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CONTROL  OF  EXPLOSIVES 

Administration  and  Execution  of^the  L|>vf  ^s^rtaining  to 

the  Control  of  Explosives 


HEARINGS 

BEFORE  THE 

SUBCOMMITTEE  TO  INVESTIGATE  THE 

ADMINISTBATION  OF  THE  INTEENAL  SECURITY 

ACT  AND  OTHER  INTERNAL  SECURITY  LAWS 

OF  THE 

COMMITTEE  ON  THE  JUDICIARY 
UNITED  STATES  SENATE 

NINETY-FOURTH  CONGRESS 

SECOND  SESSION 


PART  4 
INSTITUTE  OF  MAKERS  OF  EXPLOSIVES 


JUNE  22,  1976 


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JUNE  22,  1976 


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COMMITTEE  ON  THE  JUDICIARY 

JAMES  O.  EASTLAND,  Mississippi,  Chairman 

JOHN  L.  McCLELLAN,  Arkansas  ROMAN  L.  HRUSKA,  Nebraska 

PHILIP  A.  HART,  Michigan  HIRAM  L.  FONG,  Hawaii 

EDWARD  M.  KENNEDY,  Massachusetts  HUGH  SCOTT,  Pennyslvania 

BIRCH  BAYH,  Indiana  STROM  THURMOND,  South  Carolina 

QUENTIN  N.  BURDICK,  North  Dakota  CHARLES  McC.  MATHIAS,  Jr.,  Maryland 

ROBERT  C.  B  YRD,  West  Virginia  WILLIAM  L.  SCOTT,  Viiginia 
JOHN  V.  TUNNE  Y,  California 
JAMES  ABOUREZK,  South  Dakota 

Subcommittee  To  Investigate  the  Administration  of  the  Internal 
Security  Act  and  Other  Internal  Security  Laws 

JAMES  O.  EASTLAND,  Mississippi,  Chairman 

JOHN  L.  McCLELLAN,  Arkansas  STROM  THURMOND,  South  Carolina 

WILLIAM  L.  SCOTT,  Virginia 

Richard  L.  Schultz,  Chief  Counsel 

Caroline  M.  Courbois,  Assistant  to  the  Chief  Counsel 

Alfoxso  L.  Tarabochia,  Chief  Investigator 

Robert  J.  Short,  Senior  Investigator 

Mary  E.  Dooley,  Research  Director 

David  Martin,  Senior  Analyst 

Resolution 

Besolved,  hj  the  Internal  Security  Subcommittee  of  the  Senate  Com- 
mittee on  the  Judiciary,  That  the  testimony  of  Messrs.  Brooke  J. 
Calder,  Jr.,  Frank  H.  Gordon  and  Harry  L.  Hampton,  of  the  Institute 
of  Makers  of  Explosives,  taken  in  executive  session  on  June  22,  1976, 
be  printed  and  made  public. 

James  O.  Eastland, 

Chaiiman. 

Approved  November  5,  1976. 

(H) 


CONTROL  OF  EXPLOSIVES 

Administration  and  Execution  of  the  Laws  Pertaining  to  the 

Control  of  Explosives 


TUESDAY,   JUNE   22,    1976 

U.S.  Senate, 
Subcommittee  to  Investigate  the 
Administration  of  the  Internal  Security  Act 

AND  Other  Internal  Security  Laavs 

OF  the  Committee  on  the  Judiciary, 

Washington,  D.C. 

The  subcommittee  met,  pm'siiant  to  notice,  at  10:50  o'clock  a.m., 
in  room  324,  Russell  Senate  Office  Building,  Senator  Strom  Thurmond 
presiding. 

Also  present:  Richard  L.  Schultz,  chief  counsel;  Robert  J.  Short, 
senior  investigator;  David  Martin,  senior  analj^st. 

Senator  Thurmond.  The  subcommittee  will  come  to  order. 

The  Internal  Security  Subcommittee  meets  this  morning  for  the 
purpose  of  receiving  testimony  relating  to  our  continuing  inquiry 
concerning  the  control  of  explosives. 

We  are  pleased  to  welcome  before  the  subcommittee  this  morning 
Mr.  Brooke  J.  Calder,  Jr.,  vice  president  of  manufacturing  of  the 
Austin  Powder  Co.,  Cleveland,  Ohio.  It  is  my  understanding  that 
Mr.  Calder  is  appearing  here  today  as  a  spokesman  for  the  Institute 
of  Makers  of  Explosives  and  is  accompanied  by  the  association's 
general  counsel,  Air.  Frank  H.  Gordon  and  Mr.  Harry  L.  Hampton, 
who  is  executive  director  of  the  Institute  of  Makers  of  Explosives. 

We  are  glad  to  have  all  you  gentlemen  here.  We  welcome  you  to 
the  Internal  Securit}^  Subcommittee  and  are  looking  forward  to  your 
testimony.  Prior  to  presenting  your  prepared  remarks  will  you  please 
rise  and  be  sworn? 

Will  you  raise  your  right  hand,  please. 

Do  you  solemnly  swear  that  the  evidence  you  are  about  to  give 
shall  be  the  truth,  the  whole  truth  and  nothing  but  the  truth,  so 
help  you  God? 

The  Witnesses.  We  do. 

Senator  Thurmond.  Mr.  Calder,  we  will  recognize  you  first. 
Would  you  like  to  offer  your  prepared  statement  for  the  record,  and 
present  a  summary  at  this  time? 

Mr.  Calder.  Yes,  I  would. 

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STATEMENT  OE  BROOKE  J.  CALDER,  JR. 

Senator  Thurmond  and  members  of  the  Senate  Internal  Security 
Subcommittee : 

My  name  is  Brooke  J.  Calder,  Jr.  I  am  vice  president  of  manufac- 
turing of  Austin  Powder  Co.,  Cleveland,  Ohio.  I  am  appearing  here 
today  as  spokesman  for  the  Institute  of  Makers  of  Explosives,  New 
York,  N.Y.,  as  its  president.  Accompanying  me  are  Frank  H.  Gordon, 
general  counsel  to  the  Institute  and  Harry  L.  Hampton,  Jr.,  its  execu- 
tive director. 

The  Institute  of  Makers  of  Explosives  is  a  trade  association  whose 
member  companies  manufacture  approximately  85%  of  the  commercial 
explosives  and  blasting  agents  used  annuall}''  in  the  United  States. 
They  also  produce  and  distribute  most  of  the  blasting  supplies  and 
accessories  such  as  blasting  caps,  safety  fuse,  detonating  cord,  blasting 
machmes  and  related  tools.  IME  has  genuine  concern  for,  and  makes 
continuing  efforts  towards,  the  promotion  of  safety  in  the  manufac- 
ture, transportation,  storage,  and  use  of  commercial  explosives  in 
this  country. 

We  appear  before  j^ou  today  because,  in  addition  to  our  interest  in 
safety,  we  share  the  concern  you  have  expressed  for  illegal  and  ter- 
roristic use  of  explosives.  We  welcome  your  invitation  to  present  our 
views  on  the  need  for  new  or  amended  Federal  legislation  to  augment 
measures  to  prevent  the  misapplication  of  our  products  for  subversive 
purposes. 

At  the  outset,  we  wish  to  commend  the  Bureau  of  Alcohol,  Tobacco 
and  Firearms  of  the  Department  of  the  Treasury  for  its  able  adminis- 
tration of  the  existing  Federal  statute  governing  criminal  activity 
using  explosives — chapter  40  of  title  18  of  the  United  States  Code, 
enacted  as  part  of  the  Crime  Control  Act  of  1970.  IME  has  been 
privileged  to  offer  technical  and  legal  assistance  to  the  Bureau  in 
carrying  out  its  critical  regulatory  responsibilities  under  title  18. 
We 'believe  that  the  statute  provides  comprehensive  licensing  pro- 
cedures that  are  essential  to  avoid  improper  use  of  explosives,  and  that 
BATF's  enforcement  of  these  procedures  has  been  effective.  There 
are,  however,  some  amendments  to  the  legislation  which  we  propose 
for  the  subcommittee's  consideration  at  this  time  to  further  uniform 
control  over  the  misuse  of  explosives. 

