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HEARING 

SENATE  RULES  COMMITTEE 

STATE  OF  CALIFORNIA 


STATE  CAPITOL 

ROOM  113 

SACRAMENTO,  CALIFORNIA 

WEDNESDAY,  JANUARY  7,  2009 

1:32  P.M. 


GOVERNMENT 
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MAY  1  8  2009 

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HEARING 

STATE  CAPITOL 

ROOM  113 

SACRAMENTO,   CALIFORNIA 

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WEDNESDAY,  JANUARY  7,   2  009 
1:32  P.M. 
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Reported  By:    INA  C.  LeBLANC 

Certified  Shorthand  Reporter 
CSR  No.  6713 


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APPEARANCES 
MEMBERS  PRESENT 

SENATOR  DARRELL  STEINBERG,  Chair 

SENATOR  GIL  CEDILLO 

SENATOR  SAMUEL  AANESTAD 

SENATOR  ROBERT  DUTTON 

SENATOR  JENNY  OROPEZA 

STAFF  PRESENT 

GREG  SCHMIDT,  Executive  Officer 
JANE  LEONARD  BROWN,  Committee  Assistant 
NETTIE  SABELHAUS,  Appointments  Consultant 
DAN  SAVAGE,  Assistant  to  SENATOR  CEDILLO 
BILL  BAILEY,  Assistant  to  SENATOR  AANESTAD 
CHRIS  BURNS,  Assistant  to  SENATOR  DUTTON 
BRENDAN  HUGHES,  Assistant  to  SENATOR  OROPEZA 

ALSO  PRESENT 

JAMES  D.  ASCHWANDEN,  Member,  State  Board  of  Education 
YVONNE  CHAN,  Ed.  D.,  Member,  State  Board  of  Education 
KAREN  L.  DOUGLAS,  Member,  State  Energy  Resources 
Conservation  and  Development  Commission 


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ALSO  PRESENT  (cont.) 

CANDICE  A.  TRAEGER,  Member,  Occupational  Safety 

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Health  Appeals  Board 

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Proceedings  

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Governor's  Appointees: 

KAREN  L.  DOUGLAS,  Member,  State  Energy  Resources 

Conservation  and  Development  Commission  

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Questions  by  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG  re: 

Making  State  government ' s  approach 

to  energy  more  coherent  

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Energy  Commission's  role  in  education 

and  work-force  training  in  the 

alternative  energy  field  

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Questions  by  SENATOR  OROPEZA  re: 

Cap-and- trade  programs  

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Air  quality  in  District  28  

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Retrofitting  

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Questions  by  SENATOR  DUTTON  re: 

Jobs  in  California  

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Alternative  fuels  

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TVs  

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legislature  

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Questions  by  SENATOR  CEDILLO  re: 

Limitations /adverse  consequences 

of  cap- and- trade  program  

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Witnesses  in  Support  of  Appointee: 

VICTORIA  ROME,  Natural  Resources  Defense 

Council  and  California  League  of  Conservation 

Voters  

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MELVE  BIGELOW,  Nature  Conservancy  

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YVONNE  CHAN,  Ed . D . ,  Member,  State  Board  of 

Education  

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JAMES  D.  ASCHWANDEN,  Member,  State  Board  of 

Education  

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Questions  to  Both  by  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG  re: 

View  on  State  imposing  unfunded 

mandates  

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1  Voting  for  the  measure  49 

2  Voting  against  the  measure 49 

3  AB219  51 

4  CAHSEE  requirement  for  special  ed. 

5  students  54 

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7  Achievement  gap  58 

8  Witnesses  in  Support  of  YVONNE  CHAN,  Ed . D . : 

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10  Association  67 

11  SHERRY  GRIFFITH,  Association  of  California 

12  School  Administrators  68 

13  Witnesses  in  Support  of  JAMES  D.  ASCHWANDEN: 

14  FRED  JONES,  California  Business  Education 

15  Association  67 

16  SHERRY  GRIFFITH,  Association  of  California 

17  School  Administrators  68 

18  CHRIS  WALKER,  California  Association  of 

19  Sheetmetal  Air  Conditioning  Contractors, 

20  California  Automotive  Business  Coalition, 

21  California  Industrial  and  Technology 

22  Education  Association  68 

23  GREG  HINES,  California  Manufacturers  and 

24  Technology  Association  69 

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1  Witnesses  in  Support  of  JAMES  D.  ASCHWANDEN  (cont.) 

2  CESAR  DIAZ,  State  Building  and  Construction 

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5  CANDICE  A.  TRAEGER,  Member,  Occupational  Safety 

6  and  Health  Appeals  Board  73 

7  Questions  by  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG  re: 

8  Backlog  and  settlement  rate  77 

9  Fines  82 

10  Heat  cases  83 

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12  Five  thousand  dollar  mandatory 

13  penalty  fee  85 

14  Elimination  of  hearing  sites  87 

15  Fine  reduction  89 

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18  Labor  position  on  board  92 

19  Witnesses  in  Support  of  CANDICE  A.  TRAEGER: 

20  JUDGE  MANUEL  MELGOZA,  Administrative  Law  Judge, 

21  Cal  OSHA  Appeals  Board  94 

22  BRAD  DIEDE,  California  Professional  Association 

23  of  Specialty  Contractors  96 

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Witnesses  in  Opposition  to  CANDICE  A.  TRAEGER: 

SUZANNE  MURPHY,  Worksafe  101 

MARTHA  GUZMAN,  California  Real  Legal  Assistance 

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PAMELA  A.  GIACOMINI,  Member,  State  Board 
of  Forestry  and  Fire  Protection  122 

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Certificate  of  Reporter  124 

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i  PROCEEDINGS 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Members  of  the  public,  we 

3  do  have  a  quorum,  but  we  are  going  to  wait  a  few  minutes 

4  because  our  Republican  colleagues  are  just  leaving 

5  caucus,  and  we  want  to,  of  course,  extend  to  them  the 

6  courtesy  to  get  here  before  we  start . 

7  (Pause . ) 

8  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Committee  on  Rules  will 

9  come  to  order. 

10  Clerk,  please  call  the  roll.   Secretary,  please 

11  call  the  roll.   Excuse  me. 

12  MS.  BROWN:   Senator  Cedillo. 

13  SENATOR  CEDILLO:   Here 

14  MS.  BROWN:   Cedillo  here. 

15  Dutton. 

16  SENATOR  DUTTON:   Here. 

17  MS.  BROWN:   Dutton  here. 

18  Oropeza. 

19  SENATOR  OROPEZA:   Here. 

20  MS.  BROWN:   Oropeza  here. 

21  Aanestad. 

22  SENATOR  AANESTAD: 

23  MS.  BROWN:   Aanestad  here. 

24  Steinberg. 

25  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Here. 


MS.  BROWN:   Steinberg  here. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   A  quorum  is  present,  and 
committee  membership  is  present. 

I'd  like  to  welcome  the  members  and  staff,  and 
members  of  the  public,  to  the  first  Rules  Committee 
hearing  of  the  2009-2010  session.   And  thank  you  to  the 
staff  for  excellent  materials  in  preparation,  as  always. 

We  want  to  begin  today  a  little  out  of  order 
without  objection  by  any  of  the  members  and  begin  here 
with  Karen  Douglas  up  for  confirmation  for  the 
California  Energy  Commission.   This  is  one  scene. 

Ms.  Douglas,  welcome  to  you. 

MS.  DOUGLAS:   Thank  you  very  much. 

Is  this  on? 

SERGEANT-AT-ARMS  BARNETT :    Yes,  it  is. 

MS.  DOUGLAS:   Thank  you. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   I  will  waive  my  lengthy 
opening  statement  here. 

Why  don't  you  begin  with  an  opening  statement, 
if  you  would  like. 

MS.  DOUGLAS:   Absolutely.   Thank  you  very  much 
Senator,  and  good  afternoon. 

I  had  the  opportunity  to  meet  most  of  the 
senators  on  the  committee  prior  to  coming  in  here,  and  I 
was  really  pleased  to  have  that  opportunity. 


1  My  opening  statement  will  be  very  brief.   I  -- 

2  It's  a  tremendous  --  It's  been  a  tremendous  honor  and 

3  privilege  and  pleasure  to  serve  on  the  California  Energy 

4  Commission  at  this  very  important  time  in  state  energy 

5  policy. 

6  As  you  may  know,  I  come  to  the  position  with  a 

7  strong  background  and  interest  in  both  energy  and 

8  climate  issues,  and  strongly  believe  that  the  California 

9  Energy  Commission  is  going  to  be  a  very  important 

10  organization  in  helping  the  state  meet  its  climate  goals 

11  in  a  way  that  preserves  and  maintains  the  level  of 

12  service  and  reliability  for  all  Calif ornians . 

13  We  face  both  tremendous  challenges  right  now 

14  and  tremendous  opportunities.   We  need  to  make  strong 

15  and  sustained  progress  towards  reducing  our  greenhouse 

16  gas  impacts  and  other  pollution  from  the  electricity  and 

17  transportation  sectors,  and  there  are  tremendous 

18  opportunities  to  do  that  in  terms  of  improving 

19  efficiency  standards,  achieving  zero-emission  homes, 

20  overcoming  barriers  to  meeting  our  renewable  --  our  RPS 

21  goals,  both  the  current  statutory  goal  of  20  percent  and 

22  the  33  percent  goal  that  the  governor  announced  and  that 

23  Senator  Steinberg  and  others  were  present  at  and 

24  supported  for  33  percent  by  2020. 

25  The  CEC  is  going  to  be  a  very  important  player 


in  helping  that  to  happen.   We  can  look  at  developing 
the  next  generation  of  energy-efficiency  programs, 


retrofitting  existing  buildings  that  somewhere  we 

haven't  had  much  progress  so  far,  and  looking  at  load 

management  and  so  on. 

In  order  to  sustain  this  effort  over  the  long 

term,  which  is  really  what's  needed  to  meet  our  climate 

goals,  we  also  have  to  make  sure  we  deliver  real 

benefits  to  Calif ornians ,  including  both  economic  and 

environmental  benefits,  and  I  think  we're  in  a  position 

to  do  that.   If  we  succeed  with  our  policies,  we'll  both 

improve  environmental  performance  and  also  help  bring 

jobs  to  California  and  help  bring  real  economic  benefits 

to  California,  so  we're  looking  hard  at  how  to  do  all  of 

that.  . 

In  my  first  year,  I  was  very  involved  in 

Executive  Order  S  1408,  which  looked  at  --  not  only 

declared  a  33  percent  RPS  goal,  but  also  pushed  Energy 

Commission  and  DFG  to  look  at  everything  we  could  do  in 

the  siting  arena  to  make  sure  we  would  remove  at  least 

one  section  of  work  barriers  to  getting  to  that  goal. 

I've  been  very  involved  in  the  implementation 

of  AB  118,  which  is  helping  the  State  --  or  hopefully 

will,  as  we  get  it  off  the  ground,  help  the  State 

achieve  much  more  in  terms  of  clean  alternative  -  fuel 

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1  vehicles.   And  this  is  another  area  we're  looking  at 

2  work  force  and  the  economy  as  part  of  our  statutory 

3  mandate,  and  then  looking  at  how  we  review  environmental 

4  impacts,  particularly  greenhouse -gas  impacts  and 

5  power-plant  siting.   Those  are  three  important  areas 

6  that  I've  been  very  active  in. 

7  I  welcome  the  opportunity  to  be  here  today  and 

8  welcome  any  questions  you  have.   Thank  you. 

9  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Thank  you  very  much, 

10  Ms.  Douglas,  for  your  service  and  for  your  willingness 

11  to  continue . 

12  I  just  have  a  couple  areas  that  I  would  like  to 

13  explore  with  you,  and,  of  course,  I'll  open  it  up  to  the 

14  members . 

15  What  is  your  recommendation,  having  been 

16  involved  in  this  area  for  quite  some  time,  about  how  we 

17  deal  with  the  alphabet  soup  of  energy  policy?   You've 

18  got  the  California  Energy  Commission,  you  have  ALRB,  you 

19  have  Cal  EPA,  you  have  US  EPA,  all  responsible  for 

20  various  parts  of  fuel  policy,  energy  policy.   So  how  do 

21  we  make  the  state  government's  approach  to  energy  more 

22  coherent?   What  do  we  need  to  do  legislatively  and/or 

23  administratively  to  either  better  coordinate  the  work  of 

24  these  agencies  or,  frankly,  reorganize  some  of  these 

25  agencies  to  achieve  that  coherence?   That's  one  area. 


I'll  just  lay  out  the  other,  and  you  can  answer  both. 

The  other  area  may  seem  a  little  bit  unorthodox 
for  confirmation  hearing  for  an  energy  commissioner,  but 
I  really  want  to  know  your  views  on  California's 
high-school  dropout  problem.   And  I'm  not  kidding, 
actually.   I  want  to  know  what  your  thoughts  are  around 
how  we  think  about  the  economy  that  is  going  to  grow 
around  alternative  energy  and  how  we  link  education  and 
work-force  training  and  career  pathways  for  young  people 
to  begin  thinking  about  working  in  the  alternative- 
energy  field  and  what  role  the  Energy  Commission  could 
play  in  elevating  that  issue.   Those  are  my  two  small 
questions.   Go  ahead. 

MS.  DOUGLAS:   Absolutely.   Thank  you  very  much. 

In  terms  of  the  alphabet  soup  and  the  number  of 
cooks  in  the  kitchen  sometimes  on  energy  policy,  I  think 
there's  no  question  that  on  most  of  the  important  policy 
areas  in  energy,  more  than  one  agency  is  involved  in 
making  important  policy  decisions  and  rule  making.   And 
I'll  just  give  a  few  examples. 

In  --  The  Energy  Commission  produces  a 
strategic  transmission  investment  plan  and  is  one  of  the 
coordinators  of  RETI,  which  is  a  transmission 
stakeholder  process.   The  ISO  did  its  own  study  last 
summer  to  determine  the  number  and  location  of  needed 


1  transmission  lines  to  act  as  renewables.   The  PUC  has 

2  siting  authority  over  transmission,  and  this  is  not 

3  necessarily  an  impossible  situation,  but  at  the  same 

4  time  the  fact  that  there  is  significant  overlap  between 

5  the  ISO,  the  PUC,  and  the  CEC  on  transmission  planning 

6  and  siting  makes  it  more  difficult  sometimes  to  achieve 

7  a  coherent  planning  policy  direction. 

8  Both  the  Energy  Commission  and  the  PUC  are 

9  going  to  be  engaged  in  this  coming  year  in  an  in-depth 

10  look  at  renewable  energy  and  how  we  achieve  a  33  percent 

11  RPS .   We  are  coordinating.   We  are  participating  in 

12  their  process.   They  will  send  staff  to  our  process, 

13  but,  again,  it  can  make  it  difficult  to  come  out  with  a 

14  coherent  and  entirely  consistent  policy  direction,  even 

15  though  I  think  the  Energy  Commission,  the  PUC  and  the 

16  ISO  are  working  together  quite  well  right  now  and  are 

17  doing  everything  we  can  to  improve  coordination. 

18  As  you  no  doubt  know,  the  governor's  office  has 

19  been  looking  at  how  to  achieve  more  consolidation  and 

20  realignment  among  energy  agencies  in  order  to  get  more 

21  efficiency,  and  also  clear  lines  of  accountability  and 

22  policy  direction  and  the  ability  to  have  more  assurance 

23  that  we're  going  to  meet  our  goals.   I  don't  really  know 

24  what  the  specifics  of  that  are,  but  I  think  --  I'm 

25  pleased  to  hear  of  your  interest,  and  I  think  it  will 


certainly  be  a  topic  we  will  be  looking  at. 

In  terms  of  your  second  question,  it  actually 
is,  as  you  no  doubt  suspected,  a  very  relevant  and 
important  topic  for  the  Energy  Commission  to  be  thinking 
about.   We  want  to  create  a  domestic  renewables 
industry.   We  want  to  achieve  goals  that,  you  know,  we 
really  need  people  working  in  California  to  help  us 
achieve.   I'll  give  an  example. 

The  Energy  Commission  is  in  the  process  of 
creating  a  home  energy  rating  system  for  evaluating  the 
energy  efficiency  and  actually  rating  the  energy 
efficiency  of  existing  homes.   We  are  in  a  position, 
once  we  have  this  in  place,  which  should  be  in 
midsummer,  to  really  launch  an  effort  to  get  people's 
homes  rated  so  that  when  you're  a  buyer,  for  example, 
you  know  how  your  house  you're  considering  stacks  up 
against  other  houses.   If  you're  an  owner,  you  have  the 
opportunity  to  understand  better  what  you  might  do  to 
improve  the  energy  performance  of  your  house.   It's  got 
great  potential  for  changing  the  way  we  think  about 
retrofits  in  existing  buildings.   But  to  make  it  happen, 
we  need  people  to  do  the  rating;  we  need  people  to  do 
retrofits;  we  need  people  to  really  go  out  and  organize 
these  types  of  programs. 

So  we  really  do  need  to  think  about  how  we 


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create  the  right  work  force  for  the  green  economy. 
We've  been  working  on  that  probably  more  actively 

3  through  looking  at  the  118  program,  which  is  fuels  and 

4  technology,  although  we  also  brought  our  renewables 

5  staff  to  those  meetings.   And  we've  met  recently  with 

6  the  EDD,  the  Workforce  Investment  Board,  and  others  to 

7  talk  about  how  we  might  coordinate  more  and  think 

8  together  more  about  how  to  achieve  a  green  energy 

9  economy.   They're  working  on  it.   We're  thinking  about 

10  it.   But  each  set  of  agencies  has  its  own  expertise,  so 

11  it's  been  very  helpful  to  talk  to  them. 

12  I  think  one  conclusion  we  reached  from  some  of 

13  those  conversations  is  that  the  State  right  now  does  not 

14  have  a  plan  or  an  analysis  for  what  actually  is  needed 

15  for  the  green  energy  economy,  so  we're  talking  to  them 

16  about  how  to  do  some  of  the  underlying  analytical  work 

17  in  terms  of  what  are  the  job  opportunities,  what  are  the 

18  technical  skills  and  fields  of  education  that  would  be 

19  most  useful  in  order  to  train  people  for  those 

20  opportunities.   In  some  fields  we  have  a  pretty  good 

21  idea,  but  overall  we  can  benefit  from  learning  more 

22  about  it. 

23  So  I  think  it's  a  really  important  area,  and 

24  it's  something  that  we're  beginning  to  pick  up. 

25  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   All  right.   Thank  you. 


I'm  going  to  have  a  specific  ask  of  you  at  the  end  on 
that  subject,  but  in  the  meantime  let's  ask  other 
members  to  weigh  in. 

Senator  Oropeza. 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:   Thank  you. 

I  enjoyed  our  conversation  prior  to  the 
hearing,  and  I'm  going  to  elaborate  on  some  of  the 
things  we  talked  about  and  delve  a  little  bit  deeper. 

Let  me  ask  you  about  your  view  on  something 
that  is  controversial  but  has  been  adopted  under  AB  32 
by  the  ARB ,  and  that's  cap-and- trade  programs  and  how 
they  will  ensure  that  they  meet  the  conditions 
specifically  about  not  impacting  poor  communities  as 
they  do  this  trading,  that  it  doesn't  end  up  all  falling 
on  poor  communities.   So  it's  sort  of  an  environmental - 
justice,  from  my  point  of  view,  issue. 

What  is  the  Commission's  view  on  that,  and  what 
is  your  view,  and  how  are  you  working  to  mitigate 
against  that  happening? 

MS.  DOUGLAS:   The  Energy  Commission  and  the 
PUC  actually  did  a  joint  proceeding  on  a  climate  plan  or 
climate  efforts  for  the  electricity  sector,  so  that 
included  both  looking  at  cap-and- trade  design  and  also 
calling  for  33  percent  of  renewable  portfolio  standard 
and  all  cost-effective  energy  efficiency. 


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1  I  think  that  on  cap-and- trade ,  it's  very,  very 

2  important  to  know  and  understand  well  the  details  of  the 

3  policy  that's  being  proposed.   " Cap-and- trade "  is  an 

4  umbrella  phrase  that  captures  blinding  different, 

5  sometimes,  design  criteria  that  can  create  very 

6  different  on- the- ground  results. 

7  Our  focus  in  the  Energy  Commission  proceeding, 

8  which  did  suggest  that  if  --  What  we  basically  said  is 

9  if  ARB  is  able  to  meet  the  standards  in  AB  32,  which  has 

10  very  strict  requirements  for  not  disproportionately 

11  impacting  people  in  EJ  areas,  then  we  thought  that 

12  cap- and- trade  was  an  appropriate  mechanism,  but  that  it 

13  has  to  be  designed  very  carefully. 

14  And  there  are  a  number  of  considerations.   I 

15  think  the  most  interesting  one  and  the  most 

16  controversial  one  from  our  proceeding  was  what  you  do 

17  about  the  different  starting  points  of  different 

18  California  utilities.   We've  got  a  number  of  utilities, 

19  particularly  in  Southern  California,  that  have  less  or 

20  no  access  to  hydropower  or  are  in  areas  with  very  severe 

21  air-quality  problems,  and  for  those  reasons  and  others 

22  ended  up  with  a  portfolio  where  they  import  much  more 

23  coal  power.   And  if  you  start  a  cap-and- trade  system 

24  right  away  where,  let's  say,  you  auction  100  percent  of 

25  allowances,  everybody's  got  to  buy  allowances,  what  you 


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find  is  the  distributional  impact  for  the  state  are 
probably  not  sustainable,  probably  not  fair,  and 


prob 

ably  not 

what  you  want  to  do. 

On 

the  other  hand,  one  of  the  great  values  of 

the 

cap-and- 

trade  system  is  that  it  does  internalize 

decision  mak 

ing  and  --  environmental  values  and  decision 

making,  and 

so  it  helps  people,  when  they  think  about 

the 

bottom  1 

ine,  think  about  what  they're  doing  for  the 

environment . 

So  there  are  advantages  to  it,  but  how  you 

do  i 

t  really 

matters . 

And 

we  ended  up  recommending  a  system  that ' s  a 

bit 

complex . 

I  think  the  mechanism  and  the  dates  matter 

less 

than  th 

e  big-picture  description,  which  is  to  say 

that 

it  started  out  biased,  if  anything,  towards  the 

utilities  that  were  more  dependent  upon  coal,  and  partly 

that 

they  needed  to  invest  more  and  do  more  to  reduce 

their  carbon 

footprint  than  the  others,  but  over  time 

move 

to  a  sy 

stem  that  increasingly  awarded  clean 

generation . 

And  that  time  was,  in  a  way,  a  transition 

path 

way.   So 

we  made  an  effort  to  do  that. 

Now 

,  the  level  of  detail  is  just  not  there  to 

say 

whether 

--  You  know,  right  now  what  we're  dealing 

with 

is  a  framework  and  possibilities  of  how  things  may 

go- 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:   I  think  it's  really,  really 

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1  important  that  somehow  there's  a  grappling  with  some 

2  accountability,  you  know,  some  way  to  create  some 

3  accountability  around  how  this  all  sort  of  lays  out  and 

4  who  it  falls  upon.   And  so  if  there  isn't  that  now,  or 

5  it's  kind  of  gray,  or  it's  fuzzy,  I  would  just  urge  that 

6  maybe  you  can  light  a  fire  under  somebody  about  --  I 

7  know  it's  very  complex,  but  it's  very  critical  to  the 

8  overall  success,  which  is,  you  know,  quality  of  life  for 

9  every  Californian,  right? 

10  MS.  DOUGLAS:   Absolutely. 

11  SENATOR  OROPEZA:   Clean  air  for  every 

12  Californian. 

13  So  my  second  issue  also  relates  to  --  well,  it 

14  relates  to  air  quality  in  my  own  district.   And  there 

15  are  generation  plants  that  are  old,  very  old,  like  from 

16  the  '20s  or  something,  old,  in  Manhattan  Beach  and 

17  El  Segundo  in  my  district,  and  these,  we  are  told,  are 

18  going  to  be  needed  for  a  long  time,  that  they  eventually 

19  should  be  swapped  out  for  cleaner,  newer  facilities, 

20  and,  hopefully,  those  are  renewable  approaches  to  energy 

21  generation.   But  in  the  meantime,  what  is  the 

22  commission  --  what  kind  of  actions  or  measures  is  the 

23  commission  taking  to  assure  that  there's  not  --  there's 

24  minimal  impact,  environmental  impact  and  health  impact, 

25  on  my  constituents  in  those  communities? 


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MS.  DOUGLAS:   This  is  another  area  where  the 
alphabet  soup  of  energy  agencies  is  not  necessarily 
helping  us  in  achieving  our  goals.   I  think  everybody, 
Energy  Commission,  PUC,  ISO,  wants  to  see  these  old 
facilities  probably  re-powered,  if  not  retired. 
Re-powering  facilities  means  we  get  more  electricity 
from  them,  far  less  pollution.   It's  a  real  win-win. 

There  are  issues  in  doing  this.   The  Energy 
Commission  has  been  calling  for  this  for  years  and  years 
and  years,  but  we  don't  really  have  a  legal  mechanism  to 
make  anybody  do  it,  make  anybody  ret  ire/re -power .   We 
don't  have  any  way  of  doing  that. 

There  are  air  permit  requirements,  but 
sometimes  the  way  that  that  is  working  is  that  because 
these  old  facilities  actually  have  their  permits  and  are 
operating  under  their  permits,  they  continue  to  do  so, 
and  it's  hard  for  the  new  plants  to  get  permits,  and 
it's  hard  to  facilitate  any  kind  of  transfer  permits 
from  the  old  plants  to  the  new  plants.   So  we  sometimes 
find  ourselves  in  a  place  where  there  are  barriers  for 
getting  the  re-powers,  even  though  they  would  be  better 
for  the  environment . 

There  are  reliability  concerns  with  shutting 
down  these  plants  without  anything  to  replace  them. 
Those  reliability  concerns  are  very  important.   So,  you 


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1  know,  there  could  be  mechanisms  to  require  the 

2  retirement  and  re-power.   For  example  -- 

3  SENATOR  OROPEZA:   What  about  retrofitting?   I'm 

4  not  an  engineer,  but  what  about  the  notion  of  making 

5  them  cleaner,  making  them  operate  cleaner? 

6  MS.  DOUGLAS:   I  think  making  them  cleaner  would 

7  be  nice,  but  it  would  be  a  bigger  win  to  retire/re -power 

8  them. 

9  SENATOR  OROPEZA:   I  agree.   I  agree. 

10  MS.  DOUGLAS:   It  could  be  that  there's  an 

11  option  of  just  allowing  them  to  continue  to  run  and 

12  making  them  cleaner.   I  don't  think  it's  our 

13  preferred  -- 

14  SENATOR  OROPEZA:   It  depends  on  the  timeline. 

15  Certainly,  I  prefer  them  to  be  shut  down,  but  if  they're 

16  shut  down  in  20  years,  I  would  rather  have  them  clean 

17  now,  because  the  kids  really  can't  --  their  little  lungs 

18  can't  wait  20  years.   So  it's  sort  of  that  kind  of 

19  question,  and  I  don't  know  the  answer  as  far  as  --  All  I 

20  know  is  what  I've  heard,  which  is  that  we're  going  to 

21  need  these  plants  for  a  long  time  to  meet  future 

22  demands.   Is  that  your  understanding  as  well? 

23  MS.  DOUGLAS:   It  depends  on  where  we  are.   If 

24  we're  talking  about,  for  example,  the  South  Coast  Air 

25  Basin,  we  actually  find  ourselves,  because  of  the 


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lawsuit  over  the  South  Coast  Priority  Reserve  Program 
and  its  credits,  the  South  Coast  isn't  currently  able  to 
issue  permits  or  issue  credits  right  now  to  permit  any 
new  --  any  large,  new  source.   So  --  and  currently,  that 
would  affect  even  a  re-power. 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:   Really? 

MS.  DOUGLAS:   So  right  now  we're  talking  to  ARB 
and  others  about  how  we  deal  with  their  situation  so 
that  we  can  achieve  what  I  think  is  going  to  be  part  of 
the  solution,  which  is  bringing  new  generation  on  line, 
either  through  re-power  or  in  different  locations  that 
allow  retirement  of  these  old  facilities  in  order  to 
maintain  reliability  and  also  clean  up  the  air. 

That's  not  the  only  solution.   We  can  look  at 
more,  say,  small-scale  renewable  in  the  load  center;  we 
can  look  at  ultra  clean  cogen.   There  are  a  number  of 
options  that  could  happen  concurrently,  but  there  are 
obstacles,  particularly  in  the  South  Coast  Air  Basin, 
right  now  to  getting  these  retirements  or  re-powered. 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:   Doesn't  sound  very 
optimistic,  but  thank  you,  Mr.  Chair. 

MS.  DOUGLAS:   We're  trying  -- 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Ma'am,  one  of  the  things 
we  expect  is  once  you  are  confirmed,  that  the 
dialogue/discussion  will  continue  with  the  members  on 


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]  these  important  issues. 

MS.  DOUGLAS:   That  dialogue  will  continue. 

3  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Senator  Dutton. 

4  SENATOR  DUTTON:   Thank  you.   Just  a  little  side 

5  note.   Coming  from  Southern  California  --  actually, 

6  recent  studies  have  indicated  30  percent  of  the  air 

7  quality  problem  is  coming  through  the  jet  stream  over 

8  China,  so  the  more  we  chase  business  to  China,  frankly, 

9  it's  -- 

10  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   What  about  the  other 

11  70  percent? 

12  SENATOR  DUTTON:   That's  fine,  but  Calif ornians 

13  shouldn't  have  to  be  continuing  to  clean  up  the  air  so 

14  that  China  could  continue  to  have  worse  air  quality. 

15  SENATOR  CEDILLO:   As  soon  as  we  get  a  budget, 

16  we'll  start  building. 

17  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   We'll  hold  that  debate  for 

18  another  -- 

19  SENATOR  DUTTON:   I  would  love  to  start 

20  building.   So  far,  we've  got  a  lot  of  roadblocks,  which 

21  leads  me  to  my  question  about  the  direction  that  we're 

22  heading  with  regards  to  energy,  because,  obviously,  if 

23  we  don't  have  a  reliable  and  sustainable  supply  of 

24  energy,  we're  not  going  to  be  very  competitive  for  good 

25  paying  jobs  and  things  today.   Forget  about  what  jobs 


17 


may  be  there  20  years  from  now,  but  I'm  concerned  about 
the  jobs  today. 

Recently,  you've  been  --  you  actually  were  very 
supportive  of  going  to  the  33  percent  by  2020  when  it 
doesn't  even  look  like  we're  going  to  be  able  to  hit  the 
20  percent  by  2010,  so  --  well,  they  won't  be  able  to. 

So  you  keep  making  these  benchmarks,  but  I 
don't  see  the  road  how  you  get  there.   I'm  not  a  big  fan 
of  command-and-regulate ,  because  not  everybody  is  on  the 
same  page  with  us.   What  I'm  seeing  happen  and  what  I 
fear  is  going  to  happen  is,  once  again,  you're  going  to 
see  some  of  the  jobs  disappear  from  California,  moving 
to  other  states  that  don't  have  quite  the  same  demands. 
So  I'm  concerned  about  the  common  sense  part  about  how 
we're  going  to  get  there. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Briefly.   Brief  response. 
Thank  you . 

MS.  DOUGLAS:   I  think  it  would  not  be  a  good 
idea  to  just  increase  our  target  from  20  percent  to 
33  percent  without  looking  really  seriously  at  the 
obstacles  that  have  made  it  hard  for  us  to  achieve  our 
RPS  goals  so  far  and  being  fairly  confident  that  we've 
addressed  them  and  are  on  a  path  to  addressing  them. 

So  I  recognize  we've  had  trouble  meeting 
targets,  meeting  the  2010  target,  for  example.   Although 


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we're  not  terribly  far  away,  we're  not  going  to  hit  it. 
Meeting  a  33  percent  by  2020  target  will  be  challenging. 

3  We  really  need  to  get  our  house  in  order  at  the  State 

4  and  the  level  of  energy  in  order  to  make  it  possible. 

5  I  think  we  can  do  it,  but  we  need  --  there  are  other 

6  policy  issues  we  need  to  address. 

7  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Next  question,  Senator 

8  Dutton. 

9  SENATOR  DUTTON:   I  don't  have  to  ask  any 

10  questions .   I  did  have  a  few  more  questions  along  this 

11  line.   I  wanted  to  talk  about  alternative  fuel,  but  you 

12  don't  want  me  to  -- 

13  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   No.    I  want  you  to  ask  any 

14  and  every  question  that  you  want.   I  also  want  to  move 

15  the  hearing  along. 

16  SENATOR  DUTTON:   Okay.   Where  was  I?   You 

17  already  covered  the  alphabet  soup  of  energy  and  so 

18  forth. 

19  Alternative  fuels  is  another  area  that  you're 

20  involved  in  and  so  forth.   I've  always  believed  in  all 

21  policies  that  the  state  --  that  government  should  lead 

22  by  example.   And,  of  course,  we've  bought  --  have  spent 

23  our  money  buying  al ternat ive - f uel  vehicles,  and,  yet, 

24  based  on  the  numbers,  State  transportation  fuel 

25  purchases  during  last  year,  the  E85  ethanol  made  up  less 


19 


than 

1  percent  of  our  total  percentage  of  gas  usage.   So  it 
seems  to  me  some  of  these  rules  and  regs  and  things 
we're  going  to  be  imposing  on  the  private  sector,  we're 
not  even  doing  it  ourselves. 

Do  you  have  any  thoughts  about  what  we  need  to 
do  --  what  we're  going  to  have  to  do  in  order  to  change 
that? 

MS.  DOUGLAS:   We're  looking  at  that  as  part  of 
.the  118  program.   It's  a  broader  problem.   Flexible- fuel 
vehicles  are  capable  of  operating  on  85,  and  that's  a 
great  thing.   Right  now,  the  infrastructure  for  actually 
providing  E85  is  pretty  limited.   So  in  the  state 
garage,  for  example,  here  in  Sacramento,  there  is  an 
E85  pump,  but  if  you're  taking  a  trip  somewhere  else  and 
need  to  fill  up  the  car,  you  probably  won't  find  an  E85 
pump  . 

This  issue  --  it's  described  by  some  as  the 
chicken-and-egg  problem.   Do  you  build  the  fuel 
infrastructure  without  having  vehicles?   Do  you  go  ahead 
and  get  the  vehicles  and  then  bit  by  bit  build  up  the 
fuel  infrastructure,  or  do  you  throw  your  hands  up  in 
the  air? 

I  think  in  the  case  of  the  State  buying 
flex-fuel  vehicles,  it  was  done  with  the  understanding 


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and  planning  for  an  expansion  of  the  infrastructure, 
which  we're  working  on. 

3  SENATOR  DUTTON :   Okay.   So  you  might  say  we 

4  kind  of  put  the  cart  before  the  horse? 

5  MS.  DOUGLAS:   Well,  whether  you  get  the  horse 

6  first  or  cart  first,  eventually  it's  the  cart  and  horse. 

7  SENATOR  DUTTON:   Okay.   Thank  you. 

8  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Thank  you,  Senator  Dutton. 

9  I  thought  we  were  talking  about  fuel,  and  we're  talking 

10  about  carts  and  horses. 

11  Senators  Aanestad  or  Cedillo,  any  questions? 

12  SENATOR  AANESTAD:   Yes. 

13  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Senator  Aanestad. 

14  SENATOR  AANESTAD:   Ms.  Douglas,  I  appreciate 

15  the  previous  conversation  we  had  in  my  office,  and  I 

16  wanted  to  follow  up  on  part  of  our  discussion  regarding 

17  the  different  slots  that  we  have,  but  first  I'm  going  to 

18  warm  you  up  a  little  bit  with  this  question,  and  that 

19  is:   In  the  newspaper  this  week,  we've  read  that  the 

20  Energy  Commission  is  thinking  about  mandating  the 

21  removal  of  large  flat-screen  TVs  because  of  their  huge 

22  power  consumption.   That's  not  something  that  has  come 

23  to  your  level  yet;  however,  when  I  hear  that  the  LAO 

24  says  that  could  cost  us  between  50  and  60  million 

25  dollars  a  year  in  state  revenue,  when  I  hear  from  the 


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electronics  associations  that  it  can  cost  tens  of 
thousands  of  jobs,  and  it  can  cost  in  the  hundreds  of 
millions  of  dollars  in  sales  by  limiting  --  by- 
prohibiting,  not  just  modifying,  but  prohibiting  the 
sale  of  these  flat-screens,  I  just  want  to  know  what 
kind  of  position  you  would  take  when  that  question  gets 
to  you. 

MS.  DOUGLAS:   I  have  not  seen  the  article  that 
you're  referring  to,  but  I  know  about  the  issue.   The 
plasma  TVs  that  have  become  very  popular  are  very 
intensive  energy-users  compared  to  older  model  TVs,  and 
the  Energy  Commission  does  appliance  standards.   I  know 
that  we  are  looking  at  flat-screen  TVs. 

I  also  understand  that  there  are  technologies 
that  enable  these  TVs  to  be  built  in  more  energy- 
efficient  ways.   So  it's  not  that  all  flat-screen  TVs 
are  inevitably  very  high  energy  users .   Some  models  are 
significantly  better  than  others. 

So  in  situations  like  this,  I  think  it's 
actually  helpful  for  the  Energy  Commission  to  step  in 
and  consider  standards.   We  have  cost  effectiveness  and 
other  criteria  that  we  have  to  meet  in  order  to 
promulgate  standards,  and  we  also  have  a  history  of 
working  very  closely  with  manufacturers  in  trying  to 
understand  the  technical  difficulties,  barriers,  and 


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costs  and  timelines. 

SENATOR  AANESTAD:   So  you're  saying  you  see 
that  as  a  legitimate  function  of  government.   You  don't 
believe  the  cost  of  energy  should  be  between  the 
consumer  and  the  seller? 

MS.  DOUGLAS:   I  think  in  terms  of  appliances, 
for  example,  if  we  are  able  to,  as  we  have  with 
appliances  --  with  other  types  of  appliances,  if  we  are 
9    able  to  raise  the  bar  so  that  the  average  consumer  can 

10  walk  in  the  store,  pick  an  appliance  up  off  the  shelf 

11  and  it  will  at  least  be  reasonably  good  in  its  energy 

12  use,  it  won't  be  terrible  -- 

13  SENATOR  AANESTAD:   You  think  government  should 

14  say  what ' s  reasonable  and  not  the  consumer? 

15  MS.  DOUGLAS:   I  think  when  government  can  step 

16  in  and  help  give  consumers  better  products,  that's 

17  better.   Obviously,  you  started  out  the  question  by 

18  saying  "mandate  the  removal  of  flat-screen  TVs."   I 

19  don't  think  that's  what  our  staff  is  considering,  but  I 

20  haven't  seen  the  article. 

21  SENATOR  AANESTAD:   That  is.   That  is,  they  will 

22  mandate  the  removal  of  certain  sizes  of  flat-screen  TVs 

23  if  they  cannot  comply  with  the  standards. 

24  MS.  DOUGLAS:   I  see. 

25  SENATOR  AANESTAD:   Next  question  I  have,  and  I 


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hear  you  talking  about  renewable  energy  and  that  the 
Commission  is  committed  to  the  concept  of  33  percent, 
et  cetera.   In  my  district,  in  rural  California,  biomass 
is  probably  the  cheapest  and  simplest  form  of  renewable 
energy  that  we  can  come  up  with  today,  and  yet  the  sad 
fact  of  the  matter  is  in  early  December  I  heard  from  one 
of  our  largest  timber  producers,  lumber  producers,  that 
they're  shutting  down  a  plywood  plant  in  Weed, 
California  --  this  is  an  Oregon-based  company,  one  of 
the  largest  in  the  nation  --  simply  because  they're 
facing  lawsuits  funded  by,  in  part,  the  Environmental 
Defense  people  through  the  Shasta  organization  and  also 
other  environmental  groups  who  have  just  routinely 
filed  lawsuits  to  stop  the  biomass  generator  from  being 
built . 

Rather  than  fight  this,  they're  going  to  close 
the  plant.   The  largest  employer  in  that  county  is  going 
to  move  to  Oregon.   And  yet,  how  do  you  square  your 
role  --  your  past  role  as  a  director  and,  actually,  a 
general  counsel  for  the  organizations  that  are  now  and 
have  been,  even  when  you  were  there,  stopping  the 
production  of  energy  through  biomass  plants  or 
energy  siting  facilities. 

MS.  DOUGLAS:   I  don't  think  while  I  was  at 
Planning  and  Conservation  League  or  Environmental 


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!  Defense  Fund  that  we  --  certainly  not  to  my  knowledge  -- 
had  any  involvement  in  trying  to  stop  biomass  facilities 

3  from  going  forward. 

4  I  think  biomass  has  pros  and  cons .   Renewable 

5  energy  resource  is  base-load,  and  we  really  like  that. 

6  It's  an  opportunity  to  productively  use  wood  waste  and 

7  other  agricultural  waste  that  might  otherwise  just  be 

8  burned,  until  we  ban  that.   But  for  a  while,  it  was  just 

9  being  burned  and  creating  a  big  air-quality  problem. 

10  And  it  was  a  really  good  thing  to  generate  electricity 

11  in  circumstances  where  you  control  pollution  from  those 

12  facilities,  and  it  still  has  tremendous  potential. 

13  In  the  renewables  committee,  one  of  the  first 

14  actions  that  I  helped  the  Commission  take  as  presiding 

15  member  of  the  renewables  committee  was  to  actually 

16  simplify  the  rules  for  our  funding  program  for  biomass 

17  facilities.   The  Energy  Commission  administers  a  program 

18  where  we  give  biomass  facilities  some  supplemental 

19  funding  because  the  costs,  particularly  the  cost  of 

20  getting  fuel,  have  been  high  and  tend  to  be  higher  than 

21  what  they  have  been  able  to  negotiate  in  their  contracts 

22  for  electricity. 

23  So  we've  been  doing,  at  the  Energy  Commission, 

24  what  we  can  to  support  biomass,  although  --  and  we  see 

25  some  real  benefits.   We  always  reach  an  issue  where  you 


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have  to  look  at  the  cost  and  look  at  the  benefits  of 
fuel,  but  we've  made  a  decision  to  simplify  the  rules 
and  to  support  these  facilities  so  far. 

SENATOR  AANESTAD:   And  yet  we're  going  to  lose 
them  to  Oregon,  whose  Energy  Commission  in  Oregon  is 
actually  offering  a  financial  incentive  for  folks  to 
create  biomass  plants  and  have  the  timber  industry  do 
their  business  there,  which  results  in  the  loss  of  jobs 
exactly  the  opposite  of  what  I  would  think  the  Energy 
Commission  in  California  would  want  to  happen. 

MS.  DOUGLAS:   One  of  the  issues  that  the 
biomass  industry  has  faced  is  the  closure  of  mills  and 
the  reduction  of  timber  harvesting  in  California. 
That's  definitely  a  fact.   If  you  look  at  the  map  of 
where  we  had  biomass  facilities  and  where  we  have  them 
now,  the  facilities  that  have  closed  down,  many  of  them 
are  in  areas  where  we've  stopped  or  cut  back  timber 
production.   So  there's  no  doubt  a  draw  for  biomass 
facilities  to  be  in  areas  where  there  are  mills. 

SENATOR  AANESTAD:   Sure.    It's  not  just  where 
there's  mills,  it's  where  there's  forests.   In  my 
district  alone,  over  150,000  acres  last  year  burned  all 
at  the  same  time  with  huge  air-quality  implications.   In 
Marysville,  I  couldn't  even  see  the  signal  light  across 
the  street.   Had  we  been  able  to  take  some  of  that 


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1  biomass  out  previously,  not  necessarily  for  timber 

2  production  but  just  to  thin  and  manage  our  forest,  we 

3  wouldn't  have  that  kind  of  expense  and  public  hazard. 

4  And  yet,  what  I  see  is  the  environmental  organizations 

5  that  you  have  been  professionally  a  part  of  over  the 

6  last  decade  doing  anything  you  can  to  seemingly  stop  the 

7  kind  of  energy  production  we're  talking  of  here. 

8  Last  question.   Just  following  up  on  our 

9  conversation  in  my  office  regarding  the  different 

10  slots,  there's  five  different  slots  that  the  legislature 

11  has  determined.   One  of  them  is  an  attorney  slot,  which 

12  is  the  one  that  you're  going  for  today.   The  other  is  an 

13  environmental  slot  which  just  recently,  in  fact, 

14  yesterday,  became  open.   At  that  time  I  suggested  to 

15  you,  and  I  think  you  agreed,  that  you  can  fit  into 

16  either  one  of  those  slots.   The  fact  of  the  matter  is 

17  that  as  an  attorney,  your  entire  professional  career 

18  really  has  been  either  general  counsel  or  a  director  for 

19  an  environmental  organization. 

20  Don't  you  feel  you  would  better  serve  the  state 

21  and  that  we  would  probably  do  more  what  the  legislative 

22  intent  would  be,  is  to  put  you  in  the  environmental  slot 

23  and  try  to  find  somebody  who  is  not  biased  either 

24  towards  the  environmental  or  the  --  let's  say  the 

25  production  part  of  the  equation,  but  an  attorney  who  can 


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just  be  there  for  legal  questions  that  come  up,  which  I 
understand  -- 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    If  I  may,  Senator 
Aanestad,  the  witness  can  answer  the  question.   I  think 
one  thing  to  point  out  is  our  jurisdiction  is  to  review 
and  confer  or  not  confer  a  governor's  appointment.   He 
made  the  appointment  to  the  attorney  slot. 

SENATOR  AANESTAD:   Yes,  he  did. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   So  we  don't  have  the 
choice  to  tell  Ms.  Douglas  we'll  confirm  you  in  a 
different  slot  than  where  the  governor  appointed  you. 

Answer  the  question.   He's  asking  for  your 
opinion  as  to  whether  or  not  you  wish  the  governor  had 
appointed  you  to  a  different  slot. 

Is  that  the  question? 

MS.  DOUGLAS:   I  think  -  -  As  I  said  in  Senator 
Aanestad' s  office,  I  think  there's  no  question  in  my 
mind  I'm  qualified  for  the  attorney's  slot  and  I'm 
qualified  for  the  environmental  slot. 

It  happened  that  when  the  governor  appointed 
me,  they  were  looking  for  an  attorney  and  they  appointed 
me.   The  attorney  on  the  Commission  works  probably  -- 
certainly  more  closely  with  the  general  --  chief 
counsel's  office  and  deals  with  legal  issues  when  they 
rise  to  the  Commission  level,  but  we  also  have  a  very 


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strong  internal  counsel's  office.   So  I  think  I  am 
working  well  with  the  chief  counsel  and  the  attorneys 
and  fulfilling  that  role. 

4  Certainly,  if  the  slot  that  had  been  open  when 

5  I  was  appointed  was  the  environmental  slot,  I  would  have 

6  applied  for  it,  and  I  think  I  would  have  been  certainly 

7  equally  qualified  for  that. 

8  SENATOR  AANESTAD :   And  I  probably  would  have 

9  voted  for  you.   Thank  you. 

10  MS.  DOUGLAS:   Thank  you. 

11  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   All  right.   Senator 

12  Cedillo,  do  you  have  any  questions? 

13  SENATOR  CEDILLO:   No,  I  think  I'm  fine. 

14  I  just  have  to  say  in  Southern  California, 

15  there  is  a  concern  about  the  limitations  of  the 

16  cap-and- trade  program,  adverse  consequences  for  our 

17  utilities  down  there.   What  can  you  say  to  us  in 

18  Southern  California? 

19  MS.  DOUGLAS:   I  understand  the  concern  very 

20  well,  Senator  Cedillo.   Early  on  in  the  process  of  doing 

21  our  joint  procedure  with  the  PUC,  I  went  to  L.A. 

22  specifically  in  order  to  meet  with  David  Hine  and  met 

23  with  the  general  managers  of  Burbank  and  Anaheim  and 

24  have  made  significant  efforts  to  communicate  and  reach 

25  out  and  understand  the  perspective  of  some  of  the 


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Southern  California  utilities  that  have  the  most 
at  stake.   And  I  do  understand  the  perspective.   From 
their  point  of  view,  SB  1368  has  already  required  that 
the  long-term  coal  contract  cannot  be  renewed.   It's  a 
challenge  to  backfill  from  those  contracts  and  find 
cleaner  --  whether  it's  renewable  or  natural  gas  or 
other  sources  to  replace  those. 

I  think  there  is  a  strong  commitment  among  -- 
certainly  many  of  the  municipal  utilities  to  move 
forward  with  renewables,  so  I  think  it's  really  a  matter 
of  --  The  fundamental  question  is:   How  far,  how  fast? 
How  quickly  do  they  reduce  their  emissions?   What's  a 
reasonable  trajectory?   What  are  the  practical  steps  to 
take  in  order  to  reduce  emissions?   And  a  cap-and- trade 
system  can  be  designed  that  accommodates  that  and  that 
gives  them  the  time  that  they  need  to  do  that,  but  also 
that  holds  them  accountable  for  actually  meeting  those 
goals.   So  I  don't  think  --  I  do  think  it's  possible  to 
design  a  system  that  meets  the  legitimate  needs  of  some 
of  the  utilities  that  are  more  coal -dependent . 

And  the  debate  we're  having  on  this  or  not 
having  on  this  in  California  is  really  a  microcosm  of 
the  things  that  can  happen  nationally  if  we  start 
talking  about  national  cap-and- trade  bill.   The  issues 
are  very  similar. 


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1  So  my  perspective  is  it's  not  about  one  side 

2  prevailing  over  the  other.   It's  about  how  do  you  get  a 

3  reasonable  accommodation  of  needs  and  interests  that 

4  achieves  our  environmental  goals  and  does  so  in  a  way 

5  that  works  for  different  resource  mixes,  because  in  the 

6  country  we  have  very  different  resource  mixes. 

7  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Very  good.   Thank  you. 

8  Let  me  --  I  understand  it's  protocol  on  the 

9  Committee  that  before  we  call  the  witnesses,  or  at  least 

10  before  we're  done,  I  want  to  offer  you  the  opportunity 

11  to  introduce  any  special  guests  or  members  of  your 

12  family,  or  just  anybody  in  the  audience. 

13  MS.  DOUGLAS:   My  family  attempted  to  get  here, 

14  but  they  were  unable  to  do  it,  so  they're  going  to  be 

15  watching  a  recording. 

16  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Very  good. 

17  MS.  DOUGLAS:   But  thank  you  for  that 

18  opportunity. 

19  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Of  course. 

20  Can  we  please  hear  from  the  witnesses  in 

21  support  of  the  nominee,  please.   I  guess  one  at  a  time. 

22  You  can  pull  up  a  third  chair. 

23  MS.  ROME:   Good  afternoon.   I'm  Victoria  Rome 

24  with  the  Natural  Resources  Defense  Council,  NRDC,  and 

25  also  today  on  behalf  of  CLCV,  the  California  League  of 


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Conservation  Voters,  and  we  urge  you  to  confirm  Karen 
Douglas  for  the  Energy  Commission.   She  has  a  record  of 
commitment  to  public  service  through  her  work  at  the  CEC 
so  far,  and  she  did  a  brief  stint  at  NRDC  and  also,  as 
you  know,  at  Planning  and  Conservation  League  and 
Environmental  Defense  Fund. 

She  also  has  a  good  track  record  of  building 
effective  partnerships  with  diverse  stakeholders,  and  we 
think  that's  an  important  role  for  the  Energy  Commission 
at  this  crucial  time,  so  we  believe  we  need  her 
leadership  there  now  more  than  ever.   The  world  is 
watching  California  to  see  what  we  do  and  has  already 
learned  a  lot  from  our  strong  efficiency  policies  and 
global  climate  policy.   Thank  you. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Thank  you,  Ms.  Rome. 

Next  witness . 

MS.  BIGELOW:   Good  afternoon.   I'm  Melve 
Bigelow  here  on  behalf  of  the  Nature  Conservancy,  and  we 
also  strongly  urge  you  to  confirm  Karen  Douglas  for  the 
CEC.   Her  integrity,  her  intelligence,  her  experience, 
are  what  California  needs  in  this  role  right  now.   Thank 
you  . 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Ms.  Douglas  would  like  you 
to  repeat  those  words.   Never  mind.   Thank  you. 

Go  ahead. 


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MS.  VENTURINI:   Rina  Venturini  on  behalf  of 

2  Calpine  Corporation,  and  we  would  also  like  to  encourage 

3  your  support  of  Ms .  Douglas . 

4  Additionally,  Calpine  is  also  very  interested 

5  in  the  work- force  -  training  issue  and  would  like  to  work 

6  with  the  CEC  on  that  as  well. 

7  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Thank  you  very  much. 

8  Any  other  witnesses  in  support?   Are  there 

9  witnesses  in  opposition  to  the  nominee?   If  not,  is 

10  there  a  motion  on  the  bill?   Yes.   Moved  by 

11  Senator  Cedillo. 

12  Let  me  make  a  couple  of  comments  before  we  cast 

13  a  vote.   I  haven't  commended  the  governor  much  in  the 

14  last  24  hours,  so  let  me  take  the  opportunity  to  commend 

15  the  governor  for  appointing  you  to  this  commission.   You 

16  are  clearly  qualified,  you  are  clearly  committed,  and 

17  you  meet  the  statutory  criteria  for  the  attorney  slot 

18  for  the  commission. 

19  One  thing  I  want  to  ask  of  you,  and  then  I'll 

20  make  a  general  comment,  because  this  will  be  the  first 

21  of  many  Energy  Commission  appointees  that  we  have  before 

22  the  Rules  Committee. 

23  My  personal  request  to  you  is  that  you  go  to 

24  school,  so  to  speak,  on  the  dropout  rate  --  you'll  hear 

25  me  say  this  often  in  this  committee  --  and  not  only  on 


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the  dropout  rate,  but  on  the  multiple  pathway  approach 
to  high-school  education  and  its  relationship  to 
alternative  energy.   I  mean  to  really  go  to  school  and 
become  an  expert  and  become  compassionate  about  the  need 
to  make  those  connections  as  early  as  ages  14,  15  for 
young  people  who  otherwise  might  be  a  statistic.   That's 
my  request . 

In  general,  as  it  applies  to  future  appointees, 
this  committee  is  going  to  look  very  carefully  at,  of 
course,  the  relationship  and  mutual  respect  from  the 
executive  branch  and  the  legislative  branch  when  it 
comes  to  not  usurping  our  statutory  authority  to  make 
law . 

We  had  some  controversy  last  year  with  the  CPUC 
that  was  pretty  well  documented,  and  we  want  to  make 
sure  that  you  view  us  as  your  partner  and  not  an  entity 
to  try  to  one-up. 

We  also  expect,  and  this  is  a  frequent 
complaint  from  the  legislature,  that  when  we  ask  for  a 
report,  that  we  receive  the  report  timely.   We  can  only 
make  key  decisions  here  if  we  have  the  information  that 
sometimes  only  you  possess.   Last  year  or  so,  we've  been 
frustrated  by  the  lack  of  reporting,  despite  our 
requests,  on  renewable-energy  transmission,  energy 
de-reg.,  and  the  climate  -  change  -  training  programs,  and 


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we ■ d  ask  you , 

Ms.  Douglas,  to  be  not  only  cognizant  but  very  proactive 

3  about  getting  the  information  that  we  need. 

4  MS.  DOUGLAS:   Thank  you.   I  will  certainly  do 

5  that . 

6  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Thank  you  very,  very  much. 

7  Is  there  a  motion  to  approve  the  nominee?   I'm 

8  sorry,  Senator  Cedillo.   I  apologize. 

9  Let's  call  the  roll. 

10  MS.  BROWN:   Senator  Cedillo. 

11  SENATOR  CEDILLO:   Aye. 

12  MS.  BROWN:   Cedillo  aye. 

13  Dutton. 

14  Oropeza. 

15  SENATOR  OROPEZA:   Aye. 

16  MS.  BROWN:   Oropeza  aye. 

17  Aanestad. 

18  SENATOR  AANESTAD:    No. 

19  MS.  BROWN:   Aanestad  no. 

20  Steinberg. 

21  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Aye. 

22  MS.  BROWN:   Steinberg  aye. 

23  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Congratulations.   Your 

24  nomination  will  now  move  to  the  floor  of  the  California 

25  State  Senate.   We  appreciate  all  your  time  in  preparing 


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for  the  hearing  and  wish  you  the  very  best. 

MS.  DOUGLAS:   Thank  you,  and  I  appreciate  all 
of  your  time  as  well.   Look  forward  to  working  with  all 
of  you. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:  You  too.  Thank  you  very 
much . 

All  right.   Next  we  are  going  to  go  to  the 
governor's  appointees  for  the  State  Board  of  Education. 

I  think  we're  going  to  ask  you  to  come  up 
together,  if  you  would.   James  Aschwanden  and 
Yvonne  Chan  nominated  to  the  State  Board  of  Education. 

MS.  CHAN:   Thank  you. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Welcome. 

Let  me  --  On  the  last  nominee,  I  did  not  make 
sort  of  an  opening  statement,  but  I  would  like  to  when 
it  comes  to  these  issues. 

First  of  all,  I  want  to  welcome  you  and  thank 
you  for  your  public  service  and  your  willingness  to 
consider  --  your  willingness  to  continue  your  public 
service . 

Sort  of  consistent  with  the  last  nominee  and 
some  of  the  comments  you  just  heard  me  say,  I  really 
want  in  this  hearing  to  learn  more  about  what  the  board 
is  doing  not  only  around  the  high  rate  of  dropouts  in 
California,  but  your  views  on  multiple  pathways,  career 


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1 

2 
3 

4 

5 

6 

7 

8 

9 

10 

11 

12 

13 

14 

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17 

18 

19 

20 

21 

22 

23 

24 

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technical  education,  algebra  and  how  we  make  sure  that 
developmentally  disabled  students  succeed.   That's  the 


focus  here,  at  least  my  focus.   Of 

course,  members  ma 

Y 

have  their  own  unique  focus,  and  feel  free  to  jump  in 

at 

any  time.   Why  don't  we  begin  --  I' 

m  sorry. 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:   You  take 

the  lead  on  this 

one  . 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Yeah. 

Well,  I  know 

everybody's  passionate  about  these 

issues,  so  why  don 

'  t 

we  begin  with  Ms.  Chan. 

MS.  CHAN:   Okay.   First  of 

all,  happy  new  year. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Happy 

new  year  to  you. 

MS.  CHAN:   And  thank  you  f 

or  giving  me  this 

opportunity . 

Most  importantly  for  me  is 

I'm  bringing  my 

field  experience  into  the  issue  of 

dropout,  into  the 

issue  of  raising  high  standard,  int 

o  the  issue  of 

instruction,  including  algebra,  et 

cetera,  to  the 

student  of  California. 

So  I  am  a  school  principal 

in  Pacoima,  Alex 

Padilla's  area,  and  have  been  there 

many,  many  years, 

so 

I  face  this  particular  issue,  Senat 

or  Steinberg. 

So  first  and  foremost,  I  want  to  thank  the 

legislature  passing  all  the  bills  that  gave  us  the  tool. 

219,  very  important.   Although  we  h 

ave  a  year  to  roll 

it 

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out,  but  we  must  start  today,  and  therefore  being  able 
to  bring  on  board  strategies  to  --  not  only  accounting 
to  the  eighth  grader,  the  ninth  grader,  five  years,  six 
years,  that's  an  accounting  thing.   That's  fine.   But  at 
the  field,  I  want  to  make  sure  there  are  tools  to  make 
sure  that  this  not  even  happen  to  be  counted,  okay? 

So,  therefore,  step  one,  no  question  to  look  at 
the  score.   I'm  a  principal  of  preschool  through  14  at 


four 

campuses.   I  take 

them 

from  three 

year  old  at  start 

all 

the  way 

to  admission  to 

college . 

So  middle  school, 

I  know  by  sixth  grade, 

seven 

th  grade, 

I ' ve  got  to  do 

some 

thing . 

I  already 

know  w 

ho  are  the 

ones .   It's 

desi 

gnated . 

And  that 

cannot 

happen . 

So, 

therefore 

,  very 

importantly  that  we  build  a 

relationship 

with  the 

parents  and  the 

family,  and  make 

sure 

that  th 

e  communit 

y  embrace  this  c 

hild.   And  also, 

intervention 

and  prevention 

early  on, 

making  sure  that 

the 

curricul 

urn,  the  instruct 

ion,  is  very  relevant, 

assi 

gn  mentors,  and  ma 

ke  sure  the  kids 

go  into  advisory 

on  a 

daily  b 

asis .   So 

middle 

school  starts  very 

important . 

Then  as  we  move  the 

students 

--  understand  I 

have 

a  high 

school  too 

I  k 

now  Johnie 

since  three  years 

old. 

He  just  may  not 

be  the 

one  that ■ 

s  going  to  go  to 

U.  C. 

,  okay? 

So  career 

tech 

and  multip 

le  path,  that  is 

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1  very  important.   And  we  cannot  wait  until  they  fail  in 

2  tenth  grade,  especially  children  with  disability  and 

3  English  learners.   So,  again,  map  it  back  where  career 

4  tech.   Sounds  pretty  much  like  kindergarten,  okay? 

5  So  as  they  go  through  the  grade,  kind  of  take 

6  the  student's  interests.   Make  sure  the  family  support. 

7  Make  sure  that  the  school  embrace  this  child  as  a  whole 

8  child.   Take  them  through  the  career  tech. 

9  In  my  area,  we  have  construction.   I  know  you 

10  ask  a  question  about  green.   Some  of  us,  with  the  help 

11  of  joint  ventures,  are  doing  recyclable  energy  at  the 

12  tenth  grade  level.   We  support.   And  another  class  is  -- 

13  oh,  green  build.   Wonderful.   I  mean,  all  the 

14  tradespeople.   This  Pacoima.   My  parents  are  day 

15  laborers.   They  know  this  stuff.   My  kids  know  this 

16  stuff.   They  help  the  parents  stacking  bricks  since  they 

17  are  six  years  old.   So,  really,  having  to  rebuild  course 

18  for  ninth  grader,  which  is  a  math  class.   It's. a  math 

19  class.   Make  sure  you  have  the  standard.   They  can  read 

20  the  manuals . 

21  And  for  those  that  are  interested  in  the  arts, 

22  then  we  create  green  media,  theater  arts  and  all  the 

23  media  arts,  to  give  the  message  in  all  kinds  of 

24  languages . 

25  So  these  are  the  ways  --  and  I  know  the  algebra 


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is  going  to  come  up,  and  let  me  answer  that  first, 
unless,  Jim,  you  want  to  do  that,  you  want  to  answer 
that .   Okay . 

I  hold  high  standards .   And  I  have  to  say 
California  has  been  very  good  to  me,  because  I  came  to 
this  country  age  17  the  clothes  on  my  back.   Not  much 
English,  but  I  learned  to  speak  Spanish  first,  the 
language  in  Fresno,  so  I  got  to  make  sure  that  the 
students  reach  those  standards  and  achieve  wellness. 

Having  said  that,  my  actions  speaks  more  than 
my  words.   At  my  school,  Pacoima,  100  percent 
free/reduced  lunch,  78  percent  English  learner, 
95  percent  walk  in  kindergarten  not  a  word  of  English, 
okay.   And  all  Hispanic/African- American  kids. 

What  I've  done  in  the  three  years  is  every 
single  eighth  grader's  in  algebra.   Oh  my  God!   Now 
every  one  of  them  in  there .   Took  me  three  years .   I 
went  from  8  percent  proficient  to  32  percent  proficient 
now.   But  it  took  a  lot  of  time,  a  lot  of  effort,  a  lot 
of  coordination,  a  lot  of  resources  to  get  there. 

And  I  know  also  I  keep  telling  my  kids  that, 
you  know,  algebra  is  not  in  the  DNA  of  Asians.   I  did 
pretty  well.   Most  people  said  the  Asians  did  well  in 
math;  but  no,  you  know,  my  kids  can  learn  it.   My 
students  in  Pacoima  can  learn  it. 


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So  now,  as  I'm  looking  at  --  I  hold  high 

2  standards,  and  I  believe  my  kids  can  learn  over  time. 

3  Three  years  is  not  going  to  do  it.   Six  years,  maybe  ten 

4  years.   So  what  I  need  to  do  is  looking  at  the  time  and 

5  looking  at,  yeah,  resources.   We  don't  have  no  money 

6  now,  so  it's  hard  to  take  about  any  green  bags,  okay? 

7  But  resources  in  terms  of  human  capital. 

8  Now  I'm  a  charter  school  principal,  and  we  have 

9  learned  very  strategically  how  to  deploy,  and  I'm  so 

10  glad  we  have  flexibility,  hopefully,  from  all  of  you, 

11  wherever,  if  charter  schools  have  some  of  it.   Is  human 

12  capital -wise ,  what  took  me  this  last  three  years 

13  invested,  yes,  with  every  kid  in  algebra,  is  that  we  map 

14  back  the  standards  back  to  third  grade  again,  and  making 

15  sure  the  elementary  teachers  work  with  my  middle  school 

16  teachers.   They  trade  the  job  a  day  or  two  while  manage 

17  and  hold  the  class  down  as  the  principal  substitute  for 

18  the  day,  okay? 

19  So  these  are  the  things  that  can  be  done 

20  looking  at  assessment.   Oh  my  God!   My  fourth  grade 

21  teachers.   What  do  you  mean?   The  kids  don't  have  to 

22  take  --  attempt  any  of  the  items  and  still  be 

23  proficient.   How  could  that  be?   We've  got  to  shake  that 

24  up,  straighten  that  out. 

25  And  then,  of  course,  the  professional 


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development,  the  other  ideas  that  we  can  do  in  human 
capital,  recruiting  the  right  people,  placing  the  right 
teachers,  as  well  work  with  the  families  to  kind  of  put 
that  standard  up. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Thank  you  very  much, 
Dr.  Chan.   I  appreciate  your  passion.   Love  it.   See  why 
you're  an  educator. 

Okay.   Mr.  Aschwanden,  welcome. 

MR.  ASCHWANDEN:   Thank  you. 

Before  I  start,  I  have  to  give  you  some  of 
my  background  so  that  you'll  understand  the  context  of 
my  responses  to  these  questions. 

I'm  a  product  of  a  high  school  --  a  time  when 
college-prep  kids  could  take  career-tech  education,  and 
I  consider  myself  very  fortunate  for  that  experience. 
I'm  a  product  of  career-tech  education.   I  have  been  a 
high-school-classroom  teacher  for  17  years.   I've  served 
as  executive  director  of  California  Ag .  Teachers 
Association  for  the  past  16. 

The  dropout  issue  is  particularly  important  to 
me,  because  I  think  there's  a  lot  of  misunderstanding 
and  a  lot  of  misassumptions  about  the  dropout  rate.   We 
know  that  looking  at  dropout  rates  doesn't  tell  the 
whole  story.   Harvard  and  other  UCLA  studies  have  told 
us  the  vast  majority  of  dropouts  are  B-minus  students. 


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J  They're  not  failing.   They're  walking.   They  find  no 
relevance.   They're  not  hooked.   They're  not  engaged. 

3  And  so  this  idea  that  dropout  means  failure,  these  kids 

4  aren't  necessarily  failing. 

5  I  think  there's  been  some  great  steps.   219 

6  actually  kind  of  gets  us  into  looking  at  how  we  track 

7  dropouts . 

8  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Can  you  explain  219.   I 

9  know  it,  because  I  authored  it,  but  just  -- 

10  MR.  ASCHWANDEN:   The  bill  --  SB  219  I  think  is 

11  a  huge  step  forward,  because  it  really  does  a  number  of 

12  things.   First  of  all,  it  tracks  student  data,  including 

13  test  scores  and  dropouts,  wherever  kids  go  once  they're 

14  put  into  alternative  education.   That  kind  of 

15  accountability  tracks  back,  which  is  really,  really 

16  good. 

17  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   To  the  school  of  origin. 

18  The  school  of  origin  is  responsible  for  the  test  score 

19  of  the  kid  that  gets  moved  on  to  alternative  education. 

20  MR.  ASCHWANDEN:   It  also,  for  the  first  time, 

21  takes  a  look  at  students  who  drop  out  in  eight  and  ninth 

22  grade. 

23  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    In  the  API. 

24  MR.  ASCHWANDEN:    In  the  API. 

25  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   I'm  just  helping  you. 


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MS.  CHAN:   Thank  you. 

MR.  ASCHWANDEN:  That  statistic  is  easier  to 
track  than  the  kids  that  drop  out  in  the  eleventh  and 
twelfth,  because  as  far  as  SB  219  goes,  there's  still 
some  uncharted  territory,  because  a  student  who  drops 
out  in  the  eighth  or  ninth  grade  is  pretty  easy  to 
identify . 

If  they  move  from  a  comprehensive  high  school 
into  most  forms  of  alternative  education,  the  data  will 
follow  them,  which  is  the  design  of  219.   But  there's 
still  limbo  land,  because  if  you  drop  out  or  if  you  move 
from  a  comprehensive  high  school  to  adult  education,  you 
step  off  the  cliff  and  you  become  an  unknown.   And  so  we 
still  don't  --  We  have  a  dropout  rate  that  very 
interestingly  went  from  24  to  21-1/2  percent  in  a  matter 
of  a  month  with  the  same  population  of  kids,  and  we 
still  have  a  disappearance  rate  or  a  gap  between  those 
who  entered  school  and  those  who  graduated  of  about 
3  3  percent . 

So  as  we  move  forward,  as  positive  as  SB  219 
was,  I  think  we  still  have  some  challenges  to  play  it 
straight  on  what  is  happening  to  our  kids  and  what  we 
can  do  to  reengage  them  if  we  know  they're  walking 
because  they're  not  engaged,  because  school  is  not 
relevant.   I  think  we  have  a  duty  to  follow  up  on  that 


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and  to  follow  up  on  all  the  numbers,  not  just  the  ones 
that  are  easiest  to  track. 

3  In  terms  of  career-tech  education,  I  can  tell 

4  you  I  was  a  passionate  supporter  of  career  tech  all  my 

5  life.   It  gets  pretty  easy  to  offer  that  up  as  a 

6  panacea.   It  is  not.   The  challenge  is  to  engage 

7  students  in  an  education  process  that  engages  them  and 

8  hooks  them. 

9  I  want  to  use  the  green  energy  example,  because 

10  I  think  it  really  more  mirrors  what  my  experience  has 

11  been  in  career  tech. 

12  In  the  ag  industry  --  In  an  ag  education,  we're 

13  not  trying  to  train  the  next  generation  of  field  hands 

14  or  production  workers.   The  ag  industry  and  ag  education 

15  for  the  past  30  years  has  recognized  that  we  need  to 

16  attract  every  kind  of  student  to  meet  different 

17  employment  opportunities  across  the  band.   And  as  we 

18  start  talking  about  the  green-energy  industry,  we  ought 

19  not  to  be  talking  about  the  potential  dropouts.   We 

20  ought  to  also  be  talking  about  the  kid  who  is  brilliant 

21  and  bright,  and  who  is  a  4.0  superachiever  who  is  hooked 

22  at  an  early  age  and  has  access  to  those  programs  like 

23  construction  technology,  that  he  may  not  have  the  same 

24  interests,  employment  goals,  down  the  line.   But  we 

25  don't  have  a  way  anymore,  I  believe,  of  offering 


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adequate  access  to  all  kids  who  wish  to  engage  in  career 
tech  experiences  like  I  did.   In  my  generation,  you 
could  do  both.   You  could  be  that  college-prep  kid  that 
still  had  time  in  their  curricular  mode  to  access  career 
tech  . 

The  challenge  for  all  of  us  is:   Let's  look 
beyond  the  student  population  going  into  career  tech 
that  is  just  the  technician- level  kid.   But  these 
industries,  these  jobs,  and  these  careers  are  going  to 
need  to  engage  every  kind  of  student,  and  that's  where  I 
think  a  career-tech  discussion  gets  very  interesting. 

I'm  just  going  to  keep  rolling  on  that 
unless  -- 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   No.   That's  good.   Why 
don't  we  --  you  guys  --  People  who  are  passionate  can 
talk  forever,  but  let's  get  to  the  questions  here.   I 
want  to  begin  --  I  really  want  to  cover  three  areas. 

Colleagues,  you  can  follow  up  or  go  into  your 
own  areas . 

I  want  to  talk  about  algebra;  I  want  to  talk 
about  219  and  its  implementation;  and  I  want  to  talk 
about  special  education  in  the  developmentally  disabled. 
Okay  . 

I  want  to  begin  with  algebra,  where  I  know  that 
two  respected  board  members  came  down  differently  on  the 


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controversial  eighth-grade-algebra  requirement  that  the 
State  Board  of  Education  passed  last  year. 

I  suppose  my  question  really  is  directed  to 
Dr.  Chan,  although,  Mr.  Aschwanden,  you  can  weigh  in  if 
you  like  as  well. 

I  want  to  ask  it  this  way:   What  is  your  view 
on  the  State  imposing  unfunded  mandates?   Do  you  have  a 
general  view  of  the  State  imposing  unfunded  mandates? 

MS.  CHAN:   As  a  school  person  who  has  to  do 
these  mandates,  of  course  I  scratch  my  head  and  say,  How 
am  I  going  to  ever  do  that?   Meanwhile,  on  my  human 
side,  when  I  see  my  kids  who  has  the  readiness  to  learn 
algebra  and  I  cannot  put  them  in  a  class,  then  I  say, 
Well,  I  have  to  convince  the  teacher  teach  that  kid,  or 
I  will  teach  him  myself. 

So,  therefore,  when  you're  looking  at  all  kinds 
of  mandate  coming  from  the  State,  whether  --  for  me, 
it's  head  lice.   You  know,  exclude  the  kid  with  head 
lice.   I  have  plenty  of  those.   I  said,  Oh  my  gosh!   How 
am  I  going  to  do  that?   But  in  my  heart,  I  will  go  to 
home  and  clean  those  head  lice. 

So  that  is  my  point  of  view,  is  --  Like  I  said, 
I  already  said  it.   I  believe  in  high  standards,  and  I 
believe  eventually  all  kids  will  be  able  to  learn  the 
algebra  standard.   So  many  of  my  kids,  I  promise,  they 


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may  not  understand  why  they  want  to  learn,  and  that's  my 
fault,  because  A  plus  Y  and  A  plus  C  squared  and  all 
that  is,  again,  for  us  very  early  on  to  let  the  kids 
know  you  deal  with  variables.   Life  is  about  dealing 
with  variables. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   I  understand.   Let  me,  if 
I  may,  follow  up,  because  I  think  what  you  really 
just  --  what  you  really  expressed  here  again  is  your 
passion  as  a  school  superintendent,  as  a  principal,  as 
someone  who  has  demonstrated  that  you  can  always 
overcome  the  odds,  and  every  kid  can.   And  I  get  that. 
But  we're  now  talking  about  your  policy  making  role  as  a 
member  of  the  State  Board  of  Education. 

Do  you  believe  there ' s  a  relationship 
between  -- 

MS.  CHAN:   Resources. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   You're  darn  right. 

--  between  resources  and  the  policy  decisions 
you  make?   Because  the  criticism,  of  course,  of  that 
decision  is  that  it  may  be  fine  to  set  that  high 
standard,  but  in  this  fiscal  climate,  and  even  outside 
this  fiscal  climate,  where  is  the  willingness  or  push 
from  the  State  Board  or  anyone  else  to  actually  fund  the 
necessary  teachers,  to  train  the  necessary  teachers,  to 
ensure  every  child  can  actually  take  advantage  of  that. 


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That  disconnect  troubles  me,  I  know,  as  one  member  of 
the  Rules  Committee. 

3  So  I  guess  I'll  ask  it  in  a  more  pointed  way. 

4  MS.  CHAN:   Sure. 

5  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   How  do  you  reconcile 

6  voting  for  that  measure,  well  intended  as  it  may  be, 

7  when  there's  no  money  to  implement  it? 

8  MS.  CHAN:   Okay.   As  I  reflect  on  the 

9  reality  --  but  I  wanted  to  keep  pushing  the  young  fellow 

10  over  time.   I  am  puzzled  with  a  three-year  or  four-year 

11  timeline.   However,  I  personally  feel  six,  ten  years 

12  rolled  out,  starting  back  in  third  grade  right  now  -- 

13  hopefully  third  grade  doesn't  cost  me  anything  right 

14  now  --  and  move  and  hope  the  economy  gets  better. 

15  Right  now,  basically  I  can  just  say  sitting  on 

16  my  hands  --  I  started  that  three-year  goal  with  my  own 

17  kids.   So  to  back  map  it  is  to  say,  Look,  I  need  the 

18  time.   So  my  policy  is  still  say,  Look,  time  and  human 

19  resources,  and  then  fiscal  resources. 

20  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Mr.  Aschwanden,  why  did 

21  you  vote  against  it? 

22  MR.  ASCHWANDEN:   I  voted  against  it  because  I 

23  didn't  believe  it  was  the  best  interest  of  students  in 

24  California  to  redefine  failure  and  welcome  more  students 

25  to  experience  it. 


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I  want  kids  to  be  successful  when  they  take 
algebra,  whenever  that  is.   If  they  take  it  in  seventh 
grade,  eighth  grade,  ninth  grade,  tenth  grade,  doesn't 
matter  much  to  me.   What  does  matter  a  lot  is  that 
they're  successful  at  it  when  they  take  it,  because 
algebra  really  is  that  gateway  math  course  that  sets  the 
tone  for  what  follows.   And  you  get  back  to  the  dropout 
rate .   The  number  one  indicator  for  dropping  out  of  high 
school  is  failing  Algebra  1. 

This  discussion  shouldn't  be  about  algebra  in 
eighth  grade.   It  ought  to  be  about  what  they're  doing 
in  fourth,  fifth,  and  sixth.   If  the  end  goal  is  to 
really  get  kids  ready  for  algebra  at  an  earlier  age  in 
California,  then  that's  what  the  discussion  should  have 
been  . 

This  kind  of  strategy  for  putting  an  atomic 
bomb  in  place  and  daring  you  to  run  through  the  building 
before  it  goes  off  has  got  to  stop  in  education.   I 
think  we  need  to  quit  beating  up  on  kids  and  find  ways 
to  move  them  along  earlier  and  better  if  we  can. 

I  have  a  niece  who  took  algebra  in  seventh 
grade,  geometry,  and  she's  going  to  take  a  placement 
exam  at  CSU  and  get  tested  on  principles  that  she  had  in 
eighth  grade.   I  don't  know  if  that's  any  better  than 
the  tenth  grade  algebra  class  that  my  brother  took, 


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because  that's  when  he  was  ready  for  it,  who  is  now  a 
very  successful  businessman  and  has  a  master's  in  ag 

3  economics  from  Fresno  State  University. 

4  There  isn't  one  universal  path  to  enlightenment 

5  that  every  kid  steps  on  at  the  same  time,  and  that's  why 

6  I  voted  "No,"  Senator. 

7  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    I'm  going  to  allow  my 

8  colleagues  to  pick  up  on  this.   You'll  get  a  chance. 

9  Let  me  move  to  the  other  two  areas,  and  then  we'll  take 

10  it  around  the  circle  and  members  can  pick  up  on  any  of 

11  these  topics. 

12  Back  to  219.   The  law  says  now  that  the  State 

13  Board  of  Education  is  empowered  with  the  authority  to 

14  determine  what  percentage  of  the  API,  beginning  in  2011, 

15  should  a  four -year- graduation  rate  constitute  as  part  of 

16  the  API,  and  for  eighth  and  ninth  graders,  what 

17  percentage  of  the  API  should  be  the  eighth-  and  ninth- 

18  grade  dropout  rates . 

19  It  would  be  easy,  and,  frankly,  it  is  my  fear 

20  that  the  board  will  take  the  position  that  testing  is  so 

21  important  that  therefore  this  issue  of  who  is  staying  in 

22  school  and  actually  moving  forward  will  be  a  1  percenter 

23  or  a  2  percenter  as  opposed  to  a  more  significant 

24  percentage . 

25  Can  you  give  me  some  assurances  here  that  this 


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isn't  going  to  be  treated  in  sort  of  a  diminimus  way  so 
that  the  law,  once  it's  actually  implemented  in  2011, 
won't  mean  anything. 

MS.  CHAN:   The  law  stated  that  60  percent 
will  be  in  test  scores,  and  I  have  taken  quite  a  bit  of 
initiative  to  bring  to  the  board  and  discuss  with  my 
fellow  board  member,  who  are  all  here,  who  are  all 
here  --  please  stand.   They're  there.   They're  all 
here  so  --  about  the  API  issue.   So  putting  currently 
100  percent  in  test  score  is  almost,  hate  to  say,  like 
the  old  Roman  empire,  "Do  or  die, "  you  know,  "Up  or 
down, "  on  a  one-time  test  score. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Where  does  graduation 
rank,  in  your  view? 

MS.  CHAN:   In  my  view,  at  least  at  5  percent  or 
more,  because  40  percent  you  have  attendance  in  there, 
which  you're  still  working  on.   There's  a  very  important 
issue  from  the  Committee  of  English  Learners  about  the 
test  scores,  because  right  now  they  get  no  credit  on 
moving  the  kids  into,  you  know,  English  proficiency. 

Definitely,  the  whole  notion  in  special 
education  --  I  believe  that  is  going  to  be  a  big 
conversation  --  it  should  not  take  years,  within  this 
short  window,  on  exactly  the  40  percent  --  what  I'm 
saying  is  we  have  40  percent  to  play  with. 


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CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   I'm  not  sure  5  percent  is 
enough,  but  I  appreciate  your  -- 


MS.  CHAN: 

What  would  you  like? 

CHAIRMAN 

STEINBERG:   I  don't  know  exactly.   I 

j  ust 

want  to  make 

sure  that  what  counts  matters,  and  I 

want 

to  make  sure 

it  counts . 

MS.  CHAN: 

I  think  we  want  to  make  sure  the 

valid 

ity  and  relia 

bility  is  there.   You  can  try  for 

more  . 

And  who  sai 

d  you  cannot  increase  that? 

CHAIRMAN 

STEINBERG:   Mr.  Aschwanden,  same 

question . 

MR.  ASCHWANDEN:   Senator,  we  actually  had  a 

prett 

y  robust  discussion  this  morning  and  an  overview  of 

this 

whole  evolution  of  what  the  API  has  been  in  the 

past , 

what  it  is  now,  and  what  it's  going  to  be  in  the 

future .   And  I  fee 

1  a  lot  better  after  hearing  the 

discussion  today, 

because  I  think  there ' s  a  genuine 

interest  among  the 

vast  majority  of  the  board  to  really 

desig 

n  something  that's  better  than  what  we've  had, 

inclu 

ding  -- 

We  have  a 

lot  of  really  good  questions  about 

access  issues,  and 

measuring  what  kind  of  programs 

schoo 

Is  offer,  and 

looking  at  that.   And  so  I  think 

there 

's  genuine  interest  among  the  board  in  terms  of  -- 

You  k 

now,  what  a  p 

ercentage  might  look  like,  I  can't 

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answer  that  right  now;  but  I  can  tell  you  that  there  is 
legitimate  interest. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Okay.    Last  area.    The 
special  ed.  area,  and  this  one  bothers  me,  and  I'm  sure 
it  bothers  others  as  well,  because  right  now  we  go 
through  this  annual  dance  here  in  the  legislature  where 
there  are  bills  that  try  to  waive  the  CAHSEE  requirement 
for  special  ed.  students.   There's  a  local  waiver 
process  that's  a  hassle  for  parents  and  kids,  and  it's 
real  undefined.   And  I  know  in  my  district,  I  go  to 
McClatchy  High  School,  and  I  meet  with  the  students  and 
teachers.   You  know,  people  are  trying  so  darned  hard  to 
succeed,  and  there's  dedicated  teachers,  and,  you  know, 
there's  a  lot  of  frustration. 

At  the  same  time,  the  law  allows  the  State 
Board  of  Education  to  develop  alternative  assessments, 
and  alternative  to  the  CAHSEE  for  students  who  may  not 
be  able  to  take  a  written  test  but  would  still 
demonstrate  proficiency  in  the  subjects,  and  nobody,  it 
seems  to  me,  either  has  the  will  or  whatever  to  actually 
put  such  an  assessment  into  place  so  we  don't  have  to  go 
through  this  every  year. 

So  you're  now  on  the  hot  seat  here.  Why  isn't 
that  happening,  and  what  are  you  going  to  do  to  make  it 
happen? 


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L  MR.  ASCHWANDEN:   I'll  respond  first.   I  share 

your  frustration,  because  I've  always  thought  it  was 

3  important  to  know  what  kids  can  do  is  what  they  know, 

4  and  that  when  you  deal  with  authentic  assessment  and 

5  having  a  real  glimpse  of  what  students  can  do  and  what 

6  they  know,  it's  a  challenge  when  you  have  an  instrument 

7  like  the  high-school  exit  exam  standing  in  the  middle  of 

8  all  that. 

9  On  one  hand,  I  understand  the  frustration.   I 

10  think  it's  shared  by  members  of  the  board.   There  is  a 

11  process  that's  evolving  for  special  ed.  students  who  can 

12  take  the  test  with  modifications,  and  we  have  supported 

13  that.   And  there's  also  a  process  now  in  place,  probably 

14  not  happening  fast  enough,  but  there  is  a  panel  that 

15  will  come  to  us  this  year  to  identify  a  process  by  which 

16  special  ed.  students  who  have  met  every  other 

17  requirement,  but  they  can't  --  In  other  words,  they've 

18  taken  all  their  course  work,  they've  gotten  all  their 

19  credits,  they  still  can't  pass  CAHSEE,  even  using  the 

20  combinations  that  have  been  in  their  educational  plan. 

21  There  is  going  to  be  an  alternative  assessment  process. 

22  I  don't  know  what  that  looks  like  yet,  Senator. 

23  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   When? 

24  MR.  ASCHWANDEN:   The  panel  is  supposed  to  make 

25  recommendations  to  us  in  October  '09. 


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CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Another  year,  another 
graduating  class,  another  hassle  here  in  the  legislature 
around  what  we  do  for  and  with  these  kids. 

MR.  ASCHWANDEN:   I  understand  the  frustration. 
My  only  response  is  --  I'll  share  the  response  that  has 
been  given  to  us.   The  testing  gurus  that  will  respond 
to  that  will  say  it's  very  important  to  ensure  that 
these  alternative  assessments  are  designed  in  a  way  that 
create  the  same  validity  across  the  measures  and  that 
that  takes  time  and  it  takes  money,  and  the  time  element 
is  frustrating  to  all  of  us .   I  don't  know  how  else  to 
respond  to  that,  Senator. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Fair  enough. 

MS.  CHAN:   Being  a  teacher  of  special  education 
for  many,  many  years  myself,  I  certainly  understand  -- 
you  know,  I  certainly  --  actually  know  a  number  of  ways 
to  provide  this  alternative  and  find  out  if  the  kids  are 
doing  well  or  not. 

Though  the  law  right  now  --  The  Fabian  bill 
gives  a  year  and  a  half,  but  right  now,  they  already 
contracted  to  identify  these  kids. 

My  understanding  is  about  5  percent  of  the 
special  ed.  kids  are  on  track.   The  only  thing  standing 
in  their  way  is  CAHSEE.   They  have  all  the  other 
classes.   The  other  one,  they  don't  have  the  credits. 


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!  They're  not  at  that  stage. 

2  So  when  we  focus  on  this  5  percent,  the  panel 

3  is  rolling  out  and  I  recommended  to  CE  just  today  before 

4  we  walk  over  here,  Let's  not  rehash.   We  had  a  committee 

5  a  year  and  a  half  ago,  and  we  already  came  in  with 

6  special  ed.  commission  with  nine  different  ways  beyond 

7  the  accommodation  and  modification. 

8  Example,  this  child  failed  language  arts  but 

9  make  math.   Can  you  do  a  composite  score?   Can  they  take 

10  portion  of  it  and  then  make  it  cumulative  instead  of 

11  going  through  the  whole  seating?   There  are  nine 

12  different  ways  right  there.   Let's  don't  rehash 

13  everything,  because  many  of  these  are  already 

14  research-based. 

15  Meanwhile,  a  glimpse  now,  Senator,  is  it  took 

16  us  two  years .   Right  now  we  do  have  a  California 

17  modified  assessment  of  children  with  disabilities,  okay? 

18  So  we  rolled  it  out  last  year  in  third  grade,  third 

19  grade  through  fifth  grade.   This  coming  year  will  be  all 

20  middle  school,  including  eighth  grade  and  tenth  --  not 

21  tenth  grade.   And  then  we  roll  out  to  the  high  school. 

22  Now  this  modified  assessment  that's  already  in 

23  place,  valid,  piloted,  already  in  API  this  year,  already 

24  in  API  this  year,  can  very  well  --  portion  of  it  can 

25  very  well  be  that  alternative  in  the  future,  but  my 


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worry  is  we  say,  "Let's  create  a  new  one."   New  one 
sometimes  takes  so  long,  because  the  feds  said  that 
whatever  alternative  you  have,  the  students  still  held 
to  the  standard.   It's  the  same  standard.   It's  a 
different  way  of  showing  it. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Okay.   Thank  you  very 
much . 

Before  we  take  questions,  Ina,  are  you  doing 
okay?   Do  you  need  a  break? 

THE  REPORTER:    (Nods  head.) 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   It's  been  an  hour  and  a 
half.   Let's  take  a  break.   Let's  take  ten  minutes  -- 
and  we'll  take  questions  from  the  members  --  and  we'll 
come  right  back,  okay?   Thank  you. 

(Recess  taken . ) 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:  Why  don't  we  begin  with  - 
good.   We're  back.   Rules  Committee  is  back  in  session. 

Why  don't  we  begin  with  Senator  Aanestad.   Do 
you  have  any  questions? 

SENATOR  AANESTAD:    (Shakes  head.) 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   No  questions. 

Senator  Oropeza. 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:  Yes.  I'd  just  like  to  ask  a 
little  bit  about  what  is  my  passion  and  deep  concern  in 
education,  and  that  is  the  achievement  gap,  the  gap 


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between  people  who  have  the  same  brain,  have  the  same 
brain  matter.   One  of  them  is  African-American,  one  of 


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is  Hispanic,  one  of  them  is  Asian,  one  of  them  is 

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o,  and  somehow  they  are,  according  to  our 

assessments,  not  achieving  at  the  same  level.   There  are 

gaps 

in  that  achievement . 

I'd  like  to  ask  you,  each  of  you,  what  you 

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k  are  the  elements  or  the  contributing  factors  to 

that 

achievement  gap. 

MS.  CHAN:    I  start? 

MR.  ASCHWANDEN:   Sorry. 

MS.  CHAN:    (To  the  reporter) :   Slow  it  down.   I 

will 

Okay. 

So  spanning  of  40  years  as  teacher  and 

administrator,  and  also  I'm  in  Pacoima,  okay,  so  I  am 

look 

ing  at  --  definitely  lot  of  my  kids,  either  they 

lack 

the  preschool  education  or  they  just  do  not  have 

the 

readiness  to  accelerate  like  everybody  else.   I'm 

talk 

ing  about  a  population  from  Pacoima.   For  example, 

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100  percent  free  and  reduced  lunch;  I'm  99  percent 

Engl 

ish  learner  -- 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:   Of  those  factors,  which  are 

the 

ones  that  you  think  contribute  to  the  gap? 

MS.  CHAN:   Lack  of  preschool  and  school 

read 

iness.   That's  one. 

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SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Okay. 

MS.  CHAN:   Second  is  lack  of  the  full  range  of 
support  services  for  these  students.   And  I  know  people 
say,  "Well,  let's  focus  on  something."   There's 
healthcare,  dental  care,  and  for  me  there's  a  head  lice 
problem,  so  all  of  the  other  human  services  that  must 
link  to  support  the  whole  child.   So  that's  second. 

Third,  the  third  reason  is  the  quality  of 
instruction  in  some  of  the  schools.   And  I'm  very 
honest,  you  know,  because  I'm  always  in  that  kind  of 
area  where  I  have  a  difficult  time  in  delivering  quality 
instruction,  because  I  may  not  have  a  quality  staff, 
including  quality  administration. 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:   So  that's  what  you  mean  by 
lack  of  quality  instruction? 

MS.  CHAN:   Um-hmm. 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    It's  not  the  people  power  to 
do  it.   Yes? 

MS.  CHAN:   Correct.   It's  not  a  credential 
thing.   It's  just  that  I  don't  have  the  culture  or  the 
mission,  the  urgency,  and  we  happen  to  be  the  same 
school  that's  serving  the  once  most  disenfranchised. 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Okay. 

MS.  CHAN:   The  last  thing  is  definitely  lack  of 
articulation  from  preschool  to  16.   That  is  why  the 


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!  pre-16  commission  has  seen  --  some  of  the  statistics  are 

2  in,  that  is  crucial,  because  we  keep  on  dropping  the 

3  ball. 

4  SENATOR  OROPEZA:   Could  you  elaborate  a  little 

5  bit  on  that  last  point,  the  lack  of  articulation  between 

6  K-5  and  then  middle  school  and  high  school? 

7  MS.  CHAN:   Let's  start  with  preschool.   You 

8  have  State  preschool  money,  Head  Start,  great  preschool 

9  programs.   When  they  get  into  kindergarten,  scratch 

10  their  head.   There  was  no  communication.   Bam.   Okay. 

11  So  especially  come  from  preschool  that  articulate  or 

12  even  house  in  elementary.   That  is  a  given.   Especially 

13  student  with  disability  or  student  who  are  English 

14  learner.   They're  the  crying  kindergartners .   Let's  move 

15  them  into  kindergarten  on  the  same  site.   Instead  we 

16  start  all  over  all  the  time. 

17  SENATOR  OROPEZA:   I'd  rather  talk  about  the 

18  regular  kid  -- 

19  MS.  CHAN:   I'm  getting  to  next. 

20  SENATOR  OROPEZA:   --  regular  Hispanic  kid  and 

21  the  regular  Asian  kid,  not  somebody  with  a  developmental 

22  disability. 

23  MS.  CHAN:   When  they  finish  elementary,  fourth, 

24  fifth,  at  that  time  some  of  them  are  already  not  meeting 

25  grade-level  standards.   That  become  a  double  whammy . 


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Class  size  go  up.   Teachers  teach  in  strict  --  more 
lecture  style . 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:   And  we're  doing  social 
promotion,  or  what  category  -- 

MS.  CHAN:   Yes,  social  promotion.   Not  that  I 
believe  in  retention,  Senator.   I  believe  in  the 
intervention  and  the  prevention  early  on. 

So  now  when  you  get  into  the  middle  school,  all 
heck  breaks  loose.   That's  where  dropout  starts,  and 
it's  impossible  to  go  back  and  mend  all  those  years. 

Therefore,  really,  a  K-12  or  P-16  --  For  me,  I 
solved  them.   I'm  the  principal  of  all  ages.   I  taught 
the  kids  from  three -year-old  all  the  way  up  to  community 
college,  and  I  have  the  relationship  with  the  parents. 
I  think  that's  the  design.   Los  Angeles  Unified  is  doing 
one.   The  Ambassador  Hotel  site,  they're  going  to  do 
K-12  . 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:   I  was  going  to  say,  do  you 
think  that's  what  we  should  do  is  K-12,  and  there's  not 
an  articulation  issue  because  you've  got  the  same  people 
dealing  with  the  kids  all  along? 

MS.  CHAN:   That's  right.   I  move  my 
kindergarten  teacher  to  first  grade  and  move  the  sixth 
grade  to  ninth  grade . 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:   Okay.   Thank  you. 


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1  MR.  ASCHWANDEN:   Yes,  Senator.   I've  always 

2  tried  to  approach  this  and  tried  to  explain  to  people 

3  what  -  - 

4  The  achievement  gap  is  reflective,  in  my  mind, 

5  of  a  very  clear  opportunity  gap  that  exists  for  students 

6  to  have  the  same  resources,  the  same  support,  and  access 

7  to  high-quality  educational  experiences.   In  too  many 

8  cases  the  achievement  gap  is  almost  related  to  a  zip 

9  code,  and  it's  easy  to  fall  into  the  trap  that  it's  just 

10  a  matter  of  where  the  school  is  -- 

11  SENATOR  OROPEZA:   If  you  can  be  as  specific  as 

12  you  can.   When  you  say  "resources, "  what  does  that  mean? 

13  MR.  ASCHWANDEN:    In  the  case  of  students  who 

14  are  experiencing  this  opportunity  gap  --  I  was  at  a 

15  hearing  in  Richmond,  and  all  the  board  spoke  for  a 

16  couple  hours,  and  as  they  all  left  to  take  early  flights 

17  home,  the  kids  started  talking  about  why  they  were 

18  disengaged  in  school,  and  student  after  student  came  up 

19  and  said,  "We  have  no  electives  here.   There's  no  school 

20  newspaper  that  is  supported  on  a  reasonable  basis."   And 

21  kid  after  kid  talked  about  the  lack  of  experiences  that 

22  many  California  students  take  for  granted.   The  ability 

23  to  come  to  school  and  have  teachers  that  have  a  lot  of 

24  years  of  experience.   When  you  find  an  achievement  gap, 

25  you  will  invariably  find  teachers  who  tend  to  have  not 


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as  much  experience,  who  tend  to  want  to  leave  those 
schools  as  quickly  as  possible. 

We  know  some  of  the  symptoms  of  the  problem. 
What  we're  struggling  with,  quite  frankly,  Senator,  is 
how  to  effectively  address  it.   I  think  as  a  school 
board,  we've  done  some  things  that  are  very  positive. 
We  have  an  English  language  advisory  committee  in  place 
now.   This  morning  we  approved  an  African- American 
advisory  committee  specifically  to  come  back  to  us.   And 
we  didn't  create  a  subcommittee  of  the  board  to  listen 
to  them.   They  are  charged  to  come  back  to  the  full 
State  board  with  ideas  and  goals  and  methods  for  us  to 
really  get  to  this  issue  of  what  is  it  going  to  take  to 
close  this  achievement  gap.   And  we  know  on  a  big  scale, 
it's  the  --  it's  what  we  need  to  do  to  listen  to  the 
people  in  the  trenches  and  to  listen  to  the  success 
stories,  the  best  practices. 

There  are  some  schools  and  educators  succeeding 
in  closing  the  achievement  gap.   We  have  a  lot  of  work 
to  do  to  find  out  what  it  is  they're  doing  and  how  to  do 
it  across  the  board  a  lot  more  effectively.   And  we're 
there.   I  applaud  the  superintendent  for  really  being  a 
champion  of  this  issue.   It  is  not  going  to  die. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    It's  everything  -- 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:   It  is  the  core.    It  is  the 


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essence.   I  get  troubled  when  I  hear  that  the  reason  for 
the  achievement  gap  are  at  a  macro  level  of  a  whole 


school.   I  want  to  know  why  is  there 

in  a  given  school 

an  achievement  gap  between  brown  and 

white  kids?   Why  is 

that?   That  can't  have  to  do  with  the 

school  that  you're 

going  to  if  it's  the  same  school.   It 

can ' t  have  to  do 

with  the  community  that  you're  from, 

because  you're  from 

the  same  community. 

So  what  is  it  that  we  --  you 

know,  I  have  a 

theory.   I  have  part  of  a  theory.   My 

part  of  the  theory 

is  that  we're  not  taking  education  to 

where  the  kids 

are.   We  are  --  Teachers,  principals, 

administrators  , 

are  taking  the  education  where  they  think  it  ought  to 

be,  or  where  they  think  the  kids  shou 

Id  come  in  prepared 

for  instead  of  taking  the  education  w 

here  the  kids  are 

culturally,  not  just  linguistically, 

although  that ' s 

important,  but  culturally,  and  in  all 

kinds  of  ways . 

You  know,  look.   There  are  not  nuclear 

families,  so  to  fight  against  it  --  There  is  no  parental 

involvement  when  there  aren't  parents 

,  is  begging  the 

question . 

So  I  guess  what  I'm  asking  y< 

du  to  ponder  and 

reflect  on  --  and  do  something;  let's 

come  up  with  some 

statewide  solutions  --  is  look  at  the 

schools  that  are 

doing  well,  that  have  the  kids  that  are  all  different 

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colors,  shapes,  and  sizes",  and  are  all  achieving  at 
basically  the  same  level.   And  I  don't  believe  that  I 


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t  believe  it . 

MR.  ASCHWANDEN:   Senator,  I  will  leave 

you 

with 

this  thought . 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:   I  don't  believe  it. 

MR.  ASCHWANDEN:   On  a  positive  note,  I 

think 

there 

is  general  recognition  from  all  of  us  on  the 

State 

Board 

that  the  key  to  success  is  not  doing  more 

of 

what 

we  '  ve 

been  doing  and  doing  it  louder.   We  need  to  d 

o  it 

better 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:   Yes. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Very  good.   Thank 

you 

very 

much  . 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:   I'd  love  to  keep  the 

dia 

logue 

on  that  one . 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Let's  ask  for  --  I 

know 

Senator  Dutton,  you're  okay,  and  Senator  Cedillo 

is 

out 

of  the 

room  at  the  moment . 

Let's  bring  up  the  witnesses  in  support 

,  and , 

again, 

if  you  want  to  introduce  any  members  of  y 

our 

family 

Anybody  else?   Okay. 

MS.  CHAN:   All  the  board  members  were  h 

ere 

,  but 

they  h 

ad  to  go  back  because  there  was  no  quorum. 

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1  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   I  should  have  welcomed 

2  them  publicly.   Let  me  welcome  them  in  absentia. 

3  Okay.   Witnesses  in  support. 

4  MR.  JONES:   Senators,  Fred  Jones  on  behalf  of 

5  the  California  Business  Education  Association.   I'm  here 

6  to  speak  in  support  of  Jim  Aschwanden.   I  worked  with 

7  Jim  for  a  number  of  years.   You'll  never  find  someone 

8  with  more  integrity,  and,  truly,  he  has  the  interest  of 

9  students  at  heart.   Thank  you. 

10  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Very  good.   Thank  you  very 

11  much. 

12  MR.  MARTIN:   Mr.  Chair  and  Members,  Rand  Martin 

13  on  behalf  of  California  Charter  Schools  Association  in 

14  support  of  Dr.  Chan's  confirmation  back  to  the  State 

15  Board  of  Education. 

16  Clearly  what  you've  heard  is  that  she  has  vast 

17  experience.   She  has  told  us  1968  is  when  she  started  as 

18  a  teacher.   She  is  clearly  an  innovator,  a  superb 

19  innovator.   All  you  have  to  do  is  look  at  the 

20  programming  in  Los  Angeles  to  know  that.   And  she  brings 

21  a  passion  that  she  demonstrates  so  well  in  this  room, 

22  not  only  for  all  kids  but  especially  for  kids  who  are 

23  economically  disadvantaged.   We  urge  her  confirmation. 

24  Thank  you. 

25  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Thank  you. 


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MS.  GRIFFITH:   Sherry  Griffith  with  the 
Association  of  California  School  Administrators.   We're 


in  support  of  both  candidates  today.   We've  had  the 

privilege  of  working  with  them  for  the  last  two  years 

on 

the  board,  and  I  can  say  about  Ms.  Chan  with  40  years 

of 

experience  and  on- the-ground  administrative 

understanding,  our  members  really,  really  appreciate 

her 

openness  and  her  ability  to  be  very  informed  as  a  board 

member.   She's  probably  one  of  the  most  informed  memb 

ers 

that  they  have.   And  we  appreciate  her  passion.   And 

we 

are  hoping  that  she  may  close  the  achievement  gap  in 

particular . 

Mr.  Aschwanden  is  passionate,  he's  independent, 

he's  committed  to  career-tech  education,  and  he  keeps 

in 

front  of  all  the  members  the  importance  of  diversity 

and 

support  for  students  wherever  they  are.   And  the  need 

for  readiness.   So  we  support  both. 

•  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Thank  you  very  much. 

MR.  WALKER:   Mr.  Chair  and  members  of  the 

committee,  Chris  Walker  on  behalf  of  three  clients 

today,  the  California  Association  of  Sheetmetal  Air 

Conditioning  Contractors,  the  California  Automotive 

Business  Coalition,  and  the  California  Industrial  and 

Technology  Education  Association,  all  proud  and  pleased 

to  lend  their  support  for  the  confirmation  of  Jim 

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You've  heard  today  his  commitment  to  all  kids 
It  is  a  surprise  to  some  that  the  career- technical 


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attention  by  the  legislature  and  this  governor,  in 

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last  eight  years  has  actually  gone  down.   There's 

less 

student  access  today  than  there  was  eight  years 

ago, 

due  to  a  variety  of  complex  reasons.   And  we  are 

pleased  to  have  Mr.  Aschwanden  on  the  State  board  and 

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extended  problems  that  we're  facing  in  our  system  toda 

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CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Thank  you,  Mr.  Walker. 
MR.  HINES :   Good  afternoon.   Greg  Hines, 

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t  think  that  I  can  say  it  much  better,  but  echo  th 

e 

appreciation  and  the  urge  to  confirm  Mr.  Aschwanden. 

His 

leadership  and  experience  on  the  front  line  of 

education,  in  particular  his  passion  for  career- 

tech 

nical  education,  is  something  near  and  dear  to  our 

heart,  and  we  urge  the  confirmation.   Thank  you. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you. 

MR.  DIAZ:   Mr.  Chair  and  Members,  Cesar  Diaz 

on 

beha 

If  of  the  State  Building  and  Construction  Trades 

Council  also  echoing  my  colleagues  in  support  of 

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Jim  Aschwanden's  reappointment  and  confirmation  to  the 
State  Board  of  Education. 

We  have  long  had  a  partnership  with  high 
schools  and  community  colleges,  and  our  industry  ability 
to  have  access  to  a  highly  skilled  workforce  depends  on 
a  well-rounded  education,  which  includes  careers  in 
technical  ed.,  and  we  strongly  support  him  and 
respectfully  urge  his  confirmation. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Any  other  witnesses?   Any 
witnesses  in  opposition  to  these  nominees? 

SENATOR  DUTTON :   Move  approval. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Moved  by  Senator  Dutton. 
Let  me  make  a  comment,  if  I  might. 

We  ask  hard  questions,  I  hope,  difficult 
questions . 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:   Well  intended,  not  mean, 
right?   Well  intended? 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   They  were  all  excellent 
questions . 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:   Nobody  got  upset  by  me. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   You  know,  it  would  be  easy 
for  me  to  spend  my  time  or  make  my  decision  or 
conclusion  on  these  nominees  by  reiterating  my 
frustrations  over  some  specific  actions,  that  the 
algebra  issue  I  think  was  a  mistake,  my  view,  not  that 


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1  the  intent  wasn't  the  right  intent;  but  as 

2  Mr.  Aschwanden  said,  you  don't  throw  a  bomb  in  the  room 

3  and  hope  it  all  works  out.   It  has  to  be  coupled  with  a 

4  plan  to  actually  achieve  the  goal. 

5  I  could  base  my  vote  on  the  fact  that  I'm 

6  frustrated  that  thousands  of  special  ed.  kids  really  are 

7  not  being  accounted  for.   I  think  you're  doing  fine  on 

8  219  and  implementation.   I  know  you  set  out  a  timeline 

9  today  a  year  ahead  of  time,  and  I  appreciate  that,  and  I 

10  want  to  make  sure  that  works  aggressively.   But  the 

11  bottom  line  for  me,  these  are  two  outstanding  people. 

12  These  are  two  outstanding  professionals  who  have  devoted 

13  their  lives  to  kids. 

14  And,  you  know,  you  used  the  term  "want"  before, 

15  Mr.  Aschwanden.   I  know  you  weren't  referring  to  us. 

16  It's  our  right  and  our  role  and  our 

17  responsibility  to  second-guess,  just  as  the  public  has 

18  every  right  to  second-guess  decisions  that  we  make,  and 

19  it's  certainly  our  right  to  reject  nominees  if  we  feel 

20  that  they're  out  of  the  mainstream  or  if  they've  made 

21  decisions  that  lack  integrity  or  are  otherwise  not 

22  performing  their  duties.   That  can't  be  said  in  any  way 

23  for  either  of  the  two  of  you. 

24  So  we  urge  you,  as  we  move  forward  these 

25  nominations,  as  I'm  confident  that  we  will,  to  see  us 


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again  as  partners,  to  have  an  open  mind  and  open  door 
not  only  to  us  but  to  members  of  the  public .   And  I 
think  that  was  one  of  the  criticisms  of  the  algebra 
decision.   It  just  kind  of  happened  without  much  public 
dialogue,  and  that  shouldn't  happen  again. 

But  you're  outstanding  people,  and  you 
deserve  --  you  deserve  confirmation  and  to  continue  in 
your  roles  as  public  servants. 

So  do  we  have  a  motion? 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:   Move  appointment. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Moved  by  Senator  Dutton 
already . 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Of  both. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Of  both  nominees,  correct. 

Do  we  need  to  take  them  one  at  a  time  or  can  we 
take  them  together?   I'm  just  asking. 

MS.  SABELHAUS :   Together. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Together  is  fine.    I'm  new 
to  this  job.   Protocol. 

All  right.   Please  call  the  roll. 

MS.  BROWN:   Senator  Cedillo. 

SENATOR  CEDILLO:   Aye. 

MS.  BROWN:   Cedillo  aye. 

Dutton . 

SENATOR  DUTTON:   Aye. 


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MS.  BROWN:   Dutton  aye. 

2  Oropeza. 

3  SENATOR  OROPEZA:   Aye. 

4  MS.  BROWN:   Oropeza  aye. 

5  Aanestad. 

6  SENATOR  AANESTAD:   Aye. 

7  MS.  BROWN:   Aanestad  aye. 

8  Steinberg. 

9  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Aye. 

10  MS.  BROWN:   Steinberg  aye. 

11  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Congratulations.   Your 

12  nomination  will  go  to  the  Senate.   It  takes  27  votes,  so 

13  work  the  members,  as  they  say. 

14  Okay.   Thank  you  very  much. 

15  MS.  CHAN:   Thank  you. 

16  MR.  ASCHWANDEN:   Thank  you. 

17  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   All  right.   We  have  one 

18  more  item  here  before  we  go  to  the  --  We  have  other 

19  items  of  business,  but  one  more  nominee  is  appearing 

20  before  us  today,  and  that  is  Candice  Traeger,  who  is 

21  seeking  reappointment  as  a  member  of  the  Occupational 

22  Safety  and  Health  Appeals  Board. 

23  Ms.  Traeger,  welcome  to  you. 

24  MS.  TRAEGER:   Thank  you. 

25  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Thank  you  for  your  public 


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service,  and  if  you  would  like  to  make  a  brief  opening 
comment,  I'd  appreciate  it. 

MS.  TRAEGER:  Certainly.  Senator  Pro  Tern  and 
Members  of  the  Senate  Rules  Committee,  it  really  is  an 
honor  to  be  before  you  today  and  testifying  and  to  get 
the  opportunity  to  represent  myself. 

I  come  before  you  today  to  ask  for  your  vote 
for  confirmation  on  my  appointment  as  a  member  of  the 
Occupational  Safety  and  Health  Appeals  Board. 

I've  served  as  a  member  and  a  chairperson  for 
the  board  since  November  of  2004.   The  board  serves  a 
vital  mission  of  promoting  and  encouraging  workplace 
safety  through  a  consistent  application  of  statutes  and 
regulations  while  resolving  appeals  from  the  Division  of 
Occupational  Safety  and  Health  citations. 

Prior  to  my  state  service,  I  think  it's 
important  to  know  a  little  bit  that  I  had  a  career  of 
25  years  where  I  worked  my  way  through  law  school  as  a 
part-time  employee  at  UPS  and  a  full-time  Teamster.   For 
the  nine  years  I  was  a  Teamster,  I  had  an  opportunity  to 
serve  as  a  union  steward,  and  I  represented  my  brethren 
in  all  respects,  including  health  and  safety  issues. 

I  was  a  UPS  loader,  a  UPS  driver,  a  UPS  center 
manager,  and  went  on  as  an  industrial  engineer.   I  had 
an  opportunity  to  supervise  the  drivers  and  had  several 


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1  other  assignments  in  New  York  and  Washington,  D . C . ;  but 

2  my  background  was  really  put  to  the  test  as  chairperson 

3  of  the  appeals  board  when  I  came,  because  we  had  a 

4  backlog  of  about  4,000  appeals.   We  also  had  a  federal 

5  complaint  against  the  state  action  plan,  which  is  often 

6  called  a  CASPA,  and  that  threatens,  of  course,  our 

7  ability  to  continue  on  as  a  state  plan. 

8  The  CASPA  alleged  that  we  were  not  resolving 

9  appeals  on  a  timely  manner,  and  we  were  resolving  in 

10  about  24  months,  about  two  years,  on  average.   However, 

11  the  CASPA  noted  several  cases  that  hadn't  been  resolved 

12  for  three  to  six  years . 

13  Through  working  with  our  people  and 

14  implementing  many  of  their  ideas,  we  are  now  in  the 

15  national  average  for  our  resolution  rate,  which  the 

16  national  average  is  eight  to  ten,  and  we're  resolving 

17  appeals  in  nine  months. 

18  The  good  thing  about  that  is  that  people  are 

19  still  working  at  the  same  place.   The  DOSH  inspector, 

20  the  people  that  gave  the  citations,  are  usually  still 

21  there,  construction  industries  that  are  transient  are 

22  still  in  place,  and  we're  actually  able  to  get  to  the 

23  citations  and  the  appeals  at  such  a  time  when  people 

24  actually  get  an  opportunity  to  take  the  case  to  hearing/ 

25  should  they  desire  to  do  so. 


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We  have  eliminated  the  backlog.   We're  down  to 
87  cases,  which  translates  into  about  197  appeals,  and, 
like  I  said,  the  wonderful  thing  about  eliminating  the 
backlog  has  been  the  opportunity  to  really  not  only 
maintain  the  quality  and  find  that  sweet  spot  between 
quality  and  production,  but  we've  had  incredible 
teamwork  and  professionalism  at  the  same  time. 

Another  thing  that  I'm  really  excited  about, 
should  I  be  confirmed  today,  is  that  we've  turned  the 
corner,  and  2009  where  we're  not  looking  at  a  backlog, 
we're  actually  able  to  embark  on  customer  service.   And 
it's  a  goal  of  mine,  having  come  from  a  business  where 
customer  service  is  really  important  to  us,  to  turn  that 
corner  and  look  at  our  internal  and  our  external 
customers,  which  would  be  our  people,  through  doing 
surveys  on  their  satisfaction,  and  also  our  external 
people,  which,  you  know,  at  first  we  may  not  hear  what 
we  want  to  hear,  but  the  nice  thing  about  that  is  you 
hear  what  you  don't  want  to  hear.   And  so  you're  able  to 
not  only  set  a  benchmark,  but  you're  also  able  to  move 
forward  in  a  positive  direction.   There's  no  place  to  go 
but  up . 

