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Proceedings   1 

Governor's   Appointees: 

JACK    E.   GARNER,    Member,    Board    of   Parole 

Hearings    2 

OPENING     STATEMENT    BY    JACK     E.    GARNER 


Questions    by    CHAIRMAN     STEINBERG    re: 

Legal  standard    for   granting 
parole    6 

I  n  t  e  r  p  r  e  t  a  t  io  n  /  v  ie  w    of 

"present   danger    but   minimal"    


Questions    by    SENATOR    OROPEZA    re 
Battered    woman    syndrome    


Impact  of  reduction    of 
rehabilitative    services    . 


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Witness   in    SupportofJACK    E.   GARNER 
MARC    NORTON,    Defense    Attorney    


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Witness    in    Opposition    to    JACK    E.    GARNER: 

DAVID    WARREN,    Taxpayers    for    Improving    Public 
S  a  fety    14 


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APPEARANCES 
MEMPERS    PRESENT 

SENATOR  DARRELL    STEINBERG,    Chair 

SENATOR  GIL    CEDILLO 

SENATOR  SAMUEL    AANESTAD 

SENATOR  ROBERT    DUTTON 

SENATOR  JENNY    OROPEZA 

STAFF    PRESENT 

GREG    SCHMIDT,    Executive    Officer 
JANE    LEONARD    BROWN,    Committee    Assistant 
NETTIE    SABELHAUS,    Appointments    Consultant 
TERESA    ACUNA,    Assistant    to    SENATOR    CEDILLO 
BILL    BAILEY,    Assistant    to    SENATOR    AANESTAD 
CHRIS    8URNS,    Assistant   to    SENATOR    DUTTON 
BRENDAN     HUGHES,    Assistant    to    SENATOR    OROPEZA 

ALSO    PRESENT 

JACK    E.    GARNER,    Member,    Board    of   Parole    Hearings 
MICHAEL    F.    PRIZMICH,    Member,    Board    of   Parole    Hearings 


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MICHAEL    F.    PRIZMICH,    Member,    Board    of   Parole 
Hearings    18 

OPENING     STATEMENT    BY    MICHAEL    F.    PRIZMICH     ... 

Questions    by    CHAIRMAN    STEINBERG    re: 

"Present   risk"    versus    "unreasonable 
risk"    19 

Training    19 

Questions    by    SENATOR    DUTTON    re: 

Psychological  evaluations/risk 
fa  cto  rs    2  1 

Dog    2  3 

Witness    in    Support   of   MICHAEL    F.    PRIZMICH: 
MARC    NORTON,    Defense    Attorney    30 

Witnesses    in    Opposition    to    MICHAEL    F.    PRIZMICH: 

PEGGY    HERNANDEZ,    Spouse    of   Life -Term     Inmate    . 

DAVID    WARREN,    Taxpayers    for    Improving    Public 
S  a  fety    2  8 


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Vote-Only    Item     re    Confirmation    of: 

ADAM     B.    HUBBARD,    Member,    California    Arts 
Council    33 

ROBERT    T.    DOYLE,    Member,    Commission    of 
Peace    Officer   Standards    and    Training    33 

BONNIE    M.    DUMANIS,    Member,    Commission    of 
Peace    Officer   Standards    and    Training    33 


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Vote-Only  Item  re  Confirmation  of: 

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All  right.    Moved  by  Senator  Aanestad. 

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JEFFREY  A.  LUNDGREN,  Member,  Commission  of 
Peace  Officer  Standards  and  Training  33 

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Please  call  the  roll  on  the  reference  of  bills. 
MS.  BROWN:    Senator  Cedillo. 

LAURIE  R.  SMITH,  Member,  Commission  of  Peace 
Officer  Standards  and  Training  33 

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SENATOR  CEDILLO:    Aye. 
MS.  BROWN:    Cedillo  aye. 

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Dutton. 

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SENATOR  DUTTON:    Aye. 
MS.  BROWN:    Dutton  aye. 

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Proceedings  Adjourned  34 

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Oropeza. 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Aye. 

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Certificate  of  Reporter 35 

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MS.  BROWN:    Oropeza  aye. 
Aanestad. 

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SENATOR  AANESTAD:    Aye. 

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Steinberg. 

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CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Aye. 

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MS.  BROWN:    Steinberg  aye. 

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CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    All  right.    We  move  to 

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file  item  two.   There  are  two  gubernatorial  appointees 

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who  are  required  to  appear  today,  Jack  E.  Garner  and 

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Michael  F.  Prizmich,  as  members  of  the  Board  of  Parole 

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Hearings. 

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I'd  ask  —  Well,  we're  going  to  do  them  one  at 

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a  time  like  we  did  last  week. 

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Mr.  Garner  could  come  up  first.   Appreciate  it. 

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PROCEEDINGS 

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MR.  GARNER:    Good  afternoon. 

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CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    The  Senate  Committee  on 

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CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Good  afternoon,  sir.   How 

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Rules  will  come  to  order. 

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are  you?   Welcome. 

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Please  call  the  roll. 

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MR.  GARNER:    Thank  you. 

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MS.  BROWN:    Senator  Cedillo. 

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CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    As  part  of  our  Rules 

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SENATOR  CEDILLO:    Here. 

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Committee  tradition,  we  always  want  to  give  the  nominee 

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MS.  BROWN:    Cedillo  here. 

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an  opportunity  to  introduce  his  or  her  family,  or  any 

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Dutton. 

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special  guest  in  the  audience.    Please  do  so. 

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SENATOR  DUTTON:    Here. 

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MR.  GARNER:    Very  good.   Thank  you  for  the 

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MS.  BROWN:    Dutton  here. 

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opportunity.    I  would  like  to  introduce  my  wife, 

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Oropeza. 

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Diana  Garner.    She's  in  the  audience.    She  was  here  last 

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Aanestad. 

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time.    Thank  you. 

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Steinberg. 

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CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Welcome  to  you.    Good  to 

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CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Here. 

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see  you.    All  right. 

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MS.  BROWN:    Steinberg  here. 

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Mr.  Garner,  you're  up  for  this  important 

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CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you.    If  we  can -- I 

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position  here.    Would  you  like  to  begin  with  an  opening 

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just  want  to  make  sure  that  the  sergeants  on  the  floor 

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statement? 

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let  Senator  Oropeza  and  Senator  Aanestad  know  --  There's 

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MR.  GARNER:    Yes,  sir.    I  would. 

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Senator  Aanestad.    Okay.   And  Senator  Oropeza  is  coming. 

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CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Good. 

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SERGEANT  LOPEZ:    I  informed  them. 

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MR.  GARNER:    Ready  to  proceed' 

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CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    We  have  a  quorum,  and  a 

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CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Yes.    Go,  go. 

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full  membership  is  now  present. 

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MR.  GARNER:    First  of  all,  I'd  like  to  say  good 

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If  we  may  begin  with  file  item  one,  which  is 

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afternoon  to  everyone  and  confirm  that  I  am  Jack  Garner. 

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reference  of  bills.    Are  there  any  issues  regarding 

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I'm  here  as  a  governor's  appointee  to  the  Parole  Board. 

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reference  of  bills? 

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Grateful  for  the  opportunity  to  appear  before  you  today, 

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Mr.  Chairman,  Members  of  the  Senate  Rules  Committee. 

A  little  background.    Essentially,  my  entire 
life  has  been  in  the  area  of  public  service  from  the 
time  I  was  21  years  of  age  until  the  age  that  I  am 
today,  which  very  shortly  will  be  Medicare-eligible  age 
in  about  23  days. 

During  my  term  on  the  board,  I  have  been 
assigned  over  2,000  cases,  have  handled  the  vast 
majority  of  the  cases.    Each  case,  of  course,  is 
challenging,  interesting.   There's  never  a  dull  moment 
when  you  are  working  on  the  board. 

It  does  afford  you,  occasionally,  opportunities 
to  develop  --  I  won't  call  it  a  personal  relationship, 
but  to  at  least  acknowledge  the  human  side  of  what  we 
do,  and  that  is  to  reach  out  and  help  somebody  that  you 
see  that's  in  need  of  help. 

At  a  particular  occasion  with  a  rather  sad  case 
of  an  individual  that  obviously  had  an  extreme  hearing 
difficulty  to  the  point  where  he  couldn't  even 
understand  the  proceedings.   A  quick  call  to  the  on-site 
Americans  with  Disabilities  Act  coordinator  for  the 
institution  resulted  in  a  positive  outcome.   They 
acknowledged  that  there  had  been  an  omission  and  an 
error  in  some  of  the  paperwork  that's  done  to 
acknowledge  these  sorts  of  issues,  and  that  the 


1  same  position,  and  we  asked  a  question  that  I  want  to 

2  ask  you  about,  a  very  important  question,  as  to  what  you 

3  believe  the  legal  standard  to  be  for  the  granting  of 

4  parole. 

5  In  reviewing  some  of  the  transcripts  of  the 

6  cases  you  have  presided  over,  the  standard  phrase  you 

7  use  is  whether  or  not  the  inmate  poses,  quote,  "a 

8  present  risk  of  danger."   And  yet  Title  15  of  the  Code 

9  of  Regulations  says  that  you  "...  deny  parole  if,  in  the 

10  judgment  of  the  panel,  the  prisoner  will  pose  an 

1 1  unreasonable  risk  of  danger  to  society  if  released. " 

12  How  do  you  reconcile  those  two? 

13  MR.  GARNER:    Well,  up  until  the  passage  of 

14  Proposition  9,  the  second  example  you  gave  was  the 

15  standard,  the  unreasonable  risk  of  danger. 

16  The  passage  of  Proposition  9  did  slightly 

17  modify  it  since  as  a  result  of  the  Lawrence  and  Shaputis 

18  case,  we're  now  charged  with  also  making  an  assessment 

19  with  respect  to  their  current  risk  of  danger  if 

20  released,  and  that  risk,  of  course,  would  be  to  the 

21  community  and  to  the  society. 

22  So  it's  a  process  of  evolution  that's  actually 

23  occurred  since  I've  been  on  the  board. 

24  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    I'd  like  to  understand, 

25  because  these  are  legal  terms  in  a  way,  but  how  one 

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individual  is  going  to  be  scheduled  to  get  a  hearing 
aid,  which  certainly  not  only  would  facilitate  his 
participation  in  the  hearing  but  would  make  his 
day-to-day  life  while  in  custody  certainly  a  lot  more 
bearable,  being  able  to  hear. 

During  my  time  as  a  commissioner,  I  feel  that 
I've  done  my  best  to  establish  a  reputation  for  being 
fair  and  impartial.   It's  oftentimes  a  matter  in  the  eye 
of  the  beholder,  but  it's  certainly  been  my  intent  to  do 
that.    It's  also  been  my  intent,  wherever  possible,  to 
make  the  hearing  as  relaxed  as  I  can.    I  certainly 
recognize  it's  a  very  stressful  hearing  for  the  people 
that  are  coming  before  us,  and  doing  what  we  can  to 
relieve  some  of  that  tension,  often  including  just 
giving  them  a  break  if  they  appear  to  be  in  such  a 
manner  that  they're  not  able  to  present  themselves. 
Just  a  moment  to  step  outside,  get  a  drink  of  water  has 
oftentimes  been  very  beneficial. 

So,  again,  I  do  appreciate  the  opportunity  to 
serve  as  a  commissioner.    I'm  here  today  to  answer  any 
questions  that  you  may  have  and,  again,  look  forward  to 
participating  in  today's  proceedings. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you,  Mr.  Garner.    We 
do  have  some  questions,  and  I  will  begin. 

Last  week  we  heard  a  number  of  nominees  for  the 

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1  interprets  them  is  important,  because  an  individual 

2  could  be  a  present  risk  of  danger  but  be  a  minimal  risk 

3  of  danger.    If  —  how  do  you  —  How  would  you  view  that 

4  fact  scenario?   Present  danger  but  minimal. 

5  MR.  GARNER:    We,  of  course,  take  into 

6  consideration  the  totality  of  the  information  that's 

7  before  us.   The  one  example,  of  course,  is  we  do  have 

8  the  psychological  exams  that  give  us  a  clinician's 

9  observation.   And,  typically,  for  the  people  that  are 

10  approaching  readiness  for  suitability  is  the 

11  determination  from  the  clinician  that  they  represent 

12  either  a  low  or  a  very  low  risk  of  danger  to  society. 

13  That  plays  into  all  the  other  considerations  that  we 

14  entertain  at  the  time  we're  making  our  decision,  their 

15  institutional  programming,  their  discipline  history. 

16  These  are  all  factors  that  play  exactly  into  the 

17  question  you're  asking. 

18  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Maybe  I  can  ask  it  a 

19  little  different  way. 

20  MR.  GARNER:    Okay. 

21  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Have  you  seen  fact 

22  situations  where  someone  was,  in  fact,  a  present  risk  of 

23  danger  but  not  an  unreasonable  risk  of  danger? 

24  MR.  GARNER:    I  don't  believe  I've  seen  that  set 

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1  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Can  you  imagine  that  set 

2  of  circumstances?   I  mean,  can  you  conceive  of  a 

3  situation  where  someone  would  be  a  present  risk?   But, 

4  again,  I'm  not  qualifying  it  by  what  degree  of  risk.    Do 

5  you  understand  what  I'm  trying  to  get  at? 

6  MR.  GARNER:    I  think  I  see  where  you're  going. 

7  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    It's  not  semantics.    It's 

8  just  --  You  could  argue  that  everyone  is  at  some  risk  of 

9  being  dangerous,  especially  someone  who's  been  sentenced 

10  to  life  in  prison.    Let's  stipulate  everybody  is  a 

11  present  risk  of  danger.   So  then  what?   Is  it  an 

12  unreasonable  risk  of  danger,  or  is  it  any  risk  of 

13  danger? 

14  MR.  GARNER:    Taking  the  illustration,  we  could 

15  have  an  individual  that  you  described  that  does  have  a 

16  present  risk  of  danger  that's  been  determined  to  be  low. 

17  Under  those  circumstances,  I  would  not  find  that  to  be 

18  an  unreasonable  risk,  because  we  pretty  much  concluded 

19  everyone  has  the  potential  to  be  a  risk. 

20  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    And  you  would  grant  that 

21  person  parole  given  -- 

22  MR.  GARNER:    All  the  other  considerations. 

23  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    -- all  the  other 

24  considerations. 

25  MR.  GARNER:    Yes. 

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1  We,  of  course,  receive  training  in  this.   We've 

2  also  received  training  materials.   We've  received  sample 

3  questions  we  can  ask  going  to  the  different  points, 

4  going  to  the  elements  in  the  different  types  of  abuse 

5  the  person  may  have  sustained  over  the  history  of  the 

6  relationship  with  the  batterer. 

7  So  by  probing  on  those  particular  questions,  we 

8  also  have  the  opportunity  --  Oftentimes,  there's  been  a 

9  request  for  a  very  detailed  investigation  that  will  go 

10  into  very  great  lengths  to  determine  all  of  the  factors 

11  that  went  into  the  particular  claim  that's  been  made  as 

12  to  whether  it's  verified,  partially  verified,  or  not. 

13  Those  are  the  particular  findings. 

14  SENATOR  OROPEZA:   And  how  do  you  factor 

15  those  —  that  information  into  your  decisions?   How  does 

16  that  affect  the  outcomes? 

17  MR.  GARNER:    I  guess  an  easy  answer  for  me 

18  would  be  that  I  would  give  it  appropriate  weight.   If  it 

19  was  very,  let's  say,  overwhelming  and  very  conclusive, 

20  then  that  would  be  a  significant  factor  for  me  to 

21  consider.   If  it  was  one  where  it  was  minimally 

22  sustained  and  may  not  have  been  completely  addressed, 

23  then  I  would  have  to  either  reach  a  greater  level  of 

24  satisfaction  by  asking  more  questions,  but  at  some  point 

25  I  would  just  have  to  take  the  information  that  is  before 

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1  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Okay.    Well,  that's  pretty 

2  clear. 

3  MR.  GARNER:    Thank  you. 

4  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Okay.    Questions  from 

5  other  members.    Senator  Oropeza. 

6  SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Hi.   Thank  you  for  being  with 

7  us  today.    I'd  like  to  talk  to  you  about  two  matters. 

8  One  has  to  do  with  a  very  particular  condition  that  the 

9  individuals  may  come  to  you  with,  and  that's  battered 

10  woman  syndrome. 

11  How  —  How  do  you  factor  into  your 

12  considerations,  given  that  within  Title  15  of  the  code 

13  it's  clearly  necessary  for  you  to  do  so  --  how  do  you 

14  deal  with  the  issue  of  battered  woman  syndrome?   How  do 

15  you  determine;  how  do  you  factor  that  into  your 

16  decisions;  what  role  does  it  play  in  the  overall 

17  outcomes  from  the  hearings? 

18  MR.  GARNER:    Very  good.    I  think  I  understand. 

19  The  present  situation,  of  course,  is  that  we 

20  now  define  that  as  intimate  partner  battery,  although  I 

21  have  yet  to  have  a  male  inmate  that  has  made  that 

22  assertion. 

23  Typically,  this  is  a  finding  that  is  present 

24  when  you  are  in  one  of  --  for  my  case,  in  one  of  the  two 

25  women's  prisons. 

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1  me  and  make  the  best  decision  possible. 

2  SENATOR  OROPEZA:    How  do  you  become  aware  -• 

3  How  do  you  become  aware,  as  a  hearing  officer,  that  a 

4  given  inmate  suffers  from  this  syndrome  or  has 

5  potentially  suffered  from  this? 

6  MR.  GARNER:    Number  of  sources  would  be  that  if 

7  there's  been  a  previous  request  for  investigation,  that 

8  of  course  would  come  out  very  quickly.    It's  a  factor 

9  and  consideration  that  the  clinician  also  addresses  at 

10  the  time  he  or  she  completes  the  psychological 

11  evaluation. 

12  And,  again,  there  is  the  opportunity,  if 

13  there's  the  slightest  doubt,  to  go  to  the  battery  of 

14  questions  that  we've  been  provided  that  were  a 

15  by-product  of  the  training  sessions  that  -- 

16  SENATOR  OROPEZA:    And  those  were  developed  by 

17  the  psychological  folks7 

18  MR.  GARNER:   They  are  a  combination  of  the 

19  psychological,  and  also  we  have  a  number  of  experts  that 

20  assist  the  board. 

21  SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Specifically  on  battered 

22  women? 

23  MR.  GARNER:    On  this  issue,  I  recall  a 

24  Dr.  Balker,  I  believe,  being  one  of  the  experts  that  has 

25  assisted  the  board  in  this  particular  training  and  also 

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the  development  of  materials. 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    In  the  course  of  your 
experience,  have  you  ever  found  that  battered  woman 
syndrome  was  the  tipping  of  the  balance  in  terms  of 
actually  giving  someone  parole? 

MR.  GARNER:    No. 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    No.    Okay. 

And  then  the  second  line  of  questioning  relates 
to  our  fiscal  situation  and  what  we're  looking  at  not 
only  this  year,  but  next  year.   As  you're  probably 
aware,  this  year's  cuts  are  about  790  million  this  year, 
and  915  million  specifically  from  rehabilitative 
services  within  CDCR.   And  so  --  And  those 
rehabilitative  services  are  --  would  include  things  like 
substance  abuse,  education  programs,  vocational 
training,  the  kinds  of  things  that  help  prepare  people 
for  parole. 

So  I'm  not  asking  you  for  your  position  on 
those,  but  what  I  would  like  to  ask  you  is  how  you  think 
those  reductions  will  impact  your  work  in  what  you  see 
and  --  well,  let  me  just  leave  it  there. 

MR.  GARNER:    I  think  the  impact  that  it's  going 
to  have  on  all  of  the  commissioners,  of  course,  is  in 
the  area  of  dealing  with  the  readiness  of  the  people 
that  are  coming  before  us,  because  the  programming  is 

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1  opportunity  to  be  involved  in. 

2  I  know  --  I  do  it  and  I  know  other 

3  commissioners  have  also  done  it.   We  certainly  encourage 

4  people  during  these  --  we  call  them  the  times  when  there 

5  are  institutional  issues  that  preclude  the  type  of 

6  programming  that  we  like  —  not  to  allow  this  to  impact 

7  them  by  doing  alternatives,  such  as  self-study,  that 

8  they  can  document. 

9  We're  finding  a  lot  of  the  inmates  are 

10  developing  their  own  study  groups.   They're  developing 

11  their  own  groups  on  the  yard  to  work  the  steps  with  each 

12  other,  because  the  essence  of  the  programming  isn't  as 

13  much  that  they  bring  the  certificates  in.   It's  when  we 

14  question  them,  that  they're  able  to  articulate  any 

15  benefit  and  value. 

16  For  example,  someone  that  says  they've  been 

17  going  to  substance  abuse  programming  such  as  AA  or  NA 

18  for  20  years  consecutively,  and  we  ask  them  a  step  and 

19  they  can't  tell  us,  it  does  call  into  questioning 

20  whether  they're  going  there  for  cookies  and  milk  or 

21  actually  to  get  something  out  of  the  program. 

22  SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Well,  thank  you  very  much.   I 

23  appreciate  your  answers. 

24  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Other  Members? 

25  Are  there  members  of  the  public  who  want  to 

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such  an  essential  component.   That's  essentially  what  we 
hammer  from  the  time  they  have  their  --  what's  called  a 
document  hearing,  which  is  a  prelude  to  the  actual  full 
hearing  with  the  commissioner.    The  issue  of  programming 
is  hammered  exclusively,  the  programming  around  getting 
vocational  skills,  programming  around  self-help,  albeit 
for  substance-abuse  issues,  anger-management  issues,  but 
all  the  things  that  we  do  very  positively  when  someone 
comes  before  us. 

We  actually  had  a  preview  of  this  with  respect 
to  a  lot  of  the  programming  that  had  to  be  curtailed 
during  the  budget  impasse.   There  essentially  was  no 
money,  and  the  programs  were  shut  down.   And  our  best 
source  for  program  information  is,  nine  times  out  of 
ten,  the  inmates  when  they  come  before  us  who  tell  us 
that  the  programs  have  been  curtailed. 

So  anything  that  occurs  as  a  result  of  economic 
circumstances  or  otherwise  I  feel  is  going  to  have  a 
direct  impact  on  not  only  the  readiness  for  parole,  but 
I  also  think  that  potentially  there  are  a  number  of  just 
institutional  issues  that  are  going  to  be  important  for 
the  various  institutions  to  consider.   And  a  lot  of  that 
is  some  of  the  frustration,  because  these  programs  also 
provide  a  very  viable  outlet  for  sometimes  the  closest 
thing  to  socialization  that  the  inmates  will  have  the 

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1  come  up  to  testify  either  in  support  or  opposition  of 

2  Mr.  Garner?   Come  on  up. 

3  MR.  WARREN:    Good  afternoon.    My  name  is  David 

4  Warren.   I'm  appearing  on  behalf  of  Taxpayers  for 

5  Improving  Public  Safety,  and  we're  appearing  in 

6  opposition  to  the  nomination.    We've  submitted  a  letter 

7  which  details,  essentially,  the  contents  of  our 

8  opposition. 

9  Like  you,  I've  read  a  number  of  transcripts, 

10  and  I  feel  that  member  --  the  nominee  has  a 

11  predisposition  to  attempt  to  find  Shaputis  reasons  to 

12  deny  parole  rather  than  -- 

13  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Explain  that,  please, 

14  "Shaputis,"  for  the  record. 

15  MR.  WARREN:    There  are  two  parallel  Supreme 

16  Court  decisions.    One  was  Davis  Lawrence,  which  sets  the 

17  standard  for  granting  parole,  and  Shaputis,  which 

18  provided  guidelines  to  deny  parole.   And  specifically, 

19  in  Shaputis,  the  court  found  that  the  person  had  not 

20  fully  reflected  and  examined  and  made  amends  for  their 

21  criminal  conduct;  whereas  in  Daw's  Lawrence,  there  was  a 

22  long  track  record  of  demonstration  of  repenting  the 

23  action  and  having  rehabilitated  themselves.   The  key  in 

24  the  Shaputis  case  was  the  person  was  not  adequately 

25  admitting  his  criminal  conduct,  and  that  appeared  to  be 

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the  fulcrum. 

In  reviewing  the  transcripts,  it  appears  the 
questions  are  directed  towards  supporting  a  Shaputis 
denial. 

The  --  Also,  I  think  that  the  Chair  asked  a 
very  telling  question,  and  that  is:    When  do  we  find  a 
person  should  be  granted  parole?   And  the  response 
was:    When  they're  no  longer  a  danger  to  public  safety. 
And  yet  the  nominee  voted  to  deny  the  release  of  a  woman 
who  had  terminal  cancer,  brain  tumor,  was  hospitalized, 
had  a  leg  amputated  and  could  not  eat  or  take  care  of 
herself  by  herself.    It's  certainly  telling  that  that  is 
not  the  standard.    It  was  more  concern  about  her  prior 
crime. 

Thank  you  very  much. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Good.   You  know,  we  loath 
to  get  into  debate  back  and  forth  about  individual 
cases,  but  if  you  want  to  respond,  Mr.  Garner,  as  to 
this  specific  case  cited  by  Mr.  Warren,  you're  welcome 
to. 

MR.  GARNER:    I'm  going  to  assume  that  he's 
talking  about  the  Elkins  case,  and  this  was  a  case  that 
did  come  before  the  entire  board.   We  had  an  ample  body 
of  testimony.    We  also  had  a  number  of  reports  that  were 
prepared  for  us  by  the  various  institutions  and  also  by 

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1  comments.   Thank  you. 

2  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you  very  much. 

3  Mr.  Prizmich,  welcome  to  the  hot  seat. 

4  MR.  PRIZMICH:   There  you  go. 

5  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    There  you  go. 

6  Would  you  like  to  introduce  any  member  of  your 

7  family  or  special  guest  here  with  you  today? 

8  MR.  PRIZMICH:    I'm  Mike  Prizmich,  Commissioner. 

9  I'm  the  only  one  here. 

10  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Okay.    Well,  very,  very 

11  good.    Would  you  like  to  make  an  opening  statement,  sir? 

12  MR.  PRIZMICH:    Briefly,  yeah.   I  started  my  law 

13  enforcement  career  in  1971  with  the  Oakland  Police 

14  Department,  served  there  for  about  six  years;  moved  to 

15  Amador  County,  held  the  position  of  deputy  sheriff, 

16  lieutenant,  chief  deputy,  undersheriff,  and,  finally,  a 

17  three-term  sheriff  for  the  county. 

18  As  a  sheriff  for  the  county,  I  was  involved  in 

19  a  number  of  jail  and  public  issues  that  dealt  with  both 

20  victims  and  inmates.    Started  a  number  of  programs. 

21  One,  particularly,  was  a  program  in  the  jail  that  was  — 

22  enhanced  prisoners'  ability  to  improve  themselves,  and 

23  it  incorporated  their  families.   And  that  was  read  into 

24  the  record  by  Janet  Reno,  the  then  Attorney  General,  and 

25  was  mentioned  on  the  Senate  —  the  Congressional  record 

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CDCR  staff. 

And  I  did  vote  against  the  release.    I  was  one 
of  12.    I  believe  it  was  a  unanimous  vote,  and  I  voted 
against  it. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Okay.    No  other  witnesses. 

Couple  of  comments.   I  find  your  answers  today 
to  be  very  cogent.   You're  the  only  nominee  thus  far  on 
these  issues  that  actually,  to  my  satisfaction, 
reconciled  Title  15  with  the  Supreme  Court  cases  in  a 
way  that  makes  sense  to  me. 

I  also  appreciated  your  answers  to  Senator 
Oropeza's  questions,  and  your  view  on  programming,  and 
the  difference  between  programming  in  name  and 
programming  in  actual  action.    And  so  it  would  be  my 
inclination  to  support  your  nomination. 

We  will,  however,  just  as  we  did  last  week,  put 
over  the  nomination,  because  what  we  do  want  is  some 
understanding  and  some  clarity  with  the  board  itself, 
the  entire  board  itself,  as  to  the  appropriate  legal 
standard  so  that  everyone  is  on  the  same  page  going 
forward,  and  there  isn't  this  ambiguity. 

So  your  nomination  will  expire,  I  believe,  on 
July  the  1st,  and  we  will  bring  it  back  up  before  that 
and  look  forward  to  supporting  your  nomination. 

MR.  GARNER:    Very  good.    I  appreciate  your 

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1  in  Washington,  D.C. 

2  I  served  on  the  California  State  Sheriffs  as  a 

3  director  there  and  headed  up  a  couple  of  committees  that 

4  I  participated  on  there;  became  a  commissioner  in  -- 

5  after  I  retired  in  19  —  2007  and  have  served  since 

6  approximately  --  well  over  a  thousand  hearings  that  I've 

7  participated  in. 

8  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Same  question  that  we 

9  asked  Mr.  Garner  regarding  how  you  reconcile,  if  at  all, 

10  Title  15  with  the  Supreme  Court  cases,  "present  risk" 

11  versus  "unreasonable  risk"? 

12  MR.  PRIZMICH:    I  think  Commissioner  Garner  hit 

13  the  nail  on  the  head,  as  you  said,  that  no  one  is 

14  without  risk,  and  we  need  to  weigh  what  the  risk  is  at 

15  the  time  we  see  the  individual  and  make  an  assessment. 

16  And  the  assessment  incorporates  a  number  of  factors: 

17  what  kind  of  self-help  programming  they've  done, 

18  psychological  evaluations,  programming  that  they've 

19  done,  work  product  that  they've  done,  what  their  parole 

20  plans  look  like.   There  are  a  number  of  factors  that  you 

21  look  at  and  come  up  with  an  assessment. 

22  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    We  noticed  in  reviewing 

23  the  transcripts  of  your  hearings  that  you  were  actually 

24  one  of  a  few  officers  who  actually  used  the  language 

25  "posing  an  unreasonable  risk"  as  your  standard.    Were 

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1  you  trained  differently  than  others? 

2  MR.  PRIZMICH:    Maybe  I  was  asleep  during  that. 

3  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    As  opposed  to  --  Again, 

4  I  —  we  don't  want  to  — 

5  The  language  is  important.   We're  not,  you 

6  know,  trying  to  split  hairs  in  any  way.    We're  trying  to 

7  understand  what  the  standard  is. 

8  MR.  PRIZMICH:    I  understand. 

9  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    You  used  the  Title  15 

10  standard  specifically,  and  few  others  seemed  to  do  that. 

11  So  what  special  training  do  you  get? 

12  MR.  PRIZMICH:    Why  me? 

13  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Yes,  sir. 

14  MR.  PRIZMICH:    I've  been  a  commissioner  for  a 

15  while.   A  lot  of  our  commissioners  that  are  on  the  board 

16  now  are  relatively  new,  at  least  they're  newer  than  I 

17  am.    I  was  comfortable  with  the  hearings  and  comfortable 

18  with  the  briefings  that  we  got  on  the  various  case  laws 

19  and  render  my  decisions  based  upon  what  I  believe  is 

20  fair  on  that  day  and  incorporate  the  case  law. 

21  I  was  not  aware  I  was  the  only  one  using  that 

22  language,  but  that's  how  I  do  it.   That's  my  style,  I 

23  guess,  if  you  will. 

24  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Okay.   Thank  you. 

25  Questions  from  Members. 

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1  I  have  --  I've  given  dates  to  a  low-moderate, 

2  which  is  generally  higher  than  the  commission  is  used  to 

3  giving  dates  to,  but  I  went  into  the  issue  that  made  him 

4  a  low-moderate,  and  I  determined  that  it  was 

5  inappropriately  looked  at  by  the  psychological 

6  evaluator,  and  I  gave  a  date.   And  I  articulated  that  in 

7  my  decision. 

8  SENATOR  DUTTON:    When  you  find  that  to  be  the 

9  case,  when  you  find  something  lacking  in  the 

10  psychoanalysis,  especially  in  the  risk-factor  section, 

11  do  you  then  --  is  there  any  kind  of  procedure  for  you  to 

12  report  that  difficulty  with  that  particular  evaluator? 

13  MR.  PRIZMICH:    Well,  you  know,  that's  that 

14  evaluator's  opinion,  and,  certainly,  they  have  greater 

15  expertise  in  those  fields. 

16  I  am  charged  with  looking  at  a  number  of 

17  different  factors  that  incorporates  that  as  one  of  them, 

18  and  I  make  a  decision  based  on  a  number  of  factors.   And 

19  we  do  find,  just  being  the  large  bureaucracy  that  we 

20  are,  there  are  errors  in  psychological  evaluations,  and 

21  you  will  --  you  should  --  I  do  request  another 

22  psychological  evaluation.   I  send  that  through  the 

23  proper  channels. 

24  SENATOR  DUTTON:    Do  you  usually  do  that  before 

25  or  after  you  make  your  final  --  I  guess  it  varies,  I 

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SENATOR  DUTTON:    Yes.   Good  afternoon. 

MR.  PRIZMICH:    Good  afternoon. 

SENATOR  DUTTON:    With  regards  to  some  of  the 
risk  analysis,  there's  a  risk  section  within  the  -- 
there's  a  risk  factor  section  in  the  analysis  that  you 
get,  I  believe. 

MR.  PRIZMICH:    In  the  psychological  evaluation? 
Is  that  what  you're  talking  about? 

SENATOR  DUTTON:    Yes,  in  the  psychological 
evaluation.    How  useful  do  you  find  that,  and  can  you 
kind  of  describe  it  a  little  bit  to  me?   What's  in  it? 

MR.  PRIZMICH:    I  can  only  speak  for  myself.    I 
look  at  each  individual  as  an  individual.   And  not  all 
the  psychological  evaluations,  in  my  view,  are  right  on, 
and  you  need  to  make  your  own  independent  assessment  of 
that. 

Generally,  you  get  a  guide,  and  you  compare 
that  against  other  factors  such  as  the  disciplinary 
record,  does  it  seem  to  be  reflected  in  this  risk 
assessment;  who  the  individual  is  looking  eye  to  eye 
across  the  table  at  you.   You're  dialoging  with  them, 
and  you  have  a  pretty  darn  good  idea,  or  at  least  most 
of  us,  I  believe,  do,  in  talking  one-on-one  to  make  an 
assessment,  Is  this  psychological  evaluation  accurate? 
And  if  it  isn't,  you  need  to  look  into  it  closer. 

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1  guess. 

2  MR.  PRIZMICH:    You  make  it  at  some  point  during 

3  the  decision. 

4  SENATOR  DUTTON:    What  kind  of  dog  do  you  bring 

5  to  the  hearings? 

6  MR.  PRIZMICH:    I  wish  I  could.    I  have  a  Border 

7  Collie  that  I  invite  into  — 

8  SENATOR  DUTTON:   They  told  me  that  you  travel 

9  with  a  dog. 

10  MR.  PRIZMICH:    Actually,  I  wish  I  could,  but  I 

11  don't. 

12  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    What's  your  view  on 

13  spaying  and  neutering? 

14  (Laughter.) 

15  MR.  PRIZMICH:    You  never  fool  with  a  guy's  dog. 

16  My  dog  is  a  rescue  dog,  and  his  name  is  Bandit. 

17  So  when  I  was  the  sheriff,  it  was  the  Sheriff  and 

18  Bandit.    He  came  to  work  with  me.   And  he  is  a — 

19  SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Your  choice. 

20  MR.  PRIZMICH:    Pardon? 

21  SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Your  choice  to  do  that. 

22  MR.  PRIZMICH:    He  came  to  me  that  way,  but  I 

23  would  have  done  that.    Like  I  said,  it  was  a  rescue. 

24  How  did  we  get  off  on  this? 

25  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Sorry.    It  was  a  big  bill 

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1  on  the  floor  yesterday  in  the  Senate. 

2  Witnesses  in  support  or  opposition. 

3  MS.  HERNANDEZ:    My  name  is  Peggy  Hernandez. 

4  Members  of  the  Committee,  thank  you  for  your 

5  attention  this  afternoon.   I  was  present  last  week,  and 

6  I  expressed  my  opposition  to  appointment  of  Board  of 

7  Parole  Hearing  commissioners  whose  background, 

8  education,  and  experience  is  largely  from  the  law 

9  enforcement  community. 

10  Today  I  am  here  specifically  to  oppose  the 

11  appointment  of  Michael  F.  Prizmich.   There  are  several 

12  areas  of  grave  concern  that  I  have  regarding 

13  Mr.  Prizmich's  appointment:    Number  one,  his  lack  of 

14  familiarity  with  the  vocational  and  educational  programs 

15  offered  in  the  correctional  facility;  number  two,  his 

16  inability  to  evaluate  suitable  parole  plans;  and  three, 

17  his  limited  knowledge  and  understanding  of  psychological 

18  evaluations  and  counseling  reports.   All  of  these 

19  elements  are  listed  on  the  CDCR  Web  site  as  components 

20  of  the  suitability  criteria  for  the  lifer  parole 

21  process. 

22  By  way  of  background,  both  Folsom  State  Prison 

23  and  Avenal  State  Prison  operate  cooperative  programs 

24  initiated  by  the  community  college  system  for  the 

25  purpose  of  converting  instructional  material  into  an 

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1  seeking  parole.   Additionally,  this  begs  the  question 

2  whether  Mr.  Prizmich  even  understands  the  Americans  with 

3  Disabilities  Act  rights  he  reviews  with  the  inmate  and 

4  counsel  at  the  beginning  of  each  hearing. 

5  During  the  same  hearing,  the  transcript  reveals 

6  that  Mr.  Prizmich  cherry-picked  through  six  different 

7  psychological  reports  over  a  20-year  span  to  extract 

8  excerpts  to  support  his  conclusion  that  an  inmate  was 

9  not  suitable  for  release.    Mr.  Prizmich's  personal 

10  method  of  interpreting  psychological  assessments  is  not 

11  the  manner  in  which  these  comprehensive  diagnostic 

12  evaluations  are  intended  to  be  used. 

13  In  clinical  practice,  individuals  over  a  period 

14  of  time  may  not  meet  the  full  criteria  for  a  disorder. 

15  In  fact,  current  evaluations  reflect  a  cumulative 

16  history  over  a  period  of  time  and  include  a  more 

17  comprehensive  observation  and  understanding  of  an 

18  individual's  behavior. 

19  Mr.  Prizmich  has  delayed  Board  of  Parole 

20  hearings  for  updated  psychological  examinations  and  then 

21  chooses  to  reference  earlier  examinations  when  they 

22  fulfill  his  conclusions.    He  draws  these  conclusions 

23  citing  an  individual's  lack  of  insight,  even  though 

24  there  is  no  diagnostic  or  anecdotal  information  to 

25  substantiate  his  belief. 

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1  alternate  format  for  use  by  students  with  disabilities. 

2  Inmates  assigned  to  these  programs  must  pass  a 

3  rigorous  criteria  for  acceptance,  including  a  high  level 

4  of  academic  excellence,  commendable  behavior,  and 

5  institutional  programming,  recommendation  by 

6  correctional  staff,  and  a  criminal  history  that  does  not 

7  include  sex-related  offenses. 

8  From  2001  to  2006,  four  inmates  who  had 

9  participated  in  these  programs  were  placed  at  community 

10  colleges  to  produce  alternate  media.   One  of  these 

11  inmates  was  previously  a  life-term  inmate.   Another 

12  life-term  inmate  has  been  offered  a  position  at  CSU 

13  Long  Beach. 

14  During  recent  hearings,  presiding  commissioner, 

15  Mr.  Prizmich,  demonstrated  his  lack  of  understanding 

16  regarding  these  programs.    He  did  not  understand  the 

17  purpose  or  mission  of  these  programs  or  the  reasons 

18  behind  their  creation.    He  then  concluded  that  a  job 

19  offer  from  Cosumnes  River  College  offered  to  the  inmate 

20  was  deceptive.    He  remarked  he  did  not  even  know  that 

21  there  was  braille  at  Cosumnes. 

22  On  many  levels,  his  lack  of  familiarity  with 

23  the  vocational  and  educational  programs  offered  in  the 

24  correctional  facility  and  his  inability  to  evaluate 

25  simple  parole  plans  has  adverse  outcomes  to  the  inmates 

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1  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Have  you  witnessed  any  ot 

2  his  hearings? 

3  MS.  HERNANDEZ:    I  have  read  the  transcripts  of 

4  his  hearings.   And,  specifically,  what  I  personally 

5  found  offensive  is,  I  was  the  individual  who  created  the 

6  community  colleges  program  at  the  prisons.    I  was  the 

7  individual,  pursuant  to  AB  422  (Steinberg),  in  2000  that 

8  initiated  these  programs  -- 

9  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Great  bill.    Great  bill. 

10  MS.  HERNANDEZ:    It  was  awesome. 

11  In  fact,  the  California  Association  on  Post- 
12  Secondary  Education  and  Disability  gave  the  Lanterman 

13  Award  to  then  Assemblyman  Steinberg  for  this  legislation 

14  which  prompted  a  number  of  changes  within  the  community 

15  college  system. 

16  The  donations  from  the  community  college  system 

17  to  Department  of  Corrections  is  in  excess  of  $300,000  in 

18  initiating  these  programs,  and  the  only  contribution 

19  that  Corrections  was  asked  to  contribute  were  the 

20  inmates.   In  exchange  for  this  partnership,  Scott 

21  Hamilton  and  myself  negotiated  with  the  Corrections  that 

22  we  would  assist  in  job-placement  activities  following 

23  the  inmate's  release. 

24  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    So  your  complaint,  just  so 

25  I  understand  it,  is  that  this  commissioner  was  not  aware 

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of  this  resource.    So  why  don't  we  — 

MS.  HERNANDEZ:    He  wasn't  aware  of  -- 

The  requirements  are  that  they  are  supposed  to 
be  knowledgeable  of  educational  programming  and 
vocational  programs  at  the  institutions,  and  his  lack  of 
familiarity  he  translated  into  his  own  impression  that 
it  was  deceptive  when  the  inmate  was  offered  a  letter  on 
Cosumnes  River  College  letterhead  that  he  was  going  to 
get  employment  in  the  capacity  of  braille. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Very  good.    Thank  you. 

We're  going  to  ask  you  to  respond  to  that. 

Mr.  Warren,  why  don't  you  go  first. 

MR.  WARREN:    My  name  is  David  Warren.   I'm 
appearing  on  behalf  of  Taxpayers  for  Improving  Public 
Safety.   In  addition  to  the  reasons  that  I  stated 
previously,  I'd  like  to  add  one  more. 

In  the  case  of  this  nominee,  I  would  refer  to 
the  situation  of  Anna  X.     Anna  X.  murdered  her 
boyfriend.   She  got  a  15-to-life  sentence.    In  her  17th 
year,  the  nominee  was  —  reviewed  her  parole  nomination. 
This  individual  had  completed  every  program  at  the  top 
of  her  class  available  at  the  California  Institution  for 
Women.    She  had  graduated  summa  cum  laude  from  the 
community  college  program  that  was  available  at  the 
prison.    She  was  a  leader  in  the  prison  in  reform 

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1  somebody  with  a  Cosumnes  River  College  offer  of  some 

2  kind,  but  I  don't  remember  the  details  of  that. 

3  I  certainly  do  ask  questions  about  any  of  the 

4  job  offers  they  have,  and  if  there  are  circumstances 

5  that  seem  unusual  to  me,  I'll  probe  a  little  bit  deeper 

6  to  make  sure  that  their  offers  are  valid.   But  it's  hard 

7  for  me  to  articulate  the  specifics  on  that  one. 

8  I  certainly  do  know  —  Avenal  is  an  institution 

9  I  go  to  quite  often,  and  I'm  aware  of  the  programs  that 

10  are  there. 

11  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Okay.    Any  other 

12  witnesses?  Yes,  sir.   Come  on  up. 

13  MR.  NORTON:    Good  afternoon,  Senator  Steinberg, 

14  Members.    My  name  is  Marc  Norton  I'm  a  defense  attorney. 

15  I  have  a  private  practice  here  in  Sacramento,  and  I've 

16  been  doing  board  hearings  for  about  three  years.    I've 

17  done  between  —  approximately  300,  I  guess. 

18  I've  appeared  before  Commissioner  Prizmich  and 

19  Commissioner  Garner,  and  I  have  nothing  but  praise  for 

20  both  of  them.   I  think  they're  both  fine  individuals  who 

21  take  their  jobs  seriously.   And  while  I  know  that 

22  there's  been  some  concern  expressed  about  they  don't 

23  grant  parole  normally,  again,  personally,  when  I  walk 

24  into  the  hearing  room  and  I  see  either  of  these 

25  gentlemen  there,  I  don't  get  a  pit  in  my  stomach.   Soto 

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activities  and  was  given  a  denial  because  she  had  not 
demonstrated  the  fact  that  she  had  rehabilitated. 

This  was  an  individual  who  was  in  prison 
because  her  boyfriend  had  habituated  her  to 
methamphetamine,  and  no  matter  how  hard  she  tried,  she 
could  not  get  away  and  finally,  ultimately,  killed  him 
in  a  fight. 

This  is  a  classic  example  of  why  this 
commissioner  should  be  denied  confirmation.   Thank  you. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Thank  you,  both,  very 
much. 

Commissioner,  do  you  want  to  respond  to  --  I 
mean,  I  think  the  general  allegations,  if  you  will,  from 
the  opposition  is  that  you're  not  aware  of  all  of  the 
statutorily  required  and/or  available  programs  that,  had 
you  known  them,  you  might,  in  fact,  be  more  comfortable 
granting  parole,  knowing  that  the  parolees  have  an 
option  on  the  outside.    How  do  you  respond? 

MR.  PRIZMICH:    Well,  I  mean,  we  do  get 
information  from  the  institutions  on  what  they  are 
provided  in  terms  of  self-help  programming  and 
vocational  programming. 

I  don't  know  the  specifics  on  the  situation 
that  the  lady  was  speaking  of.    I  think  it  was  probably 
several  years  ago,  if  I'm  not  mistaken.    I  do  remember 

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1  me,  that  means  something. 

2  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    The  pit-in-the-stomach 

3  test. 

4  MR.  NORTON:    The  old  pit-in-the-stomach  test, 

5  yes,  sir. 

6  Now  having  said  that,  I  do  know  that  there's 

7  been  great  concern  expressed  by  the  defense  bar,  and 

8  myself  is  included  in  that,  that  the  panel  is  comprised 

9  solely  of  law  enforcement  background,  and  I  think  that's 

10  a  real  concern.    It's  a  concern  to  me  not  so  much, 

11  again,  individually,  when  I  appear  before  Mr.  Prizmich 

12  or  Mr.  Garner.   That's  not  the  issue.    For  me,  a  lot  of 

13  times  the  governor  will  refer  a  case  to  the  full  panel, 

14  called  the  en  banc  panel,  in  Sacramento,  and  typically 

15  victims  and  victims'  next-to-kin  show  up  at  those 

16  hearings,  and  the  panel  -- 

17  My  job  as  an  advocate  is  to  get  a  majority  of 

18  votes  to  affirm  the  date  that  was  already  given.   If  I 

19  don't  get  that  majority,  then  it's  scheduled  for  what's 

20  called  a  rescission  hearing.   That  happened  recently, 

21  April  2nd  this  year,  and  I  felt  it  was  unwarranted  so 

22  much  so  that  the  date  was  rescinded.   I  wrote  a  letter 

23  to  BPH  legal,  and  they  have  reversed  the  decision,  so 

24  now  my  guy  is  going  to  parole. 

25  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Does  this  relate  to  the 

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1  nominee  here? 

2  MR.  NORTON:    Only  in  regards  to  the  totality  of 

3  composition  of  the  panel,  Senator. 

4  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Okay. 

5  MR.  NORTON:    In  that,  again,  if  the  panel  is 

6  comfortable  with  all  law  enforcement  being  on  the  panel, 

7  then  I  would  fully  support  these  two  individuals. 

8  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    At  least  some  of  us  agree 

9  with  your  general  statement  here.   We  share  the  same 

10  concern. 

11  MR.  NORTON:   Again,  that  is  not  —  I  understand 

12  there's  three  other  nominees  that  are  on  hold  right  now. 

13  If  you're  going  to  pick  two  of  the  five,  then 

14  commissioners  --  in  my  view,  Commissioners  Garner  and 

15  Prizmich  would  be  those  two. 

16  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Thank  you  very  much. 

17  Appreciate  your  testimony. 

18  MR.  NORTON:    Thank  you,  sir. 

19  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    All  right.    I  would  note 

20  for  the  record,  just  because  I  think  it's  important, 

21  that  Mr.  Garner,  if  you  look  January  8th  --  January  '08 

22  to  April  '09  conducted  762  hearings,  made  68  grants, 

23  432  denials,  55  stipulations,  and  205  postponements. 

24  Mr.  Prizmich,  during  the  same  period  of  time, 

25  781  hearings,  45  grants,  528  denials,  107  stipulations, 

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MS.  BROWN:    Cedillo  aye. 
Dutton. 

SENATOR  DUTTON:    Aye. 
MS.  BROWN:    Dutton  aye. 
Oropeza. 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Aye. 
MS.  BROWN:    Oropeza  aye. 
Aanestad. 

SENATOR  AANESTAD:    Aye. 
MS.  BROWN:   Aanestad  aye. 
Steinberg. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Aye. 
MS.  BROWN:   Steinberg  aye. 
(Thereupon,  the  Senate  Rules  Committee  hearing 
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1  and  145  postponements,  just  so  that's  --  the  numbers  are 

2  clear  and  on  the  record. 

3  Mr.  Prizmich,  I  think  you're  qualified,  and  I 

4  think  you're  fair.   And  this  is  --  The  overriding  issue 

5  that  Mr.  Warren  and  others  raise  consistently  is,  I 

6  think,  a  correct  issue  as  well,  but  it's  our  job  to  look 

7  at  the  nominee  as  he  or  she  comes  before  us.    And  in 

8  your  case,  again,  I  lean  towards  confirmation,  but  like 

9  with  Mr.  Garner  and  the  nominees  last  week,  we're  going 

10  to  put  this  over  so  that  we  can  get  from  the  board  an 

11  understanding  on  the  appropriate  and  consistent  legal 

12  standard.   All  right? 

13  MR.  PRIZMICH:    Thank  you,  sir.    Appreciate  your 

14  comments. 

15  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you  very  much. 

16  Appreciate  it. 

17  Okay.    Let's  move  through  the  rest  of  the 

18  agenda  quickly,  if  we  can. 

19  We've  got  the  governor's  appointees  subject  to 

20  confirmation  but  not  required  to  appear.   That's  item 

21  three.    Is  there  any  — 

22  Moved  by  Senator  Aanestad,  3C  through  G. 

23  Please  call  the  roll. 

24  MS.  BROWN:    Senator  Cedillo. 

25  SENATOR  CEDILLO:    Aye. 

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I,  INA  C.  LeBLANC,  a  Certified  Shorthand 
Reporter  of  the  State  of  California,  do  hereby  certify 
that  I  am  a  disinterested  person  herein;  that  the 
foregoing  transcript  of  the  Senate  Rules  Committee 
hearing  was  reported  verbatim  in  shorthand  by  me, 
INA  C.  LeBLANC,  a  Certified  Shorthand  Reporter  of  the 
State  of  California,  and  thereafter  transcribed  into 
typewriting. 

I  further  certify  that  I  am  not  of  counsel  or 
attorney  for  any  of  the  parties  to  said  hearing,  nor  in 
any  way  interested  in  the  outcome  of  said  hearing. 

IN  WITNESS  WHEREOF,  I  have  hereunto  set  my  hanc 
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Senate  Confirmation  ^S  CSpo^  $&  S 

Jack  E.  Garner,  Commissioner  &Ptf 

Board  of  Parole  Hearings 
Responses  to  Senate  Rules  Committee  Questions 
May  11,  2009 


Statement  of  Goals 

1 .  What  are  your  goals  and  objectives  in  your  new  term  as  commissioner  of 
BPH?  How  will  you  measure  your  success  in  this  term?  How  do  you 
gauge  your  performance  in  your  first  term? 

My  goals  and  objectives  for  my  second  term  are  consistent  with  my  first  term. 
Specifically,  I  want  to  conduct  fair  and  impartial  hearings  to  the  best  of  my  ability. 

My  assessment  of  performance  during  the  first  term  is  favorable.  I  strived  to  learn  as 
much  as  possible  regarding  my  duties  and  responsibilities.  Board  of  Parole  Hearing 
(BPH)  training,  self-education,  and  monitoring  trends  and  direction  from  the  courts  were 
the  methods  I  used  to  gauge  my  performance. 

2.  You  have  served  as  a  BPH  member  since  2005.  Do  you  believe  the  lifer 
hearing  process  serves  the  public,  the  inmate,  and  the  victims  equally 
well?  If  you  were  able,  what  improvements  would  you  make? 

I  believe  the  current  lifer  hearing  process  is  designed  to  meet  a  variety  of  needs  that 
include  the  public,  the  inmate,  the  victims  and  the  victim's  next  of  kin.  The  assessment 
of  the  final  outcome  is  in  the  eye  of  the  beholder.  The  hearing  decision  is  the  point 
where  different  expectations  may  cause  disagreement.  For  example,  the  inmate  may 
feel  the  hearing  was  fair,  but  disagrees  with  the  decision.  Likewise,  the  victim  or 
victim's  next  of  kin  may  have  the  same  feeling  about  the  hearing,  but  disagrees  with  the 
decision.  This  is  especially  true  if  the  decision  was  a  grant  of  parole. 

The  publics'  concern  is  more  difficult  to  assess  because,  for  the  most  part,  they  are  not 
actively  involved  in  the  hearing  process.  Clearly,  the  role  of  the  district  attorney  is  to 
represent  the  public  at  the  hearing.  However,  the  scope  of  this  representation  is  limited 
to  the  hearing  that  is  being  conducted. 

If  able  to  do  so,  I  would  encourage  a  more  visible  presence  between  the  Board  and  the 
broader  public  it  serves.  Public  education  regarding  the  lifer  process  and  rate  of 
recidivism  of  a  life  inmate  granted  parole  would  be  informative  to  the  public.  At  present, 
media  coverage  of  parole  violators  does  not  distinguish  between  a  parolee  who 
committed  a  life  crime  and  a  parolee  who  did  not. 

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Training 

The  2005  law  that  created  BPH  requires  that  within  60  days  of  appointment  and 
annually  thereafter  commissioners  and  deputy  commissioners  undergo  a  minimum  of 
40  hours  of  training. 

3.  Now  that  you  have  chaired  hearings  for  some  years,  do  you  have 
recommendations  for  training  improvement? 

BPH  training  has  vastly  improved  since  my  appointment  in  2005.  BPH  now  involves  the 
Commissioners  in  development  of  training  needs  by  conducting  a  training  needs  self 
assessment.  This  permits  each  Commissioner  the  opportunity  to  identify  topics  for 
future  training  sessions.  The  issues  I  identified  have  been  addressed. 

4.  When  a  procedural  question  arises  during  a  hearing  you  are  chairing  at 
an  institution,  who  is  available  to  assist  you  to  answer  the  question? 
During  previous  BPH  confirmation  hearings,  board  members  have  raised 
concerns  about  the  lack  of  support  available  to  them  by  phone  from 
Sacramento.  Do  you  believe  you  get  the  help  you  need  in  a  timely  way  so 
that  hearings  are  not  needlessly  delayed? 

Commissioners  now  have  several  points  of  contact  at  BPH  headquarters  that  are 
available  by  cell  phone.  The  BPH  legal  unit  is  available  for  questions  on  matters  of  a 
legal  nature.  Commissioners  also  have  additional  contacts  with  program  subject  matter 
experts  and  scheduling.  The  system  is  working  and  prevents  unreasonable  delays  in 
hearings.  In  fact,  delays  are  rare. 

5.  The  hearings  you  chair  can  sometimes  involve  complex  legal  or 
procedural  issues.  Does  anyone  continue  to  monitor  your  performance 
as  a  "lifer"  panelist,  either  in  person  or  through  a  review  of  transcripts,  so 
that  you  may  continue  to  improve  your  performance? 

I  am  aware  that  staff  at  BPH  headquarters  monitor  and  evaluate  my  decisions  on  a  daily 
basis.  This  is  accomplished  by  review  of  the  Lifer  Scheduling  and  Tracking  System  and 
hearing  transcripts. 

6.  What  should  the  Legislature  expect  from  commissioners  regarding 
consistency  in  lifer  hearings?  Should  all  of  the  commissioners  and 
deputy  commissioners  weigh  the  various  factors  in  a  consistent  manner? 

The  Legislature  should  expect  Commissioners  to  apply  the  law  in  a  consistent  manner. 
Commissioners  and  Deputy  Commissioners  should  strive  for  this  consistency  in 
weighing  the  suitability  factors  considered  at  the  hearing.    It  is  important  to  note  that 


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each  case  is  considered  individually  and  that  reasonable  minds  can  come  to  different 
outcomes. 

7.  How  long  should  an  inmate  be  "disciplinary  free"  before  you  consider 
granting  a  release  date,  assuming  all  other  pertinent  issues  indicate 
he/she  is  ready  to  be  released?  Is  there  a  policy?  What  guideline  do  you 
use? 

There  is  no  policy  or  guideline  regarding  how  long  an  inmate  should  be  discipline-free 
before  becoming  suitable  for  parole.  BPH  has  provided  training  regarding  the 
considerations  that  should  be  taken  into  account  in  the  evaluation  of  inmate  misconduct. 
It  is  unusual  to  find  an  inmate  with  disciplinary  problems  that  do  not  impact  other  areas 
of  institutional  adjustment  such  as  programming.  Depending  on  the  extent  and 
magnitude  of  the  discipline,  the  inmate  may  be  precluded  from  some  or  all 
programming. 

I  consider  several  different  factors  regarding  an  inmate's  disciplinary  history. 
Most  important  is  the  severity:  does  it  involve  violence  or  the  potential  for  violence  or 
does  it  reflect  an  on-going  pattern  of  misconduct.  Equally  important  in  evaluating  a 
disciplinary  action  is  the  determination  of  the  inmate's  attitude  concerning  his 
misconduct. 


Proposition  9 

Voters  in  November  2008  enacted  Proposition  9,  a  major  change  in  hearings  for 
life-term  inmates  and  an  expansion  of  victims'  rights.  An  inmate  with  an  indeterminate 
life  sentence  had  been  required  to  receive  an  initial  hearing  one  year  prior  to  the 
inmate's  minimum  eligible  parole  date.  Subsequent  hearings  occurred  between  one 
and  five  years  apart  for  murder  convictions,  and  between  one  and  two  years  apart  for 
non-murder  convictions.  Under  the  new  law,  one-year  denials  are  no  longer  an  option. 
Commissioners  must  first  consider  a  15-year  denial.  Commissioners  also  must  use  a 
"clear  and  convincing  evidence"  standard  in  determining  the  appropriate  denial  length, 
down  to  a  three-year  denial— now  the  minimum  time  allowed  between  hearings. 
However,  inmates  are  able  to  periodically  request  that  the  board  advance  the  hearing 
date. 

8.      What  changes  in  hearings  have  you  seen  as  a  result  of  the  passage  of 
Proposition  9,  and  how  have  they  impacted  the  board's  workload? 

There  has  been  limited  impact  in  my  workload  as  a  result  of  the  passage  of 
Proposition  9  (Marsy's  Law).  The  hearing  script  changed  to  meet  the  requirements  of 
the  denial  scheme  under  the  new  law  and  there  has  been  an  increase  in  the  number  of 
objections  related  to  the  application  of  Proposition  9  by  inmate's  counsel  at  hearings. 


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9.  Commissioners  were  provided  additional  training  to  deal  with  changes 
brought  by  Proposition  9.  Please  explain  how  you  were  told  to  determine 
what  "clear  and  convincing  evidence"  is.  How  do  you  know  whether  to 
deny  parole,  for  example,  for  15  years  or  3  years? 

Commissioners  were  provided  training  on  this  topic  and  were  instructed  that  the 
determination  of  suitability  and  unsuitability  remains  unchanged.  The  change  as  a 
result  of  Proposition  9  occurs  when  an  inmate  has  been  determined  to  be  unsuitable 
and  then  deciding  the  appropriate  denial  length.  We  were  trained  by  BPH  legal  staff  as 
to  the  meaning  and  use  of  the  clear  and  convincing  standard  of  proof  in  issuing  a  denial. 
Clear  and  convincing  evidence  is  used  to  reduce  the  denial  length  from  15  to  10  years 
and  10  years  to  a  lesser  length.  If  there  is  no  substantial  doubt  that  the  inmate  does  not 
require  a  15  or  10-year  denial  to  attain  suitability,  then  I  would  order  a  lower  denial 
length. 

10.  How  are  you  kept  abreast  of  legal  actions  that  could  impact 
implementation  of  Proposition  9? 

BPH  legal  staff  provides  legal  briefings  at  the  monthly  Board  meetings.  Additionally,  we 
receive  legal  updates  via  e-mail  and  are  notified  via  e-mail  and  telephone  of  any  legal 
issue  that  may  impact  a  specific  hearing.  Further,  the  district  attorney  representatives 
and  inmates'  attorneys  are  another  source  of  legal  information. 

1 1 .  Are  you  seeing  changes  in  your  workload  as  a  result  of  the  passage  of 
Proposition  9? 

There  was  an  expectation  that  passage  of  Proposition  9  would  result  in  an  increase  in 
the  participation  by  victims  and  victim's  next  of  kin  in  hearings.  Since  December  2008, 
I  have  not  experienced  any  increase  that  would  demonstrate  a  significant  change  in 
workload.  Although  I  did  conduct  one  hearing  in  which  there  were  eleven  victims, 
victim's  next  of  kin  and  victim's  representatives  present  to  testify  at  the  hearing. 


Programs 

Prisons  have  a  wide  variety  of  academic  and  vocational  programs  as  well  as 
self-help  offerings,  such  as  Alcoholics  Anonymous.  Commissioners  may  recommend 
an  inmate  enroll  in  a  particular  program  to  better  prepare  himself  or  herself  for  life 
outside  of  prison. 


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1 2.  How  do  you  learn  about  educational,  vocational,  or  self-help  programs  in 
state  prisons?  Which  programs  have  you  observed  and  when?  Please 
be  specific. 

Commissioners  have  been  provided  with  program  information  for  each  institution. 
Also  individual  staff  at  each  institution  is  available  to  provide  updates  as  to  any  changes 
in  program  availability.  For  example,  during  the  state  budget  delay  last  year  many 
programs  were  impacted  and  were  not  available. 

In  early  2009,  I  had  the  opportunity  to  visit  the  Substance  Abuse  Program  (SAP)  at 
California  State  Prison-Solano.  During  my  visit,  a  show  of  hands  revealed  that  the 
majority  of  participants  were  lifer  inmates.  The  program  was  designed  to  instill  positive 
values  in  the  inmates.  One  inmate  spoke  to  the  concept  of  pushing  up  and  pulling  up 
individuals  in  need  of  assistance. 

While  working  at  the  Correctional  Training  Facility  (CTF),  I  have  become  acquainted 
with  many  of  the  porters  that  are  responsible  for  maintaining  the  hearing  room  facilities 
at  the  institution.  One  such  individual  is  a  life  inmate  that  I  have  known  since  2005  and 
was  given  a  grant  by  a  panel  in  April  2009.  Also  this  spring  at  CTF,  I  spoke  with  an 
inmate  who  appeared  for  a  hearing  in  front  of  me  about  his  assignment  to  the  Inmate 
Day  Labor  crew.  We  discussed  his  work  on  the  new  exercise  area  for  segregated 
inmates. 

13.  How  are  you  taught  to  know  if  a  particular  program  is  effective?  If  you 
recommend  participation  in  a  specific  program  for  an  inmate,  do  you 
know  if  it  is  available  to  the  inmate? 

I  evaluate  a  program's  effectiveness  by  questioning  the  inmate.  For  example,  an 
inmate  who  claims  to  have  participated  in  a  12-step  program  such  as  Alcohol  or 
Narcotics  Anonymous  is  questioned  regarding  their  knowledge  of  the  12  steps.  Often, 
an  inmate  can  parrot  the  steps  but  provide  little  if  any  personal  understanding  of  what 
the  steps  mean  to  them.  Another  example  is  where  an  inmate  has  attended  anger 
management  programs;  I  ask  questions  about  their  knowledge  of  their  personal  triggers 
of  anger. 

One  of  the  best  sources  concerning  the  availability  of  programs  is  to  ask  the  inmate 
what  is  available  at  the  institution.  Recently  transferred  inmates  arriving  at  an  institution 
must  sign-up  for  programs  and  are  usually  placed  on  a  waiting  list.  In  the  absence  of 
available  programming,  I  encourage  and  recommend  that  inmates  become  involved  in 
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14.  What  role  do  you  play,  if  any,  in  recommending  programs  to  CDCR? 
Would  you  ever  recommend  increased  education  or  literacy  as  a  way  to 
help  an  inmate  become  more  suitable  for  parole? 

Currently,  Commissioners  do  not  have  a  role  in  recommending  program  development  to 
the  Department  of  Corrections  and  Rehabilitation.  There  is  no  question  that  increased 
availability  of  educational  opportunities  and  literacy  advancement  would  help  many 
inmates  work  towards  becoming  suitable  for  parole. 

15.  As  the  department  moves  to  focus  academic  and  vocational  programs  on 
inmates  being  paroled  in  the  coming  three  years,  how  will  life-term 
inmates  obtain  the  wide  variety  of  programming  commissioners 
recommend  for  them  to  qualify  for  release?  Do  BPH  members  participate 
in  these  policy  decisions? 

BPH  Commissioners  do  not  currently  participate  in  the  strategic  planning  or  policy 
development  of  programming  for  life  inmates.  Life  inmates  begin  their  programming: 
education,  vocation,  or  self-help,  long  before  they  come  to  their  first  suitability  hearing. 

16.  The  lifer  panel  has,  by  tradition,  expected  lifers  to  provide  specific  parole 
plans  at  the  time  of  the  lifers'  hearings.  In  an  economy  where 
unemployment  is  climbing  and  finding  a  job  has  become  increasingly 
difficult,  even  for  those  with  good  job  skills,  has  your  expectation  about 
the  specificity  of  a  lifer's  parole  plans  changed?  Do  you  require  a  lifer  to 
have  secured  a  job  on  the  outside  at  an  unspecified  future  date  should  he 
or  she  be  found  suitable  for  parole?  Are  you  aware  of  any  assistance 
provided  to  lifers  who  are  expected  to  present  you  with  parole  plans? 

I  always  share  my  concern  regarding  the  current  dilemma  regarding  the  employment 
landscape  if  released  in  to  the  community.  Title  15  sets  out  the  suitability  factor  we  are 
to  consider  in  this  area.  It  provides  in  §2402  (d)(8)  "Understanding  and  Plans  for 
Future."  -  The  prisoner  has  made  realistic  plans  for  release  or  has  developed 
marketable  skills  that  can  be  put  to  use  upon  release.  If  an  inmate  has  a  specific  job 
offer  upon  release  it  is  a  definite  plus  for  the  inmate.  There  is  no  requirement  that  the 
inmate  have  a  job  in  hand  to  become  suitable,  but  the  parole  plans  have  to  be  realistic 
in  describing  how  they  will  support  themselves  financially  and  emotionally. 

Often  inmates  are  assisted  in  preparing  parole  plans  by  their  attorney.  I  try  to  provide 
the  inmate  with  recommendations  on  how  to  solidify  their  parole  plans  for  their 
appearance  at  future  hearings. 