In  our  view,  subversives  and  terrorists  have  tliree  sources  for 
explosive  materials:  (1)  purchase  under  false  identity  in  legitimate 
channels,  (2)  theft  or  embezzlement,  and  (3)  homemade  manufacture. 
IME's  basic  thesis  is  that  there  should  be  adequate  and  uniform  safety 
and  security  controls  over  explosive  materials  from  the  powder  mill 
to  the  bore  hole  as  the  best  way  to  counter  supply  from  such  sources. 
The  Institute  is  continually  engaged  in  communication  with  all  the 
Federal  agencies  having  jurisdiction  over  explosives — BATE,  the 
Department  of  Transportation,  the  Occupational  Safety  and  Health 
Administration,  the  Mining  Enforcement  and  Safety  Administration, 
and  the  Environmental  Protection  Agency — to  bring  about,  in  the 
interest  of  safety,  uniform  provisions  in  Federal  regulations  governing 
these  dangerous  but  essential  materials.  We  also  encourage  all  of  the 
States  to  adopt  uniform  regulations  and  have  made  a  model  law  and 
regulations  available.  There  still  remain  several  areas  of  conflict  among 


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the  explosives  regulations  of  the  Federal  agencies  which  IME  hopes 
will  be  resolved  by  the  Congress  if  they  cannot  be  resolved  among  the 
agencies.  However,  we  will  address  today  those  problems  of  misuse 
of  explosives  of  particular  concern  to  j^our  committee  which  we  believe 
can  be  alleviated  by  uniform  statutory  provisions. 

Fnst,  as  to  purchase  in  legitimate  channels,  IME  urges  that  the 
"contiguous  State"  exemption  in  section  842(a)(3)  of  title  18  be 
repealed.  This  provision  exempts  from  the  requirement  of  a  license 
or  permit  a  person  who  lawfully  purchases  explosives  materials  from 
a  Hcensee  in  a  State  contiguous  to  the  State  in  which  he  resides,  and 
permits  such  a  person  to  sliip  or  receive  such  explosive  materials  to  or 
within  the  State  in  which  he  resides  if  this  shipment  or  receipt  is 
permitted  by  the  law  of  the  State  in  wliich  he  resides.  This  exemption 
allows  the  acquisition  of  explosives  by  persons  who  are  not  required 
to  have  a  license  or  permit,  and  has  therefore  fostered  instances  where 
persons  not  experienced  in,  or  intent  upon  the  improper  use  of  ex- 
plosives, including  terrorists  and  those  otherwise  engaging  in  illegal 
activities,  to  have  ready  access  to  these  hazardous  articles.  A  prime 
example  of  this  was  the  accidental  destruction  several  years  ago  of  a 
house  in  Greenwich  Village  in  New  York  City  by  a  terrorist  group 
apparently  operating  a  bomb  factory.  Federal  authorities  traced  an 
undetonated  stick  of  dynamite  found  in  the  remains  to  an  explosives 
dealer  in  Keene,  N.H.,  who  had  sold  a  lot  of  explosives  to  a  purchaser 
posing  as  an  employee  of  an  unlicensed  resident  of  Brattleboro,  Vt., 
a  State  contiguous  to  New  Hampshire  wliich  would  allow  receipt  of 
explosives  by  nonlicensees. 

IjME  believes  that  this  and  other  similar  occurrences  can  be  avoided 
by  requiring  all  purchasers  of  explosive  materials  moving  in  commerce 
to  have  a  license  or  permit,  Federal  or  State.  The  fee  does  not  have  to 
be  excessive — $5  to  $15  is  a  suggested  range.  What  is  important  is 
that  the  distributor  of  explosives  be  mformed  by  means  of  display  of 
the  license  or  permit  that  the  materials  are  most  likely  to  be  used  by 
one  who  knows  their  hazards  and  who  has  previously  satisfied  BATF, 
or  other  law  enforcement  ofiicials,  that  they  will  be  handled  safely 
and  for  a  legitimate  purpose.  To  exempt  such  a  large  class  of  persons 
dealing  with  explosives  from  license  or  permit  requirements  affords 
terrorists  a  ready  source.  Mandating  a  license  or  permit  will  not  com- 
pletely insure  against  terrorism  with  explosives,  but  it  will  close  a 
loophole  of  legitimate  acquisition  for  illegitimate  purposes  that  has 
made  it  all  too  likely  that  such  activity  can  occur. 

In  this  connection,  IME  proposes  that  chapter  40  of  title  18  also 
be  amended  to  provide  a  uniform  permit  number  system  throughout 
the  50  States,  This  -will  afford  distributors  of  explosives  an  efficient 
method  of  recording  explosive  purchases,  and  identifjdng  purchasers, 
and  will  further  afford  BATF  an  efficient  method  of  recordkeeping 
for  investigations.  The  advantages  of  such  a  uniform  numbering  system 
to  BATF's  enforcement  program  under  title  18  are  manifest.  It  might 
also  encourage  uniform  State  action. 

With  regard  to  theft,  we  would  like  to  address  the  question  of 
storage.  From  our  experience,  the  storage  provisions  of  title  18  and 
BATF's  regulations  are  adequare  from  a  security  standpoint.  More- 
over, improvement  in  security  technique  is  a  subject  more  for  regula- 
tions than  for  statute.  However,  IME  recommends  a  return  to  the 
5-pound  restriction  on  the  amount  of  black  powder  permitted  to  be 


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stored  in  an  enclosure  whicli  is  not  a  magazine.  BATF  recently  in- 
creased the  permissible  storage  amount  from  5  to  50  pounds,  in  accord 
\vith  Public  Law  93-639,  18  United  States  Code  845(A)(5).  Black 
powder  is  one  of  the  oldest  explosives  in  this  country,  and  lends  itself 
to  terrorist  use  since  its  container  can  be  disposed  of  when  a  bomb  is 
made.  Excessive  amounts  of  black  powder  not  stored  in  m^agazines 
pose  clear  security  and  safety  hazards.  Here  is  an  unlocked  source! 
As  a  matter  of  safety  and  security,  BATF  should  be  authorized  to 
return  to  the  5-pound  limitation.  Congress  should  amend  title  18  so 
to  provide.  This  would  not  impose  an  undue  hardship  on  the  muzzle- 
loader  enthusiasts. 

As  to  embezzlement,  such  as  pilfering  by  an  employee  at  a  mine 
or  construction  site,  there  is  little  if  anything  to  be  accomplished  by 
legislation  that  we  know  of.  Likemse,  homemaking  of  explosives  is 
not  readily  subject  to  control.  On  the  other  hand,  the  techniques  of 
self-manufacture  of  explosives  are  not  widely  known,  and  the  ma- 
terials not  readily  available. 

Finally,  we  understand  that  you  have  been  interested  in  the  matter 
of  tracing  materials  in  packaged  explosives,  which  could  be  detected 
after  detonation,  as  well  as  the  possibility  of  introducing  some  ingre- 
dient which  would  make  it  possible  to  identify  the  presence  of  un- 
detonated  explosive  materials  in  a  package  or  luggage.  These  are 
strictly  law  enforcement  activities,  not  related  to  safety  in  the  regular 
legitimate  commerce  in  commercial  explosives.  Accordingly,  the  cost 
should  not  be  imposed  upon  the  law-abiding  citizens  dealing  in  or 
using  explosives  properly,  so  as  to  protect  the  public  at  large  against 
law  violators  who  would  use  explosives  improperly. 

Therefore,  we  feel  that  the  cost  of  any  "tagging  program"  should 
be  borne  by  Government.  Industry  will  cooperate  in  introducing  the 
taggants  to  its  products,  and  keeping  necessary  records,  but  we 
strongly  urge  that  the  taggants  should  be  paid  for  by  BATF,  and 
their  issue  controlled  by  BATF,  as  the  only  way  to  make  the  program 
effective.  We  assume  that  the  modest  added  expense  of  the  manu- 
facturing and  recordkeeping  processes  would  be  a  deductible  expense. 

Thank  you  for  giving  the  explosives  industry  this  opportunity  to 
present  its  views  on  the  desirabihty  of  amended  legislation  to  control 
abusers  of  commercial  explosives  in  the  United  States. 