We  are  holding  our  first  ever  advisory 
committee  in  about  three  weeks,  and  we're  excited  about 
that.   The  board  has  never  done  an  advisory  committee 


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1  before,  and  we'll  take  recommendations  to  refine  the 

2  pilot  project,  and  we'll  expedite  abatement  appeals. 

3  And  we're  pretty  excited  about  that  notion,  because  it 

4  obviously  --  it  may  be  a  small  percent,  but  you  know 

5  what?   It's  a  very  important  percent  of  appeals  that  are 

6  staid  and  abatement  does  not  occur,  and  I  know  that  and 

7  know  that  well. 

8  It  is  true  to  credit  some  people  at  the  board, 

9  that  they  believe  so  strongly  in  our  mission  of 

10  promoting  and  encouraging  workplace  safety  that  they're 

11  willing  to  work  harder,  more  efficiently,  but,  most 

12  important,  more  effectively  than  we  have.   The  people 

13  have  achieved  an  amazing  result  and  will  continue  to  do 

14  so,  because  we  share  a  vision  of  a  safer  and  a  healthier 

15  workplace  for  everybody  in  California. 

16  It  really  is  my  sincere  desire  to  lead  the 

17  appeals  board  into  a  new  era  where  there  is  no  backlog, 

18  and  we  provide  an  increasing  level  of  customer  service 

19  and  satisfaction. 

20  So  I  again  ask  for  your  vote  for  my 

21  confirmation,  and  I  really  thank  you  for  the  opportunity 

22  to  testify  before  you  today.   And  should  you  have  any 

23  questions? 

24  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Thank  you,  Ms.  Traeger. 

25  Thank  you  very  much.   We've  known  each  other  for  years, 


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and  I  know  you  to  be  a  person  --  a  hard-working  person 
of  integrity,  and  I  appreciate  your  public  service. 

There  are  a  few  issues  of  concern  that  I  want 


to  get  ri 

ght  into,  if  we  mi 

ght 

,  and  then  the  members 

can,  again,  take  it  from  th 

ere 

They're  in  the 

following 

categories .   One 

is 

the  way  hearings  are 

conducted 

before  the  board. 

There  have  been  some 

concerns . 

Secondly,  there 

is 

the  issue  of  the  amount  of 

penalties 

for  non- farm-work 

er 

cases.   And  then  there  is 

the  concern  which  was  written 

about  in  the  Sacramento 

Bee    less 

than  a  month  ago  a 

bout  the  fines  relating  to 

the  heat- 

stroke  cases .   So 

let 

's  go  one  by  one  here. 

Apparently,  one  of 

th 

e  things  you  have  done, 

which  is 

actually  laudable, 

is 

that  you  have  attempted 

to  reduce 

the  backlog,  righ 

t? 

And  that's  a  good  thing, 

right,  because  you  don't  want 

litigants  to  have  to  wait 

for  a  Ion 

g  time  or  forever 

to 

be  able  to  have  their 

cases  heard.   But  there  is 

some  concern  that  maybe  the 

pendulum 

has  swung  a  little 

too  far  in  that  multiple 

cases  are 

set  on  the  same  d 

ay, 

continuances  are  not 

necessari 

ly  adjudicated,  or 

you  don't  say  whether-  the 

party  can 

have  a  continuance  until  the  night  before  a 

hearing , 

and  that  everythin 

g  is  being  --  and  that  the 

purpose  actually  behind  consol 

idating  all  these  hearings 

at  once, 

leaving  less  time 

for 

hearings,  is  that  you're 

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trying  to  settle  as  many  cases  as  you  can  to  reduce  the 
backlog. 

3  One,  is  that  the  motive?   And,  two,  how  do  you 

4  respond  to  some  critics  who  would  say  that  folks  are 

5  being  encouraged  too  strongly  to  not  have  their  cases 

6  heard  and  instead  to  settle? 

7  MS.  TRAEGER:   Okay.   I  guess  what  I  would  first 

8  point  out  is  one  of  the  things  I  did  in  the  past  was 

9  industrial  engineer,  and  industrial  engineers  are  crazy 

10  about  numbers . 

11  And  so  one  of  the  things  I  did  is  I  looked  back 

12  to  the  inception  of  the  board  and  tracked  numbers  about 

13  settlement  rates .   And  party  agreement  or  party 

14  settlement  I  think  is  probably  part  of  any  adjudicatory 

15  process,  the  decision  whether  to  move  forward  or  not, 

16  whether  there's  adequate  evidence,  whether  your 

17  witnesses  are  present,  and  so  on,  when  they  can  make 

18  your  case  . 

19  But  we  benchmarked  --  The  very  first  thing  we 

20  did  is  we  wanted  to  see  what  other  people  were  doing 

21  relative  to  their  hearings,  and  so  we  looked  at  other 

22  agencies,  other  court  processes  and  such,  and  we  found 

23  out  that  our  holding  of  one  hearing  a  day  for  the  four 

24  years  previous  to  when  I  came  produced  --  with  a 

25  settlement  rate  of  around  80  percent  was  producing,  for 


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instance,  ten  judges  with  eight  of  them  having  nothing 
to  do  because  there  were  no  hearings,  and  then  two  of 
them  being  able  to  hold  hearings. 

So  the  number  of  the  settlement  rate  at  the 
board  prior  to  any  hearing  has  always  been  anywhere  from 
about  73  percent  to  85,  and  one  year  90. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:  The  settlement  rate  has 
not  varied  after  you  adopted  the  multiple  hearings  in 
one  day  -  - 

MS.  TRAEGER:   We  actually  picked  up  about  4 
percent.   So  the  average  prior  was  about  --  all  over  the 
years  was  80  percent,  and  it's  now  84. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Have  you  heard  the 
complaint  from  advocates  or  representatives  or  litigants 
themselves  that  they're  feeling  pressured  into  settle 
because  they  have  less  time  to  be  able  to  prepare  and/or 
to  actually  have  their  case  heard? 

MS.  TRAEGER:   I  think  the  nature  of  moving  -- 
keeping  up  with  an  ever  increasing  appeal  rate  and 
addressing  backlog  certainly  is  that  setting  a  hearing 
for  a  case  puts  a  certain  kind  of  impetus  on  parties, 
and  one  of  those  things  is  to  review  the  file  to  prepare 
for  a  prehearing.   And,  remember,  they're  preparing  now 
much  sooner  than  they  used  to.   It  used  to  be  two  years. 
They  can  wait  one  year  or  -- 


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SENATOR  OROPEZA:   They  who?   They  who? 
CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   The  party. 


MS.  TRAEGER :   I  mean  anybody. 

It  could  be 

OSHA  or 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:   That's  what 

I ' m  wondering . 

When  you  say  "they,"  I'm  just  not  sure 

who  -  - 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   You're  sa 

ying  it's  a 

You ' re 

saying  it's  a  one-year  wait  now 

to  have  your  case 

heard, 

and  it  used  to  be  a  two-year  wai 

t  .   Is  that  what 

you ' re 

saying? 

MS.  TRAEGER:   It's  nine  months 

now  for  the 

entire 

case  resolution.   It  used  to  be, 

on  average,  two 

years  f 

or  that  case  resolution,  and  it 

was  one  year 

before 

the  prehearing  came.   So  what  would  happen  -- 

What  we 

believe  happened  is  that  people 

tended  --  those 

cases  g 

ot  a  little  bit  stale,  witnesses 

disappeared, 

people 

were  no  longer  with  the  same  com 

panies,  and  so. . . 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Okay.    Yo 

u  know,  because  I 

was  an 

administrative  law  judge  for  years  and  doing 

personnel  cases,  I  used  to  pride  myself 

on  settling 

cases  at  about  the  same  kind  of  percentage  rate;  but 

once  in 

a  while  I  would  have  to  catch  m 

yself  and  say, 

You  know  what?   I'm  trying  too  hard  to 

settle  this  case. 

I ■ m  try 

ing  too  hard,  you  know,  because 

this  one,  the 

parties 

actually  ought  to  have  the  case 

heard.   It  needs 

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to  be  heard.   And  my  desire  to  sort  of  get  the  case  off 
the  docket  isn't  as  important  as  having  their  case 
heard . 

So  I  want  to  ask  you  to  be  sensitive  to  that. 
Okay? 

MS.  TRAEGER:   Absolutely. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Second,  fines.   Concern  -- 
I'll  get  my  notes  here  just  for  a  moment. 

There's  some  concern  expressed  by  advocates 
that  the  board  is  actually,  in  some  instances,  issuing 
penalties  less  than  $1,000  for  an  employer's  failure  to 
report  workplace  accidents  to  OSHA.   The  Labor  Code 
section  states  that  the  minimum  mandatory  penalty  for 
such  violations  is  $5,000.   What's  the  story? 

MS.  TRAEGER:   The  story  is  the  board  laid  out  a 
precedential  decision  in  2006  on  a  case  called  Bill 
Calloway ,  and  that  case  --  our  legislative  --  our  legal 
staff,  we  don't  have  legislators,  but  our  legal  staff 
looked  into  the  various  code  sections  that  were  specific 
to  the  board,  that  were  specific  to  the  division,  or, 
you  know,  anyone  else  for  that  matter. 

At  any  rate,  we  received  recommendations  from 
our  legal  department.   We  followed  those 

recommendations.   And  part  of  the  concern  of  the  legal 
department  was  that  if  you  were  to  treat  people  that 


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1  didn't  report  at  all  the  same  as  people  that  reported  an 

2  injury  late,  we  believed  there  would  be  no  motivation  to 

3  report  once  that  time  period,  the  eight  hours,  had 

4  passed. 

5  We  did  not  want  to  drive  people  underground  to 

6  not  reporting  because  they  couldn't  make  it  eight  hours. 

7  Rather,  we  wanted  to  create  a  system  where  people 

8  believed  that  reporting  was  the  thing  to  do,  even  if 

9  they  were  late;  and  they  were  going  to  take  their 

10  punishment,  but  the  punishment  fit  what  they  did. 

11  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Okay.   Trying  to  encourage 

12  people  to  come  forth  voluntarily. 

13  What  about  the  heat  cases  which  have  gotten  so 

14  much  publicity  and,  you  know,  tragic,  tragic 

15  circumstances.   You've  issued  original  penalties  of 

16  about  a  million  dollars,  or  more  than  a  million  dollars, 

17  and  you  end  up  settling  the  cases,  according  to  the 

18  Sacramento   Bee,     by  two-thirds  so  that  the  fines  ended  up 

19  being  paid  are  $336,000. 

20  How  does  that  send  a  message  to  agricultural 

21  employers  or  farm  labor  contractors  that  they  need  to 

22  absolutely  provide  adequate  shade  and  water  for  people 

23  working  in  the  fields? 

24  MS.  TRAEGER:   We're  very  concerned  about  this 

25  very  serious  problem.   We  went  back  and  tracked  how  many 


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of  these  heat-illness  cases  had  been  appealed,  and  we 
found  that  since  2006,  303  cases  had  been  appealed. 

During  that  --  Of  those  cases,  the  appeals 
board  held  hearings  on  six  cases.   Those  are  six  cases 
where  we  looked  at,  you  know,  the  decision  and  decided 
whether  to  affirm,  modify,  or  rescind.   The  rest  were 
all  settled  by  party  agreement. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   And  the  six,  what  did  you 
do  with  the  proposed  settlement? 

MS.  TRAEGER :   I  knew  you  were  going  to  ask 
that  . 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Yes. 

MS.  TRAEGER:   I  don't  have  the  exact  numbers  on 
that.   It  kind  of  came  up  --  One  of  my  last-minute 
requests  was:   What  did  we  do  on  those  six? 

I  can  tell  you  that  the  board  --  between  what 
the  parties  usually  agree  on,  which  is  about  a 
64  percent  reduction  over  what  the  initial  citation 
says,  the  appeals  board,  through  our  hearing  system, 
reduces  an  average  of  6  percent . 

So  oftentimes,  because  we  look  at  an  ALJ 
decision  does  not  mean  that  we  are  going  to  reduce  a 
fine.   What  we're  going  to  do  is  see  if  the  parties  can 
prove  their  case  -- 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   But  did  you  reduce  a  fine 


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in  those  six  instances? 

MS.  TRAEGER :   Oh,  well,  certainly  where  there 


was 

evidence  presented  that  carried  the  b 

urden  of  proof, 

you 

know,  and  -  - 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    But  in  all 

six  cases,  was 

the 

fine  reduced? 

MS.  TRAEGER:    I'm 

certain  that  i 

t  wasn ' t ,  just 

because  we  don't  do  that  in  that  kind  of 

manner.   But  I 

can 

certainly  get  you  that 

information  on 

those  six 

cases . 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Okay.    Let' 

s  open  it  up  to 

the 

members.   Start  on  the 

lef t .   Senator 

Cedillo . 

SENATOR  CEDILLO: 

Yes.   With  all 

due  respect, 

let 

me  suggest  to  you  that 

the  directive 

or  counsel  from 

your  staff  or  from  your  staff  counsel  sai 

d  that  you  did 

not 

impose  the  mandatory  fee  penalty  of  $5,000,  which 

is  wholly  inappropriate.   It  seems  to  me 

that  that 

discretion  is  not  afforded 

you  . 

If  you're  looking 

for  discretion 

,  you  may  want 

to  1 

ook  to  notice.   If  you 

want  to  distin 

guish  motive 

for 

those  who  make  all  good  faith  efforts 

to  comply,  who 

demonstrate  reasonableness 

and  who  constructively 

comp 

lied,  you  can  do  that  within  the  framework  of  what 

the 

baseline  is  that  the  le 

gislature  set . 

In  other 

word 

is,  we  said  the  minimum 

that  you  can  - 

-  or  the 

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minimum  you  must  penalize  somebody  is  $5,000.   So  it 
appears  the  intent  is  to  penalize  others  who  are  more 
egregious  and  less  responsible,  less  reasonable,  you  can 
penalize  them  more.   But  it  doesn't  appear,  at  least 
from  the  surface  reading,  that  you  have  that  discretion. 

Now  I  know  it  puts  you  in  a  dilemma,  but  there 
was  a  purpose  for  us  passing  that  legislation,  and  it 
was  to  motivate  people  to  speak  timely  so  that  the  union 
could  investigate  timely.   I  mean,  there's  a  whole 
scheme  of  intent  there.   I  don't  mean  to  argue  that.   I 
think  what's  important  is  to  point  out  that,  at  least 
for  your  counsel,  that  that's  not  discretion  that  you 
have.   If  there's  a  minimum,  there's  a  minimum,  and  it's 
only  a  question  of  whether  or  not  you  make  a  decision 
whether  or  not  to  conform.   But  once  you  determine  they 
haven't  conformed  or  complied,  it  seems  that  you're 
pretty  limited  by  it. 

So  I  just  --  We  don't  need  to  argue  or 
disagree,  but  I  think  it  says  the  mandatory  minimum  is 
5,000.   It  doesn't  seem  to  provide  you  with  that  type  of 
discretion . 

Now  if  you  think  and  say  to  us,  "Look,  we 
cleared  a  backlog.   We  find  it  ineffective,  and  it 
frustrates  us,  and  it  undermines  it,  it  pushes  it 
underground,  we  need  discretion,"  that's  fair.   That's 


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reasonable.   We're  happy  to  address  that,  and  any  one  of 
us  on  this  dais  might  be  willing  to  go  forward  and  say, 
"Yes,  let's  do  that,"  given  that  we  do  have,  today,  a 
functioning,  effective  code,  and  it  was  designed  around 
trying  to  deal  with  backlog. 

But,  clearly,  I  would  suggest  that  it's  not 
something  you  independently  have  the  right  to  do. 

MS.  TRAEGER :   I  appreciate  the  perspective. 
We  --  the  board  -- 

The  Labor  Code  section  that  the  attorney 
believed  that  applied  to  the  board  was  Labor  Code 
Section  3602  which  says  that  "The  board  shall, "  and  then 
"modify,  affirm,  rescind  an  ALJ  decision."   So  that  was 
the  one,  I  think,  that  they  believed.   And  the  other  one 
I  believe  was  6409.1  that  said  that  "The  division  may 
issue  in  every  case  not  less  than  5,000,"  our  staff 
believed  to  be  somewhat  ambiguous  and  definitely  to 
apply  to  the  division,  because  it  said  by  its  own  terms 
a  "division."   And  so  maybe  it  is  the  kind  of  thing  like 
you  suggested  that  should  have  -- 

SENATOR  CEDILLO:   Been  revisited? 

MS.  TRAEGER:   Yes.   That  was  the  thinking. 

SENATOR  CEDILLO:   That's  one.   The  second  -- 
Let  me  just  again  suggest  to  you  that  --  and  we  hear 
this  from  the  courts.   This  is  something  that's  very 


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important . 

The  hearings  are,  in  a  sense,  the  court  for 
workmen  who  are  injured.   To  limit  --  The  notes  tell  me 
there's  intent  to  or  there  is  an  effort  to  limit  the 
hearing  area  to  three  areas  versus  21  sites,  and  I  would 
encourage  you  not  to  do  that.   I  think  it  undermines  -- 
Just  simply  eliminating  the  venues  undermines  access 
both  for  employers  and  employees,  and  to  the  extent 
there's  greater  access  means  greater  opportunity  for 
resolution . 

So  I  know  for  everything  there's  cost 
considerations,  but  clearly  these  are  the  forums  for  the 
employers  to  seek  resolution  of  this,  and  clearly  we 
must  work  to  broaden  access  rather  than  restrict  it, 
within  all  the  other  considerations. 

MS.  TRAEGER:   If  I  might  mention,  the  board  has 
never  held  --  I  think  there's  21  locations  in  the  state. 
I  think  the  most  ALJs  we've  ever  had  is  nine.   We  have 
seven  locations  where  we  have  hearings  in  the  state  now 
and  no  intent  of  doing  anything  differently.   We  heard  a 
recommendation  that  was  bandied  about,  and  perhaps  we 
should  do  that . 

The  board  actually  has  some  experience,  believe 
it  or  not.   They  did  that  about  ten  years  ago,  and  I 
think  there  was  quite  a  maelstrom  then  at  that  time,  so 


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we  have  no  intention.   And  I  think  sometimes  when  you 
have  an  information  void,  people  fill  it  with  --  I  don't 
know  what  they  fill  it  with  --  information,  maybe 
speculation . 

But  I  just  would  assure  everyone  we  have  no 
intention  of  reducing  our  hearing  sites.   In  fact,  in 
the  year  of  customer  service,  I  may  --  and  without  a 
backlog,  we'll  be  able  to  do  a  lot  more  things  than 
we've  ever  been  able  to  do,  and  part  of  that  is  we'll 
get  the  input  through  the  advisory  committee  that's 
going  to  tell  us  what  it  is  that  people  want  and  what 
would  work  best,  and  we  can  make  a  decision. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Senator  Cedillo? 

SENATOR  CEDILLO:   It  was  a  point  that  you 
raised  with  respect  to  fines  and  the  reduction  of  fines, 
and  what  signal  that  sends.   I  understand  the  agency  -- 
and  none  of  us  on  this  dais  are  anti -business .   We  all 
want  to  figure  out  how  to  stimulate  our  economy. 

Clearly,  this  agency  has  to  be  seen  first  and 
foremost  as  an  agency  for  working  men  and  women  in  the 
state,  and  I  would  urge  you  to  rethink  both  the  message 
sent  to  the  workers,  working  men  and  women  in  the  state, 
and  specifically  as  it  relates  to  the  farm  workers  who 
do  the  most  difficult  work,  the  composition  -- 
demographic  composition  of  farm  workers  and  the  message 


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it  sends  to  them  as  workers  and  then  to  dealers  in  this 
state  when  we  have  conditions  that  result  in  people 
dying  on  the  job,  and  the  reduction  of  penalties. 

To  say  --  I  would  not  want  to  get  behind 
somebody's  findings  on  a  case  that's  not  before  me  to 
evaluate  at  all,  but  patently  it  appears  it's  just 
egregious  that  someone  would  suggest  somehow  $250  is 
sufficient  to  penalize  someone  as  a  result  of  when 
someone  dies  at  the  workplace.   It's  patently,  on  its 
face,  abhorrent,  and  in  this  context  it  sends  a  bad 
message  with  respect  to  California  and  race  relations 
and  human  relations  in  California. 

MS.  TRAEGER:   I  certainly  agree  with  that. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Thank  you. 

Senator  Aanestad. 

SENATOR  AANESTAD:   Nothing. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Nothing. 

Senator  Dutton. 

SENATOR  DUTTON:   Just  real  quick.   I  appreciate 
the  council.   My  colleagues  and  I  would  agree, 
obviously,  we  want  to  make  sure  it's  a  fair  and 
above-board  process.   However,  I  do  want  to  compliment 
you,  because  you're  one  of  the  very  few  state  agencies 
and  boards  that  have  actually  figured  out  a  way  to 
become  more  efficient  and  eliminate  backlog,  because  I 


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1  think  one  of  the  bigger  problems  is  having  backlog  is 

2  actually  more  costly.   So  you  figured  out  a  way  to  do 

3  it.   It  sounds  like  you  have  the  support  of  the  people 

4  within  your  department  and  all  the  employees,  so  I  want 

5  to  compliment  you  on  that  kind  of  leadership  and  thank 

6  you  for  your  service. 

7  MS.  TRAEGER:   Thank  you,  Senator.   It's  not 

8  without  pain,  and  I  do  understand  that. 

9  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   For  your  workers,  for  your 

10  employees . 

11  MS.  TRAEGER:   Correct.   Backlog  in  and  of 

12  itself  is  pain,  but  getting  rid  of  it  is  probably  worse 

13  pain. 

14  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   I  think  it  is  impressive, 

15  and  I  believe  you  that  you've  gone  from  two  years  --  I'm 

16  sorry.   Did  I  -- 

17  MS.  TRAEGER:   Four.    It  took  us  four  years.   I 

18  thought  it  would  take  two.   I  -- 

19  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   No,  no,  no,  no.   The 

20  amount  of  time  to  have  a  case  heard  from  -- 

21  MS.  TRAEGER:   Oh,  yeah.   Twenty-four  months  to 

22  nine  . 

23  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Twenty-four  months  to  nine 

24  months.   That's  impressive. 

25  Okay.   Senator  Oropeza. 


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SENATOR  OROPEZA:   My  concerns  have  been  --  all 
but  one  have  been  raised  by  Senators  Cedillo  and 


Steinberg . 

I 

would  like 

to  note  that  the  labor 

position  on 

this  board 

has  not  been  filled  for  sometime, 

so  I ' d  like 

you  to  share  what  you 

have  done  to  communicate  with  and 

to  seek  the 

viewpoints 

of  organized  labor,  or 

the 

workers ,  as 

you  do  your  job  as  a  board  member 

MS 

.  TRAEGER: 

Absolutely.   I  persona 

lly  like 

that  question,  because 

clearly  the  labor  pers 

pective  is 

a  very  valu 

able  perspective,  and  everybody  is 

served 

well  by  discussion. 

We 

do  the  best  with  what  we  have.   At  this 

point,  what 

we  have  done  --  and  if  I  could  mention  a 

case,  the  k 

ind  of  thin 

g  we  would  do.   There  was  a  Kinder 

Morgan  case 

It  was  a 

large  case  with  quite 

a  bit  of 

money,  where  there  was 

a  stipulation  proposed 

before  the 

board  that 

that  stipulation  would  create  a  U, 

an 

unclassif  ie 

d  violation 

,  rather  than  a  willful 

or  a  P , 

which  even 

though  the 

full  amount  of  the  fine 

would  be 

paid,  the  U 

would  not 

go  against  their  record 

as  would  a 

willful  or 

a  P.   That 

was  a  stipulation  that 

rfas 

proposed  to 

us  and  adv 

ocated  by  both  DOSH  and 

an 

employer . 

It  is  done 

at  a  federal  level. 

So 

we  did  two 

things  when  we  were  trying  to 

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decide  what  we  were  going  to  do  with  that.   First,  we 
reached  out  to  the  Labor  Federation,  and  then  we  reached 
out  to  the  laborers  themselves.   We  wrote  letters  and 
asked  them  what  they  thought  and  engaged  them,  because 
we  didn't  know  where  --  what  they  would  like  us  to  do. 
Unfortunately,  our  lawyers  said  they  had  reached  out  to 
them  a  few  times,  and  they  declined  to  give  us  their 
thoughts  on  that. 

However,  what  we  had  our  attorneys  do  is 
research  it  at  a  federal  level,  and  what  we  found  there 
through  our  research  was  that  labor  was  not  real  happy 
with  it  at  the  federal  level.   Although  it  did  occur 
there,  the  board  ultimately  rejected  the  stipulation  and 
felt  that  the  --  if  there  was  a  desire  to  have  a 
U  classification  in  California,  that  they  should 
probably  make  a  regulation  that  said  U. 

So  --  We  haven't  seen  that  back  yet.   I  don't 
know  what's  going  to  happen.   But  certainly  in 
cases  where  --  I  mean,  you  could  say  every  case,  but 
there's  certainly  some  cases  that  just  call  out  for 
reaching  out  to  people  and  saying  "Help." 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:   Sure,  sure,  and  hopefully 
you'll  have  company  from  the  labor  community  on  the 
board  sometime  soon.   I  think  that  would  be  the  best 
solution . 


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CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Thank  you  very  much. 
Let's  hear  from  witnesses  in  support  of  the  nominee. 

JUDGE  MELGOZA:   Good  afternoon.   My  name  is 
Manuel  Melgoza,  M-e- 1-g-o- z -a .   I'm  the  presiding 
administrative  law  judge  for  the  Cal  OSHA  Appeals  Board. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Welcome,  Judge. 

JUDGE  MELGOZA:   And  I'd  just  like  to  tell  you  a 
little  bit  about  my  background. 

I  grew  up  as  --  in  Southern  California  --  in 
San  Joaquin  County  as  a  farm  laborer,  a  son  of  farm 
laborers,  and  I  went  to  law  school,  came  back.   I  worked 
for  CRLA  for  a  time.   I  worked  for  the  Agricultural 
Labor  Relations  Board,  the  Public  Employee  Relations 
Board,  and  here  at  the  Cal  OSHA  Appeals  Board  since 
1990.   So  I've  seen  a  lot  of  boards,  and  I've  worked  as 
an  attorney  for  different  boards. 

One  of  the  frustrating  things  for  me  working  as 
an  attorney  for  the  Agricultural  Labor  Relations  Board 
was  winning  a  case  for  farm  workers  where  you  had  a  lot 
of  money  to  get  picked  up,  getting  the  money  to 
distribute  to  the  workers  and  not  finding  them.   They're 
gone  because  of  lapse  of  time.   Couldn't  find  workers  to 
give  them  their  back  pay  or  their  makeup  pay.   And  even 
though  we  collected  and  we  won,  it  was  an  empty  victory, 
because  by  the  time  we  got  a  resolution,  it  was 


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irrelevant  to  them. 

Well,  that  was  --  That  situation  was 

3  threatening  to  become  a  reality  at  the  appeals  board, 

4  and  it  frustrated  me,  working  at  the  --  not  this  appeals 

5  board  --  but  once  Candice  Traeger  became  the  board 

6  chair,  that  was  one  of  our  first  items  to  tackle,  which 

7  is  "Justice  delayed  is  justice  denied,"  which  I  agreed 

8  with. 

9  So  we  started  to  tackle  this  issue.   Why  is  it 

10  that  we  have  this  huge  backlog,  yet  we  have  an  ALJ 

11  sitting  there  with  no  work  to  do?   I  happened  to  mentor 

12  a  new  ALJ  at  one  point  about  four  years  ago,  and  every 

13  time  I  tried  to  mentor  the  ALJ,  the  hearing  would  come 

14  off  calendar.   Why?   Because  it  was  set  for  three  days, 

15  four  days,  and  then  it  would  come  off  calendar  at  the 

16  last  minute.   So  we  had  a  huge  backlog,  and  we  had  ALJs 

17  doing  nothing.   That  was  unacceptable.   When  you  have  a 

18  backlog  and  you  have  no  work  to  do,  that's  just  wrong, 

19  So  we  looked  for  other  different  ways  to  try  to 

20  deal  with  it.   We  started  calendaring  all  our  hearings 

21  to  see  what  number  would  be  reasonable.   We're  down  to 

22  three  hearings  a  day  on  average.   Two  short  ones,  one 

23  long  one,  and  we  feel  that  so  far  has  worked  for  us  and 

24  has  helped  us  to  come  to  the  point  where  we  are. 

25  We  looked  at  other  agencies  to  see  what  they 


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were  doing,  and  they  had  multiple  hearings  as  well. 
Given  our  settlement  rate,  that  seems  reasonable. 
However,  now  that  we're  done  with  the  backlog  almost,  we 
can  do  these  other  things.   We  can  give  the  parties 
extra  settlement  conferences  or  --  We've  been  able  to 
now  tackle  the  cases.   It's  because  of  the  clearing  of 
the  backlog  that's  allowed  us  to  take  cases  that  are  now 
relevant  and  adjudicate  those. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Thank  you  very  much.   I 
went  into  the  hearing  --  Well,  we'll  hear  from  the  other 
witnesses  too  about  their  view  of  the  backlog. 

You  know,  having  done  this  sort  of  work  before, 
it  is  important,  sort  of  efficiency- wise ,  that  we  sort 
of  stack  the  cases  during  the  course  of  the  day,  because 
I  remember  being  an  ALJ  too  and  having  the  same 
experience,  no  cases  sometimes.   It's  frustrating, 
because  they  weren't  stacked  densely  enough. 

Okay.   Let's  --  Thank  you,  sir.   Thank  you, 
Judge.   Appreciate  it. 

Next  . 

MR.  DIEDE:   Mr.  Chairman,  members  of  the 
committee,  I'm  Brad  Diede  with  Cal  PASC,  California 
Professional  Association  of  Specialty  Contractors.   We 
represent  nearly  500  member  companies  across  the 
state  of  California,  and  we  just  want  to  briefly  express 


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1  our  support  for  Candice  Traeger. 

2  We  believe  that  it's  important  that  Cal  OSHA 

3  operate  the  appeals  board  efficiently,  timely,  and 

4  fairly,  and  we  think  that  she's  been  doing  that,  and  we 

5  appreciate  her  continued  position. 

6  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Thank  you  very  much,  sir. 

7  Other  witnesses?   Go  ahead. 

8  MS.  CHRISTIAN:   Hi,  my  name  is  Mary  Christian. 

9  Thank  you  for  the  honor  to  speak  to  you  members .   I  have 

10  been  working  --  I'm  a  working  partner  at  the  board. 

11  We're  team  members  with  Candice.   Candice  is  a  working 

12  member.   She  is  a  great  leader.   Positive.   And  she  also 

13  works  with  other  department  heads  in  the  collection  area 

14  that  I  believe  you  need  to  know. 

15  Collection  is  one  of  the  more  difficult  things 

16  that  the  department  has  to  do  once  the  board 

17  adjudicates,  so  I  just  want  you  to  know  and  to  be  in 

18  support  of  Candice. 

19  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you. 

20  Are  there  any  witnesses  in  opposition  or  with 

21  concerns?   We'll  take  those  categories  together,  and  you 

22  can  identify  which  one. 

23  MR.  SMITH:   Thank  you,  Mr.  Chair,  members  of 

24  the  committee.   I'm  Jeremy  Smith  here  on  behalf  of 

25  California  Labor  Federation. 


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We  are  officially  neutral.   I  want  to  come  up 
first  and  now  at  this  point  so  I  can  get  a  couple  things 
on  the  record. 

First  of  all,  I'd  like  to  publicly  thank 
Candice  for  spending  two  hours  with  us  on  Monday, 
myself,  Angie,  that's  our  DS  from  the  State  Building  and 
Construction  Trades  Council,  and  Lee  Sandol  from  the 
Longshore  Warehouse  Workers  Union.   She  was  very 
attentive.   We  had  a  very  good  meeting.   She  was 
checking  her  Blackberry  quite  a  bit  because  Nettie  was 
supposed  to  be  calling  her,  which  we  understand.   That's 
fine.   We  had  a  good  discussion.   It  got  heated  a  couple 
times,  but  generally  good.   So  thank  you  for  that  time, 
two  hours  of  her  time,  which  we  thought  was  well  spent. 

We  have,  though,  some  concerns,  and  I  will  be 
very  brief,  I  promise,  because  many  of  them  have  been 
covered  already. 

Senator  Cedillo  raised  the  $5,000  fine  issue, 
and  he  is  completely  correct.  And  we  wholly  agree  that 
if  there  is  an  issue  with  a  $5,000  fine,  the  remedy  for 
that  is  not  to  create  a  legal  opinion,  but  to  come  back 
to  the  legislature  and  figure  out  a  way  to  make  it  work 
better . 

It  is  important  to  remember  from  our  standpoint 
that  there  are  --  First  of  all,  there  are  many,  many 


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good  employers  in  this  state,  but  there  are  many  bad 
employers  who  don't  treat  their  workers  very  well.   And 
we  must  have  penalties  that  are  more  than  slaps  on  the 
wrists  for  those  employers  who  find  themselves  in 
trouble  for  keeping  an  unsafe  workplace. 

We  believe  when  employers  know  that  they're 
going  to  get  penalized  for  something  but  that  it  will 
get  whittled  down  to  pennies  on  the  dollar,  they  are 
less  inclined  to  be  fearful  of  Cal  OSHA  or  the  appeals 
board  process,  and  it's  that  fear  that  keeps  workplaces, 
we  believe,  safe. 

Again,  not  all  employers  are  bad.   We 
understand  that,  and  we  believe  that. 

Secondly  -- 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   All  those  in  favor  of  that 
propos  it ion? 

MR.  SMITH:   Secondly,  the  scheduling  of  several 
cases  in  one  day.   Now,  we  understand  there  was  a 
backlog,  and  we're  glad  the  backlog  is  taken  care  of, 
because  obviously  that's  not  good  for  workers  either. 
The  docket  needs  to  be  clear.   But  we  are  concerned  that 
scheduling  several  cases  in  one  day  leads  the  DOSH  -- 
the  Cal  OSHA  attorney's  prosecutors  to  settle,  right, 
to  get  to  the  point.   That's  what  you  want  me  to  do, 
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CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Exactly. 

MR.  SMITH:   They  want  to  get  to  the  end  of  the 
case.   Again,  settling  cases  is  a  slap  on  the  wrist  -- 
for  pennies  on  the  dollar  is  a  slap  on  the  wrist  for 
employers.   They  need  to  be  held  accountable  by 
penalties  for  what  they  have  done. 

Senator  Steinberg,  you  passed  AB  1127  to  raise 
penalties.   You  understand  that.   You  did  this. 

The  continuances.   It's  important  to  know  that 
this  is  something  that  employers  and  DOSH  staff,  Cal 
OSHA  staff  --  Sometimes  there  are  legitimate  reasons  for 
continuances.   I'm  sorry.   I  know  of  one  in  particular 
where  a  legal  counsel  for  an  employer  needed  to  sit  for 
the  bar,  and  the  continuance  was  not  given  to  the 
employer's  legal  counsel.   Now  I'm  here  for  the 
employees.   This  is  an  employer  problem,  and  I've  heard 
from  employer  --  employment  --  employer  representatives 
that  this  is  a  concern. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   The  bar  is  given  every  six 
months .   What ' s  the  problem? 

MR.  SMITH:   That's  true. 

I  will  make  a  couple  more  quick  points.   When 
you  have  this  culture  of  settlement,  it's  going  to  lower 
the  average  of  case  time.   You  mentioned  you  were 
impressed  with  two  years  to  nine  months .   When  cases  get 


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settled  in  a  month  or  two  months,  it's  going  to  lower 
the  average  pretty  fast. 

And  I  want  to  let  Ms.  Oropeza  know  that  in  the 
Kinder  Morgan  situation  that  was  discussed  before  I  came 
up  here,  we  did  reach  out  to  the  appeals  board.   It  was 
a  laborers'  worker  who  was  involved,  and  we  decided  to 
let  the  laborers  handle  this  on  their  own.   They  got  the 
letter,  we  got  the  letter.   We  spoke  to  Jose  Me j ia  from 
the  laborers.   He  said,  "We  will  take  care  of  it  on  our 
end."   So  we  did  reach  out  to  the  board  on  that. 

I  will  just  end  with  this.   Now  that  the 
backlog  is  complete,  almost  complete,  we  hope  that  the 
way  of  doing  business  at  the  appeals  board  will  get 
better,  in  our  opinion,  in  terms  of  scheduling  more  and 
more  hearings,  in  terms  of  urging  settlements. 

We  understand  the  need  to  get  through  a 
backlog,  but  moving  forward,  there  is  no  backlog.   We 
feel  justice  is  better  served  when  cases  are  allowed  to 
be  heard  in  a  manner  that  is  good  for  all  members  who 
have  business  before  the  appeals  board.   So  with  that, 
I'll  finish. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Great.   Very  good 
testimony.   Thank  you. 

Next.   Come  on  up,  please. 

MS.  MURPHY:   Good  afternoon,  committee  members 


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and  Senator  Pro  Tern. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Speak  into  the  mic  . 

MS.  MURPHY:   My  name  is  Suzanne  Murphy.   I'm 
the  executive  director  and  attorney  for  Worksafe,  which 
is  a  nonprofit  organization  based  in  Oakland.   I  know 
you're  familiar,  maybe  some  of  the  other  members  are 
not  . 

We  --  One  of  our  largest  projects  is  to  support 
a  coalition  of  activists  from  labor  and  environmental, 
legal  services  programs,  OSHA  and  health  professionals, 
workers,  vendors,  and  other  groups  that  provide  services 
to  and  advocate  for  strong  and  effective  OSH  laws  and 
effective  remedies  for  workers  who  are  injured  on  the 
job.   We  have  a  special  focus  on  workers,  the  most 
vulnerable,  low-wage  immigrant  workers,  many  of  whom  are 
not  represented  by  unions. 

I'm  here  today  to  speak  in  opposition  to  the 
appointment  of  Ms.  Traeger  to  a  second  four-year  term  as 
chair  of  the  OSHA  Appeals  Board.   Worksafe  believes  the 
committee  should  send  the  nomination  back,  because  under 
Ms.  Traeger 's  leadership,  the  appeals  board  has  adopted 
policies  and  has  issued  substantive  rulings  that  have 
significantly  undermined  worker  health  and  safety. 
They've  ignored  court  rulings.   They've  unilaterally 
revised  laws  passed  by  the  legislature,  and  in  our 


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experience  have  nearly  decimated  the  morale  of  the  many- 
dedicated  employees  in  the  Division  of  Occupational 


Safety 

and  Health,  or  DOSH,  whose  efforts  to  vigorously 

afford 

to  California  health  and  safety  laws  which  are, 

we  believe,  quite  rightly  among  the  strongest  in  the 

nation, 

have  been  thwarted  on  numerous  occasions . 

Many  of  the  concerns  I  had  planned  to  raise 

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ave  already  been  raised  by  the  members  of  the 

committee  and  other  witnesses,  so  I  won't  dwell  on  any 

of  them 

I  will  try  to  move  through  them  as  quickly  as 

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We  definitely  at  Worksafe  share  the  concerns  of 

the  oth 

er  witnesses  and  committee  members  about  the 

imbalance  on  the  OSHA  Appeals  Board  over  the  last 

two-plus  years  with  only  a  management  representative  and 

a  public  representative,  but  with  no  voice  for  the 

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intende 

d  to  protect.   We  are  really  gratified  to  hear 

the  committee  is  predicting  that  the  seat  will  be  filled 

soon . 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:   Hoping,  anyway. 

THE  WITNESS:   We're  hopeful  as  well. 

We  are  also  very  deeply  troubled  by  some  of 

what  we 

see  as  the  docket  clearing  practices  and  tactics 

that  have  been  adopted  by  Ms .  Traeger  during  her  tenure 

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on  the  first  term  to  clean  up  the  large  backlog  of 
appeals  that  have  accumulated  following  enactment  of 
AB  112  7. 

That  bill  was  passed  and  --  by  the  legislature 
and  signed  by  the  governor  specifically  to  raise 
penalties  and  to  implement  a  number  of  other  measures 
that  were  designed  to  improve  and  strengthen  worker 
health  and  safety  protections.   What  we  see,  however, 
and  we  believe  Ms.  Traeger's  policies  have  done  this,  is 
that  the  hearing  policies  that  have  already  been 
discussed  pretty  thoroughly  have  effectively  forced  the 
DOSH  inspectors,  attorneys,  district  managers,  and  the 
rest  of  the  DOSH  staff,  to  abandon  numerous  meritorious 
cases,  or  settle  employers'  cases  at  a  deep  discount  in 
order  to  conserve  their  limited  resources  to  go  to 
hearing  only  on  the  most  pressing  cases. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Is  that  their  fault?   The 
resource  question. 

MS.  MURPHY:   Well,  that's  --  We  would  certainly 
love  to  see  you  all  give  Cal  OSHA  a  lot  more  resources 
to  have  more  inspectors.   They  have  one  inspector  for 
every  93,000  employees  in  California  at  this  point  in 
time,  and  their  workload  is  crushing. 

I  don't  hear  any  of  them  actually  complaining 
about  workload.   What  they  complain  about  is  their 


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their  mission  of  protecting  worker  health  and  safety. 

3  So,  yes,  I  understand  the  resource  limitations, 

4  but  it  is  their  experience  that  the  policies  that  have 

5  been  implemented  to  overbook  hearings,  to  deny 

6  continuances,  to  eliminate  local  hearing  sites,  have 

7  just  basically  put  them  in  an  untenable  position  of  not 

8  being  able  to  do  their  job  and  to  act  in  a  professional 

9  manner. 

10  I  would  also  add  that  from  what  we  have  heard 

11  and  understand,  even  though  the  backlog  is  now 

12  ostensibly  fixed  and  cleared,  the  policy  of  overbooking 

13  hearings  and  granting  --  denying  continuances  are  still 

14  continuing  as  recently  as  this  week. 

15  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   In  her  closing,  I'm  going 

16  to  ask  Ms.  Traeger  to  respond  to  that,  because  it's  come 

17  up  now  a  couple  times. 

18  If  the  backlog  is  now  cleared,  what  is  the 

19  policy  going  forward  in  terms  of  the  consolidation  of 

20  cases  and  the  requests  for  continuances?   That's  a  very 

21  fair  question. 

22  Let's  move  to  the  next  witness. 

23  Thank  you.   Were  you  done? 

24  MS.  MURPHY:   I  have  a  couple  more  things. 

25  THE  REPORTER:   Please  slow  down. 


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MS.  MURPHY:   Worksafe  is  also  deeply  concerned 
.about  a  number  of  key  substantive  positions  that  have 
been  issued  by  the  board  during  Ms.  Traeger's  first 
term  . 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:   You're  talking  faster. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    It's  really  a  fine 
balance.   We  want  to  make  sure  we  don't  talk  too  fast. 
On  the  other  hand,  we  need  to  move  these  hearings  along 
here  too.   Just  like  the  backlog.   Go  ahead. 

MS.  MURPHY:   In  several  key  cases,  there's  a 
list  of  substantive  decisions  from  the  board.   We 
believe  that  the  board,  under  Ms.  Traeger,  has 
significantly  undermined  the  important  health  and  safety 
protections  embodied  in  the  statutes,  regulations,  and 
prior  decisions. 

In  many  of  these  cases,  the  board  actually 
reached  out  proactively  to  take  up  cases  from  the 
ALJ  decisions,  not  at  the  urging  of  a  site  of  an 
employer  or  DOSH,  but  only,  it  appears,  to  affect 
changes  in  what  was  previously  settled  law  and  more 
protected  law.   One  example  is  the  case  --  the  Calloway 
case,  which  has  already  been  discussed  about  the  $5,000 
fine  for  failure  to  report  serious  injury. 

But  Worksafe  has  had  very  difficult  and 
firsthand  experience  with  another  case  in  which  the 


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I  Traeger  board  set  out  on  its  own  motion  to  weaken  health 
and  safety  protections.   In  that  instance,  these 

3  protections  were  required  by  federal  law  for  workers 

4  employed  on  multi-employer  work  sites,  generally  in  the 

5  construction  industry. 

6  In  early  2007,  Ms.  Traeger  issued  a  decision 

7  after  reconsideration  in  the  Harris  construction  case 

8  that  constitutes  a  dramatic  about-face  from  the  board's 

9  prior  liberal  interpretation  of  the  controlling  employer 

10  liability  provisions.   There  were  individually  adopted 

11  mult i -  employer  regulations  and  then  later  codified  in  AB 

12  1127  by  the  legislature. 

13  What  we  believe  is  the  board's  efforts  to 

14  narrow  these  important  health  and  safety  laws  not  only 

15  flies  in  the  face  of  a  1975  California  Supreme  Court 

16  decision  that  directs  the  board  to  interpret  health  and 

17  safety  laws  liberally  and  give  them  broad  application, 

18  but  it  also,  that  DAR  in  the  Harris  construction  case, 

19  specifically  defied  the  ruling  of  the  Court  of  Appeal 

20  in  the  3rd  District  here  in  Sacramento,  who  had  rejected 

21  effectively  the  same  rule  just  months  earlier.   So 

22  that's  a  real  serious  concern. 

23  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    If  you  could  sum  up,  I 

24  would  appreciate  it. 

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CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   We  get  the  import  that  you 
believe  that  the  board  is  not  following  the  spirit,  if 
not  the  letter,  of  1127  and  some  other  Court  of  Appeal 
precedents  that  are  more  protective  of  working  people. 

MS.  MURPHY:   I  can  move,  then,  to  my  last 
point,  which  is  to  comment  on  Ms.  Traeger's 
pronouncement  that  this  is  going  to  be  the  year  of 
customer  service  in  the  OSHA  Appeals  Board. 

While  I  greatly  appreciate  the  stakeholder 
process  that  has  been  instituted,  not  yet  activated,  but 
announced  for  the  coming  months,  I  just  have  to  note 
ironically  that  --  The  first  federal  OSHA  director 
appointed  by  George  Bush,  John  Hinshaw,  had  startled 
career  officials  in  the  federal  OSHA  agency  by  telling 
them  the  need  for  --  that  the  employers  are  the  real 
customers  of  OSHA,  not  the  nation's  workers.   And  one 
career  staffer  was  quoted  as  saying  -- 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   What  does  that  have  to  do 
with  Ms .  Traeger? 

MS.  MURPHY:   It  has  to  do  with  the  year  of 
customer  service. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   That  -- 

MS.  MURPHY:   Let  me  try  to  get  to  the  point  on 
that  . 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Please. 


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MS.  MURPHY:   What  this  career  staffer  said  was 
everybody  was  pretty  amazed,  because  they  believed  their 


purpose  was 

to  ensure  worker  health  and  safety,  not  to 

preserve  the 

interest  of  employers. 

We 

respectfully  submit  that  this  federal 

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OSHA  staffer  had  it  exactly  right,  and  that  some  of 

the 

policies 

and  practices  and  decisions  of  the  board  in 

recent  years 

suggest  strongly  to  us  that  Ms.  Traeger  and 

the 

current 

board  have  it  backwards,  like  Mr.  Hinshaw 

did, 

that  in 

our  view  the  committee  should  reject 

Ms  . 

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s  nomination  to  another  four-year  term;  or, 

at  a 

minimum 

,  we  want  to  impress  upon  Ms.  Traeger  that 

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elieve  the  most  important  customers  are  the  17 

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right  to 

a  safe  and  healthy  workplace  -- 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   That's  it.   Thank  you. 

MS  . 

MURPHY:   --  and  the  right  to  effective 

enforcement 

of  health  and  safety  laws. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Thank  you.   I  believe  we 

have 

a  quest 

ion  from  Senator  Aanestad. 

SENATOR  AANESTAD:   I'm  a  little  surprised  here. 

I  ■  m 

looking 

at  today's  dated  memo  7,  Rules  Committee 

staff,  which 

says  we  received  no  oppositions  to  this 

appointment . 

Yet  I  have  just  heard  15  minutes  of 

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gations 

of  Cal  OSHA  employee  dissatisfaction  and 

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worker  health  and  safety  violations  or  endangerment  by 
this  nomination. 

I  guess  my  question  is:   Being  new  to  this 
committee,  this  is  pretty  significant  opposition.   Why 
was  I  not  able  to  prepare?   Maybe  I  would  have  liked  to 
have  known  --  If  there  was  going  to  be  opposition,  I 
would  like  to  talk  to  some  of  the  employees  myself 
regarding  the  alleged  dissatisfaction,  or  workers,  where 
their  health  and  safety  has  been  of  concern.   But 
instead,  I  came  into  this  meeting  saying  or  reading  that 
there  was  no  opposition  to  this. 

Why  am  I  surprised?   Why  are  you  here  at  this 
late  notice  without  letting  us  know? 

MS.  MURPHY:   Well,  I  was  not  contacted  myself 
by  committee  staff,  but  I  understood  that  many  of  the 
concerns  I  am  raising  today  had  already  been  transmitted 
to  the  staff . 

SENATOR  AANESTAD:   There  was  no  letter  of 
opposition  from  you? 

MS.  MURPHY:    No. 

SENATOR  AANESTAD:   Thank  you. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Thank  you  very  much, 
Ms .  Murphy . 

You  know,  as  the  author  of  1127,  your  points 
are  very  well  taken.   I  don't  know  that  I  agree  or 


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1  disagree,  because  there's,  obviously,  a  difference  in 

2  terms  of  what  various  experiences  have  been  before  the 

3  Traeger  board.   But,  you  know,  your  testimony  was,  I 

4  think,  very,  very  important  in  terms  of  -- 

5  I  know  Worksafe  and  I  know  Fran  Schrieber.   I 

6  know  the  work  you  do,  and  we  take  your  testimony  very 

7  seriously. 

8  THE  WITNESS:   And  I  apologize  for  not  having 

9  submitted  a  letter  in  advance.   I  didn't  understand  that 

10  was  a  prerequisite.   It's  my  first  hearing. 

11  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Now  you  do.   You  did  a 

12  good  job.   Thank  you. 

13  MS.  GUZMAN:   Good  afternoon.   I'm 

14  Martha  Guzman.   I'm  with  California  Real  Legal 

15  Assistance  Foundation,  and,  you  know,  one  of  the 

16  approaches,  really,  that  can  be  taken  now  and  in  the 

17  future  that  we  wished  would  have  been  taken  in  the  past 

18  is,  actually,  the  appeals  board  act  as  an  enforcer  with 

19  restricted  amount  of  use  in  terms  of  upholding  the 

20  penalties . 

21  When  you  have  employers  viewing  the  appeals 

22  board  as  a  body  to  go  to  to  eliminate  fines,  guess  what? 

23  You're  going  to  get  a  lot  of  employers  appealing  the 

24  decisions  from  DOSH .   It's  that  simple.   So  if  you  want 

25  to  actually  do  something  about  backlog,  you  actually 


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have  to  uphold  the  penalties.   And,  in  fact,  if  you  want 
to  use  your  discretion,  like  other  agencies  do,  you  can 
actually  increase  those  penalties. 

I  paid  more  last  week  for  a  speeding  ticket 
going  45  miles  in  a  35-mile  zone  than  an  employer  did  in 
a  fatality  case.   How  is  that  acceptable? 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Which  case  is  that? 

THE  WITNESS:   This  is  the  2007  death  down  in 
Kern  County. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Ms.  Traeger,  can  you 
respond  to  that  in  closing. 

MS.  GUZMAN:   Let  me  say  in  anticipating  some  of 
the  response,  because  she  was  concentrating  on  the  six 
decisions  that  came  to  the  actual  board  and  not  all  of 
the  decisions  that  ALJs  have  settled  and  all  of  the 
other  decisions  that  have  actually  been,  in  this 
culture  --  I'm  not  going  to  say  forced,  because  they're 
not  really  forcing  the  settlements,  but  encouraged  in 
the  culture,  not  in  writing  or  anything  else,  but  this 
is  what  we're  seeing,  is  that  the  ALJs  are  dealing  with 
more  of  these  settlements.   Clearly,  it's  not  going  to 
go  all  to  the  board. 

These  cases  --  I  think  Senator  Cedillo  was 
bringing  this  up  with  the  mandatory  minimum  penalty 
thing.   As  a  board  you  really  do  have  influence  over  the 


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1  ALJs .   You  can  tell  them  how  to,  in  fact,  interpret  the 

2  law  and  how  you  want  the  law  interpreted.   And  if  you're 

3  condoning  the  ALJs  to  dismiss,  practically,  these 

4  penalties  which  DOSH  --  I  mean,  in  that  case  it  wasn't 

5  even  that  harsh  of  a  penalty.   It  was  like  $13,000  or 

6  something . 

7  So  we ' re  not  even  talking  about  reducing 

8  penalties  that  are,  perhaps,  in  one  of  the  other,  what 

9  DOSH  says  frequently  in  looking  at  the  economic  hardship 

10  to,  quote,  unquote,  small  employers,  and  they  already 

11  slashed  the  fines  significantly.   We're  talking  about  a 

12  second  process  here. 

13  And  I  do  want  to  back  up  a  little  bit  saying 

14  the  nomenclature  of  this  client  is,  in  fact,  talking 

15  about  the  employer.   This  is  a  nomenclature  that  is 

16  referring  to  the  employer.   If  we're  talking  about  DOSH 

17  and  those  cases,  the  employer  is  going  from  the  level  of 

18  DOSH's  penalties,  and  they  are  viewing  the  appeals  board 

19  as  their  board  to  get  them  their  penalties  reduced.   And 

20  right  now,  through  this  chairmanship,  that  is,  in  fact, 

21  how  the  chairmanship  is  doing  it. 

22  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   What  is  your  position? 

23  MS.  GUZMAN:   I  recognize  this  committee  is 

24  under  a  tight  time  constraint,  and  I  recognize  that  the 

25  chairwoman  is  actually  filling  her  slot  very  well  in 


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representing  the  management  position,  but  we  have  no 
balance  on  that  board. 


CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG: 

Might  I  interrupt  you, 

j  ust 

because  i 

t  might  be  the 

appropriate  time  for  me  to 

make 

an  announcement,  which 

is  that  in  anticipation  of 

this 

hearing , 

the  Pro  Tern ' s 

Office  has  been  pressing  the 

governor  very 

hard  to  actual 

ly  fill  that  slot.   Senator 

Orop 

=za  raised 

the  issue  in 

her  questioning. 

And  I 

now  have  the 

commitment  that  the  governor 

will 

,  in  fact, 

fill  the  labor  slot,  quote,  "very  soon." 

So  I 

1 m  trying 

to  get  some  de 

finition  as  to  what  "very 

soon 

'  is.   So 

I  expect  very 

soon . 

So  on 

the  part  of  y 

our  advocacy  and  the 

advocacy  of  th 

e  other  witnesses  here  who  have  expressed 

concerns,  not 

so  much  about 

Ms.  Traeger  personally,  but 

about  the  operation  of  the  b 

oard  and  the  glaring 

omission,  the 

fact  that  for 

such  a  long  time  the  labor 

slot 

has  not  b 

een  filled,  because  of  your  advocacy  we 

have 

been  able 

to  receive  a 

commitment  that  that  slot 

will 

be  filled 

expeditiously 

So  good  work . 

MS.  GUZMAN:   Mr.  President,  with  all  due 

respect  to  the 

governor,  and 

I'm  sure  you  trust  his  word 

better  than  I 

do,  but  I  would  request,  perhaps,  you  not 

confirm  her  on 

the  Senate  fl 

oor  until  you  have  that 

confirmation  in  place.   That 

's  just  a  humble  request. 

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CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Thank  you  for  your 
suggestion.   Anything  else? 

3  MS.  GUZMAN:   No.   Thank  you  very  much. 

4  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   All  right.   Appreciate  it. 

5  Is  there  a  motion  on  the  nomination? 

6  SENATOR  DUTTON :   Moved. 

7  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Moved  by  Senator  Dutton. 

8  Let  me  make  a  couple  comments  here. 

9  Well,  I  want  Ms.  Traeger  to  have  an  opportunity 

10  to  respond  to  a  couple  things . 

11  Go  ahead. 

12  MS.  TRAEGER:   I'm  kind  of  excited  by  the 

13  opportunity  to  respond.   I'm  going  to  ask  --  If  you 

14  don't  mind,  I  did  bring  one  chart.   It's  on  penalty 

15  reduction.   And  because  this  has  been,  I  think,  such  a 

16  misunderstanding,  that  people  believe  that  the  appeals 

17  board  drastically  reduces  fines,  I  think  it's  time  that 

18  we  show  people. 

19  And  what  I  did  was  we  actually  have  to  hand- 

20  collect  material.   Our  system  doesn't  do  it  very  well. 

21  So  what  I  did  was  --  although  I  think  this  says  2002, 

22  2007,  and  2007,  it's  actually  2007  and  2008. 

23  What  it  shows  you  --  I  went  back  to  2002, 

24  because,  of  course,  I  wanted  to  see  what  was  happening 

25  then  versus  what's  happening  now,  and  the  blue  on  this 


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chart  --  the  dark  blue  on  the  chart  shows  the  original 
citation  amount.   If  you  look  at  2002  first,  you  see 
it's  a  little  bit  over  six.   It's  6.4  million,  it  looks 
like.   That  was  the  original  citation  amount. 

The  next  number  is  what  DOSH  proposed  that  that 
amount  be  reduced  to.   When  I  say  that,  I'm  talking 
about  stipulations,  which  is  obviously  where  the  parties 
write  up  their  agreement  themselves.   The  other  one  is  a 
party  agreement  via  an  order.   They  talked  to  a  judge, 
usually  at  a  prehearing,  but  they  asked  the  judge  to 
then  embody  their  agreement  via  an  order,  which  the 
board  does  take  the  party  agreement  to  be  an  order. 
It's  often  easier  for  the  parties  than  writing  a 
stipulation  for  the  board  to  issue  an  order,  and  it  has 
the  additional  scrutiny  of  an  AL J . 

So  the  party  agreement  is  the  majority  of  the 
way,  and  in  this  case  you  see  where  that  penalty  has 
been  reduced.   DOSH ' s  average  reduction  is  about 
64  percent,  and  that's  what  I'm  talking  about,  the 
stipulation  and  the  orders.   A  lot  of  people  mistake 
that  for  the  appeals  board  and  think  that  the  appeals 
board  has  reduced  where  the  parties  have  actually 
agreed,  and  the  parties  again  being  DOSH  and  the 
employers . 

So  if  you  look  over  these  years,  the  next  year 


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was  2006.   I  got  my  numbers  all  messed  up  there,  but 
2006  you  see  about  14  million  that  was  in  the  original 
citation  amount,  and  then  you  see  what  DOSH  proposed  was 
about  4.2  million,  and  then  what  the  board  assessed, 
which  was  about  --  it  looks  like  4.1. 

So  the  board,  via  a  hearing  where  we  actually 
issue  a  decision,  does  reduce  it  sometimes,  and  that 
average  is  about  6  percent  reduction  off  of  what  DOSH 
suggested . 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   That's  a  good  argument, 
but  I  think  it  misses  the  point  by  the  advocates,  which 
is  that  the  culture  is  such  that  --  the  culture  is  such 
that  from  the  beginning  of  the  citation  period  to  the 
time  the  case  is  settled,  that  there  is  sort  of  a 
red  light  there  that  --  you  know,  "Settle  the  case, 
settle  the  case, "  and  therefore  you're  seeing  a  more  . 
precipitous  drop  from  the  original  citation  amount,  even 
what  DOSH  does.   So  it's  not  just  DOSH  and  the  appeals 
board.   It's  from  the  beginning  where  an  investigator 
says,  "This  is  serious.   There  ought  to  be  a  citation 
this  large."   The  allegation  is  that  because  there's 
sort  of  a  warning,  this  fine  is  going  to  get  damped 
down.   One  way  or  another,  eventually  you're  saying  that 
they  drop.   That's  the  way  I'm  taking  it. 

Go  ahead. 


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MS.  TRAEGER:   You  know,  I  can't  really  speak  to 
the  parties  and  why  they  make  that  agreement.   I  think 
board  efficacy  is  probably  one  of  those  reasons,  but  I 
think  there  are  many  other  reasons  in  terms  of  proving  a 
case  and  so  on. 

At  any  rate,  I  am  concerned  about  it.   But  I 
did  mention  the  settlement  rate  has  always  been  high  at 
the  board.   When  I  say  "the  board, "  historically  with 
DOSH,  its  settlement  is  about  75  to  80  percent  before  I 
came,  and  now  it's  averaging  around  84.   So,  yes,  we 
have  increased  by  4  percent  the  number  of  settlements, 
but  I  think  a  lot  of  that  has  to  do  with  moving  cases 
forward  more  quickly,  looking  at  the  cases,  assessing 
and  evaluating  the  cases  for  both  DOSH  and  the  employer, 
and  deciding  if  they  want  to  proceed  to  court. 

At  any  rate,  the  board  usually  resolves  about 
5  percent  of  all  cases  via  hearing,  so  there's  not  that 
many  that  go  to  hearing,  although  we  are  having  more 
hearings  than  we  ever  had.   That  number  has  increased 
from  49  in  2004,  the  first  year  I  was  here,  to  about 
160  now.   So  we  do  more  hearings.   We  like  hearings,  we 
embrace  hearings,  but  yet  we  lose  judges  when  we  don't 
have  hearings.   We  like  hearings. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Who  is  your  customer? 

MS.  TRAEGER:   Everybody. 


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When  I  talk  to  customers,  I  mentioned  internal, 
which  is  the  people  at  the  board,  but  the  external 
customer  is  DOSH,  the  employer  that's  before  us,  the 
employee,  in  the  event  that  they  decide  to  either 
file  --  somebody  files  on  their  behalf  an  amicus  brief, 
or  it  becomes  involved  as  a  third  party. 

So  I  think  the  customer  world  externally  is 
anybody  that  is  before  the  appeals  board.   And  they're 
all  included,  by  the  way,  in  our  advisory  committee. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Okay.   Thank  you  very 
much,  Ms.  Traeger.   Thank  you  to  the  witnesses  for  a 
very  thorough  discussion. 

I'm  going  to  support  the  nomination,  as  a  hard- 
working public  servant  who  is  doing  a  good  job.   I  do 
hope  that  you  take  into  account  a  lot  of  what  you  heard 
today  and  some  of  the  concerns,  if  not  complaints. 

Again,  I  reflect  on  my  own  experience  here  as 
an  ALJ  who  worked  for  an  administrative  agency 
comparable  to  yours,  that  there  sometimes  can  be  a 
little  bit  of  a  competition  between  efficiency  and 
justice.   Not  always,  and  not  always  even  by  intent. 
And  there ' s  a  concern  raised  here  today  that  the 
pendulum  may  have  swung  too  far  in  your  zeal, 
appropriate  zeal,  to  be  efficient  and  reduce  the 
backlog . 


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So  as  you're  moving  forward,  especially  if  the 
backlog  is  reduced,  if  you  can  please  consider  the 
impact  of  what  seem  like  small  policy  decisions,  like 
the  policy  on  continuances,  the  policy  on  scheduling, 
the  amount  of  --  the  way  even  ALJs  approach  settlement 
discussions  at  times,  because  that  often  can  influence. 

And  I  do  want  our  labor  committee  here  in  the 
Senate  to  do  some  oversight  around  this  issue  of  fines. 
I  think  --  And  specifically  to  look  at  the  precedential 
decision  where  you  interpret  the  $5,000  limit  to  allow 
you  to  go  to  1,000,  because  that  may  be  appropriate  for 
legislation . 

And,  again,  I  want  to  announce  that  as  a  result 
of  the  advocacy  we  heard  today,  the  governor  has  made 
the  commitment  to  make  sure  that  the  labor  slot  is 
filled  as  well . 

Ms.  Traeger,  you're  an  excellent  public 
servant,  and  you  obviously  work  very,  very  hard,  and  I'm 
going  to  support  the  nomination. 

Is  there  a  motion?   It  looks  like  Senator 
Dutton.   Please  call  the  roll. 

MS.  BROWN:   Senator  Cedillo. 

SENATOR  CEDILLO:    Aye. 

MS.  BROWN:   Cedillo  aye. 

Dutton . 


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SENATOR  DUTTON:   Aye. 

MS.  BROWN:   Dutton  aye. 

Oropeza . 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:   Aye. 

MS.  BROWN:   Oropeza  aye. 

Aanestad . 

SENATOR  AANESTAD:   Aye. 

MS.  BROWN:   Aanestad  aye. 

Steinberg . 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Aye. 

MS.  BROWN:   Steinberg  aye. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Thank  you  very  much. 

MS.  TRAEGER:   Can  you  indulge  me  one  second? 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   The  family.   I  apologize. 

MS.  TRAEGER:   It's  okay.   My  family  on  the 
natural,  which  is  --  My  father  is  sick  and  wasn't  able 
to  attend  anyway,  but  I  have  a  family  --  many  families. 
The  family  of  friends  that  are  here,  I  would  like  if  you 
could  stand  up  for  a  second. 

Sandy  Garth,  very  good  friend  of  mine. 
Donna  Ponicker,  also  a  very  good  friend  of  mine. 

And  then  my  work  family,  who  many  of  them  came 
here  today,  and  some  I  didn't  know  were  coming.   The 
executive  officer  of  the  board,  Michael  Wibberly. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Welcome.   Thank  you. 


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MS.  TRAEGER:   Our  presiding  judge  who 
testified,  Manuel  Melgoza. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Thank  you  very  much, 
Judge . 

MS.  TRAEGER:   Teresa " McKeever ,  one  of  our 
supervisors.   Phyllis  Eldridge,  who  is  new  to  the  board, 
been  here  going  on  three  weeks . 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Welcome. 

MS.  TRAEGER:   She's  our  executive  sec.   And 
then  Mary  Christian,  who  also  testified. 

And  it's  --  you  know,  we  all  know  the  family  is 
what  makes  us  thrive  and  able  to  do  our  job. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   We  appreciate  you  all 
coming  today  and  your  public  service  as  well. 

Thank  you  very  much,  Ms.  Traeger .   Appreciate 
it  . 

All  right.   We  have  one  other  confirmation,  a 
governor's  appointee  subject  to  confirmation  but  not 
required  to  appear.   That's  Pamela  Giacomini,  a  member 
of  the  State  Board  of  Forestry  and  Fire  Protection. 

Is  there  a  motion  to  move  by  Senator  Oropeza? 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:   Motion  to  move. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Please  call  the  roll. 

MS.  BROWN:   Senator  Cedillo. 

SENATOR  CEDILLO:   Aye. 


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MS.  BROWN:   Cedillo  aye. 
Dutton . 

SENATOR  DUTTON:   Aye. 
MS.  BROWN:   Dutton  aye. 
Oropeza . 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:   Aye. 
MS.  BROWN:   Oropeza  aye. 
Aanestad . 

SENATOR  AANESTAD:   Aye. 
MS.  BROWN:   Aanestad  aye. 
Steinberg . 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Aye. 
MS.  BROWN:   Aye.   Steinberg  aye. 
CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   The  measure  passes. 
Thank  you  very  much. 

(Thereupon,  the  Senate  Rules  Committee  hearing 
adjourned  at  4:31  p.m.) 


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I,  INA  C.  LeBLANC,  a  Certified  Shorthand 
Reporter  of  the  State  of  California,  do  hereby  certify 
that  I  am  a  disinterested  person  herein;  that  the 
foregoing  transcript  of  the  Senate  Rules  Committee 
hearing  was  reported  verbatim  in  shorthand  by  me, 
INA  C.  LeBLANC,  a  Certified  Shorthand  Reporter  of  the 
State  of  California,  and  thereafter  transcribed  into 
typewriting . 

I  further  certify  that  I  am  not  of  counsel  or 
attorney  for  any  of  the  parties  to  said  hearing,  nor  in 
any  way  interested  in  the  outcome  of  said  hearing. 

IN  WITNESS  WHEREOF,  I  have  hereunto  set  my  hand 
this  (_Zjjj^_    day  of  jJ_&4M*&^L_  _,  2  009. 


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APPENDIX 


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E  OF  CALIFORNIA  -  THE  RESOURCES  AGENCY 


ARNOLD  SCHWARZENEGGER,  Governor 


JFORNIA  ENERGY  COMMISSION 

ICE  OF  THE  COMMISSIONERS 
NINTH  STREET 
5AMENTO.  CA  95814-5512 


December  18,  2008 


The  Honorable  Darrell  Steinberg 
Chairman,  Senate  Rules  Committee 
State  Capitol,  Room  420 
Sacramento,  CA  95814 


SUBJECT:     Responses  to  Senate  Rules  Committee  Questions 


Dear  Senator  Steinberg: 

I  look  forward  to  appearing  before  the  Senate  Rules  Committee  for  my  confirmation 
hearing  on  January  7,  2009.  Enclosed  are  my  written  responses  to  questions  posed  to 
me  by  the  Senate  Rules  Committee.  I  am  available  to  meet  with  you  or  other  members 
of  the  Rules  Committee  to  discuss  these  questions  or  to  address  other  issues  before 
the  hearing.  I  have  also  enclosed  the  latest  version  of  my  Statement  of  Economic 
Interests  (Form  700),  as  you  requested,  and  I  am  providing  additional  information  on  my 
professional  experience  and  background. 

During  my  first  year  of  my  term  on  the  Energy  Commission,  I  have  had  the  honor  of 
being  able  to  take  a  leadership  role  on  alternative  transportation  technology,  climate 
change,  renewable  energy,  power  plant  siting  and  other  issues.  I  am  currently 
overseeing  the  Energy  Commission's  renewable  energy  efforts  as  the  presiding 
member  of  the  Renewable  Energy  Policy  Committee.  I  am  also  the  associate  member 
of  the  Transportation  and  Siting  Policy  Committees. 

Prior  to  my  appointment  to  the  Energy  Commission,  I  served  as  director  of  the  California 
Climate  Initiative  at  Environmental  Defense.  Prior  to  going  to  Environmental  Defense,  I 
spent  four  years  at  the  Planning  and  Conservation  League  as  the  Natural  Resources 
Director,  General  Counsel,  and  most  recently,  acting  Executive  Director.  I  have  worked 
on  a  wide  range  of  California  natural  resource  and  environmental  protection  issues, 
including  the  Imperial  Irrigation  District  /  San  Diego  water  transfer,  forest  policy,  and  the 
California  Environmental  Quality  Act. 


Senate  Rules  Committee 

DEC  1  9  2008 
Appointments 


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Senator  Steinberg 
December  18,  2008 
Page  2 


Thank  you  for  the  opportunity  to  respond  to  your  questions.  If  you  have  further 
questions  or  require  additional  information,  please  do  not  hesitate  to  contact  me  at 
(916)  654-4001 ,  or  via  e-mail  at  kldougla@energy.state.ca.us 


Sincerely, 


Karen  Douglas 
Commissioner 


Enclosures 

cc:  Nettie  Sabelhaus 
Appointments  Director 


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Responses  to  Questions  from  the  Senate  Rules  Committee 
Energy  Commissioner  Karen  Douglas 


Statement  of  Goals 

1 .      What  are  your  goals  as  a  member  of  the  Energy  Commission?  What  do  you  hope 
to  accomplish  during  your  term?  How  will  you  measure  your  success? 

My  overarching  goal  as  a  member  of  the  Energy  Commission  is  to  facilitate  California's 
transition  to  a  low  carbon  energy  sector  and  economy  while  ensuring  that  Califomians 
continue  to  enjoy  the  benefits  of  reliable  and  affordable  electricity,  natural  gas  and 
transportation  fuel. 

Because  of  my  interest  and  background  in  climate  policy,  I  followed  the  joint  PUC/CEC 
AB  32  proceedings  with  great  interest.  While  I  was  not  a  member  of  the  Energy 
Commission's  AB  32  Committee,  I  was  able  to  provide  significant  input  into  the  joint 
recommendations  that  the  Energy  Commission  and  the  CPUC  provided  to  the  Air 
Resources  Board  this  fall.  Both  the  joint  decision  and  the  scoping  plan  subsequently 
adopted  by  the  Air  Resources  Board  underscore  the  importance  of  the  core  focus  of  the 
Energy  Commission  on  energy  efficiency  and  renewable  energy.  In  order  to  contribute 
to  statewide  greenhouse  gas  reductions  at  the  level  contemplated  in  the  scoping  plan, 
we  will  have  to  increase  the  climate  benefits  of  these  existing  programs  while  finding 
innovative  new  ways  to  achieve  further  energy  efficiency  savings  and  renewable  energy 
development. 

I  am  a  strong  supporter  of  a  33  percent  RPS  requirement,  and  in  fact  I  see  the  33 
percent  target  as  a  milestone  on  the  way  to  even  greater  reliance  on  renewable  energy 
beyond  2020.  While  I  recognize  that  achieving  the  33  percent  target  by  2020  will  not  be 
easy,  I  think  it  is  still  possible  provided  that  we  act  now  to  overcome  barriers  to 
renewable  energy  development  and  deployment  that  have  become  painfully  evident  in 
recent  years.  Thus  far  in  my  term  I  have  focused  on  finding  ways  to  reduce  siting 
conflicts  for  large-scale  renewable  energy  projects,  particularly  utility-scale  solar 
projects,  improving  planning  for  the  transmission  that  will  be  needed  to  support  needed 
renewable  energy  development,  and  the  evaluation  of  mechanisms  such  as  feed-in- 
tariffs  to  accelerate  development  and  deployment  of  renewable  energy  technologies 
utilizing  California's  existing  transmission  and  distribution  system. 

A  related  priority  of  mine  has  been  to  push  for  the  Energy  Commission  to  more  directly 
analyze  the  linkages  between  our  environmental  goals,  including  our  State  climate, 
renewable,  and  energy  efficiency  policy,  our  interest  in  retiring  or  repowering  old, 
inefficient  natural  gas  plants,  particularly  those  that  use  once-through  cooling,  our 
efforts  to  reduce  our  reliance  on  imports  of  electricity  from  coal  plants,  with  the  very 
important  work  that  the  Commission  does  to  forecast  energy  needs,  assess  and  plan  for 
needed  infrastructure  investments,  site  power  plants,  and  ensure  the  reliability  of 
California's  electricity  supply. 

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I  believe  that  new  energy  infrastructure  is  needed  in  California,  and  that  it  can  be  not 
only  consistent  with  our  long  term  environmental  goals  but  actually  integral  to  achieving 
those  goals.  By  better  assimilating  these  multiple  and  highly  interrelated  policy  goals 
into  our  long-term  planning,  we  will  improve  our  ability  to  achieve  these  goals  over  time. 
One  concrete  step  that  the  Energy  Commission  has  taken  to  initiate  this  work  was 
opening  up  an  informational  proceeding  on  how  the  Commission  can  better  analyze  the 
greenhouse  gas  implications  of  the  siting  of  individual  power  plants.  This  issue  raises 
larger  questions  about  the  current  functioning  and  future  development  of  the  electricity 
system  as  a  whole.  I  expect  these  issues  to  be  addressed  in  the  2009  Integrated 
Energy  policy  Report  (IEPR)  as  well  as  within  the  CEQA  context. 

Finally,  as  the  associate  member  of  the  Transportation  Committee,  I  am  very  involved  in 
the  implementation  of  AB  1 1 8.  I  have  been  very  closely  involved  in  the  implementation 
of  this  program  to  date,  and  believe  that  it  has  the  potential  to  provide  significant 
environmental  and  economic  benefits  to  California.  The  successful  implementation  of 
this  program  is  one  of  my  top  priorities  at  the  Commission. 

With  regard  to  all  of  these  priorities,  I  hope  to  measure  my  success  in  terms  of  concrete, 
specific  achievements  such  as  the  accomplishments  listed  in  answer  to  the  next 
question.  Of  course,  in  the  longer  term,  I  will  measure  my  success  not  only  in  terms  of 
my  ability  to  compile  a  list  of  specific  achievements,  but  more  broadly  in  terms  of 
whether  I  believe  that  my  work  on  the  Commission  has  helped  California  transition  to  a 
low  carbon  energy  sector  in  an  environmentally  and  economically  sustainable  way. 

2.      What  have  been  your  most  significant  accomplishments  as  a  member  of  the 
commission? 

I  served  as  the  lead  Energy  Commissioner  in  working  with  the  Resources  Agency  and 
the  Governor's  office  to  develop  EO  S_14-08,  which  establishes  a  33  percent  RPS  by 
2020  goal  for  the  State  and  calls  on  the  Energy  Commission  and  the  Department  of 
Fish  and  Game  to  expedite  the  siting  of  renewable  energy  projects  in  an 
environmentally  responsible  way.  Among  other  things,  the  EO  requires  the  Energy 
Commission  and  DFG  to  identify  preferred  areas  for  renewable  energy  development, 
create  a  Desert  Renewable  Energy  Conservation  Plan  to  guide  development  in  the 
Mojave  and  Colorado  Desert  regions  and  provide  additional  Guidance  to  the  RETI. 
While  completing  the  work  called  for  in  the  EO  will  require  a  significant  commitment  of 
resources,  this  is  exactly  the  kind  of  advance  planning  that  is  needed  to  lay  the 
groundwork  for  a  dramatic  acceleration  of  renewable  energy  siting  on  time  to  meet  a  33 
percent  RPS  requirement.  This  approach  also  has  great  potential  to  reduce  costs  to 
developers  and  ratepayers  by  improving  both  infrastructure  and  conservation  planning. 

Soon  after  I  arrived  at  the  Energy  Commission  I  began  to  work  with  our  staff  and  my 
fellow  Commissioner,  Jeff  Byron,  to  address  the  issue  of  GHG  emissions  in  our  power 
plant  siting  process.  The  Energy  Commission  is  the  Lead  Agency  for  the  CEQA  review 
of  thermal  power  plants  that  are  of  a  50  MW  or  larger  capacity.  Since  2003  the  Energy 


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Commission  has  required  applicants  to  project  GHG  emissions  that  will  result  from 
proposed  plants  and  then  to  report  on  actual  emissions,  but  to  date  we  did  not  have  any 
threshold  of  significance  to  determine  if  some  level  of  emissions  was  harmful  to  the 
environment  nor  did  we  require  any  kind  of  mitigation  for  any  perceived  impact.  Since 
we  have  begun  work  we  have  held  two  public  workshops  and  plan  on  developing 
guidance  on  how  to  address  this  issue  in  our  siting  cases  by  the  end  of  the  first  quarter 
of  next  year. 

As  I  discuss  in  my  answer  to  the  next  question  I  feel  that  one  of  the  greatest 
opportunities  for  advancing  renewable  energy  in  the  State  would  be  to  provide  greater 
certainty  to  developers  through  the  adopting  of  feed-in  tariffs  (FiTs)  similar  to  what  has 
been  adopted  in  much  of  Europe.  This  year  as  Chair  of  the  Renewables  Committee  I 
presided  over  a  series  of  workshops  exploring  the  history  and  use  of  FiTs  and  then 
recommendations  on  how  California  could  integrate  a  FiT  into  our  existing  procurement 
and  RPS  programs.  These  workshops  and  the  proceeding  have  produced  two  nearly 
complete  reports  on  FiTs  that  represent  the  most  complete  analysis  of  this  policy 
direction  that  the  State  has  ever  engaged  in. 

Finally,  I  am  quite  pleased  with  the  public  process  we  have  set  up  for  the 
implementation  of  AB  1 18  as  mentioned  above.  The  implementation  of  the  legislation 
represents  an  excellent  opportunity  to  meet  multiple  goals  that  the  State  shares: 
transitioning  towards  energy  independence  by  reducing  use  of  imported  fuels,  improving 
air  quality  and  fighting  climate  change  through  the  research  and  development  of 
alternative  fuels  and  vehicle  technology  and  spurring  job  growth  and  economic 
development  in  the  emerging  occupations  of  the  "green  economy".  We  have  put 
together  an  excellent  Advisory  Committee  to  help  develop  the  Investment  Plan  for  AB 
1 18  funds.  The  twenty-five  Advisory  Committee  members  represent  environmental, 
public  health,  and  labor  organizations,  fuel  and  technology  consortia,  academic 
institutions,  consumer  advocates,  venture  capitalists,  and  other  state  agencies.  This 
group  has  been  invaluable  in  assisting  us  in  developing  our  plan  and  I  believe  will 
continue  to  provide  us  with  excellent  advice  as  we  implement  this  program. 

Renewable  Energy 

In  its  Integrated  Energy  Policy  Report,  the  commission  is  required  to  conduct 
assessments  and  forecasts  of  all  aspects  of  energy  industry  supply,  production, 
transportation,  delivery  and  distribution,  demand,  and  prices.  The  commission  adopts 
an  Integrated  Energy  Policy  Report  every  two  years  and  an  update  every  other  year. 
In  2006  California's  Renewable  Portfolio  Standard  set  the  goal  of  increasing  the  portion 
of  electricity  derived  from  renewable  resources  and  sold  to  retail  customers  to 
20  percent  by  2010.  In  its  2008  Integrated  Energy  Policy  Report  Update,  the 
commission  states  that  it  believes  the  state  can  achieve  the  33  percent  renewables 
target  by  2020.  It  also  states  that  the  five  major  barriers  in  reaching  the  33  percent 
renewables  target  are:  transmission,  integration,  contract  delays/cancellations,  cost/rate 
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3.     Many  of  these  barriers  are  partly  or  wholly  within  the  jurisdiction  of  the  commission 
to  address,  or  at  least  bring  to  the  attention  of  other  energy  agencies  within  the 
executive  branch.  What  actions  has  the  commission  taken  to  begin  to  identify  and 
implement  ways  to  remove  these  barriers? 

The  Energy  Commission  has  a  varied  and  diverse  collection  of  authorities,  interests  and 
leverage  points  in  the  implementation  of  successful  renewable  energy  programs  in 
California.  Unfortunately,  due  to  the  fragmentation  of  roles  and  responsibilities  in  the 
State's  regulatory  and  planning  statutes  the  Energy  Commission  has  limited  ability  to 
enact  needed  reforms.  However,  the  Energy  Commission  has  implemented  program 
and  process  improvements  in  those  areas  that  we  do  have  authority  over,  and  has  used 
forums  such  as  the  Integrated  Energy  Policy  Report  (IEPR)  to  highlight  the  need  for 
program,  regulatory  and  legislative  changes  to  improve  renewable  energy  development 
in  the  State.  The  following  is  a  compilation  of  the  changes  we  have  made,  or  plan  to 
make,  to  our  own  programs  and  our  efforts  to  recommend  changes  to  areas  outside  of 
our  direct  authority. 

Transmission: 

The  permitting  of  transmission  lines  in  California  currently  suffers  from:  (1)  jurisdictional 
responsibilities  that  are  fragmented  and  overlapping;  (2)  environmental  analyses  that 
are  inconsistent;  (3)  inadequate  consideration  of  regional  and  statewide  benefits 
identified  during  the  transmission  planning  process;  and  (4)  long  delays  in  the  permitting 
process.  In  addition,  merchant  transmission  projects  in  California  are  not  subject  to 
state  permitting  and  instead  would  be  subject  to  local  agency  permitting,  which  could 
require  multiple  local  agency  reviews  because  of  the  linear  nature  of  transmission 
facilities. 

As  a  result,  existing  permitting  processes  can  create  duplication  between  local,  state, 
and  federal  agencies,  are  usually  very  lengthy,  and  frequently  result  in  the  rejection  of 
needed  projects  that  are  identified  in  the  transmission  planning  process.  Because  of 
the  jurisdictional  overlaps,  it  may  be  difficult  for  a  lead  agency  to  conduct  an 
environmental  review  of  the  entire  project  under  the  California  Environmental  Quality 
Act  (CEQA). 

Complicating  this  situation,  the  federal  government,  based  on  provisions  in  the  2005 
federal  Energy  Policy  Act  has  recently  established  a  National  Interest  Electric 
Transmission  Corridor  (NIETC)  covering  most  of  Southern  California  within  which  they 
would  be  able  to  preempt  state  permitting  authority,  if  State  permitting  of  transmission 
projects  is  not  carried  out  expeditiously  or  projects  are  not  subject  to  State  permitting. 
Thus,  a  federal  preemption  could  significantly  erode  California's  authority  to  make  land 
use  and  public  health  decisions.  California  could  ultimately  lose  its  ability  to  determine 
how,  where  and  when  to  expand  its  bulk  transmission  grid,  thereby  undermining  the 
state's  energy,  environmental,  and  economic  policy  goals. 

The  Energy  Commission  has  the  following  transmission  permitting,  planning  and 
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•  Permit  transmission  lines,  associated  with  thermal  power  plants  greater  than  50 
MW  to  the  first  point  of  interconnection  to  the  existing  grid  and  permit 
transmission  lines  that  connect  to  a  jurisdictional  power  plant. 

•  As  part  of  the  biennial  IEPR  proceeding,  prepare  a  strategic  transmission 
investment  plan  that  recommends  strategic  transmission  projects  needed  to 
ensure  reliability,  relieve  congestion,  and  meet  future  growth  in  electricity 
generation,  including  renewable  resources. 

•  Designate  transmission  corridors  on  non-federal  lands  for  future  use,  consistent 
with  the  strategic  transmission  investment  plan. 

Because  the  Energy  Commission  does  not  have  direct  approval  or  oversight  authority 
for  bulk  transmission  infrastructure,  we  have  focused  our  efforts  on  highlighting 
opportunities  for  improved  transmission  planning  and  permitting  through  forums  like  the 
IEPR  and  the  implementation  of  our  corridor  designation  program. 

Since  2003,  the  Energy  Commission  has  identified  the  state's  fragmented  approach  to 
planning  and  permitting  transmission  projects  as  a  significant  barrier  to  project  approval 
and  construction.  To  that  end,  the  Energy  Commission  has  recommended  better 
aligning  the  state's  transmission  and  generation  permitting  processes  with  improved 
planning  efforts  to  ensure  that  investments  in  the  state's  transmission  system  occur. 
The  Energy  Commission  has  also  identified  the  need  to  expand  the  state's  transmission 
system  and  improve  access  renewable  resources  in  every  IEPR  since  2004 

In  2004,  noting  both  the  lack  of  an  official  state  role  in  transmission  planning  and  the 
failure  of  the  existing  process  to  consider  broader  state  interests,  the  Legislature 
directed  the  Energy  Commission  in  Senate  Bill  1 565  (2004)  to  develop  a  Strategic 
Transmission  Investment  Plan  (STIP)  as  part  of  the  IEPR. 

In  its  2004  IEPR  Update  and  2005  IEPR,  the  Energy  Commission  recommended 
changes  to  the  California  ISO  tariff  that  would  facilitate  the  financing  and  development 
of  renewable  transmission  lines.  The  California  ISO  petitioned  the  Federal  Energy 
Regulatory  Commission  (FERC)  for  approval  of  this  category  of  transmission,  in  early 
2007  and  it  became  effective  on  January  1 ,  2008.  The  policy  promotes  the 
development  of  renewable  resources  by  allowing  smaller  projects  to  interconnect  with 
the  transmission  system  by  paying  a  pro  rata  share  of  new  transmission  costs  as 
projects  come  on  line  rather  than  the  first  generator  on  line  paying  for  the  entire  cost  of 
the  upgrade. 

In  the  2005  IEPR,  the  Energy  Commission  recommended  the  establishment  of  a 
statewide  corridor  planning  and  designation  process  to  plan  needed  corridors  and 
designate  them  for  future  use.  Designating  corridors  allows  for  earlier  environmental 
review.  Senate  Bill  1059  (2006)  recognized  the  importance  of  longer-term  transmission 
planning,  coordinated  with  local  land  use  permitting  activities,  and  authorized  the 


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Energy  Commission  to  designate  transmission  corridors  on  non-federal  land  to 
streamline  future  permitting  of  transmission  projects. 

In  late  2005,  Energy  Commission  staff  also  worked  with  the  CPUC  and  the  California 
ISO  to  better  integrate  electricity  transmission  planning  processes,  including  improving 
the  coordination  between  transmission  and  generation  planning  and  procurement. 
Beginning  in  2006,  the  Energy  Commission  and  California  ISO  staffs  collaboratively 
developed  a  single  transmission  planning  process  to  coordinate  the  Energy 
Commission's  IEPR  and  STIP  proceedings  with  the  California  ISO's  new  grid  planning 
process.  For  example,  the  Energy  Commission  provides  the  lEPR's  electricity  load 
forecast  and  other  planning  assumptions  to  the  California  ISO  for  their  analyses  of 
transmission  path  upgrades  and  specific  projects.  The  California  ISO  also  relies  upon 
the  IEPR  process  for  load-serving  entity  (LSE)  information  not  typically  available  to 
them,  supply  and  demand  assumptions,  and  the  identification  of  broad  statewide  policy 
preferences. 


In  early  2007,  the  Energy  Commission  initiated  a  rulemaking  to  establish  regulations  for 
the  implementation  of  Senate  Bill  1059  to  further  define  the  designation  process  and  the 
informational  requirements  for  future  corridor  designation  applications.  The  Energy 
Commission  adopted  the  final  regulations  in  2008. 

Concurrent  with  the  rulemaking,  the  2007  STIP  encourages  corridor  applications 
requesting  designations  on  non-federal  lands  to  accommodate  future  transmission 
projects  that  would  achieve  one  or  more  of  the  following  objectives: 

•  provide  access  to  renewable  resource  areas; 

•  interconnect  with  existing  federal  corridors  or  with  proposed  federal  corridors 
identified  under  Energy  Policy  Act  of  2005  section  368; 

•  preserve  existing  corridors  that  may  be  required  for  future  facility  upgrades 


The  state  has  undertaken  the  RETI  is  a  statewide  collaborative  planning  process 
intended  to  help  facilitate  and  coordinate  the  planning  and  permitting  of  renewable 
energy-related  transmission  and  generation  projects  needed  to  accommodate  the 
state's  renewable  policy  goals,  support  future  energy  policy,  facilitate  transmission 
corridor  designation,  and  minimize  the  duplication  of  efforts.  Energy  Commission  staff 
is  actively  participating  in  the  RETI  process  to  ensure  that  environmental  issues  and 
land  use  constraints  are  considered  during  the  development  of  conceptual  transmission 
plans  to  reach  high  priority  CREZs.  Commission  staff  is  providing  input  to  help  ensure 
that  any  short-term,  high  priority  transmission  plans  developed  in  RETI  consider  these 
issues  prior  to  the  development  of  project-specific  CPCN  applications,  so  that  projects 
submitted  to  the  CPUC  have  a  greater  likelihood  of  permitting  success.  In  addition,  the 
Energy  Commission  expects  that  longer-term  conceptual  transmission  plans  needed  in 
the  future  will  benefit  from  a  pro-active  analysis  of  routing  options  and  potential 


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designation  of  one  or  more  transmission  corridors  that  will  facilitate  the  eventual 
permitting  of  needed  transmission  projects. 

The  results  of  RETI  will  be  considered  in  the  Energy  Commission's  2009  IEPR  and 
STIP  as  part  of  a  comprehensive  evaluation  of  transmission  investments  needed  to 
ensure  reliability,  relieve  congestion,  and  meet  future  load  growth  and  generation, 
including,  but  not  limited  to  renewable  resources,  energy  efficiency,  and  other  demand 
reduction  measures.  This  will  include  an  evaluation  of  potential  transmission  corridors 
that  may  be  needed  to  help  achieve  state  policy  objectives. 

As  the  Associate  Member  of  the  Energy  Commission's  Siting  Committee,  I  oversee  the 
Energy  Commission's  transmission-related  activities,  which  include  participation  in 
RETI,  implementation  of  the  transmission  corridor  designation  process,  and 
development  of  the  Strategic  Transmission  Investment  Plan. 

Integration: 

A  major  barrier  to  increasing  the  amount  of  renewables  in  California  is  how  to  integrate 
large  amounts  of  variable  resources,  like  wind  and  solar,  into  the  system  while 
maintaining  grid  stability,  operation,  and  reliability.  Although  the  governor  has  set  a  goal 
of  meeting  20  percent  of  the  RPS  with  biomass  and  increases  in  geothermal  energy  are 
expected,  especially  in  the  Imperial  Valley,  signed  RPS  contracts  suggest  that  much  of 
the  RPS  is  expected  to  be  met  with  wind  and  solar  energy.  Adding  large  amounts  of 
wind  and  solar  renewable  energy  to  the  electricity  system  can  be  problematic  because 
the  rest  of  the  system  needs  to  be  able  to  adjust  to  larger  amounts  of  unexpected  drops 
and  unexpected  increases  in  energy  production.  Also,  California's  local  reliability 
requirements  call  for  load  to  be  met  primarily  with  local  resources,  and  many  renewable 
resources  are  located  outside  the  state's  10  load  centers. 

In  2007,  the  Energy  Commission  released  the  I ntermittency  Analysis  Project  Final 
Report,  which  evaluated  what  is  needed  for  the  transmission  system  to  accommodate 
generation  from  33  percent  renewables  by  2020,  assuming  high  levels  of  intermittent 
resources  like  wind.  The  study  found  that  with  significant  expansion  of  transmission  by 
2020,  it  is  feasible  to  operate  the  electricity  system  with  33  percent  renewables.  The 
Energy  Commission's  Public  Interest  Energy  Research  Program  also  funded  a  2008 
study  that  identified  major  issues  associated  with  integrating  large  amounts  of 
renewables  into  the  system  and  made  recommendations  on  how  to  facilitate  that 
integration. 

The  Energy  Commission  is  continuing  its  research  and  development  efforts  on 
emerging  technologies  that  can  help  integrate  renewables  into  the  system  and  offset  the 
impacts  of  intermittent  renewables,  such  as  energy  storage  to  provide  grid  support, 
development  of  a  "smart  grid"  to  provide  energy  management  options,  technologies  that 
provide  real-time  information  to  grid  operators  to  allow  them  to  adjust  the  system  as 
needed  quickly  and  effectively,  and  better  resource  forecasting  techniques  to  allow  grid 
operators  to  anticipate  and  respond  to  generation  fluctuations  that  can  affect  grid 
stability.  The  Energy  Commission's  research  and  development  is  focused  on  identifying 


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emerging  technologies  with  the  greatest  potential  to  support  intermittent  renewables, 
reducing  the  costs  of  those  technologies,  and  accelerating  their  commercialization. 

In  addition,  the  Energy  Commission  is  examining  alternatives  to  utility-scale  renewable 
generation,  such  as  distributed  renewables  and  renewable  heating  and  cooling 
technologies.  While  these  alternatives  are  not  counted  toward  California's  Renewable 
Portfolio  Standard  (RPS)  goals,  they  do  reduce  overall  electric  demand  which  will 
reduce  the  amount  of  large-scale  renewable  generation  needed  to  meet  those  goals. 
The  Energy  Commission  has  recommended  focusing  research  and  development  efforts 
toward  developing  a  targeted  program  to  address  barriers  to  the  commercial  success  of 
emerging  renewable  heating  and  cooling  technologies.  The  Energy  Commission  offers 
incentives  for  distributed  generation  wind  turbines  and  fuel  cells  through  the  Emerging 
Renewables  Program  and  distributed  generation  photovoltaics  on  new  residential 
construction  through  the  New  Solar  Homes  Partnership. 

The  California  ISO  has  initiated  its  Integration  of  Renewable  Resources  Program  with 
the  goal  of  supporting  the  integration  of  renewable  resources  into  the  California  power 
grid  to  fulfill  state  policy  objectives.  The  Energy  Commission  has  committed  to  working 
with  the  California  Independent  System  Operator  on  its  Integration  of  Renewable 
Resources  Program  to  ensure  that  grid  impacts  of  increasing  renewables  penetration 
are  appropriately  identified  and  addressed. 

Contract  delays/cancellations: 

The  Energy  Commission  first  identified  the  risk  of  under-procurement  of  renewable 
energy  in  the  2005  IEPR,  noting  that  state  experience  with  contracts  for  qualifying  small 
power  production  facilities  indicate  that  as  many  as  one  third  of  projects  did  not  result  in 
actual  procurement.  A  2006  Energy  Commission  study  found  that  a  minimum  overall 
contract  failure  rate  of  20-30  percent  should  generally  be  expected,  and  that  much 
higher  failure  rates  are  supported  by  historical  experience.  The  2005  IEPR  and  2006 
IEPR  update  recommended  that  the  CPUC  should  require  investor-owned  utilities  to 
procure  a  prudent  contract-risk  margin  of  at  least  30  percent  above  their  annual 
Renewables  Portfolio  Standard  targets. 

The  2006  IEPR  Update  also  recommended  that  FiTs-  fixed,  long-term,  technology- 
specific  prices  for  renewable  -  be  further  explored  as  a  strategy  to  reduce  the  risk  of 
contract  delays  or  failure.  The  2007  IEPR  further  recommended  that  the  CPUC  should 
immediately  implement  a  feed-in  tariff  for  all  RPS-eligible  renewable  up  to  20 
megawatts  in  size,  and  that  the  Energy  Commission  and  CPUC  should  collaborate  to 
develop  FiTs  for  larger  projects  incorporating  features  from  the  most  successful 
European  feed-in  tariffs.  Allowing  developers  to  anticipate  what  price  they  will  receive 
for  their  energy  would  provide  the  financial  certainty  needed  to  help  ensure  that 
renewable  contracts  result  in  actual  deliveries  of  energy  in  a  timely  way. 

As  the  presiding  member  of  the  Renewables  Committee,  I  participated  in  a  number  of 
Energy  Commission  workshops  in  2008  to  discuss  challenges,  opportunities,  and 
potential  structures  for  FiTs  in  California.  Based  on  information  presented  at  the 

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workshops,  the  2008  IEPR  Update  reiterated  the  recommendations  in  the  2007  IEPR 
that  the  CPUC  should  immediately  implement  a  feed-in  tariff  program  for  all  RPS- 
eligible  facilities  up  to  20  megawatts  in  size,  including  a  guaranteed  purchase  of  energy 
by  utilities,  technology-specific  prices  based  on  generating  costs,  and  a  decline  in  those 
prices  over  time.  The  Energy  Commission  has  offered  to  collaborate  with  the  CPUC  in 
developing  such  a  program. 

Cost/rate  impacts: 

There  are  concerns  that  an  increasing  penetration  of  renewables  will  be  accompanied 
by  increasing  electricity  costs  and  rates  in  California.  The  impact  of  renewables  on 
costs  and  rates  is  extremely  uncertain,  and  must  be  weighed  against  the  costs  of  the 
state  continuing  its  dependence  on  natural  gas  as  a  fuel  for  electricity  generation,  as 
well  as  the  potential  costs  of  catastrophic  climate  change.  The  continuing  volatility  of 
natural  gas  prices  puts  ratepayers  are  at  risk  since  utilities  pass  their  fuel  costs  directly 
onto  their  customers.  In  addition,  the  future  costs  for  fossil-fired  generators  to  comply 
with  greenhouse  gas  reduction  goals  and  subsequent  regulations  are  also  uncertain. 

The  Energy  Commission  intends  to  examine  the  link  between  increased  renewable 
energy  generation  and  natural  gas  prices  and  demand,  and  will  also  work  closely  with 
the  CPUC  in  their  analysis  of  the  cost  impacts  of  a  33  percent  renewable  electricity 
target  that  is  currently  underway.  The  Energy  Commission  will  also  update  its  analysis 
of  the  generation  costs  of  various  renewable  and  non-renewable  electricity  sources  to 
ensure  that  cost  analyses  are  based  on  the  most  accurate  information  available. 

Environmental  permitting: 

The  Energy  Commission  is  the  Lead  Agency  under  CEQA  for  thermal  power  plants  over 
50MW  in  size.  This  includes  solar  thermal  power  plants  and  geo-thermal  power  plants. 
This  does  not  include  solar  photovoltaic,  nor  wind  facilities.  If  the  proposed  power  plant 
is  on  Federal  land,  such  as  Bureau  of  Land  Management  (BLM)  or  U.S.Forest  Service, 
the  Energy  Commission  remains  the  Lead  Agency  for  CEQA  but  the  federal  agency  is 
concurrently  the  Lead  Agency  under  the  National  Environmental  Policy  Act  (NEPA). 
The  coordination  between  agencies  and  the  sheer  number  of  applications  the  BLM  has 
received  over  the  last  few  years  has  created  a  backlog  of  projects  facing  extensive 
processing  times  at  BLM  field  offices. 

The  number  and  size  of  proposed  large-scale  renewable  power  plants  in  CA  is  causing 
an  increasing  concern  among  citizens  and  agencies  about  the  lack  of  coordinated 
planning  and  siting  of  the  facilities  and  their  potential  direct  and  cumulative 
environmental  impact.  Many  of  these  new  facilities  are  proposed  in  ecologically 
sensitive  areas  that  could  require  significant  habitat  mitigation  and  restoration,  which 
must  be  factored  into  the  costs  and  development  schedules  of  the  projects. 

The  Energy  Commission  has  entered  into  a  Memorandum  of  Understanding  with  the 
BLM  to  provide  joint  NEPA  and  CEQA  review  and  to  streamline  the  environmental 
permitting  process  for  large-scale  solar  plants  in  the  California  desert.  In  addition,  the 


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Energy  Commission  is  working  closely  with  the  BLM  and  the  Department  of  Energy  on  a 
Solar  Programmatic  Environmental  Impact  Statement  (PEIS).  The  Solar  PEIS  will  help 
to  identify  broad  environmental  issues  associated  with  developing  large  solar  projects  to 
help  streamline  the  permitting  process  for  individual  projects.  The  BLM  will  apply  the 
policies  and  strategies  resulting  from  the  Solar  PEIS  when  deciding  to  issue  rights-of- 
way  for  solar  projects  on  BLM-managed  land. 

Governor  Schwarzenegger's  recent  Executive  Order  (EO)  S-14-08  establishes  the 
Renewable  Energy  Action  Team  comprised  of  the  Energy  Commission  and  the 
Department  of  Fish  and  Game  (DFG)  to  create  a  "one-stop"  process  for  permitting 
renewable  energy  facilities,  with  the  goal  of  cutting  the  application  time  for  certain 
projects  in  half.  This  will  be  achieved  through  the  creation  of  a  special  joint  streamlining 
unit  that  will  concurrently  review  permit  applications  filed  at  the  state  level  and  the 
designation  of  renewable  energy  development  areas.  The  Executive  Order  also 
underscores  California's  commitment  to  conserving  natural  communities  at  the 
ecosystem  scale  through  the  use  of  the  state's  unique  Natural  Community  Conservation 
Planning  (NCCP)  tool,  coordinated  by  DFG  and  the  Energy  Commission,  which  will 
identify  and  provide  for  region-wide  protection  of  plants,  animals,  and  their  habitats 
while  allowing  for  compatible  economic  activities  such  as  renewable  energy  generation. 
This  will  help  reduce  the  time  and  uncertainty  associated  with  building  new  renewable 
projects. 

In  addition  to  the  Executive  Order,  the  Energy  Commission,  DFG,  U.S.  Fish  and  Wildlife 
Service,  and  the  BLM  have  signed  a  Memorandum  of  Understanding  to  establish  a 
coordinated  approach  with  our  federal  partners  in  the  expedited  permitting  process.  This 
coordinated  approach  will  significantly  reduce  the  time  and  expense  for  developing 
renewable  energy  on  federally-owned  California  land,  including  the  priority  Mojave  and 
Colorado  Desert  regions. 

4.      The  commission  has  stated  at  recent  Energy  Policy  Report  Update  workshops  that 
one  of  its  major  roles  is  to  spearhead  the  transmission  readiness  process.  Please 
explain  the  commission's  role  in  the  siting  of  transmission  lines  for  renewable 
energy.  What  steps  have  you  taken  as  the  presiding  member  of  the  commission's 
Renewables  Committee  to  expedite  or  facilitate  siting  of  electricity  transmission 
lines  for  renewable  energy? 


As  mentioned  in  the  transmission  section  of  my  answer  to  the  previous  question,  the 
State  is  facing  some  very  daunting  and  complex  challenges  in  our  efforts  to  build  an 
electricity  grid  for  a  low-carbon  economy.  Yet  we  must  find  solutions  to  these  challenges 
because  it  is  clear  that  transmission  is  our  greatest  barrier  to  significant  expansion  of 
renewable  energy  generation  development  in  our  state.  Since  joining  the  Energy 
Commission  I  have  taken  a  very  active  role  in  a  number  of  initiatives  that  I  hope  will 
serve  to  expedite  the  permitting  and  construction  of  well-planned,  cost-effective 
transmission  infrastructure  in  an  environmentally-sensitive  manner. 


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I  have  been  very  active  in  working  with  the  rest  of  the  administration  and  the  Legislature 
in  identifying  options  that  the  State  may  consider  pursuing  to  overcome  our 
transmission  challenges  through  legislation  to  improve  and  advance  our  RPS  program. 
The  bifurcation  of  the  planning  and  permitting  of  new  transmission  infrastructure,  the 
multiple  jurisdictional  roles  of  the  entities  involved  and  the  lack  of  ability  to  consider  the 
regional  and  State-wide  benefits  of  proposed  projects  represent  significant  barriers  that 
I  hope  can  be  addressed  in  2009. 

As  mentioned  above  Governor  Schwarznegger's  EO  S-14-08  has  provided  clear 
direction  as  to  the  importance  of  renewables  to  the  achievement  of  the  State's 
environmental  and  economic  goals.  I  have  enjoyed  working  with  the  rest  of  the 
administration  to  define  the  Energy  Commission's  role  in  the  implementation  of  the  EO 
and  our  role  in  improving  planning  for  the  expansion  of  our  State's  renewable  energy 
infrastructure.  In  particular,  I  am  looking  forward  to  the  opportunity  to  work  with  our 
staff,  other  State  and  federal  agencies  and  stakeholders  to  identify  Renewable  Energy 
Development  Areas  and  develop  the  Desert  Renewable  Energy  Conservation  Plan.  As 
mentioned  above  in  my  answer  to  question  #2  these  two  new  initiatives  should  allow  the 
State  to  identify  those  areas  where  renewable  energy  development  can  be  located  so 
that  it  has  the  least  amount  of  environmental  impact  while  producing  the  greatest 
energy  production  benefit  to  the  State.  The  developer  and  environmental  protection 
certainty  that  should  be  gained  from  these  processes  have  the  potential  to  significantly 
improve  the  development  timeline  in  California. 


Climate  Change 

The  commission  is  involved  with  implementation  of  at  least  two  major  GHG  laws:  the 
Global  Warming  Solutions  Act  of  2006— AB  32  (Nunez),  Chapter  488,  Statutes  of 
2006 — directs  the  California  Air  Resources  Board  (ARB)  to  adopt  a  greenhouse  gas 
(GHG)  cap  on  all  major  sources  to  reduce  statewide  emissions  to  1990  levels  by  2020. 
The  ARB  has  proposed  a  "scoping  plan"  that  outlines  strategies  such  as  energy 
efficiency  and  renewable  energy  as  essential  actions  to  meet  the  AB  32  goals;  SB  1368 
(Perata)  Chapter  599  statutes  of  2006  establishes  a  GHG  emissions  performance 
standard  and  requires  the  CEC  to  monitor  and  enforce  the  standard  for  municipal 
utilities. 

The  Energy  Commission  and  the  Public  Utilities  Commission  (PUC)  have  undertaken  a 
collaborative  proceeding  to  develop  and  provide  recommendations  to  ARB  on  measures 
and  strategies  for  reducing  GHG  emissions  in  the  electricity  and  natural  gas  sectors.  In 
the  commission's  October  2008  draft  of  its  final  recommendations  on  GHG  regulatory 
strategies,  the  commission  states  that  it  is  "already  aggressively  pursuing  the 
mandatory  emission  reduction  measures." 

5.  Please  describe  measures  the  commission  is  already  taking  to  address  GHG 
reduction.  Has  the  CEC  taken  any  specific  enforceable  steps  to  expand  and 
increase  energy  efficiency  and  renewable  energy  beyond  what  it  otherwise  would 

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have  done  in  the  absence  ofAB  32's  enactment?  Has  it  made  improvements  to 
the  Title  24  building  standards  and  appliance  efficiency  standards  since  enactment 
ofAB  32  in  2006? 

Since  the  creation  of  the  Energy  Commission  efficiency  standards  and  the  promotion  of 
efficiency  and  renewable  energy  generation  has  been  the  cornerstone  of  our  mission. 
Over  the  last  thirty-plus  years,  many  of  our  core  programs  have  had  the  effect  of 
reducing  state  greenhouse  gas  emissions  through  the  updates  to  our  efficiency 
standards  for  buildings  and  appliances,  our  financial  assistance  and  research  programs 
and  our  new  authorities,  such  as  those  created  under  AB  1 18  (2007).  In  particular,  the 
Energy  Commission's  active  pursuit  of  energy  efficiency  through  building  standards  and 
appliance  standards  and  statewide  incentives  for  photovoltaics  and  other  renewable 
generation  prior  to  AB  32  created  a  strong  policy  foundation  upon  which  a  climate 
change  program  could  be  built  in  the  electricity  sector. 

The  passage  of  AB  32  and  the  subsequent  adoption  of  the  ARB  Scoping  Plan  has  only 
underscored  the  importance  of  efficiency  and  renewables  to  the  future  of  the  State's 
energy  and  climate  solutions.  Two  of  the  leading  measures  that  the  Scoping  Plan 
describes  as  critical  components  of  our  strategy  to  reduce  greenhouse  gas  emissions 
levels  back  to  1990  levels  by  2020  is  the  integration  of  all  cost  effective  energy 
efficiency  and  achieving  a  33%  RPS  goal  by  2020.  The  Energy  Commission  clearly 
recognizes  that  we  will  play  an  ever  increasing  role  in  helping  the  ARB  and  the  rest  of 
the  State  in  achieving  these  targets.  But  we  also  recognize  that  while  we  have  made 
significant  progress  over  the  years  in  these  areas  we  need  to  push  even  further  and  into 
new  areas  if  we  are  to  achieve  our  climate  goals. 

As  a  member  of  California's  Climate  Action  Team,  the  Energy  Commission  has  actively 
worked  to  develop  aggressive  climate  change  mitigation  measures. 
The  Energy  Commission  has  been  actively  engaged  in  climate  change  initiatives  for 
energy  efficiency,  renewables,  and  transportation. 

Continued  development  work  on  the  building  and  appliance  standards  and  on  the 
Energy  Commission's  New  Solar  Homes  Partnership  photovoltaics  incentives  program 
were  "early  actions"  that  were  reported  to  the  Legislature  as  directed  by  AB  32.  The 
Energy  Commission  adopted  new  building  energy  efficiency  standards  in  April  2008  for 
residential  and  nonresidential  buildings;  these  standards,  which  will  go  into  effect  in 
August  2009,  address  not  only  newly  constructed  buildings  but  additions  and  specific 
alterations  to  existing  buildings.  On  average,  the  new  standards  are  expected  to  save 
15%  of  the  heating,  cooling,  water  heating  and  lighting  energy  for  residential  buildings 
and  about  7%  for  nonresidential  buildings  when  compared  to  the  2005  version  of  the 
standards. 

The  Energy  Commission  adopted  new  appliance  standards  in  December  2008.  These 
new  standards  are  the  first  step  in  response  to  direction  from  Assembly  Member 
Huffman's  AB  1 109  (2007)  that  the  Energy  Commission  adopt  standards  for  general 
purpose  lighting  by  December  31 ,  2008  and  initiate  a  long-term  program  of  standards 

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and  other  initiatives  to  reduce  general  purpose  lighting  energy  usage  by  50%  for  indoor 
residential  lighting,  25%  for  indoor  commercial  lighting  and  25%  for  outdoor  lighting. 
The  new  standards  took  advantage  of  authority  that  was  granted  uniquely  to  California 
by  federal  law  to  adopt  early  two  tiers  of  federal  standards  that  phase  out  incandescent 
bulbs  over  the  next  10  years.  This  adoption  also  established  and  upgraded  standards 
for  other  lighting  fixtures  and  residential  swimming  pools  and  spas,  and  established  test 
procedures  that  are  a  necessary  precursor  to  setting  standards  for  battery  chargers. 

The  other  early  action  was  the  adoption  of  the  New  Solar  Homes  Partnership  in 
December  2006.  The  New  Solar  Homes  Partnership  launched  a  major  new  effort  by 
the  Energy  Commission  to  integrate  energy  efficiency  and  high-performance 
photovoltaic  systems  in  a  combined  strategy  for  the  first  time.  To  qualify  for  incentives, 
participating  builders  must  incorporate  energy  efficiency  measures  substantially  better 
than  required  by  the  building  energy  efficiency  standards.  In  addition,  eligible 
photovoltaic  systems  must  meet  international  component  testing  standards  and  be 
designed  and  installed  to  achieve  high  performance  levels. 

In  December  2007  the  Energy  Commission  responded  to  its  mandate  under  SB  1 
(2006)  to  establish  eligibility  criteria  and  conditions  for  incentives  for  all  photovoltaic 
incentives  programs  conducted  either  by  the  Energy  Commission,  CPUC  or  POUs  by 
establishing  similar  expectations  for  energy  efficiency  and  high-performing  photovoltaic 
systems  in  all  programs  carried  out  pursuant  to  SB  1 .  These  actions  are  a  precursor  to 
a  future  where  buildings  with  dramatically  reduced  carbon  footprints  are  common  due  to 
attention  to  energy  efficiency  integrated  with  onsite  photovoltaics  and  perhaps  other 
renewable  energy  technologies. 

The  Energy  Commission  is  also  undertaking  greenhouse  gas  reduction  measures  in  the 
transportation  sector,  through  programs  and  initiatives  such  as  the  fuel-efficient  tire 
program.  Vehicle  fuel  efficiency  can  vary  up  to  about  10%  as  a  result  of  tire  rolling 
resistance,  but  currently  there  is  no  information  available  for  consumers  to  assess  the 
fuel  efficiency  of  tires.  Pursuant  to  AB  844  (Nation,  2003),  the  Energy  Commission  is 
developing  a  consumer  information  program  for  tire  fuel  efficiency  ,  and  will  begin 
developing  minimum  tire  efficiency  standards  later  this  year.  Finally,  the  Alternative  and 
Renewable  Fuel  and  Vehicle  Technology  Program  (AB  118),  discussed  further  below,  is 
a  funding  program  with  the  express  intent  of  transforming  California's  fuel  and  vehicle 
types  to  help  attain  the  state's  climate  change  policies. 

But  as  mentioned  above  these  programs  will  not  be  enough  to  allow  us  to  reach  our 
goals.  The  State  will  need  a  suite  of  new  efficiency  and  renewables  programs  and 
policies  if  we  are  to  reach  our  energy  and  climate  goals. 

In  terms  of  efficiency  we  have  highlighted  through  the  IEPR,  workshops  and  policy 
reports  that  as  successful  as  our  building  and  appliance  standards  have  been  the 
problem  is  less  about  new  buildings  now  as  about  buildings  that  have  already  been 
built,  many  of  them  before  the  State  had  an  energy  efficiency  code.  Of  the  State's 
building  stock,  70-percent  of  the  residential  buildings  and  over  5-billion  square  feet  of 

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commercial  space  were  built  prior  to  the  Energy  Commission's  first  building  efficiency 
standards.  It  is  these  buildings  that  represent  the  greatest  opportunity  for  efficiency 
savings  and  GHG  emissions  reductions  from  the  building  sector.  The  State  must 
develop  new  financing,  promotional  and  regulatory  programs  to  holistically  address  this 
challenging  problem. 