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Psychological  Evaluations 

The  packet  of  materials  available  to  the  hearing  panel  traditionally  includes  a 
psychological  evaluation  of  the  inmate.  The  timeliness  and  quality  of  the  evaluation  has 
been  chticized  in  the  past  by  all  parties.  The  historic  lack  of  clear  BPH  policy  regarding 
the  appropriate  interval  between  evaluations  has  been  discussed  regularly  by  the  Rules 
Committee.  The  absence  of  a  "current"  psychological  evaluation  is  often  the  reason  for 
a  hearing  postponement. 

Recently,  BPH  introduced  a  new  strategy  as  part  of  its  effort  to  reduce  the  backlog  of 
lifer  hearings.  A  new  psychological  evaluation,  called  a  Comprehensive  Risk 
Assessment  (CRA),  has  been  implemented  and  will  be  valid  for  five  years. 
A  secondary  report,  known  as  a  Subsequent  Risk  Assessment,  will  be  conducted  as  an 
update  for  hearings  held  prior  to  the  five-year  expiration  of  the  CRA.  Reports  completed 
prior  to  January  1,  2009,  will  remain  valid  for  three  years  from  their  completion  date,  or 
until  used  in  a  hearing  resulting  in  a  decision. 

17.  What  is  your  recent  experience  with  psychological  evaluations?  Are  they 
still  a  cause  of  hearing  postponements? 

The  preparation  of  psychological  reports  in  a  timely  manner  has  improved  to  the  point 
where  hearing  postponements  associated  with  this  issue  are  rare.  Additionally,  the 
quality  and  consistency  of  these  reports  have  greatly  improved. 

18.  How  have  you  been  trained  regarding  the  role  a  psychological  evaluation 
should  play  in  your  decision  regarding  parole  suitability?  How  much 
weight  should  it  be  given? 

Commissioners  have  received  training  in  May  and  December  2008  regarding  the  use  of 
psychological  reports  in  hearings.  The  reports  contain  very  valuable  information  that  is 
considered  in  application  of  the  suitability  factors,  specifically,  the  past  and  present 
mental  state  and  inmate's  attitude  towards  the  crime.  The  psychological  report  offers 
the  panel  a  spring  board  for  questions  regarding  insight  in  the  inmate's  understanding  of 
his  conduct  and  presence  of  remorse.  The  report  is  another  source  of  information  that 
the  panel  considers  in  determining  whether  an  inmate  is  suitable. 

19.  Do  you  believe  the  risk  assessment  information  contained  in  the 
psychological  evaluation  is  useful  to  you  in  making  a  decision? 

The  risk  assessment  information  is  a  valuable  tool  for  the  panel  to  consider.  Each 
assessment  is  supported  by  facts  found  in  the  report  and  those  facts  become  the  areas 
of  questioning  to  the  inmate.  The  risk  assessment  is  an  expert  opinion  provided  to  the 
panel  for  their  consideration  in  determination  of  suitability. 


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Hearings 

BPH  members  conduct  their  hearings  in  close  quarters,  inside  state  prisons  in 
two-person  panels.  Sometimes  commissioners  hold  hearings  for  out-of-state  inmates 
via  telephone  from  a  hearing  room  in  Sacramento.  Most  hearing  documents  typically 
are  forwarded  to  them  just  prior  to  the  hearings. 

20.  Your  working  conditions  can  be  difficult  and  your  hearings  can  be  long. 
Do  you  have  any  suggestions  for  how  the  process  could  be  improved? 

Our  present  hearing  schedule  is  16  hearings  a  week  with  4  hearings  scheduled  on 
Tuesday  through  Thursday.  A  time  study  conducted  several  years  ago  determined  that 
the  average  hearing  required  two  and  half  to  three  hours  to  complete.  There  are  a 
number  of  variables  in  each  hearing  that  can  make  it  long  or  shorter.  These  variables 
are  the  presence  of  victims  or  victim's  next  of  kin,  presentations  of  district  attorney's 
representatives  or  inmates'  counsel,  or  the  use  of  a  foreign  language  interpreter. 
Our  hearing  schedules  do  not  take  into  account  the  institutional  delays  that  often  occur 
regarding  temporary  lockdowns  and  inmate  movement  issues.  All  this  taken  together 
supports  a  decrease  in  the  number  of  hearings  scheduled  each  week  so  that  the 
working  conditions  would  improve. 

21.  When  do  you  prepare  for  hearings?  When  is  the  board  packet  made 
available  to  you?  Please  evaluate  the  current  system  and  discuss  your 
ability  to  completely  review  the  file  and  be  fully  prepared  for  a  hearing. 

Board  packets  usually  arrive  at  my  residence  one  to  two  weeks  prior  to  the  week  of  the 
hearing.  This  delivery  method  is  fine  and  does  not  require  any  change. 

I  prepare  and  review  assigned  cases  the  weekend  before  the  scheduled  hearing  week. 
Normally,  an  initial  review  of  the  week's  cases  requires  approximately  three  plus  hours. 
In  addition,  I  conduct  a  second  review  the  evening  before  the  hearings  which  takes 
another  hour.  This  approach  provides  me  with  the  opportunity  to  be  fully  prepared  for 
the  hearing. 

Prior  to  the  start  of  a  hearing,  the  panel  completes  an  examination  of  the  Central  file  to 
ensure  review  of  any  late  documents  which  may  not  have  been  included  in  the  board 
packet. 

22.  Please  evaluate  the  en  banc  hearing  process.  When  the  full  board  is 
asked  to  decide  a  case  because  of  a  split  decision  between  the 
BPH  member  and  deputy  commissioner  on  the  five  (two)  person  lifer 


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panel,  or  when  the  Governor  asks  the  board  to  look  at  information  he 
believes  was  overlooked  initially,  do  you  believe  you  have  the  information 
you  need  to  reach  a  fair  decision? 

I  feel  the  En  Banc  hearing  process  has  evolved  in  a  very  positive  manner.  Prior  to  each 
monthly  Board  meeting  a  Commissioner  is  assigned  one  or  more  of  the  cases 
scheduled  for  En  Banc  review.  The  Commissioner  who  presided  over  the  case  at  issue 
is  not  assigned  to  review  the  case  for  the  En  Banc  review.  The  assigned  Commissioner 
presents  the  case  during  the  closed  session.  After  consideration  of  any  comment  from 
the  public  on  a  case,  a  review  of  the  written  materials  and  presentation  by  the 
Commissioner,  I  believe  I  have  sufficient  information  to  reach  a  fair  decision. 


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Responses  to  Senate  Rules  Committee  Questions 
May  11,  2009 


Statement  of  Goals 

1 .  What  are  your  goals  and  objectives  as  a  commissioner  of  BPH?  How  will 
you  measure  your  success  in  this  term? 

My  goals  and  objectives  are  to  provide  a  fair  hearing  that  offers  the  opportunity  for  all 
participants  to  be  heard.  The  hearing  should  provide  an  open  exchange  so  that  the 
inmate  and  the  panel  have  a  forum  to  learn,  communicate  and  evaluate  all  of  the 
available  information  in  making  a  decision  regarding  suitability. 

2.  In  a  written  response  to  the  Rules  Committee  submitted  before  your 
confirmation  in  2007,  you  said  you  would  measure  your  success  "through 
the  commentary  and  interaction  of  those  attorneys  and  staff  that  that 
have  experienced  my  work  and  provided  feed  back  to  me."  Please 
discuss  what  kind  of  feedback  you've  experienced  and  what  that  has  told 
you  about  your  performance. 

The  longer  I  hold  this  position,  the  more  opportunities  arise  to  receive  feedback  from  the 
attorneys  and  staff.  In  my  conversations  with  inmate's  counsel  and  district  attorney's 
representatives  I  receive  nothing  but  positive  comments  overall  the  content  and  fairness 
of  my  hearings.  Our  conversations  range  in  topic  from  the  hearing  process  to  the 
implementation  of  Proposition  9/Marsey's  Law  as  well  as  other  legal  issues.  I  have 
been  approached  by  inmate's  counsel  offering  letters  of  support  to  the  Senate  Rules 
Committee  for  my  upcoming  Senate  confirmation.  I  have  declined  these  letters  of 
support  and  believe  the  volume  of  my  work  as  a  Commissioner  provides  enough 
information  for  the  Senate  Rules  committee  to  decide  if  I  should  be  confirmed. 

3.  You  have  served  as  a  BPH  member  since  2007.  Do  you  believe  the  lifer 
hearing  process  serves  the  public,  the  inmate,  and  the  victims  equally 
well?  If  you  were  able,  what  improvements  would  you  make? 

The  public,  victims  and  victim's  next  of  kin  are  given  ample  opportunity  to  present  their 
perspectives  and  information  to  the  panel  at  hearing.  The  inmates  would  be  better 
served  if  programs  and  vocational  training  could  become  more  available.  The  current 
budget  deficit  situation  has  made  this  lack  of  programs  and  training  a  critical  issue  for 
inmates.  There  should  be  a  greater  effort  to  invest  in  identifying  and  utilizing  more 
volunteer  assistance  to  provide  the  necessary  and  needed  programming  to  inmates. 

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Training 

The  2005  law  that  created  the  BPH  requires  that  within  60  days  of  appointment  and 
annually  thereafter  commissioners  and  deputy  commissioners  undergo  a  minimum  of 
40  hours  of  training. 

4.  Now  that  you  have  chaired  hearings  since  2007,  how  do  you  evaluate  the 
quality  of  your  training?  You  previously  stated  that  you  believed 
commissioner  training  could  be  improved  with  a  more  gradual  transition 
for  new  members.  Has  this  been  implemented?  Do  you  have  other 
recommendations  for  training  improvement? 

The  training  for  Commissioners  has  improved.  From  my  perspective,  the  new 
Commissioners  were  exposed  to  backlog  issues  and  pressure  to  conduct  hearings 
when  it  would  have  been  more  helpful  for  them  to  gradually  transition  into  their  roles  as 
Commissioners.  I  would  recommend  more  training  sessions  be  provided  and  an 
increase  in  dialog  between  the  Board  of  Parole  Hearings  (BPH)  and  the  Commissioners 
regarding  our  duties. 

5.  You  said  in  2007  that  only  one  of  your  hearings  was  attended  by  someone 
from  BPH  and  that  you  did  not  receive  any  feedback.  Please  discuss  if 
that  has  changed  over  the  past  year. 

I  have  not  had  staff  from  BPH  attend  my  hearings  since  my  confirmation  in 
January  2008. 

6.  When  a  procedural  question  arises  during  a  hearing  you  are  chairing  at 
an  institution,  who  is  available  to  assist  you  to  answer  the  question? 
During  previous  BPH  confirmation  hearings,  board  members  have  raised 
concerns  about  the  lack  of  support  available  to  them  by  phone  from 
Sacramento.  Do  you  believe  you  get  the  help  you  need  in  a  timely  way  so 
that  hearings  are  not  needlessly  delayed? 

I  can  speak  only  to  my  experience  as  a  Commissioner.  There  has  been  one  staff 
member  that  I  have  called,  whom  I  know  will  almost  always  be  available  to  get  my 
answer.  There  have  been  changes  put  in  place  regarding  support  from  BPH 
headquarters,  but  I  call  the  staff  person  I  have  always  called.  There  have  been  no 
delays  in  the  hearings,  as  the  staff  person  I  call  is  reliable  and  responsive  to  my 
questions. 


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7.  What  should  the  Legislature  expect  from  commissioners  regarding 
consistency  in  lifer  hearings?  Should  all  of  the  commissioners  and 
deputy  commissioners  weigh  the  various  factors  in  a  consistent  manner? 

Each  Commissioner  is  provided  with  a  general  format  that  is  followed  at  each  hearing. 
Each  hearing  is  considered  individually  and  each  Commissioner  brings  different 
expertise  and  experience  to  the  table  as  a  hearing  officer.  With  continued  training 
regarding  the  suitability  factors  found  in  Title  15  and  increased  institutional  program 
availability,  suitability  hearings  should  be  somewhat  consistent. 

8.  How  long  should  an  inmate  be  "disciplinary  free"  before  you  consider 
granting  a  release  date,  assuming  all  other  pertinent  issues  indicate 
he/she  is  ready  to  be  released?  Is  there  a  policy?  What  guideline  do  you 
use? 

There  is  no  policy  or  guideline  in  place  regarding  "disciplinary  free"  time  before  an 
inmate  can  be  considered  suitable  for  parole.  The  issues  surrounding  institutional 
misconduct  are  varied  and  broad.  For  example,  violence  and  narcotics  violations  are  of 
great  concern.  In  these  cases,  it  is  imperative  that  the  panel  really  needs  to  do  more 
than  just  report  the  facts  of  the  misconduct,  but  to  actually  look  into  the  write-up  and  ask 
the  inmate  questions  about  the  violation.  In  situations  that  the  misconduct  includes 
repeated  violence  or  narcotic  use,  there  needs  to  be  a  period  of  time  where  the  inmate 
demonstrates  that  he/she  can  conform  to  the  rules  and  regulations  of  the  institution 
before  he/she  can  become  suitable  for  parole.  It  is  also  important  to  take  into 
consideration  the  inmate's  housing.  An  inmate  in  dorm  housing  has  a  much  greater 
challenge  to  remain  disciplinary-free  than  an  inmate  who  is  housed  in  a  cell  and  this 
should  be  taken  into  consideration. 


Proposition  9 

Voters  in  November  2008  enacted  Proposition  9,  a  major  change  in  hearings  for 
life-term  inmates  and  an  expansion  of  victims'  rights.  An  inmate  with  an  indeterminate 
life  sentence  had  been  required  to  receive  an  initial  hearing  one  year  prior  to  the 
inmate's  minimum  eligible  parole  date.  Subsequent  hearings  occurred  between  one 
and  five  years  apart  for  murder  convictions,  and  between  one  and  two  years  apart  for 
non-murder  convictions.  Under  the  new  law,  one-year  denials  are  no  longer  an  option. 
Commissioners  must  first  consider  a  15-year  denial.  Commissioners  also  must  use  a 
"clear  and  convincing  evidence"  standard  in  determining  the  appropriate  denial  length, 
down  to  a  three-year  denial — now  the  minimum  time  allowed  between  hearings. 
However,  inmates  are  able  to  periodically  request  that  the  board  advance  the  hearing 
date. 


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9.  What  changes  in  hearings  have  you  seen  as  a  result  of  the  passage  of 
Proposition  9,  and  how  have  they  impacted  the  board's  workload? 

The  number  of  victims  and  victim's  next  of  kin  in  attendance  at  hearing  has  increased 
and  the  scope  and  length  of  their  statements  has  expanded  as  a  result  of  the  passage 
of  Proposition  9/Marsy's  law.  Additionally,  the  analysis  and  decision  regarding 
suitability  has  become  more  complex  and  involved,  particularly  the  delivery  of  the  final 
decision  when  a  denial  is  the  result.  The  hearings  are  taking  longer  and  this  results  in 
longer  work  days  at  the  institution. 

10.  Commissioners  were  provided  additional  training  to  deal  with  changes 
brought  by  Proposition  9.  Please  explain  how  you  were  told  to  determine 
what  "clear  and  convincing  evidence"  is.  How  do  you  know  whether  to 
deny  parole,  for  example,  for  15  years  or  3  years? 

We  received  training  in  December  2008  from  BPH  legal  staff  and  subject  matter  experts 
on  what  clear  and  convincing  evidence  means  and  how  it  applies  to  the  denial  decisions 
at  lifer  hearings.  In  determining  the  length  of  the  denial,  my  view  of  a  15-year  denial 
arises  when  an  inmate's  performance  in  prison  falls  short  of  positive  progress.  As  an 
example,  the  inmate's  classification  score  is  in  the  triple  digits,  there  are  disciplinary 
actions  for  violence,  Administrative  Segregation  Housing  placements,  limited  or  no 
programming,  no  parole  plans  and  a  refusal  to  work  with  the  staff  at  the  institution  would 
require  a  15-year  denial.  The  most  difficult  denial  length  is  the  3-year  denial  because  in 
my  view,  it  is  too  long  for  those  inmates  who  are  close  to  suitability.  These  inmates  are 
the  mirror  opposite  of  the  inmate  in  the  above  example. 

11.  How  are  you  kept  abreast  of  legal  actions  that  could  impact 
implementation  of  Proposition  9? 

The  BPH  legal  staff  provides  legal  updates  during  the  month  via  e-mail  or  voicemail  and 
also  during  our  monthly  Board  meetings.  I  have  also  experienced  inmate's  counsel  to 
be  very  helpful  as  a  resource  for  legal  information. 

1 2.  Are  you  seeing  changes  in  your  workload  as  a  result  of  the  passage  of 
Proposition  9? 

As  stated  in  my  previous  response  to  question  #9,  the  number  of  victims  and  victim's 
next  of  kin  attending  hearings  has  increased,  as  well  as  the  expansion  of  the  scope  and 
length  of  their  statements.  Additionally,  the  analysis  and  decision-making  process  for 
each  of  the  hearings  has  become  more  complex  and  involved.  The  hearings  are  taking 
longer  due  to  these  issues. 


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Programs 

Prisons  have  a  wide  variety  of  academic  and  vocational  programs  as  well  as 
self-help  offerings,  such  as  Alcoholics  Anonymous.  Commissioners  may  recommend 
an  inmate  enroll  in  a  particular  program  to  better  prepare  himself  or  herself  for  life 
outside  of  prison 

13.  If  you  recommend  participation  in  a  specific  program  for  an  inmate,  are 
you  certain  it  is  available  to  the  inmate?  Commissioners  are  now 
supposed  to  receive  updated  profiles  outlining  programs  offered  at  each 
institution.  Do  you  receive  those  lists? 

We  were  provided  a  comprehensive  list  of  all  available  programming  at  each  institution 
in  December  2008.  The  expectation  is  that  this  listing  will  be  updated  and  provided  to 
Commissioners  on  a  semi-annual  basis.  As  time  passes,  the  accuracy  of  this  listing 
comes  into  question.  I  have  conducted  hearings  long  enough  now  to  have  a  fairly  good 
understanding  of  what  institutions  have  which  programs.  Several  times  each  month, 
I  contact  the  correctional  staff  and  Classification  and  Parole  Representative  at  the 
institution  to  get  an  update  on  what  programs  are  currently  available. 

14.  Also  in  your  written  responses  in  2007,  you  said  your  workload  had 
prevented  you  from  observing  prison  programs.  Given  the  relatively 
large  number  of  hearings  cancelled  in  past  years  on  the  day  of  the 
hearing,  when  were  you  able  to  take  time  to  observe  programs,  if  at  all? 
Please  be  specific.  How  do  you  evaluate  which  programs  are  effective? 

I  have  observed  the  Substance  Abuse  Program  (SAP)  at  the  California  State 
Prison-Solano.  I  was  given  a  tour  of  the  program  and  was  informed  that  this  program  is 
in  various  stages  of  implementation  in  other  prisons.  I  spoke  with  several  inmates  about 
the  program  during  my  tour  that  had  received  high  quality  training  and  were  going  to  be 
the  providers/leads  in  the  programs  for  the  inmates.  I  have  also  toured  the  Prison 
Industries  Authority  program  at  Avenal.  My  evaluation  of  the  programs  available  to  the 
inmates  comes  from  speaking  with  the  inmates  during  hearings. 

15.  What  role  do  you  play,  if  any,  in  recommending  programs  to  CDCR? 
Would  you  ever  recommend  increased  education  or  literacy  as  a  way  to 
help  an  inmate  become  more  suitable  for  parole? 

I  have  submitted  a  number  of  written  and  verbal  recommendations  to  CDCR,  institutions 
and  BPH  regarding  improvements  in  programming. 


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16.  As  the  department  moves  to  focus  academic  and  vocational  programs  on 
inmates  being  paroled  in  the  coming  three  years,  how  will  life-term 
inmates  obtain  the  wide  variety  of  programming  commissioners 
recommend  for  them  to  qualify  for  release?  Do  BPH  members  participate 
in  these  policy  decisions? 

Although  BPH  does  not  currently  participate  in  the  CDCR  policy  decisions,  I  will 
continue  to  make  suggestions  recommending  a  focus  on  strengthening  volunteer  efforts 
in  providing  educational  and  vocational  programming.  The  current  budget  situation  will 
not  improve  soon  and  there  are  far  too  many  groups  competing  for  what  funds  are 
available.  One  untapped  resource  is  the  growing  number  of  retirees  with  experience 
and  expertise  in  education  and  vocations.  The  only  institution  I  am  aware  of  that 
engages  in  development  of  volunteer  programs  is  San  Quentin.  They  have  a  number  of 
very  successful  programs. 

17.  The  lifer  panel  has,  by  tradition,  expected  lifers  to  provide  specific  parole 
plans  at  the  time  of  the  lifers'  hearings.  In  an  economy  where 
unemployment  is  climbing  and  finding  a  job  has  become  increasingly 
difficult,  even  for  those  with  good  job  skills,  has  your  expectation  about 
the  specificity  of  a  lifer's  parole  plans  changed?  Do  you  require  a  lifer  to 
have  secured  a  job  on  the  outside  at  an  unspecified  future  date  should  he 
or  she  be  found  suitable  for  parole?  Are  you  aware  of  any  assistance 
provided  to  lifers  who  are  expected  to  present  you  with  parole  plans? 

There  is  no  requirement  that  an  inmate  have  a  job  or  job  offer  to  be  found  suitable  for 
parole.  An  inmate's  parole  plans  must  be  realistic  or  have  developed  a  marketable  skill 
that  can  be  put  to  use  upon  release.  The  economy  has  indeed  changed  and  made  it 
more  challenging  for  inmates  who  have  received  grants  of  parole.  I  strongly  urge 
inmates  and  their  attorneys  to  consider  the  many  transitional  housing  options  and  many 
social  service  agencies  who  work  specifically  with  inmates  to  find  jobs  and  job 
placements.  In  those  cases  where  jobs  are  difficult  to  find,  I  look  to  close  family  ties  or 
job  placements  services  or  transitional  housing  programs  to  aid  the  inmate  in 
successfully  reintegrating  into  the  community. 


Psychological  Evaluations 

The  packet  of  materials  available  to  the  hearing  panel  traditionally  includes  a 
psychological  evaluation  of  the  inmate.  The  timeliness  and  quality  of  the  evaluation  has 
been  criticized  in  the  past  by  all  parties.  The  historic  lack  of  clear  BPH  policy  regarding 
the  appropriate  interval  between  evaluations  has  been  discussed  regularly  by  the  Rules 
Committee.  The  absence  of  a  "current"  psychological  evaluation  is  often  the  reason  for 
a  hearing  postponement. 


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Recently,  BPH  introduced  a  new  strategy  as  part  of  its  effort  to  reduce  the  backlog  of 
lifer  hearings.  A  psychological  evaluation,  called  a  Comprehensive  Risk 
Assessment  (CRA),  has  been  implemented  and  will  be  valid  for  five  years. 
A  secondary  report,  known  as  a  Subsequent  Risk  Assessment,  will  be  conducted  as  an 
update  for  hearings  held  prior  to  the  five-year  expiration  of  the  CRA.  Reports  completed 
prior  to  January  1,  2009,  will  remain  valid  for  three  years  from  their  completion  date,  or 
until  used  in  a  hearing  resulting  in  a  decision. 

18.  What  is  your  recent  experience  with  psychological  evaluations?  Are  they 
still  a  cause  of  hearing  postponements? 

There  has  been  dramatic  improvement  in  the  timely  completion  of  the  psychological 
reports  for  suitability  hearings  since  June  2008.  The  number  of  postponements  for  lack 
of  completed  psychological  reports  has  dropped  so  dramatically  that  I  haven't  had  one 
in  over  a  month  and  it  is  seldom  a  reason  for  postponement  any  more. 

19.  How  have  you  been  trained  regarding  the  role  a  psychological  evaluation 
should  play  in  your  decision  regarding  parole  suitability?  How  much 
weight  should  it  be  given? 

The  Commissioners  received  training  on  how  a  psychological  report  comes  into 
consideration  at  a  lifer  hearing  at  the  December  2008  training.  This  report  is  another 
piece  of  information  for  the  panel  to  consider  in  determining  an  inmate's  suitability. 
The  report  provides  much  information  about  the  inmate's  understanding  of  his  criminal 
conduct,  insight  into  the  causes  of  his  criminal  behavior,  remorse  for  his  conduct  in 
relation  to  the  victim,  victim's  family  and  society  in  general.  The  information  contained 
in  the  report  is  considered  by  the  panel  and  weighed  with  all  the  other  information  using 
the  Title  1 5  factors  of  suitability. 

20.  Do  you  believe  the  risk  assessment  information  contained  in  the 
psychological  evaluation  is  useful  to  you  in  making  a  decision? 

The  risk  assessment  information  is  very  useful  to  the  panel.  Each  assessment  is  based 
on  information  found  in  the  report.  This  information  is  considered  by  the  panel  with  all 
other  relevant  information  concerning  suitability. 


Hearings 

BPH  members  conduct  their  hearings  in  close  quarters,  inside  state  prisons  in 
two-person  panels.  Sometimes  commissioners  hold  hearings  for  out-of-state  inmates 
via  telephone  from  a  hearing  room  in  Sacramento.  Most  hearing  documents  are 
forwarded  to  them  just  prior  to  the  hearings. 


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21.  Your  working  conditions  can  be  difficult  and  your  hearings  can  be  long. 
Do  you  have  any  suggestions  for  how  the  process  could  be  improved? 

Quite  frankly,  I  enjoy  the  travel  and  only  when  a  hearing  goes  well  into  the  evening  does 
the  schedule  get  to  be  difficult  to  handle.  One  suggestion  I  would  make  is  that  no 
hearing  should  begin  after  5  or  6  p.m. 

22.  When  do  you  prepare  for  hearings?  When  is  the  board  packet  made 
available  to  you?  Is  new  information  often  provided  to  you  just  before  a 
hearing  commences?  Please  evaluate  the  current  system  and  discuss 
your  ability  to  completely  review  the  file  and  be  fully  prepared. 

For  the  past  several  years,  I  have  decided  to  drive  to  BPH  headquarters  and  pick  up  my 
board  packets  and  mail.  I  receive  the  board  packets  several  weeks  in  advance. 
My  preparation  for  hearings  has  become  more  efficient,  and  takes  me  less  time  than 
when  I  first  started.  New  information  is  provided  in  the  week  before  the  hearing  but  that 
has  become  a  less  frequent  occurrence.  Inmates  and  their  counsel  will  frequently 
present  information  prior  to  the  commencement  of  the  hearing. 

23.  Please  evaluate  the  en  banc  hearing  process.  When  the  full  board  is 
asked  to  decide  a  case  because  of  a  split  decision  between  the  BPH 
member  and  deputy  commissioner  on  the  two  person  lifer  panel,  or  when 
the  Governor  asks  the  board  to  look  at  information  he  believes  was 
overlooked  initially,  do  you  believe  you  have  the  information  you  need  to 
reach  a  fair  decision? 

We  receive  all  the  necessary  information  to  make  an  informed  and  fair  decision  during 
the  En  Banc  process.  Rather  than  disagreeing  or  agreeing  with  the  Governor's 
concerns,  I  would  recommend  that  the  full  Board  have  the  opportunity  to  respond  in 
writing. 


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Maa    04    09     11:48a 


Adam  Hubbard 

Goats 


May  1,  2009 

Senate  Rules  Committee 
Darrell  Steinberg,  Chair 
State  Capital  -  Room  420 
Sacramento,  CA  95814-4900 

RE:  California  Arts  Council  appointment  STATEMENT  for  confirmation  hearing  on  June  3,  2009 

Dear  Senate  Rules  Committee  Members, 

For  the  past  18  years  I  have  been  an  Art  Educatorteaching  Ceramics,  Drawing,  and  Paintingto 
children  and  young  adults.  During  this  time  in  both  private  and  public  schools  -  as  well  as  in  the 
mental  health  field  working  with  at-risk  children  and  young  adults  -- 1  have  seen  a  huge  change 
of  direction  concerning  support  for  the  arts  and  arts  education.  When  budgets  are  questioned 
and  funding  is  tight,  the  visual  and  performing  arts  are  the  first  subjects  to  be  cut.  This  is  a 
growing  problem,  one  that  does  a  great  disservice  to  the  youth  of  our  state.  The  arts  are  not  a 
luxury.  They  are  essential  Arts  education  can  benefit  every  young  person's  development, 
intellect,  self-confidence  and  imagination. 

It  is  a  proven  fact  that  the  creative  process  of  making  art  develops  and  uses  the  entire  brain, 
and  not  -  as  was  thought  in  the  past  --  isolated  parts  of  the  brain,  what  is  commonly  described 
as  "right-brain"  thinking3.  Research  shows  that  the  creative  process  of  art-making  makes  people 
smarter,  makes  them  more  aware  of  their  surroundings,  and  facilitates  problem  solving.  Given 
this  new  understanding  of  the  creative  process,  ft  makes  sense  that  schools  implement  more 
visual  and  performing  arts  education  into  their  schools,  not  less. 

There  has  to  be  a  balance,  rather  than  disregarding  or  brushing  off  the  importance  of  art  to  our 
society.  Incorporating  the  arts  into  everyday  life  provides  measurable  benefits.  My  short  and 
long  term  goals  are  to  press  on  as  an  advocate  for  the  arts  in  our  communities  and  in  our 
schools,  and  to  continue  to  inspire,  inform,  and  educate  with  extreme  fervor  and  dedication. 
The  most  effective  way  to  reach  my  audience  is  to  incorporate  the  past  with  the  present  in  an 
historical  framework.  The  arts  are  an  integral  component  in  ongoing  discoveries  in  the 
academic  fields  of  math,  science,  and  language  arts. 

I  believe  that  as  the  sole  full-time  arts  educator  on  the  California  Arts  Council,  I  can  serve  as  the 
voice  of  the  visual  and  performing  arts  teachers  in  California,  as  well  as  a  voice  for  the  children 
and  youth  who  are  eager  to  express  themselves  artistically  and  are  craving  knowledge  of  the 
visual  and  performing  arts.  I  believe  that  my  serving  on  the  California  Arts  Council  may  benefit 
the  state  of  California  through  my  insight  into  visual  art  education  and  my  knowledge  of  the 
educational  system  as  a  whole. 


Sincerely, 


Adam  Hubbard 


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*  Learning,  Arts  and  the  Brain:  the  Dana  Consortium  Report  on  Arts  and  Cognition,  released  on  March  4,  2008,  and 
organized  by  Vlichael  Gazzaniga,  Dn  D.,  University  sf  California  at  Sarta  Barbara,  v*    *«.*  (PoTfflt&litifiC 


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ROBERT  T.  DOYLE 

Sheriff 

TIMOTHY  J.  LITTLE 

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Marin  County  Sheriff's  Office 

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May  18,  2009 


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The  Honorable  Darrell  Steinberg,  Chairman 
Senate  Ruies  Committee 
State  Capitol,  Room  420 
Sacramento,  CA  95814-4900 

Dear  Chairman  Steinberg: 

In  response  to  your  ietter  dated  April  29,  2009,  below  I  will  be  providing  the 
information  that  you  requested.  For  your  information  I  was  appointed  to  the 
POST  Commission  by  Governor  Schwarzenegger  in  2006  and  confirmed  by  the 
Senate  in  the  spring  of  2007.  I  represent  the  California  State  Sheriffs 
Association  on  the  Commission.  In  addition  to  attending  the  Commission 
meetings  I  am  also  a  member  of  the  Long  Range  Planning  and  Legislative 
Committees. 

Most  of  the  information  that  you  are  requesting  is  similar  to  my  response  in 
March  of  2007,  so  I  am  providing  you  a  copy  of  that  letter.  Also  included  are  a 
number  of  attachments  for  background  information  for  the  Senate  Rules 
Committee.  My  responses  are  my  views  as  I  see  the  Commission  in 
conjunction  with  discussions  I  have  had  with  POST  Staff  in  preparation  of  my 
responses.  I  have  also  enclosed  my  Form  700. 

Goals 

1 .  Are  you  satisfied  with  your  progress  toward  meeting  these  goals?  How 
do  you  measure  progress?  How  have  your  goals  changed  since  you 
were  first  appointed? 

Senate  Rules  Committee 

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Services 

499-6584 

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499-6655 

Major  Crimes 

Task  Force 

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Records 

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I  am  satisfied  with  the  progress  of  these  goals  as  stated  in  my  letter 
dated  March  20,  2007.  The  goals  of  the  Commission  and  POST  Staff 
really  represent  the  foundation  in  which  POST  can  deliver  an  outstanding 
product.  I  found  it  easy  to  measure  the  progress  because  the  POST 
Strategic  Plan  is  on  the  Agenda  every  POST  meeting  and  additionally  I 
am  a  member  of  the  Long  Range  Planning  Committee  that  reviews 
progress.  My  goals  remain  the  same.  See  Attachment  A. 

Recruitment 

2.  What  is  the  status  of  any  initiatives  the  Commission  has  taken  to  steer 
youth  toward  careers  in  law  enforcement?  What  outcomes,  if  any,  have 
you  experienced  so  far? 

To  my  knowledge  this  is  not  a  Commission  initiative.  In  terms  of 
"steering  youth  toward  careers  in  law  enforcement '  the  Commission  is 
interested  and  is  monitoring  a  number  of  programs  throughout  the  State. 
Most  law  enforcement  agencies  throughout  the  state  have  always  had 
Explorer  Scout  Programs,  Internship  Programs  and  a  variety  of 
Volunteer  Programs  that  include  youth  participation.  I  am  including 
Attachment  B  which  describes  some  of  the  programs  law  enforcement 
agencies  are  involved  in  across  the  State  and  these  are  programs  that 
Post  Staff  is  aware  of  and  monitoring.  Independent  of  the  POST 
Commission  my  organization  offers  a  number  of  opportunities  for  youth 
in  our  community.  Some  programs  introduce  youth  to  the  operation  of 
the  organization  and  other  programs  such  as  Search  and  Rescue 
expose  youth  to  technical  skills  and  life  skills  such  as  teamwork,  self 
esteem,  confidence,  etc.  Other  programs  provide  information  and/or 
skills  necessary  for  a  peace  officer  applicant. 

3.  What  have  you  done  to  help  departments  recruit  qualified  candidates? 
What  steps  have  you  taken  to  help  departments  weed  out  potentially 
subpar  employees  before  they  are  hired? 

Since  1989  POST  has  conducted  five  recruitment  symposiums.  The  two 
largest  ones  took  place  in  2001  and  2005.  Each  involved  presentations 
by  subject  matter  experts  about  recruitment  and  retention  issues.  Several 
hundred  representatives  of  law  enforcement  agencies  attended  these 
symposia.  POST  also  provided  training  with  an  emphasis  on  the  needs 
of  executives  and  recruiters. 

Strategic  Plan  objective  C.3.06  -  Develop  a  comprehensive  plan  for 
POST'S  role  in  addressing  law  enforcement  recruitment  issues,  has 
guided  the  efforts  of  POST  staff  to  address  recruitment  issues  since 
2006.  At  the  2008  Strategic  Plan  Stakeholders  meeting,  it  was 


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recommended  that  public  safety  dispatchers  be  included  in  the 
recruitment  plan. 

In  2001  and  again  in  2006,  POST  conducted  considerable  research  into 
the  issues  surrounding  recruitment  and  retention  of  peace  officers.  The 
result  of  the  research  was  the  development  of  two  publications,  Peace 
Officer  Recruitment  and  Retention:  Best  Practices  -  July  2001 
f http://www.post.ca.qov/selection/recruit.pdf)  and  Recruitment  and 
Retention  Best  Practices  Update -April  2006 

(http://www.post.ca.gov/training/bestpractices/RecruitmentBestPrac.pdf). 
Both  documents  provide  sound  methods  for  improving  the  efforts  of  law 
enforcement  agencies  tc  successfully  recruit  and  retain  peace  officers. 

I  believe  it  is  POSTs  responsibility  to  develop  the  necessary  tools  for  law 
enforcement  to  establish  the  criteria  by  which  all  law  enforcement  recruit 
peace  officers.  I  believe  if  followed  most  "sub  par  aoplicants"  won't  make 
it  through  the  entire  process  and  will  not  be  hired.  That  being  said  there 
is  no  screening  process  that  is  fool  proof  and  everyone  in  law 
enforcement  has  to  be  diligent  and  look  for  those  signs  and  take  the 
appropriate  action. 

What  impact  has  the  nation's  slowing  economy  had  on  recruitment  of 
officers?  Do  you  see  a  wider  role  for  the  Commission  in  publicizing  the 
need  for  qualified  police  personnel? 

There  has  been  a  state-wide  crisis  in  recruitment  and  retention  for  quite 
some  time.  There  are  many  agencies  concerned  about  the  shrinking 
pool  of  eligible  applicants.  The  results  of  a  comprehensive  survey 
conducted  by  POST  in  2007  revealed  that  agencies  wanted  POST  to 
invest  in  marketing,  regional  testing,  recruiter  training  and  development 
of  best  practices  on  recruitment  and  pre-academy  preparation  materials 
for  candidates.  In  addition,  POST  will  soon  publish  a  Recruitment 
Strategic  Planning  Guide  which  I  think  will  be  helpful  in  the  effort. 
Additionally,  each  individual  agency  has  a  stake  in  marketing  and 
attracting  and  retaining  qualified  employees.  I  believe  that  this  needs  to 
be  a  partnership  between  POST  and  law  enforcement  agencies. 

What  role  should  the  Commission  play,  if  any,  in  working  with  high 
schools  or  middle  schools  to  address  California's  high  dropout  rate? 

As  a  social  responsibility  I  am  sure  I  can  speak  for  my  colleagues  on  the 
POST  Commission  when  I  say  the  drop  out  rate  in  California  is 
inexcusable.  I  think  when  ever  we  lose  one  kid  to  drop  out  we  have  all 
failed.  In  my  community  we  have  developed  a  School  Law  Enforcement 
Partnership  where  we  address  truancy,  bullying,  gang  violence,  etc.  The 


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POST  Commission's  role  is  establishing  training  standards  for  peace 
officers  state- wide. 

Training 

6.   How  have  recent  budget  cuts  impacted  your  training  programs?  Are  you 
encouraging  agencies  to  utilize  more  online  courses? 

During  these  challenging  economic  times,  POST  is  well  aware  of  the 
limitations  many  cities  and  counties  have  placed  on  staff  travel.  This  is 
reflected  in  reduced  numbers  of  trainees  being  able  to  travel  to  a  training 
site  to  receive  training.  POST  has  reacted  to  this  reality  by  ensuring  that  its 
staff  keeps  the  law  enforcement  community  informed  about  the  availability  of 
online  training.  Some  of  the  benefits  of  online  training  include  access  to 
training  24/7,  consistent  quality  of  training,  the  ability  of  rural  agencies  to 
more  easily  access  needed  training,  savings  in  travel/presentation  costs, 
and  economies  of  scale  where  the  more  training  that  takes  place  the  less  it 
costs  per  student. 

Website 


7.  What  plans  do  you  have  to  regularly  update  your  web  site  ?  What  do  you 
believe  is  POST'S  responsibility  to  communicate  with  the  public  through 
its  web  site? 

I  am  surprised  by  the  question.  To  my  knowledge  the  website  is 
regularly  updated  and  in  terms  of  POSTs  responsibility  to  communicate 
with  the  public  the  POST  Staff  is  currently  complying  with  the  law  and 
various  executive  orders  issued  by  the  Governor's  Office  in  terms  of 
public  access.  Of  course  the  public  does  not  have  access  to  training 
portal  because  a  password  is  required. 

If  you  have  any  further  questions,  please  feel  free  to  contact  me. 


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ATTACHMENT  A 


California  Commission  on  Peace  Officer  Standards  &  Training 

Strategic  Plan -2008 

1601  Alhambra  Blvd.  -  Sacramento,  CA  95816  -  (916)  227-3909  -  www.post.ca.gov 


rVMI: 


REVISED  2/09/09 


The  mission  of  the  California  Commission  on  Peace  Officer  Standards  and  Training  (POST)  is  to 
continually  enhance  the  professionalism  of  California  law  enforcement.  To  accomplish  this 
important  responsibility,  this  Strategic  Plan  aligns  POST'S  activities  and  priorities  with  the  needs  and 
expectations  of  POST'S  clients  and  partners.  It  provides  direction  for  POST  to  achieve  its  mission, 
to  develop  future  budget  requests,  and  to  set  priorities.  The  Plan  provides  guidance  not  only  for 
"what"  POST  does,  but  also  for  "how"  POST  will  accomplish  its  goals  and  objectives. 

POST  wishes  to  thank  all  those  law  enforcement  and  training  professionals  who  dedicated  their  time 
and  talents  in  providing  input  into  the  revisions  included  in  this  Strategic  Plan. 

Questions  concerning  this  Plan  should  be  directed  to  Assistant  Executive  Director  Alan  Deal  at 
(916)227-2807. 


Goal  A  -  Raise  the  Bar  on  Selection  and  Training  Standards 


SPO#: 
A.1.02 


Establish  personality  assessment  for  entry-level  selection. 


Status  on: 

2/09/09 


In  progress.  In  April  2007,  the  Commission  approved  a  staff  recommendation  to  develop  a 
resource  document  and  monitor  agencies  using  pre-employment  personality  assessment  tests. 
The  resource  document  is  nearly  complete  and  staff  has  compiled  a  searchable  database  of 
information  from  test  publishers  to  assist  agencies  interested  in  using  pre-offer  personality  tests. 
The  resource  document  will  be  available  on  the  POST  website  and  the  test  publisher  information 
will  be  available  via  a  separate  online  database.  The  project  is  expected  to  be  completed  in  July 
09. 


Bureau(s)  Assigned: 

S&E 


Staff  Assigned: 

Berner 


Completion  Anticipated: 

Jul-09 


Notes 

and/or 

Strategies: 


SPOfc 

A.2.08 


Review  POST'S  Continuing  Professional  Training  (CPT)  and  Perishable  Skills  Program 
(PSP)  requirement  to  include  assessment  of  needs,  content,  benefits,  time/hours  and 
frequency. 


Status  on: 

2/09/09 


In  progress.  Staff  has  reviewed  POST  CPT  history  and  is  comparing  standards  to  those  of  other 
IADLEST  members.  A  report  to  the  Commission  will  be  made  in  July  2009. 


Bureau(s)  Assigned: 
TPS 


Staff  Assigned: 

Gustafson 


Completion  Anticipated: 

Jul-09 


Notes 
and/or 

Strategies: 


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Goal  A  -  Raise  the  Bar  on  Selection  and  Training  Standards 


SPO#: 

A.3.02 


Research  and  develop  physical  abilities  assessment  for  entry  into  basic  academies. 


Status  on: 

2/09/09 


On  hold.  Work  has  been  temporarily  stopped  pending  revaluation  of  the  Basic  Academy 
Physical  Conditioning  Program.  A  report  to  the  Commission  will  be  made  in  April  2009. 


Bureau(s)  Assigned: 
S&E 


Staff  Assigned: 
Catlin 


Completion  Anticipated: 
Jul-10 


Notes 

and/or 

Strategies: 


Recent  BCCR  findings  reflect  few  academies  are  conducting  a  standardized  physical  conditioning 
program;  thus  compromising  the  defensibility  of  a  standardized  assessment  test  minimum 
passing  score.  Staff  has  begun  work  to  review  and  revise  the  conditioning  program  before 
continuing  with  the  assessment  test  pilot  implementation. 


SPO#: 
A.4.02 


Standardize  skill  testing  for  the  Basic  Course. 


Status  on: 

2/09/09 


In  progress.  Skill-based  competencies  and  scoring  criteria  have  been  developed  for  Defensive 
Tactics,  Vehicle  Operations,  and  Firearms.  A  pilot  study  of  the  Arrest  Methods  form  will  be 
concluded  this  Spring.  Further  work  on  the  Vehicle  Operations  procedures  will  address  new 
training  and  assessment  needs  identified  in  the  Driver  Training  Study.  A  report  to  the  Commission 
will  be  made  in  April  2009. 


Bureau(s)  Assigned: 

S&E 


Staff  Assigned: 

Krueger/Foster 


Completion  Anticipated: 

Apr- 10 


Notes 

and/or 

Strategies: 


The  project's  products  have  been  well  received  by  the  academies. 


SPO#: 
A.5.04 


Develop  a  guideline  manual  describing  the  process  for  law  enforcement  to  integrate 
POST'S  selection  guidelines  and  standards. 


Status  on: 

2/09/09 


In  progress.  Staff  is  developing  a  guidelines  document  manual  in  a  question  and  answer  format 
to  support  and  assist  agencies  in  implementing  the  selection  standards  for  peace  officers  and 
public  safety  dispatchers  that  were  approved  at  the  January  2009  Commission  meeting. 


Bureau(s)  Assigned: 

S&E 


Staff  Assigned: 

Spilberg 


Completion  Anticipated: 

Ju!-09 


Notes 

and/or 

Strategies: 


The  guidelines  manual  will  be  presented  to  the  Commission  for  approval  at  its  July  2009  meeting. 
This  will  allow  publication  of  the  document  to  coincide  with  the  implementation  of  the  selection 
standards,  which  are  under  review  by  the  Office  of  Administrative  Law. 


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Goal  A  -  Raise  the  Bar  on  Selection  and  Training  Standards 


Status  on: 


8/19/08 

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Compare  POST'S  selection  and  training  standards  to  those  in  other  states  as  articulated  in 
A  6  OSsfthe  IADLEST  Sourcebook  for  the  purpose  of  identifying  potential  improvements. 


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Staff  Assigned: 
Luke 


Completion  Anticipated: 

Completed !  ^ 


Notes 

and/or 

Strategies: 


Deleted  by  Commission  action  at  the  July  2008  meeting 


SPO#: 

A.7.06 


Develop   a 
prospective 


for 


.tatuson: 

11/21/08 


Deleted.  POST'S  website  has  been  revised  to  include  a  candidate  information  page  which 
provides  downloadable  information  on  self-assessment  and  preparation  guidelines  for  entry  into 
anacademy. 


Bureau(s)  Assigned: 


:s&e 


Staff  Assigned: 

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Smgley 


Completion  Anticipated: 

Completed;      ; 


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Deleted  by  Commission 


action  at  the  October  2008  meetinq. 

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SPO#: 

A.8.08 


Expand  cognitive  testing  for  peace  officers. 


Status  on: 

2/09/09 


In  progress.  In  January  2008,  the  Commission  approved  the  staff  recommendation  to  expand  the 
POST  Entry-Level  Law  Enforcement  Test  Battery  (PELLETB).  Staff  has  entered  into  an 
interagency  agreement  with  California  State  University,  Sacramento  (CSUS)  to  assist  with  data 
collection,  analysis,  and  interpretation  efforts  for  the  project.  Staff  has  met  with  CSUS  researchers 
and  defined  the  scope  of  the  project  and  begun  assigning  responsibilities. 


Bureau(s)  Assigned: 
S&E 


Staff  Assigned: 

Wisnia/Brown 


Completion  Anticipated: 
Dec-10 


Notes 

and/or 

Strategies: 


A  report  to  the  Commission  will  be  made  in  July  2009. 


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SPO#: 
A.9.08 


Status  on: 

1/22/09 

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Deleted.  Staff  developed  pre-academy  report  writing  curriculum  that  presenters  can  voluntarily 


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signed: 


Staff  Ass 


Completion  Anticipated: 
Jan-09 


20p9;rheeting.: 


Goal  B  -  Improve  the  Quality  and  Impact  of  Training 


B.1.02 


Establish  instructor  training  and  certification  requirements. 


Deleted.  The  Instructor  Development  Institute  has  been  piloted.  Participation  in  the  Academy 
Instructor  Certificate  Program  was  mandatory  as  of  March  1,  2008. 


Bureau(s)  Assigned: 

TPS 

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sStaftAssigned: 

^Gustafscin?  ; 


Completion  Anticipated: 

Completed 


Notes  - 
and/or 
Strategies: 


Deleted  by  Commission  action  at  ihe7  October  2008 .meeting". 


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SPO#: 
B.2.08 


Establish  a  searchable  database  in  order  to  share  "best  practices"  and  successes  in 
training  that  emanate  from  nominations  for  the  POST  Excellence  in  Training  Award. 


Status  on: 

2/09/09 


In  progress.  It  has  been  determined  that  the  ideal  location  for  a  best  practices  data  base  would  be 
within  the  Learning  Portal,  under  a  specific  identifiable  section  utilizing  existing  functionality.  As 
such,  this  program  can  be  created  without  any  additional  expenditure.  It  is  anticipated  that 
implementation  of  this  database  program  will  commence  during  Spring  2009.  A  report  containing 
the  foregoing  information  was  submitted  to  the  Commission  at  its  January  2009  meeting. 


Bureau(s)  Assigned: 
TPS 


Staff  Assigned: 

Crume 


Completion  Anticipated: 
Jul-09 


Notes 

and/or 

Strategies: 


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Goal  B  -  Improve  the  Quality  and  Impact  of  Training 


SPO#: 

B.3.04 


Provide  to  POST'S  Regional  Skills  Training  Centers  updated  driver  training  and  force 
options  simulators  and  program  software. 


Status  on; 

2/09/09 


In  progress.  At  its  January  2009  meeting,  the  Commission  approved  the  plan  for  LEDS 
acquisition  and  placement.  A  LEDS  Law  Enforcement  Specifications/Evaluation  Team  has  met 
twice  in  a  concentrated  effort  to  accelerate  the  purchase  process.  Staff  have  been  working 
closely  with  Department  of  General  Services  for  designing  the  RFP  and  in  financing  the 
purchase.  It  is  intended  the  RFP  be  out  by  early  March,  with  the  goal  of  awarding  a  contract  to 
purchase  108  simulators  before  the  end  of  the  current  fiscal  year. 


Bureau(s)  Assigned: 

TPS 


Staff  Assigned: 

Sorg 


Completion  Anticipated: 
Apr-09 


Notes 

and/or 

Strategies: 


SPO#: 

B.4.06 

Study  the  feasibility  of  developing  technology-based  training  tools  that  provide  just-in- 
time  information  (i.e.,  tutorials,  checklists,  etc.)  for  use  with  technologies  such  as  patrol 
car  computers  and  Personal  Digital  Assistants  (PDAs). 

Status  on: 

2/09/09 

In  progress.  Staff  recently  demonstrated  the  accessibility  of  a  prototype  of  a  decision  support 
tool  for  investigators  via  a  smart  phone  (e.g.,  iPhone).  Should  the  development  of  the  tool 
receive  funding,  further  work  would  be  done  to  optimize  its  availability  via  similar  devices  (e.g., 
Blackberry). 

Bureau(s)  Assigned:                                        Staff  Assigned:                                             Completion  Anticipated: 
TPS/LTRC                                                  Myyra                                                      Apr-1 1 

Notes 

and/or 

Strategies: 

SPO#: 

B.5.06 

Develop  a  Web-based  training  tool  that  would  help  train  investigators  to  efficiently 
develop  search  warrants  for  a  variety  of  crimes. 

Status  on: 

2/09/09 

In  progress.  The  tool  is  in  development  and  being  refined  based  upon  feedback  from  the  target 
audience.  It  is  scheduled  for  completion  Spring:  2009. 

Bureau(s)  Assigned:                                        Staff  Assigned:                                             Completion  Anticipated: 

TPS/LTRC                                                  Myyra                                                       Apr-09 

Notes 

and/or 

Strategies: 

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Goal  B  -  Improve  the  Quality  and  Impact  of  Training 


B.6.08 


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Study  the  feasibility  of  upgrading  the  present  POST  Basic  Course  Certification  Review 


process. 


Deleted.  The  Basic  Course  Certification  Review  process  has  been  enhanced  by. the  development  of  a 
— ^jm^\y^tmd^0sjBased  Acaderr<,  || ,  --,v  z.-i  _a; :  -  |c  p  for  use  by  academies  and  evaluators, 


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Reassignment 

academies),  to  perform  in-depth 


:lusion  of. trained  evaluators  (from 
fesjbg.  Two  other  additions  to  BCCR 


1/22/09 


process  are:  1 )  Standards-Based  Academy  Review  Manual,  contains  definitions  of  the  academy 


requirements  and  instructions  for  use  of  the  checklist;  and. 2)  enhanced  accountability  procedures  (with 
new  deadlines)  to  ensure  academies  address  the  identified  issues  of  non-compliance  with  POST 
regulations.  The  revised  process  was  approved  at  the  Basic  Course  Consortium  meeting  in  December 


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Completion  Anticipated: 
Jan-09 


and/or 
Strategies: 


Deleted  by  Commission  action  at  the  January  2009  meeting. 


SPO#: 

B.7.06 


Develop  a  major-case  management  training  course  for  managers/executives. 


Status  on: 

11/21/08 


In  progress.  At  its  April  2008  meeting,  the  Commission  authorized  development  of  two  courses: 
one  that  addresses  intricacies  and  special  needs  of  complex  investigations,  and  one  that 
emphasizes  the  nuances  of  managing  investigative  units  and  personnel.  Development  of  the 
two  courses  may  proceed  concurrently  under  the  leadership  of  TPS,  with  input  as  required  from 
CLD  for  development  and  presentation  of  the  course. 


Bureau(s)  Assigned: 

TPS/CLD 


Staff  Assigned: 

Brewer 


Completion  Anticipated: 

Oct-09 


Notes 

and/or 

Strategies: 


Time   Line  on   implementation   with   TPS/CLD   has   been   established   -  pilot   presentation 
scheduled  for  July  2009. 


SPO  #: 

B.8.08 


Study  the  feasibility  of  a  model  high  school  program  that  can  be  replicated  statewide. 


Status  on: 

2/09/09 


Not  addressed  -  new  objective. 


Bureau(s)  Assigned: 

BTB/CLD 


Staff  Assigned: 

Kyritsis  /  Ziglar 


Completion  Anticipated: 
Jul-09 


Notes 

and/or 

Strategies: 


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Goal  B  -  Improve  the  Quality  and  Impact  of  Training 


SPO#: 

B.9.08 


Increase  the  availability  of  online  courses  and  performance  support  tools  available  on  the 
POST  Learning  Portal. 


Status  on: 

2/09/09 


In  progress.  A  new  instructor  development  course,  "Target  Your  Teaching,"  is  scheduled  for 
release  in  February.  Other  courses  scheduled  for  Spring  release  include  environmental  crimes, 
search  v/arrants,  and  a  search  warrant  tool.  Courses  on  identity  theft  and  gangs  topics  are 
scheduled  to  be  released  during  late  2009.  A  BCP  to  fund  unspecified  online  training  is  making  its 
way  through  the  budgeting  process.  Should  it  be  successful,  topics  requested  by  the  field  in  a 
recent  survey  (e.g.  narcotics  and  communication)  could  be  developed.  A  report  to  the 
Commission  will  be  made  in  April  2009. 


Bureau(s)  Assigned: 
TPS/LTRC 


Staff  Assigned: 
Myyra 


Completion  Anticipated: 
Apr-09 


Notes 

and/or 

Strategies: 


The  downturn  in  the  economy  and  its  impact  on  local  government,  makes  online  training  a  cost- 
effective  way  for  agencies  to  train  employees  without  incurring  costs  associated  with  sending 
them  away  to  training.  With  this  in  mind,  staff  from  ISB  and  LTRC  will  collaborate  on  developing  a 
marketing  brochure  that  will  be  provided  to  the  law  enforcement  and  public  safety  training 
managers.  The  information  will  also  be  added  to  the  POST  Website. 


SPO#: 
B.10.08 


Enhance  and  continue  the  study  of  driver  training  methods  and  vehicle-related  high-risk 
activities  to  improve  training,  enhance  safety,  and  reduce  preventable  collisions  and 
injuries. 


Status  on: 

2/09/09 


In  progress.  The  Commission  approved  additional  research  funding  at  its  January  2009  meeting. 
The  Vehicle  Operations  Training  Advisory  Council  (VOTAC)  will  meet  in  February  to  help  direct 
new  research  and  provide  recommendations  for  changes/enhancements  to  existing  training.  A 
report  to  the  Commission  will  be  made  in  July  2009. 


Bureau(s)  Assigned: 

TPS 


Staff  Assigned: 

Gustafson 


Completion  Anticipated: 

Jul-09 


Notes 

and/or 
Strategies: 


SPO#: 
B.11.08 


Review  the  POST  Basic  Dispatch  curriculum  and  hours. 


Status  on: 

2.09/09 


In  progress.  A  PSD  Job  Analysis  Update  Meeting  has  been  conducted  and  staff  is  preparing  to 
update  the  Basic  Dispatcher  Course.  The  results  of  the  analysis  indicate  that  although  information 
technologies  have  changed,  the  core  job  remains  nearly  the  same. 


Bureau(s)  Assigned: 

BTB/S&E 


Staff  Assigned: 

Shingara  /  Groome 


Completion  Anticipated: 

Jul-09 


Notes 
and/or 
Strategies: 


A  report  to  the  Commission  will  be  made  in  July  2009. 


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Go>al  B  -  Improve  the  Quality  and  Impact  of  Training 


SPO#: 
B.12.08 


Study  the  feasibility  of  establishing  instructor  training  requirements  for  public  safety 
dispatcher  instructors  for  the  public  safety  dispatcher  course. 


Status  on: 
2/09/09 


In  progress.  Stakeholder  meetings  were  heid  in  three  locations  across  the  state  and  surveys  were 
distributed  to  all  presenters  of  the  Public  Safety  Dispatcher  course.  Results  will  be  shared  with  the 
Instructor  Standards  Advisory  Council  (ISAC)  at  its  Februaty  meeting.  A  Public  Safety  Dispatcner 
has  been  added  to  ISAC  to  help  inform  recommendations  on  tnis  objective.  A  report  to  the 
Commission  will  oe  made  in  April  2009. 


Bureau(s)  Assigned: 

TPS 


Staff  Assigned: 

Gustafson 


Completion  Anticipated: 

Jul-09 


Notes 

and/or 

Strategies: 


SPO#: 
B.13.08 

Study  the  feasibility  of  enhancing  the  ongoing 

evaluation  of  POST  instructors. 

Status  on: 

2/09/09 

Not  addressed  -  new  objective. 

Bureau(s)  Assigned:                                       Staff  Assigned: 

TDC/TPS 

Completion  Anticipated: 

Notes 
and/or 
Strategies: 

SPO#: 
B.14.08 

Study  the  feasibility  of  expanding  the  use  of  blended  learning  to  increase  distance 
learning  (for  CPT)  opportunities. 

Status  on: 

2/09/09 

In  progress.  Staff  is  exploring  the  use  of  the  upcoming  search  warrant  tool  as  a  component  within 
the  ICI  core  course.  A  reoort  to  the  Commission  will  be  made  m  January  2010. 

Bureau(s)  Assigned:                                       Staff  Assigned:                                              Completion  Anticipated: 

TPS/LTRC/CLD                                         Myyra                                                        Jan-10 

Notes 

and/or 

Strategies: 

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Goal  C  -  Enhance  POST'S  Services 


SPO#: 
C.1.08 


Develop  a  training  evaluator  program  to  supplement  POST'S  efforts  to  maintain  course 
quality. 


Status  on: 

2/09/09 


in  progress.  A  process  is  being  piloted  with  students  in  the  Master  level  of  the  Instructor 
Development  Institute  (IDI)  to  partially  address  the  need  in  conjunction  with  students' 
internship/practicum  requirement(s).  A  report  to  the  Commission  will  be  made  in  April  2009. 


Bureau(s)  Assigned: 
TPS 


Staff  Assigned: 
Gustafson 


Completion  Anticipated: 
Jul-09 


Notes 

and/or 

Strategies: 


SPO#: 
C.2.06 


Revise  the  POST  Administrative  Manual  to  make  the  format  more  user-friendly  for  online 
access. 


Status  on: 

2/09/09 


In  progress.  ISB  staff  will  resume  revision  to  the  PAM  on  December  1,  2008,  and  are  anticipating 
submission  of  at  least  one  chapter,  currently  in  progress,  to  the  Commission  at  the  July  2009 
meeting.  ISB  staff  will  continue  to  work  on  the  objective  until  completed  by  submitting  at  least 
one  chapter  per  Commission  meeting  with  the  expected  completion  date  of  December  2010. 


Bureau(s)  Assigned: 
ISB 


Staff  Assigned: 
Paoli 


Completion  Anticipated: 
Dec- 10 


Notes 
and/or 
Strategies: 


SPO#: 
C.3.06 


Develop  a  comprehensive  plan  for  POST'S  role  in  addressing  law  enforcement  recruitment 
issues. 


Status  on: 

2/09/09 


In  progress.  At  its  December  2008  meeting  the  LRPC  decided  that  in  light  of  the  current  fiscal 
crisis  that  a  recruitment  symposium  would  be  cost-prohibitive.  Surveying  of  agencies  during 
December  2008  revealed  that  while  recruitment  remained  a  major  concern  of  agencies  the 
majority  of  agencies  had  no  strategic  plan  that  focused  specifically  on  recruitment.  The  LRPC,  as 
well  as  the  Commission  at  its  January  2009  meeting,  supported  development  of  a  template  that 
could  be  used  by  agencies  to  create  their  own  recruitment  strategic  plan.  It  is  anticipated  a  draft 
of  a  "Recruitment  Strategic  Planning  Guide"  will  be  completed  for  review  by  the  Commission  at  its 
July  2009  meeting. 


Bureau(s)  Assigned: 
TPS 


Staff  Assigned: 

Crume 


Completion  Anticipated: 
Jul-09 


Notes 

and/or 

Strategies: 


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Goal  C  -  Enhance  POST'S  Services 


SPO#: 
C.4.02 


Study  the  feasibility  of  awarding  college  credit  for  select  POST  training  courses  (e.g.,  IDI, 
SBSLI.etc.). 


Status  on: 

2/09/09 


In  progress.  A  website/publication  with  college  credit  information  has  been  developed  and  is 
available  to  the  field.  A  report  to  the  Commission  was  made  in  January  2009,  and  staffs  current 
direction/efforts  were  approved.  Additional  research  continues,  and  a  policy  on  higher  education 
is  being  formulated  within  POST.  A  final  report  and  recommendations  for  the  Commission  will  be 
made  in  October  2009. 


Bureau(s)  Assigned: 
TPS 


Staff  Assigned: 
Gustafson 


Completion  Anticipated: 
Oct-09 


Notes 

and/or 

Strategies: 


SPO#: 
C.5.06 


Develop  an  automated  scoring  process  for  scenario-based  testing  in  the  Basic  Course 
using  the  TMAS  system. 


Status  on: 

2/09/09 


In  progress.  Staff  is  looking  at  alternative  software  companies  to  provide  this  service. 


Bureau(s)  Assigned: 
S&E 


Staff  Assigned: 

Krusger 


Completion  Anticipated: 

Jan-10 


Notes 


..  I  Several  new  software  development  vendors  have  emerged  since  the  Commission  approved  this 

Strategies:   :  objective  in  2006. 


SPO#: 
C.6.06 

Develop  means  to  heighten  public  awareness  about  successes  in   professionalizing 
California  law  enforcement. 

Status  on: 

2/09/09 

In  progress.  With  the  combination  of  video  training,  the  major  overhaul  of  the  POST  website,  and 
the  integration  of  leadership,  ethics,  and  community  policing  instruction  into  all  levels  of  training 
and  coursework,  POST  has  developed  a  number  of  resources  available  for  use  by  agencies 
toward  improving  the  image  of  law  enforcement  and  heightening  awareness  of  dedication  to 
professionalism.  The  next  step  is  to  develop  a  template  to  assist  agencies  in  identifying 
opportunities  for  where/when/how  image  enhancement  can  occur. 

Bureau(s)  Assigned:                                      Staff  Assigned:                                              Completion  Anticipated: 
TPS                                                           Crume                                                       Jul-09 

Notes 

and/or 

Strategies: 

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SPOfc 
C.7.08 


Enhance  communications  with  stakeholders  about  POST'S  service  and  programs. 


Status  on: 

2/09/09 


Not  addressed  -  new  objective. 


Bureau(s)  Assigned: 
TDC/ISB 


Staff  Assigned: 


Completion  Anticipated: 


Notes 

and/or 

Strategies: 


SPO#: 
C.8.08 


Streamline  the  payment  of  POST  Training  Reimbursement  Requests  (TRRs). 


Status  on: 

2/09/09 


Not  addressed  -  new  objective. 


Bureau(s)  Assigned: 

ASB/CSB/ISB 


Staff  Assigned: 

Barry 


Completion  Anticipated: 


Notes 


.,  .  ;  Waiting  for  EDI  Course  Roster  project  to  finish  (Fall  2008),  then  priorities  will  be  evaluated  along 

Strategies-   l  with  a  re<3ues<  to  automate  POST  certificate  applications. 


SPO#: 
C.9.08 

Study  the  feasibility  of  creating  an  FTO/PTO-type  program  and  workbook  for  new  first-line 
supervisors. 

Status  on: 

2/09/09 

Assigned;  however,  Objective  C.10.08  needs  to  be  completed  prior  to  a  program  or  workbook 
being  developed. 

Bureau(s)  Assigned:                                       Staff  Assigned:                                              Completion  Anticipated: 

CLD                                                           Davies                                                       Nov-09 

Notes 

and/or 

Strategies: 

Voluntary  program. 

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Commission  on  Peace  Officer  Standards  and  Training  -  Strategic  Plan  -  2008 


Goal  C  -  Enhance  POST'S  Services 


SPO#: 
C.10.08 


Conduct  a^pm^rehertsiye  rev 


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e  Supervisory  Course  and  curriculum. 


Status  on: 

2/09/09 


In  progress.  The  review  is  underway.  Several  meetings  have  been  held  and  sub-committees 
have  been  established  with  the  Supervisory  Course  facilitators. 


Bureau(s)  Assigned: 
CLD 


Staff  Assigned: 

Davies 


Completion  Anticipated: 

Nov-09 


Notes 

and/or 

Strategies: 


Review  balance  between  practical  skills  and  leadership  enhancement. 


SPO#: 
C.11.08 


Continue  to  expand  thefdevelopment  and  use  of  technology  in  selection  and  training. 


Status  on: 

2/09/09 


In  progress.  A  multi-bureau  internal  working  committee  has  been  formed  to  address  this  issue.  A 
report  to  the  Commission  will  be  made  in  July  2009. 


Bureau(s)  Assigned: 

S&E/TPS/BTB/CSB 


Staff  Assigned: 

Chan 


Completion  Anticipated: 


Notes 

and/or 

Strategies: 


This  objective  is  likely  to  be  ongoing  as  other  selection  and  training  areas  are  identified  and 
prioritized  for  the  application  of  technology. 


SPO#: 
C.12.08 


Status  on: 

2/09/09 


Not  addressed  -  new  objective. 


Bureau(s)  Assigned: 

S&E/BTB 


Staff  Assigned: 


Completion  Anticipated: 


Notes 
and/or 
Strategies: 


Project  is  on-hold  pending  filling  a  vacancy. 


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Goal  C  -  Enhance  POST'S  Services 


SPO#: 
C. 13.08 


Study  the  feasibility  of  revising  course  certification  requirements  and  training 
reimbursement  plans  and  rates. 


Status  on: 

2/09/09 


In  progress.  A  two  day  meeting  in  February  involving  representatives  of  each  bureau  was 
conducted.  POST  regulations  were  reviewed  and  recommendations  for  changes  were  made  to 
revise  course  certification  requirements. 