TESTIMONY  01  BROOKE  J.  CALDEE,  JR.,  INSTITUTE  OE  MAKERS 

OF  EXPLOSIVES,  NEW  YORK 

Mr.  Calder.  I  think  the  Institute's  position  has  been  constant 
for  approximately  8  to  10  years,  that  we  believe  the  best  control 
would  be  a  nationwide  licensing  program  where  the  purchaser  of 
explosives  would  be  required  to  show  to  the  seller  identification, 
cleared  by  some  enforcement  agency,  to  allow  the  seller  to  have 
confidence  that  the  man  is  first  bona  fide  to  buy,  and  second,  is  who 
he  is  said  to  be. 

We  in  industry  have  a  very  difficult  time  trying  to  ascertain  the 
validity  of  people  who  are  not  in  the  large  consuming  element  of  the 
industry.  For  example,  operators  of  coal  companies,  construction 
companies,  they  are  easily  identified  because  you  deliver  to  their 
site;  but  a  person  who  wants  to  buy  a  small  quantity,  it  is  very 


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difficult  to  identify  properly  that  that  man  indeed  is  who  he  repre- 
sents that  he  is.  So,  one  of  the  things  we  feel  would  be  the  best  control 
would  be  a  nationwide  licensing  program  under  an  enforcement 
agency. 

Senator  Thurmond.  Who  do  you  think  ought  to  issue  the  license? 
Would  it  be  a  new  agency,  or  an  existing  agency? 

Mr.  Calder.  I  tliink  the  BATF  would  be  the  most  qualified. 
They  now  take  care  of  the  licensing  for  the  manufacturing,  distribu- 
tion and  the  storage  of  explosives.  They  would  have  the  bona  fide 
people  as  starting  points;  they  would  know  who  the  people  are  who 
are  selling,  and  many  of  the  people  who  are  receiving. 

Senator  Thurmond.  You  might  spell  out  the  initials  you  used. 

Mr.  Calder.  The  Bureau  of  Alcohol,  Tobacco  and  Firearms. 

Mr.  ScHULTZ.  If  I  may  at  this  point,  Mr.  Chairman;  in  effect, 
what  this  licensing  would  do  would  be  to  shift  the  burden  from  the 
seller,  or  give  him  some  method  by  which  he  can  at  least  make  a 
minimum  assessment  as  to  who  the  purchaser  is.  He  will  have  a 
number,  a  license,  or  permit  number  that  he  can  record  when  he 
sells  explosives. 

Mr.  Calder.  That  is  correct. 

Mr.  ScHULTz.  The  statute  now  requires,  if  the  seller  has  "reason 
to  beheve"  that  the  explosives  will  be  used  for  some  unla\vful  purpose, 
he  is  not  to  sell  them.  The  seller  has  the  burden  of  making  that 
determination,  but  no  ability  to  make  it;  there  is  nothing  required 
for  the  purchaser  to  present  to  the  seller  so  that  he  can  make  the 
"reasonable  belief"  determination. 

Senator  Thurmond.  Now,  do  you  think  it  would  be  better  to 
place  the  burden  on  the  BATF  by  issuing  a  hcense,  rather  than  to 
place  the  responsibility  on  yourself,  as  I  understand  you? 

Mr.  Calder.  I  think  they  have  the  capacity,  through  relation- 
ships with  other  agencies,  to  determine  whether  the  man  should  be 
able  to  purchase  explosives. 

Senator  Thurmond.  If  a  man  sold  explosives,  then,  and  a  fellow 
came  up  with  a  license  to  buy,  then  he  would  know  it's  all  right  to 
sell  it;  if  he  didn't  have  it,  he  wouldn't  sell  it. 

Mr.  Calder.  That  is  right. 

Senator  Thurmond.  So,  that  puts  the  burden  on  the  seller  not  to 
sell  to  anybody  who  does  not  have  a  license  to  purchase. 

Mr.  Calder.  That  is  correct. 

Mr.  Gordon.  I  want  to  suggest  a  simple  illustration  of  this  point, 
Senator.  If  the  purchaser  has  a  criminal  record  and  the  seller  is  not 
supposed  to  sell  to  somebody  with  a  criminal  record,  he  has  no  ability 
to  determine  whether  that  would-be  purchaser  has  a  criminal  record. 

But  if  the  purchaser  has  to  get  a  license  and  somebody  checks  on 
whether  he  has  a  criminal  record,  then  they  would  know,  if  he  has  a 
license,  that  he  is  cleared  from  that  standpoint.  I  just  give  that  as  a 
simple  little  illustration. 

Senator  Thurmond.  That  would  protect  the  seller,  too. 

Mr.  Schultz.  That,  of  course,  brings  up  the  related  issue  that 
merely  a  fee  for  a  license  would  not  be  enough,  but  there  would  have  to 
be  a  collateral  investigation  in  connection  with  the  applicant,  to  deter- 
mine that  he  is  a  qualified  individual  to  handle  explosives. 

Senator  Thurmond.  Well,  under  this  plan,  as  I  understand  it, 
BATF  would  not  issue  a  license  until  they  investigated  this  person,  his 


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record,  and  so  forth;  and  if  lie  has  a  good  record  and  a  good  reason  for 
wanting  these  explosives,  then  they  would  issue  a  license,  otherwise 
not;  is  that  your  understanding? 

Mr.  Gordon.  That  is  right.  Senator.  Also,  we  feel  that  the  legiti- 
mate user  would  have  no  trouble  in  getting  a  license,  and  we  would 
not  have  the  licensing  costly.  We  are  talking  about  a  small  amount, 
$5,  $10,  $15,  the  further  down  on  the  line  that  you  got  the  less  you 
would  be  charged.  So,  that  would  not  be  a  burden,  but  it  would  be  a 
requirement  to  keep  our  products  in  the  hands  of  legitimate  people 
from  the  place  where  they  are  manufactured  to  the  place  where  they 
are  exploded. 

Senator  Thurmond.  Well,  something  has  to  be  done  because  the 
way  these  terrorists  obtain  these  explosives  and  are  killing  people  and 
maiming  people  is  outrageous,  and  it  has  got  to  stop  somewhere. 

Now,  did  you  have  anything  else? 

Mr.  Calder.  One  of  the  other  points  we  present  for  consideration 
is  the  reversal  of  the  exemption  on  black  j)owder.  There  was  an  exemp- 
tion, I  believe,  on  5  pounds,  and  then  it  was  raised  to  50  pounds. 
This  is  unregulated,  does  not  have  to  be  locked,  under  control. 

Our  point  is  that  we  believe  it  should  go  back  to  a  5-pound  limit, 
and  then  be  properly  stored  and  controlled.  There  have  been  occur- 
rences noted  in  the  newspapers  where  commercial  stores  have  blown 
up  because  there  had  been  black  powder  stored  improperly,  in  our 
judgment,  for  safety  purposes,  but  stored  legally  in  the  building.  They 
had  a  fire  in  the  building,  and  the  building  has  been  blown  up.  There 
was  a  case  in  Indiana  and  a  case  in  Ohio  where  these  two  conditions 
existed. 

Mr.  Hampton.  Incidentally,  the  BATF  made  the  very  same  recom- 
mendation here  within  the  past  year,  and  it  was  the  judgment  of  the 
Senate  committee  then,  holding  the  hearings,  to  disregard  that 
recommendation. 

Senator  Thurmond.  Was  that  the  judgment  of  the  Judiciary 
Committee? 

Mr.  Hampton.  I  believe  so. 

Mr.  ScHULTz.  I  believe  it  was,  Senator.  I  believe  the  reason  for 
the  increase  was  the  idea  that  those  who  are  muzzle  loaders  needed 
more  black  powder  than  5  pounds — it  didn't  give  them  enough  to 
adequatel}^  load. 

Mr.  Hampton.  That  this  may  in  fact  inhibit  certain  legitimate 
users  of  black  powder.  But  from  a  pure  local  safety  standpoint,  I 
don't  believe  you  or  anybody  else  wants  to  live  next  door  to  50  pounds 
of  black  powder  that  is  not  kept  in  a  proper  magazine. 

Senator  Thurmond.  Yes. 