On  December  17  the  Energy  Commission  adopted  the  final  regulations  for  the  Home 
Energy  Rating  System  (HERS).  This  rating  system  will  be  a  uniform  measurement 
protocol  and  decision  support  tool  for  home  owners  and  contractors  that  are  attempting 
to  test  the  performance  of  homes  and  identify  the  most  cost-effective  and  energy 
efficient  retrofit  options.  This  alone  will  offer  a  very  powerful  tool  for  homeowners  and 
the  retrofit  industry.  We  must  now  use  this  tool  most  effectively  by  developing  financing 
mechanisms  and  regulatory  schemes  that  tier  off  of  it  so  that  we  may  be  able  to  gamer 
the  stranded  savings  that  reside  in  our  building  stock. 

Another  great  area  of  opportunity  in  efficiency  that  we  have  not  begun  to  tap  is  that  of 
water  efficiency.  Building  and  retrofitting  facilities  and  homes  that  will  conserve  water 
help  us  meet  dual  goals  of  conserving  energy  as  well  as  preserving  the  increasingly 
scarce  California  water  supply.  As  with  energy  we  need  a  building  rating  system  and  the 
financing  and  regulatory  programs  to  achieve  the  savings. 

With  renewables,  we  must  find  new  ways  to  overcome  the  barriers  to  large-scale 
deployment  of  all  forms  of  this  clean,  safe  and  cost-reliable  generation.  I  have 
discussed  many  of  the  problems  preventing  us  from  reaching  our  RPS  goals  and 
solutions  to  those  problems  in  my  answers  to  questions  above.  But  I  would  like  to 
highlight  one  of  the  measures  in  particular,  the  adoption  of  a  new  contracting  process  to 
speed  renewable  energy  development,  the  feed-in  tariff.  FiTs  would  allow  developers  to 
anticipate  what  price  they  will  receive  for  their  energy  before  they  begin  to  put  their 
business  plan  together.  This  would  provide  the  financial  certainty  needed  to  help  ensure 
that  renewable  contracts  result  in  actual  deliveries  of  energy  in  a  timely  way.  This  policy 
tool  could  be  an  incredibly  valuable  addition  to  the  State's  energy  strategies  and  as 
highlighted  above  in  question  #3  should  be  adopted  and  implemented  in  California  in 
the  near  term. 

6.     Has  the  commission  collaborated  with  PUC  and  ARB  on  any  of  the  activities  it  has 
already  taken  to  ensure  that  these  measures  fit  into  AB  32's  scoping  plan? 

The  Energy  Commission  has  worked  closely  with  both  ARB  and  the  CPUC  to  develop 
joint-agency  supported  and  sponsored  strategies.  Many  of  those  strategies  are 
described  in  the  Energy  Commission/CPUC  Final  Opinion  and  Recommendations  on 
Greenhouse  Gas  Regulatory  Strategies,  and  some  of  them  are  mentioned  in  my 
response  to  Question  5  above.  Here  I  will  elaborate  on  a  few  of  the  measures  that  have 
required  extensive  interagency  collaboration:  the  zero  net  energy  building  standards, 
more  stringent  appliance  standards,  and  transportation  sector  strategies. 


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The  2007  Integrated  Energy  Policy  Report  recommended  improvements  in  building 
standards  to  combine  high  levels  of  energy  efficiency  with  onsite  renewable  generation 
so  that  all  newly  constructed  buildings  are  "zero  net  energy"  by  2020  (residential)  and 
2030  (commercial).  The  Energy  Commission  envisions  a  tiered  approach  to  achieve 
zero  net  energy  (ZNE)  building  standards.  The  base  tier  will  be  the  traditional 
mandatory  standards  that  increase  in  stringency  with  every  3-year  code  cycle. 
Additional  tiers  will  be  voluntary  and  represent  a  "reach"  or  "stretch"  target  for  advanced 
levels  of  energy  efficiency  and  onsite  generation.  We  expect  that  many  technologies  in 
the  reach  tiers  will  become  part  of  the  baseline  standards  in  succeeding  cycles  of  the 
standards. 

This  vision  has  been  accepted  and  supported  by  both  the  CPUC  and  ARB.  The  CPUC 
captures  this  vision  as  two  of  their  four  "Big  Bold  Strategies"  in  their  "Long  Term  Energy 
Efficiency  Strategic  Plan."  They  commit  to  collaborating  with  the  Energy  Commission 
over  the  coming  decade  and  beyond  and  direct  the  lOUs  to  focus  on  program  initiatives 
to  facilitate  the  accomplishment  of  the  zero  net  energy  building  standards  vision. 
Likewise,  ARB  endorses  the  Energy  Commission's  ZNE  vision  and  strategy  in  the 
Scoping  Plan.  The  Scoping  Plan  recognizes  that  getting  to  the  ZNE  vision  requires  the 
integration  of  high  energy  efficiency  levels  and  onsite  solar  technologies,  and  points  out 
that  the  Energy  Commission's  New  Solar  Homes  Partnership  and  SB  1  eligibility  criteria 
establish  precedent  and  a  baseline  for  further  efforts  to  achieve  the  ZNE  vision. 

ARB  and  the  Energy  Commission  also  have  collaborated  on  Scoping  Plan  endorsement 
of  increasingly  stringent  appliance  standards  as  a  major  climate  change  mitigation 
strategy.  The  Scoping  Plan  recognizes  the  Energy  Commission's  ongoing  efforts  to 
expand  the  state's  appliance  standards  to  cover  all  devices  using  significant  amounts  of 
energy.  New  standards  will  cover  consumer  electronics,  such  as  televisions,  computer 
monitors,  and  plug-in,  portable  devices.  These  appliances  represent  an  ever-increasing 
portion  of  the  overall  energy  use  in  homes  and  commercial  buildings.  The  Scoping  Plan 
also  recognizes  and  encourages  the  Energy  Commission's  efforts  to  establish  water 
efficiency  standards  for  appliances  as  directed  by  recent  legislation  (AB  662,  AB  1881 
andAB  1560(2007)). 

As  a  final  example,  the  Energy  Commission  is  working  closely  with  ARB  to  ensure  that 
the  Alternative  and  Renewable  Fuel  and  Vehicle  Technology  Program  (AB  1 18) 
complements  the  state's  mandatory  climate  change  measures  for  the  transportation 
sector,  in  particular  the  Low  Carbon  Fuel  Standard  and  Pavley  vehicle  efficiency 
standards.  For  example,  AB  1 18  funding  evaluation  criteria  will  use  the  same  full  fuel- 
cycle  greenhouse  gas  emissions  data  that  ARB  will  use  to  assess  compliance  with  the 
Low  Carbon  Fuel  Standard. 

7.      Please  describe  the  status  of  implementation  of  SB  1368  as  it  applies  to  municipal 
utilities.  Have  any  utilities  submitted  their  procurement  plans  to  the  commission  for 
review?  Are  any  municipal  utilities  violating  the  GHG  emissions  performance 
standard  established  under  SB  1368? 


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The  Energy  Commission's  regulations  pursuant  to  SB  1368  were  approved  by  the 
Office  of  Administrative  Law  on  October  16,  2007.  These  established  an  emissions 
performance  standard  of  1 ,100  lbs  C02  per  MWh,  effective  July  1 ,  2007,  for  long-term 
investments  by  municipal  utilities  in  baseload  generation.  Investments  subject  to  the 
standard  include  the  construction  or  purchase  of  a  power  plant  designed  or  intended  for 
baseload  use,  five-year  or  longer  contracts  with  such  power  plants,  and  capital 
investments  in  existing  utility-owned  plants  that  are  intended  to  extend  the  life  of  the 
plant  by  five  years  or  more,  increase  the  rated  capacity  of  the  plant,  or  convert  a  non- 
baseload  plant  to  baseload  operation.  Utilities  may  request  exemptions  from  the 
standard  based  on  reliability  needs,  the  threat  of  significant  financial  harm,  or  because 
an  investment  is  required  as  part  of  a  contract  or  ownership  agreement. 

The  regulations  promulgated  pursuant  to  SB  1368  do  not  require  that  utilities  submit  a 
procurement  plan  to  the  Energy  Commission.  Instead,  the  utilities  submit  compliance 
filings  within  ten  days  of  making  an  investment  subject  to  the  performance  standard. 
They  also  have  the  option  of  requesting  an  Energy  Commission  review  of  a  prospective 
investment  prior  to  committing  to  it.  The  Energy  Commission  may,  on  its  own  motion  or 
at  the  request  of  a  third  party,  conduct  a  complaint  or  investigation  proceeding  in  the 
event  that  a  utility  undertakes  a  covered  investment  but  fails  to  submit  a  compliance 
filing. 

Since  July  1 ,  2007,  three  compliance  filings  have  been  submitted  to  the  Energy 
Commission,  each  for  contracts  with  new  renewable  facilities;  a  fourth  is  anticipated 
within  the  next  month.  Several  municipal  utilities  have  contracted  with  renewable 
facilities  of  less  than  10  MW  in  size;  these  investments  do  not  require  compliance 
filings.  In  addition,  one  utility-owned  project  has  been  held  to  comply  with  the  standard 
in  the  course  of  the  Energy  Commission's  facility  siting  process  (a  hybrid  gas-solar 
facility  owned  by  the  City  of  Victorville);  six  other  projects  are  currently  in  review.  The 
five  cases  in  which  the  standard  applies  are  anticipated  to  be  compliant  (one  project  is  a 
peaking  unit).  No  utility  has  requested  an  exemption  from  the  standard  for  an 
investment,  nor  requested  a  review  of  a  prospective  investment.  Moreover,  no  utility 
has  entered  into  a  long-term  contract  for  baseload  energy  during  the  past  year,  as  most 
of  them  own  sufficient  resources  to  meet  their  baseload  needs. 

The  Energy  Commission  also  receives  information  from  municipal  utilities  regarding 
procurement  and  resource  planning  pursuant  to  SB  1389  (2002;  Bowen,  Sher),  the 
enabling  legislation  for  the  Integrated  Energy  Policy  Report,  and  AB  380  (2005,  Nunez), 
which  requires  the  Energy  Commission  to  report  upon  the  resource  adequacy  of  public 
utilities  to  the  Legislature  on  a  biennial  basis.  Reviews  of  the  utility  resource  plans 
submitted  to  the  Energy  Commission  pursuant  to  SB  1389  and  AB  380  did  not  indicate 
violation  of  the  emissions  performance  standard  by  any  utility. 

Powerplant  Siting 

Under  the  Warren-Alquist  Act,  the  CEC  oversees  the  siting  of  major  new  thermal 
powerplants.  With  enactment  of  AB  32  and  SB  1368  (Perata— Chapter  598/Statutes  of 

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2006),  the  CEC  has  an  increased  role  in  reviewing  the  GHG  pollution  associated  with 
electricity  generation  from  powerplants. 

8.  Please  describe  the  regulations,  or  other  actions  the  CEC  has  adopted,  to  ensure 
GHG  pollution  is  taken  into  account  as  part  of  its  powerplant  siting  process.  What 
effect,  if  any,  will  those  regulations  have  on  energy  costs  and  utility  bills? 

For  the  past  several  years,  the  Energy  Commission  has  evaluated  and  accounted  for 
greenhouse  gas  emissions  from  power  plants  it  reviews  and  certifies.  In  these  analyses, 
the  Energy  Commission  assesses  an  individual  power  plant's  greenhouse  gas 
emissions  (both  construction  and  operations)  and  has  required,  as  a  condition  of 
certification,  best  management  practices  for  construction,  and  that  the  project  owner 
participate  in  a  climate  action  registry  or  report  on  a  annual  basis  the  quantity  of 
greenhouse  gases  emitted  as  a  direct  result  of  facility  electricity  production. 

Additionally,  because  most  power  plants  are  interconnected  to  a  utility  grid,  and  in  turn 
to  the  Western  Electricity  Coordinating  Council,  the  Energy  Commission  more  recently 
has  begun  to  assess  proposed  projects  in  the  context  of  the  overall  system.  Figure  1 
shows  the  trends  in  GHG  emission  rates  for  each  MWh  consumed  in  California.  From 
1 990  to  2004,  California  electricity  became  almost  20  percent  "cleaner"  from  a  C02-eq 
metric  ton/MWh  basis.  This  improvement  was  due  in  part  to  replacing  dirtier,  less 
efficient  plant  generation,  despite  electricity  demand  growth  of  almost  20  percent  from 
1990  to  2004. 

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The  trend  line,  a  linear  regression  of  the  annual  GHG  emission  rates,  is  a  better  representation  of  the 
statewide  GHG  emission  rates  than  the  actual  number  in  any  one  year.  GHG  emissions  and  electricity 
consumption  can  vary  from  year  to  year  due  to  variations  in  the  availability  of  hydroelectric  power, 


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economic  activity,  and  anomalous  events  such  as  the  energy  crisis  of  2000-2001  and  unusually  warm 
weather  conditions  as  occurred  in  2004. 

On  October  8,  2008,  the  Energy  Commission  approved  a  Greenhouse  Gas  Order 
Instituting  Informational  proceeding  on  the  methods  for  satisfying  California 
Environmental  Quality  Act  (CEQA)  requirements  relating  to  greenhouse  gas  emission 
impacts  of  power  plants.  The  Energy  Commission  directed  the  Siting  Policy  Committee 
to  oversee  the  proceedings,  hold  workshops,  report  back  to  the  full  Energy  Commission 
with  a  progress  report  on  December  3,  2008,  and  develop  a  set  of  recommendations. 
Commissioner  Jeffrey  Bryon  and  I  are  the  two  members  of  the  Siting  Policy  Committee 
responsibility  for  this  proceeding.  To  date,  we  have  held  two  publicly-noticed  hearings  to 
receive  input  from  power  plant  developers,  electric  utilities,  environmental  organizations, 
environmental  justice  organizations,  and  the  general  public.  The  two  workshops  have 
been  well  attended,  and  the  verbal  and  written  comments  thoughtful. 

We  plan  to  complete  the  proceeding  in  early  2009.  The  Siting  Committee  will  publish  its 
findings  from  the  proceeding  and  suggest  next  steps  to  the  Commission.  I  expect  this 
issue  to  be  a  central  part  of  current  and  future  power  plant  siting  cases.  In  addition,  as 
discussed  above,  the  work  we  are  doing  on  this  siting  issue  has  broad  policy 
implications  which  will  be  reflected  in  future  iterations  of  the  IEPR. 

9.     A  recent  court  decision  invalidated  the  pollution  credit  rules  used  in  the  South 
Coast  air  basin  to  govern  permitting  of  new  powerplants  and  other  facilities.  Air 
quality  officials  and  utilities  state  that  this  decision  will  impair  siting  of  needed  fossil 
fuel  generation.  Environmental  groups  contend  it  will  help  replace  fossil  fuel 
generation  with  new  renewable  energy.  What  are  your  views  on  the  impacts  of  the 
court  decision  on  powerplant  siting  in  the  South  Coast  basin?  Are  new  fossil-fuel 
powerplants  needed  to  supply  the  basin,  or  can  needs  be  met  through  greater 
efficiency,  renewable  energy  and  the  like? 

The  court  decision  has  brought  the  issuance  of  offsets  to  new  power  plants  to  a  halt 
pending  resolution  of  a  number  of  CEQA  and  Clean  Air  Act  issues,  While  the  Energy 
Commission  does  not  anticipate  that  the  inability  to  construct  planned  new  power 
generation  in  the  South  Coast  area  will  cause  reliability  problems  in  Southern  California 
in  the  next  two  summers,  it  does  threaten  to  undermine  our  ability  to  meet  certain 
environmental  policy  goals,  including  retirement  or  repowering  of  inefficient,  once- 
through  cooling  facilities.  Furthermore,  reliability  problems  will  surface  in  Southern 
California  if  this  issue  is  not  resolved. 

Southern  California  is  the  region  most  vulnerable  to  supply  shortages.  In  addition  to 
long-term  contract  and  utility-owned  generation,  Southern  California  utilities  rely  on 
electricity  purchased  from  aging  power  plants  under  short-term  contracts  to  maintain 
sufficient  reserve  margins  and  provide  for  local  area  reliability,  specifically  in  the  South 
Coast  Basin.  Despite  significant  amounts  of  energy  efficiency  and  rooftop  solar 
photovoltaic  systems  included  in  the  Energy  Commission's  demand  forecasts,  some 
level  of  new  or  repowered  natural  gas  generation  will  be  needed  in  Southern  California 
for  four  important  reasons: 

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•  to  meet  load  growth  after  demand-side  measures  have  been  installed; 

•  to  replace  aging  plants  to  improve  efficiency  of  the  generating  fleet; 

•  to  'firm  up"  the  intermittency  characteristics  of  renewable  generation;  and 

•  to  replace  power  plants  using  ocean  water  in  once-through  cooling  systems. 

The  development  of  new  generating  capacity  to  replace  the  aging  power  plants  in  the 
South  Coast  basin  is  critical  to  achieving  environmental  improvements,  including 
reduced  greenhouse  gas  (GHG)  emissions  from  more  efficient  use  of  natural  gas  and 
reduced  impacts  on  coastal  and  marine  environments  by  moving  away  from  once- 
through-cooling  for  power  generation.  The  court  rulings  limiting  the  supply  of  air 
emissions  credits  in  this  region  present  new  challenges  for  California  to  achieve  these 
important  environmental  improvements  while  at  the  same  time  ensuring  sufficient 
generating  supplies  and  local  electricity  area  reliability. 

I  believe  that  renewable  resources  will  supply  an  increasing  percentage  of  of  power 
used  in  the  South  Coast  basin  immediately  and  over  the  long  term.  However,  this  goal 
is  not  in  direct  conflict  with  the  construction  of  a  reasonable  amount  of  new  fossil 
generation  in  the  south  Coast  Basin.  Distributed  solar  systems  such  as  rooftop 
photovoltaics  can  be  placed  directly  in  urban  regions  such  as  the  greater  Los  Angeles 
area,  but  particularly  during  the  May-October  hot  weather  period  they  are  unlikely  to  be 
the  primary  supply  source  for  meeting  electricity  needs  within  the  forseeable  future. 
Other  renewable  options  are  likely  to  be  imported  from  outside  of  the  South  Coast 
basin,  but  they  will  need  some  fossil  generation  to  firm  them  up  as  well  as  to  ensure 
reliability,  replace  aging  plants,  and  make  up  for  reductions  in  imported  coal  power. 
Further,  Some  of  the  most  promising  solar  possibilities  are  located  in  remote  desert 
areas  which  could  require  a  long  transmission  connection  to  the  South  Coast  area,  or 
expensive  upgrades  to  existing  lines  and  substations.  Depending  on  the  route  and 
areas  affected,  long  transmission  lines  can  be  extremely  controversial  and  difficult  to 
permit.  The  desert  areas  also  have  numerous  fragile  and  sensitive  resources  such  as 
threatened  and  endangered  plants  and  animals,  unique  cultural  sites  warranting 
permanent  protection,  and  stunning  panoramic  views  of  the  landscape  and  surrounding 
mountains.  As  discussed  in  previous  questions,  I  believe  that  development  of  large,  new 
solar  facilities  in  the  desert  and  associated  transmission  is  possible  and  desirable,  but  it 
will  not  happen  overnight. 

I  believe  that  the  future  of  the  South  Coast's,  and  California's,  electricity  supply  needs  to 
come  from  a  much  larger  and  ever  increasing  amount  of  renewable  sources  while 
simultaneously  reducing  the  environmental  impact  from  the  fossil  fueled  generation  that 
we  continue  to  operate.  To  achieve  this  transition,  the  State  must  take  a  measured 
approach  to  our  electricity  system's  development,  and  I  believe  that  the  work  that  the 
Energy  Commission  is  initiating  to  better  describe  this  transition  will  help  build  public 
understanding  and  consensus  about  what  -  and  how  much  -  new  fossil  fuel 
infrastructure  is  needed.  To  further  contribute  to  a  shared  understanding  of  this  issue 


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the  Energy  Commission  also  plans  to  conduct  a  detailed  needs  assessment  for  the 
South  Coast  Basin  in  coordination  with  the  California  ISO. 

Transportation  Fuels  and  Technologies 

AB  1 1 8  (Nunez),  Chapter  751 ,  Statutes  of  2007,  authorizes  the  Energy  Commission  to 
spend  approximately  $120  million  per  year  over  seven  years  to  develop  and  deploy 
innovative  technologies  that  transform  California's  fuel  and  vehicle  types  to  help  attain 
the  state's  climate  change  policies.  The  2008  Integrated  Energy  Policy  Report  Update 
states  that  this  program  will  deploy  alternative  and  renewable  fuels  in  the  marketplace 
without  adopting  any  preferred  fuel  or  technology.  The  Energy  Commission's 
Transportation  Committee,  of  which  you  are  a  member,  provides  oversight  and  policy 
direction  related  to  the  planning,  implementation,  and  evaluation  of  all  transportation- 
related  and  fuel-related  functions  administered  by  the  Energy  Commission,  including 
implementation  of  AB  118. 

10.  As  the  associate  commissioner  to  the  commission's  Transportation  Committee, 
please  describe  some  key  steps  the  committee  has  taken  to  oversee  the 
implementation  ofAB  118. 

The  passage  and  implementation  of  AB  118  represents  a  significant  opportunity  for  the 
State  to  begin  the  transformation  of  our  transportation  sector  to  a  low-carbon  future.  The 
Energy  Commission  takes  it  responsibility  under  this  statute  very  seriously  and  has 
dedicated  significant  resources  to  the  development  of  the  AB  1 18  Investment  Plan  and 
the  accompanying  regulations.  In  addition,  we  have  engaged  in  a  significant  outreach 
effort  to  develop  an  idea  of  what  the  research,  infrastructure,  technology  and  workforce 
needs  of  the  alternative  transportation  technology  industry  are. 

We  began  our  efforts  by  convening  an  Advisory  Committee,  as  directed  by  legislation, 
to  help  develop  the  Investment  Plan  for  AB  1 1 8  funds.  The  twenty-five  Advisory 
Committee  members  represent  environmental,  public  health,  and  labor  organizations, 
fuel  and  technology  consortia,  academic  institutions,  consumer  advocates,  venture 
capitalists,  and  other  state  agencies.  As  the  presiding  member  of  the  Transportation 
Committee,  Commissioner  Boyd  presides  over  Advisory  Committee  meetings,  and  the 
two  of  us  have  participated  actively  in  the  Advisory  Committee  meetings  held  to  date. 
The  draft  Investment  Plan  will  be  discussed  with  the  Advisory  Committee  at  a  public 
meeting  in  January. 

Parallel  to  developing  the  Investment  Plan,  the  Energy  Commission  has  drafted 
regulations  to  guide  the  implementation  of  AB  118,  and  Commissioner  Boyd  and  I  have 
convened  several  workshops  to  solicit  public  input  on  the  regulations.  The  draft 
regulations,  which  were  submitted  to  the  Office  of  Administrative  Law  on  December  2, 
include  sustainability  goals  for  the  program,  an  elaboration  of  the  statutory  requirement 
that  AB  1 18  funds  not  be  used  to  support  existing  laws  or  regulations,  details  on  the 
organization  and  role  of  the  Advisory  Committee,  and  the  process  for  developing  and 
updating  the  Investment  Plan. 

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Following  completion  of  the  regulations  and  Energy  Commission  adoption  of  the 
Investment  Plan,  we  plan  on  releasing  solicitations  for  funding  in  the  spring  of  2009. 

1 1 .  Please  provide  some  examples  of  policy  direction  you  have  provided  to  ensure 
effective  planning  and  evaluation  of  this  program. 

Given  the  many  overlapping  goals  of  AB  1 18,  policy  direction  has  been  required  to 
prioritize  program  objectives  in  order  to  guide  the  planning  of  the  program.  As  you 
know,  climate  change  is  one  of  my  highest  priorities.  The  transportation  sector 
accounts  for  almost  forty  percent  of  greenhouse  gas  emissions  in  California,  and 
accelerating  the  transition  to  low-carbon  alternative  fuels  and  technologies  is  critical  if 
we  are  to  achieve  our  AB  32  goals.  AB  1 18  funds  should  be  used  to  reduce  California's 
dependence  on  petroleum,  reduce  air  and  water  pollution,  and  drive  technological 
progress.  Additionally,  in  light  of  current  economic  conditions,  I  believe  that  AB  1 18 
funds  can  and  should  play  an  important  role  to  play  in  stimulating  California's  economy 
and  moving  it  in  a  cleaner  direction.  By  supporting  the  construction  of  alternative-fuel 
infrastructure  and  clean  vehicles,  and  training  workers  for  the  new  low-carbon  economy, 
AB  1 18  funds  can  provide  both  immediate  and  long-term  economic  benefits  to  the  state. 
I  have  therefore  directed  that  the  Investment  Plan  be  designed  around  the  dual 
objectives  of  reducing  greenhouse  gas  emissions  and  developing  the  state's  economy, 
and  that  future  program  evaluations  assess  our  progress  toward  achieving  these  goals. 

While  focusing  on  greenhouse  gases  and  economic  development,  however,  we  cannot 
overlook  the  sustainability  of  the  fuels  and  technologies  that  we  support.  In  particular, 
AB  1 1 8  gives  us  the  opportunity  to  support  the  emergence  of  an  in-state  biofuels 
industry,  and  it  is  critical  that  this  industry  develop  in  such  a  way  as  to  protect 
California's  and  the  planet's  environment.  With  this  in  mind,  AB  1 18  calls  for  the  Energy 
Commission  to  develop  sustainability  goals  to  ensure  that  the  funded  projects  do  not 
adversely  impact  natural  resources.  Commissioner  Boyd  and  I  directed  staff  to  form  a 
Sustainability  Working  Group  to  participate  in  the  development  of  the  sustainability 
goals,  and  to  provide  input  on  sustainability  criteria  that  will  guide  funding  decisions. 
We  will  also  propose  devoting  a  portion  of  AB  1 18  funds  to  sustainability  support 
activities  such  as  developing  Best  Management  Practices  for  purpose-grown  energy 
crops  and  evaluating  international  sustainability  certification  programs. 

12.  Have  you  called  for  certain  measures  so  that  the  committee  can  evaluate  the  cost- 
effectiveness  of  this  program?  If  so,  please  describe  these  measures. 

AB  109  (2008)  amended  AB  118  to  require  the  Energy  Commission  to  include  an 
evaluation  of  the  program  in  the  IEPR.  These  biennial  evaluations  will  include  the 
expected  benefits  of  funded  projects  in  terms  of  greenhouse  gas  emissions  reductions, 
air  quality,  reduction  of  petroleum  use,  and  technology  advancement.  We  plan  to  use 
this  framework  to  analyze  the  cost-effectiveness  of  the  program  in  terms  of  dollars  spent 
per  ton  of  CO2  avoided.  The  program  can  thus  be  compared  to  other  greenhouse  gas 
reduction  measures,  both  within  the  transportation  sector  and  across  the  economy. 

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To  conduct  this  cost-effectiveness  analysis,  we  will  need  adequate  information  to 
estimate  the  greenhouse  gas  emission  reductions  achieved.  Estimated  greenhouse 
gas  emission  reductions  associated  with  individual  projects  will  be  requested  in  funding 
solicitations,  verified  as  appropriate,  and  used  as  criteria  to  evaluate  applicants  as  well 
as  in  subsequent  cost-effectiveness  analyses.  In  addition,  as  stated  in  the  draft 
regulations,  the  Energy  Commission  will  develop  reporting  requirements  and  establish  a 
database  to  monitor  the  greenhouse  gas  emissions  and  other  environmental  impacts  of 
funded  projects.  The  cost-effectiveness  of  the  overall  program  will  be  assessed  by 
aggregating  the  costs  and  expected  impacts  of  all  funded  projects. 


Energy  Efficiency 

In  its  October  2008  draft  of  final  recommendations  on  GHG  regulatory  strategies,  the 
Energy  Commission  reaffirms  its  commitment  to  an  aggressive  approach  to  realize 
significant  new  reductions  in  energy  consumption  and  GHG  emissions,  via  energy 
efficiency  measures.  Under  the  Warren-Alquist  Act,  the  Energy  Commission  is 
responsible  for  adoption  and  enforcement  of  state  energy  efficiency  building  standards 
and  appliance  standards.  The  Energy  Commission  has  stated  that  its  standards-setting 
authority  and  its  development  of  new  efficiency  technologies  are  essential  to  attainment 
of  this  goal. 

13.    Should  additional  actions  be  taken  to  strengthen  the  state's  efficiency  standards? 

Absolutely.  As  a  result  of  collaboration  with  our  CPUC  and  ARB  partners,  there  is  wide 
recognition  that  energy  efficiency  will  be  California's  most  effective  tool  for  achieving 
GHG  emission  reductions  in  the  electricity  and  natural  gas  sectors,  which  are  critical  to 
accomplishment  of  climate  change  mitigation  in  the  state.  Further,  there  is  recognition 
that  aggressive  advancement  of  the  state's  building  and  appliance  standards  are 
fundamental  to  California's  climate  change  success  as  these  standards  are  by  far  the 
most  cost-effective  means  of  accomplishing  required  energy  efficiency  improvements. 
The  standards  are  a  vehicle  to  deliver  many  other  benefits  to  Californians,  including 
lower  energy  bills,  avoidance  of  the  need  to  build  power  plants  and  the  resulting 
environmental  and  societal  impacts,  increased  comfort  in  buildings,  better  indoor  air 
quality,  lower  water  consumption  and  reduced  construction  defects. 

We  have  ambitious  goals  for  continued  expansion  of  building  standards:  driving  to  zero 
net  energy  in  newly  constructed  buildings  by  2020  for  residential  and  2030  for 
commercial.  We  are  also  pursuing  an  aggressive  updating  of  appliance  standards  over 
the  coming  years  focusing  on  lighting,  consumer  electronics,  and  water-using 
appliances  in  particular.  These  activities  are  strongly  supported  in  the  CPUC's  Long- 
term  Strategic  Plan  and  ARB's  AB  32  Scoping  Plan.  The  Energy  Commission  has 
actively  pursued  additional  budgetary  resources  to  expand  the  scope  and  pace  at  which 
California's  building  and  appliance  standards  are  updated.  We  appreciate  the  support 
from  the  Legislature  thus  far  in  this  endeavor  and  would  welcome  further  support. 

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As  noted  above  in  my  answer  to  question  #5,  two  of  the  areas  for  most  significant 
improvement  regarding  efficiency  standards  are  existing  buildings  and  water  efficiency, 
would  direct  you  to  my  statements  about  each  of  these  in  question  #5  above. 


14.   Are  there  figures  that  show  the  actual  energy  savings  being  achieved  by  the 

energy  efficient  building  standards?  Should  steps  be  taken  to  get  a  better  sense  of 
whether  the  standards  are  working  fully  and  to  ensure  local  governments  enforce 
those  standards? 

California's  building  and  appliance  efficiency  standards  have  been  a  model  for  other 
state  standards.  California  as  a  state  uses  60  percent  less  electricity  per  capita  than  the 
nation  as  a  whole.  Much  of  our  success  is  attributable  to  the  energy  efficiency  work  of 
the  Energy  Commission  over  the  past  30  years.  The  following  graph  shows  the 
cumulative  energy  savings  that  have  been  achieved  since  1975  from  the  building 
standards,  the  appliance  standards,  utility  and  other  energy  efficiency  programs,  and 
price  and  market  effects.  The  standards  are  a  very  cost-effective  use  of  public  funds  to 
save  energy  and  reduce  greenhouse  gases.  The  building  standards  in  combination  with 
the  appliance  standards  are  responsible  for  over  half  of  the  energy  and  peak  savings 
achieved  in  California  since  1975.  The  utility  program  portion  of  the  other  half  results 
from  the  public  goods  charge  funds  (current  annual  budget  of  about  $750  million)  that 
provide  incentives  to  encourage  energy  efficiency  improvements  outside  of  the 
standards. 


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Cumulative  Conservation  Savings  1980  -  2006 


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I  am  concerned  that  a  standards  program  is  incomplete  without  an  active  enforcement 
element.  Historically,  the  Energy  Commission  has  been  underfunded  to  maintain  an 
active  presence  in  the  field  to  ensure  that  standards  are  being  complied  with  and 
enforced  by  local  building  departments  (there  are  530  independent  building 
departments  of  the  cities  and  counties  around  the  state).  In  the  FY  2007-08  budget 
cycle,  the  Energy  Commission  was  authorized  3  permanent  and  2  limited  term  positions 
to  start  up  a  dedicated  compliance  and  enforcement  unit.  The  enforcement  staff  has 
been  visiting  and  working  with  local  building  departments  to  increase  compliance  with 
the  standards.  The  Energy  Commission  also  actively  coordinates  development  of 
training  and  education  materials  with  the  Investor  Owned  Utilities  to  reach  out  to 
building  departments  and  the  many  professionals  and  trades  people  who  make  up  the 
building  industry.  The  Energy  Commission  recently  was  successful  in  competing  for  a 
$500,000  grant  from  the  US  Department  of  Energy  to  develop  an  online  Learning 
Management  System  for  building  department  personnel.  The  Energy  Commission  also 
works  with  the  Contractors  State  License  Board  (CSLB)  to  provide  information  about 
standards  compliance  to  licensed  contractors  and  to  obtain  CSLB  assistance  in 
following  up  complaints  against  contractors  who  fail  to  comply  with  the  standards. 
Legislation  has  been  introduced  in  the  past  two  sessions  to  provide  direction  to  the 
CSLB  to  place  a  priority  on  addressing,  in  collaboration  with  the  Energy  Commission, 
the  failure  of  contractors  to  pull  building  permits  and  comply  with  the  energy  standards, 

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as  a  means  to  achieve  greenhouse  gas  emission  reductions  from  the  standards. 
Although  Governor  Schwarzenegger  vetoed  the  multi-purpose  AB  785  (2007) 
legislation,  he  urged  the  Legislature  to  reconsider  legislation  to  add  penalties  for  failure 
of  licensed  contractors  to  comply.  Such  legislation  is  sorely  needed. 

It  is  ironic  that  in  an  era  when  local  governments  are  expected  to  play  a  role  in  reducing 
greenhouse  gas  emissions  and  are  actively  pursuing  local  ordinances  that  exceed 
mandatory  energy  efficiency  and  green  building  standards,  many  of  the  same  local 
governments  devote  inadequate  resources  to  enforcing  state  standards.  We  need  to 
send  a  strong  message  to  local  governments  that  the  state  depends  on  their 
enforcement  efforts  to  deliver  the  critical  energy  and  climate  change  benefits  resulting 
from  building  efficiency  standards. 


Public  Interest  Energy  and  Climate  Research 

California  state  agencies  spend  several  hundred  million  dollars  per  year  on  air  pollution, 
energy,  and  climate  related  research.  The  University  of  California  spends  funds  for 
these  purposes  as  well.  The  Federal  Department  of  Energy  also  provides  federal 
funding  for  public  interest  energy-related  research,  development,  and  demonstration 
(RD&D)  in  the  state. 

The  Energy  Commission  itself  oversees  the  Public  Interest  Energy  Research  Program 
and  the  Natural  Gas  PIER  Program.  As  noted  above,  it  also  oversees  a  portion  of  the 
AB  1 18  program.  Last  year,  the  Legislature  passed  two  measures  to  establish  a  more 
coordinated  and  effective  energy,  clean  air,  and  climate  research  program.  The  CEC 
opposed  these  measures. 

15.   How  do  you  evaluate  whether  California's  various  energy  and  climate  research 
programs  are  sufficiently  well-coordinated  to  provide  the  greatest  benefit  to 
taxpayers  and  the  environment? 


The  Energy  Commission  has  undertaken  a  number  of  activities  to  ensure  that  particular 
RD&D  projects  help  implement  energy  policy  such  as  Senate  Bill  1250  (2006),  the  multi- 
agency  Energy  Action  Plan,  the  Energy  Commission's  Integrated  Energy  Policy  Report, 
the  "loading  order"  of  new  energy  resources,  and  other  policy  sources.  These  activities 
are  described  below.  In  addition,  the  Energy  Commission  participates  in  the  R&D 
subgroup  of  the  Climate  Action  Team,  which  is  designed  to  help  streamline  research 
coordination,  collaboration,  and  co-funding  of  climate  change  and  energy-related  GHG 
reduction  research  and  programs.  In  particular,  Energy  Commissioner  Jim  Boyd,  former 
Executive  Director  of  the  ARB,  leads  this  effort  for  all  state  agencies.  The  R&D  chapter 
of  the  next  climate  Action  Team  Report  is  due  to  be  released  in  January. 

Because  I  am  not  a  member  of  the  Research  and  Development  Committee,  I  do  not 
have  personal  involvement  in  these  coordination  efforts.    However,  I  do  believe  that  the 

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Energy  Commission  should  do  more  to  improve  transparency  and  coordination  in  the 
PIER  Program.  Specifically,  I  would  like  to  see  the  Energy  Commission  convene  its 
advisory  committee  in  order  to  have  a  public  dialogue  about  the  effectiveness  and  future 
direction  of  the  program.  In  addition,  I  believe  it  is  very  important  for  the  Commission  to 
develop  and  approve  a  strategic  plan  for  the  PIER  Program  in  order  to  be  better  able  to 
communicate  our  strategic  objectives  and  assess  our  effectiveness  in  meeting  these 
objectives.  Publishing  a  strategic  plan  for  PIER  would  also  represent  a  significant  step 
forward  in  reducing  the  potential  for  duplication  with  other  public  or  private  research 
spending. 

Since  its  inception,  the  Energy  Commission's  PIER  program  has  followed  the  loading 
order -first  energy  efficiency,  then  renewables,  then  clean  advanced  generation,  plus 
transmission  and  distribution  improvements  -  for  directing  its  energy  RD&D.  Of  the 
$601  million  in  PIER  R&D  projects  funded  between  1999-2008,  almost  $500  million  (83 
percent)  clearly  has  benefitted  taxpayers  in  implementing  the  energy  loading  order 
policy,  as  shown  by  the  following  principal  categories  of  PIER  research  called  for  in  SB 
1250: 

PIER  Electric  &  NG  Funds  by  SB1250  Code  ($601.53  MM) 


Program  Title 

Dollar  Amount 

Percentage 

Transportation 

$13.1  MM 

2.2  % 

Energy  Efficiency  and 
Demand  Response 

$181.6  MM 

30.2  % 

Renewables 

$148  MM 

24.6  % 

Advanced  Electricity 
Generation 

$97.8  MM 

16.3% 

Transmission  and 
Distribution 

$71 .9  MM 

1 1 .9  % 

Climate/  Environmental 

$55.8  MM 

9.3  % 

Program  Administration 

$33.33  MM 

5.5  % 

To  help  the  Energy  Commission  avoid  redundant  energy  and  climate  change  research, 
the  Energy  Commission  actively  solicits  and  participates  in  committees,  working  groups, 
collaborative  partnerships,  stakeholder  organizations,  and  universities  to  discuss,  obtain 
suggestions,  and  in  some  cases,  receive  funding  for  our  research  programs.  For 
example,  the  Energy  Commission  uses  research  program  advisory  committees  to 
identify  prospective  new  projects,  to  prevent  wasteful  duplication  and  to  ensure 
beneficial  projects  are  considered.  Advisory  committees  for  transmission,  distribution 
and  smart  grid  research  are  comprised  of  high-level  representatives  of  the  Department 
of  Energy,  lOUs,  renewable  resource  groups,  CPUC,  CA  ISO,  out  of  state  power 
producers  such  as  Bonneville  Power  Authority  and  the  University  of  California.  These 
processes  help  the  Energy  Commission  ensure  we  select  the  best  research 
opportunities  that  also  meet  the  loading  order  and  other  legislative  goals. 


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To  ensure  that  state  policy  and  goals  are  implemented  through  trailblazing  energy 
technology  research,  the  Energy  Commission's  RD&D  program  reports  to  an  RD&D 
Committee,  consisting  of  two  of  the  five  Energy  Commissioners.  They  provide  detailed 
policy  guidance  for  the  program,  and  new,  beneficial  and  non-duplicative  projects  are 
approved  by  the  full  Energy  Commission  before  implementation. 

RD&D  staff  and  management  are  also  active  in  committees,  working  groups, 
collaborative  partnerships,  stakeholder  organizations,  and  university  undertakings 
involving  RD&D  either  as  participants  or  leaders.  These  forums  enable  them  to  discuss, 
obtain  suggestions,  and  in  some  cases,  receive  funding  for  our  research  programs. 
Additionally,  participation  in  these  various  working  groups  and  collaboratives  allow  us 
the  opportunity  to  keep  abreast  of  current  activities  that  others  are  engaging  in,  and  to 
inform  others  our  activities.  Ongoing  communication  with  entities  involved  in  energy  and 
climate  change  programs  allows  us  ample  opportunity  to  evaluate  how  well  we  are 
coordinating  and  leveraging  our  efforts  and  the  ratepayers'  money  with  the  efforts  of 
others  to  ensure  the  greatest  benefit.  Some  examples  of  this  effort  are: 

•  The  Energy  Commission  created  the  California  Climate  Change  Center,  a 
research  institution  based  at  several  universities  and  research  institutions  in 
California  to  provide  additional  assurance  that  duplicative  climate  change 
research  efforts  does  not  occur. 

•  Through  the  University  of  California  Office  of  the  President's  California  Institute 
for  Energy  and  the  Environment,  UC-system  research  is  sought,  identified  and 
coordinated  with  related  PIER  energy  and  environmental  research. 

•  Active  membership  in  the  Association  of  State  Energy  Research  and  Technology 
Transfer  Institute  (ASERTTI). 

•  The  Energy  Commission,  CPUC,  and  the  lOUs  participate  in  the  Emerging 
Technologies  Coordinating  Council  (ETCC),  a  collaborative  forum  for  the  Energy 
Commission  and  others  to  exchange  information  on  RD&D  opportunities  and  to 
coordinate  introduction  to  the  marketplace  new  emerging  technologies. 

•  Participating  in  industry  technical  memberships  with  organizations  like  the 
Electric  Power  Research  Institute  (EPRI)  and  the  Emerging  Technology 
Coordinating  Council. 

•  Hosting  multi-agency  sponsored  climate  change  conferences. 

•  Coordinating  with  the  Department  of  Water  Resources  during  the  development  of 
the  State  Water  Plan. 

Participating  on  CARBs  Climate  Change  Review  Committee. 
Developing  an  Energy  Commission  long-term  climate  change  research  plan. 
Evaluating  researchers  and  resources  at  the  University  of  California  (UC)  for  their 
potential  contribution  to  cutting  edge  research. 

Working  directly  with  individual  companies  to  further  develop  promising  new 
technologies  with  patents,  etc.,  and  negotiate  for  the  lowest  cost  for  the  state. 
Sponsorship  of  many  conferences  and  workshops  on  specific  technology  areas 
to  collaborate  and  coordinate  research  efforts. 


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Through  many  such  mechanisms  we  are  able  to  accomplish  and  evaluate  how  well  our 
research  efforts  are  coordinated  with  others,  and  leam  about  new  research 
opportunities  to  address  the  many  energy  and  climate  change  challenges  that  the  State 
of  California  faces. 


16.     What,  if  any,  improvements  would  you  suggest  to  ensure  that  state  research 
programs  are  better  coordinated  among  agencies,  the  University  of  California,  and 
the  federal  government  to  avoid  duplication  of  effort? 

As  noted  above,  the  state  already  provides,  and  the  Energy  Commission  takes  part  in, 
research  coordination  through: 

1 .  The  Climate  Action  Team's  Research  Subgroup 

2.  Participation  of  state  agencies  on  federal  research  committees 

3.  Participation  of  federal  experts  on  state  research  committees 

4.  State  funding  and  participation  in  university  research  centers 

5.  University  researchers  providing  expertise  to  state  research 

6.  Joint  state  agency  and  utility  research  committees 

7.  Interagency  research  agreements 

The  Energy  Commission's  RD&D  program  follows  the  research  guidance  of  SB  1250 
and  other  legislation,  as  well  as  the  energy  priorities  established  by  the  Energy 
Commission's  IEPR  and  the  statewide  interagency  Energy  Action  Plan.  The  Energy 
Commission  also  receives  feedback  and  direction  from  the  PIER  Advisory  Board, 
comprised  of  California  legislators,  state  and  federal  agencies,  national  laboratories, 
universities,  and  experts  in  the  energy  research  community.  We  are  scheduling  the  next 
meeting  of  the  Board  for  the  January-February  2009  timeframe.  During  the  Board's  last 
meeting,  Energy  Commission  staff  reviewed  the  ongoing  research  efforts  and  discussed 
research  priorities.  In  the  future,  I  believe  active  participation  in  the  Board's  activities 
and  guidance  by  all  the  members  would  help  ensure  that  PIER  research  is  coordinated 
with  other  efforts  in  the  state  and  the  nation.  I  also  believe  the  Energy  Commission 
should  enable  the  Board  to  meet  more  frequently  as  research  needs  change,  to  gain 
additional  policy  guidance  and  ensure  coordination. 

I  believe  the  Energy  Commission  must  rely  more  heavily  on  competitive  solicitations  to 
identify  and  fund  technology-advancing  projects.  As  proposals  for  similar  research  are 
put  forward,  the  most  promising  applications  can  be  selected  and  duplicative  research 
winnowed  out.  In  addition,  I  believe  that  the  Energy  Commission  should  increase  the 
funding  allotments  for  which  competitors  would  bid.  This  should  increase  the  number  of 
competitors  and  help  eliminate  duplicative  research. 

As  noted  in  Question  15,  the  Energy  Commission  has  supported  energy  research 
centers  at  California's  universities  and  Energy  Commission  staff  sits  on  the  Boards  of 
Directors  of  some  of  these  centers.  This  not  only  gives  us  access  to  the  types  of 
research  the  faculty  is  undertaking,  but  the  faculty  also  provides  us  with  information 

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about  work  conducted  by  other  universities  and  researchers.  I  believe  that  the  Energy 
Commission  should  increase  its  participation  in  these  university  research  centers  and 
support  the  creation  and  operation  of  more. 

Finally,  I  think  each  agency  should  prepare  updated  and  multi-year  strategic  research 
plans  and  the  Climate  Action  team  should  endorse  a  statewide  research  plan  that 
ensures  non-duplication  and  identifies  complementary  research  areas  for  state 
agencies,  universities  and  federal  government.  I  would  not  want  to  see  unnecessary 
layers  of  bureaucracy  added  in  the  name  of  coordination  that  would  have  the  effect  of 
slowing  down  the  process  and  removing  the  flexibility  necessary  to  react  to  topical 
issues  and  rapidly  developing  technologies. 


PIER  Program  and  the  Use  of  Contracts 

The  Public  Interest  Energy  Research  (PIER)  Program  was  created  in  1996  when  the 
state  Legislature  enacted  AB  1890  (Brulte),  Chapter  854,  Statutes  of  1996,  California's 
electric  utility  restructuring  legislation.  This  law  requires  that  funds  be  collected  annually 
from  the  three  investor-owned  electric  utilities  and  deposited  in  the  Public  Interest 
Energy  Research  and  Development  Account,  to  be  invested  by  the  Energy  Commission 
in  RD&D.  Passage  of  this  law  shifted  administration  of  public  interest  RD&D  from 
California's  investor-owned  utilities  to  state  government — a  major  change  intended  to 
ensure  the  continuation  of  public  interest  energy  RD&D. 

In  February  2008  the  Assembly  Committee  on  Utilities  and  Commerce  held  a  special 
oversight  hearing  on  the  Energy  Commission's  use  of  outside  contracts  for  various 
Energy  Commission  services.  A  key  focus  of  this  hearing  was  the  PIER  program  and 
the  contracts  the  Energy  Commission  uses  for  the  administration  of  PIER.  One  of  the 
committee's  chief  concerns  was  that  the  Energy  Commission  was  paying  for  high-priced 
consultants  for  services  that  could  be  or  are  already  performed  by  civil  service 
equivalents,  who  are  more  cost-effective  to  the  state. 

1 7.    What  steps  has  the  commission  taken  since  the  oversight  hearing  to  address  the 
potential  redundancy  of  outside  contracts  for  the  administration  of  the  PIER 
program? 

Since  the  oversight  hearing,  only  2  of  the  1 7  consultants  still  have  contracts  with  the 
Energy  Commission's  R&D  Division,  a  reduction  of  89  percent.  Two  additional  high 
level  staff  are  from  the  University  of  California  system  through  an  Inter-Jurisdictional 
Exchange  (IJE)  and  are  thus  considered  to  be  Energy  Commission  staff;  one  of  those 
IJE  arrangements  will  end  within  the  next  six  months  (Dr.  Martha  Krebs)  whose  role  is 
as  the  Chief  Science  Advisor,  and  the  other  in  2010,  Dr.  Larry  Meyer,  who  is  the  lead 
scientist  in  the  West  Carbon  Sequestration  project.  Neither  IJE  will  be  renewed.  The 
remaining  two  consultants  will  continue  to  provide  specific  and  specialized  technical  and 
limited  research  activities  for  a  period  of  no  more  than  two  years. 


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18.    What  administrative  protocols  do  you  believe  should  be  put  in  place  to  ensure  the 
long-term  efficient  use  of  state  resources  for  the  PIER  program? 

In  April  2009  the  Energy  Commission  contracted  with  the  Department  of  Finance  (DOF) 
to  audit  the  operation  of  the  PIER  program,  provide  recommendations  for  improvement, 
issue  a  report  on  any  deficiencies,  and  recommend  administrative  actions  that  would 
help  the  program  operate  more  efficiently  and  effectively.  The  Energy  Commission 
expects  the  draft  of  the  DOF  audit  in  late  December,  and  the  final  audit  will  be 
completed  in  late  January.  I  expect  this  audit  to  identify  administrative  protocols  that  the 
Energy  Commission  will  implement  to  ensure  the  long-term  efficient  use  of  state 
resources  for  the  PIER  program. 


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Goals  and  Governance 

1.  What  were  your  most  significant  accomplishments  during  your  first  term  as  a 
member  ofSBE?  What  do  you  hope  to  accomplish  during  your  second  term? 
How  will  you  measure  your  success? 

I  have  served  on  the  SBE  since  September  of  2006,  having  been  appointed  to 
complete  the  unexpired  term  of  a  former  member.  Coming  onto  the  SBE,  I  set  some 
specific  personal  goals,  which  were  to  diligently  and  thoroughly  review  issues  that 
came  before  the  Board,  and  to  shape  my  input  and  base  my  decisions  on  policy  and 
regulation  development  in  a  manner  that  encompassed  more  broadly  the  interests  of 
all  students.  Further,  I  pledged  to  examine,  in  a  truthful  and  honest  manner,  the  real- 
world  outcomes  and  impacts  that  would  result  from  those  deliberations  and  decisions. 
To  that  end,  I  feel  that  I  have  lived  up  to  my  personal  commitments,  and  feel  that  I 
have  been  an  effective  member  of  the  SBE. 

As  I  look  forward  to  my  second  term,  I  hope  to  become  a  more  effective  voice  for 
discussing  policy  and  regulatory  issues  in  terms  of  their  practical  impact  on  schools, 
teachers,  and  students.  My  goals  include  shaping  the  dialog  and  discussion  in  a 
manner  that  leads  to  the  development  of  curriculum  and  programs  that  are  more 
engaging  and  relevant  to  all  students.  My  success  will  be  measured  by  the  degree  to 
which  I  can  effectively  and  positively  play  a  role  in  that  regard. 

2.  The  Governor 's  Commission  on  Education  Excellence  released  a  report  recently 
which  described  education  governance  as  a  "crazy  quilt.  "  How  do  you  view  your 
role  and  responsibilities  within  this  structure? 

I  regard  my  role  and  responsibilities  on  the  Board  quite  simply  -  to  do  my  best  to 
make  the  most  informed,  thoughtful  decisions  possible  on  matters  that  come  before  us 
for  our  consideration.  I  am  troubled  at  times  by  the  lack  of  effective  communication 
between  the  Board  and  other  policy  stakeholders,  and  believe  that  we  need  to  do  more 
to  initiate  those  discussions.  I  hope  that  our  upcoming  Board  retreat  will  give  us  an 
opportunity  to  set  some  specific  goals  to  create  those  liaisons. 

3.  As  a  board  member,  what  training  have  you  received  regarding  conflicts  of 
interest?  From  whom  do  you  seek  advice  on  potential  conflicts?  Specifically, 
who  has  provided  you  with  training  on  potential  conflicts  with  respect  to  career 
technical  education  issues? 

Shortly  after  my  initial  appointment  to  the  Board,  I  completed  the  ethics  training 
course  offered  through  the  Attorney  General's  Office.  In  addition,  I  consulted  with 
then-Board  Counsel  Paul  Seave  and  explained  the  parameters  of  my  employment 
with  the  California  Agricultural  Teachers'  Association,  and  sought  his  advice  and 
expertise  relative  to  any  potential  issues.  I  have  been  very  diligent  in  complying  with 
both  the  intent  and  letter  of  the  law  in  this  regard,  and  will  continue  to  do  so  in  the 
future. 

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4.  Given  that  you  are  the  executive  director  of  the  California  Agricultural  Teachers ' 
Association  and  a  recognized  advocate  for  career  and  technical  education,  when, 
if  ever,  do  you  believe  it  is  appropriate  to  recuse  yourself  from  voting  on  an  item 
pending  before  the  board?  Have  you  ever  done  so? 

I  believe  it  is  proper  to  recuse  myself  from  deliberating  and  voting  on  an  item  any 
time  there  is  a  question  of  the  personal  or  fiduciary  impact  of  that  decision  on  my 
status  as  executive  director  of  the  CATA.  Specifically,  I  would  clearly  recuse  myself 
if  the  Board  considered  agenda  items  that  directly  impacted  the  allocation  of 
resources  for  CTE  or  Agricultural  Education  in  a  manner  that  held  any  potential 
benefit  to  my  organization  or  to  me  personally.  To  date,  that  has  not  occurred.  I 
would  most  happily  recuse  myself  if  the  California  State  Legislature,  the  Governor,  or 
any  other  entity  granted  the  SBE  such  an  opportunity  in  the  future. 

Accountability 

5.  Current  K-12  education  is  criticized  for  putting  too  much  pressure  on  schools  to 
"teach  to  the  test ",  referring  to  achievement  tests.  How  do  you,  as  a  board 
member,  evaluate  our  testing  policy  and  take  steps  to  modify  it,  if  necessary? 
How  do  you  balance  the  need  to  measure  achievement  against  the  danger  of  an 
over-emphasis  on  test  results  crowding  out  other  objectives?  How  do  you 
determine  how  much  testing  is  too  much? 

In  my  tenure  on  the  Board,  I  have  approached  this  issue  with  my  earlier-stated 
goal  of  basing  my  decisions  on  the  real-world  impact  on  schools,  teachers,  and 
students.  It's  not  always  an  easy  call,  and  occasionally  my  viewpoint  has  not  been 
shared  by  a  majority  of  the  Board.  I  clearly  understand  the  need  for  assessing  the 
progress  of  our  schools  and  students,  but  have  been  hesitant  to  enact  policies  that,  in 
my  opinion,  further  isolate  and  frustrate  the  very  populations  that  need  the  most 
assistance  in  making  meaningful  gains.  Too  many  of  our  students  view  school  and 
education  as  an  endless  stream  of  "memorize,  test,  and  forget"  activities  that  have  no 
relevant  connection  to  their  future.  I  think  that's  an  unfortunate  situation,  and  I 
believe  that  we  must  continue  to  refine  and  modify  our  policies  so  that  there  is  clear 
understanding  of  the  purpose  and  goals  of  our  assessment  program. 


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6.  How  do  respond  to  the  criticism  that  current  test  scores  are  not  a  true  reflection 
of  achievement  in  California  because  the  Iom>  est  performing  students  have  already 
dropped  out  and  are  not  being  tested? 

There  is  certainly  some  validity  to  that  argument,  but  it's  also  important  to  note 
that  a  significant  number  of  dropouts  are  not  "failing"  in  school,  just  bored  with 
curriculum  that  they  view  as  irrelevant  to  their  lives.  It  would  be  a  mistake  to  think 
that  all  dropouts  are  incapable  of  achieving  satisfactory  test  scores.  However,  there  is 
a  general  recognition  that  there  is  a  perverse  "incentive"  for  districts  to  have  the 
lowest-achieving  and  most  disinterested  students  not  be  included  in  the  general 
population  of  students  taking  part  in  statewide  testing.  There  have  been  recent 
statutory  revisions  enacted  to  address  this  issue,  and  they  will  hopefully  create  a  more 
accurate  picture  of  true  student  achievement. 

7.  The  board  recently  raised  test  score  targets  so  that  specific  subgroups  of  students, 
including  those  with  the  highest  dropout  rates,  will  be  expected  to  improve  their 
performance  even  more  than  in  the  past.   Given  that  the  dropout  rate  in  urban 
districts  is  estimated  between  50-  70  percent,  how  do  you  determine  when  or  if  the 
targets  you  are  raising  are  increasing  or  decreasing  the  number  of  dropouts? 

The  setting  of  consistent  goals  establishes  the  expectation  that  all  students  in  this  state 
are  valued,  and  that  they  all  deserve  access  to  the  same  high  levels  of  inspired 
instruction,  educational  leadership,  vibrant  curriculum,  safe  and  modern  facilities,  and 
other  educational  support  resources  necessary  to  succeed.  In  too  many  cases,  students 
feel  disconnected  from  the  educational  programs,  practices,  and  curricula  offered  on 
their  campuses,  and  simply  walk  away  from  what  they  view  as  an  unresponsive 
educational  system.  We  certainly  need  to  examine  the  impact  that  achieving  these 
higher  goals  has  on  students,  but  more  importantly  we  need  to  work  to  ensure  that 
adequate  and  equitable  resources  are  in  place  to  help  them  achieve  success. 

8.  The  Legislative  Analyst  recently  released  a  report  suggesting  that  federal  and 
state  accountability  standards  be  consolidated  so  that  districts  understand  more 
clearly  what  is  expected  of  them.  Do  you  agree  with  this  recommendation?  If  so, 
what  are  you  doing  to  implement  it? 

The  Legislative  Analysts'  report  contained  many  recommendations  that  deserve  more 
attention  and  discussion.  It  has  been  generally  recognized  that  neither  measurement, 
federal  or  state,  is  perfect  in  design,  and  it  may  very  well  be  possible  to  develop  a 
more  clearly  understandable  process  in  the  future.  We  should  continue  to  evaluate 
the  LAO  proposals  and  determine  if  there  are  ways  that  we  can  improve  given  the 
limitations  of  the  federal  act. 


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9.  Some  districts  have  been  sanctioned  for  their  failure  to  reach  specific  "No  Child 
Left  Behind"  goals.  In  addition,  the  state  board  recently  increased  API  growth 
targets  for  underperforming  subgroups.  It  is  not  likely  that  state  budget  funding 
will  increase  for  these  districts  given  the  budget  situation.  As  you  make  decisions 
that  affect  school  districts,  how  do  you  factor  in  the  problems  that  district  face  in 
a  difficult  budget  year? 

The  schools  that  were  sanctioned  for  failing  to  reach  their  goals  were 
differentiated  by  the  degree  to  which  they  had  made  substantial  ongoing  progress  and 
other  mitigating  factors,  resulting  in  different  intervention  levels.  The  districts 
needing  the  highest  level  of  intervention  and  assistance  were  designated  to  receive 
proportionately  increased  resources  available  from  the  federal  government.  These 
resources  had  been  previously  allocated  by  the  federal  government  for  this  purpose, 
and  are  not  affected  by  the  ongoing  state  budget  discussions.  Hopefully  these 
resources  will  be  made  available  to  districts  in  the  near  future. 

1 0.  The  Board  has  responsibility  for  standards  and  curriculum.  It  is  estimated  that 
all  districts  will  be  in  program  improvement  by  2013-14.    What  is  the  long-term 
strategy  for  developing  standards  and  curriculum  for  students  that  address 
program  improvement  issues? 

The  circumstance  cited  above  is  a  result  of  California  establishing  high  goals  for 
all  of  its  students.  Other  states  chose  to  establish  minimum  standards,  and  are  now  in 
full  compliance  with  federal  guidelines.  Our  goals  are  laudable,  and  as  we  move 
forward,  we  need  to  balance  our  desire  to  maintain  high  standards  with  the  need  to 
engage  all  students  in  rich,  diverse  curriculum  that  they  see  as  relevant  to  their  lives 
and  future.  Our  efforts  to  improve  the  academic  performance  of  our  students  must 
utilize  more  diverse  strategies  and  practices  if  we  hope  to  attain  our  lofty  goals. 

11.  Do  you  believe  that  the  board  is  doing  everything  within  its  power  to  assist 
districts  with  meeting  the  requirement  ofNCLB?  If  so,  what  specific  steps  has  the 
board  taken? 

The  board  has  approved  the  expenditure  of  additional  funds  for  districts 
struggling  to  provide  adequate  facilities,  materials,  and  experienced  teachers  to  meet 
the  requirements  ofNCLB.  We  have  approved  the  delivery  of  targeted  assistance  to 
districts  identified  in  the  lowest  two  deciles  on  the  API.  We  continue  to  search  for 
ways  to  provide  support  and  assistance  to  these  districts.  I  believe  the  board  clearly 
recognizes  the  many  challenges  faced  by  these  struggling  districts  and  communities. 


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12.  There  has  been  extensive  discussion  on  options  for  students  with  disabilities  who 
are  unable  to  pass  the  exit  exam.   Currently,  there  are  legislative  proposals 
addressing  the  issue.  However,  in  the  meantime  many  students  with  disabilities  in 
the  class  of  2008  are  left  in  limbo.    What  course  of  action  would  you  recommend 
for  those  students,  and  what  course  of  action  would  you  propose  as  a  long-term 
solution? 

I  would  recommend  that  those  students  continue  to  work  with  their  districts  and 
schools  to  obtain  the  support  and  assistance  needed  to  pass  the  exam.  The  board  has 
allocated  resources  for  this  purpose  as  part  of  a  settlement  agreement  negotiated  with 
advocates  for  these  students.  Over  the  long  haul,  we  need  to  ensure  that  students  with 
disabilities  have  appropriate  instruction,  assistance,  and  resources  identified  in  their 
individual  education  plans  at  their  disposal  as  they  prepare  for  and  take  the  exit  exam. 

13.  Federal  law  requires  an  alternative  assessment  be  provided  for  students  with 
disabilities  but  the  Board  has  never  authorized  an  alternative.   The  Board's  response 
has  been  to  allow  local  districts  to  seek  a  waiver  from  the  test  for  affected  students. 
How  should  the  Board  accommodate  students  who  wish  to  take  the  test  rather  than 
waive  the  testing  requirement?  Should  an  alternative  assessment  be  developed  for 
them? 

The  idea  of  developing  an  alternative  assessment  is  very  appealing  at  first  blush,  but 
given  the  resources  needed  to  develop  the  type  of  assessment  tools  that  are 
educationally  sound,  while  properly  addressing  the  specific  challenges  of  each 
student,  is  an  overwhelming  task.  We  do  need  to  continue  to  explore  ways  to 
accommodate  the  students  who  desire  to  complete  the  exam,  and  provide  them  with 
the  assistance  they  need  to  succeed. 


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English  Learners 

14.  Concerns  have  been  raised  that  the  state 's  Reading  Language  Arts  and  English 
Language  Development  framework  is  not  designed  in  a  manner  to  ensure  that  a 
student  will  achieve  sufficient  proficiency  in  English  to  meet  academic  standards 
and  pass  CAHSEE.  How  do  you  respond  to  this  criticism?  What,  if  any,  changes 
would  you  recommend  to  ensure  each  student  has  the  instructional  materials 
necessary  to  attain  reading  and  English  proficiency? 

To  the  extent  that  the  content  standards  are  aligned  to  both  the  frameworks  and 
CAHSEE,  the  first  point  may  not  be  as  valid  as  the  second.  The  bigger  issue,  beyond 
framework  design,  is  whether  all  of  the  instructional  support,  professional 
development,  and  supplemental  support  programs  are  adequately  provided  in  a 
manner  that's  effective.  This  is  one  area  of  education  that  the  Board  needs  to 
continue  to  work  on  to  ensure  that  the  best  available  instructional  materials,  as  well  as 
the  most  effective  instructional  practices,  are  used  for  English  and  reading 
development. 

15.  Should  the  board  take  any  actions  specific  to  English  learners  in  an  effort  to 
narrow  the  achievement  gap? 

The  board  has  responded  to  the  need  to  provide  additional  resources,  including 
new  intervention  programs  and  supplemental  materials,  aimed  at  improving 
vocabulary  and  writing  instruction.  Development  of  new  criteria  used  to  evaluate  the 
effectiveness  of  English  learner  support  materials  and  struggling  reader  materials  has 
resulted  in  improved  instruction,  and  is  available  for  teachers  and  schools  to  use  as 
needed.  Everyone  involved  in  education,  especially  the  board,  must  continue  to 
examine  the  factors  that  contribute  to  this  achievement  gap,  and  seek  ways  to  provide 
resources  and  educational  opportunities  that  seek  to  fully  engage  all  students. 

16.  SBE  recently  reestablished  the  English  Learners  Advisory  Committee  (ELAC). 
What  role  will  ELAC  play  in  deciding  board  policy?   What  is  the  goal  of  the 
committee?   Will  you  be  involved  with  ELAC?  If  so,  how? 

I  strongly  supported  the  reestablishment  of  the  English  Learners  Advisory 
Committee,  and  look  forward  to  engaging  in  discussions  and  policy  development 
activities  brought  forth  as  recommendations  by  the  committee.  I  view  this  as  an 
important  step  in  providing  all  members  of  the  board  with  the  necessary  information 
and  advice  needed  to  make  informed  policy  decisions.  I  am  not  currently  designated 
as  a  liaison  of  the  board  to  the  committee,  but  look  forward  to  working  with  members 
of  the  committee  and  with  my  peers  on  the  board  to  address  issues  identified  by  the 
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Goals  and  Governance 

The  State  Board  of  Education  (SBE)  is  responsible  for  setting  policy  and  adopting  rules  and 
regulations  for  governing  standards,  curriculum,  instructional  materials,  assessment,  and 
accountability.  The  board  is  also  responsible  for  approving  waivers  of  certain  provisions  of  the 
Education  Code,  reviewing  district  reorganization  plans,  implementing  federal  programs,  and 
adopting  regulations  to  implement  legislation.  Some  of  these  duties  overlap  with  those  of  the 
Superintendent  of  Public  Instruction. 

1 .     What  were  your  most  significant  accomplishments  during  your  first  term  as  a  member 
of  SBE?  What  do  you  hope  to  accomplish  during  your  second  term?  How  will  you 
measure  your  success? 

As  the  principal  of  a  large,  urban,  high-poverty  school  in  Los  Angeles  that  serves  2,200 
PreK-H*  grade  students,  I  have  been  able  to  use  my  knowledge  and  skills  to  achieve 
significant  accomplishments  during  my  first  term  as  a  member  of  the  SBE.  As  the  Board 
liaison  to  the  Special  Education  Commission,  liaison  to  the  Nutrition  Advisory  Council  and 
liaison  to  the  Curriculum  Commission  on  instructional  materials  related  to  English  learners, 
I'm  proud  to  have  accomplished  the  following: 

•  Approval  of  the  California  Modified  Assessment  (CMA)  for  students  with 
disabilities.  The  assessment  was  available  in  the  elementary  grades  in  spring,  2008 
and  will  be  available  to  secondary  grades  beginning  spring  2009. 

•  Adoption  of  regulations  applicable  to  special  education  teachers  in  secondary 
schools  so  they  can  be  deemed  "highly  qualified"  under  No  Child  Left  Behind. 
Teachers  who  possess  a  special  education  credential  but  not  a  single  subject 
credential  will  be  provided  with  32-hour  training  and/or  coursework  so  they  can 
provide  core  subject  instruction  to  students  with  disabilities. 
Participation  in  the  Special  Education  Commission  to  formalize  a  set  of 
recommendations  to  the  SBE  and  the  legislature  related  to  CAHSEE. 
Approval  of  four  Special  Education  Planning  Areas  (SELPA)  pilots  that  would 
include  state-authorized  charter  schools  in  the  coordination  of  special  education 
services  to  assure  accountability  and  effectiveness. 

Adoption  of  the  new  health  education  standards  after  intensive  participation  in  the 
Nutrition  Advisory  Council. 

Approval  of  regulations  for  SB  12/965  which  delineate  policies  related  to  the  sale  of 
food  and  beverages  on  campus  to  assure  nutritious  meals  for  all  students. 
Revision  of  Title  5  regulations  related  to  instructional  materials  adoption  to  improve 
transparency,  public  engagement,  communication  and  availability  of  digital  texts. 
Monitoring  the  new  adoption  of  English/Language  Arts  programs  to  assure  the 
integration  of  English  Language  Arts  standards  (ELA)  and  the  English  Language 
Development  standards  (ELD)  to  meet  the  needs  of  all  students  including  English 
learners. 

Participation  in  the  revival  of  the  English  Learners  Advisory  Committee. 
Adoption  of  professional  training  criteria  (AB  472)  to  include  strategies  for  English 
learners. 

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•  Participation  in  the  Commission  for  Teacher  Credentialing  in  the  initial  phase  of  SB 
1209  implementation,  specifically  in  the  streamlining  of  BCLAD  and  foreign 
language  certification. 

•  Participation  in  the  review  of  California's  new  Foreign/World  language  standards  to 
make  sure  that  California  remains  globally  competitive. 

If  confirmed  for  a  second  term,  I  hope  to  accomplish  the  following: 

•  Adopt  quality  ELA/ELD  curricular  materials  with  electronic  resources  at  an 
affordable  price.  (Evidence  —  material  availability  and  costs.) 

•  Establish  a  process  for  review  and  update  of  the  state  academic  content  standards  to 
coincide  with  the  existing  process  for  the  revision  of  curriculum  frameworks  and  the 
adoption  of  instructional  materials.  Consider  the  integration  of  global  literacy 
standards  across  core  areas  so  California  students  will  be  college  prepared  and 
globally  competent.  (Evidence  -  standards  updates.) 

•  Assume  a  leadership  role  in  the  adoption  of  Foreign/World  Language  standards, 
framework  and  instructional  materials.  (Evidence  -  availability  of  instructional 
materials.) 

•  Explore  ways  of  reducing  the  testing  burden  on  students  and  make  the  assessment 
more  relevant  to  what  they  are  actually  doing  in  class  especially  in  high  schools. 
(Evidence  -  assessment  system  and  timeline.) 

•  Develop  and  adopt  a  methodology  for  generating  a  measurement  of  academic 
performance  using  unique  student  identifiers  (CALPADs)  and  develop  a  vertically 
scaled  assessment  system  in  which  annual  academic  growth  can  provide  a  more 
accurate  measure  of  both  school's  and  student's  academic  achievement  growth  over 
time.(Evidence  -  an  improved  data  system.) 

•  Study  needs  of  English  learners  and  potential  economic  advantages  that  language 
diversity  brings  to  California  and  advocate  for  the  study  of  world  languages  that 
could  be  highly  valued  in  the  global  economy.  (Evidence  -  students  with  access  to 
world  language  instruction.) 

•  Examine  new  ways  of  accurately  assessing  students  with  disabilities  including 
STAR,  CMA,  and  CAHSEE  to  ensure  that  the  test  instruments  are  universally 
accessible.  (Evidence  -  available  modifications  and  other  assessment  tools.) 

•  Expand  professional  development  for  teachers  of  students  with  disabilities  to 
include  intensive  training  on  autism.  (Evidence  -  teachers  have  access  to  training.) 

•  Change  the  perception  that  SBE  favors  charters  over  traditional  public  schools  by 
leading  honest  discussions  on  shared  mission.  Prop  39  struggles,  enrollment  and 
funding  issues.(Evidence  -  partnership  between  charter  and  non-charter  schools.) 

2.     The  Governor's  Commission  on  Education  Excellence  released  a  report  recently 
which  described  education  governance  as  a  "crazy  quilt "  How  do  you  view  your  role 
and  responsibilities  within  this  structure? 

I  came  to  the  United  States  of  America  because  it  values  diversity  of  ideas.  For  democracy 
to  thrive  there  must  be  divergent  voices,  shared  authority  and  accountability.  Thus, 
regardless  of  the  governance  structure,  I'm  responsible  for  helping  all  students  succeed  by 
developing  and  adopting  policies  that  will  accomplish  the  mission.  To  close  the 
achievement  gap,  there  is  plenty  of  work  to  be  done  by  all  parties  (the  Governor,  the 


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Secretary  of  Education,  the  Legislature,  the  Superintendent  of  Public  Instruction,  the 
professional  organizations,  the  students  and  families,  and  the  public,  etc.)  and  my  role  is  to 
work  with  every  entity. 

3.  As  a  board  member,  what  training  have  you  received  regarding  conflicts  of  interest? 
From  whom  do  you  seek  advice  on  potential  conflicts?  Specifically,  who  has  provided 
you  with  training  on  potential  conflicts  with  respect  to  charter  school  issues? 

As  an  appointed  public  official,  I  hold  myself  out  to  the  highest  ethical  standards.  To 
become  familiar  with  the  laws  related  to  ethical  conduct,  I  completed  the  online  interactive 
ethics  training  developed  jointly  by  the  Attorney  General  and  the  Fair  Political  Practices 
Commission  (April  2007)  (AG/FPPC).  In  addition,  Mr.  Paul  Seave,  the  former  chief 
counsel  for  the  state  board,  provided  legal  advice  on  conflicts  issues  whenever  I  requested 
this  advice.  During  the  recent  period  when  the  state  board  did  not  have  a  chief  counsel, 
legal  counsel  for  the  California  Department  of  Education  (CDE)  advised  board  members  on 
when  to  disclose  a  conflict  of  interest  and  when  we  needed  to  recuse  ourselves  from 
participating  in  a  decision  with  respect  to  charter  school  issues.,  I  have  always  followed  the 
advice  of  counsel  when  advised  to  recuse  myself  due  to  a  conflict  of  interest.  As  you  know, 
we  now  have  a  newly-appointed  chief  counsel,  Donna  Neville,  and  she  is  presently  working 
on  specialized  ethics  training  for  state  board  members. 

I  also  serve  as  a  Commissioner  on  the  Los  Angeles  City  Commission  for  Children,  Youth 
and  Families.  The  Los  Angeles  City  Ethics  Commission  is  highly-regarded  for  its  proactive 
approach  to  ethics  training  for  public  officials,  and  through  that  commission  I  received  a 
full-day  of  ethics  training  and  a  full-day  of  ethics  training  by  the  Los  Angeles  City 
Attorney's  Office.  In  addition,  I  have,  in  the  past  4  years,  completed  the  biennial  AG/FPPC 
course  and  received  certification.  I  have  also  attended  ethics  workshops  sponsored  by  the 
National  Association  of  Charter  Authorizers  and  the  National  Alliance  of  Public  Charter 
Schools.  I  have  also  worked  closely  with  legal  counsel  for  the  Los  Angeles  Unified  School 
District  (LAUSD)  to  ensure  that  I  do  not  have  a  conflict  of  interest  when  I  vote  on  a  waiver 
request  by  LAUSD. 

I  believe  that  my  considerable  training  in  this  area  has  given  me  a  strong  familiarity  with 
conflict  of  interest  laws.  As  always,  I  will  continue  to  seek  the  advice  of  board  counsel  when 
there  are  matters  pending  before  the  board  that  might  present  a  potential  conflict  for  me. 

4.  Given  that  you  are  the  principal  of  a  charter  school,  when,  if  ever,  do  you  believe  it  is 
appropriate  to  recuse  yourself  from  voting  on  a  charter  school  item  pending  before 
the  board?  Have  you  ever  done  so?  Specifically,  when  the  board  approved 
regulations  on  the  use  of  district  facilities  for  charter  schools  under  Proposition  39, 
how  did  you  determine  whether  or  not  you  had  a  conflict  of  interest? 

It  would  be  appropriate  for  me  to  recuse  myself  from  participating  in  any  way  in  a  board 
decision  when  state  conflict  of  interest  laws  prohibit  my  participation  in  the  decision.  In 
addition,  there  may  also  be  situations  where  my  participation  in  a  state  board  decision  would 
not  present  a  conflict  of  interest  under  the  law,  but  where  I  might  abstain  from  voting 
because  of  the  appearance  of  a  conflict  of  interest.  The  responsibility  to  make  board 

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decisions  that  are  in  the  public  interest  is  one  that  I  take  very  seriously,  and  whenever  the 
board  is  presented  with  a  decision  that  presents  a  concern  for  me  I  seek  the  advice  of  legal 
counsel.  As  examples,  I  have  recused  myself  from  voting  on  state  board  decisions  regarding 
the  approval  of  Title  1,  Title  III,  and  other  grants  awarded  to  Vaughn  Next  Century 
Learning  Center. 

With  respect  to  the  approval  of  the  Proposition  39  regulations,  I  was  recruited  as  the  SBE 
liaison  to  the  Prop  39  Task  Force  that  drafted  the  regulations  for  the  purpose  of  clarifying 
the  rights  and  responsibilities  of  both  charter  schools  and  the  districts  whose  students  the 
charter  schools  serve.  The  Task  Force,  which  included  Ed.  Coalition  members,  charter 
school  representatives  and  CDE,  understood  that  compromise  must  be  reached  to  avoid 
years  of  confusion,  disputes  and  litigation.  I  brought  my  extensive  experience  as  the  leader 
of  a  successful  charter  school  to  the  table  when  I  worked  on  these  regulations,  and  neither 
my  personal  financial  interests  nor  the  financial  interest  of  the  Vaughn  Next  Century 
Learning  Center  (Vaughn )  were  affected  by  these  regulations.  Thus,  I  did  not  believe  it  was 
a  conflict  to  work  on  these  regulations  or  to  approve  them. 

In  fact,  the  Vaughn  Next  Century  Learning  Center  (Vaughn)  has  not  been  impacted  by  these 
regulations.  Vaughn  converted  into  a  charter  school  in  1993,  and  has  never  submitted  a  Prop 
39  application  for  facilities  funding.  Vaughn  has  succeeded  in  creating  1,000  student  seats 
using  joint-use  agreement,  interest-free  loan  from  Federal  Qualified  Zone  Academy  Bond, 
public-private  ventures,  cash  match  from  savings  and  donations,  and  most  recently  from 
State  Prop  55  and  Prop  ID  resources  e.g. 

•  1996  -  built  14  classrooms  to  eliminate  multi-track  schedule 

•  2000  -  built  20  classrooms  to  add  middle  school 

•  2003  -  built  35  classrooms  to  add  a  primary  center 

•  2008  -  built  1 9  classrooms  to  add  a  high  school 

Accountability 

The  Legislature,  the  Superintendent  of  Public  Instruction,  and  members  of  the  public  testifying  at 
board  meetings  have  all  expressed  strong  support  for  the  view  that  the  board's  top  priority  should 
be  addressing  the  achievement  gap  in  California. 

5.      Current  K-12  education  is  criticized  for  putting  too  much  pressure  on  schools  to  "teach 
to  the  test, "  referring  to  achievement  tests.  How  do  you,  as  a  board  member,  evaluate  our 
testing  policy  and  take  steps  to  modify  it,  if  necessary?  How  do  you  balance  the  need  to 
measure  achievement  against  the  danger  of  an  over-emphasis  on  test  results  crowding 
out  other  objectives?  How  do  you  determine  how  much  testing  is  too  much? 

The  SBE  must  evaluate  its  statewide  assessment  system  and  our  testing  policies  to  assure 
that  the  system  measures  performance  and  provides  information  for  instruction.  To  achieve 
these  goals,  I  will  consider  the  following: 

•  Streamline  federal  and  state  required  tests  to  avoid  duplications. 

•  Shorten  some  tests  while  mamtaining  validity. 

•  Establish  an  optimal  pacing  schedule  to  include  all  mandated  tests;  for  high  school 
students.  The  schedule  should  take  into  account  various  college  entrance  exams. 

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•  Work  with  districts  that  also  administer  locally-devised  tests  to  consider  10-hour 
test  time  per  student  per  year  as  the  maximum  testing  load  for  students. 

•  Continue  to  strengthen  standards-based  instruction  and  the  alignment  of  assessment 
to  learning  standards  making  "teaching  to  the  test"  unnecessary. 

•  Implement  CALPADs  and  assure  that  all  test  results  (current  and  historical)  are 
captured  to  allow  demonstration  of  individual  student  progress  over  time. 

•  Expand  CALPADs  to  capture  other  accountability  data  including  attendance,  drop- 
out, progress  towards  reclassification,  suspension/expulsion,  and  IEP  goal- 
attainment. 


6.  How  do  you  respond  to  the  criticism  that  current  test  scores  are  not  a  true  reflection  of 
achievement  in  California  because  the  lowest  performing  students  have  already  dropped 
out  and  are  not  being  tested? 

California  has  a  dropout  crisis.  This  June,  as  high  school  students  across  California  received 
their  diplomas,  our  failure  to  improve  that  system  was  evident  in  the  number  of  student  who 
didn't  graduate.  On  July  16,  2008  CDE  reported  a  staggering  127,  292  high  school  students 
dropped  out  during  the  2006-2007  school  year.  This  represents  more  than  twice  the  number 
of  dropouts  ever  previously  reported.  African- American  and  Latino  students  comprised  70 
percent  of  the  total. 

We  must  expand  the  accountability  system  to  maintain  pressure  on  dropout  prevention 
while  allowing  sufficient  time  to  address  the  problem.  An  enhanced  accountability  system 
should: 

•  Include  a  combination  of  annual  dropout,  9th  grade  promotion,  and  high  school 
graduation  rates. 

•  Collect  and  report  more  useful  data  on  dropouts  and  the  state's  progress  in 
improving  graduation  rates,  e.g.,  including  5-  and  6-year  graduation  rates  in  the 
calculation  of  the  school's  Academic  Performance  Index  (API). 

•  Support  the  implementation  of  SB  2 1 9  that  requires  the  inclusion  of  8th  grade 
dropout  rates  and  accountability  data  for  students  attending  alternative  schools  and 
community  day  schools  in  the  calculation  of  API. 

•  Create  "focused"  districts  that  have  schools  with  high  dropout  rates;  if  a  district 
lacks  the  capacity  to  provide  meaningful  support  to  schools,  schools  can  join  other 
schools  to  form  an  alternative,  regional  support  structure. 

•  Develop  guidelines  specifying  the  roles  and  responsibilities  of  districts  and  external 
providers  in  providing  needed  supports  for  schools  on  dropout  prevention. 

•  Undertake  middle  school  reform  to  motivate  and  maintain  students. 

•  Make  strategic  investments  in  proven  dropout  prevention  strategies  targeting  the 
most  disadvantaged  students  and  schools. 

•  Re-examine  state  high  school  graduation  requirements  to  include  traditional 
academic  skills,  career  tech  skills  as  well  as  so-called  "soft  skills". 

7.  The  board  recently  raised  test  score  targets  so  that  specific  subgroups  of  students, 
including  those  with  the  highest  dropout  rates,  will  be  expected  to  improve  their 
performance  even  more  than  in  the  past.  Given  that  the  dropout  rate  in  urban  districts  is 

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estimated  between  50-70  percent,  how  do  you  determine  when  or  if  the  targets  you  are 
raising  are  increasing  or  decreasing  the  number  of  dropouts? 

Using  a  refined  accountability  system  coupled  with  a  better  data  system  discussed  in  the 
response  to  question  #6  will  provide  the  SBE  with  more  accurate  dropout  information. 
However,  the  SBE  must  begin  to  act  on  the  following: 

•  Adopt  a  uniform  definition  of  graduation  rate  and  thus  dropout  calculation 
methodology  (e.g.,  the  definition  agreed  to  by  the  National  Governors  Association 
which  is  included  in  the  proposed  federal  regulations  (200.19(a)(1)).  Graduation 
rates  should  include  all  graduates,  not  just  those  who  earn  a  diploma  in  the  standard 
four  years.  California  must  commit  to  ensuring  that  all  students  leave  high  school 
with  the  skills  and  knowledge  needed  to  compete  in  the  global  economy.  While 
most  students  do  complete  high  school  in  four  years,  others  take  more  time.  This 
issue  is  even  more  complex  in  California  due  to  the  recent  settlement  of  a  multi- 
year  lawsuit  (Valenzuela  v.  O'Connell)  that  requires  schools  to  provide  outreach  to 
students  who  have  not  yet  passed  the  state  high  school  exit  examination,  a 
condition  of  graduation,  for  up  to  two  years  after  their  expected  graduation  date.  It 
is  critical  that  schools  and  school  districts  track  these  students  and  encourage  them 
to  complete  their  education  even  if  it  takes  up  to  six  years.  Students  with  disabilities 
are  entitled  to  services  until  they  turn  22,  and  a  number  of  these  students  remain  in 
high  schools  more  than  four  years. 

•  Focus  intensively  on  dropout  prevention  and  intervention  by: 

o    Adopting  quality  intervention  materials  for  students  working  below  grade 

level,  including  strategic  intervention  materials  for  students  working  one  to 

two  years  below  grade-level. 
o    Assure  that  schools  provide  intensive  intervention  classes  and  materials  for 

students  working  more  than  two  years  below  grade  level  and  actively 

engage  parents  in  the  process. 
o    Evaluate  the  effectiveness  of  intervention  programs  to  assure  that  these 

programs  address  students'  individual  needs  and  contribute  to  increasing 

students'  academic  proficiency. 
o    Evaluate,  monitor  and  approve  Supplemental  Education  Services  (SES) 

providers. 
o     Scale  up  high-quality  state  preschool  programs,  especially  in  the  low 

income  areas. 

•  Consider  multiple  pathways  to  graduation  to  increase  student  engagement  and 
reduce  dropout  rates  through  smaller  learning  communities  and  personalization, 
mentoring  programs,  advisory  seminars,  career  academies,  expanded  learning  time, 
work-based  learning  opportunities,  and  increased  autonomy  and  scheduling 
flexibility  at  the  school  level.  Creating  schools  that  are  more  in  line  with  the  needs 
of  21st  century  will  require  the  participation  of  legislators,  families,  community 
members  and  business  partners. 

8.      The  Legislative  Analyst  recently  released  a  report  suggesting  that  federal  and  state 

accountability  standards  be  consolidated  so  that  districts  understand  more  clearly  what  is 
expected  of  them.  Do  you  agree  with  this  recommendation?  If  so,  what  are  you  doing  to 
implement  it? 

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Yes,  I  agree  that  the  current  dual  system  of  school  improvement  has  major  problems.  The 
two  sets  of  performance  measures  and  expectations  in  California  send  mixed  messages  to 
teachers,  parents,  schools,  and  districts.  Reform  approaches  that  are  only  school-based 
ignore  the  critical  role  of  districts  and  are  unsustainable.  To  implement  the 
recommendations  of  the  Legislative  Analyst,  the  SBE  should: 

•  Replace  the  dual  system  with  a  unified  system  by: 

o   Unifying  eligibility  criteria  for  program  improvement  status  using  multiple 
indicators,  including  PI  status,  number  of  A  YP  indicators  failed,  number  of 
Title  III  indicators  failed,  etc. 

o  Unify  exit  criteria  and  update  exit  criteria  for  state  improvement  programs 
including  Immediate/Underperforming  Schools  Program  (II/USP,  the  High 
Priority  Schools  Grant  Program  (HPSGP)  and  the  Quality  Education 
Improvement  Act  (QEIA). 

o   Unify  sanctions  applied  to  schools  and  school  districts  (e.g.,  school  choice, 
supplemental  services,  corrective  action,  restructuring)  with  a  system  that 
distinguishes  among  districts  based  on  the  magnitude  of  their  performance; 
(e.g.,  persistently  low  performing  students  or  low  participation  rate). 

•  Link  federal  and  state  funds  tightly  to  reform.  Districts  must  think  strategically 
about  how  to  allocate  resources  and  support  struggling  schools;  the  level  of  support 
from  federal  and  state  funds  should  match  the  intensity,  degree  and  duration  of 
performance  problems. 

•  Assure  that  schools  and  districts  have  high-quality,  SBE-approved  outside  entities 
that  will  become  increasingly  involved  if  performance  problems  worsen. 

•  Use  a  simpler  student  outcome  growth  model.  Creating  vertical  alignment  and/or 
grade-level  growth  models,  and  alignment  of  academic  test  content  from  one  grade 
level  to  the  next  so  that  scores  are  comparable  year  to  year,  may  require  fine-tuning 
the  academic  content  standards  that  are  included  in  state  assessment  (especially  in 
some  content  areas  that  have  standards  which  are  "a  mile  long  and  an  inch  deep"). 

•  Effectively  implement  CALPADs  and  provide  schools  and  school  districts  with 
funding  for  data  collection,  maintenance  and  security. 

No  Child  Left  Behind  Act 

The  federal  No  Child  Left  Behind  Act  (NCLB)  requires  integration  of  the  state  and  federal 
accountability  systems.  Specifically,  federal  law  requires  the  state  to  define  student  proficiency 
according  to  standards-aligned  assessments,  ensure  that  all  schools  make  adequate  yearly 
progress  toward  defined  proficiency  levels,  and  intervene  with  or  sanction  schools  that  do  not 
make  adequate  yearly  progress.  This  is  in  contrast  to  California's  academic  accountability 
system  that  annually  calculates  an  academic  performance  index  for  all  California  public  schools, 
including  charter  schools,  and  publishes  school  rankings  based  on  them. 

Schools  that  do  not  make  their  growth  targets  for  two  consecutive  years  are  designated  program 
improvement  schools.  Districts  that  are  unable  to  exit  program  improvement  face  corrective 
action.  In  March  2008  SBE  imposed  sanctions  for  approximately  100  districts  under  the 

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requirements  of  NCLB;  however,  the  board  action  required  the  affected  districts  to  address  the 
sanctions  whether  or  not  funding  was  provided  for  that  purpose. 

9.  Some  districts  have  been  sanctioned  for  their  failure  to  reach  specific  federal  "No  Child 
Left  Behind**  goals.  In  addition,  the  state  board  recently  increased  API  growth  targets  for 
underperforming  subgroups.  It  is  not  likely  that  state  budget  funding  will  increase  for 
these  districts  given  the  budget  situation.  As  you  make  decisions  that  affect  school 
districts,  how  do  you  factor  in  the  problems  that  districts  face  in  a  difficult  budget  year? 

In  difficult  budget  years,  the  SBE  must  focus  on  the  use  of  available  fiscal  resources 
effectively  and  make  strategic  decisions  on  human  capital.  Strategies  may  include: 

•  Ensure  that  current  intervention  programs  (adopted  curricular  materials  and  instructional 
strategies)  are  effective,  especially  those  targeted  at  the  underperforming  subgroups. 

•  Assure  that  all  fiscal  resources  provided  through  the  state  program  improvement 
programs  (e.g.,  n/USP,  HPSGP,  QEIA)  and  federal  funds  for  supplemental  educational 
services  are  targeted  for  desired  student  outcomes. 

•  Consider  flexibility  in  the  use  of  supplemental  funds  that  are  directly  linked  to  student 
success. 

•  Update  current  state-funded  professional  development  programs  to  include  differentiated 
instruction  through  pacing  and  complexity,  grouping  as  an  aid  to  instruction,  data 
analysis  and  its  effect  on  increasing  pupil  achievement,  and  statewide  and  local  data 
management  systems. 

1 0.  The  Board  has  responsibility  for  standards  and  curriculum.  It  is  estimated  that  all 
districts  will  be  in  program  improvement  by  2013-14.  What  is  the  long-term  strategy  for 
developing  standards  and  curriculum  for  students  that  address  program  improvement 
issues? 

California  has  rigorous  standards.  And,  the  newly-adopted  frameworks  and  curricular 
materials  reflect  the  rigor.  Program  improvement  districts  must  first  have  a  powerful  and 
coherent  educational  improvement  strategy  to  deliver  the  rigorous  standards  and  curricular 
materials  in  order  to  improve  student  academic  achievement.  But  districts  cannot 
implement  a  powerful  educational  improvement  strategy  unless  they  have  both  the 
leadership  and  teaching  talent  to  execute  the  complex  actions  it  requires.  Thus,  one  of  the 
most  important  long  term  strategies  is  the  building  of  human  capital. 

California  needs  to  launch  a  campaign  to  significantly  build  human  capital  at  school  and 
district  sites.  We  must  develop  and  implement  strategies  to  advance  talent  management 
practices  that  will  bolster  teacher  and  administrator  effectiveness  and  dramatically  improve 
student  achievement.  Recruitment,  selection,  placement,  induction  support,  mentoring, 
multiple  pathways  to  certification,  professional  development,  rewarding  performance, 
performance  evaluation,  promotion  into  instructional  leadership  and  retention  of  top  talent 
are  the  means  to  revitalizing  low-performing  schools.  Putting  these  strategies  into  place  is 
not  easy,  and  will  require  new  thinking,  assertive  state  and  local  leadership,  change  in 
school  bureaucracies,  and  broad  political  support. 

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At  this  time,  a  large  majority  of  the  districts  placed  in  Program  Improvement  (PI)  are  so 
designated  because  they  have  not  met  established  proficiency  targets  for  English  learners 
and/or  for  students  with  disabilities.  Thus,  long-term  strategies  for  developing  standards 
and  curriculum  must  take  into  consideration  the  needs  of  these  students.  My  responses  to 
questions  #12-16  address  these  considerations. 

1 1 .   Do  you  believe  that  the  board  is  doing  everything  within  its  power  to  assist  districts  with 
meeting  the  requirements  ofNCLB?  If  so,  what  specific  steps  has  the  board  taken? 

In  March  2008,  the  SBE  assigned  Correction  Action  F  to  each  PI  LEA  in  Correction  Action 
which  requires  them  to  institute  and  fully  implement  "a  new  curriculum  that  is  based  on 
state  academic  content  and  achievement  standards,  including  providing  appropriate 
professional  development  based  on  scientifically-based  research  for  all  relevant  staff  that 
offers  substantial  promise  of  improving  educational  achievement  for  high  priority  pupils." 
Ca  Ed  Code  Section  52055.57(c)(1)(F).  This  is  an  appropriate  beginning  in  assisting 
districts  to  meet  the  requirements  ofNCLB. 

The  SBE  required  each  LEA  to  amend  its  LEA  Plan  or  Plan  Addendum  identifying 
objectives  and  action  steps  to  fully  implement  the  corrective  action  and  bring  LEA  Plans 
and  LEA  Plan  Addendums  to  the  SBE  for  review.  The  SBE  provides  PI  districts  with  clear 
criteria  for  LEA  Plans  including  direction  to: 

•  Identify  actions  to  build  and  support  coherent,  standards-based  instructional 
programs  for  all  students,  based  on  the  most  recent  SBE  adoptions  in  English- 
Language  Arts  (ELA)  and  mathematics. 

•  Identify  polices  for  placing  ELs  in  ELD  classes  as  well  as  policies  for  exit  from 
ELD.  ' 

•  Document  delivery  strategies  that  render  content  comprehensible  to  students 
learning  English. 

•  Ensure  collaboration  among  general  education  and  special  education  teachers  by 
grade  level  or  program. 

•  Address  the  fundamental  learning  needs  of  high  priority  students. 

•  Document  uniform  use  or  development  of  diagnostic  and  placement  tests  to  identify 
students  requiring  strategic  or  intensive  intervention  in  English/reading/language 
arts  and  mathematics,  and  placement  in  appropriate  intervention  classes. 

•  Document  presence  of,  or  plans  to  provide  SBE  adopted  intervention  programs, 
offered  as  separate,  extended-period  classes,  for  all  students  requiring  intensive 
intervention  in  English/reading/language  arts  and  /or  mathematics. 

•  Document  presence  of,  or  plans  to  provide,  transitional  and  support  classes  for 
students  requiring  strategic  intervention  in  English/reading/language  arts  and/or 
mathematics. 

For  PI  districts  that  must  contract  with  an  outside  provider,  the  SBE  only  certifies  high-quality 
expert  teams  with  successful  track  records. 

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Since  the  2005-06  school  year,  all  students,  excluding  students  with  disabilities,  who  seek  a 
public  high  school  diploma  must  pass  the  California  High  School  Exit  Exam  (CAHSEE).  The 
test  exemption  for  students  with  disabilities  ended  with  the  class  of  2007  and,  unless  further 
action  is  taken  quickly,  students  with  disabilities  will  not  be  exempted  from  passing  both  parts  of 
the  exam  as  a  requirement  for  graduation. 

12.  There  has  been  extensive  discussion  on  options  for  students  with  disabilities  who  are 
unable  to  pass  the  exit  exam.  Currently,  there  are  legislative  proposals  addressing  the 
issue.  However,  in  the  meantime  many  students  with  disabilities  in  the  class  of  2008  are 
left  in  limbo.  What  course  of  action  would  you  recommend  for  those  students,  and  what 
course  of  action  would  you  propose  as  a  long-term  solution? 

Short  tern  actions  for  students  with  disabilities  who  are  unable  to  pass  the  CAHSEE  must 
include: 

•  Streamlining  the  local  waiver  process.  CAHSEE  results  (July  2007-March  2008 
data)  indicate  that  approximately  one-third  of  students  with  disabilities  who  use  a 
modification  would  meet  the  CAHSEE  requirement.  As  many  as  10,883  students 
(32.5%)  passed  the  English/Language  Arts  portion  using  modifications  and  20,168 
students  (33.2%)  passed  the  Math  portion  using  modifications. 

•  More  outreach  to  inform  parents  of  their  right  for  modifications  and  request  for 
local  waiver. 

•  Clear  instructions  to  districts  and  schools  to  ensure  that  students  with  disabilities 
who  qualify  for  testing  with  modification  are  given  that  opportunity. 

•  Regional  technical  assistance  to  schools  and  districts  that  need  training  on  how  to 
administer  the  CAHSEE  with  modifications. 

•  Availability  to  schools  and  districts  of  universal  access  materials  including  assistive 
technology  (e.g.,  large  print  testing  materials,  audio  items,  etc.). 

Longer  term  solutions  should  include: 

•  A  statistically-based  forecast  system  that  triggers  "early  warning"  of  elementary 
or  middle  school  students  whop  will  be  at  risk  of  failing  the  CAHSEE. 

•  Increased  flexibility  for  districts  related  to  the  use  of  current  supplemental  funds. 

•  Additional  tutoring  funds  for  elementary  and  middle  school  students  who  are 
identified  as  at  risk  of  low  performance  on  the  CAHSEE.  Consideration  should 
be  given  to  how  these  additional  funds  could  be  aligned  with  NCLB  supplemental 
service  funds  for  tutoring  students  at  schools  that  repeatedly  fail  to  make  AYP. 

•  Rigorous  statewide  studies  of  the  effects  of  AB128  and  AB347  funding  on 
outcomes  for  seniors  and  post-senior-year  students,  including  an  analysis  of  what 
fraction  of  seniors  denied  diplomas  agree  to  re-enroll  for  one  or  two  more  years  as 
envisaged  under  AB347. 

•  An  evaluation  of  math  and  EL  A  intervention  programs  targeted  at  students  at  risk 
of  failing  the  CAHSEE,  including  whether  the  effectiveness  of  such  interventions 
depends  on  the  grade  and  geographic  variation. 

•  Adoption  of  the  most  successful  interventions,  statewide. 

13.  Federal  law  requires  an  alternative  assessment  be  provided  for  students  with  disabilities 
but  the  Board  has  never  authorized  an  alternative.  The  Board's  response  has  been  to 

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allow  local  districts  to  seek  a  waiver  from  the  test  for  affected  students.  How  should  the 
Board  accommodate  students  who  wish  to  take  the  test  rather  than  waive  the  testing 
requirement?  Should  an  alternative  assessment  be  developed  for  them? 

Last  year,  the  SBE  approved  of  the  California  Modified  Assessment  (CMA)  for  students 
with  disabilities.  The  assessment  was  available  in  the  elementary  grades  in  spring,  2008. 
CMA  blue  prints  for  middle  and  high  school,  including  Algebra  I  and  Grade  10  Science 
were  also  adopted  with  pilot  testing  and  implementation  scheduled  within  two  years.  For 
students  with  disabilities  who  do  not  choose  to  be  tested  with  modifications  and/or  request 
for  local  waiver,  the  SBE  should  do  the  following: 

•  Provide  better  outreach  information  to  parents  regarding  the  availability  of  CMA 
(participation  in  the  CMA  spring  2008  administration  was  low). 

•  Provide  more  frequent  CMA  administration  training  to  schools  and  school  districts 
(many  school  districts  did  not  choose  to  offer  the  opportunities  to  eligible  students 
in  spring  2008  due  to  lack  of  readiness). 

•  Expedite  the  implementation  of  CMA  at  the  secondary  level. 

•  Consider  some  form  of  alignment  of  CMA  to  CAHSEE. 

If  the  legislature  authorizes  the  formation  of  a  Special  Education  and  CAHSEE  Task 
Force  to  do  a  comprehensive  examination  of  this  issue,  the  SBE  should  work  in 
partnership  with  this  Task  Force  to  adopt  effective  and  realistic  policies  as  soon  as 
possible. 


English  Learners 

The  California  Department  of  Education  reports  that  approximately  25  percent  of  California's  K- 
12  students — about  1.6  million — are  English  learners.  They  perform  at  substantially  lower  levels 
on  standardized  tests  than  English-proficient  students.  Test  results  from  the  high  school  exit 
exam  for  first-time  test  takers  in  the  class  of  2009  (in  grade  1 0)  indicate  that  English  learners 
performed  an  estimated  41  percent  lower  than  the  state's  overall  passing  rate  on  the  English- 
language  arts  exam,  and  29  percent  lower  than  the  state's  passing  rate  on  the  mathematics  exam. 

1 4.    Concerns  have  been  raised  that  the  state 's  Reading  Language  Arts  and  English 

Language  Development  framework  is  not  designed  in  a  manner  to  ensure  that  a  student 
will  achieve  sufficient  proficiency  in  English  to  meet  academic  standards  and  pass 
CAHSEE.  How  do  you  respond  to  this  criticism?  What,  if  any,  changes  would  you 
recommend  to  ensure  each  student  has  the  instructional  materials  necessary  to  attain 
reading  and  English  proficiency? 

We  serve  approximately  800  English  learners  at  Vaughn  and  I  do  agree  that  the  current 
adopted  English  Language  Arts  materials  are  not  adequate  in  serving  the  needs  of  English 
learners  (ELs).  We  have  been  spending  a  great  deal  of  resources  in  the  purchase  of 
supplemental  materials;  teachers  of  English  learners  are  having  a  difficult  time  juggling 
between  two  programs  within  a  tightly  scheduled  day. 

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The  Reading/Language  Arts  (R/LA)  Framework  and  the  criteria  for  adoption  of  K- 8th  R/LA 
instructional  materials,  as  revised  September  2007,  provide  attention  to  the  achievement  of 
state  standards  for  ELs  as  well  as  other  students.  The  new  English  Language  Arts 
Framework  includes  a  set  of  extensive  criteria  for  five  program  options.  I  believe  that 
Option  2  will  meet  our  needs  as  it  requires  an  integration  of  materials  that  simultaneously 
meet  the  English  Language  Arts  standards  and  the  English  Language  Development 
standards.  English  learners  must  have  access  to  learning  opportunities  that  address  grade 
level  English  Language  Arts  standards  while  firmly  mastering  the  English  Language 
Development  status  at  individual  levels. 

The  main  goal  for  ELs  is  to  achieve  English  proficiency  in  the  elementary  grades  and  be 
reclassified  as  Reclassified  Fluent  English  Proficient  (RFEP).  These  RFEP  students  do  just 
as  well  as,  and,  in  some  cases,  even  better  than  non-EL  students  on  every  state  standardized 
Test  including  the  CAHSEE  (reported  by  the  Human  Resources  Research  Organization). 

This  summer,  the  Curriculum  Commission  and  the  Instructional  Materials  Assessment 
Panel  will  meet  to  review  submitted  materials.  Some  of  my  teachers  have  seen  a  few 
distributed  samples  of  the  Option  2  program  and  are  very  excited  that  they  finally  will  have 
"ready  to  go"  instructional  materials  for  the  English  learners.  The  newly  appointed  English 
Learners  Advisory  Committee  will  add  their  expertise  in  the  program  adoption  and 
implementation  process. 

The  new  mathematics  adoption  also  addresses  universal  access.  In  addition,  California  has 
also  invested  in  supplemental  programs  and  professional  development  for  educators 
targeted  to  meet  the  needs  of  ELs  (AB  472).  The  SBE  should  continue  to  monitor  the 
implementation  of  the  newly  adopted  materials  and  professional  development  programs  to 
assure  that  the  needs  of  ELs  are  being  met. 

15.    Should  the  board  take  any  actions  specific  to  English  learners  in  an  effort  to  narrow  the 
achievement  gap? 

Yes,  the  SBE  must  take  actions.  Being  an  English  learner  should  not  be  a  life  sentence.  I 
have  first  hand  experience  as  an  English  learner  which  includes  experiences  as  an  English 
learner  when  I  arrived  the  U.S.  at  an  age  of  17,  then  as  a  certified  bilingual  teacher  in  Los 
Angeles  (Spanish  and  Chinese),  and  as  a  school  principal  serving  a  large  number  of  English 
learners  for  more  than  25  years. 

As  many  as  1.5  million  of  California's  6.3  million  K-12  students  have  been  identified  as 
ELs;  thus  the  SBE  must  take  multiple  actions  specific  to  English  learners  in  an  effort  to 
narrow  the  achievement  gap.  These  actions  should  include  the  following: 

•  Phase  in  the  ELA  curriculum  adopted  in  2008  by  fall  20 1 0. 

•  Document  steps  to  provide  and  monitor  the  completion  of  SB  472  English  Learner 
Professional  Development  (ELPD)  for  all  teachers  of  English  learners  by  fall  2010. 

•  Update  the  AB  430  professional  development  training  program  for  administrator  to 
include  intensive  focus  on  ELs;  work  with  PI  districts  to  assure  that  all  school-based 
administrators  receive  the  training. 

•  Establish  clear  reclassification  criteria  applicable  to  all  districts 

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o    Consider  the  use  of  CELDT  scores  alone  to  determine  proficiency  (not 

Proficient  in  CST  scores)  thus  tripling  reclassification  rate 
o    Assure  that  linguistic  tracking  would  not  limit  education  choices,  access  to 

quality  academic  programs  and  opportunity  to  advance. 
o    Support  the  proposed  change  related  to  federal  funding  for  EL  to  assure  that 

reclassification  would  not  be  a  disincentive  due  to  funding  loss. 
o    Disseminate  best  practices  and  examples  of  schools  and  school  districts  that 

have  successfully  reclassified  ELs  (e.g.  Long  Beach  Unified-22%,  Corona- 

Norco  Unified-  16%,  statewide-  only  9.2%). 
o    Target  2nd-5th  grade  as  the  optimal  zone  for  reclassification 

1 6.   SBE  recently  reestablished  the  English  Learners  Advisory  Committee  (ELAC).  What  role 
will  ELAC  play  in  deciding  board  policy?  What  is  the  goal  of  the  committee?  Will  you  be 
involved  with  ELAC?  If  so,  how? 

It  is  essential  that  the  SBE  revives  the  ELAC  after  years  of  inactivity.  The  SBE  seeks  the 
specific  instructional  and  assessment  advice  from  educators  with  experience  serving  the 
needs  of  English  Learners  (ELs).  The  SBE  is  additionally  interested  in  a  wide  variety  of 
state  and  federal  policies,  funding  sources,  and  activities  that  could  be  better  focused  to 
meet  the  needs  of  ELS.  In  re-establishing  the  ELAC  the  SBE  seeks  the  advice  of  a  group  of 
parents,  educators  and  community  members  who  have  demonstrated  knowledge  regarding 
the  educational  needs  of  English  learners.  Advice  from  the  ELAC  may  include  the 
following  topics: 

How  can  the  SBE  be  most  influential  in  helping  ELs  to  overcome  language  barriers 

quickly  and  to  achieve  academically  at  levels  consistent  with  other  students? 

How  can  the  SBE  work  effectively  with  stakeholders  to  provide  high  quality 

educational  services  to  ELs? 

What  does  current  data  tell  us  about  the  academic  achievement  of  students?  Does 

the  SBE  have  the  most  comprehensive  data  we  need  to  make  decisions  about  ELs? 

What  type  of  additional  data  could  be  helpful? 

How  might  the  SBE  more  clearly  focus  state  and  local  funds  on  the  academic 

achievement  needs  of  ELs? 

How  can  the  SBE  achieve  a  better  understanding  of  educational  programs  that  have 

been  successful  for  ELs? 

Should  the  state  encourage  and/or  fund  local  school  districts  to  offer  each  student 

the  opportunity  to  learn  a  language  other  than  English  in  elementary  school  in  once 

the  student  is  deemed  to  be  fluent-English  proficient  or  otherwise  in  compliance 

with  applicable  state  law? 

In  addition  to  the  basic  instructional  program  materials  adopted  by  the  SBE,  should 

it  review  supplemental  instructional  materials,  which  may  be  of  specific  assistance 

to  specific  language  groups?  Have  the  SBE-approved  supplemental  materials  been 

effective  for  helping  students  learn  English?  Do  we  have  sufficient  data  to  answer 

this  question? 

Is  primary  language  support  needed  for  some  students  and  parents  to  help  some  ELs 

in  their  pursuit  of  ELD  and  fluent-English  proficient  status? 


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All  SBE  members  will  be  engaged  in  the  work  of  the  EL  AC.  Though  I'm  not  the  SBE 
liaison  to  this  Committee,  I  will  be  actively  engaged  in  the  deliberation  of  the 
Committee's  recommendations  and  the  adoption  of  policies  initiated  by  the 
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Senate  Rules  Committee 
December  9,  2008 


Roles  and  Responsibilities 

Question  #1  Roles  &  Responsibilities:  To  what  extent  do  you  believe  you  have 
accomplished  your  goals  (workplace  environment  fostering  efficiency,  teamwork,  and 
professionalism)? 

Response  to  Question  #1: 

The  best  indicator  of  fostering  efficiency,  teamwork,  and  professionalism  are  the 
overall  results  of  the  Appeals  Board;  we  have  eliminated  the  backlog  of  approximately 
3, 752  appeals  since  my  appointment  in  November  2004.  In  order  to  accomplish  this  the 
Administrative  staff,  the  Legal  Staff,  and  the  Administrative  Law  Judges  ("AUs  ")  have 
assisted  in  redesigning  and  streamlining  Appeals  Board  processes,  forms,  and 
regulations. 

For  instance,  the  Administrative  staff  implemented  and  refined  the  Appeals  Board 
processing  of  appeals  filing  so  that  we  could  dismiss  incomplete  appeals  in  15  days 
instead  of  90  days.  Their  suggestions  led  to  revisions  of  our  appeals  form  and  intent  to 
appeal  letters. 

The  Legal  staff  recommended  changes  that  were  adopted,  in  the  processing  of 
Petitions  for  Reconsideration  so   that  we   could  answer  petitions  more   effectively, 
efficiently,  and  professionally. 

The  ALJs  asked  for  and  designed  streamlined  Orders  and  we  implemented  their 
suggestions  resulting  in  an  increased  number  of  resolutions  that  eliminated  the  backlog. 
They  also  asked  for,  and  received,  the  flexibility  to  cover  hearings  for  each  other  and 
manage  each  case  as  they  desire.  Because  of  our  people  we  have  created  a  working 
environment  that  fosters  teamwork,  efficiency,  and  a  very  positive  work  environment. 


Question  2:  Roles  &  Responsibilities 

What  do  you  hope  to  accomplish  in  your  second  term?  How  will  you  measure 
your  success? 

Response  to  Question  2 

In  my  second  term,  our  goal  is  provide  excellent  customer  service  to  both  internal 
and  external  customers,  expand  and  improve  the  Board 's  use  of  information  technology, 

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further  refine  our  processes  and  procedures,  and  keep  pace  with  incoming  appeals  so  as 
not  to  create  a  backlog  once  again. 

For  the  first  time  in  Appeals  Board  history,  we  will  convene  an  Advisory 
Committee  that  will  include  representation  from  all  interested  parties  to  elicit 
recommendations  on  improving  our  processes  and  procedures. 

We  will  devise  and  implement  a  Customer  Satisfaction  Survey  to  measure  the 
effectiveness  of  process  and  procedure  refinements  made  as  a  result  of  Advisory 
Committee  suggestions.    We  will  also  conduct  an  internal  Customer  Satisfaction  Survey 
so  that  we  can  listen  and  learn  from  our  people  and  continue  to  improve  our  employee 
satisfaction. 

The  Appeal 's  Board  will  continue  to  request  funding  for  information  technology 
upgrades  such  as  digital  hearing  recording  equipment  and  an  automated  call  answering 
system.  Our  success  will  be  measured  by  the  acquisition  of  these  two  upgrades  at  a 
minimum. 

In  order  to  ensure  that  the  Appeal 's  Board  processes  incoming  appeals  without 
creating  a  backlog  we  will  continue  to  track  the  quality  and  performance  of  all  employees 
and  provide  feedback  on  job  performance  on  a  monthly  basis. 


Question  3;  Roles  &  Responsibilities 

What  do  you  view  as  the  exclusive  role  of  the  Chairperson  of  the  Board,  and  what 
responsibilities  are  those  of  the  Board  as  a  whole? 

Response  to  Question  3 

I  believe  there  are  two  distinctions.   The  Chairperson  of  the  Board  ("Chair  ")  is 
charged,  under  (Labor  Code  Section  148.2)  with  the  responsibility  to  supervise  all 
personnel  employed  by  the  Board.  This  general  delegation  of  supervisorial  authority 
places  in  the  Chair  the  overall  responsibility  to  ensure  that  the  Board  functions  efficiently 
in  terms  of  its  day-to-day  operations  and  that  the  Board  conforms  to  a  variety  of 
personnel  regulations  including  civil  service  rules  and  regulations  and  regulations  of  the 
Department  of  Personnel  Administration. 

There  is  also  a  more  commonly  accepted  notion  of  what  a  Chairperson  does,  and 
that  is  someone  who  functions  as  a  "presiding  officer  of  a  meeting  or  an  organization  or 
committee  "  (Webster 's  Collegiate  Dictionary:  Tenth  Edition.)  In  this  sense  the 
Chairperson 's  function  is  to  make  sure  that  the  Board's  business  handled  in  an  efficient 
manner  with  the  ultimate  objective  of  fulfilling  its  statutory  mission  to  serve  the  public  by 
hearing  and  determining  appeals  and  to  determine  all  other  matters  under  the  Board 's 
jurisdiction  in  a  timely  manner.  I  believe  that  it  is  the  Chairperson  s  responsibility  to 
promote  efficiency  by  promoting  procedures  that  eliminate  the  backlog  and  remove  any 
unnecessarily  cumbersome  processes  that  serve  as  a  roadblock  to  the  processing  of  files 
and  appeals. 

The  Appeals  Board  is  a  small  agency.   The  Board  members  and  the  Executive 
Officer  are  the  only  managers.   There  are  only  3  supervisors.   Since  any  meeting  of  two 


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of  the  three  members  may  have  implications  under  the  public  meeting  laws,  it  falls  upon 
the  Chairperson  to  meet  with  staff,  get  feedback,  and  communicate  policy. 