Bureau(s)  Assigned: 

TDB 


Staff  Assigned: 

All  Regional  Consultants 


Completion  Anticipated: 

Jul-10 


Notes 

and/or 

Strategies: 


Staff  proposes  revising  the  language  of  the  objective  to  remove  the  reference  to  "rates"  of  training 
reimbursement  since  this  matter  is  reviewed  and  approved  by  the  Finance  Committee  and  the 
Commission  when  changes  are  recommended. 


Goal  D  -  Enhance  the  POST  Organization  and  Staff 


SPO#: 
D.1.06 


Study  the  feasibility  of  establishing  a  mentoring  program  for  POST  employees. 


Status  on: 

2/09/09 


Not  addressed/assigned. 


Bureau(s)  Assigned: 

ASB/Leadership  Team 


Staff  Assigned: 


Completion  Anticipated: 


Notes 

and/or 

Strategies: 


SPO#: 
D.2.08 

Establish  a  futures  planning  capability  within  POST. 

Status  on: 

2/09^09 

In  progress.  Leadership  staff  meetings  have  been  held  to  discuss  the  scope  of  the  project.  Eleven 
defined  sub-topics  for  review  have  been  identified. 

Bureau(s)  Assigned:                                       Staff  Assigned:                                              Completion  Anticipated: 

CLD/Leadership  Team                                                                                            Sept-09 

Notes 

and/or 

Strategies: 

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Go>u  D  -  Enhance  the  POST  Organization  and  Staff 


SPO#: 
D.3.08 


Enhance  the  use  of  digital  media. 


Status  on: 

2/09/09 


Not  addressed  -  on  hold  due  to  other  higher  funding  priorities. 


Bureau(s)  Assigned: 

CSB/TPS 


Staff  Assigned: 


Completion  Anticipated: 

Jan-10 


Notes 
and/or 
Strategies: 


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PRE  ACADEMY  REPORT  WRITING  TOOLS  AND  RESOURCES 

Because  report  writing  is  often  cited  as  one  of  the  top  reasons  for  academy  and  field 
training  failures,  many  law  enforcement  agencies  are  seeking  ways  to  assess  and 
remediate  report  writing  skills  prior  to  academy  admission.  This  document  provides  a 
brief  overview  of  some  of  the  pre-academy  report  writing  strategies  that  are  successfully 
preparing  individuals  for  a  career  in  law  enforcement.  Academies  that  have  used  these 
strategies  report  reductions  in  report-writing-related  failures.  They  also  report  substantial 
improvements  in  the  quality  of  reports  produced  during  the  academy  and  beyond. 

High  School  Explorer  Programs 

Several  law  enforcement  agencies  in  the  state  (e.g.,  Elk  Grove  Sheriff,  South  Lake  Tahoe 
P.D.)  have  partnered  with  local  high  schools  to  create  technical  training  programs  for 
high  school  students  who  express  an  interest  in  law  enforcement.  Through  the  program, 
students  are  provided  with  a  developmental  iy  appropriate  but  realistic  view  of  a  career  in 
law  enforcement.  Students  are  often  paired  with  officers  who  mentor  them  and  involve 
them  in  various  aspects  of  the  law  enforcement  culture.  Students  participate  in 
community  outreach  and  represent  the  law  enforcement  agency  at  charitable  and 
community  events.  Opportunities  for  honing  law-enforcement-relevant  skills  (e.g.,  report 
writing,  leadership,  conflict  resolution,  and  physical  fitness)  are  provided.  By  gaining 
early  exposure  to  the  daily  life  of  a  law  enforcement  officer,  students  can  realistically 
assess  their  interest  in  law  enforcement  and  improve  the  skills  they  will  need  to  seriously 
pursue  a  career  in  law  enforcement. 

Community  College  Partnerships 

Some  academies  partner  with  their  local  community  college  to  provide  pre-academy 
assessments  and  remedial  resources  for  cadets  who  are  preparing  to  enter  the  academy. 
For  example,  the  Administration  of  Justice  (AJ)  Department  at  Las  Pocitas  College  has 
partnered  with  the  English  Department  to  make  it  possible  for  the  writing  skills  of  all  AJ 
students  to  be  assessed  and  tracked  over  time.  This  makes  it  possible  to  not  only  identify 
specific  weaknesses  but  to  monitor  progress  as  students  participate  in  activities  that 
improve  their  writing  "skills.  Some  academies  require  students  with  low  English 
assessment  scores  to  successfully  complete  a  remedial  English  course  prior  to  academy 
admission. 

Pre- Academy  Writing  Exercises 

Some  academies  administer  a  writing  assessment  either  just  prior  to  or  at  the  beginning  of 
the  academy.  The  results  of  this  assessment  are  used  to  identify  each  cadet's  specific 
weaknesses  so  that  appropriate  counseling  and  interventions  can  be  implemented.  The 
information  from  the  assessment  benefits  both  the  cadet  and  the  instructor.  Cadets  are 
able  to  gain  specific  advice  on  which  areas  need  improvement  and  instructors  are  able  to 
tailor  assistance  to  maximize  the  benefits  of  their  instruction.  There  are  a  variety  of  basic 
assessment  tools  available  both  online  and  through  assessment  vendors.  Riverside  County 


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Sheriffs  Department  is  one  academy  that  is  using  this  particular  intervention  with  some 
success. 

Use  of  Online  Writing  Labs  fOWLsl 

The  internet  provides  many  valuable  tools  that  can  be  used  to  improve  written  skills. 
Many  universities  and  other  learning  institutions  have  developed  online  writing  labs  that 
are  intended  to  assist  students  in  improving  their  written  skills.  Some  OWLs  provide 
opportunities  to  submit  writing  samples  for  evaluation  by  English  professors  while  others 
provide  games  and  activities  that  improve  written  skills.  Especially  for  students  who  are 
struggling  with  English  as  a  second  language — OWLs  can  provide  a  safe,  fun,  and 
supportive  learning  environment  where  students  can  identify  their  deficiencies  and 
participate  in  activities  that  will  help  them  improve.  A  simple  internet  search  will  produce 
links  to  the  many  OWLs  that  are  currently  available  for  free  online.  Some  of  the  more 
popular  sites  are  listed  below. 


URL 


Institution/Agency 


http://vyww.american.edu/cas/lit/vvritingcenter.cfm 


American  University 


http://owl.enelish.i3urdue.edu/ 


Purdue  University 


http://web.cwoc.ufl.edu/owl/ 


University  of  Florida 


http:/Avww.lvnchburg.edu/ 


Lynchburg  College 


http://leo.stcloudstate.edu/index.html 


St.  Cloud  State  University 


http://www.hamiltcn.edu/writing/index.html 


Hamilton  College 


http://www.titoledo.edu/oente  rs/writingcenter/ 


University  of  Toledo 


http:/Avrif.ing.  oolostate.edu/ 


Colorado  State  Uniyersity 


http://uwf.edu/writelab/ 


University  of  West  Florida 


http.7Avww.gmu.edu/departments/writinBcenter/owl.htnil  ',  George  Mason  University 


Increasing  the  POST  T  Score  Used  to  Select  Affiliated  Students 

Research  indicates  that  for  agencies  using  the  POST  Entry-Level  Test  Battery  to  select 
candidates,  increasing  the  T  score  cutoff  can  result  in  significant  gains.  Higher  T  score 
values  are  associated  with  increased  likelihood  of  success  in  the  academy.  Many  agencies 
have  found  that  by  increasing  their  required  T  score  they  have  been  able  to  retain  more 
recruits.  Further,  academy  instructors  report  that  higher  T  score  requirements  have 
minimized  the  need  for  remediation  substantially.  For  example,  instructors  at  Alameda 
County  Sheriffs  Office  Academy  Regional  Training  Center  report  that  by  increasing 
their  T  score  requirement  from  45  to  48,  they  have  substantially  reduced  the  number  of 
recruits  who  fail  as  a  result  of  writing  deficiencies.  Instructors  have  also  reported  (and 
POST  research  supports)  that  cadets  with  higher  T  scores  perform  better  in  all  academy 
areas,  not  just  report  writing. 

Sample  Assessments  and  Other  Resources 

Samples  assessments  and  other  report  writing  resources  (including  suggestions  and 
resources  for  cadets  already  enrolled  in  the  academy)  are  available  via  POST'S  Basic 
Course  Informational  website  or  by  contacting  Personnel  Selection  Consultant,  Elizabeth 


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COMMISSIONER  BONNIE  M.  DUMANIS 

DISTRICT  ATTORNEY  OF  SAN  DIEGO  COUNTY 


GOALS 

In  2007  you  said  you  would  advance  POST'S  goals  by  setting  minimum  selection  and 
training  standards  and  addressing  the  problem  of  recruitment  and  retention  of  peace 
officers,  including  outreach  to  often  under-represented  populations. 

1.    Are  you  satisfied  with  your  progress  toward  meeting  your  goals  ?  How  do  you 
measure  progress?  How  have  your  goals  changed  since  you  were  first 
appointed? 

I  am  satisfied  with  the  progress  that  has  been  made  in  setting  minimum  selection 
and  training  standards.  POST  has  conducted  a  significant  amount  of  research  in 
order  to  determine  the  potential  impact  of  raising  the  entry  level  selection 
standards,  i.e.  "raising  the  entry-level  education  requirement  above  high  school 
or  GED  (taking  into  consideration  law  enforcement  recruitment  issues)"  and 
"raising  the  entry-level  reading  and  writing  requirements  (taking  into 
consideration  law  enforcement  recruitment  issues)." 

Law  enforcement  executives  from  a  number  of  agencies  throughout  the  state 
have  concluded  that  raising  the  standards  would  be  detrimental  to  the 
recruitment  levels  therefore  this  goal  was  deleted  from  the  strategic  plans  for 
POST. 

Based  on  this  conclusion,  POST  initiated  alternative  methods/resources  to  assist 
students  in  improving  reading  and  writing  skills.  POST  is  also  developing 
documents  and  manuals  that  will  assist  agencies  in  the  selection  process. 

Regarding  "outreach  to  often  under-represented  populations"  as  I  mentioned  in 
2007: 1  believe  that  outreach  helps  reduce  crime  and  it  is  also  a  great  recruiting 
tool.  Therefore,  outreach  is  a  high  priority  for  the  DA's  office.  A  couple  of 
programs  that  our  office  is  involved  in  include: 

The  DA's  office  is  involved  in  project  LEAD  (Legal  Enrichment  and  Decision  - 
Making).  This  is  a  10  week  law  related  program  targeting  fifth-grade  students 
located  in  lower  middle  class  and  lower  income  areas.  Deputy  DAs  and  DA 
Investigators  go  to  selected  schools  as  a  team  and  teach  the  students  about  the 
law  and  help  them  recognize  the  social  and  legal  consequences  of  criminal 
behavior.  They  discuss  topics  such  as  bullying,  shoplifting,  gang  involvement, 
truancy,  drug  use,  and  other  issues  with  the  students.  This  program  is  designed 
to  make  the  students  aware  of  the  criminal  justice  system  and  to  steer  them  away 
from  gangs  and  criminal  activity.  By  presenting  positive  role  models  in  law 
enforcement  we  encourage  them  to  choose  it  for  a  career. 


Senate  Essies  Committee 

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The  DA's  office  has  three  Outreach  Specialists  who  are  tasked  with  a  number  of 
duties  including  outreach  to  students.  One  of  their  goals  is  to  reduce  gang  related 
violent  crimes.  They  meet  with  students  at  schools  at  all  levels  and  discuss  with 
them  the  negative  aspects  of  gang  memberships  and  involvement  in  criminal 
activity.  They  are  also  involved  in  faith  based  organizations  and  work  with 
members  of  these  groups  to  reduce  gang  violence.  We  also  have  a  youth  advisory 
committee  to  engage  a  diverse  group  of  9th  thru  12th  graders  in  how  to  reach  out 
to  them  on  important  issues. 

The  DA's  office  partners  with  the  San  Diego  Chargers  in  Community  outreach. 
The  Chargers  send  players,  coaches  and  administrative  staff  to  Boys  and  Girls 
clubs,  Middle  and  High  Schools,  Homeless  centers  and  venues.  DA  Investigators 
accompany  and  participate  with  the  Chargers. 

The  DA's  office  encourages  DDAs,  DAIs  and  support  staff  to  participate  in 
outreach  programs  throughout  the  County.  Participation  in  these  programs  is  a 
plus  for  consideration  in  the  promotion  process  for  employees. 

I  measure  progress  by  comparing  plans  that  have  been  developed  with  the 
number  of  plans  that  have  been  implemented. 

My  goals  have  not  changed. 

BACKGROUND 

You  have  served  since  2003  as  the  San  Diego  district  attorney. 

2.    What  lessons  from  your  own  experience  in  law  enforcement  are  useful  as  you  help 
shape  statewide  law  enforcement  standards? 

I  have  served  as  a  prosecutor  with  the  DA's  office,  as  a  Judge  and  as  the  District 
Attorney.  My  experience  has  provided  me  with  the  unique  opportunity  to  observe 
the  justice  system  from  different  perspectives.  I  have  seen  the  results  of  excellent 
police  work  and  how  that  plays  such  a  pivotal  role  in  the  system.  Unfortunately,  I 
have  also  seen  the  opposite  and  understand  the  consequences  of  less  than  stellar 
police  work  and  the  effects  that  this  has  on  victims  and  society.  Therefore,  I  am 
committed  to  the  goal  of  ensuring  that  California  police  officers  receive  the  best 
training  possible. 

I  have  also  learned  that  by  collaboration,  coordination  and  cooperation  more  can  be 
accomplished.  The  goal  of  reducing  recidivism  and  protecting  the  public  also 
includes  doing  our  best  to  make  sure  those  who  commit  crimes  become  clean,  sober 
and  productive  members  of  society. 

SB  618 

In  a  pilot  program  created  by  SB  618  (Speier),  Chapter  603,  Statutes  of  2005,  San  Diego 
County  is  preparing  nonviolent  felons  to  be  better  positioned  for  a  successful  transition 
back  into  the  community.  The  goal  is  to  create  a  plan  for  an  inmate,  while  he  or  she  is  in 


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the  county  jail,  so  the  inmate  can  immediately  start  with  education  or  vocational 
programs  or  life  skills  classes  as  soon  as  they  enter  prison.  You  previously  said  that  this 
program  "is  a  good  example  of  how  recidivism  is  being  addressed  inside  the  prisons  and 
at  the  time  of  reentry.  Law  enforcement  officers  need  to  be  familiar  with,  and  included 
in,  the  development  of  SB  618  programs  in  their  jurisdiction  and  how  it  may  affect  their 
contact  with  parolees  at  reentry  facilities." 

3.  Please  describe  how  you  monitor  this  program  and  if  it  is  operating  as  expected. 
Is  it  a  program  that  can  be  duplicated  in  other  counties?  If  so,  what  are  the 
barriers  to  that  happening? 

a.  We  monitor  this  program  through  weekly  Operational  Procedures 
meetings  where  representatives  from  all  involved  agencies  discuss  any 
issues  that  come  up  as  the  program  moves  forward.  Probation 
distributes  a  weekly  statistics  report  of  the  SB  618  participants. 
SANDAG  evaluates  the  program  through  surveys  (with  line  staff, 
program  designers  and  the  participants)  and  comparing  assessments. 
Furthermore,  members  of  the  Operational  Procedures  Committee 
conduct  site  visits  and  observe  various  steps  in  the  process  to  ensure 
the  quality  of  the  program. 

b.  A  Deputy  District  Attorney  oversees  the  court  process  and  ensuring 
that  all  eligible  participants  are  screened  for  the  program. 

c.  The  program  is  operating  as  expected,  but  we  are  constantly  fine- 
tuning  and  improving  processes.  This  is  a  program  that  can  be 
duplicated  in  other  counties.  A  possible  barrier  is  getting  CDCR  to 
financially  support  the  program. 

4.  Are  there  lessons  from  the  SB  618  program  that  would  be  useful  to  share  with 
other  counties,  possibly  through  POST  training? 

a.  Absolutely.  It  is  essential  to  first  develop  collaborative  relationships 
between  the  District  Attorney's  Office,  Public  Defender's  Office,  the 
Courts,  Probation  and  the  Sheriffs  Department.  We  also  found  it  was 
very  important  to  connect  Parole  with  our  local  law  enforcement 
agencies  in  order  to  better  monitor  participants  and  address  their 
needs  in  an  appropriate  manner. 

b.  Everyone  must  be  in  agreement  to  move  forward.  Bringing  in 
community-based  and  faith-based  organizations  to  develop  a  plan 
together  so  everyone  is  in  agreement  is  integral  for  the  program's 
success.  The  sooner  everyone  gets  involved  and  has  buy-in,  the  better 
the  program  will  work. 

c    County  processes  are  simpler  than  State  bureaucracies,  which  allowed 
us  to  develop  and  implement  this  comprehensive  program  much 
faster  and  in  a  way  that  fits  our  County. 


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RECRUITMENT 

One  major  issue  has  been  recruitment  of  new  officers.  In  2007  the  Contra  Costa  Times 
reported  that  there  were  15,000  vacancies  among  the  95,000  budgeted  peace  officer  jobs 
in  California.  At  the  same  time,  the  commission's  strategic  goals  state,  "The  costs 
associated  with  subpar  employee  productivity,  turnover,  and  counter-productive  behavior 
are  substantial,  both  from  a  monetary  and  public  safety  standpoint." 

5.  What  is  the  status  of  any  initiatives  the  commission  has  taken  to  steer  youth 
toward  careers  in  law  enforcement?  What  outcomes,  if  any,  have  you 
experienced  so  far? 

POST  has  developed  a  number  of  publications  that  have  dealt  with  recruitment 
issues  over  the  past  few  years  and  is  in  the  final  stages  of  producing  a  "Recruitment 
Strategic  Planning  Guide."  This  publication  will  assist  law  enforcement  agencies  in 
developing  recruitment  strategic  plans  for  police  officers  and  dispatchers. 

The  DA's  office  does  not  hire  entry  level  police  officers;  therefore  we  are  not 
directly  impacted  by  the  fact  that  youths  are  not  being  steered  toward  law 
enforcement  careers,  but  as  mentioned  in  question  one's  answer  we  do  our  best  to 
reach  out  to  our  youth  to  engage  them  to  become  involved  in  law  enforcement 

6.  You  previously  said  POST  must  be  cautious  about  raising  entry-level 
qualifications  for  peace  officers.   What  have  you  done  to  help  departments  recruit 
qualified  candidates?  What  steps  have  you  taken  to  help  departments  weed  out 
potentially  subpar  employees  before  they  are  hired? 

As  mentioned,  the  DA's  office,  as  well  as  most  law  enforcement  agencies,  participate 
in  law  enforcement  recruiting  days  at  schools  and  other  venues.  We,  however,  do 
not  hire  entry  level  police  officers. 

The  DA's  office  along  with  Sheriffs  office  has  held  several  "Citizen  Academies" 
over  the  past  few  years.  This  is  a  twelve  (12)  week  program  (one  night  per  week) 
hosted  by  the  DA's  office.  This  program  was  advertised  through  the  media  and 
encouraged  any  and  all  citizens  to  attend.  The  presenters  were  Deputy  DAs,  DA 
Investigators  and  Sheriffs  deputies.  They  provided  the  attendees  with  "an  inside 
look"  at  the  criminal  justice  system  and  how  all  the  various  law  enforcement 
agencies  work  together  to  ensure  that  the  citizens  of  the  County  live  in  a  secure  safe 
environment  I  am  of  the  opinion  that  these  presentations  were  definitely  a 
recruiting  tool  as  well  as  an  educational  tool. 

I  have  also  participated  in  Women  in  Law  Enforcement  career  day  and  recruitment 
efforts. 

During  the  past  year,  the  DA's  office  had  vacancies  for  peace  officers  that  had  the 
desire  and  the  experience  to  work  fraud  cases.  With  this  in  mind,  the  County  and 
the  DA's  web  sites  were  used  to  advertise  the  need  for  potential  applicants  that  had 
fraud  experience.  Additionally,  we  incorporated  questions  relating  to  fraud 
investigations  into  our  applicants'  interview  process. 


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In  order  to  weed  out  potentially  sub  par  employees,  we  conduct  an  in  depth 
background  investigation. 

Regarding  peace  officer  vacancies  and  recruitment  of  qualified  candidates: 

As  a  result  of  an  early  mandatory  retirement  age,  there  are  a  number  of  retired 
federal  agents/officers  in  California  that  are  interested  in  second  careers  with  local 
law  enforcement  agencies.  These  officers  have  a  great  deal  of  experience  and  could 
be  a  "pool"  of  qualified  candidates  for  detective  and  management  positions.  Current 
POST  policies  prevent  these  federal  officers  from  applying  for  positions  unless  they 
attend  a  26  week  police  academy  (POST  does  not  recognize  federal  law  enforcement 
academies  as  "police  academies"  and  does  not  recognize  any  federal  training  as 
being  sufficient  to  meet  POST  standards). 

POST  currently  requires  that  police  officers  from  other  states  applying  for  positions 
with  agencies  in  California  attend  a  3  week  course  in  order  to  obtain  a  basic  POST 
certificate  which  makes  them  eligible  for  police  officer  positions.  I  would 
recommend  that  POST  develop  a  similar  plan  for  retired  federal  officers. 

7.  What  impact  has  the  nation 's  slowing  economy  had  on  recruitment  of  officers? 
Do  you  see  a  wider  role  for  the  commission  in  publicizing  the  need  for  qualified 
police  personnel? 

A  number  of  law  enforcement  agencies  throughout  California  are  not  hiring  police 
officers  as  a  result  of  the  slowing  economy. 

POST  may  play  a  larger  role  in  the  future  in  publicizing  the  need  for  qualified 
police  personnel  in  the  future.  POST  has  the  ability  to  reach  a  larger  number  of 
potential  candidates  through  the  use  of  the  media  and  its  website. 

8.  What  role  should  the  commission  play,  if  any,  in  working  with  high  schools 
middle  schools  to  address  California 's  high  dropout  rate? 

I  think  that  this  should  be  addressed  by  law  enforcement  agencies.  Law  enforcement 
involvement  would  also  provide  the  opportunity  to  recruit  potential  candidates  for 
law  enforcement  positions.  Many  of  us  participate  in  Fight  Crime:  Invest  in  Kids  that 
seeks  funding  for  schools,  programs  for  kids  and  research  to  help  address  crime 
prevention  and  drop  out  rates. 

TRAINING 

In  a  July  18,  2008,  memorandum,  POST  executive  director  Paul  Cappitelli  said  that, 
while  POST'S  budget  has  remained  relatively  flat,  the  number  of  trainees  for  whom 
agencies  could  seek  reimbursement  climbed  from  54,000  in  2003  to  more  than  68,000  in 
2007,  a  25.9  percent  jump.  "With  no  commensurate  increase  in  revenues,  this  trend 
cannot  be  sustained,"  Cappitelli  said. 


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9.  How  have  recent  budget  cuts  impacted your  training  programs?  Are  you 
encouraging  agencies  to  utilize  more  online  courses? 

Recent  budget  cuts  have  definitely  impacted  training  programs  for  all  law 
enforcement,  including  the  DA's  office.  To  address  this,  the  DA's  office  Bureau  of 
Investigations  (law  enforcement  component  of  the  DA's  office)  provides  in-house 
skills  training  to  all  of  our  investigators.  This  training  meets  or  exceeds  POST 
standards.  DA  Investigators  are  the  instructors  for  these  courses. 

With  few  exceptions,  the  only  other  training  that  is  approved  for  investigators  are 
those  courses  certified  by  POST  that  are  eligible  for  cost  reimbursement 

We  provide  online  training  courses  for  DA  employees  as  does  the  County  of  San 
Diego. 

WEBSITE 

Some  information  on  the  POST  web  site  appears  to  have  been  last  updated  in  2007. 

10.  What  plans  do  you  have  to  regularly  update  your  web  site?  What  do  you  believe 
is  POST'S  responsibility  to  communicate  with  the  public  through  its  web  site? 

The  DA's  office  has  a  DAnet  committee  that  ensures  that  the  DA  website  is  current 
Deputy  DAs,  investigators  and  support  staff  are  members  of  this  committee.  They 
meet  on  a  regular  basis  and  exchange  ideas  and  make  recommendations  regarding 
the  website. 

POST  must  communicate  with  the  public  through  its  website.  With  technology  that 
is  available  today,  people  obtain  a  great  deal  of  information  and  knowledge  by 
visiting  websites  thus  making  it  critical  that  the  webpage  is  current 


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RESPONSE  TO  CONFIRMATION  QUESTIONS 

COMMISSIONER  BONNIE  M.  DUMANIS 

DISTRICT  ATTORNEY  OF  SAN  DIEGO  COUNTY 


GOALS 

In  2007  you  said  you  would  advance  POST'S  goals  by  setting  minimum  selection  and 
training  standards  and  addressing  the  problem  of  recruitment  and  retention  of  peace 
officers,  including  outreach  to  often  under-represented  populations. 

1 .    Are  you  satisfied  with  your  progress  toward  meeting  your  goals  ?  How  do  you 
measure  progress?  How  have  your  goals  changed  since  you  were  first 
appointed? 

I  am  satisfied  with  the  progress  that  has  been  made  in  setting  minimum  selection 
and  training  standards.  POST  has  conducted  a  significant  amount  of  research  in 
order  to  determine  the  potential  impact  of  raising  the  entry  level  selection 
standards,  i.e.  "raising  the  entry-level  education  requirement  above  high  school 
or  GED  (taking  into  consideration  law  enforcement  recruitment  issues)"  and 
"raising  the  entry-level  reading  and  writing  requirements  (taking  into 
consideration  law  enforcement  recruitment  issues)." 

Law  enforcement  executives  from  a  number  of  agencies  throughout  the  state 
have  concluded  that  raising  the  standards  would  be  detrimental  to  the 
recruitment  levels  therefore  this  goal  was  deleted  from  the  strategic  plans  for 
POST. 

Based  on  this  conclusion,  POST  initiated  alternative  methods/resources  to  assist 
students  in  improving  reading  and  writing  skills.  POST  is  also  developing 
documents  and  manuals  that  will  assist  agencies  in  the  selection  process. 

Regarding  "outreach  to  often  under-represented  populations"  as  I  mentioned  in 
2007: 1  believe  that  outreach  helps  reduce  crime  and  it  is  also  a  great  recruiting 
tool.  Therefore,  outreach  is  a  high  priority  for  the  DA's  office.  A  couple  of 
programs  that  our  office  is  involved  in  include: 

The  DA's  office  is  involved  in  project  LEAD  (Legal  Enrichment  and  Decision  - 
Making).  This  is  a  10  week  law  related  program  targeting  fifth-grade  students 
located  in  lower  middle  class  and  lower  income  areas.  Deputy  DAs  and  DA 
Investigators  go  to  selected  schools  as  a  team  and  teach  the  students  about  the 
law  and  help  them  recognize  the  social  and  legal  consequences  of  criminal 
behavior.  They  discuss  topics  such  as  bullying,  shoplifting,  gang  involvement, 
truancy,  drug  use,  and  other  issues  with  the  students.  This  program  is  designed 
to  make  the  students  aware  of  the  criminal  justice  system  and  to  steer  them  away 
from  gangs  and  criminal  activity.  By  presenting  positive  role  models  in  law 
enforcement  we  encourage  them  to  choose  it  for  a  career. 


Sfcoies  Cuie,: 


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Appointment* 


The  DA's  office  has  three  Outreach  Specialists  who  are  tasked  with  a  number  of 
duties  including  outreach  to  students.  One  of  their  goals  is  to  reduce  gang  related 
violent  crimes.  They  meet  with  students  at  schools  at  all  levels  and  discuss  with 
them  the  negative  aspects  of  gang  memberships  and  involvement  in  criminal 
activity.  They  are  also  involved  in  faith  based  organizations  and  work  with 
members  of  these  groups  to  reduce  gang  violence.  We  also  have  a  youth  advisory 
committee  to  engage  a  diverse  group  of  9th  thru  12th  graders  in  how  to  reach  out 
to  them  on  important  issues. 

The  DA's  office  partners  with  the  San  Diego  Chargers  in  Community  outreach. 
The  Chargers  send  players,  coaches  and  administrative  staff  to  Boys  and  Girls 
clubs,  Middle  and  High  Schools,  Homeless  centers  and  venues.  DA  Investigators 
accompany  and  participate  with  the  Chargers. 

The  DA's  office  encourages  DDAs,  DAIs  and  support  staff  to  participate  in 
outreach  programs  throughout  the  County.  Participation  in  these  programs  is  a 
plus  for  consideration  in  the  promotion  process  for  employees. 

I  measure  progress  by  comparing  plans  that  have  been  developed  with  the 
number  of  plans  that  have  been  implemented. 

My  goals  have  not  changed. 

BACKGROUND 

You  have  served  since  2003  as  the  San  Diego  district  attorney. 

2.    What  lessons  from  your  own  experience  in  law  enforcement  are  useful  as  you  help 
shape  statewide  law  enforcement  standards? 

I  have  served  as  a  prosecutor  with  the  DA's  office,  as  a  Judge  and  as  the  District 
Attorney.  My  experience  has  provided  me  with  the  unique  opportunity  to  observe 
the  justice  system  from  different  perspectives.  I  have  seen  the  results  of  excellent 
police  work  and  how  that  plays  such  a  pivotal  role  in  the  system.  Unfortunately,  I 
have  also  seen  the  opposite  and  understand  the  consequences  of  less  than  stellar 
police  work  and  the  effects  that  this  has  on  victims  and  society.  Therefore,  I  am 
committed  to  the  goal  of  ensuring  that  California  police  officers  receive  the  best 
training  possible. 

I  have  also  learned  that  by  collaboration,  coordination  and  cooperation  more  can  be 
accomplished.  The  goal  of  reducing  recidivism  and  protecting  the  public  also 
includes  doing  our  best  to  make  sure  those  who  commit  crimes  become  clean,  sober 
and  productive  members  of  society. 

SB  618 

In  a  pilot  program  created  by  SB  618  (Speier),  Chapter  603,  Statutes  of  2005,  San  Diego 
County  is  preparing  nonviolent  felons  to  be  better  positioned  for  a  successful  transition 
back  into  the  community.  The  goal  is  to  create  a  plan  for  an  inmate,  while  he  or  she  is  in 


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the  county  jail,  so  the  inmate  can  immediately  start  with  education  or  vocational 
programs  or  life  skills  classes  as  soon  as  they  enter  prison.  You  previously  said  that  this 
program  "is  a  good  example  of  how  recidivism  is  being  addressed  inside  the  prisons  and 
at  the  time  of  reentry.  Law  enforcement  officers  need  to  be  familiar  with,  and  included 
in,  the  development  of  SB  618  programs  in  their  jurisdiction  and  how  it  may  affect  their 
contact  with  parolees  at  reentry  facilities." 

3.  Please  describe  how  you  monitor  this  program  and  if  it  is  operating  as  expected. 
Is  it  a  program  that  can  be  duplicated  in  other  counties?  If  so,  what  are  the 
barriers  to  that  happening? 

a.  We  monitor  this  program  through  weekly  Operational  Procedures 
meetings  where  representatives  from  all  involved  agencies  discuss  any 
issues  that  come  up  as  the  program  moves  forward.  Probation 
distributes  a  weekly  statistics  report  of  the  SB  618  participants. 
SAND  AG  evaluates  the  program  through  surveys  (with  line  staff, 
program  designers  and  the  participants)  and  comparing  assessments. 
Furthermore,  members  of  the  Operational  Procedures  Committee 
conduct  site  visits  and  observe  various  steps  in  the  process  to  ensure 
the  quality  of  the  program. 

b.  A  Deputy  District  Attorney  oversees  the  court  process  and  ensuring 
that  all  eligible  participants  are  screened  for  the  program. 

c.  The  program  is  operating  as  expected,  but  we  are  constantly  fine- 
tuning  and  improving  processes.  This  is  a  program  that  can  be 
duplicated  in  other  counties.  A  possible  barrier  is  getting  CDCR  to 
financially  support  the  program. 

4.  Are  there  lessons  from  the  SB  618  program  that  would  be  useful  to  share  with 
other  counties,  possibly  through  POST  training? 

a.  Absolutely.  It  is  essential  to  first  develop  collaborative  relationships 
between  the  District  Attorney's  Office,  Public  Defender's  Office,  the 
Courts,  Probation  and  the  Sheriffs  Department  We  also  found  it  was 
very  important  to  connect  Parole  with  our  local  law  enforcement 
agencies  in  order  to  better  monitor  participants  and  address  their 
needs  in  an  appropriate  manner. 

b.  Everyone  must  be  in  agreement  to  move  forward.  Bringing  in 
community-based  and  faith-based  organizations  to  develop  a  plan 
together  so  everyone  is  in  agreement  is  integral  for  the  program's 
success.  The  sooner  everyone  gets  involved  and  has  buy-in,  the  better 
the  program  will  work. 

c    County  processes  are  simpler  than  State  bureaucracies,  which  allowed 
us  to  develop  and  implement  this  comprehensive  program  much 
faster  and  in  a  way  that  fits  our  County. 


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RECRUITMENT 

One  major  issue  has  been  recruitment  of  new  officers.  In  2007  the  Contra  Costa  Times 
reported  that  there  were  15,000  vacancies  among  the  95,000  budgeted  peace  officer  jobs 
in  California,  At  the  same  time,  the  commission's  strategic  goals  state,  "The  costs 
associated  with  subpar  employee  productivity,  turnover,  and  counter-productive  behavior 
are  substantial,  both  from  a  monetary  and  public  safety  standpoint." 

5.  What  is  the  status  of  any  initiatives  the  commission  has  taken  to  steer  youth 
toward  careers  in  law  enforcement?  What  outcomes,  if  any,  have  you 
experienced  so  far? 

POST  has  developed  a  number  of  publications  that  have  dealt  with  recruitment 
issues  over  the  past  few  years  and  is  in  the  final  stages  of  producing  a  "Recruitment 
Strategic  Planning  Guide."  This  publication  will  assist  law  enforcement  agencies  in 
developing  recruitment  strategic  plans  for  police  officers  and  dispatchers. 

The  DA's  office  does  not  hire  entry  level  police  officers;  therefore  we  are  not 
directly  impacted  by  the  fact  that  youths  are  not  being  steered  toward  law 
enforcement  careers,  but  as  mentioned  in  question  one's  answer  we  do  our  best  to 
reach  out  to  our  youth  to  engage  them  to  become  involved  in  law  enforcement 

6.  You  previously  said  POST  must  be  cautious  about  raising  entry-level 
qualifications  for  peace  officers.   What  have  you  done  to  help  departments  recruit 
qualified  candidates?  What  steps  have  you  taken  to  help  departments  weed  out 
potentially  subpar  employees  before  they  are  hired? 

As  mentioned,  the  DA's  office,  as  well  as  most  law  enforcement  agencies,  participate 
in  law  enforcement  recruiting  days  at  schools  and  other  venues.  We,  however,  do 
not  hire  entry  level  police  officers. 

The  DA's  office  along  with  Sheriff's  office  has  held  several  "Citizen  Academies" 
over  the  past  few  years.  This  is  a  twelve  (12)  week  program  (one  night  per  week) 
hosted  by  the  DA's  office.  This  program  was  advertised  through  the  media  and 
encouraged  any  and  all  citizens  to  attend.  The  presenters  were  Deputy  DAs,  DA 
Investigators  and  Sheriffs  deputies.  They  provided  the  attendees  with  "an  inside 
look"  at  the  criminal  justice  system  and  how  all  the  various  law  enforcement 
agencies  work  together  to  ensure  that  the  citizens  of  the  County  live  in  a  secure  safe 
environment  I  am  of  the  opinion  that  these  presentations  were  definitely  a 
recruiting  tool  as  well  as  an  educational  tool. 

I  have  also  participated  in  Women  in  Law  Enforcement  career  day  and  recruitment 
efforts. 

During  the  past  year,  the  DA's  office  had  vacancies  for  peace  officers  that  had  the 
desire  and  the  experience  to  work  fraud  cases.  With  this  in  mind,  the  County  and 
the  DA's  web  sites  were  used  to  advertise  the  need  for  potential  applicants  that  had 
fraud  experience.  Additionally,  we  incorporated  questions  relating  to  fraud 
investigations  into  our  applicants'  interview  process. 


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In  order  to  weed  out  potentially  sub  par  employees,  we  conduct  an  in  depth 
background  investigation. 

Regarding  peace  officer  vacancies  and  recruitment  of  qualified  candidates: 

As  a  result  of  an  early  mandatory  retirement  age,  there  are  a  number  of  retired 
federal  agents/officers  in  California  that  are  interested  in  second  careers  with  local 
law  enforcement  agencies.  These  officers  have  a  great  deal  of  experience  and  could 
be  a  "pool"  of  qualified  candidates  for  detective  and  management  positions.  Current 
POST  policies  prevent  these  federal  officers  from  applying  for  positions  unless  they 
attend  a  26  week  police  academy  (POST  does  not  recognize  federal  law  enforcement 
academies  as  "police  academies"  and  does  not  recognize  any  federal  training  as 
being  sufficient  to  meet  POST  standards). 

POST  currently  requires  that  police  officers  from  other  states  applying  for  positions 
with  agencies  in  California  attend  a  3  week  course  in  order  to  obtain  a  basic  POST 
certificate  which  makes  them  eligible  for  police  officer  positions.  I  would 
recommend  that  POST  develop  a  similar  plan  for  retired  federal  officers. 

7.  What  impact  has  the  nation 's  slowing  economy  had  on  recruitment  of  officers? 
Do  you  see  a  wider  role  for  the  commission  in  publicizing  the  need  for  qualified 
police  personnel? 

A  number  of  law  enforcement  agencies  throughout  California  are  not  hiring  police 
officers  as  a  result  of  the  slowing  economy. 

POST  may  play  a  larger  role  in  the  future  in  publicizing  the  need  for  qualified 
police  personnel  in  the  future.  POST  has  the  ability  to  reach  a  larger  number  of 
potential  candidates  through  the  use  of  the  media  and  its  website. 

8.  What  role  should  the  commission  play,  if  any,  in  working  with  high  schools 
middle  schools  to  address  California 's  high  dropout  rate? 

I  think  that  this  should  be  addressed  by  law  enforcement  agencies.  Law  enforcement 
involvement  would  also  provide  the  opportunity  to  recruit  potential  candidates  for 
law  enforcement  positions.  Many  of  us  participate  in  Fight  Crime:  Invest  in  Kids  that 
seeks  funding  for  schools,  programs  for  kids  and  research  to  help  address  crime 
prevention  and  drop  out  rates. 

TRAINING 

In  a  July  18,  2008,  memorandum,  POST  executive  director  Paul  Cappitelli  said  that, 
while  POST'S  budget  has  remained  relatively  flat,  the  number  of  trainees  for  whom 
agencies  could  seek  reimbursement  climbed  from  54,000  in  2003  to  more  than  68,000  in 
2007,  a  25.9  percent  jump.  "With  no  commensurate  increase  in  revenues,  this  trend 
cannot  be  sustained,"  Cappitelli  said. 


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9.  How  have  recent  budget  cuts  impacted your  training  programs?  Are  you 
encouraging  agencies  to  utilize  more  online  courses? 

Recent  budget  cuts  have  definitely  impacted  training  programs  for  all  law 
enforcement,  including  the  DA's  office.  To  address  this,  the  DA's  office  Bureau  of 
Investigations  (law  enforcement  component  of  the  DA's  office)  provides  in-house 
skills  training  to  all  of  our  investigators.  This  training  meets  or  exceeds  POST 
standards.  DA  Investigators  are  the  instructors  for  these  courses. 

With  few  exceptions,  the  only  other  training  that  is  approved  for  investigators  are 
those  courses  certified  by  POST  that  are  eligible  for  cost  reimbursement 

We  provide  online  training  courses  for  DA  employees  as  does  the  County  of  San 
Diego. 

WEBSITE 

Some  information  on  the  POST  web  site  appears  to  have  been  last  updated  in  2007. 

10.  What  plans  do  you  have  to  regularly  update  your  web  site?  What  do  you  believe 
is  POST'S  responsibility  to  communicate  with  the  public  through  its  web  site? 

The  DA's  office  has  a  DAnet  committee  that  ensures  that  the  DA  website  is  current 
Deputy  DAs,  investigators  and  support  staff  are  members  of  this  committee.  They 
meet  on  a  regular  basis  and  exchange  ideas  and  make  recommendations  regarding 
the  website. 

POST  must  communicate  with  the  public  through  its  website.  With  technology  that 
is  available  today,  people  obtain  a  great  deal  of  information  and  knowledge  by 
visiting  websites  thus  making  it  critical  that  the  webpage  is  current 


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Goals: 

(Question  1)  --  Please  provide  us  with  a  brief  statement  of  your  goals.  What  do 
you  hope  to  accomplish  as  a  member  of  the  commission?  How  will  you 
measure  your  success  at  meeting  these  goals? 

As  a  POST  Commissioner,  I  understand  that  I  represent  and  am  responsible  for  the 
standards  and  high  level  of  training  that  over  80,000  law  enforcement  officers  and  public 
safety  dispatchers  adhere  to  and  receive  in  the  State  of  California  each  year.  Many  other 
states  look  to  the  California  POST  commission  when  developing  like  training  within  their 
jurisdiction.  It  is  my  goal  to  ensure  that  this  high  level  of  training  continues;  that  trends 
be  identified  early  and  appropriate  responses,  in  the  form  of  training  and  information  be 
developed  and  delivered  to  the  law  enforcement  professionals  in  a  timely  and 
professional  manner. 

The  POST  Commission  adopted  its  first  Strategic  Plan  in  1997.  Since  that  time,  the 
plan  has  been  revised  and  updated  every  two  years.  It  reflects  input  from  various  law 
enforcement  stakeholders,  Commissioners  and  POST  staff.  The  Commission  adopts 
each  revision  and  approves  every  update  regarding  the  status  or  progress  being  made  by 
POST  staff  working  on  each  objective.  The  Strategic  Plan  provides  direction  to  every 
member  of  POST  staff  regarding  priorities,  building  for  the  future  and  raising  the  bar  in 
law  enforcement  selection  and  training. 

Background: 

You   have  served   since   1988   as   a   deputy  for  the   Riverside   County  Sheriffs 
Department. 

(Question  2)  -  What  lessons  from  your  own  experience  in  law  enforcement  are 
useful  as  you  help  shape  statewide  law  enforcement  standards? 

As  a  Riverside  County  Deputy  Sheriff,  I  have  served  in  many  different 
assignments.  As  such  I  have  received  over  3300  hours  of  specialized  law  enforcement 
training.  I  have  developed  expertise  in  several  different  subject  matters  and  have  taught 
POST  Certified  classes  to  others.  Based  on  my  training  and  experiences,  I  understand 
the  importance  of  quality  training.  California  is  renowned  for  the  quality  of  the  training 
provided  to  its  law  enforcement  officers.  As  a  Commissioner  on  the  Commission  on 
Peace  Officers  Standards  and  Training,  I  will  ensure  the  continuance  of  quality  and 
relevant  training  to  the  fine  men  and  women  in  the  law  enforcement  profession. 

POST  Background: 

The  Commission  on  Peace  Officer  Standards  and  Training  (POST)  was 
established  by  the  Legislature  in  1959  to  set  minimum  selection  and  training 
standards  for  California  law  enforcement.  It  consists  of  15  members  appointed  by 

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the  Governor  plus  the  Attorney  General  (a  total  of  16  members).  The  POST 
organization  consists  of  120  staff  members  and  functions  under  the  direction  of  an 
executive  director  appointed  by  the  commission.  POST  coordinates  a 
comprehensive  training  program  with  hundreds  of  certified  courses. 

One  major  issue  is  recruitment  of  new  officers.  "For  several  years,  California 
law  enforcement  professionals  and  POST  academy  directors  have  expressed 
concerns  for  the  difficulties  they  are  having  in  recruiting  qualified  police  officer 
candidates.  POST  provides  various  recruitment  related  assistance,"  according  to 
the  POST  Website.  In  2007  the  Contra  Costa  Times  reported  that  there  were  15,000 
vacancies  among  the  95,000  budgeted  peace  officer  jobs  in  California. 

(Question  3)  -  Please  spell  out  the  role  the  commission  is  playing  to  help 
departments  recruit  qualified  candidates.  What  impact  has  the  nation's  slowing 
economy  had  on  recruitment  of  officers?  Do  you  see  a  wider  role  for  your  agency 
in  publicizing  the  need  for  police  personnel? 

Since  1989,  POST  has  conducted  five  recruitment  symposia.  Each  involved 
presentations  by  subject  matter  experts  about  recruitment  and  retention  issues.  The 
symposia  were  attended  by  several  hundred  representatives  of  law  enforcement 
agencies. 

POST  has  developed  a  comprehensive  plan  for  its  role  in  addressing  law 
enforcement  recruitment  issues.  POST  conducted  considerable  research  into  the  issues 
surrounding  recruitment  and  retention  of  peace  officers.  The  result  of  the  research  was 
the  development  of  two  publications,  Peace  Officer  Recruitment  and  Retention:  Best 
Practices,  and  Recruitment  and  Retention  Best  Practices  Update.  Both  documents 
provide  sound  methods  for  improving  the  efforts  of  law  enforcement  agencies  to 
successfully  recruit  and  retain  peace  officers. 

In  2007,  POST  completed  a  comprehensive  survey  of  law  enforcement  agency 
executives  regarding  recruitment  and  retention.  The  survey  revealed  that  law 
enforcement  agencies  are  experiencing  a  statewide  crisis  in  recruiting  qualified 
candidates  to  fill  vacancies  within  their  agencies.  The  study  cited  candidate  pool 
competition,  reduced  interest  in  becoming  peace  officers,  low  wages  and  achieving 
diversity  as  recruiting  challenges. 

In  response  to  the  study,  POST  has  embarked  upon  a  marketing  campaign,  and 
has  arranged  for  regional  testing  and  recruiter  training.  The  POST  Website  has  been 
enhanced  to  reflect  career  opportunities  and  links  to  agencies.  They  have  developed  the 
best  practices  on  recruitment,  and  pre-academy  preparation  materials  for  candidates.  In 
each  instance,  except  the  marketing  campaign,  POST  has  provided  the  resources  to  law 
enforcement  agencies  to  assist  them  in  their  recruitment  efforts.  POST  will  soon  publish  a 
"Recruitment  Strategic  Planning  Guide."  The  document  provides  an  overview  of 


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recruitment  strategic  planning,  a  Recruitment  Strategic  Planning  Checklist,  and  an 
example  of  a  recruitment  strategic  plan  for  law  enforcement  agencies. 

In  reference  to  the  question:  What  impact  has  the  nation's  slowing  economy  had 
on  recruitment  of  officers? 

We  are  just  starting  see  the  impact  on  law  enforcement  agencies.  As  revenues 
decline  and  budgets  become  strained,  many  cities  and  counties  will  balance  their  budgets 
by  reducing  staffing  levels,  and  decreasing  compensation  and  benefits.  As  a  result,  we 
may  see  reductions  to  those  candidates  who  would  otherwise  qualify,  thus  reducing  the 
recruitment  pools  even  more.  Because  of  the  time  associated  with  finding  qualified 
candidates  and  training  recruits,  we  will  not  know  or  understand  the  impact  of  this  slowing 
economy  for  some  time  to  come. 

POST  is  providing  sufficient  resources  to  the  law  enforcement  community,  as  it 
relates  to  recruitment  at  this  time.  As  the  economy  improves,  and  the  need  for  additional 
law  enforcement  personnel  increases,  POST  may  consider  other  options  as  they  deem 
necessary  and  budgets  allow. 

(Question  4)--  The  Commission  has  considered  raising  entry-level  qualifications  to 
becoming  an  officer.  What  is  the  status  of  these  discussions?  If  it  is  done,  how 
would  the  change  affect  recruitment? 

Over  the  past  several  years,  POST  has  developed  a  strategic  plan  which  includes 
many  "objective"  areas  to  address  different  topics.  The  POST  Strategic  Plan  includes 
four  objectives  that  address  this  subject: 

•  A.6.05-  Study  the  feasibility  of  raising  the  entry-level  education  requirement 
above  high  school  or  GED. 

•  A.7.05-  Study  the  feasibility  of  raising  the  entry-level  reading  and  writing 
requirement. 

•  A.8.05-  Study  the  feasibility  of  requiring  reading  and  writing  testing  for  entry 
into  the  basic  academy. 

•  A. 9.08  -  Establish  Basic  Academy  Report  Writing  Resources. 

The  research  involving  each  of  these  objectives  determined  the  potential  impact  of 
raising  entry-level  selection  standards.  The  conclusion  in  each  instance  was  that  the 
elevation  of  the  selection  standards  would  be  detrimental  to  recruitment  efforts  of  law 
enforcement.  Upon  recommendation  by  POST  staff,  the  Commission  deleted  each  of  the 
strategic  plans. 

Following  an  extensive  study,  the  Commission  found  that  resistance  from  the  law 
enforcement  community  exists  to  imposing  a  report  writing  standard,  but  that  strong 
support  exists  for  a  pre-academy  report  writing  curriculum  that  presenters  could 


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voluntarily  adopt.  Following  Commission  direction,  staff  developed  and  made  available 
such  resources  and  objective  A.9.08  was  deleted  as  "completed"  by  Commission  action  in 
January  2009. 

(Question  5)--  Are  any  efforts  underway  to  diversify  law  enforcement  agencies?  If 
so,  please  describe. 

POST  has  no  direct  role  in  the  hiring  decisions  made  by  law  enforcement 
agencies.  However,  considerable  interest  was  identified  in  work  performed  by  POST  to 
improve  recruitment  efforts  within  the  law  enforcement  community.  For  many  law 
enforcement  agencies  there  continues  to  be  both  need  and  interest  in  ensuring  that 
agencies  reflect  the  diversity  of  the  communities  served.  With  this  in  mind,  POST  staff 
worked  with  subject  matter  experts  and  members  of  the  law  enforcement  and  human 
resource  professions  to  develop  best  practices  that  agencies  can  use  in  addressing  the 
need  to  increase  gender  and  ethnic  diversity  within  law  enforcement  agencies. 

One  of  the  publications  developed  by  POST  to  assist  agencies  in  their  efforts  to 
increase  diversity  in  the  workforce  is  found  in,  "Peace  Officer  Recruitment  and  Retention: 
Best  Practices."  It  contains  several  sections  which  address  ways  to  improve  diversity  in 
the  recruiting  process.  They  include:  Selecting  Your  Agency  Recruiter,  Creating  the 
Future  Recruiting  Pool,  Out  of  State  Recruitment  and  Background  Investigations, 
Identifying  Target  Audiences,  Job  Fairs  and  Special  Events  and  Bilingual  Pay.  Another 
publication  developed  to  increase  diversity  in  the  workplace  is  found  in,  "Recruitment  and 
Retention  Best  Practices  Update."  It  contains  an  entire  chapter  dedicated  to  Diversity 
Recruitment  and  Developing  External  Partnerships  to  Improve  Diversity  Recruitment. 

POST  will  soon  publish  the  "Recruitment  Strategic  Planning  Guide."  This  document 
will  help  law  enforcement  agencies  develop  a  recruitment  strategic  plan  to  hire  peace 
officers  and  dispatchers.  Diversity  recruitment  is  included  in  the  recruitment  strategic 
plan. 

Employment: 

The  commission's  strategic  goals  state,  "The  costs  associated  with  subpar 
employee  productivity,  turnover,  and  counter-productive  behavior  are  substantial, 
both  from  a  monetary  and  public  safety  standpoint." 

(Question  6)  ~  What  steps  have  you  taken  to  help  departments  weed  out 
potentially  subpar  employees  before  they  are  hired?  What  sort  of  training  is 
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POST  is  responsible  for  conducting  statewide  research  that  results  in  selection  and 
training  standards  for  entry-level  peace  officers  and  public  safety  dispatchers.  This 
responsibility  includes  the  development  of  selection  tests  used  by  California  law 
enforcement  agencies  to  identify  qualified  peace  officer  and  dispatcher  applicants,  and 
the  development  and  maintenance  of  all  written  and  performance  tests  used  to  assess 
the  knowledge  and  skill  levels  of  peace  officer  trainees  in  California's  basic  training 
academies. 

This  year,  the  entire  set  of  POST  selection  standards  for  both  peace  officers  and 
public  safety  dispatchers  was  revised.  The  procedures  outlined  in  the  new  standards  are 
designed  to  ensure  that  the  most  qualified  candidates  are  selected.  The  procedures 
provide  the  guidance  and  resources  needed  to  ensure  that  agencies  select  candidates 
who  are  capable  of  learning  and  performing  the  essential  job  functions  and 
responsibilities  of  a  peace  officer. 

POST  staff  works  closely  with  local  law  enforcement  agencies  to  provide  these 
resources.  This  collaboration  helps  ensure  that  the  best  possible  candidates  are  selected 
to  fill  California's  law  enforcement  ranks,  and  assures  that  all  standards  and  procedures 
are  job-related  and  legally  defensible,  as  required  by  state  and  federal  employment  laws. 
Additionally,  POST  staff  works  closely  with  all  basic  training  academies  in  California  to 
ensure  that  their  programs  are  in  compliance  with  POST  requirements,  that  their 
instructors  are  well  prepared  and  that  their  students  master  the  knowledge  and  skills 
required  of  peace  officers. 

Training: 

In  a  July  18,  2008,  memorandum,  POST  Executive  Director  Paul  Cappitelli 
said  that  while  POST'S  budget  has  remained  relatively  flat,  the  number  of  trainees 
for  whom  agencies  could  seek  reimbursement  climbed  from  54,000  in  2003  to  more 
than  68,000  in  2007,  a  25.9  percent  jump.  "With  no  commensurate  increase  in 
revenues,  this  trend  cannot  be  sustained,"  Cappitelli  said. 

(Question  7)  -  How  have  recent  budget  cuts  impacted  your  training  programs?  Are 
you  encouraging  agencies  to  utilize  more  online  courses? 

During  these  challenging  economic  times,  POST  is  well  aware  of  the  limitations 
many  cities  and  counties  have  placed  on  staff  travel  and  training.  This  is  reflected  in 
reduced  numbers  of  trainees  being  able  to  travel  to  a  training  site  to  receive  training. 
POST  has  reacted  to  this  reality  by  ensuring  that  its  staff  keeps  the  law  enforcement 
community  informed  about  the  availability  of  online  training. 

Other  administrative  issues  include  resources.  It  is  becoming  apparent  that  in  order 
to  meet  the  demand  for  more  training  and  to  keep  the  promise  implied  by  the 
establishment  of  the  Learning  Portal,  decisions  will  need  to  be  made  regarding  a 


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consistent  funding  source,  as  well  as  sufficient  personnel  and  resources  in  the  future. 
However,  despite  limited  staff  (one  engineer,  two  designers,  and  a  supervisor)  and  limited 
funding,  staff  has  managed  to  produce  and  support  several  successful  training  programs. 
Currently,  the  Portal  hosts  instructor  and  law  enforcement  resources,  discussion  groups, 
and  training  courses. 

(Question  8)  --  One  of  your  goals  has  been  to  develop  a  distance  learning  plan  for 
delivery  of  Web-based  training.  What  progress  have  you  made  toward  this  goal? 

POST  has  set  high  standards  for  online  training.  This  push  for  quality  learning 
experiences  for  the  student  has  paid  off.  Comments  by  users  have  been  overwhelmingly 
positive  about  the  courses,  and  they  would  like  to  see  more  training  available  via  the 
Learning  Portal. 

Currently,  the  Portal  hosts  seven  online  courses  and  one  video  course  as  well  as 
over  90  resources.  There  are  over  25,000  registered  users  who  have  recorded  over 
28,000  course  completions  resulting  in  over  109,500  CPT  hours  awarded. 

POST  has  five  courses  in  development:  Identity  Theft,  Gangs,  Search  Warrant 
Fundamentals,  Environmental  Crimes,  and  Instructor  Development  -  Learning  Outcomes. 
In  addition,  a  search  warrant  writing  tool  is  in  development  which  will  help  novices 
develop  search  warrants.  POST  is  also  working  to  develop  a  tool  to  help  investigators 
with  foundational  investigation  skills. 

(Question  9)  -  Some  information  on  the  POST  Web  site  was  last  updated  in  2007. 
Given  an  expected  increase  in  Web  use,  what  plans  do  you  have  to  regularly 
update  the  Web  site? 

Two  new  Budget  Change  Proposals  (BCPs)  for  Fiscal  Year  2009/2010  are  in  the 
State  Budget.  One  BCP  provides  funding  ($425,000/year)  for  course  and  performance 
support  tool  development  for  two  years.  The  second  BCP  authorizes  an  additional 
Instructional  Systems  Engineer  position  which  is  needed  to  support  the  Portal,  courses, 
and  tools.  POST  was  successful  in  securing  authorization  for  these  critical  items  because 
of  the  current  economic  situation.  These  items  will  have  a  direct  impact  on  reduced  local 
law  enforcement  travel  and  training  budgets. 


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(Responses 

SHERIFF  LAURIE  SMITH 

SANTA  CLARA  COUNTY  OFFICE  OF  THE  SHERIFF 

RESPONSES  TO  SENATE  RULES  COMMITTEE  QUESTIONS  -  2009 

Goals 

As  a  member  of  the  Commission  on  Peace  Officer  Standards  and  Training,  my  goal  is  to 
continue  to  advance  the  objectives  of  the  Peace  Officer  Standards  and  Training  (POST) 
Strategic  Plan  and  follow  POST'S  mission  to  continually  enhance  the  professionalism  of 
California  law  enforcement.  In  addition  to  having  the  necessary  experience,  I  also  have 
the  passion  and  dedication  to  help  raise  the  bar  on  POST  selection  and  training  standards, 
improve  the  quality  and  impact  of  training,  and  provide  insight  to  enhance  POST'S 
services. 


Question  1:  Are  you  satisfied  with  your  progress  toward  meeting  your  goals?  How 
do  you  measure  success?  How  have  your  goals  changed  since  you  were 
first  appointed? 

I  am  satisfied  with  my  progress  in  meeting  my  goals  and  am  confident  that  I  can  continue 
to  meet  my  goals  in  my  role  as  a  member  of  the  Commission  on  Peace  Officer  Standards 
and  Training. 

Some  examples  of  how  I  have  facilitated  the  advancement  of  specific  objectives 
identified  within  the  POST  Strategic  Plan  are  centered  on  being  a  certified  provider  for  a 
POST  Basic  Academy  Course.  My  staff  continually  strives  to  enhance  the  quality  and 
impact  of  training  to  new  law  enforcement  recruits  as  well  as  in-service  law  enforcement 
professionals  and  work  closely  with  other  academies  to  ensure  standardization  is 
maintained  throughout  the  State.  My  staff  recently  created  a  County  Wide  Crisis 
Intervention  Training  (CIT)  course  as  a  result  of  recognizing  the  benefit  this  training  will 
have  on  law  enforcement  officers  as  well  as  the  community.  Due  to  its  demonstrated 
success,  we  are  currently  exploring  the  possibility  of  incorporating  an  abbreviated 
element  of  this  training  into  the  Basic  Academy  Course.  In  addition,  my  Basic  Academy 
Director  participated  in  a  POST  feasibility  study  formulated  to  upgrade  the  current  Basic 
Academy  Course  Certification  process.  Most  recently  I  identified  the  need  of  an 
additional  Regional  Skills  Training  Center  in  Santa  Clara  County  to  satisfy  a  progressive 
demand  for  local  law  enforcement  agencies  requiring  the  mandated  driver  training  and 
force  options  training.  These  are  local  examples  of  how  I  have  helped  execute  the 
objectives  and  standards  identified  by  the  Commission  on  Peace  Officer  Standards  and 
Training.  Success  can  be  measured  by  the  number  of  individuals  that  graduate  from  the 
Santa  Clara  County  Justice  Training  Center  Academy  and  continue  to  improve  and 
successfully  complete  the  FTO  program. 

Senate  Rules  Committee 

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Question  2:     How  does  your  own  experience  in  law  enforcement  shape  your  priorities 
as  you  determine  statewide  law  enforcement  standards? 

As  the  Sheriff  of  Santa  Clara  County  with  over  35  years  of  law  enforcement  experience,  I  have  a 
unique  global  perspective  of  what  is  needed  to  establish  and  maintain  necessary  standards  that 
will  facilitate  progressive  growth  of  the  law  enforcement  profession  throughout  the  State. 

The  knowledge  and  experience  I  have  gained  leading  my  organization,  combined  with  my 
participation  on  the  State  Sheriffs  Association  and  local  Police  Chiefs  Association,  has  afforded 
me  numerous  opportunities  to  discuss  law  enforcement  trends  and  philosophies  with  Sheriffs  and 
Police  Chiefs  throughout  the  State.  Through  these  relationships  I  have  established  within  the  law 
enforcement  community,  I  have  developed  a  foundational  understanding  of  what  leads  to 
organizational  and  professional  failure  and  success.  This  understanding  provides  me  with  the 
necessary  perspective  to  identify  and  prioritize  critical  standards  that  will  enhance  the  law 
enforcement  profession  today  and  in  the  future. 

My  experience  has  also  been  enhanced  by  my  appointment  as  a  Commissioner  of  the 
Commission  on  Peace  Office  Standards  and  Training  (POST)  for  two  separate  terms.  One  of  my 
goals  as  a  POST  Commissioner  has  been  to  advance  the  objectives  set  forth  in  the  POST  Strategic 
Plan.  I  recognize  the  importance  of  the  Strategic  Plan  and  have  not  only  contributed  to  its 
development,  but  also  helped  ensure  the  objectives  are  attained. 


Recruitment 

Question  3:      What  is  the  status  of  any  initiatives  the  commission  has  taken  to  steer 

youth  toward  careers  in  law  enforcement?  What  outcomes,  if  any,  have 
you  experienced  so  far? 

Question  6:      Wliat  role,  if  any,  should  the  commission  play  in  working  with  high 
schools  or  middles  (sic)  schools  to  address  the  need  for  workforce 
development  in  the  law  enforcement  sector? 

The  information  that  addresses  Question  3  and  Question  6  is  related  and  has  been 
consolidated  below: 

In  the  past  decade,  California's  law  enforcement's  recruitment  efforts  have  faced  many 
challenges  including,  but  not  limited  to  intense  interagency  competition  at  the  state  and 
federal  level  and  competition  from  other  professions  such  as  nursing,  teaching, 
firefighters  and  the  military.  And,  because  existing  law  specifies  stringent  requirements 
to  be  a  peace  officer,  it  is  not  uncommon  for  an  agency  to  process  1000  applicants  only  to 
harvest  100  candidates  after  investing  significant  time  and  expense  in  the  form  of 
recruitment  efforts,  psychological  testing  and  background  investigations.  A  term 
commonly  expressed  by  law  enforcement  officials  is  "the  dwindling  pool  of  candidates". 
Continually  increasing  efforts  to  identify  candidates  in  a  dwindling  pool  fails  to  recognize 
that  efforts  have  to  be  made  to  improve  the  stream  of  candidates  into  the  pool.  Objective 
B.8.08  of  POST'S  Strategic  Plan  directs  staff  to  "study  the  feasibility  of  a  model  high 
school  program  that  can  be  replicated  statewide.  "    As  a  result,  considerable  outreach 


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efforts  to  the  Department  of  Education  were  made  in  2008  to  incorporate  statewide 
standardized  components  of  basic  peace  officer  training  into  high  school  programs, 
Grades  10-12.  Meetings  have  been  held  to  identify  curriculum  and  testing  that  address 
core  issues  in  police  service  that  can  be  integrated  into  these  programs;  including,  but  not 
limited  to  report  writing,  ethics  and  professionalism,  first  aid,  criminal  law,  physical 
conditioning  and  the  criminal  justice  system.  Integrating  standardized  components  in  a 
high  school  curriculum  will  facilitate  the  transition  from  high  school,  to  junior  college 
and  ultimately  into  an  academy  to  begin  a  career  in  law  enforcement.  By  accomplishing 
this,  an  increase  in  qualified  peace  officer  candidates  is  expected  to  help  law  enforcement 
recruitment.  A  collateral  benefit  will  be  a  reduction  in  the  dropout  rate  in  schools 
participating  in  this  program.  Strategies  are  presently  being  developed,  in  conjunction 
with  educators  and  program  subject  matter  resources  to  systematically  integrate  this 
curriculum  into  the  California  private  and  public  schools  systems.  The  commission 
regularly  receives  status  reports  on  the  progress  of  this  objective. 

Question  4:      What  have  you  done  to  help  departments  recruit  qualified  candidates? 
What  steps  have  you  taken  to  help  departments  weed  out  potentially 
subpar  employees  before  they  are  hired? 

Question  5:      What  impact  has  the  nation 's  slowing  economy  had  on  recruitment  of 
officers?  Do  you  see  a  wider  role  for  the  commission  in  publicizing  the 
need  for  qualified  police  personnel? 

The  information  that  addresses  Question  4  and  Question  5  is  related  and  has  been 
consolidated  below: 

The  Santa  Clara  County  Sheriffs  Office  has  two  areas  in  our  hiring  process  that  assist  in 
eliminating  potentially  sub-par  employees  before  they  are  hired:  (1)  the  profile  of  the 
model  employee  we  are  looking  for  and  (2)  the  extensive  screening  process. 

The  Profile:  In  the  initial  phase,  there  is  a  focus  on  candidates  who  either  possess  some 
level  of  higher  education  or  some  type  of  military  service,  (entry  level  Deputy  Sheriff 
currently  requires  at  least  60  college  semester  units).  Over  the  years,  it  has  been 
determined  that  candidates  with  some  level  of  either  educational  or  military  experience 
are  more  focused  and  have  better  developed  value/ethical  profiles.  It  has  also  been 
determined  that  it  is  irrelevant  what  the  subject  matter  of  the  educational  experience  is,  as 
long  as  the  classes  were  taken  and  completed  with  some  level  of  competency. 


There  is  an  attempt  to  identify  applicants  that  have  the  ability  to  multi-task  at  some  level. 
This  experience  is  often  difficult  to  pinpoint  in  the  applicants'  background.  However, 
once  identified,  it  can  be  assumed  that  the  applicant  will  have  a  better  chance  with 
manipulative  skill  sets  like  calmly  talking  on  the  radio  while  driving  a  car  at  high  speeds. 

The  Sheriffs  Office  seeks  applicants  that  have  demonstrated  their  ability  to  calmly 
handle  major  life  issues.  This  would  include  events  like  marriage,  divorce,  relationships, 
finding  a  job,  keeping  jobs,  etc.  Although  this  is  sometimes  referred  to  as  maturity,  it  is 


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believed  that  it  is  more  likely  the  ability  to  confront  and  handle  one's  personal  problems 
effectively.  It  is  unlikely  that  a  Deputy  Sheriff  could  competently  handle  another 
individual's  issues  while  in  the  field  if  he/she  has  not  yet  demonstrated  an  inherent  ability 
to  handle  his/her  own  personal  obstacles. 

The  Process:  The  Santa  Clara  County  Sheriffs  Office  selection  process  begins  like  most 
with  an  entry  level  written  test  and  a  physical  agility.  After  passing  these  tests,  applicants 
are  screened  for  high-risk  behavior  through  the  use  of  a  personal  history  questionnaire 
(PHQ).  The  PHQ  is  basically  a  written  inquiry  into  several  critical  areas  of  the 
applicants'  background.  The  answers  are  place  into  a  computer  and  screened  for  "areas 
of  concern"  relating  to  impulse  behaviors,  ethical  behaviors,  and  anger  management.  If 
applicants  score  high  in  any  one  of  these  areas  they  are  either  eliminated  or  called  in  for  a 
one-on-one  interview  with  our  staff. 