Mr.  Hampton.  For  the  same  reason  you  don't  want  to  be  next  door 
to  somebody  who  has  a  55-gallon  drum  of  gasoline;  and  most  local 
regulations  prohibit  such  storage  of  gasoline.  The  same  logic  would 
apply,  it  seems  to  me,  to  black  powder.  The  BATF  feels  the  same. 

Senator  Thurmond.  Do  you  have  anything  else? 

Mr.  Gordon.  Just  in  connection  with  that.  Senator,  the  pressures, 
the  motivation  for  raising  that  limit  to  50  pounds  was  from  the  muzzle 
loaders,  people  who  had  a  legitimate  use  for  the  black  powder.  But  it 
was  our  thought  that  there  probably  are  a  lot  of  groups  that  go  in  for 
this  sort  of  thing,  they  have  yearly  parties  where  they  go  out  and  re-do 


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the  battle  of  White  Phiins,  or  somethmg  hke  that,  from  the  revoUi- 
tionary  days.  There  is  no  reason  why  those  groups  could  not  have  an 
excess  amount  of  powder  in  a  magazine. 

Senator  Thurmond.  Five  pounds,  for  one  man,  is  a  lot  of  powder. 

Mr.  Gordon.  Yes,  sir.  So,  they  could  have  the  extra  quantity 
stored  in  a  magazine  and  made  available  to  them  on  these  legitimate 
occasions.  There  is  a  dual  problem.  There  is  not  onl}'  the  problem  of 
somebody  stealing  it  and  making  a  bomb  out  of  it,  but  there  is  the 
problem  that  Mr.  Hampton  mentioned,  that  if  somebody  who  is  a 
buff,  somebody  who  is  a  nuizzle  loader,  has  50  pounds  in  his  garage 
and  there  is  a  fire  that  certainly  is  a  hazard  to  the  neighborhood.  So 
that  you  could  not  only  have  a  terrorist  explosion,  but  an  accidental 
explosion  which  would  do  just  as  much  harm  to  tlie  people  that  were 
in   the  vicinity. 

That  is  something  we  think  ought  to  be  reversed,  and  go  back  to  the 
original  limit. 

And  the  other  point  that  is  in  the  written  statement  that  Mr.  Calder 
didn't  emphasize  now  is  the  question  of  neighboring  States,  con- 
tiguous States.  The  licensing  requirements  that  presently  exist  permit 
somebod}^  to  buy  from  a  neighboring,  continguous  State,  and  while 
BATF  has  done  its  best  to  require  certain  forms  within  the  scope  of 
its  regulations,  nevertheless,  there  is  no  permit  requirement  that  covers 
that  interstate  transportation  which  the  United  States  has  control 
over  under  the  Constitution,  from  one  vState  to  the  next. 

We  gave  a  little  ihustration  where  somebody  could  come  over  from 
Vermont  to  New  Hampshire  and  say,  Farmer  Brown  wants  to  shoot 
some  stumps,  and  I'd  like  a  case  of  dymamite,  and  he  can  get  a  case 
of  dynamite,  and  there  is  no  Federal  control  over  him.  We  think 
there  is  no  reason  for  that.  We  have  some  idea  how  it  got  in  there 
originally. 

Mr.  ScHULTZ.  If  the  licensing  recommendations  you  made  were  put 
into  effect,  do  you  believe  that  that  would  eliminate  partially  the 
problem  of  the  exception  contained  in  the  contiguous  States  provision? 

Mr.  Gordon.  That  is  correct. 

Mr.  ScHULTZ.  So,  the  licensing  aspect  may  be  more  important  than 
trying  to  repeal  the  contiguous  State  exception  contained  in  title  IS. 

Mr.  Gordon.  It  would  do  both. 

Mr.  Calder.  If  you  did  have  a  licensing  requirement,  then  the 
contiguous  States  would  not  have  an  exemption  from  that  licensing 
requirement,  it  would  be  a  moot  point.  But  if  it  still  had  the  exemptions 
it  would  not  be  to  what  we  think  would  be  a  benefit. 

Mr.  ScHULTz.  Senator,  I  knov*'  that  you  have  another  meeting  to 
attend,  would  you  entertain  a  motion  for  us  to  send  additional  ques- 
tions that  we  do  have  and  ask  for  a  response  in  writing? 

Senator  Thur:\iond.  Off  the  record. 

[Discussion  off  the  record.] 

Senator  Thurmond.  Would  you  respond  to  some  questions  we  will 
send  you,  and  answer  them  for  the  record? 

Mr.  Calder.  Yes;  we  would. 

Senator  Thurmond.  I  have  some  questions  here,  and  there  may  be 
more  that  arise  out  of  this  hearing.  It  would  be  well  for  you  to  take 
time  and  think  of  additional  questions,  and  for  them  to  take  time  and 
supply  answers. 

[The  questions  and  answers  referred  to  will  be  found  on  p.  154] 

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Now,  how  many  differenv.  types  of  explosives  are  there?  You've 
got  black  powder,  you've  got  dynamite,  and  what  else? 

Mr.  Hampton.  The  explosives  list  is  three  columns  wide  and  one 
full  page  long,  as  published  by  BATF. 

But  those  that  are  in  common  use,  as  far  as  commercial  application, 
Mr.  Calder  can  tell  you  better  than  I. 

Senator  Thurmond.  Would  you  please  provide  the  subcommittee 
with  a  list  of  all  the  explosives  that  are  most  commonly  used. 

Mr.  Calder.  There  are  about  a  dozen  common  uses. 

Senator  Thurmond.  I  think  tlie  record  ought  to  show  that. 

Now,  one  thing  that  strikes  me,  the  National  Guard  Armory,  people 
break  in  and  steal  guns ;  they  are  breaking  in  people's  homes  and  steal- 
ing guns;  they  break  in  stores  and  steal  guns.  If  they  wanted  this 
explosive  and  you  had  50  pounds,  they  would  run  the  risk  of  breaking 
in  to  get  50  pounds. 

In  other  words,  if  a  fellow  is  allowed  to  purchase  5  pounds  instead 
of  50  pounds,  it  is  more  inducement  for  a  man  to  go  after  that  50 
pounds,  if  he  can't  get  it  legally,  don't  you  think? 

Mr.  Calder.  My  opinion  would  be,  no.  The  only  reason  why  I 
say  that,  I  think  the  people  who  legitimately  want  the  product  will 
go  by  the  rules  of  the  game  to  use  it. 

Senator  Thurmond.  I'm  not  speaking  about  those — sure,  they  wiU. 
I  am  speaking  about  the  fellow  who  wants  to  get  it  illegally.  Wouldn't 
it  be  more  inducement  to  him  if  he  can  get  50  pounds  instead  of  5 
pounds,  to  break  in  a  home  or  store? 

Mr.  Calder.  Oh,  yes,  I  see  what  you  mean;  certainly,  it  would  be. 

Senator  Thurmond.  And  isn't  it  a  temptation  to  people  where  they 
can't  get  it  legally  because  they  have  a  criminal  record,  or  some  other 
reason  would  prevent  them  from  getting  it  legally,  to  follow  a  course 
of  action  to  get  it  illegally.  Of  course,  that  would  be  to  steal  it  or  get 
it  in  some  other  illegal  manner. 

Are  there  any  other  statements  you  have  to  make? 

Mr.  Gordon.  Just  in  connection  with  that,  Senator,  all  explosives 
that  are  required  to  be  kept  stored  in  a  magazine,  and  there  are  five 
types  that  have  been  set  up  by  BATF  in  their  regulations,  every  one 
of  those  five  tvpes  requires  a  lock  on  it. 

Now,  there  are  thefts  from  magazines,  but  there  we  have  said  in  the 
statement  that  we  don't  recommend  legislation  so  much  as  a  continu- 
ing development  of  security  devices  on  magazines  to  prevent  thefts. 
We  think  BATF  is  doing  a  good  job  in  that  area. 

But  it  does  go  with  your  thought  that  if  you  have  to  keep  any 
significant  quantity  of  "^  explosives  in  a  magazhie  you  have  some 
security  because  it  is  locked  up,  and  that  is  a  deterrent  to  the  terrorist 
in  his  eft'orts  to  acquire  these  explosives. 

