  the  audit  trail,  which  is  the  se- 
quencing of  trades,  it  made  dual  trading  abuses  easier  to  detect  and 
easier  to  bring  cases  like  that.  I  would  also  say  that  it  probably  de- 
terred dual  trading  abuses  because  of  the  record  that  would  be 
available. 

Mr.  Tallon.  Would  you  say  that  in  the  last  severed  years  there 
has  been  a  tremendous  amount  of  developing  on  the  part  of  the  ex- 
changes improved  audit  trails  that  has  been  a  focus  of  the  ex- 
changes? 

Dr.  Gramm.  Well,  absolutely.  Before  1986,  and  our  1-minute  time 
standard,  the  requirement  was  a  30-minute  time  standard.  So  in 
just  a  few  years,  we  have  gone  from  a  SO-minute  bracket  to  being 
able  to  sequence  trades  in  1-minute  increments. 

Mr.  Tallon.  Dr.  Gramm,  when  you  said  that  it  is  easier  to  detect 
any  trading  ahead,  what  about  in  markets  with  daily  volumes 
above  7,000  contracts? 

Dr.  Gramm.  Pardon  me? 

Mr.  Tallon.  It  is  also  easier  in  markets  that  have  in  excess  of 
7,000  contracts  traded  daily? 

Dr.  Gramm.  I  think  that  the  existence  of  the  1-minute  time 
standard  and  the  audit  trail  vastly  improved  the  ability  of  the 
Commission  to  bring  and  detect  dual  trading  abuses,  or  trading- 
ahead  abuses  across  all  markets. 

Mr.  Tallon.  Well,  I  have  grave  concerns  about  the  restrictions  in 
the  current  l^islation  that  is  before  the  committee.  But  in  my 
mind,  if  you  are  going  to  restrict  dual  trading,  it  needs  to  be — if 
there  is  a  problem,  and  I  do  not  know  and  I  will  ask  you  some 
questions  later  on.  But  if  there  is  a  problem,  let  us  restrict  it.  I 
mean,  let  us  do  away  with  it. 

Anyway,  I  see  my  time  is  up,  but  maybe  we  ctin  get  back  to  that 
again. 

Mr.  English.  Mr.  Combest. 

Mr.  CoMBBST.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman. 


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Dr.  Gramm,  does  the  Commodity  Futures  Trading  CommiBsion 
have  the  authority  today  to  ban  dual  trading? 

Dr.  Gramm.  Yes,  we  do. 

Mr.  CoMBBST.  You  have  got  a  study  under  way  that  is  going  to  be 
out  in  October  or  September? 

Dr.  Gramm.  Yes. 

Mr.  CoMBEST.  Would  you  feel  that  any  activities  now  to  legisla- 
tively ban  dual  trading  as  proposed  in  this  bill  would  be  prema- 
ture? 

Dr.  Gramm.  I  do  think  so. 

Mr.  CoMBEST.  It  appears  that  dual  trading  is  sort  of  the  recipient 
of  a  lot  of  the  attention  which  has  been  given  to  the  problem  in 
Chicago  which  was  uncovered  due  to  the  sting  operation.  Does  that 
solve  the  problem  if  dual  trading  is  banned? 

Dr.  Gramm.  Not  necessarily.  And  I  stress  ag{un  that  we  may  get 
more  information  from  the  results  of  the  undercover  investigation. 
But  I  think  the  point  should  be  made — and  Congressman  T^lon,  I 
think,  to  your  question  as  well — is  that  the  Commission  woiUd 
rather  focus  on  the  issue  of  eliminating  abuse,  of  all  sorts  of  cus- 
tomer abuse,  and  that  may  include  the  use  of  em  accommodating 
broker,  for  example,  which  would  be  more  than  just  dual  trading 
abuse. 

Mr.  CoMBEST.  So  that  alone  really  would  not — you  do  think  that 
there  are  other  ways  to  get  at  eliminating  the  problem  of  customer 
^use  that  should  be  delved  into,  rather  than  simply  a  ban  on  dual 
trading  and  an  increase  in  the  audit  trail,  timing  of  the  audit  trail? 

Dr.  Gramm.  We  are  taking  a  broad-based  approach,  and  part  of 
that  approach  is  to  look  at  dual  trading  once  eigain,  to  get  Eigain 
some  empirical  information  about  both  the  benefits  as  well  as  the 
costs  of  dual  trading  and  the  concerns  there.  And  that  is  part  of  it, 
but,  again,  the  Commission  works  hard  to  eliminate  customer 
abuse  wherever  it  occurs. 

Mr.  CoMBEST.  I  think  the  Commission  comes  into  somewhat  of  a 
unique  position  in  that,  given  the  concerns  of  a  couple  years  ago  in 
the  October  market  reai^ustment,  the  Commodity  Futures  Trading 
Commission  I  think  was  given  a  pretty  good  pat  on  the  back  for  the 
work  that  it  did  in  following  the  volatility  of  that  day.  There  have 
been  a  number  of  questions  asked  today  about  your  role  in  the  cur- 
rent ongoing  soybean  situation,  rect^nizing  that  people's  futures — 
no  pun  intended — but  their  future  and  their  farms  and  everything 
else  depend  upon  maybe  what  it  is  you  do.  But  you  are  not  in  the 
business  of  regulating  markets.  You  are  not  there  to  stop  market 
movement.  You  are  Uiere  to  watch  what  is  happening  and  to  detet> 
mine  whether  or  not  what  is  happening  is  l^al  or  ill^al,  beisically, 
more  than  to  determine  what  the  market  is  going  to  be  on  any 
given  day. 

Dr.  Grahh.  Oh,  in  terms  of  directing  what  the  price  ought  to  be, 
definitely  so.  But  we  do  monitor  the  markets  to  ensure  orderly  liq- 
uidations. 

Mr.  CoMBEST.  Right.  And  I  just  want  us  to  be  clear  that  there  is 
not  an  indication  given  that  you  should  be  there  just  because  some- 
body hfts  taken  a  bath.  We  do  not  particularly  like  that,  but  it  does 
not  mean  that  you  are  supposed  to  step  in  just  because  somebody 
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Dr.  Gramm.  That  is  right.  The  priman^  responsibility  is  to  enaure 
that  the  prices  indicated  by  these  markets  represent  the  underly- 
ing sum>ly  and  demand  rather  than  anything  u-tificial. 

Mr.  CoMBEST.  You  said  that  October  is  when  the  report  on  dual 
trading  that  you  have 

Dr.  Gramm.  Yes. 

Mr.  CoMBBST.  Thank  you,  Dr.  Gramm.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Chair- 
man. 

Mr.  E)ngu8h.  Mr.  Grandy. 

Mr.  Grandy.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman. 

Dr.  Gramm,  I  want  to  address  the  more  immediate  concern,  and 
I  say  that  because  I  was  just  home  this  week,  and  obviously  the 
talk  at  the  grain  elevators  is  in  regard  to  the  Ferruzzi  matter,  not 
our  pending  reauthorization  of  the  CfTC.  And  I  guess  the  ques- 
tions I  want  to  ask  you  begin  with:  In  your  mind,  is  there  a  signifi- 
cant difference  between  insider  trading  as  it  is  defined  and  prohib- 
ited by  the  SEC,  and  insider  trading  as  it  is  defined,  if  it  is  defined, 
by  the  CFTC? 

In  other  words,  what  is  your  definition  of  insider  trading? 

Dr.  Gramm.  Basically,  the  disclosure  of  material  nonpublic  infor- 
mation ia  the  notion  of  inside  information.  But  in  the  futures  mar- 
kets, it  has  a  little  different  cast. 

First  of  all,  in  the  securities  markets,  you  are  talking  about 
inside  information  as  it  relates  to  a  particular  stock. 

Mr.  Grandy.  Right. 

Dr.  Gramm.  All  right,  a  particular  company,  information  about  a 
company,  issueswise.  In  the  futures  markets,  you  do  not  have  that 
same  notion  specifically.  But  you  do  also  have  to  understand  that 
in  the  futures  market  hedging,  just  hedging,  implies  that  you  are 
doing  something  with  some  knowledge  about  what  is  involved.  For 
example,  if  you  are  a  farmer,  the  crop  you  are  bringing  to  market, 
the  amount  of  soybeans  you  may  be  bringing  to  market  in  the  fall. 
So  that  is  information,  and  obviously  that  kind  of  information  is 
just  a  r^ular  business  of  the  futures  markets.  But  we 

Mr.  Grandy.  OK,  but  let  me  just  interrupt  you  there  for  a 
moment,  because  this  does  relate  to,  at  least  in  the  minds  of  a  lot 
of  my  producers,  what  happened  on  the  Board  of  Trade  this  week. 
The  fact  that  the  July  contracts  were  settled  in  the  minds  of  a  lot 
of  producers,  prematurely  forcing  a  39-cent  drop  in  the  price  of 
befuis  on  Thursday  or  Friday,  weis  it  inside  information  that  occa- 
sioned that  settlement?  There  is  nothing  that  I  have  been  able  to 
find  that  is  illegal  about  what  happened,  but  to  a  lot  of  my  produc- 
ers, it  is  considered  to  be  unethical,  the  perception  being  that  some 
of  Ferruzzi's  major  competitors  probably  influenced  the  Board  of 
Trade  to  force  those  settlements,  and  thereby  drop  the  bean  prices 
BO  the  Ferruzzi  competitors  could  acquire  be^is. 

Is  that  insider  information? 

Dr.  Gramm.  Let  me  mention  the  other  issues  related  to  insider 
trading  that  would  be  considered  unlawful  in  our  markets.  For  ex- 
eunple.  Commission  regulations  make  it  unlawful  for  employees  of 
seli-r^ulatory  organizations  to  disclose  or  use  materifil  nonpublic 
information.  And  we  require  the  exchanges  to  have  regulations 
that  would  prevent  their  board  members  from  using  or  disclosing 
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ing  their  duties  as  board  members.  So,  indeed,  if  a  situation  like 
that  had  occurred,  that  would  be  violating  the  rules  of  the  ex- 
change.  Or  if  there  were  employees  involved,  that  would  be  violat- 
ing tibe  rules  that  the  Commission  had  set  forth.  That,  again — go 
ahead. 

Mr.  Grandy.  I  was  just  going  to  say,  our  colleague,  Mr.  Smith, 
Neal  Smith  of  Iowa,  testified.  And  I  do  not  know  if  you  heard  his 
statement  or  not. 

Dr.  Gramm.  Yes. 

Mr.  Grandy.  But  he  was  tj>lking  about  insider  trading,  and  he 
says  this: 

Corporata  officers  awai«  of  a  pending  announcement  of  a  large  increaaed  aato  ot 
purchase  of  a  particular  commodity  or  pooition  in  the  future*  market  could  use  tliat 
information  to  trade  in  futures  for  his  own  account  before  the  information  is  made 

Is  that  disallowed? 

Dr.  Gramm.  That  would  be  disallowed.  Did  he  say  of  a  large — 
now,  if  it  is  a  private  company  or  if  it  is  the  exchange 

Mr.  Grandy.  No.  A  private  company  I  am  talking  about. 

Dr.  Gramm.  OK.  For  a  private  company,  if  the  individual  used 
information  and  had  responsibility  for  the  trading  activity  of  that 
company  in  the  futures  market. 

Mr.  Grandy.  But  if  he  did  not,  he  could  use  that  information? 

Dr.  Gramm.  If  he  did  not  and  if  the  company  did  not  have  rules 
to  prevent  that. 

Mr.  Grandy.  All  right.  Because  that  was  his  next  statement.  He 
says: 

Since  it  is  contrary  to  the  interest  of  the  company  they  work  for,  some  companiea 
now  prohibit  their  emplt^ees  or  officers  from  using  inside  information  this  way,  but 
some  do  not. 

The  purpose,  I  suppose,  of  that  testimony  is  that  Mr.  Smith  has  a 
bill  and  has  had  a  bill  for  around  7  years  to  basically  disallow  that 
practice.  Do  you  think  that  is  unwise  to  enforce  that  among  private 
companies? 

Dr.  Gramm.  I  guess  I  would  reiterate  the  questions  that  I  raised 
to  the  Congressman  when  I  spoke  to  him  about  this  bill.  That  is, 
wouldn't  the  companies  themselves  have  the  incentive  to  set  those 
ethical  guidelines  for  their  own  employees  if  they  felt  the  need  to? 
Second,  is  that  a  problem?  Has  there  been  abuse  of  that  trust  by 
employees?  Those  are  the  two  basic  questions.  I  think  I  would  like 
to  have  the  answers  to  those  questions  before  we  say  that  it  would 
be  a  good  idea;  it  might  not  be  a  widespread  problem. 

Mr.  Grandy.  But  based  on  what  we  have  just  been  trying  to 
define  as  insider  trading,  emd  in  your  position  as  the  Chairman, 
what  happened  between  Ferruzzi  and  the  Board  of  Trade  and  other 
players  v/aa  not  an  example  of  insider  trading  that  occasioned  that 
precipitous  drop  in  the  b^m  market? 

Dr.  Gramm.  Let  me  mention,  as  I  stated  earlier — you  might  not 
have  been  here — that  we  will  be  reviewing  the  emei^ency  action 
that  the  CBOT  took  as  we  review  all  emergency  actions.  We  will  be 
reviewing  the  whole  liquidation  of  that  particular  market,  includ- 
ing whether  or  not  they  followed  their  own  guidelines  and  proce- 


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dures  concerning  conflict  of  interest.  I  have  heard  those  charges, 
and  we  will  be  reviewing  that. 

Mr.  Gbamdy.  But  you  are  not  prepared  at  this  time  to  render  a 
decision  as  to  whether  or  not  that  fits  your  deflnition? 

T>T.  Gramm.  It  is  premature  to  say  that  we  have  concluded  one 
way  or  another  on  those  Issues,  but  we  are  reviewing  that. 

Mr.  Grandy.  Thank  you.  Dr.  Gramm,  Mr.  Chairman. 

Mr.  E)nglish.  Mr.  Penny. 

Mr.  Penny.  Are  you  going  to  make  recommendations  in  terms  of 
the  practices  at  Chicago  where  they  essentially  reconstruct  an 
audit  trail  instead  of  having  a  hand»«n  record  immediately  upon 
the  completion  of  a  transaction? 

Dr.  Gramh.  Well,  yes. 

Mr.  Penny.  My  understanding  is  in  Chicago  it  is  reconstruct- 
ed  

Dr.  Gramh.  That  is  right. 

Mr.  Penny.  And  imputed  as  bo  when  those  trades  took  place, 
which  is  an  awfully  open-ended  kind  of  system.  It  seems  to  me  that 
if  you  are  concerned  about  the  potenti^  for  abuse,  that  we  have 
got  to  do  better  than  they  are  now  doing.  And  if  you  do  not  want 
the  l^islation  that  we  have  propoeed,  wiat  will  you  be  proposing 
to  help  US  move  Chicago  toward  a  system  where  the  transactions 
are  completed  and  recorded  at  the  time  they  are  completed,  instead 
of  reconstructing  it  at  the  end  of  the  day? 

Dr.  Gramm.  We  have  reviewed  the  trade  reconstruction  systems 
that  some  of  the  larger  exchanges  have.  These  systems  permit  re- 
constructions of  the  trading,  we  believe,  sufficient  to  give  a  pretty 
accurate  audit  trail.  The  systems  use  information  ^om  a  number  of 
other  sources  to  actually  reconstruct  the  trading  sequence,  which 
is,  of  course,  what  is  very  important  with  respect  to  detection  of 
certain  trade  practice  abuses. 

Mr,  Penny.  Can  you  help  walk  me  through  how  they  do  that  and 
what  d^ree  of  int^rity  we  can  ascribe  to  that  system?  It  just 
sounds  to  me  like  any  time  you  are  going  to  reconstruct  the  events 
you  are  going  to  have  an  awful  lot  of  gray  area. 

Dr.  Gramm.  Right.  But  you  should  remember  that  it  is  the  ex- 
change that  is  reconstructing  the  trading  sequence  pursuant  to  our 
rulemaking,  and  that  we  monitor  for  basically  the  verifiability  of 
that  information.  And  it  is  a  somewhat  complicated  process,  but  let 
me  just  very  briefly  tell  you  how  it  is  done.  A  trader,  when  he 
makes  a  trade,  will  give  a  time  bracket  when  that  trade  occurred. 
In  reconstructing  the  time  sequence,  the  system  uses  a  lot  of  other 
information,  such  as  the  information  from  the  time  and  sales 
report,  information  from  trading  cards  on  which  members  are  re- 
quired to  record  trades  in  order,  execution  times  for  the  trades  that 
are  of  a  certain  type,  and  the  entry  times  for  customer  trades. 
There  are  certain  kinds  of  trades  that  they  are  supposed  to  be  re- 
cording as  well.  So  you  are  taking  information  from  a  number  of 
different  sources  that  wilt  then,  using  the  larger  time  bracket,  de- 
velop windows  in  which  trades  can  be  located. 

We  would  be  happy  to  come  up  and  provide  you  a  lot  more  detail 
on  that.  But  we  have  reviewed  those  systems  and  found  them  gen- 
ertdly  to  be  consistent  with  the  requirements  of  the  Commodity  Ex- 
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Mr.  Penny.  The  New  York  Stock  Exchange  has  a  computerized 
svBtem  where  I  think  they  punch  a  card  and  send  it  throu^  a  ma- 
chine and  it  f^ts  automatically  recorded  at  the  time  of  the  activity. 
Is  it  prohibitively  costly  to  do  something  like  that  in  the  commodi- 
ty exchanges?  It  just  seems  to  me  that  the  potential  for  atnue 
would  be  leesened  if  there  were  an  actual  recording  done  at  the 
time  of  the  transaction  instead  of,  you  know,  maybe  a  listing  <m 
independent  records  here,  there,  and  everywhere,  and  then  trying 
to  coordinate  those  at  the  end  of  the  day. 

Dr.  Gramm.  The  independent  records,  such  as  the  time-stamping 
of  the  order  tickets  before  they  come  into  the  pit  and  after  they 
leave  the  pit,  provide  other  corroborating  information.  When  we  re- 
quired the  audit  trail,  the  1-minute  audit  trail,  the  exchanges  came 
up  with  different  ways  of  doing  it,  and  they  work  differently.  In 
some  markets— for  example,  in  one  market  in  New  York — the 
seller  writes  out  zm  extra  card  that  they  put  in  the  pit,  and  then  it 
is  taken  h^  exchange  employees  and  input  into  the  system.  That 
may  work  in  some  marketa;  it  may  not  work  as  well  in  other  mar- 
kets. 

Mr.  Penny.  If  I  might,  Mr.  Chairman,  ask  one  other  question, 
and  this  gets  to  the  situation  with  soybeans  last  week. 

Here  in  Congress,  and  in  most  public  bodies,  we  have,  if  not  in 
writing,  at  least  generally  understood  policies  about  conflict  of  in- 
terest. And  if  you  are  directly  involved  in  the  S  and  L  industry, 
you  probably  did  not  cast  a  vote  on  the  S  and  L  legislation  a  coupw 
weeks  ago. 

What  about  those  folks  in  the  Chicago  Board  of  Trade  who  stood 
to  make  a  heck  of  a  lot  of  money  on  soybeans  last  week,  and  yet 
might  be  on  the  governing  board?  Shouldn't  we  have  some  prohibi- 
tion on  their  involvement  in  those  kinds  of  decisions? 

Dr.  Gramm.  Basically,  the  Chicago  Board  of  Trade  has  a  regula- 
tion that — {igain,  it  is  Uie  result  of  a  Commission  regulation.  We 
require  the  exchanges  to  have  conflict  of  interest  policies  with  re- 
spect to  members  who  might  be  on  decisionmaking  boards  so  that 
members  taking  action  do  not  have  a  financial  interest  in  the  out- 
come. We  will  be  reviewing  the  CBT  order  to  make  sure  that  those 
conflict  of  interest  policies  and  related  exchange  rules  were  satis- 
fted.  We  have  received  representations  from  the  exchange  that 
they  were  satisfied. 

Mr.  Penny.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman. 

Mr.  English.  Mr.  Espy. 

Mr.  Espy.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman. 

I  would  like  to  get  back  to  the  whole  matter  of  dual  trading.  I 
was  late  arriving  at  this  committee.  I  wiis  at  a  budget  hearing.  So 
if  it  has  been  asked  before,  I  apologize.  But  within  the  bill  which 
has  been  promoted  and  introduced,  of  course,  dual  trading  is  going 
to  be  outlawed. 

Dr.  Gramm,  you  mentioned  the  study  or  the  review,  rather,  that 
you  are  undertakii^  at  CFTC.  I  would  like  to  know,  as  a  part  of 
that  study,  have  you  evaluated  or  is  there  any  consideration  to 
evaluate  the  extent  to  which  fore^  exchangee  will  be  advantaged 
if  we  outlaw  dual  trading  in  our  markets?  In  other  words,  if  we 
outlawed  dual  trading,  would  our  brokers  and  our  traders  auto- 
matically shift  their  focus  to  the  London  Exchange,  for  instance? 


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a  survey  among  your  members  where  this  question  is  asked? 

How  would  you  structure  a  survey  to  the  extent  that  we  could 
trust  the  answer? 

Dr.  Gramm.  Well,  that  is  a  very  difficult  question,  and  I  think 
that  the  way  we  would  address  it  is  this  way:  That  whenever  we 
would  do  a  rulemaking,  we  would  want  to  make  sure  that  the — 
excuse  me  for  using  tiiese  words — the  benefits  of  what  you  are 
trying  to  do,  if  you  are  trying  to  ban  dual  trading,  what  would  be 
the  benefits  there.  And  if  the  benefits  exceed  the  cost,  say  if  the 
benefits  from  reduced  potential  for  abuse  would  exceed  the  cost  of 
that  particular  rulemaking,  then  the  implication  would  be  that  the 
impact  on  our  markets  woiild  not  be  that  great.  But  it  is  something 
tiiat  I  think  is  always  worth  considering  because  these  meu*ket8  are 
venr  international. 

With  respect  to  making  surveys  about  whether  or  not  someone 
would  move  to  a  different  market,  for  example,  or  whether  or  not 
trading  would  go  overseas,  that  ia  always  a  diJFficult  question.  As 
economists,  we  tend  to  want  to  look  at  what  people  have  done  in 
the  past  and  get  our  implications  from  that,  rather  than  saying  in 
X,  Y,  Z  situation  what  would  you  do.  So  that  kind  of  a  survey  may 
get  some  thoughtful  responses  and  be  sometJiing  worth  lookmg  at. 
Again,  it  would  be  very  difficult  to  say  for  a  fact  that  it  would  have 
that 

Mr.  Espy.  But  what  is  your  opinion?  Do  you  think  that  this 
would  happen?  Do  you  think  that  would  be  a  perceptible  shift  to 
something  like  the  London  Exchange?  If  we  decided  to  outlaw  dual 
trading,  would  they  go  automatically  to  another  exchange  where 
this  is  permitted,  in  your  opinion? 

Dr.  Gramm.  I  do  not  know  that.  I  mean,  it  depends  on — one 
thing  I  would  say  is  that  there  is  a  certain  amount  of  fiexibility  in 
the  proposal  that  is  in  the  package  here.  And  with  some  changes 
and  through  rulemaking,  one  could  try  tmd  ensure  that  the  costs 
would  not  exceed  the  benefits.  But,  again,  I  would  stress  that  there 
are  a  lot  of  things  about  dual  trading,  both  on  the  ctxt  and  benefit 
side,  that  really  need,  indeed  b^  for  study  and  careful  analysis.  A 
rulemaking  procedure  allows  the  Commission  better  to  eissess  that. 

I  could  not  make  that  judgment  right  off  the  bat  right  now. 

Mr.  Espy.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman. 

Mr.  English.  Thmik  you  very  much,  Mr.  V!spy. 

Mr.  Morrison. 

Mr.  MOERISON.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman. 

I  would  like  to  concentrate  my  questions  on  Information  that  I 
think  would  be  important  to  this  subcommittee  as  we  go  about  re- 
authorization, our  response,  what  needs  to  be  fixed.  The  first  ques- 
tion, you  mentioned  two  different  things  you  are  stuping.  One  was 
the  dual  trading  study,  as  I  recall,  that  is  due  out  in  October. 

Dr.  Gramh.  Yee. 

Mr.  Morrison.  The  second  was  the  study  of  the  broker  associa- 
tion, its  relationship  with  the  process,  and  that  is  due  out  in 
August.  Did  I  miss  any  evaluations  that  you  are  going  through  for- 

Dr.  Gramm.  We  are  always  evEiluating  a  number  of  other  things, 
and  there  are  a  number  of  other  proposals  that  we  have.  We  have 


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two  rulemakingB  on — we  are  reviewing  oral  orders.  We  are  dcring  a 
rulemaking— well,  that  would  bar  members  that  have  a  significant 
disciplinary  action  from  serving  on  a  disciplinary  committee. 

Mr.  Morrison.  Probably  the  two  that  you  have  mentioned  would 
be  of  greatest  significance  to  us  in  our  deliberations. 

I  was  also  wondering  if  you  could  share  anything  at  all  with  us. 
Our  investigation  team  working  for  the  chairman  has  not  had  any- 
thing at  all  they  could  share  with  us  from  the  sting  operation  and 
when  we  are  likely  to  get  any  information  at  all  from  that  activity. 
Can  you  share  anything  at  all  with  us? 

Dr.  Gramm.  I  am  afrfiid  that  that  information  would  have  to 
come  from  the  Justice  Department,  and  I  think  they  are  not  shar- 
ing that  information  either. 

Mr.  Morrison.  You  have  do  idea  on  time? 

Dr.  Gramm.  It  is  not  something  that  we  could  disclose. 

Mr.  Morrison.  I  am  somewhat  iruBtrat«d  because,  as  Neal  Smith 
indicated,  we  finfilly  have  stepped  in,  zmd  we  have  found  out  what 
is  wrong.  And  yet  we  do  not  have  any  idea  what  was  wrong  or  how 
to  fix  it  because  we  do  not  have  access  to  that  information. 

Dr.  Gramm.  I  understand  that  and  have  made  those  views  known 
to  the  Justice  Department  as  well. 

Mr.  Morrison.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  guess  I  express  a  concern.  We 
have  got  several  things  that  I  think  would  be  very  important  to  us, 
the  dual  trading  study  and  the  broker  eissociation  study  that  are 
coming  later,  and  also  I  would  hope  at  some  point  we  would  get 
some  information  from  the  Justice  Department.  It  is  your  inclina- 
tion, though,  to  proceed  with  this  bill  rather  rapidly. 

Mr.  Bngush,  If  the  gentleman  would  yield,  that  would  be  tny 
intent.  Let  me  say,  too,  on  the  issue  of  the  study,  how  many  studies 
have  you  done  with  regard  to  dual  trading  since  the  CrTC  was 
formed  in  1974?  If  I  remember  correctly,  you  have  had  a  study  on 
duEiI  trading  ongoing  just  about  ever  since,  have  you  not? 

Dr.  Gramm.  Well,  we  were  asked  in  1982  reauthorization  to  un- 
dertake  

Mr.  English.  I  think  you  were  asked  before  1982,  were  you  not? 

Dr.  Gramm.  In  1976  as  well. 

Mr.  Engush.  In  1976  you  were  asked,  and  in  1982  you  were 
asked.  These  studies  have  been  ongoing,  that  have  been  completed. 
So,  you  know,  that  is  the  whole  point.  I  am  getting  a  list  of  all  ihe 
studies  as  to  how  many  studies  the  CFTC  has  going  on  these  days. 
They  are  just  about  studying  everything  to  death.  I  think  it  is 
about  time  that  we  act.  We  need  a  little  action,  and  that  is  the 
whole  point. 

The  question  I  think  that  we  have  before  us  that  the  members 
are  going  to  have  to  decide  is  the  question  of  whether  we  are  going 
to  raise  the  standards.  That  is  the  basic  issue.  Then  the  question  is: 
In  what  way  we  do  that?  Now,  as  far  as  any  action  with  regard  to 
the  U.S.  attorney  in  Chicago,  Mr.  Coleman  and  I  both  approached 
the  Justice  Department,  the  Attorney  General,  requesting  informa- 
tion. We  do  not  know  whether  that  is  coming  next  week,  next 
month,  next  year,  as  far  as  any  action  by  the  Justice  Department. 
The  CFTC  is  going  to  be  out  of  existence  by  the  end  of  this  year,  or 
I  should  say  by  the  end  of  this  fiscal  year,  September  30.  And  I 
think  the  real  issue  is  whether  we  are  going  to  act. 


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If  there  are  any  surprises  that  should  come  out  of  the  action  of 
the  Justice  Department,  it  is  certainly  my  intent  to  take  it  up  and 
pass  on  in  a  timely  mfuiner,  as  we  would  any  other  shortcomings 
that  we  might  find.  But  I  think  that  it  would  be  a  mistake  to  leave 
the  CFTC  hanging  in  limbo  as  we  hope  that  some  time  before  Sep- 
tember 30  the  Justice  Department  may  or  may  not  act. 

Mr.  Coleman.  Would  the  gentleman  yield? 

Mr.  Morrison.  I  will  yield. 

Mr.  Coleman.  I  would  like  to  comment  on  your  concerns  because 
they  are  my  concerns  as  well  as  far  as  the  investigation  and  the 
information  that  could  help  us  in  addressing  some  allied  wrongs 
that  may  have  occurred  in  the  Chicago  pits. 

Now,  we  did  ask  the  Justice  Department  if  we  could  talk  with 
them,  even  in  a  generic  sense.  We  ao  not  want  to  know  the  individ- 
uals involved  or  particular  transactions,  but  if  we  could  talk  ge- 
nerically  about  things  so  that  we  might  have  the  benefit  of  their 
investigation  and  information  they  have  developed  to  this  point. 
They  refused  on  the  basis  that  it  is  an  ongoing  pmicy  of  the  Justice 
Department  not  to  comment  or  provide  any  information  prior  to  in- 
dictments when  it  then  is  a  matter  of  public  record. 

Well,  no  indictments  have  been  forthcoming  to  date.  Therefore, 
no  information  has  been  forthcoming  to  date,  and  we  have  been 
told  that  we  are  not  going  to  receive  any  information.  Bfised  upon 
the  theory  of  obstruction  of  justice  that  somehow  just  the  discus- 
sion of  these  things  on  the  cases  involved  and  so  forth  would  have 
an  impact,  we  accepted  that,  did  not  pursue  it,  and  agree  with  the 
chairman  that  if  and  when  anything  develops  out  of  these  investi- 
gations that  are  not  covered  by  current  law,  or  wrongs  that  might 
have  been  observed  and  documented  that  are  not  covered  by  cur- 
rent violations,  then  we  would  certainly,  I  think  with  great  expedi- 
tion, write  new  amendments  to  the  law. 

So  I  think  that  the  gentleman  has  a  good  comment.  It  ought  to 
be  stated  on  the  record  exactly  where  we  are  in  that  process.  Dr. 
Gramm  herself  is  bound  by  the  same  rules  as  the  Justice  Departs 
ment  and  has  likewise  refrained  and,  in  fact,  has  not  provided  us 
any  information.  We  will  respect  her  position,  which  is  a  little  bit 
different  than  Justice,  but  rerognize  her  limitations  as  well. 

Mr.  Morrison.  I  thank  both  my  chmrmen  for  the  information.  I 
am  not  surprised  by  the  answer.  I  just  would  love  to  have  that  sort 
of  tool  to  work  into  our  deliberations. 

Mr.  English.  If  the  gentleman  would  yield,  I  would  agree.  We 
would  love  to  have  all  the  information  that  the  Justice  Department 
may  have  or  anybody  else.  But  let  me  make  one  other  point. 

I  think,  too,  in  carefully  weighing  this,  we  looked  at  this  very, 
very  closely.  It  is  highly  unlikely  that  the  action  taken  by  the  Jus* 
tice  Department  either  is  not  already  covered  by  current  law  or  is 
not  covered  by  this  legislation.  So,  you  know,  the  overwhelming 
odds  are  that  that  is  something  that  is  not  going  to  have  any  bear- 
ing. But  I  think  that  we  all  recc^nize  that  if  there  is  that  chance,  if 
there  is  something  that  should  crop  up  that  should  require  action,  I 
think  you  are  going  to  find  that  Congress  is  going  to  be  very  eager 
to  deal  with  that  in  an  expeditious  memner,  and  certainly  this  sub- 
committee will. 

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Mr.  Morrison.  Ab  a  member  of  it,  I  would  be  disappointed  if  we 
did  not  immediately  leap  to  the  challenge.  I  still  want  to  know 
what  the  FBI  did. 

Mr.  E)nglish.  Mr.  Nagle. 

Mr.  Nagle.  I  want  to  ^o  back  to  this,  if  I  can.  I  know  you  have 
talked  about  it  quite  a  bit,  but  I  want  to  go  back  to  the  actions  of 
the  CBOT  last  week  with  regard  to  soybean  futures.  Prior  to  the 
action  of  the  CBOT  in  ordering  the  divestiture  of  soybean  futures 
by  certain  groups,  who  stood  to  make  money?  Who  was  in  the  posi- 
tion to  proHt  before  their  action? 

Dr.  Gramm.  Depends  on  what  the  fiction  was,  I  guess,  and  the 
Impact  on  the  market. 

Mr.  Nagle.  Well,  let  me  just  walk  through  it  with  you  so  we  are 
going  on  the  same  track  here.  I  understand  that  before  the  action 
of  the  CBOT  that  an  Italiem  organization  or  firm  or  company  luul 
managed  to  capture  a  good  portion  of  the  July  futures  market  on 
soybeans.  Is  that  correct? 

Dr.  Grahm.  I  think  that — typically,  I  like  to  discuss  how  we  do 
these  things  and  how  we  monitor  for  orderly  liquidations  without 
getting  into  specific  names  of  participants  in  the  market,  particu- 
larly when  the  market  is  still  open  and  before  we  have  finished  our 
review  of  it.  We  have  indicated  that  we  have  had  concerns  about 
the  orderly  liquidation  of  the  market  because  of  the  lai^  open  in- 
terests relative  to  deliverable 

Mr.  Nagle.  Well,  I  do  not  know  why  we  cannot  talk  about  it.  It 
was  on  the  front  psige  of  every  paper  in  the  country  Iftst  week.  It 
was — how  do  you  pronounce  it?  Ferruzzi? 

Dr.  Gramm.  Again,  it  is  a  situation  not  unlike  the  FBI  probes 
where,  again,  we  are  going  to  be  reviewing  these  actions. 

Mr.  Nagle.  Mr.  Chairman,  could  I  have  your  copy  of  the  Wall 
Street  Journal  article? 

I  have  the  Post  and  the  Journal. 

Dr.  Gramm.  I  think  the  important  factor 

Mr.  Nagle.  Now,  if  the  Wall  Street  Journal  can  talk  about  it, 
w^  can't  we? 

Dr.  Gramm.  Well,  I  think  the  important  factor,  the  issue  that 
you  raise  in  your  question,  is  what  would  have  happened  in  ^e 
market  and  what  is  the  price  impact.  And,  again,  that  is  sometimes 
hard  to  predict,  what  the  specific  price  impact  of  specific  actions 
would  be. 

Mr.  Nagle.  I  may  have  misunderstood  you,  then.  I  apologize.  I 
thought  you  said  that  CBOT  took  the  action  and  you  siffirmed  it 

Dr.  Gramm.  No.  We  will  be  reviewing  the  emergency  action. 

Mr.  Nagle.  And  you  have  made  no  response  to  CEtOT  in  the  in- 
terim? I  misunderstood  that. 

Dr.  Gramm.  No.  We  have  discussed  the  situation  with  the  CBOT 
in  our  monitoring  of  the  markets,  but  we  have  not  judged,  made 
the  judgment  yet  with  respect  to  their  emergency  action.  That  is 
something  that  is  part  of  our  review  that  would  occur  after — when- 
ever  an  exchange 

Mr.  Nagle.  I  just  want  to  understand  this.  Did  you  talk  to  CBOT 
before  they  took  the  action? 

Dr.  Gramm.  Absolutely.  We  had  been  in  contact  with  the  CBOT, 
in  discussions  with  them,  really  for  several  months,  even. 


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Mr.  Naou:.  For  several  months? 

Dr.  Gramm.  That  is  ru^t. 

Mr.  Naqlb.  Did  CBOT  tell  you  that  they  were  going  to  take  this 
action  before  they  took  it? 

Dr.  Gramm.  Yes. 

Mr.  Naole.  Was  there  a  decision  made  not  to — what  did  you  tell 
CBOT  when  they  told  you  they  were  going  to  do  that?  Say  "OK?" 
"Don't  do  it?"  "Better  wait?"  We  don't  know  anything  Eibout  it?" 
"We  can't  talk  about  it?"  What  did  you  say? 

Dr.  Gkamm.  No.  I  thanked  them  for  the  information. 

Mr.  Nagle.  That  is  it? 

Dr.  Grahh.  Yes. 

Mr.  Nagle.  That  constitutes  the  oversight,  the  CFTC  oversight? 

Dr.  Geamm.  No,  absolutely  not.  No. 

Again,  we  had  been  monitoring  these  markets  and  had,  indeed, 
monitored  even  the  May  expiration  because  there  were  some  con- 
cerns in  the  May  expiration.  We  had  had  discussions  with  not  only 
the  m^or  traders  but  also  other  participants,  had  been  discussing 
the  market  with  the  CBOT  and  the  concerns  they  raised,  heid  dis- 
cussed even  alternatives.  But,  again,  they  made  the  decision  and 
their  committee  made  the  decision  about  what  particular  emergen- 
Cy  action  they  were  going  to  take.  That  was  something  that  &ey 
relayed  to  us.  We  have  had  discussions  with  them  since  then, 
again,  sharing  information  about  what  has  happened  in  the 
market.  That  is  our  normal  behavior. 

Now,  whenever  any  emergency  action  is  taken  such  as  this,  we 
review  all  trading  in  that  psirticular  market.  We  review  their 
action.  We  review  the  procedures  that  they  follow. 

Mr.  Nagle.  Why  was  it— waited  until  apparently  the  third  week 
of  July  or  the  second  week  of  July  if  this  thing  had  been  monitored 
since — what,  you  said  as  early  as  May?  That  it  weis  becoming  ap- 
parent that  one  company  was  cornering  the  soybean  futures  for 
July?  Why  did  you  wait  until 

Ih-.  Gbamm.  Again,  let  me  speak  about  what  we  typically  do  in 
monitoring  for  orderly  liquidation  of  a  market,  and  that  is  not  to 
prejudge  tiie  case  in  point.  But  what  we  do,  aa  the  exchange  does, 
they  have  the  responsibility  to  monitor  for  orderly  liquidation. 

Now,  where  congestion  may  occur  typically  is  as  the  contract  li- 
quidates. So  as  we  get  close  to  the  contract  expiration  period  is 
when  we  start  to  monitor  very  closely  about  what  the  intentions  of 
the  traders  are,  those  with,  for  example,  large  positions  and  wheth- 
er or  not  they  expect  to  stand  for  delivery,  to  determine  whether  or 
not  there  could  be  psul^icultir  problems.  That  is  something  that 
Conamission  staff  does  r^ularly  for  any  market  that  may  have  a 
concern.  And,  again,  any  action  that  needs  to  be  taken  may  well 
occur  toward  the  end  of  the  contract  period,  towfuxl  the  expiration 
date,  rather  than  earlier  on. 

Mr.  Nagle.  Well,  speaking  generically,  without  naming  compa- 
nies, it  would  seem  to  me  that  a  fair  summation  would  be  that  one 
company  that  had  bought  a  lot  of  July  futures,  a  foreign  company, 
and  a  lot  of  individuEil  fsuTners  who  had  bought  July  futures  would 

n'jably  have  been  hurt  by  CBOT's  action,  and  companies  that 
filled  July  orders  would  probably  have  ben^ted.  Would  that 
be  just  kind  of  a  feiir  overview? 


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Dr.  Grahm.  Whenever  you  have  an  emergency  action,  there  will 
be — and  because  these  markets  are  basi^ly  a  zero«um  game, 
there  wiU  be  winners  and  losers,  depending  on  what  happens  in 
the  market. 

Mr.  Nagle.  Who  won?  Who  lost?  Just  generically  speaking,  who 
won  and  who  lost? 

Dr.  Grahu.  It  depends  on  what  those  individuals  in  those  mar- 
kets were  doing,  basically. 

Mr.  Nagle.  Broadly  speaking,  who  won  and  who  lost? 

Dr.  Gramm.  Let  me  turn  to  Dave  Kass,  who  is  the  Chicago  Re- 
gional Office  Director,  who  could  clariiy. 

Mr.  Kass.  Basically,  unless  you  know  one  individual  circimi- 
stance,  he  may  have  been  spread,  for  example,  long  July,  short 
August;  may  have  been  hedged  so  that  any  price  movement  in  the 
futures  market  would  have  been  offset  by  depreciation  or  apprecia- 
tion in  the  cash  meurket. 

To  say  who  won  or  who  lost,  you  would  have  to  grab  some  indi- 
vidual and  say,  you  know,  what  was  your  circumstance  on  that 

Mr.  Naglb.  Well,  we  know  one  company  that  lost,  and  that  was 
Perruzzi,  right?  They  clearly  were  a  big  loser  when  you  ordered  the 
sale. 

Dr.  Gbamh.  Let  me  just  say 

Mr.  Naqlb.  Can  I  just  get  that  question  answered  yes  or  no? 

Mr.  Kass.  It  is  a  question  that  does  not  have  that  kind  of  an 
answer. 

Mr.  Naglb.  They  are  unhappy  because  they  won?  I  mean,  I  am 
reading  the  paper 

Dr.  Gramm.  I  think  it  is  clear  they  are  imhappy. 

Mr.  Naglb.  It  does  not  look  to  me  like  they  are  very  pleased. 

Mr.  Kass.  Let  me  just  say,  to  the  extent  that  any  long  trader  in 
the  market  with  long  futures  positions  has  a  hedge  against  pur- 
chasing soybeans  down  the  road,  for  either  export  or  processing — 
this  is  any  long  trader — the  fact  that  now  they  would  no  longer  be 
eible  to  hold,  say,  a  hedge  in  this  market,  obviously  whether  tiiey 
have  won  or  lost  will  depend  later  on  what  they  will  be  able  to  buy 
those  soybeans  for  in  a  cash  market.  If  they  are,  indeed,  able  to  ac- 
quire them  for  much  lower  prices,  they  even  could  have  some  ad- 
vantage. But  they  have  lost  the  hedge. 

What  the  ultimate  result  is  going  to  be  may  very  well  be  the  sub- 
ject of  lawsuits  and  evetything  else  down  the  road.  But  in  terms  of 
any  one  individual  trader  to  say  who  won  or  who  lost — to  the 
extent  there  was  demand  for  soybeans  in  this  market,  as  evidenced 
by  long  hedges  against  needs,  that  demand  did  not  go  away  as  a 
result  of  the  emergency  action.  The  demand  for  those  soyb^ns  is 
still  in  the  mtirket. 

Mr.  Nagle.  Mr.  Chairman,  if  I  could  have  the  indulgence  of  the 
committee  to  pursue  this  just  for  1  minute. 

You  meem  the  CBOT  talks  to  you,  you  talk  to  them,  and  then 
you  teike  this  action,  and  you  do  not  know  when  you  take  tl^ 
action,  or  when  you  aay,  "OK,  thanks  for  informing  us,"  what  the 
impact  on  the  individual  market  traders  is  going  to  be? 

Dr.  Gramm.  It  is  not  quite  that. 

Mr.  Naglb.  And  even  1  week  later,  you  do  not  know,  have  not 
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Dr.  Gramh.  No,  that  is  not  quite  that.  It  really  is,  a^ain,  a  coop- 
erative and — well,  let  us  not  put  it  that  way.  It  is  a  kind  of  Eiction 
where  the  exchanges  have  the  responsibility  to  ensure  orderly  liq- 
uidation, and  we  have  the  responsibility  to  ensure  that  they  do. 
And,  generfilly,  if  the  situation  were  to  arise  that  we  feel  like  w© 
need  to  tfike  an  emergency  action,  or  that  the  exchange  has  not 
te^en  sufficient  action,  then  we  can  act. 

Mr.  Nagle.  You  meeui  you  could  have  said  to  CBOT,  "Don't  do 
this?" 

Dr.  Gramm.  We  could  have.  We  could  have,  yes. 

Mr.  Nagle.  So  by  saying,  "Thanks  for  the  information,"  you  in 
essence  said  "Go  ahead." 

Dr.  Grahh.  No.  Their  board  made  the  decision  to 

Mr.  Nagle.  But  you  could  have  stopped  it. 

Dr.  Gramm.  We  could  have  taken  an — there  are  a  number  of 
emergency  actions  that  we  can  take. 

Mr.  Nagle.  You  could  have  stopped  the  sale? 

Ihr.  Gramm.  Yes. 

Mr.  Nagle.  Thank  you.  And  so  by  not  stopping  the  sale,  you  in 
essence  approved  of  it? 

Dr.  Gramm.  No,  no.  Again,  it  is  their  responsibility  to  ensure  or- 
derly liquidation  in  the  markets,  and  it  is  their  responsibility  first 
and  foremost.  Now,  we  review  these  actions,  all  along,  ao  if  we 
think  that  the  action  was  not  sufficient,  we  could  take  other  action 
even  toward  the  end  of  the  market,  the  market  is  still  open. 

Mr.  Nagle.  Well,  let  me  just  say  this,  and  I  thank  the  chairman 
and  the  committee  members  for  their  indulgence.  You  know,  in 
trying  to  do  this  reauthorization,  the  fact  that  you  have  been  moni- 
toring the  situation  since  May,  we  come  to  the  last  possible  minute 
and  you  could  have  ordered  the  liquidation  sale  before  then,  you 
could  have  blocked  the  liquidation  sale — and,  indeed,  I  think  some 
serious  consideration  should  have  been  given  to  that,  given  the 
outcry  that  it  created  and  the  lack  of  confidence  that  has  eroded 
from  the  markets.  I  do  not  find  your  answers — and  I  do  not  mean 
this  harshly,  but  I  do  not  find  your  answers  very  confidence-inspir- 
ing. I  mean,  you  cannot  tell  me  who  won,  you  cannot  tell  me  who 
lost,  and  you  cannot  tell  me  who  is  trading  even  though  I  can  read 
about  it  in  the  paper.  You  cannot  tell  me  what  conversations  you 
had,  and  I  have  to  drcig  out  of  you  the  fact  that  you  could  have 
blocked  the  sale. 

Dr.  Gramm.  These  markets  are  still  open,  and  I  would  point  out 
just  several  facts  that  I  pointed  out  earlier  that  we  did  have  a  sig- 
nificant inverse  before  the  emergency  action,  where  the  July  pre- 
mium to  the  August  premium  had  reached  over  40  cents,  which  is 
the  largest  July  premium  in  at  least  the  last  6  years.  We  had  an 
open  interest  of  40.3  million  bushels  with  a  deliverable  supply  that 
was  about  12.7  million  bushels.  In  the  4  trading  days  since  the 
emergency  action,  the  congestion  seems  to  have  been  reduced.  The 
July  futures  premium  to  the  August  future  has  declined  to  about 
15  cents,  so  it  appears  that  the  congestion  has  been  reduced.  And  I 
think  one  ought  to  remember  why  it  is  important  to  ensure  orderly 
liquidation  of  the  markets.  It  is  something  that  we  require. 

An  example  was  what  the  exchanges  undertook  several  years  ago 
to  ensure  onierly  liquidation  of  the  triple-witching  day,  for  exam- 


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pie.  Orderly  liquidation  of  a  market  is  very  important.  If  you  do 
n6t  have  order^  liquidation  of  a  market,  you  will  have  a 

Mr.  Naole.  Dr.  Gramm,  we  are  not  arguing  about  orderly  liqui- 
dation here.  We  are  arguing  about  an  action  Uiken  by  CBOT  that 
seemed  to  benefit  some  customers  at  the  expense  of  others. 

Dr.  Graum.  Any  time  there — and,  again,  as  I  mentioned  earlier 
in  private,  any  time  there  is  em  action,  emergency  action  that  is 
taken,  given  the  nature  of  the  markets,  there  are  some  that  benefit 
and  some  that  lose 

Mr.  Nagle.  But  we  cannot 

Dr.  Graum.  With  respect  to  their  positions,  that  that  is  why  the 
whole  issue  of  the  conflict  of  interest  and  the  procedures  that  they 
followed  are  very  important,  and  that  we  will  be  reviewing  in  this 
case  as  well.  These  kinds  of  arguments,  the  concerns  rEiised  as  well 
as  the  complaints  raised  by  people,  are  not  unlike  the  kind  of  com- 
plaints that  you  would  hear  in  any  emergency  action  that  any  ex- 
change had  taken  of  this  nature.  So  it  is  expected. 

Now,  what  we  do  is  we  again  have  to  monitor  the  markets,  and 
again  remembering  that  the  public  confidence  in  these  markets 
would  be  hurt  in  a  far  greater — have  far  greater  impact  if  there  is 
not  an  orderly  liquidation.  And  that  is  a  real  concern,  that  these 
markets  are  not  markets  that  are  here  primarily  for  taking  deliv- 
ery of  the  physical  old  crop  July  beems.  These  markets  are  primari- 
ly there  as  hedging  markets.  Aiid  it  is  the  responsibility  of  all  par- 
ticipants in  the  market  to  ensure  that  they  are  abiding  by  the  rules 
of  the  game,  the  rules  that  we  play  in  this  country,  to  ensure  that 
there  is,  for  example,  orderly  liquidation  all  the  time.  And  partici- 
psmts  must  know  and  play  by  the  rules  of  that  game. 

Mr.  English.  I  think  we  will  have  another  round  of  questions. 
This  does  complete  the  first  round.  We  have  the  honorable  chair- 
man of  the  Wheat,  Soybeans,  and  Feed  Grains  Subcommittee,  a 
person  who  hfis  a  great  deal  of  knowledge  in  this  particular  area. 
Dan,  we  are  glad  to  have  you  join  us  today. 

Let  me  say  one  thing  before  Dan  asks  his  questions.  We  checked 
and  there  are  some  14  studies  presently  ongoing  by  the  CPTC  in 
the  fourth  quarter  of  this  fiscal  year.  So  you  have  a  lot  of  studies 
going,  and  we  look  back  to  the  act  when  it  was  first  created,  and 
you  started  out  with  dual  trading  on  that  one.  So  you  have  studied 
dual  trading  for  about  15  years  now,  off  and  on.  Is  that  not  correct? 

Dr.  Gramm.  Yes,  but,  again,  I  would  point  out  that 

Mr.  Engush.  Well,  is  that  true  or  not? 

Dr.  Gramm.  We  have  a  lot  of  studies 

Mr.  English.  Have  you  studied  it  for  15  years  off  and  on? 

Dr.  Gramm.  Probably  so,  but  we  have  never  had  audit  trail  infor- 
mation. And  we  did  not  get  audit  trail  information  until  quite  re- 
cently. And  I  do  not  think  you  can  really  measure  the  benefits 
from  dual  trading  until  we  have  that  audit  trail  information. 

Mr.  English.  We  have  had  an  audit  trail  for  4  years,  and  I  sup- 
pose. Dr.  Gramm,  if  we  really  want  to  get  into  it.  And  if  you  want 
to  hang  around  here  this  afternoon,  I  will  be  happy  to  do  it,  as  to 
how  well  that  audit  trail  is  working,  how  much  of  that  information 
is  being  provided,  and  how  good  of  a  system  that  really  is. 

Now,  if  you  want  to  do  that,  I  will  be  happy  to  do  it.  The  point 
that  I  am  making,  though,  is  that  the  CFTC  has  looked  at  the  ques- 


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tion  of  dual  trading  now  for  15  years — 15  years.  They  do  a  great  job 
of  studying.  We  have  a  lot  of  studies  going.  We  have,  eis  I  said,  14 
going  on  just  in  the  fourth  quarter  of  this  year.  Goodness  knows 
how  many  others.  And  I  think  that  is  fine,  but  at  some  point  we 
have  to  do  something  with  all  this  studying.  It  has  to  come  to  an 
end. 

As  I  said,  the  whole  thrust  of  the  l^islation,  of  this  effort  that  is 
being  made,  is  raising  the  standards.  If  the  CFTC  and  you  want  to 
join  with  us  in  showing  us  how  we  are  going  to  substantially  raise 
the  standards  as  opposed  to  settling  for  the  status  quo  today,  I 
think  we  would  be  delighted  to  hear  from  you  on  that.  And  I  hope 
that  you  aH  will  help  us  in  that  area.  

I  think  the  point  that  Mr.  Nagle  made,  you  know,  the  CFTC 
simply  cannot  sit  on  the  sidelines  and  assume,  simply  because 
"Thank  you  very  much"  means,  you  know,  nothing,  it  is  wrong.  As 
Mr.  Nagle  just  pointed  out,  it  means  acquiescence.  In  effect,  it  is 
tantamount  to  approval. 

Dr.  Gramm.  Chi  the  contrary.  I  do  not  think  that  we  are  just  sit- 
ting on  the  sidelines,  either  on  the  soybean  case  or  on  all  these 
studies.  I  think  the  fact  that  we  have  a  lai^  number  of  studies  on- 
going indicates  that  the  issues  that  this  Commission  faces  every 
year  changes.  And  so  the  studies  that  we  are  doing  on  broker  asso- 
ciations, which  is  a  relatively  new  phenomenon,  for  example,  is 
something  that  would  not  have  existed  a  long  time  ago;  that  as  we 
learn  more,  we  will  have  more  studies,  but  we  are  also  doing  quite 
a  bit. 

The  Commission  was  not  standing  on  the  sidelines  in  proposing 
audit  trail,  for  example.  That  was  a  Commission  r^ulation,  a  pro- 
posal that  really  grew  out  of  one  of  the  dual  trading  studies  earlier 
on,  so  that  these  studies  do  produce  quite  a  bit  of  action.  And  we 
have  been  quite  active  at  the  Commission  not  only  studying  but 
also  undertaking  rulemEtking  and  actually  doing  things,  helping 
write  new  l^islative  prop(»als,  for  example.  And  we  do  stand 
ready  to,  again,  take  the  results  of  these  studies  to  further  improve 
our  markets  because  they  are  innovative  and  markets  with  a  lot  of 
public  confidence.  But  that's  not  to  say  that  they  are  markets  that 
are  standing  still. 

Mr.  English.  Mr.  Glickman. 

Mr.  GucKMAN.  Thank  you  very  much.  And  thank  you,  Mr. 
Chairman,  for  allowing  me  to  ask  questions  even  though  I  am  not  a 
member  of  this  prestigious  subcommittee  and  wish  I  were. 

Dr.  Gramm,  do  futures  exchanges  have  to  submit  to  you  in  ad- 
vance of  formal  action  taken  emergency  action  orders  by  those  ex- 
changes? 

Dr.  Gramm.  No,  they  do  not. 

Mr.  Guckman.  So  the  CBOT  could  take  an  emergency  action 
without  notifying  you  in  advance? 

Dr.  Gramm.  lliat  is  correct. 

Mr.  Guckman.  In  this  case,  however,  they  did  notify  you  in  ad- 
vance? 

Dr.  Gramm.  They  did. 

Mr.  Guckman.  And  you  under  the  law  have  the  authority  to  in- 
tervene or  to  veto  that  proposed  emei^ency  action? 


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Dr.  Gramm.  Hypothetically,  we  could  take  an  emergency  action 
that  would  be  counter,  that  would  basically  moot  their  emergency 
action. 

Mr.  GuCKMAN.  I  want  to  understand.  Under  the  law,  you  have 
the  authority  to  take  emergency  action  of  your  own,  right? 

Dr.  Gramm.  That  is  right.  That  is  correct. 

Mr.  Glickman.  You  could  have  taken  an  exact  similar  action  on 
soybeans  that  they  took? 

Dr.  Gramm.  Yes. 

Mr.  Glickman.  Without  them  approving  or  acquiescing  at  all? 

Dr.  Gramm.  That  is  right. 

Mr.  Glickman.  And  in  addition  to  that,  they  can  take  that  action 
without  your  approval? 

Dr.  Gramm.  That  is  right. 

Mr.  Glickman.  Isn't  that  a  mistake?  Should  they  not  require  at 
least — is  there  no  requirement  of  notification  to  you  if  the  ex- 
change takes  an  emergency  action? 

Dr.  Gramm.  They  do  have  to — there  are  some  requirements  in 
the  act.  If  an  emergency  rule,  for  example,  were  to  be  in  existence 
beyond  30  days,  then  they  have  to  come  to  us.  But  let  me  turn 

Mr.  Guckman.  Well,  I  do  not  want  to  get  into  a  long,  lengthy 
analysis  of  this  right  here. 

Dr.  Gramm.  They  do  have  to  notify  us  Eifter  the  fact  by  the  fast- 
est available  means. 

Mr.  Glickman.  What  is  that?  Federal  Express? 

Dr.  Gramm.  Telephone,  I  would  guess,  and  fax. 

Mr.  Guckman.  But  in  this  case,  you  were  talking  to  them  peri- 
odically, and  you  knew  in  advance  they  were  going  to  take  the 
action,  right? 

Dr.  Gramm.  Had  reason  to  believe  that  the  board,  yes,  would  be 
taking  that  action,  the  recommendations. 

Mr.  Glickman.  Well,  I  think  Mr.  Nagle's  point  is  an  excellent 
point,  though.  Once  you  know  they  are  going  to  take  an  action  and 
you  have  been  on  the  phone  with  them,  unless  you  give  them  a 
negative  point  of  view,  they  have  to  assume  that  they  are  taking 
that  action  under  your  auspices? 

Dr.  Gramm.  Well,  again,  you  have  to  bear  in  mind  that  what  the 
board  actually  decides  at  a  meeting  to  consider  recommendations, 
for  example,  from  the  committee  that  is  monitoring  the  situation, 
could  be  different  from  what  is  recommended.  We  had  an  indica- 
tion of  what  things  might  be  recommended,  but,  these  may  or  may 
not  have  been  what  actuedly  was  decided  in  the  board  meeting. 

Mr.  Glickman.  Mr.  Chmrman,  I  suggest  that  in  the  authoriza- 
tion process  you  ought  to  look  at  this  relatioi^hip  between  the  fu- 
tures exchanges  and  the  Commission  when  emergency  actions  are 
taken  to  make  sure  there  is  not  a  gap  there. 

Second  question  on  dual  trading:  Has  the  subject  of  front-run- 
ning been  discussed  today  at  all? 

Dr.  Gramm.  No,  it  has  not  been. 

Mr.  Glickman.  OK.  Can  you  define  the  difference  between  front- 
running  and  dual  trading? 


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Dr.  Gbahh.  Dual  trading  siinply  refers  to  the  fact  that  in  futures 
markets  an  individual  can  trade  for  his  own  account  and  for  his 
customer's  account  on  the  same  day. 

Mr.  GucKBiAN.  OK.  Front-running^ 

Dr.  Grahm.  Front-runnine  refers  to — and  it  is  usually  in  this 
context  referred  to  intermarket  front-running — a  person  uses  non- 
public information  about  a  pofiition  to  take  a  different  position  in 
another  market  expecting  the  first  position  to  have  a  price  impact 
on  the  second.  So  it  is  t£e  use  of  material  nonpublic  information 
about  a  position  or  an  incipient  action  in  one  market  and  profiting, 
or  taking  a  position  to  profit  fiitnn  that  information  in  another 
market 

Mr.  GucKMAN.  Is  iront-running  a  clear  violation  of  Federal 
criminal  law? 

Dr.  Gbamm.  We  believe  that  it  is  a  violation  of  the  criminal  law 
because  it  would  be  abusing  tlie  information. 

Mr.  GucKMAN.  But  there  is  no  Federal  front-running  statute 
ri^t  now,  is  there? 

Dr.  Gramm.  There  is  no  Federal  front-running  statute. 

Mr.  Tallon.  Would  the  gentleman  yield? 

Mr.  GucKMAN.  Yes. 

Mr.  Tallon.  Dr.  Gramm,  how  many  people  have  ever  been  con- 
victed on  criminal  chat^ges  by  the  Justice  Department  for  trading 
ahead  or  front-running  in  the  futures  industry? 

Dr.  Gramm.  het  me  turn  to  my  enforcement  director. 

Mr.  Ki^JNA.  We  could  get  you  exact  figures,  but  it  is  a  very 
rarely  prosecuted  matter.  iVpically,  when  a  U.S.  attorney  is  going 
to  bring  criminal  charges,  they  will  utilize  the  mail  and  wire  fraud 
statutes  rather  than  the  Commission's  antifraud  statute.  Neverthe- 
less, there  was  a  case  which  went  to  the  seventh  circuit  in  Chicago 
which  started  as  a  Commission  enforcement  action  and  which  was 
a  trading-ahead  case  brought  under  the  mEtil  find  wire  fraud  stat- 
utes. It  was  also  prosecuted  by  the  Commission's  Enforcement  Divi- 
sion under  the  Commission's  antifraud  provision. 

Mr.  Tallon.  Thank  you  very  much. 

If  I  would  suggest  to  my  colleague  from  Kansas,  I  believe  vet^ 
strongly  that  we  should  consider  putting  criminal  charges  in  this 
l^islation,  criminal  charges  for  trading  ahead,  or  front-running. 

Thank  you. 

Mr.  Guckmam.  Do  you  agree  with  Dr.  Gramm's  statement  that 
fivnt-running  is  tradiiog  ahead  of  an  account  that  affects  another 
market?  Comd  you  not  have  front-running  with  respect  to  the 
same  markets  that  you  were  trading  in? 

Mr.  Klbjna.  I  think  that  we  would  call  that  trading  aheztd. 

Dr.  Gramm.  Treiding  ahead. 

Mr.  Klejna.  Absolutely  trtiding  ahead.  Trading  ahead  of  a  cus- 
tomer order  by  a  commodity  professional,  there  is  no  doubt  in  our 
mind,  would  be  a  violation  of  criminfil  law. 

Mr.  Glickman.  Of  course,  some  of  the  charges  in  the  Chiceigo 
cases  right  now  are  trading  ahead  and  perhaps  front-ninnii^;  is 
that  correct? 

Mr.  Klejna.  According  to  the  public  reports. 

Mr.  Glickman.  Do  you  think  it  would  be  a  wise  move  for  this 
committee  to  specifically  make  those  charges  criminal  now?  Or  do 


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tions that  are  undergoing  by  the  FBI?  See,  I  want  to  make  these 
things  criminal,  but  I  do  not  want  to  let  loose  some  crooks  because 
we  have  now  said  something  is  criminal  that  maybe  we  are  not 
sure  was  criminal  before. 

Dr.  Gramm.  I  think  that  is  a  very  good  point,  and  I  would  afik 
Dennis  to  amplify  on  this.  The  concern  would  be  that  by  making  it 
criminal,  something  that  already  is  criminal  under  our  statute, 
that  it  would  call  into  question  whether  or  not  trading  ahead  of  a 
customer  is  a  violation  of  the  act.  And  that  would  be  a  problem. 

Mr.  Tallon.  If  the  gentleman  would  yield? 

Mr.  GuCKMAN.  Yes. 

Mr.  Tallon.  I  disagree.  I  think  it  is  absolutely  imperative  that  it 
be  made  criminal  in  this  legislation.  We  have  no  record  of  the  Jus- 
tice Department  coming  in  and  prosecuting  on  criminal  charges 
people  who  were  trading  ahead  of  customers. 

Mr.  Glickman.  Well,  the  best  way  to  handle  this  is  to  move 
ahead  with  making  trading  ahead  a  criminal  statute,  euid  let  us 
hear  from  the  Justice  Department.  They  are  the  ones  that  are  pros- 
ecuting this  case.  If  they  think  that  trading  Eihead  statute  would 
jeopardize  a  whole  series  of  criminal  indictments,  then  let  us  hear 
from  them.  But  it  is  hard  for  me  to  believe  that  we  should  not 
make  that  a  specific  criminal  statute. 

Mr.  English.  If  the  gentleman  would  yield  on  that  point,  we 
have  asked  the  Justice  Department  for  that  information.  It  is  my 
understanding  that  unofficially,  as  they  are  preparing  a  letter  for 
U8,  unofficially  it  is  their  opinion  that  that  would  jeopardize  those 
cases,  and  it  would  ceill  them  into  question  now. 

Now,  it  is  also  my  understanding — we  would  like  CFTC  to  com- 
ment on  this — that  the  problem  comes  in  not  with  the  question  of 
whether  this  is,  in  fact,  a  criminal  violation.  The  issue  comes  in 
getting  the  U.S.  attorneys  to  prosecute,  just  getting  the  U.S.  attor- 
neys to  take  it  to  court.  Is  that  the  gist  of  the  problem.  Dr. 
Grtunm? 

Dr.  Gramm.  OccEisionally.  We  have  worked  hard  to  promote  coop- 
erative enforcement,  and  I  think  in  the  past  we  have  had  to  do  a 
pretty  good  sell  job  to  get  them  to  take  some  of  these  cases.  Now,  I 
do  not  know  specifically  about  the  trading  ahead  cases. 

Mr.  Klejna.  I  do  not  think  that  anybody  would  think  that  the 
current  posture  of  the  U.S.  attorney's  office  in  Chicago  with  respect 
to  these  prosecutions  or  any  matter  about  them  is  anything  but  en- 
thusiastic. 

Dr.  Gramm.  That  is  right. 

Mr.  English.  The  point  I  am  making  is  not  with  the  U.S.  attor- 
ney in  ChiCEigo.  I  am  talking  about  historically  speaking.  It  is  my 
understanding  that  the  CFTC  has  had  difficulty  in  interesting  U.S. 
attorneys  in  this  particular  subject.  It  is  difficult  to  get  him  to  pros- 
ecute, which  explains  the  lack  of  fiction  in  this  area;  is  that  cor- 
rect? 

Mr.  Klejna.  Outside  of  the  current  situation  in  Chicago  and  a 
few  others,  we  have  tried  very  head  to  interest  U.S.  attorneys  in 
commodity  fraud  prosecutions,  and  it  has  been,  frankly,  some 
tough  going,  as  the  ChairmEin  has  indicated.  That  is  r^ht. 


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Mr.  GuCKHAN.  I  just  would  make  the  point,  I  su^ested  earlier 
on  this  year  that  we  ought  to  ban  dual  trading.  But  I  think  what 
we  want  to  han  is  the  illegeil  conduct.  And  I  gueas  my  fear  is  that 
until  such  time  as  you  have  the  adequate  audit  trail  requirements, 
you  have  to  bfin  the  trading  because  you  cannot  seem  to  get  to  the 
conduct.  I  do  not  know.  It  is  an  unclear  question. 

The  real  problem  is  not  frontrrunning  or  trading  ahead.  It  is  the 
ill^al  conduct  that  is  the  problem  because  that  is  when  you  are 
abiuing  the  pubUc  trust  eis  well  aa  the  private  trust.  But  if  you 
cannot  target  it  with  a  scalpel,  then  you  Eumost  have  to  bludgeon  it 
to  death  with  the  absolute  ban  of  dual  trading,  or  something  £ilong 
with  what  the  chairmfin  has  recommended. 

Mr.  Tallon.  If  the  gentlemtm  would  yield,  I  just  want  to  associ- 
ate myself  with  his  remarks,  and  I  also  want  to  state  one  more 
time:  If  it  is  a  criminal  felony  now,  it  will  be  a  criminal  felony 
when  we  put  it  in  this  legislation,  and  it  ought  to  be  there. 

Thank  you. 

Mr.  GucsMAN.  I  thank  the  chairman  for  recognizing  me.  I  WEmt 
to  also  compliment  him,  Mr.  Coleman,  and  Mr.  Penny  for  the  two 
sections  of  this  bill  requiring  some  independence  on  disciplinary 
committees,  as  well  as  requiring  some  public  membership  govern- 
ing boards.  I  think  those  are  excellent  provisions. 

Mr.  English.  Thank  you  very  much.  We  appreciate  it.  Of  course, 
I  am  sure  the  gentleman  recognizes  that  the  l^islation  has  im- 
proved, as  it  has  been  introduced,  at  least,  does  do  exactly  what  he 
IS  talking  about;  namely,  that  it  does  set  up  procedures  that  if,  in 
fact,  any  ts^w  of  fraud  whether  it  be  front-running  or  anything 
else,  can  be  detected,  so  long  as  the  system  can  detect  it,  it  is  fine 
to  do  duEil  trfiding.  But  if  it  cannot  be  detected,  then  it  is  banned 
except  imder  certain  conditions  which  the  CFTC  is  allowed  to 
impose.  And  so  we  try  to  provide  that  type  of  flexibility  he  is 
speaking  about,  and  I  appreciate  that. 

Let  me  say  before  we  start  our  second  round,  there  is  the  ques- 
tion with  regard  to  permanent  status,  and  I  want  to  make  sure 
that  we  have  this  in  the  record  and  that  it  is  very  clear  eis  to  what 
the  intent  is.  It  is  the  intent  that  the  CPTX^  will  come  before  the 
subcommittee  at  the  beginning  of  each  new  Congress  and  present  a 
budget  for  the  next  2  fiscal  years.  We  will  consider  that  request 
and  initiate  a  bill  to  authorize  appropriations  at  the  appropriate 
level.  We  will  not  consider  any  other  legislative  proposals  at  that 
time.  That  does  not  mesm,  of  course,  that  we  will  not  restrict  funds. 
We  will  identify  where  funds  will  be  spent  and  so  forth. 

It  is  my  further  intention  that  this  subcommittee  will  oversee 
the  CFTC  s  activities  continuously,  and  at  any  time  that  we  find  it 
necessary,  we  will  propose  and  consider  legislative  changes.  The 
CFTC  will  be  expected  to  propose  legislative  changes  at  any  time 
that  the  Commission  deems  it  necessary.  From  this  point  forward, 
let  everyone  know  that  the  CFTC  is  considered  to  be  just  as  perma- 
nent as  the  Department  of  Defense  or  the  Securities  emd  Exchange 
Commission.  These  agencies  and  many  others  come  before  their  au- 
thorizing committees  annually  and  biannually  to  request  authoriza- 
tion for  funds  for  their  functions.  This,  of  course,  does  not  relieve 
the  CFTC  of  appearing  before  the  Appropriations  Committee  to 
defend  its  request  and  our  authorization.  But  this  process  tells  the 


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world  that  the  CFTC  is  a  permanent  oi^anizataon,  that  its  author- 
ity will  continue,  and  that  this  subcommittee  and  the  full  commit- 
tee will  have  a  role  in  deciding  how  the  CFTC  will  be  funded  in- 
stead of  simply  leaving  it  to  the  Appropriations  Committee.  So  I 
want  to  make  sure  that  is  very  clearly  understood. 

I  want  to  come  back  again  and  underscore  that  the  purpose  for 
providing  this  permanent  status  is  not  to  be  taken  that  this  sub- 
committee or  myself  or  any  of  the  other  authors  of  this  legislation 
are  sayii^  that  the  CFTC  has  done  such  an  outstanding  job  and  is 
so  perfect  that  we  want  to  bestow  this  on  it.  Instead,  the  intent  is 
to  strei^hen  the  CPTC,  to  make  certain  that  the  CFTC  has  the 
resources  emd  has  the  support  of  Congress,  and  that  it  is  clearly  un- 
derstood in  carrying  out  its  responsibilities. 

Dr.  Gramm.  We  appreciate  that  support  and  also 

Mr.  English.  Well,  let  me  give  you  the  "but"  before  you  get  to 
that. 

Dr.  Gramm.  All  right.  I  thought  I  would  be  able  to  cut  it  off. 
[Laughter.] 

Mr.  English.  You  may  decide  the  "but"  is  not  worth  the  first 
part.  The  'T>ut"  peut  of  it  is  this  question  of  elevating  the  stand- 
ards. That  is  the  quid  pro  quo  of  permanent  status  for  the  CPTC. 
We  strongly  believe  that  the  standards  have  to  be  substantially  in- 
creased and  improved,  Euid  the  purpose  with  regard  to  the  other 
provisions  of  this  legislation  is  to  try  to  put  that  in  place.  What  we 
are,  in  effect,  saying  that  thrae  standards  shall  be  met,  or  there 
will  be  no  dual  trading  or  there  will  be  no  new  contracts  or  this  or 
that.  It  is  not  a  question  any  more  of  setting  standards  at  certain 
levels.  We  are  stepping  in  at  this  particular  point,  and  we  are 
trying  to  make  it  very  clear  that  we  expect  those  standards  to  be 
elevated.  And  we  think  that  is  something,  certainly,  that  we  would 
hope  that  the  CFTC  would  join  with  us  in  a  vigorous  manner  in 
helping  us  to  reach  those  objectives. 

I  just  wanted  to  make  that  very  clear,  and  I  also  wanted  to  make 
it  clear  as  far  as  exactly  what  this  permanent  status  meems. 

Dr.  Gramm.  Absolutely.  We  appreciate  that  support,  and  we  do 
recognize — the  whole  Commission  has  always  been  very  supportive 
of  very  strong  congressional  oversight.  Our  view  is  that  the  more 
people  who  have  scrutinized  and  looked  at  what  we  have  done,  that 
even  if  we  cannot  talk  about  certain  issues  on  an  ongoing  basis  like 
investigations,  et  cetera,  that  nonetheless,  upon  close  scrutiny,  as  a 
number  of  outside  people  have  done  as  well  as  congressional  bodies, 
that  it  has  been  good. 

Mr.  English.  We  will  try  one  more  quick  round.  The  chairman 
will  do  his  best  to  adhere  to  the  5  minutes  and  hope  everyone  else 
will,  and  then  we  will  break  for  lunch. 

I  want  to  go  back  to  the  soybean  issue  and  discuss  this  a  little  bit 
more.  The  question  comes  down  to  the  procedures.  You  responded 
to  Mr.  Glickman's  questions  about  procedures.  I  am  more  intere6t> 
ed  in  the  mechanism  and  the  attitude  of  the  CFTC  than  I  am  spe- 
cifically who  did  what  on  what  day.  But  as  far  as  the  way  that  this 
kind  of  action  is,  I  do  not  understand  it.  The  exchanges  are  under 
no  obl^ation,  the  way  that  you  responded  to  the  question,  they  are 
under  no  obligation  to  in  advance  of  this  decision  notify  the  CFTC. 


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It  is  only  after  the  fact.  "We  have  decided  this  is  what  we  are  goii^ 
to  do."  Ib  that  correct? 

Dr.  Gramm.  Basically,  yes.  But  basically  when  an  exchange  is 
going  to  do  an  emergency  action,  they  have  notified  us.  They  do 
notify  US,  particularly  when  we  are  talking  about  an  orderly  liqui- 
dation which  is  so  important;  there  is  a  constant  interactive  proc- 
ess going  on.  In  fact,  as  long  as  I  have  been  here,  the  exchanges 
have  told  us  beforehand  when  they  were  thinking  about  doing 
emergency  actions  and  the  reasons  for  doing  it.  And  I  think  that 
communication  is  beneficial  to  our  oversight. 

Mr.  English.  Well,  I  agree  with  that,  and  that  is  all  well  and 
good.  I  want  to  cut  through,  though,  what  the  exchanges  normally 
do  or  may  do. 

Dr.  Gramm.  Right. 

Mr.  Enctjsh.  I  want  to  get  down  to  specifically  what  is  required 
of  the  exchanges,  what  options  the  CFTC  may  have  available  to  it. 
As  I  underst^id  it,  there  is  no  obligation,  the  exchange  does  not 
have  to  notify  the  CFTC  until  after  the  action  has  taken  place.  Is 
that  correct? 

Dr.  Gramm.  That  is  true. 

Mr.  English.  Now,  what  would  be  your  position  in  possibly 
changing  that  notification? 

Dr.  Gramm.  I  think  there  is  a  difficulty  that  I  can  identify,  and  I 
will  turn  to  some  of  my  experts  on  this.  That  is,  let  us  suppose  you 
have  an  emergency  situation  occurring  that  the  board  of  an  ex- 
change or  a  committee  of  the  exchange  would  want  to  take  action 
on,  lliey  may  notify  us  that  they  are  going  to  do  it  or  have  a  rea- 
sonable expectation  of  doing  it.  But  in  that  process,  the  board  may 
decide  otherwise  based  on  other  information. 

Mr.  ENGLISH.  The  problem  we  are  into,  though.  Dr.  Gramm,  on 
this  issue — and  it  goes,  really,  to  part  of  what  is  in  this  l^islation, 
part  of  which,  if  I  remember  correctly,  you  are  not  very  enthusias- 
tic about.  And  that  gets  into  the  question  of  public  members  on  the 
board. 

Now,  as  it  stands  now  on  a  number  of  these  exchanges,  primarily 
what  the  board  is  made  up  of  are  the  brokers.  The  action  that  they 
are  going  to  be  taking  to  a  great  extent  is  what  is  going  to  be  in 
the  best  interest  of  those  brokers,  what  is  going  to  be  in  the  best 
interest  of  that  exchange,  which  is  an  entirely  different  responsibil- 
ity that,  at  least  the  way  this  member  sees  it,  that  you  as  chairman 
and  the  members  of  the  Commission  have;  namely,  to  look  out  for 
the  American  public  and  make  sure  that  the  integrity  of  these 
markets  is  maintained.  So  I  guess  the  question  that  comes  into 
play  here  is  that  it  would  seem  to  me  to  be  a  mistake  to  assume 
that  the  exchange  interest  and  the  CFTC's  obligations  are  one  and 
the  same. 

Dr.  Gramm.  Well,  first  of  all,  with  respect  to  the  issue  of  govern- 
ing boards,  that  is  something  that  the  Commission  identifj^  quite 
some  time  ago.  I  think  that  following  the  short  silver  study,  we 
made  recommendations  concerning  the  public  members  on  the 
board,  where  the  public  members  serve  as  a  witness.  As  I  indicated 
earlier,  we  do  monitor  the  boEu*d8  to  ensure  that  they  are  broadly 
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Mr.  English.  As  I  remember  in  reading  your  testimony,  going 
over  your  testimony  here,  basically  it  is  you  do  not  want  to  estab- 
lish any  levels;  you  kind  of  want  to  leave  to  leave  it  up  to  the  ex- 
changes, kind  of  leave  the  flexibilitv,  which  seems  to  me  you  want 
to  water  down  basically  what  is  in  the  legislation. 

Unfortunately,  my  time  is  up.  But  the  point  I  am  trying  to  make 
is  that  there  are  two  different  intereste  here  that  have  to  be  recog- 
nized, and  it  may  be  that  the  committee  may  want  to  look  very 
carefully  at  that  aspect. 

Mr.  Coleman. 

Mr.  Coleman.  Mr.  Chairman,  let  me  clarify  something.  Mr. 
Glickman  made  a  comment,  and  Mr.  Tallon  made  a  comment.  I  do 
not  wemt  the  impression  left  that  somehow  H.R.  2869  is  soft  on 
front-running  because  we  have  not  made  it  a  crime.  There  were 
reasons  given  why  it  was  not,  but  let  me  remind  the  subcommittee 
that  the  prohibition  on  dual  trading  is  much  stronger.  So  I  think 
we  have  gone  one  step  further,  just  to  prohibit  it,  so  there  could 
not  be  a  crime — there  could  not  be  the  opportunity  for  a  crime  to 
occur.  I  think  we  have  removed  the  cause  of  this  concern,  and  I 
want  the  record  to  show  that. 

There  are  some  who  are  suggesting  to  make  this  a  crime  and 
then  do  away  with  all  the  prohibitions  or  limitations  on  dual  treid- 
ing  as  a  quid  pro  quo,  and  I  suggest  we  intentionally  did  not  put 
that  in  this  bill  because  we  think  we  have  a  better  way  of  handling 
it.  And  I  know  that  some  have  a  different  opinion,  but  I  want  the 
record  to  show  what  our  intent  was — including  Mr.  Tallon's  opin- 
ion on  this. 

Mr.  Tallon.  Would  the  gentleman  yield? 

Mr.  Coleman.  I  will  yield  briefly. 

Mr.  Tallon.  Briefly.  My  concern  is  the  negative  impact  that  ban- 
ning dual  trading  would  have,  which  is  completely  legal,  the  nega- 
tive impact  it  would  have  on  the  liquidity  of  the  market. 

Mr.  Coleman.  We  are  going  to  get  into  that,  I  think.  We  can  ^t 
into  it  with  Dr.  Gramm.  We  can  get  into  it  with  the  exchai^es.  But 
let  me  ask  a  question  because  it  is  an  auditorial  question.  You  may 
want  to  refer  to  some  of  your  panel  of  colleagues  there. 

On  page  8  of  your  testimony,  you  talk  about  the  1-minute  trade 
timing  requirement  and  moving  the  industry  toward  an  ability  to 
improve  their  audit  trails,  et  cetera,  et  cetera,  and  talking  about 
the  potential  of  these  capabilities— we  are  talking  about  computer 
audit  trails,  of  course — and  achieving  their  potential,  whatever 
that  might  be.  Now,  that  is  in  your  stetement.  There  are  no  goals 
that  I  know  of  or  ateted  stendards  getting  to  there. 

Having  said  that,  let  me  point  out  that  in  our  legislation  we  have 
given  you,  the  Commission,  the  determination,  responsibility,  and 
the  authority  to  review  what  the  exchanges  come  up  with  under 
our  1-minute  time  and  our  SO-second  time  execution  and  transac- 
tion verification  trail.  But  you  have  to  come  up  emd  say,  yes,  that 
meets  the  approval  of  the  Commission  of  rapidly  reconstructing  an 
accurate  verifiable  record  of  these  transactions  as  determined  nec- 
essary by  the  Commission  to  provide  the  effective  enforcement  of 
the  applicable  provisions  of  this  act,  regulations,  et  cetera.  You 
have  no  stendards  now.  We  have  given  you  this  responsibility  and 
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Now,  let  me  ask  you:  Currently,  what  goals  do  you  have  in  mind? 
What  requirements  do  exchanges  have  as  far  as  audit  trails  and 
the  actual  reconstruction  of  those  transactions?  Is  there  such  a 
standard  today? 

Dr.  Gramm.  Yes. 

Mr.  Coleman.  And  what  is  that? 

Dr.  Gramm.  The  standard  that  we  have  in  our  rule  is  a  1-minute 
verifiable  audit  trail.  Now  that  the  audit  trail  has  been  implement- 
ed, we  have  done  a  first-pass  review  over  the  audit  trails  that  cover 
roughly  96  percent  of  trading.  In  this  review,  we  did  raise  a 
number  of  issues  that  could  further  improve  the  audit  trail  data. 
But  we  do  have  a  standard  in  existence  now,  and  we  are  asking  the 
^uhanges,  and  ourselves,  about  what  further  improvements  in  the 
audit  trail  might  be  appropriate. 

Mr.  Coleman.  All  right.  But  is  there  a  figure?  When  you  recon- 
struct trades,  do  you  get  an  80  percent  accuracy  rate  or  90  percent 
or  95  or  99  or  what? 

Dr.  Gramm.  That  is  right.  We  do  in  our  rule  enforcement  review 
look  at  the  verifiability,  the  level  of  confidence  in  those  particular 
numbers.  With  respect  to  some  of  the  computerized  systems,  they 
automatically  calculate  those  confidence  levels.  So  we  have  not 
only  just  the  number  but  also  some  sense  of  Uie  accuracy  of  those 
data. 

Mr.  Coleman.  I  am  trying  to  get  the  number.  What  is  the 
niunber? 

Dr.  Gramm.  It  differs  for  different  exchanges. 

Mr.  Coleman.  OK.  What  have  you  found  to  be  the  highest  accu- 
raCT? 

Dr.  Gramm.  Over  95  percent  in  some  exchanges. 

Mr.  Coleman.  And  what  exchange  was  that? 

Dr.  Gramm.  Let  us  see.  Which  exchange?  Let  me  turn  to  Andrea. 

Ms.  Corcoran.  We  have  done  reports  on  all  of  the  exchsmges — I 
mean  nine  of  the  exchai^es,  and  we  have  two  left  to  go:  Coffee, 
Sugar  and  Cocoa,  and  the  New  York  Futures  Exchange.  And  with 
respect  to  each  of  those  exchiuiges,  we  have  inquired  as  to  and  de- 
veloped figures  as  to  the  accuracy  that  they  are  achieving  now. 

I  n'ankly  would  have  to  go  back  and  look  at  those  reports  to  see 
which  exchange  has  the  most  accurate  timing  at  this  point  in  time. 
But  Edl  of  the  exchanges  are  in  excess  of  85  percent  that  we  have 
reviewed. 

Now,  the  rule  itself  is  a  100  percent  compliance  rule.  I  mean,  the 
point  is  that  there  has  to  be  some  preicticality  in  the  way  you  apply 
such  a  rule.  What  we  have  done  is  attempt  to  push  each  of  the  ex- 
changes in  the  direction  of  making  those  changes  that  would  im- 
prove their  accuracy  level  and  improve  their  ability  to  verify. 

I  would  point  out  that  the  audit  trail  you  have  now  is  light  years 
ahead  of  what  we  had  prior  to  1986.  It  can  be  used  to  reconstruct 
trading.  It  was  used  in  the  market  break  by  the  SEC  and  the  Brady 
Commission  to  reconstruct  trading.  And  it  can  be  used  to  research 
ofTenses  very  effectively,  but  it  can  be  improved  from  a  detection 
point  of  view.  And  the  Commission  has  moved  very  aggressively  in 
that  direction. 

Mr.  Coleman.  OK.  So  you  have  a  rule  now  that  requires  100  per- 
cent accuracy  which  no  one  has  yet  met? 


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Ms.  Corcoran.  That  is  rit;ht. 

Mr.  Coleman.  But  someone  has  hit  95. 1  understand  the  Chicago 
Mercanl^e  and  the  Board  of  Trade  have  88  or  89  percent  accuracy. 
We  will  hear  from  them  Thursday. 

Dr.  Gramm.  I  would  also  point  out  that  those  were  rule  enforce- 
ment reviews  of  an  earlier  period,  and  in  some  of  them,  we  have 
asked  them  to  make  further  changes. 

Mr.  CoLEHAN.  So  what  is  the  incentive,  what  do  you  do  to  tell 
them  we  want  you  to  hit  91  next  year  and  95  in  2  years  or  some- 
thing? What  is  it  that  is  going  to  move  them? 

Dr.  Gramm.  If  we  were  to  set  a  schedule  or  make  a  determina- 
tion that  we  want  to  have  another  standard  or  a  different  stand- 
ard, or  if  we  felt  that  an  exchange  was  not  meeting  the  current 
standards  that  we  had  set,  there  are  a  number  of  things  that  we 
could  do,  the  least  of  which 

Mr.  Coleman.  Current  standard  is  100  percent,  and  no  one  is 
meeting  that. 

Dr.  Gramm.  In  terms  of^well,  from  our  perspective,  there  are 
still  a  number  of  things  that  can  be  done  if  we  felt  that  the  ex- 
change was  not  meetii^  its  affirmative  responsibihty  for  compli- 
ance and  for  carrying  out  all  the  rules  of  the  Commission,  from 
bringii^  a  lawsuit  to  not  approving  contracts,  to  disapproving  con- 
tracts that  are  already 

Mr.  Colebian.  All  right.  There  are  things  that  you  can  do. 

Dr.  Gramm.  Absolutely. 

Mr.  Coleman.  But  this  gap  between  100  percent  and  whatever  it 
may  be  for  an  exchange  today,  those  threats  are  possible,  and  that 
would  move  them  up.  And  maybe  you  will  or  will  not  take  tiiat  po- 
sition. 

Now,  I  know  I  am  runnii^  over  my  time,  but  this  is  an  impor- 
tant point.  In  the  legislation,  we  have  prohibited  dual  trading  with 
certain  exceptions — 7,000  contracts,  et  cetera — but  also  Henbility 
to  you,  the  Commission,  to  issue  orders  to  exempt  exchanges  from 
this  limitation,  if  you  can  detect  any  and  all  instances  of  trading 
violations  which  the  Commission  determines  to  be  attributable  to 
dual  trading  and  is  fully  verifiable.  How  do  you  interpret  that  lan- 
guage? 

Dr.  Gramm.  That  there  could  not  ever  be  one  instance  of  a  viola- 
tion that  occurred  in  the  markets.  I  think  that  that  standard  is  so 
high  that  it  could  not  be  met. 

Mr.  Coleman.  AU  right.  What  is  the  difference  between  that  and 
your  100-percent  rule? 

Dr.  Gramm.  The  100-percent  standard  is  a  standard  that  one  has 
as  a  target.  Now,  whether  or  not  one  wants  to  require  100-percent 
verification  of  100-percent  competence  level 

Mr.  Coleman.  Well,  100  percent  is  100  percent. 

Dr.  Geamm.  Probably  may  well  not  be  cost  effective.  I  mean,  that 
is  one  of  the  things  that  we  are  reviewing  right  now  since  we  have 
gone  to  our  first  roimd  of  enforcement  reviews. 

Mr.  Tallon.  Would  the  gentleman  yield? 

Mr.  Coleman.  Well,  now,  let  me  ask  this:  Your  100  percent  is  a 
.  goal,  and  it  has  not  been  attained,  may  never  be  attained,  I  gather, 
under  current  technology. 


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Dr.  Geamh.  The  Commission  may  decide  that  it  may  not  be  at- 
tainable or  that  it  is  wise  t<> 

Mr.  Coleman.  You  may  withdraw  that  rule  and  put  one  in  that 
says  95  percent. 

Dr.  Geamh.  We  could. 

Mr.  Coleman.  OK.  Now,  do  you 

Mr.  Tallon.  Would  the  gentleman  yield? 

Mr.  Coleman.  Let  me  go  ahead  and  ask  a  question. 

Now,  do  you  think  that  we  need  to  have  some  language  different 
from  "any  and  all  instances,"  which  in  my  book  is  100  percent?  Do 
you  think  that  we  are  pushing 

Dr.  Gramm.  I  think  that  that  standard  is  an  extraordinarily  high 
standard  that — as  a  matter  of  fact,  the  point  I  made  earlier  is  that 
when  you  use  record  surveillance  to  monitor  meu'kets,  there  are 
some  things  that  might  not  be  caught  by  the  records. 

That  standard  is  extraordinarily  high,  "any  and  all."  One  of  the 
reasons  it  is  very  useful  to  us  is  to  determine  the  extent  to  which 
there  are  abuses  or  may  be  abuses  that  occur  which  records  may 
not  be  sufGcient  to  catch. 

And  don't  forget  that  the  abuse  of  the  dual  trading  privilege  is 
typicEiIly  the  trading  eihead  of  the  customer,  find  that  is  trading 
fdiead  of  a  customer  s  account  when  you  have  an  executable  order 
in  your  hand,  so  there  is  other  information  that  must  be  available 
as  well  in  order  to  bring  a  case. 

Mr.  Coleman.  And  detection  itself  would  require  100  percent  in- 

Dr.  Gramm.  No,  not  necessarily.  I  think  the  way  the  Commission 
looks  at  it  is  that  what  is  most  important  is  the  sequence  of  the 
trades;  the  trade  reconstruction  capability  is  really  what  is  most 
important. 

Mr.  Colehan.  I  know  my  time  has  run  over,  but  this  language  is 
strict  and  it  is  strong,  and  we  will  hear  more  about  it.  And  it  may 
be  that  what  we  want  to  accomplish  for  dual  trading — once  that 
audit  trail  is  in  place — we  may  see  we  have  a  standard  here  that  is 
too  high  to  be  met,  or  it  may  not  be.  I  want  to  hear  from  the  wit- 
nesses about  that.  And  you  are  telling  us  as  a  witness  that  it 
cannot  be  met. 

Dr.  Gramm.  In  my  view,  that's  true.  And  furthermore,  how 
would  we  ever  luiow — I  mean,  even  with  undercover  operations, 
there  might  be  a  time  when  there  could  be  abuse  that  occurs,  par- 
ticularly if  there  is  abuse,  for  example,  with  an  accommodating 
broker  where  there  might  be 

Mr.  English.  Why  don't  you  provide  us  with  what  you  think  is 
absolutely  the  very  maximum  that  we  could  expect  in  a  standard, 
and  then  we'U  take  a  look  at  that. 

Ms.  Long. 

Ms.  Long.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman. 

Dr.  Gramm,  you  advocate  self-regulation.  I  have  a  question.  If 
you  found  in  the  soybean  investigation  that  there  was  a  conflict  of 
interest  of  the  Boi^i  members  regarding  the  soybean  contracts, 
what  would  that  say  to  you  about  self-regulation?  I'm  not  saying 
that  is  going  to  happen,  but  if  you  found  that,  what  would  your 
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Dr.  Grahh.  I  think  it  depends  on  what  happens  in  response.  If, 
for  example,  there  were  a  particular  problem,  I  want  to  see  what 
the  exchange  did  about  that  problem — did  the  exchange  bring  a 
case?  One  of  the  things  that  we  do  in  our  review  of  the  exchange  is 
to  look  at  how  well  they  monitor  their  own  adherence  to  their  own 
rules  and  r^ulations. 

And  agftin,  I  should  point  out  that  this  self-regulation  is  not  any- 
thii^ — well,  it  is  certainly  not  like  what  I  thought  about  self-r^u- 
lation  earlier  on,  and  that  is  that  we  have  a  tremendous  amount  <^ 
oversight,  but  the  important  part  about  self-regulation  that  is  dif- 
ferent, I  think,  than  in  other  areas  is  that  the  exchanges  have  the 
responsibiht^  to  carry  out  their  activities  and  to  cany  out  the 
Commodity  Exchange  Act. 

So  not  only  does  self-regulation  try  to  rely  on  the  competitive- 
ness between  the  exchanges  to  do  the  best  job — obviously,  tbeir 
ability  to  stay  in  business  has  something  to  do  with  their  making 
sure  that  the  customers  and  the  users  are  satisfied  and  have  confi- 
dence in  the  market.  OK,  that's  reinforced.  But  what  this  act  does, 
which  I  think  is  different,  is  that  it  gives  them  also  the  affirmative 
responsibility,  with  us  standing  there  with  an  awful  lot  of  author- 
ity and  power  to  not  approve  their  contracts,  basically  to  counter- 
mand anything  they  might  wemt  to  do. 

There  is  £Ui  awful  lot  of  authority,  and  I  think  the  Commission 
has  over  the  years  been  very  mindful  of  that  authority,  and  we 
would  not  want  to  abuse  it,  either. 

But  the  fact  of  the  matter  is  that  the  exchanges  have  the  flexibil- 
ity and  the  ability  to  move  faster  than  Government  agencies  typi- 
Cfuly  do.  Nevertheless,  the  Commission  is  always  ready  to  bring  en- 
forcement action  on  its  own,  including  enforcement  action  against 
an  exchange,  if  we  think  they  are  not  carrying  out  their  responsi- 
biUty. 

Ms.  Long.  Let  me  ask  you  about  emergency  action.  We  know 
what  happened  to  the  markets,  find  we  know  how  the  drop  in 
prices  fiffected  farmers  last  week  when  the  Chicago  Board  of  Trade 
took  emergency  action. 

In  your  judgment,  do  you  think  that  before  rather  than  after, 
before  Ein  exchange  takes  emet^ency  action,  they  should  notify  you 
rather  than  waiting  untU  afterward? 

Dr.  Gramm.  1  haven't  identified  yet  any  problem  in  the  process 
of  notification.  As  a  matter  of  fact,  the  exchanges  typically  have 
notified  me  before  in  areas  where  they  don't  have  to— in  ma^in 
changes,  et  cetera — and  I  have  not  as  yet  identified  a  problem.  But 
again,  bear  in  mind  that  we  will  be  reviewing  all  of  tYas  in  terms  of 
the  process  and  notification  just  hasn't  been  a  problem. 

I^.  Long.  But  pragmatically,  given  that  you  have  the  authority 
to  order  them  not  to  take  the  specific  emergency  action  that  thev 
might  be  planning,  I  guess  I  have  a  disagreement  with  you.  ft 
seems  to  me  that  you  can  be  a  much  less  biased,  much  more  objec- 
tive body  to  determine  what  kind  of  emergency  action 

Dr.  Grahm.  I  think  one  of  the  things — and  again,  it  is  something 
that  1  will  maybe  want  to  think  about  and  visit  with  my  fellow 
commissioners  about — you  have  to  remember  that  when  you  are 
dealing  with  an  emergency,  typically,  there  are  things  that  are  oc- 
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vote  of  the  Commission.  We  are,  under  the  Government  in  the  Sun- 
shine Act,  to  wire  and  notify  people  of  a  meeting  7  days  in  ad- 
vance, even  for  a  closed  meeting.  I  think  the  way  the  system  is 
working  now,  we  haven't  found  any  problems  in  the  proc^  itself 
because  we  monitor  these  markets  very  carefully  ourselves,  and  it 
is  an  interactive  relationship  not  only  with  the  exchanges  but  also 
with  participEmts  in  the  markets,  to  ensure  the  orderly  liquidation. 
That  is  critically  important  if  these  markets  are  going  to  have  the 
kind  of  public  confidence  that  they  have  had  over  the  years. 

So  I  haven't  identified  a  problem  there  yet,  and  what  we  don't 
want  to  unwittingly  do  is  to  reduce  the  ability  of  exchangee  to  take 

auick  action  if  they  determine  they  need  to — again  bearing  in  mind 
liat  we  are  always  there  to  second^uess.  They  also  have  to  consid- 
er the  impact  on  their  pEirticipants  and  how  irritated  their  partici- 
pants would  be  as  well. 

But  again,  it  is  something  that  I'll  think  some  more  about  and 
certainly  it  is  em  issue — the  whole  emergency  action  issue — that 
will  be  reviewed  in  due  course. 

Ms.  Long,  liiank  you. 

Mr.  English.  Mr.  Tsillon. 

Mr.  Tallon.  Mr.  Chairman,  thank  you. 

Dr.  Gramm,  if  we  were  to  totally  ban  dual  trading,  it  would  very 
likely  have  an  adverse  impact  on  the  liquidity  of  the  futures  meu*- 
kets  in  this  country,  would  it  not — yes,  ma'am? 

Dr.  Gramm.  If  banned,  it  may  well  have.  Again,  that  is  one  of 
the  areas  that  we  are  looking  at  empirically 

Mr.  Tallon.  I  know,  we  are  waiting  on  the  October  study,  and  I 
guess  there  is  no  way  to  get  it  before  October.  It  is  just  pretty  obvi- 
ous to  me,  and  it  should  be  to  anybody  else,  that  certainly,  if  we 
have  a  total  ban  on  du£il  trading  that  it  would  adversely  impact  the 
liquidity  of  markets  in  this  country,  futures  markets. 

Dr.  Gramm.  That  certainly  is  what  we  have  been  told. 

Mr.  Tallon.  Dr.  Gramm,  what  about  foreign  markets  that  com- 
pete with  our  markets  here — what  kind  of  restrictions  do  they  have 
on  dual  trading?  Is  it  true  that  they  have  no  restrictions  on  dual 
trading? 

Dr.  Gramm.  Let  me  turn  to  Andrea.  In  the  London  markets,  they 
allow  dual  trading.  E>o  you  know  with  respect  to  the  other  mar- 
kets? 

Ms.  Corcoran.  We  have  not  made  a  survey  of  the  foreign  mar- 
kets, but  I  would  frankly  be  surprised  if  many  foreign  markets 
have  restrictions  on  dual  trading.  After  all,  it  is  only  recently  that 
foreign  countries  have  restrictions  on  insider  trading  at  all  in  the 
securities  markets 

Mr.-  Tallon.  If  you  could  provide  that  information  for  me,  I 
think  it  would  be  very  helpful  in  light  of  the  l^islation  that  we're 
looking  at  here  and  the  restrictions  that  we  are  going  to  put  in, 
because  it  would  seem  to  me  if  there  is  no  ban  on  trading  in  for- 
eign markets,  and  if  it  would  have  a  negative  impact  on  the  liquidi- 
ty in  our  markets,  we  would  certainly  stand,  Mb.  Gramm,  to  lose 
business  to  foreign  markets,  would  we  not? 

Dr.  Gramm.  Yes. 

Mr.  Tallon.  Thank  you  very  much. 

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Vba  Honorabl*  Clann  Bngliab 

Chairau 

Snbco^Bittaa  od  Conaarvation, 

Cradit  and  Rural  Daralopaant 
Co^Bittaa  OD  Aqricultnra 
Dnitad  Stataa  Houaa  of  RapraaaDtativaa 
1301  LoDgwort:h  Houaa  Offica  Building 
WaahiDgtOD,  D.C.   20515 

D*«r  Cbairwan  Bngliah: 

During  ^y  t««ti«any  on  Tua»d«y,  July  18,  1989  bafora  jour 
anbi;  u— iitta#,  yon  inquirad  whatbar  foraign  juEisdictiona  paradt 
or  prohibit  tba  practica  of  dual  trading  on  covaodity  aackata  in 
tbalr  joriadictiona . 

I  •■  ploaaed  to  aapplaaant  ay  taaponaa  on  thia  iaaoa  with 
inforaation  ralatod  to  tha  atatiiB  of  dual  trading  in  Anatralla, 
Franca,  Japan,  Ontario,  Quabac  and  tha  Dnitad  Kingdoa. 
Spacifically,  inforaation  collactad  by  tlia  Co^KKlity  Fntnraa 
Trading  Coaaiaaion  ('Co^aiaaion' )  on  tha  practica  of  dual  trading 
on  aajor  co^aodity  aarketa  in  tha  abova-raf arancad  JDriadictiona 
Indicatea  that  dual  trading  la  peraittad  on  aoch  aarkata. 
Howsvar,  aa  far  aa  tha  CoaaiaaioD  eon  aacartaln,  aoat 
jnriadictiona  alao  iapoaa  raatrictlona  aimilar  to  tboaa  iapoaad 
by  tha  CcaaiaaiOD  on  aoch  practica.   For  axaapla,  tha  laws  in 
affect  in  tha  Dnitad  Klngdoa  raquira  that  in  exacuting  tradaa, 
firaa  anat  aubordinata  thair  intecaata  to  thoa*  of  their 


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Mr.  Taixon.  Ms.  Gramm,  it  is  obvious  that  we  are  not  going  to 
maintain  the  status  quo.  We  need  to  have  some  standards  for  an 
improved  audit  trail  to  get  at  the  retd  problem  here,  which  is  not 
dual  trading;  it  is  "front-rurming"  or  trading  ahead  of  the  custom- 
er. I  would  think  that  the  CFTC  would  be  in  the  best  position  to 
come  to  this  committee — I  know  the  exchanges  in  New  York  and 
Qiicago  are  different;  I  know  they  have  fiieir  inherent  differ- 
ences— but  to  make  recommendations  to  this  committee  so  we  don't 
negatively  impact  on  the  efficiency  of  these  markets.  I  think  that  is 
tiie  greatest  service  you  could  provide  this  committee  at  this  time.  I 
am  speaking  for  myself,  but  that  is  certainly  something  that  I  wish 
you  would  consider. 

Dr.  Gramm.  We  will  certainly  try  to  do  the  best  we  can,  because 
I  do  think  it  is  important  that  the  committee  get  the  beet  and  the 
most  information  possible.  You  share  some  of  my  concerns. 

Mr.  Tallon.  If  the  CFTC  could  address  that  right  away,  I  think 
the  whole  committee  would  like  to  see  it — whether  they  agreed 
with  it  or  not,  I  think  it  would  be  very  helpful.  

Finally,  does  the  bill  that  has  been  introduced  give  the  CFTC  all 
the  necessary  flexibility  to  avoid  any  possible  negative  effects  of  a 
dual  trading  ban  on  markets? 

Dr.  Gramm.  No,  it  does  not  as  it  is  currently  drafted. 

Mr.  Tallon.  Thank  you. 

Mr.  CoLEBfAN.  Wait  just  1  minute. 

Mr.  English.  Let  me  go  over  that  a  little  bit.  I  believe  you  want 
to  reconsider  that  answer,  don't  you.  Dr.  Gramm? 

Mr.  Tallon.  Let  me  ask  the  question  again.  I'm  sorry.  Does  the 
bill  give  the  CFTC  all  the  necessary  flexibility  to  avoid  any  possible 
n^ative  effects  of  a  dual  trading  ban  on  markets — of  course 

Mr.  Engush.  Are  you  going  to  answer  for  her,  or  do  you  want 
her  to  ztnswer? 

Dr.  Grahh.  We'd  have  to  review  that  pretty  carefully,  but  we  do 
have  the  concern  that  it  does  not 

Mr.  English.  Let's  go  through  that  very  carefully,  then.  Dr. 
Gramm,  bo  that  there  is  no  question  with  regard  to  this  issue. 

With  regard  to  the  l^^lation 

Mr.  Tallon.  I  yield  to  the  chairman. 

Mr.  English.  1  appreciate  the  gentleman  yielding.  [Laughter.] 

He  has  had  the  gavel  over  there  all  day,  trying  to  play  chairman, 
so  I'll  take  it  back. 

The  point  that  I  am  trying  to  make,  though,  is  under  the  legisla- 
tion £ts  it  stands,  any  contract  that  trades  on  an  average,  6-month 
average,  of  less  than  7,000  contracts  per  day  is  exempt  unless  the 
CPrC  determines  that  in  fact  it  would  not  affect  liquidily,  it  would 
not  have  an  impact,  and  they  can  impose  less  than  7,000  con- 
tracts— correct? 

Dr.  Gramm.  Yes. 

Mr.  English.  Well,  maybe  to  speed  it  up,  I'll  just  go  through  it, 
and  then  we'll  see  if  there  is  any  question  with  regard  to  it. 

Dr.  Gramm.  OK. 

Mr.  English.  It  also  metintains  that  for  any  contracts  that  would 
go  over  that  7,000  at  any  particular  point,  or  transition— there  is  a 
transition  that  is  allowed  for  the  CFTC — it  also  allows  for  the  pro- 
vision that  should  in  fact  we  find  it  is  an  aberration,  the  CFTC  de- 


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termines  it  is  an  aberration,  tihey  are  not  required  to  impose  a  ban 
on  dual  trading.  Should  the  CFTC  determine  that  in  fact  this  does 
have  a  negative  impact — and  I  don't  have  the  exact  words  in  front 
of  me;  there  are  about  three  different  provisions,  which  are  ex- 
tremely broad  tuid  extremely  generous — which  in  effect  says  that 
should  the  CFTC  determine  on  any  of  these  contracts  that  it  would 
have  this  kind  of  n^ative  impact  that  the  CPTC  does  not  have  to 
impose  a  bein  on  duEil  trading. 

That's  an  awful  lot  of  leeway — in  fact,  we're  probably  going  to 
get  some  criticism  that  it  is  a  very  big  loophole. 

Dr.  Gramm.  Well,  I  guess — and  again,  it  is  something  that 

Mr.  English.  Is  it  true  that  you  do  have  that  flexibility  in  the 
l^islation? 

Dr.  Gramm.  We  do  have  flexibility.  The  bill  gives  us  flexibility. 
However,  I  do  question 

Mr.  Engush.  Is  there  anything  here — let  me  just  ask  you,  and 
we'll  cut  through  all  this — is  there  any  danger  that  you  can  per- 
ceive of,  any  threat  or  any  danger  in  which  the  CFTC  under  this 
l^islation  would  not  have  the  authority  to  suspend  a  ban  on  dual 
trading? 

Dr.  Gramm.  To  suspend — wait,  now 

Mr,  English.  Is  there  anything  n^ativethat  you  can  perceive, 
any  kind  of  danger  that  comes  up  that  CFTC  would  not  have  the 
authority  to  act? 

Dr.  Gramm.  What  about  GLOBEX,  for  example,  where  you  don't 
know  who  is  on  the  other  aide  of  a  particular  trade,  and  basically, 
since  you  don't  know  who  is  on  the  other  side 

Mr.  English.  I'm  just  asking  you — I'm  asking  the  questions — the 
question  is  can  you  come  up  with  anything,  any  particular  kind  of 
instfmce,  in  which  this  is  in  any  way  going  to  threaten  a  contract. 

Dr.  Gramm.  Well,  I'll  use  the  new  GLOBEX  screen  trading 
system  as  an  example — if  you  don't  know  who  is  going  to  be  on  the 
other  side  of  a  particular  trade,  how  would  this  pEU-ticulEU*  bill 

Mr.  English.  The  whole  point,  though.  Dr.  Gramm,  that  we  are 
getting  at  here,  and  the  question  that  Mr.  Tallon  was  pointing  to, 
is  a  threat  to  the  contract.  You  know,  I'm  not  asking  you  with 
regard  to  your  detection;  that's  up  to  you  all.  You  £dl  are  the  ex- 
perts, and  you  all  ought  to  be  able  to  detect  whether  dual  trading 
is  taking  place  or  not.  The  point  that  I  am  coming  down  to  is  can 
you  come  up  with  a  single  instance  in  which  this  would  threaten  a 
contract  that  is  not  covered  under  the  provisions  of  this  bill. 

Dr.  Gramm.  That  would  threaten  a  contract — in  the  sense  that  in 
order  to  remove  the  ban  on  a  particular  contract 

Mr.  English.  I'm  not  talking  about  removing  the  bfui.  I'm  asking 
you  CEm  you  come  up— the  whole  point  that  we  came  down  to  on 
this.  Dr.  Gramm,  is  this  question:  Does  this  in  any  way  threaten  a 
contract,  from  the  standpoint  do  you  not  have  all  the  authority 
that  you  would  need  that  if  in  any  way  a  contract  is  threatened  by 
this  action  of  banning  dual  trading,  that  you  could  not  impose  dual 
trading? 

Dr.  Gramm.  The  problem  is  that  the  standard  is  that  if  the  prohi- 
bition would  create  undesirable  price  volatility — unacceptable  wid- 
ening of  the  bid-ask  spread,  for  example 

Mr.  EInglish.  And? 


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Dr.  Gramm.  And  it  seems  to  me  that^^iat  is  sometiiiiig  that  may 
well  be  in  litigation.  Those  are,  agetin,  difficult  judgment  terms. 

Mr.  EbfOLiSH.  Well,  then,  why  don't  you  just  say,  "No,  I  cannot 
come  up  with  anything,"  because  that's  what  you're  sajring. 

Dr.  Grajoi.  lui't  that  an  example 

Mr.  KsQuSH.  I  don't  think  so. 

Dr.  Grahu.  Where,  if  the  issue  is  the  empirical  proof  that  this  is 
unacceptable  price  volatility,  caused  by  the  dual  trading  ban 

Mr.  English.  That's  a  judgment  call.  We're  giving  you  that  judg- 
ment. Dr.  Gramm.  We're  giving  you  that  judgment.  That's  for  your 
determination,  that's  for  your  judgment  call.  And  alt  I'm  sajring  is 
you've  got 

Dr.  Grahu.  But  those  terms  would  come  out  in  litigation  as  to 
whether  or  not  it  is  unacceptable  price  volatility  due  to  the  dual 
trading  ban,  which  would  be  very — it  is  a  difficult  standard.  It  is 
difficult  in  terms  of  the  evidence  that  would  be  required — again, 
these  are  somewhat  more  technical  issues  of  how  this  would  be  car- 
ried out.  And  therefore,  I  have  some  real  concerns  about  how  we 
would  implement  it.  While  the  bill  on  its  face  gives  some  flexibility 
there,  I  have  some  concerns  about  how  would  you  actually  imple- 
ment it,  even  given  these  ways  that  we  can  opt  out  or  allow  dual 
trading.  Determining,  for  example,  the  amount  of  acceptable  or  un- 
acceptable price  volatility  or  liquidity  in  a  market  is  very  difHcult. 
And  determining  how  much  price  volatility  or  lack  of  meu-ket  li- 
quidity is  due  to  the  dual  trading  ban  is  a  very  difficult  empirical 
issue.  I  mean,  this  might  be  the  economists'  employment  act  of 
1989,  and  I  would  again  hesitate 

Mr.  English.  Let  me  say,  Dr.  Gramm — come  on,  let's  drop  the 
sham  here — you  are  opposed  to  any  kind  of  ban  on  dual  trading. 

Dr.  Gramm.  That's  not  so  at  all.  I  really  do  have  an  open  mind 
on  this 

Mr.  English.  Let  me  go  ahead  and  finish  my  statement.  To  me  it 
has  become  very  clear  that's  what  your  position  is.  I  don't  know  of 
any  Government  body — I  don't  know  of  any  regulatory  agency — 
when  you  take  those  three  provisions  that  are  contained  in  tliat 
law,  that  couldn't  take  it  and  do  just  about  anything  they  want  to 
with  it.  If  there  is  criticism  of  it,  there  probably  should  be  strong 
criticism  that  it  needs  to  be  tightened  up.  We  are  trying  to  provide 
the  maximum  eimount  of  flexibility. 

Now,  there  is  one  point,  and  I  would  certainly  agree  to  this,  and 
that  is  that  whenever  the  CPTC  takes  this  action,  they  are  going  to 
have  to  come  up  before  this  subcommittee  and  justi^  that  action. 
And  I  would  certainly  hope  that  should  the  CFTC  exercise  euiy  one 
of  these  provisions  that  they  would  be  prepared  to  do  that;  I  would 
hope  that  you  in  effect  would  be  able  to  back  up  the  stance  that 
you've  taken.  That's  basically  what  this  provision  has  done. 

But  to  try  to  tell  us  what  the  language  that  is  in  that  l^isla- 
tion — my  goodness,  there  isn't  a  bureaucrat  in  this  town  wordh  his 
salt  that  couldn't  take  that  and  do  just  about  anjrthing  they  want 
to — but  the  one  provision  is  that  you'll  have  to  come  up  and  justify 
it  before  this  subcommittee. 

Dr.  Gramm.  I  am  sure  that  we  could  pass  a  rule  on  anytlung  that 
would  implement  the  Conunodity  Exchange  Act.  The  question  was, 


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do  I  think  we  have  the  sufficient  flexibility  here.  I  should  point 
out 

Mr.  English.  No,  that  wasn't  the  question.  That  was  not  the 
question.  I  asked  you  if  you  could  come  up  with  any  specific  exam- 
ples in  which 

Dr.  Gramm.  Oh,  that  was  the  second  question,  the  follow-up  ques- 
tion. 

Mr.  English.  That  would  in  any  way  threaten  any  contract  that 
is  available,  and  you  haven't. 

Dr.  Gramm.  Again,  I  think  those  are  issues— as  I  said  earlier  in 
my  testimony,  the  Commission  is  taking  a  broad  brush  look  at  this, 
but  there  are  some  very  diiTicult  technical  questions  about  this  peir- 
ticular  bill  that  I  would  like  to  review. 

Now,  on  your  statement  that  I  am  opposed  to  a  ban  on  dual  trad- 
ing, I  don't  think  that  is  correct.  I  have  not  come  from  any  perspec- 
tive except  one  of  looking  at  the  issue  using  the  best  information 
that  we  can  have  which  includes  for  the  first  time  information  that 
we  will  have  ofT  the  audit  trail;  it  may  include  additional  informa- 
tion from  the  Justice  Department.  And  I  have  not  in  my  mind 
made  up  any  position  with  respect  to  dual  trading  or  being  opposed 
to  the  ban  on  dual  trading. 

Mr.  English.  Mr.  Nagle. 

Mr.  Nagle.  Hi.  See,  I  m  the  nice  guy  here.  [laughter.] 

Let  me  ask  you  something  else,  if  I  can. 

Mr.  Smith  was  here  before  you — I  think  you  were  in  the  room — 
and  he  mentioned  something  that  I  wanted  to  make  inquiry  about 
In  his  testimony,  he  said: 

The  law  as  it  hae  been  developed  under  our  various  securities  statutes  is  based  on 
the  unfairness  of  allowing  traders  to  profit  from  their  own  accounts  with  the  use  of 
infoimation  not  available  to  others  in  the  marketplace.  The  same  type  of  activiW 
that  securities  law  prohibits  is  not  illegal  in  futures  trading,  and  the  acts  for  which 
people  are  being  prosecuted  in  New  York  would  not  be  illegal  in  futures. 

Is  there  a  ban  on  insider  trading  in  the  futures  markets? 

Dr.  Gramm.  No,  but  there  are  a  number  of  practices  which  are 
unlawful  by  either  rule  or  regulation  that  could  be  considered  in- 
sider trading  for  the  futures  markets.  For  example,  trading  ahead 
of  one's  customer 

Mr.  Nagle.  No,  no,  we're  not  talking  about  that.  Let  me  go  fur- 
ther. 

An  official  of  the  futures  exchange,  an  account  executive,  a  floor  broker,  or  even 
tiie  backroom  staff  of  a  futures  commission  merchant,  could  use  nonpublic  informa- 
tion regarding  a  laree,  reportable  position  in  futures  contract  of  his  customers 
where  flie  anticipated  transaction  leads  to  profit  in  their  own  account. 

Dr.  Gramm.  This  is  in  the  futures  exchange 

Mr.  Nagle.  Yes. 

Dr.  Gramm.  Of  a  futures  exchange. 

Mr.  Nagle.  All  right.  Well,  there  are  two  rules  that  I  think  are 
worth  mentioning.  One  is  that  there  is  a  Commission  rc^rulation 
that  says  employees  of  an  exchange  may  not  disclose  or  use  non- 
public material  or  nonpublic  information.  Furthermore,  we  have 
required  all  exchanges  to  have  regulations  that  would  prohibit 
members  from  using  material,  nonpublic  information,  that  they 
obtain  in  the  course  of  their  serving  on  various  boards  and  commit- 
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Dr.  Ghamm.  So  that  would  be  covered. 

Mr.  Nagle.  Now,  if  I  were  a  trader,  and  I  got  wind  of  the  fact 
that  CBOT  waB  going  to  meet  and  discuss  a  possible  liquidation 
sale  in  the  futures  market  in  soybeans  for  July,  and  I  got  that  at  2 
o'clock,  and  the  Commiesion  took  its  afternoon  at  3  o'clock,  would 
that  be  an  "illeged"  activity  by  CFTC  r^ulation? 

Dr.  Gramm.  Are  you  saying  that  someone  picked  up  a  rumor 
that  there  might  be  a  meeting? 

Mr.  Naole.  Well,  a  rumor  bfised  on  good — there  are  good  rumors 
and  bad  rumors.  Suppose  I  picked  up  a  good  rumor. 

Dr.  Gramm.  Well,  rumors  would  not  be  illegal.  Now,  if  a  board 
member  disclosed  information  that  is  material  nonpublic  informa- 
tion, that  would  be  a  violation  of  that  r^ulation.  But  rumors 
abound  in  all  markets,  on  the  securities  side  as  well. 

Mr.  Naole.  Well,  let  me  just  ask  you  this,  then.  I  don't  mean 
this  in  terms  of  hostility,  but  I  think  maybe  Mr.  Smith  raised  a 
good  point  when  he  was  here.  Is  there  anybody  that  favors  permit- 
ting trading  on  inside  information? 

Dr.  Gramm.  Well,  if  I  am  a  large  cotton  farmer,  and  I  know  I  am 
going  to  bring  a  certain  number  of  bales  of  cotton  to  market,  and  I 
use  that  information  myself  to  hedge  on  the  futures  market,  that  is 
hedging,  and  that  is  really  a  function  of  the  futures  market 

t£r.  Nagle.  I  understand. 

Dr.  Gramm.  We  wouldn't  consider  that  insider  trading,  but  in 
some  sense  we  have  to  be  careful. 

Mr.  Nagle.  I  mean  the  type  of  inside  information  that  is  prohib- 
ited in  the  securities  market;  is  that  permitted  in  the  futures 
market? 

Dr.  Gramm.  Agetin,  insider  trading  in  the  securities  markets 
refers  to  nonpublic  information  about  a  company,  about  actions 
that  a  company  may  take  and  the  impact  on  the  price  of  their 
stock — their  individual  stock,  which  is  a  little  different.  So  we  can't 
just  transpose  from  the  securities  markets  into  the  futures  mar- 
kets. 

However,  I  would  point  out  that  there  are  a  number  of  insider 
trading-like  prohibitions  and  rules  that  are  already  unlawful, 
either  through  rule  or  regulation  or  through  the  customer  abuse 
aspects  of  this  act. 

The  one  area,  I  think,  where  Congressman  Smith  pointed  out — I 
think  there  was  one  area  where  there  aren't  rules — and  that  covers 
the  employees  of  a  company,  a  private  company,  and  whether  or 
not  that  employee  would  use  that  material,  nonpublic  information, 
of  an  impending  action  of  a  private  company. 

Now,  we  would  argue  that  if  that  person  had  a  responsibility,  for 
example,  for  trading  for  that  company  and  used  that  information, 
that  that  would  violate  their  fiduciary  responsibility  to  the  compa- 
ny, and  therefore  would  be  a  violation  under  our  rules. 

However,  if  it  is,  say,  just  somebody  who  works  for  the  company 
who  may  learn  that  the  company  or  know  that  the  company  may 
be  bringing  a  certain  amount  to  market,  and  therefore  trades, 
using  that  information,  trades  on  the  market,  that  would  not  be 
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Mr.  Naqle.  My  time  is  out,  and  I  want  to  move  along,  but  could 
I  ask  you  to  do  this — would  you,  before  the  end  of  the  week,  please 
review  Mr.  Smith's  bill,  H.R.  60S 

Dr.  Gramm.  Yes,  we  would  be  happy  to. 

Mr.  Nagle.  And  respond  as  to  the  CFTCs  reaction  to  that.  I 
don't  mean  this  in  any  antfigonism,  but  I  don't  think  anybody  ap- 
proves of  prohibited  insider  trading  practices  or  inside  information 
practices,  and  I  think  that  if  we  have  to  strengthen  it  to  ensure  the 
sanctity  of  the  market,  it  is  a  proper  step  that  we  all  ought  to  join 
in,  and  maybe  we  all  ought  to  join  Mr.  Smith  where  we  can  in 
doing  that.  But  I  would  be  interested  in  your  reaction  to  it,  and  I 
know  you  did  not  know  I  was  going  to  eisk  you  this  morning,  so 
w^  don't  you  study  it  tind  get  back  to  me? 

Dr.  GsAMH.  Absolutely,  we'd  be  happy  to. 

Mr.  Nagle.  Thank  you  very  much. 

Mr.  English.  Mr.  Penny. 

Mr.  Penny.  Thank  you,  Mr.  ChEiirman. 

Let  me  go  to  soybeans.  You  indicated  that  you  saw  for  several 
weeks  this  crisis,  if  we  can  call  it  that,  developing  in  which  there 
was  a  monopoly  in  terms  of  one  firm  holding  a  high  percent  of 
those  soybean  futures. 

Didn't  you  also  testify  that  you  were  in  regular  contact  with  the 
Chicago  Board  of  Trade  about  that  impending  problem? 

Dr.  Gramm.  Yes.  May  I  make  a  prefatory  comment?  There  have 
been  a  number  of  statements  by  members  about  what  we  saw  or 
what  our  position  was,  and  I  want  to  be  very  careful.  It  is  like  what 
I  do  to  reporters  sometimes  when  they  say,  "Do  you  mean  this?"  I 
would  just  like  to  be  sure  that  what  I  say  about  the  markets,  in 
fact,  that  we  are  concerned,  and  we  monitor  these  markets — that  is 
what  I  mean — and  that  I  haven't  necessarily  come  to  conclusions 
as  to  the  existence  or  nonexistence  of  other  speciiic  problems  in 
markets. 

Mr.  Penny.  But  you  saw  the  situation  developing. 

Dr.  Gramm.  We  saw  a  situation  developing  where  we  had  surveil- 
lance concerns  about  the  orderly  liquidation. 

Mr.  Penny.  And  you  talked  on  a  regular  basis  with  the  Chicago 
Board  of  Trade  about  this  development? 

Dr.  Gramm.  We  share  information,  yes. 

Mr.  Penny.  One  of  your  roles  is  to  assure  orderly  liquidation  in 
the  market.  Wouldn't  it  have  been  more  orderly  for  some  decision 
to  have  been  made  earlier  about  liquidating  those  contracts  so  that 
it  could  have  occurred  over  a  longer  period  of  time,  leading  up  to 
the  July  20  deadline? 

Dr.  Geamm.  Let  me  speak  more  generally,  rather  than  the  specif- 
ic case,  which  again,  we  are  going  to  be  reviewing.  But  again,  the 
market  emergency  or  congestion  at  the  liquidation  doesn  t  neces- 
sarily occur  2  weeks  out.  You  can  see  a  problem  occurring,  but  if 
the  people  with  large,  concentrated  positions  begin  to  liquidate, 
then  you  won't  necessarily  have  a  problem. 

Dave,  would  you  like  to  expand  on  that? 

Mr.  Kass.  Yes.  It  has  been  mentioned  that  we  have  monitored 
this  for  several  weeks,  but  obviously,  there  are  always  opportuni- 
ties for  the  situation  to  resolve  itself,  either  through  availability  of 
additional  soybeans — for  example,  this  year  we  had  a  limit  up 


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move  with  a  weather  Bcare  in  early  July  and  made  more  soybeans 
available,  and  farmers  sold  more.  Now,  if  that  had  continued  at  a 
higher  price  level,  perhaps  the  farmers  would  have  sold  more. 

In  addition,  there  is  the  Brazilian  situation  and  many  labor  prob- 
lems that  have  stymied  the  export  of  that  crop,  and  producers  have 
gone  on  strike.  Now,  if  that  had  resolved  itself,  it  may  also  have 
made  other  soybeans  available  to  satisfy  needs  in  the  markets.  And 
that  is  a  day  to  day,  hour  to  hour  thing  that  you  monitor.  We  are 
in  contact  with  all  the  major  traders.  If  there  are  longs,  we  are 
asking  about  intentions  to  take  delivery,  what  are  they  securing  in 
the  physical  markets  to  meet  their  needs.  If  there  are  shorts,  we 
are  asking  about  their  abilities  to  make  delivery  and  what  are  they 
doing  to  secure  supplies  in  the  physical  market;  what  about  owner- 
ship. We  do  have  broad  inspection  powers  under  the  law  that  we  do 
examine  routinely  in  instances  of  concerns,  specific  contracts  of 
commitment — if  a  trader  tells  us  he  or  she  has  processing  needs, 
we  will  examine  his  or  her  weekly/daily  processing  capacities  and 
how  they  have  been  utilizing  that. 

We  examine  specific  export  sales — what  is  the  quantity,  what  are 
the  shipping  dates,  when  do  they  need  these,  what  ports  are  they 
going  to  ship  out  of,  what  types  of  soybeans,  and  what  efforts  they 
have  made  to  acquire  those  soybeans 

Mr.  Penny.  Are  all  those  pieces  of  information  things  you  are 
looking  at?  I  know  you  don't  want  to  be  specific,  but  as  this  whole 
thing  was  developing,  were  you  looking  at  all  these  other  factors  as 
well  to  determine  whether  there  was  a  legitimate  reeison  for  cer- 
tain firms  to  be  acquiring 

Dr.  Gramm.  Absolutely. 

Mr.  Kass.  Without  fail,  any  time  any  market — if  a  long,  for  ex- 
ample, says  we  need  May  com,  July  soybeans,  whatever  it  might 
be,  and  we  must  take  July  deliveries  because  of  our  immediate 
pressing  need  for  processing  exports,  whatever  it  might  be,  we  gen- 
erally ask  for  verification  in  terms  of  photocopies  of  export  con- 
tract, records  of  processing  requirements  they  have  been  using; 
and  on  the  other  hand,  shorts,  if  they  indicate  that  they  have 
hedges  against  this,  against  the  inventory,  or  they  have  the  where- 
withal to  acquire  the  com  or  soybeans,  we  examine  those  capabili- 
ties as  well. 

Mr.  pENPnr.  Are  you  free  to  say  whether  you  were  satisfied  with 
the  information  about  the  need  of  this  firm  to  acquire  that  volume? 

Mr.  Kass.  First  of  all,  we  haven't  confirmed  or  denied  any  specif- 
ic firm  being  involved  in  this.  There  obviously  is  a  matter  of  some 
court  record  of  one  particular  firm  having  certain  positions  which 
were  revealed  through  a  court  record  in  Chicago  last  Thursday. 
But  we  obviously  cannot  comment  on  an  ongoing  market  situation. 

Mr.  Penny.  What  might  have  been  the  market  reaction  if  a  liqui- 
dation order  had  been  signaled — if,  by  such-and-such  a  date,  this 
trend  continues,  we  will  force  a  liquidation — would  it  have  the 
exact  same  effect,  only  3,  4  days  earlier,  or  1-week  earlier? 

Mr.  Kass.  I  don't  think  you  can  prejudge  that.  I  was  around 
when  we  took  the  Hunts  to  court  in  soybeans  in  1977,  and  on  a 
day-to-day  basis  as  we  were  in  District  Court,  as  the  testimony  was 
coining  out,  soybean  prices  were  going  up  or  down  depending  upon 
who  looked  like  they  were  going  to  be  successful 


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Mr.  Penny.  So  instead  of  waiting  until  last  Thursday,  I  guess,  if 
a  week  and  a  half  or  2  weeks  earlier,  we  had  said,  look,  we  are  ap- 
proaching July  20,  and  on  July  12  or  13,  we  are  going  to  take  this 
action  if  things  don't  correct  themselves  by  then,  that  wouldn't 
necessarily  have  resulted  in  a  more  orderly  ^nd  of  exchange? 

Mr.  Kass.  I  think  I  would  like  to  leave  open  the  possibility  that 
those  sorts  of  things  were  being  done. 

Mr.  Penny.  Do  you  think  that  they  were  being  done  in  this  case, 
that  the  signal  was  being  sent? 

Mr.  Kass.  I  cannot  comment  on  this  case,  hut  it  would  not  be  im- 
usual  for  us  to  take  actions  with  individual  traders. 

Mr.  Penny.  Does  the  CFTC  have  the  authority  to  step  in  and  dic- 
tate to  a  board  that  that 

Dr.  Gramm.  We  can  take  the  action  ourselves. 

Mr.  Penny.  But  you  generally  choose  not  to 

Dr.  Gramm.  No,  that  s  not  true. 

Mr.  Penny.  You  generally  choose  to  kind  of  talk  back  and  forth 
and  let  the  board  decide  how  to  handle  it  and  then  review  it  eifter- 
WEU'ds  to  see  if  they  did  the  right  thing? 

Mr.  Kass.  Without  commenting  on  July  soybeans,  we  often  take 
actions,  and  we  may  have  in  this  case,  that  don't  meike  the  press. 
We  don't  like  to  become  a  market  factor. 

Mr.  Penny.  You  are  neither  confirming  nor  denying  that  you 
took  action  on  this  prior  to  last  Thursday? 

Mr.  Kass.  It  is  not  unusual  for  us  to  take  actions  in  terms  of  cau- 
tioning traders,  warning  traders  formally,  in  terms  of  curbs  and  re- 
strictions on  their  hed^ng  capabilities  and  things  like  that  in  past 
liquidations.  Now,  whether  we  have  done  those  things  already,  or 
contemplate  that  in  this  liquidation,  we're  not  going  to  comment. 

Mr.  Penny.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman. 

Mr.  Engush.  Thank  you  very  much,  Mr.  Penny.  I  appreciate  it. 

I  think  we'll  recess,  and  our  next  witness  will  be  Mr.  John  Dam- 
gard.FIA. 

Let  me  also  say.  Dr.  Gramm,  before  jrou  leave,  there  is  certain 
mformation  that  we  requested  last  week,  and  it  is  my  understand- 
ing that  will  be  provided  to  us  on  Friday;  is  that  correct? 

Dr.  Gramh.  I'd  like  to  discuss  that  with  you  further,  as  I  indicate 
ed  yesterday.  I  have  some  concerns  about  information  that  is  confi- 
dential, marketrspecific  information. 

Mr.  English.  Well,  it  is  my  understanding  that  we  had  reached 
an  agreement,  or  at  least  my  staff  in  talMng  to  your  staff  had 
reached  this  agreement  last  Friday  that  we  would  not.  So  you  are 
telling  us  you  have  not  agreed  to  give  us  that  information? 

Dr.  Gramm.  No.  I  believe  that  what  the  discussion  with  staff  ulti- 
mately was  was  that  we  would  have  to  discuss  that,  the  principles, 
meaning 

Mr.  English.  Well,  let  me  state  very  clearly  this  subcommittee 
intends  to  obtain  that  information.  And  if  I  need  to  take  it  up  with 
the  other  subcommittee  members,  I  will. 

Dr.  Gramm.  I  appreciate  your  expression  of  that  view.  I  would 
like  to  spend  some  time  discussing  that  a  little  further. 

Thank  you. 

Mr.  English.  We  will  recess  until  2:30. 


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AFTERNOON  SESSION 

Mr.  English.  The  hearing  will  come  to  order. 

This  afternoon  our  first  witness  will  be  Mr.  John  Damgard  who 
is  president  of  the  Futures  Industry  Association  here  in  Washing- 
ton, DC. 

John,  we  want  to  welcome  you  here  and  we  would  be  happy  to 
receive  your  testimony. 

I  might  remind  our  witnesses  that  perhaps  either  were  not  here 
this  morning  or  maybe  forgot,  that  without  objection  your  full  writ- 
ten testimony  will  be  made  a  part  of  the  record,  so  feel  free  to  sum- 
marize and  any  of  you  that  have  planes  might  want  to  summarize 
even  more  than  the  summary,  I  do  not  know. 

STATEMENT  OF  JOHN  M.  DAMGARD,  PRESIDENT,  FUTURES 
INDUSTRY  ASSOCIATION 

Mr.  Damgard.  I  am  pleased  to  do  that,  Mr.  Chairman.  I  am  de- 
lighted to  be  here,  and  I  will  submit  my  whole  statement  for  the 
record.  I  would  like  very  much  to  touch  on  the  parts  that  the  FIA 
feels  are  the  most  important. 

Mr.  Chairmfin  and  members  of  the  subcommittee,  my  name  is 
John  Damgard,  and  I  am  here  today  in  my  capacity  as  president  of 
the  Futures  Industry  Association,  "rtiank  you  very  much  for  the  op- 
portunity to  appear  before  you  today  on  behalf  of  the  members  of 
the  FIA. 

The  FIA  is  the  nationed  trade  association  of  the  commodity  fu- 
tures and  option  trading  industry.  Our  r^ular  membership  is  com- 
prised of  more  than  100  of  the  largest  futures  brokerage  firms, 
known  as  "futures  commission  mercluints"  or  "FCM's."  They 
handle  more  them  80  percent  of  the  transactions  on  the  U.S.  fu- 
tures exchanges. 

At  the  FIA,  our  primary  concern  is  to  protect  the  interests  of 
those  who  use  and  benefit  from  our  markets.  Today,  the  FIA  is 
pleased  to  offer  its  support  of  H.R.  2869.  Congressmen  English, 
Coleman,  and  Penny  have  introduced  a  bill  that  the  FCM  commu- 
nity believes  can  be  the  basis  for  reforms  that  will  usher  futures 
trading  into  the  2l8t  century. 

We  share  the  view  embodied  in  the  legislation  that  an  improved 
audit  treul  is  the  key  to  these  reforms.  An  audit  trail  that  can  be 
verified  and  that  accurately  reconstructs  the  sequence  of  trading  in 
a  timely  manner  has  been  the  goal  of  the  U.S.  futures  community 
for  the  entire  14  years  of  the  CTTC's  existence. 

In  1974,  the  House  Committee  dreifted  amendments  to  the  Com- 
modity Exchange  Act  which  established  a  system  of  self-regulation 
in  the  industry,  accompanied  by  active  oversight  from  the  newly- 
created  CFT€. 

The  premise  of  the  Commodity  Exchange  Act  is  that  the  ex- 
changes will  police  themselves  and  that  the  CFTC  will  review  the 
efficacy  of  these  efforts.  It  has  long  been  the  view  of  the  FIA  that 
without  a  verifiable  audit  trail,  which  accurately  accounts  for 
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lack  the  tools  necessary  to  assure  the  public  that  the  markets  are 
free  from  abuse. 

We  believe  that  until  a  verifiable  audit  trail  is  in  place  in  every 
exchange,  the  fiitures  industry,  the  CFTC  and  Congress  will  be  vul- 
nra^ble  to  public  criticism  and  skepticism — no  matter  how  well 
founded — about  the  integrity  of  the  system. 

The  exchanges  have  mside  tremendous  advances  in  their  audit 
trail  systems  during  the  last  few  years.  That  prcwress  can  be  seen 
both  in  the  CFTC  rule  enforcement  reviews— highlighted  in  a 
recent  report  by  your  subcommittee's  inquiry  team — as  well  as  in 
the  sustained  growth  in  the  volume  of  futures  trading.  But  there  is 
more  work  to  do  and  sometimes  the  last  mile  is  the  most  difficult 
to  traverse. 

The  bill  under  consideration  today  requires  that  the  ezchanges 
refine  their  audit  trfuls  within  a  stated  timefrsune.  Namely: 

First,  after  the  first  year  the  legislation  has  been  in  effect,  the 
exchanges  must  provide  the  verifiable  time  of  execution  for  every 
futures  or  options  trtide  in  increments  no  greater  than  1  minute. 

Second,  no  later  than  3  years  from  the  effective  date  of  the  legis- 
lation, the  exchanges  must  refine  their  audit  trails  to  increments  of 
no  more  than  30  seconds. 

The  FIA  strongly  supports  these  amendments  to  section  4(gX2)  of 
the  act.  We  believe,  however,  that  analyzing  the  audit  trail's  effica- 
cy and  exploring  new  technologies  to  achieve  optimal  enforcement 
of  the  CEA  are  paramount.  This  work  should  be  ongoing,  and  Con- 
gress should  request  yearly  reports  on  its  progress. 

The  subcommittee  has  indicated  its  belief  that  existing  audit 
trails  may  not  detect  some  trading  abuses  which  accompany  dual 
trading,  "rhe  subcommittee  therefore  proposes  limiting  a  broker's 
ability  to  engage  in  dual  trading,  except  in  special  situations, 
where  an  average  volume  of  over  7,000  contracts  are  traded  daily. 

The  only  exclusion  is  a  case  where  the  exchange's  audit  trail  can 
detect  any  and  all  insUmces  of  trading  violations  that  the  CFTC  de- 
termines to  be  attributable  to  dual  trading  and  where  ibe  audit 
trail  is  fully  verifiable. 

A  recent  Chicago  Mercantile  Exchange  special  committee  report 
addressed  the  public  confidence  issue  that  can  accompany  dual 
trading.  As  the  report  said: 


The  CME's  special  committee  suggested  that  that  exchange  ban 
dual  trading  and  in  mature,  liquid  markets.  This  would  affect 
about  80  percent  of  all  transactions  on  the  CME. 

Thus,  both  Congress  and  the  special  committee  recognized  that 
while  some  abuses  may  accompany  dual  trading,  banning  it  Eilto- 
gether  might  adversely  affect  the  less  liquid  markets.  The  FLA  has 
supported  this  view  with  the  important  caveat  that  whenever  dual 
trading  is  permitted,  there  should  be  adequate  safi^uards  in  place 
to  assure  the  integrity  of  the  market. 

An  audit  trail  system  that  detects  abuses  and  an  exchange  that 
wiU  take  actions  against  those  who  abuse  the  Efystem  provide  such 
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FIA,  therefore,  believes  that  H.R.  2869  correctly  links  dual  trad- 
ing to  a  more  precise  audit  trail.  It  is  difficult,  however,  for  Con- 
gress to  l^islate  whether  certain  markets  are  sufficiently  liquid  or 
whether  they  require  the  liquidity  afforded  by  dual  trading. 

We  would  prefer  that  the  Congress  direct  the  CFTC  to  review  the 
efficacy  of  such  a  liquidity  test.  In  particular,  we  believe  there  may 
be  other  considerations — quite  apart  from  how  many  contracts  are 
traded — in  determining  what  is  an  active,  liquid  market. 

Moreover,  since  the  CFTC  reviews  and  monitors  the  performance 
of  audit  trail  systems,  the  CFTC  is  in  a  better  position  to  assess  the 
system's  abUity  to  detect  and  prosecute  trading  abuses. 

The  CFTC  currently  is  addressing  dual  trading  and  has  promised 
a  report  on  economic  and  other  aspects  of  this  issue  by  September. 
We  respectfully  suggest  that  it  is  in  the  best  interests  of  the  cus- 
tomers Euid  the  industry  alike  to  take  a  closer  look  at  the  CFTCs 
study  and  others  underway  before  acting  definitively  on  dual  trad- 
ing. 

Telemarketing  fraud:  The  subcommittee's  inquiry  team  has  fo- 
cused on  the  solicitation  by  a  few  firms  of  persons  who,  unaware  of 
the  risks  of  trading  futures  and  options,  are  enticed  to  become  cus- 
tomers through  high-pressure  sales  solicitations. 

'Ilie  FIA  understands  the  subcommittee's  concern  with  high  pres- 
sure sales.  Individuals  and  firms  who  use  such  tactics  to  defraud 
customers  do  not  belong  in  the  industry,  and  we  support  all  efforts 
to  remove  them. 

We  are  concerned,  however,  that  the  Ifuiguage  the  subcommittee 
is  proposing  will  result  more  in  frustrating  the  legitimate  users  of 
futures  and  options  than  eliminating  the  bad  apples.  The  r^^ula- 
tors  will  have  difficulty  in  determining  what  is  a  first-time  sales  so- 
licitation and  the  firms  will  have  a  next  to  impossible  time  super- 
vising for  compliance  with  the  rules. 

Some  of  our  large  firms  have  told  us  that  they  would  be  forced  to 
hold  all  customer  trades  for  3  days  because  of  the  supervisory  prob- 
lems related  to  the  compliance. 

Unlike  others  in  the  financial  services  arena,  futures  profession- 
sia  already  provide  specific  risk  disclosure  statements  to  all  futures 
and  options  contracts,  and  these  disclosures  must  be  acknowledged 
and  returned  before  a  firm  may  take  a  customer's  trade. 

In  most  cases  this  procedure  £done  would  provide  customers  with 
a  cooling  off  period.  Futures  professionals  must  comply  with  NFA 
rules  which  regulate  the  content  of  all  communications  between 
NFA  members  and  the  public.  These  rules  specifically  prohibit 
fraud,  deceit  and  high  pressure  sales  practices. 

It  was  noted  during  the  recent  subcommittee  hearings  that  the 
NFA  program  to  answer  ads  and  pose  as  potential  customers  is  an 
effective  way  to  discover  high  pressure  tactics  and  take  action.  This 
system  should  be  enlaiged  and  adopted  by  other  industry  self-regu- 
latory organizations  that  have  a  responsibility  in  this  area,  and  we 
believe  it  will. 

The  FIA  would  like  to  continue  to  work  with  the  subcommittee 
to  help  it  fashion  a  proposal  that  is  appropriately  directed  at  those 
persons  and  firms  on  the  periphery  of  the  industry  who  are  using 
unlawful  sales  techniques. 


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Undercover  operations:  The  FIA  supports  the  l^al  application  of 
such  undercover  procedures.  On  governing  boards  and  disciplinary 
committees,  the  FIA  supports  the  requirement  that  disciplinary 
committees  be  composed  of  persons  who  are  of  a  different  trading 
status  from  the  respondent. 

This  requirement  appears  to  be  reasonable  with  the  additional 
proviso  that  an  exchange  be  able  to  put  nonexchange  members  on 
such  panels  in  special  cases. 

Whether  governing  boards  should  be  comprised  of  at  20  percent 
public  members  has  already  been  decided  by  several  exchanges 
which  have  opened  their  boards  to  have  more  outside  members. 
Our  only  caveat  is  that  public  members  should  be  expected  to  have 
a  working  knowledge  of  futures  markets. 

The  FIA  has  al»}  been  concerned  about  increasing  the  actual 
representation  of  nonfloor  interests  on  exchange  boards.  To  that 
end,  we  have  asked  the  Congress  and  the  CFTC  to  encourage  ex- 
changes to  have  broad  representation  on  their  boards. 

Registration  requirements:  It  is  in  everyone's  best  interests  to 
keep  persons  with  questionable  backgrounds  from  entering  the  in- 
dustry, and  we  support  strongly  what  is  in  the  legislation. 

Re^tration  of  floor  traders:  We  fully  support  its  enactment. 

With  respect  to  ethics,  we  fully  support  the  efforts  to  increase  in- 
dustry registrants'  knowledge  of  and  sensitivity  to  ethical  consider- 
ations involved  in  soliciting  and  handling  customers'  accounts  and 
trading  in  futures  markets,  whether  for  customers  or  for  proprie- 
tary accounts.  

Whether  the  "sunset"  of  the  CFTC  is  a  real  or  perceived  prob- 
lem, the  FIA  believes  Congress  should  take  every  step  necessary  to 
give  the  Commission  permanent  status.  We  support  the  appropria- 
tions figures  for  1990  and  1991  and  commend  the  subcommiUee's 
actions  to  eliminate  any  uncertainties  in  the  Commission's  future. 

The  CPTC  should  have  permanent  status,  similar  to  the  Securi- 
ties and  Exchange  CommissioD,  because  it  will  provide  for  stability 
and  continuity  of  r^ulatory  leadership. 

We  can  also  support  all  of  the  CFTC  proposals  as  discussed  by 
Chairman  Gramm  earlier.  I  would  add  th^  caveat  to  my  testimony. 
The  specific  language  of  all  of  H.R.  2869  warrants  closer  review 
than  was  possible  during  the  time  we  were  given  to  prepare  this 
testimony. 

Therefore,  we  ask  the  subcommittee's  permission  to  submit  addi- 
tional comments  and  suggestions  for  the  record  should  we  feel  that 
to  be  necessary. 

Thank  you  very  much  and  I  am  pleased  to  answer  any  questions. 

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sion of  the  hearing.] 

Mr.  EbjGLiSH.  lliank  you  very  much,  John.  I  appreciate  your  tes- 
timony and  let  me  say  also  that,  at  least  speaking  for  this  member, 
I  appreciate  the  attitude  of  the  FIA.  I  think  that  certainly  with 
your  testimony,  you  have  struck  the  right  note. 

It  is  a  question  of  whether  we  are  going  to  raise  the  standards 
and  how  we  can  best  obtain  those  standards.  I  appreciate  your  atti- 
tude and  FIA's  attitude  in  trying  to  help  this  subcommittee  come 
up  with  those  solutions. 


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I  think  the  real  question  that  we  come  down  to,  as  I  mentioned, 
is  the  question  of  how  we  can  best  obtain  the  standards.  The  issue 
with  r^EU'd  to  the  question  of  dual  training  and  discovering  abuses 
in  dual  training  is  exactly  how  high  those  sttmdards  can  be. 

Chairman  Gramm  mentioned  the  fact  that  she  did  not  feel  we 
c<Hild  meet  the  standards  that  fire  expected  in  this  legislation. 

Do  you  have  any  suggestions  or  thoughts  with  regeird  to  just 
what  la  likely  to  be  a  obtainable  goal  at  some  point  in  the  future? 

Mr.  Dahoard.  I  don't  know  that  we  are  in  the  beet  poeition  to 
assess  the  speciiics,  and  I  think  I  referred  to  the  fact  that  7,000 
may  not  be  just  the  absolute  perfect  number  for  determining 
whether  or  not  it  is  a  mature  contact. 

Perhaps  such  things  as  open  interest  and  the  types  of  contracts 
that  are  being  traded— whether  they  are  speculative  or  hedge  posi- 
tions—should have  some  bearing  onthat,  as  well.  Indeed  in  1974, 
you  created  the  expert  agency,  the  CFTC,  to  deal  with  these  kinds 
of  issues,  and  I  don't  know  that  they  have  ever  had  as  strong  a 
message  from  the  subcommittee  to  give  them  some  backbone  as 
tb^  have  received  today. 

Our  own  feeling  is  that  this  carrot  and  stick  approach  the  sub* 
oommittee  is  using  is  quite  appropriate,  and  it  is  less  important  to 
us  to  determine  just  exactly  what  a  specific  test  is  in  terms  of  an 
audit  trail  or  when  duetl  treiding  should  be  allowed  and  when  it 
should  not  be  allowed.  What  is  important  is  to  know  that  the  sub- 
committee is  going  to  continue  to  keep  pressure  on  the  CFTC  and 
the  exchanges,  and  in  fact  the  entire  industry,  to  make  sure  that 
Uie  needs  of  the  customer  and  the  end  user  and  indeed  those  that 
benefit  from  the  market  are  paramount  and  that  the  exchanges  are 
going  to  be  required  to  consider  what  is  in  the  best  interests  of  the 
customer. 

Mr.  English.  Well,  I  think  that  is  a  good  point.  I  think  we  would 
agree  with  you  with  the  question  of  where  that  level  should  be. 

I  suppose  it  is  like  a  drinking  age,  driver's  licenses,  taxes,  or  any- 
thing else.  There  is  an  arbitral?  point  in  which  a  number  is  estw- 
lished.  I  might  say  for  those  who  may  not  be  familiar  with  it,  the 
number  7,000  came  primarily  from  the  standpoint  that  some  people 
we  tallied  to  within  the  industry,  5,000  seemed  to  be  the  number 
that  most  people  agreed  you  reached  the  point  that  a  contract  was 
mature  and  liquid. 

We  simply  went  to  nearly  half  again  as  much  as  a  safety  factor. 
Now,  anyone  who  would  like  us  to  consider  reducing  that  down  to 
five  and  hit  tliat  number  that  everyone  told  us  about,  I  suppose  we 
could  reconsider  it. 

But  what  we  have  tried  to  do  instead  is  to  build  in  safety  factors, 
and  in  this  case,  neeirly  half  again  as  much  asasafety  factor,  we 
put  the  safety  factor  for  transition  to  give  the  CFTC,  so  that  we  do 
not  have  a  disruption  on  the  contract. 

We  have  included  a  provision  that  if  it  is  an  abberational  in- 
crease, it  goes  over  the  7,000,  it  should  not  be  included.  We  have 
also  included,  of  course,  the  fact  that  should  the  CFTC  find  in  cer- 
tain cases  Uiat  even  to  include,  I  might  say,  otherwise  threaten  the 
pidtlic  interest— which  I  mentioned  this  morning  is  pretty  broad 
language— gives  them  a  good  deal  of  flexibility  to  make  sure  that 
we  do  not  damage  those  contracts. 


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But  there  has  to  be  a  point  to  begin.  That  is  the  whole  point.  The 
bottom  line  is  there  has  to  be  a  starting  point.  I  think  that  we  have 
to  underscore  the  fact  that  we  still  have  a  good  deal  of  distance  to 
do. 

We  have  some  people  I  think,  unfortunately,  that  are  willing  to 
look  back.  They  look  and  say,  "Well,  look  how  far  we  have  come" 
instead  of  looking  at  how  far  do  we  have  yet  to  go,  and  we  are  look- 
ing forward  to  working  with  FIA  and  trying  to  make  sure  that  we 
establish  goals  that  may  just  barely  be  on  the  outer  reach  of  the 
industry,  and  we  are  going  to  prod  and  push,  not  only  the  industry, 
but  if  we  have  to,  we  are  going  to  prod  and  push  the  CfTC  if  they 
require  us  to,  to  make  sure  that  they  help  us  reach  that  point. 

Again,  I  just  want  to  thank  you  for  your  testimony  and  I  appreci- 
ate your  suggestions. 

Mr.  Damgabd.  We  are  plefised  to  be  here.  We  really  support  the 
thrust  of  the  legislation.  We  believe  the  audit  trail  is  more  impor- 
tant than  the  dual  trading  provisions. 

We  think  the  key  is  really  the  Utopian  perfect  audit  trail.  Maybe 
that  is  unreachable,  but  I  do  not  think  we  should  stop  trying  to 
reach  it  and  I  think  that  the  image  of  impropriety  in  our  markets 
is  probably  as  damaging  as  impropriety  itself. 

In  the  exchanges'  defense,  I  believe  that  they  tire  doing  an  infi- 
nitely better  job  than  they  have  been  doing  in  the  past,  and  I  think 
that  computerized  trade  reconstruction  in  Chicago  and  the  empha- 
sis that  the  New  York  exchanges  have  put  on  audit  trail  in  the  last 
few  ye£u^  have  made  it  less  likely  for  people  to  be  able  to  cheat 
and  get  away  with  it. 

As  a  result,  I  think  customers  are  getting  a  better  deal  than  ever 
before,  but  it  is  never  going  to  be  good  enough  as  long  as  there  is  a 
belief  out  there  that  there  is  something  wrong. 

I  think  I  emphasized  that  volume  is  growing  at  a  very,  very  fast 
rate  in  our  markets.  Somebody  is  doing  something  well  and  I  think 
we  ought  to  tell  the  exchanges  that  they  are  doing  some  thin^ 
very  well. 

But  that  does  not  mean  that  we  can  let  up,  and  do  we  have  spe- 
ciiic  answers  about  whether  or  not  dual  trading  should  be  allow^ 
here  or  there,  I  think  probably  the  exchanges  should  be  heard  on 
that  subject  louder  than  we  do,  but  we  think  thq  carrot  and  stick 


ajiproach  that  you  are  using  is  something  that,  in  the  long  run, 
will  be  very,  veiy  good  for  tl     '    ' 
Mr.  English.  Thank  you. 


B  very,  veiy  good  for  the  int^rity  of  our  markets. 


Mr.  Coleman. 

Mr.  Coleman.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman. 

I  too  would  like  to  commend  you,  John,  and  your  association  for 
the  constructive  comments  that  you  have  made  on  the  record 
today.  I,  in  looking  through  your  testimony  really  do  not  see  that 
you  have  any  problems  with  the  bill  except  for  a  couple  of  caveats 
that  you  have  already  mentioned. 

Let  me  say  that  there  has  been  some  suggestion  that  what  this 
bill  represents  is  somehow  going  to  move  onshore  much  of  the  fu- 
tures industry  from  this  country.  I  would  like  to  have  you  comment 
on  that  possibility,  probability,  and  mention  was  made  about  other 
exchanges  in  the  world  and  what  rules  they  have,  and  so  on,  and  so 
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It  seems  to  me  that  if  we  can  restore  the  reputations  that  have 
been  somewhat  smudged  here  in  the  press  and  also  to  provide  total 
confidence  in  the  exchanges  emd  the  transactions  being  accurate,  it 
seems  to  me  people  would  want  to  flock  to  an  institution  that  has 
these  types  of  safeguards. 

I  would  like  to  have  you  comment  on  this. 

Mr.  Damgard.  Well,  I  think  you  are  absolutely  right.  I  mean  I 
think  the  way  to  run  the  markets  offshore,  frankly,  is  to  destroy 
their  reputation  for  integrity. 

I  am  not  saying  that  they  are  in  the  least  bit  destroyed  now,  and 
I  think  we  have  to  be  very,  very  watchful  of  foreign  competition.  I 
think  the  offshore  market  s  biggest  opportunity  would  be  if ,  in  fact, 
our  markets  received  a  black  eye  ana  they  would  be  able  to  pros- 
per. 

I  also  think  that  we  are  the  established  marketplace;  the  rest  of 
the  world  comes  to  the  U.S.  futures  markets  to  do  their  risk  shift- 
ing. Our  markets  are  the  envy  of  the  world.  Not  surprisingly,  other 
countries  have  decided  that  if  they  are  financial  centers,  they  will 
have  futures  markets,  as  well. 

We  have  seen  a  lot  of  activity  in  Japan  and  London  in  the  last 
few  years.  These  two  centers  tire  particularly  interested  in  develop- 
ing risk-shifting  markets  to  complement  their  cash  markets. 

I  think  that  it  is  probably  reasonable  to  assume  that  as  the  Japa- 
nese markets  mature  and  have  liquidity,  that  the  Japanese  will  use 
the  Japanese  futures  markets  to  some  degree,  instead  of  the  United 
States  markets. 

The  Japanese  Banking  Federation  has  gotten  together  and 
formed  a  futures  msirket  in  currencies,  and  that  market  will  be  op- 
erating during  daylight  hours  in  Japan.  The  Japanese  exchange 
probably  will  have  some  effect  on  the  business  of  the  Chicago  Mer- 
cantile IMM.  I  think  it  was  in  response  to  that,  that  the  Chicago 
Mercantile  Exchange,  in  conjunction  with  Reuters,  came  up  with 
the  GIX>BEX  idea,  a  24-hour  trading  system. 

Growth  in  absolute  terms  remains  much  greater  in  U.S.  markets 
than  it  does  in  the  intemationfil  meu'kets.  However,  as  they  come 
on-stream,  I  suspect  these  new  international  markets  will  be  more 
attractive  to  people  in  their  time  zones. 

Mr.  Coleman.  Thank  you. 

Mr.  English.  Mr.  Combest. 

Mr.  Combest.  John,  in  your  testimony  where  you  mentioned 
about  midway  down  on  the  second  page,  where  you  talk  about  the 
Chicago  Mercantile  Exchange  special  committee  report  and  that 
th^  suggested  dual  trading  be  banned  in  mature,  liquid  markets. 

Granted  the  fact  that  you  do  not  know  where  the  right  level  is,  if 
it  is  7,000,  5,000,  or  whatever  the  case  may  be,  how  do  we  deter- 
mine what  that  right  number  is? 

Mr.  Damgard.  I  am  proposing,  Mr.  Congressman,  that  maybe 
that  is  something  that  t^  CFTC  on  an  ongoing  basis,  using  more 
than  just  strictly  a  volume  test,  might  be  in  a  better  position  to 
judge. 

I  think  what  this  committee  has  done  today,  and  what  it  appears 
it  will  continue  to  do,  is  give  the  CFTC  a  lot  more  courage  to  act  in 
these  areas  than  it  has  ever  had  before. 


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I  am  not  saying  that  there  is  anything  wrong  with  the  7,000 
figure.  I  am  simply  saying  that  I  do  not  know.  In  the  limited  time  I 
have  had  to  discuss  that  figure  with  a  cross-section  of  my  board  of 
directors,  there  was  no  unanimity — as  there  hardly  ever  is  in  a 
membership  organization — that  one  figure  is  a  magic  figure. 

So,  for  that  reason,  I  am  unable  to  sit  here  before  you  and  tell 
you  that  I  know  precisely  the  right  number.  More  importantly,  we 
are  endorsing  the  emphasis  on  the  audit  trail  and  the  legislation  in 
that  area. 

That  is  not  to  say  that  maybe  3  years  from  now,  the  people  that 
have  had  to  live  by  the  30-second  requirement  can  not  come  back 
here  and  to  the  CFTC  and  make  a  strong  case  that  the  require- 
ment is  too  rigid  and  should  be  amended. 

But  I  do  thmk  that  you  are  doing  the  right  thing  by  holding  the 
exchange's  feet  to  the  fire  on  audit  trail  and  dual  trading,  because 
I  think  that  is  going  to  eliminate  the  customer  abuses. 

Mr.  CoMBEST.  From  the  penalty  standpoint,  being  in  the  business 
you  are  in  and  you  are  representing  the  industry,  would  you  rec- 
ommend that  the  penalty  be  a  set  penalty  for  a  certain  type  of 
trading  abuses,  or  do  you  believe  that  should  be  left  up  to  me  ex- 
change that  would  be  policing  the  trading? 

Mr.  Damgard.  I  think  the  penalty  should  he  a  strong  deterrence. 

Mr.  CoMBEST.  I  agree. 

Mr.  Damgard.  With  regard  to  specific  levels,  I  frankly  am  not 
very  knowledgeable  about  what  those  levels  are  right  now.  Howev- 
er, I  think  the  penedties  should  be  quite  painful  and  I  think  some- 
times those  penalties  should  be  banishment  from  the  industry,  and 
let  the  shoe  fall  wherever  it  may  on  that. 

The  last  thing  that  this  industry  needs  are  the  few  people,  the 
kind  of  cling  to  the  periphery  of  the  markets,  that  bring  us  this 
bad  name. 

The  futures  industry  is  Em  extremely  important  industry  that 
touches  every  facet  of  economic  life.  Let  these  guys  who  are  bring- 
ing UB  the  bad  reputation  go  back  to  selling  aluminum  siding. 

Mr.  CoMBEST.  I  agree.  I  guess  the  question  is,  and  I  think,  hope- 
fully, the  industry  rect^nizes  that  it  is  to  their  best  interest  that  a 
lot  of  the  problems  and  perceptions,  as  you  have  indicated,  the  per- 
ception can  be  more  significant  than  the  truth,  whatever  the  public 
perceives,  but  that  the  perceptions  are  bad  and  can  have  tremen- 
dously negative  impacts. 

I  think  we  should  make  it  very  painful,  too,  literally,  very  pain- 
ful for  individuals  to  he  involved  in  illegal  trading.  I  guess  the 
question  I  have — and  when  I  ask  this  of  the  exchanges  as  we  go 
through  these  hearings  over  the  next  several  days — is:  Should  we 
legislate  that  penalty  or  should  we  leave  that  up  to  the  CFTC,  or 
should  we  leave  it  up  to  the  exchange  that  basicedly  regulates  and 
determines  the  penalty? 

But  I  think  the  more  severe,  the  more  harsh,  the  more  of  a  deter- 
rent there  is  in  the  penalty  phase,  the  more  the  perception  will  be 
of  confidence  in  the  market.  Off  the  top  of  my  head,  I  would  say 
that  a  good,  strong  message  in  the  report  language  would  alert  the 
CFTC  and  the  NFA  and  indeed  the  exchanges  themselves  that  the 
committee  expects  to  see  these  penalties  be  quite  severe. 


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I  think  they  ahould  be  fitting  with  the  crime.  I  mean  I  don't 
think  the  penalties  for  the  equivalent  for  a  parking  ticket  should 
be  as  strong  as  the  penalties  for  cheating  a  customer  and  abusing 
the  system.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Cheiirman. 

Mr.  English.  Ms.  Long. 

Ms.  Long.  No  questions,  Mr.  Chairman. 

Mr,  English.  Mr.  Gunderson. 

Mr.  Gunderson.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman. 

Two  questions.  First  of  all,  as  I  reviewed  your  statement,  I  weis 
struck  by  the  ffict  that  you  seemed  to  support  almost  every  recom- 
mendation. 

Mr.  Damgard.  Except  the  telemarketing.  We  are  not  so  keen 
about  that. 

Mr.  Gunderson.  Enforcement,  that  kind  of  thing,  I  am  not  criti- 
cal of  that.  I  guess  I  would  ask  more  of  a  philosophical  question 
from  your  perspective. 

To  what  degree  do  you  feel  in-house  exchange  governance  en- 
forcement mechanisms  working  and  what  degree  do  we  try  to 
define  that  balance,  CFTC  regulation  and  exchange  in-house  gov- 
ernance? It  seems  to  me  that  that  is  a  philosophical  question  you 
have  to  face  in  light  of  inquiries. 

Mr.  Damgard.  Well,  the  Futures  Industry  Association  obviously 
represents  a  broad  cross-section  of  all  elements  of  the  industry,  but 
we  have  our  roots  in  the  brokerage  community  with  the  Shearsons, 
the  Merrills,  and  the  Dean  Witters,  and  large  Chicago  houses  that 
Etre  not  such  household  names  like  Refco,  Stottler,  and  Gelderman. 
There  have  been  concerns  expressed  from  time  to  time  that  the 
governance  of  the  exchange  does  not  always  take  into  consideration 
the  views  of  those  that  feel  that  they  are  the  links  with  the  outside 
world. 

In  other  words,  we  believe  we  are  the  link  to  the  customer  and 
we  can  best  represent  the  public's  interest  in  how  these  markets 
work.  The  exchanges  are  indeed  owned  by  the  seatholders,  and  the 
FCM  community  is  far  outnumbered  by  the  local  floor  trader  in 
terms  of  owning  seats.  From  that  standpoint,  the  FCM's  voice  is  a 
minority,  and  while  that  has  been  frustrating  in  the  past,  I  would 
not  say  we  have  not  seen  some  progress. 

I  believe  that  that  progress  will  continue  and  I  believe  with  hear- 
ings like  this,  and  with  the  interest  of  this  subcommittee,  it  will 
probably  continue  at  a  little  faster  rate  than  it  otherwise  might 
have. 

I  would  at  this  point  not  be  so  inclined  as  suggest  that  we  legis- 
late in  this  area,  because  I  think  that  the  CFTC,  as  the  overseer, 
has  a  strong  idea  of  the  subcommittee's  goals  in  this  area. 

Mr.  Gunderson.  One  of  the  areas  that  I  have  been  concerned 
with  is  developing  policy  area,  the  whole  area  of  international  fu- 
tures, development  of  foreign  futures  as  competition.  How  do  we 
strike  a  balance  in  our  regulations  that  do  not  drive  people  on  to 
foreign  exchai^es,  and  yet  at  the  same  time,  try  to  preserve  integ- 
rity? 

I  Eun  a  little  struck  b^  Chairmfm  Gramm's  proposal  that  they 
wemt  authority  to  investigate  and  regulate  foreign.  I  do  not  know, 
it  seems  to  be  a  bit  of  a  unique  propcsal,  but  I  see  that  you  support 
the  whole  concept  of  cooperative  enforcement  efforts. 


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I  would  like  you  to  elaborate  a  little  as  to  what  you  see  that  we 
can  rationally  do  in  this  area. 

Mr.  Damgard.  Well,  the  theory  of  course  is  to  make  certain  that 
customers  outside  the  United  States  are  not  subject  to  the  same 
standards  as  customers  within  the  United  States.  We  do  not  want 
to  disadvanteige  U.S.  customers  on  U.S.  markets. 

By  the  other  hand,  I  do  not  think  it  is  in  the  best  interests  of 
futures  trading  worldwide  for  pockets  of  liberian  futures  trading 
crop  up  and  business  flows  to  the  mEU*ketpleice  that  has  the  least 
regulation.  Ultimately,  that  will  cause  the  futures  industry  great 
embarrassment  and  a  bleick  eye. 

Futures  trading  has  led  the  way  in  terms  of  being  a  24-hour 
global  business  perhaps  because  products  like  crude  oil  and  gold 
have  worldwide  appeal,  whereas,  100  shares  of  a  specific  stock  like 
PEPCO  may  have  limited  appeeil. 

I  think  that  foreign  markets  are  bound  to  grow  and  we  ought  not 
to  worry  about  that  growth.  We  ought  to  spend  more  time  worry- 
ing about  our  own  markets  and  encourage  regulators  to  come  up 
with  some  sort  of  worldwide  r^ulatory  parity. 

To  that  end,  I  think  that  the  CFTC  engages  in  twice  a  year  meet- 
ings with  their  fellow  regulators  worldwide. 

Mr.  GuNDBBSON.  Thank  you. 

Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman. 

Mr.  English.  Thank  you  very  much,  Mr.  Gunderson. 

John,  we  appreciate  your  testimony.  Thank  you  very  much.  We 
are  looking  forward  to  working  with  you. 

Mr.  Damgakd.  Thank  you  very  much,  Mr.  Chairman. 

Mr.  English.  Our  next  witness  is  Mr.  Frank  Beurskens  who  is 
with  the  National  Grain  and  Feed  Association  here  in  Wetshington. 

Mr.  Beurskens,  we  want  to  welcome  you  here  to  the  subcommit- 
tee today. 

STATEMENT  OF  FRANK  BEURSKENS  ON  BEHALF  OF  THE 
NATIONAL  GRAIN  AND  FEED  ASSOCIATION 

Mr.  Beurskens.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman. 

Mr.  Chairman  and  members  of  the  subcommittee,  my  name  is 
Frank  Beurskens,  and  I  Eun  president  of  Advance  Trading,  Inc.,  in 
Bloomington,  Illinois. 

My  compemy  works  with  both  cooperative  and  private  country 
grain  elevators  and  directly  with  farmers,  aa  well  as  numerous 
small  conamercial  hedgers  in  the  marketplace. 

I  am  presenting  this  statement  today  on  behalf  of  the  National 
Grain  and  Feed  Association.  The  membership  of  the  National 
Grain  and  Feed  Association  encompasses  more  than  1,300  compa- 
nies representing  some  5,000  facilities  that  handle  and  merchan- 
dise about  two-thirds  of  all  U.S.  grain  and  oilseeds. 

Members  of  the  National  Grain  and  Feed  Association  rely  heavi- 
ly upon  the  futures  markets  to  hedge  purchases  and  seiles  of  grain 
and/or  grain  products.  Continuation  of  a  viable  futures  market  is 
critical  to  a  competitive  and  efficient  marketplace  for  agriculture. 

Futures  markets  provide  efficiency  and  risk  transferral  mecha- 
nisms necessary  to  offer  marketing  services  at  the  lowest  possible 
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of  agricultural  commodities.  Futures  markets  are  truly  the  comer- 
stone  of  an  efficient  meirketplace. 

This  year,  1989,  marks  the  15th  anniversary  of  the  Commodity 
Futures  Tradii^CommiBaion  as  an  independent  body  regulatine  fu- 
tures treiding.  We  continue  to  believe  that  all  futures  markets 
should  be  regulated  by  an  independent  r^ulatory  body. 

We  support  an  open-ended  reauthorization,  with  no  specific  sun- 
setting  of  the  CTTC.  CTTC,  in  our  view,  has  earned  the  right  to 
become  a  permanent  Federal  agency,  eind  absent  the  need  to 
embark  on  the  reauthorization  process  every  3  or  4  years,  should 
be  able  to  devote  more  of  its  resources  to  actual  market  surveil- 
lance and  enforcement  activities  for  which  it  was  intended. 

WhUe  not  under  active  consideration,  the  issue  of  margin  setting 
authority  being  vested  in  one  or  more  Government  agencies  re- 
mains a  primary  concern  for  our  industry.  There  seems  to  be  con- 
tinuing confusion  about  futures  market  margins  that  cause  some  to 
believe  that  there  is  a  similarity  between  margins  on  securities  and 
margins  on  futures. 

The  function  of  the  futures  market  is  not  to  transfer  title,  but 
rather  to  transfer  price  risk.  Futures  margins  act  much  as  a  per- 
formance bond,  and  depending  upon  price  volatility  and  risk  in  any 
^ven  market,  is  subject  to  change,  and  in  our  judgment,  only  the 
individual  exchanges  have  the  capability  to  deal  with  the  logistical 
realities  of  margin  setting-responsibility. 

Notwithstfmding  the  current  investigations  of  some  exchange  ac- 
tivity, from  our  perspective  as  commercial  hedgers  in  the  market- 
place, we  believe  that  the  commodity  markets  are  generally  func- 
tioning very  efficiently  under  the  current  regulatory  structure. 

We  believe  that  an  overreaction  in  the  name  of  regulation  could 
well  do  considerable  damage  to  efficiently  running  meu*kets.  At  the 
same  time  adequate  self-r^ulation  by  exchanges,  self-regulatory 
oreanizations  and  the  CFTC  must  be  taken  very  seriously  if  the 
seu-r^ulatory  structure  is  to  be  maintained  with  confidence. 

A  principal  issue  of  these  hearings  and  of  H.R.  2869  is  how  best 
to  r^ulate  the  markets  to  minimize  potential  abuse  of  dual  trading 
practices.  First,  it  is  vital  that  Congress  understand  that  the  prac- 
tice of  dual  trading  is^very  necessary  in  mtmy  meu-kets  to  maintain 
market  liquidity. 

Adequate  liquidity  is  important  to  all  hedgers  as  the  cost  of  plac- 
ing hedges  in  the  market  can  go  up  tremendously  in  a  thin,  lightly 
traded  market.  Clearly,  however,  the  use  of  dual  trading  can  be 
abused,  and  close  surveillance  by  the  CFTC  and  exchanges  is  neces- 
sary- 

H.R.  2869  would  ban  dual  trading  in  markets  whose  daily  volume 
exceeds  7,000  contracts.  However,  as  we  understand,  there  would 
be  a  number  of  exceptions  to  this  rule. 

While  this  section  of  the  bill  is  well-intentioned,  and  correctly 
links  the  potential  for  dual  trading  abuse  with  the  need  for  im- 
proved audit  trails,  we  believe  the  provision  would  create  a  number 
of  problems. 

First,  it  is  very  difficult  to  determine  a  single  volume,  whether 
that  is  7,000  contracts  traded  daily,  or  some  other  figure  that  de- 
fines a  liquid  market,  that  does  not  need  the  flexibility  of  dual 
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Second,  allowing  customers  to  give  written  authorization  to  bro- 
kers to  override  the  dual  trading  ban  would  lead  to  the  question  of 
just  who  is  the  customer.  Is  the  customer,  for  instance,  the  futures 
commissioner  merchant  sending  order  to  a  broker  on  behalf  of  a 
client,  or  the  introducing  broker  sending  order  to  a  futures  clearing 
merchant,  or  would  every  public  customer  have  to  authorize  a  par- 
ticulEU-  floor  broker  to  be  able  to  dual  trade? 

Third,  but  most  importantly,  the  eiccuracy  of  the  audit  trail  is 
parEunount  to  improving  exchange  surveillance  and  should  be  pur- 
sued vigorously,  but  technological  feasibility  and  the  cost  of  100 
percent  accuracy  have  to  be  reviewed. 

We  believe  that  dual  trading  is  an  important  part  of  marketplace 
efficiency  and  Congress  should  endeavor  to  avoid  an  outright  ban 
of  dual  trading  in  any  futures  market,  if  at  all  possible. 

WMle  we  agree  with  the  intentions  of  Congress  to  guEU-d  ageiinst 
abuse  of  dual  trading,  we  believe  it  is  very  d^cult  to  set  such  spe- 
cific guidelines  applicable  to  all  markets,  without  creating  some 
8ul»tantial  adjustment  difficulties  in  certain  markets. 

We  would  support  an  approach  giving  CFTC  specific  legislative 
objectives  and  authorizing  CBTX^  to  write  specific  rules  with  strin- 
gent penalties  for  noncompliance.  We  believe  this  approach  would 
provide  adequate  public  protection  and  preserve  the  market  liquidi- 
ty necessary  for  market  efficiency  and  viability. 

Other  items  addressed  by  H.R.  2869  include  a  specific  restriction 
on  trading  between  members  of  broker  associations.  Artificial  re- 
strictions on  trading  volumes  place  an  additioned  constraint  on  effi- 
cient marketplace  performance.  Thus,  if  there  is  a  means  of  equiva- 
lent protection  through  better  audit  trails  or  some  other  mecha- 
nism that  does  not  add  another  market  restriction,  it  would  be 
deemed  as  more  desirable. 

We  support  the  provisions  in  H.R.  2869  that  would  prohibit  the 
participation  on  governing  boards  and  disciplinary  panels  by  those 
members  found  guilty  of  major  rule  infractions. 

Our  association  also  welcomes  the  expansion  of  representation  of 
nonfloor  membership  on  governing  boards  of  exchanges. 

Mr.  Chairman,  we  fully  support  other  provisions  of  H.R  2869  in- 
tended to  encourage  a  high  level  of  ethics  and  integrity  in  the  func- 
tion of  the  futures  market. 

We  have  appreciated  this  opportunity  to  present  our  views  on 
CPTC  reauthorization,  and  I  would  be  happy  to  respond  to  any 
questions  the  subcommittee  may  have. 

[The  prepared  statement  of  Mr.  Beurskens  appears  at  the  conclu- 
sion of  the  hearing.] 

Mr.  English.  Mr.  Beurskens,  I  appreciate  it  very  much.  The 
question  was  Eisked  earlier — I  thought  Mr.  Nagle  might  be  here  be- 
cause this  is  the  question  he  raised,  and  I  want  to  raise  it  with 
you — as  a  result  of  the  actions  taken  last  week  on  the  Board  of 
Trade,  do  you  have  any  idea  of  what  the  real  effect  on  cash  prices 
W£i8  to  farmers,  what  kind  of  a  loss  farmers  may  have  suffered? 

Mr.  Beurskens.  It  is  difficult  to  separate  the  impact  of  weather 
on  price.  That  has  been  a  very  volatile  factor  reflected  in  yester- 
day s  meu-ket  of  being  limit  down. 