Once  the  PHQ  process  has  been  completed,  all  applicants  are  interviewed/screened  to 
ensure  they  meet  the  agency  profile,  or  have  the  ability  to  meet  the  agency  profile  in  the 
future.  Those  individuals  determined  to  not  possess  the  agency  profile,  or  possess  the 
potential  to  meet  the  agency  profile,  are  eliminated  from  the  selection  process  at  this 
point. 

Once  this  initial  interview  has  been  completed,  a  background  investigator  completes  an 
extensive  three-hour  interview  in  an  effort  to  discover  any  derogatory  information  that 
would  keep  the  applicant  from  being  employed  by  our  agency.  The  results  of  this 
interview  are  documented  and  sent  to  our  internal  staff  for  review. 

Since  1989  POST  has  conducted  five  recruitment  symposiums.  The  two  largest  ones  took 
place  in  200 land  in  2005.  Each  involved  presentations  by  subject  matter  experts  about 
recruitment  and  retention  issues.  Several  hundred  representatives  of  law  enforcement 
agencies  attended  these  symposia.  POST  also  provided  training  with  an  emphasis  on  the 
needs  of  executives  and  recruiters.  Strategic  Plan  objective  C.3.06  —  Develop  a 
comprehensive  plan  for  POST'S  role  in  addressing  law  enforcement  recruitment  issues, 
has  guided  the  efforts  of  POST  staff  to  address  recruitment  issues  since  2006.  At  the  2008 
Strategic  Plan  Stakeholders  meeting,  it  was  recommended  that  public  safety  dispatchers 
be  included  in  the  recruitment  plan. 

In  2001  and  again  in  2006,  POST  conducted  considerable  research  into  the  issues 
surrounding  recruitment  and  retention  of  peace  officers.  The  result  of  the  research  was 
the  development  of  two  publications,  Peace  Officer  Recruitment  and  Retention:  Best 
Practices  -  July  2001  (http://www.post.ca.gov/selection/recruit.pdf)  and  Recruitment  and 
Retention  Best  Practices  Update  -  April  2006 
http://www.post.ca.gov/training/bestpractices/RecruitmentBestPrac.pdf). 

Both  documents  provide  sound  methods  for  improving  the  efforts  of  law  enforcement 
agencies  to  successfully  recruit  and  retain  peace  officers. 


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Question  7:      You  noted  in  your  2007  letter  that  the  commission  directed  staff  to  study 
the  feasibility  of  establishing  a  statewide  writing  standard  for  exit  from 
the  basic  course  for  peace  officers.   What  is  the  status  of  that  study? 

Following  extensive  study,  staff  reported  to  the  Commission  in  January  2008  that 
substantial  resistance  exists  to  the  imposition  of  an  academy  report  writing  exit  standard. 
However,  strong  support  exists  for  the  development  of  a  pre-academy  report  writing 
curriculum  and  test  that  presenters  could  voluntarily  adopt.  Accordingly,  a  curriculum 
resource  document  was  developed  and  approved  by  the  Commission  in  January  2009. 
POST  staff  is  currently  carrying  out  a  study  to  develop  a  valid  basic  course  report  writing 
exit  test  that  academies  can  adopt  on  a  voluntary  basis.  The  project  is  on  schedule  to  be 
completed  in  the  spring  of  2010. 


Question  8:      What  is  the  status  of  the  study  you  cited  on  the  viability  of  administering 
a  pre-employment  personality  assessment  to  peace  officer  candidates? 

Strategic  Objective  A.l  calls  for  POST  to  "Establish  personality  assessment  for  entry- 
level  selection.''''  Pursuant  to  this  objective,  in  2004,  the  Commission  initiated  a  two- 
year  project  to  thoroughly  evaluate  the  existing  job  relatedness  evidence  and  other 
pertinent  research  findings  for  tests  of  general  personality  characteristics 
(conscientiousness,  extraversion,  etc.)  that  could  be  administered  prior  to  a  conditional 
job  offer  (i.e.,  pre-offer  personality  tests).  The  research  was  completed  in  2007  and 
POST  staff  began  the  development  of  a  resource  document  for  agencies  wishing  to 
pursue  pre-offer  personality  testing. 

Concurrent  with  development  of  the  guide,  staff  developed  a  web-based  application  for 
test  publishers  to  provide  information  about  specific  tests.  It  is  expected  that  the 
information  provided  by  the  test  publishers  will  be  available  to  POST  agencies  as  part  of 
a  centralized  database. 

The  intent  of  the  resource  guide  and  web  application  is  to  assist  agencies  in  making 
decisions  about  the  use  of  pre-offer  personality  tests  based  on  local  needs  and  resources. 
Agencies  that  utilize  such  testing  are  encouraged  to  work  collaboratively  with  POST  to 
evaluate  how  well  the  tests  work;  however,  no  attempt  will  be  made  to  influence  agencies 
decision  making  process. 

The  estimated  date  for  completion  of  the  resource  document  and  release  of  the  associated 
web-based  application  is  December,  2009. 

Question  9:     Please  describe  and  discuss  any  efforts  underway  to  diversify  law 
enforcement  agencies. 

POST  has  no  direct  role  in  the  hiring  decisions  made  by  law  enforcement  agencies. 
However,  considerable  interest  was  identified  in  work  performed  by  POST  to  improve 
recruitment  efforts  within  the  law  enforcement  community.  For  many  law  enforcement 


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agencies  there  continues  to  be  both  need  and  interest  in  ensuring  that  agencies  reflect  the 
diversity  of  the  communities  served.  This  is  illustrated  in  surveys  conducted  by  POST 
staff  in  2000,  2005  and  2007.  With  this  in  mind,  staff  worked  with  subject  matter  experts 
and  law  enforcement  and  human  resource  professionals  to  develop  best  practices  that 
agencies  can  use  in  addressing  the  need  to  increase  gender  and  ethnic  diversity  within  law 
enforcement  agencies. 

One  of  the  publications  developed  by  POST  to  assist  agencies  in  their  efforts  to  increase 
diversity  in  the  workforce  is  found  in  Peace  Officer  Recruitment  and  Retention:  Best 
Practices  -  July  2001  (http://wvt-'w.post.ca.gov/selection/recruit.pdf).  It  contains  several 
sections  on  ways  to  improve  diversity  in  the  recruiting  process.  They  include:  Selecting 
Your  Agency  Recruiter,  Creating  the  Future  Recruiting  Pool,  Out  of  State  Recruitment 
and  Background  Investigations,  Identifying  Target  Audiences,  Job  Fairs  and  Special 
Events  and  Bilingual  Pay. 

Another  publication  developed  by  POST  to  assist  agencies  in  their  efforts  to  increase 
diversity  in  the  workplace  is  found  in  Recruitment  and  Retention  Best  Practices  Update 
April  2006  (http:/A\ww.post.ca.gov/training/bestpractices/RecruitmentBestPrac.pdf).  It 
contains  an  entire  chapter  dedicated  to  Diversity  Recruitment  (Chapter  3)  and  Developing 
External  Partnership  to  Improve  Diversity  Recruitment  (Chapter  8). 

POST  will  soon  publish  the  Recruitment  Strategic  Planning  Guide.  This  document  will 
help  law  enforcement  agencies  develop  a  recruitment  strategic  plan  to  hire  peace  officers 
and  dispatchers. 

Diversity  recruitment  is  included  in  the  recruitment  strategic  plan  example  provided  in 
the  document. 

Information  Technology: 

Question  10:  Given  current  budget  restraints,  how  have  you  been  able  to  maintain  or 
improve  your  online  training?  Are  you  encouraging  agencies  to  utilize 
more  online  courses? 

POST  has  long  been  a  leader  in  the  development  of  technology-based  training  for  law 
enforcement.  In  1991,  ACR  58  established  the  POST  Learning  Technology  Resource 
Center  (LTRC),  which  spearheaded  the  development  of  computer-based  training 
programs,  first  on  interactive  videodisc  and  then  on  CD-ROM.  LTRC  is  now  developing 
Internet-based  training  programs  and  performance  tools  for  California  law  enforcement 
accessed  via  the  POST  Learning  Portal. 

Despite  limited  staff  (1  engineer,  two  designers,  and  a  supervisor)  and  limited  funding, 
staff  has  managed  to  produce  and  support  several  successful  training  programs. 
Currently,  the  Portal  hosts  instructor  and  law  enforcement  resources,  discussion  groups, 
and  training  courses. 


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Question  1 1 :    What  plan  do  you  have  to  regularly  update  your  web  site?  What  do  you 
believe  is  POST'S  responsibility  to  communicate  with  the  public  through 
its  web  site? 

The  Sheriffs  Office  recently  updated  its  website.  Overall,  POST'S  public  website 
(www.post.ca.gov)  is  continually  updated;  however,  some  sections  are  static  and  rarely 
change.  Various  sections  such  as  the  Administrative  Progress  Report,  the  Course  Catalog, 
and  the  California  POST  Training  Network  are  updated  monthly.  The  Law  Enforcement 
Job  Opportunities,  Bulletins,  and  Regulatory  Notices  are  posted  bi-monthly  and/or  on  an 
as-needed  basis.  The  "What's  New"  section  on  the  POST  homepage  highlights  the 
new/updated  program  information. 

POST  believes  in  transparency  in  state  government  and  ensures  that  all  public 
information  is  readily  accessible  via  www.post.ca.gov.  As  an  agency  of  state 
government,  POST  has  complied  with  the  CA.gov  web  site  design,  accessibility,  and 
usability  standards  and  best  practices.  All  new  information  on  the  website  is  being 
developed  in  the  CA.gov  new  "look  and  feel,"  and  POST  is  working  toward  total 
conversion  in  the  upcoming  year. 

Since  the  POST  web  site  has  many  types  of  visitors,  the  POST  homepage  was  designed 
to  help  different  types  of  visitors  locate  the  information  they  need.  Information  for 
potential  applicants,  investigators,  dispatchers,  and  peace  officers  is  readily  accessible 
from  the  homepage.  The  CA.gov  requirements  include  accessibility  for  persons  with 
disabilities. 

Most  recently,  Really  Simple  Syndication  (RSS)  feeds  on  several  sections  on  the  web  site 
were  implemented  to  allow  visitors  to  keep  themselves  informed  on  the  latest  POST  news 
and  updates  with  minimal  effort.  POST  intends  to  add  additional  web  features  which  will 
enable  visitors  to  find  needed  information  faster. 

POST  staff  continues  to  keep  abreast  of  new,  emerging  technologies  to  further  enhance 
POST'S  online  presence. 


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HADI   MAKARECHIAN,    Member,    The    Regents    of  the 
University    of  California. 

WILLIAM     HAUCK,    Member,    Trustees    of  the    California 
State    Univers  ity 

HENRY    MENDOZA,    Member,    Trustees    of   the    California 
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APPEARANCES 
MEMBERS     PRESENT 

SENATOR  DARRELL    STEINBERG,    Chair 

SENATOR  GIL    CEDILLO 

SENATOR  SAMUEL    AANESTAD 

SENATOR  ROBERT     DUTTON 

SENATOR  JENNY     OROPEZA 

STAFF     PRESENT 

GREG     SCHMIDT,    Executive    Officer 
JANE     LEONARD     BROWN,    Committee    Assistant 
NETTIE    SABELHAUS,    Appointments    Consultant 
DAN     SAVAGE,    Assistant    to    SENATOR    CEDILLO 
JULIE     NYSTROM,    Assistant    to    SENATOR    AANESTAD 
CHRIS     BURNS,    Assistant    to    SENATOR     DUTTON 
BRENDAN     HUGHES,    Assistant    to    SENATOR     OROPEZA 

ALSO     PRESENT 

GEOFFREY    L.    BAUM,    Member,    California    Community 
Colleges    Board    of   Governors 

SCOTT    B.    HIMELSTEIN,    Member,    California    Community 
Colleges    Board    of  Governors 

LANCE    T.    IZUMI,    Member,    California    Community 
Colleges    Board    of   Governors 

GARY     E.    REED,    Member,    California    Community 
Colleges    Board    of   Governors 


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Proceedings 


INTRODUCTION     OF    GARY     E.    REED     BY 
SENATOR     ROY    ASHBURN     3 

INTRODUCTION     OF     GEOFFREY     L.    BAUM      BY 
SENATOR     CAROL    LIU     4 

INTRODUCTION     OF    SCOTT     B.    HIMELSTEIN     BY 
SENATOR     MARK     WYLAND     5 

INTRODUCTION     OF    HENRY     MENDOZA     BY 
SENATOR     RON     CALDERON     7 

INTRODUCTION     OF    HADI    MAKARECHIAN     BY 
SENATOR    TOM     HARMAN     8 

INTRODUCTION     OF    LANCE     IZUMI    BY 

SENATOR    JACK     SCOTT    10 

Opening    Statements    by    Governor's    Appointees: 

GEOFFREY    L.    BAUM,    Member,    California 
Community    Colleges    Board    of   Governors    

SCOTT    B.    HIMELSTEIN,    Member,    California 
Community    Colleges    Board    of   Governors 

LANCE    T.    IZUMI,    Member.    California 
Community    Colleges    Board    of    Governors    

GARY    E.    REED,    Member,    California    Community 
Colleges    Board    of    Governors    13 


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HADI  MAKARECHIAN,   Member,  The   Regents  of  the 
University   of  California   82 

K-12   funding   going   to   community 

Questions   by    CHAIRMAN    STEINBERG    re: 

University  of  California   being 
more  collaborative   with   other 

Questions   to   All  Appointees  by 
SENATOR    OROPEZA    re: 

Role  of  community   colleges   32 

Goal  of  veterans  committee   33 

Listing  of  community  colleges 
re   career  goals  for  incoming 

Executive  compensation    85 

Ramifications   with   respect  to 

Questions  to  All  Appointees  by 
SENATOR    CEDILLO    re: 

Actions  by  the  State  to  enable 
community   colleges  to   do  their 
jobs   3  7 

Necessity   for  exorbitant 

Question    by   SENATOR    CEDILLO    re: 
Danger  to   system    if  efforts  are 

Change   in   funding   39 

Result  of  less  funding   40 

Actions  by   legislature  to 
facilitate  greater  interface 
between  community  colleges,  CSU 

Questions   by   SENATOR    OROPEZA    re: 
Blue   and   Gold   plan/Access   for 

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Opening   Statements   by   Governor's  Appointees: 

WILLIAM    HAUCK,   Member,  Trustees   of  the 
California   State   University   53 

HENRY   MENDOZA,   Member,  Trustees  of  the 
California   State   University   49 

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CHAIRMAN    STEINBERG:     The    Senate    Rules   Committee 
will  come   to   order.     I   want  to   apologize   that  we  are 
starting   35   minutes  late.     We   had   a   lengthy   caucus 
dealing   with   the   issues  that  you   could   probably   guess  we 
were  talking   --   we  should   be  talking   about,   so   I 
apologize   for   holding   everybody    up. 

Let's  begin   this  afternoon,   though,   by   calling 
the  roll. 

MS.    BROWN:     Senator   Cedillo. 

D  u  tton  . 

O  ro  peza . 

SENATOR    OROPEZA:      Here. 

MS.    BROWN:      Oropeza    here. 

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SENATOR    AANESTAD:      Here. 

MS.   BROWN:     Aanestad   here. 

S  te  in  b  e  rg  . 

CHAIRMAN    STEINBERG:      Here. 

MS.   BROWN:     Steinberg   here. 

CHAIRMAN    STEINBERG:     Let  me   begin   on   a   very   sad 
note.     The   Rules   Committee   was  sorry  to   learn   of  the 
death    of  Tiffany    Rystrom    yesterday.     Tiffany    was   the 
chair  of  the   Public   Employment   Relations   Board,   and   she 
was  going   to   be   up   for  confirmation   here   over  the   next 

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Alternatives   to    A    to    G    course 

Integration   of  rigorous 

curriculum    with   pathways   56 

Questions  to   Both   Appointees   by 
S  EN  ATO  R    OROPEZA    re: 

Title   IX    6  1 

Hiring   of  contract  lobbyists                  69 

Question   to   Both   Appointees   by 
SEN  ATO  R    CEDILLO"  re: 

Collaboration   between   community 
colleges,  CSU   and   U.C.  system    73 

Question   to   Mr.   Hauck   by 
SENATOR    AANESTAD    re: 

Length   of  time  to   graduation   from 
CSU   system    77 

Witness   in    Support  of  HENRY    MENDOZA: 
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1  several  months.   And  we  want  to  send  our  condolences  to 

2  Ms.  Rystrom's  family  and  friends,  and  express  the  sorrow 

3  about  the  loss  not  only  to  her  loved  ones  but  to  public 

4  service  of  the  State  of  California  as  well.   Thank  you. 

5  Maybe  we  could  --  I  know  it's  not  tradition, 

6  but  a  moment  of  silence.   Could  we  do  that,  please. 

7  Thank  you. 

8  (Pause.) 

9  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you.    All  right. 

10  Let  us  begin.   I  know  we  have  a  number  of  Members  here, 

11  and  former  Members.   We  will  accommodate  the  Members 

12  here  rather  quickly,  but  we  need  to  dispense  first  with 

13  a  couple  items  of  business. 

14  (Discussion  of  the  record  re  file  items 

15  one  and  two.) 

16  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    All  right.    Now  we  move  to 

17  the  governor's  appointments  appearing  today.    Let  me 

18  just  say  at  the  outset  I'm  very  pleased  to  have  all  of 

19  our  higher-education  appointees  pending  confirmation 

20  with  us  today.   We've  been  spending  a  lot  of  weeks  and 

21  time  on  corrections,  parole,  and  it's,  frankly,  nice  to 

22  talk  about  education. 

23  Not  only  are  the  positions  that  are  up  for 

24  confirmation  today  significant,  but  the  terms  they  fill 

25  are  some  of  the  longest  terms  for  any  appointed 

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2  community  colleges  of  California.    He  is  here  for 

3  reconfirmation. 

4  Gary  Reed  is  eminently  qualified  for  this 

5  position,  having  previously  served  as  a  member  of  the 

6  teacher  credentialing  commission  for  the  State  of 

7  California.   He  is  a  former  high-school  math  teacher, 

8  and  so  intimately  connected  with  young  people  and 

9  education,  has  a  deep  and  abiding  commitment  to  our 

10  young  people.    He's  a  former  Tulare  County  supervisor, 

11  and  so  he's  served  in  local  government.   He's  an 

12  extraordinary  person  in  that  he  is  very  keen  in  his 

13  connection  with  the  way  in  which  people  value  the 

14  resources  of  our  state,  the  minds  of  our  young  people. 

15  And  I  know  that  he  will  do  an  extraordinary  job. 

16  So,  Mr.  President,  I  would  commend  to  you 

17  Gary  Reed  for  reappointment  to  the  board  of  governors. 

18  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Thank  you,  Senator 

19  Ashburn.   We  appreciate  it. 

20  SENATOR  ASHBURN:    Thank  you. 

21  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Senator  Liu. 

22  SENATOR  LIU:    Thank  you,  Mr.  President  and 

23  Members.   It's  my  pleasure  to  introduce  a  constituent  of 

24  mine,  Geoffrey  Baum,  for  confirmation  as  a  member  of  the 

25  California  Community  Colleges  Board  of  Governors. 

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2  Community  College  Board  of  Governors  has  a  six-year 

3  term;  a  CSU  trustee  has  an  eight-year  term;  and  a 

4  U.C.  regent  has,  in  fact,  a  12-year  term.    So  these  are 

5  appointments  that,  in  our  view,  require  some  special 

6  consideration,  because  they  do  in  fact  reach  so  far 

7  into  the  future. 

8  So  we  want  to  have  a  discussion  with  all  of  you 

9  today  about  not  only  your  view  of  your  role,  but  your 

10  view  of  higher  education  in  California,  and  how  we 

11  address  the  economic  realities  of  our  time  at  the  same 

12  time  we  prepare  the  educated  and  trained  workforce  of 

13  the  future. 

14  So  let  us  begin  here.    Now,  I  want  to 

15  accommodate  Senator  Ashburn,  Senator  Liu,  and 

16  Senator  Wyland,  who  I'm  sure  have  other  busy  schedules. 

17  The  order  that  we're  going  to  take  up  is,  first,  the 

18  community  college  trustees;  but  if  any  of  you  are  here 

19  for  anybody  else,  I  will  allow  you  to  come  up  now  and 

20  introduce  your  member,  but  then  we'll  take  up  the  member 

21  in  a  little  bit. 

22  So  Senators. 

23  SENATOR  ASHBURN:    Mr.  President,  Senators,  I'm 

24  very  happy  to  be  here  today  to  introduce  to  you 

25  Gary  Reed,  who  currently  serves  as  a  member  of  the  board 

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2  you  and  numerous  letters  of  support.   I  only  want  to 

3  emphasize,  based  on  my  personal  experience,  what  a 

4  valuable  contribution  I  believe  he  will  make  to  the 

5  board.    He  brings  a  breadth  of  organizational  and 

6  communication  skills,  and  interpersonal  skills  as  well, 

7  and  he  has  had  experience  as  a  past  president  of  the 

8  Pasadena  City  College  Board  of  Trustees.   And  I 

9  certainly  hope  you  give  him  your  kind  consideration. 

10  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Thank  you,  Senator  Liu. 

11  Senator  Wyland. 

12  SENATOR  WYLAND:    Mr.  Chair  and  Members,  I  take 

13  really  great  pleasure  in  introducing  Scott  Himelstein, 

14  also  for  the  board  of  governors  at  the  community 

15  colleges. 

16  I  have  known  Scott  for  several  years,  but  when 

17  I  read  his  C.V.,  there  were  some  things  I  didn't  even 

18  know  about.    He  was  the  founder  of  the  Even  Start 

19  Foundation  in  the  mid  '90s,  executive  director  of 

20  California  Reading  Recovery.    Under  those  two  programs, 

21  they  made  enormous  efforts  in  bringing  books  and 

22  literacy  skills  to  children  who  might  not  have  otherwise 

23  had  them. 

24  He  was  the  president  of  the  Lynch  Foundation 

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HADI   MAKARECHIAN,   Member,  The   Regents   of  the 

K-12   funding   going   to   community 

Questions   by    CHAIRMAN    STEINBERG    re: 

University   of  California   being 
more  collaborative   with   other 
systems  84 

Questions  to   All  Appointees  by 
SENATOR    OROPEZA    re: 

Role  of  community   colleges   32 

Goal  ofveterans  committee   33 

Listing  of  community  colleges 
re  career  goals  for  incoming 

Ramifications  with   respect  to 
limiting  compensation   89 

Questions  to  All  Appointees  by 
SENATOR    CED  ILLO    re: 

Actions  by  the  State  to  enable 
community   colleges  to   do   their 
jobs   37 

Result  of  less   funding    40 

Actions  by   legislature  to 
facilitate  greater  interface 
between   community   colleges,  CSU 

Necessity  for  exorbitant 

Question    by    SENATOR    CEDILLO    re: 
Danger  to   system    if  efforts  are 

Questions   by    SENATOR    OROPEZA    re: 
Blue   and   Gold   plan/Access  for 

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Opening   Statements   by   Governor's  Appointees: 

WILLIAM    HAUCK,   Member,  Trustees   of  the 
California   State   University    53 

HENRY   MENDOZA,   Member,  Trustees  of  the 

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CHAIRMAN    STEINBERG:     The    Senate    Rules   Committee 
will  come  to   order.     I  want  to   apologize   that  we   are 
starting   35   minutes   late.     We   had   a   lengthy   caucus 
dealing  with  the  issues  that  you  could  probably  guess  we 
were  talking   --   we   should   be   talking   about,   so   I 
apologize   for  holding   everybody   up. 

Let's  begin   this  afternoon,   though,   by   calling 
the   roll. 

MS.   BROWN:     S  e  n  a  to  r  C  ed  illo  . 

D  utton  . 

O  ropeza . 

SENATOR    OROPEZA:     Here. 

MS.    BROWN:      Oropeza    here. 

A  a  n  es  ta  d  . 

SENATOR    AANESTAD:      Here. 

MS.   BROWN:     Aanestad   here. 

S  te  in  b  e  rg  . 

CHAIRMAN    STEINBERG:      Here. 

MS.   BROWN:     Steinberg   here. 

CHAIRMAN    STEINBERG:     Let  me   begin   on   a   very   sad 
note.     The   Rules  Committee   was   sorry  to   learn   of  the 
death    of  Tiffany    Rystrom    yesterday       Tiffany    was   the 
chair  of  the    Public    Employment   Relations    Board     and    she 
was  going   to   be   up   for  confirmation   here   over  the  next 

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Alternatives  to   A   to   G   course 

Integration   of  rigorous 

curriculum    with   pathways   56 

Questions   to   Both   Appointees   by 
S  EN  ATOR    OROPEZA    re: 

Title   IX    6  1 

Hiring   of  contract  lobbyists                  69 

Question   to   Both   Appointees  by 
SENATOR    CEDILLO'  re: 

Collaboration   between   community 
colleges,   CSU   and   U.C.   system    73 

Question   to   Mr.   Hauck   by 
SENATOR    AANESTAD    re: 

Length   of  time  to   graduation   from 
CSU    system    77 

Witness   in    Support  of  HENRY    MENDOZA: 
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1  several  months.   And  we  want  to  send  our  condolences  to 

2  Ms.  Rystrom's  family  and  friends,  and  express  the  sorrow 

3  about  the  loss  not  only  to  her  loved  ones  but  to  public 

4  service  of  the  State  of  California  as  well.   Thank  you. 

5  Maybe  we  could  --  I  know  it's  not  tradition, 

6  but  a  moment  of  silence.   Could  we  do  that,  please. 

7  Thank  you. 

8  (Pause.) 

9  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you.    All  right. 

10  Let  us  begin.   I  know  we  have  a  number  of  Members  here, 

11  and  former  Members.   We  will  accommodate  the  Members 

12  here  rather  quickly,  but  we  need  to  dispense  first  with 

13  a  couple  items  of  business. 

14  (Discussion  of  the  record  re  file  items 

15  one  and  two.) 

16  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    All  right.    Now  we  move  to 

17  the  governor's  appointments  appearing  today.    Let  me 

18  just  say  at  the  outset  I'm  very  pleased  to  have  all  of 

19  our  higher-education  appointees  pending  confirmation 

20  with  us  today.   We've  been  spending  a  lot  of  weeks  and 

21  time  on  corrections,  parole,  and  it's,  frankly,  nice  to 

22  talk  about  education. 

23  Not  only  are  the  positions  that  are  up  for 

24  confirmation  today  significant,  but  the  terms  they  fill 

25  are  some  of  the  longest  terms  for  any  appointed 

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2  community  colleges  of  California.    He  is  here  for 

3  reconfirmation. 

4  Gary  Reed  is  eminently  qualified  for  this 

5  position,  having  previously  served  as  a  member  of  the 

6  teacher  credentialing  commission  for  the  State  of 

7  California.   He  is  a  former  high-school  math  teacher, 

8  and  so  intimately  connected  with  young  people  and 

9  education,  has  a  deep  and  abiding  commitment  to  our 

10  young  people.    He's  a  former  Tulare  County  supervisor, 

11  and  so  he's  served  in  local  government.    He's  an 

12  extraordinary  person  in  that  he  is  very  keen  in  his 

13  connection  with  the  way  in  which  people  value  the 

14  resources  of  our  state,  the  minds  of  our  young  people. 

15  And  I  know  that  he  will  do  an  extraordinary  job. 

16  So,  Mr.  President,  I  would  commend  to  you 

17  Gary  Reed  for  reappointment  to  the  board  of  governors. 

18  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Thank  you,  Senator 

19  Ashburn.   We  appreciate  it. 

20  SENATOR  ASHBURN:    Thank  you. 

21  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Senator  Liu. 

22  SENATOR  LIU:   Thank  you,  Mr.  President  and 

23  Members.   It's  my  pleasure  to  introduce  a  constituent  of 

24  mine,  Geoffrey  Baum,  for  confirmation  as  a  member  of  the 

25  California  Community  Colleges  Board  of  Governors. 

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1  positions  in  state  government.   A  member  of  the 

2  Community  College  Board  of  Governors  has  a  six-year 

3  term;  a  CSU  trustee  has  an  eight-year  term;  and  a 

4  U.C.  regent  has,  in  fact,  a  12-year  term.    So  these  are 

5  appointments  that,  in  our  view,  require  some  special 

6  consideration,  because  they  do  in  fact  reach  so  far 

7  into  the  future. 

8  So  we  want  to  have  a  discussion  with  all  of  you 

9  today  about  not  only  your  view  of  your  role,  but  your 

10  view  of  higher  education  in  California,  and  how  we 

11  address  the  economic  realities  of  our  time  at  the  same 

12  time  we  prepare  the  educated  and  trained  workforce  of 

13  the  future. 

14  So  let  us  begin  here.    Now,  I  want  to 

15  accommodate  Senator  Ashburn,  Senator  Liu,  and 

16  Senator  Wyland,  who  I'm  sure  have  other  busy  schedules. 

17  The  order  that  we're  going  to  take  up  is,  first,  the 

18  community  college  trustees;  but  if  any  of  you  are  here 

19  for  anybody  else,  I  will  allow  you  to  come  up  now  and 

20  introduce  your  member,  but  then  we'll  take  up  the  member 

21  in  a  little  bit. 

22  So  Senators. 

23  SENATOR  ASHBURN:    Mr.  President,  Senators,  I'm 

24  very  happy  to  be  here  today  to  introduce  to  you 

25  Gary  Reed,  who  currently  serves  as  a  member  of  the  board 

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1  I  know  you  have  Mr.  Baum's  credentials  before 

2  you  and  numerous  letters  of  support.   I  only  want  to 

3  emphasize,  based  on  my  personal  experience,  what  a 

4  valuable  contribution  I  believe  he  will  make  to  the 

5  board.    He  brings  a  breadth  of  organizational  and 

6  communication  skills,  and  interpersonal  skills  as  well, 

7  and  he  has  had  experience  as  a  past  president  of  the 

8  Pasadena  City  College  Board  of  Trustees.   And  I 

9  certainly  hope  you  give  him  your  kind  consideration. 

10  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Thank  you,  Senator  Liu. 

11  Senator  Wyland. 

12  SENATOR  WYLAND:    Mr.  Chair  and  Members,  I  take 

13  really  great  pleasure  in  introducing  Scott  Himelstein, 

14  also  for  the  board  of  governors  at  the  community 

15  colleges. 

16  I  have  known  Scott  for  several  years,  but  when 

17  I  read  his  C.V.,  there  were  some  things  I  didn't  even 

18  know  about.    He  was  the  founder  of  the  Even  Start 

19  Foundation  in  the  mid  '90s,  executive  director  of 

20  California  Reading  Recovery.    Under  those  two  programs, 

21  they  made  enormous  efforts  in  bringing  books  and 

22  literacy  skills  to  children  who  might  not  have  otherwise 

23  had  them. 

24  He  was  the  president  of  the  Lynch  Foundation 

25  for  Children,  and  in  that  capacity,  when  Superintendent 

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1  Bersin  was  at  the  school  district  in  San  Diego,  he  was 

2  assigned  permanently  to  assist  him  in  that. 

3  He  later  came  to  Sacramento  as  a  deputy 

4  secretary  and  chief  of  staff  when  Alan  Bersin  was  the 

5  secretary  of  education,  and  after  his  departure  became 

6  the  acting  secretary  for  education. 

7  Scott  also  created  --  The  information  for  the 

8  Committee  says  he  directs  the  Center  for  Education, 

9  Policy  and  Law  at  USC.    He  created  this  position,  which 

10  I  think  is  relatively  unique,  at  least  in  south 

11  Los  Angeles,  Southern  California,  which  combines 

12  education,  policy,  and  law,  and  he  teaches  at  that 

13  foundation. 

14  He  also  has  done  a  great  deal  of  work  in  the 

15  community  for  a  long  period  of  time.   That  was 

16  recognized  in  2004  when  he  was  honored  as  community 

17  leader  of  the  year  by  the  local  newspaper,  The  Union 

18  Tribune.    And  one  of  those  things  he's  done,  and  I  know, 

19  Mr.  Chairman,  you  and  I  share  this  interest,  is  a  lot  of 

20  work  on  career  technical  education.    He  is  someone  who 

21  believes  that  this  is  an  important  role  for  the 

22  community  colleges,  and  I  think  is  someone  who  would  not 

23  only  provide  great  direction  as  a  member  of  the 

24  governing  board,  but  also  would  be  very  helpful  in  this 

25  particular  development. 

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1  him  to  humble  another.   He  doesn't  flatter  well,  boast 

2  of  his  own  achievements,  cringe  before  power.   He  speaks 

3  with  frankness  but  always  with  sincerity  and  sympathy; 

4  whose  deed  follows  his  word;  and  he  thinks  of  rights  of 

5  others  rather  than  his  own;  and,  in  my  opinion,  who 

6  appears  well  with  any  company,  a  man  with  whom  honor  is 

7  sacred  and  virtue  is  safe. 

8  This  passage  that  I  just  read  to  you  was 

9  written  by  Mr.  John  Walter  Wayland.    He's  the  founder  of 

10  the  Sigma  Alpha  Epsilon  Fraternity,  and  this  passage  is 

11  called  "A  True  Gentleman." 

12  But  I  believe  that  Henry  embodies  the  character 

13  that's  denoted  in  this  passage.    I  think  he  would  be  an 

14  excellent  addition  to  the  board  of  trustees,  and  it 

15  would  be  my  honor  to  vote  yes  for  him,  should  we  confirm 

16  him  on  the  Senate  floor.   And  I'm  asking  you  to 

17  seriously  consider  Mr.  Mendoza  as  an  appointee,  and  I 

18  ask  for  your  aye  vote. 

19  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Thank  you,  Senator,  for 

20  coming  to  the  Rules  Committee.    It  means  a  lot. 

21  Senator  Harman. 

22  SENATOR  HARMAN:   Thank  you  very  much, 

23  Mr.  Chairman  and  Members  of  the  Committee.   It's  my 

24  honor  to  sort  of  repeat  what  Senator  Calderon  was  just 

25  talking  about,  but  for  a  different  individual. 

8 


1  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Thank  you,  Senator  Wyland. 

2  Appreciate  it. 

3  We  have  Senator  Calderon  here.    Senator,  if  you 

4  want  to  come  up,  we're  taking  all  of  the  introductions. 

5  SENATOR  CALDERON:    Okay.    Great. 

6  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    First  we'll  do  all  the 

7  introductions,  and  then  we'll  break  for  two  weeks  and 

8  come  back. 

9  SENATOR  CALDERON:    Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman  and 

10  Members.    Senator  Calderon.    I'm  here  on  behalf  of 

11  Henry  Mendoza,  who  is  — 

12  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Wave,  please. 

13  SENATOR  CALDERON:    --  who  is  before  you  today 

14  seeking  your  approval  for  Cal  State  University  board  of 

15  trustees.   You  have  before  you,  I'm  sure,  a  list  of  all 

16  of  his  qualifications  and  his  past  endeavors,  so  I'm  not 

17  going  to  address  that  today. 

18  What  I  would  like  to  address  today  is  Henry's 

19  character,  what  I  know  about  him.    Henry  is  a  man  whose 

20  conduct  proceeds  from  goodwill  and  an  acute  sense  of 

21  propriety;  his  self-control  is  equal  to  all  emergency; 

22  who  does  not  make  the  poor  man  conscious  of  his  poverty, 

23  the  obscure  man,  his  obscurity,  or  any  man  of  his 

24  inferiority  or  deformity. 

25  Henry  is,  himself,  humble,  if  necessity  compels 

7 


1  I'd  like  to  talk  to  you  about  Hadi  Makarechian. 

2  Mr.  Makarechian  is  before  you  today  for  consideration  to 

3  appointment  to  the  Board  of  Regents  of  The  University  of 

4  California. 

5  I  first  met  Mr.  Makarechian  about  12  years  ago 

6  when  I  was  a  member  of  the  Huntington  Beach  City 

7  Council.    His  company,  which  he  is  the  chairman  and 

8  founder  of,  was  doing  a  major  project  in  our  city.    I 

9  had  many  conversations  and  meetings  with  him  concerning 

10  that  project,  and  with  his  son,  Paul  Makarechian,  who 

11  was  assisting  him  at  that  time.   And  I  can  tell  you  that 

12  my  dealings  with  Mr.  Makarechian  were  very,  very 

13  favorable.    I  found  him  to  be  an  honest  and  ethical  and 

14  concerned  person. 

15  He  has  gone  on  and  done  a  number  of  other 

16  development  projects  around  the  state  and  around  the 

17  country.    He  is  the  founder  and  chairman  of  Maker 

18  Properties  in  Newport  Beach.    He  is,  of  course,  a 

19  constituent  of  mine,  living  in  my  35th  Senate  District. 

20  He's  active  in  a  number  of  charitable  affairs  and  has  an 

21  excellent,  excellent  reputation  in  the  county. 

22  And  I  am  here  today  to  tell  you  that  I 

23  wholeheartedly  support  him  in  his  quest  to  become 

24  appointed  to  the  --  to  become  a  member  of  the 

25  U.C.  Regents,  and  I  would  ask,  when  you  do  consider  him, 

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1 

for  your  aye  vote  on  his  application. 

1 

I've  witnessed  their  skills  in  terms  of  working  with  the 

2 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you  very  much, 

2 

board  of  governors,  asking  excellent  questions,  doing 

3 

Senator  Harman. 

3 

their  homework. 

4 

SENATOR  HARMAN:    Thank  you  very  much, 

4 

So  I  think  we  really  have  a  team  of  four 

5 

Mr.  Chairman. 

5 

outstanding  individuals  to  be  in  the  Community  Colleges 

6 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Any  other  Senators 

6 

Board  of  Governors,  and  it's  my  pleasure  to  serve  as  the 

7 

upstairs? 

7 

chancellor. 

8 

Let's  begin.    We're  going  to  begin  with  the 

8 

I  guess  I'll  close  by  saying:    Obviously,  I 

9 

Community  Colleges  Board  of  Governors,  and  I'm  going  to 

9 

consider  them  people  of  unusual  wisdom  and  judgment, 

10 

ask  as  a  group  for  Geoffrey  Baum,  Scott  Himelstein, 

10 

because  they  selected  me. 

11 

Lance  Izumi,  and  Gary  Reed  to  please  come  forward. 

11 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Thank  you,  my  old  seat 

12 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Senator  Scott,  I'm  sorry. 

12 

mate,  Senator  Scott. 

13 

Senator  Scott,  of  course.    Come  on  up.    I'm  sorry. 

13 

Let's  have  the  gentlemen  come  up. 

14 

SENATOR  SCOTT:    That's  all  right. 

14 

Welcome  to  all  of  you. 

15 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    I  thought  you  were  --  I 

15 

MR.  HIMELSTEIN:    Thank  you. 

16 

didn't  know  you  wanted  to  come  up  and  speak. 

16 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Rules  Committee  tradition 

17 

SENATOR  SCOTT:    Well,  you  know,  I'm  an 

17 

to  allow  any  of  the  nominees  to  introduce  a  family 

18 

ex-politician.   You  give  me  the  microphone,  I'm  going  to 

18 

member  or  close  friend  who  may  be  in  the  audience  with 

19 

speak. 

19 

you  today. 

20 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    This  is  true. 

20 

MR.  BAUM:    I  just  have  one  introduction  I  would 

21 

SENATOR  SCOTT:    I  want  to,  number  one,  to 

21 

like  to  make.    I  brought  a  student  of  mine  at  USC  who's 

22 

second  the  nomination  of  those  who  have  already  been 

22 

an  intern  this  semester,  this  summer.    His  name  is 

23 

presented  to  you,  because  they've  all  served  since  I've 

23 

Phil  Shaven.    He's  a  community  college  transfer  student 

24 

been  the  chancellor  beginning  January  1st,  Scott 

24 

from  El  Camino  College  and  now  a  student  at  USC  at  the 

25 

Himelstein  and  Gary  Reed,  that  have  already  been 

25 

Annenberg  School,  where  I  work,  and  he  was  interested 

10 

12 

1 

introduced  to  you,  and  Geoffrey  Baum;  but  I  wanted  to 

1 

about  the  process. 

2 

say  a  word  about  Lance  Izumi.    It's  been  my  pleasure  -- 

2 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Welcome  to  you. 

3 

I  want  to  talk  about  Lance  as  somebody  who's  already 

3 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    A  constituent  of  the  great 

4 

been  on  the  job.   This  is  a  reappointment. 

4 

28th  district. 

5 

The  members  of  the  board  of  governors  felt  so 

5 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Welcome. 

6 

strongly  about  Lance  Izumi  that  they  elected  him  as 

6 

MR.  IZUMI:    I'd  like  to  introduce  my  much,  much 

7 

their  president,  and  I  can  tell  you  that  I've  witnessed 

7 

better  half,  my  wife,  April,  who  is  in  the  audience. 

8 

his  skills  when  he  presides  over  the  board  of  governors. 

8 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Welcome.   Welcome  to  you. 

9 

He  is  unfailingly  polite  to  anyone  who  wants  to  speak; 

9 

Very  good.   All  right.    Let's  begin.   I'll  ask 

10 

he  handles  any  controversies  --  although,  fortunately, 

10 

each  of  you  to  make  a  very  brief  opening  statement. 

11 

we  have  very  few  --  extremely  well;  he  is  a  skilled 

11 

We're  interested  in,  you  know,  what's  at  the  core  here, 

12 

presider.   And  so,  as  a  result,  all  of  us  wanted  to  see 

12 

why  you  are  interested  in  serving  and  what  you  want  to 

13 

him  seek  reappointment,  and  he  thought  about  it  and 

13 

accomplish  during  your  tenure  as  a  trustee. 

14 

decided  that  he  would. 

14 

Go  from  — 

15 

So  I'm  very  pleased  to  simply  introduce  to  you 

15 

MR.  REED:   This  side? 

16 

Lance  Izumi,  the  present  president  of  the  board  of 

16 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Yes.    Introduce  yourself 

17 

trustees  --  I  said  board  of  trustees  --  board  of 

17 

again,  please. 

18 

governors,  and  who  I  think  deserves  reappointment  not 

18 

MR.  REED:    Gary  Reed. 

19 

only  because  of  his  past  but  because  of  his  present 

19 

A  number  of  years  ago  when  I  first  graduated 

20 

contribution. 

20 

from  high  school,  my  father  encouraged  me  strongly  to  go 

21 

And,  of  course,  I've  also  witnessed  and  support 

21 

attend  a  community  college,  and  I  was  somewhat  reluctant 

22 

the  reappointment  of  Gary  Reed,  who  serves  extremely 

22 

to  do  so.    But  from  there  I  went  on  to  the  university 

>3 

well  on  the  board  of  governors,  and  our  two  newest 

23 

and  graduated  with  a  master's  degree  and  learned  the 

>4 

members,  which  are  Scott  Himelstein  and  Geoffrey  Baum, 

24 

value  of  education. 

♦5 

both  of  whom  have  already  started  their  service,  and 

25 

So  when  I  came  back  to  a  real  small  rural 

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community  where  I  live,  Porterville,  California,  in  the 

San  Joaquin  Valley,  I  had  been  working  with  the 

community  college  for  the  better  part  of  the  last 

20  years.   And  having  said  that,  it  just  demonstrated  to 

me  over  the  years  about  the  value  of  education, 

especially  for  rural  citizens,  is  so  important.   And 

I've  been  fortunate  to  have  served  the  last  three  years 

on  the  board  of  governors  and  shared  my  views  as  a  board 

member  coming  from  a  rural  area,  and  also  my  views  as  a 

small  business  owner. 

Sometimes  on  these  boards  I  find  that  the  views 
that  I  have  from  my  experience  are  somewhat  different 
from  my  colleagues,  and  I  think  I've  added  value  by 
being  able  to  be  in  that  position  to  do  so.   Thank  you. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you. 

Mr.  Izumi. 

MR.  IZUMI:   Thank  you  very  much,  Mr.  Chairman 
and  Senators.    My  name  is  Lance  Izumi,  and  as  Chancellor 
Scott  mentioned,  I'm  the  current  president  of  the  board 
of  governors. 

My  interest  in  community  colleges  really  stems 
back  from  --  along  the  lines  of  Member  Reed.   And  I 
attended  community  college,  actually,  during  the  summer 
before  I  went  to  university  at  UCLA,  and  actually  I  took 
the  most  important  course  I  think  I  ever  took,  which  is 

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1  had  the  great  pleasure  of  working  with  many  of  you  and 

2  your  colleagues  while  I  was  here  in  Sacramento  on 

3  community  college  issues,  and  in  particular  with  Senator 

4  Scott,  on  what  I  viewed  as  the  two  most  important  pieces 

5  of  legislation  over  the  past  few  years  for  community 

6  colleges:    SB  70,  which  greatly  expanded  career 

7  technical  education,  it  improved  our  capacity,  quality 

8  of  career  technical  education  in  the  community  college; 

9  as  well  as  Senate  Bill  361,  which  went  a  long  way 

10  towards  equalizing  funding  for  community  colleges  in  our 

11  state. 

12  I  would  say  for  me,  my  particular  interest  is 

13  in  the  area  of  career  and  technical  education.   I  think 

14  that's  what,  quite  frankly,  community  colleges  do  best, 

15  having  seen  it  up  close.    I  think  we  have  a  tremendous 

16  opportunity  right  now  to  improve  those  systems.   We  have 

17  opportunities  to  engage  our  business  and  industry 

18  partners  better.   And  also  something  I  think  we're 

19  making  a  lot  of  progress  on  is  our  partnership  with  our 

20  K-12  assistants  who  are  better  articulating  our  class 

21  work,  providing  students  better  opportunities  to  gain 

22  community  college  credit. 

23  So  my  focus  is  in  and  around  that  area,  and  I 

24  very  much  look  forward  to  it. 

25  MR.  BAUM:    Hello,  Senators.    I  was  a  little 

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a  typing  course  at  El  Camino  College,  and  if  it  weren't 
for  that  course,  I  don't  think  I  would  have  ever 
graduated. 

But  ever  since  that  time,  I've  been  able  to  see 
the  importance  the  community  college  fills  in  the  lives 
of  all  kinds  of  different  people,  from  people  like 
myself,  as  a  student  going  into  a  four-year  institution, 
and  also  students  who  are  going  to  community  college  for 
transfer,  but  also,  too,  a  great  number  of  people  who  go 
back  to  community  colleges  for  job  retraining,  career 
technical  education,  and  lots  of  other  different 
reasons. 

So  given  that  the  community  college  has  such  an 
interesting  and  wide  mission,  and  such  great  importance 
to  so  many  people  in  the  community,  and  with  colleges 
being  so  entrenched  in  so  many  different  places,  I  think 
that  I've  wanted  to  contribute  by  bringing  my  background 
in  education,  which  I've  been  in  research,  education 
researcher,  for  many  years.   It's  been  mostly  in  the 
K-12  area,  but  I've  been  able  to  bring  that  and  interest 
in  improving  education  at  the  higher-education  level.    I 
think  it's  been  a  good  fit,  and  I  really  enjoy  my  work, 
and,  also,  working  with  the  great  people  who  staff  the 
community  college  chancellor's  office. 

MR.  HIMELSTEIN:    Mr.  Chairman  and  Members,  I 

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1  nervous,  so  I  prepared  a  statement.   Yesterday,  I  was 

2  preparing  and  I  spent  --  With  due  respect  to  Senator 

3  Aanestad,  I  was  in  the  dentist's  chair  yesterday  getting 

4  a  root  canal. 

5  SENATOR  AANESTAD:    Is  this  easier  or  harder? 

6  MR.  BAUM:    So  far,  easier,  so  I  appreciate 

7  that. 

8  Thank  you  for  giving  me  the  opportunity  to 

9  appear  as  the  Rules  Committee  considers  my  appointment. 

10  It's  a  tremendous  honor  to  work  on  behalf  of  students 

11  and  communities  throughout  California  as  a  member  of  the 

12  Community  Colleges  Board  of  Governors  and  Pasadena  City 

13  College,  where  I  have  served  as  an  elected  trustee  since 

14  2001. 

15  I  want  to  share  a  little  bit  of  my  background. 

16  My  father's  an  immigrant.    He  came  to  this  country 

17  without  speaking  English.    He  grew  up  sleeping  on  a  sofa 

18  in  a  one-bedroom  apartment  in  a  working  class 

19  neighborhood  in  Brooklyn,  where  his  father  worked  in  a 

20  restaurant.    Fortunately,  my  dad  found  a  technical 

21  college,  Brooklyn  College  of  Pharmacy,  and  learned  a 

22  profession  that  enabled  him  to  support  our  family. 

23  My  mother  grew  up  in  the  Midwest.    She  was 

24  married  and  divorced  at  20.    She  married  again, 

25  divorced,  and  was  a  single  mom  with  two  sons  at  28.    She 

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married  my  dad  a  year  later  and  had  two  more  kids. 
Thank  goodness  they're  still  together.  The  marriage 
worked  out. 

She  loved  books  and  learning,  but  her  life 
situation  did  not  enable  her  to  go  to  college  until  the 
family  moved  to  Southern  California  in  the  early  1960s. 
In  Orange  County,  she  found  the  local  community  college, 
Golden  West  College.   When  she  had  access,  there  was  no 
stopping  her.    She  enrolled  in  classes  and  pursued  her 
educational  dreams. 

With  an  earnest  desire  to  serve  and  gratitude 
for  the  opportunity  they  had  been  given,  my  parents  both 
got  involved  in  politics.    My  dad  was  elected  mayor  of 
our  hometown,  and  years  later  my  mom  was  elected  to  the 
Coast  Community  College  District  Board  of  Trustees. 

That's  the  environment  in  which  I  was  raised, 
and  I've  devoted  my  professional  career  in  community 
service  to  higher  education.   As  I  mentioned,  since 
2001,  I  have  served  as  an  elected  governing  board  member 
of  the  Pasadena  area  community  college  district.    I've 
been  a  board  officer  and  served  a  term  as  president. 
PCC  is  widely  regarded  among  the  state's  very  best 
community  colleges.    It  ranks  at  or  near  the  top  in 
virtually  every  category,  including  transfer  to 
four-year  colleges,  awarding  of  associate's  degrees  and 

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1  failure  --  and  business  failure,  the  demand  for 

2  education  and  training  has  never  been  greater.   Working 

3  closely  with  my  colleagues  on  the  board  of  governors,  I 

4  support  the  role  of  community  colleges  as  the  state's 

5  economic  recovery  centers.   As  with  any  disaster, 

6  Californians  must  have  access  to  resources  and  support 

7  in  order  to  recover  from  this  current  crisis  and  get  the 

8  economy  moving  again. 

9  One  paradox  is  that  we  know  where  the  jobs  are, 

10  and  we  have  outstanding  students  eager  to  get  the 

11  training  and  skills  for  new  careers,  but  there's  a 

12  shortage  of  access.   We  will  continue  to  serve  as  many 

13  students  as  we  can  with  the  resources  we  have  and  hope 

14  we  can  find  ways  to  serve  the  avalanche  of  newly 

15  displaced  workers  who  need  help. 

16  Through  my  service  on  the  board  of  governors,  I 

17  hope  to  be  an  effective  advocate  for  the  community 

18  college  system,  maintain  and  strengthen  the  system  of 

19  accountability  that  builds  public  trust,  and  work 

20  effectively  with  all  of  our  partners  in  the  system, 

21  faculty,  staff,  administrators,  students,  and,  of 

22  course,  the  governor  and  the  legislature,  to  expand 

23  access  to  affordable,  high-quality  instruction, 

24  especially  during  this  time  of  economic  crisis. 

25  At  our  Pasadena  City  College  board  meeting  last 

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career  and  technical  education  certificates  award. 

In  addition,  I'm  a  member  of  the  leadership 
team  at  the  University  of  Southern  California.    For 
eight  years,  I  was  assistant  dean  of  USC's  Annenberg 
School  for  Communication  and  now  serve  as  managing 
director  at  USC's  Center  on  Communication,  Leadership 
and  Policy. 

I've  seen  firsthand  the  power  of  education  to 
transform  lives.   I  see  it  every  day  on  the  campus  of 
Pasadena  City  College  and  at  community  colleges  across 
the  state. 

With  three  million  students,  ours  is  the 
largest  system  of  higher  education  in  the  world.   The 
board  of  governors  sets  policy  and  provides  guidance  for 
the  72  districts  and  the  110  colleges  which  constitute 
the  system.   We  establish  accountability  standards, 
monitor  performance,  and  are  the  entity  that  formally 
interacts  with  state  and  federal  officials.    We  also 
select  the  chief  executive  for  the  system.   The  new 
state  chancellor,  as  you  know,  is  former  PCC  president 
and  California  State  Senator  Jack  Scott,  and  I'm  doing 
everything  I  can  to  support  his  work  guiding  the 
system. 

My  focus  has  been  on  the  economy.    With  record 
levels  of  unemployment,  home  foreclosure,  business 

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1  Wednesday,  more  than  100  students  showed  up  to  express 

2  their  concern  about  the  very  difficult  decisions  that 

3  lie  ahead.   They're  scared.   And  I  told  them  I  would 

4  remember  their  faces,  their  words,  their  anxieties,  and 

5  their  passion  for  learning.   I  promised  I  would  not 

6  forget  them  when  I  met  you  today.   So  on  behalf  of  these 

7  students  and  others  across  the  state,  thank  you  for  your 

8  deep  concern  and  steadfast  support  for  our  community 

9  college  students  and  the  state's  community  college 

10  system. 

11  I'm  deeply  grateful  to  you  and  Governor 

12  Schwarzenegger  for  this  opportunity.    I  look  forward  to 

13  working  with  you  in  the  months  and  years  ahead. 

14  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you,  Mr.  Baum. 

15  Thank  you  to  all  of  you. 

16  Let's  open  it  up  for  some  questions.    I  would 

17  just  begin  with  maybe  sort  of  an  overriding  question. 

18  We  have  little  money  in  all  of  our  systems.   K-12  is 

19  taking  a  big  hit.   Our  community  colleges  propose  to 

20  take  a  significant  hit,  as  is  the  CSU  and  U.C.  systems. 

21  I'm  specifically  interested  in  Senator  Scott's 

22  SB  70  -  Is  that  the  right  number,  SB  70? 

23  MR.  BAUM:    Um-hmm. 

24  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    -  and  how  you  think  we 

25  can  enhance  the  relationship  between  the  K-12  system  and 

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the  community  college  system,  especially  around  this 
growing  enthusiasm  about  career  pathways  and  multiple 
pathways. 

I'd  like  to  hear  your  thoughts  on  that  and  how 
we  build  on  it  and  how  we  maximize  resources  to  help 
address  the  dropout  rate,  and  how  we  educate  and  train 
people  for  a  high-wage  economy. 

MR.  IZUMI:    I  would  just  open  up,  and  I'll  turn 
it  over  to  my  colleagues  too. 

I  think  that  the  collaboration  and  cooperation 
between  K-12  and  community  colleges,  at  least  from  the 
time  I've  been  on  the  board,  has  been  really  hammered 
home  to  us.    We  can't  just  complain  about  being  on  the 
receiving  end  of  people  who  need  basic  skills  work,  but 
we  do  have  to  certainly  address  that  problem.    Unless  we 
do  things  in  a  proactive  sort  of  way  to  tackle  that, 
help  our  friends  and  cooperate  with  our  friends  in  K-12, 
then  we're  certainly  missing  an  opportunity. 

I  think  one  of  the  things  that  I've  seen  over 
the  time  I've  been  on  the  board  has  been  this  increased 
cooperation  between  the  two  segments.    For  example, 
right  now  we  have  programs  where  community  college 
instructors  are  collaborating  with  their  colleagues  at 
the  K-12  level  to  align  curriculum  standards  and 
assessment  and  expectations  in  order  so  that  the 

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1  very  relevant  to  kids  where  in  their  junior  —  sophomore 

2  and  junior  years,  they  can  actually  see  down  the  road  to 

3  community  college,  higher  education,  and  into  — 

4  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    What  is  the  progress  of 

5  that  development? 

6  MR.  HIMELSTEIN:    I  think  there's  some  very  good 

7  examples  around  the  state.    I  would  admit  I  think  there 

8  needs  to  be  more  -- 1  can  speak  to  my  area  in  San  Diego. 

9  We  have  some  very  good  examples  in  San  Diego  City 

10  College  and  San  Diego  city  schools.    I  believe  we  could 

11  do  more  of  it.    I  also  believe  we  can  further  engage 

12  business  and  industry  and  involve  them  in  the  design  of 

13  the  curriculum  in  providing  internships  for  students  and 

14  externships  for  teachers,  and  I  think  the  board  can  take 

15  a  leadership  role  on  that. 

16  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you. 

17  MR.  REED:    One  particular  area  that  I  have  a 

18  concern  about  in  the  career  tech  area  is  these  programs 

19  are  very,  very  expensive,  and  we  have  to  make  sure 

20  there's  a  cost  analysis  of  our  return  on  our  investment. 

21  And  if  we  cut  back  in  these  programs  during  these 

22  difficult  times,  they  may  become  very  difficult  to 

23  reestablish  down  the  road. 

24  Secondarily,  I  think  one  of  the  things  we 

25  really  need  to  focus  on,  because  there's  so  much  talk 

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students  at  the  K-12  level  know  what  they  could  expect 
and  then  work  to  that. 

Certainly,  that  is  also  the  case,  specifically 
in  career  technical  education,  where  we're  trying  to 
embed  math  and  English  standards  in  career  technical 
education  so  that  the  students  can  both  receive  that 
type  of  education,  but  also  receive  the  education  that's 
according  to  the  K-12  standards  as  well. 

So  I  think  that  by  doing  that  and  preparing 
K-12  students  that  way,  you  can  have  them  —  encourage 
them  to  stay  in  school  and  prevent  dropouts,  because 
when  they  start  hitting  roadblocks,  such  as  they  find 
out  that  they  need  a  lot  of  basic  skills,  at  the  end  of 
the  day  it  certainly  encourages  them  to  drop  out.    I 
think  the  people  in  higher  education  like  us  are  trying 
to  do  preventive  maintenance  to  make  sure  that  doesn't 
happen. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you.    Briefly. 

MR.  HIMELSTEIN:    Senator,  I  think  there  are  two 
things.    Senate  Bill  70  has  gone  a  long  way,  but  I  think 
there's  two  areas  that  we  can  improve  in,  especially 
vis-a-vis  the  dropout  issue. 

I  think  community  college  instructors  can 
better  work  with  our  K-12  partners  on  creating 
project-base  learning  curriculum,  a  curriculum  that  is 

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1  today  about  the  greening  and  about  jobs  related  to  that 

2  area,  with  the  federal  moneys  that  might  be  coming  down 

3  the  road  towards  job  training,  we  have  to  make  sure 

4  these  are  sustainable  jobs,  that  we're  not  simply 

5  employing  people  for  four  to  six  to  eight  months  and 

6  then  terminating  their  employment.    I  think  we  have  to 

7  tie  all  of  that  together.    It  cannot  be  just  a 

8  short-term  gain  for  a  long-term  loss. 

9  And  going  back  to  the  relevancy  issue,  we 

10  addressed  that  in  our  strategic  plan  where  we  are 

11  working  with  K-12  and  doing  what  Scott  just  mentioned  in 

12  terms  of  trying  to  prove  and  show  students  the  relevance 

13  of  the  class  work  that  they're  taking.   Those  courses 

14  have  to  be  relevant  in  today's  society  so  that  they  can 

15  see  the  potential  of  what  they  can  realize  at  the  end  of 

16  their  tenure  in  community  college. 

17  MR.  BAUM:    I'll  make  it  very  quickly. 

18  Two  points:    Our  chancellor  is  the  author  of  SB 

19  70,  which  was  actually  signed  at  Pasadena  City  College. 

20  I  don't  think  there's  going  to  be  any  lack  of  focus  on 

21  the  system  level  for  seeing  that  that  is  implemented  and 

22  expanding  that  commitment  to  career  and  technical 

23  education. 

24  Also,  we  need  to  encourage  the  districts  at  the 

25  local  level.    Where  I  am,  at  Pasadena  City  College,  we 

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said  with  our  K-12  districts,  business  as  usual  wasn't 
working  and  that  we're  working  to  integrate  more  of  our 
programs  with  the  Pasadena  Unified  School  District  and 
meeting  together  as  both  the  school  board  and  the  local 
community  college  board  to  make  sure  that  we  have  smooth 
transitions  and  sharing  resources  and  working  on  behalf 
of  the  students  at  the  earliest  levels  so  that  we  can 
arrest  some  of  these  problems  early  on. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you. 

Do  we  have  questions  from  Members? 

SENATOR  AANESTAD:    I  do. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Senator  Aanestad,  why 
don't  you  go  first,  and  then  we'll  get  to 
Senator  Oropeza. 

SENATOR  AANESTAD:    Thank  you  for  meeting  with 
me  this  morning. 

The  question  I  have  really  concerns  the  budget 
and  what's  happening  in  California.   We've  just  enacted 
the  largest  tax  increase  in  the  state  of  California  in 
February.    Everybody  is  being  hit. 

When  I  went  to  community  college,  I  told  you,  a 
million  years  ago,  it  was  free.   Today  we  do  charge  a 
fee,  but  it's  really  about  the  lowest  in  the  nation. 
California  ranks  number  49  or  50  as  far  as  per-unit  fee 
for  community  colleges.   Is  that  really  fair  to  the 

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1  That  means  you  could  actually  double  the  fee  to  $40  a 

2  unit  and  still  be  in  the  average  cost,  and  there  would 

3  still  be  25  states  that  would  be  more  expensive.   That 

4  would  significantly  improve  the  community  college  effort 

5  and  yet  not  put  the  burden  on  the  taxpayer. 

6  Can  you  react  to  that  too? 

7  MR.  IZUMI:    I  think,  Senator,  I  understand, 

8  having  been  a  researcher  working  with  those  types  of 

9  numbers,  what  you're  saying. 

10  I  think  the  board,  in  its  time  since  I've  been 

11  on  the  board  --  the  policy  has  been  not  so  much  to  look 

12  at  a  particular  percentage  or  average,  but  to  see  that 

13  if  there  are  increases,  that  those  increases  be  moderate 

14  and  predictable,  wherever  we're  going  to  go  to,  because, 

15  as  you  said,  we  have  the  consideration,  certainly  of  the 

16  taxpayer  that  we  have  to  consider,  because  they're 

17  subsidizing  these  fees. 

18  Also,  too,  the  students  who  do  have  to  pay  that 

19  should  be  able  to  look  at  those  fees  and  be  able  to  plan 

20  their  financial  future  so  that  they  know  how  much  to 

21  expect  in  terms  of  increased  fees  that  are  coming  along 

22  the  pike. 

23  So  I  think  it's  a  bit  of  a  balance  between  if 

24  there  are  increases,  that  whatever  they  are,  the  road  to 

25  them  should  be  moderate  and  predictable  so  the  students 

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taxpayer,  or  should  those  fees  be  significantly  raised? 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Easy  question. 

MR.  HIMELSTEIN:   Yeah.   Senator,  I  certainly 
agree  and  know  firsthand  that  the  fees  are  the  lowest  in 
the  nation,  but  I  think  it  is  true  that  community 
colleges  were  established  to  be  affordable  and  very, 
very  accessible  by  the  public. 

I  think  our  policy  at  the  board  level  has  been 
very,  very,  you  know,  consistent,  that  the  fees  ought  to 
be  reviewed  from  time  to  time,  but  always  keeping  in 
mind  how  accessible  higher  --  public  higher  education 
should  be  to  students. 

Having  said  that,  in  these  times,  I  think  as  a 
group  we  need  to  be  open  to  variations.   And  I  think,  as 
Senator  Scott  has  said,  as  long  as  those  increases  are 
modest,  not  all  at  one  time,  so  to  speak,  maybe  a 
phased-in  approach,  and  that  the  fees  actually  go  back 
into  the  system  for  the  benefit  of  the  student,  all 
dollars  in  education,  I  think  lots  of  things  have  to  be 
on  the  table,  including  fees. 

SENATOR  AANESTAD:    Just  to  go  a  little  further, 
the  fees  that  the  student  pays  in  the  community  college 
system  really  amount  to  only  about  5  percent  of  the 
total  cost  of  their  education.   Why  shouldn't  California 
be  looking  to  be  number  25  in  the  nation  as  far  as  fees? 

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1  can  best  be  able  to  handle  them. 

2  SENATOR  AANESTAD:    Just  to  press  it  a  little 

3  further,  the  fact  of  the  matter  is  the  community  college 

4  system  really  is  redoing  the  work,  I  believe,  of  the 

5  K  through  12  system,  especially  the  11  and  12  system, 

6  with  all  the  remedial  programs  that  you  need.   The 

7  product  that  you're  getting  in  the  door  probably  isn't 

8  up  to  the  standard  it  was  30  years  ago  when  I  went  — 

9  35  years  ago  when  I  went  to  community  college  --  my 

10  goodness,  40  years  ago. 

11  The  fact  of  the  matter  is  we're  spending 

12  millions,  if  not  hundreds  of  millions  of  dollars,  on 

13  remediation.   When  the  legislature  is  looking  for  money 

14  and  education  moneys,  in  my  opinion,  it's  not  being  well 

15  spent  in  the  K  through  12  arena.   They're  not  doing 

16  their  job.   The  community  college  system  is  doing  a 

17  better  job. 

18  Do  you  think  that  the  legislature  should  be 

19  looking  at  K  through  12  moneys  to  go  to  14  and  15 

20  moneys? 

21  I  know  that  that's  a  politically  charged 

22  question,  but  the  reality  is:   There's  a  finite  number 

23  of  dollars  available  for  the  educational  system  in  this 

24  state,  and  I  think  it's  the  duty  of  the  legislature  to 

25  spend  those  dollars  where  it's  most  effective,  and, 

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certainly,  it  looks  like  you  folks  are  doing  a  better 
job  than  K  through  12.    Why  shouldn't  we  be  looking  at 
that  funding,  that  source  of  funding,  for  you  folks? 
Anybody  want  to  touch  that? 

Senator  Scott? 

MR.  IZUMI:    Well,  what  I  would  say,  Senator, 
and  certainly  I  understand  --  Doing  a  lot  of  K-12 
research  myself,  I  understand  your  comments  about  the 
K-12  system.    I  would  simply  say  that  we  realize  —  and 
I  think,  some  of  the  comments  that  were  made  in  our 
introduction  ~  and  we  want  to  translate  our  ability,  I 
think  at  the  community  college  level,  to  address  the 
basic-skills  issue,  which  is  very  large  for  our  system. 
We  have  about  --  Depending  on  how  you  count,  70  percent 
or  more  of  incoming  students  to  our  system  need  basic 
skills  education. 