Senator  Thurmond.  Off  the  record  a  minute. 

[Discussion  off  the  record.] 

Senator  Thurmond.  Back  on  the  record.  What  type  of  magazine 
are  explosives  stored  in? 

Mr.  Calder.  The  BATF  set  up  five  categories  of  magazmes  for 
different  types  of  explosives.  There  are  cap  sensitive  explosives  that 
they  ask  to  be  stored  in  a  buUet-resistent  type  of  construction. 

Senator  Thurmond.  Would  you  answer  that  niore  fully  for  the 
record  when  you  answer  these  questions  that  we  will  send  to  you? 


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[To  counsel.]  You  might  propound  a  question  on  that. 

Mr.  ScHULTZ.  All  right. 

Senator  Thurmond.  Those  different  types  of  magazines  in  which 
explosives  are  stored,  and  the  j^rotection  the  magazines  give. 

Mr.  ScHULTz.  Ma}'"  I  ask  one  general  question,  Senator? 

Do  3'ou  see  an}^  need  for  regulations  concerning  the  related  materials, 
the  caps,  the  fuses — some  of  the  items  that  go  with  explosives.  As  T 
understand  it,  there  is  very  little  regulation  on  the  handling,  the  ])ur- 
chase,  and  the  storage  of  those. 

Mr.  Hampton.  That  is  not  true. 

Mr.  Calder.  They  fall  within  that  same  category. 

Mr.  ScHULTZ.  In  other  words,  fuses  are  fully  regulated? 

Mr.  Gordon.  A  safety  fuse  is  put  in  the  category  of  an  explosive. 

Mr.  ScHULTZ.  I  stand  corrected. 

wSenator  Thurmond.  A  safety  fuse  contains  explosive  material. 

Mr.  Gordon.  It  contains  black  powder  to  make  it  burn. 

Mr.  ScHULTZ.  Are  there  storage  requirements  for  fuses? 

Mr.  Gordon.  Oh,  j^es;  and  the  requirement  that  caps,  fuse  ca])s  not 
be  stored  in  the  same  magazine  with  explosives. 

Mr.  ScHULTZ.  I'm  aware  of  that. 

Mr.  Gordon.  There  are  regulations  on  all  of  those  materials. 

Mr.  Hampton.  And  they  are  subject  to  the  same  inventory  process 
that  applies  today  to  dynamite,  whereby  the  magazine  must  be — 
what  is  it,  three  times  a  week? 

Mr.  Calder.  Yes,  three  times  a  week. 

Mr  Hampton.  An  inventory  record  nnist  be  maintained  on  a  48- 
liour  basis. 

Mr.  Short.  But  is  this  in  fact  actually  done? 

Mr.  Hampton.  As  long  as  they  are  licensed  by  BATF. 

Mr.  Calder.  They  are  diligently  checking  that  enforcement.  They 
are  around  very  often.  They  check  the  records  of  the  people  on  the 
consuming  side,  and  also  at  the  distribution  points. 

Senator  Thurmond.  Now,  are  there  any  other  statements  you 
gentlemen  want  to  add?  On  these  questions  that  are  propounded,  if 
you  think  of  anything  else  you  think  would  help  the  course  here,  why, 
feel  free  to  make  them. 

Mr.  Calder.  Yes,  sir. 

Senator  Thurmond.  Anything  else? 

Mr.  Schultz.  No,  sir. 

Senator  Thurmond.  I  want  to  thank  you  gentlemen  very  much  for 
your  presence  here. 

These  terrorist  activities  are  increasing  over  the  country  and  over 
the  world,  and  it  seems  to  me  that  we  have  got  to  take  some  steps. 

Mr.  Calder.  Thank  you  for  the  opportunity.  Senator. 

Senator  Thurimond.  We've  got  to  come  up  with  some  legislation. 
I  think  after  we  get  the  record  all  completed  and  the  answers  to  these 
questions  that  will  be  submitted,  the  record  will  probably  reveal 
that  we  need  legislation;  and  if  we  do,  that  will|,be  the  responsibility 
of  the  subcommittee  to  prepare  and  bring  to  the  floor  and  the  full 
committee. 

Thank  you  very  much. 

[Whereupon,'  at  11:10  a.m.,  the  subcommittee  adjourned,  subject 
to  the  call  of  the  Chair.] 


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Supplemental  Questions  and  Answers 
[Referred  to  on  p.  151] 

Qucslimi.  Are  all  of  the  largest  companies  which  manufacture  explosives  mem- 
bers of  the  Institute  of  Makers  of  Explosives? 

Answer.  Yes,  except  for  Gulf  Chemical  and  Independent  Powder  Co.,  Cleveland, 
Ohio,  who  are  not  members. 

Question.  Is  the  makeup  of  your  membership  substantially  inclusive  of  the 
manufacturers  of  explosives  so  that  you  truly  speak  for  the  industry? 

Answer.  Yes. 

Question.  You  note  in  your  statement  that  you  have  encouraged  the  several 
states  to  adopt  uniform  regulations  and  have  made  a  model  law  and  regulations 
available.  Would  you  amplify  on  this? 

Answer.  IME  Publication  No.  3,  entitled  "Suggested  Code  of  Regulations  for 
the  Manufacture,  Transportation,  Storage,  Sale,  Possession  and  Use  of  Explosive 
Materials"  has  been  circulated  to  the  Governors  and  legislative  leaders  of  all  50 
states.  . 

Qitestion.   What  inconsistencies  have  you  found  and  what  recommendations 

have  you  made? 

Answer.  The  principal  inconsistencies  in  state  regulations  governing  explosives 
derive  from  the  failure  of  many  states  to  update  their  regulations.  Two  notable 
examples  of  this  are  (1)  the  American  Table  of  Distances  for  a  table  of  safe  dis- 
tances between  magazines  and  inhabited  buildings,  public  highways,  etc.,  which 
was  revised  by  IME  on  November  5,  1971  but  not  by  several  states;  and  (2)  the 
old  classification  of  magazines  bv  three  types  instead  of  the  five  types  which 
IME  has  adhered  to  since  the  latter  were  prescribed  by  regulations  of  the  Bureau 
of  Alcohol,  Tobacco  and  Firearms,  27  CFR  181.183.  BATF's  regulations  provide 
for  storage  facilities  for  blasting  agents  which  are  safe  but  less  restrictive  than 
those  for  explosives.  We  have  recommended  that  the  revised  American  Table  of 
Distances  and  the  BATE  classification  of  magazines  be  adopted  by  the  states. 
In  addition,  some  states  do  not  require  permits  for  intrastate  purchase  of  explo- 
sives. We  have  recommended  that  the  permit  requirement  of  Title  IS,  Chapter 
40,  U.S.  Code,  for  explosives  purchases  be  adopted  by  all  the  states. 

Question.  You  note  that  there  are  several  cases  of  conflict  among  the  explosive 
regulations  of  the  Federal  agencies  and  you  suggest  that  these  should  be  resolved 
by  the  Congress  if  they  cannot  be  resolved  among  the  Agencies.  Would  you 
identifv  these  areas  of  conflict? 

Answer.  IME  has  recommended  that  Federal  agencies  have  similar  basic  re- 
quirements for  explosives,  such  as  definitions,  with  diverse  requirements  in  their 
respective  particular  areas  of  expertise  so  long  as  such  diversity  is  practicable. 
The  principal  areas  of  conflict  among  the  explosives  regulations  of  Federal  agencies 
concern  the  definition  of  the  term  "blasting  agent"  and  the  provisions  for  ship- 
ment of  electric  l)lasting  caps  with  high  explosives. 

The  Bureau  of  Alcohol,  Tobacco  and  Firearms  has  adopted  the  Congressional 
definition  of  "blasting  agent"  (18  U.S.C.  §S4ire)),  while  the  Mining  Enforce- 
ment and  Safety  Administration  has  adhered  to  a  definition  with  reference  to 
regulations  of  the  Department  of  Transportation  which  exclude  certain  materials 
that  are  defined  as  a  blasting  agent  under  the  BATE  definition.  This  has  caused 
great  confusion  among  users  of  non-cap-sensitive  blasting  materials,  who  must 
label,  use  and  store  such  materials  under  one  set  of  requirements  by  BATF  and 
another  bv  MESA  if  the  materials  are  used  in  mining  o]3erations. 