But  if  we  look  at  several  different  markets  from  the  period  of 
last  Tuesday,  the  day  before  the  announcement  by  the  Board  of 


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Trade,  and  compare  those  to  the  closing  prices  Friday,  it  should 
give  us  an  indication  as  to  what  the  final  impact  would  have  been 
to  a  producer. 

If  we  look  at  the  export  market,  which  is  as  many  articles  have 
mentioned,  a  mfgor  factor  that  was  involved  in  this  debate,  the 
value  of  soybeans  delivered  to  the  Gulf  on  Tuesday,  July  11,  was 
$7.24^  cents  a  bushel.  That  was  the  day  before  the  announcement. 

On  Friday,  at  the  close,  July  14,  the  price  of  soybeans  delivered 
to  the  Gulf  was  $7.24V4  cents,  one-quiu-ter  of  the  penny  a  bushel 
less  IViday  them  the  day  before  the  announcement  was  made. 

If  we  look  at  Peoria,  Illinois,  the  price  for  beans  delivered  to  a 
terminal,  to  a  riverhouse  in  Peoria,  on  the  Tuesday  before  the  an- 
nouncement was  $7.03  a  bushel,  and  the  price  of  beans  Friday  was 
$7.02W,  three-quarters  of  1  cent  less. 

If  we  look  at  Decatur,  Illinois,  which  is  a  primary  processor 
market,  the  bid  to  a  farmer  on  Tuesday  before  the  announcement 
was  $7.23  a  bushel.  On  Friday,  at  the  close,  that  price  was  $7.06^ 
cents  a  bushel,  17  cents  less. 

If  we  were  looking  at  the  new  crop  prices  during  this  same 
period,  the  new  crop  price  for  soybetms  on  Friday  was  actually  7Vi 
cents  a  bushel  higher  than  it  was  the  day  before  the  Board  of 
Trade  made  that  decision. 

The  realities  are  in  the  pricing.  No.  1,  the  trade  has  known,  as 
was  mentioned  earlier,  not  just  since  last  May,  but  this  situation 
has  existed  in  the  soybean  market  for  over  1  year,  and  all  of  the 
professionals  in  the  market — and  one  would  have  to  be  pretty 
absent  of  news  not  to  realize  that  there  were  fewer  deliverable 
stocks  than  there  were  positions,  open  interest  in  the  market- 
place — to  understand  that  there  really  was  not  business  for  any- 
body particularly  a  farmer  to  have  any  futures  position  in  a  July 
contract. 

Our  firm,  representing  country  elevators  and  producers,  had  one, 
5,000-busbel  contract  long  in  the  July  contract  Wednesday  morn- 
ing, and  I  think  that  weis  indicative  of  any  professional  that  has 
been  in  the  marketplace.  There  was  no  reason  to  be  in  the  July  fu- 
tures contract  for  a  novice  particularly. 

So,  from  a  cash  bid  standpoint,  one  would  really  have  to  question 
the  articles  that  have  been  in  the  Post  and  the  Journal  as  to  just 
where  did  these  massive  price  losses  occur.  I  do  not  see  them  in  the 
bids  that  are  reflected  from  what  I  have  just  quoted  you. 

Mr.  English.  Mr.  Coleman  over  here  was  just  reading  in  the 
newspaper  there  is  a  26-cent  difference. 

Mr.  Beurskens.  What  market,  what  location? 

Mr.  ENGLISH.  This  was  on  the  Board  of  Trade. 

Mr.  Beurskens.  What  day? 

Mr.  Engush.  Today's  paper  is  what  he  has. 

Mr.  Beurskens.  There  was  a  weather  forecast  Friday  that  had  a 
three-quarters  to  l!i4-inch  of  rain  in  the  entire  grain  belt. 

Mr.  English.  How  many  cents  does  that  eidd  or  take  away? 

Mr.  Beurskens.  From  what  I  gathered  yesterday,  the  market 
was  down  30  cents  in  beans  and  10  cents  on  com,  the  maximum 
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Mr.  English.  So,  are  you  telling  ub  that  basically  you  cannot  say 
how  much  farmers  lost  or  what  kind  of  this  impact  that  this  had 
on  us,  is  that  basically  what  you  are  telling  me? 

Mr.  Beurskens.  Yes. 

Mr.  English.  So,  nobody  can  tell,  you  do  not  know  whether  it  is 
weather,  you  do  not  know  whether  it  is  this  action? 

Mr.  Beubskens.  The  only  way  an  individued  could  mfike  a  state- 
ment that  a  producer  lost  money  is  if  he  sold  beans  Wednesday 
after  the  announcement  and  liquidated  everything  he  owned,  then 
he  honestly  could  say  that  he  lost  money. 

If  he  still  owns  the  beans  that  he  owned  last  Tuesday,  he  may 
have  lost  money,  but  it  has  been  a  result  of  the  weather,  not  as  a 
result  of  any  move  by  the  Chicago  Board  of  Trade. 

Mr.  English.  So,  you  are  telling  me  that  in  effect,  when  the 
price  falls  aa  a  result  of  action,  that  it  has  no  impact  on  farmers? 

Mr.  Beurskens.  No  more  impact  than  we  have  had  ever  since 
the  100  years  the  Board  of  Trade  heis  been  in  existence. 

Mr.  English.  I  guess  that  is  where  a  lot  of  farmers  would  say  it 
has  had  one  heck  of  a  lot  of  impact.  I  have  had  a  lot  of  my  farmers 
tell  me  that. 

It  is  a  price-setting  mechemism,  is  it  not? 

Mr.  Beurskens.  Yes,  it  is. 

Mr.  English.  So,  if  it  is  setting  the  price,  and  something  has  an 
impact  on  it,  how  does  that  not  have  an  impact  on  fEU*mer8? 

Mr.  Beueskens.  The  final  decisionmaking  still  lies  in  the  farm- 
ers' hands.  The  price  of  soybeans  at  fall  was  $9  a  bushel  in  the 
Midwest,  yet  the  majority  of  all  producers  in  the  United  States  felt 
that  that  was  not  an  adequate  price  and  consequently  held  on  to 
their  soybeans. 

It  is  a  function  of  the  market  to  determine  what  that  price 
should  be,  and  it  appears  as  if  it  has  done  a  very  accurate  job. 

Mr.  English.  That  is  true  up  to  a  point.  If,  in  fact,  the  price  of 
my  product  was  higher  1  week  ago  than  it  is  today,  and  someone 
artincially  took  an  action  that  drove  that  price  down,  an  action 
which  I  was  not  a  part  of  and  not  a  participemt  in,  I  have  lost,  did  I 
not? 

I  mean  there  is  no  way  that  I  can  get  away  irom  the  fact  that 
someone,  through  an  arbitrary  decision,  cost  me  money. 

Mr.  Beurskens.  If  the  farmer  was  located  anywhere  tributary  to 
the  inland  waterway  system,  his  bid  was  exactly  the  same  Friday 
afternoon  as  it  was  Tu^ay. 

Mr.  English.  Well,  I  am  sure  a  lot  of  farmers  are  going  to  take 
comfort  in  that  out  there,  that  they  did  not  lose  anything.  I  think 
they  are  going  to  strongly  disagree  with  you. 

I  imagine  you  will  probably  get  a  little  mail  on  that  if  the  press 
report  says  that  you  take  that  position,  because  I  think  that  any- 
time that  the  market  price  goes  down,  they  figure  that  they  loae 
money,  and  it  is  hard  for  me,  quite  frankly,  not  to  agree  with  them. 
I  think  they  do,  too. 

Mr.  Beurskens.  My  point  for  bringing  up  the  price  changes  or 
lack  thereof  is  to  emphasize  the  fact  that  the  information  that  has 
been  in  the  newspapers  concerning  the  activity  of  last  week  is  by 
no  means  enough  information  for  emy  of  us  to  formulate  an  opinion 
one  way  or  the  other  until  we  see  uie  expiration  of  the  July  con- 


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tract  this  Thursday  and  untU  the  CFTC  and  the  Chicago  Board  of 
Trade  can  make  public  exactly  what  did  happen  last  weelt. 

I  think  until  we  see  that  information,  the  information  in  newspa- 
pers really  should  not  be  looked  at  aa  an  accurate  source  of  infor- 
mation. 

Mr.  Engush.  Mr.  Colemfin. 

Mr.  CoLBMAN.  1  am  a  little  bit  surprised  that  the  chief  users  of 
the  exchanges  would  not  want  to  see  a  comprehensive  audit  trail 
established  as  soon  as  possible  to  assure  the  accuracy  of  your 
trades  being  transacted  in  an  atmosphere 

Mr.  Beurskens.  We  would  like  to  see  the  audit  trail  as  soon  as 
possible. 

Mr.  Coleman.  But  I  gather  from  your  testimony  you  kind  of 
wafEle  a  little  bit  on  that  as  we  go  through  here.  I  guess  it  is  just 
time,  I  think  Glenn  mentioned  it  earlier,  15  years  we  have  looked 
at  this  issue,  and  pursued  it,  and  we  Eire  trying  to  get  it  established 
at  a  higher  percentile  and  a  faster  pace  I  think  it  would  help  every- 
body. 

Let  me  just  say,  in  your  question  about  authorizing  brokers  to  go 
ahead  and  dual  trade,  that  it  is  our  intent,  at  least  the  chfiirman 
and  my  own,  is  that  we  would  have  every  public  customer  author- 
ize a  broker  in  order  to  dual  trade. 

You  raise  that  £is  a  question,  and  I  would  want  the  record  to 
show  that  is  our  intent.  That  may  or  may  not,  in  your  mind,  be  the 
correct  response,  but  that  is  our  intent  for  the  record. 

t  thank  you  for  your  testimony. 

Mr.  English.  Mr.  Combest. 

Mr.  Combest.  I  have  no  questions. 

Mr.  English.  Ms.  Long. 

Ms.  Long.  Yes,  Mr.  Chairman. 

I  would  like  you  to  provide  some  kind  of  estimate  of  the  amount 
of  liquidity  that  is  provided  by  dual  trading,  how  much  you  believe 
it  enhances  the  markets. 

Mr.  Beubskens.  All  I  could  respond  is  as  a  participant  in  the 
market  what  I  sense,  because  I  do  not  have  the  numbers  to  support 
what  I  sense. 

One  of  the  most  common  transactions  that  a  country  elevator 
would  enter  into  in  the  marketplace  is  the  concept  known  as 
spreading,  where  we  will  buy  one  month  and  sell  another  month  at 
the  same  instant. 

Oftentimes,  particularly  with  the  advent  of  the  elimination  of 
Government  storage  programs.  Commodity  Credit  pn^ams,  stor- 
ing grain,  the  function  of  the  msirketplace  now  is  to  pay  merchants 
to  store  grain  and  keep  it  off  the  market  from  fall  and  reward  you 
by  paying  a  premium  for  grain  delivered  in  the  future  versus  the 
nearby. 

It  is  a  very  normal  transaction  for  a  country  elevator  to  be,  for 
instance,  buying  December  com  and  selling  May  com  at  a  specific 
spread  difference.  That  transaction  is  typically  handled  by  a  spread 
broker  in  the  pit,  and  there  are  many  instances  where  the  best 
spread  brokers  in  the  pit  have  at  times  had  to  take  a  position,  one 
(k  the  sides  of  that  transaction,  into  their  own  account  in  order  to 
get  that  spread  treided  at  what  they  felt  was  the  market. 


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If  we  eliminate  dual  trading,  we  could  impair  the  ability  for 
spreads  to  be  traded  in  the  marketplace  which  would  directiy 
imptict  the  ability  of  a  country  elevator  to  be  able  to  profitably  op- 
erate his  facility. 

Mb.  Long.  I  would  like  to  see  some  hard  data  on  that  because  it 
seems  that  whenever  we  ask  a  question,  for  example,  how  much 
was  the  price  affected,  you  say  you  cannot  give  us  some  kind  of  es- 
timate, that  you  do  not  believe  that  it  was  really  eifTected. 

Yet,  you  make  a  statement  as  part  of  your  testimony  that  dual 
trading  provides  liquidity  that  is  needed  in  the  markets.  I  would 
like  to  see  some  numbers  to  support  that  particular  statement. 

Mr.  Beurskens.  From  our  perspective,  in  terms  of  quantitative 
information  to  support  that  statement,  it  does  not  exist  because  we 
do  not  have  anytmng  to  compare  it  against.  That  is,  there  are  no 
markets  that  have  not  allowed  dueil  trading  to  compare  the  liquidi- 
ty, and  it  would  be  venr  difficult  to  support  that 

One  can  only  go  oif  of  experiences  in  terms  of  trading  in  the 
marketplace  which  may  or  may  not  be  adequate  for  what  you  are 
asking. 

Ms.  Long.  But  in  the  interests  of  consistency,  when  you  want  to 
make  a  point  in  your  favor,  or  in  favor  of  your  particular  position, 
you  seem  to  hedge,  to  use  a  term.  I  think  that  if  you  are  going  to 
be  consistent,  and  if  you  axe  going  to  be  convincing,  at  least  to  me, 
and  I  would  hope  to  my  colleagues,  you  are  going  to  have  to  pro- 
vide some  hard  data  to  convince  us  of  the  importance  of  dual  trad- 
ing for  liquidity. 

Mr.  Beurskens.  I  appreciate  that. 

Mr.  English.  Mr.  Gunderaon. 

Mr.  GuNDKRSON.  No  questions. 

Mr.  English.  Mr.  Tallon. 

Mr.  Tallon.  Mr.  Chairman,  thank  you. 

You  mentioned  and  I  cannot  find  it  in  your  testimony — is  it  all 
right  if  I  call  you  Frank? 

Mr.  Beurskens.  That  is  fme. 

Mr.  Tallon.  Thank  you— a  futures  clearing  merchant.  Was  that 
a  term  you  used  in  your  testimony? 

Mi-.  Beurskens.  Yes. 

Mr.  Tallon.  A  real  concern,  of  course,  is  ht)nt-running  or  trad- 
ing Eihead  of  a  customer.  By  any  kind  of  ban  on  dual  trading  on  a 
trading  floor,  we  are  in  no  way  addressing  any  kind  of  front-nm- 
ning  or  trsiding  ahead  of  a  customer  that  could  possibly  oonir  with 
a  futures  clearing  merchant,  is  that  correct? 

Mr.  Beurskens.  It  is  our  desire,  as  I  believe  was  mentioned  in 
the  testimony,  that  we  are  strongly  in  favor  of  maintaining  a 
highly  accurate  audit  trail,  and  with  the  availability  of  that  audit 
trail,  fronts  treiding  should  be  caught  and  penalized  severely. 

We  do  not  like  the  concept  of  banning  dual  trading  entirely 
solely  as  a  method  to  try  to  catch  that  portion  of  that  volume  that 
potentially  could  be  front-running  activity. 

Mr.  Tallon.  But  what  I  am  trying  to  determine  is  there  could 
be — there  could  be,  if  we  are  looking  at  the  abuse  which  is  front- 
running  or  tradii^  ahead  of  a  customer,  off  the  floor,  and  if  we 
wanted  to  really  look  at  improving  the  audit  trail,  perhaps  we 
might  even  need  to  look  at  the — again  using  your  term  the  futures 


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clearing  merchant — and  how  orders  were  being  handled  when  they 
receiv^  them. 

Mr.  Beursk£N8.  You  are  right. 

Mr.  Tallon.  Thank  you. 

Mr.  Engush.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Tfdlon. 

Mr.  Beurekens,  we  appreciate  your  testimony.  Thank  you  very 
much. 

Mr.  Beurskens.  Thank  you. 

Mr.  English.  I  am  going  to  recognize  Mr.  Coleman  to  introduce 
our  next  panel  of  witnesses. 

Mr.  Coleman.  Mr.  Chairman,  our  next  panel  consists  of  two  indi- 
viduals, the  chfurman  of  the  boeird  and  the  president  of  the  Kansas 
aty  Board  of  Trade. 

I  am  happy  to  welcome  to  our  hearing  and  to  our  subcommittee, 
Michael  Braude,  who  is  the  president,  and  Roger  Stover,  who  is  the 
chairman  this  year. 

I  have  had  an  opportunity,  of  course,  to  visit  with  these  folks 
from  time  to  time  as  a  local  Congressman  and  also  to  thank  them 
for  providing  us  information  and  insight  into  the  industry  from 
time  to  time.  I  look  forward  to  their  testimony. 

STATEMENT  OF  MICHAEL  BRAUDE,  PRESIDENT  AND  CHIEF  EX- 
ECUTIVE  OFFICER,  KANSAS  CITY  BOARD  OF  TRADE,  ACCOMPA- 
NIED BY  ROGER  STOVER,  CHAIRMAN 

Mr.  Braude.  Congressman  English,  Congressman  Coleman,  and 
distinguished  members  of  the  committee,  Roger  Stover,  the  elected 
chairman  of  our  exchange,  and  I  very  much  appreciate  the  invita- 
tion to  appear  here  today  to  discuss  the  Kansas  City  Board  of 
Trade's  view^  on  your  proposal  to  reauthorize  the  CFTC. 

I  am  Michael  Braude.  I  am  president  and  chief  executive  officer 
of  our  exchange. 

Mr.  Chairman,  a  member  of  your  subcommittee  staff  visited  the 
Kansas  City  Etoard  of  Trade  on  two  occasions  during  the  course  of 
your  subcommittee's  work  and  we  want  you  to  know  that  we  ap- 
preciate  the  spirit  of  cooperation  that  characterized  those  visits. 

We  felt  that  the  intent  of  both  of  his  visits  was  to  learn  as  much 
as  possible  about  the  operations  of  the  Kansas  City  Board  of  Trade 
and  in  particular  about  our  audit  trail. 

Let  me  preface  my  remarks  with  the  statement  that  since  I 
joined  the  exchange  5Vz  years  ago,  my  experience  hfis  been  that 
the  CPTC  has  done  an  exemplary  job  at  governing  our  industry 
through  a  very  chedlenging  period  of  time,  a  time  of  phenomenal 
growth  in  trading  volume,  in  numbers  of  products  treided,  and  in 
the  diversity  of  instruments  available  for  trading. 

I  would  like  to  move  now  to  the  specific  provisions  of  your  bill. 

First  of  £ill,  permanent  reauthorization.  Our  exchange  unequivo- 
cally supports  the  proposal  to  make  the  CFTC  a  permanent  govern- 
ment agency.  Our  industry  has  matured  over  the  past  10  years  into 
a  key  fiictor  in  international  risk  management,  and  the  CFTC  has 
proven  itself  as  a  capable  regulator  during  that  period. 

We  feel  that  the  process  of  continual  reauthorization  causes  an 
unreEisonahle  drain  on  the  agency,  the  industry,  and  in  fact  on  con- 
gressional resources.  The  current  structure  hindere  the  effective- 


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ness  of  the  Commisaion  by  making  it  a  political  pawn  precisely  at 
those  crisis  moments  when  full  Commission  resources  are  needed 
to  deal  with  the  situation  at  hand. 

Moving  now  to  dual  treiding.  Since  the  news  broke  earlier  this 
year  of  the  investigations  into  the  Chicago  commodity  markets,  we 
feel  that  dual  trading  has  become  the  battering  ram  of  those  who 
would  like  to  see  the  industry  constricted. 

Our  exchange  would  like  to  use  this  opportunity  to  put  forth  that 
dual  trading,  in  and  of  itself,  is  not  the  problem;  dual  trading  is  an 
accepted.  Intimate  and  necessary  component  to  fiituree  trading, 
peu-ticularly  at  smaller  exchanges  like  ours. 

The  key  to  dual  trading  lies  in  whether  the  exchange  in  question 
has  the  appropriate  systems  in  place  to  detect  dual  trading  abuses. 
I  think  we  have  heard  that  over  and  over  again  today. 

These  procedures  may  vary  by  exchange,  depending  on  such  vari- 
ables as  the  number  of  traders  in  a  particular  pit,  trading  volume, 
and  the  sophistication  of  the  exchange's  computerized  surveillance 
system. 

We  at  the  Kansas  City  Board  of  Trade  are  continually  upgrading 
the  effectiveness  of  our  audit  trail  surveillance  ^stem,  eis  are  most 
other  exchanges,  because  we  have  long  recognized  the  need  to  inno- 
vate to  keep  up  with  the  ever-changing  markets. 

Dual  trading  has  been  allowed  ^ese  many  years  in  the  trading 
pits  because  it  yields  a  significant  economic  advantage.  By  improv- 
ing the  liquidity  of  the  pit,  dual  trading  helps  to  assure  as  narrow 
a  bid-flsk  spread  as  possible,  with  benefits  accruing  to  all  partici- 
pants in  that  market. 

A  natural  consequence  of  restricting  dual  trading  is  to  reduce 
the  efficiency  of  the  pit  by  constricting  the  population  of  brokers 
available  to  fill  orders.  This  reduces  pricing,  as  well  as  execution 
emd  efficiency.  If  not  handled  with  care,  restrictions  on  dual  trad- 
ing can  intensify  the  very  problems  this  subcommittee  is  trying  to 
solve  and  perhaps  cause  a  few  more. 

Current  CFTC  r^ulations  clearly  detail  the  responsibility  of  ex- 
changes to  survey,  examine,  and  investigate  their  markets  to  pro> 
tect  against  trading  abuses,  including  those  that  result  from  dual 
tradii^. 

It  is  our  opinion  that  any  exchange  that  can  demonstrate  itself 
capable  of  fulfilling  that  duty  should  be  fdlowed  to  continue  to  dual 
trade.  Conversely,  any  exchange  that  cannot  prove  itself  capable 
should  not  be  allowed  to  dual  trade. 

Your  committee  recognizes  that  a  key  to  effective  monitoring  of 
trading  activity,  including  dual  trading,  is  through  an  effective 
audit  trsiil.  We  completely  agree  with  you.  Our  exchange,  the 
Kansas  City  Board  of  Trade,  was  the  first  exchange  to  require  what 
we  call  "timing  to  the  minute."  Let  me  be  clear  that  means 
manual  timing  to  the  minute. 

We  practiced  manual  timing  to  the  minute  in  our  pits  long 
before  we  were  required  to  do  so  by  the  CFTC.  Our  system  has 
been  recognized  for  its  effectiveness  since  its  implementation. 

Nonetheless,  people  who  have  not  been  directly  involved  in  the 
development  of  such  timing  systems  should  be  fully  aware  of  the 
difficult  nature  of  the  work  involved. 


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While  the  Kansas  Cit^f  Board  of  Trade  is  more  than  willing  to 
work  toward  the  committee's  proposed  1-year  requirement  of  a 
stricter  1-minute  standard  and  the  3-year  requirement  of  a  30- 
second  rule,  we  urge  the  committee  to  allow  the  CFTC  reasonable 
flexibility  in  determining  how  and  when  the  standards  have  been 
met. 

The  challenge  of  the  task  will  not  be  clear  until  the  work  has 
hemn. 

On  broker  associations,  our  opinion  on  broker  associations  is 
similar  to  our  opinion  on  dual  trading.  Broker  associations  in  and 
of  themselves  are  not  the  problem  if  an  exchange  has  a  mechanism 
in  place  to  detect  violations  of  trading  rules.  In  fact,  formal  and  in- 
formal broker  associations  may  help  the  markets  by  improving 
trading  accuracy  and  efRciency. 

Resbicting  the  type  and  degree  of  trading  between  members  of  a 
broker  association  is  second  best  to  again  having  the  procedures  in 
place  to  detect  any  abuses  as  they  occur. 

The  placement  of  restrictions  also  assumes  that  broker  associa- 
tions are  a  formal  business  entity,  when  in  fact  the  m^ority  of 
such  associations  are  quite  informal  and  can  very  easily  be  cemiou- 
flaged  or  disbanded  to  circumvent  restrictive  rules. 

To  be  effective,  any  proposal  that  deals  with  broker  associations 
should,  at  a  minimum,  define  what  a  broker  association  is  and  re- 
quire that  groups  meeting  that  description  be  recognized  as  such 
with  the  appropriate  exchange. 

On  governing  boards,  our  exchemge  has  no  problem  with  your 
proposals  to  make  members  found  guilty  of  certain  exchange  viola- 
tions ineligible  to  serve  on  governing  boards  and  certain  exchange 
committees  or  disciplinary  panels  for  a  set  period  of  time. 

Likewise,  our  exchange  has  no  problem  with  having  20  percent 
of  its  board  members  fn)m  outside  the  exchange.  Parenthetically, 
we  practically  do  that  right  now. 

On  other  issues,  our  exchange  can  also  accept  the  provisions  as 
put  forth  in  the  proposal  to  require  the  establishment  of  discipli- 
nary committees  at  each  exchange  that  are  large  enough  to  include 
a  majority  in  a  category  other  than  that  of  a  person  being  tried. 

We  can  accept  requiring  the  CFTC  to  place  stricter  procedures  to 
r^ulate  telephone  solicitation  of  commodity  accounts. 

We  can  accept  requiring  the  CFTC  to  establish  standards  to  reg- 
ister floor  traders,  and  finally,  to  require  new  registrants  to  attend 
ethics  training. 

In  summary,  the  Kansas  City  Board  of  Trade  applauds  the  sub- 
committee's recommendation  to  make  the  CFTC  a  permanent 
agency.  The  exchange  also  respects  the  committee's  attempt  to  pro- 
tect the  public  good  by  tiying  to  legislate  agfiinst  potential  trading 
abuses,  specifically  from  dual  trading  and  broker  associations. 

However,  we  feel  that  those  issues,  as  well  as  the  general  good  of 
the  investing  public,  can  best  be  served  by  focusing  each  ex- 
change's efforts  on  developing  a  comprehensive  audit  mechanism 
to  seek  out  rule  violators. 

Those  exchanges  not  able  to  meet  a  reasonable  standard  should 
be  made  to  confront  the  consequences. 

The  U.S.  commodity  industry  has  established  itself  successfully 
in  the  intemationed  financial  marketplace.  As  in  any  growth  indus- 


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try>  however,  coDtinuiiig  succesB  will  depend  on  how  we  meet  the 
cnallenges  that  lie  ahead. 

The  committee's  proposal,  if  modified  to  include  some  of  our  sug- 
gestions, we  think  provides  a  very  acceptable  framework  on  which 
to  base  these  efforts. 

We  commend  you  for  your  work  in  drafting  this  legislation.  We 
thank  you  for  the  opportunity  of  appearing  here  today,  and  Roger 
Stover  and/or  I  would  be  happy  to  answer  any  questions  you  have, 
Mr.  Chairmem. 

[The  prepared  statement  of  Mr.  Braude  appears  at  the  conclusion 
of  the  hearing.] 

Mr.  English.  Mr.  Braude,  I  guess  the  question  comes  down  to 
the  fact  that  you  all  have  a  very  high  percentage  of  competence  or 
accuracy  in  your  audit  trail. 

Mr.  Braude.  Yes,  we  do,  Mr.  Chairman.  I  believe  that  had  the 
representative  of  the  Commission  emswered  specifically  your  ques- 
tion today,  we  would  have  been  one  of  the  exchanges  cited. 

Mr.  English.  Well,  we  have  the  numbers  on  it  here,  and  in  look- 
ing at  this,  sa  I  understand  it,  your  overall  accuracy  rate  is  96.8 
percent  and  it  ranges  all  the  way  from  96.5  for  some  transactions 
up  to — at  least  it  is  my  understanding  on  wheat  option — up  to 
99.14. 

Mr.  Braude.  That  is  correct.  We  take  pride  in  that. 

Mr.  English.  Some  people  would  say,  in  fact  I  have  heard  it  said, 
well,  the  saxaXl  exchanges  can  do  that,  but  the  big  exchanges 
cannot. 

Is  that  in  fact  true,  Eire  the  techniques  that  you  all  are  employ- 
ing that  much  different  from  the  other  exchanges  that  allows  you 
to  reach  that,  or  is  it  simply  because  the  volume  that  you  trade  in 
on  a  number  of  these  different  contracts  is  smaller  and  therefore 
allows  you  to  reach  that  accuracy? 

Mr.  Braude.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  think  that  is  a  factor,  but  respect- 
fully, I  cannot  comment  on  what  the  other  exchanges  can  do.  We 
have  kind  of  a  full-time  job  doing  what  we  think  we  have  to  do. 

Now,  I  think  size  is  certainly  a  factor,  but  I  really  think  that  is  a 
question  that  the  other  exchanges  would  have  to  answer. 

Mr.  £]nolish.  Well,  they  are  going  to  say  they  are  not  that  famil- 
iar with  what  you  are  doing. 

Mr.  Braude.  Just  as  we  invited  your  subcommittee  staff  down, 
we  would  be  happy  to  have  any  exchange  come  in  and  study  our 
audit  trail  procedure  anytime  they  want. 

Mr.  English.  So  it  is  going  to  be  up  to  our  stafT  to  tell  us  what 
the  differences  are  between  each  of  the  exchanges  and  whether  or 
not  they  can  meet  these  goals? 

Mr.  Braude.  Well,  quite  frankly,  one  of  the  things  that  we  tried 
to  do  when  your  staff  was  out  in  Kanseis  City  was  to  demonstrate 
to  them  that  there  are  unique  qualities  to  an  exchange,  and  obvi- 
ously our  goal  was  simply  to  show  them  what  we  do,  how  we  do  it, 
emd  the  effort  that  we  have  made  to  achieve  as  close  to  that  100 
percent  as  we  can,  and  frankly  we  are  very  proud  of  what  we  have 
achieved. 

Mr.  English.  And  you  are  not  familiar,  then,  with  the  differ- 
-  ences  between  how  you  conduct  your  audit  trail  as  opposed  to  how 
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Mr.  Braude.  Well,  I  am  somewhat  familiar,  but  again,  I  am  not 
familiar  enough  to  describe  it  in  detail.  I  think  every  other  ex- 
change is  going  to  appear  here. 

Mr.  English.  Mr.  Stover,  are  you  familiar  with  that? 

Mr.  Stover.  No.  I  mean  I  have  only  traded  in  Kansas  City  and 
visited  the  Chica^  Exchange,  I  believe. 

Mr.  Engush.  Well,  you  are  aware  of  the  fact  that  your  audit 
trail  is  different  from  other  audit  trails? 

Mr.  Braude.  Absolutely,  and  so  is  our  timing  mechanism. 

Mr.  Stoves.  Timing  mechanism,  I  Bum>OBe. 

Mr.  English.  So,  your  approach  is  dinerent? 

Mr.  Braude.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  E^NGUSH.  The  elements  that  are  contained  in  that  are  differ- 
ent? 

Mr.  Braude.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  English.  And  it  would  appear  that  some  are  working  better 
than  others. 

Mr.  Braude.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  English.  And  we  have  got  some  exchanges  that  seem  to  be 
having  a  great  deal  more  success  than  others  in  reaching  these 
goals. 

Mr.  Braude.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  English.  Do  you  feel  you  are  at  the  point  that  you  have 
achieved  perfection? 

Mr.  Braude.  No,  sir.  We  think,  as  I  mentioned  in  our  testimony, 
we  are  continually  refining.  In  fact,  I  think  in  the  period  since  the 
representative  of  your  subcommittee  was  in  Kansas  City,  we  have 
made  a  couple  of  automated  changes  that  hopefully  will  get  those 
percentage  flguree  higher  than  what  you  just  cited. 

Mr.  E^NGLiSH.  I  also  note,  the  point  that  I  made,  it  appears  on 
some  contracts  you  have  a  higher  ;>ercentage  of  accuracy  than  you 
do  on  other  contracts. 

Does  it  vary  irom  contract  to  contract  as  far  as  the  accuracy  is 
concerned? 

Mr.  Braude.  Yes,  sir.  ^ain,  the  lower  volume  contracts  have 
the  higher  percentage  of  accuracy,  and  what  we  are  working  on 
now  is  to  get  it  up  on  the  higher  volume  ones. 

Mr.  English.  Does  the  fact  that  certfiin  times  of  the  day,  when 
they  are  involved,  you  have  fast  trading  with  r^ard  to  some  of 
your  contracts,  you  have  that  kind  of  volumes  or  not? 

Mr.  Braude.  I  think  we  have  worked  pretty  hard  on  eliminating 
those  differences,  and  I  do  not  believe  you  would  find  that  the  case 
right  now. 

Mr.  English.  So  you  do  not  have  so-called  fast  trading? 

Mr.  Braude.  We  do  have  fast  markets,  yes,  sir. 

Mr.  English.  During  that  particular  period,  is  it  harder  to  obtain 
this  d^ree  of  accuracy  than  it  is  at  others? 

Mr.  Braude.  Yes,  it  is,  but  we  do  increase  our  surveillance,  par- 
ticularly our  visual  surveillance  at  those  periods  of  time. 

Mr.  Engush.  So,  biisically,  we  are  talking  about  the  greater  the 
volume,  the  greater  the  amount  of  activity  at  a  certain  time,  the 
more  d^cult  it  is  to  maintain  the  accuracy  of  the  audit  trail? 

Mr.  Braude.  I  think  that  would  be  £in  accurate  statement. 

Mr.  English.  Thank  you  very  much. 


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Mr.  Coleman. 

Mr.  CoLBifAN.  Michael,  I  will  not  ask  you  to  comment  on  other 
people's  audit  trails,  but  let  me  put  you  in  somebody  else's  shoes. 
Maybe  you  would  be  more  familiar  with  this.     

Let's  assume  that  you  had  control  over  the  CPTC  and  that  you 
were  trying  to  get  some  of  your  sister  exchanges  that  had  a  larger 
volume,  lers  say,  in  Chicago  and  New  York,  come  up  with  an  audit 
trail  which  is  more  precise  than  what  they  currently  have. 

How  would  you  do  that? 

Mr.  Bhaudb.  Well,  Congressman  Coleman,  very  frankly,  I  do  be- 
lieve— and  I  was  not  trying  to  be  facetious  in  answer  to  the  chair- 
man's question — I  think  they  do  have  a  different  set  of  problems 
and  I  really  would  not  be  so  presumptuous  as  to  try  to  address 
those. 

We  tried  to  make  the  point  when  your  staff  was  out,  and  I  have 
tried  to  make  it  here  today,  that  each  exchange  is  unique  and  we 
have  got  a  pretty  full  platter  trying  to  meet  the  needs  of  our  own 
exchange. 

I  would  tell  you  again  that  any  exchange  is  welcome  at  any  time 
to  come  out  and  we  would 

Mr.  Coleman.  I  am  not  trying  to  ask  you  to  cast  aspersions  on 
somebody  else's  administration  of  their  exchange,  but  you  were 
here  this  morning,  you  heard  me  ask  Wendy  Gramm,  and  you 
heard  her  testimony.  Somehow  I  guess  the  desire  is  to  keep  mud- 
dling through  like  we  have  been  with  some  sort  of  amorphous 
vision  of  w^t  an  accuracy  percentage  ought  to  be.  We  know  the 
exchanges  Eire  trying  to  come  up  with  some  package  to  get  it  up  to 
90  percent,  and  somehow  that  is  going  to  be  the  goal.  Basically, 
other  than  cutting  off  new  contracts  and  a  few  hassling  maneuvers 
that  the  Commission  can  do,  I  guess  they  are  just  holding  out  hope 
that  the  exchanges  are  going  to  do  this  on  their  own. 

I  guess  what  we  are  saying  is  that  it  is  going  to  have  to  be  more 
than  just  hope,  and  if  you  were  not  doing  a  good  job  in  Kansas 
City,  we  woiAd  ask  you  to  do  better,  and  we  would  not  jiwt  hope 
that  you  would  do  better. 

Mr.  Bbaudb.  Well,  Congressman  Coleman,  I  would  say  that 
philosophically,  I  would  not  have  any  problem  with  setting  a 
rather  high  percentage  and  memdating  that  that  percentage  be 
met.  I  mean  I  do  not  think  that  that  is  an  unreasonable  request. 

Mr.  Coleman.  We  have  not  even  gone  that  far. 

Mr.  Beaude.  I  understand  that. 

Mr.  CoLEHAN.  We  have  only  said  to  them  to  come  up  with  some 
sort  of  device  which  is  verifiable  to  reconstruct  the  accuracy  as  de- 
termined necessary  by  the  Commission,  so  they  can  enforce  provi- 
sions of  the  act.  So,  it  would  not  have  to  be  95,  96.  It  could  be  91, 1 
do  not  know. 

Mr.  Bbaude.  We  find  nothing  unreasonable  about  that. 

Mr.  Coleman.  You  should  not  have  any  problems  with  that. 

Mr.  Braude.  Absolutely  not. 

Mr.  Colehan.  I  know  you  are  stating  this  for  the  record.  It  abso- 
lutely does  not  impact  your  operation  at  all  now,  and  you  are 
under  7,000  contracts.  So  what  you  are  saying  here  today  is  not 
self-serving. 

Mr.  Braude.  That  is  correct. 


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Mr.  CoLEUAN.  It  ia  more  of  what  you  refilly  believe  in  a  philo- 
sophical manner. 

Mr.  Braude.  That  is  exactly  right. 

Mr.  Coleman.  Let  me  ask  you  this  question,  though,  that  was 
askml  of  Dr.  Gramm.  You  have  read  Uie  bill  here,  and  we  give 
them  all  sorts  of  exemptions  or  ways  to  opt  out  of  this  ban  on  dual 
trading  even  if  it  "threatens  the  public  interest"  whatever  that  is. 

Would  you  not  say  the  Commission  would  have  plenty  of  oppor- 
tunities to  exempt  people  from  this  prohibition? 

Mr.  Braude.  I  would  believe  that  is  correct,  yes. 

Mr.  Coleman.  I  mean  they  could  increase,  if  nothing  else,  the 
7,000  contracts  to  300,000  contracts,  and  everybody  would  be 
exempt. 

Mr.  Braude.  I  agree  with  that.  Congressman  Coleman,  you  hit  a 
point  that  I  think  deserves  some  emphasis,  and  that  is  that  last 
year  in  our  wheat  pit,  which  is  our  major  pit,  our  average  volume 
of  trading  as  defined  by  this  bill  was  about  5,300  contracts  a  day, 
so,  yes,  we  would  be  exempt. 

You  are  filso  100  percent  correct  that  philosophiceilly — and  I 
think  that  is  the  spirit  of  your  bill — we  believe  that  dual  trading 
should  be  permitted  in  any  pit  that  heis  a  satisfactory  audit  trail. 

I  think  essentially — you  and  I  visited  about  this  personally  many 
times — we  are  saying  essentially  the  same  thing. 

Mr.  Coleman.  Yes.  We  heard  testimony  today.  We  have  a  study 
going  on  about  dual  trading  and  its  impact,  and  yet  we  are  not 
sure,  £md  nobody  seems  to  know  for  sure  in  the  industry,  what 
impact  this  will  have  on  liquidity,  even  when  you  have  100,000  con- 
tracts. 

Mr.  Braude.  I  can  tell  you,  and  I  think  this  addresses  a  little  bit 
Congresswoman  Long's  question,  we  have  done  a  pretty  extensive 
study  to  see  what  percentage  of  the  volume  of  our  wheat  pit  trad- 
ing ia  done  by  dual  traders,  and  it  runs  somewhere  between  25  and 
30  percent. 

Mr.  Coleman.  And  that  is  a  small  volume. 

Mr.  Braude.  Yes,  compared  with  an  average  daily  volume  of 
about  5,300  contracts. 

Mr.  Coleman.  Could  I  ask  one  question  of  Mr.  Stover. 

We  have  heard  some  testimony  that  if  we  prohibit  dual  trading, 
that  the  people  who  would  be  doing  trading  on  the  floors  would  be 
more  inefficient,  less  experienced,  they  would  not  be  handling  it 
right,  you  know  these  arguments,  you  have  heard  these  Eirgiunents. 

Could  you  comment  on  that,  again  not  for  your  exchange,  but  for 
others. 

Mr.  Stover.  It  has  not  been  many  years  ago,  maybe  3  or  4  years 
ago,  that  there  was  very  little  activity  in  the  grain  meu'kets  and  in 
our  futures  pits  specifically.  I  think  it  has  been  that  way  since  I 
have  been  in  the  business.  Since  1971,  we  have  had  up  cycles,  stor- 
^e  years,  trading  years,  and  it  is  difficult  to  maintain  qualified 
personnel  from  slow  times  to  good  times. 

I  think  that  when  markets  are  very,  very  slow,  a  person  is  not 
going  to  have  enough  brokerage  to  make  a  living  on.  This  goes 
sometimes  month  to  month  or  we  will  have  flurries  in  the  summer 
and  then  it  will  slow  down  to  very  small  volumes. 


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You  have  r*  period  of  time  where  you  need  broken  to  get  their 
feet  on  the  g.-<  md  and  to  establish  themaelves  before  they  get  sub- 
stantial decks  i  orders,  eind  for  them  to  survive  and  pay  the  bills, 
they  are  going  to  have  to  do  some  trading,  as  well  as  try  to  pick  up 
the  scrap  decks. 

When  you  come  down  to  an  exchange,  you  do  not  walk  in  there 
without  a  lot  of  competition.  So,  it  is  a  matter  of  trying  to  hang  on 
until  you  get  any  business  established,  and  it  is  tough  sometimes. 

I  guess  what  I  feel  is  that  in  many  instances,  with  the  elimina- 
tion of  dual  trading,  the  current  brokers  would  be  more  monopolis- 
tic, less  competition. 

Mr.  ENGLISH.  Ms.  Long. 

Ms.  Long.  The  Chicago  Board  of  Trade  last  week  called  an  emer- 
gency order  and  required  Uquidation  of  soybeans  above  a  certain 
level.  In  earlier  testimony  today,  when  we  were  tallring  with  Dr. 
Gramm,  we  talked  about  the  role  of  the  CFTC,  and  it  seems  to  me 
that  it  might  make  more  sense  or  might  be  more  effective  of  the 
CFTC  were  notified  before  that  kind  of  order  were  made,  and  if  the 
order  were,  in  fact,  made  by  the  CFTC  given  that  the  CFTC  should 
be  the  moet  objective  body  to  make  such  a  determination  regarding 
the  specifics  of  the  order  and  when  the  order  is  made,  and  so  forth. 

Do  you  see  aiwproblems  with  requiring  an  exchange  to,  first  of 
all,  notify  the  CFTC  before  making  such  an  order?  The  second  part 
of  my  question  is:  What  kind  of  problems  or  are  thereany  prob- 
lems with  requiring  that  the  order  come  from  the  CFTC  rather 
than  from  one  of  the  exchanges? 

Mr.  Braude.  I  might  mention  in  the  5'^  years  that  I  have  been 
at  our  exchange,  the  only  emergency  actions  we  have  taken  were 
during  the  week  of  October  19,  1987,  when  a  couple  of  times  we 
suspended  trading,  not  in  our  wheat  pit,  but  in  our  value  Une  pit 
because  there  was  so  much  trading  with  the  S  and  P. 

On  those  occasions,  Congresswoman  Long,  we  did  notify  the 
CFTC  prior  to  taking  that  action.  So,  I  think  that  in  answer  to  the 
first  part  of  your  question,  I  think  no,  there  would  be  no  problem 
in  notifying  them  I»fore  the  action. 

Now,  whether  or  not  the  action  should  be — again,  as  I  think  was 
testifi^  to  this  morning  by  Chairman  Gramm,  the  CFTC  stjll  has 
the  power  to  order  emergency  action,  so  that  it  kind  of  seems  to  me 
that  if,  one,  we  notify  them  in  advance,  and  two,  they  still  have 
that  power,  you  have  about  accomplished  what  you  are  saying. 

I  guess  under  their  emergency  power,  we  notify  them  in  advance, 
if  they  do  not  -want  it,  they  can  just  institute  some  other  emergen- 
cy action,  so  I  think  you  could  accomplish  it. 

But  do  I  see  any  problem  with  notifying  them  in  advance,  the 
answer  is  no. 

Ms.  Long.  Thank  you. 

Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman. 

Mr.  English.  Mr.  Gundeison. 

Mr.  GuNDERSON.  No  questions. 

Mr.  English.  Mr.  Tallon. 

Mr.  Tallon.  Mr.  Braude,  I  think  you  mentioned  in  maybe  a 
question  Mr.  F)nglish  or  Mr.  Coleman  asked  you,  that  there  Etre  in- 
herent differences  in  exchanges,  whether  it  is  a  hvestock  contract 
or  a  sugar  contiBCt,  the  trading  volume  is  different.  You  do  not 


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know  what  kind  of  technol<%y  and  what  kind  of  software  exactly 
another  exchange  is  using. 

I  jiifit  simply  say  that  we  might  be  aware  when  we  start  mandat- 
ing time  stamps  and  one  thing  and  another,  that  we  understand 
that  we  are  dealing  with  different  entities. 

Would  you  CEU%  to  comment  any  further  on  that? 

Mr.  Bkaude.  Yes.  You  look  at  a  typical  day.  Congressman,  in  our 
wheat  pit  there  is  probably  45  to  50  traders  on  a  good  day.  If  you 
look  at  some  of  the  pits  in  Chicago,  there  is  700  to  800  people  in  the 
S  and  P  pit,  or  the  Tretisury  bond  pit  at  the  Merc. 

Obviously,  the  technology  involved  in  floor  reporting  or  any 
other  factor  is  different,  so,  yes,  I  would  certainly  concur  with  that. 

Mr.  Tallon.  Thank  you  very  much.  I  yield  back  the  balance  of 
my  time,  Mr.  Chairman. 

Mr.  English.  I  want  to  thank  you  both  for  your  testimony.  It  has 
been  extremely  helpful  to  us.  I  also  want  to  tell  you  how  much  I 
appreciate  the  cooperation  that  you  gave  to  our  staff  over  the  past 
few  months  and  the  hospitality  that  you  have  shown  the  subcom- 
mittee. 

Mr.  Braude.  Thank  you.  The  welcome  continues. 

Mr.  Stover.  Thank  you. 

Mr.  English.  Thank  you  very  much. 

Our  next  panel  is  Mr.  Bennett  J.  Com,  who  is  president  of  the 
Coffee,  Sugar,  find  Cocoa  Exchange  in  New  York;  Mr.  Lou  Gutt- 
man,  who  is  with  New  York  Mercantile  Exchange  in  New  York 
City;  and  Mr.  Robert  E.  Fink,  who  is  chairman  of  the  Commodity 
Exchange,  Inc.,  in  New  York. 

As  I  understand  it,  Mr.  Guttman,  you  will  testify  first,  is  that 
correct? 

Mr.  Guttman.  Yes,  Mr.  Chairman. 

Mr.  English.  Let  me  also  say  that  after  reviewing  your  written 
testimony,  we  want  to  encourage  you  to  summarize  that  testimony 
and  we  appreciate  it  very  much. 

STATEMENT  OF  Z.  LOU  GUTTMAN,  CHAIRMAN  OF  THE  BOARD  OF 
DIRECTORS,  NEW  YORK  MERCANTILE  EXCHANGE 

Mr.  Gltttman.  I  will  endeavor  to  go  through  this  as  quickly  as  I 
cein,  Mr.  Chairman.  I  do  want  to  emphasize  the  last  few  pages  of 
our  testimony  because  I  think  it  is  quite  important  to  us  in  New 
York,  and  it  might  help  us  through  these  next  few  weeks,  possibly 
months. 

Mr.  Chairman,  members  of  the  conunittee,  my  name  is  Lou  Gutt- 
meui.  I  am  the  chairman  of  the  board  of  directors  of  the  New  York 
Mercantile  Exchange.  On  behalf  of  the  exchange,  I  wish  to  thank 
you  for  the  opportunity  to  appear  before  this  committee  to  present 
our  views  concerning  H.R  2869  and  the  reauthorization  of  the 
CFTC. 

With  your  permission  I  would  like  to  submit  my  written  testimo- 
ny for  the  record  and  I  will  briefly  summarize  it  for  you. 

It  is  abundantly  clear  that  H.R.  2869  seeks  to  send  a  message  to 
the  public  that  Congress  intends  to  act  swiftly  and  firmly  to  rectify 
perceived  defects  in  the  r^ulation  of  Aitures  markets. 


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We  do  not  dispute  the  value  of  this  message.  Although  we  believe 
that  the  allegations  of  abuse  in  our  markets  are  more  a  matter  of 
perception  than  fact,  it  is  undeniably  in  our  interest  to  ensure  that 
the  public  confidence  in  the  int^rity  of  our  markets  is  maintained. 

Wmle  we  support  the  message,  as  well  as  the  concept  of 
strengthening  the  regulatory  system,  we  differ  fundamentally  as  to 
the  means  chosen  to  achieve  those  objectives. 

For  the  first  time,  the  bill  seeks  to  impose  congressional  man- 
dates in  a  level  of  detail  traditionally  reserved  for  the  CFTC  and 
the  exchanges,  who  are  the  experts  familiar  with  industry  practice, 
customer  needs,  emerging  technology  and  alt  of  the  other  practical 
realities  of  day-to-day  life. 

The  bill  ignores  msiny  important  differences  among  the  regulated 
markets  and  the  customers  that  use  them.  The  net  result,  we  be- 
lieve, would  be  to  weaken  rather  than  enhance  the  efficiency  of  the 
system.  These  weaknesses  would  be  exploited  by  our  overseas  com- 
petitors who  are  actively  developing  look-alike  contracts  and  at- 
tempting to  take  our  business  overseas. 

In  the  final  analysis,  under  H.R.  2869,  the  American  public 
would  lose  the  benefits  of  liquid  and  efficient  markets  they  em'oy 
today. 

tt  is  both  premature  and  unnecessary  to  r^ulate  with  the  detail 
contained  in  H.R.  2869.  The  present  regulatory  structure,  with  its 
flexibility,  has  fdlowed  the  U.S.  markets  to  provide  internationally 
envied  risk-shifting  and  price  discovery  forums  that  have  been  cm 
immeasurable  value  in  achieving  price  certainty  and  stability  to 
farmers,  oil  producers,  refiners,  industry,  the  financial  community, 
and  ultimately,  to  consumers. 

Mr.  Chairman,  the  system  works.  Reaction  to  the  press  reports 
in  January  of  a  Justice  Department  investigation  into  commodity 
trading  in  Chicago  demonstrates  that  the  system  works.  Virtually 
every  commodity  exchange  in  the  counti?  has  performed  an  exten- 
sive review  of  its  own  trading  rules  ana  practices  over  the  last  6 
months. 

Many  constructive  recommendations  for  regulatory  reform  have 
been  offered  by  the  NYMEX  regulatory  review  task  force  and  the 
special  review  committees  formro  by  the  other  exchfmges. 

The  essential  conclusion  of  the  NYMEX  task  force  was  that  the 
appropriate  method  to  regulate  against  trade  practice  violations 
WEis  through  rules  designed  to  prohibit  improper  conduct,  an  audit 
trail  sufficient  to  recreate  the  sequence  of  trading,  surveillance, 
and  compliance  systems  that  identified  trade  practice  violations, 
and  a  disciplinary  process  that  both  punishes  the  violator  and 
serves  to  deter  future  violations. 

On  dual  trading,  however,  the  task  force  recognized  that  dual 
trading  was  not  a  problem  in  itself.  The  task  force,  therefore,  did 
not  recommend  banning  this  otherwise  beneficial  practice  merely 
because  of  an  apparent  perception  that  it  created  a  confiict  of  in- 
terest. 

Until  studies  determine  with  certainty  that  such  an  action  would 
not  threaten  the  efficiency  and  liquidity  of  the  markets,  which  will 
ultimately  harm  the  commercial  and  public  participants  that  the 
regulatory  structure  is  designed  to  protect,  the  composition  of  the 
markets  should  not  be  tampered  with. 


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Thus,  the  task  force  offered  many  recommendations  for  strength- 
enic^  the  regulatory  structure,  but  at  the  same  time,  it  attempted 
to  ensure  that  the  markets  maintained  their  highly  respected  pric- 
ing capabilities. 

We  respectfully  request  that  Congress  take  the  same  measured 
approach  in  its  reauthorization  of  the  CFTC.  On  a  positive  note,  it 
appears  that  many  of  the  provisions  of  H.R.  2869  are  consistent 
with  the  NYMEX  task  force  recommendations. 

We  believe  that  they  represent  a  reasonable  efTort  at  fine-tuning 
the  Commodity  Exchange  Act  and  system  of  CFTC  and  exchange 
regulations  that  govern  our  industry.  Our  specific  comments  on 
those  provisions  are  contained  in  an  addendum  to  my  written  testi- 
mony. 

The  dufd  trading  and  audit  trail  provisions  of  the  bill,  on  the 
other  hand,  seem  to  represent — with  all  due  respect,  Mr.  Chair- 
man— a  "shoot  first  find  ask  questions  later"  approach.  I^ey  place 
at  risk  the  efficiency  and  viabUity  of  our  markets. 

We  are  fearful  of  such  a  method  of  legislation,  because  once  the 
damage  is  done  to  the  markets,  it  will  be  irreversible.  Accordingly, 
we  respectfully  request  that  the  subcommittee  reject  those  provi- 
sions of  the  bill. 

If  I  may  briefly  digress — I  do  know  I  am  limited  for  time — the 
trading  populations  on  the  commodity  exchange  floors  are  com- 
prised of  three  groups  of  participants,  Mr.  Chairman:  floor  brokers 
who  exclusively  execute  customer  orders,  floor  traders  who  serve 
exclusively  as  market-makers,  absorbing  risk  by  trading  for  their 
own  accounts,  and  the  so-called  "dual  traders"  who  may  both  exe- 
cute customer  orders  and  trade  for  their  own  accounts  on  the  same 
day. 

These  three  components,  though  not  necessarily  comprised  of 
equal  numbers  of  traders,  are  the  three  legs  of  the  stool  that  sup- 
port the  open  outcry  auction  market  system. 

That  system,  in  turn,  provides  the  most  efficient  pricing  system 
in  the  world.  On  an  average  day,  there  are  approximately  450  trad- 
ers on  the  NYMEX  floor,  spread  among  crude  oil,  heating  oil,  gaso- 
line, propane,  platinum,  pEdladium  futures  trading,  crude  oil,  heat- 
ing oil,  and  gfisoline  options  trading. 

The  liquidity  provided  to  the  markets  by  dutil  traders  varies  de- 
pending on  a  wide  range  of  circumstances.  It  varies  between  com- 
modities, times  of  the  trading,  and  the  particular  exchanges. 

In  New  York,  for  example,  the  limited  number  of  qualified  floor 
treiders  makes  each  individual's  contribution  to  the  market  more 
significant  and  less  replaceable. 

In  our  crude  oil  market — in  response  to  Ms.  Long's  question  ear- 
lier— at  its  most  active  time,  65  percent  of  our  traders  are  dual 
traders.  They  trade  35  percent  of  the  total  volume  as  market- 
meikers  for  their  own  account.  They  also  provide  a  significant 
amount  of  brokerage  service  for  customer  orders. 

I  am  not  going  to  suggest  that  if  you  cut  the  dual  trading  leg 
from  the  stool  that  the  stool  will  immediately  fall.  What  I  am  sug- 
gesting is  that  in  light  of  the  vast  amount  of  domestic  commerce 
that  relies  upon  the  stability  of  the  stool  for  support,  any  proposal 
that  includes  a  provision  for  an  immediate  or  contingent  market- 
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At  the  present  time,  there  is  no  evidence  that  dual  trading  is  an 
evil  unto  itself.  All  that  is  being  said  is  that  the  practice  creates 
the  perception  of  a  conflict  of  interest. 

We  submit  that  dual  trading  is  not  the  problem.  Like  other  po- 
tential conflicts  of  interest,  it  can  be  r^^lated  through  the  strict 
enforcement  of  rules  designated  to  prevent  the  abuse  of  any  con- 
flict that  may  arise. 

Mr.  Chairman,  two  proposals  have  been  floated  to  address  the 
perception  problem  associated  with  dual  trading.  The  NYMEX's 
board  of  directors  met  early  yesterday  and  would  like  to  offer  up  a 
third  proposal  which  our  sister  exchanges  in  New  York,  COMEX, 
and  the  New  York  Cotton  Exchtinge,  cotton  agree  in  principle,  and 
our  sister  exchange  of  Coffee,  Sugar  and  Cocoa  will  consider. 

The  two  pending  proposals,  o^ered  by  the  proposed  bill  and  by 
the  Chicago  exchemges,  tie  a  market's  privilege  to  have  dual  trad- 
ing to  audit  trail  accuracy  and/or  market  trading  volume. 

We  submit  that  this  is  the  wrong  approach.  If  there  is  a  lack  of 
confidence  in  the  ability  to  police  the  markets  to  protect  the  public, 
then  strengthen  that  ability.  The  punishment  of  banning  dual  trad- 
ing will  hurt  market  participants,  not  help  them.  It  will  meike  mar- 
kets less  efficient  and  drive  up  the  cost  of  doing  business. 

For  these  reasons,  NYMEX — and  as  I  indicated,  with  the  under- 
standing in  principle  of  our  sister  exchanges — offer  the  following 
tdtemative  proposal:  

(a)  Congress  should  not  legislate,  but  mandate  that  the  CFTC, 
with  the  &11  consultation  of  each  exchange,  shall  determine  aa  ap- 
propriate standard  for  each  exchange,  to  ensure  the  accuracy  of  tiie 
exchange's  audit  trail.  The  CFTC  shall  take  into  account  the 
strengths  and  unique  characteristics  of  each  system's  method  of 
audit  trail  creation. 

(b)  The  Commission,  with  the  full  consultation  of  each  excheuige, 
shedl  develop  criteria  to  determine  whether  each  exchcmge  is  in 
compliemce  with  its  standard. 

(c)  To  ensure  that  the  traders  on  the  floor  of  the  exchange,  who 
actually  initiate  the  audit  trail,  are  held  to  the  highest  standards, 
Congress  shall  mandate  that  the  Commission,  through  r^ulation, 
shall  require  exchanges  to  adopt  rules  mandating  each  floor 
member  to  adhere  to  strict,  objective  standards  for  audit  trail  accu- 
racy. 

"Hie  exchange  rules  shall  provide  speciflc  and  harsh  sanctions  for 
failure  to  comply,  including,  ultimately,  the  loss  of  duEd  trading 
privileges  and/or  suspension  from  membership. 

We  believe  that  tins  proposal,  more  than  any  we  have  heard  to 
date,  most  directly  confronts  the  issues  at  hand.  All  brokers  should 
be  held  to  the  highest  standards  in  audit  trail  creation  accuracy. 

An  accurate  audit  trail  is  the  optimum  means  to  examine  the 
trading  of  the  individual  for  violations  such  as  trading  ahead  of 
customer  orders. 

Under  this  proposal,  Mr.  Chairman,  Congress  will  legislatively 
ensure  the  highest  audit  trail  standards.  The  CFTC  will  retain  its 
regulatory  authority  to  ensure  that  the  standards  are  carefully  tai- 
lored to  achieve  Congress'  goal  while  preserving  t^e  competitive- 
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The  exchange  will  benefit  by  being  permitted  to  address  the 
issue  in  a  forthright  and  direct  manner.  If  an  individuEil  cannot 
adhere  to  the  strict  audit  trail  creation  accuracy  standard,  the  indi- 
vidual should  be  punished. 

Finally,  and  most  importantly,  with  thifi  proposal  euid  the  many 
other  surveillance  end  compliance  improvements  that  are  being 
implemented,  the  institution — meaning  the  exchanges — and  the 
trading  public  benefit  fi'om  systems  capable  of  detecting  trading 
abuses  and  by  retaining  the  most  liquid  and  efficient  futures  mar- 
kets to  conduct  their  hedging  and  price  discovery. 

On  top  of  that,  Mr.  Chairman,  Congress  will  have  ensured  that 
each  participant  in  the  process  is  fully  accountable  for  the  integrity 
of  the  system. 

I  thank  you  for  your  time  and  consideration.  I  welcome  any  ques- 
tions you  may  have. 

[The  prepared  statement  of  Mr.  Guttman  appears  at  the  conctu- 
sion  of  the  hearing.] 

Mr.  English.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Guttman. 

Mr.  Com. 

STATEMENT  OF  BENNETT  J.  CORN,  PRESIDENT.  COFFEE,  SUGAR, 
AND  COCOA  EXCHANGE 

Mr.  Corn.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman.  Good  afternoon.  My  name 
is  Bennett  Com.  I  am  the  president  of  the  Coffee,  Sugar  and  Cocoa 
Exchange  in  New  York  City. 

I  have  already  provided  the  subcommittee  with  my  written  testi- 
mony, I  will  now  briefly  summarize  some  of  the  principal  issues  we 
especially  wish  to  bring  to  your  attention. 

Our  exchange,  which  has  been  in  existence  since  1882,  is  the  pre- 
eminent market  in  the  world  for  trading  futures  and  options  in 
coffee,  si^eir,  and  cocoa.  Our  contracts  are  heavily  used  by  commer- 
cial interests  engaged  in  the  production,  exportation,  distribution, 
and  processing  of  these  three  commodities. 

We  are  and  always  have  been  dedicated  to  maintaining  the  high- 
est standards  of  integrity  in  our  markets  and  over  the  years  we 
have  made  major  commitments  of  resources  to  that  end. 

This  has  been  done  as  a  matter  of  discharging  our  self-regulatory 
responsibility.  It  has  also  been  done  as  a  matter  of  enlightened  self- 
interest.  This  exchange  operates  with  powerful  competition  from 
eight  rival  exchanges  overseas,  most  notably  the  London  Futures 
and  Options  Exchange,  which  actively  trades  futures  on  coffee, 
sugar,  and  cocoa. 

It  is  very  important  for  us  to  maintain  marketplaces  of  the  high- 
est quality,  for  if  we  do  not,  it  is  a  very  simple  matter  for  our  larg- 
est customers  simply  to  take  their  business  overseas. 

In  other  words,  we  have  the  same  goals  as  the  subcommittee.  We 
have  to.  Our  livelihood  depends  on  it. 

We  are  very  concerned,  however,  that  in  a  well-intentioned  effort 
to  benefit  the  trading  public,  the  bill  presently  pending  before  the 
subcommittee,  H.R.  2869,  will  actually  have  the  opposite  effect. 

In  some  of  its  most  important  provisions,  the  bill  proceeds  from 
an  unproven  and,  we  believe,  incorrect  premise.  It  then  attempts  to 
solve  a  problem  which  has  not  been  shown  to  exist,  and  to  do  so  in 


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a  way  that  could  seriously  damage  the  U.S.  futures  markets  in- 
stead of  strengthening  them. 

Section  101  of  the  Dill  would  in  effect  ban  dual  trading  in  mar- 
kets having  an  average  daily  trading  volume  of  7,000  contracts, 
unless  the  relevant  exchange  can  show  that  its  audit  trail  satisfies 
requirements  that  may  well  be  impossible  to  meet. 

We  would  be  affected  by  this  provision  in  that  at  present  our 
sugar  tutures  trade  well  over  7,000  contracts  per  day,  while  cofifee 
and  cocoa  futures  trade  just  under  that  eimount. 

Dual  trading  plays  a  very  important  role  in  our  exchange.  A 
quick  preliminary  survey  indicates  that  in  our  sugar  futures 
market,  over  50  percent  of  the  floor  traders  are  dual  traders,  and 
those  dual  traders  accounted  for  as  much  as  80  percent  of  the 
volume  on  the  trading  days  we  reviewed. 

If  dual  trading  were  banned,  trading  volume  could  be  significant- 
ly affected.  That,  in  turn,  could  reduce  liquidity  and  ^erec^  injure 
our  markets. 

In  our  case,  the  problem  would  be  compounded  by  the  fact  that  a 
loss  of  liquidity  will  make  our  foreign  competitors  more  attractive. 
It  is  premature  to  adopt  a  ban  on  diial  trading  at  this  time. 

The  subcommittee  staff  has  indicated  that  on  the  basis  of  its  in- 
vestigation, it  did  not  consider  dual  trading  to  be  a  serious  problem 
since,  among  other  things,  it  is  one  of  the  easiest  abuses  to  monitor 
for  and  todetect- 

The  CFTC  presently  is  conducting  a  thorough  study  of  dual  trad- 
ing. The  GAO  is  conducting  a  study  of  the  futures  markets,  and  the 
U.S.  attorney  in  Chicago  has  been  reported  to  be  conducting  an  in- 
vestigation of  certain  trade  practices. 

It  would  make  far  better  sense  to  wait  until  the  results  of  those 
studies  and  that  investigation  are  released  before  decithng  whether 
any  l^islation  regarding  dual  trading  is  warranted,  and  S  so,  what 
the  precise  nature  of  that  l^islation  should  be. 

Nevertheless,  if  the  Congress  concludes  that  the  protection  of  the 
U.S.  trading  public  requires  the  abolition  of  dual  trading,  then  the 
conclusion  should  apply  as  much  to  trading  on  foreign  exchangee 
as  on  U.S.  exchanges. 

In  other  words,  if  dual  tr^ling  is  to  be  banned,  then  no  one 
should  be  permitted  to  solicit  or  accept  orders  from  U.S.  customeiB 
for  execution  on  foreign  exch2mges  that  permit  dual  trading. 

On  a  separate  point,  the  bill  would  direct  the  CFTC  to  exempt 
any  exchange  fivm  the  dual  trading  ban  if  they  can  show  that  its 
audit  trail  can  detect  any  and  all  instances  of  trading  violations 
which  the  Commission  determines  to  be  attributable  to  dual  trad- 
ing, and  is  fully  verifiable. 

We  have  in  place  a  tight  audit  trail  procedure  that  has  been  ex- 
tremely effective.  We  are  constantly  striving  to  improve  it  and  we 
expect  that  we  will  soon  meet  the  performance  standards  set  by 
the  CFTC. 

However,  the  standards  set  forth  in  the  bill  may  well  be  impossi- 
ble to  comply  with.  There  is  no  system  we  are  aware  of  in  being  or 
on  any  drawing  board  that  can  detect  any  tmd  all  instances  of  any 
violation. 

Furthermore,  there  is  no  indication  whatsoever  as  to  what  it 
means  to  require  that  a  system  be  "fully  verifiable."  The  bill  is 


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structured  so  that  an  exchange  would  be  banned  from  dual  trading 
during  the  period  it  talces  for  the  CFTC  to  determine  the  adequacy 
of  its  audit  trail,  a  period  that  could  last  a  year  or  more. 

If  the  CFTC  eventually  determines  that  sm  exchange  has  met  its 
burden,  there  must  then  be  a  90-day  waiting  period  after  the  CFTC 
reports  its  findings  to  Congress.  Only  then  could  the  exchange 
resume  dual  trading,  but  by  that  time,  liquidity  could  already  have 
been  lost  and  the  harm  could  already  have  been  done. 

The  exchangee  should  be  permitted  to  have  dual  trading  unless 
and  until  the  CFTC  determines  that  any  applicable  standards  have 
not  been  met. 

We  have  a  number  of  detailed  concerns  which  are  spelled  out  in 
my  written  testimony.  I  hope  the  subcommittee  will  carefully  con- 
sider the  issues  we  have  raised. 

Mr.  Chairman,  that  concludes  my  oretl  testimony.  I  appreciate 
the  opportunity  to  testify  before  you  today.  If  you  have  any  ques- 
tions, I  will  be  happy  to  emswer  them  if  I  can,  or  I  will  submit  the 
answers  later  if  I  am  not  able  to  provide  them  now. 

Thank  you. 

[The  prepared  statement  of  Mr.  Com  appears  at  the  conclusion 
of  the  hearing.] 

Mr.  English.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Com. 

Mr.  F^k. 

STATEMENT  OF  ROBERT  K  FINK,  CHAIRMAN  OF  THE  BOARD, 
COMMODITY  EXCHANGE,  INC. 

Mr.  Fink.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman,  members  of  the  subcommit- 
tee. I  am  pleased  to  have  this  opportunity  to  share  COMFIX's  views 
on  the  Commodity  Futures  Improvements  Act  of  1989. 

Mr.  Chsdrman,  we  would  appreciate  it  if  you  include  in  the 
record  of  these  heftrings  our  written  testimony,  as  well  as  an  ad- 
dendum, that  details  our  reaction  to  some  of  the  bill's  provisions. 
Thiuikyou. 

Mr.  Chairman,  more  them  6  months  ago,  when  it  first  learned  of 
undercover  operations  at  its  two  largest  commodity  exchanges,  the 
U.S,  futures  industry  embarked  on  a  course  to  determine  whether 
current  trade  practices  and  regulatory  methods  promote  and 
defend  l^al  and  ethical  behavior  on  our  trading  floors. 

The  mere  possibility  that  the  investigations  in  Chicago,  and  sub- 
sequently in  New  York,  would  reveal  undetected  misconduct  was 
enough  to  cause  all  of  us,  exchanges  and  regulators  alike,  to  mobi- 
lize in  a  broad  effort  of  self-examination  and  reform. 

At  COMEX.,  we  have  always  viewed  that  process  as  both  healthy 
and  necessary.  It  was  evident  that  despite  possible  failures  in  some 
of  its  parts,  the  system  as  a  whole  and  the  means  by  which  it  heals 
itself  were  working  properly. 

Somewhere  along  the  way,  however,  that  process  got  twisted.  We 
have  been  diverted  from  the  goal  of  honestly  identifying  and  solv- 
ing our  problems.  Investigation  has  given  way  to  guesswork,  analy- 
sis has  caved  in  under  the  weight  of  assumption,  and  honest  solu- 
tions have  been  undermined  by  the  forces  of  expediency  and  com- 
promise. 


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I  am  very  sorry  to  say,  Mr.  Chairman,  that  we  have  before  us 
proposals  for  reform  that  have  as  their  main  virtue  the  appearance 
and  only  the  appearance  of  having  accomplished  something. 

Let  me  begin  with  that  part  of  the  process  designed  to  identiiy 
the  problem.  Six  months  aiter  the  announcement  of  undercover  op- 
erations in  Chicago,  very  little  is  known  about  the  nature  and  con- 
clusions of  those  investigations. 

It  is  difficult  to  understand  how  we  can  be  proposing  reforms 
when  we  have  Eilmost  no  reliable  information  about  the  very  events 
that  launched  us  on  the  course  of  reform. 

Until  we  know  more,  it  is  not  possible  to  say  whether  any  of  the 
potential  misconduct  is  isolated  or  widespread,  nor  is  it  possible  for 
us  to  determine  whether  the  types  of  conduct  which  are  the  subject 
of  the  investigation  were  already  detected  by  exchanges  surroil- 
lance  prc^ams,  and  sanctioned  tlirough  their  disciplinary  process- 
es. 

In  addition,  as  Mr.  Com  has  pointed  out,  the  CFTC  has  proposed 
a  schedule  of  administrative  actions  that  will  deal  with  issues,  such 
as  audit  trail,  dual  trading,  and  the  composition  of  exchange  disci- 
plinary committees  and  governing  boards. 

We  believe  that  the  prudent  course  would  be  to  allow  the  work  of 
the  CFTC  in  these  areas  to  proceed  to  a  conclusion.  The  absence  of 
information  from  the  Federal  investigation  and  the  unfinished 
work  of  both  the  CFTC  and  the  exchanges  themselves  have  com- 
bined to  create  an  atmosphere  in  which  the  problems  are  poorly 
defined  end  the  solutions  are,  in  some  cases  we  believe,  premature 
and  unfocused. 

Instead  of  being  based  on  hard  facts  and  clear  reasoning,  some  of 
the  current  proposals  for  reform  seem  to  come  more  from  a  thirst 
for  action  and  the  perceived  need  for  a  quick  fix  to  complex  issues. 

Our  views  on  the  particular  provisions  of  H.R.  2689  are  detailed 
in  our  written  submission.  Some  of  the  suggested  remedies,  such  as 
those  dealing  with  a  more  efficient  CFTC  reauthorization,  have 
merit.  Others,  such  as  those  dealing  with  the  composition  of  gov- 
erning boards  and  disciplinary  committees,  Eu-e  worthy  of  consider- 
ation, but  should  be  left  to  the  exchanges  if  measures  are  to  be 
anything  more  than  window  dressing. 

Particularly  disquieting,  however,  is  that  some  of  the  proposed 
solutions  not  only  miss  their  vaguely  defined  targets,  but  also  inad- 
vertently score  a  direct  hit  on  vital  and  healthy  parts  of  the  fu- 
tures trading  system. 

Chief  £unong  these,  Mr.  Chairman,  is  the  centerpiece  of  H.R, 
2869,  the  provisions  dealing  with  dual  trading  and  audit  trail.  Mr. 
Chairman,  the  polemics  of  the  dual  trading  debate  have  been  aired 
extensively  in  recent  months. 

I  won't  recite  agfun  the  many  ai^uments  in  favor  of  the  practice. 
On  the  strength  of  these  ailments,  though,  and  in  the  absence  of 
direct  evidence  linking  dual  trading  to  widespread  abuse  of  custom- 
er orders,  the  industiys  system  of  dual  trading  should  be  allowed 
to  continue. 

We  further  believe  that  the  continuation  of  dual  trading  for  an 
exdiange  should  not  be  tied  to  its  audit  trail  performance.  Penaliz- 
ing an  entire  exchange  for  the  failure  of  certain  members  to  main- 


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tain  an  adequate  audit  trail  injures  all  of  its  members  and  custom- 
ers by  restricting  a  practice  that  has  proven  benefits. 

If  a  mfu'or  purpose  of  this  legislation  is  to  tie  the  continued  exist- 
ence of  dual  trading  to  a  verifiable  audit  trail,  we  believe  that  the 
correct  approach  is  the  one  emerging  from  the  joint  COMEX/ 
NYMEX  discussions  on  the  subject. 

In  this  approach,  the  focus  of  enforcement  would  be  on  those  in- 
dividual exchange  members  who  have  failed  to  live  up  to  audit 
trail  standards  established  by  the  CFTC. 

It  would  be  the  job  of  the  exchange  to  enforce  those  standards 
among  its  members,  and  it  would  be  the  job  of  the  CFTC  to  see 
that  the  exchanges  themselves  are  carrying  out  such  enforcement. 
This  combination  of  exchange  enforcement  and  regulatory  over- 
sight is  in  keeping  with  the  or^nal  intent  of  the  self-regulatory 
mandate. 

For  some  months  now,  COMEX  has  had  before  the  CFTC  a  re- 
quest for  a  rule  change  that  would  fillow  our  exchange  to  automati- 
cally sanction  without  the  benefit  of  a  trial  or  hearing  any  member 
whose  time  recordation  is  unsatisfactory. 

We  are  prepared  to  include  in  that  proposed  schedule  of  sanc- 
tions a  measure  to  suspend  the  dual  trading  right  of  any  individual 
member  whose  violations  rise  above  a  threshold  established  by  the 
Commission. 

It  is  our  recommendation  that  legislation  be  enacted  that  would 
require  all  futures  exchanges  to  implement  this  type  of  program. 
We  believe  that  this  is  the  most  direct  and  the  most  effective 
means  of  dealing  with  the  issues. 

COMEX  believes  that  an  effective  audit  trail  is  a  critical  element 
in  the  detection  of  misconduct  on  its  trading  floors.  We  also  expect 
that  if  we  as  an  exchange  fall  short  of  the  standards  required  by 
the  CPFC,  we  will  be  sanctioned  under  the  existing  regulatory 
mechanism. 

We  are  aware  also  that  if  we  fail  to  meet  acceptable  standards  on 
audit  trail  or  any  other  measure,  for  that  matter,  or  if  we  fail  to 
enforce  our  own  rules  in  any  way,  we  are  subject  to  the  punish- 
ment of  sanctions  up  to  and  including  the  revocation  of  our  right  to 
exist  as  a  contract  market. 

Mr.  Chairman,  the  central  question  before  us  is  whether  the  ex- 
change with  CFTC  oversight  can  properly  discipline  themselves.  As 
I  have  stated  in  other  testimony,  the  experience  at  COMEX  tells  us 
that  it  can.  It  can  if  the  exchange  places  rule  compliance  high  on 
its  list  of  operating  priorities.  It  can  if  it  endows  its  compliance 
force  with  independence  of  action,  that  places  it  beyond  the  influ- 
ence of  any  member  or  special  interests,  and  it  can  if  its  discipli- 
nary committees  impose  sanctions  that  make  the  clear  statement 
that  no  matter  how  big  or  small  the  violation  or  the  violator,  mis- 
conduct willnot  be  tolerated. 

There  is  nothing  quick  or  glamorous  about  these  measures.  They 
are  the  standard  elements  of  any  good  rule  enforcement  pn^ram. 
Coupled  with  the  enhance  vigilance  of  the  CFTC,  they  provide  the 
only  sensible  way  to  get  where  we  all  want  to  go — the  elevation  of 
industry  practices  and  the  promotion  of  legal  and  ethical  stand- 
ards. 

Thank  you  very  much,  Mr.  Chairman. 


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[The  prepared  statement  of  Mr.  Fink  appears  at  the  conclusion  of 
the  hearing.] 

Mr.  English.  Mr.  Fink,  I  find  your  interpretation  in  r^ard  to 
what  Congress  intended  or  what  Congress  should  do,  or  what  Con- 
gress' role  is  to  be  rather  interestii^. 

I  noticed  in  your  testimony  on  page  3 — and  I  quote — you  state: 

The  precedent  of  congreasjonal  involvement  in  the  hands-on  regulation  of  these 
markeU,  prior  to  CFTC  action,  is  not  a  course  that  was  contemplated  when  the 
CFTC  waB  established  and  is  a  course  that  has  not  been  followed  to  date. 

I  noticed  on  page  12,  you  state,  "Congress  should  not  be  legislat- 
ing to  combat  a  perception." 

On  page  19,  the  third  pareigraph  dealing  with  disciplinary  com- 
mittees and  the  make-up,  you  state  that  "we  believe  that  this  issue 
of  committee  composition  is  not  a  proper  subrject  for  Federal  legis- 
lation." 

I  guess,  Mr.  Fink,  I  need  to  explain  to  you  a  little  bit  about  how 
the  Congress  operates  and  how  this  law  came  about.  When  this  I^- 
islation  was  created,  the  whole  concept  was  that  it  would  be  reau- 
thorized Eis  a  commission,  to  make  sure  that  the  Commission  was 
carrying  out  the  will  of  Congress  the  way  that  Congress  intended. 

The  whole  concept  behind  that  is  from  time  to  time  to  review 
and  make  sure  the  Commission  has  been  carrying  out  its  duties  as 
it  should  be.  As  far  as  the  issue  of  dual  tradmg  is  concerned,  Mr. 
Fink,  I  want  you  to  understand  that  this  is  something  that  has 
been  underway  for  15  years,  off  and  on,  a  study  has  been  underway 
for  15  years. 

So  this  is  not  something  that  the  Congress  on  the  spur  of  the 
moment  has  thought  up,  nor  this  subcommittee.  This  subcommittee 
has  made  it  very  clear  that  we  intend  to  protect  the  public's  inter- 
est,  we  intend  to  take  action. 

"Fhe  real  question  that  we  come  down  to  is  not  a  question  of 
whether  the  U.S.  Congress,  in  particular  this  subcommittee,  has  ju- 
risdiction and  the  responsibility  to  deal  with  this  matter.  We 
intend  to  do  it  because  we  see  that  eis  our  responsibility. 

So,  I  appreciate  your  opinion  with  regard  to  what  the  Congress 
should  or  should  not  do,  but  I  think  you  should  understand  right 
off  the  top  that  we  see  this  is  our  responsibility,  and  if  at  any  tmie 
and  in  any  way  we  do  not  think  that  the  CFTC  is  cemTing  out  its 
responsibility  in  the  way  that  it  was  intended,  nor  in  the  way  that 
the  Congress  feels  that  it  should  be,  the  Congress  deiinitely  has  the 
right,  and  that  is  the  bottom  line,  Mr.  Fink. 

Mr.  Fink.  Thank  you  for  that  chastisement,  Mr.  Chairman. 

Mr.  English.  Mr.  Coleman. 

Mr,  Coleman.  Mr.  Com,  I  think  your  commente  about  banning 
dual  trading  in  this  country  under  certain  circumstances,  that  no 
orders  could  be  filled  for  U.S.  customers,  and  where  foreign  ex- 
changes do  not  have  a  similar  ban,  some  sort  of  reciprocity  would 
be  in  the  order,  something  that  we  might  want  to  take  a  look  at 
and  see  if  it  is  practiced  or  not. 

But  if  we  get  into  that  game,  I  suppose  then  every  time  that  we 
do  or  do  not  do  something,  that  they  might  do  at  another  exchange 
or  another  counts?,  we  nught  be  getting  ourselves  into  a  real  fast 
loss  here  that  we  may  not  be  able  to  control  I  do  not  know. 


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You  mentioned  sometMng  here  that  we  have  not  seen  before  and 
I  think  we  have  to  consider. 

Mr.  CoKN.  We  just  raised  to  your  consciousness  the  concern  of 
public  protection  should  cut  across  the  entire  playing  field  where 
U.S.  citizens  will  be  participating  in  markets,  especially  those  that 
compete  with  U.S.  meirkets,  euid  it  could  be  to  the  detriment  of  the 
U.S.  markets. 

Mr.  CoLKMAN.  Mr.  Fink,  the  COMEX's  accuracy  of  its  audit  trail 
is  what? 

Mr.  Fink.  I  believe  the  number  the  last  time  that  we  had  a  rule 
enforcement  review  is  87  percent,  sir. 

Mr.  Coleman.  I  understand  that  it  varied  between  84  and  89, 
and  that  the  recent  period  of  review  actually  was  the  lowest  period. 

What  have  you  done  to  increase  the  eiccuracy  of  that  audit  treiil? 

Mr.  FmK.  We  have  taken  two  m^or  steps.  One  is  to  raise  this 
issue  and  the  level  of  oinsciousness  of  our  membership.  We  have 
made  it  clear  to  them  through  notices,  through  disciplinary  actions 
that  have  been  imposed  by  our  supervisory  committee,  that  the  ex- 
change will  not  take  lightly  any  member's  failure  to  properly 
recoil  his  trades. 

In  Eiddition,  we  have,  as  I  mentioned  in  my  testimony,  made  a 
request  to  the  CFTC  in  order  to  expedite  the  entire  process  of  pe- 
nalizing those  people  who  have  failed  to  properly  record  their 
trades,  to  impose  a  schedule  of  summary  actions  that  would  subject 
them  to  punishments  without  the  benefit  of  any  long  and  delayed 
hearings. 

Mr.  CoLEBiAN.  Under  the  current  scheme  of  things,  what  is  the 
incentive  to  your  exchange  to  increase  this  percentile  of  accuracy? 

Mr,  Fink.  Obviously,  we  are  under  the  pressure  of  the  r^ulatory 
authorities  who  conduct  routine  rule  reviews  of  our  recordation 
Bjrstems.  They  have  from  time  to  time  prodded  us  on  to  higher 
standards  since  the  rules  became  effective  in  1986. 

We  have,  in  addition  to  that 

Mr.  Coleman.  Have  they  taken  any  action  against  you? 

Mr.  Fink.  They  have  not  taken  any  action  against  us  as  far  as  I 
am  aware. 

Mr.  Coleman.  They  have  not  failed  to  approve  any  contracts  on 
the  basis  of  your  rate? 

Mr.  Fink.  They  have  not.  I  do  not  believe  that  our  performance 
was  in  any  way  regarded  as  substandard  from  an  industry  perspec- 
tive. 

Congressman  Coleman,  if  I  may  point  out,  that  the  provisions 
initiating  the  1-minute  time  recordation  went  into  eflect  about  2 
years  Eigo.  Despite  appearances  to  the  contreuy,  the  implementa- 
tion of  Uie  practice  is  not  an  entirely  easy  one. 

In  markets  that  are  very  active  and  very  volatile,  recording  that 
extra  bit  of  information  was  a  practice  that  was  not  easily  adjusted 
to  by  our  membership.  We  do  the  beat  we  can  and  we  continue  to 
improve  as  time  has  gone  Inr. 

We  believe  that  a  goal  of  90  percent  in  the  short  term  is  an  easy 
target,  and  we  expect  to  continue  to  improve  in  the  long  run.  TTTbat 
spur  to  improvement  is  being  imposed  on  us,  not  only  by  the  CFTC, 
but  is  being  initiated  on  our  own  behalf  because  we  feel  it  is  in  the 


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best  intereete  of  our  customer  body  to  make  sure  that  an  audit  trail 
is  verifiable. 

Mr.  Coleman.  Well,  I  think  all  three  of  you  have  a  similar  view 
of  this  issue,  and  yet  all  three  of  you  are  concerned  about  things 
moving  offshore. 

It  seems  to  me  that  it  would  be  very  easy  for  you  to  counteract 
that  by  increasing  the  integrity  of  your  individual  markets  so  that 
they  are  above  reproach  and  suspicion  and  question.  By  putting  in 
place  whatever  it  costs  to  put  an  audit  trail  in  that  would  maintain 
the  highest  accuracy,  instead  of  having  to  be  prodded  by  the  Com- 
mission or  we  having  to  do  this  by  legislation  would  be  the  best 
action. 

Mr.  Fink.  I  believe  you  are  right.  COMEX  believes  you  are  right, 
and  as  I  said,  not  only  have  we  been  prodded  by  the  CFTC,  but  we 
have  initiated  our  own  measures  to  get  that  improvement  in  place. 

Mr.  Coleman.  I  must  say  that  all  three  of  you  have  similar 
views,  but,  Mr.  Fink,  you  have  a  way  with  words  that  Mr.  EngU^ 
has  not  chastised  enough.  It  would  be  interesting  to  see  your  next 
testimony  before  our  committee  because  I  have  never  heard  some- 
body go  out  of  their  way  to  throw  sand  in  our  face  here  as  we  are 
trnng  to  work  on  this  legislation. 

The  other  two  gentlemen  had  similar  views,  but  they  at  least  I 
think  made  their  presentation  in  a  fashion  that  one  should,  and 
not  try  to  be  confrontational  or  argumentative.  I  would  just  surest 
that  you  might  take  a  cue  from  these  other  gentlemen  when  you 
come  up  here  again.  It  is  much  better  to  do  it  that  way. 

We  understand  you  hold  views  that  are  sometimes  emotional.  We 
run  into  this  all  the  time  with  these  issues,  but  I  just  think  that 
you  ought  to  do  it  in  a  different  feishion. 

Mr.  Fink.  Congressman  Coleman  and  members  of  the  subcom- 
mittee, I  apologize  if  my  remarks  are  interpreted  as  being  impu- 
dent and/or  uninformed.  If  they  appear  that  way,  they  stem — their 
flavor  stems  entirely  from  a  very  strong  feeling  on  the  part  of 
myself  and  the  part  of  the  exchnnge,  that  there  are  important 
issues  at  stake  here.  We  may  have  made  an  overaggressive  attempt 
to  defend  them. 

Mr.  CouaiAN.  Let  me  also  say  to  all  of  you  that  we  are  very 
mindful  of  your  concerns,  and  we  have  tried  to  address  thoee.  And, 
yes,  we  are  operating  in  an  imperfect  world  and  yes,  we  do  not 
have  the  study  yet  from  the  Commission,  and  yes,  there  has  been 
one  going  on  in  some  fashion  I  guess  for  15  years,  and  yes,  we  do 
not  have  any  indictments  in  Chicago  yet,  and  yes,  we  have  also 
provided  gaping  holes  for  people  to  drive  a  mack  truck  through 
here  if  you  so  desire. 

So,  we  are  trying  to  be  fair  at  the  same  time,  and  I  do  not  think 
that  there  is  anything  in  this  bill  that  is  so  onerous  that  it  is  going 
to  put  people  out  of  business,  or  move  things  offshore,  or  make 
your  life  miserable. 

Dual  trading!  We  have  all  these  things  in  here  for  the  Commis- 
sion to  recognize  and  to  look  at  and  to  be  concerned  about,  and  to 
provide  exemptions  for,  and  I  think  that  the  time  has  come — and 
you  all  have  to  go  outside  the  framework  of  this  committee  and 
subcommittee  and  recognize  that  when  we  go  to  the  floor  of  the 
House,  there  are  other  people  who  are  interested  in  this  subject. 


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who  are  lying  in  wait  down  the  hall  from  here,  who  would  love  to 
have  you  in  front  of  their  committee  right  now,  and  they  do  all 
sorts  of  interesting  bills,  and  so  forth,  and  may  in  fact  have  amend- 
ments to  this  bill  waiting,  I  do  not  know. 

So,  I  would  caution  everybody  who  wants  to  come  in  and  rip  up 
this  l^islation.  We  eire  open-minded  about  suggestions,  we  Imow 
we  do  not  have  a  perfect  product,  but  to  come  in  here  and  just  sug- 
gest that  it  is,  as  Mr.  Guttman  said  here  earlier,  and  others,  that 
somehow  the  premises  are  misshaped  and  put  the  cart  before  the 
horse,  and  all  this  other  stuff,  we  have  tried  to  balemce  that  off 
with  these  exemptions,  giving  the  Commission  flexibility,  and  to 
recc^nize  those  shortcommgs  in  any  piece  of  legislation. 

ll^nk  you. 

Mr.  E^NGLISH.  Let  me  also  say  at  this  particular  point  that  I  have 
taken  note  oi  the  fact  that  each  of  you  three  gentlemen,  and  those 
that  have  preceded  you,  have  failed  to  take  note  of  the  provision  in 
the  law  which  gives  the  CFTC  the  authority,  should  they  find  that 
there  is  undesirable  price  volatility,  unacceptable  widening  of  the 
bid-ask  spreads,  or  otherwise  threatening  to  the  public  interest  pro- 
visions, gives  the  CFTC  that  authority  to  make  that  judgment  not 
to  take  that  action. 

It  seems  to  be  failed  to  he  rect^ized  or  appreciated,  and  I  am 
going  to  be  listening  with  great  interest  as  far  as  the  testimony 
m>m  other  exchanges  and  other  interested  parties.  If  that  fails  to 
be  recognized  and  understood,  if  it  is,  in  other  words,  an  insignifi- 
cant feature,  if  it  has  little  meaning,  I  will  offer  an  amendment  to 
strike  it,  and  we  will  move  on  from  there. 

Ms.  Long. 

Ms.  Long.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman.  I  really  do  not  have  any- 
thing to  add  except  to  say  that  if  the  system  were  working  as  it 
should  be,  and  in  the  best  interest  of  the  public,  we  would  not  be 
holding  these  hearings  and  working  the  long  hours  that  we  are 
worki^  trying  to  find  meaningful  solutions. 

Mr.  English.  Mr.  Tallon. 

Mr.  Tallon.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairmsm. 

Mr.  Com,  you  talked  a  little  bit  about  and  certainly  stimulated 
my  interest  and  Mr.  Coleman's  interest  about  the  overseas  markets 
and  how  they  compete  with  your  exchange,  and  I  think  that  we 
have  determined  through  testimony  today  that  they  do  allow  dual 
trading. 

Could  you  elaborate  on  that  a  little  more? 

Mr.  Corn.  Well,  there  are  approximately  eight  foreign  exchanges 
that  compete  with  the  Coffee,  Swar,  and  Cocoa  Exchange.  The  pre- 
eminent would  be  the  London  Fox  which  trades  in  coffee,  sugar, 
and  cocoa. 

The  coffee  and  cocoa  contracts  Eire  approximately  the  same  size 
in  overall  volume  as  ours,  emd  sugar,  we  Eu*e  significantly  larger 
than  they  are. 

In  the  last  few  years,  the  London  Fox  has  made  significimt 
changes  to  their  contract  to  be  more  competitive  with  ours.  In  par- 
ticular, they  went  from  the  sterling  contract  to  a  dollar  contract 
because  world  sugar  is  priced  against  the  dollar. 

Most  recently,  the  London  Fox  introduced  an  amendment  to 
their  contract  to  add  Cuba  as  a  delivery  point,  which  is  against  the 


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law  here  in  this  country.  Again,  the  reason  was  to  create  a  more 
competitive  situation  against  our  marketplace. 

The  major  commercial  users  of  our  market  £u*e  the  same  m^'or 
commercial  users  of  their  market,  just  as  they  are  with  the  Paris 
Bourse  which  is  now  part  of  the  MATIF.  They  have  direct  commu- 
nications to  those  marketplaces,  like  they  do  to  ours. 

I  think  the  fact  that  our  market  has  grown  in  stature  and 
volume  over  the  years  is  contrary  to  some  of  the  points  I  have 
heard  here,  where  people  are  indicting  what  is  happening  on  tiieee 
markets,  are  making  comments  that  there  is  something  wrong  in 
these  markets  is  just  to  the  contrary. 

It  proves  the  point  that  these  markets  work,  that  these  commer- 
cial interests  believe  these  are  the  most  efficient  and  effective  mar- 
kets in  the  world  for  the  products  that  they  are  trading. 

If  that  were  not  the  case,  we  would  have  lost  volume  to  these 
markets  years  ago,  smd  every  day  that  participEmts,  the  commer- 
cial users  Emd  the  large  public  customers  are  making  a  free  deci- 
sion whether  they  will  trade  here  on  my  market  or  they  will  trade 


Now,  if  I  was  doing  something  wrong,  and  we  were  not  enforcing 
our  rules  properly,  or  in  answer  to  a  question  Mr.  Coleman  asked 
Mr.  Fink  earlier,  the  incentive  for  me  to  have  a  good  audit  trail 
and  to  improve  it,  is  the  fear  that  I  am  going  to  lose  customer  busi- 
ness elsewhere. 

The  int^rity  of  my  market  is  the  most  important  thing  I  have  to 
offer  my  marketplace  and  the  people  who  use  it. 

Mr.  TALLON.  Tliemk  you,  Mr.  Com. 

Mr.  Guttman,  you  mentioned  in  your  testimony,  I  believe,  impor- 
tant differences  among  the  exchanges  and  we  heard  testimony  ear- 
lier from  I  think  the  Kansas  City  Board  of  Trade,  about  some  of 
the  important  differences. 

I  wish  you  would  elaborate  on  that  a  little  bit  more  when  we 
think  about  what  we  Eire  going  to  mandate  as  far  as  time  stamping 
or  audit  trails  or  accuracy  or  whatever  that  we  might  need  to  t^e 
into  consideration  those  tfifferences. 

Mr.  Guttman.  Well,  there  are  certain  procedural  differences  and 
there  are  certain  physical  differences.  If  we  compare  our  exchange, 
NYMEX,  or  any  exchange  in  New  York  compared  to  Chicago,  on 
either  one  of  those  two  exchanges  they  have  both  have  approxi- 
mately 3,000  brokers  on  their  floor  which  shift  among  pits,  so  to 
say. 

In  New  York,  on  the  New  York  Mercantile  Exchange,  we  have 
450  brokers.  In  our  pits  we  trade  enei^,  which  is  crude  oil,  heat- 
ing oil,  or  gasoline,  and  just  like  a  physical  barrel,  a  refiner  takes  a 
barrel  of  crude  oil,  cracks  it  to  get  two  parts  heating  oil,  three 
parts  gasoline. 

As  he  is  performing  that  physical  function,  he  also  performs  the 
paper  function  to  hedge  those  contracts  on  our  exchange,  eo  we 
have  one  broker  that  runs  between  three  rings,  getting  the  pieces 
into  place. 

If  I  take  out,  based  on  the  certain  volume  provisions,  the  dual 
traders  in  our  pit,  Emd  eliminate  150  of  those  brokers,  which  will 
not  be  able  to  perform  that  function  of  moving  between  the  pits  to 
get  my  legs  of  the  trEmsactions  down,  we  feel,  as  an  orgEmization, 


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that  it  will  have  displacement  factors,  which  is  very  important  to 
our  exchange,  and  will  have  the  impact  that  we  are  fearful  of 

You  asked  Mr.  Corn  a  question,  and  I  would  like  to  echo  his  sen- 
timents, if  1  may.  We  trade  energy.  A  barrel  of  crude  oil  literally, 
in  terms  of  heat,  it  has  a  certain  value.  It  is  just  a  question  of  price 
differentials  between  different  brands. 

We  trade  West  Texas  Intermediate  Crude  Oil.  Ten  years  ago  we 
approached  the  industry  and  they  indicated  to  us  that  they  would 
be  interested  in  creating  an  energy  contract  out  of  this.  We  did.  We 
started  trading  crude  oil  and  gasoline. 

The  international  community  has  come  to  our  exchange  to  hedge 
their  Dubai,  their  Brent,  commodities  that  we  do  not  even  trade 
here  in  the  United  States,  whereas,  WTI  is  our  benchmark. 

But  there  is  a  fme  basis  point  that  exists  between  Dubai  and 
WTI,  and  they  are  willing  to  come  into  our  marketplace  and  trade 
WTI  regardless  of  the  fact  that  it  is  not  what  they  are  using.  They 
are  using  something  completely  different;  3^  percent  of  our  daily 
volume  and  open  interest  is  from  foreign  overseas  hedgers. 

We  indicated  or  I  at  least  indicated  in  my  statement,  the  London 
Exchange  has  created  a  parallel  exchange  to  us.  Singapore  has  cre- 
ated an  energy  exchange,  and  the  government  of  Singapore  allows 
10  percent  caps  on  taxes  on  activity  that  is  hedged  off  on  their 
shores.  MITI,  the  Ministry  Industry  of  Trade  and  Finance  has  now 
empowered  a  blue-ribbon  panel  in  Japan  to  explore  their  creation 
of  an  energy  exchange,  smd  now  Rotterdam  in  the  next  couple  of 
months,  is  starting  up  their  own  energy  exchange. 

What  is  happening  is  the  hedging  mechanism  which  we  created, 
we  provided  under  the  CEA,  is  now  being  cloned,  copied  and  com- 
peted with.  Ab  Mr.  Corn  said,  it  is  in  our  best  interest  to  maintain 
that  audit  trail  integrity.  It  is  in  our  best  interest  for  those  custom- 
ers of  our  marketplace  to  come  in  and  get  a  fair  price  for  their  par- 
ticipation, but  they  will  not  come  into  our  marketplace  if  for  some 
reason,  one,  we  cannot  provide  it,  or  items,  such  as^again,  I  do  not 
want  to  say  the  7,000  lots  is  arbitrary,  because  the  provisions  are 
there — but  we  do  not  know  at  what  number  one  could  say  that  the 
markets  will  still  maintain  their  efficiency  if  we  establish  these 
numbers,  and  the  direction  that  the  New  York  Mercantile  Ex- 
change Board  has  taken  the  other  day  to  bring  to  your  attention  is 
let's  get  to  the  root  of  the  problem. 

It  is  the  individual  trader  on  the  floor  that  initiates  the  audit 
trail  system.  He  is  the  first  one  that  writes  down  the  transaction 
on  his  pad.  That  is  the  commencement  of  our  audit  trail  system. 
Let's  go  to  the  root  of  the  problem. 

These  individusils  on  our  floor  have  a  license  to  earn  a  living. 
They  have  a  franchise.  They  have  something  to  protect.  If  they 
know  they  are  threatened,  what  is  about  to  oe  taken  away  from 
^em,  we  wUl  get  their  collective  efforts  through  our  system. 

What  we  are  simply  su^esting  is  hit  the  guys  or  the  individuals 
who  are  causing  this  possible  inability  to  get  to  90  percent  rather 
thim  penalizing  the  entire  institution  from  its  position  in  the  inter- 
nation£iI  community. 

Mr.  Tallon.  Thank  you  very  much,  Mr.  Guttmtm. 

Mr.  Chairman,  If  I  can  ask  a  question  that  will  take  5  seconds  to 
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Mr.  Pink,  what  percentage  of  the  floor  traders  on  COMEX  are 
dual  traders? 

Mr.  Pink.  Based  on  the  sample  of  data  that  was  taken  by  the 
CFTC,  43  percent  as  of  late  1!)SS. 

Mr.  Tallon,  Thank  you. 

Mr.  English.  Mr.  Nagle. 

Mr.  Nagle.  Is  there,  in  the  opinion  of  the  three  of  you.  any  alter- 
natives that  the  exchangee,  the  New  York  exchanges  could  agree  to 
with  r^ard  to  the  chairman's  position  for  the  mark-up  bill  on  dual 
trading,  and  a  complete  laissez-faire,  let's  just  continue  to  do  what 
we  have  done  before?  Is  there  a  method,  is  there  ground  there  be- 
tween the  two  to  meet  both  concerns  over  the  sanctity  of  trading 
and  the  other? 

Mr,  GuTTMAN.  Congressman,  the  New  York  Mercantile  Ex- 
change put  forth  a  proposal  which  we.  at  New  York,  find  common 
ground  on.  I  believe  that  the  Chicago  exchanges,  when  you  will  be 
interviewing  them  on  Thursday,  might  give  it  their  consideration. 

The  emphasis  we  are  now  placing  on  is  rather  than  volume  or 
open  interest  in  any  particular  month,  we  will  look  to  target  in  the 
individuals  that  abuse  the  audit  trail  efficiency  of  our  markets. 

If  we  can  isolate  those  individuals,  those  are  the  individuals 
which  we  would  look  to  penalize.  If  we  can  do  that  effectively,  we 
feel  that  Congress  does  not  have  to  legislate  these  items,  but  set 
the  direction,  instruct  the  CFTC  this  is  where  we  want  to  be,  this  is 
what  we  want  you  to  do,  and  have  the  CFTC  work  with  each  ex- 
change, take  a  look  at  their  audit  trail  systems,  they  are  familiar 
with  our  audit  trail  mechanism,  and  get  it  up  to  a  point  of  eflicien- 
cy  that  is  satisfactory  to  this  particular  committee. 

Once  that  is  done,  mandate  sanctions  for  individuals  who  cannot 
abide  by  those  guidelines.  We  feel  that  Congress,  under  those  cii^ 
cumstances,  can  satisfy  itself  that  if  the  CFTC  gets  together  with 
the  exchai^es,  creates  that  efficiency,  rules  are  mandated  as  to 
whkt  basically  should  be  the  criteria  for  that  efficiency,  and  ulti- 
mately the  floor  individual  who  defies  or  does  not  live  up  to  what 
is  expected  of  him,  he  loses  his  dual  trading  privileges  and  poeedbly 
suspended  from  the  exchange. 

What  we  are  suggesting  is  to  work  it  from  the  bottom  up  to 
achieve  the  objective  of  what  we  are  looking  for. 

Mr.  Nagle.  Mr.  Fink. 

Mr.  Fink.  Congressman  Nagle,  we  agree  in  principle  with  the 
idea  that  is  being  suggested  by  NYMEX.  It  places  the  focus  we  be- 
lieve in  the  appropriate  place,  that  is,  on  the  individual  member 
who  has  gotten  us  into  the  soup. 

Establishing  an  audit  trail  requirement  for  an  exchange  as  a 
whole  will  ultimately  wind  up  measuring  just  an  average.  It  will  do 
nobody  any  good  if  we  have  an  audit  trail  requirement  in  which  90 
percent  of  the  members  have  a  95  percent  compliance,  but  there 
are  a  small  number  of  members,  5  percent  of  the  members  who  are 
at  50  percent. 

Placing  the  blame  on,  placing  the  responsibility  on,  and  provid- 
ing the  incentive  to  the  individual  broker  is  the  way  we  think  we 
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COMEX  is  suggesting  a  refinement  that  suits  its  particular 
needs.  We  are  not  clear  whether  it  is  suitable  to  the  entire  indus- 
try. 

We  have  had  before  the  CFTC  now  for  several  months  a  request 
for  a  rule  change  that  would  allow  us  to  impose  summary  sanc- 
tions, fines,  without  benefit  of  trial  against  those  members  who 
have  failed  to  properly  record  their  trades  and  conform  to  the  ex- 
isting 1-minute  requirement. 

We  are  prepared  to  alter  that  request  for  a  rule  change  to  have 
it  include  a  summary,  automatic  suspension  of  dual  trading  privi- 
leges if  the  violations  for  time  recordation  rise  above  a  certain 
level. 

Mr.  Nagle.  Mr.  Corn. 

Mr.  Corn.  Congressman  Nagle,  I  have  been  spending  the  last  few 
days  of  last  week  and  from  Sunday  on  of  this  week  down  here  in 
Washington.  I  did  not  catch  up  with  the  Merc's  proposal  until 
about  half  an  hour,  about  2  o'clock  when  we  broke  for  recess. 

Since  I  am  only  a  president,  and  not  a  chairman.  I  have  got  to  go 
back  to  my  board  and  bring  this  to  their  attention.  I  am  not  in  a 
position  now  to  agree  in  principle,  but  it  is  something  I  have  jis- 
sured  Lou  and  Bob  that  I  will  bring  to  their  attention  immediately. 
and  we  will  give  it  serious  consideration. 

Mr.  Nagle.  Now,  is  there  a  problem — if  this  has  been  jisked 
before,  then  just  tell  me  and  we  will  move  on — but  is  there  a  prob- 
lem, once  you  find  a  violator  with  the  time  length  that  it  takes  to 
actually  go  through  and  go  against  that  violator  and  take  sanctions 
against  that  violator? 

Mr.  GlHTMAN.  On  the  New  York  Mercantile  Exchange,  we  have 
a  due  process.  The  \-ioIator  has  a  right  to  appeal  it.  In  fact,  it  can 
be  appealed  right  up  to  the  CFTC.  As  long  as  the  CFTC  has,  in 
terms  of  reviewing  it,  it  could  take  a  7-  or  8-month  process. 

I  could  mention  a  case  we  have  on  record  right  now  where  an 
individual  floor  broker  was  fined  S5.000  for  a  violation.  It  went 
through  the  disciplinary  process  on  the  New  York  Mercantile  Ex- 
change. It  has  gone  all  the  way  up  to  the  CFTC.  It  is  9  months.  It 
has  cost  our  exchange,  in  terms  of  outside  legal  bills,  close  to 
316,000  through  this  appeals  process  for  a  $5,000  fine. 

What  we  are  suggesting  over  here  is  if  the  committee  could  work 
with  us  to  achieve  this  particular  proposal,  that  we  employ  a  limit- 
ed due  process  to  these  individuals,  so  they  could  be  fined  quickly, 
expeditiously,  and  not  have  to  take  7  or  8  months  to  get  to  the  end 
result  of  what  we  intend  to  do. 

Mr.  Nagle.  Mr.  Fink. 

Mr.  Fink.  Congressman  Nagle.  we  found  at  COMEX  that  in  the 
vast  majority  of  cases  where  we  have  sought  to  prosecute  people  at 
the  exchange  for  their  failure  to  properly  record  times,  that  the 
data  that  was  used  to  support  those  prosecutions  were  usually  cut 
and  dried,  and  we  found  that  there  was  no  need  to  tie  up  our  disci- 
plinary processes  and  no  need  to  prolong  the  process  by  having  a 
hearing. 

In  the  vast  majority  of  cases,  when  somebody  has  failed  to  con- 
form to  the  audit  trail  standards,  it  is  pretty  obvious  both  to  the 
exchange  and  to  the  person  that  is  violating, 

Mr.  Nagle.  Mr.  Corn. 


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Mr.  Corn.  I  would  say  about  99  percent  of  our  cases  get  settled, 
and  I  would  tend  to  agree  with  Mr.  Fink  that  on  recordkeeping  ^-io- 
lations.  they  are  pretty  cut  and  dried,  because  we  are  able  to  get 
the  information  right  off  of  the  broker's  trading  card  if  he  is  not 
proWding  us  with  the  appropriate  information. 

Mr.  Nagle.  One  of  the  things  that  puzzles  me,  it  seems  like  ev- 
er>'body  has  a  different  auditing  system.  Is  that  fair.  COMEX  is  the 
same  as  Coffee,  Sugar,  Cocoa,  the  same  as  \YMEX?  Does  even.-- 
bodv  have  a  different  auditing  system? 

^lr.  GlTTMAN.  Each  one  of  our  exchanges  has  a  different  system 
of  creating  the  audit  trail.  On  the  New  York  Mercantile  Excliange. 
the  CFTC  asked  us  close  to  10  years  ago  to  come  to  a  1-minute  time 
standard,  which  we  implemented  by  using  what  we  call  a  pit  card 
system. 

It  is  a  pit  card  that  is  the  size  of  a  baseball  card,  and  even,-  trade, 
transaction  by  transaction,  is  recorded  by  the  broker  onto  this  pit 
card  system  and  submitted  immediately  to  an  exchange  official  for 
him  to  clock  the  proper  time  of  the  trade. 

That  card  then  gets  fed  into  the  computer  systems  and  is  dis- 
played on  a  CRT  terminal  throughout  the  floor  for  peer  re\iew  by 
his  fellow  brokers  and  the  compliance  department  as  to  the  tr2ms- 
action  size,  the  price,  and  the  time  the  trade  took  place. 

We  feel  that  this  real-time  transaction-by-transaction  audit  trail 
is  ver>",  ver\-  elTective.  but  it  causes  an  extra  burden  upon  our  bro- 
kers because,  first,  they  have  to  record  it  on  a  pad.  and  take  an- 
other step  and  rerecord  the  transaction  on  a  pit  card. 

We,  based  on  the  CFTC's  re^iew.  are  So.  S6  percent  efficient,  and 
it  is  just  really  a  question  which  the  CFTC,  I  believe,  has  to  decide 
whether  our  S5.  b6  percent,  which  is  recorded  twice,  is  possibly 
more  effective  than  other  system  at  92  percent  which  is  impute<] 
through  some  mathematical  model  in  a  computer. 

So.  on  our  exchange,  we  are  completely  different  from  our  sister 
exchanges  in  New  York,  and  I  assume  are  different  than  our  fellow 
exchanges  in  Chicago,  So.  it  is  really  an  exchange-by-exchange  case 
study  as  to  who  might  give  the  information  in  a  more  uniform 
basis. 

Again,  our  S5.  S6.  on  a  real  time,  minute-by-minute  submission  to 
an  exchange  official,  might  be  more  accurate  than  an  imputed  92. 
93  percent  through  some  mathematical  computer  model. 

Mr.  Naglz.  All  systems  are  different,  my  conclusion  is  correct? 
All  right.  Are  you  permitted  under  CPTC  rules  currently  to  ex- 
change information  on  your  auditing  systems,  do  you  have  a  joint 
commission  that  studies  auditing  systems?  Is  there  a  joint  commis- 
sion between  yourselves  and  the  Chicago  pjeople? 

Mr.  Glttman.  We  have  a  joint  compliance  effort  in  terms  of  co- 
ordinating our  compliance  acti^-ities  amongst  the  exchanges,  but  I 
do  not  know  of  any  joint  efforts  in  terms  of  computerization. 

We  run  our  svstems  on  a  Tandem.  I  believe  that  COMEX  runs 
theirs  on  an  IBM.  Some  other  exchange  might  run  it  on  Digital 
Equipment,  The  hardware  and  the  procedures,  the  way  we  gather 
the  information  are  different. 

Mr.  Nagle.  The  thing  I  was  curious  about — and  as  Mr.  Fink  and 
Mr,  Com  responded — if  somebody  is  building  a  better  mousetrap, 
do  CFTC  regulations  currently  enable  you  to  exchange  that  infor- 


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pliance  responsibilities.  This  regulatory  framework  Is  considerably 
broader  in  scope  than  applicable  to  most  any  other  CFTC  r^[is- 
trants. 

All  this  leads  NAFTA  members  to  believe  more  vigorous  enforce- 
ment of  existing  futures  industry  regulations  may  be  more  effective 
in  preventing  abuses  than  increased  regulatory  layers  of  ethics 
training.  This  is  in  large  part  due  to  NAFTA's  concern  that  serious 
problems  must  be  very  carefully  considered  in  developing  any  regu- 
lations to  implement  such  a  requirement.  Would  this  requirement 
create  a  fmancial  hardship  on  individuals  in  smaller  firms,  for  ex- 
ample, by  imposing  travel  to  central  locations  for  initial  or  refresh- 
er training  sessions? 

For  these  kinds  of  reasons,  NAFTA  urges  extreme  care  in  craft- 
ing any  ethics  regulations,  and  we  commit  our  full  assistance  to 
the  CFTC  for  that  purpose.  In  fact,  NAFTA  could  undertake  to  pro- 
vide any  such  required  training  for  its  members  and  would  encour- 
age Congress  to  suggest  such  an  approach  for  members  of  NAFTA 
and  other  similar  trade  associations. 

Mr.  Chairman,  we  appreciate  the  opportunity  to  present  the 
views  of  our  association,  and  I  will  be  happy  to  answer  any  ques- 
tions. 

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sion of  the  hearing.] 

Mr.  Engush.  Thank  you  very  much,  Mr.  Isaacson.  I  appreciate 
that, 

I  did  not  hear  you  make  any  reference  to  the  provisions  that  we 
have  in  there,  for  instance,  the  provision  that  says  that  customers, 
if  they  so  wished  their  broker  to  continue  in  the  capacity  of  dual 
trading,  they  can  give  that  approval.  That  decision  rests  solely  with 
the  customer. 

We  feel  that  he  should  have  that  right  to  make  that  decision.  We 
also,  of  course,  did  not  hear  any  comment  with  regard  to  the  ele- 
ments contained  in  the  bill  that  states  that  the  Commission  has  the 
right  to  suspend  dual  trading,  or  should  reinstate  dual  trading  on 
any  contract,  or  not  even  ban  dual  trading  on  any  contracts  should 
they  find  that  it  creates  undesirable  price  volatility  or  unaccept- 
able widening  of  the  bid-ask  spreads,  or  otherwise  threatens  the 
public  interest — public  interest,  that  is  pretty  broad. 

I  guess  I  am  having  trouble  understanding  why  you  and  others 
did  not  make  reference  to  this.  It  would  appear  to  me  that  these 
would  be  elements  that  you  would  want  in  this  legislation,  that  you 
would  want  to  continue  to  see  included. 

Mr.  Isaacson.  Our  perspective  may  be  slightly  different  than  the 
typical  speculative  customer  who  may  feel  he  has  been  hurt  by 
dual  trading  in  the  past. 

Most  of  us  who  have  been  in  the  business  for  some  time,  and  are 
managing  rather  large  sums  of  money,  know  the  brokers  on  the 
floor  that  we  are  doing  business  with  and  have  done  business  with 
over  a  long  period  of  time. 

One  of  the  processes  that  we  go  through  as  we  select  a  broker  to 
execute  our  trades  is  we  get  to  know  that  person.  And  we  have  a 
feel  for  his  ethics.  Our  concern  is  not  that  dual  trading  may  b© 
wrong  or  may  be  right.  Our  concern  is  that  at  some  point  it  im- 


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pacts  on  the  people  we  are  doing  business  with  on  the  floor,  it  im- 
pacts on  the  customers  we  represent. 

Mr.  Engush.  Let's  follow  that  a  Uttle  bit.  Let's  say  that  you  have 
got  this  broker  out  there  and  he  trades  for  himself,  as  well  as  for 
his  customers.  This  legislation  becomes  law.  Basically,  he  then 
sends  you  a  piece  of  paper  which  states  that  you  sign  off  and  agree 
that  you  recognize  and  understand  that  he  is  trading  both  for  him- 
self and  for  you,  and  that  you  give  him  the  authority  to  continue  to 
act  in  that  guise. 

Now,  tell  me  what  is  different,  then,  from  that  point  on  in  the 
way  he  treats  you  and  the  way  it  is  today. 

Mr.  Isaacson.  There  is  nothing  different  from  our  point  of  view. 
I  guess  the  major  problem  we  have  with  the  elimination  of  dual 
trading  is  that  it  may  not  eliminate  some  of  the  other  problems 
that  exist  on  the  trading  floor.  Some  of  the  other  problems  that 
exist  will  likely  be  eliminated  as  a  result  of  better  audit  trails. 

Mr.  English.  That  is  fine  and  we  are  certainly  willing  to  go  after 
other  problems,  but  we  are  dealing  with  this  particular  problem 
right  now. 

Mr.  Isaacson.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  English.  I  guess  what  I  am  trying  to  walk  you  through,  I  am 
trying  to  find  exactly  where  this  problem  is  that  exists. 

Now.  you  have  on  the  one  hand,  for  you,  you  say  it  does  not 
make  any  difference,  because  you  know  your  broker,  you  do  not 
care  whether  the  guy  is  trading  for  himself  and  for  his  customer  at 
the  same  time,  but  we  have  got  other  customers  that  may  very  well 
object  to  that,  and  should  they  not  be  given  the  opportunity  to  say 
no,  I  do  not  want  this  guy  that  I  am  doing  business  with  to  trade 
for  himself  at  the  same  time  he  is  trading  for  me,  should  they  not 
have  that  right? 

Mr.  Isaacson.  Sure,  We  think  that  they  should  have  that  right. 

Mr.  English.  So  that  provision,  you  would  agree  with? 

Mr.  Isaacson.  That  provision  we  would  agree  with.  The  way  it 
should  be  structured  perhaps  is  that  if  there  is  a  floor  broker  who 
is  dual  trading  and  he  says  he  is  dual  trading — and  my  counsel's 
interpretation  may  not  be  your  interpretation — but  once  a  person 
starts  dual  trading,  and  they  tell  the  customer  they  are  dual  trad- 
ing, that  is  it.  There  does  not  have  to  be  any  ongoing  type  of  com- 
munication with  the  customer  about  dual  trading. 

Mr.  Engush.  Once  he  has  signed  off  and  made  that  determina- 
tion, yes,  that  is  correct.  Certainly  the  broker  can  go  back  and 
forth.  He  may  decide  one  day  he  wants  to  trade  for  himself  and  an- 
other day  he  is  going  to  trade  for  the  customer,  that  is  fine. 

Mr.  Isaacson.  We  have  no  problem  with  that. 

Mr.  English.  Then,  the  next  question,  I  would  assume  that  any 
problem  that  you  have  with  regard  to  any  impact  it  might  have  on 
the  markets. 

Mr.  Isaacson.  We  have  a  problem  if  it  involves  liquidity,  if  for 
some  reason  it  puts  other  traders  out  of  the  market,  if  it  puts  dual 
traders  out  of  the  market  who  do  not  represent  commodity  trading 
advisors  and  pool  operators. 

Mr.  English.  Then,  the  question  with  regard  to  liquidity,  does 
that  then  not  also  fit  into  the  action  that  the  CFTC  can  take  with 
regard  to  allowing  dual  trading  when  we  talk  about  undesirable 


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price  volatility,  unacceptable  widening  of  the  bid-ask  spreads,  or 
otherwise  threatens  public  interest? 

Certainly  I  would  not  think  the  CFTC  would  think  that  the 
elimination  of  liquidity  is  in  the  public  interest,  would  they? 

Mr.  Isaacson.  No,  I  do  not  think  so. 

Nfr.  EbfOLiSH.  So,  that  takes  care  of  that  problem,  does  it  not? 

Mr.  Isaacson.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  English.  Then,  tell  me  where  the  problem  is. 

Mr.  Isaacson.  Our  problem,  I  think  is  more  in  a  paperwork  type 
of  situation  find  a  l<^istical  type  of  situation. 

Mr.  English.  Paperwork? 

Mr.  Isaacson.  From  our  perspective,  we  do  not  think  the  system 
is  not  working.  We  think  the  system  is  operating  just  fine  right 
now.  We  do  not  have  a  problem  with  the  way  trades  are  executed. 

Mr.  English.  I  guess,  then,  what  you  are  telling  me  is  you  do  not 
really  have  an  objection  to  what  we  are  doing  in  this  provision,  I 
mefui  there  is  nothing  that  you  come  up  with  to  say  that  in  any 
way  this  is  going  to  cause  a  problem,  it  is  basically  you  prefer 
things  are  eis  they  are,  as  opposed  to  going  to  a  new  approach,  is 
that  right? 

Mr.  Isaacson.  We  do  not  think  the  new  approach  necessarily 
eliminates  the  problems  that  we  see  on  the  trading  floor  on  a  day- 
to-day  basis. 

Mr.  Encush.  But  you  agree  or  at  least  you  ciinnot  come  up  with 
now  fmy  problems  that  it  creates? 

Mr.  Isaacson.  No,  but  what  we  are  saying  is  you  are  institutit^ 
a  new  measure  that  is  different,  and  we  are  not  sure  what  the 
impact  is  going  to  be:  If  it  has  a  substantial  impact  on  our  clients, 
because  liquidity  is  impaired 

Mr.  English.  But  we  have  already  given  the  CFTC  that  author- 
ity to  deal  with  that,  have  we  not? 

Mr.  Isaacson.  If  they  act  rapidly. 

Mr.  English.  And  if  the  CFTC  has  any  doubt  in  their  mind,  cer^ 
tainly  they  are  not  going  to  do  anything  that  is  going  to  be  hairnfiil 
to  that  contract,  are  they? 

Mr.  Isaacson.  Harmful  to  the  contract,  maybe  harmful  to  liquidi- 
ty, I'm  not  sure.  I'm  not  sure  how  fast  they  would  make  a  decision. 

Mr.  Engush.  If  they  have  the  authority  to  do  it,  they  can  do  it 
instanteneous,  could  they  not? 

Mr.  Isaacson.  Well,  as  Congressman  Colemem  said,  sometimes 
the  reality  of  idealism  is  not  always  there.  Sometimes  it  may  be 
idealistic  that  they  will  act  right  away.  However,  it  may  be  a  sig- 
nificant period  of  time  before  they  act,  and  if  that  affecte  liquidity, 
and  it  affects  some  of  the  commodity  pools  or  some  large  sums  of 
money  that  are  being  managed  in  the  market,  even  for  a  short 
period  of  time,  it  can  have  a  detrimental  impact  on  NAFTA  mem- 
bers and  their  clients. 

Mr.  English.  So,  bfisically  what  we  are  faced  with,  in  your  opin- 
ion, the  question  of  the  tradeoff  comes  down  to  trading  off  the  cus- 
tomer's right  not  to  use  a  broker  who  is  involved  in  dual  trading, 
to  not  to  take  action  to  do  anything  that  may  eliminate  some  of  the 
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That  is  on  one  hand,  but  on  the  other  hand,  in  your  opinion, 
what  outweighs  that  is  the  fact  that  CFTC  may  not  act  responsi- 
bly? 

Mr.  Isaacson.  I  am  not  saying  they  may  not  act  responsibly.  I 
am  saying  they  might  not  act  in  a  timely  manner. 

Mr.  English.  That  would  be  responsible,  would  it  not? 

Mr.  Isaacson.  They  may  have  a  different  opinion  of  what  is  re- 
Bponsible  thfui  I  do. 

Mr.  ENGLISH.  Mr.  Coleman. 

Mr.  Coleman.  No  questions. 

Mr.  English.  Mb.  Long. 

Ms.  Long.  No  questions. 

Mr.  English.  Mr.  Nagle. 

Mr.  Nagle.  Just  for  my  own  education,  if  I  could. 

If  I  approached  your  company  and  said  that  I  wanted  you  to 
handle  my  purchases,  and  I  did  not  want  someone  handling  the 
purchases  who  is  engaged  in  dual  trading,  would  that  be  done  cur- 
rently? 

Mr.  Isaacson.  We  are  more  similar  to  eui  investment  advisor 
than  a  floor  broker.  You  would  come  to  me  emd  say  I  would  like 
you  to  manage  my  futures  account  and  I  have  a  preference  for 
what  broker  to  use.  We  would  call  the  broker  that  you  said  to  use. 

Mr.  Nagle.  In  the  industry  itself,  if  I  called  for  a  broker  and  said 
I  want  you  to  trade  my  account  for  me,  I  do  not  want  you  to 
engage  in  dual  trading,  is  that  done?  In  other  words,  is  there  addi- 
tionfd  cost,  under  current  practices  of  the  various  exchanges,  if  I 
request  that  dual  trading  not  take  place,  is  there  eui  additional  cost 
to  me,  do  I  have  to  pay  an  additional  fee,  or  is  there  an  impedi- 
ment to  my  getting  access  to  the  markets? 

Mr.  Isaacson.  I  think  that  depends  on  how  big  of  a  client  you 
are.  If  you  trade  one  contract  of  wheat  and  one  contract  of  com, 
and  you  went  to  the  brokerage  firm  and  said  I  would  like  to  know 
if  the  broker  was  dual  trading  or  not,  they  might  give  you  that 
option,  they  might  not.  It  might  not  be  cost  effective  for  them  to  do 
that. 

I  would  guess  the  bulk  of  our  members'  feeling  is  that  when  you 
use  a  person  who  is  not  trading  for  themselves,  they  are  not  as  ex- 
perienced nor  as  qualified  as  someone  who  is  dual  trading. 

Mr.  Nagle.  Hang  on  just  1  second.  I  thought  you  said 

Mr,  Isaacson.  If  you  are  referring  to  where  I  spoke  about  extra 
cost,  added  cost  of  dual  trfiding,  we  feel  that  there  could  be  added 
costs  because  floor  brokerage  would  likely  increase. 

Mr.  Nagle.  "NAFTA  believes  dual  trading  should  be  allowed  to 
continue  subject  to  disclosure  to  customers  that  a  broker  intends  to 
trade  for  his  own  eiccount.  Existing  CFTC  regulations  require  just 
such  disclosure  to  prospective  customers  of  commodity  training  ad- 
visors and  commodity  pool  operators.  This  disclosure  would  allow  a 
customer  to  choose  for  himself  without  the  market  having  to  suffer 
the  cost  I  have  just  described." 

I  guess  my  question  is  currently:  If  I  am  the  average  farmer  out 
there  with  100  acres  of  com,  and  I  want  to  go  in  and  use  the 
market,  if  I  am  raising  1,000  hogs  a  year,  marketing  1,000  h(^  a 
year,  can  I  without  extra  cost,  without  extra  penalty,  or  without 


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Idr.  Isaacson.  I  cannot  answer  that  question.  That  is  a  different 
area  than  we  deal  in.  If  you  came  to  my  firm  and  you  wanted  to 
open  an  account  with  me  as  a  trading  advisor,  I  would  have  to  give 
you  about  an  18-page  risk  disclosure  document  that  would  tell  you 
among  other  things  if  we  were  trading  for  our  own  account. 

I  would  imagine  if  a  farmer  wanted  an  individual  that  was  not 
dual  tradit^  on  the  floor  he  would  probably  pay  some  premium 
somewhere  along  the  way. 

Mr.  Naglb.  Let  me  iisk  you  this.  If  you  went  to  the  disclosure 
requirement,  would  that  cost  then  be  passed  on  to  the  customer 
who  opts  not  to  have  a  trader  engaged  in  dual  trading,  as  you  envi- 
sion it  under  your  testimony  on  page  4? 

Mr.  Isaacson.  I  think  there  is  a  potential  for  increased  conmiis- 
sion  cost,  increased  cost  to  the  ciutomer  if  he  uses  a  trader  who  is 
trading  just  for  clients,  and  is  not  dual  trading. 

Mr.  Naglb.  In  terms  of  the  action  that  this  committee  should 
take — I  listened  to  Mr.  English's  questions  very  closely,  and  what 
Mr.  English  has  basically  done  has  required  an  affirmative  act  on 
the  ptLrt  of  the  customer  to  permit  dual  treiding,  euid  the  customer 
has  to  say  it  is  OK  to  dual  trade — would  you  envision  under  that, 
that  would  be  additional  cost  to  the  customer? 

Mr.  Isaacson.  1  would  envision  that  if  the  customer  said  I  want  a 
trader  who  is  not  dual  trading,  I  want  a  floor  broker  who  is  ju^ 
trading  for  customers,  that  there  would  be  increased  cost  to  the 
customer. 

Mr.  Nagle.  What,  in  your  mind,  would  be  the  difference  between 
requiring  an  affirmative  act  by  the  customer  to  permit  dual  tcBd- 
ing  and  an  affirmative  act  b^  the  customer  not  to  permit  dual  trad- 
ing? Would  there  be  any  difference? 

In  other  words,  instead  of  my  bein^  required  to  say  yes,  you  may 
dual  trade,  I  could  say,  unless  I  said  I  do  not  want  you  to  dual 
trade,  you  would  be  permitted  to  do  so,  is  there  a  distinction  there 
in  terms  of  either  cost  or 

Mr.  Isaacson.  No,  I  think  that  a  customer  should  be  alerted  to 
the  fact  if  there  is  a  potential  conflict  of  interest  and  the  cost  may 
be  more.  The  customer  should  be  made  aware  of  that. 

We  think  that  full  disclosure  is  the  way  to  go.  Then  let  the  cus- 
tomer make  his  choice.  I  am  not  understanding  your  question  be- 


Mr.  Nagle.  No,  you  are,  you  are  doing  a  good  job. 

Let  me  ask  you  this.  It  is  the  last  question.  I  may  take  you  on 
this  one  beyond  the  area  of  your  expertise.  But  if  I  wanted  to  trade 
on  COMEX  currently  today,  and  I  did  not  want  to  have  dual  trad- 
ing, is  there  an  additioneil  cost  for  me  to  do  that  by  the  broker? 

Mr.  Isaacson.  When  you  say  eui  additional  cost,  do  you  mean  an 
additional  commission  cost? 

Mr.  Nagle.  Yes. 

Mr.  Isaacson.  When  I  say  additioned  cost,  I  mean  there  may  also 
be  additionfil  hidden  costs  because  the  person  who  is  trading  only 
for  customers  may  not  be  as  effective  in  getting  good  execution  for 
the  client  as  the  person  who  is  dual  trading. 

Mr.  English.  Why  is  that? 


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Mr.  Isaacson.  Because  the  person  who  is  dual  tradii^  has  the  po- 
tential of  mnlcing  income  off  trading  for  his  own  account.  A  person 
-who  is  trading  just  for  customers,  who  is  getting  50  cents  or  75 
cents  or  $1  a  trade,  is  doit^  that  because  he  may  not  be  as  effective 
in  the  pit  as  a  person  who  also  trades  for  his  own  account. 

It  is  the  law  of  suppljr  and  demand,  and  he  is  going  to  be  the 
most  effective  in  gaining  income  for  himself. 

Mr.  Nagu.  I  do  not  understand  why  that  is. 

I  yield  to  the  Chairman. 

Aur.  English.  I  guess  the  only  point  that  I  want  to  make,  of 
course,  that  would  oe  yourperception  as  it  is  now,  the  feeling  that 
that  is  the  way  it  is  now.  Would  it  not  be  true,  though,  that  if  the 

Erovisions  of  this  legislation  became  law,  then  each  day  that  same 
roker  is  going  to  have  to  decide  whether  on  that  day  he  wemts  to 
trade  for  customers  or  whether  he  wants  to  trade  for  himself? 

Mr,  Isaacson.  My  perception  is  that  on  the  floor 

Mr.  EnOUSH.  In  other  words,  we  are  going  to  have  all  these  good 
traders  that  are  going  to  be  available  to  be  able  to  trade  for  cus- 
tomers, so  in  effwt,  we  are  going  to  be  helping  all  these  fine  cus- 
tomers out  there  that  do  not  wemt  dual  traders. 

Mr.  Isaacson.  My  perception  is  that  I  want  the  person  that  is 
trading  for  himself  also  because  I  have  a  belief  that  he  is  a  more 
effective  broker  than  one  who  is  just  trading  for  customers. 

Mr.  English.  But  you  agree  there  are  people  on  the  other  side, 
who  take  the  other  side  and  say,  hey,  I  do  not  trust  that  guy  who  is 
going  to  be  trading  for  himself  at  the  same  time  he  is  trading  for 
me?  If  it  comes  down  to  the  interest  as  to  who  is  going  to  get  the 
good  deal  and  who  is  not,  you  know,  he  gets  the  good  deal  and  I  get 
stuck,  and  I  never  know  the  diiference. 

That  is  what  the  fear  is  for  some  people,  correct? 

Mr.  Isaacson.  That  is  right. 

Mr.  English.  So,  it  is  opinion. 

Mr.  Isaacson.  That  is  right,  just  so  the  customer  knows  what  he 
is  getting  into.  We  have  never  taken  the  time  to  quantify  it,  and 
we  certainly  do  not  have  the  resources  to  quemtify  it — but  if  you 
look  at  trading  advisors  that  are  putting  orders  through  several  dif- 
ferent brokerage  firms,  the  sfime  orders  at  the  same  time,  there 
might  be  a  way  to  quantify  the  effectiveness  of  traders.  Many  trad- 
ing advisors  keep  a  record  of  which  brokenige  house  gives  them  the 
best  fills.  You  could  perhaps  look  and  see  which  brokers  were  dual 
trading. 

Mr.  E]nglish.  I  thank  the  gentleman  for  yielding. 

Mr.  Nagle.  I  thank  the  chairman.  My  time  hsa  expired. 

Mr.  English.  I  guess  just  one  other  follow-up  on  that  point.  The 

Iuestion  comes  down  as  to  how  to  handle  the  issue  on  dual  tradit^. 
7e  are  talking  about  the  way  that  this  bill  is  written.  In  ex- 
changes, there  may  be  some  contracts  where  dual  trading  is  al- 
lowed, simply  because  of  the  volume. 

There  may  be  aome  contracts  in  which  dual  trading  is  allowed 
simply  because  the  CFTC,  for  reasons  of  liquidity,  or  whatever  it 
may  be,  feels  like  that  is  necessary.  There  may  be  some  contracts 
where  dual  trading  is  banned  in  certain  times  of  the  year  because 
of  the  activity  and  the  way  that  that  particular  contract — all  of 
that  flexibility  is  built  into  the  provisions  under  this  law.  It  also 


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states  that  a  person  then  who  is  involved  in  dual  trading,  if  the 
customers  that  he  has — and  I  have  one,  a  good  friend  of  my  family 
back  in  Oklahoma  who  says  gosh,  I  have  been  using  tajs  same 
broker  for  years,  1  trust  him,  I  believe  in  him,  and  I  want  to  use 
him,  I  do  not  care  whether  he  is  trading  for  himself  or  not,  fine, 
they  can  go  ahead  and  sign  off  and  they  are  taken  care  of. 

But  for  all  those  people  out  there  who  do  not  know  that,  who  do 
not  feel  confident  of  that  kind  of  a  system,  all  those  people  who  are 
going  trough  various  orgauiizations  that  are  handling  them,  and 
putting  them  tc^ether,  they  do  not  have  any  say  in  mis  in  many 
cases. 

A  lot  of  people  do  not  have  £my  say  aa  to  who  their  broker  is,  do 
they? 

Mr.  Isaacson.  I  do  not  understand.  Why  wouldn't  they  have  a 
say  in  who  their  broker  is? 

Mr.  English.  Well,  if  they  are  trading  with  Merrill  L^ch  or 
someone  like  that,  now,  there,  as  an  individual,  I  will  go  m  there 
and  they  are  not  going  to  know  who  the  broker  is,  are  they? 

Mr.  Isaacson.  Well,  I  would  assume  they  will  now  if  the  provi- 
sions of  the  bill  go  into  effect. 

Mr.  English.  But  I  am  talking  about  today,  as  it  is. 

Mr.  Isaacson.  No,  they  do  not. 

Mr.  English.  And  they  have  no  say  about  it  today. 

Mr.  Isaacson.  Probably  not,  but  they  do  not  care  enoi^h  to  in- 
quire. 

Mr.  English.  And  most  people  do  not,  do  they? 

Mr.  Isaacson.  They  do  not. 

Mr.  English.  That  is  the  reaUty-  ^  guess  what  I  am  coming 
around  to,  it  would  appear  to  me  when  you  add  up  all  these  ele- 
ments, all  these  provisions,  there  is  a  tremendous  amount  of  flexi- 
bility in  here  to  meet  an  awful  lot  of  different  situations. 

Basically,  what  we  come  down  to  is  the  bottom  line,  is  that 
people  who  do  not  feel  comfortable  in  having  a  broker  that  is  deal- 
ing for  himself  at  the  same  time  he  is  dealing  for  ^em,  they  are 
going  to  be  protected. 

It  basicfdly  says  that  for  thoee  cases — and  we  are  t,alking  about 
those  markets  with  a  lot  of  volume,  a  lot  of  action,  fast  trading— 
and  whenever  we  talk  about  these  percentages,  when  we  are  deal- 
ing about  these  percentages  emd  we  say,  well,  it  has  got  an  86  per- 
cent reliability  factor,  or  even  a  95  percent,  we  are  not  t^>lking 
about  every  contract  in  every  minute  of  that  day. 

There  is  some  parts  of  the  day  it  is  probably  going  to  be  a  whole 
lot  more  reliable,  euid  other  parts  of  the  day  it  is  going  to  be  nearly 
as  reliable. 

If  we  are  talkii^  about  abuses  that  are  going  to  be  taking  place, 
the  time  that  it  is  going  to  happen  is  when  there  is  a  lot  of  action 
most  likely,  a  lot  of  action,  a  lot  of  activity,  hard  to  keep  track  of, 
hard  to  watch,  cmd  it  is  not  going  to  be  during  the  rest  of  the  day. 

It  may  be  in  the  first  few  minutes  of  each  day,  it  may  be  in  the 
last  few  minutes  of  each  day,  and  that  is  basically  what  this  bill 
and  those  provisions  deeds  with,  is  that  not  correct? 

Mr.  Isaacson.  A  lot  of  the  things  that  you  are  referring  to  in 
■  those  first  few  minutes  and  last  few  minutes  such  as  curb  trading 
or  wash  trading  are  not  going  to  be  eliminated  by  letting  the  cus- 


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tomers  make  their  choice  of  whether  they  want  a  dual  trader  or 
not. 

I  think  the  only  way  to  ehminate  those  problems  is  with  better 
audit  trails,  increased  ethics  and  more  vigorous  surveillance  of  the 
floor. 

Mr.  English.  We  agree  with  you  100  percent.  What  we  are 
simply  saying,  though,  is  that  under  the  dual  trading  provisions, 
and  whenever  you  get  all  these  people,  and  you  get  a  lot  of  folks 
going,  it  is  tougher,  it  is  tougher  on  the  sj^tem,  and  places  more 
demands  on  the  system. 

All  we  are  saying  is,  give  us  a  better  system,  give  us  a  system  in 
which  we  can  nu^e  sure  that  we  can  idenUiy  those  kinds  of 
abuses,  fine,  go  ahead  and  dual  trade.  I  do  not  have  a  problem  with 
it  philosophically,  fine,  let's  just  make  sure  that  we  can  identify  it. 

I  guess  that  is  where  I  am  comii^  from  at  least. 

Gosh,  I  appreciate  your  testimony. 

Mr.  Isaacson.  Thank  you  for  listening. 

Mr.  English.  You  did  a  good  job.  It  is  a  pleasure  to  have  you  as  a 
witness. 

Mr.  Isaacson.  Thank  you. 

Mr.  English.  We  will  recess  subject  to  the  call  of  the  Chair. 

[Whereupon,  at  5:25  p.m.,  the  subcommittee  was  adjourned,  sub- 
ject  to  the  call  of  the  Chair.) 

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r«nd«ted  by  propai 
whara  ■  ganuln*  •< 
iHJor  lagBantt  of 
Tha  SEC  had  accoapJ 


(till  thtnk  thara  1 
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3  that  confldanea 


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i*hed  a 


laiuring  intaqrity 


Ekat  and  tfaa  tuturaa  raaponi 
Ignad  to  thair  Juiladlctlon 
or  producaia  and  proceaaoEi 
(tlnq  □(  riak  [or  b«*ic  coum 
Lto  orqanitatlon  Hith  pilsary 

than  aacutttlaa.  Tha  prlncipi 
ulata  coiKodiCy  futuiaa,  not  I 
indicated  by  Cha  fact  tha  new 
Putuiaa  tiading  CoaBlailon, 


thair  fauK 


tha  latei 
trading  thi 


financial  fututaa  and  optlona  and  davotad  proportionataly 
raaourcaa  to  tha  coamodltiei  and  haa  In  ay  opinion 
adequataly  with  tagard  to  conanoditlaa.   Although 


laaded  to  aiaura  Intagrity  in  tha 
>  liH  prior  to  tha  linal  enactsai 


COB  tha  aichangaa  thoaa  shoctcaainqi 
Again,  I  congratulata  you  for  >akli 
il  aarioua  effort  ao  far  (inca  tha  Act  hi 
il  affectively  with  thla  inportint  aubli 
candal  which  haa  divalopad  In  Chicago  vi: 
naadad  aiaendiiienta  including  banning 


originally 
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oTlqinall)F  t>ais«d.  rapre 


[  the  noit  vlmibl*  probleiai  aff^etin?  tha  Integrity 
hange*  and  Cha  publlc'a  confldonca  In  tha  uikatt 

Cor  thalr  own  accounts  at  tha 
lor  cuitoawra  ia  laplata  olth 
of  i 

•  Ceawodity  r 
■  axchangaa  auccaaatully  lobblad  (or  an  axcaptlon  with 
euaa  that  it  was  naadad  Cor  liquidity.   Baeh  tlma  tha 
■  b«<n  caauthorliad  alnca  than  thay  hava  aought  and  racalvaf 
acna  additional  tlaa  oith  tha  axcuaa  thay  naad  tlna  I9i   anothar 
study  or  that  thay  Hill  pacfaet  aona  luprovanwnt  in  tha  audit 
SoH  «van  uaad  tha  axcusa  that  ainee  crlninal  chaatlng 
tradara  had  not  baan  provan,  wa  (hould  aaauma  naithar 
1  chaatlnq  nor  rulaa  violatlona  wera  occurring.   Sinca 
■ding  Haa  not  prohibltad  and  tha  avtdanca  of  fraud  and 
naplracy  »••  aitranaly  difficult  to  aoqulra,  criminal  acta 
)  not  be  provan  without  a  Hjor  and  anttanty  difficult 
and  ccatly  law  anforeeaient  ating  opacationi  but  that  haa  noo 
baan  accoB[liahad  *o  any  claim  that  abuiea  may  not  b*  ■  problao 
la  no  longar  an  axeuia.   Othara  claimad  a  battar  audit  trail 
■ould  protact  cuatomara  but  the  Exchanqei  vlgcroualy  opposed 
even  nodaat  l^rovamanta  in  tha  audit  tcall  ayatam  propoaad 
by  tha  crtC.   Tha  flocr  tradaca  thaaaelvaa  hava  no  faith  in 
tha  ability  of  the  exchangaa  to  detect  and  prevent  cheating 
•a  evidenced  Hhan  I. 000  flocr  traders  two  yaaii  age  signed  a 
pacition  to  hold  a  nambaishlp  referendum  on  a  propoaal  to  prohibit 
dual  trading  in  stock  Index  futuraa  and  options. 

Until  the  old  horsa  and  buggy  mathq^  of  dealing  in  tha 
pita  haa  baan  replaced  by  a  fully  ImplaiaBntad  system  of  computariied 
trading  vhich  permit*  a  custcner  located  In  a   bioker's  office 
in  any  ststa  to  knew  lasiMdistely  whether  ha  ha*  matched  an  offer 
or  hla  offer  haa  been  natehed,  there  ahould  be  no  mora  than 
one  exception  to  a  dual  trading  prohibition]  and  that  1*  where 


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ahould  knew  tha  ritk  that  hia  ordar  la  piobably  b*ln9  axacutad 
by  tha  floor  tradar  who  uy  vaty  wall  alao  ba  Cradlnq  (or  hla 
own  account.   It  ia  now  claat  that  dual  trading  ahould  ba  outlawad 
and  I  ucga  tha  Cowlttaa  not  ba  lullad  Into  anothac  dalay  in 
outlaHing  dual  trading.   It  ahould  ba  outland  noa. 


profit  foi  thair 
that  la  unavallat 
typa  of  activity  thai 
in  (utucaa  trading  ai 
aacutad  In  Mv  York 
An  official  of 
a  floor  biokar  or  a' 
BHrchant  could  use  i 
raportabla  poaltion 
anticlpatad  tranaac 
Tha  coipoiaca  offici 


I  the  lack  of  a  piohtbition 
■  tuturaa  aarkata  In  tha 


a.   I  hava  a  bill  IH.R. 
aaaaa  thia  problaa,  whlcl 
a  aackata  Mich  tha  a 


would  prohibit 


I  not  illogal 


cutlva, 


uaitlon 


baan  davalopod  undar  our  1 
tha  unfalrnaai  of  allowing 
icounta  through  tha  uaa  of 
othara  In  tha  ucket  placi 
:ha  aacuritlaa  laoa  prohibit 
tha  acta  for  which  paopla 

[uturaa  aichanga.  an  accoui 
tba  back  [< 

public  lBf< 
.n  futuraa  contracts  of  cuatoaara  or  tha 
.ona  of  othara  to  profit  in  thalr  own  aci 
Fho  ia  awara  of  a  ipandlng  announowant 
ila  or  purchaaa  of  a  particular  co^wd. 
uaa  Market  could  uae  that  Infonutlon 
:  hla  own  account  before  tha  infomatl' 
>ga  I  conducted  In  tha  Snail  Buainaaa 


f  of  a  futuraa  eeaaia 


CO  trade  in  futuraa 

la  Bade  public.   Hei 

Co^lttaa  proved  boh  had  done  bo.   Since 

the  Intereat  of  tha  coiqwny  thay  work  for, 


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prohibit  thaii  oip 
Ctala  Hay.  but  lan* 
ttem  (uoh  laslda  1 
:ilV  auffar 


I  (tea  U(in9  lntlda 
[  on*  lutoca*  tradar 


■all  B 


into  Inaldar  abuaa*  In  tba  cattli 

■boiiad  that  al   tha  )15t  Billion  : 

futUE**  tradata,  1114  nillion  lor  7]  pai 

Inaidot*  —  flocr  tradari,  otflcara 

officara  of  agcl-bualnaai  (ira*  who 

Thoia  Hltb  accaaa  to  inaida  inConutticn  consliti 

tha  vait  lulorlt]'  of  tha  tiaa  and  thoaa  Hlthout 

inlonaation  wars  conalataot  loaart  Boat  of  tha  < 

have  paaaad  ilnc*  that  atudy  and  aavan  yaaca  hava  paatad 

an  aaiandaant  naarly  Idantleal  to  my   cucrant  inaidai 

bill,  Baa  paaaad  by  tha  Houaa  of  Rapraaantatlvaa  as  par< 

tha  1>B1  CRC  naauthociiation  bill.   That  aoMBdMnt  vaa 

dioppad  in  Contaranca  and  anothac  CFTC  atudy  of  tha  pcobla* 

waa  aubatitutad. 

Tha  SBC  la  vlgoroualy  antorcin^  tha  lav  to  atop  inaidi 
eonnaction  with  takaovara.   But  aoau 


lada  by  Urga 

:1  iiaa  aada  by  potantlal 

tcadlng  cattla  futucaa. 


ultina 


u4y 


a  knoHladgi 


■ovoBant  of  largo  ropoci 
but  now  iavolvaa  finani 
tha  proviaiona  of  a.R. 
bill. 


inpanding  takaovac  aay  not  only 
.ock  but  alao  nay  trada  in  tha  Indax 
iha  potantlal  to  naka  auch  largar  profltai 

ThlB  pioblaa  not  only  involvaa 
:abla  poaitlona  in  agrlcultuial  pcoducti 
■ackata  aa  wall,   t  urga  you  to  Incorr 
In  thia  yaaca  CFTC  loauthociiatlon 


■hi eh  I 


alao  requait  that  tha  Subccnaltta*  giva  conaidi 
idditlonil  bill    II 
It  would  maka  important  lapi 
■■port  •aia*  reporting  ayatai 
1   in   1971-73,   and  aavacal  tii 
«tlva,  and  tlaaty  inforaation,   baeonaa  crucial 
nd  prtvata  deeiaion  making  In  markatlng  gi. 


t  tha  DSbA.      Aa  w*  initl 


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■  tha  purpoaa  of  lapi 


:tlng  latg*  asport  ■ 
It  UIDK  aiipoTC  raportl 


■  not  protact  pcodu< 

■  bainq  rlppad  olt. 


th«  0 


Foralvn  icaCa  ci 
^arnatlonat  aiipoi 


coBflr  "Ith  USD*  [utaa,  nor  will  thay  onlai 
thiough  tha  CPTC. 

H.R.  601  vould  maka  tha  axpott  rapoi 
part  of  tha  Connxlltv  Bxchang*  Ket  adiiln] 
and  caqulr*  raporta  to  tha  CPTC  inataad  < 
Kith  tha  *9rlcultui*  Dapattaant  aftar  tha  poattio 
hava  baan  takan.  this  vould  hava  tha  folloiiing  a 
II   Poraiqn  aicportar  ttzma,   [oiaiqn  affillat 

and  Bubaidlarlaa  of  D.8.  i 

country  tcadlnq  ccapaniat 

co«9altad  to  coaply  hlth  i 

a  vaiy  graat  axtant  to  ha< 
and  to  (pacolata  Kith  tha 


adaquataly 


tarad  by  tha  CTtC 
aly  batoq  filad 


rai,n 


ba  aflaetivaiy 
ting  raportl ng 

;  gcaln  tranaaotton* 

bold*  a 

futuiaa  poaltlon  In  aseaaa  of  CPTC  apaculativa 
poaltion  liKita  would  ba  raquirad  to  rapoft 
■Ignlflcant  caah  grain  transactlcna  to  aupport 
thalr  hadglng  axaaiptlon  froai  apaculativa  llMlta. 
Mqulrlng  thaaa  additional  ftnu  and  foralgn 
affiliataa  which  ara  taking  larga  poaltiona 

af  tha  trua  daaand  for  thaaa  copoditlea  and 

ara  axcaadlng  tha  apacalatlon  llnlta. 

Blnca  tha  CoMOdlty  Eiichanga  Act  raqulraa 

raporta  of  eaih  grain  tranaactlona  to  aupport 

a  hadglng  axaaptlon  to  (paculativa  trading 

and  poaltion  liatta.  if  thay  filad  raporta 

with  tha  CPTC  and  It  vara  aada  public  an  anporting 


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f lr>  would  n 
larj*  grain 


:  b*  able 
ranaaotion  and  taka 


a  apacutatlva 

r  tKo  baloia 
OUT  pcodueara,  naichanti  and  pcoooiton  oar* 
informad  of  tha  naw  dtkand. 

Th*  cnc   could  gioia  alfaetivaly  aaeut*  ceaiillaDea 
with  tha  EapoiElng  caqulraiH 
USDA.   Th«  axlatlnf  authority  of  th*  CnC 
to  (iKpand  OE  dany  tcadlng  prlvl 

■■  th*  ability  to  Inpoaa 


Only  t 
■ton  can  (oraign  atata  trading  ceap*i>ia(  and 

ba  cequlrad  to  coaiply  with  our  lav.   Only 
■porting  procadurea  paaaad  by  th*  Houaa  In  ISS: 
:ance  in  favor  of  another  study  can 
CPTC  naadi  thla  infon 
th*  only  agancy  which  can  adaqui 


could  furnish 
tnfonatlon  tl 


orlglr 


I  USDA  now  hia. 
mars  ara  a*k*d  t 
I  Infomtlon  on  h 
n  they  will  harv* 


a  by  t 


OH,    tza 


including  the  Soviet  Union.  It  i 
the  ■■■•  kind  of  tinely,  accurate 
dMund  for  grain  be  provided  by  i 


a In  thay  plant  and 
aupply  infomation 
I,  to  the  whole  world, 

on  about  the  export 
iBl  grain  trader!. 


CONCLUSION 
>  only  highlighted  the  mott   vialble  naada  for  anendmenta 
ilao  covered  In  bill*  I  have  had  pending  bafor*  thla 
[or  several  yaarsi  however.  I  know  thla  Subconittee 


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in   businaam   U 


captad   the   inpoitanc   taaponaibilit 


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TcBtlBony  of 

Dr.  Handy  h.   Crana 

Chairman 

Caaaodlty  Futures  Trading  Conission 

Bafora  th* 

SubcoBBlttaa  on  Conaarvatlon, 

Cradit  and  Rural  Davclopaant 

of  th*  coamitt**  on  Agrlcultura 

U.S.  Hous*  of  R«pr*a*ntBtiv*s 

July  IB,  1989 

Mr.  Chairman  and  Kaabara  of  th*  Subconnltta* : 

1  ajB  plaaaad  to  con*  bafor*  you  today  r*pr«B*nting  th* 
CoMHodity  Futures  Trading  Coamisalon  to  pr«s*nt  our 
raauthorltation  proposals  and  to  rsspond  to  th*  Icglslativ* 
proposals  put  forth  in  th*  cemodity  Futures  l*provm*nts  Act  of 
19B9.   This  raauthoritation  comb  at  a  tl>a  whan  th«  Conmission's 
aggr*sslv*  *nforc«a*nt  progran  —  d*nonBtrat*d  by  our 
part iciftat Ion  in  th*  und*rcov*r  oparatlon  In  Chicago  and  th« 
r*c*nt  inv*stigation  in  N*v  York  ~  has  focussd  public,  industry, 
and  Congressional  attention  on  allagad  abusaa  in  cawaodity 
futur**  trading.  Your  Subcoanittee  staff  have  just  coMpleted  a 
thorough  inquiry  covering  all  MarkatB  and  found  th* 
B*lC-r*gulatory  systsas  to  b*  generally  sound.  Th*  Coaalssion 


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also  has  conducted  a  r«vi*w  of  ovorsight  proc*dur*s  and  axchanga 
trading  practices.  How,  this  Subcowaittaa  is  considering  raqulatory 
and  lagislatlvs  changes  to  aven  further  strengthen  the 
CoMiission'B  ability  to  oversee  futursa  aarlcets. 

While  the  conmlsslon  supports  tbs  Subeoaaittee's  goals  in 
this  area,  we  believe  that  Congress  has  given  us  sufficient 
authority  in  the  Comnodity  Exchange  Act  to  fulfill  our  vandate  to 
oversee  the  Karkets.  Thus,  we  are  not  asking  for  Major 
Isgislativa  changes  at  this  tiae  although  we  too  are  proposing 
so*e  changes  to  enhance  our  regulatory  program. 

Before  addressing  the  specifics  of  our  legislative  proposals 
and  responding  to  certain  aspects  of  the  Comnodity  Futures 
Ii^rovevents  Act  of  1989,  I  would  like  to  highlight  Ba*a  of  our 
recent,  »ore  Bignlficant  regulatory  activities: 

*  The  Conaiseion  is  collating  an  18-Bonth  review  of 
iaproved  audit  trail  systess.  In  1986,  the  Comlsslon  required 
exchangee  to  iaple»ent  significantly  iaproved  audit  trails  which 
«ust  detereine  the  execution  tl>as  of  all  trades  to  the  nearest 
Minute.  Nhlle  the  ConMission  found  that  the  exchange  systeas 
getMrally  were  adequate  at  this  initial  stage  of  i^pleaentatlon, 
we  called  on  the  exchanges  to  develcqp  a  plan  for  achieving 
iaproved  coapliance  and  for  l^roving  the  accuracy  of  source 
docuaante  used  In  obtaining  execution  tiaes. 

*  In  February,  after  an  extensive  review  process,  we 
approved  the  caiicago  Harcantlle  Exchange's  proposed  Globex  systea 
for  trading  CHE  contracts  after  regular  trading  hours.  Globex  is 


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tb*  first  •Icctronlc  trad*  •xccution  •ystca  at  a  U.S.  futures 


•  In  April  19BT,  tha  Coamission  approvad  axtandad  trading 
hours  for  tb*  Chicago  Board  of  Trada  (CBT) .   Thia  rula  ehanga 
allowad  th«  CBT  to  coiipsta  for  ovarsaas  trading  businasa  in  U.S. 
Traasury  bond  futuraa  and  option  contracts  and  in  U.S.  Traaaury 
not*  futuraa  and  options  contracts  vhmn   it  conducted  tha  tlrat 
night  trading  sasslon  at  a  U.S.  futuraa  axchanga. 

*  In  January,  wo  lasuad  an  Intorpratation  clarifying  that 
cartain  hybrid  instruments  aro  axoludad  froM  tha  Coniasion'a 
jurisdiction  and  proposad  a  ragulatory  axavption  for  otbar 
hybrids  with  option  coMponanta.  Yastarday,  w«  Isauad  a  final 
rula  providing  a  ragulatory  axaaption  for  auch  hybrida,  and  a 
policy  ststamant  regarding  tha  ragulatory  traatvant  of  cartain 
■wap  transactions. 

•  Intamationally,  wa  hava  Bovad  forward  by  astabliahing 
co^arativa  arrangaManta  with  foreign  regulators  and 

Bel f -regulators  to  permit  tha  offer  and  sale  of  foreign  ^tion 
products  in  the  U.S.  and  to  permit  foreign  brokers  to  market 
foreign  products  to  U.S.  cuatomars  without  ragiatarlng  with  the 
Coaisslon.  He  ara  continuing  to  establish  financial  inforaatlon 
sharing  arrangaaants  vlth  foreign  jurisdiction*. 

*  After  October  1987  and  during  such  of  19S8,  wa  davotad  . 
substantial  efforts  to  addreaalng  the  implloations  of  the  price 
break  in  the  stock  aarkat.  During  that  period,  tha  futuraa 


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■krk«t  ragulatory  systca  proved  durable  and  no  futuraa  brokaraga 
tirm*   Callad.   In  tha  paat  yaar,  axctaangaa  and  Barkat  ragulatora 
bava  i^l«»ant«d  wany  of  ttaa  reconsendations  of  tba  Brady  Task 
Forca  and  tba  Praaldantlal  Dorking  Croup  on  Financial  Harkata. 
For  axa^Ia,  coordlnatad  circuit  braakar  aachanlaas  bava  baan 
iq^lasantad  acroaa  aacurltiaa  and  futuraa  aarkatat  and  eradlt, 
claarlng  and  aattlaMant  syataaa  bava  baan  iaprowad  to  facilitata 
afficlant  caah  flows. 

•    Although  tba  Coaaiaalon  baa  baan  aictraaaly  productlva 
In  a  nuibar  of  naw  araaa  slnca  ttaa  laat  raautborl cation,  ttaa 
ongoing  vork  of  ttaa  Coaalaaion  continuaa  to  conauaa  our  tima  and 
attantlon.  An  axaaipla  of  auch  activltias  was  tba  aignlficantly 
Incraaaad  aarkat  survaillanca,  whicb  occurrad  during  last 
■UMvar's  drought.  Nhila  prleaa  wara  volatila  dua  to  tha  qraat 
nncartaintias  ragardlng  ttaa  impact  oC  ttaa  drought  on  crop  ylalds, 
no  wirkat  problaaw  azoaa  at  ttaat  ti>a  ttaat  raquirad  Coaaission 
intarvantlon. 

During  tha  draught,  I  partlclpatad  on  tba  Prasldant's 
Intaragency  Drought  Policy  Coanittaa,  chairad  by  tban-Agrlcultura 
Sacratary  Vfnq' 

COMCtSSlOH'S  ICCXBLKTTVE  HWFOBALB 

Mow  I  would  Ilka  to  turn  to  our  laglslativa  proposals.  Tba 
Coaalssion's  laglalative  raijuaat  consists  of  fiva  part*  ttaat  daal 
with  natlonwida  sarvioa  of  proeass,  Intamational  law 
anfoTCaaant,  eWll  aonetary  panaltiaa,  autoaatlc  aoapanslon  and 


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trading  prohibitiona  for  failure  to  pay  panaltiaa,  and 
ragistration  of  floor  tradara.  I  vlll  raviaw  aach  of  than 
briafly. 

Tha  firat  proposal  vould  axand  th«  Act  to  authoriia 
nationwlda  aarvlca  ot  procasa  and  apaclal  vanua  proviaiona  in 
private  lagal  actions  brought  undar  Sactlon  22  of  tha  Act,  tha 
provision  vhich  parvita  private  righta  of  action  undar  tha  Act. 
Thia  proposal  la  a  cuatomar  protaction  provision  vhich  vould 
allow,  for  axanpla,  a  customar  who  la  dafrsudad  by  an  out-of- 
atata  boilar  roan  operation  to  sua  in  hia  hone  state  rather  than 
being  reguired  to  go  to  court  In  the  atata  where  tha  bailer  room 
haa  its  principal  place  of  buslnaaa.  Specifically,  the  proposal 
would  allow  private  daaage  actions  to  be  filed  In  the  district 
where  tha  defendant  la  found,  tranaacta  buaineaa,  or  where  the 
transaction  constituting  the  violation  occurred.  Thus,  thia 
aaendnent  would  «ake  it  eaaier  for  conmodlty  futures  and  options 
custonera  to  bring  private  actlona,  placing  tha«  on  an  egual 
footing  with  cuatonera  who  aue  under  Federal  securities  laws. 

Our  second  legialatlva  proposal  Is  In  the  area  of 
international  law  enforcement.   Aa  the  proceaa  of 
internationalization  of  futurea  and  financial  aarketa  continues, 
cooperative  enforcement  efforts  with  foreign  futures  authorities 
are  becoaing  an  Increasingly  Inportant  part  of  the  Commission 'a 
enforcement  reaponaibilltiaa  undar  the  Act.   Therefore,  we  are 
proposing  a  new  Section  13(f)  be  added  to  tha  Act  which  would 
provide  tha  Coamlaaion  with  explicit  authority  to  conduct 


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invaBti^stlons  on  behalf  of  foraign  futuraa  authoritlas  raqarding 
vloIationB  of  foraign  lam,  rulaa,  or  ragulatlona  ralatlng  to 
futuraa  and  optlona. 

niia  laglalativ*  proposal  would  wthanca  our  ability  to 
cooparata  with  toraign  tuturas  authoritlas.   It  would  allow  tha 
CoMaisaion,  at  Ita  dlscration,  to  conduct  inveatigations  in  tha 
U.S.  at  tha  raquaat  of  foraign  futuraa  authoritiaa  avan  1£  no 
violation  of  O.S.  law  ia  Ivpllcatad.  Tha  Sacuritlas  and  Exchange 
Comisalon  (SEC)  waa  granted  siailar  Investigative  authority  In 
tha  atcufltiea  Barkats  last  yaar,  and  a  nuabar  Of  our  »ajoT 
foreign  counterparta  either  already  have  this  eutbority,  or  are 
currently  seeking  it. 

Before  conducting  en  invaatigation  for  a  foreign  authority, 
the  Conission  would  be  required  to  conaider  whether  the  foreign 
authority  had  agreed  to  provide  siailar  assistance  and  whether 
grenting  assietance  would  be  contrary  to  the  public  interest  of 
the  U.S.  The  aaandBent  would  also  allow  the  ConniBsion  to 
provide  confidential  enforcasent  inforaatlon  to  a  broader  range 
of  foreign  futures  authorltiee,  including  foreign  self -regulatory 
organisations  (SROe) . 

Our  third  prepoaal  aaends  Section  6(d)  of  the  Act  to 
eliainste  tha  requireaent  that  tha  CoBBission  conaider  a 
wrongdoer's  financial  circumstanceB  whan  aasaaeing  a  civil 
■onetery  penalty,  nils  aaendaant  would  give  the  Conission  >ore 
flexibility  in  choosing  af^ropriate  aonatazy  aanctiona  in  tba 
sdBlnistr stive  law  enforceaent  process. 


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R)*  fourth  proposal  alao  aundB  Saction  6(d)  to  auspand 
■utOHiticBlly  ttta  wrongdoer's  roqiBtratlon  with  the  CoimiBBion 
and  to  prohibit  hia  tron  trading  on  all  exchanges  If  ha  falls  to 
pay  the  penalty  whan  due.   This  proposal  would  create  Incentivas 
for  wrongdoers  to  pay  penalties  proaptly.  It  is  identical  to  the 
provision  alrsady  In  the  Cooaodity  Exchange  Act  vandatlng  an 
■utOMtic  suspension  of  registration  and  a  prohibition  oC  trading 
If  a  party  tails  to  pay  a  reparations  Judgnent. 

Our  fifth  proposal  involves  tha  registration  of  floor 
traders.  Unlike  floor  brokers,  vho   trade  for  custoaars  as  well 
as  for  thensalvas,  floor  traders  trade  only  for  thalr  own 
accounts.  Historically,  floor  traders  have  not  bssn  required  to 
register  under  the  Act  because  they  do  not  handle  customer  trades 
or  nonay  and  because  exchange  rules  have  established  criteria 
governing  thsir  accsss  to  the  floor.  However,  If  floor  traders 
collude  with  brokers  In  violation  of  the  Act  or  of  Couilssion 
rsgulations  they  should  ba  subject  to  tha  sane  regulatory 
sanctions.  By  requiring  floor  traders  to  register,  for  example, 
this  proposal  would  subject  them  to  statutory  disqualification 
and  fitness  reguirencnts  like  othsr  registrants. 

He  believe  that  the  registration  of  floor  traders  would  also 
assist  in  preventing  parsons  with  floor  privileges  who  are 
sanctioned  at  one  evchanga  froM  Boving  to  other  exchanges. 
ccMHODiTY  rDTOBES  zimtovoiEirrs  ACT  or  19S9 

niere  are  a  number  of  legislative  proposals  in  tha 
Subcommittee  hill  that  are  not  addressed  in  our  legislative 


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paekAg*.  Nhil*  th*  CoMilBsion  has  not  bad  th«  opportunity  to 
fully  consider  and  davalop  a  position  on  vvsEy  aspact  of  tha 
proposad  bill,  I  would  lik*  to  raspond  today  with  tha 
CoiHission's  praliBinary  assaaaaant  of  tha  sajor  provlslMw. 
Allov  >a  to  *«y  at  tha  outsat,  bowavar,  tha  ComniEslon  sbaras  tha 
ewarall  goals  of  this  bill  ~  to  divinlah  tha  petantial  for  trad* 
practiea  atausa,  strangthan  ttaa  CoHilasion'a  ragulatory  systaa, 
and  vaintain  tha  intagrlty  of  futures  and  options  Barkats, 
tbaraby  incraasing  public  confidanca. 
ftndit  Trail 

An  Isprovad  audit  trail  Is  a  priority  and  has  baan  a 
long-hald  CoMaisaion  goal.   Tha  COBBiasion  aovad  aggraeelvaly 
toward  tbia  goal  in  19SC  by  developing  tha  ona-slnuta  trade 
tiaing  raqulrasant.  Nor*  racantly,  tha  coBBiaaion  askad  aacb 
•xcbanga  to  Ivprova  its  aystaa  for  reporting  and  using  trade 
tlaing  lnfor>atlon  to  enhance  Ita  own  trad*  practice  surveillance 
program  and  requested  a  plan  from  each  exchange  for  further 
improving  thalr  audit  trail  capabilitiea.  Specifically,  w* 
r*queat*d  that  each  exchange  review  the  veriflability  Of  trade 
tlaing  data,  accuracy  larvela,  and  its  procaduras  far  assuring 
accuracy  of  source  records. 

Ha  are  flnily  coaaitted  to  iaprov*  tha  audit  trail  in  vaya 
that  ar*  the  Bost  effective  In  detecting  trade  practice  abuse. 
He  Miat  be  realiatlc,  however,  about  tha  capebllltles  of  these 
systaa  once  their  potential  baa  been  achieved.   Audit  trail 
systau  are  records  analyaia  ayateaa  and  n*lther  these  nor  any 


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oth«r  kind  of  aystcs  can  d*t«ct  all  typaa  of  trada  practic* 
violationa . 

Accordingly,  wa  ballava  tbat  a  caraful  analysis  la  nacaaaary 
bafora  dacraaaing  tha  trad*  tialng  standard  to  30  saconda  or 
lasa.  Changing  tha  tlalng  standard  froa  tha  currant  ana  alnuta 
trada  axacutlon  raqulremant  to  30  saconda  or  laaa,  for  axaapls, 
■ay  not  prenrlda  aufficiant  IvprovaKants  in  overall  audit  trail 
capability  to  justify  what  could  ba  a  algniflcant  incraas*  In 
cost,  particularly  to  tha  analler  axchangaa. 

Othar  audit  trail  inprovenents  say  ba  »ora  afCactiva  In 
datactlng  and  preventing  trada  practica  abuse.   Such  ivprovaaants 
could  includa  collactlng  trading  cards  «ora  traquantly  couplad 
vlth  aora  frequent  trade  patching,  granting  conpllanca  atsff  the 
authority  to  collect  and  copy  trading  cards  on  the  floor,  and 
liaiting  tha  entry  of  varl»al  orders  by  aeMbers  on  the  floor. 
Siallarly,  we  believe  it  may  be  a  aora  effective  use  ot  exchange 
resourcaa  to  >ove  toward  on-line  order  routing,  exacution  and 
trada  reporting  ayateaa  which  would  provide  aany  other  benefits 
In  addition  to  laproved  audit  tralla.  tfith  their  Increased 
ectasia  on  conputerlzation,  tha  exchanges  are  >oving  toward 
on-line  systaas  and  we  should  avoid  requiresenta  that  could 
discourage  this  davelopaent  and  poaaibly  force  a  detour  back  to 
nachanical  systaaa. 

we  appreciate  the  SubcoBBittee's  support  of  our  efforta  to 
achisva  audit  trail  iaprovaaenta.   We  believe  that  our  existing 


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authority  !■  ■uftlci«nt  to  accoBpllah  this  Important  objcctiva 
and  ar*  actively  pursuing  that  goal. 
oaal   Trmdlng 

W*  Bhar*  tha  goal*  of  tha  propoaad  laglalatlon  to  rid  tha 
Karkata  of  abuaaa  connacted  with  tha  practica  of  dual  trading. 
Indaad  an  original  purpoaa  of  tha  anhancad  audit  trail  vaa  to 
Atain  raeorda  to  Idantity  and  dater  trading  abuaaa  ralatad  to 
dual  trading. 

Earlier  thla  yaar  wa  bagan  a  atudy  on  dual  trading  to  aaaasa 
Ita  rola  In  foatarlng  trading  abuaaa  and  to  dateraina  vhattaar  any 
llBltationa  on  dual  trading  would  advaraaly  affact  aarkat 
liquidity.  Ha  axpact  our  atudy  to  ba  conplatad  In  oarly  October. 
Slnoa  our  analysis  ia  not  yat  coaplata,  wa  baliava  that  a 
statutory  raatrlotlon  baaad  on  apacific  volume  lavala  would  be 
prematura. 

He  have  concama  about  tha  use  of  contract  trading  velu«e  to 
trigger  a  dual  trading  prohibition.  Using  the  average  daily 
voluaa  of  7,000  contracts  as  a  trigger,  as  proposed  under  tha 
bill,  could  have  significantly  different  affact*  on  different 
■arkats  depending  on  auch  factora  as  the  site  and  character 1 sties 
of  each  Barket's  floor  trading  population.  For  exaaple,  the 
effects  In  the  cattle  futures  pit,  tha  gold  pit,  and  the 
Eurodollar  pit  could  all  be  quite  different. 

Accordingly,  wa  believe  that  if  apeciflc  restrictions  on 
dual  trading  are  to  be  sat,  tbey  are  aere  appropriately  set  by 
the  Coaalssion  through  its  rulemaking  authority.  Through  the 


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rul««aking  procasB  va  can  apply  m'  moT9   flaxlbla  approach  toward 
achlaving  tba  goal  of  allvinating  dual  trading  abuses  which  w« 
and  tha  Subcoaaittaa  shara.  ni*  Coanlssion  would  ba  abl*  to 
evaluate  on  a  market -by -market  basis  the  efficacy  of  dual  trading 
taking  into  account  tba  aftacts  of  any  llaltatione  on  liquidity 
and  th«  quality  of  audit  trails.   In  this  regard,  va  welcome  the 
alavants  of  flexibility  provided  In  the  bill  in  laiplenentlng  the 
dual  trading  prohibition. 
Dndarcovar  Authority 

The  Commission  has  a  strong  record  of  vigorous  law 
enforceaent.   In  the  exercise  of  Its  own  investigatory  powers  the 
CoBMlssion  has  traditionally  cooi^ratad  with  criainal  and  other 
law  enforcement  agencies,  both  etata  and  federal.  This  has  been 
most  graphically  denonstratad  by  the  ComnlsBlon'a  active 
assistance  in  the  undercover  operation  In  Chicago.  We  are 
pleased  that  the  bill  racognlces  the  importance  of  cooperative 
lav  enforcement  with  other  agencies.   He  also  strongly  support 
the  Subcommittee's  intention  to  send  a  signal  that  these  types  of 
undercover  activities  nay  be  undertaken  at  any  tine. 
Broker  Associations 

He  agree  that  It  is  Iv^tortant  for  the  ConiBlssion  to  define 
and  identify  broker  associations  for  the  purposes  of  surveillance 
and  compliance  programs.  However,  we  believe  It  is  Important  to 
develop  data  concerning  trading  activities  of  broker  associations 
based  upon  an  Industry-wide  definition  of  such  associations 
before  atteai^lng  to  determine  trtiat  lialts  on  intra-broksr 


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sBBOciatlon  trading  alght  b«  •i^roprlBt*.   M«  ar*  davBl^ing 

Inforaation  on  brokar  asaociations  through  Intarvlawa  of  industry 

participants  and  tha  study  of  currant  axchang*  rulas  and 

praotlcaa.  Our  study  should  bs  co^ilatad  by  tha  and  of  August. 

Wa  ballava  that  a  rulasaking  la  Bors  appropriate  than 

sstting  a  statutory  lislt  l>«causa  affsctlvs  sonltaring  of  Baroker 

association  actlvitias  could  rsqulra  rastrlctions  to  ba  tailored 

to  particular  sarkats. 

qualification  fro*  £ 
smlng  Boards 

Tha  Comnlsalon  aupporta  tha  provision  that  would  bar 
Individual  sanbara  with  significant  disciplinary  racorda  fros 
servics  on  disciplinary  or  qovamlng  panala  of  axchangaa  and 
futuraa  associations  for  a  fixed  period  of  tlse.   As  statad  In 
responae  to  an  Inquiry  fros  the  Senate  Comittea  on  Agriculture, 
Nutrition  and  Forestry,  we  announced  that  wa  would  promulgate 
propasad  rules  to  sddraas  this  concern  by  October  1989,  av«n 
though  Bona  exchanges  currently  have  rulaa  prohibiting  service  on 
boards  for  certain  periods  ol  tise. 

Na  believe  tha  bill  gives  ua  tha  flexibility  to  require  SBOs 
to  establish  what  is  a  significant  violation  In  B  smnner  which 
will  allow  for  sufficlant  diversity  to  reflect  different 
exchangee'  rules  and  trading  practices,  and  in  the  case  of  the 
National  Futures  Association,  the  different  induatry  c^iponents 
represented  by  tha  sesbarB. 
Coaposition  of  Disciplinary  rii^lll  asi  end  Governing  Boards 


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Currantly,  bob*  axchangas  hav«  a  two-ti«r  disciplinary 
process  in  vhich  on«  conaltta*  aakas  a  dstcrsination  whathar 
charges  should  b*   issued  and  another  coKuittee  hears  the  case 
regarding  possible  action  based  on  those  chargaa.   Exchangas  also 
raguira  aanbars  of  a  coaslttae  to  recuse  tha*salves  from  a  natter 
if  they  have  a  potential  conflict  of  interest. 

Wa  are  concerned  that  requiring  a  aajorlty  of  comnittee 
■eMbers  to  be  fro*  a  different  sector  of  axchanga  ■ambeTshlp  than 
the  person  appearing  before  the  connittee  nay  dininish  the 
technical  expertise  of  the  group  enough  to  slov  down  the  process 
and  to  render  a  leaa  effective  and  appropriate  declelon. 
Practically  speaking,  at  soae  exchanges  it  also  nay  be  difficult, 
iMcause  of  the  United  size  of  a  nenbarship  group,  to  achieve  a 
balance  between  exchange  nesbershlp  groups.   Because  of  the 
difference  among  exchanges  In  nesber  composition,  products 
traded,  and  size,  ve  suggest  that  the  requirements  regarding 
coimlttee  conpoBition  and  the  stages  In  disciplinary  proceas 
should  be  addressed  In  a  flexible  nanner  allowing  tor  diversity 
across  exchanges. 

The  Conmodlty  Futures  Trading  Improvements  Act  of  19S9  also 
would  rectuire  that  20  percent  of  exchange  governing  boards  be 
conposed  of  outside  members,  and  would  require  the  Conmlssion  to 
provide  guidelines  defining  who  is  an  outside  member.   Host 
exchanges  currently  have  rules  which  provide  tor  sons  degree  of 
board  diversification  and  the  Commission  has  announced  it  will 
nonitor  governing  board  composition  within  the  rule  enforcenent 


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r«vi«w  proe«a*.  H*  favor  having  "public"  vaBlMra  on  such  boardm, 
and  ooold  d«v*lop  a  broadar  daflnltlon  to  Inclnd*  groups,  such  «■ 
■arkat  osars,  alnca  thay  ara  knowladgaabla  about  tha  i  naaiiilli  lia 
baing  tradad  aa  wall  as  concamad  with  sarkat  intagrlty. 