Finally,  the  role  of  the  Chairperson  of  this  small  agency  is  to  be  a  team  leader, 
role  model,  and  pacesetter.  To  that  end  I  have  monthly  meetings  with  staff,  gather  and 
share  data  to  apprise  all  staff  of  how  they  're  doing,  roll  my  sleeves  up  and  work  in  the 
"trenches  "  with  them  regularly. 


The  Appeals  Process 

Question  4;  The  Appeals  Process 

What  issues  prompt  you  to  reconsider  an  ALJ  decision? 
Response  to  Question  #4 

At  the  outset,  it  should  be  noted  that  if  the  Board  votes  to  reconsider  a  Decision 
or  Order  of  one  of  its  Administrative  Law  Judges  it  does  not  mean  the  Decision  or  Order 
will  be  reversed.  It  simply  means  the  Decision  or  Order  will  not  automatically  become 
final.  Instead,  the  Board  will  have  time  to  independently  review  the  evidentiary  record 
and  the  law  and  then  either,  adopt,  reverse,  or  modify  the  Decision  or  Order  of  the  ALJ. 

That  said,  each  party  to  an  Appeals  Board  proceeding  has  30  days  to  request 
reconsideration  of  a  Decision  or  Order.  The  parties  can  petition  based  on  the  following 
grounds  as  set  forth  in  Section  390.1  of  the  Board's  regulations: 

1 .  That  by  the  Decision  or  Order  the  Board  acted  without  or  in  excess  of  its  powers; 

2.  That  the  Decision  or  Order  was  procured  by  fraud; 

3 .  That  the  evidence  received  by  the  Board  does  not  justify  the  findings  of  fact; 

4.  That  petitioner  has  discovered  new  material  evidence  that  petitioner  could  not, 
with  reasonable  diligence,  have  discovered  and  produced  at  hearing; 

5.  That  the  findings  of  fact  do  not  support  the  Decision  or  Order 

If  the  parties  raised  such  grounds,  I  would  be  prompted  to  reconsider  the 
Decision  or  Order.  As  noted  above,  that  does  not  mean  I  would  be  voting  to  change  the 
ALJ  Decision  or  Order.  It  would  only  mean  that  grounds  had  been  raised  that  require 
the  Board  itself  to  take  a  look  at  it. 

The  Board  itself  also  has  a  30  day  period  in  which  to,  on  its  own  action,  seek 
reconsideration.  (8  Cal.  Code  Regs.,  Section  390.2)  There  might  be  a  number  of  reasons 
to  reconsider  a  Decision  or  Order.  Principal  among  these  are  cases  in  which  the  ALJ 
did  not  properly  interpret  and  apply  safety  orders,  statutes,  or  Appeals  Board  precedents. 
Also,  though  ALJ  Decisions  are  the  law  of  the  case  they  decide  only,  they  have  no 
precedential  effect.  IfAUs  are  interpreting  the  same  safety  order  differently,  the  Board 
may  wish  to  clarify  the  meaning  of  the  safety  order  by  reconsidering  an  appropriate  case 


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and  issuing  a  precedential  decision  itself.  Whether  or  not  the  parties  are  dissatisfied  with 
the  decision,  it  is  incumbent  upon  the  Board  to  resolve  such  disputes. 

In  short,  my  decision  to  vote  to  reconsider  is  made  upon  the  same  grounds  for 
each  case.  Is  there  a  need  to  clarify  existing  precedent?  Does  the  decision  deviate  from 
existing  precedent,  or  did  the  AU misinterpret  or  misapply  law  or  regulation?  Is  there 
insufficient  evidence  to  support  the  AU's  decision?  Would  reconsideration  of  this 
particular  decision  possibly  result  in  a  clarification  of  the  law  for  the  Division  and  the 
Employer  community  and  will  such  clarification  enhance  employee  safety. 


Question  5;  The  Appeals  Process 

OSHAB  has  proposed  eliminating  appeal  hearings  in  DOSH  offices  and  requiring 
employers  and  DOSH  personnel  to  attend  hearings  in  either  Sacramento  or  Southern 
California.  Please  explain  the  reasoning  behind  this  proposal  and  how  it  may  impact  the 
ability  of  both  employers  and  witnesses  to  appear  and  testify  at  hearings. 

Response  to  Question  #5 

The  question  poses  three  different  issues.  First,  the  Appeals  Board,  or  OSHAB, 
has  not  proposed  eliminating  appeal  hearings  statewide  in  local  Cal/OSHA  offices  and 
requiring  employers  and  DOSH  personnel  to  attend  hearings  in  either  Sacramento  or 
Southern  California.   (It  was  suggested  during  budget  cuts  that  the  Board  should  limit 
hearing  locations  to  two.)  Rather,  the  Appeals  Board  has  consolidated  hearing  locations 
to  four  (4)  locations  in  Southern  California  (San  Diego,  Santa  Ana,  Van  Nuys,  and  West 
Covina)  and  three  (3)  locations  in  Northern  California  (Oakland,  Sacramento,  and 
Stockton). 

The  second  issue  involves  the  Board  s  imperative  to  maintain  neutrality,  which 
impression  is  easily  lost  when  all  hearings  are  scheduled  within  established  Cal/OSHA 
enforcement  offices,  a  practice  that  was  common  throughout  the  early  years  of  the 
program.  The  Board's  precedential  decisions  recognize  the  importance  of  maintaining 
that  actual  and  perceived  neutrality,  as  noted  below. 

"The  Legislature  specifically  established  the  Appeals  Board  as  an  independent 
adjudicator  in  order  to  avoid  actual  or  presumed  neutrality.  "  The  Legislature  modeled 
the  independent  Appeals  Board  after  the  adjudicatory  panel  in  the  federal  Occupational 
Safety  and  Health  Act  (the  Occupational  Safety  and  Health  Review  Commission). 
Senator  Jacob  Javits  proposed  this  "separation  of  powers  "  arrangement  in  an 
amendment  to  the  original  OSHA  bill.   (See  Legislative  History  of  the  Occupational 
Safety  and  Health  Act  of  1970,  92nd  Cong,  1st  Sess.  (Comm.  Print  1971).")  Supertron 
Corporation,  Cal/OSHA  App.  91-675,  DAR  (May  21,  1992)  "The  relationship  between 
the  Board  as  an  independent  adjudicatory  agency  and  the  Division  as  a  prosecutorial 
agency  is,  respectively  [required  to  be]  observed].  "  Kenko,  Inc.,  Cal/OSHA  App.  00-6" 2 
through  674,  DAR  (Oct.  16,  2002),  citing  Alfred  Annino/ Alfredo  Annino  Construction  of 
Nevada,  Cal/OSHA  App.  98-311,  DAR  (April  25,  2001);  and Naco  Industries,  Inc., 
Cal/OSHA  App.  95-3175,  DAR  (August  10,  1999). 


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Therefore,  to  the  extent  feasible,  the  Board  recognizes  the  need  to  hold  hearings  at 
neutral  locations  such  as  State  Building  facilities  where  they  may  exist,  or  Appeals  Board 
hearing  rooms. 

The  third  issue  concerns  the  number  of  locations  throughout  California  that  the 
Board  can  feasibly  conduct  hearings  with  its  current  staff  taking  into  consideration  the 
period  of  time  that  appeals  must  be  processed  by  Federal  guidelines  (ten  months),  the 
number  of  appeals  filed  per  year,  and  the  size  of  any  backlog.   There  are  currently  more 
appeals,  higher  monetary  fines,  more  complex  cases,  and  the  existing  staff  cannot 
practicably  schedule  hearings  in  the  same  number  of  locations  as  was  originally  the  case 
without  re-creating  and  building  a  large  backlog,  and  increasing  the  age  of  cases 
awaiting  adjudication. 

To  summarize,  the  scheduling  and  number  of  hearing  locations,  while  continually 
undergoing  review  for  efficiency  and  fairness,  accommodates  the  interests  of  fairness  and 
prompt  and  efficient  adjudication,  while  seeking  to  minimize  those  instances  where 
parties  and  witnesses  may  be  unconvinced. 


Question  6;  The  Appeals  Process 

Please  provide  the  following  information  for  the  last  five  years:  number  of  appeals 
hearings  conducted  by  ALJs,  the  number  of  Petitions  for  Reconsideration  filed,  the 
number  of  ALJ  decisions  the  Board  has  independently  chosen  to  reconsider. 

Response  to  Question  #6 

2004  2005  2006  2007  2008 

j  of  Hearings                          49  92  176  158  122* 

Petitions  for  Recon                30  48  51  98  122* 

Board  Ordered  Recon           2  15  5  20  4* 

Disposition  of  Cases  IS        9D       2D       5D       3P 

S  =  Settled  IP       2P        IP       7P        1R 

D  =  DAR  Issued  4R       2R       8R 

P  =  Pending 

R  =  Remanded 

*  =  Through  November 

Question  7;  The  Appeals  Process 

The  Labor  appointee  position  to  the  Board  is  currently  vacant  and  has  -been  since  at  least 
January  2007.  What  effect  has  this  had  on  the  Board's  ability  to  resolve  appeals 


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efficiently  and  provide  workplace  safety  and  health  guidance  to  the  public  in  a  timely 
manner?  If  the  purpose  of  designated  slots  is  to  bring  specific  perspectives  to  the  Board, 
how  is  the  perspective  of  Labor  included? 

Response  to  Question  #7 

The  Labor  Appointee  left  the  Appeals  Board  at  the  end  of  March  2007;  since  that 
time  the  Governor  has  not  appointed  a  person  to  that  "slot ".   The  vacancy  has  not  had 
an  effect  on  the  Board's  ability  to  efficiently  resolve  appeals  and  provide  guidance  to  the 
public  in  a  timely  manner.  In  fact,  the  Appeals  Board  has  increased  the  number  of 
appeals  resolved  every  year  beginning  in  2004.    The  trend  had  gone  from  3656  in  04, 
4373  in  05,  5621  in  06,  7075  in  07,  and  6273  through  November  08. 

However,  the  absence  does  cause  the  Board  to  draw  on  its  own  labor  experience 
and  supplement  that  with  staff  analysis  and  research  of  Legislative  History  and  technical 
literature.   Clearly,  the  Board  is  well  served  by  the  Labor  perspective,  tries  to  draw  upon 
its  own  experience  and  others;  but  that  is  no  substitute  for  filling  the  position. 

It  bears  noting  that  I  started  my  career  as  a  clerical  employee  represented  by  the 
Teamster  Union.  I  was  a  Teamster  for  9  years  and  learned  many  lessons  which  I  have 
carried  with  me  into  my  management  style. 
Question  8;  Calendaring 

Why  has  the  Board  moved  toward  the  policy  of  multiple  calendaring?  What  have  been 
the  unintended  effects  of  this  policy  on  employers  and  employee  witnesses  waiting  for 
their  appeal  hearing? 

Response  to  Question  #8 

The  Board  began  calendaring  more  than  one  hearing  a  day  per  AU  in  August  of 
2006,  in  order  to  eliminate  the  backlog  (3752  appeals),  reduce  the  amount  of  time 
between  the  alleged  violation  and  resolution,  speed-up  abatement  of  alleged  violative 
conditions.   The  practice  was  instituted  after  reviewing  court  practices,  practices  of  other 
adjudicatory  agencies,  and  in  response  to  a  federal  Complaint  Against  State  Plan 
Administration  (CASPA)  requiring  California  to  process  cases  more  quickly  or  loose  its 
ability  to  continue  as  a  State  Plan  State.  It  has  been  extremely  successful  in  reducing  the 
backlog  (now  300  appeals),  improving  the  time  to  process  cases  from  24  months  to  9 
months,  and  hastening  abatement. 

However,  there  is  a  down-side  to  calendaring  multiple  hearings  for  the  same  day 
with  one  AU.  Although  80-85%  of  Appeals  Board  cases  settle  prior  to  hearing  and  an 
additional  5%  at  the  hearing  there  have  been  a  few  occasions  where  more  than  one  case 
stays  on  calendar  for  an  ALJ.    When  this  happens  there  is  a  possibility  that  one  of  the 
hearings  will  be  continued  resulting  in  an  inconvenience  to  the  parties. 

The  Appeals  Board  tracked  and  recorded  information  on  the  number  of  cases 
calendared  and  the  number  resulting  in  Continuances  (inconvenience)  periodically.  In 
August  2006  (the  first  month  when  4  hearings  were  set  a  day  for  each  ALJ  there  were  273 


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cases  set  for  hearing  and  none  (0)  required  Continuances.  In  fact,  over  a  seven  month 
period  1105  cases  were  set  for  hearing  and  only  3  required  Continuances. 

Although  no  number  of  continued  hearings  is  desirable,  those  that  have  to  be  re- 
scheduled because  multiple  hearings  are  calendared  are  less  than  one  percent.   The 
Appeals  Board  believes  that  the  benefit  of  multiple  hearings  (reducing  the  backlog  and 
time  for  case  processing)  outweighs  the  inconvenience. 


Question  9;  Staff 

Have  you  deputized  Executive  Officer,  Michael  Wimberly,  to  vote  on  issues  pending 
before  the  Board  and  if  so,  under  what  circumstances  was  this  done? 

Response  to  Question  #9 

Executive  Officer,  Michael  Wimberly,  has  been  deputized  five  (5)  times  to  serve  as 
an  Appeals  Board  member  for  purposes  of  voting  on  Orders  or  Decisions. 

Date  Deputized  Reason  Type 

5-21-2008  Chair  Traeger:  absent  Full  Meeting 

9-08-2008  Chair  Traeger:  possible  conflict  of  interest  Orders  (2) 

8-20-2008  Chair  Traeger:  possible  conflict  of  interest  Decision 

10-01-2008  Member  Pacheco:  possible  conflict  of  interest  Decision 

10-01-2008  Chair  Traeger:  possible  conflict  of  interest  Decision 
Question  10;  Staff 

Is  there  currently  a  backlog  of  pending  appeals?  If  so,  have  you  requested  or  taken  steps 
to  increase  the  number  of  ALJs  or  find  additional  resources  to  assist  in  reducing  the 
backlog? 

Response  to  Question  #10 

There  is  currently  a  backlog  of  301  appeals  or  131  cases.   The  Board  requested 
additional  ALJs  and  though  it  was  denied  in  its  BCP  it  was  encouraged  to  work  with  the 
Division  on  fulfilling  its  staffing  needs.  As  a  result  the  Division  loaned  the  Board  two  (2) 
limited  term  ALJs  for  two  (2)  years.    We  also  converted  one  of  our  Legal  Staff  positions 
to  an  AU position.  Finally,  when  one  of  our  Presiding  Law  judges  retired  we  down 
graded  the  position  to  an  AU. 


Question  11;  Non-Reporting  Penalty 

Please  explain  how  the  Board  determines  and  sets  penalty  amounts  for  employer  failure 
to  report  workplace  accidents  to  DOSH. 


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Response  to  Question  #11 

In  July  of  2006,  the  Appeals  Board  issued  a  precedential  decision  directing  the 
ALJs  to  examine  the  facts  of  each  case  individually  and  to  determine  if  there  was  a 
violation  (of  the  section  342(a)  reporting  requirement)  and  to  establish  what  penalty, 
should  be  assessed.   (Labor  Code  §6602.)    The  decision  allowed  the  AUs  to  exercise 
discretion  in  fashioning  a  penalty  that  is  based  on  the  facts  of  each  case.  In  this  way, 
employers  who  technically  but  unintentionally  violate  the  requirement  are  not  treated  the 
same  as  those  employers  who  have  no  safety  programs  at  all,  do  not  enforce  safety 
programs,  and  have  a  history  of  safety  violations.  The  AU  is  required  to  fashion  a 
remedy  that  furthers  the  purposes  of  the  Act  and  promotes  and  encourages  workplace 
safety.   The  Board  members  review  ALJ  decisions  to  ensure  that  the  precedent  laid-  out 
in  Bill  Calloway  &  Greg  Lay  dba  Williams  Ready-Mix  is  followed. 


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ROBERT  DUTTON 

ALEX  FADILLA 


Senate  Rules  Committee 


DON  PERATA 

CHAIRMAN 


November  20,  2008 


Pamela  Giacomini 


Dear  Ms.  Giacomini: 

As  you  know,  the  Senate  Rules  Committee  will  conduct  a  confirmation  hearing  on  your 
appointment  as  a  member  of  the  Board  of  Forestry  and  Fire  Protection  on  January  7, 
2009.  We  request  that  you  appear.  The  meeting  will  begin  at  1:30  p.m.  in  Room  113  of 
the  State  Capitol. 

We  have  prepared  the  following  questions  to  which  we  would  appreciate  your  written 
responses.  Please  provide  your  responses  by  December  12,  2008. 

We  would  also  like  to  receive  an  updated  Form  700,  Statement  of  Economic  Interest,  by 
December  12,  2008. 

Statement  of  Goals 

1.  What  do  you  believe  you  have  accomplished  in  your  first  term  as  a  member  of  the 
Board  of  Forestry  and  Fire  Protection?  What  do  you  hope  to  accomplish  duhng 
your  next  term?  How  will  you  measure  your  success? 

2.  The  Board  of  Forestry  has  Five  public  members,  three  members  in  "forest  products 
industry"  slots,  and  one  member  in  a  "range-livestock  industry"  slot,  the  one  to 
which  you  are  appointed.  As  a  member  of  the  board,  whose  interests  do  you 
represent?  If  the  range-livestock  industry's  interests  are  at  odds  with  the  other 
interests,  what  do  you  do? 

3.  Your  board  has  few  staff  and  depends  on  the  Department  of  Forestry  for  its 
information.  What  staff  is  available  to  assist  you  with  your  often-complex  issues? 
How  are  you  able  to  regulate  an  entity  on  which  you  depend  for  information? 


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4.      The  board  sets  policy  for  the  Department  but  is  sometimes  not  included  in  policy 
decisions,  which  was  the  case  last  year  after  the  San  Diego  fires.  How  do  you 
determine  if  the  board  is  being  included  and  if  it's  not,  what  can  you  do? 


California  Fire  Plan 

The  Board  of  Forestry  and  Fire  Protection  is  responsible  for  developing  both  policy  and 
regulations  for  the  forestlands  and  fire  protection  system  of  the  state.  The  California  Fire 
Plan  is  the  state's  road  map  for  reducing  the  risk  of  wildfire.  The  plan  emphasizes  what 
needs  to  be  done  before  a  fire  starts.  The  plan  looks  to  reduce  firefighting  costs  and 
property  losses,  increase  firefighter  safety,  and  contribute  to  ecosystem  health.  The 
current  plan  was  finalized  in  March  1996. 

In  an  October  24,  2007,  letter  to  the  Governor,  the  board  said  it  would  begin  a  critical 
in-depth  review  of  the  California  Fire  Plan. 

A  September  2008  article  in  Ecosystems  by  a  senior  member  of  the  U.S.  Forest  Service 
concluded  that  forest  fires  in  the  Sierras  are  more  frequent  and  intense,  and  firefighting 
professionals  may  need  to  reassess  the  fire  suppression  methods  currently  used — quick 
suppression  attacks  with  the  goal  of  total  suppression. 

5.  How  often  is  the  California  Fire  Plan  reviewed  by  the  board? 

6.  What  is  the  timeline  for  the  board's  review?  Is  the  board,  as  a  whole,  reviewing  the 
plan,  or  is  this  review  assigned  to  one  of  the  board's  committees? 

7.  What  has  the  board  learned  in  its  review  of  how  forest  fires  are  fought?  Should 
some  fire  be  left  to  burn  ? 


Coho  Salmon  Protection 

Coho  salmon,  from  San  Francisco  to  the  Oregon  border,  have  experienced  a  significant 
decline  in  the  past  40  to  50  years.  According  to  a  study  done  for  the  National  Marine 
Fisheries  Service,  wild  populations  of  Coho  salmon  today  are  less  than  one  percent  of 
what  they  were  in  the  1 940s. 

In  1994  the  Department  of  Fish  and  Game  petitioned  the  Board  of  Forestry  and  Fire 
Protection  to  list  Coho  salmon  as  a  sensitive  species.  The  board  declined.  In  1996  the 
state  Fish  and  Game  Commission  listed  Coho  salmon  as  endangered  Then  in  1997  the 
federal  National  Marine  Fisheries  Service  listed  Coho  salmon  as  threatened. 


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The  timber  industry  is  interested  in  the  state's  Coho  salmon  listing  because,  under 
current  statutes,  if  a  timber  operation  might  kill  Coho  salmon,  the  timber  company  must 
first  obtain  an  incidental  take  permit  from  the  Department  of  Fish  and  Game. 

In  2000  the  board  amended  the  Forest  Practice  Rules  to  include  Protection  for 
Threatened  and  Impaired  Watersheds  regulations  to  enhance  protection  of  listed 
salmon  species.  These  regulations  were  adopted  in  2000  because  a  state  scientific 
review  panel  concluded  that  the  Forest  Practice  Rules  did  not  sufficiently  protect 
salmon.  The  Threatened  and  Impaired  Watersheds  rules  were  to  be  a  first  step  in 
increasing  salmon  protections.  That  is  the  only  step  that  has  been  taken  to  date.  These 
regulations  were  temporary  and  were  extended  in  2003,  2004,  2006,  and  2007.  They 
will  expire  December  31,  2008.  In  July  2006  the  Secretary  of  the  Resources  Agency 
called  on  the  board  and  the  Department  of  Fish  and  Game  to  develop  a  set  of 
comprehensive  rules  to  protect  and  restore  all  salmon  populations.  Since  2006  the 
discussions  of  the  board  have  moved  from  protection  of  all  salmon  populations  to 
discussion  on  rules  to  cover  only  those  streams  where  Coho  salmon  are  currently 
present. 

Earlier  this  year,  the  board  adopted  Coho  salmon  incidental-take  assistance  regulations. 
These  regulations  would  apply  additional  protections  where  Coho  salmon  are  present 
and  the  Department  of  Fish  and  Game  determines  that  Coho  will  likely  be  taken  by 
logging  actions.  The  Department  of  Fish  and  Game  provided  the  board  with  another  rule 
package  that  would  have  extended  protections  for  Coho  salmon  in  their  total  range,  but 
the  board  declined  to  adopt  that  package.  Despite  the  opinion  of  state  and  federal 
fisheries  biologists  that  Forest  Practice  Rules  did  not  adequately  protect  salmon,  the 
board  contracted  for  its  own  scientific  literature  review  to  see  if  additional  protections 
are  needed  for  salmon.  That  review  was  completed  earlier  this  fall,  and  it  is  not  yet  clear 
whether  that  review  will  result  in  changes  to  the  existing  rules. 

In  early  2008  several  environmental  groups  sued  the  board  alleging  the  board's  Coho 
protection  rules  were  inadequate.  These  groups  agreed  to  suspend  their  lawsuit  and 
instead  filed  an  emergency  petition  with  the  board  to  strengthen  the  existing  interim 
rules.  The  National  Marine  Fisheries  Service  supported  this  petition;  however,  the 
board,  which  included  your  "no"  vote,  rejected  the  petition.  It  is  now  likely  that  the  board 
will  not  have  a  chance  to  act  on  Coho  rules  until  2010. 

8.  What  is  your  view  of  the  challenges  in  adopting  permanent  regulations  to  protect 
Coho?  Why  are  there  still  no  permanent  regulations  in  place  after  so  many  years? 

9.  Please  explain  your  "no"  vote  two  months  ago  on  the  emergency  petition  for 
greater  Coho  salmon  protection.  What  factors  did  you  consider? 


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10.    Should  the  board  develop  timber  harvest  rules  that  protect  all  salmon  species,  or 
should  the  increased  protections  be  provided  for  only  Coho  salmon?  Please 
explain. 


Timber  Harvest  Reviews 

The  Department  of  Forestry  and  Fire  Protection  is  the  lead  agency  for  timber  harvest 
reviews  and  is  responsible  for  ensuring  the  sustainable  production  of  timber.  However, 
two  of  the  other  trustee  agencies — the  Department  of  Fish  and  Game  and  the  regional 
water  quality  control  boards — have  statutory  mandates  that,  on  occasion,  are  more 
protective  of  resources  and  more  restrictive  of  logging  activities.  Historically,  this  has 
created  a  conflict  between  the  agencies,  with  the  Department  of  Forestry  and  Fire 
Protection  often  resistant  to  incorporating  the  changes  requested  by  the  Department  of 
Fish  and  Game  or  regional  water  quality  control  boards. 

1 1.    How  does  the  board  work  with  the  Department  of  Forestry  and  Fire  Protection,  the 
Department  of  Fish  and  Game,  and  the  regional  water  boards  to  resolve  these 
conflicts?  How  do  you  as  a  board  member  monitor  the  degree  of  cooperation  that 
takes  place? 


Cumulative  Impacts  of  Timber  Harvesting 

Over  the  last  several  years,  governmental  and  scientific  reports  have  pointed  out  that 
the  timber  harvest  rules  do  not  adequately  address  the  cumulative  impacts  of  harvesting 
timber  which  is  the  potential  continuing  effects  of  prior  timber  harvesting. 

12.    Should  the  issue  of  cumulative  impacts  be  addressed  by  the  board?  If  so,  how? 

Please  direct  your  responses  to  Nettie  Sabelhaus,  Rules  Committee  Appointments 
Director,  Room  420,  State  Capitol,  Sacramento,  CA  95814. 


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Chair,  Senate  Rules  Committee  ' 

State  Capitol  Room  420 
Sacramento,  CA  95814-4900 

Dear  Senator  Perata: 

Thank  you  for  your  letter  of  November  20, 2008  regarding  the  confirmation  hearing  for  my 
second  term  on  the  Board  of  Forestry  and  Fire  Protection.  My  answers  to  your  thoughtful 
questions  are  below.  Before  I  get  to  that  though,  I  have  discussed  with  your  Appointments 
Director,  Nettie  Sabelhaus  the  conflict  in  my  calendar  for  the  date  set  for  my  hearing.  My 
husband  and  I  take  our  vacation  each  winter  when  our  ranching  obligations  allow  us  to  be  away, 
and  make  our  reservations  months  in  advance.  We  scheduled  and  paid  for  our  vacation  many 
months  ago  prior  to  getting  the  notice  for  this  confirmation  hearing.  1  take  full  responsibility  for 
not  contacting  Ms.  Sabelhaus  many  months  back  to  discuss  options  for  a  hearing. 

I  would  respectfully  request  that  you  grant  me  a  private  hearing  with  you  or  your  staff  in 
substitution  for  a  scheduled  full  Rules  Cornmittee  hearing.  Again,  I  accept  the  responsibility  for 
not  having  made  your  staff  aware  of  the  coming  conflict  months  ago. 

Responses  to  Questions 

1).        In  my  first  term  I  was  tasked  with  being  the  Chair  of  the  Resource  Protection  Cornmittee 
as  well  as  a  member  of  the  Management  Committee.  In  addition,  the  other  members  of  the  Board 
of  Forestry  and  Fire  Protection  elected  me  to  serve  as  the  Vice  Chair  of  the  Board.  In  the  absence 
of  our  Chair,  Stan  Dixon,  I  step  in  and  run  the  meetings.  At  first,  all  of  this  was  very 
overwhelming,  then  inspiring.  And  then  you  start  to  learn  and  understand  how  the  committee 
system  operates,  how  the  Board  operates  and  what  is  needed  to  get  work  done  to  benefit  the 
citizens  of  California.  I  wish  I  had  accomplished  more,  because  there  is  much  to  be  done.  That 
said,  I  have  initiated  a  full  review  of  the  vegetation  treatment  programs,  which  has  stalled  due  to 
budget  and  potentially  other  issues.  In  that  effort,  my  hope  is  to  understand  where  fuels  reduction 
work  is  being  done,  how  is  it  being  paid  for  and  how  effective  is  it?  In  a  separate  but  related 
action,  I  am  currently  reviewing  the  Administrative  DEIR  for  the  Vegetation  Treatment  Program. 
This  is  an  updated  EIR  that  will  set  targets  for  fuels  reduction  work,  not  just  with  fire,  but  by 

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herbivory  and  mechanical  means  as  well.  We  plan  to  have  our  Administrative  DEIR  review  and 
changes  completed  by  the  December  Resource  Protection  Committee  meeting.  The  DEIR  at  mat 
point  will  become  a  public  document  that  we  can  take  full  input  on  and  circulate  for  comments 
and  changes.  I  also  have  been  extremely  intense  on  our  work  on  the  Fire  Plan,  but  I  will  address 
those  issues  at  your  questions  5,  6  and  7  below.  We  also  continually  review  fire  safe  regulations, 
general  plan  updates  and  changes  for  counties  and  cities,  State  Responsibility  Area  boundaries, 
Very  High  Severity  Zone  mapping,  and  more.  As  a  member  of  the  Management  Committee,  1 
have  had  the  opportunity  to  review  and  help  guide  management  of  the  Demonstration  State 
Forests.  I  served  on  the  sub-committee  of  the  Board  with  David  Nawi  to  finalize  the  Jackson 
Demonstration  State  Forest  Management  Plan  and  DEIR.  We  learned  a  lot  through  that  process 
and  have  continued  to  schedule  reviews  and  updates  to  each  of  the  other  DSF's.  I  hope  to 
continue  to  accomplish  the  work  necessary  on  review  and  implementation  of  programs  and 
regulations  that  allow  all  stakeholders  to  work  together  to  be  more  efficient,  effective  and 
cooperative.  My  view  is  mat  each  perspective  is  important  and  that  by  listening  and  receiving 
input  and  guidance  from  all  stakeholders,  we  come  to  better  decisions  and  actions  that  benefit  the 
citizens  of  the  State  of  California.  To  measure  that,  I  will  look  to  our  finished  work  product.  And 
follow  with  questions  to  the  stakeholders  that  are  using  the  product  and  ask  if  it's  working.  If  the 
answer  is  yes,  we've  done  good  work.  If  it's  no,  then  we  need  to  revisit  our  actions  and  make 
adjustments. 

2).        I  am  proud  to  serve  as  the  range-livestock  industry  slot  on  the  Board  of  Forestry  and  Fire 
Protection.  I  believe  that  allows  me  to  bring  a  larger  rangeland  perspective  to  the  decisions  and 
actions  that  the  Board  takes.  We  often  as  individual  Board  members  do  not  always  agree.  That's 
part  of  a  function  of  a  good  make-up  to  a  Board.  When  we  have  disagreement,  I  always  try  to 
ensure  that  whatever  is  causing  the  dissention  is  answered  and  attempted  to  be  solved.  I've 
disagreed  with  public  members  and  I've  disagreed  with  forest  products  industry  members.  My 
main  attempt  is  to  always  find  the  best  solution  for  the  citizens  of  our  state.  That  is  what  always 
is  the  deciding  factor  for  me  in  making  a  decision  or  taking  a  vote. 

3).        Our  staff  is  incredible.  How  they  do  all  they  do,  sometimes  amazes  me.  I  think  that  we  as 
Board  members  try  to  make  sure  that  we  don't  burden  them  with  unnecessary  work,  but  work  in 
concert  as  a  team  to  get  our  work  accomplished.  We  do  rely  upon  the  Department's  staff  for 
information  on  a  regular  basis.  The  relationship  is  very  important  They  are  often  the  folks  that 
have  the  responsibility  for  implementing  policy  actions  that  we  as  a  Board  take.  But,  that  doesn't 
ever  stop  me  (or  other  Board  members)  from  asking  the  hard  questions.  Do  we  always  get  the 
answers  we  need.  No,  I'll  address  that  later  in  the  Fire  Plan  Review  component.  What  I  strive  to 
do  is  to  ensure  that  we  have  a  positive  working  and  professional  relationship.  We  have  several 
areas  where  Department  staff  may  have  implemented  something  in  a  different  manner  than  what 
the  Board  intended.  We  work  to  straighten  that  out  in  a  productive,  positive  manner.  It  is  our  role 
to  develop  policy,  have  the  Department  implement  it  correctly  and  do  the  oversight  to  ensure  that 
occurs. 

4).        There  is  Board  policy  and  there  is  Department  policy.  Sometimes  the  line  blurs  a  bit, 
especially  in  a  tense  situation  like  the  San  Diego  or  Angora  fires.  The  Board  was  not  included  in 
those  discussions  and  should  have  been.  What  do  we  do  about  it?  Have  the  discussion  with  the 


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Department,  with  Agency  and  with  the  Legislature.  It's  important  to  ensure  that  our  role  as 
policy  making  body  is  kept  intact  otherwise  our  oversight  abilities  are  at  risk. 

5).        As  you  know,  the  first  state  Fire  Plan  was  completed  in  1985.  with  the  latest  one  being 
adopted  in  1996.  So,  they  tend  to  have  a  life  of  10-12  years.  We  began  our  review  of  the  1 996 
Fire  Plan  over  two  years  ago,  with  input  from  the  Range  Management  Advisory  Committee  and 
a  special  committee  tasked  especially  with  a  thorough  review.  Their  work  products  came  then  to 
the  Resource  Protection  Committee  where  we  completed  a  lengthy  and  thorough  review  of  the 
1 996  Fire  Plan  in  the  spring  of  this  year.  We  had  much  public  input  and  discussion  on  the  review 
and  a  finalized  review  document  that  was  adopted  by  the  full  Board  in  May  2008. 

6).        What  we  learned  from  the  review  is  that  California  is  always  going  to  have  fire.  We  need 
to  work  to  make  the  state's  landscape  more  resilient  and  resistant  to  catastrophic  fire.  The  loss 
due  to  catastrophic  fire  is  horrendous.  We  must  look  at  our  entire  landscape  and  work  to 
accomplish  appropriate  fuels  reduction  work  and  fire  safe  clearing  around  structures  and  ensure 
that  building  standards  and  fire  safe  regulations  are  implemented.  Without  the  fuels  reduction 
work  to  create  a  more  resilient  landscape,  fires  will  continue  to  be  catastrophic  and  be  hard  to  put 
out.  If  we  get  ahead  of  the  curve  and  face  the  responsibility  for  fuels  reduction  work  head  on,  we 
can  create  the  landscape  whereby  fire  can  be  a  tool,  not  a  catastrophic  event.  Your  reference  to 
the  statement  by  a  senior  member  of  the  US  Forest  Service  is  heartening.  The  State  and  Federal 
agencies  tend  to  have  different  views  on  fire  management  This  is  a  challenge  that  we  are 
working  through  as  we  rewrite  the  new  Fire  Plan.  We  hope  to  have  the  new  Fire  Plan  adopted  by 
January  2010. 

7).        We  have  formed  a  Fire  Plan  Steering  Committee,  which  represents  a  broad  group  of 
stakeholders  in  order  to  ensure  we  have  all  of  the  key  components  addressed  as  we  develop  the 
Fire  Plan  that  will  guide  the  state's  strategy  and  vision  forthe  next  ten  years.  This  special 
committee  will  provide  input  to  the  Resource  Protection  Committee  and  the  final  plan  will  be 
adopted  by  the  Board.  All  of  these  processes  are  publicly  noticed  and  we  are  actively  seeking 
input  on  the  rewrite  of  the  Fire  Plan  for  the  future.  It  is  critical  in  the  new  Fire  Plan  to  have  a 
plan  that  is  strategic,  can  be  implemented  and  that  implementation  is  measurable.  We  must  be 
able  to  account  for  the  measures  to  learn  from  our  successes  and  failures  and  adapt  as  necessary. 

8).        The  challenge  to  adopting  permanent  regulations  to  benefit  coho  salmon  is  the  lack  of  the 
science.  This  apparently  has  been  a  continual  challenge  that  I  believe  the  Board  is  getting  a 
handle  on.  As  you  know,  we  formed  a  technical  advisory  committee  that  worked  with  a 
contractor  to  review  all  the  scientific  literature.  We  recently  had  a  presentation  and  then  a  board 
workshop  to  learn  about  what  the  science  has  taught  us.  I  believe  the  Forest  Practice  Committee 
is  currently  working  through  all  of  that  information  and  will  start  formulating  regulations  that  we 
are  hoping  can  be  adopted  on  a  permanent  basis. 

9).        As  you  know,  the  Board  worked  with  the  Department  (CalFire)  and  the  Department  of 
Fish  and  Game  at  the  request  of  the  Resources  Secretary  to  create  a  regulatory  package  to  benefit 
coho  that  took  about  a  year  of  public  meetings,  discussions,  changes  and  modifications.  We 


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adopted,  that  package  in  July  2007.  When  the  emergency  package  came  before  us,  the  request 
was  that  we  take  immediate  action  with  very  little  opportunity  for  public  input  or  modifications. 
My  immediate  question  to  both  departments;  John  McCammon  of  the  Department  of  Fish  and 
Game  and  Duane  Shintaku  of  CalFire  was;  "Are  the  current  regulations  that  we  have  in  place 
working?"  The  answer  back  was  a  resounding  "YES".  They  described  a  healthy  working 
relationship  of  review  team  members  on  the  ground  working  with  landowners  to  create  the  best 
solution  for  the  benefit  of  coho  salmon.  This  was  a  direct  result  of  the  package  that  we  had 
adopted  that  the  emergency  petition  wrould  completely  unravel.  That  is  why  I  voted  "No".  I  am 
fully  supportive  of  anyone  bringing  us  a  regulatory  package  that  we  can  vet  through  the  public 
process  and  get  the  best  package  possible  to  benefit  the  citizens  and  resources  of  California. 

10).      Possibly,  but  it  needs  to  be  done  thoughtfully  and  carefully  with  full  input.  The  challenge 
is  that  often  the  needs  of  salmonid  species  compete.  It's  critical  that  we  work  to  develop 
perfomance  based  rules  that  allow  the  result  like  we  got  out  of  the  coho  package  I  mentioned 
above.  We  want  the  teams  on  the  ground  to  find  the  solutions  that  work.  This  takes  cooperation 
and  cross  agency  coordination.  Blanket  prescriptive  rules  often  just  cost  money  and  don't  appear 
to  be  as  effective. 

II).      We  continually  reach  out  to  each  of  the  departments  that  serve  on  timber  harvest  review 
teams  in  order  to  identify  issues  that  we  can  help  solve  to  make  everyone's  work  more 
collaborative  and  effective.  For  example  the  Chair  and  Executive  Officer  are  meeting  regularly 
with  the  board  chairs  for  the  State  Water  Board  and  the  Central  and  North  Coast  Regional  Water 
Boards.  This  is  an  effort  to  ensure  that  our  departments  and  department  staff  work  cooperatively 
together.  Another  example  is  the  field  tour  the  Management  Committee  held  this  past  July  where 
we  pulled  together  field  review  staff  from  each  agency  in  order  to  discuss  issues  with  the 
Sustained  Yield  Plans  and  how  we  solve  those  issues  moving  forward.  In  order  to  monitor  that 
collaboration  I  simply  ask  agency  staff  and  landowners,  howr  is  it  going?  Are  there  issues  that  we 
need  to  help  solve?  Then  we  take  those  issues  back  to  the  appropriate  committee  and  make  sure 
that  everyone  is  around  the  table  to  discuss  and  find  a  solution. 

12).      There  is  no  doubt  that  timber  harvesting  practices  from  decades  far  past  had  an  affect  on 
our  watershed  resources.  How  that  continues  to  affect  our  current  resources  however  is  unclear. 
Practices  have  changed  dramatically  on  the  landscape  and  our  watersheds  are  cleaner,  and  are 
more  productive  than  they  have  ever  been.  How  we  balance  a  cumulative  effects  analysis  with 
those  factors  in  mind  is  truly  a  challenge.  We  need  to  have  an  appropriate  analysis  that  isn't  so 
costly  and  burdensome  that  landowners  choose  to  walk  away  from  owning  and  operating  our 
forested  landscapes  but  that  will  give  the  right  level  of  information  necessary  to  understand  the 
impact  the  actions  of  management  of  those  lands  is  having  on  our  resources.  The  key  problem  is 
the  requirement  from  CEQA  to  do  a  project  by  project  analysis,  making  the  potential  cost  of 
cumulative  effects  analysis  highly  prohibitive  and  questionable  as  to  its  utility. 

Thank  you  Senator,  for  your  consideration.  I  am  attaching  an  updated  Form  700  as  you 
requested.  I  have  also  included  an  updated  resume'  that  has  changed  a  bit  since  you  viewed  the 
last  one  in  2006. 


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perspectives  and  work  to  make  the  best  decision  possible  on  all  matters  for  the  benefit  of  the 
citizens  and  resources  of  California. 


Sincerely  yours, 

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Pamela  A.  Giacomini 


Sincerely  yours, 


Cc:       Mr.  George  Gentry,  EO 
Mr.  Stan  Dixon,  Chair 


Tkank  you  for  your  support  of  our  family  ranch,  enjoy  our -premium,  natural  beef  I! 


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ALICE     M.    DOW   DIN     CALVILLO,    Member,    Public 

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Em  ploy  m  ent    Relations    Board 

MARTIN     N.    HOSHINO,    Executive    Officer,    Board 

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of  Parole    Hearings 

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R.    KIRK     LINDSEY,    Member,    California 

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.    KIRK    LINDSEY,    Member,    California 

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estions    by    CHAIRMAN     STEINBERG     re: 

Reported    By:        INA    C.     LeBLANC 

Certified    Shorthand    Reporter 
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SB    375    compliance    2 

Timeline    3 

High-speed    rail    4 

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estions    by    SENATOR    OROPEZA    re: 

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Public-private    partnerships    for 

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toll   roads    5 

Fairness    of  toll   roads    re 

23 

individual's    economic    means    7 

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25 

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APPEARANCES 

2 

MEMBERS     PRESENT 

1 

Gender   of  com  m  ission    m  em  bers 

3 

SENATOR     DARRELL    STEINBERG,    Chair 

2 
3 

and    transportation    needs    of 

4 

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SENATOR     GIL     CEDILLO 
SENATOR     SAMUEL    AANESTAD 

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estions    by    SENATOR     DUTTON     re: 
Proposition     IB    8 

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SENATOR     ROBERT     DUTTON 

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Streamlining    the    process    11 

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SENATOR     JENNY     OROPEZA 

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sses    in    Suooort    of   ADDOintee: 
L    CURTIN,    California    Conference    of 

STAFF     PRESENT 

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MITH,    Public    and    Private    Transportation 

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M.    DOWDIN     CALVILLO,    Member,    Public 

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GREG     SCHMIDT,    Executive    Officer 

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Q  u 

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JANE    LEONARD    BROWN,    Committee    Assistant 

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estions    by    CHAIRMAN     STEINBERG    re: 

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NETTIE    SABELHAUS,    Appointments    Cons 

u  It  a  n  t 

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Approach    to    addressing    mixed-motive 

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DAN     SAVAGE,    Assistant    to    SENATOR     CED 
JULIE     NYSTROM,    Assistant    to     SENATOR     A 

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A  N  E  S  T  A  D 

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cases    39 

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Relevant   time    period    for    employee's 

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BILL     BAILEY,    Assistant    to     SENATOR     AANESTAD 
CHRIS     BURNS,    Assistant    to     SENATOR     DUTTON 

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negative    performance    42 

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Relevancy    of   timing    of   adverse 

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BRENDAN     HUGHES,    Assistant    to    SENATO 

R     OROPEZA 

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action    and    sequence    of  events    ....         4  4 

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W  eight    of  issues    in    retaliation 

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Basis    for   finding    of   retaliation..         47 

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Amalgamated  Transit  Union 48 

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Question  by  SENATOR  AANESTAD  re: 

Termination  as  a  result  of  a 

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Commissioner  confirmations  for 

technical  violation  50 

3 

2009  92 

Form  over  substance 52 

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Witnesses  in  SuDDOrt  of  MARTIN  N.  HOSHINO: 

Past  practice 54 

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DAVID  WARREN,  Taxpayers  for  Improving  Public 

Granting  union  leave 54 

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Safety 93 

Constructive  criticism  77 

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DONALD  MILLER,  Legal  consultant 94 

Question  by  SENATOR  OROPEZA  re: 

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Relevant  time  period  for  employee's 

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Vote-Only  Items  re  Confirmation  of: 

negative  performance 43 

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RICHARD  W.  FIGUEROA,  Member,  Managed  Risk  Medical 
Insurance  Board  99 

Qualifications  for  position 71 

Statement  by  SENATOR  AANESTAD 56 

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JOHN  P.  McGINNESS,  Member,  Commission  on  Peace 

Questions  by  SENATOR  CEDILLO  re: 

13 

Officer  Standards  and  Training  99 

Criteria  for  reversing  ruling  ....      58 

14 

GIL  VAN  ATTENHOVEN,  Member,  Commission  on  Peace 

Mistake  in  reversal 59 

15 

Officer  Standards  and  Training  99 

Reversals 62 

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JAMES  B.  HUSSEY,  Member,  State  Bar  Board 

Votes  reflective  of  policy 63 

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of  Governors 99 

Factors  for  termination  64 

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EDWARD  R.  OLSON,  Member,  California  Veterans 
Board  99 

Disparate  treatment  and 

termination  68 

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THOMAS  A.  RICHARDS,  Member,  California  Veterans 
Board  99 

Statement  by  SENATOR  DUTTON  76 

Closing  Statement  by  MS.  CALVILLO 78 

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CYNTHIA  L.  DELLUMS,  Member,  Commission  on  the 

Statement  by  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG  78 

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Status  of  Women  99 

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Witnesses  in  Opposition  to  ALICE  M.  DOWDIN  CALVILLO: 

1 

Proceedings  Adjourned  102 

DAVID  LOW,  California  School  Employees 

2 

Certificate  of  Reporter 103 

Association  22 

3 

APPENDIX  (Responses  of  Appointees)  104 

CAITLIN  VEGA,  California  Labor  Federation  ...      34 

4 

LIBBY  SANCHEZ,  Teamsters,  Machinists,  SCOPE, 

5 

Amalgamated  Transit  Union,  and  Local  21  35 

6 

MICHELLE  CASTRO,  Service  Employees 

7 

International  Union  36 

8 
9 

MICHAEL  BOLDEN,  American  Federation  of  State, 

County  and  Municipal  Employees 37 

10 

TED  TOPPIN,  Professional  Engineers  in  California 

11 

Government  and  California  Association  of 

12 

Professional  Scientists 38 

13 
14 

DAVID  HAWKINS,  California  Faculty  Association      39 

DOLORES  SANCHEZ,  California  Federation  of 

15 

Teachers 39 

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MARTIN  N.  HOSHINO,  Executive  Officer, 

18 

Board  of  Parole  Hearings 82 

19 

Questions  by  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG  re: 

20 

Proposition  9/Marsy's  Law 86 

21 

Training  Commissioners 90 

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Programs  for  lifers 96 

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PROCEEDINGS 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Good  afternoon,  everyone. 
The  Senate  Rules  Committee  will  come  to  order. 

Jane,  if  you  could  please  call  the  roll. 

MS.  BROWN:    Senator  Cedillo. 

SENATOR  CEDILLO:    Here. 

MS.  BROWN:    Cedillo  here. 

Dutton.   Oropeza. 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Here. 

MS.  BROWN:    Oropeza  here. 

Aanestad. 

SENATOR  AANESTAD:    Here. 

MS.  BROWN:   Aanestad  here. 

Steinberg. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    I'm  here.   We  do  have  a 
quorum. 

We  do  have  a  couple  other  members  that  are 
coming,  and  without  objection  we're  going  to  go  a  little 
bit  out  of  order  here  today  to  accommodate  some 
appointees  who  are  in  the  middle  of  their  actual  public 
service,  in  the  middle  of  meetings,  so  without  objection 
we  will  take  R.  Kirk  Lindsey  up  as  member  of  the 
California  Transportation  Commission. 

MR.  LINDSEY:    Thank  you. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Mr.  Lindsey,  welcome  to 

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1  MR.  LINDSEY:    Probably  very  little,  since  we 

2  don't  have  any  money.   You  know  that.   So  we're  not 

3  moving  forward  with  new  things.   We're  dealing  more  with 

4  old  things. 

5  The  SB  375,  however,  the  Commission  has  for  a 

6  number  of  years  been  very  in  favor  of  the  combination  of 

7  land  use  with  transportation.   In  fact,  it  became  part 

8  of  our  STIP  requirements.   Certainly,  your  bill  has 

9  strengthened  that  issue,  and  the  Commission  that  I'm 

10  aware  of,  and  certainly  this  commissioner,  is  all  in 

11  favor  to  move  forward  with  reducing  greenhouse  gases  and 

12  requiring  blueprints  and  such  for  transportation 

13  projects. 

14  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Is  there  a  timeline  that's 

15  been  developed  or  is  being  developed?   I  understand  the 

16  financial  situation,  obviously,  but  is  there  any  kind  of 

17  expectation  about  when  the  CTC  might  get  to  this  work? 

18  MR.  LINDSEY:    I  don't  know  that. 

19  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Okay.    I  think  one  thing  I 

20  certainly  appreciate  is  your  looking  into  that,  maybe 

21  raising  it  publicly  with  the  Commission  itself,  and 

22  assuring  us  that  even  with  the  fiscal  difficulties,  that 

23  there's  an  aggressive  timeline  planned  to  implement  this 

24  very  important  law. 

25  MR.  LINDSEY:    Senator,  the  Commission  is  very, 

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you.   If  you  have  any  member  of  your  family  or  anybody 
you  want  to  introduce,  please  do  so. 

MR.  LINDSEY:    I'm  good. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    You're  good.    Make  sure 
you  speak  right  into  that  mic,  and  I  will  ask  you  to 
make  a  brief,  capital  B,  brief  opening  statement,  if  you 
would  like.   And,  if  not,  we  can  get  right  into  the 
questions. 

MR.  LINDSEY:    I  would  like  to  be  reappointed  to 
the  California  Transportation  --  I've  been  appointed  and 
confirmed  by  y'all  to  the  California  Transportation 
Commission. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    All  right.    Well,  ten 
points  for  brevity.   That's  excellent. 

I  do  have  a  few  questions,  and  then  we'll  ask 
the  members  to  do  the  same,  and  we'll  take  testimony. 

As  you  know,  last  year  the  legislature  passed  a 
bill  which  I  authored,  Senate  Bill  375,  which  requires 
the  California  Transportation  Commission  to  maintain 
guidelines  for  travel  demand  models  as  part  of  allowing 
the  Air  Resources  Board  to  determine  greenhouse  gas 
reduction  targets  to  implement  375. 

What  is  the  Commission  doing  currently  to 
evaluate  these  models  and  compel  any  necessary  changes 
to  comply  with  SB  375? 

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very  aware  of  the  bill,  is  very,  very  aware  of  the 
demand,  the  goodness  of  those  things.   I  just  don't  know 
the  timeline.    But  I'll  —  if  there  is  one,  I'll  get 
back  to  you,  and  if  there  is  not,  we'll  get  one. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you  very  much. 

Let  me  ask  you  one  other  question,  and  that  is 
your  view  on  high-speed  rail  and  how  it  fits  in  with 
California's  other  transportation  priorities. 

I  mean,  do  you  believe,  as  a  current  and 
prospective  future  commissioner,  that  this  project  is 
important  to  the  State,  especially  to  the  Central 
Valley? 

MR.  LINDSEY:    I  think  in  the  grand  scheme  of 
things,  yes.   I  think  it's  expensive.   I  am  a  little  bit 
challenged  on  funding.   I  mean,  we  put  nine  billion 
dollars.   The  people  of  California.   That's  one  leg  of  a 
three-legged  stool.   I  think  you  need  federal  funds  to 
match  that  somewhere  in  that  same  neighborhood.   I  also 
think  you  need  private  investment  to  match  that.   The 
private  investment  seems  to  be  kind  of  out  there  in  this 
nebulous  cloud  that  might  be  available.    I  don't  see 
anything  that  really  says  to  the  tune  of  nine  or  ten 
billion  dollars  that  the  feds  are  at  the  table. 

But  I  think  in  the  grand  scheme  --  If  you  look 
at  the  world  of  transportation  from  30,000  feet,  it  is 

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about  getting  people  to  jobs,  to  retail  centers.    It's 
about  moving  goods.   It's  also  about  high-speed  rail.    I 
mean,  they'll  all  go  together  sooner  or  later.   So  it 
may  be  more  of  a  timing  issue  of  when  it  gets  done.   And 
I  understand  we're  still  ten  years  away,  20  years  away. 
It  is  certainly  a  challenge  out  in  the  future. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you.    Let's  open  it 
up  to  members  of  the  Committee.   Questions.   Senator 
Oropeza. 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Good  afternoon.   Thank  you 
for  your  time  yesterday.    I  appreciate  you  coming  by  the 
office.   I  think  we  had  a  really  good  conversation. 

MR.  LINDSEY:    My  pleasure. 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    I  did  want  to  talk  to  you  a 
moment  about  one  of  the  policy  areas  that  seems  to  be 
a  growing  area  of  interest  and  belief,  that  it's  maybe 
not  the  be-all/end-all,  but  certainly  one  of  the  main 
ways  that  we're  going  to  get  through  our  infrastructure 
problems  in  California,  and  that  is  the  use  of  tolls  as 
a  vehicle  for  financing  the  infrastructure.    Along  with 
that,  of  course,  the  sort  of  attendant  issue  of 
public-private  partnerships  and  how  they  work. 

We've  had  a  couple  examples  around  the  state  of 
public-private  partnerships  that  --  the  one  I'm  most 
familiar  with  is  on  the  91  freeway,  which  I  spent  four 

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1  that's  a  method  to  get  there,  maybe  we  have  to. 

2  However,  toll  roads,  for  example,  because  I 

3  know  you  care  about  toll  roads,  the  challenge  for  toll 

4  roads  is  it  may  be  okay,  but  it's  got  to  be  fair  and 

5  equitable,  and  there's  got  to  be  an  alternative  route. 

6  It  doesn't  make  sense  that  I  can  go  from  point  A  to 

7  point  B,  which  is  six  miles  on  a  toll  road  for  five 

8  bucks,  and  because  you  don't  do  a  toll  road,  it's 

9  27  miles  around  the  mountain.   That's  not  the  intent. 

10  So  I  think  if  the  intent  is  fair  and  equitable  to 

11  everybody,  you  know,  it's  okay. 

12  SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Has  the  Commission  ever 

13  discussed  that  fair  and  equitable  issue  relative  to 

14  people's  economic  means?    In  other  words,  there's 

15  another  level  at  which  I  object  to  the  toll  roads,  and 

16  that's  that  if  you've  got  the  dough,  you  can  go  fast. 

17  If  you  don't  have  the  dough,  you're  stuck  in  that  four 

18  hours.    I  had  the  dough.   I  just  didn't  know  how  to  do 

19  it,  but  that's  another  issue. 

20  But,  frankly,  that  equity  issue  is  also  one 

21  that  I  wonder  if  the  Commission  has  had  any  discussion 

22  about. 

23  MR.  LINDSEY:    We  have  had  lots  of  discussions, 

24  and  there's  lots  of  actual  tracking  on  who  uses  toll 

25  roads,  and  it  does  not  show  the  wealthy  people  are  the 

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hours  on  because  I  didn't  have  a  FasTrak  pass,  going 
from  Long  Beach  to  Pamona  on  Christmas  night,  and  the 
other  cars  whizzed,  whizzed,  whizzed  by,  but  there  was 
no  easy  way  for  me  to  buy  one  of  those  FasTrak  things 
while  I  was  out  there  on  the  freeway,  so  I  sat  for  four 
hours. 

Anyway,  my  question  is:    What  is  your  view  of 
these  public-private  partnerships?   You  know  the  history 
of  91  and  how  it  initially  was  not  so  together,  and  then 
it  went  over  to  the  agency,  and  now  it  is  financially,  I 
guess,  and  operationally  doing  fine,  and  the  issue  of 
tolls  as  a  financing  vehicle. 

MR.  LINDSEY:    My  opinion  is  those  are  methods 
to  bridge  a  gap,  but  I  don't  know  —  I  guess  my 
contention  is  they're  really  tinsels  on  a  tree.   The 
fact  of  life  is,  if  the  world  could  find  a  long-term, 
stable  funding  source  for  transportation  that  were  to 
carry  us  over  a  long  span  of  time,  I  don't  even  know  if 
/ve  would  be  talking  about  toll  roads  or,  you  know,  fast 

anes,  or  all  of  this  stuff. 

What  happens  is  we  don't  have  any  money,  so 

everybody  is  scurrying  around  trying  to  find  out  how  can 

ve  do  it,  and  that's  one  of  the  ways  to  do  it.    I  would 
'  uggest  we  don't  close  the  door  and  say  we're  not  going 

o  do  that,  because  we  may  never  find  the  money.    So  if 

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1  only  users  by  any  stretch  of  the  imagination.    Now  I 

2  will  get  you  some  information  to  show  you,  though, 

3  because  that  is  an  issue  -- 

4  SENATOR  OROPEZA:   That's  great. 

5  MR.  LINDSEY:    You  know,  we  as  the  Commission 

6  represent  everybody  in  California.    Not  the  rich 

7  people  --  sorry.    Not  the  big  city.    We  also  represent 

8  the  little  people. 

9  SENATOR  OROPEZA:    That's  right. 

10  MR.  LINDSEY:    So  it  is  really  important  to  us 

11  that  it  is  fair  and  equitable  across  the  board. 

12  SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Yes.    Well,  I'd  be  very 

13  interested  in  that.    I  would  be  interested  in  the 

14  proportionality  of  the  participation. 

15  I'm  guessing  that  certainly  there  are  people 

16  who  the  cost  benefit  of  getting  to  work  is  worth  it  for 

17  them  to  do  it  and  others  that  it  isn't.    So  I  would 

18  welcome  that  information.    And  I  thank  you  very  much  for 

19  your  answers  today  and  yesterday. 

20  MR.  LINDSEY:    You're  more  than  welcome. 

21  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    All  right.   Thank  you. 

22  Thank  you.    Get  these  mics  right  one  of  these  days. 

23  Do  we  have  questions  from  other  members? 

24  Senator  Dutton. 

25  SENATOR  DUTTON:    Good  afternoon.    I'm  extremely 

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1  interested  in  IB  and  how  it's  being  implemented  and  so 

2  forth,  sort  of  being  involved  in  helping  to  negotiate 

3  the  bond.    What  I'm  looking  --  What  I  want  you  to  share 

4  with  me  and  the  Committee  here  is  what  kind  of 

5  challenges  have  you  encountered  with  the  timely 

6  disposition  of  IB  and  the  projects  that  are  under  your 

7  supervision  and  control? 

8  MR.  LINDSEY:    Well,  you  know,  from  the 

9  Commission's  viewpoint,  if  you  all  said  you  had  a  buck, 

10  we'd  like  to  spend  it  tomorrow.   The  world  doesn't  quite 

11  work  that  way.    But  I  will  tell  you  the  $19  billion 

12  dollar  Proposition  IB  bond,  from  a  transportation 

13  viewpoint,  which  we  manage  about 

14  11  billion  of  that,  we  came  out  of  the  box  with 

15  CMIA  within  ten  months,  I  believe,  from  passing,  maybe 

16  less  than  that,  with  passage,  and  that  was  a  war  zone. 

17  But  that  was  five  billion.   Within  a  year  later,  we  came 

18  out  with  the  goods  movement  plan,  which  is  $4.5  billion 

19  dollars. 

20  I  would  suggest  from  a  Commission's  management 

21  of  money,  we  have  moved  as  fast  as  you  can  possibly 

22  move.   The  one  area  we  haven't  is  the  $1  billion  dollar 

23  matching  funds,  and  that's  almost  done  but  not  quite. 

24  That  was  the  last  piece  of  our  puzzle. 

25  The  challenge,  again,  becomes  how  do  you  be 

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1  projects. 

2  SENATOR  DUTTON:    What  I'm  kind  of  curious  about 

3  is  that  is  something  --  the  time  you  just  talked  about 

4  that  it  has  to  go  through  all  these  processes  and  all 

5  these  different  agencies  before  you  put  the  money  out, 

6  that  we  can  appropriate  it,  and  until  you  actually 

7  allocate  it,  it  doesn't  take  place.   And  what  I'm 

8  certain  about  is  that  we  may  have  missed  an  opportunity, 

9  because  if  some  of  these  projects  have  actually  got  — 

10  many  of  them  may  be  started  maybe  a  year  sooner.   I 

11  think  we  still  have  some  problems,  but  we  may  have  — 

12  there  may  be  a  lesser  burden  in  some  areas.   That's  one 

13  thing  I  was  wondering  about. 

14  So  is  there  some  way  that  you  could  have 

15  expedited,  or  is  there  some  extra  steps  that  were 

16  causing  these  projects  having  to  go  through  without 

17  taking  away  from  the  controls  over  --  you  know,  the 

18  CEQA,  the  environment  and  stuff,  but  is  there  some 

19  streamlining  we  should  consider  in  the  process? 

20  MR.  LINDSEY:    You  know,  I  think  there's 

21  always  —  today  -- 

22  In  the  meeting  today  we  talked  about  --  with 

23  the  feds  and  what  they're  potentially  doing,  and  how 

24  you're  going  to  get  there  in  90  days  or  how  you're  going 

25  to  get  there  in  180  days,  and  certainly  the 

11 


1  fair  and  equitable  across  the  board  to  the  big  cities, 

2  the  little  cities,  to  all  of  the  people,  and  you  are 

3  trying  to  put  together  a  congestion  management  plan. 

4  I  mean,  it  would  be  real  easy  to  go  to  Los  Angeles  and 

5  they  say,  "We've  got  250,000  cars  a  day  that  go  through 

6  this  intersection.   We  should  get  all  the  money." 

7  And  then  you  go  to  the  little  bitty  town  that 

8  says,  "I  got  2,500  cars  a  day  that  go  through  this 

9  intersection.   You  know,  at  least  throw  me  a  bone." 

10  We've  got  to  somehow  figure  out  how  to  get 

11  between  those,  so  you  start  at  the  bottom.   And  I  think 

12  we  did  a  marvelous  job  of  going  to  local  communities, 

13  getting  their  input  on  a  very  fast  track,  and  then  going 

14  to  councils  and  governments,  which  would  represent  a 

15  county,  if  you  will,  or  a  county-type  area.   Then  you've 

16  got  to  go  through  Caltrans  districts,  then  you've  got  to 

17  go  through  the  State,  and  Caltrans  State,  and  ultimately 

18  it  ends  up  to  us. 

19  So  it's  a  challenging  process,  and  I  would  tell 

20  you  I'm  really  proud  of  the  Commission  for  how  fast 

21  we've  managed  most  of  the  money.    Now,  have  we  got  it 

22  all  out  the  door?   No.    But  we  also  don't  have  it  right 

23  now.   Sometimes  the  good  Lord  throws  you  something  you 

24  didn't  expect.   If  we  had  it  all  out  the  door,  I'm  not 

25  sure  we  wouldn't  be  potentially  closing  down  other 

10 


1  environmental  review  and  some  of  that  comes  into  play. 

2  Permitting  issues  come  into  play.    How  do  I  access 

3  contractors  to,  maybe,  shorten  the  timeline  on  a 

4  contract  bid  from  90  days  down  to  60  days.   We're  right 

5  now  looking  at  every  way  we  can  so  we  can  maximize 

6  dollars  if  they  do  come  available. 

7  So,  certainly,  hindsight  is  a  little  bit  20/20. 

8  Saying  that  a  year  ago  we  may  have  been  able  to  do  some 

9  of  those  same  things,  we  didn't. 

10  SENATOR  DUTTON:    Okay.   Thank  you. 

11  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Senator. 

12  SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Simple  question  I  forgot  to 

13  ask,  and  that  is:    I  noted  that  there's  one  female  on 

14  the  Commission.    Do  you  find  that  that  poses  any  kind  of 

15  a  challenge  relative  to  getting  a  total  point  of  view  on 

16  the  citizenry  of  California,  given  that  over  50  percent 

17  of  California  are  female? 

18  And  then  I  would  ask  the  same  question,  if  you 

19  could  share  with  me,  I  don't  know,  what  the  top-level 

20  staff  looks  like  in  terms  of  gender. 

21  MR.  LINDSEY:   Top-level  staff  is  male.   Total 

22  staff  is  probably  more  female  than  male.   Total  staff. 

23  SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Meaning,  going  down  the  food 

24  chain  about  -- 

25  MR.  LINDSEY:    Two  levels  is  male,  and  then  you 

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start  to  diversify-   Okay. 

1 

California  Conference  of  Carpenters  to  support 

2 

The  issue  of  gender  on  the  Commission  has  never 

2 

Mr.  Lindsey.    One  of  our  -- 

3 

been  an  issue  that  I'm  aware  of.   Again,  I'm  very  proud 

3 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Your  name  is  Dan  - 

4 

of  the  fellow  commissioners,  over  the  years  that  I've 

4 

MR.  CURTIN:    I'm  sorry.    Danny  Curtin. 

5 

been  there,  that  this  isn't  a  boy-girl  thing.   This  is 

5 

One  of  our  leaders  in  the  Carpenters,  Bobby 

6 

what's  good  for  the  State  of  California. 

6 

Alvarado,  is  a  member  of  the  board.   I  think  it  goes  -- 

7 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Let  me  just  share  with  you  an 

7 

well,  not  without  saying  it,  which  we  should  praise  -- 

8 

example.    Okay.   The  needs  of  a  working  mom  who  has  a 

8 

This  board  has  been  extremely  efficient  at  a  very 

9 

couple  of  kids,  her  needs  in  terms  of  access  and  the 

9 

difficult  time  when  there  was  a  lot  of  money  to  move  out 

10 

expeditious  movement  of  her  vehicle  are  very  different 

10 

and  a  lot  of  demands  on  that  money,  and  I  think 

11 

than  a  --  let's  say  a  male  --  and  I'm  just  giving 

11 

Mr.  Lindsey  expressed  that  well. 

12 

examples.   They  could  be  in  reverse.   But  a  female  who 

12 

What  Bobby  tells  me  is  that  even  though  there's 

13 

drives  one  way  to  work  and  one  way  home.   And  when 

13 

a  lot  of  political  diversity  on  the  board,  there's  a 

14 

considering  options  for  what  serves  the  most 

14 

cohesion  and  a  real  attempt  to  make  this  thing  work, 

15 

Californians  the  best,  those  kinds  of  perspectives  can 

15 

that  Mr.  Lindsey  brings  a  lot  of  experience  and  reasoned 

16 

be  valuable  on  a  commission  as  you're  making  decisions. 

16 

thought  to  that  dialogue.   And  he  asked  me  to  come  up 

17 

So  I  would  hope  until  there  are  --  and  this  is 

17 

here  and  make  sure  you  are  aware  of  that,  and  that  we 

18 

not  at  your  pay  scale,  because  you  don't  make  the 

18 

support  him  all  the  way. 

19 

appointments.   Somebody  else  does.    But  what  is  at  your 

19 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you,  Mr.  Curtin. 

20 

pay  scale  is,  I  would  hope  you  would  think  about  those 

20 

MR.  SMITH:    Mr.  Chairman,  members,  D.J.  Smith 

21 

kinds  of  dynamics  as  you  go  through  your  work  and  maybe, 

21 

representing  a  good  deal  of  the  public  and  private 

22 

I  don't  know,  discuss  with  women  in  your  life  some  of 

22 

transportation  community  in  the  state. 

23 

the  issues  that  are  relative  --  that  relate  to  them  and 

23 

Mr.  Chairman,  as  you  know,  I  wrote  the 

24 

their  transportation  needs.   I  would  say  while  there  are 

24 

legislation,  working  as  a  staffer  30  years  ago,  for  the 

25 

many  more  similarities,  there  are  differences,  and  it's, 

13 

25 

Commission.   We've  seen  commissioners  come  and  go.    It's 

15 

1 

I  think,  a  valuable  voice  on  these  decision-making 

1 

something  I've  been  always  proud  of.   This  is  an 

2 

bodies. 

2 

extraordinary  commissioner  who  has  shown  leadership 

3 

MR.  LINDSEY:    Just  to  give  you  a  little  bit  of 

3 

beyond  belief  through  a  very,  very  difficult  problem 

4 

a  comfortable  feeling,  I'm  married.   I  have  a  wife  who 

4 

area.   You  know  --  As  you  probably  know,  I  think  a 

5 

is  more  vocal  than  I. 

5 

couple  of  you  have  been  here  in  good  times  and  bad 

6 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Where  is  she? 

6 

times.    It's  almost  harder  when  you  have  more  money  to 

7 

MR.  LINDSEY:    We  have  four  daughters.    My  wife 

7 

spend  than  it  is  less  money. 

8 

has  been  on  the  school  board  for  20  years  and  interacts 

8 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    We  would  take  that 

9 

with  moms  and  PTAs  over  our  whole  lifetime.   And  so  I'm 

9 

problem. 

10 

pretty  dialed  into  what  you're  talking  about. 

10 

MR.  LINDSEY:    Let  me  cut  him  off. 

11 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Ask  her  next  time. 

11 

When  I  started  on  the  Transportation 

12 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    And  former  coach  of  high- 

12 

Commission,  we  had  two  billion  dollars  in  cash,  and  two 

13 

school  girls'  aquatics. 

13 

years  later  we  had  zero.   And  I'm  going  to  promise  you 

14 

MR.  LINDSEY:    Actually,  I  just  finished  my  21st 

14 

it  is  much  more  fun  to  have  candy  in  the  candy  store. 

15 

year  and  am  still  coaching.   I  coach  high-school 

15 

There's  no  doubt  about  that. 

16 

swimming  and  high-school  water  — 

16 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Why  don't  you  finish  up. 

17 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:   That's  great.   You  have  to 

17 

MR.  SMITH:   This  is  one  of  the  best 

18 

see  those  sports  moms  and  dads. 

18 

commissioners  we've  ever  had,  and  he  deserves 

19 

Thank  you.   Thank  you  very  much. 

19 

reappointment. 

20 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Thank  you  very  much. 

20 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you  very  much,  sir. 

21 

Any  other  questions?   Support  the  nominee. 

21 

Anybody  else  in  support  or  opposition  to  the 

22 

MR.  CURTIN:    Mr.  Chairman  - 

22 

nominee?  All  right.    If  not,  I'm  prepared  to  support 

23 

Is  this  on? 

23 

your  nomination. 

24 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Yes. 

24 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    I'll  make  the  motion. 

25 

MR.  CURTIN:    -  Members,  I'm  here  on  behalf  of 

25 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Go  ahead,  Senator  Oropeza. 

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SENATOR  OROPEZA:    I'll  move  the  nomination. 

1 

has  been  a  rash  of  late  opposition  to  move  your 

2 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Moved  by  Senator  Oropeza. 

2 

appointment,  and  feel  free  to  make  any  kind  of  opening 

3 

Accept.   Prepared  to  support  the  nomination. 

3 

statement  that  you  want,  but  it  would  be  fine  if  you  got 

4 

Thank  you  very  much  for  your  dedication,  your 

4 

right  to  the  heart  of  it  and  responded  to  some  of  the 

5 

public  service,  and  your  willingness  to  continue. 

5 

concerns  and  criticisms  that  you  have  heard. 

6 

Please  call  the  roll. 

6 

MS.  CALVILLO:   Thank  you.  Senator. 

7 

MS.  BROWN:    Senator  Cedillo. 

7 

Good  afternoon,  Mr.  Chairman  and  members  of  the 

8 

SENATOR  CEDILLO:    Aye. 

8 

Committee.   I  would  like  to  thank  you  for  the 

9 

MS.  BROWN:    Cedillo  aye. 

9 

opportunity  to  come  before  you  today.   I'm  honored  and 

10 

Dutton. 

10 

humbled  to  serve  as  a  member  of  the  Public  Employment 

11 

SENATOR  DUTTON:    Aye. 

11 

Relations  Board.   I'm  privileged  to  continue  my  20-plus 

12 

MS.  BROWN:    Dutton  aye. 

12 

years  of  public  service  to  the  great  people  of  the  state 

13 

Oropeza. 

13 

of  California. 

14 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Aye. 

14 

The  charge  of  a  PERB  board  member  is  to  protect 

15 

MS.  BROWN:    Oropeza  aye. 

15 

the  rights  of  both  the  employee  and  the  employer  under 

16 

Aanestad. 

16 

the  seven  collective  bargaining  statutes  under  our 

17 

SENATOR  AANESTAD:    Aye. 

17 

jurisdiction.   This  is  a  charge  that  I  take  very 

18 

MS.  BROWN:    Aanestad  aye. 

18 

seriously.   The  cases  that  come  before  us  impact 

19 

And  Steinberg. 

19 

people's  lives  and  their  livelihoods,  and  I'm  respectful 

20 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Aye. 

20 

and  I'm  mindful  of  these  responsibilities  as  the  board 

21 

MS.  BROWN:    Steinberg  aye. 

21 

makes  its  decisions. 

22 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you  very  much.   That 

22 

Mr.  Chairman  and  members,  to  be  an  effective 

23 

nomination  will  move  to  the  floor  of  the  State  Senate. 

23 

member  of  PERB,  fairness  and  impartially  are  key.   An 

24 

Thank  you. 

24 

integral  part  of  our  job  is  to  ensure  consistent 

25 

All  right.    Next  we  will  go  back  to  the  agenda 

17 

25 

application  of  the  board's  precedent  and  the  laws  we 

19 

1 

as  it  is  laid  out  and  ask  Alice  M.  Calvillo,  member  of 

1 

administer.   To  this  end,  we  are  fortunate  to  have  more 

2 

the  Public  Employment  Relations  Board,  to  come  forward, 

2 

than  30  years  of  board  precedent,  as  well  as  decisions 

3 

please. 

3 

from  the  National  Labor  Relations  Board,  to  use  in 

4 

Ms.  Calvillo,  welcome  to  you. 

4 

formulating  our  rulings. 

5 

MS.  CALVILLO:   Thank  you,  Senator. 

5 

In  keeping  with  my  belief  that  justice  delayed 

6 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Would  you  like  to 

6 

is  justice  denied,  resolving  disputes  that  come  before 

7 

introduce  any  members  of  your  family  or  supporters  that 

7 

PERB  in  a  timely  manner  is  crucial.    I  also  strive  for 

8 

are  here  today? 

8 

PERB's  charge  for  neutrality  and  work  to  foster  our 

9 

MS.  CALVILLO:    Yes,  I  would.   Thank  you  for  the 

9 

mission  to  promote  harmonious  labor  relations.   The  work 

10 

opportunity.    I  have  my  family  in  the  first  row  here,  my 

10 

done  at  PERB  is  very  important,  and  it  is  my  sincere 

11 

husband,  Frank. 

11 

hope  that  my  service  there  may  continue.    And,  again,  I 

12 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Welcome. 

12 

thank  you  for  the  opportunity  to  speak  before  you  today 

13 

MS.  CALVILLO:    My  brother,  Stan,  my  mother 

13 

and  welcome  your  questions. 

14 

Elaine,  my  sister,  Laura,  and  my  father,  Dick  Dowdin. 

14 

I  know  that  there  has  been  opposition  lobbied 

15 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Welcome  all  of  you  to  the 

15 

against  me,  Senator  and  members.   One  of  the  allegations 

16 

California  State  Senate.    Glad  to  have  you  here. 

16 

has  been  that  I  have  not  been  impartial,  and  I  have  not 

17 

MS.  CALVILLO:    I  also  have  my  PERB  family  here 

17 

been  fair  in  my  rulings. 

18 

as  well  in  the  audience.    And  I  thank  them  for  being 

18 

Since  I've  been  on  PERB,  I  have  participated  in 

19 

here  as  well,  Senator.  Thank  you  for  the  opportunity. 

19 

making  28  decisions.   That's  a  lot  of  decisions.    Five 

20 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Very  good.    We're  glad 

20 

of  those  have  been  administrative  in  nature,  requests 

21 

you're  here.   What  we  would  like  you  to  do  is  make  an 

21 

for  denial  of  appeal  and  so  forth.    Eleven  of  my 

22 

opening  statement,  a  little  longer  then  Mr.  Lindsey 

22 

decisions  have  focused  on  --  excuse  me.    Eleven  of  my 

23 

here.    We'd  like  to  hear  why  you  seek  reappointment  and 

23 

decisions  were  actually  appeals  of  decisions  that  were 

24 

maybe  —  you  know,  we  like  to  sort  of  cut  to  the  chase 

24 

written  by  administrative  law  judges,  and  12  of  those 

25 

here.    We  do  know  that  --  The  Committee  knows  that  there 

18 

25 

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before  us. 

When  you  separate  those  two  sets  of  appeals, 
reality  is  I've  ruled  in  favor  of  labor  just  as  many 
times  as  I've  ruled  in  favor  of  the  employer,  four  times 
each,  and  I've  ruled  in  favor  of  both  three  times.   So 
it's  confusing  to  me  in  understanding  how  there  is  this 
argument  that  I'm  not  —  I  haven't  been  fair  and 
impartial. 

So  I'd  like  to  leave  it  at  that.   There  may  be 
some  more  questions,  and  I'll  entertain  those. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Right.    I  know  I  have  a 
series  of  questions  of  some  of  the  cases  that  have  been 
raised,  but  I'm  going  to  hold  off  for  now.    If  you  are 
done  with  your  statement,  I  would  like  to  —  I  think  I 
would  like  to  begin,  if  there's  no  objection,  with 
support  and  opposition  testimony,  because  I  think  that 
will  help  frame  some  of  the  questions  that  the  members 
may  want  to  ask. 

So  if  we  could  please  have  the  witnesses  in 
support  of  the  nominee  please  come  forward. 

Okay.   Witnesses  in  opposition  to  the  nominee. 

Again,  I  don't  know  how  many  witnesses  in 
opposition  are  representing  the  same  viewpoint,  but  if 
you  can  organize  the  testimony  in  a  way  that  somebody 
gives  the  bulk  of  it  and  everybody  else  says,  "Me  too," 

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1  through  and  very  carefully  reviewed  these  cases.   And, 

2  in  fact,  our  opposition  did  come  in  late,  but  I  think 

3  you  have  to  understand  in  her  first  month  on  the  board, 

4  she  issued  a  very  small  number  of  decisions,  not  very 

5  controversial.   In  the  last  several  months,  from 

6  September  to  December,  she  issued  a  large  number  of 

7  decisions.   And  the  basis  of  our  opposition  is  primarily 

8  upon  those  cases  that  were  issued  in  December,  in 

9  particular,  two  cases  that  were  issued  December  19th. 

10  So  rather  than  oppose  her  based  on  issues  not 

11  related  to  the  facts,  we  carefully  reviewed  the  details 

12  of  each  of  these  cases,  and  the  last  cases  she  issued 

13  were  the  most  egregious  cases  that  we  found,  two  on 

14  December  19th,  one,  the  Amalgamated  Transit  Union  vs. 

15  Omnitrans,  where  she  reversed  the  administrative  law 

16  judge  on  two  of  the  three  decisions,  on  three  points, 

17  all  of  which  the  AU  ruled  in  favor  of  the  union. 

18  We  are  particularly  concerned  that  in  this 

19  case,  she  used  the  past  practice  of  the  employer  in  the 

20  first  charge  to  overturn  the  AU  and  rule  against  the 

21  union,  and  then  she  turned  around  and  used  the  past 

22  practice  of  the  union  and  ignored  that,  rejected  that 

23  past  practice,  and  instead  used  testimony  by  two 

24  management  workers  to  overturn  the  AU  again  against  the 

25  union.    So  she  interprets  past  practice  in  that  case  in 

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if  that's  the  way  it  works,  we'd  appreciate  it. 

MR.  LOW:    Okay. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Okay. 

MR.  LOW:    Thank  you.   Chairman  and  members, 
David  Low,  California  School  Employees  Association. 

CSEA  does  oppose  the  confirmation  of  Alice 
Dowdin  Calvillo  to  the  Public  Employment  Relations 
Board,  and  it's  a  rare  occurrence  for  us  to  oppose 
confirmations.    In  my  27  years  with  the  CSEA,  I  can 
count  on  one  hand  the  number  of  times  I  have  appeared 
before  the  Senate  Rules  Committee  in  this  capacity. 
However,  in  this  case,  we're  very  compelled  to  oppose 
based  on  the  general  anti-labor  direction  that  the  PERB 
board  is  taking  as  a  whole  and  the  specific  role  that 
Ms.  Calvillo  has  played. 

In  her  short  term  on  the  board,  she  has  issued 
23  board  decisions,  and  by  our  math  16  of  these 
decisions  was  decided  against  labor.    She  seems  to 
account  where  she  split  the  decision  and  overturns  — 
but  doesn't  overturn  the  whole  case  against  labor  as  a 
favorable  decision.   We  view  those  decisions  as  an 
opposing  decision. 

We  don't  oppose  just  based  on  the  numbers.    Her 
70  percent  voting  record  against  labor  is  not  the  issue. 
The  fact  is  that  the  real  issue  is  that  we  have  gone 

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1  totally  opposite  manners  in  the  same  case.   She  gives  no 

2  weight  to  the  union  past  practice,  and  then  she  also 

3  ignores  precedent  in  that  case  as  it  relates  to  the 

4  charge  where  the  union  is  using  leave  to  participate  in 

5  activities  of  external  union  matters. 

6  The  McPherson  case,  which  is  referenced  in  that 

7  decision,  states  that  it's  established  that  activities 

8  on  behalf  of  other  unions  or  units  of  employees 

9  constitutes  protected  union  activity,  yet  what  the  board 

10  does  is  they  say,  "No,  we're  going  to  reject  that  and 

11  we're  going  to  say  that  because  they  —  the  banishment 

12  of  employees  mentioned,  that  they  said  it's  not  a  union 

13  activity,  we're  going  to  reject  them  on  precedent,  and 

14  we're  going  to  decide  against  the  union."   So  she  states 

15  that  she  adheres  to  precedent,  and  in  fact  in  this  case 

16  completely  rejects  the  precedent  and  overturns  the  union 

17  on  two  charges. 

18  You  know,  the  cases  of  retaliation  for  union 

19  activity  are  amongst  the  most  important  decisions  that 

20  the  unions  bring.   This  is  our  livelihood  here  in  terms 

21  of  protecting  members.    Local  union  officers  are  almost 

22  always  volunteer  officers  who  donate  their  time  and  work 

23  at  the  employer's  job  and  represent  their  fellow 

24  members,  so  it's  difficult  to  recruit  these  people  to 

25  donate  their  time  for  these  jobs.   And  when  they  are 

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1  found  that  management  has  carte  blanche  to  harass, 

2  intimidate,  or  terminate  union  officers,  it  just  makes 

3  that  job  that  much  harder.   Yet  Ms.  Calvillo,  in  this 

4  case,  treats  this  case  as  if  it's  nothing  more  than  a 

5  simple  case  of  forgetting  to  present  your  leave  request 

6  48  hours  in  advance. 

7  In  this  case,  the  employee  presented  it  on 

8  Friday  for  a  Monday  leave.    So  in  fact  the  employer  knew 

9  it  was  for  union  leave,  it  was  a  legitimate  union  leave. 

10  Even  though  it  was  three  days  in  advance,  it  wasn't 

11  48  hours  of  workdays,  and  she  just  rejects  any  facet  of 

12  union  representation  and  instead  says,  "No,  in  a  lead 

13  case,  if  you  don't  give  48  hours'  notice,  you're 

14  terminated." 

15  In  Baker  Valley  Teachers  Association  vs.  Baker 

16  Valley  Unified,  the  AU  found  in  favor  of  the  union  in 

17  both  of  two  charges  where  the  employer  brought  union 

18  officers  in  and  asked  them  to  resign.    In  the  one  case, 

19  Mr.  Zear  was  the  union  president.    He  was  one  of  only 

20  three  members  of  the  union,  because  it  was  a  newly 

21  active  union.   The  president  resigned,  he  got  thrust 

22  into  the  presidency,  and  he  started  holding  more  union 

23  meetings,  bringing  CTA  representatives  to  the  bargaining 

24  table,  just  engaging  in  much  more  active  union  activity. 

25  And  the  employer  called  him  in  after  that  and  asked  him 

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1  Mr.  Zear's  union  activism  had  been  ongoing  and 

2  recent,  and  the  evaluations  of  him  were  six  months 

3  earlier.   She  also  finds  the  term  "classroom  management" 

4  is  not  at  all  vague  or  ambiguous,  which  we  find  fault 

5  with. 

6  The  new  standard  established  by  Ms.  Calvillo  in 

7  this  case,  and  her  fellow  board  members,  sends  dire 

8  warnings  to  union  leaders,  which  is:    If  you  don't  have 

9  a  spotless  record,  or  if  you  have  a  single  blemish,  your 

10  union  activism  can  be  discounted  in  a  retaliation  case, 

11  and  we  will  instead  reach  back  into  the  record  as  far  as 

12  we  can  to  justify  these  terminations. 

13  In  the  San  Mateo  Firefighters  case,  the  board 

14  found  in  favor  of  the  employer,  and  Ms.  Calvillo  writes 

15  a  concurrence  in  this  case  where  she  agrees  with  the 

16  board's  majority  decision,  but  she  takes  it  a  step 

17  further.   The  board  decided  that  —  at  least  in  this 

18  case,  there's  a  well-established  precedent  that  shows 

19  that  a  person  that  reports  a  safety  violation  is 

20  engaging  in  a  protected  activity. 

21  Ms.  Calvillo  argues  that  she  disagrees  with 

22  her  fellow  board  members,  and  that  a  different  standard 

23  than  the  PERB  precedent  under  the  Regents  of  UC, 

24  L.A.  Unified,  and  Oakdale  should  not  apply,  instead  an 

25  NLRB  precedent  should  apply.   And  we  would  urge  you  to 

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1  to  resign,  and  the  AU  found  that  the  elements  of 

2  protected  activity  were  met,  adverse  actions,  timing  of 

3  the  charge,  and  he  ruled  the  district  departed  from 

4  standard  procedures  by  not  giving  Zear  a  written  notice 

5  of  opportunity  for  a  hearing  and  a  statement  of  charges 

6  as  required  by  the  Ed  Code. 

7  Now,  Ms.  Calvillo  reverses  the  AU's  decisions 

8  and  asserts  that  the  district  is  justified  in  their 

9  violation  of  the  Education  Code  because  they  have  a 

10  past  practice  of  violating  the  law  in  other  cases.    So 

11  because  they  didn't  give  previous  employees  their  legal 

12  right  to  notification  of  a  hearing  and  their  statement 

13  of  charges,  she  states  that  they  don't  have  to  give  the 

14  union  president  this  legally  required  Education  Code 

15  notice  of  a  hearing  and  a  statement  of  charges,  and 

16  dismisses  the  charge  and  reverses  the  AU. 

17  She  also  asserts  the  nexus  is  not  established 

18  between  the  connected  activities,  and  that  the  forced 

19  resignation  of  the  union  president  is  okay  because  he 

20  had  been  given  a  previous  evaluation  criticizing  him  for 

21  classroom  management. 

22  We  find  this  decision  onus  on  many  levels.    It 

23  continues  a  pattern  where  Ms.  Calvillo  disregards  facts 

24  in  favor  of  the  union,  issues  a  decision  that  has  a 

25  chilling  effect  on  union  representation. 

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1  read  --  We  have  attached  her  actual  --  her  concurrence 

2  opinion,  because  I  had  to  read  it  five  times.    I  thought 

3  her  logic  was  tortured  and  flawed.    She  concedes  that 

4  the  employee  had  safety  concerns;  she  concedes  that  he 

5  communicated  them;  but  she  questions  his  motivation, 

6  essentially,  and  finds,  because  he  might  have  had  some 

7  self-interest,  that  reported  safety  concerns  aren't 

8  protected  activity  in  this  single  case. 

9  Finally,  lastly,  we  find  fault  in  the 

10  California  Federation  of  Interpreters  case,  Region  4, 

11  where  Calvillo  and  the  board  again  reversed  the  AU  who 

12  ruled  that  the  committee  violated  the  act  by  denying 

13  union-requested  information  and  request  to  arbitrate  a 

14  dispute  on  behalf  of  a  court  interpreter.   The  court 

15  interpreter  was  a  contract  employee.   And  the  board 

16  concedes  in  their  decision  that  one  of  the  purposes  of 

17  the  act  is  to  convert  independent  contractors  to  trial 

18  court  employees,  and  another  key  purpose  of  the  act  is 

19  to  give  collective  bargaining  rights  to  these  employees. 

20  Yet  Ms.  Calvillo  overturns  the  AU's  decision  and  rules 

21  the  union  can't  receive  information  to  represent  this 

22  employee,  and  he  cannot  arbitrate  because  the  court 

23  interpreter  is  a  contract  employee. 

24  This  case  has  very  far-reaching  ramifications 

25  for  all  of  us  in  labor,  because  we  often  run  across  the 

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1  practice  of  employers  who  misclassify  workers  to  deny 

2  them  union  representation  and  benefits  in  other  areas. 

3  They  classify  them  as  "temporary,"  "contractors," 

4  "intermittent,"  "short-term,"  "provisional,"  all  sorts 

5  of  terms.    So  this  throws  the  door  wide  open  for  these 

6  abuses,  because  now  it  opens  the  door  to  grant  the 

7  employers  the  right  and  not  to  give  us  the  information 

8  to  represent  these  people  and  not  allow  us  to  challenge 

9  these  misclassifications  and  make  these  people  whole  and 

10  bring  them  in  as  employees. 

11  For  us,  PERB  is  the  equivalent  of  the  Supreme 

12  Court.    Ms.  Calvillo  often  stated  when  we've  talked  to 

13  her,  "The  facts  are  the  facts,"  but  the  fact  is  for  us 

14  she  interprets  the  facts  in  a  way  that  shows  a  very 

15  strong  anti-union  bias,  and  while  we  applaud  her  for 

16  issuing  many,  many  decisions  in  her  short  tenure,  while 

17  justice  delayed  is  justice  denied,  the  fact  is  justice 

18  denied  is  also  justice  denied,  and  we  feel  she  has 

19  denied  justice  to  public  employees  and  ask  your  "No" 

20  vote  on  her  confirmation. 

21  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you,  Mr.  Low.    Could 

22  you  explain  --  Before  you  leave,  I  noticed  that  Senator 

23  Aanestad  had  a  question  or  two  for  you. 

24  SENATOR  AANESTAD:    Mr.  Low,  in  the  first  few 

25  cases  that  you  quoted,  one  was  McPherson,  the  other  was 

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1  law  judge  decided  in  favor  of  the  union  in  both  charges. 

2  Both  of  them  dealt  with  retaliation  against  union 

3  officers.   And  the  board  reversed  the  AU,  and  instead 

4  of  siding  in  favor  of  the  union  -- 

5  SENATOR  AANESTAD:   So  it  was  the  board  that 

6  reversed  the  AU. 

7  MR.  LOW:    There's  never  a  decision  that  goes 

8  before  the  PERB  where  only  one  person  decides.   All  of 

9  the  decisions  from  PERB  are  board  decisions.   There's  no 

10  such  thing  as  an  individual  judge's  decision. 

11  SENATOR  AANESTAD:    And  what  is  the  purpose  of 

12  the  board  to  meet  after  the  AU  has  made  their  ruling  if 

13  not  to  be  able  to  question  the  AU's  ruling? 

14  MR.  LOW:    We  do  not  dispute  the  right  of  the 

15  board  and  the  responsibility  the  board  to  question  all 

16  AUs'  rulings.    What  we  question  is  --  is  her  rationale 

17  used  in  these  decisions. 

18  SENATOR  AANESTAD:    Her  rationale  or  the  board's 

19  rationale? 

20  MR.  LOW:    Well,  both. 

21  SENATOR  AANESTAD:    Both.    So  if  you  had  your 

22  way,  you  would  urge  a  "No"  confirmation  vote  on  any  of 

23  those  members  who  voted  against  you  in  those  two  cases. 

24  It  just  happens  Ms.  Calvillo  is  here  today  — 

25  MR.  LOW:    Not  just  those  two  cases.   Our 

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Baker  Valley,  what  was  the  final  disposition  in  those 
cases? 

MR.  LOW:    The  final  disposition  on  the  first 
case,  which  was  ATU  Omnitrans,  there  were  three  charges. 
The  administrative  law  judge  ruled  in  favor  on  all  three 
charges.   The  final  disposition  was  PERB  overturned  the 
AU  and  terminated  the  union  president  on  charge  one, 
affirmed  charge  two,  and  overturned  or  reversed  the  AU 
on  charge  three,  and  it  was  a  unilateral  change  charge. 

SENATOR  AANESTAD:    And  she  did  this 
unilaterally? 

MR.  LOW:    She  did  -  no.    It  was  the  whole 
board  decision.   She  was  one  of  the  board  members. 

SENATOR  AANESTAD:    So  this  was  a  board  decision 
to  overturn  the  AU. 

MR.  LOW:    Yes. 

SENATOR  AANESTAD:    Not  just  her  decision. 

MR.  LOW:    Right.    She  participated  in  that 
decision. 

SENATOR  AANESTAD:    And  where  is  that  case 
standing  today,  legally? 

MR.  LOW:    I  don't  know  if  it's  been  appealed  or 


not. 


SENATOR  AANESTAD:    Okay.    Baker  Valley. 
MR.  LOW:    Again,  two  charges.    Administrative 


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1  opposition  to  confirmation  aren't  just  those  cases. 

2  Those  are  what  I've  testified  on. 

3  SENATOR  AANESTAD:    Why  was  - 

4  MR.  LOW:    What  we  would  do  is  review  the  whole 

5  record  of  anybody  who  came  before  this  body,  and  we 

6  would  make  our  decision  on  opposition  based  on  all  the 

7  decisions  on  which  they  participated. 

8  SENATOR  AANESTAD:    In  the  Baker  Valley  case, 

9  final  disposition,  legally? 

10  MR.  LOW:    I  also  don't  know  if  that's  been 

11  appealed  or  not. 

12  SENATOR  AANESTAD:    Okay.    I  guess  my  question 

13  would  be:    If  the  final  findings  by  the  board  which 

14  happen  to  be  concurred  with  by  the  nominee  are  so 

15  egregious,  why  have  they  not  been  appealed? 

16  MR.  LOW:    I  don't  know  if  they've  been 

17  appealed.    Neither  of  -- 

18  SENATOR  AANESTAD:    Don't  you  think  that  would 

19  be  a  very  vital  part  of  your  allegations  -- 

20  MR.  LOW:    Sure,  but  I  know  -- 

21  SENATOR  AANESTAD:    -  because  the  failure  to 

22  appeal  would  seem  to  me  that  maybe  the  board  did  make 

23  the  correct  -- 

24  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Not  necessarily. 

25  MR.  LOW:    There's  a  lot  of  factors  that  go  into 

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1  a  decision  to  appeal,  and  that  is  not  --  that's  one,  but 

2  that's  not  all. 

3  SENATOR  AANESTAD:    The  point  here  that  I'm 

4  making  is:   This  nominee  is  not  making  these  decisions 

5  unilaterally,  that  it  is  the  board  that  is  making  these 

6  decisions.    She  just  happens  to  be  voting  with  the 

7  majority  of  the  board  on  this  way  with  which  you  are 

8  disappointed. 

9  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    That's  correct. 

10  MR.  LOW:    You  use  that  rationale,  you  can't 

11  oppose  anybody. 

12  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    That's  correct,  but  I 

13  think  Mr.  Low's  point  is  that  any  member  has  a  right  to 

14  either  join  the  majority  or  dissent  -- 

15  SENATOR  AANESTAD:    And  I  guess  I  have  the  right 

16  to  make  the  point  that  if  the  entire  board  is  voting  to 

17  overturn  an  AU  decision,  maybe  the  board  was  correct. 

18  And  maybe  her  decision,  although  you're  unhappy  with  it 

19  as  a  representative  of  labor,  maybe  her  decision  was 

20  correct  and  fair. 

21  MR.  LOW:    We  will  dispute  that. 

22  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    That's  what  we're  here  to 

23  talk  about  today,  among  other  issues. 

24  All  right.   Thank  you  very  much,  Mr.  Low. 

25  Other  witnesses  in  opposition,  please. 

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1  we're  here.   Thank  you. 

2  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you,  Ms.  Vega. 

3  Ms.  Sanchez. 

4  MS.  SANCHEZ:    Good  afternoon.   Libby  Sanchez  on 

5  behalf  of  the  Teamsters,  the  Machinists,  Amalgamated 

6  Transit  Union,  Local  21,  and  SCOPE. 

7  First  of  all,  I  just  want  to  say  I'm  so  pleased 

8  to  see  a  court  reporter  here  doing  the  good  work  that  we 

9  know  they  do. 

10  I  just  want  to  speak,  really,  about  the  public 

11  policy  rationale  behind  the  unions  I  represent  opposing 

12  the  confirmation  of  Ms.  Calvillo.   It  really  goes  to  the 

13  question  of  what  is  the  purpose  of  the  board.   Is  the 

14  purpose  of  the  board  to  make  determinations  based  on 

15  facts  and  law,  or  is  the  purpose  of  the  board  basically 

16  to  legislate  from  the  bench? 

17  We  would  contend  that  several  of  the  decisions 

18  that  the  —  that  Ms.  Calvillo  made  were  not  based  on  the 

19  facts  before  her,  were  not  based  on  the  law  before  her, 

20  but  rather  were  based  on  an  erroneous  interpretation  of 

21  the  facts  and  the  law  before  her. 

22  Reasonable  minds  can  disagree  about  a  perfect 

23  world  being  one  in  which,  you  know,  union-side 

24  determinations  or  management-side  determinations  are 

25  made,  but  I  would  hope  that  we  would  all  agree  that  the 

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1  Again,  I  think  Mr.  Low  did  a  very  thorough  job 

2  of  going  through  the  specific  cases.   I  don't  think  we 

3  need  to  repeat  them.    I  know  I'm  going  to  want  to  ask 

4  specifically  about  the  cases  myself  to  the  nominee. 

5  Go  ahead,  Ms.  Vega. 

6  MS.  VEGA:    Mr.  Chairman  and  members,  Caitlin 

7  Vega  for  the  California  Labor  Federation  also  here  to 

8  oppose  this  nomination. 

9  We  appreciate  the  meeting  that  we  had  with 

10  Ms.  Dowdin  Calvillo,  and  after  that  meeting  we  also  did 

11  a  review  of  the  cases  and  had  all  of  the  same  concerns 

12  expressed  by  Dave  Low. 

13  I  would  just  focus,  for  us,  on  the  central 

14  issue  of  what  constitutes  retaliation,  because 

15  California  has  strong  collective  bargaining  laws,  and 

16  this  legislature  has  determined  the  workers  in  the 

17  public  sector  have  the  right  to  get  together  and  bargain 

18  collectively  and  make  a  better  life  for  themselves  and 

19  their  families,  and  yet  when  workers  who  stand  up  for 

20  themselves,  who  attend  union  meetings  and  choose  to  be 

21  on  negotiating  committees,  face  retaliation,  are  fired, 

22  or  pushed  out,  or  disciplined,  the  message  is,  Don't  get 

23  involved  with  the  union.    Don't  speak  up  for  yourself. 

24  Don't  exercise  these  rights.    And  that  effectively 

25  undermines  everything  that  we've  fought  for.   That's  why 

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1  purpose  of  the  board  is  to  appropriately  interpret  the 

2  law  and  the  case  --  the  cases  before  them.   Thank  you. 

3  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you  very  much. 

4  Next.    Ms.  Castro. 

5  MS.  CASTRO:    Michelle  Castro  representing  the 

6  Service  Employees  International  Union.   We  do  not  wish 

7  to  repeat  but  would  concur  with  all  the  statements  made 

8  by  the  prior  witnesses. 

9  With  respect  to  appeals,  it's  a  matter  of 

10  timing.   The  most  egregious  cases  have  probably  not  yet 

11  been  appealed  and  probably  will  be  appealed.   There  have 

12  been  cases  overturned  by  the  Court  of  Appeal  which  is 

13  the  adjacent  function  for  the  PERB.    Most  recently,  the 

14  Fourth  Court  of  Appeal  overturned  a  case  by  PERB, 

15  CTA  v.  Journey  Charter  School  where  the  court  lambasted 

16  PERB  for  failing  to  follow  the  law  and  follow  their  own 

17  precedent. 

18  So  there  is  a  history  here  with  this  board,  and 

19  in  particular  with  this  member,  so  I  just  wanted  to  cite 

20  that  there  may  be  a  timing  issue  on  some  of  these  cases. 

21  Some  of  these  cases  -- 

22  SENATOR  AANESTAD:    Was  she  a  member  of  that 

23  board  that  was  -- 

24  MS.  CASTRO:    On  the  original  decision  on 

25  CTA  v.  Journey  Charter  School,  no. 

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SENATOR  AANESTAD:    So,  really,  that  information 
is  irrelevant. 

MS.  CASTRO:    With  respect  to  this  case  and  only 
in  this  case.   There  are  other  cases  that  involve  other 
unions  that  will  be  going  before  the  Court  of  Appeal, 
and  we're  waiting  on  those  decisions. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you  very  much. 
Next. 

MR.  BOLDEN:    Good  afternoon,  Mr.  Chair  and 
members.    Michael  Bolden  here  for  the  American 
Federation  of  State,  County  and  Municipal  Employees.    We 
concur  with  all  the  previous  comments  made.    I'll  keep 
it  short  and  strongly  also  oppose  this  recommendation 
for  appointment  to  the  special  board. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you,  Mr.  Bolden. 
Appreciate  it. 

SENATOR  AANESTAD:    Question. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Yes. 

SENATOR  AANESTAD:    How  many  of  your  members 
have  been  affected  by  decisions  regarding  this  nominee's 
reversal  of  an  AU? 

MR.  BOLDEN:    That's  a  very  good  question.    I 
don't  have  a  specific  number,  but  I  do  know  we've  had 
decisions  before  the  PERB  regarding  the  University  of 
California  employees  which  were  negatively  impacted  by 

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1  MR.  HAWKINS:    Mr.  Chair  and  members,  David 

2  Hawkins,  California  Faculty  Association.   We  share  the 

3  concern  of  the  lowering  of  standards  that  were 

4  established  by  previous  precedent,  and  we  must  oppose 

5  Ms.  Calvillo's  appointment. 

6  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you. 

7  MS.  SANCHEZ:    Dolores  Sanchez  with  the 

8  California  Federation  of  Teachers.    Not  much  more  to 

9  add.   We  are  in  strong  opposition,  and  we  don't  take 

10  these  appointments  lightly  at  all.   We  don't  come  before 

11  you  often,  but  we  felt  the  facts  in  this  case  warrant 

12  it.   Thank  you. 

13  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you  very  much.    Any 

14  other  witnesses  in  opposition? 

15  All  right.    Before  we  get  into  the  questions, 

16  we'll  take  a  five-minute  break,  please.    We'll  be  right 

17  back. 

18  (Recess  taken.) 

19  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    All  right.    We'll  call  the 

20  hearing  back  to  order.   I'd  like  to  begin  questioning 

21  Ms.  Calvillo. 

22  Ms.  Calvillo,  I  want  to  talk  about  the  specific 

23  cases  cited  by  Mr.  Low,  but  I  think  it's  a  little  easy 

24  to  get  lost  in  the  weeds  and  to  argue  different 

25  interpretations.   I'd  like  to  start  a  little  bit 

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decisions  on  the  board  that  went  against  the  union,  in 
particular,  cases  regarding  the  University  of 
California. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    I  can  answer  the  question. 
Of  the  two  cases  cited  where  there  was  a  reversal,  I 
don't  believe  they  were  AFSCME  cases.  Thank  you. 

SENATOR  CEDILLO:    Let  me  ask  this  question.    If 
that  law  applied  to  you  or  those  rulings  are  applied  to 
you,  you  don't  get  to  say,  "I'm  from  AFSCME.   That  was 
another  employee  from  another  union"? 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Precedence  is  precedence. 

MR.  CEDILLO:    Correct? 

MR.  BOLDEN:    Correct. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Okay.    Mr.  Toppin. 

MR.  TOPPIN:    Mr.  Chairman  and  members,  Ted 
Toppin  for  the  Professional  Engineers  in  California 
Government  and  the  California  Association  of 
Professional  Scientists  in  opposition  to  confirmation. 

I  think  Mr.  Low  and  others  did  good  specifics 
on  the  specifics  of  the  cases.   In  general,  we  believe 
the  anti-labor  bias  now  dominates  the  board,  and  it  is 
time  to  get  back  to  what  is  law  and  precedent  in 
determining  those  decision  there.   Thank  you. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you. 

Mr.  Hawkins. 

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1  differently,  because  I'm  a  former  practitioner  before 

2  PERB  myself,  as  we  talked  about,  and  know  something 

3  about  this  issue  of  retaliation.   And  so  when  it  comes 

4  to  retaliation,  what  usually  happens,  of  course,  is 

5  that  --  what  often  happens  is  that  there  is,  in  fact,  a 

6  protected  activity,  and  there  is  evidence  that  the 

7  employer  retaliated  against  the  employee  for  that 

8  activity.    But  there's  also,  maybe,  some  evidence  in  the 

9  record  that  the  employee  was  not  perfect,  and  then 

10  there's  a  justification  made  by  the  employer,  "That's 

11  the  reason  why  we  terminated  or  disciplined  the 

12  employee." 

13  So  what  I  want  to  ask  you  in  general  is  your 

14  philosophy  or  your  approach  to  addressing  so-called 

15  mixed-motive  cases.    How  do  you  determine  whether  the 

16  motive  is,  in  fact,  the  protected  union  activity  or 

17  something  in  the  employee's  record  that  justified  the 

18  action  made  by  the  employer?   Can  you  expound  on  that  a 

19  little  bit,  please. 

20  MS.  CALVILLO:    Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman.    I 

21  appreciate  that. 

22  Yes.    I  take  a  look  at  the  record.    It  is  my 

23  duty,  as  it  is  my  colleagues'  on  the  board,  to  review 

24  the  record  in  its  entirety.   That  is  the  records  --  if 

25  we're  talking  about  an  administrative  law  judge 

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1  decision,  the  evidence  in  the  record,  the  testimony  at 

2  the  hearing,  and  we  determine  whether  or  not  a  nexus  has 

3  been  established  between  protected  activity  and  the 

4  adverse  action  in  the  case  of  retaliation.   So  it's 

5  truly  a  decision  based  on  what  the  evidence  provides  and 

6  what  the  testimony  has  provided  and  whether  or  not  it's 

7  been  refuted  by  any  side. 

8  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    That  doesn't  quite  get  at 

9  it,  so  let  me  press  a  little  bit.    I  mean,  you  just 

10  described  sort  of  the  burdens  of  proof,  if  you  will,  in 

11  terms  of  how  --  analyzing  a  case.   I'm  interested  in 

12  something  different. 

13  When  you  look  at  a  specific  set  of  facts,  and, 

14  in  fact,  there  may  be  two  reasons  that  a  reasonable 

15  person  could  say  led  to  the  termination,  one  being 

16  protected  union  activity,  the  other  is  some  spot  or 

17  something  serious  in  the  employee's  record,  how  do  you 

18  balance  and  weigh  the  two  in  determining  which  is  the 

19  more  likely  factor?    How  do  you  do  that? 

20  MS.  CALVILLO:   Again,  it  goes  back  to  what  the 

21  evidence  is  before  us.    I  think  there's  a  --  this, 

22  perhaps,  will  best  illustrate  an  example  of  a  case  that 

23  we  had,  and  that  has  been  a  case  that,  obviously,  has 

24  been  raised  today,  and  this  is  on  the  Baker  Valley  case. 

25  We  had  a  situation  where  you  had  two  teachers, 

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1  months,  one  year,  two  years,  five  years  prior  to  the 

2  disciplinary  action?   Is  timing  a  factor,  and  where  do 

3  you  generally  draw  the  line  in  terms  of  an  employer 

4  being  able  to  go  back  in  time  and  saying,  "This  is  the 

5  reason  why  we  took  the  action"? 

6  MS.  CALVILLO:    I  appreciate  that.   I  don't  have 

7  a  fixed  set  in  my  mind  that  it's  two  months  or  six 

8  months.   Again,  I  look  at  every  case  on  a  case-by-case 

9  basis,  and  I  try  to  — 

10  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Excuse  me.    Is  there  an 

11  outside  line?   So  not  two  months,  six  months;  but  is  it 

12  a  year,  is  it  a  year  and  a  half? 

13  MS.  CALVILLO:    I  guess  what  I'm  saying  to  you 

14  is  that  I  don't  go  into  a  case  saying  it's  six  months  or 

15  one  year.   I  do  the  best  I  can,  based  on  what  the 

16  evidence  is  that's  before  me. 

17  I  apologize  if  I'm  not  answering  your  question, 

18  SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Can  I  give  it  a  try? 

19  How  far  back  would  you  look?   Say  the  guy  is  a 

20  30-year  employee.    How  far  back  would  you  look  and 

21  consider  relevant? 

22  MS.  CALVILLO:    It  would  depend  on  the  evidence 

23  that's  provided  to  me.    I  don't  know  how  far.    I  only 

24  know  how  far  it  is  now,  as  far  as  it's  stated  in  the 

25  record. 

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1  and  the  allegation  was  they  were  retaliated  against  for 

2  protected  activity.    And  in  one  instance,  the  board 

3  found,  as  we  agreed  with  the  administrative  law  judge  in 

4  that  case,  that  the  employee  did  indeed  --  was 

5  retaliated  against  for  protected  activity. 

6  With  regard  to  the  second  employee,  the  second 

7  employee's  personnel  record  contained  information 

8  suggesting  --  actually,  there  was  evidence  that  there 

9  were  issues  of  concern  with  regards  to  the  employee. 

10  Now  what  happened  during  the  testimony  during 

11  that  particular  case  is  that  the  employee  did  not  refute 

12  that  —  the  testimony  that  was  provided.   They  actually 

13  agreed,  so  -- 

14  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    That  they  had  performance 

15  problems. 

16  MS.  CALVILLO:    Yes,  that  they  had  a  performance 

17  problem.    So  I'm  taking  a  look  at  the  evidence  before  me 

18  as  well  as  the  testimony  before  me. 

19  So  if  the  employer  said  there  were  issues  and 

20  the  employee  agreed  that  there  were  issues,  in  that 

21  particular  case  we  found  there  was  no  --  retaliation  was 

22  not  for  protected  activity. 

23  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Does  it  matter,  for 

24  example,  whether  or  not  the  negative  chapter  of  the 

25  employee's  performance  occurred  three  months,  six 

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1  Again,  in  this  case,  the  AU  found  --  The  issue 

2  here  was  the  AU  had  found  it  was  unclear  and  ambiguous, 

3  and  we  ruled  against  that.   That  was  the  whole  crux  of 

4  this  particular  issue.   It  wasn't  whether  or  not  the 

5  information  or  the  performance  issues  were  old.    It  was 

6  the  reasoning  for  determining  that  they  were  a  protected 

7  activity.   And  the  board  did  not  agree  that  it  was 

8  unclear  or  ambiguous.    We  felt  that  based  on  the 

9  testimony  provided  and  the  fact  that  it  wasn't  refuted, 

10  that  it  was  clear. 

11  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    It  was  clear  that  the 

12  employee  had  performance  problems. 

13  MS.  CALVILLO:    The  reasoning,  yeah,  and  that 

14  was  the  AU's  reasoning.   The  AU  was  not  looking  at  the 

15  time  issue.   The  AU  was  looking  at  whether  or  not  this 

16  was  clear  and  ambiguous  —  unclear  and  ambiguous. 

17  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    You  know,  I  don't  want  -- 

18  MS.  CALVILLO:    I'm  sorry.    Vague  and  ambiguous. 

19  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Believe  me,  nothing  but 

20  respect  for  you  and  your  public  service  and,  you  know  -- 

21  and  this  is  intended  to  be  nothing  --  nothing  but  civil, 

22  and  it's  a  discussion,  but  it's  an  important  discussion 

23  about  philosophy  and  how  you  approach  cases  going 

24  forward.    That's  why  I'm  asking  this.    I've  tried  to  ask 

25  it  a  couple  ways. 

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I  think  it's  relevant  to  ask  in  these 
retaliation  cases  how  far  back  you  think  is  reasonable 
to  look  at  past  performance.   And  since  you're  not 
comfortable  going  there,  let  me  ask  it  a  different  way. 

Is  timing  important  itself?   Is  the  timing  of 
the  action,  the  adverse  action  in  relation  to  both  the 
protected  activity  and  whatever  performance  issues  may 
exist,  is  the  timing  and  the  sequence  of  those  events 
relevant  in  making  a  decision? 

MS.  CALVILLO:    It  could  be,  depending  on  the 
circumstance  and  the  evidence  provided. 

Unfortunately,  I'm  unable  to  reopen  this  case 
and  to  discuss  it  any  more  than  what  is  in  the  decision. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    I'm  deliberately  not 
asking  you  about  a  specific  case.   This  is  where  I  feel 
I'm  now  a  member  of  the  Senate  Judiciary  Committee  in 
Washington,  D.C.,  and  the  Supreme  Court  nominee  doesn't 
want  to  talk  about  any  potential  pending  cases. 

So  I  think  what's  fair,  as  I've  observed  that 
process  over  the  years,  is  certainly  not  to  ask  you  how 
you  would  decide  a  case  exactly,  because  you're  right. 
There  always  is  a  set  of  facts. 

But  I  think  it  is  fair  for  the  Committee  to 
know  and  understand  your  approach  and  the  reasoning  that 
you  use,  and  what  you've  told  us  is  that  you  look  at  the 

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1  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    That's  important  to  know. 

2  When  you  found  retaliation,  on  what  basis  did 

3  you  find  it?   What  were  the  factors? 

4  MS.  CALVILLO:    Each  case,  again,  is  different, 

5  but  there  was  a  direct  nexus  between  the  protected 

6  activity  and  the  adverse  action.   I  would  have  to  go 

7  through  the  details  of  each  of  those  cases  where  we 

8  established  retaliation  occurred,  but  there  was  enough 

9  evidence  to  prove  that.   And  based  on  precedent  -- 

10  Another  thing  I  consider  is  precedent  and  case 

11  law,  and  I  apply  that  to  each  and  every  case,  looking  at 

12  the  evidence.   If  timing  is  the  issue,  I'm  going  to  look 

13  to  see  what  case  law,  what  precedent  before  may  have 

14  addressed  that  issue  and  apply  it  there. 

15  There  are  many,  many  cases  before  me,  as  I 

16  mentioned.   I've  had  the  benefit  of  30-years-plus  of 

17  board  precedent,  so  certainly  I  don't  just  look  at  the 

18  evidence.    I  am  applying  case  law.   I  am  applying 

19  precedence,  how  my  colleagues  addressed  this  issue  in 

20  the  past,  so  I  apply  all  of  those  things  to  my  cases. 

21  If  the  crux  of  this  issue  is  timing,  I'm  going 

22  to  go  back  and  take  a  look  at  what  case  law  or  what 

23  precedence  dictates  with  regards  to  that.    I  have  had  a 

24  case  that  dealt  --  where  everything  was  built  on  timing, 

25  so.... 

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evidence  in  front  of  you,  and  that's  --  that's 
important.   And  that's,  frankly,  expected,  because  I'm 
sure  you  are  a  person  of  integrity,  and  you're  going  to 
be  impartial.    But  that  isn't  enough  for  us  to 
understand  what  your  guiding  philosophy  is  here. 