The  regulations  of  the  Department  of  Transporation  permit  shipment  of  electric 
blasting  caps  in  the  same  vehicle  as  explosives,  while  those  of  the  Occupational 
Safety  and  Health  Administration  do  not.  This  results  in  the  practical  prolMem 
of  lawful  compliance  with  DOT  regulations  during  interstate  shipments  of  electric 
blasting  caps  and  high  explosives  but  unlawful  violation  the  moment  such 
shipments  arrive  at  explosives  operations  under  OSHA's  jurisdiction. 

Question.  Do  any  of  these  areas  of  conflict  result  in  loopholes  or  lack  of  regulatory 
enforcement,  as  a  result  of  which  explosives  may  come  into  the  hands  of  those  who 
will  use  the  explosives  for  illegal  purposes? 

Answer.  Under  the  regulations  of  the  Bureau  of  Alcohol,  Tobacco  and  I'lrearms, 
27  CFR  181.183(e),  blasting  agents  are  required  to  be  stored  in  theft-resistant 
magazines.  Regulations  of'  the  xMining  Enforcement  Safety  Administration, 
30  CFR  §  55.6,  56.6  and  57.6  do  not  reciuire  storage  of  blasting  agents  in  magazines 
of  any  tv'pe.  It  is  clear  that  blasting  agents  used  in  surface  or  underground  inmmg 
operations  may  come  into  possession  of  persons  who  will  use  them  for  illegal 


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purposes  because  of  the  absence  of  a  requirement  by  JNIESA  that  they  be  stored  m 
magazines  which  are  theft-resistant.  I  ME  has  proposed  to  MESA  that  it  adopt 
BATF's  storage  regulations  for  blasting  agents  to  close  this  loophole  and  achieve 
uniformity  of  Federal  regulation  in  this  area. 

Question.  You  suggest  that  the  contiguous  state  exemption  embodied  in  section 
842(a)(3)  of  Title  18  be  repealed.  Isn't  the  difficulty  here  the  fact  that  the  statute 
places  the  burden  upon  the  licensee  through  the  language  "has  reason  to  believe 
intends  to  transport",  without  providing  the  licensee  the  ability  to  check  the 
status  or  the  requirement  that  he  do  so? 

Answer.  The  problem  with  the  contiguous  state  exemption  in  18  U.8.C.  842(a) 
(3)  is  that  it  exempts  certain  purchasers  of  explosive  materials  from  the  require- 
ment of  a  license  or  permit.  As  we  explained  in  our  testimony,  this  fosters  in- 
stances where  inexperienced  persons  or  persons  intent  upon  the  improper  use  of 
explosives  can  have  ready  access  to  these  dangerous  articles. 

Question.  With  regard  to  your  suggestion  that  purchasers  of  explosive  materials 
which  move  in  interstate  commerce  be  required  to  ha\-e  a  license  or  permit — how 
do  you  envision  this  would  work,  and  which  Agency  would  have  jurisdiction  over 
the  enforcement  of  this  aspect? 

Answer.  State  authorities  would  administer  the  license  or  permit  requirement  for 
purchasers  of  explosive  materials,  with  the  Bureau  of  Alcohol,  Tobacco  and 
Firearms  having  jurisdiction  to  enforce  the  requirement.  The  Bureau  would  issue 
licenses  or  permits  in  states  which  do  not  have  their  own  licensing  procedures  for 
purchasers. 

Question.  And  do  you  envision  the  need  for  criminal  sanctions  to  be  imposed 
for  a  violation? 

Answer.   Yes. 

Question.  Does  the  Institute  of  Makers  of  Explosives  maintain  any  statistics 
pertaining  to  the  theft  or  miscellaneous  disappearance  of  explosives? 

Answer.   Yes. 

Question.  Do  you  have  any  statistics  relating  to  where  these  thefts  or  mis- 
cellaneous losses  occur? 

Answer.  Yes.  Enclosed  are  IME's  records  of  theft  reports  for  the  years  1973-7"). 

[Approximately  80  reports  were  furnished  and  retained  by  the  subcommittee.] 

Question.  Is  there  a  serious  theft  of  explosives  from  interstate  shipment? 

Answer.  See  answer  to  the  previous  question. 

Question.  Are  each  of  your  members  called  upon  by  the  Bureau  of  Alcohol, 
Tobacco  and  Firearms  to  provide  them  with  information  concerning  the  date 
shift  code  and  first  purchaser  of  explosives? 

Answer.   Yes. 

Question.  Does  .your  organization  provide  guidance  and  counsel  to  your  mem- 
ship  concerning  how  your  members  can  best  be  in  compliance  with  the  existing 
regulations  pertaining  to  the  control  of  explosives? 

Answer.   Yes. 

Question.  Does  your  Association  recommend  any  standards  which  are  more 
stringent  than  those  required  by  Federal  statute  or  regulation? 

Answer.  Yes. 

Question.  Is  the  focus  of  IME  primarily  safety  as  it  relates  to  the  handling, 
storage  and  transportation  of  explosives? 

Answer.  The  focus  of  IME  is  safety  in  the  manufacture  and  use  of  explosive 
materials  as  well  as  in  their  handling,  transportation  and  storage. 

Question.  Do  you  keep  statistics  relating  to  the  civil  penalties  imposed  or 
criminal  sanctions  imposed  against  any  of  your  membership? 

Answer.  No. 

Question.  Do  you  record  the  violations  which  prompted  such  action? 

Answer.  No. 

Question.  Does  your  Association  conduct  an  in-house  investigation  or  inspection 
for  your  membership? 

Answer.  Upon  request. 

Question.  Do  you  see  a  need  for  greater  control  on  blasting  supplies  and  acces- 
sories, such  as  blasting  caps,  safety  fuses,  detonating  cords,  blasting  machines, 
and  related  tools? 

Answer.    Not  separately,   but  as  part   of  control  of  all  explosive  materials. 

Question.  Do  you  see  the  need  for  a  background  investigation  for  all  individuals 
who  handle,  possess  or  use  explosives? 

Answer.  Only  for  persons  who  are  not  recognized  legitimate  users  of  explosives. 


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Question.  Do  you  sec  the  need  for  better  training  of  those  individuals  who 
actually  handle  explosives  and  prepare  them  for  detonation? 

Answer.  In  IME's  view,  this  is  purely  a  local  matter. 

Question.  Is  there  a  dissemination  of  information  between  your  membership 
relating  to  better  control  of  explosives? 

Answer.  Yes. 

Question.  Does  your  Association  have  an  active  program  designed  to  keep 
explosives  out  of  the  hands  of  the  criminal  element? 

Answer.  Yes.  ,       .,      ,. 

Question.  Would  you  please  provide  a  list  of  explosives  and  identify  those  most 

commonly  used?  ,    ,  rri  , 

Answer.  Enclosed  is  the  explosive  materials  lists  of  the  Bureau  of  Alcohol,  Tobacco 
and  Firearms.  We  have  italicized  in  this  list  the  most  commonly  used  explosives. 

[The  list  will  be  found  on  pp.  167-161  of  the  appendix.] 

Question.  What  types  of  magazines  are  used  for  storage  by  manufacturers  and 
what  protection  is  afforded? 

Answer.  The  types  of  magazines  used  for  storage  by  explosive  manufacturers 
and  the  protection  afforded  by  such  magazines  are  set  forth  in  regulations  of  the 
Bureau  of  Alcohol,  Tobacco  and  Firearms,  27  CFR  §§  181.181-181.200. 

Qtiestion.  Have  you  developed  anti-theft  concepts  which  would  alert  magazine 
keepers  as  well  as  law  enforcement  authorities  to  unauthorized  or  unlawful  entry 
attempts? 

Answer.  Yes.  .  . 

Question.  You  advocate  licensing  for  all  users  of  explosives.  Do  you  envision 
that  this  license  would  also  serve  to  identify  a  standard  of  proficiency  having 
been  attained  bj''  the  holder? 