Nhila  a  r*quira>ant  (or  a  KinlauB  percentage  Of  outaida 
board  — rtiara  »ay  add  to  tha  public  conddanc*  In  tha  Industry, 
tha  ConalBaion  ballavas  a  quota  ayataa  doas  net  aWaya  acdiiava 
tha  daslrad  raaulta.  In  a  Juna  1985  raport,  tha  Conlaaion  found 
that  tha  perforDance  of  public  dlractora  sonatlBaa  waa  Ilvltad  by 
dlractora'  sbsenteeism,  fallura  to  prapara  sufficiently,  and 
tailura  to  provida  axpart  aaslstanca.  Thasa  factors  Bust  also  ba 
racognlsad  and  consldarad  before  further  restrictions  concamlng 
laoard  ■aabarsblp  bacons  part  of  the  atatuta  or  tha  Cossission's 

Telaaarkating  Fraud 

Tha  Coasodlty  Futures  Isprova>ants  Act  of  19S9  would  raquirs 
tha  Camffilssion  to  develop  procaduraa  to  assure  that  non-hedging 
futures  and  options  custosers  solicited  by  talephona  for  tha 
first  tlBS  cannot  trade  on  nawly  opened  accounts  until  thraa  days 
after  signing  tha  account  opening  agreaaant.  Ha  ballava  this 
aaandaant  Is  net  nacasssry  since  under  currant  Comniission 
Regulations  1.55  and  33>7  no  futures  or  coKaodlty  options 
transactions  can  occur  lagslly  until  a  flrst-tlBS  cuatoawr 
raoalvas  «  certified  written  riak  diaclosure  ststsaant,  including 
risk  dlaclosurs  language  Bandatad  by  Ccmiaaion  rogulatlona,  the 
custossr  ackiKwlsdgaa  in  writing  that  ha  haa  received  and 


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understood  th«  disclosure  atatuant,  and  tha  broXar  has  In  hand 
tba  slgnwl  atataaMnt,  which  h«  vust  rataln. 

Tb»   Coiaiaalon  suipports  tha  Idaa  that  raglstranta  ba 
•ducatad  In  tha  purpma  and  funetlon  of  futuraa  and  options 
■arksts  and  in  the  rulas  and  ragulatlona  which  thay  aust  obaarvs 
to  lagally  trada  in  thaaa  >arkata.   Such  a  program  ahould  include 
tha  fiduciary  raBponsibllltlas  oC  thosa  in  tha  industry  vho 
handla  custoaar  aonay.  It  is  aaaantial  that  all  industry 
participants  undaratand  tha  signlticant  sanctions  thay  taca  If 
thay  abuaa  tha  aarkats  and  violata  tha  law. 
Saglatration  Disqualification 

nia  Conaodlty  Puturas  iR^rovaaants  Act  of  19S9  proposaa 
■avaral  aaandaants  to  tha  ragiatratlon  disqualifications  sat 
forth  in  Sactlon  8a  of  tha  Act.  Thaaa  proposals  aust  ba 
carafully  avaluatad  tor  conslstancy  with  tha  statutory 
disqualification  schama  Congrass  anactad  in  1982.  kt  that  tiaa 
Congress  gave  applicants  and  registrants  claar  notlca  of  the 
prlnazy  standards  ths  CoimiBBlon  would  usa  to  evaluate  their 
fitnaas  for  initial  or  continued  reglatration  and  granted  tha 
Coaalasion  tlaxibla  regulatory  tools  and  authority  to  develop 
innovative  procedures  to  streamline  and  simplify  it*  ragietratlon 

nia  currant  proposal  raises  concerns  that  it  Is  not  fully 
conaiatant  with  the  logic  that  underlies  the  1982  amendaenta. 
Certain  provlaions  aay  create  uncertainty  among  appllcanta. 


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r«giatranta  and  th*  gancral  public  aa  to  tha  atandarda  tha 
C^niaalon  will  apply  in  tta*  raglatratlon  contaxt.  For  axaMpla, 
it  an»aara  that  aapacta  of  tba  propoaala  craata  ovarlapa  batvaan 
distinct  catagorlaa  of  diLBqualifJicBtlon,  whicA  could  incraaaa 
uncartalnty  about  tha  typa  of  conduct  covarad  by  a 
dlaquallCi cation.  ni«a«  ovarlapta  also  fall  to  raflect  tha  basic 
diatlnctlon  batwaan  tha  mora  sarlous  typaa  of  disqualifications 
listad  undar  Sactlon  8a(2)  and  thosa  liatad  undar  Saction  8a{3). 

Ha  ara  also  concamad  about  any  aBandnent  raquirlng  tha 
coBBiaaion  to  racognisa  tha  authority  of  othar  regulatory  bodies 
to  craate  or  apply  excaptlona  to  tha  diaqualificationa  liatad  In 
Saction  8a.  Such  a  provision  will  intarfar*  with  tha 
CoHiisalon'B  ability  to  rastrict  such  axcaptiona  to  thoaa  which 
protact  tha  public  Intaraat.  Hie  proposal  will  »aka  It  Bora 
difficult  to  assura  that  tha  axcaptions  to  tha  disqualifications 
racognltad  by  tha  CoBalsslon  ara  appllad  in  a  consistent  and  fair 

Psriod  of  Ksauthorlsatlon 

Hiis  is  tha  fourth  raauthori cation  of  tha  Commodity  Futures 
Trading  CoBBiasion  sinca  tha  CoBBlssion  was  craatad  in  1974. 
During  thasa  fiftaan  yaars  tha  Cuturas  industry  has  anjoyed 
unprscedented  growth.   Itia  ComBlsslon  has  davalopad  Into  a  Mature 
and  abla  regulator.  He  support  your  propoaal  to  Bake  the 
CoBKodlty  Futures  Trading  COBBisaion  a  paEmanent  agency.   The 
Biaoonoaptlon  that  the  agency  Bay  soBehow  disappear  is  one  that 
■ay  arod*  public  confidence  and  should  ba  put  to  rest  once  and 


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tor  all.  PacwuMnt  autfaorl cation  !■  consiatent  with  ragular  and 
activa  Congrassional  ovaralght  o£  tha  agancy  vhich  tha  CoBmlaalon 
bas  alwaya  aupportad. 

I  would  lika  to  aubait  for  tha  racord  a  briaf  outllna  (aaa 
Appandiic)  of  our  prograaa  in  daallng  with  19Bt  raauthorlzation 
iaauaa  and  aaandventa. 

I  would  ba  plaaaad  to  anawar  any  quaationa  tha  Subcoaaittaa 
■ay  hava. 


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«u— rv  tn-«ii-«»m  If  port  Ifaardlna 
19B6  BMUtJiorlgation  laauM  and  AMnd—nf 

*    In  January  1987,  th«  CoMaisBlon  vot*d  to  and  th* 
option*  pilot  prograa  and  to  allow  par>anant  trading  of  ^tloni 
on  doaaatic  fara  product  futuraa  contracts  and  on  physical 
coaaodltlas.  Riia  action  coaplatad  ttia  procaas  bagun  in  1961 
wltb  tha  ra introduction  of  coaaodlty  options  trading  on  D.S. 


*  Tha  Caaaiaalon  complatad  and  publishad  in  Fabruary  1986 
a  aurvay  of  all  tradars  holding  poaltiona  In  liveatock  futures 
and  cations  as  of  Karch  13,  1987.  Tba  Coniaslon  found  that, 
a*ong  thoaa  aurvayad,  no  aingla  tradar  or  group  of  tradars 
doMinatad  tha  tuturas  narkata.   In  fact,  tha  largast  individual 
ahara  on  aithar  sida  of  any  livastock  futuras  Barkata  was  about 
six  psrcant,  and  in  both  caaea  the  largast  individual  share  was 
bald  by  a  coneercial  livestock  concern. 

*  In  July  1987  the  CoBOilesion  clarified  the  hedging 
definition  (Rule  1.3<S))  to  perelt  inatitutlonsl  user*  of  the 
futures  varkats  to  take  certain  positions  that  reduced  overall 
balance-sheet  risk  but  bad  previously  appeared  to  fall  outside  of 
tha  traditional  concept  of  hedging.   In  conjunction  with  the 
clarification  of  tb*  hedging  definition,  the  Coiaission  published 
an  interpretation  of  CFTC  Rule  1.61  in  Saptenber  1987  to  perait 
exchanges  to  grant  exeeptiona  froa  certein  exchange  speculative 


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position  limit*  in  financial  futuraa  for  certain  risk  nanagancnt 
positions. 

*  In  D«c*mb*r  19BT  tha  ComniaElon  anendad  Faderal 
apeculativa  poaition  limits  Cor  soma  agricultural  markata  in 
rasponsa  to  £uturas  industry  concams  that  pravious  lavals  vera 
too  rastrictiva. 

*  In  addition,  tha  Cooaisslon  moditlad  its  aggregation 
poltcY  for  positions  of  couaodity  pools  which  have  a  common  owner 
but  which  are  indapandently  controlled.   Tha  exemption  would 
permit  commodity  pool  operators  to  apply  to  the  CommisBion  tor  a 
higher  speculative  position  limit  on  a  case-by-case  basis. 

*  Early  in  fiscal  year  1988,  tha  General  Accounting 
Office  (SAO)  completed,  with  the  Conaission's  cooperation,  its 
mandated  study  of  the  cattle  futures  market.  Hie  CAO  report 
concluded!  "The  preponderance  of  the  lnfor*atlon  suggests... 
these  Markets  are  working  fairly  well  and  are  serving  the 
traditional  economic  purpose  of  snhanclng  price  discovery  and 
facilitating  risk  shifting....  Exchange  and  CFTC  regulation  of 
the  cattle  futures  markets  appears  to  be  working  well. 
Haniipulatlon  of  tha  cattle  futures  markets  has  nevar  been  proved, 
and  other  violations  have  been  detected  at  a  lesser  rate  than  in 
other  commodity  futures  markets." 

*  In  February  1988,  the  Commission,  with  the  assistance 
of  the  National  Futures  Association,  published  and  transmitted  to 
Congress  its  Leverage  Survey  Report.   In  November  198B,  the 
Commission  forwardad  to  Congress  its  final  report  discussing  the 
amount  of  interest  in  the  offer  and  sale  of  leverage  contracts 
and  proposing  changes  to  Commission  rules  to  permit  additional 
commercial  interests  to  enter  the  leverage  business. 


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TESTIMONY  OF  JOHN  M.  DAMQARD 

PRESIDENT 
R/TURES  INDUSTRY  ASSOCIATION 


Mr.  Chairman  and  rnamtMTs  of  tha  Subcornnlttaa.  my  nwna  ia  John  Darnoard.  and  I  «n 
here  today  Jrirny  capacity  as  preskMm  of  ttwFutur«s<rKiustryA3sociatkxi(FIA).  ThankytiuAx 
the  opportunity  ra  appaar  tMfora  you  today  on  behalf  at  tha  mambara  o(  the  FIA. 


The  FIA  la  the  national  In 


e  aaaodatkxi  of  ttie  commoctty  ftjturaa  and  opilona  trad 

3  Is  comprised  of  nnora  thani  00  cf  the  largest  fuluree 

n oomrjealon merdiants' or "FCMa.*  Thaytiandtomot 


brokaraoallrTTia.Knawnas'kJiuresoornrisalonmerdiants'or'FCMa.'  ThSytiandtomonthan 
80  percent  of  the  tranaacUons  on  Ifte  U.S.  luturasexchanoea.  Our  associate  and  mtamailonil 
nyibers.ighkii  number  osyly.  iOO.  m  a  rnoredhertegroui).  They  induda  al  U.S.  and  many 
foraiQn  axchanQSS  and  claarlnohouaaa,  law  flrmS)  accountlnQ  Riiits,  and  users  of  if>a  markets, 

■uch  Bi  commerdai  and  mvestmeru  banks,  and  pension,  insurance  and  muttMl  fund  manaoars. 
Although  our  meniMrahlp  inckjdea  al  facets  of  the  hJturea  indutty.  the  FIA  haa  tta  roota  In  he 
brokerigecommunity.whlctilriksthatuturasmarketswHhitspuolicpeillcipants.  AttrwFM, 
our  primary  concern  h  to  protect  the  intareets  of  ttieee  who  use  and  banan  from  our  markets. 

Today,  the  RA  is  ptaasad  to  offer  Its  support  of  H.R.28B8.  Congressman  (Mann  Englsh. 

Tom  Cdaman,  and  Timothy  Penny  have  introduced  a  bi  that  the  FCM  convnuntty  betewaa  can 
'    '"   '     '-'X  reforms  that  will  usher  futures  iradkig  into  the  21st  century.  Wa  share  the  view 


embodied  In  the  legiBlalion  that  sn  improved  audtt  Irsi  b  the  key  to  these  reforms.  An  ai 

tha  can  bs  verifiao  and  that  accurately  raconstnjcts  ths  sequence  of  trading  in  a  timety  rrowMT 

has  been  the  goal  of  ttie  U.S.  ftitureecommunBy  for  the  ensrei*  years  of  tfieCFTC'saxisisnce. 

Audit  Trail  apd  Dual  Trading 


«  newriy^CTMiad  CFTC.  ThapramlsaolthaCommocltyExchiHmAciisWwtthe 
BKchangeawipoIca  themselves  and  that  the  CFTCwH  review  the  efUncy  of  these  eftotta.  K 
hat  long  been  the  view  of  the  FiA  that  without  a  vamWM  audH  trail,  which  accurately  aoeounia 
for  awry  trade,  trie  axchangas.  the  CFTC,  and  Indeed  Congress  ttself  lack  Iha  tools  necessary 
to  assure  the  public  Ihet  the  meikstssre  free  from  abuaa.  wsbaleve  that  until  a  verffisbtoaudH 
tral  is  in  placa  In  every  exchange,  the  Mures  mdusiiY.  the  CFTC  and  Congress  wl  bs 
vulnerable  to  puCfic  skepticism  -  no  ntatter  how  ilMoundad  -  about  the  iritegrity  of  the  system. 

The  exchanges  have  made  tremendous  advances  in  their  audi  Irsl  systems  during  the 
last  few  years.  That  progress  can  be  seen  both  In  the  CFTCniesnlarcamerH  review* - 
highlighted  in  a  recant  report  by  your  Subcommittee's  Inquiry  team  -  as  wel  as  in  the  sustained 
growffi  In  the  volume  of  futures  trading.  But  there  is  mora  work  to  do,  and  someUmes  the  last 
mile  is  tfie  most  dfncult  to  traverse. 


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~  after  tha  first  year  the  legislation  has  been  In  affect,  the  exchartges  must  provide  the 
vedflablB  time  cif  execution  for  every  futures  or  options  trade  in  increments  no  greater 
tfian  a  mlr^jts. 


The  RA  atronaly  supports  these  amendments  to  Section  4  (g)(2)  of  the  Act.  We  beiiave, 
however,  ttiat  analyzing  tne  audit  trail's  efficacy  end  mploring  new  technologies  to  achieve 
optimal  enforcement  or  the  CEA  are  paramount  TTfis  worit  should  be  ongoing,  and  Congest 
snould  request  yearly  reports  on  its  progress. 


brokers  atfflf  joy^Wl*  ^  f^^  "ylllSI'  ^'^''^^^^i!'''?'''''?'  ^^}^  If?  ^"^^9* 


volume  c*  over  7,000' 

exchange's  audit  IrM 

determines  to  be  atlrtbulableto  dual  trading  and  where  the  audftraH  is  fully  verifiable. 


painfiily  evident  that  the  puMc  inisge  of  futures  nwltets  and  their  members  has  been 
adversely  impaoed  by  the  wideiy-helcf  beiiet  that  dual  trading  in  futures  leads  to  custor 

*' *  The  CUE'S  SpadatCommrttee  suggested  that  the  exchanges  ban  dual  tTBding  in 

«_..ij-  — I,,-.   Tk] '-' ~"?cl  about  80  percent  of  all  transaction  on  the  CmE. 


'mature,  Hquid'  mertcets.  This  would  affect  about  80  percent  of  all  transaction  c 

Thus,  both  Congress  and  the  Special  Comminee  recognized  that  while  some  abuses 
may  accompar^  dual  trading,  l^anning  it  altcMher  might  adversely  affect  the  less  liquid 
markets.  The  RA  has  supported  (his  view  wm  tha  important  caveat  tfiat,wfienever  dual  trading 
is  oannlttad.  there  sftould  be  adeouatessfeauerds  in  pbcs  to  assure  the  integrity  of  the  maniet. 

in  exchange  that  will  take  action  against  tf>ose 

Is. 

The  RA,  therafbre,  bellaves  that  H.R.  2869  correctly  inks  dual  tradng  to  a  more  precise 
audKtral.  It  is  dWIouil.howavtr,  tor CongrMSbilagialata whether  certain  markets  are 
suNdanhlEMd  or  whether  ttMvjwMralwIkiuicMysd^^  We  woukj  prefer 

that  the  Congress  draci  the  CFTC  to  review  the  efflcacy  of  auch  a  Iqukjity  test  in  particular. 

■le  believe  there  may  be  other  conslderatiorw- quite  ^art  from  he 

..  j^     i_  -__j^|r,^  y^g,  ig  g„  jKfive,  tquiO  market-  W 

lonnanca  of  audit  trail  systems,  the  CFTC 
o  detect  and  prosecute  trading  abuses. 

The  CFTC  currently  is  addressing  dutf  trading  and  has  promised  to  report  on  economic 
and  otfwr  aspects  of  tt«  issue  t)y  September  of  this  year.  We  respectful/ suggest  that  it  is  In 
the  best  iraarest  of  customers  snO  tr»  industry  aMe  to  take  a  dose  look  at  the  CFTCs  study 
and  otfiersundenway  before  acting  definitively  on  dual  trading.  If  after  reviewino  the 

Commission's  recommendations,  the  Committee  finds  that  the  Interest  of  the  pul]4icci 

has  not  been  adequately  addressed,  the  Committee  could  coroider  addmonaileoislMiva 


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TTw  CFTC's  roconvnandabont  on  broker  assocMUons  ara  due  ki  AuQutt.  We 
recommend  ihat  the  SubcorrwiineetakB  into  eooaidefitkyi  the  CFTC'arapon  before  llriafairiQ 
legislaUve  propoula  In  this  area. 


The  Subcomrninee's  Inqiiiy  team  hat  locuMd  on  Ihe  aoldMllon  by  a  law  finns  of 
ireont  wiho.  unaware  of  the  ittks  ol  tradng  futures  and  opdons,  are  enticed  to  become 
customers  ihrougtihigti-pressura  telephone  aondtatkma.  In  response,  tha  propoaed  lagisU 

includes  a  provhMm  whteh  requires  tt^  CFTC  to  adopt  new  regulations  to  prolwil  any  parao 
who  has  soHcited  a  cuuomer  by  telephone  from  antertna  any  orders  lor  three  days  after  the 


„ -,--r  -  menterlno  any  orders  lor  three  days* 

customer  signs  any  contract  end  the  prescribed  risk  disclosure  statement  opening  the  account 
this  three  day  'cooling  off  period*  would  not  apply  to  Mharthen  the  first  account  opened  by  a 
customer  wtth  the  sartw  firm,  or  for  accounts  opened  solely  to  'hedge.' 


support  so  ettons  to  remove  them,  waaraconcamed,  however,  that  the  languaoeifte 
Subcommtttaa  iaproposinDwi  result  rnore  in  fruatraiing  tlie  legitlrneie  users  of  Mure*  and 
optionsttianinaamJnatlngmabadapplaa.  TheregulatoiwihavadHDcultyindaAningwhatis 

a  first  time  sales  solicitation,  arid  the  wms  wH  hava  a  next  to  impossUe  time  supervising  for 
compllancswllh  the  rule.  Large  Ibms  haw  tddue  they  would  be  forced  to  hold  al  customer 
trades  for  three  days  because  ollha  supan/laory  probfams  rala»d  to  comptarKe. 

T^are  Is  a  consUaratila  body  of  Commission  and  Juddal  precedents  estatjishing  that 
the  CommocBly  Exchange  Act  and  CFTC  regulations  can  be  used  successfuly  to  prosecute 
telemarketing  fraud.  Ahvady  ttwre  are  in  placa  broad  federal  and  salt-regulatcty  prohibitions 
against  htah  pressure  tacttes  and  otfw  fraudulent  practices  in  the  offer  and  sale  of  futures  and 
options.  In  adOtJon.custortMrs  have  successfully  brought  cases  to  obtain  money  damagee 
tinder  Section  14  of  llw  Commodity  Exchange  Act,  the  reparations  section,  and  hen  fled 
arbHradon  claims  at  the  NaHortal  Futures  AssodaHon  agdnsl  salesmen  and  linns  «rt»  have 
defrauded  them  using  high  pressure  sales  tactics.  With  the  Subcommittee's  permission,  w«  are 
submHUng  for  the  record  a  cocN  of  a  latter  from  the  CFTC  to  the  Chairman  of  the  House  Energy 
and  Commerce  Committee  which  annotates  cases  the  CFTC's  enforcemem  dhislon  has 
successluly  brought  In  both  court  and  the  administretive  area  against  registrants  Involved  in 
telsmwtieBng  fraud.  The  letter  eisolista  a  series  of  CFTCreparabora  cases  invoiving  such 
practices. 

Unlike  oltiers  in  the  financial  sarvkws  area,  futures  professionals  already  provide  apedflc 
risk  disctosure  statements  to  ell  futures  and  options  customers,  and  these  disclosures  must  be 
acknowledged  end  retumed  before  a  firm  may  lake  a  customer's  trade.  In  most  cases  ttiis 
procedure  alone  woukj  provide  customers  with  a  cooling  off  period.  Futures  professional  must 
comply  with  NFA  nies  which  regulate  the  content  of  ail  communicalions  t»tween  NFA 
members  and  the  putMIc  "Riese  rules  specifically  prohitilt  fraud,  deceit  and  high  pressure  sales 


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cKls  and  pose  M  pcMntld  cusiorrws  Is  an  eMctK*  way  to  eSscotw  high  pressuTB  tactlci  and 
takaactkxi.  Thlin«tamihouk)baflnlargaderKJada()Mdbyo(harkiduwyseN-r»oulato>y 
oTQanlzaiions  ttM  nava  a  responslbSiy  m  this  ar«a,  and  w«  boRmo  11  wi. 

Th«  RA  wodd  Dka  to  conUnua  to  wortt  wWi  tha  Subcomnriiitae  to  help  it  tashlon  a 
proposal  that  Is  apprapriaMy  directed  at  those  persona  and  firms  on  the  periphery  al  the 
IrxiuBlry  who  are  usma  unlawlul  sales  tacUcs. 


The  Subcommittae's  proposal  win  permit  the  CFTC  to  request  help  trom  and  to 
cooperate  with  ottier  aoarKiea  In  ooraluoilng  invMUotfiore,  kKludlru  undercover  operetlart^ 
The  $uiMO(THTi«ss  tharstora  Is  rs(X)gnlzlria  the  dMIcuity  of  dstacUng  all  ■eo^ 
normal  Jnyertgatory  procedufee.  The  FIA  supports  the  legal  applntlonarauch  undercover 


ig  rules  which  would  require  that  persons  of  high 
.  .  __pinBrycommliiees  of  the  exchanges  and  the  NFA.  In 
IS  who  are  iikeiy  to  tw  eieciod  to  the  boards  of  the  ewhanges 
Industry  tor  the*  business  elhica  and  reflect  wel  on  the  indintry, 
Pareot»  aarvfrio  in  the  leadsrstiip  cf  ssH  reoMory  oroanizatlorn  are  there  to  protect  the  puMc 
participants  In  Via  markets,  arxl  their  dsdsens  should  not  be  open  »  question  because  of 
reguinory  probWms  In  their  pasts. 

The  FIA  also  supports  the  requlrenwnt  that  dtedplinery  committees  tie  composed  of 
persons  who  sre  or  a 'emerenttracino  status*  fnxn  the  rsspoixlenL  This  requirement  appears 
to  be  reaaonable,  wNh  the  addUonal  pmlso  that  an  exchange  be  atila  to  put  norvaxchange 
' m  such  panslslnspecisi  cases. 


Whattiar  govaming  boards  should  be  comprised  o(  U  Isaet  20  percent  pubic  rrt 

has  already  been  decided  by  several  exchanges  which  have  opened  msir  boards  to  more 
outside  msmtiers.  Our  only  caveat  Is  that  puoHc  members  shoiid  be  sxpected  to  have  a 
working  knowledge  of  futures  marksts.  The  RA  also  has  been  concerned  stnutirtcrsaaing  the 
actual  reprssentatton  of  norvfloor  intereets  on  exchange  boards.  To  that  end,  we  have  asked 
the  Congress  and  ttie  CFTC  to  encourage  exchar>ges  to  have  broad  rapressntation  on  their 
boards. 


The  FIA  also  Strongly  supports;  the  Subcommittee's  proposed  changes  tc 


Hsglsfa'allon  of  Floor  Traders 

The  proposal  10  register  floor  traders  SO  that  ttwy  receive  ttw  ssma  kind  Of  FBI  check 
WKl  backo^xjrid  review  as  other  Industry  registrants  also  appears  to  be  in  the  public  interest, 
and  we  fully  support  its  enactment. 


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)d  ethics  tnMng  and  research 


with  generous  support  fromlndiatry  leaders,  have 

raining  arxf  research  programs,  TnaRAreoogi^izasihachalBngeof 

tralnkiginthitsrM.  We  My  support  the  effort  to  increeee  Industry 

Kloa  oTartd  senslUvlW  to  atfical  conslderatkyis  involved  in  soidtlnq  wvJ 

rs'  accounts  and  tredng  In  Uures  markets,  wfiettier  for  customers  or 

propnetaiy  accotrts. 


Whaittsr  the  tiXMei' o(  the  CFTCIs  a  real  or  parcalvad  problBm,  the  FlA 

houU  take  every  ataprwcesaary  to  ghe  the  ConvTwaion  perm ' 

approprialionsfloiiesfarigeOandir--  '  '     " 

Inwtala  any  uncartaintias  In  the  Comn 
pennanent  stahja,  similar  to  the  SecvN 
for  staHlly  and  continultv  ol  regulatory 


Cornrass  ahouU  take  every  atap  rwcesaary  to  glw  th 
.--.—iropriBlionsflaiiesfa-"™ — ""' ■ 

wtala  any  uncartaintiet 

Mua,  similar  to  the  SecvWes  and  Exchange  Commission,  because  M  wH  provide 


le  appropriaiionsltoirM  forigeo  arvll9Si  and  conwwnd  the  Subcommittee's 
eirnlnala  any  uncertaintlas  In  the  Cornmlaslon'g  future.  The  CFTC  ahoukj  have 


TTw  CFTC  has  recommended  lour  prcMakxw  that  would: 

IS  Had  m  Fadaral  coi#t  based 

-  Permtt  the  CFTC  to  engage  In  cooperative  enforcement  efforts  wtth  foreign  futures 


The  fHA  can  support  the  thrust  of  el  four  amendments. 

HavMvar ,  the  spacrflclaxiuma  of  al  of  H .  a  aSGS  wanwds  dosar  review  than  wi 

poeaWedurlngthettnewewerejilwtopreperethlstostlmony.  T ' — ■--^- 

Subcommlttee  s  permission  to  subrr*  additional  corrvnents  ana  auc 


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Th*  Honorabl*  John  D.  Dlngall 

rli>  [  I  Mil.  Co^Bltta*  on  Bnargf  and  Co—ro* 

U.S.  Honaa  of  Rcprcaaiitatlvaa 

2125  Raybnm  Bonaa  Offica  Building 

Waahlngton,  D.C.  20515 

Daar  Mr.  Chaimani 

Thank  you  for  your  lattar  of  April  28,  19B9,  advialng  i 
Subcommittea  on  Transportation  and  Bazaxdeua  Materials 
favorably  reported  H.R.1354.   You  alto  noted  that  save: 
expressed  support  for  BmendnenEs  to  the  bill  that  would  avoid 
needless  overlapping  regulations.   The  Comraission  shares  those 
views.  In  our  letter  to  you  of  April  24,  19B9,  wa  proposad  an 
amendment  to  exempt  fcoRi  the  coverage  of  tha  bill  activitias 
already  regulated  by  tha  Cognlaaion. 

SouevsT,  plsaa«  b«  BVauxed  that  va  alio  abara  your  concarn  ovar 

the  problem  of!  -boiler  room-  inveatmont  icama .   In  this  regard, 
we  wish  to  emphasize  at  the  outset  that  tha  type  of  amendment  we 
support  would  not  exempt  such  unscrupulous  operations  from  the 
reach  of  H.B.  1354.   Our  proposal  is  not  a  'blanket  exemption" 
for  all  commodity-related  Instroments.   As  atated  in  tha  expla- 
nation accompanying  our  April  24  latter,  only  those  contracts  and 
tranaactions  within  ths  CommiBsion' ■  exclusiva  jurisdiction  would 
be  exempted. 

toi  exanipla,  parsons  who  aell  unlawful  off-exchange  commodity 
futursB  contracts  or  who  do  not  obtain  a  license  as  required  by 
tha  Comaodity  Exchange  Act  ("Act")  do  not  operate  within  the 
Conmlssion's  exclusive  jurisdiction.  In  such  caaes,  tha  Act 
explicitly  provides  that  any  other  federal  or  state  statute, 
including  one'  like  B.R.  13S4,  Day  be  invoked  against  persons 
engaged  in  this  type  of  onlawful  conduct.-^'   He  therefore  bellava 


^       Sn   Section  12[a)  of  tha  Act,  tb*  ao-oallad  'open  aeaaon" 
provislon.  This  aection  was  anactad  in  1983  at  the  requeat  of 
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that  *n  aaandnMiit  to  B.R.  1354  lik*  tb«t  w*  h*v«  proposed  ia 
fully  aonal«t*nt  with  th«  blll'a  purpoaaa  to  oa«b*t  t^lwiarfcotiag 
frand  and  will  «t  th«  atam   tiaw  avoid  unnacaaaary  r*gnlatezT 
dnplication  and  conflict  tor  tboa*  who  do  ^arat*  vithin  th« 
Act 'a  fr— work. 


lat«d  by  tha  Coraniaiion.   Spaclf ically, 
■ion'a  rulBB  contain  aavaral  bro&d  antifraud  provisions:   Sactlon 
4b  of  tha  Act  (futurea  contracts);  Saction  42  (coronodity  trading 
advica  and  pool  oparatlona>;  Sula  33.10  (axe hangs -traded  Op- 
tional; Xnla  3J.9  trada  and  daalar  optioaajt  Hula  30.09  (foraign 
futaraa  and  optional  I  and  Hula  31.3  (pcacioua  aatala  lavarag* 
transactions  . 

With  raqard  to  law  anforcanMnti  thara  is  a  conaidarahla  body  of 

Comnlaalon  and  judicial  precedent  BBtabllBhing  that  these  provi- 
aions  dOva£  fraud  in  the  telemarlieting  of  inatrunenta  and  aer- 
vicas  ragulated  under  the  Act.   The  Conmiaaion's  Enforcement 
Division  has  ■uccesafully  brought  both  court  and  adminiatrative 
caaea  against  regiatranta  involved  in  telemarketing  fraud.  2.'      2n 
addition,  under  Section  14  of  the  Act,  cuatonera  themselves  may 

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the  Coinmlssion  and  was  relied  upon  by  tha  North  Anarlcan 
5acuritias  Adminietrators  Association,  rnc  in  drafting  the  Modal 
Stats  Commodity  Code  in  1965.  The  Code  outlaws  various  forTns  of 
fraud  and  commodity' related  transactions  but  exempts  from  its 
coverage  transactions  within  the  Commission's  exclusive 
jurisdiction.   Commission  staff  assisted  NASAA  in  its  drafting  of 
the  Code  and  Commissioner  Fowler  C.  West  has  appeared  bafora 
several  state  legislatures  urging  its  passage   He  understand 
that  versions  of  the  Model  Code  have  now  baen  enacted  in  nine 
atatas  and  ars  awaiting  tha  Govaxnoz's  algnaturs  in  two  othazs. 

2-^   aafi.  e.g..  CFTC  V.  Bemth  at  al . .  Civ.  66-6130  [S.D.  Fla. 
1980)  {Section  4b);  CFTg  Vj.   ChJlfHAth  g»>°i"t>iiJ:ifi^  Cere..  Civ. 
88-6058  (S.D.  Fla.  1988)  (Rule  33.10);  CFTC  i^  Comnodity 
Fluctuations  Svatems.  Inc. .  83  Civ.  5909  {S.D.N.Y.  19S3)  (Section 
42);  CFTC  V.  'First  National  Monetary  Corporation.  32  C  7707  [S.D. 
111.  1983)  fSection  4oli  CFTC  V.  Multi-State  Adviaoiv  Corp..  81 
Civ.  2953  (D.N.J.  1981);  In  ^ha  Mattel;  of  Multi-Btqte  AdvlggrV 
£201.,  CFTC  Dkt.  Mo.  82-4  (Section  4a);  CFTC  v.  Multi-Nation^). 
Holding  Qorp. ■  Civ.  82-2173  (S.D.N.Y,  1982);  In  the  Hatter  of 
Hnlti-Hational  Holding  Core..  CFTC  Dkt.  Ho.  83-5  (Section  42) ! 
and  CFTC  V.  Trending  Cvclea  for  Commodities .  Inc. ,  Civ.  No. 
BO-'315  (5.D.  Fla.  1980)  (Section  4£).  J 


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bring  raparatlons  caaaa  bafore  tha  Commlaalon  to  obtain  nonsy 
damagea  for  violationa  of  any  of  thei«  provlaiona  coromittad  by 
cagiatarad  conniodity  profaaaionala.   Many  of  thaaa  raparationa 
caaaa  bav«  involvad  talemarketlng  fraud. -2'   Similarly,  Section  22 
of  tha  Act  providaa  an  axpraaa  right  of  action  in  federal  dia- 
trlct  court  for  cuatonara  to  aaek  money  damagaa  for  any  violation 
of  tha  Act,  including  tha  antifraud  proviaiona.   Further,  Section 
ed  of  tha  Act  authorizaa  atata  officlala  to  bring  caaaa  in 
fadaral  diatcict  court  to  en}oin  fraudulent  conduct  or  aaek  Dionay 
damagea  oa  behalf  of  thair  defrauded  citizens ■   Section  tid  alao 
providaa  that  atata  officiala  nay  proceed  In  atata  court  againat 
Bloat  claaaea  of  Conraiaaion  registranta,  epacificslly  for  viola- 
tiona of  tha  antifraud  pcoviaiona  of  the  Act  or  Conmiaaion 
Sales  .1' 

Induatry  rulea  and  procedure!  alio  cover  t*l«iiark*ting  fraud. 
The  National  Futuraa  Aaaociation  and  all  futurea  axchangaa  have 
rulea  which  generally  prohibit  their  raapactiv*  Kanbaca  froM 
making  fraudulent,  decaitlul  or  high-pr*aaur«  solicltationa  of 
cuatOBiarB  to   trade  futurea  or  option  eontrocta.A'   The  Covolaaion 


■^    See,  pan nay  ^,   Firat  Commodity  Corporation  si  BSBisa> 
[Current  Transfer  Binder)  Comm,  Fut.  L.  Bep.  (CCH)  S  33,936  at 
J4,279  (CPTC  September  21,  1937)  [Section  4b}:  Toub  ■?■  Apacha 
Trading  Corn.  ■  [1986-1987  Tranafor  Binder)  Coaoii.  Fut.  L.  Bep. 
[CCB]  1  22,975  at  31,S54  {CFTC  March  6,  1966) [Section  4b);  Piakur 
2.  Hiftqrnational  PreciouB  Metala  Corp..  [1984-1966  rranafer 
Binder)  Coram.  Fut.  L.  Bap.  (CCH)  1   22,493  at  30,164  (CFTC 
January  2,  l985)(Rule  31.3);  Reed  v.  Sage  Group.  Inc. .  [Current 
Transfer  Binder]  Coram.  Fut.  L.  Bep.  (CCB)  1  23,943  at  34,29S 
(CFTC  October  14,  19e7)(Bule  33.10);  Tavel  v.  International 
frpdinq  Group ■  Ltd. .  [19B6-19B7  Transfer  Binder)  Comra.  Fut.  L. 
Bep.  (CCH)  5  23,722  at  33,867  (CFTC  July  9,  1987),  affirming 
IftSfii  S.  international  Trading  Group.  In£. ,  (1586-1987  Tronafer 
Binder]  Coram.  Fut.  L.  Rep.  [CCB)  1  23,199  at  32,524  (CFTC  Auguat 
12,  1986) (Rule  32.9). 

i/   State  officials  Kair  not  proceed  in  elate  ceort  against 
registered  floor  brottara  or  futures  aasociationa 

^^  See.  National  Futurea  Aaaociation,  Compliance  Rule  2-29;  Adwx 
Coramoditiea  Corporation,  Rule  701;  Chicago  Board  of  Trade,  Rule 
506.00;  Chicago  Mercantile  Bxchenge,  Rulea  432  and  433;  Chicago 
Rice  and  Cotton  Bxchanga,  Rule  300.01;  Coffee,  Sugar  t  Cocoa 
Exchange,  Inc.,  Rule  1.13;  Commodity  Exchange,  Inc.,  Rules  3.04 
and  3.05;  Kansaa  City  Board  of  Trade,  Rule  1000.00;  HidAmerica 
Commodity  Exchange,  Rule  701;  Minneapolis  Grain  Exchange,  Rulea 
TT5.00,  and  1700.00;  Haw  Sork  Cotton  Exchange,  Rule  9.01;  Nev 

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wiatarad  fntozaa  aaaociatiena  to  provlda  volnntar;  arbltTatlon 


otbar  vioiatlona  co^nlttad  by  axchanga  or  aaaoelation  aai^ra. 
toctlona  5a(Il}   and  17(b|(10)   of  tha  Acti    17  CFR  Part   ISO. 

■•  baliara  tb«  feragolng  d«aonstrat*i  that  Um  Act  already 
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bopa  that  yon  and  othaz  Baabara  of  tha  Comilttaa  will  ba  abla  to 
aapport  an  aaandnaat  of  tha  typa  wa  hava  snggaatad.      Plaaaa  call 
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rcpenedly  ra  it  cffidEni  ud  viiUe  mctedng  uid  riik  minifcmeni  meduniimi  for  t  wide  tmy  of 

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•fcncy.  Ha  liiiilplli|ii»1miiinlilliiin|iniiipl  will  coadaB 

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inf  reuoiubly  well,  emyooa  wllh  Int 

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lad  ps  b;  ill  fM  k  anHribMu  iwiinl|f  4o  iba  ttUckiKj  cffunatt  uikea 

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RR.  aw  wouMbM  dm]  Biding  In  iMftoiwhoie  July  inilum  cxaali  7  JOO  carniei*  How- 
ever, dwii  would teiiminlier of Bxce^tkne to Itili nils.  dTCaiuldcbneniiyBtlhe 7,000 
cooncl  level  If  Iba  dial  ndlfilbucruBdlziacuedvolMUlIy  or  wider  bktidiiTnklL  AIb.> 
bn^icr  could  dual  Hide  If  uithnlBd  by  hU  cummer.  Hoally,  ibe  UU  would  allow  a  UUni  of  Aa 
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u  bs  OMy  bxvy  wMi  wida  mliUHly  la  pricH. 


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Chairrntn  Englith  and  didingiMhad  mwntara  a 

Rog«i  Slovar,  chairman  ol  Ih*  •ichang*.  and  I  vary  much  appraciata  tha  invitation  M  (fipaar 
h«r«  Mday  to  diacuM  iTw  Kanaa*  Citf  Board  of  Trada'a  viaw*  on  your  propaaaf  to  raauthoni* 
iha  Commodity  Futurai  Trading  Commtiaian. 

I  am  MIchaal  Brauda,  praaldani  and  ehM  oracutlva  offloar  rf  Vm  axchanga, 

Mr.  Chairman,  a  mambar  o(  your  alall  viaHad  Iha  Kanaaa  Oly  Boaj^  o<  Trad*  on  two  occaalona 
during  Iha  coinaa  of  your  commitlaa*a  worh.  and  1  want  you  lo  know  that  wa  appraclaw  Via 
•pirit  ol  cooparalion  ttial  chaiaetariiad  ihoaa  viaila.    Wa  lall  iha  rnlant  ol  hii  viail  truly  waa  to 
■•am  a*  much  aa  poaalbia  about  our  oparatiana  and  our  audit  tr«i)  in  particular. 

LM  ma  piafaca  thaaa  ramtrka  with  iha  atatamani  that  tinea  1  )oln«d  tha  aichanga  fiva  and  ■ 
hall  yaan  ago  my  oxparianca  tiaa  tsaan  ll\al  tt>a  Commodity  Futurai  Trading  Commiaak>n  hai 
dona  an  aiamplary  job  ol  govarntng  tha  commoditiaa  irtduitry  Ihrough  a  vary  chatlangkig  pariod 
in  tha  indualiy'a  davalopnianl:    ■  tima  of  plianomanal  growth  In  trading  voluma,  in  numbara  of 
proOucU  Iradad  and  in  Itw  divarijty  ot  IntlrumanI*  availabia  lor  trading,     Tha  racani 
govarnmani  invaatigation  looming  aa  it  >  ovar  Ihaia  procaadlnga.  I  faal  tt  Imporlant  run  to  loaa 
light  of  Iha  mammoth  iab  thai  confront*  Hia  CFTC  dadiy  and  thw  auccMa  with  wNcti  ihayVa 
aecompliahad  tha  taak  thua  far. 

Now.  lat  ma  ipacificiaiiy  addrasa  iha  provlik>ni  ol  tha  raauthorizalion  bill  aa  put  forth  by  your 


Parmanant     Haauthoriiallon 

TTia  Kanaaa  City  Board  of  TrWa  aupporta  unaqulvocally  ttia  propocal  to  malia  Ilia  CFTC  a 
parmanant  govammant  agancy.    The  commodiliaa  induilry  haa  maturad  ovar  tha  put  10  yaar* 
into  a  kay  iMayar  in  tha  inlamational  riak  managamant  arana  and  iha  CFTC  haa  provan  Ittalf  a 
capabla  and  tough  raguialor  through  Itwt  aignincant  pariod. 

Tlta  procaai  of  raauthoniation  dietalad  by  Iha  currant  atructura  cauaaa  an  unraaaonabia  draki 
on  CFTC,  induitiy  and  CongresalonaJ  raiourcoi  in  Iha  conlinuaJ  affort  to  rajuaUfy  tha  MQ»nef* 
axiatanca.  Tha  currant  atructura  alao  hindara  tha  affaetivanaaa  of  tha  Commiatlon  by  nuMng  II 
a  political  pawn  praciaaly  at  Ihoaa  crisis  momanw  whan  hill  Commission  raaourcw  ara  naadad 


To  giva  ttia  Commission  permanani  italus  aands  tha  clear  message  to  i 
aganclea  and  lo  tha  financial  markals  that  Iha  agancy  hat  tha  lull  Support  Of  Congraat.    Tha  naM 
dacada  prsmiset  a  new  set  of  chaUengea  lor  the  commodinas  Industry  bolh  from  wilhin  our 
borders  and  outaida  Iham,  and  parmanant  raauthorizalion  craatas  t  firm  four>dation  from  which 
Iha  Commitsion  can  face  those  challenges. 

Dual    Trading 

Since  tha  news  broke  airlier  this  year  ol  the  invetligaliont  into  tha  Chteago  commodity 
mtrkatl.  dual  trading  has  become  the  banering  ram  ol  those  who  would  like  to  tea  ttia  Industry 
conslrictad.  Tha  Kansas  City  Board  at  Trade  would  lilw  lo  use  this  opportunity  to  put  forlti  thai 
dual  trading,  in  and  of  llsalf.  is  nol  a  problem:    dual  trading  is  an  accepWd,  legitimate  and 
necessary  component  ol  luturas  trading,  aspacially  at  smaller  aichanges. 

TTia  kay  lo  dual  trading  lias  m  wttathar  Iha  aichanga  In  question  haa  tha  appropriaM  aysMms  In 
placa  to  detect  dual  trading  abusaa.   Thoaa  procadurei  may  vary  by  exchange,  deparvlirig  on 
tuch  variablas  at  tha  number  of  traders  in  a  particular  pil.  trading  volume  in  that  pN  and  itM 


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.    Wa  al  th*  Kanaai  City 
r  audit  trail  aurvalllanca 
n  •ichanpa*.  bacauM  wa  racognlza  Iha  nasd  to  Innwata  1c 


Dual  txding  haa  t>aen  tnotved  thaaa  many  yaan  In  1^  Trading  pill  iMcauaa  il  yiald*  a 
tignificani  aconomic  advanlaga.    By  Improving  Iha  liqijidily  ol  iha  pit,  dual  trading  nalpi  lo 
asaura  aa  narrow  a  tud-aik  pric*  apraad  »  poaaitila,  with  banafiti  accruing  to  all  participanta 
in  mat  rnaihsl.    A  natural  conaaquanca  at  raatricting  dual  trading  la  to  raduca  ttia  aHiciancir  of 
Iha  pit  by  conatrlcling  Ihs  population  of  brokari  availabla  to  fill  ordara.    Thi*  raducas  pricing, 
as  wall  a*  aiaculion,  alliciarwy.    If  not  handlad  with  cara,  taauictiotii  on  dual  leading  can 
intanslly  Iha  vary  problama  tfiia  committaa  la  trying  to  aolva  and  poaaWy  cauaa  a  [aw  mora. 

Currant  CFTC  ragulaliona  claarly  datall  tha  raaponaiblUly  of  aidiangai  lo  iuruay.  aiamina  and 
invaitigata  thait  markala  to  prolaet  againal  trading  abuaaa,  including  thoaa  that  may  raault 
from  djal  trading.    H  ta  our  opinion  that  any  axchanga  Ihat  can  damonatrtla  ItaaH  capabia  ol 
fultililng  that  duty  ahould  ba  aiiowad  to  conlinua  lo  dual  trada.  no  mattar  how  larga  daily 
voluttw  In  a  partlcular  pn  may  ba,    ConvarMly.  any  aichanga  that  cannot  prova  Itislt  capabia 
ahould  not  ba  allovfad  to  dual  trada.  no  mallar  how  low  Ha  dally  voiuma. 


Your  commiltaa  racognizaa  that  a  kay  to  aflactlva  monitoring  of  trading  activity,  inchiding  dual 
trading,  ia  through  an  affactlva  audit  trail.    Wa  agtaa  with  you.    Tha  Kanaaa  City  Board  of  Trada 
wat  tha  firal  axchanga  lo  raquira  what  wa  caM  'liming  lo  tha  minuta.'    and  wa  practlcad  such 
in  our  pits  long  betora  wa  wera  rsquirsd  to  do  so.    Our  ayatam  haa  been  recognized  for  its 
effectiveneaa  since  itt  impiamantation. 

Nonathaleas,  people  who  have  not  been  directly  Involved  In  the  devalopmeni  of  auch  timing 
a  of  tha  difficult  nature  of  tha  work  involved.    While  the  Kanaas 
J  to  work  toward  the  committae's  propoaed  one-yaar  requirement 
dard  ar>d  tha  three-year  requirement  of  a  30-Becond  rule,  we  urga 
«  committee  to  allow  tlia  CFTC  reaionabia  flaiibilily  in  determining  how  and  whan  the 
met.   The  challenge  of  the  task  will  not  ba  clear  until  work  haa  begun. 

ir  asaoclaliona  is  similar  to  our  opinion  on  dual  trading.    Broker  aaasclations 
are  not  a  problem  H  an  aichanae  has  tha  mechanisms  in  place  to  detect 
violations  of  trading  rules.    In  fact,  formal  and  inlonnal  broker  assoclalions  may  help  the 
markets  by  Improving  trading  accuracy  and  efficiency. 

nestricting  the  type  and  degree  of  trading  between  members  of  a  broker  association  is  second 
beat  to  having  the  procedures  in  place  to  delect  any  abuses  aa  they  occur.  The  placement  ol 
restreliona  also  assumes  that  broker  aasoeiationa  are  a  formal  business  entity,  when  In  fad 
the  majority  of  such  assoclalions  are  quite  informal  and  can  very  easily  be  camouflaged  or 
disbanded  to  circumvent  raslrictive  rules.  To  ba  effectiva,  any  proposal  dealing  with  broker 
auociations  should,  at  a  minimum,  define  what  a  broker  association  ia  and  raquira  thai  graupa 
meeting  that  description  be  registered  as  such  with  the  appropriate  eichanga. 

Qoverning    Boerds 

Our  exchange  has  no  problem  with  your  proposals  to  make  members  found  guilty  of  certain 
eichange  violations  inaligible  to  serve  on  governing  boards  and  certain  eichanga  committea*  or 
disciplinary  panels  for  a  set  period  of  time.    Likewise,  the  eichange  has  no  problem  with  having 
30  pareeni  of  its  board  membara  from  outside  Ihe  exchange. 


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Our  •ichtng*  also  can  tcc«pt  iha  provitiont  u  put  forth  in  th*  propoMl  lo: 

■■RMIuIra  \rm  aiiablwhrTwni  of  diiciplinaiv  commniaat  ai  aacn  aichanga  ihai  af*  larga 
snou(^  W  incluc)*  a  majority  in  a  calagory  othar  ttian  ttiai  of  a  parton  baing  triad. 

--RaqUK*  I'M  CFTC  10  pu!  inio  placa  ilriclar  procadurea  to  rogulata  tatopfion* 
aolicitalion  of  comnnodity  account*. 

-Raquira  tha  CFTC  to  aataUlth  atandardt  to  '•gitiar  floor  Iradara,  artd 

-RMIuirB  r>*w  raglalranla  lo  attand  alhica  training. 

Th*  K«n«w  City  Board  of  Trad*  applaud*  tha  comminM'a  iMoniniandaiion  to  maM  Iha  CFTC  a 
pamrnnant  aBancy,  iharaCy  aanmg  th*  ragulaiory  ton*  n**d*d  to  carry  th*  fulurat  induciry 
Into  Ih*  1»0*. 

Th*  aichang*  alao  raapacts  tha  commHlaa'a  atMmpIa  to  prolaci  th*  public  good  by  trying  to 
lagialat*  agalnal  polanlial  trading  abuaaa,  apacKicaJly  trom  dual  trading  and  brotwr 
aaaociation*.    How*var,  tha  Kansai  City  Board  of  Trad*  laalt  that  Ihoaa  iaaii**,  aa  ivalj  aa  th* 
9*n*ral  good  of  tfw  invaating  public,  can  baat  b*  aaivad  by  locualng  sach  •xchanga'a  aftorta  on 
davaloping  a  comprahanaiva  audH  maehanlam  la  aaaM  oul  rula  vMatara.    Only  thoaa  aictwngaa 
not  abia  lo  maal  a  raasonabi*  alandanl  should  b*  rnad*  lo  confront  Ih*  conaaquancaa. 

Th*  U.S.  commoditlat  Induavy  hu  •»Ubli«n*d  Haalf  luccaaafLlly  In  tha  Intamalianal  llnancia) 

mailwlplac*.    As  in  any  growth  induatry.  houmvor.  ci 

U.S.  Induatry  maala  iha  chaliangaa  Ifial  lia  ahaad,  bol 

proposal  modifiad  1c  incluOa  our  auggastions  provida*  an  accaplabla  lrinia¥fOrk  on  ¥fhlch  ' 

basa  thoaa  affona.    Wa  command  tha  commitlaa  lor  ila  mrorti  In  drafting  thia  legislation. 

Thanh  you  (or  tha  o(4>onunlly  to  appaar  bar*  today. 


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■aw  Tork  Nercantila  Ezchanga 

B0f ottt  tba 
Onltod  Statss  Hovs*  ot   Bepres«ntattT«B 
CoaaittMa  on  AQrleultuta 
tt««  on  Canaarration,  Ctadlt  and  Sural  Daralopnttat 


He.  Cbairman  and  Msnbeta  of  tha  Connittaa  and 
Subcoicnittee.  Hy  nama  la  liou  Guttnan  and  i  am  Chairnan  of  the 
Board  of  Directors  of  the  Mew  York  Mercantile  Exchange.  On 
behalf  of  the  Exchange,  I  want  to  thank  you  for  the  opportunity 
to  appear  before  this  Subcoimlttee  to  present  our  viawa 
concerning  H.R.  2869  and  tha  reauthorisation  of  the  CFTC. 

It  is  abundantly  clear  that  H.R.  2B69  aeeka  to  send  a 
message  to  the  public  that  Congress  intends  to  act  swiftly  and 
firnly  to  rectify  perceived  defects  in  the  regulation  of  future 
markets.  We  do  not  dispute  the  value  of  this  message.  Although 
we  believe  that  allegations  of  abuse  in  our  markets  are  more  a 
matter  of  perception  than  fact,  it  is  undeniably  in  our  interest 
to  ensure  that  public  confidence  in  the  integrity  of  the  markets 
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While  wa  luppott  th«  iMBaaga,  as  wall  as  tha  concapt  of 
strengthaning  tha  regulatory  syaten,  we  differ  fundamentally  as 
to  the  means  chosen  to  achieve  those  objectives.   For  the  first 
time,  the  bill  aaaks  to  inpoae  Congrsasional  ntandatea  in  a  level 
of  detail  tiaditionally  lesarved  for  tha  CFTC  and  the  exchanges 
—  the  expects  familiai  with  industry  practice,  cuatomar  needs, 
emerging  technology  and  all  of  tha  othet  ptactlcal  realities  of 
day-to-day  life.   Tba  bill  ignores  many  important  dlffecancas 
among  the  regulated  markets  and  the  customers  that  use  tbem. 
The  net  result,  we  believe,  would  be  to  weaken  rather  than 
enhance  the  efficiency  of  the  system.  These  weaknesses  would  be 
exploited  by  our  overseas  competitors  and,  in  tha  final 
analysis,  the  American  public  would  be  worse  off  under  h.r.  2869 
than  it  is  today. 

It  is  both  premature  and  unnecessary  to  regulate  with 
the  specificity  contained  In  H.H.  2B69.   The  present  regulatory 
structure,  with  its  flexibility,  has  allowed  United  States 
markets  to  provide  Internationally  envied  risk-shifting  and 
price  discovery  forums  that  have  been  of  immeasurable  value  in 
achieving  price  certainty  and  stability  to  farners.  oil 
producers  and  refiners,  industry,  the  financial  community  and, 
ultimately,  consumers.  The  system  works.  Reaction  to  press 
reports  in  January  of  a  Justice  Department  Investigation  into 
commodity  trading  in  Chicago  demonstrates  just  that.  Virtually 
every  commodity  exchange  In  the  cvuntrif  has  performed  an 


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extensive  review  of  its  own  trading  rul«s  and  practices  ovar  the 
IsEt  Biz  months.   Many  constructive  reconaandatlons  for 
requlatorr  reform  have  been  offered  by  the  RYHEX  Regulatory 
Review  Task  Force  and  the  special  review  connlttees  formed  by 
other  exchanges. 

The  essential  conclusion  of  the  VYHEX  Task  Force  was 
that  the  appropriate  nethod  to  regulate  against  trade  practice 
violations  was  thcough  rules  designed  to  ptohiblt  improper 
conduct,  an  audit  trail  sufficient  to  recreate  the  sequence  of 
trading,  surveillance  and  compliance  systems  that  Identify  trsde 
practice  violationa  and  a  disciplinary  process  that  both 
punishes  violators  and  serves  to  dater  future  violations.  On 
dual  trading,  the  Task  Force  recognised  that  dual  trading  was 
not  a  problem  in  itself.  The  Task  Force,  therefore,  did  not 
recommend  banning  this  otherwise  beneficial  practice  merely 
because  of  an  apparent  perception  that  it  created  a  conflict  of 
interest. 

Until  studies  determine  with  certainty  that  such  an 
action  would  not  threaten  the  efficiency  and  liquidity  of  the 
markets,  ultimately  harming  the  commercial  and  public 
participants  that  the  regulatory  structure  Is  designed  to 
protect,  the  composition  of  the  markets  ahould  not  be  tampered 
with.   Thus,  the  Task  Force  offered  many  reconmendations  foe 
strengthening  the  regulatory  structure,  but  at  the  same  time 


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attamptad  to  ansuia  that  tha  aarkats  B«int«liwd  tbair  highly 
teapected  pricing  capabllitias. 

Ha  raipactfully  raguaat  that  Congress  taica  tha  saaa 
maasurad  approach  in  its  reauthorisatian  o£  tha  CFTC.  On  a 
posltiva  note,  it  sppaars  that  many  of  the  provisions  of  H.R. 
2B69  aca  consistant  with  the  tKKEX  Task  Force's  ceconBandS' 
tions.  Wa  baliava  that  they  represent  a  reasonable  effort  at 
fine-tuning  tha  Conaodity  Exchange  Act  and  systan  of  CFTC  and 
exchange  ragulatlons  that  govern  the  industry.  Our  apaciflc 
coranants  on  thoae  provisions  are  contained  in  an  addendum  to 
this  testiiDony. 

The  dual  trading  and  audit  trail  provisions  of  tha 
bill,  on  tha  other  hand,  seen  to  represent  a  "shoot  first  and 
ask  guestions  later-  approach.  They  place  at  risk  the 
efficiency  and  viability  of  out  narkats.  He  are  fearful  of  such 
a  method  of  legislation.  Once  the  damage  ia  done  to  the 
markets,  it  will  be  irreversible.  Accordingly,  ife  respectfully 
reguest  that  the  Subconnil ttee  reject  those  provisions  of  the 
bill. 

To  briefly  digreas,  trading  populations  on  conaodity 
exchange  floors  are  comprised  of  three  groups  of  participants: 
floor  brokers  who  exclusively  execute  customer  orders,  floor 
traders  who  serve  exclusively  aa  narkat-maketa,  abaorbing  risk 


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by  trading  for  their  otra  account*,  and  ao-call«d  'dual  traders' 
who  may  both  execute  cuataoMt  ordera  and  trade  Cor  their  own 
account  on  the  same  day.   Theaa  three  components/  though  not 
necessarily  comprised  of  equal  numbers  of  traders,  are  the  three 
legs  of  the  stool  that  support  the  open  outcry  auction  market 
system.   That  system,  in  turn,  provides  the  most  efficient 
pricing  system  in  the  world.  On  an  average  day,  there  are 
approximately  450  traders  on  the  NYKEX  floor,  spread  anong  crude 
oil,  heating  oil,  gasoline,  propane,  platinum  and  palladium 
futures  trading  and  crude  oil,  heating  oil  and  gasoline  options 
trading. 

The  liquidity  provided  to  the  markets  by  dual  traders 
varies  depending  on  a  wide  range  of  circumstances.   It  varies 
between  commodities,  times  of  the  trading  day  and  between 
exchanges.   In  Hew  York,  for  example,  the  limited  number  of 
gualiCied  floor  traders  makeB  each  individual's  contribution  to 
the  market  more  significant  and  less  replaceable.   In  out  Crude 
Oil  market,  during  the  most  active  period,  65%  of  traders  are 
dual  traders.   They  trade  35%  of  the  total  volume  as 
market -traders  for  their  own  account.  They  also  provide  a 
significant  amount  of  brokerage  service  for  customer  orders. 

I  am  not  going  to  suggest  that  if  you  cut  the  dual 
trading  leg  from  the  stool  that  the  stool  will  immediately 
fall.   What  I  am  suggesting  is  that,  in  light  of  the  vast  amount 


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□£  doBtatlc  conaarc*  that  talics  upon  tba  ■tabilltr  of  tba  Btool 
foe  support,  anr  proposal  that  includes  a  provision  for  an 
inmadiat«  or  contingent  narket-wide  termination  of  dual  trading 
should  not  tw  adopted. 

Prudence  dictates  that  before  such  action  is  taken. 
Congress  nnist  have  a  clear  understanding  with  respect  to  eacb 
individual  market,  how  nuich  of  the  liquidity  provided  by  dual 
traders  would  be  lost  if  dual  trading  were  eliminated  and/or  how 
much  of  the  brokerage  capability  would  disappear  if  dual  traders 
chose  to  trade  solely  Cor  their  own  accounts.   Congress  must 
also  have  a  clear  understanding  of  the  effects  that  such 
fundamental  market  changes  would  hava  on  such  things  as  bid/ask 
spreads,  the  ability  to  execute  large  conaerclal  custoMsi  orders 
with  limited  market  impact,  and  the  amooth  and  orderly  flow  of 
customer  orders  through  an  already  stretched,  limited  pool  of 
qualified  floor  brokers^  Studies  by  the  CFTC  and  CBOT  on  these 
subjects  are  already  under  way  and  others  can  b«  expected  to 
begin  soon. 

At  the  present  time,  there  is  no  evidence  that  dual 
trading  is  an  evil  in  itself.  All  that  has  been  said  is  that 
the  practice  creates  the  perception  of  a  conflict  of  interest. 
We  submit  that  dual  trading  alone  Is  not  a  problem.   Like  other 
potential  conflicts  of  interest,  it  can  be  regulated  through  the 
strict  enforcement  of  rules  designed  to  prevent  the  abuse  of  any 
conflict  that  may  arise. 


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Pot  rout  tMn«fit,  I  would  Ilk*  to  doicrltM  Don  that 
syaten  Motka,  Including  how  aoaw  of  the  reconowndatlona  of  th« 
NVMEX  Taak  Fotca  and  provisions  of  H.K.  2869  might  onhanco  the 
Hystem  without  putting  its  efCiclency  at  risk. 

Th«r«  are  three  primary  methods  by  which  a  customer's 
order  can  be  taken  advantage  Of  on  the  floor  of  an  exchange. 
The  customer's  broker  can  'trade  ahead*  of  that  order,  depriving 
his  customer  of  the  beat  market  price,  while  raaerving  that 
benefit  to  himself.   The  broker  can  disclose  his  customer's 
order  to  another,  permitting  that  other  parson  to  benefit  at  his 
cuatoner's  expense.  And  the  broker  can  deprive  hla  customer  of 
a  competitive  market  price  by  prearranging  a  trade  or  taking  the 
opposite  side  of  the  orders  without  the  customer's  permission. 
Each  of  these  practices  Is  exnlicltlv  orohlblted  br  rules 
cutrentlv  In  force  at  Bvery  comnoditY  Hxchanqe. 

There  are  many  ways  to  ensure  that  ttsders  comply  with 
these  rules.   Begin  with  the  principle  that  in  handling  customer 
orders,  floor  brokers  are  fiduciariea.  Accordingly,  they  owe 
their  customer  the  duties  Of  care  and  loyalty.   These  duties 
represent  much  more  than  theoretical,  ethical  concepts;  they  are 
part  of  the  practical  reality  In  the  connoditles  market.   We 
have  many,  many  private  attorneys  general  as  customers  in  our 
market.  The  energy  markets,  like  many  other  commodities 


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BaikAts  In  this  counter,  ate  co«pti*«d  prsdoainantlr  o( 
■ophiaticatMl,  coBBaEcial  participants.  Including  Integcated  oil 
conpanlai,  producars  and  reflneca,  aa  wall  aa  larga  invaataant 
funds.  Thesa  partlcipanta  actively  aonitoc  futures  and  cash 
matket  pclce  noveaenta  on  a  aoBent-br-noaant  basis,  through 
Bcreens  showing  the  HYHEX  ticker,  by  uaing  more  than  one  broker 
on  the  Exchange  floor  and  by  active  consunlcation  with  upatalrs 
traders  throughout  the  industry. 

They  ate  nore  than  ready  to,  and  do,  challenge  the 
price  at  which  otdets  ate  filled  on  the  floor  if  they  believe 
that  they  did  not  receive  the  best  ultiaate  execution.  They 
have  the  powec  of  a  civil  action  as  private  attorneys  general  if 
thelc  broker  has  bteached  his  duties  of  cate  and  loyalty.  But 
they  have  luch  greater  power  as  ■  practical  awttet  --  the  power 
to  move  their  business  to  a  different  broker,  including  a  broBter 
who  does  not  dual  trade; 

The  Exchange  also  has  trade  practice  surveillance 
programa  to  ensure  compliance  with  its  trading  rules.  These 
piogrsms  begin  with  the  audit  trail.   The  BYMEK  audit  trail  la 
created  by  a  pit  card  system  that  requites  each  selling  broker 
to  submit,  on  a  ttanaaction-by-ttansaction  basis,  bard  data  Cor 
each  trade.   Each  trade  la  then  Independently  ti«e-stamped  by  an 
Exchange  official,  and  this  time-stamp  forms  the  basis  Cot 
sequencing  the  audit  trail. 


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It  is  the  onlr  audit  trail  HMcbanisin  of  Its  kind, 
providing  tha  most  accurate,  completa  and  tamper -resistaat 
procedure  for  audit  trail  creation. 

The  pit  card  Bubmission  procedure  enables  RYHEX  to 
continuouBly  input  all  trades  into  its  computer  system 
throughout  the  day,  and  display  these  trades  on  computer  screens 
located  on  the  Exchange  floor  and  in  the  Exchange's  Conpllance 
Department  for  on-line  taview.   From  a  self -regulatory 
standpoint,  we  believe  that  same-day  peer  review  and  Compliance 
Department  scrutiny  provide  not  only  an  effective  audit  traili 
but  also  a  significant  deterrent  to  certain  trade  practice 

SYHEX  also  uses  trade  Inforfflation  from  the  pit  cards  to 
construct  a  StceetbOOk  —  RVMEX's  trade  register.   The 
Streetbook  provides  a  chronological  trade  seguence  based  upon 
nlnute-by-minute  exchange  time-stamping  of  pit  cards.  With 
advancements  in  computer  technology,  the  Streetbook  information 
is  available  on  interactive  computers  for  selective  Study  and 
review  by  the  Compliance  Department. 

In  addition,  the  Compliance  Department  employs  computer 
assisted  surveillance  tools  to  monitor  trading.  Most  relevant 
is  the  '1C/4C'  program  that  is  designed  to  detect  potential 
cases  of  "trading  ahead.*  The  1C/4C  program  identifies  each 


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Instanca  In  which  a  brok«r  tr«d«s  Coi  his  am  aceaunt  bafote  oe 
aCt«r  axccutlng  his  custoniar-s  oid«r,  at  a  batter  price  than  he 
received  for  his  customer.  Since  its  inplenantatioa  In  August 
19S8.  the  1C/4C  program  has  resulted  in  the  opening  of  19  Eornal 
investigations,  o(  which  five  have  led  to  disciplinary  actions. 
Three  already  have  resulted  in  sanctions  for  floor  trading 
violations,  while  several  others  are  still  pending. 

The  (Inal  step  in  the  chain  is  an  effective 
disciplinary  procedure  to  punish  violators.  NYNEX's  Task  Force 
made  several  recommendations  very  sinllac  to  the  coonittee 
structure  and  publication  of  sanctions  requlreaents  contained  in 
H.R.  2869.   In  addition,  the  Task  Force  recommeoded  special 
training  for  disciplinary  conilttee  neadiers,  and  special 
penalties  for  fraud  and  deceit  involving  customer  orders,  such 
as  the  potential  suspension  of  the  privilege  of  executing 
customer  orders.  HYHEX- believes  that  this  regulatory  Cramewock 
of  rules,  audit  trail,  Bucvelllance/compllance  and  diacipline  is 
sufficient  to  deter,  detect  and  punish  trade  practice  violations. 

If  it  Is  not,  or  if  any  one  of  the  components  Is  not  up 
to  par,  the  CPTC  already  has  the  power  to  sanction  an  exchange. 
We  subnlt  that  the  appropriate  sanction  is  not  a  ban  on  dual 
trading  that  would  have  unintended  negative  conaeguences  on  the 
markets,  but  a  sanction  more  traditionally  ImpOBed  through  the 
CFTC'B  existing  powers. 

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Horeovac,  the  approach  to  dual  trading  in  H.R.  28S9  la 
overly  aimpliatic.  Pirat,  voluna  does  not  equal  liquidity. 
7000  contracta  Id  a  market  with  a  anall  deliverable  aupplr  of 
the  underlying  conraodity  repceaanta  a  different  level  of 
-liquidity*  than  7,000  contracts  in  a  market  with  a  large 
deliverable  aupply  where  large  traniactlons  nay  be  neceasary  to 
hedge  a  aingla  phyaical  tranaaction.  One  of  the  key  elamenta  to 
liquidity  is  the  ability  to  execute  a  large  order  without 
dlaruptlon  to  the  market.  ThuSi  In  a  market  auch  aa  crude  oil, 
where  a  500  or  1000  lot  order  nay  be  necessary  to  hedge  a  single 
transaction  o£  500,000  ot  one  nlllion  battels  of  oil,  the  7,000 
contract  volume  threshold  cannot  possibly  deaonstrate  a  liquid 
market . 

LikBHlse,  the  proposed  volume  threshold  does  not  take 
into  account  the  differences  in  volume  in  different  contract 
months.  Thus,  a  contract's  total  volune  may  be  7,000  contracts, 
yet  all  months  beyond  the  spot  month  may  not  be  very  liquid. 
The  proposed  bill  would  eliminate  the  dual  trader's 
market -making  capabilities  fron  all  months,  not  just  the 
purportedly  'liquid*  months.  This  problen  is  multiplied 
geometrically  for  options  markets  where  in  each  listed  month 
both  puts  and  calls  are  traded  for  a  series  of  strike  piices. 
AS  the  7,000  contracts  are  spread  among  the  various  series  of 
puts  and  calls,  the  liquidity  in  each  becomes  less  and  the  need 

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for  inccasiad  nurket -making  provided  by  dual  ttad*ta  ia  aora 
apparent. 

Tha  approach  is  ainvlr  contiarr  to  tiaditlonal 
selt-cegulation  where  the  needs  of  particular  markets  can  be 
thoroughly  addressed  and  sufficient  flexibility  maintained  to 
maximise  all  interests  affected. 

In  sum,  two  proposals  have  been  floated  to  addceaa  the 
perception  problem  associated  with  dual  trading.   RYMEX'S  Board 
of  Directors  met  yesterday  and  would  like  to  offer  a  third 
proposal  in  which  COMEX  concurs  in  ptlnclpla.  The  two  pending 
pioposalB,  offered  by  the  proposed  bill  and  by  the  Chicago 
ezchanqes  tie  a  market's  privilege  to  have  dual  tradera  to  audit 
trail  accuracy  and/or  market  trading  volume.  He  aubmlt  that 
this  is  the  wrong  approach.   If  there  is  a  lack  of  confidence  ia 
the  ability  to  police  tke  markets  to  protect  the  public,  then 
strengthen  that  ability.  The  punishment  of  banning  dual  trading 
will  hurt  market  participanta,  not  help  them.   It  will  make 
markets  less  efficient  and  drive  up  the  cost  of  doing  businesa. 

For  these  reasons,  NYHEX  offers  the  following 
alternative  proposal: 


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(a)  CongresB  shall  naodat*  that  tha  CPTC,  with  th« 
full  conaultatlOD  of  each  exchange,  ahall  detecmine  an 
apptopriata  standard  for  «ach  azchangs,  to  «nsura  tha  accucacy 
of  that  axchanga'B  audit  trail.  The  CPTC  shall  taka  into 
account  the  strengths  and  unique  charactarlstlcs  of  each 
system's  method  of  audit  trail  craation. 

(b)  Tha  Conaission.  with  tha  full  consultation  of  each 
exchange,  shall  develop  criteria  to  datemine  Hhathar  each 
exchange  is  in  compliance  with  its  standard. 

<c)  To  ensure  that  tha  traders  on  tha  floor  of  tha 
exchange,  who  actually  initiate  the  audit  trail,  are  hald  to  tha 
highest  standards.  Congress  shall  mandate  that  the  Conmiasion, 
through  regulation,  ahall  raquira  exchanges  to  adopt  tulas 
mandating  each  floor  member  to  adhere  to  strict,  objective 
standards  for  audit  trail  accuracy.  Tha  exchange  rules  shall 
provide  specific  and  harsh  sanctions  for  failure  to  comply, 
including,  ultimately,  the  loas  of  dual  trading  privileges 
and/or  suspension  from  membeTShlp. 

He  believe  that  this  proposal,  more  than  any  we  have 
heard  to  data,  moat  directly  confronts  the  issues  at  hand.   All 
bro)cars  should  ba  held  to  tha  highest  standsrds  in  audit  trail 
creation  accuracy.   An  accurate  audit  trail  is  the  optimum  means 
to  examine  the  trading  of  the  individual  for  violations  such  as 
trading  ahead  of  cuatomer  orders. 


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Ond«T  ttala  proposal,  Congcoaa  Mill  lovialktlvolr  •n«ure 
tbo  hlghoat  audit  trail  standards.  Tba  CPTC  will  retain  Its 
self -regulatory  authority  to  ansura  tbat  the  atandards  ara 
caisfully  tailored  to  achieve  Congress'  goals  while  pieserving 
the  co«petiti«eness  of  the  U.S.  futures  Markets.  The  exchanges 
benefit  by  being  penaitted  to  address  the  issue  in  a  forthright 
and  direct  ■annei.   If  an  individual  cannot  adbeie  to  strict 
audit  trail  cieation  accuracy  standardai  the  Individual  should 
be  punished.   Finally,  and  aost  iapoitantly,  with  this  piopoaal 
and  tbe  aany  other  surveillsoce  and  coaplisnce  iavroveaents  that 
ais  being  iBploaantedf  the  institution  and  the  trading  public 
benefit  fro*  systatas  capable  of  detecting  trading  abuses  and  by 
retaining  tbe  aoat  liquid  and  efficient  futures  Markets  to 
conduct  tbalr  hedging  and  price  discovery.  On  top  of  that. 
Congreaa  will  have  ensured  tbat  each  participant  in  the  process 
is  Cully  accountabiB  foi  the  integrity  of  the  systeai. 

I  thank  you  for  your  tiae  and  consideration,   I  welcoae 
any  questiona  that  you  say  have. 


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Addendmi  to 

Statsnwnt  of  Z.  Lou  Guttman 

ChairRMn  of  tho  Board  of  Directors 

R«w  York  Kercantil*  Exchange 

BBfoca  tha 

Unltad  States  House  of  Kapresentatives 

Connittee  on  Agriculture 

Subconmittee  on  Conservation, 

Credit  and  Rural  Daveloptaant 

The  Hew  York  Ketcantile  Exchange  CHYMEX*)  respectfully 
submits  the  following  additional  views  on  the  provisions  of  H.R. 
28e9. 


SECTIOW    101     -    DUAL    TltADTlK; 

RYHEX's  position  on  dual  trading  is  fully  set  forth  in 
the  Statement.  Dual  trading  is  not  Inherently  evil.  It  allows 
for  additionsl  flexibility  in  the  marketplace,  allowing  exchange 
members  to  service  customers'  needs  and/oc  provide  liquidity  as 
the  needs  of  the  market  change.  Until  studies  can  be  completed 
that  determine  what  effect  a  restriction  on  dual  trading  will 
have  on  market  efficiency  and  liquidity,  no  such  restriction 
should  be  enacted. 


The  only  problem  with  dual  trading  is  that 
the  perception  of  a  conflict  of  interest.   We  submit  that  the 
proper  way  to  deal  with  a  perception  problem  is  to  ensure  that 


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no  conflict  can  be  abusad.  Th*  ptoper  war  is  tbiough  •CClcivat 
rulei.  an  accural*  audit  trail,  aggcasiiv*  luiveillanc*  and 
compliance  programa,  and  strong  diaciplina.   N«  beliave  that  % 
HYMEX  haa  thesB  components  in  place  and  tbat  they  will  be 
further  atrengthened  through  the  adoption  of  the  recoi^Mndat iona 
of  NYMEX'B  Regulatorr  Review  Task  Force  and  many  of  the  other 
proviaionB  Of  K.R.  2B69. 

In  addition,  HYNEX  cecoMaends  that  the  following 
additional  measures  be  taken; 

(a)  Congress  shall  mandate  tbat  the  CFTC,  with  the 
full  consultation  of  each  exchange,  shsll  detenalne  sn 
appropriate  standard  for  each  exchange,  to  ensure  the  accuracy 
of  that  exchange's  audit  trail.  The  CFTC  shall  take  into 
account  the  strengths  and  unique  characteristics  of  esch 
system's  method  of  audit  trail  creation. 

(b)  The  Connlssion,  with  the  full  consultation  of  each 
exchange,  shall  develop  criteria  to  determine  whether  each 
exchange  la  In  compliance  with  Its  standard. 

(c)  To  ensure  that  the  traders  on  the  floor  of  the 
exchange,  who  actually  Initiate  the  audit  trail,  are  held  to  the 
highest  standards.  Congress  shall  mandate  that  the  Coonission, 
through  regulation,  shall  require  exchanges  to  adopt  rulea 
mandating  each  floor  member  to  adhere  to  strict,  objective 
standards  for  audit  trail  accuracy.  The  exchange  rules  shall 


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PEOvide  apacific  and  harsh  Binctions  for  failure  to  conplr, 
including,  ultimately,  tha  loas  of  dual  trading  privileges 
and/or  suBpaosion  from  raai*b«rship. 

Wa  bellava  that  this  proposal,  mora  than  any  we  have 
heard  to  date,  most  directly  confront!  the  issues  at  hand.  All 
brokers  should  be  held  to  the  highest  standards  in  audit  trail 
creation  accuracy.  An  accurate  audit  trail  Is  the  optiinum  means 
to  examine  the  trading  of  the  individual  for  violations  such  as 
trading  ahead  of  customer  orders. 

Under  this  proposal.  Congress  hIII  legislatively  ensure 
the  highest  audit  trail  standards.  Tha  CFTC  will  retain  its 
self -regulatory  authority  to  ensure  that  the  standards  are 
carefully  tailored  to  achieve  Congress'  goals  while  preserving 
the  conpetltiveneis  of  the  U.S.  futures  markets.  The  exchanges 
benefit  by  being  permitted  to  addreas  the  issue  in  a  fotthrigbt 
and  direct  manner.   If  an  individual  cannot  adhere  to  strict 
audit  trail  creation  accuracy  standards,  the  individual  should 
be  punished.   Finally,  and  nost  Importsntly,  with  this  proposal 
and  the  many  other  surveillance  and  compliance  inprovenents  that 
are  being  invlemented,  the  inatitution  and  the  trading  public 
benefit  with  systems  capable  of  detecting  trading  abuses  and  by 
retaining  the  most  liquid  and  efficient  futures  siarkets  to 
conduct  their  hedging  and  price  discovery.   On  top  of  that. 
Congress  will  have  ensured  that  each  participant  in  the  process 
is  fully  accountable  for  the  integrity  of  the  system. 


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SECTIQW  102  -  TRADIMG  AWMW  » 

At  tnCMEX,  mamlMcs  of  fotnal  biokar  affillationB,  known 
as  Member  Flrns,  are  already  subject  to  ragulation.  All  trades 
between  or  among  them  ace  treated  as  ccoss-trades  and  nonitorad 
as  such.   HYMEX  believes  that  this  trading  restriction  is 
sufficient  to  prevent  trade  practice  violations  while  still 
permitting  customers'  business  to  be  executed  opposite  the 
mazlimun  nunbec  of  willing  counterparties  to  masimize  the 
customers'  ability  to  participate  in  the  narket. 

RVMEX  does  not  oppose  legislation  or  regulation 
requiring  that  broker  affiliations  be  registered  and  their 
trading  monitored.  However,  HYNEX  does  not  believe  that 
legislation  limiting  trading  snong  affiliated  brokers  should  be 
imposed  until,  first,  the  CPTC  drafts  a  definition  of 
'affiliated  broker'  so  that  it  is  clear  to  whom  any  trading 
restrictions  would  apply,  and  second,  a  study  of  the  scopp  and 
use  of  affiliations  is  completed  and  a  determination  of  the 
necessity  of  additional  trading  restrictions  Is  made. 

The  CFTC  is  expected  to  convlete  its  study  of  broker 
affiliations  early  this  fall.   Accordingly,  legislation  on  this 
subject  should  be  deferred  at  least  until  this  study  la 
completed. 


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RVMEX  concurs  in  the  naed  for  an  accurate  audit  trail 
capable  of  pemittlng  th«  Recreation  of  trade  sequence.  An 
accurate  audit  trail  Is  a  neceasarr  component  of  an  effective 
compliance  effort. 

The  tine  frame  for  the  audit  trail,  the  method  for 
deternining  compliance,  and  any  sanction  for  non-compliance 
should  be  left  in  the  hands  of  the  CFTC,  to  enable  the  strengths 
and  unique  characteristics  of  audit  trail  creation  mechanisna  to 
be  accounted  for . 

NYMEX'a  audit  trail  is  created  by  the  pit  card 
submission  procedure  —  a  procedure  which  requires 
transaction-by-transaction  sufanission  to  the  Kzchsnqe  of  the 
hard  data  used  to  create  the  audit  trail.   (The  Escbange's  audit 
trail  also  has  several  other  components  to  reconstruct  trading 
activity  and  detect  Improper  conduct,  including  order  tickets, 
transfer  sheets  and  the  Time  and  Sales  Kepoit.)   HYMEX  believes 
that  the  pit  card  system  is  the  most  effective  mesns  to  create 
an  accurate,  tamper-resistant  audit  trail,  yet  it  is  the  most 
burdensome  on  floor  traders. 

The  pit  card  system  records  trsnsactions  in  the 

After  each  transaction  is  executed  on  the 


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floor  of  th«  Bxch«n9«,  th«  aell«r  is  [«qulr*d  to  aitbatt  to  an 
Ezchangs  oCfiCial  ■  pit  card.  Identifying  the  buying  and  selling 
brokers,  tbe  cocnodity,  nonth,  quantity  and  price  of  the 
transaction.   Tha  Eschanga  official  Imediataly  tiiM-stanps  all 
pit  carda  upon  receipt  and  that  tine-stanp  becomes  the  official 
time  of  the  trade. 

In  terms  of  audit  trail  accuracy,  there  ace  several 
banefita  of  the  pit  card  aysten,  all  of  which  deriira  fron  an« 
simple  fact  —  pit  card  tines  are  real  trade  transaction  times. 
Pit  card  times  are  not  Imputed  by  computer  programs  based  on 
assumptions  and  probabilities.  They  see  not  broker  entries  of 
eiecution  tinaa.  They  ate  tina-clocked  by  Exchange  officials, 
independently  recording  the  time  of  each  transaction.   Because 
the  pit  card  must  be  subaltted  directly  after  a  trade  ezecutlon, 
the  ability  of  a  broker  to  altar  or  amend  that  information 
without  alerting  the  Exchange  and  documenting  the  basis  foe  the 
changa  is  eliminatad.  Other  systems  permit  brokers  to  retain, 
review  and  create  or  ractaata  their  records  foe  a  substantial 
period  after  the  transaction  without  detection. 

The  benefits  of  the  pit  card  system  bring  with  them 
procedural  difficulties  in  achieving  the  sane  empirical 
'accuracy'  rates  aa  Other  systems.   Under  the  pit  card  system,  a 
trader  must:   <1)  complete  his  trade,  (2)  write-up  the  pit  card, 
(3)  submit  it  to  an  Exchange  official,  and  <4}  have  it 


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tima~Btamp«d,  all  within  60  ■•conds.  To  llIustEata:  luppose  a 
brok«i  has  a  nwEket  otd*r  to  sell  100  contracts  of  crud«  oil 
futures  for  a  custosnr.  As  he  starts  the  process  of  execution, 
he  is  sble  to  fill  only  20  contracts  with  one  broker  at  sn 
initial  pries  snd,  therefore,  continues  to  offsr  to  execute  the 
balance  of  the  order.  Nithln  noments,  his  offer  Is  tsken,  in 
pactisl  filla  of  20  lots  each,  by  4  other  brckera.   Asauining 
that  the  process  took  lesa  than  one  minute  to  coaplete  the 
execution  of  the  customer  order  from  the  first  partial  fill 
through  the  last,  there  is  still  a  possibility  to  comply  with 
the  one-minute  time-stamping  requirement.   (Although  the  broker 
could  stop  the  execution  process  after  the  first  psrtlal  fill  to 
submit  a  pit  card,  this  would  be  inefficient  and  might  result  In 
significant  economic  harm  to  his  customer.)  At  this  point,  the 
broker  must  begin  to  mtitm   pit  cards  and  subait  then  to  the 
Exchange.   Finally,  still  within  the  60  second  period,  the 
Exchsnge  officisl  must  retrieve  the  card  and  tine-stamp  it, 
otherwise  compliance  (fith  the  one-minute  standard  technically 
will  not  be  achieved. 

Although  ireKEX  believes  this  ia  the  most  efficient 
audit  trail  creation  system,  it  is  easy  to  see  why  compliance 
with  the  one-minute  standard  is  hardest.  It  is  slso  clesr  why 
the  CPTC  should  be  left  the  flexibility  to  determine  whether  a 
30-second  standard,  at  the  risk  of  losing  the  benefits  of  the 
pit  card  system,  is  an  objective  worth  pursuing. 


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HYIBX  haa  inv«stigat«d ,  and  Mill  contlnu*  to 
InvvBtlgata,  the  availabllitr  of  technologr  that  can  inpt«v«  tha 
Bpaad  and  accuracy  of  th«  procasa  by  which  its  audit  trail  is 
created.  He  have  exanlned  the  poaalbilitr  of  a  hand-held 
electronic  pit  card,  but  it  la  not  technically  feasible  at  this 
tine.  Congress  must  be  confident  that  tho  exchanges  will 
implemant  electronic  technology  as  it  becomes  availablB. 
Howevet,  it  must  leave  the  flexibility  to  the  exchanges  to 
determine  the  type  of  technology  and  the  timetable  for 
implementation  that  meet  the  trading  practices  and  physical 
facilitiea  of  each  exchange. 

secTiOB  ana  -  Tttr.KHABgFTTiif;  ntMm 

HXMEX  ezpreBBBS  no  view  on  Section  202  of  the  proposed 
legialatlon. 

SKCTIMI   203    -   imDEHCOVEB  OPBBATIOMB  AMD  EMFQRCEMEIIT 

Under  Sections  S  and  12  of  the  Connodity  Exchange  Act, 
the  CFTC  already  has  the  powers  granted  to  it  under  Section  203 
of  the  proposed  legislation.  Accordingly,  this  aapect  of  the 
legislation  is  unnecessary. 


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IRHEX's  IMgulfltory  R«vi«(f  Task  Forc«  has  recoi^Mnd«d 
chang«s  to  tho  RYKEX  disciplinary  conoittve  structure  virtually 
identical  to  thoso  containad  in  Section  304  of  tb*  bill.  Theie 
ar«  two  notable  exceptlona.  rirat.  HVHBX  would  not  allow  its 
staff  nembeiB  to  serve  on  dlscipllnaiy  connittees.  Sscoiul, 
rather  than  dividing  disciplinary  coonlttee  members  Into  the  two 
categories  of  floor  and  non-floor,  HYHEX  would  divide  Ita 
connittees  Into  the  four  categories  that  represent  its 
membership  —  futures  comnlsgion  merchants,  comerclal  trade 
houses,  floor  brokers  and  floor  traders.  Under  this  aystem,  a 
majority  of  the  connittee  would  still  be  comprised  of  OMmbera 
from  categories  different  from  the  respondent. 

NYMEX's  Regulatory  Review  Taak  Force  also  reconnended 
wider  distribution  of  notlcea  of  sanctions  involving  serious 
violations  and  that  persons  found  to  have  comitted  certain 
offenses  be  prohibited  from  service  on  the  Eschange'a 
disciplinary  connltteeB  and  Board  of  Directors.   MYNEX  would 
work  with  the  Conniaslon  to  develop  appropriate  regulations  to 
govern  these  matters. 


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Bcaard  of  Diraetof 

mniEX  does  not  bellflva  that  Congceaa  naeds  to  legislate 
public  participation  on  eschanga  govarning  bonds.   PraseatlTi 
ITYMBX  bas  thrae  public  directors  on  a  19  neDbai  board.  Choosing 
the  nost  afficient  meanB  to  run  ■  cotporata  organisation, 
including  the  balanca  batwaan  tba  detached  views  oC   outaideis 
and  the  hands-on  and  possible  salf-interastad  views  of  inaidera 
should  be  left  to  the  organisatione  tbenselves. 

SECTIQH    205    -    BEOUIBED    BBfllRTBATIQlt    OF    FLQOB    TRADEBS 

Nrnzx  has  no  objection  to  Section  209  oC  the  proposed 
legislation. 

SECTIOM   206    -   EHHAHCEWEWT  OF  HEC3TSTRATIOW  BEOUiagMglfTIi 

The  only  objection  that  nyMEX  has  to  Section  206  of  the 
proposed  legislation  is  the  striking  of  the  phrase  'Nitbin  tan 
years  proceeding  the  filing  of  the  application*  In  Sections 
8a<3)(D)  and  <E)  of  the  Act.  mKEX  believes  that  ten  years  Is  a 
sufficiently  long  period  oE  tlae  to  warrant  the  presupvtion  o£ 
rehabilitation. 


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secTicM  207  -  mffOBcnmrr  of  civil  mmmy  PEMALTigg 

mmEX  aspresses  no  view  on  Section  207  of  the  proposad 
legislation. 

SECTIQH  20a  -  ZTHICS  TRAIBIMG  FOB  HBaiSTRArTB 

imiEX  has  no  objection  to  Section  20B  of  the  proposed 
legislation,  except  to  state  that  foe  Exchange  mambec 
registrants,  the  training  sessions  should  be  adnlnistered  by  the 
Exchange. 

RYHEX  already  had  an  extensive  broker  training  course 
which  includes  a  session  on  the  legal  and  ethical 
responsibilities  of  floor  traders.  HVMEX  also  requires  all 

Members  to  adhere  to  the  Ethica  Culdalinea  for  Wemberg  of  the 
Mew  York  Mercantile  Exchange,  a  copy  of  which  is  attached,  that 
was  adopted  last  fall  by  the  Exchange's  Board  oC  Directors. 

SECTIQH  209  -  MATIOMWIDB  SERVICE  QF  PROCESS  AMD  VEHUE 


HYHEX  Strenuously  objects  to  the  provisions  of  Section 
209  of  the  proposed  legislation  insofar  as  it  is  unclear  whether 
an  action  involving  both  a  contract  market  and  any  other  persons 
as  defendants  may  be  brought  in  any  jurisdiction  or  must  be 


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btought  In  tlia  Jurisdiction  tibmtm   tha  contract  marlMt  Is 
locst*d.  Provided  that  clarifying  language  indicating  the 
latter  Intent  ia  added,  mCHEX  irould  have  no  objection  to  this 
provisions. 

gBCTIOM    301    -    DEFIHITtOM  OF  FOREICM   FtlTimBS  AtlTHORITy 

mCHEX  expresses  no  view  on  Section  301  of  the  proposed 
legislation. 

SECTIOM  302  -  SUBPOEMA  AUTHQRITlf 

mmsx  expresses  no  view  on  Section  302  of  the  proposed 
legislation. 

SECTIOB   303    -    CXMPERATIQM  WITH   FQHEIGIl   PUTOBEB  AIITHOBITIES 

NYNEX  exprsBsas  no  view  on  Section  303  of  the  proposed 
legislation. 


HYMEX  expresses  no  view  on  Section  304  at   the  proposed 

legislation. 


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HmKX  «zpi«sa*s  no  vlMf  an  S«ction  305  of  th*  piopos*d 
legislation. 


lYNEX  expresses  no  view  on  Section  306  of  the  proposed 
legislation. 


SECTIOll  401   -  AUTHQmZATlOM  QF  APPMPRIATIQIIB 


MVHBX  supports  the  petKanent  reauthorlsstion  of  the 
Connnodity  Putuies  Trading  ConnisBion. 


SECTIQM  402  -  ErFECTIVE  DATE 


mniEX  has  no  objection  to  Section  402  of  the  proposed 
legislation. 


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ETHICS  6UIDEUNES  FOR  MEMBERS 
OF  THE  HEW  YORK  MERCAHTILE  EXCHANGE 


coiiilillim  with  ttw  Ruland  By-L«<nal  the  Eidwngc. 
UK)  with  IM  lam  d  New  Y«*  Stole  uid  Hv  UniRd 
SUM.  Gtntnl  pol>cv  MUODnMi^iplyinB  to  (ll  NVkCX 


■  ne  Exdwitc  wtH  KCh  m  (I'm  *n<l  puiuh  i 
member  engaged  m  my  praclKt  whidi  u  uMthi 
«  <Ue^.  ShouM  the  EKtwn«c  diicovcr  any  bu 


9  in  iiivBti|attiia  Biqi  bt  lo- 
leipreUd  by  Slifl  ■>  an  alIaii|N  lo  aOed  IM  tome  or 
oulconie  ol  an  invotiption.  The  independeiKC  •ml  in- 
legnly  of  the  Contiliance  Dcfiannail  nqi  be  aiMiaetr 

Department'i  procedurei.or  taka  inue  with  any  acUoa 


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iatmMieido(Mowii.«iltDKlWrlyiRlhaiHUy  i"<o  pmoml  employmtM  ivgotUtkmi  with  ■  UK 
on*>hJI|B(ll>tii«ttiidon.'ninllreOofhiiitliliicliry  member  uiuil  be  diKloKi]  by  the  Dinclor  and  UK 
dut^  under  Iiwloanre  thai  hit  acltom  meet  the  itAiid'         menibertolhepreiidenl.aolhellheydono 


penonaJ  afUIn  and  the  ilUIn  (i<  the  corponHon.  In  h 


Kua  Ui  queMkHii  about  hu  duttei  wHta  the  Prei- 
I,  Executive  Vice  Preiklent  «  Genera]  Counael 


,    Mnvm  ON  IXCHAIMI  » 


ta-Ccn- 


■  Acceptu^  Remrdi  lor  OtHcial  Semcc  iQlllee  ii  a  way  of  giving  back  loi 

dkantfe  and  Iti  tnemben,  and  carri^  wim  it  a  r^^nst- 
-  MkMwUii  ComnMttn  Acbant  tor  Ptnonal  Cain  biWj  to  avotd  making  deduom  baaed  onadMikiHt 

•  Oncting  Stalt  ESorU  kr  I>erKiaal  Can  or  Fav«  '^  *"  **  '""'^  *^  ""  £»*•"»•  »"'  •■  "■»■ 


prohibited  in  any  farm.  whMlKi  the  rrwanJ  it  direct  or 


with  him  in  all 


DllejitimKyloapracliKwWchtime-         ^T" 
rctuitinproniplandapprofiriateducl-  |^, 


M  <4  hi>  phyiical  laciUbet;  or  on 


Hl-being  of  the  Exchange.  It  la  never  appropriate 


4.  Such  inAuoKe  may  properly  covial  of  p( 
iscuuion.but  when  inlluence  extendi  to  a  it 
■oial  financial  or  buuneei  mud.  the  di-         latkimhip  by  nKing  a  particular  way  on  a  CanniaM. 


A  Floor  Member  director  likewue  cama  great  weight  any  potential  conllici  of  Interest  anxuig  from  hia  duhea 

used  to  let  an  example  to  protect  the  intefrily  of  the  Fnpon«bilily1o  bring  that  quotKjn  to  the  full  Qmmtt- 

puhlic.  However,  it  improperly  may  be  uicd  to  intimi-  lev  or  lo  a  Knior  memtieT  ol  (he  NYMEX  atatl  auch  aa 

date.uwell  — loieekadvaMageouitradet.ortDDfIn  the  Piaidcnt.  EttctiUvi  Vice  PiMident  or  General 

impuiutytDottientobrei*thenile>.  CommiaalDnahar-  Counsel,  for  loolulwn.  Relying  on  ipiorance  ol  die 


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TESTIHONV  Of   BBHHBTT  J.  CORN,  PRESIDENT 

COPPEE,  SUGAR  S  COCOA  EXCHANGE,  BBPORE 

SUBCOHHITTEE  ON  CONSERVATION,  CREDIT  AND  RURAL  DEVELOPHBNT 

HOUSE  COMMITTEE  ON  AGRICULTURE 

July  18,  1989 

Good  afternoon,  Hr.  Chairman.   Ky  name  is  Bennett 
J>  Corn.   I  am  the  President  of  the  Coffee,  Sugar  k   Cocoa 
Exchange  in  New  York  City. 

Our  Exchange,  which  has  been  in  existence  since 
18S2,  is  the  preeminent  market  in  the  world  for  trading 
futures  and  options  in  coffee,  sugar  and  cocoa.  Our 
contracts  are  heavily  used  by  commercial  interests  engaged 
in  the  production,  exportation,  distribution  and 
processing  of  these  three  commodities. 

Over  the  years  we  have  seen  tremendous  growth  in 
trading  on  our  Exchange.   In  just  three  years,  our  total  volume 
has  more  than  doubled,  from  4,674,278  contracts  in  19BS 
to  10,019,664  contracts  in  19B8.  This  growth  represents  a 
solid  vote  of  confidence  from  our  market  users.   One  of 
the  reasons  for  that  confidence  is  that  we  have  constantly 
striven  to  maintain  active,  liquid  markets,  where  trading 
is  conducted  in  accordance  with  rules  and  practices 
designed  to  assure  fair,  orderly  and  competitive  trading. 


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Maintaining  our  pr««nin«nt  position  as  an 
international  market  has  required  us  continually  to 
inprove  the  services  and  facilities  we  offer  comercial 
traders  and  public  investors.  As  volume  increases  and  as 
technology  advances,  we  have  repeatedly  reviewed  our 
situation  and  committed  additional  resources  to  the  extent 
necessary  to  meet  both  present  and  futures  needs.   For 
example.  In  the  early  1960's  we  installed  a  major  computerized 
information  system  to  support  our  compliance  program  and  our 
market  surveillance  efforts,  as  well  as  the  overall  management 
of  the  Exchange.  This  system  was  praised  by  the  CPTC  as  being 
state  of  the  art  at  that  time.  Today*  our  needs  have  outgrown 
its  capabilities.  Therefore,  our  Board  of  Hanagers  last  year 
authorized  the  Exchange  staff  to  develop  whatever  improvements 
are  necessary  and  budgeted  the  funds  for  the  purpose.   Barller 
this  year*  the  Board  increased  budgeting  for  computer  egulpmenti 
systems  and  facilities  by  approximately  $5,000,000,  which 
represents  an  Increase  in  our  combined  capital  and  expense 
budget  of  about  one-third. 

At  the  same  time,  in  response  to  published 
reports  about  Investigations  of  possible  trading  abuses  in 
the  futures  markets  In  Chicago  and  New  York,  our  Board 
appointed  a  special  committee  composed  of  members  from  all 
of  the  trading  sectors  represented  in  our  markets  to 
review  all  of  our  rules  and  practices,  and  all  of  our 


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compliance  procedures,  with  a  view  to  Identifying  possible 
areas  of  inprovenent  for  raconmendatlon  to  the  Board.  The 
report  of  that  comnittee  is  expected  to  be  presented  to 
the  Board  In  September. 

These  actions  are  undertaken  as  a  matter  of 
discharging  our  self-regulatory  responsibility.   However, 
they  are  also  undertaken  as  a  matter  of  enlightened  self- 
interest.  This  Exchange  operates  with  powerful  competition 
from  eight  rival  exchanges  overseas,  most  notably  the  London 
Futures  and  Options  Exchange,  which  actively  trades  futures 
on  coffee,  sugar  and  cocoa.  Ae  I  said  earlier,  our  markets 
enjoy  very  heavy  participation  by  conmercial  interests  from 
all  over  the  world,  but  a  majority  of  our  market  users  also 
trade  on  the  London  Exchange.   It  is  very  important  for  us  to 
maintain  marketplaces  of  the  highest  quality,  for  if  we  do 
not,  it  is  a  very  simple  matter  for  our  largest  customers 
simply  to  take  their  business  overseas. 

The  basic  point  is  that  we  have  the  same  goals  as 
this  Subconunlttee.  He  have  to.  Our  livelihood  depends  on 
them. 

We  are  very  concerned,  however,  that  in  a 
well-intentioned  effort  to  benefit  the  trading  public,  the 
Bill  presently  pending  before  this  Subcommittee  (H.R.  2B69) 
will  actually  have  the  opposite  effect.  Unfortunately,  in 
its  most  Important  provisions,  the  Bill  proceeds  from  an 


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unproven  and,  we  believei  incorrect  premise.   It  then 
attempts  to  solve  a  problem  which  has  not  been  shown  to 
exist,  and  to  do  so  in  a  way  that  could  seriously  damage 
the  U.S.  futures  markets  instead  of  strengthening  them. 

Purthernore,  we  support  granting  the  CFTC  with 
broad  discretion  to  regulate  the  futures  industry.  Among^ 
other  things,  the  commission  should  be  free  to  take  into 
account  differences  among  the  exchanges  when  developing 
regulatory  standards.  The  Bill  would  have  the  opposite 
effect,  in  that  it  would  impose  detailed  requirenents  on  the 
Commission  that  would  erode  its  discretion. 

Section  101  of  the  Bill  would  in  effect  ban  dual 
trading  in  markets  having  an  average  daily  trading  volune 
of  7,000  contracts,  unless  the  relevant  exchange  can  show 
that  its  audit  trail  satisfies  requirements  that  may  well 
be  impossible  to  meet.  He  would  be  affected  in  that  at  present 
our  sugar  futures  trade  well  over  7,000  contracts  per  dayi 
while  coffee  and  cocoa  futures  trades  just  under  that  atraunt. 

'Dual  trading"  is  not  defined  in  the  Bill,  but  we 
take  it  to  mean  the  practice  whereby  a  floor  broker  trades 
both  for  his  own  account  and  the  accounts  of  customers 
during  the  same  trading  day.   While  that  practice  might  be 
perceived  to  contain  the  potential  for  conflicts  of  interests, 
the  fact  is  that  it  is  carefully  regulated  by  CFTC  and  exchange 
rules  designed  to  protect  the  interests  of  the  customers. 


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There  ar«  instances  where  those  cules  are  violatedr  and  we 
take  disciplinary  action  against  those  who  are  found  guilty. 
However,  there  has  not  yet  been  brought  forward  any  evidence 
to  suggest  that  in  fact  the  practice  of  dual  trading  is 
actually  a  najor  source  of  custoner  abuse.  To  the  contrary, 
as  the  staff  of  this  Subcommittee  has  already  stated,  dual 
trading  violations  are  relatively  easy  to  detect)  and,  if  the 
practice  were  banned,  those  who  are  bent  on  illegally  taking 
advantage  of  their  customers  nay  well  resort  to  techniques 
that  are  much  more  difficult  to  detect. 

On  the  other  hand,  dual  trading  provides 
important  benefits  to  the  market.  We  do  not  presume  to 
speak  for  other  exchanges.  However,  we  can  state 
categorically  that  dual  trading  plays  an  important  role  on 
our  Exchange.   In  the  very  brief  time  since  the  Bill  was 
introduced,  we  have  not  been  able  to  study  the  matter  in 
any  great  depth.  Nevertheless  a  quick,  preliminary  survey 
indicates  that  in  our  sugar  futures  market,  over  SOI  of 
the  floor  traders  are  dual  traders,  and  those  dual  traders 
accounted  for  as  much  as  00%  of  the  volume  on  the  trading 
days  we  reviewed.   If  dual  trading  were  banned,  there  is 
no  way  to  say  at  this  time  what  the  effect  would  be.  Soma 
floor  members  would  presumably  opt  only  to  trade  for  their 
own  accounts,  while  others  would  presumably  trade  only  for 


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custoners.  Finallyf  son«  floor  n«Hbers  tuy  find  that  It  Is 
not  ocononlcally  attractive  to  carry  on  only  one  business  or 
the  othsr  and  accordingly  withdraw  altogether. 

Whatever  does  happeni  trading  volume  could  be 
significantly  affected.  That  In  turn  could  reduce  liquidity, 
which  would  be  reflected  in  wider  apreada  between  bids  and 
offers,  and  in  a  reduced  ability  of  the  market  to  absorb 
price  changes  continuously  and  in  an  orderly  manner.   If 
liquidity  suffers,  buyers  will  pay  more  and  sellers  will 
receive  less  than  they  should.   Public  traders  will  be 
disadvantaged.  Commercials  will  incur  higher  costs,  which  of 
course  will  be  passed  on  to  the  consumers  in  the  supemarkets. 

In  our  case,  the  problem  will  be  compounded  by 
the  fact  that  if  our  markets  lose  liquidity  to  any  significant 
extent,  market  participants  will  find  our  foreign  competitors 
more  attractive.   If  and  to  the  extent  they  shift  their 
trading  to  the  foreign  exchanges,  the  problem  will  be  compounded. 

Liquidity  is  an  extremely  important  feature  in 
the  competition  between  our  markets  and  those  overseas. 
The  New  York  sugar  futures  market  is  regarded  as  having  a 
major  advantage  over  its  London  rival  precisely  because  we 
have  a  large  cadre  of  independent  floor  traders,  which 
London  does  not  have.   Indeed,  just  last  year  the  London 
Futures  and  Options  Exchange  held  a  reception  In  New  York  for 
floor  traders  on  our  Exchange  In  an  effort  to  entice  them 


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Another  consequence  of  banning  dual  trading  is  that 
more  experienced  floor  nembers  nay  decide  to  trade  for  their 
own  accounts  as  locals,  and  only  the  less  experienced  will 
continue  to  handle  custoner  business.  This  could  lead  to  a 
lower  quality  of  execution  for  customers- 
Please  understand  that  I  am  not  saying  that  all 
of  these  dire  consequences  will  occur  if  this  Bill  is 
passed.  What  I  an  saying  is  that  at  this  point  no  one  can 
be  sure  what  may  happen,  and  there  Is  no  reason  to  take 
the  risk  of  haraing  the  markets  In  order  to  solve  a  problem 
which  has  not  been  shown  to  exist.   It  Is  premature  to  take 
drastic  action  without  having  had  an  opportunity  to  identify 
the  problem  and  analyze  the  potential  effects  of  that  action. 
The  approach  taken  by  the  BUI  is  a  little  bit  like  firing 
a  revolver  in  a  dark  room  merely  because  there  la  a  suspicious 
sound . 

For  all  these  reasons,  we  respectfully  urge  that 
the  dual  trading  ban  be  eliminated  from  the  Bill.  The  CFTC 
presently  is  conducting  a  thorough  study  of  dual  trading.   The 
GAO  is  conducting  Its  own  study  of  the  futures  markets,  and  the 
U.S.  Attorney  In  Chicago  has  been  reported  to  be  conducting  an 
investigation  of  certain  trade  practices.   It  would  make  far 
better  sense  to  wait  until  the  results  of  those  studies  and 
that  Investigation  are  released  before  deciding  whether  any' 


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legislation  ragarding  dual  trading  is  warrantadi  and.  if 
so,  what  th«  preciss  nature  o£  that  legislation  should  be. 

In  any  event,  if  the  Congress  concludes  that  the 
U.S.  trading  public  requires  the  abolition  of  dual  trading, 
then  the  conclusion  should  apply  as  much  to  trading  on  foreign 
exchanges  as  on  U.S.  exchanges.   In  other  words,  if  dual  tradin; 
is  to  be  banned,  then  no  one  should  be  permitted  to  solicit  or 
accept  orders  from  U.S.  customers  for  execution  on  foreign  exchi 
that  permit  dual  trading. 

Those  are  our  general  observations  regarding  the 
proposed  ban  on  dual  trading.   In  view  of  the  very  brief 
period  that  has  been  available  to  study  the  Bill,  we  are 
not  in  a  position  at  this  time  to  comment  on  its  provisions 
in  full  detail.   However,  there  are  a  few  specific  points 
which  I  shall  take  the  liberty  of  calling  to  your  attention. 

First  of  all,  the  Bill  establishes  a  threshold 
trading  level  of  7,000  contracts  at  which  the  dual  trading 
ban  would  apply,  but 'then  gives  the  CPTC  the  power  to 
change  that  level  in  particular  cases.  There  is  no  basia 
for  the  7,000  figure,  which  is  completely  arbitrary. 
Determining  an  appropriate  level  requires  the  application 
of  expertise  to  a  number  of  factors,  such  as  the  extent  of 
commercial  utilization,  the  normal  bid-asked  spreads  and 
the  average  transaction  size.   If  there  is  to  be  a  threshold, 
it  should  be  set  in  the  first  Instance  by  the  CFTC. 


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Further,  if  ttiara  is  to  be  a  threshold.  It  should 
apply  to  each  nonth,  not  to  the  entire  contract,   it  nakae 
no  sense  to  ban  dual  trading  in  an  Illiquid  back  nonth. 
just  because  the  volume  in  all  months  conblnad  exceeds  sons 
predetemined  level. 

Among  the  exceptions  from  the  proposed  ban  would 
be  trades  to  correct  errors  at  the  opening  of  the  market. 
There  is  no  reason  why  the  correcting  of  errors  should  be 
limited  to  the  opening.   If  a  broker  discovers  an  error 
during  the  course  of  the  day,  he  should  be  allowed  to  get 
out  of  it  as  soon  as  possible.   He  should  not  be  forced  to 
carry  it  overnight  end  thereby  be  at  a  risk  of  substantial 
loss.   This  la  particularly  true  In  commodities  such  as 
those  traded  on  our  Exchange,  where  there  Is  active  trading 
In  foreign  markets  before  our  opening,  and  prices  can  move 
significantly  away  from  where  our  market  closed  the  prsvious 
day. 

Another  exception  to  the  proposed  dual  trading 
ban  would  be  where  a  floor  broker  in  affect  has  the  consent 
of  his  customer  to  engage  in  dual  trading.   Brokers  typically 
receive  orders  through  a  number  of  futures  commission  merchants, 
which  In  turn  may  be  acting  on  behalf  of  hundreds  of  customers. 
In  order  to  make  a  customer  consent  requirement  manageable,  the 
burden  should  be  on  the  customers  to  object  to  dual  trading, 
rather  than  requiring  the  floor  brokers  or  the  FCHs  to  solicit 


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consents  fro*  th*  cuat<»*rs.   In  otbar  wordSf  a  floor 
brokar  should  ba  allowed  to  angaga  in  dual  trading  unless 
a  cuatonec  directs  otherwise.   This  could  be  done  at  tha  time 
an  account  is  opened  and  at  any  tine  thereafter. 

In  sddition,  floor  brokers  generally  have  no  direct 
contact  with  the  vast  majority  of  custonars.   The  brokar  is 
selected  by  the  PCM  to  whom  the  customer  gives  the  order. 
Accordingly,  if  a  cuatouar  directs  that  his  orders  nay  not 
be  executed  by  a  floor  broker  who  also  trades  for  his  own  accoui 
the  FCH  will  have  the  responsibility  to  place  that  custosar's 
orders  only  with  floor  brokers  who  do  not  engage  in  dual  trading 

The  Bill  would  direct  the  CFTC  to  exempt  any 
exchange  from  the  dual  trading  ban  if  it  can  show  that  its 
audit  trail  *(i)  can  detect  any  and  all  instances  of  trading 
violations  which  tha  C<»u>ission  determines  to  ba  attributable 
to  dual  trading,  and  (ii)  la  fully  verifiable.' 

This  Exchange  has  and  continues  to  strive  to  make 
enhancements  to  its  Audit  Trail  System  (ATS)  to  maintain  a  high 
level  of  effective  self-regulation.   In  that  regard,  the  Exchan; 
Compliance  Department  and  systems  staff  have  an  on-going  dialogi 
to  improve  tha  structure  of  our  system.   Wa  monitor  our  ATS  sys< 
to  sea  that  it  is  functioning  effectively  and  assigning  trana- 
actlon  times.   He  believe  that  we  have  an  effective  time 
recording  system  in  place,  and  we  regularly  review  source 
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He  b«ll«v*  we  have  one  of  the  taoat   comprehensive 
systems  In  place  at  any  exchange  to  prevent  the  alteration  or 
fabrication  of  trading  records.  He  collect  trading  cards 
from  members  on  the  floor  at  the  end  of  every  half-hour 
bracket  period,  and  we  maintain  these  collected  trading  ca^da 
in  a  secure  area  where  they  are  not  available  to  unauthorized 
persons.   Accordingly)  trading  cards  come  into  the  Exchange's 
possession  frequently  throughout  the  trading  day  and  are 
thereafter  controlled  to  prevent  alteration.   Each  of  our 
trading  cards  has  sequentially  prenumbered  lines,  and  all 
trading  cards  are  sequentially  prenumbered.  This  prenumbering 
of  lines  and  cards  allows  our  compliance  staff  to  monitor  the 
accuracy  of  traders'  records  and  to  verify  the  information 
contained  on  those  records  against  the  Exchange's  price  change 
register  and  original  customer  order  tickets. 

Hith  respect  to  the  sequencing  of  transactions,  our 
Compliance  Department  has  standard  reviews  specifically  designei 
for  the  prompt  detection  of  violations,  and  we  have  adequate 
sanctions  for  violations  of  record  keeping  and  reporting 
requirements.   Further,  we  monitor  compliance  with  record 
keeping  and  reporting  rules  in  the  course  of  any  other  standard 
reviews  conducted  by  the  Compliance  Department.  Accordingly, 
we  believe  we  have  adequate  procedures  to  test  the  accuracy  bf 
source  records  and  to  prevent  the  alteration  or  fabrication 
of  source  documents. 


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In  addition  to  having  pr«numb«r«d  s«qu«ntlal  trading 
cards  on  which  all  linaa  ar«  nunbsradi  w«  alao  raqulra  that 
floor  nanbara  record  all  of  the  trading  thay  do  (both  for 
thenaelvas  and  for  cuatomars)  in  aequential  ordar.   Evary 
trada  axacutad  by  a  mamber  nuat  be  sequentially  recorded  on 
his  trading  cards,  whether  it  is  for  the  nanber's  own  account, 
for  a  housa  account,  or  Cor  a  cuatomer.   As  a  result,  the 
trading  cards  which  we  collect  from  our  nenbara  at  the  end  of 
every  half-hour  bracket  period  contain  that  membar's  record 
of  all  business  he  did  at  the  ring  in  saquential  order.   The 
docunanta  anable  us  to  reconstruct  each  individual  menbar's 
trading  very  accurately  against  the  transactions  occuring  at 
the  ring,  thereby  providing  us  an  excellant  audit  trail 
capability.   This  enablea  us  to  affectively  police  our  dual 
trading  rulea  and  to  detect  and  deter  potential  abusea. 

It  is  important  to  note  that  our  record-keeping 
aysten  differs  fron  many  other  axchangas.   For  esanplSf  on 
other  axchangas,  membars'  tranaactiona  for  their  own  accounts  are 
recorded  on  trading  carda,  whlla  custoiter  transactions  are  aaraly 
noted  on  trading  tickets.   Further,  those  exchangee  require 
■ambers  to  record  their  personal  purchasaa  on  one  aide  of  a  card 
and  aales  on  another  side  of  a  card.   Therefore,  they  do  not  have 
a  alngle  record  that  shows  all  proprietary  and  custoaar  trades 


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While  our  audit  trail  is  «xtran»ly  effective,  we 
are  concerned  that  the  standards  set  forth  In  the  Bill  may 
well  be  Impossibla  to  comply  with.   There  is  no  aystem  wa  are 
awara  of  In  balng  or  on  any  drawing  board  that  can  detect 
'any  and  all'  instances  of  any  violation.   Furthermore,  there 
Is  no  indication  whatsoever  as  to  what  it  noans  to  require 
that  a  system  be  'fully  verifiable.*  The  Bill  is  structured 
so  that  an  exchange  would  be  banned  from  dual  trading  during 
the  period  It  takes  for  the  CFTC  to  act  on  a  petition  for  relief 
—  a  period  that  could  last  months  or  even  more.   If  the  CPTC 
eventually  determines  that  the  exchange  has  met  Its  burden, 
there  must  then  be  a  90-day  waiting  period  after  the  CPTC  reports 
its  findings  to  Congress.   Only  then  could  the  exchange 
resume  dual  tradlngt  but  by  that  time,  liquidity  could  already 
have  been  lost,  and  the  harm  could  already  have  been  done. 
There  is  no  need  for  such  a  result.   The  exchanges  should  be 
permitted  to  have  dual  trading  unless  and  until  the  CPTC 
determines  that  the  f'equisite  standards  have  not  been  met. 

Section  201  of  the  Bill  would  require,  among  other 
things,  that  every  exchange  must  have  the  capability  to  time 
the  execution  of  all  transactions  within  an  Increment  of  one 
minute  by  the  end  of  one  year,  and  within  an  Increment  of  30 
seconds  by  the  end  of  three  years. 

Arriving  at  an  appropriate  standard  for  exchange 
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tines  without  unduly  disrupting  floor  trading  hav«  been  anong 
the  most  difficult  regulatory  Issues  the  CPTC  and  the  exchanges 
have  had  to  contend  with.  After  years  of  study,  debate  and 
controversy,  the  CFTC  adopted  a  regulation  that  in  effect 
requires  exchanges  to  record  the  time  of  execution  of  all 
trades  within  increments  of  no  more  than  one  minute  In  length. 
Each  exchange  is  permitted  to  develop  Its  own  system  for  meeting 
the  requirement.   In  compliance  with  this  regulation,  the 
exchanges  adopted  a  nupiber  of  different  systems.   Some  use 
manual  recordation  of  times.  Others  use  complex  computer 
logic  to  assign  execution  times.  Our  Exchange  adopted  one  of 
the  computer-driven  systems  early  in  19S8. 

As  an  informal  yardstick,  the  CFTC  has  stated  that 
it  expects  the  systems  to  achieve  an  accuracy  level  of  90%. 
Our  system  is  still  being  tested  in  operation,  with  problems 
being  identified  and  corrected.   He  are  confident  that  It 
will  meet  the  90%  standard  In  the  near  future,  and  we  are 
striving  toward  that  goal. 

In  the  meantime,  what  is  most  important  for  purposes 
of  monitoring  our  markets  is  that,  under  the  systems  and 
procedures  we  presently  have  in  effect,  we  can  (and  when 
appropriate  do)  completely  reconstruct  a  floor  broker's  trades, 
in  sequence,  so  that,  for  example,  instances  of  dual  trading 
violations  can  be  readily  detected. 


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It  Is  •xtr«Hely  pr«Matur«  to  r«quir«  at  this  tins 
that  th«  timing  incr«ments  b»  reduc«d  from  on«  minut*  to  30 
seconds.   In  th«  first  placet  there  is  no  evidence  to  sugg«st 
that  the  reduction  would  Improve  an  exchange's  ability  to 
sequence  Its  trades  to  an  extent  that  would  significantly 
improve  its  ability  to  nonitor  trading  activities.   In 
addition,  there  Is  no  indication  as  to  the  costs  that  may  be 
incurred,  or  the  disruptions  in  trading  that  might  result, 
from  going  to  a  30-8econd  standard,  and  there  has  been  no 
analysis  of  whether  those  costs  and  disruptions  are  justified 
by  whatever  benefits  may  be  derived. 

Section  201  also  suffers  from  the  fact  that  it 
contains  the  starkest  example  of  nicromanaging  the  CFTC  in 
the  Bill,  in  that  It  lifts,  almost  verbatim,  language  out  of 
CFTC  Regulation  1.35  and  raises  It  to  the  status  of  a  statutory 
requirement,  thereby  depriving  the  CFTC  of  the  flexibility  to 
amend  its  own  regulation. 

Section  102  of  the  Bill  would  make  it  unlawful  for 
one  member  of  a  broker  association  acting  for  a  cuatoner  account 
to  trade  with  another  member  of  the  same  association  trading 
for  his  own  account,  and  for  any  one  member  of  an  association 
from  effecting  more  than  25%  of  his  own  trades  in  any  month 
with  another  member  of  the  same  association. 

First  of  all,  I  call  your  attention  to  the  fact  that 
not  every  exchange  recognizes  the  concept  of  broker  associations. 


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H*  do  not*   if«  hava  rulsa  r«gulating  activitisa  of  brokara  having 
cartaln  ralationshipa,  but  w«  bellava  tha  natura  of  th«  rulas 
should  depand  on  the  particular  ralationahlp.  Thara  ia  nothing 
wrong  par  aa  with  allowing  ralatad  brokara  to  trada  with  aach 
other,  whethar  for  customer  accounts  or  thalr  own  accounts. 
Tha  objactiva  should  ba  to  anaura  that  all  tradaa  are  opanly 
offered  and  avallabla  to  avaryona  In  the  pit  or  ringi  and  our 
rulas  «ra  dasignad  to  that  and. 

Purthermora,  wa  ballava  that  a  35t  linit,  auch  as  is 
proposed  in  tha  Bill,  would  ba  vary  difficult  for  Meabars  to  aonJ 
Anong  other  thlngSi  whan  a  broker  nakas  a  bid  or  oftar,  there 
is  no  indication  as  to  whathar  ha  is  acting  for  hia  own 
account  or  that  of  a  customer.   Tharafora,  tha  opposite  broker 
or  trader  has  no  way  of  knowing  whathar  tha  25)  Unit  would 
ba  appllcabla. 

Hoat  inportantlyi  we  ballava  that  whatever  rules 
are  adopted  should  ba  left  to  tha  diacration  of  the  exchanges. 
He  are  not  aware  of  any  evidence  to  auggeat  the  need  for 
Congressional  legislation  In  thla  area. 

Section  202  of  tha  Bill  would  provide  that  no  one 
who  sollclta  an  account  from  a  customer  by  telephone  nay  enter 
an  order  for  that  account  during  a  coollng-off  period  of 
three  days,  with  certain  excaptlona.   We  assune  that  this 
provision  will  be  the  subject  of  coMoent  from  others.   Navetha- 
leas,  I  would  like  to  point  out  that  the  effect  of  thla  provi- 
sion could  needlessly  ba  to  prevent  a  customer  of  a  lagitlnata 


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brokftraga  housa  teom   taking  advantaga  of  an  Invaatsant  opportunity 
In  tha  coMKodlty  Barkatsi  prlcas  can  Bova  wary  rapidlyi  and 
during  tha  thraa  days  a  cuatoaar  la  ragulrad  to  cool  off,  ha 
may  mlas  a  good  opportunity  to  aaka  a  profit.  Such  a  custoaar 
Is  being  punlahed  bacausa  of  tha  fact  that  aoaa  hollar  rooB 
operatora  taka  advantage  o£  thalr  custoaara  through  high 
preaaura  sales  tactics. 

Ona  othar  obaarvation  la  that  thara  doaa  not  aaan  to 
be  any  basla  for  dlatlngulahlng  U.S.  futuraa  and  options  fro* 
other  iRvaatmant  products.   If  a  coollng-offi  period  such  as 
this  is  adopted  for  tha  protection  of  U.S.  tradersi  It  ahould 
apply  as  well  to  sacuritiasi  foreign  futuraa  and  all  other 
inatrumants  that  are  sold  for  Investnant  purpoaaa. 

Sactlon  203  vould  raqulra  tha  CPTC  to  'continue' 
to  cooperate  with  appropriate  Federal  aganclea  In  conducting 
investigations.  Hhile  cooperation  with  othar  agencies  is  of 
course  dasirablai  to  mandate  the  Conaission  to  do  what  it  is 
already  doing  saens  superfluous  and  unjustifiably  demeaning 
to  the  Conalssion. 

Section  204  would  require  the  CFTC  to  adopt 
regulatlona  requiring  exchangee  to  have  disciplinary  conaitteeaf 
specifying  the  coapositlon  of  those  comnitteea  and  requiring 
the  establishment  of  a  achadule  of  'major  violations,'  tha 
comalssion  of  which  will  render  an  individual  ineligible  for 
service  on  the  governing  board  or  dlsolplinary  cOaaltteee  of 


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any  »xchang«  or  r«gist«r«d  futuraa  aaaoolation.   In  patt,   this 
provision  la  suparfluous,  because  the  CFTC  alraady  haa  (and 
has  long  had)  ragulatlons  in  place  iraquiring  disciplinary 
connnittees  and  setting  standards  for  their  conposition.   To 
go  into  the  kind  of  detail  apacifiad  in  the  Bill  Is  for 
Congress  to  engage  In  mlcromanagement  of  the  CoDBisslon  to  an 
extent  that  is  contrary  to  the  entire  concept  of  appointing 
administrative  agencies. 

One  provision  of  Section  204  would  specifically 
require  that  a  majority  of  persons  on  a  disciplinary  coaniittM 
must  be  of  a  different  'trading  status*  than  the  respondent 
in  any  proceeding  before  the  committee.   Such  a  reguirenant 
could  also  result  In  depriving  a  disciplinary  panel  of  tha 
expertise  it  should  have  in  passing  on  questions  that  require 
intimate  familiarity  with  trade  practices  and  standards.   As 
it  happens,  the  Business  Conduct  Coanittee  on  our  Exchange  la 
presently  composed  of  three  floor  members  and  four  non-Cloor 
members,  and  It  did  not  take  any  statutory  or  regulatory 
requirement  to  produce  that  result.   Rather,  It  was  th«  raault 
of  our  applying  our  judgment  as  to  what  was  appropriate  for 
our  Exchange  under  all  the  circumstances.   Each  exchange 
should  be  left  to  make  its  own  decision  In  matters  such  as  this 
subject,  of  course,  to  CPTC  oversight. 

Section  204  would  also  require  30t  of  tha  meabera 
of  every  exchange  board  to  be  comprised  of  'outside  aaubers.' 


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This  seene  lika  another  exanple  of  unnttceseary  nicromanagcnant 
of  th«  CfTC  and  th«  exchanges.  As  It  happens,  our  rules  h«va 
long  provided  for  diversity  In  the  membership  of  our  Board, 
Including  public  nembershlp.   There  Is  no  need  for  a  statute 
to  require  this. 

If  the  Congress  nevertheless  decides  that  board 
diversity  should  be  mandated  by  lawi  we  suggest  that,  rather 
than  setting  detailed  requirements  In  the  statutSi  Congress 
might  consider  the  approach  followed  In  the  securities  laws 
for  securities  exchanges  — •  specifically  In  Section  6(b)(3)  of 
the  Securities  Exchange  Act  of  1934.  which  requires  that  each 
securities  exchange  "assure  a  fair  representation  of  its 
members  In  the  selection  of  its  directors  and  administration 
of  Its  affairs  and  provide  that  one  or  more  directors  shall 
be  representative  of  Issuers  and  investors  and  not  be  associated 
with  a  member  of  the  exchange,  broker,  or  dealer."  Presumably 
the  analogue  to  an  "issuer"  in  the  coomodities  markets  would 
be  a  market  useri  such  as  a  grower,  manufacturer,  processor 

Section  204  of  the  Bill  would  require  registration 
of  floor  traders.  We  support  this  provision  because  it  will 
help  the  CPTC  and  the  exchanges  to  keep  persone  with  criminal 
records  and  other  undesirables  out  of  our  industry.  He  do 
suggest,  however,  that  the  CFTC  (and  any  registered  national 
futures  association  to  which  the  CFTC  delegates  the  registration 


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function)   b«  «ncourag«d  to  adopt  a  t«nporairy  registration 
procadut*!    so  that  properly  quallCiad  parsons  srs  not  daprivad 
oC  the  opportulty  to  function  as   floor  traders  during  the 
sonetlmes   lengthy  period  that  their  applications  Cor  registration 
are  being  processed. 

Section  208  of  the  Bill  would  require  ethics  training 
for  all  Conmission  registrants.     He  strongly  support  the 
concept  of  ethics  training  for   Industry  participants.      Indeed> 
our  exchange  and  several  of   the  other  New  York  exchanges  already 
require  an  ethice  course  (or  new  members.     On  the  other  hand, 
we  bellve  that  unnecessary  duplication  oC  requirements  should 
be  avoided.     He  therefore  suggest  that  the  Bill   be  emended  to 
provide  an  exception  (or  persons  who  take  suitable  ethics 
training  under  the  auspices  of  a  self -regulatory  organisation. 

Section  401  of  the  Bill  provides  for  reauthorlsalton 
of  appropriations  under  the  C<Nnnodlty  Exchange  Act  Cor  only 
two  years.     He  are  disappointed  that  the  period  Is  so  short. 
Ha  believe  that  the  CPTC  has  demonstrated  that  It  Is  entitled 
to  a  permanent  place  in  the  U.S  regulatory  scheme.     Over  the 
past  years   it  has  built  up  the  expertise  necesary  to  reconcile 
the  goal  of  protecting  the  public  with  the  goal  of  accommodating 
the  reasonable  needs  of  the  businaes.      Frequent  reauthorlsatlons 
divert  the  Comffllsslon  Crom  Its  regulatory  mission  because  of 
the  heavy  demands  that  are  placed  on  its  modest  resources 
by  the  need  to  prepare  Cor  the  hearings  and  to  resj^nd  to 


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Congressional  inqulri«a.  Accocdlngly,  w«  urg«  th«t  the  Bill 
be  amended  to  gcant  the  ConunisBlon  psrnanent  status. 

He.  Chairman,  that  concludes  my  testinony.   I 
appreciate  the  opportunity  to  testify  before  you  today.   If 
you  have  any  questioner  1  will  be  happy  to  ansver  then  if 
I  can,  and  to  submit  the  ansvers  later  if  I  an  not  able  to 
provide  them  now. 

Thank  you. 


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Kr.  Chairman,  ■•Bbsrs  of  tha  SubcoBBltt**,  I  «■  Robart 
Fink,  Chairman  of  th«  Board  of  Commodity  Exchanga,  Inc. 
(Comttx) .  Comax  la  tha  world'a  moat  activa  matals  futuraa  markat 
and  ttaa  fourth  moat  activa  of  all  futuraa  markata  In  tha  Unltad 
Stataa.   Our  axchanga  providaa  an  arana  for  trading  futuras 
contracts  on  gold,  ailvar,  coppar  and  aluminum,  and  o|^iona  on 
gold,  ailvar  and  coppar.   Usara  of  our  markata  includa 
apaculatora,  coamarcial  and  industrial  hadgara,  and  major 
financial  inatitutlons  —  both  in  tha  V-,8.   and  abroad. 

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I  am  vary  plaaaad  to  hava  this  opportunity  to  ahare 
Comax'a  vlava  on  tha  Bngliah/Colasan  bill,  H.R.  2869. 

Ha  ara  vary  concamad  about  tha  ai^roach  that  has  baan 
takan  in  tha  bill.   Particularly  objactionobla  is  tha  appaaranca 
that  Congrasa  intands  to  daal  with  iasuea  auch  aa  dual  trading 
and  audit  trail  that  are  alraady  subjacta  of  coaprehensiva 
ragulation  and  to  lagislata  datails  that  should  ba  datarminad 
through  rulemaking  by  tha  Commodity  Futuraa  Trading  coamiaaion. 
This  couraa  of  dealing  with  futures  Industry  regulation  aaems  to 
b*   at  odds  with  atatamants  made  by  tha  chief  aponaora  of  tha 
bill  at  their  June  28  press  conterenca  and  the  provision  in  the 
bill  that  is  aimed  at  establlBhing  tha  Commission  aa  a  parmanant 
Independent  regulatory  agency. 


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On  Kay  30,  19B9,  tha  CFTC  trannittcd  «  proposad 
achadula  of  adalnlstr«tlv«  actions  to  Clialiraan  Laahy  of  tha 
Sanata  Coaaittaa  on  Agrlcultura,  Nutrition,  and  Foraatry.   Hia 
Comdaalon  statad  that,  aaong  othar  thinga.  It  would:   propoaa 
ragulatory  ohangaa  ragardlng  audit  trail*  and  dual  trading,  it 
any  ara  warrantad,  by  SaptaiAar  19B9;  publish  lor  public  coisant 
during  tha  4th  quartar  of  n   '89  a  proposal  rula  that  will  causa 
axchangaa  to  bar,  for  an  appropriata  pariod  of  tl*a,  thoaa 
»e*bara  with  aignificant  disciplinary  racorda  froM  aarving  on 
sxchanga  disciplinary  and  ovaraight  pansla  (a  final  rula  la 
axpactad  by  tha  end  of  Dacaabar  1989);  and  coaplata  tha 
aaaassaant  of  tha  infonution  on  brokar  associations  In  August 
1989,  and  than  dataraina  what  ragulatory  Inltiativaa,  il  any,  ara 
naadad.  In  addition,  tha  Conisaion  has  atatad  that  it  Intands 
to  ravlaw  tha  adequacy  of  raprasantation  on  axchanga  governing 
boards  aa  part  of  its  rule  anforcaaant  review  proceas  and  to 
recoaaand  further  action  it  tha  boards  ara  found  not  ba  be 
broad-baaed. 

He  believe  that  the  prudent  courae  to  ba  followed  is  to 
allow  tha  Coaalsaion  to  proceed  with  its  efforts  on  thasa  issues 
and  develop  an  adainlstratlva  record  that  can  aerve  aa  a  basis 
for  a  raviaw  by  this  6u]»coaaitte*  of  those  iasues.  TharaCora,  wa 
do  not  support  the  sections  of  H.R.  2869  Which  deal  with  dual 


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trading  (Ssctlon  101),  audit  trailB  (Saction  201), 
aaBociationa  (Saction  102],  and  diaciplinary  caaaittaas  and 
govamlng  boarda  (Saction  304}  and  baliava  thay  ahould  ba 
droppad  Crtm   tba  bill  at  this  tisa.   If  ttw  SubcoMtittaa  la 
dlesatlBfied  vlth  tha  avantual  actlona  taken  by  tha  Coaalaaion 
in  thasa  araaa.  It  can  hold  haaringa  and  taka  whatavaz  action 
its  daaH*  naoaaaary  at  that  tlaa.  Tha  pracadant  of 
congraaaional  Involvaaant  in  tha  handa-on  regulation  of  thaae 
■arKats,  prior  to  CFTC  action,  la  not  a  couraa  that  waa 
contaaplatad  Mhan  tha  CFTC  waa  aatabliabad  and  ia  a  couraa  that 
haa  not  B»«an  followad  to  data. 

During  this  raauthorlzatlon  procaaa,  tha  SubcoaMlttaa 
■ight  Hora  pr^^rly  ask  box  tha  CoBHisslon  has  dlscbarqad  its 
raqulatory  ovarslqbt  ras|?onslbilltlas  uith  raspact  to  its  areas 
of  concam.   In  Coaax's  viatr,  comparative  atatlatica  daaling 
witb  tba  sisa  of  tha  axchange  compliance  staffs,  expenditures  on 
coapllanca  prograas,  and  *onatary  sanctions  against  axchanga 
■aabar*  for  a  variety  of  trading  abusas  denionetrate  Burprlsing 
disparities  «Kong  the  axchangas.  Regulatory  revlava  parfonaad 
by  ttaa  CFTC  of  the  exchanges'  coapllanca  efforta  aleo  dlaclosa 
differing  degrees  of  coi^laitity  and  breadth  of  investigations 
they  conduct  and  of  the  violative  acta  uncovered  and 
sanctioned,   it  le  difficult  to  understand  how  a  single 
regulatory  aachanisa  can  expect  to  stride  saoothly  toward  tba 
goal  of  fair  and  honest  trading  when  its  tools  of  ■easuraaant 
tolerate  so  »any  standards  of  perf oraanca  aaong  its  eoving 
part*. 


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In  addition  to  th«  foregoing,  w«  would  also  atrcss  that 
to  proparly  avaluata  tha  naad  tor  imw  lagislation  in  tha  araas 
of  dual  trading  and  audit  trail,  tha  kir  auat  ba  claarad  of 
presumptions  of  tha  lack  of  warkat  participants'  Intagrity. 
Abaent  tha  ratnm  of  IndictMants  or  any  otbar  indication  of 
vrongdoing  attributabla  to  dual  trading  and  auggaativa  of 
inadequatQ  audit  traila,  wa  ballava  that  laglslatlva  action, 
partlcnjlsrly  that  alaad  at  rastrlcting  dual  trading,  la 
prawituT*.   In  fact,  until  Mor*  la  laamad  of  tha  findings 
raaulting  troa  thasa  invasti  gat  ions,  we  cannot  avan  diacam 
whathar  tha  types  of  conduct  which  are  the  subject  of  tha 
invest igationa  ware  not  already  detected  by  the  raspactiva 
exchanges'  survaillanca  prograaa  and  sanctioned  through  their 
disciplinary  procasaas. 

Finally,  the  Subcovvlttee  should  also  be  aware  of  the 
Introspection  that  the  industry  has  undergone  since  the 
disclosure  of  the  federal  Investigations  in  Chicago  and  jfow 
York.   The  Industry  as  a  irtiola  has  engaged  in  a  reevaluation  of 
existing  practices,  and  tha  exchanges  have  forsed  advisory 
panels  to  obtain  guidance  in  this  procaaa.  Congressional 
intervention  before  completion  of  this  procsss  will 
significantly  undenine  the  efforts  of  nusarous 

well-intentioned,  dedicated  Individuals  iriio  are  seeking  tha  sane 
goal  as  this  Subcomittaa  —  restoration  of  confidanca  in  tha 
■arketplace  through  enhanced  custoaar  protections. 


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DOAt.  TBADtWC  AMD  MIPIT  TBAILfi 

Section  101  ot   th*  bill,  in  uaAitc*,  would  prohibit 
dukl  trading  in  any  contract  »ar)c«t  whicb  haa  a  dally  avaraga 
voliuH  of  7,000  contracts  or  Mora.  Tha  bill  axpraasly  axaipta   _ 
froa  tha  ban  (i)  apraad  tradaa  axacutad  by  a  tloor  brokar  tor 
hia  own  account,  (11)  trading  by  a  floor  brokar  on  tfaa  opening 
to  corraot  arrora  aada  In  his  account  tha  pravioua  day,  and 
(ill)  tradea  axacutad  by  any  brolcar  trtioaa  custoiMr  apecifically 
authoritas  tha  brokar  to  angaga  in  dual  trading,  nils  saction 
of  tha  bill  also  authorltas  tha  CFTC  to  axa^t  an  axcbanga  frca 
tha  ban  if  tha  axchanga  daaonstratas  to  tha  CFTC  that  it*  audit 
trail  Is  "fully  varifiabla"  and  "can  datact  any  and  all 
Inatancaa  of  trading  violations  irtiich  tha  Coanisslon  dataralnas 
to  ba  attributabla  to  dual  trading." 

In  tandaa  with  tha  dual  trading  prohibition,  Saction 
301  of  tha  bill  would  raqulra  aach  axcbanga  to  aaat  tha 
ona-ainuta  trada  axacutlon  tiaa  racordation  raquiraaant  within 
ana  yaar  of  enactaant  of  tha  bill  and  a  thirty-aacond  trada 
axacutlon  tiae  racordation  raquiraaant  within  thrae  yaara  of 
anactawnt.  This  section  of  the  bill  furthar  diracts  tha  CFTC  to 
dataraine  (i]  whattaar  tbasa  aaasuras  bava  anablad  rapid 
reconstruct ion  of  an  accurate,  verifiable  record  of  tranaaotiona 
to  provld*  for  affective  rule  anforcaaant  and  (11)  whether  use 
of  i^rovad  tachnologias  can  iaprova  tha  accuracy  of  racordation 
and  aarkat  reconstruction. 


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CongrassBBD  English  stated  at  th«  Jun*  28  press 
conCaxanca  at  which  tha  bill  was  Initially  dascribad  that  thass 
provisions  hava  b««n  proi^sad  bacausa  "nona  of  tha  axchangas 
hava  raachad  tha  ona-ainuta  standard"  and,  as  a  rasult, 
datactlon  of  avary  Instanca  in  which  a  dual  trading  floor  brokar 
•ngagas  in  trading  abusas  cannot  Baa  guarantaad. 

Comax  takas  issua  both  with  tha  assmptions  undarlying 
this  lagislation  as  wall  as  tha  spacltic  provisions  aabodiad  in 
tha  lagislation. 

The  threshold  Issues  which  auat  bs  addressed  by  the 
SubcoBBittee  prior  to  passaga  of  any  legislation  are,  first, 
identification  of  the  objectives  of  the  legislation  and,  second, 
a  detaraination  whether  tbe  BechanisBS  prescribed  by  tha 
legislation  are  the  sost  effective  Beans  of  achieving  these 
objectives,   in  our  view,  adoption  of  tha  proposed  legislation 
is  inadvisable  when  both  of  these  questions  are  answered. 

It  has  been  suggested  that  dual  trading  presents  an 
Inharant  conflict  of  interest  and  poses  an  opportunity  for  abuse 
by  wrongdoers.  Hhlla  the  objective  of  banning  dual  trading 
a^ears  to  bs  the  eradication  of  potential  trading  abuse,  we 
balleve  that  tbe  abolition  of  this  type  of  trading  would 
allMinate  only  one  type  of  abuse  -  direct  frontrunning  -  which 
is  already  unlawful,  without  affecting  any  other  trade  practices 
that  disadvantage  customers.  Each  of  the  other  (also  currently 


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prohibited)  Bcthods  of  •ttacting  sijillar  rosults  Buch  a*  th* 
wittaboldlng  ot   cuatowar  erdaxa  and  ttaa  diacloaura  of  cuatoaar 
ordara  In  axchanga  for  profit-aharing  -  indlract  foxaa  of 
front-running  -  vould  raiuin  unaffactad  by  tba  propeaad  ban.  In 
fact,  your  own  Su)»coanittaa  Staff  Dlractor  has  advlaad  tba 
aubcoaalttaa,  during  tha  Hay  4  briaflng,  that  trading  abuaea 
will  not  ba  curtailad  as  a  raault  of  prohibiting  dual  trading 

...(t]ber«  ara  only  two  trada  violatlona 
which  a  singla  Individual  can  acco^llah 
alona.   Both  of  thoaa  abuaaa  can  alao  ba 
acootq^liahad  batwaan  tvo  or  aora 
indlvlduala. 

Thaaa  violatlona  are  trading  ahaad  of  a 
cuatoaar  and  taking  a  poaitlon  againat  a 
cuatoBar . 

Thaaa  two  violatlona  whan  axacutad  by  a 
aingla  paraon  ara  aaong  tha  aaaiaat  to 
dataet  in  an  accurate  audit  trail.  Thev 
atlek  out  like  a  eor*  r.hmh.   (BBphaala 
added.) 

mua,  tha  abolition  of  dual  trading  will  not  further  tha 

cauae  of  cuatoaar  protection,  such  a  ban  could,  and  probably 

would,  Bake  detection  of  aoae  abuaiva  trading  practlcea .aore 

difficult  to  detect.  Moreover,  prohibiting  or  livlting  dual 

trading  i^aas  aarioua  dlsadvantagaa  to  uaara  of  tha  aarkata. 

For  exa^le,  tha  praaance  of  dual  trader*  in  a  trading 
ring  aivplies  flexibility  that  enablea  floor  traders  to  respond 
to  changing  aarlcet  conditions,  e.9..  providing  iMwdlate 
additional  brokaraga  capacity  in  a  faat  aarkat,  thus  enhancing 
tha  efficiency  of  tha  aarkat.  This  flexibility  would  be  lost  if 
dual  trading  were  to  be  abolished. 


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Dual  tradsrs  arc  alao  vlawad  by  aarkat  us«r«  who  war* 
intarvlawad  bf   tha  BXchanga's  Spacial  Advlaory  Panal  aa  providing 
batter  brokaraga  aarvloaa  bacauaa  of  thalr  graatar  trading 
axpartis*  and  senaitivity  to  warkat  f areas.  Thay  ara  not  vara 
ordar  fillara  and  hava  thair  ovn  capital  at  riak  in  tha  aarkat. 
Tha  Exchonga'a  Panal  has  also  baan  adviaad  through  Intarvlawa  of 
tradars,  brokaraga  housaa  and  aarkat  uaars  that  tha  aB»olitlan  of 
dual  trading  is  llkaly  to  inoraasa  tha  cost  of  brokaraga 

In  tba  couraa  of  tbasa  intarvlawa,  all  intairvlawaaa, 
without  axcaption,  atatad  that  thay  uaad  (and  tha  substantial 
■Bjority  indicatad  that  thay  sought  out)  dual  tradars  for  tha 
axacution  of  thair  ordars,  notwithstanding  tha  potential  conflict 
of  Intarast  dual  trading  prasanta.  Nhlla  not  avary  intsrviawaa 
was  praparad  to  andoraa  dual  trading  unraaarvadly,  not  ana 
intarviawaa  articulatad  tha  viaw  that  tha  diaadvantagas  of  dual 
trading  aaritad  its  abolition. 

MoTaovar,  and  aast  iaportantly,  tha  affact  of  dual 
trading  upon  aarkat  liquidity  haa  not  yat  baan  fully  atudiad.  It 
is  iaparativa  to  dataraina  tha  affact  of  tha  prasanoa  of  dual 
tradars  upon  liquidity  in  aaeh  Mrfcft  prior  to  tha  adoption  of 
rastrietions  which  «ay  hava  an  Irravarsibla  Intact  upon  tha 
viability  of  our  aarkata.   HiaBa  aarkata  ara  not  tha  saaa;  aadi 
baa  its  cwn  spaoific  cbaractariatlca. 


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Th«aa  tactora  *r«  all  lBport:>nt  to  us*rB  of  our  »BrlC«tB 
and  b«ar  conaid«ration  In  waighing  Uta  »arlts  ol  curtailing  dual 
trading  by  legislation . 

Ha  ballava  that  it  is  inarguabla  that  an  aftactiva  audit 
trail  is  a  oomarston*  to  datactlon  of  trada  practica  abusss,  of 
which  diract  frontrunning  ia  only  one.   For  that  reason,  tha 
exchanges  have  coenlttad  substantial  rasourcaa,  both  in  tenw  ol 
nanpower  and  dollara,  to  developing  coeprehensiva  Methods  of 
capturing  trade  data  and  analyzing  tha  data  to  facilitate 
investigation  of  exchange  aatabera'  trading  activities.   As  part 
of  the  audit  trail  prograe,  tha  CFTC  has  sonitored  our  progress 
and  provided  advice  on  how  to  ieprove  these  ayataBB,  particularly 
in  tha  area  of  surveillance,  to  better  pertor>  our  obligations 
with  rsspect  to  the  one-«inute  standard  currently  aabodlad  in 
CFTC  Regulation  1.35.  In  fact,  tha  CTTC  has  been  actively 
engeged  In  detemining  the  verlfiability  of  the  date  currently 
collected,  the  extent  to  which  abeance  of  data  binders  an 
exchange's  (or  the  CFTC'b)  ability,  to  reconstruct  aarket 
activity  and  tha  use  to  which  the  data  is  currently  put.   In 
light  of  these  ongoing  efforta,  it  ia  unclear  lAiat  objectives 
this  portion  of  Section  201  seelcs  other  than  to  reiterate  the 
■andates  under  which  the  exchanges  and  the  CFTC  have  been 
operating  since  19B7. 


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ni*  second  prong  o(  tttm   audit  txall  ■•ction,  which  would 
halve  tha  raquirad  tiaa  of  racardatlon  to  thirty-seconda  within 
thraa  yaara  of  anactaant  of  tha  bill,  has  bean  propoaed  without 
putting  forth  any  eapirlcal  evidence  of  tha  potential  banetita  to 
detection  or  tha  feaaibillty  of  constructing  the  systama 
neceaaary  to  capture  this  data.  Absent  evaluation  of  auch 
information,  wa  believe  the  fiubcoaalttee  would  be  acting 
precipitously  if  It  ware  to  adopt  such  an  approach. 

The  third  provision  of  tha  audit  trail  section'  of  the 
bill,  Buthorlrlng  tta«  CFTC  to  exavpt  exchanges  fro*  the  dual 
trading  ban,  is  drafted  so  aabiguoualy  aa  to  create  a  "Catch-22" 
under  the  current  regulatory  structure.  Since  19B7,  the 
Cotninl ssion  baa  been  reviewing  each  exchange's  audit  trail  program 
to  deteraina  its  efCectivenese  in  enabling  adequate  aarJcet 
reconstruction.  Its  verlflablllty,  and  the  extant  to  which  It  has 
been  Integrated  Into  an  exchange's  Burveillance  program  to  detect 
trading  abuaaa.   Understanding  that  even  the  most  high-tech 
system  c^ppfttl  capture  every  aingle  Inatance  of  unlawful  trading 
(Buch  as  an  iaolated  one-contract  trade  executed  one  time),  the 
Commiaaion  haa  been  developing  trtiat.  In  Its  expertise,  ia  a 
standard  of  performance  which,  asaumedly,  will  apply  to  all 
exchanges.   Rather  than  continue  to  allow  the  Commission  to 
define  the  standards  by  which  exchange  audit  trails  are  moat 
appropriately  measured,  the  bill  appears  to  hold  the  Commission 
(and  resultantly,  the  exchanges)  to  what  may  be  an  unworKable 


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Btandard,  that  of  requiring  th*  d*v*lopBBnt  at   a  tully  varlfiabl* 
aymt«B,  capabla  of  catching  all  instances  ot   certain  trading 
aB»is*s.  This  result  iq)raparly  pre-^ipts  the  Cosalssion's 
authority  and  may  render  the  axeq^tion  meaningless. 

nie  thrust  ot   our  observations  on  the  dual  trading  and 
audit  trail  provlsione  ot   the  bill  ie  easily  distilled.   He 
believe  that  the  only  eftsctive  aeans  of  coabating  abuse  of 
custoaer  orders  ia  to  i^ileeent  (1)  Dechanlsns  to  capture  data 
tjiat  enable  tracking  ot  the  tlou  of  all  orders  troa  the  tine  of 
placement  through  execution;  <2)  eeana  of  anelyting  trading  data 
to  detect  patterns  ot  unlawful  actlvityt  (3)  use  of  the  data  to 
prosecute  traders  involved  In  unlawful  activity;  and  (4) 
iaposition  of  eubatantial  diaciplinary  sanctions  against  those  . 
adjudged  to  ti*   rule  violators.  Absent  any  one  of  these  four 
aspecta  of  an  exchange's  obligations  to  the  Investsent  ctnaeunity, 
customers  will  not  be  protected  to  the  extent  they  ahould  be. 

The  current  provisions  of  the  Commodity  Exchange  Act 
mandate  the  performance  of  these  obligations  through  rule 
enforcement  ravimra  ot  each  exchange  and  subject  the  exchanges  to 
entorcsnent  proceedings  it  they  have  failed  to  enforce  their 
rules.  Including  those  pertaining  to  dual  trading  and  audit 
trail.   Ae  the  Subcamnittee  Is  aware,  enforcement  proceedings  oan 
result  in  the  revocation  of  e  contract  mBrlcet'a  deaignatlon  -  a 
atrong  aanction  In  anyone's  view.   If  an  exchange  is  not 
complying  with  its  obligations,  w*  would  el^ect  that  strong 


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action  would  b*  taken.  Rather  than  supporting  thla 
'  adainlstrativa  procua,  thia  laglslation  iaproparly  diaadvantagaa 
custoBara  froN  tha  onsat  -  without  any  avidanca  ol  wrongdoing  at 
an  exchanga  -  fay  virtu*  of  a  veasur*  that  is  haralul  to  ttaoaa 
aought  to  ba  protactad  by  all  partioipanta  in  tha  regulatory 
process.  CongcasB  should  not  be  lagislating  to  cosbet  a 
perception)  a  negative  perception  altects  the  exchanges'  buainaaa 
and  it  is  In  their  best  intereat  to  coabat  it,  as  they  are  doing. 

Thia  provision  of  tha  bill  ia  further  flawed  in  that  its 
focua  ia  diverted  free  the  actual  wrongdoers.   For  exavple,  the 
bank  teller  lAo  aBbezzlea  bank  funda  haa  gained  accesa  to  thoae 
funda  by  virtue  of  hia  anployaent.   The  corporate  officer  vbo 
illegally  profits  frov  bis  non-public  information  gained  that 
infonutlon  by  virtue  of  hia  aaployMent.  In  either  caaa,  whan  the 
arl>e  is  diaclosed,  the  perpetrator  ia  brought  to  justice.  In 
neither  case  is  the  bank  or  tha  corporation  closed  for  business. 

If  this  bill  is  enacted,  it  will  not  be  the  trader  1^0 
has  illegally  taken  advantage  of  custoksr  orders  -  tha  violator  - 
trtio  would  ba  aubjeoted  to  aanctions  above  and  beyond  those 
currently  available;  rather,  it  is  tha  >arketplace  that  would  be 
restructured.   Nobody,  however,  can  speak  with  any  degree  of 
certainty  to  tha  affacta  of  that  restructuring.  It  is  «t  beat 
unwise,  and  potentially  disastrous,  to  prooaed  on  thia  path 
without  further  study.  Modem  technology  and  international 


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coBp«titiv«  laal  dapriv*  you,  *nd  ua,  of  tli«  liunixy  of  allowing 
you  to  b»  tfrong  on  thia  iaaue,  for  liquidity  onoa  loat  la  alBoat 
i  rratr lavabla . 

Clearly,  no  do  not  condona  abuaiva  trading  practicaa. 
Vm   baliava,  howevar,  that  tha  axiating  audit  trail  ayataaa 
adaquataly  dlacloaa  trading  abuaaa;  that  tha  audit  trail  aysta** 
will  continua  to  ba  iaprovad  in  an  evolutionary  Mannar  aa  naw  or 
l^rovad  tachnologlaa  bacoaa  availoblai  that  tha  induatry  la 
baco*ing  convincad,  aa  Coaax  haa  baan  for  aavaral  yaara,  that  an 
effective  aurveillance  and  coBpliance  progra>  is  neoaaaary,  and 
banafita  all  concerned)  and  that  the  IncreNantal  benefit  to  be 
gained  by  Boving  to  «  30-seoond  trade  tiae  recordation 
requira>ant  doea  not  justify  the  coats  involved  and  could  divert 
efforta  troB  tha  developsent  of  r*al-ti»e,  on-line  systeM*. 

Hm  tools  are  in  place  to  deal  with  the  abuses  of  dual 
traders.   It  is  up  to  the  exchanges  to  demonstrate  their 
trillingnasa  to  iiqiose  aerloue  sanctions  for  serious  violations 
and  tor  the  Coasiaslon  to  ensure  that  these  efforts  are 
undertaken,   if  those  coBvitBenta  are  not  aade,  the  data 
generated  by  the  exchanges'  audit  traila  are  Barely  so  aany 
aquigglea  on  a  piece  of  paper.   CoBOx  has  a  long  history 
evidencing  its  commltaant  to  enforcing  its  trading  rules,  and  the 
Industry  as  a  irtiole  is  now  adopting  a  auch  stronger  regulatory 
presence.  Extensive  studies  have  B>e«n  undertakMi  and  will 
continue  to  be  coBslssioned  for  one  slspla  reason  -  It  Is  in  our 


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self-intarsat  to  do  ao.   Givan  that  aelf-intereat  and  our 
expartlaa  In  vbat  we  do,  we  ahould  ba  allowed  to  aae  theae 
efforts  through  to  fruition,  ftt  that  point,  your  evaluation  of 
progress  would  be  welcoked. 

aaoKBt  ASSOCIATIOIIg 

Proposed  Section  1D2  of  the  legislation  would  prohibit 
aeabers  of  broker  BBBooiationa  froB  executing  ouataaer  orders 
opposite  the  personal  accounta  of  aenbera  of  the  association  (or 
the  house  account  of  the  association)  and  would  llait  the  aaount 
of  trading  which  could  be  done  between  aeabera  of  the  aasocietion 
(presuaably  without  regard  to  whether  the  trading  is  for  their 
own  accounts  or  tor  customers)  to  a  fixed  percentage  <as  percent) 
of  the  associates'  and  the  aasoclation's  trading  activity. 
Assuning  that  a  clear  definition  of  "broker  association"  can  be 
devised,  Coaex  has  no  objection  to  adoption  of  a  prohibition 
against  trading  ousta*ers'  orders  (defined  by  CTTC  regulations  as 
a  type  "4"  trade)  opposite  house  (defined  by  CFTC  regulations  as 
a  type  "2"  trade)  or  personal  (defined  by  CFTC  regulations  as  a 
type  "1"  trade)  accounts.  In  fact,  Coeex  has  had  such  a  rule  in 
place  for  seven  years,  treating  this  type  of  transaction  as  an 
lq>ertiiSBible  cross-trade. 

The  second  part  of  this  section  of  the  bill,  which 
lleits  trading  between  associated  brolcers  to  a  fixed  percentage 
of  trades,  poses  serious  problsMS  to  custoaer  interests  and 


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should  not  b«  adoptad.  TIm  typ*  ot  llaitAtion  propoawd 
'  prttaiqipoBSB  that  thara  ia  alwaya  autfloiant  liquidity  to  anabla 
th«  axaeution  of  any  ouatoaar  ordar,  ragardlaaa  of  tha  alia  of 
ttia  ordar  or  ttia  dapth  of  tha  Mirkat  In  tha  contract  month  to 
irtiich  tha  ordar  appllaa.  This  aaausption  is  not  borne  out  in  all 
MUrBtats  or  in  all  contract  aontba,  tharaby  giving  rlae  to  tha 
poBBifallity  that  a  brokar  could  not  fill  a  custoaar  ordar  siaply 
bacauaa  ha  had  alraady  tradad  hia  tixad  allotaant  of  trodos 
oppoaita  othar  aaatiara  of  hia  aaaociation  that  day.   For  that 
raaaon,  wa  ballare  that  no  atatutory  llaitation  ahould  ba  placad 
on  tha  axeoution  of  ouatoaar  orders  agalnat  other  custoaar 

A  Bora  affaotlva  approach  to  this  issue  would  be 
exchange -adopted  rules  requiring  the  registration  of  all 
afflllationa  on  the  exchange  on  which  the  group  ia  trading.  Bach 
exchange  should  then  ba  responsible  as  part  of  Its  cmipliance 
prograa  (subject  to  CFTC  review  through  Its  rule  anforceaent 
prograae)  to  Monitor  tha  custover  trades  executed  between 
affiliated  aaBiberB  to  sBBura  that  no  unlawful  activity  haa  bean 
undertalEan.   In  light  of  the  exchangea'  already-atatad  ooMaitBant 
to  pursuing  this  course,  legislation  of  this  nature  is 


PgRtOD    QF    RKMlTHORIZMIOll 

Ha  sunwrt  a  fraaework  for  rssiithorlsation  that  will 
allow  the  coaaiBslon  to  effectively  continue  fulfilling  its 
responsibilitiaa.   The  exlatlng  syste*  ia  a  aignifioant  drain  c 


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CFTC  raBcnircaa  anil  delaya  naaded  changea  and  developKanU. 
CongresBlonal  ovaraight  of  tha  agancy  should  ba  ongoing  and  not 
Blaply  "glnned-up"  for  raauthori cation.   Ukmriaa,  tba  CoMMiaslon 
ahould  aubvit  racoHMndad  lagialatlva  ctiangas  aa  tba  na«d  ariaes 
and  not  wait  to  praaant  than  in  a  raauthorisatlon  packaga.  At 
thia  point  in  tlMa,  no  on*  is  quastioning  tha  contlnuad  axlstanca 
of  tha  CFTC,  and  it  should  not  be  hald  hostaga  to  a  laborioua 
raauthori cation  procaas. 

UHDERCQVER  StntVEILL^MCE 

Saction  203  of  tha  bill  aMands  tha  CoBnodlty  Exchange 
Act  to  axprassly  authorlsa  tha  ConniBBion  to  participata  in 
jolnt-tadaral  agancy  invastigations  -  a  practice  which  baa  baan 
ongoing  for  years  -  and  notes  that  these  inveatigationa  mmy 
ancoepaaa  "undercover  operations."  Absent  any  restrictions  on 
the  CoMeiBBion'a  inveatigative  techniques  or  authority  in  the 
current  language  of  Section  8(a)  at   the  Connodity  Exchange  Act, 
this  Bupplenentary  provision  1b  unnecessary. 

GOVBRHIHG    BOARDS    ADD    DISCIPLIMARV    COMpTTEgp 

Proposed  Section  204  would  (l)  require  that  the  board  of 
each  exchange  and  the  NPA  include  a  fixed  percentage  of  "outside 
maabers"  (as  defined  by  the  CFTC) i  (3)  require  the  CFTC  to  issue 
regulations  calling  for  the  aatabllshBsnt  of  a  systea  of  exchange 
diaciplinary  coaaittees;  (3)  require  the  CFTC  to  Ibbuc 


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rcgulatloiw  requiring  axctuuiqca  to  aatabliBh  and  vaka  publicly 
availabla  a  achadula  of  its  "aajor"  vlolationai  and  (4)  bar 
wawbara  of  an  excbang*  trtio  hava  angagad  in  "aajor"  (aa  dafinad  by 
an  axchanga)  violationa  of  that  axchanga'a  rulaa  Croa  aarving  on 
that  axchanga'a  board  or  diaciplinary  conaittaaa  tor  a  pariod  of 
tiaa  to  be  apacifiad  by  the  Crrc. 

&i Coanoaltlon  of  the  Board 

Purauant  to  by-law,  tha  Ca*ax  Board  of  Govemora  la 
coBpriaad  of  aavan  rapraaentatlvas  of  tha  trading  floor  (tha 
Floor  Group),  aavan  representatlveB  of  futurea  commission 
■erchanta  (the  Commission  Houae  Group),  aeven  T-aprasentatives  of 
tha  aatala  trade  (tha  Trade  Group),  three  non-aeabara ,  and  a 
■aMbar  chairman  elected  by  the  full  aaaberahip  of  the  Sxchanga. 
tha  Matala  trade  (tha  Trade  Group),  three  non-a^ibara,  and  a 
■aMbar  chairman  elected  by  the  full  membership  of  the  sxchange. 
Tha  Exchanga'a  intent  in  aatabliahing  thla  form  of  governance  waa 
to  anaure  diveraity  of  viewa  during  deliberations  on  all  policy 
iaauea,  to  provide  for  rapraaantatlon  of  all  aactora  of  uaara  of 
our  markets,  and  to  obtain  guidance  from  individnala  unralatad  to 
tha  Bxcbanga  and  its  aaabara  on  mattara  affecting  the  public 
inter est. 

In  many  exchanges'  experience.  It  is  often  difficult  to 
solicit  aervice  by  non-markat  participants  irtio  will  offar  a 
■ubatantlal  dagree  of  indepandenca  from  tha  laadarabip  of  tha 


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■xchanga,  who  are  willing  to  d«valop  axpartia*  ralavant  to  ttt* 
iaaiMa  at  hand,  and  who  ar*  capabla  of  coMmltting  tha  tiaa  nasded 
to  aaaiat  in  what  ia  often  protracted  dacialoraMking.   For  that 
raaoon,  w*  baliava  that  tha  daaignation  of  any  fixad  parcantage 
of  non-»^Db«r  oeate  on  a  board  or  coBnittea  through  lagielation 
without  ragard  to  tha  difficultlea  in  obtaining  "quality" 
repraaentation  la  a  alaguided  intrualon  into  exchange  corporate 
attalra  and  is  nerely  an  expedient  nethod  of  desonstrating 
representation  of  tha  public  Interaat  without  aubatance. 

Ne  would  alao  object  to  lagialation  deaigned  nerely  to 
aasure  that  pereona  other  than  floor  tradera  (auch  aa  individuala 
eaployed  by  wire  or  trade  houaes)  are  rapraaented  on  governing 
boarda.   Nhlle  wa  believe  that  an  exchange's  dacisionaalcars  must 
represent  all  faceta  of  tha  investment  couMunity  to  assure  that 
'  tha  axchanga's  deciaions  are  aada  in  good  faith  and  that  tha 
public's  intaraats  are  pronoted  above  thoaa  of  the  Baaberahip, 
tha  actual  coBpoaltion  of  a  board  should  not  ba  a  subject  of 
federal  legislation.   Instead,  aa  ia  currently  the  eaBa,.th« 
focua  of  oversight,  whether  by  Congress  or  the  CFTC,  should 
ba  upon  tha  deciBions  reached  by  an  exchange's  governors  to 
detenina  whether  the  exchange  has  axerciaed  its  self- regulatory 
responaibilitiea  properly. 


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Ai "— ™*H"i  of  DiaciTii*— ~  '•'— llrtlM 

CoMMt  talus  ioBu*  with  tbm   proposal  vasting  tba  cftc 
with  authority  to  •stablish  a  atructura  for  axchange  diaclpllnary 
coaaittaaa  aa  wall  aa  with  the  Btataaaiita  of  ona  of  tha  bill's 
sponsors  that  a  conClict  axists  trtian  floor  saabara  pass  judgaant 
on  thair  colleaguas  and  that  this  "conflict  laada  to  lanlancy". 

First,  it  has  bean  Co»ax'a  exparience  that  the  floor 
■wbara  aaatad  on  our  diaclpllnary  coaBitteaa  ara  often  tha 
harahest  critics  of  their  paara,  the  aost  expert  at  ferreting  out 
trading  abuaea,  and  not  at  ell  reluctant  to  aete  out  sanctions 
that  other  aealMrs  asy  via*  as  harsh. 

Second,  while  we  agree  that  to  fulfill  Ita  rule 
enforceaent  rasponsibilitias,  tha  SROa'  disciplinary  coaaittaas 
should  include  aaalMrs  of  "groups"  other  than  that  of  the 
respondent  (such  as  floor  vs.  off-floor  neaberB) ,  we  believe  that 
this  issue  of  coaaittee  coaposition,  like  that  of  board 
co^OBition,  is  not  a  proper  subject  of  federal  legialation. 

Siailar  to  our  Board  coaposition,  by  practice  all 
disciplinary  coMaittaaa  at  Conax  are  coaprisad  of  rapraaantativaa 
of  each  of  our  aeabership  groups,  and  aeabers  of  adjudicatory 
panels  are  appointed  by  tha  Board  with  repraaentation  of  each  of 
these,  as  wall  as  tha  non-aaaber  groups.  Notwithstanding  our  own 


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adharanc*  to  this  aystaa,  tra  ballava  that  apaclficatlon  of  tha 
typaa  of  indlviduala  aarvlng  on  dlaclpllnary  connittaaa  by 
lagialatlon  la  an  Inpropar  intrualon  Into  exchangaa'  gavacnanca 
and  arroneoualy  locuaaa  on  tha  appaaranca  ol  the  dalibarating 
body  rathar  than  on  tha  resulta  of  Ita  dalibarationa.   Inataad, 
as  is  already  the  casa,  federal  overaight  ahould  be  concarnad 
with  the  ustM  ot   an  exchanga'a  dlaclpllnary  conalttaoa  to 
detaraine  whether  the  exchange  ia  properly  enforcing  Its  rules 
and  Is  adequately  sanctioning  violators  of  those  rules.  To  do 
otherwise  placaa  for*  over  subatanca  and  diverts  attention  froa 
the  main  thrust  of  oversight,  which  is  the  adequacy  of  the 
exchanges'  self -regulatory  prograna. 

As  a  technical  natter,  we  further  note  that  the  specific 
proposal  calling  for  the  astabllshxent  of  hearing  panels  conposed 
of  "a  majority  of  parsons  who  are  of  a  different  trading  status 
than  tha  reapondent"  (e.g.,  floor  aeaber  va.  off-floor  Baabar) 
will  require  the  establlshMant  of  aaparata  hearing  panela  for 
each  case,  tharafay  rendering  laore  difficult  thla  exchange's 
objective  of  davaloping  consistent  approaches  to  rule  violations 
and  sanctiona  within  our  diBolpllnary  coBnlttesa.  Thla  result 
Bust  be  anticipated  if  tha  legialation  ia  adopted  and  serves  to 
undermine  tha  objective  wa  asau>a  la  sought  by  tha  Subc^nittaa. 


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£■ IM-nn-HMcatlnn  for  »nl»  viol.tin™ 

Under  our  nil««,  any  Individual  wbo  has  baan  flnad  by 
Coaax  in  axcasa  of  fl.OOO  is  diaqualifiad  from   aarvica  on  tha 
Kitohanga'B  disciplinary  conoiittaas  tor  a  pariod  of  two  (3)  yaara 
aftar  tha  aanctlon  has  baan  isposed.  It  is  our  undaratanding 
that  othar  axchangaa  bava  adoptad,  or  ara  In  tha  prooaaa  of 
avaluatin?  proposala  to  adopt,  slailar  disqualification 
proviaiena  for  their  disciplinary  coaaittcas  and/or  governing 
boards.   In  light  of  the  likelihood  that  thla  issue  will  be 
resolved  by  all  of  the  exchanges  without  legislation.  In  a  aannar 
best  suited  to  each  axchanga'a  Intarpratatlons  of  its  rules,  it 
is  our  view  that  thla  provision  of  tha  bill  ia  unnecessary. 


CoBex  aupporta  the  three-day  "eooling-off"  period  for 
f  irst-tlsa  speculative  custoaere  who  have  B»een  solicited,  by 
tel^ione  contained  in  section  202 .   such  a  provision  should  not 
be  disruptive  and  should  discourage  sose  of  the  telephona  scut 
operators.  In  the  saiw  vein,  we  have  expressed  our  support  for 
the  Telskarketing  Fraud  Prevention  Act  of  1969  pending  before  the 
House  Energy  and  Cosnerce  convittee. 


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CoBsx  do«s  not  object  to  laglBlatlon  tbat  would  require 
the  registration  of  floor  traders,  and  Co>ax  also  does  not  object 
to  suppleBentation  of  the  dlaquallflcatlon  provisions  currently 
embodied  in  the  CoMMdity  Exchange  Act,  with  the  exception  oC  the 
proposed  insertion  of  language  Into  Section  Ba(3) (k)  of  the  Act 
regarding  "conduct  inconsistent  with  just  end  equitable 
principles  of  trade,"  since  this  type  of  violation  1*  applied  by 
the  exchanges  without  unilonity  end  does  not  address  specKic 
behavior  sl*ilar  to  the  other  offenses  envunerated  In  the 
Commodity  Exchange  Act. 


For  several  years,  Coimx  has  required  all  new  floor 
trading  aeabers  to  complete  a  floor  practices  trading  course 
adeinletered  by  th«  Exchange  to  assure  thet  new  Coaex  floor 
aevbars  are  fanlliar  with  their  obligations  on  the  trading  floor. 
This  course  currently  Involves  classroom  Instruction  (and 
exanination)  on  floor  trading  rules  such  as  open  outcry,  after 
hours  trading,  cross-trading,  prearranged  trades,  dual  trading 
and  priority  of  orders. 

Several  month*  ago,  Comax  began  to  explore  the 
possibility  of  incorporating  ethics  instruction  Into  our  ongoing 
training  program  or,  alternately,  joining  with  several  other  Hew 


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York  «icebang*B  In  >pon>orlng  a  joint  prograa.  M*  ar«  also 
considarlng  ajqwiidlng  tha  progra»  to  Involva  all  naw  aitehanga 
•nrollaaa  and  raquiring  all  currant  Baabara  to  c^iplat«  tha 
atbioa  caivQnant  of  tha  coum.  Willa  w«  do  net  ballav*  that 
fadoral  lagialatlon  ia  raquirad  to  aaaura  that  this  typo  of 
training  la  provldod  to  axohango  kaabara,  commx   doaa  not  objaot 
to  tha  propoaod  provialon  of  tho  bill  which  would  call  for  tha 
loouanco  by  tha  CPTC  of  ragulatlona  raquiring  raglatranta  to 
partlclpata  In  auch  training  prograaa. 

COWUBSIOII    PBOPOSAM 

Ha  do  not  objoct  to  tho  CoBaiaalon'a  laglalatlva 
propOBBla  on  (1)  nationwide  aarvica  of  procoaa;  <3)  intarnatlonal 
oooporativa  ontorcaBont  attorts;  (3)  rajMvlng  tha  roqulrovont 
that  tha  CPTC  conaldor  nat  worth  and  ability  to  contlnua  In 
bualnaaa  In  dataralnlng  tha  aaount  of  a  civil  Bonatary  panaltyt 
and  (4)  providing  for  an  autoaatlc  auapanalon  of  raglatratlon  and 
a  trading  prohibition  upon  fallur*  to  pay  a  civil  Monotary 

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■■tloM  Hal««d  bv  Crtuilii   Provl«loM   of  H.H.    2868 

Our  analysis  of  tha  languaga  of  tha  Encrliah/Colaaan  bill  ralaaa 
tha  following  quaationa.   Givan  tha  lialtad  aaount  of  tima  va 
bava  bad  to  analysa  tlia  bill,  this  listing  is  not  Intandad  to 
covar  all  potantial  tachnlcal  quaationa. 

Mav  Saction  4j  (1)  (A)— section  101  of  tha  bill— If  thara  ara 
to  ba  critaria  for  modifyinct  the  voluma  thrashold,  shouldn't 
thara  be  criteria  for  establishing  the  threshold  1  e   the 
7,000  contract  provision?   Can  the  Conialsaion  ev«r  determine 
that  the  banning  of  dual  trading  created  "undesirable  price 
volatility"  or  "unacceptable  widening  at   bid-ask  spreads"? 
What  are  "undesirable  price  volatility"  and  "unacceptable 
widaning  of  bid-ask  spread"?  What  does  "otherwise  threatana 
tha  public  interest"  nean?  Clarification  of  these  tarwa  ia 
naadad  if  this  provision  ia  to  have  any  meaning  without  auob 
clarification,  it  ia  ii^osaibla  to  analyze  the  provision. 

N«w  Saction  4j  (1)  (B)  (vii)— Saction  101  of  tha  bill— Hbo  is 
tha  customer  who  aust  axacuta  ths  wrlttan  valvar  of  tha'  dual 
trading  ban — is  it  tha  FCH,  tha  ultiaata  custonar,  tha  pool 
operator,  or  aach  pool  participant?  Is  a  valvar  naadad  from 
aach  and  avary  cuatomar? 

Haw  Saction  *j  (I)  (D)— Saction  101  of  tha  bill— Tha  critaria 
for  tha  axa^ttion  nay  ba  impossibla  to  satisfy,  depending  on 
hov  tha  CFTC  reads  "attributabla  to  dual  trading."  What  does 
"fully  varifiable"  aaan?  Ara  thaaa  criteria  consistent  with 
the  criteria  contained  in  naw  Saction  4g  (2)  B)  iv}  {a)  that 
look  to  the  ability  to  "rapidly  reconstruct  an  accurate, 
verifiable  racord  of '  tha  transactions  executad..." 

Hhat  is  tha  rsason  for  delaying  tha  affectiveneas  of  such  an 
exception  fron  tha  dual  trading  ban  until  the  expiration  of  90 
daya  after  tha  data  of  transnittal  of  a  report  to  tha 
congrassional  agriculture  cononitteee  regarding  the  exemption? 
Such  a  long  period  could  destroy  the  utility  of  the  provision. 

Hew  Section  4g  (2]  (B)  {i}— Saction  201  of  the  bill— It  appears 
that  tha  tern  "physical"  in  thia  saction  la  intandad  to  ba  "an 
exchange  foe  physicals." 

Naw  Saction  4q — Saction  202  of  the  bill — Is  there  any  raaaon 
not  to  exaapt  a  custoMar  who  already  has  a  co»modities  account 
with  another  fira? 

Naw  Saction  8c  (6)  (A) — Section  304  of  the  bill — What  ia  a 
"schedule  of  Major  violations"?  Hhat  ia  the  logic  underlying 
the  requirsBsnt  of  public  access  to  an  exchange's  schedule  of 
■ajor  violations? 