What  the  union  has  said  in  general  is  that  when 
it  comes  to  retaliation,  at  least  in  a  couple  cases, 
that  you'll  pick  something  out  of  the  past  that  may  not 
be  nearly  as  weighty  as  the  union  activity  that  the 
union  believes  motivated  the  action.    So  I  just  want  to 
know  in  general  how  you  weigh  those  two  things.   Is 
timing  relevant?   Do  you  weigh  the  gravity  of  the 
performance  problem  versus  how  involved  the  individual 
is  with  the  union?   I  mean,  there  are  ways  to  weigh 
this,  and  I  want  to  understand  how  you  weigh  it. 

MS.  CALVILLO:    And  I  do.   I  take  these  things 
into  consideration. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Take  what  into 
consideration? 

MS.  CALVILLO:    I  would  take  time  into 
consideration.   Again,  in  the  case  of  question  -- 
Actually,  I've  had,  I  believe,  five  retaliation  cases 
before  me  as  author,  and  I  did  find  retaliation  occurred 

24  in  two  and  a  half  of  those  cases,  just  for  purposes  of 

25  the  record. 

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1  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Okay.    Let  me  get  right  to 

2  the  Amalgamated  Transit  Union  case  and  hone  in  a  little 

3  bit  more  specifically.   The  thing  about  that  case  that 

4  bothers  me  that  I  think  Mr.  Low  or  the  other  witnesses 

5  raised  in  that  case  --  They've  raised  a  concern  that 

6  you're  applying  the  notion  of  past  practice  in  a 

7  differential  way,  that  on  the  one  hand,  the  employer 

8  apparently  had  a  past  practice  of  requiring  48  hours' 

9  notification  for  union  leave,  and  that  that  was 

10  violated,  and  yet  the  union  had  established  in  the  case, 

11  apparently,  a  past  practice  of  being  allowed  to  use 

12  leave  for  external  activity,  i.e.,  supporting  another 

13  union,  and  you  said  that  wasn't  valid  past  practice. 

14  So  two-part  question.   One  is:    Can  you 

15  describe  your  philosophy  and  view  on  the  use  of  past 

16  practice?  And,  secondly,  this  is  the  part  that  nobody 

17  has  raised  that  troubled  me:    When  you're  looking  at 

18  grounds  for  termination  --  When  you  say,  "I'm 

19  terminating  somebody,"  it's  sort  of  the  old  death 

20  penalty  for  employment.   Why  is  not  giving  a  full  48 

21  hours'  notice  before  you  begin  bargaining  a  contract 

22  grounds  for  termination?   Isn't  there  a 

23  form-over-substance  sort  of  issue  here  that  also  speaks 

24  to  the  motive  of  the  employer  in  this  case?  Two-part 

25  question. 

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1 

MS.  CALVILLO:  Yes,  I  appreciate  that.   And  I 

1 

and  —  was  whether  or  not  they  were  retaliated  for 

2 

just  want  to  preface  my  comments  by  saying  that  this 

2 

protected  activity,  and  because  —  because  the  employee 

3 

case  actually  is  now  pending  before  the  District  Court 

3 

did  not  meet  the  notice  requirement,  then  the  activity 

4 

of  Appeal,  so  I  am  a  little  bit  limited  in  how  I  can 

4 

in  which  he  was  participating  in  was  not  protected. 

5 

respond.   I  just  want  to  put  that  on  the  record. 

5 

So.... 

6 

This  was  a  very  difficult  case  that  came  before 

6 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:   Say  that  again,  please. 

7 

us,  and  there  were  actually  two  allegations  of 

7 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Go  ahead.    I  understood 

8 

retaliation  against  union  negotiators  for  time  they  took 

8 

it. 

9 

to  conduct  union  business.    And  what  we  did  in  this 

9 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    For  me. 

10 

particular  case  is  that  the  --  The  administrative  law 

10 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Yes.    Go  ahead. 

11 

judge  in  this  case  found  that,  in  fact,  Omnitrans 

11 

MS.  CALVILLO:   The  issue  here  was  that  the 

12 

retaliated  against  two  union  negotiators,  and  they  also 

12 

employee  did  not  provide  24  hours  of  notice,  and 

13 

found  two  issues  here,  the  unilateral  charge  had  changed 

13 

therefore  he  wasn't  violating  —  because  he  provided 

14 

the  union  business  leave  policy. 

14 

notice  for  more  than  24  hours,  he  wasn't  in  compliance 

15 

The  board,  after  examining  the  record  as  a 

15 

with  past  practice.   And  we  weren't  seeing  that  there 

16 

whole  and  anew,  found  that  the  MOU  itself  was  silent 

16 

was  a  protected  — 

17 

with  regards  to  the  amount  of  time  needed  to  give  the 

17 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Right.    He  didn't  follow 

18 

employee. 

18 

the  rules.   There  wasn't  protected  activity  to  even, 

19 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Right. 

19 

then,  trigger  an  analysis  of  retaliation. 

20 

MS.  CALVILLO:   Because  the  MOU  was  silent,  we 

20 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    So  he  couldn't  have  been 

21 

regarded  on  several  cases  that  dictated  that  we  then 

21 

retaliated  against. 

22 

look  to  past  practice  regarding  the  notice  requirement 

22 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Right,  that's  the  theory. 

23 

for  union  leave. 

23 

Again,  I'm  asking  the  question  whether  that  is,  you 

24 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    It  was  48  hours. 

24 

know,  form  over  substance. 

25 

MS.  CALVILLO:    No. 

25 

Okay.    I  don't  want  to  dominate  -- 

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CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   The  past  practice. 

1 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Is  it? 

2 

MS.  CALVILLO:   The  past  practice  was  the 

2 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Is  that  form  over 

3 

employees  were  required  to  give  24  hours  of  notice  for 

3 

substance? 

4 

union  leave.   The  union's  own  witness  testified  that 

4 

MS.  CALVILLO:    I  don't  ~ 

5 

this  was  the  past  practice. 

5 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    I  want  to  know.    If  he 

6 

We  then  --  And  we  actually  relied  on  a  case  to 

6 

doesn't  ask  it,  I  will. 

7 

determine  what  actually  constituted  past  practice,  but 

7 

MS.  CALVILLO:    I'm  not  sure  what  you're  asking. 

8 

because  the  board  found  that  the  MOU  was  silent,  and 

8 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    I'm  asking  is  violating 

9 

what  --  the  case  law  was  showing  the  next  best  thing  is 

9 

the  24  --  How  many  hours'  notice  did  the  union  activist 

10 

to  look  at  past  practice,  we  determined,  based  on  the 

10 

provide  in  this  case? 

11 

evidence  in  the  record,  that  24  hours'  notice  was  the 

11 

MS.  CALVILLO:    I  believe  he  provided  48  hours. 

12 

past  practice.    One  employee  provided  24  hours'  notice, 

12 

I'd  have  to  go  back. 

13 

one  did  not. 

13 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    No.   The  one  who  didn't. 

14 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    I  get  that.    Let  me  get  to 

14 

MS.  CALVILLO:    There  was  one  that  provided  -- 

15 

the  heart  of  it.    Why  should  somebody  be  terminated  for 

15 

He  provided  24-hour  notice. 

16 

violating  that  provision?   Is  that  a  capital  offense? 

16 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    The  other  one. 

17 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Punishment  fit  the  crime. 

17 

MS.  CALVILLO:    It  was,  like,  48.    It  was  more 

18 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    That's  the  part  that's 

18 

than  24  hours. 

19 

striking  me  about  this.    In  other  words,  if  it  is  minor, 

19 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Wait.   You  just  said  past 

20 

doesn't  that  speak  to  a  greater  likelihood  of  a  motive 

20 

practice  was  24. 

21 

for  retaliation? 

21 

MS.  CALVILLO:    Yes.    I'm  sorry.    He  provided 

22 

I'm  trying  to  get  to  your  thought  process  here. 

22 

less  than  24  hours. 

23 

Why  is  that  technical  violation  grounds  for  terminating 

23 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    How  many?   That's  what  I'm 

24 

a  union  a  union  leader  or  any  employee? 

24 

asking. 

25 

MS.  CALVILLO:   What  we  were  trying  to  determine 

25 

MS.  CALVILLO:    I'd  have  to  look  at  exactly  how 

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much. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    If  you  could. 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    We've  been  told  it  was  the 
same  day.   It  was  in  the  middle  of  his  shift  instead  of 
the  beginning. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Hold  on.    I  would  like  her 
to  go  through  the  record,  please. 

MS.  CALVILLO:    I  can  look  at  the  case  itself 
and  tell  you.    It  will  take  me  a  little  bit  of  time.    I 
apologize.   I  just  know  it  was  less  than  24  hours. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:  Okay.  It  was  less  than 
24  hours.  Do  you  remember  whether  it  was  12  or  18,  or 
was  it  just,  "I'm  leaving  work,  and  I'm  going  to  the"  -- 

MS.  CALVILLO:    I  don't  recall.    I  apologize.    I 
don't  recall. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   The  point  is,  and  I'll  get 
to  the  question  Ms.  Oropeza  was  going  to  ask,  is:    Let's 
assume  for  discussion  purposes  that  it  was  12  hours.    I 
don't  know,  and  you  don't  recall.   Why  does  that  matter? 
Really,  why  does  that  matter? 

MS.  CALVILLO:    Because  my  job  is  to  take  a 
look  —  We're  looking  at  a  retaliation  case,  and  I  have 
to  follow  precedent  and  case  law,  and  the  fact  is  I  have 
to  show  --  or  I  don't  have  to  show,  but  the  record  has 
to  show  that  the  protected  activity  has  occurred,  and  it 

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1  MS.  CALVILLO:    Yeah.    In  this  particular  case, 

2  the  evidence  showed  that  Omnitrans  --  again,  the  MOU  was 

3  silent  with  regards  to  what  specifically  defined 

4  authorized  union  business. 

5  Then  we  look  at  the  facts  in  the  case  as 

6  presented  to  us.   At  the  time  the  MOU  was  signed  by  both 

7  parties,  the  union  only  represented  employees  for 

8  Omnitrans.   They  didn't  represent  employees  in  other 

9  places  of  work.   So  we  --  There  was  no  opportunity  for 

10  the  employer  to  think  there  would  be  a  cause  for  the 

11  union  employees  to  be  going  out  taking  union  time  to 

12  participate  in  activities  for  other  employers,  and  -- 

13  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    What  is  the  past  practice 

14  in  that  regard? 

15  MS.  CALVILLO:    The  past  practice  there  --  The 

16  past  practice  was  it  was  silent,  again. 

17  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   The  contract  was  silent. 

18  I'm  asking  what  the  past  practice  was.    I'm  sorry. 

19  Did  you  analyze  whether  there  was  a  practice  of 

20  this  particular  employer  or  an  industry  practice 

21  allowing  the  union  officers  to  get  leave  time  to 

22  organize  -- 

23  MS.  CALVILLO:   They  didn't  ask  what  the  reason 

24  was  for.   The  employer  didn't  ask  what  the  reason  was 

25  for. 

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1  is  because  of  that  protected  activity  an  adverse  action 

2  has  occurred.   That's  within  the  PERB's  jurisdiction. 

3  And  so  there  are  some  fine  lines  there,  and  I  can  only 

4  rule  under  what's  under  our  jurisdiction. 

5  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Okay.   Two  more  questions, 

6  and  then  I'm  going  to  be  quiet  for  a  while. 

7  The  issue  of  how  you  look  at  past  practice, 

8  because  that  was  the  fundamental  complaint  in  the 

9  Amalgamated  Transit  Union  case,  that  you  looked  very  -- 

10  Obviously,  you  just  said  it.   You  looked  very  closely 

11  and  held  to  the  past  practice  of  requiring  24  hours' 

12  notice,  but  that  on  the  other  side,  the  union  apparently 

13  established  a  past  practice  that  it  was  okay  to  use  your 

14  union  leave  time  to  advocate  on  behalf  of  another  union, 

15  and  they  say  you  ignored  that  past  practice.    Is  that 

16  true,  and,  if  so,  how  do  you  justify  using  past  practice 

17  in  one  instance  and  not  in  another? 

18  MS.  CALVILLO:    Okay.   Again,  these  were  two 

19  different  charges.    You  had  the  charge  of  retaliation, 

20  which  was  against  the  two  employees,  and  then  you  had  an 

21  issue  of  whether  or  not  the  employer  actually  conducted 

22  a  unilateral  change.    In  the  unilateral  change  case  -- 

23  this  is  the  issue  with  regard  to  whether  --  when  -- 

24  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Under  what  circumstance  do 

25  they  grant  union  leave? 

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1  Generally  speaking,  if  I  recall  in  this 

2  specific  case,  the  employees  would  ask  for  the  union 

3  time,  and  that  was  granted. 

4  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Okay.    I'm  going  to  turn 

5  it  over  for  now.   Thank  you. 

6  SENATOR  AANESTAD:    I  just  have  a  question. 

7  Again,  I  made  this  comment  last  week,  and  this  candidate 

8  has  been  on  the  docket  for  a  month.  The  paper  that  I 

9  have  from  the  staff  says,  "We  have  received  no 

10  opposition  to  this  appointment,"  and  as  of  Friday,  as  I 

11  understand  it,  is  when  the  opposition  came  in. 

12  Ms.  Oropeza's  comments  --  I  surmise  that  you 

13  have  been  briefed  by  somebody  as  to  the  specifics  of 

14  this  case.    My  staff  is  not  aware  of  any  of  the 

15  specifics  of  this  case. 

16  I  continue  to  wonder  at  the  late-minute 

17  opposition  that  we're  getting  with  such  serious 

18  allegations  and  an  inability  of  me  and  my  staff  to  be 

19  able  to  weigh  in  on  those  who  are  making  --  asking 

20  questions  of  those  who  made  the  allegations  until  the 

21  actual  hearing  time.   And  I'm  just  wondering  if  somehow 

22  we  can't  start  asking  opposition  to  appointees  to  give 

23  us  more  lead  time  and  make  sure  the  information  is 

24  shared  with  both  the  chair  and  — 

25  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Senator  Aanestad,  I  want 

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to  respond,  because  I  think  it's  fair. 

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et  cetera,  but  you're  substituting  your  opinion  for 

2 

This  particular  circumstance  is  unique  in  a 

2 

another,  and  I  don't  believe  that's  the  appropriate  role 

3 

couple  ways.    Number  one,  we're  caught  in  the  transition 

3 

in  terms  of  your  review  here.   It  would  seem  to  me  there 

4 

here  between  legislative  sessions  and  a  new  pro  tern. 

4 

would  be  something  --  a  different  criteria,  as  the 

5 

This  nominee  —  Ms.  Calvillo's  nomination  expires 

5 

pro  tern  mentioned,  philosophy  for  reversal. 

6 

Saturday,  so,  again,  we've  only  --  this  is  our  second 

6 

MS.  CALVILLO:   Thank  you,  Senator.   Thank  you, 

7 

Rules  Committee  hearing. 

7 

Senator. 

8 

Secondly,  as  Mr.  Low  said,  in  fact,  the 

8 

I  believe  the  issue  of  concern  here  is  the  fact 

9 

opposition  was  late,  and  I've  expressed  some  of  the  same 

9 

that  myself  and  my  colleagues  in  a  couple  of  cases 

10 

concerns.    But  in  mitigation,  as  they  point  out,  a 

10 

demonstrated  today  have  been  responsible  for  concurring 

11 

number  of  the  cases  that  are  of  concern  here  were  cases 

11 

with  the  administrative  law  judge's  findings  and  his  or 

12 

that  were,  in  fact,  recently  decided,  so  they  didn't 

12 

her  proposed  decision. 

13 

have  the  basis  for  the  opposition  prior  to  very 

13 

Again,  to  preface  this  -- 

14 

recently. 

14 

SENATOR  CEDILLO:    Let  me  ask,  in  fact,  a  more 

15 

So  I  think  those  two  factors  put  us  in  a  little 

15 

exact  question.    Was  this  a  mistake  in  this  case? 

16 

bit  of  a  squeeze  here,  and  I  encourage  anybody  who 

16 

MS.  CALVILLO:    Which  case,  Senator? 

17 

opposes  any  nominee,  if  you  have  concerns,  come  as  early 

17 

SENATOR  CEDILLO:    In  the  reversal  here.   It 

18 

as  possible;  and  at  the  same  time,  that  you'll  have 

18 

seems  to  me  a  mistake,  or  fraud,  or  some  other 

19 

adequate  time  to  explore,  and  we  would  have  adequate 

19 

intervening  act  would  be  a  criteria.    So  either  it's  a 

20 

time,  for  example,  to  put  a  nominee  over  if  we  had  more 

20 

mistake  of  fact,  or  there's  fraud,  or  there's  some  other 

21 

questions  that  we  wanted  to  ask.    But  we  don't  have  that 

21 

factor  that  compels  you  to  reverse  a  lower  court,  not 

22 

luxury  in  this  instance.    Okay. 

22 

simply  a  disagreement  with  the  analysis. 

23 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    On  this  particular  one,  but 

23 

MS.  CALVILLO:    Absolutely.   And  the  reason  for 

24 

that  does  not  mean,  I  think,  Mr.  Chair,  that  under  the 

24 

my  uncertainty  to  your  question  is  there  were  actually 

25 

normal  operating  procedure,  there  would  generally  be 

25 

two  cases.    Baker  Valley  and  Omnitrans  were  both 

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more  time,  and  the  expectation  would  be  that  there  would 

1 

reversals. 

2 

be  a  time  for  responding. 

2 

SENATOR  CEDILLO:    Omnitrans. 

3 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Yes. 

3 

MS.  CALVILLO:    Thank  you  very  much  for  the 

4 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    With  the  holiday  and  'da, 

4 

clarification,  Senator. 

5 

'da,  'da,  'da,  and  this  expiring,  this  is  a  unique 

5 

In  this  particular  case,  the  administrative  law 

6 

situation,  right? 

6 

judge  has  responsibility  for  reviewing  records  and 

7 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Yes.    This  is  unique. 

7 

making  a  decision  based  on,  again,  case  law  and 

8 

Okay.    Other  questions  of  the  nominee. 

8 

precedent,  and  then  make  their  findings. 

9 

Senator  Cedillo. 

9 

SENATOR  CEDILLO:    Case  law  and  precedent  facts, 

10 

SENATOR  CEDILLO:    It's  interesting  that  --  my 

10 

appropriateness  of  the  punishment  in  the  context  of  the 

11 

colleague's  concerned  about  timeliness.    My  impression 

11 

full  record. 

12 

would  be  simply  from  the  nominee  that  you're  either 

12 

MS.  CALVILLO:    And  there  is  the  checks  and 

13 

timely  or  not  timely  so  we  have  an  opportunity  to  object 

13 

balances.   And  there's  the  opportunity,  when  a  party 

14 

before  the  hearing  commences.   The  unions  here  have 

14 

does  not  agree  with  those  findings,  to  appeal  that 

15 

raised  those  objections.   They're  timely.   There  doesn't 

15 

decision  to  the  board.   And  it  is  the  board's 

16 

seem  to  be  a  lot  of  gray  in  this  area.    But  let  me  get 

16 

responsibility  at  that  time  to  --  given  the  complexity 

17 

more  specific  here. 

17 

and  the  multiple  issues  that  are  in  a  case  —  to  review 

18 

I  could  see  the  reason  in  your  analysis  of  this 

18 

the  case  as  anew  and  as  a  whole,  and  to  consider  the 

19 

case.    I  might  disagree  with  you,  but,  I  mean,  it's 

19 

testimony  that  was  provided  during  the  AU's  hearing. 

20 

reasoned.    It's  very  reasoned.    But  that's  not  the 

20 

And  the  fact  of  the  matter  is  some  of  these 

21 

question  here  or  my  question,  though,  is:    What  is  the 

21 

cases  are  very  close  calls,  but  it  is  our  responsibility 

22 

criteria  to  reverse  a  ruling  that  comes  from  below?    In 

22 

to  give  that  second  look,  just  as  it  is  the 

23 

other  words,  is  simple  disagreement  sufficient?    Because 

23 

responsibility  of  the  District  Court  of  Appeal  to  take  a 

24 

what  we're  talking  about  here  is  not  your  opinion  about 

24 

second  look  at  our  cases  when  there  is  a  dispute  as  to 

25 

a  case,  your  analysis  of  the  facts, 

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whether  or  not  we've  ruled  correctly,  according  to  that 

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particular  party. 

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But  I  have  done  a  thorough  examination.   The 

2 

The  fact  is,  there  are  a  couple  different 

2 

fact  is,  I  have  participated  in  28  decisions  while 

3 

reasons  why  a  board  or  this  board  might  reverse  an 

3 

sitting  at  PERB.    Five  of  those  were  administrative. 

4 

administrative  law  judge's  decision.   One  of  those  would 

4 

I  --  We  granted  the  request  to  withdraw  an  appeal. 

5 

be  based  on  legal  reasons.    For  example,  that  we 

5 

Of  the  remainder  23,  11  of  those  appeals  that 

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disagree  with  the  application  or  interpretation  of  the 

6 

came  before  me  were  actual  appeals  of  an  administrative 

7 

law. 

7 

law  judge  decision,  and,  Senator,  when  you  look  at  those 

8 

In  the  case  of  Omnitrans,  this  is  a  perfect 

8 

cases,  that's  where  it  can  be  found. 

9 

example,  and  this  was  cited  by  Mr.  Low  as  well,  the 

9 

I  have  ruled  in  favor  of  labor  the  same  amount 

10 

administrative  law  judqe  applied  the  McPherson  case  in 

10 

of  times  that  I've  ruled  in  favor  of  the  employer,  four 

11 

this  particular  instance.   The  McPherson  case  deals 

11 

times  each;  and  I  ruled  in  favor  of  both  or  against 

12 

specifically  with  retaliation.   This  was  a  unilateral 

12 

both,  if  you  will,  three  times.   And,  again,  it's  not  "I 

13 

change  charge.   The  board  disagreed  with  the  application 

13 

ruled."   Senator  Aanestad  brought  up  a  good  point.    My 

14 

of  that  particular  case  to  this  set  of  circumstances. 

14 

colleagues.   We're  a  panel. 

15 

In  addition,  there  may  be  a  reason  based  on 

15 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Okay. 

16 

evidence.    For  example,  we  know  we're  not  all  perfect, 

16 

MS.  CALVILLO:    So  thank  you  very  much  for  the 

17 

and  there  may  be  a  discrepancy  in  the  testimony  in  the 

17 

opportunity. 

18 

record  which  we  pick  up  on. 

18 

SENATOR  CEDILLO:    I  know,  but  we're  reviewing 

19 

In  the  Omnitrans  case,  we  found  that  this 

19 

your  record. 

20 

was  —  we  found  because  the  MOU  was  silent  in  this 

20 

MS.  CALVILLO:    I  appreciate  that.    But  my 

21 

particular  instance,  that  we  relied  on  past  practice  for 

21 

record  shows  -- 

22 

the  termination  in  this  case. 

22 

SENATOR  CEDILLO:    Unless  you're  going  to  argue 

23 

So  there  are  a  couple  different  reasons  to 

23 

that  you  voted  distinctly  from  your  panel,  the  only 

24 

reverse  an  administrative  law  judge.    I  have  to  say  that 

24 

question  we  need  to  know  is:    Are  these  reflective  of 

25 

the  majority  of  my  decisions,  Senator,  have  been  to 

25 

your  policy? 

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1 

uphold  the  findings  of  the  administrative  law  judge.    We 

1 

MS.  CALVILLO:    No.   The  information  that  you 

2 

have  a  tremendous  pool  of  talent  at  PERB,  and  they  do  a 

2 

were  given,  they  are  not  reflective  of  my  policy. 

3 

great  job,  but  every  once  in  a  while  we  just  don't  see 

3 

SENATOR  CEDILLO:    Are  your  votes  consistent 

4 

eye  to  eye  on  issues.   And  that's  why  there's  a 

4 

with  the  decision  of  the  panel?   Are  you  saying  you 

5 

check-and-balance  procedure  established  at  PERB.   That's 

5 

voted  the  minority  or  you  voted  the  majority? 

6 

why  we're  there. 

6 

MS.  CALVILLO:    I  sided  with  the  majority,  but 

7 

And  to  be  honest  with  you,  PERB  doesn't  always 

7 

the  numbers  that  were  provided  to  you  are  incorrect. 

8 

keep  these  close  statistics,  but  very  loose  statistics 

8 

SENATOR  CEDILLO:   That's  separate,  but  -- 

9 

say  this  board  has  not  operated  differently  than 

9 

MS.  CALVILLO:    Yes,  Senator.    I  concurred  with 

10 

previous  boards  with  regards  to  the  reversal  of 

10 

my  colleagues  in  these  decisions. 

11 

administrative  law  judge  cases. 

11 

SENATOR  CEDILLO:    But  the  panel  is  not  here  for 

12 

SENATOR  CEDILLO:    In  this  expression  here,  the 

12 

review.   You're  here  for  review. 

13 

18  --  14  out  of  18  decisions,  which  is  about  80  percent, 

13 

MS.  CALVILLO:    No,  they  are  not,  but  the 

14 

eight  out  of  ten  decisions  you  vote  against  labor.   Are 

14 

decisions  I  concurred  with,  there  were  only  11  that 

15 

those  reversals? 

15 

dealt  with  an  administrative  law  judge  decision,  and  of 

16 

MS.  CALVILLO:   Thank  you,  Senator,  for  raising 

16 

those  --  that's  the  point  I'm  trying  to  make.    Me  and  my 

17 

that.    I  appreciate  it. 

17 

colleagues  did  support  labor  four  times,  as  we  did 

18 

There  seems  to  be  a  discrepancy  with  regards 

18 

employers.   That's  where  the  numbers  are  a  little  bit 

19 

to  numbers  floating  around,  and  I  will  tell  this 

19 

skewed. 

20 

Committee  that  I  have  never  spent  so  much  time  looking 

20 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Anything  else, 

21 

at  statistics  with  regards  to  how  it  applied  to  my 

21 

Senator  Cedillo? 

22 

particular  docket  than  I  have  in  preparation  for  this 

22 

SENATOR  CEDILLO:    I  think  you  asked  a  very  good 

23 

confirmation  hearing,  because  that's  not  my  job.    My  job 

23 

question  in  terms  of  looking  at  the  totality  of  the 

24 

is  not  to  keep  score.    My  job  is  to  look  at  the 

24 

record,  right.    First  of  all,  I  --  If  a  case  comes 

25 

evidence,  apply  case  law  and  precedence,  and  rule. 

25 

before  you  as  it  moves  through  an  appeal  process,  they 

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1  have  to  argue  that  there's  some  issue  here,  unless  there 

2  is  a  factual  error,  there's  a  mistake,  some  fraud,  if  in 

3  reviewing  the  case  there's  some  application  of  law  or 

4  practice,  you  look  to  that  point.    But  if  you  say  you're 

5  looking  at  this  de  novo,  you're  looking  at  this 

6  completely  new,  you're  somewhat  substituting.   It  seems 

7  like  a  redundancy.   You're  not  dealing  with  an 

8  appealable  issue.   You're  just  getting  a  second  look  at 

9  it,  you  disagree,  and  you  reverse  it  and  send  it  back. 

10  That  doesn't  seem  to  be  the  function  of  any  appeal 

11  process  as  things  move  up. 

12  Assuming  that's  the  case,  Senator,  you  had 

13  asked  the  question:    Even  if  you  are  looking  at  it  de 

14  novo,  then  there's  the  whole  question  of  the  totality  of 

15  the  circumstances  in  which  you  have  to  look  at  the 

16  precedent,  and  the  circumstances  that  a  union  leader 

17  gets  terminated  over  hours  difference,  and  how  does  that 

18  fit  within  the  totality  of  the  work  record. 

19  So  let's  assume  they  didn't  make  the  24-hour 

20  notice,  period.    Right.    Notice  came.   You  know,  let's 

21  say  he  just  didn't  make  the  notice  at  all.   Clearly, 

22  though,  there  seems  to  be  a  question  --  If  you're 

23  reviewing  the  record  and  you're  looking  at  it  new, 

24  there's  a  totality  you  have  to  look  at,  and  to  what 

25  extent  —  what  other  factors  were  involved  and  not 

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1  so  you  can  establish  that  technically,  it's  not 

2  protected  activity,  because  he  didn't  meet  the  hours. 

3  So  then  in  terms  of  the  decision,  you  have  to  then  look 

4  at  the  totality  of  the  circumstances,  to  the  merit  of 

5  the  response. 

6  MS.  CALVILLO:    Senator,  the  example  that  you 

7  just  provided,  just  a  generic  example  of  five  employees 

8  that  came  to  work  late  one  day,  and  one  happened  to  be 

9  the  union  president,  if  the  union  president  were  fired 

10  strictly  because  he  came  in  late  that  day  and  the  other 

11  five  employees  were  not  fired  for  coming  in  late  that 

12  day,  then  that  union  president  has  a  very  good  case  to 

13  show  that  there  was  — 

14  If  the  union  president  was  —  If  the  union 

15  president  was  late  because  he  was  conducting  union 

16  business,  he  was  conducting  a  meeting  and  he  was  late, 

17  and  the  other  employees  were  late  for  whatever  reason, 

18  they  weren't  in  the  union  meeting  -- 

19  SENATOR  CEDILLO:   Then  you  would  say  he's 

20  protected?   Evidence  of  union  activities. 

21  MS.  CALVILLO:    Because  we've  been  able  to 

22  establish  --  Again,  you  look  at  the  evidence.    If  you're 

23  able  to  establish  the  nexus  between  the  protected 

24  activity,  in  this  case,  a  union  president  conducting 

25  union  business  -- 

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1  simply  is  this  protected  activity.    So  you  make  an 

2  argument  this  is  not  protected  activity. 

3  But  what  other  factors  were  there  that 

4  terminates  a  employee,  and  particularly  an  employee  that 

5  is  obviously  noticed  as  the  union  leader/union  activist? 

6  Those  things  seem  to  bleed  right  into  each  other.    I 

7  don't  know  how  you  do  that. 

8  MS.  CALVILLO:    I  appreciate  your  comments, 

9  Senator. 

10  Again,  PERB  has  a  specific  jurisdiction,  and  we 

11  have  to  determine,  in  the  retaliation  cases,  that  there 

12  is  a  nexus  between  the  protected  activity  and  the 

13  adverse  action.   And  if  we  can't  find  protected 

14  activity,  then  it's  outside  of  our  jurisdiction  to  rule 

15  whether  or  not  they  took  appropriate  disciplinary  action 

16  against  their  employer. 

17  SENATOR  CEDILLO:    But  isn't  appropriateness  of 

18  the  discipline  a  factor  in  determining  --  I'll  say  to 

19  you,  the  appropriateness  of  the  discipline  is  a  factor 

20  in  determining  retaliation. 

21  So,  for  example,  five  employees  come  late,  and 

22  four  employees  are  given  a  warning,  and  the  union 

23  activist  is  fired.   You  cannot  say  that,  then,  this  is 

24  not  a  retaliation.    So  you  have  to  look  at  those  --  the 

25  totality  of  that.    So  while  it  may  not  be  technically  -- 

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1  SENATOR  CEDILLO:    What  are  the  factors  that  you 

2  look  at  in  that  circumstance  to  enter  into  that 

3  discussion?   Is  it  disparate  treatment?   Let  me  say 

4  this:    What  you're  telling  me  is  that  it  is  the 

5  disparate  treatment  that  triggers  a  consideration  of 

6  retaliation;  is  that  correct? 

7  MS.  CALVILLO:   That  is  one  of  the  trigger 

8  points. 

9  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    We  want  to  wrap  it  up. 

10  Finish  the  question.   Go  ahead,  Senator.    Move  it  along. 

11  All  right. 

12  SENATOR  CEDILLO:    So  there's  disparate 

13  treatment,  and  that  triggers  a  consideration  of  that, 

14  and  then  it's  the  disparate  treatment  that  triggers  it, 

15  because  it's  the  unfairness  of  the  discipline. 

16  So  five  people  come  in,  they're  late,  they  get 

17  a  warning.    Four  get  a  warning,  fifth  person  is  fired. 

18  That  triggers  disparate  treatment.   We  abhor  disparate 

19  treatment.    We  look  for  fairness  in  the  workplace.   And 

20  then  you  said  we've  got  to  find  out  why  that's  not  fair, 

21  and  then  he  argues,  "It's  not  fair.    I'm  a  union  rep, 

22  and  I'm  doing  union  activity." 

23  So  you  know  he's  a  union  rep,  and  he's  fired. 

24  But  if  you  apply  the  question  of  protected  activity  to 

25  the  appropriateness  of  the  notice  that  he  gave,  right  -- 

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1  and  this  is  the  question  you  were  going  back  to,  the 

2  substance  of  protection  of  union  activity,  and  then  if 
'  3  this  person  was  doing  this  but  didn't  give  notice  for 

:  4  that,  walked  away  from  the  work  site,  went  upstairs, 

|  5  went  downstairs,  didn't  give  the  24-hour  notice  or  the 

6  check-in  with  the  supervisor,  it's  no  less  protected 

7  activity,  and  it's  no  less  anti-union  activity  if  this 

i  8  person  is  fired  and  not  protected,  because  they  didn't 

9  comply  with  a  technical  requirement. 
HO  MS.  CALVILLO:    I  appreciate  what  you're  saying. 

11  I  apologize. 
i12  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Do  you  need  some  more 

13  water? 

14  MS.  CALVILLO:    I  have  some  water.    My  daughter 

15  gave  me  her  cold.   Children  do  that. 

16  Senator,  what  I  can  say  is  that  there  was  case 

17  law  in  the  Novato  case  that  actually  establishes  --  For 

18  the  purpose  of  establishing'  a  prima  facie  case  to  show 

19  that  nexus,  there's  a  test  we  apply  to  determine  that 

20  nexus.    So  we  apply  this  equally  to  each  and  every 

21  retaliation  that  comes  in.   They  have  to  meet  these 

22  nexus  factors. 

23  So  if  somebody  can  show  that  there  has  been 

24  protected  activity  and  an  adverse  action  has  occurred, 

25  then  absolutely  the  board  is  going  to  rule  in  that 

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1  unique  human  being.   And  a  lot  of  the  response  that  I 

2  have  heard  is  around,  "Well,  we  had  this  technical  -- 

3  this  was  the  precedent,  or  we  had  --  This  was  a 

4  technical  thing  in  the  law  that  said  this." 

5  I  guess  what  I'm  wondering  about  is  where 

6  humanity  comes  into  it  relative  to  the  judgments  on  what 

7  is  fair  and  reasonable  to  a  reasonable  person, 

8  understanding  not  just  what  the  letter  of  the  law  is, 

9  because  it  reflects  a  set  of  principles  and  values, 

10  right?   I'm  so  sorry. 

11  MS.  CALVILLO:    Sorry. 

12  SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Not  just  what's  on  the 

13  written  page,  but  the  principles  and  values.   So  what 

14  I'd  like  to  ask  you  is:    How  you  view  yourself  as  a  -- 

15  MS.  CALVILLO:    I'm  sorry. 

16  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    You  know  what,  take  a 

17  break,  please. 

18  MS.  CALVILLO:   Thank  you. 

19  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Why  don't  you  -  Take  a 

20  break. 

21  MS.  CALVILLO:   Thank  you. 

22  (Recess  taken.) 

23  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    All  right.    We  will  come 

24  back  to  order. 

25  Senator  Oropeza. 

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manner,  as  I  have  in  two  and  a  half  of  the  other  cases. 
Two  and  a  half  of  five,  I  found  retaliation  did  occur. 
So  I  appreciate  your  point.    I'm  sorry. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Do  you  need  a  break?   Take 
a  break. 

MS.  CALVILLO:    I  think  I'll  be  all  right. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    She's  about  to  choke.    I 
don't  want  that  to  happen. 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:   We  don't  want  you  to  choke. 

MS.  CALVILLO:    I'm  okay. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    You  okay? 

MS.  CALVILLO:    Yeah. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Senator  Cedillo. 

SENATOR  CEDILLO:    Okay. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Okay.    Senator  Oropeza. 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    This  whole  conversation  has 
been  worrisome  to  me,  because  what  has  been  pointed  out 
is  that  there  are  shades  of  gray  and  judgment  that  must 
be  made.    Otherwise,  I  guess,  we  wouldn't  have  a  PERB. 
We  would  just  have  a  little  computer  that  would  put  in 
all  the  data  about  what  the  rules  are  and  what  the  laws 
are,  and  we'd  spit  out  a  response. 

So  you're  being  asked  to  continue  --  by  the 
governor  to  continue  on  this  board  to  use  your  brain,  to 
use  who  you  are  as  a  human  being,  what  you  bring  as  a 

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1  SENATOR  OROPEZA:    I  was  actually  sort  of 

2  closing  up  the  question.    Do  you  remember  what  I  was 

3  asking  you  about  so  I  don't  have  to  say  the  whole  thing 

4  all  over  again? 

5  MS.  CALVILLO:   You  were  asking  me  about  the 

6  humanity  as  I  began  to  choke. 

7  SENATOR  OROPEZA:    So  the  question  is  about  - 

8  Because  board  members  that  come  before  us,  or 

9  commissioners  or  whatever,  we  have  to  hold  them 

10  accountable  for  using  their  own  judgments,  their  own 

11  value  system.   Otherwise,  like  I  said,  we'd  be  doing  all 

12  this  by  computer. 

13  So  with  that  in  mind,  can  you  tell  me  how  you 

14  feel,  if  you  believe  that  you  are,  number  one,  expert 

15  enough  to  do  this,  because  your  background  is  so  broad, 

16  but  it  wasn't  really  in  the  labor  relations  area;  and, 

17  two,  if  you  feel  --  given  all  that  you  have  heard  today, 

18  if  you  feel  that  there  is  something  that  you  need  to 

19  re-think  about  how  you're  approaching  your  job. 

20  MS.  CALVILLO:    First  of  all,  the  question  you 

21  asked  is  how  do  I  feel  I  can  do  my  job,  because  I  do 

22  have  a  broad  background.    I'm  not  a  labor  law  expert.    I 

23  don't  pretend  to  be. 

24  Again,  each  of  our  cases  are  paneled  to  three 

25  board  members,  and  each  three  --  excuse  me  --  each  board 

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1  member  is  lucky  enough  to  have  a  legal  advisor  who  has  a 

2  very  strong  background  in  labor  law.   And  my  legal 

3  advisor,  who  is  here  today,  has  a  very  strong  background 

4  in  labor  law.    He's  actually  practiced  for  firms  that 

5  have  been  primarily  representing  labor  and  also  a  firm 

6  that  primarily  represents  management.    He  spent  time  at 

7  the  National  Labor  Relations  Board  as  well,  so  he's  got 

8  some  public-sector  experience  —  excuse  me  —  and  the 

9  Ag  Labor  Relations  Board  as  well,  so  both  of  those 

10  boards,  so  he  has  some  public-sector  experience  and 

11  labor  and  management. 

12  SENATOR  OROPEZA:   And  he's  been  there  from 

13  before  you  were? 

14  MS.  CALVILLO:    No.    He  came  on  board  when  I 

15  started.    But  he  has  done  a  tremendous  job  in  helping  me 

16  get  through  the  legal  analyses  and  ensuring  that  my 

17  cases  are  based  on  precedent,  on  case  law,  and  the 

18  evidence  is  there.   So  that's  how  I  can  do  my  job. 

19  Also,  with  the  great  work  of  my  colleagues  — 

20  Again,  we're  three  members  on  each  of  these  panels,  and 

21  a  decision  can  only  go  out  with  a  majority  vote,  so  we 

22  collectively  work  very  tirelessly  to  go  through  these 

23  cases.   And  in  some  instances,  we'll  deliberate  for 

24  quite  some  time,  because  there  aren't  always  --  we're 

25  not  always  on  the  same  page,  to  be  honest  with  you, 

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1  today  about  the  concerns  that  people  have  about  —  the 

2  specifics  in  the  case  and  also  some  general  things  about 

3  how  you  apply  whatever  facts  you  have,  is  there  anything 

4  that  you  have  learned  or  that  you  would  change  in  the 

5  way  you  approach  things,  or  that  you  want  to  take  a 

6  second  look  at,  or  anything  like  that? 

7  MS.  CALVILLO:   Well,  one  of  the  things  I 

8  believe  I  expressed  to  Senator  Steinberg  yesterday  in 

9  our  meeting  is  that  I  was  very  surprised  of  the  concerns 

10  that  were  levied  against  me.   I  didn't  know  they  were 

11  out  there.   And  I  appreciated  hearing  their  concerns, 

12  because  it  does  make  me  aware,  and  it  may  —  when  I  go 

13  for  future  cases,  because  certainly  I  can't  retry  cases 

14  that  we've  already  settled,  it's  in  the  past,  but  moving 

15  forward,  certainly,  I  will  take  those  issues  into 

16  consideration.   That's  part  of,  now,  my  thought  process. 

17  So  I  do  appreciate  the  concerns.   I  appreciate  hearing 

18  them.   I  won't  know  unless  they  are  brought  to  my 

19  attention.    So  certainly  — 

20  SENATOR  OROPEZA:    So  if  you  succeed  here  today 

21  getting  confirmed  or  recommended  for  confirmation,  we'll 

22  see  how  that  all  shakes  out  in  reality.   And  I  just  need 

23  to  tell  you  that  while  I'm  not  able  to  support  your 

24  appointment  today,  because  of  all  of  what  I've  heard,  I 

25  also,  you  know,  will  be  anxious  to  see  --  if  you 

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1  Senator,  so  we  do  the  very  best  that  we  can.    So  I  do 

2  feel  that  I'm  able  to  do  my  job. 

3  SENATOR  OROPEZA:    So  what  piece  do  you  put  into 

4  it?   You've  got  your  legal  advisor.    Where  do  you  fit  in 

5  terms  of  your  perspectives,  your  values? 

6  MS.  CALVILLO:    I  weigh  the  evidence.   Again,  I 

7  read  every  single  page  that  comes  before  me.   I  read  the 

8  record  for  that  page.   I'm  poring  through  the  testimony 

9  that's  been  provided;  I'm  poring  through  what  evidence 

10  has  been  presented;  I'm  poring  through  the  responses 

11  that  have  been  provided  with  regards  to  the  appeal,  what 

12  exactly  is  the  charge  being  appealed,  because  sometimes 

13  it's  not  the  entire  decision  they're  appealing,  maybe 

14  only  a  portion. 

15  I'm  reading  all  of  that,  I'm  listening  to  what 

16  my  advisor  is  saying,  and  I'm  making  a  determination 

17  based  on  that  information.    But  I've  got  enough 

18  real-world  experience  to  help  me  through  that  process, 

19  so  I  bring  that  experience  with  me  to  the  table. 

20  SENATOR  OROPEZA:   And  were  you  to  achieve  your 

21  ultimate  objective,  which  is  -- 

22  MS.  CALVILLO:    --  to  be  fair  and  impartial,  and 

23  to  be  neutral.   I  was  appointed  to  PERB  to  be  neutral 

24  and  to  protect  the  rights  of  employees  and  employers. 

25  SENATOR  OROPEZA:   And  given  what  you've  heard 

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1  prevail,  which  I  think  you  will  --  how  things  evolve  on 

2  this,  because  it  is  an  extremely  important  board  that 

3  you  serve  on.   This  is  where  the  rubber  hits  the  road 

4  for  workers  and  workers'  rights  and  being  treated  fair 

5  and  equitably  in  this  day,  and  it's  a  fundamentally 

6  important  board. 

7  MS.  CALVILLO:    I  agree  with  you. 

8  SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Which  is  why  we've  spent  so 

9  much  time  on  this. 

10  MS.  CALVILLO:    I  agree  with  you.   This  is  a 

11  very  important  job.    I  agree  with  you. 

12  SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Thank  you,  Mr.  Chair. 

13  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Senator  Dutton. 

14  SENATOR  DUTTON:   Just  to  be  real  brief,  and  I 

15  think  it's  more  in  the  form  of  a  statement  than  anything 

16  else,  because,  obviously,  today  we've  heard  a  lot  of 

17  concerns,  some  may  be  fact,  some  may  be  perception,  and 

18  that's  what's  really  a  problem,  because  fact  you  can 

19  dispute,  perception  you  can't. 

20  I  think  what  you  need  to  do,  just  like  any 

21  of  —  all  of  us,  you  need  to  evaluate  the  perception  and 

22  make  sure  the  concerns  are  met,  because,  obviously,  this 

23  board  is  --  provides  a  critical  function.    But  if  it 

24  ceases  to  be  of  value,  if  the  public  perception  is  -- 

25  the  perception  of  the  employees  are  that  they  don't  get 

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1  a  fair  hearing  here,  obviously,  there's  no  reason  for 

2  this  to  exist.    So  that  would  be  my  only  concern. 

3  This  may  turn  out  to  be  on  my  cut  list  if  it 

4  doesn't  get  a  better  reaction  from  the  employees, 

5  because,  obviously,  it's  not  doing  the  job. 

6  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   You  might  be  confirmed  but 

7  then  lose  your  job.   That's  eventually  the  message. 

8  MS.  CALVILLO:   I'd  like  to  take  it  one  day  at  a 

9  time. 

10  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    I  do  want  to  wait  for  just 

11  a  second  for  Senator  Cedillo  to  get  back,  if  we  know 

12  where  he  is.   We're  going  to  wait  just  ten  seconds,  and 

13  I'd  like  to  make  a  statement. 

14  Why  don't  you  make  the  closing  statement. 

15  MS.  CALVILLO:    I  was  going  to  say,  would  you 

16  like  me  to  provide  some  entertainment? 

17  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    No,  just  a  brief  closing 

18  statement. 

19  Senator  Oropeza,  I  think,  asked  a  really 

20  important  question,  because,  you  know,  this  is  our 

21  chance  --  This  is  the  separation  of  powers,  and  this  is 

22  our  chance  to  impress  upon  you  our  concerns  and  for 

23  you  to  take  that  in.    And  some  people  might  react  to  the 

24  difficult  questions  and  the  opposition  from  advocates  in 

25  a  real  negative  way  going  forward.    Sort  of  like,  How 

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1  I  must  say  after  participating  in  this  hearing, 

2  I  do  have  some  concerns,  and  I  think  my  concerns  are 

3  around  the  lack  of  clarity  in  terms  of  how  you  go  about 

4  approaching  decision-making,  aside  from  the  clear 

5  statement  that  you're  impartial,  which  I  believe,  and 

6  that  you  review  the  evidence. 

7  On  this  issue  of  retaliation,  you  know,  in  some 

8  ways  those  of  us  who  have  law  degrees  and  have  been 

9  practicing  lawyers,  we  like  to  think  this  is  a  big 

10  complicated  thing,  and  in  some  ways  it  really  isn't.   In 

11  some  ways  it  really  isn't,  because  the  question  is,  in  a 

12  retaliation  case,  whether  or  not  the  employer  fired  the 

13  employee  because  of  the  union  activity,  or  whether  the 

14  employee  was  a  bad  employee. 

15  So  it  seems  to  me  that  going  forward,  at  least, 

16  if  you're  confirmed,  there  needs  to  be  a  distinction 

17  between  somebody  who  gives  12  hours'  notice  instead  of 

18  24  hours'  notice  --  that  just  doesn't  seem  like  a  basis 

19  for  discipline  or  termination  to  me. 

20  Now,  if  this  same  employee  or  a  future  employee 

21  has  a  long  track  record  of  being  insubordinate,  or  never 

22  following  the  rules,  or  poor  performance,  then  it's 

23  arguable.    But  --  You  know,  we  cannot  let  the 

24  hyper-technicality  of  whether  this  was  a  protected 

25  activity  because  it  didn't  conform  to  the  exact  letter 

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1  dare  they? 

2  I'm  not  saying  that's  you,  but  I  want  to  know, 

3  for  one,  you  know,  how  do  you  take  criticism?   How  do 

4  you  take  constructive  criticism?   You've  handled  it  fine 

5  at  the  table. 

6  MS.  CALVILLO:    Thank  you. 

7  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    How  do  you  take  it  going 

8  forward?   And  this  is  your  closing. 

9  MS.  CALVILLO:    Senator,  I  was  going  to  say  as  a 

10  former  elected  official  myself,  having  run  for  office, 

11  I've  had  a  lot  of  criticism  in  my  day.   I  welcome 

12  criticism,  because  it  helps  us  all  become  a  better 

13  person. 

14  So  while  I  may  not  necessarily  be  happy  with 

15  it,  I  do  appreciate  that  there  are  differences  of 

16  opinion,  and  there  will  always  be  differences  of 

17  opinion.    But  I  appreciate  the  constructiveness  of 

18  what  can  be  said  to  help  us  all  improve. 

19  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Okay.   Thank  you. 

20  If  I  might  make  a  statement  here  in  terms  of 

21  where  I  come  down  on  this. 

22  First  of  all,  I  think  you've  impressed  me  as  a 

23  hard-working  person  and  as  a  person  of  integrity,  that 

24  you're  approaching  your  job  in  a  serious  way  and  that 

25  you're  doing  your  job  honestly. 

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1  of  the  notice  required  in  the  contract  rule  the  day. 

2  The  question  is:    Was  a  person  participating  in  union 

3  activity  fired  because  of  that  union  activity? 

4  So  if  there's  a  confirmation  here,  I  think  I'm 

5  going  to  implore  you  to  think  about  that  sort  of 

6  distinction  and  that  sort  of  clarity,  because  what  I 

7  heard  today,  with  all  respect  and  honesty,  didn't 

8  comfort  me  in  that  way.    It  just  didn't. 

9  And  then  on  the  other  hand,  I  do  think  you 

10  point  out  that  there  have  been  instances  in  your  time  on 

11  the  board  in  which  you  have,  in  fact,  ruled  in  favor  of 

12  the  union  or  the  employees  in  a  particular  retaliation 

13  case,  and  so  I  am  willing,  by,  really,  barest  of  margins 

14  here,  respectfully,  to  give  you  the  benefit  of  the 

15  doubt,  and  that  the  facts  presented,  while  very,  very 

16  important  and  not  sufficient,  given  the  fact  that  you  at 

17  least  can  demonstrate  you  have  ruled  on  behalf  of 

18  employees  on  a  couple  occasions,  and  that  you  do 

19  approach  your  job  seriously  and  work  very  hard,  aren't 

20  quite  enough  to  cross  that  line  for  me  to  say  "No"  to 

21  this  nomination. 

22  But  I  do  have  those  concerns,  and  I  hope  you 

23  take  the  constructive  criticism  and  the  opposition  to 

24  heart  in  the  most  positive  way,  not  to  feel  like  --  not 

25  to  feel  political  pressure.   You're  a  quasi  judicial 

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1  officer  --  but  to  understand  that  a  couple  of  these 

2  decisions  don't  make  sense  to  me,  and  I'm  a  former 

3  AU  myself,  and  that  retaliation  is  either  one  or  the 

4  other.   The  guy  is  either  a  poor  worker  and  is  fired  for 

5  that  reason  or  is  fired  because  of  union  activity.   And 

6  that  if  the  pretext,  if  you  will,  for  firing  a  person  is 

7  skim,  that  tells  you  something. 

8  Again,  termination  is  termination.   And  in 

9  these  cases,  we're  not  talking  about  people  who  were 

10  given  letters  of  reprimand,  I  don't  think.   They're 

11  fired  from  their  jobs.    So  I'm  willing  to  give  you  the 

12  benefit  of  the  doubt,  but  I  do  hope  you  hear  my 

13  sincerity  and  the  sincerity  of  the  advocates  here,  and 

14  that  you  think  about  that. 

15  With  that,  I'm  prepared  to  take  a  motion. 

16  SENATOR  AANESTAD:    So  moved. 

17  MS.  BROWN:    Senator  Cedillo. 

18  SENATOR  CEDILLO:    (Inaudible.) 

19  MS.  BROWN:    Dutton. 

20  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    That's  a  "No"  for 

21  Senator  Cedillo. 

22  Is  that  -- 

23  SENATOR  CEDILLO:   Yes.  That's  a  "No." 

24  MS.  BROWN:    Senator  Cedillo  no. 

25  Dutton. 


1  recognize  that  the  hour  is  late  and  — 

2  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Hold  on,  if  we  may.    I 

3  think  we  just  need  to  wait  a  second  for  people  to  clear 

4  the  room.    Here  we  go.    Mr.  Hoshino. 

5  MR.  HOSHINO:    Chairman  Steinberg,  Vice-Chairman 

6  Aanestad,  and  members,  it  is  an  honor  to  appear  before 

7  you  today  seeking  your  votes  for  approval  and  to  address 

8  any  questions  you  may  have  about  my  performance  as 

9  executive  officer  of  the  Board  of  Parole  Hearings. 

10  I  am  a  22-year  career  public  servant.   I  began 

11  my  service  as  a  student  intern  at  the  California  State 

12  Controller's  Office  in  1986.   I  worked  my  way  up  through 

13  the  civil  service  rank  and  served  in  a  number  of 

14  management  and  executive  leadership  positions.    Each 

15  position  provided  me  with  opportunities  and  experiences 

16  that  prepared  me  for  the  job  at  hand. 

17  Today  it  is  my  privilege  to  lead  the  500-plus 

18  dedicated  employees  at  the  Board  of  Parole  Hearings.   We 

19  solved  many  problems  in  our  position  for  more 

20  improvement  in  the  years  ahead. 

21  I  am  the  beneficiary  of  solid  support  from 

22  Governor  Schwarzenegger's  administration,  the  CDCR 

23  secretary,  and  the  hard-working  team  at  the  board 

24  itself.    I  am  also  the  beneficiary  of  support  from  the 

25  many  partners  and  stakeholders  involved  in  the  board's 

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1  SENATOR  DUTTON:    Aye. 

2  MS.  BROWN:    Dutton  aye. 

3  Oropeza. 

4  SENATOR  OROPEZA:    No. 

5  MS.  BROWN:    Oropeza  no. 

6  Aanestad. 

7  SENATOR  AANESTAD:    Aye. 

8  MS.  BROWN:    Senator  Aanestad  aye. 

9  Steinberg. 

10  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Aye. 

11  MS.  BROWN:    Steinberg  aye. 

12  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Passes  three  to  two,  will 

13  go  to  the  Senate  floor  on  Thursday.   That's  tomorrow. 

14  MS.  CALVILLO:    Thank  you  very  much. 

15  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you  very  much. 

16  Thank  you,  your  family,  and  thank  you  for  hanging  in 

17  there.   Appreciate  it. 

18  MS.  CALVILLO:    Thank  you. 

19  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Very  good. 

20  (Pause.) 

21  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Now  we  have  Martin 

22  Hoshino,  executive  officer  of  the  Board  of  Parole 

23  Hearings. 

24  Mr.  Hoshino,  welcome. 

25  MR.  HOSHINO:    Good  afternoon,  Mr.  Chairman.    I 

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1  operation. 

2  At  the  time  of  my  appointment  in  January  2008, 

3  it  was  clear  to  me  that  it  was  wasteful  and 

4  fundamentally  unfair  to  prisoners  and  to  all  hearing 

5  participants  to  allow  the  cycle  of  hearing  postponements 

6  and  hearing  backlogs  to  continue.   This  protracted 

7  problem  must  be  solved,  and  it  must  be  done  without 

8  compromising  the  already  high  level  of  performance 

9  occurring  in  the  board's  revocation  operations. 

10  By  developing  management  controls  and  retooling 

11  processes,  my  team  and  I  made  significant  progress  on 

12  these  major  issues.   The  cycle  of  postponed  lifer 

13  hearings  was  reduced  from  a  high  of  53  percent  to 

14  less  than  10  percent  at  the  close  of  October  --  excuse 

15  me  --  November. 

16  The  decade  of  backlogged  hearings  that  peaked 

17  last  year  at  approximately  1500  hearings  was  reduced 

18  to  577  hearings.    More  importantly,  those  577  backlogged 

19  hearings  are  currently  on  calendar  and  scheduled  to  be 

20  heard  by  June  of  2009.    Barring  any  abrupt  changes  to 

21  add  capacity  to  produce  hearings  or  other  unforeseen 

22  events,  we  expect  to  eliminate  this  backlog  under  the 

23  terms  of  the  court's  conditions. 

24  In  addition,  the  board  maintained  and  improved 

25  its  compliance  rate  with  parole  revocation  hearings  last 

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1  year.    For  the  roughly  95,000  hearings  conducted,  the 

i  2  board  was  on  time  96  percent  of  the  time. 

3  In  recognition,  the  Valdivia  court's  special 

i  4  master  is  determining  whether  the  State  is  in,  quote, 

5  substantial  compliance.    I  believe  this  signals  the 

6  beginning  of  the  end  of  this  14-year-old  litigation. 

7  Despite  the  progress,  significant  challenge 

8  remains.   The  State  faces  a  $40  billion  dollar  budget 

9  deficit.   The  board  operates  under  court  supervision  in 
j10  three  separate  class  actions.   The  board  is  30  days  into 

11  the  implementation  of  Proposition  9. 

12  This  coming  year  will  be  difficult,  but  I 

13  remain  steadfast  in  my  commitment  to  lead  the  Board  of 
■14  Parole  Hearings.   Subject  to  your  support  today,  I 

15  intend  to  lead  an  organization  that  is  focused  on  the 

16  State's  goal  of  a  long-term,  sustainable  rehabilitation- 

17  based  corrections  system  that  protects  public  safety  and 

18  treats  prisoners  and  parolees  fairly.   If  I  had  just  one 

19  vision  for  the  board  tomorrow  to  share  with  you  today, 

20  it  would  be  that  we  plan  and  control  our  future  and  not 

21  be  litigated  into  it. 

22  Thank  you  for  your  consideration  today. 

23  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you.    Well,  we  don't 

24  file  lawsuits.   Okay.   I  have  some  questions,  but  any 

25  questions  from  members  at  this  point.   I  got  a  few. 

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1  three-year  denial.   Why  don't  we  go  with  those  three. 

2  MR.  HOSHINO:    That  was  four,  Senator,  but  I'll 

3  consolidate  two  of  those. 

4  Proposition  9  was  large  and  sweeping.   It  not 

5  only  affected  the  board's  procedures,  which  I'll  get  to, 

6  it  also  went  down  to  the  streets  and  the  courtrooms  of 

7  California.   But  suffice  it  to  say  it  did  change 

8  significantly  some  of  the  operating  procedures  by 

9  which  we  conduct  our  hearings  at  the  Board  of  Parole 

10  Hearings,  within  both  major  parts  of  our  operation,  not 

11  only  with  respect  to  revocation  hearings  but  also  lifer 

12  hearings. 

13  And  the  latter  part  of  your  question  talked 

14  about  lifer  hearings  in  terms  of  --  I  promise  I  will  get 

15  to  that. 

16  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Okay. 

17  MR.  HOSHINO:    Proposition  9  had  major 

18  provisions,  and  I'll  talk  to  the  ones  that  affected  the 

19  Board  of  Parole  Hearings.    I  categorize  them  in  those 

20  two  or  three  major  areas,  which  are  organizational 

21  changes,  which  is  not  getting  a  lot  of  focus  from  a  lot 

22  of  folks.  There  is  the  area  having  to  do  with 

23  revocation  hearings  and  the  timeliness  and  the  provision 

24  of  attorneys  related  to  that. 

25  There  is,  then,  also  lots  of  noticing 

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1  SENATOR  AANESTAD:    Family  or  friends. 

2  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    I'm  sorry.   Thank  you  very 

3  much,  Senator  Aanestad. 

4  Do  you  have  families  and  friends  you'd  like  to 

5  introduce? 

6  MR.  HOSHINO:    Just  one.    My  best  friend  and  my 

7  wife  of  16  years  is  the  same  person,  Heidi  Hoshino. 

8  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Welcome  to  you. 

9  MRS.  HOSHINO:    Thank  you. 

10  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Thank  you  for  being  here. 

11  Thank  you  for  your  husband's  public  service. 

12  I  want  to  go  into  one  area  here  —  I  think  we 

13  can  keep  this  relatively  brief  —  and  that  is  the 

14  passage  of  Proposition  9,  otherwise  known  as  Marsy's 

15  Law. 

16  Can  you  —  I'll  ask  this  question  in  five  parts 

17  to  expedite.   I  can  go  back  over  them. 

18  Brief  overview  of  Prop  9  as  it  affects  your 

19  board.   You've  been  implementing  the  law  for  about  a 

20  month  now.   We  want  your  assessment  of  how  that 

21  implementation  is  going.   There's  been  significant 

22  concern  raised  about  the  length  of  denials  now  for  those 

23  who  are  serving  life  sentences,  and  what  steps  your 

24  board  is  taking  to  discern  the  appropriateness  of  a 

25  15-year  denial  rather  than  a  ten,  seven,  five,  or 

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1  requirements,  lots  of  hearing  changes  and  denial 

2  schedules,  which  most  people  are  most  concerned  about, 

3  having  to  do  with  the  denial  schedule  related  to  life 

4  prisoners. 

5  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    What  does  that  mean? 

6  MR.  HOSHINO:    If  I  could,  just  taking  and 

7  setting  aside  the  organizational  and  the  revocation 

8  portions  for  a  moment,  because  those  portions,  the 

9  implementation  of  which  has  been  staid  by  court  action 

10  in  the  federal  court,  so  we  are  not  implementing  those 

11  provisions  today. 

12  There  is  a  hearing  scheduled  for  March  9th  for 

13  which  the  court  will  hear  the  matter  and  make  decisions 

14  about  what  elements  can  and  cannot  go  forward.   I 

15  presume  because  there  is  a  famous  injunction,  which  the 

16  name  --  which  is  Valdivia,  that  is  controlling  how  we 

17  conduct  that  process  today. 

18  The  part  that  we  are  able  to  implement  are  the 

19  parts  on  the  lifer  side,  and  we  have  done  a  rather 

20  extensive  communication  roll-out  related  to  that.   We 

21  have  a  public  board  that  has  public  meetings,  and  we  can 

22  pass  a  lot  of  information  through  that  particular 

23  process  starting  in  October,  also  in  November,  and  then 

24  a  week-long  public  meeting  and  training  session  for 

25  commissioners  and  deputy  commissioners. 

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1  With  respect  to  the  length  of  denial,  Marsy's 

2  Law  made  a  very  significant  change  in  that  respect,  and 

3  that  change  in  that  respect  is  the  prior  schedule  by 

4  which  an  inmate  receives  a  denial  used  to  be  one,  two, 

5  three,  four,  or  five  years. 

6  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   What  were  they  denied?   A 

7  hearing? 

8  MR.  HOSHINO:   Yes.   In  the  hearing,  if  I  can 

9  take  you  one  step  back,  a  life-term  prisoner  will  come 

10  up  for  a  question  of  parole  suitability,  and  whether 

11  they  will  be  returned  to  the  community  or  whether  they 

12  need  to  remain  incarcerated  and  work  on  factors  of 

13  suitability  in  order  to  gain  their  freedom. 

14  The  commissioner  will  make  a  determination, 

15  suitable  or  unsuitable.   That  determination  and  the 

16  rules  and  the  criteria  for  that  determination  did  not 

17  change  under  Marsy's  Law.   What  did  change  is  if  a 

18  commissioner  makes  a  determination  of  unsuitability, 

19  what  did  change  is  the  denial  schedule,  which  previously 

20  was  a  one-year  denial,  a  two-year,  three-year,  four- 

21  year,  five  years,  and  it  changed  it  to  fifteen  years, 

22  ten  years,  seven  years,  five  years,  and  three  years.   So 

23  there's  still  five  choices,  but  the  denial  periods 

24  lengthened. 

25  And  the  reason  I  gave  it  to  you  in  the  sequence 

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1  reasonable  doubt,  and  having  a  body  of  law  and 

2  instructions  related  to  that  that  was  provided  to 

3  the  commissioner  so  that  they  could  apply  a  new  denial 

4  schedule. 

5  The  method  by  which  they  would  make  a 

6  determination  inside  the  seven,  five,  three  range 

7  relatively  remained  unchanged.   The  regulations  in 

8  Title  15  that  we  have  on  the  books  already  provide  for 

9  them  the  discretion  to  ascribe  relative  weight  to 

10  factors  of  suitability  and  unsuitability.   The 

11  prisoner's  progress,  the  availability  of  programming  so 

12  they  can  meaningfully  and  reasonably  make  that  progress 

13  and  be  able  to  demonstrate  it  at  the  next  hearing. 

14  So  while  there's  always  some  variation  in 

15  there,  Proposition  9  did  not  change  the  method  by  which 

16  they  would  do  that,  so  that  was  made  clear  with  respect 

17  to  the  training.   But  suffice  it  to  say  we  are  trying  to 

18  pay  attention  to  the  amount  of  variation  that's  going 

19  on. 

20  I  can  tell  you  now,  30  days  into  it,  having 

21  explained  what  we  believe  to  be  the  changes,  having 

22  provided  the  training  and  dispatched  the  commissioners 

23  in  the  field,  we  are  in  real  time  watching  what  the 

24  decisions  are  that  are  coming  out  of  that,  that  we  could 

25  look  for  particular  patterns. 

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1  of  fifteen,  ten,  seven,  five,  and  three  is  Marsy's  Law 

2  also  flipped  the  schedule.   And  in  this  respect,  it 

3  requires  the  commissioners,  on  determination  of 

4  unsuitability,  to  start  at  fifteen  years,  and  then  to 

5  apply  an  evidentiary  standard  of  clear  and  convincing 

6  evidence.   And  having  found  clear  and  convincing 

7  evidence  that  a  fifteen-year  denial  is  not  warranted,  a 

8  commissioner  now  steps  it  down  to  a  ten-year  denial, 

9  again  applying  a  clear  and  convincing  evidence  standard, 

10  and  then  having  found  clear  and  convincing  evidence  that 

11  a  ten-year  denial  is  not  warranted,  they  are  now  in  a 

12  discretionary  zone  of  seven,  five,  and  three.    But  it 

13  doesn't  --  You  don't  have  the  same  precedential  scaling 

14  down  of  seven,  five,  three.   You're  making  a  choice 

15  between  those  three  particular  terms. 

16  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    How  are  you  training 

17  commissioners  on  that  change? 

18  MR.  HOSHINO:   The  training  is  -  After  it 

19  passed,  we  brought  them  to  Sacramento  for  their 

20  week-long  training,  and  we  essentially  laid  it  out  the 

21  way  I  described  it  to  you.   We  provided  them  the 

22  evidentiary  standard,  because  that  was  new.    Prior  to 

23  that  we  were  using  a  preponderance  of  evidence  standard, 

24  clear  and  convincing  being  a  standard  that  is  higher, 

25  that  standard  more  than  preponderance,  less  than 

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1  It's  difficult  to  talk  about  trend,  because  we 

2  haven't,  what  I  would  consider,  completed  an  entire 

3  cycle  of  hearings.   And  what  I  mean  "cycle"  --  what  I 

4  describe  for  that  is  that  there  are  hearings  going  on 

5  across  the  state  at  different  institutions,  at  different 

6  levels  of  classification  and  security.    So  it  would  be 

7  almost  premature,  after  30  days,  I  think,  to  make  a 

8  judgment  that  this  is  the  way  it's  coming  out  with 

9  respect  to  Marsy's  Law  in  terms  of  all  of  the  outcomes. 

10  We  may  not  have  covered  all  of  the  level  one,  two, 

11  three,  four  level  institutions  which  have  different 

12  categories  and  different  types  of  life  prisoners.   So 

13  when  those  cycles  close  off,  I  think  -- 

14  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    You'll  be  able  to  evaluate 

15  it.   It's  something  you're  looking  at. 

16  MR.  HOSHINO:    And  make  adjustments. 

17  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Okay.    Very  good. 

18  Questions  from  members?   I'm  sorry. 

19  SENATOR  AANESTAD:    How  many  of  your 

20  commissioners  are  going  to  be  up  for  confirmation 

21  hearings  this  year? 

22  MR.  HOSHINO:    Eleven  of  the  twelve,  Senator. 

23  SENATOR  AANESTAD:    Eleven  of  the  twelve.    Does 

24  that  mean  eleven  of  the  twelve  have  been  there  less  than 

25  one  year? 

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MR.  HOSHINO:    Some  of  them,  because  they  have 
status,  have  been  there  longer,  but  I  think  the  majority 
of  the  commissioners  have  been  here  for  less  than  a 
year.   It  might  be  six,  it  might  be  seven. 

Am  I  incorrect? 

MS.  SABELHAUS:    Some  have  been  reappointed. 

MR.  HOSHINO:    Yes,  but  I  believe  we  at  least 
put  six  on  the  books  last  year,  so  there  will  be  six  up, 
and  the  appointments  director  may  correct  me  on  that. 

I  know  the  number  is  eleven  between  now  and 
June  of  this  year.   So  I'm  very  focused  on  June, 
because,  again,  we  calendared  these  hearings.   I  think 
we're  in  a  position  to  be  in  a  very  good  place  in  June 
with  respect  to  the  Rutherford  litigation. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you. 

Witnesses  in  support. 

MR.  WARREN:    Good  afternoon.    My  name  is 
David  Warren.   I'm  appearing  on  behalf  of  Taxpayers  for 
Improving  Public  Safety. 

In  light  of  your  comments  to  remain  brief,  I'll 
limit  it  to  we  are  supporting  the  nominee,  although  I 
have  some  trepidation  because  of  the  burden  being  placed 
on  his  wife,  because  the  guy  works  24  hours  a  day.    But 
we  have  noticed  some  major  improvements  in  the 
administrative  aspects  of  the  Board  of  Parole  Hearings, 

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1  afterwards. 

2  We,  the  attorneys  that  I  work  for  and  myself, 

3  wholeheartedly  support  Martin  Hoshino  for  this  position, 

4  because  we've  noticed,  first  of  all,  a  great  improvement 

5  in  accessibility  to  his  staff,  to  get  legal  and 

6  administrative  problems  resolved,  and  he  seems  to  have 

7  the  talent  and  background  to  do  it. 

8  He  certainly  can't  be  blamed  for  the  problems 

9  that  he  inherited,  and  there's  probably  one  or  two  of 

10  those  problems  that  he's  powerless  to  resolve  because  of 

11  a  problem  that  exists  with  the  board  that  he  can't 

12  control.    But  for  all  other  things,  I  believe  he  is  the 

13  answer  to  resolve  the  majority  of  the  problems  that  this 

14  committee  has  struggled  with  over  the  last  few  years. 

15  Lastly,  and  this  is  something  that  won't  come 

16  up  until  you're  your  facing  confirmation  of 

17  commissioners,  which  Mr.  Hoshino  doesn't  have  control 

18  over,  one  of  the  major  problems  that  the  Committee,  I 

19  would  like  to  think  about  in  the  future,  is  that  the 

20  board  now  consists  of  nine  commissioners,  all  with 

21  law-enforcement  backgrounds  or  peace  officers,  which  is 

22  in  violation  of  the  Penal  Code  Section  5075  which 

23  requires  the  governor  to  appoint  and  this  Committee  to 

24  confirm  a  commissioner  that  represents  a  cross-section 

25  of  the  community  in  gender,  in  employment,  and  in  all 

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and  it  is  solely  on  the  basis  of  his  admission. 

One  of  the  questions  I  would  request  the 
members  to  address  on  Prop  9  and  its  impact  on  the 
parole  hearings  is  the  change  where  an  unlimited  number 
of  individuals  can  now  participate  on  behalf  of  the 
victim  to  testify  against  the  inmate's  parole  hearing, 
and  the  prohibition  for  his  counsel  or  the  parole 
nominee  to  ask  any  questions  about  that.   The  burden  of 
being  placed  --  These  large  number  of  individuals  coming 
into  very  small  spaces  in  correctional  facilities 
diverts  correctional  staff  from  otherwise  important 
tasks.   Thank  you. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you,  Mr.  Warren. 
Other  witnesses  in  support. 

MR.  MILLER:    Good  afternoon.    My  name  is 
Donald  Miller.    I'm  speaking  on  behalf  of  myself.   I'm  a 
legal  consultant,  and  I  work  for  eight  attorneys,  many 
of  whom  do  parole  hearings.   And  my  work  is  in 
litigation  in  cases  in  court  following  denial  of 
parole  by  the  board,  by  the  governor.   Approximately 
40  life  prisoners  who  have  been  denied  parole  on  cases 
we've  worked  have  been  set  free  by  the  courts. 

I'm  not  a  lawyer.   I  obtained  my  law  degree 
while  doing  a  life  sentence  under  the  jurisdiction  of 
the  parole  board  through  my  time  in  prison,  parole,  and 

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1  other  respects. 

2  So  having  said  that,  I  hope  the  Committee  will 

3  focus  on  that  in  the  future,  but  we  fully  support 

4  Mr.  Hoshino.    He  is  the  man  who  has  already  started  to 

5  resolve  some  of  these  problems. 

6  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you  very  much  for 

7  your  testimony. 

8  Are  there  witnesses  in  opposition  of  the 

9  nominee? 

10  Let  me  ask  one  other  question,  and  then  we'll 

11  have  somebody  move  the  nomination.   Our  staff  here  has 

12  had  a  difficult  time  getting  the  answer  to  an  important 

13  question,  and  that  is  whether  or  not  there's  actual 

14  programming  for  so-called  lifers',  rehabilitation 

15  programs  for  lifers  who  have  more  than  three  years  left 

16  before  they're  likely  to  be  released.   Could  you  clarify 

17  that  for  all  of  us,  please. 

18  MR.  HOSHINO:    It's  a  question  we  are  also 

19  seeking  an  answer  for  at  the  board.   We  have  been 

20  impressing  upon  the  commissioners  wherever  and  whenever 

21  they  can  get  the  information  from  the  actual  institution 

22  that  they're  at  when  they  have  time  to  seek  it  out, 

23  because  we  think  local  availability  of  information  is 

24  best. 

25  We  have  made  requests  from  the  part  of  the  CDCR 

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that  controls  that  program  beyond  some  of  those  you 

1 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Senator  Oropeza  moves. 

2 

requested.   We've  had  some  high-level  presentations.   I 

2 

Please  call  the  roll. 

3 

do  believe  their  program  is  in  a  state  of  flux. 

3 

MS.  BROWN:    Senator  Cedillo. 

4 

Nevertheless,  we  were  able  to  get  an  inventory  from  them 

4 

SENATOR  CEDILLO:    Aye. 

5 

in  December  of  last  year,  I  believe,  of  what  was 

5 

MS.  BROWN:    Cedillo  aye. 

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available. 

6 

Dutton. 

7 

And  I  was  lucky  enough  to  actually  meet  a 

7 

SENATOR  DUTTON:   Aye. 

8 

provider  of  programming,  Prison  Focused  Insight,  and 

8 

MS.  BROWN:    Senator  Dutton  aye. 

9 

there's  a  woman  named  Jaime  Carroll,  who  I  invited  to 

9 

Oropeza. 

10 

come  to  the  next  board  meeting,  which  will  be  next  week, 

10 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Aye. 

11 

and  make  a  presentation.   I  happened  to  meet  it  and  get 

11 

MS.  BROWN:    Oropeza  aye. 

12 

lucky  and  see  it,  and  what  struck  me  about  it  was  that 

12 

Aanestad. 

13 

they  were  specifically  talking  about  life-term  inmates 

13 

SENATOR  AANESTAD:    Aye. 

14 

that  were  in  this  particular  program.   So  it  was 

14 

MS.  BROWN:    Aanestad  aye. 

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noteworthy  for  me  and  impressed  upon  me. 

15 

Steinberg. 

16 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    How  long  before  you  might 

16 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Aye. 

17 

get  back  to  us  with  a  little  more  comprehensive  answer? 

17 

MS.  BROWN:    Steinberg  aye. 

18 

MR.  HOSHINO:    I'm  sure  before  the  week  is  out. 

18 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you  very  much.   All 

19 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Before  the  week  is  out. 

19 

right.   We  will  now  go  into  executive  session. 

20 

Okay.   Thank  you. 

20 

No.   I'm  sorry.   We've  got  a  number  of 

21 

All  right.    Mr.  Hoshino,  by  all  accounts  and  by 

21 

gubernatorial  appointees  subject  to  confirmation  but  not 

22 

your  testimony  here  today,  you're  obviously  a  committed 

22 

required  to  appear. 

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public  servant  and  an  excellent  nominee,  and  I'm  ready 

23 

We  have  Richard  Figueroa,  member  of  the  Managed 

24 

to  support  you  today.    But  I  want  to  make  the  statement 

24 

Risk  Medical  Insurance  Board;  John  McGinness,  member  of 

25 

in  general  that  my  predecessor  in  this  job  really  placed 

25 

the  Commission  on  Peace  Officer  Standards  and  Training; 

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a  priority  on  scrutinizing  appointees  made  by  the 

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Gil  Van  Attenhoven,  member  of  the  Commission  on  Peace 

2 

governor  when  it  comes  to  Corrections,  and  we're  going 

2 

Officer  Standards  and  Training;  James  B.  Hussey,  member 

3 

to  continue  with  that  scrutiny. 

3 

of  the  State  Bar  Board  of  Governors;  Edward  Olson, 

4 

I  know  there  are  a  whole  host  of  appointees 

4 

member  of  the  Cal  Veterans  Board;  Thomas  Richards, 

5 

that  are  due  to  come  before  this  Rules  Committee  over 

5 

member  of  the  Cal  Veterans  Board;  and  Cynthia  L. 

6 

the  course  of  the  next  year.   We  spend  way  too  much 

6 

Dellums,  member  of  the  Commission  on  the  Status  of 

7 

money  in  this  area,  and  to  expect  anything  less  than, 

7 

Women. 

8 

frankly,  the  kind  of  performance  you're  exhibiting  will 

8 

Are  there  a  few  that  you're  not  prepared  to 

9 

make  no  sense  to  the  State  legislature.   We  want  people 

9 

support,  Senator  Dutton? 

10 

who  focus  on  reform,  we  want  people  focused  on 

10 

SENATOR  DUTTON:   Yes,  items  2D  and  2J. 

11 

efficiency,  and  we  want  folks  who  can  give  quick  answers 

11 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Okay.    If  we  can  take  a 

12 

and  appropriate  answers  and  full  answers  to  the 

12 

motion  on  items  2E,  F,  G,  H,  and  I,  we'll  take  those 

13 

legislature  when  it  comes  to  our  oversight  of  this 

13 

first.    Moved  by  Senator  Dutton. 

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still-troubled  department. 

14 

Please  call  the  roll  on  those  nominees. 

15 

It  should  be  of  great  embarrassment  to  all  of 

15 

MS.  BROWN:    Senator  Cedillo. 

16 

us  that  we're  under  the  jurisdiction  of  a  federal 

16 

SENATOR  CEDILLO:    Aye. 

17 

receiver  here.   And  that's  not  anybody's  fault  in 

17 

MS.  BROWN:    Cedillo  aye. 

18 

particular.    It's  --  you  know,  I  say  all  of  us.   And  so 

18 

Dutton. 

19 

this  is  going  to  be  a  core  piece  of  our  work  with  the 

19 

SENATOR  DUTTON:   Aye. 

20 

Rules  Committee  to  make  sure  we  have  in  place  people  -- 

20 

MS.  BROWN:    Dutton  aye. 

21 

not  only  with  the  Board  of  Parole  Hearings,  but 

21 

Oropeza. 

22 

throughout  the  entire  department  that  are  focused  on 

22 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Aye. 

23 

reform  and  fixing  these  multitude  of  problems. 

23 

MS.  BROWN:    Oropeza  aye. 

24 

So  I'll  take  a  motion. 

24 

Aanestad. 

SENATOR  AANESTAD:    Aye. 

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SENATOR  OROPEZA:    I'll  move. 

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2  Steinberg. 

3  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Aye. 

4  MS.  BROWN:    Steinberg  aye. 

,5                     CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    All  right.   Those  will  go 

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Reporter  of  the  State  of  California,  do  hereby  certify 
that  I  am  a  disinterested  person  herein;  that  the 
foregoing  transcript  of  the  Senate  Rules  Committee 
hearing  was  reported  verbatim  in  shorthand  by  me, 

6     to  the  floor. 

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INA  C.  LeBLANC,  a  Certified  Shorthand  Reporter  of  the 

7                     With  regard  to  Richard  Figueroa,  is  there  a 

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State  of  California,  and  thereafter  transcribed  into 

-8     motion  on  Mr.  Figueroa? 

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typewriting. 

9                      SENATOR  OROPEZA:    I  move. 

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I  further  certify  that  I  am  not  of  counsel  or 

0  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Senator  Oropeza. 

1  Please  call  the  roll. 

2  MS.  BROWN:    Senator  Cedillo. 

3  SENATOR  CEDILLO:    Aye. 

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attorney  for  any  of  the  parties  to  said  hearing,  nor  in 
any  way  interested  in  the  outcome  of  said  hearing. 

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JOHN  CHALKER,  Chair 
BOB  ALVARADO,  Vice  Chair 
LUCETTA  DUNN 
JAMES  EARP 
DARIO  FROMMER 
JAMES  C.  GHIELMETTI 
CARL  GUARDINO 
R.  K.  LINDSEY 
PHILLIP  H  TAGAMI 
JOSEPH  TAVAGLIONE 
LARRY  ZARIAN 

SENATOR  ALAN  LOWENTHAL,  Ex  Officio 
ASSEMBLYMAN  MIKE  ENG,  Ex  Officio 


STATE  OF  CALIFORNIA 


ARNOLD  SCHWARZENEGGER 

GOVERNOR 


Sesate  Rules  Committee 

DEC  2  9  2008 
Appointments 


JOHN  F  BARNA  JR.,  Executive  Director 


CALIFORNIA  TRANSPORTATION  COMMISSION 


1120  N  STREET,  MS-52 

P.  O.  BOX  942873 

SACRAMENTO.  94273-0001 

FAX  (916)  653-2134 

(916)654-4245 

http://www.catc.ca.gov 


December  23,  2008 


Ms.  Nettie  Sabelhaus 

Senate  Rules  Committee  Appointments  Director 

State  Capitol,  Room  420 

Sacramento,  C A  95814 

Dear.  Ms.  Sabelhaus: 

I  am  pleased  to  provide  a  response  to  the  following  questions  for  my  upcoming  confirmation  hearing  for 
re-appointment  to  the  California  Transportation  Commission.  Also  enclosed  please  find  my  Form  700  as 
requested. 

Proposition  IB 

1.  What  have  been  some  of  the  greatest  challenges  in  implementing  Proposition  IB?  Do  you  have 

any  suggestions  for  statutory  changes  related  to  Proposition  IB  or  future  infrastructure  bond 
legislation? 

The  California  Transportation  Commission's  (Commission)  greatest  challenge  has  been  to  fulfill 
its  promise  to  implement  Proposition  IB  programs  under  its  purview  thoughtfully  and 
expeditiously.  At  the  close  of  2008,  the  Commission  had  adopted  guidelines,  established 
application  processes,  approved  project  evaluation  criteria,  held  public  hearings  and  developed 
baseline  agreements  for  eight  of  nine  bond  programs  it  is  responsible  for;  and  approved  more 
than  $10.6  billion  in  projects.  In  December  2008,  the  Commission  adopted  guidelines  for  the  last 
remaining  program,  the  State-Local  Partnership  Program,  with  program  adoption  (project 
approval)  expected  in  April  2009. 

In  2009  and  beyond,  the  challenge  will  be  delivering  these  projects.  The  longer  the  budget  deficit 
is  allowed  to  linger,  the  more  difficult  the  atmosphere  becomes  for  issuing  transportation  bonds, 
let  alone  other  types  of  infrastructure  bonds.  Given  the  state's  precarious  cash  position,  lack  of 
bond  proceeds  may  result  in  the  Commission  re-evaluating  how  much  Proposition  IB  funding  can 
be  allocated  for  the  balance  of  the  2008-09  year,  and  beyond. 

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Proposition  IB  infrastructure  projects,  along  with  other  transportation  projects,  require  funding 
from  a  variety  of  sources,  including  state  funds  such  as  the  State  Transportation  Improvement 
Program,  and  federal  and  local  funds.  When  state  funding  sources  are  suspended,  projects  must 
be  delayed,  or  if  available,  other  funding  sources  need  to  be  used  to  keep  the  projects  going.  This 
has  a  domino  effect  with  the  Department  of  Transportation  (Caltrans)  and  regional  agencies 
taking  funding  from  one  project  to  complete  another  delaying  the  project  that  the  funding  was 
originally  committed  to. 

In  its  2006  and  2007  annual  reports  the  Commission  recommended  that  the  Legislature  convene  a 
blue-ribbon  transportation  funding  task  force  to  examine  options  for  enhancing  transportation 
revenues  and  to  consider  additional  ways  to  raise  revenue.  An  added  impetus  to  establish  a 
dedicated,  special  funding  source  is  that  the  Federal  Highway  Trust  Fund  will  likely  not  have 
enough  resources  to  meet  all  of  its  obligations  by  the  end  of  the  decade.  Statutory  changes  to 
Proposition  IB  are  not  necessary.  What  is  necessary  is  stable,  reliable,  growing  funding  sources 
for  transportation  that  enable  project  sponsors  to  bring  their  projects  forward  for  Proposition  1 B 
funding. 

2.  Through  September  2008,  only  $97  million  of  the  $41 7  million  appropriated  to  the  CTCfor  the 

Trade  Corridor  Improvement  Fund  (TCIF)  had  been  allocated  to  projects.  Why  is  this  program 
moving  along  so  slowly?  What  needs  to  be  done  to  move  funds  "to  the  streets  "  more  quickly? 

In  its  program  adoption  actions  for  most  Proposition  IB  programs,  including  the  TCIF,  the 
Commission  mandated  that  bond  funding  be  limited  to  the  cost  of  construction  -  -  resulting  in  the 
back-loading  of  construction  funding.  This  mandate  ensures  bond  funds  are  only  expended  for 
physical  capital  improvements  with  quantifiable  benefits. 

In  keeping  with  the  5-year  time  frame  of  the  Corridor  Mobility  Improvement  Account  (CMIA) 
and  State  Route  99  (SR  99)  Corridor  programs,  the  Commission  also  required  that  projects  must 
begin  construction  by  December  31,  2013,  putting  a  premium  on  project  delivery. 

In  adopting  the  initial  TCIF  program,  the  Commission  directed  the  nominating  agencies  to 
provide  executed  Project  Baseline  Agreements  that  set  forth  the  proposed  project  scope, 
measurable  expected  performance  benefits,  delivery  schedule,  and  a  project  budget  and  funding 
plan.  For  investments  in  rail  projects,  the  Commission  required  that  the  project  baseline 
agreement  include  a  memorandum  of  understanding  between  the  private  railroad  and  the  regional 
transportation  planning  agency  and/or  Caltrans,  if  applicable. 

As  of  January  1,  2009,  the  Commission  had  approved  70  of  the  79  project  baseline  agreements. 
Several  of  the  remaining  agreements  consist  of  rail  projects  that  are  engaged  in  active 
negotiations.  The  bottom  line  is  that  projects  in  the  TCIF  are  not  as  far  along  in  their 
development  as  those  in  the  CMIA  program. 


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What  procedures  has  CTC  implemented  to  ensure  and  evaluate  project  delivery  after  bond  funds 
are  allocated?  Please  describe. 

The  Commission  put  forth  an  accountability  implementation  plan  that  incorporates  provisions 
from  Proposition  IB,  the  Governor's  Executive  Order  S-02-07,  and  Senate  Bill  (SB)  88.  The 
accountability  implementation  plan  emphasizes  transparency  and  accountability  throughout  the 
lifetime  of  a  project. 

In  its  programming  actions,  the  Commission  required  the  development  of  project  baseline 
agreements  that  are  signed  by  the  recipient  agency's  Executive  Director  and  the  Director  of 
Caltrans  Director,  and  for  some  programs  the  Commission's  Executive  Director.  The  baseline 
agreements  set  forth  the  agreed  upon  project  scope,  schedule,  cost  and  expected  benefits.  These 
agreements  also  include  the  estimated  cost  and  the  start  and  completion  dates  for  the 
environmental,  right-of-way,  design,  and  construction  phases  of  the  project.  The  baseline 
agreement  is  considered  the  front-end  document  that  forms  the  foundation  for  the  Commission's 
in-progress  and  follow-up  accountability. 

The  Commission  requires  recipient  agencies  to  report,  on  a  quarterly  basis,  on  the  activities  and 
progress  made  toward  the  implementation  of  a  project,  including  those  activities  taking  place 
prior  to  the  allocation  of  bond  funds.  The  quarterly  progress  report  includes  approved  budgets, 
actual  expenditures  and  forecasted  costs,  as  well  as  approved  schedules,  progress  to  date,  and 
forecasted  completion  dates  for  each  phase  of  a  project. 

The  Commission's  accountability  implementation  plan  requires  the  recipient  agency  to  develop  a 
corrective  plan  to  address  anticipated  deviations  or  variances  from  the  approved  project  baseline 
agreement.  Efficiency  measures  for  possible  cost  increases  or  schedule  delays  are  addressed  on 
an  ongoing  basis  by  the  project  team  and  documented  through  the  corrective  plans. 

The  Commission  incorporated  audit  requirements  in  its  program  guidelines  as  mandated  by  SB 
88.  The  audits  will  be  performed  at  the  completion  of  construction  when  the  facility  becomes 
operable  (typically  when  the  construction  contractor  has  completed  the  work  and  the  recipient 
agency  has  opened  the  facility  to  traffic)  and  at  the  conclusion  (close-out)  of  all  project  activities 
to  document  the  full  cost  of  the  project. 

The  Commission  provides  semi-annual  reports  to  the  Department  of  Finance  and  the  Legislature 
on  the  status  of  each  program  to  communicate  whether  projects  are  being  executed  in  a  timely 
fashion  and  are  within  the  scope  and  budget  identified  in  the  executed  baseline  agreements.  The 
Commission  also  provides  in  its  annual  report  to  the  Legislature  a  summary  of  its  activities 
relative  to  the  administration  of  bond  programs  highlighting  significant  issues  with  these 
programs,  and  may  recommend  legislative  proposals  that  could  facilitate  their  implementation. 

The  Commission's  accountability  measures  are  designed  to  help  manage  projects  to  successful 
delivery.  This  level  of  project  scrutiny,  combined  with  bi-annual  reporting  requirements,  is 
unprecedented  at  the  state  level.  The  Commission  spends  a  considerable  amount  of  time  working 
with  Caltrans  and  regional  agencies  to  ensure  that  project  oversight  is  appropriate  and 
transparent.  Our  view  is  that  the  enhanced  reporting  and  accountability  will  become  the  norm  for 
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4.  Because  of  the  state 's  poor  fiscal  condition,  the  State  Treasurer  has  indicated  that  allocations  to 
projects  funded  by  the  historic  infrastructure  bond  package  of  2006  need  to  cease.  How  many 
projects  would  be  affected?  How  would  the  CTC  decide  which  projects  to  move  forward  with  and 
which  will  be  stalled? 

Based  on  the  action  taken  by  the  Pooled  Money  Investment  Board  (PMJB)  to  suspend 
disbursements,  Caltrans  notified  the  Commission  and  regional  agencies  that  they  had  suspended 
awards  of  State-administered  bond-funded  construction  contracts  and  that  the  situation  could  also 
have  an  impact  on  ongoing  construction  projects.  Caltrans  is  evaluating  the  cash  flow  situation  to 
determine  if  they  can  continue  State-administered  projects  that  have  been  awarded.  Caltrans 
advised  regional  agencies  not  to  enter  into  any  new  construction,  or  agreements  or  contracts  that 
would  be  funded  from  State  bonds  until  further  notice,  and  that  the  State  will  not  be  able  to 
reimbursement  them  for  expenditures  on  bond-funded  projects  already  underway  until  authorized 
by  the  PMIB. 

Given  the  state's  precarious  cash  position,  lack  of  bond  proceeds  may  result  in  the  Commission 
re-evaluating  how  much  Proposition  IB  funding  can  be  allocated  for  the  balance  of  the  2008-09 
year,  and  beyond.  This  would  negatively  impact  project  baseline  agreement  schedules  and  fail  to 
provide  any  economic  stimulus  through  increased  construction  activity.  The  Commission's  re- 
evaluation  will  be  done  through  a  consensus  effort  with  Caltrans  and  the  regional  agencies  as  has 
been  done  in  the  past  when  state  transportation  funding  has  been  suspended. 

5.  Are  there  enough  eligible  projects  ready  to  go  within  the  Governor 's  proposed  time  constraints  if 
expedited  Proposition  IB  funds  were  made  available? 

Yes,  there  are  enough  eligible  Proposition  IB  projects  ready  to  go.  However,  these  projects 
depend  on  the  state's  ability  to  sell  bonds.  If  the  state  can  not  sell  bonds  in  any  given  year,  these 
projects  will  be  at  risk. 

6.  Are  there  additional  projects,  above  and  beyond  those  identified  by  the  Governor  that  could  be 
advanced  with  an  earlier  appropriation  of  bond  funds?  Please  provide  some  examples. 

The  Commission  staff  worked  with  Caltrans  staff  to  develop  the  lists  of  projects  identified  by  the 
Governor.  Our  general  impression  is  that  bond  projects  that  are  scheduled  for  construction  during 
the  first  six  months  of  the  2009-1 0  fiscal  year  may  be  able  to  come  in  earlier  for  construction 
allocations  if  increased  bond  appropriation  levels  are  approved  for  the  2008-09  fiscal  year. 
However,  this  assumes  that  project  sponsors  are  on  schedule  to  begin  with  and  are  in  a  position 
to  expedite  final  approvals. 

7.  Critics  fear  that  in  order  to  accelerate  funds  for  infrastructure  projects,  the  state  will  waive  key 
environmental  regulations.  How  would  you  respond  to  those  concerns? 

Even  though  the  Governor  has  proposed  CEQA  waivers  as  part  of  the  state's  economic  stimulus 
plan,  my  understanding  is  that  in  practice  project-level  environmental  considerations  and 
mitigations  would  continue,  although  the  administration's  desire  is  for  review  and  permit 
processing  relief.  For  a  project  to  even  be  considered  for  CTC  programming,  it  must  undergo  an 
initial  scoping  document  that  identifies  environmental  impacts,  admittedly  at  a  lower  level  of 
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environmental  regulations  for  project  acceleration  but  how  to  achieve  streamlining  in  both  areas 
that  ensures  that  appropriate  environmental  impacts  are  mitigated  and  mobility  benefits  are 
achieved  earlier.  One  way  to  achieve  this  streamlining  is  through  agreements  on  the  front-end  of 
plan  development,  such  as  proposed  by  SB  375.  Another  way  is  to  build  impact  avoidance  into 
project  design,  which  happens  frequently  but  is  often  unrecognized. 

Transportation  in  a  Post-AB  32  World 

8.  Given  the  climate  change  goals  ofAB  32  and  SB  3  75,  as  well  as  evidence  of  the  negative  health 
effects  of  air  pollution  from  mobile  sources,  how  do  you  recommend  incorporating  air  quality 
and  climate-change  concerns  into  the  planning  and  programming  of  transportation  projects? 

In  2007  the  Commission  led  a  consensus-building  effort  to  incorporate  AB  32  objectives  into 
regional  transportation  plan  guidelines.  In  May  2008,  the  Commission  adopted  an  addendum  to 
the  2007  Regional  Transportation  Plan  (RTP)  Guidelines  addressing  climate  change  and  GHG 
emissions  during  the  RTP  process.  The  addendum  included  guidance  for  smart  growth,  land  use 
and  transportation  modeling.  The  Commission's  effort  predated  SB  375  but  was  ultimately  in 
concert  with  the  overall  direction  of  the  bill. 

Passage  of  SB  375  left  several  unanswered  questions  for  the  transportation  community,  questions 
the  bill's  author  has  indicated  a  willingness  to  answer  in  2009. 

In  reviewing  this  legislation,  the  Commission  composed  a  letter  to  the  Governor  highlighting  two 
issues  that  should  be  addressed  in  clarifying  legislation:  1)  that  transportation  sales  tax  measures 
passed  by  2010  should  be  exempt  from  evaluation  under  SB  375  requirements,  and  2)  that  GHG 
analyses  should  be  done  at  the  program  level  and  that  individual  project  environmental 
documents  tier  off  from  the  program  analyses. 

In  2009,  the  Commission  will  have  an  opportunity  to  begin  incorporating  SB  375  and  AB  32  in 
its  regional  transportation  plan  guidelines,  2010  fund  estimate,  and  2010  STIP  guidelines.  While 
the  Commission  stands  ready  to  facilitate  the  transportation  community's  efforts  in  this  regard, 
we  need  to  advise  you  that  without  reliable,  sustainable,  and  increased  transportation  funding  in 
the  next  decade  the  transportation  community  will  not  meet  its  AB  32  reduction  targets. 

9.  What  role  do  you  think  CTC  should  play  in  helping  to  achieve  the  goals  ofAB  32  and  SB  3  75? 

As  provided  in  #8,  the  Commission  will  incorporate  the  requirements  ofAB  32  and  SB  375  into 
its  RTP  Guidelines  and  2010  fund  estimate,  and  2010  STIP  guidelines.  Our  general  view  is  that 
regional  agencies  and  Caltrans  will  have  every  incentive  to  comply  with  AB  32  and  SB  375.  As  a 
result,  reducing  greenhouse  gas  emissions  will  become  part  of  implementing  transportation.  The 
Commission's  role  as  an  allocation  body  would  remain  the  same;  the  emphasis  of  the  projects  to 
which  allocations  are  made  will  evolve  to  incorporate  greater  air  quality  considerations. 


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10.  What  is  the  CTC  doing  to  implement  the  requirements  of  SB  375?  For  example,  has  the 
commission  begun  assessing  travel-demand  models  in  an  effort  to  have  those  models  better 
respond  to  land-use  decisions? 

As  the  Commission  does  not  have  the  staff  expertise  or  resources  available  to  assess  travel- 
demand  models  to  better  respond  to  land-use  decisions,  the  Commission  will  rely  on  Caltrans  and 
the  regional  agencies  during  the  transportation  planning  process. 

Federal  Economic  Stimulus  and  Transportation  Reauthorization 

11.  How  can  the  state 's  transportation  sector  best  be  positioned  to  take  advantage  of  any  economic 
stimulus  package  passed  by  the  federal  government  in  2009?  Has  the  CTC  or  Caltrans  begun 
identifying  projects  or  programs  that  it  would  focus  such  federal  dollars  on  in  California?  If  so, 
could  you  identify  those  priorities? 

The  Commission  has  been  in  involved  with  ongoing  discussions  with  Caltrans  and  state  and  local 
partners  regarding  the  proposed  economic  stimulus  package  since  early  December.  Discussions 
have  revolved  around  the  disbursement  of  the  funds  through  existing  state  laws  and  federal 
transportation  funding  requirements.  Key  issues  such  as  formulas  and  restrictions,  as  well  as 
subjective  preliminary  policies,  have  also  been  discussed. 

Caltrans  has  been  tasked  with  combining  project  lists  with  ready-to-go  projects  submitted  from 
its  partners  in  an  effort  to  position  California  as  ready  to  implement  federal  funds  when 
available.  The  key  issue  the  group  is  facing  is  the  size  of  the  list  emerging;  many  cities  and 
counties  are  asking  for  funds  for  all  projects  they  deem  as  important  to  their  respective  areas. 
Discussion  has  emerged  of  a  formula-based  disbursement  through  existing  programs  that  would, 
in  essence,  increase  appropriation  levels  for  these  programs.  The  benefit  of  this  approach  is  that 
all  regions  of  California  would  participate  in  the  stimulus:  some  regions  by  virtue  of  having 
projects  funded  immediately  and  others  by  having  needed  projects  funded  later  with  the 
increased  appropriation. 

This  idea  is  being  considered  so  California  is  assured  that  funding  is  not  lost  to  other  states  for 
failure  to  deliver.  No  projects  have  yet  been  chosen,  and  the  disbursement  of  funds  to  any 
projects  would  be  impacted  by  the  requirements  set  forth  by  the  federal  government  and  all 
existing  state  laws.  The  proposed  idea  is  to  use  current  state  law  in  regards  to  existing  programs, 
and  not  developing  new  programs.  The  Commission's  role  would  cany  broad  authority  to  assure 
that  funding  is  focused  on  projects  that  provide  short-term  economic  stimulus  with  longer  term 
benefits.  An  agency  that  did  not  get  stimulus  funding  now  would  still  get  an  increase  in  other 
formula  funds  later,  while  an  agency  that  got  a  project  now  would  get  an  adjusted  amount  toward 
their  shares  later. 

Priority  projects  would  be  those  projects  that  can  be  ready  for  construction  within  120  days  of 
the  funds  being  available.  The  most  likely  projects  will  be  pavement  rehabilitation  and 
maintenance  projects  at  the  state,  county  and  municipal  levels.  If  the  stimulus  includes  funds  for 
projects  ready  to  go  to  construction  within  a  year,  we  would  expect  to  fund  Proposition  1 B  and 
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12.  With  respect  to  SAFETEA-LU reauthorization,  what  programmatic  changes  are  the  CTC 
advocating  for  and  why?  What  are  the  state 's  priorities  for  the  next  round  of  multi-year  federal 
transportation  funds  ? 

The  Commission  supports  the  Consensus  Principles  developed  by  Caltrans  and  the  regions.  The 
Commission  has  also  participated  in  field  hearings  held  by  the  Environmental  and  Public  Works 
Committee  in  recent  months.  The  principles  include  an  emphasis  on  Goods  Movement  as  a 
national  priority,  enhancing  mobility  within  and  through  major  metropolitan  areas,  rehabilitating 
and  preserving  the  infrastructure  already  in  place,  and  reducing  congestion  and  its  impacts, 
sustainable  funding  and  establishing  funding  and  performance  criteria.  — 

California  is  already  implementing  these  principles  through  the  Proposition  IB  programs,  as  well 
as  through  the  implementation  of  SB  375.  The  Commission  along  with  other  transportation 
stakeholders  in  California  should  be  working  to  achieve  a  reauthorization  package  that  provides 
funding  and  legislative  flexibility  that  supports  California's  efforts.  Interestingly,  the  voice  that  is 
often  not  heard  in  these  discussions  is  the  Legislature's.  We  would  encourage  the  Legislature  to 
participate  in  the  reauthorization  discussions  here  and  in  Washington,  D.C. 

13.  How  could  California  become  more  effective  in  competing  fro  federal  discretionary 
transportation  funds  ? 

California  has  been  very  effective  over  the  years  in  competing  for  federal  discretionary 
transportation  funding.  Each  year  during  the  August  re-distribution  California  has  received  a 
significant  amount  of  money  from  the  federal  government.  Historically,  the  state  has  received 
over  $20  million,  and  in  recent  years  the  amount  received  has  been  closer  to  $100  million  which 
supports  and  is  a  reflection  of  California's  willingness  and  ability  to  use  any  available  funds  that 
come  its  way.  The  passing  of  the  High  Speed  Rail  bond,  the  GMAP,  and  Proposition  IB  bonds 
are  significant  examples  of  California  laying  the  groundwork  to  programs  that  can  offer 
guidelines  and  resource  for  funding  that  becomes  available. 

An  example  of  how  California  is  currently  working  with  other  like-minded  states,  specifically 
Oregon  and  Washington,  with  similar  objectives,  by  beginning  a  multi-state  effort  aimed  at 
exploring  and  testing  the  possibilities  of  alternative  approaches  to  our  transportation  system  and 
funding  structures,  such  as  congestion  pricing.  Studies  completed  by  our  neighboring  states  have 
also  concluded  that  a  vehicle  miles  traveled  (VMT)  fee  structure  appears  to  nicely  compliment 
several  priorities  shared  amongst  the  West  Coast  States  -  namely:  reducing  congestion,  reducing 
greenhouse  gas  emissions,  increasing  the  use  of  alternative  transportation  modes,  and  identifying 
a  sustainable,  long-term  transportation  funding  source.  VMT  and  congestion  pricing  are  two 
alternative  funding  sources  that  have  potential  to  warrant  the  interest  and  support  of  federal 
government  funding  options. 


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High  Occupancy  Vehicle  Lanes,  Tolls  Roads,  and  High  Occupancy  Toll  Lanes 

14.  Is  the  AB  1467 program  working  as  intended?  Have  any  public-private  partnerships,  as 
authorized  by  that  bill,  come  before  the  CTCfor  evaluation  or  approval?  Do  you  have  any 
suggestions  for  statutory  changes  to  the  program? 

On  October  27,  2007,  the  Commission  adopted  the  Public  Partnership  High  Occupancy  Toll 
Lane  Guidelines  and  Application  to  implement  the  requirements  of  AB  1467.  In  order  for  the 
Commission  to  consider  a  project  eligible  for  consideration  by  the  Legislature,  a  nominating 
agency  was  required  to  submit  an  application  in  accordance  with  the  guidelines  and  provide 
evidence  that  the  project  is  consistent  with  Streets  &  Highways  Code  Sections  149-149.7;  that 
there  is  cooperation  with  Caltrans  and  consistency  with  state  highway  system  requirements;  that 
the  project  is  technically  and  financially  feasible;  that  the  project  is  consistent  with  the  Regional 
Transportation  Plan;  and  that  there  are  performance  measures  established  for  project  monitoring 
and  tracking. 

Subsequent  to  adopting  the  HOT  Lane  Guidelines,  the  Commission  received  two  eligible 
applications,  both  from  Southern  California.  On  December  13,  2007,  the  Riverside  County 
Transportation  Commission  (RCTC)  submitted  its  Public  Partnership  Application  for  HOT 
Lanes  for  the  Interstate  15  Corridor  and  HOT  Lane  Project  in  Riverside  County  to  the 
Commission.  The  Commission  found  the  RCTC  application  eligible  for  consideration  by  the 
Legislature  on  April  9,  2008.  The  Northern  California  hearing  was  held  on  April  10,  2008  and 
the  Southern  California  hearing  was  held  on  April  24,  2008.  AB  1954  authorizing  the  RCTC 
project  was  passed  by  the  Legislature  in  August  2008  and  signed  by  the  Governor  on  September 
27,2008. 

On  March  31,  2008  the  Los  Angeles  County  Metropolitan  Transportation  Authority  (LA  Metro) 
submitted  its  application  for  the  Los  Angeles  Region  Express  Lanes  Project  to  the  Commission. 
The  Commission  found  the  LA  Metro  application  eligible  for  consideration  by  the  Legislature  on 
July  23,  2008.  The  Southern  California  hearing  was  held  on  July  23,  2008  and  the  Northern 
California  hearing  was  held  on  July  28,  2008.  Senate  Bill  1422  authorizing  the  LA  Metro  project 
was  passed  by  the  Legislature  in  August  2008  and  signed  by  the  Governor  on  September  28, 
2008. 

As  agencies  achieve  more  success  with  pubic-private  partnerships,  the  Commission  would  hope 
that  the  Legislature  would  reward  the  transportation  community  with  increasing  partnership 
powers. 

15.  Although  numerous  bills  authorizing  individual  toll  facilities,  toll  roads,  and  HOT  lanes  have 
been  passed,  critics  argue  that  the  state  lacks  an  overall  policy  on  developing  and  financing  toll 
facilities.  What  recommendations  would  you  make  to  the  Legislature  informing  a  statewide 
policy  on  toll  roads  and  HOT  lanes? 

The  passage  of  AB  1467  signaled  the  state's  willingness  to  re-enter  the  public-private  partnership 
fray.  The  bill  contains  several  implementation  challenges,  the  most  noticeable  of  which  is  the 
prohibition  against  auto  tolls.  Without  the  ability  to  toll  automobiles,  it  is  unclear  whether  truck 
tolls  can  generate  enough  revenues  to  enable  truck-only  toll  lanes  to  be  built. 


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The  Commission  recommends  that  the  Legislature  and  administration  revisit  public-private 
partnership  in  2009.  The  success  of  other  countries  and  other  states  with  similar  political, 
demographic,  environmental,  and  transportation  challenges  suggests  that  the  institutional 
challenges  to  public-private  partnerships  can  be  overcome. 

A  key  threshold  question  that  needs  to  be  answered  in  the  policy  debate  is  where  will  the  funding 
come  from  to  build  the  transportation  capacity  a  California  with  40  to  45  million  people  will 
need.  Proposition  1 B  is  a  much-needed  shot  in  the  arm  for  transportation  funding;  however,  the 
resources  in  Proposition  IB  are  inadequate  to  deal  with  the  capacity  needs  of  2015  and  beyond. 
Based  on  the  experience  of  other  countries  and  states,  gas  and  sales  taxes  cannot  be  raised  high 
enough  to  meet  these  needs;  tolls  and  user  fees  are  necessary  to  pay  for  the  needed  mobility. 

However,  the  Commission  recognizes  that  the  current  political  and  transportation  environment 
requires  developing  a  new  California  approach  to  public-private  partnerships.  Such  an  approach 
might  emphasize  the  need  for  public-public-private  partnerships  in  which  the  State  and  regional 
agencies  enter  into  agreements  that  the  private  sector  implements  with  appropriate  public-sector 
oversight  on  toll  rates,  procurement,  and  implementation.  And,  the  next  iteration  of  public- 
private  partnership  legislation  needs  to  include  design-build  authority  for  at  least  the  public- 
private  partnership  projects. 

16.  Do  you  agree  with  criticisms  of  HOT  lanes?  How  would  you  proposed  to  address  equity 
concerns  raised  by  opponents  of  HOT  lanes? 

Based  on  patronage  data  from  the  managements  of  the  91  Express  Lanes  and  the  125  Southbay 
Expressway,  Joe  the  Plumber  and  Sue  the  Soccer  Mom  are  as  likely  to  travel  those  tolled 
facilities  as  the  executive  in  a  Lexus.  HOT  Lanes  are  about  paying  for  transportation  choices, 
which  we  have  precious  little  of  in  transportation  in  California.  The  HOT  Lanes  that  have  been 
built  in  California  and  are  proposed  for  future  consideration  all  have  "free"  alternatives  that 
compete  with  these  facilities.  I  think  rational  pricing  of  transportation  with  suitable  alternatives 
provides  Californians  at  all  economic  levels  with  the  ability  to  choose  the  travel  option  that  best 
works  for  them.  As  the  owner  of  a  trucking  firm,  my  drivers  often  don't  have  the  choice  of  when 
to  travel  over  certain  highways,  our  customers  determine  when  and  where  we  need  to  be.  But,  if 
my  drivers  could  pay  to  avoid  congestion,  pay  for  a  guaranteed  travel  time,  they  would  do  it  in  a 
heartbeat. 

State  Transportation  Improvement  Program 

1 7.  Do  you  have  any  concerns  with  how  public  transit  funds  are  distributed  in  the  STIP  process?  Do 
you  have  any  suggestions  for  how  these  funds  might  be  distributed  more  efficiently? 

Public  transit  funds  are  not  distributed  any  differently  than  the  other  funds  in  the  STIP.  The 

problem  with  transit  funds  is  not  in  the  distribution  formula  but  the  unreliable  and  unstable 

funding  source  from  which  these  funds  come  from.  The  PTA  is  a  transit-only  funding  source,  and 

yet  $1.3  billion  in  funds  have  been  diverted  away  from  transit  in  the  past  year.  Proposition  42 

funds  are  more  flexible  as  far  as  distribution  to  both  transit  and  highway  projects,  yet  these  funds 

teeter  on  the  verge  of  being  raided  at  any  time.  All  STIP  funds  are  flexible  to  the  regional 

priorities,  but  the  average  amount  of  money  available  through  the  STEP  has  declined  as  well. 

Transit  funds  from  the  STIP  are  distributed  based  on  what  the  regions  view  as  their  priorities.  -t  -j  o 


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Transit  has  an  opportunity  to  play  a  very  important  role  in  reducing  congestion,  enhancing 
mobility  and  partnering  with  alternative  modes  of  travel  in  the  reduction  GHG  emissions.  It  is  up 
to  the  Legislature  to  define  and  support  the  role  of  transit  to  our  state  and  provide  secure  and 
reliable  sources  of  funding  for  it  to  be  successful. 

18.  Do  you  have  any  concerns  with  how  STIP  funds  are  distributed  among  urban  and  rural  areas? 
How  do  you  describe  your  approach  to  balancing  the  transportation  needs  of  rural  and  urban 
areas? 

The  biggest  concern  for  the  STIP  funding  program  is  not  the  distribution  or  distribution  formulas 
of  the  funds  but  the  funding  system  itself.  The  threat  of  borrowing  from  programs  like 
Proposition  42  and  the  PTA  leave  the  STIP  as  an  unstable  and  insufficient  funding  source  to 
meet  both  the  urban  and  rural  area  needs.  The  key  to  providing  a  balanced  approach  to 
addressing  rural  and  urban  needs  is  to  not  divert  or  take  away  any  further  funding  to  this  program 
or  the  other  programs  that  flow  into  the  STIP. 

Where  urban  and  rural,  or  smaller,  counties  do  differ  significantly  in  addressing  their  funding 
needs  is  over  sales  tax  measures  dedicated  to  transportation.  Nearly  all  of  the  state's  urban 
counties  have  transportation  sales  tax  measures.  Some  even  have  more  than  one.  Those  counties 
have  a  distinct  advantage  in  terms  of  advancing  their  regional  priorities  and  making  those 
priorities  competitive  for  STIP  funding.  Having  just  chaired  a  losing  sales  tax  measure  effort  in 
Stanislaus  County — a  small,  more  rural  county — I  can  tell  you  how  difficult  it  is  to  achieve  the 
two-thirds  vote  requirement  for  these  tax  measures.  We  missed  winning  by  hundreds  of  votes, 
having  garnered  over  66  percent  of  the  vote,  but  not  the  required  66.7  percent.  If  the  two-thirds 
vote  requirement  could  be  changed,  to  say  60  percent,  smaller  counties  would  be  better 
positioned  to  address  their  regional  transportation  challenges. 


Sincerely, 


R.  KIRK  LINDSEY 
Commissioner 

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Alice  Dowdin  Calvillo,  Public  Employment  Relations  Board 

Prepared  December  29,  2008 


Goals  and  Responsibilities 

1.    What  do  you  hope  to  accomplish  during  your  tenure  as  a  member  ofPERB?  How  will  you 
measure  your  success? 

PERB  is  a  quasi-judicial  agency  charged  with  overseeing  public  sector  collective  bargaining  in 
California  while  promoting  harmonious  labor  relations  among  employees,  employers  and 
employee  organizations.  To  this  end,  PERB  administers  seven  collective  bargaining  statutes, 
ensures  their  consistent  implementation  and  application,  and  adjudicates  disputes  between  the 
parties  subject  to  them. 

As  a  Board  member,  the  majority  of  my  time  is  spent  reviewing  appeals  from  determinations 
made  by  Board  agents  filed  by  employers,  employees  and  employee  organizations.  More 
specifically,  the  Board  reviews  appeals  from:  1)  dismissals  of  charges  found  insufficient  by  the 
General  Counsel's  office  to  show  that  an  unfair  labor  practice  occurred;  2)  proposed  decisions  of 
Administrative  Law  Judges  following  evidentiary  hearings  on  unfair  labor  practice  complaints; 
and  3)  findings  regarding  representation  petitions. 