We  have  at  the  state  level,  through  the  board 
of  governors  and  the  chancellor's  office,  initiated  the 
basic  skills  initiative,  which  has  laid  out  best 
practices  for  our  colleges  in  order  to  address  this 
problem.    But  as  we've  mentioned,  too,  we're  trying  to 
get  this  information  and  this  working  relationship  with 
our  K-12  partners  so  --  to  prevent  that  huge  influx  of 
students  with  basic  skills  coming  into  the  system.    And 
an  ounce  of  prevention  would  be  better  than  a  pound  of 

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1  11  percent  —  I  differ  a  little  with  Dr.  Aanestad,  by 

2  the  way,  on  some  of  his  conclusions  about  fee  levels.   I 

3  think  when  you  have  an  unemployment  rate  of  11  percent, 

4  it's  not  the  time  to  be  raising  fees.   It's  the  time  to 

5  bring  more  people  to  the  community  college  to  educate  or 

6  reeducate  them.   And  also  the  fact  that  we've  got  lots 

7  of  veterans  coming  back  from  the  war  needing  education, 

8  having,  perhaps,  gone  right  from  high  school  into  the 

9  service. 

10  What  do  you  think  the  role  of  the  community 

11  college  should  be,  and  what  is  —  what  are  you  as  a 

12  board  member  doing  to  make  that  happen? 

13  MR.  REED:   Well,  I  think  we've  already 

14  established  among  our  own  board  members,  that  we  feel 

15  that  as  the  center  for  this  economic  recovery,  that 

16  we'll  be  the  agency  that  can  provide  the  training  to  get 

17  these  young  people  and  these  adults  back  in  the 

18  workforce  and  being  productive  contributors  to  society. 

19  We  think  we're  the  agency  that  can  do  that. 

20  We're  already  working  on  the  veterans  issue 

21  that  you  just  spoke  to.   We  formed  a  committee.   We  have 

22  an  alliance  of  —  I  forgot  the  term,  but  troops  to 

23  college,  and  we  see  ourselves  playing  a  major  role  in 

24  that  area. 

25  As  students  —  Because  of  tuition  costs  and  the 

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1  cure,  so  I  think  that's  the  way  we've  tried  to  address 

2  this  issue  that  you're  bringing  up,  and  that's  how  -- 

3  SENATOR  AANESTAD:    Is  it  working? 

4  MR.  IZUMI:    Yes,  I  think  it  is.    Right  now,  in 

5  fact,  for  example,  if  you  took  just  one  program  that  I'm 

6  well  aware  of,  the  CalPASS  system,  which  is  the 

7  California  Partnership  for  Achievement  and  Student 

8  Success,  they  have  got  now  66  professional  learning 

9  counselors  with  1200  or  so  instructors  from  K-12, 
community  college,  and  other  higher-education 
institutions  getting  together  to  align  curriculum  and 
prevent  the  need  for  basic  skills,  and  they're  using 
data  in  order  to  measure  the  outcome. 

So  I  think  that,  you  know,  that  holds  — 
programs  like  that  hold  a  lot  of  promise  to  prevent  the 
need  for  basic  skills  instruction  in  higher  education  to 
the  extent  that  we  have  it  now. 

SENATOR  AANESTAD:    Thank  you.    Senator  Oropeza. 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Thank  you. 

A  quick  question  —  I  don't  know  if  it's  quick, 
but  a  question  about  the  current  circumstance  — 
economic  circumstance  and  --  that  we're  in  and  what  role 
community  college  will  play  or  is  playing  in  that.    Some 
of  you  have  spoken  a  little  bit  about  that. 

Let  me  say  that  when  we're  looking  at  an 

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1  like,  when  I  came  to  this  board  just  three  years  ago,  we 

2  were  looking  at  declining  enrollment.    But  since  the 

3  downturn  in  the  economy,  we've  actually  been 

4  experiencing  a  tremendous  growth  in  our  community 

5  colleges,  because  our  students  are  looking  for  job 

6  skills  so  they  can  reenter  the  workforce. 

7  SENATOR  OROPEZA:    And  what  are  the  kinds  of 

8  things  you  think  this  committee  will  accomplish,  or  what 

9  is  the  goal  of  the  committee  that  you  have  formed? 

10  MR.  REED:    Well,  Lance,  you're  actually  on  the 

11  committee,  so  I'll  let  you  address  that. 

12  MR.  IZUMI:   Actually,  I  just  appointed  the 

13  chairman,  a  member,  Bobby  MacDonald,  who  is  very 

14  interested  in  veterans  issues.    I  think  that  what  our 

15  committee  plans  to  do  is  to  work  with  our  student 

16  services  department  unit  in  order  to  ensure,  as  you 

17  mentioned,  that  the  services  available  for  returning 

18  veterans  are  addressed. 

19  Member  MacDonald  and  myself  actually  serve  on 

20  one  of  the  armed  services  advisory  boards  here  in 

21  California,  and  so  we  are  very  well  aware  of  the  needs 

22  of  members  of  our  armed  forces  and  those  returning.    In 

23  fact,  we  just  had  a  few  months  ago,  at  one  of  our 

24  regular  board  meetings,  a  presentation  by  returning  vets 

25  about  their  needs  and  what  they  would  like  to  see 

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available  at  the  community  colleges,  which  is,  again, 
one  of  the  reasons  why  we  formed  this  committee,  to  make 
sure  those  needs  are  addressed  not  just  from  the 
chancellor's  office,  but  from  the  board. 

So  I  think  we're  certainly  fully  cognizant  of 
the  importance  of  addressing  this  new  group  of  community 
college  students. 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Right.   Let  me  ask  one  more 
question,  Mr.  Chair,  and  it  has  to  do  with  how  people 
find  out  about  or  how  people  decide  or  figure  out  which 
community  college  they  should  go  to. 

My  experience  and  my  personal  anecdotal 
knowledge  --  I  have  a  goddaughter  who's  in  the  community 
college  system  and  has  been  for  a  couple  of  years  —  is 
that  there  really  is  —  well,  there  has  been  difficulty 
in  determining,  you  know,  what  is  the  best  fit  for  an 
individual  who  has  a  career  goal,  but  between  community 
colleges.   And  there's  really  no  place  that  sort  of 
lists  the  top  100  community  colleges,  or  the  top  10 
community  colleges  in  California  like  we  have  for  other 
higher  ed.  systems. 

So  what  are  your  thoughts  about  how  we  make 
that  more  user  friendly  for  the  students  and  get  them 
more  targeted  —  get  more  targeting  in  terms  of  them 
connecting  with  the  appropriate  campus  or  system? 

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1  can  work  with  the  military  on  that. 

2  MR.  BAUM:    I'm  glad  you  brought  that  up. 

3  There's  two  points  I  want  to  make  about  that.   One  is, 

4  one  of  the  things  we  do  with  the  system  is  showcase  the 

5  programs  that  are  working  across  the  state  and  share 

6  them.    So  Solano  district  actually  gets  involved  with 

7  the  de-enlistment  —  I  mean  the  discharge  process  and 

8  sets  up  advising  booths  so  that  when  veterans  are 

9  released,  they  have  access  to  the  program. 

10  The  other  thing  we  do  is  also  advocate  at  the 

11  federal  level  for  more  resources  to  be  directed  to 

12  serving  veterans,  and  we  hope  that  some  of  the  federal 

13  resources  can  be  devoted,  because  California  and  the 

14  California  community  college  system  is  the  largest  place 

15  where  veterans  are  going  to  get  an  education  when  they 

16  finish  their  tours. 

17  SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Thank  you,  Mr.  Chair. 

18  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Very  good. 

19  Senator  Cedillo  or  Dutton  on  the  panel? 

20  SENATOR  DUTTON:    I  was  actually  --  about  the 

21  veterans  program  was  what  I  was  interested  in. 

22  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Very  good. 

23  Senator  Cedillo. 

24  SENATOR  CEDILLO:    General  question.   When  we 

25  have  a  base  agreement  and  challenges  in  the  economy, 

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MR.  BAUM:    Well,  obviously,  it's  a 
communication  issue,  and  we  don't  — 

That  I'm  aware  of,  this  is  a  role  that  the 
system  can  play  effectively  in  informing  the  public 
about  where  the  programs  are  offered  and  what  —  where 
the  specialties  are  stronger  in  one  area  or  the  other. 

What's  great  about  the  community  college  system 
is  it  reaches  every  corner  of  the  state  so  that  students 
can  have  access.    But  we  —  I  don't  know  that  there's 
exactly  the  resource  that  you  described,  and  I  think 
it's  a  —  at  this  time,  I'm  finding  students  that  are 
going  to  two  or  three  colleges  in  one  semester  to  get 
different  courses.   And  so  whatever  we  can  do  to  make  it 
easier  for  them  to  find  the  courses  and  enroll  in  the 
programs  would  be  important.    And  I  think  it's  a  good 
idea  that  we  --  it's  a  role  specifically  that  the  system 
can  play. 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Just  a  suggestion  to  think 
about.   As  you  are  developing  whatever  comes  out  of  this 
veterans  group,  interfacing  with  the  military  — 
interfacing  with  the  military  to  provide  information  as 
part  of  the  separation  process  for  those  who  are  coming 
back  to  California,  just  seems  like  a  real,  you  know, 
sort  of  horse-smart  kind  of  thing  to  do.    So  you  might 
want  to  look  at  ways  that  from  a  system  perspective,  you 

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1  what  can  the  state  do,  working  with  the  community 

2  colleges,  to  facilitate  you  guys  in  terms  of  training 

3  people  for  sustainable  jobs,  jobs  —  I  have  particular 

4  interest  in  nursing  and  the  healthcare  fields.    I  have 

5  particular  interest  in  green  jobs,  high-tech  jobs. 

6  Obviously,  you  covered  vets,  the  tremendous  need. 

7  What  are  the  things  the  state  can  do,  given  the 

8  economic  crisis  and  limited  resources,  that  we  can  do  to 

9  enable  and  encumber  you  to  do  your  job? 

10  MR.  REED:    One  of  the  areas  from  a  practical 

11  standpoint,  and  this  is  just  my  personal  view,  but  we 

12  have  standards,  for  instance,  where  75  percent  of  our 

13  instruction  has  to  be  full-time  instructors  versus 

14  25  percent  adjunct. 

15  There's  specific  areas  of  career  tech  where  I 

16  think  that  law  or  that  ruling  should  be  relaxed, 

17  especially  in  the  area  of  nursing,  if  you  will.    It's 

18  very  difficult  to  attract  a  nursing  instructor 

19  full-time,  firefighting,  some  specialty  areas,  and  I've 

20  always  been  an  advocate  for  that. 

21  We  should  adhere  to  our  standards,  but  there 

22  are  specific  areas  —  For  instance,  in  my  area,  we 

23  recently  enacted  a  welding  program,  because  a  number  of 

24  our  dairymen  were  finding  it  very  difficult  to  attract 

25  welders.   So  we  have  a  certificated  program  now  for 

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welding,  and  it  would  be  very  difficult  to  have  a 
full-time  instructor  as  a  welding  instructor,  if  you 
will,  whereas  if  they  teach  a  class  or  two,  it  fits  into 
their  curriculum  better. 

So  there  are  areas  like  that  where  I  think  the 
state,  on  some  of  the  legislative  matters,  working  with 
the  Senate,  faculty,  and  the  like,  could  relax  some  of 
the  standards  so  we  could  meet  better  the  needs  of  the 
students. 

MR.  BAUM:    I  would  just  say,  and  this  is  a 
common  theme  you  probably  have  heard,  but  the  more  that 
the  legislature  can  support  our  efforts  to  fund  the 
programs  and  allow  more  access  to  students  —  As  you 
know,  we're  the  lowest  cost  per  student  segment  of 
public  higher  education  in  the  state.   And  as  it  stands, 
even  Pasadena  City  College  where  I  serve  on  the  board, 
we're  educating  1800  unfunded  students  over  the  cap  that 
we  receive  from  the  state.    So  we're  trying  to  stretch 
every  dollar. 

And  what  I'm  worried  about  is  that  with  the 
further  cuts,  we're  going  to  not  be  able  to  serve  the 
students  at  a  time  when  our  doors  are  being  beaten  down 
by  people  who  have  lost  their  jobs  and  are  looking  for 
retraining. 

So  when  there's  shrinking  investment,  put  it 

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1  ability  to  do  you're  job?   I  know  that  runs  concurrent 

2  with  —  We  all  share  the  same  concern  with  Mr.  Aanestad. 

3  He  talked  about  remedial  education,  a  change  in 

4  demographics,  changing  demographics,  and  changing  in 

5  terms  of  the  language  skills  of  those  who  participate  in 

6  community  college.    So  what's  been  those  impacts  as 

7  those  two  changes  have  occurred  concurrently? 

8  MR.  BAUM:    Senator,  I  think  I've  observed  over 

9  my  time,  my  20  years  in  education,  and  I  think  we  agree 

10  that  our  system  K  through  14  is  dealing  with  so  many 

11  more  issues  than  we  have  in  the  past,  such  as  English 

12  language  learners,  a  dramatic  increase  in  special 

13  education,  special-needs  students.   Any  number  of  social 

14  things  in  our  society  that,  quite  frankly,  has  required 

15  more  dollars  to  help  solve.   There  are  —  Having  been  in 

16  a  policy  position,  there  are  arguments  on  both  sides  of 

17  that,  what  we  should  and  shouldn't  be  doing. 

18  I  think  the  fact  is  that  schools  are  now 

19  dealing  with  much  more  than  they  ever  have,  and  I  think 

20  it's  had  a  dramatic  effect  on  the  K-12  system  for  sure, 

21  and  I  know  the  community  college  system  as  well. 

22  SENATOR  CEDILLO:    Talk  about  that  with  -  Then 

23  what  does  less  funding  do?   How  does  that  exacerbate? 

24  Your  challenges  are  greater,  and  now  your  resources  are 

25  less. 

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where  the  dollar  is  going  to  go  the  farthest,  and  I 
would  like  to  advocate  community  colleges  as  the  place 
where  we  could  actually  help  people  more  quickly  and 
more  -- 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you. 

SENATOR  CEDILLO:    Back  when  Senator  Aanestad 
was  at  community  college,  he  talked  about  --  Back  when 
he  was  at  community  college,  we  were  the  number  one 
funded  -- 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    You  mean  Scott? 

SENATOR  CEDILLO:    Senator  Aanestad  was 
waxing  — 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Oh,  I'm  sorry. 

SENATOR  AANESTAD:    I  was  surprised  at  how  long 
ago  it  was. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Sorry  about  that. 

SENATOR  CEDILLO:    You're  the  one  who  wasn't 
here. 

Back  when  my  colleague,  Senator  Aanestad,  was 
in  community  college,  25,  30,  35,  40  years  ago,  we  were 
the  number  one  funded  public  education  in  the  nation. 
We're  now  at  --  I  don't  know  where  we  are  --  38,  40, 
45,.  for  K  through  14.    What  do  you  think  has  been  the 
impact  on  the  system  in  that  change  in  funding  over  the 
years?   What's  been  the  impact  on  the  economy  and  your 

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1  MR.  IZUMI:   That's  true.   I  think,  just  to  take 

2  an  example,  I  know  --  and  we  talk  about  this  quite 

3  often,  actually,  at  our  regular  board  meetings  at  the 

4  chancellor's  office.   The  people  who  have  to  staff  up 

5  the  chancellor's  office  in  order  to  do  all  the  various 

6  things  that  need  to  be  done,  for  example,  the  new 

7  accountability  requirement  that  community  colleges  that 

8  report  those  sorts  of  things  that  need  to  be  done  have 

9  to  be  done  with  a  much  smaller  staff  than  —  For 

10  example,  just  a  few  years  ago,  I  believe  we've  gone  from 

11  more  than  200  staff  people  at  the  chancellor's  office  to 

12  about  160  now. 

13  And  in  this  era  of  accountability,  having  to  do 

14  more  things  and  make  sure  those  dollars  are  stretched 

15  and  used  as  wisely  as  possible,  which  I  know  the 

16  chancellor's  office  does,  but  it  does  make  things 

17  difficult  with  the  increased  responsibilities. 

18  With  regard  to,  for  example  --  with  regard  to 

19  the  change  in  demographics  that  my  colleague 

20  Scott  Himelstein  mentioned,  I  think  we  realize  if  we're 

21  going  to  continue  to  be  a  gateway  institution  for  people 

22  in  terms  of  --  be  a  higher  education  then  into  the 

23  workplace,  we  have  to  make  sure  that  people  understand 

24  that  they  have  that  opportunity  within  the  community 

25  colleges,  which  is  why,  for  example,  we  have  a  "/  Can 

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Afford  College"  media  campaign,  which  is  a  —  a  large 
part  of  that  is  directed  to  Spanish  language 
advertisement  in  order  to  make  sure  that  all  segments  of 
California  understand  that  they  do  have  that  opportunity 
to  attend  community  college  here,  and  it  remains  the 
gateway  for  everyone. 

SENATOR  CEDILLO:    Finally,  because  I  can  stay 
here  all  day  with  this,  I  applaud  you  and  I  will  support 
all  of  you.   You're  more  than  qualified.    I  think  you're 
understating  --  you  know,  if  you  were  the  chamber,  you 
would  be  telling  us  what  a  disaster  this  is,  given  that 
you've  got  greater  responsibility  and  greater  challenges 
and  less  money,  how  you  can  do  your  job  and  what  the 
consequences  are  in  the  community.   I  know  you  need  a 
bigger  voice. 

But  nonetheless,  today  is  a  rare  day.   We're 
not  just  dealing  with  people  here  that  are  on  parole 
appointments,  but  we  actually  have  community  college, 
CSU,  and  regents  that  we're  all  going  to  appoint  today. 
What  is  it  that  we  can  do,  as  the  legislature,  to  have 
greater  interface  between  those  three  institutions? 

Frequently,  the  criticism  is  we  have  three 
silos  of  education.   The  master  plan  was  one  that 
community  colleges  would  be  the  gateway,  on  one  hand, 
that  will  help  transition  and  help  to  change  the 

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1  that  more  integration  is  better. 

2  SENATOR  CEDILLO:    Yes. 

3  MR.  REED:    For  a  number  of  years,  in  the  area 

4  that  I  live,  our  students  didn't  have  access  to  a 

5  four-year  institution,  so  our  community  college  really 

6  was  a  higher  form  of  education  for  them.   And  yet 

7  through  distance  learning  and  through  the  cooperation  of 

8  the  CSU  system,  we're  seeing  now  more  like,  for 

9  instance,  California  State  University  of  Fresno  has  been 

10  offering  programs  in  Visalia  at  the  local  community 

11  college  campus  in  an  effort  to  cooperate  and  give  our 

12  students  the  opportunity,  that  don't  have  transportation 

13  or  the  means  to  attend  a  four-year  institution.  They 

14  have  access,  and  that  means  a  lot. 

15  And  this  seamless  process  that  we  talk  about  is 

16  that  now  they  have  the  opportunity  to  see  if  they  go  to 

17  a  community  college  in  a  rural  area,  they  still  have  the 

18  opportunity  to  graduate  from  a  four-year  institution. 

19  And  that's  been  done  as  a  result  of  the  kind  of 

20  cooperation  that  you're  speaking  to  today. 

21  SENATOR  CEDILLO:    And  U.C.  Merced  will  enhance 

22  that? 

23  MR.  REED:    Oh,  absolutely.   Absolutely.   That's 

24  been  a  great  boon  to  our  valley,  even  though  it's  not  in 

25  Tulare  County.    It  should  have  been  in  Tulare  County. 

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economy.   Then  we  have  the  CSU  and  UCs.   What  can  we 
to  help  —  could  we,  the  legislature,  do  to  help  to 
bring  more  interface,  more  seamless  transition,  between 
those  three  institutions,  yours,  the  CSU,  and  the  UCs? 

MR.  BAUM:    First  off,  just  encouraging  it.    I 
think  with  the  new  leadership  in  our  segment  and  the 
U.C.  —  I  know  that  Chancellor  Scott,  Chancellor  Reed, 
and  Chancellor  Yudof  interact  very  carefully.   And  we  as 
a  board  take  that  as  an  important  role,  that  we 
shouldn't  be  operating  independently  from  all  the  other 
systems  of  higher  education.   So  it's  a  communications 
and  encouraging  role,  and  then  calling  on  us  to  make 
sure  that  we're  in  agreement. 

And  also,  in  some  very  pragmatic  ways,  just 
making  sure  that  we,  as  a  system,  are  aligning  our 
curriculum  for  seamless  transfer  and  articulation  with 
the  other  systems,  and  holding  us  accountable  for  that 
so  that  we  don't  have  some  of  the  issues  that  a  few 
Members  have  brought  up  to  us  where  students  at 
individual  community  colleges  find  that  their  coursework 
doesn't  transfer  seamlessly  to  Cal  State  or  U.C.   We 
want  to  take  that  on  as  well,  mindful  of  the  local 
control  issue  that  we  have  with  the  individual 
districts.    But  that  type  of  --  Just  reminding  us  and 
encouraging  us.   I  think  in  this  situation,  we  all  see 

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do 


1  Maybe  you  can  ask  the  chancellor  why  that  didn't  happen. 

2  SENATOR  CEDILLO:    I  think  we  needed  to  - 

3  (Laughter.) 

4  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you,  Senator. 

5  Witnesses  in  support?   Witnesses  in  opposition? 

6  Okay.    Well,  I  think  I  want  to  thank  the 

7  Members,  first  of  all,  for  initiating,  I  think,  a  very 

8  important  and  thorough  discussion.   And  I  suppose  I 

9  just  --  I  want  to  make  two  comments  in  conclusion  -- 

10  well,  three. 

11  First  of  all,  I'm  very  pleased  to  support  all 

12  of  you.   I  think  you  all  are  well-qualified,  and  you 

13  obviously  bring  a  dedication  to  trying  to  improve  the 

14  system  and  create  more  opportunity  for  kids. 

15  Couple  things:   The  community  college  system 

16  has  the  only  residential  program  of  its  kind  for  Autism 

17  Spectrum  Disorder  at  Taft,  near  Bakersfield,  and  the 

18  purpose  of  the  program  is  to  help  those  living  with 

19  developmental  disabilities  gain  the  employment  skills  to 

20  be  contributing  taxpayers  to  the  best  of  their 

21  abilities.   And  that,  obviously,  can  save  the  state  a 

22  lot  of  money,  in  addition  to  providing  opportunity  for 

23  people  who  deserve  opportunity.   And  I  would  just  ask 

24  all  of  you,  as  you  go  forward  here  with  your  terms, 

25  should  you  be  confirmed,  to  look  at  replicating  that, 

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1 

because,  you  know,  there's  a  big  waiting  list. 

1 

Okay.   Thank  you  all  very  much. 

2 

The  Department  of  Developmental  Services  and 

2 

MR.  IZUMI:    Thank  you  very  much. 

3 

the  EDD  system  is  likely  to  take  a  hit  in  the  budget 

3 

MR.  HIMELSTEIN:   Thank  you. 

4 

too,  so  what  can  we  be  doing  to  sort  of,  again, 

4 

MR.  BAUM:    Thank  you. 

5 

integrate  systems  so  it  would  be  possible  to  make  sure 

5 

MR.  REED:    Thank  you. 

6 

people  have  every  opportunity  to  be  contributing. 

6 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Appreciate  it. 

7 

Final  comment,  I  want  to  pick  up  on  Senator 

7 

Let's  take  a  short  break. 

8 

Cedillo's  comment  a  moment  ago.   Once  you  are  confirmed, 

8 

(Recess  taken.) 

9 

you  have  six-year  terms,  and  you're  not  at-will.    Nobody 

9 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Let  us  come  back  to  order 

10 

can  remove  you  for  saying  something  that  offends 

10 

here. 

11 

somebody  else,  and  I  urge  you  to  take  advantage  of  that 

11 

Let  me  ask  William  Hauck  and  Henry  Mendoza,  who 

12 

freedom  and  to  be  public  advocates  for  this  system.   And 

12 

are  up  for  confirmation  as  trustees  of  the  California 

13 

I  know  you  are,  but  to  even  --  to  think  beyond,  you 

13 

State  University  system. 

14 

know,  the  board  meetings  and  what  you  do,  because  your 

14 

Welcome  to  both  of  you. 

15 

role  is  largely  advisory.    I  mean,  this  is  a  system  that 

15 

Mr.  Mendoza,  is  there  anyone  you  want  to 

16 

will  --  Where  the  governor  sits  is  largely  advisory.    So 

16 

introduce? 

17 

whether  it's  op  eds,  TV  appearances,  radio  appearances, 

17 

MR.  MENDOZA:    Absolutely. 

18 

where  you  can  talk  about  --  and  I'm  not  getting 

18 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Since  there's  two  mics  and 

19 

ideological  here,  but  you  can  talk  about  the  impact  of 

19 

there's  two  of  you,  we  don't  have  to  shift  the  mics 

20 

whatever  decisions  that  we  may  be  called  upon  to  make 

20 

around.   Very  good. 

21 

here  that  impact  community  colleges,  you  should  take 

21 

MR.  MENDOZA:    Absolutely.    I'd  like  to 

22 

advantage  of  that  opportunity,  because  we  can't  be  the 

22 

introduce  the  CEO  of  my  family,  my  wife,  Rosa,  who  gave 

23 

only  ones,  and  some  would  argue  that  we  may  not  be  the 

23 

up  her  day  today  of  working  with  my  two  lovely  kids, 

24 

most  effective  messengers  at  this  point  in  time.   So  I 

24 

Sophia  and  Isabella. 

25 

want  to  urge  you  to  be  assertive  and  public  about  how 

25 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Welcome  to  you,  and  thank 

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1 

you  feel  about  community  colleges. 

1 

you  for  coming. 

2 

I'll  take  a  motion. 

2 

MR.  MENDOZA:   And  a  good  friend  of  mine,  Joel 

3 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Moved. 

3 

Ayala,  from  the  California  Hispanic  Chambers  of 

4 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Moved  by  Senator  Oropeza 

4 

Commerce. 

5 

on  all  four  nominees. 

5 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Welcome  to  you  as  well. 

6 

Please  call  the  roll. 

6 

Mr.  Hauck,  I  know  you  have  great  family  and  a 

7 

MS.  BROWN:    Senator  Cedillo. 

7 

lot  of  people,  but  they're  not  here,  so,  you  know,  I'll 

8 

SENATOR  CEDILLO:    Aye. 

8 

introduce  you.    You're  my  constituent. 

9 

MS.  BROWN:    Cedillo  aye. 

9 

MR.  HAUCK:    Thank  you,  Senator. 

10 

Dutton. 

10 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Long-time  - 

11 

Oropeza. 

11 

MS.  SABELHAUS:    Great  intro. 

12 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Aye. 

12 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Long-time  public  servant 

13 

MS.  BROWN:    Oropeza  aye. 

13 

and  good  man.   All  right. 

14 

Aanestad. 

14 

Opening  statements.   I'm  specifically 

15 

SENATOR  AANESTAD:    Aye. 

15 

interested  --  Just  so  you  know  where  I'm  going  to  hone 

16 

MS.  BROWN:    Aanestad  aye. 

16 

in  in  terms  of  my  questioning,  is,  again,  the 

17 

Steinberg. 

17 

relationship  between  the  high-school-dropout  rate,  the 

18 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Aye. 

18 

California  State  University  system,  and  specifically 

19 

MS.  BROWN:    Steinberg  aye. 

19 

explore  why  it  is  the  CSU  system  replicates  the  U.C.'s 

20 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Your  nominations  will  move 

20 

A  to  G  system.    I  want  to  talk  a  little  bit  about  that 

21 

to  --  oh,  we're  going  to  keep  the  roll  open  for 

21 

today,  so  go  ahead.    Your  opening  comments. 

22 

Senator  Dutton,  of  course,  but  your  nomination  already 

22 

MR.  MENDOZA:    I'll  go. 

23 

has  more  than  the  requisite  number  of  votes,  will  move 

23 

My  name  is  Henry  Mendoza.    I'm  a  native 

24 

to  the  floor  of  the  Senate,  and  we'll  take  it  up  before 

24 

Californian.    My  father  was  born  here  in  California  many 

25 

Judge  Sotomayor  is  taken  up  by  the  U.S.  Senate. 

25 

years  ago.   The  only  thing,  he  was  repatriated  with  his 

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family  back  to  Mexico  during  the  depression  and  came 
back  and  was  kind  of  robbed  of  the  ability  to  —  He 
didn't  really  get  assimilated  when  he  came  back.    He 
didn't  know  English,  he  didn't  know  Spanish,  but  it 
didn't  deter  him.    He  followed  the  crops  and  eventually 
got  a  factory  job,  and  he  pushed  us  to  go  to  school. 

I'm  from  a  family  of  five  children.    My  brother 
is  a  dentist  here  locally  —  in  the  San  Francisco  area 
and  also  teaches  at  U.C.  San  Francisco.    So  he's  here 
taking  advantage  of  the  system  that  we  have  here. 

One  of  the  reasons  that  I  think  this  is  a 
fantastic  opportunity  for  me,  to  be  a  trustee,  is  that 
it's  something  that  I  have  never  thought  of  getting  in. 
I  always  tell  people  that  the  only  time  I  saw  the  inside 
of  an  office  was  to  clean  it  when  we  were  kids. 

So  never  even  once  thought  we  were  going  to 
make  it  to  college.    But  some  teachers,  when  I  was 
young,  when  I  was  a  kid,  were  pushing  us  to  go  to 
school,  go  to  school,  go  to  school,  which  I  didn't 
understand  why  we  were  going  to  go  to  school,  but  I  kept 
pushing  forward.   And  if  it  wasn't  for  them,  I  wouldn't 
be  where  I'm  at,  and  I  wouldn't  be  taking  advantage  of 
the  prosperity  of  this  state. 

Since  I've  been  helped,  it's  been  one  of  my 
lifetime  things  just  to  be  an  advocate  for  kids  and 

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1  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Very  good.   Thank  you. 

2  Mr.  Hauck. 

3  MR.  HAUCK:    Mr.  Chair  and  Members,  Bill  Hauck. 

4  I  live  in  Sacramento.    I  am  a  product  also  of  the  CSU 

5  system,  and  I'm  very  dedicated  to  it  because  I  feel  very 

6  strongly  that  to  the  extent  that  I've  been  able  to 

7  achieve  anything  in  my  career,  it  started  with  my 

8  ability  to  work  my  way  through  San  Jose  State.   And  I 

9  think  I'll  leave  it  at  that. 

10  And  perhaps  I  can  begin  by  addressing  your 

11  question,  Senator  Steinberg. 

12  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Okay. 

13  MR.  HAUCK:    First,  I'm  not  familiar  with  the 

14  intricate  process  that  occurs  between  U.C.  and  CSU  to 

15  establish  these  A  through  G  requirements  and  all  the 

16  machinations  of  faculty  deciding  what  courses  are 

17  acceptable  or  not  acceptable  at  U.C,  for  U.C.  and  CSU 

18  admission.    But  the  way  I  would  address  your  question  is 

19  to  say  since  the  CSU  system  trains  more  than  60  percent 

20  of  the  teachers  of  California,  and  it  appears  we  are  not 

21  getting  the  kind  of  results  from  our  K-12  system  that  we 

22  need,  we  have  a  lot  of  work  to  do. 

23  We  have  great  responsibility  for  the  training 

24  of  these  teachers,  and  if  we  are  not  succeeding  in  that, 

25  as  evidenced  by  many  of  the  difficulties  we  have  in  the 

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business,  et  cetera,  in  the  state  of  California.    I 
started  getting  involved  over  20  years  ago,  and  I  kept 
being  involved.    I  think  this  is  a  pinnacle. 

I  am  a  product  of  the  Cal  State  system.    I  went 
to  Cal  State  Fullerton,  and  I've  been  very  proud  to  say 
that  I've  gone  to  the  Cal  State  system  and  attended  one 
of  the  colleges,  universities. 

So,  again,  I'm  very,  very  honored  to  be  a 
trustee.    If  my  parents  were  alive,  they  would  probably 
be  beaming  right  now.    But,  again,  I  just  think  this  is 
great  for  me  and  for  my  kids  and  for  the  community, 
because  I've  been  an  advocate  to  get  the  kids  to  go  to 
school  one  way  or  the  other. 

And,  Senator,  you  talk  about  the  dropout  rate. 
I  know  very,  very,  very  much  so,  because  in  our  area  — 
it's  over  50  percent  in  the  local  area  of  Santa  Ana,  and 
to  get  these  kids  to  do  something,  whether  it  be  taking 
one  route  or  the  other,  I  think  is  huge,  because  as  the 
demographics  change,  you  know,  there  has  to  be  a 
solution  for  it.    Because  if  not,  it's  going  to  be,  I 
think,  a  burden  on  the  state  if  the  kids  don't  get  to 
school  and  get  educated  one  way  or  the  other. 

So,  again,  if  I  can  either  as  a  role  model  or 
to  help  shape  the  system  and  what  happens  there,  I  think 
it's  a  great  opportunity. 

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1  9500  or  so  schools  that  exist  in  this  state,  we  need  to 

2  be  looking  at  how  teachers  are  being  trained  in  the  CSU, 

3  and  we  are  doing  that. 

4  Charlie  Reed,  as  the  chancellor  of  this  system, 

5  is  very  dedicated  to  that  and  very  impatient  with  the 

6  schools  of  education  to  go  out  there  and  find  out  what 

7  the  best  practices  are  in  schools  that  are  succeeding. 

8  And  there  are  many  schools  that  are  succeeding.    We've 

9  identified  more  than  900  that  are  succeeding,  and  over 

10  200  of  them  are  high  poverty  and  high  minority  districts 

11  and  schools. 

12  We  know  one  thing:    If  we  have  competent  and 

13  good  teachers  in  the  classroom,  they  can  motivate  kids, 

14  and  they  can  motivate  them  to  stay  in  school.   And  more 

15  than  anything,  we  need  to  accomplish  that  today,  because 

16  more  than  two-thirds  of  the  kids  in  K-12  today  are 

17  minority  young  people,  and  they  are  the  future  workforce 

18  of  this  state,  and  they  are  the  future  of  the  state. 

19  So  we  have  taken  a  number  of  steps  to  revamp 

20  the  education  department's  curriculum,  and,  as  they  say 

21  from  the  top,  there's  lots  of  dedication  to  this  task, 

22  lots  of  partnerships  with  K-12.   And  I  think  we're 

23  beginning  to  see  the  result  of  that,  but  we  certainly 

24  have  quite  a  ways  to  go. 

25  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you. 

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1  Let  me  open  it  up  here  just  a  little  bit  and 

2  focus  the  discussion. 

3  The  CSU  —  I  want  to  welcome  Chancellor  Reed, 

4  by  the  way,  who  is  here.   Welcome  to  you.   Thank  you  for 

5  being  here  today. 

6  The  CSU  has  made  a  policy  decision  that  it  is 

7  going  to  follow  the  University  of  California  in 

8  determining  what  is  considered  in  high  school  an  A  to  G 

9  course  sufficient  to  qualify  you  for  admission.   And  one 

10  of  the  discussions  that  we're  having  currently  with  the 

11  University  of  California  is  how  the  university  and  its 

12  system  begins  looking  at  rigorous  courses  in  math  and 

13  science  and  in  English,  that  are  applied  to  particular 

14  career  paths  and  professions. 

15  In  other  words,  in  this  building,  in  my  view, 

16  there's  sort  of  an  artificial  debate  between  the 

17  high-standards  advocates  and  the  career- tech-ed. 

18  advocates,  and  certainly  we  cannot  track  kids.   We  can't 

19  do  that.   The  only  answer -- because  too  many  kids  of 

20  color  get  tracked. 

21  But  the  answer  to  the  problem,  in  my  view,  is 

22  to  begin  working  earnestly  to  develop  applied 

23  curriculum,  rigorous  curriculum,  for  all  the  various 

24  career  pathways  where  the  high-wage  jobs  are  in  the 

25  future.    Why  can't  algebra  be  taught  in  ten  different 

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1  not  acceptable. 

2  MR.  MENDOZA:    That  is  actually  what  I  thought 

3  you  meant  because,  actually,  personally,  that  happened 

4  to  myself  and  my  brother.    So,  you  know,  early  on, 

5  people  were  suggesting  we  take  a  certain  path,  and  if  we 

6  had  followed  that  path,  we  probably  would  not  have  been 

7  where  we're  at.   So  I  think  it  is  something  that  can  be 

8  a  danger. 

9  But  at  the  same  time  that  I  say  that,  you 

10  can't  —  I'm  not  the  type  of  person  that  would  like  to 

11  ignore  another  solution,  because  there  obviously  is 

12  something  wrong.    If  you  see  the  dropout  rate  out 

13  there  —  50,  40  percent,  myself  as  Hispanic,  you  know, 

14  10  percent  of  our  kids  going  to  school  —  it's 

15  ridiculous.   Well,  then,  they've  got  to  do  something 

16  else  besides  just  dropping  out  of  school. 

17  So  I  think,  you  know,  coming  up  with  an  idea 

18  where  you  can  have  some  type  of  safeguards  against 

19  tracking  those  kids,  because  it  happens,  so.... 

20  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   There  is  a  safeguard. 

21  It's  called  rigor.   It's  called  making  sure  all  the 

22  courses  are  of  strong  academic  content  so  that  the  kids 

23  of  color  aren't  shoved  into  the  easier  courses  that  may 

24  be  technical.   The  technical  courses  have  to  be 

25  rigorous.   And  where  is  the  work?   Where  is  the  work 

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1  ways,  or  geometry  be  taught  in  ten  different  ways  as 

2  applied  to  a  construction  pathway,  a  biotech  pathway? 

3  Name  your  ten  leading  directions  of  our  economy.    And 

4  what  bothers  me  a  little  bit  —  more  than  a  little 

5  bit  —  is  that  the  CSU  is  replicating  the  U.C.  without 

6  thinking  themselves  how  might  we  bring  our  own 

7  independent  thinking  and  creativity  and  energy  into 

8  not  lowering  standards,  but  looking  at  how  the  CSU  can 

9  be  a  place  like  the  community  colleges,  but  even  more 

10  so,  that  focuses  on  rigor  but  pathways  at  the  same 

11  time. 

12  And  so  I'd  like  to  hear  your  thoughts  on  that, 

13  and  if  it's  something  that  you  hadn't  really  thought  of 

14  before  or  didn't  know  that  CSU  follows  the  U.C.  when  it 

15  comes  to  A  to  G,  it's  certainly  something  I  would  like 

16  you  to  take  away  from  this  hearing  and  really  look  into, 

17  because  I  think  this  is  the  core  of  economic  development 

18  here. 

19  MR.  MENDOZA:    I'm  fairly  new.    I've  only  been 

20  to  three  meetings  this  last  year.    I  think  it's 

21  something  to  think  about.    I'm  not  sure  I  understand, 

22  Senator,  when  you  said  people  of  color  are  tracked  -- 

23  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    I'm  saying  that's  a 

24  danger.    When  you  have  multiple  pathways,  that  poor  kids 

25  and  kids  of  color  are  going  to  get  tracked,  and  that's 

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1  being  done?   And  shouldn't  there  be  more  work  being  done 

2  at  the  CSU  system  to  integrate  rigorous  curriculum  with 

3  pathways? 

4  MR.  HAUCK:    I  think  that's  correct.   I  think 

5  we're  beginning  to  do  that,  but  --  We  get  your  point. 

6  What  you  say  is  reasonable,  and  we  will  take  that  --  we 

7  will  take  your  admonitions  and  follow  through  on  this. 

8  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you. 

9  MR.  HAUCK:    I'm  not  a  technical  expert  in  this 

10  area. 

11  SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Can  I  chime  in? 

12  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Yes,  chime  in.   It's  a 

13  very  important  discussion. 

14  SENATOR  OROPEZA:    This  is  a  very  important 

15  issue,  and  looking  at  the  demographic  profile  of  our 

16  state  and  where  it  is  heading,  there  is  a  danger  of  this 

17  tracking  thing  becoming  again  as  it  was  when  I  was  in 

18  school.    It  seemed  to  have  gotten  a  little  better  for  a 

19  while,  and  then  it  kind  of  reverted. 

20  Let  me  say  that  I  think  that  the  --  because  the 

21  CSU  is  the  institution  of  higher  education  that  educates 

22  most  of  our  teachers,  it  is  the  prime  place  to  do  this 

23  kind  of  work,  because  as  part  of  --  part  of  the,  you 

24  know,  credentialing  —  part  of  the  teaching  of  the 

25  teachers  ought  to  be  research  work  and  development  of 

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new  curriculum  that  responds  to  this. 

1 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    I  do. 

2 

So  this  is  something  that  you  as  trustees  -- 

2 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Senator  Oropeza. 

3 

and  believe  me,  I  know,  because  I  was  one.    I  was  a 

3 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    What  do  you  think  the  role  of 

4 

student  trustee  a  long  time  ago.   I  know  that  you  have 

4 

a  board  member  is  in  regard  to  a  conversation  like  the 

5 

the  ability  to  make  a  course  correction  on  this.   There 

5 

one  that  we're  having  now?  And  you  mentioned  maybe  more 

6 

is  no  reason  why  it  shouldn't  be  being  done.    So  I  hope 

6 

should  be  happening.    I  mean,  what  is  the  role  of  a 

7 

that  you  will  heed  the  chairman's  words  on  this,  because 

7 

board  member  or  the  board  as  a  whole? 

8 

it  really  is  about  what  the  future  of  our  state  is. 

8 

MR.  HAUCK:    Well,  the  first  thing  I  would  do 

9 

It's  that  serious.   And  nobody's  better  in  a  position  to 

9 

would  be  to  turn  to  Charlie  Reed,  who  is  the  CEO  of  the 

0 

do  it  than  the  community  college  --  I  mean,  excuse  me, 

10 

system,  and  say,  "What  are  we  presently  doing?"  and  ask 

1 

the  CSU. 

11 

him  for  a  report  on  that.   And  then  we  would  go  from 

2 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    If  I  may  before  you 

12 

there. 

3 

answer,  and  I'll  get  off  my  bully-pulpit  high  horse  in 

13 

If,  in  our  judgment,  we're  not  doing  enough,  we 

4 

just  a  moment  here,  all  right?   Hey,  these  —  You're 

14 

need  to  do  more,  we're  not  doing  it  well  enough,  then  we 

5 

both  good  guys.    I'm  going  to  recommend  both  of  you  for 

15 

would  direct  him  to  make  that  happen.   That's  the  role 

6 

confirmation.    But  this  is  an  opportunity  to  have  a  real 

16 

of  the  board.    Not  to  actually  do  it,  but  to  -- 

7 

discussion  about  what  is  important,  and  so  we  want  to  do 

17 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Certainly  support  the 

8 

that. 

18 

chancellor. 

9 

Senator  Oropeza  I  think  kind  of  hit  the  key  to 

19 

MR.  HAUCK:    Support  and  make  it  happen,  yes. 

0 

this,  and  that  is  looking  at  —  the  CSU  is  the  single 

20 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    But  also  to  make  it  happen? 

1 

biggest  producer  of  teachers  for  our  K-12  system  -- 

21 

MR.  HAUCK:    Right. 

2 

MR.  HAUCK:    Right. 

22 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    And  sometimes  maybe  push  back 

3 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    --  and  what  isn't 

23 

a  little  on  the  chancellor,  now  and  then,  in  a  polite 

4 

happening  --  what  isn't  happening  is  that  the  teaching 

24 

way,  but  nonetheless.... 

5 

program,  the  credentialing  programs,  are  not  providing 

25 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Charlie's  used  to  that. 

58 

60 

1 

the  training,  by  and  large,  to  teachers  to  be  able  to 

1 

MR.  HAUCK:    Yes,  he  is. 

2 

deliver  hands-on,  applied,  rigorous  curriculum. 

2 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Pardon  me? 

3 

So  maybe  the  place  to  start  and  the  biggest 

3 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    He's  used  to  that. 

4 

place  where  the  CSU  can  make  such  a  contribution  is  to 

4 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Let  me  ask  a  couple  quick 

5 

look  at  the  teacher  training  program  to  make  sure  that 

5 

other  questions.    One  is  about  one  of  my  chief  interests 

6 

we're  producing  the  next  cadre  of  teachers  with  not  only 

6 

legislatively  up  here,  and  it's  an  abiding  issue  for  me 

7 

the  academic  underpinnings  to  be  able  to  teach  the 

7 

to  keep  an  eye  on  both  --  well,  all  the  systems,  and 

8 

academic  courses,  but  to  be  able  to  do  so,  again,  in  ten 

8 

that  is  Title  IX.   And  CSU  is  not  doing  so  well  in  this 

9 

different  applied  ways,  because  then  you've  got  —  it's 

9 

regard,  particularly  Fresno.    But  we  got  a  problem.   We 

0 

like  —  You  know,  it's  like  a  quarterback  who  can  both 

10 

have  got  a  serious  problem. 

1 

pass  and  run.   Much  more  effective,  much  more  dangerous 

11 

The  CSU  system  paid  out  over  $16  million  in 

2 

than  a  quarterback  who  can  just  pass. 

12 

lawsuits  to  five  former  employees,  all  women,  at  Fresno, 

3 

I  think  - 

13 

and  that's  been  since  October  of  2007.   The  sixth  woman 

4 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    And  then  throw  in  the 

14 

filed  a  lawsuit  in  February  against 

5 

dynamic  --  the  other  piece,  which  is  in  the 

15 

CSU  Fresno  alleging  gender  discrimination  and  Title  IX. 

6 

multicultural  education  -- 

16 

What  is  the  role  of  the  board  in  assuring  that 

7 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    In  a  multicultural  -- 

17 

Title  IX  is  adhered  to,  that  we  avoid  these  lawsuits 

8 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    In  a  multicultural  student 

18 

where  there's  money  that  can  be  much  better  spent  in 

9 

environment,  which  is  the  other  thing  — 

19 

another  place  than  lawsuits? 

0 

MR.  HAUCK:    We  certainly  have  that. 

20 

So  tell  me  about  what  you  think  the  board 

1 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    -  teachers  need  to  be 

21 

should  be  doing  and  is  doing,  since  this  is  an  existing 

2 

teaching  —  need  to  be  learning. 

22 

problem. 

3 

MR.  HAUCK:    I  think  some  of  this  is  happening, 

23 

MR.  MENDOZA:    I  know  that  we're  monitoring  it 

4 

Senator,  but  perhaps  not  enough.    Probably  not  enough. 

24 

very  closely.   It's  an  issue  that's  come  up  since  I've 

5 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Okay.    Other  Members? 

25 

been  there.    I  know  there's  been  reports  done  to  the 

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1  board,  and  they're  reporting  to  Charlie,  the  chancellor, 

2  also. 

3  So  I  think  it's  something  we're  taking  very, 

4  very  seriously.    It's  something  that,  number  one,  it's 

5  wasting  money  for  all  of  us,  that  we're  all  trying  to 

6  find.    And,  two,  I  think  it's  something  that's  not 

7  acceptable,  and  it  needs  to  be  monitored  and  fixed,  if 

8  that's  what  needs  to  be  done,  or  make  sure  that  it 

9  doesn't  happen  again. 

10  We're  making  sure  that  —  We're  getting  reports 

11  on  a  pretty  regular  basis,  you  know,  from  the  chancellor 

12  and  the  presidents  on  that  monitoring.   I  know  at  most 

13  of  the  colleges,  we're  about  90  percent  there.   It's  not 

14  always  that  easy,  as  far  as  I  understand,  to  be  in 

15  compliance,  because  of  scholarships,  et  cetera,  NCAA, 

16  et  cetera. 

17  SENATOR  OROPEZA:   Trust  me.   If  you  have  sat 

18  through  the  hearings  that  I  have  sat  through  and  heard 

19  directly  from  the  mouths  of  the  individuals  involved, 

20  you  would,  perhaps,  see  it  a  little  differently. 

21  Mr.  Hauck,  you've  been  around  a  while. 

22  MR.  HAUCK:    Yes. 

23  SENATOR  OROPEZA:    So  for  you,  there  ought  to  be 

24  some  accountability  on  this  issue  as  a  board  member,  as 

25  an  individual  board  member  and  as  a  member  of  the 

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1  of  all  presidents. 

2  So  with  respect  to  this  latest  allegation,  it's 

3  so  new  in  the  process  that  we  don't  yet  know  what  the 

4  fact  situation  actually  is.   There  have  been  allegations 

5  made.   We  don't  know  whether  they  are  legitimate  or  not, 

6  but  I  can  assure  you,  Senator,  that  we  are  going  to  be 

7  asking  our  general  counsel  for  information  about  that  as 

8  we  proceed. 

9  SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Good,  good. 

10  MR.  HAUCK:    I  guess,  secondly,  I  would  say  we 

11  have  instituted  training  programs  at  all  of  our 

12  universities  with  regard  to  the  treatment  of  all 

13  personnel  with  regard  to  compliance  with  Title  IX.   And 

14  it's  my  hope,  and,  I  think,  my  belief  that  we  will  not 

15  see  these  kinds  of  problems  in  as  --  in  as  much  as  we've 

16  seen  them  and  in  as  great  a  quantity  as  we've  seen  them 

17  in  the  past. 

18  In  the  CSU  system,  there  are  47,000  employees. 

19  Most  of  the  lawsuits  that  are  initiated  are 

20  employer-employee-relations  lawsuits.   Again,  through 

21  training  programs,  we  have  pushed  everyone  in  order  to 

22  reduce  the  number  of  lawsuits.   And,  actually,  that's 

23  happened.    We  have  significantly  reduced  the  number  of 

24  employee-employer-relations  lawsuits  that  the  system 

25  deals  with.   Will  we  ever  get  it  to  zero?   Probably  not 

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collective  board.    So  Mr.  Mendoza  is  a  new  member.    He's 
been  there  a  few  months.    He  understands  there's  a 
problem.    He  believes  he's  part  of  the  group  that  is 
going  to  make  sure  it  doesn't  happen  again. 

Talk  to  me  about  how  it  has  happened  multiple 
times  on  your  watch.   Talk  to  me  about  that  and  what  the 
board  does  or  doesn't  do  about  it. 

MR.  HAUCK:    Okay. 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    I  know  that's  an  assertive 
question. 

MR.  HAUCK:    Right. 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    But  I  feel  that  it's 
appropriately  so. 

MR.  HAUCK:    It's  clearly  our  responsibility  to 
be  sure  that  we  are  compliant  with  Title  IX. 
Specifically,  in  the  Fresno  State  situation,  mistakes 
were  made.   There's  no  question  about  that.   And  the 
mistakes  that  were  made  definitely  raised  a  level  of 
sensitivity  and  visibility  to  the  issue  on  our  board. 

We  have  a  new  athletic  director  there. 
Actually,  he's  not  new  now.    He's  been  there  two  years. 
I  think  the  previous  athletic  director  made  some  very 
bad  mistakes,  and  we've  acknowledged  that  those  mistakes 
were  made,  and  we've  held  the  president  there 
accountable  in  the  course  of  the  evaluations  that  we  do 

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1  with  47,000  people. 

2  But  I  can  tell  you  sincerely  that  this  is  a 

3  matter  that  is  of  tremendous  concern  to  us,  and, 

4  particularly,  gender  inequities  are  just  not  acceptable. 

5  That's  all.   They're  just  flat  not  acceptable.   And  when 

6  we  see  them,  we  are  going  to  hold  people  accountable. 

7  And  that's  the  role,  I  believe,  of  the  board. 

8  SENATOR  OROPEZA:    I  think  that's  a  great 

9  answer,  and  I  appreciate  it.    And  I  appreciate  both  of 

10  your  commitments  to  follow  through  on  this  issue  and  a 

11  commitment  to  accountability,  which  is  so  critical, 

12  because  my  experience  with  the  Fresno  situation  is  that 

13  it  goes  pretty  high,  the  need  for  some  adjustment  goes 

14  very  high. 

15  You  mentioned  that  in  the  evaluations  of  the 

16  president,  that  was  discussed  and  handled. 

17  MR.  HAUCK:    It  was  more  than  discussed. 

18  SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Okay.    Dealt  with.    I  won't 

19  ask  anything  beyond  that,  but  I  think  that  that's  very 

20  appropriate,  and  I  hope  that  that  level  of  concern 

21  continues.   And  I  feel  reassured  -- 

22  MR.  HAUCK:    It  will  continue. 

23  SENATOR  OROPEZA:    --  hearing  your  response. 

24  Finally,  let  me  ask  one  more  question,  and  that 

25  relates  to  executive  compensation,  and  what  your  beliefs 

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and  attitudes  are  in  terms  of  the  decisions  that  have 
been  made  over  the  last  period  of  time  where  there  have 
been  an  expansion  of  full-time  management  positions  in 
the  same  period  of  time  where  there  was  —  let's  see. 

There  were  100  full-time  management  positions 
between  fall  of  '07  and  fall  of  '08  that  were  added,  and 
the  —  while  that  —  during  that  same  time,  faculty  was 
reduced  by  184  full-time  positions. 

The  --  There  were  also  raises  that  were  given 
to  management  employees,  24  percent  systemwide.   And  I 
hate  to  say,  my  alma  mater,  it  was  86  percent.   And  at 
CSU  Sacramento,  it  was  87  percent. 

And  so  what  is  your  response  to  the  board's 
policy  on  executive  and  management  compensation? 

MR.  HAUCK:    Do  you  want  me  to  start? 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Period. 

MR.  MENDOZA:    As  far  as  --  Again,  since  I've 
been  --  I  am  —  I  have  limited  time  there,  but  I  have 
not  seen  any  raises  given.    I  know  we've  hired  a  new 
vice  chancellor.   And  for  those  of  you  that  don't  know, 
I  was  there  in  '07  for  a  couple  meetings,  and  then 
because  of  some  technical  --  technicalities,  I  was  off 
for  a  year.    And  I  know  at  that  point  in  time  there  were 
some  adjustments  made. 

At  that  point  in  time,  I  don't  think  we  were  in 

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1  SENATOR  OROPEZA:    I  think  that  would  be  great. 

2  I  would  love  to  hear  some  response. 

3  MR.  HAUCK:    I  would  say  just  generally,  that  in 

4  terms  of  management-level  expense,  between  2000-2001, 

5  the  percentage  of  management  expense  at  15.2  has  been 

6  reduced  in  '08-'09  to  12.7  overall  in  the  system.   The 

7  chancellor  has  reduced  the  number  of  employees  in  the 

8  chancellor's  office. 

9  I  think,  as  an  example,  in  our  system  with 

10  47,000  employees,  there  are  102  vice  presidents.    It 

11  doesn't  strike  me  that  --  100  vice  presidents  against 

12  47,000  employees  is  not  an  outrageous  number  as  far  as 

13  percentage  of  total  employees.   And,  of  course,  all  of 

14  these  folks  are  crucial  to  the  operations  of  each  of 

15  these  universities. 

16  Our  board,  I  believe,  is  very  sensitive  about 

17  executive  compensation.   At  the  same  time,  we  feel 

18  strongly  that  we've  got  to  try  to  remain  reasonably 

19  competitive  in  the  market  when  we  are  recruiting  for 

20  both  presidents,  chancellors,  and  vice  presidents. 

21  And  I  can  tell  you  that  recently,  for  example, 

22  we  were  recruiting  for  a  new  president  at  San  Jose 

23  State.    Fortunately,  we  got  lucky  and  were  able  to  hire 

24  someone  from  Texas  who  was  leaving  there  for  reasons  I 

25  won't  go  into,  but  he  took  a  cut  in  pay  in  order  to  come 

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the  same  place  we  are  now,  but  the  discussion  that  came 
about  was  the  position  of  the  Cal  State  system  and  the 
executives  there.   Where  we  are  at,  we  ranked  really, 
really  low  as  far  as  the  compensation.   That's  the  main 
thing  --  the  study  that  I  saw.    But,  again,  at  this 
point  in  time,  I  don't  think  it's  the  time  to  be  giving 
raises.    It  doesn't  look  good,  it  doesn't  sound  good, 
and  it  doesn't  feel  right  either,  and  it  has  not  been, 
as  far  as  I  know. 

I  know  that  there  were  some  findings  in  the 
prior  audit  reports,  and  I  know  that  we've  made 
everybody  accountable.   There's  been  reports  given  to 
the  trustees,  and  we're  making  sure  that  we're  staying 
on  top  of  that.    But  I  don't  know  of  any  raises  that 
have  been  given  since  I've  been  on  there. 

MR.  HAUCK:    I  don't  think  in  the  last  year  - 
there  haven't  been  -- 

If  there  have  been  any  raises,  there  have 
generally  been  adjustments  when  people  changed 
positions,  that  they  were  moved  into  another  position, 
or,  in  one  or  two  cases,  there  were  new  hires,  and  they 
were  compensated  there. 

Just  in  --  Senator,  I  can't  respond  to  those 
specific  percentages  that  you  cited.    We  can  follow  up 
with  you  on  that. 

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1  to  San  Jose  State  and  live  in  an  area  that  was  much  more 

2  expensive. 

3  We  are  going  to  face  this  problem  in  the  next 

4  three,  four,  five  years,  because  we  have  a  number  of 

5  presidents  that  are  going  to  retire.    If  we  don't  have 

6  competent  people  running  these  --  If  we  could  have 

7  King  Alexanders  on  every  one  of  our  campuses,  that  would 

8  be  great.   Our  problem  is  going  to  be  hanging  on  to 

9  King  Alexander,  because  he's  becoming  a  national  star, 

10  frankly,  and  has  already  been  approached  and  recruited, 

11  and,  fortunately,  decided  to  stay  with  Long  Beach  State. 

12  So  we  are  very  mindful  of  the  environment  that 

13  we  are  in.    At  the  same  time  --  and  we're  not  going  to 

14  grant  outrageous  raises.   We  don't  have  outrageous 

15  benefit  packages.    But  we  also  feel  like  you've  made  it 

16  our  responsibility  to  make  sure  these  universities  are 

17  well  run,  and  if  we  don't  do  that,  then  you'll  be  after 

18  us  for  that. 

19  SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Sure.    I'm  not 

20  actually  referring  to  the  presidents  of  the  campus.   I'm 

21  really  talking  about  management,  you  know,  broader  than 

22  just  the  presidents.   And  I  appreciate  your  response. 

23  MR.  HAUCK:    Okay. 

24  SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Sorry.    I  got  one  more 

25  little.... 

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CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    One  more. 

1 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Say  that  again. 

2 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Did  you  know  —  Did  you  know 

2 

SENATOR  CEDILLO:   Are  they  tied  any  more  than, 

3 

that  you  all  hire  contract  lobbyists  along  with  your 

3 

say,  law  enforcement,  CHP? 

4 

full-time  governmental  affairs  lobbyists,  with  taxpayer 

4 

SENATOR  AANESTAD:    Firefighters. 

5 

money,  to  kill  bills?   Did  you  know  that? 

5 

SENATOR  CEDILLO:    Firefighters. 

6 

MR.  HAUCK:   Yes,  I  was  aware  of  that. 

6 

They  have  independent  lobbyists.   Are  they  tied 

7 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:   You  knew  that.   What  do  you 

7 

more  than  education  in  general?  The  LAUSD  has  a  pretty 

8 

think  about  it? 

8 

hefty  bill  for  lobbyists,  independent,  private-sector 

9 

SENATOR  AANESTAD:    Did  they  kill  the  bill? 

9 

lobbyists. 

10 

(Laughter.) 

10 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    I  love  democracy. 

11 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    I  don't  know.    I'm  not  sure. 

11 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:   All  these  things  are  a 

12 

But  I  think  it's  an  interesting  sort  of  relationship 

12 

puzzle.   After  I  found  that  out,  I  wanted  to  raise  it 

13 

there,  you  know. 

13 

here. 

14 

MR.  HAUCK:    I  don't  know  what  the  source  of 

14 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    I'm  glad  you  raised  it. 

15 

funding  is.   I'll  check  that  with  the  chancellor. 

15 

I  think  you  should  get  back  to  us. 

16 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    I  think  it  was  foundation 

16 

MR.  HAUCK:    All  right. 

17 

money.    But  nonetheless,  I'm  talking  about  the 

17 

SENATOR  CEDILLO:    I  think  the  question  the 

18 

institution  and  the  philosophy  behind  hiring  external 

18 

Senator  was  raising  is:    What's  the  distinction?   Is 

19 

people,  you  know,  hired  guns  --  if  I  told  you  the  names, 

19 

there  some  closeness  where  maybe  it's  inappropriate;  but 

20 

you'd  recognize  them  easily  --  hired  guns  to  defeat 

20 

then  on  the  other  hand,  how  do  we  measure  who's  close? 

21 

legislation,  beyond  the  people  that  you  have  which  we 

21 

I  mean,  the  CHP  has  a  lobbyist,  and  they're 

22 

know  about,  which  are  your  regular  governmental 

22 

integral  to  maintaining  public  safety  on  our  highways. 

23 

relations  staff,  which  do  a  fine  job  educating  us  about 

23 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Well,  the  CHP  -  We  know 

24 

the  points  of  view  of  the  system. 

24 

that  the  CHP  officer's  union  has  an  outside  lobbyist, 

25 

I'm  just  wondering  what  you  all  think  about  it. 

25 

but  I'm  not  sure  that's  true  of  the  CHP  or  other 

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1 

I  don't  think  a  lot  about  it. 

1 

executive  departments. 

2 

MR.  HAUCK:    I  picked  that  up. 

2 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:   They  have  a  governmental 

3 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Neither  do  I.    I  mean, 

3 

relations  unit,  which  is  similar  to  the  CSU's  unit.    But 

4 

I  --  That  really  wasn't  on  my  radar  screen,  but  that 

4 

the  other  folks,  the  hired  guns,  are  not  representing  -- 

5 

bothers  me  too. 

5 

in  this  case,  as  I  understand  it,  are  not  representing 

6 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Yeah.    It's  a  weird 

6 

the  union  representation.   They're  representing  the 

7 

relationship. 

7 

board  and  the  board's  point  of  view  --  I  assume  the 

8 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Go  ahead.    What  do  you 

8 

board  or  somebody  at  the  institution  at  that  level's 

9 

think? 

9 

point  of  view  on  legislation.   There  is  a  little  bit  of 

10 

MR.  HAUCK:    We'll  get  back  to  you  on  that. 

10 

a  difference  there.    It's  a  puzzlement  to  me. 

11 

Okay? 

11 

SENATOR  CEDILLO:    Is  there  a  difference  without 

12 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Okay.    Fair  enough.   Thank 

12 

a  distinction? 

13 

you. 

13 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   To  be  continued.    How 

14 

MR.  HAUCK:    Thank  you. 

14 

about  that? 

15 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Other  Senators? 

15 

Any  other  questions  from  the  good  senators? 

16 

SENATOR  AANESTAD:    Actually,  any  governmental 

16 

SENATOR  CEDILLO:    I  was  interested  in  the 

17 

agency  using  taxpayer  money  -- 

17 

earlier  discussions  of  what  could  the  state  do  to  get 

18 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Well,  you  know, 

18 

more  collaboration  between  the  community  colleges  and 

19 

interesting.   You  could  ask  the  same  question:    What 

19 

the  CSU  and  the  U.C.  system. 

20 

about  the  League  of  Cities,  or  the  cities? 

20 

What  are  the  things  that  you  could  look  to  us 

21 

On  the  other  hand,  the  CSU  system  and  the 

21 

to  unencumber  you  or  enable  you  to  have  more 

22 

U.C.  system,  they  are  tied  intrinsically  to  state 

22 

collaboration? 

23 

government. 

23 

This  is  a  time  where  we  need  really  aggressive 

24 

SENATOR  CEDILLO:    Are  they  tied  any  more  than 

24 

out-of-the-box  thinking,  out-of-the-silo  thinking,  given 

25 

law  enforcement? 

25 

the  economic  crisis.   Again,  the  same  situation.    My 

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sense  is  that  your  funding  is  not  the  same,  or  your 
ranking  and  funding  is  not  the  same  as  it  was  when 
Mr.  Aanestad  attended  community  college,  and  yet  your 
student  population  is  different. 

It's  challenging.    You've  got  displaced 
workers,  you  have  training,  you  have  people  entering 
your  system  so  when  they  came  to  graduate,  were 
admissible  but  still  have  challenges,  and  an  incredible 
change  in  our  population,  English  language  learning, 
people  who  are  in  the  undocumented  population, 
extraordinary  and  talented  with  tremendous  potential, 
but  still  have  challenges  with  language.    Speaking 
another  language  is  not  a  measure  of  talent.    Potential 
challenges  in  the  environment  when  people  are  speaking 
another  language. 

MR.  HAUCK:    Senator,  I  think  that  perhaps  now 
more  than  at  any  time  before,  the  three  systems  are 
working  together.   The  CEOs  of  each  of  the  three  systems 
have  agreed  to  work  together,  for  example,  on  community 
college  transfer,  and  it's  our  intent  to  expand  the 
scope  of  the  cooperation  to  a  range  of  issues,  including 
the  one  that  Senator  Steinberg  raised. 

I  don't  think  that  we  can  any  longer  afford  to 
let  these  institutions  operate  in  silos.   It's  not 
efficient,  and  it's  not  going  to  serve  the  people  of 

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1  And  there  may  be  a  range  of  other  things  that 

2  we  will  come  to  the  legislature  with  in  that  respect. 

3  So  we  would  look  forward  to  the  support. 

4  MR.  MENDOZA:    As  far  as  for  my  take,  I  think 

5  learning  the  ropes  and  learning  how  everything 

6  functions,  I'm  asking  a  lot  of  questions,  "Why?"   Sol 

7  think  that  right  there  — 

8  SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Good.    Keep  asking.    Keep 

9  asking. 

10  MR.  MENDOZA:    You  know,  I  think  that's  the 

11  thing,  why  we're  doing  things,  and  learning  the  system, 

12  and,  I  think,  making  suggestions. 

13  I  think  the  question  was  asked  to  me  by  the 

14  staff  earlier:    What  is  our  role  as  a  trustee?  You 

15  know,  I've  been  on  a  lot  of  boards  and  run  some  pretty 

16  large  organizations,  and  as  a  board  member  you  do  set 

17  the  tone  of  where  —  the  direction  that  you  want  or  you 

18  think  the  organization  should  go. 

19  So  I  think  now  is  the  time,  especially  the 

20  times  that  we're  in,  to  think  out  of  the  box,  to  see 

21  what  we  can  do,  because  there  are  changing  times.   We 

22  talked  about  the  demographics.   We  haven't  talked  about 

23  it,  but  our  --  you  know,  what's  going  on  with  the  green 

24  economy  and  what's  going  on  with  global  warming  and  all 

25  that.    It's  sparking  new  industries.    It's  sparking  new 

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California  well,  and  it's  certainly  not  going  to  serve 
students  well.    So  I  think  you  can  look  forward  to 
much  greater  cooperation  between  all  three  segments,  and 
I  think  you  can  look  forward  to  the  three  segments 
coming  to  the  legislature  to  answer  your  question  in 
terms  of  things  that  you  can  consider  doing  that  you 
might  not  have  considered  before. 

For  example,  we  don't  have,  in  this  state,  a 
transfer  degree  from  community  colleges.   We  should.   We 
should  have  a  transfer  degree.    If  you  take  the  right 
units,  60  units,  in  a  community  college,  you  should 
first  get  a  degree;  and,  secondly,  they  ought  to  be 
transferable  to  any  CSU  or  U.C.  campus  in  the  state. 
And  that's  not  true  today. 

We've  made  some  progress.    Senator  Scott 
carried  a  bill  going  in  that  direction,  but  we  need  to 
go  a  lot  farther  in  that  direction,  because  we  find 
community  college  students  transferring  to  the  CSU  with 
70  or  80  units.   They  don't  need  70  or  80  units  to 
transfer.   And  that's  expensive.   Taxpayers  are 
underwriting  those  costs  and,  more  importantly,  perhaps, 
or  as  important,  a  lot  of  students  —  it's  taking  up 
seats  with  a  lot  of  students.   There's  been  resistance 
to  that.   There's  been  some  faculty  resistance  to  that, 
and  we  may  want  to  ask  you  to  help  us  with  that. 