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COMEX  Policy  Staf—nt  en  Dual  Tradlno  and  Audit  Trails 

Comiodlty  Exchange,  Inc.  (COKEX)  b«ll«v«  thut  th»  Irontrunning  ol 
customer  ordtra,  vh*th«r  p«rp«tr«t«d  through  dual  trading  or  other 
aaana,  and  th«  davalopnant  and  us«  oC  acCurat«  audit  trail  data  an 
«ach  significant  isauea  daaarving  of  ragulatory  attantion.  TIm 
n«xuB  batwaen  tha  two  iaauaa  ia  tha  ability  of  an  axchange'B  audit 
trail  to  datact  trada  practice  abusaa,  such  aa  frontrunning,  and tb 
willlngnafls  of  axchangaa  to  eanctlon  ttioss  ambars  who  hav«  braadM 
thalT  fiduciary  duty  to  tha  public. 

Tha  r«quir«B«nts  of  audit  trail  coaplianc*  sbeuld  rast  aquaraly  en 
tha  shouldars  of  thosa  dlractly  cesponBlbla  for  tha  accuracy  of 
trada  tla*  data — tha  traders  thenaelvea.      Thareaftar,    tha 
rcBponalbility  to  uaa  this  data  and  to  prosecuta  wrongdoers  becoMt 
tha  obligation  of  the  exchanges.     Unfortunately  the  provisions  of 
H.R.    2869  affecting  dual    trading  and  audit  trail   systeniB,    as  wall  H 
other  proposals  which   would   linlt  the   continuation   of   dual   trading  it 
an  exchange  to  tha  denonstration  by  that  exchange    (rather  than  wdi 
of  its  meabara)    of  its  attainxant  of  specified  audit  trail  accuraq 
lavala,    fall  to  follow  this  couraa.      Instead  th«B«  prqpoaals 
panaliia  Market  users  aa  well  as  all  traders,  svsn  if  a  trader  fuur 
coaplias  with  an  audit  trail  standard. 

Dual   trading  BaXes  Important  contributions  to  tha  Barketplaca 
including  increased  liquidity,   flexibility,    and  better  execution  of 
cuatoner  orders.      Proposed  restrictions  on  dual  trading  are  likely 
to  have  negative  consequences  for  cur  aarkata  and  tha  service  Ve 
render  to  tha  public  without  neasurable   iBprovananta  to  aarkat 
integrity.      Therefore,    dual    trading,    absent  findings  of  illagal 
activities  by  a  trader,    should  be  left  intact. 

Ha  do  balleva  that  an  individual's  dual  trading  privllegas  should  bt 
subject  to  revocation  if  that  trader  has  violated  rules  intended  to 
protect  the  sarketplace.  For  that  reason  COMEX  supports  a  statutoiT 
provision  that  would  require  tha  CFTC  to  vandate  that  aach  doasstic 
futurss  exchange  establish  a  schedule  of  sanctions  for  any  of  its 
Hsabars  who  violate  the  one-ninute  audit,  trail  trading  tiaa 
recordation  requirement,  which  auat  include  the  suspansien  of  an  ! 
•xchangs  MSHbar's  dual  trading  prlvilagas. 

COMEX  envisions  this  systaa  working  as  follows.     A  ainlaua 
acceptable  level  of  compliance  with  the  one-minute  standard  tor  eacb 
member  of  a  domestic  exchange  would  be  established  by  tha  CFTC. 
Thereafter,    each  exchange  would  be  required  to  subait  to  tha 
coBBiiaaion  a  schedule  of  graduated  sanctions  which  it  Intends  to 
invoke  against  traders  who  fall  to  comply  with  the  established 
standard.      Ho  sanction  schedule  would  be  approved  by  the  comelsaion 
if  it  did  not  provide  for  the  withdrawal  of  dual  trading  privileges 
for  any  Individual  who  repeatedly  fails  to  meet  the  standard,      me 
CFTC  would  then  be  expected  to  concentrate  Ita  oversight  of  the 
exchange's  audit  trail  programs  and  would  be  empowered  to  eanctlon 
exchangee  for  their.to  effectively  enforce  these  provisions. 


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Good  «(t*moon  Mr.  Chainuin  and  ■■Bbara  ol  the 
subcofflnittee   I  an  Robert  Isaacson,  an  Indapandant  ooMBOdlty 
Trading  Advisor  fron  San  Franciaco,  California.   I  *m   hara  today 
»m   vice  President  of  tha  National  Association  of  futuraa  Trading 
Advisora,  known  as  NAFTA.   NAFTA  ia  a  national  trade  association 
of  opproxinately  150  companiea  and  Individuals  who  WAhage  alHoat 
$6  billion  in  investnents  for  thoir  -clients   Our  membera  ara 
comBodity  trading  advisors  and  conmodlty  pool  oparatora.   Thay 
oparata  or  advlaa  a  substantial  number  ot  the  ooBModity  pools  and 
■anagad  accounta  currently  in  ■xiatanc*. 

and  coHBOdlty  pools  provlds  an 

:ernative  to  direct  BpecuLative  trading  by 

..  iccordingly,  HAFTA's  neinberB  are 

substantial  users  of  the  exchanges  on  behalf  of  their  customers, 
Aa  you  can  Bba,   Kr.  Chaiman,  invsEtor  confidence  in  the  U.S. 
XUtures  markets  ia  aaaantial  to  tha  contlnuad  vitality  and  growth 
o£  euE  Industry. 

NAFTA  walcoMas  this  opportunity  to  share  with  tha  Coaaittaa 
tha  experience  of  its  »a«bars  under  the  currant  ragulatory 
framework  and  to  provide  views  Oft   several  Of  the  iasuaa  ralaad  in 
H.R.  2869.   Our  coHsanta  address  three  areas:  1)  i^nunant 
reauthorization  of  tha  CFTC;  2}  specific  issues  of  concam  to 
futures  investment  xanagers;  and  3)  Hora  ganaral  points  raised  in 
tha  legislation. 

First,  Mr.  Chairman,  1IK?TA  anthuaiastically  supports  tha 
proposal  for  permanent  authorization  of  tha  CFTC.   In  previous 
testimony  before  this  Committee  HAPT*  has  supported  measures 
to  extend  the  reauthorization  period  for  the  CFTC.   He  connend  you 
for  your  suggestion  to  place  the  CFTC  ort  the  same  permanent 
footing  as  other  federal  agencies  with  slsilar  responsibilities  in 
regulating  financial  marXetB.   The  history  of  the  CFTC  since  its 
creation  in  1974  indicates  a  steady  growth  in  staff  expertise  and 
sophistication.   The  growth  in  the  volume  or  trading  on  U.S. 
exchanges  during  this  period  indicates  increasing  confidence  in 
these  marXets,  in  part  because  of  the  regulatory  framework  which 
distinguishes  our  aarkats  from  many  foreign  competitors. 

Ha  baliava  the  periodic  reauthorization  process  drains 
substantial  CFTC  staff  resources  and  thereby  detracts  froB  tha 
ogancy'a  ability  to  perfors  its  regulatory  functions.   Tha 
banatits  of  tha  the  reauthorization  process  could,  in  our  opinion, 
be  achiavad  sore  efficiently  through  periodic  oversight  hearings. 
In  addition,  of  course,  the  ability  of  Congress  to  conduct 
invBstigations  and  hearings  on  specific  topics  of  public 
iiiportanca,  such  as  the  recent  investigation  of  futures  trade 
practioas,  would  not  b«  iapairad. 

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Our  sAcend  *r«a  involva*  Um  unlqu*  nlch*  in  tiM  futuras 
Industry  occupied  by  NAFTA  nembere.   NAFTA  aembcra  organize  and 
operate  coanodlty  poola,  aniS  manage  both  pool  and  individuai 
accounts.   Co»»odlty  pools  resemble  irvestnent  conpanlBK,  whila 
the  services  rendered  by  connodity  trading  advisors  substantially 
resemble  those  at   investment,  advisors  in  the  seuirities  industry. 
To  the  extant  practicable,  similar  regulatory  fraaeworks  should 
apply  to  both  the  futures,  and  securities  industries,  so  that 
neither  set  of  investswit  Managers  receives  a  comp«tltive 
advantage  as  a  result  ot  dlaparitlss  in  the  manner  In  which  th«y 
•re  ragulatad. 

This  isme  is  particularly  acuta  for  tUPTA's  aaabara  In  tha 
araa  of  publicly  offered  comjnodlty  pools-   These  pools  trada  in 
futures  contracts  and  are  subject  to  CFTC  jurisdiction.   Thay  ara 
typically  ottarad  in  the  fom  of  limited  partnerships,  however. 
Tharefora,  the  SEC  and  state  securities  agencies  also  regulata 
pools,  since  the  limited  partnership  interest  constitutes  a 
security.   Consequently,  a  publicly  offered  commodity  pool  BUSt 
satisfy  tha  regulations  of  the  CPTC,  SBC  and  of  tha  statea  in 
which  the  particular  offering  is  to  ba  aada. 

Ona  highly  unfortunate  result  of  multiple  ragulation  has 
been  a  staady  increase  In  the  size  of  prospectuses  for  publicly 
offered  funds  and  subsequent  corresponding  Increases  in  tha  coats 
of  organizing  such  funds   HAFTA  s  members  believe  that  the  length 
and  coaplexlty  of  disclosure  is  now  so  great  that,  in  some  cases. 
Investors  are  literally  overwhelmed  ulth  information.   This 
completely  defeats  the  very  purposa  of  disclosure.  For  these 
reasons,  HAFTA  supports  and  coBmends  the  recent  increase  in 
comaunlcation  between  the  financial  market  regulators  as 
evidenced  toy  recant  companion  releases  on  the  subject  of 
disclosures  ralatad  to  publicly  offered  commodity  pools. 

HAFTA  urgas  both  tha  CFTC  and  SEC,  for  example,  to  explore 

tha  possibility  of  a  two  part  prospectus  requirement  for  publicly 
offered  conaodlty  pools  in  the  mannec  currently  permitted  by  the 
SBC  for  investment  companies.   NAFTA  believes  a  simplified 
prospectus  could  nalce  dlficiosures  to  prospective  commodity  pool 
investors  more  meaningful,  while  a  more  detailed  supporting 
prospectus  (comparable  to  what  is  now  required  to  be  provided  to 
all  investors)  could  be  made  available  on  request  to  those 
investors  trtio  desire  additional  information   NAFTA  suggests  tha 
Comlttae  urge  the  CFTC  to  examine  this  area  with  a  view  to 
proi^oslng  streamlined  and  siaplltiad  dlsclosuras  for  publicly 
offerad  OMmodity  poola.  This  is  an  araa  in  which  HAFTA  beliavas 
thara  should  ba  greater  parity  batwaan  coapating  poolad  invastaant 


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Anothsr  araa  of  particular  concam  to  NAPTA'a  »«a)MTB  Is 
that  of  speculative  position  limits  and  aggregation  policlea. 
These  policies  were  initially  promulgated  prior  to  the  developwant 
of  A  oanaqed  money  sector  In  the  futures  industry.   And  they  have 
not  been  reconsidered  Cor  their  Impact  in  Inhibiting  the 
development  of  the  managed  noney  products,   HAFTA  Is  aware  several 
large  and  extreaely  auooessful  conmodity  trading  advisors  hove 
increasingly  turned  to  allocating  funds  to  foreign  markets  in 
order  to  avoid  restrictions  Imposed  by  speculative  position  limlta 
which  apply  to  U.S.  markets  but  not  to  foreign  markets.   As 
capital  flees  U.S.  markets  to  lass  regulated  foreign  markets  the 
consequences  for  the  public  and  for  the  futures  Induatry  itself 
become  increasingly  nagatiwo.   potential  investors  could  be  hac»ed 
because  foreign  markets  typically  have  substantially  fewer 
customer  safeguards.   While  no  one  believes  U.S.  oorkets  should 
compete  with  foreign  markets  by  eliminating  what  are  widely 
recognized  to  be  valuable  customer  protection  measures,  NAFTA 
believes  speculative  position  limits  and  aggregation  policies 
should  be  reviewed  thoroughly  for  their  continued  efficacy.   HAPT* 
requests  Congress  to  encourage  the  CFTC  to  continue  the  work  it 
began  in  this  area  when  It  recently  Moditied  torn*   of  Its  rules 
pertaining  to  aggregation. 

Turning  to  specific  provisions  ol  H.R.  2869,  MAFTA  does  not 
believe  a  prohibition  oF  dual  trading  is  si^ropriate  or  necessary 
at  thia  time.   While  KAFTA  apprecietea  that  unspecified  alleged 
abuses  have  prompted  the  proposals  to  prohibit  dual  trading,  we 
believa  substantial  and  valid  reasons  call  for  batter  remedial 
■teps.  First,  the  prapasal  would  have  several  negative 
consequences  I 

(1)  Many  of  the  Bost  skillful  brokers  say  choose  to  trade 
entirely  for  themselves  and  no  longer  for  customers 
Because  many  aoney  managers  execute  large  orders  for  their 
clients  quality  execution  of  trades  Is  particularly 
important   Hany  NAFTA  meubers  devote  substantial  attention 
to  reviewing  the  quality  of  order  fills  and  selecting  the 
brokers  with  whom  they  place  orders  It   a  ban  on  dual 
trading  were  to  convert  brokers  into  traders,  the  ability 
of  our  pembers  to  trade  profitably  for  their  customers 
would  be  hampered. 

(2)  Such  a  ban  would  reduce  the  liquidity  of  the  markets. 
In  soae  cases,  this  would  sake  it  more  difficult  to  enter  and  to 
exit  positions  for  ouatosers;  and 

(3)  It  for  any  reason  voluae  ware  to  dacraaBe 
significantly,  a  dual  trading  ban  would  reaalt  in  increases 
in  brokerage  comisslon  rates. 


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NAFTA  l>all«v«*  dukl  trading  aheuld  b«  allowMl  to  oontlnu*, 
■ubj*ct  to  dlBcloBurs  to  oufltoaars  that  •  brolc«r  intend*  to  trad* 
fer  hla  awa  account  Exlatlng  CFTC  rsqulatlons  requlrs  just  such 
disclosure  to  prospective  custoners  of  conaodlty  trading  advisors 
■nd  commodity  pool  operators.  This  dlBclosure  would  allow  a 
cuatOBcr  to  chooaa  for  himself  without  tha  urkat  having  to  auffar 
the  coata  I  hava  just  descrlbsd 

Furtharaorc .  wa  believe  incraaaad  aorveillanoe  by  tba 
aitchangaa  and  by  the  CFTC,  along  «ith  technological  deveiopnents 
anhancing  tha  quality  of  audit  trails,  should  moke  all  trade 
practice  abuses  increasingly  rare.   KAFTA  bslievea  a  prohibition 
of  dual  trading  should  not  be  inpleaanted  -until  intemediate 
alternative  step*  have  been  tested.   The  effects  Of  «  dual  trading 
ban  on  market  liquidity  naada  to  be  evaluated. 

H.S.  2869  would  require  aitchang*  and  other  aalf -regulatory 

organization  governing  boards  to  include  at  leaat  10  percent 
"non-m.ember"  director*.   NAPTA  supports  the  concept  of  outside 
directors  on  governing  boards  as  a  general  principle.   In  fact, 
tha  MAPTA  board  of  directors  includes  an  outside  director, even 
though  wa  are  a  private  trade  association   However  KXtTA 
believes  no  particular  oerit  exists  in  a  fixed  20  percent 
requirement.   NAFTA  believes  the  experience  and  knowledge  of 
individual  governing  board  meabers,  whether  member  or  non-meeber, 
are  sore  critical  to  sound  decision-making  and  representation  of 
public  interests  than  mandated  percentages. 

H.R.  2869  would  impose  a  three-day  'cooling  off  period 
between  the  time  an  account  is  opened  for  a  tir*t-tlM*  *p*culatlv* 
cuatoaer  trtto  was  solicited  by  telephone  and  the  day  on  trttich  thi* 
cuatoaer  aay  make  his  first  trade.   First,  I   would  point  out  that 
telemarketing  is  not  used  to  any  significant  degree  by  NAFTA 
members.   Nevertheless,  in  the  interests  of  enhanced  investor 
confidence  in  our  markets,  we  support  the  concept  of  audi  a 
coollng-off  period   NAFTA  menbers  are  concerned,  however,  that  it 
would  be  extremely  difficult  to  implement  and  police  the  proposal 
contained  in  H.R.  JSfid.   For  example,  it  is  not  clear  to  what 
extent  a  brokerage  firm  could  rely  upon  oral  assurances  from  tha 
cuatoaer  that  he  vas  not  a  first-time  customsr.   What  types  of 
evidence  would  suffice  to  perait  a  broker  to  satisfy  this  gueatlon? 

Finally,  NAFTA  has  long  supported  the  development  of 
ethical  standards  throughout  the  futures  industry.   In  fact,  MAFTA 
views  as  one  of  its  purposes  the  enhanceasnt  of  ethical  standards 
for  trading  advisors  and  pool  operators  and  Intends  to  Include 
■essiona  in  this  area  In  Its  future  annual  aeatings. 

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array  of  ragulatlon.   COBBOdity  trading  advisors,  eoHiodity  pool 
oparators,  and  thalr  asaoclatad  parsons  ara  raqulred  to  raqlater 
with  the  HFA.   Each  of  these  associated  persons  aust  first 
BuccesaCully  pass  the  National  Coamodlty  Futures  Examination.   The 
HFA  conducta  regular  audits  of  all  NAFTA  aenhers.   Exhaustive 
disclosure,  r«cordke«plng  and  reporting  regulations  govern 
coBBodlty  trading  advisors  and  pool  operators,  and  pool  operators 
■ust  provide  annual  audited  financial  stataBents  to  their 
custoaers,  the  NFA  and  the  cftc. 

These  regulations  have  been  In  place  tor  over  a  decade,  and 
continue  to  be  suppleaented  froa  tlae  to  tine  by  NFA  coapllance 
rules  covering  areas  such  as  promotional  materials.   NFA  staff 
also  conduct  periodic  compliance  audits.   Comprehensive  securities 
regulations  also  govern  pool  operators  and  trading  advisors. 

NAFTA  Bsmbera  are  thus  subject  to  a  very  broad  range  of 
compliance  responsibilities.   This  regulatory  framework  Is 
considerably  broader  in  scope  than  that  applicable  to  almost  any 
other  CFTC  registrants. 

All  of  this  leads  HAFTA  members  to  believe  Bore  vigorous 
enforcement  of  existing  futures  Industry  regulations  may  be  mora 
effective  In  preventing  abuses  than  another  regulatory  layer  of 
■ethics'  training.  This  is  in  large  part  due  to  NAPTA's  concern 
that  serious  problems  must  be  very  carefully  considered  in 
developing  any  regulations  to  Impletient  such  a  requirement.   Would 
this  requirement  create  a  financial  hardahlp  on  individuals  and 
smaller  firms,  for  example,  by  imposing  travel  to  central 
locations  tor  initial  or  refresher  training  sessions?   For  these 
kinds  of  reasons,  NAFTA  urges  extreme  care  in  crafting  any 
regulations'  and  we  commit  our  full  assistance  to  the  CPTC  for 
that  purpose.   In  fact,  NAFTA  would  undertake  to  provide  any  such 
required  training  tor  its  members  and  would  encourage  Congress  to 
suggest  such  an  approach  for  maBbars  of  NAFTA  and  other  similar 
trade  associations. 

Mr.  Chairman,  we  appreciate  the  opportunity  to  present  the 
views  of  our  Association.  I  will  be  happy  to  answer  any  questions 
you  may  have. 


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COMMODITY  FUTURES  IMPROVEMENTS  ACT  OF 

1989 


THURSDAY,  JULY  20,  1989 

House  op  Repeesbntatives, 
subcohmittee  on  consebvatign, 
Credit,  and  Rural  Devrlopmbnt, 

committek  of  agriculture, 

Washington,  DC. 
The  subcommittee  met,  pursuant  to  notice,  at  10:10  a.m.  in  room 
1300,  Longworth  House  Office  Building,  Hon.  Glenn  English  (chair- 
man of  the  subcommittee)  presiding. 

Present:  Representatives  Tallon,  Penny,  Nagle,  Harris,  Stagers, 
Sarpalius,  Long,  Coleman,  Morrison,  Gunderson,  Combest,  Grandy, 
and  Holloway. 

Also  present:  Representative  E  (Kika)  de  la  Garza,  chairmtm  of 
the  committee,  and  Representatives  Huckaby,  Glickman,  and 
Jontz,  members  of  the  committee. 

Staff  present:  Fred  J.  Clark,  associate  counsel;  Willieun  E.  O'Con- 
ner,  Jr.,  assistant  minority  staff  director;  John  E.  Hogan,  minority 
counsel;  Alice  Devine,  minority  associate  counsel;  Glenda  L. 
Temple,  clerk;  Bill  Cherry,  Jsunes  E.  McDonald,  James  A.  Davis, 
Thomas  H.  Lederer,  and  David  EHsersole. 

OPENING  STATEMENT  OF  HON.  GLENN  ENGLISH,  A  REPRESENTA- 
TIVE IN  CONGRESS  FROM  THE  STATE  OF  OKLAHOMA 

Mr.  English.  The  committee  will  come  to  order. 

This  is  the  second  day  of  hearings  of  the  Commodity  Futures  Im- 
provements Act  of  1989.  Tuesday's  witness  list  included  a  wide 
spectrum  of  the  futures  industry  but  today's  list  is  even  wider.  It 
includes  a  ffumer,  a  floor  broker,  and  representatives  of  most  other 
parts  of  the  industry.  We  will  change  the  order  of  today's  wit- 
nesses. Late  yesterday,  officials  from  the  Chicago  Board  of  Trade 
notified  us  that  Mr.  Mahlmann  could  answer  questions  about  the 
emei^ency  order  involving  July  soybeans  if  he  could  appear  after 
trading  in  the  contract  ends  in  Chicago.  Trading  ends  at  noon  Chi- 
C£igo  time  or  1  p.m.  here.  I  know  that  many  members  of  the  sub- 
committee  want  to  get  complete  answers  instead  of  the  answers 
they  got  on  Tuesday.  So  I  changed  the  schedule  of  witnesses.  Mr. 
MfOilmann  will  appear  this  afternoon. 


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To  help  members  of  the  subcommittee,  we  obtained  the  cash  soy- 
bean  prices  from  the  Agricultural  Marketing  Service  at  USDA  and 
arranged  them  in  a  table  that  includes  the  settlement  price  at  the 
Chicago  Board  of  Trade.  This  is  included  in  the  material  in  front  of 
the  members.  I  look  forward  to  hearing  today's 

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Mr.  Enoush.  Now,  Mr  Coleman,  for  any  opening  remarkB. 

Mr.  CouMAN.  I  have  no  statement 

Mr.  Enoush.  Mr.  Tallon. 

Mr.  Tallon.  I  have  nothing,  Mr.  Chairman. 

Mr.  Enoush.  Mr.  Combest. 

Mr.  CouBKBF.  Nothing,  Mr.  Chairman. 

Mr.  English.  Out  flret  witness  today  is  Mr.  Robert  D.  Joeeerand. 
who  is  president  of  the  National  Cattlemen's  Association. 

Mr.  Josserand,  if  you  will  come  to  the  witness  table  we  will  be 
happy  to  receive  your  testimony.  Let  me  also  say  that,  Mr.  Josser- 
and, you  and  all  of  our  other  witnesses  today,  if  you  would  care  to 
summarize  your  written  testimony,  please  feel  tree  to  do  so,  and 
your  complete  written  testimony  will  be  made  a  part  of  the  record. 

STATEMENT  OF  ROBERT  D.  JOSSERAND,  PRESmENT,  NAUONAL 

CATTLEMEN'S  ASSOCIATION,  ACCOMPANIED  BY  ALAN  SOBBA, 

DIRECTOR,  TAX  AND  CREDIT 

Mr.  JossBSAND.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman. 

As  you  have  said,  I  am  Bob  Josserand  from  Herford,  TX.  I  am  a 
cattle  feeder;  however,  I  am  here  today  representing  the  Naticmal 
Cattlemen's  Association.  I  want  you,  Mr.  Chairman,  and  tibe  sub- 
committee to  know  how  much  we  appreciate  the  opportunity  to  ex- 
press our  views  on  this  very  critical  issue  as  far  as  the  cattle  indus- 
try is  concerned. 

I  want  to  say  right  up  front  that  our  primary  working  relation- 
ship  is  with  the  CME.  Several  years  ago,  we  started  a  cooperative 
venture  in  which  our  cattlemen  were  extremely  concerned  about 
some  of  the  attitudes  toward  the  CME  and  some  of  the  things  that 
were  happening,  and  we  started  a  joint  project  with  them  that  has 
been  very  successful,  I  think.  We  continue  to  work  with  them.  We 
think  we  have  made  some  signiiicant  improvements.  1  would  like 
also  to  thank  the  committee  for  moving  in  such  a  timely  manner 
on  House  bUl  2869. 

I  Eun  going  to  be  very  brief,  Mr.  Chairman,  and  I  will  be  very 
happy  to  answer  any  questions  the  committee  might  have  after- 
wards. I  am  going  to  attempt  to  summarize.  I  am  going  to  follow 
the  bill's  titles.  'Title  1,  limitation  on  certain  trading  practices — 
dual  trading.  Very  simply,  the  National  Cattlemen's  Association 
supports  the  elimination  of  dual  trading.  We  do  not  think  under 
the  present  monitoring  system  available  on  the  floor  that  dual 
trading  is  supportable  by  the  exchange  and  simply  because  the  pit 
brokers'  cards  are  submitted  every  30  minutes  and  there  is  abso- 
lutely no  way  to  successfully  monitor  and  audit  trading. 

We  would  also  recommend,  Mr.  Chairman,  that  the  elimination 
of  dual  trading  simply  be  across  the  boEu*d  on  all  commodities.  I 
don't  think  it's  feasible  to  eliminate  dual  trading  in  some  pits  and 
not  all.  We  would  also  like  to  surest  that  the  elimination  of  dual 
trading  would  probably  do  more  to  restore  confidence  by  the  ct^tle 
industry  in  the  futures  meu'ket. 

We  would  also  like  to  support  membership  disclosure  and  elimi- 
nation of  dual  trading  for  individual  traders  in  banning  members 
of  brokers'  associations  from  trading  for  their  personal  accounts  in 
all  exchange  markets  against  orders  executed  by  members  of  the 


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same  broker  eissociation,  r^Eirdless  of  profit-ehariiig  firrangements. 
Allowing  dual  trading  to  continue  within  broker  groups  but  prohib- 
iting it  by  individual  traders  is  not  fair  and  would  put  several 
people  at  competitive  disadvantage. 

Title  n,  the  enhancement  of  regulatory  and  enforcement  activi- 
ty— audit  trails.  One  of  the  great  concerns,  Mr.  Chairman,  of  our 
industry  is  the  audit  trail.  And  we  do  not  think  today,  given  the 
fEict  that  pit  broker  cards  are  bracketed  into  30-minute  s^ments 
that  the  exchai^e  can  narrow  the  audit  trail  to  make  it  meaning- 
ful. We  would  like  to  recommend  that  increased  audit  procedures 
to  cross-match  information  on  a  pit  broker's  card  with  the  broker- 
age house,  outside  orders,  be  mandatory. 

NCA  also  recommends  increased  research  into  the  use  of  hand- 
held electronic  recording  devices  or  other  emerging  technologv  to 
record  pit  brokers'  transactions  in  lieu  of  the  traditional  hfind-held 
pit  broker  cards.  We  also  support  the  concept  of  separate  time 
brackets  for  market  openings  and  closings.  We  feel  that  there  is  too 
wide  a  trading  range  at  the  present  time  and  we  would  like  to  see 
a  definite  time  bracket. 

Closer  and  more  frequent  monitoring  of  positions  held  by  rois- 
tered commercial  traders  is  recommended  to  assure  that  these  posi- 
tions are  in  fact  bona  fide  hedged  positions.  Auditing  procedures 
may  be  requii-ed  to  establish  that  the  commercial  trsider  in  fact  has 
product  or  orders  in  the  physical  market  that  are  being  offset  by 
he^ed  positions  in  the  futures  market. 

The  National  Cattlemen's  Association  has  been  working  quite 
closely  with  CFTC  Chairman  Wendy  Gramm;  has  urged  their  com- 
plete and  full  cooperation  with  the  ongoing  FBI  investigation.  We 
continue  to  participate  and  cooperate  wherever  possible  so  that  the 
public  confidence  in  the  integrity  of  the  futures  market  is  main- 
tained. 

The  National  Cattlemen's  Association  supports  the  concept  of 
self-regulation  by  the  futures  industry  with  continued  strong  over- 
sight by  CFTC.  We  feel  that  if  the  exchanges  themselves  will 
adhere  to  the  pentilties  as  proposed  by  the  exchanges  and  will  con- 
tinue to  monitor  their  own  activities,  with  oversight  by  CFTC,  that 
it  would  be  much  stronger  thfin  additional  people,  additional  regu* 
lators  from  CFTC  on  the  floor  or  in  the  pits.  Strengthening  self-dis- 
cipline committees  will  help  restore  integrity  to  the  market.  We 
would  also  urge  that  greater  representation  by  nonfloor  member- 
ship is  a  necessary  st«p.  One  item  that  we  would  like  to  see  han- 
dled in  your  bill,  if  possible,  is  the  fact  that  we  do  require  r^;istra- 
tion  of  floor  traders,  or  require  some  type  of  activity  which  will 
give  cattlemen  and  others  increased  confidence  in  floor  brokers. 

We  also  think  that  tied  with  the  registration  of  floor  traders 
should  be  enhancement  of  registration  requirements.  We  are  not 
sure  that  we  totally  have  the  lund  of  background  checks  and  educa- 
tion required  for  brokers.  The  concept  of  self-r^ulation  with  strong 
CFTC  oversight  is  supported  by  NCA.  Without  strict  enforcement 
of  penalties,  regulations  lack  the  teeth  to  insure  compliance  with 
self-imposed  rules. 

The  integrity  of  self-r^ulation  is  directly  tied  to  ethical  stand- 
ards. We  would  urge  the  committee  to  make  sure  that  extensive 
ethical  training  would  be  established  both  for  the  exchanges  and 


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the  floor  brokers.  We  would  like  to  share  just  a  few  other  com- 
ments with  you,  Mr.  Chairman. 

We  would  recommend  and  support  permanent  authorization  of 
CFTC.  We  feel  that  this  is  long  overdue.  It  would  aUow  the  Com- 
mission to  redirect  some  of  the  funds  and  stafT  that  presently  is  ex- 
pended to  reiMur  for  reauthorization  and  would  allow  that  staff  and 
ninds  to  be  mriected  towards  its  primary  function. 

We  think  that  adequate  numbers  of  highly  trained,  qualified,  ex- 
perienced personnel  are  central  to  the  accomplishment  of  any  mis- 
sion. NCA  supports  CFTCs  request  for  increased  personnel  and 
fimding,  whidi  have  been  outstripped  by  growth  in  the  futures  in- 
dustry during  the  recent  years.  One  specific  issue,  periodic  verifica- 
tion of  positions  held  by  commercial  traders  as  bona  f!de  hedges  is 
the  t^pe  of  information  that  increased  surveillance  could  create 
and  snould  create. 

The  use  of  electronic  systems  in  place  of  open  outcry  offers  un- 
limited advantages  in  recordkeeping,  market  surveillance,  ease  of 
use,  and  opens  opportunities  for  additional  refinements.  NCA 
strongly  encourages  the  exchange  to  implement  electronic  trading 
systems  during  normal  trading  hours  as  an  alternative  to  open 
outcry. 

We  think  that,  while  this  is  a  long  process  and  we  appreciate 
your  efforts,  we  think  that  what  you  are  doing  will  restore  market 
mtegrity  in  light  of  the  recent  investigation  ^  establishing  CFTC 
as  the  futures  regulatory  agency,  you  will  serve  very  much  the 
people  in  the  country. 

Mr.  Chairman,  National  Cattlemen  is  certainly  willing  to  asmst 
you  in  any  way  that  we  can  in  this  endeavor  and  I  would  be  happy 
to  answer  any  questions  should  there  be  some. 

Thank  you. 

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sion of  the  hearing.] 

Mr.  English.  Thank  you  very  much,  Mr.  Josserand.  I  appreciate 
that. 

Let  me  ask  you  with  regeird  to  the  state  of  confidence  in  the  fu- 
tures markets  as  far  as  the  cattlemen  of  this  country  are  ocm- 
cemed,  members  of  your  association.  Do  they  have  a  high  level  of 
confidence  in  the  int^rity  of  the  market  as  it  stands  today? 

Mr.  Josserand.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  would  have  to  say  that  certainly 
the  opinions  are  spUt.  If  you  asked  me  for  a  percentage,  I  would 
say  probably  half  of  our  members  do  have  that  confidence;  half 
have  some  concern,  particularly  those  who  do  not  use  the  futures 
as  a  price  risk  protection  mecnanism,  those  who — I  do  not  want 
this  to  sound  wrong — ^but  those  who  are  in  rural  areas  that  ^ust 
simply  do  not  have  adequate  communication  on  a  daily  basis;  I 
think  those  people  have  some  concern  about  the  int^^nty  of  the 
market. 

Mr.  Engush.  We  hetird  a  great  deal  of  concern  expressed,  of 
course,  from  the  industry  itself  shortly  after  it  was  announced  in 
Jtmuary  that  there  had  been  a  probe  by  the  Justice  Department, 
that  an  undercover  operation  had  been  under  way  for  several 
months;  and  we  seemed  to  find  a  great  deal  of  interest  within  the 
industry  in  trying  to  address  any  problems  pertaining  to  queetions 
of  the  int^rity  of  the  market,  to  be  willing  to  tighten  up.  As  time 


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has  gone  by  and  no  one  has  been  prosecuted;  that  seems  to  be  less- 
ening. Does  that  change  anything,  the  fact  that  no  one  has  been 
indicted  and  prosecuted  to  dat«?  Does  that  change  the  need,  in 
your  opinion,  for  addressing  the  question  of  int^rity? 

Mr.  JossERAND.  Absolutely  not,  Mr.  Chairman.  In  fact,  I  think  it 
intensifies  that  need  from  the  standpoint  that  in  the  countnr,  the 
general  feeling  is,  you  know,  the  investigation  was  announced,  that 
there  would  be  indictments  forthcoming  fuid,  as  you  say,  nothing 
has  occurred.  I  think  the  country  is  saying  why,  when,  and  what 
are  we  going  to  do  about  it;  euid  I  think  if  Einything  it  intensifies 
the  efforts  on  your  part. 

Mr.  English.  Mr.  Coleman. 

Mr.  CoLBMAN.  Well,  Mr.  Josserand,  your  organization  and  the 
Chicago  Mercantile  Exchange  have  entered  into  some  advisory  ca- 
pacity; there's  tui  advisory  board  and  so  forth.  Would  you  tell  us  a 
little  bit  about  the  ongoing  relationship  that  you  all  have  set  up 
and  how  do  you  think  those  are  proceeding? 

Mr.  Josserand.  Yes,  sir,  Mr.  Oaleman.  We  have  had  in  the  past  2 
years  a  very  good  working  relationship  with  the  Chicago  Mercan- 
tile Exchange  in  that  our  members  asked  3  years  ago  for  a  task 
force  to  be  appointed  out  of  the  National  Cattlemen  to  really  take 
a  look  at  the  cattle  futures  cmd  what  they  meant  to  the  industry; 
and  within  the  framework  of  that  task  force  and  in  the  framework 
of  the  recommendations  that  came  out  of  that  task  force,  we  feel 
like  we  have  been  at  least  ptuiially  responsible  for  some  significant 
changes  in  the  cattle  futures;  we  feel  like  that  we  have  had  some 
input  and  we  do  have  nonvotii^  members  serving  on  the  live  cattle 
committee  and  the  advisory  committee;  we  do  feel  like  we've  had  a 
considerable  amount  of  input  into  some  significant  changes,  impor- 
tant chfuiges  as  far  as  we  were  concerned.  We  have  not  gotten  all 
of  the  things  that  we  thoi^ht  would  make  the  cattle  futures  a 
better  tool  for  us,  items  such  as  cash  settlement,  which  we  would 
still  like  to  see. 

We  also  realize  the  difficulty  in  the  use  of  cash  settlements  be- 
cause of  our  pricing  situation  within  the  entire  industry.  We  stUl 
feel  that  that  is  a  viable  option  down  the  road,  but  we  also  realize 
that  the  industry  has  to  solve  its  own  price  discovery  system. 

Our  relationship  with  the  Merc,  I  submit  to  you,  is  very  good; 
they  have  been  very  cooperative;  we've  worked  with  them.  We  still 
have  some  chaises  we  would  like  to  see  made,  but  I  think  that's 
possible,  and  I  think  they  are  open  to  input  f^m  the  cattlemen. 

Mr.  Coleman.  Well,  I  thank  you. 

Mr.  English.  Mr.  Tallon. 

Mr.  Tallon.  Mr.  Chairmfm,  thank  you,  and  Mr.  Josserand, 
thank  you  for  your  testimony. 

In  looking  back  over  it,  of  course,  we  heard  you  testify  that  you 
support  elimination  of  dual  trading,  period.  Of  course,  Uie  l^iala- 
tion,  the  bill  that  hsis  been  introduced  provides  for  dual  trading 
under  certain  circumstances.  How  would  you  feel  if  we  included  in 
this  legislation  criminal  penedties,  if  we  provided  for  criminal  pen- 
alties within  the  l^islation  for  a  trader  that  was  trading  ahead  of 
the  customer?  Do  you  feel  like  that  should  be  included  in  the  legis- 
lation? 


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Mr.  JossBRAND.  I  think,  Mr.  Tallon,  if  you  asked  our  members, 
the  int^rity  of  the  exchanges  is  foremost  and  I  think  that  our 
membership  would  have  no  pr(d>lem  with  that  type  of  activity. 

Mr.  Tallon.  Thank  you. 

You  seem  to  indicate  the  problem  that  you  have  with  dual  trad- 
ing is  wit^  the  way  the  audit  tredl  is  reconstructed.  At  the  present 
time,  is  there  a  possibility  that  with  a  tighter  audit  trail,  a  more 
efficient  audit  trail  that  you  could  be  conndent  with  dual  trading? 
What  kind  of  changes  would  you  recommend? 

Mr.  JossKRAND.  I  think  No.  1  is  that  we  do  have  to  tighten  up 
the  audit  trail.  I  think  our  concern  is  simply  the  integrity  when  we 
have  dual  trading  and  under  present  circumstances,  I  guess  our 
best  option  is  the  totfil  elimination  of  dual  trading.  If,  in  fact,  we 
were  comfortable  and  the  country  was  comfortable  with  the  audit 
trail,  then  I  think  we  might  reconsider  that. 

Mr.  Tallon.  I  think  you  said  that  maybe  half  of  your  members 
had  a  problem  with  duEu  trading,  and  maybe  the  other  half  did  not, 
and  that  probably  the  half  that  did  not  were  people  who  didn't  use 
the  market  on  an  ongoing  basis  and  maybe  were  not  as  close  to  the 
mcu'ket  and  maybe  mdn't  communicate  or  have  the  means  of  com- 
municating with  the  markets? 

Mr.  JossERAND.  Mr.  Tallon,  what  I  think  I  said  or  hope  I  said 
was  that  with  regard  to  the  futures  market,  about  half  of  our  mem- 
bers had  real  questions  about  the  use  of  them.  I  think  as  far  as  the 
dual  trading  goes,  you  could  say  almost  100  percent  ccF  our  member- 
ship would  recommend  the  elimination  of  dual  trading  under 
present  auditing  procedures. 

Mr.  Tallon.  And  so  the  recommendation  certainly  would  extend 
to  a  ban  on  all  dual  trading,  r^ardless  of  the  smiount  of  volume  in 
contracts,  no  concern  for  liquidity;  I  mean,  we  just  ou^t  to  ban 
dual  trading  across  the  board? 

Mr.  J088ERAND.  Mr.  Tallon,  we  are  very  sympathetic  to  what  the 
ban  on  dual  trsiding  would  do  to  liquidity  in  a  particular  contract. 
We  reeilize  that  there  possibly  can  be  some  serious  repercussions. 
However,  we  think  if  we  do  not  get  the  elimination  of  dual  trEiding, 
the  repercussions  A*om  the  questioning  of  the  exchange  and  the  fu- 
tures contreict  greatly  outweigh  the  lost  liquidity. 

Mr.  Tallon.  Of  course,  we  all  understand  there  is  nothing  wrong 
per  se  with  dual  trading;  it's  trading  ahead  of  the  customer,  trad- 
ing your  own  order  before  the  customer's  order,  that's  the  real 
problem  here,  and  in  my  mind,  smother  concern  that  I  have  that 
we've  heard  really  very  little  about  is  when  a  futures  merchant 
gets  an  order,  before  it  ever  gets  to  the  floor  of  the  exchange,  we 
are  very  limited  in  how  we  monitor  what  happens  to  that  order  or 
those  orders,  or  those  bundles  of  orders. 

Has  the  Nationed  Cattlemen's  Association  looked  at  that  and  do 
you  have  concerns  about  how  those  orders  are  handled? 

Mr.  JossERAND.  I'm  sure  that  our  task  force,  working  with  the 
CMB,  did  look  at  that,  Mr.  Tallon,  but  I  eun  not  knowledgeable 
about  that. 

Mr.  Tallon.  Well,  you  understand  that  you  can  ban  dual  trading 
on  the  floor,  but  there  are  so  many  things  that  can  happen  prior  to 
that  order  ever  getting  to  the  floor;  ana  I  just  have  to  question  ^ 
maybe  we  can't  see  the  forest  for  the  trees. 


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Thank  you. 

Mr.  JossBRAND.  Thank  you,  sir. 

Mr.  English.  Mr.  Combest. 

Mr.  Combest.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman. 

Mr.  ChairmEin,  Mr.  Joeserand  is  a  constituent  of  mine  and  only 
at  the  last  moment  yestarday  did  he  find  out  he  would  be  deliver- 
ing this  testimony.  I  know  how  anxious  he  is,  as  soon  as  he  leaves 
here,  to  get  back  to  West  Texas,  £ind  from  a  personal  experience  of 
both  of  UB  loving  West  Texas,  far  be  it  from  me  to  be  the  one  that 
would  keep  him  from  it.  I  have  no  questions.  Bob,  it  was  good  to 


lee  yo! 
Mr., 


Vlr.  JossERAND.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Congressman. 

Mr.  English.  Ms.  Long. 

Mb.  Long.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman. 

It's  nice  to  have  you  here  today. 

You  have  been  talking  about  liquidity  and  dual  trading  and  I 
think  that  I  am  sensing  ^m  your — you  haven't  said  this  specifical- 
ly— that  the  dutil  trEiduig  leaaa  to  liquidity,  which  leads  to  greater 
market  volatility,  because  you  have  people  buying  commoditieB 
that  you  have  no  real  use  for  in  your  case,  cattle,  their  buying 
cattle  to  resell  and  that's  in  a  sense  playing  with  the  true  forces  of 
the  market.  Is  that  what  you  are  saying? 

Mr.  JossERAND.  Well,  I  think  our  concern  about  dual  trading  is 
one  of  fairness,  one  of  the  integrity  of  the  market.  I  guess  if  you 
looked  at  the  cattlemen  in  general,  there  are  those  who  do  have 
that  concern  about  people  trading  in  any  futures  market  without 
need  of  the  product;  but  at  this  point  in  time,  a  discussion  on  dual 
trading  I  think  is  one  of  fairness  find  is  one  of  perception  as  much 
as  anything  that  things  are  being  handled  correctly  and  right  and 
that  there  is  not  misuse  of  the  ability  to  dual  trade. 

I  think  more  than  anything  I  have  to  say  that  with  the  confi- 
dence in  the  system,  I  think  it's  perception  more  than  anything 
else. 

Ms.  Long.  Let  me  ask  you  another  question  along  those  same 
lines.  We  tend  to  assume  that  liquidity  is  In  and  of  itself  good  be- 
cause it  can  keep  a  market  active.  Are  you  suggesting  that  liquidi- 
ty has  some  negative  aspects,  that  liquidity  that  results  from 
demand  from  buyers  who  have  no  real  use  for  the  commodity  that 
that  is  not  necessarily  good  for  the  market? 

Mr.  JossERAND.  Ms.  Long,  I  Eim  not  trying  to  say  one  way  or  the 
other. 

I  think  as  far  as  the  position  of  the  National  Cattlemen,  we  cer- 
tainly would  encourage  all  of  the  liquidity  we  could  get  into  a 
market,  even  though  we  realize  that  it  can  cause  some  wild  price 
fluctuations  once  in  a  while.  I  think  if  you  analyzed  our  member- 
ship and  particularly  that  segment  which  probably  are  not  familiar 
with  the  futures,  you  would  find  that  they  would  be  quite  consist- 
ent with  the  idea  that  maybe  there  is  too  much  liquidity  once  in  a 
while. 

Ms.  Long.  Thank  you.  I'm  trying  to,  the  same  as  you,  I  think, 
assess  the  value  of  liquidity  in  the  marketplace  and  am  glad  to 
have  your  input.  Thank  you. 

Mr.  JossxRAND.  Thank  ^ou. 

Mr.  English.  Mr.  Hams. 


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Mr.  Harris.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman. 

One  of  the  complaints  or  observations  that  I've  had  expressed  to 
me  concerning  the  ban  of  dual  trading  is  that  this  would  drive  the 
markets  overseas,  euid  I  just  wondered  if  jrou  have  any  thoughts  on 
that? 

Mr.  JossEBAND.  No,  sir. 

Mr.  Harris.  Because  we  certainly  don't  want  to  send  any  more 
jobs  overseas  than  we  have  already  seen  go.  We  would  like  to  get 
some  back. 

Mr.  JossERAND.  No,  sir,  I  do  not  have  any  thoughts  on  that,  and 
I'm  sure  it  has  been  looked  at  by  our  task  force.  I  simply  cannot 
answer  that.  I  do  not  know. 

Mr.  Harris.  You  would  agree  with  me  that  that  is  a  concern? 

Mr.  JossEBAND.  I  would  agree  witii  you  that  we  don't  need  to 
transfer  a  lot  more  of  our  business  overseas;  yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Harris.  That's  all  I  have,  Mr.  Chairman.  It's  good  to  see  you 
again. 

Mr.  E^NGUBH.  Thank  you  very  much,  Mr.  Harris. 

Mr.  Josserand,  we  appreciate  your  testimony  very  much. 

Mr.  Josserand.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairmfm. 

Mr.  English.  Did  you  Imve  a  question,  Mr.  Coleman? 

Mr.  Coleman.  If  I  might  just  meike  a  comment  as  a  followup  to 
my  colleague's  question,  on  the  other  hand,  if  dual  trading  were 
prohibited  under  certain  circumstances,  the  int^rity  of  the  mai^ 
kets  in  this  country  would  be  imquestioned,  any  problems  that 
might  result  from  dual  trading  could  be  caught  in  a  proper  audit 
trful  under  our  proposal.  When  they  exist  for  higher  traded 
volume,  just  the  opposite  probably  woidd  occur,  would  it  not?  The 
people  who  wfmt  to  buy  and  sell  cattle  would  want  to  come  to  the 
United  States,  to  make  sure  that  they  knew  they  were  getting  the 
proper  price  and  that  there  was  no  one  taking  advantage  of  their 
position  and  so  forth.  So  I  would  suggest  that  the  bill  and  the 
thrust  of  the  bill  would  be  very  supportive  of  trying  to  retain  and 
enhance  our  markets  as  opposed  to  somehow  driving  your  member- 
ship, for  example,  away  ftom  our  markets. 

Mr.  Josserand.  I  thmk  you  are  right,  Mr.  Coleman.  I  cannot  per^ 
ceive  of  it  happening  Emy  other  way. 

Mr.  Coleman.  Thank  you. 

Mr.  English.  Thank  you  very  much. 

Mr.  Josserand,  we  appreciate  your  testimony. 

Mr.  Josserand.  Thank  you,  &b-.  Chairman. 

Mr.  English.  Our  next  witness  is  Mr.  Leo  Melamed,  who  is 
chairman  of  the  executive  committee  and  special  counsel  to  the 
board,  Chicago  Mercantile  Exchange  in  Chicago,  and  I  believe  he  is 
going  to  be  Eiccompeuiied  by  Mr.  William  Brodsky,  president  and 
chief  executive  officer,  and  I  beUeve  Mr.  Jerrold  Salzman  will  also, 
outside  counsel,  will  be  accompanying  him  as  well. 

Leo,  we  want  to  welcome  you  here  today  and  we  appreciate  you 
coining  down  and  testifying  on  this  legislation.  We  are  looking  for- 
ward to  hearing  your  views. 


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STATEMENT  OF  LEO  MELAMED,  CHAIRMAN  OF  THE  EXECUTIVE 

COMMITTEE  AND  SPECIAL  COUNSEL  TO  THE  BOARD,  CHICAGO 

MERCANTILE    EXCHANGE,    ACCOMPANIED    BY    WILLIAM    J. 

BRODSKY,  PRESIDENT  AND  CHIEF  EXECUTIVE  OFFICER,  AND 

JERROLD  E.  SALZMAN,  OUTSIDE  COUNSEL 

Mr.  Melamzd.  Thfink  you,  Mr,  Chairman  and  members  of  the 
subcommittee.  I  am  pleased  to  be  here  and  honored  to  represent 
the  Chicago  MercantUe  Exchange.  I  am  here  today  with  our  presi- 
dent, Mr.  Brodsky,  and  genered  counsel,  Mr.  Salzman. 

I  have  extensive  written  testimony,  Mr.  Chfurman,  that  I  would 
like  to  submit  for  the  record.  At  thus  time,  I  merely  would  like  to 
make  some  opening  remarks. 

Mr.  English.  Without  objection,  so  ordered. 

Mr.  Melamed.  Thtrnk  you. 

Mr.  Chairman,  I  wish  to  compliment  you  and  the  members  of 
this  subcommittee  on  the  investigative  effort  you  have  undertaken. 
It  is  critical  to  the  future  of  a  very  important  indtistry.  You  should 
recognize  that  the  expeditious  and  for^right  manner  in  which  you 
conducted  the  inquiry  serves  our  industry  very,  very  weU. 

I  am  pleased  that  whatever  help  we  were  able  to  give  you  in  the 
process  brought  the  investigation  to  a  very  expeditious  point  as  we 
sit  here  today.  I  surest  that  we  move  forward  from  here  with  a 
legislative  result  and  reauthorization. 

I  thank  you  for  undertaking  this  effort  in  the  manner  you  did. 

I  would  like  to  offer  a  little  historical  overview  on  the  Chicago 
Mercantile  Exchange  because  sometimes  it  gets  lost  in  the  shuffle. 
It  was  on  the  floor  of  our  exchange  some  25  to  27  years  ago  when 
this  industry  expanded  in  the  direction  that  brought  it  prominence 
and  importance — financial  futures. 

Such  instruments  as  futures  contracts  on  foreign  currencies.  Eur- 
odollars Emd  Treasury-bills  were  created  as  a  result  of  inventive 
genius  on  the  floor  of  our  exchange.  Those  financial  futures  later 
were  so  successful  that  they  transformed  our  entire  industry.  That 
led  to  instruments  such  as  U.S.  bonds  futures,  invented  at  the  Chi- 
cago Board  of  Trade  and  other  financial  futures  contracts  the 
world  over.  The  base  of  agriculture,  which  was  the  reason  for  these 
markets  in  the  first  instance — and  still  is  today — was  expanded 
into  finance.  It  became  so  coveted  an  idea  that  every  financial 
center  in  the  world  today  would  like  a  piece  of  that  action  that 
American  genius  invented.  We  are  very  proud  of  that,  as  you  are. 

After  the  1987  stock  market  crash,  there  was  a  cry  in  the  finan- 
cial community  that  perhaps  our  futures  markets  might  have  been 
a  factor  in  that  crash.  And  when  we  testified  before  Congress  on 
this  issue,  we  urged  Congress  not  to  do  Einything  that  might  iigure 
this  American  resource.  We  cautioned  that  if  they  did,  tiie  Ameri' 
can  financial  fabric  could  be  hurt  in  the  process. 

Indeed,  there  were  those  who  wanted  to  wrest  jurisdiction  from 
the  Agriculture  Committee  and  place  it  elsewhere.  And  we  testified 
and  urged  the  Congress  not  to  do  so. 

We  were  right.  Today's  hearing  is  evidence  of  our  view,  because 
this  committee  has  the  expertise,  the  knowledge,  the  history  of  the 
importance  of  our  markets  in  the  national  economy. 


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So,  as  we  come  before  you  today,  I  present  that  bit  of  history.  I 
Eim  proud  to  be  here  and  to  be  with  you  in  an  effort  to  make  our 
markets  better,  to  serve  not  just  the  national  interest  but  the  world 
interest  We  are  a  world  market  today,  and  everyone  comes  to  our 
doorstep.  We  want  to  provide  liquid  and  eEEicient  markets  so  that 
no  other  markets  in  the  world  can  wrest  this  American  invention 
away  £rom  us. 

1  thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman,  for  these  brief  opening  remarks.  I 
am  prepared  to  answer  any  questions  you  have. 

\The  prepeired  statement  of  Mr.  Melamed  appears  at  the  conclu- 
sion of  the  hearing.] 

Mr.  EInglish.  Thank  you  very  much,  Mr.  Melamed,  and  I  appre- 
ciate your  statement.  I  want  to  recognize  the  chairman  of  the  full 
committee,  Chairman  de  la  Garza,  who  has  joined  us. 

Mr.  Chairman,  do  you  have  any  comments  that  you  would  care 
to  make,  or  would  you  care  to  lead  us  off  in  the  questioning? 

REMARKS  OF  HON.  E  (KIKA)  de  la  GARZA,  A  REPRESENTATIVE  IN 
CONGRESS  FROM  THE  STATE  OF  TEXAS 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Chairman,  just  very  briefly,  I  want  to  com- 
mend you  and  members  of  the  subcommittee  for  the  very  efHcient, 
practical,  and  fair  way  that  you  have  conducted  the  hearings  on 
the  reauthorization  of  the  CPTC  and  all  of  the  other  issues  that  are 
before  you. 

I  want  to  very  much  extend  my  appreciation  to  the  industry  for 
the  manner  in  which  they  have  cooperated  with  us  without  excep- 
tion, all  s^ments  of  the  industry.  Your  responsibility  is  to  those 
that  you  serve.  We  appreciate  that.  Our  responsibili^  is  to  those 
that  we  serve,  including  you  and  those  you  serve.  So,  we  have  a 
mutual  interest  in  seeing  that  the  industry  works  hand-in-hand 
with  us  for  the  farmers  Euid  all  that  benefit  from  what  you  do. 

I  wish  to  thank  the  industry  for  the  excellent  way  they  have  co- 
cn>erated  with  us.  I  wUl  leave  the  time  for  questions  to  Uie  rest  of 
the  members  of  the  subcommittee,  Mr.  Chainnan. 

Thank  you  very  much. 

Mr.  EifGLiSH.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman.  We  appreciate  it  very 
much. 

Let  me  say,  as  we  begin  the  questions,  Leo,  I  do  not  suppose 
there  is  anyone  in  the  industry  that  is  r^arded  with  more  respect 
as  far  as  being  a  leader  in  innovation  and  a  leader  fis  far  as  the 
best  interest  of  the  futures  industry  is  concerned  than  you  ore.  I 
think  your  reputation  is  well  known. 

But  I  would  like  to  read  a  little  paragraph  to  you,  a  paragraph 
that  I  know  you  are  very  familiar  with  because  in  a  sense  you  wear 
two  hats.  You  wear  the  hat  from  the  standpoint  of  doing  what  is  in 
the  best  interest  of  the  futures  industry  and  looking  to  the  future 
as  to  how  we  can  best  approach  the  problems  that  the  industry 
may  have  and,  at  the  same  time,  you  wear  the  hat  of  representing 
the  Chicago  Mercantile  Exchange,  euid  most  times  those  hats  coin- 
cide find  fit  tc^ether  very  well. 

In  this  particular  instance,  the  pem^raph  I  want  to  point  out 
was  contamed  in  a  report  from  the  Chicago  Mercantile  Exchange, 
and  this  was  issued  on  Wednesday,  April  19,  of  this  year.  It  is  a 


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report  of  the  special  committee  to  review  the  trading  practi^s  of 
the  board  of  governors,  and  it  is  signed  by  a  very  distinguished 
group,  of  course  including  yourself,  people  who  are  highly  respect- 
ed including  a  former  Chairman  of  the  Commodity  Futures  Trad- 
ing Commission. 

It  talks  about  the  issue  of  dual  trading,  which  I  think  we  have 
had  a  great  deal  of  discussion  about,  and  it  goes  through  with 
regard  to  the  rationale  for  the  position  that  was  taken  by  this  com- 
mitt«e. 

It  states  that,  while  it  is  valid — the  good  points  for  dual  trading, 
it  has  become  painfully  evident  that  the  public  image  of  the  fu- 
tures markets  and  their  members  has  been  adversely  impacted  by 
the  widely  held  belief  that  dual  trading  in  the  futures  leads  to  cus> 
tomer  abuses.  All  past  efforts  to  explain  the  rationale  for  the 
CME's  continued  acceptance  of  dual  trading  have  proved  ineffec- 
tive. Moreover,  it  has  been  ar^ed  that,  as  tne  transaction  volume 
grew,  in  the  CME's  major  markets  the  need  for  dual  trading  to  pro- 
vide liquidity  in  those  major  miu'kets  became  a  less  imporUmt  con- 
sideration. 

This  was  the  justification  for  the  proposal  for  a  ban  on  dual  trad- 
ing. And  I  wanted  to  point  this  out  because  again  I  think  it  was  a 
veiy  responsible  act.  I  think  that  the  committee  put  this  together 
and  made  an  excellent  recommendation,  tind  also  that  the  provi- 
sions dealing  with  dual  trading  contained  in  the  legislation  before 
us  here  today  were  in  fact  modeled  after  those  very  recommenda- 
tions by  the  CME  as  is  the  case  with  regeird  to  some  of  the  other 
features.  Broker  associations,  for  instance,  is  almost  lifted  directly 
from  the  Chicago  Mercantile  Exchange. 

So,  that  along  with  the  fact  that  in  some  exchanges,  there  are 
some  contracts,  the  Standard  and  Poor's  500  contract  that  is  traded 
with  CME,  already  contains  a  version  of  a  ban.  I  believe  90  percent 
of  the  trades  that  take  place  in  that  contract,  dual  trading  is 
banned,  which  is  very  close  to  what  the  estimate  is  as  to  what  this 
legislation  would  be  as  far  as  industrywide. 

So,  I  guess  that  I  was  struck  by  the  fact,  on  the  one  hand,  it 
seems  that  you  are  moving  in  a  different  direction  than  this  com- 
mittee reported,  which  you  will  remember  in  which  you  signed  off 
on,  on  April  19. 

Would  it  be  fair  to  say  today  that  you  are  representing  the  Chi- 
cago Mercantile  Blxchange? 

Mr.  Melahed.  That  is  correct. 

Mr.  English.  And  would  it  fdso  be  fair  to  say  that  the  state- 
ments that  were  made  on  April  19  were  done  by  people  who  were 
extremely  knowledgeable  in  industry,  people  who  certainly  had  the 
best  interest  of  the  industry  at  heart,  people  who  certainly  would 
not  take  any  action  whatsoever  that  would  be  harmful  to  the  fu- 
tures industry  and  what  we  are  looking  to  forward  in  the  future? 

Mr.  Melamed.  Absolutely  correct. 

Mr.  English.  And  let  me  also  say  that  the  question  of  driving 
business  offshore — this  has  been  raised  a  couple  or  three  times — it 
would  seem  to  me  that  the  United  States,  as  it  stands  now,  certain- 
ly with  the  exchanges  that  we  have,  all  the  exchanges  I  eun  speak- 
ing of,  and  with  the  regulations,  with  the  systems  that  we  have, 
tiie  big  sellii^  point  that  the  United  States  has  and  what  is,  I 


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think,  a  strong  case  that  can  be  made  for  attracting  busineas  to  the 
United  States  is  the  fact  that  we  do  protect  the  customer. 

He  is  sure  that  he  is  going  to  be  treated  fairly,  and  that  that  in- 
t^rity  itself  is  a  very,  very  big  selling  point.  And  anything  that 
strengthens  that  int^rity  and  allows  us  to  point  to  higher  stand- 
ards, even  gives  us  a  better  case  to  be  made,  as  opposed  to  driving 
businees  ofbhore.  Would  you  agree  with  that? 

Mr.  Melahid.  I  would  agree. 

Mr.  English.  Mr.  Coleman. 

Mr.  CoLEBfAN.  I,  too,  Leo,  would  thank  you  and  the  Merc  for  your 
constructive  proposals.  And  I  think  of  all  the  players  in  the  fiiturea 
market,  you  all  have  responded  in  a  very  credible  fashion.  And  as 
the  chairman  has  indicated,  we  have  baaed  some  of  our  legislation 
on  the  concepts  and  the  recommendations  of  your  blue-ribbon  com- 
mittee. At  that  time,  they  were  only  recommendations  from  your 
committee,  but  they  seemed  to  be  closing  some  of  the  gaps. 

I  think  that  you  recognize,  that  the  board  recognizes  that  credi- 
bility is  the  issue  here,  and  that  we  do  not  want  anybody  to  ques- 
tion the  integrity  or  the  credibility  of  these  markets.  We  do  not 
want  to  drive  people  overseas.  We  want  to  retain  them.  We  want 
them  to  grow  and  prosper  but  within  a  context  and  framework  so 
everybody  knows  that  what  is  happening  is  aboveboard,  proper  and 
appropriate. 

Having  said  that,  you  still  differ  with  us  to  a  certain  extent  on 
the  dual  trading  aspect.  Your  proposal  is  not  exactly  identical  to 
the  one  we  have  in  the  bill.  And  it  is  based  upon  an  accuracy 
record  of  90  percent,  I  believe.  Once  you  get  to  that  level  and  verify 
that  level  your  proposal  would  allow  duEd  trading  to  occur.  Is  that 
basically  correct,  with  some  exceptions? 

Mr.  Melaiied.  That  is  right. 

Mr.  Coleman.  What  is  the  current  accuracy  record  on  your  ex- 
change? 

Mr.  Mblamed.  It  avereiges  approximately  85  percent  ex- 
changewide. 

Mr.  Coleman.  And  how  does  that  relate  to  5  or  10  years  ago? 

Mr.  Melaheo.  It  is  exceedingly  better  than  it  wfis  10  years  ago. 
We  did  not  have  a  Cl'K  system  to  measure  that  accura^  rate. 
CTR,  as  you  know,  is  a  result  of  a  lot  of  work  between  the  Qiicago 
Board  of  Trade  find  Chicago  Mercantile  Exchange.  It  was  imple- 
mented at  the  behest  of  the  CFTC  about  2  yetirs  ago  and  has  been 
given  great  credit  because  no  other  exchanges  in  the  world — not 
even  the  security  exchanges — have  a  system  that  is  as  efficient  and 
as  up-to-date  as  CTTR. 

It  can  be  made  better  and,  obviously,  that  is  our  goal. 

Mr.  Coleman.  Does  the  CFTC  have  a  standard  that  it  has  given 
you  or  goal  to  reach  within  a  certain  period  of  time? 

Mr.  Melamed.  I  do  not  know  that  we  are  on  a  set  standard.  I 
think  90  percent  has  been  sort  of  a  genered  goal  that  the  industry 
and  the  CFTC  would  like  to  strive  for. 

Mr.  Coleman.  Mr.  Salzman,  do  you  want  to  comment?  Do  you 
know  the  answer  to  that  question? 

Mr.  Sai^man.  Ninety  percent,  I  believe. 


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Mr.  CoLEMAM.  I  asked  this  of  Chairman  Gramm.  The  rule  the 
Commission  is  under  is  100  percent  accuracy,  but  nobody  has  at- 
tained that.  Is  that  true?  Is  that  your  understanding? 

Mr.  Melabied.  Not  my  understanding.  My  understanding  is  that 
the  goal  had  been  from  the  inception  ^t  about  90  percent  was  a 
reasonable  level  of  expectation  tnat  would  give  everyone  the  com- 
fort level  they  are  trying  to  achieve;  100  percent  is  d^fUcult  unless 
your  trade  is  done  on  a  computer. 

As  you  know,  we  have  plans  for  an  Eifter-hours  electronic  trans- 
action system  that  would  indeed  track  an  audit  trail  at  100  per- 
cent, but  that  is  without  human  beings.  There  are  no  humem 
beings  that  can  effectively  do  anything  at  the  100-percent  level;  but 
computers  can. 

In  electronic  after-hours  trciding  we  expect  the  audit  trail  to  be 
exactly  what  you  suggest. 

Mr.  Salzman.  I  would  just  like  to  add,  the  standard  that  we  are 
looking  at  is  90  percent  verifiably  accurate.  That  does  not  mean 
that  we  are  not  100  percent  accurate.  It  means  that  there  are  cei^ 
tain  times  assigned  to  trades  that  cannot  be  proved  through  other 
evidence  to  be  correct. 

We  think  that  a  very  substantial  percentage  of  those  trades  that 
are  not  "veritably"  accurate  are  accurately  timed. 

Mr.  COLEttAN.  What  would  be  those  types  of  trades? 

Mr.  Salzman.  The^^  would  be  trades  where  two  or  three  prices 
may  have  occurred  within  a  short  period  of  time,  and  where  we  do 
not  have  a  time  stamp  on  one  piece  of  paper  that  absolutely  shows 
tliat  the  trade  was  done  at  time  one  rather  than  time  two,  but  we 
have  other  reiisons  to  be  confident  that  it  was  done  at  tame  one 
rather  than  time  two.  We  do  not  count  that  as  verifiably  accurate. 

Mr.  CoLEfiiAN.  Now  our  standard  to  allow  dual  trading  is  pretty 
well  set  forth  in  the  exemption  which  says  that  an  audit  trail 
would  have  to  be  capable  of  detecting  emy  and  all  trading  viola- 
tions and  is  fully  venJEiable.  How  does  that  differ  from  your  propos- 
al? 

Mr.  Mklamed.  Well,  fully  verifiable  is  what  I  was  referring  to  fis 
a  very  difficult  standard  to  achieve.  While  we  expect  that  all  sys- 
tems can  do  better,  no  systems  will  ever  be  perfect.  So,  what  we  are 
suf^esting  is  that  we  are  going  to  try  to  aclueve  a  90  percent  verifi- 
able standeird.  At  that  point  in  time,  we  will  have  a  comfort  level 
that  ought  to  satisfy  all  reasonable  requests  in  terms  of  verifiabil- 
ity. 

Mr.  Coi^MAN.  Can  I  go  on,  Mr.  Chairman,  or  do  you  want  to  go 
around  again? 

Mr.  English.  I  think  without  question,  we  are  going  to  go  around 
again  because  I  have  some  additional  questions.  I  am  sure  other 
members  wUl  Eifterward. 

Mr.  Tallon. 

Mr.  Tallon.  Mr.  Chairman,  thank  you.  And,  Leo,  thank  you  for 
your  testimony. 

I  think  you  said  that  your  accuracy  of  your  audit  trail  is  about 
85  percent  overall  average  in  all  contracts.  How  long  do  you  think 
it  would  take  you  to  reach  90  percent  accuracy  with  the  technolo- 
gy? I  mean,  you  would  have  to  spend  more  money,  I  would  assume, 
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Could  that  be  done  in  12  months,  15  months? 

Mr.  Melamed.  Well,  I  believe  we  can  do  it  rather  quickly.  I 
would  not  want  to  label  it  within  a  couple  of  months,  nor  are  we 
talking  in  terms  of  many  years.  Some  time  within  1  year  it  can  be 
done,  probably  substantially  less  than  1  year. 

The  way  to  do  it  though  is  not  just  to  throw  money  at  it.  Many  of 
the  reforms  that  were  suggested  by  the  Special  Committee  To 
Review  Trading  Practices  that  Chairman  English  has  made  refer- 
ence to,  are  the  reforms  that  have  to  be  adopted — the  hourly  pick 
up  of  the  trading  cards,  special  brackets  at  the  opening  and  at  the 
close,  lowering  the  half-hour  bracket  to  a  smaller  increment  <k 
time  like  15  minutes. 

With  few  exceptions,  the  reforms  recommended  by  the  special 
panel  have  been  adopted  by  our  board.  These  reforms  will  serve  to 
increase  accuracy  of  the  audit  trail. 

Mr.  Tallon.  Leo,  would  the  system  you  have  and  improvements 
in  the  system  you  have  and  doing  everything  you  can  do,  how  difiQ- 
cult  is  it  going  to  be  to  meet  this  bUl's  requirement  of  detecting 
any  and  all  of  these?  Ceui  you  do  it? 

Mr.  Mblamed.  Any  and  all,  I  do  not  think  so.  If  you  had  100  pei^ 
cent  veriflability,  you  would  not  detect  any  and  all  abuses  because 
people  are  people.  I  do  not  know  of  a  system  yet  devised,  in  any 
industry,  anywhere  in  the  world  that  can  detect  all  abuses. 

I  do  not  believe  our  system  and  the  people  who  work  within  it 
are  worse  than  anybody  else,  but  I  do  not  think  you  can  detect  100 
percent  of  anything  anywhere. 

Mr.  Coleman.  Where  is  dued  trading  banned  in  exchangee  that 
you  would  be  competing  with  around  the  world? 

Mr.  Melambj).  There  is  hardly  eaiy  ban  on  dual  trading  in  the 
United  States  or  world  financial  markets.  In  the  securities  market 
there  certainly  is  no  ban — the  specialists  on  the  New  York  Stock 
Exchange  are  dual  traders.  The  financial  mtmager  in  cash  markets, 
be  it  currencies  or  be  it  bonds,  be  it  any  cash  market,  is  a  dual 
trader. 

I  dare  say  that  is  true  in  the  agricultural  industry  as  well.  It  is 
certainly  true  throu^out  the  world  in  all  the  forms  and  in  all  the 
fincuicifd  centers  and  all  the  futures  exchanges.  Throughout  the 
world  there  is  a  form  of  dual  tradii^.  It  is  not  banned. 

Now  it  is  not  always  the  same,  but  it  is  not  banned. 

Mr.  Tallon.  Leo,  the  specialists  on  the  New  York  Stock  Ex- 
chfinge,  those  dual  traders,  how  many  of  them  are  there? 

Mr.  Melamed.  Mr.  Brodsky. 

Mr.  Brodsky.  I,  of  course,  cannot  speak  for  the  New  York  Stock 
Exchange,  but  basically  on  the  New  York  Stock  Exchange  there 
are  about  1,300  members,  and  I  would  guess  there  are  probably 
about  500  members  who  are  engaged  full  time  as  specialists.  Aj^un, 
I  am  giving  you  an  estimate. 

Of  course,  what  is  significant  about  the  New  York  Stock  Ex- 
change's system  is  that  a  specialist  has  the  sole  franchise  to  toade  a 
particular  product,  where  in  our  markets  there  is  competition  be- 
tween floor  traders  Euid  among  floor  traders.  So,  there  are  signifi- 
cant differences,  but  in  the  pedicular  case  of  the  New  York  Stock 
Exchange,  the  specialist  maintains  the  only  public  limit  order 


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book,  and  has  access  to  that  book,  and  also  has  the  right  to  trade 
for  his  own  account. 

Of  course,  this  has  been  a  subject  of  review  by  other  congression- 
al committees  for  many  decades. 

Mr.  Tallon.  And  how  many  traders,  how  many  seats  do  you  all 
have  on  the  Chic^o  Mercantile  Exchange? 

Mr.  Brodsky.  We  have  approximately  2,700  seats  on  our  ex~ 
chaise.  So  we  have  more  thfin  double  the  amount  on  the  New 
York  Stock  Exchange. 

Mr.  Tallon.  And  of  those  2,700,  do  you  have  emy  idea  how  many 
of  those  people  or  what  percentage  of  them  are  in  dual  trade? 

Mr.  Melamed.  I  would  say  we  are  talking  about  in  the  nature  of 
maybe  33,  40  percent. 

Mr.  Tallon.  So  40  percent  of  2,700,  you  have  certainly  got  a  lot 
more  specialists. 

Mr.  Melamed.  I  might  be  too  high.  It  might  be  a  lot  less  than 
that.  We  have  never  taken  the  actual  count.  So,  the  rcmge  of  40 
percent  might  be  far  too  high.  It  might  be  down  to,  say,  25  percent, 
m  that  area. 

Mr.  Tallon.  Well,  today,  if  all  of  a  sudden  at  11  o'clock  this 
morning,  none  of  those  2,700  floor  brokers  were  allowed  to  dual 
b'ade  anymore,  what  kind  of  impact  do  you  think  it  might  have  on 
liquidity  on  your  exchange? 

Mr.  Melamed.  Well,  that  is  the  $64,000  question.  I  am  afraid 
that  it  is  very  difficult  to  answer  except  to  say  it  would  be  dan^^ 
ous  because  dual  traders  provide  a  form  of  liquidity  in  certain  pits. 
Depending  on  the  nature  of  the  market,  they  provide  a  mainstay  of 
liquidity.  It  is  not  even.  I  mesm  there  are  some  msu-kets  that  need 
it  more  than  others. 

But  that  is  the  danger  in  this  delicate  balance  between  the  per- 
ceived evil  that  dual  trading  might  represent,  which  is  a  percep- 
tion, and  the  reality  of  the  liquidity  they  do  provide,  which  is  reaU- 
ty.  And  in  trying  to  balcmce  the  two,  we  are  always  very  mindful  of 
the  fact  that  if  we  go  too  much  to  one  direction,  we  hurt  the  other 
direction.  You  are  talking  perception  versus  reality. 

Your  question  is  right  on  the  button,  very  important.  I  cannot 
answer  the  question  but  to  say  that  it  is  a  dangerous  kind  of  situa- 
tion. We  must  be  very  carefiil  not  to  injure  whatever  liquidity  that 
is  provided  by  those  traders. 

Mr.  Tallon.  It  might  even  possibly  be  catastrophic.  If  nobody 
were  edlowed  at  11  o'clock  this  morning  to  dual  trade  anymore,  1h© 
spread  could  become  impossible  and  there  would  be  no  more  liquid- 
ity. 

Mr.  Melamed.  I  would  not  rule  that  out.  That  is  one  of  the  dan- 
gers that  we  aire  dealing  with  absolutely. 

Mr.  Tallon.  Thank  you.  My  time  has  expired,  Mr.  Chairman. 

Mr.  EbiGLiSH.  Mr.  Combest. 

Mr.  CoMBBST.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Chaimmn. 

Mr.  Melfuned,  I  need  to  replow  a  little  ground  here,  and  I  apolo- 
gize to  my  colleagues  if  I  am  the  only  one  that  is  a  little  fuzzy  on 
this,  but  I  need  to  try  to  make  sure  I  Eun  clear  on  what  you  are 
saying. 

In  your  testimony  on  page  18,  reference  to  any  and  all  instances 
of  trading  violations  and  Uie  requirements  that  the  audit  trail  be 


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fully  verifiable,  you  say  these  are  impossible  standards.  Perfection 
is  not  attainable  in  the  futures  industry  nor  in  any  other.  Detec- 
tion of  any  and  all  instances  of  wrong-doing  is  an  unreasonable 
standard  that  can  never  be  met. 

Yet,  I  thought  I  heard  you  define  that  probability  of  reaching 
that  as  very  difficult  in  a  question  to  Mr.  Coleman. 

Let  me  make  it  for  sure.  Is  your  testimony  that  you  are  saying 
that  detection  of  any  and  edl  Euid  the  fully  verifiable  are  impossi- 
ble, you  cannot  attain  it  ever,  period?  Is  that  right? 

Mr.  Melambd.  In  the  environment  of  open  outciy,  when  humans 
are  the  element  being  used  to  create  the  transaction,  I  am  saying 
yes  to  your  question.  It  is  impossible. 

If  you  aie  talking  about  the  electronic  or  technological  world 
such  as  with  computers,  such  as  we  are  also  suggesting  to  create,  it 
is  not  impossible.  In  fact,  we  will  attain  it. 

Mr.  CoMBEST.  It  was  suggested  by  someone — and  I  apologize  I 
cannot  recall  who;  I  do  not  guess  it  really  matters — that  that  tech- 
nology is  available  today. 

Mr.  MELAHsn.  In  terms  of  computers,  it  is,  yes.  And  we  will  use 
it. 

Mr.  CoBiiBKffT.  In  follow-up  to  the  chairman's  initial  questioning,  I 


want  to  be  sure  I  am  also  clear  on  this  issue,  are  you  saying  t£at 
you  would  not  be  concerned — are  you  saying  that  if  the  bill  in  its 
current  form  passes  find  becomes  law,  that  you  would  not  be  con- 


cerned about  any  loss  of  business  offshore? 

Mr.  Melahed.  No,  I  am  not  saying  that. 

If  the  bill  passes  in  its  current  form  and  if  we  cannot  comply 
with  the  requirements  and  the  standards  set  find  if,  in  ikct,  we 
have  taken  away  dual  trading  capability  ^m  a  large  s^ment  of 
our  market  participants,  I  am  very  much  concerned  with  what  will 
happen  to  liquidity. 

Our  competitors  are  now  worldwide  as  1  said  in  the  openii^  re- 
marks. The  Japanese  just  this  Jime  opened  a  market  direct^  in 
competition  with  the  inventions  of  the  Chicago  Mercantile  Ex- 
change. As  you  know,  the  Japanese  are  very  competent  in  what 
they  do. 

I  am  very  concerned  that  they  can  and  will  attempt  to  wreet 
these  markete  from  us.  I  am  not  at  all  saying  that  they  cannot. 
Even  standing  with  us  toe  to  toe,  without  any  restrictions  on  our 
mtu-ket,  it  is  ^oing  to  be  a  difficult  battle  as  it  is.  With  restrictions 
that  might  injure  the  liquidity  base  of  our  markete,  then  I  say  erne 
of  our  hands  is  going  to  be  tied  behind  our  back.  I  do  not  want  to 
go  into  that  kind  of  fight,  cmd  I  know  Congress  would  not  want  us 
to. 

Mr.  CoMBEST.  One  of  the  caveats  you  said  where  you  would  be 
concerned  about  loss  of  business  was  if  we  could  not  comply.  If  the 
bill  passes  in  ite  current  form,  do  you  think  that  it  is  possible  for 
you  to  comply  with  it? 

Mr.  Melameo.  Not  with  100  percent. 

Mr.  CoMBEffT.  Thank  you. 

Mr.  Engush.  Ms.  Long. 

Ms.  Long.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman. 

I  would  like  to  talk  a  little  bit  more  about  liquidity.  Liquidity  up 
to  a  point  is  good,  but  liquidity  can  be  so  great  uiat  it  just  ii 


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the  volatility  in  a  market.  We  have  been  operatiiig  I  think  a  bit 
under  the  assumption  that,  as  long  as  we  have  dual  trading,  we 
can  increase  liquidity,  and  by  increasing  Uquidity  we  have  a  more 
efficient  market,  a  better  running  market. 

I  would  like  to  ask  you:  Do  you  believe  that  in  the  past  there  has 
been  at  different  points  in  time  so  much  liquidity  that  it  has  led  to 
greater  volatility  in  the  market,  and  as  a  consequence  problems 
with  tremendous  price  fluctuations? 

Mr.  Melamed-  With  all  due  respect,  I  know  of  no  study  from  any 
academic  source  that  would  suggest  that  liquidity  creates  volatility. 
Just  the  opposite,  in  fact.  Our  experience  and  all  academic  studies 
have  shown  that  in  markets  that  nave  less  liquidity,  have  more  vol- 
atility. Price  gaps  develop  between  the  current  price  and  the  next 
price  simply  because  there  are  not  enough  bids  and  offers  flowing 
to  that  marketplace. 

All  studies  would  underscore  the  fact  that  liquidity  lessons  vola- 
tility. The  more  hquidity  you  have,  the  thicker  the  market.  The 
thicker  the  market,  the  less  volatility.  That  is  not  to  say  that  vola- 
tility cannot  occur  for  a  lot  of  other  ffictors,  and  does,  but  not  be- 
cause of  liquidity. 

Ms.  Long.  But  it  can;  once  you  get  beyond  sort  of  an  optimal 
point,  it  can  do  that.  And  what  I  am  asking  you  is:  Have  you  seen 
that?  And  apparently  from  your  response  you  have  not  seen  that  in 
your  experience. 

Mr.  Melamed.  I  have  not  seen  it,  nor  do  I  believe  the  theory  is 
that  it  would  occur  beyond  a  certain  point.  As  a  matter  of  fact,  all 
theory  I  have  seen  suggests  the  opposite.  The  more  liquidity,  the 
thicker  the  meirket,  theless  volatility. 

Ms.  Long.  Up  to  a  point,  that  is  absolutely  correct  up  to  a  point. 

Mr.  Melamed.  I  have  not  seen  that  point  nor  seen  it  in  theory.  I 
hate  to  differ  with  you,  but  from  my  reading  and  m^  understand- 
ing of  what  the  meu-ket  is,  and  from  practical  experience,  there  is 
no  particular  point.  It  is  just  simply  the  more  liquid  a  market,  the 
thicker  it  is. 

As  the  gentleman  who  testified  on  behcilf  of  the  NCA,  Mr.  Josser- 
and,  said  that  as  far  as  he  is  concerned,  the  more  Uquidity,  the 
better.  Sometimes  the  view  is  that  there  is  something  wrot^  with 
Uqxiidity.  Actually,  what  that  means  is  more  bids  and  offers  and 
pEurticipants  in  the  mtu-ket. 

Ms.  Long.  But  it  depends  upon— the  reason  you  have  participa- 
tion in  the  market  depends  upon  whether  you  have  speculation 
that  is  leading  to  liquidity,  versus  you  have  participation  by  people 
who  have  an  actual  end  use  for  the  commodity.  And  all  of  those 
variables  are  going  to  influence  how  positive  liquidity  is. 

Mr.  Melamed.  The  end-user  of  Uie  meirket  comd  not  survive 
without  the  speculator  because  it  is  the  speculator  who  takes  the 
risk.  The  perfect  market  where  there  is  no  speculator,  you  can  find 
in  some  pleices  in  the  world,  but  they  have  no  meu-ket.  And  you  are 
acquainted  with  those  places. 

We  need  the  speculator.  The  speculator's  bids  and  offers  are  no 
different  in  the  marketplace  than  is  the  end  user's  bid  and  offer. 
The  bid  and  offer  is  the  same.  It  is  called  liquidity. 

Ms.  Long.  But,  of  course,  we  need  the  speculator  but  we  need  to 
have  some  kind  of  balance  between  speculation  and  end  use  of  the 


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commodity,  and  all  of  these  things  have  to,  in  order  for  the  market 
to  be  fairly  stable,  be  at  some  level  of  balance. 

I  think  that  what  we  are  looking  for  here,  and  I  would  naanma 
what  you  are  looking  for  there,  is  a  means  of  operating  the  ex- 
changes so  that  we  are  close  to  that  balance  moet  of  the  time. 

I  am  trying  to  get  from  you — I  think  I  am  getting  a  pretty  rea- 
sonable assessment  of  where  you  stand  and  what  you  beheve — 
what  is  a  reeisonable  level  of  liquidity,  how  much  dual  trading  con- 
tributes  to  that  liquidity  so  that  we  can  then  determine,  and  I  indi- 
vidufijly  can  determine,  under  what  circumstances  dual  trading  is 
in  fact  useful  for  the  exchanges. 

In  your  Eissessment,  the  more  liquidity,  the  better.  Is  that  a  fair 
assessment? 

Mr.  Melamed.  That  is  correct. 

Ms.  Long.  Thank  you. 

Mr.  Melamed.  I  do  not  know  other  than  that  what  to  think  be- 
cause we  have  both  theoretical  and  practical  experience  supporting 
this.  As  ffir  as  the  balance  between  speculation  and  commendal  ac- 
tivity, each  market  has  a  different  balance.  There  is  no  particular 
rule  on  that  either. 

Some  markets  that  I  am  Eicquainted  with  that  are  very,  very  suc- 
cessful have  as  high  as  a  95  percent  factor  of  commeixnal  activity 
and  only  a  5  percent  factor  of  speculative  activity.  On  the  other 
hand,  I  know  of  markets  that  are  also  ver^,  very  successful  that 
have  a  70  percent  factor  of  speculative  activity  and  a  30  percent 
factor  of  commercial  activity,  and  yet  they  too  are  succesBfol.  And 
everything  in  between  those  two  extremes  can  find  balance  and 
successful  markets. 

Tliere  is  no  particular  rule  I  know  of  that  can  tell  us  what  the 
optimum  bahmce  ought  to  be.  The  marketplace  is  the  only  one  that 
can  determine  that,  and  thank  God  that  we  have  a  system  of  firee 
markets  that  allows  the  marketplace  to  seek  that  kind  of  leveL 

I  will  say  this.  If  the  correct  level  is  not  achieved  by  the  market 
itself,  that  market  will  not  exist  and  it  will  die,  and  many  markets 
do.  But  as  long  as  the  marketplace  succeeds,  then  by  definition  I 
think  it  has  found  a  level  of  bfdance  that  fdlows  the  market  to 
exist. 

Mr.  Engush.  Mr.  Harris. 

Mr.  Harris.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman. 

Excuse  me,  Mr.  Chairman.  I  promoted  him.  You  know,  I  do  not 
think  there  is  a  person  on  the  committee  who  does  not  want  to  see 
that  the  integrity  of  the  market  is  maintained,  and  I  know  that  is 
a  concern  of  all  of  us  as  well  as  you.  And  I  know  I  do  not  want  to 
see  anything  done  that  would  drive  the  business  overseas. 

So  I  guess  what  I  am  asking  you  on  the  question  of  dual  trading, 
what  recommendation  would  you  make  to  us?  1  know  that,  for  in- 
stance, the  cattlemen  recommended  an  outright  ban.  Of  course,  our 
bill  is  sort  of  a — it  does  not,  it  is  not  Em  outright  ban.  It  has  got 
some  limitations  on  it.  What  would  you  recommend  to  do  on  that? 

Mr.  Melamed.  Thank  you,  Congressman,  for  the  opportunity  to 
respond  to  this  important  question.  And  in  doing  bo,  1  would  like  to 
also  refer  to  the  chairman's  question  about  the  original  proposal  by 
the  specifd  committee  to  ban  dual  trading  in  mature  liquid  mar- 
kets. 


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That  same  committee  was  reconvened  recently  when  the  CME's 
internal  committee  proposed  Ein  Eiltemative  to  the  special  commit- 
tee's ban  on  dual  trtiding  in  mature,  liquid  mfirkets.  The  special 
committee  unanimously  approved  the  internal  committee's  recom- 
mendation and  said  that  it  was  fully  equivalent  to  their  own  rec- 
ommendation. 

In  response  to  your  question,  the  internal  committee  recognized, 
as  did  the  special  committee,  that  a  delicate  balance  exists  between 
the  perception  that  dual  trading  might  allow  someone — and  it  is 
true — to  violate  the  rules— front-running,  and  so  forth,  etc, — versus 
the  liquidity  dual  trading  provides. 

How  do  you  find  that  delicate  balance?  It  is  suggested  that  if  we 
could  find  a  way  to  catch  enough  of  those  culprits  that  would  use 
dual  trading  to  their  own  advantage  and  to  the  disadvemtage  of  a 
pubhc  customer,  and  if  we  could  do  that  enough  of  the  time  to  give 
us  the  level  of  integrity  that  we  seek,  then  we  could  preserve  the 
positive  aspects  of  dual  trading  which  is  its  liquidity.  That  level  is 
the  90  percent  verifiability  for  the  timing  of  trades  through  the 
computerized  trade  reconstruction  system. 

And  if  we  can  sichieve  90  percent  verifiability,  it  is  felt  that  we 
will  catch  the  wrongdoer  enough  of  the  time  that  we  can  afford  to 
maintain  the  dual  trading  system.  The  special  committee  agreed 
that  this  approEich  was  clearly  adequate  £md  as  good  as  their  own 
approach. 

Those  markets  that  cannot  achieve  the  level  of  90  percent  verifi- 
abihty  will  lose  the  right  to  dual  trade. 

Mr.  Harkis.  Thfmk  you.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman. 

Mr.  English.  Mr.  Staggers. 

Mr.  Staggers.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairmim. 

Following  up  on  Mr.  Harris'  question,  the  flaw  in  that  would 
seem  to  be  that  if  we  set  a  standard  of  90  percent,  then  we  are  tell- 
ing people  as  long  as  you  only  do  10  percent,  you  fu-e  OK. 

Is  there  another  way  we  can  do  that  as  opposed  to  the  "any"  and 
"all,"  language  that  is  in  the  bill.  And  I  think  that  is  what  Mr. 
Harris  was  getting  at,  I  think  we  are  looking  for  ways  to  get 
around  the  Emy"  and  "all,"  but  if  we  say  eis  long  as  you  work 
toward  the  10  percent,  I  realize  that  setting  the  standards  -works 
both  ways.  That  is  my  question,  if  we  say  it  is  OK  for  10  percent, 
90  percent  is  a  laudable  goal,  especially  in  today's  society.  But  if  we 
do  have  the  increfise  in  technology,  I  mean,  why  not  have  a  goal  of 
100  percent  and  leave  it  to  the  discretion  of  the  CFTC,  or  what- 
ever? 

Mr.  Melamed.  We  are  not  saying  that  if  we  have  90  percent  ver- 
ifiability, the  other  10  percent  is  OK.  lliat  clearly  is  not  in  our 
intent  and  it  is  not  the  way  this  would  work. 

The  90  percent  verifiability  would  be  accomplished  by  a  system 
that  can  detect  90  percent  of  any  untimed  trades.  The  rest  of  the 
system,  however,  is  geared  to  detect  anything  within  that  other  10 
percent.  These  trades  may  be  timed  correctly.  Our  Ll'K  system 
cannot,  however,  tell  us  this.  AU  our  rules  and  the  package  of  re- 
forms is  very  very  comprehensive.  And  we  feel  that  with  all  these 
rules  together,  our  exchange  will  have  a  surveillance  capability  we 
feel  is  second  to  none.  "Hiere  is  one  element  we  have  recently 
agreed  to  do,  which  I  would  like  to  explain  if  I  could. 


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Mr.  EiHOLiBH.  Sure. 

Mr,  Melamed.  What  we  are  suggesting  ia  that  every  morning, 
the  previous  day's  record  of  transactions  be  given  to  every  membra" 
of  our  exchange  within  an  hour  of  the  next  day's  opening  so  that 
eadi  of  the  2,700  members  of  the  exchange,  most  of  whom  are  not 
dual  traderB,  can  act  as  poUcemen  themselves.  By  examining  the 
record  of  the  previous  day's  trades,  they  will  be  able  to  detect 
whether  any  fimny  trades  occurred  in  their  own  pit,  and  come  foi^ 
ward  with  supporting  evidence. 

As  a  matter  of  feict,  many  of  our  Banctions  today  are  self-generat- 
ed, as  you  know,  by  the  exchange's  floor  membership.  Thia  has 
never  been  done  by  any  exchange,  and  it  ia  only  made  possible  be- 
cause computerized  trade  reconstruction — CTR — allows  us  the 
luxury  of  quickly  reconstructing  the  previous  day's  trades.  We  can 
give  our  membeiB  this  important  tool  the  next  day  as  another  self- 
policing  tool  for  that  additional  10  percent.  Indeed,  we  have  many 
many  rules  in  place  that  will  be  more  than  enough  to  take  care  m 
the  other  10  percent,  which  may  be  timed  correctly. 

We  are  suggesting  so  comprehensive  a  package  that  I  believe  this 
committee  will  be  very  pleased.  I  know  our  goals  are  the  same.  I 
have  no  doubt  that  everyone  of  us  has  the  same  goal — to  have  our 
markets  the  most  efficient  and  with  the  highest  integrity  possible.  I 
commend  you  all,  and  of  course  the  chairman,  for  movmg  fonrard 
in  that  direction. 

Mr.  Staggers.  Following  up  once  again  with  what  Mr.  Harris 
said,  I  think  I  agree  with  you  that  our  goals  are  similar,  our  search 
for  putting  t^^ether  some  language  which  can  accomplish  that. 

My  undeiBtanding  is  the  system  that  you  have  now  could  do 
about  90  percent  anyway.  What  1  guess  1  am  saying  ia  if  we  write 
that  into  law,  shouldn't  we — 1  do  not  know  what  you  mean  by  the 
90  percent.  I^iouldn't  we  have  some  flexibility  to  allow  somebody 
else  to  review  this  and  to  say,  well,  maybe  next  year,  or  5  years 
from  now,  you  can  do  better;  95  might  be  the  standard  whitm  we 
want  to  achieve. 

I  agree  that  100  percent  of  anything  is  very  difficult  to  accom- 
plish. And  I  see  the  point,  but  1  am  looking  at  it  from  a  legislator's 
standpoint  of  how  we  put  t^ether  something  that  is  less  than  the 
"any'  and  "all,"  of  the  100  percent.  Now,  1  am  searching. 

Mr.  Melamed.  1  am  too.  I  agree  with  you  that  we  should  always 
try  for  better.  Certainly  90  percent  is  the  goal  we  have  in  finnt  of 
us  at  this  moment.  But  what  we  suggested  is  that  we  give  the 
CFTC  the  authority  to  make  the  determination  whether  we  have 
achieved  the  90  percent. 

We  do  not  want  to  be  the  umpire  involved,  because  that  certainly 
would  not  be  fair.  We  would  like  the  umpire  to  be  unbiased,  one 
with  the  capability  to  make  that  determination,  and  that  is  the 
Commodity  Futures  Trading  Commission. 

Mi.  Staggers.  Thank  you.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman. 

Mr.  English.  Thank  you  very  much,  Mr.  Staggers. 

Mr.  Sarpalius. 

Mr.  Sarfauus.  No  queetions. 

Mr.  English.  Mr.  Holloway. 

Mr.  Holloway.  Thank  you  very  much. 


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I  know  the  testimony  has  been  that  undoubtedly  the  feeling  out 
in  America  is  that  dual  trading  has  problems.  I  would  like,  just  for 
tiie  record,  for  the  two  of  you  with  both  the  Chicago  Board  and  the 
Chicago  Mercantile,  exactly  what  do  your  exchanges  mean  to  this 
country,  to  the  city  of  Chicago?  Knowing  that  we  have  been  told 
over  and  over  of  the  problems  that  we  are  going  to  have  with  the 
Japanese  taking  it  over  exactly  in  jobs  and  money,  what  do  thrae 
two  exchanges  mestn  to  our  country,  the  city  of  Chicago? 

Mr.  Meluied.  Thank  you  for  the  opportunity  to  respond. 

To  the  city  of  Chicago  and  State  of  niinois,  Chicago's  four  ex- 
changes are  the  central  economic  engine  in  th^t  area  of  the  Mid- 
west. 

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Iowb:] 

More  than  33,000  jolM  are  provided  by  the  exchangee,  their  membere  and  the  or- 
ganizationB  that  provide  services  to  them.  Over  110,000  total  indirect  jobs  can  be  at- 
tributed to  exchange  economic  activi^.  More  than  Jll  million  vearl^  in  proper^ 
taxes  is  paid  on  bufldingi  that  house  the  exchangee.  Nearly  $1  billion  is  spent  annu- 
ally on  exchatuce-relatea  goods  and  services  in  the  Chicago  area.  Member  firms  have 
an  average  of  $4  billion  on  deposit  in  Chicago  banks  on  a  typical  day. 

Mr.  Melamed.  But  those  are  not  as  important  as  the  fact  that 
our  markets  are  now  so  central  to  the  financial  fabric  of  this 
Nation.  I  would  like  to  relate  an  anecdote.  After  the  1987  crash,  I 
met  with  the  heads  of  those  financial  firms  in  New  York  that  are 
at  the  top  of  the  financial  structure  in  this  coimtry-  One  of  those 
gentlemen  said  to  me  that  before  you  testify  in  Congrees  to  the 
Banking  Committee  on  these  issues,  remember  that  your  markets 
now  are  such  a  financial  resource  in  this  country,  that  we  dare  not 
do  anythii^  that  would  destroy  or  hurt  them  or  drive  them  some- 
where else,  because  they  no  longer  are  simply  an  out-of-the-way 
little  marketplace.  They  are  now  centrsd. 

In  fact,  the  Treasurer  of  the  United  States,  Mr.  Brady,  called  it 
one  market;  the  securities  market,  the  futures  market,  and  the  op- 
tions market  are  now  one  market.  E^ach  one  of  them  is  such  an  im- 
portant element  in  the  overall  financial  landscape  that  we  cannot 
exist  without  any  one  of  them.  And,  of  course,  the  rest  of  the  world 
would  love  to  get  their  hands  on  our  markets. 

Mr.  HoLLOWAY.  Thank  you.  1  mean,  I  know  that  we  have  to  be 
very  careful.  But  I  think  we  have  to  realize  that  if  we  make  the 
wrong  move,  we  very  likely  could  let  the  Japanese  take  another 
one  of  the  many  industries  they  have  taken  away  from  us  out  of 
our  country. 

I  think  we,  as  a  committee,  t  hope  we  proceed  cautiously.  I  am 
not  here  to  tell  you  that  I  totally  understand  the  working  of  the 
Chicago  Board  of  Trade  or  the  Chicago  Mercantile.  And  I  hope  to 
gain  in  knowledge  as  we  go  on  to  educate  myself  toward  it.  But  I 
just  hope  that  we,  as  a  committee,  are  very  very  carefiil  with  what 
we  do  to  our  country  as  far  as  driving  this  abroad.  Thank  you. 

Mr.  Melamed.  Thankyou. 

The  Chairman.  Mr.  Chairman,  if  I  might  have  a  question  of  Bdr. 
Melamed,  if  you  would. 

I  think  you  gave  a  very  good,  succinct,  factual  description  of  dual 
tradii^.  My  perception  is  that  the  dual  trader  is  not  the  problem, 
but  rather  if  you  front  run.  Then  the  question  I  would  like  fbr  you 


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to  address  is  if  the  front  run  may  or  may  not  be  to  the  disadvan- 
tage of  a  customer.  What  is  the  experience  in  that  area?  Just  de- 
tecting that  someone  bought  for  himself  rather  than  for  a  custom- 
er, gives  UB  numbers  in  a  vacuum.  You  smd  most  of  the  witnesses 
here  are  the  experts.  We  deal  mostly  from  theory  rather  than  from 
actual  experience.  We  have  to  accept  that  and  appreciate  that.  But 
I  would  hope  that  we  can  put  in  the  record  a  little  more  explana- 
tion in  the  whys  and  wherefores  and  you  address  it  in  part. 

Could  you  help  us  with  that,  Mr.  Melamed? 

Mr.  Melahed.  I  would  be  pleased  to,  Mr.  Chairman. 

I  want  to  say,  first  off,  that  our  rules  very  explicitly  label  any 
front  running  as  a  violation.  Front  running  simply  means  that 
when  a  broker  has  an  order  for  a  customer  in  hand,  he  dare  not  do 
a  trade  for  his  own  account  ahead  of  that  order  for  the  customer. 

That  does  not  mean  that  when  he  violates  that  rule  he  automati- 
cally  ii^ures  the  customer.  That  has  to  be  examined  in  a  courtroom 
or  before  a  committee.  Let's  say  the  broker  filled  the  order  for  the 
customer  and  for  himself  at  the  same  price  and  everybody  got  the 
same  price.  Of  course  there  was  no  injury  involved.  But  the  rule 
had  been  violated  just  the  same. 

We  look  at  that  very,  very  strictly.  In  effect,  you  cannot  and  dare 
not  violate  the  rule  of  front  running.  We  feel  that  dual  trading 
does  give  the  opportunity  for  that  kind  of  thing.  That  is  why  we 
are  here  and  talking  about  it. 

But  I  must  tell  you,  Mr.  William  T.  Cheny,  staff  director,  of  this 
subcommittee  correctly  stated  to  this  committee  that  dual  trading 
is  not  inherently  evil,  that  banning  dual  trading  does  not  cure  all 
evil,  and  that  there  is  nothing  that  cannot  be  done  without  dual 
trading  that  can  be  done  with  dual  trsiding. 

In  fact,  he  indicated  that  there  are  only  two  kinds  of  violations 
that  can  occur  because  of  dual  trading:  When  a  broker  trades 
ahead  of  a  customer's  order;  and  taking  a  position  against  a  cus- 
tomer. This  kind  of  thing  is  one  of  the  easiest  abuses  to  detect.  If 
you  ban  it,  all  you  are  going  to  do  is  eillow  that  dual  trader  to  find 
a  different  way  to  violate.  That  violation  is  going  to  occur  if  he 
chooses  to  violate.  And  we  have  to  find  him  anyway. 

So  you  are  right  in  saying  that  to  ban  dual  trading  will  not  cure 
the  evil  involved. 

The  Chairbian.  The  next  item,  Mr.  Melamed.  you  mentioned 
briefly  the  problems  with  the  securities  industry  in  New  York.  And 
you  mentioned  your  resources  as  to  information. 

Could  you  expand  on  that?  I  know  that  we  heard  that  you  were 
supplying  to  the  SBC  information  that  they  did  not  have  readily  at 
hand. 

Mr.  Melamed.  I  could  do  it  best  by  telling  you  this  incident. 

Mr.  Nicholfis  Brady,  who  is  now  Secretajr^  of  Treasury,  headed 
the  Presidential  task  force  investigating  The  1987  stodk  loaxkBt 
crash.  When  he  visited  our  exchai^e  within  1  week  or  so  after  the 
crash,  he  sat  down  with  us  smd  had  a  long  list  of  the  kind  of  infca- 
mation  that  the  committee  he  w£is  heading  would  need  in  ito  study. 
He  Eisked  us  how  long  it  would  be  before  we  could  give  him  our 
response  to  this  information,  a  lot  of  statistical  information  about 
the  trades  that  occurred  during  the  week  of  October  19.  We  toM 


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him  that  we  have  that  information,  and  can  give  it  to  you  before 
you  leave  today. 
He  was  Eistounded  because  the  securities  world  was  unable  to 

S'  %  it  to  him  for  weeks  thereafter,  months  in  some  cases.  Yet  our 
mputerized  Trade  Reconfitruction — CTR — system  was  such  that 
we  were  able  to  give  it  to  him  within  days  after  the  occurrence. 

In  fact,  aa  I  au^eeted  today,  we  SLre  ready  with  a  reconstructed 
trade  re^ster  theday  after.  No  other  exchange  I  know  of  has  that 
capability  in  today's  world;  in  the  United  States  certainly. 

The  CHAiRBfAN.  Would  you  also  mention  briefly  your  computer- 
ized process,  your  GLOMEX  operation? 

Mr.  Melamed.  I  would.  What  we  recognized,  Mr.  Chairman,  was 
that  the  competition  that  we  face  with  the  Japanese  and  the  Euro- 
peans transcends  our  working  day.  Because,  you  know,  the  world 
has  now  shrunk  to  a  point  that  these  competitive  markets  are  ev- 
erywhere. People  do  not  wait  until  our  markets  open  the  next 
morning  to  trade,  to  do  their  hedging,  to  do  whatever  they  need. 

In  fact,  it  used  to  be  we  were  all  protected  with  a  geographical 
blanket  that  protected  our  markets  from  competition.  It  is  no 
longer  true.  So  we  decided  that  we  must  lesid  our  industry  to  create 
an  "after-hours"  system.  And  the  best  system  to  create,  we 
thought,  was  electronic  because  that  would  work  best  for  til  24 
hours,  the  16  hours  that  we  are  not  physically  open. 

We  went  to  the  largest  communications  organization  in  the 
world,  Reuters,  and  with  them  created  GIX)BEX,  an  "after-hours" 
transfiction  system  that  will  be  launched  sometime  later  this  year 
or  early  next  year.  For  the  first  time  in  history,  we  are  leading  the 
financial  service  world  to  a  24-hour  transaction  system.  And  I  must 
say,  everyone  has  followed  our  lead,  including  the  securities  world. 

I  notice  the  over-the-counter  industry  has  moved  in  the  same  di- 
rection.  The  security  options  industry  has  moved  in  the  same  direc- 
tion. But  it  was  our  exchange  that  led  the  way.  And  recently,  as 
you  know,  the  Chicago  Board  of  Trade  which  created  Uieir  own 
system  of  a  similar  nature  and  the  Chicago  Mercantile  Exchange 
have  entered  discussions  to  unify  those  two  systems  so  that  t(^&- 
er  we  could  present  to  the  world  a  coBt«fRcient  ^stem. 

The  Chairman.  Thank  you  veiy  much,  Mr.  Melamed,  and  let  me 
apolo&ze.  I  called  your  GIOBEX,  GLOMEX.  I  have  been  working 
on  the  Mexican  foreign  debt.  And  everything  has  been  "mex"  for 
the  last  couple  of  weeks. 

Mr.  Melamed.  I  did  not  even  notice  that. 

Mr.  English.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman. 

Mr.  Morrison. 

Mr.  M(HiiusoN.  Thfuik  you. 

The  capabilities  of  GLOBEX  are  exciting. 

Is  there  a  potential  that  it  sets  the  stage  for  the  incurBion  of 
fiilly  computerized  trading  on  into  your  normal  trading  dajr? 

Mr.  Melamed.  I  do  not  believe  that  that  is  likely  in  the  foreseea- 
ble future. 

We  have  yet  to  prove  to  what  extent  liquidity  can  be  generated 
on  a  computer.  We  do  not  know  that.  We  are  experimenting.  Now, 
if  you  ask  me  what  will  it  look  like  20  years  from  now,  I  do  not 
know.  But  in  the  foreseeable  future,  I  do  not  tiiink  so.  I  believe 
that  the  electronic  Gfystem  GLOBEX  and  AURORA,  that  we  hope  to 


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launch  in  the  near  future,  will  succeed  because  it  will  dmend  on 
EUid  key  off  the  liquidity  of  open  outcry  that  is  created  in  me  open 
outcry  fashion  during  our  trading  day. 

That  liquidity  will  work  as  the  engine  to  succeed  with  the  elec- 
tronic market  later. 

Mr.  MoEaisoN.  But  it  will  demonstrate  a  technology  that  if  and 
when  the  institution  is  ready  to  move  in  that  direction,  it  could  be 
utilized  as  even  a  replacement  for  the  current  human  involvement 
in  the  pits. 

Mr.  Melamko.  Theoretically.  That  is  speculative,  but  theoretical- 
ly you  are,  of  course,  correct.  I  merely  say  that  I  cannot  foresee 
uiat  in  a  foreseeable  timeframe. 

Mr.  Morrison.  It  would  be  interesting  to  see  how  the  institution 
responds.  I  think  your  approach  to  it  is  a  superb  combination. 

I  wanted  to  eisk  about  something  that  1  do  not  believe  anyone  has 
talked  dtiout  and  that  is  off  floor  trading.  It  is  not  included  in  our 
chairman's  bill,  and  yet  without  knowing  exactly  what  all  was  in- 
volved in  the  FBI  investigation,  maybe  a  part  of  what  th^  find 
that  reflects  some  problems  out  there. 

Could  you  just  give  us  an  overview  of  your  concerns  with  or  how 
off  floor  tradmg  could  be  controlled,  regulated,  restricted? 

Mr.  Meiamed.  Well,  we  clearly  do  not  know  what  the  invesUgar 
tion  will  show.  You  are  correct. 

As  a  matter  of  fact,  our  beet  advice  is  that  not  much  of  the  inves- 
tigation will  in  fact  indicate  a  lot  to  do  with  dual  trading.  I  mean, 
there  are  violations  involving  taxes  and  there  are  other  kinds  of 
customer  cheating  that  do  not  have  anything  to  do  with  dual  trad- 
ing. And  there  might  be  some  off  exchange  things  that  we  do  not 
know  about,  you  are  right. 

Off  exchait^e  has  always  been  a  problem  for  the  exchanges  be- 
cause we  have  no  authority.  In  fact,  some  years  back  we  went  to 
Congress,  and  t^ether,  as  you  may  recall,  worked  out  the  creation 
of  ue  National  Futures  Association.  The  NFA  is  the  authoritar  over 
(^-exchange  matters,  ordained  by  the  CFTC  to  help  the  CFTC  in 
such  areas  as  financial  monitoring  of  ofif-exchangfe  entities,  that  is 
entities  that  are  not  members  of  exchange. 

And  so  it  is  an  area  that  we  have  some  concern  with,  but  we 
have  no  authority  over.  The  National  Futures  Association  does  an 
extremely  good  job  in  monitoring  some  of  that  area.  And  the  CFTC 
has  to  do  the  rest. 

Mr.  MoRHiBON.  You  are  coniforteble  then  that  NFA  and  their 
working  relationship  with  the  CFTC  adequately  covers  that  area? 

Mr.  Melamed.  I  must  in  all  honesty  advise  you  that  I  am  biased, 
since  I  am  chairman  of  the  NFA.  Yes,  I  am  comfortable  and  I  be- 
lieve the  NFA  does  an  excellent  job,  but  it  is  very  self-serving  for 
me  to  s^  BO. 

Mr.  Morrison.  We  love  confidence  around  here.  It  is  a  product 
that  ia  all  too  often  in  excess  supply. 

The  Commodity  Futures  Trading  Commission  yesterday  sort  of 
got  beat  up  and  1  would  like  to,  even  though  my  time  is  up,  just 
ask  one  more  simple  question. 

Your  general  observation  working  relationships  between  the  ex- 
changes as  being  essentially  self-regulating  and  the  CFTC.  And  as 
we  go  through  this  process,  do  the  dynamics  need  to  be  changed? 


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Does  the  level  of  authority  need  to  be  changed?  More  of  an  editori- 
al type  question,  I  guess,  thfin  a  specific  one. 

Mr.  Mblamed.  In  our  workings  with  the  CFTC,  although  many  of 
our  members  et^oy  when  a  Federsil  Eigency  gets  beat  up  and  ap- 
plaud when  that  happens,  I  must  say  that  we,  as  leaders  of  the  ex- 
change, have  found  the  CFTC  to  be  an  exemplary  agency.  It  is  run 
extremely  well  and  does  a  very  very  efficient  job. 

As  a  matter  of  fact,  we  have  a  direct  comparison  that  many  of 
our  members  do  not  because  we  deal  with  many  Federal  agencies, 
not  just  the  CFTC.  And  in  almost  every  instance,  I  would  say  that 
tJie  CFTC  comes  out  with  higher  marks  than  do  other  comparable 
Federfd  agencies.  Our  experience  has  been  just  the  opposite.  We 
find  the  CFTC  to  be  very  professional. 

As  a  matter  of  fact,  we  are,  as  you  know,  strongly  in  favor  of  per- 
manent reauthorization  for  the  CFTC.  I  believe  the  bill  that  the 
chairman  introduced  also  includes  that  provision,  which  we  sup- 
port. 

Mr.  Morrison.  Thank  you  very  much. 

Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman. 

Mr.  English.  Mr.  Grandy. 

Mr.  Grandy.  No  questions. 

Mr.  English.  Leo,  I  have  some  additionsil  questions  and  I  think 
probably  some  of  the  other  members  will  too. 

I  want  to  ask  you  to  put  on  the  hat  that  you  were  wearing  on 
April  19  when  you  signed  the  report.  With  r^ard  to  the  provisions 
dealing  with  dufd  trading,  I  noticed  in  there  uiat  it  bans  dual  trad- 
ing in  fill  contract  months  that  reach  the  level  of  mature  liquidity. 

I  suppose  the  question  comes  in,  and  this  would  be  determined  by 
the  b<^rd  of  governors  and  based  on  market  conditions  and  80  on. 
What  is  the  definition  by  yourself  of  mature  liquidity? 

Mr.  Melamed.  Well,  we  use  those  words  because  there  is  no  ob- 
jective way  in  which  to  measure  a  mature  liquid  contriict.  We  used 
them  and  indicated  that  it  was  up  to  the  CME's  board  of  governors. 
This  specifd  committee,  in  its  report,  stated  that  the  only  way  it 
could  make  that  judgment  and  feel  comfortable  about  it  is  if  they 
allowed  the  market  experts  to  make  a  determination  on  a  case-by- 
case  basis  which  market  is  sufficiently  mature  and  liquid  to  widi- 
stand  the  hit  it  might  get  by  losing  some  dual  trading  liquidity. 

The  special  committee  used  the  words  mature  liquidity  with  the 
xmderstanding  that  you  could  not  say  catogorically  which  number 
is  right  and  which  number  is  wrong.  And  they  allowed  the  board  to 
make  a  determination  market  by  market,  in  fact,  contriict  month 
by  contract  month.  That  was  their  idea  and  that  is  how  they  pro- 
ceeded. 

Mr.  English.  And  that  basically  is  the  provisions  under  the  bill. 
The  bill  sets  a  certain  number.  It  provides  and  allows  for  the  ex- 
changes to  come  before  the  CFTC.  The  CFTC  instead  of  the  board 
of  governors  then  would  be  the  one  that  would  make  that  determi- 
nation. So  they  are  very  similar  in  that  manner  as  far  ea  where 
the  determination  would  ultimately  end  up,  the  CFTC  on  one  hand, 
the  boEU*d  of  governors  of  the  exchange  on  Uie  other. 

Mr.  Melamed.  We  have  no  quarrel  with  the  goal,  eis  we  have 
talked  before,  of  your  bill.  Our  difference  is  simpo'  that  we  do  not 
believe  that  an  absolute  number  is  the  way  to  approach  this,  be- 


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cause  we  fear  that  and  we  do  not  feel  that  it  is  goiiig  to  work  in  a 
practical  way,  that  the  CFTC  will  act  in  a  timely  maniiM'. 

It  might  very  well  be,  with  all  due  respect  to  the  CFTC.  that  Qm 
will  not  act  in  a  timely  manner,  because  the  system  does  not  work 
that  way.  By  the  time  the  illiquidity  that  has  developed  around  a 
given  market  has  hurt  that  market,  it  is  too  late  to  change  the  re- 
qtiirement.  If  we  lower  the  requirement  from  7,000  to  1,000  and  the 
market  is  already  hurt  by  it,  you  cannot  bring  a  market  back 
quickly. 

And  so,  Eis  in  many  things  that  are  very  sensitive,  we  feel  you 
cannot  wade  through  a  process  that  is,  by  its  own  nature,  bureau- 
cratic and  will  not  work  as  kindly  as  is  necessary.  We  do  not  want 
to  take  that  chance. 

Mr.  Enqush.  But  the  point  that  we  come  down  to  though  on  the 
issue  of  liquidity  in  discussing  it  with  some  of  your  members  as 
well  as  members  from  the  other  exchanges,  it  is  my  understanding 
within  the  industry  generally  perceived  when  a  contract  hits  the 
level  of  5,000  a  day,  it  is  generally  considered  to  be  mature  liquid 
contracts.  Is  that  not  true? 

Mr.  Melamed.  I  do  not  know  that — I  mean,  these  are  opiniims 
other  than  mine,  but  I  do  not  know  that  there  is  such  a  number 
that  we  could  say.  I  know  that  some  small  markets  are  adequately 
liquid  at  5,000  and  some  are  not;  some  are  not  liquid  at  20,0W.  It  is 
a  question  of  whether  the  order  flow  is  constant  or  at  least  is  con- 
sistent every  day  or  every  month  during  the  course  of  the  year. 

Mr.  English.  But  the  basic  issue  that  we  are  tolhing  about  here 
though  comes  down  to  the  question  as  to  whether  it  would  be,  as 
the  proposal  was  originally  intended,  whether  it  would  be  the 
board  of  governors  of  the  exchange  or  whether  it  would  be  up  to 
the  CFTC  to  determine  whether  a  particular  contract  is  a  mature 
liquid  contract  or  not.  Is  that  not  true? 

Mr.  Melabied.  You  will  note  that  when  our  internal  committee 
suggested  a  90  percent  verifiability  threshold  instead  of  mature 
liquid,  the  special  committee  to  which  you  are  referring,  unani- 
mously accepted  that  as  an  adequate  alternative  to  its  own  pn^xw- 
al.  They  recognized  that  there  is  so  delicate  a  balance  between 
trying  to  correct  the  perceived  wrong  and  the  loss  of  liquidity  tlut 
one  cannot  be  so  absolute.  They  felt  that  the  90  percent  ven&dnl- 
ity  approach  was  as  good  and  perhaps  better. 

Mr.  English.  It  is  my  understan(Ung  though  that  the  recommen- 
dation that  you  and  the  special  committee  made  to  the  member^ 
ship  met  with  a  very  strong  rejection,  opposition  by  the  memb^ 
ship  to  those  particular  proposals.  And  that  these  were  drafted  in 
place  of  those  as  a  response  to  that  strong  opposition.  Is  that  not 
true? 

Mr.  Melamed.  There  were  vocal  objections,  of  course.  There  was 
a  segment  that  does  not  wemt  any  restriction  on  dual  trading,  of 
course.  But  I  do  not  know  that  was  the  vast  majority. 

The  internal  committee  that  wrote  the  substitute  alternative  and 
presented  it  to  the  special  committee,  was  composed  of  people  that 
clearly  understood  the  problem.  And  no  one  pressured  the  special 
committee  to  agree  that  what  the  internal  committee  sufS^iBted 
was  in  every  way  as  good  as  their  own  proposal. 


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I  do  not  believe  it  was  in  response  to  any  nu^or  objections  from 
our  floor.  There  were  some  that  objected,  of  course.  There  are  ob- 
jectors in  every  society  or  socifd  structure.  But  that  was  not  a  pres- 
sure that  our  internal  committee  bowed  to. 

Mr.  English.  Mr.  Coleman. 

Mr.  Coleman.  It  has  happened  not  just  today  but  yesterday  also 
that  we  continually  forget  about  the  exemptions,  exclusions,  oppor- 
tunities for  flexibility  both  written  in  the  bill  and  in  your  proposal. 

We  talk  in  stark  contrast.  We  are  either  for  dual  trading  or  we 
are  against  dual  trading.  Dual  trading  is  going  to  dry  up  the  mar- 
kets or  it  is  not  going  to  drive  things  off-shore.  We  cannot  talk  in 
terms  of  black  and  white,  because  your  own  proposal  prohibits  dual 
trading.  If  I  wanted  to  stop  at  that,  it  would  be  a  rather  unfair 
characterization. 

I  think  it  is  very  unfair  for  people  to  suggest  that  the  bill  prohib- 
its dual  trading  and  stop  at  that,  because  we  provide  opportunities 
to  exempt  exchanges  from  the  prohibition,  zmd  you  have  addressed 
those  in  your  written  testimony. 

At  the  same  time  you  prohibit  duEil  trsiding  if  a  market  does  not 
come  up  with  a  90  percent  standard. 

Mr.  Martinez.  That's  right. 

Mr.  CoLEHAN.  So  let's  all  be  a  little  more  forthcoming  in  how  we 
discuss  these  issues.  What  is  it  that  we  do  not  have  in  our  bill 
other  than  "any  and  aH"  and  the  100  percent  verifiability — which 
is  your  interpretation,  and  we  understand  that?  Is  it  that  we  do  not 
provide  enough  flexibility  to  the  Commission  to  deal  with  certain 
problems?  Your  own  proposal  provides  for  the  same  exemptions, 
written  authorization  of  the  dual  trade,  for  example.  We  have  the 
spreELd  issue.  We  have  tried  to  address  that.  Do  you  have  that? 

What  is  it  that  is  di^ereot  about  the  two  proposals  other  than 
that  we  have  a  standard  which  is  higher — but  which  could  be  modi- 
fied. We  are  open  to  suggestions  and  modifications  of  some  sort. 

Is  there  really  any  substantial  difference,  Leo,  in  what  we  are 
sayii^  Other  than  the  degree,  I  guess,  you  are  at  90,  you  may 
think  we  are  at  100. 

Mr.  Melamed.  Well,  other  than  the  degree,  of  course.  The  ap- 
proach is  different  because  ours  is  based  on  a  90  percent  verifiabu- 
ity  of  timii^  of  trades,  and  the  proposal  of  the  bill  is  based  on  a 
volimie  statistic.  The  volume  statistic  in  itself  is  an  arbitrary 
number. 

Mr.  Coleman.  As  a  threshold,  but  also  it  can  be  amended  by  the 
Commission  itself.  They  could  set  it  at  300,000  contracts,  and  every- 
body would  be 

Mr.  Melameu.  I  doubt  if  they  would  because  that  is  the  point. 
The  Commission  is  not  going  to  change  the  will  of  the  Congress, 
nor  should  it  easily.  You  would  not  want  that  and  I  would  not 
want  that.  It  would  be  a  difficult  process  for  the  Commission  to 
ignore  the  suggested  requirement  of  Congress.  It  always  is  a  diffi- 
cult proposition. 

So  in  the  kind  of  give  and  take  that  happens  after  such  a  bill 
that  has  a  number  in  it  becomes  law,  it  becomes  almost  near  im- 
possible to  change  the  number.  By  ^e  time  the  number  is  changed, 
a  given  market  has  suffered  and  it  will  be  too  late  to  save. 


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Mr.  Coi^kiAN.  In  all  due  respect,  if  we  were  to  take  your  lan- 
guage and  draft  it  into  legislation,  the  90  percent  would  be  put  into 
law,  EUid  you  would  have  the  same  impact,  if  a  contract  could  not 
reach  that.  True? 

Mr.  Melamsd.  Yes,  but  it  is  not  based  on  a  volume  statistic.  It's 
based  on  a  statistic  of  verifiability  of  all  the  trades  that  occur. 

liiere's  one  more  element  that  our  attorney  would  like  to  men- 
tion. If  I  could  ask  him  to  with  respect  to  the  bill  that  I  have  not 
touched  on. 

Mr.  Salzman.  If  1  could,  I  hope  this  isn't  too  technical,  but  some 
of  the  exemptions  are  slightly  troublesome,  especially  tiie  one  on 
brokers  who  make  errors.  The  bill  seems  to  say  that  a  broker  who 
makes  an  error  must  wait  until  the  next  morning's  opening  to 
trade  out  of  his  error.  The  people  we've  talked  to  at  the  excbaogB 
have  said  that  it  will  make  it  utterly  impossible  to  act  as  a  broker 
because  the  range  of  costs  that  could  be  involved  in  that  are  just  so 
enormous. 

Everybody  at  our  exchange,  at  least — everybody  I've  ever  talked 
to— agrees  that  a  broker  must  be  free  to  trade  out  of  his  error  im- 
mediately, otherwise  the  cost  of  brokerage,  which  is  now  between 
$.75  and  S1.50  or  $1.75  either  has  to  go  to  an  infinite  level  or  these 
people  will  not  act  as  brokers.  There  is  just  not  enough  money  in  it 
to  take  those  kinds  of  risks.  They  are  taking  |100,000  risks  for  $20. 

Mr.  Coleman.  These  are  types  of  things  which  obvious^  can  be 
addressed  and  modified,  and  we  respect  and  want  and  seek  your  ex- 
pertise along  these  lines.  So  I  think  we  are  getting  into  some,  as 
you  say,  if  not  technical,  at  least  some  side-stream  issues,  and  I 
want  to  pursue  a  couple  of  the  mainstream  issues  here,  if  I  mi^^ 

This  Bu^estion  that  we  are  going  to  force  things  ofbhore  is  a 
real  easy  one.  We  heard  that  in  1986,  in  all  due  respect,  in  the  last 
reauthorization.  It  has  not  necessarily  occurred. 

The  analogies  to  the  securities  markets,  if  we  did  not  have  an  inr 
sider  trading  violation  of  law,  there  would  be  some  who  would  s^, 
"If  we  have  such  a  law  £^ainst  insider  trading,  we  might  be  driving 
all  the  securities  offshore."  I  do  not  think  anybody  wants  to  elimi- 
nate that  s^ment  of  securities  law  because  somehow  To^o  or 
Taiwan  or  somebody  might  open  up  a  market  and  allow  inrider 
trading. 

We  need  to  have  the  saf^aurds  here,  not  just  because  we  are 
airaid  of  competition,  that  somebody  else  will  have  less  safeguards, 
as  long  as  we  do  not  destroy  our  markets.  So  all  this  driving  off' 
^ore  Dusiness  is  an  easy  ai^ument  which  is  difficult  to  suggest 
that  the  answer  is  going  to  be  more  suspicion  of  our  marketsTleeB 
things  nailed  down,  more  perception  problems  that  somehow  this  is 
going  to  attract  business. 

Mr.  Melamed.  May  I  respond  to  the  issue  of  ofiishore  competi- 
tion? 

Mr.  Coleman.  Sure. 

Mr.  Melamed.  That  is  not  simply  an  imagined  issue.  I  agree  with 
you  that  we  want  to  have  markets  with  integrity.  Clearly,  you  are 
right  about  that,  but  unmistakably  the  issue  of  offshore  competi- 
tion is  vety  serious. 

From  100  percent  of  futures  market  share,  in  the  last  several 
years,  we  have  gone  to  65  percent.  If  the  auto  industry  or  the  mi- 


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crochip  industry  are  examples  of  what  the  Japanese  can  do  to  our 
market  share,  those  are  serious  competitive  factors  that  we  £is 
Americans  must  understand  Euid  be  very  careflU  with.  While  I  do 
agree  with  you  entirely  that  our  markets  must  maintain  integrity, 
we  cannot  afford  to  ignore  the  competitive  issues  that  foreign  mai^ 
kete  do  represent. 

Mr.  CoLEBiiAN.  Have  you  seen  any  pull  away  in  our  T-bill  mar- 
kets by  the  Japanese? 

Mr.  Melamed.  Which  market? 

Mr.  CoLXUAN.  Treasury  or  other  credit  markets? 

Mr.  Melahed.  Absolutely. 

Mr.  Coleman.  Would  some  of  that  be  as  a  result  of  what,  what 


Mr.  Melambd.  The  Japanese  created  markets  that  attract  the 
business  we  invented  and  are  taking  that  business  from  us.  That's 
true  in  U.S.  bonds,  in  Eurodollars,  and  they  are  now  attemptii^  to 
do  80  in  currencies. 

Mr.  Coleman.  But  it  has  not  been  because  of  anythii^  that  we 
have  slapped  on  from  this  committee  or  the  high  confidence  that 
you  have  voiced  in  the  Commission,  has  it? 

Mr.  Melamed.  On  the  contrary.  Your  committee  has  thus  far 
been  very  supportive  and  in  full  understanding  of  the  value  of  this 
industry.  What  we  are  simply  afraid  of  is  a  change  in  direction. 

Mr.  Coleman.  Let  me  ask  one  or  two  other  questions,  if  I  might 
The  issue  of  front  nmning,  Leo,  hfis  been  brought  up.  Front  run- 
ning today  is  a  violation  of  law  because  it  is  fraud.  Is  that  not  the 
case? 

Mr.  Melamed.  That's  ri^t. 

Mr.  Coleman.  So  there  should  not  be  any  question  that  it  is  al- 
ready a  violation  or  a  wroi^  that  is  being  looked  for  by  the  ex- 
changes and  by  the  Commission. 

Mr.  Melamed.  That's  correct. 

Mr.  CoLEiifAN.  One  final  question  about  dual  trading  in  the  audit 
trail.  With  GLOBEX  going  to  a  computerized  trading  system,  you 
have  in  fact  constructed  something  that  would  change  the  terms  of 
our  bill.  Correct? 

Mr.  Melamed.  On  the  contrary 

Mr.  Coleman.  Is  100  percent  verifiable? 

Mr.  Melamed.  Yes,  but  in  one  respect,  Mr.  Coleman.  It  isn't  pos- 
sible to  live  within  ^le  bill  because  on  the  computer  there  should 
be  no  ban  on  the  dual  trader  at  fill. 

Mr.  Coleman.  That  is  correct  because  he  would  be  found  out. 

Mr.  Melamed.  Yes,  it's  100  percent  verifiable. 

Mr.  Coleman.  That  is  what  we  are  saying. 

Mr.  Melamed.  Exactly,  so  that  your  bill  would  not  fit  the  com- 
puter world  at  all  because  we  shouldn't  have  any  7,000  or  any  re- 
quirement. 

Mr.  Coleman.  You  would  have  met  the  exemptions,  and  the  dual 
trading  would  occur  as  you  directly  state.  The  problem  with  the 
dual  trader  is  if  you  traded  ahead,  he  would  be  found  out  because 
you  had  a  system  set  up  already. 

Mr.  Melamed.  My  suggestion  only  is  this:  In  your  bUl  you  might 
wfmt  to  adjust  the  language  that  shows  the  difference  between  a 


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computer-generated  environment  and  a  floor  open  outcry  environ- 
ment, if  I  might  suggest  that 

Mr.  Coleman.  That  is  indeed  the  question,  isn't  it,  open  outciT? 

Let  me  aak  you  a  completely  different  question.  We  had  some 
testimony  yesterday  about  basically  the  Clunese  wall.  In  the  con- 
struction of  the  Chinese  wall  with  a  large  broker  like  Merrill 
Lynch  trading  for  its  own  account  and  trading  for  customers,  could 
you  tell  us  a  little  about  how  you  look  at  that  Chinese  wall?  You  at 
the  exchange  have  the  power  to  audit  those  now,  correct? 

Mr.  MsLAHED.  Yes. 

Mr.  Coleman.  And  any  problems — have  you  seen  any  problems 
with  the  breakdown  of  that  Chinese  wall,  and  would  you  explain 
what  that  is  for  the  record? 

Mr.  Melamed.  Could  I  ask  our  attorney  to  try  this  one? 

Mr.  Coleman.  Yes. 

Mr.  Salzman.  We  absolutely  understand  the  problem,  and  we 
have  now  created  a  surveillance  tool,  a  computerized  surveillance 
tool  to  deal  with  it.  We  search  the  mfirket  for  large  price  move- 
ments in  short  periods  of  time,  and  then  look  for  aU  orders  entered 
just  before  and  after  those  moves,  then  we  can  trace  those  orders 
back  upstairs  as  well  as  the  floor. 

So  given  that  tool,  which  our  compliance  people  have  now  cre- 
ated and  which  will  be  put  into  effect  very  shortly,  we  believe  will 
be  competent  to  deal  with  upstairs  abuses  as  well  as  floor  abuses  of 
dual  trading  or  trading  ahead  of  customers.  It's  a  pretty  smart 
idea,  I  think,  and  it  works  because  we  have  the  CTR  system  operat- 
ing at  this  point.  

Mr.  Coleman.  And  the  CFTC  has  not  found  any  problems  in  re- 
viewing your  audit.     

Mr.  Salzman.  The  CFTC  finds  problems  every  time  they  review 
us.  It's  part  of  their  job.  They  give  us  a  list  of  8  or  10  correctionB 
every  oUier  year,  and  they  come  back  1  year  later  to  make  sure  we 
have  implemented  them.  We  know  that  no  matter  what  we  do, 
they  are  going  to  find  8  or  10  things  we  have  to  correct  l^e  next 
year,  and  we  expect  it.  It  all  helps  build  Leo's  confidence. 

Mr.  Melamed.  That's  correct. 

Mr.  Eh4GLiSH.  Mr.  Tallon. 

Mr.  Tallon.  Mr.  Chairman,  thank  you.  Anybody  that  wanted  to 
use  a  broker  that  was  not  a  dual  trader  they  could  certainly  have 
an  opportunity  to  use  a  broker  that  was  not  a  dual  trader  or  used 
the  Globex  system  which  is  a  fiilly  automated  system.  Is  that  not 
true? 

Mr.  Melamed.  That's  true.  In  the  present  world,  any  customer 
can  direct  his  orders  to  a  nondual  trader  if  that's  what  he  chooses. 

Mr.  Tallon.  Ms.  Long  was  asking  some  very  good  questions 
about  stebility  and  liquidity  and  its  impact  and  efiiect  on  stability, 
and  I  think  your  very  good  answer  was  that  liquidity  created  sta- 
bility in  the  mfirkete.  In  the  l^islation  that  we  have  before  us  in 
trying  to  define  or  determine  a  mature  liquid  contract  with  the 
7,000  volume  traded  dfdly,  would  it  be  better  in  trying  to  define  a 
.  mature  liquid  contract  if  that  was  a  course  that  this  committee  is 
going  to  go  to — think  about  the  bid-etsk  spread  on  any  contract 
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Mr.  Melamed.  There  is  no  shorthand  rule  I  know  of  for  deter- 
mining mature  liquid.  That's  a  hands-on  kind  of  approach,  feeling 
the  market,  seeing  the  kind  of  bids  and  offers  the  market  gets  on  a 
daily  basis  over  weeks  and  months  by  the  people  on  the  floor  and 
in  the  business  and  in  the  commercifu  area  of  activity. 

I  don't  know  of  any  rules  that  can  tell  you  bid-ask  or  otherwise. 

Mr.  Tallon.  And  again,  I  was  not  thinking  about  any  strict 
rules,  but  we  have  not  really — for  exemptions  that  Mr,  doleman 
talks  about  in  the  bill — we  have  not  talked  about  the  CFTC  and  li- 
quidity period,  but  if  we  are  talking  about  liquidity  somehow  I 
think  we  have  to  look  at  the  bid-ask  spread  rather  than  an  arbi- 
tral 7,000  contracts  traded  daily. 

IV^.  Melamed.  Well,  you're  clearly  right  that  the  bid-ask  spread 
is  an  indicator  of  liouituty.  A  spread  that  is  consistently  small  be- 
tween the  bid  and  offer  is  indicative  of  a  much  more  liquid  market 
than  is  one  that  has  a  very  big  spread  between  the  bid  and  o£fer. 
'That  was  part  of  the  Emswer  that  I  gave  Ms.  Long  in  barms  of  price 
gaps. 

A  large  spread  between  the  bid  and  offer  will  create  large  gaps  of 
trade  between  a  price  and  the  next  price,  and  is  indicative  of  a  less 
liquid  market 

Mr.  Tallon.  And  a  less  mature  liquid  contract. 

Mr.  Melamed.  Exactly. 

Mr.  Tallon.  So,  certainly  that  might  be  a  way  to  determine  li- 
quidity in  a  contract  on  any  exchange,  in  my  mind,  if  that  had  to 
be  done  by  the  CFTC  to  form  what  exemptions  would  be  applicable. 

Bill,  how  many  traders  on  the  Mercantile  Exchange  has  the  Jus- 
tice  Department  ever  prosecuted  specifically  for  trading  ahead  of  a 
customer? 

Mr.  Brodsky.  None  to  my  knowledge,  Mr.  Tallon. 

Mr.  Tallon.  BUt,  if  criminal  penalties,  msmdated  criminal  penal- 
ties were  written  into  this  legislation  for  traders  that  were  trading 
ahead,  what  kind  of  impact  do  you  think  it  would  have  on  people 
that  are  involved  with  dual  trading?  Would  you  want  to  comment 
on  that  because  that  is  certainly  something  that  I  have  an  interest 
in  and  we  have  discussed? 

Mr.  Brodsky.  Our  view  generally  is  that  there  is  certain  conduct 
right  now  that  is  violative  not  only  of  our  rules  but  of  Federal  law, 
emd  I  don't  think  that  there  is  any  need  to  do  anything  further.  My 
counsel  might  be  able  to  add  to  that,  but  I  believe  that  our  own 
enforcement  prc^am  plus  the  oversight  of  the  CFTC  has  had  a 
very  important  prophylactic  effect  over  the  last  severfil  years  to 
deter  this  type  of  conduct. 

Mr.  Salzman.  I  can  only  say  that  I  saw  the  Justice  Depeirtment's 
reaction  to  the  proposal.  I  know  they  are  very  nervous  for  fear  that 
somebody  will  interpret  the  change  in  law  as  if  the  previous  boss 
said  there  was  no  penalty.  We  have  been  cooperating  as  fully  as  we 
can  with  the  Justice  Department,  and  we  don't  want  to  support 
anything  that  they  are  against  in  this  matter.  I  think  we  have  to 
leave  it  at  that  even  though  we  understand  what  you're  trying  to 
do  and  why  it's  important. 

Mr.  Tallon.  And  yet,  the  Justice  Department  has  never  brought 
criminal  charges  against  anybody  for  trading  ahead  of  a  customer, 
and  certainly  if  1  were  a  dual  trader,  which  I  think  can  be  very 


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beneficial  that  to  provide  liquidity  and  eflicienQr  to  these  markets, 
I  do  not  think  tiiat  I  am  going  to  think  about  uie — I  am  not  going 
to  give  much  thou{^t  at  all  to  the  illegal  practice  of  front  running 
if  that  is  a  part  of  this  legislation.  That  would  be  my  view  anyway. 
I  do  not  know  I  would  want  to  deal  with  trade  anymore. 

Thank  you. 

Mr.  English.  Ms.  Long. 

Ms.  Long.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman.  I  would  just  simply  like  to 
make  the  statement  that  right  before  a  market  crash  you  have  a 
high  level  of  liquidity  usually  due  to  a  high  d^^ee  of  speculation, 
and  what  we  really  need  to  fmd  in  this  legislation,  what  we  are 
willing  to  do  in  this  legislation  is  work  toward  r^ulations  that 
keep  Uquidity  at  a  healthy  level  and  speculation  at  a  healtli^  level. 

Tiiankyou. 

Mr.  Engush.  Mr.  Grandy. 

Mr.  Grandy.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman.  I  apologize  to  the  cma- 
mittee  for  being  tardy  this  morning. 

Mr.  Melamed,  1  wanted  to  ask  you  your  opinion  of  8omethinf[.  I 
have  looked  at  your  testimony  briefly  and  hoped  to  have  some  tune 
to  ask  you  about  some  of  the  things  in  it.  But  a  couple  of  df^  ago. 
Chairman  Gramm  was  before  us,  and  I  asked  her  a  question  that 
related  to  insider  tradii^,  and  I  asked  her  for  her  definition  of  it  as 
it  relates  to  the  commodity  exchanges.  The  definition,  at  least  to 
this  member,  was  not  intelugible. 

Can  you  tell  me  what  insider  trading  is  in  your  exchange  and 
how  do  you  police  it? 

Mr.  Melamed.  Well,  insider  trading  in  the  clfissic  sense  heia  to  do 
with,  say,  knowledge  of  a  corporate  report  by  someone  within  a  cor- 
poration knowing  the  dividend  report  or  how  the  coir^any  is  doing 
or  some  special  product  that  might  be  coming  out.  Those  are  the 
classic  cases  of  insider  trading. 

None  of  those  exist  in  futures  market  because  the  product  that  is 
being  traded  is  not  corporate-owned.  The  product  that  is  b^ng 
traded  is  everybody's  product.  Everybody  knows  the  specifications 
of  the  product.  These  specifications  don't  change.  Everybody  knows 
what  it  is  that  is  beii^  traded. 

The  onlv  kind  of  insider  trading  that  occurs  in  terms  of  futures 
markets  that  come  to  mind  is,  for  instance,  the  broker  who  has  an 
order  in  his  hand  from  a  customer.  The  broker  knows  what  that 
order  is,  and  then  deals  for  his  own  account  because  he  understood 
what  that  order  from  his  customer  might  be.  He  has  some  roedal 
information  that  nobody  else  has.  We  are  very  mindful  of,  and  very 
concerned  about  that  kmd  of  thing. 

But  the  other  kind  of  insider  trading  that  might  oa;ur  is  if  there 
is  a  Federal  report  about  a  market,  such  as  a  market  report  on  the 
trade  gap  or  something  from  the  Labor  Department  on  emplqy^ 
ment  figures,  or  a  cattle  report  that  might  be  coming  out.  A  Gov- 
ernment employee  might  have  that  information  beforehand,  and 
use  that  information  to  his  own  advantfige,  sometimes  in  conjimc- 
tion,  say,  with  a  broker.  That  would  be  the  same  kind  of  umae  in- 
formation you  are  talking  about. 

Mr.  Grandy.  And  how  do  you  prevent  that? 

Mr.  Melamed.  We  prevent  that,  first  of  all,  by  having  a  strong 
surveillance  force  that  is  cognizant  of  this  kind  of  thing,  especial^ 


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the  first  example  I  used  of  the  trading  ahead  of  the  customer  order. 
We  obviously  have  the  ability  to  look  at  a  brdcer's  own  personal 
account  to  determine  every  trade  he  ever  made  in  a  given  day,  and 
compeire  it  to  when  he  received  orders  from  a  customer,  and  wheth- 
er they  were  close  in  line  or  not. 

Mr.  Grandy.  Well,  let  me  Eisk  you  this.  Several  years  ago,  our 
colleague  Neal  Smith  introduced  a  bill,  which  never  became  law,  to 
prevent  insider  trading,  and  it  reads  as  follows,  and  I  would  just 
like  you  to  comment  on  whether  or  not  insider  trading  could  be 
banned  statutorily. 

Basically  he  is  amending  the  Commodity  Ebichange  Act  to  say: 

Aa  used  in  this  fiubeection,  "insider"  means  any  individual  who  has  accesB  to  ma- 
terial information  not  generally  available  to  the  public  about  preaent  or  anticipated 
cash  or  futures  trading  or  present  or  anticipated  cash  or  futures  podtiona  for  which 
such  individual  is  not  a  party  in  any  commodity  of  any  other  persons  where  such 
trading  or  positions  are  in  amounts  at  or  above  Commission  designated  reporting 
levels  as  specified  pursuant  to  section  4(i)  of  this  act 

No  insider  ahall  own,  control,  have  a  beneficial  interest  in  or  enter  into  any  con- 
tract or  contract  for  future  delivery  in  any  such  commodity  on  any  contract  market. 

What  is  the  problem  with  that  language? 

Mr.  Meiamed.  Well,  the  problem  wi&  that  language  is  that  it 
doesn't  attack  the  examples  I  gave  you.  What  Representative 
Smith  has  a  problem  with  is  that,  for  example,  a  grain  company 
knows  it  will  be  selling  grtiin  to  a  foreign  body  and  puts  on  posi- 
tions  to  protect  itself  with  respect  to  those  sales.  Under  the  bill,  the 
grain  company  would  not  be  allowed  to  hedge  and  protect  itself. 

This  is  true  in  cattle  or  in  hogs  or  in  other  commodities.  These 
major  commercials  are  using  the  special  inside  information  they 
have  because  they  have  done  the  sale,  and  our  markets  are  exactly 
for  them  to  use  under  those  very  circumstances.  They  ought  to  be 
hedging  their  forward  needs  in  our  market,  and  using  that  infor- 
mation to  their  own  advantage,  because  the  advantage  for  them  ia 
that  they  can  continue  to  make  these  sales. 

The  bill  would  prevent,  in  fact,  the  function  that  is  very  impor- 
tant  of  our  meurket. 

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lows:] 

The  bill  would  interfere  with  the  effective  operation  of  futures  markets  to  the 
overall  harm  of  farmers  and  commercial  market  users.  It  would  discourage  everjr 
professional  market  user  from  seeking  the  infbrmation  necessary  to  allow  the 
market  to  fairly  discover  the  appropriate  price. 

Considerable  information  about  supply  and  demand  in  the  marketplace  is  discov- 
ered by  the  legitimate  observation  of  buyers  and  sellers.  The  Smith  bill  would  de- 
stroy any  incentive  to  acquire  this  information,  to  the  extreme  detriment  of  the 
market. 

Mr.  Grandy.  I  understand  that,  I  believe,  to  a  point,  but  do  I 
hear  you  say  that  this  amendment,  this  bill  that  iAi.  Smith  intro- 
duced, I  thmk,  6  years  ago,  would  basically  outlaw  hedging  for 
large  compeuiies? 

Mr.  Melamed.  That's  right. 

Mr.  Geandy.  What  about  the  small  investor,  what  about  the 
small  trader  who  would  not  have  access  to  this  information?  Does 
this  prohibit  him  or  does  this  in  any  sense  give  him  a  more  even 
position  with  his  larger  counterparts? 


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Mr.  Melamkd.  The  theory  of  markets — and  we  live  within  that 
theory — is  that  the  price  structure  of  the  market,  the  movement 
itself,  is  indicative  of  what's  going  on  in  the  market.  Large  com- 
mercial buying  obviously,  or  selling,  puts  a  market  up  or  down,  and 
the  small  investor  has  to  have  some  understanding  why  it  is  going 
up. 

The  information  generally  is  available.  It  is  very  seldom  that  you 
don't  know  after  a  period  of  1  or  2  days  who  has  been  buying  and 
who  has  been  selling  as  to  why  the  market  went  up,  and  then  you 
can  make  certain  assumptions  eis  to  why  that  commercial  activity 
went  on,  and  iisually  those  assumptions  are  correct. 

So  that  I  think  the  small  investor  is  generally  not  so  at  the 
mercy  of  not  having  the  information  because  he  has  the  informa- 
tion of  price  movement. 

Mr.  Geandy.  I  see  my  time  has  expired,  so  I  will  not  belabor  this. 
I  understand  the  small  investor  has  the  information  on  price  move- 
ment, but  usually  after  it  is  too  late,  and  I,  of  course,  am  referring 
to  some  of  the  problems  that  happened  in  the  bean  market  last 
week  which  had  a  very  significant  impact  out  in  my  area. 

Mr.  Chairman,  thai^  you. 

Mr.  EInglish.  Mr.  Nagle. 

Mr.  Nagle.  The  proposals  with  r^ard  to  the  disciplinary  com- 
mittee seems  to  have  drawn  the  ire  and  hostility  of  most  of  the  ex- 
changes, but  we  have  not  really  spent  a  lot  of  time  talking  about  it 
in  here. 

Could  you  elaborate  a  little  bit  on  what  your  specific  objectionB 
fu%  to  the  committee  draft  with  regard  to  the  disciplinary  commit- 
tee composition? 

Mr.  Melambd.  Oiu-  special  committee,  of  which  I  was  a  member 
and  Mr.  Brodsky  was  a  member,  made  the  original  suggestion  that 
there  should  be  an  outside  member  with  voting  privileges  on  the 
m^jor  exchange  disciplinary  committees  which  will  address  iiiB 
perception  of  clubbiness  and  closed  room  kind  of  decisionmaking. 
We  want  to  open  up  the  process  and  show  the  world  that  indeed  we 
are  not  afraid  of  an  outsider  being  present. 

We  have  no  objection  with  your  recommendation  in  terma  of  the 
committee  structure. 

Mr.  Salzman.  The  only  real  problem — maybe  it  is  a  lack  of  un- 
derstanding on  our  part — is  the  suggestion  in  the  bill  that  the  com- 
mittee not  have  a  mc^ority  of  people  on  it  who  are  in  the  same 
class  of  trader  or  same  cleiss  of  person  as  the  person  being  tried. 
Nobody  at  the  Merc  really  understood  why  that  was  necessary,  aiul 
we  found  that  it  would  be  counterproductive. 

Our  clearing  house  committee,  which  disciplines  clearing  mem- 
bers, is  made  up  of  other  clearing  members  because  they  are  the 
ones  who  understand  the  clearing  operation.  There  hiss  never 
really  been  a  sense  that  we  were  aweire  of  that  anybody  felt  that 
that  was  unfair  or  operated  badly.  Moreover,  our  committee  that 
punishes  floor  traders  for  trading  abuses  is  metde  up  of  other  floor 
traders,  and  generally  they  are  the  ones  most  eager  to  punish  the 
offending  floor  trader.  There  hasn't  been  any  complaint  about  that. 

Mr.  Melamed.  I  didn't  know  you  were  rraerring  to  the  composi- 
tion in  terms  of  peers.  The  peers  are  the  ones  that  know  the  most 


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about  the  rights  and  wrongs  of  a  situation,  and  are  best  able  to  - 
make  ^e  jui^ment. 

Mr.  Nagle.  Let  me  yield  to  the  chairman. 

Mr.  Enqlibh.  I  will  be  happy  to  clarify  that  since  there  seems  to 
be  some  (question  about  it. 

The  point  that  was  made,  and  we  did  through  the  course  of  our 
inquiry,  complaints  were  made  to  me  and  to  members  of  the  staif 
that  basically  it  does  become  difficult  for  floor  treiders  and  brokers 
is  if  you  are  sitting  there  in  the  morning  and  you  have  to  vote 
against  the  guy  and  vote  a  stiff  penalty  on  him  and  then  turn 
around  in  the  £dtemoon  and  go  out  to  do  business  with  him. 

That  was  the  reason  for  the  particular  provision.  The  provision  is 
that  you  could  go  outside  the  exchange  if  you  wished,  but  it  should 
be  someone  that  does  not  have  to  mrectly  do  business  with  that 
person  day  in  and  day  out  that  should  make  the  judgment.  It  also 
says  the  mfgoritv,  it  does  not  say  fill,  and  that  is  the  reeison  for  it. 

Mr.  Nagle.  Mx.  Chairman,  let  me  reclaim  my  time,  let  me  ask 
you  a  question  maybe  it  is  as  much  to  the  Chair  as  to  the  wibiess. 
When  we  are  borrowing  or  when  we  are  restructuring  th^e  disci- 
plinary committees,  are  we  doing  it  on  the  basis  that  one  pit  will 
not  be— we  are  assuming  that  everybody  on  the  committee  is  from 
tiie  same  pit  or  are  they  from  difTerent  pits? 

Mr.  Melamed.  They  Eu*e  from  different  pits,  and  that's  a  very 
good  point.  I  was  going  to  respond  in  that  fashion.  Our  committees 
are,  in  fact,  comprised  of  members  from  different  trading  pits.  In 
fact,  we  have  a  very  healthy  mix.  If  you  are  dealing  with  a  viola- 
tion that,  for  example,  occurred  in  cattle,  it's  very  likely  that  ihe 
majority  of  those  members  will  not  be  cattle  members.  We  try  to 
structure  the  committee  differently  so  that  you  avoid  the  very  situ- 
ation the  chairman  correctly  indicates  is  difficult. 

Mr.  Nagle.  Are  the  disciplinary  bearings  open  to  the  public? 

Mr.  Melamed.  The  results  of  these  hearings  are  public.  We  are 
suggestii^  that  one  nonmember  be  on  each  of  those  disciplinary 
committees.  That  would  create  an  additional  element  of  some  out- 
sider presence. 

Mr.  Nagle.  Would  there  be  a  problem  if  they  were  open  to  the 
public? 

Mr.  Melamed.  There  is  a  problem  in  terms  of  the  legal  necessi- 
ties involved  with  the  internal  mechanisms  of  the  exchange.  I  don't 
think  that  there  has  ever  been  that  kind  of  objection  about  the  pro- 
ceedings of  OUT  exchange.  There  has  been  objection  that  there 
aren't  outside  members,  and  we  are  trying  to  correct  that. 

Mr.  Nagle.  What  percentage  of— what  number  of  disciplinary  ac- 
tions did  your  committee  take  last  yefu*?  Did  the  various  discipli- 
naiy  committees  of  your  exchange  tdte? 

Mr.  Melamed.  I  think  the  number  is  in  the  testimony,  and  I'm 
going  to  try  to  find  it.  While  it  is  being  searched  for,  I  will  say  that 
it  is  probably  a  record  we  Eire  very  proud  of  in  terms  of  how  many 
cases  we  instigated,  emd  how  many  peeple  we  peneilized. 

There  were  a  total  of  217  penalties,  313  fines  in  1986. 

Mr.  Nagle.  Wait  a  minute,  217  penalties  and  313  fines?  What's 
the  difference? 

Mr.  Mblambd.  Excuse  me,  the  figure  in  1986  was  33  participante 
penalized,  in  1987,  it  was  69,  in  1988  it  was  up  105.  The  fines  were 


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$813,000  in  1986,  $1,715,000  in  1987,  $811,000  in  1988.  In  1986,  there 
were  no  expulsions,  in  1987,  there  were  eight  expulsions  and  in 
1988,  there  were  two  expulsions.  In  1986,  there  were  suspenBiona  of 
238  business  days,  in  19S7,  there  were  12,392  business  day  suspen- 
eions,  and  in  1988,  6,110  business  days  suspension. 

Mr.  Nagle.  Two  questions.  It  looks  to  me  that  the  traders  are 
getting  more  dishonest  as  we  go  or  we  are  getting  better  at  detect- 
ing them.  We  have  gone  from  43  to  69 

Mr.  Mklamed.  Better  detection. 

Mr.  Nagle.  What  is  the  nature  of  the  abuses  th^  are  being 
fined  for,  suspended? 

Mr.  Mklamsd.  Well,  a  lot  of  them  have  to  do  with  violations  that 
occur  by  virtue  of  getting  ahead  of  the  customer  trade. 

Mr.  Nagle.  Abusing  the  dual  trading  process? 

Mr.  Melambd.  Abusing  that.  They  have  to  do  with  doing  some- 
thing that  takes  away  from  a  customer  the  rightful  trade,  not  nec- 
essarily getting  ahead,  but  simply  taking  eidvEmtage  in  another  way 
not  giving  the  customer  the  rightful  trade  that  he  ought  to  receive. 

I  am  being  given  a  following  breakdown  of  our  trades  of  the  vio> 
lations  from  l£e  year  1986.  It  is  in  table  2  of  the  appendix  to  1988, 
and  here  are  the  following  breakdowns,  if  I  could. 

Sixty-two  were  prearranged  trading  infractions;  15  were  trading 
opposite  of  customer  infractions;  6  were  a  combination  tradings;  14 
were  outside  the  exchange  hour  of  pit  trading;  3  were  disclosing 
orders;  6  were  withholding  orders;  1  was  trading  ahead  of  a  custom- 
er; and  5  were  fictitious,  what  we  would  qualify  fictitious  trade. 

Those  are  your  statistics  trom  your  committee. 

Mr.  Nagle.  No.  The  curious  thing  is  that  we  have  4,369  and  106. 
How  many  of  those  people  are  still  trading  on  the  exchange,  all  of 
them,  except  10? 

Mr.  Meiamep.  Well,  those  that  were  not  expelled  and  are  still 
not  under  suspension,  I  don't  know  the  exact  statistics.  But  once 
the  suspension  is  over,  and  if  they  are  not  expelled,  of  course  they 
could  go  back  to  the  floor. 

Mr.  Nagle.  Is  there  a  system  on  your  exchange  for — if  I  run  a 
stop  sign  once,  it's  a  $10  fine;  if  I  run  it  twice,  it's  a  $20  fine;  if  I 
run  it  the  third  time,  you  take  away  my  privil^es?  Is  it  graduated 
here  and  time  competitive? 

Mr.  Mklahed.  Absolutely.  Absolutely.  And  the  fines  are  very, 
very  heavy,  Congressman  Nagle. 

Aa  you  probaJttly  know,  our  exchange  penalties  were  at  the 
$250,000  limit  before  the  recent  structures  recommended  for  every- 
body. So  we  have  been  at  a  very,  very  high  level,  and  in  £act  have 
generated  the  laigeat  bonds  in  the  industry. 

Mr.  Nagle.  Going  beick  to  bring  this  full  circle,  with  the  indul- 
gence of  my  chairman,  you  are  eu^eeting — in  your  statement  here 
I  thought  you  were  a  lot  stronger  about  the  committee's  recommen- 
dations than,  I  guess,  your  initial  testimony. 

You  say  we  strongly  oppose  the  imposition  of  composition  re- 
quirements on  exchange  of  disciplinary  committees.  It  would  be 
rash  of  Congress  to  mandate  changes  in  the  absence  of  a  document- 
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You  are  saying,  however,  you  fire  willing  to  accept  the  require- 
ment  that,  perhaps  from  us,  that  there  be  outside  members  on  the 
disciplinary  committee? 

Mr.  Melahed.  That's  right.  We  recommended  that  ourselves. 

Mr.  Nagle.  Is  the  problem  with  the  elimination  of  the  peer  proc- 
ess the  lack  of  knowledge  that  would  take  place  on  the  vEuious  dis- 
ciplinary committees? 

Mr.  Melamed.  Again,  the  peer  pressure? 

Mr.  Nagle.  The  peer  knowledge.  I  mean  if  you're  working  in  a 
certain  area,  I  mean  if  you're  being  judged  by  your  peers,  your 
peers  are  more  likely  to  quickly  know  that  that  in  fact  is  a  viola- 
tion  or  an  abuse? 

Mr.  Melamed.  That's  correct. 

Mr.  Nagle.  Well,  I  thank  the  Chair  for  his  indulgence. 

Mr.  English.  Mr.  Gunderson. 

Mr.  Gunderson.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairmfm. 

Is  it  fair  to  say,  having  read  your  testimony,  Mr.  Melamed,  that 
you  would  favor  just  a  simple  straight  reauthorization  of  present 
law  only  makii^  it  permanent? 

Mr.  Melamed.  Well,  we  recommended  many  changes  ihat  we 
will  offer  to  the  CFTC. 

As  far  as  reauthorization  goes,  we  favor  reauthorization. 

Mr.  Gunderson.  I  get  the  impression  that  you  don't  want  any- 
thing else  in  the  statute,  that  what  you  really  want  us  to  do  is 
simply  reauthorize  present  law  and  let  any  decisions  that  are  made 
be  done  by  CFTC. 

Mr.  Melamed.  Well,  I  don't  know  how  that  necessarily  has  to 
work  because  we  have  made  recommendations.  I  don't  want  to  sug- 
gest how  that  should  happen.  We  expect  our  recommendations  will 
become  law  in  one  form  or  another,  whether  they  take  the  form  in 
legislative  action  by  you  with  an  order  to  the  CFTC,  or  whether 
they  take  the  form  of  CFTC  directed  to  us.  It  won't  matter  much  to 
us. 

Those  are  decisions  I  cannot  make. 

The  permanence  of  the  CFTC,  if  you  refer  to  that,  we  would 
like — we  eigree  with 

Mr.  Gunderson.  I  see  that. 

Mr.  Melamed.  Yes. 

Mr.  Gunderson.  Are  you  confident  that  the  FBI  investigation 
will  not  reveal  any  inadequate  regulations  by  CFTC  or  fuiy  inad- 
equate legislation  regarding  the  whole  futures  industry? 

I  mean  are  you  confident  that  there's  nothing  in  the  investiga- 
tion that  will  reveal  a  need  for  chtmge? 

Mr.  Melamed.  I  would  not  say  that  I'm  confident  because  I  have 
no  knowledge  of  what  that  will  show.  However,  the  little  bit  I  have 
beard,  and  it  is  not  with  confidence  that  I  say  so,  would  not  give  us 
the  indication  that  our  surveillance  system  is  not  good. 

Mr.  Gunderson.  And  you  don't  anticipate  anything  from  that  in- 
vestigation on  the  issue  of  dual  trading? 

Mr.  Melamed.  I  don't  know.  But  I  don't  think  that  that  ts  the 
only  focal  point  or  that  it  will  be  a  main  focal  point.  I  don't  expect 
that. 


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Mr.  GuNDERSON.  The  one  area  that  I  am  concerned  about,  as  we 
look  at  a  permanent  reauthorization  is  the  whole  area  of  interna- 
tional trading. 

You  mentioned  in  your  testimony  at  length  on  Globex,  et  cetera. 
Would  you  comment  on  Chairman  Gramm's  testimony  earlier 
where  she  had  obviously  advocated  giving  them  the  auUiority  to 
make  investigations  for  foreign  exchanges? 

Would  you  believe  that,  as  appropriate,  No.  1,  do  you  believe  they 
have  the  resources  and  expertise,  No.  2,  to  do  that?  And  I  would 
like  you  to  be  brief  so  I  can  pursue  some  questioning  further. 

Mr.  Melamed.  Well,  to  the  degree  we  have  to  give  the  CITC  the 
authority  to  do  this  kind  of  investigation,  because  it  often  leads  to 
impact  on  our  markets  and  our  prices.  We  have  to  know  that  the 
integrity  on  the  playing  field  of  our  customers  in  foreign  lands  is 
such  that  they  are  safe  there  as  well.  And  the  only  way  that  can  be 
done  is  if  the  CFTC  has  some  authority  to  do  those  kinds  of  investi- 
gations. 

Mr.  GuNDEHSON.  Can  you  give  this  committee  any  examples 
where  present  r^ulations  impede  our  competitive  aJbility  with 
other  exchanges,  such  as  Tokyo,  London,  et  cetera? 

Mr.  Melameh.  Present  regulations? 

Well,  the  biggest  problem  we  have  faced  is  in  authority  to  launch 
a  new  instnunent.  This  requires  authority  from  the  CPTC  that 
goes  through  quite  a  protreicted  period  of  review.  And  sometimes 
requires  even  a  nonveto  by  the  SEC. 

I  will  give  you  an  example  of  the  kind  of  thing  we've  run  into 
that  has  given  me  gray  hairs. 

It  was  with  the  Nikkei  225  stock  index  which  represents  the 
Tokyo  stock  market.  When  Clayton  Yeutter,  who  is  presently  Sec- 
retary of  Agriculture,  weis  president  of  our  exchange,  and  I 
achieved  North  American  contract  rights,  with  the  owners  of  that 
instrument,  the  Nihon  Keizai  Shimbun  oi^anization  of  Japan  we 
wanted  to  laimch  that  instrument  in  our  futures  market  in  Chica- 
go. 

To  do  that,  we  applied  to  the  CFTC.  And  we  had  to  get  a  nonveto 
from  the  SEC. 

Four  years  went  by  before  that  was  achieved.  By  then,  the 
Nikkei  contract  was  listed  in  Tokyo  and  in  Osaka.  The  stock  index 
futures  market  t>egan  there.  We  still  haven't  listed  it  because  we 
lost  the  right  timing  and,  to  a  degree,  we  lost  the  market. 

Mr.  GuNDERSON.  How  mimy  of  your  traders  also  would  partici- 
pate in  say  the  Tokyo,  London,  or  any  other  foreign  exchange? 

Mr.  Melamed.  WeU,  it  would  develop.  I  do  know  in  the  b^finning 
it  would  be  probably  small.  But  it  will  develop  over  time,  and  that's 
why  you  need  the  timing  to  institute  the  market  so  that  it  can  in- 
crease in  use  and  development.  But  I  don't  know  in  absolute  num- 
bers. 

Mr.  Brodsky.  I  would  supplement  that  by  saying  that  the  major 
firms  that  belong  to  our  exchange  have  joined  the  Tokyo  Stock  fc- 
chfuige  Emd  the  Osaka  Stock  Exchange  so  they  could  trade  these 
products.  Because  if  they're  offered  there  and  not  extend  here, 
they  will  participate  over  there. 


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Many  of  the  m^or  investment  banking  firms  and  trading  houses 
of  the  United  States  beloi^  to  the  Tokyo  Stock  Exchai^te  for  that 
reason. 

Mr.  GuNDERSON.  Are  there  varyii^c  degrees  of  standards  for  par- 
ticipation today  in  one  exchange,  here  say  versus  the  foreign  ex- 
chal^e? 

Mr.  Brodsky.  There  are  very  differing  standards  and,  in  fact, 
that's  an  area  in  terms  of  international  trade  policy  that  we  have 
been  involved  in.  Because  there's  been  what  I  would  call  some  dis- 
crimination against  U.S.  firms  becoming  members  of  of&hore  ex- 
changes, where  we  have  not  had  similar  barriers.  That's  an  area 
where  we  need  the  understEuiding  and  support  of  Congress. 

Mr.  GuNDERSON.  All  right.  Thank  you. 

Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman. 

Mr.  English.  Mr.  Nagle  has  one  question. 

Mr.  Nagle.  Just  one  question  for  the  record. 

We  were  talking  numbers  of  violations,  you  know,  the  4,369. 

How  many  members  are  there  that  trade  on  the  exchanges  in  a 
given  year? 

Mr.  Meiamed.  Oh,  I  would  say  on  average,  we  have  2,700  mem- 
bers, but  not  all  of  them,  of  course,  trade.  Many  of  them  just  own 
the  memberships  and  lease  them  out. 

I  would  say  there's  an  average  of  around  2,000  traders. 

Mr.  Nagle.  You  are  hitting  less  than  1  percent  with  violation? 
You're  finding  less  than  1  percent  violation  by  the  traders  per 
year? 

Mr.  Melamed.  That's  right. 

Mr.  Nagle.  I  didn't  want  to  leave  the  impression  that  everybody 
on  the  exchange  was  engaged  in  hanky-panky  or  anything  like 
that. 

Mr.  Melamed.  I  thank  you  for  straightening  that  out. 

Mr.  Nagle.  I  also  did  not  say  that  nobody  was  engaged  in  viola- 
tive conduct. 

Mr.  Melamed.  Well,  we  know  that  too. 

Mr.  Nagle.  Thank  you. 

Mr.  English.  Mr.  Coleman. 

Mr.  Coleman.  Let  me  Eisk  briefly,  Leo,  questions  about  the  S  and 
P  500  contract  and  your  experiment  to  ban  dual  treiding  from  tliat 
pit.  That  was  Eind  is  a  continuing  experiment? 

Mr.  Melamed.  Yes,  it  is. 

Mr.  Coleman.  And  the  results,  as  you  have  put  forward  in  the 
report  of  the  special  committee,  are  such  that  it  basically  heisn't 
htid  an  impact  on  the  liquidity  of  the  market. 

Mr.  Melamed.  Well,  let  me  explain  a  little  bit  about  that. 

We  didn't  actually  ban  dual  trading  in  that  pit.  What  we  did  was 
exclude  dual  traders  &om  the  top  step  where  Uie  order  flow  (nrnes. 
Therefore,  by  doing  that,  if  you  want  to  be  a  broker  on  the  top 
step,  you  can't  be  a  dual  trader. 

We  know  that  most  of  the  orders  in  the  pit  come  from,  through 
the  top  step.  We  expect  that  somewhere  at  the  90-percent  level 
means  that  the  brokers  who  handle  these  orders  cannot  trade  for 
their  own  account. 

While  we  did  stete  that  the  impeict,  we  have  not  measured  as  a 
result  of  the  dual  trading  prohibiUon,  we  are  not  totally  confident. 


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because  volume  did  fall  precipitously  since  the  time  of  the  prohibi- 
tion. 

However,  you  will  know  that  at  the  same  timeframe,  the  1987 
stock  crash  occurred,  and  that  too  was  a  factor  in  reducing  volume. 

So  it  is  difficult  to  make  a  concrete  judgment  how  much  effect 
was  from  one  thing  and  how  much  effect  &t>m  the  other. 

The  experiment  has  given  us  Bome  confidence  but  not  total  confi- 
dence. 

Mr.  Coleman.  Is  it  something  that  we  would  want  to  take  a  look 
at  as  a  possible  legislative  alternative  to  current  bills  and  propos- 
als? 

Mr.  Melamed.  The  top  step  exclusion  is  an  old  idiocfynciacy  of 
that  market  and  isn't  very  transferrable  to  other  markete.  We  con- 
sidered  that  kind  of  thing  ourselves  and  studied  it.  But  it  doesn't 
work  the  same. 

See,  most  markets  have  different  idiosyncracies  and  the  order 
flow  is  different  in  each  market.  And  so  you  really  have  to  make 
that  applicability  in  a  market  by  market  basis. 

Mr.  Coleman.  Thank  you. 

Mr.  English.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Coleman. 

Leo,  I  have  only  one  other  question  to  ask  you. 

In  listening  to  what  you  said  and  looking  at  what  you  presented, 
is  it  basically  your  perception  that  the  difference  between  what  the 
bill  is  before  us  and  what  you're  proposing  is  we're  talking  about 
d^rees? 

Mr.  Melamed.  We  are  talking  about  degrees  and  the  approach. 
Our  approach  is  a  standard  of  veriiiability.  The  approach  being 
submitted  to  us  is  a  number  of  volume.  That's  a  difference. 

And  then  we're  talking  about  whether  you  can  do  a  complete  100 
percent  verifiability  or  some  lesser  reasonable  number. 

Yes,  to  a  d^ree  you're  right.  Our  goals  are  certoinly  the  same. 
The  approach  is  somewhat  different. 

Mr.  English.  So  basically  we're  t-jlVing  about  whether  it's  90 
percent  or  whether  it's  something  higher  than  90  percent.  And  the 
question  is:  How  do  we  determine  this  question  of  liquidity  and 
whether  it  should  be  done  by  volume  or  whether  it  be  done  by 
some  other  mechanism,  is  that  right? 

Mr.  Melamed.  That's  right. 

Mr.  English.  All  right.  Thank  you  very  much,  Leo.  I  appreciate 
your  testimony. 

Mr.  Melamed.  Thank  you.  I  appreciate  this  opportunity.  And  I 
thank  you  for  your  work  today.  I  know  that  it  has  been  a  difBcult 
job  but  a  very  good  one  you  have  done.  And  we  commend  you  for 
it. 

Mr.  English.  Well,  we  wemt  to  keep  working  at  it.  You  know, 
the  objective  of  this  legislation  is  to  mske  sure  Uiat  we  substantial- 
ly raise  the  standards  up  to  what  we  expect  in  the  industry.  I  know 
tliat'a  an  objective  that  you  agree  with.  It's  one  that  I  think  will 
enhance  the  markets.  It  would  certainly,  I  think,  bring  more  confi- 
dence as  far  as  the  public  is  concerned  in  the  markets. 

And  I  think  that  s  where  they  go  for  everyone,  and  if  s  fiu*  the 
good  of  everyone. 

Mr.  Melamed.  Our  goal  is  common.  Thank  you. 


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Mr.  English.  We  are  going  to  be  looking  forward  to  working 
with  you. 

Mr.  Mbiamed.  Thank  you. 

Mr.  Engush.  Thank  you. 

Our  next  witness  is  Mr.  Robert  Wilmouth,  president  of  the  Na- 
tional Futures  Association. 

STATEMENT  OF  ROBERT  K.  WILMOUTH.  PRESIDENT,  NATIONAL 
FUTURES  ASSOCIATION,  ACCOMPANIED  BY  DAN  ROTH,  GENER- 
AL COUNSEL,  AND  JEAN  TIPPINS,  VICE  PRESIDENT  IN  CHARGE 
OF  ADMINISTRATION 

Mr.  Wilmouth.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman. 

And  with  your  approved,  I  have  two  of  my  associates  with  me  at 
the  table.  On  my  right  is  Dan  Roth,  who  is  our  general  counsel, 
and  on  my  left  is  Jean  Tippins  who  is  our  vice  president  in  charge 
of  administration. 

And  we  thank  you  for  the  opportunity  to  present  our  views  this 
afternoon. 

As  envisioned  by  Congress,  NFA  never  intended  to  duplicate  tuid 
has  not  duplicated  the  regulatory  efforts  of  the  exchanges.  That  is, 
the  regulation  on  the  exchange  trading  floors.  Rather,  our  responsi* 
bilities  to  protect  the  public  begin  well  before  and  continue  well 
after  the  execution  of  a  trade.  Our  members  are  the  flnns  and  indi- 
viduals that  conduct  futures  business  with  the  public. 

Just  quickly,  our  four  primcu?  responsibilities  include  the  follow- 
ing: 

One,  preventing  unethical  Arms  and  persons  from  entering  or 
conducting  business  in  the  futures  industry.  We  do  this  by  perform- 
ing a  screening  and  registration  function  on  behalf  of  the  CFTC; 

Two,  we  try  to  assure  that  those  who  do  conduct  business  in  the 
futures  industry  do  so  according  to  high  ethical  standards.  They 
must  comply  with  the  rules  which  we  have  developed  and  which 
we  strictly  enforce  to  protect  the  public  customer; 

Three,  we  do  provide  through  our  extensive  education  pn^Euns 
the  information  that  can  help  the  public  make  informed  invest- 
ment decisions  or,  depending  on  the  individual,  an  informed  deci- 
sion not  to  invest  in  the  futures  market;  and 

Four,  we  have  established  a  nationwide  arbitration  forum  that 
provides  public  customers  with  a  fair,  prompt,  and  inexpensive 
means  to  resolve  any  disputes  which  may  arise  in  connection  with 
the  trading  of  futures  contracts. 

Our  accomplishments  in  each  of  these  areas  since  the  last  reau- 
thorization of  the  CPFC  are  described  in  a  report  which  we  have 
provided  to  each  of  you. 

Now,  certain  proposed  amendments  to  the  act  would  directly 
impact  NFA  in  carrying  out  its  responsibilities.  And  it  is  those  on 
which  I  would  like  to  comment  specifically  today. 

There  are  some  others  which  do  not  directly  impact  NFA  but,  of 
course,  would  have  a  profound  impact  on  the  futures  industry,  and 
my  comments  on  those  areas  are  contained  in  my  written  t^itimo- 
ny.  But  specifically  to  those  that  Eiffect  NFA: 

One  is  registration  requirements.  One  of  the  best  ways  to  protect 
the  public  from  unscrupulous  firms  and  individuals  is  to  keep  those 


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people  out  of  the  industry  in  the  first  place.  NFA  has  boon  han- 
dling this  job  since  October  1,  1985,  when  we  assumed  responsibil- 
ity for  denying,  revoking,  restricting,  or  conditioning  registration 
for  all  categories  except  floor  brokers  and  leverage  transaction 
merchants. 

We  strongly  support  the  proposed  amendments  which  will  not 
only  flne  tune  and  tighten  the  fitness  standards  of  the  futures  in- 
dustiy,  but  would  codify  certain  of  the  Commission's  and  NFA's 
prior  interpretations  of  the  existing  disqualification  provisions  and 
resolve  certain  ambiguities  in  the  act  which  NFA  has  encountered 
over  the  past  4  years. 

Furthermore,  should  floor  traders,  as  your  bill  provides,  be  re- 
quired to  register  under  the  act,  we  have  the  capability  to  perfimn 
that  activity. 

On  the  subject  of  telemarketing  fraud,  the  prevention  of  decep- 
tive sales  practices  is  precisely  where  NFA  has  focused  its  rule- 
making and  rule  enforcement  efforts.  We  believe  this  industry's 
sales  practice  regulations  are  second  to  none  in  their  comprehen- 
siveness, effectiveness,  and  enforcement.  Thus,  while  we  welcome 
any  legislation  which  would  help  combat  whatever  small  percent- 
age of  persons  in  our  industry  who  engage  in  deceptive  or  high 
pressure  sales  tactics,  we  have  serious  reservations  as  to  whether 
the  proposed  legislation  would  in  fact  have  that  effect. 

The  proposed  rule  could  unduly  be  burdensome  to  the  over^ 
whelming  mf^ority  of  our  members  who  are  honest,  legitimate 
business  persons.  Correctly  identifying  which  "first  time"  custon- 
ers  are  solicited  by  phone  could  pose  substantial  problems  of  practi- 
cality in  the  real  world.  In  addition,  there  may  be  sophisticated  in- 
stitutionfd  customers  whose  trading  may  not  be  exclusively  hedg- 
ing for  whom  this  "protection"  would  be  both  unnecessary  and  po- 
tentially harmful. 

If  there  is  any  way  to  narrow  the  focus  of  this  concept,  to  pin- 
point the  relative  handful  of  unscrupulous  firms,  NFA  could  sup- 
port the  proposal  imd,  in  fact,  we  do  have  some  ideas  which  we 
would  like  to  present  to  the  committee. 

With  respect  to  the  issue  of  public  representation  on  our  board  (rf 
directors,  our  articles  of  incorporation  have  always  provided  for 
public  representation.  Three  of  the  42  people  on  our  board  ere 
elected  as  public  representatives,  and  their  varied  backgrounds  pro- 
vide a  wealth  of  industry,  legislative,  and  eicademic  perspectivee. 
But  we  fdso  have  five  other  members  whom  we  believe  qualify  as 
public  directors.  Three  of  those  represent  commercial  firms,  and 
the  others  represent  commercial  banking  institutions.  And  th^ 
give  us  valuable  extemtd  insights  and  counsel. 

So  if  we  understand  correctly,  we  are  already  in  substantial  com- 
pliance with  your  requirement  of  20  percent  since  8  of  our  42,  or 
roughly  19  percent  of  our  seats,  are  covered  by  what  we  call  pidilic 
members. 

The  issue  of  disqualification  standards  to  serve  on  NFA's  board 
of  directors  and  disciplinary  committees  is  one  which  we  are  cur^ 
rently  considering,  and  we  think  it  may  well  be  appropriate  to  dis- 
qualify from  board  or  committee  membership  {>ersons  who  have 
been  found  to  have  committed  a  major  rule  violation. 