The  Board  itself  issues  precedential  decisions  that  make  up  a  large  and  important  part  of  the 
body  of  law  governing  public  sector  collective  bargaining.  Therefore,  it  is  imperative  that  I, 
whether  as  author  or  panel  member,1  issue  decisions  that  not  only  correctly  apply  the  law  to  the 
evidence  presented,  but  also  provide  clarity  and  guidance  to  better  enable  the  parties  to  meet 
their  collective  bargaining  obligations.  I  take  this  charge  very  seriously  and  work  hard  to 
produce  clear,  concise  and  legally  sound  decisions. 

In  addition,  it  is  my  goal  to  help  reduce  the  Board's  appeal  backlog.  Until  last  year,  the  Board 
functioned  with  less  than  five  members  resulting  in  more  appeals  assigned  to  each  Board 
member.  I  am  a  proponent  of  the  adage  that  "justice  delayed  is  justice  denied,"  and  work 
tirelessly  to  complete  as  many  cases  as  possible.  Although  first  appointed  in  January  2008, 1  was 
on  maternity  leave  until  the  end  of  March.  Since  that  time,  I  have  authored  18  decisions  and 
participated  in  multiple  others  as  a  panel  member.  Although  new  appeals  are  assigned  weekly, 


PERB  appeals,  using  an  already  established,  neutral  process,  are  assigned  to  panels  of 
three  Board  members  with  one  member  designated  as  the  author  of  that  decision.  The 
remaining  two  panel  members  also  review  the  record  to  ensure  the  decision  is  compliant  with 
the  law  and  addresses  the  issues  and  merits  of  the  case.  This  results  in  all  three  panel  members 
being  responsible  for  the  final  decision  once  it  is  issued. 


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sometimes  daily,  to  date  I  only  have  six  appeals  and  one  motion  for  re-consideration  on  my 
personal  docket. 

I  also  strongly  support  PERB's  outreach  to  constituents  by  enhancing  the  resources  of  the  agency 
available  to  them.  In  recent  years,  the  Board  developed  a  process  for  filing  unfair  practice 
charges  on-line  and  since  then  has  expanded  and  enhanced  the  offerings  available  through  its 
website.  PERB  has  conducted  two  very  successful  conferences  in  the  past  few  years,  providing 
union  and  management  representatives  insight  into  PERB  processes  and  available  resources  such 
as  mediation.  Finally,  PERB's  Advisory  Committee,  composed  of  key  members  of  the  public 
sector  labor  and  management  communities,  plays  a  valuable  role  in  developing 
recommendations  in  areas  relevant  to  PERB's  mission  of  promoting  harmonious  public  sector 
employer-employee  relations  in  California.  Meeting  with  this  group  enables  the  Board  to 
explore  ideas  for  enhanced  services  and  receive  input  from  our  constituencies  on  where  we  can 
do  better.  Receiving  feedback  from  our  constituencies  is  a  good  measurement  of  our  success. 

During  my  tenure  at  PERB,  I  hope  to  ensure  justice  is  served  by  issuing  timely  and  well- 
reasoned  decisions  and  being  an  effective  Board  member  by  being  responsive  to  my  peers  as 
well  as  our  constituency.  My  success  in  these  areas  can  be  measured  by  the  reputation  I  hold 
among  my  colleagues  and  throughout  PERB's  constituency  regarding  productivity,  neutrality, 
fairness,  and  responsiveness. 

2.    What  is  your  understanding  of  PERB 's  role  in  labor  relations?   What  do  you  believe  is  the 
board  member's  role  within  the  framework? 

PERB's  primary  role  in  the  scheme  of  public  sector  labor  relations  is  to  resolve  labor  disputes 
by  investigating  and  adjudicating  unfair  practice  charges  in  a  fair  and  impartial  manner. 
PERB's  efforts  to  facilitate  voluntary  settlement  of  disputes  are  an  important  but  often 
overlooked  aspect  of  this  process.  I  believe  that  PERB  has  had  great  success  in  this  area.  For 
example,  traditionally  half  of  the  cases  filed  with  PERB  result  in  voluntary  settlement  by  the 
parties.  PERB  also  plays  an  important  role  in  safeguarding  the  statutory  right  of  employees  to 
have  union  representation,  or  to  not  have  union  representation,  by  conducting  elections, 
processing  unit  modification  petitions  and  verifying  proof  of  support  in  "card  check"  cases. 

The  main  function  of  the  Board  itself  is  to  issue  timely  legal  decisions  on  appeals  from 
determinations  made  by  Board  agents.  These  decisions  must  provide  clear  guidance  to  public 
employers  and  public  employee  organizations  regarding  their  rights  and  obligations  under  the 
seven  collective  bargaining  statutes  PERB  administers.  In  addition,  it  is  the  Board's 
responsibility  to  ensure  that  public  employers  and  employee  organizations  have  a  clear 
understanding  of  how  PERB  administers  its  collective  bargaining  statutes.  We  do  this  through 
effective  outreach  (e.g.,  participating  in  labor  relation  conferences)  and  communication. 
Finally,  the  Board  is  also  responsible  for  adopting  sound  regulations  to  implement  the  statutes 
it  administers  to  ensure  that  its  mission  of  promoting  harmonious  labor  relations  is  realized. 


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3.  Based  upon  the  types  of  complaints  PERB  reviews  and  adjudicates,  what,  in  your  view,  are 
the  most  important  labor  relations  issues  facing  employers  and  employees?   What 
challenges  do  you  see  PERB  facing  during  your  tenure? 

In  my  opinion,  the  most  important  labor  relations  issues  facing  both  public  employers  and 
employee  organizations  today  stem  from  the  significant  reduction  of  revenue  available  to 
public  agencies  due  to  the  downturn  in  the  economy.  While  PERB  to  date  has  not  seen  a 
noticeable  trend  of  increased  filings  on  any  one  issue,  there  are  several  that  are  likely  to 
produce  more  charges  in  the  near  future.  Negotiations  over  salary  increases,  which  are  often 
conducted  yearly  in  connection  with  the  State  budget,  are  more  contentious  as  government 
revenues  decline.  This  will  likely  result  in  more  charges  being  filed  over  bargaining  conduct 
and  implementation  of  wage  agreements  and,  correspondingly,  more  job  actions  and  requests 
for  injunctive  relief.  The  cost  of  health  care  benefits  for  both  current  employees  and  retirees  is 
the  subject  of  several  charges  currently  before  PERB.  Additionally,  because  most  of  the 
State's  bargaining  units  are  currently  without  collective  bargaining  agreements,  PERB  has  seen 
an  increase  in  filings  by  unions  representing  State  employees.  Finally,  if  employers  are  forced 
to  make  staff  reductions,  PERB  could  see  charges  based  on  the  way  in  which  the  reductions  are 
implemented,  as  well  as  charges  that  particular  employees  were  laid  off  unlawfully.  But  of 
course,  even  a  charge  involving  a  single  employee  is  important  to  the  parties  involved. 

The  financial  crisis  facing  the  State  also  provides  a  challenge  to  PERB  itself  in  ensuring  that  it 
can  adequately  manage  its  workload  and  carry  out  its  statutory  charges.  PERB  is  a  General 
Fund  agency,  which  means  that  we  must  compete  for  funds  with  many  other  State  agencies 
that  provide  important  services  to  the  public.  As  the  pie  gets  smaller,  PERB's  slice  is  reduced, 
resulting  in  our  having  to  make  difficult  choices  as  to  how  we  ensure  all  of  our  constituent 
needs  are  being  met.  The  elimination  of  PERB's  fact-finding  allocation  in  the  last  budget  is  a 
prime  example  of  this.  To  address  the  allocation  elimination,  the  Board  reduced  the  contract 
amount  it  pays  fact-finding  panel  chairpersons.  PERB  recognizes  that  more  budget  cuts  are 
likely  on  the  horizon  and  will  continue  to  do  its  best  to  make  sure  it  can  carry  out  its  mission. 

Budget-Balancing  Reductions 

4.  What  steps  has  the  board  taken  to  address  the  deletion  of  funding  for  fact-finding,  given 
that  the  mandate  was  not  eliminated,  and  what  impact  will  this  have  on  PERB  and  its 
constituencies? 

Fact-finding  is  part  of  the  mandatory  impasse  resolution  process  under  both  EERA  and 
HEERA.  During  fact-finding,  the  parties  present  their  proposals  and  financial  information  to  a 
three-member  panel,  chaired  by  a  neutral  member  selected  either  by  PERB  or  by  the  parties 
(under  EERA,  if  the  parties  elect  to  go  with  their  own  chairperson,  then  they,  not  PERB,  pay 
for  his  or  her  services).  If  the  chairperson  is  selected  by  PERB,  PERB  is  required  by  statute  to 
pay  costs  of  the  services  of  the  panel  chairperson,  including  per  diem  fees,  if  any,  and  actual 
and  necessary  travel  and  subsistence.  However,  the  law  is  silent  as  to  what  the  per  diem  rate 
shall  be. 

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As  a  result  of  today's  tough  financial  times,  PERB's  budget  for  fiscal  year  2007-08  was 
enacted  without  an  allocation  for  fact-finding  services.  However,  the  statutory  requirement  for 
fact-finding  remained.  Therefore,  PERB  was  tasked  with  finding  monies  to  pay  for  the 
contract  amount  for  neutrals  serving  as  fact-finding  panel  chairs  while  continuing  to  provide 
essential  services  to  the  remainder  of  its  constituencies. 

PERB's  annual  budget  for  this  year  is  $6.26  million  and  $5.12  million  or  81  percent  of  that  is 
dedicated  to  salaries  and  benefits  given  that  this  agency's  "product"  is  service.  Of  the  $5.12 
million,  the  majority  of  this  goes  to  pay  for  rent  at  PERB's  three  offices  located  statewide. 
This  leaves  very  little  to  pay  for  other  essential  services  such  as  fact-finding.  As  a  result,  at  its 
October  27,  2008  public  meeting,  the  Board  voted  to  divert  funds  from  other  PERB  vital 
functions  to  pay  for  fact-finding  services  at  a  maximum  rate  of  $100  per  day  for  a  maximum  of 
three  days  (a  reduction  from  $800  per  day  with  an  overall  contract  cap  of  $4,000).  The  Board 
did  this  in  an  attempt  to  balance,  to  the  extent  fiscally  possible,  its  statutory  obligations  with 
the  invaluable  services  provided  by  fact-finding  chairpersons.  This  is  not  the  first  time  the 
Board  has  taken  such  an  action.  The  rate  was  reduced  to  $100  per  day  in  fiscal  year  2002-03 
and  was  not  increased  until  fiscal  year  2004-05  when  financial  times  for  the  State  improved. 

The  result  of  this  reduction  is  that  of  the  46  individuals  who  were  eligible  to  receive  fact- 
finding chairperson  appointments,  seven  people  directly  communicated  to  PERB  that  they 
were  willing  to  serve  as  fact-finding  panel  chairpersons  at  the  newly  reduced  rate.  Some  of 
PERB's  constituencies  contend  the  reduction  in  the  pool  of  applicants  will  lead  to  delays  in  the 
fact-finding  process  that  could  result  in  further  confrontation  between  the  parties.  However, 
PERB  notes  that  since  the  rate  reduction,  three  requests  for  fact-finding  services  have  come  to 
PERB,  and  of  those  one  is  pending  and  in  two  cases,  the  parties  chose  and  will  pay  for  their 
own  fact-finding  chairperson. 

It  is  my  thought  that  when  the  State's  financial  crisis  is  over  and  there  are  more  monies 
available  in  the  General  Fund,  PERB  will  again  seek  an  augmentation  to  its  budget  to  cover 
fact-finding  services. 

Meyers-Milias-Brown  Act 

5.  Do  you  feel  the  staffing  level  at  PERB  is  sufficient  to  meet  current  workload  requirements? 
If  you  do  not  believe  the  staffing  level  is  adequate,  how  would  you  propose  to  address  this 
issue  considering  the  current  budget  deficit? 

I  am  constantly  amazed  that  an  agency  as  small  as  PERB  can  and  does  accomplish  so  much 
important  work.  Charged  with  administering  seven  collective  bargaining  statutes,  one  would 
easily  think  this  agency  must  have  a  large  staff  to  be  as  successful  as  it  is.  However,  with  just 
slightly  more  than  40  people  statewide,  we  are  fortunate  to  have  experienced,  hard-working 
staff  who  are  sincerely  dedicated  to  PERB's  mission. 


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When  the  Legislature  gave  PERB  jurisdiction  over  the  Meyers-Milias-Brown  Act  (MMB  A)  in 
2001,  budgetary  conditions  precluded  the  addition  of  new  staff  to  accommodate  the  new 
workload.  Instead,  PERB  got  creative  with  its  existing  resources.  We  cross-trained  our  staff, 
allowing  our  specialists  in  representation,  for  example,  to  train  regional  attorneys.  Regional 
attorneys  have  also  gained  experience  mediating  settlement  conferences,  conducting  formal 
evidentiary  hearings  on  representation  matters  and  handling  litigation.  Veteran  staff  are  able  to 
mentor  less  experienced  staff.  The  cross -training  and  skills  have  broadened  the  staffs  depth  of 
understanding  of  collective  bargaining  and  labor  relations  and  stretched  our  resources  to  cover 
increasing  workload. 

Since  2001,  as  the  number  of  unfair  practice  charges  increased  and  State  funding  restrictions 
eased  a  little,  PERB  sought  and  received  authorization  for  additional  staff.  PERB  made  certain 
that  consistent  workload  increases  supported  the  requested 'resources  as  opposed  to  asking  for 
new  staff  before  the  workload  was  realized.  PERB  does  not  have  excess  staff  by  any  means  of 
the  word,  but  we  have  been  responsive  in  difficult  fiscal  years  by  waiting  until  additional 
staffing  requests  were  fully  justified.  And  in  light  of  our  current  fiscal  crisis,  our  main 
objective  now  turns  to  preserving  PERB's  existing  staff  so  that  we  can  continue  to  provide  a 
high  level  of  service  while  being  responsive  to  continued  budget  cuts. 

6.  Do  you  think  the  law  in  this  area  needs  to  be  changed  or  clarified?   Why  or  why  not?  If 
yes,  what  changes  would  you  recommend? 

The  issue  in  question  is  whether  or  not  PERB  has  exclusive  initial  jurisdiction  over  essential 
employee  strikes  under  the  MMBA.  The  term  essential  employees  is  used  to  designate 
employees  whose  absence  from  their  jobs  would  threaten  public  health  and  safety.  The  issue 
of  PERB's  jurisdiction  over  essential  employee  strikes  under  the  MMBA  first  arose  in  2006. 
Between  June  2  and  September  7,  2006,  the  City  of  San  Jose,  and  the  counties  of  Contra  Costa 
and  Sacramento  each  sought  injunctive  relief  from  the  superior  court  to  prohibit  certain 
essential  employees  from  going  on  strike.  PERB  intervened  in  each  case,  claiming  that  it  had 
exclusive  initial  jurisdiction  over  the  threatened  strikes  because  they  potentially  constituted 
unfair  practices  or,  alternatively,  were  protected  conduct  under  MMBA.  The  court  in  the 
San  Jose  case  agreed  with  PERB;  the  other  two  courts  disagreed  and  issued  injunctions 
prohibiting  the  essential  employees  from  striking.  All  three  cases  were  appealed. 

Decisions  were  issued  in  the  three  appeals  this  year.  Two  courts  of  appeal,  in  the  San  Jose  and 
Sacramento  cases,  held  that  local  agencies  must  come  to  PERB  when  seeking  to  enjoin  a  strike 
by  essential  employees.  The  court  in  the  Contra  Costa  case  held  that  local  agencies  could  go 
directly  to  superior  court  for  such  injunctions. 

On  June  1 8,  2008,  the  California  Supreme  Court  granted  review  in  the  San  Jose  case  (City  of 
San  Jose  v.  Operating  Engineers  Local  Union  No.  3  (2008)  160  Cal.App.4th  951,  review 
granted  June  18,  2008,  SI 62647).  The  Court  has  since  granted  review  in  the  other  two  cases, 
but  those  cases  are  on  hold  pending  the  decision  in  City  of  San  Jose.  PERB,  like  so  many 
others,  is  actively  watching  these  cases  and  anxiously  awaiting  the  Court's  ruling. 

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The  fact  that  two  Courts  of  Appeal  ruled  in  favor  of  PERB's  jurisdiction,  while  a  third  ruled 
against  it,  is  a  strong  indication  that  this  area  of  the  law  needs  clarification.  I  am  hopeful  that 
the  Supreme  Court,  in  its  review  of  City  of  San  Jose,  will  provide  a  definitive  and  clear 
statement  of  jurisdiction  for  essential  employee  strikes  under  MMBA  to  alleviate  any  future 
confusion.  Until  the  Supreme  Court  rules,  I  believe  it  is  counterproductive  to  make  any 
changes  to  the  statute. 


Alice  Dowdin  Calvillo 

Senate  Rules  Committee 

Confirmation  Hearing  Date 

January  14.  2009 


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ARNOLD  SCHWARZENEGGER,  GOVERNOR 


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0.  BOX  4036 

ACRAMENTO,  CA  95812-4036 


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Appointments 


December  29,  2008 

The  Honorable  Senator  Darrell  Steinberg 
Senate  Pro  Tempore 
State  Capitol,  Room  400 
Sacramento,  CA  95814 

Attention  Nettie  Sabelhaus 

Martin  N.  Hoshino,  Executive  Officer 
Board  of  Parole  Hearings 
Post  Office  Box  4036 
Sacramento,  CA  95812-4046 

Dear  Senator  Steinberg, 

I  appreciate  the  opportunity  to  provide  the  Senate  Rules  Committee  with  the  following 
information  in  preparation  for  my  confirmation  hearing  on  my  appointment  as  the 
Executive  Officer  of  the  Board  of  Parole  Hearings  (BPH).  I  look  forward  to  appearing 
before  the  Senate  Rules  Committee  on  Wednesday,  January  14,  2009  at  1:30  to 
respond  to  any  other  questions  the  Committee  may  present. 

In  addition,  I  have  reviewed  the  Form  700,  Statement  of  Economic  Interest,  which  was 
attached  to  your  letter  dated  December  9,  2008,  and  there  are  no  changes. 

I  have  prepared  the  following  written  answers  in  response  to  the  questions  submitted 
December  8,  2009. 


Statement  of  Goals 

1 .      What  are  your  goals  and  objectives  as  the  Executive  Officer  of  BPH?  What 
are  the  top  priorities  for  your  tenure? 

My  goals,  objectives  and  top  priorities  are: 

•  Develop  or  amend  BPH  programs  to  produce  timely  and  fair  parole  suitability  and 
revocations  hearings. 

•  Establish  an  accurate  baseline  of  BPH  operations  in  the  areas  of  missions 
performance,  staffing,  budget,  and  working  conditions. 


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Develop  a  workforce  and  change  management  function  to  guide  and  control 
corrective  actions  and  to  self-identify,  coordinate  solutions  and  prevent  problems. 


•  Develop  a  leadership  structure  and  recruit  a  management  team  to  better  serve 
the  BPH  and  provide  for  stable  leadership  succession. 

•  Increase  and  balance  BPH  collaboration  and  coordination  with  partners, 
suppliers,  stakeholders  and  other  interested  parties. 

•  Increase  operational  support  for  commissioners  and  deputy  commissioners 
including  enhanced  training,  legal  advice,  and  availability  of  scientific  and 
evidentiary  information  for  stronger  decision  making. 

•  Develop  strategies  for  three  class  action  lawsuits. 

•  End  the  wasteful  cycle  of  multiple  hearing  postponements  for  life  term  inmate 
hearings. 

•  Reduce  the  backlog  of  life  inmate  suitability  hearings. 

2.      To  date,  what  are  your  accomplishments  and  how  do  you  measure  your 
success? 

The  following  is  a  list  of  what  I  consider  to  be  accomplishments  by  the  Board  since 
my  arrival: 

Organizational 

•  Developed  management  controls  to  reconcile  BPH  positions  to  accurately 
identify  vacancies  and  manage  BPH's  budget. 

•  Reorganized  the  BPH  structure  to  increase  promotional  opportunities  within  the 
BPH,  increase  leadership  stability,  and  manage  change. 

•  Participated  in  ensuring  all  Commissioner  positions  were  filled. 

Lifer  Suitability  Hearings 

•  Reduced  and  ended  the  cycle  of  hearing  postponements. 

•  Reformed  processes  associated  with  parole  suitability  hearings  to  control  and 
reduce  the  backlog  of  hearings. 

•  Developed  exit  strategy  for  Rutherford  litigation. 

•  Increased  the  meet  and  confers  with  Rutherford  plaintiffs'  counsel  in  an  attempt 
to  come  to  agreement  on  outstanding  issues  of  the  lawsuit. 

•  Created  a  scheduling  backfill  process  in  order  to  optimize  the  ability  to  have  full 
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•  Redesigned  lifer  training  curriculum  for  Commissioners. 

•  Contributed  to  filling  all  vacant  Commissioner  positions  (first  time  full  since  1989 
except  for  3  months  in  1998). 
Filled  new  psychologist  positions. 

•  Trained  psychologists  and  Commissioners  in  use  of  the  assessment  tools. 
Eliminated  backlog  of  psychological  evaluations. 

•  Changed  the  decision  review  process  to  expand  reviews  of  life  term  parole 
suitability  hearing  denials  as  well  as  grants.  All  decisions  to  grant  parole  and  a 
percentage  of  the  denials  are  being  reviewed  by  BPH  and  legal  staff  to  ensure 
that  decisions  are  soundly  based  in  fact  and  law. 

•  Initial  implementation  of  Proposition  9  (Marsy's  Law)  related  to  the  hearing 
process  for  inmates  sentenced  to  life  with  the  possibility  of  parole 

•  Provided  training  to  additional  Deputy  Commissioners  (DC)  and  retired 
annuitants  in  the  lifer  process  with  the  new  training  unit. 

•  Continued  deployment  of  reliable  data  system  for  the  tracking  and  reporting  of 
lifer  events  (LSTS). 

•  Developed  monitoring  of  lifer  hearings  to  ensure  quality  and  due  process. 

Revocation  Hearings 

•  Participated  in  development  and  roll  out  of  Parole  Violation  Decision  Making 
Instrument  (PVDMI). 

•  Finalized  the  process  for  revocation  and  treatment  of  the  mentally  ill  parolees. 

•  Continued  negotiations  for  a  decision  review  process  for  revocation  hearings. 

•  Implemented  a  monitoring/compliance  unit  to  oversee  identified  problems  and 
take  corrective  action  to  remedy  problems. 

•  Trained  DCs  on  discharge  process  so  more  parolees  are  discharged  if 
appropriate. 

•  Continued  the  Cooperative  Personnel  Services  study  of  discharges,  improving 
the  numbers. 

•  Hired  additional  DC  retired  annuitants  to  ensure  compliance  with  Valdivia 
timeframes. 

•  Conducted  regular  supervisor  staff  meetings  with  field  Associate  Deputy 
Commissioners  (ACDCs)  to  allow  the  field  more  participation  in  decisions  and 
increase  input  into  field  problems. 

•  Increased  communication  with  the  field  staff  through  conference  calls,  site  visits 
and  mailings. 

•  Continued  to  modify  the  scheduling  and  tracking  system  for  the  revocation 
hearings  in  order  to  provide  more  accurate  and  efficient  data  to  courts. 

•  Currently  in  the  process  of  filling  vacancies  (the  process  has  been  slowed  or 
delayed  due  to  budget  difficulty). 


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Other 

•  Increased  number  of  Foreign  Prisoner  transfers 

•  increased   timeliness   of   Foreign    Prisoner  transfer   investigations   by   setting 
performance  and  review  measures 

I  measure  success  by  monitoring  progress  against  performance  objectives  set  by  law, 
court  orders,  policy  or  management.  Where  no  performance  objectives  exist,  I  develop 
measures  consistent  with  our  goals.  I  survey  staff,  partners,  stakeholders  and  critics  of 
the  BPH  for  input,  whether  negative  or  positive.  I  review  intended  management  reports 
and  reports  issued  by  courts,  special  masters,  CDCR's  office  of  Court  Compliance  and 
external  oversight  agencies. 

Training  and  Quality  Control 

BPH  is  governed  by  Title  15  of  the  California  Code  of  Regulations,  yet  changes  occur  in 
law  and/or  court  decisions  that  affect  the  board's  proceedings. 

3.  The   Rules    Committee   has   encouraged  BPH   to   improve   training  of 

commissioners  to  prevent  errors  and  heighten  consistency  in  hearings. 
What  inroads  have  you  made  toward  that  goal?  Whose  job  is  it  to  examine 
hearings  for  consistency? 

Shortly  after  coming  to  BPH  I  evaluated  the  quality  of  the  Commissioner  training 
program.  To  begin  improvements  to  the  BPH  training  program,  BPH  conducted  a  gap 
analysis  to  identify  training  needs.  This  analysis  utilized  interviews  of  hearing 
participants  and  interested  parties,  a  survey  of  Commissioners,  a  review  of  past  training 
protocols  and  a  comprehensive  review  of  hearing  transcripts.  The  results  of  this 
analysis  provided  BPH  with  the  necessary  information  to  develop  a  new  training  and 
monitoring  methodology.  It  was  clear  that  the  training  could  be  more  effective  if  more 
comprehensive.  In  May  2008,  at  the  conclusion  of  the  evaluation,  I  assigned  staff  to 
begin  the  development  of  a  more  comprehensive  training  academy,  focusing  on  all 
portions  of  the  Commissioner's  job  with  special  focus  on  the  areas  identified  by  the 
Commissioners  as  needing  more  training  and  clarification.  The  development  of  the 
training  academy  included  development  of  training  modules  that  could  be  used  in  all 
future  training  academies  to  promote  consistency  in  the  training  of  each  new 
Commissioner.  The  new  training  model  was  first  implemented  in  July  and  August  2008. 
One  of  the  most  significant  needs  identified  was  the  need  for  more  practical  training.  To 
address  this,  the  training  academy  condensed  the  headquarters  training  to  2.5  weeks, 
including  several  days  of  mock  hearings.  The  new  Commissioners  were  then  assigned 
to  lifer  hearings  at  institutions  with  experienced  Commissioners  and  Deputy 
Commissioners  for  two  weeks.  During  this  two-week  period,  the  new  Commissioners 
observed  and  then  participated  in  the  hearings  as  a  third  panel  member  with  the 
guidance  of  the  experienced  Commissioner  and  Deputy  Commissioner.  Based  on 
participation  in  the  headquarter  training,  prior  training  and  professional  backgrounds, 


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the  trainers  identified  areas  of  strengths  and  weaknesses  of  the  new  Commissioners. 
The  training  group  provided  individual  assessments  of  the  new  Commissioner's  skills  in 
order  assist  the  new  Commissioners'  to  improve  in  weak  areas.  After  the  two-week 
period  in  the  field,  the  new  Commissioners  were  assigned  to  hearings  with  experienced 
Deputy  Commissioners  for  a  3-4  week  period.  During  this  period  they  were  provided 
phone  numbers  in  order  to  receive  any  necessary  support  from  the  legal  and  training 
units  at  BPH  headquarters.  This  practical  and  individualized  approach  provided  our  new 
Commissioners  with  a  more  solid  foundation  in  which  to  begin  their  tenures  at  the  BPH. 

In  addition  to  the  new  Commissioner  training,  the  semi-annual  training  for  all 
Commissioners  was  restructured  by  the  training  unit  to  address  new  and  emerging 
issues  and  policies  on  a  more  real  time  basis.  Based  on  the  continuous  reviews  of 
decisions,  the  training  modules  for  the  semi-annual  training  focused  on  identified 
systemic  problems  and  practical  applications  of  new  policies  or  laws.  The  semi-annual 
training  covers  changes  in  regulation,  policy,  Title  15  compliance  legal  updates  and 
refresher  sessions  in  decision  making  skills.  For  example  the  May  2008  semi-annual 
training  emphasized  integrating  facts  into  the  suitability  consideration  factors  found  in 
Title  15  when  issuing  decisions.  The  second  semi-annual  training  in  December  2008 
included  changes  in  the  law  resulting  from  the  passage  of  Proposition  9. 

In  order  to  ensure  hearings  are  conducted  consistently  and  in  accordance  with  the  laws 
and  regulations  governing  lifer  suitability  and  rescission  hearings,  monitoring  protocols 
were  developed  and  implemented.  Pursuant  to  Title  15  §  2041(h),  BPH  legal  staff 
reviews  all  grants  and  1-10%  of  denials.  BPH  randomly  selects  denial  cases  on  a 
monthly  basis  and  conducts  a  thorough  review  of  the  hearing  transcript.  This  review 
encompasses  Title  15  compliance,  including  but  not  limited  to  whether  panels  afforded 
prisoners  with  procedural  rights,  compliance  with  the  Americans  with  Disabilities  Act, 
and  whether  the  panel  addressed  all  legal  objections.  This  random  review  of  denials 
also  includes  a  determination  of  whether  there  exists  an  error  of  law  or  fact  within  the 
hearing  itself  and  whether  the  panel  used  the  suitability  factors  found  in  Title  15  §§ 
2402,  2281  in  making  a  decision  of  unsuitability. 

The  training  unit's  subject  matter  experts  also  participate  in  the  monitoring  effort.  The 
training  unit  reviews  hearing  transcripts  with  a  focus  on  the  quality  of  the  hearing.  The 
subject  matter  experts  also  monitor  the  Lifer  Hearing  database,  called  the  Lifer 
Scheduling  and  Tracking  System  (LSTS).  Staff  reviews  entries  daily,  which  provide  real- 
time guidance  on  developing  issues  for  panel  members  in  the  field.  The  board 
addresses  isolated  individual  challenges  by  re-training  and  develops  new  training 
modules  for  systemic  issues.  Finally,  the  BPH  headquarters'  training  and  legal  staff  is 
available  for  guidance  and  support  during  case  preparation  and  hearings. 


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4.      How  are  board  members  and  deputy  commissioners  notified  when  there  is  a 
change  in  law  or  a  court  decision  that  affects  board  proceedings? 

Commissioners  and  Deputy  Commissioners  receive  information  from  the  Board 
regarding  changes  to  the  law  or  court  decisions  affecting  the  board  proceedings  in  a 
variety  of  ways.  When  laws  change,  the  Board's  training  unit,  together  with  the  legal  unit 
create  training  modules,  and  present  the  material  to  Commissioners  and  Deputy 
Commissioners  during  semi-annual  training  seminars  (Note:  due  to  the  Valdivia 
Permanent  Injunction  and  the  vacancy  rate  the  BPH  has  been  unable  to  train  all  Deputy 
Commissioners  at  the  semi-annual  training  and  instead  must  use  regional  training 
where  the  trainers  go  to  the  field).  Many  changes  in  the  law  immediately  affect  Board 
proceedings.  In  these  instances,  the  Board  outlines  the  changes  and  typically  provides 
the  information  by  email  to  Commissioners  and  by  email,  voicemail  and  hard  copy  in 
weekly  mailings  to  Deputy  Commissioners.  The  BPH  then  drafts  instructional  memos  for 
distribution  to  all  affected  staff.  When  the  change  is  particularly  complicated  and 
requires  immediate  implementation  the  Board  employs  other  means,  such  as  group 
conference  calls  for  Deputy  Commissioners,  and  short  training  modules  during  Board 
meetings  for  Commissioners,  to  assure  that  members  have  the  tools  they  need  to 
effectively  implement  the  change  while  continuing  to  provide  fair  hearings  and  protect 
public  safety. 

For  example,  in  August  2008,  the  California  Supreme  Court's  Lawrence  and  Shaputis 
decisions  had  enormous  impact  on  parole  suitability  hearings  in  that  it  changed  the 
standard  required  to  evaluate  life  term  inmates  for  parole.  In  anticipation  of  these 
decisions,  the  BPH,  at  the  semi-annual  training  in  May,  emphasized  the  importance  of 
applying  the  facts  of  an  individual  case  to  the  suitability  or  unsuitability  factors  found  in 
Title  15.  The  training  specifically  stressed  the  need  to  provide  decisions  that  go  beyond 
the  commitment  offense.  The  training  included  use  of  a  revised  worksheet  to  render 
decisions  and  to  provide  Commissioners  with  a  practical  tool  to  facilitate  application  of 
the  law.  After  the  Court  rendered  the  decision,  the  BPH  provided  copies  of  the  decision 
with  an  overview  via  email  to  the  Commissioners.  The  Deputy  Attorney  General  who 
supervised  and  argued  the  case  was  invited  and  appeared  at  the  next  Board  meeting  to 
discuss  the  decision  and  answer  questions.  The  Board  also  prepared  an  instructional 
memo  for  Deputy  Commissioners  related  to  changes  in  the  Lifer  hearings  that  included 
Lawrence  and  Shaputis,  as  well  as  Marsy's  Law  and  other  related  topics.  We  followed 
the  issuance  of  the  memo  with  a  conference  call  to  provide  direction  and  answer 
questions.  At  the  semi-annual  training  for  Commissioners  in  December,  the  BPH 
dedicated  an  afternoon  to  applying  the  new  standard  given  by  the  Court  in  Lawrence 
and  Shaputis.  This  comprehensive  approach  to  changes  in  the  law  provides  our 
Commissioners  and  Deputy  Commissioners  the  information  and  tools  that  they  need  to 
make  sound  decisions. 


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5.  The  use  of  multi-year  denials  in  lifer  hearings  seems  to  vary  significantly 
among  commissioners.  Are  all  members  and  deputy  commissioners 
expected  to  follow  similar  guidelines  or  policy? 

During  training  the  Commissioners  and  Deputy  Commissioners  are  instructed  on  the 
general  guidelines  set  forth  in  Title  15  §2402  and  §2281,  respectively,  that  outline 
factors  demonstrating  suitability  and  unsuitability.  These  factors  are  used  to  determine 
if  the  prisoner  remains  a  danger  to  society  if  released  to  the  community.  If  the  prisoner 
is  found  unsuitable  the  panels  then  consider  the  amount  of  time  reasonably  necessary 
for  the  prisoner  to  become  suitable  and  to  correct  any  identified  deficits.  The 
regulations  give  each  panel  member  the  discretion  to  assign  relative  weight  to  the 
suitability  and  unsuitability  factors.  Depending  on  the  weight  the  panel  attaches  to  the 
particular  case  factors,  such  as  the  prisoners  progress  in  available  programming,  the 
panel  determines  the  proper  denial  length.  Given  that  the  weight  provided  to  each 
factor  is  within  the  discretion  of  each  panel  member  and  that  the  composition  of  panels 
change  weekly,  some  variance  in  denial  lengths  are  to  be  expected.  Each  panel 
considers  all  circumstances  related  to  a  prisoner's  case  when  coming  to  a  decision  on 
the  amount  of  time  needed  for  the  prisoner  to  become  a  stronger  candidate  for  parole. 

6.  The  Rules  Committee  in  the  past  has  found  fault  with  the  quality  of  the  audio 
taping  process  at  lifer  hearings,  the  timeliness  of  the  transcripts,  and  the 
timeliness  and  quality  of  psychological  evaluations,  all  of  which  result  in 
greater  expense  when  hearings  must  be  postponed  or  re-done  because  of 
these  problems.  What  progress  have  you  made  to  improve  these  aspects  of 
the  hearing  process? 

Upon  coming  to  the  Board  in  February  2008,  there  were  a  number  of  issues  and 
problems  already  identified  as  in  need  of  a  remedy.  The  three  issues  in  this  question 
were  three  of  those  problems.  Regarding  rehearings  due  to  equipment  problems,  the 
review  revealed  that  many  of  these  mistakes  are  attributed  to  human  error.  In  response, 
hearing  panel  members  all  received  training  on  the  use  of  the  recording  equipment.  The 
equipment  also  had  instructional  cards  attached  to  remind  staff  of  proper  use.  The 
training  emphasizes  the  importance  of  checking  the  equipment  prior  to  each  hearing, 
and  re-checking  the  equipment  during  the  hearing.  When  hearing  equipment 
malfunction  necessitates  a  re-hearing,  the  Scheduling  Unit  notifies  the  responsible 
panel  members  and  provides  re-training  on  proper  use  of  the  equipment.  A  comparison 
of  re-hearings  due  to  recording  equipment  malfunction  between  calendar  years  2007 
and  2008  shows  a  reduction  from  59  cases  in  2007  to  28  cases  to  date  in  2008. 

The  investigation  into  the  timeliness  of  transcripts  determined  most  of  the  problem  was 
due  to  the  increase  in  the  number  of  hearings.  The  sole  transcriber  used  could  not 
keep  up  with  the  increase  within  the  timeframes  prescribed.  In  response,  contracts  with 
additional  vendors  were  issued,  resulting  in  timely  transcriptions.  All  transcripts  are  now 
available  for  every  inmate,  upon  their  request.  It  should  be  noted,  pursuant  to  Penal 
Code  Section  3041 .5(a)  (4):    The  prisoner  shall  be  permitted  to  request  and  receive  a 


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stenographic  record  of  all  proceedings."  Furthermore,  California  Code  of  Regulations, 
Title  15,  Division  2,  Section  2254,  states:  "...  The  prisoner  is  entitled  to  a  copy  of  the 
record  of  the  hearing  upon  request. " 

The  third  issue,  timeliness  and  quality  of  Psychological  Evaluations,  was  probably  the 
largest  and  most  significant  issue  facing  the  lifer  hearing  process.  The  timeliness  of  the 
evaluations  accounted  for  the  majority  of  the  postponements  attributed  to  the  Board.  In 
turn,  these  postponements  sometimes  created  multiple  postponements  and  added  to 
the  already  overwhelming  backlog  of  hearings.  Part  of  the  remedy  to  the  problem  was 
set  in  motion  prior  to  my  arrival,  but  efforts  had  stalled  or  slowed  for  a  variety  of 
reasons. 

The  Rutherford  project  management  team  tackled  the  problem  by: 

•  Working  with  the  scheduling  unit  to  develop  a  process  that  would  give  more 
notice  prior  to  the  hearing  if  a  psychological  evaluation  was  needed. 

•  Additional  contract  psychologists  were  hired  until  permanent  staff  could  be  put  in 
place 

•  Additional  psychologists  were  hired  and  trained. 

•  LSTS  entries  regarding  postponements  and  psychological  evaluation  protocols 
were  monitored  in  real  time  and  remedied  where  necessary. 

As  the  additional  staff  became  competent  to  do  the  evaluations  they  were  immediately 
deployed  to  the  field  (resulting  in  a  smooth  transition  from  contract  psychologist  to  BPH 
psychologist  doing  the  evaluations).  Postponements  related  to  psychological  reports, 
previously  the  largest  contributor  attributable  to  the  state's  reasons  for  postponement, 
were  reduced  between  March  2008  and  October/November.  This  in  turn  resulted  in  a 
significant  decrease  in  the  overall  postponement  rate  attributed  to  the  state  by  October 
2008.  Extensive  training  was  provided  to  Commissioners  on  the  appropriateness  of 
postponements  based  on  the  psychological  evaluations.  A  scheduling  "backfill  process" 
was  developed  and  implemented  in  May  2008.  The  "backfill  process"  required  staff  to 
review  lifer  hearing  packets  well  in  advance  of  the  scheduled  hearing.  This  allowed  for 
cases  not  ready  for  a  hearing,  due  to  missing  or  invalid  psychological  reports,  to  be 
removed  from  the  calendar.  The  hearing  removed  from  the  calendar  was  replaced  by 
another  case  that  was  ready  to  be  heard.  This  process  made  it  possible  to  avoid  losing 
the  time  allotted  for  a  hearing. 

The  BPH's  believes  that  the  quality  of  psychological  evaluations  has  increased  due  to  a 
number  of  factors.  Prior  to  my  appointment,  BPH  developed  a  separate  Forensic 
Assessment  Division  (FAD)  to  address  issues  of  quality  and  consistency.  In  order  to 
determine  best  practices  relative  to  the  report,  the  Board  at  that  time  received  input  from 
internal  and  external  stakeholders,  as  well  as  experts  in  the  field  of  psychology.   For  my 


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part,  I  ensured  that  FAD  clinicians  completing  psychological  evaluations  were  given 
training  in  the  use  of  one  consistent  format  with  clear  expectations  for  the  quality  of  their 
work.  In  addition  to  the  interview  with  the  prisoner,  the  clinicians  were  trained  in  use  of 
three-assessment  tools.  To  create  consistency,  the  Board  expanded  the  FAD  by  hiring 
additional  clinicians,  creating  a  supervisory  structure,  and  streamlining  the  report  format. 
As  a  result,  the  Board  recently  issued  a  new  Psychological  Report  guideline,  effective 
January  1,  2009.  The  new  guideline  standardizes  the  scope  of  the  report,  the 
appropriate  use  in  parole  suitability  hearings,  the  report  format,  including  use  of  three 
risk  assessment  instruments,  and  the  review  process. 

7.  What  training  do  commissioners  and  deputy  commissioners  receive  about 
the  psychological  evaluations  and  the  tools  for  evaluating  them? 

To  expand  the  understanding  and  consistent  use  of  the  reports,  Panel  members 
received  training  on  the  new  format,  including  the  assessment  tools  relied  on  by 
clinicians  in  forming  opinions  as  to  prisoners'  risk  of  future  violence.  Training  on  the 
psychological  reports  is  a  part  of  the  permanent  training  modules  used  for 
Commissioner  and  Deputy  Commissioner  training.  Panel  members  also  received 
training  as  to  the  relative  importance  of  psychological  reports  in  their  determination  of 
parole  suitability,  with  emphasis  on  how  the  clinicians'  opinions  relate  to  the  panel's 
obligation  under  Title  15  to  assess  a  prisoner's  mental  state  and  attitude  towards  the 
crime.  Finally,  panel  members  were  trained  on  the  use  of  opinion  evidence,  such  as 
psychological  reports,  including  the  necessity  of  determining  reliability  based  on  a 
review  of  all  the  evidence  and  case  factors,  and  assigning  relative  weight  to  the  reports 
accordingly. 

8.  Your  predecessor  indicated  that  when  the  BPH  forensic  unit  was  started  to 
oversee  psychological  reports,  including  those  done  by  contract 
psychologists,  they  were  to  be  reviewed  and  cosigned  by  senior 
psychologists.  Eventually,  the  senior  psychologists  were  to  commence  a 
random  sampling  of  reports.  Is  this  random  sampling  being  done  and,  if  so, 
what  are  the  results? 

Prior  to  my  appointment  to  the  BPH,  a  process  existed  that  required  the  senior 
psychologists  to  review  evaluations  prior  to  hearings  if  a  new  evaluation  had  not 
occurred  or  there  was  insufficient  time  to  do  a  new  evaluation.  With  the  implementation 
of  the  scheduling  backfill  plan  and  other  coordinated  efforts  the  need  for  the  senior 
psychologists  to  sign  off  on  a  prior  report  was  reduced.  Since  the  filling  of  the  vacant 
psychologist  positions  the  need  for  contractors  and  the  inability  to  provide  a  new 
psychological  report  has  been  reduced.  All  reports  are  now  signed  off  by  supervising 
clinicians  -  eliminating  the  need  for  random  samplings. 


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Risk  Assessment 

9.  CDCR  has  focused  much  attention  on  developing  and  implementing  new 
tools  for  risk  assessment  What  risk  assessment  tools  does  the  BPH  employ 
in  parole  suitability  hearings  for  lifers  or  revocation  hearings  for  parolees? 
How  have  board  members  and  deputy  commissioners  been  trained  to  use 
the  tools? 

In  the  lifer  process  the  BPH  employs  licensed  clinical  psychologists,  who  are  trained  in 
the  use  of  standardized  risk  assessment  instruments.  The  BPH  clinicians  use 
standardized  risk  instruments  when  they  prepare  psychological  reports  for  prisoners 
scheduled  for  parole  suitability  hearings.  The  BPH  clinicians  use  standardized  risk 
assessment  to  assist  them  in  determining  the  prisoner's  risk  for  future  violence  should 
the  prisoner  be  granted  parole  and  released  into  the  community.  The  risk  assessment 
instruments  most  used  in  this  process  include  the  following: 


• 


• 


Psychopathy  Checklist-Revised  (PCL-R) 
History-Clinical-Risk  20  (HCR-20) 

Level    of    Service    Inventory-    Revised    (LSI-R)    /    Level    of    Service-Case 
Management  Inventory  (LS/CMI) 
•     Static  99  -  a  supplement  to  other  tools  when  there  is  a  history  of  sexual 
offending,  or  sexual  overtones  in  the  life  crime. 

The  following  is  a  brief  description  of  each  of  the  instruments: 

Psychopathy  Checklist-Revised  (PCL-R) 

The  PCL-R  (also  known  as  the  Hare)  is  a  psychological  assessment  instrument  first 
developed  by  Dr.  Robert  Hare  in  1991  to  operationalize  and  quantify  the  identification  of 
psychopaths  (extreme  anti-social  personality  disorders).  Research  indicates  that  the 
20-item  scale  not  only  identifies  such  individuals,  but  also  has  strong  predictive  value  for 
violence.  Advantages  of  the  instrument  are  that  it  has  been  extensively  validated  on 
prison  inmates,  is  utilized  in  many  other  risk  measures,  and  identifies  individuals  who 
are  the  most  seriously  violent  and  least  likely  to  change.  Disadvantages  are  that  it 
requires  clinical  psychologists  to  administer  and  interpret,  has  significant  training  costs, 
and  is  limited  to  identification  of  a  relatively  small  population  of  offenders  whose 
extreme  personality  profile  is  the  primary  basis  of  their  criminality. 

History-Clinical-Risk  20  (HCR-20) 

The  HCR-20  is  an  instrument  developed  in  1997  to  account  for  some  of  the  inherent 
limitations  in  the  PCL-R  (above),  while  maintaining  a  high  level  of  reliability  and 
predictive  validity.  Based  upon  a  comprehensive  review  of  the  research  literature,  the 
developers  identified  20  risk  factors  that  had  been  shown  to  have  a  significant 
relationship  to  violence.   In  addition  to  10  "static"  factors,  5  clinical  variables  and  5  future 


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risk  variables  were  identified.  Advantages  are  that  it  contains  both  static  and  dynamic 
(changeable)  factors,  is  very  easy  to  administer  and  score,  has  been  validated  on  a 
population  of  mentally  ill  subjects,  and  is  low  cost.  Disadvantages  are  that  it  was  not 
primarily  designed  as  a  tool  for  prediction  of  violence  and  derives  most  of  its  validity 
from  the  same  factors  covered  in  the  PCL-R. 

Level  of  Service  Inventory-  Revised  (LSI-R)  /  Level  of  Service-Case  Management 
Inventory  (LS/CMI) 

The  LSI-R  is  a  structured  judgment  personality  inventory  tool  first  developed  in  1995  in 
Canada  and  subsequently  implemented  and  validated  in  widespread  jurisdictions 
throughout  the  United  States  (not  California)  and  other  countries.  The  most  recent 
derivative  of  the  original  instrument  is  the  LS/CMI,  which  has  been  adjusted  to 
consolidate  some  variables,  and  enhance  the  case  management  component  of  the 
analysis.  The  advantages  are  that  it  has  a  much  greater  value  for  assessing  causative 
factors  in  criminal  behavior,  developing  treatment  and  management  programs  to  deal 
with  this  behavior,  and  measuring  change  over  time.  It  requires  extensive  training,  but 
can  potentially  be  administered  by  non-clinicians. 

Static  99 

This  is  a  10  item  checklist  of  factors  found  to  be  most  predictive  of  recidivism  in  a  study 
of  rapists  and  child  molesters  in  Canada.  The  actuarial  type  instrument  has 
subsequently  been  widely  utilized  for  this  purpose  in  Canada,  Great  Britain,  and  the 
United  States.  It  is  a  key  indicator  used  for  identification  of  Sexually  Violent  Predators 
in  California.  It  will  be  utilized  in  this  program  as  a  supplement  to  other  tools  when  there 
is  a  history  of  sexual  offending,  or  sexual  overtones  in  the  life  crime. 

The  BPH  provided  training  for  the  Commissioners  and  Deputy  Commissioners  on  the 
use  of  psychological  reports  in  the  lifer  term  parole  suitability  hearing  process.  The 
Senior  Psychologist  Supervisors  conducted  the  training.  The  training  included  the 
history  and  use  of  each  of  the  instruments  above.  The  senior  psychologist  supervisors 
during  training  explained  that  part  of  the  intent  is  to  ensure  consistent  quality  and 
adherence  to  specified  forensic  mental  health  standards  in  the  psychological  reports 
used  in  the  life  term  parole  suitability  hearing  process.  In  training  it  was  explained  that  a 
primary  benefit  of  the  new  assessments  is  that  they  are  based  upon  valid  and  reliable 
instruments  developed  and  implemented  in  prisons  and  mental  hospitals  both  in  this 
country  and  internationally,  rather  than  the  simple  opinion  of  a  particular  evaluator. 

The  training  also  included  the  new  report  format  and  emphasized  that  assessment  of 
risk  is  one  of  the  factors  to  be  considered  in  determining  parole  suitability,  but  is  not  the 
only  factor  in  considering  parole  suitability. 

In  the  revocation  process  a  risk  assessment  tool  (the  California  Static  Risk  Assessment 
[CRSA])  has  been  incorporated  into  the  Parole  Violation  Decision  Making  Instrument 


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(PVDMI).  After  approximately  18  months  development  the  department  rolled  out  a  pilot 
using  the  PVDMI  which  was  designed  to  reduce  the  risk  of  recidivism,  enhance  success 
on  parole,  and  utilize  resources  in  the  most  effective  manner.  The  PVDMI  is  also 
expected  to  make  the  dispositional  recommendations  to  the  BPH  from  parole  agents 
more  consistent.  The  PVDMI  utilizes  the  CRSA  tool  combined  with  the  severity  of  the 
violation  to  reach  the  appropriate  recommendation  for  disposition  of  the  charged 
violation.  The  BPH  line  staff  and  management  participated  in  the  training  on  how  to  use 
and  interpret  the  PVDMI.  The  Associate  Deputy  Commissioners  and  Deputy 
Commissioners  were  trained  in  how  the  BPH  should  use  the  PVDMI  in  conjunction  with 
the  guidelines  set  forth  in  the  California  Code  of  Regulations  for  violation  assessments. 
If  validated,  the  PVDMI  could  prove  to  be  an  invaluable  tool  for  both  the  department  of 
Adult  Parole  Operations  and  the  BPH  in  determining  the  best  disposition  for  a  parole 
violator. 

Proposition  9  -  Victims  rights  and  Protection  Act 

Under  the  recently  approved  Proposition  9,  inmates  would  be  entitled  to  fewer  parole 
hearings  and  the  number  of  people  permitted  to  attend  and  testify  at  the  hearings  would 
increase.  Changes  would  occur  in  both  lifer  and  parole  revocation  hearings. 

10.  What  changes  in  hearings  do  you  foresee  as  a  result  of  passage  of 
Proposition  9,  and  how  will  they  impact  the  board's  workload?  How  are  you 
training  board  members  in  the  wake  of  Proposition  9? 

In  summary,  Proposition  9  amends  and  or  adds  to  both  the  State  Constitution  and  penal 
code.  The  Proposition  expands  the  legal  rights  of  crime  victims  and  the  payment  of 
restitution  by  criminal  offenders,  restricts  the  early  release  of  inmates,  makes  significant 
changes  to  the  life  parole  consideration  hearing  procedures,  and  makes  significant 
changes  to  the  parole  revocation  hearing  procedures.  Proposition  9  will  impact  the  BPH 
by  requiring  procedural  changes  to  both  the  life  parole  suitability  and  parole  revocation 
hearing  processes,  and  in  doing  so,  impacts  both  the  Valdivia  and  Rutherford/Lugo 
stipulated  agreements/court  ordered  remedial  plans.  The  statutory  changes  of  the 
Proposition  will  require  regulatory  changes  to  BPH's  Division  of  California  Code  of 
Regulations. 

The  impact  to  the  BPH's  workload  as  a  result  of  Proposition  9  requires  some 
speculation.  We  anticipate  minimally  additional  staff  work  due  to  the  expansion  of  the 
notification  to  victims,  the  need  for  law  and  regulatory  changes  and  the  need  for 
training.  Lengthier  hearings  are  likely  due  to  the  increased  rights  of  victims  in  both 
parole  consideration  and  revocation  proceedings. 

Specifically  in  the  parole  revocation  process,  Proposition  9  changes  the  requirement  for 
appointment  of  counsel  which  will  result  in  the  BPH  Deputy  Commissioners  being 
required  to  assume  some  of  the  duties  that  the  attorneys  had  been  performing.  The 
Proposition  reduces  the  time  frames  for  conducting  probable  cause  which  will  require 


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the  BPH  to  change  the  present  process  and  advance  the  hearing  in  which  probable 
cause  is  found.  The  timeframes  for  the  revocation  hearing  is  lengthened  -  having  no 
real  impact  on  present  process.  It  provides  additional  protections  for  victims  or 
percipient  witnesses,  which  will  require  additional  staff  work  for  notification  and  longer 
hearings  due  to  added  victim  participation. 

Specifically  in  the  life  term  parole  consideration  hearing  process,  the  change  in 
available  denial  periods  when  a  prisoner  is  found  unsuitable  has  been  changed  from  1-5 
years  to  3,  5,  7,  10  and  15  year  denials.  Although  the  longer  denial  lengths  may  seem  to 
reduce  the  number  of  hearings,  the  future  workload  for  these  hearings  will  depend  on 
denial  lengths;  because  the  number  of  prisoners  eligible  for  suitability  hearings 
continues  to  increase  yearly,  the  Board  anticipates  no  significant  short  term  drop  in  the 
number  of  hearings  required.  The  expansion  in  the  definition  of  a  victim  and  victim's 
next  of  kin,  the  creation  of  greater  obligations  for  notice  to  victims,  (90  days  prior  to  the 
hearings,  30  days  prior  to  the  hearings  and  then  the  date  and  time  of  the  hearing  shall 
be  confirmed  at  14  days  prior  to  the  hearing),  and  the  provision  that  all  victims  shall  also 
be  notified  when  a  prisoner  makes  a  request  for  an  advanced  hearing  (which  may  occur 
once  every  three  years  following  the  prisoner's  denial  of  parole)  will  increase  the 
workload  associated  with  the  notice  requirements,  and  the  expansion  of  victim 
participation  in  life  parole  consideration  hearings,  including  uninterrupted  statements  by 
victims,  may  substantially  increase  the  length  of  each  hearing  reducing  the  number  of 
hearings  that  can  be  conducted  daily.  Additionally,  all  victims  have  the  right  to  request 
and  receive  stenographic  records  (transcripts)  of  the  hearings.  There  will  likely  be 
increased  BPH  workload  associated  transcriptions  services,  prisoner  petition  for 
advanced  hearings,  and  reconsideration  hearing  workload.  Further,  the  proposition 
requires  the  creation  of  a  process  for  prisoners  to  petition  to  advance  hearing  dates, 
and  the  reconsideration  of  parole  grants.  The  current  process  has  only  been  available 
to  5  year  denials  so  the  workload  connected  to  this  new  process  is  unknown. 

In  December  2008,  Commissioners  were  trained  on  the  new  denial  scheme  requiring 
three  to  fifteen  years  between  suitability  hearings,  including  emphasis  on  the 
requirement  to  show  clear  and  convincing  evidence  in  order  to  give  less  than  a  15  or  10 
year  denial.  Commissioners  also  received  training  on  the  expanded  scope  of  what 
qualifies  as  a  victim  or  a  victims'  next  of  kin  and  their  participation  in  our  hearings. 

Parole  Suitability  (Lifer)  Hearings 

There  are  about  30,570  life-term  inmates  who  have  the  possibility  of  parole.  In  2007 
BPH  scheduled  3,790  lifer  hearings.  Of  those  hearings,  86  percent  were  subsequent 
hearings,  meaning  that  it  was  at  least  the  inmate's  second  parole  eligibility  hearing. 
From  January  to  September  2008,  the  hearing  total  was  3,065,  and  81  percent  were 
subsequent  hearings. 


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11.  You  indicated  at  the  October  BPH  meeting  that  there  has  been  a  dramatic 
reduction  of  the  hearing  backlog  to  20  percent  in  September  compared  to  48 
percent  in  the  first  six  months  of  calendar  year  2008.  Please  describe  what 
you  have  done  to  drive  down  these  numbers.  Also,  describe  how  the  board 
is  currently  calculating  the  backlog.  Please  explain  the  current  status  of  the 
backlog,  the  expected  timeframes  for  its  elimination,  and  how  you  will 
monitor  progress. 

The  BPH  defines  "backlog"  as  all  cases  that  are  late  due  to  the  fault  of  the  State.  The 
Lifer  Scheduling  and  Tracking  System  (LSTS)  tracks  the  backlog  based  on  an  assigned 
"no  later  than  date"  (NLT)  which  represents  the  last  day  to  schedule  the  hearing  in  order 
to  be  timely.  When  cases  are  not  scheduled  prior  to  the  NLT,  or  when  cases  are 
postponed  for  reasons  under  the  State's  control  or  if  there  is  not  a  Commissioner 
available  to  hear  the  case,  LSTS  reports  the  case  on  the  Backlog  Report.  At  this  time, 
the  BPH  believes  it  may  eliminate  the  current  backlog  by  June  2009  and  reduce  the 
ongoing  backlog  to  10%  percent  or  less.  The  BPH  plans  enhancements  to  LSTS' 
reporting  functions  during  2009  in  order  to  more  closely  monitor  hearing  delays  and 
specific  causes. 

In  order  to  tackle  the  backlog  of  Lifer  hearings,  the  BPH  identified  the  primary  factors 
contributing  to  the  backlog.  The  analysis  indicated  that  the  BPH  and  CDCR  had  gaps  in 
the  processes  that  support  the  Lifer  hearings  and  showed  that  the  vast  majority  of 
hearing  postponements,  which  drive  the  backlog,  were  caused  by  issues  with 
psychological  evaluations,  panel  unavailability  and  inmate  requests  to  delay  their 
hearings.  The  BPH  undertook  to  address  each  identified  challenge.  To  clarify  the 
premise  for  this  question,  at  the  October  BPH  public  meeting,  I  announced  that  the 
postponement  rate  of  hearings  had  dropped  from  48%  to  27%  in  September  2008. 
Additionally,  it  is  worth  noting  that  the  backlog  decreased  from  1456  in  May  of  2008  to 
744  in  November  2008.  The  postponement  rate  is  directly  related  to  the  "backlog"  of 
hearings,  but  is  not  the  same  deficiency. 

The  BPH  and  the  Division  of  Adult  Institutions  (DAI)  began  meeting  twice  a  month  to 
address  issues  related  to  Lifer  hearings.  The  group  first  worked  on  identified 
deficiencies,  such  as  the  need  for  additional  copy  machines  at  the  institutions  for 
records  staff  that  compile  Board  packets  for  Lifer  hearings.  The  joint  taskforce  then 
began  to  address  coordination  and  gaps  between  the  divisions  at  the  institution  level. 
As  communication  improved  between  the  divisions,  the  leadership  at  both  BPH  and  DAI 
were  able  to  re-direct  staff  and  make  modifications  where  needed. 

In  order  to  address  postponements  due  to  psychological  reports,  the  BPH  restructured 
the  Forensic  Assessment  Division  (FAD),  streamlined  the  reports  and  created  realistic 
expectations  for  all  stakeholders  as  to  the  proper  use  of  the  information  contained  within 
the  reports.  The  FAD  now  has  an  internal  structure  that  includes  a  Chief,  four  Senior 
Psychologists  to  act  as  first  line  supervisors,  and  a  work  force  of  clinicians  to  complete 
the  necessary  assessments  prior  to  the  hearing.  The  newly  developed  structure  enables 


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the  BPH  to  have  more  control  over  the  timeliness  and  quality  of  the  reports.  The  BPH's 
past  reliance  on  subcontractors  and  institution  clinicians  with  competing  workload  made 
it  difficult  to  have  accountability.  Additionally,  the  BPH  undertook  to  align  the  scheduling 
function  at  FAD  with  the  scheduling  of  Lifer  hearings  to  establish  a  prioritization  of 
cases.  The  prioritization  is  focused  on  inmates  with  calendared  hearings.  The 
development  and  implementation  of  a  backfill  process  where  staff  reviews  upcoming 
hearing  calendars  is  to  ensure  that  the  scheduling  unit  assigns  a  clinician  to  complete 
the  psychological  report  and  that  the  clinician  completes  the  report  on  time.  BPH  staff 
review  cases  as  the  hearing  date  approaches  to  ensure  that  the  necessary  documents, 
reports  and  notices  occur  on  time  prior  to  the  hearing.  Finally,  the  BPH  provided 
extensive  training  to  panel  members  about  the  scope  and  use  of  psychological  reports 
during  hearings;  then  distributed  a  new  guideline  to  all  partners  and  stakeholders  to  be 
implemented  on  January  1,  2009. 

With  respect  to  panel  unavailability,  the  BPH  currently  has  12  presiding  Commissioners. 
This  is  not  only  the  greatest  number  of  Commissioners  assigned  to  the  BPH,  but  it  is  the 
first  time  since  1989,  when  there  was  only  a  possibility  of  nine  Commissioners,  that  the 
BPH  has  had  a  full  complement  of  Commissioners.  The  BPH  worked  with  the 
Governor's  office,  and  the  CDCR's  Secretary's  office  to  fill  vacancies,  and  to  minimize 
time  between  appointments  when  Commissioners  are  not  confirmed,  retire  or  resign. 
The  BPH  also  streamlined  its  training  program  to  reduce  the  time  required  to  place 
Commissioners  on  calendars  after  appointment.  We  are  also  exploring  means  to  reduce 
the  number  of  locations  where  the  BPH  conducts  hearings  in  order  to  control  our 
scheduling  functions.  This  will  require  resources  and  coordination  with  DAI,  but  could 
eliminate  postponements  and  prevent  future  backlogs  due  to  the  fact  that  there  are 
Lifers  who  need  hearings  every  week  at  33  locations,  but  there  are  only  12 
Commissioners  available.  Of  course,  panel  unavailability  represents  significant  risk  to 
the  BPH's  ability  to  control  the  backlog. 

Our  analysis  also  showed  that  many  cases  postpone  because  the  inmates  are  not 
ready  to  proceed.  Postponements  that  occur  at  hearings,  regardless  of  the  reason, 
create  an  undue  burden  on  the  system,  because  other  cases  that  are  ready  to  go,  are 
not  heard.  The  required  documents,  reports  and  notices  for  each  case  must  occur  well 
in  advance  of  the  hearing  date,  making  it  impossible  to  place  a  different  case  on  the 
calendar  where  a  postponement  occurs  on  the  day  of  the  hearing.  To  address  the 
competing  interests  of  scheduling  cases  in  a  timely  manner  and  allowing  delays  for 
prisoners  that  are  not  ready  to  proceed,  the  BPH  amended  its  regulation.  Specifically, 
Title  15,  §2253  was  amended  to  allow  prisoners  the  ability  to  voluntarily  waive  hearings 
when  the  request  is  made  45  days  in  advance  of  the  hearing  date;  and  to  postpone 
hearings  only  where  the  prisoner  informs  the  BPH  of  the  need  at  the  earliest  possible 
date.  Historically,  prisoners  had  to  admit  that  they  were  not  suitable  for  parole  in  order 
to  avoid  a  hearing  in  situations  where  the  inmate  was  unprepared  to  go  forward.  The 
BPH  implemented  the  new  regulation  on  November  1 ,  2008. 


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12.  Your  predecessor  said  he  was  researching  the  lifer  and  parole  revocation 
processes  used  by  other  states.  Are  you  continuing  the  research  begun 
under  your  predecessor?  What  has  your  office  learned  about  national  best 
practices  that  could  help  you  with  California's  backlog  as  well  as  training 
policies,  quality  assurance,  consistency,  and/or  oversight? 

I  am  not  aware  of  any  research  of  this  type  occurring  prior  to  my  appointment.  I  have 
been  informed  by  staff  that  a  prior  Rutherford/Lugo  taskforce  developed  ideas  of 
possible  changes  to  the  lifer  process  based  on  research  by  individuals  on  the  taskforce. 
However,  the  current  Rutherford  workgroup  has  contacted  other  states  to  research  the 
structure,  workload,  tenure  of  parole  commissioners  and  composition  of  parole  panels. 
Similarly  we  are  currently  engaged  in  research  about  life  prisoner  suitability  hearing 
processes  and  types  of  hearings.  We  are  also  having  dialogue  with  the  Association  of 
Paroling  Authorities  International  (APAI)  on  a  regular  basis  on  periodic  issues. 

There  has  been  no  research  into  how  other  states  conduct  their  revocation  process 
since  the  process  in  California  is  controlled  by  the  Valdivia  Remedial  Plan  and  is  far 
more  restrictive  than  any  other  state  in  the  United  States.  In  the  past  the  BPH  has 
attended  the  U.S.  Parole  Commission  seminars  held  in  various  parts  of  the  United 
States  yearly,  but  in  the  past  two  years  due  to  the  budget  crisis  in  California  the  Board 
has  been  unable  to  send  a  representative  to  the  seminars. 

Postponements  of  Lifer  Hearings 

The  number  of  scheduled  hearings  has  increased  from  about  4,500  in  2004  to  almost 
7,000  in  2006,  and  over  30  percent  of  these  hearings  continued  to  be  postponed  in 
2006.  In  2007,  6,252  hearings  were  scheduled  and  2,335,  or  37.3  percent,  were 
postponed.  From  January  to  September  of  this  year  there  were  5,582  scheduled 
hearings  and  42.4  percent  were  postponed.  The  postponements  represent  a  loss  of 
taxpayer  dollars  and  additions  to  the  backlog,  as  well  as  being  inconvenient  and  costly 
for  victims,  families,  inmates,  and  attorneys  who  have  prepared  for  the  hearing. 

13.  Many  postponements  have  been  the  result  of  board  members  determining  on 
the  day  of  the  hearing  that  the  file  is  incomplete.  Who  is  responsible  for 
ensuring  that  the  files  are  complete  and  updated  and  when  should  the 
determination  be  made?  Does  this  problem  continue  to  result  in  significant 
numbers  of  postponements?  Please  be  specific. 

In  our  Lifer  workgroup  with  the  Department  of  Adult  Institution  (DAI),  we  have  reiterated 
the  importance  of  timely  documents.  The  institutions  currently  complete  a  hearing 
checklist  prior  to  sending  the  packets  to  the  Board.  Additionally,  the  BPH  reviews  cases 
prior  to  the  hearing  to  ensure  that  packets  include  the  necessary  documentation.  Due  to 
improved  communication  with  DAI,  BPH  staff  now  work  with  DAI  staff  to  remediate 
missing  documentation  prior  to  the  hearing  in  many  cases.  Historically,  the  largest 
contributor  was  psychological  reports  which  the  BPH  has  largely  rectified. 


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14.  To  the  extent  that  hearings  are  postponed  due  to  incomplete  files  or 
information  not  provided  in  a  timely  manner,  how  do  you  track  these 
occurrences  so  you  can  identify  if  there  are  particular  problems  at  certain 
institutions?  How  do  you  communicate  this  information  to  CDCR? 

Currently,  BPH  staff  must  review  hearing  transcripts  and  LSTS  entries  to  identify 
postponements  and  trends  at  certain  institutions.  BPH  and  DAI  have  a  bi-weekly 
workgroup  meeting  in  order  to  identify  problems  and  reach  a  solution  together.  The 
BPH  staff  complete  a  monthly  Executive  Summary  Report  identifying  each 
postponement  specifically  by  issue,  reason  and  institution.  The  results  are  discussed  at 
our  bi-weekly  DAI  workgroup  meeting.  The  BPH  plans  enhancements  to  the  reporting 
functions  in  LSTS  that  will  improve  our  ability  to  pinpoint  and  correct  at  specific 
institutions. 

15.  The  Rules  Committee  has  heard  testimony  about  psychological  evaluations 
that  were  too  old  to  be  useful.  How  old  can  an  evaluation  be  and  still  be  valid 
in  the  hearing  so  postponement  is  avoided? 

The  policy  prior  to  January  1,  2009,  was  a  three-year  validity  period  on  psychological 
evaluations.  Effective  January  1,  2009,  our  new  Psychological  guidelines  require  a 
Comprehensive  Report  every  five  (5)  years  and  a  Subsequent  Report  prior  to  every 
hearing.  However,  existing  reports  before  the  implementation  of  the  guideline  will 
remain  valid  for  three  (3)  years. 

Stipulations 

In  addition  to  postponements,  20  percent  of  the  board's  denials  in  the  first  nine  months 
of  2008  and  17.8  percent  last  year  were  the  result  of  a  stipulation  in  which  the  inmate 
"voluntarily"  agrees  to  postpone  his/her  hearings  on  the  grounds  of  unsuitability  for 
parole.  By  declaring  himself  or  herself  unsuitable,  an  inmate  takes  himself  out  of 
consideration  for  one  to  five  years  because  he  believes  he  is  not  ready  to  be  reviewed. 

16.  In  2007  there  were  more  than  646  stipulations  and  581  in  the  first  nine 
months  of  2008.  Prior  to  2000  there  were  less  than  100  per  year.  What  is  the 
reason  for  the  change?  How  do  you  track  the  reasons  for  stipulations?  Has 
the  policy  or  training  changed  in  a  way  that  would  impact  stipulations? 

Stipulations  present  an  opportunity  for  inmates  who  recognize  that  they  are  not  yet 
prepared  to  parole,  the  opportunity  to  request  the  BPH  to  schedule  another  hearing  at  a 
future  requested  time.  A  review  of  the  increase  in  the  number  of  stipulations  does  not 
clearly  show  a  particular  reason  or  trend.  The  reason  for  the  increase  is  speculative,  it 
may  be  due  to  the  fact  that  the  number  of  hearings  conducted  has  doubled  since  2000. 
The  increase  in  prisoner  litigation  that  tests  the  parameters  of  the  Board's  and  the 


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Governor's  jurisdiction  may  also  contribute  to  the  increase,  as  inmates  look  for  courts  to 
weigh  in  prior  to  participation  in  hearings. 

The  Board,  due  to  a  recent  regulatory  change,  anticipates  a  significant  decrease  in  the 
number  of  Stipulations  in  the  coming  years.  The  modification  in  BPH  policy  is  reflected 
in  Title  15,  §2253.  Specifically,  the  Board  by  regulation  created  a  voluntary  waiver  that 
allows  the  prisoner  to  waive  the  parole  hearing  for  one  to  five  years  without  making  an 
admission  to  unsuitability.  The  Board  presumes  valid  waiver  requests  made  45  or  more 
days  prior  to  the  hearing.  The  Commissioners  and  Deputy  Commissioner  have  been 
trained  in  the  change  of  regulation  and  the  implementation  of  the  new  regulation. 

The  ability  to  track  the  number  of  stipulations  has  been  available  for  years,  but  the 
tracking  of  the  reasons  for  stipulations  was  only  recently  developed  through  the  Lifer 
Scheduling  Tracking  System.  The  process  remains  the  same:  inmates  request 
stipulations  by  filling  out  a  form  that  states  the  reasons  for  the  request  and  the  panel's 
findings  when  granting  or  denying  the  request.  CDCR  retains  a  copy  of  the  form  in  the 
prisoner's  central  file.  Additionally,  panel  members  and  Board  staff  record  the 
disposition  of  all  scheduling  hearings,  including  Stipulations,  in  the  LSTS  database. 

17.  The  Valdivia  lawsuit  has  resulted  in  significant  changes  in  the  parole 
revocation  process  with  the  goal  of  providing  fair  and  timely  hearings.  How 
do  you  measure  your  success  in  complying  with  Valdivia? 

Parole  Revocation  Hearings 

The  heart  of  the  Valdivia  Remedial  Plan  requires  the  BPH  to  meet  specific  timeframes 
not  only  in  conducting  return  to  custody  assessments,  probable  cause  hearings  and 
revocation  hearings,  but  also  requires  the  BPH  to  ensure  that  each  parolee  is  appointed 
counsel  at  a  specific  time  in  the  revocation  process.  The  remedial  plan  additionally 
requires  the  consideration  at  every  step  of  the  process  to  placing  the  parolee  into  a 
remedial  sanction.  The  BPH  Deputy  Commissioners  are  required  under  the  remedial 
plan  to  only  use  hearsay  in  the  hearings  if  the  introduction  of  the  hearsay  evidence 
meets  a  case  law  standard.  In  order  to  ensure  that  the  BPH  is  in  compliance  we 
maintain  various  systems  to  measure  compliance  with  the  Valdivia  remedial  plan.  The 
primary  system  used  by  the  BPH  is  referred  to  as  the  Revocation  and  Scheduling 
Tracking  System  (RSTS).  With  the  assistance  of  an  outside  contractor,  BPH  developed 
RSTS,  which  is  a  real  time  database  designed  to  assist  with  management  of  daily 
workload  and  with  the  monitoring  of  compliance  with  the  remedial  plan.  The  BPH  has 
continued  to  upgrade  RSTS  by  adding  new  reports  to  more  accurately  measure  levels 
of  compliance  with  various  components  of  the  Injunction.  RSTS  is  also  used  as  a 
management  tool  to  assist  the  BPH  with  other  requirements  such  as  remedial 
sanctions. 

The  RSTS  system  contains  detailed  information  about  each  case  in  the  system  and  is 
capable  of  producing  a  number  of  reports  tailored  for  management  purposes  and  it 


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allows  the  BPH  to  measure  how  it  comports  with  requirements  of  the  injunction.  These 
reports  allow  for  the  examination  of  performance  standards  of  individual  staff.  The 
reports  can  also  alert  managers  of  approaching  deadlines.  In  addition  RSTS  generates 
several  reports  that  measure  timeliness  in  the  various  Valdivia  steps  in  the  revocation 
process.  According  to  a  recent  Valdivia  timeliness  report  in  RSTS,  the  BPH  averaged 
95.6  %  compliance  with  timeliness  at  the  probable  cause  and  parole  revocation  hearing 
steps  between  January  2008  and  November  2008.  The  BPH  considers  this  substantial 
compliance  and  discussions  have  begun  with  the  Special  Masters  appointed  by  the 
Valdivia  Court,  to  define  how  the  Court  measures  "substantial  compliance". 

Probable  cause  and  revocation  hearings  are  conducted  by  deputy  commissioners. 
Given  the  large  number  of  hearings  conducted  in  the  revocation  process  (in  2007  there 
were  91,063  probable  cause  hearings  and  almost  22,000  parole  revocation  hearings) 
BPH  considers  the  95.6  %  to  be  successful  implementation. 

18.  What  do  you  believe  are  the  biggest  challenges  for  BPH  in  the  revocation 
process? 

Currently,  the  biggest  challenge  for  BPH  in  the  revocation  process  is  coordinating  a 
Valdivia  exit  strategy  with  all  parties  pertinent  to  the  class  action.  In  order  to  begin  this 
process  the  department  must  come  to  an  agreement  with  the  Plaintiffs'  and  Federal 
Special  Masters  on  the  definition  and  meaning  of  "substantial  compliance"  as  it  pertains 
to  the  requirements  set  forth  in  the  Injunction.  In  addition,  there  are  a  few  remaining 
issues  that  need  to  be  implemented  before  the  BPH  can  be  completely  in  substantial 
compliance,  for  example  implement  the  finalized  mentally  ill  revocation  process  plan, 
and  complete  negotiations  on  the  BPH  decision  review  process. 

19.  Do  you  track  consistency  in  revocation  decisions?  If  so,  please  explain  this 
process. 

In  addition  to  utilization  of  RSTS  reports,  the  BPH  established  a  Quality  Control  Unit 
(QCU)  and  Monitoring  Compliance/Review  Units  (MCRU).  The  purpose  of  the  Quality 
Control  Unit  is  to  review  a  random  10%  of  all  revocation  decisions  to  ensure  not  only 
consistent  decisions,  but  quality  decisions.  The  regulation  under  the  California  Code  of 
Regulations  (CCR)  sets  forth  guidelines  for  the  BPH  hearing  officers  to  use  when 
assessing  whether  a  return  to  custody  is  warranted.  The  Quality  Control  Unit  staff 
conducts  random  reviews  on  a  percentage  of  all  parole  revocation  hearing  actions  to 
ensure  they  comply  with  policies  and  regulation.  The  results  of  the  random  reviews  and 
a  subsequent  analysis  are  forwarded  to  the  Associate  Chief  Deputy  Commissioner 
(ACDC)  over  the  two  units.  The  ACDC  of  Quality  Control  and  Monitoring  reviews  and  if 
appropriate  forwards  to  the  supervising  ACDC  and  Deputy  Commissioner  (DC)  that 
heard  the  case.  These  reviews  are  used  to  ensure  quality,  consistency,  compliance 
with  policy,  identify  systemic  problems  and  for  training  purposes.  These  reviews  help  to 
supplement  direct  supervision.  In  addition  to  the  random  reviews,  ACDCs  are  also 
required  to  perform  routine  monitoring  and  review  of  DC  decisions.  These  reviews 


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assist  the  supervisors  to  ensure  quality  assurance  and  the  information  garnered  from 
these  systems  also  helps  to  guide  with  the  development  of  remedial  training  .During  the 
course  of  numerous  meet  and  confers  with  plaintiffs'  counsel  and  the  federal  special 
masters  in  Valdivia  the  court  ordered  the  State  to  develop  a  self-monitoring  unit.  The 
self-monitoring  unit  goes  to  the  field  to  monitor  the  department's  compliance  in  the 
various  areas  of  the  remedial  plan.  At  the  conclusion  of  the  monitoring  tour,  a  report  is 
compiled  and  sent  to  each  division  of  CDCR  with  observation  both  negative  and 
positive.  In  response,  the  BPH  has  developed  a  Monitoring  Compliance/Review  Unit. 
This  unit  reviews  the  portions  of  the  monitoring  reports  by  the  self-monitors  as  well  as 
all  compliance  reports  submitted  to  the  court  by  the  Special  Master  and  Deputy  Special 
Masters  that  speak  to  the  BPH's  portion  of  the  process,  compiles  the  identified 
deficiencies  and  forwards  to  the  appropriate  ACDC  of  the  area  monitored.  The  ACDC 
then  reviews  and  responds  with  a  written  corrective  action  plan.  The  monitoring  unit 
follows  up  monthly  and  documents  the  results  of  the  corrective  action  plan. 

20.  A  deputy  commissioner  may  choose  to  order  remedial  sanctions  for  a 
parolee  rather  than  return  the  parolee  to  state  prison.  Are  your  deputy 
commissioners  kept  informed  of  the  availability  of  remedial  sanction 
options?  Is  it  possible  that  remedial  sanctions  can  be  ordered  but  not 
provided  due  to  lack  of  alternative  programs? 

The  Deputy  Commissioners  have  been  provided  with  the  names  and  locations  of  all 
programs  that  have  contracted  with  the  state  to  provide  remedial  sanctions  to  parolees. 
The  policies  and  procedures  under  Valdivia  require  that  when  a  parolee  is  referred  by 
the  Department  of  Adult  Parole  Operations  (DAPO)  to  a  remedial  sanction  the 
availability  of  space  is  confirmed  by  a  Parole  Administrator  prior  to  referral  to  the  Deputy 
Commissioner.  Further,  if  the  Deputy  Commissioner  decides  to  place  the  parolee  into  a 
remedial  sanction  when  the  parolee  was  not  referred  for  placement  by  DAPO  the 
Deputy  Commissioner  contacts  the  Parole  Administrator  for  confirmation  of  bed  space. 
Daily  availability  in  programs  is  provided  by  the  Department  of  Addiction  Recovery 
Services  to  the  Parole  Administrators  and  Deputy  Commissioners. 

In  some  cases  the  beds  are  full  or  the  available  beds  are  filled  on  the  same  day,  but 
prior  to  the  referral.  There  are  occasions  when  parolees  are  ordered  to  a  remedial 
sanction  program  and  the  remedial  sanction  program  is  no  longer  available  when  the 
parolee  is  ready  for  placement.  In  order  to  reduce  and  eliminate  this  problem  the 
DARS,  BPH  and  DAPO  are  increasing  their  coordination  activities. 

Coordination  Between  the  Board  and  Department 

There  are  a  number  of  issues  related  to  coordination  between  BPH  and  CDCR  where  it 
is  unclear  who  bears  the  ultimate  responsibility  for  these  issues. 


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21.  At  the  Division  of  Juvenile  Justice,  parole  board  members  have  met  regularly 
with  superintendents  of  juvenile  facilities,  with  both  sides  indicating  the 
experience  was  positive.  Do  BPH  members  meet  with  wardens  or  other 
custody  staff  to  improve  coordination? 

In  January  of  2008,  the  BPH  and  CDCR  established  a  workgroup  to  review  the  entire 
life  parole  consideration  hearing  process  and  to  identify  problems  or  inefficiencies,  and 
to  develop  solutions.  The  Undersecretary  of  CDCR  and  the  Executive  Officer  headed 
the  workgroup.  One  of  the  first  recommendations  implemented  is  increasing 
communication  between  the  Wardens  and  their  designees  and  the  Commissioners. 
The  Undersecretary  met  individually  with  each  Commissioner  to  hear  their  concerns. 
The  Undersecretary  directed  the  Wardens  or  their  designees  to  meet  regularly  with 
Commissioners  who  were  conducting  hearings  at  their  prisons  to  address  any  ongoing 
issues  at  the  institutions. 

In  the  revocation  process  the  lines  of  communication  are  open  between  departments  by 
way  of  a  bi-weekly  Valdivia  taskforce  meeting.  All  CDCR  divisions  are  represented  at 
the  taskforce  meetings.  Additionally,  there  are  regular  meetings  with  BPH,  DAPO,  DAI 
and  DARS  staff  whenever  a  problem  with  compliance  is  identified  and  needs  resolution 
between  departments.  The  open  and  frequent  communication  between  departments 
has  been  pivotal  in  CDCR's  success  in  compliance  with  the  Valdivia  Remedial  Plan. 

22.  The  department  has  taken  steps  to  assess  more  inmates  upon  entry  to 
prison  and  send  them  to  appropriate  educational  or  treatment  programs  in 
their  final  three  years  of  incarceration.  Has  CDCR  discussed  with  you  the 
impact  of  this  change  on  the  ability  of  life-term  inmates  to  participate  in 
education  and  other  programs,  including  drug  treatment?  How  are  board 
members  informed  of  programs  available  to  life-term  inmates? 

The  state's  current  fiscal  crisis  creates  significant  challenges  for  CDCR  as  it  relates  to 
providing  programming  for  inmates.  As  resources  for  education  and  drug  related 
programs  are  reduced,  programs  directly  available  to  the  Lifer  population  diminish 
accordingly.  CDCR  faces  specific  challenges  related  to  the  Lifer  population  as  the 
timeframes  for  these  inmates'  releases  remain  unknown,  making  allocation  to  Lifer 
programs  difficult  given  the  competing  interest  of  funding  programs  aimed  at  serving 
prisoners  within  three  years  of  release. 

In  order  to  keep  the  Commissioners  apprised  of  the  CDCR's  policy  surrounding  prisoner 
programs,  the  BPH  invited  Carol  Hood,  Chief  Deputy  Secretary,  CDCR  Programs,  to 
present  an  overview  of  the  AB900  implementation  related  directly  to  prison  programs  at 
the  September  2008  Board  Meeting.  Additionally,  the  Commissioners  were  provided  a 
field  guide  of  programs  available  by  institution  during  our  semi-annual  training  seminar 
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Compensation  and  Monitoring  of  Attorneys 

Compensation  for  attorneys  who  conduct  parole  revocation  hearings  is  governed  by  the 
Valdivia  lawsuit  in  which  a  federal  court  found  that  delays  in  the  parole  revocation 
process  violated  due  process  protections.  Attorneys  receive  a  flat  fee  of  $185  per  case 
for  these  parole  revocation  hearings.  Compensation  for  those  who  handle  lifer  hearings 
has  not  been  adjusted  in  recent  years.  These  attorneys  receive  $30  per  hour,  with  a  cap 
in  most  cases  of  six  to  eight  hours  including  travel  time  to  the  prison. 

23.  Who  decides  to  request  an  increase  in  compensation  for  lifer  attorneys?  Is 
that  your  responsibility,  the  BPH  chair,  or  CDCR? 

In  my  opinion,  the  first  line  responsibility  to  request  a  salary  increase  for  lifer  attorneys 
rests  with  the  Executive  Officer  of  BPH.  Like  any  request  for  increased  funding,  it 
should  be  based  on  reasoned  public  policy,  should  either  solve  or  prevent  a  problem, 
and  be  based  on  sound  fiscal  analysis.  In  response  to  previous  questioning  on  this 
subject,  the  BPH  agreed  to  analyze  the  issue.  We  learned  the  thirty  dollar  per  hour  rate 
for  lifer  attorneys  had  remained  unchanged  for  roughly  ten  years  and  that  the  BPH  was 
having  difficulty  funding  attorneys  for  this  work  both  in  general  and  in  certain 
geographical  areas  of  the  state  (central  valley  and  southern  desert).  When  compared  to 
similar  markets  (e.g.  counties,  public  defenders),  we  found  that  our  thirty  dollar  an  hour 
rate  was  below  market.  Our  survey  suggested  a  fair  and  competitive  market  rate  would 
approximate  fifty  dollars  per  hour.  The  BPH  and  CDCR  recommended  this  increase  as 
part  of  the  state's  budget  proposal.  The  CDCR  concurred  and  forwarded  the 
recommendation  to  the  Department  of  Finance  for  consideration. 

24.  BPH  had  a  salary  structure  that  gave  little  incentive  for  deputy 
commissioners  to  seek  promotion  to  the  supervisor  level  because  they 
receive  a  more  generous  retirement  than  their  supervisors  (2.5%  at  50  and  no 
deductions  for  social  security  as  opposed  to  2%  at  55  with  deductions  for 
social  security)  that  results  in  several  hundred  dollars  monthly  less  take 
home  pay.  Has  this  problem  been  addressed?  Are  there  other  issues  of 
salary  compaction  at  BPH?  Please  explain. 

The  BPH  salary  compaction  problem  between  Deputy  Commissioners  and  their 
supervisors  has  existed  for  approximately  eight  years.  BPH  and  CDCR  recently 
proposed  a  number  of  options  to  remedy  the  problem  and  we  are  actively  working  with 
DPA  on  a  viable  solution. 

25.  How  is  the  quality  of  attorney  representation  monitored  for  both  parole 
revocation  and  parole  suitability  hearings? 

In  the  revocation  process  the  BPH  has  a  contract  with  the  McGeorge  School  of  Law  to 
provide  attorney  representation  for  parolees  statewide.  The  division  of  McGeorge  that 
provides  the  attorneys  is  called  the  California  Parole  Advocacy  Program  (CalPAP).  The 


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Compensation  and  Monitoring  of  Attorneys 

Compensation  for  attorneys  who  conduct  parole  revocation  hearings  is  governed  by  the 
Valdivia  lawsuit  in  which  a  federal  court  found  that  delays  in  the  parole  revocation 
process  violated  due  process  protections.  Attorneys  receive  a  flat  fee  of  $185  per  case 
for  these  parole  revocation  hearings.  Compensation  for  those  who  handle  lifer  hearings 
has  not  been  adjusted  in  recent  years.  These  attorneys  receive  $30  per  hour,  with  a  cap 
in  most  cases  of  six  to  eight  hours  including  travel  time  to  the  prison. 

23.  Who  decides  to  request  an  increase  in  compensation  for  lifer  attorneys?  Is 
that  your  responsibility,  the  BPH  chair,  or  CDCR? 

In  my  opinion,  the  first  line  responsibility  to  request  a  salary  increase  for  lifer  attorneys 
rests  with  the  Executive  Officer  of  BPH.  Like  any  request  for  increased  funding,  it 
should  be  based  on  reasoned  public  policy,  should  either  solve  or  prevent  a  problem, 
and  be  based  on  sound  fiscal  analysis.  In  response  to  previous  questioning  on  this 
subject,  the  BPH  agreed  to  analyze  the  issue.  We  learned  the  thirty  dollar  per  hour  rate 
for  lifer  attorneys  had  remained  unchanged  for  roughly  ten  years  and  that  the  BPH  was 
having  difficulty  funding  attorneys  for  this  work  both  in  general  and  in  certain 
geographical  areas  of  the  state  (central  valley  and  southern  desert).  When  compared  to 
similar  markets  (e.g.  counties,  public  defenders),  we  found  that  our  thirty  dollar  an  hour 
rate  was  below  market.  Our  survey  suggested  a  fair  and  competitive  market  rate  would 
approximate  fifty  dollars  per  hour.  The  BPH  recommended  this  increase  as  part  of  the 
state's  budget  proposal.  The  CDCR  concurred  and  forwarded  the  recommendation  to 
the  Department  of  Finance  for  consideration. 

24.  BPH  had  a  salary  structure  that  gave  little  incentive  for  deputy 
commissioners  to  seek  promotion  to  the  supervisor  level  because  they 
receive  a  more  generous  retirement  than  their  supervisors  (2.5%  at  50  and  no 
deductions  for  social  security  as  opposed  to  2%  at  55  with  deductions  for 
social  security)  that  results  in  several  hundred  dollars  monthly  less  take 
home  pay.  Has  this  problem  been  addressed?  Are  there  other  issues  of 
salary  compaction  at  BPH?  Please  explain. 

The  BPH  salary  compaction  problem  between  Deputy  Commissioners  and  their 
supervisors  has  existed  for  approximately  eight  years.  BPH  and  CDCR  recently 
proposed  a  number  of  options  to  remedy  the  problem  and  we  are  actively  working  with 
DPA  on  a  viable  solution. 

25.  How  is  the  quality  of  attorney  representation  monitored  for  both  parole 
revocation  and  parole  suitability  hearings? 

In  the  revocation  process  the  BPH  has  a  contract  with  the  McGeorge  School  of  Law  to 
provide  attorney  representation  for  parolees  statewide.  The  division  of  McGeorge  that 
provides  the  attorneys  is  called  the  California  Parole  Advocacy  Program  (CalPAP).  The 


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contract  between  McGeorge  and  the  BPH  requires  CalPAP  to  be  responsible  for  the 
training  and  oversight  of  the  attorneys  to  ensure  quality  representation  to  parolees 
during  the  revocation  process. 

Respectfully  submitted, 


Martin  N.  Hoshino,  Executive  Officer 
Board  of  Parole  Hearings 


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The  California  Managed  Risk  Medical  Insurance  Board  Board  Members 

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December  15,  2008 

Honorable  Darrell  Steinberg,  Chair  Senate  itetes  Commitfefe 
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Sacramento,  CA  95814 

Dear  Senator  Steinberg: 

Thank  you  for  considering  my  reappointment  to  the  Managed  Risk  Medical  Insurance 
Board  (MRMIB).   I  have  enjoyed  serving  two  Governors,  the  Insurance  Commissioner 
and  the  people  of  California  in  that  capacity.   I  have  endeavored  below  to  answer  the 
questions  posed  to  me  by  the  Rules  Committee. 

Goals 

1.    You  have  a  long  history  of  working  for  and  with  MRMIB.   For  five  years  you  were 
deputy  director  at  MRMIB,  and  previously  attended  MRMIB  meetings  representing 
Insurance  Commissioner  John  Garamendi  as  a  voting  member.   Please  provide  us 
with  a  brief  statement  of  your  goals.   What  do  you  hope  to  accomplish  during  your 
four-year  term  as  a  board  member  of  MRMIB?  How  has  MRMIB  changed  over  the 
years  from  its  initial  formation  and  the  creation  of  HFP? 


I  have  been  honored  to  both  work  at  MRMIB  and  serve  on  the  Board  these  last  five 
years. 

As  you  know,  MRMIB  is  frequently  looked  to  for  its  policy  expertise  in  the  health 
insurance  area  and,  as  important,  its  facile  and  prompt  implementation  and  smooth 
operation  of  its  health  insurance  programs.  One  of  my  primary  goals  is  to  sustain  this 
capacity  during  the  difficult  period  of  the  state's  fiscal  impairment.    Another  long 
standing  policy  of  the  Board  is  to  provide  guidance  to  staff  from  the  perspective  of  good 
government.  While  there  are  appointees  on  the  Board  from  the  Governor,  the  Senate 
and  the  Assembly,  the  Board  works  very  effectively  as  a  team  because  the  members  all 
have  the  same  goal;  ensuring  that  our  programs  provide  cost-effective,  high  quality 
coverage  to  our  subscribers.   I  will  continue  to  work  in  this  co-operative,  principled 
partnership  as  we  seek  to  enroll  all  eligible  children  into  Healthy  Families.  It  is  also  my 
goal  to  achieve  universal  coverage  for  children  and  to  implement  comprehensive  health 
insurance  reform  such  that  the  necessity  for  the  Major  Risk  Medical  Insurance  Program 
ceases  to  exist. 


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I  think  the  Board's  role  and  philosophy  has  been  consistent  over  the  years.  While  its 
program  responsibilities  and  staffing  has  grown,  it  has  always  focused  on  providing 
cost-effective,  quality  health  care  using  the  latest  technology  (delivery  practices  and 
medical  homes).  And  it  has  always  sought  to  be  a  voice  for  covering  the  uninsured,  a 
role  it  takes  very  seriously. 

2.  What  do  you  see  as  the  biggest  challenges  before  the  board? 

I  am  hopeful  that  as  California  and  the  country  continue  to  wrestle  with  the  need  to 
enact  comprehensive  health  reform,  MRMIB  will  be  able  to  be  of  service.   I  was,  of 
course,  disappointed  by  the  failure  of  AB  1X  and  had  looked  forward  to  the  Board's  role 
in  implementing  many  of  its  provisions.  AB  1X  presented  many  implementation 
challenges  but  I  felt  that  the  Board  would  have  been  able  to  handle  the  challenges 
effectively.  The  Board's  public  decision-making  forum,  the  fact  that  Board  members 
have  the  confidence  of  the  Legislature  and  the  Governor,  and  the  Board's  track  record 
of  listening  to  all  but  making  timely  decisions  would  have  produced  a  good  result.   In  the 
context  of  the  Board's  current  programs,  I  especially  valued  the  provisions  of  AB  1X 
that  would  have  eliminated  the  need  for  a  separate  program  for  medically  uninsurable 
people  and  covered  all  children. 

In  addition,  as  all  of  the  Board's  programs  are  heavily  dependent  on  state  funding,  the 
state's  fiscal  crisis  may  mean  that  the  programs  will  struggle  for  sufficient  funding.  Of 
course  this  is  the  case  for  all  of  the  state's  General  Fund  supported  programs,  but 
having  to  manage  programs  without  additional  funds  will  be  a  major  challenge. 

SCHIP 

3.  How  much  would  SCHIP  need  to  be  increased  if  the  costs  of  California's  current 
HFP  and  AIM  and  expected  program  growth  were  to  be  covered? 

The  amount  of  SCHIP  needed  will  vary  depending  on  the  reauthorization  period.    The 
California  Health  Care  Foundation  contracted  with  Harbage  Consulting  to  update  a 
report  released  last  spring  titled  Funding  California's  SCHIP  Coverage:  What  Will  It 
Cost.   Harbage  Consulting  is  currently  updating  the  figures  included  in  that  report  which 
is  scheduled  for  release  early  in  2009.  According  to  the  first  report,  the  estimated 
federal  contribution  needed  for  Healthy  Families  Program  (HFP)  is  between  $4.7  billion 
to  $5.7  billion  over  the  next  five  years.  This  amount  reflects  federal  dollars  only  and  is 
based  on  HFP  costs  per  child,  the  growth  in  enrollment,  and  the  costs  for  severely 
emotionally  disturbed  children  and  other  programs  funded  through  S-CHIP  dollars.  .   It 
was  Mr.  Harbage's  assessment  that  the  first  bill  vetoed  by  President  Bush,  referred  to 
as  CHIPRA,  would  have  provided  this  level  of  funding  to  California. 


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The  estimated  amount  needed  for  the  Access  for  Infants  and  Mothers  (AIM)  is  between 
$566  million  to  $695  million  in  federal  funding  over  the  next  five  years.  This  amount  is 
based  on  the  growth  in  payment  rates  and  enrollment.  Funds  needed  for  AIM  were 
included  in  the  CHFC  report. 

The  Board  will  continue  to  advocate  the  appropriate  amount  to  fulfill  its  long-term 
enrollment  projections. 

4.  Has  the  board  taken  any  position  regarding  SCHIP  reauthorization?  Is  it  working 
with  the  Governor's  office  or  the  California  Congressional  delegation  on 
reauthorization  or  looking  into  other  options  to  address  the  shortfall? 

The  Board  has  taken  a  very  active  role  in  working  for  SCHIP  reauthorization.   It  solicited 
assistance  from  the  California  Health  Care  Foundation  for  an  analysis  of  California's 
funding  requirements.   Harbage  Consulting,  which  issued  this  analysis  last  May,  is  in 
the  process  of  updating  the  figures  right  now  as  noted  above.   MRMIB's  Executive 
Director  is  part  of  the  SCHIP  Director's  workgroup  on  reauthorization.  Representing  by 
far  the  largest  SCHIP  program  in  the  country,  she  has  testified  before  Congress  and 
conducted  several  briefings  with  Congressional  staff.   In  January,  she  will  be  speaking 
on  SCHIP  to  new  Congressional  staff  at  the  National  Health  Policy  forum.  She 
participates  in  periodic  meetings  with  California  advocates  and  stakeholders  who  are 
tracking  SCHIP  reauthorization.   I  would  add  that  the  Governor  himself  has  been  very 
involved  in  ensuring  that  California's  interests  are  addressed  in  SCHIP  reauthorization. 

Healthy  Families  Program 

5.  How  much  has  recent  caseload  growth  differed  from  the  board's  original  estimated 
caseload?  Does  HFP  have  any  historical  data  to  draw  from  the  estimate  caseload 
in  recessionary  times? 

The  most  recent  budget  estimates  assumed  enrollment  of  905,486  as  of  June  30, 
2009.  This  included  an  expected  caseload  reduction  of  30,362  children  due  to  the 
implementation  of  a  premium  increase  for  families  with  incomes  above  150  percent  of 
federal  poverty  level  (FPL).  Research  has  documented  caseload  decreases  when 
premiums  were  increased.  However,  given  the  severe  decline  in  the  economy,  it  is  not 
known  whether  or  not  this  enrollment  decline  will  occur.  The  caseload  estimate  without 
the  projected  decrease  would  have  been  935,848. 

MRMIB  has  historical  HFP  caseload  data  going  back  to  its  inception,  but  MRMIB  has 
never  done  an  analysis  examining  caseload  during  times  of  recession.  There  does  not 
appear  to  be  consensus  on  when  California's  economy  was  in  a  recession. 
http://Recession.org  indicates  that  the  most  recent  recessions  were:  April  2000  to 


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October  2001  and  October  2008  to  present.  Another  source  indicates  that  the  most 
recent  recessions  were  March  2001  to  November  2001  and  December  2007  to  present. 

During  the  period  April  2000  to  October  2001 ,  HFP  caseload  increased  from  271 ,738  to 
489,257  children  (an  80  percent  increase).  It  is  unclear  what  percentage  of  this  growth 
was  due  to  the  recession  or  the  fact  that  there  was  a  significant  media  budget  and 
campaign  underway  at  that  time  and  that  the  program  was  still  relatively  new.  Between 
December  2007  to  November  2008,  HFP  experienced  caseload  growth  from  866,031  to 
894,009  children  (a  3.2  percent  increase).  As  a  result,  it  is  hard  to  draw  any 
conclusions  (yet)  from  the  available  data. 

6.  Although  the  board  is  required  to  operate  HFP  within  its  budget,  it  is  not  precluded 

from  requesting  additional  funds  from  the  Governor.  Has  the  board  discussed  any 
other  options  for  funding? 

The  Board  directed  the  Executive  Director  to  assess  and  pursue  alternate  funding 
possibilities.  The  Board  worked  closely  with  the  California  Health  and  Human  Services 
Agency  to  seek  funds  from  the  California  First  Five  Commission.  Thankfully,  the  State 
First  Five  Commission  voted  to  provide  the  funding  necessary  to  forestall  a  waiting  list 
in  this  fiscal  year.  Additionally,  two  members  of  the  Board,  Doctors  Chang  and  Crowell, 
sent  the  Governor  and  the  Legislative  leadership  a  letter  requesting  assistance  so  that 
the  Board  did  not  have  to  establish  a  waiting  list. 

Major  Risk  Medical  Insurance  Program 

7.  Historically,  MRMIP  has  been  funded  annually  with  $40  million  of  Proposition  99 
funds,  but  the  program  has  had  ongoing  waiting  lists.   This  year  Proposition  99 
funding  was  reduced  to  $36  million.   With  the  additional  $10  million  from  the 
Managed  Care  Administrative  Fines  and  Penalties  Fund,  what  does  MRMIB 
estimate  will  be  the  number  of  subscribers  it  will  be  able  to  enroll?  Will  this 
additional  funding  eliminate  the  waiting  list?  What  does  MRMIB  estimate  the  level  of 
transfer  will  be  from  the  Managed  Care  Administrative  Fines  and  Penalties  Fund  for 
the  next  five  years? 

Due  to  declining  Proposition  99  revenues,  the  proposed  2008-09  Governor's  Budget  did 
reduce  funding  for  the  Major  Risk  Medical  Insurance  Program  (MRMIP)  to  $36  million. 
However  in  the  May  Revision,  the  proposed  funding  level  for  MRMIP  was  increased  by 
$2.9  million.  This  action  was  approved  by  the  Legislature  and  resulted  in  a  total  of 
$38.9  million  for  MRMIP  in  2008-09. 


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The  $10  million  transferred  to  MRMIP  as  a  result  of  SB  1379  (Ducheny)  allowed 
MRMIB  to  offer  slots  to  91 5  (all)  potential  subscribers  who  were  on  the  wait  list  as  of 
October  2008.  However,  the  wait  list  immediately  started  rebuilding. 

At  the  Board's  November  18,  2008  meeting,  the  Board  set  the  MRMIP  enrollment  cap 
based  on  an  analysis  PricewaterhouseCoopers  (PwC)  conducted  using  the  most  recent 
enrollment  and  cost  information.   PwC  recommended  that  MRMIP  enrollment 
immediately  return  to  an  enrollment  level  of  7,100  through  normal  population  attrition 
once  the  enrollment  from  the  915  offers  had  occurred.   PwC  further  recommended  that 
no  additional  slots  be  offered  beyond  the  915  unless  needed  to  sustain  the  7,100 
enrollment  target.  As  of  December  7,  2008,  213  individuals  were  waitlisted  due  to  the 
enrollment  cap. 

SB  1379  provided  a  one  time  transfer  of  $10  million  to  MRMIP.   In  future  years, 
however,  SB  1379  provides  for  the  transfer  of  any  DMHC  fine  revenues  that  exceed  $1 
million  to  MRMIP  annually  each  September.  The  table  below  shows  the  history  of  fine 
revenue  collected  by  DMHC  in  past  years: 


Fiscal  Year 

Fines 
Collected 

Fine  Revenue 
Over  $1  million 

2000-01 

$     409,000 

0 

2001-02 

$     640,000 

0 

2002-03 

$2,116,000 

$   1,116,000 

2003-04 

$     779,000 

0 

2004-05 

$  1,141,000 

$      141,000 

2005-06 

$     965,000 

0 

2006-07 

$  3,907,000 

$  2,907,000 

2007-08 

$7,018,000 

$  6,018,000 

2008-09 

$13,000,000 

$12,000,000** 

'SB  1379  actually  transferred  $10  million 


o  MRMIB  in  2008-09 


There  is  no  way  to  predict  what  DMHC  fine  revenues  might  be  available  to  MRMIB  in 
the  future.  A  simple  average  would  indicate  that  had  this  bill  been  in  place,  MRMIB 
would  have  received  an  average  of  $2.5  million  in  fines  over  the  past  nine  years. 
However,  the  fine  revenue  collected  in  2008-09  is  twice  the  amount  ever  collected  due 
to  the  unusual  circumstances  surround  the  HMO  rescission  issues.  Therefore,  an 
average  of  the  previous  eight  years  would  be  $1 .3  million.  The  real  solution  is  to  enact 
the  Governor's  proposal  to  offer  guarantee  issuance  of  individual  coverage  coupled  with 
an  individual  mandate  so  that  persons  with  high-risk  conditions  do  not  have  to  rely  on 
declining  (tobacco  tax)  or  unstable  (fines)  funding  sources  to  assist  in  spreading  their 
medical  risk. 


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5.    The  Governor  vetoed  AB  2  (Dymally)  that  would  have  stabilized  MRMIP  by  creating 
two  new  funding  sources  for  the  program.  AB  2  would  have  required  carriers  in  the 
individual  health  insurance  market  to  accept  for  coverage  all  persons  assigned  to 
them  for  MRMIP  or  pay  a  fee,  and  included  program  changes  to  enable  MRMIP  to 
be  eligible  for  federal  funds.  MRMIB  took  a  support  position  on  AB  2.   Will  you,  as  a 
board  member  revisit  this  issue  in  20091 

I  am  immensely  concerned  that  persons  wishing  to  purchase  coverage  in  the  individual 
market  are  left  uninsured  because  they  have  a  condition  viewed  as  risky  by  an  insurer. 
The  rest  of  the  Board  and  I  will  revisit  this  or  any  other  proposal  as  put  forth  by  the 
Governor  or  the  Legislature.  The  bottom  line  is  that  the  Board  stands  for  coverage  of 
all  individuals  and  will  carefully  review  any  and  all  means  of  achieving  this  goal. 

Thank  you  again  for  your  consideration  of  my  re-appointment  to  the  Managed  Risk 
Medical  Insurance  Board.   I  am  available  to  answer  any  questions. 


Respectfully, 

Richard  Figueroa     v 
Board  Member 


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GREGORY  SCHMIDT 
SAMAANESTAD  /^SiSS^'V  secretary  op  the  senate 

vice-chair  £5?Ml2§W$^  NETTIE  SABELHAUS 

APPOINTMENTS  DIRECTOR 

GILBERT  CEDILLO 
ROBERT  DUTTON 
JENNY  OROPEZA 


December  18,  2008 


Senate  Rules  Committee 

DARRELL  STEINBERG 

CHAIRMAN 


Hon.  John  P.  McGinness 
Sacramento  County  Sheriffs  Department 
711  G  Street 
Sacramento,  CA  95814 

Dear  Sheriff  McGinness: 

The  Senate  Rules  Committee  will  conduct  a  confirmation  hearing  on  your  appointment 
as  a  member  of  the  Commission  on  Peace  Officer  Standards  and  Training  (POST)  on 
Wednesday,  January  14,  2009.  You  are  not  required  to  appear,  but  we  request  that  you 
respond  in  writing  to  the  following  questions.  Please  provide  your  responses  by  January 
6,  2009. 

We  would  also  like  to  receive  an  updated  Form  700,  Statement  of  Economic  Interest,  by 
January  6th. 


Goals 

1.      Please  provide  us  with  a  brief  statement  of  your  goals.  What  do  you  hope  to 

accomplish  as  a  member  of  the  commission?  How  will  you  measure  your  success 
in  meeting  these  goals? 


Background 

After  your  election  as  Sacramento  County  Sheriff  in  June  2006,  you  made  a  number  of 
changes  in  the  Sacramento  County  Main  Jail.  Among  your  actions  you: 

■       Pushed  for  an  inspector  general  to  provide  independent  oversight  of  the 
Sacramento  County  Sheriffs  Department; 

Overhauled  the  Main  Jail's  command  structure  by  putting  the  department's  legal 
advisor  in  charge; 


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Appointed  a  community  liaison  to  help  inmates  and  their  families  negotiate  the 
system; 

Opened  the  jail  to  public  tours:  "I  want  a  jail  with  glass  walls,"  you  said  of  your  goal 
of  making  jail  operations  "transparent." 

2.      What  lessons  from  your  own  experience  as  sheriff,  especially  in  overseeing  the  jail, 
are  useful  as  you  help  shape  statewide  law  enforcement  standards? 


POST  Background 

POST  was  established  by  the  Legislature  in  1959  to  set  minimum  selection  and  training 
standards  for  California  law  enforcement.  It  consists  of  14  members  appointed  by  the 
Governor,  plus  the  Attorney  General.  The  POST  organization,  with  more  than  130  staff 
members,  functions  under  the  direction  of  an  executive  director  appointed  by  the 
commission.  POST  coordinates  a  comprehensive  training  program,  with  hundreds  of 
certified  courses. 

One  major  issue  is  recruitment  of  new  officers.  "For  several  years,  California  law 
enforcement  professionals  and  POST  academy  directors  have  expressed  concerns  for 
the  difficulties  they  are  having  in  recruiting  qualified  police  officer  candidates.  POST 
provides  various  recruitment-related  assistance,"  according  to  the  POST  web  site.  In 
2007  the  Contra  Costa  Times  reported  that  there  were  15,000  vacancies  among  the 
95,000  budgeted  peace  officer  jobs  in  California. 

3.  Please  spell  out  the  role  the  commission  is  playing  to  help  departments  recruit 
qualified  candidates.  Do  you  see  a  wider  role  for  the  commission  in  publicizing  the 
need  for  police  personnel? 

4.  The  commission  has  considered  raising  entry-level  qualifications  to  become  an 
officer.  What  is  the  status  of  these  discussions?  If  it  is  done,  how  would  the  change 
affect  recruitment? 

5.  Are  any  efforts  underway  to  diversify  law  enforcement  agencies?  If  so,  please 
describe. 


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Employment 

The  commission's  strategic  goals  state:  "The  costs  associated  with  subpar  employee 
productivity,  turnover,  and  counter-productive  behavior  are  substantial,  both  from  a 
monetary  and  public  safety  standpoint." 

6.      What  steps  have  you  taken  to  help  departments  weed  out  potentially  subpar 
employees  before  they  are  hired?  What  sort  of  training  is  available  on  this  topic? 


Training 

In  a  July  18,  2008,  memorandum,  POST  Executive  Director  Paul  Cappitelli  said  that 
while  POST'S  budget  has  remained  relatively  flat,  the  number  of  trainees  for  whom 
agencies  could  seek  reimbursement  climbed  from  54,000  in  2003  to  more  than  68,000 
in  2007,  a  25.9  percent  jump.  "With  no  commensurate  increase  in  revenues,  this  trend 
cannot  be  sustained,"  Cappitelli  said. 

7.  How  is  this  impacting  your  training  programs?  Are  you  encouraging  agencies  to 
utilize  more  online  courses? 

8.  One  of  your  goals  has  been  to  develop  a  distance  learning  plan  for  delivery  of 
Web-based  training.  What  progress  have  you  made  toward  this  goal? 

9.  Some  information  on  the  POST  Web  site  was  last  updated  in  2007.  Given  an 
expected  increase  in  Web  use,  what  plans  do  you  have  to  regularly  update  the 
Web  site? 


Please  send  your  written  answers  to  these  questions  to  Nettie  Sabelhaus,  Senate  Rules 
Committee  Appointments  Director,  Room  420,  State  Capitol,  Sacramento,  CA  95814. 

Thank  you  for  your  help. 

Sincerely,  /  "*) 

DARRELL  STEINBERG  ^ 

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John  McGinness  Responses 


1 .  My  goal  as  a  POST  Commissioner  is  to  continue  the  enhancement  of  the  public  image  and 
professionalism  of  California  law  enforcement.  We  are  in  a  very  sensitive  period  of  time  in  which 
we  are  suffering  from  diminishing  resources  and  rampant  turnover  in  the  ranks  of  law 
enforcement  professionals.  If  we  fail  to  consider  the  totality  of  these  factors  in  planning  the  future 
training  and  educational  requirements,  as  well  as  fundamental  needs  in  that  regard,  we  will  most 
certainly  compromise  the  extent  to  which  future  generations  of  Californians  will  enjoy  quality  of  lif 

2.  The  veil  of  secrecy  that  has  been  the  traditional  model  in  law  enforcement  no  longer  works.  The 
reality  is  the  media  and  the  public,  especially  members  of  special  interests  groups,  demand  to 
know  what  goes  on  within  law  enforcement  agencies.  The  greater  the  resistance  to 
transparency,  the  greater  the  likelihood  of  runaway  perception  of  wrongdoing.  The  greatest 
casualty  to  such  a  practice  within  the  law  enforcement  is  the  dedicated  professionals  who  do 
good  work  yet  have  their  reputations  sullied  by  innuendo.  We  owe  it  to  our  personnel  to  create 
an  environment  that  is  open  to  the  public,  to  the  extent  allowed  by  law  and  appropriate  sensitivity, 
and  fosters  an  element  of  confidence  and  trust  on  the  part  of  the  public. 

3.  The  issue  of  effective  recruitment  has  changed  dramatically  in  the  last  few  months.  As  a  result  of 
the  fiscal  crisis  of  late  2008,  many  qualified  people  have  taken  an  interest  in  the  law  enforcement 
profession.  During  the  economic  boom  time,  however,  a  large  segment  of  qualified  people 
resisted  law  enforcement  work  for  a  number  of  reasons.  Much  of  the  resistance  could  no  doubt 
be  attributed  to  shift  work  and  challenges  associated  with  meeting  the  high  standards  critical  to 
the  appropriate  practice  of  our  profession.  However,  it  has  been  my  belief  that  the  controversial 
nature  of  police  work  and  the  image  of  our  profession  as  portrayed  by  the  media,  had  a  significant 
detrimental  impact  on  hiring  efforts.  Notwithstanding  the  fact  that  we  seemed  to  have  evolved 
back  into  an  era  in  which  a  strong  interest  in  police  work  exists,  we  are  well  advised  to  look 
forward  to  the  inevitable  day  when  concerns  about  image  discourage  participation  on  the  part  of 
good  candidates.  Clearly,  the  best  way  to  address  that  is  through  continued  high  standards  and 
working  with  the  media  and  the  public  in  a  way  which  showcases  the  good  work  of  our  officers 
and  professional  staff. 

4.  Given  the  current  trends  in  terms  of  increased  interest  in  law  enforcement,  I  believe  increasing 
the  entry-level  qualifications  is  worthy  of  consideration.  With  that  in  mind,  due  consideration  must 
be  given  to  ways  to  enhance  the  image  of  law  enforcement  long  after  the  job  marked  stabilizes 
and  employment  opportunities  become  readily  available. 

5.  In  my  practice,  we  have  sought  to  create  a  law  enforcement  agency  which  represents  the 
community  we  serve,  in  terms  of  ethnic  make  up.  While  we  have  made  significant  strides,  there 
continues  to  be  room  for  improvement.  The  success  we  have  had,  and  that  which  I  believes  to 
be  most  effective,  is  engaging  in  the  community  to  encourage  interest.  At  the  risk  of  being 
redundant,  the  ever  important  issue  of  image  is  also  critical  in  this  regard.  If  the  perception  of  law 
enforcement  in  the  minority  community  is  that  police  are  oppressive  and  corrupt,  highly  qualified 
members  of  diverse  communities  are  not  likely  to  seek  employment.   If  however,  we  are  effective 
in  illustrating  the  talent  that  exists  within  our  ranks,  the  interest  on  the  part  of  highly  qualified 
candidates  is  likely  to  grow. 