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1  ways  of  doing  things,  the  digital  age  and  everything. 

2  It's  not  the  same  as  it  was  when  I  was  there  30  years 

3  ago,  so  I  think  it's  time  to  look  at  it. 

4  As  I'm  learning  how  the  systems  work  together, 

5  I  think  now  is  the  time  that  we  could  help  sort  of  my 

6  suggestions,  and  as  Bill  was  saying,  it  should  be 

7  working  closer.    We  are  going  to  look  into  that.    I'd 

8  like  to  see  what  we  can  do  a  little  bit  to  develop  the 

9  system. 

10  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you. 

11  Senator  Aanestad. 

12  SENATOR  AANESTAD:    I  know  you've  been  very 

13  patient,  and  I  asked  you  this  question  earlier  this 

14  morning,  but  I  thought  your  answer  was  very  good,  and  I 

15  wanted  it  on  the  record. 

16  And  that  was:    Years  ago,  your  students  could 

17  count  on  graduating  from  the  CSU  system  in  four  years, 

18  and  by  CSU's  own  acknowledgment  it  now  is  taking  five  or 

19  six  years.    I  know  we  talked  about  lack  of  resources 

20  and,  therefore,  limited  offerings,  but  you  had  other 

21  reasons  why  this  might  be  true,  and  I  would  love  you  to 

22  expound  on  that. 

23  But  the  ending  question  is:    It  still  is 

24  expensive  for  the  students  and  their  families  to  take 

25  that  long,  and  how  committed  is  the  board  to  trying  to 

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get  those  students  through  the  system  as  quickly  as 

1 

the  implementation  of  what  is  learned. 

2 

possible? 

2 

And  Henry  is  a  self-made  man  who  brings  forth  a 

3 

MR.  HAUCK:   Well,  taking  the  last  first,  we're 

3 

lot  of  this  —  his  education,  his  experience,  and  his 

4 

very  committed  to  that.   What  I  said  to  you  this  morning 

4 

implementing  at  the  —  and  giving  back  to  the  community. 

5 

was:    If  you  look  back  30  years,  the  demographics  of 

5 

So  with  that,  sir,  the  California  Hispanic 

6 

California  were  much  different  from  what  they  are  today. 

6 

Chambers  of  Commerce  proudly  supports  Mr.  Henry  Mendoza. 

7 

In  the  CSU  system,  nearly  two-thirds  of  our  students  are 

7 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Thank  you  very  much. 

8 

transfer  students  from  the  community  colleges.  They  are 

8 

Other  witnesses  in  support?  Any  witnesses  in 

9 

older;  they  are  mostly  independent  of  their  parents 

9 

opposition  to  the  nominees? 

10 

financially.    Most  of  them  are  working;  some  of  them  are 

10 

All  right.    Is  there  a  motion? 

11 

married.   And  all  of  that  kind  of  folds  together  to 

11 

SENATOR  AANESTAD:    So  moved. 

12 

result  in  students  taking  longer,  because  there  are  some 

12 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Moved  by  Senator  Aanestad. 

13 

semesters  when  they  can't  take  full  academic  loads. 

13 

I  want  to  thank  you  for  your  public  service 

14 

But  it  is  important  for  us  to  try  to  move  them 

14 

during  very,  very  difficult  times,  and  I  hope  that  you 

15 

through  the  system  as  quickly  as  possible  in  relation  to 

15 

enjoyed  the  robust  conversation  here. 

16 

the  cost  and  in  relation  to  the  workforce. 

16 

And  we're  serious  about  what  we  do,  just  as 

17 

We  do  have  a  few  universities  in  our  system 

17 

you're  serious  about  what  you  do,  and  we  do  want  to  hear 

18 

that  have  been  willing  to  sign  a  contract  with  our 

18 

back  from  you  and  from  the  chancellor's  office  about  how 

19 

students  who  want  to  get  through  in  four  years,  and  they 

19 

we  can  move  in  the  same  direction  on  some  of  these 

20 

have  gotten  through  as  long  as  they  have  lived  up  to  the 

20 

crucial  issues  that  were  raised  today.    But  we're  happy 

21 

contract.    Sometimes  students  intend  to  do  something  and 

21 

to  support  your  confirmations,  and  we'll  move  it  to  the 

22 

discover  that  for  one  reason  or  another,  they're  not 

22 

floor  with  the  requisite  number  of  votes. 

23 

able  to  do  what  they  originally  intended  to  do. 

23 

Please  call  the  roll. 

24 

But  we  need  to  move  students  through  our  system 

24 

MS.  BROWN:    Senator  Cedillo. 

25 

as  expeditiously  as  possible  for  a  whole  range  of 

25 

SENATOR  CEDILLO:    Cedillo  aye. 

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1 

reasons.    But  the  profile  of  a  CSU  student  is  much 

1 

MS.  BROWN:    Cedillo  aye. 

2 

different  from  the  profile  of  a  University  of  California 

2 

Dutton. 

3 

student,  which  is  largely  much  more  the  traditional 

3 

Oropeza. 

4 

18-year-old  freshman  entering  college.   That's  not  the 

4 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Aye. 

5 

situation  in  the  CSU,  and  it  reflects  the  changes  in  our 

5 

MS.  BROWN:    Oropeza  aye. 

6 

population. 

6 

Aanestad. 

7 

SENATOR  AANESTAD:    Thank  you. 

7 

SENATOR  AANESTAD:    Aye. 

8 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    All  right.   Thank  you  very 

8 

MS.  BROWN:    Aanestad  aye. 

9 

much,  Senator  Aanestad. 

9 

Steinberg. 

10 

Are  there  witnesses  in  support  here? 

10 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Aye. 

11 

Come  on  up,  sir. 

11 

MS.  BROWN:    Steinberg  aye. 

12 

MR.  AYALA:    Absolutely. 

12 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you  very  much. 

13 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    You  might  want  to  take 

13 

We'll  keep  the  roll  open  for  Senator  Dutton, 

14 

that  mic,  if  you  don't  mind. 

14 

and  we'll  move  the  nominations  to  the  floor. 

15 

MR.  AYALA:    Sure.    Mr.  Chairman,  Members  of  the 

15 

Thank  you  both  very,  very  much. 

16 

Committee,  my  name  is  Joel  Ayala.    I'm  the  CEO  for  the 

16 

MR.  MENDOZA:   Thank  you. 

17 

California  Hispanic  Chambers  of  Commerce  representing 

17 

MR.  HAUCK:    Thank  you. 

18 

60-plus  Hispanic  Chambers  of  Commerce,  720,000 

18 

(Recess  taken.) 

19 

Hispanic-owned  businesses. 

19 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    We're  back  in  order. 

20 

I've  known  Henry  for  over  20  years  now,  and 

20 

I  would  like  to  call  Hadi  Makarechian,  who's  up 

21 

Mr.  Hauck  by  reputation  only,  but  I  applaud  the 

21 

for  confirmation  as  a  regent  to  the  University  of 

22 

governor's  selections  today.   And  it's  been  brought 

22 

California. 

23 

forth  in  front  of  you.   A  lot  of  talk  has  been  going 

23 

Mr.  Makarechian,  welcome  to  you,  sir. 

24 

around  about  the  value  of  education,  and  Mr.  Chairman 

24 

MR.  MAKARECHIAN:    Thank  you. 

25 

got  it  right  in  that  the  value  of  education  lies  only  in 

25 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you  for  your 

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patience  today.    I  hope  you  were  sitting  in  the  --  you 
know,  in  the  soundproof  booth  back  there,  that  you 
didn't  hear  all  the  questions  we  asked  of  the  other 
nominees,  but  I'd  like  to  welcome  you. 

Is  there  anyone  you  want  to  introduce  here 
today? 

MR.  MAKARECHIAN:   Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman,  and 
thank  you,  Senators.   Yes.    My  wife  of  37  years, 
Barbara. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Wow!    Welcome  to  you. 
Glad  you're  here. 

MR.  MAKARECHIAN:    Some  people  say  she's  my 
second  wife,  but  really  she's  my  first  wife. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Uh-oh,  you  might  be  in 
trouble.    I  think  that  was  a  compliment. 

So  welcome  to  you.    Would  you  like  to  make  an 
opening  statement  here  about  --  Again,  what  we're 
looking  for,  is,  you  know,  your  passion  why  you  want  to 
do  this.    It's  a  ten-year  term.   It's  a  very  long  term, 
so  please  — 

MR.  MAKARECHIAN:   Yes.   Thank  you  very  much, 
Mr.  Chairman,  and  thank  you,  Senators. 

I  came  to  this  country  when  I  was  16  years  old 
as  a  foreign  student,  and  at  the  time  I  didn't  know  much 
about  United  States.    But  I  learned  English  back  in  my 

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1  produces  three  inventions  per  day.   That's  the  engine  of 

2  the  economy  for  this  state  as  well  as  the  nation. 

3  So  it  would  be  an  honor  for  me,  if  confirmed, 

4  to  be  part  of  this  university  and  serve  the  public  and 

5  be  a  trustee  of  the  people  of  California. 

6  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you,  sir. 

7  Senator  Oropeza  and  Senator  Cedillo  aren't  here 

8  either. 

9  Senator  Dutton,  do  you  have  any  questions? 

10  SENATOR  DUTTON:    No. 

11  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Well,  we  had  an 

12  opportunity  to  meet  before,  and  I  really  appreciated  the 

13  time.   And  we  explored  some  of  the  areas  that  we've 

14  discussed  with  the  nominees  for  the  CSU  trustees  and  the 

15  Community  College  Board  of  Governors,  and  I  really  want 

16  to  ask  you  the  same  question. 

17  How  can  the  University  of  California  be  more 

18  collaborative  than  it  already  is  with  the  other  systems, 

19  especially  the  K-12  system? 

20  MR.  MAKARECHIAN:    Well,  I  understand  that 

21  that's  one  of  the  most  important  parts  of  the 

22  university,  would  be  to  be  able  to  share  their 

23  experience  on  education,  because  after  all,  every  one  of 

24  them  is  in  the  same  business  of  educating  and  — 

25  although  their  missions  are  slightly  different.   Whereas 

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country  and  came  in  with  limited  resources,  because  of 
the  restrictions  on  transfer  of  currency  from  my  country 
to  the  United  States,  so  I  had  to  work  my  way  through 
painting  houses  and  tending  bars.   And  I  want  to  tell 
you,  tending  bars  was  more  fun  than  painting  houses.   It 
gave  me  much  more  experience  in  understanding  people. 

But  toward  my  experience  in  the  public 
sector  --  in  the  private  sector,  I  always  wanted  to  be 
of  service  to  the  community,  and  I've  always  been 
involved  with  nonprofit  foundations,  as  well  as  I  served 
on  the  board  of  trustees  of  Chapman  University  when 
Chapman  University  was  very  small,  and  I  served  on  the 
real  estate  committee  where  my  experience  was  --  I've 
been  developing  many,  many  different  projects  all  over 
15     the  United  States,  so  I  always  give  back  to  the  society. 

And  one  of  the  reasons  I  wanted  to  be  part  of 
the  —  This  university  is  the  best  in  the  world,  best 
public  university  in  the  world,  and  perhaps  as  good  as 
any  of  the  private  universities.   Certainly,  when  you 
look  at  the  professors  and  the  faculty,  they've  won  57 
Nobel  Prizes,  and  the  university  system  has  the  largest 
number  of  recipients  of  medals  in  science,  and  it's  the 
forefront  of  any  of  the  research,  and  highest  number  of 
patents  in  the  United  States  is  received  by  the 
university,  as  well  as  on  the  average,  the  university 

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1  the  University  of  California  is  mostly  --  the  mission  is 

2  on  teaching,  research,  and  public  service,  but  the 

3  public  service  and  the  teaching  part  is  always  the  same. 

4  So  the  research  may  be  different  in  the 

5  University  of  California  system  than  the  CSU  and  the 

6  community  colleges,  but  cultivating  the  students  from 

7  preschool,  bringing  them  up  to  the  university  system, 

8  the  community  colleges,  or  the  CSU  system,  is  one  of  the 

9  most  important  things.   They  have  to  have  some  sort  of 

10  collaboration.   And  I  know  that  President  Yudof,  since 

11  he  became  president,  periodically  --  and  I  think  on  a 

12  regular  basis  meets  with  Chancellor  Reed  and  Chancellor 

13  Scott  in  just  going  over  the  past  practices. 

14  And  I  know  that  the  CTE  courses  is  your 

15  passion,  and  making  sure  that  we're  all  working  on  the 

16  same  side  of  the  issues,  preparing  the  students  to  get 

17  ready  for  the  career,  as  well  as  getting  ready  for 

18  the  --  being  educated  at  the  university  system  is  one  of 

19  the  most  important  things.   And  in  this  day  and  age,  I 

20  don't  think  that  they  should  be  wasting  any  time.    So 

21  communication  between  the  universities  are  one  of  the 

22  most  important  parts. 

23  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    What  is  your  view  on  the 

24  issue  of  executive  compensation  and  the  University  of 

25  California? 

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MR.  MAKARECHIAN:    My  --  I  come  in  from  the 
private  sector,  obviously.   I  was  CEO  of  a  public 
company,  and  one  of  the  most  important  things,  I  think, 
is  transparency  and  communication  with  the  general 
public,  and  also  the  legislature,  as  to  how  the 
university  sets  standards  for  hiring  and  compensation. 

I  know  that  in  the  past,  there  have  been  some 
problems  in  that  respect,  that  the  information  wasn't 
communicated  well,  but  I  know  that  that  has  changed. 
The  university  now,  when  they  want  to  hire  anybody,  they 
put  it  on  the  Web  site  prior  to  actual  hiring  anybody, 
and  also  they  go  through  extensive  research  as  --  with 
the  search  committee. 

But  overall,  the  university's  trying  to 
maintain  its  standard  of  being  the  best  in  the  world, 
has  to  be  competitive.   And  I  know  recently,  there's 
been  some  negative  publicity  on  hiring  Chancellor 
Hellmann  and  also  Chancellor  Katehi  at  $450,000  and 
$400,000.    Chancellor  Hellmann  was  hired  at  $450,000, 
but  we  have  to  understand  that  she  came  from  the  private 
sector,  from  Genentech,  and  she  was  making  $1.6  million 
per  year.   And,  in  fact,  she  changed  to  come  and  do 
public  service. 

Each  of  these  chancellors  are  running  very, 
very  large  organizations.    Both  of  those  schools  have 

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1  it's  private  universities  or  public  universities, 

2  especially  in  the  private  side,  they  pay  much,  much 

3  more,  and  they  tend  to  take  a  lot  of  the  —  the  best  of 

4  the  best  from  the  universities. 

5  But  the  U.C.  system  has  been  able  to  really 

6  attract  some  of  the  best  of  the  best  in  the  world  at 

7  much  lower  prices.   If  you  look  at  the  accountability 

8  report  that  President  Yudof  has  put  in  place  that  I 

9  think  it's  going  to  be  presented  to  the  chancellors  in 

10  September,  but  I've  seen  some  of  the  preliminary 

11  reports,  the  university,  the  staff  level  as  well  as  the 

12  executives,  on  the  average  pays  15  percent  less  than 

13  their  comp  stat,  which  is  about  14  universities  — 

14  private  and  public  universities  in  the  United  States. 

15  So  in  that  respect,  they've  been  very  successful. 

16  Again,  maybe  it's  because  of  the  prestige  of 

17  the  university.    Some  people  will  prefer,  as  an 

18  example  —  prefer  --  As  an  example,  Chancellor  Hellmann 

19  came  into  UCSF  at  a  much  lower  salary.    It's  just  the 

20  prestige  and  public  service  side  that  would  take  that 

21  cut  and  come  in.   That's  been  one  of  the  indicators  of 

22  attracting  people. 

23  But  if  it  was  regulated,  I  think  —  for 

24  instance,  if  you  pass  regulations  and  you  can't  pay 

25  anybody  over  $200,000,  I'm  not  sure  what  would  happen. 

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medical  schools,  and  the  average  salary  for  medical 
school  —  the  average  salary  for  schools  with  medical 
schools  nationwide  is  about  $628,000.    So  when  you  look 
at  the  chancellors'  salaries,  they  are  well  below  the 
market. 

And  so  I  think  we  have  to  be  competitive,  but 
in  this  day  and  age,  everybody  has  to  go  to  the  best,  to 
get  the  best  people  at  the  lowest  price  that  is 
possible. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Let's  open  it  up. 
Senators. 

SENATOR  CEDILLO:    What  happens  if  you  don't? 
If  we  lock  you  into  a  set  salary  --  We're  not  sitting 
where  you're  sitting  to  make  the  decision  on  all  the 
other  factors,  the  competitiveness  of  the  field.    What 
are  the  dangers  to  the  system  if  we  do  not  support  your 
efforts? 

MR.  MAKARECHIAN:    You  mean  what  happens  if  we 
don't  hire  them  at  the  levels  that  is  necessary? 

SENATOR  CEDILLO:    If  we  encumber  you  and  we 
limit  you,  what  happens? 

MR.  MAKARECHIAN:    Obviously,  you  get  what  you 
pay  for.   That's  obvious.    Especially  when  all  these 
chancellors,  all  these  people  that  you  hire,  they  could 
go  anywhere  in  the  world,  and  now  there's  --  whether 

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1  You  would  slowly  see  the  slide  and  all  the  innovations 

2  and  the  engine  of  the  economy  -- 

3  If  you  look  at  the  U.C.  system,  biotech,  for 

4  instance,  started  at  the  U.C.  system.    Seventy-five, 

5  80  percent  of  all  the  people  that  work  in  the  biotech 

6  industry  are  graduates  or  somehow  related  to  the  U.C. 

7  system. 

8  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Let's  follow  up.    You 

9  know,  I  don't  want  to  get  overly  philosophical  here.    I 

10  do  think  that  --  Greg  and  I  --  Mr.  Schmidt  --  were  just 

11  whispering  to  each  other  about  sort  of  the  difficult 

12  balance  here,  and  he  reminded  me  that  really  what's 

13  happened  over  the  years  with  the  U.C.  in  some  ways  is 

14  that  it's  moved  from  sort  of  pure  public  service  to  more 

15  entrepreneurial.    I  mean  -- 

16  And  maybe  we,  as  elected  officials,  are  a  tiny 

17  bit  sensitive  on  this  issue  ourselves  here.   We  ought  to 

18  admit  that  --  you  know,  that  bias  a  little  bit.    But  you 

19  can  say  what  you  just  said  about  really  most  any  form  of 

20  public  service,  that,  you  know,  there  are  legislatures 

21  here  that  could  be  making  a  million  dollars  a  year,  a 

22  couple  hundred  thousand  dollars  a  year,  or  whatever. 

23  You  could  say  the  same  thing  about  other  particular 

24  public  services,  and  yet  people  choose  the  public 

25  service  because  there  are  other  rewards.   There  are  the 

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psychic  rewards;  there  are  the  rewards  of  being  able  to 
give  something  back. 

So  I  —  you  know,  we  wrestle  a  little  bit  with 
the  need  to  be  competitive,  as  you  say,  but  why 
should  --  If  the  University  of  California  is  the  place 
that  is  so  well  respected  and  heralded  as  a  place  that 
you  would  want  to  work,  why  is  it  that  if  we  limited 
salaries  to  $200,000,  as  an  example,  that  there  would  be 
some  great  brain  drain?  That  may  be  true,  it  may  be  the 
reality,  but  that  troubles  me.    And  I  know  that's  sort 
of  --  we're  getting  philosophical  here,  but.... 

MR.  MAKARECHIAN:  I'm  not  sure  that  the 
university  has  lost  its  public  service  side,  because  if 
you  look  at  the  services  that  the  university  provides  -- 

The  university  is  the  fifth  largest  healthcare 
organization  in  the  United  States.   It's  the  largest  in 
California,  and  it  provides  the  public  —  3.6  million 
people  go  to  the  clinics,  and  majority  of  those  are  the 
underrepresented  or  low-income  families.    So  that's  on 
the  healthcare  side. 

If  you  look  at  the  agriculture,  the  university 
has  created  some  of  the  best  public  service  on  the 
agriculture.    So  the  university  operates  close  to  100 
libraries.   That's  33  million  books,  larger  than  the 
Library  of  Congress.   And  most  of  the  people  --  most  of 

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1  SENATOR  OROPEZA:    I  think  --  You  know,  I 

2  understand  what  you're  saying.   I  think  U.C.  has  done  a 

3  lousy  job  at  developing  a  public  perception  or 

4  understanding  of  the  rationale,  and  I  think  that  in  some 

5  cases  has  made  it  the  excuse  for  a  little  bit  of 

6  overcompensation,  in  my  view,  but  I  do  hear  your  point. 

7  I  would  like  to  see  the  U.C.  do  a  better  job  at 

8  explaining,  if  you  need  to  pay  somebody  a  premium,  then 

9  why  is  it  that  you  have  to  pay  that  person  a  premium, 

10  because  I  think  if  you  did  more  of  that,  then  you  might 

11  get  at  what  the  chair  is  calling  for  a  little  more,  and 

12  that  is:    What  is  the  value  that  they  are  not  getting 

13  that  a  lot  of  us  public  servants  get,  and  what  are  they 

14  now  getting  that  has  to  fill  up  that  piece  of  their 

15  salary  with  money,  you  know? 

16  But  you  should  do  a  better  job,  I  think.   I 

17  think  it's  one  of  the  big  problems  of  the  U.C,  and  it 

18  becomes  a  problem  for  all  of  us  as  well  up  here  when  we 

19  really  don't  have  a  good  answer. 

20  MR.  MAKARECHIAN:   Yes,  I  agree  with  you.    In 

21  fact,  I'll  be  discussing  just  that,  the  communications 

22  with  outside.    In  fact,  what  they  have  done  recently,  as 

23  I  said,  putting  the  potential  hirees  on  the  Web,  and 

24  explaining  their  position  and  the  comp  stat  that  they 

25  have,  compensation,  so  that  everybody  can  see  it. 

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the  people  don't  know  this,  that  the  university  is 
providing  all  those  libraries  that's  free  to  the 
majority  of  --  to  all  of  California. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Why  should  we  have  to  pay 
people  exorbitant  salaries  to  be  part  of  that  wonderful 
environment  and  that  wonderful  service? 

MR.  MAKARECHIAN:    I  guess  it's  return  on 
investment.   If  you  look  at  what  they  give  back  for  what 
they  get  paid  for  —  for  instance,  the  Chancellor 
Hellmann  is  an  example.    At  Genentech,  she  was  making 
$1.6  million.    Was  she  returning  that  much  to  that 
company?   Obviously,  yes. 

You  could  pay  somebody  much  less  salary  to  run 
a  large  organization  like  UCSF,  which  is  about 
$3.3  billion  organization  --  $3.3  billion  organization, 
and  if  that  chancellor  made  a  slight  mistake  of  even  a 
million  dollars,  that's  a  huge  --  if  she  saved  just  a 
million  dollars,  she  made  her  salary.    And  I'm  sure  she 
would  make  much  better  decisions  for  the  future  that 
would  bring  back  a  multiple  of  the  salary  that  she's 
making. 

I  don't  know  if  I've  answered  your  question.    I 
guess  it's  an  investment. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    I  don't  want  to  get  too 
much  in  the  weeds,  but  -- 

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1  And  also,  now,  all  of  the  --  all  of  the  senior 

2  management  goes  through  the  board  for  further  approval. 

3  Anybody  over  $237,000  gets  an  approval  by  the  board. 

4  And  all  of  those  board  meetings  are  open  except  for 

5  certain  candidates  where  they  don't  want  to  disclose 

6  that  they  may  be  leaving  their  jobs  from  fear  of  being 

7  fired  from  their  existing  positions.    Except  for  those, 

8  almost  every  one  of  the  discussions  is  open  to  the 

9  general  public. 

10  SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Is  that  new? 

11  MR.  MAKARECHIAN:   That's  very  new,  yes. 

12  SENATOR  OROPEZA:   That's  a  good  step. 

13  MR.  MAKARECHIAN:    I'm  a  recent  regent.    But,  as 

14  I  said,  I'm  coming  from  the  public  company  side.    I  used 

15  to  be  CEO  of  a  public  company,  so  I  understand  that  the 

16  more  information  you  give  to  the  general  public,  the 

17  less  it  is  you  have  to  explain  and  the  less  it  is  that 

18  they  blame  you. 

19  SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Absolutely  true.    Absolutely 

20  true. 

21  If  there  is  a  legitimate  reason,  you  put  that 

22  explanation  out  there.   You're  going  to  be  much  better 

23  off  than  doing  it  the  other  way. 

24  Can  I  ask  a  question  about  something 

25  different  -- 

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CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Sure  can. 

1 

said,  up  to  181,000.   Obviously,  you  can't  have 

2 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    —  or  do  you  want  to  — 

2 

100  percent  of  the  fees  to  be  going  back,  because  then 

3 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    No,  no,  no,  but  let's  wrap 

3 

the  fee  increases  doesn't  do  anything.   But  30  percent 

4 

it  up  if  we  can. 

4 

of  the  fee  increases  goes  back  to  the  student  fee  aids. 

5 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    All  right. 

5 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:   Thank  you. 

6 

Can  I  ask  about  the  Blue  and  Gold  plan  and 

6 

Thank  you,  Mr.  Chair. 

7 

if  there  --  which  is  the  program  where  if  the  family 

7 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Of  course. 

8 

makes  less  than  60,000,  that  they  basically  get  their 

8 

Witnesses  in  support?   Witnesses  in  opposition? 

9 

tuition  and  fees  covered,  which  I  think  is  a  great 

9 

All  right.    Mr.  Makarechian,  I  think  you're  a 

10 

policy.    I  think  it's  a  great  step  forward. 

10 

very  thoughtful  person,  and  you  obviously  have  taken 

11 

Is  there  any  other  initiatives  like  that  about 

11 

this  seriously,  and  I'm  confident  that  you  will  take  the 

12 

providing  access  for  people  --  for  students  of  lesser 

12 

responsibility  of  being  a  regent  seriously  as  well. 

13 

means  but  high  academic  standards  to  come  into  the 

13 

I'd  like  to  say  here  that  the  confirmation 

14 

system? 

14 

process,  hopefully,  isn't  the  end  of  your  relationship 

15 

MR.  MAKARECHIAN:    Yes.    When  -- 1  think  it  was 

15 

with  the  legislature,  but,  in  fact,  the  beginning  of  a 

16 

my  second  meeting  at  the  Regents  when  the  issue  of 

16 

relationship.   So  we  would  urge  you  to,  again,  be 

17 

raising  the  student  fees  came  up  to  the  board,  and  there 

17 

outspoken  and  to  be  communicative  with  us  as  we  face  the 

18 

was  extensive  discussion  as  to  what  segment  of  the 

18 

challenges  ahead. 

19 

students  were  being  affected  by  these  fee  increases,  and 

19 

MR.  MAKARECHIAN:    You  have  my  promise. 

20 

how  they  could  afford  to  pay  for  it. 

20 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Thank  you. 

21 

One  of  the  most  important  part  of  the 

21 

I'll  take  a  motion  on  the  nomination. 

22 

discussion  of  raising  the  fees  was:    Let's  make  sure 

22 

Moved  by  Senator  Aanestad. 

23 

that  majority  of  the  students  get  their  increases 

23 

MS.  BROWN:    Senator  Cedillo. 

24 

covered.    Now,  the  increases  get  covered  by  the  Pell 

24 

SENATOR  CEDILLO:    Aye. 

25 

grants  and  also  the  Cal  grants.    Now,  the  Cal  grants,  I 

25 

MS.  BROWN:   Cedillo  aye. 

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96 

1 

know  the  governor  and,  hopefully,  the  legislature  will 

1 

Dutton. 

2 

not  cut  that. 

2 

Oropeza. 

3 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Well,  funny  you  mention 

3 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Aye. 

4 

it. 

4 

MS.  BROWN:    Oropeza  aye. 

5 

MR.  MAKARECHIAN:    But,  hopefully,  that's  not 

5 

Aanestad. 

6 

cut.    But  we  think  the  Pell  grant  and  the  Cal  grant,  and 

6 

SENATOR  AANESTAD:    Aye. 

7 

also  the  Blue  and  Gold,  and  the  tax  credit,  we  were 

7 

MS.  BROWN:    Aanestad  aye. 

8 

assured  that  families  that  make  up  to  $180,000  per  year 

8 

Steinberg. 

9 

combined,  you  know,  husband  and  wife,  per  family,  which 

9 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Aye. 

10 

is  about  81  percent  of  the  citizens  of  California,  they 

10 

MS.  BROWN:    Steinberg  aye. 

11 

get  absolutely  zero  fee  increases.   So  the  fee  increases 

11 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    We'll  keep  the  roll  open 

12 

really  affects  the  families  —  And  it's  not  fair  to  say 

12 

again  for  Senator  Dutton,  but  your  nomination  will  pass 

13 

that  families  who  make  $185,000,  they  don't  have  any 

13 

to  the  floor  of  the  State  Senate.    It  will  be  taken  up 

14 

obligations.  They  probably  have  the  fixed  mortgages, 

14 

soon. 

15 

they  have  the  car  payments  and  all  that  stuff,  and  it 

15 

MR.  MAKARECHIAN:    Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman. 

16 

affects  them. 

16 

Thank  you,  Senators. 

17 

But  at  least  majority  of  the  students,  which 

17 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you  very,  very  much. 

18 

is,  I  think,  about  70  percent  of  the  students  at  the 

18 

We  really  appreciate  it. 

19 

U.C.  system,  they  get  some  sort  of  a  student  aid.   And 

19 

(Thereupon,  the  Senate  Rules  Committee  hearing 

20 

that's  up  to  about  $10,000  per  year.    So  those  families 

20 

adjourned  at  4:39  p.m.) 

21 

are  all  covered  up  to  $180,000.   And  that's  81  percent 

21 

22 

of  the  families  —  the  citizens  of  California. 

22 

23 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    But  you're  not  looking  at  new 

23 

-o0o-- 

24 

approaches.  That  feels  like  it  fills  up  the  gap? 

24 

25 

MR.  MAKARECHIAN:    That  fills  the  gap,  as  I 

25 

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Geoffrey  L.  Baum  fo&spo  oSC& 

California  Community  Colleges  Board  of  Governors 

Senate  Rules  Committee  Confirmation  Hearing  Question  responses 

May  26,  2009 


1.       Please  provide  a  brief  statement  outlining  the  goals  you  hope  to  accomplish  while 
serving  as  a  member  of  the  Board  of  Governors.  How  will  you  measure  your  success? 

It  is  an  honor  to  work  on  behalf  of  students  and  communities  across  the  state  as  a  member  of  the 
California  Community  Colleges  Board  of  Governors  and  at  Pasadena  City  College,  where  I  have 
served  as  an  elected  trustee  since  2001. 

My  father  is  an  immigrant.  He  came  to  this  country  without  knowing  English.  He  grew  up 
sleeping  on  a  sofa  in  a  one-bedroom  apartment  in  a  working  class  part  of  New  York  where  his 
father  worked  in  a  restaurant.  Fortunately,  my  dad  found  a  technical  college,  Brooklyn  College 
of  Pharmacy,  and  found  a  career  that  enabled  him  to  support  our  family. 

My  mother  grew  up  in  the  Midwest.  She  was  married  and  divorced  at  20.  She  married  again, 
divorced  and  was  a  single  mom  with  two  sons  at  28.  She  married  my  dad  a  year  later  and  had 
two  more  kids.  (Thankfully,  they're  still  together.) 

She  loved  learning,  but  her  life  situation  did  not  enable  her  to  go  to  college  until  the  family 
moved  to  Southern  California  in  the  early  1960s.  In  Orange  County,  she  found  the  local 
community  college,  Golden  West  College.  Once  she  had  access  to  a  college  education,  there  was 
no  stopping  her.  She  enrolled  in  classes  and  pursued  her  educational  dreams. 

With  an  earnest  desire  to  serve  and  gratitude  for  the  opportunities  they  had  been  given,  my 
parents  both  got  involved  in  politics.  My  dad  was  elected  mayor  of  our  hometown.  Years  later, 
my  mom  was  elected  to  the  Coast  Community  College  District  Board  of  Trustees. 

That  is  the  environment  in  which  I  was  raised.  I  have  seen  firsthand  the  power  of  education  to 
transform  lives.  And  I  see  it  every  day  on  the  campus  of  Pasadena  City  College  and  at  campuses 
across  the  state. 

With  nearly  3  million  students,  ours  is  the  largest  system  of  higher  education  in  the  world.  The 
Board  of  Governors  sets  policy  and  provides  guidance  for  the  72  districts  and  1 10  colleges  which 
constitute  the  system.  We  establish  accountability  standards,  monitor  performance  and  are  the 
entity  that  formally  interacts  with  state  and  federal  officials. 

We  also  select  a  chief  executive  for  the  system.  Our  new  state  chancellor  is  former  PCC 
president  and  California  State  Senator  Jack  Scott  and  I  am  doing  everything  I  can  to  support  his 
work  guiding  the  statewide  system. 

Much  of  my  focus  is  on  the  economy.  With  record  levels  of  unemployment,  home  foreclosure, 
and  business  failure,  the  demand  for  education  and  training  has  never  been  greater.  Working 


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Geoffrey  L.  Baum 

California  Community  Colleges  Board  of  Governors 

Senate  Rules  Committee  Confirmation  Hearing  Question  responses 

May  26,  2009 


closely  with  my  colleagues  on  the  Board  of  Governors,  I  support  the  role  of  community  colleges 
as  the  state's  Economic  Recovery  Centers. 

As  with  any  disaster,  members  of  our  community  must  have  access  to  resources  and  support  in 
order  to  recover  from  this  current  crisis  and  get  our  economy  moving  again. 

One  paradox  is  that  we  know  where  the  jobs  are.  And  we  have  outstanding  students  eager  to  get 
the  training  and  skills  for  new  careers.  But  there  is  a  shortage  of  access.  We  will  continue  to 
serve  as  many  students  as  we  can  with  the  resources  we  have  and  hope  we  can  find  ways  to  serve 
the  avalanche  of  newly  displaced  workers  who  need  help. 

Through  my  service  on  the  Board  of  Governors,  I  hope  to  be  an  effective  advocate  for  California 
Community  Colleges,  maintain  and  strengthen  the  system  of  accountability  that  builds  public 
trust,  and  work  effectively  with  our  partners  in  the  system — faculty,  staff,  administrators, 
students  and  others — to  expand  access  to  affordable,  high-quality  instruction,  especially  during 
this  time  of  economic  crisis. 

I  will  measure  success  by  the  number  of  students  we  serve,  the  success  of  students  in  completing 
courses  with  passing  grades,  the  number  of  programs  offered  by  colleges  to  respond  to  needs  in 
their  communities,  the  number  of  certificates  awarded  in  career  and  technical  education 
programs  and  the  number  of  students  who  are  prepared  and  successfully  transfer  to  the 
University  of  California,  California  State  University  and  California's  independent  colleges  and 
universities. 


2.      As  a  board  member,  what  training  have  you  received  for  your  position?  What  conflict-of- 
interest  training  have  you  received?  From  whom  do  you  seek  advice  on  potential 
conflicts? 

I  have  devoted  my  professional  career  and  community  service  career  to  higher  education. 

Since  2001, 1  have  served  as  an  elected  governing  board  member  of  the  Pasadena  Area 
Community  College  District,  which  includes  Pasadena  City  College  (PCC).  For  three  years,  I 
was  a  board  officer  and  served  a  term  as  president.  PCC  is  widely  regarded  among  the  very  best 
community  colleges.  It  ranks  at  or  near  the  top  in  virtually  every  category,  including 

•  Transfer  to  4  year  colleges. 

•  Awarding  of  associates  degrees. 

•  Career  and  technical  education  certificates  awarded. 

In  addition,  I  am  a  member  of  the  leadership  team  at  the  University  of  Southern  California.  From 
2001-2008, 1  was  assistant  dean  of  the  USC  Annenberg  School  for  Communication.  Currently,  I 


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California  Community  Colleges  Board  of  Governors 

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May  26,  2009 


serve  as  managing  director  of  USC's  Center  on  Communication  Leadership  &  Policy.  During  the 
1990s,  I  was  assistant  vice  president  of  Claremont  McKenna  College  in  Claremont. 

As  a  community  college  trustee,  I  participate  annually  in  professional  development  programs 
offered  by  the  Community  College  League  of  California  and  the  Association  of  Community 
College  Trustees.  Workshops  I  have  taken  include  Trusteeship:  Roles  &  Responsibilities  and 
Boardmanship  101-  Focus  on  the  Fundamentals  of  being  an  Effective  Trustee,  both  of  which 
include  a  specific  focus  on  conflicts  of  interest. 

Regarding  potential  conflicts,  I  have  sought  advice  from  the  chancellor  and  the  executive  vice 
chancellor  of  California  Community  Colleges,  the  counsel  of  the  Pasadena  Area  Community 
College  District,  and  the  president  of  the  Board  of  Governors  and  the  president  of  the  Pasadena 
City  College  Board  of  Trustees. 


3.       California's  community  colleges  serve  every  region  of  the  state.  In  a  difficult  economy 
and  at  a  time  of  state  budget  reductions,  how  do  you,  as  a  member  of  the  Board  of 
Governors,  help  the  community  colleges  maintain  their  critical  role  in  California's  higher 
education  system? 

Among  the  several  steps  to  be  taken: 

1.  Be  an  effective  advocate  for  California  Community  Colleges  within  local  communities 
and  with  statewide  and  federal  policymakers 

2.  Support,  maintain  and  strengthen  the  system  of  accountability  that  builds  public  trust 

3.  Work  collaboratively  with  our  partners  in  the  system,  including  faculty,  staff, 
administrative  leadership  and  students 

4.  Support  the  work  of  the  Chancellor  and  the  system  office  to  foster  greater  coordination 
and  collaboration  between  individual  districts  and  across  all  segments  of  education  from 
K-12  to  research  universities. 

5.  Support  the  work  of  the  Foundation  to  raise  private  financial  support  for  California 
Community  Colleges 

6.  Be  honest  in  all  dealings  and  acknowledge  shortcomings  when  warranted. 


4.      Should  there  be  a  long-term  community  college  student  fee  policy?  If  so,  what  should  its 
key  features  be? 


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California  Community  Colleges  Board  of  Governors 

Senate  Rules  Committee  Confirmation  Hearing  Question  responses 

May  26,  2009 


The  mission  California  Community  Colleges  is  to  provide  affordable,  high  quality  instruction  for 
all  Californians  who  seek  access  to  higher  education.  Student  fees  must  not  be  a  barrier  to  access. 

Previous  fluctuations  in  fees  have  placed  a  significant  burden  on  students  and  districts,  with  a 
disproportionate  impact  on  low-income  students. 

I  support  current  policy,  which  directs  that  fees  be  low  and  predictable.  Moreover,  there  must  be 
access  to  financial  aid  that  is  sufficient  to  meet  the  needs  of  students  and  prevent  the  cost  of 
college  from  being  a  barrier  to  access. 

Given  the  current  fiscal  crisis,  I  anticipate  an  increase  in  student  fees.  As  stated  above,  any 
increase  must  be  measured  and  predictable. 


5.       What  are  colleges  doing  to  ensure  that  students  maximize  their  use  of  federal  aid  for 
which  they  are  already  eligible?  How  is  the  board  kept  informed  of  districts'  outreach 
and  technical  assistance  activities  geared  toward  informing  students  of  their  financial 
aid  opportunities?  How  do  you  weigh  in  if  you  believe  more  should  be  done? 

Student  fees  for  community  college  students  in  California  are  the  lowest  in  the  nation  by  a 
significant  margin.  Fees  are  so  low  that  tens  of  millions  in  federal  aid  to  California  has  gone 
unclaimed.  On  the  other  hand,  recent  changes  in  federal  tax  policy  allow  tax  credits  to  be 
claimed  for  books  and  supplies. 

Supplemented  by  annual  state  funding  ($37  million),  districts  provide  counseling  and  conduct 
outreach  campaigns  to  alert  students  about  the  availability  of  financial  aid.  A  portion  of  the  state 
funding  has  also  supported  the  "I  Can  Afford  College"  statewide  media  campaign  organized  by 
the  Chancellor's  Office. 

Among  other  activities,  districts  encourage  students  to  complete  the  Free  Application  for  Federal 
Financial  Aid  (FAFSA).  Currently,  nearly  80  percent  of  students  who  receive  a  Board  of 
Governors  fee  waiver  also  file  the  FAFSA.  Due  to  these  outreach  activities,  California 
participation  in  the  Pell  Grant  program  has  grown  by  30,000  students  (12.6  percent)  in  the  past 
five  years. 

System  office  staff  keep  the  Board  of  Governors  informed  about  students'  access  to  and  use  of 
various  financial  aid  programs.  As  a  Pasadena  City  College  trustee,  I  also  receive  regular  reports 
on  financial  aid  outreach  and  activities  conducted  within  my  district. 


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6.       The  community  college  system  offers  a  variety  of  recreational  and  personal  enrichment 
credit  courses  to  students,  all  funded  at  the  same  per-student  funding  rate  (about  $4,600 
per  full-time  equivalent  student  in  2008-09).  The  Legislative  Analyst's  Office  has 
recommended  reducing  the  funding  for  credit-bearing  physical  education  and 
enrichment  classes  to  the  regular  noncredit  rate.  Given  the  current  budget  limitations, 
what  are  your  views  regarding  this  proposal? 

The  system  and  individual  districts  must  remain  accountable  for  the  funding  received  for 
instruction.  Generally,  credit  courses  are  offered  that  have  specific  links  to  transfer,  degree  or 
certificate  programs.  That  includes  courses  offered  in  physical  education  and  other  divisions  that 
may  be  considered  "recreational"  or  for  "personal  enrichment." 

For  example,  virtually  all  courses  within  Pasadena  City  College's  division  of  Kinesiology, 
Health  and  Athletics  are  rigorous  and  qualify  for  transfer  credit.  Other  courses  are  offered  to  help 
students  pursue  careers  in  growing  employment  sectors,  such  as  physical  therapy  and  sports 
medicine.  In  my  experience,  I  have  found  these  courses  to  also  help  provide  a  well-rounded 
experience  and  foster  student  retention.  There  would  need  to  be  a  careful  examination  of  what 
courses  the  LAO  considers  purely  "recreational  and  personal  enrichment." 


7.       How  does  the  board  monitor  and  determine  whether  community  colleges  are  responding 
to  local  education  and  workforce  training  needs?  In  your  view,  what  policy  initiatives  or 
programs  are  critical  to  supporting  the  capacity  of  community  colleges  to  meet 
California's  workforce  needs? 

The  Board  of  Governors  receives  regular  reports  on  economic  and  workforce  development 
programs  that  measure  progress  based  on  specific  objectives.  This  information  is  also  reported  to 
the  state  legislature.  The  system  also  requires  each  of  the  initiatives  to  conduct  a  Strategic 
Review  every  five  years  to  assess  the  effectiveness  of  the  initiative  and  evaluate  the  need  for 
continuing  funding  and  support. 

Statewide  and  individual  district  performance  is  also  evaluated  annually  through  the 
Accountability  Reporting  for  Community  Colleges  (ARCC),  which  measures  student  progress 
and  achievement  in  vocational,  occupational  and  workforce  development  programs. 

During  the  current  economic  crisis,  we  must  remain  focused  on  providing  access  to  effective 
workforce  training  programs.  The  demand  for  educational  services  has  never  been  greater  as 
Californians  turn  to  community  colleges  as  the  state's  Economic  Recovery  Centers. 

Through  the  Board  of  Governors,  we  need  to  encourage  and  facilitate  access  to  stimulus  funding 
and  other  forms  of  federal  support  for  workforce  development  programs.  We  need  to  continue  to 


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monitor  the  effectiveness  of  various  programs  and  encourage  innovation  in  new  areas  where  we 
anticipate  job  growth. 


8.       Enhancing  relevance  in  education  and  providing  students  multiple  options  for  success 
are  crucial  for  curbing  dropouts  and,  at  the  same  time,  meeting  the  needs  of  our 
economy.  What  is  the  Chancellor's  Office  doing  to  encourage  community  colleges  to 
work  with  their  local  high  schools  to  ensure  that  students  have  increased  access  for 
career  development  and  college  preparation  courses?  What  is  the  Chancellor's  Office 
doing  to  improve  career  pathways  and  linkages  between  K-12  and  community  college 
career  development  programs? 

The  first  goal  articulated  by  the  system  strategic  plan  (adopted  in  2005)  is  COLLEGE 
AWARENESS  AND  ACCESS.  As  the  plan  states,  "Stronger  outreach  to  a  growing  population  is 
critical  to  the  development  of  the  educated  and  talented  workforce  California  needs  to  remain  a 
competitive  economic  leader."  The  first  step  in  achieving  the  goal  is  "Early  Awareness  of 
College  as  a  Viable  Option."  The  chancellor's  office  and  the  system  actively  encourage  early 
awareness  of  the  Community  Colleges  as  an  option  and  the  need  for  K-12  students  and  parents  to 
prepare  for  college  success. 

Mindful  of  past  issues  with  concurrent  enrollment,  the  system  is  examining  ways  to  facilitate 
access  to  college  for  high  school  students,  including  early  to  college  high  school  programs.  The 
system  must  continue  to  encourage  articulation  agreements  that  facilitate  student  access  and  offer 
consistency  across  the  state. 

At  Pasadena  City  College,  we  have  made  it  a  priority  to  work  closely  with  our  K-12  feeder 
districts,  including  the  Pasadena  Board  of  Education,  to  conduct  outreach,  partner  on  broad 
variety  of  educational  programs  and  seek  resources  to  better  serve  students. 


9.       Governor  Schwarzenegger  signed  SB  70  (Scott),  Chapter  352,  Statutes  of  2005,  to  expand 
career  technical  education  (CTE)  instruction  and  enhance  partnerships  between 
secondary  and  postsecondary  CTE  programs.  Please  provide  a  status  update  regarding 
the  CTE  Pathways  Initiative.  How  does  the  board  monitor  progress? 

I  was  honored  to  be  present  for  the  signing  of  SB  70  at  Pasadena  City  College.  The  bill,  authored 
by  Senator  Scott,  provides  a  significant  investment  in  Career  Technical  Education  (CTE)  and 
strengthens  the  partnership  between  community  colleges  and  high  schools  to  improve  and 
expand  CTE  programs  in  California. 


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The  primary  goal  of  the  legislation  is  to  develop  new  programs  and  build  partnerships  between 
California's  K-12  schools  and  community  colleges  so  that  CTE  curricula  are  in  alignment  and  of 
maximum  benefit  to  students. 

The  program  was  funded  at  $20  million  in  2005-06  and  in  2006-07.  In  2007-08  funding  was 
increased  to  $41  million.  In  2008-09  funding  was  $58  million.  Since  the  inception  of  the 
program,  the  total  number  of  grants  awarded  has  increased  to  just  over  400.  Every  region  in  the 
state  has  received  at  least  one  grant. 

The  CTE  Pathways  Initiative  awards  about  200  grants  annually  in  five  broad  categories.  For 
2008-09,  competitive  grants  were  awarded  in: 

•  Career  Planning  and  Development  &  Career  Pathways  and  Articulation  (approximately 
100  projects ) 

•  New  Program  Development  (approximately  55  projects) 

•  Expanding  Business  and  Industry  Engagement  in  CTE  (approximately  10  projects) 

•  CTE  Teacher  Recruitment  and  Professional  Development  (approximately  20  projects) 

•  Capacity  Building  and  Research  and  Evaluation  (1  project) 

Outcomes  to  date  include  hundreds  of  new  courses  and  enrollment  opportunities  for  K-12  and 
community  college  students,  professional  development  for  faculty,  and  re-invigorated  industry 
connections  to  key  occupational  preparation  programs. 

The  Board  of  Governors  receives  regular  reports  from  the  Chancellor  and  system  partners  about 
progress  in  all  aspects  of  career  technical  education. 


10.     There  have  been  reports  that  the  implementation  of  the  SB  70  CTE  funds  have  been 

inconsistent  across  school  districts  and  local  community  colleges.  Have  you  found  this  to 
be  the  case  and,  if  so,  what  can  be  done  to  improve  collaborations  to  expand  CTE 
programs  in  California? 

I  am  not  familiar  with  the  reports  about  inconsistent  implementation  of  SB  70  funds.  However, 
some  districts  may  have  received  earlier  funding  due  to  their  existing  capacity  and  preparation  to 
launch  programs  that  met  the  requirements  of  the  legislation.  Now  that  effective  models  have 
been  identified  and  developed,  districts  across  the  state  are  receiving  funding  to  fulfill  the  intent 
of  the  legislation. 

The  Chancellor's  Office  is  fostering  partnerships  among  K-12,  community  colleges  and  local 
businesses  to  provide  programs  that  meet  the  needs  of  students  and  employers.  These  CTE 
Community  collaboratives  can  be  found  at  districts  across  the  state.  In  a  typical  example,  one 
CTE  Community  collaborative  features  partnerships  among  the  colleges  of  Cerritos,  Compton 


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and  El  Camino  to  develop,  improve,  and  expand  highly  visible,  high  impact  curriculum  that 
provides  opportunity  for  7th  and  8th  grade  students  to  explore  career  technical  education 
pathways  and  programs  including  apprenticeship  in  the  1 5  California  industry  sectors. 

There  must  be  ongoing  review  and  assessment  of  these  programs.  On  balance,  I  believe  the 
program  is  been  a  success.  The  Board  of  Governors  should  continue  to  encourage  active 
partnerships  among  K-12  districts,  employers  and  community  colleges  to  provide  effective 
pathways  to  education,  training  and  employment. 


11.    Recently,  the  state  has  provided  supplemental  funding  for  nursing  programs.  How  is  the 
board  kept  informed  of  the  effect  of  supplemental  funding  on  the  enrollment  and 
retention  of  students  in  community  college  nursing  programs?  What  direction  is  being 
provided  to  local  community  college  districts  regarding  the  sustainability  of  these 
programs  when  supplemental  funding  decreases  oris  eliminated? 

The  Board  receives  reports  from  the  Chancellor  about  the  impact  of  supplemental  funding  on  the 
enrollment  and  retention  of  students  in  nursing  programs. 

Currently,  such  funding  includes: 

•  $22.1  million  of  Proposition  98  funds  in  the  Budget  Act  of  2008 

•  $14  million  to  further  expand  community  college  nursing  slots 

•  $8.1  million  to  provide  diagnostic  and  support  services  to  reduce  student  attrition. 

•  $6  million  ($30  million  over  five-years)  in  federal  Workforce  Investment  Act  (WIA) 
funds 

Enrollments  have  increased  by  nearly  50  percent  over  the  past  four  years  due  to  new  programs, 
expansion  of  enrollment  capacity  through  industry  partnerships,  and  federal-  and  state-funded 
programs  and  grants.  Currently  more  than  13,000  FTE  nursing  students  are  enrolled  at  74 
community  colleges  across  the  state.  61  colleges  received  supplemental  grants  to  expand 
enrollments. 

In  the  current  economic  climate,  every  college  is  making  plans  on  how  to  respond  to  anticipated 
budget  cuts.  Districts  are  encouraged  to  build  public-private  partnerships  to  increase  nursing 
enrollment  capacity  and  develop  alternative  sources  for  supplemental  financial  support. 
However,  this  will  provide  a  fraction  of  the  support  needed  to  sustain  programs  across  the  state. 

One  interesting  development.  At  our  last  Board  of  Governors  meeting,  it  was  reported  that  an 
unanticipated  consequence  of  the  economic  downturn  was  a  slowdown  in  the  rate  of  retirement 
among  nurses.  We  will  monitor  that  possible  trend  and  see  how  it  impacts  the  need  for  expansion 
of  nursing  programs. 


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12.    How  should  the  community  college  system  propose  to  align  its  educational  and  career 
development  programs  with  the  needs  of  the  green  collar  workforce?  Is  this  an  issue 
area  on  which  your  board  provides  guidance?  If  not,  do  you  believe  it  should,  and  how? 

Community  colleges  provide  workforce  training  in  emerging  fields,  including  the  transformation 
of  manufacturing,  construction,  transportation,  trade  and  other  industries  into  "green"  industries. 
Through  grant  funding  and  other  programs,  the  system  will  continue  to  support  district  and 
statewide  efforts  to  develop  and  expand  career  technical  education  programs  for  green  collar 
jobs. 

The  system  should  continue  to  support  federal  funding  for  green  collar  workforce  development 
and  facilitate  local  district  efforts  to  obtain  funding  and  expand  programs. 


13.     The  Legislative  Analyst's  Office  indicates  that  the  American  Recovery  and  Reinvestment 
Act  will  provide  California  with  an  additional  $494  million  in  Workforce  Investment  Act 
funds  for  employment  and  training  purposes.  Community  colleges  will  be  able  to 
compete  for  contracts  to  provide  job  training  and  other  services  to  job  seekers  and 
employers.  Is  the  board  kept  informed  of  districts'  efforts  to  obtain  workforce 
development  funds?  If  so,  how?  Is  the  Chancellor's  Office  providing  direction  to  districts 
in  their  efforts  to  compete  for  funds? 

The  Chancellor,  the  Governor  and  the  Economic  Recovery  Task  Force  have  been  proactive  in 
positioning  community  colleges  to  take  full  advantage  of  the  funding  from  the  American 
Recovery  and  Reinvestment  Act.  The  Chancellor  has  issued  statewide  memoranda  outlining 
opportunities  and  guidance  on  how  to  pursue  funds.  These  messages  have  also  cited  specific 
examples  of  effective  collaborations  and  partnerships  with  local  workforce  investment  boards. 

In  one  example,  on  May  28,  I  am  chairing  the  San  Gabriel  Valley  Federal  Stimulus 
Collaboration  Summit  to  encourage  partnerships  among  local  governments,  public  educational 
institutions,  industry,  non-profit  organizations  and  the  regional  Workforce  Investment  Board. 
Representatives  from  the  Chancellor's  office  will  be  on  hand  to  offer  guidance  and  support  in 
order  to  compete  for  WIA  funds  for  employment  and  training  purposes. 

The  Chancellor  actively  encourages  districts  to  take  advantage  of  funding  opportunities  in  their 
area  so  that  workforce  partners  turn  to  community  colleges  as  the  preferred  training  and 
education  provider. 


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The  Chancellor's  office  provides  reports  to  the  Board  of  Governors  about  progress  and  activities 
in  this  area. 


14.     What  steps  is  the  board  taking  to  ensure  that  more  community  college  students  are 
completing  basic  skills  classes?  How  does  the  board  determine  that  colleges  are  taking 
sufficient  steps  to  track  students'  progress?  Please  provide  us  with  any  data  the  board 
has  on  completion  of  basic  skills  classes. 

Too  many  California  students  lack  basic  skills  needed  to  successfully  complete  college-level 
work.  Basic  skills  education  has  been  a  top  priority  for  the  Board  of  Governors.  It  is  critical  for 
students  to  have  access  to  basic  skills  and  ESL  training  in  order  to  progress  in  any  other  program 
of  higher  education. 

Among  other  steps,  the  Board  supports  the  redirection  of  $33.1  million  toward  efforts  made  by 
colleges  to  achieve  increased  success  of  students  who  need  to  improve  performance  in  ESL 
and/or  basic  skill  areas.  In  order  to  receive  the  funds,  each  college  must  submit  an  Action  and 
Expenditure  Plan  as  well  as  expenditure  reports  throughout  the  year.  The  Chancellor's  Office 
tracks  expenditure  of  funds  allocated  and  reports  to  the  Board  of  Governors. 

Tracking  student  progress  on  a  system-wide  basis  is  conducted  annually  through  the 
Accountability  Reporting  for  Community  Colleges  (ARCC).  The  2009  ARCC  report  provides 
data  on  the  annual  number  of  credit  basic  skills  improvements  and  the  number  of  students 
completing  coursework  at  least  one  level  above  their  prior  basic  skills  enrollment  within  a  three- 
year  period. 

At  our  January  2009  meeting,  the  Board  of  Governors  reviewed  the  system  plan  to  enhance 
accountability  for  basic  skills  education. 

The  expanded  accountability  framework  for  annual  evaluation  of  ESL  &  Basic  Skills  will 
include 

•  Student  headcount  (by  ethnicity,  gender  and  age) 

•  Number  of  sections  of  ESL  and  Basic  skills  offered 

•  Number  of  nonexempt  students  who  are  assessed 

•  Persistence  of  basic  skills  students  from  fall  to  spring  and  fall  to  fall,  and 

•  Student  progress  which  tracks  a  cohort  of  students  over  eight  years  through  ESL  and 
basic  skills  sequences  to  degree  applicable  courses. 

This  additional  data  will  be  available  in  our  next  annual  report. 


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15.     What  strategic  direction  is  the  board  providing  the  Chancellor's  Office  in  dispersing  funds 
specifically  set  aside  for  basic  skills  education?  How  does  the  board  ensure  that  districts 
are  using  these  funds  to  target  the  least-prepared  students? 

The  Board  directs  the  Chancellor's  office  to  follow  Budget  Act  language  regarding  allocation  of 
basic  skills  education  funds  and  the  categories  of  expenditure  that  are  permitted. 

In  order  for  colleges  to  receive  funds,  they  must  submit  an  Action  and  Expenditure  Plan  and 
submit  expenditure  reports  that  indicate  in  which  categories  expenditures  have  been  made. 

Appropriate  categories  of  expenditure  are: 

•  Program  and  curriculum  planning  and  development 

•  Student  assessment,  advisement  and  counseling  services 

•  Supplemental  instruction  and  tutoring 

•  Articulation 

•  Instructional  materials  and  equipment 

The  goal  is  to  support  all  underprepared  students. 

Beyond  budget  disbursement,  the  Chancellor's  Office  needs  to  continue  to  identify  and  promote 
practices  with  demonstrated  high  effectiveness,  such  as  innovative  program  structures,  peer 
support  and  individual  counseling.  The  Chancellor  must  also  take  leadership  to  acquire  funding 
to  implement  the  approaches  necessary  to  reach  students  who  need  basic  skills  education. 


16.     What  is  the  board  doing  to  encourage  colleges  to  work  with  K-12  schools  to  align 

educational  standards,  assessment,  and  course  work  that  will  better  prepare  students 
for  successfully  completing  a  community  college  education? 

As  stated  in  the  system  strategic  plan,  "More  than  half  of  entering  Community  College  students 
require  some  sort  of  basic  skills  education,  due  in  part  to  the  fact  that  K-12  curriculum  and 
assessments  do  not  always  adequately  prepare  students  for  college  level  work.  The  Plan 
recommends  that  College  requirements  be  reflected  in  high  school  curricula,  that  high  school 
students  and  their  parents  have  clear  understanding  of  what  it  takes  to  succeed  in  college,  and 
that  the  Colleges  work  toward  increased  alignment  with  K-12,  noncredit  programs,  and  adult 
schools." 

Early  assessment  is  one  key  step  in  fostering  student  success. 


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In  2007,  the  Board  directed  the  Chancellor  to  work  with  the  appropriate  parties  to  begin  the 
process  of  implementing  a  system-wide  common  assessment  mechanism.  A  report  with 
recommendations  from  the  Consultation  Task  Force  was  delivered  in  2008.  The  Early 
Assessment  Program  is  a  first  step  in  addressing  college  readiness.  The  system  plans  to 
implement  EAP  across  institutions  and  in  coordination  with  the  California  State  University. 

In  addition,  the  Board  supports  California's  participation  in  the  American  Diploma  Project,  a 
national  effort  to  improve  coordination  and  alignment  of  educational  standards  between  K-12 
and  college. 

More  needs  to  be  done  to  strengthen  coordination  between  educational  segments,  including  K-12 
and  four-year  colleges  and  universities. 


17.    Currently,  all  districts  determine  their  own  academic  standards,  which  can  vary  in 
academic  rigor  from  campus  to  campus.  Assessment  and  placement  are  voluntary  as 
well,  as  practiced  at  many  colleges  across  the  system.  Is  the  board  encouraging  colleges 
to  use  the  existing  EAP  tests  to  assess  college  readiness?  Do  you  believe  there  is  a  role 
for  the  board  in  addressing  assessment  and  placement  policies?  If  so,  what  should  it  be? 

One  of  the  great  strengths  of  the  community  college  system  is  that  districts  are  governed  locally. 
At  Pasadena  City  College,  we  have  a  seven  member  board  of  trustees  elected  every  four  years. 
Local  control  means  that  residents  and  employers  have  a  greater  impact  on  the  work  of  local 
colleges  than  any  other  educational  segment.  They  ensure  that  programs  are  offered  that  meet  the 
needs  of  local  communities  in  economic  development  and  educational  access. 

The  need  for  systemwide  standards,  though,  is  apparent.  The  Board  of  Governors  supports 
community  college  participation  in  the  Early  Assessment  Project  initiated  by  California  State 
University  and  California  high  schools. 

As  mentioned  in  the  previous  response,  the  Board  is  focused  on  assessment  and  course 
placement  as  critical  components  of  student  success. 

One  system  task  force  has  endorsed  related  work  being  done  by  the  state  Academic  Senate  to 
pursue  regulatory  changes  that  will  enable  prerequisites  to  be  developed  for  more  content-area 
courses  in  order  to  direct  students  to  successfully  complete  basic  skills  instruction  first. 

The  task  force  is  also  considering  changes  that  would  amend  the  "50%  Law"  (that  requires  at 
least  50%  of  college  revenues  to  be  spent  on  classroom  instruction)  to  enable  colleges  to  increase 
the  number  of  counselors  to  help  students  understand  and  address  their  educational  challenges. 
The  student  to  counselor  ratio  in  the  system  has  been  estimated  at  1,900: 1 . 


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Second  only  to  quality  instruction,  I  strongly  believe  access  to  counseling  is  the  most  important 
factor  in  student  success.  This  is  particularly  true  for  low-income  and  first-generation  college 
students.  The  Board  has  prioritized  additional  funds  for  counseling  in  its  annual  budget  request 
for  the  last  several  years. 


18.    How  does  the  board  evaluate  the  quality  of  student  services  in  its  colleges  that  would 
boost  transfer  rates?  How  can  matriculation  programs  and  counseling  services  better 
target  student  populations  with  the  poorest  outcomes?  What  can  be  done  at  the  board 
level  to  improve  colleges'  efforts  if  the  board  determines  it  is  needed? 

Transfer  readiness  and  increasing  transfer  rates  are  a  priority  of  the  Chancellor  and  the  Board  of 
Governors.  Through  Accountability  Reporting  for  California  Community  Colleges  (ARCC),  the 
Board,  System  and  individual  districts  measure  student  progress  and  achievement  with  transfer 
to  California  State  University,  University  of  California,  in-state  private  and  out-of-state  4  year 
colleges  and  universities. 

Access  to  academic  counseling  is  a  critical  factor  in  student  success.  This  is  particularly  true  for 
low-income  and  first-generation  college  students.  I  have  firsthand  experience  with  this  issue.  At 
USC's  Annenberg  School,  where  I  work,  we  made  a  strategic  decision  to  invest  in  academic 
counseling.  We  require  graduate  and  undergraduate  students  to  develop  an  academic  plan  and 
personally  meet  with  their  advisor  at  least  once  a  semester.  The  results  have  been  successful  and 
the  Annenberg  School  consistently  has  the  top  student  retention  among  schools  at  USC.  This  is  a 
significant  investment  as  we  have  more  than  a  dozen  counselors  for  the  1,800  students  at  USC 
Annenberg. 

Currently,  the  community  college  system  student  to  counselor  ratio  is  estimated  at  1,900:1 .  The 
Board  of  Governors  has  prioritized  additional  funds  for  counseling  in  its  annual  budget  request 
for  the  last  several  years. 

In  addition,  I  support  consideration  of  a  modification  to  the  "50%  Law"  that  would  acknowledge 
the  importance  of  counselors  and  librarians  to  instruction  and  student  success.  We  also  need  to 
develop  and  direct  more  resources  to  student  counseling. 

The  Chancellor's  Office  has  begun  implementation  of  comprehensive  Student  Services  site 
reviews  at  colleges  about  to  undertake  their  self-study  for  accreditation.  The  reviews  are 
conducted  by  peer  teams  that  include  a  Chancellor's  Office  staff  person  and  representatives  of 
several  categorical  programs  (EOPS,  CARE,  DSPS,  CalWORKs  and  Matriculation)  led  by  a 
Chief  Student  Services  Officer. 


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The  reviews  focus  on  the  effective  deployment  of  student  services  on  each  campus  to  coordinate 
with  instruction  and  focus  on  student  success.  The  second  full  year  of  reviews  has  just  been 
completed  and  about  40  colleges  have  now  gone  through  the  process. 


19.     How  is  the  Chancellor's  Office  assisting  community  colleges  in  meeting  the  educational 
and  career  planning  needs  of  veterans  returning  to  college?  In  your  view,  what 
assistance  should  the  Chancellor's  officer  provide?  Do  campuses  have  sufficient 
resources  to  counsel  and  advise  veterans? 

With  the  influx  of  new  veterans  returning  from  the  wars  in  Iraq  and  Afghanistan,  California's 
community  colleges  are  experiencing  increased  veteran  enrollments  statewide.  Many  of  these 
men  and  women  enroll  in  community  college  for  its  open  access,  array  of  educational  pathways, 
and  the  availability  of  support  services  to  help  them  with  their  unique  needs. 

Every  college  has  a  Veterans  Office,  sometimes  within  the  Admissions  Office  and  often  within 
the  Financial  Aid  Office.  With  110  colleges  covering  the  state  geographically,  the  California 
Community  College  System  is  uniquely  positioned  to  assist  veterans  to  prepare  for  and  achieve  a 
successful  post-service  transition  into  civilian  life. 

As  part  of  the  effort  to  help  the  colleges  prepare  for  the  anticipated  increase  in  returning 
veterans,  the  Chancellor  has  been  working  with  various  stakeholder  groups  and  colleges 
throughout  the  state  to  expand  outreach  programs,  academic  advising  and  financial  aid  advising 
to  veterans. 

To  increase  the  system's  understanding  of  serving  veterans  with  disabilities,  the  Chancellor  is 
coordinating  efforts  with  the  California  Association  for  Postsecondary  Education  and  Disability 
(CAPED).  In  addition,  the  Chancellor  has  identified  several  effective  community  college 
programs  that  serve  veterans  and  has  promoted  these  models  to  other  colleges. 

The  System  Office  has  worked  diligently  to  increase  the  colleges'  awareness  of  the  needs  of 
returning  veterans,  establish  statewide  communication  mechanisms,  and  provide  needed 
technical  assistance.  Among  several  steps,  the  Chancellor's  Office  has: 

1.  Established  a  statewide  directory  of  all  Veterans  Certifying  Officials  to  increase 
communication  with  those  who  are  often  the  first  point  of  contact  for  these  populations; 

2.  Developed  a  Troops  to  College  web  page  on  the  System  Office  website; 

3.  Presented  at  conferences  for  California  community  college  administrators  and  student 
service  professionals  on  how  to  best  meet  the  needs  of  these  populations,  including  the 
sharing  of  innovative  practices; 


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4.  Established  a  Veterans  Regional  Representatives  committee  to  advise  the  System  Office 
on  veteran  issues  and  local  college  needs  for  support  and  advocacy; 

5.  Provided  technical  assistance  to  the  colleges  on  the  implementation  of  requirements 
outlined  in  Senate  Bill  272  (Runner,  2008)  that  provides  priority  registration  to  recent 
veterans; 

6.  Increased  the  number  of  students  who  are  using  their  GI  Bill  benefits  to  attend  a 
California  community  college  from  15,600  in  2006  to  16,200  in  2007; 

7.  Participated  in  the  "Hire  a  Hero,  Hire  a  Vet"  effort  to  facilitate  employment  of  veterans 
throughout  California;  and, 

8.  Worked  to  secure  a  federal  earmark  to  help  fund  the  coordination  of  these  efforts  within 
the  California  Community  College  System. 