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We  would  caution  the  committee,  however,  that  in  detenuining 
what  cons^tutes  m^or  rule  violation,  the  focus  must  not  be  on  the 
rule  but  on  the  violation.  All  of  our  compliance  rules  are  designed 
in  one  way  or  other  to  protect  the  public.  The  violation  of  any  of 
t^se  rules  could  so  undermine  one's  confidence  in  a  person's  judg- 
ment that  he  should  be  disqualified  from  board  membership. 
Others,  however,  may  only  be  technical  in  nature.  And  the  best 
way  to  determine  a  major  rule  violation  is  to  focus  not  on  the  rule 
that  WEis  violated,  but  on  the  sanction. 

If  that  reflects  the  committee's  intent,  we  certainly  support  the 
proposed  amendment. 

We  also  agree  with  the  committee  that  registrants  should  receive 
adequate  treiding  concerning  their  ethical  responsibilities  to  cus- 
tomers. Toward  that  end,  we  have  alreeidy  made  significant 
changes  in  the  National  Commodity  Futures  exam.  The  content 
has  been  changed  to  put  greater  emphasis  on  an  understanding  of 
regulatory  requirements,  and  the  exam  is  graded  not  only  on 
market  knowledge  but  equally  so  on  regulatory  knowledge. 

And  while  these  chEuiges  have  already  improved  the  industry's 
attention  to  ethics  training,  we  fully  support  imy  proposed  amend- 
ments which  would  focus  even  greater  attention  on  this  critical 
area. 

And,  finally,  NFA  strongly  supports  the  proposal  to  make  the 
CFTC  a  permsment  EigenCT.  This  would  ensure  continuing  congres- 
sional oversight  of  the  CFTC,  it  would  eliminate  ongoing  uncertain- 
ties about  the  agency's  existence,  and  it  would  facilitate  more  effec* 
tive  use  of  the  Commission's  resources  to  relate  futures  markets. 
The  proposal  is  both  welcome  and  long  overdue. 

Agfiin,  we  thank  you  for  your  attention,  and  we  will  be  pleased 
to  answer  any  questions  that  you  m^ht  have,  Mr.  Chairman. 

[The  prepared  statement  of  Mr.  mlmouth  appears  at  the  conclu- 
sion of  the  hearing.] 

Mr.  English.  Thank  you  very  much,  Bob.  I  appreciate  that. 

There  has  been  a  good  deal  of  discussion  with  regard  to  the  ques- 
tion of  how  we  do  the  telephone  solicitation.  I  know  that  this  com- 
mittee is  not  the  only  committee  that  has  an  interest  and  is  con- 
cerned about  that.  And  we  are  looking  for  ways  to  strengthen  that 
particular  aspect  of  it.  The  real  question  comes  down  even  with  the 
3-day  period  that  we  have  after  a  person  is  registered. 

lliey  file  or  apply  with  a  firm.  Even  then  we  are  concerned  that 
the  unscrupulous  may  And  a  way  to  maneuver  Eiround  that  par- 
ticular aspect. 

Do  you  have  any  specific  suggestions  as  to  how  we  might  address 
that? 

Mr.  WiLMOUTH.  Well,  we  have  several  thoughts,  and  I  might  ask 
Deui  Roth,  our  general  counsel,  who  has  been  looking  at  this,  as  we 
thought  that  might  be  a  possibility  to  discuss  some  of  the  ideas 
that  we  do  have.  And  we  would  like  to  present  them  later  in  detail 
to  you. 

Mr.  Roth.  Just  in  general,  I  think  the  two  points  to  be  addressed 
axe  the  effectiveness  of  the  proposal  and  its  unintended  side  efiects. 

With  respect  to  unintended  side  effects,  just  two  points  we  would 
note  in  passing,  that  we  would  be  happy  to  discuss  with  staff  at 
greater  length. 


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We  might  be  able  to  draw  some  compariaons  from  NFA'a  own 
"know  your  customer"  rule.  For  instance,  that  rule,  which  has 
proved  a  very  effective  enforcement  tool  for  NFA,  applies  only  to 
customers  that  are  natural  persons  and  not  to  corporate  customers 
and,  therefore,  limits  the  scope  of  the  people  that  are  entitled  to 
the  protection  from  that  rule  to  those  people  that  need  it. 

An^  investor  sophisticated  enough  to  incorporate  is  arguably  so- 
phisticated enough  not  to  need  the  protection  of  NFA  compliknce 
rule  2-30.  The  same  point  might  be  made  with  respect  to  a  pro- 
posed telemarketing  fraud  provision. 

Similarly,  our  nue  requires  members  to  gather  certain  informa- 
tion from  customers  such  as  their  net  worth  and  nnmifll  income 
and  BO  forth.  The  rules  makes  very  cleeu*  so  as  not  to  he  unduly 
burdensome  on  our  members,  that  our  members  can  rely  on  the  in- 
formation provided  to  them  by  the  customers,  and  have  no  due  dili- 
gence obligation  to  try  to  veri^  or  corroborate  that  infonnation. 

A  similar  type  provision  for  this  aspect  of  the  bill  rcttarding 
whether  a  cummer  is  a  first  time  customer  and  whether  ne  was 
solicited  by  phone  is  something  that  might  want  to  be  considered. 

In  addition,  we  would  like  to  talk  with  staff  about  possibly  pursu- 
ing tioB  as  a  means  of  refining  the  supervision  requiremente  which 
are  already  incorporated  into  CFTC  rules  and  NFA  rules.  Clearly 
what  constitutes  diligent  supervision  will  vary  from  firm  to  firm 
depending  on  the  nature  of  the  firm's  business.  For  those  firms 
more  actively  engaged  in  retail  sales,  for  those  firms  which  have 
past  disciplinary  histories,  for  those  firms  whose  sales  forces  have 
come  from  firms  with  disciplinary  problems,  it  may  well  be  appro- 
priate to  imprae  upon  those  firms  somewhat  different  provision  re- 
quirements. That  might  be  a  way  to  focus  the  attention  of  this  pro- 
vision. 

Mr.  EInglish.  Mr.  Roth,  it  sounds  like  that  would  be  an  area  that 
we  would  be  very  interested  in  so  I  hope  that  you  will  continue  to 
work  on  that  and  consult  with  both  majority  and  minorily  staff  on 
the  subcommittee. 

We  are  looking  for  a  way  of  refining  down  that  particular  aspect 
of  the  proposal.  So  that  would  be  most  helpful  and.  Bob,  we  would 
appreciate  that  very  much. 

Mr.  Coleman. 

Mr.  COLKBUN.  Bob,  let  me  ask  you  a  question  about  your  new 
procedures  to  review  promotional  material  for  members. 

I  believe  you  have  embarked  on  a  pilot  project  or  a  program  the 
beginning  of  May  in  which  people  can  run  materials  by  an  NFA 
committee  and  get  an  approval  based  upon  some  facts,  which 
would  have  to  be  documented  eventually. 

You  could  give  an  overall  approval,  a  disclaimer,  and  help  basi- 
cally your  members  who  are  tryii^  to  conform  to  the  appropriate 
NFA  rules. 

If  a  company  does  that,  comes  to  you  and  your  review  panel,  and 
you  give  them  the  approvftl,  do  they  basically  have  a  defense  that 
you  can't  come  back  later,  having  depended  upon  that  approrol 
and  cite  them?  That's  kind  of  like  what  we  hear  from  constituents 
with  tbe  mS.  They  get  misinformation  and  the  IRS  says,  <^  Tm 
sorry,  that  was  misinformation,  even  though  the  agency  gave  it 
out. 


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What  ifi  your  position  on  that? 

Mr.  WiLMOUTH.  Let  me  go  into  a  little  bit  of  background,  if  I  can. 

The  question  of  what  constitutes  proper  advertising  and  what 
doesn't  has  been  one  that  our  members  have  been  concerned  about 
because  what  they  think  they're  doing  is  correct,  and  then  we  crane 
along  and  we  slap  them  with  a  fine,  or  we  suspend  them,  or  some- 
thing like  that 

What  we  have  attempted  to  do  is  to  say  to  them,  look,  if  you 
submit  your  advertising  to  us  in  general,  we  will  take  a  look  at  it, 
and  we  will  tell  you  whether  or  not  we  think  it's  going  to  comply 
with  our  rule.  We  are  going  to  do  that  within  a  period  of  3  weeks, 
and  this  is  on  a  trial  basis. 

It  would  be  my  feeling  that  it  would  not  necessarily,  and  I  may 
have  to  refer  to  legal  counsel,  would  not  necessarily  exempt  them 
from  any  punishment  from  us  if  we  found  out  later  on  that  they 
had  twisted  it. 

But  if  somebody  comes  in  and  presents  a  piece  of  advertising  and 
we  say  that  it  looks  OK,  and  it  continues  to  be  used  in  that  exact 
same  format,  I  would  think  we  would  have  a  difficult  time  of  prov- 
ing that  it  was  wrong  if  we  had  put  our  blessing,  our  stamp  o£  ap- 
proval on  it. 

But  essentially  it's  just  to  give  them  a  general  overall  approval 
of  the  approach  they're  taking. 

Mr.  CoLBtCAN.  OK.  Now,  previously,  under  the  old  methodology, 
you  would  perhaps  take  what  you  might  call  a  no  action  position. 
You  would  not  approve  in  a  positive  sense  but  you  wouldn  t  disap- 
prove? 

Mr.  WiLMOUTH.  No.  What  we  used  to  do  before  wtis  to  require 
certain  firms  with  whom  we  had  a  problem  to  submit  their  adver- 
tising to  us  in  advance.  We  made  that  a  specific  requirement.  If  we 
did  an  investigation  of  a  firm  and  we  brought  them  to  the  atten- 
tion of  our  business  conduct  committee  because  of  the  fraudulent 
advertising  that  they  were  using,  or  the  misleading  advertising, 
one  of  the  sanctions  might  be  you  must  submit  that  advertising  to 
us  in  advance,  and  they  would  have  to  do  that.  Otherwise,  ttiey 
would  be  in  violation  of  our  order. 

And  this  was  to  make  certain  that  any  of  those  who  were  a  prob- 
lem in  the  past  had  an  opportunity  to  come  In  end  present  new 
material  in  advance  and  get  kind  of  our  imprimatur  or  blessing  or 
seal  of  approval,  "Good  Housekeeping"  seal  of  approval  in  a  wtiy. 

Mr.  CoLKMAN.  Would  you  indeed  give  your  approval,  or  would 
you  take  a  nonaction? 

Mr.  WiLMOUTH.  No.  We  basically,  if  they  submitted  the  advertis- 
ing to  us  in  accordance  with  our  request,  and  we  saw  nottiing 
wrong  with  it,  we  would  let  them  go  ahead  and  use  that  advertis- 
ing. 

Mr.  Coleman.  I  see. 

And  what  if  it  weis  not  a  problem  firm  that  didn't  get  a  request 
from  you  to  submit  this,  what  would  be  the  normal  course  of  the 
firm? 

Mr.  WiLMOUTH.  If  we  felt  it  was  serious  enough,  we  would  bring 
an  action  or  a  complaint  against  them,  and  bring  it  to  the  atten- 
tion of  our  buBiness  conduct  committee. 


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In  meuiy  cases,  I  must  say  that  when  we  bring  that  to  their  at- 
tention, they  would  stop  using  it  immediately,  and  then  there 
would  be  no  new  cause  to  go  after  it  because  it  would  be  an  honest 
misinterpretation  of  what  they  felt  would  be  OK  before  we  brought 
it  to  their  attention.  Then  they  would  refrain  from  using  it. 

Mr.  Coleman.  But  previously  if  the  firm  had  not  hfia  problems, 
but  had  submitted  something  to  you,  you  would  have  said 

Mr.  WiLMOUTH.  We  didn't  have  a  pn^am  like  that 

Mr.  CoLEiiiAN.  You  didn't  have  a  program? 

Mr.  WiLMOUTH.  Until  just  recently.  This  is  our  new  pilot  pro- 
gram  

Mr.  Coleman.  So  there  was  no  way  of  doii^  it  before? 

Mr.  WiLMOUTH.  That's  right. 

Mr.  Coleman.  And  no  one  would  have  said,  well,  the  fact  that  we 
are  not  going  to  approve  this  doesn't  mean  we  are  disapproving  it 
either? 

Mr.  WiufouTH.  That's  right.  What  we  kind  of  felt  as  we  got 
alot^,  and  you  have  got  to  remember,  NFA  is  a  relatively  new  or- 
ganization, it  began  in  1982,  we  tried  to  put  out  some  interpretive 
notices  as  to  just  exactly  what  we  felt  would  be  good  or  bad  in  a 
particular  area. 

And  I  think  advertising  is  a  very  difficult  one  to  do.  And  scnne  of 
our  members  were  effectively  saying,  we  think  that  you're  cracking 
down  on  us  when  you  really  Bhouldn't  be.  That's  why  we  have  de- 
vised this  recent  pn^etm. 

I  must  fdso  say  that  we  spent  a  lot  of  time,  particularly  in  our 
etirly  years,  and  still  do,  assisting  a  lot  of  our  members  in  terms  of 
helping  them  not  only  set  up  books  but  also  determining  what  is 
and  what  isn't  proper  advertising  or  proper  activities  with  the  cus- 
tomer. 

Mr.  CoLEBtAN.  Thank  you. 

Mr.  English.  Well,  thank  you  very  much.  Bob.  I  appreciate  your 
testimony  and  we  are  looking  forward  to  working  with  you. 

I  think  that  one  provision  is  an  area  that  we  can  strengthen  and 
we  look  for  the  help  NFA  can  do. 

Mr.  WiLMOUTH.  I  certainly  will.  We'll  have  something  to  you 
next  week.  Thank  you. 

Mr.  English.  Let  me  also  say  that  we  have  received  letters  com- 
menting on  this  bill,  and  we  expect  to  receive  statements  fit>m  a 
number  of  other  organizations.  Any  statements,  written  statements 
that  are  submitted  to  the  subcommittee  will  be  included  as  a  pert 
of  our  record. 

[The  prepared  statement  of  Ms.  Vogel  appears  at  the  conclusion 
of  the  hearing.] 

Mr.  ENGLISH.  We  will  now  recess  until  2  o'clock,  when  our  next 
witness  will  be  Mr.  Karsten  Mahlmann  who  is  with  the  Chicago 
Board  of  Trade. 

[Whereupon,  at  12:55  p.m.,  the  subcommittee  recessed,  to  recon- 
vene at  2  p.m.,  the  same  day.] 

AFTERNOON  SESSION 

Mr.  English.  The  subcommittee  wilt  be  in  order.  Our  next  wit- 
ness is  Mr.  Karsten  Mahlmann,  who  is  chairman  of  the  Chicago 


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Board  of  Trade,  and  I  see  that  he  has  individuals  accompanyli^; 
him. 

Mr.  Mahlmann,  we  are  going  to  let  you  introduce  the  gentlemen 
that  are  with  you. 

STATEMENT   OF   KAR8TEN    MAHLMANN,   CHAIRMAN,   CHICAGO 
BOARD   OF   TRADE,   ACCOMPANIED    BY   THOMAS    DONOVAN, 
PRESIDENT     AND     CHIEF     EXECUTIVE     OFFICER     DONALD 
ANDREW,    MEMBER,    EXECUTIVE    COMMITTEE    OF    THE    EX- 
CHANGE;   SCOTT    EARLY,    GENERAL    COUNSEL    OF    THE    EX- 
CHANGE; FRED  GREDE,  VICE  PRESIDENT  IN  CHARGE  OF  THE 
OFFICE  OF  AUDITS  AND  INVESTIGATIONS 
Mr.  Mahlmann.  Mr.  Chairman,  thank  you  very  much  for  letting 
us  appear  before  your  committee  to  address  H.R.  2869.  With  me 
this  afternoon  are,  to  my  right,  Mr.  Thomas  Donovan,  president 
and  chief  executive  officer  of  the  Chicago  Board  of  Trade;  next  to 
him,  on  the  right,  Mr.  Donald  Andrew,  a  member  of  the  executive 
committee  of  the  exchange,  a  member  of  the  board;  next  to  my  left, 
Scott  Early,  general  counsel  of  the  exchange;  next  to  him,  Fred 
Grede,  vice-president  of  the  exchange  in  cheoge  of  the  office  of 
audits  and  investigations. 

Mr.  English.  I  want  to  repeat  what  I  said  earlier  this  momii^c. 
Anyone  testifying  this  afternoon  and  summarizing  their  testimony, 
wiuiout  objection  their  full  and  complete  written  testimony  will  be 
made  a  part  of  the  record. 
Mr.  Mahlmann.  Thank  you  very  much,  Mr.  Chairman. 
Mr.  English.  So,  we'll  turn  it  to  you. 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  am  here  to  present  the  views 
of  the  Chicago  Board  of  Trade  on  H.R.  2869,  the  Commodity  Fu- 
tures Improvements  Act  of  1989. 

Among  other  things,  this  legislation  metkes  the  CFTC  a  perma- 
nent Government  Eigency.  The  Chicago  Bo{u*d  of  Trade  endorses 
that  action.  While  we  do  not  agree  on  everything  with  the  CFTC  at 
all  times,  we  respect  the  important  role  played  by  a  mature  and 
expert  agency  in  overseeing  the  self-regulatory  scheme  embodied  in 
the  Commodity  Exchange  Act.  The  vote  of  confidence  reflected  in 
H.R.  2869  for  the  CFTC  is  well-deserved. 

Mr.  Chairmfin,  in  sponsoring  H.R.  2869,  you  indicated  that  you 
wanted  to  promote  both  the  int^frity  of  U.S.  futures  mtirkets  tuid 
our  ability  to  compete  with  foreign  markets.  We  share  these  objec- 
tives, but  disagree  with  how  some  of  the  provisions  in  H.R.  2869 
would  accompush  them.  We  would  like  to  propose  alternative  pro- 
visions that  would  accomplish  the  same  objective  of  elevating  in- 
dustry standards. 

The  Board  of  Trade  is  committed  first  and  foremost  to  maintain- 
ing the  integrity  of  our  markets.  In  the  past  week,  we  saw  a  dem- 
onstration of  the  depths  of  our  commitment.  As  you  know,  on  July 
11,  the  Chicago  Board  of  Trade  took  emergency  action  to  remove 
the  threat  to  an  orderly  liquidation  of  the  July  1989  soybean  fu- 
tures contract.  It  took  courage  to  take  this  action  because  we  knew 
we  would  be  criticized  by  some,  but  we  acted,  nevertheless,  because 
of  our  commitment  to  preserving  marketing  integrity  and  because 
strong,  self-r^ulatory  medicine  was  needed.  As  Secretary  of  Agri- 


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culture  Clayton  Yeutter  said,  "The  Board  of  Trade  has  nothing  to 
apoltwize  for.  Preventive  medicine  is  better  than  curative  medi- 
cine.' 

As  this  recent  episode  shows,  the  Board  of  Trade  will  not  hesitate 
to  take  decisive  action  when  needed  to  maintain  investor  confi- 
dence. We  welcome  further  discussion  on  the  soybean  issue  at  the 
conclusion  of  my  testimony. 

As  a  reflection  of  confidence  in  our  markets,  investors  are  par- 
ticipating in  futures  mtu'kets  at  ever  increiising  levels.  Over  tibe 
last  4  years,  the  Chicago  Board  of  Trade  volume  has  grown  by  92 
percent.  During  that  eame  time  period,  foreign  futures  exchange 
volume  increased  by  over  226  percent.  Foreign  countries  are 
waking  up  to  futures  trading  and  to  economic  and  social  benefits 
that  futures  trading  provides. 

Even  though  U.S.  futures  industry  volume  has  increased  over  the 
last  4  years,  market  share  has  decreased  by  10  percent.  Foreign  fu- 
tures exchanges  now  account  for  30  percent  of  total  futures  volume 
for  exchanges  gained  in  market  share  exclusively  at  the  expense  of 
U.S.  futures  markets. 

U.S.  exchanges  do  not  have  a  monopoly  on  the  products  they 
trade.  The  Board  of  Trades  most  active  product,  U.S.  Treasury 
Bonds,  is  now  listed  for  trading  in  London,  Sidney,  Singapore,  and 
will  be  traded  later  this  year  by  the  Tokyo  Stock  Bxctumge.  lie 
Chicago  Mercantile  Exchange's  most  successfiil  product,  Eurodol* 
lare,  is  traded  in  London,  Singapore,  emd  now  the  Tokyo  Financial 
Futures  Exchange.  Our  products  and  our  success  are  the  envy  of 
the  world. 

Why  do  we  cite  foreign  competition?  Many  industries  have  come 
before  Congress  to  ask  for  protection  from  foreign  competition.  We 
seek  no  such  protection.  We  ask  only  that  you  not  inhibit  our  abili- 
ty to  compete  with  these  growing  markets.  The  U.S.  futures  mar- 
kets are  already  the  most  neavily  regulated  in  the  world. 

We  reo^nize  the  competition  facing  U.S.  financial  markets.  In 
the  Far  East,  virtually  unlimited  capital  is  available.  At  the  same 
time,  European  countries  are  uniting  economically  to  develop  a 
true  common  market  in  1992.  The  European  community  recogaaeB 
the  formidable  economic  position  of  its  international  competitors, 
and  is  tfiking  steps  to  meet  those  challenges. 

Faced  vnth  these  trends,  the  U.S.  futures  industry  has  taken 
measures  to  strengthen  our  markets  in  a  cost  efHcient  way.  In 
today's  environment,  we  are  attempting  to  create  a  unified  fi-ont  to 
manage  our  future  direction. 

The  Chicago  Board  of  Trade  and  the  Chicago  Mercantile  Ex- 
change recently  announced  that  discussions  would  begin  in  an  at- 
tempt to  unify  Globex  and  Aurora,  the  computerized  trading  sys- 
tems developed  by  each  exchange.  By  creating  a  unified  trading 
system,  we  believe  that  we  can  lower  the  cost  of  doing  business  to 
market  participants,  making  us  more  competitive  witn  the  rest  of 
the  world. 

The  Chicago  Board  of  Trade  and  the  Chicago  Mercantile  Ex- 
change recently  also  agreed  to  unify  their  electronic  audit  trail,  tiie 
Computerized  Trade  Reconstruction  System,  combining  the  best  of 
the  Board  of  Trade  system  with  the  best  of  the  CMKs  approach, 
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In  addition,  the  Board  of  Trade  and  the  Mercantile  Ebichange 
have  agreed  to  unify  their  existing  computerized  surveillance  pro- 
grams, CATS  by  the  Mercantile  Exchange,  CTR  Plus  by  the  Board 
of  Trade. 

The  unified  system  will  review  100  percent  of  trading  activity  at 
both  exchanges.  No  trade  will  escape  the  exchanges'  computerized 
microscope.  As  a  result,  both  exchemges  will  operate  a  new  and  im- 
proved audit  trcul  and  surveillance  to  detect  those  trading  viola- 
tions that  are  attributable  to  dual  trading  as  well  as  other  types  of 
potentiaJ  trading  abuses. 

Moreover,  the  subcommittee  should  not  lose  sight  of  the  fact  that 
the  existing  Board  of  Trade  audit  trail  and  surveillance  capabilities 
already  meets  the  highest  standards.  As  U.S.  Attorney  Anton  Valu- 
kas  has  publicly  stated,  "They — the  Board  of  Trade — have  the  re- 
sources to  identify  trading  practices  in  which  fraud  has  occurred." 

T^e  Board  of  Trade  has  already  passed  new  regulations  in  a 
number  of  areas.  Our  audit  trail  is  becoming  tighter  with  new  time 
stamping  systems  and  nEirrower  timing  reqmrements.  Computer 
surveillance  has  been  uwraded.  Surveillance  personnel  have  been 
increased  by  more  than  30  percent  in  order  to  adequately  handle 
the  task  at  hand.  New  rules  and  broker  associations  and  opening 
and  closing  procedures  have  been  passed.  Both  the  Board  of  Trade 
and  the  Mercantile  Exchange  are  implementing  new  technological 
innovations,  including  the  advent  of  electronic  audit  delivery  ^s- 
tems  which  will  insure  that  customer  orders  have  the  most  accu- 
rate audit  trail  possible. 

In  summary,  the  Board  of  Trade  already  has  taken  steps  to 
insure  enhanced  customer  confidence  in  our  markets  which  will 
strengthen  our  ability  to  provide  liquid  and  fair  trading  markets  to 
the  world. 

As  I  mentioned  earlier,  we  support  many  provisions  in  H.R.  2869. 
We  applaud  the  l^islation's  primary  objective  to  insure  good, 
clean,  honest  markets.  However,  we  recommend  that  certain  provi- 
sions be  modified  in  order  to  permit  the  efficient  functioning  of 
U.S.  futures  markets  to  continue. 

First,  we  oppose  the  provisions  in  H.R.  2869  that  would  ban  dual 
trading.  We  believe  there  is  a  way  to  preserve  the  benefits  of  dual 
trading  whUe  also  protecting  agfunst  a  potential  for  abusive  trad- 
ing practices.  This  proposal  eliminates  the  benefits  of  broker  trad- 
ing without  considering  the  cost  inherent  in  doing  so.  We  strongly 
recommend  that  a  cost  benefit  analysis  be  prepared  r^arding  Uie 
specifics  of  this  proposal  before  it  is  legislated. 

Mr.  Chairman,  I  think  we  can  all  agree  that  dual  trading,  per  se, 
is  not  bad.  In  fact,  dual  trading  contributes  significantly  to  market 
liquidity.  What  is  bad  is  when  brokers  front  run  customer  orders  to 
gain  a  financial  advantage.  To  address  that  misconduct,  the  Board 
of  Trade  and  other  exchanges  have  had  rules  on  their  books  that 
prohibit  brokers  from  trEiding  ahead  of  customer  orders.  Any 
member  violating  that  prohibition  faces  a  full  range  of  exchfuige- 
imposed  penalties  from  Substantial  fines  to  expulsion. 

Moreover,  any  approach  to  the  topic  of  dual  trading  must  be  con- 
sistent and  comprehensive.  This  proposal  only  addresses  floor  trad- 
ing. The  Presidential  task  force  on  market  mechanisms,  known 
commonly  aa  the  Brady  Commission,  found  that  "the  markets  for 


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stocks,  stock  index  futures,  and  stock  options  are  in  fact  one 
market."  Therefore,  to  address  the  dual  trading  question  prnierly, 
a  review  of  all  dual  trading  on  exchange  floors  and  off  exchange 
floors  both  in  futures  and  securities  as  well  as  the  ultimate  diul 
trader— the  specialist — should  be  required.  As  currently  provided, 
this  propoeal  does  not  foster  a  level  r^ulatory  playing  field.  Off- 
floor  dual  trading  would  permit  eui  FCM  or  its  employees  to  front 
run  customer  orders.  Nothing  in  this  proposal  addressee  this  possi- 
ble abuse. 

Demonstrating  another  inconsistency  in  this  proposal,  the  CFTC, 
on  Monday  of  this  week,  approved  the  trading  of  commodify 
SWAPS  without  any  Government  oversight.  SWAre  are  direct  sub- 
stitutes for  futures  contracts.  Those  who  engage  in  commodity 
SWAPS  will  be  permitted  to  dual  trade  completely  outside  the  rw- 
ulatory  oversight  of  the  CFTC  or  of  this  committee.  RR.  2869  wm 
not  touch  this  unr^ulated  market  where  dual  trading  will  occur 
r^mlarly. 

The  proposal  to  ban  dual  trading  will  adversely  affect  the  liquidi- 
ty of  futures  markets,  particularly  so,  agricultural  markets,  m  in- 
creasing the  cost  of  doing  business.  The  pricing  impact  on  U.S.  ag- 
ricultural futures  markets  will  also  adversely  impact  the  pricing  oC 
physical  agricultund  products  traded  in  this  country. 

We  recognize  that  H.R.  2869  includes  certain  exemptions  from 
dual  trading  prohibitions  designed  to  permit  flexihili^  for  the 
CI*  1*0  on  a  contract-by-contract  basis.  In  effect,  however,  before  the 
CFTC  can  use  these  powers,  the  markets  must  be  illiquid  and  po- 
tentially irreparably  harmed. 

H.R.  2869  also  exempts  any  Board  of  Trade  from  the  trading  pro> 
hibition  if  its  audit  trail  is  nilly  verifiable  and  can  detect  any  and 
all  abuses.  However  laudable,  this  standard  is  unattainable  m  the 
real  world.  The  imposition  of  this  perfect  standard  would  bring  our 
business  to  a  heilt.  We  believe  that  a  more  realistic  approach  would 
be  to  exempt  any  Board  of  Trade  from  the  dual  trading  ban  if  the 
CFTC  concludes  that  the  Board  of  Trades  audit  trail  and  surveil- 
lance systems  provide  for  the  effective  detection  of  statutory  and 
r^ulatory  prohibitions. 

With  respect  to  the  audit  trail  proposal,  we  again  find  the  otrieo- 
tive  of  the  bill's  dreifters  laudable.  No  exchange  in  the  world  has 
demonstrated  a  greater  commitment  to  the  implementation  and 
usage  of  advanced  technology  in  its  audit  trail  svstem.  In  the  ab- 
sence of  a  definition  of  veritable,  we  believe  a  SO-second  standard 
should  be  a  goal  since  it  is  not  achievable  with  current  technology. 
We  suggest  a  more  flexible  approach  which  would  permit  the  ex- 
changes to  work  with  the  CFTC  to  resesuch  and  develop  technologi- 
cal enhancements  to  the  audit  trail  rather  than  l^islating  stand- 
ards. 

Finally,  with  respect  to  make-up  of  disciplinary  committees,  the 
current  proposal,  contraiy  to  the  fundamental  premise  of  our 
system  of  justice  would  dictate  that  an  accused  member  not  be 
tried  by  a  jury  of  his  peers.  Disciplinary  hearings  are  extremely  se- 
rious matters.  This  proposal  severely  ELpTects  the  rights  of  the  indi* 
viduals  involved.  As  U.S.  Attorney  Anton  Valukas  recently  stated, 
"In  my  estimation,  based  on  my  own  expertise  in  the  area,  the  best 
experte  in  the  world  concerning  trading  practices  are  the  members 


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of  the  Board  of  Trade."  This  statement  was  made  while  the  allied 
undercover  investigation  was  supposedly  going  on. 

In  summary,  Mr.  Chairman,  we  CEin  endorse  many  provisions  in 
this  bill,  but  others  may  have  serious  and  irreparable  adverse 
rcmiifications  on  the  liquidity,  pricing,  and  operation  of  U.S.  fu- 
tures markets. 

We  will  be  happy  to  work  with  this  committee  to  develop  effec- 
tive legislation  for  the  r^ulation  of  U.S.  futures  markets.  We 
share  this  committee's  concern  to  uphold  the  integrity  of  our  mar- 
kets and  maintain  continued  customer  and  investor  confidence.  We 
must  stress  to  this  committee  that  the  U.S.  futures  markets  are  the 
best  regulated  in  the  world,  and  as  such  are  the  envy  of  our  foreign 
competitors.  We  cannot  afford  to  hand  our  markets  to  those  com- 
petitors. Unless  we  are  careful  in  the  crafting  of  this  bUl,  we  will 
tilt  the  regulatory  playing  field  in  their  direction. 

Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman. 

[The  prepared  statement  of  Mr.  Mahlmann  appears  at  the  con- 
clusion of  the  hearing.] 

Mr.  English.  Thank  you  very  much,  Mr.  Mahhnann.  I  appreci- 
ate that. 

It  would  appear,  in  going  through,  I  was  taking  note  of  the  fact 
that  it  would  appear,  with  the  exception  of  the  disciplinary  com- 
mittee question,  that  the  general  disagreement— generally  speak- 
ing— the  disagreement  with  this  legislation  has  more  to  do  with  de- 
grees than  it  does  with  regard  to  the  objective  iteelf,  the  question 
how  far  can  we  go,  how  much  can  we  accomplish. 

Would  you  agree  that  that  is  the  basis  for  the  disagreement  at 
this  point? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  Mr.  Chairman,  as  I  have  stated  in  my  written 
testimony  that  I  just  read,  we  wholeheartedly  agree  with  the  goal 
of  the  committee  Emd  with  the  proposal  in  the  bill.  It  is  a  question 
of  degree  and  how  do  we  get  there  without  impacting  the  liquidity 
of  the  marketplace,  but  at  the  same  time  detecting  virtually  all 
abuses;  "any  and  all,"  that's  difficult. 

Mr.  English.  Let  me  speak  to  that  at  this  particular  point.  "Die 
provision  of  "any  and  all '  is  subject  to  definition.  I  think  the  real 
question  is  the  issue  of  whether  this  legislation  is  going  to  encour- 
age through  a  carrot  and  stick  approach,  and  many  within  in  the 
futures  industry  have  stated  that  they  thought  that  that  approach 
is  a  proper  one,  the  question  of  how  far  can  we  go,  what  kind  of 
standards  can  we  expect. 

This  subcommittee  has  not,  and  of  course  we  will  as  we  move 
through  the  legislative  process  define  exactly  what  that  means.  We 
deeply  appreciate  and  look  forward  to  working  with  the  Board  of 
Trade  in  reaching  a  definition  that  quite  frankly  is  ambitious  but 
by  the  same  token  obtainable. 

So,  we  do  look  forward  to  working  with  you  on  that,  and  we  ap- 
preciate  the  offer  of  helping  us  in  that  matter,  and  we  will  be  call- 
ing on  you  without  question  on  that.  So  that  is  deeply  appreciated. 

Let  me  state  that  there  have  been  a  number  of  questions  with 
r^ard  to  the  issue  of  the  action  taken  last  week  by  the  Board  of 
Trade  pertaining  to  soybeans.  I  have  two  questions.  The  first  one  is 
the  question  given  the  existing  situation  in  the  market — in  the  soy- 


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bean  market— is  it  possible  that  the  Board  of  Trade  may  have  to 
take  some  more  action  next  month? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  Mr.  Chairman,  the  Board  of  Trade,  through  ita 
committees  and  through  its  staff  in  the  office  of  audits  and  investi- 
gationa  is  daily  monitoring  the  August  contract  which  is  now  the 
nearby  delivery  month.  I  strongly  hope,  as  the  chairman  of  the  ex- 
change, that  similar  action  will  not  be  necessary. 

Mr.  Enoush.  But  it  cannot  be  ruled  out. 

Mr.  Mahluann.  I  cannot  state  that  it  will  not  be. 

Mr.  EbfOLiSH.  OK,  that  is  very  good.  I  appreciate  that. 

The  next  question  is  one  that  we  addressed  to  the  CFTC  when 
Chairman  Gramm  appeared  before  us  on  Tuesday,  and  that  gets 
into  the  question  of  the  decisions  or  the  action  that  led  up  to  this 
decision  and  the  involvement  of  the  CFTC.  As  the  law  stands  now, 
of  course  the  CFTC  has  the  authority,  should  they  disagree  with 
the  action  of  the  Board  of  Trade,  to  overrule  that  action,  out  there 
is  nothing  in  the  law  as  it  stands  now  for  the  CFTC  to,  in  efibct, 
respond  in  the  affirmative  unless  they  so  desire. 

Several  members  of  this  committee  made  the  point,  and  I  think 
rather  forcefully,  that  given  the  fact  the  CFTC  was  notified  in  ad- 
vance of  this  decision  being  Emnounced  that  no  statement,  no  re- 
sponse is  tantamount  to  approval,  and  I  think  there  is  a  great  deal 
of  interest  in  this  subcommittee  as  to  exactly  what  involvement  tiie 
CFTC  had  in  the  decision,  and  what  was  the  interaction  between 
ihe  exchange  and  the  CFTC  on  finally  reaching  this  decision. 

Could  you  give  us  an  overview  of  exactly,  and  in  as  much  detail 
as  possible,  what  tiie  interchange,  the  interrelationship  was  be- 
tween the  CFTC  and  the  Board  of  Trade? 

Mr.  Mahlbiann.  Mr.  Chairman,  if  I  am  permitted  to  step  back 
for  a  moment  in  time,  I  will  go  back  to  approximately  the  first 
week  of  June.  We  had  just  come  through  a  May  expiration  that  we 
all  were  very  happy  that  had  got  done  by  the  skin  of  our  teeth,  but 
it  did  get  done  without  any  emei^ncy. 

E^ren  through  that  time,  we  were  in  daily  contact,  and  firom  then 
on  forward,  with  r^ard  to  the  July  contract,  we  were  in  daily  con- 
tract with  the  Commodity  Futures  Trading  Commission,  both  at 
the  staff  level  and  from  chairman  to  chairman,  and  there  was  inti- 
mate dialog,  going  on  into  the  emergency  action  that  the  Board  of 
Trade  took  from  myself  to  Chairman  Granmi  on  an  almost  daily 


Mr.  English.  With  this  interaction,  this  daily  contact  I 
you  and  the  chairman  and  between  other  members  of  the  Board  of 
Trade,  and  I  assume  other  members  of  the  staff  of  the  CFFC,  per- 
haps other  Commissioners,  did  the  Board  of  Trade  at  any  time 
mfike  fmy  recommendations  or  did  the  CFTC  make  any  recommen- 
dations to  the  Board  of  Trade  contrary  to  the  decision  that  the 
Board  of  Trade  took? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  Mr.  Chairman,  the  CFTC  arrived  independmt^ 
of  the  Board  of  Trade  on  the  same  day  at  the  identical  conclusion 
that  the  Chicago  Board  of  Trade  Board  arrived  at  in  its  special 
board  meeting  of  the  afternoon  of  July  11.  The  CFTC,  independent- 
ly of  the  exchange,  determined  that  there  was  a  thriaat  to  orderly 
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the  same  decision  that  the  Board  of  Trade  board  arrived  at  on  the 
afternoon  of  July  11. 

The  actions  that  were  then  taken  by  the  two  parties  vary  to 
some  d^ree  and  are  identical  to  another  degree,  if  I  may  elabo- 
rate. 

Mr.  English.  Please  do. 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  The  Commission  in  coming  to  the  decision  that 
a  threat  of  orderly  liquidation  existed  came  fco  the  conclusion  that 
it  notified  a  single  market  participant  that  effective  the  close  of  3 
days  before  the  expiration  of  the  contract  its  anticipatory  hedge  ex- 
emption from  speculative  limits  would  be  revoked. 

Putting  it  into  plain  english,  it  said  the  major  market  participant 
on  the  long  side,  singly  l^  himself  had  to  come  down  to  3  million 
bushels  as  of  the  close  of  the  18th.  The  Commission  so  notified  the 
market  participant. 

The  Chicago  Board  of  Trade  board,  on  input  and  advice,  and 
seeking  of  help  from  the  business  conduct  committee,  addressed  the 
same  issue  on  July  11  at  2:15  in  the  afternoon.  The  Chiceigo  Board 
of  Trade  board  independently  reached  the  conclusion  that  there 
was  a  threat  to  the  orderly  liquidation  of  a  contract,  that  if  it  was 
not  addressed  could  leeid  to  the  potential  default  of  the  contract. 

The  Board  of  Trade  boEird  then,  in  its  order,  acted  acrtss  the 
market,  meaning  market  neutral,  not  against  a  single  participant 
but  market  neutral  against  fill  market  pEU*ticipant8  msofar  as  any- 
body that  held  in  excess  of  3  million  bushels,  whether  it  weis  hedge 
or  not,  was  not  the  deciding  factor,  was  not  a  material  factor.  The 
concern  was  orderly  liquidation. 

Therefore,  anybody  with  positions  in  excess  of  3  nullion  bushels 
had  to  reduce  those  positions  in  a  gradual  step  way,  20  percent  per 
day,  down  to  a  figure  of  no  more  than  3  million  bushels  as  of  the 
close  of  July  18. 

The  end  position  on  July  18  in  the  Board  of  Trade's  order  and 
the  CFTC  order  are  identical.  The  Board  of  Trade's  order  ^plied  to 
all  market  participants,  whether  long  or  short.  The  BoEird  of 
Trade's  order  incorporated  gradual  steps.  The  Board  of  Trade's 
order  was  taken  ever  mindful  of  our  obligation  to  have  orderlv 
markets,  and  particularly  so,  orderly  liquidation,  and  it  did  not  ad- 
dress a  single  market  participant. 

The  Board  of  Trade  order,  in  its  final  step,  at  the  expiration  of 
fibout  45  minutes  ago,  also  included  a  provision  that  no  market 
participant  could  go  off  the  board,  meaning,  have  a  position  open 
after  the  final  bell  of  trfiding  in  excess  of  1  million  bushels. 

But  yes,  both  parties,  regulator  and  the  market,  took  independ- 
ent actions  along  the  same  lines. 

Mr.  English.  Mr.  Coleman. 

Mr.  Coleman.  I  am  going  to  go  over  the  same  ground  a  little  bit 
with  you  for  emphasis.  First  of  all,  this  intimate  communication 
that  occurred  between  the  Exchange  and  the  Commission  started 
back  in  early  June;  correct? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  Congressman,  it  started  before  that  on  the  May 
contract.  With  regard  to  the  July  contract,  in  early  June,  yes. 

Mr.  Coleman.  In  early  June.  And  was  that  primarily  conducted 
betvraen  you  as  chairman  and  Dr.  Gramm  as  chairman,  or  were 
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Mr.  Mahlmann.  The  staff  of  our  office  of  audits  and  investiga- 
tions and  the  stafT  of  the  Commiasion  were  as  well  in  daily  contact. 

Mr.  CoLKMAN.  And  during  such  periods  of  time,  do  you  feel  and 
is  there  a  confidentiality  issue  involved  to  the  extent  that  you  do 
not  share  that  information  with  others? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  There  is  very  much  a  confidentiality  issue  in- 
volved. Our  office  of  audits  and  investigations  is  ever  mindful  of 
that  obligation  that  they  have  as  staff  members  of  the  exchange, 
and  so  am  I  as  chairman. 

Mr.  CoLRBiAN.  So  I  would  take  it  that  other  than  yourself,  there 
was  no  other  board  member  who  was  involved  with  or  familiar 
with  or  was  related  to  any  information  regarding  this? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  The  only  piu-ticipants  knowledgeable  in  the 
dialog  were  the  two  gentlemen  sitting  to  my  left:  General  counsel 
of  the  exchange  and  vice  president  of  the  audits  and  investigataons 
department.  No  boEU*d  membe'*  was  knowledgeable. 

Mr.  Coleman.  I  am  sony?  No? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  No  board  member  was  knowledgeable. 

Mr.  Coleman.  Now,  the  CFTC — I  am  not  sure  what  we  are  going 
to  call  this.  The  CFTC  informs  a  m^or  participant,  your  statement 
said:  Was  that  through  an  informal  proceeding,  to  your  knowledge, 
or  was  there  an  order  issued?  How  would  you  characterize  this 
communication? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  They  directed  the  mayor  participant  in  writing 
that  his  previously  granted  hedge  exemption  would  be  revoked  for 
the  last  3  trading  days  of  the  July  contract. 

Mr.  Coleman.  Did  they  inform  you  of  this  action  prior  to  ita 
being  taken? 

Mr.  Mahlkiann.  No.  They  informed  me  after  they  had  taken  it. 

Mr.  Coleman.  Had  you  been  in  discussion  with  them  about  a 
possibility  of  some  action  being  taken,  eind  weis  this  one  of  the  al- 
tematives  that  had  been  discussed? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  Congressman,  we  had  been  in  daily  discuasions 
of  what  edtemative  steps  could  be  taken.  They  did  not  discuss  what 
they  would  do  with  me. 

Mr.  Coleman.  Under  the  circumstances,  and  while  this  is  an  un- 
usual circumstance,  is  it  your  feeling  or  is  it  your  opinion  that  the 
Commission  was  to  give  the  excheinge  the  nrst  right  to  move  in 
such  a  case?  Or  do  you  feel  that  you — I  mean,  who  was  waiting  for 
whom  to  move  here?  I  guess  that  s  the  question. 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  Congressmfui,  I  have  to  take  you  back  to  the 
chronological  event  of  now  the  last  occurrence  occurred.  Withibi 
the  exchange,  the  monitoring  of  orderly  markets,  emd  particular^ 
so  the  monitoring  of  an  expiring  futures  contract,  is  delegated  to 
the  business  conduct  committee.  The  business  conduct  committee  is 
a  swom-in  committee  by  oath  to  keep  the  secrecy  of  any  item  that 
came  before  them  on  any  issue,  and  they  standardly  go  through  the 
procedure  of  recusal,  and  having  been  asked  for  a  recusal  if  there 
is  luiy  pEuty  involved  in  a  particulfu*  commodity. 

That  committee  has  been  continuously  monitoring  the  July  con- 
tract. At  various  instances  through  the  month  of  June  and  into 
July  did  this  committee  call  in  market  participante,  both  long  and 
short,  and  reminded  them  of  their  obligation  to  effect  orderlyliqui* 
dation  of  a  futures  contract.  At  the  last  meeting  prior  to  the  deci- 


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sion,  the  business  conduct  committee  instructed  a  major  partici- 
pant that,  under  its  obligation  to  orderly  liquidate  positions,  it 
would  have  to  do  so  on  a  daily  basis  in  a  reasonable  fashion.  And 
the  committee  told  the  mayor  market  petrticipant — and  this  meet- 
ing occurred  on  July  6  and  was  followed  up  by  a  letter  of  those  in- 
structions on  July  7 — that  the  committee  would  deem  3  million 
bushels  a  day  reasonable  liquidation. 

The  committee  eJbo  notined  the  major  market  participant  if  the 
participant  would  not  abide  by  the  guideline  and  directive  given  to 
it  by  the  business  conduct  committee,  the  business  conduct  commit- 
tee, seeing  that  it  had  no  powers  themselves  to  effect  liquidation 
within  the  rule  structure,  would  have  to  present  to  the  board  the 
CEise  that  they  deemed  emergency  action  in  order  to  ensure  orderly 
liquidation  would  be  necessary. 

The  business  conduct  committee  monitored  for  2  days  the  action 
of  the  major  participant,  and  when  they  did  not  find  adherence  to 
the  proposed  guideUneB  that  they  had  given — meaning  3  million 
per  day  liquidation — at  that  point  the  business  conduct  committee 
recommended  to  the  board  to  tfike  emergency  action. 

Mr.  Coleman.  Well,  my  question  is:  Should  there  be  some  sort  of 
structured  process  by  which  the  Commission  on  its  own  not  only 
could  have  but  should  have  made  these  decisions  emd  acted  prior  to 
what  you  have  just  related  to  me  by  the  exchange? 

Mr.  Mahluamn.  Congressman,  I  believe  that  the  exchange,  being 
intimately  involved  in  the  marketplace  and  monitoring  on  a  daily 
basis,  is  a  better  judge  of  whether  an  emergency  exists  or  not. 

Mr.  Coleman.  And  even  though  the  Commission  had  concluded 
the  same  thing,  how  did  they  conclude  that,  other  than  based  upon 
information  that  you  gave  them? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  Congressman,  I  can  comment  on  the  Board  of 
Trade's  conclusions.  I  cannot  comment  on  the  CommisBion's  conclu- 
sions of  how  they  Eurrived  there. 

Mr.  Coleman.  But  any  information  that  they  received  would 
have  had  to  have  been  relayed  by  you?  Or  how  would  they  have 
determined  that? 

Mr.  Mahlbiiann.  Congressman,  I  presume  the  Commission  and 
its  stfifT  also  draws  its  knowledge  from  independent  sources. 

Mr.  Coleman.  And  when  we  have  an  information  letter,  I  guess 
we  will  call  it,  from  the  CFTC  that  basically  required  this  mQJor 
market  participant  to  do  the  same  thing  that  you  ordered  them  to 
do:  What  is  the  difference  as  far  as  the  effectiveness  goes  of  what  a 
Government  commission  tells  somebody  to  do — which  apparently 
tiiey  were  not  paying  attention  to  because  you  had  to  then  follow 
up  with  some  sort  of  action  on  your  own?  Is  that  correct? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  The  two  fictions  occurred  independently  of  each 
other  on  the  same  day. 

Mr.  Coleman.  On  the  same  day. 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  Yes.  But  with  respect  to  your  comment  on  the 
difference  of  the  two  actions,  why  did  we  have  different  actions,  the 
Board  of  Trade's  action  applied  equally  acnws  the  market.  The 
Board  of  Trade's  action  also  incorporated  a  gradual  day-by-day  20 
percent  reduction  requirement  The  potential  <^  the  Commission's 
action  would  have  been  that  the  nu^or  market  participant,  out  of 
23  million  bushels — and  I  can  mention  the  figtue  because  it  was 


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stated  in  public  court — might  have  elected  to  sell  20  million  bush- 
els on  1  day.  I  have  no  idea  what  that  impact  would  have  been  on 
the  marketplace. 

Mr.  CoLEBiAN.  Well,  is  this  an  informal  rule  as  far  as  having  the 
participant  know  that  they  are  going  to  have  to  liquidate  iheii  po- 
sition? Is  there  an  exchange  rule,  or  is  this  an  informal  rule? 

Mr.  Mahlbiann.  The  Commission  has  its  own  rule,  and  the 
Board  of  Trade  has  its  right  in  its  charter  and  bylaws  under  emer- 
gency action. 

Mr.  Coleman.  That  is  your  authority? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  So  both  parties  have  the  authority. 

Mr.  CoLEHAN.  Yes.  Well,  the  story  in  this  morning's  Wall  Street 
Joumfd  characterizes  this  as  a  violation  of  an  unwritten  rule  of  tiie 
Board  of  Trade.  Is  it,  in  fact,  an  unwritten  rule,  or  is  it  a  written 
rule? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  The  Wall  Street  Journal  must  be  referring — 
and  I  can  only  speculate  on  that — to  the  job  awning  which  is  the 
only  thing  that  the  business  conduct  committee  Cfin  do.  The  Board 
itself  under  rule  180  of  our  exchange  has  the  emergency  poweni 
rule  that  can  mandate  market  peirticipants  what  to  do  in  order  to 
achieve  orderly  liquidation  of  a  contract,  which  is  in  turn  demand- 
ed of  us  under  the  Commodity  Exchange  Act. 

Mr.  Coleman.  All  right.  Thank  you. 

Mr.  ENGLISH.  Mr.  Combest. 

Mr.  CoMBBST.  No  questions. 

Mr.  ENGLISH.  Mr.  Tallon. 

Mr.  Tallon.  Mr.  Chairman,  thank  you. 

Mr.  Mahlmann,  I  believe  you  testified  that  100  percent  audit 
trail  that  would  detect  any  and  all  abuses  would  be  an  imponibil- 
ity  for  you  to  have  in  place,  that  kind  of  audit  trail. 

What  is  your  accuracy  rate  with  the  audit  trail  that  you  have  at 
that  Chicago  Board  of  IVade  now? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  The  last  CFTC  review  and  substantial  steps 
have  been  taken  since  then  indicate  that  the  CFTC  finds  the  Board 
of  Trade  audit  trail  or  the  logic  that  leads  to  the  Board  of  Trade 
assignment  of  times  in  its  audit  trail  that  it  could  presume  an  88 
percent  accuracy. 

Mr.  Tallon.  The  liquidity  with  the  banning  of  dual  trading  when 
a  contract  reaches  a  volume  of  7,000  contracts  on  a  daily  basis,  the 
threat  to  liquidity  which  brings  more  stability  to  the  market  is  cer- 
tainly something  I  am  concerned  with. 

Is  this  7,000  volume  in  a  contract?  Why  isn't  that  a  mature 
liquid  contract  when  you  reach  the  7,000  volume? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  Congressman,  I  cannot  tell  you  when  a  contract 
is  mature  and  when  it  is  not  mature.  I  have  never  heard  any  crite- 
rion used  on  that  before. 

What  we  had  proposed  because  we  embraced  the  committee's 
goal  of  getting  to  good  clean,  honest  market  that  subetantially 
detect  virtually  every  abuse  that  there  is.  The  exchange  just  ap- 
proached, if  it  can  offer  that  to  the  committee,  would  be  that  an 
audit  trail  through  computer  technolt^y  and  surveillance  systems 
through  computer  technology  that  reach  as  a  nearby  soaL  a  90 
standard  and  then  as  additional  technology  becomes  available  that 


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that  goal  be  increased,  that  that  be  the  measure  rather  then  the 
contract  volume. 

Contract  volumes  change.  One  contract  can  be  liquid  today,  illiq- 
uid tomorrow.  We  think  that  is  a  better  implementation  rather 
than  taking  the  liquidity  which  dual  trading  prevents  out  of  a  mar- 
ketplace. 

Mr.  Tallom.  You  think  you  could  reach  a  90  percent  iiccuracy 
rate  in  18  months? 

Mr.  Mahlhamn.  I  strongly  believe  so. 

Mr.  Tallon.  You  mentioned  off-floor  dual  trading.  I  guess  you 
were  talking  about  people  like  a  futures  merchant  or  brokerage 
house  receiving  orders.  Certainly  in  the  securities  market,  certain- 
ly specialists  on  the  New  York  Stock  Exchange.  I  believe  you  said 
they  were  the  ultimate  dual  trader  in  the  things  that  we  would 
have  jurisdiction  over  or  direct  the  CFTC  to  look  at. 

What  kind  of  job  in  just  those  areas  like  a  futures  merchant 
where  orders  come  into  brokerage  house,  what  kind  of  job  has  this 
bill  done  in  addressing  any  possible  or  potential  abuse  of  dual  triid- 
ing? 

Mr.  Mahlhann.  Congressman,  it  is  my  feelmg  that  this  bill  has 
singled  out  on-exchange  dual  trading  only.  It  has  not  addressed 
dusJ  trading  if  it  is  taken  in  the  same  vein  as  a  broker  trading  for 
himself  and  for  his  customer.  That  can  occur  off-exchange,  that  can 
occur  in  the  futures  industry,  that  can  occur  on  the  securities  in- 
dustry, that  can  occur  upstairs  on  private  trading  desks,  and  that 
can  occur  on  the  New  York  Stock  Exchange  within  the  specialists, 
and  it  can  occur  not  only  in  the  CFTC  regulated  industry,  it  can 
occur  in  the  SEC  regulated  industry. 

So  my  view  is  that  H.R.  2869  only  addresses  this  on  exchange 
floors  while  leaving  all  the  other  industries  untouched  in  its  au&- 
torial  requirement,  and  I  submit  to  this  committee  that  would  put 
exchange  floors  on  a  tougher  standard  than  either  another  indus- 
try or  any  other  part  of  the  industry. 

Mr.  Tallon.  Are  you  saying  that  maybe  even  a  real  estate 
broker  is  a  dual  trader  or  an  insurance  agent  or  a  banker? 

Kb.  Mahliiiann.  They  all  can  be. 

Mr.  Tallon.  How  many  people  do  you  have  authorized  to  trade 
on  the  Chicago  Board  of  Trade  now? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  Congressman,  we  have  approximately  3,500 
members. 

Mr.  Tallon.  What  percentage  or  how  many  of  those  3,500  mem- 
bers  are  actively  participating  or  are  quEilified  dual  traders? 

Mr.  Mahlhann.  I  cannot  give  you  an  accurate  number  on  the 
number  of  members.  I  can  give  you  an  estimation  of  preliminary 
results  of  trading  volume  that  occurs  on  our  exchange  that  is  done 
by  dual  traders.  As  I  indicated,  it  is  preliminary,  but  it  looks  like  it 
could  be  as  much  as  20  percent  of  our  volume  of  contritcts  that  are 
traded  on  the  exchange  could  be  done  by  brokers  that  also  trade 
for  their  own  account. 

Mr.  Tallon.  To  your  knowledge,  how  many  times  has  the  Justice 
Department  brought  criminal  penalties  against  any  floor  triiderB 
on  the  Chicago  Board  of  Trade  for  specifically  tramng  ahead  of  a 
customer? 


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Mr.  Mahucann.  I  would  have  to  ask  my  general  counsel  because 
I  do  not  know  of  any. 

He  is  not  aware  of  any,  either. 

Mr.  Tallon.  How  would  you  view  this  Iwislation  if  criminal  pen- 
alties were  included  in  for  trading  ahead  of  a  customer? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  Congreseman,  the  exchange  right  now  has 
within  its  rules  a  prohibition  of  trading  ahead  m  a  customer  order. 
I  think  it  is  up  to  this  committee  if  it  elects  to  include  that  into  the 
act.  We  have  that  as  a  rule  already. 

Mr.  Tallon.  Thank  you.  My  time  is  up. 

Mr.  English.  Ms.  Long. 

Ms.  Long.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman.  

Mr.  Mahlmann,  in  your  testimony,  you  indicated  that  the  C^TC 
came  to  the  same  conclusion  that  you  came  to,  that  the  board  came 
to  at  approximately  the  same  time  on  July  11. 

Why  do  you  think  that  the  board  is  better  equipped  to  identify  a 
potential  emergency  or  real  emergency  and  then  to  fbUow  throuc^ 
with  the  execution  of  an  emergency  order — better  equipped  than 
theCFTC? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  The  board  and  its  staff  are  living  within  the 
market  place  everyday.  The  Board  <^  Trade  staff  is  monitoring  all 
the  activity  of  every  market  participant,  particularly  so  in  an  ex- 
piring option.  The  business  conduct  committee  is  in  constant  con- 
tact with  the  office  of  audits  and  investigations  of  our  staif,  and  I 
think  their  expertise — that  is  their  livelihood — lends  them  a  better 
insight  or  a  better  feeling  or  a  better  knowledge  and  prognostica- 
tion of  whether  we  have  a  potential  default  on  our  contract  or  not 
or  whether  we  have  right  now  a  potential,  very  upeet  liquidation 
process  in  the  contract. 

I  feel  strongly  that  the  members  of  the  exchange  that  are  part  of 
that  committee  to  monitor  that,  who  have  been  delegated  to  do  so 
are  the  best  equipped  to  do  so.  They  come  out  of  the  industi^. 

Ms.  Long.  How  do  you  address  the  concern  regarding  olqectivify 
that  the  CFTC  is  a  more  objective  body  than  the  board? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  As  I  indicated  before,  there  is  a  requirement, 
every  business  conduct  committee  member  has  to  adhere  to  an 
oath  of  secrecy,  every  business  conduct  committee  member  is  asked 
prior  to  any  meeting  whether  he  has  an  involvement  in  a  particu- 
mr  contract  if  that  is  up  for  discussion.  He  is  asked  to  recuse  him- 
self, and  I  believe  every  business  conduct  committee  member  as 
well  as  every  board  member  who  goes  through  the  same  procedure 
£md  has  to  (£sclose  whether  there  is  a  conflict  of  interest. 

I  think  that  is  established  beforehand  so  that  you  have  absolute 
impartiality.  I  think  it  occurred  in  this  insUmce.  I  can  state  for  this 
committee  that  the  opening  question  that  I  ask  eveiy  board 
member  when  they  came  to  the  deliberation — when  they  were 
called  for  that  meeting  before  the  issue  of  the  day  was  put  before 
them,  before  any  proposal  was  discussed,  the  opemng  question  was, 
"Do  you  own  or  control  any  July  bean  futures? 

One  party  answered  in  the  amrmative.  Iliat  party  was  inmiedi- 
ately  recused.  The  rest  of  the  board  members  in  attendance  all  an- 
swered in  the  negative. 

In  addition,  prior  to  going  into  the  board  meeting,  throu^  the 
office  of  audits  and  investigation,  did  I  know,  and  as  the  only  party 


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that  knew  whether  anybody  had  any  July  bean  position  as  of  the 
close  of  Monday  night.  And  in  addition  going  into  the  board  meet- 
ing, I  was  the  only  party  that  knew  that  the  CFTC  was  arriving  at 
an  independent  decision  that  orderly  liquidation  was  jeopardized 
before  I  asked  the  question  of  every  board  member  whether  they 
had  a  position  or  not. 

Mr.  Nagle.  Would  the  gentlelady  yield? 

On  the  question  of  the  conflict,  could  I  just  simply  ask  for  my 
own  education.  You  indicated  you  inquired  of  the  board  members 
whether  or  not  they  had  any  interest,  any,  to  quote  you,  "owned  or 
controlled  any  positions  in  July  soybeans,"  I  tun  curious  to  know 
whether  or  not  the  members  of  your  board  would  have  an  interest 
or  serve  on  the  board  of  any  other  company  who  h^  a  position  on 
July  SOTbean  futures? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  The  question  that  I  asked,  do  you  own  or  con- 
trol, and  if  they  Einswered  either  of  those  parts  with  no  or  both  of 
those  parts  no 

Mr.  Nagle.  Did  any  of  the  members  present  in  the  room  that 
voted  on  the  decision  hold  a  position  with  any  of  the  companies  or 
brokerage  houses  or  agencies  that  would  have  had  a  position  of 
July  soybean  futures?  I  mean,  for  exEunpIe,  do  you  have  any 
member  serving  on  your  board  who  is  also  a  member  of  CfU'gill,  the 
board  of  directors  of  Cargill?  That  type  of  situation?  1  am  not 
saying  that  they  do,  1  am  just  inquiring. 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  I  said  every  member  that  weis  there  answered 
in  the  negative  when  I  asked  mm  do  you  own  or  control.  If  you  are 
representative  of  a  futures  commission  house  and  you  luive  custom- 
ers potentially,  he  did  not  own  or  control  the  position  of  those  cus- 
tomers that  may  clear  through  you  as  a  futures  commission  house. 
That  is  not  a  disqualification  standard. 

Mr.  Nagle.  That  is  my  question.  You  mean  I  could  serve  on  the 
board  and  make  this  decision  and  also  be  a  member  of  a  brokerage 
house  who  had  customers  that  had  positions  that  would  be  adverse- 
ly affected  or  enhanced  by  the  decision  that  I  was  going  to  vote  on? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  That  is  correct. 

Mr.  English.  The  gentlelady's  time  hfis  expired.  The  gentleman 
is  next  to  be  recognized,  but  I  think  we  better  go  vote.  Maybe  the 
gentleman  would  like  to  rec<^nize  the  lady  in  case  she  has  anotiier 
question  since  her  time  expired. 

Ms.  Long.  No,  thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman. 

Mr.  English.  Thank  you  very  much.  We  will  recess  for  this  vote. 

[Recess  taken.] 

Mr.  English.  The  meeting  will  come  to  order.  Mr.  Nagle. 

Mr.  Nagle.  How  many  members  are  there  on  the  board? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  Twenty-four. 

Mr.  Nagle.  Is  Hal  T.  Hanson  a  member  of  the  board? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  Yes,  he  is. 

Mr.  Nagle.  And  he  is  the  president  of  Cargill  Co.? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  He  is  president  of  Cargill  Investor  Services. 

Mr.  Naqle.  Is  tliat  a  corporation  or  a  close  corporate  relationship 
to  Cargill  itself? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  I  do  not  know  the  exact  corporate  relationship 
to  Cargill. 

Mr.  Nagle.  Anybody  there  know? 


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Mr.  Gridk.  I  believe  it  is  100  percent  owned  1^  Cargill. 

Mr,  Naolb.  Silas  L.  Hathiaa,  Sr. — is  he  a  member  of  the  board? 

Mr.  Mahuiann.  Yee,  he  is. 

Mr.  Nagu.  Let  me  be  fair.  First  of  all  did  Mr.  Hanson  recuse 
himself  from  the  vote? 

Mr.  Mahlbiann.  No,  he  did  not. 

Mr.  Nagle.  Silas  L.  Hathias,  Sr. — is  he  a  member  of  the  board? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  Yea,  he  is. 

Mr.  Naols.  I  have  him  aa  the  director  of  grain  operations.  Gen- 
eralMUlfi? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  I  presume  that  is  his  correct  title. 

Mr.  Nagle.  Did  he  recuse  himself  from  the  board? 

Mr.  Mahlbiann.  No,  he  did  not. 

Mr.  Nagle.  It  would  appear  to  me  that  there  were  a  number  vS 
people — who  recused  themselves? 

Mr.  Mahlbiann.  One  local  trader  that  had  1  minute  open  posi- 
tion on  a  spread  basis  between  the  Mid-America  Commodity  Ex- 
change and  the  Board  of  Trade.  He  recused  himself. 

Mr.  Nagle.  Donald  G.  Andrew  is  a  member? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  Yes,  he  is. 

Mr.  Nagle.  And  he  is  the  senior  vice  president  with  Shearson- 
Lehman  and  Hutton? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  Yes,  he  is. 

Mr.  Nagle.  John  F.  Benjamin,  senior  vice  president  for  DrenI 
and  Bumham? 

Mr.  Mahlbiann.  Yes,  he  is. 

Mr.  Nagle.  Gary  K.  Biefelt— he  is  with  Biefelt  and  Co.? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  Yes,  he  is. 

Mr.  Nagle.  It  looks  to  me  like  people  who  work  for  Shearson- 
Lehman,  Drexel,  and  Bumham,  Biefelt  and  Co.,  Index  Futures 
Corp.  Group,  Inc.,  Hollander  and  Ferhagen — I  believe  it  is— Seay 
and  Thomas,  Heinweiber,  General  Mills,  Solomon  Brothers,  Hager 
Green  Co.,  Triple  Nickel  Trading  Co. — all  of  these  people's  compa- 
nies would  have  been  affected  if  they  held  positions  by  the  decision 
that  the  board  took;  would  that  be  fctir? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  Congressman,  as  I  indicated  before,  my  opening 
question  was:  Do  you  own  or  control?  And  all  of  those  gentlemrai 
answered  in  the  negative,  except  one  as  I  indicated  in  prior  testi- 
mony. 

Mr.  Nagle.  But  you  did  not  ask  the  question:  Are  you  employed 
by  someone  who  owns  or  controls? 

Mr.  Mahlbiann.  No,  I  did  not  ask  that  question. 

Mr.  Nagle.  So  if  you  go  back  to  the  qiiestion  I  immediately 
stated  previously,  people  who  made  this  decision  were  people  who 
worked  for  companies,  if  those  companies  held  the  position  in  the 
July  futures  who  would  have  been  adversely  affected  or  enhanced 
by  the  decision  that  the  board  would  take? 

Mr.  Mahlbiann.  All  of  those  gentlemen  made  the  statement  I 
have  no  conflict  of  interest  in  deliberating  the  issue. 

Mr.  Nagle.  I  will  ask  the  question  Eigain.  People  who  had  enor 

Sloyment  with  companies  that  if  they  held  futures  positions  on  the 
uly  soybeans,  they  would  have  been  enhanced  or  diminished  hy 
the  action  of  the  board,  voted  on  the  decision  that  was  taken  by  the 
board  that  day;  is  that  not  true? 


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Mr.  Mahlmamn.  No,  that  is  not  true. 

Mr.  Nagle.  Then  I  guess  if  you  are  working  for  Cat^l,  and  your 
company  does  not  have  any — or  to  be  precise,  if  you  worked  for  a 
company  that  is  100  percent  owned  by  Cargill — and  I  do  not  mean 
to  pick  on  Cargill  because  I  have  a  statement  from  them  here  I  will 
get  into — but  if  you  work  for  a  company  that  is  100  percent  owned 
by  Cargill,  and  Cargill  could  not  fill  its  July  futures  position,  that 
would  not  be  on  the  Boeird  of  Trade  regardless  of  conflict? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  I  do  not  understand  the  question,  Congressman. 

Mr.  Naole.  If  you  are  an  employer  it  is  good  to  benefit  by  the 
decision  you  made.  Would  that  not  nave  been  a  conflict? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  I  thuik  we  have  to  go  back  again  to  the  original 
question  I  asked.  Do  you  own  or  control,  and  that  was  einswered  in 
the  n^ative  by  each  participant. 

Mr.  Nagle.  But  you  did  not  ask  the  question,  are  you  employed 
by  someone  who  owns  or  controls? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  No,  I  did  not  ask  that  question. 

Mr.  Nagle.  Nor  did  you  ask  the  question,  or  are  you  associated 
with  an  investment  house  whose  customers  own  or  control? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  No,  I  did  not  ask  that  question  either. 

Mr.  Nagle.  Tell  me  why  working  for  someone  who  had  a  position 
would  not  have  been  a  conflict  to  meike  this  extraordinary  decision 
that  the  board  made? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  If  1  pick  on  my  fellow  board  member  Don 
Andrew  who  happens  to  be  the  vice  president  of  Shearson  that  you 
mentioned.  Shearson  may  have  customers  in  July  beans,  but  he 
neither  owns  or  controls  any  portion  of  those  accounts  and  as  a 
bofird  member  he  can,  because  he  has  no  conflict  of  interest  and 
his  customers  may  both  be  long  and  short  and  he  may  not  know 
who  they  all  are  and  what  they  have  in  positions.  He  is  in  a  posi- 
tion to  make  by  his  expertise  as  a  member  of  the  exchange  wittiout 
conflict  that  he  can  make  a  decision. 

Mr.  Nagle.  The  question  I  asked,  I  think,  frankly,  saying  it  is 
not  a  conflict  does  not  define  the  fact  that  tiiere  is  a  troublesome 
aspect  to  the  board  members  that  made  the  decision  on  behalf  of 
companies  for  which  they  were  employed  whose  interest  may  have 
been  impacted  by  the  decision  that  they  were  about  to  render. 

Who  won  and  who  lost  as  a  result  of  the  order? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  I  do  not  think  there  is  one  party  that  won;  I  do 
not  think  there  is  one  party  that  lost.  The  order  that  was  estab- 
lished was  equal  across  the  marketplace.  It  applied  to  both  longs 
and  shorts. 

Mr.  Nagle.  You  would  not  disagree  with  me  that  Ferruzzi  lost 
big? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  I  would  disagree  with  you. 

Mr.  Nagle.  Please  tell  me  why? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  I  would  first  make  a  statement  that  the  whole 
marketplace  in  itself  won  by  the  exchange  taking  firm,  independ- 
ent action  that  there  is  no  party  by  themselves  that  on  either  side 
of  the  marketplace  that  can  be  influencing  the  market. 

Mr.  Nagle.  I  do  not  mean  to  quarrel,  but  let  me  refine  it.  Then 
who  suffered  a  financial  loss  as  a  result  of  the  board's  action? 
Would  Ferruzzi  be  one  of  those  people  that  suffered  an  immediate 
n^ative  financial  impact  as  a  result  of  that? 


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Mr.  Mahlmann.  Conffreflsman,  we  are  alflo  in  a  potential  lawsuit 
that  ifi  atill  pending  before  Judge  Zagle  in  Federal  court  in  Chicago 
waiting  for  amendments.  I  cannot  make  a  comment  right  now 
whether  Pernizzi  lost  monev  or  not  lost  money. 

Mr.  Nagle.  Can  you  tell  me  whether  or  not  Ferrum  is  suing 
you? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  They  are  suing  us. 

Mr.  Naglb.  Can  I  draw  a  fair  conclusion,  although  you  oould  not 
tell  me  that  if  they  are  suing  you  they  are  probably  not  very 
happy? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  I  presume  you  can  draw  that  conclusion. 

Mr.  Nagle.  How  much  are  they  suing  you  for? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  It  has  not  been  Bpecined.  They  have  been  givoi 
a  date  by  which  time  they  can  amend  their  lawsuit. 

Mr.  Naglb.  Could  you  provide  for  the  committee  a  list  of  those 
individuals  and  organizations  and  business  entities  and  corpora- 
tions and  brokerage  houses  that  benefited  financially  hy  the  deci- 
sion of  the  boeutl,  and  those  that  suffered  a  negative  impact  as  a 
result  of  the  decision  of  the  board? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  Congressman,  I  cannot  provide  that  list  to  you 
because  I  cannot  quantify  who  won  and  who  lost 

Mr.  Nagle.  The  board  does  not  have  the  resources  or  the  inibr^ 
mation  or  the  capability  to  generate  that  type  of  information? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  Congressman,  I  do  not  have  IJiat  information 
nor  does  the  board. 

Mr.  Nagle.  Incredible. 

Mr.  English.  Mr.  Gunderson. 

Mr.  GuNDBBSON.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman.  Just  one  quick 
follow-up  question  in  r^ard  to  Mr.  Neigle's  questioning.  Mr. 
Andrew,  when  the  question  was  asked  whether  you  own  or  wmtrol, 
the  answer  was  in  the  negative.  Are  you  or  is  any  other  member  of 
the  board  aware  to  the  extent  to  which  your  company  controlled 
when  decisions  like  this  were  made? 

Mr.  Andrew.  I  cannot  speak  for  the  other  companies.  I  know  in 
my  own  particulfir  case,  I  am  not  privy  to,  in  my  position,  I  am  the 
mfmeiger  of  the  floor  of  the  execution  of  the  orders.  I  am  not  in- 
volved with  the  individual  accounts  and  what  their  positions  are, 
so  I  answered  the  question. 

Mr.  Gunderson.  Is  there  some  kind  of  confidentiality  require- 
ment at  a  time  a  decision  is  made  and  announced  whidi  prevents, 
what  we  would  call  lead  information  or  inside  advantage? 

Mr.  Andrew.  Yes,  there  is.  I  wear  two  hats.  One  is  the  Board  <tf 
Trade  hat  and  the  other  is  with  the  Shearson-Lehman-Hutton,  and 
they  do  not  overlap.  They  fu:e  separate  issues  and  I  personal^ 
make  it  a  point  that  I  do  not  get  involved  into  the  position  wbere  I 
would  have  to  compromise  my  position  with  the  Board  of  Trade.  So 
they  are  both  separate. 

Mr.  Gunderson.  Let  me  change  the  focus  of  the  question  a  bit, 
because  one  of  the  issues  that  I  think  presents  the  greatest  chal- 
lenge to  us  in  the  reauthorization  and  the  preparation  for  the 
future,  espededly  if  we  do  this  in  terms  of  a  permanent  authoriza- 
tion is  the  whole  issue  of  international  exchange  or  regulation.  You 
indicate  in  your  testimony  that  there  has  been  a  foreign  futures  ex- 
change that  now  accounts  for  30  percent  of  the  total  futures 


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volume.  I  assume  you  mean  volume  here,  or  do  you  mean  volume 
worldwide? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  International  volume. 

Mr.  GuNDERSON.  What  percent  of  that  is  American  participation 
do  you  believe? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  I  can  answer  that  for  the  Board  of  Trade.  I 
cannot  answer  that  for  all  exchanges.  The  Board  of  Trade  domesti- 
cally in  the  U.S.  industry  last  yefu*  represented  about  4S.5  percent 
of  uie  industry  volume.  That  was  after  4  years  of  unprecedented 
growth,  cumulatively  about  92  percent  that  the  Board  of  Trade  had 
grown  over  one  4-year  span  or  the  most  recent  4-year  span.  During 
the  Sfune  4-year  span  with  that  kind  of  a  growth  figure,  the  Board 
of  Trade's  international  market  trade,  meaning  of  total  futures 
volume  worldwide,  declined  from  about  37  to  33  percent. 

Mr.  GuNDERSON.  Can  you  give  me  your  insight  as  to  whether  you 
believe  that  was  a  Ifick  of  particular  products  on  your  exchange  or 
isBuee  on  your  exchange  aa  opposed  to  how  much  of  that  might  be 
the  result  of  competitive  disadvantage  due  to  r^ulation?  Can  you 
give  me  some  insight  on  the  two? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  It  is  part  of  both.  Congressman.  As  I  indicated 
in  my  testimony,  for  instance,  the  U.S.  Treasury  debt  instrument  is 
probably  the  most  worldwide  spread  held  instrument  substantially 
in  Asia  as  well  as  in  Europe.  Euroj>e  already  is  treuling  a  U.S. 
Treasury  bond  contract  on  the  London  Futures  Exchange.  Tokyo 
intends  to  bring  it  up  this  fedl.  Both  ends  are  trying  to  make  an 
end  road  in  what  used  to  be  solely  our  product. 

Mr.  GuNDERSON.  To  what  degree  can  you  blame  that  on  r^;ula> 
tion?  And  if  so,  can  you  be  specific  as  to  the  regulations  now  in 
effect  which  you  believe  put  the  American  exchanges  at  a  competi- 
tive disadvantage? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  I  can  give  you  a  recap  of  a  very  recent  conver- 
sation with  one  of  the  governors  of  the  Bank  of  England.  And  we 
talked  about  the  legislative  environment  and  I  told  him  that  in  the 
foreseeable  future,  I  would  have  to  come  before  this  committee  to 
talk  about  dual  trading,  and  the  gentleman  said,  in  London  we  call 
it  single  capacity  tmd  we  used  to  be  on  that  standard.  But  we  recog- 
nize that  the  eidded  capitfil  that  dual  capacity  can  bring  to  a  mar- 
ketplace is  very  much  wemted  because  it  creates  a  better  depth  and 
liquidity  in  the  marketplace.  It  creates  closer  bid  and  ask  spreads, 
and  it  appears  to  me  that  we  are  going  the  opposite  way  than  the 
U.S.  industry  is  going. 

Mr.  GuNDERSON.  Do  you  know  of  any  foreign  exchange  that  bans 
dual  trading  or  regulates  it? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  I  do  not  know  of  any.  There  may  be  some,  but  I 
do  not  know  of  any. 

Mr.  GuNnEESON.  I  guess  my  time  is  up.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Chair- 
Mr.  English.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Gunderson.  I  have  noticed  there 
that  the  chairman  of  the  full  committee  has  joined  us.  Chairman 
de  la  Garza.  Mr.  Chairman,  do  you  have  cmy  conmients  or  ques- 
tions? 

The  Chairman.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman.  1  will  yield  my  time 
to  the  members  of  the  subcommittee. 


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Mr.  English.  Thank  you  very  much,  Mr.  Chairman.  And  we  also 
have  the  chairman  of  the  Wheat,  Soybeans,  and  Feed  Grains  Sub- 
committee. He  has  something  of  interest  on  the  soybean  issue,  I  un- 
derstand. Chairman  Glickman,  I  would  be  happy  to  recognize  you 
for  fuiy  questions  you  may  have? 

Mr.  Glickman.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman,  for  allowing  me  to  be 
here.  I  wont  to  ask  you  how  can  a  nuyor  participant  in  ^e  market 
acquire  such  a  large  position  as  Femizzi  apparently  did — how  do 
you  monitor  that  to  determine  if  they  are  in  fact  possessed  of  a  le- 
gitimate hedging  position.  For  example,  I  understand  that  the  spec 
limits  on  soybeetns  was  what? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  Three  million  bushels  per  month. 

Mr.  Glickman.  Three  million  bushels  per  month  and  at  least  it 
was  reported  that  Femizzi  stated  in  Federal  court — they  had  a 
long  position  equivalent  to  23  million  bushels  of  soybeans.  And  ac- 
cording to  the  Wall  Street  Journal  today,  this  company  is  at  war 
with  you.  I  am  not  sure  who  declared  war  against  whom,  but  I 
guess  what  concerns  me  is  that  how  do  you  make  a  Intimate  de- 
termination as  to  whether  a  comfuny  is  a  legitimate  hedger?  And 
do  you  consider  a  company  tiiat  is  at  war  with  you  a  Intimate 
hedger  on  your  market? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  Congressmcm,  no  comment  on  the  war.  On  the 
other  part  of  the  question,  Femizzi  company  and  its  affiliated  ochu- 
panies  are  wholly  owned  companies,  meaning  Central  Soya  process- 
ing companies  as  one  of  them  collectively  go  to  the  CFTC  to  seek 
an  exemptive  status  from  the  speculative  limits  and  the  CFTC 
greuits  a  hedge  exemption  to  commercuJ  market  participantB.  And 
under  the  exemptive  procedures,  the  CFTC  approved  the  hedge  ex- 
emptions for  the  Femizzi  companies.  

Mr.  Glickman.  So  not  only  did  you  approve  it,  but  CPTC  ap- 
proved it,  right? 

Mr.  Mahuhann.  Congressman,  it  is  not  in  the  Board  of  Trade's 
purview  to  approve  hedge  exemptions  for  grains.  We  requested  that 
approved  process  on  an  emergency  basis  during  the  early  part  of 
June.  We  have  it  on  an  emergency  basis  for  approximately  another 
45  days,  but  the  approval  to  establish  these  positions  was  dtme  to 
the  best  of  my  knowledge  prior  to  us  having  this  hedge  ezemptive 
procedure  approval  ourselves  for  a  very  short  limited  time,  and  the 
positions  that  we  are  talking  about  were  approved  under  the  Com- 
mission's hedge  exemption. 

Mr.  Guckman.  OK,  just  so  I  am  clear  because  I  am  getting  ccm- 
fused  now.  Who  gave  Femizzi  a  hedge  exemption  to  go  above  3  mil- 
lion bushels  of  soybeans? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  The  Commission. 

Mr.  Glickman.  When  did  they  do  that? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  I  do  not  know  a  date. 

Mr.  Guckman.  Is  it  monitored  continuously?  

Mr.  Mahlmann.  Congressman,  you  would  have  to  ask  the  CPTC 
because  this  is  hedge  exemption  granting  which  is  totally  delisted 
to  the  Commission.  This  is  for  grtiins. 

Mr.  Guckman.  Let  me  move  off  of  this  one  for  a  moment.  In 
your  statement  you  state  that  no  trade  will  escape  the  exchange's 
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Does  that  mean  that  you  will  be  able  to  determine  with  absolute 
precision  who  is  dual  trading? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  It  means  that  we  are,  under  our  surveillance 
microscope,  auditing  and  reviewing  100  percent  of  every  trade  that 
occurs.  Can  we  under  that  determine  who  trades  for  t£eir  own  ac- 
count and  for  its  customer  orders?  Yes,  we  can. 

Mr.  GuCKMAN.  Will  you  be  able  to?  See  the  implication  of  your 
statement  is  that  you  will  be  able  to  determine  with  pretty  much 
an  Ed»olute  certainty  who  is  dual  treiding,  who  is  not,  and  then 
make  the  appropriate  judgment.  Is  that  a  fair  assertion? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  That  is  a  correct  assertion. 

Mr.  GucKMAN.  At  the  current  time,  can  you  determine  who  is 
dual  trading? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  Yes,  we  can. 

Mr.  GucKMAN.  Do  you  know  how  many  traders  are,  in  fact,  trad- 
ing for  their  own  accoimts,  as  well  as  for  customer's  accounts  right 
now? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  I  do  not  have  the  number,  but  I  may  be  able  to 
rive  you  the  number  of  our  membership.  No,  I  do  not  have  it 


Mr.  Glickman.  I  think  that  would  be  useful.  Let  me  just  ask  you 
a  couple  of  other  quick  things.  SWAPS,  you  make  the  point  that 
the  CFTC  has  basically  approved  SWAP  trading  in  kind  of  an  un- 
r^istered  feishion,  bo  you  can  have  dual  trading  on  SWAPS.  Are 
you  recommending  that  we  in  fact  r^ulate  SWAPS  as  futures? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  I  strongly  recommend,  first  of  all,  that  SWAPS 
be  declared  futures  contracts.  And  that  they  fail  under  this  com- 
mittee's jurisdiction  euid  under  the  jurisdiction  of  the  Oinunission. 
So  the  emswer  is  yes  all  the  way  through. 

Mr.  Glickman.  The  final  question  goes  to  the  number  of— let  me 
just  mention  one  quick  thing.  I  think  the  point  of  Mr.  Nagle's  ques- 
tion about — did  any  of  the  people  who  were  on  your  board  work  for 
other  companies  that  might  have  had  positions — I  think  it  refers  to 
the  fact  that  it  was  clear  that  a  decision  by  the  bo£u*d  to  close  out 
these  long  positions  would  result  in  a  significant  reduction  in  the 
market  price — soybeans? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  No,  it  was  not  clear.  The  order  of  the  board  ap- 
plied to  both  long  and  short  hedgers  that  had  in  excess  of  3  million 
bushels.  It  therefore  affected  also  parties  that  had  to  cover  short 
positions. 

Mr.  GucKMAN.  Once  a  hedge  exemption  is  granted,  do  you  ever 
monitor  the  position  of  a  hedger  to  determine  how  big  the  position 
gets? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  We  monitor  positions  constantly. 

Mr.  Guckman.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman. 

Mr.  English.  Thank  you.  Mr.  Coleman. 

Mr.  Coleman.  Let  me  ask  a  question  about  the  spec  limits  that 
CPTC  provided  an  exemption  on  in  this  particular  case;  is  that  cor- 
rect? 

Mr.  Mahlkiann.  That  is  correct. 

Mr.  Coleman.  The  usual  limit  is  3  million  bushels? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  That  is  the  speculative  position  limit  that  any 
one  speculator  in  the  United  States  can  hold  in  a  sin^e  contract 
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Mr.  C^LEBCAN.  Unless  th^  receive  some  sort  of  an  exemption 
from  the  Commission? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  That  is  correct. 

Mr.  Coi^BfAN.  You  know  when  they  received  this  exemption? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  No,  I  do  not. 

Mr.  Coi^MAN.  Were  you  knowledgeable  of  this  exemption? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  Yes,  we  were. 

Mr.  Coi^MAN.  You  were  informed  or  you  just  heard  about  it?  Did 
the  Commission  inform  you? 

Mr.  Mahluann.  The  Commission  did  not  formally  inform  us. 
They  were  permitted  to  carry  that  position. 

Mr.  Coleman.  Do  you  think  that  there  should  be  some  sort  of 
rule  or  requirement  tjiat  you  be  notified  of  that? 

Mr.  MahlBiIANN.  Congressman,  I  think  the  Board  of  Trade 
action,  as  I  indicated  before  to  Congressman  Glickman  from 
Kansas,  was  that  the  Board  of  Trade  in  emeigencjr  action  request- 
ed to  have  the  jurisdiction  over  agricultural  spec  limits.  We  did  so 
in  early  June.  We  got  permission  or  our  requ^  was  granted  on  an 
emergency  basis  and  will  expire  roughly  in  45  days.  Yes,  the  ex- 
change felt  strongly  that  the  exemptive  procedure  should  also  be 
within  the  hand  of  the  exchange. 

Mr.  Coleman.  I  am  sorry  I  had  to  step  out  of  the  room,  I  did  not 
hear  what  you  were  saying. 

Mr.  Maiojaann.  I  am  sorry.  

Mr.  Coleman.  I  am  glad  you  mentioned  it.  So  the  CFTC  granted 
you  some  extraordinary  emergency 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  Only  under  our  emergency  request  were  we 
granted  the  exemptive  procedure  as  an  exchange,  but  I  strongly  be- 
lieve we  should  have  that  power  concurrently  with  the  Commis- 
sion. 

Mr.  Coleman.  How  common  is  it  to  receive  one  of  these  exemp- 
tions from  the  Commission? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  Any  commercial  user  showing  justifiable  reascm 
of  why  they  would  have  to  exceed  the  speculative  limits  can  go  to 
the  Commission  and  get  approval. 

Mr.  Coleman.  Is  it  not  common  knowledge  that  the  amount  of 
available  soyl>eans  was  considerably  less  than  23  million  budidfl? 

Mr.  Mahuiann.  It  stipulated  in  cart  that  the  amount  of  dsliver- 
able  supplies  within  the  deliverable  contract  area  attributable  to 
the  futures  contract  on  the  Board  of  Treide  was  approximately  10  to 
12  million  bushels  which  were  predominantly  ovmed  by  the  same 
party  that  owned  the  futures  contract. 

Mr.  Coleman.  Knowing  this  as  a  fact,  not  as  a  judgment,  the 
CFTC  allowed  this  exemption  to  occur  knowing  that  the  contracts 
could  not  be  fulfilled.  Is  this  an  unusual  conclusion  that  one  would 
draw  if  one  knew  the  supply  and  knew  the  position  to  allow  an  ex- 
emption? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  I  think  the  answer  would  be  no,  because  nor- 
mally you  would  expect  orderly  liquidation  of  the  contract. 

Mr.  Coleman.  Let  me  ask  a  line  of  questions  about  the  recusinK 
from  the  discussion  that  the  board  of  directors  had  on  July  11,  and 
ask  you  that  if  a  company  has  a  large  position  apparently  as  one 
did  and  in  a  market  like  this,  is  it  generally  known  on  the  floor 


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that  this  is  occurring?  Is  this  exemption  that  was  granted  by  the 
Commission  a  matter  of  public  record? 

Mr.  Mahlkiann.  It  is  not  a  matter  of  public  record. 

Mr.  Coleman.  But  generally  speaking,  do  people  sense  and  pick 
up  the  action  that  there  is  such  a  position  being  held?  Would  you 
say  this  was  common  knowledge? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  By  coffee  shop  talk,  I  would  presume  so. 

Mr.  Coleman.  And  people  on  the  floor  would  definitely  fall  into 
that  category? 

Mr.  Mahumann.  I  would  think  so. 

Mr.  Coleman.  So  my  question  would  be — and  I  am  not  suggest- 
ing that  there  is  or  was  any  wrongdoing — as  we  look  at  self-regula- 
tion and  the  questions  that  one  reuses  with  the  potential  conflict  of 
interest,  this  was  common  knowledge  that  people  could  benefit  one 
way  or  another  having  this  knowledge,  notwithstanding  that  they 
may  have  emswered  your  question  about  having  an  interest  or  con- 
trol on  a  particular  date.  Leading  up  to  that  date  people  could 
have,  because  of  this  common  knowledge,  participated  in  the  mar- 
kets in  some  fashion  that  would  have  benefited  themselves.  Is  that 
possible? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  Congressman,  I  do  not  understand  the  conflict.  I 
can  make  one  statement.  The  only  one,  the  sole  member  of  the 
board,  other  than  the  president  who  is  a  nonvoting  member,  that 
knew  about  the  propo^  that  may  go  to  the  board  for  discussion 
without  knowing  how  it  would  come  out  was  myself. 

Mr.  Coleman.  I  understand  that.  But  it  is  possible  that  people 
not  only  on  the  board  but  other  people  who  were  traders  could 
have — with  this  understanding  of  what  was  going  on  in  the  mar- 
kets— obviously  tried  to  benefit  from  it  or  r^uc^  their  exposure 
in  the  weeks  leading  up  to  a  decision  on  July  11? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  Congressmfm,  I  cannot  comment  on  traders 
that  react  to  rumors  fmd  take  positions  on  the  rumors. 

Mr.  Coleman.  Is  there  any  reason  why  members  of  the  board  of 
directors  would  be  in  any  better  position  to  gain  or  to  lose  than  any 
other  person  who  was  on  the  floor? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  No.  Absolutely  not.  

Mr.  Coleman.  And  in  this  pfuticulfu*  question,  since  the  CFTC 
had  already  made  a  concurrent  decision,  even  absence  the  boEird 
making  a  decision,  the  effectiveness  of  that  decision  would  have 
been  the  same  in  this  particular  instance.  If  CFTC  had  not  taken 
that  action  then  there  may  have  been  more  reason  to  feel  that  a 
conflict  of  interest  that  one  may  have  worked  for  an  employer  who 
held  a  position  would  have  been  more  meanii^ul.  This  particular 
case  was  less  so  probably  because  the  Commission  had  made  a  simi- 
lar decision.  

Mr.  Mahlmann.  Now  the  CFTC  came  to  the  same  conclusion  as 
the  board,  but  there  existed  a  problem  in  the  orderly  liquidation  of 
a  contract.  The  two  entities  came  to  that  conclusion  independent  of 
each  other. 

Mr.  English.  Mr.  Nagle. 

Mr.  Nagle.  I  want  to  go  beick  again.  Mr.  Andrew,  you  are  a 
senior  vice  president  with  Shearson-Lehman  and  Hutton,  Inc.? 

Mr.  Andrew.  That  is  correct. 


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Mr.  Naqlb.  Was  Shearaon-Lehman  and  Hutbni  giving  advice  to 
customers  as  to  whether  it  would  be  prudent  or  not  in  May  and 
June  to  invest  in  July  soybeans?  Does  your  company  give  tiiat  kind 
of  advice? 

Mr.  Andrew.  I  am  sorry,  I  did  not  hear  the  question.  Let  me  see 
if  I  hit  it.  Does  my  company  give  advice  to  buy  or  sell  July  soy- 
beans? 

Mr.  Naqlb.  Yes. 

Mr.  Andbew.  They  give  advice  on  the  soybean  market  It  could 
be  July,  November  or  any,  yes. 

Mr.  Naqu.  Would  the  same  be  true  for  Drexel,  Bumham,  and 
Lambert?  Would  they  render  basically  in  the  industry  the  same 
kind  of  advice  that  July  futures  are  a  good  buy  or  July  fiituree  are 
a  bad  buy? 

Mr.  Andrew.  Generically,  most  of  the  firms  will  have  analysts  in 
beans  and  they  are  given  recommendations  to  buy  and  sell  for  all 
markets.  When  I  say  all  markets,  I  mean  all  markets,  not  just  aoy- 
beans  but  grains  and  fdso  with  soybeans,  July,  old  crop,  new  crt^ 
that  type  of  thing. 

Mr.  Naole.  Would  it  be  fair  to  say  that  Shearson-Lehman  would 
have  custmners  who  would  have  been  affected  by  the  dedsimi  that 
the  board  took  on,  I  believe,  it  was  July  11? 

Mr.  Andrew.  I  do  not  know  what  the  Shearson  positicms  were, 
the  customers  positions  were.  I  assume  tiiat  they  could  have  heeai 
on  both  sides.  So  I  do  not  know,  some  could  be  winners  and  some 
could  be  losers. 

Mr.  Nagle.  Could  the  same  be  said  for  Drexel,  Bumham  and 
Lambert? 

Mr.  Andrew.  I  really  cannot  speak  for  Drexel. 

Mr.  Nagle.  The  boaird  is  composed  of  24  members.  How  many  of 
them  are  independent  members  or  public  members? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  We  have  three  nomnembers,  meaning  non- 
members  of  the  exchange  on  our  board.  That  is  from  the  general 
public.  There  are  three  members  who  are  members  of  the  exchange 
but  are  members  from  outside  of  Chicago.  They  are  nonresident 
members.  There  are  eight  members  and  members  of  the  exchange 
who  are  currently  principals  or  officers  of  Futures  Commiseion 
Merchants.  There  are  six  directors  whose  principal  occupation  in 
life  is  being  brokers  on  the  exchtuige.  And  there  are  three  members 
whose  principal  activity  is  to  trade  for  their  own  account.  In  addi- 
tion to  that  you  have  the  president  who  is  a  nonvoting  member  of 
the  board. 

Mr.  Nagle.  Can  you  obtain  and  supply  to  the  committee  the 
open  positions  of  all  participants  in  the  July  contracts  of  soybeans 
at  the  end  of  each  day  from  July  11,  to  last  night? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  Congressman,  under  proper  subpena,  we  will  be 
very  happy  to  supply  the  committee  with  the  records  (^  anybody  in 
the  marketplace  on  July  11. 

Mr.  Nagle.  And  can  you  obtain  and  supply  to  the  committee  the 
trades  by  all  participants  for  each  day  fitim  July  12  through  noon 
today? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  Under  the  proper  subpoena,  we  can  supply  that 
to  the  committee. 

Mr.  Enqush.  Would  the  gentleman  yield? 


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Mr.  Nagu.  I  would  yield  to  the  chairman. 

Mr.  E^NGusH.  On  thm  particular  point,  it  may  be  more  proper  for 
any  requests  that  are  made  to  be  made  through  the  CFTC.  Tlie  law 
is  quite  clear  as  to  the  committee's  ri{;ht  to  information.  And  as  I 
understand  it,  the  CFTC  then  has  the  ri{;ht  and  access  to  all  the 
information  that  is  in  question.  So  as  opposed  to  the  conunittee 
going  directly  to  an  exchange,  it  may  be  more  proper  for  us  to  go 
through  the  CFTC  and  perhaps  the  committee  might  want  to  get 
tt^ether  and  discuss  what  information — let  me  say  this.  There  is 
already  a  request  before  the  CFTC,  and  it  is  my  understanding  that 
this  subcommittee  will  be  supplied  certain  information.  Perhaps  we 
should  review  that  information  and  determine  if  we  need  any  addi- 
tional information,  but  some  of  it  is  along  the  lines  you  are  talking 
about,  Mr.  Nagle. 

Mr.  Nagle.  I  would  like  to  make  that  a  formal  request  of  the 
committee,  but  I  will  defer  until  we  have  a  chance  to  talk,  Mr. 
Chairman.  But  I  think  probably,  I  would  like  to  make  a  formal 
motion,  if  necessary. 

Mr.  English.  Thank  you  very  much. 

Mr.  Nagle.  When  Dr.  Gramm  was  here,  I  am  almost  certain  and 
I  will  have  to  review  her  testimoi^  precisely,  but  I  am  almost  cer> 
tain  that  she  told  me  that  the  CFTC  did  nothing  when  informed  of 
the  board's  decision,  except  thank  you  for  the  information.  I  am 
just  dead  certain.  I  am  quoting  from  a  newspaper  article  that 


Mr.  EInglish.  What  paper? 

Mr.  Nagle.  The  Journal  of  Commerce  quotes  her  at  the  hearing 
as  saying,  as  to  the  House  Agriculture  subcommittee  hearing  on  re- 
authorization of  the  CFTC  about  her  reaction  to  CBT's  notice.  She 
said,  "she  thanked  them  for  the  information."  I  thought  your  testi- 
mony today  was  as  if  the  CFTC  took  an  independent  step  or  action 
other  than  just  simply  thanking  you.  Your  testimony  is  that  they — 
what  did  they  do? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  Congressman,  the  Commission  took  independent 
action  vis-a-vis  one  market  participEuit  by  revoking  the  hedge  ex- 
emption of  that  market  participant,  effective  the  close  July  18 
which  in  effect  meant  that  that  market  participant  had  to  liquidate 
whatever  they  had  open,  single  market  participant,  up  to  and  in* 
elusive  July  18,  down  to  3  million  bushels.  

Mr.  Nagle.  So  if  the  committee  were  told  that  CFTC  did  nothing, 
that  testimony  would  have  not  been  consistent  with  your  recollec- 
tion? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  The  CFTC  took  their  own  independent  action. 
The  Board  of  Trade  did  its  own  independent  action.  We  communi- 
cated those  actions  to  each  other. 

Mr.  Nagle.  With  the  indulgence  of  the  Chair,  you  started  moni- 
toring this  in  May  as  a  board? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  The  July  contract  was  started  to  be  monitored 
last  week  of  May,  first  week  of  June,  after  the  May  contract  had 
gone  off  the  board. 

Mr.  Nagle.  Did  you  monitor  it  every  day? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  On  a  daily  basis. 

Mr.  Nagle.  And  the  price  continued  to  rise? 


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Mr.  Mahuiann.  I  do  not  recall  any  price  movement  in  particu- 
lar during  the  time  from  May  on  forwani.  It  was  irrespective  of  the 
price  movement.  We  monitored  open  poeitions  every  day. 

Mr.  Naole.  I  guess  I  am  curious.  Would  you  agree  that  there  was 
an  upward  trend  in  the  price  on  July  soybean  futures  between 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  I  do  not  recall  the  prices,  Congressman. 

Mr.  Nagle.  Could  you  supply  that  to  me? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  Yes,  we  can. 

Mr.  Naglk.  The  question  I  want  to  know  is:  Why  did  you  wait  80 
late  before  you  finally  took  the  Eiction? 

Mr.  MAmJMANN.  Congressman,  you  etre  most  reluctant  as  an 
overseer  of  orderly  markets  to  declare  that  there  is  an  emergennr. 
And  you  hope  that  all  market  participants  will  live  within  their  ob- 
ligation to  affect  orderly  liquidation.  Emergencies  are  only  taken 
as  a  Ifist  resort. 

Mr.  Nagle.  I  would  characterize  and  I  would  ask  you  to  assume 
for  the  purposes  of  my  question.  The  characterization  of  this  ap- 
pears to  be  an  attempt  at  marketpleice  manipulation  by  one  of  the 
market  participants. 

I  wont  you  to  make  that  assimiption.  Do  you  anticipate  at  the 
CBOT  that  in  the  future  you  will  see  more  (^  this  type  of  market 
manipulation  activity  or  to  put  the  question  neutral,  more  of  this 
type  of  market  conduct? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  I  cannot  comment  or  would  I  even  speculate 
whether  there  would  be  more  mcinipulation.  I  cannot  comment  on 
any  potential  allegation  of  manipulation  to  begin  with.  All  I  cem 
say  is  that  the  procedures  in  the  May  contract  by  job  owning  Uie 
market  participemts,  both  long  and  short,  got  us  a  reasonaSle— 
even  though  only  by  the  skin  of  our  teeth,  orderly  liquidation.  That 
saune  syBtem  failed  in  July.  Therefore,  the  emergency  action. 

Mr.  Nagle.  Are  we  going  to  see  more  of  these  in  me  future? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  That  is  speculative  and  I  hope  not. 

Mr.  Nagle.  I  hope  not  too.  In  terms  of  the  reauthorization  of  the 
CPTC,  are  there  any  steps  this  committee  could  take  to  see  that 
perhaps  you  can  act  expeditiously  when  confronted  with  this  s^ua- 
tion  or  the  CFTC  can  act  expeditiously  when  conft*onted  with  this 
situation,  assuming  that  it  does  reoccur? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  We  strongly  hope  it  does  not  reoccur.  And  that 
the  action  that  we  took  is  strong  enough  to  the  participating  WOTld 
whether  long  or  short,  that  the  Board  of  Trade  will  not  stand  for  a 
single  party  pushing  the  marketplace  in  total  around. 

Mr.  Nagle.  You  do  not  have  to  answer  this  today,  but  you  are 
not  requesting  any  additionid  tools  to  deal  with  this  situation 
should  it  reoccur? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  Could  you  repeat  the  question,  please? 

Mr.  Nagle.  I  am  trying  to  get  the  sense  of  direction  of  how  we 
can  deal  with  these  things  in  the  future,  if  they  do  happen,  and  I 
share  your  hope  that  they  do  not.  And  I  am  asking  you  whether  or 
not  you  think  that  in  the  process  of  our  reauthorization,  there  are 
any  additional  tools  that  either  you  or  the  CFTC  should  have  lesis- 
lauvely? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  Coi^ressmim,  as  I  indicated  before,  I  think  the 
exchange  would  tike  to  have  cojurisdiction  over  the  exemptive  proc- 
ess of  speculative  limits,  but  otiier  than  that,  I  think  there  are  good 


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checks  and  balances  in  place  between  the  self-regulatory  environ- 
ment of  the  exchai^e  and  the  regulatory  environment  of  the  Com- 
mission. 

Mr.  Nagle.  Is  the  exchange,  the  Board  of  Trade  given  any  con- 
sideration in  light  of  the  composition  of  the  board  and  this  situa- 
tion specificEilIy?  Is  the  board  given  any  consideration  to  expanding 
its  public  membership? 

Mr.  Mahlmamn.  We  have  given  it  consideration. 

Mr.  Nagle.  That  narrows  it  down,  for  or  eigainst  it? 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  I  would  be  speculating  right  now  as  a  single 
member  of  the  board.  But  it  would  be  my  idea  to  expand  the  board 
by  one  nonpublic  director.  I  mean,  public  director. 

Mr.  Nagle.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman. 

Mr.  English.  Thank  you  very  much,  Mr.  Nagle.  Mr.  HoUoway. 

Mr.  Holloway.  No  questions.  Mr.  Mahlmann,  I  want  to  thank 

Cvery  much  for  your  appeeirftnce  before  the  subcommittee.  It 
been  very  helpful  find  I  think  that  without  question,  the  infoi^ 
mation  that  you  provided  concerning  the  soybeetn  situation  is  most 
helpful  as  well.  That  is  a  subject  of  great  interest  and  particularly 
this  subcommittee  has  taken  note  of  fuid  I  think  it  certainly  has 
gotten  the  attention  of  a  lot  of  members  of  this  subcommittee  that 
tiie  question  of  the  involvement  of  the  CFTC.  I  think  we  were  led 
to  believe  on  Tuesday  that  the  situation  occurred  differently  than 
what  you  told  us  and  we  plan  to  look  into  that  veiy  carefully  and 
further.  So  1  am  sure  we  will  have  an  explanation  mim  the  Chair- 
man of  the  CFTC.  Thank  you  very  much. 

Mr.  Mahlmann.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  would  like  to  thank  you  for 
scheduling  us  after  the  expiration  of  July  futures  and  I  would  like 
to  thank  the  staff  that  worked  diligently  and  has  been  very  much 
available  to  have  dialog  with.  Thank  you  very  much. 

Mr.  English.  We  are  looking  forward  to  continued  dialog,  and  as 
I  said  as  we  talked  about  earlier,  as  far  as  the  legislation  is  con- 
cerned, I  think  we  are  talking  about  degrees  in  many  areas.  And 
we  are  looking  forward  to  resolvii^  those  matter.  Thank  you  very 
much. 

Our  next  witness  is  James  Lindau  who  is  president  of  the  Minne- 
apolis Grain  Exchange  in  Minneapolis,  Minnesota.  Mr.  Lindau,  we 
appreciate  your  coming  and  I  know  that  you  have  been  waiting 
very  patiently  and  we  are  looking  forward  to  your  testimony.  As  I 
told  our  other  witnesses  if  you  would  care  to  summeuize  your  testi- 
mony, please  feel  free  to  do  so,  and  without  objection  it  will  be 
made  a  part  of  the  record. 

STATEMENT  OF  JAMES  H.  LINDAU,  PRESIDENT,  MINNEAPOLIS 
GRAIN  EXCHANGE 

Mr.  Lindau.  Thank  you  very  much,  Mr.  Chairman.  I  must  say 
this  has  been  an  interesting  day.  I  am  James  Lindau,  president  of 
the  Minneapolis  Grain  Exchange.  I  am  delighted  to  have  this  op- 
portunity to  talk  to  you.  There  are  a  lot  of  things  that  are  on  the 
table  before  us  that  are  very  important.  I  am  going  to  try  to  re- 
strict myself  to  a  very  few. 

The  Minneapolis  Grain  Exchange  was  established  in  1881.  It  is 
an  active  cash  greiin  trading  center  and  maintains  futures  con- 


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tracts  and  options  on  Hard  Red  Spring  wheat  and  contracts  only  on 
White  wheat,  oats,  and  high  fructose  com  syrup. 

I  note  that  representatives  from  several  other  exchanges  have  al- 
reewhr  testified  before  this  committee  in  connection  with  this  year's 
CFTC  reauthorization.  Let  me  hmit  my  remarks  to  the  issues  of 
major  concern  to  the  Minneapolis  Grain  Bxchan^. 

First,  a  general  comment.  I  am  a  newcomer  m  representing  an 
exchange  in  a  setting  such  as  this,  but  I  am  ffuniliar  with  business 
and  government.  I  spent  23  years  with  a  compeuiy  that  will  remain 
unnamed,  as  a  manager  of  grain  trading  and  a  feed  ingredient 
trading  business,  and  11  years  as  mayor  of  the  third  largest  aty  of 
Minnesota. 

The  futures  industry  today  with  all  its  size,  strength,  and  variety 
owes  much  of  its  growth  and  credibility  to  the  action  of  this  com- 
mittee in  1974.  In  that  year  you  crafted  l^islation  to  create  an  ex- 
clusive, independent  r^ulator  to  regulate  the  Nation's  futures 
markets.  The  child  of  that  legislation,  the  Commodity  Futures 
Trading  Commission,  has  done  a  good  job  under  difficult  circum- 
stances. However,  we  are  concerned  that  parts  of  this  bill  serve  to 
revive  the  1974  mandate  and  put  micromanagement  of  some  as- 
pects of  the  industry  in  the  Congress  and  out  of  the  expert  regula- 
tors. One  must  question  whether  this  is  either  good  tni^ess  or 
good  government. 

Specifically,  dual  trading  is  essential  to  preserving  liquidity  in 
our  futures  markets.  Dual  traders  are  involved  in  everv  aspect  of 
futures  trading  at  the  Minneapolis  Grain  Exchange.  They  cannot 
be  separated  from  trading  in  the  current  option,  or  spreading 
against  deferred  options,  and  permit  retention  of  any  semblance  (^ 
liquidity. 

If  di^onesty  springs  from  dual  trading,  we  must  increase  our 
vigilance  to  prevent  it,  even  though  there  is  no  evidence  of  dishon- 
est dual  trading  at  the  Minneapolis  Grain  E^xchange.  IF  dishonest 
dual  treiding  springs  from  highly  liquid,  eictive  futures  markets,  let 
us  identify  and  punish  the  dishonest  traders,  but  let  us  not,  in  the 
process,  destroy  the  futures  markets.  These  markets  have  provided 
the  best,  and  often  the  only  source  of  pricing  informaoon  and 
margin  protection  dating  back  almost  to  the  Civu  War. 

Technology  is  reaching  the  point  that  very  accurate,  timely  audit 
information  is  available  to  help  identify  those  traders  who  mif^t 
try,  unfairly,  to  do  better  than  their  trading  skill  alone  mij^t 
permit.  At  the  Minneapolis  Grstin  Exchange,  we  believe  that  our 
audit  program  provides  a  satisfactoiy  means  by  which  to  verify  the 
timing  data  submitted  to  the  clearinghouse  and  to  detect  inaccu- 
rate or  missing  trade  data  on  source  documents. 

In  this  regard,  the  Commission,  during  its  198S  rule  enforcement 
review  of  ttie  Minneapolis  Grain  Exchange,  found  that  the  ex- 
change'e  I-minute  timing  system  was  extremely  accurate.  The 
CPTC  stated,  "The  exchange  a  overall  accura(^  rate  was  96.8  per- 
cent." We  believe  that  an  accuracy  rate  of  90  percent  or  greater 
may  be  a  proj>er  target,  and  will,  of  course,  continue  to  soive  to 
maintain  a  high  level  of  performance  in  this  area.  I  will  add  paren- 
thetically that  our  goal  is  certainly  higher  than  that. 

Let  me  take  1  minute  to  congratulate  Mr.  Cherry  and  his  staff 
on  their  professionalism.  We  were  visited  at  the  Minneapolis  Qr^ 


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Elxchange  by  Mr.  McDonald  who  was  competent  and  thorough.  It  is 
our  view  that  the  fruitfi  of  this  long,  detailed  Investigation  should 
be  fully  used  by  the  committee  as  pail  of  its  responsibilities  to 
overview  the  CFTC.  In  the  main,  the  CFTC  has  more  than  enough 
statutory  authority  in  the  areas  of  so-called  dual  tratUng,  audit 
trail  and  composition  oC  boards  at  exchangee.  I  think  it  is  entirely 
appropriate  for  this  committee  to  review  the  record  of  the  CFTC  on 
these  issues.  It  would  be  risky  to  incorporate  your  concern  into 
statutory  mandates. 

[The  prepared  statement  of  Mr.  Lindau  appears  at  the  conclusion 
of  the  hearing.] 

Mr.  Engush.  Theuik  you  very  much,  Mr.  Lindau.  From  what  I 
know  of  the  exchange  out  of  Minneapolis,  you  do  not  have  a  single 
contract  that  would  fall  under  the  provisions  of  this  legislation,  do 
you? 

Mr.  Lindau.  That  is  correct,  sir. 

Mr.  English.  So  it  has  no  impact  on  you  whatsoever? 

Mr.  Lindau.  At  the  present  time,  we  have  no  contract  that  would 
reach  the  limit  that  you  have  established.  Obviously,  we  hope  that 
that  becomes  a  problem. 

Mr.  Eh^GLiSH.  But  you  have  a  long  way  to  go? 

Mr.  Lindau.  I  cem  say  that  with  confidence.  We  have  a  loi^  way 
to  go. 

Mr.  English.  With  r^ard  to  the  point  that  you  made  with  more 
than  enough  statutory  authority.  I  would  wholeheartedly  agree 
with  you.  CFTC  does  have  more  than  enough  statutory  authority. 
And  one  of  the  problems  we  have  is  that  when  we  find  an  agency 
that  is  not  using  the  authority  that  they  are  provided,  we  have  two 
choices.  One,  we  can  attempt  to  address  that  problem,  namely 
through  legislation,  or  we  can  simply  accept  the  fact  that  that 
agency  chooses  not  to  act.  And  in  this  particular  case  of  this  l^is- 
lation,  we  have  chosen  to  act  where  we  see  the  failure  of  the  CFTC 
to  act.  It  certainly  is  not  the  desire  of  the  members  of  this  subcom- 
mittee or  the  full  committee  or  the  Congress  to  have  to  take  this 
action.  We  would  much  prefer  to  sit  bade  and  say,  gosh  you  guys 
are  doing  a  great  job  and  we  are  thrilled  about  it  Euid  go  merrily  on 
our  way  past  the  reauthorization. 

That  is  not  the  case.  We  have  some  problems  that  we  are  facing. 
We  have  an  investigation  underway  by  the  Justice  Department 
that  is  well  documented.  You  have  just  heeuxl  much  of  the  contro- 
versy with  regard  to  decisions  that  are  being  made.  We  have  evi- 
dent involvement  by  the  Commission.  We  had  Chairman  Gramm 
come  before  this  committee  and  leading  this  committee  to  bel^ve 
that  the  CPTC  was  nothing  more  than  a  casual  observer  who  re- 
ceived information. 

We  do  not  have  much  choice.  If,  in  fact,  we  are  going  to  demand 
higher  standards.  That  is  the  real  issue  we  are  t^ftlbing  about  is 
whether  we  are  going  to  demand  higher  standards.  Then  we  have 
to  take  that  action.  We  are  soUciting  and  hoping  to  work  with  the 
exchanges.  We  want  to  work  with  you,  and  as  I  mentioned,  the 
Board  of  Trade  and  earlier  this  morning,  the  Chicago  Mercantile 
Exchange,  the  New  York  Exchange,  Kansas  City,  in  trying  to  de- 
velop what  those  standards  should  be  and  the  best  way  to  reach 
those  standards. 


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We  have  had  the  Futures  Industry  Aaaociation  testifying  that 
they  agree  with  us  that  a  carrot  and  stick  approach  is  necosHaiy  if 
we  are  going  to  achieve  those  goals.  That  is  basically  what  this  W 
istation  contains.  It  holds  out  a  carrot,  but  there  is  also  a  stick.  We 
recognize  that  with  your  audit  treiil  and  the  system  that  you  have, 
you  are  among  the  top  exchanges  in  the  country  as  far  as  being 
able  to  monitor  and  make  certain  that  you  know  when  any  type  en 
wrongdoing  takes  place,  emd  we  want  to  push  other  exchanges  to 
reach  those  goals. 

Mr.  LiNDAU.  Mr.  Chairman,  yours  is  not  an  enviable  task.  I  agree 
that  it  is  diHicult  to  accomplish.  I  think  you  should  take  some  ctnn- 
fort  and  confidence  in  the  fact  that  every  exchemge  who  has  spo^n 
here  this  morning  shares  your  goal  of  creating  a  more  honest,  more 
reliable  marketplace.  So  in  that,  we  can  all  work  t<%ether. 

Mr.  English.  I  appreciate  that  very  much  and  we  are  looking 
forward  to  your  suggestions  and  your  thoughts.  And  I  am  hopeful 
that  in  the  next  few  days  that  we  will  firmly  eetabluA  and  detail 
what  those  standards  wfll  be.  So  thank  you  ver^  much.  Mr.  Tallon. 

Mr.  Tallon.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman.  I  thmk  you  told  us  that 
^ou  do  not  have  any  contracts  on  your  exchange  that  would  Call 
mto  7,000  contracts  a  day  being  traded  and  therefore  come  under 
certain  restrictions,  but  with  your  audit  trail  and  the  technology 
you  are  using,  are  you  able  to  have  100  percent  audit  trail  that  can 
detect  any  and  all  abuses?  Can  you  do  that? 

Mr.  LiNDAu.  Mr.  Chairman  Euid  Mr.  Tallon,  as  I  indicated  in  my 
remarks,  we  had  at  the  last  cmalysis  a  96.8  percent  accuracy  rat^ 
100  percent  would  be  difficult  in  only  one  respect.  We  time  our 
trading  cards  to  the  minute.  If  there  happen  to  be  1,  2,  ot  3  trades 
in  that  same  minute  by  the  same  trader,  we  may  not  be  able  to  be 
100  percent  accurate,  out  we  think  that  even  at  96.8  percent,  we 
are  pretty  close  to  perfect. 

Mr.  Tallon.  And  perfection  is  pretty  difficult  to  achieve,  is  it 
not? 

Mr.  LiNDAu.  Of  course,  it  is.  It  can  only  be  a  goal.  One  of  the 
restrictive  factors  is  the  cost  of  getting  to  that  point  of  perfection. 
As  an  exchange,  we  can  only  do  what  we  can  afford  to  do.  We  are 
pleased  that  that  has  got  us  to  96.8  percent. 

Mr.  Tallon.  Wait  1  minute.  Do  you  believe  that  if  cost  was  no 
problem  that  you  could  get  to  an  absolute  100  percent  witii  any 
and  all  abuses? 

Mr.  LiNDAU.  Mr.  Chairman  and  Mr.  Tallon,  if  costs  were  no 
factor,  we  probably  could  find  a  person  to  stemd  by  each  one  of  our 
60  or  70  traders  in  the  pit  all  day  and  go  home  with  them  at  nic^t 
to  make  sure  the  trades  were  honest. 

Mr.  Tallon.  From  a  practical  standpoint,  I  certainly  agree  with 
the  chairman  that  with  his  carrot  ana  stick  approacl^  but  maybe 
his  stick  is  too  loi^.  I  do  not  know.  Thank  you. 

Mr.  English.  Mr.  HoUoway. 

Mr.  Hollow  AY.  We  appreciate  you  bearing  with  us  with  the  long 
day  we  have  had.  I  am  sure  that  you  have  had  interest  in  the  hear^ 
ing  as  well  as  we  have.  I  just  basically  say  with  dual  trading  do 
you  ^t  many  letters  in  or  my  perception  oif  what  America  feels  is 
that  it  is  evil.  Do  you  get  many  letters  to  the  exchange  a 
or  questioning  you  about  dual  trading? 


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Mr.  LiNDAU.  Mr.  Chairman  and  CoDgressman  Holloway,  we  have 
not  had  any  cards  or  letters  dealing  with  dual  trading.  As  a  matter 
of  fact,  the  number  of  customer  complaints  that  we  get  is  very 
small.  Ours  is  principeilly  a  commercial  market.  Dual  trading  has 
not  become  a  household  word. 

Mr.  Holloway.  I  have  no  further  questions,  Mr.  Chairman. 

Mr.  English.  Thank  you  very  much,  Mr.  Lindau.  I  appreciate 
your  testimony  very  much. 

Mr.  Lindau.  Thank  you  for  giving  me  the  opportunity. 

Mr.  English.  And  as  I  said,  we  will  be  looking  forward  to  work- 
ing with  you. 

Our  next  witness  is  Dr.  Sanford  Grossman  who  is  with  Princeton 
University,  Princeton,  New  Jersey. 

Dr.  Grossman. 

STATEMENT  OF  SANFORD  J.  GROSSMAN,  PROFESSOR, 
DEPARTMENT  OF  ECONOMICS,  PRINCETON  UNIVERSITY 

Mr.  Grossman.  Thank  you  for  inviting  me.  I  tim  a  professor  of 
finance.  I  have  been  a  professor  of  finance  at  Princeton  University 
of  Chicago,  University  of  Pennsylvania,  and  Stanford  University.  I 
have  worked  for  the  Board  of  Governors  of  the  Federal  Reserve. 
My  reseeirch  over  the  last  15  or  so  years  is  involved  in  the  study  of 
futures  and  securities  markets  with  special  attention  to  the  deter- 
minants of  market  liquidity  and  price  discovery.  My  current  re- 
search involves  studying  dual  trading,  as  well  as  the  mathematics 
of  transactions,  cost  avoidance,  and  securities  in  futures  markets.  I 
have  worked  for  the  New  York  Stock  Exchange,  Katz  and  Bachs 
study  of  program  trading.  And  I  have  recently  completed  the  theo- 
retical part  of  my  study  of  dual  treiding  for  the  Chicago  Board  of 
Trade. 

I  would  like  to  if  I  could  summarize  the  results  of  that  part  of 
the  study  for  you.  Some  of  this  is  going  to  sound,  I  am  airaid  overly 
academic,  but  that  is  where  I  come  from. 

From  my  point  of  view  dual  trading  is  said  to  occur  when  an 
entity  sometimes  trades  as  a  broker  for  customers,  find  at  other 
times  trades -for  its  own  account.  I  found  that  dual  trading  is  quite 
pervasive  throughout  the  U.S.  securities  and  futures  markets,  as 
well  as  in  financial  and  commodity  markets  throughout  the  world. 
The  pervasiveness  of  dual  trading  is  due  to  the  fact  that  many  of 
the  skills  and  facilities  required  to  be  a  good  broker  are  also  neces- 
sary to  be  a  good  trader. 

Dual  trading  increases  the  supply  of  both  brokers  and  floor  trad- 
ers because  a  dual  trader  can  earn  income  from  two  activities  to 
cover  his  cost  of  training,  his  exchange  seat,  and  time  spent  on  the 
floor.  He  has  less  idle  time  and  facilities  when  he  can  switch  ^m 
the  activity  in  low  demand  to  the  activity  in  high  demand. 

I  should  just  mention  that  as  a  professor,  this  notion  that  you 
can  be  spending  your  time  on  two  d^erent  activities  and  be  a  dual 
trader  is  very  common  in  my  business,  the  professor  business, 
where  we  both  do  teaching  and  we  do  research.  And  there  is  some 
overlap  between  the  skills  required  to  be  a  good  teacher  and  the 
skills  required  to  be  a  good  researcher,  and  when  we  do  not  spend 
our  time  teaching,  we  switch  and  do  research  and  sometimes  if  you 


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do  research  for  too  long  you  get  a  headache  Eind  you  prefer  to  do 
some  teaching.  So  this  notion  that  your  skills  in  trading  that  one 
has  can  be  used  for  two  activities  is  something  that  every  research 
professor  is  familiar  with. 

Returning  to  dual  trading,  I  found  that  dufil  trading  has  both  a 
direct  and  mdirect  effect  on  the  quality  of  customer  services.  The 
direct  effect  is  an  increase  in  the  quality  and  quanti^  of  brokers. 
T^  fact  that  dual  trading  increases  the  supply  of  brokers  means 
the  ctistomer  has  more  brokers  to  choose  from  and  at  a  lower  ^irice. 
Furthermore,  using  a  broker  who  is  a  good  trader  means  hi^ier 
quality  execution  for  customers. 

The  indirect  effect  of  dual  trading  derives  from  the  increase  in 
the  liquidity  of  the  market  caused  Inr  the  increase  in  the  number  of 
market  makers.  Parties  who  trade  for  their  own  account  by  bui 
at  a  low  ^ce  and  selling  at  a  high  price  serve  a  market  nuu_ 
function.  Thus,  the  abihty  for  Em  entity  to  use  its  facilities  for  pro- 
prietary trading  results  in  an  increased  presence  of  market  makers 
on  the  floor  at  times  when  their  services  are  most  needed.  More 
traders  standing  ready  to  trade  make  for  a  more  liquid  market 
with  smoother  price  changes. 

In  order  to  aid  in  a  comparative  analysis  of  dual  trading  I  distin- 
guish two  types  of  dual  tradli^.  The  first  type  called  simultaneous 
dual  trfiding  occiu^  when  a  firm  trades  as  a  principal  for  its  own 
account,  Emd  an  agent  for  its  customer  in  the  same  transaction. 
This  ty|>e  of  dual  trading  is  prevalent  in  securities  markets,  curren- 
cy and  interest  rate  swap  markets,  and  the  fixed  income  market 

As  a  matter  of  fact  most  member  firms  of  the  New  York  Stock 
Exchange  call  themselves  broker-dealers.  These  stock  exchange 
firms  sometimes  act  as  brokers,  trading  for  customers  as  broken, 
and  other  times  trade  for  their  house  or  proprietary  account.  Every 
major  firm  that  you  have  ever  heard  of  that  trades  stock,  trades  (or 
its  house  account  and  it  also  trades  for  customers. 

But  it  does  something  even  more  extreme  than  that.  Sometimes 
it  does  bo^  at  the  same  time  by  taking  the  opposite  position  ot  a 
customer  treuisaction,  crossing  that  transaction,  for  example,  on 
the  floor  of  the  New  York  Stock  Exchange.  I  heard  it  said  today 
that  speciahste  are  dual  traders  in  the  New  York  Stock  E^hange, 
but  that  is  an  understatement.  E)very  major  firm  that  is  a  m^nber 
firm  of  the  exchange  both  trades  for  its  own  account  and  tractes  for 
customers.  Simult^eous  dual  trading  does  not  take  place  in- fu- 
tures markets  in  the  sense  that  firms  do  not  simultaneously  take 
the  other  side  or  their  own  customers  trades. 

The  second  type  of  dual  trading  which  is  something  that  occuza 
in  our  futures  markets  is  what  I  call  consecutive  dual  trading,  and 
this  occurs  when  a  firm  trades  for  customers  as  an  agent  and  at 
other  times  trades  for  its  own  account  as  a  principal,  but  the  firm 
does  not  do  both  in  the  same  transaction.  Consecutive  dual  trading 
occurs  in  futures  mfu'kets,  as  well  £is  in  edl  of  the  markets  in  whiw 
there  is  simultaneous  dual  trading. 

Dual  trading  plays  a  particularly  important  role  in  futures  mar- 
kets as  contrasted  with  securities  markets.  The  fact  that  all  trad- 
ing in  futures  takes  pUtce  on  the  exchange  floor  and  that  sinread 
trading  is  an  important  part  of  hedging  strat^es  make  the  skills 
of  a  trader  more  necessary  for  a  good  futures  broker.  The  immedia- 


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cy  required  by  the  futures  markets  makes  liquidity  more  impor- 
tant, and  therefore  makes  a  larger  supply  of  market  makers  more 
critical  than  it  would  be  in  a  securities  market. 

There  are  three  types  of  brokerage  services  that  I  have  identified 
that  the  customer  needs.  The  first  service  called  search  involves 
searching  for  the  parties  who  are  interested  in  being  on  the  other 
aide  of  the  trade,  that  is  the  contra-side,  the  contra-party  to  the 
trade.  The  second  service  called  timing  involves  obtaining  and  proc- 
essii^  information  to  determine  how  long  to  wait  for  the  arrival  of 
the  most  advantageous  contra-party  while  being  exposed  to  the  risk 
of  Eui  adverse  price  move.  The  third  service  bargaining  involves  ac- 
tively bargaining  Eunong  available  contra-parties  to  obtain  the  best 
price. 

A  securities  broker  can  use  his  skills  and  sales  force  to  prear- 
range trades  upstairs.  Upstairs  search  in  securities  markets  is 
ofien  an  effective  substitute  for  the  downstairs  working  of  an  order 
where  timing  and  bargaining  skiUs  are  needed.  A  futures  broker 
cannot  prearrange  trades  upstairs.  The  brokerage  firm  cannot  sub- 
stitute search  skills  for  trading  skills.  The  order  must  be  worked  on 
the  exchange  floor.  The  floor  broker  must  have  the  ability  to  trade 
in  such  a  way  on  the  floor  of  the  exchiuige  that  he  brings  the  other 
side  of  the  trade  to  the  floor  at  a  good  price  for  his  customer. 
Therefore,  floor  trading  skills  are  relatively  more  important  in  the 
fiitures  market  than  in  the  securities  market. 

Further,  much  futures  trading  involves  spreads  where  a  custom* 
er  wants  to  buy  and  sell  two  or  more  contracts  simultaneously  for 
a  guaranteed  net  price.  The  customer's  broker  can  execute  the 
spread  by  trading  with  a  local  on  the  floor,  or  the  broker  can  exe- 
cute the  individual  l^s  of  the  spread  consecutively.  The  latter  will 
be  in  the  best  interest  of  his  customer  if  the  broker  is  a  skilled 
trader,  since  by  trading  each  1^  himself,  the  broker  avoids  paying 
the  local  a  premium  for  the  risk  in  trading  the  spread.  Such  spread 
trading  is  inherently  risky  to  a  broker,  since  Eifter  he  execute  one 
1^  of  the  spread  his  customer  can  hold  him  to  a  price  for  the  other 
1^  of  the  spread,  which  the  broker  may  find  impossible  to  Eichieve 
if  the  price  moves  after  he  does  the  first  leg.  This  aspect  of  futures 
trades  as  well  as  the  relatively  high  underlying  price  volatility  in 
many  futures  contracts  increase  the  trading  skills  burden  on  a  fu- 
tures floor  broker  relative  to  that  of  a  securities  floor  broker. 

Futures  trading  customers  often  have  a  high  demand  for  immedi- 
acy because  they  are  trading  to  hedge  an  underlying  spot  market 
position.  The  fact  that  immediacy  of  trade  execution  is  extremely 
important  to  futures  customers  implies  that  they  will  have  a  great- 
er demfind  for  market  makers  than  will  be  the  case  in  markets 
where  the  cost  of  delayed  execution  is  smaller.  A  commodity 
hedger  bears  great  risk  if  he  does  not  do  his  fiitures  trade  immedi- 
ately. This  risk  may  force  him  to  trade  using  a  market  order,  for 
example,  to  sell  immediately  to  the  highest  bidder  currently  avail- 
able. If  there  are  few  market  makers,  then  he  will  receive  a  rela- 
tively low  price,  that  is,  his  trade  will  have  a  high  market  impact. 
Thus,  futures  markets  have  a  great  demand  for  traders  who  in 
effect  serve  a  market  making  fiinction.  The  institution  of  dual  trad- 
ing permits  this  demand  to  be  met  at  low  cost. 


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Mr.  English.  Dr.  Groesman,  we  have  a  vote  on  the  floor,  we  are 
going  to  have  to  make,  so  we  will  be  back  here  just  shortly.  We  will 
have  to  break  for  that  vote.  I  am  sorry. 

[Elecess  taken.] 

Mr.  English.  Dr.  Grossman,  I  am  sorry  about  the  vote.  We  get 
into  these  interruptions  here  as  part  of  our  committee  process. 
Please  continue  with  your  statement.  As  I  mentioned  before,  if  you 
care  to  summarize  any  of  your  statement,  please  feel  fi^ee  to  do  so. 
It  will  be  meide  part  of  the  record. 

Mr.  Grossman.  Yes,  I  am  just  about  finished.  In  concluding,  dual 
trading  increases  the  supply  of  the  types  of  customer  services 
which  are  relatively  most  demanded  by  futures  customers.  Ehial 
trading  is  prevalent  in  the  securities  market,  both  on  the  floor  and 
off  the  trading  floor.  Institutional  securities  trades  are  often  prear- 
ranged off  the  floor,  and  this  lessens  the  burden  of  securitiee  floor 
brokers.  It  would  be  quite  peculiar  to  eliminate  dual  trading  for  Ai- 
tures  and  maintain  it  for  securities  where  the  dual  trading  by  floor 
brokerB  is  less  important.  The  elimination  of  dufd  trading  from  f^i- 
tures  markets  will  harm  customers  by  reducing  the  quabty  of  bro- 
kers who  do  customer  business.  The  beet  traders  will  trade  for 
their  own  account,  leaving  customers  with  broken  who  are  lees 
skiUed  traders. 

Bv  preventing  traders  from  acting  as  brokers,  the  elimination  of 
dual  trading  will  reduce  the  number  of  floor  traders  and  thus 
reduce  market  liquidity.  Foreign  markets  will  gain  an  «lvantage 
over  U.S.  markets  causing  large  customers  to  leave  U.S.  markets, 
and  these  U.S.  markets  will  therefore  lose  liquidity.  Therefore, 
there  are  small  customers  who  remain  and  they  are  the  ones  who 
are  unable  to  trade  overseas,  will  be  most  adversely  afHected  by  the 
loss  of  liquidity  in  U.S.  markets.  Spot  metrkets,  such  as  grains  and 
the  U.S.  Treasury  bond  market  will  be  adversely  affected  by  the 
loss  of  liquidity  m  futures  markets,  and  spot  prices  will  become 
more  volatile.  Finedly,  customers  will  lose  the  freedom  of  choice 
they  now  have  to  pick  either  a  broker  who  trades  for  his  own  ac- 
count, or  to  pick  a  broker  who  trades  exclusively  for  customers. 

That  is  sort  of  the  end  of  my  formal  statement.  I  would  just  like 
to  give  you  one  example  of  what  goes  on  on  the  floor  to  make  srou 
get  a  feel  for  what  the  difficulty  is  of  trading  futures  sometimes 
and  why  futures  traders  really  need  a  skilled  broker.  A  skilled 
broker  is  somebody  who  is  a  good  trader.  Sometimes  you  have  a  sit- 
uation where  the  commodi^  or  the  spread  that  is  to  be  bought,  the 
bid  is  $1  and  the  offer  is  $1.10.  That  is  a  10-percent  sprecu.  Now 
the  customer  gives  his  order  to  the  broker.  It  could  be  a  market 
order.  If  the  broker  is  lazy  or  very  risk  adverse,  he  might  just  lift 
the  offer  to  $1.10.  Maybe  if  the  broker  is  energetic  and  feels  likes 
working  hard  and  takmg  some  risks,  he  might  bid  $1.09  or  $1.06  in 
the  hope  he  can  get  it  somewhat  cheaper  for  his  customer.  Now  in 
bidding  $1.05,  he  of  course  runs  the  risk  the  market  will  move 
away  from  him  before  he  is  ever  able  to  get  the  trade  done  for  luB 
customer.  So  there  is  a  lot  of  pressure  on  a  broker  itbout  how  hard 
to  bargain  and  how  long  to  wait. 

A  good  broker  has  to  have  all  the  skills  of  a  good  trader  to  give 
bis  customer  good  service.  I  have  listened  to  a  lot  of  the  testbnony 
today  emd  h^trd  about  abuses  and  front  running  and  things  tiiat 


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definitely  sound  terrible  to  me,  but  there  is  one  abuse  tliat  hae  not 
been  mentioned  which  I  think  economically  is  at  least  as  great  sig- 
nificance, and  that  is  the  abuse  of  a  lazy  good  for  nothing  broker 
who  does  not  act  by  front  running  adversely  to  you,  but  just  does 
not  give  you  a  good  fill.  He  goes  in  and  you  tell  him  I  have  a  lai^ 
size  to  buy,  get  me  a  good  price.  And  he  has  a  big  deck;  he  is  very 
busy;  he  has  a  lot  of  orders  to  do.  He  asks  what  is  the  market 
People  give  him  a  very  wide  spread,  as  I  said,  the  locals  or  whoever 
is  there  gives  him  a  spread  of  $1  to  $1.10  find  rather  than  bargain- 
ing with  them  and  aiding  with  them  effectively  and  yelling  and 
working  very  hard  to  work  this  order,  he  goes  to  the  $1.10  find  says 
done.  And  he  has  cost  his  customer  perhaps  10  cents.  Maybe  if  he 
had  worked  harder,  he  could  have  got  it  for  $1,  instead  of  $1,10. 

There  is  a  notion  that  when  you  give  your  broker  an  order,  the 
broker  is  away  from  you  on  the  floor  and  you  cannot  see  how  hard 
he  is  working  that  order  creates  a  kind  of  an  abuse  of  laziness  and 
bad  fills,  which  I  think  is  very  significant.  And  I  think,  institutions 
that  encourage  good  traders  to  Income  brokers  and  dual  trading  is 
such,  the  institution  of  dual  trading  does  encourage  good  traders  to 
become  good  brokers  and  do  customer  business  as  opposed  to  leav- 
ing customer  business,  really  lessens  what  I  call  the  bad  fill  abuse. 

I  think  in  trying  to  regulate  these  markets,  you  should  keep  in 
mind  that  one  of  the  biggest  abuses  in  any  principal  agent  rela^on- 
ehip  is  laziness  on  the  part  of  the  agent  and  these  brokers  are 
s^nts  find  anything  that  can  be  done  to  increase  competition 
among  brokers  by  increasing  the  broker  population  through  allow- 
ing dual  trading  is  something  that  will  give  the  customer  a  tool  to 
deal  with  lazy  brokers  and  help  the  customer  get  better  fills. 

That  is  all  of  my  informal  remarks. 

[The  prepared  statement  of  Mr.  Grossman  appecus  at  the  conclu- 
sion of  the  hearing.] 

Mr.  E)ngli8h.  Thank  you  very  much,  Dr.  Grossman.  I  appreciate 
that.  I  Eun  not  sure  there  is  much  that  this  subcommittee  can  do 
about  legislation  on  leiziness.  That  is  an  area  we  have  not  had  a 
great  deal  of  success  with  in  the  past.  There  has  been  once  or  twice 
that  Congress,  I  think,  has  attempted  to  legislate  in  that  area  and 
it  haa  not  worked  out  well  at  £dl.  It  is  my  understanding  that  you 
have  been  employed  by  the  Chicago  Bocud  of  Trade  to  carry  out 
comprehensive  empirical  study  on  dual  trading;  is  that  correct? 

Mr.  Grossman.  Yes. 

Mr.  English.  Also,  it  is  my  understanding  you  were  employed  by 
the  Chicago  Board  of  Trade  earlier  to  cany  out  a  study  with  r^ard 
to  the  proposed  1-minute  time  bracketing  r^ulations  and  you  put 
out  this  booklet;  is  that  correct? 

Mr.  Grossman.  That  looks  like  a  reprint  of  an  article  published 
in  the  Journal  of  Futures  Markets.  It  is  a  reprint  of  a  scholarly 
journal  article. 

Mr.  English.  Right.  You  were  also  employed  by  the  Chicago 
Board  of  Trade  to  can?  out  that  study;  is  that  correct? 

Mr.  Grossman.  1  think  the  study  that  I  did  for  the  Chicago 
Board  of  Trade  led  to  that  paper.  I  am  not  sure  they  commiseure, 
but  there  is  definitely  a  relationship,  yes. 

Mr.  English.  So  you  were  employ«l  to  do  that.  I  noticed  in  this 
article  booklet  that  it  states,  "The  frequency  of  dual  trading  is 


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itself  low."  And  then  in  another  point  in  there  you  state,  "The  fre- 
quency of  dual  trading  are  worth  emphasizing  or  the  low  frequen- 
cies of  dual  trading  are  worth  emphasizing."  Given  that  fact,  how 
can  dual  trading  be  as  vital  as  it  is,  since  you  stated  back  in  1986, 
it  rarely  occurred? 

Mr.  Grossman.  I  think,  if  I  remember  the  context  of  that  is  that 
we  were  at  that  time  concerned  about  front  running  abuses,  and 
that  what  we  did  is  we  studied  a  particular  time  bracket.  In  a  pai> 
ticular  bracket,  we  did  not  And  very  many  instances  where  a  dual 
trader  had  both  traded  for  a  customer  and  traded  for  his  own  ac- 
count. That  does  not  mean  that  across  other  brackets  that  particu- 
lar individual  did  not  switch  from  becoming  a  trader,  a  broker,  to  a 
trader  who  is  a  proprietary  trader. 

Mr.  English.  I  guess  the  point  that  I  am  making  thou^  is  that 
here  on  one  hand  you  state  back  in  1986  that  this  is  sometUng 
that  is  a  low  frequency  situation.  It  is  something  that  does  not 
occur  that  often.  If  that  is  the  case,  I  do  not  understand  then  why 
it  can  be  such  a  big  deal  this  year.  The  other  part  of  it  is  that  from 
your  testimony,  you  are  talking  about  a  theoretical  overview.  Does 
that  mean  that  it  haa  little  feict  and  a  lot  of  rhetoric  when  we  talk 
about  the  question  of  dued  trading  on  your  study? 

Mr.  Grossman.  At  the  moment  I  have  not  yet  done  the  empirical 
part  of  the  study.  I  have  finished  outlining  the  work  that  needs  to 
be  done  for  the  empirical.  I  do  not  believe  there  is  any  rhetoric 
here.  It  is  an  outline  that  is  a  theoretical  framework  used  to  pro- 
vide a  guidance  as  to  what  should  be  sought  for  in  the  data.  Let  me 
just  emphasize  agEiin  and  with  respect  to  your  previous  remark 
about  the  low  frequency  of  dual  trading,  what  we  said  was  that  the 
dual  trading  has  a  low  frequency  in  a  particular  bracket  But  a 
given  individual  who  trades  in  a  particular  bracket  only  for  him- 
self  may  in  another  bracket  trade  only  for  customers. 

The  terms  that  we  have  used  in  the  paper  that  you  were  quoting) 
even  though  that  individual  across  two  brackets  had  en^iged  in  a 
lot  of  dual  trading  in  the  sense  that  in  bracket  one,  he  had  traded 
only  for  himself,  and  in  bracket  two,  he  had  traded  only  for  cus- 
tomers, in  each  bracket  he  had  tretded  only  for  himself  or  only  for 
customers.  So  on  a  bracket-per-bracket  basis,  there  was  not  a  great 
incidence  of  dual  trading,  but  across  the  whole  day  there  may  well 
have  been  a  large  incidence  of  dual  trading.  It  is  the  fact  that  there 
is  not  a  lot  of  dual  trading  within  a  particular  bracket  that  lessens 
the  occasions  where  front  running  abuses  can  occur, 

Mr.  English.  I  believe  you  also  stated  in  ihe  pamphlet  that  a  1- 
minute  bracketing  would  constitute  regulatory  overkill. 

Mr.  Grossman.  Ib  that  a  quote? 

Mr.  English.  We  would  be  happy  to  give  you  the  page  number,  if 
you  would  like  for  us  to  dig  it  up  for  you. 

Mr.  Gbossman.  No,  I  do  not  remember.  I  am  just  asking,  are  you 
quoting? 

Mr.  English.  No,  it  is  not  a  direct  quote,  but  that  is  tiie  context. 

Mr.  Grossman.  I  think  what  we  had  done  at  the  time  was  look  at 
the  costs  emd  benefits  of  the  proposed  r^ulation  and  we  had  used 
facts  to  meeisure  those  costs,  to  estimate  those  costs  and  facts  on 
dual  trading  to  estimate  those  benefits.  And  we  have  found  at  that 


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time  that  the  facts  were  such  that  t^e  costs  seem  to  be  higher  than 
the  benefits. 

Mr.  English.  And  given  the  fact  and  certainly  given  your  testi- 
mony here  today,  before  you  had  done  the  study  that  you  theoreti- 
cally alreeidy  support  the  concept  of  dual  trading.  You  seem  to 
have  some  very  definite  ideas  before  you  had  done  the  study  with 
regard  to  that.  And  also  given  the  fact  that  you  have  been  retained 
by  the  Chicago  Board  of  Trade  which  also  supports  dual  trading, 
can  ^ou  tell  us  that  we  are  going  to  receive  an  objective  study  on 
this  issue? 

Mr.  Grossman.  You  should  understand  that  I  thought  everybody 
agreed,  correct  me  if  I  am  wrong,  that  ^ere  are  potential  benefits 
to  dual  trading? 

Mr.  E^NGLiSH.  No,  that  is  not  the  question.  Let  me  make  the 
point.  I  do  not  wemt  you  taking  off  on  another  angle  because  basi- 
cally what  we  are  coming  down  to,  on  one  hand  you  come  here,  you 
testified  you  are  very  strongly  in  support  of  dual  trading.  Two,  you 
have  been  employed  b^  a  firm  that  strongly  supports  dual  trading, 
and  three,  you  are  telhng  ub  you  are  going  to  do  a  study. 

It  is  hard  for  me  to  understand  how  you  could  have  an  objective 
study  when  you  have  already  reached  the  conclusion.  I  do  not  un- 
derstand. I  am  certainly  not  a  Ph.D.  and  I  do  not  go  around  doing 
studies,  but  it  was  always  my  understanding  whenever  you  con- 
ducted these  studies,  you  are  supposed  to  be  somewhat  objective 
and  you  are  supposed  to  go  and  try  to  learn  an  euiswer,  not  know- 
ing the  answer  before  you  went  in  and  then  try  to  prove  that  it  is 
right. 

Mr.  Geosshan.  Even  though  you  are  not  a  Ph.D.,  I  should  be  ar- 
ticulate enough  to  be  able  to  explain  to  you  what  I  am  doing  and 
why  I  am  doing  it,  and  I  hope  you  will  allow  me  to  do  so.  This 
study  and  the  outliiie  that  I  have  given  you  discusses  the  benefits 
of  dual  trading  and  how  you  measure  those  benefits  and  where  you 
should  look  for  those  benefits.  There  may  well  be  coste  to  dual  trad- 
ing and  those  costs  have  to  do  with  the  abuses  that  are  eissociated 
with  duel  trading.  What  1  think  needs  to  be  done  to  come  to  an 
appropriate  economic  cost  benefit  analysis  is  to  think  of  where  you 
would  look  for  the  benefits  and  measure  the  magnitude  of  those 
benefits. 

What  I  have  set  out  to  you  is  where  I  would  look  for  those  bene- 
fits. Now  the  actual  numerical  magnitude  of  those  benefite  are  not 
something  one  is  predisposed  toward,  they  may  turn  out  to  be  eco- 
nomically negligible.  And  if  certain  evidence  arises  that  the  ^uses 
are  not  economicidly  n^ligible  in  terms  of  their  costs,  then  though 
I  have  elucidated  where  tiiose  benefits  are,  the  fact  that  they  are 
sufficiently  small  relative  to  the  cost  would  mean  that  we  should 
restrict  dual  trading. 

So  the  mere  fact  that  one  has  from  a  theoretical  point  of  view 
said  where  the  benefits  would  be  sought  after,  does  not  mean  Uiat 
one  is  predisposed  to  the  economic,  numerical  magnitiules  of  those 
benefits.  I  am  certainly  not  so  predisposed  and  I  could  not  off  the 
top  of  my  head  even  give  you  a  ballpark  guess  In  doUars  as  to  what 
the  magnitude  of  those  benefits  are.  1  should  mention  to  you  that 
there  are  no  studies  of  dual  tradii^.  There  are  no  studies  of  the 
benefits  of  dual  tretding  or  the  cost  c^  dual  trading.  I  think  this  ia  a 


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completely  new  area  and  I  would  urge  you  to  allow  studies  to  go 
forth  to  measure  the  economic  quantity  of  dollar  values  involved  to 
get  a  notion  of  what  the  costs  and  benefits  are  of  the  quantitiee 
being  r^ulated. 

Mr.  English.  I  am  not  the  one  who  is  paying  for  it.  You  would 
have  to  talk  to  the  folks  who  are  paying  for  the  study.  Thank  you 
vB]^  much.  Dr.  Grossman.  We  appreciate  your  testimony. 

"nie  next  witness  is  Mr.  Warren  Lebeck  ^m  the  National  Grain 
Trade  Council  here  in  Washington,  DC.  Mr.  Lebeck,  we  want  to 
welcome  you  here  today.  And  as  we  have  told  our  other  witnesses, 
if  you  would  care  to  summarize  your  testimony,  the  written  testi- 
mony will  be  made  a  part  of  the  record. 

STATEMENT  OF  WARREN  LEBECK,  ON  BEHALF  OF  THE 
NATIONAL  GRAIN  TRADE  COUNCIL 

Mr.  Lebeck.  Thank  you  very  much.  Well,  I  am  not  even  going  to 
summarize  my  testimony.  We  have  submitted  a  copy  for  the  record, 
but  after  being  briefed  on  Tuesday's  hearings,  I  gatiier  that  you 
have  heard  several  times  what  is  in  the  statement  and  I  do  not 
think  that  it  needs  to  be  repeated,  as  long  as  it  is  in  the  record.  But 
as  a  consequence  I  was  advised  that  the  conmiittee  might  be  better 
served  and  more  interested  on  comments  or  questions  that  it  had 
raised  Tuesday,  especially  on  parts  of  section  101,  and  with  your 
permission,  Mr.  Chairmeui,  and  respectfully  hoping  only  to  be  help- 
ful, I  would  like  to  give  some  personal  views  based  on  years  of  m- 
servation  of  this  business  at  close  hand. 

And  I  think  eis  you  know,  and  maybe  not  many  people  in  the 
room  know  for  me  this  is  deja  vu.  I  do  not  know  tmt  this  is  tbe 
same  chair  that  I  sat  in,  but  it  is  the  same  place  I  sat  in  16  years 
ago,  and  at  that  time  there  were  questions  about  why  did  soybeans 
go  to  $12.90  a  bushel?  You  have  not  heard  any  f>rices  lilra  that 
today.  And  why  did  the  Board  of  Trtide  say  liquidation  only  in  July 
futures? 

So  I  have  been  there  and  I  might  say  almost  reluctantly,  I  am 
here  again.  But  just  a  few  views  of  35  years  of  observing  ^turee 
trading.  Banning  dual  trading  at  any  level  means  that  choices  will 
have  to  be  made  and  the  very  real  fear  is  that  the  best,  most  com- 
petent members  will  either  choose  to  trade  for  their  own  accounts 
or  only  for  customers  who  sign  releases.  And  I  am  going  to  get  to 
that  a  little  later. 

It  seems  to  me  that  in  most  instances  traders  would  opt  to  trade 
for  their  own  account  if  they  had  or  if  they  wanted  to  have  a  posi- 
tion. I  would  hate  under  those  circumstances  to  be  a  floor  manager 
tnecause  I  would  have  to  spend  every  morning  up  until  that  bell 
rang  at  9:30  finding  out  who  is  going  to  fill  orders  today  and  who  is 
not  going  to  fill  orders  today,  and  I  have  to  wonder  if  that  is  the 
way  to  assure  customers  of  the  b^t  possible  service.  If  thrae  was  a 
monumental  news  item — Gorbachev  deposed,  a  shooting  war  some- 
where— would  traders  want  to  broker  or  trade  and  I  tmnk  most  of 
them  would  want  to  trade  with  monumental  news  aiuj  that  leaves 
you  with  who  is  going  to  fill  the  order  then. 

I  am  talking  about  customer  releases  which  is  one  of  the  things 
that  is  in  your  bUl.  A  dual  trading  broker  would  be  limited  tofifi- 


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ing  orders  only  from  customers  who  had  signed  releases.  Some 
large  commercials  have  indicated  to  me  that  they  would  sign  re- 
leases. They  already  use  brokers  who  trade  and  they  know  they 
can  trust  them.  They  have  confidence  in  their  floor  personnel  to 
see  that  their  orders  are  filled  fairly.  And  since  this  type  of  custom- 
er generally  provides  brokers  with  the  most  business,  the  most 
orders,  and  gives  them  the  opportunity  to  trftde,  there  would  be 
where  your  best,  most  competent  people  would  be,  leaving  smaller 
commercial  houses  with  less  competent  brokers. 

I  do  not  believe  that  commission  houses  would  s^  blanket  re- 
leases. I  do  not  think  their  attorneys  would  let  them.  They  would 
insist  that  each  customer  decide  which  type  of  broker  he  or  she 
wants  executing  orders.  In  the  view  of  the  publicity  in  this  pro- 
posed legislation,  it  would  be  my  guess  zind  that  is  all  it  could  be 
obviously,  most  public  customers  would  not  sign  releases.  And  thus, 
commission  houses  would  have  to  Hnd  bo^  types  of  brokers  be- 
cause they  had  both  types  of  customers. 

Referring  to  Commission  discretion,  even  with  the  Commission 
given  the  discretion  in  your  bill,  it  still  would  be  a  time-consuming 
affair.  That  is  just  the  nature  of  Government  and  requiring  reports 
to  a  congressioned  committee,  while  I  understand  it,  I  believe  in  it, 
I  do  not  think  there  is  saiy  doubt  it  would  make  the  CFTC  extreme- 
ly cautious.  And  this  is  in  no  way  a  criticism  of  the  CFTC  or  of  the 
requirement,  it  is  just  a  fact  that  such  a  requirement  invites  bu- 
reaucratic caution,  and  that  could  be  to  the  detriment  of  the 
market. 

I  know  there  has  been  a  lot  of  talk  here  today,  especially  by  the 
Congresswoman  from  Indiana,  worrying  about  liquidity  and  trying 
to  determine  what  is  and  what  is  not  a  liquid  market.  I  do  go  back 
16  years  to  the  soybean  meu'ket  zind  from  personal  observation,  Mr. 
Chairman,  there  were  times  when  between  trades  there  was  more 
than  5  cents  and  yet  there  were  a  lot  of  activity  in  those  particular 
markets. 

The  council  does  feel  strongly  about  the  issue  of  dual  trading  be- 
cause as  commercial  users  of  futures  markets,  our  members  do  not 
have  the  luxury  of  being  able  to  stay  out  of  the  markets.  They 
must  be  able  to  be  buyers  and  sellers  of  futures  contracts  during 
every  minute  that  the  futures  markets  are  open.  The  economic 
beneiEit  of  additional  liquidity  is  difficult  to  measure,  but  it  is  real 
and  cannot  be  refuted.  Section  101  would  force  the  unknown  cost  of 
doing  without  it  onto  the  commercial  users  of  the  market.  This 
would  raise  costs  not  only  for  market  users,  but  for  fill  who 
produce,  use,  or  consume  grain,  in  short  all  of  us.  It  seems  clear  to 
the  council  that  the  cost  of  this  supposed  remedy  greatly  exceeds 
any  perceived  benefits. 

And  also  it  seems  to  me,  Mr.  Chairman,  that  we  have  talked 
about,  I  think,  you  have  mentioned  severed  times  today,  the  stick 
and  the  carrot,  there  is  an  old  saying  that  if  you  really  want  to  get 
someone  or  something's  attention  that  a  2  by  4  appropriately  ap- 
plied does  the  job  very  well.  It  is  my  feeling  that  the  2  by  4's  that 
have  been  wielded  by  Tony  Valukas  and  by  this  committee  have 
done  just  exactly  that.  They  have  gotten  the  attention  of  the  ex- 
chemges.  And  I  think  that  was  dramatically  illustrated  by  the  testi- 
mony here  today.  And  it  would  be  my  hope  that  there  C£ui  be  some 


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compromise  to  allow  the  audit  trails  to  do  the  job.  I  think  that  in 
all  casefl  it  is  better  to  use  medicine  rather  than  surgery.  You  can 
always  keep  surgery  as  an  alternative. 

The  efficiency  of  our  futures  markets  must  be  preserved  and  en- 
hanced. The  council  urges  you  to  keep  an  eye  toweird  what  greater 
contributions  American  futures  markets  can  provide  our  country. 
This  very  committee  continues  to  ^apple  with  the  issues  of  price 
risks  in  the  production  of  U.S.  commodities.  As  production  deci- 
sions continue  to  move  toweird  marketdriven  from  Govemmentr 
driven,  the  classic  risk-shifting  functions  of  futures  markets  will 
become  increasingly  attractive. 

I  do  appreciate  the  opportunity  to  be  here,  and  having  had  some 
experience  with  a  couple  of  times  when  there  was  liquidation  only, 
if  there  are  any  questions,  I  will  do  my  best. 

[The  prepar^  statement  of  Mr.  Lebeck  appears  at  the  conclusion 
of  the  hearing.] 

Mr.  English.  Thank  you  very  much,  Mr.  Lebeck.  I  appreciate 
that.  Several  exchanges  are  part  of  your  Council,  are  they  not? 

Mr.  Lebbck.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  English.  So  you  are  very  familiar  with  that  aspect  of  the 
trade.  Of  the  involvement  that  you  have  had,  you  mentioned  the 
public  sector  or  you  were  talking  about  the  public  individuals,  I 
think,  trading,  eis  opposed  to  grain  companies  and  others  that  may 
be  looking  for  various  reasons  to  become  involved.  What  percent- 
£^e  of  the  trade  is  made  up  of  those  individuals  that  simply  may  be 
cattlemen  or  a  farmer  or  whatever  that  may  be  hedging,  say  in  the 
Board  of  Trade?  You  are  familiar  with  the  Board  of  Trade,  I  know. 

Mr.  Lkbeck.  The  last  figure  I  heard  on  farmer  participation,  pro- 
ducer pcuiicipation  in  the  grain  markets,  and  I  have  to  confesB,  as 
you  know  I  have  not  been  that  active  in  the  last  few  years,  was  it 
ranged  probably  between  6  and  10  percent.  I  think  tiiat  the 
chances  are  probably  pretty  good  that  that  has  increased  but  I 
would  not  think  it  had  increased  a  significant  amount. 

Mr.  English.  You  think  it  has  increased? 

Mr.  Lebeck.  Yes,  sir;  I  do. 

Mr.  English.  I  was  looking  at  the  contracts  that  we  have  and 
ptu^icularly  the  big  ones.  For  instance,  now  on  the  Board  of  Trade, 
the  big  contract  that  is  being  traded  is  not  wheat  or  com  or  soy- 
beans even,  basically  the  big  ones  £u*e  T  bonds. 

Mr.  Lbbbck.  My  answer  was  producers,  meaning  farmers  in  the 
agricultural  markets. 

Mr.  English.  But  we  are  talking  about  the  entire  business  on  an 
expanse. 

Mr.  Lebbck.  I  would  have  no  way  of  answering  that.  That  would 
have  to  come  ftom  the  Chicago  Board  of  Trade. 

Mr.  English.  OK,  but  coming  with  these  big  numbers,  296,000 
contracts  being  traded  on  an  average  each  day,  as  opposed  to  sf^ 
13,000  for  wheat  or  37,000  for  com,  or  even  44,000  for  soybeans. 
Probably  it  has  shrunk  up  considerably  since  the  time  you  were 
talking  about,  has  it  not? 

Mr.  Lebbck.  Are  you  saying  that  the  agricultural  volume  is  not 
as  great? 

Mr.  EInglish.  Or  Euiy  individufds  such  as  that.  Whenever  you 
have  these  new  contracts  that  have  come  on  the  exchange,  big  con- 


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tracts,  huge  trades  taking  place,  high  volumes  of  trades  taking 
place  every  day.  That  the  percentage  of  those  individuals,  if  it  was 
back  during  the  time  you  were  talking  about,  5  or  10  percent  on 
the  agricultural  contracts,  if  we  are  talking  about  the  entire  ex- 
change itself,  that  has  probably  shrunk  down  would  it  be  fair  to 
say  less  than  2  percent,  do  you  speculate? 
Mr.  Lebeck.  If  you  back  me  into  a  comer,  I  would  agree  with 


Mr.  Lebeck.  My  figure  was  the  number  of  fanners  who  were 
using  the  markets  as  opposed  to  how  much  their  volume  was  com- 
pared to  the  total  volume. 

Mr.  English.  Right.  Well,  I  agree  with  that  But  whenever  we 
talk  about  the  question  of  dual  trading,  what  we  are  talking  are 
mature  liquid  contracts.  And  say  on  the  Board  of  Trade,  T  bonds 
are  definitely  mature  liquid  contracts,  would  you  not  agree? 

Mr.  Lebeck.  Yea,  I  would  agree.  And  I  am  very  very  happy  that  I 
happened  to  be  president  of  the  exchange  when  that  contract  came 
out. 

Mr.  English.  Great,  and  I  am  happy  too. 

Mr.  Lebeck.  I  have  just  been  handed  a  note  which  reminds  me  of 
something  I  should  know  better  than  the  person  who  handed  me 
the  note.  NFA  transaction  fees  which  apply  to  nonmembers  of  ex- 
changes Emd  that  does  not  mean  just  individuals,  but  any  non- 
members,  range  in  the  mid-20  percent. 

Mr.  English.  But  that  would  be  farms  and  whatever  it  may  be. 

Mr.  Lebeck.  It  could  well  be  pools  and  firms,  not  just  individuals, 
yes. 

Mr.  English.  That  does  not  give  us  a  very  good  feel  for  what  we 
are  talking  about.  The  ■other  point  that  I  wanted  to  go  down  to,  to 
bring  me  around  to  that  is  basically  what  we  are  saying  the  people 
who  are  trading  on  the  exchanges — the  m^ority — are  big  compa- 
nies. With  regard  to  grains,  we  are  talking  about  the  big  compa- 
nies. We  are  talking  about  Cargill,  Bunge  and  whoever  may  be 
wanting  for  whatever  reason  hedge  or  maybe  even  speculate  the 
markets,  correct? 

Mr.  Lebeck.  Yes. 

Mr.  English.  OK,  given  that  and  you  made  this  statement  with 
regard  to  a  dual  trader  is  really  trusted.  They  trust  that  broker  on 
the  floor? 

Mr.  Lebeck.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  English.  Well  that  is  a  different  story  than  what  we  got 
irom  those  companies.  Those  companies  tell  us,  well  we  do  not  do 
that.  We  do  not  trust  them. 

Mr.  Lebeck.  That  surprises  me  because  the  ones  I  have  talked  to, 
including  one  of  the  firms  you  nfuned,  have  told  me  that  they 
would  B^  releases  for  all  their  brokers. 

Mr.  Polish.  They  would  indeed.  And  the  reason  that  they 
would  is  because  they  have  their  own  people  on  the  floor.  They 
have  their  own  people  looking  over  the  shoiuder  of  that  broker  and 
they  have  their  own  surveillance  system.  In  other  words,  they  have 
their  own  built-in  protection. 

Mr.  Lebeck.  I  mentioned  that  in  my  statement. 


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Mr.  English.  But  that  being  the  case,  it  is  not  the  question  of 
whether  they  trust  the  broker,  what  they  are  doing  is  they  are 
trusting  their  surveillance  system  that  they  personally  have  put  in 
place,  correct? 

Mr.  Lebeck.  For  whatever  reason,  they  trust  their  broker. 

Mr.  English.  But  whenever  we  are  talking  about  these  individ- 
uals, they  do  not  have  the  surveillance  system.  They  do  not  have 
somebody  there  to  look  over  their  shoulder.  We  had  the  gentleman 
here  from  the  Minneapolis  Grain  Exchange.  He  was  asked  the 
question,  could  we  have  100  percent  perfect  system.  He  said,  yes, 
you  stick  somebody  with  each  one  of  those  brokers  looking  over  his 
shoulder,  yes,  we  could  costwise.  And  that  to  a  great  extent,  not  to- 
tally, but  to  a  great  extent  is  what  large  companies  have  done  and 
that  is  the  reason  they  have  built-in  the  protection  themselvea.  Is 
that  not  true? 

Mr.  Lebeck.  Yes. 

Mr.  English.  And  then  the  other  thing,  we  get  down  to  the  ques- 
tion of  dual  trading.  It  was  said  we  have  the  gentleman  who  was 
hired  by  the  Board  of  Trade,  Dr.  Grossmfin,  and  Dr.  Grossman's  ac- 
count here  stating,  there  is  not  that  much  dual  trading  taking 
place.  So  when  we  start  talking  about  the  markets  moving  <m 
shore  and  when  we  start  talkii^  about  the  impact  that  this  is 
going  to  have  on  markets,  the  huge  Impact,  and  then  we  come  in 
and  Gnd,  according  to  the  professor  who  did  the  study  back  in  1986, 
and  he  is  stating  that  the  frequency  of  dual  trading  is  itself  low.  I 
guess  it  starts  kind  of  neirrowing  this  thing  down  and  makes  you 
wonder  if  we  may  be  splitting  hairs  on  a  number  of  these  issues. 

It  appears  to  me  as  I  mentioned  earlier,  if  what  we  are  really 
talking  about  here,  taking  away  a  lot  of  the  rhetoric,  we  are  talk- 
ing about  degrees.  How  much  of  the  standard  ftre  we  going  to 
have?  How  much  are  we  going  to  strengthen  that  standard?  And  I 
know  in  talking  to  you  that  you  support  a  higher  standard. 

Mr.  Lebeck.  Absolutely. 

Mr.  English.  So  I  just  want  to  say,  I  think  it  is  important  for  us 
to  go  through  and  to  bring  a  little  bit  of  this  out  and  should  point 
out  that  what  we  are  looking  for  is  the  overall  public.  It  is  the  in- 
t^rity  of  that  system  that  I  think  that  makes  it  so  successful  and 
makes  it  so  appealing  to  people  not  only  in  this  country,  but  from 
overseas.  We  just  want  to  build  just  a  shade  more  inte^ty  into  it. 

Mr.  Lebeck.  I  do  not  think  anybody  I  heard  today  would  disagree 
with  that.  I  would  mfike  a  couple  of  comments.  Back  in  my  d^re,  I 
got  in  trouble  periodically  by  having  that  attitude,  sir.  There  nave 
been — I  know  the  Board  of  Trade  and  I  think  the  Merc — ^both  have 
had  studies  on  how  much  of  their  volume  is  done  by  dual  traders 
and  the  amounts  that  I  recall  just  ofFhand  run  fl*om  20  percent  on 
up.  So  I  realize  what  is  great  and  small.  I  do  not  know  what  the 
professor — I  do  not  understand  these  Ph.0'5  too  well  like  ytjta, 
means  by  great  or  small,  but  I  think  that  the  volumes  do  run  in 
those  ranges. 

Mr.  English.  I  think  we  heard  20  percent  being  used  today. 

Mr.  Lebeck.  Did  we  not  hear  that  today? 

Mr.  English.  Yes,  the  20  percent  was  brought  up.  Mi^ybe  the 
Board  of  Trade  ought  to  check  with  the  professor  in  what  it  i 
by  low.  I  think  that  is  a  good  point. 


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Mr.  Lebeck,  we  are  going  to  look  forward  to  working  with  you.  I 
know  we  have  already  talked  about  some  of  these  areas  and  we  feel 
tiiat  you  all  can  help  us  a  great  deal,  and  given  the  experience  that 
you  have  had.  And  I  know  that  you  are  very  interested  in  seeing 
stronger  standards.  We  are  going  to  be  looking  forward  to  working 
with  you. 

Mr.  Lebeck.  As  you  are,  and  I  thank  you. 

Mr.  Bnolish.  I  appreciate  your  testimony.  Thfink  you  very  much. 

Mr.  Jontz,  we  have  a  panel  up  next.  I  am  going  to  let  you  lead 
off  by  introducing  one  of  our  witnesses,  if  you  would,  one  of  your 
constituents? 

Mr.  JoNTZ.  Thank  you  very  much,  Mr.  Chairman.  I  am  delighted 
to  have  the  opportunity  to  do  that.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  know  you  have 
conducted  very  extensive  hearings  today  and  earher  this  week,  and 
you  have  heard  from  the  president  of  t^e  exchfinges,  find  you  have 
heard  from  academics,  and  you  have  heard  from  a  lot  of  different 
perspectives. 

I  am  glad  to  welcome  a  constituent  from  my  district  who  repre- 
sents a  very  important  perspective  to  all  of  us  find  that  is  the  local 
country  elevator  and  farmer.  I  think  it  is  important  that  we  hear 
from  them  too.  So  I  am  delighted  to  introduce  to  you  John  Fre- 
drickson  who  is  a  partner  in  Kentland  Elevator  and  Supply  in 
Kentland  and  Newton  County  in  my  district.  I  have  represented 
Newton  County  in  one  capacity  or  another  for  15  years,  and  I  know 
that  Mr.  Fredrickson  brings  to  us  today  a  very  important  perspec- 
tive, and  I  believe  the  other  witnesses  on  this  panel  do  also. 

I  want  to  conclude  my  comments,  Mr.  Chairman,  by  thanking 
you  agftin  for  the  tremendous  effort  you  have  put  into  these  hear- 
ing, and  even  though  I  am  no  longer  a  member  of  your  subcom- 
mittee,  I  am  going  to  be  following  your  lead  very  closely  and  I 
know  that  you  have  done  a  very  thorough  and  comprehensive  job 
with  these  hearings.  And  I  thfink  you  very  much  for  allowing  me 
to  sit  in  this  afternoon  for  just  a  little  bit  of  the  testimony. 

Mr.  English.  Delighted  to  have  you  back  and  feel  free  to  come 
by  any  time.  It  is  always  a  pleasure  to  have  you  with  us,  and  Mr. 
FVedrickson,  the  very  high  recommendation  that  you  got  and  I 
want  to  introduce  our  other  witnesses  who  have  equally  high  cre- 
dentials. Mr.  Dave  Danker  who  is  from  Perryville,  MifBouri.  I  be- 
lieve, Mr.  Coleman,  I  am  not  sure  you  are  from  his  district  are 
you? 

Mr.  Danker.  Congressman  Emerson's. 

Mr.  English.  Congressman  Emerson's  district,  OK.  And  we  have 
Mr.  Joseph  Kane,  who  is  floor  broker  with  the  Chicago  Board  of 
Trade.  Mr.  Kane,  we  are  happy  to  have  you  here  today,  and  Mr. 
Ralph  Weems,  who  is  a  former  president,  American  Soybeem  AsBO- 
ciation  from  West  Point,  Mississippi.  Mr.  Weems,  we  are  happy  to 
have  you,  and  Mr.  Fredrickson,  we  will  let  you  start  off  our  testi- 
mony. And  as  we  have  told  our  other  witnesses,  if  you  would  care 
to  summarize  your  testimony,  your  written  testimony  will  be  made 
a  part  of  the  record. 


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STATEMENT  OF  JOHN  L.  FREDRICKSON,  PARTNER.  KENIUUID 

ELEVATOR  AND  SUPPLY,  INC. 
Mr.  FREDRICKSON.  Thank  you.  Chairman  English  and  also  thank 

you  Congreflsman  Jontz  for  the  introduction.  As  Congreesman 
Jontz  introduced  me,  I  am  a  partner  in  Kentland  Elevator  and 
Supply,  a  country  elevator  located  in  Northwest,  Indiana.  I  have 
been  involved  in  the  management  of  grain  elevators  for  over  20 
years,  and  involved  in  the  ownership  of  this  present  facility  for  the 
past  11  years.  I  also  own  and  operate  a  small  fEum,  serve  as  an  offi- 
cer of  our  State  grain  and  feed  association,  and  serve  as  director  of 
an  insurance  company. 

The  firm  I  represent  is  an  independently  owned  elevator  with 
three  locations.  The  primary  business  of  our  country  elevator  is 
purchasing  grain  from  area  farmers  and  reselling  it  to  grain  proo- 
essors,  grain  exporters,  livestock,  and  poultry  feeders. 

When  we  purchase  grain  from  a  farmer,  we  are  at  risk  in  the 
marketplace  until  we  have  sold  the  grain.  We  may  choose  to  sell 
the  grain  through  a  user  for  immediate  delivery,  or  we  may  choose 
to  keep  the  grain  in  one  of  our  storeige  facilities  to  sell  at  a  lat^ 
time,  it  we  choose  to  store  the  grain,  we  must  transfer  the  market 
risk  to  someone  else  immediately.  This  is  accomplished  by  hedging 
the  grain  in  the  futures  mEU*ket  at  the  Chicago  Board  of  Trade.  We 
place  an  order  to  sell  futures  contracts  for  the  amount  of  grain  we 
have  purchased.  When  we  decide  it  is  no  longer  economically  fsasi- 
ble  to  hold  the  gritin,  the  futures  portion  of  this  transaction  is 
oflset  by  buying  ftitures  contracts  at  the  same  time  the  cash  grain 
is  sold.  Our  elevator's  margin  is  the  selling  basis,  lees  the  buying 
basis. 

The  execution  of  the  futures  orders  is  a  critical  component  of  the 
transaction.  It  must  be  completed  at  the  best  possible  price  and  ex- 
ecuted very  promptly.  The  liquidity  and  flexibility  provided  by  dual 
traders  who  can  trade  for  their  own  account  as  well  as  execute  cus- 
tomer orders,  is  a  contributing  factor  for  our  country  elevator  to 
provide  the  best  price  at  the  lowest  cost. 

Sometimes  we  may  determine  that  it  is  not  economic  to  sell  the 
cash  grain  as  the  futures  expiration  approaches  and  decide  to  roll 
the  hedge  forward  to  a  deferred  contract  month.  This  transaction  is 
called  a  spread,  since  it  involves  the  simultaneous  purchase  and 
sale  of  futures  contracts  in  different  months.  Successful  executiim 
of  a  spread  trade  is  obtained  by  utilizing  an  experienced  dual 
trader  who  can  1^  into  the  position  by  executing  one  side  of  the 
trade  when  futures  prices  for  that  contract  are  more  favorable.  He 
may  not  be  able  to  obtain  the  desired  price  from  the  other  leg  <^ 
the  spread,  but  may  place  it  in  his  own  account  at  possibly  a  slight 
loss  in  order  to  satisfy  the  customer  and  keep  his  business.  The 
ability  of  the  dual  trader  to  obtain  favorable  prices  for  spread 
treides  helps  increase  the  liquidity  in  relatively  less  deferred  con- 
tract months,  and  results  in  more  accurate  indications  to  market 
participants  of  the  cost  of  carrying  commodities. 

The  banning  of  dual  trading  could  increase  transaction  costa  for 
our  elevator  by  widening  bids  and  offers  due  to  less  pit  participB- 
tion.  This  increased  cost  will  cause  either  a  reduction  in  our  return 


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on  investment,  or  most  importantly  a  reduction  in  prices  paid  to 
farmers  by  our  firm. 

Dual  trading  increases  the  supply  of  both  brokers  and  floor  trad- 
ers because  a  dual  trader  can  earn  income  from  two  sources  to 
cover  cost  of  training,  an  exchange  seat,  and  time  spent  on  the 
floor.  Dual  trading  encourages  greater  competition  between  bro- 
kers, thus  keeping  commission  costs  down.  If  duEil  trading  is 
banned,  the  best  brokers  will  trade  for  their  own  account,  decreas- 
ing the  number  of  brokers  available  to  execute  orders  for  our  eleva- 
tor. Thia  will  reduce  the  liquidity  of  the  marketplace,  thus  making 
it  more  difficult  to  have  our  orders  executed  promptly  at  the 
market. 

Dual  trading  is  voluntary  on  the  part  of  customers;  customers 
can  now  prohibit  their  brokers  from  dual  trading  if  tiiey  choose. 
Additionally,  U.S.  futures  exchanges  are  engaged  in  a  continuing 
process  of  improving  their  market  surveillance  systems.  If  abuses 
can  be  curbed  through  adequate  surveillance,  there  is  no  reason  to 
eliminate  the  practice  like  dual  trading  which  contributes  to  the  li- 
quidity for  which  American  markets  are  known. 

Simply  stated  the  ideal  l^islation  would  preserve  dual  treiding 
while  ensuring  the  exchanges  bear  the  responsibilities  for  detecting 
its  possible  abuse.  I  strongly  urge  Congress  to  eveduate  the  pros 
emd  cons  of  dual  trading  before  making  a  final  decision  on  this 
vital  issue.  Your  decision  will  effect  the  entire  agricultural  indus- 
try, as  well  as  the  future  of  our  markets. 

rnie  prepared  statement  of  Mr.  Fredrickson  appears  at  the  con- 
clusion of  the  hearing.] 

Mr.  English.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Fredrickson.  Mr.  Danker. 

STATEMENT  OF  DAVE  DANKER.  VICE  PRESIDENT  AND  GENERAL 
MANAGER,  BUCHHEIT  GRAIN,  INC. 

Mr.  Danker.  Chairman  English  and  members  of  the  committee, 
my  name  is  Dave  Danker,  and  I  am  the  vice  president  and  general 
manager  of  Buchheit  Grain,  Inc.,  located  in  Perryville,  Rfiesouri. 
Buchheit  Grain  is  a  small,  family  owned  feed,  grain,  and  general 
merchandise  business  founded  in  1934. 

My  purpose  in  coming  here  to  speak  to  you  today  is  to  attempt  to 
explain  how  we  use  the  futures  markets,  in  pzirticularly  the  spread 
market  to  effectively  manage  our  business,  and  how  that  relates  to 
one  of  the  subjects  your  committee  is  reviewing,  that  is,  dual  trad- 
ing. We  have  approximately  1,250,000  bushels  of  space  in  two  dif- 
ferent locations.  In  order  to  survive  as  a  grain  merchant,  we  must 
fill  all  of  our  space  at  harvest  find  hopefully  handle  60  to  70  per- 
cent of  that  volume  once  again  after  hfu^est. 

In  order  to  manage  this  need  in  a  business-like  manner,  it  is  im- 
perative that  we  prespread  our  space  and  the  volume  of  grain  that 
we  hope  to  handle  post-harvest.  A  brief  example  of  prespreading 
would  be  a  simultaneous  purchasing  of  10,000  bushels  of  December 
com  futures  while  selling  10,000  of  March  com  futures.  As  the 
com  is  purchased  from  farmers  during  October,  we  would  simply 
sell  the  December  com  futures.  This  would  automatically  Bpreeid 
the  purchase  out  to  the  March  futures  position. 