6.  In  my  department  we  have  taken  extra  steps  to  ensure  the  candidates  for  employment  in  peace 
officer  positions  are  screened  far  beyond  the  extent  required  by  law.   Canvassing  neighborhoods 
where  candidates  work  and  live  has  been  a  very  effective  tool  in  identifying  behavioral  trends  in 
individuals  that  indicates  a  predisposition  for  anger  management  issues,  hostility,  homophobia  or 
racism  far  more  effectively  than  merely  relying  upon  those  references  listed  by  the  applicant. 

7.  We  absolutely  encourage  our  staff  to  participate  in  on-line  training  as  well  as  semester  courses  or 
certificate  courses  offered  at  colleges  and  universities.  We  suffer  from  the  same  root  fiscal 


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concerns  as  POST.  However,  we  make  reasonable  effort  to  accommodate  scheduling  challenge 
and  other  resources  to  accomplish  such  critical  educational  pursuits.  The  exchange  for  our 
accommodation  is  that  personnel  are  expected  to  share  the  benefit  of  their  enhanced  knowledge 
with  their  colleagues. 

We  have  collaborated  very  effectively  with  CSU  Sacramento  and  implemented  an  on-site 
Bachelor  in  Vocational  Arts  Degree  program.  The  program  has  been  very  effective  and  has  been 
published  in  education  periodicals.  The  first  band  of  students  was  limited  to  our  own  personnel. 
However,  we  have  opened  up  to  allied  law  enforcement  agencies  throughout  the  region.  It  has 
elevated  our  educational  and  professional  profile  as  a  law  enforcement  agency. 

Recognizing  the  fact  that  Web  based  communication  is  extraordinarily  popular,  we  should  make 
every  effort  to  update  our  Web  Site  consistent  with  Commission  Meetings  as  well  as  periodically 
given  the  fluid  nature  of  our  business  and  related  factors  such  as  the  economy.  The  rapid  rate  at 
which  major  developments  have  occurred  in  the  past  year  is  very  critical.  We  will  serve  our 
constituency  much  more  effectively  if  we  reflect  that  pace. 


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MEMBERS 


GREGORY  SCHMIDT 

SAM  AANESTAD                                                                                        /^tflMB^h  secretary  of  the  senate 

vice-chair                                                                                                         M£&V&5W®ti\  NETTIE  SABELHAUS 

APPOINTMENTS  DIRECTOR 

GILBERT  CEDILLO 
ROBERT  DUTTON 
JENNY  OROPEZA 


Senate  Rules  Committee 

DARRELL  STEINBERG 

CHAIRMAN 


December  18,  2008 


Gil  Van  Attenhoven 


Dear  Mr.  Van  Attenhoven: 

The  Senate  Rules  Committee  will  conduct  a  confirmation  hearing  on  your  appointment 
as  a  member  of  the  Commission  on  Peace  Officer  Standards  and  Training  (POST)  on 
Wednesday,  January  14,  2009.  You  are  not  required  to  appear,  but  we  request  that  you 
respond  in  writing  to  the  following  questions.  Please  provide  your  responses  by  January 
6,  2009. 

We  would  also  like  to  receive  an  updated  Form  700,  Statement  of  Economic  Interest,  by 
January  6th. 


Goals 

1.      Please  provide  us  with  a  brief  statement  of  your  goals.  What  do  you  hope  to 

accomplish  as  a  member  of  the  commission?  How  will  you  measure  your  success 
in  meeting  these  goals? 


Background 

You  have  served  since  1984  in  various  positions  with  the  California  Department  of 
Justice,  and  are  currently  a  senior  special  agent  who  manages,  directs,  and  implements 
narcotic  and  law  enforcement  training  programs  for  the  Advanced  Training  Center. 

2.      What  lessons  from  your  own  experience  in  the  Department  of  Justice  are  useful  as 
you  help  shape  statewide  law  enforcement  standards? 


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POST  Background 

POST  was  established  by  the  Legislature  in  1959  to  set  minimum  selection  and  training 
standards  for  California  law  enforcement.  It  consists  of  14  members  appointed  by  the 
Governor,  plus  the  Attorney  General.  The  POST  organization,  with  more  than  130  staff 
members,  functions  under  the  direction  of  an  executive  director  appointed  by  the 
commission.  POST  coordinates  a  comprehensive  training  program,  with  hundreds  of 
certified  courses. 

One  major  issue  is  recruitment  of  new  officers.  "For  several  years,  California  law 
enforcement  professionals  and  POST  academy  directors  have  expressed  concerns  for 
the  difficulties  they  are  having  in  recruiting  qualified  police  officer  candidates.  POST 
provides  various  recruitment-related  assistance,"  according  to  the  POST  Web  site.  In 
2007  the  Contra  Costa  Times  reported  that  there  were  15,000  vacancies  among  the 
95,000  budgeted  peace  officer  jobs  in  California. 

3.  Please  spell  out  the  role  the  commission  is  playing  to  help  departments  recruit 
qualified  candidates.  What  impact  has  the  nation's  slowing  economy  had  on 
recruitment  of  officers?  Do  you  see  a  wider  role  for  the  commission  in  publicizing 
the  need  for  police  personnel? 

4.  The  commission  has  considered  raising  entry-level  qualifications  to  become  an 
officer.  What  is  the  status  of  these  discussions?  If  it  is  done,  how  would  the  change 
affect  recruitment? 

5.  Are  any  efforts  underway  to  diversify  law  enforcement  agencies?  If  so,  please 
describe. 


Employment 

The  commission's  strategic  goals  state:  "The  costs  associated  with  subpar  employee 
productivity,  turnover,  and  counter-productive  behavior  are  substantial,  both  from  a 
monetary  and  public  safety  standpoint." 

6.      What  steps  have  you  taken  to  help  departments  weed  out  potentially  subpar 
employees  before  they  are  hired?  What  sort  of  training  is  available  on  this  topic? 


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Date 

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Training 


In  a  July  18,  2008,  memorandum,  POST  Executive  Director  Paul  Cappitelli  said  that 
while  POST'S  budget  has  remained  relatively  flat,  the  number  of  trainees  for  whom 
agencies  could  seek  reimbursement  climbed  from  54,000  in  2003  to  more  than  68,000 
in  2007,  a  25.9  percent  jump.  "With  no  commensurate  increase  in  revenues,  this  trend 
cannot  be  sustained,"  Cappitelli  said. 

7.  How  is  this  impacting  your  training  programs?  Are  you  encouraging  agencies  to 
utilize  more  online  courses? 

8.  One  of  your  goals  has  been  to  develop  a  distance  learning  plan  for  delivery  of 
Web-based  training.  What  progress  have  you  made  toward  this  goal? 

9.  Some  information  on  the  POST  Web  site  was  last  updated  in  2007.  Given  an 
expected  increase  in  Web  use,  what  plans  do  you  have  to  regularly  update  the 
Web  site? 


Please  send  your  written  answers  to  these  questions  to  Nettie  Sabelhaus,  Senate  Rules 
Committee  Appointments  Director,  Room  420,  State  Capitol,  Sacramento,  CA  95814. 

Thank  you  for  your  help. 

Sincerely, 


DARRELL  STEINBERG 

DS:MG 

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1 .   As  a  member  of  the  POST  Commission,  one  of  my  fundamental  goals  is  to  raise 
the  standards  for  the  selection  of  peace  officer  candidates.  With  the  state  of  the 
current  economy  and  the  layoffs  of  numerous  employees  in  the  private  sector, 
law  enforcement  agencies  are  going  to  see  an  increase  in  peace  officer 
candidate  applications.  The  Los  Angeles  Police  Department  (LAPD)  is  even 
advertising  their  police  officer  positions  as  being  recession  proof.  This  caused  a 
117%  increase  in  police  officer  candidate  applications  from  December  2007  to 
December  2008.  The  LAPD  saw  the  number  of  applicants  taking  the  written  test 
increase  from  401  persons  to  870  persons. 

During  this  critical  time,  it  is  important  that  law  enforcement  agencies  maintain  or 
raise  their  hiring  standards  and  not  settle  for  sub-standard  candidates.  POST  has 
already  developed  a  candidate  pre-assessment  package  for  prospective  peace 
officer  candidates  and  a  candidate  information  page  on  their  website. 

As  a  member  of  the  commission,  I  hope  to  continue  to  increase  the  quality  of 
training  made  available  to  CA  peace  officers.  With  the  reduction  in  budgets, 
sometimes  training  is  the  first  area  cut  in  many  agencies.  In  my  28  (+)  years  in 
law  enforcement,  I  have  had  the  opportunity  to  travel  throughout  the  United 
States  and  participate  in  training  programs  to  numerous  local  and  state  law 
enforcement  officers.  California  peace  officers  consistently  receive  more  training 
and  higher  quality  training  than  officers  in  other  states  in  the  country.  One  of  my 
goals  would  be  to  ensure  that  officers  continue  to  receive  the  training  they  need 
and  require. 

One  way  to  measure  the  success  in  meeting  these  goals  would  simply  be  to 
check  POST  records  to  determine  the  number  of  officers  that  attended  POST 
certified  training  classes  during  Fiscal  Year  2008/2009. 


2.   As  stated  in  the  previous  paragraph,  I  have  over  28  years  of  law  enforcement 
experience,  working  at  first  for  a  local  agency  and  now  with  the  California 
Department  of  Justice.   In  my  role  with  the  CA  Department  of  Justice,  I  am 
responsible  for  narcotic  and  law  enforcement  training  programs,  whereby  we 
present  courses  to  local,  state  and  federal  law  enforcement  officers  throughout 
California.  Last  year  our  unit  trained  over  6,000  officers.  I  have  also  had  the 
opportunity  to  travel  throughout  the  United  States  and  meet  with  officers  from 
other  parts  of  the  country  and  compare  training  courses  and  programs.  I  firmly 
believe  that  California  law  enforcement  officers  receive  the  finest  training 
available,  and  that  is  due  to  the  standards  set  forth  by  the  POST  Commission. 

My  role  with  the  CA  Department  of  Justice  has  helped  prepare  me  to  recognize 
quality  training  programs  and  I  would  utilize  that  experience  when  voting  on 
POST  Commission  issues. 

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3.  The  POST  commission  has  been  addressing  recruitment  issues  for  the  last 
several  years  and  the  topic  is  currently  part  of  POST'S  Strategic  Plan.  POST  has 
conducted  five  recruitment  symposiums  during  the  last  ten  years.  Each 
symposium  involved  presentations  by  subject  matter  experts  regarding 
recruitment  and  retention  issues.  These  symposiums  were  attended  by 
representatives  from  several  hundred  law  enforcement  agencies. 

The  slowing  economy  has  led  to  an  increase  in  peace  officer  applications,  as 
evidenced  by  the  increase  in  police  officer  applications  for  the  Los  Angeles 
Police  Department.  The  slowing  economy  has  also  led  to  peace  officer  layoffs, 
and  hiring  freezes  by  many  law  enforcement  agencies. 

POST  can  assist  law  enforcement  agencies  with  recruitment  by  providing 
recruiter  training,  enhancing  the  POST  website  to  reflect  career  opportunities, 
develop  best  practices  on  recruitment,  and  provide  pre-academy  preparation 
materials  for  peace  officer  candidates.  Most  law  enforcement  agencies  have  a 
pro-active  recruitment  program  in  place  due  to  a  large  number  of  vacancies 
because  of  retirements.  Some  of  the  issues  concerning  the  difficulty  in  filling 
those  vacancies  are  due  to  a  lack  of  qualified  candidates  and  the  length  of  time  it 
takes  to  complete  the  hiring  process. 

4.  The  commission  addressed  the  issue  of  raising  entry-level  qualifications  to 
become  a  peace  officer  in  the  2006  Strategic  Plan.  There  were  three  objectives 
that  covered  this  concern: 

•  Study  the  feasibility  of  raising  the  entry-level  education  requirement  above 
a  high  school  education  or  GED. 

•  Study  the  feasibility  of  raising  entry-level  reading  and  writing  requirements. 


•  Study  the  feasibility  of  requiring  reading  and  writing  testing  for  entry  into 
the  basic  academy. 

The  status  of  the  discussions  are: 

•  The  commission  approved  staffs  recommendation  to  not  raise  the 
education  requirement  because  of  the  negative  impact  it  would  have  upon 
law  enforcement  recruitment. 

•  The  commission  approved  staffs  recommendation  to  not  raise  the  entry- 
level  reading  and  writing  requirement  because  of  the  negative  impact  it 
would  have  upon  law  enforcement  recruitment. 

•  The  commission  approved  the  staffs  recommendation  to  not  establish  a 
reading  and  writing  requirement  for  entry  into  an  academy. 


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After  reviewing  the  feasibility  discussions,  the  commission  believed  that  the 
elevation  of  selection  standards  for  peace  officer  candidates  would  be 
detrimental  to  recruitment  efforts  of  law  enforcement. 

5.  POST  conducted  several  surveys  during  the  last  eight  years  and  determined  that 
for  many  law  enforcement  agencies  there  continues  to  be  a  need  and  interest  in 
ensuring  that  agencies  reflect  the  diversity  of  the  communities  they  serve.  POST 
however,  does  not  have  a  direct  role  in  the  hiring  decisions  made  by  law 
enforcement  agencies.  POST  staff  did  work  with  subject  matter  experts  and  law 
enforcement  agencies  as  well  as  human  resource  professionals  to  develop  best 
practices  that  agencies  can  use  in  addressing  the  need  to  increase  diversity 
within  law  enforcement  agencies. 

6.  POST  has  conducted  statewide  research  regarding  the  selection  and  training 
standards  for  entry-level  peace  officers.  This  has  included  the  development  of 
valid  selection  tests  used  by  law  enforcement  agencies  to  identify  qualified 
candidates.  The  POST  Commission  also  developed  written  and  performance 
based  tests  to  assess  the  knowledge  and  skill  levels  of  all  peace  officer  trainees 
in  all  of  California's  POST  certified  Basic  Recruit  Training  Academies. 

This  helps  ensure  that  the  best  possible  candidates  are  hired  by  law  enforcement 
agencies.  This  also  makes  certain  that  all  standards  and  procedures  are  job- 
related  and  will  hold  up  in  court  if  challenged.  POST  staff  also  works  closely  with 
California  Basic  Recruit  Training  Academies  to  ensure  that  the  trainees  master 
the  skills  and  knowledge  required  to  become  a  peace  officer. 

POST  does  not  make  the  hiring  decision,  but  the  commission  does  provide 
resources  to  law  enforcement  agencies  that  assists  them  in  making  hiring 
decisions.  POST  provides  this  assistance  through  reading  tests,  writing  tests, 
background  investigation  procedures,  and  medical  screening  guidelines. 

POST  has  established  several  basic  training  and  assessment  programs  and 
projects  that  are  designed  to  identify  and  screen  qualified  candidates.  These  ten 
programs  are: 

•  On-going  Basic  Course  Delivery  Functions 

•  On-going  Basic  Course  Cognitive  Testing  Program 

•  On-going  Scenario  Testing  Program 

•  On-going  Basic  Academy  Physical  Conditioning  Program 

•  Competency-based  Training  and  Assessment  Project 


7.    In  July  2008,  the  POST  Commission  reduced  the  number  of  reimbursable 
Continuing  Professional  Training  (CPT)  hours  for  California  peace  officers  to  40 
hours  per  fiscal  year.  This  was  due  to  a  $2  million  reduction  to  POST'S 


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2008/2009  Fiscal  Year  budget.  The  impact  of  this  ruling  has  reduced  the  number 
of  attendees  in  many  of  the  Advanced  Training  Center's  (ATC)  courses.  During 
Fiscal  Year  2007/2008,  the  ATC  trained  over  6,900  officers  and  we  anticipate  a 
reduction  in  the  total  of  officers  we  will  train  during  fiscal  year  2008/2009. 

The  POST  Commission  is  encouraging  law  enforcement  agencies  to  utilize 
online  courses.  For  example,  the  commission  developed  a  First  Aid/CPR  course 
that  is  available  through  the  POST  Learning  Portal.  Many  agencies  are  now 
utilizing  this  tool  to  certify  their  officers  in  First  Aid/CPR. 

8.  POST  has  made  excellent  progress  in  the  area  of  Web-based  training  programs. 
The  POST  Commission  currently  has  five  Computer  Based  Training  Courses 
through  the  POST  Learning  Portal  and  there  are  others  in  the  development 
stage. 

There  are  over  17,500  registered  users  for  the  Learning  Portal.  There  have  been 
over  16,300  users  that  have  completed  training  courses  through  the  portal  and 
there  have  been  over  20,300  resource  downloads  through  the  portal.  I  believe 
the  statistics  show  that  the  POST  Learning  Portal  is  a  successful  program. 

9.  POST  made  changes  to  their  website  last  year  and  the  website  is  current.  If  you 
were  to  log  on  to  the  POST  website  at  www.post.ca.gov  you  will  find  a  current 
site  that  lists  events  for  January  2009.  The  site  has  been  revised  and  it  is  easier 
to  navigate  and  was  last  updated  on  December  30,  2008.  The  commission  will 
ensure  that  the  website  is  regularly  updated  and  will  remain  current. 


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July  16,2008 

Nettie  Sabelhaus 

Rules  Committee  Appointment  Director 
Room  420,  State  Capital 
Sacramento,  California  95814-4900 

Dear  Ms.  Sabelhaus: 

In  response  to  your  letter  of  July  14,  2008,  please  find  below  my  responses  to  the 
questions  posed  by  the  Senate  Rules  Committee.  It  is  my  understanding  that  the 
hearing  will  occur  on  August  13,  2008,  and  that  I  am  not  required  to  appear. 

Role  of  the  State  Bar 

The  State  Bar  is  governed  by  a  23 -member  Board  of  Governors  (BOG),  with  six 
public,  non-attorney  members.  The  Board  of  Governors  establishes  policy  and 
guides  the  operation  of  the  State  Bar.  The  State  Bar  is  the  administrative  arm  of 
the  California  Supreme  Court  in  matters  involving  the  admission,  regulation,  and 
discipline  of  attorneys.  Californians  rely  on  the  State  Bar  to  protect  them  from  the 
unethical  or  unauthorized  practice  of  law  and  to  help  uphold  and  improve  the 
justice  system. 

Goals 

/.    Please  provide  us  with  a  brief  statement  of  goals.  What  do  you  hope  to 

accomplish  during  your  time  on  the  State  Bar  Board  of  Governors?  How  will 
you  measure  your  success? 

As  one  of  the  Public  Members  of  the  Board  I  see  my  role  as  advocate  of  the 
public  interest  and  protection  against  illegal  and  improper  practice  of  law  in 
California.  Since  my  arrival  on  the  Board,  my  focus  has  been  concentrated  on 
public  protection  issues.  This  has  become  the  common  goal  of  the  Public 
Members.  My  previous  experience  on  the  Committee  of  Bar  Examiners  and  my 
many  years  of  service  on  Corporate  Boards  has  given  me  an  accelerated  start  as  a 
new  member.  I  hope  that  during  my  term  I  will  help  to  bring  balance  and  fiscal 
responsibility  for  the  citizens  of  California.  As  we  move  forward,  I  would  like  to 
see  the  Bar  become  respected  and  trusted,  not  only  by  the  public,  but  also  by  its 
own  members.  This  is  critical  to  the  support  it  receives  from  the  State  of 
California.  Member  oversight  must  be  fair  and  balanced  for  this  to  happen.  My 
success  on  the  Board  will  be  best  measured  by  how  the  Legislature  views  the 
State  Bar  at  the  expiration  of  my  term. 

2.    How  will  the  14  years  you  have  served  on  the  State  Bar  Committee  of  Bar 
Examiners  help  you  in  your  new  role  on  the  State  Bar  Board  of  Governors? 

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During  the  14  years  I  served  on  all  of  the  committees  of  the  Examining 
Committee,  the  majority  of  my  time  was  spent  on  the  Operations  and 
Management  Committee  and  the  Moral  Character  Committee.  The  insight  I 
gained  from  the  many  Informal  Conferences  and  the  difficult  struggles  during  the 
darkest  days  of  the  Bar  and  its  budget  gave  me  a  vast  amount  of  experience 
during  a  very  difficult  time.  Proposing  and  implementing  a  three  year  plan  to 
bring  the  Committee  back  from  the  brink  of  financial  collapse  was  my  greatest 
challenge.  My  service  on  the  Moral  Character  Committee  gave  me  a  great  amount 
of  understanding  for  the  difficulties  faced  by  applicants  who  were  not  fortunate 
enough  to  attend  an  ABA  school.  This  experience  has  allowed  me  to  jump  start 
my  service  on  the  BOG.  Knowledge  of  fundamentals  and  structure  of  the  Bar  has 
allowed  me  to  solidify  relationships  with  employees  of  the  Bar  and  the  members 
of  the  Board  of  Governors. 

Disclosure  of  Professional  Liability  Insurance  Proposal 

How  does  the  State  Bar  propose  to  enforce  the  attorney  disclosure  requirement? 
How  will  the  Board  of  Governors  be  kept  informed  of  enforcement  efforts? 

In  May  of  this  year,  after  a  three  year  process,  the  board  voted  to  recommend  a 
proposed  new  Rule  of  Professional  Conduct  to  the  Supreme  Court.  The  Supreme 
Court  will  ultimately  decide  whether  to  approve  the  proposal,  alter  it  or  reject  it. 
Under  the  proposed  rule,  a  lawyer  who  does  not  carry  professional  liability 
insurance  must  disclose  that  to  a  client  (a)  in,  writing,  (b)  at  the  time  of 
engagement  and  (c)  if  the  representation  will  exceed  four  hours.  Although  the 
proposed  new  rule  represents  a  compromise,  I  supported  this  rule  because  I 
believe  it  strikes  an  appropriate  balance  between  the  consumer's  right  to  know 
whether  their  attorney  is  covered  by  insurance  and  realities  of  the  attorney-client 
relationship. 

If  the  Supreme  Court  approves  the  proposed  new  rule,  the  insurance  disclosure 
requirement  would  be  in  a  new  Rule  of  Professional  Conduct.  The  rule  would 
require  disclosure  of  the  absence  of  insurance  directly  to  the  client,  and  not  to  the 
State  Bar.  The  rule  would  be  enforced  like  the  other  rules  of  professional  conduct. 
If  a  client  complained  to  the  State  Bar  about  a  violation  of  the  rule,  investigation 
and  enforcement  would  begin.  If  charges  are  brought  against  an  attorney,  that  will 
become  a  matter  of  public  record.  The  Board  of  Governors  could  also  ask  for 
confidential  reports  relating  to  the  investigation  of  alleged  violations  of  the 
particular  rule,  and  receive  periodic  reports  so  it  could  monitor  enforcement 
efforts  relating  to  the  new  rule.  While  the  proposal  will  increase  the  work  of  the 


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Regulations,  Admissions  and  Discipline  Committee  (RAD),  which  I  serve  on,  I 
view  it  as  another  step  toward  consumer  protection. 


4.    What  is  the  State  Bar  doing  to  help  make  professional  liability  insurance  more 
affordable  and  available  to  attorneys,  particularly  small  firms  and  solo 
practitioners? 

I  have  been  informed  by  State  Bar  staff  that  the  Bar  has  made  every  effort  to 
make  the  coverage  available  and  affordable  to  sole  practitioners  and  small  firms. 
The  State  Bar  sponsors  a  Professional  Liability  Insurance  program  which  is 
designed  for  small  firms  and  solo  practitioners.  The  State  Bar's  program  is 
managed  by  a  group  of  volunteer  attorneys  through  a  committee  of  the  Bar 
(COPLI)  who  review  the  program  at  quarterly  meetings.  Each  of  the  committee 
members  are  experts  in  the  professional  liability  business.  Malpractice  insurance 
in  California  is  not  easily  obtainable  and  affordable,  so  the  State  Bar  has 
developed  a  program  which  is  managed  by  Lawyer's  Mutual,  and  insures  several 
thousand  members,  most  of  whom  are  solo  or  small  firms.  The  affordability  issue 
is  always  an  issue  with  each  professional  occupation  in  California.  As  the  number 
of  insured's  increases,  assuming  claims  stay  the  same,  the  premium  will  decrease 
for  new  applicants.  Due  to  all  policies  being  written  on  a  "Claims  Made"  basis, 
premiums  for  in  force  policies  will  increase  each  year  due  to  the  extended  periods 
an  insurer  is  exposed.  Volume  and  claim  management  will  significantly  improve 
the  affordability  issue. 

Access  to  Justice 

5     With  an  influx  of  almost  one  million  dollars  this  year  to  help  increase  access 
to  justice,  how  does  the  State  Bar  plan  to  allocate  these  funds?  What  factors 
would  you  consider  in  prioritizing  the  granting  of  these  funds! 


The  support  of  the  legal  community  for  the  new  Justice  Gap  Fund  has  been 
extremely  heartening,  and  the  Bar  is  indebted  to  members  of  the  task  force  that 
worked  hard  to  set  up  the  Fund. 

When  AB  2301  was  enacted,  it  called  on  the  Bar  to  establish  the  task  force,  with 
input  from  the  legislature  and  the  Supreme  Court,  to  make  a  recommendation  to 
the  Board  of  Governors  about  how  to  implement  the  legislation.  The  bill  was 
signed  in  September  of  2006,  and  by  the  next  month,  the  Bar  had  already  set  up 
the  Task  Force  on  Lawyer  Support  for  Legal  Services. 


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That  Task  Force  deliberated  over  the  next  few  months,  received  input  from  all 
relevant  stakeholders,  and  recommended  an  implementation  policy  to  the  Board 
of  Governors  by  July  of  2007.  With  regard  to  who  would  be  the  recipients  of  the 
new  funds,  the  Task  Force  recommended,  and  the  Board  of  Governors  concurred 
that  the  funds  be  distributed  through  the  State  Bar's  Legal  Services  Trust  Fund 
Program.  Further,  the  policy  recommended  that  the  funds  be  distributed  using  the 
same  statutory  formula  as  the  Interest  on  Lawyer  Trust  Account  (IOLTA) 
Program. 

The  Board  of  Governors  determined  that  it  was  best  to  use  the  statutory  formula 
so  that  they  would  be  evenly  distributed  throughout  the  state,  based  on  the  poverty- 
population.  Thus,  nearly  100  local  legal  services  programs  that  are  eligible 
recipients  of  the  Trust  Fund  Program  will  use  the  Justice  Gap  Funds  to  serve  the 
low-income  clients  in  their  communities. 

Following  their  policy  recommendations,  the  Task  Force  did  extensive  outreach 
to  bring  the  new  Fund  to  the  attention  of  various  segments  of  the  legal 
community,  resulting  in  the  nearly  $1  million  in  contributions.  The  staff  and 
Board  at  the  State  Bar  will  work  hard  to  increase  that  fund  in  future  years.  I 
strongly  believe  that  all  citizens  should  have  access  to  legal  assistance  should  the 
need  arise. 

What  types  of  legal  services  is  most  needed  by  the  indigent  in  order  to  ensure  fair 
access  to  the  justice  system? 

Low-income  Californians  need  legal  help  in  a  number  of  ways.  Families  need 
help  when  there  is  domestic  violence  and  they  don't  know  how  to  protect 
themselves  and  their  children.  They  need  legal  help  when  they  face  eviction,  and 
possible  homelessness,  especially  when  they  are  dealing  with  unscrupulous 
landlords.  Grandparents  need  help  establishing  guardianships.  Citizens  existing 
just  above  the  poverty  line  who  are  threatened  by  identity  theft  and  unsavory 
lenders  also  need  help  to  protect  there  identity  and  credit. 


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California  Legislature 


MEMBERS 
SAMAANESTAD 

VICE-CHAIR 

GILBERT  CEDILLO 
ROBERT  DUTTON 
JENNY  OROPEZA 


December  12,2008 
Edward  R.  Olson 

Dear  Mr.  Olson: 


GREGORY  SCHMIDT 

SECRETARY  OF  THE  SENATE 

NETTIE  SABELHAUS 

APPOrNTMENTS  DIRECTOR 


Senate  Rules  Committee 

DARRELL  STEINBERG 

CHAIRMAN 


As  you  know,  the  Senate  Rules  Committee  will  conduct  a  confirmation  hearing  on  your 
appointment  as  a  member  of  the  California  Veterans  Board  on  Wednesday,  January  14, 
2009.  You  are  not  required  to  appear,  but  we  request  that  you  respond  in  writing  to  the 
following  questions.  Please  provide  your  responses  by  January  5,  2009. 

We  would  also  like  to  receive  an  updated  Form  700,  Statement  of  Economic  Interest,  by 
January  5th. 


Statement  of  Goals 

1.  What  goals  and  objectives  do  you  hope  to  accomplish  duhng  your  tenure  as  a 
member  of  the  Veterans  Board?  How  should  we  measure  your  success? 

2.  What  experience  do  you  bring  that  will  be  helpful  to  the  Veterans  Board? 


Roles  and  Responsibilities 

Section  72  of  the  Military  and  Veterans  Code  states  that  the  California  Veterans  Board 
shall  determine  the  policies  for  all  operations  of  the  Department  of  Veterans  Affairs 
(DVA).  The  board  also  acts  as  an  appellate  body  for  veterans  who  wish  to  appeal  a 
ruling  made  by  the  department.  Yet  the  board  has  few  staff  of  its  own,  relying  almost 
entirely  on  DVA  for  its  information.  In  June  2003  the  California  State  Auditor  issued  a 
report  on  the  Veterans  Board.  The  report  noted  that  in  February  2003,  DVA  tried  to 
challenge  the  board's  authority  and  characterize  the  role  of  the  board  as  "advisory." 

3.      What  training  have  you  received  for  your  role  as  a  board  member? 


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4.  Do  you  view  the  role  of  the  Veterans  Board  as  one  of  policy  setting  for  DVA  or 
advisory?  What  is  your  experience  with  how  the  department  views  the  board's 
role? 

5.  Please  give  an  example,  if  possible,  of  a  policy  the  board  has  set  for  the 
department  in  the  time  you  have  been  a  member. 

The  auditor's  report  also  noted  that  the  board  lacked  independent  legal  counsel,  and 
that  using  DVA  lawyers  in  rulings  on  appeals  of  department  decisions  might  introduce  a 
conflict  of  interest.  At  the  December  7,  2006,  meeting  the  board  decided  that  it  would 
utilize  the  department's  legal  counsel  when  developing  policy,  but  would  conduct  the 
hearing  on  its  own  without  legal  counsel  when  hearing  an  appeal.  The  board  would  only 
ask  for  outside  independent  counsel  when  it  determined  that  the  hearing  was  especially 
difficult.  During  2007  and  most  of  2008,  the  board  did  not  hear  any  appeals  because  all 
were  settled  by  the  department.  However,  at  the  October  2,  2008  meeting — for  the  first 
time  since  the  new  appeals  policy  was  instituted — the  board  heard  two  appeals. 

6.  Was  the  appeals  policy  adopted  in  December  2006  followed  at  the  October  board 
meeting? 

7.  Has  the  board  made,  or  does  it  plan  to  make,  any  changes  to  the  appeals  policy? 

In  April  2008  the  California  State  Auditor  issued  a  report  on  the  Veterans  Home  of 
California  at  Yountville.  The  report  noted  that,  although  the  auditor  reviewed  five 
complaints  submitted  to  the  board  between  June  2006  and  December  2007,  it  was 
unable  to  determine  how  the  complaints  were  resolved  "because  neither  the  Veterans 
Board  nor  Veterans  Affairs  could  locate  documentation  concerning  actions  they  took  on 
complaints."  The  report  further  noted  that  "although  the  Veterans  Board  adopted  a 
policy  indicating  the  type  of  complaints  it  will  process  and  those  it  will  direct  to  Veterans 
Affairs,  it  did  not  specify  a  time  frame  for  resolving  the  complaints  it  will  process." 

8.  Has  the  board  adopted  a  policy  specifying  time  frames  for  resolving  complaints?  If 
so,  please  describe.  If  not,  why  not? 

9.  Has  the  board  established  procedures  for  tracking  complaints?  If  so,  please 
describe.  If  not,  why  not? 


Oversight  of  Existing  Veterans  Homes 

The  department  operates  three  state  veterans  homes  in  Yountville,  Chula  Vista,  and 
Barstow.  The  new  Franklin  D.  Roosevelt  Annex  Memory  Care  Center,  which  serves 
veterans  with  Alzheimer's  and  dementia,  opened  at  the  Yountville  home  in  fall  2007. 


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10.  How  do  you  stay  informed  of  living  conditions  and  staffing  issues  at  the  veterans 
homes  in  Yountville,  Barstow,  and  Chula  Vista? 

1 1.  Does  the  department  seek  the  board's  advice  on  any  changes  in  policies  with 
respect  to  admittance  of  veterans  to  a  veterans  home,  definitions  for  the  levels  of 
care  provided  by  the  department  at  the  homes,  or  other  regulations  that  might 
impact  the  board's  authohty  over  the  appeals  from  veterans  who  were  denied 
admittance  to  a  veterans  home?  Please  provide  examples. 

12.  Have  there  been  significant  successes  or  challenges  in  the  first  year  of  operation  of 
the  Yountville  Memory  Care  Center?  Is  the  center  operating  at  capacity? 


Construction  of  New  Veterans  Homes 

The  US  Department  of  Veterans  Affairs  lists  California  as  one  of  two  states  in  "great 
need"  of  additional  veterans  homes.  Proposition  16  of  2000,  placed  on  the  ballot 
pursuant  to  SB  630  (Dunn),  Chapter  728,  Statutes  of  1999,  along  with  subsequent 
legislation  in  2002  and  2004,  made  funds  available  to  build  new  veterans  homes  in 
Lancaster,  Ventura,  West  Los  Angeles,  Fresno,  and  Redding.  Construction  is  in 
progress  on  the  Ventura  and  Lancaster  homes,  and  is  slated  to  begin  soon  on  the  West 
Los  Angeles  veterans  home. 

13.  What  role  does  the  board  play  in  monitoring  funding  and  construction  of  new 
veterans  homes? 

14.  Are  lessons  learned  from  the  building  and  inspection  issues  at  the  Yountville 
Alzheimer's/Dementia  Unit  transferable  to  the  construction  of  the  new  veterans 
homes? 

15.  What  are  the  expected  completion  and  opening  dates  for  each  of  the  three  new 
veterans  homes? 


CalVet  Loans 

Through  the  CalVet  Home  Loan  Program,  DVA  provides  California  veterans  loans  to 
purchase  farms  and  homes.  The  number  of  CalVet  loans  issued  has  dropped 
significantly  in  recent  years,  from  2,752  loans  in  2000-01,  to  1,116  loans  in  2007-08. 
Since  1921  California  voters  have  approved  approximately  $8.8  billion  of  general 
obligation  bond  sales  to  finance  the  CalVet  program.  The  department  estimates  that 
bond  proceeds  will  run  out  in  2008.  Proposition  12,  placed  on  the  ballot  pursuant  to 
SB  1572  (Wyland),  Chapter  122,  Statutes  of  2008,  was  approved  by  voters  this  month 


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and  will  provide  an  additional  $900  million  in  general  obligation  bonds  for  the  CalVet 
program. 

16.  How  does  the  board  monitor  the  CalVet  loan  program? 

1 7.  Do  you  believe  the  loan  program  is  adequately  providing  California  veterans  with 
lower  cost  loans?  What  changes,  if  any,  would  you  recommend  to  make  the 
program  more  effective? 

18.  As  California  and  the  rest  of  the  country  are  experiencing  a  housing  and  economic 
crisis,  has  the  CalVet  Home  Loan  Program  experienced  any  related  problems?  Do 
you  anticipate  an  increase  in  CalVet  Home  Loan  applications  because  of  the 
difficulty  in  securing  new, mortgages  from  traditional  pnvate-sector  lending 
sources? 


Homeless  Veterans 

While  veterans  make  up  1 1  percent  of  the  adult  population,  the  National  Alliance  to  End 
Homelessness  estimates  that  26  percent  of  the  homeless  in  the  United  States  are 
veterans.  In  California  there  are  more  than  49,000  homeless  veterans. 

19.    What  recommendations,  if  any,  has  the  board  given  the  department  to  try  to  assist 
homeless  veterans? 


New  Veterans 

A  RAND  study  published  earlier  this  year  noted  that,  "As  a  group,  the  veterans  returning 
from  Afghanistan  and  Iraq  are  predominantly  young,  healthy,  and  productive  members 
of  society.  However,  about  a  third  are  currently  affected  by  PTSD  (Post  Traumatic 
Stress  Disorder)  or  depression,  or  report  a  possible  TBI  (traumatic  brain  injury)  while 
deployed." 

20.    Are  there  any  policies,  programs,  or  initiatives  you  believe  the  state  should  be 
implementing  to  help  the  younger  generation  of  veterans  created  post-9/1 1  ? 


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Please  send  your  written  answers  to  these  questions  to  Nettie  Sabelhaus,  Senate  Rules 
Committee  Appointments  Director,  Room  420,  State  Capitol,  Sacramento,  CA  95814. 


Thank  you  for  your  help. 
Sincerely, 

DXRRELL  STEINBERG       ^ 

DS:ER 

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CalVet  Board  Member 

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January  2,  2009  « 

Nettie  Sabelhaus  o.                      - 

Committee  Appointments  Director  '  "T^&pO  ft  S^-o 
Room  420  State  Capitol 
Sacramento,  Ca  95514 

Dear  Nettie  Sabelhaus 

The  following  are  my  answers  to  the  questions  asked  by  the  Senate  Rules  Committee. 

Statement  of  Goals 

1  -What  goals  and  objectives 

a)  See  attached  current  goals  and  objectives  of  the  Board 

b)  Measure  the  success  of  the  goals  and  objectives  by  a  yearly  review, 

2-What  experience  do  you  bring 

I  am  currently  a  member  of  the  Veterans  Home  at  Yountville.  I  have  lived  there  for 
three  and  a  half  years  and  am  the  Vice  Chair  of  the  Allied  Council.  As  we  are  largest 
Home  with  the  most  members  in  California  and  the  most  active  Allied  Council  we  are,  I 
believe,  a  model  and  guide  for  the  other  homes  existing  and  new  to  follow.  I  have 
intimate  knowledge  of  the  problems  and  needs  of  the  veterans  living  at  the  home  which 
help  to  understand  the  problems  of  all  veterans  young  and  old. 

Roles  and  Responsibilities 

3 -What  training  have  you  received 

As  a  Board  Member  I  was  sent  a  PowerPoint  overview  of  the  Department  functions,  and 
received  a  new  member  binder  that  covers  all  of  the  Department  divisions,  ethics  training, 
Bagley  Keene  Open  Meeting  Act  information,  Appeal  Process  and  the  travel  guidelines. 
The  CDVA's  legal  counsel  also  gave  an  overview  from  each  division  as  well  as  meeting 
individually  with  the  executive  staff. 

4-Do  you  view  the  role 

I  believe  that  the  Board  to  some  degree  is  both  Policy  setting  and  advisory.  I  feel  that  the 
Board  is  putting  effort  into  becoming  more  active  and  involved  in  the  supporting  all  of 
the  CDVA's  issues  with  in  the  limits  of  time  we  are  allowed, 

5-Please  give  an  example 

The  Board  has  set  policy  recently-See  Copy  of  policy  C-12 

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6-Was  the  appeals  policy 

Yes  the  policy  was  followed  in  the  October  meeting. 

7-Has  the  board  made 

There  are  no  plans  at  this  time  to  make  changes  to  the  appeals  policy 

8-Has  the  Board  adopted  a  policy 

Yes  it  has.  See  attached  complaint  procedure  adopted  by  the  Board 

9-Has  the  board  established  procedures 

Yes  and  again  See  attached  procedure 

Oversight  of  Existing  Veterans  Homes 

10-How  do  you  stay  informed 

We  stay  in  formed  by  yearly  tours  of  the  Homes  and  the  Secretary  updates  the  Board  at 
each  meeting.  As  I  am  a  member  of  the  home  at  Yountville  and  Vice  Chair  of  the  Allied 
Council  I  am  aware  and  involved  with  all  the  veterans  living  conditions  which  help  with 
the  reviews  of  the  other  homes.  I  am  currently  working  with  the  CD  VA'  s  Deputy 
Director  of  Homes  on  standardizing  the  Allied  Councils  Constitution. 

1 1-Does  the  department  seek 

Yes — the  Deputy  Director  of  Homes  works  closely  with  the  Board's  Policy  and 
Procedures  Committee,  as  well  as  the  Committee  on  Homes,  of  which  I  am  Chair,  to 
identify  and  discuss  areas  for  review  and  revision. 

12-Have  there  been  significant 

The  Memory  Care  Center  is  functiorung  very  well.  It  has  a  capacity  of  75,  and  there  are 
currently  40  residents.  The  State  budget  did  not  allow  for  the  addition  of  new  residents. 
Therefore,  the  plan  is  to  transfer  existing  residents  in  other  SNF  units  to  this  new  unit  as 
they  begin  to  exhibit  memory  or  dementia  issues. 

13-What  role  does  the  board 

Monthly  updates  are  provided  to  the  Board  at  each  meeting.  If  any  Item  looks  out  of  line 
we  may  question  it  and  ask  for  more  detail. 

1 4-Are  lessons  learned  from  the  building 

The  Department  of  General  Services  is  responsible  for  the  construction  of  all  State 
facilities.  A  lesson  learned,  is  that  the  Department  needs  to  take  a  very  active  role  with 
DGS.  As  such  they  are  brining  on  staff  earlier  and  headquarters  staff  is  making  more 
frequent  visits  to  the  site  to  monitor  the  progress.  From  the  planning  perspective,  the 
Department  is  diligent  in  working  with  VA  and  State  agencies  to  improve  the  facilities  to 
meet  current  standards  of  care  and  service.  As  an  example,  all  skilled  nursing  facility 
rooms  in  the  new  homes  will  have  private  bathrooms  as  opposed  to  a  shared  bathroom  in 


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the  homes  under  construction.  This  is  a  new  VA  standard.  Another  example  is  that  the 
new  Homes  will  be  more  energy  efficient. 

15-What  are  the  expected  completion 

Completion  an  opening  dates 
Lancaster.  Completion- April  2009  and  Opening  -June  2009 
Ventura:     Completion-march  2009  and  Opening  May  2009 
West  LA:    Completion-March  2010  and  Opening  June  2010 

Cal-Vet  Loans 

16-How  does  the  board  monitor 

Reports  are  provided  at  each  Board  meeting  and  the  Board  requested  the  Department's 
CalVet  Loan  Chief  to  present  an  overview  of  the  loan  process,  which  was  given  at  the 
last  meeting.  I  had  asked,  as  a  board  member,  that  the  Vet  Loan  Chief  look  at  and  be  sure 
that  when  a  Veteran  is  turned  down  for  a  loan  that  extra  steps  are  taken  to  be  sure  the 
Veteran  understands  why  and  what  his  options  are. 

1 7-Do  you  believe  the  loan  program — 
The  program  is  continually  evolving.  Re-financing  options  are  the  next  changes  that  the 
program  is  pursing.  The  Department  just  presented  their  program  before  Fitch  and 
Moodys  in  New  York  and  it  will  maintain  its  current  rating  (AA)  (A+-).  The  program  is 
on  solid  footing. 

1 8 -As  California  and  the  rest  of  the  country- — 
Foreclosures  have  increased,  but  are  still  less  than  VA  or  industry  averages.  Because  the 
CalVet  Program  is  the  contract  holder,  they  have  better  controls  over  the  loan.  The 
applications  are  controlled  as  much  by  the  availability  of  funds  as  they  are  by  the 
marketplace.  It  is  possible  because  of  the  sever  problems  of  the  private  setting  that  more 
Veterans  will  apply  for  CalVet  Loans.  Many  people  including  Veterans  are  trying  any 
thing  and  everything  in  the  line  of  home  loans. 

Homeless  Veterans 

19-What  recommendations,  if  any,  has  the 

The  Board  has  monitored  the  Department's  outreach  efforts  for  homeless  veterans  by 
having  the  Deputy  Secretary  of  Veterans  Services  present  a  detailed  report  on  the 
situation  and  what  is  being  done  to  address  it.  The  Stand  Downs  that  the  Department 
sponsors  has  been  very  successful  and  well  attended  by  homeless  veterans.  At  these 
Stand  Downs,  services  are  offered  and  several  Vets  have  accepted  admission  to  the 
Homes.  The  Board's  Veterans  Committee  Chair  is  currently  working  with  a  homeless 
shelter  that  was  closed  due  to  safety  violations,  to  help  secure  donation  to  re-open  the 
shelter.  We  need  to  stay  focused  on  the  homeless  Veterans  problems  as  it  will  probable 


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be  amplified  by  the  current  economy.  All  parts  of  the  CDVA  need  to  relate  more  to  the 
Veterans  that  need  the  most  help. 

New  Veterans 

20-Are  there  any  policies,  programs 

The  Board  is  proud  of  the  Yountville  Pathway  Home  Program  established  for  younger 
veterans  with  TBI  and  PTSD,  and  the  Board  just  toured  it  at  their  December  meeting.  I 
feel  that  the  CDVA  in  all  parts  is  constantly  working  on  how  to  better  provide  for  all  the 
young  Veterans  that  are  and  will  be  entering  civilian  life  as  the  current  conflicts  come  to 
an  end. 


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Goals  and  Objectives 

1.  Goal:  To  work  in  concert  and  partnership  with  the  Secretary  and  Department  of  Veterans  Affairs. 

a.  Objective:    Foster  understanding  &  cooperation  between  CalVet  Board  &  CDVA. 

b.  Objective:    To  identify  priorities  for  Board  and  CDVA  activities,  advocacy  and  legislative 
indicatives, 

c.  Objective:  Identify  realistic,  mutually  agreeable  objectives,  based  upon  those  priorities  and 
founded  upon  available  resources. 

2.  Goal;  As  required  by  law,  to  develop,  institute,  and  monitor  policies  for  the  California  Department 
of  Veterans  Affairs  that  complement  the  Department's  stated  principles  and  protect  veterans'  rights 
throughout  California. 

a.  Objective:     Review  and  update  Board  policies  on  a  biannual  basis,  deleting  outdated  or 
unnecessary  policies. 

b.  Objective:   in  concert  with  the  Department,  develop  new  policies  that  enhance  the  operations 
of  the  Department  in  the  service  of  veterans. 

3.  Goal:  To  provide  legislative  advocacy  for  veterans'  issues  before  the  California  State  Legislature,  the 
Governor  of  the  State  of  California,  the  Department  of  Veterans  Affairs,  the  U.S.  Congress,  and  the 
President  of  the  United  States  as  appropriate  and/or  necessary  to  enhance  and/or  protect  the  rights 
and  benefits  of  Ca  lifornia's  veterans. 

a.  Objective:    Monitor  and  review  federal  and  state  legislative  proposals  that  may  enhance  or 
detract  from  veterans'  benefits. 

b.  Objective:  Consider  and  enact  appropriate  resolutions  in  support  for  or  against  legislation  that 
may  affect  veterans' benefits. 

c.  Establish  Legislative  Priorities  for  the  Board: 

1)  Veterans  healthcare  (especially  mental  healthcare) 

2)  Veterans  employment 

3)  Veterans  homelessness  reduction  and  treatment 

4.  Goal:  As  dictated  by  law,  to  hear  and  render  decisions  on  veteran's  appeals. 

a.  Objective:     Provide  timely  and  considered  Review  of  Records,  Informal  hearings,  or  Formal 
Hearings  for  all  appeals 

b.  Objective:  Provide  timely  decisions  to  the  appellant  and  Department. 

c.  Objective:  Maintain  appropriate  and  accurate  records  of  all  appeals. 

5.  Goal:  To  ensure  that  the  more  than  2.1  million  military  veterans  residing  in  California  and  their 
dependents  are  treated  fairly  and  have  access  to  all  information  relating  to  benefits  authorized  by 
state  law. 

a.  Objective:  Increase  the  per  capita  amount  of  Federal  money  coming  into  California. 

b.  Objective:  Establish  a  network  relationship  with  veterans'  organizations;  provide  a  forum  for 
current  dialogue  about  veteran  issues  and  concerns  that  can  be  turned  into  CDVA  policy  and 
legislative  advocacy  as  appropriate;  and  leverage  those  organizations  to  assist  in  both  advocacy 
and  the  dissemination  nf  it  ifui  n  ration  about  veterans'  issues  and  initiatives. 

c.  Objective:  Increase  and  improve  communications  with  the  Veterans  Service  Organizations  and 
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d.  Objective:  !n  partnership  with  the  Department,  institute  a  regular  newsletter  for  veterans. 

e.  Objective:  Work  with  the  County  Veterans  Service  Officers  on  informing  veterans  of  upcoming 
Board  meetings  and  veterans'  activities. 

6.  Goal:  To  provide  policy  statements  and  guidance  to  ensure  that  the  CDVA  provides  quality  care  and 
services  in  an  environment  of  continuous  improvement  to  ensure  that  the  veteran's  homes  of  the 
California  system  will  be  recognized  as  a  modei  of  excellence  and  innovation  for  integrated 
extended  care  for  the  aged  and/or  disabled  California  veteran. 

a.  Objective:  Meet  oeriodicaiiy  in  each  veterans  home  to  monitor  its  practices,  procedures,  and 
patient  morale 

b.  Objective:  Monitor  all  issues,  complaints,  initiatives  to  ensure  compliance  with  Federa  and 
State  regulations,  the  fair  treatment  of  all  patients,  and  the  highest  possible  standards  of  z^re 
and  treatment. 

7.  Goal:  To  Involve  veterans'  organizations  in  the  Board  meetings  and  improve  the  image  and  value  of 

the  Board  with  the  veterans'  community, 

a.  Objective:   Have  veterans'  organizations  make  presentations  at  the  Board  meetings. 

b.  Objective:  Involve  veterans'  organizations  in  the  ceremonial  aspects  of  the  Board  meetings,  e.g. 
Pledge  of  Allegiance,  Color  Guard,  invocation. 

c.  Determine  the  expectations  of  the  Board  by  veterans  and  Veterans  Service  Organizations  by: 
Using  a  survey  to  gain  feedback  from  veterans  and  veterans  organizations;  asking  tne  attendees 
at  Board  meetings;  reviewing  past  communications  and  suggestions. 

8.  Goal:  To  provide  oversight  to  the  Cat  Vet  Farm  and  Homes  loan  program. 


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SECTION 

C-12 

ADOPTED 

8/11/06 

REVISED 

REVIEWED 

04/12/07 

SUBJECT 

Resident  Participation  in  Health  Service  Plans 

PURPOSE:  The  purpose  of  this  policy  is  to  maximize  resident  participation  in  federal,  state,  V.A.,  ox  private 
health  service  plans  and  to  ensure  that  the  Department  seeks  reimbursement  for  health  care  that  is  provided  to 
the  residents  of  the  Veterans  Homes  of  California. 

POLICY:  It  shall  be  the  policy  of  the  Department  that  resident  participation  in  federal,  state,  V.A.,  or  private 
health  service  plans  is  maximized 

•  Resident  participation  in  federal,  state.  V,A.,  or  private  health  service  plans  will  benefit  the 
Department  by  helping  to  ensure  that  all  available  resources  have  been  utilized  in  the  effort  to 
reimburse  the  costs  associated  with  providing  high  quality  health  care  to  our  Veterans. 

»     Residents  of  the  Veterans  Homes  of  California  shall  make  the  administrations  of  the  respective 
Homes  aware  of  their  participation  in  a  health  service  plan  or  their  eligibility  for  participation. 

•  Henceforth,  non-veteran  applicants  must  be  participating  in  a  federal,  state  or  private  health  service 
plan  to  be  admitted  to  the  Home. 

•  Henceforth,  veteran  applicants,  if  eligible  for  federal,  state,  or  VA  medical  programs,  must  apply  for 
such  programs  in  order  to  he  admitted  to  the  Home. 

•  Individuals  admitted  to  the  Home  after  the  effective  date  of  this  policy  will  be  required  to  maintain 
participation  m  the  federal,  state.,  VA.,  or  private  health  service  plan  if  they  remain  eligible.  If  a 
member's  eligibility  lapses  because  of  circumstances  beyond  his  or  her  control,  the  member  will  not 
be  discharged  from  the  Home  but  he  or  she  will  be  expected  to  reapply  for  coverage  as  soon  as 
practical.  However,  any  member  who  refuses  to  apply  for  and  maintain  coverage.,  but  has  the  present 
ability  to  do  so,  may  be  discharged  from  the  Home. 

The  Department  shall  determine  the  manner  or  method,  and  shall  develop  plans  and  establish  procedures  for 
imp)  ementation  of  this  policy  to  achieve  its  purpose  as  fully  as  possible. 


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Senator  Darrell  Steinberg 
Senate  Rules  Committee 
State  Capitol,  Room  420 
Sacramento,  CA  95814-4900 

Dear  Senator  Steinberg, 

Hereafter  follow  my  responses  to  the  questions  proffered  in  your  letter  of  12 
December. 

1.    What  goals  and  objectives  do  you  hope  to  accomplish  during  your  tenure  as  a 
member  of  the  Veterans  Board?  How  should  we  measure  your  success? 

I  would  like  the  California  Department  of  Veterans  Affairs  (CDVA)  expand  its 
role  to  offer  more  support  to  more  of  the  2. 1  M  veterans  who  reside  in  California. 
The  Department  is  currently  funded  primarily  to  supervise  and  maintain  the 
Veterans  Homes  and  provide  farm  and  home  loans  to  veterans  via  the  CalVet 
Loan  program.  Those  are  both  excellent  programs  and  I  believe  they  should  be 
continued,  but  together  they  provide  services  for  only  a  small  fraction  of 
California  veterans.  CDVA  receives  very  little  funding  for  additional  programs 
and  services  beyond  those,  despite  the  fact  that  veterans  have  additional  needs. 

I  have  attached  a  copy  of  proposed  veterans  priorities  that,  at  my  behest,  the  Board 
adopted  at  the  October  meeting. 

While,  in  light  of  the  current  State  fiscal  difficulties,  it  appears  unlikely  that  the 
CDVA  budget  will  increase  in  the  near  future  to  include  additional  services,  I 
believe  that  low-cost  opportunities  exist  for  CDVA  to  provide  more  support  to 
more  veterans.  I  believe,  however,  that  opportunities  exist  for  CDVA  both  to 
improve  support  for  veterans  while,  in  long  run,  also  increasing  State  revenues. 
For  example,  California  ranks  38th  in  nation  (on  a  veterans  per  capita  basis)  for 
receiving  Federal  Veterans  Administration  Disability  Compensation.  Improving 
that  ranking  will  increase  revenues  from  Federal  government  into  California.  I 
also  believe  that  California  can  improve  the  employment  environment  for 
veterans,  thereby  increasing  employment,  and  the  levels  of  employment  and 
increasing  tax  revenues. 

I  believe  that  CDVA  can  become  more  efficient  and  effective,  in  part,  by 
improving  its  communications  with  and  among  veterans,  informing  them  of  their 
benefits  and  changes  thereto,  encouraging  them  to  avail  themselves  of  those 
benefits,  and  improving  the  rate  (both  per  capita  and  in  time)  at  which  they  do. 
CDVA  can  accomplish  this  in  part  by  leveraging  the  support  of  veterans  and 
veterans  organizations  which,  at  this  time,  are  fragmented,  to  extend  its  voice  and 
effectiveness.  Improving  communications  can  be  accomplished,  I  believe,  at  very 
low  cost  and  with  a  very  high  return,  though  the  implementation  will  require 
concerted  and  dedicated  efforts. 

I  also  believe  that  those  men  and  women  who  volunteered  to  serve  "in  harm's 
way"  deserve  to  be  employed  upon  the  completion  of  their  service,  but  also  to 
beemployed  at  a  level  commensurate  with  their  skills  and  abilities.  It  is  tragic  and 
incomprehensible  that  young  veterans  suffer  higher  rates  of  both  unemployment 

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and  underemployment  than  their  peers  and  that  a  number  on  municipalities  in  this  state,  which  enjoys 
a  significant  presence  of  military  bases  and  service  members,  do  not  have  current  veterans  hiring 
policies.  While  I  do  not  advocate  legislating  this  requirement,  State  officials  can  advocate  at  local 
levels  and  provide  assistance  in  drafting  those  policies.  Additionally,  State  officials  can  advocate 
among  the  corporate  leadership  of  the  State  to  hire  veterans  and  also  provide  tax  and  other  incentives 
for  doing  so. 

While  veterans  healthcare  is  primarily  a  Federal  responsibility,  gaps  in  healthcare,  especially 
mental  healthcare,  exist.  If  those  veterans  are  to  live  healthy  and  productive  lives,  it  is 
incumbent  upon  California  both  to  ensure  that  they  receive  the  VA  benefits  they  rate  and  to 
provide  interim  care  for  them  while  they  are  awaiting  VA  treatment  and  compensation. 

All  time,  effort,  and  money  spent  in  this  endeavor  is  an  investment  in  the  future  of  California  and 
its  veterans,  and,  indeed,  all  of  its  citizens,  which,  I  am  convinced,  will  pay  dividends  long  into 
the  future  in  many  ways. 

►  I  would  like  my  success  can  be  measured  by  the  extent  to  which  CDVA  expands  its  role 
address  issues  beyond  veterans  home  and  the  CalVet  loan  program.  I  am  fully  aware 
that  the  State  legislature  must  support  and  lead  in  that  effort. 

2.  What  experience  do  you  bring  to  the  board  that  will  be  helpful  to  the  Veterans  Board? 

I  am  an  active  volunteer/community  servant  and  have  gained  invaluable  knowledge  and 
experience  from  those  activities.  I  am  the  immediate  past  national  commander  of  the  Legion  of 
Valor.  I  have  participated  as  a  member  of  the  San  Diego  County  United  Veterans  Council  for 
more  than  ten  years  and  have  commenced  my  third  year  as  chairperson  of  that  body.  Other 
current  volunteer  roles  include:  the  secretary  of  the  California  State  Commanders  Veterans 
Council;  a  member  of  the  Board  of  Directors  of  the  San  Diego  Veterans  Museum  and  Memorial 
Center;  the  senior  vice  commandant  of  the  San  Diego  Bulldog  Detachment  835,  Marine  Corps 
League;  a  member  of  the  Marine  Corps  Committee  of  the  San  Diego  Council  of  the  Navy 
League;  the  coordinator  of  the  Marine  Corps  Air  Station,  Miramar,  Provisional  Rotary  Club;  and 
as  a  mentor  to  the  San  Diego  State  University  Student  Veterans  Organization.  Additionally,  I 
have  served  in  a  variety  of  volunteer/community  service  roles,  including  a  number  of  boards  of 
directors,  all  of  which  have  valuable  experience,  some  of  it  specific  to  veterans  issues,  some  of 
it  more  pertinent  to  governance  and  leadership.  I  have  attached  a  summary  of  my  community 
service  activities  for  your  review. 

3.  What  training  have  you  received  for  your  role  as  a  board  member? 

I  received  a  formal  orientation  from  CDVA,  including  briefings  by  the  secretary  and  each  of  the 
deputy  secretaries.  I  have  also  received  training  regarding  ethics  and  conflict  of  interest  and  have 
completed  the  California  Ethics  Interactive  Training. 

4.  Do  you  view  the  role  of  the  Veterans  Board  as  one  of  policy  setting  for  DVA  or  advistory?  What 
is  your  experience  with  how  the  department  views  the  Board's  role? 

MILITARY  AND  VETERANS  CODE 

SECTION  72.  The  California  Veterans  Board  shall  determine  the  policies  for  all  operations  of 
the  department. 

It  is  my  opinion  that  the  Secretary  and  the  Department  fully  comprehend  the  both  the  Spirit  and 
the  intent  of  Section  72,  above. 

In  my  experience  as  a  member  of  boards  of  directors,  I  believe  that  a  critical  responsibility  of 
board  members  is  to  be  able  to  comprehend  the  difference  between  strategic  and  tactical  issues 


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and  to  refrain  from  micro-managing  the  organizational  leadership  and  employees.  The 
responsibility  of  the  Board  is  to  determine  policies  and  the  extent  to  which  the  Department 
implements  those  policies  effectively  and  efficiently.  It  is  not  the  role  of  the  Board  to  dictate  to 
the  Secretary  the  methods  of  that  implementation. 

5 .  Please  give  an  example  of  a  policy  the  board  has  set  for  the  department  in  the  time  you  have  been 
a  member. 

I  do  not  recall  that  the  Board  has  established  a  new  policy.  We  did,  however,  discuss  whether 
veterans  with  criminal  records  should  be  admitted  to  the  veterans  homes.  After  somewhat 
lengthy  discussion,  we  determined  that  the  issue  was  more  tactical  than  strategic  and  suggested 
to  the  Secretary  and  the  Deputy  Secretary  for  Veterans  Homes  that  the  Department  review  its 
procedures  to  include  more  effective  background  checks  for  prospective  residents,  and  to 
standardize  the  admissions  procedures  among  all  of  the  veterans  homes,  including  future  homes. 

During  my  tenure,  the  Board  reviewed  all  current  policies  and  determined  them  to  be  sufficient. 
The  Board  intends  to  review  its  policies  regularly  to  ensure  that  they  are  current,  relevant,  and 
necessary. 

6.  Was  the  appeals  policy  adopted  in  December  2006  followed  at  the  October  Board  meeting? 

Prior  to  hearing  each  of  the  two  appeals  during  the  October  meeting,  the  Board  received  briefings 
and  advice  from  the  CDVA  legal  department.  After  hearing  the  evidence  in  each  case,  the  Board 
determined  in  both  cases  that  it  could  render  decisions  without  further  legal  advice. 

7.  How  has  the  board  made,  or  does  it  plan  to  make,  any  changes  to  the  appeals  policy? 

I  have  had  the  pleasure  of  working  with  the  CDVA  counsel,  Robert  Wilson,  on  several  occasions 
and  I  find  him  to  be  both  competent  and  fair.  Further,  I  feel  confident  that  he  fully  grasps  the 
respective  legally  mandated  roles  of  the  Board  and  the  Department  and  also  feel  confident  that 
he  and  the  CDVA  legal  division  can  and  will  properly  support  and  advise  the  Board.  I  do 
recognize,  however,  that,  in  order  to  prevent  the  "appearance  of  impropriety,"  it  might,  under 
some  circumstances,  behoove  the  Board  to  seek  independent  counsel.  The  Board's  budget, 
however,  does  not  include  the  requisite  funding  to  retain  an  independent  counsel.  If  the 
legislature  and  the  Governor  desire  that  the  Board  be  capable  of  fulfilling  its  role  unencumbered 
by  conflicts  of  interest,  it  should  make  provisions  for  the  Board  to  be  able  to  hire  independent 
counsel  if  that  need  arises. 

The  Board  does  not  currently  have  an  agenda  item  to  change  the  appeals  policy. 

8 .  Has  the  board  adopted  a  policy  specifying  the  time  frames  for  resolving  complaints?  If  so,  please 
describe?  If  not,  why  not? 

The  Chairperson  is  adamant  that  appeals  should  be  processed  and  resolved  as  expeditiously  as 
possible.  I  concur  with  her  sentiment  and  I  believe  that  the  other  members  do,  as  well. 

The  Board  has  not  developed  a  specific  policy  regarding  a  length  of  time  for  resolving  disputes. 
Currently,  CDVA  notifies  the  Board's  executive  officer  (EO)  when  it  receive  claims  and  the  EO 
notifies  the  Chairperson,  who  maintains  a  dialogue  with  the  EO  and  CDVA  regarding  each 
appeal.  If  CDVA  cannot  resolve  the  claim  expeditiously,  then  the  EO  and  the  Chairperson 
schedule  the  appeal  to  be  heard  at  the  next  Board  meeting. 

Under  Mr.  Wilson's  leadership,  CDVA  has  been  much  more  efficient  in  processing  and 
resolving  claims.  Resultantly,  claims  have  been  resolved  faster  and  fewer  claims  have  required 
Board  hearings.  Mr.  Wilson's  competent  management  of  claims  has,  I  believe,  obviated  the  need 
for  a  new  policy. 

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9.  Has  the  board  established  procedures  for  tracking  complaints?  If  so,  please  describe?  If  not, 
why  not? 

In  my  opinion,  the  tactical  responsibility  for  tracking  complaints,  recording  hearing  results,  and 
for  filing  them,  rests  with  the  Board's  EO.  In  my  brief  experience  on  the  Board,  I  believe  the  EO 
has  demonstrated  competence  in  the  handling  of  claims  and  the  she  has,  under  the  guidance  and 
supervision  of  the  Chairperson,  established  the  requisite  procedures. 

10.  How  do  you  stay  informed  of  living  conditions  and  staffing  issues  at  the  veterans  homes  in 
Yountville,  Barstow,  and  Chula  Vista? 

In  the  past,  the  Board  has  schedule  most  of  its  meetings  to  occur  on  a  rotating  basis  at  one  of  the 
veterans'  homes.  During  each  of  those  visits,  the  Board  members  receive  a  tour  and  a  briefing 
about  the  homes,  including  any  significant  issues  that  had  occurred,  from  staff  members  of  the 
respective  home.  Board  members  have  the  opportunity  to  ask  questions  and  probe  on  issues  of 
concern.  Additionally,  the  Secretary' s  briefings  to  the  Board  include  "significant  matters"  which 
include  issues  of  concern  pertaining  to  the  homes.  The  Deputy  Secretary  for  Veterans  Homes 
also  attend  Board  meetings  and  offers  additional  comments. 

At  the  December  meeting,  the  Board  agreed  to  conduct  visits  in  groups  of  two  to  the  veterans 
homes  and  report  the  results  of  those  visits  to  at  subsequent  Board  meetings. 

11.  Does  the  department  seek  the  board's  advice  on  any  changes  in  policies  with  the  respect  to 
admittance  of  veterans  to  a  veterans  home,  definitions  for  the  levels  of  care  provided  by  the 
department  at  the  homes,  or  other  regulations  that  might  impact  the  board's  authority  over  the 
appeals  from  veterans  who  were  denied  admittance  to  a  veterans  home?  Please  provide 
examples. 

Please  refer  to  paragraph  #s  4  and  8,  above. 

I  do  not  recall  an  occasion  during  my  Board  experience  in  which  the  Secretary/CDVA  has 
solicited  advice,  other  than  as  discussed  in  #  8,  above,  pertaining  to  a  policy  or  prospective 
policy.  The  Secretary,  though,  at  each  Board  meeting  has  provided  the  Board  with  ample 
opportunity  to  comment  on  significant  issues  and  query  CDV A  leadership  about  effective  policy 
implementation,  and,  if  necessary,  to  suggest  prospective  policy  changes.  CDVA  Counsel 
Wilson  has  advised  the  Board  on  matters  pertaining  to  existing  policies. 

In  my  experience,  the  Board  enjoys  an  excellent  relationship  with  CDVA  and  all  of  its  leadership 
staff  members  and  I  find  the  relationship  between  the  Board  and  CDVA  to  be  open, 
collaborative,  and  founded  in  mutual  respect. 

May  I  respectfully  reiterate  my  belief  that  the  Board  should  limit  its  business  to  strategic  issues 
and  leave  the  tactics  to  the  CDVA  leadership. 

12.  Have  there  been  significant  successes  or  challenges  in  the  first  year  of  operation  of  the 
Yountville  Memory  Care  Center?  Is  the  center  operating  at  capacity? 

I  do  not  serve  on  the  Homes  Committee  and  have  not  received  and  information,  either  positive 
or  adverse,  regarding  the  Memory  Care  Center,  other  than  that  it  exists.  The  Homes  Committee 
has  not  reported  any  concerns  to  the  Board. 

13.  What  role  does  the  board  plan  in  monitoring  funding  and  construction  of  new  veterans  homes? 

CDVA  provides  updates  at  each  Board  meeting  about  the  progress  of  construction  of  the  new 
veterans  homes.  Although  this  is,  of  course,  of  interest  to  the  Board,  it  seems  to  me  that,  once 
the  policy  decisions  have  been  made  to  build  additional  homes,  there  is  very  little  that  the  Board 

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can  do  to  influence  the  contracting  and  construction  processes.  Indeed,  it  is  my  understanding 
that  the  design,  contracting,  and  construction  processes  are  managed  and  supervised  by  an 
agency(ies)  external  to  CDVA. 

14.  Are    the    lessons    learned    from    the    building    and    inspection    issues    at    Yountville 
Alzheimers' /Dementia  Unit  Transferable  to  the  construction  of  the  new  veterans  homes? 

Intuitively,  I  must  respond  affirmatively,  but,  not  being  on  the  Homes  Committee,  I  have  not 
been  briefed  at  the  level  of  detail  that  would  enable  me  to  comment  knowledgeably  on  this  issue. 
Once  again,  the  Homes  Committee  has  not  reported  any  concerns  to  the  Board. 

15.  What  are  the  expected  completion  dates  and  opening  dates  for  each  of  the  three  new  veterans 
homes? 

The  Department  projects  dedications  of  the  Lancaster  and  Ventura  homes  in  May  or  June  of  this 
year,  with  residents  being  admitted  in  mid-summer;  it  project  the  West  LA  home  to  follow  about 
one  year  later. 

The  progress  of  the  Redding  and  Fresno  homes  is  currently  dependent  upon  State  finances  and 
the  actions  of  the  Pooled  Money  Investment  Board. 

16.  How  does  the  board  monitor  the  CalVet  loan  program? 

At  each  Board  meeting,  CDVA  provides  as  part  of  its  briefing  the  status  of  the  CalVet  loan 
program,  including  current  interest  rates,  and  other  relevant  statistics.  At  the  most  recent 
meeting,  the  Deputy  Secretary  for  the  CalVet  Loan  program  delivered  a  detailed  and  very 
comprehensive  presentation  about  the  program. 

17.  De  you  believe  the  loan  program  is  adequately  providing  California  veterans  with  lower  cost 
loans?  What  changes,  if  any,  would  you  recommend  to  make  the  program  more  effective? 

I  believe  that  the  CalVet  loan  program  provides  the  lowest  interest  rates  possible.  While  those 
may  not  always  be  lower  than  market  rates,  the  combination  of  interest  rates  and  lower  cost 
insurance  will  continue  to  make  CalVet  loans  attractive  to  veterans. 

I  would  like  the  program  to  include  the  capability  to  offer  re-financing  loans  to  veterans,  rather 
than  just  initial  financing  of  properties  new  to  the  veterans. 

1 8.  As  California  and  the  rest  of  the  country  are  experiencing  a  housing  and  economic  crisis,  has  the 
CalVet  Home  Loan  Program  experienced  any  related  problems?  Do  you  anticipate  an  increase 
in  the  CalVet  Home  Loan  applications  because  of  the  difficulty  in  securing  new  mortgages  from 
traditional  private-sector  lending  sources? 

Media  resistance  (albeit  relatively  few  organizations  opposed  it)  to  the  recent  Proposition  12 
bond  initiative  resulted  primarily  from  the  increasingly  adverse  market  conditions.  If  that 
opposition  increased  in  the  future,  it  could  pose  the  greatest  potential  threat  to  the  program. 

Increasingly  adverse  employment  conditions  in  the  State  will  make  it  more  difficult  for  some 
percentage  of  veterans  to  qualify  for  loans. 

In  my  opinion  the  potential  increase  of  loan  applications  due  to  market  conditions  will  probably 
be  fairly  small,  but  with  the  change  in  the  law  to  enable  the  program  to  provide  loans  to  post- 
Vietnam  veterans  will  result  in  more  applications. 

19.  What  recommendations,  if  any,  has  the  board  given  the  department  to  try  to  assist  homeless 
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The  veterans  homes  accommodate  a  small  percentage  of  homeless  veterans,  and  CDV A  staff 
members  attend  "Stand  Downs"  in  the  state,  but  CDV  A,  regrettably,  does  not  receive  sufficient 
financing  to  address  veterans  homelessness  effectively.  Veterans  homelessness  is  a  complex 
issue  which  is  best  accomplished  by  treating  the  symptoms;  that  is  by  preventing  homelessness. 
Doing  so  requires  a  multi-facted  solution,  including  improving  mental  healthcare  (for  combat 
stress/PTSD/TBI),  improving  veterans  educational  and  employment  opportunities,  ensuring 
affordable  housing,  providing  alternative  sentencing  and  veterans  courts,  and  supporting 
substance  abuse  treatment.  If  CDVA  is  to  improve  it  efforts  to  reduce  and  treat  homelessness, 
it  must  receive  additional  funding. 

20.  Are  there  any  policies,  programs,  or  initiatives  you  believe  the  state  should  be  implementing  to 
help  the  younger  generation  of  veterans  created  post  9/11? 

I  believe  that  the  substance  of  this  answer  to  this  question  can  be  found  above  and  in  the  veterans 
priorities,  below. 

California  must  strive  to  ensure  that  veterans  of  the  "Global  War  on  Terror'"  are  not  treated  as 
my  generation  was,  that  is  reviled,  disrespected,  and  suffered  benefit  reductions  due  to  the 
influence  of  anti-war  activists.  We  must  distinguish  between  war  and  the  warriors,  recognize 
their  service,  sacrifice,  and  contributions  and  reward  them  for  them. 

Our  veterans  are  the  very  flower  of  their  generation.  They  are  the  ones  who  accepted  the  call  to 
duty  and  responsibility  for  defending  us  and  our  nation.  They  were  healthy  and  fit  for  duty, 
capable  both  mentally  and  physically.  They  are  the  risk-takers  of  their  generation.  They 
accepted  the  risks  of  personal  injury  and  even  death,  of  personal  and  family  sacrifice.  In  business 
and  finance,  risk  is  often  rewarded.  If  we  are  to  expect  future  generation  to  emulate  the  current 
one,  we  as  Californians  should  reward  our  current  veterans  and  honor  them.  That,  too,  is  an 
investment  in  our  future,  the  future  of  our  State,  our  Nation,  and,  indeed,  in  the  lives  of  all  of  us. 
They  will  be  our  future,  out  community  and  political  leaders.  We  should  do  all  we  can  to  enable 
their  success. 


Respectfully  submitted, 


/ Lch~g:\    Af    n^MLJs: 


Thomas  A.  Richards 

Lieutenant  Colonel,  USMC  (Ret.) 


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California  Veterans  Board  Priorities 

(Sequence  does  not  connote  priority; 

•  Veterans'  Healthcare  (especially  mental  healthcare; 

♦  Disseminating  information  to  California  veterans  about  their  Federal  VA  healthcare  benefits; 
the  process  of  applying  for  VA  disability  compensation;  and  the  appeals  process. 

♦  Disseminating  information  to  California  veterans  about  combat  stress,  PTSD,  and  TBI; 
treatment  options;  and  where  and  how  to  apply. 

•  Veterans'  Employment 

♦  Develop  legislative  initiatives  to  improve  the  climate  for  veterans  employment  throughout 
California,  including  governments  and  municipalities  at  all  levels  and  the  private/corporate 
and  non-profit  sectors. 

♦  Develop  initiatives  to  work  with  and  encourage  private  and  non-profit  sectors  to  hire 
veterans. 

•  Veterans'  Education 

♦  Develop  legislative  initiatives  to  ensure  that  all  California  colleges  and  universities  provide 
information  and  assistance  to  all  veteran  students  regarding  Federal  VA  education  benefits 
and  how  to  apply  for  them. 

♦  Advocate  for  educational  benefits  for  members  of  the  California  National  Guard 

•  Veterans'  Homelessness  Reduction  and  Treatment 

♦  Develop  legislative  initiatives  to  help  prevent  veterans  homelessness  by: 

■  Treating  the  root  causes  and  thereby  reducing  its  incidence  among  veterans 

■  Improving  veterans'  employment  opportunities: 

■  Encouraging  the  full  implementation  of  California's  alternative  sentencing  law  and 
establishing  Veterans'  Courts 

■  Increasing  substance  abuse  prevention  programs  and  substance  abuse  treatment  programs 

■  Increasing  funds  for  rehabilitation  of  homeless  veterans 

•  Improving  Communications  with  and  among  Veterans 

♦  Increasing  the  number  of  veterans  receiving  CDVA  communications 

♦  Increasing  veterans'  enrollment  in  the  Veterans  Administration  Healthcare  System 

♦  Encouraging  veterans'  Membership  in  Veterans  Service  Organizations  (VSO 

♦  Communicating  these  priorities  and  resulting  programs  and  legislative  initiative  to 
veterans  at  every  opportunity',  including  speaking  engagements  by  CD  V  A  representatives  and 
CalVet  Board  members. 

•  CalVet  Home  and  Farm  Loans 

♦  Disseminate  information  to  California  veterans  to  ensure  the  highest  possible  level  of 
participation 


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Lieutenant  Colonel  Thomas  A.  Richards,  USMC  (Ret.) 
Community  Service  Activities 

LtCol.  Richards  retired  from  active  duty  at  Washington,  DC,  in  1995  and  returned  to 
California — where  he  had  served  several  active-duty  tours — shortly  thereafter.  He  had  been 
active  in  serving  his  communities  for  nearly  more  than  a  decade.  While  living  in  Virginia,  he 
served  as  the  Programs'  Chairperson  of  the  National  Capitol  Chapter  of  the  American  Society  for 
Quality,  as  Vice  President  of  the  Northern  Virginia  Chapter  of  the  American  Society  for  Quality 
and  Productivity,  and  Programs  Chairperson  for  the  National  Capitol  Commandery  of  the  Naval 
Order  of  the  United  States.  In  the  latter  capacity,  he  instigated  changes  that  resulted  in  more 
events,  events  that  more  closely  adhered  to  the  mission  of  the  organization,  and  events  that 
attracted  greater  attendance  than  had  previously  been  achieved.  One  of  those  events,  a  debate  of 
the  Kimmel-Short  Pearl  Harbor  responsibility  controversy  between  the  famous  WWII  submarine 
skipper,  naval  hero,  and  best-selling  author  (Run  Silent,  Run  Deep),  Captain  Ned  Beach,  and 
military  historian,  Dr.  Joseph  Strange,  was  extremely  successful  in  promoting  the  Naval  Order  of 
the  United  States  and  the  National  Capitol  Commandery.  He  has  continued  his  affiliation  with 
the  Naval  Order  of  the  United  States  and  in  2004  served  on  the  planning  committee  for  its 
National  Congress,  which  was  held  in  San  Diego  during  Fleet  Week  in  October,  2004. 

A  recipient  of  the  Navy  Cross,  LtCol.  Richards  is  active  in  the  Legion  of  Valor  (chartered  by 
Congress  in  1890,  the  Legion  of  Valor  regular  membership  comprises  recipients  of  the 
Congressional  Medal  of  Honor  and  of  the  Navy  Cross,  Distinguished  Service  Cross,  and/or  Air 
Force  Cross)  in  which  he  served  as  the  National  Commander  for  fiscal  year  2008  and  continues 
to  serve  as  the  Commander  of  California  Chapter,  the  largest  and  most  active  of  all  Legion  of 
Valor  chapters.  In  his  capacity  as  a  national  officer,  he  is  spearheading  an  initiative  to  develop  a 
national  marketing  strategy  to  gain  greater  recognition  for  the  organization.  In  pursuit  of  that 
objective,  in  2004  he  coordinated  the  participation  of  thirteen  Legion  of  Valor  members  (three 
Congressional  Medal  of  Honor  and  thirteen  service  cross  recipients)  in  the  opening  ceremony  of 
the  national  convention  of  the  Navy  League  of  the  United  States.  Additionally,  he  instigated 
Legion  of  Valor  participation  in  Fleet  Week,  which  resulted  in  the  "Sea  Services  Salute  to 
Heroes,"  a  reception,  coordinated  jointly  by  Fleet  Week  San  Diego  and  the  Naval  Order  of  the 
United  States,  on  board  the  USS  Midway  on  Friday,  15  October  2004.  He  also  served  as  the 
chair  of  the  Society's  Museum  Committee,  which  oversaw  the  staff  of  the  Legion  of  Valor 
Museum  in  Fresno.  As  the  Southern  California  Chapter  commander,  he  implemented  a  new 
newsletter  format,  is  regularizing  the  meeting  schedule,  improving  the  quality  of  the  meeting 
programs,  improving  communications  with  Chapter  members,  and  attracting  greater  attendance 
at  the  meetings.  During  2005,  he  combined  the  two  California  chapters  into  one  and  now 
coordinates  events  and  communications  statewide. 

LtCol.  Richards  served  four  terms  as  a  member  of  the  board  of  directors  of  the  MCRD  [San 
Diego]  Museum  Historical  Society.  During  2004,  he  served  as  chairperson  of  its  strategic 
planning  and  marketing  committees.  That  strategic  planning  process  resulted  in:  a  board  of 
directors  committee  restructuring,  including  specific  responsibility  assignments  for  each  of  those 
committees;  a  capital  campaign  planning  initiative;  revised  by-laws;  and  the  board  approval  to 
hire  an  executive  director  of  the  Society.  He  assumed  responsibility  of  chairperson  of  the  board's 
Marketing  Committee  in  July,  2004. 

From  2003  to  2005,  he  served  on  the  board  of  directors  of  Veterans'  Villages  of  San  Diego, 
co-chaired  its  strategic  planning  process,  which  developed  provided  a  strategy  for  its  growth  in 

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its  new  facility.     He  also  served  as  a  member  of  VVSD's  Capital  Campaign  and  Finance 
Committees  and  worked  to  develop  a  board  of  directors'  recruitment  and  orientation  policy. 

Widely  known  in  San  Diego  for  his  service  with  Spirit  of  the  Fourth,  Inc.,  which  produces  the 
Independence  Day  celebration  in  Rancho  Bernardo  each  year,  LtCol.,  Richards  is  in  his  eighth 
year  of  participation  on  the  committee,  including  five  years  as  president  and  two  as  1st  vice 
president/immediate  past  president.  The  celebration  includes  a  VIP  reception,  a  community  fair 
during  the  day,  with  a  pancake  breakfast,  booths,  vendors,  entertainment,  a  vehicle  show,  a 
veterans'  memorial  service,  a  parade,  and  in  the  evening  more  entertainment  and  a  grand 
fireworks  show.  As  president,  he  reorganized  the  board  of  directors  and  the  planning  committee 
and  recruited  new  members.  During  his  tenure  as  president  and  1 st  vice  president,  Spirit  of  the 
Fourth,  Inc.,  has  added  activities  to  its  schedule,  improved  the  overall  quality  of  the  celebration, 
and  increased  both  community  participation  and  attendance  at  the  event.  As  costs  rose,  he 
successfully  spearheaded  the  efforts  to  increase  revenues  (from  $28,000  in  1999  to  more  than 
$70,000  in  2006)  which  allowed  the  organization  to  have  some  reserve  operational  funds.  He 
supervised  the  production  of  the  annual  magazine  and  improved  its  advertising  revenues  while 
also  improving  its  content.  Under  his  leadership,  Spirit  of  the  Fourth,  Inc.,  continues  to  strive  to 
improve  the  Independence  Day  activities.  Finally,  he  coordinates  the  participation  of  the  Legion 
of  Valor  in  the  memorial  service  and  the  parade  and  assists  in  coordinating  active  duty  military 
participation  in  the  celebration.  He  will  serve  again  as  president  for  the  2009  Independence  Day 
celebration. 

LtCol.  Richards  is  active  in  the  Rotary  Club  of  Rancho  Bernardo.  In  2002,  he  served  as  on 
the  International  Committee  as  the  Polio  Eradication  Campaign  representative  and  raised  $6,500 
(from  100  members)  for  Rotary' s  international  campaign  to  eradicate  polio  from  the  Earth.  In 
2003,  he  served  as  the  Club's  coordinator  for  a  three-club  international  grant  of  more  than 
$20,000  for  a  "Village  Banking"  project  in  Ecuador.  Additionally,  he  coordinated  the  Club's 
participation  in  the  Spirit  of  the  Fourth  Independence  Day  activities  and  as  the  coordinator  of  the 
club's  sponsorship  of  Marine  Wing  Communications  Squadron-38  at  MCAS,  Miramar.  He 
served  for  three  years  on  the  Club's  board  of  directors  and  also  for  two  years  on  the  board  of 
directors  of  the  Club's  fundraising  arm,  the  RB  Rotary  Foundation.  He  is  currently  the  project 
coordinator  of  the  effort  to  establish  a  Rotary  Club  on  the  Marine  Corps  Air  Station,  Miramar, 
which  will  be  only  the  second  service  club  on  an  active  military  base. 

LtCol.  Richards  served  three  years  on  board  of  directors  of  the  Rancho  Bernardo  Historical 
Society  in  2004,  which  established  a  temporary  museum  facility  at  the  Bernardo  Winery  early  in 
2005  and  is  planning  for  a  permanent  headquarters  and  museum.  In  2005,  he  was  re-elected  to 
the  board  and  as  2nd  Vice  President,  in  which  he  served  until  2006. 

On  the  environmental  front,  LtCol.  Richards  served  for  two  years  on  the  fund-raising 
committee  of  the  Blue  Sky  Community  Foundation,  helping  to  plan  the  fundraising  gala  event. 
The  2005  Gala  fund-raising  event  occurred  in  March  and  raised  nearly  $50,000  for  the  Blue  Sky 
Reserve  and  the  2006  raised  even  more.    He  served  as  co-chair  of  information  systems  and 
software  representative  on  the  committee  and  was  appointed  to  its  board  of  directors  in  2007. 

LtCol.  Richards  previously  served  three  years  as  a  vice  commander  of  the  General  J. P. 
Holland  Chapter  of  the  Military  Order  of  World  Wars  and  for  two  years  as  a  member  of  the 
board  of  directors  of  the  Rancho  Bernardo  Veterans  Memorial  Committee,  which  produces  three 
memorial  services  each  year  at  the  Veterans'  Memorial  in  Rancho  Bernardo.  He  served  in  1997 
as    the    marketing    representative    on    the    planning    committee    of   the    Four    Chaplains' 

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commemoration  which  occurred  at  the  Organ  Pavilion  in  Balboa  Park  and  attracted  an  audience 
of  700.  And,  he  helps  plan  reunions  of  his  Marine  Corps  Officers'  Basic  School  class  of  1974. 
For  six  years,  LtCol.  Richards  has  nominated  panelists  for  and  participated  in  annual  San  Diego 
NROTC's  Combat  Leadership  Panel  at  the  University  of  San  Diego. 

From  2005  to  2007,  LtCol.  Richards  served  as  the  Marine  Corps  Committee  Chair  of  the  San 
Diego  Council  of  the  Navy  League.  In  that  role,  he  coordinated  the  Council's  award  recognition 
for  Marines  and  Sailors  of  the  Quarter  and  Marines  and  of  the  Year,  represented  the  Council  at 
the  award  presentations,  also  presided  as  master  of  ceremonies  at  the  Council's  annual  Marine 
Corp  Birthday  Luncheons.  He  continues  to  serve  on  Marine  Corps  Committee.  He  also  serves  as 
the  senior  vice  commandant  of  the  San  Diego  Bulldog  Detachment  835. 

LtCol.  Richards  also  produces  the  "Band  of  Brothers  Marine  Corps  Birthday  Celebration" 
each  year  on  1 0  November.  Active  duty,  former  and  retired  Marines,  members  of  the  Marine 
Corps  family,  and  sister  service  members  are  welcome  at  the  event.  Demographically,  the  2003 
event  included  attendance  by  three  general  officers,  a  former  private  first  class,  a  reserve 
corporal,  and  all  ranks  between,  including  Marine  veterans  of  Guadalcanal,  Iwo  Jima,  Korea, 
Vietnam,  Desert  Storm,  Somalia,  and  Iraqi  Freedom,  a  Congressional  Medal  of  Honor  and  four 
Navy  Cross  recipients,  and  two  former  Navy  corpsmen  and  two  Army  Vietnam  veterans.  The 
2005  event  included  twenty-one  active  duty  members,  including  five  Marines  recuperating  from 
combat  wounds  at  the  Balboa  Naval  Medical  Center,  and  was  the  largest  event  to  date. 

In  July,  2004,  Fifth  District  City  Council  Member  Brian  Maienschein  has  asked  LtCol. 
Richards  to  serve  as  the  5th  District  Veterans'  Liaison.  In  that  role,  he  met  with  staff  members  of 
the  San  Diego  Housing  Commission  regarding  low  cost  housing  for  veterans. 

An  active  member  of  the  San  Diego  County  United  Veterans  Council,  LtCol.  Richards  was 
recognized  as  the  Marine  Corps  honoree  at  the  first  annual  San  Diego  County  Veterans'  Ball  in 
June,  2005.  He  served  as  the  chair  person  of  the  first  annual  San  Diego  County  Veterans' 
Seminar  &  Resource  Fair,  a  full-day  event  in  Balboa  Park  which  occurred  in  June  2007  included: 
the  Seminar  with  six  hours  of  discussion  forums;  a  luncheon  with  RADM  Ronne  Froman,  USN 
(Ret.)  as  the  keynote  speaker;  and  the  Resource  Fair  with  more  than  seventy  veteran-oriented 
vendor  booths.  He  also  chaired  the  2007  event,  partnering  with  the  California  Employment 
Development  Department,  which  was  even  more  successful.  In  November,  2006,  he  was  elected 
to  the  chairpersonship  of  the  San  Diego  County  United  Veterans'  Council  and  was  reelected  for 
the  2008  term. 

In  2007,  LtCol  Richards  was  elected  to  the  board  of  directors  of  the  San  Diego  Veterans 
Museum  and  Memorial  Center  in  Balboa  Park  and  he  is  the  co-chair  of  its  Marketing  Committee. 
In  2006  he  became  a  mentor  to  the  San  Diego  State  University  Student  Veterans  Organization 
and  continues  to  serve  in  that  role.  As  a  result  of  his  advocacy  of  veterans'  issues,  he  was 
appointed  by  Governor  Arnold  Schwarzenneger  in  February  2008  to  a  four-year  term  on  the 
California  Veterans  Board,  which  establishes  policy  for  the  California  Department  of  Veterans 
Affairs.  In  April,  2008,  he  was  elected  as  the  acting  secretary  of  the  California  State 
Commanders  Veterans  Council  (a  non-profit  organization  comprising  the  State  leadership  of 
twenty  veterans  organizations)  and  in  October  was  elected  to  a  full  term  in  that  role. 

During  2005,  LtCol  Richards  delivered  leadership  presentations  to  the  Southern  California 
Military  Order  of  World  Wars'  Youth  Leadership  Conference  at  the  University  of  San  Diego  and 
to  the  Freedom  Foundation  of  the  Michigan  National  Guard  in  Alpena,  Michigan.    He  also 

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delivered  patriotic  presentations  at  the  Rancho  Santa  Fe  Republican  Womens'  Club's  "Salute  to 
America"  and  monthly  meetings  of  the  Mission  Valley  Rotary  Club  and  the  DeAnza  Chapter  of 
the  Daughters  of  the  American  Revolution.  He  delivered  informational  presentations  about  the 
Vietnam  Veterans  of  San  Diego  homeless  shelter  to  a  Legion  of  Valor  chapter  meeting  and  a 
monthly  meeting  of  the  Navy  League. 

In  recognition  of  his  community  service,  LtCol  Richards  was  selected  in  2005  for 
membership  in  the  Rancho  Bernardo  Hall  of  Fame,  one  of  only  ninety-selectees  since  1 974  and 
of  forty-three  living  members.  In  2007  he  served  on  the  selection  committee  for  the  2008 
nominees. 

LtCol.  Richards  is  a  life  member  of  the  Legion  of  Valor,  the  Military  Officers  Association  of 
America,  the  Military  Order  of  World  Wars,  The  Military  Order  of  the  Carabao,  the  1 st  Marine 
Division  Association,  the  Third  Marine  Division  Association,  the  Naval  Order  of  the  United 
States,  the  Marine  Corps  Scout  Sniper  Association,  the  Military  Order  of  the  Purple  Heart,  the 
Navy  League  of  the  United  States,  and  Veterans  of  Foreign  Wars.  He  is  an  annual  member  of  the 
Marine  Corps  Association,  the  Marine  Corps  Heritage  Foundation,  the  Marines  Memorial 
Association,  the  American  Legion,  the  Marine  Corps  League,  the  Disabled  American  Veterans, 
the  Society  for  Military  History,  the  Sierra  Club,  the  National  Geographic  Society,  the 
Wilderness  Society,  the  National  Wildlife  Society,  the  Highpointers  Association,  the  American 
Hiking  Society,  the  Professional  Association  of  Diving  Professionals,  The  San  Pasqual  Volunteer 
Battlefield  Association,  and  more. 


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The  Honorable  Darrell  Steinberg 
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Dear  Senator  Steinberg: 

Thank  you  for  giving  me  the  opportunity  to  discuss  with  the  Committee  my  short  and 
long  term  goals  as  a  commissioner  on  the  Commission  on  the  Status  of  Women.  In  the 
immediate  future,  I  intend  to  highlight  the  concerns  of  women  and  girls  in  the  Bay  Area 
and  specifically,  in  Oakland.  In  Oakland,  women  face  such  barriers  to  success  as  child 
prostitution,  illiteracy,  childhood  obesity,  asthma  and  much  more.  Many  of  these 
concerns  have  been  captured  in  the  legislative  agenda  recently  voted  on  by  the 
Commission.  In  the  long  term,  I  intend  to  focus  on  education.  I  believe  that  children 
should  be  allowed  to  establish  the  life-ling  love  of  learning  that  will  provide  them  with 
the  foundation  to  make  informed  life  decisions  and  propel  them  into  prosperous  and 
productive  future.  I  also  believe  that  the  Arts  play  a  large  role  in  providing  an  educational 
tool  to  teachers  and  students  alike  and  can  enhance  all  curriculums.  Every  child  should 
have  access  to  arts  education  at  their  respective  campus.  In  Oaklancl  and  in  California, 
our  school  system  has  not  yet  reached  this  potential.  I  intend  to  assist  in  making  it  so. 

Sincerely, 


Cynthia  L.  Deliums 

First  Lady,  City  of  Oakland 


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3       DEIDRA    E  .    LOWE,    Member,    Workers'   Compensation 

Appeals    Board 
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INDEX 


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8  Proceedings    1 

9  Governor's    Appointees: 
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PHYLLIS    W.    CHENG,    Ph.D.,    Director,    Department 
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Opening    statement   by    Ms.    Cheng    3 

Questions    by    SENATOR     OROPEZA     re. 

Backlog/expiration    of  com  plaints  5 

Improvement   of   the    DFEH     7 

Questions     by     CHAIRMAN     STEINBERG     RE: 

Performance    audit    8 

Perception    of   practitioners    and 

others    regarding    the    DFEH     9 

Average    number   of  successful 

prosecutions    per   year    11 

Caseload    of  investigators    12 

Witnesses    in    Support    of   Appointee 

MIKE    FEUER,    42nd    Assembly    District    13 


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APPEARANCES 
MEMBERS     PRESENT 

SENATOR  DARRELL    STEINBERG,    Chair 

SENATOR  GIL    CEDILLO 

SENATOR  SAMUEL    AANESTAD 

SENATOR  ROBERT     DUTTON 

SENATOR  JENNY     OROPEZA 

STAFF     PRESENT 

JANE    LEONARD     BROWN,    Committee    Assistant 

NETTIE    SABELHAUS,    Appointments    Consultant 

SANDY    KENYON,    Principal    Consultant 

DAN     SAVAGE,    Assistant    to     SENATOR     CEDILLO 

BILL    BAILEY,    Assistant    to     SENATOR     AANESTAD 

CHRIS     BURNS,    Assistant    to    SENATOR     DUTTON 

BRENDAN     HUGHES,    Assistant    to    SENATOR     OROPEZA 

ALSO     PRESENT 


PHYLLIS     W.    CHENG,    Ph.D.,    Director,    Department    of 
Fair    Employment   and    Housing 


CYNTHIA    D.    FLORES,    Member,    California    State    Lottery 
Com  m  ission 


Witnesses    in    Support    of   Appointee    (cont.I: 
JERRILYN     MALANA,    Littler    Mendelson,    PC 
PHIL    HOROWITZ,    California     Employment 
Lawyers    Association    17 


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,TTI    PEREZ,    Labor    &    Employment    Law    Section 


of  the    California    State    Bar 

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Disability    Rights    Legal  Center    


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CYNTHIA    D.    FLORES.    Member,    California    State 
Lottery    Commission     24 

Introduction    by    SENATOR     DUCHENY  24 

Opening    statement    by    Ms      Flores    27 

Question     by     CHAIRMAN     STEINBERG     re 
Potential  to    realize    five    billion 
dollars    in    budget  28 

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22  Question    by    CHAIRMAN     STEINBERG     re 

23  SB899reforms  35 

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1  of  Fair  Employment  and  Housing. 

2  After  having  had  the  honor  and  privilege  of 

3  serving  in  this  position  for  almost  one  year,  I  can  say 

4  with  the  utmost  conviction  and  enthusiasm  that  this  is 

5  the  best  job  in  the  world.    I  am  proud  to  say  that  the 

6  DFEH  is  the  largest  and  finest  state  civil  rights  agency 

7  in  our  nation.   The  department's  dedicated  and 

8  professional  workforce  is  unmatched  in  civil  rights 

9  enforcement.    I  consider  it  the  highest  privilege  to  be 

10  asked  to  lead  such  an  outstanding  organization  and 

11  valiant  staff. 

12  Senators,  in  the  year  that  I  have  directed  the 

13  DFEH,  I  have  seen  the  department  carry  on  its  proud 

14  tradition  of  civil  rights  enforcement  into  a  new  era. 

15  Using  available  technology,  the  department  has  improved 

16  its  efficiency  and  effectiveness  in  serving  the  public 

17  by  automating  an  online  appointment  system  by 

18  transitioning  from  in-person  to  telephone  intakes  and  by 

19  better  targeting  the  right  amount  of  resources  to 

20  investigations  using  a  case-grading  system. 

21  At  the  same  time,  the  DFEH  has  reached  out 

22  to  employers,  housing  providers,  and  businesses  to 

23  proactively  prevent  these  violations.    We  have 

24  produced  acclaimed  videos  to  outreach  to  young  people 

25  about  their  rights  and  responsibilities  in  the 

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1  backlog,  which  I  understand  —  I  guess  it  would  be 

2  called  a  backlog. 

3  There  are  —  Complaints  expire  after  a  year 

4  if  they're  not  concluded;  is  that  correct? 

5  MS.  CHENG:    Yes.    Senator  -- 

6  SENATOR  OROPEZA:    And  when  you  started, 

7  wasn't  there  a  great  big  backlog,  and  it  was  reduced 

8  over  — 

9  MS.  CHENG:    We  don't  have  backlog  in  the 

10  traditional  sense  that,  say,  the  federal  government 

11  would  have  at  the  EEOC,  because  they  do  not  have  a 

12  statutory  period  that  expires.    So  there  are  periods 

13  of  backlog. 

14  SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Right.    I  guess  I  should 

15  say  expirations. 

16  MS.  CHENG:    Yes. 

17  SENATOR  OROPEZA:   There  were  more 

18  expirations. 

19  MS.  CHENG:   We  have  a  few  cases  that  have 

20  gone  beyond  the  365  days,  but  not  very  many  days 

21  beyond  365  days.    It  could  be  366,  it  could  be 

22  370  days.    And  the  reason  for  that  is  sometimes  we 

23  are  trying  to  resolve  these  cases,  and  the  parties 

24  cannot  agree  to  a  settlement.    So  we  do  work  on 

25  those,  but  you  cannot  really  force  it  beyond,  you 

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workforce. 

On  this  50th  anniversary  of  the  Fair 
Employment  and  Housing  Act,  the  department  is 
collaborating  with  many  groups  to  commemorate  the 
half-century  mark  of  California  civil  rights  law. 

If  confirmed,  I  will  devote  myself  to 
carrying  out  the  department's  noble  civil  rights 
mission  for  all  Californians.    I  will  provide  the 
leadership,  management,  and  energy  necessary  to 
enable  my  talented  and  dedicated  staff  to  do  their 
jobs  as  effectively  and  efficiently  as  possible. 

Mr.  Chairman,  the  governor  has  honored  me 
with  this  appointment.   You  and  the  members  of  this 
committee  have  added  to  that  honor  by  your  courtesy 
in  hearing  my  testimony  today,  and  in  my  meetings 
with  your  staff. 

Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman,  for  the  opportunity 
to  be  heard.   Thank  you. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you  very  much, 
Ms.  Cheng.    We  appreciate  that. 

Are  there  questions  from  members  of  the 
Committee?   I  know  I  have  one  or  two. 

Senator  Oropeza,  why  don't  you  go  first. 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Thank  you  for  being  with 
us  today.    I  just  had  one  question  with  regard  to  the 

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1  know,  even  though  the  statutory  period  is  ending. 

2  So  we  do  work  on  those  in  as  timely  manner 

3  as  we  can,  and  we  have,  in  fact,  reduced  those  cases 

4  that  have  gone  beyond  365  days  from  over  80  cases  to 

5  just  over  60  cases. 

6  SENATOR  OROPEZA:    That's  what  my 

7  understanding  was.   To  what  do  you  attribute  that 

8  reduction,  that  improvement? 

9  MS.  CHENG:    Staff  effort,  better  efficiency. 

10  Having  automated  a  lot  of  the  work  we  do,  we  have 

11  more  resources  available  to  devote  to  settlement  and 

12  mediation. 

13  SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Do  you  think  there  will 

14  come  a  day  when  there  will  be  no  one  whose 

15  application  or  appeal  expires? 

16  MS.  CHENG:    We  certainly  are  working  on 

17  that,  Senator.    I  hope  that  day  will  come. 

18  SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Yes.    I  was  just  wondering 

19  in  the  climate  that  we're  in  now,  and  I  know  the 

20  governor  has  asked  for  reductions  from  all 

21  departments,  so  I'm  sort  of  asking  in  that  context. 

22  This  is  a  really  important  department,  as 

23  you  know,  and  I  was  just  wondering  do  you  anticipate 

24  continuing  to  improve,  or  do  you  think  it's  going  to 

25  be  tougher,  or  -- 

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MS.  CHENG:    Senator,  I  anticipate  that  we 
will  improve.   The  staff  is  extremely  motivated.    We 
are  putting  in  systems  that  make  it  more  efficient. 
We're  using  technology,  and  I  think  that's  why  we're 
seeing  the  results  of  that  right  now. 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Very  good.    Okay.   Thank 
you. 

MS.  CHENG:    Thank  you. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you  very  much, 
Senator. 

A  couple  questions  myself.   As  I  understand 
it,  Ms.  Cheng,  the  department  has  commissioned, 
essentially,  a  performance  audit  through  UCLA  and 
Rand  to  look  at  not  only  past  accomplishments,  but  to 
make  recommendations  about  the  future.    When  will  the 
study  be  completed,  and  will  it  be  shared  with  the 
legislature? 

MS.  CHENG:    Senator,  yes.    I  have  asked  UCLA 
and  the  Rand  Corporation,  which  has  a  public  policy 
program,  to  devote  its  energies  to  studying  the 
massive  amount  of  data  we  have  collected  at  the 
department.   Just  in  the  12  years,  we  have  almost  a 
quarter  million  cases  that  have  come  through  us. 
And,  of  course,  the  purpose  of  the  study  is  to  assess 
how  far  the  law  has  come,  what  it  has  achieved,  how 

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1  objective,  necessarily,  here,  as  the  person  that 

2  leads  the  agency,  but  if  you  can  give  us  your 

3  perception  whether  or  not  practitioners  and  others 

4  feel  the  DFEH  is  still  kind  of  a  mill,  a  passageway 

5  where  you  have  to  go  through  in  order  to  get  to 

6  court,  or  whether  or  not  you  really  are  able 

7  resource-wise  or  otherwise  to  grapple 

8  administratively  to  resolve  issues  of  discrimination. 

9  MS.  CHENG:    Senator,  the  statute,  the  Fair 

10  Employment  and  Housing  Act,  provides  that  all 

11  employment  complainants  must  exhaust  their 

12  administrative  remedies  through  the  department,  and 

13  that  is  the  reason  why  all  the  complaints  come  to  us. 

14  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    I  know  that. 

15  MS.  CHENG:    Partly  because  of  the  success  of 

16  the  work  of  the  department  in  prosecuting  these  cases 

17  both  before  the  administrative  body,  which  is  the 

18  Fair  Employment  and  Housing  Commission,  and  in  civil 

19  court.   We  have  really  developed  the  law  in  such  a 

20  fashion  that  today,  as  compared  to  when  we  first 

21  started,  the  employment  bar  is  gigantic.   There's  a 

22  huge  professional  corps  of  attorneys  doing  this  work 

23  both  on  the  plaintiff's  as  well  as  on  the  defense 

24  side. 

25  So,  naturally,  because  there  is  a  very 

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it  can  perform  even  better,  and  which  direction  it 
may  go  in  the  future.    And,  yes,  I  will  make  every 
effort  when  that  report  is  done,  hopefully  by  the  end 
of  the  year,  end  of  2009,  to  make  that  available  to 
all  policymakers  and  all  stakeholders  and  put  that  on 
our  Web  site.    And,  hopefully,  that  will  be  an 
important  document  in  the  future  for  shaping  the 
future  of  the  Fair  Employment  and  Housing  Act. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    All  right.   Thank  you. 

The  other  question  is  this:    I  noted  in  the 
background  file  here  that  of  the  almost  20,000 
complaints  filed  last  year,  that  for  almost  half  of 
them,  9,300,  a  so-called  right-to-sue  letter  was 
issued  right  away  without  there  being  any 
investigation.    And  it  kind  of  harkens  back,  because 
I'm  a  former  practitioner  before  your  agency  when  I 
used  to  do  labor  law,  and  the  reputation  15,  20  years 
ago  of  the  DFEH  was  the  following:    Good  people, 
understaffed,  under-resourced,  and,  frankly,  a  bit  of 
a  mill.    You  know,  you  file  your  complaint,  you've 
got  to  go  through  the  administrative  --  you  know, 
you've  got  to  go  through  the  administrative  process; 
but  what  you're  really  looking  for  is  your  ticket  to 
go  to  court  to  file  a  discrimination  suit. 

And  I'm  wondering  --  I  know  you're  not 

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1  sophisticated  bar,  you're  going  to  get  a  lot  of  people 

2  who  are  going  to  be  approaching  attorneys  who  are 

3  well-qualified  and  who  advise  them  to  come  and  seek  a 

4  right-to-sue  letter  right  away,  because  they  don't 

5  intend  to  stay  in  the  administrative  system.   That  is 

6  why  we've  seen  a  growth  in  the  number  of  right-to-sue 

7  requests,  and  that  is  why  we  responded  to  that  by 

8  creating  an  automated  system. 

9  Now,  half  of  the  other  cases  still  stay  in  our 

10  system.    So  of  the  other  10,000  or  so  cases  that  stay, 

11  some  people  will  stay  long  enough  to  get  the 

12  investigative  evidence  and  then  leave  the  system.   We 

13  take  care  of  the  rest  of  these  cases.   About  one-third 

14  of  the  cases  will  generally  not  have  sufficient 

15  evidence,  but  of  the  remaining  ones,  we  actually 

16  prosecute  those  cases  very  effectively  --  that's  still 

17  over  2,000  cases  --  and  we  settle  the  vast  majority  of 

18  them,  and  we  also  prosecute  them.    And  through  our 

19  prosecution,  we've  reached  very  large  judgments  and 

20  settlements  and  --  that  are  very  satisfactory  to  both 

21  the  complainants  involved  as  well  as  to  the  respondents, 

22  the  businesses  and  landlords  and  employers,  because  it 

23  would  have  cost  so  much  more  had  they  been  in  court. 

24  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    How  many  successful 

25  prosecutions  a  year,  on  average? 

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1  MS.  CHENG:    Well,  out  of  about  100 

2  accusations  issued,  I  would  say  95  percent  or  more. 

3  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    So  it's  a  hundred.    A 

4  hundred  is  the  base  out  of  the  20,000  that  go  from  an 

5  initial  complaint  to  accusation? 

6  MS.  CHENG:   Yes,  because  we  resolve  nearly 

7  2,000  of  them. 

8  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    I  understand. 

9  Last  question.   What  is  the  average  caseload  of 

10  your  discrimination  investigators? 

11  MS.  CHENG:    I  believe  the  average  caseload 

12  varies,  depending  on  whether  they  do  housing  or 

13  employment  cases,  but  I  would  say  about  75  to 

14  80  cases  would  be  the  average  caseload  for  our 

15  consultants  who  are  often  investigators. 

16  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    And  is  that  --  I  mean, 

17  think  about  different  ratios  to  maybe  completely 

18  inapplicable  —  class-size  reduction,  social-worker- 

19  to-child  ratios.   What  kind  of  workload  is  that  for 

20  analysts?   Can  they  spend  the  amount  of  time  that 

21  gives  you  the  confidence  that  they  can  be  thorough 

22  with  caseloads  of  65,  70,  75  cases? 

23  MS.  CHENG:    Senator,  and  that  is  why  we  are 

24  now  creating  a  new  system  of  processing  the  cases 

25  which  we're  putting  in  place  —  it's  called  a 

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1  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Can  you  introduce 

2  yourself  for  the  record. 

3  THE  WITNESS:    Oh,  yes.    I'm  sorry. 

4  I'm  Mike  Feuer.    I  represent  the  42nd 

5  Assembly  District. 

6  This  marvelous,  wide-ranging  background,  pretty 

7  much  having  done  anything  that  might  be  relevant  to  this 

8  role,  and  she's  done  it  all  with  great  distinction,  and 

9  it's  no  surprise  that  her  role  at  the  department  has 

10  continued  to  exemplify  the  kind  of  leadership  that  all 

11  of  us  want  there,  firm,  reform-minded,  steady,  balanced 

12  leadership  designed  to  be  cost  effective,  and,  most 

13  importantly,  from  the  standpoint  of  workers,  very 

14  responsive.    So  I'm  delighted  to  be  here  and  to  lend  my 

15  voice  in  support  for  a  candidate  who  undoubtedly  can 

16  look  at  the  total  picture  for  the  committee.   Thank  you 

17  very  much. 

18  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you  very  much, 

19  Mike.   We  appreciate  it. 

20  Other  witnesses  in  support? 

21  By  the  way,  Ms.  Cheng,  is  there  any  member 

22  of  your  family  that  you  want  to  introduce,  or  anybody 

23  special  --  anybody  that  you  would  like  to  introduce? 

24  MS.  CHENG:    Thank  you,  Senator.   They're 

25  either  at  school  or  busy  with  other  things. 

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case-grading  system  —  so  we  can  see  at  the  outset 
how  complex  the  cases  are  and  what  kind  of  time  is 
required  for  the  investigation  so  that  the  more 
complex  cases  will  be  assigned  to  more  experienced 
consultants  for  investigation.    We  anticipate  them  to 
take  more  time.    We'll  have  attorneys  working  with 
them  at  the  outset. 

And  for  the  cases  which  are  more  simple  and 
straightforward,  we  would  assign  to  our  more  junior 
consultants  so  that  all  the  cases  are  dealt  with  in  a 
manner  that  receives  resources  they  deserve. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Okay.   Thank  you  very 
much.    I  just  wanted  to  make  sure  that  you  are 
leading  an  agency  that  has  the  capacity,  if  you  will, 
to  do  all  that  the  statute  charges  the  agency  with 
doing,  and  it  keeps  people  out  of  court. 

Anyway,  witnesses  in  support?   Very  briefly. 

Mr.  Feuer,  welcome. 

MR.  FEUER:    Thank  you  very  much, 
Mr.  Chairman,  Mr.  President,  members  of  the 
Committee. 

I  can  tell  in  a  moment  where  brevity  is  all 
but  necessary  here,  but  let  me  just  underscore  my 
constituent,  Ms.  Cheng. 

As  you've  heard,  this  marvelous  -- 

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1  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    I  just  wanted  to  make 

2  sure  you  had  the  opportunity. 

3  MS.  MALANA:    Senator  Steinberg  and 

4  distinguished  members  of  the  Senate  Rules  Committee, 

5  my  name  is  Jerri  Malana,  and  I'm  a  partner  with  the 

6  law  firm  of  Littler  Mendelson  in  our  San  Diego 

7  office,  and  I'm  here  with  other  partners, 

8  Garry  Mathiason  and  Bruce  Sarchet. 

9  Littler  Mendelson  has  over  760  lawyers 

10  nationwide,  and  in  California  we  have  over  240 

11  attorneys.   And  we're  the  largest  law  firm  in  the 

12  world  devoted  to  representing  management  in 

13  employment  and  labor  law  matters. 

14  And  Littler  Mendelson  proudly  supports 

15  Phyllis  Cheng's  confirmation  as  director  of  the 

16  Department  of  Fair  Employment  and  Housing.    She  is 

17  well-qualified  to  be  the  director.   You  heard  already 

18  that  she  has  a  balanced  background.    She  has  the 

19  employer/management  side  background.    She  was  a 

20  valued  colleague  in  our  Los  Angeles  office.    Phyllis 

21  was  an  attorney  in  our  L.A.  office.    She  also  has  the 

22  employee  side,  as  in  her  work  experience  she  formerly 

23  worked  as  a  plaintiffs  attorney  for  the  esteemed 

24  law  firm  of  Hadsell  &  Stormer.    So  she  has  that 

25  background. 

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She's  also  worked  as  a  neutral.    Ms.  Cheng 
has  worked  as  a  certified  arbitrator,  as  well  as  a 
certified  mediator.    She  also  has  public-sector 
experience  along  with  her  private-sector  experience. 
You've  also  heard  that  she's  worked  as  judge  pro  tern 
in  Los  Angeles  County  Municipal  Court,  and  she's  also 
served  as  a  senior  appellate  court  attorney  for  a 
Court  of  Appeal. 

In  addition  to  her  job,  she  also  gives  back 
to  the  legal  profession  by  being  active  with  the 
State  Bar  of  California.    She  served  on  the  committee 
of  bar  examiners,  as  well  as  the  executive  committees 
for  the  labor  and  employment  law  section  as  well  the 
public  law  section. 

We've  heard  about  her  scholars  --  and  I  know 
time  is  brief. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Please. 

MS.  MALANA:    I  wanted  to,  on  a  personal 
note,  let  you  know  that  along  with  my  role  as  an 
attorney  at  Littler,  I  also  am  the  president  of  the 
San  Diego  County  Bar  Association.   We  are  the  largest 
legal-  related  organization  in  the  region,  with  over 
10,000  members,  and  Ms.  Cheng  has  come  to  San  Diego 
and  addressed  our  labor  and  employment  section  and 
our  members  with  regard  to  the  initiatives  and 

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1  employees  in  discrimination  and  other  cases. 