I  have  witnessed  these  efforts  firsthand  through  programs  at  Pasadena  City  College.  On  May  15, 
2009,  PCC  hosted  "The  Road  Home,"  a  symposium  to  increase  awareness  and  provide  insight 
about  the  unique  issues  facing  veterans  transitioning  from  combat  to  college.  The  program  was 
designed  to  foster  greater  collaboration  among  colleges,  communities  and  veteran  service 
providers. 

By  raising  awareness  of  veteran's  issues  and  needs,  PCC  and  other  colleges  are  better  prepared  to 
facilitate  veteran's  re-entry  to  civilian  and  college  life,  and  create  a  more  supportive  educational 
environment.  The  symposium  was  attended  by  more  than  200  administrators,  faculty  and  staff 
from  a  range  of  academic  disciplines,  counselors  and  staff  from  student  service  programs, 
College  Veteran  Program  coordinators  and  administrators,  Disabled  Student  Service  Program 
staff,  and  instructors  and  coordinators  of  student  success  programs. 

These  activities  undertaken  by  the  Chancellor's  office  have  not  been  sufficiently  funded,  nor  are 
there  enough  resources  to  counsel  and  advise  all  returning  veterans.  We  will  continue  to 
advocate  for  additional  resources  at  the  local,  state  and  federal  level  to  serve  veterans. 


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Board  of  Governors  of  the  California  Community  Colleges 

Responses  by  Scott  Himelstein  to  Questions  by  the  Senate  Rules  Committee 


1 .  Please  provide  a  brief  statement  outlining  the  goals  you  hope  to  accomplish  while 
serving  as  a  member  of  the  Board  of  Governors  (BOG).  How  will  you  measure 
your  success? 

I  want  to  use  my  experience  working  in  the  Governor's  office  and  with  the 
Legislature  to  help  create  policy  and  funding  streams  that  bring  about  a  wide 
range  of  opportunities  for  students  and  benefits  for  California's  economy. 
Specifically,  I  am  interested  in  increasing  the  capacity  and  improving  the  quality 
of  career  and  technical  education  in  our  system.  I  believe  we  need  to  improve  the 
quantity  and  quality  of  our  relationships  with  K-12  education  and  the  business 
sector.  Toward  that  end  I  have  invited  a  coalition  of  California  Chambers  of 
Commerce  to  address  the  BOG  in  the  summer  on  ways  to  further  engage  business 
organizations  to  promote  and  help  resource  career  technical  education.  Now  more 
than  ever  we  need  to  find  ways  to  leverage  resources  both  human  and  monetary  to 
create  seamless  pathways  of  study  and  career  exploration  from  middle  school 
through  community  college  or  other  post  secondary  and  career  options. 

2.  As  a  board  member,  what  training  have  you  received  for  your  position?   What 
conflict-of-interest  training  have  you  received?  From  whom  do  you  seek  advice 
on  potential  conflicts  of  interest? 

I  participated  in  ethics  training  while  a  state  employee  in  the  office  of  the 
Secretary  of  Education.  In  addition,  I  have  received  similar  training  with  my 
current  employer,  the  University  of  San  Diego.  I  also  have  been  counseled  by  the 
Chancellor's  Office  staff  regarding  conflict  of  interest  issues.  If  I  have  a  concern 
regarding  conflict  of  interest  pertaining  to  the  BOG  I  seek  advice  from  the 
Chancellor's  Office  legal  staff. 

3.  In  a  difficult  economy  and  at  a  time  of  state  budget  reductions,  how  do  you,  as  a 
member  of  the  Board  of  Governors,  help  the  community  colleges  maintain  their 
critical  role  in  California's  higher  education  system? 

We  are  in  such  a  difficult  time  economically  that  I  think  my  position  on  the  BOG 
can  best  be  used  to  promote  how  community  colleges  are  a  big  part  of  the  solution 
to  the  current  situation  we  are  in.  We  need  to  communicate  to  the  public  and  those 
that  are  in  need  that  community  colleges  are  where  you  can  turn  for  job  retraining 
and  those  looking  to  upgrade  skills  or  acquire  certification.  As  cost  at  four-year 
universities  continue  to  rise  community  colleges  still  remain  the  most  accessible 
and  affordable  option  for  students  pursuing  higher  education.  Having  been  in  a 
high  profile  position  and  with  excellent  contacts  statewide  I  believe  I  can  be  a 

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considerable  asset  in  accomplishing  this  objective.  The  more  the  public,  business 
and  students  know  about  the  value  community  colleges  offer  the  better  they  will 
be  able  to  maintain  their  critical  role  in  California's  higher  education  system. 

Should  there  be  long-term  community  college  student  fee  policy?  If  so,  what 
should  its  key  features  be? 

I  believe  the  policy  adopted  by  the  BOG  in  1987  and  reaffirmed  numerous  times 
since  is  the  appropriate  policy.  The  community  college  system  was  built  on  the 
premise  that  fees  should  be  low  and  reasonably  predictable  thereby  insuring 
student  accessibility.  The  current  policy  reflects  that  stance  and  provides  the 
opportunity  for  modest  adjustments  as  economic  conditions  change. 

What  are  colleges  doing  to  ensure  that  students  maximize  their  use  of  federal  aid 
for  which  they  are  already  eligible?  How  is  the  board  kept  informed  of  districts ' 
outreach  and  technical  assistance  activities  geared  toward  informing  students  of 
their  financial  aid  opportunities?  How  do  you  weigh  in  if  you  believe  more 
should  be  done? 

The  BOG  strongly  supports  strengthening  financial  aid  information  and  outreach 
to  students. 

With  funding  provided  by  the  state,  colleges  have  improved  their  financial  aid 
outreach  and  delivery.  Since  2003  colleges  have  seen  significant  increases  in 
student  completion  of  the  Free  Application  for  Federal  Financial  Aid  (FAFSA). 
80%  of  students  who  receive  a  BOG  waiver  now  also  file  a  FAFSA.  In  addition, 
participation  in  the  Pell  Grant  program  has  grown  by  12.6  %  over  the  past  five 
years.  10%  of  the  above  mentioned  state  funding  is  used  by  the  system  office  to 
support  the  "I  Can  Afford  College"  statewide  financial  aid  media  campaign  that 
supports  and  complements  local  college  outreach  efforts.  I  think  it  is  important 
that  the  BOG  continue  to  receive  regular  reports  on  the  status  of  these  efforts  and 
that  we  verify  by  questioning  staff,  students  and  administrators  as  to  the  efficacy 
of  our  financial  aid  outreach  programs. 

The  Legislative  Analyst 's  Office  has  recommended  reducing  the  funding  for 
credit-bearing  physical  education  and  enrichment  classes  to  the  regular  noncredit 
rate.   Given  the  current  budget  limitations,  what  are  your  views  regarding  this 
proposal? 

The  magnitude  of  our  fiscal  situation  requires  that  we  look  at  all  the  ways  we  are 
allocating  dollars  for  educational  purposes.  This  specific  recommendation  I 
believe  requires  further  study  as  lowering  the  funding  rate  would  surely  reduce 
the  availability  of  classes  to  students.  Many  PE  courses  are  linked  to  specific 
certificate  and  degree  programs  and  are  included  in  specific  transfer  pathways  that 
lead  into  four-year  programs.  Some  CCC  PE  courses  are  "adaptive'"  and  represent 
significant  training  and  opportunity  for  the  state's  disabled  population.  I  would 


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need  to  better  understand  how  many  students  would  be  affected,  the  number  of 
career  paths  possibly  interrupted,  as  well  as  the  impact  upon  the  disabled  student 
population  before  I  could  endorse  or  oppose  this  recommendation. 

7.  How  does  the  board  monitor  and  determine  whether  community  colleges  are 
responding  to  local  education  and  workforce  training  needs?  In  your  view,  what 
policy  initiatives  or  programs  are  critical  to  supporting  the  capacity  of 
community  colleges  to  meet  California's  workforce  needs? 

Since  workforce  development  and  training  is  such  a  significant  piece  of  what 
community  colleges  provide,  BOG  members  are  regularly  briefed  by  staff.  We 
also  hear  from  various  constituent  groups  about  the  performance  of  the  colleges  in 
this  area.  The  system  Economic  and  Workforce  Development  programs  are 
mandated  to  collect,  report,  monitor  and  evaluate  each  of  the  Industry  Initiatives 
based  on  specific  performance  objectives.  This  information  is  annually  reported  to 
the  Governor  and  the  Legislature.  Policy  initiatives  that  I  believe  are  critical  in 
this  area  include  the  BOG  oversight  of  SB70  dollars  which  require  partnerships 
with  local  business,  K-12  and  higher  education  to  create  pathways  into  the 
workforce  reflecting  local  needs.  The  BOG  should  continue  to  provide  regional 
approval  of  new  programs  based  on  how  well  these  programs  address  labor 
market  demand.  We  should  also  ensure  that  the  Chancellor's  Office  is  continually 
monitoring  emerging  trends  in  workforce  training  and  provide  that  information 
throughout  the  community  college  system.  The  BOG  should  also  reach  out  to  the 
business  community.  To  that  end  I  have  invited  a  coalition  of  California 
Chambers  of  Commerce  to  address  and  interact  with  the  BOG  at  our  next 
meeting.  This  group  is  very  interested  in  working  with  the  BOG  to  find  more 
ways  to  connect  business  and  education  to  increase  the  capacity  and  improve  the 
quality  of  CTE  programs  in  the  state.  I  believe  groups  like  this  can  be  very  helpful 
to  us  in  developing  courses  that  are  relevant  and  provide  opportunities  for 
students  in  the  workforce. 

8.  What  is  the  Chancellor 's  Office  doing  to  encourage  community  colleges  to  work 
with  their  local  high  schools  to  ensure  that  students  have  increased  access  for 
career  development  and  college  preparation  courses?   What  is  the  Chancellor 's 
Office  doing  to  improve  career  pathways  and  linkages  between  K-12  and 
community  college  career  development  programs? 

The  Chancellor's  Office  supports  a  number  of  statewide  projects  specifically 
designed  to  improve  linkages  with  K-12  and  provide  greater  coursework 
relevance  as  a  strategy  for  increasing  student  completion  and  success.  These 
programs  include  the  Academic  Senate's  Career  Pathways  program,  the  Tech 
Prep  program,  Perkins  Leadership  grants  for  program  quality  improvement  and 
Perkins  funding  to  keep  CTE  programs  up-to-date  and  reflective  of  industry 
needs.  SB70  programs  specifically  require  colleges  to  partner  with  their  local 
K-12  districts  in  the  development  of  CTE  coursework  as  well  as  pathway  design. 
However,  I  do  believe  the  BOG  and  Chancellor's  Office  should  take  more  of  a 


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leadership  role  in  providing  support  for  and  encouraging  community  colleges  to 
work  with  their  K-12  partners  in  the  area  of  course  articulation.  We  should  also 
demand  to  the  extent  we  can  that  the  articulation  be  done  in  large  regional  areas 
encompassing  numerous  colleges  and  high  schools  thereby  giving  more  choices 
and  opportunities  for  students.  This  would  also  encourage  economies  of  scale  for 
businesses  partnering  with  our  system. 

9.  Please  provide  a  status  update  regarding  the  CTE  Pathways  Initiative.  How  does 
the  board  monitor  progress? 

Since  inception  of  the  SB70  program  over  400  grants  have  been  awarded  with 
every  region  of  the  state  receiving  at  least  one  grant.  Grants  are  awarded  within 
five  broad  categories  including  Career  Planning  and  Development  and  Career 
Pathways  and  Articulation,  New  Program  Development,  Expanding  Business  and 
Industry  Engagement  in  CTE,  CTE  Teacher  Recruitment  and  Professional 
Development  and  Capacity  Building  and  Research  Evaluation.  The  BOG  receives 
regular  reports  from  staff  on  the  progress  of  these  programs.  I  also  keep  myself 
informed  by  attending  my  local  San  Diego  planning  meetings  of  K-12  and 
community  colleges  partners  to  obtain,  implement  and  evaluate  SB 70  programs  in 
our  area.  Outcomes  to  date  include  hundreds  of  new  courses  and  enrollment 
opportunities  for  K-12  and  CCC  students,  professional  development  for  faculty 
and  new  industry  partnerships. 

1 0.  There  have  been  reports  that  the  implementations  of  the  SB  70  CTE  funds  have 
been  inconsistent  across  school  districts  and  local  community  colleges.  Have  you 
found  this  to  be  the  case  and,  if  so,  what  can  be  done  to  improve  collaborations  to 
expand  CTE  programs  in  California? 

As  with  many  statewide  grant  programs  SB70  implementation  will  vary.  In  my 
short  time  on  the  BOG  I  do  think  the  Chancellor's  Office  does  a  good  job  of 
monitoring  implementation  and  assisting  local  colleges  as  problems  arise. 
However,  I  have  publicly  expressed  concern  that  sometimes  it  appears  that  too 
few  colleges  are  actually  competing  for  SB70  as  well  as  other  grants.  I  have 
encouraged  the  Chancellor's  Office  to  re-double  their  efforts  to  communicate  the 
availability  of  these  opportunities  and  to  provide  technical  assistance  to  colleges 
that  might  lack  grant  development  infrastructure.  I  have  also  suggested  that  our 
system  analyze  what  may  prevent  or  deter  colleges  from  applying  for  SB70  or 
other  grants. 

11.  Recently,  the  state  has  provided  supplemental  funding  for  nursing  programs.  How 
is  the  board  kept  informed  of  the  effect  of  supplemental  funding  on  the  enrollment 
and  retention  of  students  in  community  college  nursing  programs?  What 
direction  is  being  provided  to  local  community  college  districts  regarding  the 
sustainability  of  these  programs  when  supplemental  funding  decreases  or  is 
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The  Chancellor's  Office  keeps  the  BOG  informed  of  the  effect  of  supplemental 
funding  on  the  enrollment  and  retention  of  students  in  community  college  nursing 
programs.  This  is  done  through  reports  to  the  BOG  and  an  annual  report  to  the 
Governor  and  Legislature.  There  are  13,047  students  enrolled  in  74  colleges  that 
operate  registered  nursing  programs.  Enrollments  have  increased  by  about  48% 
over  the  past  3  to  4  years  due  to  the  addition  of  new  programs,  and  expansion  of 
enrollment  capacity  through  partnerships  with  health  care  industry  and  federal  and 
state  funded  programs  and  grants.  The  BOG  strongly  encourages  community 
colleges  to  pursue  additional  funding  opportunities  to  sustain  programs.  Colleges 
are  also  encouraged  to  establish  public/private  partnerships  to  increase  enrollment 
capacity  and  continue  state  of  the  art  instruction. 

12.  How  should  the  community  college  system  propose  to  align  its  educational  career 
development  programs  with  the  needs  of  the  green  collar  workforce?  Is  this  an 
issue  area  on  which  your  board  provides  guidance?  If  not,  do  you  believe  it 
should,  and  how? 

Although  I  believe  the  job  skills  and  educational  needs  of  the  green  collar 
workforce  are  still  being  defined  I  do  believe  this  is  an  area  in  which  the 
community  colleges  have  begun  to  take  a  leadership  role.  An  example  being  the 
alternative  energy  curriculum  being  developed  by  the  Chancellor's  Office  in 
partnership  with  PG&E  and  SDG&E  for  students  interested  in  the  power  and 
utilities  industry.  I  believe  local  college  faculty  have  been  very  aggressive  in  their 
efforts  to  align  educational  and  career  development  programs  with  the  needs  of 
the  green  workforce  in  the  areas  of  transportation,  alternative  fuels  and 
construction  technology.  I  have  seen  terrific  examples  in  my  own  area  of  San 
Diego  where  our  colleges  work  with  the  biotech  industry  on  a  number  of  green 
technology  programs.  The  BOG  has  a  great  opportunity  to  encourage  this 
alignment  through  its  oversight  of  SB70  and  other  CTE/  workforce  development 
grant  funding.  In  consultation  with  faculty  and  others  the  BOG  should  look  to 
make  this  a  priority  where  appropriate. 

13.  Is  the  board  kept  informed  of  districts '  efforts  to  obtain  workforce  development 
funds?  If  so,  how?  Is  the  Chancellor's  Office  providing  direction  to  districts  in 
their  efforts  to  compete  for  funds? 

The  Chancellor  has  issued  three  recent  statewide  information  memoranda  to  all 
the  colleges  and  districts  outlining  the  funding  opportunities  and  guidance 
regarding  how  to  pursue  the  new  funds.  These  communications  also  cited  specific 
best  practice  examples  of  effective  collaborations  and  partnerships  with  the  local 
workforce  investment  boards.  Although  there  may  have  been  briefings  regarding 
district  efforts  to  obtain  workforce  development  funds  prior  to  my  appointment  I 
am  not  as  knowledgeable  about  the  status  as  I  should  be  and  will  seek  current 
information  from  staff. 


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14.  What  steps  is  the  board  taking  to  ensure  that  more  community  college  students 
are  completing  basic  skills  classes?  How  does  the  board  determine  that  colleges 
are  taking  sufficient  steps  to  track  students  'progress?  Please  provide  us  with  any 
data  the  board  has  on  completion  of  basic  skills  classes. 

The  BOG  has  established  as  one  its  highest  priorities  in  the  System's  Strategic 
Plan  making  improvements  in  ESL  and  basic  skills.  The  BOG  supports  the 
redirection  of  $33.1  million  toward  efforts  made  by  the  colleges  to  achieve 
increased  success  of  students  who  need  to  improve  performance  in  ESL  and/or 
basic  skills.  The  BOG  also  approves  an  annual  professional  development  grant  of 
$1 .6  million.  In  order  to  receive  the  funds,  each  college  must  submit  to  the 
Academic  Affairs  unit  and  Action  and  Expenditure  Plan  as  well  as  Expenditure 
Reports  throughout  the  year.  Academic  Affairs  tracks  expenditure  of  funds 
allocated. 

Tracking  student  progress  on  a  system- wide  basis  will  be  conducted  through  the 
required  Framework  for  ESL  and  Basic  Skill  Accountability  which  will  be 
submitted  annually  starting  next  year.  Current  data  regarding  completion  and 
improvement  rates  of  basic  skills  students  are  provided  in  the  annual  ARCC 
report.  The  numbers  of  students  moving  to  higher  levels  from  05/06  to  07/08 
increased  to  89,696.  Reported  on  page  28  of  the  2009  ARCC  report  are  system 
rates  for  college  level  performance  indicators  which  include  those  for  ESL  and 
basic  skills.  Basic  Skills  Course  Completion  07/08  is  60.5%— Basic  Skills  Course 
Improvement  05/06-07/08  is  51.2%. 

15.  What  strategic  direction  is  the  board  providing  the  Chancellor 's  Office  in 
dispersing  funds  specifically  set  aside  for  basic  skills  education?  How  does  the 
board  ensure  that  districts  are  using  these  funds  to  target  the  least-prepared 
students? 

The  Budget  Act  language  specifies  detail  regarding  allocation  of  funds  and  the 
categories  of  expenditure  that  are  permitted,  all  of  which  are  focused  on  making 
improvements  in  ESL  and  basic  skills.  As  stated  previously,  colleges  must  submit 
an  Action  and  Expenditure  Plan.  This  helps  ensure  that  districts  are  using  these 
funds  to  target  the  least  prepared  students.  The  BOG  and  Chancellor's  Office 
have  a  stated  goal  of  targeting  all  under  prepared  students.  In  addition,  the  BOG 
and  Chancellor's  Office  have  worked  closely  with  the  Academic  Senate  in  the 
planning  and  implementation  of  the  Basic  Skills  Initiative.  The  President  of  the 
Academic  Senate  also  provides  the  BOG  with  periodic  updates  regarding  the 
initiative. 

16.  What  is  the  board  doing  to  encourage  colleges  to  work  with  K-12  schools  to  align 
education  standards,  assessment,  and  course  work  that  will  better  prepare 
students  for  successfully  completing  a  community  college  education? 


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The  BOG  supports  the  community  colleges  participation  in  the  American 
Diploma  Project  (ADP)  which  focuses  on  alignment  of  California  high  school 
standards,  establishing  benchmarks,  and  implementation  of  the  Early  Assessment 
Program  (EAP)  as  a  first  step  in  addressing  college  readiness.  Given  that  the  CSU 
has  used  the  EAP  as  an  innovative  and  effective  tool,  the  California  Community 
College  System  has  plans  to  implement  the  assessment  in  a  similar  capacity.  As  I 
stated  in  a  previous  question  I  also  think  the  BOG  should  further  encourage 
colleges  to  better  articulate  courses  with  their  K- 1 2  partners,  particularly  in  the 
area  of  career  and  technical  education  courses.  This  will  better  prepare  students 
for  a  successful  community  college  experience. 

1 7.  Is  the  board  encouraging  colleges  to  use  the  existing  EAP  tests  to  assess  college 
readiness?  Do  you  believe  there  is  a  role  for  the  board  in  addressing  assessment 
and  placement  policies?  If  so,  what  should  it  be? 

The  BOG  supports  SB946  and  community  college  participation  in  the  Early 
Assessment  Project  initiated  by  CSU  and  California  high  schools.  Much  work  is 
underway  and  colleges  will  be  applying  to  participate  this  spring.  I  believe  the 
BOG  should  have  a  role  in  addressing  assessment  and  placement  policies.  The 
BOG  can  prioritize  funding  in  its  annual  budget  request,  consult  and  build 
consensus  with  stakeholders  around  this  issue  and  provide  leadership  in 
encouraging  colleges  to  participate  in  the  Early  Assessment  Program. 

1 8.  How  does  the  board  evaluate  the  quality  of  student  services  in  its  colleges  that 
would  boost  transfer  rates?  How  can  matriculation  programs  and  counseling 
service  better  target  student  populations  with  the  poorest  outcomes?   What  can  be 
done  at  the  board  level  to  improve  colleges '  efforts  if  the  board  determines  it  is 
needed? 

The  BOG  through  the  Chancellor's  Office  has  implemented  comprehensive 
Student  Services  site  reviews  at  colleges  about  to  undertake  their  self  study  for 
accreditation  which  occurs  every  six  year.  The  reviews  focus  on  the  effective 
deployment  of  student  services  on  each  campus  to  coordinate  with  instruction 
and  focus  on  student  success.  The  second  full  year  of  reviews  has  just  been 
completed  and  about  40  colleges  have  now  gone  through  the  process.  The  BOG 
can  and  should  insist  that  services  be  improved  if  they  are  deemed  inadequate  and 
not  as  effective  in  boosting  transfer  rates.  The  BOG  has  prioritized  additional 
funding  for  counseling  in  its  annual  budget  request. 

19.  How  is  the  Chancellor's  Office  assisting  community  colleges  in  meeting  the 
educational  career  planning  needs  of  veterans  returning  to  college?  In  your 
view,  what  assistance  should  the  Chancellor 's  Office  provide?  Do  campuses  have 
sufficient  resources  to  counsel  and  advise  veterans? 

My  sense  is  that  the  BOG  and  Chancellor's  Office  needs  to  take  a  more  active 
role  in  assisting  veterans  returning  to  community  college.  As  such,  the  BOG  has 


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recently  established  a  Veterans  subcommittee  chaired  by  a  member  who  is  also  a 
veteran.  The  subcommittee  will  explore  ways  the  BOG  can  support  individual 
colleges  in  successfully  assisting  veterans  in  all  facets  of  the  college  experience. 
The  Chancellor's  Office  participates  in  some  very  worthy  efforts  including  the 
Troops  to  College  Initiative  launched  in  March  2006.  In  addition,  the 
Chancellor's  Office  has  worked  directly  with  various  stakeholders  and  campuses 
to  expand  outreach  programs,  academic  advising  and  financial  aid  advising  to 
veterans  and  service  members  on  active  duty.  Staff  have  identified  some 
particularly  strong  programs  and  have  spread  the  word.  A  communication 
network  for  campus  veterans  program  coordinators  has  been  established  through 
an  email  list-serv.  Resources  are  very  limited  which  is  why  the  Chancellor's 
Office  has  written  a  proposal  for  dedicated  federal  funding  to  support  campus 
efforts  and  statewide  coordination  of  services  for  military  and  veteran  students. 


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California  Legislature 


MEMBERS 


SAMAANESTAD  GREGORY  SCHMIDT 

/   .       .  SECRETARY  OF  THE  SENATE 

'l^.v1  '                                                                                                      NETTIE  SABELHAUS 

'■'  '.;'  -'                                                                                                                                               APPOIKTMENTS  DIRECTOR 


VTCE-CHAIR 

GILBERT  CEDILLO 


ROBERT  DUTTON 


JENNY  OROPEZA 


Senate  Rules  Committee 

DARRELL  STEINBERG 

CHAIRMAN 


May  5,  2009 


Lance  T.  Izumi 


Dear  Mr.  Izumi: 

The  Senate  Rules  Committee  will  conduct  a  confirmation  hearing  on  your 
reappointment  as  a  member  of  the  Board  of  Governors  of  the  California  Community 
Colleges  on  Wednesday,  June  10,  2009.  We  request  that  you  appear.  The  meeting  will 
begin  at  1:30  p.m.  in  Room  113  of  the  State  Capitol. 

We  have  prepared  the  following  questions  to  which  we  would  appreciate  your  written 
responses.  Please  provide  your  responses  by  May  26th. 


Goals  and  Responsibilities 

The  California  Community  Colleges  system  provides  educational,  vocational,  and 
transfer  programs  to  more  than  2.5  million  students.  It  is  the  largest  system  of  higher 
education  in  the  world  and  is  comprised  of  72  districts  and  109  campuses. 

1.  Please  provide  a  brief  statement  detailing  what  you  hope  to  accomplish  during  your 
second  term  as  a  member  of  the  Board  of  Governors.  How  will  you  measure  your 
success? 

2.  As  a  member  of  the  board  for  the  last  four  years,  what  do  you  consider  to  be  the 
board's  greatest  achievements?  In  your  view,  what  challenges  confront  the 
Chancellor's  Office,  as  well  as  local  community  college  districts? 

3.  California's  community  colleges  serve  every  region  of  the  state.  In  a  difficult 
economy  and  at  a  time  of  state  budget  reductions,  how  do  you,  as  a  member  of  the 
Board  of  Governors,  help  the  community  colleges  maintain  their  critical  role  in 
California's  higher  education  system? 

Student  Fees  and  Affordability 


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California  has  no  official  policy  for  setting  community  college  fees.  Most  recently,  fees 
were  reduced  in  January  2007  from  $26  to  $20  per  unit.  Revenues  from  student  fees 
are  consistently  the  lowest  in  the  nation.  The  board  administers  an  enrollment  fee 
waiver  program  that  waives  the  educational  fees  for  all  residents  who  demonstrate 
financial  need.  However,  fees  represent  only  about  5  percent  of  the  total  cost  of 
attending  community  college. 

Students  who  do  not  qualify  for  the  fee  waiver  program  often  are  eligible  for  federal 
financial  assistance  that  covers  all  or  a  portion  of  their  fees — these  include  the  federal 
Hope  tax  credit  and  the  Lifetime  Learning  credit.  Still,  despite  this  funding,  relatively  few 
students  take  advantage  of  the  federal  tax  credit/deduction  programs. 

4.  Should  there  be  a  long-term  community  college  student  fee  policy?  If  so,  what 
should  its  key  features  be? 

5.  What  are  colleges  doing  to  ensure  that  students  maximize  their  use  of  federal  aid 
for  which  they  are  already  eligible?  How  is  the  board  kept  informed  of  districts' 
outreach  and  technical  assistance  activities  geared  toward  informing  students  of 
their  financial  aid  opportunities?  How  do  you  weigh  in  if  you  believe  more  should  be 
done? 

6.  The  community  college  system  offers  a  variety  of  recreational  and  personal 
enrichment  credit  courses  to  students,  all  funded  at  the  same  per-student  funding 
rate  (about  $4,600  per  full-time  equivalent  student  in  2008-09).  The  Legislative 
Analyst's  Office  has  recommended  reducing  the  funding  for  credit-bearing  physical 
education  and  enrichment  classes  to  the  regular  noncredit  rate.  Given  the  current 
budget  limitations,  what  are  your  views  regarding  this  proposal? 


Preparing  for  the  Future  /  Career  Technical  Education 

California's  community  colleges  are  uniquely  positioned  to  help  address  the  state's 
economic  downturn.  More  than  70  percent  of  California's  higher  education  students  are 
enrolled  in  a  community  college,  and  almost  60  percent  of  all  graduates  of  California 
State  University  and  30  percent  of  graduates  of  the  University  of  California  transferred 
from  a  community  college.  Moreover,  the  community  college  system's  size  and 
geographic  distribution  make  it  the  only  segment  of  higher  education  capable  of 
delivering  education  and  workforce  training  on  the  large  scale  necessary  to  address 
California's  economic  challenges. 


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According  to  a  recent  report  by  the  Center  for  Continuing  Study  of  the  California 
Economy,  during  the  next  10  years,  2.4  million  California  workers  will  retire. 
Communities  throughout  the  state  are  benefiting  from  grants  awarded  to  consortia 
consisting  of  community  colleges  and  K-12  partners,  including  high  schools,  middle 
schools,  and  Regional  Occupational  Centers  and  programs. 

7.  How  does  the  board  monitor  and  determine  whether  community  colleges  are 
responding  to  local  education  and  workforce  training  needs?  In  your  view,  what 
policy  initiatives  or  programs  are  critical  to  supporting  the  capacity  of  community 
colleges  to  meet  California's  workforce  needs? 

8.  Enhancing  relevance  in  education  and  providing  students  multiple  options  for 
success  are  crucial  for  curbing  dropouts  and,  at  the  same  time,  meeting  the  needs 
of  our  economy.  What  is  the  Chancellor's  Office  doing  to  encourage  community 
colleges  to  work  with  their  local  high  schools  to  ensure  that  students  have 
increased  access  for  career  development  and  college  preparation  courses?  What 
is  the  Chancellor's  Office  doing  to  improve  career  pathways  and  linkages  between 
K-12  and  community  college  career  development  programs? 

9.  Governor  Schwarzenegger  signed  SB  70  (Scott),  Chapter  352,  Statutes  of  2005,  to 
expand  career  technical  education  (CTE)  instruction  and  enhance  partnerships 
between  secondary  and  postsecondary  CTE  programs.  Please  provide  a  status 
update  regarding  the  CTE  Pathways  Initiative.  How  does  the  board  monitor 
progress? 

10.  There  have  been  reports  that  the  implementation  of  the  SB  70  CTE  funds  have 
been  inconsistent  across  school  districts  and  local  community  colleges.  Have  you 
found  this  to  be  the  case  and,  if  so,  what  can  be  done  to  improve  collaborations  to 
expand  CTE  programs  in  California? 

1 1.  Recently,  the  state  has  provided  supplemental  funding  for  nursing  programs.  How 
is  the  board  kept  informed  of  the  effect  of  supplemental  funding  on  the  enrollment 
and  retention  of  students  in  community  college  nursing  programs?  What  direction 
is  being  provided  to  local  community  college  districts  regarding  the  sustainability  of 
these  programs  when  supplemental  funding  decreases  or  is  eliminated? 

California  is  a  national  and  international  leader  on  environmental,  natural  resources, 
pollution  prevention,  and  energy  issues.  As  the  green  technology  sector  grows,  there 
will  be  an  increase  in  the  demand  of  highly  skilled,  well-trained  "green  collar"  workers. 

12.  How  should  the  community  college  system  propose  to  align  its  educational  and 
career  development  programs  with  the  needs  of  the  green  collar  workforce?  Is  this 
an  issue  area  on  which  your  board  provides  guidance?  If  not,  do  you  believe  it 
should,  and  how? 


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13.    The  Legislative  Analyst's  Office  indicates  that  the  American  Recovery  and 
Reinvestment  Act  will  provide  California  with  an  additional  $494  million  in 
Workforce  Investment  Act  funds  for  employment  and  training  purposes.  Community 
colleges  will  be  able  to  compete  for  contracts  to  provide  job  training  and  other 
services  to  job  seekers  and  employers.  Is  the  board  kept  informed  of  districts' 
efforts  to  obtain  workforce  development  funds?  If  so,  how?  Is  the  Chancellor's 
Office  providing  direction  to  districts  in  their  efforts  to  compete  for  funds? 


Developing  Basic  Skills  of  Community  College  Students 

The  development  of  strong  basic  skills  is  the  foundation  for  student  success  at  a 
community  college.  Currently,  it  is  estimated  that  about  90  percent  of  incoming 
community  college  students  are  not  proficient  in  transfer-level  (university-level)  math  or 
English.  Of  those  students  who  enroll  in  credit  basic  skills  courses,  only  about  60 
percent  successfully  complete  a  basic  skills  English  course,  and  just  50  percent  of 
students  successfully  complete  a  basic  skills  math  course.  Since  2006-07  the  state  has 
provided  additional  funding  to  community  college  districts  as  part  of  the  basic  skills 
initiative.  Districts  can  use  these  funds  for  services,  such  as  curriculum  development, 
additional  counseling  and  tutoring,  and  the  purchase  of  instructional  materials  for  basic 
skills  classes. 

14.  What  steps  is  the  board  taking  to  ensure  that  more  community  college  students  are 
completing  basic  skills  classes?  How  does  the  board  determine  that  colleges  are 
taking  sufficient  steps  to  track  students'  progress?  Please  provide  us  with  any  data 
the  board  has  on  completion  of  basic  skills  classes. 

15.  What  strategic  direction  is  the  board  providing  the  Chancellor's  Office  in  dispersing 
funds  specifically  set  aside  for  basic  skills  education?  How  does  the  board  ensure 
that  districts  are  using  these  funds  to  target  the  least-prepared  students? 


Student  Success 

One  of  the  community  colleges'  strategic  goals  is  to  increase  completion  rates  among 
community  college  students  by  promoting  college  readiness  as  early  as  possible.  Most 
studies  agree  that  incoming  community  college  students  should  be  assessed  prior  to 
enrolling  in  classes  in  order  to  learn  whether  they  are  on  track  for  college-level  work. 
Many  studies  cite  California  State  University's  early  assessment  program  (EAP)  as  a 
model  for  measuring  and  communicating  college  readiness  to  high  school  students. 
Currently,  there  is  no  statewide  EAP  for  high  school  students  considering  a  community 
college.  Last  year,  legislation  was  signed  by  the  Governor — SB  946  (Scott),  Chapter 
473,  Statutes  of  2008 — which  expands  EAP  to  include  participation  by  prospective 
community  college  students,  beginning  in  2009-10. 


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16.  What  is  the  board  doing  to  encourage  colleges  to  work  with  K-12  schools  to  align 
educational  standards,  assessment,  and  course  work  that  will  better  prepare 
students  for  successfully  completing  a  community  college  education? 

1 7.  Currently,  all  districts  determine  their  own  academic  standards,  which  can  vary  in 
academic  rigor  from  campus  to  campus.  Assessment  and  placement  are  voluntary 
as  well,  as  practiced  at  many  colleges  across  the  system.  Is  the  board  encouraging 
colleges  to  use  the  existing  EAP  tests  to  assess  college  readiness?  Do  you  believe 
there  is  a  role  for  the  board  in  addressing  assessment  and  placement  policies?  If 
so,  what  should  it  be? 

18.  How  does  the  board  evaluate  the  quality  of  student  services  in  its  colleges  that 
would  boost  transfer  rates?  How  can  matriculation  programs  and  counseling 
services  better  target  student  populations  with  the  poorest  outcomes?  What  can  be 
done  at  the  board  level  to  improve  colleges'  efforts  if  the  board  determines  it  is 
needed? 


Veterans  Services 

Sixteen  thousand  of  the  21,000  veterans  and  their  dependents  using  Gl  Bill  benefits  at 
California's  public  colleges  and  universities  are  in  the  California  community  college 
system.  In  2006  Governor  Schwarzenegger  announced  the  Troops  to  College  initiative 
to  provide  educational  opportunities  and  assistance  to  active  duty  service  members  and 
veterans.  Last  summer,  the  Post  9/1 1  Gl  Bill  Reauthorization  was  signed  into  law, 
providing  enhanced  educational  benefits  for  veterans.  The  California  Postsecondary 
Education  Commission  has  projected  a  possible  enrollment  increase  of  34,000  veterans 
in  private  and  public  colleges  and  universities,  with  the  greatest  increase  anticipated  to 
be  at  community  colleges. 

19.    How  is  the  Chancellor's  Office  assisting  community  colleges  in  meeting  the 
educational  and  career  planning  needs  of  veterans  returning  to  college?  In  your 
view,  what  assistance  should  the  Chancellor's  officer  provide?  Do  campuses  have 
sufficient  resources  to  counsel  and  advise  veterans? 


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Please  send  your  written  answers  to  these  questions  to  Nettie  Sabelhaus,  Senate  Rules 
Committee  Appointments  Director,  Room  420,  State  Capitol,  Sacramento,  CA  95814. 

Thank  you  for  your  help. 

Sincerely, 


DARRELL  STEINBERG 
DS.LG 


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ANSWERS  BY  LANCE  T.  IZUMI,  MEMBER  OF  THE  BOARD  OF  GOVERNORS  OF 
THE  CALIFORNIA  COMMUNITY  COLLEGES,  TO  QUESTIONS  BY  THE  SENATE 
RULES  COMMITTEE 

1.  As  the  current  president  of  the  Board  of  Governors,  I  would  like  to  finish  my 
presidential  term  by  continuing  to  provide  stable,  thoughtful  and  inclusive  leadership. 
The  new  state  chancellor,  Dr.  Jack  Scott,  will  be  presenting  his  goals  for  his 
chancellorship  in  July.  I  will  work  with  him  to  implement  the  goals  mutually  agreed 
upon  between  him  and  the  Board.  Also,  the  Board-adopted  system  strategic  plan  gives  a 
wide  overview  of  the  challenges  that  the  community  colleges  face,  and  the  responses  of 
the  Board  of  Governors  and  the  Chancellor's  Office.  The  extent  to  which  the  individual 
components  of  the  plan  are  implemented  will  be  a  significant  measure  of  the  success  of 
my  continued  tenure  as  a  member  of  the  Board  of  Governors.  For  example,  one  of  the 
goals  identified  by  the  plan  would  enhance  alignment  of  expectations  between  K-12 
schools  and  the  colleges  regarding  what  it  takes  for  high  school  students  to  succeed  in 
higher  education.  I  have  been  a  strong  supporter  on  the  Board  of  efforts  such  as  the 
California  Partnership  for  Achieving  Student  Success  (Cal-PASS)  program  that  brings  K- 
12  and  community  college  instructors  together  to  align  curricula  and  instruction  so  that 
students  have  the  knowledge  and  learning  necessary  to  make  the  transition  from  K- 1 2  to 
college. 

2.  Providing  statewide  leadership  is  a  key  responsibility  of  the  Board  of  Governors.  This 
responsibility  includes  choosing  the  chancellor  of  the  system  when  required.  Within  the 
last  four  years  the  Board  of  Governors  was  faced  with  the  difficult  task  of  conducting  two 
intensive  searches  for  chancellor  of  the  statewide  system.  These  searches  were 
precipitated  by  the  unexpected  resignation  of  then-chancellor  Mark  Drummond.  The 
Board  decided  to  fill  the  position  first  with  an  interim  chancellor  while  it  conducted  a 
nationwide  search  for  a  permanent  chancellor.  As  the  then- vice  president  of  the  Board, 
then-president  Kay  Albiani  delegated  to  me  the  responsibility  of  overseeing  the  process 
of  selecting  the  interim  chancellor,  which  involved  working  closely  with  a  recruitment 
consultant  to  set  up  the  selection  process.  In  order  to  maximize  inclusiveness  among  all 
stakeholders  within  the  community  college  family,  stakeholder  representatives  were 
included  in  the  process  to  give  their  advice  and  input.  Through  this  consultative  process, 
the  Board  eventually  chose  Dr.  Diane  Woodruff  to  be  the  interim  chancellor.  Dr. 
Woodruffs  tenure  as  interim  chancellor  was  widely  praised  by  college  leaders  out  in  the 
field.  She  provided  steady  thoughtful  leadership  for  more  than  a  year  while  the  Board 
sought  a  permanent  chancellor.  As  president  of  the  Board,  I  was  in  charge  of  the 
selection  process  of  the  permanent  chancellor.  Again,  this  responsibility  involved 
working  closely  with  our  recruitment  consultant  to  coordinate  a  nationwide  search  for 
candidates  and  set  up  a  selection  process.  Once  again,  we  involved  stakeholders  in  the 
selection  process  to  give  advice  and  input.  At  the  end  of  the  process,  the  result  was  the 
choice  and  appointment  of  Senator  Jack  Scott  as  permanent  chancellor.  Senator  Scott  is 
universally  respected  inside  and  outside  the  system,  and  his  proven  leadership  is  what  the 
colleges  will  need  as  they  face  the  wide  variety  of  challenges  in  the  coming  years. 


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The  Chancellor's  Office  and  the  colleges  face  a  myriad  of  challenges.  With  the  state's 
ongoing  budget  crisis,  the  Chancellor's  Office,  which  has  seen  cutbacks  in  personnel  over 
the  years,  will  have  to  do  more  with  less,  which  is  an  increasingly  difficult  responsibility. 
Likewise,  the  colleges  face  increased  demand  for  academic,  career  technical,  and  other 
education  services  at  a  time  when  resources  are  getting  tighter.  Providing  these  services 
and  continuing  as  effective  gateway  institutions  will  be  challenging  in  the  current  fiscal 
situation.  In  addition,  the  colleges  must  address  critical  issues  such  as  the  large  number 
of  students  who  must  receive  basic  skills  instruction  in  English  and/or  math.  The  system 
office  has  spearheaded  a  statewide  Basic  Skills  Initiative  designed  to  disseminate  best 
practices  to  professionals  in  the  field.  This  initiative  has  received  accolades  from 
participants.  The  Board  of  Governors  and  the  Chancellor's  Office  are  assisted  in  their 
efforts  to  meet  the  many  and  diverse  challenges  facing  the  system  and  individual  colleges 
through  the  system  strategic  plan  that  was  adopted  in  2006.  Implementation  groups  that 
include  a  variety  of  state  and  local  officials  plus  stakeholder  representatives  have  been 
busy  ensuring  that  the  plan  is  meeting  its  goal  of  addressing  in  a  timely  way  the  many 
problems  and  challenges  that  have  been  identified. 

3.  As  a  member  of  the  Board  of  Governors,  I  provide  state-level  leadership  to  assist  the 
local  colleges.  For  example,  as  president  of  the  Board,  in  February  I  traveled  to 
Washington,  DC  with  Chancellor  Scott  and  a  delegation  of  California  community  college 
leaders  to  meet  with  key  members  of  Congress  regarding  the  then-pending  federal 
stimulus  package.  We  urged  congressional  leaders  to  allow  flexibility  to  states  to 
maximize  the  use  of  stimulus  dollars  for  the  benefit  of  the  community  colleges.  I  have 
also  served  as  a  member  of  the  Joint  Advisory  Committee  for  Career  Technical 
Education  (JACCTE),  which  includes  representatives  of  the  Board  of  Governors  and  the 
state  Board  of  Education.  As  a  member  of  the  JACCTE,  I  supported  a  re-examination  of 
the  formula  by  which  federal  career-technical  dollars  are  divided  up  between  K-12  and 
the  colleges  so  as  to  ensure  that  the  colleges  receive  a  fair  share  of  those  dollars.  Also, 
Board  members,  including  myself,  interface  with  state  legislators  to  discuss  the  needs  of 
the  colleges  and  present  the  case  for  adequate  funding  for  those  needs.  The  Board  also 
works  with  the  Chancellor's  staff  to  come  up  with  budget  proposals  that  address  the 
needs  of  the  colleges.  As  president  of  the  Board,  I  help  guide  those  discussions  with  staff 
so  that  optimal  proposals  are  produced. 

4.  Having  served  on  the  Board  when  fees  increased  to  $26  a  unit,  the  consensus  among 
Board  members,  including  myself,  was  that  fees  should  be  low  and  affordable  because 
the  community  colleges  are  intended  to  be  gateway  institutions  for  students,  many  of 
whom  come  from  lower-income  backgrounds.  The  discussions  at  the  time  centered  on 
the  propensity  for  fee  increases  to  occur  unpredictably,  such  as  when  the  state  faced 
sudden  fiscal  problems,  which  created  hardships  for  students  in  terms  of  planning  their 
finances  for  college.  The  discussions  emphasized  that  the  longtime  fee  policy  of  the 
Board  was  that  fee  changes  should  be  incremental  and  predictable  so  as  not  to  create  an 
undue  burden  on  students.  Any  change  to  the  current  $20  fee  level  should,  therefore, 
follow  this  recommendation.  Further,  financial  aid  should  continue  to  be  sufficient  to 
cover  fees  for  low-income  students  and  revenues  generated  by  increased  fees  should  not 
supplant  general  fund  support  for  the  colleges. 


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5.  During  my  tenure  on  the  Board  of  Governors,  the  Board  and  the  Chancellor's  Office 
have  supported  the  "I  Can  Afford  College"  media  campaign  designed  to  inform  students 
and  potential  students  of  the  financial  aid  that  is  available  to  them  for  community  college. 
Television  and  radio  commercials  have  been  presented  to  the  Board  for  its  critique  and 
input.  The  importance  placed  upon  this  outreach  to  students  is  underscored  by  the  hiring 
of  one  of  the  individuals  responsible  for  the  "I  Can  Afford  College"  campaign  as  the 
communications  head  in  the  Chancellor's  Office.  The  "I  Can  Afford  College"  campaign 
not  only  informs  students  of  the  BOG  fee  waiver,  but  is  creating  new  materials  to  explain 
the  new  federal  higher  education  tax  credit.  Unlike  the  Hope  tax  credit  and  the  Lifetime 
Learning  credit,  which  can  be  used  only  to  offset  fees  and  tuition,  the  new  federal  tax 
credit  can  offset  the  cost  of  books  and  supplies,  which  often  are  more  costly  for  students 
than  fees.  The  system  has  been  grateful  that  the  state  has  provided  funding  since  2003-04 
for  financial-aid  outreach  efforts.  The  Board  is  pleased  that  nearly  80  percent  of  students 
receiving  a  BOG  waiver  also  file  a  Federal  Financial  Aid  form.  The  Board  is  kept 
informed  of  developments  involving  state  and  federal  financial  aid  through  regular 
reports  made  to  the  Board  by  Chancellor's  Office  staff  at  regular  Board  meetings.  These 
reports  allow  discussion  by  Board  members  as  to  their  ideas  for  improving  financial  aid 
outreach. 

6. 1  agree  that  it  is  important  to  keep  evaluating  how  limited  tax  dollars  are  used, 
especially  during  times  of  fiscal  crisis.  In  order  to  make  informed  decisions  it  is  also 
important  to  understand  exactly  how  dollars  are  being  used.  Not  all  physical  education 
courses  are  recreational.  Some  of  these  courses  are  included  in  particular  certificate  and 
degree  programs.  Any  funding  changes  regarding  physical  education  should  recognize 
these  differences  in  physical  education  courses. 

7.  During  my  tenure  on  the  Board,  we  receive  regular  reports  on  workforce  development 
issues  from  Vice  Chancellor  Jose  Millan,  who  is  the  person  responsible  for  overseeing 
that  subject  area.  Through  his  reports  we  are  informed  about  workforce  training  needs 
and  how  the  Chancellor's  Office  and  the  local  colleges  are  addressing  those  needs. 
Addressing  those  needs  often  take  place  within  the  framework  of  the  system's  strategic 
plan.  At  the  Board's  most  recent  meeting,  we  received  a  report  on  the  implementation  of 
six  workforce-development  goals  contained  in  the  system  strategic  plan:  innovative 
practices  in  workforce  education,  coordination  of  statewide  workforce  programs  and 
policies,  career  pathways  between  academic  and  career  fields,  regional  collaboration 
through  multi-agency  networks,  and  defining  and  addressing  long-range  economic  and 
workforce  trends.  These  goals  are  key  in  supporting  the  capacity  of  community  colleges 
to  meet  California's  workforce  needs.  In  terms  of,  for  example,  coordination  of  statewide 
workforce  programs  and  policies,  the  Chancellor's  Office  is  partnering  with  state 
agencies,  using  local  community  colleges  as  service  providers,  to  increase  and  retool 
career  technical  education  programs.  These  partnerships  will  support  community 
colleges  in  their  delivery  of  education  and  training  services.  For  instance,  a  collaboration 
is  being  developed  with  the  Energy  Commission  to  develop  curriculum  and  train  workers 
for  employment  in  energy-efficiency-related  areas. 


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8.  The  Cal-PASS  program,  which  has  been  supported  by  the  Chancellor's  Office,  and 
which  I  mentioned  in  my  answer  to  Question  #1,  seeks  to  put  K-12  and  community 
college  instructors  together  to  ensure  that  students  are  more  successful  in  their  access  to 
and  readiness  for  the  variety  of  programs  in  higher  education.  Cal-PASS  tracks  the 
performance  of  career-technical-education  students  and  their  outcomes  to  help  inform  the 
linkages  between  K-12  and  community  college  career  development  programs.  Cal-PASS 
has  also  been  named  the  statewide  career-technical-education  data  provider  under  the 
federal  Perkins  law.  Cal-PASS  is  also  currently  working  to  embed  contextualized 
assignments  from  career  technical  education  courses  into  English  and  math  courses,  and 
to  embed  in  career  technical  education  courses  the  English  and  math  elements  that  are 
basic  to  all  curricula.  The  process  will  create  aligned  curricula  outcomes  so  that  students 
will  be  prepared  for  the  next  level  course  and  postsecondary  work  once  they  leave  high 
school.  Recently,  Cal-PASS  contracted  with  the  Employment  Development  Department 
to  track  students  to  the  work  world.  This  data  will  be  used  to  improve  career  technical 
education  practices  among  high  schools  and  colleges.  Also,  the  Chancellor's  Office 
supports  a  variety  of  programs,  such  as  the  Career  Pathways  program  and  various  federal 
Perkins  programs  that  are  designed  to  improve  the  linkages  between  community  colleges 
and  K- 1 2  schools. 

9.  The  Legislature  has  generously  increased  funding  for  CTE  Pathways  Initiative  from 
$20  million  in  2005-06  to  $58  million  in  2008-09.  During  that  time  more  than  400  grants 
have  been  awarded.  In  the  2008-09  fiscal  year,  approximately  100  grants  were  awarded 
for  career  planning  and  development  and  career  pathways  and  articulation,  approximately 
55  grants  were  awarded  for  new  program  development,  approximately  20  grants  were 
awarded  for  career-technical-education  teacher  recruitment  and  professional 
development,  approximately  10  grants  were  awarded  for  expanding  business  and  industry 
engagement  in  career  technical  education,  and  one  grant  went  to  capacity  building, 
research  and  evaluation.  As  a  result  of  the  grants,  hundreds  of  new  courses  and 
enrollment  opportunities  have  been  created  for  K-12  and  community  college  students. 
Also,  faculty  professional  development  and  industry  connections  to  occupational 
preparation  programs  have  increased.  The  Board  monitors  SB  70  through  the  approval  of 
grants  and  through  a  contracted  for  a  study  by  WestEd  on  the  effectiveness  of  the  grants. 

10.  There  has  been  a  transition  in  the  way  SB  70  funds  have  been  used  since  the  law  was 
enacted.  In  order  to  have  a  greater  initial  impact,  funding  in  the  first  years  of  the  program 
was  targeted  at  particular  programs  that  could  be  used  as  models  for  emulation.  These 
programs,  which  were  selected  through  a  competitive  process  at  the  Chancellor's  Office, 
already  had  much  of  the  infrastructure  and  partnerships  in  place  in  order  to  make  a  quick 
impact.  Because  of  this  focus,  there  may  have  been  the  appearance  of  inconsistent  use  of 
funding  across  districts  and  colleges.  Currently,  the  competitive  grant  process  serves 
programs  in  a  larger  cross-section  of  the  state.  These  programs  are  organized  into  sub- 
regions  that  bring  together  community  colleges,  the  business  community  and  K- 1 2 
schools. 

11.  The  Board  is  updated  at  its  regular  bimonthly  meetings  by  Chancellor's  Office  staff 
on  CTE  issues,  including  issues  involving  nursing  programs.  The  Board  is  also 


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responsible  for  the  distribution  of  supplemental  funds  for  nursing  projects.  The 
Chancellor's  Office  issues  a  yearly  report  to  the  Governor  and  the  Legislature  on  the 
results  and  funding  of  the  nursing  initiative.  With  the  prospect  of  supplemental  funding 
being  curtailed  or  ended,  the  Board  has  urged  colleges  to  establish  private-public 
partnerships  and  other  funding  options  in  order  to  ensure  the  continuance  of  programs. 

12.  Defining  and  addressing  long-range  economic  and  workforce  trends  is  one  of  the  key 
goals  in  the  system's  strategic  plan.  Certainly,  the  advent  of  green-collar  industries  and 
jobs  must  be  addressed  in  meeting  this  goal.  An  action  plan  group  for  this  particular  goal 
in  the  strategic  plan  has  been  established.  Sixty  regional,  multi-regional  or  statewide 
industry  reports  on  high  growth,  economically  critical  industries  or  occupations  have 
been  collected.  Partnership  events  have  been  held  to  bring  faculty  and  workforce 
professionals  together  with  industry  to  discuss  solutions  to  workforce  issues.  One 
partnership  event  was  held  for  faculty,  staff,  and  industry  partners  to  present  an  overview 
of  the  green  economy.  The  newly  formed  State  Green  Jobs  Council  subsequently  used 
information  resulting  from  this  partnership  event.  A  study  by  the  Lawrence  Berkeley 
Labs  and  PG&E  found  eight  occupations  in  energy  efficiency  that  require  community 
college  training.  These  study  results  are  being  used  to  begin  and  expand  community 
college  programs. 

13.  As  the  disbursement  and  use  of  ARRA  funds  take  place,  the  Board  will  be  informed 
by  regular  staff  reports  at  its  bimonthly  meetings  about  the  efforts  of  districts  to  obtain 
these  funds.  The  Chancellor  has  issued  three  statewide  memoranda  to  colleges  and 
districts  informing  them  of  the  funding  possibilities  arising  from  ARRA  and  direction  on 
how  to  obtain  these  new  funds.  These  memoranda  also  cite  best  practice  examples  of 
effective  partnerships  with  local  workforce  investment  boards  (WIB).  Where  there  has 
been  little  or  no  collaboration  between  WIBs  and  colleges,  the  Chancellor's  Office  is 
providing  technical  assistance  to  foster  partnerships.  Also,  the  Chancellor's  office  is 
working  with  the  Administration  to  monitor  Workforce  Investment  Act  funds  contained 
in  special  initiatives  such  as  Allied  Health  Care  programs  and  the  Green  Clean  Initiative. 

14.  The  system's  strategic  plan  acknowledges  that  a  majority  of  entering  community 
college  students  requires  basic  skill  instruction.  The  plan  also  says  that  basic  skills  is  the 
foundation  for  student  success.  The  Board  supports  the  Basic  Skills  Initiative  (BSI), 
which  is  designed  to  improve  the  success  of  students  in  basic  skills  classes.  BSI  works 
by  disseminating  information  on  effective  basic  skills  practices  and  improving 
professional  development  for  teaching  of  basic  skills.  BSI  holds  numerous  workshops 
for  instructors,  staff  and  administrators  in  all  parts  of  the  state  to  accomplish  its 
objectives.  At  these  workshops,  faculty  are  instructed  on  how  to  use  assessment  tools, 
data  collection,  interpretation,  and  reporting  to  enhance  student  outcomes.  Tracking 
student  outcomes  on  a  system-wide  basis  will  be  included  in  a  supplemental  ARCC 
report  next  year.  The  report  will  include  student  headcount  broken  down  by  subgroups, 
number  of  sections  of  basic  skills  and  ESL  offered,  number  of  non-exempt  students  who 
are  assessed,  persistence  of  basic  skills  students  from  fall  to  spring  and  fall  to  fall,  and 
student  progress  based  on  the  tracking  of  a  cohort  of  students  over  eight  years  through 
basic  skills  and  ESL  sequences  to  degree  applicable  courses.  The  ARCC  report  also 


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includes  data  for  each  college  that  shows  basic  skills  course  completion  rates  and  ESL 
and  basic  skills  improvement  rates  (improvement  is  defined  as  moving  from  one  level  of 
basic  skills  to  higher  level  within  three  years).  System-wide,  the  basic  skills  completion 
rate  in  2007-08  was  60.5  percent,  while  the  basic  skills  improvement  rate  from  2005-06 
to  2007-08  was  51.2  percent. 

15.  For  colleges  to  receive  funds  targeted  for  basic  skills  education  they  must  submit  an 
action  and  expenditure  plan  and  reports  that  show  where  the  expenditures  have  been 
made.  Allowable  expenditures  include  program  and  curriculum  development,  student 
assessment,  advisement  and  counseling  services,  supplemental  instruction  and  tutoring, 
articulation,  instructional  materials  and  equipment,  and  related  programs.  Each  college 
should  be  targeting  each  and  every  basic  skills  student.  In  terms  of  the  Board  advising 
the  Chancellor  on  the  disbursement  of  basic  skills  dollars,  there  is  a  steering  committee 
on  the  system's  Basic  Skills  Initiative,  and  two  members  of  the  Board  of  Governors  sit  on 
that  steering  committee 

16.  As  mentioned  earlier,  one  of  the  most  promising  projects  for  aligning  standards, 
assessment  and  coursework  is  the  Cal-PASS  system  devised  by  experts  in  the  Grossmont- 
Cuyamaca  Community  College  District,  and  which  has  been  supported  by  the 
Chancellor's  Office.  Cal-PASS  tracks  student  progress  from  kindergarten  to  attainment 
of  a  bachelor's  degree.  Since,  during  their  educational  careers,  students  transition  from 
one  system  to  another,  expectations  of  adequate  performance  changes  from  system  to 
system.  Cal-PASS  has  created  66  regional  professional  learning  councils  with  1,200  K- 
12  and  higher  education  faculty  to  align  expectations  between  systems  in  order  to 
facilitate  greater  student  success.  These  professional  learning  councils  are  now  working 
on  aligning  curricula  outcomes  in  English  and  math  from  the  1 1 th  grade  through  transfer 
level  at  the  community  colleges.  The  curricula  alignment  process  involves  discussing 
outcomes  and  entrance  competencies,  and  the  creation  of  materials  needed  to  get  high 
school  students  college  ready.  Aligned  curricula  should  lead  to  increased  student 
transition  and  reduced  remediation  as  they  move  from  one  grade  level  to  the  next  and 
when  they  move  from  secondary  to  postsecondary  institutions.  For  example,  at  one  Bay 
Area  school  district,  Cal-PASS-supplied  data  allowed  the  local  professional  learning 
council  to  recommend  a  summer  bridge  program  in  math  and  chemistry  that  ended  up 
increasing  the  preparation  level  of  student  participants,  with  participants  earning  higher 
chemistry  grades  than  comparison  groups  of  non-participating  students. 

In  addition,  the  Board  supports  the  participation  of  colleges  in  the  American  Diploma 
Project,  which  is  designed  to  assist  California  policymakers  reach  agreement  on  a 
common  standard  of  college  readiness.  One  of  the  key  tools  in  this  effort  is  the  Early 
Assessment  Program  (EAP),  a  set  of  questions  added  onto  the  1  lth-grade  California 
Standards  Test  that  measure  college  readiness  in  English  and  math.  The  CSU  uses  the 
EAP  in  its  placement  process,  and  there  are  plans  for  the  community  college  system  to 
use  the  EAP  in  a  similar  fashion. 

17.  As  mentioned  in  the  previous  answer,  the  Board  and  the  system  supports  the  EAP, 
and  community  college  participation  in  the  EAP  is  being  worked  out.  The  Board  has 


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recognized  the  deficiencies  of  the  varying  standards,  assessment  tools,  and  placement 
policies  used  by  colleges.  In  response  to  the  deficiencies  resulting  from  this  hodge- 
podge, the  Board  passed  a  resolution  a  couple  years  ago  that  pushed  for  a  uniform 
common  assessment  to  be  used  for  placement  purposes.  Then-interim  chancellor  Diane 
Woodruff  put  together  an  action-planning  group,  which  included  representatives  of  the 
Legislative  Analyst's  Office,  to  address  assessment  and  placement  issues.  One  of  the  key 
problems  resulting  from  the  varying  assessment  and  placement  policies  is  that  students, 
even  if  they  test  at  a  level  showing  that  they  need  basic-skills  instruction,  are  not  required 
to  take  basic-skills  courses  before  they  take  subject-area  courses.  The  action-planning 
group  is  examining  regulatory  change  proposals  that  would  direct  students  to  basic-skills 
courses  before  they  take  subject- area  courses. 

18.  In  order  to  evaluate  the  quality  of  student  services,  the  Chancellor's  Office  conducts 
student- services  site  reviews  that  are  scheduled  to  undergo  their  self-study  in  preparation 
for  accreditation.  Around  40  colleges  have  gone  through  the  review  process,  which 
focuses  on  issues  such  as  the  effective  use  of  student  services  at  each  campus  to  improve 
student  success.  Counseling  services  are  stretched  thin  throughout  the  system.  Currently, 
the  student  to  counselor  ratio  is  around  1 900  to  1 .    The  Board  has  been  concerned  that 
the  relative  lack  of  counselors  creates  a  barrier  to  success  for  many  students.  In  response, 
the  Board  has  endorsed  additional  funding  for  counseling  in  its  budget  requests  in  the  last 
several  years.  The  action-planning  group  mentioned  in  Question  #17  is  also  reviewing 
options  for  increasing  the  number  of  counselors.  Increasing  the  number  of  counselors 
will  allow  greater  flexibility  for  deploying  those  counselors  in  a  way  that  can  address  the 
needs  of  students  who  are  experiencing  difficulty  in  their  schoolwork. 

19.  The  Board  is  very  concerned  that  the  needs  of  returning  veterans  be  addressed.  At  a 
recent  regular  Board  meeting,  student  services  vice  chancellor  Linda  Michaelowski  put 
together  an  information  panel  on  veterans  issues  that  presented  an  array  of  information  to 
the  Board  on  the  needs  and  challenges  facing  veterans  re-entering  the  classroom.  In 
response,  as  president  of  the  Board,  I  just  appointed  member  Bobby  McDonald,  a 
longtime  champion  of  veterans  issues,  as  the  chair  of  the  Board's  veterans  committee. 
Mr.  McDonald  will  take  the  lead  on  interfacing  with  policymakers  and  veterans  in  order 
to  assist  the  Board  make  its  decisions  as  they  relate  to  veterans.  In  addition,  the 
Chancellor's  Office  had  participated  in  Governor  Schwarzenegger's  Troops  to  College 
initiative,  which  promotes  opportunities  and  assistance  to  active-duty  members  of  the 
armed  services,  veterans,  and  their  dependents,  and  which  addresses  issues  such  as 
outreach  to  veterans,  admissions  and  financial  aid,  best  practices,  partnerships,  and 
marketing  and  communications.  Also,  the  Chancellor's  Office  has  worked  with  colleges 
and  stakeholder  groups  to  expand  outreach  efforts,  counseling,  and  financial-aid  advising 
to  members  of  the  armed  services  and  veterans.  The  Office  has  also  informed  colleges  of 
identified  model  programs  such  as  support  teams  of  veterans  that  assist  returning  veterans 
transitioning  back  to  college  and  education  fairs  at  military  installations.  In  addition,  the 
Office  has  established  a  communications  network  for  veterans  program  coordinators  and 
has  facilitated  the  sharing  of  effective  practices.  Finally,  the  Chancellor's  Office  is 
working  with  the  California  Association  for  Postsecondary  Education  and  Disability  to 
address  the  needs  of  disabled  veterans.  Because  resources  in  the  Chancellor's  Office  and 


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at  the  colleges  are  very  limited  with  regard  to  assisting  veterans,  the  Chancellor's  Office 
has  put  together  a  proposal  for  dedicated  federal  funding  to  support  campus  efforts  aimed 
at  veterans  and  statewide  coordination  of  services  for  veterans  and  armed-services 
members  attending  community  colleges.  The  Chancellor's  Office  can  assist  colleges  by 
serving  as  a  clearinghouse  for  effective  practices  and  programs  and  coordinating  outreach 
materials. 


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SENATE  RULES  COMMITTEE 


STATEMENT  OF  GOALS 

1.  Please  provide  a  brief  statement  of  goals  that  you  hope  to  accomplish 
while  serving  as  a  member  of  the  California  Community  Colleges  Board 
of  Governors? 

I  established  four  basic  goals  in  my  first  term  and  I  would  like  to  continue  and  expand  on 
those  listed  below.  I  would  also  like  to  add  two  more  goals. 

A)  I  would  like  to  work  with  the  community  colleges  to  improve  the  basic  skill  levels 
of  our  students.  Re-establishing  the  value  of  an  Associated  of  Arts  Degree  and 
what  it  would  mean  in  the  real  world. 

B)  I  think  we  need  to  expand  our  course  offerings  in  the  area  of  vocational  education. 
These  courses  need  to  meet  the  needs  of  business  in  California. 

C)  Distance  education  has  a  great  value  to  students,  especially  those  who  reside  in 
rural  locations.  I  believe  we  need  to  expand  our  resources  for  this  section  of  our 
curriculum. 

D)  The  availability  and  cost  of  textbooks  have  an  impact  on  student  achievement  and 
their  ability  to  attend  community  college.  Costs  are  spiraling  upward  and  creating 
a  hardship  on  our  students.  I  would  like  to  work  towards  a  legislative  solution  to 
this  problem. 

E)  I  was  appointed  to  the  Foundation  of  California  Community  Colleges  and  I  want 
to  continue  to  work  towards  the  successful  placement  of  hundreds  of  scholarships 
for  students  throughout  this  system  through  the  Osher  Foundation  Grant. 

F)  I  would  like  to  work  with  the  legislature  to  establish  a  stable  year  to  year  funding 
source  for  community  colleges. 

A  portion  of  some  of  these  goals  have  been  accomplished,  but  the  true 
measure  will  be  the  ongoing  work  I  can  do  to  bring  consensus  among  my 
fellow  board  members  as  well  as  the  systems  office  to  prioritize  and  form 
action  plans  to  accomplish  these  goals. 


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2.  As  a  member  of  the  board  for  the  past  three  years,  what  do  you 
consider  to  be  the  board's  greatest  achievements?  In  your  view,  what 
challenges  confront  the  Chancellor's  Office,  as  well  as  local  community 
college  districts? 

The  greatest  achievements  are: 

-  The  hiring  of  Jack  Scott  as  our  new  Chancellor  brings  stability  to  our  board  and 
he  will  provide  goal  oriented  leadership  that  will  allow  us  to  move  forward  with 
greater  continuity. 

The  challenges  are: 

-  The  challenges  for  this  office  will  be  their  ability  to  attract  qualified  personnel  to 
work  in  the  systems  office. 