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Freepreading  is  an  inexact  science,  but  aa  one  gains  experience, 
it  becomes  easier  to  establish  reasonable  goals  and  achieve  them. 
We  like  to  enter  our  spread  orders  prior  to  the  time  the  contract 
actually  trades.  Oftentimes  this  results  in  getting  a  good  fill  that 
may  never  be  available  at  any  other  time  during  tM  marketing 
cycle.  Quite  often,  due  to  poor  liquidity  in  those  distant  contract 
months,  our  broker  has  to  1^  a  wread  m  order  to  have  it  filled.  Bv 
l^ging  the  spread,  the  broker  first  takes  one  side  of  the  spread, 
then  fOls  the  other  side  as  soon  as  he  is  able. 

During  the  time  elapsed  between  the  execution  of  both  legs  of 
the  spread,  the  broker  assumes  the  risk  of  not  getting  the  spread 
filled  at  or  above  my  order.  If  he  fails  to  accomplish  that  flQ  ami 
ends  up  trading  the  spread  at  a  lesser  amount,  the  loes  is  for  his 
account.  The  broker's  ability  to  dual  trade  gives  him  an  opportuni- 
ty to  offset  these  losses  by  trading  for  his  own  account  througlunit 
uie  day.  I  feel  that  this  will  make  spread  brokers  more  willing  to 
take  chances  in  order  to  get  their  customers  the  beet  possible  fill, 
thereby  maintaining  their  reputation  and  position  in  the  market- 
place. 

I  had  a  personid  experience  with  this  situation  last  winter  that  I 
would  like  to  share  with  you.  Last  January,  I  b^;an  planting  for 
the  1989-1990  marketing  year.  I  budgeted  the  purchase  of  200,000 
bushels  of  soybeans  at  harvest.  And  I  estimated  that  we  oouLd  buy 
at  harvest,  store,  and  later  resell  soybean,  if  we  could  get  our  No- 
vember/March spreads  set  at  17  cents  per  bushel  or  bettor.  I  called 
my  trading  firm  and  entered  a  broker  to  spread  200  November/ 
March  soybeans  at  17  cents  or  better.  A  few  days  after  the  March 
contract  first  came  on  the  board,  my  spread  got  filled  at  19  cents. 
Given  what  I  know  about  spread  conditions  at  that  time,  I  have  to 
assume  that  the  trade  was  l^ged. 

And  I  realize  that  not  all  trades  have  such  a  happy  ending,  but  I 
believe  it  illustrates  my  point  that  if  you  trade  through  a  broker- 
age  firm  that  does  the  job  in  policing  and  controlling  the  trading 
activities  of  the  brokers  that  it  uses,  you  can  get  good  honest  fills. 
It  seems  to  me  that  if  one  is  knowledge^le  al^ut  tiie  current  con- 
ditions of  the  market,  offers  spreads,  options  and  some  futures 
transactions  at  a  given  level  or  better,  he  will  obtain  the  fill  he 
wants. 

The  key  to  obtaining  these  fills  is  in  prior  evaluation  of  the  qual- 
ity of  broker  that  you  choose  to  deal  with  and  in  the  existence  of 
surveillance  systems  that  detect  and  deter  abuse.  The  issue  is  not 
whether  the  broker  dual  trades.  The  reed  issue  is  whetiier  or  not 
there  are  adequate  monitoring  systems  in  place  to  detect  cases 
where  the  practice  of  dual  trading  is  abused. 

In  summary,  I  would  like  to  stress  that  1  feel  the  current  system 
of  allowing  brokers  to  both  fill  orders  and  take  ri^u  for  their  own 
account,  provides  a  more  liquid  meu'ket,  and  most  pnAeUy  a  more 
aggressive  trader.  The  system,  aa  it  exists,  has  provided  us  with  the 
structure  to  build  a  successful  small  business.  I  would  like  to  en- 
courage you  to  provide  a  means  for  protecting  and  improving  the 
integrity  of  the  current  system  of  dual  trading  rather  Uian^hang- 
ing  something  that,  in  my  mind,  already  works.  Thank  you. 

fThe  prepared  stetement  of  Mr.  Danker  appears  at  the  conclu- 
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Mr.  English.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Danker.  Mr.  Weems. 

STATEMENT  OF  RALPH  WEEMS,  FARMER,  FORMER  PRESIDENT, 
AMERICAN  SOYBEAN  ASSOCIATION 

Mr.  Weems.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman  and  Mr.  Colemeui  said 
members  of  this  subcommittee.  I  am  a  feirmer  from  West  Point, 
Mississippi.  I  believe  I  am  the  only  farmer  we  have  had  here  today. 
But  I  have  been  involved  with  soybeans  for  30  years.  I  have  been 
associated  with  the  Mississippi  Soybean  Association  for  22  of  those 
years,  and  I  worked  my  way  up  to  the  presidency  of  the  American 
Soybean  Association  in  1984.  I  should  briefly  depart  from  this  and 
say  that  the  views  that  I  am  expressing  today  are  mine  and  not 
necessarily  those  of  ASA. 

I  became  eissociated  with  the  CBOT  through  the  agricultural  ad- 
visory committee  in  1984.  I  was  elected  chairman  of  that  ag  adviso- 
ry committee  in  198S  and  the  chairmanship  of  that  committee  car- 
ried with  it  a  3-year  term  on  the  board  of  directors  as  a  public  di- 
rector, a  seat  that  I  held  until  February  1988. 

While  I  was  at  the  Chics^o  Board  of  Trade  as  an  outside  director, 
several  CEiaes  came  before  the  board  at  that  time,  one  which  I  vivid- 
ly remember  and  would  like  to  call  to  your  attention  at  this  time. 
It  had  to  do  with  a  trader  who  was  suspected  of  outside — not  out- 
side tradii^ — but  front  running  and  this  was  naturally  very  inter- 
esting to  me  Eis  a  farmer  to  see  how  a  fellow  director  would  ap- 
proach this  thing  with  me  as  an  outsider  on  their  group.  But,  sir,  it 
wEis  my  opinion  and  I  hold  that  opinion  to  this  day,  that  those  gen- 
tlemen took  that  hearing  to  the  deepest  part  of  their  heart  and 
that  they  did  their  dead  level  best  to  do  what  weis  supposed  to  be 
done  at  that  particular  time. 

The  board's  decision  on  that  case  was  explosion.  I  said  then  zmd  I 
repeat  now,  that  I  wish  every  farmer  in  America  could  have  been 
there  that  day  and  seen  what  happened.  Because  I  think  it  would 
increase  the  confidence  in  our  msirket  system  enormously.  I  have, 
as  I  stated,  had  tremendous  confidence  in  the  board  and  I  still  have 
that  confidence  today.  Thank  you,  sir. 

Mr.  Engush.  Thank  you  Mr.  Weems.  Mr.  Kane. 

STATEMENT  OF  JOSEPH  J.  KANE,  FLOOR  BROKER,  CHICAGO 

BOARD  OF  TRADE 
Mr.  Kane.  Chairman  English,  Mr.  Coleman,  and  Mr.  Jontz,  first 
I  would  like  to  thank  you  very  much.  Ralph  said  he  thinks  he  was 
the  only  farmer  here.  I  know  I  am  the  only  floor  broker  trader 
here.  My  name  is  Joseph  Kane.  I  am  a  member  of  the  Chicago 
Trade  since  1952.  I  have  also  been  a  member  of  numerous  other  ex- 
changes, including  Chicago  Mercantile  Exchange  and  the  New 
York  Coffee  and  Sugar  Exchange.  For  7  years,  I  was  the  director  of 
the  Chicago  Board  of  Trade  and  served  on  most  of  the  major  com- 
mittees of  the  exchange,  including  the  business  conduct  and  the 
floor  governor's  committee.  In  fact,  in  1968,  I  wets  the  chfdrman  of 
the  reorganization  committee  of  the  exchange  that  was  responsible 
for  introducing  public  members  to  our  board  of  directors,  also  out 
of  town  directors  to  our  board  of  directors,  and  creating  the  floor 


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Kovemor'B  committee  which  has  the  primary  responsibility  for  po- 
licing the  conduct  of  our  members  on  the  exchange  floor. 

I  was  bom,  raised,  find  educated  in  Chicago  and  I  am  the  father 
of  eight  children.  Many  of  my  children  have  worked  in  one  capac- 
ity or  another  in  the  futures  business.  I  have  been  at  the  Board  of 
Trade  so  long  that  I  can  say  that  I  knew  the  grandfathers  of  two  of 
our  present  directors.  I  say  this  for  a  reason  and  I  h<^  it  wiU 
become  apparent. 

I  know  the  Board  of  Trade's  rules,  customs,  and  practices.  I  have 
seen  those  rules,  customs,  and  practices  evolve.  I  have  also  seen  the 
competition  for  business  which  exists  on  the  floor  and  the  solid  eth- 
ical  standards  which  are  upheld  by  most  members  combined  as  a 
potent  force  for  the  protection  of  the  customer. 

Nevertheless,  I  know  that  this  subcommittee  is  concerned  about 
the  practice  of  dual  trading.  I  believe  I  am  in  a  good  position  to 
discuss  this  practice  and  the  results  which  govern  this  practice  be- 
cause throughout  my  37  years  as  a  floor  broker,  I  have  also  rou- 
tinely traded  for  my  own  account.  Over  the  years,  I  have  given  a 
lot  of  thought  to  dual  trading.  In  1975, 1  was  coauthor  of  a  study  on 
that  topic  which  formed  part  of  the  report  of  the  chairman  of  the 
advisory  committee  on  the  regulation  of  contract  markets  and  self- 
r^ulatory  associations  of  which  I  was  a  member.  As  you  remem- 
ber, when  the  CFTC  was  formed,  there  were  four  groups  formed  to 
aid  from  the  industry.  I  was  privileged  to  be  a  member  of  one  Of 
those  groups. 

In  that  report,  we  came  to  the  conclusion  that  dual  trading  was  a 
majoi  ingredient  in  the  liquidity  of  our  markets  and  that  its  elimi- 
nation  would  impair  that  liquidity  without  conferring  any  measure 
able  benefits  on  the  public.  We  recommended  tiiat  dual  tradm^  be 
preserved,  but  that  rules  be  adopted  which  clearly  prohibit  a 
broker  from  buying  or  selling  for  his  own  account  while  holding 
orders  for  others  at  the  market  price  at  the  eame  time.  We  also 
recommended  that  surveillance  systems  be  unproved,  so  that  the 
exchanges  in  conjunction  with  the  CFTC  could  ensure  that  abuses 
of  that  and  other  practices  were  detected  and  pimi^ied. 

I  believe  our  recommendations  were  valid  then  and  that  the  last 
14  years  have  vividly  demonstrated  their  validity.  In  the  interven- 
ing years,  our  markets  have  enjoyed  unprecedented  growth  in 
volume  and  liquidity,  making  them  the  envy  of  the  wond.  At  the 
same  time,  the  Chicago  Board  of  Trade  and  other  exchanges  have 
adopted  strfiightforward  rules  to  maike  the  misuse  of  dual  trading, 
that  is,  trading  ahead  of  the  customer  order,  a  trade  practice  vic4a- 
tion. 

And  moat  important  of  all,  over  the  last  10  years,  and  in  particu- 
lar the  last  5  years,  the  exchanges  have  taken  strides  unimaginable 
in  1975  to  create  and  implement  effective  surveUlance  systems  &»* 
detecting  all  trading  abuses,  including  trading  ahead.  In  particular, 
the  computerized  audit  trail  codeaigned  by  the  Chicago  Board  of 
Trade  and  the  Chicago  Mercantile  Exchange  has  demonstrated  a 
detection  and  deterrence  capability  offered  by  no  other  financial 
metrkets  in  the  world.  At  least  that  was  the  view  expressed  by 
Nicholas  Brady  as  head  of  the  Presidential  task  force  which  stud- 
ied the  1987  stock  market  crash  which  was  alluded  to  by  Mr.  Me- 
tamed  this  morning  in  his  testimony. 


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I  do  not  pretend  to  speak  for  the  entire  floor  broker  community, 
but  I  know  if  I  conducted  a  survey  of  the  many  manv  responflible 
floor  brokers  whom  I  work  with  each  day  or  whom  I  know  Eux>und 
Uie  various  exchanges  in  the  country,  they  would  want  to  stress  for 
you  the  following  points.  First,  they  would  like  to  tell  you  that  you 
would  take  away  a  nu^or  means  of  servicing  their  customers  if  you 
t^ce  away  the  dual  trading  privilege  from  the  broker,  as  in  the 
manner  that  it  was  just  outlmed  to  you.  Dual  trading  aUows  the 
floor  broker  to  go  after  the  best  fill  for  his  customer,  knowing  the 
broker  has  the  flexibility,  if  necessary,  to  trade  out  of  resultant 
losing  positions  through  lus  personal  account  whenever  the  oppor- 
tunity arises. 

Second,  they  would  tell  you  they  support  the  fidoption  of  the 
best,  most  comprehensive  surveillance  system  devisable  as  a  means 
of  protecting  themselves  as  well  as  their  customers.  That  is  an  im- 
portant point  tiut  a  good  surveillance  system  protects  the  broker, 
as  well  as  the  customer. 

The  message  I  would  leave  with  you  is  simple.  We  have  the  best 
most  liquid  markets  in  the  world.  I  am  not  an  economist,  but  I  be- 
lieve the  rational  review  of  the  economic  literature  available  on 
the  subject  will  lead  to  the  conclusion  that  dual  trading  has  con- 
tributed to  the  unrivaled  success  of  our  markets.  In  copying  every 
aspect  of  our  market  formula  in  an  effort  to  win  business  from  us, 
fore^  markets  have  also  copied  us  in  permitting  dual  trading. 
The  foreign  markets  do  not  have  our  surveillance  capability.  They 
do  not  have  the  know-how  and  they  do  not  have  the  commitment 
to  eliminate  trading  abuses  and  the  perception  that  abuses  exist. 
Let  us  use  our  know-how  and  our  commitment  to  keep  U.S.  mar< 
kets  in  their  preeminent  position.  With  your  help,  we  can  preserve 
our  liquidity,  and  elII  of  the  factors  that  contribute  to  it,  including 
dual  trading,  while  reinforcing  the  int^rity  for  which  we  must  be 
equally  well  known. 

As  a  little  adjunct,  I  would  like  to  say  that  I  think  that  I  have 
showed  you  that  for  more  than  20  years,  our  goals  have  been  the 
same.  I  do  not  speak  for  anyone  but  mys^,  but  like  the  exchanges, 
my  goal  has  been  to  try  to  be  of  help  in  this  instance,  and  I  hope 
tbAt  I  have  been  of  some  help  today. 

fThe  prepared  statement  of  Mr.  Kane  appears  at  the  conclusion 
of  the  hearing.] 

Mr.  EhfGLiSH.  Thank  you  very  much.  I  appreciate  that,  Mr.  Kane. 
One  thing  that  I  guess  puzzles  me  a  little  bit,  Mr.  Kane,  is  this  par- 
ticular l^islation  we  are  looking  at  has  a  provision  in  it  that  says, 
anyone — any  of  these  three  gentlemen — who  does  not  care  whether 
their  broker  is  involved  in  dual  trading  or  not,  all  they  have  to  do 
is  sign  a  paper  saying,  I  recognize  my  broker  is  involved  in  dual 
tradmg.  It  is  fine  with  me,  give  him  my  blessing.  Approve  him. 
That  is  it. 

We  have  had  testimony  today — I  mentioned  Dr.  Grossman,  but 
we  will  go  back  to  the  earlier  testimony — that  some  20  percent  of 
the  trades  may  have  dual  trading  involved.  So  we  are  talking  about 
any  contract,  any  particular  contract  that  we  are  talking  about, 
and  let  us  assume  that  we  go  with  the  20  percent.  Then  we  fit  into 
the  question  that  any  customer  who  so  wishes  or  does  not  care 
whether  his  broker  is  involved  in  dual  trading  signs  off  for  it. 


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We  have  also  heard  that  the  nuuority  of  the  busineae  on  any  con- 
tract is  going  to  be  firms,  grain  companies,  and  so  on  and  so  forth, 
and  they  have  their  own  people  looking  over  their  shoulder.  I  guess 
after  you  fit  all  of  that  together,  it  is  hard  for  me  to  understand, 
how  this  is  going  to  have  that  kind  of  m^or  impact  on  any  con- 
tract, I  do  not  care  what  it  is.  Because  if  in  fact  you  gentlemen  are 
representative  and  you  do  not  care  or  you  support  dual  trading,  ev- 
erybody signs  off.  'niough  there  is  no  impact,  is  there?  Is  that  not 
true,  Mr.  Kane? 

Mr.  Kane.  I  think  that  you  have  one  segment  of  an  industry 
here  that  would  sign  off  perhaps  on  this  situation,  but  I  think  Blr. 
Lebeck  brought  up  an  important  point  in  his  earlier  testimony.  Al- 
though the  commodity  head  of  a  particular  futures  commission 
merchant  may  be  perfectly  willing  to  sign  off  or  to  solicit  his  cus- 
tomers' opinions,  I  am  not  sure  that  their  legal  department — and  I 
am  not  an  attorney — would  allow  that  to  happen. 

Mr.  English.  Let  me  point  out  though,  the  model  that  we  are  fol- 
lowing comes  from  the  Chicago  Mercantile  Exchange.  That  is 
where  it  comes  from.  That  is  where  that  provision  comee  from. 
Their  lawyer  does  not  seem  to  have  a  problem  with  it.  He  does  not 
seem  to  have  any  difficulty  with  it.  The  thing  that  I  wonder  about, 
we  were  talking  earlier  about  with  Mr.  Lebeck,  the  Chicago  Board 
of  Trade  today  may  have  less  than  2  percent — I  am  probably  being 
too  generous,  maybe  even  less  than  1  percent,  maybe  even  less 
than  one-half  of  1  percent — of  their  trade  represented  by  gentle- 
men like  we  have  here,  whether  it  be  farmers  or  whatever,  a  veiy 
very  small  percentage. 

We  have  then  the  contracts,  the  trading  that  is  taking  place  on 
these  contracts  are  by  firms,  big  firms.  If  they  do  not  have  any 
problem  with  dual  trading,  fine  with  me.  ThCT  sign  off.  They  have 
their  own  people  there.  They  run  their  own  business.  So  I  do  not 
understand  where  all  these  people  are  going  to  be  driven  away 
from  this  metrket  because  we  have  the  provision  that  sayB  timt 
folks  that  do  not  want  their  particular  broker  involved  in  dual 
trading  have  a  right  to  say  so,  and — our  right  to  refuse  to  give  that 
approval. 

How  much  business  are  we  going  to  lose  because  of  that,  Mr. 
Kane?  How  much  business  would  you  lose?  How  many  of  your  cus- 
tomers that  you  have,  do  you  feel  would  not  sign  that  paper  fi^o* 
you? 

Mr.  Kane.  I  do  not  have  any  idea  how  many  would  or  would  not 
sign  because  I  have  a  business  that  is  both  commercial  and  retail 
business.  And  the  retail  business  would  be  in  jeopeirdy  because  of 
what  I  brought  up  before.  And  I  think  that  woidd  be  the  important 
aspect  personally  that  I  would  look  at  in  that  r^ard.  It  would  f(m» 
me  to  make  a  decision. 

Mr.  English.  What  kind  of  decision  are  you  going  to  have  to 
make? 

Mr.  Kane.  I  would  have  to  make  a  decision  whether  or  not  I 
would  remain  a  broker  or  whether  I  would  become  a  trader. 

Mr.  English.  Why? 

Mr.  Kane.  Because  if  50  percent  or  more  of  my  income  were  to 
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Mr.  EInolish.  If  you  have  all  of  these  customers  out  there  and  it 
seems  to  me,  everything  I  have  heard  of  you,  Mr.  Kane,  you  are  a 
very  reputable  person,  one  who  has  an  excellent  reputaUon.  I  am 
sure  that  over  uie  years  you  have  built  up  an  awful  lot  of  satisfied 
customers.  Do  you  think  that  just  simply  because,  hey,  folks,  cus- 
tomers, I  am  involved  in  dual  trading.  Most  of  them  already  know 
it,  do  they  not? 

Mr.  Kane.  Yes. 

Mr.  English.  And  if  they  know  that,  how  many  of  them  do  you 
think 

Mr.  Kane.  I  jumped  to  a  conclusion.  May  I  define  a  customer  in 
my  mind? 

Mr.  English.  Sure. 

Mr.  Kane.  A  customer  in  my  mind  has  a  twofold  aspect.  A  cus- 
tomer in  my  mind  may  be  a  futures  commission  merchant  and 
then  the  ultimate  customer  would  be  the  customer  of  the  fiituree 
commission  merchant.  The  relative  retail  customer  of  that  futures 
commission  merchant  would  not  know  necessari^  who  this  order  is 
going  to.  He  would  judge  it  on  the  basis  of  the  futures  commission 
merchant.  That  is  where  the  difference 

Mr.  E^NGLiSH.  It  is  liis  money.  Should  he  not  have  the  right  to 
make  that  decision? 

Mr.  Kane.  Oh,  yes.  He  has  that  right — right  now. 

Mr.  English.  How  does  he  have  that  right?  He  can  tell  ihai  com- 
mission merchant,  I  do  not  want  anybody  that  is  involved  in  the 
dual  trading  carrying  out  my  order,  and  how  does  he  fmd  out  for 
sure  that  that  is  done? 

Mr.  Kane.  I  do  not  know  how  he  finds  out. 

Mr.  English.  That  is  the  problem  we  are  into.  The  thing  that 
comes  down.  As  I  said,  here  we  are  talking  about  20  percent  of  the 
business.  And  then  we  are  talking  about  narrowing  that  on  down — 
the  Ifick  of  omiidence  that  I  sense  in  the  industry  about  getting 
customers  to  sign  that  paper  is  frankly  surprising.  I  felt  that  most 
brokers,  most  people  in  industry  would  be  very  confident  that  tiie 
customers  fire  satisfied,  the  customers  are  happy.  You  gentlemen 
here  seem  very  satisfied  with  the  arrangements  that  you  have  with 
whoever  your  brokers  are.  You  seem  to  me  to  be  the  kind  of  gentle- 
men that  would  sign  that  paper.  Would  not  you  three?  Any  one  of 
you  who  would  not  sign  it? 

Mr.  Dankes.  Yes,  f  would,  sir,  and  I  think  our  d^ree  of  satisfac* 
tion  has  come  over  years  of  education  and  experience  with  a  par- 
ticular broker,  and  our  confidence  is  built  up  probably  more  so  in 
the  futures  commission  merchant. 

Mr.  English.  So  you  do  not  know  who  your  broker  is,  do  you? 

Mr.  Dankeb.  I  do  not  know,  but  we  have  the  ability  to  watch  our 
trades  as  they  are  entered  and  see  how  they  are  filled. 

Mr.  English.  How  do  you  do  that? 

Mr.  Danker.  We  have  up  to  the  second  quotatiom  on  our  screen. 

Mr.  English.  But  you  do  not  know  whether  this  guy  that  is  out 
there — you  do  not  know  who  this  broker  is?  You  do  not  know  what 
he  is  doing? 

Mr.  Danker.  No. 

Mr.  English.  So  if  he  in  fact  traded  ahead  of  you  and  he  was  not 
picked  up  on  the  audit  trail,  you  would  never  know  it  would  you? 


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Mr.  Dankkb.  No,  sir.  But  I  would  know  what  kind  of  fill  I  got, 
where  the  market  was  at  when  I  placed  the  order. 

Mr.  English.  But  you  do  not  uiow  whether  you  were  cheated  or 
not? 

Mr.  Danker.  A  fraction  of  a  cent,  probably  not,  sir. 

Mr.  Bnoubh.  The  question  I  am  coming  down  to,  to  you  it  does 
not  matter?  You  are  willing  to  sign  off? 

Mr.  Danker.  Yes. 

Bfr.  Bnolish.  Do  you  think  the  overwhelming  nuyority  of  the 
people  that  are  in  your  business  would  feel  the  same  way? 

Mr.  Danker.  Yes,  I  believe  so. 

Mr.  English.  OK,  what  is  the  fear?  If  you  end  up  with  75  pei^ 
cent  of  the  people  in  the  business  that  are  willing  to  sign  that  dip, 
and  we  end  up  now  that  is  20  percent  of  the  business  that  is  in- 
volved in  dual  trading  fill  to^tner,  so  you  have  75  percent  of  20 
percent.  And  the  other  individuals,  that  does  not  mean  that  th^ 
are  leaving  the  market,  they  toe  simply  saying,  hey,  I  want  a  guy 
out  there  who  is  not  involved  in  duftl  trading.  I  mean  they  are 
going  to  be  in  there  trading.  Their  business  is  not  Roinf  away.  Now 
where  is  the  threat?  Can  you  tell  me  that,  Mr.  Danker? 

Mr.  Danker.  I  do  not  Know,  sir.  I  am  not  in  a  position  to  talk 
about  the  technicalities  of  the  futures  market  I  only  know  the  ex- 
perience irom  my  end. 

Mr.  English.  But  would  this  satisfy  your  concerns  then?  You  are 
able  to  have  your  trader— he  is  able  to  continue  to  do  busineaa  just 
like  he  is  today.  Does  that  not  take  care  of  vour  pn^lem? 

Mr.  Danker.  Yes,  sir.  I  think  you  would  see  an  instance  maybe 
where  the  people  that  did  not  sign  off  would  though  would  get— the 
better  traders  are  going  to  choose  to  trade  for  their  own  account. 

Mr.  English.  Well,  that  is  iine,  but  that  is  their  choice,  right? 

Mr.  Danker.  Yes. 

Mr.  English.  They  may  see  it  another  way.  They  may  decide, 
hey,  I  am  concerned.  I  do  not  know  who  this  guy  is  that  is  a  broker 
for  me.  I  do  not  want  some  guy  that  is  dealing  for  himself.  That  is 
their  decision,  right? 

Mr.  Danker.  Yes. 

Mr.  English.  Mr.  Fredrickson,  does  that  take  care  of  your  prob- 
lem? 

Mr.  Fredrickson.  Yes.  Of  course,  any  time  we  take  away  brokers 
or  whoever  it  might  be  in  the  marketplace,  we  do  reduce  competi- 
tion. 

Mr.  English.  How  do  we  take  away  a  broker? 

Mr.  Fredrickson.  In  other  words,  we  eliminate  the  people  that 
will  be  dual  trading. 

Mr.  ENGLISH.  I  do  not  understand  how  we  would  do  that.  If  we 
had  Mr.  Kane  here.  Mr.  Kane  has  been  in  the  businefls  fbr  some 
time.  He  has  a  lot  of  customers.  Mr.  Danker  has  people  that  he  has 
faith  in.  They  are  not  going  to  desert  these  people.  You  have  said 
yourself  you  are  going  to  sign  off.  In  the  case  of  Mr.  Danker,  he  has 
brokers  doing  his  business  that  he  does  not  even  know.  But  he  has 
confidence  in  the  firm  that  he  uses  to  have  the  right  people,  l^t 
is  fine;  that  is  great.  He  signs  off  on  that. 

Thj^  are  certainly  going  to  be  able  to  continue  to  do  dual  trad- 
ing. What  we  are  going  to  have  evidently,  if  you  gentlemen  are  any 


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kind  of  representatives,  is  a  very  small  percentage  out  here  that 
said,  until  we  get  a  better  83rBtem,  until  we  can  feel  confident  that 
we  are  going  to  be  able  to  deal  with  this  problem,  I  just  as  soon 
have  somebttly  who  is  not  involved  in  dual  trading.  And  there  is 
going  to  be  somebody  to  pick  up  that  business.  That  is  the  Ameri- 
can way,  is  it  not?  Where  there  is  a  need,  there  is  going  to  be  some- 
body out  there.  So  why  deny  them  their  chance. 

I  guess  what  I  am  coming  down  to  is  it  seems  to  me  that  we  have 
taken  care  of  your  need.  We  are  not  running  Mr.  Kane  out  of  busi- 
ness. Mr.  Kane  can  continue  to  do  dual  trade.  He  may  have  some 
people  who  do  not  wiint  him  to  dual  treide.  Maybe  he  has  people 
staged  up  because  of  his  good  reputation  that  just  love  to — you  do 
not  have  any  of  those,  you  take  fdl  comers,  do  you,  Mr.  Kane? 

Mr.  Kanb.  No,  I  do  not  take  all  comers,  but  I  will  be  glad  to  take 
any  business  that  you  might  have. 

Mr.  Enoush.  ok,  but  see  my  point  is  that  the  l^islation  does 
not  ban  dual  trading,  that  is  the  whole  point.  It  takes  care  of  those 
people  who  are  happy  with  their  brokers  and  do  not  care  if  he  is 
involved  in  dual  trading,  end  give  them  their  opportunity  to  do  so. 
It  takes  caxe  of  those  people  who  do,  who  are  concerned  about  it.  It 
gives  them  a  chance. 

It  probably  is  going  to  develop  a  new  market.  You  Eu*e  going  to 
have  some  folks  out  there,  say,  hey,  I  think  I  can  go  out  there  and 
pick  up  these  people  who  are  concerned,  azid  I  will  make  more 
money  doing  that  than  I  am  being  involved  in  dual  trading.  We 
have  an  aw&l  lot  of  traders  out  there  that  Eire  not  involved  in  dual 
trading;  is  that  not  right,  Mr.  Kane?  They  are  simply  traders. 

Mr.  Kane.  They  are  simply  traders,  certainly. 

Mr.  English.  So  they  may  pick  up  a  little  business.  We  are  not 
losing  anybody  on  this  thing.  And  eis  far  aa  the  liquidity  in  the 
market,  we  are  going  to  find  there  is  very  little  chance  because 
that  customer  stUl  has  the  need,  no  matter  whether  you  are  using 
a  broker  or  trader.  He  still  has  the  need  and  he  is  still  going  to  be 
involved. 

So  the  thing  we  have  come  down  to  is,  I  recognize  that  folks  do 
not  like  to  change.  You  know,  if  you  have  a  good  deal  and  it  is 
working  fine,  well  that  is  great.  What  we  are  saying,  find  I  think 
the  excSianges  Eigree  with  me,  is  that  we  are  pushing.  We  wemt  to 
see  a  little  higher  standard.  We  want  to  see  them  do  a  little  better. 
We  have  a  little  more  faith  in  them.  We  think  they  can  do  better. 
And  as  I  said,  we  are  using  a  little  bit  of  a  carrot  and  stick. 

Mr.  Weenis,  I  did  not  ask  you,  does  that  pretty  much  take  care  of 
your  needs  too? 

Mr.  Weems.  Yes,  sir.  It  would  take  care  of  most  of  the  farmers' 
needs.  I  see  nothing  wrong  with  it.  It  may  take  away  a  little  of  Mr. 
Kane's  business,  but  may&  he  will  get  some  more. 

Mr.  Enoush.  He  may  do  better.  The  thing  that  we  are  coming 
down  to,  that  is  what  we  are  going  to  try  to  address,  £md  we  do  not 
want  to  do  anything  that  is  going  to  be  harmful  to  the  market.  We 
built  an  awful  lot  of  safeguards  in  this  system.  Mr.  Kane. 

Mr.  Kans.  Mr.  Chairman,  may  I  address  two  things  that  I  think 
are  important  in  this  area? 

Mr.  English.  Sure. 


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Mr.  Kane.  One,  it  probably  would  have  an  impact  on  the  young 
men  or  jrouns  women  who  are  starting  in  the  busineae  ^m  the 
standpoint  of  being  brokers.  It  would  probably  have  impact  on 
those  people.  I  do  not  want  to  expound  on  it.  It  is  6  o'clock  and 
that — but  if  anybody  on  the  staff  would  like  to  talk  about  it,  I 
think  that  would  be  important.  Let  us  leave  it  at  that  one. 

Mr.  English.  We  would  like  to  visit  with  you  emd  take  that  into 
account.  We  sure  would. 

Mr.  Kane.  I  think  there  are  a  few  impediments. 

Bifr.  English.  Mr.  Coleman,  do  you  have  any  questions?  Bfr. 

JOQtZ. 

Mr.  JoNTZ.  Mr.  Chairman,  let  me  say  thanks  to  each  of  the  wit- 
nesses for  their  statemeat.  And  I  wonder,  Mr.  Chairman,  if  it 
would  be  out  of  line  if  I  took  advantage  of  the  opportunity  to  a^ 
Mr.  Fredrickson  for  his  observations  and  his  perspective  of  country 
elevator  about  the  recent  soybeans  futures  controvert  with  the 
Chicago  Board? 

Mr.  EInolish.  That  subject  has  come  up  toda^,  so  feel  ftee. 

Mr.  JoNTz.  Mr.  Fredrickson,  what  is  this  gomg  to  mean  for  farm 
income  and  what  effect  is  this  going  to  have  in  the  long  term  on 
bean  prices,  and  what  perspective  do  you  think  the  Congress  ought 
to  take  with  regard  to  this  matter? 

Mr.  Fredrickson.  Well,  I  might  say  that  as  we  have  all  heard 
today,  the  Chicago  Board  of  Trade  did  take  action.  The^  are  b^ng 
highly  criticized  by  some  people  in  the  marketplace  and  in  the 
public  for  the  action  they  did  ^ke.  However,  if  they  had  not  taken 
action  and  the  consequences  had  developed,  they  would  have  been 
severely  criticized  for  not  making  the  move  that  they  did.  Quite 
frankly,  I  do  not  feel  that  this  has  had  a  severe  imjMict  on  the  price 
of  soybeans  over  the  long  pull.  Temporarily,  yes.  On  the  days  that 
there  was  a  lai^e  liquidation  of  these  contracts,  the  July  contract, 
for  example,  toifiiy  beana  were  down  severely. 

However,  when  we  get  into  this  situation  the  exchange  or  the 
speculator  is  always  the  culprit.  However,  I  think  ^wut  1  year  ago 
when  we  had  the  drought  situation,  and  soybeems  futures  reached 
$10  a  bushel,  I  did  not  hear  any  criticism  of  the  exchange  or  the 
speculate.  I,  as  a  hedger,  had  problems  meeting  my  margin  calls 
those  days  because  of  the  grain  that  I  had  hedged. 

Mr.  JoNiz.  Do  any  other  members  of  this  panel  want  to  tackle 
that  question  while  you  are  here? 

Mr.  Wbems.  Mr.  Jontz,  I  do  not  want  you  to  take  this  too  lightly, 
but  I  think  the  general  rain  that  they  hiad  in  the  Midwest  over  the 
last  week  probw>l][  had  more  to  impact  the  price  of  ftiturea  soy- 
beans  than  the  action  that  the  Chicago  Board  of  Trade  took.  And  I 
come  from  a  place  where  we  are  up  to  here  in  rain  right  now. 

Mr.  Jontz.  Let  me  thank  you  again  for  your  testimony  to  the 
committee. 

Mr.  English.  Thank  you  veiy  much,  Mr.  Jontz.  I  appreciate  that, 
and  I  want  to  thank  you  gentlemen.  And  as  I  said,  if  you  got  any 
other  ideas,  suggestions  or  whatever — Mr.  Kane,  I  am  glad  that 
you  came  downTi  will  tell  you  it  is  a  great  help  to  us,  and  I  kmiw 
that  you  have  a  lot  of  your  colleagues  back  in  Chicago  that  are  ap- 
prehensive with  regard  to  this  le^lation,  but  just  tell  them  that 
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else,  and  we  want  to  try  to  get  this  to  the  point  that  what  we  are 
searehing  for  is  that  we  are  going  to  est^lish  a  standard.  It  is 
going  to  be  a  little  higher  than  we  are  right  now,  but  we  wEuit  to 
make  sure  it  is  reachable,  obtainable,  find  we  will  encourage  every- 
body to  move  in  that  direction,  and  we  want  to  make  this  whole 
system  workable. 

Mr.  Kane.  Mr.  Chairman,  as  I  told  you,  I  feel  that  we  have 
common  goals.  And  I  thfmk  you  for  the  opportunity  to  be  here 
today.  It  has  been  very  short  notice  on  my  part.  I  had  not  prepttred 
as  much  as  I  would  like,  emd  I  know  the  time  constraints  involved, 
but  I  thank  you  for  the  opportunity.  We  have  the  very  same  goals. 
I  think  the  surveillance  system  will  be  improved  because  it  is  im- 
measurably improved,  as  some  of  the  people  from  the  CFTC  who 
have  been  there  from  the  beginning  will  tell  you,  and  some  of  your 
own  staff  perhaps.  And  it  eunazes  me  because  I  have  not  been  in- 
volved intimately  with  these  things  over  the  years. 

But  I  thfuik  you  very  much  for  the  opportunity,  and  I  would  like 
to  take  this  opportunity  to  thank  a  Mr.  O'Conner  whom  I  have 
never  met  until  today  from  your  staff.  I  call  him  on  occaBions  to 
find  out  some  information  about  what  is  going  on  and  he  is  most 
helpful.  I  met  him  for  the  first  time  today. 

Mr.  English.  Do  not  say  too  much,  he  will  be  wanting  a  raise 
next.  Be  careful  with  that  phrase. 

Mr.  Kane.  Well,  he  would  not  be  unique  in  that  spot. 

Mr.  English.  That  is  true.  I  want  to  thank  you  very  much,  Mr. 
Kane,  and  if  you  get  any  other  ideas  or  any  of  your  colleagues  in 
Chicago  get  any  ide£is,  we  would  be  hapi^  to  hear  them.  Thank  you 
very  much. 

We  will  recess,  subject  to  the  call  of  the  Chair. 

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the  call  of  the  Chair.] 

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t  (paaif Icatlens .     Today,   tta*  HCA  and  tb*  Oileago  Maiaaatil*  Biahang* 
nua  wnklna  Co  achlan  algnldeant  tmpiovaBanta  In  clia  cattla  fntuna 


maiKl  yeu  (ec  aovlng  teniaEd  In  a  tlaaly  Banmr  alth  It 
EOduction  of  H.n.  28C9,  Ttw  Coanodity  ruturva  l^rova 
trong  blacory  of  acclvlty  on  CTTC  taauthociiation  and 


our  comBnci  today  vlll  addraaa  tba  bill  cUlas  ■•  Incioducad: 

cltl*  I  -  uxraxzcm  ea  a>mM  vawna  tMcncu 

fs«»i  T.-fcittwiy — KQj^  aupporta  alijiination  of  dual  trading,     currantlr,  bcokara^ 


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NU  is  ayifwtMtic  to  cUlM  thtt  dUiiMtiaB  s(  diul  tcadlsq  ewld  i«AtM 
n  tiiilwj  In  tarn  contiacc  wiBtha.     M  tnt*  tlM,   hsiim*c.   It  la  Mlt*««d 

Clca.     rioducac  csnildanoa  la  pacaKntnt  to  thali  eontlniMd  >»•  e(  tba 

•^■•"-II  "-~1T  "— ^M  n*  lr(i>"  «..~.i.n~..— »..>.ii>  eontlilanea  In  futur** 
urhaca  eou14  ba  IncrauM  by  diaclgaun  of  btokar  ■aaDClatlon  ■anCwrtliip.     NCft 


o(lt  ihailng  aiearnwinta.     Ulowlot 
a  but  profiiblting  It  by  indlTldoal 


svlng  tM  audit  trail  ttn  eutalte  papai  ulll  b*  nlatl' 

■aaad  audit  pcgcaduraa  to  ereaa-aatoh  iafeiaatlOB  oa  •  pit  bcskac'a  ca 


or  othBc  anarslng  tachnoleglaa  to  cacord  pit  bzokar  trauactlon*  In  tin 
of  tha  traditional  hand  cacoidad  pit  bioMc  caida. 

HCA  HuppOEtd  tha  concapt  of  aaparata  tljaa  braekata  Coc  aackat  opadlo^  ai^ 
clofllnga.     DpanlAcr  and  cloala^  of  tEading  aaaalona  oftan  hava  a  wlda  tradlBg 

ara  battai  tban  foe  outalda  oidaia.     Statiittoal  pEobabilltiaa  oC  aqual 

flllad  on  tba  epan  and  closa. 


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Srlog  of  pO*ltleD* 


■M  by  lagliund 

•  peilttoos  in  la  i 


paitlclpatlon  by  CTK 


,  Jujdlcing  prooKtuiva  nay  ba  K*quic»d  ti 


i_ud_>BiaiaMMt~HC»  e 


aatad  dlraetly  iilch  CTTC 


■  publicly  uuiounotd.     CoDtiqutd  ecMparktlea  ukd 
tlwT  Innitlgstlng  ■gwiclv*  irlll  Incruaa  p(d>lla 


:  *t'^**i>  o"  IoumI  lisisoo 


""flltllj  ainnij— Hr* 


-rvgulatlon  ^ 
iBlghc  by  th*  CTTC.     Strict  adb 


Wilo  Trading  Fzutica* 

lora  aaanlngful  tban  incraaaiog  tba  ni 


nOB-*loor  1 


a  goTamlng  boarda  a 


laclpllniEy  ccua 


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okai*  ■»  i^itlMt*  nil 


liif mai\l  -'  '•'  — '   1lnn«i  rmilTl—     "-  MooaipC  et  Mlf  ngalsClen  alUi  atro^ 

cnc  eni(t«lit  1(  lupponad  by  acft.     Vlcliaut  nrlet  —farmint  af  paultlM, 
TcgulattoB  lack*  tha  taath  to  aBaun  csavHanea  vltb  aalt-li^aaad  culaa. 

■C*  aivpsR*  CM  Mloptlao  s(  ttadlng  guldallnaa  fsE  rula  tlslaEloDa  aa 

2,     MooBd  sttanaa  -  ii^LaleB. 

1.     rlrac  sfCanaa  -  Thirty  ilaya  anapanataa  of  all  Bi^iarBhip  pilvllavaa; 


3.     Tilted  otfanaa  -  ona  ]r«ai 


a  cs^ilctlDg  any  naJoE  nils  Tiolacioo  o 


iBtagrltT  of  aalf-raffBlaticA  la  dliwitly 


d  ta  athleal  atandaids.     tnaoaiira  achica  tnlnlog  ■ 


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■CM  e(  Its  funds  CD  ■ccaapllsh  tb*  •ipwxlsd  tasks  ■■  oui 
quaca  nuabars  of  highly  Cralnad,  qualltlad,  axparlaDesd  p> 
oconplialMMit  of  any  Bilssion.  MC*  supporta  CTTC  raquasts 
1  and  funding,  irtilch  tiava  baan  eutstrlppsd  by  gnxtb  In  tha  tutuiai  lodustcy 
acant  yHrs.  On  on*  apseiflc  Issua,  pailodlc  niltlcstlon  at  pesltleni  Iwld 
n  that  l»o[«a**d 


alsctronlc  syitaoa  In  plica  of  *opsn  oucsEy*  ottaTi  unllmltad 
cordltaaplns  naiJiet  sunslLlsnca,   aaas  of  uaa,   and  opan*  oppoxtunlcla* 
aflDVHnc  of  i:;o^>utarliad  Trada  Mconst ruction.     HCX  sctongly 
xchanosB  to  ii^laavnt  alactronia  trading  ayscans  during  noiaal 
an  alcamatlT*  to  "opsn  outcry"  as  tbss*  tschnologiaa  baccoa  cafinad 


naElcac  participant*.     Mtumlng  narkat  iat*9rity,   in  light  at  tha  racant 
innstlgstlon,   and  aatabllshlng  CTTC  as  Um  (utuns  lagulatory  agaacy  ara  sought 
aToryena. 

Hr.  Chainaan,  NC*  is  villing  to  assist  yau  as  this  pEocas*  aOTaa  fonard. 
■ill  aagarly  •atartala  vaascians. 


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LEO  HBLAMED 

F  TBS   KXECmiVI 
AHD  SPECIAL  COUNSEL  TO  THE  BOABD 


BEFORE  TBE 

U.S.    HOUSE   or  REFRE5EXTATXTES 

CGMIITTKS  OH  JUaaCDLHUSB,    mmilTIOH  JUn>  FCnXSTBX 

SOBCOHNITTEE   OK   C0M8SRVATI0N,    CSZDIT  UD  KOaU,  mVELOR 

JOLT   20,     1989 


Hr.  Cbalzaan,  munbcTS  of  tb*  i 
Lao  Halaaad.  I  aa  Chalrnan  of  tho  EiMcnitivs  Ctnnitt**  and 
Spacial  Coun>«l  to  tb«  Bo&rd  of  Gov*mors  of  tlia  Oilcago 
Harcantil*  Exchang«  (CHE) .  Acconpanylng  ■•  is  Wllliaa  J. 
Brodsky,  ovir  Prasidvnt  and  Chlaf  Exacutiv*  Officar.  W* 
valCOMe  this  oppoz-tunlCy  to  appaar  batora  you  today  and  to 
offar  our  cooaanta  on  tha  Coasodlty  Putnraa  D^iravaaant  Act 
of  1989  {tha  "Bill") ■ 

Ha  Hava  davotad  subatantial  attantlon  to  tlia  propoaad 
Bill  and  hava  praparad  a  datallad  analyais,  lAlch  la  appandad 
to  our  taatlmony.  That  Bill  claarly  daKonstratea  that  this 
Conmittea  has  worked  dlligantly  and  vary  quickly  to  luidar— 
atand  tha  major  iaauaa  confronting  tha  futuras  industry.  In 
many  raspacts,  tha  aponsors  hava  propoaad  lagislativa  raaolu- 
tions  of  thoaa  issuas  which  ara  substantlBlly  similar  to  tha 
rulas  that  hava  baan  adopted  or  are  in  tha  procaas  of  baing 
adopted  by  the  industry. 

Evan  whara  tha  industry  approach  to  tha  issuaa  diffara 
from  tha  solution  that  would  be  imposed  by  tha  Bill,  tha  CKE 
and  tha  Bill's  sponsors  share  tha  aams  basic  goals:  Na  both 
want  to  Insure  tha  Integrity  of  our  markets  and  bolster 
public  confidence  in  that  integrity.  .  However,  tha  C3tE  and 
the  other  exchanges  are  beholden  to  yet  another  principle; 
those  basic  goals  must  be  pursued  in  light  of  tha  need  to 
maintain  efficient  and  competitive  markets. 


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Th*  U.S.  futiuras  industry  is  not  immun*  from  ttim 
chall«nga  of  «ither  donwstlc  or  foreign  competition.  If  U.S. 
futures  markets  c*as«  to  efficiently  perform  their  risk 
transference  function,  both  domestic  over-the-counter  oarkats 
and  off-shore  futures  markets  will  immediately  fill  the  void. 
Neither  of  those  competitors  is  subject  to  comparable  regu- 
lation. 

The  challenge  now  is  to  resolve  any  concerns  about  the 
industry's  ability  to  detect  and  prosecute  customer  abuse 
without,  in  the  process.  Impairing  the  Industry.  The  media 
reports  of  undercover  investigations  in  Oiicago  and  New  York 
impose  tremendous  pressures  on  all  of  us  to  take  soma 
dramatic  action.  He  loiow  that  the  industry  is  prepared  to 
act  and  that  our  response  will  be  both  timely  and  effective. 

He  differ  with  the  approach  of  the  proposed  Bill, 
however,  in  that  we  do  not  find  the  need  for  Congress  to 
modify  its  well-proved  policy  at  requiring  affective  self- 
regulation  subject  to  oversight  by  the  Commodity  Futures 
Trading  Commission  (CFTC) .  Moreover,  a  policy  that  shifts  to 
dependency  en  the  lagialative  process  is  unlikely  to  be 
effective  when  it  attempts  to  address  the  details  of  every 

The  Bill's  sponsors  obviously  considered  this  problem 
and  chose  to  deal  with  it  by  giving  the  CPTC  power  to  over- 
turn the  provisions  of  the  Bill  if  in  practice  they  prove 
destructive.  This  "escape  clause"  approach  will  have  diffi- 
culty in  application.  First,  that  remedy  does  not  operate 
until  after  the  damage  has  occurred:  the  industry  may  never 
recover.  A  market  lost  will  not  be  regained.  Second,  it  is 
not  practical  to  expect  prompt  curative  action  from  a  federal 
agency  subject  both'  to  the  usual  bureaucratic  constraints  and 
by  a  requirement  that  it  certify  to  Congress  that  no  harm 
will  ever  occur  because  of  its  negation  of  a  legislated 
prohibition.   Inaction  is  the  more  likely  result. 

The  current  situation  is  reminiscent  of  an  incident  that 
occurred  during  the  early  days  at  the  audit  trail  debate. 
One  prominent  regulator  came  to  observe  the  trading  pits  so 
that  ha  could  suggest  improvements  to  our  audit  trail .  He 
watched  for  several  hours,  and  agreed  that  the  propensity  for 
heavy  order  flow  during  periods  of  highest  volatility  made  it 
impossible  for  the  broker  to  accurately  time  record  every 
trade  while  he  executed  the  orders  in  a  manner  which  served 
the  best  interests  of  his  customer.  The  regulator  had  a 
categorical  solution,   "slow  dowi  the  trading."  he  ordered. 

He  was  correct.  If  we  had  imposed  a  limit  on  the  speed 
at  which  we  allowed  prices  to  move  and  the  number  of  execu- 
tions that  could  be  done  each  period,  we  could  have  achieved 


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a  p«rf»ct:  audit  trail  and  aliainat«d  tb*  pOMibillty  of  aoat 
trading  abuaaa.  Of  couraa,  in  aucb  a  casa  parfcction  would 
b«  achiavad  at  th«  coat  oC  daatructlon  oC  tha  aarkat  and  Its 
unlvaraally  acknewladgad  banaCita.  That  kind  of  parf action 
1«  aynbollc  of  tha  aarkata  In  Ruasla. 

Tba  D.S.  futuraa  industry  haa  bad  an  outstanding  racord 
at  growth,  innovation  and  aarvica  to  its  custoaars.  niat 
history  was  aada  possibla  l»acausa  tha  advlca  of  that  regu- 
lator waa  rajactad  in  favor  of  Congrass ' a  datarvlnatlon  to 
aat  goals  and  standards  of  parforBanca  rathar  than  attavpt  to 
subst  ituta  Its  bus  inass  j  udgaxant  for  that  of  aiqtariancad 
nanagara  and  axparts  on  tha  intrloacias  of  tha  futuraa 
Barkat.  Tha  consaquanca  of  that  long-standing  laglalativa 
dacialon  is  a  auccassful  and  usaful  Industry  that  la  cantarad 
in  tha  Dnitsd  Statas .  Thara  is  no  coaparabla  f avorabla 
raoord  for  cantrallzad  govanoMntal  aicro-plannlng  for 
buainass.  nia  Bastsm  Bloc  is  atark  tastivony  to  tha 
bankruptcy  of  that  abroach. 

Tha  history  of  this  industry  provldas  a  claar  racord  of 
raaponslbla  Intarplay  batwaan  tha  Congrass,  tha  CTTC  and  tba 
axchangaa .  Hhan  tba  axchangas  hava  baan  alow  to  achlava 
approprlata  goals  and  atandarda ,  tha  Congrass  and  tba  CTTC 
hava  appliad  tba  nacasaary  praaaura.  Tba  rasult  of  that 
prasBura,  in  avary  casa,  has  baan  to  catalysa  tha  industry  to 
act  and  to  craata  ■yataaa  that  achlava  tha  goals  without 
angaglng  aithar  Congrass  or  tha  CPTC  in  tha  datailad  aanaga- 
aant  of  a  highly  tacbnical  and  rapidly  changing  buainaaa. 

Tlaa  and  tiaa  again,  aalf -regulation  has  provad  tha  bast 
satbod  to  raacb  tba  goals  of  sarkat  afficiancy  and  intagrlty. 
7or  inatanca ,  in  raaponaa  to  tba  CPTC ■ a  raqulra*ant  that 
axchangas  tiaa  transactiona  to  tha  naarast  minuta,  tha  CXE 
callad  on  tba  conaidarabla  axparlanea  and  avpartiaa  that  its 
■snbars  had  accunulatad  in  yaars  of  actual  trading.  Dia  aa 
invastad  substantial  subb  in  avaluating  tachnologias  and  tha 
altamativa  aanual  racordatlon  tachniquas .  Tha  on  took 
account  of  its  spacial  naads,  aassivs  businass  flowa,  and  th* 
actual  configuration  of  Its  trading  pits. 

Tha  OtB  undar  stood  that  a  solution  basad  solaly  on 
rsqulring  brokars  and  tradars  to  nanually  racord  transaction 
tlnas  would  b«  inadaquata  and  would  potentially  cost  futuraa 
market  cuatoaara  such  mora  in  terma  of  greatly  lessened 
market  afficiancy  than  any  benefit  they  would  likely  derive. 
Inataad,  tha  CHE,  in  conjunction  with  tha  Chicago  Board  of 
Trade,  developed  a  Computariaed  Trade  Reconstruction  (Cnt) 
ayaten,  of  which  tha  two  primary  benefits  are  minisal  Barkat 
disruption  and  prinary  reliance  on  information  subiiltted  froa 
sources  other  than  tha  objacta  of  survalllanca. 


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Through  laprovomants  In  the  CTR  systen,  CHE's  suzveill- 
snCB  ays'twn  has  continuously  evolved  to  detect  a  wide  ranc|» . 
of  trade  practice  abuses  and  to  Impute  transaction  tiaes  at  a 
verifiable  accuracy  rate  of  85%  (as  measured  by  the  CFTC  in 
our  last  review) .  OfE  Compliance  Department  staff  continu- 
ally facilitate  the  evolution  of  this  system  to  keep  pace 
with  new  trading  stratsgiss  as  they  develop. 

It  would  be  extremely  difficult,  or  perhaps  impossible, 
for  the  Congress  or  the  CFTC  to  ma)ce  decisions  at  this 
detailed  level.  He  expect  that  Implementation  of  furtHer 
•nhancenents  euggested  by  the  Special  Committee  to  Review 
Trading  Practices  will  increase  the  accuracy  rate  to  veil 
over  90t.  I  will  outline  these  enhancements  later  in  my 
testimony . 

Another  recent  instance  in  which  the  CHE  Independently 
initiated  raforas  in  fulfillment  of  its  self -regulatory  role 
occurred  with  regard  to  the  OfE's  then-most  popular  market, 
the  SfiP  500  Stock  Index  futures  contract.  As  a  result  of 
this  process,  the  entire  transaction  system  for  the  Stp  SOO 
futures  contract  was  examined  and  revised.  In  what  aaounted 
to  a  dramatic  break  with  status  quo,  dual  trading  was  effec- 
tively banned  from  the  CKE  equity  futures  contract  by  the 
adoption  of  the  so-callad  "Top  Step"  rule  which  affected 
approximately  90%  of  public  transections  in  that  marScet. 

Also  in  1987,  the  CHE  took  a  series  of  strong  actions  to 
enhance  the  effectiveness  of  its  rule  enforcement  program. 
It  hired,  trained  and  placed  Compliance  Department  staff  in 
the  trading  pits  on  a  full-time  basis.  The  jobs  of  these 
investigators  includes  making  obeervatlons  that  might 
discover  improper  conduct  as  well  as  following  up  on  lead* 
generated  by  the  computerized  portion  of  the  surveillance 

He  enacted  stringent  rules  requiring  registration  of 
broker  associations  and  imposed  limitations  on  their  ability 
to  trade  between  their  members.  He  also  created  several 
programs  to  monitor  compliance  with  these  new  rules  and 
empowered  a  committee  to  enforce  then. 

At  the  same  time,  the  CHE  greatly  expanded  the  power  of 
its  Compliance  Department.  All  members  are  required  to 
submit  to  a  tape  recorded  interview  upon  request.  Members 
are  required  to  produce  requested  books  and  records  within 
thirty  days  or  face  charges  of  a  major  rule  violation.  A 
panel  of  experts  was  created  to  serve  as  consultants  to 
Compliance  Department  staff  in  respect  to  esoteric  or  newly 
developed  trading  practices  and  schemes. 


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As  anotb«r  part  of  th«B«  r*forms,  w*  «nact«d  s  mach 
bar char  penalty  structura  and  adoptad  a  strict  anforcaaant 
policy.  Tha  poaltiva  rsaulta  of  thaaa  actions  vara  avidanead 
at  thia  Subcomittaa '  a  last  briaf Inq  aaaalon  on  Juna  28 , 
1989,  whan  an  InvaatigaCor  for  thia  Subcomnittaa  taatiCiad 
that  tha  (XS  laviad  total  finsa  of  ovar  $2.5  million,  auapan- 
dad  Maabarahip  privilagas  a  total  of  18 , 502  buainasa  days, 
and  axpallad  10  Exchange  mambara  in  1987  and  1988. 

Ha  ballava  that  tha  abova  actions,  which  wara  takan 
Indapandantly  of  any  ragulaCory  raquirenant,  ara  racant  and 
atrong  tastamanta  to  tha  affactivanaaa  of  our  aalf-racfulatery 
aystaa,  aa  wall  as  tha  wisdon  of  delagating  tha  discrafcion 
taspacting  tha  nathods  to  ba  us  ad  to  meat  rula  anforcaaant 
goals  to  tha  exchanges  thenaalvea. 

Diacloaura  that  tha  FBI  was  conducting  an  invaatigation 
of  futuras  trader*  activities  on  the  Chicago  and  New  York 
exchanges  does  not  altar  any  of  tha  foregoing.  While  tbis 
investigation  may  result  in  legal  action  against  sons  of  our 
■SBbara,  it  will  not  negate  tha  fact  that  tha  CKE  survaill- 
ance  systas  is  affective  and  has  an  outstanding  record,  nor 
will  it  cast  a  doubt  on  the  value  and  efCactiveness  of  ths 
self -regulatory  process.  Indeed,  no  surveillance  system  is 
fool-proof,  nor  is  any  industry  coupletaly  free  fros  its 
share  of  wrongdoers.  Neverthslass ,  the  vast  sajority  of  CKE 
nevbers  are  law-abiding  and  its  ayatea  of  aurvaillanca  second 

The  CKE  continued  its  eicesplary  self -regulatory  role  In 
response  to  the  FBI  investigation.  within  a  week  after 
disclosure  of  the  investigation  in  January,  1989,  we 
desonstrated  our  willingness  Co  conduct  a  thorough  self- 
axasination  of  all  trading  practices.  Toward  this  end,  a 
Special  Conmlttee  to  Review  Trading  Practices  was  formd. 
The  Special  Comnittee  was  cosprised  of  five  public  and 
industry  participants  as  well  as  four  Exchange  officiala. 
This  Comilttee  held  lengthy  hearings  to  receive  testimony 
froB  scores  of  witnesses  froB  all  strata  of  tha  Industry.  In 
addition,  scholarly  works  on  narket  eCflclenCy  were 
consulted.  This  Congressional  Subcoimittee  was  Informed  of 
the  recommendations  announced  by  tha  Special  Committee. 

Aa  this  Subcommittee  also  knows ,  recently  these  racom- 
sendations  were  reviewed  by  a  series  of  six  internal  CHE 
committees  comprised  of  a  wide  spectrum  of  CUE  members.  Tha 
six  internal  committees  —  Dual  Trading,  Broker  Associatlona 
and  Verbal  Orders,  Trading  Surveillance,  Discipllnai:; 
Practices,  CTR  Enhancements,  and  Admission  Requirements — 
have  presented  their  recommendations  to  tha  CHE  Board  of 
Governors  which  is  now  in  the  process  of  examining  the 
recommendations . 


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As  a  ramult  of  this  process,  tile  wide-ranging  and 
coBprehensive  changes  reconmended  by  the  Spsclal  Cammlttee 
have,  in  most  instances,  been  accepted.  In  Boms  cases,  the 
tXB  Internal  aeuber  comaittee  lessened  the  recommendations, 
but  in  other  Instances,  recommended  even  further  aeasures  or 
equivalent  or  better  altemativee  to  govern  the  area  identi- 
fied as  a  possible  source  of  abuse  by  the  Special  Committe«. 
The  Board  will  now  have  an  opportunity  to  review  the  package 
of  reconendations .  No  doubt  those  roc omaendat ions  between 
the  Special  Ccmnittee  and  the  internal  committee  that  are  the 
same  or  similar  will  be  endorsed.  In  those  cases  where  the 
Board  considers  the  recommendations  of  the  Special  Comaittee 
were  lessened,  the  rationale  at  the  internal  committee  will 
be  carefully  scrutinized  in  order  to  determine  whether  such 
lesser  recommendations  should  be  accepted.  After  Board 
consideration,  those  trading  practice  modifications  which 
will  have  a  substantial  impact  will  be  offered  to  the 
membership  for  ratification. 

The  following  discussion  of  the  issues  raised  by  this 
Congressional  Subcommittee  incorporetes  the  recmnendations 
of  the  six  Internal  CHE  review  committees  based  on  the  recom- 
mendations of  the  Special  Comaittee.  nieir  contribution  In 
terms  of  insight  and  institutional  knowledge  is  Invaluable 
and  afflras  the  value  of  self -regulation. 


The  ban  on  dual  trading  is  the  provision  of  the  Bill 
most  likely  to  draw  public  attention  and  delaate.  The 
prohibition  springs  froa  the  conviction  that  the  public's 
perception  of  dual  trading  in  futures  markets  is  strongly 
negative  and  the  understanding  that  dual  traders  can  prefer 
their  own  interests  to  the  interests  of  their  customers  in 
clear  violation  of  their  duty.  We  have  not  found  widespread 
concern  about  dual  trading  among  the  aost  substantial  users 
of  our  markets.  And,  while  we  agree  that  dual  traders  are  in 
a  position  to  abuse  their  trust,  the  evidence  so  far 
accumulated  does  not  suggest  that  dual  trading  is  the 
principal  culprit. 

In  our  opinion,  it  is  a  serious  mlstaka  to  require 
across-the-board  restrictions  on  dual  trading  in  all  markets 
which  have  reached  a  daily  average  volume  of  7,000  contracts 
as  provided  by  the  Futures  and  Options  Regulatory  improve- 
ments Act  of  1989.  (Although  the  Bill  uses  the  phrase 
"contract  market"  to  compute  the  7,000  contract  threshold,  we 
assume  the  Subcommittee  really  intended  to  apply  the 
threshold  to  any  contract  month  instead  of  all  contract 
months  combined.  It  is  clear  that  no  purpose  consistent  with 
the  goal  of  the  legislation  would  bs  served  by  rsfusing  to 


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racognlza  th*  raallty  that  •ach  contract  Bontt)  i*  a  aaparat* 
market.  It  1>  coaaian  for  tha  voluaa  lavals  b*tw*an  ■oon-tO'- 
•xplra  BonthB  and  back  nontha  to  vary  widaly.)  A  prohibition 
bas*d  on  an  arbitrary  avsraga  daily  laval  oC  trada  baara  no 
ralationahip  to  tba  purpoaa  sought  to  ba  accaaplisbad. 
Horaovar  a  slngla  number  cannot  raaliatlcally  be  applied 
aorosa  the  board  where  marlcets  and  market  conditions  are  so 
varied. 

The  recooaendations  by  the  Special  Committee  to  R«v1«h 
Trading  Practicas  to  prohibit  dual  trading  in  mature,  liquid 
contract  month*  reflected  a  compromlae  between  the  poeltiva 
contribution  of  dual  trading  and  its  negative  aspects  and 
psrcaptlons.  In  its  rationale,  the  Special  Committee 
recognized  that  dual  trading  la  not  inherently  evil  and 
"pervades  financial  markata,  including  cash  markets,  and  the 
firms  that  deal  for  customers  on  those  markets."  It  also 
recognized  "that  the  practice  of  dual  trading  is  a  critical 
element  insuring  futures  market  liquidity." 

When  the  internal  CHE  Dual  Trading  Committee  ravi«w«d 
the  foregoing  recommendation,  it  concluded  that  the  Special 
Committee ' s  solution  with  respect  to  dual  trading  could  bm 
improved.  If  a  methodology  could  be  found  that  would 
sufficiently  guard  against  those  who  would  abuse  dual  trying 
while  retaining  the  positive  contribution  of  dual  trading  to 
liquidity,  the  CHE  markets  would  be  better  served.  Purtbsr- 
mora,  the  internal  Dual  Trading  Committee  datanined  that  a 
res[>onsible  and  effective  industry  standard  respecting  the 
conditions  under  which  dual  trading  would  be  permitted  would 
better  serve  the  long-run  intereata  of  the  industry.  Accor- 
dingly, the  internal  Committee  on  Dual  Trading  i  ei  iiiiimsiiiTsil 
the  adoption  of  the  following  proposal  subject  to  its  accep- 
tance by  the  CME  Board  of  Governors,  Congress  and  the  CFTC. 
(In  the  event  its  proposal  is  found  unacceptable.  It 
recommended  that  the  CHE  resume  consideration  oC  ths  Spaclml 
Committee's  recommendation.) 

Dual  trading  will  be  allowed  in  any  contract  month  in 
which  the  CFTC  determines  that  the  cnt  system  prbducss  an 
audit  trial  of  transactions  that  is  verifiably  accurate  to 
the  nearest  minuta  at  a  90%  rata.  If  a  contract  month  fails 
to  meet  that  standard,  then  dual  trading  shall  be  prohibited 
with  exceptions  as  proposed  by  the  Spscial  Committee,  to  witi 
(1)  brokers  who  hava  been  given  specific  written  authori- 
zation from  every  public  customer  for  whom  the  broker  fills 
orders;  (2)  brokers  who  are  filling  orders  for  other  members 
of  the  Exchange;  and  (3)  brokers  who  predominantly  fill 
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and  to  the  seie-ragulatory  capabiliti««  oE  th«  Exchange  that 
will  b*  inplementad  aa  a  conaequanca  of  this  rafora  procesa. 
Staff  waa  satisfied  that  it  could  adequately  enforce  all 
rules  respecting  dual  trading  violations  in  any  contract 
Bonth  vhera  the  90t  accuracy  level  is  mat.  Staff  also  felt 
that  tha  reference  to  the  cfTC  to  authenticate  conpliance 
with  the  90%  level  assured  the  substance  of  the  program. 

It  is  important  to  note  that  on  July  11,  19B9,  the  dual 
trading  proposal  of  the  CHE's  internal  conaittee  was 
presented  for  review  to  the  special  Committee  to  Review 
Trading  Practices.  The  Special  Comaittee  accepted  the 
internal  comnittee ' s  recommendations  as  a  fully  adequate 
response  to  the  pros  and  cons  of  dual  trading.  In  its 
deliberations,  the  Special  Comnittee  took  note  that  the 
balance  between  the  contribution  of  dual  trading  to  liquidity 
and  the  perceived  dangers  to  customers  is  axtrassly  delicate. 
Accordingly,  the  Special  committee  unanimously  agreed  that 
the  CHE ' s  internal  comaittae ■ s  proposal  is  fully  equivalent 
to  its  own  original  recomnendation. 


Tha  goal  to  reconstruct  trading  with  a  fully-verifiable 
audit  trail  which  accurately  reflects  the  sequence  and  time 
of  trades  so  that  all  trading  abuses  are  detectable  is 
aanmendabla,  but  unrealistic.  The  timetable  which  has  been  - 
set  to  Beet  the  requirements  of  1-minute,  30-second  and,  in 
five  years,  real-time  trade  recordation  ignores  the  physical 
realities  of  open  outcry  trading.  There  are  no  indications 
that  technology  will  develop  at  a  pace  sufficient  to  make 
meating  these  requirements  possible  in  an  open  outcry  market. 

The  important  issue  here  is  not  whether  you  can  achieve 
an  abstractly  perfect  audit  trail,  but  whether  we  can  perfect 
a  surveillance  and  punishment  system  that  ia  highly  effective 
in  detecting  and  deterring  trading  abuses  on  the  exchange 
floor.  Surely  you  are  all  aware  that  no  amount  of  money, 
effort  or  good  faith  can  deter  or  discover  and  punish  each 
and  every  rule  violation. 

We  have  not  absolutely  prevented  our  members  and 
clearing  members  from  violating  our  rules,  CFTC  Regulations 
or  the  law.  During  1987  and  1988  the  OIK  opened  260  trade 
practice  investigations  and  secured  convictions  oC  188 
individuals.  A  large  portion  of  these  investigations  and 
prosecutions  were  a  direct  result  of  information  provided  by 
our  internal  computerized  surveillance  system  and  floor 
monitors  (23%)  and  by  information  provided  by  member  and  non- 
member  informants  (77%)  .  The  fines  imposed  by  the  CME  in 
respect  of  such  trade  practice  prosecutions  since  January  I, 

1987,    total    33,479,925. 


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H«  Butelt  that  these  rmsults  ar«  a  cImu:  Indication  of 
tb«  CME '  ■  strict  ruia  anf orcaawnt  pol  icy .  Thay  ara  tha 
raault  o£  a  tough  atanca  against  violators,  ona  that 
coaparas  favorably  with  any  othar  Cuturas  axchanga  in  tha 
nation.  Hor  can  It  ba  arguad  that  thasa  rasults  sisply  i^ly 
that  thara  ara  nora  violators  at  our  Exchange  than  at  other 
exchanges.  Such  a  cynical  view  Has  no  basis  in  fact  and  runs 
contrary  to  logic  which  dictates  that  trade  practices  and 
ethics  of  sesbers  on  all  exchanges  tand  to  be  siailar. 

Hhila  these  raw  statistics  respecting  investigations  and 
convictions  ara  Ij^rassive  tastiaony  to  tha  past  efforts  of 
the  CHE  and  its  CoBplianca  Dapartaant,  thay  only  tall  but 
half  of  tha  story.  A  true  assaasBant  of  a  survelllanca 
aystatt  requires  that  violations  ba  graded  according  to  tbair 
potential  for  han  to  custoaers,  the  sarlcat,  and  other 
■aabers.  nie  first  priority  of  the  CHE  and  its  survelllanca 
systs*  has  baan  to  protect  tha  public  cuataaers  of  its 
Markets.  Our  aost  intense  efforts  and  tha  bulk  at  our 
resources  have  been  devoted  to  the  protection  of  public 


Ha  believe  that  our  current  systeas  have  bean  highly 
affective  in  deterring,  dataoting  and  punishing  rule  viola- 
tions that  injure  public  custoaers  of  our  markets.  Ha  are 
awara,  however,  that  thara  hava  baan  a  nuaber  of  technical 
violations  that  hava  not  injured  custoaars  that  have  gone 
undetected  and  unpunished,  in  particular,  everyone  connected 
with  auction  aarkets  is  aware  that  there  14  a  certain  aaount 
of  trading  that  continues  after  tha  final  ball .  Tha  news- 
papers hava  had  a  field  day  with  allegations  about  tha 
horrors  of  "curb"  trading.  It  is  a  technical  violation  and 
wa  do  devota  effort  to  preventing  it,  but  it  is  not  at  tha 
top  of  our  list  of  enforcement  priorities. 

The  open  outcry  systaa  baa  In  the  past  and  continues  to 
aeet  tha  aandata  of  the  Coaaodity  Exchange  Act  to  contract 
markets  to  prewide  op«n  and  coapetltlva  aarkets.  It  deaon- 
strates  its  efficiency  every  day.  The  unique  chemiatry  of 
open  outcry  has  operated  to  aake  our  aarkets  soae  of  tha  aost 
liquid  in  tha  world.  Other  countries  hava  atteapted  to 
aaulata  this  systea  because  of  this  vary  quality.  Our 
custoaers  have  denonstrated  thair  overwhelming  confidanca  in 
and  support  of  our  open  outcry  systaa  by  their  trading 
decisions .  Voluae  this  year  at  the  CHE  has  increased  by 
alaost  40%  over  last  year. 

Tha  alternative  which  we  believe  was  intended  to  ba 
furthered  by  this  proposal  is  electronic  trading.  While  wa 
are  in  the  forefront  of  developing  an  after-hour  electronic 
system,  we  are  convinced  that  electronic  trading  will  not 


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Th«  stat«d  goal  of  th*  audit  trail  proposal  is  to  assure 
custaDBE-a  that  U.S.  futures  markatB  are  honest.  Rather  than 
helping  U.S.  exchanges  to  compete  for  business,  this  proposal 
will  actually  cripple  these  markets  by  overburdening 
participants  to  the  extant  that  it  will  be  nearly  inpossible 
for  then  to  function  efficiently,  thereby  destroying  the 
liquidity  that  made  then  successful  in  the  first  place.  It 
is  well-lwiown  in  the  futures  industry  that  the  success  of  a 
market  often  depends  on  which  of  the  conpating  markets 
attracts  the  most  volume  at  the  outset. 

Instead  of  the  above  requirements,  we  believe  that  each 
exchange  should  be  strongly  urged  to  improve  its  surveillance 
and  compliance  trail  systems.  He  believe  it  should  be  within 
the  purview  of  each  exchange  to  determine  these  enhancements 
but  strongly  recommend  adoption  of  the  CKE's  CTS  systea  for 
purposes  of  improving  the  verifiable  accuracy  oC  trade  tiaing 
in  order  to  reach  the  standard  required  to  be  able  to  detect 
abuses  which  may  be  associated  with  dual  trading. 

The  CHE'S  internal  review  committees  have  recommended 
the  following  enhancements  to  our  audit  trail  and 
surveillance  systens; 

Report  matched  trade  information  on  the  trading 
floor  for  self -policing  purposes.  In  addition  to 
the  information  recommended  to  be  displayed  by  the 
Special  Committee,  the  CKE  review  committee  also 
recommended  that  customer  type  indicator  and  order 
type  indicator  information  be  included. 


Increase  floor  surveillance  staff  to  provide 
greater  coverage  of  all  trading  areas,  particularly 
during  market  openings  and  closes  and  during 

periods  of  unusually  active  or  volatile  markets. 


Conduct  a  study  of  the  affecCiveneas  i 
surveillance   for   specific   trading 
inveatigations  on  the  trading  floor. 


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Instltut*  opanlng  and  closing  bracket  indicators  to 
diatinguiah  tradas  occurring  during  th»a«  brla£  and 
activa  parloda  froa  othar  tradaa  which  occur  during 
tha  firat  and  last  halC-hours  of  trading. 

Raqulra  tha  plclc-up  of  tradijig  cards  froa  aaabars 
avary  two  hours.  If  audit  trail  iaprovaaant  goals 
ara  not  aat  vithln  six  nonths,  raqulra  that  trading 
cards  ba  plckad  up  on  an  hourly  basis.  Currantly, 
trading  cards  ara  collactad  twlca  dally. 

Currantly, 

Mr  ordars  by 

Raquira  floor  brokara  and  tradara  to  dasignata 
apraad  tradaa. 

In  ordar  to  Inprova  trada  timing,  raqulra  that 
ordar  typ«  Inforaatlon  ba  subalttad  for  all  nen- 
parsonal  tradaa. 

BBOKEB  AS30CIATI0WS 

nia  CHE  racognizad  that  brolcer  aasoclatlona  parfora  a 
valuabla  rola  in  our  marlcats,  but  can  ba  a  aachanisa  to 
facilltata  trada  practlca  abuaas. 

Tha  CXB  Instltutsd  a  systaa  of  bro>car  association 
ragistratlon  ovar  flva  yaars  ago  and  Implaaantad  trading 
raatrlctlona  among  broker  association  asBbara  mora  than  two 
yaars  ago. 

Tha  CHE's  Special  Coaalttaa  to  Savlav  Trading  Practices 
recoamandod  and  our  internal  Committee  on  Broker  Associations 
has  approved  a  similar  set  of  Exchange  restrictions  on  broker 
associations.  Trading  for  a  personal  or  proprietary  account 
against  a  custoaer  ordar  will  be  prohibited  among  association 
members.  customer^to- customer  order  trading  raetrlctiona 
will  be  maintained  at  25t  of  an  association  member's  total 
volume  In  that  contract. 

PERIOD  OF  HgADTHORIZATTOH 

We  strongly  support  the  proposal  to  establish  tha  CTtC 
as  a  peraanent  agency.  He  agree  that  this  will  allow  a  aora 
efficient  allocation  of  agency  resources  and  aore 
concentrated  efforts   towards   industry   regulation. 


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mrogRCOCTH    SmwrnTT-TAWrW 

N*  agr«e  th«t  undercover  murveillanc*  nay  h«lp  to  d«t*r 
and  deCecC  abucas.  Howcvar,  we  strongly  oppose  undercover 
Invaatlgations  that  saek  to  indue*  wrongdoing  in  order  to 
force  the  wrongdoer  to  testify  against  others  who  may  be  the 
real  targets  of  investigators. 

gOVKHHlMC!  nnaona 

The  CH£  internal  Connittee  on  Disciplinary  Practices 
endorses  the  Special  Committee's  recommendation  that  members 
who  have  bean  convicted  of  a  major  offense  be  barred  from 
serving  on  a  disciplinary  committee  for  a  period  of  five 
years.  In  addition,  it  is  also  recommended  that  members 
convicted  of  minor  rule  violations  be  barred  from  disci- 
plinary committee  aeabership  for  three  years. 

our  Exchange  has  always  anlisted  public  and  industry 
governors  to  s*rv«  on  our  Board.  This  was  the  result  of  our 
judgment  that  this  was  an  advisable  business  practice.  Th* 
composition  of  its  governing  board  is  a  business  decision 
which  exchanges  arrive  at  for  competitive  reasons .  This  is 
another  area  that  should  be  left  to  the  discretion  of  the 
individual  exchanges.  It  is  not  appropriate  in  this  context 
for  congress  to  substitute  its  business  judgment  for  the 
judgment  of  the  institutions  that  are  actually  competing. 

TEtam^KgTTHe    FRAPP 

He  agree  with  the  testimony  that  this  subcommittee  has 
received  that  telemarketing  fraud  in  the  futures  industry 
occurs  in  only  a  vary  small  percentage  (less  than  It]  of  all 
transactions.  He  believe  that  where  these  practices  do 
occur,  they  have  a  disproportionate  negative  reflection  on 
the  industry  as  a  whole  and  must  be  prevented  to  the  extent 
possible  without  hindering  legitimate  retail  trading. 

Currently,  the  industry  must  comply  with  an  extensive 
set  of  rules  respecting  sales  practlcea  that  have  been 
adopted  by  the  CFTC  and  the  National  Futures  Association.  In 
addition,  the  cftc  has  recently  directed  that  each  exchange 
develop  additional  procedures  for  assuring  that  sales 
practice  audit  and  investigative  programs  adequately  address 
the  issue  of  detecting  abusive  oral  sales  representation. 
The  CHE,  for  example,  has  decided  that  its  Compliance  staff 
will  pose  as  customers  over  the  telephone  In  attempting  to 
ascertain  which  firms  are  engaging  in  fraudulent  or  high- 
pressure  oral  sales  solicitations. 


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proposal  ia  attuq^in?  to  >olv«,  but  without  tb*  accoiqiBnylng 
r»conUM«plng  burdww  that  will  b«  placod  on  firs*  to 
daaonatrst*  eoaplianc*  with  tha  ragulation. 

DISCIPLmABT   CQIO.T1TKM 

W«  strongly  oppo**  tha  lapoaltion  of  coiq^sition 
raqulraaanta  on  axchanga  dlaciplinary  coamittaas.  Tha  OtE'a 
Spaclal  CoMBittaa  alraady  baa  aada  a  thoughtful  racoaaan- 
dation  on  this  aubjact  which  haa  bsan  ratiflad  by  tha 
internal  CoBBittaa  on  Disciplinary  Practicss. 

It  would  ba  rash  of  Congrasa  to  mandata  changa  in  tha 
abaanca  of  a  docuaantad  failura  of  tha  currant  disciplinary 
coaaittaa  syaCan.  As  tha  tastimony  haard  by  this 
Subco^ittsa  at  its  last  brisfing  sassion  baars  out,  tha 
CHE'S  and  othar  axcbangaa'  diaclplinary  coBvittaas  act 
fairly.  At  tha  CHE,  aany  aataguards  ara  in  placa  to  pravent 
a  saabar  who  has  a  financial  intarast  in  tha  adjudicatad 
matter  froa  hearing  a  caae.  Alao,  dalibarationa  ara 
conducted  confidentially,  so  that  a  aanbar  need  not  Caar 
retribution  for  his  dacialon. 

The  CHE'S  internal  conmittea  on  Disciplinary  Practices 
baa  andoraad  tha  Spaclal  Coaaittea ' a  proposal  to  add  one 
luiowledgeabla  non~naabar  to  each  Exchange  disciplinary 
coaaittaa  panel.  This  proposal  haa  b«an  structured  to  retain 
the  trading  axpertiaa  nacasaary  to  a  connittee  dalibaratlng 
possible  trading  practice  abuaea  while  injecting  iapartlal 
participation  by  a  )cnowledgeabIe  outaidar.  Wb  balieva  that, 
in  our  caaa,  this  is  tha  bast  remedy  for  the  parcalvad 
problea  that  disciplinary  coaaittaas  have  a  bias  in  favor  of 
Exchange  nembera  against  non-meabers  or  show  favor It isa  to 
influantial  aeabara.  However,  wa  believe  that  this  i» 
another  area  in  which  each  exchange  should  axercisa  its 
discration. 

Rowavar,  if  some  regulatory  raquireaanta  in  thla  ares 
are  daeaad  abaolutely  neceasary,  tha  CFTC  ia  in  a  far  better 
position  than  Congress  to  act  if  change  ia  neceaaary.  The 
CFTC  already  haa  the  toola  necessary  to  do  this. 

HBGTSTRATIOMS 

The  CHE'S  Special  Coaaittee  recoaaanded  and  tha  oa 
internal  coanittaa  on  Adaission  Baqulraaents  has  approved  a 
propoaal  whereby  floor  tradera  would  be  required  to  ragiatar 
as  floor  brokers  in  order  to  get  FBI  fingerprint  checks. 


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ETHICS  TRAIMIHG 

Til*  CHE '  s  Special  Conmlttes  rf  coHfflcnded,  and  th*  CHE 
internal  Conmitta*  on  Adnlsiion  Haquiranents  has  ratlflad,  a 
manda'tary  athlca  program  for  naw  and  axlsting  mambars  which 
vould  ancoMpaas  trading  rules,  fadaral  and  adniniatratlve 
aanctiona  Cor  rula  violations  and  thair  ethical  responsi- 
bllltiaa  thareunder.  in  addition.  It  1>  balng  racanmanded 
that  OUT  aaabara  ba  rauindad  of  thair  ethical  rasponsiblli- 
tlaa  pariodically. 

GLQBHX 

Allow  ma  now  to  digress  a  bit  Cron  the  foregoing 
discussion  relating  to  floor  practices.  Indeed,  if  tbe 
aaotional  impact  of  the  dual  trading  issue  or  the  other 
issues  relating  to  floor  practices  were  not  of  auch 
overriding  momant,  my  testimony  would  havs  begun,  rather  than 
ended,  with  a  ramlnder  that  the  CHE  has  spent  the  batter  part 
of  the  last  two  years  creating  and  implementing  its  global 
alactronlc  trading  systaa  ~~   GLOBEX. 

The  CHE  and  Sautars  Limited  are  developing  GLOBEX  as  an 
electronic  comaunications  network  and  order  matching  system 
that  can  be  used  by  members  of  an  exchange  to  trade  its 
futures  and  options  .  contracts  during  the  boura  that  the 
exchange's  trading  floor  is  closed.  GLOBEX  will  allow 
transactions  in  futures,  options,  and  selected  foreign 
financial  instruments  to  be  executed  from  anywhera  in  the 
world,  instantly,  and  with  financial  integrity. 

It  Is  of  Immediate  concam  to  us  that  the  Bill  falls  to 
acknowledge  tha  existence  of  electronic  trading  systems  which 
guarantee  perfect  audit  trails.  The  prohibitions  that  are 
attached  to  pit  trading  are  equally  attached  to  trading  on 
the  electronic  system.  Again,  wa  are  confident  that  this  is 
the  product  of  the  time  pressure  under  which  the  Bill  was 
prepared.  Ho  matter  what  form  Sections  101  and  102  take, 
they  need  to  exclude  trading  on  electronic  systems  with 
inherently  perfect  audit  trails. 

That  much  is  obvious,  but  tha  creation  of  GLOBEX  by  the 
CHE  and  of  ADSOR&  by  the  Chicago  Board  of  Trade  has  a 
significance  that  seems  to  have  been  all  but  overlooked  whan 
the  philosophy  of  the  BUI  was  formulated.  It  is  absolutely 
and  unequivocally  clear  that  the  exchanges  were  at  the  fore- 
front of  a  monumental  innovation  with  enormous  regulatory  and 
far-reaching  business  consequences.  The  exchanges  moved  to 
implement  better  audit  trails  and  to  afford  thair  customers 
markets  of  unquestionable  Integrity  without  threat  of  legis- 
lative action,  without  administrative  spurring,  and  without 
the  prodding  of  tha  U.S.  Attorney.   He  acted  because  we  were 

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drlvan  by  co«p«titlon,  h«d  tb*  courag*  to  B»k«  bard  d*cl- 
■lona,  and  vrm  abla  to  nova  without  awaiting  aitbar  a 
laglalativa  or  adniniatrativa  initiativa. 

Tha  CKE  concludad  that  Cba  Boat  inportant  trand 
aff acting  sacurltia*  BBTkata  and  capital  foraation  la  tha 
accalaration  toward  intamational  aarlcata.  Capital  aevaa 
acroaa  national  boundaria*  with  incraaalng  aaaa,  raflacting 
both  anhancad  oppartunltiaa  and  aophistication  on  tha  part  of 
Invaatora  to  aiqploit  tha  opportunitlaa.  Tha  CHE 'a  initial 
reaction  to  thia  trand  waa  to  davalop  Coraign  currancy  and 
Eurodollar  futuraa  and  optlona.  Koat  racantly,  tha  davalop- 
oant  of  GLOBEX  acknowladgaa  that  tha  nachaniaa  of  trading 
naada  to  Cit  tha  intamational  conaunity  as  aaaalaaaly  aa  tha 
inaCrumanta  tradad. 

stepa  to  kaap  our  aconoay  in  a  (position  to  B>anafit  froM 
this  trend  nust  ba  mada  today,  or  tha  Unitad  stataa  any  losa 
Its  placa  oC  pra-aainanca  in  tha  world  capital  aarkats. 
Prlvata  U.S.  Ciras  hava  daaonstratad  an  ability  to  Bova 
quickly  and  affactlvaly  in  tbia  anviroraMnt,  but  ragulatory 
burdana  should  ba  addrassad  promptly. 

Trading  can  ba  dona  in  London  or  Tokyo  aa  aasily  aa  in 
Chicago  or  Haw  York.  In  tha  laat  five  years,  naw  futuraa 
axchangaa  have  opanad  or  been  announced  in  London ,  Paris , 
Hong  Kong ,  Sydnay ,  Toronto ,  S  ingapore ,  Nev  Zaaland ,  Brazil , 
Osaka,  Zurich,  Tokyo,  Dublin,  Frankfurt.  Every  financial 
canter  knows  tha  value  of  integrating  actual  or  pessibla 
movaaent  of  London's  FT5E  100  and  Tokyo's  NIKKEI  indicaa  aa 
harbingers  of  the  daya'  ssp  500  aoveaent. 

Regulation  of  aecuritiaa  and  futures  markets  inter- 
nationally has  shown  little  consistency  across  national 
boundaries.  While  regulation  should  be  adequate,  great  care 
must  be  taken  that  our  ragulationa  do  not  place  unnecessary 
conatralnts  on  the  n.S.  aecuritiaa  and  futures  industries. 
Many  inatruments  are  traded  at  aeveral  different  locations 
around  the  world,  and  regulatory  Inequities  could  cbase  tJ.S> 
business  to  foreign  markets. 


The  Chicago  Hercantile  Exchange  ia  firmly  coanitted  to 
meeting  its  self -regulatory  responsibilities.  We  b«lieve 
that  our  record  of  achievenenta  in  this  area  is  well 
documented .  In  addition ,  we  bel leve  that  the  process  by 
which  we  are  examining  tha  entire  scope  of  our  trading  rules 
in  a  very  thorough  and  thoughtful  manner  maeta  the  bluest 
goals  of  self-regulation. 


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He  recognize  that  our  custamars  have  intsraate  in  market 
integrity,  efficiency  and  liquidity  and  we  take  oux  abliga- 
tlons  to  safeguard  these  intaresta  very  aeriously.  Through 
the  exaaination  of  our  rule  enforceaent  syatem,  we  have 
aought  to  structure  recomiBendations  to  further  market  inte- 
grity with  a  minimum  of  market  disruption.  He  beliave  that 
only  by  allowing  U.S.  futures  axchangas  to  determine  markaC- 
•fficlent  neasuraa  to  meet  their  self -regulatory 
responaibilitias  will  tha  V.S.  futures  industry  continue  to 
an  joy  its  pre-aminant  role  among  all  futures  markota 
worldwide . 

I  would  like  to  thank  this  Subcommittee  again  for  the 
opportunity  to  aoBaent  on  these  very  wide-ranging  proposals. 
Of  necessity,  my  conmants  have  bean  long  and  technical  in 
nature.  I  would  be  pleased  to  answer  any  questions  you  may 
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a>e.  lai.   PtKl  TradlM 

Th«  dirvctlon  to  Zb»  CFTC  to  1b>u«  rsTulatlons  to  ban 
dual  trading  In  certain  circuaatancas  fails  to  account  for 
tha  claar  diffarencas  batvaan  plt-baaad  trading  and  trading 
dona  by  naana  of  an  alactronic  ordar  axacution  ayataa  auch  aa 
ttaa  CKB'a  CLOBEX.  SLOBBX  doaa  not  aaka  usa  of  floor  brokars 
who  oparata  in  an  analogou*  fa ah ion  with  tba  pit-baaad 
ayataKi  howavar,  siany  SLOBEX  taminal  oparatora  aay  hold 
floor  broXar  ragiatration.  Ha  aubait  that  tha  lagialation 
naada  to  ba  radraftad  to  diatinguiah  anong  trading  ayatau. 

In  our  opinion,  a  dual  trading  ban  basad  on  an  arbitrary 
numerical  threshold  la  inappropriata .  Tha  theory  underlying 
tha  legislation  la  that  volume  atruataa  to  liquidity  and 
tharafora  a  significant  voluna  laval  guarantees  tha  liquidity 
necassary  to  ban  dual  trading  without  adverse  aarlcat  ia^MCt. 
Tha  rationale  underlying  such  a  principle  is  faulty. 
Liquidity  cannot  be  aeasured  solely  in  terms  of  average 
volume,  taut  rather  in  tarma  of  the  ability  of  tbe  aarkat 
throughout  tha  trading  day  to  allov  the  pronpt  execution  of 
orders  without  causing  undue  price  gaps- 
Reliance  solely  on  a  voIu»e  nunber  fails  to  talM  Into 
account  the  distinct  and  highly  relevant  variables  among 
markets.  If  ordar  flow  to  a  particular  market  is  even  and  of 
a  relatively  uniform  size,  than  a  contract  aonth  that 
averages  7 ,  OOO  contracts  per  day  may  be  sufficiently 
developed  so  that  a  ban  on  dual  trading  will  have  only  a 
alight  impact.  However,  if  a  market  has  the  opposite 
characteristics,  namely  uneven  order  flow  and  widely 
disparately  sized  orders,  then  7,000  contracts  per  day  is  ao 
Indication  that  the  contract  can  survive  the  elimination  of 
dual  trading.  Simply  atatad,  each  market  has  Its  own 
Idiosyncracies .  Svery  contract  market  —  soybeans,  cattle, 
gold,  Interaat  rates,  oil,  cocoa  — •  has  a  distinct  user 
community  of  coDmercial  hedgers  with  different  volume  needs 
that  change  over  time.  There  is  no  uniform  appropriate 
volume  threahold  that  transfers  from  commodity  to  commodity 
or  exchange  to  exchange. 

The  Bill  applies  the  volume  threshold  to  the  "contract 
market"  aa  an  entirety,  ignoring  tha  different  circumstances 
of  various  "contract  months."  Thus,  if  the  active  month 
tradea  e,SOO  contracts  par  day  and  an  Inactive  month  trades 
500  and  only  has  two  brokers  and  two  local  traders,  the  Bill 
would  bar  dual  trading  across  the  board  and  severely  restrict 
competition  in  the  less  active  month. 


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Th«  Bill  also  aata  forth  an  unworkable  tes?  Cor  th*  CFTC 
to  increas*  or  decrease  the  thceshold  trading  level.  The 
CFTC  ia  called  upon  to  determine  that  the  prohibition  against 
dual  trading  "createa  undesirable  price  volatility,  widening 
of  the  bid-aak  spread,  or  otherwise  threatens  the  public 
intarcst."  It  is  highly  unlikely  that  the  CFTC  can  or  would 
devote  the  reaourcea  to  perfecting  a  test  that  will  be  able 
to  isolate  the  impact  of  dual  trading  in  this  context.  That 
being  the  case,  this  language  encouragea  litigation  on  any 
occasion  the  CFTC  would  diverge  from  the  artificial 
thraahold. 

Th*  Bill ' s  exemption  from  th*  prohibition  on  dual 
trading  baaed  on  the  aoundneas  of  the  audit  trail  is  correct 
in  concept  but  imperfectly  applied.  The  Bill  requirea  that 
th*  audit  trail  "detect  any  and  all  Instancas  of  trading 
violations"  and  further  requirea  that  the  audit  trail  be 
"fully  verifiable. "  These  are  impossible  atandarda. 
Perfection  is  not  attainable  in  the  futures  industry  nor  any 
other.  Detection  of  "any  and  all"  instancea  of  wrongdoing  is 
an  unreasonable  standard  that  can  never  be  met. 

Tbe  exemptions  are  not  complete .  There  is  good  reason 
to  allow  a  member  on  the  floor  to  give  hia  order  to  any 
broker  he  chooses,  including  a  broker  who  trades  for  hia  own 
account.  There  is  no  reason  to  require  the  formality  of  a 
written  fora  in  order  to  permit  thia  practice.  Th*  restric- 
tion of  a  broker's  ability  to  trade  out  of  his  errora  to  the 
next  day ' s  opening  is  disastrous .  A  broker  who  makes  an 
error  muat  be  free  to  immediately  trade  out  of  the  position. 
No  one  could  afford  to  act  aa  a  broker  if  required  to  hold 
positions  assumed  in  error  until  the  next  day'a  opening. 

The  exemption  for  spread  brokers  is  insufficient.  The 
exemption  ia  needed  to  protect  spread  brokers  that  attempt  to 
fill  an  order  and  complete  only  one  aide  of  the  spread.  That 
position  then  belongs  to  the  broker.  If  spread  brokera  war* 
unabl*  to  "leg  on"  by  buying  one  side  at  a  tinie  in  the  hope 
of  then  getting  the  reat  of  th*  spread,  c-uatomers  would 
suffer  serious  conseguencea . 

Sec.  102. Trading  Unnnfj   MMit>^ra  pf  pyo^er  ^aoeiationa 

He  commend  the  purpoae  of  this  section,  which  is  to 
clarify  that  just  as  it  is  wrong  for  an  individual  floor 
broker  to  "front-run"  or  in  any  method  abuse  a  customer  trade 
by  dual  trading,  then  the  same  should  be  prohibited  for 
broker  associatlona .  However,  the  legislative  language  sets 
forth  serious  unintended  consequences. 


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■acb  as  GLOBEX.  C«rt«ln  ■■Mtwrs  of  m  brekar  «ssocl*tlon, 
on*  trkdlng  Cor  a  eu«tcn«r,  anothar  trading  for  hia  oim 
account,  could  In  fact  taka  opi^alta  aldaa  of  a  transaction, 
and  unbaknownat  to  thaaaalvas  ba  automatically  aatchad  In  tb« 
CL08ZX  syataa.  Whlla  thay  ara.aaabara  oC  an  aaaociatlon,  im 
wronqdolng  can  occur  In  th*  CLOBEX  aystaa  which  la  totally 
nautral  to  who  la  aatchad  In  tradaa,  rathar  It  doas  it  en  a 
prlca  and  tiaa  saquanca  baals. 

Further,  tha  Bill  would  lapoaa  an  artificial  lagialatad 
parcantaga  point  aa  an  approprlata  tr ana action  thraahold 
prohibition.  The  objection  la  not  that  tha  2S%  la  Inappro- 
prlata,  but  rather  that  It  is  Inadvlaable  to  put  In  place 
any  parcentag*  in  law.  The  Clexibllity  to  detaraina  an 
appraprlata  percentage  threahold  should  exist  so  that  it  can 
ba  relaxed ,  or  aad*  aore  stringent ,  as  conditions  warrant . 
The  Bill  should  set  forth  tha  purpose  to  ba  accoapllahad,  and 
direct  tha  CFTC  to  require  tha  exchangas  to  adopt  appropriate 
rulaa  to  aeet  that  goal.  This  would  provide  for  tha  Clexi- 
bllity to  deal  with  tha  changes  in  technology,  and  to 
conaldar  tha  benaflta  extant  with  broker  aaaoclatl ona , 
specifically  tha  coabination  of  greater  capitalization,  and  a 
continuing  long-ten  coaaitaant  to  tha  brokerage  fausinass. 

TTTIJ    TT.        MltMieiBnOfT    OF    BBajTATOBV    AgPTtfTT)  KH 

See,  aoi.   Jmdit  Trail. 

Our  principal  objactlon  to  this  ssction  is  that  it 
deaanda  a  result  without  reference  to  tha  value  of  that 
result  and  the  consaquancas  of  achieving  it.  The  goal  la  a 
verifiable  audit  trail  effective  In  deterring  and  datscting 
abuses.  Mandating  thirty-second  tlae  accuracy  within  three 
years  is  not  the  way  to  that  end.  The  CFTC  should  bs  allowed 
to  dateralne  an  acceptable  threshold  of  verlflabiilty,  and  we 
should  recognize  it  nay  change  over  tiae. 

Section  201  ahould  thua  delate  aec.  20l(a> C) (B) (11) (b) . 

Sec.  30l<b)  requiring  that  "every  contract  Barket" 
coaplles  with  tbs  spsclfically  delineated  audit  trail 
ragulrsBsnts  as  a  condition  of  dssignatlon  Is  over  broad. 
Tha  language  would  apparently  rsquirs  either  Imeed lately 
ceasing  all  futures  trading  until  each  exchange  deaonstrated 
that  it  is  in  coBplianca,  or  require  the  CFTC  to  so  aasert 
coapllanca.  The  CFTC  has  the  current  authority  to  revoke  any 
contract  aarket  daaignatlon  If  It  finds  surveillance 
inconsistent  with  tha  Act. 


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SW=i     302. T«tT>»tljKi  Fraud 

Sec.  202(a)  should  b«  raviaed  to  direct  the  CFTC  to 
accowplisb  approprlst*  regulations  and  sat  forth  the  custoaer 
peotactlon  goals. 

aws.  303. ondereovr  Operations  and  Bnf«»'^— «<<• 

This  language  is  redundant.  This  is  aade  clear  by  th« 
phrase  "the  Coamission  ahaii  eontinua"  the  prscioe  authority 
this  section  delineates.  The  CFTC  has  the  authority  to 
cooperate  uith  appropriate  Federal  agencies  and  has  done  so. 
All  cnc  aBploysas  ara  prohibited  from  trading  tutures 
contracts,  wbich  1b  appropriate,  and  thus  it  does  not  have, 
nor  should  it  have,  the  ability  to  conduct  undercover 
investigations.  That  Is  the  purview  of  the  FBI,  and 
obviously  that  is  the  status  of  the  current  law. 

Thus  Sec.  203  should  be  stricXen.  Any  discussion  of 
undercover  operations,  and  the  CoimisBion's  cooperation  with 
saae,  can  be  part  of  legislative  report  language. 

See,  ao*. Self-regulatorv  Oraanization  DlaclpHnm-y 

^^^«■^1■^■—  and  Covemlno  Board* 

The  CFTC  has  the  authority  to  conduct  a  rule-«aking  on 
the  structure  of  disciplinary  comolttees.  That  is  the 
appropriate  nethod  for  determining  what,  if  any,  iaproveaents 
are  necessary.  nie  Bill  atteapt  at  committee  restructuring 
la  based  on  a  premise  that  is  without  evidence;  i.e.,  that 
the  current  disciplinary  structure  is  flawed.  Further,  Bill 
language  requiring  that  staff  aembers  of  the  exchange  serve 
on  disciplinary  comgittees  is  a  serious  error.  CHE  staff  are 
eaployees  of  the  Exchange  and  should  not  be  the  judges  of  the 
members.  Further,  the  requirement  that  the  coaaittee  be 
composed  of  a  majority  of  persons  of  a  different  trading 
status  than  the  respondent  is  totally  unwarranted  and 
unworkable.  Henbecs  are  traders,  and  virtually  all 
disciplinary  committees,  by  their  nature,  involve  aenbers  - 
disciplining  members  who  are  of  the  same  trading  status. 
Committees  should  be  coaposed  of  experts  who  understand  their 
responaibility  to  ensure  markets  are  honest. 

The  CFTC  presently  has  the  power  to  effectively 
establish  and  adainlster  a  rule  enforcement  program.  The  CHE 
and  other  exchanges  currently  publish  accurate  descriptions 
of  the  context  that  was  the  basis  of  a  rule  violation.  These 
are  proainently  posted  outside  of  the  trading  floor.  There 
is  no  evidence  that  what  constitutes  a  aajor  violation  la 
unknown. 


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Psnalty  guld*lln«B  for  rul«  violations  involvlnq 
financial  injury  to  public  cuaCoaars  ara  importairt.  TtM  CHE 
Spacial  CoBuittaa  raconaandad  savara  panaltiaa,  including 
suspanaion  of  Bavbarship  privilagaa  and  aicpulaion.  Whan 
naabarahip  haa  baan  auapandad,  tha  individual  ia  unabla  to 
aarva  on  disciplinary  or  govamlng  commitcaaa  of  tha 
axchanga,    and  thus   tha   laglalativa   languaga    ia   radundant. 

Tha  racownandation  of  a  lagialatad  cart a in  parcantaga 
for  tha  nunbar  of  outaida  govarnors  for  a  board  la 
inapproprlata.  Tbla  ia  a  buainasa  judgaant.  Corporata 
govarnanca  diacuaaiona  today  oftan  urga  a  broadar 
rapraaantation  of  outaida  diractora  and/or  a  concoaltant 
liait  to  tha  numbar  of  officara  on  a  board  of  diractora. 
Hovavar,  just  as  thara  ia  no  statutory  raquirenant  on  this 
undar    tha    sacuritiaa    lava,     nor    should    thara    ba    undar    tha 

C.E.A. 

Sac.    2Q5. Raquirad  Baaiatration  of  Flc»r  Tfadara 

He  andorsa  tha  concapt  of  raglstaring  floor  tradars. 
Tha  principal  purpoaa  for  doing  so  is  to  obtain  tha  FBI 
fingarprint  chack  halpful  to  anhanca  a  thorough  background 
raviaw  of  tha  individual  trader.  Hovavar,  tha  Bill  languaga 
specificity      cauaas      concern.  By     axavpla,      the     Bill's 

definition    of     " floor    trader"     could    ba    nisconatruad     in    a 
SLOBEX-AOSORA      electronic     trading      schaaa.  In     short, 

regulatory   flexibility   for   "floor   trader"    registration  would 
be  batter  Bccoaplished  under  rula-aaXlng. 

wa      oppoaa 
instituting     unnai 

Wa  andoraa  aac.  205(a)  furthering  the  applicable 
exaaption  of  contract  aarkats,  claaringhouaa ,  floor  brokers, 
or  floor  tradera  from  the  appropriate  axai^tion  of 
jurisdiction  by  the  states. 

aining      appropriate 

See.    20«. Rnhancanant  of  Raoiatration  PTMriBMltl 

TbM  CHE  generally  agraea  that  registration  raguiraaanta 
should  ba  tightened,  but  rafara  you  to  tha  tastiaony  of 
Robert  K.  Hilwouth,  Preaident,  National  Puturea  Association, 
on  this  topic .  The  HFA  haa ,  ainca  1935 ,  assuaed  tba 
registration  raaponaibilitiaa   for  tha   futuraa   induatry. 


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a*c.  a07. enforcCTMrt:  of  civil  Mywy  PiialtlBa 

H«  endors*  aBandlng  tha  Act  to  d«lat*  the  raqulreiMnt 
that  financial  considaratlons  of  th«  violator  and  his  ability 
to  continue  in  businaa*  naad  not  be  part  oC  the  consideration 
for  assessing  tha  fin«,  restricting  penalties  solely  to  the 
gravity  of  the  violation.  However,  we  question  the 
appropriateness  of  a  aers  fifteen  day  period  for 
accoMplishing  full  paynent.  This  has  vestiges  of  imprisoning 
delators  fcr  inability  to  pay.  Accepting  the  iaportance  of 
racslving  full  payment  and  interest  thereon,  flexibility  for 
procedures  to  ensure  that  payment  can  be  accomplished  would 
seam  more  sensible.  The  same  analysis  applies  to  the  thirty 
day  requirement  subsequent  to  appeals.  We  endorse  the 
concept  of  expanded  efforts  toward  collection  for  those  who 
fail  to  pay,  but  believe  the  tine  frame  for  accomplishing 
payment  should  be  significantly  broadened;  e.g.,  six  months, 
with  interest  to  comMence  accruing  after  fifteen  days. 

See.  20H. Ethics  Training  tor  Reaiatranta 

a   rule-BBklng  on  establishing  ethics 

3^^t;.  299. Wat^onwlde  Service  of  Proceaa  and  Venue 

we  endorse  this  jurisdictional  broadening. 

TTTLE  Til.   AaSISTAMCB  TO  PORBIGW  FnTORES  AOTHaRITIgS 

Ha  andorsa  the  following  sections,  recognizing  the 
globalization  of  futures  trading,  and  the  need  for 
cooperation  among  regulatory  counterparts; 


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in*. 

He  endorse  this  section  requiring  cooperation.  However, 
we  note  that  the  CFTC  is  only  required  to  "consider"  whether 
reciprocal  cooperation  exists,  when  it  determines  whether  or 
not  to  provide  assistance,  and  further  to  only  "consider" 
whether  the  request  would  prejudice  the  public  interest  to 
the  United  States.  The  CFTC  is  in  a  better  position  than  an 
exchange  to  evaluate  this  language. 


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S«c.  301.   Daflnitlon  of  Foreign  Futureg  Authority 

H«  andaraa  th«  r«quir*B«nt  tlMt  tb*  CFTC  not  b* 
ooiqMllAd  to  dlaclos*  «ny  inConution  obtalnad  froa  a  foralgn 
futures  authority.  Hovavar,  wa  baliova  th«  Bill's  axcaptions 
to  this  diacloaura  protaction  ara  too  broad  •  Na  would 
raatrict  discloaura  to  axclusivaly  adainistratlva  or  judicial 
procaadinga,  racalvarship  or  bankruptcy  procaadinga  to  which 
tba  CFTC  haa  a  right  to  appaar .  Rowavar ,  wa  rarn— ami 
liHlting  >uch  diacloaura  to  a  congrasaional  procaading. 
Violationa  of  confidantiality  in  congraaaional  procaadinga 
ara  unCortunataly  a  wall-known  fact,  and  that  poaalbllity 
could  Inhibit  foralgn  futuraa  authoritlas  fron  cooparatlng. 

Ha  andoraa  thaaa  proviaions. 

tTTTX    TV.        XimWItTZATTmi    QF    APPHOPBIATIOWS I     MTKCTTV*    Itt'PK 

a«c-  ^Ol- Autherlaatian  of  Anpronriationa 

Ha  aupport  tha  provlaion  waking  tha  CFTC  a  paraanant 
agancy  on  full  aquivalant  status  with  tha  SEC.  Wa  aupport 
this  provision  which  dlscontlnuas  tha  thra*  or  four  yaar 
raautlwr  1  z  atl  on . 


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TESTIMONY  OF  ROBERT  K.  WIU40UTH 
PRESIDENT 

NATIONAL  FUTURES  ASSOCIATION 

BEFORE  THE  HOUSE  AGRICULTURE  SUBCOMMITTEE 

Oil  CONSERVATION,  CREDIT,  AND  RURAL  DEVELOPMENT 

RE:  H.R.  2869 


I.    IMTRODOCTIOM 

My  nam«  Is  Robert  K.  HilKouth  and  I  an  tiia  Prasident  of 
National  Futures  Association.   HFA  wslconcs  this  opportunity  to 
prassnt  its  viaws  on  tha  proposed  lagislatlon  pandinq  before  this 
ConiBittae.   Tha  laauas  involvad  ara  both  complex  and  important. 
Congress  must  once  again  perfom  a  difficult  balancing  act.  On 
the  one  hand.  Congress  oust  provide  sufficient  regulation  to 
ensure  the  fairness  of  and  public  confidence  in  U.S.  futures 
markets.   On  the  other  hand.  Congress  must  avoid  unduly  burden- 
some regulations  which  could  impair  the  afflclency  and  usefulness 
of  those  narkets  and  erode  the  position  of  U.S.  markets  in  an 
evermore  competitive  global  marketplace. 

From  its  unique  position  in  the  regulatory  structure  of 
the  industry,  HFA  may  have  a  somewhat  different  perspective  than 
soma  of  those  who  will  testify  before  you.  As  envisioned  by 
Congress  and  implemented  by  our  Board,  KFA  was  never  intended  to 
duplicate,  and  has  not  duplicated,  tha  regulatory  efforts  of  the 
exchanges.   NFA's  authority,  therefore,  focuses  not  on  exchange 


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trading  floor*,  but  on  all  otli«r  «sp«cts  o£  it*  Msabmra'  daallngt 
vlth  th*  public.   HFA's  pri«arr  rasponaibilltiM  includat 

developing  and  enforcing  custOHvr  protaction  rulaa  to 
•nsura  that  M««b«r«  obsarv*  tha  hi^iaat  poaaibla 
•thical  atandards  in  thalr  buaineas  and  salas  prae- 
ticas ; 

pravanting  unathical  firas  and  individual*  froa  antar- 
ing  th*  industry  by  parforalng  tha  ragiatratlon  func- 
tion on  bahair  of  tha  CoaBlaaion; 
protactlng  custoaar*  by  aducating  thea  about  tha 
futuraa  aarkata  and  thair  riaka  ao  that  custoaera  can 
■aka  fully  inforaad  invast>ant  daciaion*;  and 
providing  customars  with  an  arbitration  forua  which 
provides  a  fair,  proapt  and  Inaxpanalv*  saana  of 
resolving  disputes. 

UFA'S  accoBpliahaents  in  each  of  these  areas  since  the 
laat  raauthorlsation  hava  baan  detailed  in  a  lengthy  report  va 
have  previously  provided  to  each  of  you.   The  Executive  Suiwary 
of  that  report  is  attached  to  ny  written  autaaiasion. 

Certain  of  the  proposed  aaandaanta  to  tha  Act  that  you 
are  considering  would  directly  i^act  UFA  in  carrying  out  our 
regulatory  responsibilities.   I  would  Ilka  to  coaaent  on  those 
proposals  with  soae  specific  observations.  Other  issues  you  are 
dealing  with  aay  not  directly  lopact  HFA  but  could  have  a  pro- 
found impact  on  the  futures  industry.  On  those  issues  HFA  is  a 


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v«ry  lnt«r«st«d  bystander  and  I  would  offer  more  general  observa- 
tlone  on  those  points. 

II.   DUAL  TRADIKG/AUDIT  TRAILS 

TWO  ol  these  issues  which  do  not  directly  concern  hfa 
involve  dual  trading  and  audit  trails.  Audit  trails  do  not 
directly  affect  HFA  since  we  do  not  operate  a  oarlcstplace.   I 
would  only  note  in  passing  that  in  considering  whether  to  reijuire 
further  improvements  to  exchange  audit  trails.  Congress  must  not 
lose  sight  of  the  progress  which  has  already  been  made  In  this 
area.   The  trade  reconstruction  capacity  of  the  exchanges  is  now 
vastly  superior  to  what  it  was  just  a  few  short  years  ago,  and  in 
most  contract  months  the  exchanges  can  reconstruct  trading 
activity  with  90%  accuracy.  That  is  not  to  say  that  further 
improvements  should  not  be  made.  But  the  one  thing  which  the 
various  investigations  Into  the  October  19ST  crash  proved  con- 
clusively was  that  the  audit  trails  In  the  futures  marlcete  set 
the  standards  for  other  markets  to  match. 

With  respect  to  dual  trading,  I  suppose  the  only 
statement  that  everyone  would  agree  with  is  that  this  issue  is 
extraordinarily  complex.  Hone  can  deny  that  public  confidence  In 
the  U.S.  futures  markets  is  critical  to  the  continuing  success  of 
those  markets.   That  public  confidence  is  based  on  both  the 
integrity  end  efficiency  of  those  merkets. 


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ni*  integrity  of  thos*  aarkats  ha*  b**n  cillad  into 
qiMstion  by  soa*  b*cau>«  th«  practice  of  dual  trading  can  craata 
tha  appaarane*  of  custoaer  abuaa.   And  whan  you  are  dealing  with 
public  confidence,  appearancea  can  be  aa  laqportant  aa  r*ality> 
However,  in  deciding  whether  to  Baintain  public  confidence  by 
regulating  the  practice  of  dual  trading,  Congreas  auat  aova  with 
great  caution. 

Public  confidence  ia  iaportant  to  th*  aarketa  but  no 
■ore  ao  than  market  efficiency,  mat  efficiency  dependa  on  tb« 
liquidity  offered  by  U.S.  futurea  aarketa,  liquidity  which  is  tha 
envy  of  all  of  our  world  coapetitora.  Dual  trading  aakaa  an 
ii^ortant  contribution  to  that  liquidity  and  any  legislative 
action  which  conld  affect  aarlcat  liquidity,  the  cornerstone  of 
our  efficient  aarkets,  should  be  a.ppTO»eb»d   with  great  cautimi. 
Thia  ia  particularly  true  In  trying  to  design  a  solution  irtiieb 
would  apply  not  juat  to  one  contract  or  to  one  axchanga  but  on  ut 
industrywide  basis.   A  second  point  to  consider  is  how  tha 
concema  over  potential  abuaaa  in  dual  trading  can  be  addreaaad 
through  liqiroved  audit  traila.   Aa  thia  bill  racognlzaa,  the 
better  th*  audit  trail  to  detect  actual  abuaaa,  tba  lasa  the 
public  concern  over  potential  abuses  and  the  less  the  need  for  a 
ban  on  dual  trading.  The  bill  provides  that  th*  ban  on  dual 
trading  would  be  lifted  irtien  an  exchange's  trade  reconstruction 
is  loot  accurate.   But  given  the  liq^ortance  of  dual  trading  to 
the  efficiency  of  our  aarketa  and  the  inevitability  of  huaan 


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error.  Congress  must  consider  whether  a  trade  reconstruction 
standard  of  absolute  perfection  is  More  denandinq  than  necessary 
and,  pertiaps,  unobtainable. 

The  issuss  are  difficult,  the  stakes  are  high  and 
Congress  should  take  great  care  to  hear  all  of  the  interested 
parties,  learn  all  of  the  relevant  facta  and  consider  all  of  the 
possible  ramifications  before  taXlng  any  final  action. 

III.   REGISTRATIOM  REQ^IIREMEI^T9 

one  of  the  best  ways  to  protect  the  public  from 
unscrupulous  firms  and  Individuals  is  to  keep  those  people  out  of 
the  industry  in  the  first  place.   That  Is  the  job  that  NFA  has 
been  handling  since  October  1,  1985,  when  it  assunad  respon- 
sibility for  denying,  revoking,  restricting  or  conditioning 
registration  for  all  categories  except  floor  brokers  and  leverage 
transaction  aerchants.  NFA  has  done  that  job  by  applying  the 
tvio-tlered  system  of  disqualifications  from  registration  which 
Congress  established  in  1982.   Sections  8a<2)  and  aa(3)  of  the 
Act  have  proved  to  be  effective  tools  in  maintaining  the  high 
fitness  standards  of  the  futures  industry,  but  H7A  agrees  with 
the  Committee  that  those  provisions  can  bo  fine-tuned  and 
improved.   HFA  strongly  supports  the  proposed  anendments. 

In  general,  the  proposed  amendments  will  tighten  the 
fitness  standards  of  the  futures  Industry.   At  the  same  time,  the 
suggested  anendments  retain  the  critical  distinction  between  the 


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mar*  agrsgious  dlsquallticatlona  sat  forth  In  SacCion  Sa(2)  of 
the  Act  and  the  lass  serious  disqualifications  sat  forth  in 
Sactlon  8a(3)  of  th«  Act. 

Th«  proposad  aMandaiants  would  also  codify  certain  of 
th*  Connisslon's  and  HFA's  prior  intsrpratations  of  the  existing 
disqualification  provisions  and  would  rasolv*  certain  anbiguitias 
In  the  Act  which  NFA  has  ancounterad  over  the  past  few  years. 

To  suminariza,  it  is  NPA's  view  that  the  proposed 
anendmants  to  the  disqualification  provisions  of  the  Act  will 
strengthen  the  fitness  standards  of  the  futures  industry,  promote 
fairness  and  unifomity  of  treatment  among  similarly  situated 
applicants  and  registrants  and  further  serve  to  streamline  and 
simplify  registration  disqualification  proceedings.   A  more 
detailed  analysis  of  HFA's  supftort  of  the  proposed  amendments  is 
set  forth  below. 

Section  Baf2WCUiil  of  the  Act 

At  the  present,  Section  Sa(2} (C) (il)  of  the  Act  pro- 
vides, in  pertinent  part,  that  a  parson  is  disqualified  from 
registration  if  he  is  permanently  or  temporarily  enjoined 
from  "engaging  in  or  continuing  any  activity  involving  any 
transaction  in  or  advice  concerning  contracts  of  sale  of  a 
commodity  for  future  delivery. ., or  concerning  securities." 
The  language  used  in  Section  Ba(2) (C) (11)  is  rather  broad. 
Theoretically,  Section  8a(2)(C](ii]  of  the  Act  disqualifies 
a  person  or  firm  which  Is  enjoined  from  simply  engaging  in 


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certain  futures  or  securities  recordkeeping  violations. 
Further,  this  Section  of  the  Act  arguably  disqualifies  from 
registration  persons  and  firms  who,  though  subject  to  a 
permanent  injunction  involving  securities,  nevertheless 
obtained  or  retained  registration  troM  the  Securities 
Exchange  Comolsslon,  the  National  Association  of  Securities 
Dealers  or  a  state  securities  commission,  which  Initiated 
the  injunctive  action. 

At  the  sane  tine.  Section  aa[2) (C) (ii)  of  the  Act  is 
perhaps  too  narrowly  drafted.   It  covers  only  Injunctions 
involving  futures  or  securities.   As  currently  written. 
Section  8a(2)(C)(ii)  does  not  Include  injunctions  which, 
although  not  involving  futures  or  securities,  nevertheless 
involve  serious  wrongdoing.   For  example,  state  insurance  or 
state  gambling  coBmissioners  may  obtain  court  orders  enjoin- 
ing wrongful  conduct.   However,  such  injunctive  orders  are 
not  covered  currently  by  Section  8a(2)(C)(ii}  of  the  Act. 

HFA  favors  the  proposed  amendments  to  this  provision 
which  encompass  the  most  serious  types  of  injunctions, 
regardless  of  whether  such  injunctions  Involve  futures  or 
securities,  such  as  those  involving  theft,  fraud,  fraudulent 
conversion,  misappropriation  of  funds,  securities  or  prop- 
erty, false  pretenses  and  deception  of  custoir.ers.  nFA  also 
supports  the  proposed  amendments  which  explicitly  create  an 
exception  for  injunctions  which  are  not  deemed  to  constitut.a 


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disqualificatiiona  tzom  raqlatratlon  by  the  ragulatory  agency 
which  initiiatad  tha  Injunctive  action.  HFA  anticipat«B  that 
If  thaaa  propoaed  aaandaants  ara  adoptad,  it  will  ba  abl«  to 
concantrata  Ita  efforta  and  rasourcaa  on  aora  sarioua 
injunctiona,  rather  than  Bp«nd  tima  on  »attara  which  ara  of 
a  dS  ■int»ia  natura  or  which  tha  primary  ragulator  did  not 
rwgard  as  constituting  a  disqualification  froa  ragiatration. 


Saetion  8«faWD>  of  tha  Act 

At  prsaant.  Section  Sa(2)(D)  of  tha  Act  providaa  that 
certain  typea  of  aerioua  felony  convictlona  within  the  lost 
ten  years  qualify  aa  diaqualiflcations  fro*  registration. 
HFA  agrees  with  the  CoBvlttae.  that  Section  6a(2)  (D)  (iii)  o£ 
the  Act  can  be  strengthened  by  including  felonies  which 
involve  dacaption  of  cuatoaera.  In  HFA'a  view,  such  felon- 
ies bear  directly  on  a  person's  fitness  for  registration. 

K7A  also  favors  awending  Section  ea(2)(I»(iv)  of  the 
Act  to  include  serious  felony  offenses  under  other  sections 
of  titles  18  and  26  of  the  United  States  Coda.   Virtually 
every  criminal  federal  case  involving  commodities  or  securi- 
ties includes  violations  of  one  or  more  of  the  fallowing 
federal  criminal  statutes  which  are  not  currently  included 
in  Section  aa(3)(D)<iv)  of  the  Act: 

1)  le  U.S.c.  s  1001  [false  statenents) ; 

2)  IB  U.S.C.  S  371  (conspiracy) ; 

3)  26  U.S.C.  ff  7201  and  7206  (tax  evasion  and  tax  f raud) ; 

4)  18  U.S.C.  S  1S03  (obstruction  of  justice] ; 

5)  IS  U.S.C.    f   1623    (perjury); 


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6)  18  u.s.c.  f  2314  (int«rstat«  transportation  of  stolen 
property) ;  and 

7)  IB  U.S.C.  ss  1961-1963  (rackeCacrin?) . 

KFA  cantenplatas  that  Section  8a(2)(D)(iv}  will  b*  sig- 
nificantly Btrengthanad  it  thasa  cerious  Cslony  convictions 
are  added  to  the  list  of  disqualifying  offanses. 

Sactlon  Ba(2WBl  of  tha  Act 

Section  aa[2)[E)  of  the  Act  currently  disqualifi«B 
persons  who  havs  been  found  to  have  violated  certain  serious 
provisions  of  a  nunber  of  specified  federal  and  state 
statutes  and  the  regulations,  rules  or  orders  thereunder. 
The  Coimiisslon  has  indicated  in  an  interpretive  notice  that, 
as  currently  dratted.  Section  8a(2) (E)  may  be  interpreted  to 
authorize  the  Conunission  to  affect  the  registration  of  a 
parson  subject  bo  findings  described  In  such  Section,  which 
are  made  In  a  proceeding  initiated  by  a  private  party  either 
in  a  court  of  law  or  In  a  reparations  natter.   The  Conmis- 
slon  has  indicated,  however,  that  such  private  litigation  is 
Intended  priaarily  to  provide  restitution  to  the  customer 
and  Is  not  intended  to  be  punitive  in  nature.  Thus,  the 
Commission  has  decided  that  it  may  be  inappropriate  to  use 
findings  in  such  proceedings  to  affect  the  registration  of 
any  person  under  Section  8a(2) (E)  of  the  Act.   However,  the 
Coamission  has  made  It  clear  that  such  findings  may  be  used 
to  Initiate  a  disguallCicatlon  procaadlng  under  Section 
Sa(3) (K]  of  the  Act.  Sfifi  Appendix  A  to  Part  3  of  tha 


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CoHilsslon  Ragulationa,  1  Coaa.  Put.  L.  Rap.  13330L  at  3346 
(1984). 

NFA  mupparta  tha  propoaad  aaandManta  to  Saction 
8a(3>(B)  which  would  codify  tha  Coaaiaaion'a  intarprativa 
atataaant  on  thla  Saction.  nta  propoaad  aaandBanta  rastrict 
this  Saction 's  applicability  to  adalnlatrativa  procaadinga 
brought  Bay  tha  Co^laalon,  or  any  Cadaral,  atata  or  othar 
govamaantal  body.   HPA  alao  aupporta  aaandlng  Saction 
8a(3>(K}  to  Includa  vlolatlona  of  tha  Rackataar  Influancad 
and  Corrupt  Organlsatlona  Act  ("RICO"}.  HFA  aharaa  tha 
Coaaittaa'a  viaw  that  vlolatlona  of  RICO  ara  aa  aarioua.  If 
not  aora  ao,  than  certain  of  the  vlolatlona  of  the  atatutea 
currently  enuaeratad  in  Saction  Sa(3) (E) . 

Purtheraore,  HFA  favora  amending  thla  Section  to 
include  vlolatlona  which  involve  decai^lon  of  cuatoaera. 
Thla  language,  which  tracks  the  propoaad  oKendaent  to 
Saction  8a(2) (D) (ill)  of  the  Act,  would  encoapaaa  violations 
which  bear  directly  on  a  person's  fitness  for  registration, 
but  which  aay  tall  outside  the  paraaatars  of  Saction 
ea(3)(E}  of  tha  Act  as  currently  drafted. 

Section  BafZlfSl  of  tha  Act 

Section  8a(2)(G)  of  th«  Act  dlsquallfias  troa  ragistra- 
tlon  any  parson  who  willfully  aakaa  any  falaa  or  alaleading 
stataaant  or  oaittad  to  atata  any  aatarlal  fact  in  hla 
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in  Sactlons  aa(2] (A)  through  (F)  of  th*  Act.   HPA  supports 
th«  propoB«d  amendMents  to  this  Section  which  would  dis- 
qualify any  psrson  who  aaXas  any  willful  ■atsrisl  ovlasion  ' 
or  aislsading  statsmsnt  conc«mlng  any  disqualification 
und«r  slthsr  Section  8a(2}  or  Section  8a(3)  of  the  Act. 

It  is  wall-«stabliah«d  that  MFA's  fitness  deteraina- 
tions  depand,  in  part,  on  full  disclosure  of  all  material 
information.   HFA  agrees  that  it  is  highly  inappropriate  to 
allow  an  applicant  to  obtain  a  temporary  license  or  for  a 
registrant  to  remain  registered,  trtio  has  failed  to  disclose 
the  fact  that  he  may  be  subject  to  a  statutory  disqualifica- 
tion.  The  inappropr lateness  of  allowing  a  deceptive  person 
to  obtain  or'  retain  registration  does  not  lessen  because  he 
may  be  subject  to  a  Section  Sa(3]  rather  than  a  Section 
Ba[3)  disqualification.  NFA  believes  that  Congress  can 
undersc'ore  the  importance  of  full  disclosure  on  registration 
applications  and  amendments  tharato  by  adopting  the  proposed 

HFA  also  supports  the  proposed  amendments  which  make  it 
clear  that  omissions  and  misleading  statements  in  updates  to 
registration  applications  will  disqualify  a  parson  from 
registration. 

Section  Ba(3WDl  of  tl^e  Acft; 

Section  8a(3](D)  of  the  Act  disqualifleB  from  registra- 
tion persons  convicted  of  felonies  other  than  tha  type 


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specitiad  in  Sactlon  SaO) (D)  of  th*  Act  within  tan  yaars  of 
filing  a  ragistration  application,  as  wall  as  parson* 
convicted  o£  Sactlon  Sa(2)(D)  typa  f«Ionl«s  Mora  than  tan 
yaars  pracading  tha  tiling  ot   an  ^^licatlon. 

HFA  favors  a**ndlng  Sactlon  ea(3)(D}  to  includa  not 
only  situations  whara  a  parson  has  actually  baan  convlctad 
of  a  falony,  but  also  thosa  instancas  whara  a  parson  plaads 
guilty  to  such  offansa,  avan  though  not  roraally  convictad. 

In  August  19BB,  MPA  adoptad  tha  policy  of  initiating  a 
dlsgual ideation  action  undar  tha  "othar  good  causa"  provi- 
sion of  Section  8a(3)(K)  against  parsons  who  plaadad  guilty 
to  a  felony,  although  adjudication  was  withheld.  HFA 
Instituted  this  policy  Baecausa  it  detemined  that  a  person 
who  pleaded  guilty  to  a  felony  Bay  be  unfit  to  ba  reg- 
istered, regardlasB  of  trtiathar  or  not  ha  was  fonully 
convicted.   HFA  was  concerned  that  such  person's  treatnent 
under  the  Act  not  be  contingent  upon  the  vagaries  of  par- 
ticular atatas*  laws. 

The  proposed  aaandaant  to  Section  8a(3)(D)  will  codify 
NFA's  practice  of  Initiating  diwiualification  proceadlngs 
against  parsons  who  have  pleaded  guilty  to  a  falony  offense 
even  though  they  have  not  been  foraally  convicted.   HFA 
expects  that  the  proposed  amendment  will  have  tha  affect  of 
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NFA  also  BUpportB  tha  Committae'e  proposal  to  aliinlnBte 
the  t«n-year  limit  on  falony  convictions  othor  than  tha  typ* 
specifiad  in  Section  8a(2)  of  tha  Act.   Currently,  in 
appropriata  casas,  NPA  initiates  actions  against  parsons  who 
h«v«  baan  convicted  of  falonlas  othar  than  tha  type  speci- 
fied in  Section  ea(2)  mora  than  tan  years  ago,  under  the 
"other  good  causa"  provision  of  Section  8a(3) (M)  of  the  Act. 
HFA  agrees  with  the  Cammittee  that  a  person's  felony  convic- 
tion, ragardlesB  of  Its  age,  bears  directly  on  a  person's 
fitness  for  registration  and  therefore  favors  eliminating 
the  ten-year  limit  contained  in  Section  8a(3)(D). 

HFA  recognizes  that  the  presunptlon  of  unfitness 
arising  fro*  such  a  conviction  or  guilty  plea  may  well  be 
less  than  that  arising  from  a  mora  recant  conviction. 
Moreover,  it  nay  very  well  be  that  a  person  with  an  older 
felony  conviction  or  guilty  plea  «ay  be  able  to  present  more 
substantial  rehabilitation  evidence  than  someone  who  had 
pleaded  guilty  or  had  been  convicted  of  a  felony  >ore 
recently.  However,  it  Is  HFA's  view  that  these  factors 
relate  to  the  issue  of  what  weight  should  be  accorded  such 
conviction  or  guilty  plea,  not  irtiether  such  conviction  or 
guilty  plea  constitutes  a  disqualification  in  the  first 


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aaetlon  B»(3WB1  of  th«  Act 

Saction  Bb(3) (B)  of  th*  Act  disqualifies  troa  registra- 
tion persons  who  have  been  convicted  of  certain  serious 
■Isdenaanor  convictions  within  the  past  ten  years.   HFA 
supports  the  CoBBittea's  pro|^sal  to  asend  Section  8a(3)(B) 
by  elieinating  the  tan-yaar  tiee  liait  and  by  including 
instances  whara  a  parson  pleads  guilty  to  a  aisdeaeanor 
oCfanse,  although  not  foraally  convicted.  These  proposed 
aaandaents  parallel  thosa  suggested  under  Section  8a(3)(D) 
of  the  Act. 

The  proposed  changes  to  Section  8a(3) (E)  would  sarv*  to 
codify  NFA'b  practice  oC  initiating  cases  under  Section 
ea(3)(N)  of  the  Act,  against  persons  who,  although  not 
formally  convicted,  pleaded  guilty  to  serious  misdeBsanors 
and  against  persons  whose  serious  eladameanors  are  over  ten 
years  old.   nfA  expected  that  the  proposed  amendMsnts  will 
promote  uniformity  of  treatment  among  similarly  situated 
persons . 

NFA  also  supports  the  proposed  enendnents  to  Section 
Ba(3)(E)  which  add  to  the  list  of  serious  aisdeMeanora  those 
Involving  deception  of  customers,  moral  turpitude  and 
conduct  inconsistent  with  just  and  equitable  principles  of 
trade.  HFA  also  favors  supplementing  the  list  of  statutes 
currently  enumerated  In  Section  8a<3) (E)  to  Include  those 
involving  conspiracy,  tax  evasion  end  tax  fraud.   HFA  agrees 


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that  adding  these  klnda  of  aarlous  alBd«K«anors  to  Section 
8a (3)  will  significantly  atrengthen  tha  raach  of  that 
provision. 

sj.ctiBiL.8,a.ULCg)  Sit.  m«,.  Act 

Section  Ba(3)(a)  of  ths  Act  dlsqualiCies  from  ragistra- 
tion  a  parson  who  willfully  nakas  any  materially  false  or 
nisleading  statement  or  who  willfully  omits  to  state  any 
material  fact  in  such  person's  application,  in  any  report 
reguired  to  be  filed  with  the  Commission,  or  in  any  proceed- 
ing before  the  Comnission.   In  view  of  the  fact  that  HFA 
also  conducts  registration  disqualification  proceedings,  HFA 
agrees  that  it  is  appropriate  for  the  Comaittee  to  adopt 
amendments  to  Section  8a(3} (G)  of  the  Act  which  will  encom- 
pass willful  omissions  or  materially-  false  or  misleading 
statements  made  by  a  person  In  the  course  of  a  disgualiflca- 
tion  proceeding  conducted  by  HFA.  NFA  also  supports  the 
proposed  amendment  that  makes  it  clear  that  omissions  and 
false  and  misleading  statements  contained  in  updates  to  a 
person's  registration  application  will  constitute  a  dis- 
qualification from  registration. 

Section  ea(31 fHl  of  the  Act 

Section  8a(3)(H)  of  the  Act  disqualifies  from  registra- 
tion persons  who  have  pleaded  nolo  contendere  to  criminal 
charges  of  felonious  conduct,  or  who  have  been  convicted  in 


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a  stata  court  or  in  a  foraign  court  of  conduct  which  would 
constitute  a  talony  undar  federal  law  i£  th«  pff*n*a  has 
baan  conaittad  undar  fadaral  jurisdiction.   HFA  supports  tha 
proposed  aaendasnt  to  Section  8a(3}(H)  which  would  broaden 
this  provision  to  ancoapass  convictions  in  Dnitad  States 
■llitary  courts  of  ottensas  regarded  as  felonies  under 
federal  law. 

It  has  baan  HFA's  experience  that  United  States  aili- 
tary  courts.  Ilka  certain  state  and  foreign  courts,  do  not 
always  explicitly  distinguish  between  felony  and  ■isdameanor 
offenses.   Thus,  it  seees  appropriate  to  include  a  reference 
to  such  courts  in  Section  8a(3) (H)  of  the  Act. 

In  the  past,  NPA  has  initiated  under  the  "other  good 
cause"  provision  of  Section  8a(3)(H)  of  the  Act,  an  action 
against  a  person  who  was  convicted  in  a  United  States 
Military  court  of  an  offense  which  would  ba  considered  a 
felony  under  federal  law.   The  proposed  aaendnent  would 
codify  MPA's  practice  in  this  regard. 

Section  Ba(3KJ)  of  the  Act; 

Section  8a(3)(J)  of  the  Act  currently  disqualifies  froai 
registration  persons  who  are  subject  to  an  outstanding  order 
denying,  suspending,  or  expelling  such  parson  froa  Banber~ 
ship  in  a  contract  sarket,  a  registered  futures  association, 
orany  other  self -regulatory  organization  ("SBO"),  or 
barring  or  suspending  such  person  front  being  associated  with 


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any  uember  or  membars  of  cuch  contract  varket,  registered 
futures  association  or  SRO. 

HFA  favors  amending  Section  Ba(3) (J)  of  the  Act  to 
includ«  as  disqualifications  frou  registration  denials, 
bars,  suspensions  and  expulsions  from  foreign  regulatory 
organisations  which  the  Commission  has  recognized  as  having 
a  comparable  regulatory  program  to  that  of  the  Commission's. 
The  proposed  amendment  will  prevent  persons  who  have  been 
severely  sanctioned  by  foreign  regulatory  bodies  from 
obtaining  registration  under  the  Act. 

Section  9a[Jl(K)  ,of,.tafl_ftct 

Section  8a(3)(R)  Of  the  Act  disqualifies  from  registra- 
tion persons  who  have  been  found  by  any  court  of  competent 
jurisdiction  or  by  ariy  federal  or  state  agency  or  other 
governmental  body,  or  by  agreement  of  settlement  to  which 
any  federal  or  state  agency  is  a  party  to  have  violated  any 
statute,  rule,  regulation  or  order  thereunder  which  involves 
a  serious  offense  such  as  embezzlement,  theft,  extortion, 
fraud  and  the  like.   NFA  supports  amending  Section  8a(3) (K) 
of  the  Act  to  Include  other  serious  offenses  such  as  decep- 
tion of  custOMers  and  conduct  inconsistent  with  just  and 
equitable  principles  of  trade.   NFA  agrees  with  the  Commit- 
tee that  the  proposed  amendment  will  serve  to  tighten  the 
requirements  contained  in  Section  ea(3) (K) . 


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I  have  just  oiM  final  point  ragarding  r*glatratlon .   If 
Congraas  dacidas  to  raquira  tha  raglatration  oC  floor  tradara,  I 
can  aaaura  you  that  HFA  would  ba  capable  of  aaau>inq  that  pro- 
caaalng  function  If  raquastad  to  do  so. 

IV.       TEtaifcBKBTIHG   FRAUD 

No  job  Is  aora  iaportant  to  HFA  than  tha  pravantion  of 
d«c«ptlv«  sal«B  practicas  by  HFA  Mambars,  and  that  is  praciaaly 
whsrs  wa  hava  focusad  our  rulaaaklng  and  rula  anforcaaant 
afforts.  Tha  antira  futuras  industry  can  ba  justly  proud  that 
its  salas  praetica  ragulations  ara  aacond  to  nons  in  thalr 
coBprahenaivensBB  and  affectiveness. 

To  bagin  with,  thara's  tha  CFTC  ragulations  ragardinq 
risk  disclosures  for  both  futuras  and  options.   Tha  Cuturaa  risk 
disclosura  statamant  in  CFTC  Ragulatlon  1.55  dascribas  tha  risks 
of  futuras  trading  in  a  one-page  stataaant  written  in  plain 
language  that  would  scare  the  spots  off  a  leopard.  The  options 
risk  disclosure  is  equally  effective  and  thorough.  HFA's  "Know 
Vour  CustoDer"  rule  takes  those  risk  disclosures  one  step  further 
by  requiring  that  certain  custoaars  have  to  be  warned  that 
futures  trading  is  juat  too  risky  for  thea  and  that  they  do  not 
belong  in  these  markets.   On  top  of  all  of  that,  HFA  Conplianca 
Rules  not  only  bar  blgh-pressure  sales  practices  —  they  actually 
raquire  that  any  standardized  telephone  solicitation  which  even 
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equally  prominent  statement  of  the  risk  of  loss.   Considering  all 
of  these  rules,  together  with  all  of  the  other  anti-fraud  pro- 
visions of  the  Commodity  Exchange  Act,  CFTC  regulations,  exchange 
rules  and  NFA  rules,  I  am  not  aware  of  any  industry  selling  any 
proiSuot  anywhere  that  has  a  more  pervasive  network  of  customer 
protection  regulations. 

Furthermore,  those  regulations  are  being  aggressively 
enforced.   Comparing  NPA's  first  three  years  to  the  last  three 
years,  sales  practice  complaints  increased  from  12  to  66,  expul- 
sions from  12  to  39  and  fines  fron  just  over  $100,000  to  over 
31,000,000.  All  of  this  is  in  addition  to  the  numerous  sig- 
nificant sales  practice  cases  which  the  Commission  has  brought. 

Notwithstanding  all  of  the  rules  that  already  exist  and 
the  effective  enforcement  cf  those  rules,  NFA  feels  that  if  even 
one  customer  is  the  victim  of  a  deceptive  or  high-pressure  sales 
pitch  from  an  NFA  Member,  that  is  one  victim  too  many,  and  we 
would  welcome  any  legislation  which  would  help  combat  that  tiny 
percentage  of  our  membership  which  engages  in  this  type  of 
conduct.   Unfortunately,  we  have  serious  rasarvations  whether  the 
proposed  legislation  would  have  that  effect. 

Ho  rule  devised  by  «an  can  prevent  someone  fron  com- 
mitting fraud  if  that's  what  they  are  intent  upon  doing.  The 
proposed  rule  is  no  different.   It  can  ba  broken  just  ss  the 
existing  rules  can  be,  and  I  doubt  that  detecting  violations  of 


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such  a  rul*  would  be  any  aasiar  than  th«  nilas  that  ara  currantly 

Nhile  the  proposad  rule  Bay  not  aCCact  that  Cringa 
•laaant  of  our  buslnssa  which  usas  dacaptlva  aalaa  practicaa,  it 
could  well  be  unduly  burdansoBa  to  the  overwhelming  aajority  of 
our  Maabara  who  are  honeat,  legiti«ata  businasBBan.  IdentlCylng 
juat  which  "first-tiaa"  custoaars  ware  solicited  by  phone  could 
pose  substantial  prablana  in  the  real  world.  In  addition,  there 
■ay  be  sophisticated,  institutional  custoaers  whoae  trading  aay 
not  be  exclusively  hedga  trades  for  whoa  this  "protection"  would 
b«  both  unnacessary  and  potentially  harmful. 

If  there  was  «  way  to  narrow  the  focus  of  this  concept 
to  pinpoint  the  relative  handful  of  unscrupulous  firas  in  the 
industry,  NFA  could  support  the  proposal.   In  its  present  fora, 
however,  we  have  reservations  as  to  trtiether  its  doubtful  benefits 
outweigh  Its  substantial  burdens. 

V.    PUBLIC  REPRESEWTATIOH  QN  THE  BOARD 

With  respect  to  public  representation  on  our  Board  of 
Directors,  NFA  has  always  recognized  the  Invaluable  perspective 
which  public  representatives  bring  to  the  regulatory  issues  HFA 
deals  with.  Prom  our  vary  inception,  our  Articles  of  Incorpora- 
tion have  always  provided  for  public  representatives  on  our 
Board.   Three  of  the  42  persons  on  our  Board  are  elected  as 


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public  represantativas.   Their  varl«d  backgrounds  bring  a  wealth 
of  industry,  legislative  and  academic  perspectives  to  our  Board. 

But  those  public  representatives  are  not  the  only 
outside  voices  on  NFA's  Board  of  Directors,   Covmercial  firms  and 
connarcial  banking  Institution*  are  not  ragulatad  by  HFA  and  yet 
we  hav«  always  r«coqniz«d  that  these  Important  users  of  the 
futures  sarkets  could  bring  valuable  insights  to  our  Board. 
Therefore,  from  our  very  Inception,  our  Articlss  of  Incorporation 
have  provided  five  additional  seats  on  our  Board  for  those  two 
categories,  with  two  seats  allotted  to  commercial  banks  and  three 
seats  provided  for  commarcial  firms,   in  all,  eight  of  the  42 
seats  on  our  Board,  or  roughly  19t,  are  set  aside  for  persons  who 
are  not  registered  in  any  capacity  under  the  Act  and  who  are  not 
regulated  by  HFA. 

Th«  languaga  of  the  proposed  amendment  to  Section  17(b) 
of  the  Act  would  require  that  at  least  20t  of  our  Board  consist 
of  "outside  members."  I  assuns  that  the  Conmittas's  intent  is 
that  the  phrasa  "outside  members"  would  include  both  public 
representatives  and  commercial  bank  and  comnarclal  firm  repre- 
sentatives since  they  are  all  "outside"  H?A's  regulatory  juris- 
diction.  If  my  assumption  is  correct,  MPA  is  already  in  substan- 
tial conplianca  with  the  proposal. 


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VI. 


Tba  iaau*  of  qualification  atandards  to  s«rv*  on  HFA'a 
Board  of  Dlractor*  and  disciplinary  coMiittaaa  ia  on*  vhich  our 
Exacutlv*  Coiaitta*  la  currently  conaldarlng.   Wa  hava  hiatar- 
ically  b«an  blaasad  at  NFA  with  a  Board  of  Olractors  and  dia- 
ciplinary  connittaas  which  hav*  baan  drawn  froa  avonq  tha  «aat 
raapactad  laadars  in  tha  industry-  Ha  cartalnly  support  any 
proposal  which  will  ansur*  that  that  tradition  contlnuas. 

It  May  well  ba  appropriata  to  dlaqualify  froa  Board  or 
canmitt**  nambarshlp  parsons  who  hava  B>««n  found  to  hav*  coa- 
mlttod  "a  major  rula  violation."  Ha  would  caution  the  Covusittea, 
howaver,  that  in  d*t*rwining  what  constitutss  a  "aajor  rul* 
violation,"  tha  focus  Must  b*  not  on  tha  rul*  but  on  th*  viola- 
tion.  All  HFA  conpliance  rules  ara  deaignad  in  otia  way  or 
another  to  protect  the  public.   A  violation  of  any  of  those  rules 
could  so  undernine  one's  confidenc*  in  a  person's  judgnant  that 
h*  should  b*  disquallfi*d  from  Board  membership.   At  the  saue 
time,  a  violation  of  any  of  those  rules  may  be  technical  in 
nature.   The  best  way  to  deteralne  a  "Major  rule  violation"  Is  to 
focus  not  on  the  rule  that  was  violated  but  on  the  sanction  that 
was  iMposed.   If  that  reflects  the  Committee's  intent,  we  cer- 
tainly support  the  proposed  amendment. 


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VII.    ETpiCS  TRATHIHfi 

NFA  also  agrae*  with  tha  ConnittM  on  the  importance  of 
ensuring  that  registranta  receive  adequate  training  concerning 
their  ethical  responsibilities  to  their  custoaers.   To  that  end, 
NPA  has  already  oade  significant  changes  to  the  content  and 
format  of  the  National  Commoditiaa  Futures  Examination.   With 
very  limited  axcaptions,  NFA  require*  all  applicants  for  AP 
registration  to  take  and  pass  this  proficiency  examination.  The 
content  of  the  axam  has  been  changed  over  tha  laat  few  years  to 
put  greater  emphasia  on  testing  the  applicant's  Icnowledge  of 
regulatory  requiraments  as  wall  as  market  knowledge.   The  gues- 
tions  on  regulatory  requirements  center  on  those  rules  concerning 
fair  dealings  with  customers. 

HPA's  Board  took  this  process  one  step  further  in  1987 
when  it  approved  a  fundamental  change  In  the  way  that  the  exam  is 
graded.  For  grading  purposes,  the  exam  is  divided  into  two  parts 
—  market  knowledge  and  knowledge  of  regulatory  requirements. 
Tha  two  sections  are  graded  separately  and  an  applicant  must  pass 
both  sections  of  the  exam  in  order  to  become  registered. 

The  changea  outlined  above  have  already  improved  the 
Industry's  attention  to  ethics  training,  but  we  fully  support  any 
proposed  amendments  which  will  focus  even  greater  attention  on 
this  critical  area.   However,  given  the  current  focus  of  the 
proficiency  exam  on  ethical  issues,  we  question  the  efficiency  of 


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r«quiriiK[  newly  rttgist«r*d  KPm  to  tak«  an  ctlilcs  r*fr««h«r  cours* 
within  six  Bonths  of  passing  th«  cxaa  and  bccoBlng  rcgistarad. 

VIII.        BMDTHOBIZATIOH    PCTIOD 

NFA  alao  strongly  supports  tha  proposal  to  aaka  tha 
CFTC  a  parsanant  a^ancy.  Tbla  proposal  would  ansura  continuing 
congrassional  ovarslght  of  tha  CFTC  but  would  allalnata  currant 
uncartaintlas  about  tha  agancy's  axlstanc*  and  could  sarva  to 
Incraaaa  Ui«  CoMilsslon's  rasourcas  to  affactlvaly  ragulata  tha 
tuturas  Barkats.  In  our  vlaw,  such  a  proposal  Is  both  walcoaa 
and  long  ovardua. 


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APPEHDIX  TO 


TESTIMONY  OF  ROBERT  K.  HILMOUTH 

PRESIDENT 
NATIONAL  FUTURES  ASSOCIATION 


BEFORE  THE  HOUSE  AGRICULTURE  SUBCOHHITTEE 

H  CONSERVATION,  CREDIT,  AND  RURAL  DEVELOPMENT 

RE:      H.R.    2869 


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NATMMUL  nmHm  ASSOCUTKM 

A  coNranima  commitmdit  to  excillehce: 

A  MPOIIT  AS  or  KCIMBni  U,  IMS 
DUCVnVE  SUMMARY 


I.  INTROOUCnON 

The  veiy  concept  of  Mir-regulatlon  Is  now  under  a  cloiK)  of  suspicion.  Recent  preu  raportf 
concerning  Investlgstlons  of  an  unspecined  number  of  floor  brokers  and  floor  traders  have 
caused  some  to  questton  whelt>et  salf-rafulaUon  can  be  trusted,  even  with  dingant 
oversight  by  the  Commodity  RAures  Trading  Commission.  The  ultimate  question  ts 
whether  Indus^  professionals  have  demonstrated  the  ability  end  the  wllllngnaaa  to 
protect  the  public  by  policing  themselves.  To  answer  this  question,  Congress  needs  not 
speculation  or  rumor  but  cold,  hard  facts.  This  report  prwldes  those  tacts  arKl  presents 
overwhelming  evidence  that  se/^egulation  is  tough  regulation. 

The  list  of  responsibilities  which  Congress  laid  out  fOr  NFA  was  both  clear  and  ambitious. 
NFA  was  never  intended  to  duplicate  the  elTorU  Of  either  the  Commission  or  the 
exchanges,  and  It  has  not  done  so.  NFA's  regulatory  efforts  have  focused  iwt  on  trading 
floor  activity  but  on  all  other  aspects  of  Its  Members'  dealings  with  the  public.  NFA's 

primary  responsibilities  Include: 


■  conducting  investigations  and  audits  to  delect  violations  of  those  rules: 

■  taking  disciplinary  action  to  punish  and  deter  such  violations; 

■  preventing  unethical  flmis  ftom  entering  or  remaining  In  the  irxJustiy  by  per- 
forming the  registration  furvnion  on  behalf  of  the  Commission; 

■  prever)tirv  fraud  by  educating  the  public  concerning  the  rislts  and  opportuni- 
ties in  the  futures  maritets  so  that  customers  can  make  fully  infomied  invest- 
ment decisions;  arxl 

■  providing  customers  with  an  arbitratkm  fbruin  which  olTefs  a  fair,  prompt  and 
inexpensive  means  of  resolving  futures-related  disputes. 

Those  are  the  jobs  which  Congress  and  the  Industry  have  assigned  to  NFA.  In  each  of  these 
areas  and  the  others  discussed  In  this  report.  NFA's  performance  shows  thet  at  NFA  self- 
regulation  rtot  only  works  but  excels. 

II.  COMPUANCE  RELATED  MATTERS 

The  fonnuia  for  effective  5elf'regulatk>n  at  NFA  is  no  real  mystery.  It  irT/ok«s  three  basic 
components  —  strong  mies,  thorough  investigations  and  tough  enforcement  actkms.  m 
the  past  three  years,  NFA's  continuing  commitment  to  excelleiKe  has  been  evident  In  all 
ttvee  of  these  critical  areas. 


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subjects  ranglngfrom  telemafkettngfraud  and  deceptive  advertising  to  foreign  futures  and 
options: 

■  Complksr>ce  Rule  2-29  bars  the  use  of  high-pressure  sales  practtoes  and  sets 
stria  content  requirements  for  ell  telephone  solicitations  and  advertising 
materials  used  by  NFA  Members; 

■  Compliance  Rule  2-30  sets  an  Industrywide  Kr>ow  Your  Customer  standard  and 
provides  that  certain  customers  must  be  told  that  ftjtures  trading  Is  simply  too 
risky  for  them  In  light  of  their  overall  financial  conditkin; 

■  NFA 's  Guideline  for  the  Disclosure  by  FCMs  and  IBs  of  Costs  Associated  with 
Futures  Transactions  ensures  that  customers  of  NFA  Members  are  provided 
with  sufTiclent  information  about  the  costs  of  futures  trading  to  make  an 
informed  decision  artd  to  compare  the  fees  charged  by  different  firms: 


■  NFA  Compllartce  Rules  and  Bylaws  were  amended  to  exterHJ  NFA's  customer 
protection  rules  to  the  activities  of  NFA  Members  regarding  foreign  futures  and 
option  transactions:  and 

■  NFA's  pronciency  testing  program  was  Improved  with  Increased  emphasis  on 
the  industry's  ethical  and  regulatory  requirements. 

The  toughest  njles  In  the  world,  however,  will  not  help  protect  custorr)ers  If  violations  can 
routinely  go  undetected.  NFA  has  added  to  its  standard  auditir^  and  investigative 
procedures  a  new  program  using  covert  Investigative  techniques  to  learn  firsthand  what 
NFA  Membersare  telling  prospective  customers  over  the  telephone.  Using  phone  numbers 
with  out^of-state  area  codes  and  coiresponding  mailing  addresses,  NFA  staff  members 
have  posed  as  prospective  customers  to  receive  telephone  50lk:ltatlons  directly  from 
Members.  This  highly  successful  program  has  been  expanded  by  enlisting  the  assistance 
of  state  securities  regulators  from  around  the  country  and  has  produced  a  number  of 
successful  disclpllrtary  actions. 

The  adoption  of  these  new  njles  and  Investigative  programs  has  led  to  dramatic  Increases 
In  all  aspects  of  NFA's  enforcement  program.  The  overall  number  of  disciplinary  proceed- 
ings Initiated  t^  NFA's  Regional  Business  Conduct  Committees  ballooned  fiam  51  in 
NFA's  first  three  years  to  119  In  the  last  three  years.  Moreover,  the  lion's  share  of  that 
Increase  comes  from  cases  Involving  telemarketing  fraud  or  other  forms  of  deception  of 
customers. 


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The  bottom  line,  of  course,  is  not  how  many  Complaints  were  Issued  but  what  types  of 
sanctkins  were  Imposed.  Once  again.  tt>e  numbers  tell  the  story.  The  most  severe 
sanction  which  NFA  can  Impose  Is  expulsion  from  membership  slr^ce  that  effectively  baa 
the  f\nr\  or  individual  from  the  Industry.  In  Its  first  three  years.  NFA  expelled  12  Members 
through  disclplinaiy  proceedings  compared  with  15  expulsions  In  1987  elone  and  31  more 


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bers over  the  last  three  years.  In  NFA's  first  three  years  combtned.  Business  Conduct 
Committees  Imposed  s  total  of  SiOS.OOO  In  fines,  a  figure  which  was  surpassed  In  each 
of  the  last  three  years.  Fines  In  1986  totalled  $157,000,  almost  doubled  In  1987  to  Over 
S2d3,lX>0  and  more  than  doubled  In  1988  to  over  S719.000. 


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III.  REOISTRATION  AND  MEMBERSHIP 

One  of  the  best  ways  to  protect  the  public  from  unscrupulous  firms  and  Individuals  Is  to 
keep  those  people  out  of  the  Industry  in  the  Tirst  place.  That  Is  the  Job  that  NFA  has  been 
handling  since  October  l,  1985,  when  It  assumed  responsibility  for  registration  denial  aixl 
revocation  proceedings  for  all  categories  of  registrants  except  floor  brokers,  leverage 
transaction  merchants  and  their  associated  persons.  Just  as  with  enforcement  matters^ 
effectively  screening  out  unethical  individuals  arvl  firms  In  the  registration  process 
requires  three  basic  components:  specific  legal  criteria  to  detemilne  registration  fitness, 
a  reliable  screening  process  to  identic  the  applicants  who  do  not  meet  those  criteria  arMl 
effective  proceedings  to  bar  those  persons  from  the  Industry. 

The  legal  criteria  used  by  NFA  are  those  supplied  biy  Congress.  In  1982,  Congress 
amended  the  Aa  tc  establish  a  two-tier  system  of  dlsqualiftcations  from  registration.  The 
more  egregious  disquallTicatlons,  such  as  prior  revocations  and  certain  ^pes  of  feiony 
convictions,  are  set  forth  In  Se^nion  8a(r)  of  the  Act  while  Section  8a(3}  sets  forth  less 
serious  disqualificattons.  such  as  certain  misdemeanor  and  felony  convictions  and 


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actions  by  selT-regulatory  bodies.  Most  of  these  statutory  disqualifications  provide  very 
specFfic  guidance.  The  needed  fiexIbilRy  comes  from  Seclkm  Ba(3)(M)  of  the  Act  which 
provides  that  registration  ma/  be  denied  or  revoked  for  'ether  good  cause.'  Over  the  last 
three  yesrs,  NFA's  Membership  Committee  has  appiied  the  'other  good  cause'  standard 
and  the  other  statutory  disqualifications  on  a  case^-case  basis  and  has  developed  a 
botly  of  case  law  which  has  tightened  and  Improved  the  registration  screening  function. 

Though  the  legal  criteria  set  forth  In  the  Act  set  parameters  forjudging  registration  fitness, 
it  is  NFA's  application  review  process  which  applies  those  criteria  to  the  real  wond.  All 
registration  applications  processed  by  NFA  are  subject  to  close  scrutiny  to  determine 
whether  the  standards  set  by  Congress  have  been  met.  Each  application  contains  a  series 
of  questions  which  have  been  specincaiiy  designed  to  track  the  statutory  disquaiiHcstions 
set  out  in  the  Act.  Any  'yes'  answer  to  tr>ose  questions  will  automatically  bar  the  applicant 
from  receiving  a  teniporary  license  and  will  trigger  an  intensive  review  and  possible  denial 
proceedingbyNFA.  Of  course,  with  regard  to  critical  Information  such  as  en  applk:ant's 
disciplinary  history,  NFA  does  not  rely  solely  on  the  appikiant's  answers.  NFA  seeks 
independent  corroboration  of  the  disciplinary  history  information  on  each  application  by 
conducting  an  FBI  fingerprint  check  and  a  review  of  CFTC  and  SEC  disciplinary  records,  in 
addition,  any  material  derogatory  infonnation. received  through  NFA  audits  or  investiga- 
tions, from  discharge  notk:es  from  past  employers  or  from  any  other  source  will  be 
reviewed  and,  if  appropriate,  a  denial  proceeding  will  be  initiated.  Less  critical  information, 
such  as  employment  and  educational  history  data,  must  be  verified  by  the  applicant's 
sponsor.  The  sponsor  must,  at  the  risk  of  its  own  registration,  sign  a  sworn  statement  that 
It  has  done  so.  NFA  has  recently  taken  steps  to  further  supplement  the  sponsor's 
veriTication  with  its  own  spot-check  of  educational  and  employment  inforrttation  on 
randomly  selected  applications. 

The  ultimate  proof  of  the  thoroughness  of  the  screening  process  is  the  number  of  denial 
or  revocation  proceedings  whfch  have  been  Initiated,  in  the  last  three  years,  NFA  has  taken 
action  in  almost  200  cases  to  deny  or  revoke  registrations.  Furthennore,  the  84  cases 
brou^  in  198S  represent  a  50%  increase  over  the  previous  year's  total. 

Not  surprisingly,  a  disproportionate  share  of  these  cases  Involve  a  relative  handful  of 
sponsoring  firms,  in  fact,  just  six  sponsoring  firms,  .017%  of  NFA's  membership,  have 
been  involved  in  23%  of  the  registration  actions  NFA  has  initiated.  Frve  of  those  sixfinns 
have  already  been  the  subject  of  NFA  disciplinary  actions,  three  are  now  out  of  business 
and  barred  from  the  industry  and  two  have  been  subject  to  substantial  fines. 


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TOTAL  NUMBER  OF  FITNESS  ACTIONS  INITIATED  BY  NFA 
From  Jwniary  1. 1986  through  DMwnbw  31, 1988 

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In  processing  the  thousands  of  applications  wftk^  come  In  each  year.  It  Is  Just  as  Important 
to  process  promptly  the  99%  of  the  applicants  who  are  qualified  as  It  Is  to  screen  out  the 
1%  wtio  are  not.  NFA  has  scored  well  on  both  counts.  The  processing  time  required  to  pant 
temporary  licenses  has  steadily  been  reduced  from  an  average  of  8.7  days  in  1986  to  an 
average  of  4.4  days  In  1988.  Furthermore,  this  50%  reduction  In  processing  time  was 
achieved  at  the  same  time  that  there  was  a  25%  reduction  In  the  Registration  Depart- 
ment's staff,  largely  as  the  result  of  refinements  that  have  been  made  to  NFA's  computer 
programs  and  capablllbes. 

IV.  ARBITRATION 

Congress  has  always  recognized  the  value  of  arbitration  as  a  means  of  resoMng  customer 
disputes  in  the  futures  Industry.  In  feet,  in  1974,  when  Congress  first  passed  the  enabling 
legislation  which  led  to  the  creation  of  NFA,  it  specifically  required  any  registered  futures 
association  to  provide  an  arbitration  program  or  an  equivalent  program  as  a  condition  of 
its  registration. 

In  Its  first  three  years,  NFA  built  from  scratch  an  arbitration  prc^am  which  provides 
custcmers  In  the  futures  lr>dustry  with  precisely  what  Congress  intended  —  an  expeditious 
forum  forthe  fair  resolution  of  disputes.  Rules  were  developed,  procedures  Implemented 
and  a  nationwide  pool  or  volunteer  arbitrators  was  assembled. 


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In  the  last  three  years,  NFA  has  built  on  that  foundation  to  continue  to  provide  e  high  quality 
and  inexpensive  alternative  to  litigation.  The  dramatic  growth  of  NFA's  arbitration  program 
Is  the  clearest  sign  of  its  qualRy  and  Its  acceptance  by  the  Investing  public  it  is  designed 
to  serve.  In  Its  first  three  years,  the  program  received  approximately  300  Demands  for 
arbitration  from  customers.  In  the  last  three  years,  that  number  more  than  tripled  with 
almost  1.000  Demands  being  filed,  in  fact,  1988  alone  saw  a  30%  Increase  In  filings  over 
the  previous  year  with  almost  400  Demands  filed.  With  the  Increase  01  cases  filed  there 
has  been  a  corresponding  increase  In  cases  which  have  been  concluded. 

DEMANDS  AND  COMPLETED  CASES 
By  Operating  Year 


□   Cases  closed  tnrou(n  Setllement 
■   Oamanos 


1987  1988 

PerXx)  4/1/83  —  S/30/83 


With  such  exponential  growth,  of  course,  comes  a  great  challenge  —  the  challenge  to 
maintain  all  of  the  advantages  arbitration  is  Intended  to  provide.  NFA  has  met  that 
challenge.  In  its  last  three  years,  the  arbitration  program  at  NFA  has  continued: 

■     to  provide  an  inexpensive  altematlve  to  litigation.  Despite  the  growth  of  the 
program,  customer  filing  costs  have  remained  modest. 


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■  to  provide  a  eonvwiltnt  forum  for  customars.  UFA  hat  mstntslnad  a  pool  of 
vDkirftaar  arbKrstors  In  48  states  and  contlrKWS  to  routkwly  pravUe  customars 
with  hearings  m  locations  corrMnlant  to  the  customers. 

■  to  provkte  an  informal  program.  NFA's  mtes  and  procedtres  are  designed  to 
ba  simple  enough  that  any  customer  can  easily  represent  himsatf  If  he  chooses 
to  without  becoming  lost  In  a  maze  of  tegellstlc  maneuvering. 

Most  Important  of  all,  NFA  has  continued  to  provide  a  fair  forum  for  the  resolution  of 
disputes.  The  statistics  on  recovery  of  fiirtds  by  customers  through  NFA's  arbitration 
program  emphatically  ret>ut  any  contention  that  customers  do  not  get  e  fair  and  impartial 
hearing. 

NFA  has  also  resportdeO  to  the  challenge  of  graoitn  by  refining  Its  niias,  slmplHying  Its 
procedures,  expending  Its  Jurisdiction  end  computerizing  Its  dociteting  system. 

V.  CONSUIMER  EDUCATION  AND  ASSISTANCE 

NFA  recognizes  that  the  best  protection  against  investment  freud  Is  a  welt  Informed 
consumer  and  has,  Oterefore,  eiways  made  consumer  education  one  of  Its  most  Impor- 
tent  priorities.  Tlvoughout  the  last  three  years.  NFA  has  continued  to  spreed  Its  message 
of  consumer  awareness  through  every  available  medium  —  by  radio,  television,  fllm, 
seminars,  printed  materials  and  direct  contact  with  members  of  the  public. 

That  direct  contact  with  the  public  occurs  hundreds  of  times  each  week  with  the  use  of 
NFA's  toll^ea  number.  The  highly  trained  staff  in  NFA's  Information  Center  handled  over 
125,000  calls  In  1988  alone,  many  from  customers  with  questions  about  individuals  or 
flmis  with  whom  they  were  considering  doing  business  or  with  requests  for  NFA 
educatkirMl  brochures.  But  the  telephone  Is  not  the  only  way  NFA  reaches  out  and  touches 
the  public.  NFA  has  continued  to  publish  and  distribute  e  wide  variety  of  brochures 
concerning  the  futures  Irtdustiy  and  the  steps  which  customers  cen  take  to  ertsure  that 
their  Invesment  decisions  are  based  on  full  and  accurate  mfbrmatlon.  NFA  representa- 
tives have  also  continued  to  appear  frequemiy  on  various  radio  and  televisksn  programs 
focusing  on  custonwr  protection  and  the  futures  Industry.  In  1989,  NFA  took  this  practice 
one  step  further  and  produced  its  owni4'minute  film  entitled  FOrthelm&stor'sPmtactlon. 
The  film  provides  basic  Informatkx)  on  how  the  ftrtures  Industry  functions  end  describes 
the  services  which  NFA  offers  to  the  public.  In  all  of  mese  educational  activities,  NFA  works 
closely  with  other  groups  end  agencies  such  as  the  American  Council  on  Consumer 
Interests,  the  National  Association  of  Consumer  Agency  Administrators,  the  American  As- 
sociatk)n  of  Retired  Persons  and  the  U.S.  OfRce  of  Consumer  Affairs. 

VI,  OTHER  CUSTOMER  PROTECTION  SERVICES 

Though  the  customer  services  and  programs  discussed  above  are  NFA's  prlmaiy  raspon- 
sibiilties,  they  are  certainly  not  Its  only  ones.  Repeatedly  over  the  past  three  years,  NFA 
has  been  called  upon  to  take  on  additional  responsibilities,  and  each  time  NFA  has 
answered  the  can.  These  additional  responsibilities  end  projects  are  detailed  In  this  report 


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and  include  the  following  activities: 

■  NFA  has  saved  customers  who  were  InvoKied  in  a  class  action  suit  against  a 
rirm  whicn  had  previously  been  expelled  from  NFA  tens  of  thousands  of  dollars 
by  serving  as  a  court-appointed  administrator  of  a  $5.3  million  settlement 
fund.  NFA  was  requested  to  administer  the  fund  by  the  court  and  by  the  parties 
end  agreed  to  do  so  since  by  recovering  only  Its  out-of-pocket  expenses  NFA 
could  preserve  more  of  the  settlement  furtd  for  the  customers  Involved: 

■  At  the  Commission's  request.  NFA  performed  a  comprehensive  study  of  the 
Issue  of  FCM  insolvencies,  the  protective  measures  already  in  place  to  guard 
against  them  and  the  feasibll%  of  various  additional  protective  end  responsive 
mechanisnw: 

■  NFA  has  continuously  worked  closely  with  federal  and  state  law  enforcement 
and  regulatory  ofTicisls  to  assist  In  any  way  possible  with  any  futures-related 
Investigations.  For  example,  NFA  meets  on  a  quarterly  basis  with  representa- 
tives of  the  FBI  and  the  Postal  inspector's  Office  to  review  NFA  disciplinary 
actions  Involving  potential  criminal  violations.  NFA's  cooperation  has  resulted 
In  a  number  of  successful  Investigations  arKl  prosecutions: 

■  NFA  has  been  an  active  participant  in  the  Justice  Department's  Securities  and 
Commodities  Fraud  working  Group.  This  group  consists  of  federal  and  state 
prosecutors  and  regulators  along  with  self-regulators  from  the  securities  and 
futures  industries.  The  group  meets  quarterly  to  discuss  issues  invoMng 
techniques  arxj  regulatory  coordination;  and 

■  At  the  request  of  Congress,  NFA  assisted  the  Commission  In  conducting  a 
survey  regarding  the  leverage  Industry  and  the  possible  consequences  of 
lifting  the  cun'ent  ntoratoria  on  firms  entering  that  business. 

NFA  performed  each  of  these  tasks  without  In  any  way  diminishing  its  other  ongoing 
customs  protection  programs.  Furthermore,  while  Increasing  the  scope  and  effectiveness 
of  its  regulatory  activities  over  the  last  three  years,  NFA  has  acbjally  reduced  the  cost  paid 
for  NFA  services  by  the  trading  pubtk:  which  it  serves.  The  NFA  assessment  fees  for  CxXh 
futures  and  options  trades  have  steadily  decreased  from  33t  for  futures  and  20t  for 
options  when  NFA  began  operations  to  a  projected  level  of  20t  for  futures  artd  124  for 
options  effective  July  1. 1989. 

VII.  CONCLUSION 

A  periodic  review  by  Congress  of  the  effectiveness  of  the  concept  of  setf-regulaiion  in  the 
futures  Industry  is  both  necessary  and  welcome.  Ultimately,  such  a  review  con  only  berwftt 
the  industry,  its  regulators  and,  most  importantly,  the  publk:  we  are  all  trying  to  serve.  To 
be  effective,  that  inquiry  must  focus  on  documented  facts.  NFA  strongly  believes  that  the 
documented  facts  concerning  Its  record  of  accomplishment  throughout  Its  history  have 
vindicated  the  confidence  that  Congress,  the  Commission  and  the  industry  have  placed 


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Supplemental  Submission 
Before  the  Conservation,  Credit  and 
Rural  Development  Subcommittee  of  the 
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I^provad  Narlcat  Enhancaaanta 

R.R.    2B69 

Conclusion 

J^pondix  1;  Foraign  Coapati-tlon  Tablaa 

J^pwidix  3i  Brokar  Trading    (CFTC  Subaiaaiona) 

J^tpandix  3:  1987  and  19S8  Dlaclplinary  Action  Svuoaary 

i^tpandix  4:  H.R.   2S<9 


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Tha  Board  of  Trada  of  tha  City  of  Chicago  is  tha  world's 
oldaat  and  largast  futuraa  axchanga,  not  only  because  OBOT  sarli 
ara  tha  Boat  liquid  cost-eff  Iciant  aarkaci  in  tha  vorld,  but  also 
bacauaa  of  tha  Exchanga's  comiiitt>ant  to  tha  highest  degra*  of 
aarkat  intaqrity.   Professional  aarkat  iiaer  confldenc*  In  both  the 
intagrity  and  afficiancy  at   CBOT  >arkata  ia  bast  daaonstratad  by 
tha  racord  voluaa  which  tha  Sxchanga  hac  axparlancad  aaeh  ysai  Cor 
tha  laat  dacada. 

Tha  Exchange  doaa  not  nov  condona,  and  navar  ha>  condoned, 
trading  abuaaa  of  any  kind.   Poundad  on  tlia  concept  oC  seLf- 
ragulation,  the  Exchange  has  conaistantly  policed  and  disciplined 
its  ovn  ■embers.   Ifhen  floor  trading  abusaa  are  detected  and 
proven,  t:hi>  Exoh.inqe  has  always  sanctioned  violators 
appropr i.i'i^ly   including  rrie  Imposition  of  suspensions  finaa  and 
•xpulaione.   Tha  Exchanga's  commicnent  to  preaarvlng  the  utvoat 
a«r)cet  integrity  ia  undlainiahad  today. 

Tha  cornatatona  of  aarkat  Integrity  ia  aaabarshlp  integrity. 
The  Board  of  Trade  haa  always  maintained  the  highest  standards  Of 
aamber  qualification.   Aa  United  states  Attorney  Anton  Valukus 
recently  aeaartad,  "tha  best  experts  in  the  world  concerning 
trading  practicae  are  tha  aambara  of  tha  Board  of  Trade." 

Additionally,  tha  Departsent  of  Investigations  (  Audit's 
("OIA")  use  of  the  Computerized  Trade  Reconstruction  system 
("Cnt")  is  a  vital  aaana  of  detecting  rule  violations  thereby 
Insuring  market  integrity   CTTR  is  universally  acknowledged  to  ba 
tha  bast  audit  trail  in  any  of  tha  world's  financial 
■arkatplacas .  slailarly,  CTR-FLUS,  the  Exchange's  surveillance 
ayatem,  is  an  unaurpaased  system  foi  the  detection  of  potential 
■arkat  abuaaa.   Indeed,  the  CTR-FLUS  system  highlighted  as  a 
potential  abuse  the  trading  activity  of  an  apparent  P&I  agent 
trading  as  a  member  at  tha  exchange,  presumably  pursuant  to  a 
federal  investigation.   As  U.S.  Attorney  Valukus  has  acknowledged, 
tha  Board  of  Trade  haa  ■■ . . .  tha  raaourcas  to  identify  trading 
practices  in  which  fraud  has  occurred." 

Regardless  of  this  unparalleled  record  of  success,  tha 
Exchange  has  consistently  recognised  that  the  process  of  iaproving 
its  aarkats  and  surveillance  systems  la  ore  of  constant 
evolution,   an  an  ongoing  basis,  the  Exchange  exaainea  ita  aarkat 
■achanisms  and  surveillance  techniques  to  insure  that  it  remains 
the  world  leader  in  this  regard.   This  self  examination  process 
has  intensified  recently  in  tha  wake  of  tha  sensationalized  pvasa 
reports  of  P6I  and  United  States  Attorney  investigations  into 
alleged  trading  floor  abuses  at  tha  Chicago  Harcantlla  Exchange 
and  tha  Board  of  Trade. 


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IQiil*  no  conf  iroation  of  any  trading  abuses  has  yet  been 
oftarad,  no  indictoenCS  isauad,  and  no  convictions  obtained,  tiM 
Ckchanqa  has  navertheless  racognlxed  that  continUBd  public 
confidence  in  the  narlcetplace  roqulraa  an  intensive  review  of 
market  nechanisma  as  well  as  the  •urvaillanca  and  disciplinary 
proceasea.   For  the  paat  several  aonths,  special  exchange 
coamltteea  have  engaged  in  detailed  reviaws  and  exasinations  of 
the  Exchange's  market  structure  and  enforcement  mechonisna.   Those 
deliberations  have  resulted  in  reports  to  the  Board  of  Directors. 
The  Board,  in  turn,  has  approved  (not  merely  proposed)  numerous 
revisions  in  our  sarket  aaclianisms  and  enforcement  procedures. 
Thosa  Borket  enhancements  «re  summariEad  below. 

On  July  12,  1989,  Representatives  English,  Coleman  and  Penny 
introduced  H.R.  2869,  Che  Commodity  Futures  Improvements  Act  of 
1989.   The  proposed  legislation  would  make  sweeping  changes  to 
several  vital  provisions  of  the  Commodity  Exchange  Act  ("CEA") ■ 
The  Exchange  supports  the  stated  purposes  of  the  bill  to  restrict 
potential  abusive  practices  and  reinforce  devslopnent  of  exchange 
audit  trails.   However,  we  are  greatly  concerned  that  in  critical 
areas  of  the  bill  the  precise  methodology  proposed  to  achieve 
those  common  objectives  may,  at  a  minimum,  render  our  domestic 
futures  industry  uncompetitive  with  ever  increasing  foreign 
markets  and  potentially  destroy  market  liquidity.   The  proposals 
regarding  dual  trading  by  floor  brokers  and  the  requisite  audit 
trail  requirements  are  particularly  crucial  and  require  a  modified 
approach. 

Broker  Trading  fPual  Tradinal 

Permitting  floor  brokara  In  tha  futures  industry  to  trade  for 
their  own  account  vhlle  also  eitecuting  customer  orders  recently 
has  come  into  question.   Despite  the  fact  that  there  have  baen  no 
indications  that  any  federal  investigation  is  concerned  with  any 
aspect  of  broker  trading,  and  despite  tha  fact  that  the  CTR-PLUS 
system  is  specifically  programmed  to  detect  (inlet  alifl)  any 
broker  trading  ahead  of  a  customer's  order,  a  few  have  questioned 
trtiattwr  this  practice  is  In  tha  bast  interast  of  the  marketplace. 