Answer.  Not  necessarily.  For  proficiency  in  handling  and  using  explosive 
materials,  IME  recommends  that  the  principles  in  its  PubUcation  No.  3,  referenced 

above,  be  followed.  ttvtt^  ,     i  j  xu   . 

Question.  In  vour  prepared  statement,  you  said  that  IME  had  proposed  that 
Chapter  40  of  Title  18  be  amended  to  provide  a  uniform  permit  numbers  system 
through  the  .50  states.  You  said  that  this  would  afford  the  distributors  of  ex- 
plosives "an  efficient  method  of  recording  explosive  purchases  and  identifying 
purchasers,  and  will  further  afford  BATF  an  efficient  method  of  record-keeping  for 
investigations."  Could  you  spell  out  in  a  little  more  detail,  just  what  you  mean  by 
this  proposal?  .  •        ,  •  v 

Answer.  IME  proposes  the  establishment  and  use  of  a  permit  system  m  which 
permit  numbers  without  duplication  are  assigned  to  purchasers  of  explosive 
materials.  In  our  view,  this  would  promote  record-keeping  and  traceability  of 
explosives  purchases. 

Question.  Do  you  think  that  a  permit  to  use  explosives  is  a  sufficiently  important 
document  to  warrant  making  it  as  secure  as  possible?  Do  you  think  for  example, 
that  it  would  be  helpful  if  permits  were  plasticized  with  attached  photographs  of 
the  permittee?  And  do  you  think  it  would  be  helpful  if  applicants  were  warned  at 
the  point  of  application"  that  false  statements  would  make  them  liable  for  a  charge 
of  false  statements? 

Answer.  IME  believes  that  a  use  permit  is  a  sufficiently  important  document  to 
warrant  making  it  secure  bv  a  method  such  as  plasticization.  However,  a  photo- 
graph is  only  useful  where  there  is  an  individual  user,  it  is  impossible  and  imprac- 
ticable to  photograph  a  multi-user  organization  such  as  a  contracting  company. 
A  warning  that  an  applicant  will  be  liable  for  false  statements  in  a  permit  applica- 
tion should  be  part  of  the  written  application,  as  is  the  case  with  many  state 
driver's  license  applications. 


APPENDIX 

List  op  Explosive  Materials 

[Referred  to  on  p.  156] 

The  following  is  the  1976  List  of  Explosive  Alaterials  subject  to  regulation  under 
IS  U.S.C.  Chapter  40.  Included  are  both  explosives  (including  detonators) 
required  by  law  to  be  published  in  the  Federal  Register,  and  blasting  agents. 
It  is  intended  that  the  list  include  any  and  all  mixtures  containing  any  of  the 
materials  on  the  list.  Materials  constituting  blasting  agents  are  marked  by  an 
asterisk*.  Although  an  explosive  material  may  not  be  on  the  list,  this  does  not 
mean  that  the  material  is  not  within  the  coverage  of  the  law  if  it  otherwise  meets 
the  statutory  definition  in  18  U.S.C.  841.  Explosive  materials  are  listed  alphabeti- 
cally by  their  common  names  followed  by  chemical  names  and  synonyms  in 
brackets. 

A  ■ 

Acetylides  of  heavy  metals. 
Aluminum  containing  polymeric  propellant. 
Aluminum  ophorite  explosive. 

Amatex-20  [40%  TNT,  20%  RDX,  40%  Ammonium  nitrate]. 
Amatex-30  [40%  TNT,  30%  RDX,  30%  ammonium  nitrate]. 
Amatex-40  [40%  TNT,  40%  RDX,  20%  ammonium  nitrate]. 
Amatol. 
Ammonal. 

Ammonium  nitrate  explosive  mixtures  (cap  sensitire). 
*Ammo/iium  nitrate  explosive  mixtures  {not  cap  sensitive). 
Aromatic  nitro-explosive  mixture. 

Ammonium  perchlorate  having  particle  size  less  than  45  microns. 
Ammonium  perchlorate  composite  propellant. 
Ammonium  picrate  [picrate  of  ammonia]. 

Ammonium  salt  lattice  with  isomorphously  substituted  inorganic  salts. 
*ANFO  [ammonium  nitrate-fuel  oil]. 

B 

Baratol  [67%  barium  nitrate,  33%  TNT]. 
Baronal  [50%  barium  nitrate,  35%  TNT,  15%  aluminum]. 
BEAF  [1,  2-bi3(2,  2-difluoro-2-nitroacetoxyethane)]. 
Black  powder. 

^Blasting  agents,  nitro-carho-nitrates,  including  non  cap  sensitive  slurry  and  water- 
gel  explosives. 
Blasting  caps. 
Blasting  gelatin. 
Blasting  powder. 

BTNEC  [bis ( trinitroethyl ) carbonate] . 
BTNEN  [bis(trinitroethyl)nitramine]. 
BTTN  [1,  3,  4  butanetriol  trinitrate]. 
Butjd  tetryl. 

Calcium  nitrate  explosive  mixture. 

Carboxy-terminated  propellant. 

Cellulose  hexanitrate  explosive  mixture. 

Chlorates  and  red  phosphorus  mixture. 

Chlorates  and  sulphur  mixture. 

Composition  A-3  [91%,  RDX,  9%  Wax]. 

Composition  B  [40%  TNT,  60%  RDX]. 

Composition  C-4  [91%  RDX,  9%  plasticizer]. 

Copper  acetylide. 

Crystalline  picrate  with  lead  azide  explosive  mixture. 

Cyanuric  triazide. 

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Cyclotrimethylenetrinitramine  [RDX]. 
Cyclotetramethylenetetranitramine. 
Cyclotol  [75%  RDX,  25%  TNT]. 

DATE  [diaminotrinitrotetramethylene  tetranitramine). 

DATNB  [diaminotrinitrobenzenej. 

DDNP  [diazodinitrophenol]. 

DEGDN  [diethyleneglycol  dinitrate]. 

*  Delay  powders. 

Detonating  cord. 

Detonators. 

Dimethylol  dimethyl  methane  dinitrate  composition. 

Dinitroethyleneurea. 

Dinitroglyeerine. 

Dinitrophenol. 

Dinitrophenolates. 

Dinitrophenyl  hydrazine. 

Dinitroresorcinol. 

Dinitrotoluene-sodium  nitrate  explosive  mixtures 

Dipicrj^l  sulfone. 

Dipicrylamine. 

DNDP  [dinitropentano  nitrile]. 

DNPA  [2,  2-dinitropropyl  acrylate]. 

Dynamite. 

EDNP  [etliyl  4,4-diuitropentanoate]. 

Erythritol  tetranitrate  explosives. 

Esters  of  nitro-substituted  alcohols. 

EGDN  [ethylene  glycol  dinitrate]. 

Ethyl-tetryl. 

Explosives  conitrates. 

Explosives  gelatins. 

Explosive  mixtures  containing  oxygen  releasing  inorganic  salts  and  hydrocarbons. 

Explosive  mixtures  containing  oxygen  releasing  inorganic  salts  and  nitro  bodies. 

Explosive  mixtures  containing  oxygen  releasing  inorganic  salts  and  water  insohible 

fiiels. 
Explosive  )nixtures  containing  oxygen  releasing  inorganic  salts  and   water  soluble 

fuels. 
Explosive  mixtures  containing  sensitized  nitromethane. 
Explosive  nitro  compounds  of  aromatic  hydrocarbons. 
Explosive  organic  nitrate  mixtures. 
Explosive  liquids. 
Explosive  powders. 

Fulminate  of  mercury. 
Fulminate  of  silver. 
Fulminating  gold. 
Fulminating  mercury. 
Fulminating  platinum. 
Fulminating  silver. 

G 

Gelatinized  nitrocellulose. 

gem-dinitro  aliphatic  explosive  mixtures. 

Guanj'l  nitrosamino  guanyl  tetrazene. 

Guanyl  nitrosamino  guanylidene  hydrazine. 

Guncotton. 

H 

Heavy  metal  azides. 

Hexanite. 

Hexanitrodiphenylamine. 

Hexanitrostilbene. 

Hexogen  [RDX]. 

Hexogene  or  octogene  and  a  nitrated  N-methylaniUne. 