2  I'm  here  to  enthusiastically  support  Phyllis 

3  Cheng  as  director  of  the  Department  of  Fair 

4  Employment  and  Housing.    She's  smart,  she's 

5  hardworking,  she's  very  productive.    I've  known  her 

6  for  six  years  or  so.   We  served  together  on  the 

7  executive  committee  of  the  state  bar's  labor  and 

8  employment  law  section  when  she  was  editor-in-chief 

9  of  the  Law  Review.    She  did  a  great  job  on  that.   She 

10  still  sends  out  case  alerts  about  all  the  newly 

11  decided  appellate  cases  in  California  --  a  couple 

12  times  a  day  they  come  out  —  as  continuing  her 

13  volunteer  work. 

14  The  automated  right-to-sue-letter  system 

15  that  she  set  up  helped  very  much.   The  lawyers  do 

16  want  to  just  get  an  immediate  right-to-sue  letter  and 

17  go  to  court.    It  allows  you  to  keep  control  of 

18  everything.    It  saves  them  time.    And  her  idea  of 

19  doing,  basically,  a  case-triage  system  where  she 

20  divides  cases  into  ones  that  need  a  more  thorough 

21  investigation  versus  ones  that  need  fewer  is  a  good 

22  step  forward  in  efficiency  for  the  department.    We 

23  support  her  wholeheartedly. 

24  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you. 

25  MR.  HOROWITZ:    Thank  you.  Good  luck. 

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mission  of  the  Department  of  Fair  Employment  and 
Housing,  and  we  were  pleased  to  have  her  in 
San  Diego. 

And  I  was  also  pleased  to  have  her  support 
at  my  own  personal  swearing  in  as  president,  because 
I'm  the  first  Asian  Pacific-American  attorney  to  hold 
the  position  in  110  years  in  San  Diego,  and  it  goes 
to  show  that  Ms.  Cheng  also  supports  and  mentors 
others  in  the  community  and  is  dedicated  to 
increasing  diversity  and  inclusion  in  our  profession. 
So  on  a  personal  note,  I  wanted  to  be  here. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you  very  much  for 
your  testimony,  and  congratulations  to  you  on  your 
honors. 

MS.  MALANA:    Terrific.   And,  again,  Littler 
Mendelson  proudly  supports  Phyllis  Cheng's 
confirmation.   Thank  you. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you. 

Next  witness.   Again,  if  you  could  be  very 
brief. 

MR.  HOROWITZ:    I  will,  of  course,  Senator. 

Good  afternoon,  Senators.    I'm  Phil 
Horowitz.    I'm  here  on  behalf  of  the  California 
Employment  Lawyers  Association,  which  is  a  statewide 
association  of  more  then  850  lawyers  who  represent 

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1  MS.  PEREZ:    Good  afternoon,  Senators.    My 

2  name  is  Patti  Perez,  and  I'm  an  employment  attorney 

3  in  San  Diego.    I'm  also  a  newly  appointed  member  of 

4  the  Fair  Employment  and  Housing  Commission  and  am 

5  proud  to  be  working  with  Phyllis  as  a  commissioner. 

6  I'm  here,  however,  representing  the  section 

7  of  --  the  labor  and  employment  law  section  of  the 

8  California  State  Bar,  as  I  serve  as  vice  chair  on 

9  that  committee.    Phyllis  and  I  serve  together  on  that 

10  committee,  and,  as  Phyllis  mentioned  briefly,  she  did 

11  outstanding  work  on  that  committee  on  behalf  of  our 

12  6,000-plus  members  that  represent  the  entire  gamut  of 

13  employment  attorneys. 

14  We  recently  did  a  membership  survey,  and  the 

15  top  two  benefits  that  our  members  found  to  be  of  most 

16  value  were  the  Law  Review,  which  I  can  proudly  say 

17  that  Phyllis  was  the  primary  reason  for  its  wonderful 

18  quality,  and  the  second  was  specifically  Phyllis's 

19  e-alerts.   That's  how  we  refer  to  them.    So  it  is 

20  something  that  all  of  our  members  have  benefited 

21  from,  and  these  are  members  or  attorneys  who  are  key 

22  constituents  to  the  Department  of  Fair  Employment  and 

23  Housing. 

24  One  of  the  points  I  thought  was  really 

25  relevant  or  really  important  that  I've  heard  a  lot  of 

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1     our  members  talk  about  is  that  Phyllis  has  brought 

1 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Okay.   Thank  you. 

2     relevance  back  to  the  DFEH,  and  I  think  that's  very 

2 

MS.  PEARLMAN:    So  she's  fabulous.   Thank  you 

3     important. 

3 

very  much. 

4                    CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Thank  you  very  much. 

4 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you  very  much. 

5                    SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Excuse  me.    May  I  ask  you 

5 

Are  there  any  witnesses  in  opposition  to  the  nominee? 

6     do  you  represent  employers  or  employees? 

6 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    I'll  move  the  vote  in 

7                    MS.  PEREZ:    I  actually  have  a  consulting 

7 

support. 

8     company,  so  I  do  neutral  work. 

8 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Moved. 

9                    MS.  PEARLMAN:    I  promise  I'll  be  brief,  but 

9 

It's  obvious  that  you  are  well-respected, 

10     I  have  to  tell  you  this  is  — 

10 

well-regarded,  and  well-liked,  and  I  am  pleased  to 

11                    CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Your  name  first. 

11 

support  your  confirmation.   The  only  thing  I  ask  is 

12                    MS.  PEARLMAN:    Paula  Pearlman,  dear  friend 

12 

that  you  come  to  us  if  you  feel  the  agency  does  not 

13     of  Phyllis.    I'm  also  the  executive  director  of  the 

13 

have  sufficient  capacity  or  resources  to  be  able  to 

14     Disability  Rights  Legal  Center,  so  I'm  really 

14 

genuinely  protect  people  from  discrimination,  because 

15     bringing  diversity  to  this  table  as  well,  to  this 

15 

we  like  to  believe  we  have  made  great  advances,  and 

16     esteemed  body,  so  thank  you  very  much. 

16 

we  have,  but  we  know  that  we  still  have  a  long  way  to 

17                    Phyllis  has  all  the  qualities  you  want, 

17 

go,  and  I  want  to  make  sure  that  this  agency  is 

18     e-mails  at  two  in  the  morning  on  the  e-alert 

18 

really  working  on  behalf  of  the  people  who  are  such 

19     responding  to  mine,  because  we  both  became  executive 

19 

victims. 

20     directors  — 

20 

Please  call  the  roll  on  the  nominee. 

21                     CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    And  that's  a  good 

21 

MS.  BROWN:    Senator  Cedillo. 

22     thing? 

22 

SENATOR  CEDILLO:    Aye. 

23                    MS.  PEARLMAN:    It's  fabulous.    I  know,  of 

23 

MS.  BROWN:    Cedillo  aye. 

24     course,  you  want  your  public  servants  and  your 

24 

Dutton. 

25     nonprofit  lawyers  to  be  working  efficiently.    We  take 

25 

SENATOR  DUTTON:    Aye. 

20 

22 

1     time  off.    Phyllis  has  a  wonderful  family.    I  can 

1 

MS.  BROWN:    Aye. 

2     speak  on  their  behalf.    Maxwell  is  her  son  who  has 

2 

Oropeza. 

3     autism,  and  he  volunteers  for  me,  and  he  has  for  the 

3 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Aye. 

4     past  year,  and  I  just  brought  him  into  a  grant  so  I 

4 

MS.  BROWN:    Oropeza  aye. 

5     can  pay  him  and  not  be  a  volunteer.   And  her  daughter 

5 

Aanestad. 

6     and  — 

6 

SENATOR  AANESTAD:    Aye. 

7                    We  gave  a  reception  for  Phyllis,  and  those 

7 

MS.  BROWN:    Aanestad  aye. 

8     kids  showed  up.   And  they  love  their  mom.    So  even 

8 

Steinberg. 

9     though  she's  busy  at  two  in  the  morning,  they  know 

9 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Aye. 

10     that.    Her  family  comes  first,  so  don't  worry  about 

10 

MS.  BROWN:    Steinberg  aye. 

11     our  personal  lives. 

11 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you  very  much. 

12                     CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    All  right.    I'm  not.    I 

12 

Your  nomination  will  go  to  the  floor  of  the  state 

13     promise. 

13 

Senate.    I  believe  we  take  it  up  -- 

14                    MS.  PEARLMAN:    Really,  it's  a  privilege  to 

14 

MS.  SABELHAUS:    Next  week. 

15     be  here.   There's  unemployment  with  people  with 

15 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Next  week. 

16     disabilities  at  an  all-time  high.   The  accessible 

16 

MS.  CHENG:    Thank  you  very  much,  Senator. 

17     housing  stock  is  diminishing  due  to  loopholes  and  new 

17 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you  very  much. 

18     construction  rules  and  accessibility  statutes,  and 

18 

Senator  Aandestad,  my  fault.    We  had  a 

19     the  DFEH  is  an  essential  institution  for  people  with 

19 

little  time  mix-up  here,  so  we  want  to  lift  the  call 

20     disabilities. 

20 

on  the  reference  bills  here. 

21                    We  have  an  options  counseling  line,  over 

21 

SENATOR  AANESTAD:    Okay. 

22     7,000  calls  a  year.    We  refer  people  to  the 

22 

MS.  BROWN:    Senator  Cedillo. 

23     Department  of  Fair  Employment  and  Housing  who  have 

23 

SENATOR  CEDILLO:    Aye. 

24     both  employment  and  housing  discrimination  cases 

24 

MS.  BROWN:    Cedillo  aye. 

25     related  to  their  disability.    She's  — 

25 

Aanestad. 

21 

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1  SENATOR  AANESTAD:    Aye. 

2  MS.  BROWN:    Aanestad  aye. 

3  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Very  good.   That 

4  measure  passes. 

5  Why  don't  we  take  number  two  here  before  we 

6  go  to  the  next  nominee.    I  understand  Senator 

7  Aanestad  has  something  to  raise  before  we  take  a 

8  motion  on  the  standing  rules  of  the  Committee  --  the 

9  standing  rules  of  the  Senate.    Excuse  me. 

0  (Discussion  off  the  record.) 

1  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    All  right.   Very  good. 

2  Next  we  want  to  call  up  Cynthia  Flores,  who 

3  has  been  appointed  as  a  member  of  the  California 

4  Lottery  Commission,  and  I  want  to  welcome  our 

5  colleague,  Senator  Denise  Ducheny,  to  introduce  her. 

6  SENATOR  DUCHENY:   Thank  you  very  much. 

7  Mr.  Chairman  and  members,  I  just  wanted  to 
B  take  the  opportunity  to  introduce  one  of  our 

9  residents  of  the  Coachella  Valley,  Cynthia  Flores, 

Q  who  has  been  a  member  of  the  lottery  commission  since 

1  last  March,  so  almost  a  year  now. 

2  She  is  a  dean  of  students,  associate  dean, 

3  at  Cal  State  University  San  Bernardino  at  the 

X  Palm  Desert  campus,  and  I've  known  her  prior  to  that 

5  where  she  also  served  on  the  Imperial  Valley  campus 

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1  negatively  to. 

2  Having  those  committees,  having  a  full 

3  commission  who  can  then  engage  in  that  appropriate 

4  oversight  can  push  the  staff  to  give  them  the 

5  appropriate  information  when  they  seem  reluctant  to 

6  do  so. 

7  We  hope  they're  listening.   You  know,  it's 

8  something  that  would  help  us  all  on  the  budget 

9  committees  and  on  the  other  issues  with  the  lottery, 

10  and  so  —  particularly  for  that  leadership  on  the 

11  audit  committee  —  in  the  hope  that  somebody  with  a 

12  little  experience  now  can  help  keep  that  program  back 

13  on  line  as  we  try  to  seek  increased  revenues  and 

14  dedicate  --  ensure  that  our  education  systems  get 

15  what  they're  entitled  to  out  of  that  system. 

16  I  recommend  to  you  and  am  happy  to  be  here 

17  to  introduce  Cynthia  Flores. 

18  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you  very  much, 

19  Senator  Ducheny. 

20  Ms.  Flores,  welcome. 

21  MS.  FLORES:    Thank  you. 

22  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Would  you  like  to  make 

23  a  brief  statement? 

24  MS.  FLORES:    Sure. 

25  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Or  you  don't  have  to. 

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of  San  Diego  State. 

And  for  reasons  that  are  still  a  mystery  to 
me,  she  chose  to  apply  for  this  job,  but  I  think  what 
she's  been  doing  there  has  been  positive.    I  think 
her  interest  actually  stems  from  the  side  that  gets 
money,  which  are  the  universities  and  the  schools, 
and  trying  to  make  sure  that  the  lottery  is  as 
effective  as  it  can  be  in  producing  some  income  to 
those  institutions  and  to  education. 

She's  been  concerned  about  the  integrity  and 
the  fairness  and  the  security  of  the  system,  and  she 
has  been  --  and  her  most  interesting  accomplishment, 
I  think  over  the  year,  that  I  want  to  point  out  to 
the  Committee,  as  the  Committee  views  others,  and  I 
know  there  was  a  discussion  last  year  and  a  lot  of 
you  will  remember  some  of  the  controversy  around  the 
problem  with  the  lottery  and  how  they  were  spending 
their  money,  and  Ms.  Flores  was  a  leader  in  promoting 
an  audit  committee  for  the  commission. 

We  encourage  you  to  help  encourage  the 
governor  to  make  sure  we  actually  get  a  full  lottery 
commission,  because  the  public  oversight,  like 
Cynthia,  is  what  can  keep  the  directors  and  the 
systems  from  doing  some  of  the  things  we  saw  last 
year  that  so  many  of  us  and  the  public  reacted 

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1  MS.  FLORES:    Nice  and  brief. 

2  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    You're  welcome  to. 

3  MS.  FLORES:    Good  afternoon.    I'm  Cynthia 

4  Flores.    I  have  the  honor  of  serving  on  the  lottery 

5  commission  for  nearly  one  year  now.   You  need  me. 

6  You  need  me  in  this  position.   You  need  me,  quite 

7  frankly,  because  you  need  an  educator  as  a 

8  commissioner  on  the  lottery  commission.    It  only 

9  makes  logical  sense  to  have  an  educator  there. 

10  I  come  with  32  years  as  a  member  of  the 

11  California  State  University  system.    I've  also  served 

12  in  the  community  college  system  for  seven  years.    I 

13  was  a  high-school  trustee,  board  member,  earned  my 

14  dues.   So  I  feel  that  I  represent  different  segments 

15  in  education.   And  I  come  here  for  one  simple  reason: 

16  To  try  to  increase  revenues  for  the  lottery. 

17  When  I  left  the  commission  meeting  this 

18  morning,  which  I  just  came  out  of  right  now,  I  saw 

19  the  individual  that  represents  the  California 

20  Teachers  Association,  and  we  spoke.   And  she  said, 

21  you  know,  "We're  going  to  lose  25,000  new  teachers 

22  next  year."  Twenty-five  thousand.    She  said,  "Our 

23  classroom  size  from  grades  one  through  five  is  going 

24  up  to  35."   She  said,  "We  can't  afford  to  lose  one 

25  penny  in  revenue  that  comes  to  education." 

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1  And,  yes,  lottery  seems  to  have,  to  the 

2  public,  this  magic  big  number,  but  it  doesn't.   What 

3  it  translates  to  is  a  very  small  number,  about  $145  a 

4  student.    But  yet  that  money  can  be  used  for  upgrades 

5  in  technology,  et  cetera,  that's  much  needed.   So  we 

6  can't  afford  to  lose  anything  in  education.    So  I'm 

7  here  to  tell  you,  you  need  me,  and  I  hope  you'll  have 

8  me.   And  I'm  here  to  answer  any  questions  that  you 

9  might  have. 

10  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you  very  much. 

11  I'd  like  to  begin  very  briefly  by  —  I'll 

12  tell  you  the  number  one  thing  on  my  mind  when  it 

13  comes  to  the  lottery,  and  that  is  whether  or  not  if 

14  the  voters  approve  the  securitization  measure  that 

15  will  be  on  some  battle  in  the  future  that  the 

16  legislature  approved  as  part  of  last  year's  budget 

17  solution,  will  we  in  fact  —  Are  you  confident  or  do 

18  you  know  whether  or  not  we  will  in  fact  have  the 

19  potential  to  realize  the  five  billion  dollars  or  so 

20  that  is  plugged  into  the  budget? 

21  The  reason  why  --  I  know  you're  not  a 

22  securities  expert  — 

23  MS.  FLORES:    Thank  you,  because  I'm  not. 

24  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    --  or  a  bonds  expert, 

25  but  part  of  the  success  depends  on  whether  we  are 

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1  will  this  affect  education?   Because  that's  what  I'm 

2  concerned  about.  That's  truly  what  I'm  most  concerned 

3  about.    So  that  was  the  question  placed  to  me  this 

4  morning.    So  it's  my  understanding  that  the  base  will 

5  slightly  increase  for  education  under  this  plan,  so  I'm 

6  here  to  say  that. 

7  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    I  understand  it's  not 

8  your  expertise.   What  I  really  want  to  know  is 

9  whether  or  not  —  Is  there  any  buzz  about  this  over 

10  at  the  lottery? 

11  MS.  FLORES:    Oh,  yes. 

12  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    In  other  words,  are 

13  people  talking  about  this,  working  on  it,  figuring 

14  out  how  do  we  get  the  whole  five  billion,  or  is  it 

15  something  that  you're  leaving  to  the  Department  of 

16  Finance  and  others?  Is  there  a  lot  of  talk  about  it? 

17  MS.  FLORES:    Okay.   On  the  --  Assembly  Bill 

18  1654,  the  idea  there  is  that  we're  going  to  try  and 

19  increase  our  revenues,  and  we're  going  to  increase 

20  our  revenues  by  trying  to  find  out  what  can  we  do  to 

21  improve  what  we  presently  do. 

22  For  example,  we  have  certain  restrictions  that 

23  are  facing  us  now  in  the  lottery.    With  AB  1654,  some  of 

24  these  restrictions  come  off,  and  we  have  the  ability  to 

25  generate  more  funding.   That's  the  part  that  is  most 

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1  marketing  the  lottery  in  the  most  appropriate, 

2  aggressive  ways.   You  know,  what's  your  sense  of  that 

3  very  critical  issue  facing  the  legislature? 

4  MS.  FLORES:   This  morning  when  I  was  in 

5  Senator  Aanestad's  office,  a  similar  question  came  to 

6  me,  so  I  went  to  do  my  research  as  fast  as  possible. 

7  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Good,  good. 

8  MS.  FLORES:    But  it's  my  understanding  that 

9  if  this  were  to  pass  at  some  future  time  by  the 

10  California  voters,  that  the  California  State  Lottery 

11  Commission  would  securitize  our  future  profits,  and 

12  that  would  mean  that  the  State  would  issue  bonds  that 

13  would  be  backed  by  the  lottery  proceeds,  and  then 

14  it's  estimated,  what  you  said,  that  in  '09-'10,  we 

15  would  have  approximately  —  bond  sales  that  would  be 

16  approximately  five  billion,  and  the  following  year 

17  another  five  billion. 

18  Now,  this  proposal  would  establish  what's 

19  been  termed  the  debt  retirement  fund,  and,  no,  I'm 

20  not  a  securities  expert.   That's  why  I'm  reading  a 

21  little  bit  here.    But  these  moneys  could  go  to  the 

22  general  fund,  and  then  they  could  be  used  for 

23  whatever  purpose. 

24  Now,  what  I  did  was  I  asked  the  question  that 

25  was  asked  of  me  earlier  this  morning.    Will  this  —  How 

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1  important  to  us  at  the  Lottery.    Yes,  that's  generating 

2  tremendous  buzz. 

3  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Okay.    Thank  you. 

4  Other  questions? 

5  Witnesses? 

6  SENATOR  AANESTAD:    I  just  have  a  question 

7  that  I  wanted  to  ask  this  morning,  but  I'd  forgotten, 

8  and  I  don't  even  know  if  you  can  answer.    But  I  know 

9  that  the  meeting  this  morning  was  out  at  the  new 

10  site,  talking  about  the  new  150,000-square-foot 

11  building  that  Lottery  is  building,  and  the  first 

12  thing  that  came  to  mind  was:    In  these  economic  times 

13  with  the  State  being  in  the  position  it  is  with  all 

14  kinds  of  vacant  office  space  available,  why  is  the 

15  lottery  commission  going  ahead  with  the  building  of  a 

16  very  expensive  --  in  fact,  if  you  can  tell  us  the 

17  cost.    I  don't  even  know  what  the  cost  is.    Somebody 

18  told  me  it's  many  millions  of  dollars.    Why  do  we 

19  need  a  brand  new  building  for  the  lottery? 

20  MS.  FLORES:    Yes.    Thank  you  for  your 

21  question. 

22  I'm  charged,  as  a  commissioner,  to  protect 

23  the  employees  of  the  lottery,  so  I  take  that  very 

24  seriously.    We  have  approximately  300  in  our 

25  headquarters.    Right  now,  the  building  that  we  have 

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has  a  sinking  foundation,  number  one. 

Number  two,  it's  not  seismic  compliant. 

Number  three,  it's  not  fire  compliant,  and 
it  is  not  ADA  compatible. 

We  are  taking  samples  —  and  as  I  walk 
through  the  building,  I  have  to  go  from  office  to 
office  many  times,  because  they're  taking  air  samples 
for  molds. 

So  the  building  is  deteriorating.    It  —  We 
own  the  land.    It  is  much  more  efficient  for  us  to 
build  a  new  building.    We  have  done  analyses  and 
studies  regarding  this. 

This  morning  we  did  --  we  passed  what  we 
call  the  mitigation  negative  report,  the 
environmental  study  to  look  at  the  situation.   And 
so  --  We  support  this  measure.   We  believe  that  we 
are  going  to  save  millions  of  dollars,  and  we  are 
going  to  provide  900  new  jobs.    We  also  help  the 
rivers  --  the  Sacramento  River  build-up  plan.    I'm  a 
Southern  California  girl,  so  you're  going  to  have  to 
excuse  me.    I  don't  know  what  this  part  --  the  river 
district,  upgrade  that.    So  I  think  it's  important. 
Yes,  I  understand  that. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    All  right.   Thank  you. 

Other  questions?   Witnesses  in  support? 

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1  Deidra  Lowe,  member  of  the  Workers'  Comp 

2  Appeals  Board.    Welcome. 

3  MS.  LOWE:   Thank  you. 

4  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Before  we  get  started, 

5  we're  going  to  go  off  calendar  just  for  a  minute, 

6  because  a  gentleman  just  walked  in  the  room. 

7  (Discussion  off  the  record.) 

8  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Okay.    Last  but 

9  certainly  not  least  we  have  Ms.  Lowe,  who's  up  for 

10  appointment  as  a  member  of  the  Workers'  Compensation 

11  Appeals  Board. 

12  Welcome. 

13  MS.  LOWE:    Thank  you,  Chairman. 

14  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Please. 

15  MS.  LOWE:    Chairman  Steinberg,  Vice 

16  Chairman  Aanestad,  and  members  of  the  Committee,  I'm 

17  very  pleased  to  be  here  this  afternoon  and  would  like 

18  to  thank  you  for  this  opportunity  to  appear  before 

19  the  Committee. 

20  It's  kind  of  fitting  that  my  confirmation 

21  hearing  should  be  held  here  in  Sacramento  this  month, 

22  because  it  was  here  in  Sacramento  30  years  ago  that  I 

23  began  in  the  field  of  workers'  compensation,  joining 

24  the  well-known  and  very  successful  firm  of  Green  & 

25  Azevedo,  representing  injured  workers. 

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Witnesses  in  opposition? 

Senator  Oropeza  — 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Move. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    -  makes  the  motion. 

Happy  to  support  the  nomination.   Thank  you 
very  much. 

MS.  FLORES:   Thank  you  for  your  time. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Call  the  roll. 

MS.  BROWN:    Senator  Cedillo. 

SENATOR  CEDILLO:    Aye. 

MS.  BROWN:    Cedillo  aye. 

Dutton. 

SENATOR  DUTTON:    Aye. 

MS.  BROWN:    Dutton  aye. 

Oropeza. 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Aye. 

MS.  BROWN:    Oropeza  aye. 

Aanestad. 

SENATOR  AANESTAD:    Aye. 

MS.  BROWN:    Aanestad  aye. 

Steinberg. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Aye. 

MS.  BROWN:    Steinberg  aye. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you  very  much, 
Ms.  Flores.   This  will  go  to  the  floor. 

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1  Over  the  next  30  years,  I've  been  a 

2  practicing  attorney  in  this  area  of  law,  and  I've  had 

3  the  privilege  and  pleasure  of  representing  both 

4  injured  workers  and  employers  and  carriers. 

5  Because  I  devoted  my  professional  career  to 

6  this  field  of  law,  I  was  extremely  honored  and 

7  delighted  to  have  been  appointed  to  the  Workers' 

8  Compensation  Appeals  Board.   That  board  is  vested 

9  with  all  the  judicial  powers  concerning  the  workers' 

10  compensation  system.    Serving  on  the  board  provides 

11  me  with  an  opportunity  not  only  to  use  my  many  years 

12  of  experience,  but  also,  and  more  importantly,  to 

13  serve  the  workers'  compensation  community  and  the 

14  people  of  the  state  of  California. 

15  During  my  short  time  on  the  board,  I  have  found 

16  the  work  to  be  extremely  rewarding  and  challenging,  and 

17  I  would  very  much  like  to  continue  serving  on  the  board. 

18  For  this  reason,  I'm  asking  that  the  Senate  confirm  my 

19  appointment. 

20  I'd  like  to  thank  you  for  your 

21  consideration,  and  I'll  be  happy  to  take  any 

22  questions  you  might  have. 

23  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you  very  much. 

24  Are  there  questions  from  the  members? 

25  I  have  one  or  two,  and  that  is,  really,  to 

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1  seek  your  assessment  of  the  SB  899  reforms,  which,  I 

2  think  it's  fair  to  say,  continue  to  be  controversial. 

3  Your  view  of  the  positive  of  those  reforms 

4  and  maybe  any  concerns,  or  what  you  think  have  been 

5  negative  consequences  of  the  reforms. 

6  MS.  LOWE:    Overall  in  my  experience  as  a 

7  practicing  attorney  for  just  a  few  years  after  SB  899 

8  was  passed,  and  as  a  commissioner  for  almost  a  year 

9  now,  I  would  say  that  for  the  most  part  the  reforms 

10  are  working  as  intended.   And  it's  my  understanding 

11  that  the  system  as  a  whole  is  functioning  very 

12  efficiently. 

13  I  think  upwards  of  90  percent  of  injured 

14  workers  do  not  even  have  litigated  cases.   Most  of 

15  the  cases  are  resolved  on  an  informal-settlement-type 

16  basis.   All  settlements  do  have  to  go  through  the 

17  Workers'  Compensation  Appeals  Board  and  be  approved 

18  by  a  judge,  so  they  all  do  get  seen  by  a  judge  for 

19  the  final  disposition  of  the  case.    But  overall,  I 

20  feel  the  benefit  delivery  system  has  worked  well. 

21  Medical  care  has  improved;  I  think  return-to-work  has 

22  improved. 

23  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    You  are  a  fine  nominee, 

24  and  I  intend  to  support  your  nomination. 

25  MS.  LOWE:    Thank  you,  Senator. 

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1  MS.  BROWN:    Senator  Cedillo. 

2  SENATOR  CEDILLO:    Aye. 

3  MS.  BROWN:    Cedillo  aye. 

4  Dutton. 

5  SENATOR  DUTTON:    Aye. 

6  MS.  BROWN:    Dutton  aye. 

7  Oropeza. 

8  SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Aye. 

9  MS.  BROWN:    Oropeza  aye. 

10  Aanestad. 

11  SENATOR  AANESTAD:    Aye. 

12  MS.  BROWN:    Aanestad  aye. 

13  Steinberg. 

14  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Aye. 

15  MS.  BROWN:    Steinberg  aye. 

16  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Before  you  leave,  I 

17  understand  that  you  may  have  some  family  here.   Would 

18  you  like  to  introduce  them? 

19  MS.  LOWE:    Yes.   Thank  you  very  much, 

20  Senator.    My  husband  of  almost  20  years  and  our  son 

21  are  here  back  in  the  third  row. 

22  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Welcome. 

23  MS.  LOWE:   Thank  you  very  much. 

24  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Why  didn't  you  come  up 

25  and  testify? 

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1  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    But  this  forum  here  is 

2  always  an  opportunity  for  us  to  send,  you  know,  an 

3  appropriate  message  to  the  administration,  or  at 

4  least  any  member  to  send  an  appropriate  message  to 

5  the  administration,  and  I  would  like  to  use  this 

6  opportunity  to  say  we  have  some  significant 

7  frustration  about  the  lack  of  progress  on  fairly 

8  compensating  permanently  injured  workers. 

9  This  is  an  issue  which  has  been  sort  of 

10  caught  up  in  the  political  football  for  the  last 

11  several  years.   The  administration  has  put  forward  a 

12  16  percent  increase,  which  I  think  is  far  too  low, 

13  and  even  that,  you  know,  has  not  happened. 

14  So  while  we're  in  the  midst  of  this  fiscal 

15  crisis,  I  think  it  is  important  to  just  say  a  word  on 

16  behalf  of  injured  workers  who,  when  injured,  are 

17  unable  to  receive  the  full  benefit  of  their  salaries 

18  and  suffer  great  economic  hardship.   I  don't  know  if 

19  there's  anything  that  you  can  do  about  it  as  a 

20  commissioner.    I  know  much  of  this  is  legislative, 

21  but  I  just  wanted  to  say  that. 

22  With  that,  are  there  witnesses  in  support? 

23  Witnesses  in  opposition? 

24  Motion  to  move  by  Senator  Oropeza. 

25  Please  call  the  roll. 

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CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    You  didn't  say 
anything.    I'm  just  kidding.    Welcome  and  thank  you. 

The  nomination  will  go  to  the  floor  of  the 
Senate  tomorrow. 

MS.  LOWE:   Thank  you. 

(Thereupon,  the  Senate  Rules  Committee  hearing 
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STATE  OF  CALIFORNIA  -  State  and  Consumer  Services  Agency ARNOLD  SCHWARZENEGGER,  Governor 

DEPARTMENT  OF  FAIR  EMPLOYMENT  &  HOUSING  California 

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Nettie  Sabelhaus,  Appointments  Director  rr  ^mf*  Employments  Housing 

Senate  Rules  Committee 
State  Capitol,  Room  420 
Sacramento,  CA  95814 

Re:  Response  to  Senate  Rules  Committee  Questions 
January  28,  2009  Confirmation  Hearing 

Dear  Ms.  Sabelhaus: 

In  response  to  Senate  President  Pro  Tern  Darrell  Steinberg's  request,  I  have 
prepared  the  below  responses  to  questions  posed  by  the  Senate  Rules 
Committee  pursuant  to  the  January  28,  2009  confirmation  hearing  on 
my  appointment  as  Director  of  the  Department  of  Fair  Employment  and  Housing 
(DFEH).  In  addition,  I  have  enclosed  my  updated  Form  700,  Statement  of 
Economic  Interest. 

STATEMENT  OF  GOALS 

1.  What  are  your  goals  as  the  director  of  DFEH?  What  do  you  hope  to 
accomplish  during  your  tenure,  and  how  will  you  measure  your 
success?  What  challenges  do  you  anticipate  to  meeting  your  goals? 

a.  Goals  as  DFEH  Director: 

1 )  Improve  delivery  of  public  service. 

2)  Vigorously  enforce  the  law  where  violation  is  found. 

3)  Expand  outreach  to  stakeholders. 

4)  Provide  civil  rights  leadership. 

b.  Measure  of  Success: 

1)   Improve  Delivery  of  Public  Service. 

a)  Online  Appointment  System:  The  DFEH  established  an  automated 
appointment  system  for  the  public  to  maximize  efficiency  and 
convenience.  Goal  is  10  percent  in  the  first  year.  Since  its  February 
2008  inception,  Achievement  is  20  percent  to  date.  (See 
www.dfeh.ca.gov.) 

b)  Online  Right-to-Sue  System:  Working  with  the  California 
Employment  Lawyers  Association  (CELA),  the  DFEH  instituted  an 
automated  right-to-sue  system  for  complainants  who  are  already 
represented  by  counsel.  Goal  is  20  percent  in  the  first  year.  Since 


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its  June  2008  inception,  achievement  is  more  than  one-third  (34  %) 
of  all  requests  for  right-to-sue  letters  to  date.  (See 
www.dfeh.ca.qov.) 

c)  Telephone  Intakes:  To  save  on  complainants'  time  and  travel 
expenses,  and  to  expedite  intake  processing,  developed  a  pilot 
project  to  conduct  telephone  rather  than  in-person  intakes.  Goal  is 
40  percent  of  all  employment  district  offices.  Achievement  is  40 
percent  to  date.  The  system  will  be  expanded  to  100  percent  of  all 
employment  district  offices  by  the  close  of  FY  2008/09.  All  housing 
district  offices  are  already  conducting  telephone  in-takes. 

d)  Case  Grading  System:  In  process  of  launching  a  new  system  of 
triaging  pre-accusation  cases  by  significance,  so  that  those  having 
the  greatest  systemic  impact  are  given  the  highest  priority  for 
investigation  and  prosecution.  The  system  is  expected  to  be  in 
place  in  100  percent  of  all  district  offices  by  the  close  of  FY  2008/09. 

2)  Vigorously  Enforce  the  Law. 

a)  Vigorously  enforce  the  laws  under  the  DFEH's  jurisdiction  where 
violations  are  found  (See  press  releases  on  2008  settlements  and 
judgments  at  http://www.dfeh.ca.qov/announcements/pressReleases.aspx  ) : 

i.     More  Prosecutions:  Goal  is  to  increase  the  filing  of 

accusations  by  15  percent.  In  comparing  the  DFEH  Legal 
Division's  performance  for  the  last  six  months  of  2007  to  the 
last  six  months  of  2008,  the  Department  has  increased  the 
number  of  accusations  filed  by  28  percent  (42  to  54). 

ii.    Higher  Settlements:  Goal  is  to  increase  settlement  amounts 
by  15  percent.  During  the  same  period  above,  the  DFEH  has 
increased  the  total  dollar  amount  in  post-accusation 
settlements  by  1 8  percent  ($1 ,667,489  to  $1 ,970,826).  These 
increases  are  impressive  considering  that  they  occurred 
during  the  spending  freeze  and  when  the  Department 
experienced  a  25  percent  turnover  in  the  attorney  staff  due  to 
CEA  appointments,  retirements  and  transfers. 

b)  Take  a  leadership  role  in  advancing  civil  rights  law  and  in  shaping 
public  policy.  New  initiatives: 

i.     Director's  Complaints:  Goal  is  to  begin  issuing  one  or  more 
Director's  complaints  on  high  impact  and/or  underserved 
cases  (i.e.,  pre-employment  inquiry  cases).  No  Director's 
complaints  had  been  filed  in  the  year  prior  to  my  tenure.  In 
2008,  the  Department  achieved  this  goal  by  issuing  a 
Director's  complaints  against  respondents  (Pacific  Motor 
Trucking  and  Jack  Cooper)  engaged  in  a  pattern  and  practice 
of  unlawful  pre-employment  inquiries  regarding  disability  and 
medical  condition,  and  declining  to  hire  and/or  interview 
applicants  with  these  conditions. 


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ii.    Class  Complaints:  Goal  is  to  consolidate  multiple  individual 
complaints  against  the  same  respondent  into  one  or  more 
class  complaints.  In  2008,  the  Department  filed  and  settled  a 
civil  class  action  suit,  Dept.  of  Fair  Employ.  &  Hous.  v.  Plaza 
Court  Apartments,  where  multiple  complaints  were  merged 
into  a  class  of  tenants  who  encountered  familial  status 
discrimination.  The  class  action  suit  recently  settled  for 
$618,000  and  affirmative  relief.  In  addition,  the  Department  is 
currently  litigating  another  employment  class  action/Director's 
complaint  against  a  company's  widespread  and  continuous 
use  of  a  medical  test  designed  to  deny  employment  for 
individuals  who  allegedly  have  a  propensity  to  develop  Carpal 
Tunnel  (Starcrest  Products).  There  are  several  other  class 
complaints  under  investigation. 

iii.  Collaborate  with  Other  Governmental  Agencies:  To  optimize 
limited  resources,  consider  opportunities  to  co-counsel  and 
conduct  joint  investigations  with  the  U.S.  Equal  Employment 
Opportunity  Commission,  Agricultural  Labor  Relations  Board, 
and  U.S.  Department  of  Justice  (US  DOJ).  The  DFEH  is 
currently  in  discussion  with  all  these  agencies  and  have 
participated  in  numerous  joint  training  events  with  them.  The 
US  DOJ's  Office  of  Special  Counsel  has  additionally  invited 
the  DFEH  to  apply  for  a  grant  to  eliminate  immigration  status 
discrimination  in  FY  2009/2010. 

iv.  Special  Investigations  Unit:  To  better  address  systemic 
discrimination  cases,  in  August  2008  reestablished  the 
DFEH's  Special  Investigations  Unit,  which  was  discontinued 
in  the  1990s.  Currently,  the  SIU  is  investigating  seven 
systemic  discrimination  cases  that  may  be  filed  as  individual, 
class  action  and/or  Director's  complaints. 

v.    Education:  To  proactively  prevent  violations  of  the  FEHA,  in 
June  2008  developed  a  set  of  "Equal  Rights  101"  educational 
videos  and  a  special  Web  site  on  employment  discrimination 
for  youth  outreach  under  an  EEOC  grant.  The  videos  have 
been  posted  on  a  special  page  on  the  DFEH  Web  site  and  on 
YouTube,  where  it  has  received  over  3,000  hits  and  4  Vz  out 
of  5  stars.  (See  http://www.dfeh.ca.gov/egualrights101/  and 
http://www.youtube.com/califdfeh.)  The  State  Bar  Labor  & 
Employment  Law  Section  recently  awarded  another  grant  to 
further  develop  and  disseminate  the  video.  Three  additional 
sets  of  outreach  videos  will  be  produced  in  2009  on  housing, 
public  accommodations  and  hate  crimes.  The  DFEH  is 
coordinating  with  the  Department  of  Education  to  disseminate 
the  DVDs  and  accompanying  educational  materials  to  all 
California  public  high  schools. 


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3)  Expand  Outreach  to  Stakeholders. 

a)  Expand  Outreach  and  Technical  Assistance:  In  2008,  I  made 
44  keynote  speeches/presentations  (see  Appendix  A:  Director's 
Speaking  Engagements  Summary  Log  2008);  outreached  to 
numerous  groups  and  organizations;  and  the  DFEH  staff 
engaged  in  40  presentations/outreach  activities  (see  Appendix 
B:  DFEH  Staff  Speaking  Engagements  &  Outreach  Events 
2008)  statewide  to  the  following  groups: 

i.     Civil  and  human  rights  organizations. 

ii.    Employee  and  employer  groups. 

iii.  Tenant  and  landlord  representatives. 

iv.  Plaintiffs'  and  defense  bars. 

v.    Private  and  public  sectors. 

vi.  All  stakeholders  in  our  diverse  state. 

b)  Revitalize  the  Employment  Roundtables:  In  2008,  the  Director 
continued  active  involvement  with  the  Employment  Round  Table 
of  Southern  California,  which  sponsored  four  training  meetings 
and  an  annual  conference;  and  revitalized  the  Central  and 
Northern  California  Employment  Round  Tables,  which  will 
sponsor  training  to  employer  groups  during  FEHA's  50th 
anniversary. 

i.     Southern  California 
ii.    Central  California 
iii.  Northern  California 

c)  Initiate  Support  for  Fair  Housing  and  Public  Accommodations: 

i.     In  addition  to  active  participation  in  the  Labor  & 
Employment  Section  of  the  State  Bar  of  California,  I 
launched  a  new  Fair  Housing  and  Public 
Accommodations  Subsection  at  the  State  Bar  to  develop 
the  practice  area. 

ii.    The  new  Subsection  is  planning  two  fair  housing/public 
accommodations  conferences  to  train  attorneys  on  all 
sides  of  the  issues. 

4)  Provide  Civil  Rights  Leadership. 

a)  Take  a  leading  role  in  celebrating  the  50th  anniversary  of  the 
FEHA  in  2009.  To  celebrate  the  Act's  half-century  mark,  work  in 
partnership  with  stakeholders  to  collaborate  on  events 
throughout  California  to  celebrate  the  advancement  of  the  law 
(see  FEHA  50th  Anniversary  Brochure  and  Civil  Rights  Year 
Calendars  for  January-March  2009  at  www.dfeh.ca.gov): 

i.     Civil  rights  community. 

ii.    Unsung  heroes. 

iii.  Model  employers,  businesses  and  housing  providers. 

iv.  Plaintiff  and  defense  bars,  minority  bars  and  neutrals. 

v.    Private  and  public  sectors. 


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vi.  All  branches  and  levels  of  government. 

b)  Planning  the  Next  50  Years: 

i.     Conduct  studies  to  take  measure  of  the  Act's 

accomplishments,  its  gaps,  and  to  recommend  policies 
for  the  future 

ii.    Invite  academic  and  research  institutions  to  study  the 
FEHA: 

(a)  UCLA  Law  School-RAND  Study. 

(b)  Loyola  Law  School  Study. 

iii.    Provide  the  studies  to  policymakers  and  all  stakeholders 

in  late  2009. 
iv.  Recommend  a  blueprint  on  advancing  the  FEHA  for  the 

next  50  years  in  late  2009. 

c)  Plan  the  Act's  Renaissance  in  2010: 

i.     Issue  DFEH  administrative  regulations  in  2010. 

ii.    Scope  of  regulations  would  cover  intake  to  issuance  of 

accusation, 
iii.  Hold  regulatory  hearings  statewide, 
iv.  Invite  public  comments  and  testimony, 
v.    File  with  and  seek  approval  from  the  Office  of 

Administrative  Law. 
vi.  Promulgate  approved  regulations  as  new  sections  in  the 

California  Code  of  Regulations. 

2.    What  have  been  your  most  significant  accomplishments  as  director  of 
DFEH? 

All  of  the  above  are  significant  accomplishments  integral  to  moving  civil  rights 
and  the  Department  forward.   I  believe  the  following  are  the  most  salient. 

Service  to  the  Public. 

In  the  delivery  of  public  services,  the  Employment  Unit's  online  appointment, 
riqht-to-sue,  and  telephone  intake  systems  have  made  service  delivery  more 
accessible  for  complainants  and  their  counsel.  Complainants'  counsels  have 
given  rave  reviews  to  the  right-to-sue  system.  At  the  same  time,  they  have 
modernized  case  processing,  increased  the  Department's  efficiency  and  reduced 
expenses  at  a  time  of  state  budget  challenges.  The  new  case  grading  system 
will  further  help  to  target  cases  requiring  the  most  demanding  investigation  and 
prosecution  efforts. 


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Enforcement 

■  The  Enforcement  Division. 

In  the  vigorous  enforcement  of  the  law,  I  am  proud  of  the  increased  prosecution 
and  better  results  in  settling  cases.  With  additional  federal  funding  to  add  a 
limited  term  housing  district  office,  the  Housing  Unit  increased  productivity  by  35 
percent.  Even  with  a  10  percent  staff  reduction,  on  dual-filed  cases  with  the 
federal  government,  the  Enforcement  Division  brought  in  revenues  of  $2.5  million 
from  the  EEOC  and  $2.6  million  from  HUD,  the  latter  the  highest  in  the  history  of 
the  Department. 

■  The  Legal  Division. 

During  my  first  year  at  DFEH,  the  Legal  Division  faced  several  significant 
challenges.  First,  my  administration  inherited  an  over  30  percent  turnover  in  both 
the  Legal  Division's  attorney  and  secretarial  staff.  Second,  for  nearly  two  months 
during  the  fall  of  2008,  a  spending  freeze  due  to  the  late  approval  of  a  state 
budget  significantly  hampered  the  Legal  Division's  efforts  to  prosecute  its  civil 
rights  cases.  Third,  numerous  vacant  attorney  and  support  staff  positions 
remained  unfilled  for  much  of  the  2008  in  order  obtain  salary  savings  for  the 
department. 

Despite  these  obstacles,  the  Legal  Division  improved  its  productivity.  After  hiring 
a  new  Chief  Counsel  and  implementing  a  more  aggressive  commitment  to 
litigating  the  department's  cases,  the  Legal  Division  increased  both  its  new  case 
filings  and  settlements.  Specifically,  when  compared  to  the  last  six  months  of 
2007,  in  the  last  six  months  of  2008  the  Legal  Division  increased  its  filings  of  new 
Accusations  from  42  to  54  (a  28%  increase).  Similarly,  during  this  same 
timeframe  the  Legal  Division  increased  its  total  negotiated  settlement  dollars 
from  $1,667,489  to  $1,970,826  (an  18%  increase).   In  light  of  the  Legal  Division's 
significant  challenges  in  2008,  these  productivity  increases  in  the  second  half  of 
2008  were  impressive.  The  Legal  Division  anticipates  continued  increases  in  the 
future. 

In  addition  to  overall  productivity  increases,  2008  also  marked  several  impressive 
individual  settlements  and  victories  by  the  Legal  Division.  For  example,  in  DFEH 
v.  Plaza  Court  Apartments,  the  Legal  Division  successfully  negotiated  a 
$618,000  out-of-court  settlement  in  a  class  action  complaint  against  a  large 
apartment  complex  that  was  discriminating  against  children.  Specifically,  the 
complex  prohibited  children  from  ever  playing  alone  outside  of  their  apartment 
units,  and  threatened  to  evict  families  who  violated  such  discriminatory  rules.  As 
a  result  of  the  Legal  Division's  settlement,  the  complex  was  required  to  adopt 
written  policies  that  would  prohibit  future  familial  status  discrimination  against 
tenants  with  families.  In  DFEH  v.  Lakeshore  Villas  Homeowners  Owners 
Association,  the  Legal  Division  successfully  negotiated  a  $150,000  out-of-court 


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disability  discrimination  settlement  with  a  condominium's  home  owner's 
association  (HOA).   In  that  case,  the  HOA  wrongfully  removed  a  terminally  ill 
tenant's  wooden  ramp  from  a  designated  handicap  parking  space.  As  a  result  of 
the  HOA's  actions,  the  tenant  could  not  access  his  van,  and  he  was  virtually 
house-bound  for  about  ten  weeks.  Finally,  in  DFEH  v.  Terra  Linda  Farms,  the 
Legal  Division  won  a  precedential  employment  retaliation  decision  on  behalf  of 
two  seasonal  farm  workers  before  the  Fair  Employment  and  Housing 
Commission  (FEHC).   In  a  decision  that  awarded  over  $11 1,000,  the  FEHC 
agreed  with  the  Legal  Division's  arguments  that  Terra  Linda  Farms  unlawfully 
retaliated  against  farm  workers  Maribal  Rivas  and  Maria  Santillan.  (See  press 

releases  On  these  settlements  at  http://www.dfeh.ca.qov/announcements/pressReleases.aspx.) 

■  Proactive  Prevention  of  Violations. 

Under  a  grant  from  the  EEOC  and  now  a  new  grant  from  the  State  Bar  Labor  & 
Employment  Law  Section,  the  DFEH  used  mass  communications  technology  to 
produce  "Equal  Rights  101"  educational  videos  with  its  own  staff.  The  videos, 
dedicated  Web  site  and  YouTube  postings  have  received  outstanding  reviews 
from  viewers.  I  have  shown  these  to  hundreds  of  persons  at  conferences;  and 
the  video  has  been  viewed  by  thousands  online.  On  YouTube,  the  videos  have 
received  over  3,000  hits  and  garnered  4  1/4  out  of  5  stars.  (See 
http://www.dfeh.ca.gov/equalrights101/and  http://www.youtube.com/califdfeh.)  Three 
additional  sets  of  outreach  videos  will  be  produced  in  2009  on  housing,  public 
accommodations  and  hate  crimes.  The  DFEH  is  further  coordinating  with  the 
Department  of  Education  to  disseminate  the  DVDs,  posters,  locker  magnets  and 
cards  to  all  California  public  high  schools  for  use  in  a  life  skills  class.  In  addition, 
the  DFEH  is  coordinating  with  bar  groups  to  develop  a  speakers'  bureau  for  high 
schools. 

Outreach 

■  Outreach  and  Technical  Assistance. 

In  2008,  my  44  keynote  speeches/presentations  (see  Appendix  A:  Director's 
Speaking  Engagements  Summary  Log  2008),  outreach  to  numerous 
organizations,  and  the  DFEH's  staffs  additional  40  presentations/outreach 
activities  (see  Appendix  B:  DFEH  Staff  Speaking  Engagements  &  Outreach 
Events  2008)  created  greater  awareness  of  civil  rights  laws  under  the 
Department's  jurisdiction  among  the  following  groups: 

o    Civil  and  human  rights  organizations. 

o    Employee  and  employer  groups. 

o    Tenant  and  landlord  representatives. 

o    Plaintiffs'  and  defense  bars. 

o    Private  and  public  sectors. 

o    All  stakeholders  in  our  diverse  state. 


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■  Support  for  Fair  Housing  and  Public  Accommodations. 

Unlike  the  employment  bar,  which  has  developed  a  robust  practice  and  a 
balance  of  plaintiffs'  and  defense  counsel,  there  is  nearly  no  private  bar  for  fair 
housing  and  public  accommodations.  As  a  result,  there  is  a  dearth  of  case  law 
and  attorneys  trained  to  guide  landlords  and  businesses  on  how  to  comply  with 
the  FEHA  and  the  Unruh  Civil  Rights  Act.  To  remedy  this  deficiency,  I 
approached  the  State  Bar  to  initiate  a  new  Fair  Housing  and  Public 
Accommodations  Subsection  under  the  auspices  of  the  Real  Property  Law 
Section.  Bringing  together  a  balanced  representation  of  plaintiff,  defense, 
government,  and  neutral  attorneys,  the  Subsection  was  launched  in  December 
2008  to  develop  the  practice  area.  The  new  Subsection  is  planning  two  fair 
housing/public  accommodations  conferences  during  the  FEHA's  50th  anniversary 
year  to  train  attorneys  on  both  sides  of  the  issues.  The  Subsection  will  make 
long-term  contributions  to  the  development  of  fair  housing/public 
accommodations  law  in  California. 

Civil  Rights  Leadership. 

■  50th  anniversary  of  the  FEHA. 

To  celebrate  the  FEHA's  half-century  mark  in  2009,  I  have  worked  in  partnership 
with  private  and  public  sector  stakeholders  to  collaborate  on  events  throughout 
California  to  celebrate  the  advancement  of  the  law  (see  FEHA  50th  Anniversary 
Brochure  and  Civil  Rights  Year  Calendars  for  January-March  2009  at 
www.dfeh.ca.gov).  A  kick-off  press  conference  is  planned  to  honor  civil  rights 
heroes  at  the  Capitol.  The  Department  is  creating  a  short  introductory  video  on 
the  anniversary  that  includes  greetings  from  Senate  President  pro  Tern  Darrell 
Steinberg,  Assembly  Speaker  Karen  Bass,  Senator  Abel  Maldonado,  State  and 
Consumer  Services  Agency  Secretary  Rosario  Marin,  DFEH  Director  Phyllis 
Cheng  and  FEHC  Chairman  George  Woolverton.  The  video  will  be  played 
before  every  keynote  address  at  conferences  and  will  be  posted  on  the  DFEH 
Web  site  and  on  YouTube.   In  addition  to  a  review  of  the  law  and  new 
developments,  the  conferences  will  also  serve  as  forums  to  honor  the  civil  rights 
community;  unsung  heroes;  model  employers,  businesses  and  housing 
providers;  plaintiff,  defense,  general  and  minority  bar  groups;  private  and  public 
sector  groups;  and  all  branches  and  levels  of  government. 

■  Policy  analysis  and  planning. 

With  approximately  19,000  complaints  filed  per  year,  the  DFEH  is  a  repository  of 
rich  statistical  data  that  has  been  untapped  for  policy  analysis  and  planning 
purposes.  No  research  has  measured  the  impact  of  the  law  on  California. 
Accordingly,  I  invited  academic  and  research  institutions  to  study  the 
Department's  data.  The  UCI_A-RAND  Center  for  Law  and  Public  Policy  has  been 
contracted  to  study  the  Act's  accomplishments  and  gaps,  and  to  recommend 


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policies  for  the  future.  The  study  is  expected  to  be  released  in  late  2009.  The 
Department  plans  to  make  the  results  available  to  the  Administration,  the 
Legislature  and  all  stakeholders,  and  to  post  the  report  online.  In  addition,  the 
Department  has  shared  disability  discrimination  data  with  Loyola  Law  School, 
which  may  undertake  a  similar  study  focused  on  disability  and  the  FEHA. 
Hopefully,  these  studies  will  make  long-term  contributions  to  the  future 
development  of  the  FEHA. 

GENERAL  GOVERNANCE 

DFEH  is  charged  with  enforcing  California's  civil  rights  laws  and  protecting 
people  from  discrimination  in  employment,  housing,  and  public 
accommodations.  DFEH  is  the  country's  largest  state  civil  rights  agency. 
The  department  is  responsible  for  receiving  and  investigating 
discrimination  complaints  in  its  twelve  district  offices. 

In  general,  between  16,000  and  20,000  discrimination  complaints  were  filed 
with  the  department  over  the  last  ten  years.  The  director's  recent 
comments  to  the  National  Commission  on  Fair  Housing  and  Equal 
Opportunity  indicate  that  more  than  80  percent  of  these  complaints  were 
employment  related. [1]  DFEH  intake  consultants  first  interview 
complainants  and  then  draft  formal  complaints  and  accept  cases  for 
investigation. 

3.         How  do  you  prioritize  the  department's  responsibilities,  particularly 
given  current  budgetary  realities? 

I  prioritize  the  Department's  responsibilities  in  accordance  with  its  mission  to 
protect  Californians  from  employment,  housing  and  public  accommodations 
discrimination,  and  hate  violence.   In  response  to  the  recent  budgetary 
challenges,  the  Department  has  eliminated  many  top  and  middle  management 
positions  in  favor  of  retaining  investigative  consultant  and  attorney  positions 
directly  engaged  in  the  enforcement  of  the  FEHA,  Unruh  Civil  Rights  Act,  and 
Ralph  Civil  Rights  Act. 

o    Under  the  budget-balancing  reduction  of  10  percent  across  all  General 
Fund  departments  for  FY  2008/09,  the  DFEH's  reduction  meant  $1.9 
million,  including  18  positions.  After  considering  many  alternatives,  the 
Department  determined  that  the  most  appropriate  response  to  this  budget 
challenge  was  to  first  eliminate  a  number  of  management  positions  that 
resulted  in  a  reorganization  of  the  Department. 

Structurally,  the  elimination  of  these  positions  and  the  growth  in  the  Department's 
housing  program  led  to  a  division  of  the  duties  of  the  Enforcement  Division 


1  However,  on  the  filing  of  DFEH  Accusations,  60  percent  are  in  employment  and  40  percent  are 
in  housing. 

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between  two  Deputy  Directors:  one  in  housing;  and  the  other  in  employment. 
Both  positions  report  directly  to  the  Director. 

As  described  more  fully  below  under  item  11 ,  the  Department  has  instituted  new 
case  processing  methods  to  timely  investigate  and  triage  complaints.  In  addition, 
the  Department  is  considering  a  reduction  in  space  rental  as  well  as  the 
institution  of  electronic  transmission  and  scanning  as  a  result  efficiencies 
generated  by  its  automation,  telephone  intake  and  case  grading  procedures. 

4.         Do  you  attend  meetings  of  the  Fair  Employment  and  Housing 
Commission?  How  do  you  keep  yourself  abreast  of  the  relevant  issues? 

My  top  staff  and  I  regularly  attend  every  FEHC  meeting.  Of  the  Commission's 
four  meetings  In  2008,  I  attended  two,  Chief  Counsel  Tim  Muscat  attended  one, 
and  Oakland  Housing  District  Administrator  Susan  Sheftel  attended  one  meeting. 
I  believe  it  is  beneficial  for  the  Commissioners  to  meet  as  many  of  the 
Department's  staff  as  possible,  so  that  they  have  a  better  understanding  of  all 
functions  within  the  DFEH.  I  have  additionally  met  and  collaborated  with  FEHC 
Chairman  George  Wool verton,  other  Commissioners,  and  Executive  and  Legal 
Affairs  Secretary  Ann  Noel  on  non-litigated  matters. 

As  a  former  two-term  Vice  Chair  and  Commissioner  of  the  FEHC,  I  am  well 
familiar  with  the  work  of  the  Commission.  I  ruled  on  78  en  banc  FEHC  decisions, 
issued  17  precedential  decisions,  and  promulgated  four  sets  of  regulations  during 
my  Commission  tenure.  I  have  read  every  Commission  decision  since  1993  and 
the  vast  majority  of  all  precedential  decisions  before  that  time.  From  1999  to 
2003,  as  a  Deputy  Attorney  General  in  the  Civil  Rights  Enforcement  Section,  I 
further  represented  the  FEHC  and  DFEH  as  my  clients  before  various  trial  courts 
and  the  Court  of  Appeal,  winning  all  of  these  cases,  including  a  published 
housing  decision  before  the  Court  of  Appeal.  From  2003  to  2007,  as  a  Senior 
Appellate  Court  Attorney  at  the  Second  District  Court  of  Appeal,  I  further  worked 
on  numerous  FEHA  cases.   Moreover,  in  private  practice,  I  have  litigated  FEHA 
cases  on  both  the  plaintiff  side  at  Hadsell  &  Stormer  from  1993-1994  as  well  as 
the  defense  side  at  Littler  Mendelson  from  2007-2008. 

Moreover,  I  am  active  with  the  State  Bar  and  knowledgeable  about  labor  and 
employment  law.  As  a  former  member  of  its  Labor  &  Employment  Law  Section 
Executive  Commission,  I  launched  and  continue  to  prepare  its  "Labor  & 
Employment  Case  Law  Alert,"  an  e-alert  on  breaking  new  case  law,  which  is 
disseminated  to  nearly  7,000  members  of  the  employment  bar.  To  do  this  work,  I 
must  review  each  and  every  labor/employment  published  decision  of  the  U.S. 
Supreme  Court,  Ninth  Circuit  Court  of  Appeals,  California  Supreme  Court, 
California  Court  of  Appeal,  and  the  FEHC.  I  also  continue  to  write  a  regular 
column  on  "Cases  Pending  before  the  California  Supreme  Court  "in  the  bi- 
monthly California  Labor  &  Employment  Law  Review,  the  official  publication  of 
the  Section.  To  do  this  work,  I  must  review  each  and  every  labor/employment 


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case  pending  before  the  California  Supreme  Court  and  be  abreast  of  its  status.  I 
also  edit  a  column  entitled  "Employment  Case  Notes,"  which  summarizes  recent 
labor  employment  case  law.  I  further  serve  on  the  Law  Review's  editorial  board, 
was  Co-Editor-in-Chief  of  that  journal,  and  have  published  numerous  articles  in 
this  and  other  publications.  In  addition,  I  am  a  frequent  speaker  at  the  Section's 
Annual  Meetings,  Public  Sector  Conferences  and  Webinars. 

Finally,  as  described  under  Item  2  above,  I  have  launched  a  new  Fair  Housing 
and  Public  Accommodations  Subsection  under  the  State  Bar  Real  Property  Law 
Section,  whose  purpose  is  to  grow  these  practice  areas.  I  developed  an  E-Circle 
for  this  practice  under  the  State  Bar  Web  site  for  those  interested  in  learning 
about  the  practice.  I  also  forward  to  this  group  any  and  all  new  fair 
housing/public  accommodations  cases  and  articles.  To  do  this  work,  I  must 
review  each  and  every  case  and  article  on  these  topics. 

5.  DFEH  consultants  are  responsible  for  conducting  intake  interviews  and 
accepting  complaints  for  investigation.  How  do  you  ensure  that  they  are 
sufficiently  trained? 

Keeping  the  DFEH  staff  informed  and  trained  is  a  high  priority.  The  Deputy 
Directors  of  Employment  and  Housing,  and  their  respective  District 
Administrators,  ensure  that  all  consultants  are  well  trained. 

In  March  2008,  I  issued  an  Update  of  the  Case  Analysis  Manual,  refereed  by 
practicing  attorneys,  to  all  DFEH  consultants  and  District  Administrators.  The 
Manual  guides  consultants  on  case  processing  and  investigations. 

In  August  2008,  the  Department  launched  an  internal  blog  for  all  District 
Administrators,  so  that  they  can  discuss  and  share  strategies  on  the  investigation 
of  cases.  The  District  Administrators  and  DFEH  Staff  Counsel  also  receive  my 
"Case  Law  Alerts,"  "Cases  Pending  before  the  California  Supreme  Court," 
selected  Daily  Journal  articles,  and  other  new  information  to  keep  abreast  of  new 
developments.  The  information  is  passed  onto  investigative  consultants  to  guide 
them  in  their  work. 

In  December  2008,  all  District  Administrators,  attorneys  and  some  senior 
consultants  received  a  full-day  of  training  from  the  EEOC  on  the  investigation  of 
systemic  discrimination  cases  as  well  as  a  case  grading  system.    The  training 
material  is  further  disseminated  by  the  District  Administrators  to  their 
investigative  staff. 

Further,  HUD  provides  annual  training  to  all  new  District  Administrators  and 
consultants  in  the  Housing  Unit. 

I  post  a  current  PowerPoint  of  my  EEO  Legal  Update  on  the  Department's  Web 
site  that  is  accessible  to  everyone  within  and  outside  the  DFEH,  so  that  they  can 


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keep  current  on  the  state  of  the  law.  I  also  receive  every  Webmaster  posting 
from  the  public  to  ascertain  the  level  of  knowledge  in  resolving  cases  among  the 
staff.  The  legal  community  and  members  of  the  public  also  e-mail  me  directly 
about  case  processing.  I  respond  to  and/or  assign  a  manager  to  respond  to 
every  e-mailed  or  mailed  complaint  and  monitor  their  resolution  by  the 
consultants. 

In  addition,  during  the  50th  anniversary  year  of  the  FEHA,  all  educational 
programs  will  be  videotaped  and  posted  on  the  Department's  Intranet  as  training 
tools  for  the  DFEH  staff. 

6.        Your  predecessor  made  use  of  volunteers  because  of  lack  of  staff. 
What  is  the  current  mix  of  paid  staff  and  volunteers  and  what  functions  do 
volunteers  currently  perform,  if  any? 

The  Department  utilizes  unpaid  intems/externs  in  its  Contract  Compliance 
Program,  Legal  Division  and  Volunteer  Mediation  Program.  The  current 
percentage  of  unpaid  volunteers  is  nearly  0.5  percent  (9  unpaid  volunteers/21 1 
paid  staff). 

Starting  in  January  2009,  the  Department  will  sponsor  an  unpaid,  part-time  Public 
Policy  Intern  at  Headquarters.  A  graduate  student  in  the  California  State 
University,  Sacramento,  Public  Policy  and  Administration  Program,  the  intern's 
primary  assignment  will  be  to  assist  the  Compliance  Program.  He  will  help 
analyze  and  present  the  Department's  statistical  data  in  graphical  formats  that 
can  be  used  for  many  purposes,  including  inclusion  on  our  Web  site  and  in  a 
Department  annual  report.   In  addition,  he  will  assist  with  Public  Records  Act 
requests  and  have  the  opportunity  to  observe  and  assist  in  the  work  of  the 
Executive  Team. 

The  Legal  Division  regularly  sponsors  two  to  three  unpaid  Legal  Externs  from 
various  ABA-accredited  law  schools.  These  externs  assist  the  Chief  Counsel, 
Associate  Chief  Counsels  and  Staff  Counsels  with  legal  research  on  cases 
prosecuted  by  the  Department. 

The  Volunteer  Mediation  Program  currently  utilizes  five  unpaid  volunteer 
mediators  in  the  Employment  Unit:  four  in  Southern  California  and  one  in 
Northern  California.  The  Department  will  soon  be  entering  an  agreement  with 
Loyola  Law  School  Center  for  Conflict  Resolution.   In  addition,  the  DFEH 
Volunteer  Mediation  Program  is  seeking  experienced  mediators  to  serve  on  its 
Northern  California  Volunteer  Mediation  Program  panel.  Selected  applicants  will 
be  asked  to  participate  in  a  full-day  mandatory  orientation  tentatively  scheduled 
for  January  12,  2009  in  Oakland.  We  hope  to  increase  volunteer  mediators  from 
five  to  ten  persons. 


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7.        At  her  confirmation  hearing  before  the  Senate  Rules  Committee  on 
May  25,  2005,  the  previous  DFEH  director  indicated  that  the  department's 
call  center  equipment  had  been  updated  with  state-of-the-art  equipment  to 
enable  the  department  to  track  call  volume  and  wait  times.  Please  provide 
the  committee  with  any  statistical  data  or  anecdotal  information  on  this 
subject.  Has  the  department  had  to  redirect  resources  to  address  these 
needs — for  example,  to  address  high  call  volume? 

In  the  time  since  Director  Ambrose  was  confirmed  until  the  present,  the 
Communication  Center  has  made  several  improvements  in  order  to  best  handle 
calls  in  an  expeditious  manner. 

Although  the  Communication  Center  is  working  with  less  staff  members,  the 
Center  is  able  to  handle  calls  quickly  with  shorter  wait  times.  Equipment  which 
tracks  the  volume  of  calls  and  the  length  of  time  callers  remain  on  hold,  as  well 
as  how  many  disconnect  prior  to  getting  through  to  a  representative,  has  been 
useful  in  scheduling  staff  to  assure  they  are  available  during  peak  periods.  A  call 
status  board,  which  shows  the  number  of  calls  waiting  and  the  wait  time,  has  also 
been  added  which  is  visible  to  all  Communication  Center  staff. 

In  early  2008,  the  Department  additionally  introduced  an  Online  Appointment 
System  which  allows  persons  seeking  services  to  schedule  appointments  at  any 
time,  day  or  night.  Currently,  over  20  percent  of  the  appointments  made  are 
made  through  the  online  system.  As  a  result,  this  has  lowered  the  number  of 
calls  to  the  Communication  Center. 

PROCESSING  OF  COMPLAINTS 

In  the  1990s  the  department  had  a  serious  backlog  in  processing 
complaints.  Because  of  this  backlog  the  1996  Budget  Act  required  the 
Bureau  of  State  Audits  to  perform  a  comprehensive  audit  of  DFEH.  The 
audit,  issued  in  January  1997,  found  that  30  percent  of  discrimination 
complaints  took  longer  to  process  than  the  one-year  limit  imposed  by  law. 
Following  the  audit  the  department  instituted  a  number  of  reforms  and  the 
backlog  was  reduced  substantially.  The  following  table  contains 
information  provided  by  the  department  detailing  an  overview  of 
complaints  and  the  backlog. 


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FY 
1995-96* 

FY 
2004-05 

FY 
2005-06 

FY 
2006-07 

FY 
2007-08** 

FY 
2008-09 

(7/1/08- 
10/31/08) 

Filed  for  Investigation 

9,149 

7,788 

8,303 

7,152 

8,168 

2,915 

Filing  Purposes  Only*** 

N/A 

2,070 

1,738 

1,518 

1,598 

565 

Immediate  Right  to  Sue 

N/A 

7,809 

7,538 

7,950 

9,337 

3,567 

Total  Complaints  Filed 

18,101 

17,667 

17,579 

16,620 

19,103 

7,047 

Cases  Exceeding  365  days 

2,727 

38 

62 

203 

156                   21 

The  FY  1995-96  data  is  from  the  1997  audit.  It  is  included  for  comparison  purposes. 
DFEH  notes  that  the  FY  2007-08  statistics  have  not  yet  been  finalized  and  may  change 
when  final  statistics  are  subsequently  produced. 
Non-jurisdictional  cases  and  those  not  supporting  further  inquiry. 


The  following  table  contains  information  provided  by  the  department  regarding 
the  average  caseload: 


FY 
2004-05 

FY 
2005-06 

FY 
2006-07 

FY 
2007-08* 

FY 
2008-09 

(7/1/08- 
10/31/08) 

Average 

Nonhousing 

Caseload 

64.6 

70.7 

66.9 

56.1 

61.2 

Average 
Housing 
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8.        In  the  last  few  years  backlog  in  cases  exceeding  the  one-year 
deadline  has  begun  to  increase  with  203  such  cases  in  FY  2006-07  and  156 
cases  in  FY  2007-08.  While  the  department  has  made  substantial  progress 
since  the  1997  audit  in  reducing  the  backlog,  what  actions  or  policies  could 
be  instituted  to  further  expedite  and  improve  the  department's  processing 
of  complaints? 

In  January  2009,  the  Employment  Unit  will  be  introducing  a  "Case  Grading" 
System.  The  system  will  place  cases  into  various  categories  of  processing 
depending  on  complexity  and  likelihood  of  a  merit  finding.  This  method  will  allow 
the  Department  to  prioritize  more  complex,  which  generally  take  longer  to 
investigate,  and  begin  investigation  immediately.  In  putting  the  focus  on  the 
development  of  cases,  rather  than  on  the  "first  in,  first  out"  process  currently 
used,  it  is  anticipated  that  delays  in  case  processing  will  be  reduced.  The 
Employment  unit  is  also  aggressively  taking  action  to  correct  the  performance  of 
several  employees  who  are  responsible  for  approximately  40  percent  of  the 
cases  closing  after  one  year.  The  processing  of  cases  assigned  to  them  is  being 


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closely  monitored  by  their  supervisors  to  ensure  that  agreed  timeframes  are  met 
and  that  long  delays  in  case  processing  are  not  occurring. 

9.  Are  there  certain  complaints  that  are  more  difficult  to  resolve  in  a 
timely  manner?  If  so,  why? 

Certain  types  of  employment  cases  are  more  difficult  than  others  and  take  a 
longer  time  to  process.  Cases  involving  disability  discrimination,  denial  of  leave, 
denial  of  accommodation,  and  some  harassment  cases  often  require  securing 
medical  records,  locating  witnesses,  and  conducting  on-site  visits.  Delays  may 
also  be  caused  by  recalcitrant  respondents,  who  refuse  to  submit  requested 
information  or  submit  incomplete  information.  It  is  necessary  in  these  cases  to 
initiate  formal  discovery  which  requires  time  to  prepare  and  causes  delay  in  case 
processing.  With  rising  caseloads,  and  based  on  the  current  "first  in,  first  out" 
manner  of  processing  cases,  consultants  may  not  begin  investigating  these  more 
time-consuming  cases  until  several  months  after  the  date  of  filing — and  may  run 
out  of  time  before  they  can  secure  the  evidence  necessary  to  make  a 
determination.  It  is  anticipated  with  the  new  Case  Grading  system,  which 
prioritizes  case  processing  based  on  complexity  rather  than  date  filed,  work  on 
these  more  difficult  cases  can  commence  earlier  in  the  process. 

10.  There  appears  to  be  a  general  upward  trend  in  the  number  of 
complaints  filed  with  the  department  in  the  last  two  years.  What  might  be 
the  reasons  for  this  increase  in  filed  complaints? 

There  is  no  clear  factor  as  to  why  the  number  of  filed  complaints  has  increased  in 
the  last  two  years.  Some  of  this  increase  may  be  attributable  to  the  downturn  in 
the  economy,  with  people  being  let  go  from  their  positions  or  demoted.  There 
does  not  seem  to  be  a  particular  trend  emerging  to  demonstrate  an  increase  in 
any  particular  type  of  complaint  being  filed  or  a  rise  in  complaints  from  any 
particular  industry. 

However,  the  literature  on  prior  recessionary  economies  shows  fiscal  downturns 
and  the  excess  supply  of  labor  generate  an  increase  in  employment 
discrimination  claims.  (See  Donahue  &  Seligman,  Law  and  Macroeconomics: 
Employment  Discrimination  Litigation  over  the  Business  Cycle  (1993)  66 
So.Cal.Law.Rev.  709.)  In  California,  this  trend  has  reemerged  under  the 
prolonged  economic  slow  down.  Total  employment  discrimination  cases  dual 
filed  with  the  DFEH  and  the  U.S.  Equal  Employment  Opportunity  Commission 
(EEOC)  grew  from  4,404  in  FY  2006/07  to  5,229  in  FY,  an  increase  of  825  cases. 

More  than  20  labor  and  employment  appeals,  some  pertaining  to  the  FEHA,  are 
currently  before  the  California  Supreme  Court.  Despite  these  fiscally  challenging 
times  and  an  increasing  case  load,  DFEH  continues  to  vigorously  enforce  the  law 
wherever  discrimination  is  found.  As  we  approach  the  50th  anniversary  of  the 
FEHA  in  2009,  civil  rights  enforcement  is  proving  to  be  more  vital  than  ever. 


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wherever  discrimination  is  found.  As  we  approach  the  50th  anniversary  of  the 
FEHA  in  2009,  civil  rights  enforcement  is  proving  to  be  more  vital  than  ever. 

1 1 .      The  average  consultant  caseloads  have  fluctuated  over  the  last  few 
years.  What  has  been  the  impact  of  these  changes  on  the  department, 
complainants,  and  respondents? 

In  March  2007,  approximately  35  employment  consultants,  more  than  one-third, 
had  been  on  the  job  one  year  or  less.  It  takes,  on  average,  between  one  to  two 
years  for  a  consultant  to  be  trained  to  the  point  where  they  are  fully  producing. 
The  challenge  is  to  process  the  same  number  of  cases  with  fewer  consultants. 

In  FY  2005/06  the  Employment  Unit  was  augmented  with  eight  new  consultant 
positions.  However,  in  FY  2007-2008  the  Employment  unit  lost  seven  consultant 
positions  as  the  result  of  budget  reductions,  most  of  which  had  been  left  vacant 
for  more  than  six  months  to  meet  the  expected  cutback.  Currently,  in  anticipation 
of  FY  2008/09  budget  cuts,  the  Employment  Unit  has  left  nine  consultant 
positions  unfilled  in  order  to  have  the  least  impact  on  existing  staff.  Coupled  with 
the  reassignment  of  several  consultant  positions  to  the  newly-created  Special 
Investigations  Unit,  the  Employment  Unit  has  gone  from  86  consultant  positions 
in  November  2006  to  78  positions  in  November  2008,  68  of  which  are  currently 
filled. 

The  Employment  Unit  plans  to  meet  this  challenge  with  switching  from  in-person 
intake  interviews  to  almost  exclusively  telephone  intake  interviews,  and  with  the 
implementation  of  the  Case  Grading  System.   In  offices  where  the  lag-time  for 
intake  appointments  is  long,  appointments  are  being  redirected  to  other  offices 
with  shorter  lag-times.  Cases  are  redistributed  between  offices  to  try  to  equalize 
caseloads.  These  efforts  are  aimed  at  attempting  to  maintain  the  same  level  of 
service  to  the  public  while  working  with  diminished  resources.  DFEH  staff 
members  are  still  available  to  provide  assistance  to  employers  and  to  conduct 
outreach  activities. 

CONSUMER  ASSISTANCE  AND  OUTREACH 

DFEH's  statutory  mandate  requires  the  department  to  receive,  investigate, 
and  resolve  complaints  alleging  discrimination  in  employment,  housing, 
public  accommodations,  and  hate  violence.  The  department  recently 
implemented  an  automated  online  appointment  system  allowing 
complainants  to  schedule  intake  appointments  with  DFEH  consultants  in 
cases  of  job-related  discrimination  or  harassment.  The  department  has 
also  set  up  a  system  permitting  complainants  to  request  a  "right-to-sue 
notice"  online. 


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In  addition  to  investigating  complaints,  DFEH  also  provides  technical 
assistance  to  employers,  businesses,  and  housing  providers  to  help  them 
better  understand  their  responsibilities  under  California's  civil  rights  laws. 

12.  Requesting  a  right-to-sue  notice  has  important  implications:  if  an 
individual  requests  a  right-to-sue  notice,  the  department  will  not 
investigate  his  or  her  complaint.  The  department's  Web  site  currently 
advises  individuals  of  this  fact  and  suggests  that  waiving  the  department's 
investigation  is  advisable  only  if  the  individual  has  an  attorney.  What  has 
been  the  feedback  on  the  online  right-to-sue  notice  system?  Have  any 
issues  been  raised  about  the  advisement? 

Since  the  Automated  Right-to-Sue  System  went  online,  the  comments  received 
have  been  overwhelmingly  positive.  Where  issues  are  raised,  they  are  more  of 
the  nature  of  difficulties  encountered  in  filling  out  the  form,  problems  printing,  and 
recommendations  for  improvement.  To  date,  over  2700  complaints  have  been 
filed  using  the  automated  system  which  represents  approximately  34  percent  of 
all  cases  filed  to  obtain  the  immediate  right-to-sue  notice  during  this  period.  The 
majority  of  the  users  are  attorneys,  and  comments  from  them,  particularly  from 
the  plaintiffs'  bar,  have  been  encouraging. 

I  hold  monthly  meetings  with  the  California  Employment  Lawyers  Association 
(CELA)  and  spoke  at  its  2008  Annual  Conference.  The  comments  I  received  on 
the  Right-to-Sue  System  have  been  overwhelmingly  positive. 

13.  A  recent  visit  to  the  department's  Web  site  found  that  only  the 
homepage  contained  a  link  to  the  online  system  permitting  complainants  to 
request  a  right-to-sue  notice.  Other  areas  of  the  Web  site,  such  as  the 
"Complaints"  tab  or  "Right-to-Sue  Notice"  tab  do  not  appear  to  contain  a 
link  to  the  system.  Are  there  plans  to  update  these  other  areas  of  the 
department's  Web  site  to  also  include  a  link  to  this  system  so  that 
complainants  may  request  a  right-to-sue  notice  online? 

The  Automated  Right-to-Sue  system  was  developed  with  the  intent  of  making  it 
easier  for  attorneys  or  complainants  with  attorneys  to  obtain  the  "right-to-sue" 
notice  from  the  Department.  As  noted  above,  the  Department  is  careful  in 
directing  only  those  persons  for  whom  this  is  the  case  to  the  Automated  Right-to- 
Sue  system.  Care  must  be  taken  to  assure  that  members  of  the  public  do  not 
erroneously  file  complaints  using  this  system  thinking  they  are  filing  a  complaint 
which  will  be  investigated  by  the  Department.  Notice  of  the  availability  of  this 
process  online  has  been  directed  chiefly  to  the  plaintiffs'  bar  and  there  is  a 
general  awareness  of  this  system  prior  to  them  visiting  the  Department's  Web 
site.  However,  a  link  to  the  automated  system  is  appropriate  for  the  "Right-to- 
Sue  Notice"  tab  to  explain  that  the  packet  may  be  completed  and  submitted 
online.  Addition  of  this  is  currently  underway. 


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14.  What  resources  are  available  to  non-English  speakers  through  your 
Web  site  or  elsewhere  regarding  the  activities  of  the  department? 

DFEH  publications  regarding  the  laws  the  Department  enforces  and  the  services 
it  provides  the  public  are  available  on  the  Department's  Internet  Web  site.  Most 
publications  are  available  in  Spanish  as  well  as  English.  Also  available  from  the 
Web  site  is  the  Department's  hate  violence  rights  and  remedies  fact  sheet  that  is 
published  in  Arabic,  Bengali,  English,  Farsi,  Gujarati,  Hindi,  Punjabi,  Sinhalese, 
Spanish  and  Urdu. 

The  Enforcement  Division  has  a  policy  directive  which  guides  staff  in  the 
procedures  for  providing  services  to  persons  who  are  Limited  English  Proficient 
(LEP).  When  making  appointments,  Communication  Center  staff  note  any  special 
language  needs,  and  this  information  is  automatically  sent  via  email  to  the 
appropriate  District  Office  informing  them  of  the  need  for  an  interpreter.  The 
District  Office  then  makes  arrangements  to  have  an  interpreter  available  using 
someone  within  the  Department  or  contracting  with  a  vendor.  This  same  option 
is  available  for  persons  making  appointments  through  the  Department's  Online 
Appointment  System.  Where  an  LEP  individual  presents  himself/herself  to  a 
District  Office,  staff  uses  a  "Language  Identification  Guide"  to  assist  in 
determining  the  language  spoken  by  the  individual.  Additionally,  in  the  lobby  of 
each  District  Office  is  a  "Notice  of  Interpreter  Services"  in  the  four  most 
commonly  used  languages  of  that  service  area.  This  informs  LEP  individuals 
that  they  may  request  an  interpreter,  and  also  presents  contact  information  for 
those  not  satisfied  with  the  interpreter  services  offered.  Similar  instructions  are 
provided  to  staff  ensuring  that  members  of  the  public  with  hearing,  speech,  and 
vision  impairments  are  provided  full  access  to  Department  services. 

MEDIATION 

The  department  received  $1  million  in  the  2000-01  budget  for  a  pilot 
program  to  handle  employment  discrimination  complaints  through 
mediation.  While  ongoing  funding  of  this  pilot  was  not  renewed  in 
subsequent  budgets,  the  previous  department  director  indicated  at  her 
confirmation  hearing  before  the  Senate  Rules  Committee  on  May  25,  2005, 
that  the  department  had  begun  to  re-implement  the  mediation  program.  A 
recent  visit  to  the  department's  Web  site  indicates  that  it  is  looking  for 
volunteer  mediators  to  serve  on  its  Northern  California  Volunteer  Mediation 
Program  Panel. 

15.  Please  update  the  committee  on  the  status  of  mediation  of 
employment  discrimination  complaints  as  an  alternative  to  investigations 
of  these  complaints  by  the  department. 

The  Department  has  maintained  a  Volunteer  Mediation  Program  for  employment 
discrimination  complaints  since  January  2006.  To  expand  its  current  Southern 


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Angeles  District  Office,  particularly  those  filed  by  low-income  and/or  mono-lingual 
Spanish  employees  and  applicants.  The  Department  also  has  expanded  its 
panel  of  Northern  California  volunteer  mediators  and  is  conducting  an  orientation 
for  new  panelists  on  January  12,  2009,  in  Oakland.  In  2008,  the  Department  also 
implemented  a  mediation  program  for  housing  discrimination  complaints. 


Please  let  me  know  if  I  can  answer  any  other  questions.  Thank  you. 
Sincerely, 


\J — 


Phyllis  W.  Cheng 
Director 


Enclosures: 

Appendix  A.  Director's  Speaking  Engagements  Summary  Log  2008. 
Appendix  B.  DFEH  Staff  Speaking  Engagements  &  Outreach  Events  2008. 
Appendix  C.  Updated  Form  700. 


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Senate  Rules  Committee 

JAN  0  6  2009 
SUBMITTED  JANUARY  6,  2009  Appointm 


SENATE  RULES  COMMITTEE 

CONFIRMATION  QUESTIONS 

CYNTHIA  D.  FLORES 


Statement  of  Goals 


What  are  your  goals  as  a  member  of  the  Lottery  Commission?  What  do  you 
hope  to  accomplish  during  your  term?  How  will  you  measure  your  success? 

My  goal  is  simple  -  to  assist  the  Lottery  in  increasing  revenues  so  that  California's 
education  system  can  benefit  from  an  increase  in  much  needed  funds.  This 
increase  in  funding  stream  to  education  will  also  serve  as  a  means  to  measure  my 
success  as  a  Commission  member.  To  accomplish  this,  I  will  continue  to  both 
substantively  review  and  benchmark  the  Lottery's  activities  against  the  foundation 
that  was  laid  out  in  the  strategic  Business  Plan.  As  the  Lottery  moves  forward,  only 
through  the  Commission's  diligent  oversight  and  review  can  the  Lottery  hope  to 
achieve  continued  success  in  long  term  planning,  maintaining  customer  satisfaction 
and  confidence,  improvement  of  brand  image,  increasing  prize  payouts,  and 
modernizing  operations. 

What  have  been  your  most  significant  accomplishments  as  a  member  of  the 
Lottery  Commission? 

One  of  my  most  significant  accomplishments  as  a  member  of  the  Lottery 
Commission  has  been  the  recent  establishment  of  an  Audit  Committee.  The  Audit 
Committee  will  play  a  critical  role  in  maintaining  an  ethical  environment  at  the 
Lottery,  as  well  as  assisting  in  maintaining  compliance  with  laws  and  regulations. 
In  addition,  an  Audit  Committee  can  assist  the  Commission  in  fulfilling  its  oversight 
responsibilities  for  (1 )  the  integrity  of  the  Commission's  financial  statements,  (2)  the 
company's  compliance  with  legal  and  regulatory  requirements,  (3)  the  independent 
auditor's  qualifications  and  independence,  and  (4)  the  performance  of  the 
company's  internal  audit  function  and  independent  auditors. 

Another  accomplishment  is  that  on  January  17,  2009,  we  are  airing  our  new  game 
show,  "Make  Me  A  Millionaire."  This  tremendous  achievement  required  many 
hours  and  a  huge  group  effort  from  nearly  every  corner  of  the  Lottery.  The  show  is 
a  highly  polished  and  first-rate. 

Over  the  last  year,  the  Lottery  grew  our  network  to  more  than  20,500  stores 
through  vigorous  recruitment  of  more  retailers  and  faster  processing  of  their 
applications.  Further,  we  successfully  completed  our  test  project  with  CVS  and  we 
reached  agreement  to  begin  service  with  their  network  of  over  350  pharmacies  in 
Southern  California. 


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At  the  Lottery,  I  am  proud  to  say  we  have  instilled  a  belief  that  it  is  not  simply  talk 
when  we  say  there  is  nothing  more  important  to  our  success  than  integrity  and 
maintaining  consumer  confidence.  To  this  end,  the  Commission  adopted  our  first- 
ever  Consumer  Protection  Strategic  Plan,  and  authorized  the  first  undercover  sting 
operation  in  North  America.  The  sting  focuses  on  the  criminal  theft  of  lottery  tickets 
from  customers.  The  500  operations  that  have  been  conducted  to  date  have  been 
extremely  successful,  and  have  resulted  in  multiple  criminal  prosecutions.  So 
much  so,  that  our  operations  have  been  chronicled  by  Dateline  NBC  for  a  story  to 
be  aired  in  the  coming  year. 

Finally,  the  Lottery  made  more  progress  than  ever  before  toward  amending  the 
Lottery  Act  to  allow  us  to  increase  prize  payouts.  Through  much  hard  work,  the 
Lottery  assisted  the  passage  of  Assembly  Bill  (AB)  1654.  This  was  the  result  of 
many  staff  working  together  providing  data  and  analysis  to  policymakers.  Although 
AB  1654  puts  prize  payouts  on  the  ballot  for  the  next  statewide  election,  this  is  a 
major  step  in  the  right  direction  for  both  the  Lottery  and  California. 


Securitization  of  the  Lottery 

The  2008  budget  package  includes  legislation  that,  if  approved  by  the  voters,  would 
authorize  the  California  State  Lottery  to  "securitize"  future  profits.  Under  the 
securitization  plan,  the  state  would  issue  bonds  backed  by  lottery  proceeds.  It  is 
estimated  that  bond  sales  would  raise  $5  billion  in  2009-10  and  $5  billion  in  2010-11. 
The  proposal  would  also  establish  a  Debt  Retirement  Fund  (DRF)  into  which  bond 
proceeds  would  be  deposited.  DRF  monies  could  be  used  by  the  Legislature  for  any 
General  Fund  budgetary  obligation. 

3.     Under  the  ballot  proposal,  there  are  technically  no  limits  on  the  amounts  that 
can  be  borrowed  against  lottery  proceeds.  What  steps  is  the  commission 
prepared  to  take  to  increase  revenues  if  the  plan  is  approved  by  voters  and 
additional  revenue  is  necessary? 

Allowing  the  Lottery  to  increase  prize  payouts  is  the  most  significant  revenue 
generator  in  Assembly  Bill  (AB)  1654.  If  approved  by  the  voters,  AB  1654  will  allow 
the  Lottery  to  increase  prize  payouts  by  increasing  the  percentage  of  revenue 
allocated  to  prizes,  allowing  the  Lottery  to  reinvest  interest  income  and  unclaimed 
prizes  into  prize  increases. 

Our  research  of  states  that  have  increased  prize  payouts  shows  that  maximizing 
profits  over  the  long  term  requires  a  gradual  increase  in  prize  payouts  rather  than  a 
dramatic  one-time  infusion.  Other  states'  experiences  also  indicate  that  we  need  to 


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carefully  monitor  prize  payout  levels  to  ensure  the  state  is  receiving  the  maximum 
return  from  this  strategy.  For  example,  it  is  possible  to  increase  prize  payout  levels 
to  a  point  where  profits  are  not  maximized,  i.e.  too  much  revenue  is  allocated  to 
prizes  to  the  detriment  of  bottom  line  profits. 

At  our  December  3,  2008,  Commission  meeting,  the  Commission  approved 
alternative  prize  structures  for  Scratchers  games  in  anticipation  of  voter  approval  of 
changes  to  the  Lottery  Act.  These  prize  structures  are  modeled  after  other  state 
lotteries  that  have  successfully  increased  prize  payouts  in  a  responsible  and 
sustainable  manner.  This  action  will  allow  us  to  begin  implementation  as  soon  as 
possible  after  voter  approval. 

Other  states'  experience  shows  that  profits  can  double  and,  in  certain 
circumstances,  even  triple  using  this  strategy  for  responsible,  sustainable  growth. 


Lottery  Performance 

One  of  the  underlying  issues  framing  recent  policy  discussions  about  the  lottery  has 
been  its  low  sales  per  capita  relative  to  other  states.  In  2005-06  lottery  sales  per  capita 
in  California  were  about  one-half  of  the  national  average. 

The  commission's  2007-10  business  plan  states  that  the  lottery's  history  of  short-term 
planning  is  holding  it  back,  and  that  the  organization  needs  significant  change  if  it  is 
going  to  survive  in  today's  marketplace.  The  plan  identifies  marketplace  options  such  as 
changing  the  payout  level  of  games  to  maximize  profits,  expanding  the  base  of  retail 
outlets,  and  breaking  into  the  multilane  retailers  such  as  Wal  Mart  and  Sears.  The  plan 
also  states  that  many  in  the  lottery  industry  believe  California  has  the  most  onerous 
restrictions  in  the  nation. 

4.     Regardless  of  whether  the  lottery  proposal  is  approved  by  the  voters,  what 
changes  are  you  planning  for  the  lottery  to  better  compete  in  the 
marketplace? 

In  2007,  the  Commission  adopted  a  long-term  business  plan  to  position  the  Lottery 
for  sustainable  growth  given  these  realities  and  even  without  changes  in  law.  The 
four  key  strategies  are  to  focus  on  long  term  planning,  improve  brand  image,  shift 
the  jackpot  paradigm,  and  modernize  operations. 

Long  term  planning  is  essential  because  the  Lottery  needs  fundamental  change  to 
survive  and  grow  in  today's  environment.  The  Lottery  previously  planned  one  year 
at  a  time,  which  only  served  to  perpetuate  existing  business  practices. 


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Consumer  product  businesses  such  as  the  Lottery  thrive  on  a  positive  brand  image 
to  grow  and  maintain  customer  loyalty.  Prime  examples  are  Starbucks  and  Coca 
Cola.  The  Lottery  has  not  paid  much  attention  to  its  brand  image  over  the  years. 
As  a  result,  consumers  constantly  ask  where  the  money  goes  and  why  no  one  wins 
the  Lottery  anymore.  A  recent  brand  audit  conducted  by  the  Lottery's  marketing 
vendor  confirmed  this.  It  is  important  for  the  Lottery  to  focus  on  improving  its  brand 
image  through  proactive  messaging  and  operating  transparently. 

Shifting  the  jackpot  paradigm  is  a  strategy  to  get  players  to  play  at  lower  jackpot 
levels  rather  than  waiting  for  the  $200  million  jackpots.  Achieving  this  will  increase 
sales  and  provide  sales  that  are  more  consistent.  Recently,  the  Lottery 
implemented  a  successful  campaign  that  asked,  "Isn't  any  jackpot  worth  playing 
for?"  This  campaign  increased  sales  at  lower  jackpot  levels  by  as  much  as  7%. 
The  Lottery  will  continue  exploring  different  ways  to  gamer  more  sales  at  lower 
jackpot  levels. 

Modernizing  operations  is  a  broad  category  that  involves  everything  from 
technology  to  business  models.  Our  accounting  systems  are  outdated  and  require 
manual  processing  and  redundancy.  Our  business  models  served  us  well  over  the 
last  two  decades  but  do  not  reflect  current  retail  needs  or  consumer  shopping 
trends.  Our  gaming  system  requires  months  of  advanced  planning  for  any 
changes.  To  take  efficient  and  effective  advantage  of  business  opportunities  as 
they  arise,  these  areas  require  updating. 

In  alignment  with  these  strategies,  the  Lottery  launched  a  new  TV  game  show  that 
replaces  the  Big  Spin  in  January  and  recently  signed  an  agreement  with  CVS 
Pharmacy  to  implement  an  innovative  business  model  in  350  of  its  stores. 

However,  without  voter  approval  of  the  statutory  changes  proposed  by  Assembly 
Bill  1654,  the  impact  of  each  of  these  efforts  will  undoubtedly  be  limited. 

5.     Under  current  law,  what  restrictions  prevent  the  lottery  from  maximizing  its 
revenues?  Will  you  be  proposing  legislation  to  address  any  such 
restrictions? 

Assembly  Bill  (AB)  1654  addresses  some  of  the  restrictions  that  prevent  the  Lottery 
from  maximizing  its  revenues,  including: 


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prize  payout  restrictions, 

inability  to  allocate  interest  income  and  unclaimed  prizes,  and 

inability  to  use  retained  earnings. 


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Unfortunately,  AB  1 654  directs  these  changes  to  be  put  to  a  vote  of  the  people  at 
the  next  statewide  election  before  the  Lottery  can  begin  to  implement  them. 

The  Business  Plan  discusses  four  additional  restrictions  that,  if  removed,  could 
generate  additional  sales.  They  are:  prohibitions  against  fixed  prizes,  technology 
restrictions,  ticket  dispenser  restrictions,  and  theme  restrictions. 


Problem  Gambling 

The  California  Research  Bureau  estimates  that  problem  and  pathological  gambling 
costs  the  state  $1  billion  a  year.  In  FY  2008-09  the  lottery  entered  into  an  interagency 
agreement  with  the  state  Office  of  Problem  Gambling  within  the  Department  of  Alcohol 
and  Drug  Programs  to  coordinate  problem  gambling  efforts 

The  lottery  ballot  proposal — if  approved  by  voters — would  provide  $1  million  annually 
from  the  lottery  for  problem  gambling.  The  proposal  would  allocate  this  funding  to  the 
Office  of  Problem  Gambling  and  require  the  office  to  report  to  the  commission  on  the 
effectiveness  of  problem  gambling  awareness  and  treatment  efforts. 

6.     How  is  the  commission  currently  coordinating  with  the  Office  of  Problem 
Gambling  under  the  interagency  agreement  for  problem  gambling  efforts? 
How  are  you  informed  of  Office  of  Problem  Gambling  activities? 

In  a  2007  hearing,  the  Senate  Governmental  Organization  Committee  made  it  clear 
that  problem-gambling  efforts  in  the  state  should  be  centralized  under  the 
Department  of  Alcohol  and  Drug  Programs  (DADP)  Office  of  Problem  Gambling 
(OPG).  To  that  end,  for  FY2008-09,  the  Lottery  committed  $250,000  to  OPG  to 
cover  the  cost  of  help-line  consolidation  and  provide  funding  for  local  assistance 
programs.  The  Lottery  has  committed  to  providing  OPG  with  an  additional  $60,000 
annually  for  ongoing  maintenance  of  effort.  This  collaborative  funding  model 
allows  the  professionally  trained  staff  at  OPG  to  more  broadly  administer  the 
programs  and  services  they  understand  to  benefit  Californians. 

The  Deputy  Director  responsible  for  the  Office  of  Problem  Gambling  (OPG) 
provides  regular  updates  to  the  Lottery  Commission  on  OPG  activities,  including 
updates  of  activities  planned  for  Problem  Gambling  Awareness  Week,  which  is 
traditionally  in  March  of  each  year. 

Additionally,  the  Lottery  receives  information  relative  to  OPG  activities  on  an 
ongoing  basis  as  a  representative  on  the  OPG  Advisory  Board.  OPG  maintains  the 
Advisory  Group  for  essential  input  as  the  Office  develops  services  and  updates  the 


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statewide  plan,  which  was  first  drafted  in  2006.  The  Advisory  Group  meets  three  to 
four  times  annually. 

What  level  of  oversight  do  you  believe  the  commission  should  have  over  the 
Office  of  Problem  Gambling's  expenditure  of  the  $1  million  if  the  ballot 
proposal  is  approved?  For  example,  will  the  commission  adopt  any  criteria 
that  it  will  apply  in  reviewing  the  report  from  the  Office  of  Problem  Gambling 
to  ensure  effective  use  of  the  $1  million?  If  so,  what  criteria? 

Following  guidance  provided  by  the  Senate  Governmental  Organization 
Committee,  the  Lottery  began  the  process  of  consolidating  problem  gambling 
efforts  in  the  state,  specifically  by  consolidating  the  existing  help-lines  to  the  current 
1-800-GAMBLER.  The  Lottery  subsequently  began  widespread  publication  of  this 
number  on  our  various  products,  signs,  terminals,  and  brochures,  and  was 
completed  in  the  Summer  of  2008.  In  FY2008-09,  the  Lottery  committed  $250,000 
to  OPG  to  cover  the  cost  of  the  consolidation  of  the  help-lines,  as  well  as  to  provide 
funding  for  other  prevention  efforts  statewide.  The  Lottery  has  committed  to 
providing  OPG  with  an  additional  $60,000  annually  for  ongoing  maintenance  of 
effort. 

The  $1  million  detailed  in  Assembly  Bill  1654,  should  it  be  approved  by  voters, 
should  be  monitored  and  maintained  in  much  the  same  fashion  as  the  existing 
monies  -  through  an  interagency  agreement  (IA)  between  the  Lottery  and  OPG. 
The  current  IA  requires  that  the  Lottery  be  provided  with  monthly  reports  and 
comprehensive  outcomes  studies  comprised  of  statistical  data  collected  from  calls 
fielded  on  the  help-line.  The  data  includes  but  is  not  limited  to  help-line  usage, 
broken  out  by  Lottery  and  non-Lottery  callers,  referral  source,  and  demographic 
information. 

As  more  information,  treatment  options,  and  monies  (tribal  and  card  room)  become 
available  in  California,  the  Lottery  is  committed  to  continue  to  collaborate  with  OPG 
to  address  opportunities  to  increase  awareness  of  the  issues  surrounding  problem 
and  pathological  gambling,  and  to  provide  essential  treatment  options.  OPG 
received  $5  million  and  two  PY's  in  FY2008-09  from  the  State  General  Fund  to 
address  needed  problem  gambling  treatment  issues  in  the  state. 

Additionally,  as  previously  stated,  the  Lottery  provides  oversight  and  guidance  to 
the  Office  of  Problem  Gambling's  (OPG)  as  a  member  of  the  OPG  Advisory  Board 
since  its  inception  in  late  2005.  In  addition,  the  Department  of  Alcohol  and  Drug 
Programs  Deputy  Director  responsible  for  OPG  has  provided  regular  updates  to 
the  Commission  on  OPG  activities;  the  activities  of  which  are  mandated  by  the 
Welfare  and  Institutions  Code. 


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This  guidance  and  participation  has  ensured  effective  and  efficient  collaboration 
between  the  Legislature,  Lottery,  and  OPG,  keeping  each  of  the  agencies  efforts  in 
concert  with  one  another,  as  well  as  the  other  stakeholders  statewide. 


Employee  Incentives 

AB  1654  (Committee  on  Budget,  Chapter  764,  Statutes  of  2008)  provides  express 
authority  for  the  Lottery  Commission  to,  among  other  things;  approve  lottery-related 
expenditures,  including  "employee  incentives."  A  $50,000  California  Lottery  employee- 
recognition  party  was  the  focus  of  a  state  Senate  hearing  and  State  Controller's  audit  in 
2008. 

8.     How  do  you  interpret  the  Commission's  authorization  regarding  "employee 
incentives"?  What  actions  have  been  taken  to  increase  scrutiny  of  such 
expenditures? 

The  Commission  took  action  at  our  May  20,  2008  commission  meeting  to  address 
employee  incentives  for  non-sales  staff.  At  this  meeting,  the  Commission  restricted 
employee  recognition  to  the  types  of  recognition  offered  by  other  state  agencies 
consistent  with  Department  of  Personnel  Administration  rules  and  guidelines. 
These  are  the  rules  and  guidelines  I  intend  to  enforce. 


Submitted  to: 

Nettie  Sabelhaus 
Appointments  Director 
Senate  Rules  Committee 
State  Capitol,  Room  420 
Sacramento,  CA  95814 


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STATE  OF  CALIFORNIA 


Arnold  Schwarzenegger,  Governor 


DEPARTMENT  OF  INDUSTRIAL  RELATIONS 
WORKERS"  COMPENSATION  APPEALS  BOARD 
455  Golden  Gale  Avenue,  9th  Floor 
San  Francisco,  CA  94102 
Telephone:  (415)  7034580 


MAILING  ADDRESS: 

P.O.  Box  429459 

San  Fnuvisco,  LA  94142-9459 


January  5,  2009 


Chairman  Darrell  Steinberg 
Senate  Rules  Committee 
State  Capitol  Room  420 
Sacramento,  CA  95814-4900 


Dear  Chairman  Steinberg: 

Thank  you  for  your  letter  of  Dec.  17,  2008  requesting  a  written  response  to  the  questions  which 
you  have  posed,  along  with  an  updated  Form  700.  Enclosed  herewith  please  find  my  responses, 
along  with  the  updated  Form  700.  Please  let  me  know  if  you  or  the  Rules  Committee  would  like 
any  additional  information. 

/.  Please  provide  a  brief  statement  of  your  goals  for  your  term  on  the  board.  What  do  you 
expect  to  accomplish?  How  wUlyou  measure  your  success? 

My  goals  as  a  Workers'  Compensation  Appeals  Board  Commissioner  are  to: 

1.  Render  fair  and  impartial  decisions  that  uphold  the  Constitutional 
mandate  to  provide  workers'  compensation  benefits  to  the  injured 
workers  of  this  state  in  an  expeditious  and  cost-efficient  manner; 

2.  Participate  in  en  banc  and  significant  panel  decisions  that  will 
provide  guidance  to  the  workers'  compensation  community  and 
that  will  ensure  that  the  workers'  compensation  system  functions 
in  a  manner  consistent  with  the  Constitutional  mandate; 

3.  Participate  in  formulating  regulations  to  implement  various 
provisions  of  the  Labor  Code  as  needed;  and 

4.  Assist  the  Chairperson  of  the  Appeals  Board  as  he/she  determines 
or  requires. 

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As  a  judicial  officer  whose  primary  responsibility  is  to  review  decisions  and  orders  from  the 
district  offices,  T  hope  lo  serve  the  workers'  compensation  system  with  distinction  by  providing 
clear,  well-reasoned  decisions  for  the  guidance  of  the  community.  My  success  will  be  measured 
by  whether  I  achieve  a  reputation  for  excellent,  impartial  decisions. 


As  a  commissioner,  how  does  your  role  in  deciding  cases  and  reviewing  petitions  for 
reconsideration  enable  you  to  identify  key  issues  impacting  the  workers'  compensation 
system?  What  are  the  benefits  of  circulating  these  decisions?  What,  if  any,  leadership  can 
a  commissioner  provide  when  issues  are  identified? 

Issues  which  are  important  to  the  workers*  compensation  community  and  thus  are 
the  subject  of  frequent  litigation,  are  identified  by  their  recurrence  in  the  petitions 
which  we  review.  Such  issues  are  also  identified  through  information  obtained  by 
talking  with  one  another,  with  workers'  compensation  judges  and  with  members 
of  the  workers'  compensation  community,  as  well  as  by  reading  various 
publications  devoted  to  workers'  compensation  issues  and  concerns. 

Commissioners  provide  leadership  to  the  workers1  compensation  community  by 
issuing  en  banc  and  significant  panel  decisions  to  clarify  areas  of  law  which  pose 
difficulties  and  litigation  potential,  and  by  speaking  at  educational  seminars  and 
conferences.  In  addition,  the  Appeals  Board  provides  leadership  by  writing  clear 
and  concise  regulations  governing  workers'  compensation  procedures. 


3.  The  board's  website  states  that  it  provides  "guidance  and  leadership"  to  the  workers 
compensation  community  through  case  opinions  and  regulations.  Should  the  board  look 
for  methods  to  enhance  dissemination  of  its  decisions  to  proved  guidance?  If  so,  how? 

In  addition  to  the  Appeals  Board's  website,  which  provides  the  full  text  of  all  en 
banc  and  significant  panel  decisions  of  the  Board,  there  are  numerous 
publications,  both  in  print  and  online,  to  disseminate  these  and  other  decisions.  In 
addition,  there  are  a  multitude  of  continuing  education  classes,  conventions, 
seminars  and  articles  available  to  the  inquiring  practitioner  to  supplement  and 
improve  his  or  her  knowledge  and  expertise.  Because  of  the  ready  availability  of 
these  resources,  there  doesn't  appear  to  be  a  need  for  additional  methods  to 
disseminate  these  decisions. 


4.  Based  upon  your  experience  hearing  cases  before  the  appeals  board,  what  are  the 
most  significant  issues  upon  which  the  board  has  issued  decisions  that  affect 
injured  workers? 

In  the  context  of  permanent  disability,  the  most  significant  Appeals  Board 

decision  since  I  began  at  the  Board  is  the  Boughner  73  Cal.Comp.Cases . 

(decision,  issued  in  June  of  this  year,  in  which  we  upheld  the  validity  of  the  2005 
Permanent  Disability  Rating  Schedule. 


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Prior  significant  en  banc  decisions  in  the  area  of  permanent  disability  have 
included: 

Escobedo,  (2005)  70  Cal.Comp.Cases  604,  which  upheld  the  new  law  on 
apportionment  under  Labor  Code  §4663  and  4664  and  clearly  articulated  that 
apportionment  to  pathology  and  other  factors,  which  was  impermissible  under  the 
former  statutes,  is  now  allowed  in  the  proper  circumstances,  and  which  set  forth 
the  standard  of  proof  defendants  must  meet  in  order  to  establish  apportionment  to 
nonindustrial  causes; 

Nahors,  (2005)  70  Cal.Comp.Cases  856,  which  held  that  the  proper  determination 
of  permanent  disability  after  apportionment  is  to  calculate  the  overall  percentage 
of  permanent  disability,  and  then  to  subtract  the  percentage  of  permanent 
disability  caused  by  other  factors  under  Labor  Code  §4663,  or  a  prior  award  under 
Labor  Code  §4664,  leaving  the  percentage  of  industrial  disability  for  which 
indemnity  is  payable; 

Sanchez,  (2005)  70  Cal.Comp.Cases  1440,  and  Strong,  (2005)  70 
Cal.Comp.Cases  1460,  which  provided  that  a  prior  permanent  disability  award 
will  be  conclusively  presumed  to  exist  and  that  defendant  has  the  burden  of  proof 
as  to  the  award's  existence  and  the  overlap  between  the  prior  award  and  the 
disability  or  impairment  resulting  from  the  subsequent  injury; 

Pasquollo,  (2006)  71  Cal.Comp.Cases  223,  which  held  that  an  Order  Approving  a 
Compromise  and  Release,  without  more,  is  not  a  "prior  award"  within  the 
meaning  of  Labor  Code  §4664(b); 

AldL  (2006)  71  Cal.Comp.Cases  783,  Baglione  II,  (2007)  72  Cal.Comp.Cases 
444,  and  Pendergrass  II,  (2007)  72  Cal.Comp.Cases  456  which  held  that  the  new 
2005  Permanent  Disability  Rating  Schedule  applies  to  injuries  occurring  before 
Jan.  1,  2005  unless  one  of  the  exceptions  outlined  in  Labor  Code  §4660(d)  is 
present.  Those  exceptions  include  a  pre-2005  comprehensive  medical- legal 
report,  or  a  pre-2005  treating  physician's  report  which  indicates  the  existence  of 
permanent  disability,  and/or  where  the  duty  to  send  out  notice  pursuant  to  Labor 
Code  §4061  arises  before  Jan.  1,  2005; 

Costa  I,  (2006)  71  Cal.Comp.Cases  1977,  and  Cost  II.  (2007)  72  Cal.Comp.Cases 
1492,  which  held  that  the  2005  Permanent  Disability  Rating  Schedule  is 
rebuttable  under  Labor  Code  §4660;  and 

Benson.  (2007)  72  Cal.Comp.Cases  1620,  which  held  that  the  former  Wilkinson 
{Wilkinson  v.  WCAB  (1977)19  Cal.3d  491)  doctrine  generally  no  longer  applies 
to  multiple  injuries,  and  that  a  separate  permanent  disability  award  must  be  made 
for  each  injury  rather  than  one,  larger  award  which  combines  the  disabilities. 
[This  case  is  currently  pending  before  the  First  District  Court  of  Appeal,  which 
heard  oral  arguments  in  late  2008.] 


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In  areas  other  than  permanent  disability,  there  have  been  significant  decisions 
since  the  passage  of  SB  899  that  have  interpreted  Labor  Code  §4656  and  the  two- 
year  limitation  of  temporary  disability  [Hawkins,  (2007)  72  Cal.Comp. Cases  807, 
Cruz,  (2007)72  Cal.Comp.Cases  12817;  the  provisions  of  Labor  Code  §4600  and 
the  Medical  Provider  Networks  [Knight,  (2006)  71  Cal.Comp.Cases  1423, 
Babbitt,  (2007)72  Cal.Comp.Cases  707;  calculation  of  penalties  and  attorneys' 
fees  under  Labor  Code  §58 14(a)  and  5814.5;  [Ramirez  (2008)  73  CCC  1324  and 
Abney  (2(X)4)  69  CCC  1552],  and  utilization  review  procedures  under  Labor  Code 
§4610  [Simmons  (2005)  70  CCC  866].  This  is  not  intended  to  be  an  exhaustive 
list,  but  to  illustrate  some  of  the  more  recent,  significant  decisions  of  the  Appeals 
Board. 


Do  you  believe  the  reduction  in  permanent  disability  benefits  has  impacted  litigation?  If 
so,  how? 

The  new  laws  regarding  permanent  disability  and  apportionment  seem  to  have 
reduced  litigation  for  a  number  of  reasons.  It  appears  that  the  parties  arc  now  able 
to  resolve  more  cases  informally  without  the  necessity  for  litigation  before  the 
Board.  Where  injuries  are  promptly  reported  and  employers/carriers  have  an 
efficient  adjusting  system,  injured  workers  are  usually  receiving  the  treatment 
they  need  to  minimize  the  effects  of  the  injury  and  to  return  to  work,  with 
modifications  if  necessary,  as  quickly  as  possible,  with  resolution  of  the 
permanent  disability  in  a  timely  and  satisfactory  matter. 

The  addition  of  the  American  Medical  Association's  Guides  to  the  Evaluation  of 
Pertnanent  Impairment,  5th  Edition  as  the  basis  for  the  determination  of 
permanent  disability,  along  with  the  new  2005  Permanent  Disability  Rating 
Schedule,  has  resulted  in  additional  litigation  in  some  areas.  The  Guides  are 
sometimes  difficult  for  physicians  to  use  and  for  parties  to  understand,  and  this 
creates  a  need  for  doctors'  depositions  and/or  requests  for  supplemental  reports  in 
some  cases.  In  addition,  there  have  been  challenges  to  the  use  of  the  Guides,  and 
to  the  application  of  the  diminished  future  earning  capacily  factors  contained  in 
the  2005  Permanent  Disability  Rating  Schedule.  As  these  issues  are  pending 
before  the  Appeals  Board  at  this  time,  I  cannot  make  further  comment  here. 


6.      What  impact  do  you  believe  the  reduction  in  permanent  disability  benefits  has  had  on 
injured  workers  ? 

Many  injured  workers  are  experiencing  a  reduction  in  permanent  disability  as 
compared  to  the  permanent  disability  rating  schedule  in  effect  before  SB  899. 
While  some  injured  workers  have  experienced  financial  hardship  because  of 
lower  permanent  disability  benefits,  many  have  benefitted  from  receiving  prompt 
medical  treatment,  early  return  to  work,  and  a  prompt  resolution  of  their 
permanent  disability  and  future  medical  entitlements. 


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7.  Please  give  us  your  interpretation  of  Labor  Code  Section  3202  which  states  "This  division 
and  Division  5  (commencing  with  Section  6300)  shall  be  liberally  construed  by  the  courts 
with  the  purpose  of  extending  their  benefits  for  the  protection  of  persons  injured  in  the 
course  of  their  employment." 

Labor  Code  §3202  requires  that  the  law  in  workers'  compensation  cases  should  be 
viewed  and  interpreted  in  the  light  most  favorable  to  the  applicant.  Thus,  where  a 
given  statute  is  capable  of  two  equally-plausible  interpretations,  the  interpretation 
which  extends  the  most  benefits  and/or  rights  to  the  injured  worker  should  be 
implemented,  consistent  with  legislative  intent. 

Labor  Code  §3202  must  be  construed  with  Labor  Code  §3202.5,  which  requires 
that  all  parties  prove  the  necessary  elements  for  the  relief  they  seek  by  a 
preponderance  of  the  evidence. 


8.  Are  there  steps  that  could  be  taken  to  make  WCAB  work  more  efficiently?  Is  the  current 
staffing  of  WCAB  adequate,  and  how  are  workload  fluctuations  managed? 

The  seven-member  Appeals  Board,  which  exercises  all  judicial  powers  vested  in 
it  by  the  Labor  Code,  is  functioning  well  based  on  my  experience  for  the  past  11 
months.  The  number  of  cases  reviewed  by  the  Board  depends  entirely  on  the 
number  of  trials  held  at  the  district  level  and  on  whether  one  of  the  parties  wishes 
to  challenge  the  Workers'  Compensation  Judge's  determination  by  filing  the 
appropriate  petition.  Petitions  are  assigned  by  the  Chairman,  on  a  rotating  and 
random  basis,  to  panels  of  three  commissioners  for  decision.  The  Appeals  Board 
is  able  to  review  the  cases  which  come  before  it  and  to  issue  decisions  in  a  timely 
fashion. 

The  efficient  functioning  of  the  workers  compensation  system  as  a  whole, 
including  the  management  of  the  workload,  staffing  and  other  administrative 
concerns,  is  the  responsibility  of  the  Director  of  the  Department  of  Industrial 
Relations  and  his  or  her  staff,  including  the  Administrative  Director  of  the 
Division  of  Workers'  Compensation  and  the  Court  Administrator.  The  seven- 
member  Appeals  Board  is  not  involved  in  these  administrative  functions. 

I  trust  that  these  answers  will  be  of  help  to  the  Rules  Committee  in  considering  my 
appointment  to  the  Appeals  Board.  Please  let  me  know  if  I  can  provide  any  additional 
information.  I  look  forward  to  meeting  with  you  at  the  confirmation  hearing  scheduled 
for  Wednesday,  January  28,  2009  at  1:30PM. 


Very  truly  yours, 


Deidra  E.  Lowe 


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