First,  broker  trading  is  not  uniqu*  to  futures  aarkats. 
Trading  for  one's  own  account  while  handling  custoMar  orders  is  a 
common  practice  in  all  financial  ■arkata;  spacialista  and 
securities  firms  universally  trad*  for  their  own  account  while 
executing  customer  orders. 

Second,  Congress,  the  CFTC  and  the  futures  industry  have 
studied  broker  trading  aany  timas  in  the  past  decades.   In  each 
instance,  the  results  overwhelmingly  indicate  that  the  ability  of 
floor  brokers  to  provide  additional  liquidity  to  the  aarkat  by 
trading  for  their  personal  accounts  Is  a  valuable  and  necessary 


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tl)«  >artc«tplaca.      pnllvlnary  Bitchutg*  data  IndlcatM  that  broker 
trading  providas   froN  35-10%  of   futuraa  aarkat   liquidity  ac  tba 
ceOT.      Tha  Exchange  atrongly  ballavea  that  any  potantial   abuaas  of 
dual   trading  can  ba  and  ara  datactad   by  currant  survalllanca 
ayataBB       Therafora,    tha   Bxchanga    faala  that  tha  «lialnatlan  of 
brokar  trading  vould  aarloualy    lapalr  urlMt  llqaldity  vhlla 
aarving  no  nsafnl  aarkat  pUtftiaa 

Howavar,   the  Bxcbang*  racognltaa  that  concama  axlat.       Ihna, 
tba  Board  haa   retained  the  services  of  Dr     Sanford  J     Groasnian, 
tba  John  L.    Weinberg  Professor  of  Econonlca  at  Princeton 
Dnivaralty,    to  aaXe  a  conprehenslve   ooplrlcat   study  of  brokar 
trading   in  today'a  futuras  nartcets.      Thia  study,    along  with  tboaa 
conduetad  in  tha  paat,    aa  well  aa  studies  conducted  by  tha 
Exchange  staff     and  now  balng  conducted  by  the  Coaaodlty  Futuraa 
Trading  Commission   ("CFTC"   or  the  "CoBBlaslon")    will   foni  th« 
baaia  of  further  evaluation  of  tba  value  of  broker  trading  to  the 
nation's  futurea  Markata. 

ma  Board  of  Trade  atrongly  urgaa  thia  Coaalttea  to  evaluate 
thaaa  studlas  in  thalr  entirety,  ae  well  as  additional  studies 
which  Bay  ba  subaitted  to  the  CoBvittae,  bafora  aaklng  any  final 
dacialon  an  this  vital  isaua.  The  liquidity  of  the  world's  nost 
efficient  futures  markets  is  at  stake.  'Hie  continued  preeninence 
Of  United  States  futures  aarkets  deserves  careful,  conaldared 
study  before  any  final   racoaaendatlons  tor  action. 

Tha   specific  provlaioiw  of  R.R.    2tt9  regarding  dual  trading 
ara  draconian  and  potentially  devastating.      Banning  dual  trading 
in  contracts  trading  aore  than  seven  thousand   (7  000}   contracts 
pmr  day   is  arbitrary  and  without  any   sound  economic  basis       Had 
such  a   prohibition  been   in  effect  from  19a4-19BS     the  nation'!! 
grain  markets  would  have  suffered  even  noro  severely  than  thay 
did;   'had  floor  brokers  not  been  able  to  aupplement  their   incomes 
during  that  depressed  period  by  alao  trading   Cor  their  own 
account,    there  would  have  been  all  too  few,    if  any,    experienced, 
capable  brokers  to  execute  the  flood  of  ordara  which  cave  to  tba 
■arketa  in  the  suaaer  of  19SS. 

Hie  audit  trail  exaaption  to  the  ban  contained  In  propoaed 
Section  4j(l)(D)   requirae  perfection  whidi  la  huaanly  impoaslbla 
to  achieve.     Detecting  "...   anx  and  all  Inatancea  of  trading 
violations  ...   attributable  to  dual  trading  ..."  and  being  "... 
fully  verifiable'  are  abeolute  atandarda  unattainable  in  the  real 

Tha  proposals  sa^  to  ignore  the  tact  that  tha  united  States 
futurea  aarketa  present ly  have  the  beat  audit  trail  and  coaputer 
■urveillance  systaas  in  any  Barketplace,   foreign  or  doaeatic.     To 


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placa  thasa  luiattalnabl*  standards  upon  an  alraady  axcallant 
aystea  ia  laudable  In  Intant  but  quaatlonable  in  reality.   This  la 
especially  true  given  that  the  Chicago  Board  of  Trade  and  the 
■Chicago  Mercantile  Exchange  have  agreed  to  combine  their  axlatlng 
computerized  audit  trail  and  survalllanca  syatems  into  A   single 
system  capable  of  being  used  by  the  entire  industry.   Since  both 
systems  presently  capture  lOOt  of  all  trades  and  audit  100%  at  all 
trades  for  market  surveillanoa  purposes,  the  CMbinad  aysteiu  will 
achieva  a  level  of  review  unmatched  anyvhara. 

The  Board  of  Trade  is  also  investigating  further 
technological  means  to  improve  the  accuracy  of  the  existing  audit 
trail.   However  our  research  indicates  that  despite  such  aCforts, 
there  ate  limltatlonB  to  the  adaptability  at  current  technology  to 
our  markets  without  risking  destruction  of  market  liquidity   In 
this  regard,  the  propcsal  of  Section  4g(  2}  (B)  (il)  (b)  to  state 
verifiable  execution  times  within  thirty  (30)  seconds,  and  to 
accouplish  this  vlthin  three  (3)    years,  appears  totally 
unrealistic  and  unobtainable.   Moreover,  this  unrealistic, 
unobtainable  standard  appears  unnecessary,  particularly  In  view  of 
the  nature  and  extent  of  recent  audit  trail  enhancements  approved 
by  our  Board  at  Directors. 

The  Exchange  urges  this  Committee  to  consider  Modifying  the 
provisions  of  the  bill  as  follows   (1)  ban  dual  trading  in  those 
contract  market  option  months  where  the   exchange's  audit  trail  and 
■urveillanca  systeuB  ate  insufficient  to  detect  potential  abuses 
that  asy  "be  associated  with  dual  trading;  (2)  provide  certain 
exemptions  frcm  the  prohibition  (such  as  to  those  brokers  who  are 
predominantly  spread  brokers);  (3)    codify  the  existing  «xchanqe 
prohibition  of  trading  ahead  of  (or  "f rontrunning')  a  customer  s 
order;  and  4  require  that  each  exchange's  audit  trail  be 
verifiable  to  the  nearest  minute   Adapting  these  aodif ications 
achieves  the  Committee  S  objective  of  insuring  tb*  highest  dagrea 
of  HarlCBt  integrity  without  sacrificing  tha  market  liquidity 
naaded  to  coapeta  in  today's  world  sarkats. 

Exchange  Surveillance  systems  Market  Enhancements  (ftudit  TraJlal 

As  a  result  of  the  recent  extenaive  ravlawa  by  select 
Committees,  the  Exchange  has  inatltuted  nuverous  enhancements  to 
tha  CTR  and  ctr-fLus  systens.   Tha  following  anhanceaanta  and 
improvements  have  baan  approvad: 

1}  The  CTR-PLU5  survalllanc*  program  has  been  expanded  to 
analyse  ovary  trada  aada  on  the  Exchange,  rather  than 
statistically  selected  saaiples. 


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4)  Haw  Civ*  (5)  ■Inut*  tUw  brack«t«  bav*  b*an  approvad  for 
Um  opaning  and  eloalng  parloda  ot  trada  whaa  trading 
ganarally  !■  tMavl»at. 

5)  Th*  Exchanga  h«a  anbancad  trading  card  raeordation 
raqulrasanta  to  now  raquir*  that  all  trada  carda  auat  torn 
accounCad  Coi;  all  trading  carda  auat  torn   eollactad  and 
tiM-ata^Md  hourly;  and  all  tradaa  auat  ba  autalttad  to 
tha  Claarinq  Hauaa  within  ana  hour  ot  collactian. 

6)  CTR-PLD8  has  b*an  L^rovad  furthar  by  providing  axpandad 
■urvalllanca  tasts  an  axpanded  relational  data  BMaa, 
and  lncr«aa«d  atoraga  capacity. 

7}    Tba  bccbanga  baa  raquired  that  all  trading- floor- tl»a 

ataap  clocka  ba  aynchronlzed  and  accurat*  to  within  tan 
sacond  intarvala. 

a)  Additionally,  tlv«  naw  co^iutar  prograanara  bava  baan 
hlrad  to  support  an  axtanalva  aanbar/ataff  raviaw  and 
raviaion  prac«aa  of  all  aurvalltanea  ayataaa. 

Offlea  of  Invaatl,gatlpn  and  Audita  Enhancamanta 

m*  Offlea  of  Invaatigatlons  and  Audita  "OU"),  tba  aacond 
largaat  dapartaant  at  tha  Exchange  haa  alwaya  «alntalnad  tba 
blgbaat  laval  of  profaaaionaliBa  and  axcellence   The  high  dagraa 
of  profess ionaliaa  aifhibited  by  OIA  has  prom.ptad  O  S     Attomay 
Valukua  to  raaark  "I  hava  a  graat  d«al  ot   confidence  In  tha  staff 

or  tha  Board  ot  Trada."  To  further  atrengthen  OIA,  the  r  ■" 

haa  racoMBandad  furthar  anhancaaents.   Thaaa  Includa: 

9) 


Spaelal  training  prograns  in  invaatigativa  tacbnlquas 
conducted  by  professional  consultant*  hava  baan  approvad 
and  Instituted  tor  OZA  staff. 


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Board  of   Directora   Pollclaa 

Tb«  Exch^nga  bas  raaxaninod  tti«  pow*ra,   authorities  and 
afcructura  of   ita  Board  «f  Oiractors.      The  Exchange  Board   is 
currttntly  a  diversifiad  body  consisting  of   raprascntatives  froB 
all  -aspacta  of  tha  industry  as  well  a«  public  directora.      The 
Rulaa  of  tha  Exchanga  and  ttim  div«ra«  atructura  at  tha  membership 
Inaura  that  aucti  broad  represent  at  ion  will  continue  t-o  exist.      To 
enhance  tha  function  of   the  Directora,   ttia  Board  baa  approvad  the 
tollovlng  Naasuras; 

13)     Tha  Board  has  approvad  and  aubaittad  for  aaabarahip 

approval   a  rule  anendoenC   increasing  tha  fining 
authority  of  the  Board  of  Directora  by  Bora  than   thraa 
hundred  i^rcant    (300%)    from  seventy-fiva  thousand 
dollars   ($75,000)   par  violation  to  two  hundred   fifty 
thouaand  dollars    ($2SO,000)   par  violation 
1*)      The  Board  of  Directors  haa   tomally  reaffirmed  ita 

long-atsndlng  policy  of  excluding  oembara  with  a  history 
of  significant  trade  practice  sanctions  from  being  on 
tha  Board  cf  Diraetora  and  Ba]ar  exchange  diaciplinary 
ecjBBlttaas . 

Flcx>r   Practicaa 

The   Exchange  haa  ravlawad   intenalvaly  axiating  policies, 

rules,    regulations  and  practices  governing  floor  trading.      Tha 
Exchange   believes  that   Its   rules  and  policies  are  highly  reflnad 
to  preaetve  both  the  utsoat   integrity  and  market  efficiency. 
Mavarthaleaa,    tha  following  enhancements  have  been  made: 

15)  Broker  associations  ganarally  do  not  exist  at  tha  Board 
of  Trade.  Nevertheless,  to  prevent  abusive  associations 
from  evolving,  the  Exchange  has  adopted  a  rule  requiring 
that  any  association  of  floor  brolters  oust  register  with 
the  Exchange  in  order  to  enhance  the  Exchange's 
surveillance  of  their  trading  actlvitias- 

16)  Tha  Exchanga  has  approvad  and  aubaittad  to  the  CFTC  for 
ita  approval   a  rule  establishing  a  modified  closing  call 
period  at  the  conclusion  of   trading   to  better  facilitata 
orderly  execution  of  closing  orders   and   increase  the 
efficiency  of  price  discovery  during  closing  marlcet 
periods       This  rule  includes  separate   identification  of 
this  modified  closing  call  period  for  CTR-PLUS 
surveillance  purposes. 


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Tlw  Unhang*  also  has  dona  axtaiwlva  work  In  tue  etbar  ar«aa 
which  vlll  anhanc*  tha  Bxchanga'a  aitdlc  trail  Mad.  tharafora,    ita 
«urvalllanca  capability,      ror  aany  *ontha,    tha  Kxcbanga  haa  baan 
davalopinq  an  «laccronie  ordar-antry  ayataa  ("EOS')    vliich  will 
apaad  public  ordara  diractly  to  tha  pit  via  coaputarliad  antry 
tha  raaultlng  ordar  racord  will   ba  accurata  to  tha  aacond  and  will 
graatly  anhanca  aurvalllanca  aa  wall   aa  battar  aarva  pntalla 

Additionally,  tha  Bxchanga  baa  widar  raviaw  tba  dawalopaant 
of  a  hand-hald  trada  antry  davlca  tor  usa  by  saibara  on  tha  floor 
to  racord  alactTonlcally  all  thalr  tradas  and  Inatantly  transmit 
tha  tradaa  Cor  claacinq       Although  tha  tachnoloqy  (or  auch  a 
davlca  ia  not  praaantly  avallabla,    tha  Zxchanqa  haa  coaalttod 
alqnificant  raaourcas  to  tba  davalopawnt  of  A  hand-hald  trada 
taralnal  which  will  accurataly  rocord  trada  axacwtion  to  tha 

nm  Board  of  Trada  ballavos  thasa  iaprovaaianta  and  othara 
atlll  undar  atudy  will  inaure  that  ita  aarkata  rauln  tha  world'a 
>oat  aff iciart,    liquid  and  aconoaical  whila  slaultainaoualy 
praaarving  tha  hlgbaat  dagxoa  of  intagrity  and  proCaaaional 
participation.      Thla  ia  a  goal  which  wa  balieva  that  all  of  ua   — 
tuturaa  axchangaa     tha  CFTC     Conqreaa  and  aarkat  parCicipanta  — 
■hara  aqualXy       Othar  exchangea   (which  havs  diffarant  aarkata, 
trada  other  producta     hava  aaparata  aanbarahlps  and     In  many 
eaaaa,    diffarant  aarkat  uaaira)    Say  hava  diatlnct  naada  with 
raapact  to  anhancaaanta  of  thalr  oxlatlng  ayataaa       Ha  atrongly 
urga  thla  Subcoaaittaa  to  conaldar  thaaa  diffarancaa  In  Its 
conaldaratlon  of  any  laglalatlon. 

Wa  ballava  that  if  tha  Suhco^lttaa  doaa  aa,    it  will  CMncluda 
that  any  ragulatlon  of   tha   aarkatplace   la  b«st  aecoapliahad  In  a 
"aanagaaant  by  objactiva*    fashion.      For  axanpla,   whan  Congraa*  and 
tha  CFTC  nandatad   iaprovenenta  to  the  audit  trail   in   isas,   that 
nandate  provided  that  each   exchange  ahould  Beat  a  coanon  goal  by 
vhataver  aeana   is  best  suited  to   its  aarketa.     Thua,    the  Board  of 
Trada  and  Chicago  Mercantile   Exchange  responded  by  developing 
CTR.      So  too,    in  any  new  requireaents   for  narket  anhancenents  and 
iaprovaaents.  Congress  and  the  CFTC  should  aiailarty  eatabliah 
broad  objectivaa  which  tha  aalr   regulatory  organiiatlons  ara 
obligated  to  aaat,    hut   in  tba  aannar  which  thay  cfaooaa  to  beat 
aarva  their  particular  varketplaca. 

nia  and  raault  of  such  a  ■anageaant-by-abjectiva  approach 
vlll  undoubtedly   ba  the  further    inprovanent  of   our  existing 
efficient,    liquid  and  honaat  futuras  narkets.      Tha  danger  of 
falling  to  achieve   this  goal   is  that  our  current  markets  could 
eaaily  be  exported  to  foreign  nations  who  ara  eagerly  establishing 
naW  iuturaa  markets  hoping  to  capture  what  la  now  •  unlqualy 
Anarlean  industry. 


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Exchange  currently  ia  designated  by  the  Coaowdity  Futuree  Trading 
Coamlaalon  (■CFTC")  an  a  contract  narliet  for  fifty  eight  (91} 
futuraa  and  futurea  optiona  producta  twenty  aix  (26)  of  which  are 
actively  trading;  thaae  Include  qcaina  financial  futuraa  and 
pracioua  netala   Four  of  the  vorld't  top  ten  contracta  (by  1988 
volume  are  traded  at  the  Board  of  Trada:   United  Statea  Treasury 
Bond  Futures;  Options  On  U.S.   Treasury  Bond  Futures;  Soybean 
Futures;  and  Com  Futuraa.  Zn  19IS,  the  Exchange  traded  143 
million  contracts  nearly  tvica  that  of  the  next  largaat  dosastic 
future*  exchange  and  ■or*  than  tba  naxt  four  da*aatie  exchangaa 
coBbinad. 

The  Exchange  strongly  believes  that  the  prevention  of 
potential  market  abuaes  begins  with  the  integrity  of  tha 
meabcrship  Itself.   Innumerable  member,  staff  and  outsid* 
profesaional  investigation  hours  are  expended  6'n   each  application 
to  insure  that  the  utmost  member  integrity  is  attained   In  isas, 
eight  hundred  twenty  (820)  applications  for  membership  were 
processed  by  the  Exchange.   Heobers  must  trade  (l.-i.   contract 
with]  other  membera  in  the  trading  pits;  the  members  tharafor* 
demand  that  admission  to  aembership  be  a  determination  of 
individual  integrity  which  ensures  fair,  honest  and  eguitabl* 
dealing  among  B*ab«ra. 

The  Exchange  membership  consists  of  1403  Full  Mambars  and  an 
approximately  equal  number  of  Associate  membership  and  maBbarahip 
interest  holders.  The  mesbecship  Is  a  dlvttras  nix  at  individual 
(■local"}  tradara,  brokers,  and  masbar  firms  Including  futures 
commission  merchants  {TCHs") ,  commercial  firms,  Invastmsnt  banks 
and  other  processional  market  participants. 


determined  in  the  first  instance  by  the  Hemb«r3hip  Committea  and 
approved  by  the  Board  of  Directors.  Those  wishing  to  ba  licensed 
floor  brokers  handling  customer  orders  must  also  nndargo 
additional  investigation  through  the  National  Futures  Association 
which  Includes  an  FBI  fingerprint  check. 

Applicants  are  required  to  submit  axtenalve  background 
Information  which  is  subject  to  independent,  professional 
verification.  Applicants  nust  also  obtain  the  sponsorship  of  two 
existing  meoibers;  on  soma  occasions,  sponsorship  aay  entail  « 
financial  guarantee.   The  admission  process  includes  at  least  one 
personal  interview  before  the  Membership  Committee.   Applicants 
are  than  recomniended  to  the  Board  of  Directors  for  approval  or 
disapproval   Those  applicants  recomaended  for  disapproval  are 
given  the  opportunity  Cor  a  hearing.  Disapproved  applicants  may 
appeal  that  action  to  the  CFTC. 


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Thla  rlgorouB  Baabarshlp  ■K>caval  process  balps  kssur*  tiM 
tair  daallng  aaong  BaBbars  which  fonw  ttia  comarston*  of 
■alf-ragulatlon.   Aa  coaaonly  rscognizad  ■alf-ragulat.ion  doaa 
Lncluda  tha  ability  to  prosulgata  and  anforca  ona  a  own  rulaa  and 
ragulatlons.   Indaad,  In  19B8,  the  Exchange  aada  saven  hundred 
tifty-niiM  (759]  rule  and  regulation  ravlsions.  Additionally,  In 
t9Sa  cases,  the  Exchange  issued  charges  tor  trade  rule  violations 
In  sixty-nine  (69)  instances  resulting  In  «  total  at   seventeen 
(17)  years  of  suspensions  and  $1,475,000  in  fines. 

But  self -regulation  Bsana  aore  than  rule  proMilgaticn  and 
enforeesent.   It  also  seans  that  nesbers  are  not  going  to  tolerate 
being  treated  unfairly  or  dishonestly  by  Chair  fallow  seabsrs. 
Most  trading  floor  abuses  involve  a  trading  opportunity  wittaheld 
froH  tha  entira  trading  arena.   Fellow  ueuber- traders  are  not 
going  to  condone  a  lost  trading  opportunity    Indeed,  the 
■ajorlty  of  Exchange  disciplinary  actions  resulting  in  significant 
sanctions  began  with  a  coeplaint  troa  a  asKber  regarding  another 
■wber's  conduct. 

Ibis  is  the  essence  of  a* If -regulation:  seabership  integrity 
upon  adsission  coupled  with  the  vested' Interest  to  preserve  that 
Integrity  on  the  trading  floor   It  is  by  strict  adherence  to 
ttaess  princlpala  that  tha  potential  for  trading  abuses  is 
■iniaiiad  even  prior  to  survaillanca  detection,  enforcement  and 
sanction.   This  Is  a  principal  reason  markvt  users  hava  such 
oonfidenca  in  Board  of  Trade  marJcets.   indeed,  In  I9aa   public 
sarket  users  node  only  thirty  f iva  (35)  complaints  to  the  Exchange 
reqarding  potential  trade  practice  abuses.   Considering  tbe  one 
hundred  forty  three  slllion  (143,000,000)  contracts  traded,  this 
is  s  reoarkably  ^ull  percentage  of  cosplalnts. 

Nor  is  confidence  in  the  Integrity  of  Board  of  Trade  aarkets, 
oversight  and  enforcement  llaited  to  professional  aarltet  users. 
It  is  also  shared  by  top  law  enforceaent  afflclals  vho  have 
experienced  through  representation  of  clients  at  CBOT  disolpllnary 
bsarlngs  the  tborcugbness  and  efficiency  of  Exchange  rule 
enforcement. 

One  of  the  things  ve  do  keep  track  of  is  wbat'a 
taking  place  at  the  Board  of  Trade.   He  are  interested 
in  the  proceedings  at  the  Board  of  Trade,   We're 
interested  because,  in  ay  estimation  tjasgd  on  my  own 
ajtpertise  in  the  area,  the  best  experts  in  the  norld 
concerning  trading  practices  are  the  members  of  the 

Board  of  Trade. I  have  a  great  deal  of  confidence  in 

the  staff  of  the  Board  of  Trade. Thay  are  able  to  aak 

the  difficult  questions;  they  have  the  resources  to 
J,deptlty  trading  practices  in  which  fraud  has  occurred. 
And  frequently,  in  my  experience,  when  they  are  holding 
their  hearing,  they  are  able  to  get  to  the  tough 


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quastlons  quickly.  And  alnc*  th*  Indlvlduala  that  ar* 
subjact  to  tbaaa  procaadinga  ara  subjact  to  axaBiitation, 
ttiay  aak  thoaa  quaatiana,  gat  raaponaaa  and  thoaa 
raaponaaa  ara  an  tha  racord. 


Ha  oftan  In  thaaa  caaaa  call  upon  ttM  Board  to  MOka 
an  avaluatlon  of  Kaabara  from   tha  Board,  Indlvlduala 
froa  tb«  Board,  in  halping  ua  to  find  trtistbar  or  not 
thara  ia  a  fraud  involved   That  ia  to  aay  that  «■  raly 
on  their  ^^pertise.   [Eophaais  added.)  Raaarka  ot   Anton 
B.  Valukaa,  United  States  Attorney  for  tha  Horttiam 
Dlatrict  of  Illinois,  Kent  Comnodltlas  Law  Instituta, 
Horkahop  on  Enforcenent/Crininal  Mattora,  Octobar  31, 
1988. 

It  la  thia  combination  of  innovatlva,  attlclant,  liquid 
Barkets  and  a  raputation  among  profeaaional  market  users  for 
unaurpaaaad  InCsgrlty  vhich  ia  largely  responsible  for  the  Board 
of  Trade's  preeminent  poaltion  in  the  vorld'a  futures  markets. 
Howaver,  that  preeminence  is  fragile.   Compatitlon  for  new  markets 
asong  domestic  exchanges,  always  fierce,  has  intensified.   But 
more  critically,  the  challenge  of  foreign  coapetltion  for 
doninance  in  futures  trading  is  increasing  dally. 

FOREIGH  COMPETITIOH 

The  afficlenoy  and  liquidity  of  United  Stataa  futures  markata 
ar*  the  envy  of  the  entire  world.   Virtually  every  major  nation  on 
earth  -  Japan,  Great  Britain,  France,  Swltierland,  Australia  and 
even  China  -  has  established  futures  markets  in  the  image  of 
Chicago's  futures  markets.   These  (ornign  futures  markets  in  many 
instances  are  directly  subsidized  by  the  national  govamaent  and 
are  strongly  supported  by  national  mandate.   There  is  no  secret  to 
futures  contract  specifications;  they  can  be  imitated  by  photocopy 
In  ninutes.   It  ia  the  experience,  expertiae  and  integrity  of  the 
floor  trading  population  which  establishes  Oilcaga's  futures 
markets  as  the  uorld  leader.   But,  that  market  edge  la  fragile  and 
could  be  easily  upset  or  destroyed. 

The  foreign  challanga  to  tha  n.s.  futures  Industry  has 
incraased  markedly  in  recent  ya&rs.  Although  activity  at  U.S. 
futures  exchanges  has  continued  to  grow  activity  at  foreign 
axchangas  has  grown  much  faster   The  market  share  of  O.S. 
axchang«3  has  declined  because  futures  exchanges  have  proliferated 
ovaraeaa;  products  offered  by  foreign  exchanges  have  becoma  more 
divara*  as  the  benefits  of  futures  narkata  become  better 
understood.   Porslgn  exchanges  nov  coapata  directly  with  Axsrlean 
axchangas;  there  ara  now  several  contracts  traded  on  foreign 
axchangas  which  are  identical  to  contracts  traded  dowaatleally. 


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Th*  Btatiatlc*  ar*  *obaring.   It  not  ErlgtatMiing. 

In  tb*  p«at  four  y««rs,   tti*  Board  of  Trad*  has  liicr»aa«d  Ita 
total  voluB*  of  contracts  tradad  by  91%.     BoiMvar,  during  that 
aan*  parlod     tha  Exchanqa  ■  narkat  ahara  of  trarld-wida  futuraa 
VOlima    dacraaaed   by  3   6   parcent      tram   37. 6t   of  tha  world  Barkat  ta 
34t)  .      Tha   rasBon  tha  Exchanga  lost  vorld  Markat  abar*  was  that 
forelqn  axchanga  volUB*  graw  Ufii.       IBmm  Appandlx  1,   Tabla  1  and 
Figura  i.) 

In  I9a5,   tba  tan  Boat  actlvaly  tradad  Cuturaa  oontracts  In 
tha  world  vara  aU  Unitad  Stataa  producta.      By  19«6,   tJia  fifth 
Boat  activaly  tradad  contract  vaa  Japanaaa,    a  poaltion  vhich  it 
continuas  to  hold  today       By  XiiT,   tha  savsnth  aost  activaly 
traded  contract  waa  rranch;   today,    tha   French  Bond  Puturaa 
contract  has  gToWi^  to  occupy  ttia  nUMbar   aix  position  on  tha   list. 
(Stt  Appendix  1     Tabla  3.]      In  1995,    no  foreign  futurea  contracts 
wara  aaong  the  twenty-tlva  Bost  activaly  tradad.      Today,    aix  of 
tba  top  twanty-five  ara  foralgn  contracts.      (Saa  A^iandiK  1, 
Table  4.) 

ProB  1914  to  19Sa,   tha  nuBbar  of  doBastlc  futuas  contracts 
trading  grew  351.      But  the  number  of    foreign   futures  contracts 
trading  grew  by  84%    in  that  aaiM  period.      (Sfig  Appendix  1,    Tabla 
2.)      Tha  London  International  Financial   Futures   Exchanga    ("LIFTK') 
tradaa  a  U.S.    Treasury  Bond  ruturea  contract   identical  to  tba 
Board  of  Trada'a  nost  act lv*ay- tradad  contract.     Voluaa  in  tba 
LIPFK  U.S.  T-bond  contract  baa  triplad  ainc*  t9S5  to  ovar  two 
Billion  contracts  par  yaar. 

statistics  prove  that  aarkat  usars  ara  willing  and  abla  to 

-quickly  shift  their  aarket  activity  overseas,  tor  axaapla,    U  8. 
Treasury  Bond  futures  trading  was  brisk   following  the  October  19, 
1997    stock  market  break       On  Tuesday,    October  SO,    prices  of  the 
Board  of  Trade  a  Bond  futurea  contract    Increased  up  to  the  Upper 
llBit  alloved  for  a  single  day;    aa  required  by   Exchange  rules, 
trading   in  T-hond  futures  was  effectively  stopped.      As  a  result, 
leaa   than  3S,U0O  T-bond  contracts  were  traded   during  daytiBe 
trading  at  the  CBOT  on  October  id  compared  to  the  daily  average 
volune  of  386, MS  during  October,    IWt.      Instead,    aarkat  usars 
shifted  their  activity  overseas  to  the  LIFFB  whan  their  needs 
could  not  be  net  in  the  tJ  3       volume  in  tha  LIPPB  T-bond  contract 
exploded  to  ovar  47,000  contracts  traded  on  October  30     nearly 
eight  tines  its  svarage  daily  voluva  of   6,200  for  the  first  tan 
■onttaa  of    1987        (Sfifi  Appendix  1,    Tabla   6.)      Tha  increase   in 
volume  at  tha  LIFFE  might  have  baan  avan  greater  had  narket  usara 
iMen  mora   familiar  with  that  exchange  and  had  thay  not  had  auA  a 
strong  preference  for  the  CBOT   margin  and  clearing  systaM. 

Despite  the  well-known   integrity  and   liquidity  of  tha  CBOT 
T-bond  contract,    participants  in  tha  T-bond  market  sought  risk 
Banagaaant   services  elsewhere  once  trading  in  the  CBOT  market 
stopped.      This   event  deaonstrates  tha  aaaa  of  shifting  futures 
Bsrkat  activity  abroad   if  necessary.      Thus,    even  the  world  s  Boat 
active  futures  contract  is  vulnerable  to   foreign  coapetition. 


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It  is  clBar  that  thera  ar«  now  nuK«rouB  rlak  aanagMMnt 
vabiclea  available  to  thoa*  wito  neea   to  tiedge  against  price  risk 
and  to  speculators  who  if*  willing  to  accept  that  risk.  Anarioan 
futures  markets  compete  net  only  with  foreign  futures  exchanges 
but  also  with  altemaCiVA  risk  aanagemenC  vehicles  sucb  aa  forward 
contracts,  swaps  caps,  collars  and  other  financial  producta. 
These  various  tlsk  nanageaent  products  are  available  at  the  touch 
of  a  telephone  button;  global  narkats  are  all  easily  ■ccesaad  and 
or*  becoming  mare  faailiar  to  market  users. 

The  availability  of  so  many  other  Methods  and  locations  to 
conduct  risk  managenont  means  that  any  increase  in  the  costs  of 
using  one  of  these  vahiclea  can  result  in  a  huge  disadvantage 
rslstive  to  the  competition.   This  high  degree  of  competition 
■•ens  that  market  iis«rd  l»naflt  as  each  provider  must  kaep  its 
costs  low  and  tha  quality  of  customer  service  must  ba  maintained 
in  order  to  keep  customers,  dn   tha  other  hand,  any  regulations 
that  increase  the  cost  of  using  futures  markets  or  reduce  the 
quality  of  customer  service  being  provided  will  put  the  U.S. 
futures  industry  at  a  competitive  disadvantage.   To  choose  but  on* 
instance,  restrictions  on  broker  trading  would  reduce  the 
efficiency  of  U.S.  futures  markets  and  would  lower  the  quality  of 
service  provided  to  users  of  these  markets.   {It  should  be  noted 
that  broker  trading  commonly  is  permitted  in  foreign  markets.) 


In  tha  face  of  such  intense,  dedicat__  _. 

competition  tor  what  were  only  a  few  years  ago,  uniquely  American 
markets  Congress  must  carefully  consider  its  actions  to  avoid  any 
action  which  could  cripple  domestic  futures  markets  Bvan  foreign 
journalists  whose  home  markets  stand  to  benefit  from  any  hasty 
U.S.  legislative  reaction  have  axpressly  cautionad  us  not  to  enact 
ill-considered  legislation. 

America's  politicians  would  therefor*  ba  well 
advised  to  temper  their  natural  desire  to  "do  eomtthlng* 
and  refrain  from  hasty  ill-considered  regulation  of 
Chicago.   That  "casino",  as  it  is  described  by  its 
opponents,  1*  in  fact  one  of  America's  most  successful 
industries....   Toyko  and  London,  not  to  mention  other 
financial  centres,  would  clearly  love  to  get  a  blggar 
slice  and  vill  seize  any  opportunity  to  do  so.   It  was. 
it  needs  to  be  remembered,  ill-considered  American 
legislation  In  tha  ISfiO's  that  allowed  London  to  becoae 
the  centre  of  the  international  debt  markets,  usually 
known  as  the  Euromarkets.   Future  Permanent,  ni* 
Economist,  June  11,  1988. 

Today,  we  have  the  best  futures  market*  in  the  world,  reputed 
for  both  their  cost  efficiency  and  market  Integrity.   He  nist 
carefully  preserve  that  delicate  balance  in  the  face  of  our  less 
regulated  foreign  compatition  as  w*  consider  any  proposals  for 


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ragulktory  cbanga.      Ha  auat  not  dacaiva  ouraalva*  iKto  thlnKlng 
that  our  foraign  ooapatitora  will  not  oraata  a  quality  product  at 
tba   lowaat  pric*  posalbla.      Th*  proot   la  aalf-avldast;  tlwy  hava 
dona  ao  in  eountlaa*  othar  Industrlaa  wbara  tba  Dnltad  St«t«s  was 
only  racMitly  tba  world  laadar. 

QVEMIGHT    *    EHFOHCEWEirr 

Co^atitlon  tor  sarkat  «har«  la  not  dapandant  aolaly  on 
Borkat  liquidity   and   atfLciancy.      Market  uaara  valua  tha  intagrity 
of  tlia  trading  procaaa  vary  highly,     tihila  strict  M«b«r  adaiaalon 
•tandarda  and  vastad  Balf-lnCaraBt  tora  tba  foundation  of  narkat 
intagrity,    vigorous  ovaraight,    atu^alllanca  and  •nforcaaent  aca 
also  of  paramount  laportanca.      Aa   a  asBberahip  salf-ragulatory 
organisation,    tba   Board  of  Trada   insurss  compllanc*  wltti   fair  and 
•gultabia  trsdo  practices  principally  through    tha   Floor  Governors  . 
CoBalttaa,    tba  Bualnaaa  Conduct  CoBBiCtee,    and  tha  Board  of 
Diractora. 

Tba  dutias  and  powara  of  tha  Floor  Govamora  CaHU.ttaa  ara 
ganarally  defined  by  cboT  Kula  5«3.oa  which  provides  that  tha 
Coialttaa  shall  assutrA  that  tba  practices  and  conduct  of  n«mb«rs 
of  tha  Aaaociation,    aember  firaa  and  other  peiaohs  with  trading 
privilag«a  on  tha  Exchange  Floor  ara    in  conpliance  witb  tha  KHlaa 
and  Ragulations  of  tha  Aaaoclation.      Tha  COHilttaa  la  authorizad 
to  take  action  against  parsona  and  flraa    including:        1     disklssal 
of  chargaa  and  cloalng  tba  aattar;    (2)    issuance  of  ■  warning 
lattar;    or    (3)    issuance  of  prallalnary  Oiarges   and  scheduling  of  ■ 
haarlng  on  tba  aarits.      If  prallalnary  charges  are   issued,    tha 
Coaaittaa  will  afford  tha  raspondant (a]    an  opportunity  for  a 
foraal,    evidentiary  hearing  of  record  with   right  to  counsel.      If, 
aftar  bearing,    the   Coanittee  detarBlnes  rule  violations  hava 
occurred,    tba   Comalttea  may  fine  or  auapand  the  respondent  or  «ay 
charge  tha  respondent  and  refer  tba  aattar  to  tha  Board  for  tba 
iapoBltlen  of  aanctions. 

Additionally  Regulation  540.09  provides  respondaata  with  tbe 
opportunity  and  daans  to  settle  praliiilnary  charges.  SettleMsnts 
■ay  be  accepted  on  auch  taraa  and  conditions  as  tbe  Ooaalttas  uy 
deea  appropriate - 

The  duties  and  powara  of  tha  Business  conduct  Coanlttae  ara 
generally  -defined  in  CBOT  Rule  543.00  which  provides  that  the 
Cavittaa   is  responsible  for  preventing  price  oanlpulation  and  the 
cornering  of  any  comodlty  on  the  Exchange  and  for  supervising  the 
business  conduct  of  all  Bembers     mesber  firms  and  other  persona 
with  trading   privileges        In  regard  to  tha  latter  responsibility, 
two  of  the  duties  of  the  CsBnlttea  are    (1)    to  enforce  the  alninun 
capital  rules  of  the  Exchange,    as  approved  by  tha  CFTC     and  <2}    to 
enforce  Exchange  Rules   and  Regulations  pertaining  to  tbe  handling 


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of  cuBtomar  orders,  custooer  accounts  and  Hargtnfl.   Other  dutiaa 
Inciuda  raviawing  raquasts  Cram   flraa  to  pra-pay  subordinated 
loans,  supervision  of  tlras  that  ara  regular  for  delivery  on  Board 
of  Trade  agricultural  contracts,  and  all  ganaral  nattars  of  aeBbar 
solvency. 

The  CoBBlttaa  1«  authorized  to  impose  spacltlc  disciplinary 
sanctions;  to  recommend  that  the  Chainsan  inpos«  restrictions  on 
the  operations  of  a  member,  member  firm  or  othar  ^tdon  with 
trading  privileges;  and  to  impose  rsEtrictlons  Ort  sember  FCHs  that 
fail  to  meet  the  capital  raquirenents  of  the  Encbange.  The 
Committee  also  is  authorized  to  order  any  member  to  cease  and 
d«*i*t  from  past  or  proposed  -conduct  that  It  finds,  after  notice 
and  an  opportunity  for  hearing,  to  be  unfair  unjust  or  in 
violation  of  CBOT  Sules  and  Regulations.   The  comiittee  may  impose 
a  fin*  of  up  to  twenty  five  thousand  dollars  ($25,000)  for  aacb 
violation.   Caasa  and  Desist  orders  are  final  and  not  appealable. 
As  an  alternative  to  issuing  a  Cease  and  Desist  order  and/or  a 
tin*  in  disciplinary  matters,  the  Committee  may  file  charges 
against  a  «*mb«r,  member  firm  or  other  person  with  trading 
privileges  vith  the  Board  of  Directors. 

Decisions  of  both  the  Floor  Governors  Committee  and  Business 
Conduct  Committee  generally  are  appealable  to  tha  Board  of 
Directors   The  Committees  nay  also  refer  charges  to  tha  Board  for 
Its  disposition  where  the  Committee  feels  its  sanctioning 
authority  is  too  limited  for  the  severity  of  the  violations 
found   Thus  the  Board  functions  in  ttie  one  instance  ii   h  pure 
"appellate"  body  and  in  the  other  purely  as  a  sentencing  forum. 
In  either  Instance,  a  general  right  of  appeal  from  a  Board 
decision  to  the  CFTC  Is  provided  by  Part  Eight  of  CFTC 
Regulations. 

Hember  disciplinary  comnlttees  are  uniquely  qualified  to 
enforce  Exchange  rules-   The  knowledge  of  trade  practices  ana 
experience  with  the  business  of  futures  trading  possessed  by  these 
ssmbers  cannot  be  duplicated  outside  the  Exchange.  Kesbers  of  the 
Floor  Governors  Comaittee  and  Business  Conduct  Committee  typically 
have  ten  to  twenty  years  experience  in  futures  trading,  most  of  it 
at  the  Exchange.   This  member  expertise  is  an  invaluable  and 
Irreplaceable  asset  In  the  oversight  and  enforcement  of  Exchange 

Equally  valuable  as  aeBber  expertise  is  the  professional 

staff  support  the  Committees  receive.  The  Board  of  Trad* 
continually  monitors  member  and  member  firm  compliance  with  its 
rules  and  regulations,  as  well  as  those  of  the  industry,  through 
kt»   Office  of  Investigations  and  Audits.   As  part  of  its 
surveillance  efforts  the  OIA  is  constantly  in  contact  with  other 
Exchanges  the  National  Futures  Association  and  the  CFTC  to 
exchange  relevant  information. 


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OIA  is  coapria*d  of  Clva  lnt«rr«lat*d  i 
InvaattgatioriB  Oapartaant  la  raaponaibl*  for  Invaat lasting 
inquiriaa  froM  cuatoaars  and  rae*rrala  trom  aaabara,  BaabaE  tlrm» 
and  tiim   CFTC  concamlng  any  sarkat  activity  or  trada  practlcaa 
which  Involva  potantlal  violations  of  Board  of  Trada  mlaa  and 
raqulatlon*.   Thaaa  invaatlgationa  Involva  a  coaprahanaiva  procasa 
of  obtalfiinq  atatananta  froa  witnaaaas  and  partia*  involved, 
conducting  trada  raconatructlon  ravlawa  and  analy«lnq  trading 
docuBenta.   Tha  dapartaetit  say  cloaa  caaaa  adninlatratlvaly  whan 
tbarq  la  InauEflciant  avidanca  of  rula  vtolatiana.   All  -casaa 
involving  potantial  rule  violationa  ar*  aubalttad  to  -tha 
■ppropriata  Exchdnga  disciplinary  coaalttaaa.   nM  depart— nt  is 
rasponaibla  for  tha  praparatlon  and  proaacution  of  eaaaa  involving 
it*  invaatigation*. 

Staff  of  tlta  Invastigationa  Oapartaant  ia  alao  raaponslble 
for  initiating  and  conducting  Trada  Practiea  Invaatlgationa 

tPis"!  on   «  continuoua  baal*.   TPIa  Involva  raviaving  daily 
axception  reports  of  tha  Exehanga'a  trading  actlvitias  of  aaobers 
and  nanbar  flrss  to  datact  patterns  of  conduct  vhlch  say  indicate 
rula  violations   TPIa  are  conducted  utilising  the  coaputerlted 
Trada  Reconstruction  Systan. 

The  Inveatigations  Dapartaant  alao  aalntaina  a  floor 
surveillance  progran  that  involvas  diractly  obaarving  floor 
trading  activity  on  a  dally  basis. 

Tha  Raporting  and  Kaaearch  bapartaent  is  roaponaibl*  lor 
auditing  tha  Board  of  Trade  a  CTR  systen.   It  also  conducts 
aurprlss  on-sits  reviews  of  all  audit  trail  data  suhKlttad  by 
■anbars  and  Benber  firms   Ttie  department  la  alao  rsaponaibla  toe 
■aintalning  OXA's  other  various  computer  systems  and  coordinsting 
tha  departaant's  Interaction  with  tha  CFTC. 

nia  Narkat  Surveillance  Department  ensures  tha  ordarLy 
axpiratlon  of  all  Board  of  Trade  contracts  and  monitors  trading 
activity  in  order  to  detect  attempts  at  price  manipulation, 
aquesaas  of  a  commodity  or  corners  In  a  market.   To  acconpliah 
these  tasks.  Market  Surveillanca  complies  and  reviews  Information 
relating  to  volume,  open  Interest,  currant  cash  commodity  prices, 
availabla  stocks,  deliverable  supply,  and  positions  hald  by 
clsarlng  member  firms  and  large  traders.   Market  Surveillance 'a 
analysis  of  ttaia  information  identifies  Cutureaycash  price 
relationshlpa  which  may  potentially  ba  disruptlv*  to  tha 
■arketplBca .   Statistical  reports  including  historical  >srk«t  data 
are  also  compiled  weekly. 

During  a  nontb  in  which  a  futures  contract  is  eligible  tor 
delivery  or  expires.  Market  Surveillance  say  be  in  frequent 
contact  with  aajor  participants.  Kith  respsct  to  stock  indsx 


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iturcs  contracts,   MarlMt  Survcillancs  conmunicatas  witb  ■■■bar* 

Alt  intamarket  surveillanca  qroup  that  Includes  staff   froa  th« 
>v  York  Stock   Exchanga,    tha  Aaorican   Stock  Yxchtntqn,   the  Cbie*g« 
trcantil*   Bxchanga,    tha  Chicago  Board  Options   Bxchanga,    tb« 
liladalphia   Stock  Exchanga  and  tha  Kansas  City  Board  oC  Trad*. 

nt*  OIA's  financial  Survalllance  Departsent  ansuras  that  all 
>ard  of  Trada  aanbar    flraa   conply  with  tha  Exchanga's  capital 
lias  and  capital  guidallnes.    Tha   Pinanclsl  Surveillanca 
ipartnent  routinely  analyzes  the   financial  health  of  ■ambar  tixmm 
.th  the  Simulated  Analysis   and  Financial  Exposure    ("BATE") 
'Stan,    tha  nost  sophisticated  computerized   financial  survaillanc* 
-ogras  in  the   futures  or  securities    industries.      Tha  SAFE  systa* 
■aluatas  the  risk  of  veiibar  fims  at  current  market  lavals  and  at 
variety  of  coobinations  of  different  market  and   volaClHty 
ivels.      Tha  SAFE  system   generates  approximately  one  hundred 
.ffarant  reports,    including  but  not    limited  to  pay/collact 
iforaationi/,    margin  data,    and   large   trader  reports.      Tha  OIA 
tares  use  of   tha  SAFfi  system  with  the   Board  of  Trade  Clearing 
>rparation,   which  daveioped  the  system 

Any  actual  or  potential  problama  discovarad  during  tbe 
lalyats  results   in  an  immedlats  phcne  call  to  tha  firm  or  an 
i-aita   financial  review       Nombor  firms  are  also  required  by  the 
lard  of  Trade  regulations   to   notify  the  Financial  Survaillanoe 
ipart—nt  at  changes    in  key   financial  data. 

The  OIA  Audits  Department  conducts  biennial  reviews  of  tha 
lolcs  and  records  of  each  Board  of  Trade  member  firs  that   is 
iglstered  aa  a  Futures  Commission  Merchant    ("FCHs")    to  detemin* 
«pl'l*'K*  vith  Exchange  rules  and  regulations.      Audits  focus  on 
le   tiraa'    financial  and  compliance  procedures.      During  a 
.nancial  audit,    a   firm's  financial   condition   is  analysed,    along 
.til  the  composition  of  balance  sheets  and  capital  cosputatlona  to 
irity  that  the   firm  has  appropriate   procedures  to  ensure  the 
intinuous   subnission  of  accurate  financial  information  to  the 
»bange.      Also     customer  balances  are  reviewed  and  the  proper 
igregation  of  custoaer  funds  is  verified. 

nie  compliance  portion  of  the  audit  e^tSMines  ■  saBber  tira's 
-ocedures    for  customer  order  preparation  and  processing  margins, 
lening  an  account,    account  documentation  and  discretionary 
«ounts.      Cash  transactions  are  reviewed  to  establish  that  the 
rm  is  properly  accounting  for  customer  transactions       The  Audita 
apartment  also  makes   surprise  sales  practice  reviews  of  aamber 
«s'    branch  oCficaa  and  guaranteed   introducing  brokers.      These 
^views  cover  the  solicitation  of  custcver  accounts  and  customer 


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OiM  Of  th«  principal   toola  usad  by  OIA  to  conduct  Its  B»rk«t 
■urvaillanc*  wm)    invamtiqaClon   raaponatbUiciaa   La  th* 
COBput*rii«d  Trad*  Kaconatructlon  Syataa  and  ica  darivativ* 
■yataa     CTR-Plua.      CTD    ia   Uia  world'a  aoat  aopriiatlcatad  sarkat 
audic  trail       CTR  docuaanta  vho  tradad  uhat  quantity  at  uhich 
contracts  at  wbat  prlc«  and  tha  datarBlnad  Cina  of   axacuclon  ia 
■tatad  to  tba  naarast    aacond  for  a11     10<»     of  tha  contracta 
tradad  on  tha   Exchan^a.      Critically,   CTR  data   is  availabla  vithin 
tvanty-four  houra       <:raat«d  by  tha  Exchanq*  in    1986    in  conjunction 
with  tba  Chicago  Karcantila  Exchdnga     CTR  alao   ellainstes   tha 
paaalbility  of    ItMlivldual  hu>an  nanipulstlon  of  tlaas,   without 
iapalriT\g  aarkat  liquidity  as  vould  occUC  by  ragulring  tradara  to 
aark  axacutlon  ti>as        cTft  ia  tha  aoftvara  aarriaga  of  Wo 
indapandent  coaputariied  trade  racords,    Che  elaarlng  trad* 
«attl«ment  record  and  tha  price  reporting   tiaa  and  salaa  journal. 
By  altalnatlng  rallanca  upon   tiuaan    recording  at   tl»aa,    CTR 
anhancaa  reliability  ot  tba  audit  trail  data. 

CTR-Plua   ia  coaprisod  ot  tha  coaputarizad  prograns  deaignad 
by  OIA  atafC,    nembar  committees  and  outelda  professicnal 
eonaultants  to  aonitor  trade  activity  via  computer.      Although    it 
previously  relied  upon  atatiBtically  valid  trade   aaaples,    CTR-Plua 
now  reviews  loot  oC  the  Exchange  a  trading  activity  vith  a  variety 
ot  sophiatlcated  survailiance  prograaa.      These  prograaa  aonitor 
tor  potential   abuses   such  aa  trading  ahead  of  custoaer  orders 
(■broker   trontrunning')  ,    croseing  orders,    talcing  the  oppoaiVe  aide 
of  a  customer  order,    prearranged  trading,    ring  trading,   inah  aalas 
and  other  aiailar  potential   violations  ot   Exchange  and  CFTC  trade 
regulations. 

Si^ly  atatad,   CTR  ia  tha  world'a  boat  audit  trail  and 
CTR-Plua  tba  world'*  nost  sophisticBtad  trade  surveillance 
prograa.      Nevertheless,    the  Board  ot  Trade   recognizes  that   succcaa 
la  a   journey     not  a  destination.      laprovenents  are  always 
peaalhle.      Therafor*.    an  Gxchanga  select   oversight  conalttee  baa 
baan   intensively  reviewing  CTS  and  CTR-Plus  to   improve  theic 
Accuracy  and  effectiveness.      Those   enhancenenta   adopted  to  data 
ara  spaclfiad  haraattar. 

Additionally,    tha  Board  ot  Trade  and  tba  Chicago  Karcantll* 
Exchange  have  agreed  to  coablna  tbair  raapectlva  systems  and 
expertise  to  craata  ona,    unified  audit  trail  and  ^urveillanca 
system  which  can  be  uaad   industry-wide       Tha  resulting 
enhancements   and   Improvenients   to  the  audit  trail  and  related 
analytical  systems,    already  the  world  s  best,    will  serve  as  a 
model  to  other  markets   and  a   foraldable  daterent  to  any  potantial 
trade  practice  abusers. 


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THE  fepfiRAL  rHVESTIflATIOH 

This  Coiaitt**  Is  well  4wata  that  certain  mmmbmrm   of  tlM 
Chicaqo  Hercatitlla  Bxchanga  and  the  Board  at  Trads  have  been  the 
subject  of  widespread  nedla  speculation  regarding  a  United  Statss 
Attorney/ Federal  Bureau  of  Investigaticn  ("FBI")  inveatlgatlon  on 
the  trading  floor  of  both  exchanges.   Recent  praaa  reports  also 
indicate  that  a  CFTC  (and  possibly  a  federal  grand  Jury) 
investigation  is  being  conducted  regarding  trading  activities  at 
several  New  York  futures  exchanges.   Unsubstantiated  press  rumors 
of  alleged  fraud  at  the  exchangee  have  led  adiAA  to  raise  concerns 
regarding  the  Integrity  of  the  Exchange's  marksts. 

Initially,  the  Board  of  Trade  does  not  condone  —  and  never 
has  condoned  ---  fraud  or  any  other  trade  practice  abuse   The 
Exchange  has  consistently  charged  and  sanctioned  rule  violators 
vlth  penalties  ranging  from  fines  to  suspensions  and  expulsions. 
He  have  developed  CTt)  and  CTR-FLUS  as  part  of  our  comnitnent  to 
the  goal  of  ensuring  fair  and  honest  markets  Oh  uhich  the  public 
and  members  alike  can  r-ely   Should  any  federal  investigation 
result  in  proven  cases  of  fraud,  ve  endorse  and  support  the 
elimination  of  dishonest  traders  from  the  markets   But,  at  this 
preliminary  stage,  we  must  remember  several  critical  facta. 

First,  there  have  been  no  Indictments,  merely  subpoenas.   A 
subpoena  does  not  establish  guilt  or  even  a  presumption  of  a 
problem,  especially  broad  'record-retention'  subpoenas  of  the  kind 
Issued  in  this  investigation. 

Similarly,  without  indictments,  thsrs  obviously  has  bssn  no 
trial,  plea  or  conviction  upon  which  to  assess  the  nature  and 
savsrlty  of  rule  violations,  if  any.   Discussions  of  any  specific 
rule  violation,  especially  unsubstantiated  alleged  abuses  of 
broker  trading,  ar*  purely  speculative  at  this  point   At  this 
point,  reports  of  any  abuses  reside  solely  In  self-serving, 
sensationalist  press  articles. 

Thus,  we  cannot  lose  sight  of  what  Is  known.   Hhat  is  known 
Is  that  the  United  States  Attorney  has  assured  the  Board  of  Trade 
that  the  Exchange  Itself  is  not  the  target  of  any  investigation. 
Hhat  is  also  of  record  is  the  thoroughness  and  stringency  of 
Exchange  member  admission  policies  and  practices.   Hhat  la 
established  is  the  excellence  of  the  Board  of  Trads  A   CTR-Plus 
system,  a  system  which  identified  prior  to  subpoenas  being  Issued 
the  suspicious  trading  practices  of  an  FBI  "mole"  trading  aS  a 
member.   Most  importantly,  what  is  evidenced  by  the  market 
enhancements  detailed  below  is  the  uncompromising  dedication  of 
the  Board  of  Trade  to  improving  its  already  excellent  oversight 
and  enforcement  programs. 


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APPROVEP    mUKET    ENHAM CEMENTS 

Ttwr*  can  b«  no  doubt  that  tha  history  of  tba  Board  o£  Trad* 
to  this  day  !■  a  uniqu*  and  anvlabla  story  oC  succeu.   Froa 
pionaarlng  fair,  ll^ld,  afficient  agricultural  futursa  in  tha 
praviouB  cantury  to  tha  introduction  of  financial  futuraa,  tha 
ccaatton  of  trading  options  on  aquity  sacuritiaa  and  tha  growth  of 
tha  world's  largest  futuras  contracts,  tha  Board  of  Trada  has  an 
unsurpassad  racord  of  -achlavaaant 

Navarthalass,  tha  Board  of  Trada  racogniiaa  that  innovation 
and  iaprovaaant  ara  on-going,  avolvlng  afforta,  not  naraly  an 
axcuaa  to  point  with  prlda  to  past  achiavasants.  Tba  txcbanga  is 
constantly  axaainlng  its  narkat  aachanisaw  and  survsillanca 
tachnlquas  to  inaura  tha  continuad  auccass  and  uaar  conCidatwa  in 
our  aarXats. 

In  racant  aonths,  tha  spotlight  cast  by  tba  praas  ravalatlona 
of  a  grand  jury  Investigation  intensified  the  Board  of  Trade's 
axlstlng  avolutionary  devalopnent  of  market  mechanisn  refinenents 
and  surveillance  systea  improveaents .   While  self -regulation  and 
salf -Intersst  alona  would  requira  such  exaBlnation,  tha  potential 
for  lost  public  confidence  in  tha  integrity  of  these  DarXets 
daaandad  a  redoubled  effort.   Consequently,  nimarous  Exchange 
coMBlttaas  were  delegated  ttie  task  of  a  thorough  review  and 
eKaalnatlon  of  numerous  issues  Including  trade  practices,  trade 
rules,  CTR  and  CTR-Plua  rafinaaants  and  aaBbership  qualifications. 

That  ravia«  pro^eas  'has  culainatad  in  tMnty  one  (31)  najor 

raconmendations  which  have  been  approved  by  tha  Soard  of  Diractora 
tor  ivpleBuntation.   the  txchan^e'a  board  of  Directors  and 
-Beabarship  believe  thld  program  of  enhancements  to  existing  rulaa 
and  Bystems  will  oaks  significant  substantive  Improveaents  to  tha 
already  efficient  functioning  of  our  markets  as  wall  am  halp  to 
assure  that  degree  of  public  confidence  necessary  for  tha  narltata 
to  function  affactivaly.  X  brief  daacription  of  aaeh  action 
follows. 

Brokar  fPualt  Trading 

It  is  curious  and  disturbing  that  although  thara  has  b«an  no 
hint  of  abuses  by  floor  brokers  who  also  trade  Cor  their  own 
account  «v«n  in  the  sensationalist  prasa  accounts  of  tha  grand 
Jury  investigation,  those  who  have  long  ni sunders tood  tha  rola  and 
value  of  broker  trading  Iiav«  chosen  to  iise   this  as  An 
'opportunity"  to  resurrect  thalr  objections  and  sis conceptions. 
Thus,  it  appears  that  Congress  must  ance  again  study  and  evaluata 
tha  function  that  brokar  trading  parfonu  in  tha  *arkats. 


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Tha  practic*  of  broker  trBding,  or  trading  *■  '  principal  and 
as  an  agant,  !■  wldeapread  In  tha  TJnltad  Ststss  and  abroad.   For 
•xaapla,  brolcu:  d«al«r»  a*  wall  a*  futuraa  camniasion  merchant* 
('PCM'*")  trade  Cor  the  fir>'a  proprlatary  account  and  also  handle 
cuatoaar  ordera.   Securitlea  apaelallata  are  not  only  peooittad, 
but  In  ttfmt   Instances  obllgatad,  to  trade  for  their  own  account 
irtiila  ainultaneously  executing  customar  orders   Thua,  any 
axasination  of  floor  broker  trading  In  futures  contracts  also 
•bould  raquire  reviav  of  the  idantical  phenoDena  in  the  structure 
of  FOI'e,  brokar  daalara,  securities  specialiats  and  otltars. 

Broker  trading  provldaa  two  principal  benefits  to  tha  futures 
■arkats.   First,  because  broker  traders  are  permitted  to  trade  for 
Chair  own  accounts,  they  are  able  to  engage  in  trading  atrategies 
.  In  the  course  of  executing  a  customer  order  which  result  in  a 
batter  price  for  tha  customer  than  can  be  obtained  by  a  broker  who 
does  not  personally  trade.   Tha  Exchange's  preliminary  staff  study 
of  broker  trading  (atCached  hereto  as  Appendix  2)  provides 
datailed  examples  of  these  trading  strategies,  describes  tha 
specific  advantages  customers  derive  from  broker  trading  and 
presents  letters  from  custoaars  explaining  why  thay  prefer  to  have 
their  orders  executed  by  broker  traders. 

nils  element  of  preference  raises  tha  obvious  but  seldom 
articulated  fact  that  customers  can  choose  to  have  their  orders 
executed  only  fay  brokers  who  do  not  trade  for  tbair  own  account  it 

broXer  trading  Is  an  issue  tor  thea.   Since  moat  futures  Market 
Tjsera  are  commarclala  or  large  institutional  investors  their 
ability  to  ao  choose  cannot  be  doubted,   interestingly,  as  tha 
letters  incorporated  herein  at  Appendix  Z)  demonstrate,  nany  such 
usera  atrongly  py^feir  broXera  who  trade  for  their  account  to 
execute  their  orders. 

nie  second  principal  benefit  of  broker  trading  is  that  It 
adds  substantial  liquidity  to  the  market.   For  example,  over  a 
three  weak  period  in  fourth  quarter  1986   in  the  Exchange's 
Treasury  Bond  futures  contract,  broker  traders  executed  an  avaraga 
of  almost  5fl  000  contracts  per  day  for  their  own  account.   Tha 
Exchange  s  updated  analysisl/  (attached  hereto  as  part  of  Appendix 
3)  ahowa  that  futures  market  liquidity  provided  by  broker  trading 
nay  amount  to  as  much  as  80. Ot  on  a  dally  basis  across  all 
contracts  analyzed  and  as  much  as  S4.0I  in  the  Exchange's  aost 
active  contracts.   Because  broker  traders  are  not  solely 
restrioted  to  trading  for  their  customers,  they  can  trade  for 
their  own  accounts  in  slower  markets,  during  less  active  times  of 
the  day  in  a  given  market,  or  in  any  situation  where  additional 
market  making 

1/  The  study  notes  the  Exchange's  objections  to  tha  definitions 
which  the  CFTC  required  the  Exchanges  to  uaa  for  purposaa  of 
the  data  analyaia.  Therefore,  more  analysis  ia  nacaaaary  to 
verify  tha  accuracy  of  the  data  aa  requested  by  the  CFTC. 


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••rvioca  ar*  iM«dad.  Thua,  tlMr*  ar*  Bor*  buy«rm  and  aallara  in 
cha  sarkata  and  Bora  capital;  this  parmlta  ordara  to  b«  axacutad 
■ora  aaally  and  at  lowai  coat.   Th*  study  axplalna  boe*  fully  tha 
aachanlaaa  by  which  thla  liquidity  la  providad  by  brokac  tradara 
(for  tba  banaf it  of  xJ^   aatkat  uaara) ,  praaanta  furthar  atatlstlca 
daaorlblnq  tha  avtant  of  brokar  trading  activity,  and  axplalna  why 
cartaln  othar  posalbia  aaana  of  providing  aarkat  liquidity  ara  not 
•ubatltutea  for  brokar  trading. 

Brokar  trading  ia  particularly  valuabla  to  tba  Beard  of  Trad* 
bacauaa  of  tha  natura  of  our  aarkata   SsttanalvB  apraadlng 
•etlvlty  haa  charactariiad  tha  contracts  at  tba  Xxchanga  Vhlth 
togathar  with  brokar  trading  haa  baan  a  kay  part  of  thaaa 
particular  aarkata  and  haa  halpad  than  bacoaa  tha  aoat  afficlant 
in  tha  world.   Tha  prica  relatlonahlpa  anong  tha  dalivary  aontha 
in  tha  grain  contracta,  for  axanple,  ara  tha  baala  for  hedging 
long  tarn  atoraga  coats,  an  application  of  apraadlng  which  is  an 
intagral  part  of  tha  D.S.  agricultural  Industry.   Likevisa,  tha 
coat  of  carrying  govarnnant  aacurltlea  can  ba  hadgad  through 
apraadlng  in  contracts  such  as  Treasury  Bond  tuturas  at  tha 
Bxchanga.  Tha  rola  of  brokar  tradars  is  particularly  critical  in 
facilitating  Intar-  and  intra-aarkat  spreading,  thus  distributing 
liquidity  serosa  coaaoditlas  and  dalivary  aonths  and  forcing 
bid/ask  spraada  (cuatoaar  casta]  as  low  as  posaibla. 

In  addrasaing  concerns  that  potantlal  trading  abuses  say  bs 
aaaoclatad  with  broker  trading  wa  auat  carefully  differentiate 
batwaan  tha  valuable  practice  of  broker  trading  and  the  potential 
trading  abuses  which  may  use  that  practice  as  a  vehicle.   By 
analogy,  tha  practice  of  check  writing  Is  oceaaionally  abused  by 
aoaa  who  draft  fraudulent  checks.   Restricting  or  prohibiting 
cback  writing  would  not  address  the  abuses,  but  it  would  destroy  ■ 
valuabla,  lagitiDaCa  acononlc  activity.   Ensuring  that  a  sound 
■aans  of  detecting  abuses  Is  in  pL&ca  and  that  a  stringent  set  of 
sanctions  has  bean  defined  and  is  applied  as  appropriate  is  a  mora 
direct  and  logical  approach  to  dealing  with  trading  abuses  than 
the  restrictions  «r  prohibitions  of  broker  trading  which  bobb  hava 
proposed   laportantly,  this  approach  would  not  daaage  narkat 
parforsanca  as  a  broker  trading  curb  vould. 

It  Is  critical  to  keep  in  aind  that  the  Exehanga'a  CTBr-Plna 
aystea  enables  OIA  to  easily  pinpoint  any  Instances  of  abuse. 
Mditlonally,  enhanceaenta  which  have  been  na-de  recently  and  whidl 
ara  planned  in  this  systea  will  furthar  insure  even  greater 
deterrence  of  potential  abuses,  aapacially  given  tha  severe 
penalties  which  are  applied  if  auch  trading  atauaaa  ara  datactad. 
This  self -regulatory  ayaten  lAich  conbinas  ease  of  datactlon  vitb 
strict  penalties  provides  an  affactiva  datarrant  of  potantlal 
abuses  which  may  be  associated  with  brokar  trading  at  tha 
exehangaa. 


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The  exparlanca  of  the  doBeetic  grain  Harkcts  (principally 
corn,  vheat,  BoybeanB  and  oats)  from  1983  to  dat*  is  a  vivid 
illustration  of  one  aspect  of  broker  trading's  value.   Beginning 
in  1984,  these  aarkets  experienced  a  "depresBion*  characterized  by 
abundant  donestic  supply  and  stable  prices.   For  the  futures 
■arkets,  this  situation  meant  vastly  decreased  need  to  hedge  rialc 

since  cash  market  price  risk  wa*  reduced)  and,  consequently, 
decreased  futures  market  volu>a.   For  four  years,  floor  brokers 
and  independent  traders  experienced  a  "drought*  of  business  and 
concomitant:  decreased  opportunity  to  eatn  a  living.   Many  were 
forced  to  leave  the  pit;  some  wsrA  forced  to  a«ll  their 
memberships.   Then,  suddenly  In  1988  the  draught  markat  greatly 
Increased  price  uncertainty  thus  the  need  to  hedge  price  risk 
exploded  virtually  overnight.   Mltb  that  need  came  increased 
futures  orders  and  volune. 

Critically,  had  brokers  not  Iseen  able  to  trade  for  their  own 
accounts  during  the  1984,  1989,  1986  and  19B7  markets,  many  more 
would  have  been  forced  to  leave  the  pit  and  seek  their  living 
elsewhere   Had  that  happened,  the  1988  market  users  would  have 
found  few  Lf  any,  experienced  brokers  to  execute  their  orders  and 
vastly  reduced  market  liguldity. 

Futures  markets  are  not  Indestructable;  they  are  highly 
fragile.   Banning  broker  trading  could  well  sat  America  up  to  lose 
Its  ability  to  price  its  own  caBOMditias;  the  experience  of 
19S4-19BS  markets  vividly  shows  how  that  could  occur. 

However  confident  the  Board  of  Trade  is  regarding  the  value 
of  broker  trading  and  the  ability  Co  detect  and  punish  potential 
abuses,  ws  recognize  that  the  public  debate  generated  concerning 
the  subject  requires  careful,  professional  analysis   For  that 
reason,  the  Exchange  has  retained  Dr.  Sanford  Grossman  the  John 
1,  Weinberg  Professor  of  Economics  at  Princeton  University,  to 
complete  a  detailed,  empirical  study  of  broker  trading   Dr. 
SroKsman  is  a  world -renowned  market  expert  who  anong  other  recent 
duties,  vas  a  primary  contributor  to  the  report  of  former  U  S. 
Attorney  General  Nicholas  de  B.  Katzenbach  to  the  ttew  York  £tock 
Exchange  following  the  October  1987  stock  market  crash   Dr. 
Grossman's  preliminary  findings  are  expected  soon;  detailed 
empirical  analysis  and  a  final  report  are  currently  scheduled  to 
be  completed  within  sin  months  thereafter. 

Hith  expert  analysis  such  as  that  provided  by  Dr.  Grossman, 
congress  will  be  able  to  m*sa   better  the  true  value  of  broker 
trading  to  our  vibrant  but  fragile  futures  aerkets.   Anaed  with 
such  background,  ve  should  all  be  in  a  position  to  dstemlne  what 
Modification,  if  any,  is  necessary.   In  so  doing,  we  must  also 
carefully  evaluate  the  differences  in  different  markets. 


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I  to  Mcchang*  and  avMi  vlthin  dlf 
.  I.     Th«r«far*,   only  through   ■BansgcBant  by  obl*ctlva"   -  th* 
■•ttlng  of  ultlBat«  goAl-a  to  ba  acliieved   by  a   variety  of  B«ana  - 
can  ragulatlon  in   this  critical  araa   Cunction  wiChout  risking 
Irravaralbla  dasags  to  Uia  aarkata        Sine*  wa  all  abara  tba  ommbb 
objactlva  of  honasi:     liquid,    officiant   tuturaa  sailMta,    tha 
Kxchango  ia  confidant  Uiat  a  ■anagaaant-by-objactlTa  ragulatotY 
approach  for  hroXar  trading  will  work  aa  wwll  as  tliia  appraadt 
workad  in  19l«  whan  tha  CPTC  adoptad  It  for  tha  audit  trail 

Exchanaa    Survalllanca    Enhancaaanta 

Tba  Board  of  Trade  s  markat  aurvaillanc*  cyataM,    CTIt-PLOa,    la 
built  upon  tba  world  s  finest  audit  trail,   CTtt.      Ragardlass  of 
thalr  axcallanca,    CTS  and  CTR-PLUS  are  new  systeae,    fully 
operational  only  since  .July     1987.      Therefore,    independent  of 
recent  events,    the  Exchange  haa  been  evaluating   inprovaaanta  and 
anhancenents  to  the  ayatea       These  recant   intensified  conlttaa 
reviews  have  already  resulted  in  Board  approval  of  the  folliwing 
significant  anhancenents  to  tha  ayataaa; 

(1)     cnt-HiUI  Bov  rarlawa  ararr  trade  tzaBaaata4  as  tba' 


Originally,    ,   CTR-PLOfl  waa  craatad   (aa  ara  all  standard  audit 
systems)    to  ravisw  a  salactad,    atatlstically  valid  aaaple  of  data 
rather  than  tha  antira  data  base.     Recant  technical  sdvancea  and 
OUT   long-standing  coHaltaent  to   iaprovenent  have  now  resultad  ill 
tha  expansion  of  CTR-PLUS  review  to  every   trade  transacted  in  tba 
Exchange's  narkets.      This  Uauld  ba  equivalent  to  the  Internal 
Sevenue  Service  auditing  every  taxpayer's  ratum  rather  than  tba 
statistically  valid   sanple  which    it  does       Tba  result  should  b« 
not  only  greater  effectiveness  of  trade  practice  surveillanca,    bat 
alae  greater  deterrence  to  any  potential  abusars. 

I  ■llIloB  dollars  for  cn  rai 

Sophisticated,    affective  survaillanca  systeos  require  tba 
investnent  of   both  expertise  and  capital.      The  developnent  of  CTB 
and  CTV-FLUS  was  never  hindered  by  budget  restrictions. 
NevertheleBs     to   further  enhance  the  systems  will   require 
additional  funds.      The  Billion  dollar   fund  approved  by  the  B6ard 
evidences  the  Exchange's  coaaltaant  to  continued  systas 


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Tb*  •ffaet:lv«naB*  of  CTR-PLDS  is  In  part  dapandant  upon  th« 

tiaa-brackat  parioda  usad  by  floor  tradara  to  tiaa  trades. 
Currantly,  thirty  (30)  minute  bracket  parloda  ara  required.  Tbm 
Board  baa  approvad  reducing  those  periods  to  fictaan  (IS)  ■inuCaa, 
a  aigniflcant  Inproveaant.   As  a  result,  tha  alraady  bigh  accuracy 
rat«  of  cnt  ti>as  should  iaprova  even  furthar. 

2iTa 

A  aubstantial  portion  of  tha  volu«a  in  any  markat  occur* 
during  the  opening  and  closing  periods   To  further  iaprova  tha 
audit  trail  and  surveillance  of  thea*  critical  periods,  tha  Board 
haa  approved  separate  five  (S)  ainut*  brackets  for  these  critical 
periods  of  trading. 


The  CTR  and  CTR-PLDS  systeas  rely  in  part  upon  tha  accuracy 
of  trade  data  reflected  on  a  floor  trader'*  individual  trading 
cards   The  accuracy  of  those  systems  will  be  further  enhanced  by 
Board  approval  of  new  requirements:   (1)  all  trading  card  records 
must  ba  accountod  for;  (2)  all  trading  cards  must  be  collected  by 
clearing  firas  on  an  hourly  basis  and  time -stamped;  and  (i)  all 
trades  must  ba  subalttad  to  tha  Clearing  House  within  one  hour  of 
collactlon.   These  steps  will  not  only  enhance  tha  audit  trail  and 
surveillanc*  systavs,  but  the  clearing  process  as  wall. 

(•}  CTS-PLm  has  baaa  teohuo logically  anbanead. 

Being  a  cooputerized  systav,  cnt-PLUS  is  abla  to  ba  laprovad 
by  technological  Innovations  and  enhancements.   Tha  Board  has 
approved  several  such  enhancements  to  CTR-PLUS  including:   (1)  an 
expanded  relational  -data  base  to  permit  more  rapid  investigations 
of  trading  activities  extending  back  In  time  (I.e.  expanding  from 
a  "snapshot"  of  trading  activity  to  permit  an  investigator  to 
scroll  over  an  extended  period  of  trading  activity);  (2)  expansion 
of  the  number  and  nature  of  surveillance  tests  conducted  on  a 
routine  basis;  (3)  use  of  expert  systems  technology  which  will 
permit  Investigators  to  quickly  design  prograna  to  specific  needs; 
and  (4)  expanded  storage  capacity  which  will  perait  rapid  access 
to  one  year's  data.   These  technological  enhancements  should  spead 
Investigations  and  Increase  the  efficiency  of  professional 
investigator  resources. 


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A  critical  alaawit  ot  CTR  and  CTR-PLU8  in  accurata  timmm. 

Currantly,  thara  is  no  raquirsaant  that  tha  hundrada  of  Bxcbanga 
trading  floor  clocka  which  ara  u»ad  t-o  tlsa  ataap  cuatoaar  ordara 
ba  aynchronliad  to  within  tan-a*cond  inCarvala  acroaa  tha  floor; 
tbarafora,  ainor  dlscrapanclea  in  tlnaa  can  occur  whicb  nay  affect 
cm  logic.  Tha  Board  haa  approvad  synchroniEing,  at  conaldarabla 
coat,  all  trading  floor  cloclca  to  ona  aaatar  clock  to  inaura 
unifora,  accurmt*  ti>a  infarmatlon  baing  input  into  Cnt. 

I  bav*  b*«a  addad  t«  anhaaea 

Aa  BOtad  pcavlously.  the  Exchange  regarda  the  self -regulatory 
:aaa  to  ba  «volutionary,  not  static.   OIA  currently  soploya  a 
wida  ir«riety  of  axcellant  conputer  programoars  to  assist  their 
surveillance  and  investigative  efforts.   However,  those  efforts 
can  ba  enhanced  by  the  addition  of  new  staff  dedicated  solely  to 
Improving  existing  programs  and  writing  naw  onaa   The  Board  * 
approval  of  five  (5)  additional  prograaaars  will  graatly  anhanca 
OIA' a  aetortB. 

offica  rnvaatloatlona  and  Audit  Enhancaaanta 


OZA's  staff  bas  always  nalntainad  tha  highest  dagrea  at 

professional isn  and  efficiency.   Because  training  for  OIA  staff 
poaitiona  aftactively  occurs  only  at  tbe   Exchange,  hiring 
qualified  personnel  and  training  then  expeditiously  is  a  constant 
challenge.   Tha  Board  has  recognized  that  additional  professional 
parsoTuial  to  support  OIA's  afforta  will  enhance  all  of  DIA'a 
aCforta.   Tharafora,  tha  Board  haa  approved  a  thirty  percent  (30%) 
incraaaa  of  OIA  profaaaional  ataff  ovar  19B8  budgetary  levels. 


Tha  Lagal  Dapartaant  of  tha  Exchanga  providaa  lagal  counaal 
to  OIA  aa  It  doaa  all  Exchange  departments.  Nhila  all  attomaya 
are  involved  in  tha  self -regulatory  process,  previously  only  ona 
attorney  was  saaignad  to  exclusive  OIA  liaison  and  support 
duties   In  consldaration  of  the  inportance  of  Exchange 
disciplinary  actions,  tha  Board  has  approved  trlplltig  dIA  ■  lagal 
support  to  encompass  three  attorneys  whose  afforta  ara  devoted 
entirely  to  supporting  OIA.   This  increased  aupport  will  incraaaa 
the  efficient  use  of  OIA  staff  efforta. 


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Survaillanc*  and  •nCorcsnant  techniques  tor   futur«i  wukatB 
ar«  »ac*   an  areano  -art  than  a  precise  science  Tbm   b*at  training 
for  n«w  OIA  staff  is  by  existing  OIA  staff  and  Exchanga  Aenbers. 
Hsvartheless,  soae  Invastigativ*  tachniques  are  coamon  to  nany 
■arkata.   Tharafora,  tha  Board  has  approved  institution  of  special 
training  program*  in  invoatlgation  techniqusa  for  OIX  ataff  to  be 
conductad  by  non-Exchange  professional  consultants   The 
additional  training  should  enhancs  OIA's  existing  axcallant 
invaatigation  efforts. 

CU)  OU  floor  •urveillaBoa  tiB«  has  Man  laoxaaaad. 

Given  tba  conjecture  that  Che  grand  jury  Investigation  la 
concerned  with  potential  floor  trading  abuses,  some  question  has 
been  raised  reg-arding  whether  an  increased  presence  of  OIA 
investigative  personnel  on  the  Exchange  trading  floor  would 
enhance  detection  of  trading  abuses  and  provide  an  incraasad 
datarancB  to  potential  abusers.   It  has  been  the  Exchange's 
experience  that  floor  trading  abuses  are  rare  at  tha  Board  of 
Trade  and  that  uhen  they  do  occur,  tbay  ara  sophisticated  and 
subtle  enough  to  be  detected  best  by  fallow  traders  and/or 
sophisticated  computer  Burvelllance  such  as  CTR-PLUS. 
Havertheiesa,  the  Board  has  authorized  additional  dedication  of 
OIA  investigators  to  trading  floor  presence  and  observation. 
Although  the  returns  on  such  an  Investaent  of  valuable  resources 
>ay  be  small,  public  confidanc*  in  floor  trading  intagrlty  aakas 
such  aCCorts  worthwhile. 

Board  of  Directors  Composition 

The  Exchange's  Board  is  currently  a  diversified,  expert  body 
consisting  of  twenty-four  (24)  representatives  (roa  all  aspects  of 
tha  nembership,  industry  and  general  public.   The  Rules  of  the 
Exchange  require  and  foster  that  diversity.   For  example.  Rule 
102.00  requires  that  the  committee  which  nominates  Director 
candidates  ■...  give  special  consideration  to  the  desirability  of 
having  all  Interests  of  the  Association  represented  on  the 
Board."  Moreover,  the  Nominating  committee  itself  is  elected  from 
the  diverse  Exchange  membership  which  includes  Individual  traders, 
FCHs  broXer-dealers,  banks,  comaarcial  firms,  institutional 
Invastors  and  others. 


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(1>  tbr**  (3)  noii-a«Bb«rm  txam   thB  7anar*l  public  svctor 
(which  bav*  includad  •  forMr  Dnitad  Stat«s  Attomay  Cmmt*!, 
a  IlaB»«l  Prii*  vlnning  •conovlBti,  th*  chairman  of  a  national 
agricultural  association  and  otbar  alailar  nationally 
raapactad  public  f Iffuraa) ; 

(3)  thras  (3)  non-realdant  aaabcra  vbo,  balng  raquirad  to 
bava  thair  principal  placa  a£  biuinaa*  Bora  than  fifty  (SO) 
■ilaa  froB  Chicago,  aCfactivaly  ar«  quaal-public  Diractorai 

(3)  sicht  (8)  Haabar  Director!  who  arm   currantly  prlnclpala 
or  offlcara  of  aambar  firxs  and  thiu  rapraaant  tba 
fCH/bcokar-daalar  connunity; 

(4)  alx  (6)  oiractors  whosa  principal  occupation  ia  aa 
brokars  axacuting  cuatoaar  ordara  on  tha  floor  of  tba 
Bxchanga; 

(9)  thraa  (3)  individual  *aMbara  whoaa  principal  occupation 
is  as  activa  tradars  on  tha  floor  of  tha  CKchanga  for  thair 
parsonal  accounts  (i.a.  ■  "local"  tradar) ;  and 


Any  critlclsB  of  tha  Exchanga'a  Board  as  baing  biasad  toward 
aombers  or  one  aspact  of  tha  ■aabarahlp  is  sisply  contrary  to  tba 
facts  Furthermore,  prasant  Rulas  and  policlas  will  insur* 
continued  diversity  of  raprasantation;  no  naw  rulas  or  lagislatlon 
are  raquirad. 


As  described  previously,  the  Board  of  Dlractora  sits  aa  tha 
ultlxata  disciplinary  body  of  the  Exchange,  either  in  an  appellate 
capacity  or  by  referral  fron  a  coaslttee.   Historically,  the  Board 
has  always  found  Its  authority  to  suspend,  expel  and  otherwise 
sanction  to  be  nor*  than  adequate.   However,  with  tha  growth  of 
institutionaLlied  trading  and  the  consolidation  ot  «e»ber  rima, 
tba  Board  concluded  that  its  current  fining  authority  lS75,0OO  par 
violation]  nay  not  be  sufficient  in  all  instances  to  adequately 
sanction  abuses  especially  where  larger  capitalized  respondents 
ara  Involved.   Therefore  the  Board  has  approved  for  a  ■aabarship 
ballot  vote  increasing  Its  fining  authority  sore  than  tbraa 
hundred  percent  (300%)  to  5390,000  par  violation. 


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(14)  *k«  Board  ha*  x—ttixm»a   tbrangh  farmal  Mselutloa  ita 
leng-asiBtlBQ  pollay  «e  •selvdiB?  ■•■bMCa  «ltb  hlataciaa  of 
•IgnifleaBt  trad*  pcaetiea  abosas  txom  partlelpatioa  an  tha  Board 
and  aajor  Biehaaga  dlaeipllaarr  ooMBittoos. 

Ttia  Board  has  long  had  a  policy  barring  scabars  with  a 
history  of  algnlflcsnt  trade  practioa  aanctiona  froa  participation 
on  tha  Board  Itaalf  or  on  althar  of  the  Exchange's  major 
diaclplinary  cooalttaas  the  floor  Governors  and  the  Buslneaa 

Conduct  coBwittaea   The  Exchange  is  committed  to  maintaining  tba 
atBoat  intagricy  of  tha  salC-regulatory  disciplinary  process  and 
thoaa  who  administer  it.   To  insure  that  there  is  no  doubt 
concaming  this  continuing  comaltmant,  the  Board  has  approved  a 
tonal  resolution  approved  by  tha  Exchange's  Rules  Committee 
reaffirming  and  formalizing  this  lang-exlsting  policy. 

Floor  Practice  Enhancements 

Tha  Board  of  Trade  has  hiatorically  adopted  all  ita  Rulaa, 
especially  trade  practice  rules,  to  meat  tha  highaat  atandarda  of 
both  Integrity  and  Darkat  efficiency.   Existing  rules  proscribe 
unjust  and  inegultabls  trada  practicas,  forbid  trading  ahead  of 
customer  orders,  insure  that  any  profit  resulting  from  the 
arroneoua  execution  of  o  custonor  order  goes  to  the  customer, 
prohibit  pre-arranged  and  acconnodation  trades,  as  well  as 
prohibit  all  other  forma  of  trada  abuse.   The  Exchange  believes 
that  these  axistinq  Rulaa  are  aora  than  sufficient  to  deal  with 
all  potential  trade  practice  abuses   Nevertheless  as  part  of  Che 
on-going  review  of  all  Exchange  operations,  the  Board  haa  approved 
several  enhancements  to  floor  piactica  regulation. 

(!■>  kll  broker  aasoeiation*  wamt   ba  cagiatarad  with  tha 


Associatians  of  floor  brokers  sharing  profits,  expanses  and 
loaaaa  —   particularly  with  the  inclusion  of  local  tradara  —  do 
not  exiat  at  tha  Board  of  Trade  to  the  best  of  the  Bxcbange's 
knowledge.   Such  associations  do  exist  at  other  Exchanges  and 
present  those  Exchanges  with  unique  self -regulatory  challenges  to 
insure  market  integrity.   The  potential  for  abuse  of  cuatoaer 
ordars  and  market  efficiency  due  to  broker  groups  is,  therefore, 
not  present  at  tha  Board  of  Trada-' 

However,  some  independent  brokara  at  tha  Exchange  do  share 
order  decks  to  facilitate  customer  order  execution  especially  in 
options  contracts  where  liquidity  in  deep  out-of-the-money  options 
ia  thin   Others  share  the  expense  of  common  clerks.   To  insure 
that  these  arrangements  do  not  evolve  into  potentially  abusive 
ones,  the  Board  baa  approved  that  all  associations  of  brokers 
which  share  income  must  register  with  the  Exchange  providing 
certain  information  to  enhance  surveillance  of  their  activitlaa. 


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TIM  Board  ia  co^lttad  to  pravcnting  any  potwitial  abua*  of 
custoasr  ordttra  which  would  raault  froa  th«  ocbarwla*  lAgltiaat* 
busliMKa  ralatlmtahipa  of  BMibar  floor  brolc*r*> 


Markat-on-eloa*  ordars     If   antarad    lata,    can  craat*  problaa* 
in  Bchlaving  sn   atflcianC,  Aarrow  and  accurata  cloalnq  ran^a. 
Etflciant  cloalng   ran^aa  ara  aaaanttal    Co  tba  coasarclal   uaac;*  Of 
futuraa  contracts,    aapecially  aa  a  pricing  aachaniaa  for  oaah 
Mrkat  tranaactiona.      Tha   addition  of   tha  aodiflad  cloalng  call 
provtdaa  At\  opportunity  tor  auch  lata  antarad  ordara  to  ba 
coaplatad  and  ior  individual  floor  tradar*  to  'evan-up*  attar 
providing  liquidity  tor  doaing  ordera       Alsoi   a  aora  atficLant 
doainq  ranga  facilitatas  •  aor*  accurata  sattlaaant  prica  which 
fraquantly  ia  tha  baais  Cor  caah  varkat  pricing. 

Haw  Regulation   1007.02  would  aatabliah  an  additional 
two-ainuta  trading  parlod    for  all   contracta  at  tha  concluaion  Of 
trading  aaaalona.      During   thia  parlod,    tranaactiona  could  t9km 
placa  only  at  pricaa  within  tha  pravioualy  aatabLlahad  closing 
ranga       Ito  naw  ordara  could  antar  tha  pit     but  cancallationa  would 
ba  paraittad       Stop  ordara  and  liait  ordara  alactad  by  tha  elo«iag 
rah^a  could  ba  fillad  during  thia  pariod 

Tba  Bxdtanga  baliavaa  that  tha  aatabllahnant  of  a  ■odifiad 
eloalng  call  will  banafit  public  custoners  tor  a  nunbar  ot 
raaaona.      Firat,    aora  etticiant  cloaing  rangaa  banafit  caab  Barkat 
pricing.      Additionally,    bacaus*  tha  naw  procadura  will  anabla 
individual   floor  tradcra  aora  raadily  to  adjuat  their  poaitiona 
(to  "avan-up")      thay  wiU.  ba  Doro  willing  to  provide   liquidity  to 
the  cloaing  public  ordara  at  tha  aoat  coopatitiva  pricaa. 
Finally,    no  trada  nade  during  tha  noditiad  cloaing  call  would  ba 
advantaged  ovar  thoaa  made  pravioualy   in  tha  aarkat  due  to  tha 
raatrlctlon  of  pricaa  to  thoae  aatablishad  previously  by  the 
Cloaing  range. 

Tha  Ixebanga  alao  notaa  that  tha  audit  trail  for  ttia  moAUlmi 
cloaing  call  will  ba  pracisa  bacaus*  tha  closing  call  pariod  Kill 
rscaiv*  a  saparat*  CTR  dasignation,   thereby  enhancing  tha 
I'B  Burvaillanea  capabilitiss  tex  thia  pariod. 


Floor  clarka  ara  raaponaibla  for  tha  clerical  handling  of 
eustoaar  ordara  and  other  trade  docu>anta.      Nhila  having  no 
trading  prlvilagas,    clarka  ara  naverthalaaa  intisataly  invalvad  in 
tha  trading  procaaa.      Bacauaa  of  that   involvaaant,    darks  ara 
often  ta^tad  to  trad*  for  their  own  account.     Mhila  su^  trading 


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has  historically  ■•rvad  as  a  valuable  »«an*  of  apprantlcsshlp 
training  to  bsc^M  a  asabsr,  tha  Board  has  dstaralnwd  that  tba 
rights  of  ■•■bsrship  trading'  aust  b*  rastrtctsd  to  thos*  who  pass 
Um  Intanslvs  HaBbsrshlp  admission  proosss.  niarafor*,  th«  Board 
has  approved  prohibiting  floor  elarks  froa  salntalning  trading 


Additional  Technoloatcal  Enhai 

Ttia  Board  of  Trads  tiaa  not  Ilnited  tachnologlcal  Innovation 
to  the  craatlon  of  CTR  and  CTR-Plua   Tha  Board  of  trad*  is  on*  of 
Um  most  technologically  advanced  narketplaces  in  tha  world.   Two 
aspects  of  that  technological  supraaacy  ar«  worth  noting  in  the 
prasant  contaict. 

(lf>  Tka  BxobOBga's  alaotxeala  oxdax-antry  sr'taa  (-tOB-i 
will  not  OBlT  inaraaa*  tha  aff iolaaor  of  austoaar  ordar  axaoutlan  - 
sad  olaariag,  bvt  also  tha  aeeuraof  at  cm. 

For  aany  aonths,  long  bstor*  tha  current  news  of  a  grand  jury 
inveatigatlcin,  tha  Board  of  Trade  hai  bean  developing  an  advanced, 
electronic  order-entry  systea  ("EOS'  .   Electronic  order-entry 
vill  speed  coasunication  of  custoner  orders  to  the  trading  floor, 
expedite  conlirmation  of  execution  back  to  the  customer,  and 
Bubnit  trades  for  clearing  directly.  These  enhanced  efficiencies 
■will  not  only  sirvo  custonera  better  and  reduce  fCM  enpensea,  they 
will  also  provide  a  coaputerited  record  of  custoDsr  orders  vith 
tlB*s  accurate  to  the  second.   This  enhanced  tinlng  will  Inprove 
the  accuracy  of  the  CTR  audit  trail  and,  therefore,  tile  efficiency 
of  the  CTR-Plua  surveillance  systea. 

Approved  by  the  Exchange  membership  or 
is  now  on  a  prototype  basis.  As  use  of  the 
of  CTR  data  will  be  enhanced  even  further. 


Juat  as  EOS  will  enhance  custoaer  order  tiae  data,  a 
hand-held  computer  teminal  to  replace  trading  cards  would  not 
only  provide  on-line  clearing  of  trades  but  also  unimpeachable 
trade  execution  timing  to  tha  nearest  second   However  n-O  current 
technology  exists  to  create  such  A  device  for  use  in  the  auction 
varket.   For  this  reason,  the  Board  has  approved  significant 
expenditures  of  Exchange  staff  and  aember  committee  tine  to  work 
with  outside  profasaionals  in  developing  such  a  teralnal  to  aaat 
the  needs  of  our  markets.   Preliminary  work  has  already  begun. 
Hopefully,  these  efforts  will  lead  to  tha  developaent  of  suitable 
technology  within  a  fav  ahort  years. 


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On  July  13,  19S9,  ChalrBan  BrKilish  and  R*pr*a«ntativaB 
COlaowfi  and  Penny  introducad  th*  'Coaaodity  ruturaa  Inprava&entB 
Act  of  t9«»,"  B.K.  ia«9  (attachad  harato  at  Appandix  4).   Tha  bill 
propoaaa  to  (uiand  ttia  CoBBodtty  Bxchang*  Act  ( Intar  siia)  to 
idprov*  tba  ragulation  of  futuraa  and  option*  trading,  raatrlct 
potential  cuatoaar  abusaa,  ralnCorca  davalopmant  of  axcbanga  audit 
trails  and  astabllah  Itighar  atandard*  for  ■•rvlca  on  govamlng 
board*  and  diaclpllnary  comMittaaa  of  aalf  Tsqulatory 
orqanisstlona. 

Durinq  *  Juna  39,  1989  praa*  eonfaranoa  praoadlng  tba 
introduction  of  th«  bill,  Chairaan  English  noted  that  this 
Subcomalttee's  inquiry  'found  that  the  systea  aa  a  whole  ia  aound" 
and  that  "the  real  90BI  ia  to  produce  strong  Incantivat  to  tha 
industry  so  that  wa  can  protect  against  these  kind  of  vton^a." 
Rapraaantatlva  Colaaan  statad  that  tba  focua  of  thia  pr^ioaad  bill 
ia  tha  "raatoratlon  of  intagrity  which  baa  baan  qiMstionad  by  tha 
■adia  and  cuatoaers." 

Tha  Chicago  Board  of  Trade  conoura  wholeheartedly  tn  the 
objactlvas  of  the  bill  and  the  approach  of  providing  incentives  to 
the  industry  to  protect  against  potential  market  obuaas.   Howsver, 
several  provisions  of  the  bill  present  seriously  -daaaging 
approaches  to  achieving  our  conmon  objectives.   If  enacted  these 
proposals  could  prevent  U.S  futures  aarkets  froa  aarving  their 
public  interests  and  seeting  successfully  the  challenge  of  foreign 
conpetition.   Therefore  we  urge  tha  Subcoaalttee  to  re-axaaine 
and  revise  several  proposals,  especially  those  relating  to  dual 
trading  and  audit  traila. 


R.R.  3889  proposas  (in  pertinent  part)  amending  Section  4j(l) 
of  the  CEA  (7  D.S.C.  <j)  to  prohibit  dual  trading  by  a  floor 
broker  In  any  contcact  market  trading  in  excess  of  7,000  contracta 
per  day  baaad  On  a   six  month  aoving  average.  Tha  CPTC  aay 
Incraaae  or  decrease  that  threshold  level  based  upon  a 
deteraination  that  the  prohibition  upon  dual  trading  craataa 
undesirable  price  volatility,  unacceptable  widening  of  bld-aak 
spreada  or  otherwise  threatens  the  public  Interest. 

under  Section  (D),  tba  bill  proposes  to  permit  the  Coamlaeion 
to  axaopt  a  board  of  trade  from  tha  dual  trading  prohibition  if 
the  exchange  can  denonstrata  to  tha  Comalssion  that  tha  Bxobanga'a 
audit  trail  can  detect  "any  and  all  instances  of  trading 
violations  which  the  comDiseion  determines  to  be  attributable  to 
dual  trading  and  la  ttf^lY  verifiable."   (^phaaia  added.) 


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section  (C)  at   tha  bill  raquir**  tti*  Comlaslen  to 
paricKlieally  detamlna  whathar  dual  trading  should  b«  p«raitt«d 
and,  1(  so,  undar  what  taraa  -and  condition*.  Cor  thoa«  contract 
narkata  trading  balow  the  7,000  contract  per  day  level.   Section 
(BJ  oC  the  bill  seta  forth  tha  detsminatlons  tha  Caeaiaalon  Miet 
malca  in  thoae  contract  markata  where  dual  trading  is  prohibited. 
subsection  (vil)  providea  a  floor  broker  nay  dual  trade  if  a 
custoner  designates  an  individual  floor  broker  by  naa*  in  writing 
on  at  least  an  annual  basis. 

Initially,  any  proposal  to  ban  dual  trading  aboold  be  studied 
carefully  subject  to  extensive  expert  input.   Ae  diaeussed 
previously,  dual  trading  providea  a  valuable  narket  function  which 
should  not  be  BUBnarlly  abrogated  without  eirtenelva  input  and 
evaluation.   At  a  eininuB,  thia  Subcommittee  should  review, 
consider  and  have  hsarlnga  regarding  the  CoDmiseion's  study  of 
dual  trading  as  wsll  as  those  of  other  experts  in  tha  field. 

Assueing  the  subconnlttea  deena  It  necessary  to  proceed 
without  the  benefit  of  such  background,  any  restriction  of  dual 
trading  should  be  predicated  principally  upon  tha  ability  of  the 
Exchange  to  detect  potential  abuses.   The  audit  trail  exemption 
contemplated  by  subsection  (D)  of  H-R.  2869  provides  the  framework 
for  such  an  approach.   However,  the  specific  provisions  contained 
In  the  bill  provide  an  unrealistic  and  unworkable  standard  for 
conditioning  dual  trading. 

By  requiring  the  audit  trail  to  detect  "any  and  all" 
potential  dual  trading  abuses  and  be  "fully"  verifiable,  the  bill 
eatabllBhes  a  standard  of  perfection  unobtainable  in  the  real 
world.   Instead  tha  bill  should  be  modified  to  reflect  the 
objective  of  excellence  shared  as  a  goal  by  Congress,  the 
Commission  and  the  entire  industry.   The  current  industry  audit 
trail  is  the  best  in  the  world.   The  Subcoiiuilttse  should  not  lose 
sight  of  the  system's  existing  excellence  by  insisting  on 
unattainable  perfection. 

Improvements  and  enhancements  are  possible.   Included  herein 
is  a  detailed  description  of  an  exteneive  prograa  of  such  audit 
trail  enhancements  already  implemented  by  the  Bxcbange.   These 
enhancements  will  achieve  the  bill's  objective  of  Improved  audit 
trails  (an  objective  shared  by  the  Board  of  Trade)  without 
presenting  the  potential  for  the  destruction  of  contzact  earkat 
liquidity. 

The  bill's  audit  trail  exeeption  should  be  revised  to  be  more 
realistic  without  sacrificing  the  coneon  objective  of  aaxinuB 
detection  of  potential  trade  abuses.   Such  revisions  should 
Include  the  following: 


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(I)  prohibit  dual  trading  unl«*s  an  axchaima.can  davonatrat* 
that  its  audit  trail  la  variriabl*  to  tha  naaraat  ainuta  to  at 
laaat  tlM  901  laval  aa  datanlnad  during  tha  CFTC'e  parlodlc  rula 
anforcasant  raviaws; 

(3)  thoa*  brokara  whoaa  cuatoaara  hava  axpraaaly  raquirad  In 
writing  that  thair  brokar*  ehall  not  dual  trada  will  ba  prohlbltad 
froB  dual  trading;  and 

(3)   ahould  an  axchanga  Cail  to  achiava  tha  audit  trail 
partoraanca  standard  dual  trading  will  ba  prohlbltad  in  thoaa 
contract  aonths  which  do  not  attain  tha  standard  until  covpllanca 
can  ba  deaonstratad  unless  tha  contract  Month  dlaplaya  low 
liquidity.   Tha  prohibition  will  not  apply  to  those  brokar*  who 
ara  predoninantly  spraad  brokars.   For  purposaa  of  thia 
prohibition,  a  Bavbar  la  claaaltiad  aa  a  brokar  or  a  tradar  on  a 
dally  basis  and,  Intra-day   ia  not  classifiad  a  brokar  until  ha 
aakaa  his  first  cuatooer  trada  of  the  day   This  prciiibitlon 
applias  by  separate  contract  ncnth,  tor  futuras  and  options 
contracts  separately.   Henbsrs  handling  custoaar  ordars 
functioning  in  a  clerical  capacity  shall  ba  daaaad  to  ba  brokara 
for  purposas  of  this  rula. 

If  thasa  ravlsiona  ara  adoptad,  tha  coMMon  objactiv*  of  audit 
trail  anhancaaant  and  datactlon  of  potantial  dual  trading  abusas 
can  and  will  ba  aat.   Crltfcally,  this  comon  objactivs  will  ba 
■at  without  risking  tha  daatruction  of  aarkat  liquidity  and  Uw 
loss  of  JMarican  lurlcata  to  toraign  coapatitors. 

Audit  Trails 

Section  aoi  of  tha  bill  proposas  (in  partinant  part)  to  a>«nd 
Sactlon  4g{l)  of  tha  CEA  <7  U  S  c  Eg)  by  raqulring  that  tha  trad* 
tiaa  axacution  raquired  by  the  section  ba  varifiabla  and  statad 
within  a  ona  ninuta  increment  within  one  yaar  of  anactaant  and  a 
thirty  (30)  aacond  increnent  within  three  (3]  yaara  of  anactaant. 
Paragraph  (b]  of  tha  bill  amends  Section  5  o{  CE& 
(7  U.S.C.  7)  to  condition  contract  aarkat  atatua  upon  this 
raquiraaant. 

As  statad  aarllar,  tha  Board  of  Trada  sharaa  tha 
Subcommittee's  desire  to  hava  tha  best  audit  trail  obtainabla 
which  does  not  nagativaly  Impact  the  functioning  of  the  marXat. 
Bequiring  standards  unobtainabla  by  present  technology  only  sats 
up  tha  aarkec  place  for  failure,  to  the  detriment  of  all 
involved.   Defarring  tha  requirement  provides  nO  solution  baoauaa 
there  Is  no  assurance  that  technology  will  davalop  auffioiantly  in 
tha  interim  to  maat  tha  standard. 

Tha  Subcommittaa'a  objactlvas  would  ba  batter  aarvad  by 
siaply  raqulring  that  tha  audit  trail  ba  sufficient  to  proparly 
wonitor  tha  market  and  datact  potantial  trading  abumas.   Tha  salf- 


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rttgulatory  axchangaa  and  th*  CaMBlaslon  mxm   in  th*  b««t  position 
to  datarain*  tti«  particular  ap*elflcatlona  of  that  raquirwMnt. 
X*  Chairaan  English  has  atatad,  V^ciaa  audit  trails  and 
raaponalva  tina  raoonstructlon  Cor  trading  ara  abseluta 
nacaaaitiaa  •■•■'  Praolsion  and  rasponsivansss,  than,  sbould  ba 
tha  standard,  not  an  unobtalnabla  fixad  raquirasant. 

SRO  DtatjlpllnarY  Comaittaas 

Th«  bill  proposaa  in  saction  309  to  ajaand  Saction  8c  of  tha 
CUi   <7  D.S.C.  13c}  Co  requira  that  axchanqa  disciplinary 
coBBittaaa  ba  coapriaed  so  that  for  any  glvan  haarlng,  a  aajorlty 
of  tha  haarinq  fianal  ahall  ba  of  ■  dltCarant  trading  atatus  than 
tha  raspondant   Trading  status  is  dlvidad  betwaan  floor  brokar  or 
floor  tradar,  non-tloor  memberB  and  staff  (if  any]. 


praBlse  of  Brit Ish-Anar lean  jurlsprudenca  is  the  requirement  of 
trial  by  one'a  peers.   Tha  conmittae's  proposal  laqislates 
precisely  the  opposite:  trial  by  those  guarantaad  to  ba  unfaalliar 
and  IneKparlenced  with  the  standards  applicable  to  the 
respondent's  conduct  and  the  conditions  under  which  the 
respondent  ■  actions  were  taken.   For  example,  if  the  respondent 
i«  a  broker  in  the  cOrri  futures  pit,  he  will  be  judged  by  a  panel 
whoa*  majority  is  not  now  (and  lllcely  never  has  been]  engaged  In 
floor  trading  of  Com  futures,  far  less  brokering  in  that 
contract   Hot  only  is  floor  trading  Itself  (and  brokering  in 
particular]  a  unique  and  complex  activity,  customs  and  practices 
■ay  wall  vary  avan  akong  diCEareot  contracts. 

Surely  tha  bast  judges  of  ona's  conduct  are  ona'a  paara. 
Given  that,  it  is  contrary  to  reason  and  tha  bast  interests  of  tha 
■arkatplace  to  require  a  disciplinary  panel  to  ba  co^risad  of  a 
majority  of  non-peers. 

Prasmably  thasa  provialons  of  tha  bill  ara  almad  at  rasoving 
the  perception  of  soma  unarticulated  bias  In  tha  current  structure 
of  exchange  disciplinary  panels.   The  Board  of  Trade  is  unaware  of 
any  problaa  of  this  nature,  whether  real  or  perceived.  However 
It  the  Subconmlttae  is  convinced  (for  reaaona  not  evident}  that 
cttangas  must  be  made  to  tha  structure  of  «xchange  disciplinary 
panels,  the  provisions  tor  Board  of  Trade  arbitration  panels 
provida  a   better  model  than  that  proposed  in  tha  bill.   fSee  a^O^., 
Board  of  Trade  Regulation  610  Ol  .   Thosa  rules  provide  that  Civ* 
members  of  the  committee  be  chosen  for  each  exchange  arbitration 
panel  froa  four  major  categories   (1]  floor  traders   3}  floor 
brokers;  (3}  brokerage  firms  and  (4)  commercial  firms   Such  a 
model  presents  significant  problems  in  the  disciplinary  context 
which  are  not  applicable  to  the  arbitration  process. 


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N«VM:tlMl«a«,    it   Is  ■  b«tt«r  aaana  of   iiwurlng  tha  iMa*«»ary 
amqrmm  of  relevant  indiwtxY  •xpartiea  an  a  disciplinary  pansl  tbsn 
tha  provision  of  tha  bill. 

tha  aactlon  alao  providas  that  bchangaa  dany  asabarsbip  on 
tha  Board  of  Slractors  or  any  disciplinary  coaaitcaa  to  thos* 
guilty  of  a   "sajor  vtolaCion  of  any  rula'  viutln  a  p«rio4  of  tias 
to  b*  dacaralnad  by  tha  CoBaiaslon  and  raqulras  tha  class iflcatlon 
of   Exchanga  rulaa   aa   -malor-  or  "minor"   for  this  purpos*. 

laa  no  objaction  to  this  provision;   as  s«t  forth 
[  Trad*  alraady  has  tonwlizad  ita  long-atsndlng 
policy  prohibiting  aambars  with  significant  blstorlas  of  trado 
practlca  abuaaa   troa  Bsmbarahip  on  tha  Board  or  on  Exehangs 
disciplinary  connlttaas.      Sowavsr,    tha  Exctianga  notas  that  tha 
arbitrary  clasalf tcation  of  rula  violations  aa  ">ajar'  and  "minor" 
nay  distort  tha  gravity   of  any  glvan  oCfanse  without  dua 
. consldsratlon   to  tha  facta  of  sach  individual  caaa. 

Brofcar  Aasoeiatioiia 

Sactlon  102  of  tha  bill  proposss  to  amand  Saetlon  4j  of  tha 
CKk   (7  D.S.C.   6j)   to  rastrict  trading  among  brolcsr  asaoclatlons  as 
that  tarm  may  ba  dafinad  by  Coaviasion  ragulstion. 

As  datailad  abova,  brokar  associations  as  thay  axiat  at  othac 
axchanqaa  are  not  coanon  at  tha  Board  of  Trada  and  prasant  no 
prasant  trada  practioa  protalaaa.  Tha  Sxchanga,  howaver  does 
share  the  SubcoBoittea's  concern  that  asaoclatlons  of  brokers  that 
are  established  for  laglti>Bta  bualness  purpoaas  not  ba  paraittad 
to  evolve  into  abusive  antltlas.  Tbarafora,  tha  Bxcbanga  aakas  no 
content  on  thia  proviaion  of  tha  bill  at  this  tima. 

Publtff  Bepraaent^tion  on  Governing  Boarda 

The  bill  propoaaa  to  aaand  Saction  5a  of  tha  CSK  (7  O.a.C. 
7a]    to  require  that  -outside  aasbars"   aa  dafinad  by  tha  CMadsaioa 
conprlaa  at  least  twenty  [Mrcant    (20%)    of  tha  govarning  board  Of 
each  contract  aarkat. 

Sivan  tha  divars*  raprasantatlon  of  th*  UtAsnga'a  Board  of 
Diractor's  as  datailad  above  and  the  rules,   regulations  and 
policias  insuring  that  diversity,   the  Ixcbange  Bakes  no  OMOwnt  at 
this  time  on  this  proviaion  of  the  bill. 


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Baalatratlon  of  floor  1Tad*pa 

Section  305  of  tba  bill  propoaas  to  twand  Saction  3{a)(l] (A) 
of  tha  CEk  (7  O.S.C.  3)  ••■antlally  to  axtand  tha  raqulraaants  at 
floor  brokar  ragl*tration  to  all  floor  tradars. 

In  via*  of  tha  txchanqa'a  rigoroua  ■ 
as  daacribad  abova,  tha  Exchonqa  aaXas  ne 
this  proviaion  of  tha  bill. 

<?th«r  Provlalona  of  H.R.  2969 


CONCLUSION 

Tha  combination  of  sophisticated  conputerized  surveillanc* 
systems  and  the  vastad  sell-intereat  of  the  Exchange's  rigorously 
screened  membership  In  ttie  preservation  of  narlcet  Integrity 
combine  to  create  an  extremely  effective  mechanism  for  Cha 
detection  of  potential  exchange  trading  floor  abuses   Tha  Board 
of  Trade  has  never  condoned    and  does  not  condone  today  —  any 
trade  practice  abuse   Proven  offenders  have  always  baan 
appropriately  sanctionad  (including  Cinas,  suapansions  and 
axpulalons) . 

Navarthalass,  tha  Board  of  Trada  racognlias  that  auccasa  is 
an  avolutionary  procaaa,  not  a  static  ona.   Thus,  despite  craating 
CTR  and  CTR-?LU3  —  tha  world  •  finest  «udit  trail  and 
surveillance  ayataaa  —  tha  Exchange  has  considered  all  «a«na  to 
preserve  and  improve  market  integrity.   The  result  of  the  most 
recent,  intensive  internal  study  ia  th*  twenty  one  (21)  point 
program  of  enhancements  detailed  herein.   These  improvements  (and 
others  still  under  conaideration)  will  insure  that  the  Board  of 
Trade  a  markets  remain  the  world's  most  efficient  liquid  and 
aconoaical  with  tha  hlghaat  degree  of  Integrity  and  profaaalonal 
participation. 

In  considering  these  Issues,  we  urge  this  Subcomnittae  to 
remain  mindful  of  the  potential  (indeed,  likely)  consequences  of 
precipitous,  hastily  oanaiderad  action-   Hhile  currently  the  world 
leader  in  futures  markats,  the  O.S.  could  easily  lose  this  unique 
and  valuable  in'dustry  to  eager  foreign  competitors,  if 
ill'considered  regulation  is  mandated.   Therefore,  critically 
valuable  trade  practices  such  as  broker  trading  must  be  carefully 
evaluated,  especially  where  their  value  is  indisputably  docusentad 
and  no  evidence  exists  regarding  any  abuses. 


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In  faablonlng  uiy  Iwgislation,  this  CoiHitt**  sheold  also 
look  with  prld*  to  tho  procodont  sot  In  l»ts  rogardlng  tbo  awllt 
trail  looiM.  nion,  tho  CFTC  foal  of  oiw-alnnto  tlao 
Idontl  float  ion  waa  loft  to  oach  aaparata  oitehango,  vlth  Its 
dlfforlng  »aaborshlp  and  aarkats,  to  boat  dotoraliM  hew  to  Bsot 
that  qoal.  nta  rosult  oC  thla  Banagaaant-by-objoetlva  approach 
was  tho  craatlen  of  cnt,  tho  world's  flnost  audit  trail.  It 
Congross  acts  slsllarly  now  aftar  earsful  study,  tho  rooult  sbonld 
bo  tho  oontlnuod  iaprovoaont  of  what  ara  alroady  tho  world's  Boot 
honost,  liquid  and  ottlciont  futuroa  oarkots.  Thla  is  tho  900I  wo 

ftavaral  of  tho  provisions  of  H.R.  2»tt,   oopoclally  thooo 
rolatlng  to  dual  trading  and  audit  tralla,  apMsr  ill  eenooivod  to 
OOhlovo  tha  atatod  ob]activas  of  tha  bill,  ebjoctlvos  aborod  by 
tha  Board  of  Trada.   Inataad  of  tha  prohibition  of  dual  trading  in 
our  *OBt  inportant  aarkata,  tha  SubconUittao  should  eoadltion  dual 
trading  upon  tha  ability  of  tba  contract  oarkot  to  oaintaln  a 
praciso,  axcallant  audit  trail,  not  an  unobtalnablo  and 
nonoxiatant  parfoct  aystoa.   If  such  an  approach  Is  adoptod, 
ovoryona'a  coooon  objoctivo  of  aarkat  intagrlty  and  liquidity  oan 
and  will  ba  aehiavad. 


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testiflad  befora  tnls  connlttes  in  connection  with  this  yaar 
reauthorization.  1  will  limit  my  remarks  to  isauas  of  najor  coi 
the  Hinneapolia  Grain  Exchanga. 

First,  a  ganaral  connent.  I  an  the  newconec  in  represen 
exchange  in  a  setting  such  as  this  but  I  am  familiar  with  busii 
government.  Tha  futures  industry  today  —  ulth  all  its  sija,  i 
and  variety  —  owes  much  of  its  growth  anil  credibility  to  the  ai 

an  exclusive,  independent  regulator  to  regulate  the  nation's 
markets.  The  child  oC  that  legislation,  the  Conmodity  Futures 
Conmiaslon,  has  done  a  good  job  undar  difficult  circumatancas.  I 


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va  ara  conoamad  that  parts  ot  this  bill  sarva  to  r«vi«a  tlia  1974  aandata 
and  put  alcro-BanagaBant  of  Boaa  aspacta  ot  tba  Induatry  In  tha  Congrass 
and  out  of  tha  handa  of  tha  aypart  ragulator.  This  appaars  to  na  to  ba 
bad  bualnaaa  and  bad  QovarnBant. 

Spacltlcally,  dual  trading  ia  assMitial  to  praaarving  liquidity  In  our 
futuras  contract*.  Dual  tradara  ara  tnvolvad  In  avary  aapact  of  tuturaa 
trading  at  tha  lltnnaapolia  Grain  Exchanga.  Tbay  cannot  ba  aaparatad  fro> 
trading  In  tha  currant  option,  or  apraadlng  againat  dafarrad  optiona,  and 
parait  ratantlon  of  any  aaablanco  of  liquidity.  It  dlahonaaty  spring* 
tta*  dual  trading,  va  aust  ineraaaa  our  vlgllanca  to  pravant  it  (avan 
though  thara  la  no  avidenca  of  diahonast  dual  trading  at  tha  Hinnaapolla 
Grain  Bxchanga. )  if  diahonaat  dual  trading  aprings  froa  highly  liquid, 
•ctlva  tuturaa  aarkata,  lat  us  idantlty  and  punish  tha  dlshonaat  tradars, 
but  lat  us  not.  In  tha  procass,  daatroy  tha  futuras  aarkata.  niasa 
BBTkats  hava  provldad  tha  baat,  and  oCtan  tha  only,  sourc*  ot  pricing 
Information  and  Bargin  protaction  dating  back  alBoat  to  tha  Civil  War. 

Tachnology  Is  raachlng  tha  point  that  vary  accurata,  tiaaly  audit 
information  is  avallabla  to  halp  Idantlfy  thosa  tradara  oho  Blfplt  try, 
unfairly,  to  do  battar  than  thalr  trading  aklll  alona  might  patmlt.  At 


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th«  Hliuisapolia  Craln  Kxdianga,  wa  ballav*  that  our  audit  prograa 
providaa  a  aatl a factory  aaana  by  irtilch  to  varify  tha  tialng  data 
au^ittad  to  tha  Claarlitghouaa  and  to  datact  Inaccurata  or  alaalng  trada 
data  on  aourca  docuaanta. 

In  ttala  ragard,  tba  Comlaalon,  during  Ita  1988  Rula  Bnforcaaant 
Ravlaw  of  tha  Kiimaapolia  Grain  Kxchanga,  found  that  tha  Bxchanga'a  ona 
ainuta  tlning  ayataa  waa  axtra»aly  accurat*.  Th*  CFTC  atatad,  "...  tha 
BKchanga'a  ovarall  avaraga  accuracy  rata  waa  96. a  parcant."  Ha  ballava 
that  an  accuracy  rata  of  901  or  graatar  ia  a  propar  targat,  and  vill,  of 
couraa,  contlnua  to  atrlva  to  aaintaln  a  high  laval  of  parforaanca  In 
thla  araa. 

Lat  mm  taka  a  alnuta  to  congratulata  xr.  diarry  and  hla  atatt  on  thair 
profaaaionallaa.  Ha  vara  vlaitad  at  tha  Mlnnaapolla  Grain  Bxobanga  by 
Mr.  McDonald  who  waa  coapatant  and  thorough.  It  ia  our  viaw  that  tha 
frulta  of  thia  long,  datailad  invaatlgation  ahould  ba  fully  uaad  by  tha 
Comittaa  aa  part  of  ita  raaponalbllitiaa  to  ovarsaa  tha  CTTC.  In  tha 
naln,  tba  CFTC  baa  aora  than  anough  atatutory  authority  In  tha  araaa  of 
ao  oallad  "dual  trading",  audit  trail  and  oo^maltion  of  boarda  at 
axchangaa.  I  think  it  ia  antlraly  an>roprlata  for  thla  COB«lttaa  to 
ravlaw  tha  raeord  of  tha  CFTC  on  thaaa  laauaa)  it  would  ba  vary  riaky  to 
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Dual  trading  i«  said  to  occur  whan  an  antlty  BOHatljMa 
tradaa  «a  a  broker  for  cuatoaara,  and  at  ottiar  tlaae  tradaa  for 
ita  own  account.  Dual  trading  la  qulta  parvaeiva  tbroughoat  tb* 
Unitad  Stataa  aaeurltlaa  and  futuraa  aarkata  aa  wall  as  In 
financial  and  coaaodlty  aarkata  throughout  tha  world.  Tha 
parvaalvanasB  of  dual  trading  la  dua  to  tha  fact  that  aany  of  tha 
■killa  and  facllltiaa  raqulrad  to  ba  a  good  brokar  ara  alao 
nacaaaary  to  ba  a  good  tradar.  Dual  trading  Incraaaaa  tha  aupply 
of  both  brokara  and  floor  tradara  bacauaa  a  dual  tradar  can  aam 
Incoaa  from  two  actlvltlaa  to  covar  tha  coata  of  training,  an 
Exchanga  aaat,  and  tiaa  apant  on  tha  floor.  Ha  haa  laaa  Idla 
tlaa  and  taeilitlaB  whan  ha  can  switch  froa  tha  activity  In  low 
daaand  to  tha  activity  In  hl^  daaand. 

Dual  trading  haa  botb  a  diract  and  an  Indiract  atCact  on  tha 
quality  of  cuatoaar  aarvlcaa.  Tha  diract  affact  la  an  ineraaaa 
In  tha  quality  and  quantity  of  brokara.  Tha  fact  that  dual 
trading  Incraaaaa  tha  aupply  of  brokara  >aana  tha  cuatoaar  has 
mora  brokara  to  chooaa  troa  and  at  a  lowar  prica.  Forthanaora, 
ualng  a  brokar  who  la  a  good  tradar  Baana  highar  quality 
axacutiona  for  cuetoaara. 

Tha  indiract  affact  darivae  froa  tha  ineraaaa  in  tha 
liquidity  of  tha  aarkat  cauaad  by  tha  ineraaaa  in  tha  nuabar  of 
aarkat  aakars.  Partlaa  who  trada  for  thair  own  account  by  buying 
at  a  low  prlca  and  aalllng  at  a  high  prica  aarva  a  aarkat  aaklng 
function.   Thua  tha  ability  for  an  antlty  to  uaa  Ita  tacilltlaa 


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for  proprietary  trading  rcaultm  in  an  incraaaed  preaanca  of 
market  Makara  on  the  floor  at  tiaes  when  their  servicea  are  most 
needad.  Mora  tradara  standing  ready  to  trade  make  for  a  more 
liquid  aarket  with  snoothar  price  changaa. 

In  order  to  aid  in  a  comparative  analyaia  of  dual  trading  I 
distinguish  two  typaa  of  dual  trading.  The  first  type,  called 
slmultanaoua  dual  trading  occur a  when  a  firm  trades  as  a 
principal  for  its  own  account,  and  an  agent  for  its  customer  in 
the  aasa  transaction.  This  type  of  dual  trading  is  prsvalent  in 
securities  markets,  currency  and  interest  rate  swap  aarkets,  and 
tb«  fixed  income  market.  Sieultaneous  dual  trading  does  not  take 
place  in  futures  varkets.  The  second  type  of  dual  trading  called 
conaecutlve  dual  trading  occurs  when  a  fin  trades  for  custoasrs 
as  an  agent  and  at  other  times  trades  for  Its  own  account  as  a 
principal,  but  the  firm  does  not  do  both  in  tha  same  transaction. 
Consecutive  dual  trading  occurs  in  futures  markets,  as  wall  as  In 
all  of  the  earksts  in  which  there  is  simultaneous  dual  trading- 
Dual  trading  plays  a  particularly  laportant  role  In  futures 
narkets  as  contrasted  with  securities  Barkata.  Tha  feet  that  all 
trading  in  futures  takea  place  on  the  exchange  floor  and  that 
spread  trading  is  an  important  part  of  hedging  strategies  make 
the  skills  of  a  trader  more  necessary  for  a  good  futures  broker. 
The  iemediacy  regutrad  by  the  futures  market  Mkes  liquidity  aora 
important,  and  thsrefore  eakea  a  larger  supply  of  Market  wUcera 
Mors  critical. 

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n**d«.  Th«  first  ■«rvlc«  ("■•■rch")  lnvolv*a  ■•arching  for  tb* 
parti**  who  ar«  inc«r«at*d  in  balng  on  th*  othar  aid*  of  th« 
trada  (i.e. ,  tha  contra-party) .  nia  aacond  aarvica  ('tiaing') 
involvaa  obtaining  and  procaaaing  infar>ation  to  dataralna  how 
long  to  wait  for  tha  arrival  of  tha  Hoat  advantagaoua  contra- 
party  whila  balng  aicpoaad  to  tha  riak  of  an  advaraa  price  aova. 
Tba  third  aarvica  ("bargaining")  involvaa  acttvaly  bargaining 
aaong  available  contra-partiaa  to  obtain  the  baat  prica. 

A  aacuritiea  broker  can  uae  bla  akllla  and  aalaa  tore*  to 
prearrange  tradea  'upataira".  Upataira  aearoh  la  oftan^  an 
effactiva  aubatltuta  for  tha  downataira  working  of  an  order  lAara 
■timing"  and  "bargaining"  akllla  are  needed.  A  futures  broker 
cannot  prearrange  tradaa  upataira.  The  brokerage  fir*  cannot 
aubatitute  "aearch"  akllla  for  trading  akllla.  flia  order  auat  ba 
worked  on  the  Bxchenge  floor.  nia  floor  broker  auat  hava  tha 
ability  to  trade  in  auch  a  way  on  the  floor  of  the  Ixchange  that 
he  brings  the  other  aide  of  the  trade  to  tha  floor  at  a  good 
price  for  hla  custoMar.  niarafora  floor  trading  akllla  are 
relatively  more  iiq^rtant  in  the  futuraa  aerket  than  in  the 
aecuritiea  aarkat. 

Further,  auch  tuturea  trading  involvaa  "apraada"  where  a 
cuatoaar  wants  to  buy  and  sell  two  (or  aora)  contracts 
siaultaneously  for  a  guarantaad  net  price.  The  oustoaer's  broker 
can  execute  the  spread  by  trading  with  a  "local"  on  the  floor,  or 
tha  broker  can  execute  the  individual  "laga"  of  tha  apraad 
consacutivaly.   The  latter  will  ba  in  tha  beat  interest  of  hla 


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if  the  brokar  i«  a  skillad  tradar,  slnc«,  by  trading 
each  leg  himaelf,  th«  broker  avoids  paying  tha  local  a  praniun 
Cor  the  risk  in  trading  th«  spread.  Such  spread  trading  is 
inherently  risky  to  a  broker,  sine*  attar  he  executes  one  leg  of 
the  spread  his  customer  can  hold  him  to  a  price  for  the  other  leg 
of  the  spread,  which  the  broker  may  find  Impossible  to  achieve  it 
the  price  moves  attar  he  does  the  first  leg.  This  aspect  of 
futures  trades  as  wall  as  the  relatively  higher  underlying  price 
volatility  in  aany  futures  contracts  increase  the  trading  skills 
burden  on  a  futures  floor  broker  relative  to  that  of  a  securities 
floor  broker. 

Futures  trading  custo*ars  often  have  a  high  desand  for 
Immediacy  because  they  are  tradir^g  to  hedge  an  underlying  spot 
narket  position.  The  tact  that  immediacy  of  trade  execution  is 
extremely  important  to  futures  customers  Impliss  that  they  will 
have  a  greater  deaand  tor  »rket  makers  than  will  be  the  case  In 
markets  where  the  cost  of  delayed  execution  is  eaaller.  A 
commodity  hadger  bears  great  risk  if  he  does  not  do  his  futures 
trade  iMmediately.  nils  risk  nay  force  hia  to  trade  using  a 
"aarkat"  order,  for  example  to  sell  iBsadlBtely  to  the  highest 
bidder  currently  available.  It  there  are  tew  aarkat  makara  then 
he  will  receive  a  relatively  low  price,  i.e.,  his  trade  will  have 
a  high  market  intact  cost.  Thus  futures  urkets  have  a  great 
demand  tor  traders  who  in  effect  serve  a  market  uking  function. 
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Dual  trading  lner«««*B  th»  supply  of  ttw  typ*a  of  ciutoaar 
Mrvlc«B  which  «t«  r«lativ«ly  bobc  d»>«ndad  by  futuxa*  custoaars. 
Du«l  trading  la  pr«val«nt  in  tha  aacurltlas  »arkat,  both  on  tha 
floor  and  off  tha  trading  floor,  inatitutional  aacuritiaa  tradaa 
ara  of  tan  praarrangad  off  of  tha  floor,  and  thla  laaaana  tha 
burdan  of  aacurltiaa  floor  brokara.  It  would  ba  quita  paculiar 
to  alialnata  dual  trading  tor  futuraa  and  aalntain  It  for 
aaourltiaa  whare  tha  dual  trading  by  floor  brokara  la  laaa 
liq^rtant.  Tha  alivlnatlon  of  dual  trading  frea  futuraa  Barkata 
will  ban  cuatoaare  by  raduclng  tha  quality  of  brokara  irtio  do 
custowor  bualnaaa.  Tha  baat  tradara  will  trada  for  thalr  own 
account,  laaving  cuatowara  with  brokara  who  ara  loas  aklllad 
tradara.  8y  pravanting  tradara  froa  acting  aa  brokara,  tha 
aliaination  of  dual  trading  will  raduca  tha  nuabar  of  floor 
tradara,  and  thua  raduca  aarkat  liquidity.  Foralqn  aarkata  will 
gain  an  advantaga  ovar  DS  aarkata  cauaing  larga  euatoMara  to 
laava  ua  aarkata  which  will  loaa  liquidity.  Ibarafora  aaall 
cuatoaara,  unabla  to  trada  ovarsaaa,  will  ba  aoat  advarsaly 
affactad  by  tha  loaa  of  liquidity  In  D8  aarkata.  Spot  aarkata, 
auch  aa  qralna  and  tha  OS  traaaury  bond  aarkat  will  ba  advaraaly 
affactad  by  tha  loaa  of  liquidity  in  futuraa  aarkata,  and  apet 
pricaa  will  baco^a  aora  volatlla.  Finally,  cuatoaara  will  loaa 
tba  fraadoa  of  cbolca  thay  now  hava  to  pick  aitbar  a  brokar  who 
alao  tradaa  for  hia  own  account,  or  a  brolcar  who  tradaa 
axcluaivaly  for  cuatoaara. 


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AN  ECONOMIC  ANALYSIS  OF  DUAL  TRADING 


Sanford  J.  Grattnun 


TruBtaa  Prof  assoc  eC  Pliunea 


Onivaraity  at  MniwylvMiln 
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Tahla   at  eonfnf 


1.    EMCUttM    <i.~-..^ 

3.    IntrodueCian    

1.    Cuato—r  OrdT  Flow  and  Wrfct  Struetura   . 

DiacuBBlon  of  Tabla  1    

Tabla  1    

Dlsciuslon  of  Tabla  a 

Tabl*  1   


4.    Tha  Datair»lMHta  at  —rltat   r,tqiitiittY  ^vfl  prnha^fBt  ayvt™^      - 

4A.    ■rakaraja   garvlcaa 

Brokarag*    Sarvicaa    For    ItiBCltutional    Saouritlaa 

CU*to>ar*   

Brokaraga  Sarvloaa  for  ruturas  cuatoaar* 

«••    ^h-    naf>-tn.nCa    af   Ifai^t    Ltaniiiltv 

Final  Cuatraara   


Markata  aa  Inforaatlan  convayora  ■ 


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Dual  TrMlina.  Warlcaf.  T.tgutdttv.  and  th»  OuaHty  of  Brolcyo.  . 
Tha  ImporCanca  of  Dual  Tradinq  In  FuCuraa  Harkata  •  •  • 
Ttia  Exchanga  Floor  la  a  Poeal  Point  tn  ruturaa  Karkats 
Futuras  Cuatoaara  Saquira  Brokara  Hha  ara  Tradara  .  .  . 
Dual  Trading  and  Liquidity  on  Futuraa  Karkata 

.  Praliainary  Evaluation  of  Propoaala  to  Raatriet  Dual  Tradlnq  . 

A.  Conaaquaneaa  of  EHmtnattng  nual  Tradlmp 

Tha  HuBbar  of  Market  Kakaca  and  of  Brokara  Will 

Markat  Liquidity  Hill  Ba  RsducMl  

Spot  Karkats  Will  Ba  Advaraaly  Affactad  

Foraign  Markata  Will  Raplaca  OB   Markata  

Cuatoaara  Mill  Loaa  Thair  Praadoa  Of  Cholca   .  .  . 

B.  Bavtaw  at  Pronoaala  to  Partially  tllainata  Dual 


1.  Mflnata  n»-1  TraJtim  tti  t-itnitd  Contraeta   .  . 

2.  gHainata  Oaat  Trading  at  tha  Onan  and  tha 

eloaa  of  Trading   

].  tAmif  ft>.  %X"  "t   Cua*— "•  f^"m   gMmtabIa  by 

4.  TilBit  mMl  T^dtnT  to   <•!«  Ilaefc  Mnntha 

laaurina  tha  —naflta  »f   Ouat  Tra^laa 

nia  Dataralnants  of  Dual  Trading  

Iba  Banaflta  of  Dual  Trading  


23-500  0-90-17 

D,gnz.dbvC00gle 


Dual  Trading  In  Foraign  MmrkaCa  . 
AuatralU 


Balgiua  . 
Braill 


Hong  Kanq 
InAU  .  . 

Italy  .  . 


Kavleo  .... 
Katharlanda  .  . 
Slngapora  .  .  . 
South  Africa  . 

Spain  

swittarland  .  . 
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1.  BxBCUtlv  a 

Dual  trading  1b  a* id  to  occur  vh*n  an  entity  i 
trad*a  a>  a  brokar  tor  cuatoaara,  and  at  othar  tluas  tradaa  for 
ita  own  account.  Dual  trading  la  quit*  parvaalva  throughout  tha 
Unltad  Stataa  aacutitlca  and  futuraa  aarkata  «b  vail  aa  In 
financial  and  connodlty  RMrkata  throughout  tha  world.  Tha 
parvaaivanaaa  of  dual  trading  la  dua  to  tha  fact  that  aany  of  tha 
akilla  and  facllltlaa  'raqulrad  to  ba  a  good  brokar  ara  alao 
nacaaaary  to  ba  a  good  tradar.  Dual  trading  Incraaaaa  tha  aupply 
of  both  brokara  and  floor  tradaca  bacauaa  a  dual  tradar  can  aam 
incona  fron  two  actlvltlaa  to  covar  tha  coata  of  training,  an 
Exchanga  aaat,  and  tlaa  spant  on  tha  floor.  Ha  baa  laaa  Idla 
tlma  and  facllltlaa  whan  ha  can  awltch  froa  tha  activity  In  low 
damand  to  Cha  activity  in  high  daaand. 

Dual  trading  has  both  a  dlracc  and  an  Indiract  affact  on  tha 
quality  ot  cuatoJaar  aacvlcas.  Tb«  dlract  affact  la  an  incraaaa 
in  tha  quality  and  quantity  of  brokara.  Tha  faot  that  dual 
trading  incraaaaa  tha  aupply  of  brokara  aaana  tha  euatoaar  haa 
■ora  brokara  to  cbooaa  (roB  and  at  a  lotiar  prlca.  Purtharaora, 
ualng  a  brokar  who  ia  a  good  tradar  aaana  highar  quality 
axacutiona  tor  cuatOBara. 

Tha  Indiract  affact  darivaa  froa  tba  Incraaaa  in  tha 
liquidity  of  tha  aarkat  causad  by  tha  incraaaa  In  tha  nuabor  of 
aarkat  nakara.  Partiaa  who  trada  Cor  thair  own  account  by  buying 
at  a  low  prlca  and  aalllng  at  a  high  prlca  aarva  a  aarkat  asking 
function.   Thua  tha  ability  for  an  antlty  to  uaa  ita  (acllitiai 


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for  proprietary  trading  raiulti  in  an  lncr«as«d  prtmmtto*  ct 
■arkat  kakars  on  tha  floor  at  tisa*  whan  thatr  •arvleas  ar«  Boat 
n«ad«d.  Nora  tradara  standing  raady  to  trada  maka  for  •  »er* 
liquid  aarkat  with  ••oothar  prlca  changaa. 

In  ordar  to  aid  in  a  coaparat^va  analyaia  of  dual  trading  I 
diatingutah  two  typaa  of  dual  trading.  Tha  tirat  typa,  callad 
■{■ultmn»nu«  dual  trading  oceura  whan  a  flea  tradaa  aa  a 
principal  tor  its  own  account,  and  an  agant  (or  Its  custoaar  In 
tha  asMa  transaction.  This  typa  of  dual  trading  is  pr«¥al«nt  In 
sacurltias  sarkata,  currancy  and  intarast  rata  swap  Msrlwts.-.-and 
tha  tlKod  Incoaa  aarkat.  Slmiltanaoua  dual  trading  doaa  not  taks 
placa  in  tuturss  aarkats.  Tha  sacond  typa  of  dual  trading  eallsd 
eonaacutlv  dual  trading  oceura  whan  a  fira  tradss  for  euatoaars 
as  an  agant  and  at  otltar  tlaas  tradas  (or  tta  own  account  aa  a 
principal,  but  tba  fir*  doas  net  do  both  in  tba  aaas  transaction. 
Cenaactttiva  dual  trading  oceura  in  futuraa  aarkata,  as  wall  as  in 
•11  of  tha  aarkata  in  which  thara  is  siaultanaous  dual  trading. 

Dual  trading  plays  a  particalarly  iapertant  rola  in  futuraa 
■arkats  as  eentrasted  with  aecarlttaa  aarkata.  Tha  fsot  that  all 
trading  la  totura*  takes  place  en  tba  aachange  floor  and  that 
sprsad  trading  is  an  iiportant  part  of  hedging  atrategies  aaka 
the  skills  et  a  trader  aore  necassary  for  a  good  futures  broker. 
The  iaaedtaey  required  by  tha  futures  Mrket  aakea  liquidity  aore 
laportant,  and  therefore  Bakas  a  larger  supply  of  aarket  aakera 
Bors  critical. 

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needs.  Tha  flrat  ■•rvlcs  ("■•arch*]  involvas  acarchlng  foe  cha 
partiaa  «bo  ara  intaraatad  In  balng  on  tha  othar  alda  of  tha 
trade  (i.e.,  tha  contra -pa rty } .  Tha  aacond  aarvlca  ("tlaing") 
Involvea  obtaining  and  procaaalng  information  to  dataraina  how 
long  to  vait  for  tha  arrival  of  tha  noat  advantagaous  contra- 
party  while  being  expoaed  to  tha  riak  of  an  advaraa  price  nova. 
The  third  aervlce  ("bargaining")  Involvea  actively  bargaining 
auong  available  contra -part lea  to  obtain  the  best  prlca. 

k  securltiea  broker  can  use  hi a  akills  and  aalaa  force  to 
prearrange  trade*  "upetalra" .  upataira  aaarch  ia  often'  an 
affective  substitute  for  tha  downstaira  working  of  an  order  where 
"tlMlng"  and  "bargaining"  skills  ara  naadad.  A  futures  broker 
cannot  prearrange  trade*  upetair*.  The  brokerage  tira  cannot 
substitute  "search"  akilla  for  trading  akllla.  Tha  order  mat  be 
worked  on  the  Exchange  floor.  The  floor  broker  mat  have  the 
ability  to  trade  in  such  a  way  on  the  floor  of  the  Exchange  that 
ha  brings  the  other  aids  of  the  trade  to  the  floor  at  ■  good 
price  for  hie  cuatoaer.  Therefore  floor  trading  skllla  are 
relatively  aore  Important  in  the  futures  aarket  than  in  tha 
aecurltlea  aarket. 

Further ,  auch  futures  trading  involvea  "spread*"  whers  a 
cu*to>*r  want*  to  boy  and  sell  two  < 
aiaultaneously  for  a  guaranteed  net  prioa. 
can  execute  the  apraad  by  trading  with  a  "local"  on  the  floor,  or 
the  broker  can  execute  the  individual  "legs"  of  the  apread 
consecutively.   The  latter  will  be  In  the  best  J 


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custeaMt  1(  ch«  bromr  Is  ■  aklllad  trader,  ainc*.,  by  trading 
•ach  lag  hlaaalf,  tha  brokar  avolda  paying  ttaa  local  a  praalua 
Cor  tha  rlak  in  trading  tha  apraad.  sucb  apcaad  trading  la 
Inhacantly  claky  to  ■  brokar,  alnca  aCtar  h«  axaeutaa  ona  lag  at 
tha  apcaad  hi*  cuatoaar  can  hold  hlB  to  a  prlca  tct  tha  othar  lag 
of  tha  apraad,  whlcb  tba  brokar  aay  find  iapoaaibia  to  aehlava  If 
tha  prica  Bovaa  attar  ha  doaa  tha  (irat  lag.  Tbia  aapact  of 
tuturaa  tradaa  aa  wall  bb  tha  ralatlvaly  highar  undarlylng  prlca 
volatility  in  aany  futuraa  eontraeta  Incraaaa  tha  trading  akllla 
burdan  on  ■  futuraa  floor  brokar  ralativa  to  that  of  a  aaouritlaa 
floor  brokar. 

Futuraa  trading  cuatonara  oftan  hava  a  blgh  daaand  tor 
1— aJlacy  baeauaa  thay  ara  trading  to  hadja  an  undarlylng  spot 
•arkat  position.  Tha  faet  that  i*aodlaey  of  trado  axaeutlon  la 
axtraaaly  lapertant  Ce  futuraa  ouatoaaca  lapllaa  that  thay  vtll 
hava  a  graatar  daaand  for  »arkat  aaliai  ■  than  will  ba  tha  oaaa  In 
markata  whara  tha  coat  of  dalayad  ameutioa  la  aullar.  X 
po— edity  hadgar  baara  qraat  riak  It  ba  daaa  not  do  hia  futuraa 
trada  inadlataly.  Thla  riak  nay  foroa  hia  to  trada  uaing  a 
•■■BrkBt"  ordar,  for  asanpla  to  aoll  1— idlataly  to  tha  highaat 
biddar  oacrantly  avallabla.  If  thara  ara  faw  Markat  aakara  than 
ba  will  raealva  a  ralatlvaly  low  prlca,  l.a. ,  bl>  trada  will  hava 
a  hl^  aarkat  ii^aet  coat.  Thua  futuraa  aarkata  bava  a  graat 
daaand  for  tradara  who  in  aCtaot  aarva  a  aarkat  aaking  function. 
Tba  Inatitutlon  of  dual  trading  pacaita  thla  daaand  to  ba  aat  at 
low  coat. 


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Dual  trading  Incraaaaa  tha  aupply  of  tha  typaa  tof  cuatcaar 
aarvleaB  which  ara  ralativaly  Boat  dasandad  by  futuraa  cuatosara. 
Dual  trading  la  pravalant  In  tha  aacuritlaa  Markat,  both  on  tha 
floor  and  off  tha  trading  floor.  Inatltutional  aacuritlaa  tradaa 
ara  otton  praarrangad  off  of  tha  floor,  and  tbia  laaaana  tha 
burdon  of  aacuritlaa  floor  brokara.  It  would  ba  qulta  paculiar 
to  allBinata  dual  trading  for  futuraa  and  wilntaln  It  for 
aacuritlaa  whara  tha  dual  trading  by  floor  brokara  la  laaa 
laportanC.  Tha  allainatlon  of  dual  trading  Iro>  futuraa  aarkata 
will  harm  cuatoaara  by  raducing  tha  quality  of  brokara  whd  do 
cuatonar  bualnaaa.  Tba  boat  tradara  will  trada  for  tbalr  own 
leaving  cuatoaara  with  brokara  irtio  ara  lasa  aklllod 
By  pravanting  tradara  (roa  acting  aa  brokara,  tha 
ali>lnation  of  dual  trading  will  raduca  tha  nuabar  ol  floor 
tradara,  and  thua  raduca  aarkat  liquidity.  Poraign  aarkata  will 
gain  an  advantaga  ovar  OS  aarkata  cauaing  larga  cuatoaara  to 
laava  US  aarkata  which  will  loaa  liquidity.  Tharatora  aaall 
cuatoaara,  unobla  to  trada  ovarooaa,  will  ba  aoat  advaraaly 
'  afCactad  by  tha  loas  of  liquidity  in  US  aarkata.  Spot  aarkata, 
Bucb  aa  graina  and  tha  US  traaaury  bond  aarkat  will  ba  advaraaly 
affactad  by  tha  loaa  of  liquidity  In  tuturaa  aarkata,  and  apot 
pricaa  will  bacoaa  aora  volatlla.  finally,  cuatoaara  will  loaa 
tha  froodoa  of  cholca  thay  now  bava  to  pick  althar  a  brekor  who 
alBo  tradaa  for  hla  own  account,  or  a  brokar  who  tradaa 
axelualvaly  for  cuatoaara. 


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I.  tntrnduetlM. 

Dual  trading  !•  said  to  oceur  wbrn  an  antlty  aoaatlMB 
ccadas  aa  a  br«)Mr  tor  cuatMMCS,  and  ac  othar  tlaaa  tradaa  for 
its  own  account.  m*  papar  axploras  tha  •oonoaio  function  of 
dual  trading,  and  propo***  — thoda  Cor  ealeulatlng  Ita  lapaot  on 
■arkat  liquidity  and  tb*  quality  at  ouateaar  brokaraqa  ••rvlcaa. 
A  latar  papar  will  lvl«>«i>t  tboaa  aatboda  «n  actual  trading 
data. 

lb*  atnietura  of  this  ptpvc   la  am   Collowat 

Saetlen  J  provlda*  •«■•  g«naral  baefeground  en  gtba 
organiiatien  eC  aarlMts  and  trading.  It  will  ba  umma  that  dual 
trading  la  parvaalv*  la  tha  Onitvd  ItatM  wewltlaa  and  fntuTM 
markata,  though  fntuvaa  ■arkats  eaa  bm  diatinquiahad  fra« 
aacurltlaa  Mrlwta  by  tha  fact  that  dual  trading  ia  pazMlttad  ofC 
tha  trading  Hear  la  aecoritiea  whila  It  ia  prohibited  for 
tuturaa.  Iba  tppandJjt  pi'u»idaa  a  aamary  of  tha  extent  te  wblA 
dual  trading  exlata  en  narkete  tbranghoat  tha  world. 

saeclon  4  prwrldaa  an  aoenoHle  analynia  el  thn  datarmlnanta 
et  the  etCaetiveneea  et  narfeeta.  it  arantnaa  the  daaand  lor,  and 
tba  eivply  ot  varlena  brekeraga  aarvlaaa.  Zt  alee  axplalne  tha 
detemiaaate  ef  eajcfeat  Uqnidity. 

•aaelOB  9  abOM  how  dual  tradlaq  liveota  on  the  abUity  of 
brokara  to  deliver  the  abeve  aarvioan,  and  bew  Awl  tradlag 
Inpacte  on  aerkat  liquidity. 

section  •.appliaa  tha  above  aaalyeia  to  detemlna  tha  likely 
cenaoquancae  at    alininating  dual  trading  In  futnraa  narkete. 


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Spaeial  attantlon  la  glv«n  to  avaluating  proposals  to.aalactlvaly 
•llslnat*  dual  trading  In  particular  cosBOdltla*  or  contract 

saetion  7  discuaas  various  Battaods  trttlch  can  ba  usad  to 
coaputa  tha  sonatary  banaflts  to  custoBara  froa  tba  aklatanea  of 
dual  trading. 


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].  CuatQ—r  QrdT  now  «nd  Wrmc  struetura  . 

Dual  cradlnq  can  b«at  ba  undaratood  by  tracing  tha  Bannar  in 
which  ■  cuatoBar  ordar  la  axacutad.  It  la  convanlanC  to  baqin 
with  a  cuatoBar  who  wanta  to  buy  an  ■Itaa".  Thia  Itaa  alght  ba  a 
tucucaa  contract,  •  llatad  aacurlty,  a  govamaant  bond,  ate. 

Dlaeuaaion  at   Tabl*  1 

Tabla  1  praaanta  tha  tirat  part  oC  tba  path  which  tha  ordar 
can  travaraa.  Part  A  »t  tha  Tabla  analycaa  tba  ordar  tloit  It  tha 
cuatoaar  glvaa  hia  ordar  to  a  daalar,  whlla  Part  B  conaldarartha 
caaa  whara  tha  ordac  foaa  to  a  brokar.  In  Part  A,  tha  oustoaar 
daaia  with  a  pcinclpal,  whlla  In  Part  S,  tha  br«iMr  acta  mm   tha 

Part  Al  la  tha  ataplaat  caaa,  whara  tha  cuatoaar  tradaa 
dlraetly  with  tha  daalar.  Thia  typa  at  trad*  la  charaetariatie 
of  tha  tlicad  IncoMM  Bartat,  for  axaapla  US  traaaury  bonda, 
■unicipal  bonda,  cetperata  bonda,  ate.  It  ia  alao  tha  aathod  by 
which  tha  apot  and  terward  Markat  in  toraign  axchanga,  and 
intaraat  rata  aw^a  oparata.  In  auch  aarlcata,  tba  euateaar 
tradaa  dlrvetly  wltk  a  daalar.  Aa  will  tm  alaberatad  in  tba  naitt 
•action,  tha  cuatawir  nut  angaga  in  aetlva  aaardi  to  find  tha 
daalar  wtw  ta  offariag  hl>  tha  baat  prica.  H*  la  not  aaploylng 
an  agant  to  do  tba  work  for  hia. 


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with  Whoa  Doai  th«  Cuatomr  Initlaf  Hla  Tradg 

X.    cuaConT  n»M  a  DaalT. 

Al.  Tba  cuato>*r  can  trad*  diractly  vtth  a  daalar  who  aalla 
to  hia  CroB  tha  daalar'a  Invantory. 

A2.  Tha  cuatoaar  can  trada  diractly  vith  a  daalar  who 
obtaina  tha  itaa  alaawhara. 

A2a.  Tha  daalar  could  obtain  tha  itan  trom  anothar 
daalar  who  baa  It  In  ita  invantory. 

A3b.  Tha  daalar  could  obtain  tha  itaa  ttom    anothar 

A2c.  Ttim  daalar  could  obtain  tha  Itaa  indlractly  fro> 
anothar  cuatoaar  by  obtaining  it  froa  a  daalar  who  obtaina  it 
fron  anothar  cuatoaar. 

B.  Tha  cuatoaar  can  uaa  a  brolcar  to  find  a  buvar. 

Bl.  Tha  brokac  can  find  a  aallar  on  an  Bitctaanga. 

B2.  Tha  brokar  can  find  a  sallar  froa  ita  own  cuatoaara. 

c.  Tha  cuatoMi-  uaaa  Brekar/D—lT  3«vlc«a. 

Tha  Brokar/Daalar  axacutaa  It*  cuatoaar'a  ordar  by  aalllng 
froa  Ita  own  account  and  by  finding  cuatoaara  who  want  t«  aall. 


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pare  U  eoMiOar*  tha  «•••  Hhara  ttM  cuacoMr,  dasiraa  an 
itaB  which  tha  daalar  daaa  net  hava  In  bis  Imrantory.  in  aueb  a 
caaa  tha  daalar  will  aec«Mpt  to  obtain  tha  itaa  froai  anatbar 
daalar,  or  troa  anothar  cuatoMr.  That  la,  tha  daalar  la  acting 
Ilka  a  bcokar  by  angafinq  In  aftorta  to  obtain  tba  Itaa  for  bia 
cuatoaar.  Tharatora  avan  in  pura  daalar  Barkata,  brokaraga 
aarvlcaa  ara  provldad.  Hora  iaportantly.  It  ia  l^oaalbla  to 
dlatinguiah  tradaa  aada  on  bahalf  of  a  euaCoMar  troK  tradaa  aada 

tradaa  aliMd  at    him  c^mtammrm     In  a  pura  daa^ay  Mrhat-    .Tha 
brokar/daalar  auat  da  a«  in  ordar  to  obtain  tba  itaa  tor  hla 

Part  B  of  Tabl*  1  canaidara  tba  caaa  vhara  tha  cuatMMr  uaaa 
a  brekar  to  obtain  tba  Ita*  for  hla.  na  daaraat  axaapla  of 
thla  aituatien  oceura  vith  ragard  to  futuraa  eentracta.  A 
cuatoaar  daairing  to  trada  a  futuraa  contract,  ia  prohibltad  by 
crrc  ragulationa  froa  trading  dizootly  with  a  daalar  oft  af  tha 
floor  of  an  Kx^ianga.  Tha  cnatoaar  auat  angaga  tha  aarvlcaa  of  a 
brokar  to  aat  aa  hla  agant.  mia  la  labollod  Bl  on  Tabla  1. 

A  Bora  oo^^ax  aitnation  ia  au^Hritad  by  B2,  whara  tha 
brokar  ean  find  a  aollar  froa  aaong  ita  Mm  cnataaara.  An 
liportant  aUMpla  of  thla  ptiannaannn  oceura  in  tha  Inatltutlonal 
trading  af  i  i^iiii  atock.  A  ouateaar  who  daalraa  to  purcbaaa  a 
larga  block  of  eoaaon  atock  aay  aak  an  Itysi  aaabar  tlra  to 
attaapt  to  find  aallara.  Tha  aaabar  fin  will  utllita  varleua 
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atght  ba  sallats.   Tha  manbar  Cira   will  than  bring  both  tha  buy 
and  sail  ocdara  of  Ita  cuatonara  to  tha  HYSB  Cloor  uhara  tha 
ordara  will  ba  croasad. 

Part  C  of  TBbla  1  conaidara  tha  caaa  whara  tha  euatoaar  usaa 
tha  flra  to  ba  alnultanaoualy  a  brokar  and  a  daalar.  This  waa 
alraady  iKpllcit  In  tha  "pura"  daalar  ralatlonahlp  daacrlbad  In 
Part  A3,  but  it  can  ba  vary  axpltctt  In  tha  casa  of  aacurltlaa. 
Consldar  tha  axaapla  aantionad  abova  whara  tha  SISZ  >aiibar  lira 
la  putting  togathar  tha  purcbaaa  of  a  larga  block  ol  atock  tor  a 
euatoaar.  If  tha  brokar/daalac  cannot  find  anougb  cuatoaara ' wbo 
want  to  aall.  it  night  aall  out  of  Ita  ovn  invontory,  and  thua 
takaa  part  of  tha  othar  aida  of  Ita  own  cuatoaar'a  trada.  It 
would  than  bring  tha  whola  trada  to  tha  NYSE  floor  tor  opan 

Tha  abova  raaarks  indlcata  that  aacuritlaa  ara  tradad  by 
tlma  that  angaga  in  a  typa  of  dual  trading  idiich  X  will  rafar  to 
aa  almiltanaoua  dual  trading.  That  la,  tha  flraa  ara  baing  both 
brokara  and  daalara  at  tha  aaaa  tlaa  for  tha  aaaa  cuatoar.  It 
may  ba  uaaful  to  contrast  thla  vith  what  I  will  call  conaaeufclva 
dual  Cra^^J.^>fl  in  trtiich  tha  fir>  aoaatlBas  tradaa  aa  principal  and 
B^Mtiaas  tradaa  aa  agant,  but  doas  not  do  both  In  a  alngla 
tranaactlon.  Siaultanaoua  dual  trading  occurs  In  tha  sacurltlas 
narkats  [Including  options)  but  doaa  not  occur  in  tha  futuras 

A  cuatonar  in  tha  sacurltlas  or  futuraa  industry  will  usa  a 
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trading.  Tha  •conoalca  of  why  this  i>  th*  ems*  will  b*  uialyaaA 
in  tha  n«xt  two  Sactlons.  Har*  it  auttlcaB  to  neca  that  juat 
about  avary  fin  which  accapta  cuatoaar  orda»  alao  tradaa  for 
Ita  own  account:  thara  ara  vary  taw  tirsa  that  trada  only  for 
thair  «wn  account,  or  that  trad*  only  for  euateaara.  Xhi»  la 
litarally  tru^  In  tha  daalar  markata  Ilka  tha  flvad  incowa 
■arkata  and  tha  ov*r  tha  eountar  atock  aarkat  (wtiara  tha 
dtatlnction  batwaan  principal  and  agant  tradaa  doaa  not  axLt) , 
but  it  la  alao  trua  for  coaaon  atock  and  futuraa  eontraets. 

Diaeuaaian  of  Tabla  a 

Tabl*  3  traoaa  tha  naxt  atap  followad  by  tha  coatoaar'a 
ordar  undar  tha  aaawiptlan  that  It  la  not  axacutad  dlr«etly  by 
tha  brokar/daalac  accaptlng  tha  ordar.  In  particular,  tha  ordar 
la  traead  through  Ita  axocutlon  on  an  Exchanga.  It  la  ooovaniant 
to  ratar  to  tha  brokar  who  flrat  racalvaa  tha  euatoaar  ordar  aa 
tha  "upataira  brokar".  It  la  cencaptnally  uaaful  (and  nanally 
daacrlptlvaly  aeeurat*}  to  visuallta  tha  upstairs  brokar 
tranaaltting  tha  ordar  "downatalrs"  to  tha  trading  near  of  an 
or  tranaalttlng  It  t« 


both  euatoaar  buslnaaa  and  alao  tradaa  for  hla  own  ■ 
principal  (eatagory  B  on  Tabla  i). 


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Traelny  th«  C^imtoaar'a  ordar  On  An  1 


itoiwr'a  ordT  handlad  bv  an  ACgMT  on  tiim  Zxchamw  floor. 
A.l   Employ**  of  Cha  Exchanga  amcutaa  th*  cuatOBar'a  ordar. 
A. 2  Floor  brokar  who  spaclallz**  In  trading  for  custoMar* 
•xacutaa  tha  cuatosar'a  ordar. 


B.     Cuato— r'a    ordar   h»ndl«l   bv    a    PRIWCIPAL/XCEIIT    on    tJia   gitchaiw 

floor. 

Bl.  A  brokar/daalar  bandlaa  tha  ordac. 

Bla.  Tha  broKar/daalar  handlaa  It  a*  an  agant. 

Bib.  Tha  brokar/daalar  handla*  it  as  an  agant  and 
principal . 

B2.  A  brokar/tradar  bandlaa  tha  erdar  aa  an  agant. 
B3.  A  brokar/aarkat  >ak*r  handlaa  tha  ordar. 

B3^.   sa  handlaa  it  aa  an  agant. 

B3b.  Ha  handlaa  it  as  a  principal. 


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Tha  puraat  fan  at  an  ■agent"  wha  axacutaa  tha  custoaar'a 
ordar  on  tha  Exehang*  doer  la  an  a«ployaa  at  tha  Exchanqa  uho 
axacutaa  cuatasar  ocdera  (category  Al  In  Table  1).  Ttila  occurs 
on  aany  (oralgn  Ixchangaa  (such  aa  tha  Tokya  Stock  Exchange),  a* 
wall  aa  an  tha  Oilcego  •oartt  Optlotia  Dtehanga  (CBOE)  when  an 
Exeheng*  eapleyee  ■aintaina  a  ll>lt  ordar  book  tor  cuatoaar 
ordera,  and  handlaa  tha  axecutltm  ol  thaae  ordera  whan  the  aarket 
price  reaches  the  level  at  which  the  cuatoaer  Indicated  that  ha 
ia  Intareatad  in  trading.  Hat*  that  by  ■executing  the  euatoaar 
order",  I  do  not  aaan  that  he  taJua  the  other  side  of  tha  trade. 
Rather,  tha  agent  folloHS  the  prescribed  rules  ot  tha  Exchange  in 
an  attaapt  to  gat  tha  beat  prlee  Cor  the  eustaaar.  This  *ay 
involve  announcing  to  the  trading  crowd  that  he  haa  an  order  to 
till,  and  then  trading  with  tha  Baaber  sf  the  trading  crowd  who 
oftera  tha  bast  price.  Tha  BeBbar  ot  the  trading  erowd  with  whoa 
the  agent  tradaa  say  hiaealt  be  rapraaanting  euataaara  aa  an 
•gant  or  ha  could  ba  trading  tor  hlaaelt  aa  •  prineipal. 

Part  U  of  Table  1  indlcataa  a  leaa  extraaa  sltnatlen  where 
B  aeaber  of  the  Exchange  daeldea  to  specialiie  in  trading  tor 
custCMara  ea  the  floor,  and  aaaentially  deea  no  trading  aa  a 
principal  fer  its  own  account.  Alaoat  all  exchanges  have 
IndlvidDBl  eaabera  who  have  built  ■  reputation  as  good  brokara 
trading  tor  custoaars,  but  Mio  do  little  or  no  trading  on  their 


In  contrast  to  tha  above  situatlona  i4iera  tha  cuatMMr  order 
Is  handled  by  ■agents',  an  anorsous  aaount  at   floor  brokerage  is 


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•ffectea  by  firss  that  ar*  broker/daalara,  brokar  itradara,  or 
bEolcer/narkat  aakars.  Tbase  caCagoriaa  appaar  in  Sactlon  B  of 
Tabla  2 .  An  axaapla  of  eatagory  Bl  Is  a  brokar/daalar  auch  aa 
Harrill  Lynch  vfho  handlaa  a  cuatonar'a  atock  trada  on  tha  NYSE 
Exchanga  floor.  Tha  Karrill  brokar  can  act  aa  a  pura  agant 
(catagory  Bla  on  Tabl*  3]  vho  buya  tha  atock  on  tha  Bxcbanga  froa 
another  brokar  In  an  opan  outcry  auction.  In  a  mora  coaplax 
eaas,  Karrill  >ay  ba  both  a  principal  and  an  aganti  aalling  to 
tha  cuatoaar  partially  traa  ita  own  account  and  partially  tor 
othar  Marrill  cuatoaars.  For  larga  Institutional  tradaa.  'tha 
Marrill  floor  brokar  Bay  ba  rapraaanting  Karrill  Lynch,  and  both 
buying  and  sailing  cuatOPMra  on  tha  NYSE  floor  at  tha  saaa  tiaa 
In  tha  Sana  trada.  Harrill  nagotiatas  tha  trada  sacratly 
upataira,  and  axpoaaa  tha  ordara  "downataira"  on  tha  trading 
floor  by  of  faring  out  ona  sida  of  tha  trad*  to  whosavar  ia 
prasant  at  tha  spsciallat  post. 

Catagorlas  Bla,  and  Bib  Indicata  that  tha  brokar  d«alar  aay 
handia  tha  ordar  aa  an  agant  (not  talcing  a  part  of  tha  trada  on 
Ita  ovn  account) ,  or  in  contrast  as  in  tha  abova  axaapla,  tha 
fira  Bay  ba  acting  aimiltanaously  as  a  principal  and  an  agant  in 
axacutlng  tha  custOBar's  ordar.  In  tha  situation  whara  tha 
brokar/daalar  acta  as  both  a  principal  and  an  agant,  it  la 
angaglng  In  uhat  I  call  alBultanaous  dual  trading.  In  tha  casa 
whara  It  axacutas  this  custMar'a  ordar  aa  an  agant,  it  Bay  ba 
engaging  in  consacutiva  dual  trading,  ainca  at  seaa  othar  tlBa  it 
nay  ba  trading  in  tha  atock  as  a  principal. 


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In  ordMT  to  turtliar  •uphkalt*  th«  distinction  batvMn  Uim* 
typ«s  ot  dual  trading,  Tabla  2  contain*  tha  additional  eatagory, 
B3  of  * broker/ tradar' .  A  brokor/tradar  1*  a  Cloor  tradar  vhe 
aoaatl>a*  tradaa  en  hla  own  account  aa  principal,  and  at  ottiar 
tl>os  tradoa  aa  a  brokar  for  euatoaara.  Ra  la  not  a  "daalar"  In 
that  ba  dooa  not  tak*  tbo  othar  aid*  at  custoaar  tradaa.  Ra  la  a 
cenaacutlva  dual  tradar  but  net  a  almltanaeua  dual  trader.  As 
noted  aerller,  conaacutlva  doal  trading  la  paraitted  on  futuraa 
■arketa,  but  slaultanaous  doal  trading  la  not  peialttad.  in 
contraat,  botb  typaa  of  dual  trading  ooenr  en  tha  door:  of 
aaeurltloa  Bachangaa. 

Tha  final  category  of  Table  t,  lebelled  13,  conceme  tha 
situation  where  a  dealgnatad  Barket  Baker  handlea  the  cuatcaar 
order.  For  exaapla,  en  tha  nsi,  the  ivatalra  broker  nay  give 
the  "epeclallet"  (who  1*  a  brokar'a  broker,  and  a  markat  aakar  on 
tha  nSE  door)  a  oustoaar  order,  the  epeeUllst  asy  handle  this 
order  aa  an  agent  and  find  the  other  aide  of  tha  trade  aaong 
ether  floor  brekara  (oategeiy  >3a  In  Tabla  3).  On  tha  othar 
hand,  the  apaciallat  aey  act  aa  a  prlnolpal,  and  take  tha  other 
side  of  tha  trade  en  Ita  own  Boooant.  Thus  the  ^eelallat  can 
engage  in  aiBMltaweeua  dual  trading. 


A  cuatoaer'e  order  for  eacurltlea  or  futuree  viil  uaually  be 
handled  by  flras  engaged  In  dual  trading.  This  Is  the  eana  at 
the  "ivetalra-  level  where  the  cuataaer  order  arrlvae  et  a 


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•ach  of  wh™  trad*! 

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trading  CI 
■psciatisC,  brokar/ 

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Cacllitiaa  (or  trad; 
provlda  high  qualll 


■laalon  Marohant  (FCK), 
■  wall  aa 


'downatalra'  laval  on  tlia 

OEdar  i>  handlad  by  a 

daalar,  ar  brokar/tradar,  vach  af  whoB  angagaa 

ba  aurprlBing  that  Ciraa  irtilcb  davalop 
ig  on  thalr  own  account  will  alao  ba  abla  to 
/    axacutlona  Cor  ciistoaara.    In  tha  naxt 
axplain  wby  It  Is  tha  c«aa  that  good  axacutlon*  oC 
cuatoaar  ordara  oftan  Involva  aubatantial  trading  akilla. 


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4.  Th«  P*t»r»l ■■..^y.  of  tttrkat  Llnuidltv  and  BrolfrMM  Sarvieaa 
4A.  BroltT»g«  STvicaa 

Conaldar  a  euatoaar  who  da*lr*B  to  trad«.  Ha  nay  daalr* 
"daalar"  and/oc  "brokaraqa"  sarvlcaa.  Ma  will  aaa  balow  that  it 
can  BOBatimaa  ba  ditClcult  to  dlatingulah  daalar  from  brokaraqa 
aarvlcaa.  Thara  aca  thraa  typaa  at  ■braKacaga'  aarvlcaa  ttia 
ctiBteaar  naads.  Tha  first  sarvlca  ('aaarch')  invalvaa  aaarchinq 
Cor  tha  partlaa  who  ara  Intaraatad  In  bainq  on  tha  othar  aida  at 
cha  trada  (l.a. ,  th*  contra-party) .  Tha  aacend  aarvica 
("tialng")  Invoivaa  obtaining  and  procaaaing  intorBBtlon.  to 
dataiBlna  bow  long  to  uale  tor  tha  arrival  of  tba  Boat 
advantaqaoua  contra-party  whlla  balng  axpoaad  to  tha  riak  ot  an 
advsraa  prica  Bova.  na  third  aarviea  ('bargaining*}  Involvaa 
actlvaly  bargaining  aaong  availabla  eontra-partlaa  to  obtain  tha 
baat  prlca. 

Tha  abova  thraa  actlvitiaa  (or  aarvlcaa)  aira  parfonad  In 
obvious  ways  in  aoBa  aaxkata,  but  In  a  aubtla  Bannar  In  othar 
■arkata.  For  axa^la,  tha  Bala  of  a  heuaa  oftan  raqulraa  Cha  uaa 
et  a  brokar  who  advartiaaa  tha  houaa  and  aaarchaa  for  buyara. 
Tha  ownar  of  tha  houaa  «uat  daclda  whathar  to  accapt  tha  tint 
ottar  ha  raeaivaa  or  dalay  cha  aala  until  othar  potantlal  buyara 
(hopatuXIy  villtng  to  pay  Bora  than  tha  currant  buyar)  ara  found. 
Finally,  tha  aallar  aust  bargain  'a>ong  tha  buyara  to  try  to 
obtain  tha  highaat  prica. 
Brokaraoa  a.prtc.a  Tof   Inatitutional  aacurltlaa  Cuatotra 

Tha  inatitutional  aacuritiaa  Barkat  provldaa  ■ 


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of  brokaraga  aarvlcaa.  a  portfolio  Bonagar  nay  daatira  to  hadga 
hla  portfolio  of  atocka  buy  purchaalng  put  optlona.  Ha  alght 
want  10,000  SPX  Indait  options.  Thaaa  optlona  trad*  on  tha  CBOB, 
and  tha  typical  trading  voluaa  In  tba  particular  option  of 
intaraat  Bight  ba  1,000  optlona  par  day,  and  tha  quotation  on  tha 
option  say  ahov  100  optlona  offarad  at  93.00  par  option.  Tba 
portfolio  aanagar  will  call  tha  indax  products  dapartaant  of  a 
brokar/daalar.  Tha  brokar  will  call  Ita  tradar  on  tha  Exchanga 
floor  to  ascartain  at  what  pxica  10,000  option*  can  ba  purcbaaad 
on  tha  floor.  Typically,  tha  pcica  will  ba  hlghar  than  tba  Si.OO 
•hown  on  tha  quotation  acraan  at  irtilch  only  100  optlona  wara 
offarad  for  aala.  At  thia  point,  tha  brokar  will  uaa  Ita 
knowlodga  of  Ita  othar  custoaara'  trading  daalraa  to  aaareh  for  a 
battar  prlca  than  la  balng  offarad  on  tha  floor.  It  may  find 
cuatoaars  willing  to  aall  9,000  optlona  at  S3. 00.  It  »ay  than 
"accoaaodata"  tha  cuatoaar  by  sailing  900  optlona  froa  ita  oun 
account.  Tha  brokar  will  than  bring  tha  ordar  down  to  tha  floor 
of  tha  CBOE  and  bid  tor  10,000  optlona  for  a  prlca  of  S3. 00. 
Aaaualng  that  tha  crowd  on  tha  trading  floor  la  atill  only  . 
otfaring  100  optlona,  tha  brokar  will  aall  900  froa  Ita  own 
account,  and  9,000  froa  ita  othar  cuatoaara,  affactlvaly  eroaaing 
tba  ordar  on  tha  Exchanga  floor.  Hot*  that  tha  brokar  angagod  in 
a  daalar  function  in  ordar  to  battar  provida  brokaraga  aarvicaa 
to  ita  oustoaar. 

It  ahould  ba  aaphaalaad  that  tha  "saarcb"  function  1* 
Intlaataly  ralatad  to  tha  "tlalng"  function.    Tha  cuatoaar  la 


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•ubl«et  to  th«  rick  that  th«  urlMt  will  mov  agmln^  hla  wblla 
h«  trlaa  to  gat  a  battar  pric*  than  la  cucrantly  gffarad  an  tha 
BKChanf*  tor  tha  lacga  nuabor  of  optlona  which  ha  is  attoaptlnq 
CO  buy.  Ka  alaa  baar*  thifc  riak.  If  ha  and  tha  brokar  angaqa  in 
bargaining  to  attaapt  to  gat  a  higbar  prico.  It  la  crucial  that 
bis  brokar  hava  ■  ■taal"  tor  tba  potantlal  prlca  aavaaanta,  and 
alae  knewladga  about  tha  prieaa  at  which  hia  own  euatoaars  ara 
willing  to  aall.  It  tba  brokar  acta  aa  a  daalar  by  aalling  bom 
optioiia  fro*  hia  own  aeeount  to  aeee^ndata  tha  ouatoaar,  than  bo 
■uat  alao  ba««  tha  aaaa  kinda  ot  biowlodga  and  ability.  ;  To 
BU^Mrisa,  tha  inatitutional  brokaraga  funotion  will  ba  partoiaad 
■eat  attactivaly  by  a  fira  with  tba  akilla  and  knowiadgo  et  a 
tradar.  For  tradaa  wkid  cannot  aiaply  ba  aant  to  tba  Cxcbanga 
ter  iaaadlata  amcutloa  <t.a.,  ■■  a  "karkat"  ordar),  tha  brokar 
ia  not  aaraly  a  olark.  Ka  auat  angaga  In  all  ot  tba  aetivitiaa, 
and  bava  all  «t  tba  akilla  at  a  tradar. 

Tba  aaarch  tvnotion  ia  «van  aoro  inportant  for  tbo  narkat  in 
individnal  Lo—an  ataek.  A  boyar  of  a  larga  block  et  coaaen 
atoek  Buat  oftan  find  aallara  off  of  tha  txehango  floor.  Bara 
again  tba  infenatien  larokara  hava  about  aallara  will  bo  crucial. 
rtrat,  tba  brokan  ean  raviaw  public  docnsanta  wbieh  provida  tho 
naaaa  of  larga  Inatitutional  holdara  of  tho  ateck.  Tha  brokar 
can  than  aolielt  Mlliag  intaraat  frea  thoa.  Sacond,  tha 
brokaraga  fira  ean  call  upon  tba  knowladg*  of  ita  aalaa  tore* 
which  ataya  in  day-to-day  contact  with  invaatera,  and  thua  eoaaa 
to  know  aoMthing  about  who  ia  willing  to  aall  and  at  what  priea. 


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In  th«  B*eurlti«*  narlcat  a  brokar  can  dlrac^ly  contact 
potantial  trading  partnara  who  are  not  ptaaant  on  tha  Exchange 
floor  and  ha  ia  tharaby  abla  to  gain  tnfomation  for  his  cuatoner 
about  tha  coats  and  benafita  of  da  lay.  Tha  fact  that  it  la 
poaalbla  and  nacaaaary  to  gain  off-floor  inforaatlon 
diatlnguiahaa  tha  actlvltlaa  and  nacaaaary  akilla  of  aacurltlaa 
brolcera,  froa  futurea  brokara.  Though  any  floor  brokar  can 
coBBunlcBta  with  hia  upataira  offica,  futurea  aarkata  ara 
diatlnguiahad  froB  aacurltlaa  sarkata  by  tha  fact  that  prica 
dlacovary  occur*  axcluaivaly  on  tha  trading  floor  tor  futuraa, 
whlla  prica  dlacovary  occur a  upataira  aa  wall  as  downstalt*  in 
tha  aacurltlaa  aarkat.  Dnlika  aacurltlaa  brokara,  futuraa 
brokers  cannot  aacratly  praarrang*  tradaa  upataira,  and  thua  tha 
futuraa  floor  broker  auat  trade  In  auch  a  way  aa  to  bring  tha 
Dthar  aide  down  to  tha  trading  floor,  aa  ia  analyzed  below. 

Brokaraoa  sarvjeaa  for  Futuraa  cuatoiaara. 

consider  a  grain  atorage  tltm  which  deairaa  to  hadga  Its 
poaition.  Tha  brolcar  who  raceivea  this  order  will  tranaalt  it  to 
tha  futures  Buchange.  He  Is  prohibited  by  ragulationa  fron 
working  the  order  "upstairs".  The  broker  who  executes  the  trade 
on  the  trading  floor  mat  carry  the  full  burden  of  "search", 
"tleing",  end  "bargaining".  For  cuaBpla,  if  the  order  ia  to  sell 
3  ■illion  buahels  at  a  tisa  whan  only  100,000  bushels  era  being 
bid  tor  $3.00,  then  the  floor  broker  euat  trade  in  auch  a  way 
that  ha  Inducaa  buyera  who  eay  be  "upstairs"  to  send  orders  to 


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th«  floor.  This  iB  >n  iBpllclt  fona  of  ■■■■rch".  Tha  brokar 
could  Blaply  announca  chat  ha  haa  ]  allllon  to  lall,  and  hop* 
that^  tha  othar  floor  broKara  will  call  potantial  cuateaars 
'upatalra'  Co  Induca  buylnq.  Howavar,  unllica  sacuritia*. 
coBBOdlCy  futuras  brokara  aay  hava  !«••  Intoraation  about  ttaalr 
custoaar*  undarlylng  Intaraat  In  particular  poaltiona.  Thla 
lntor«atlon  la  oCtan  proprietary  and  atroitgly  ralatad  to  tha 
undarlylnq  bualnaaa  oparation  of  tha  coaaodltlaa  cuatoaar.  nnw, 
tha  only  aftact  of  announcing  chat  ha  haa  ]  ■llllon  bnahala  to 
•all  will  ba  to  cBuaa  a  larga  tall  In  prlea  which  will  gtwa...tha 
cuatoBar  a  poor  (it  any)  aiiacutlon. 

Tha  situation  Is  furthar  coapllcatad  by  tha  fact  that  tha 
cuatosar  aay  ba  baaring  axtraaa  rlak  whlla  tha  brokar  dalaya  tha 
axacutlon  of  tha  trada  in  an  attaapt  to  gat  a  battar  prlea.  Tha 
fact  that  futuraa  cuatosars  ara  oCtan  hadging  undarlylng 
coBBodlcy  or  aacurltiaa  posltlona  aaans  that  thay  can  faea 
graatar  rlak  troa  dalayad  axaeatlens  than  a  saourltias  eastoasr. 
In  tha  abova  axaapla,  tha  grain  atoraga  flra's  overall 
profitability  will  autfar  graatly  If  grain  pricaa  fall  bafora  It 
can  hadga  Ita  Inrantory. 

ma  floor  brokar  can  aall  bom  futnraa,  parhapa  dstvlng  fu 
prtca  down  a  littla.  Tha  fall  in  prioa  cMMinieatas  -through 
pricaa'  that  tha  aarkat  naads  buyara.  Tha  pricaa  at  wbtdl  tradaa 
occur  on  tha  Exchanga  ara  cosaunlcatad  to  tha  world.  A  wiatfar 
(oft  of  tha  Citcbanga  floor]  who  waa  not  intaraatad  in  baying  at 
tha  pravlouB  prlca  Bay  bacoM  intaraatad  in  buying  attar  aaaing 


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Cradas  at  lowar  prlcaa.  Tha  floor  brokar  1*  thutf  uaing  bla 
trading  to  Indirectly  coBBUnlcata  with  potantial  cuatonara  who 
ara  off  of  tha  trading  floor.  Thia  ia  an  altarnative  aachanian 
to  that  which  occura  in  tha  trading  of  aBcuritiea  whara  Buch 
eoBjiimication  occura  upataira  on  tha  talaphona  batwaan  broKara 
and  thair  cuatoaara. 