Hexolites. 


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H M X  [cy clo-1 ,3,5, 7-tetramethylene-2, 4, 6, 8-tetranitr amine ;  Octogen] . 
Hydrazinium  nitrate. 

Hydrazinium  nitrate/hydrazine  aluminum  explosive  system. 
Hydrazoic  acid. 

Igniter  cord. 
Igniters. 

K 

KDNBF  [potassium  dinitrobenzo-furoxane]. 

L 

Lead  azide. 

Lead  mannite. 

Lead  mononitroresorcinate. 

Lead  picrate. 

Lead  salts,  explosive. 

Lead  styphnate  [styphnate  of  lead,  lead  trinitroresorcinate]. 

Liquid  nitrated  polyol  and  trimethylolethane. 

Liquid  oxygen  explosives. 

M 
Magnesium  ophorite  explosives. 
Mannitol  hexanitrate. 
MDNP  [methyl  4,4-dinitropentanoate]. 
Mercuric  fulminate. 
Mercury  oxalate. 
Mercury  tartrate. 

Minol-2  [40%  TNT,  40%  ammonium  nitrate,  20%  aluminum]. 
Mononitrotolueue-nitroglycerin  mixture. 
Monopropellants. 

NIBTN  [nitroisobuta  metriol  trinitrate]. 

Nitrate  sensitized  with  gelled  nitroparaffin. 

Nitrated  carbohydrate  explosive. 

Nitrated  glucoside  explosive. 

Nitrated  polyhydric  alcohol  explosives. 

Nitrates  of  soda  explosive  mixtures. 

Nitric  acid  and  a  nitro  aromatic  compound  explosive. 

Nitric  acid  and  carboxylic  fuel  explosive. 

Nitric  acid  explosive  mixtures. 

Nitro  aromatic  explosive  mixtures. 

Nitro  compounds  of  furane  explosive  mixtures. 

Nitrocellulose  explosive. 

Nitroderivative  of  urea  explosive  mixture. 

Nitrogelatin  explosive. 

Nitrogen  trichloride. 

Nitrogen  tri-iodide. 

Nitroglycerine  [NG,  RNG,  nitro,  glyceryl  trinitrate,  trinitroglycerme]. 

Nitroglycide. 

Nitroglycol  [ethylene  glycol  dinitrate,  EGDN]. 

Nitroguanidine  explosives. 

Nitroparaffins  and  ammonium  nitrate  mixtures. 

Nitronium  perchlorate  propellant  mixtures. 

Nitrostarch. 

Nitro-substituted  carboxylic  acids. 

Nitrourea. 

O 
Octogen  [HMX]. 

Octol  [75  percent  HMX,  25  percent  TNT]. 
Organic  amine  nitrates. 
Organic  nitramines. 
Organic  peroxides. 

Pellet  powder. 
Penthrinite  composition. 
Pentolite. 


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Perchlorate  explosive  mixtures. 

Peroxide  based  explosive  mixtures.  ,    .,  i 

PETN   [nitropentaerythrite,   pentaerythrite  tetranitrate,   pentaerythntol  tetra- 

nitrate]. 
Picramic  acid  and  its  salts. 
Picramide. 

Picrate  of  potassium  explosive  mixtures. 
Picratol. 
Picric  acid. 
Picryl  chloride. 
Picryl  fluoride. 

PLX  [95%  nitromethane,  5%  ethylenediaminej. 
Polynitro  aliphatic  compounds. 
Polyolpolynitrate-nitrocellulose  explosive  gels. 
Pottassium  chlorate  and  lead  sulfocyanate  explosive. 
Potassium  nitroaminotetrazole. 

R 

RDX  [cyclonite,  hexogen,  T4,  cyclo-l,3,5,-trimethylene-2,4,6-trinitramine;  hexa- 

hydro-l,3,5-trinitro-5-triazine]. 

S 
Safety  fuse. 

Salts  of  organic  amino  sulfonic  acid  explosive  mixture. 
Silver  acetylide. 
Silver  azide. 
Silver  fulminate. 

Silver  oxalate  explosive  mixtures. 
Silver  styphnate. 

Silver  tartrate  explosive  mixtures. 

Silver  tetrazene.  .  ,    r    7       j 

Slurried  explosive  mixtures  of  water,  inorganic  oxidizing  salt,  geiiing  agent,  Juet  ana 

sensitizer. 
Smokeless  powder. 
Sodatol. 
Sodium  amatol. 
Sodium  dinitro-ortho-cresolate. 
Sodium  nitrate-potassium  nitrate  explosive  mixture. 
Sodium  picramate. 
Squibs. 
Stvphnic  acid. 

T 

Tacot  [tetranitro-2,3,5,6-dibenzo-l,3a,4,6a-tetrazapentalene]. 

TATNB  [triaminotrinitrobenzene]. 

TEGDN  [triethylene  glycol  dinitrate].  ,     •,     4.  i 

Tetrazene  [tetracene,  tetrazine,  l(5-tetrazolyl)-4-guanyl  tetrazene  hydratej. 

Tetranitrocarbazole. 

Tetranitromethane  explosive  mixtures. 

Tetryl  [2,4,6  tetranitro-N-methylaniline]. 

Tetr'vtol. 

Thickened  inorganic  oxidizer  salt  slurried  explosive  mixture. 

TMETN  [trimethylolethane  trinitrate]. 

TNEF  [trinitroethyl  formal]. 

TNEOC  [trinitroethylorthocarbonate]. 

TNEOF  [trinitroethyl  orthoformate]. 

TNT  [trinitrotoluene,  trotyl,  trilite,  triton]. 

Torpex. 

Tridite. 

Trimethylol  ethyl  methane  trinitrate  composition. 

Trimethylolthane  trinitrate-nitrocellulose. 

Trimonite. 

Trinitroanisole. 

Trinitrobenzene. 

Trinitrobenzoicacid. 

Trinitrtocresol. 

Triniro-meta-cresol. 


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Trinitronaphthalene. 

Trinitrophenetol. 

Trinitrophloroglucinol. 

Trinitroresorcinol. 

Tritonal. 

U 
Urea  nitrate. 

W 

Water  hearing  explosives  having  salts  of  oxidizing  acids  and  nitrogen  bases,  sulfates, 
or  sulfamates. 

X 

Xanthamonas  hydrophilic  colloid  explosive  mixture. 


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(Note. — The  Senate  Internal  Security  Subcommittee  attaches  no  significance 

to  the  mere  fact  of  the  appearance  of  the  name  of  an  individual  or  organization 

in  this  index.) 

A  Page 

Austin  Powder  Co 145, 146 

B 
Brattleboro,  Vt 147 

Bureau  of  Alcohol,  Tobacco  and  Firearms  (BATF) 146-156 

C 

Calder,  Brooke  J.,  Jr.,  testimonj^  of 145-156 

Cleveland,  Ohio 145,  154 

Code  of  Federal  Regulations  (CFR) 154 

Crime  Control  Act  of  1970 146 

D 
Department  of  Transportation  (DOT) 146,  154 

E 
Environmental  Protection  Agency  (EPA) 146 

G 

Gordon,  Frank  H.,  testimony  of 145-156 

Greenwich  Village 147 

Gulf  Chemical 154 

H 
Hampton,  Harry  L.,  testimony  of 145-156 

I 
Independent  Powder  Co 154 

K 
Keene,  N.H 147 

L 
List  of  Explosive  Materials 157-161 

M 

Martin,  David 145-156 

Mining  Enforcement  and  Safety  Administration  (MESA) 146,  154,  155 

N 

New  Hampshire 147 

New  York  City 147 

O 
Occupational  Safety  and  Health  Administration  (OSHA) 146,  154 

S 

vSchultz,  Richard  L 145-1.56 

Short,  Robert  J 145-156 

Suggested    Code   of    Regulations   for   the    Manufacture,    Transportation, 

Storage,  Sale,  Possession,  and  Use  of  Explosive  Materials  (publication).       154 

(I) 


T  Page 

Thurmond,  Senator  Strom 145-156 

Treasury  Department 146 

XJ 

United  States 151 

Code  (USC) 146,148,157 

Congress 147 

Constitution 151 

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