Tha  Cuturaa  brokar  attanptinq  to  aall  3  nilllon  buahala  will 
aonatinas  find  it  nacaaaary  to  diaguiaa  tha  trua  intantion  and 
•ira  of  hia  ordar.  Ho  buyar  wanta  to  buy  froB  tha  brokac  ]uat 
batora  tha  brokar  aalla  2  nilllon  buahala.  A  brokac  tAto  kaapa 
selling  in  an  attenpt  to  ganarat*  buying  Intaraat  can  actually 
cauaa  buying  Intaraat  to  diaappaar.  For  thia  caaaon  a  brokar  aay 
tind  it  advantageous  to  occaaional  intaraperaa  hi*  cuatonar  aall 
ordar*  with  buy  ocdara  (or  hia  personal  account.  This  helps 
diaguiaa  hi*  Intantlona.  Tha  aftactiva  axacutlon  of  tha  cuatoaar 
ordar  involvaa  a  aubtla  interplay  between  coa>unicating  a  daalra 
to  sell  in  an  atteapt  to  attract  buyers,  while  dlsguiaing  tba 
Cull  size  of  the  order. 

The  floor  broker  on  tha  Cutucaa  aarket  can  only  bargain  with 
thoae  preaant  on  tha  floor.  At  each  atage  of  the  execution  of 
hi*  cuatoaar'B  order  he  can  accept  the  blda  currently  being  aada, 
or  ha  can  aaka  a  countar-ofCar.  He  bargains  through  open  outcry 
with  tha  trading  crowd  on  the  Exchange  floor.  This  is  in 
contrast  with  the  seourltlaa  Market,  where  a  floor  broker  can 
seek  batter  bids  'upstair*". 

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futnr**  Baxkat  sust  h«va  all  of  skills  ot  ■  good  trader  in  ordar 
to  9iva  hit  cuatnar  a  high  quality  axacutlon.  A  paraon  who 
tradaa  for  hi*  own  account  on  th«  Exchanqa  door  aakaa  aonay  by 
b«ln9  abla  to  judqa  whara  tha  sarkat  la  going  to  aova  In  tha 
short  run.  A  floor  brokar'a  graataat  taar  la  that  tha  aarkat 
will  Bova  away  troB  hi«  (tor  axaapla,  that  tha  axlatlng  blda  will 
dtsappsar  and  ba  raplaead  by  lowar  bida)  wblla  ha  da lays 
axaeutlon  of  hla  cuatoaar'a  ordar  In  an  attaapfc  to  gat  hia  a 
battar  prica.  Tha  ability  to  ]udga  abort  run  aarkat  aovawanta  !■ 
thua  at  tha  aaaanca  of  baing  a  good  flotw  brokar  and  balng  a  good 


Am  dlatinct  charaetarlatica  of  a  futures  karkat  laply  that 
a  futuraa  brokar  auat  babava  Ilka,  and  bava  all  tba  akllla  of  a 
tradar.  Thia  la  aueh  aora  Uia  eaaa  than  In  aacurltiaa  aarkata 
wbara  a  brokar  can  atfaet  a  good  oxacutlon  tor  hla  cuatoaar  by 
tho  uaa  of  a  Its  upotatra  aalaa  (ere*  which  bring*  both  aidaa  of 
th*  trada  togathor.  Tba  koy  akill*  If  tha  floor  trador  ara 
■tlaing"  and  'bargaining'  -  tbao*  ara  uaad  in  plaea  of  upatalra 
■■aarcb'  to  obtain  •  contra  party  for  hia  custonar  at  th*  baat 


Tha  quality  at  brekaraga  aarvieoa  ia  only  on*  of  tha 
dataralnanta  of  tha  quality  of  ordar  axacutlon.  k  ouatonar  can 
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s  tha  trad«  Im  illiquid,  than  it  will  b*  veiy  d:tfflcult  to 
qat  a  good  axacutlon.  Tharafora  an  undarstanding  of  tha  quality 
of  customer  ordar  axacutlon  raquiraa  an  undarstanding  of  tha 
datarainanta  of  narKat  liquidity. 

Claarly,  sarkat*  aarva  tha  function  of  anabllng  partiaa  to 
angaq*  in  trada.  Houavar  ttiia  ia  not  tha  only  function  of 
markata.  Marhata  aarva  a  prlca  dlacovacy  function:  providing  and 
agqragatlng  Intornation  accoaa  both  activa  and  Inactiva  aarkat 
participants. 

Thaaa  points  can  ba  clarifiad  by  tauporarily  Baking  tha 
folloulng  artificial  distinctions.  Dlvlda  ttia  potantial  Barkat 
participants  into  thraa  groupst  brokars,  aarkat  aakars  and  final 
custonars.  Pura  bcokar*  ara  agants,  who  by  datlnition.  navar 
taka  a  position  in  tha  instcmwnt  balng  tradad,  and  I  hav« 
dlscuBsad  tha>  axtansivaly  in  tha  pravious  saction.  Karkst 
■aKsra,  by  dafinitlon,  taka  a  position  only  for  short  tarm 
trading  profits,  1.*.,  tha  avaraga  ratum  frOB  a  position  hald 
for  tha  long  run  will  not  raward  thas  tor  tha  risk  of  capital 
cosalttad  ovar  tha  long  run  ralativa  to  othar  usas  thay  havs  for 
thalr  capital.  Final  custoaars,  by  daflnltion,  ara  willing  to 
accapt  tha  avaraga  ratums  for  tha  risk  of  thalr  positions  ovar 
tha  long  run,  and  ara  trad inn  parhapa  with  grsat  currant 
iBBSdiacy  to  achiava  that  oca it ion.  This  division  ot  actors  la 
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Tha  final  cuacoaar  could  ba  a  bond  daalar  who  attlla  bond 
Cuturaa  to  hadga  •  percfollo  of  benda  in  itm  Invantory.  Tha 
cuat«*ar  taeaa  tha  rlak  that  bond  prioaa  will  fall  batora  ba  la 
•bl«  to  Mil  tha  bonda  In  hla  Invantory-  Ha  iiwuraa  Agalnat  thia 
risk  by  aalling  bond  futuraa.  Ha  baara  tha  rlak  of  a  prtea  fall 
whila  bia  brokar  attanpta  to  till  hia  ordar  on  tha  Ixcttang* 
floor.  ntia  custoBar  say  ba  willing  to  accapt  no  caturKi  on 
»vr«^  froH  baing  abort  tha  bond  tutura.  Ha  ta  willing  to  taka 
a  laro  or  avan  nagativa  aapactad  ratum  poaition  bag  Hi—  of  tba 
Inauranc*  providad  by  tba  poaition.  In  particular.  If  bond 
prioaa  riaa,  than  hia  loaaoa  en  tha  bond  futuraa  ara  offaat  by 
gaina  on  tba  bond  invantory. 

in  tha  aaouritiaa  narkat,  tha  final  cnatoaar  night  ba  a 
nonay  nanagar  who  wanta  to  add  a  partlenlar  Induatry  gr«9  to  it* 
portfolio  of  flBMiaw  atoek.  Ibis  typa  of  i 
i^Mdlaey  of  ordar  axaeution  than  doaa  tba  I 
ia  trodtng  to  hadpa  a  poolfclen.  nw  nonay  nanagar  doaa  not  bold 
a  lar9a  greyp  of  aanata  that  aro  naaaaaarily  polnp  to  anjoy  a 
prica  nova  in  tha  TP"'**  *'■•■«*'«■  tren  tha  prion  nova  in  tha 
atoek*  that  ara  balng  purebaaad.  Ilioagh  thara  nay  ba  aoaa 
divaraifioatlen  aftoet  loading  to  a  risk  roduotlon  frea  a 


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■•curitias  trad*,  it  tands  to  ba  Buoh  nullar  than  i 
raduetion  aftactad  by  a  coBBOdity  futuraa  badqa. 


Tba  narkat  aakar  could  ba  a  daalac  buying  at  a  prlc*  fron 
which  It  Bxpacta  hlqb  abnoraal  ratuma.  Tha  >arkat  aakar  buy* 
tha  inatnuoant  in  altuationa  Hhan  tha  prlca  la  ta>porarily  lew, 
whlla  tha  final  cuatoaar  buya  tba  inatruBant  bacauaa  (a]  tba  lang 
run  avaraqa  ratum  la  high  ralatlva  to  ita  riak,  or  (b)  tba 
raduetion  in  rlak  of  hla  ovarall  portfolio  co^anaataa  for  Cha 
lav  axpactad  ratum  of  buying  tha  InatrwMnt.  Mora  pcaciaaly, 
tha  aarkat  aakar  takaa  poaltiona  bacauaa  of  tha  yf  ^'^'t^-^-^T  !■> 
tha  airoactad  ratum  C  buying  idian  axpactad  ratuma  ara  high  and 
aalllng  «h*n  axpactad  catuma  ara  low),  vhlla  tha  final  cuatoaar 
takaa  poaltiona  baaad  upon  tha  long  run  avaraqa  axpactad  ratum. 
Many  trading  inatitutiona  wbo  ara  uaually  final  cuatoaara  in  tha 
abova  dafinltlon,  will  function  aa  aarkat  aakara  whan  thara  ara 
claar  varlationa  In  axpactad  ratuma.  For  axaapla  an  SCP  500 
Indax  Fund  aay  aubatituta  futuraa  tor  atock  whan  futuraa  ara 
trading  at  a  dlaoount  ralativa  to  atock.  Tba  fund  ia  taking  a 
poaltion  in  tha  apraad  bacauaa  tha  apraad  baa  a  taaporarily  high 
(rlak  adjuatad)  axpactad  ratum. 

TO  battar  undaratand  tha  rol*  of  aarkat  aakara,  conaldar  tha 
following  axaMpla.  For  raaaona  uncalatad  to  infonutlon  about 
tutura  payoff a,  a  group  of  aqnlty  holdara  daalcaa  to  aall  a 
Bubatantlal  block  of  aqulty.  Aasma  that  a  nagliglbla  prlca  fall 


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would  ba  rsqulrAd  to  induc«  tha  rast  of  th«  aconoBy  to  Incraaaa 
Ita  aqulty  holding  by  tha  aaount  that  1*  to  ba  lold.  That  la,  It 
final  buyara  could  bo  aatchad  with  final  sallars,  than  thara 
would  ba  no  prlca  l«p«cc  of  th«  trada.  Howavar,  tha  potantlal 
final  buyara  ara  dlaparaad  throughout  tb«  acenoay  (If  not  ch« 
world) ,  and  ara  not  In  constant  eoBBunleatlen  with  tha  aarkat.  A 
aarkat  aakar  will  buy  tha  offarad  atock  into  bia  invantory  to 
bridqa  th«  tlaa  intarval  batwaan  th*  arrival  ot  tha  aallara  and 
buyara.  Ka  baara  rlak  whila  tha  atock  ia  In  hla  invantorVi  and 
hane*  suat,  on  avaraga  an]oy  a  raward. 

A  Mrkat  Mkar  (or  final  cuatoaar,  bahavlng  lika  a  aarkat 
■akar)  buy*  whan  axpcetad  ratuma  ara  high  (ralativa  to  tha 
nerBal  riak  adjuatad  ratum  tor  tha  aaaat) ,  and  aalla  whan 
axpactad  ratuma  ara  low.  A  larga  unanticlpatad  flow  of  sail 
ordara  which  eceun  in  tha  abaanea  ot  InforBation  about  tutur* 
payofta,  will  lowar  priea  and  ralaa  axp*ctad  ratuma  (in  tha 
abaanca  ot  aarkat  aakar  Intarvantien) .  It  la  tb*  fall  in  prlca, 
in  tha  abaanca  ot  nawa,  which  aignala  to  tha  *arkat  aakara  (and 
avantually  tha  final  buyara)  that  thair  intarvantlon  la 
nacasMEy.  Tha  prle*  aewa  ia  a  crucial  aignal  (or  allocating 
rasonroaa.  Tha  buying  activity  of  Mrlwt  nakara  trying  t«  taka 
advantags  of  tha  high  axpactad  ratuma  will  dialniah  tha  aita  ot 
tba  prlca  fall,  and  thua  atabiliia  tha  aarkat. 

Karkat  aakara  angaga  in  axactly  tha  aaaa  activitiaa  in  tha 
futuraa  aarkat.  Tha  only  laportant  diatinction  for  our  purpoaaa 
la  that  tha  activity  only  occura  on  tha  EKChanga  trading  floor  in 


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th«  ea«a  of  futuraa,  whlla  it  can  alao  occur  otf  of  t9ia  Bxchaitga 
floor  In  th«  caaa  of  aacuritiaa.  Tharafora  tha  Barlcat  nakara  on 
the  floor  of  a  (ueuraa  Exchang*  ara  tha  only  aourca  of  liquidity 
tor  a  futuraa  custonar,  whlla  thar*  ara  alao  off-floor  aourcaa  of 
liquidity  for  aacucltiaa  euatoBara. 

Marlcata  a»  Inforaation  Convavora 

Tha  idaal  aarkat  would  ba  ona  In  which  avaryona  In  tha 
aeonoiiy  could  coatlaaaly,  af  fortlaaaly,  and  contlnuoualy 
partlclpata.  In  auch  an  idaal  aarkat  thara  would  ba  no  brolnra 
(and  thay  auraly  would  dlaagraa  with  thla  daCinltlon  of  idaal) , 
bacauaa  chara  would  ba  no  aaarch  for  contra-partiaa.  Thara  would 
alao  ba  no  aarkat  aakara,  ainca  no  ona  ia  naadad  to  bridga  tha 
gap  in  tiaa  baewaan  cha  arrival  of  buyara  and  aallara  at  tha 
narkatt  all  potential  buyara  and  aallara  ara  alwaya  coatlaaaly 
and  sffortlaaaly  preaant.  Dnfartunataly,  dlacuaaiona  of  Idaal 
narkata  can  ba  atarlla,  aa  I  faal  ara  dlacuaaiona  about  Ideal 
worlda  without  vara,  aarthquakaa,  bad  wa«thar,  oc  govamaent 
ragulatora . 

A  aajor  factor  which  oauaaa  aarketa  to  deviate  troa  the 
ideal  ia  the  fact  that  continuoua  participation  and  infonutlen 
ratrlaval  and  evaluation  la  neither  affortleaa  nor  coetleaa.  If 
ona  party  vanta  to  aell,  tbia  inforaation  ie  not  coatlaaaly 
dieaaainatad  to,  and  proceaaed  by  all  potential  buyara.  Noea 
Inportantly  no  a ingle  peraen  ia  being  aade  aware  of  tha 
collective  deaand  and  aupply  achedulea  of  the  reat  of  the  aarket. 


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TIM  fact  that  w*  an  not  all  part  of  this  fantaatlcj  talapathic 
natwork  eraataa  tha  naad  for  Inlonatlmi  t«  b*  pnvidad  by 
■arttata  and  broXar/daalara,  aa  wall  aa  tha  naad  tor  aarkat 

Harkat  aakan  taka  a  pealtion  In  tha  instniMnt,  and  bridga 
tha  gap  in  tiaa  batvaan  tha  arrival  of  tha  final  aallara  and 
buyara.  In  tha  abaanea  of  a  larva  aupply  of  aarkat  aakara,  a 
cuatoaar  ecdar  will  hava  a  larga  "aarkat  i^»act"  coat  of 
axactttlen.  Thia  coat  la  tha  fall  in  prlca  eauaad  by  a  aallara 
da«and  for  inadiata  ordar  axacntien,  and  tha  rlaa  In  priea 
oauaad  by  a  bwyara  dwand  far  tmadiata  ordar  axaeutten. 

Iba  aarkat  ti^aet  of  a  trada  claarly  dapanda  on  how  tha 
trada  ia  avaoutad.  ntara  ara  two  raaaona  for  thia.  rirat,  ordara 
wbtoh  dwand  iaaadiata  axaeution  eonray  inforaation  to  othar 
partleipanta.  Ibrkat  participanta  know  that  ana  raaaon  that  a 
tradar  daaanda  iMMdtata  axaeution  1*  that  ha  haa  inforaation, 
thay  thna  affar  to  trada  at  advaraa  pricaa  with  tha  tradar  wtto 
daaanda  liMadiaoy.  of  couraa,  laaadiaey  aay  ba  ■*—-—*-■■  for 
othar  raaaona,  aoA  aa  a  liquidity  or  hadging  naad.  Tha  waight 
put  on  tba  iBferaatloa  aotlvatlon  for  tha  trada  will  datamina 
tha  alia  af  tba  aazkat  i^aot  of  tba  trada.  Iba  aarkat  iapaet  of 
a  trada  lirinlT  on  tha  aathad  by  wtaieh  it  ia  axaeutad  for  a 
aacend  raaaon,  na»aly  if  a  final  anato*ar  ia  not  praaant  to  taka 
tb«  othar  aida  of  tha  trada,  than  aaaaona  mat  aam  a  ratum  trea 
taking  tha  otbar  aida  of  tha  ordar  Into  hla  invantory.  Thia 
ratnm  ia  to  eovar  tha  riaka  and  othar  eoata  of  aaintainlng  an 


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invantory,  and  tha  Mirkat  nakar  aams  thia  ratum  by.  taking  tha 
othar  alda  of  tha  trada  at  an  advaraa  prica  to  tha  ciutoaar. 
Thla  advaraa  prlea  movb  la  tha  Barkat  lapact  of  tha  trada. 

Tha  graatar  ara  tha  nunbar  of  narkat  nalcara,  tha  anallar 
vill  b«  tha  aarkat  lapaet  of  a  glvan  custoaar  ordar.  Th*  ispact 
ia  aaallar  not  only  baeauaa  of  tha  incraaaad  coapatition,  but 
alao  bacauaa  aach  aarkat  aekar  can  taka  a  aaallar  traction  of  tha 
euatoaar'a  ordar  Into  hi«  Invantory  whan  thar*  ara  aora  aarhat 
■akara.  Tha  aaallar  la  tha  poaition  that  a  aarkat  aakar  la  aakad 
to  tak*.  tha  Bora  willing  ha  la  to  trada  at  a  prlea  which  doaa 
not  diaadvantaga  tha  cuatoaar  (for  axaapla.,  >  aarkat  aakar  will 
ba  willing  to  buy  at  a  hlghar  prlea,  th*  l«aa  h*  la  aakad  to  buy, 
alnca  ha  haa  a  aaallar  Invantory  and  thus  laaa  riak) . 

Tha  nuabar  of  aarkat  aakara  avallabla  to  taka  tha  othar  alda 
of  a  cuatoaara  trada  will  ba  dataralnad  by  tha  coata  and  banafita 
of  aarkat  aakar  activitiaa.  Tha  caata  of  aarkat  asking  Involva 
<a)  tha  coat  of  capital  to  carry  (or  aargin)  poaitlonat 

(b)  tha  coata  of  training; 

(c)  tha  coat  of  tha  tlaa  apant  on  tha  trading  floor. 

Anything  which  radueaa  tha  coat  of  aarkat  asking  will  ralaa 
aarkat  liquidity,  and  lowar  tha  aarkat  iapact  coat  to  cuatoaara 
of  aftactlng  thair  tradaa. 


Tha  quality  of  axacutlon  availabla  to  a  cuatoaar  will  dapand 
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aa  tha  undarlylnq  liquidity  of  tha  a«r>tat  In  which  ,h«  tradaa. 
Tha  floor  brokaraqa  aarvicaa  naadad  by  a  Cuturaa  cusCoaar  Involva 
tria  brokar  In  tha  uaa  of  trading  cachnlqua*  which  only  a  akillad 
tradar  will  hava  aaatarad.  Tha  (1)  inability  to  praarranqa 
tradaa  'upatalra'  for  futuraa  cuatoBara  and  (3)  tha  qraafe  dawind 
for  laaadlacy  Inharant  in  a  hadqa  tranaactlon,  laply  that  floor 
tradinq  •kllla  ara  ralatlvaly  aora  laportant  to  tha  typical 
futuraa  euatoaar  than  to  tha  typical  aacucitlaa  cuatoaar. 
rurthar,  tha  abova  two  charactariatlca  of  futuraa  trading  alao 
iaply  that  tha  liquidity  of  tha  Buchanga  floor  will  ba  ralativaly 
■era  Inportant  for  future*  than  tor  sacuritiaa  cuatoaar*. 
Anything  which  can  raduc*  tha  coat  of  aarkat  aaklng  will  thua 
tand  to  b«  ralatlvaly  vary  iiportant  for  achieving  quality 
futuraa  trada  axaeutioiw  tor  cuatoaara. 


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5.  Pual  Tradtim.  Wrt.t  Uouldltv.  »Hd  th«  Quality  of  pirolMraT« 

Tha  aconoalca  of  brokang*  sarvicAB  and  Barkat  liquidity 
outllnad  In  Section  4  provid*  tha  baaia  for  undaratandlng  ttia 
parvasivaiMsa  of  dual  trading  dlacuaaad  In  sactlon  3. 

Tha  praviouB  diaeuaalon  abowad  that  tha  akllla  of  tlalng  and 
bar9alning  ara  iaportant  both  (or  tha  brokar  In  gattlng  tha  baat 
anacution  tor  hia  cuatoaar  and  for  a  aarkat  aakar  trading  for  hia 
own  account.  It  ahould  ba  addad  that  a  brokar  nho  tradaa  tor 
cuatoaara  baara  riak.  Thla  rlak  occura  bacauaa  ha  agraaa  to 
axacuta  liait  ordara,  apraad  ordara,  and  atop  loaa  ordara  tar 
cuatoaara.  It  ha  falla  to  axacuta  thaaa  ordara  aa  agraad  than  ha 
will  hava  to  aaka  up  tha  loaaaa  to  hia  cuatoaar.'  tha 
inatltution  of  dual  trading  paralta  an  individual  t^  uaa  hia 
tlma,  akllla  and  riak  baarlng  capacity  for  two  activitlaa,  naMly 
■arkat  aaklng  and  cuatoaar  brokaraga.  In  ordar  to  angaga  in 
trading,  a  paraon  auat  baar  tha  coata  of  training,  an  Exchanga 
••at,  and  tha  tiaa  apant  on  tba  trading  floor.  A  ayataa  In  Hbicb 
tha  tradar  can  aam  a  ratum  froa  thaaa  coata  by  apraadinq  hia 
talant  and  anarglaa  ovar  two  actlvitiaa  will  olaarly  ancourava 
aora  paopla  to  ba  angagad  in  tha  actlvitiaa.  Tbua  tha 
inatltution  ot  dual  trading  Incraaaaa  both  tha  aupply  of  aarkat 
nakara  and  of  brokaca. 

Tbarafora  dual  trading  haa  both  a  dlract  and  an  indlract 

<  For  axaapla,  If  tha  brokar  accaptad  a  liait  ordar  to  buy 
at  a  prica  of  $3  or  balow,  and  a  trada  occura  at  $3.90 
aftarwarda,  and  than  all  tradaa  occur  at  pricaa  abova  S3. DO,  than 
tba  brokar  will  ba  bald  accountabla  by  hia  ouatoaar  for  a  prioa 
batwaan  S3. 90  and  S3. 00. 


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•<f*ot  on  th*  quality  of  euacoaar  aarvieaa.  Am  dlracc  atfact  la 
that  it  ineraaaaa  tha  pool  of  brekara  availabla  to  cuateaara  uho 
ara  aklllad  at  providing  tha  aacvleaa  ol  aaarch,  tlalnq,  and 
barqainlnq.  Tha  indtraet  attact  la  that  It  Incraasaa  tha  aupply 
of  markat  makara,  ao  tbat  avan  if  tha  euateaar'a  ordar  la  not 
axaeutod  by  a  dual  tradar,  bia  bcokar  will  ba  abla  to  provida  th* 
abova  aarvlcaa  at  lettar  coat  bacauaa  ot  tha  incraaaad  liquidity 
providad  by  tha  Ineraaaad  nuabar  of  aarkat  sakara. 

''''**  T^y^if-if—  -r   mm  Jj-^lwuf   In  FMtMT»«  Itorfcf 

Onal  trading  haa  a  particularly  important  function  in 
futuraa  Harkata  in  tha  Dnitad  Stataa  for  thraa  raaaona.  firat, 
varieua  ragulatlona  aaka  tha  Bachanga  floor  of  tha  futuraa  aarkat 
tha  only  focal  point  ot  trada.  lacond,  tha  natura  of  aany  typaa 
of  futuraa  tradaa  would  aaka  it  vary  difficult  to  aaarch  for 
centra-part  iaa  ■^pataira",  avan  If  audi  activltiaa  vara 
panittad.  Finally,  tha  high  dcqraa  of  i—adiacy  daaandad  by 
«any  futuraa  cuatoaara  both  tncraaaaa  tha  advantagaa  of  using  a 
akillad  floor  tradar  aa  a  brokar,  and  alao  tha  advantagaa  of 
having  a  liquid  ■arfeat  on  tha  bcbanga  floor.  Thasa  polnta  ar* 
alaboratad  npen  balow, 

Tfta  Iftfptifnoa  Floor  1^  a  Focal  Point  In  Futuraa  Warkata 

It  ia  a  violation  of  CFTC  ragulatlona  for  tradaa  to  ba 
arrangad  off  of  tha  trading  floor.  Ranca  tha  only  aourca  of 
liquidity  to  cuatoaars  la  tha  liquidity  provldad  on  tha  BKchang* 


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floor.  nils  should  ba  distingul*had  from  tha  sttuqtlon  vhlch 
ptavallB  In  sacuritlas  aarlcata.  a  aacurltlaa  ciutoaar  who,  for 
aiuBpla,  wants  to  aall  a  larga  block  of  stock  can  usa  tha 
aarvlca*  of  "upstaira"  brokara  to  saareh  (or  buyara  oft  o(  tha 
Exchanga  floor.  Evantuslly,  tha  brokar  will  find  buyara  and 
poBslbly  comlt  It*  ciun  capital  aa  a  buyar,  and  bring  tha  trada 
down  to  tha  floor  ot  tha  stock  Bxchanga  to  ba  crosssd.  Tha 
"upatairs"  saeurltla*  brokat  is  abl*  to  sasrch  for  buyars  without 
ravasling  to  tha  world  how  Buch  its  cuatoar  la  Intaraatad  in 
sailing.  Furthar,  ha  can  provlda  inforaation  to  his  custobar 
rsgarding  trhat  prlca  can  ba  obtainad  tor  tha  block.  In  a  futuras 
Barkat  this  typa  of  Infenutlon  csn  only  ba  obtainad  by  carafnl 
trading.  Thar*  is  a  graatar  burdan  nut  on  futuras  floor  brokars 
than  la  nut  cm  aaeurltiaa  floor  brokara.  Mrfonlng  th«  taaks  of 
tialng  and  bargaining  ara  mora  difficult  on  futuras  Bsrkata  than 
on  sacuritlaa  narkats  bacauss  tha  absanca  of  upstair a  saareh 
placsa  all  tha  buzdan  on  floor  brokar a.  In  particular,  tha 
futuras  brokar  Bust  aictcact  InfocBation  through  hla  trading  that 
would  hava  baan  . axtractad  by  tb*  aaeurltiaa  brokar  through 
talaphons  calla. 

Anothar  Iwortant  eonsaquanc*  of  tba  fact  that  tha  fukuraa 
pit  ia  tba  focal  point  ot  trad*  is  that  potantial  buyaca 
aallara  do  not  hava  to  aaarch  aseng  upataica  brokars  for  tb*  baat 
prlca;  thay  nasd  only  look  to  tba  trading  floor.   Though 
futuraa  floor  brokar  BUSt  wocH  bard  to  co^nuiieata  his  clian 
nead  to  tha  world  through  trading,  thla  has  tha  atCact 


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•nhanclnq  Ch«  valu*  to  tiM  world  of  tbo  obaorvod  prlq««  at  which 
tradas  occur  on  Uia  futuraa  floor,  l.o.,  prlc*  dlscovary  takaa 
placa  on  tha  trading  floor.  Tbla  la  in  eontraat  to  tha 
■acurltlaa  aarkat  wharo  Mieh  InatltutlMial  prloa  diacovary  takaa 
placa  in  aacrat  upstairs.  if  a  trsda  la  nagotlatad  upstairs, 
than  thla  la  dono  in  aacrot,  and  tba  roat  of  tba  world  is  not 
InCoraad  until  tha  trads  ia  brooght  down  to  tha  Ixcbangs  floor  to 

Tha  fact  thst  futurss  sarfeats  put  a  hsawy  buvdsn  on  floor 
brokora  Msans  that  tbsra  la  a  graator  nssd  tor  sklllsd  fl»or 
trsdara  In  auch  Bsrluta.  Tbs  skills  itaadad  by  a  floor  hrokoe  ara 
vary  aisllar  to  tha  akllls  naadaJ  by  soaiBwa  trading  for  hia  own 
account.  Tba  ability  to  loaattaaa  work  as  a  beokar  and  otbar 
tiaaa  work  as  a  trsdsr  laeraasss  tba  rswsrds  that  a  aklllad 
tradar  can  aarn,  and  hanca  Ineraassa  ths  mnbar  of  »vcb  tradars 
praaant  on  tha  Kxdianga  fltmr. 

It  Bhould  bo  ■^iliaalml  thst  tha  CFTC  ragnlationa 
prohibiting  "upatalrs"  trading  ars  not  ths  only  rsasmi  that  a 
futuraa  txchanga  tands  to  ba  sora  of  a  foeal  point  of  trada  than 
ia  tha  esas  for  a  atoek  Ixohangs.  Tbs  fact  that  a  focarss 
custoasr's  hsilaing  tit-'-  ara  Intlaatsly  rslatad  to  aacrot  aspscta 
of  its  businsss  will  Hks  it  rslstivsly  Mrs  ditflealt  for 
brokora  to  know  wtasrs  to  find  contn-psTtlss  to  a  futurss  trado, 
than  it  is  to  find  contra-pattisa  to  a  aaewltiaa  trada.  A  qraln 
aKportar  who  haa  juat  signsd  an  agvaMsnt  to  dollvsr  wbaat  to  a 
foralgn  country,  and  aay  thus  hava  a  grsat  daaira  to  hava  a  long 


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Cuturas  poaitlon,  will  not  tand  to  publiolia  tbia  tact.  This  is 
in  contrast  to  a  Bonay  Banagar  who  dasiras  to  add  an  industry 
group  to  its  portfolio  ovar  tha  naxt  faw  waaks.  Tha  lattar  la 
likaly  to  b«  cavaalad  to  aacuritias  brokars.  Thus  It  Is  Bora 
likaly  that  aaouritisa  brokars  know  whara  to  look  for  tha  "buy' 
slda  of  tha  trad*  In  tha  abova  sscuritlas  axan^la,  than  that  thay 
could  discovar  that  tha  grain  axportar  is  a  potantlal  buyer  in 
tha  co»odlty  axaapla.  Tha  contrast  Is  avan  aora  axtra>a  wban  a 
brokar  naads  to  find  ths  ssll  sida.  In  tha  caaa  of  coaaon  stock, 
tha  brokar  can  find  all  larqa  institutional  holdars  ot  tha  stock 
(froB  fora  13F  filling  aada  with  tha  SBC)  and  solicit  a  aala  froa 
thaa.  Ho  corrasponding  holdara  of  short  coaaodity  positions  naad 
an  1st.  Tha  vary  tact  that  thara  ara  "aharas  outstanding'  of 
aquitias  is  In  contrast  to  Cuturas  whara  "short'  and  "long' 
positions  Bust  ba  craatad  by  custoaar*.  Tha  sxistsnos  of  ths 
sharas  outstanding  craatss  sharaholdsra  (i-a.,  potential  sallara) 
who  can  ba  diractly  contaotad  by  brokars,  in  oontraat  to  futuraa 
whara  all  potantlal  oroators  of  "short"  positions  would  hava  to 
ba  contBctad  In  an  attaapt  to  tlad  a  sallar. 

Many  futuraa  ordara  ara  for  'spraad'  tradaa.  A  spraad  trada 
involvaa  sailing  ons  contract  and  buying  anothar  contract.  For 
axaapla  a  cuatoaar  currantly  holding  a  short  Traaauty  bond 
contract  for  Juna  auplration  aay  want  to  buy  ths  Juna  contract 
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buy  tiM  Juna/iapr  ibar  aprcad.  Thla  typa  of  trada  la  nry  i  \\m\  ii 
bacaua* ,  ucil  ttm  eoaaon  atack,  f utur*a  contracta  a^lra .  A 
cuatosar  who  vanta  to  aaincaln  hla  tiadgad  poaltton  suae  "roll" 
hla  poaltion  Into  tho  naxt  contract  Bonttt  (by  trading  out  of  hla 
peaitlon  In  tha  contract  wbtch  ia  about  to  axplra,  and 
•laultanaoualy  trading  Into  tho  ■>■•  poaltion  In  a  contract  with 
a  latar  a>plratlan} .  Hoto  tbat  tha  cuatoaac  will  glva  tha  ordar 
to  tho  brokar  aa  a  alngla  spraad  trad*,  rathar  than  aa  two 
aaparat*  tradas  bacaoaa  tho  euatoaar  doaa  not  want  to  boar  tha 
rlak  of  a  prlco  aeva  whlla  only  ooa  "log*  of  tbo  trada  la  b^lng 


tbo  cuatoaar'a  brokar  baa  two  ebelcoa  In  oxocutlng  a  aproad 
trod*.  Ro  can  trado  with  a  aai^cot  aakor  who  aolla  kla  tba  aproad 
at  a  apoeltlad  prloa,  or  ho  eon  "log-  tlw  trado  blaaolf  by,  tor 
oxaaplo,  soiling  tbo  Saptaabor  contract  first,  and  than  waiting 
for  a  propitious  tl«s  to  boy  tbo  Juno  contract.  For  oaa^lo, 
aupposo  tba  eusteaar  govs  hla  tbo  ordar  to  buy  tho  aproad  fox 
3/»  wbieb  aoans  to  pay  3/13  aera  for  tbo  Juno  contract  than  ho 
racolvao  froa  oolllng  tho  Soptoabor  ceatroct.  Aoro  aay  bo  a 
■arkot  oakor  en  tbo  floor  who  lo  willing  to  Mil  tbo  sproad  tor 
3/3).  Howowsr,  tbo  eaatoaor's  brokor  aoos  that  tbo  Juno  contract 
la  bolng  effforod  at  ••-07,  and  tbo  •aptaabor  eontraet  Is  bid  tor 
91-04  and  offorod  at  •••«•.*  So  ho  doeldos  to  boy  tho  Juno  for 
91-07  Inodiatoly,  and  otfor  tbo  •optoabor  at  9«-«9,  with  tho 
hopo  of  BBvlng  hla  cnatoaar  1/13.   If  ho  la  rl^t  In  his  Judgnont 

*  Hot*  that  9«-0«  aaana  96  and  fi/32. 


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Of  tha  sarkBt  Chan  ha  will  ba  abla  to  sail  tha  saptapbar  at  se- 
es, but  it  ha  la  wrong  than  ha  Bay  hav*  to  sail  at  96-04  or 
balow.  II  tha  aarkat  Bciva*  againat  hla  batora  ha  can  a«ll  tha 
saptambar  at  94-04,  than  ha  will  hava  to  pay  hla  cuatoaar  for  tha 
dlffaranca  batwaan  96-04  and  tha  prlca  ha  axacutaa  tha  trada. 

spraad  trading  la  inharantly  rl*)[y.*  A  good  brokar  i*  a 
tradar  aklllad  at  taking  tha  typaa  of  rlak  daacrlbad  abova.  Thla 
vary  apaclallEBd  trading  aklll  la  uaad  by  a  dual  tradar  to  trada 
for  hla  own  account  with  tha  brokara  for  othar  custoBara  who  do 
not  want  tha  riaka,  or  to  trada  for  hi*  own  euatoaara.  :  A 
particular  apraad  tradar  Bay  go  throu^i  parioda  whara  ha  haa  no 
custoBar  buainaaa,  but  la  abla  to  aupport  hlaaalf  by  trading  for 
hla  own  account.  Hhan  hia  cuatomars  naad  him  h*  ia  abla  to  atop 
trading  for  hia  own  account  and  provida  tha>  with  apraad 
brokaraga  aarvioaa.  Tha  inatltution  of  dual  trading  thua  put* 
Dora  apraad  tradara  on  tha  Bxchanga  floor  than  would  otharwiaa  ba 
praaant  bacauaa  it  givaa  aach  tradar  >ora  buainaaa  In  which  ha 
can  aam  a  ratum  froa  hla  akllla,  for  tha  tlaa  ha  apanda  on  tha 
floor,  and  tor  tha  coat  of  hia  Buehanga  aaabarahlp.  It  alao 
panlta  tha  brakar  to  uaa  hla  riak  baarlng  capacity  to  both  covar 
tha  rlak  of  trading  on  hla  own  account  aa  a  aarkat  MUcar,  and 
alao  tha  riak  af  balng  unabla  to  fill  ouatoaar  Halt  and  atop- 
loBB  ordara. 


*  k  brokar  can  avoid  thia  riak  by  trading  tha  apraad 
diraetly  with  a  local,  howavar  than  tha  cuatoaar  la  indiractly 
paying  aoaaona  aloa  to  boar  tha  riak,  and  In  affBCt  uaing  two 
paople  to  axacuta  tha  trada  rsthar  than  ona  paraon. 


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Tha  abova  raaarka  Indlcata  that  custoaaca  will  racalv*  »ota 
sHlllad  brokaeaga  bacauaa  oC  dual  trading.  Howavar,  thara  la  an 
indiract  banatic  to  euacoMara  ttom  dual  trading  vhich  thay 
racaiva  avan  1(  thay  uaa  a  brokar  who  navar  dual  tradaa.  Thia 
banaflt  la  tha  tact  that  dual  trading  will  Incraaaa  tha  nuabar  of 
■arkat  aakara  and  aapaclally  apraad  aarkat  aakara.  Tha  nuabar  of 
■arkat  aakara  la  Ineraaaad  Croa  dual  trading  tor  axactly  tha  aaaa 
raaaon  that  it  loerMaaa  tha  nuabar  at  akillad  brokara.  Tha 
ability  to  angaga  in  euatoaar  brokara^a  anhancaa  tha  valua  of  an 
txchanga  aaabarahip  to  a  wkrkat  aakar.  nia  narkat  aakar  knowa 
that  attar  to  baa  og^ittad  aa  auoh  ot  hla  am  capital  ttot  ha 
can  to  trading  on  hla  am  account,  than  thara  la  atill  anothar 
way  to  aacn  incoaa  trca  hla  praaane*  on  tha  trading  floor,  naaaly 
cuatoaar  brokacag*.  Thla  "aaoond  Inceaa*  can  ba  •  aubatantlal 
inducaaant  to  ba  a  aarkat  aakar,  which  aignltlcantly  lowara  tha 
•ttaotlva  coat. 

Tto  taot  that  l^Mdlaey  of  trada  axacution  ia  axtraaaly 
la^artant  to  tttfeaxaa  euataaara  lapllaa  that  thay  will  havo  a 
graatar  daaand  Car  aarkat  aakara  than  will  bo  tha  oaaa  In  aarkats 
wbara  tto  OOM  of  dalayad  axaeutloa  la  aaallar.  A  cu^jllty 
hadgar  baara  gzaat  riak  it  to  doaa  not  do  hia  tuturaa  trada 
iaaadlataly.  Thia  riak  aay  toroa  hla  to  trada  ualng  a  ■aarkat' 
etdar,  tor  axaapla  to  aall  iaaadlataly  to  tto  highaat  biddar 
currontly  avallabla.   It  thara  aro  faw  aarkat  aakara  than  to  will 


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rsosiva  ■  ralaClvaly  low  price,  l.a.,  his  tcnda  will  b«va  a  hifh 
■arkat  inpact  cost.  Thua  tutviraa  Barkata  hava  a  graat  daaand  for 
■arkat  aakara  who  accoBBodaCa  iiMdlacy  of  ordar  enamtion.  Tha 
InatituCion  of  dual  trading  panita  this  da»and  to  ba  net  at  low 

Tbara  is  also  graat  variability  in  tha  cuatoaar  danand  for 
both  brokaraga  and  Barkat  Baking  aarvicaa.  Tha  variability  in 
price  volatility  which  is  cobboh  in  futures  Barkets  crsatas  both 
a  great  need  for  raaarva  brokerage  capacity  (as  seen,  for 
exaapla.  In  tha  suBBer  of  19BB  where  grain  price  volatility  and 
trading  voluBe  rose  after  sobs  slow  years)  and  produces  lulls 
during  which  it.  is  hard  for  non-dual  trading  brolcsre  to  survive. 


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6.  Pr«ll«ln«rv  Kv.l.i.ttBn  of  Prowntl.  to  Iftriet  Pu.l  Tradlmi 
A.  Canmmaumnemt  of   glialn.tlno  Du.l  Tr.dlna 

Tha  t«et  chat  a  brokac  tradaa  far  hla  own  account  and  also 
tradaa  for  cuatosara  la  a  potantlal  aourca  of  a  conflict  of 
intaraat.  On*  major  conflict  of  Intaraat  la  that  tha  brokac  may 
"front  run"  hla  euatoaar  ordar  by  trading  on  hla  ovn  account 
bafora  axacutlng  tha  cuatovar'a  ordar.  For  aKaapla,  •  br^Mr 
holding  a  larga  aall  ordar  for  a  cuatoaar  aigbt  aoll  out  of  hla 
own  account  flrat  and  tharaby  banaflt  troa  tba  prlca  fall  nana art 
by  tha  axacutlon  of  tha  cuateaar  ordar.  Tbla  potaotlal  afefw* 
•Klata  In  both  tha  aacurltlaa  sarkata  and  tuturas  ■arkots.  It  ia 
a  violation  of  HYtl  rulaa  for  a  a—bar  to  trada  ahaad  af  tta 
cuatoMor,  and  It  la  alao  a  violation  of  cnc  ragalatlona  for  a 
futuraa  broker  to  trada  ahoad  of  Ita  cuat^Mr. 

Though  tho  ollainatlon  of  dual  trading  aay  raduco  tha  abev« 
conflict  of  Intaroat,  It  will  actually  incraaao  aimtbor  typa  of 
conflict  of  intaraat.  Front  running  ia  not  tha  only  aourca  of 
conflict  at  Intaraat  batwaan  a  brokar  and  a  cnatoaar.  Tha  bnricar 
gat*  paid  tor  gatting  tho  trada  axocutad.  Tbo  cuatoaar  wanta  an 
axocutlon  at  a  good  prlco.  Tha  taator  tha  brokar  ean  gat  tba 
ordar  axootttod,  tba  aoonar  ha  can  bagin  axacuting  tha  aaxt 
cuatonar'a  ordar  and  aam  anothar  coBBiaalon.  Tha  fact  that  • 
cuatonar  wanta  tha  brokar  to  axpand  both  ti>a  and  affert  to  do 
tha  trada  confllcta  with  tha  fact  that  tha  brokor  gota  a 
eoaaiaaion  on  a  particular  trada  Indapsndwitly  of  how  hard  ha 
worka  tha  ordar.   (Of  couraa,  tha  cuatMNr  will  not  glva  rapMt 


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buainsss  to  a  brokac  who  ha  knows  provide*  hlo ,  vitb  poor 
•xccutlona.)  Thia  conflict  of  intaraat  ia  altlgatad  for  a 
■killad  broker/ tradar  bacausa  it  ia  aaaiar  for  hla  to  glv«  hi* 
cuBtonar  a  good  axacution.  It  la  alao  >lel(latad  whan  thara  ara 
uany  brokera  (each,  not  ovarbutdanad  with  ordan  to  ba  axacutad) , 
and  whan  a  larga  supply  of  aarkat  ukara  ara  avallabla  qlvlng 
good  bids  for  larga  alza  ordara. 

Thus,  tha  firat  consaquanc*  of  aliainating  dual  trading  vill 
ba  to  axacarbata  tha  conflict  of  intaraat  batwaan  a  brokar  and 
his  custonar.  Wa  will  show  balow  that  tha  allalnatlon  of  dual 
trading  vill  dacraasa  tha  nuabar  of  brokara,  dacraasa  tha  niabar 
of  narkat  makara,  and  dacraasa  aarkat  liquidity.  In  tinaa  of 
haavy  daaand  by  custoBsrs  for  broker  sarvlcas,  thara  will 
tharafora  ba  fawar  brokars  to  handla  tha  custoaar  ordars,  and 
aach  ordar  will  ba  nora  difficult  to  axacuta  bacauaa  of  tha 
dacraasa  in  >arkat  liquidity.  Sinca  haavy  damand  by  cuatoaara 
tor  brokars  ottan  occurs  at  tha  saaa  tlaa  that  aarkat  volatility 
rises,  tha  allalnatlon  of  dual  trading  will  causa  thara  to  ba; 
(a)  fewer  brokers  to  satisfy  tha  inoraased  daaand  for  brokara, 
and  (b)  fawar  locals  trading  as  aarkat  aakars  to  oountaract  tha 
incraasad  volatility.  Brokar/tradara  who  ara  vary  skilled  at 
trading  will  trade  for  their  own  account,  while  brokar/tradara 
who  ara  soaewhat  laas  akllled  will  trade  only  for  cu^toaers.  In 
periods  of  heavy  custoaar  trading,  theee  las*  ekilled  brokers 
will  naceaearily  ba  under  great  pressure,  to  quickly  trada  each 
ordar  eo  that  they  can  aove  on  to  tha  next  ordar,  thus  aaxiatiing 


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tlMlr  total  coMiaalon. 

Tha  analyaia  praaantad  In  tection  «  ahovad  that  thara  ara 
tour  »«ln  banaflta  aaaoclatad  with  dual  tradlngi 
(1)  Cuatoaata  eacalvo  brokaraga  aarvicaa  troa  aklllad  tradaca. 
(1)  Tha  nuBlME  of  brokara  la  Ineraaaad. 
(3}  Tha  nuabaE  oC  aarkat  aakara  la  Inoraaaad. 
(4)  Tha  liquidity  of  tha  aarkac  la  Incraaaod. 

In  addition  to  axaoarbatlng  tha  conflict  of  Intaeaat  batwaan 
brekara  and  cuatoaara,  tha  allalnatlon  oC  dual  trading  will 
claacly  lowar  all  of  tha  abov*  banatlta. 
Thl  nWT  Trailara  mil  "ot  tn,   niltt— r  TTlrtl 

Tha  baat  tradara  ara  thoaa  Indi  vidua  la  who  bava 
ooaparatlva  advantaqa  at  Jud^lnq  abort  run  aarkat  aovaa. 
tbo««  Indlvlduala  auat  diooaa  batwaan  aitaeutln^  auatoaar  tradaa 
or  thalr  own  tradaa  axelualvaly,  than  tbay  will  cbooaa  to  trada 
Cor  tbaaaalvaa.  "Otm  aoat  that  a  brefear  can  aaka  troa  a  cuatoi 
trada  la  tha  coaalaalen.  It  ba  la  a  «oad  tradar  tor  cuatoaai 
than  ba  will  qat  aora  eo^laalon  bualnaaa,  but  ha  cannot  ahara 
tha  profit  troa  Individual  tradaa.  Tha  aoat  aklllad  tradara  wl 
net  9iva  up  tha  unlialtad  profit  troa  buying  lew  and  aalllnq  hl«b 
lAleh  tbay  obtain  froa  thalr  own  trading, 
eaaaiaalena  froa  euatoaara.  Ttwaa  trading  protlta  ara  ottan  high 
on  tha  aaaa  daya  whan  thara  la  high  prlea  volatility  and  tbua 
high  daaand  by  cuatoaara  for  aklllad  brakars. 

wa  notad  In  sactlon  S  that  tha  facta  that  futuraa  trading  is 
foeuaad  on  tha  Exchanga  floor  and  that  tuturaa  i 


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doslra  Bpraad  fcradas  >nd  Cradas  chnractarltad  by  graft  naad  for 
imnadiacy  all  ecmbina  to  aalca  ■  futuras  cuatomar  naad  ralatlvaly 
■ore  akillad  floor  brokaraga  aarvLcaa  than  a  sacurlttaa  cuatonar. 
Tha  ellninatlon  of  dual  trading  froB  futuraa  narkata,  whlla  tha 
maintananca  of  dual  trading  on  aacurltlaa  >arkata  vould  ba 
alialnatlng  the  akillad  floor  brokers  froa  tha  cuatomars  who  hava 
ralatlvaly  tha  graataat  naad  Cor  thalr  aarvlcas. 
Tha  Himhar  of  Warkat  Makara  and  of  Brokara  Mill  Daeraaa* 

Tha  fact  that  an  Individual  can  angaga  In  two  aetlvltias  to 
earn  a  return  tor  tha  cost  of  an  exchange  seat,  th*  axpansasi  of 
training,  and  the  tlaa  apant  on  tha  Exehang*  floor  vill 
inevitably  increaae  the  aupply  of  individuals  vbo  are 
broker/traders.  eii>inatlng  dual  trading  will  lowar  ths  valu*  of 
being  on  tha  floor  for  both  actlvltlaa.  This  is  because  an 
Individual  who  now  concent rataa  on  being  a  broker  can  trade  on 
hla  own  account  when  hia  own  brokerage  buaineaa  is  light,  and  an 
individual  who  special lies  in  trading  on  his  own  account  can 
switch  to  cuatraer  bualnaas  lAen  cuatoaera  damand  heavy  brokerage 
earvices  or  whan  ha  has  coaaittad  all  of  his  capital  to  trading 
on  hia  own  account. 

Dual  trading  creates  a  raaarva  group  of  potential  brokers 
who  cen  fraaly  awitch  to  customer  businaaa  whan  tha  voluBa  of 
cuatonar  orders  rises.  It  alao  creates  a  rasarve  group  of  aarkat 
makers  who  can  add  liquidity  vt 
have  a  large  narket  lapact. 
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Th«  «liatiMtion  at  diul  trading  will  r*duea  tha  i^ak  capital 
nada  avallabla  by  floor  traders  who  act  aa  aarkat  >akara.  This 
will  Incraaaa  bid  aak  apraada.  It  will  daeraaaa  tlM  liquidity 
providad  In  tha  pacloda  iiiMn  it  ia  naadad  Boat,  n«>aly  whan  thara 
la  an  unanticlpatad  inflow  of  euatoaar  ordara.  Tha  Inability  of 
brakara  to  owitch  froa  euatoaar  boalnaaa  to  trading  for  tbolr  own 
account  will  pravant  thaa  froa  taking  tlia  otbar  aida  of  tha  larga 
Inflow  of  ordora.  Thoratoro  prlca  aovaaants  will  ba  aaacarlMtad. 
Narkat  pricaa  will  ataow  graatar  volatility. 
«««  wrfc»f  mil  —  Mwraalv  AMaetad 

Tha  dacraaaad  liquidity  and  incraaaad  volatility  of  taturaa 
pricaa  will  advaraaly  affaot  tha  undar  lying  apot  aaticaits. 
Puturaa  aarkata  aarva  a  bodging  and  prioa  dlaoovary  function 
lAidi  will  ba  l^airod  by  tha  altaiMtioa  of  dual  trading,  thla 
will  aaka  holding  tha  spot  oo^wdlty  or  financial  InatEtaant  aor* 
risky.  This  will  iivaet  on  a  who  la  ranga  of  undarlylng 
actlvitlas  froa  grain  storaga  to  tba  financing  of  tha  m  traasury 
dabt. 

Ons  axa^la  of  UM  typo  of  iapaot  ean  bs  soon  In  tha  grain 
aarkat.  Sraln  slavstors  buy  grain  and  ator*  It.  Ibay  bsar  tha 
risk  that  tha  pries  will  tall  bstwaan  tha  ttaa  thay  buy  tha  grain 
and  tha  tlna  tbsy  sail  tha  grain,  lbs  alsvator  ownar  oan  hsdgs 
this  risk  by  sailing  ths  grain  forward  on  ths  fotnrso  aarkBt.  Hs 
tharaby  shifts  tba  risk  to  tha  rsst  of  tbs  world,  rathar  than 
baaring  it  all  by  hlMOlC.  Tba  fact  that  tha  grain  alavator  doss 
not  hava  to  baar  ths  risk  of  prioa  tloetuatians  ■asns  that  it  la 


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■blB  CO  pay  laracra  mar*  for  ttia  grain.  It  tha  alatrator  ownar 
had  to  baar  tha  clak  of  prlea  fluctuation,  than  ha  would  pay  the 
fanMF  laas,  so  aa  to  covac  tha  risk  ha  baara  in  storing  tha 
grain.  If  tha  liquidity  of  future*  narkata  falls,  or  if 
transactions  costs  rlsa,  than  tha  attaetiva  cost  of  obtaining 
Inauranca  froa  futuras  aarkata  will  riaa.  Thla  Incraasad  cost 
will  be  passed  along  to  faraera  In  tha  fora  of  a  lower  price  they 
racalv*  for  their  grain.  Final  usare  of  grain  will  not  receive  a 
lower  price,  but  eay  even  have  to  pay  a  higher  price,  since  the 
grain  elevator'*  effective  oost  of  storing  the  grain  has  risen 
due  to  the  Increase  in  Its  cost  of  obtaining  insurance  In  the 
futures  BBrket. 

Another  exaaple  of  the  deleter lous  effects  of  reducing 
futures  Market  liquidity  cen  be  seen  in  the  US  treasury  security 
market.  Bond  dealers  who  put  in  bids  et  US  treasury  auctions  can 
hedge  tha  inventory  of  bonds  they  acquire  fay  uaing  the  US 
treasury  bond  futuraa  sarket.  The  ability  to  hedge  their 
inventory  Increaeas  the  aaount  that  they  are  able  to  buy  at 
auctions,  and  the  price  that  they  are  willing  to  pay.  If  tha 
coet  of  trading  on  the  futuras  earKat  rises,  than  thle  will 
Increase  the  cost  to  the  US  treesury  of  lasuing  treasury 
securities. 

The  enomous  i^ortenca  of  futures  markets  in  our  economy 
means  that  even  small  increases  In  tha  coet  of  using  tb*  market* 
or  the  liquidity  provided  by  the  markete  can  have  very  large 
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or  It  consu>»rB  auac  pay  (.OS  bot*  par  buahal,  ox,  it    tha  us 
traaaury  racaivaa  1/11  laaa  par  Sloo  o(  bond*  tt  iaauaa,  than  tha 
eonaaquanca*  par  100  ■llllon  buahala  and  par  t  crllllon  dollari 
of  dabt  ara  anorsoua. 
Faralan  Wrkata  Will  Bapl««  us  Wrfcata 

TIta  tact  Chat  dual  trading  la  paralttad  in  Bany  toralgn 
•ackata  will  giva  thoaa  BBTkata  an  advantaga  ovar  th*  08  aarkata. 
Tha  praaainanca  of  many  US  Cuturaa  aarkata  ariaaa  fra>  tha  graat 
liquidity  addad  by  "loeala*,  who  ara  tradara  riaking  thalr  own 
capital  ta  add  liquidity  to  aarkat*.  Ttwaa  locala  will  loaf-  an 
iaportant  aourca  ttt  Chair  potanCial  incoaa  1(  thay  ara  axeludad 
froB  cu*ca*ar  brokaraga,  and  hanca  ba  dlacauragad  troB  antarlng 
tha  trading  bualnaaa. 

Tba  BovaBanC  of  brokaraga  bualnaaa  ovaraaaa  will  turthar 
dacraaao  tba  liquidity  ot  HI  aarkata  bacauaa  Char*  will  ba  fawar 
euateaara  for  a  givan  cuateaar  on  Ch*  US  aarkaC  to  trada  with. 
cuatoaars  torcad  to  trada  in  tha  US  will  tharaCora  ba  trading  In 
laaa  liquid  aarkaCa,  aftar  Bobila  cuatoaarB  taka  thair  bnsinaaa 
alaawhara . 
euatowa  mil  I^i—  Thair  Fraadoa  of  tatojea 

currsntly,  with  dual  trading  paraittad,  a  cuBtoaar  cencamad 
about  contllcta  ot  intaraat  can  chocaa  to  lua  a  floor  brokar  who 
doaa  not  angaga  In  dual  trading.  On  tha  otbar  hand,  a  cuatoaar 
who  is  not  concamad  about  tha  conflict  of  Intaraat  and  wanta  an 
activa  akillad  tradar  oan  ohooa*  a  floor  brokar  who  doaa  angaga 
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cuatoaars  if  dual  trading  ia  bannad. 

B.  Raviaw  of  Proncaaala  to  Partially  Ellalnaf  Bum  Trading 
1.  Ellainata  Dual  Trading  in  Llautd  Contraet» 

Thara  ara  two  problaaa  with  thla  propoaal .  rirat,  ttw 
contracta  Bay  ba  liquid  exactly  bacauaa  of  the  ability  of 
brokar/tradars  to  ivitch  to  Markat  BBkinq  activitiaa  whan  thara 
ia  s  larga  cuatosar  ordar  t4iioh  would  otharwiaa  hava  a  larga 
advaree  price  lapaot.  It  1*  vary  difficult  to  aaintaln  a  liquid 
futuraa  Hsckot.  Hoat  contracta  which  hava  baan  Introduced '.  by 
Exchangaa  fall  to  baeoaa  liquid  and  diaappaar.  Ho  cuatosar  will 
Initiate  a  poaitlon  when  he  (aara  that  the  Market  will  not  ba 
liquid  whan  ha  wanta  to  take  off  the  poaitlon.  If  cuatoaara  loaa 
confidanca  in  the  liquidity  of  a  aarkat,  than  that  Barkat  will 
fall.  A  dalioata  balance  ia  required  for  a  aerkat  to  aurviva, 
and  anything  which  raducea  the  liquidity  by  aven  a  aaall  a>ount 
can  initiate  a  vlcloua  circle  whereby  cuatokar  confidanca  ia 
loat,  voluaa  fall*,  ao  confidanca  furtbar  faila,  and  liquidity 
totally  diaappaars. 

A  second  problaa  with  eliainatlng  dual  trading  only  froa 
liquid  contracta  ia  the  prevalence  of  apcead  trading  between 
illiquid  and  liquid  contracta.  A  typical  apraad  trad*  will 
involve,  for  exaap^*'  buying  the  near  liquid  expiration  Bonth, 
and  Belling  a  later  leas  llqnld  aonth.  It  sight  even  involve  , 
Balling  a  laea  liquid  cowBOdlty  and  buying  a  ■or*  liquid 
cosBodlty.   For  exasple,  a  bond  hedger  say  want  to  aell  federal 


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tundc  tuturaa  (•  !■••  liquid  contract),  and  buy  tr«a*ury  bond 
tuturas  <•  sera  liquid  contract) ,  to  tiadga  aqalnat  a  chanq*  In 
tha  taea  atractur*  oC  intarast  rac*s. 

In  ordac  for  tha  apraad  wirkat  to  b«  liquid  a  tradar  auat  ba 
•bla  to  do  both  cuatoaar  and  principal  bualnaaa  In  both  tha 
liquid  and  illiquid  contraeta. 

A  tbled  pr^la«  with  •liainating  dual  trading  in  th*  liquid 
contracta  la  that  tho  volua*  and  liquidity  ot  «  particular 
contract  can  ba  qait*  varlabla.  Durlnq  partods  oC  umwual 
w^atbor,  a  grain  futuraa  contract  that  baa  had  vary  llttlo  vaXuaa 
can  ahow  a  huga  Ineraaa*  in  voluae.  If  dual  trading  la  bannad 
eras  tha  contract  wtian  its  voluna  of  trad*  riaaa,  than  whan  thara 
ia  a  auddan  riaa  In  volma,  tbara  will  ba  a  ahortaga  ot  brokara 
and  tradara  to  >«rv«  euatoaar  naada. 
3.  KllBlMti  Dial  TridtiiB  It  titM-BBMi  ind-JJa  CIoml of . Tgiflino 

Thaaa  ara  porloda  of  tba  day  with  hlgbaat  voluna  of  trada. 
It  la  vary  mamf  for  ordar  inbalancas  (for  axaapla,  a 
prapondaranca  of  euataaar  aalla  ovar  buya)  to  appaar  within  a  taw 
aaconda  In  thla  parlad  aa  brokara  attaapt  to  aaacuta  "narkat  on 
op«n'  or  "aarkat  oo  eloaa"  ordara.  Sia  aarkat  naklng  capital  ot 
•  brokar/tmdar  can  taaMt  cnelal  to  ■alntalning  prloa  atablllty 
in  tha  spaea  of  a  taw  aaconda.  Tb*  banaflta  trtm  •witching  fro« 
brekara^a  to  principal  trading  can  thua  appear  within  a  faw 
aaconda.  Thla  craatoa  banaflta  troa  dual  trading  «v«n  at  tb* 
opan  and  th*  eloa*  ot  trado. 


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3.  Llalt  th«  aitm  at  CuatMT  Ordra  Rifeutuhla  by  a  Pti.l  Trader 
This  would  lowar  th«  quality  of  brokaraga  aarvicB*  to  large 
cultonara  who  oftan  naad  it  tha  Boat.  It  would  ineraaaa  price 
volatility,  aa  lar^a  ordara  hava  highar  aarkat  iapacta  dua  to 
axacutlon  by  laaa  akillad  tradara.  Tha  larga  tradara  ara  tha 
■oat  Bobila,  and  will  thua  mova  thair  ordara  to  foraiqn  Darkata 
if  thay  can  ba  axacutad  >ora  affactlvaly  thara.  Ttiia  will  lowar 
tha  liquidity  availabla  to  tha  cuacoaara  who  raaaln.  Tha 
cuatoaara  who  raaain  ara  likaly  to  ba  a>all  cuatoaara.  Kanca 
thla  llaltatlon  on  dual  trading  will  hana  atull  cuatosara  noca 
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I  hav*  alraady  notad  ttia  problasa  with  allalnatlng  dual 
trading  fro*  liquid  contracta.  Ellnlnatlnq  dual  trading  froa  tha 
front  Bontha  will  aak*  apraad  tradlnq  vary  difficult,  for  raaaona 
notad  abova.  Hawav«r  It  will  also  hava  anothar  aubtl*,  but 
dalatarioua  atfact.  It  will  aaka  it  lapoaalbla  for  tradcn  in 
tha  back  aonth  to  hadga  thalr  risk  In  tha  back  «enth  contraeta  by 
taking  an  offaattlng  pealcion  In  tha  front  aontha.  For  axaapla, 
a  brokar/tradar  who  buya  a  back  aonth  contract  lika  tha  Pagaabar 
IMO  bond  futura  (tharaby  providing  liquidity  t«  a  cuatewar  Mha 
wantB  to  Ball  it)  would  normally  aall  tha  front  Bontb  ta  hadga 
hla  poaltlen.  Kowavae,  It  ha  loaaaa  tha  ability  to  txada  tba 
front  aonth,  than  Ha  will  caaaa  to  tcada  tha  back  aonth  bacauaa 
of  tha  rlak  invelvad.  Tharoforo  allalnatinq  dual  trading  froa 
tha  front  aontha  will  alao  cauaa  dual  trading  to  dlaappaar  Croa 
tha  back  aontha. 


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7.  Heaaurinq  tha  Banefita  of  Dual  Trading 

The  prsvlous  ssctlona  provida  a  thaor«tlcal  ovarviaw  of  the 
economic  rola  of  dual  trading  and  tha  natura  of  ch*  bene  fit  a 
cuBtODcrs  derive  troM  dual  trading.  Much  of  the  dlacusaion  in 
the  previoua  sections  can  be  quantified.  in  particular,  it  is 
possibla  to  neaaur*  the  contribution  Bade  in  varloua  future* 
narkets  by  dual  tradera.  It  should  be  noted  that  the  neaaurenent 
of  the  benefits  is  quits  a  conplex  process,  and  to  the  beat  of  ny 
knowledge  no  atudy  exlata  which  haa  Beasurad  the  potential  loaaaa 
to  the  econoay  of  eliainating  dual  trading. 

Kn  enpirical  analyala  of  dual  trading  oust  begin  with  an 
analysis  of  the  extant  to  vhlch  dual  trading  exists  In  particular 
narlcata,  particular  contracts,  and  particular  periods.  Ho 
coaprehenslve  analyala  axlata  of  th*  extant  to  which  an 
individual  nexber  tradea  for  his  own  account  and  also  trades  for 
custoaara.  The  trading  records  of  individual  aeabers  exist  and 
can  be  used  to  raconatruct  a  record  of  overall  dual  trading. 
Thla  data  can  be  analysed  froa  two  pointa  of  view.  The  first 
view  ia  "positive".  I.e.,  an  attsapt  to  deteraine  what  underlying 
factors  have  lad  to  the  observed  historical  pattern*  of  dual 
trading.  It  would  then  be  deteralned  whether  the  obaervad 
patterns  are  consistent  with  the  theory  of  dual  trading  outlined 
in  the  pravloua  Seetiona.  The  second  view  is  "norHatlvs" .  Thla 
approach  will  coapuCa  the  extent  to  vhlch  dual  traders  have 
directly  and  Indirectly  banatlted  custoaers,  and  the  extent  to 
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Th«  D«C«»lMnt.  at   au»l  Tr»dln«f 

ma  Chaoratlcal  traaavork  davalopad  in  thia  raport  tapllaa 
that  tha  tolloHlnq  tactors  will  cauaa  dual  trading  to  ba 
laportant. 

1.  Tha  axtant  to  vhleh  euatoaaca  daalra  l^Mdlacy  of 
WMCutlon.  It  tDara  ar«  larqa  euateaae  ordara  wtalch  mat  ba 
"werkad"  [in  tha  aanaa  that  trading  it  liaadiataly  "at  aarkaf 
will  qiva  tha  cuatoaar  a  poor  prlca) ,  but  for  which  tha  euatosar 
baara  graat  riak  whlla  tha  ovdar  ia  untillad.  than  thara  wilt  ba 
a  graat  daaand  for  brokara  who  ara  akillad  tradara. 

3.  tbm  axtant  to  which  cuatoaara  daair*  eo^lax  apraad 
tradaa.  mi*  ia  anothar  axaapla  whara  tha  cuatoaar  daaanda 
brokara  with  atreng  tlalng  and  bargaining  akilla. 

)■  Tha  axtant  to  which  thara  ia  inaulfictant  cuatoaar 
bualnaaa  or  inautficiant  principal  trading  buainaaa  (oc  an 
individual  to  aacn  a  living  fro*  angaging  In  only  ona  eC  thaaa 
aetlvltiaa. 

4.  Tba  axtant  to  uhlcA  tbara  ar*  larga  awinga  in  tha  daaand 
for  altbar  brekaraga  or  principal  tradaa.  Dual  trading  will  ba 
Important  whan  thara  ara  aurpriaa  ineraaaaa  or  dacraaaaa  in 
cnatoaar  buainaaa  which  laad  to  wlda  and  unpradictabla  varlatlena 
in  tha  appropriata  usa  of  a  brokar/ tradara  tlaa  and  affort. 

ma  abova  factora  can  ba  quantitlad  and  uaad  in  a  tlaa  aarlaa  and 
crosa  aactlonal  analyaia  of  dual  trading,  to  saa  if  thay  indaad 


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•xplaln  th*  daqraa  to  vtaich  dual  trading  occura  , 
futuraa  contracts  In  varioua  parioda. 

Tha  Banaflta  of  Dual  Trading 

Tha  factara  ■ophaaliad  In  tha  pravloua  Sactlor 
that  dual  trading  haa  a  diract  aftaet  on  cuatonara  via  providing 
battar  floor  brokcraga  aarvlcaa,  and  an  Indlract  a f tact  of 
Incraaalng  >arlcat  liquidity. 

Maasuring  tha  diract  banaflta  of  dual  trading  Involvaa  tha 
following  analyaia. 

1.  CoMputlng  tha  aictant  to  which  diract  brokaraga  coata  ar« 
raducad,  for  a  glvan  laval  of  brokar  quality,  bacauaa  a  dual 
tradar  haa  nultipla  usaa  of  hia  tiaa,  akilla  and  Bxchanga  aaaC, 
and  thuB  can  oCfar  to  trada  at  a  lowar  coat.* 

2.  Kaaauring  tha  axtant  Go  which  euatoaara  raeaiva  battar 
axacutlona  on  eo^lax  apraada,  and  larga  ordara  through  tha  uaa 
of  dual  tradara. 


Maaauring  tha  indlract  banaflta  of  dual  trading  on  sarkat 
liquidity  involvaa  tha  following  analyaia. 

1.  Coaputing  tha  axtant  to  which  tha  effactiva  bid  aak  apraad  la 
raducad  dua  to  tha  axiatanca  of  dual  trading. 

3.  Conputing  tha  axtant  to  which  tha  affactiva  bid  ask  apraad  ia 
raducad  tor  apraad  tradaa. 


laauring  tha  Oparatlonal  Coat  of  Dual  Tradlngt    An 
~  ~   iwork",  Kannath  L.  Stanlay,  Tha  Journal  of  ruturaa 
,  Ko.  3,  339-336,  19B1. 


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).  CoBputlng  tb*  axtant  to  which  tha  aartut  can  ataerb  larqa 
ordan  to  bgy,  or  larqa  ordara  to  aall  with  a  aaall  »ar1ut  li^act 
(i.a.,  aarkat  dapcb) . 

Tha  Maaaurcaant  of  attactlva  bid  aak  qtcaada,  wtd  tlM 
Maauraaant  ot  aarkat  dapth  will  ba  aacoapliahad  by  varloua 
■athoda.  All  aathoda  will  raly  upon  tha  idaa  that  ti^adaa  wbich 
hava  •  larq*  aarkat  l^act  and/or  ara  asaentad  againat  wlda  bid 
aak  apraada  will  causa  prlea  and  aMpaetad  ratnms  t»  aova  in 
oppoalta  dlractlona.  Racall  that.  Car  axa^la,  a  aall«r  will 
hava  a  larga  aarkat  iapact  it  tha  priea  ean  ba  aiyatad  ta  ^aa 
frOB  tha  prlca  at  which  hia  trada  ia  axacutad.  Varleua  aatboda 
will  b«  u*ad  to  ce^^ta  tha  axtant  to  whldt  prica  and  — tiit-ttit 
ratuma  ar«  nagativaly  corralatad,  inclodinv  toll's  aaaaura 
darivad  (roa  tha  autocovarianc*  of  period  by  parlod  ratuma) , 
and  tha  Oroasaan-Hillar  autocorralation  aaaaura,  aa  wall  aa 
xalaan  tlltseing  approachaa.* 

It  ia  iaportant  to  control  for  othar  affoota  wkicA  aay 
lapact  on  actual  aarkat  liquidity,  thaaa  atfaota  incloda 
variation  acroas  contracta  in  voliaa  tradad,  avaraga  trada  staa, 
apot  prica  volatility,  tiaa  to  a>piration,  tba  iapertanea  eC 


*  Tbaaa  approachaa  ara  iiimii  IiiI  in  i  ■KcotMBle  ceata  and 
BacMClts  «C  tba  Proposad  OnaHUimta  Tlaa  ■raoketing  togolatloas,- 

Sanford  J.  Sroaaaan  and  Narton  Miliar,  gaooMl Bt tBtaiSM 

Markata ■  vol.  t,  no.  1,  19M,  141-l«a.  "Liquidity  and  Narkat 
Struetura,"  Sanford  J.  Groaaaan  and  Msrton  Millar,  *""  -t«h.mi  nr 
Financa ■  July  19M,  Vol.  41,  Ho.  3,  m-t37.  "Datarainanta  of 
Liquidity  Coata  in  Coaaodlty  ruturaa  Narkats,"  gfwl—  of  rWilfT" 
jiarlcatH ■  Spring  lais.  ■Infarrlng  tha  coai^nantB  of  tha  Sld-Aak 
Spreadi  Thaory  and  eaplrleal  Taata,"  Hana  atoll,  laOBMl—at 
Financa.  vol.  44,  no.  1,  March  1919. 


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ntra-aarkat  and  Intac-Barkat  apraad  trading.  Furthar,  it  is 
iportant  to  dlatlnguiah  cauaa  tram  attact.  In  particular,  tha 
laqnltuda  of  tha  abova  factoca  aay  ba  althar  a  raapanaa  to  tha 
aaa  in  liquidity  cauaad  by  tha  ammly  of  dual  tradara  or 
.nataad  ba  tactora  Nhieb  contcibutad  to  tha  i<»»»i>rt  for  dual 


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Dual  Trading  In  Fnralan  Wrlff 

In  looking  aC  financial  aarkac*  throughout  tha  world,  ona 
finds  that  dual  trading  is  very  pravalant.  This  la  not 
aurprlsing,  glvan  tha  laportant  banatlts  Chat  dual  trading 
provldaa  both  to  brokar*  and  to  clianta.  Ny  prallainary  raviav 
of  world  aarkata  Indieat*  that  19  out  of  19  countrlM  paiait  mtmm 
tors  of  dual  trading.  Dual  trading  can  taka  th*  torB^.-  of 
t radar/ brokara  on  tha  Bxchanga  floor  aa  in  DS  futuraa  Barkwt*,  or 
tha  form  of  banka  which  act  aa  both  principals  and  agwtta  for 
custoaara,  or  tha  form  of  daalgnatad  ap*ciallata,  or  tha  tora  of 
brokar/daalara  who  can  trad*  on  or  oft  tha  Ischanga  floor  with 

Tha  (ollowlng  dascrlbaa  tha  stnictura  of  financial  axchangaa 
throughout  tha  world,  with  ragard  to  brokarag*  sarvicaa  and  dual 
trading.'  Unlasa  spaclfically  notad,  tha  Exchangsa  daacribad  ara 
Btock  axchangaa. 


corporation,  Park  Ridga.  Haw  Jarsay.  —ior  fltoek  Markata  of 
Europa.  Paul  stonhaa,  IMS.  St.  Martin's  Praaa,  Kaw  York.  Xbi 
Prinetoal  Stock  Enehaiwaa  of  tha  World.  David  E.  SPray,  1»64, 
Intarnational  Econoaic  Publishara,  Inc.,  Washington,  O.C.. 


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Australia 

On  tha  Sydnay  tuturaa  Exctiang*  a  local  can  Crada  tor  tiia  own 
account  aa  wall  aa  tor  other  Baobara  of  tha  Bxchanga.  Ha  la  not 
paniittad  to  trada  ahaad  of  hia  cuatonar. 

on  tha  Auatrallan  atock  axchang*,  atockbrokara  aay  trada  on  thalr 
ovn  account,  aa  vail  aa  acting  for  cllanta.  A  brohar  daalar  auat 
dlacloaa  than  ha  ia  acting  aa  auch.  An  odd  lot  apaclallat  ia  a 
nanbar  brokar  who  axerclaaa  a  francbiaa  to  handla  all  odd  lota. 
Ha  la  abla  to  buy  odd  lota  at  a  aat  rata  of  dlacount  and  aall'  at 
a  sat  rata  of  praalua,  In  ordar  to  ba  raooapanaad  for  hla 

Optlona  ara  tradad  on  tha  Australian  option*  Mickat  in  nueh  tha 
aa>a  nannar  ■•  ordinary  aacorltlaa.  A  Il*giat«r*d  Trader  la 
raqulrad  by  th«  axchang*  to  provlda  a  contlnuoua  and  orderly 
narkat  by  vaklng  a  varkat  In  at  laast  on*  contract  trttan  oallad 
upon  to  do  ao.  Ha  alao  Baintaina  an  agnPi^oprlata  price 
relationship  aMong  tha  options  aerlea  in  each  atock  he  deala 
with.  A  floor  trader  la  a  rapreaentative  of  a  Mavbar  flea  and 
axecutaa  client  orders  on  behalf  of  hi*  firm. 


Austria 

Thoao  holding  stock  exchange  card*  include  banka  and  other  credit 

inatltutiona,  who  >ay  deal  directly  with  eaob  other  in  purchasing 


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or  aalllng  aacuritlcB.  OCtlci*!  broker*  say  not  MigBqa  In  uiy 
•Cock  axchanga  dMllnga  on  tbalr  awn  bahalf.  tha  ••eurlcios 
qaot*d  on  ttM  oltlelal  Hat  ar*  dlvidad  up  ae  tbat  aach  official 
brokar  handlaa  only  cartain  aaeuritlaa.  Brokara  «ay  alao  trad* 
ott  tha  axehanga.  Praa  brokara,  who  ara  not  otticlaliy  appeintad 
by  tha  axehanga,  aoc  aa  intaraadlarias  batwaan  cradlt 
inaticntiona,  or  batwaan  eliants  and  cradit  Inatitutiona.  may 
•ay  alao  trada  on  tliair  own  bahalf.  rx*a  brokara  alao  daal  in 
aaouritlaa  wbicb  aay  ba  tcadad  on  tha  axehanga  floor  but  whiA 
ara  net  officially  quotad.  ui  aaciwitiaa  My  ba  tradad  off  ..tha 


Trading  la  dona  axoloalTaly  by  I 
Thaaa  brokara  ara  toxbiddan  to  acit  aa  a  principal.  Tha  brokara 
can  raoaiTO  ordara  dixaetly  troa  ellanta  or  Indlractly  froa 
corraapeadlag  brokara  or  baaka.  Corraapowding  brokara  racaiva 
erdara  froa  ollaata  aUdi  tbay  wmt  bring  te  tha  brokara  tor 
aaacntion.  Baaha  anat  alao  go  throogh  ttia  brokara  to  gat  tradaa 
axacntad,  aaeapt  far  ordara  of  avar  Mr.  la  aiUlea. 

y  act  aa  both  agant  or 


■  thalr  own  aeeannt  i 


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By  contraat,   Invaataant  banka  and  <IiBtrlbution 
Bay  trad*  for  thair  own  account. 


N*Mb«r  flra  brokara  trada  for  fchalr  cuatomara  and  rata in  a 
cOBBlaaion  au  pay>ant.  Sacuritlaa  Clna  who  wlah  to  trada  Hated 
■acurttlaa  without  formally  Joining  tha  axchanga  My  do  ao  as  an 
Buthoriiad  non->aabar.  A  Ragiatarad  Tradar  acta  aa  a  daalar  in 
apacific  atocha  aaaignad  to  hin  by  tha  axchanga.  His  function  ia 
to  act  a>  a  Mrkat  nakar  in  thoaa  atocka  -  to  contribute  to 
■arkat  liquidity  and  anhanca  prica  continuity.  The  Regiatarad 
Tradar  can  execute  tradea  aa  an  agent  for  a  aeabar  fim  and  nay 
aiao  trada  hia  own  account,  within  liaitationa. 


Finland 

Moat  aaBbara  are  banka.   MaBbara  aay  trada  tor  thair  own 

aa  well  aa  for  clianta.   Banka  ara  aajor  invaatora  aa 


Clianta  mat  place  tbair  order  a  through  e  bank  which  ia 
rapcasantad  on  tha  atock  aKchange.  Banka  My  trade  aacuritiaa 
for  thair  own  account,  take  tha  other  aide  of  a  cuatoner 


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poaltlon,  or  arrange  for  anoehar  bank  to  Caka  tha  othar  aida. 
Thay  Bay  alao  placa  tradaa  through  a  brokac.  Official  brokara 
ara  aaalgnad  cartaln  aacurltlaa  by  tha  axchanga.  Thalr  funetian 
la  to  arranga  tranaactlona  and  aat  official  quotatlona.  Qm 
official  brokar  aata  a  alngla  prica  for  aach  aacurlty  which 
paralta  hla  to  axaeuta  tha  largaat  nuabar  of  ordara  racalvad  far 
ttiat  aacurlty.  If  additional  ordara  ara  naadad  to  balanca 
axlatlng  ordara,  ha  calla  tha  quotatlona  to  racalva  thai.  Ra  may 
than  antar  into  tha  trading  hlaaalt  oo  far  aa  It  la  naeaaaary  to 
till  oKlatlnq  ordara.  Otharwlaa,  otflolal  brokara  ara  .not 
anppoaad  to  daal  In  thalr  aaalgnad  aacurltlaa  for  tbalr  own 
account.  *Fraa  brokara*  axaeuta  tranaactlona  1 
May  alao  trada  foe  Chair  own  account. 


Maabar  tlrM  of  MkTIP,  tha  Prancb  financial  futuraa  BxAaaga,  ara 
•bla  to  axaeuta  both  proprlatary  and  cuatoaar  ordara. 

Sacuritlaa  eltants  say  placa  ordara  through  a  bank  or  a  raadalar, 
an  1  nraat— wt  aOvlaor.  Tbm  banka  and  roalalara  la  turn  tranaait 
tha  ordara  to  a  brakar  who  axocutaa  Umb  on  tha  floor  ar  off  ttaa 
axchanga.  A  brokar  nay  not  trada  for  hla  own  account  or  aovlra 
any  Intaraat  In  or  any  aanagoMnt  rawonalblllty  tor  any 
eo^rclal  or  Induatrlal  antarpriaa  othar  than  hla  brokaraga 
tirm.      Banka  aay  alao  daal  dlractly,  off  tha  axchanga,  Inolndlng 


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trading  on  thatr  own  account  and  taking  tha  < 
custonar  ordar. 


All  ordara  >uat  ba  axacutad  by  stock  axebanga  brokara  or  thalr 
aaployaaa.  Brokara  nay  alao  trad«  on  thalr  ovn  aceounta,  aa  long 
aa  thaaa  tranaactlona  ara  aagragatad  tro>  Choaa  for  thalr 
clianta.  Brokara  say  aaploy  authoriiad  clarks  or  Mlaa 
rapraaantatlvaa  to  axacuta  ordora  on  tha  floor.  Thaaa  aBployaaa 
Bay  not  trada  for  thalr  ovn  ■ 


I  Hong  Kong  Futuraa  Exchanga  pantlta  diMl  trading- 


Any  nanbar  can  act  aa  both  a  principal  or  an  agant,  aa  long  ai 
providas  notification  that  ha  la  trading  for  hia  own  aoeount. 


Italy 

Banka  aay  racalva  eliant  ordara  and  Batch  tlMB,  but  all  tradaa 
•xacuCad  on  tha  axohanga  mat  ba  dona  by  brokara.  Tha  brokara 
may  not  trada  on  thalr  own  account  nor  own  any  intaraat  or  accapt 
any  managarlal  raaponalblllty  In  any  coaaarclal  or  induatrial 
fira  othar  than  thalc  own  brokaraga  tirm. 


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Regular  a*nl>«ra  of  ttia  sKChang*  ara  caapanlaa  who  both  racaiva 
ordara  (roa  clianta  and  trada  on  thalr  own  account.  Moat  raqular 
aaabara  alao  underwrlta  aacurltiaa.  Spacial  aanbara  parfora  tha 
(unction  of  connacttng  sarkata  by  handling  ordaca  at  tha  Tokyo  or 
Oaaka  axchanqaa  which  could  not  ba  f Iliad  on  tha  ragional 
•KChangaa.  Excapt  In  aituatlona  of  unuaually  high  volusa,  atock 
•xchanga  Barbara  Hiut  awtd  ordara  to  tha  aaltorla  for  aKacutlon. 
Thaaa  ara  coapanias  who  ara  raaponalbl*  for  Matching  ordara  .and 
fixing  tha  prlca  foe  thoaa  atecka  aaalgnad  to  thai  by  tha 
Ixchanga.  Saitorla  cannot  trada  for  thalr  n 
atooka  to  whloh  thay  «e«  aaaignad. 


Stock  axehanga  Maabara  ara  baaka  or  atockbrokaraga  firaa. 
Stockbrekaraga  tlraa  aay  axacuta  tradaa  on  tbalr  own  Account  aa 
wall  aa  tor  clianta.  tanka  and  brokara  aay  trad*  dlractly 
batwaan  tbaaaalvaa,  without  intaraadiarlaa.  Bank*  aay  taka  tha 
otbar  alda  of  a  eusta«ar  trada. 


Maabara   ara   aithar   individual   brokara  er  aaihai 
Individual  brokara  aay  trada  for  thair  own  account 


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■■ab«r  fim.   Brokaraga  tiiaa  say  axacuta  ordars  fortolianta  or 
trada  tor  thair 


HaCliarlanda 

Banka  and  brokara  racalva  ordara  tra>  elianta.  All  ordara  ara 
tranaaittad  to  a  hoakaan,  or  apacialiat.  Tba  ^vciallata  axacuta 
Cradaa  in  a  particular  aat  of  aacurltiaa.  Thay  racaiva  ■ 
comiaalon  fora  tha  banka  and  brokara  for  parforaing  thla 
llMy  »ay  alae  trada  for  tbalr  own  a 


TlM  Buropaan  Option*  Bscbanga  ia  an  aaaoclation  nat  up  imdar 
Dutch  law.  Haabara  tncluda  banka,  brokara,  and  prlvata  teadara 
froa  Horth  Aaarica,  Canada,  Waatam  Buropa  and  tha  Far  Eaat. 
Public  crdar  aaabara  raoaiva  otdara  froa  th«  poblio  and  pa*a  tb«a 
to  a-  floor  brokar  tor  axaewtlon.  Xarkat  aakara  ara  tradara  who 
ar*  raaponalbla  for  aaking  a  saxlMt  in  thoaa  optlona  aaalgnad  to 
thaa.  Thay  act  axolualvaly  for  th«lr  own  aooeunt. 


Singapora 

Thara  ara  thraa  kinda  of  atock  axdiang*  daalar.  A  atockbrokar  ia 
a  aharaholdar  in  a  aaabar  (ira.  Ba  aay  act  both  for  ollanta  and 
for  hia  own  account.  A  daalar  ia  an  aaployaa  of  a  aaabar  fira. 
A  raaiaiar  ia  a  coaaiaaionad  agant  of  a  MMbax  f  Ira.  H*  aay  otay 
tranaact  bualnaaa  on  bahalf  of  tha  fira  ha  ia  axployad  by. 


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TO 

Tradas  can  alao  ba  carrlad  «ut  att   tha  floor  and  .entalda  of 

Tha  Stngapora  tntamational  Konatary  Cxchanga  la  a  fucuraa  Mrkat 
which  paraita  dual  trading  by  floor  brokar/tradara. 


South  Ktrlea 

Stockbrokara  primarily  trada  for  ellanta,  taut  aay  alao  trada  on 
thalr  own  account.  A  "daalar  In  atocKa  and  abaraa"  prlaarlly 
tradaa  tor  bla  own  •coeont,  bat  aay  alao  held  biaaalf  out  to^Uia 
public.  Trading  alao  takaa  placa  off  tho  axcfaangoi  typically 
dlraetly  botwoan  laatltutlonal  Invoatera,  ancii  aa  banka  or 
Insuranea  eo^anlaa. 


inka  or  diroetly  with  a 
atoekbrokar.  U.1  otdaz*  aust  ba  avaentad  by  a  atockbrokar. 
Stockbrokara  aay  not  trada  tor  tholr  own  aeoount. 


Swltiarlaiid 

Banka  ara  tha  only  Miabira  of  tha  stoek  axciianga.  MMbar  banks 
■ay  trada  althar  on  or  ott  tha  floor.  Oft  tbo  floor  trading 
paraita  bank*  to  aatoh  cuatoaar  ordara  against  oaA  otbar.  Banka 
■ay  trada  tor  ellanta  and  alao  trad*  dlraetly  wltk  aadi  otbar  aa 


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principals.    Panully,  Boat  orders  ara  axacutad  by.  tha  banka 
acting  aa  prlnclpala. 


Dnitad  Klngdoa 

Tha  London  Intamatlonal  Financial.  Puturaa  Exchanga  panalta  dual 
trading.  In  particular.  Public  Ordar  Haabara  ar«  paralttad  to 
trada  for  thalr  own  account*,  aa  wall  a*  tor  cuatoaara. 

Tba  naw  aacurltlaa  "aarkat"  ia  baaad  on  a  ayataa  of  broKar- 
daalara  functioning  in  a  dual  capacity,  trading  ■■  aganta  for 
cllanta  aa  wall  aa  prlnclpala  on  tbalr  own  account.  Brokar- 
daalara  say  alao  taka  tha  othar  aid*  of  a  euatoaac  ordar. 
Cartaln  brokar-daalara  act  aa  Markat  Bakar*  in  apaciflc 
aacurltlaa.  Thay  >ay  daal  dlcactly  with  invaatlng  cllanta. 
Intar-daalar  brokara  provida  a  aacbanlaa  tbrough  which  aarkat 
■akara  can  trada  anonyaoualy  with  aaeh  othar.  Intar-daalar 
brokara  ara  not  allowed  to  taka  pcaltiona  in  atooka.  Soaa  aarkat 
aakara  ara  located  off  tba  floor  In  tbalr  own  trading  rooaa  and 
1  by  talaphona. 


Unltml  Stataa 

Tha  Haw  Vork  Stock  Exchanqa  [NYSK)  paralta  tba  daaignatad 
apeciallat  to  trada  aa  a  broker 'a  broker  and  alao  to  trade  for 
Ita  own  account.  NYSE  broker/daalara  can  trada  for  thalr  own 
account  on  tha  NYSB  floor  aa  wall  aa  for  tbalr  cuatoaara,  but 


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tlMy  eaimoC  trad*  •bMKI  o(  thmlt     cuatoaars.    Othar  Stock 
Exchanqaa  hiva  alaiiar  rulaa. 

Tha  Chicago  Board  Options  Exehanqa  raqulraa  floor  tradara  to 
ehooaa  whathar  on  ■  qlvan  day  thay  will  axacuca  cuatotMr  bualna** 
axelualvaly  or  trada  (or  thalr  own  account  axeliulvaiy. 
Brokar/daalara  Mho  ar*  awtara  bava  aHpioyaaa  an  tha  tloor  who 
■ay  trada  for  thalr  tlra'a  aeeount  or  tor  cuatoaara. 
Ul  aajor  futuraa  Bxchangaa  paralt  dual  trading. 


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Statement  of 

Warren  Lebeck 

Representing  the 
National  Grain  Trade  Council 

Mi.  Chaunun  ind  Menben  of  the  Subeomniitne: 

My  name  u  WaiKii  Lebeck  and  I  q^Ku  before  you  tod^  KpRMMing  Ote  Nitumal  Gnin 
Tnik  CoundL   1  am  the  immediate  pan  '■>"'nnftn  of  dw  Coimdl  and  Kive  on  the 
organization's  Executive  ConunitKe.   On  behalf  of  the  63  nKmbet  orguiizationi  and 
companiet  of  the  QnincQ,  1  with  to  thank  you  foi  die  oppominity  to  (bare  om  views  wilh 
you  on  H.EL  2869.  Ihe  "Commodity  Futuies  bnprovementi  Act  of  19B9.' 


2.  To  advocate  and  defend,  coniiitent  with  pubHc  ioterett,  the  princqdes 
and  toeiitl  of  open  and  competitive  markets  for  tbe  discributioD  of  agiicultuiil 
conunoditiei. 

Council  memben  cover  the  full  ipectram  of  die  agiibuiineu  infiaitiunuie.   Our  memben 
include  fiimi  who  handle  buJk  giaim,  tranq>ott«tion  Snni,  conqwnie*  that  proceu  agricuhuial 
products  into  coisumer-ready  itemi  we  purchase  oo  the  groeeiy  thelf.  rwh  tiuiAels  where 
grain  it  bought  and  told,  and  futures  maikets  where  die  price  risks  associated  widi 
merchandiling  grain  are  hedged. 

Futures  mariwtt  and  the  gnin  trade  grew  up  side-by-side  in  die  United  StaKt  eeonoo^.   Since 
the  middle  of  the  last  century,  the  gtain  uidustiy  has  relied  on  futures  markets  to  hedge 
market  risks;  and  funirei  nu^ieti  have  fulfilled  duu  puipose  in  an  ^en  and  >ffWiTit  manner. 
American  coiuumen  are  dius  deep  into  their  second  century  of  eiOoying  the  wide-ianging 
beneRts  of  prke  efficiency  created  by  dus  economic  relalionsli^ 

It  is  economical^  true  that  mariuts  work  best  when  two  conditiont  are  met:    (I)  die  widen 
possible  number  of  bids  and  offers  are  available  in  aiiy  given  mariiet,  and  (2)  Aat  same 
maricet  it  free  from  artificial  restraints  and  influences  that  affect  price  discovery. 

Maximum  liquidity  means  free  and  open  access  to  the  market  by  die  widest  possible  spectrum 
of  buyers  and  sellers  who  have  individual  independent  opinions  about  the  price  of  a  given 
commodity.   Tlie  more  bids  and  offers  in  a  market,  the  better  wiH  be  the  price  discovered  in 
it;   and  the  more  bids  and  offen  in  a  market,  die  more  reliable  getting  in  and  out  of  it 
becomes  for  those  who  need  to  use  iL 


As  in  any  endeavor  where  people  are  invohfcd.  unfortunately  there  are  always  those  who  are 
lenqjled  to  finds  ways  to  gain  an  unfoir  advantage.   Consequently,  futures  maritets  must 
constant^  remain  vigilant  in  their  surveillance  and  market  protection  efforts. 


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Hie  Nabcmil  Grain  Trade  Coimcil,  thcrefoK.  lupporo  podtive  Improvwueiin  to  ptevum  and 
detect  ■buiei.  We  mon^  luppoit  most  elemenn  of  K.R.  2869  ind  wc  ttmisiy  endone  the 
Intent  o(  the  kjliliiiiiii 

:  nauthorizition  of  the  Commodity  Funina  Tradinf  riOmniininn  fOTQ- 
afoiAe  CFTC   To  the  extent  my 
■U  uncotiiiur  aboui  the  pemuneace  of 
V  of  US.  fuiurei  nudwU.   It  would  abo  eate  the 
id  tesulatory  letouicet  which  aie  now  divcited  evoy  three 


finfezprint  end  bacbfroimd  checks,  and  e  good  Mt  ctf  ttatutofy  fitnftt  qualificaliooi* 

FiThifl  minillH    We  nton^  nqipoit  the  piopoted  ethia  training  tequirenenti  fat 
those  regiitered  under  die  Commodity  Exchange  AcL   As  mi->iiinii>j|  enlier,  cxie  of  the 
CoundTi  ofajeoivei  is  to  promote  better  undemanding  of  grain  maifceting  by  the 
public    Futuies  madMs  aie  a  voy  complex  and  often  misundoilood  pan  <^  grain 
muketing.    For  this  reason,  we  believe  it  is  inqxutanl  fbi  the  putdic  to  peTccive  thai 
subject  to  such  mining 


;   For  nmilai  teason*.  we  strong  n^poit  the 

— T******  HJL  2869  wtnild  place  on  having  public  diiecton  on  exchange  governing 
boanb.   We  would  note  the  major  giain  exchanges  abeadjr  have  significanc  public 
repiexntatioii  OD  dieii  govemuig  boardi.   The  Council  Ukewue  qiplmd*  die  provision 
«4iieh  would  prohibit  exchange  meiaben  found  guilty  of  rule  violations  considered 
'roajot'  by  an  exchange  from  serving  on  such  boards  or  exchange  committees. 

The  National  Grain  Tnde  Council  bdiev««  the  two  most  critical  element*  of  die  biU.  howevier, 
are  die  audit  mil  and  dual  trading  provisiani.  The  Council  beUemi  these  two  areas  ecnam 
die  bur*  beM  and  worn  featnte*. 

The  beat  feature  of  K.R.  2869  is  iB  enqihasis  on  inqinmng  exchange  audit  IraiU.   The  ben 
way  to  curtail  potential  trading  abuses  is  to  have  audit  tiaib  flut  will  efleetively  catch  rule 
breakers.   The  test  is  not  «4iethcT  the  systems  meet  some  atbitraty  time  or  odier  standard. 
Hie  test  is  whether  the  systems  work.   Will  they  catch  violators  with  such  predictability  that 
diey  have  a.deienent  effect  as  well? 

Hie  members  of  the  Caundl  recognize  diere  is  no  such  thing  as  a  100  perceivt  accuraK  and 
verifiable  audit  trail    We  are  heartened  for  at  least  two  reasons  that  H.H.  2869  would  not  try 
to  establish  such  a  standard.    First,  it  is  deariy  a  complex  issue.   Thus  we  believe  tegulamry 
spedlics  should  be  established  by  the  Agency  subject  to  Congressional  oversi^L    We  bdleve 


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The  National  Giain  Tiade  CouncQ  endona  all  practical  tlforu  to  reach  tbat  goal   We  urge 
the  Congreu  to  eierdie  iti  ovmight  role  vigonnuly  to  eniure  the  C7TC  will  puih  faaid 
toward  diat  end:   audit  tiaili  that  icare  ofi  would-be  rule  violators  without  hanniiig  the 
DMitot  and  eiMomen  and  tndett  they  are  detigned  to  protect 

The  rule  violation  wue  biingt  me  to  the  Cmindrs  final  comment  on  K.R.  2869  -  dual 
trading.   The  biD  propoiet  to  limit  dual  tiading  to  iddien  the  possibilit)'  of  abuie  by  biokcra 
trading  ahead  of  tfaeii  cullonien.   Iliii  practice,  however,  can  be  best  prevented  thiou^  a 
lough  audit  trail 

Applying  ■iq'  ban  to  die  more  activety  traded  contracts  would  most  lignificantfy  threaten  the 
liquidity  in  defened  months  of  those  contracts.  Dual  trading  contributes  imponantly  as  an 
a4JU0ft  source  of  market  liquidity  in  those  back  months,  allowing  commercial  users  to  hedge 
future  sales.  Commercial  usen  ue  still  feeling  the  impact  of  reduced  liquidity  in  deferred 
months  which  occurred  following  Qmgressional  action  in  the  early  1980*$  to  require  that  all 
funnel  positions  be  marked-to-moriiet  for  tax  purposes  at  the  end  of  each  year.  A  move  that 
would  limit  dual  trading  would  futthet  damage  the  already  ftmgQe  liquidi^  io  those  deferred 
months. 

In  addition  to  harming  toaAet  liquidity,  a  ban  on  dual  trading  could  cause  the  more  successful 
broker/traden  to  choose  not  to  handle  customer  accounts.   As  a  practical  matter,  diis  could 
leave  public  cultomer  orders  in  the  hands  of  less  efSdent  brokers,  which  would  result  in 
worse,  not  better,  fills  for  diese  orders. 

Mr.  Ouumuui,  the  Council  feels  so  strong^  about  this  issue  because  as  commerdal  users  of 
futlues  markets,  our  members  do  not  have  the  hutury  of  being  able  to  stay  out  of  the  futures 
maritets.  We  must  be  and  we  are  buyers  and  sellers  of  futures  contracts  during  every  minute 
the  futures  markets  are  open.  The  economic  beneRl  of  additjorul  liquidity  is  difficult  to 
measure,  but  ir  is  teal  and  cannot  be  refuted.  Section  101  would  force  the  unknown  cost  of 
doing  without  it  onto  die  commercial  users  of  the  markets.  This  would  raise  costs  ruit  on^ 
for  market  useis,  but  for  all  dial  produce,  use,  or  consume  grain,  irt  short  -  all  of  us.  It 
seems  dear  to  us  diat  the  cost  of  this  supposed  remedy  gready  exceeds  any  perceived  benefits. 


The  efficiency  of  our  futures  markets  must  be  preserved  and  enhanced,  Mr.  Chairman.   As  I 
have  said,  the  National  Grain  Trade  Council  believes  H.R.  2869,  with  one  exception,  would  do 
just  thaL   The  answer  to  eradicating  possible  trade  practice  abuses  is  dirough  detection  and 


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'Xlie  CotmcQ  uiga  you  to  keep  ui  eye  imnrd  what  freatet  coniiibutiDnt  Anerican  futum 
mariua  can  provide  our  country.   Thii  very  Gunmiitee  cooiinuet  to  gnpple  wilh  die  ittnrt 
price  liiki  in  die  production  of  U.S.  commodiliei.    As  production  dediioiu  continue  to  move 
toward  maiket-drivcn  from  government-driven,  the  daiiic  risk-lhifting  functiani  at  futunt 


Aemrdingly,  Mr.  Chairman,  I  wiih  to  ckne  by  conylimrntinf  apin  die  tmphim  HJL  2U9 
would  place  on  audit  tiail  enhaneaneiit.  The  Ntdonil  Gtun  T^ade  Council  tatm^  vtfu  die 
Subcomininec  to  giw  die  CFTC  and  die  exchangei  all  potAle  n^peft  to  itiu  cod. 


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JOHN  L.  FREDRICKSON 

KEHTLAHD  ELEVATOR  &  SUPPLY,  INC. 

KENTLAND,  INDIANA 

Chairman  English  and  NEMBEfis  of  the  Committee: 

Ny  name  is  John  L.  Fredrickson.  1  am  a  partner  in  Kentland 
Elevator  S  Supply,  Inc.,  a  country  elevator  located  in  Northwest 
Indiana.  I  have  been  involved  in  the  management  of  grain 
elevators  for  over  twenty  years.  I  ALSO  own  and  operate  a  small 

FARM,    SERVE   AS   AN  OFFICER  OF   OUR  STATE  GRAIN  AND  FEED  ASSOCIATION, 
AND  SERVE   AS    DIRECTOR   OF   AN    INSURANCE   COMPANY. 

The  firm  I  represent  is  an  independently  owned  country  grain 

ELEVATOR  WITH  THREE  LOCATIONS.   THE  PRIMARY  BUSINESS  OF  OUR 
COUNTRY  ELEVATOR  IS  PURCHASING  GRAIN  FROM  AREA  FARMERS  AND 
RESELLING  IT  TO  GRAIN  PROCESSORS,  GRAIN  EXPORTERS  AND  LIVESTOCK 
AND  POULTRY  FEEDERS. 

When  WE  PURCHASE  GRAIN  FROM  A  FARMER,  WE  ARE  AT  RISK  IN  THE 
MARKET  UNTIL  WE  HAVE  SOLD  THE  GRAIN.   WE  HAY  CHOOSE  TO  SELL  THE 

grain  to  a  user  for  immediate  delivery.  or  we  may  choose  to  keep 
the  grain  in  one  of  our  storage  facilities  to  sell  at  a  later 
time.  if  we  choose  to  store  the  grain,  we  must  transfer  the 
market  risk  to  someone  else  immediately.  this  is  accomplished  by 
hedging  the  grain  in  the  futures  market  at  the  chicago  board  of 
Trade.  We  place  an  order  to  sell  futures  contracts  for  the  amount 
of  grain  we  have  purchased.  when  we  decide  it  is  no  longer 

economically  feasible  to  hold  the  GRAIN.  THE  FUTURES  PORTION  OF 
THIS  TRANSACTION  IS  OFFSET  BY  BUYING  FUTURES  CONTRACTS  AT  THE  SAME 
TIME  THE  CASH  GRAIN  IS  SOLD.   OUR  ELEVATOR'S  MARGIN  IS  THE  SELLING 
BASIS,  LESS  THE  BUYING  BASIS, 


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The  execution  of  the  futuoes  orders  is  a  critical  component 

OF  THE  transaction.  AND  MUST  BE  CONPLETED  AT  THE  BEST  POSSIBLE 
PRICE  AND  EXECUTED  PROMPTLY.   ThE  LIQUIDITY  AND  FLEXIBILITY 
PROVIDED  BY  DUAL  TRADERS  MHO  CAN  TRADE  FOR  THEIR  OWN  ACCOUNT  AS 
WELL  AS  EXECUTE  CUSTONEft  ORDERS.  IS  A  CONTRIBUTING  FACTOR  FOR  OUR 
COUNTRY  ELEVATOR  TO  OBTAIN  THE  BEST  PRICE  AT  THE  LOWEST  COST. 

SOMETIMES  WE  NAY  DETERMINE  THAT  IT  IS  NOT  ECONOMIC  TO  SELL 
THE  CASH  GRAIN  A$  THE  FUTURES  EXPIRATION  APPROACHES  AND  DECIDE  TO 
'ROLL'  THE  HEDGE  FORWARD  TO  A  DEFERRED  CONTRACT  MONTH.   THIS 
TRANSACTION  IS  CALLED  A  SPREAD  SINCE  IT  INVOLVES  THE  SIMULTANEOUS 
PURCHASE  AND  SALE  OF  FUTURES  CONTRACTS  IN  DIFFERENT  MONTHS. 
SUCCESSFUL  EXECUTION  OF  A  SPREAD  TRADE  IS  OBTAINED  BY  UTILIZING  AN 
EXPERIENCED  DUAL  TRADER  WHO  CAN  'LEG'  INTO  THE  POSITION  BY 
EXECUTING  ONE  SIDE  OF  THE  TRADE  WHEN  PRICES  FOR  THAT  CONTRACT  ARE 
HOST  FAVORABLE.   HE  HAY  NOT  BE  ABLE  TO  OBTAIN  THE  DESIRED  PRICE 
FOR  THE  OTHER  LEG  OF  THE  TRADE,  BUT  NAY  PLACE  IT  IN  HIS  OWN 
ACCOUNT  AT  A  SLIGHT  LOSS  IN  ORDER  TO  SATISFY  THE  CUSTOMER  AND  KEEP 
HIS  BUSINESS.   The  ability  of  the  dual  trader  to  obtain  FAVORABLE 
PRICES  FOR  SPREAD  TRADES  HELPS  INCREASE  THE  LIQUIDITY  IN 
RELATIVELY  LESS  ACTIVE  DEFERRED  CONTRACTS.  AND  RESULTS  IN  MORE 
ACCURATE  INDICATIONS  TO  MARKET  PARTICIPANTS  OF  THE  COST  OF 
CARRYING  COMMODITIES. 


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The  banning  of  dual  trading  could  increase  transaction  costs 
for  our  elevator  by  widening  bios  and  offers  due  to  less  pit 

PARTICIPATION.   This  increased  cost  KILL  CAUSE  EITHER  A  REDUCTION 

in  our  return  on  investneht,  or  a  reduction  in  prices  paid  to 
farmers  by  our  firm. 

Dual  trading  increases  the  supply  of  both  brokers  and  floor 
traders  because  a  dual  trader  can  earn  income  from  two  sources  to 
cover  the  cost  of  training,  an  exchange  seat  and  time  spent  on  the 
FLOOR.  Dual  trading  encourages  greater  competition  between 
brokers,  thus  keeping  commission  charges  down.  if  dual  trading  is 
banned.  the  best  brokers  will  trade  for  their  own  account, 
decreasing  the  number  of  brokers  available  to  execute  orders  for 
our  elevator.  this  will  reduce  the  liquidity  of  the  marketplace. 
thus  making  it  more  difficult  to  have  our  orders  executed  promptly 
at  the  market. 

Dual  trading  is  voluntary  on  the  part  of  customers] 
customers  can  now  prohibit  their  brokers  from  dual  trading  if  they 
choose.  additionally.  u.s.  futures  exchanges  are  engaged  in  a 
continuing  process  of  improving  their  market  surveillance 
systems.  if  abuses  can  be  curbed  through  adequate  surveillance, 
there  is  no  reason  to  eliminate  a  practice  like  dual  trading  which 
contributes  to  the  liquidity  for  which  american  markets  are  known. 


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SlHPLV  STATED.  THE  IDEAL  LEGISLATION  WOULD  PRESERVE  DUAL  TRADING 
MHILE  INSURING  THE  EXCHANGES  BEAR  THE  RESPONSIBILITY  FOR  DCTECTltH 
ITS  POSSIBLE  ABUSE. 

I  STRONGLY  URGE  CONGRESS  TO  EVALUATE  THE  PROS  AND  CONS  OF 
DUAL  TftADINQ  BEFORE  MAKING  A  FINAL  DECISION  ON  THIS  VITAL  ISSUE. 
YOUR  DECISION  MILL  EFFECT  THE  ENTIRE  AGfflCULTURAL  INDUSTRY.  AS 
WELL  AS  THE  FUTURE  OF  OUR  MARKETS. 


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DAVE  DANKER 
BUCKHSIT  ORKIN,  INC. 
PERRYVILLB,  HO   63775 

Chairman  English  and  nteinb«rs  of  tb«  Connittee,  my  name  Is 
Dav«  Danker  and  I  «dd  the  Vice  President  and  General  Manager  of 
Buchheit  Grain,  inc.,  located  in  Perryvllle,  Missouri.   Buchhelt 
Grain  is  part  of  a  small,  family-owned  feed,  grain  and  general 
merchandise  business  founded  In  1934. 

My  purpose  In  coming  here  to  speak  to  you  today  Is  to  attempt 
to  explain  how  we  use  the  futures  markets.  In  particular  the 
spread  market,  to  affectively  manage  our  business  and  how  that 
relates  to  one  of  the  aubjects  your  Coomlttee  is  reviewing,  i.e., 
dual  trading.   Me  have  approximately  1,250,000  bushels  of  apace  In 
two  different  locations.   In  order  to  survive  aa  a  grain  merchant, 
we  must  fill  all  of  our  apace  at  harvest  and  hopefully  handle 
60-70%  of  that  volume  once  again  after  harvest.   In  order  to 
manage  this  need  in  a  business-like  eanner,  it  is  imperative  that 
wa  pre-spread  our  space  and  the  volume  of  grain  that  w«  hope  to 
handle  post-harvest.   A  brief  example  of  pre-apreadlng  would  be 
the  simultaneous  purchasing  of  10,000  bushels  of  December  Com 
futures  while  selling  10,000  bushels  of  March  Com  futures.   As 
the  corn  is  purchased  from  farmers  during  October,  we  simply  sell 
December  Corn  futures.   This  automatically  spreads  the  purchase 
out  to  the  March  futures  position. 

Pre-spreadlng  is  an  inexact  science,  but  as  one  gains 
experience,  it  becomes  easier  to  establish  reasonable  goals  and 
achieve  then.   We  like  to  enter  our  spread  orders  prior  to  the 
time  the  contract  actually  trades.   Oftentimes  this  results  In 


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getting  a  good  till  that  Bay  iMwr  b*  avallabla  at  any  othar  tlaa 
during  tha  asckatlng  cycla.  Quit*  oftan,  dua  to  poor  liquidity  in 
thoaa  dlatant  contract  aonths,  our  brokar  has  to  'tag*  a  apraad  in 
ordar  to  gat  it  flll*d.  By  lagging  tha  apraad,  tha  brokar  tirat 
takaa  ona  aida  of  tha  apraad,  than  filla  tha  othar  atda  aa  aoon  aa 
ha  la  abla. 

During  tha  tiaa  alapaad  batwaan  tha  axacutlon  of  both  laga  of 
tha  apraad,  tha  brokar  aaBuiMa  tha  rlak  of  not  gattlng  tha  apraad 
tillad  at  or  abova  ay  ordar.   If  ha  foila  to  aoooivllah  that  fill 
and  anda  up  trading  tha  apraad  at  a  laaaar  aaount,  tha  loaa  la  for 
hia  acXMSunt.   A  brokar'a  ability  to  dual  troda  glvaa  hla  an 
opportunity  to  offaat  thaaa  loaaaa  by  trading  tor  hia  own  account 
throughout  tha  day.   I  faal  that  thla  aakaa  apraad  brokara  aora 
Hilling  to  tska  chancaa  in  ordar  to  gat  thalr  i  iialiwai  a  tha  baat 
poaaibla  fill,  tharaby  Maintaining  thalr  raputatlon  and  poaltlon 
In  tha  Barkatplaca. 

I  had  a  peraonal  aaperlanca  with  thia  aituation  laat  wlntar 
that  I  would  Ilka  to  ahara  with  you.   Laat  January,  I  bagan 
planning  tor  tha  19B9-90  aarkatlng  yaar.   I  budgatad  tha  purchaaa 
of  200,000  buahala  of  aoybaana  at  harvaat.   I  aatlaatad  that  wa 
could  buy  at  harwat,  atora  and  latar  raaall  aoybaana  If  wa  oould 
gat  our  November /March  spraada  aat  at  17  canta/buahal  or  battar. 
I  callad  ay  trading  flra  and  antarad  an  ordar  to  apraad  200 
Novaabar /March  aoybaana  at  17  canta  or  battar.  A  Caw  daya  aftar 


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th«  March  '90  soybean  contract  cane  on  tha  board,  my  spread  got 
filled  at  19  c«nt a /bushel .   Given  what  I  know  about  epread 
conditions  at  that  tlMe,  I  have  to  assuae  that  the  trade  was 
legged  by  the  broker. 

Now,  I  realise  that  not  all  trades  will  have  such  a  happy 
ending,  but  I  believe  that  It  illustrates  ay  point  that  If  you 
trade  through  a  brokerege  firm  that  does  the  Job  In  policing  and 
controlling  the  trading  activities  of  the  brokers  that  it  uses, 
you  can  get  good  honeat  ftlla.   It  aeeaa  to  ne  that  If  a  customer 
Is  knowledgeable  about  the  current  condltlone  of  the  Market, 
offers  spreads,  options  and  futures  transactions  at  a  given  level 
or  better,  he  will  obtain  the  fill  he  wants. 

Tha  key  to  obtaining  these  fills  la  In  prior  evaluation  of 
the  guallty  of  broker  that  you  choose  to  deal  with  and  In  the 
ealBtence  of  surveillance  aystens  that  detect  and  deter  abuse. 
The  ISBue  is  not  whether  the  broker  dual  trades.   The  real  issue 
IB  whether  or  not  there  are  sdaquete  monitoring  systems  In  place 
to  detect  cases  where  the  practice  of  dual  trading  Is  abused. 

In  Bumaary,  I  would  like  to  stress  that  I  feel  tha  current 
system  of  allowing  brokers  to  both  fill  orders  and  take  risks  for 
their  own  account,  provides  e  more  liquid  Market  and,  most 
probably,  a  more  aggressive  trader.   The  system,  as  It  exists,  has 
provided  us  with  the  structure  to  build  a  successful  small 
business.   I  would  like  to  encourege  you  to  provide  a  means  for 
protecting  and  improving  the  integrity  of  the  current  system  of 
dual  trading  rather  than  changing  soaathlng  that.  In  my  opinion, 
already  works. 


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Raaarka  of  Joavph  J.   Kui«,   Floor  Broker, 

B«rora  tbo  Subooaaltto*  on  CanB«rv*tlOD,   Cradlt  M>d  Rural 

Dav*lo|MMnt   of  the  Houaa  Agrioultur*  Coaaitto* 

July  20,    1989 


Chalrnan  Ensllah  and  Heab«r3  or  th«  Coaaittfle: 

Thank  you  Tar  letting  ne  appear  before  you  today.   Hy  naae  la 
Joseph  J.  Kane.   I  am  a  diember  of  the  Chicago  Board  of  Trade  and 
have  been  a  floor  broker  since  1952.   I  have  alao  been  a  neaber  of 
nuoeroua  other  exchangea  Including  the  Chicago  Hercantlle  Exchange 
and  the  Hew  Xork  Coffee,  Sugar  &  Cocoa  Buchange.   For  seven  yeara, 
I  Has  a  director  of  the  Chicago  Board  of  Trade  and  have  served  on 
Bost  of  the  Exchange's  aajor  conmlttees  Including  the  Bualnesa 
Conduct  and  Floor  Governors  CoDnltteea.   In  fact.  In  1968,  I  was 
chalraan  of  the  Reorganization  CoBDlttee  that  vas  responsible  for 
Introducing  public  nenbers  to  our  Board  of  Directors  and  for 
creating  the  Floor  Covernora  Conalttee  which  has  prloary 
responsibility  for  policing  the  conduct  of  our  Beiibers  on  the 
Exchange  floor.   I  was  born,  raised  and  educated  In  Chicago  and  am 
the  father  of  eight  children.   Many  of  ny  children  have  worked  In 
one  capacity  or  another  in  the  futures  business. 

I  have  been  at  the  Chicago  Board  of  Trade  long  enough  that  I 
can  say  I  knew  the  grandfathers  of  two  of  our  present  meaberB  of 
the  Board  of  Directors.  I  know  the  Board  of  Trade's  rules, 
cuatoma  and  practlcea.   I  have  aeen  thoae  rulea,  customs  and 
practices  evolve.   I  have  also  seen  the  conpetltion  for  business 
which  exists  on  the  floor  and  the  solid  ethical  standards  upheld 


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by  Doat  DeniberB  combine  as  a  potent  tarae   for  the  protection  of 

Navarth«leaa,  I  know  this  SubcoDDlttee  la  concerned  about  the 
practice  of  dual  trading.   I  believe  I  an  In  a  good  poaition  to 
dlscuas  this  practice  and  the  rules  which  govern  this  practice 
because,  throughout  ay   tblrty-seven  years  as  a  floor  broker,  I 
have  also  routinely  traded  for  my  own  account.  Over  the  years,  I 
have  given  a  lot  of  thought  to  the  subject  of  dual  trading.   In 
1975,  I  was  co-author  of  a  study  on  that  topic  whtoh  foraed  a  part 
of  the  Report  of  the  Chalraan  of  the  Advisory  Connlttee  on  the 
Regulation  of  Contract  Markets  and  Self  Regulatory  Associations  of 
which  I  was  a  neDber  which  waa  subnitted  to  the  CFTC  that  year. 

In  that  report,  we  cane  to  the  conclusion  that  dual  trading 
waa  a  aajor  Ingredient  In  the  liquidity  of  our  marketa  and  that 
its  elimination  would  impair  that  liquidity  without  conferring  any 
maaaurable  benefits  on  the  publio.   We  recoBBended  that  dual 
trading  be  preaarved  but  that  rules  be  adopted  which  elearljr 
prohibit  a  broker  buying  or  selling  for  his  own  account  while 
holding  orders  for  others  at  the  market  or  at  the  saae  price.  We 
also  racomaended  that  surveillance  systems  b«  Improved  so  that  the 
exchanges  In  conjunction  with  the  CPTC  could  ensure  that  abuses  of 
that  and  other  practices  were  detected  and  punished. 

I  believe  our  reooBDendatlona  were  valid  than  and  that  the 
last  14  years  have  vividly  demonstrated  their  validity.   In  the 
intervening  yeara,  our  markets  have  enjoyed  an  unprecedented 
growth  In  volume  and  liquidity,  making  them  the  envy  of  the 
world.   At  {he  same  time,  the  Chicago  Board  of  Trade  and  other 


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exohangas  adoptad  atralBhtrc 
trading,  1>«. •  trading  ahi 
violation. 

And,  Host  laportant  i 
particular,  tha  last  Tlva  ] 
unlaaglnabla  in  197S, 
aurvelllanca  ayateaa  for  del 
trading  ahaad  .   In  partli 
co-daalgnad  bj   the  Chicago  E 
Harcantlla  Bxchanga  haa  d«>c 
oapabilltr  offered  b]r  no 
least  that  was  the  view  « 
Praaldential  Task  Paree  ichl< 

I  don't  pretend  I 


1  Bake  the  slauae  of  dual 
-  order,  a  trade  practice 


ar  the  last  ten  years  and.  In 
a  exchangea  ha*a  taken  strldea, 
create  and  lapleaent  effective 

iting  all  trading  abuaea,  including 
the  coMputerlied  audit  trail 
i   Board  of  Trade  and  the  Chioago 
»onstrated  •  deteotlon  and  deterranoe 

'  financial  aarket  in  the  world.   It 
:presaed  by  Nicholas  Brady  ae  head  of  the 
I  studied  the  1967  stock  aarket  craah. 
t  for  the  entire  floor  broker 
oOBBuntty  in  ooalng  here  today.  But  I  know  if  I  conducted  a 
survey  of  the  Many,  aany  reaponslble  floor  brokers  with  whoa  I 
work  each  day,  they  would  want  to  stress  for  you  the  followiiig 
points.   First,  they  would  tell  you  that  you  would  tak*  away  a 
■ajor  aeans  of  servicing  their  custoaare  if  you  take  away  dual 
trading.  Dual  trading  allows  a  floor  broker  to  go  after  tha  beat 
rill  for  hla  cuatoaer  knowing  the  broker  has  the  fleklblllty,  if 
neoeaaary,  to  trade  out  of  resultant  losing  poaltiona  through  hla 
personal  account  whenever  the  opportunity  arlaea.  Second,  they 
would  tell  you  they  aupport  the  adoption  of  the  beat.  Boat 
coBprehenalve  aurvelllance  ayatea  devisable  as  a  aeana  of 
protecting  theaaelvea  as  wall  aa  thair  cuatoaera. 


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The  Dessage  I  would  leave  with  you  la  sinple.  He  have  the 
beat,  moat  liquid  narkets  in  the  world.  I  an  not  an  eoonomist, 
but  I  believe  a  rational  review  oT  the  econonlc  literature 
available  on  the  subject  will  lead  to  the  conclusion  that  dual 
trading  haa  contributed  to  the  unrivaled  suooess  of  our  narketa. 
In  copying  every  aspect  of  our  market  formula  in  an  effort  to  win 
business  from  us,  foreign  marketa  have  also  copied  us  in 
perttittlng  dual  trading.  But  foreign  markets  do  not  have  our 
surveillance  capability.   They  don't  have  the  know-how  and  they 
don't  have  the  commitment  to  eliminate  trading  abuses  and  the 
perception  that  such  abuses  exist.  Let  ua  use  our  know-hou  and 
our  comfflitment  to  keep  U.S.  marketa  in  their  preeninent  position. 
Hith  your  help.  Me  can  preserve  our  llquiditr,  and  all  the  factors 
that  contribute  to  it,  including  dual  trading,  while  reinforcing 
the  integrity  for  which  we  lust  equally  be  known. 


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Sli>c.r«ly, 

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Congrssciun  Glann  Englliri 

eeOb  Rayburn  Hdu»  Offica  Building 

UHtiington,   D.C.      E0313'36D6 

Dear  CongrBmmiun  English: 

th<t    Hould    rastrict    dual    traOing    ir   certdir    ruturas   narkal^. 

Our   fir«  uses  suijar.  futures  s>ten*ively   Co  nedge   its  price  ri«l-».      It    is   iapor- 
tint   that   the  narkats  f  use   for   the  purpose  are  sufficiently   liquid   to   aseiira 

ity  Htll   result   in   jncreaw  costs  of  operations,   Hhich   xltl   be  passed  on   to 
could   hurt   their    liquidity.      Ue,    therefore,   urge   that   no   restrictions  De  adopted 


J.i^Jt  ffC£e^^ 


.,Q,oo<^z 


■  *- 


JLIU.JL'SUmu 


Hon,  Clam  Ingltili.  Chairman 
Eloua*  Agricultural  Sufcco^tca*  o 
Conaarvattoa,  Cradle  and  luial  I 
Rofl*  1301,  LnigifOTth  Houaa  Offle*  Bulldlnf 
Waahlnston.   B.C.      20S1S 

■•:     m  3lt«  Tha  CuMadlty  futuna  taprovaaaat  Act  of  L9B9 

I>aar  Qwliaan  tacllah: 

Tha  RaH  York 

Foundad  In  1170,  HTC^  la  tha  oldaat  cs^ndlcy  aschan(a  In  >a«  Tark  and  takaa 
graac  prtda  In  lu  120  yaara  of  aarviea  to  tha  cotton  trada  and  to  dia  piAllc. 
Hanca.  wa  ara  particularly  grataCul  for  jrour  concam  and  Incaraat  la  t^ 
tntogrley  and  afttclancy  of  tha  coawMUt;  fucuraa  Mtkata  In  cha  Italtad 


Ua  baliava  that  dual  trading  abould  contlnua  to  ba  allomd  with 
approprlata  aaphaali  on  accurata  audit  tralli  and  rlgoroua  onforcoaaat  o 
axchanga  rulaa. 


Ha  ara  aattatiad  that  our  praaant  ara^as  of  capturing  tha  Blnuta-by- 
alnuta  asacution  tlH  la  aftactlva.   Ua  ata  coneomad  that  tha  propoaad 
■10  aacend  rula'  would  raault  In  inctoaaad  Inaccuraelaa. 

Tha  Exchanga  «111  conttnua  vtgotoua  antorcaaant  of  Ita  audit  trail  rulaa 
and  ia  proparad  to  taka  ptoapt  action  agalnat  aif  aaabar  ahoaa 
parfoiaanca  lapalra  tha  affactlvanaaa  of  our  audit  trail. 


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Tha  CFTC  la  ts  b«  appluidad  for  noC  ■andatlng  ona  iyilam  tor  all 
axehangaa.   Rachar.  tha  CFTC  has  follosad  ■  parfocBanca  atandard  vhlch 
alltnra  aaeh  axchanga  to  tiava  Ita  own  Bachaniaa,   Conaaquantl^,  tha  ihatad 
goal  ahould  not  ba  Co  saiulata  on*  audit  trail  lyataa,  but  rachac  tha 
foatatlng  of  aceuraca  and  affactiva  audit  tralla  on  aach  of  our  aarkota. 

(3)   Thraa.Bav  CoollM  Off  Parlod 


■atlat . 

flrokar  Aaaop-lationa 

aioeiatlon  attanpta  t 

D  diractly  and  that  ■ 
ttia  ciutooaT'a  oaac  mtaraata.  that  bcokar  aaaoclation  ahould  ba 
ptohlbitad  froa  doing  lo.   Ua  do  not  balLava  a  atatic  niiriHc  <a,g.  2S(] 
la  tha  appToprlata  nay  to  daal  vlth  chla.  Rathar,  «a  ballava  chat  audit 
trail  racorda  and  trada  practica  aurvaillanca  progTama  naad  Co  ba 
•ufficlantly  aophlatlcacad  to  laolata  thoaa  activltiai.   Thacaaftar, 
proapc  and  aftactiva  dlaclplinary  action  ahould  ba  takan  to  root  out  auch 
prohibltad  actlvltiaa, 

Paraananc  Ba-autharit.tion 


Wa  agro*  that  tha  CFTC  ahould  bacona  a  pamananc  aganejr. 

Dndareavar  Survalllatica 

Ua  ballava  that  tha  ovarc  aurvaillanca  that  aliaady  tskaa  placa  tn  tha 
aschanga  coimunity  la  thorough  and  producClva.  Ua  do  not  ballava  thara 
la  any  laglalativa  naad  or  purpoaa  aarvad  by  alngling  out  ai^  Induatry, 
nhathar  it  ba  tha  banking  induatry.  dafanaa  eontractora,  haalth  eaca,  oc 
any  othar  Induatry.  for  fadaral  undareovar  oparatlona.   Thoaa.  «o 
praauaa.  taka  plaea  whan  and  aa  cha  appropriata  Ian- anf otcananc  agoneiaa 


<7)   Govamtni  Hoarda 

Aa  an  Exchango  iihleh  haa  had  public  board  Bambar  rapraaantaclon  for  noto 
than  a  daeada,  tra  aupport  tha  concapt  of  public  sai^Tahlp  but  do  not 
aubacrlba  to  a  rigoroua  pareancaga  (10%)  auch  aa  chat  found  In  tha 
propoaad  bill. 

On  cha  lubjact  of  barring  cartaln  rula  vlalatora  from  aarvlca  on 
governing  boarda  for  a  parlod  of  yaara.  wa  andoraa  and  foatar  that 
concapt.   Houavar.  axparianca  ahowa  that  ona  axchanga'i  cata|orlzatlon  o 
a  violation  may  ba  dlffaranc  froa  anothar'a,  avan  though  tbay  uaa  tha 
taaa  ot  dlffaranc  labala.  Fcohlbltion  froa  govamlng  boarda  for  a 
threa-yaar  period  aa  a  penalty  for  a  rula  vlolacton  ahould  ba  handlad  on 
a  caia-by-case  baala  by  aach  exchange  for  aarloua  violation*, 


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Il.tr.-in.   nf   BttelpUniTT   f^"— "^"T 

Ua  b*tt*w*  dlaclpllnary  coaBlctm  ■hmild  to  axpart  and  raaeh  fait  and 
proopt  daelaloiw.     Va  baLlava  tfesc  ■  lysMa  of  catagotliBClon  of 
participant*  on  dliclpllnary  paiula  la  valuabla  eoly  to  tha  aitant  diat 
It  doaa  not  tntartar*  with  thoaa  |oala. 


Thla  bcbans*  Jolnad  with  other  lav  Tork  aaehangaa  In  Inaugutatlng  a 
CBsporatlva  athlca  eoura*.     Our  Board  appravad  that  concapt  In  Paea^ar 
I  ara  plaaaad  with  tba  na^r  In  iihlch  It  la  totn( 


opaaala  ara  propar  and  haa  n 

t  hava  aafcad  dta  Praatdapt  of  tha  bchanga,  Joaaph  J.  O'Valll,   and  our 
Uaahlnston  rapraaantatlT*.  Uaa  HcAdan,    to  ba  avatlabla  to  tto  SubeoMlttM  an 
Ita  ataff  with  laapact  to  any  ^uaatlsna  that  say  atlaa  aa  Oa  la|Ul«tloa 
ptocaada.     I,  ot  couraa,  vlll  to  |lad  to  tolp  in  ttot  aftort 


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July  18,  1»B9 


Th*  BonocBbl*  Glann  Engllih,  ChalrMln 
Subconralttee  on  Conaecvatlon,  Credit 

and  Rural  Davelopnent 
Rouse  Conunlttee  on  Agiicultui« 
1301  Longworth  Home  Office  Bldg. 
Maatilngton,  DC  20515 

Dear  CongcesBnan  Bngliahi 

This  letter  explains  wby  we  fuE&E  dual  trading  on  the  CoffeCi 
Sjgai  i   cocoa  Exchange. 

For  peiBpective,  the  wcitec  ha«  been  a  Beiiiber  of  CSCE  alnc* 
1945.  Thia  makes  »e  the  oldest  active  aeitfwc  in  aenioiity.   I  bav* 
served  on  the  Exchange  Boatd  and  Many  Exchange  CoBniitt««i>  although 
I  have  never  been  a  floor  broker  or  floor  trader. 

In  my  Judgsent,  no  valid  reason  so  far  has  been  ahown  why  dual 
trading  should  be  prohibited  on  this  Bxcbang*.  On  the  contrary!  w* 
believe  such  a  ban  would  importantly  impAir  liguidityl 

Please  do  not  throw  out  th*  baby  with  th*  bath  water. 

Since r*ly, 

B.  M.  DVER  t  COHFMn 

Dajiiel  L.  Dyer 
Pattnar 


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Th«  Konorabl«  Gl«nn  English  July  31,  19B9 

Chalcman 

Subccmnltta*  on  Conasrvation,  Credit 

and  Rural  Development 
Houae  Connlttee  on  Agriculture 
1301  Lonqworth  House  Office  Bldg. 
Nashington,  DC  20515 


Dear  He.  Englli 

Me  ai 

Reauthoilzatlor 

As  a  large  futures  coimiisslon  merchant  company 
which  uses  the  Coffee,  Sugar  (  Cocoa  Exchange  every  day,  we 
stEongly  feel  that  the  CFTC  Reauthorization  Bill  will  piove 
haniful  to  the  CSCE  and  the  other  comnodlty  exchanges  in  the 
□nited  States  If  passed.   The  Bill  would  Induce  a  loss  of 
liquidity  which  Is  an  essential  factor  to  the  proper 
functioning  of  any  exchange.   This,  In  turn,  would  dlainish 
the  volume  reducing  the  Market's  viability  as  a  hedging  tool. 

Moreover,  the  Bill  presents  provisions  that  ace 
redundant  to  the  existing  regulatory  powers  of  the  CFTC,  and 
asks  for  a  reauthorization  of  appropriations  every  two  years, 
which  Is  too  frequent  to  allow  the  CFTC  to  conduct  its 
regulatory  mission  effectively  and  impartially. 

He  hope  you  will  agree  with  us  that  the  CFTC 
Reauthorization  Bill  will  do  more  harm  than  good  to  the  US 
futures  Industry.   Meanwhile,  we  are  available  for  any 
questions  you  may  have. 


Sincerely  yoursJi, 


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The  Honorable  Glenn  English  July  31,  1989 

Subcommittee  on  Conservation,  Credit 

and  Rural  Development 
House  Committee  on  Agriculture 
1301  Longuorth  House  Office  Bldg. 
Washington,  DC  20515 

Dear  Mr.  English: 


As  a  large  sugar  trading  company  which  uses  the 
Coffee,  Sugar  i    Cocoa  Exchange  every  day,  we  strongly  feel 
than  Che  CFTC  Reauthorization  Bill  will  prove  harmful  to  the 
CSCE  and  Che  other  commodity  exchanges  in  the  United  States 
if  passed.   The  Bill  would  induce  a  loss  of  liquidity  which 
is  an  essential  factor  to  the  proper  functioning  of  any 
exchange.   This,  in  turn,  would  diminish  the  volume  reducing 
the  Market's  viability  as  a  hedging  tool. 

Moreover,  the  Bill  presents  provisions  that  are 
redundant  to  the  existing  regulatory  powers  of  the  CFTC,  and 
asks  for  a  reauthorization  of  appropriations  every  two  years, 
uhich  is  Coo  frequent  Co  allow  the  CFTC  to  conduct  Its 
■  regulatory  mission  effectively  and  impartially. 

We  hope  you  will  agree  with  us  that  the  CFTC 
Reauthorization  Bill  will  do  more  harm  than  good  to  the  US 
futures  industry.   Meanwhile,  we  are  available  for  any 
questions  you  may  have. 


„Coogle 


CZNTilflDW  Riluras  kic 


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STATEMENT  SUBMITTED  BV 


CONSERVATION,  CREDIT  AND 

RURAL  DEVELOPMENT 

JULX  20,  1989 

My  name  is  Dan  Huber.  I  am  a  Gcoup  Vice  President 
with  Cargill   Incorporated,   Minneapolis,   Minnesota. 

Cargill  merchandises  and  processes  agricultural  and 
other  commodities.  We  make  significant  use  of  futures 
markets  for  hedging  purposes.  I  emphasize  that  the 
views  I  express  in  this  statement  stem  from  Cargill 's 
experience  as  a  commercial   hedger. 

When  we  and  other  commercial  interests  use  futures 
markets  to  hedge  some  of  our  price  risks,  we  require 
that  those  markets  provide  two  things:  liquidity  and 
integrity. 

We  need  markets  with  enough  volume  and  open  interest 
so  that  we  can  enter  them  and  exit  from  them  without 
creating  undue  volatility.  We  need  markets  with 
sufficient  volume  throughout  all  the  months  traded  eo 
that  we  can  move  or  spread  those  hedges  from  nearby 
months  to  deferred  positions. 


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Comtrclal  userSf  as  w*ll  >■  the  public,  also  need 
to  have  absolute  confidence  in  the  integrity  of  the 
■arketa.  He  want  to  know  that  our  orders  will  be 
honestly  executed. 

He  conpliment  the  Chalrnan  and  nenbers  of  this 
Bubconnnittee  for  focusing  legislation  reauthorizing  the 
CPTC  on  these  twin  goals.  He  support  the  general  thrust 
of  your  efforts  and  will  focus  our  coaaents  on  the 
balance  that  needs  to  be  struck  In  pursuit  of  the  twin 
goals  of  integrity  and  liquidity. 

DUAL    TRADING 

Dual  trading  --  the  practice  whereby  a  floor  broker 
nay  trade  for  his  own  account  or  fill  custoaer  orders 
during  the  same  time  period  —  is  an  inpoctant  factor 
that  helps  provide  market  volume  and  liquidity.  The 
proposed  legislation  clearly  recognizes  this.  There  Is 
nothing   inherently  evil  about  dual   trading. 

In  fact,  at  Cargill  we  prefer  that  the  independent 
floor  brokers  we  use  to  execute  our  orders  also  trade 
for  their  own  account.  He  find  that  this  experience 
broadens  their  market  view,  gives  then  a  better  'feel* 
for  the  market  and  helps  then  develop  execution 
strategies   for  our  orders  that   lead  to  better  fills. 


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Limiting  or  eliminating  dual  trading  promises  other 
costs  as  well.  Usually  the  best  brokers  are  found  in 
the  most  active  pits,  trading  the  most  active  months. 
Thus  they  are  the  ones  who  may  be  forced  to  choose 
between  handling  customer  business  or  trading  for 
themselves. 

Unless  a  broker  can  be  assured  of  handling  large 
customer  accounts,  his  own  best  interest  may  well  cause 
him  to  trade  for  himself.  This  might  not  impact 
Cargill.  But  it  will  certainly  limit  the  access  of 
smaller  commercial  firms  and  the  public  to  the  most 
accomplished  brokers.  It  will  impose  costs  on  such 
interests  either  in  the  form  of  poorer  fills  or  higher 
brokerage   rates  or  both. 

The  most  common  justification  for  dual  trading 
concerns  its  effect  on  volume.  There  can  be  no  doubt 
that  dual  trading  adds  to  volume  and  liquidity  In 
important  ways.  This  legislation  attempts  to  deal  with 
this  by  eliminating  dual  trading  in  already  heavily 
traded  commodities  options,  but  allowing  it  In  lower 
volume  markets. 


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Yet,  we  ceiMln  concerned  that  this  partial  ban  will 
ham  our  ability  to  spread  our  hedges  £ron  nearby  to 
more  deferred  contract  nonths,  especially  since  we  nay 
not  be  able  to  use  the  same  broker  on  both  sides  of  the 
spread.  This  is  extremely  in^ortant  for  any  comnercial 
hedger. 

If  the  proposals  before  this  subconnittee  becone 
law,  we  expect  to  give  our  independent  (loot  brokers  the 
necessary  written  exemption  to  allow  them  to  dual 
trade.  We  are  reluctant  to  lose  the  direct  advantage  of 
the  better  executions  we  experience  from  the  dual 
trader.  He  believe  others  feel  —  and  would  act  — 
likewise. 

Still,  thi 8  may  not  be  adequate  to  ensure  needed 
liquidity  in  a  contract.  We  would  hope  that  the 
legislative  language  would  be  modified  to  emphasize  that 
the  primary  objective  is  for  exchanges  to  demonstrate  to 
CFTC  that  they  can  audit  and  manage  the  dual-trading 
process.  If  a  7000-contract  (or  some  higher  number) 
level  Is  retained  in  the  bill,  the  legislative  history 
should  Indicate  that  the  CFTC  should  regard  the  contract 
level  merely  as  a  guideline  and  that  it  should  be 
prepared  to  use  discretion  to  permit  dual  trading  where 
added  liquidity  Is  useful  and  where  other  adequate  means 
exist   for  preventing  abuses. 


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AUDIT  TRAILS,  SURVEILLANCE  AND  ENFORCEMENT 

In  creating  the  CfTC  in  1974,  Congress  placed 
primary  responsibility  foe  regulation  of  the  futures 
markets  in  the  hands  of  the  exchanges  and  the  industry, 
subject  to  the  agency's  oversight.  Cargill  supported 
this  approach  in  1974,  and  we  continue  to  support  it 
today. 

He  applaud  this  subcommittee's  attention  to  the  need 
to  detect  trading  practices  abuses,  to  enforcement  of 
the  rules  and  to  uniform  disciplinary  action  against 
those  who  break  the  rules.  Cargill  believes  that  the 
reauthorization  process  can  provide  a  constructive 
opportunity  to  examine  the  performance  of  existing 
regulations  and  the  need  for  refinements  to  those 
requirements. 

One  area  of  major  attention  has  been  the  detection 
of  market  abuses  through  audit  trails.  The  exchanges 
have  made  substantial  progress  in  meeting  audit  trail 
requirements  that  are  already  in  place.  These  audit 
trails  are  in  the  self  interest  of  the  exchanges,  market 
users  and  the  public.  The  CFTC  can  play  a  constructive 
role  in  assuring  that  these  efforts  to  develop  fully 
verifiable  audit  trails  continue  to  progress. 


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Exchanges  and  the  CPTC  also  should  contlnu*  to 
vigorously  enforce  existing  rules.  Poc  example,  the 
only  abuse  that  might  stea  fcon  dual  trading  is  'front 
running'  ahead  of  custoner  orders.  But  the  practice  is 
proscribed  by  Broker  Conduct  rules  350.5  (A  and  B)  at 
the  CBOT.  Other  exchanges  have  sinllar  rules. 

Hacket  expertise  of  cptc  surveillance  personnel  also 
can  be  improved.  We  believe  that  an  understanding  of 
the  'cash'  or  'physicals'  Market  that  underlies  a 
futures  contract  is  essential  for  those  who  police 
futures. 

Exchanges  also  should  be  required  to  ensure  that 
their  business  conduct  and  investigative  connittees  have 
expertise  in  the  appropriate  'cash*  markets  that 
underlie  the  futures  contract. 

CPTC  also  should  require  exchanges  to  set  industry- 
wide standards  for  levels  of  abuse,  disciplinary  actions 
and  punishment.  This  legislation  provides  useful 
monentun  in  that  regard. 


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He  believe  that  these  suggestions,  along  with 
ceirtain  others  contained  in  the  bill,  will  do  iniich  to 
ensure  the  market  integrity  that  is  the  goal  of  all. 
Improvement  in  the  way  that  futures  markets  are  managed 
by  the  exchanges  and  the  CFTC  can  be  achieved,  we 
believe,  without  damage  to  that  other  goal  of 
liquidity.  In  fact,  as  public  confidence  in  market 
Integrity  grows,  liquidity  also  will  grow.  That  is  the 
most   effective  way  to  achieve   both  goals. 

Thank   you. 

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Hw  Honordils  Glvwi  EhgliA 

2206  Itaytaum  House  Office  Building 

Haddngtcn,  DC      20515 

Dear  Representative  fiiglldi: 

It  MOB  a  pleasun  having  the  appactimity  to  aeat  with  you  owr 
brwOcfast  sevezal  uedos  ago.  He  aFprwcintad  your  visit  to  J.P. 
Hacqan,  and  the  insic^its  you  etax«d  with  us. 

Wb  also  ^preciatad  your  opemess  to  further  iiput  en  tlia  jtM^^pw 
oovered  Airiiq  the  breakfast.  Since  your  visit,  we  have  bad  ttw 
chanoe  to  reflect  en  scne  of  Uiese  areas,  nils  letter  will 
ccnv;^  our  thoucfits  on  dual  trading,  broadening  tlis  role  of  state 
securities  admlnistratoTB  for  ocmnodities  enfarooBBnt,  the  CFTC'b 
ptcposals  regarding  hybrid  and  rslatsd  instzunents,  and 
formalizing  the  role  of  tiie  HCxfcing  Graif>. 

1.  Dual  ^tadinq:  Ne  are  pleased  tiy  the  fT^™*^*  Vu  banrs 
intzoduoed  to  deal  with  potential  fzcnt-cunning  and  tlis 
conflicts  of  interest  iiterent  in  tbe  fractice  ctf  dual 
trading.  Your  tcujuuenJaticn  to  prctdbit  dial  trading  in  amy 
contract  itazicett  that  has  a  daily  average  voliae  cX  7,000 
contracts  or  incc«  is  a  thoughtful  ctnprcmise.  It  would 
instantaneously  eliminate  this  potential  for  frcnt  running 
and  conflict  of  interest  pni>lens  in  a^focKinately  90t  of 
futures  trading  volume.  At  ttie  same  time,  it  would  leave  Urn 
dual  trading  practice  in  place  in  analler  voliae  contracts, 
vdiidi  arguably  need  the  additional  lic^iidity.  bsed  en  1988 
statistics,  we  estlinate  that  ^prcDdinately  60  fUtuzes 
contracts  would  not  have  been  affected  ky  Om  Aial  trading 
limitations,  but  those  contracts  rqireaent  only  eliaut  10%  of 
total  futures  voluoes. 

Wb  have  given  sane  thoi^it  to  tiftiether  the  7,000  per  day 
lijd.tatlcn  Ediould  be  raised  ac  loweted.  interestingly,  wb 
note  that  if  the  average  daily  trading  linit  was  raised  to 
10,000  contracts,  cnly  tuo  additional  Dartets  would  gain  Ami 
trading  rights  —  live  hogs  and  ocfper  [again  based  en  1968 
statistics).  U»ler  this  unre  relaieed  liaitation, 
^i^aRadnately  89%  of  total  futures  trading  vdltae  wodld  still 
have  been  pntected  fittm  abuse  under  the  Aial  bading  ban. 


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Cn  tbs  other  hand,  there  are  nine  contract  mrkets  vhldi 
trade  in  Uw  range  of  5,000  to  7,000  per  day.  If  tlie  dual 
trading  ban  ifi  implied  to  ccntracts  trading  in  eoaxsa  of 
5,000  per  day,  almcet  96%  of  all  futures  trading  volume  would 
then  be  captured  under  the  rule. 

Ihe  S,000  to  10,000  range  seems  to  be  the  ri^it  order  of 
magnitude.  Within  that  range,  the  choice  of  a  precise  cutoff 
linit  becxines  a  natter  of  judgment.  He  might  argue  that  the 
limit  first  be  tried  at  a  10,000  daily  volume  level  so  as  to 
test  the  iipact  cn  liquidity,  assess  tlie  effectiveness  of  the 
dual  tradijig  ban,  provide  maxinmn  cfportunity  for  snialler 
volune  oontiacts  to  pin^ier,  and  oicourage  the  develcpnent 
and  growth  of  new  contracts  for  glcbal  carpetitiv^wss. 
Adjustmait  to  the  cutoff  level  could  then  be  oade  with  better 
Empirical  evidence  than  we  have  today. 


CFTC  Requlaticn  of  Hybrid  and  Related  InstrumaTts:  J. P. 
Hsrgan,  individually  and  throi^  the  Hew  Yotic  Clearing  Kuse 
Association  (tr^oi) ,  has  provided  extensive  canoentaiy  to  the 
crrc  cn  its  i^qposed  regulations  for  hybrid  and  related 
instruments.  Ccpies  of  the  sutinissicns  of  J. P.  ttorgan  and 
the  m<X  to  the  CFTC  are  attadied  to  this  letter  fCs-  your 
review.     Sane  of  the  sali^it  points  fras  that  subnissicn  are: 

a.  Hybrid  instrum^its  that  axe  Bocurities  or  are  <g»a»H  by 
banks  (and  are  therefore,  in  both  cases,  governed  ty 
other  federal  anc^'or  state  statutes  and  regulations 
presiding  fOr  substantial  investor  pct^tection}  are  not 
futures  or  opticns  under  the  Connxlity  Qcchange  Act,  and 
the  CFTC  has  no  jurisdiction  over  these  instruments. 

b.  In  light  of  the  substantial  protecticn  provided  to 
investors  in  h^iarid  instruments  which  are  securities  or 
bank  products  and  the  leick  of  ai^  identifiable  prdslems 
(such  as  fraud  or  sales  practice  abuses]  resulting  frcn 
the  sale  and  nariceting  of  these  instruments,  there  is  no 
policy  reason  or  regulatory  justification  for  additional 
regulation  by  the  CFIC. 

c.  Ihe  practical  inpact  of  the  proposed  regulations  will  be 
to  plaoe  U.S.  financial  instituticns  at  a  ocnpetitive 
disadvantage  to  their  foreign  counterparts  lAo,  for  the 
most  part,     are    ncA    restricted    in    offering    to    tlwir 


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amitaaorm  prodoAs  (in  particular,  ik(»Bit  InBtnasnta) 
lAich  ai«  indaMBd  to  neasurss  of  value  oUisr  Uian 
traditicnal  int«re«t  rataa. 

Ilia  tftt^Kjaud  ragulaticrs  will  alao  hann  Qie  «f  fact  of 
natrlAing  pcodixA  Itnwaticn  in  Uie  U.S.  and  iniartlng 
n»  itoilit^  of  U.S.  financial  instituticm  to  tailor  nw 
preAeta  to    aeat    Qia    '**■■*''''<■    of    a    repidly    dianging 


a.  Hie  cnc  rtiould  attoiiA  to  hazncnize  tlie  atatutocy  and 
zagulatocy  eMclusicna  and  exaiptlcnB  prcvidad  ty  tha 
fonazd  ccntxact  aHClusioi,  Ow  ao-called  lk«aaury 
aaanlnciit  and  the  traiSe  cption  esanffticn  ao  as  to  icovide 
a  aafa  hartor  fco-  off^-eNchancfe,  privataly  nagotiated 
ooaDsrcial  transactlaia  batwesn  scfiiisticRted 
institutiorB  and  nnteES  of  the  financial  ■ervioas 
industry. 


Bole    of    State    Securities    Mnlnigtratats    in      tt^adltlae 

the  need  to  aasure  effective  enforemnt  of  CDnedity 
Bochange  Act  pmrisiona,  especially  as  thiy  serve  to  ptoteuL 
email  Indlvit^iO.  participants  in  the  naz^et.  You  noted  the 
difficulty  of  asBurijTg  that  agencies  with  limited  raoouL'oaa 
^  including  the  OTC  as  well  as  federal  and  stats 
pFoeacutoaro  —  are  able  to  pursue  effectively  all  aerlous 
■.■■■mijUng  enfoToaiient  ratters.  You  noted  that  mcxB  ham 
reoonnBnded  a  faroader  role  fCir  the  state  securities 
administratoTB  in  carrying  cut  provisions  of  the  Cedaral 
ocnraodities  laws. 

He  diare  the  ocnomms  you  raised  and  believe  it  is  Ixpcartant 
that  effective  enfoEoaient  be  achieved  if  the  credibiUty  of 
the  ocnmodlties  narfcats  is  to  be  pvesexved.  He  stxcngly  urge 
you,  however,  to  find  a  naans  toVaihanas  enfiacGeaant 
czQBbilities  that  does  not  ragoire  an  ajganded  nfle  far  tlis 
state  securities  administrators.  He  believe  it  would  be  a 
serious  mistake  to  follow  the  imdel  of  U.S.  securities 
regulation  and  establi^  tuo  aepazate  regulatory  Btructuras, 
one  at  tte  Cedaral  level  and  one  at  the  state  level.  Ha  are 
infOmed  fcy  associates  at  J.P.  Horgan  Securities  Inc.  Uiat 
tte  dual  structure  of  securitiea  regulation  fra^ioitly  hawss 
taneoessarily  cuttersaDe  and  diftliative.  It  is  erardaliy 
difficult  to  ooazdinate  the  ti{)prcivala  of  dozens  of  states 
«hen  doing  a  large  securities  offering  or  qualifying  a 
brolsex^^lealer  to  do  business  naticnally.    This  dual  strucbK* 


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also  QUI  ooatdlcate  paxtic^paticn  in  intexnatlcnal  offsarings 
by  U.S.  brcter-dealers,  placing  U.S.  fixns  at  a  ooqpetitiv* 
disadvantage. 

Fbr  these  reasons,  we  believe  it  would  be  a  sorious  nistake 
to  expand  the  role  of  state  securities  adndnistrators  under 
the  federal  cannodities  laws. 


i  House  Working  Groi^  on  Financial  Hazkets  in  late 
1987.  It  made  great  sense  to  bring  together  senior  officials 
froB  the  Tt«asury  DGpartinent,  the  CFIC,  the  SBC,  and  'Qie 
Federal  Reserve.  Mhile  lUEnbers  of  the  group  were  not  alw^s 
unanimous  in  their  reccumEJidations,  the  general  tone  of  the 
gmp's  i«miiiinndaticrs  cocmod  iqprcpriate  and  ccorrect  to  us. 

But  quite  ^art  frctn  the  siibetance  of  the  grot^'s 
reaannendaticns,  ve  strongly  believe  that  the  ocmnodities  and 
securities  regulattu^  should  have  a  regular,  formalized  forum 
for  ooordinating  their  regulabury  efforts,  ihe  all-iipartant 
issues  of  financial  integrity,  trading  halts,  proAxrt 
listing,  jurisdiction,  etc.  need  to  be  reconciled  amctig  the 
various  cannodities  and  securities  exchanges  and,  critically, 
at  the  regulatory  level.  Cbvlously,  we  think  that 
formalizijEf  the  role  of  the  Horking  Groip  is  a  good  first 
step  to  greater  integration  of  securities  and  ocmnodities 
regulation  of  financial  narkets. 

He  hope  these  thouc^its  are  useful  to  you  and  we  look  forward  to 
getting  together  a^dn  in  Hai^iingtcn  or  New  York.  If  you  ca:  your 
staff  would  like  to  disaiss  any  of  these  ideas  further,  please 
feel  free  to  ocntact  roe  at  your  ccnvenienoe. 

Sincerely, 


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Daoc  Mr..  Engllshi 


Through  the  loedla,  I  have  read  ceportB  conalderlng  tl 

of  dual  trading  in  futures  contracts  on  agricultural  coanoditlss . 

I  have  a  concern  that  eliminating  dual  trading  will  take  away  certain 

efflcivnciea  in  place  in  the  market  presently, 

I  strongly  suggest  that  your  House  Subcommittee  look  at  avenues  of 
detection  and  penalties  for  abuses  of  dual  trading  through  the 
exchanges  and  regulatory  agencies  rather  than  elininating  the 
process  of  dual  trading  in  cDmmodity  contracts. 

The  system  has  worked  efficiently  for  nony,  many  years,  and  I  hope 
that  we  can  keep  a  successful  systoD  intact  and  weed  out  the  abuses 
through  detection  on  the  exchange  level. 

Please  give  this  consideration  In  your  CoHalttea  activities. 


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Representative  GLeoD  Bngllsh,  ChairBan 

July  20,  1989 


1  my  objections  to  the  manner  In  which 
the   Chicago   Board   of  Trade    ICBOTl   exercised   Its   supervisory  and 
regulatory  role   In   Issuance  of   an   Baergency  Order   (the   Order]    on 
July   It,    1939   pertaining   to   the  July  soybean   contract, 
1). 

or  points   In  this  testimony  are   as   follows: 
Ho  contract  narket  should  be  allowed  to  iseae 
emergency  orders  without   releasing   to  the  public, 
as   well   as  to   the  Comnodltiea  Futures  Trading 
Commission   (CPTC)    the   specific   reasons  why  th« 
action   Is  bslng   taken.      Congress  and   this   sub- 
cormittee   should  demand   that  the   CFTC   Imraedlately 
release   to  the  public   the   "detailed  explanation"   by 
the  CBOT  of   the   reasons   for   Its  July   11    emergency 
order.     This  explanation  should  be  available  from 


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th*  CPTC  because  the  law  (Section  5a)  requir**  any 
contract  aqency  who  uaea  the  authority  to  Ibbu*  an 
«M«rq«ncy  rule  nuat  give  «  dacatled  •xplanatlon  to 
the  CFTC  upon  exercise  of  that   authority, 

2.      The  cnc   ahould  have  ch«  aaana  and  th« 

will    to   investigate  and  proaecute   Inaider   trading. 
The  CPTC  shoald  closely  eNantne  the  CBOT's  ua«  of 
'polling*    Board  nenbers   for  conflict   prior   to 
Issuance  of  the  Order. 

1.     Because  the  us*  of  th*  eaergency  order  authority 
bypaasaa  nonaal  CPTC  oversight  and  advance  public 
notice,    authority  to   use  energency  orders   shoald   be 
predicated  by  a  close  •valuation  of  tha  suitability 
of  the   renedy.      In   the  caae  of  the  July    II    CBOT 
Order,   It  appears  that  the  CBOT's  rcMedy  did  not 
preserve    fair   and   orderly  trading,    but   rather 
destroyed   it. 

4.      nie  CBOT  board   and  connlttee  nembers  and   eaployees 

have  an  sxcasslvaly  liberal  leqal  and  nonetary 

indemnification   policy.      It  ahould  be  narrowed 

so  that  self-indulgence  does  not  raplaca 

aelf-pol icing. 

1 .       DISGLOSDSB  OP  TBB   SPICIPIC   RBASOHS   FOR  TBS  ORDBt, 
/ 
As   stated    In  the  Order,    the  CBOT  acted   on  the   basis  of   an 

'energency*.      The  Order,   however,   totally  (ailed   to  describe   the 

•nergancy  which  allegedly  threatened  'fair  and  orderly  trading'. 

It  gave   no   facta  and   no   reasons  for   Its  conclusion  that  an 

anergency  existed.      (See   Attachment    1) 


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In  the  days  since  the  CBOT's  action,  runors  have  awlrled 
around  the  country  that  the  Order  was  Issued  at  the  behest  of 
CBOT  members  who  were  In  a  short  position  on  July  soybean 
contracts.  The  principal  name  mentioned  In  the  press  reports  is 
Carcfill  (see,  for  example,  the  Hall  Street  Journal,  July  13, 
I9S9,  p.  C1 ) .  These  traders,  of  course,  stood  to  gain  If  the 
market  collapsed — as  It  did.  There  la  nothing  to  rebut  these 
rumors  at   this   point. 

Therefore,   I  recommend  that  the  Committee  mandate  that  the 
CFTC  require   the   CBOT,   as   well  as  other  contact  markets,    to   Issue 
to  the  public   a   statement   fully  explaining   the   specific   facts 
surrounding   and   reasons   for   any  emergency  order.      Ho 
authorization   to   issue   emergency  Orders   should   be  allowed   without 
requiring   simultaneous   public  disclosure   of   the   reasons   for   the 
order.      The   facts  and   specific   reasons   I   would  like   to   see 
included   in  a  public  explanation  would   be  the   names   of  the 
companies  and  officials   Involved,   the   specific  conduct  that   was 
the  trigger  of  the  or^er,  the  harmful  consequences  that  would 
ensue   unless   the   order   were   issued   and,    finally,    the  manner   in 
which  the   remedy  being   applied   will   prevent  those  harmful 
consequences  and   preserve  confidence   In  the  market. 

Only  this  type  of  public  disclosure  would  be   sufficient  to 
dispel     the  perception,   which  now  appears   to  be  based  on  fact, 
that  the  CBOT  is  a  private  club  run  In  secrecy  for  the  best 
interests  of   Its  powerful   trader  members. 


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Thia  dlscloauce  la  not  a  radical  step.     Sactlon  9a  of  th* 
CooNodity  Futures  Trading  Act  now  raqiitroa  any  contract  narkat  to 
provide  the  CFTC    (but   apparently  not   the   public!    with  a 
'coMplat*  axplanatlon  of  the  a««r9«ncy  Involved.*      (Attach««nt  2) 

Moreover,   at   the  hearing   today,   thta  Copwlttee  ahould  deaand 
tull.releaae  of  the  Section  5«  explanation  that  pr««u«ably  naa 
received   by  the   CPTC  on  July   11,    1989   Baergancy  Order.      Thla 
eKglanatlon  ahould  then  be  wldaly  dlatrlbutad  eo  that  the  CBOT 
action  can  be    fully  evaluated. 
2.       SBLF   DBALmG/IMSIDBR  TRADIHG 

The   CBOT  enerqency  order   was  alleged   to  have  been   leaked 
before  the  clone  of  the  trading  day  on  July    11,    1989 — even  though 
the   order   was  not    released    until  after   closing. 

The    following   two  paragraphs   froai  the  July   17,    1989  Hall 

Street  Journal   are   very  provacativei 

'The  board    Is   also    fending   off   rumors   that   news  of   its 
liquidation  order  might   have   leaked   out   before  the  Close  of 
trading   Tuesday.      Exchange  offlclala   have   said  that   all   th* 
directors   that  voted   on  the  action  were  polled  to  ensure 
officials   have    said    that  all   the 

directors  that  voted   on   the   action  were   palled   to  ensure 
that   none   had   a  position    In  ttM  July  contract. 

Burton  Gutterman,    Chief   executive  Officer   of    Index   Futures 
Group,    Inc.    and  a  CBOT  director,    said  he  was  the  only 
director  to  excuse  htnself  from  the  decision. 

The   questions  that    Innedlately  cone  to  nlnd  are  i 

1)  Bow  long   had   the   CBOT  discussed   this  najor  action 
before   they  took   the  vote?      According   to   the  attached 
chart,    the  narket   fell  precipitously  from   just  before 
July  7   to    the   present. 

2)  What  action  did   the   CBOT  take   to  ensure   that  excluded 
CBOT  directors,    such  as   Hr .    Guttenaan,   did   not  go  to   the 
floor   and    act   on  the   knowledge   that  an  naergeacy  order 
decision   was  pending? 


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3)  Who  checked  up  on  the  vetsclty  of  the  CBOT's 
self-administered   and   self-imposed   "poll"   of  self 

4)  Given  the  need  for  absolate  secrecy,  how  much  time  did 
the  CBOT  directors  have  to  assimilate  the  facts  of  the 
alleged   squeeze   before  acting?      Has   that  time  adequate? 

5)  Which  staff  members  or  other   persona     made   the 
recommendations   for   the   emergency  order   to   the   CBOT  Board 
and   what  control   was   there  over   those   persona'    self-interest 
and   potential   for   self-dealing? 

In  contrast,   to   the  apparent  preternatural   awareness  of 

various   traders   involved   with   the  CBOT,   compare   the   shock  to   the 

farmers   who  were   also   affected  by  the  order.      The   July   17,    1989 

Wall   Street  Journal   stated: 

'It's   [the   CBOT's]    reputation   Is   reelcing   among   small 

'It  makes   us   look   like   crooks,"    said  John  J,    Heber,   a  grain 
commodity  advisor   in   Redfleld,    South   Dakota.      'We'll   lose 
business   over   time.'      The  wild   price   fluctuations  triggered 
by  the   Board's  action   forced  Hr.    Beber   to   ask   about  SO 
farmers   for  more  money  to  back  their   positions.      Many  of 
them  had   never   used   futures  contracts  before   he  opened   shop 
two   years   ago,   and   they  are  angry  now  that   they  tried   It.* 

It   is  crucial   that   this   Committee  ensure  that  the   CPTC  prevents 
and   punished   "insider   trading"   and  also  prevents  appearance  of 
potential   for   Insider   trading.      The   CBOT's   "poll"   of   its 
directors  reeks  of  insider  trading  potential. 

3)   Was  the   'cure*   worse   than   the  disease? 

The   "squeeze"   that  the  newspapers  have  described  at  the 
basis   of  the   CBOT's  order.    Involved   around   one  percent  of  annual 
U.S.   production  of   soybeans   (23  million  bushels  of  a   2  billion 
bushel  crop. ) 

Bigh  prices,   from   a   farmer's  perspective,   are  a  positive, 
not  a   negative.      It  appears  that  the   CBOT  does  not   show  this 


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SoorMi     Nail  8tr««t  Journal   (7-1I-B9) 

The  chart  printed  abov*  ahowa  a  Juna   through  aarly  July 
qradual    riae   In  prlcea.      It  appaara   that  the  narket  prior  to  tb* 
CBOT  action  waa  a  auch  nor*  'orderly*  warttat  than  cha  narlMt 
after    the   CBOT  order. 

The   reiaady  choaen  by  tha  CBOT  «aa  draatlc,  abrupt  aalaa  of 
all  poaltlona  in  exceBa  of  I   nlllion  buahela,   whether   for  hedging 
or  apeculative  purposear   In  a  very  ahort  tineframe,     Thla 
'renedy'    haa  had   an    unbelievably  dlaruptive  effect  on  the  July 
contract,  other   soybean  contracta  and  the  cash  price  of  aoybeana 
and   other  cropa,      Corporationa  and    individuala  and  doaeatlc  and 
foreign  buyers  have  been  affected.      The  credibility  of  the  CBOT 
and  other  contract  narketa  haa  also  been  hurtt   In  the  aaae  Manner 
as  an  enbargo. 


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It   is   hard  to   imagine   what  greater  chaas  could   have  been 
caused  by  the   undescribed   'emergency'   that   the  CBOT  sought   to 

Congress   should   require  that  contract  markets'    authority  to 
use  emergency  orders   under    17  CPR   1.41    If)    should   Involve  only 
measured    remedies  carefully  tailored   to  the  alleged   harm  and 
should  disallow  remedies   that  cause  greater   harm  to  the   public 
than   the  harm   sought   to   be  prevented.      The  broad   'menu'   of 
remedies  allowed  by  Section  5A  of  the  Act  and   17  CFR  1.41(3)    (f> 
should   be  preceeded   by  better  defined  guidelines  and 
restrictions.      Also,   fines  to  disgorge   ill-gained   profits  by 
specific   firms  should  be  explored   in   lieu  of   remedies  that  punish 
the  innocent  as  well. 

4)    Indemnification  of  CBOT  directore,   officers,   eonunlttee 
members  and   employees. 

The   honesty  of   a   largely  self-policing   board   such  as  the 
CBOT  rests,    in  part,   on   Individual  members'    evaluation  of   risk  to 
be   incurred   by  an   improper  action  versus  a  potential   profit  to  be 

CBOT  Rule   182.00  provides   free   legal   counsel   and  complete 
indemnification   for   all  directors,   officers,   committee  members 
and  employees.      Only  where  a  court   in  a   judgment  or  a  majority  of 
the   CBOT  Board   or   a  lawyer   (if   the  majority  of  the  CBOT  Board   is 
disqualified)    in  a   settlement   finds   that  the  director   or  other 
person  was  derelict  or  guilty  of  gross   negligence  or  willful 
misconduct  would  that   soon  be  excluded   from  ^is  policy, 
{Altachment   3) 


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As  thla  Coaaitt**  aay  know,   aoybean   CaraarB  ara 
contaaplating  laqal  action  baaad  on  injurlaa  caau«d  to  tha«  by 
CBOT's  ordar.      It    la  obvloiia  that  even  CBOT  Bcabara  who  aay  have 
accad  willfully  or   In  a  groaaly  negllgant  aannar  will   have 
unliBlted    free    legal   counael  during   the   lawault.      Moreover.    If 
CBOT  »aabera  ara  found  to  be  negligent  but  not  groaaly  na9ll9ent 
they  will   be   fully  coapenaated  by  the  CBOT. 

Congreaa  ahould  narrow  tha  virtual   invitation  to  abus*  that 
CBOT  Rule    182    repteoenta.      Mhlle   board  Benbera  need  protection 
fro*  frivoloua  lawaulta,   the  public  alao  needa  better  protection 
froa  bad  actors   in  contract  aarkets. 

Thank  you    for    the  opportunity  to  present  theae  views. 


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or  THi  tnxKD  or  tbadi  or  the  city  or  Ciricjtao 

BEUtTIHd  tU  THB  JULV  1(S>  SOyBEAN  rUTUSEI 
CCJHTRACT;  kOOPTED  rURflUAMT  TO  XSaOCIkTIOll  RULE 
lao.Oa  AXD  REGULKIIOH  laO.Cl,  COKKODITV  IXCKMiat 
XCT  SECTION  5>(1Z>>  UtD  CFTC  REdUUTIOM  l.<l|f|. 

RMOLVED.  that  th*  Baard  o(  Dlraiitors  of  tha  Board  of 
Trad*  of  the  city  &f  Chicago  hireby  dctaralntta  chat  an  aaorgancy 
■Klats  uith  raqarJ  to  tha  July  19S9  aaybaan  futur«a  contract  tradad 
on  tha  Exchsngo  that  requires  Imrediata  action  and  threotans  or  My 
thrAatan  fair  and  orderly  tradliig  in,  tha  liquidation  of,  and 
dallvery  purtuAnt  to,  tha  July  isa^  acybc^n  fututas  contract,  and 
haraby  adopt*  tha  follovlng  itaasuraa  to  daal  with  thia  aaargancy: 

(1)   Effactiva  as  o(  tha  oytninq   of  tha  Bnrk«t  on  July  13, 

-  '-  /,   althat  alona  or  In 

r  person  or  er.tity,  who  owns  or 
jross  short  posit.lon  tor  any 
gss  of  thrae  Billion  bushals  In 
I  contract  tradad  en  tha 
sdJJ  position  and  aubsoiuant 
t  20\  par  trtidlng  day  lubjact  to  th» 
fullnulng  absoliita  Units. 

Ko  pvrson  or  entity,  aithar  alonn  or  in  conjLnctlon  with 
any  othar  parson  or  antlty,  shall  own  or  control  a  gross 
long  or  gror.c  short  position  for  any  purposa  whatsoawae 
In  tho  July  1989  soybaan  futuvco  contract  tradad  on  tha 
Inohanga  in  axcess  of  tnraa  vllllon  bushala  as  of  tha 
cloi#  of  trading  on  Tu*iday,  July  IB,  19S9. 

Ho  parson  or  antity.  aithar  alona  or  In  conjunction  with 
any  othar  parson  or  antlty,  shall  own  or  control  a  qress 
lonj  or  grosn  short  position  for  any  purposa  whatsoavar 
In  tha  July  19<9  soybean  futuras  contract  tradad  on  tha 
Exchange  In  Excans  of  ona  nllllon  bushela  as  of  tha 
anpiratloii  of  trading  on  Thuradsy,  July  10,  J989. 

)  all  positions,  whathar 

Falluru  by  any  MBbur  or  vrnbar  firm  to  eoicply  with  this 
Ei.eru.ncy  B«f)l..tlon,  or  failure  to  aaalst  in  coBpllaoc* 
with  this  emergency  resolution  Including  as  dlractad  by 
tha  Executlvo  Conmlttea  pursuant  to  paragraph  {»)  balow, 
shall  bo  daamad  to  ba  an  offanae  agalnat  tha  AsaocUtlon 
and  an  act  datrUantsl  to  tha  Intsrast  and  walfara  of  tho 
ftssociatlon. 


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liquidation  on  tha  txchanqa  [by  brokara  aalactad  by  tha 
£oMitttaa  In  ita  dlac(ati«n|  of  tha  July  19a>  aoybaan 
futuras  poaltton  ot  any  paraon  or  antlty  not  In 
coapllanca  with  para9r»pti  (1}  abova,  to  tha  antanC  Of 
igch  noncowpllanca,   Tha  dlractlon  of  tha  bacutiva 
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daa«ad  tor  all  purpoaaa,  tncludlnq  undar  tha  rulaa  and 
radulationa  of  th«  kaaoclatlon.  to  b*  tha  act  »f  tha 
far»»n  mw   >nt(Cr  whsaa  pkattten  t>  b>ii>v  llt|uldatad. 

Hethlnq  In  thla  EBaT9c-n<:y  ReaoluC  on  ahall  ba  daaMd  In 
any  way  to  eracluda  tha  Aiaociai  on  troa  Impoalna 
■■iietluiiB  un  4rt^  AtDDar  or  naabal^  Ilrp  Cor  any  violation 
of  A>a(M:latlon  ruli*  at   trequlatlona,  or  thla  raaolutton. 
In  eonnaetlon  with  July  if8»  aoybaan  (gturaa. 

Thla  Enarqancy  Kacolutlon  la  axpraaaly  adoptad  purauant 
to  kaaoclation  Pula  no. 00  and  Kaqulatlon  110. 01,  faction 
5(a}<l>}  of  tha  Couodicy  Exehanqa  Act,  and  CPrC 
■tabulation  1.41(f). 

Nothing  haraln  ahall  ba  daanad  to  pracluda  tha  tuainaaa 
Conduct  COBBlttce  or  tha  Board  of  Dlractora  tron  taking 
auch  furthav  kct  on,  purauant  to  tha  authorltlaa 
rafaiancad  r  paragraph  (9)  abovo  or  othar«laa,  as  say  b« 
naeaaaaiy  in  the  Coaalttca'a  or  th*  »oard'a  ludqaant  to 
(uithar  pruvlda  for  orderly  trading  and  liquidation  ot 
July  14>9  aoybaan  CuCures  and  dalivory  purauant  tharato. 


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The  Honorable  Glenn  English  July  31,  19B9 

Subcommittee  on  Conservation,  Credit 
and  Rural  Development 

House  Committee  on  Agriculture 
1301  Longworth  House  Office  Bldg. 
Washington,  DC  20515 


Dear  Mr.  English: 


Heauthoclj 

As  a  large  coffee  and  cocoa  trading  company  which 
uses  the  Coffee,  Sugar  i   Cocoa  Exchange  every  day,  we 
strongly  feel  that  the  CFTC  Reauthorization  Bill  will  prove 
harmful  to  the  CSCE  and  the  other  commodity  exchanges  In  the 
United  States  if  passed.   The  Bill  would  induce  a  loss  of 
liquidity  which  is  an  essential  factor  to  the  proper 
functioning  of  any  exchange.   This,  In  turn,  would  diminish 
Che  volume  thus  reducing  the  Market's  viability  as  a  hedging 

Moreover,  the  Bill  presents  provisions  that  are 
redundant  to  the  existing  regulatory  powers  of  the  CFTC,  and 
asks  for  a  reauthorization  of  appropriations  every  two  years, 
which  is  tou  fiequent  to  allow  the  Cftc  to  conduct  Its 
regulatory  mission  effectively  and  impartially. 

We  hope  you  will  agree  with  ua  that  the  CFTC 
Reauthorization  Bill  will  do  more  harm  than  good  to  the  US 
futures  Industry.   Meanwhile,  we  are  available  for  any 
questions  you  may  have. 


Sincerely  your: 


„Coogle 


July  26,  1989 

Chairaan 

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Since  I  did  not  receive  sufficient  notice  to  properlr  pr*psre 
testlBony  for  the  CFTC  reauthorltatlon  hearingB,  I 
respectfully  request  that  you  Include  the  following  in  the 
record  relative  to  aald  hearinga: 

Ht .    Chairaan  and  BeBbera  of  your  coBBlCteei 

More  than  50  years  ago  Congreasional  action  provided 

selling  only  on  an  "up-tick"  of  the  Bsrket  as  a  means  of 

deaoralizing  crashes  In  the  aarket  due  to  nassive  speculative 


Proof  that  the  "up-tick"  rule  ia  alive  and  well  was  evident 
m  the  May  26,  19S9  Wall  St.  Journal,  which  reported  that 
SaloBon  Brothera,  Inc..  was  censured  by  the  SEC  Hay  25.  1989 
after  being  accused  of  violating  the  "short  sale"  provisions 
of  federal  securities  law  in  its  trading  during  Black  Honda;, 
Oct.  19,  1987. 

WSJ  further  stated:  "Federal  securities  lavs  have  long  banned 
short  sales  on  a  °doHntick',  or  a  at  a  price  below  Che  last 
ealgned  to  keep  traders 
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I  cattle  prices  in  early  1986  following 
of  the  Dairy  Termination  Program  In  which  cattia 

es  dropped  the  limit  on  11  out  of  20  trading 

ler  with  the  recent  fiasco  in  soybean  prices,  are 

lers  that  the  time  is  way  overdue  for  grain  and 

oducera  to  be  provided  with  siBilar  protection 
inlimlted  number  of  speculators  who  can,  under 


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and  which  they  sell  at  prices  the  actual  owner  never  agreed 
to  take)   A  ridiculous  situation,  to  put  it  mildly! 

I  believe  Congress  has  the  authority  to  place  much-needed 
Units  on  speculators  in  the  comsodities  markets  since  the 
first  paragraph  of  the  Comaodity  Exchange  Act  of  1936,  Sec. 

and  remove  obstructions  and  burdens  upon  interstate 
commerce  in  grains  and  other  commodities  by  regulating 
transactions  therein  on  commodity  futures  exchanges,  to  limit 
or  abolish  short  selling,  to  curb  manipulation,  and  for  other 
purposes."   (This  law  was  sustained  in  legislative  intent  by 
the  Futures  Trading  Act  of  I97S) 

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a  measure  of  control  over  those  forms  of  speculative  activity 

I  respectfully  request  that  you  and  your  Committee  make  a 
diligent  effort  to  provide  grain  and  livestock  producers  with 
the  protection  they  need  and  deserve  In  the  commodity  pricing 
system  by  recommending  either  strict  limits  or  abolishment  of 

reauthorization  of  the  CFTC  (the  CFTC  should  be  replaced  by 
the  SEC),  or  more  accountable  futures  trading  practices  will 
do  nothing  in  terms  of  protecting  grain  and  livestock 
producers  against  grossly  unfair  speculative  selling. 

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equest  that  you  place  that  editorial  In  its  entirety,  along 
'ith  my  testimony,  in  the  record. 


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like  very  much  to  participate  if  given  anple  notice.  I  hope 
they  will  be  out  here  where  other  producers  can  participate. 


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