The  ability  to  align  appropriate  course  work  and  technology  to  meet  the  future 
needs  of  California's  labor  force.  Therefore,  appropriate  workforce  development 
strategies  for  future  programs  along  with  basic  skills  learning  will  be  a  critical 
goal  for  this  office. 


3.  California's  community  colleges  serve  every  region  of  the  state.  In  a 
difficult  economy  and  at  a  time  of  state  budget  reductions,  how  do  you, 
as  a  member  of  the  Board  of  Governors,  help  community  colleges 
maintain  their  critical  role  in  California's  higher  education  system? 

It  appears  to  me  that  we  need  to  work  with  all  stakeholders  and  continually 
prioritize  what  the  needs  of  our  students  are  and  how  we  can  manipulate  existing 
resources  to  meet  those  needs. 

Student  Fees  and  Affordability 

4.  Should  there  be  a  long-term  community  college  student  fee  policy?  If 
so,  what  should  its  key  features  be? 

I  believe  there  needs  to  be  a  long-term  policy  reflecting  community  college  fees. 
This  could  be  established  by  simply  reflecting  the  true  cost  of  education  and 
monitoring  a  standard  such  as  the  consumer  price  index.  This  would  allow  for  an 
automatic  increase,  in  assessment  of  fees  tied  to  factors  outside  of  the  political 
arena  and  more  closing  aligned  with  practical  business  economics. 


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5.  What  are  colleges  doing  to  ensure  that  students  maximize  their  use  of 
federal  aid  for  which  they  are  already  eligible?  How  is  the  board  kept 
informed  of  districts'  outreach  and  technical  assistance  activities  geared 
toward  informing  students  of  their  financial  aid  opportunities?  How  do 
you  weigh  in  if  you  believe  more  should  be  done? 

-     The  board  is  involved  in  a  reach  out  campaign  for  students  called"I  Can  Afford 
College".  We  continue  to  push  toward  the  districts  the  need  for  education  of 
potential  incoming  students  to  investigate  the  opportunities  of  federal  Financial 
Aid  such  as  BOG. 

The  board  is  kept  apprised  of  these  activities  through  the  Systems  Outreach 
Department  of  the  Chancellors  Office.  Any  ongoing  problems  or  needs  for 
support  to  specific  districts  or  community  colleges  are  brought  to  the  board's 
attention. 

This  issue  is  part  of  the  established  strategic  plan  of  the  board.  We  review  this 
plan  on  a  regular  basis  and  maintain  a  high  level  of  vigilance  towards  its  success. 
This  is  also  part  of  the  mission  of  the  Foundation  for  Community  Colleges  of 
California,  in  cooperation  with  the  Osher  Grant  money. 


6.  The  LAO  has  recommended  reducing  the  funding  for  credit-bearing 
physical  education  and  enrichment  classes  to  regular  noncredit  rate. 
Given  the  current  budget  limitations,  what  are  your  views  regarding 
this  proposal? 

I  believe  that  we  should  not  rush  to  cut  these  programs.  Having  said  this,  I  also 
believe  that  many  classes  for  personnel  enrichment  could  be  removed  from  the 
credit-based  FTES  format  and  provide  a  community  service  fee  based  enrichment 
courses.  This  would  allow  a  college  to  provide  needed  courses  as  a  fee  based 
noncredit  course  and  thus  we  continue  to  serve  the  community 
Additionally,  we  need  to  continue  to  offer  credit-based  physical  education 
coursework  to  support  students  that  moving  towards  a  degree  program  or  course 
work  that  may  support  specific  certificates. 


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Preparing  for  the  Future  /  Career  Technical 
Education 

7.  How  does  the  board  monitor  and  determine  whether  community 
colleges  are  responding  to  local  education  and  workforce  training 
needs?  In  your  view,  what  policy  initiatives  or  programs  are  critical  to 
supporting  the  capacity  of  community  colleges  to  meet  California's 
workforce  needs? 

The  board  is  continually  briefed  about  the  Economic  Workforce  Development 
(EWD)  programs.  The  Systems  Office  requires  a  five  year  strategic  review  to 
access  the  economic  impacts  and  return  on  investments  to  assist  in  whether 
ongoing  funding  should  be  provided. 

Our  policy  should  be  to  continually  invest  in  areas  that  support  local  employer 
needs  for  a  changing  workforce.  In  part  we  can  access  data  to  provide  this 
information  through  the  Accountability  Reporting  for  Community  Colleges 
(ARCC)  along  with  systems  data  provided  for  specific  colleges  by  EWD. 


8.  What  is  the  Chancellor's  Office  doing  to  encourage  community 
colleges  to  work  with  local  high  schools  to  ensure  that  students  have 
increased  access  for  career  development  and  college  preparation 
courses?  What  is  the  Chancellor's  Office  doing  to  improve  career 
pathways  and  linkages  between  K-12  and  the  community  college  career 
development  programs? 

The  Board  of  Governors  has  established  increase  access  as  part  of  their  strategic 
plan.  Within  this  plan  we  have  identified  Partnerships  for  Economic  and 
Workforce  Development  as  a  measurable  goal. 

To  improve  career  pathways  and  linkages  between  K-12  and  community  colleges 
we  have  established  the  Academic  Senate  Career  Pathway  program  and  the 
Perkins  Leadership  Grant  program  for  quality  and  improvement. 


9.  Governor  Schwarzenegger  signed  SB  70  to  expand  career  technical 
education  instruction  and  enhanced  partnerships  between  secondary 
and  postsecondary  CTE  programs.  Please  provide  a  status  of  the 
update  regarding  the  CTE  Pathways  Initiative.  How  does  the  board 
monitor  progress? 


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The  program  began  in  2005  and  through  present  day  the  funding  has  been 
increased  to  $58  million  dollars  with  over  400  grants  awarded.  Approximately 
half  of  these  grant  monies  go  toward  local  communities  to  strengthen  programs 
and  the  remaining  50%  to  capacity  building  activities.  This  includes  professional 
development. 

Monitoring  of  these  monies  and  programs  occurs  through  the  Systems  Office. 
The  Boards  of  Governors  are  provided  continual  updates  as  to  the  progress  and 
performance  of  these  programs. 

10.  There  have  been  reports  that  the  implementation  of  the  SB  70  CTE 
funds  have  been  inconsistent  across  school  districts  and  local 
community  colleges.  Have  you  found  this  to  be  the  case  and,  if  so,  what 
can  be  done  to  improve  collaborations  to  expand  CTE  programs  in 
California? 

Initially  there  were  some  inconsistencies  in  how  the  CTE  funds  were 
implemented.  However,  recently  the  focus  of  the  competitive  grant  program  has 
been  modified  to  support  a  greater  cross  section  of  the  state.  These  projects  are 
called  CTE-Community  Collaboratives. 

11.  Recently  the  state  provided  supplemental  funding  for  nursing 
programs.  How  is  the  board  kept  informed  of  the  effect  of 
supplemental  funding  on  enrollment  and  retention  of  students  in 
community  college  nursing  programs?  What  direction  is  being 
provided  to  local  community  college  districts  regarding  sustainability  of 
these  programs  when  supplemental  funding  decreases  or  is  eliminated? 

The  Board  of  Governors  is  kept  informed  through  the  Systems  Office  and  their 

reporting  by  the  colleges  that  institute  these  programs.  The  board  provides  an 

annual  report  to  the  Governor  and  Legislature  as  to  compliance  with  the  State 

Budget  Act. 

Colleges  are  aware  that  this  funding  is  not  permanent.  The  board  supports  the 

start  up  capitol  required  to  establish  these  programs  and  provides  guidance  to  the 

community  colleges  to  create  public-private  partnerships  to  increase  nursing 

enrollment  and  support  for  these  programs. 

With  over  $  50  million  dollars  having  been  spent  on  these  nursing  programs,  the 

benefits  include  that  over  74  community  colleges  are  participating  with  more  than 

13,000  full-time  equivalent  students  are  enrolled. 


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12.  How  should  the  community  college  system  propose  to  align  its 
educational  and  career  development  programs  with  the  needs  of  the 
green  collar  workforce?  Is  this  an  issue  area  on  which  your  board 
provides  guidance?  If  not,  do  you  believe  it  should,  and  how? 

For  California  to  remain  competitive  in  the  global  workplace  they  will  require 
training  in  technical  education  as  it  addresses  the  green  sector. 
The  Board  of  Governors  encourages  the  community  colleges  to  format  course 
work  with  our  EWD  and  Workforce  Development  initiatives. 

13.  The  LAO  indicates  that  the  American  Recovery  and  Investment  Act 
will  provide  California  with  an  additional  494  million  in  Workforce 
Investment  Act  funds  for  employment  and  training  purposes.  Is  the 
board  kept  informed  of  districts'  efforts  to  obtain  workforce 
development  funds?  If  so  how?  Is  the  Chancellor's  Office  providing 
direction  to  districts  in  their  efforts  to  compete  for  funds? 

The  Chancellor's  Office  has  been  very  proactive  in  keeping  the  board  and  the 

community  colleges  apprised  of  the  availability  of  these  funds.  The  Chancellor 

has  issued  three  statewide  information  memorandas  outlining  funding 

opportunities. 

The  Chancellor's  Office  continues  to  encourage  colleges  to  work  closely  with 

local  government  agencies  and  form  workforce  partnerships  to  assist  in 

collaborative  efforts  to  secure  these  funds. 

Developing  Basic  Skills  of  Community  College  Students 


14.  What  steps  is  the  board  taking  to  ensure  that  more  community 
college  students  are  completing  basic  skills  classes?  How  does  the  board 
determine  that  colleges  are  taking  sufficient  steps  to  track  students' 
progress?  Please  provide  us  with  any  data  the  board  has  on  completion 
of  the  basic  skills  classes. 

The  Board  of  Governors  has  established  as  one  of  its  highest  priorities  within  the 

strategic  plan  to  make  ongoing  improvements  in  ESL  and  basic  skills. 

The  board  has  redirected  up  to  S3 3. 1  million  towards  efforts  to  increase  the 

success  of  these  programs. 

Tracking  of  the  students  progress  on  a  system  wide  basis  will  be  monitored 

through  the  ESL  and  basic  skills  framework  and  reported  annually  in  the  ARCC 

report. 

Any  data  to  support  these  results  will  also  be  reported  in  the  annual  .ARCC  report. 


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15.  What  strategic  direction  is  the  board  providing  the  Chancellor's 
Office  in  dispersing  funds  specifically  set  aside  for  basic  skills 
education?  How  does  the  board  ensure  that  districts  are  using  these 
funds  to  target  the  least-prepared  students? 

The  colleges  must  submit  an  action  and  expenditure  plan  within  the  appropriate 
categories  that  are  outlined  for  the  expenditures.  Some  of  these  are  program  and 
curriculum  planning  and  development,  student  assessment,  advisement  and 
counseling  services,  supplemental  instruction  and  tutoring,  articulation,  and 
instructional  materials  and  equipment. 
-     Additionally,  the  board  has  directed  the  Chancellor's  Office  to  target 
underprepared  students. 


16.  What  is  the  board  doing  to  encourage  colleges  to  work  with  K-12 
schools  to  align  educational  standards,  assessment,  and  course  work 
that  will  better  prepare  students  for  successfully  completing  a 
community  college  education? 

Early  student  assessment  at  the  K-12  level  is  critical  in  evaluating  and 

establishing  college  and  career  readiness. 

The  board  has  focused  on  the  ADP  Program  to  help  establish  standards  among  all 

of  California's  education  institutions. 

This  form  of  assessment  has  proven  to  be  an  effective  tool  for  transitioning 

students  to  community  college  readiness  and  assisting  in  preparing  them  for 

higher  educational  opportunities. 

17.  Currently,  all  districts  determine  their  own  academic  standards, 
which  can  vary  in  academic  rigor  from  campus  to  campus.  Assessment 
and  placement  are  voluntary  as  well,  as  practiced  at  many  colleges 
across  the  system.  Is  the  board  encouraging  colleges  to  use  the  existing 
EAP  test  to  assess  college  readiness?  Do  you  believe  there  is  a  role  for 
the  board  in  addressing  assessment  and  placement  policies?  If  so,  what 
should  it  be? 

Since  being  appointed  to  the  board  we  have  been  focused  on  student  assessment 
and  course  placement  as  a  critical  component  in  promoting  student  success. 
Yes,  for  this  reason  the  Board  of  Governors  is  in  support  of  SB  946  which  will 
continue  to  assist  us  in  early  assessment  of  basic  skills  for  students.  As  much  as 
70%  of  the  students  entering  into  community  college  lack  some  basic  skills. 


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18.  How  does  the  board  evaluate  the  quality  of  student  services  in  its 
colleges  that  would  boost  transfer  rates?  How  can  matriculation 
programs  and  counseling  services  better  target  student  populations  with 
the  poorest  outcomes?  What  can  be  done  at  the  board  level  to  improve 
colleges'  efforts  if  the  board  determines  it  is  needed? 

We  are  in  the  second  full  year  of  review  as  a  result  of  the  board's  strategic  plan. 
The  Systems  Office  has  implemented  comprehensive  student  site  reviews.  These 
reviews  are  conducted  by  peer  teams  that  include  a  staff  member  of  the 
Chancellor's  Office. 

The  reviews  focus  on  effective  deployment  of  student  services  on  each  campus 
and  to  coordinate  with  instruction  and  student  success. 


Veterans  Services 

19.  How  is  the  Chancellor's  Office  assisting  community  colleges  in  the 
meeting  the  educational  and  career  planning  needs  of  veterans 
returning  to  college?  In  your  view,  what  assistance  should  the 
Chancellor's  Office  provide?  Do  campuses  have  sufficient  resources  to 
counsel  and  advise  veterans? 

At  our  May  meeting  the  Board  of  Governors  established  a  standing  committee  to 

specifically  address  the  needs  of  our  veteran's. 

The  Chancellor' s  Office  has  been  directed  to  continue  working  with  the 

"California  Troops  to  College  Initiative". 

The  Chancellor's  Office  continues  to  work  with  various  stakeholders  and 

campuses  throughout  the  state  to  improve  awareness  and  availability  of  services. 

Additionally,  the  Chancellor's  Office  has  written  a  proposal  for  dedicated  federal 

funding  to  support  campus  efforts  with  statewide  coordination  of  services  for 

military  and  veteran  students. 


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Goals 

/.       Please  provide  a  brief  statement  of  goals  you  hope  fo  accomplish  while  serving  on 
the  hoard.  How  will  you  measure  your  success? 

I  am  very  honored  to  have  been  asked  to  serve  on  the  Board  of  Regents.   My 
son  graduated  from  UC  Santa  Barbara  and  I  am  honored  to  be  able  to  give  back 
to  the  institution. 

I  am  joining  the  Board  at  a  very  difficult  moment.  The  current  economic  crisis  is 
straining  the  very  fabric  of  the  institution  and  threatens  to  tear  apart  some  of  the 
State  of  California's  promises  to  its  young  people  under  the  Master  Plan. 
I  would  like  to  promise  to  you  that  my  fellow  Board  members  and  I  will  be  able  to 
continue  to  deliver  UC  students  the  best  education  possible,  that  UC  will  continue 
to  be  the  best  public  research  institution  in  the  world.   I  would  like  to  promise  to 
you  that  my  fellow  Board  members  and  I  can  ensure  that  UC  remains  accessible 
and  affordable  to  all  qualified  students.  And  I  would  like  to  promise  that  UC  will 
remain  an  economic  engine  for  the  development  and  growth  of  the  State. 
Instead,  I  can  only  offer  my  assurance  to  you  that  we  will  do  all  in  our  power  to 
deliver  on  these  goals.  The  Board  of  Regents  will  need  your  help  to  accomplish 
these  goals. 


2.       You  have  been  assigned  to  serve  on  the  Committee  on  Investments.  What 
specifically  would  you  like  to  accomplish  while  serving  on  this  committee? 

[Note:  Need  further  conversation  or  notes  to  personalize  this  answer] 

As  you  know,  the  Committee  on  Investments  is  responsible  for  protecting  the 
assets  of  the  University  through  proper  allocation  and  providing  an  investment 
return  in  excess  of  the  rate  of  inflation.   Both  will  be  a  challenge  in  the  current 
economic  environment. 

Simply  put,  I  want  to  protect  the  future  of  the  University.   I  will  work  to  ensure  that 
every  UC  employee  is  able  to  retire  with  the  benefits  promised.   Due  to  the  global 
financial  crisis,  the  University's  investments  have  suffered  huge  losses  that  are  in 
line  with  those  experienced  by  comparable  institutions,  organizations,  and  the 
market  in  general.   However,  my  understanding  is  that,  even  though  UC  has  not 
had  employee  or  employer  contributions  into  the  retirement  system  for  19 
years — something  that  distinguishes  it  from  comparable  pension  systems — it  is 
remarkable  that  the  University  has  been  able  to  sustain  paying  out  about  $140 
million  per  month,  on  an  ongoing  basis,  in  pension  benefits  to  its  retirees.   On 
this  score,  we  will  need  the  State's  help  because  now,  for  the  first  time  in  19 
years,  we  are  asking  UC  employees  and  the  State  of  California  to  begin  making 
contributions  to  the  University's  retirement  plan  in  order  to  ensure  its  solvency. 


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I  also  want  to  ensure  that  the  University  remains  able  to  attract  the  staff  and  the 
faculty  necessary  to  continue  the  tradition  of  excellence,  and  a  healthy  retirement 
and  healthcare  program  are  essential  to  this.  To  accomplish  these  goals,  the 
Investments  Committee  will  need  to  maximize  the  returns  with  a  strategy  that 
emphasizes  stability,  safety  and  liquidity.   I  trust  my  experience  in  business  will 
be  an  asset  to  the  Committee  in  this  regard. 


3.        The  university  plays  a  critical  role  in  every  pari  of  California  's  cultural  and 

economic  life.  In  a  difficult  economy  and  with  significant  stale  budget  reductions,  as 
a  regent,  how  do  you  help  L/C  sustain  its  critical  role?  How  are  you  able  to  focus  on 
this  important  "big picture  "  issue  as  a  UC  regent? 

To  characterize  this  moment  in  California's  as  well  as  our  nation's  history  as  "a 
difficult  economy"  is  an  understatement.   Federal  Reserve  Chairman  Ben 
Bernanke  has  said  that  this  is  the  worst  financial  crisis  in  the  world  since  the 
1930s.  The  impact  of  the  world's,  nation's,  and  state's  current  economic  crisis 
will  be  a  tremendous  challenge  for  the  University — this  year,  next  year,  and  into 
the  foreseeable  future. 

As  you  well  know,  the  Governor  has  proposed  a  net  budget  reduction  to  UC  of 
$322  million,  or  10%,  in  2009-2010.  Together  with  the  state's  underfunding  of 
our  student  enrollment  growth  and  inflationary  cost  increases,  this  means  UC's 
total  budget  gap  is  $531  million  in  2009-10.  The  crisis  will  produce  cuts  in 
service  of  unprecedented  levels. 

As  a  Board,  we  are  likely  to  be  forced  to  consider  further  enrollment  reductions 
that  would  make  it  harder  for  students  to  be  admitted;  cuts  in  academic 
programs,  reductions  in  course  offerings  and  increases  in  class  size;  cuts  in 
student  services  ranging  from  academic  and  career  counseling  to  student  mental 
health  services;  possible  pay  reductions  or  furloughs  for  staff;  and  possibly  even 
higher  student  fees  in  future  years.  There  are  only  hard  choices  ahead. 

However,  I  appreciate  that  the  question  recognizes  that  the  University  has  a 
critical  role  to  play.   I  agree.  The  University  is  a  key  ingredient  in  our  budget 
solution  and  should  be  viewed  as  such.   UC  represents  an  investment  in 
California's  future.  The  human  infrastructure  of  this  State  is  the  future  driver  of 
economic  growth  in  California  and  we,  as  a  State  have  underinvested  in  human 
capital. 

As  a  Regent,  I  must  keep  the  larger  objective  before  me:  to  preserve  and  sustain 
the  University  as  a  means  of  preserving  and  sustaining  the  future  promise  of 
California. 


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The  University's  role  in  helping  to  develop  a  pool  of  workers  who  can  meet  the 
state's,  as  well  as  the  nation's,  needs  is  critical.  When  faced  with  these  difficult 
questions  and  decisions  as  a  Regent.  I  strive  to  ask  the  right  questions,  absorb 
and  balance  all  the  relevant  information,  then  evaluate,  to  the  best  of  my  ability 
based  on  the  best  available  information,  how  to  do  what  is  in  the  best  interest  of 
the  University  given  its  mission  and  priorities  in  meeting  the  state's  research, 
teaching,  and  public  service  needs.  Among  the  220,000  students  currently 
studying  on  one  of  the  ten  UC  campuses,  about  13,000  of  them  will  be  the  next 
generation  of  doctors,  nurses,  and  health  practitioners.   UC  produces 
entrepreneurs,  engineers,  scientists,  writers  and  artists.   For  14  years  running, 
the  University  of  California  has  been  the  nation's  leading  university  in  the  number 
of  patents  issued  by  the  U.  S.  Patent  Office.   UC  is  creating  new  technologies, 
new  products,  new  companies,  and  new  jobs  for  California. 


4,  Some  120,000  young  people  drop  out  of  high  school  and  middle  school  annually  in 
California.  What  role,  if  any,  should  UC  play  in  turning  /he  dropout  crisis  around'/ 
How  does  (he  hoard  weigh  in  on  what  should  be  done7 

While  the  primary  role  of  the  University  is  to  educate  and  train  undergraduate, 
graduate,  doctoral  and  post-doctoral  students,  the  Regents  also  recognize  our 
responsibility  to  ensure  that  the  entire  public  education  system  in  California  is 
meeting  its  responsibility  to  produce  young  people  who  are  either  ready  to 
proceed  to  college  work  or  prepared  for  a  job  once  they  graduate.  The  high 
dropout  rate  in  our  secondary  schools  threatens  not  only  the  pipeline  for 
successful  college  completion,  but  also  the  future  economic  vitality  of  the  State. 
Thus,  it  is  no  secret  that  California's  middle  and  high  school  dropout  rate  is  a 
problem  that  warrants  the  engagement  and  attention  of  all  educators,  policy 
makers  and  parents. 

I  asked  the  Office  of  the  President  to  provide  me  with  some  information  on  this 
topic.   I  understand  that  University  of  California  researchers  are  thoroughly 
engaged  in  not  only  solving  this  problem,  but  understanding  the  key  influential 
factors  in  dropout  rates.  According  to  University  staff,  at  UC  Santa  Barbara,  the 
California  Dropout  Research  Project  recently  performed  a  review  of  past 
research  to  identify  significant  individual  and  institutional  predictors  of  high  school 
dropout  or  graduation.   Four  key  factors  predicted  whether  students  would  drop 
out  or  graduate:  1)  educational  performance,  especially  grades;  2)  behaviors, 
such  as  student  engagement;  3)  attitudes,  specifically  how  far  a  student 
expected  to  go  in  school;  and  4)  background,  most  significantly  participation  in 
preschool.  According  to  the  study,  several  other  factors,  such  as  families  and 
schools,  were  predictors  of  both  dropout  and  graduation  rates. 

I  am  pleased  that,  under  President  Yudof's  leadership,  UC  is  engaging  in 
collaborative  efforts  with  CSU  and  the  California  Community  Colleges  to  make 
certain  all  of  the  segments  are  working  together  on  this  issue. 


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The  role  of  the  Board  is  to  set  policy  and  oversee  the  administration's 
implementation  of  that  policy.  The  Board  has  affirmed  the  University's  role  in  K- 
12  education  as  an  important  piece  of  our  public  service  mission,  and  addressing 
the  dropout  crisis  in  California  is  a  critical  component  of  that  effort.  As  a  Board 
member,  I  look  forward  to  future  updates  on  this  subject  from  President  Yudof. 


5.       Enhancing  relevance  in  education  unci  providing  students  multiple  options  for 
success  are  crucial  for  curbing  dropouts,  as  well  as  meeting  the  needs  of  our 
economy.  How  can  the  hoard  help  ensure  that  preparing  high  school  students  for 
college  and  career  do  not  continue  to  he  mutually  exclusive  agendas? 

As  a  new  Regent,  I  did  not  have  much  information  on  this  topic,  though  I 
understand  that  the  search  for  solutions  to  the  dropout  problem  is  ongoing. 
Nationally,  states,  school  districts,  and  local  schools  have  identified  a  number  of 
policies,  strategies  and  practices  their  leaders  believe  will  contribute  to  "beating 
the  odds"  in  reducing  dropout  and  increasing  the  graduation  rates  of  affected 
students. 

I  asked  the  Office  of  the  President  for  some  background  information.   I  was 
informed  that  experts  agree  that  there  is  no  one  formula  for  success  but  several 
themes  consistently  emerge,  including  connecting  with  and  engaging  students. 
As  with  all  complex  matters,  no  single  initiative  holds  the  key  to  solving  the  entire 
problem,  however  one  strategy  that  has  been  advanced  for  engaging  students 
and  improving  high  school  outcomes  involves  combining  college-preparatory 
coursework  with  Career  Technical  Education  (CTE).  Some  states,  including 
California,  are  developing  comprehensive  plans  to  combine  CTE  with  college 
preparation.  The  aim  of  these  initiatives  is  to  make  high  school  more  meaningful 
and  motivating  for  an  increasing  number  of  students,  to  increase  graduation 
rates,  and  to  prepare  graduates  for  a  range  of  postsecondary  options  including 
college  and  careers. 

I  also  understand  that,  over  the  last  several  years,  faculty  and  staff  of  the 
University  of  California  have  taken  a  range  of  actions  to  support  the  development 
and  teaching  of  relevant,  academically  rigorous  CTE  courses  in  California  high 
schools.  The  faculty  understands  that  high-quality  CTE  courses  that  combine  the 
rigors  of  college-preparatory  courses  with  the  relevance  of  career  technical 
courses  provide  more  options  to  enhance  student  learning  while  preparing 
students  for  careers  and  advanced  education. 

The  Office  of  the  President  also  provided  the  following  information  regarding 
recent  UC  initiatives  in  support  of  CTE-related  efforts: 

*     In  California  high  schools  in  2008-09,  one  out  of  four  CTE  courses  has 
been  approved  by  the  University  of  California  to  meet  UC/CSU  admissions 


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requirements  -  up  from  less  than  one  percent  in  2001-02.   In  addition,  UC 
works  proactively  with  Regional  Occupational  Centers  and  Programs 
(ROCPs)  and  other  discipline-specific  organizations,  such  as  Project  Lead 
the  Way,  in  the  development  of  strategies  that  facilitate  timely  course 
approval. 

At  the  request  of  the  Legislature  in  2008,  UC  and  CSU  faculty  have 
provided  specific  guidance  for  the  approval  of  academically-rigorous  CTE 
courses  in  the  'g'  elective  subject  area.   CTE  courses  have  been  approved 
in  every  'a-g'  subject  area. 

In  partnership  with  the  California  Department  of  Education,  UC  staff 
annually  provide  numerous  workshops  for  high  school  administrators, 
teachers  and  professional  organizations  around  the  state  to  expedite  the 
preparation  and  review  of  courses. 

The  Board  of  Regents  should  be  regularly  apprised  on  the  status  of  these  efforts, 
and  encourage,  as  appropriate,  the  University's  on-going  involvement  and 
commitment  to  addressing  California's  most  challenging  educational  issues. 


6.       Is  there  a  role  for  the  regents  in  ensuring  thai  more  career  technical  education 
courses  are  approved  as  meeting  the  A  through  G  subject  requirements  necessary 
for  admission? 

The  Office  of  the  President  has  informed  me  that  faculty  are  actively  involved  in  a 
number  of  research-related  dropout  and  CTE-specific  initiatives,  including  the 
work  of  Professor  Russ  Rumberger  (UCSB)  at  the  aforementioned  California 
Dropout  Research  Project  as  well  as  recent  CTE/multiple  pathways  research 
projects  and  reports  coordinated  through  UCLA's  Institute  for  Democracy, 
Education,  and  Access  (IDEA).  While  the  responsibility  for  CTE  coursework  as  it 
relates  to  University  admission  is  the  province  of  the  faculty,  the  Board  of 
Regents  should  be  regularly  informed  on  the  status  of  these  efforts  and 
encourage  both  the  University  and  the  faculty's  continued  commitment  to  CTE 
course-work  and  its  effect  on  addressing  California's  challenging  educational 
issues. 


Secondary  school  programs  such  as  Career  Partnership  Academies  and  small 
career-themed  high,  schools  have  shown  success  in  engaging  at-risk  students  with 
"conlexualized"  or  applied  learning  strategies  that  draw  a  clear  line  from  what 
they  are  gaining  in  high  school  to  what  they  will  need  to  succeed  in  the  adult  world 
of  work.  What  role,  if  any,  should  the  UC  system  play  in  preparing  or  providing 
professional  development  to  aspiring  and  current  secondary  school  teachers  so  that 
they  are  equipped  to  develop  and  lead  such  programs? 


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Through  teacher  institutes,  academic  preparation  programs  and  a  host  of 
intersegmental  and  other  initiatives,  the  University  is  currently  a  partner  in 
helping  schools  strengthen  their  CTE  curriculum  To  the  degree  possible,  these 
efforts  should  be  considered  critical  for  advancing  the  development  and  teaching 
of  academically  rigorous  and  relevant  courses  in  California  high  schools,  and 
should  be  considered  a  priority  for  state  support. 

As  a  new  Regent,  I  asked  the  Office  of  the  President  to  provide  examples  of 
programs  in  this  area.  They  described  for  me  one  such  effort,  the  California 
Subject  Matter  Project,  which  last  year  supported  over  26,000  teachers  (50%  are 
secondary  teachers)  throughout  the  state  by  providing  quality  professional 
development  in  their  content  areas.  Project  work  is  focused  on  assessing 
student  needs  and  designing  support  for  topics  that  are  hard  to  teach  and  hard  to 
learn.  The  Project  focuses  explicitly  on  instructional  access  issues  such  as 
techniques  to  support  English  Learners,  to  increase  academic  literacy  for 
adolescents  and  to  engage  students  in  their  learning. 

The  Office  of  the  President  also  made  me  aware  of  the  California  Writing  Project 
(CWP)  and  its  work  at  UC  Merced  and  CSU  Fresno  to  focus  on  the  needs  of 
migrant  students.   Summer  writing  institutes  are  designed  specifically  for  these 
students  and  teachers  engage  with  students  to  further  their  own  understanding  of 
how  to  develop  young  writers. 


Admission  to  the  University 

UC  admitted  a  record  number  of  freshman  students  for  the  fall  2008  term.  Admission 
oilers  were  sent  to  60.000  California  high  school  seniors,  a  4.7  percent  increase  ol~ 
admitted  students  over  the  fall  2007  term.  Responding  to  insufficient  stale  funding  for 
enrollment  growth  and  continuing  budget  cuts,  in  January  2009  the  board  approved  plans 
to  reduce  enrollment  of  new  California  resident  freshmen  by  2.300  students  system  wide 
for  the  2009-10  year.  Transfer  applications  from  California  community  college  students 
were  allowed  to  increase  by  500  students,  while  graduate  enrollment  will  remain  at  2008- 
09  levels. 

8.       What  is  the  university  doing  to  increase  the  number  of  competitively  eligible 

applicants  to  UC  from  disadvantaged  backgrounds'.'  How  do  the  regents  monitor 
I  he  effectiveness  of  university  K-J2  academic  outreach  programs  in  preparing  these 
students  to  become  competitively  eligible  to  attend  UC  campuses':'  Are  you  satisfied 
that  these  programs  are  preparing  students  to  succeed  once  enrolled  at  a  UC 
campus? 

Working  to  prepare  students  from  disadvantaged  backgrounds  to  embark  on  a 
University  of  California  education  is  one  of  the  most  important  outreach  efforts 
undertaken  by  the  University.  The  University  of  California  has  always  been 
committed  to  improving  college  opportunities  for  these  students  and  recently  has 


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worked  to  update  many  of  its  longstanding  programs  and  strategies  to  ensure 
that  they  can  continue  to  meet  the  academic  preparation  needs  of  California 
students. 

The  University  adheres  to  a  rigorous  accountability  framework  -  developed  in 
concert  with  state  policymakers  -  in  assessing  its  academic  preparation 
programs.  The  framework  contains  common  goals  and  assessment  expectations 
for  the  academic  preparation  programs,  all  centered  on  student  achievement.  All 
programs  must  submit  performance  reports  on  their  progress  toward  meeting 
specific  goals  and  objectives,  and  individual  programs  are  subject  to 
comprehensive  summative  evaluations  by  both  internal  and  external  evaluators 
(provided  there  is  sufficient  funding  for  such  evaluations). 

It  is  clear  that  UC's  programs  are  reaching  students  who  attend  the  state's 
lowest  performing  schools  and  are  achieving  their  goals.   Office  of  the  President 
data  show  that  65%  of  students  in  UC  academic  preparation  programs  go  on  to 
postsecondary  education  compared  to  46.3%  of  California  high  school 
graduates.   In  addition,  program  participants'  retention  and  graduation  rates  are 
comparable  to  those  of  similarly  situated  students  who  did  not  participate  in  these 
programs.   Longitudinal  studies  on  the  University's  programs  document  the 
programs'  effectiveness  in  promoting  student  achievement,  rigorous  course- 
taking  patterns,  and  college  enrollment. 


9.       Freshman  applications  for  fall  2009  arc  up  approximately  3  percent,  and  transfer 
applications  have  increased  by  about  12  percent,  compared  with  last  year. 
Combined  with  lower  admission  targets  at  most  campuses,  students  are  likely  to 
receive  fewer  admission  offers  to  UC  campuses.  How  do  you,  as  a  regent,  balance 
(he  admission  needs  of  eligible  freshmen  and  transfer  students? 

UC  sets  separate  enrollment  targets  for  freshmen  and  transfers.  Targets  are  set 
before  each  year's  budget  is  known  (for  example,  UC  set  targets  and  made 
decisions  for  Fall  2008  in  early  2008,  but  final  funding  levels  were  not  reached 
until  October).   In  2008,  UC  set  targets  assuming  that  the  enrollment  levels  in  the 
Governor's  compact  would  be  funded.  These  targets  provided  full  access  for 
eligible  applicants  at  both  the  freshman  and  the  transfer  levels.   For  2009,  faced 
with  enrollment  of  1 1 ,000  students  for  whom  UC  receives  NO  state  funding,  The 
Regents  have  endorsed  President  Yudof's  recommendation  that  we  begin  to 
scale  back  at  the  freshman  level.  At  the  transfer  level,  however,  we  are 
increasing  our  targets.  Transfer  students  are  a  high  priority  for  President  Yudof, 
and  I  agree  with  him. 


The  board  in  February  2009  adopted  a  new  policy  to  change  freshman  admission 
requirements.  Included  in  the  proposal  is  the  elimination  of  the  requirement  thai 
applicants  take  two  SAT  subject  tests,  and  a  revision  of  the:  guarantee  of  admission  for 


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those  who  are  in  ihe  lop  12.5  percent  of  California  high  school  graduates  to  instead  apply 
10  only  about  the  top  10  percent  of  graduates.  The  proposal  would  also  allow  individual 
campuses  and  majors  to  recommend  certain  subject  tests,  and  guarantee  that  students  who 
are  eliminated  from  consideration  because  of  technical  problems  with  their  applications 
(such  as  a  failure  lo  take  an  SAT  subject  test)  would  have  their  application  reviewed  and 
evaluated. 

II).     Critics  of  I  he  new  policy  worry  thai  il  could  (Increase  diversify  because  the  number 
of  under  represented students  who  fall  within  the  12.5  percent  guarantee  would 
decline  under  the  more  restrictive  admissions  pool.  What  are  your  views  regarding 
the  policy  and  its  impact  on  underrepresented  minority  students? 

My  understanding  is  that,  under  the  new  policy,  the  pool  of  students  guaranteed 
admission  will  be  smaller  and  slightly  less  diverse.   However,  the  UC  Academic 
Senate  has  studied  this  issue  extensively  and  concluded  that  the  pool  of  students 
who  will  be  Entitled  to  Review  is  much  larger  and  more  diverse.   It  is  the 
Academic  Senate's  view  that  the  new  policy  has  the  potential  to  expand  access 
for  underrepresented  students  by  bringing  into  that  larger  review  pool  many 
thousands  of  underrepresented  students  who  would  not  previously  have  been 
guaranteed  a  full  and  comprehensive  review. 

President  Yudof  agrees  with  this  position  and  endorsed  the  proposal  as  a  way  to 
expand  access  without  diminishing  the  quality  of  students  who  enroll.  The 
language  that  The  Regents  used  in  adopting  the  new  policy  emphasizes  that  the 
Academic  Senate  will  need  to  report  back  to  the  Board  on  its  outcomes  and  that 
the  policy  may  be  amended  if  those  outcomes  are  inconsistent  with  our  goals. 

If  at  that  time  we  see  any  evidence  of  a  negative  impact  on  diversity,  I  think  we 
should  immediately  identify  and  address  any  aspects  of  the  policy  that  might 
have  led  to  these  results. 


Student  Fees,  Financial  Aid,  and  College  Affordability 

In  2008  the  board  approved  a  7.4  percent  student  fee  increase  for  the  2008-09  school 
year  for  undergraduate,  graduate,  and  professional  students.  The  university  redirected  33 
percent  of  revenues  generated  by  the  fee  increase  to  financial  aid.  supplementing  other 
financial  aid  sources,  such  as  the  Cal  Grant  program.  In  May  of  this  year,  the  board  is 
expected  to  consider  a  9.3  percent  fee  increase  for  the  2009-10  academic  year.  The 
proposal  would  increase  lees  for  undergraduates  by  $662.  from  $7,126  to  $7,788. 

//   blow  is  UC  addressing  the  growing  concerns  about  college  affordability''  What 
do  you  believe  are  the  challenges  in  crafting  a  student  fee  and  financial  aid  policy 
thai  balances  the  need  to  keep  fees  reasonable,  while  providing  sufficient 
financial  aid  to  help  low--  and  moderate-income  students? 


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As  a  Regent,  raising  fees  is  never  an  easy  decision  and  always  done  as  a  last 
resort.  However,  facing  a  severe  budget  shortfall  as  a  result  of  the  state's  fiscal 
crisis,  the  9.3-percent  fee  increase  was  approved  by  the  Board  of  Regents  as 
just  one  element  in  a  series  of  actions  the  University  and  campuses  have  taken  - 
and  may  need  to  take  yet  -  to  confront  continuing  cuts  in  state  funding  while 
working  to  protect  the  academic  program  and  student  services  as  much  as 
possible. 

It  is  important  to  recognize  that  UC  has  been  very  successful  at  remaining 
financially  accessible  to  students  at  all  income  ranges,  especially  in  comparison 
with  other  institutions.   Even  with  these  fee  increases,  total  charges  for  resident 
undergraduate  and  graduate  students  are  expected  to  remain  well  below  the 
average  of  UC's  public  comparison  institutions. 

For  low-income  students  and  families:  The  University  enrolls  a  significantly 
higher  percent  (32%)  of  low-income  Pell  Grant  recipients  than  any  other 
comparably  selective  institution,  public  or  private.   For  financially  needy 
students — generally,  those  whose  family  incomes  are  below  $45,000 —  grants 
and  scholarships  reduce  UC's  net  cost  of  attendance  to  below  that  of  three  of  the 
University's  four  public  comparison  institutions.  These  and  other  measures  of 
UC's  financial  accessibility  can  be  found  in  the  University's  recently  published 
Accountability  Framework  report. 

In  addition,  according  to  the  Office  of  the  President,  after  several  years  of  no 
increases  in  the  maximum  amount  for  Pell  Grants,  this  year's  federal  stimulus 
package,  the  American  Recovery  and  Reinvestment  Act  (ARRA),  provides  a 
$619  increase  for  2009-10.  The  impact  is  a  $33  million  infusion  of  new  Pell 
Grant  funding  for  UC  students. 

California  is  unique  in  having  both  a  strong  need-based  state  aid  program  in  the 
Cal  Grant,  and  a  strong  institutional  aid  program  at  both  of  the  state's  four-year 
public  university  systems.   UC's  fee  increases  are  fully  offset  by  increases  in  Cal 
Grants  and  UC's  robust  financial  aid  program  also  grows  in  response  to  fee 
increases  through  the  practice  of  setting  aside  a  portion  (currently  33%)  of  new 
revenue  from  fee  increases  to  augment  UC  grants.  Combined  together,  these 
programs  provide  enough  additional  grant  support  for  UC's  low-income  students 
to  cover  increases  in  systemwide  fees. 

For  middle-income  students  and  families:   However,  Cal  Grants  and  UC  grants 
are  not  enough  to  fully  maintain  UC's  financial  accessibility.  For  middle-income 
families  who  do  not  qualify  for  need-based  grants,  moderation  in  fee  increases  is 
important.  Although  middle-income  families  have  continued  to  enroll  at  UC 
despite  past  fee  increases,  these  families  do  typically  have  to  absorb  the  brunt  of 
any  fee  increases.   In  recognition  of  this,  for  several  years  now,  UC  has  covered 
half  of  the  fee  increase  for  students  whose  family  incomes  are  between  $60,000- 
$100,000  and  who  are  not  otherwise  getting  aid  to  mitigate  fee  increases. 


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Federal  tuition  tax  credits  are  another  form  of  assistance  usually  available  to 
middle-income  families  to  assist  with  their  costs,  although  tax  credits  have  not 
typically  offset  fee  increases.  This  year's  federal  stimulus  package  is  an 
exception  to  this  pattern.  The  ARRA  has  provided  an  unprecedented  increase  in 
tax  credit  eligibility — both  increasing  the  amount  of  the  credit  for  current 
recipients  (an  increase  of  $700,  which  is  more  than  the  2009-10  UC  fee  increase 
of  $662)  and  extending  eligibility  to  families  with  incomes  up  to  $180,000.  Thus 
for  2009-10,  this  expansion  in  tax  credit  eligibility  is  providing  most  families  with 
incomes  up  to  $180,000  relief  from  UC's  2009-10  fee  increase. 

Additional  UC  initiatives  and  efforts:  Many  families  are  simply  unaware  of  the 
availability  of  various  sources  of  financial  aid,  so  communicating  that  UC  is 
financially  accessible  is  as  important  as  ensuring  that  financial  resources  are 
available  to  low-  and  moderate-income  families.   Families  of  prospective  UC 
students  need  to  understand  and  believe  that  financial  aid  resources  are 
available  for  them  so  that  concerns  about  paying  for  a  UC  education  will  not 
deter  students  from  aspiring  to  a  UC  education. 

A  multi-pronged  approach  is  needed  to  get  the  message  out,  but  a  centerpiece  of 
the  communication  effort  is  the  Blue  and  Gold  Opportunity  Plan  that  President 
Yudof  introduced  and  The  Regents  endorsed  this  past  year.  The  Blue  and  Gold 
message  is  simple — students  from  financially  needy  families  whose  incomes  are 
below  $60,000  need  not  worry  about  how  they  will  cover  UC's  systemwide  fees 
Under  the  Blue  and  Gold  Opportunity  Plan  such  families  will  receive  scholarship 
or  grant  assistance  that,  at  a  minimum,  fully  covers  UC's  systemwide  fees.  The 
goal  now  is  to  implement  a  communication  strategy  that  will  get  this  message  out 
to  all  California  families  with  incomes  below  $60,000. 


The  Legislative  Analyst's  Office  estimates  thai  students  at  California  public  colleges  and 

universities  will  receive  about  $500  million  in  additional  Pell  Granl  funding  nexl  year, 
through  the  American  Recovery  and  Reinvestment  Act  (ARRA).  Colleges  and 
universities  will  also  receive  an  estimated  $20  million  in  additional  work-study  Hinds. 

Tax  credits  have  also  been  increased  to  reimburse  students  for  more  college  expenses. 

12.  Does  the  university  take  into  consideration  federal  financial  aid  programs  in 

selling  fees? 

UC  raises  fees  reluctantly  when  revenue  is  needed  to  compensate  for  state 
budget  cuts  affecting  the  ability  of  UC  to  deliver  a  quality  education  to  its 
students.   UC  does  not  raise  fees  just  because  additional  federal  resources  are 
available.   However,  the  fact  that  there  is  a  variety  of  financial  assistance 
available  helps  mitigate  the  impact  of  fee  increases  that  are  necessary  as  the 
state  subsidy  for  educational  costs  decline. 


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All  resources,  such  as  federal  financial  aid  programs  and  tuition  tax  credits,  are 
included  in  evaluating  the  impact  of  fee  increases  on  students  and  their  families. 
Additional  federal  resources,  along  with  additional  Cal  Grant  and  UC  grant  funds, 
help  mitigate  the  impact  of  fee  increases. 


13.  To  what  extent  do  yon  believe  the  Legislature  and  Governor  should  he  purl  of 
UC's  decisions  about  fees'/ 

The  Governor  and  Legislature  already  have  a  considerable  impact  on  UC's 
budget  and  therefore  its  decisions  about  setting  fees.   I  believe  that  the  current 
arrangement  is  a  reasonable  balance  of  responsibility. 


14.  Are  the  regents  exploring  what  can  be  done  to  help  students  cover  other 
fast-growing,  non-fee  costs,  such  as  hooks  and  supplies,  room  and  board, 
transportation,  and  health  care9  What  options  are  you  reviewing,  if  any? 

As  mentioned  above,  one  approach  is  to  ensure  that  the  value  of  the  grant 
assistance  to  UC  students  keeps  pace,  not  just  with  fee  increases,  but  with  total 
cost  increases.   Unlike  Cal  Grants  and  UC  grants,  which  are  augmented  when 
fees  increase,  no  financial  aid  program  "automatically"  grows  in  response  to 
other  cost  increases.  Thus  UC  needs  to  continue  advocacy  efforts  for  increases 
in  Pell  Grants  and  other  grant  programs  to  maintain  the  overall  value  of  the 
financial  aid  available  to  UC  students. 

In  addition,  UC  needs  to  pursue  efforts  to  contain  non-fee  cost  increases  in  those 
areas  where  the  University  has  some  control.  The  Office  of  the  President  has 
shared  with  me  information  that  UC  campuses  are  actively  engaged,  in 
partnership  with  student  groups,  on  helping  students  learn  about  cost-effective 
ways  to  keep  their  textbook  expenditures  down.  A  recent  Bureau  of  State  Audit 
report  indicates  that  students  are  compensating  for  rising  textbook  costs  by 
utilization  of  used  textbooks  and  less  expensive  on-line  purchases,  thereby 
keeping  increases  in  their  actual  out-of-pocket  book  expenditures  to  a  minimum. 
In  addition,  UC  is  exploring  the  possibility  of  a  systemwide  contract  for  graduate 
student  health  insurance  which  would  increase  the  size  of  the  covered  student 
pool,  thereby  reducing  costs  and  improving  coverage  over  current  campus-based 
contracts.   Campuses  are  also  aware  of  the  impact  of  higher  room-and-board 
costs  on  students  and  are  minimizing  those  costs  when  possible.   For  instance, 
UC  San  Diego  has  foregone  cost  increases  in  their  on-campus  housing  charges 
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Accountability 

Last  year  UC  issued  a  dratl  accountability  report  that  represents  the  first  effort  to 
comprehensively  assess  and  present  to  the  public  the  UC  system's  progress  in  meeting 
key  teaching,  research,  and  public  service  goals  across  its  ten  campuses.  The  report  is 
being  issued  as  a  draft  for  discussion  and  is  now  into  a  period  of  review  and  comment. 
The  report  is  intended  to  provide  transparency  and  will  be  used  to  help  guide  strategic 
planning,  budgeting,  and  performance  management. 

15.      What  is  the  slahts  of  (he  draft  accountability  report?  In  your  view,  how  will  the 
report  assist  the  hoard  as  it  focuses  on  important  policy  issues  confronting 
UC  system  wide  and  on  individual  campuses7 

I  consider  the  accountability  report  to  be  the  single  most  important  document  I 
have  received  as  a  Regent.  I  am  extremely  supportive  of  President  Yudof's  push 
for  accountability  and  am  encouraged  by  his  efforts.  The  report  was  provided  to 
the  Board  this  month  and  is  available  on-line. 

The  accountability  report  is  a  major  initiative.   President  Yudof  and  the  Board 
agree  that  it  is  critical  to  give  parents,  students,  elected  officials,  and  taxpayers  a 
clear  picture  of  the  performance  of  the  UC  system — its  successes  and  its 
challenges,  as  well  as  its  failures. 

The  report  will  be  useful  for  a  number  of  audiences.   It  will  give  you  and  other 
policymakers  the  means  to  track  issues  of  concern,  such  as  affordability, 
diversity,  and  research  competitiveness.   It  will  enable  you  to  measure  the 
investment  of  public  dollars  in  UC.   It  will  allow  prospective  students  and  their 
parents  to  research  graduation  rates  and  indicators  of  student  satisfaction  and 
enable  them  to  make  informed  choices. 

But  the  most  important  value  may  be  to  the  Board.  The  report  is  a  governance 
tool  that  will  give  us  the  ability  to  assess  the  value  and  effectiveness  of  the 
administration's  actions  to  meet  the  goals  we  set  as  a  Board.  The  report  will 
provide  us  with  the  information  to  formulate  the  right  questions  to  be  asking  to 
pursue  a  line  of  inquiry  that  brings  the  critical  issues  into  sharp  relief.  For 
example,  the  report  shows  how  many  upper-division  California  Community 
College  students  the  University  has  admitted  over  time  compared  to  freshmen, 
by  campus.   It  also  shows  admit  rates  of  both  freshman  and  transfer  students  by 
race/ethnicity  and  allows  us  to  examine  the  success  of  these  transfer  students 
compared  to  entering  freshmen. 

In  addition,  the  report  will  give  us  the  data  to  inform  policy  and  budget  decisions 
and  debates.  We  can,  for  example,  use  data  in  the  report  to  look  at  changes  in 
the  per-student  average  expenditures  for  education  over  time  or  examine 
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perform  compared  to  lecturers.  These  are  all  policy  issues  that  we  will  be  very 
closely  monitoring  in  these  difficult  budgetary  times. 

It  is  very  difficult  to  evaluate  UC  performance  in  a  vacuum.   In  the  absence  of 
comparative  benchmarks,  the  tendency  is  to  adopt  a  UC-centric  view  of  higher 
education.  The  accountability  report  offers  comparative  data  and  enables  us  to 
put  the  administration's  recommendations  in  a  national  frame  and  thus  offers  the 
Board  new  ways  to  think  about  the  University's  future. 

As  in  any  large  organization  striving  for  accountability  and  transparency,  UC  will 
never  be  done.   President  Yudof  has  accomplished  a  tremendous  amount  toward 
this  effort  in  his  short  tenure  and  I  look  forward  to  working  together  on  this 
process. 


16.  At  each  regents  '  mealing,  one  campus  makes  a  presentation  on  its  strategic  plan. 
As  a  new  regent,  what  is  your  view  of  (he  most  difficult  challenges  confronting 
campuses  that  have  emerged  from  these  presentations? 

To  date,  only  two  campuses  have  made  presentations  -  Irvine  in  January  and 
Berkeley  in  February.   But  even  with  only  two  campus  presentations,  the  most 
difficult  issue  facing  all  10  UC  campuses  is  the  urgent  need  to  balance  the 
realities  of  the  current  economic  crisis  and  resulting  budget  cuts,  with  the  need  to 
continue  UC's  mission  of  maintaining  access  and  excellence  in  delivering 
research,  education,  and  public  service.  Now  more  than  ever,  the  University 
needs  the  Legislature's  and  the  Governor's  support. 


UC  Governance  and  Decision  Making 

UC  has  been  criticized  for  several  years  for  not  fully  disclosing  compensation  packages 
provided  to  top  management  that  have  been  well  above  the  amount  publicly  reported  us 
Lheir  base  salaries.  In  response,  the  university  has  repeatedly  committed  to  maintain  lull 
public  disclosure,  transparency,  and  accountability,  in  early  2008  the  Western 
Association  of  Schools  and  Colleges  (WASC)  reported  that  the  UC  system  has  significant 
problems  in  governance,  leadership,  and  decision  making.  It  reported  confusion 
surrounding  the  roles  and  responsibilities  of  the  university  president,  the  regents,  and  the 
10  campus  chancellors. 

As  part  of  an  effort  to  restructure  and  downsize  the  central  administrative  operations  of 
the  UC  system,  the  university  offered  a  Voluntary  Separation  Program  to  employees  at 
the  Office  of  the  President  in  January  2008.  Some  employees  who  accepted  a  financial 
buyout  to  leave  the  Office  of  the  President  were  immediately  reemployed  elsewhere  in 
the  university,  with  no  impact  on  the  amount  of  their  buyout. 

1 7,   How  do  the  regents  slay  informed  of  the  university  's  compensation  policies? 
What  is  i  he  university's  policy  regarding  rehiring  retired  pensioners?  Do  you 


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believe  regents  are  kepi  sufficiently  Informed  regarding  campus  hiring  practices? 
Is  the  public  sufficiently  informed? 

I  believe  the  University  of  California  is  more  transparent  in  its  compensation  and 
hiring  policies  than  most  other  public  entities,  including  government  agencies  and 
public  institutions.   I  am  very  pleased  with  the  efforts  of  the  University  of 
California  to  continue  to  enhance  its  transparency  in  compensation  policies. 
Currently,  The  Regents  review  and  approve  all  policies  and  compensation 
actions  for  members  of  the  University's  Senior  Management  Group  (SMG),  as 
well  as  compensation  actions  for  other  employees  with  salaries  over  $275,000. 
This  amounts  to  approximately  374  employees  in  senior  leadership  positions.  As 
part  of  its  commitment  to  transparency  and  public  accountability,  the  University 
also  provides  an  annual  report  to  The  Regents  on  compensation  paid  to  senior 
managers.  Consistent  with  legislative  requirements,  the  report  details  all  aspects 
of  senior  management  compensation,  and  it  is  also  posted  on  UC  websites  to 
provide  public  access  to  the  information. 

I  was  not  a  Regent  at  the  time  the  2008  Voluntary  Separation  Program  (VSP) 
was  put  in  place.   However,  I  am  aware  that  the  goals  of  the  program,  developed 
by  the  UC  Office  of  the  President,  was  to  reduce  headcount  and  long-term  salary 
costs  at  the  Office  of  the  President.  Despite  its  appropriate  goals,  the  2008  VSP, 
which  was  not  developed  by  the  Board,  suffered  from  problems  that  were 
recognized  by  the  Board  and  by  new  President  Yudof.  As  a  result,  in  April  2009, 
the  President  established  implementation  guidelines  for  campus  voluntary 
separation  programs,  including  provisions  requiring  repayment  of  any  severance 
payments  on  a  pro  rata  basis  for  employees  finding  new  work  elsewhere  within 
the  University.   I  believe  President  Yudof  has  addressed  and  rectified  this 
problem. 

In  addition,  to  ensure  the  effectiveness  of  the  University's  practices  regarding  the 
reemployment  of  retirees,  the  University  enacted  a  new  policy  for  retired  UC 
employees  who  return  to  UC  in  staff  or  senior  management  positions.  The 
University's  policy  aims  to  ensure  compliance  with  Internal  Revenue  Service 
rules  regarding  defined  benefit  pension  plans  such  as  the  UC  Retirement  Plan 
(UCRP),  while  continuing  to  give  managers  the  flexibility  to  call  on  a  valued 
resource — retired  employees— when  needed.   Key  elements  of  the  new  policy 
include  limits  on  the  percent  of  time  and  duration  of  employment,  approval 
authority,  and  reporting  requirements. 

Again,  my  belief  is  that  UC  is  transparent  in  its  compensation  and  hiring  policies. 
In  addition  to  the  policies  mentioned  above,  The  Regents  receive  regular  reports 
on  many  issues  including  the  status  of  UC  hospitals  and  President  Yudof  s 
correspondence  on  matters  of  interest  to  the  Board. 


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IS.  Arc  you  satisfied  ihaf  UC  is  faking  sufficient  steps  to  address  WASC's  eoneerns 
regarding  UC's  governance  structure  and  business  practices?  What  remains  to  he 
done  in  addressing  issues  raised  in  the  WASi  '  report'.' 

As  a  new  Regent,  I  have  not  been  deeply  engaged  in  addressing  the  issues 
WASC  has  raised  over  the  last  two  years.  However,  like  all  members  of  the 
Board,  I  have  been  apprised  of  the  issues.   From  the  information  that  has  been 
supplied  me,  I  understand  that: 

«     The  final  report  from  the  Western  Association  of  Schools  and  Colleges 
(WASC)  commended  the  University  for  the  many  steps  it  has  taken  to 
address  the  compensation  issue  raised  in  recent  years  and  for  its 
awareness  of  the  need  to  maintain  transparency  and  conformity  with 
policies  while  continuing  to  recruit  the  best  personnel  possible.   In  light  of 
that  conclusion,  the  changes  in  compensation  practices  are  not  detailed 
here,  but  can  be  provided  if  the  Committee  so  requests. 
Regarding  governance,  the  University  commissioned  a  working  group 
(chaired  by  a  campus  chancellor  and  facilitated  by  an  independent 
consultant)  to  evaluate  the  proper  roles  of  Regents,  the  President,  and  the 
campuses.  The  Board's  Committee  on  Governance  endorsed  this  report 
in  January  2008. 

•  The  Board  created  the  Committee  on  Governance  to  re-evaluate  Board 
governance  principles.  As  a  result  of  the  committee's  work,  the  Board  has 
adopted  new  policies  governing  Regental  education  and  evaluation  as 
well  as  new  standards  governing  expectations  of  individual  Regents  and 
the  Board. 

«     The  Board  established  a  new  senior  vice  president  for  compliance  and 
audit  as  a  direct  report  to  the  Board  for  the  specific  purpose  of  ensuring  a 
more  robust  audit  and  compliance  system  and  proper  review  of 
transactions  for  policy  compliance. 

•  The  Board  adopted  a  detailed  process  for  evaluation  of  the  President's 
performance  (and  that  of  other  direct  reports  to  the  Board). 

In  terms  of  work  that  remains,  I  am  advised  that  a  WASC  team  will  be  conducting 
a  site  visit  in  early  October.  The  team  will  be  meeting  with  senior  management 
and  key  Regents  and  will  then  issue  a  report,  which  WASC  will  then  consider.   I 
anticipate  the  site  visit  will  recognize  the  Board  of  Regents'  continuing 
governance  refinements. 


In  January  2009  the  Board  adopted  a  plan  to  freeze  the  salaries  of  UC's  top 
administrators,  as  well  as  canceled  pending  bonus  payments  to  employees  at  the  senior 
management  level  through  2009-10.  More  recently,  however,  the  Board  granted  pay 
increases,  as  much  as  22  percent,  to  several  senior  managers,  appointed  two  new 
executives,  and  authorized  paid  administrative  leaves  to  two  former  campus  chancellors. 


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19.  How  does  the  board  balance  the  need  to  attract  and  retain  qualified  senior  staff, 
while  at  the  same  lime  providing  management  effectiveness  and  accountability 
against  a  backdrop  of  reduced  slate  financial  support  and  likely  increase  of 
student  fees ' 

President  Yudof  has  worked  earnestly  to  implement  real  cost-saving  measures  at 
the  University  of  California.  These  measures  include  a  systemwide  freeze  on 
senior  managers'  salaries,  cuts  in  bonuses  and  incentive  pay,  and  a  significant 
and  real  reduction  of  the  budget  at  the  Office  of  the  President  in  Oakland — a 
reduction  of  $67  million  and  628  in  staff  headcount  over  the  last  two  years 
through  program  transfers,  layoffs  and  vacancy  control.   In  addition,  UC 
campuses  are  curtailing  faculty  recruitment,  in  many  cases  by  50  percent  or 
more;  reducing  hiring  of  non-teaching  staff;  severely  limiting  spending  on 
nonessential  costs  such  as  travel;  consolidating  or  eliminating  programs;  and 
looking  for  efficiencies  across  their  administrative  organizations  -  while  working 
to  minimize  cuts  to  student  programs. 

However,  I  believe  that  President  Yudof  must  have  the  Board's  full  support  to 
create  a  leadership  team  of  outstanding  administrators  capable  of  guiding  the 
University  through  the  toughest  economic  times  it  has  ever  seen.  With 
increasingly  reduced  state  financial  support,  it  is  necessary  to  grant  the  President 
some  flexibility  in  his  efforts  to  craft  a  team  of  highly  competent  managers.   I 
applaud  his  efforts  to  do  this  while  at  the  same  time  reducing  the  budget  of  the 
Office  of  the  President  by  $67  million.   I  know  from  my  own  experience  in  the 
private  sector  that  doing  more  with  fewer  resources  is  a  daunting  task. 

It  is  important  to  note  that  none  of  the  new  executive  hires  has  been  paid  in 
excess  of  current  market  rates.  One  existing  employee  has  been  asked  to  fill  two 
vice  presidential  roles  for  the  salary  of  one,  saving  UC  roughly  $320,000  per 
year.  Another  has  been  hired  to  serve  as  chief  financial  officer,  at  a  salary  well 
below  the  going  rate  for  CFOs,  to  ensure  strong  financial  management  and  to 
identify  more  smart  ways  for  the  University  to  save  money.   Our  newly  appointed 
Chancellor  at  UCSF  is  another  example  of  an  individual,  with  impeccable 
credentials  to  lead  this  world-class  institution,  who  chose  to  leave  a  much  more 
lucrative  position  in  the  private  sector  and  join  the  University  to  advance  its  public 
mission. 

As  a  Regent,  I  am  committed  to  keeping  the  University  of  California  accountable 
to  the  public  and  policymakers.   However,  I  am  also  committed  to  allowing  for  the 
necessary  flexibility  to  make  the  decisions  we  need  to  hire  the  best  people  and  to 
preserve  UC  as  a  strong  institution  for  California. 


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Research  Funding 

Both  the  Governor  and  Legislature  have  articulated  the  importance  of  transitioning  the 
stale  from  a  high  carbon  economy  to  a  new  energy  economy.  Green  technology  may  be 
the  next  '"high  lech  industry"  thai  Fuels  California's  economic  engine.  Yet  there  appears 
to  be  a  need  for  greater  coordination  and  strategic  investment  of  state  research 
development  and  demonstration  funds  to  meet  stale  energy  and  environmental  priorities. 

20.  What  steps  has  UC  taken  to  coordinate  private  and  publicly  [muled  energy  and 
environmental  research,  development,  and  demonstration  In  ensure  the  state 
achieves  the  greatest  benefit  from  those  expenditures? 

It  is  the  responsibility  of  UC  and  The  Regents  to  make  sure  we  do  all  we  can  to 
maximize  every  dollar — federal,  state,  public  and  private — including  the  funding 
that  we  receive  for  research  and  development  in  the  areas  of  energy  and 
environmental  research.  Much  of  the  energy  and  environmental-related  research 
that  takes  place  throughout  the  UC  system  is  funded  by  federal  funds  (over  half 
of  total  UC  research  funding  comes  from  federal  government  sources,  and  an 
additional  20%  comes  from  private  sources).  Through  successfully  competing 
for  federal  research  awards  in  these  areas,  the  University  brings  significant 
amounts  of  federal  funding  into  the  State. 

This  is  an  area  that  I  am  passionate  about.  Over  the  last  15  years,  I  have 
worked  on  various  efforts  with  different  organizations  to  reduce  our  nation's 
dependence  on  fossil  fuels  and  explore  alternative  energy  sources.   In  May  2008, 
I  chaired  and  organized  a  non-partisan  energy  symposium,  which  was  co- 
sponsored  by  UC  Irvine,  Milken  Institute,  and  the  New  Majority's  Energy  Task 
Force  and  attended  by  Governor  Schwarzenegger,  Attorney  General  Brown, 
other  elected  officials,  business  leaders,  and  some  of  the  best  scientists  in  the 
world.   I  believe  that  UC  must  play  a  major  role  in  advancing  research  and 
innovation  in  green  technology  and  energy  alternatives  for  the  good  of  California, 
the  nation,  and  the  world. 

Most  of  the  federal  and  privately  funded  research  conducted  at  UC  is  responsive 
to  requests  for  proposals  for  work  in  a  specific  substantive  area     While  issues  of 
interest  to  the  nation  are  likely  also  of  interest  to  California,  the  University  does 
not  have  the  flexibility  to  shift  the  emphasis  of  a  research  grant  to  allocate  more 
research  funding  to  California  priorities.  That  said,  many  of  the  University's  R&D 
projects  in  these  areas  focus  on  matters  of  significant  concern  and  relevance  to 
California.  The  results  of  investigations  into  broad  areas  like  alternative  fuels  and 
carbon  emissions  can  be  used  to  help  address  California  goals  such  as  reducing 
carbon  emissions.  There  are  also  more  targeted  R&D  programs  that  focus 
specifically  on  research  questions  of  relevance  to  California.  The  Office  of  the 
President  offers  as  examples  research  funded  by  UC's  California  Institute  for 
Energy  Efficiency,  which  has  done  work  specifically  related  to  California's  Global 


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Warming  Solutions  Act,  regional  carbon  sequestration  projects,  hydropower 
within  California,  and  many  other  research  areas  directly  related  to  State  needs. 

The  University's  extensive  work  in  these  areas  can  help  the  state  meet  its  energy 
and  environmental  challenges,  particularly  in  coordination  with  work  being  done 
by  state  agencies  like  the  California  Air  Resources  Board  and  the  California 
Energy  Commission,  that  play  a  key  role  in  shaping  state  and  environmental 
policy.  There  are  many  University  researchers  who  work  closely  with  those  and 
other  agencies,  participating  in  and  contributing  their  expertise  to  projects  of 
importance  to  the  State. 

Further  coordination  among  private  and  publicly  funded  energy  and 
environmental  research  would  be  enabled  by  establishment  of  a  California 
Climate  Institute,  which  is  the  subject  of  pending  state  legislation  -  SB  128.   I  am 
informed  that  the  University  of  California  is  actively  working  with  other  academic 
and  research  institutions  around  the  state  to  support  this  measure,  which  would 
create  a  California  Climate  Institute  to  catalyze  and  fund  research  and  workforce 
education  in  areas  related  to  climate  change.  The  institute  could  serve  as  a 
vehicle  for  extending  and  improving  deployment  and  expenditure  of  R&D  funds  in 
research  areas  that  would  help  the  state  meet  its  ambitious  goals  related  to 
carbon  reduction  and  climate  change  mitigation.  There  are  still  a  number  of 
details  to  be  worked  out  about  this  proposal,  but  I  cite  it  here  as  one  kind  of 
creative  effort  in  which  the  University  can  be  involved  to  help  ensure  that 
research  funding  is  directed  toward  areas  that  can  help  the  state  meet  its  energy 
and  environmental  challenges. 


21.  How  do  you.  as  a  regent,  assure  that  UC's  research  agenda  is  robust  and  directed 
toward  assisting  in  maintaining  a  strong  California  economy  without  interfering 
with  respected  principles  of  academic  freedom?  Please  be  as  specific  as  possible. 

The  University  of  California  is  universally  recognized  as  a  world-class  research 
institution,  with  faculty  who  are  leaders  in  their  fields  across  a  variety  of 
disciplines.  As  the  state's  primary  research  institution,  UC  research  has  long 
played  an  important  role  in  maintaining  a  strong  California  economy.  For 
example,  UC  research  helps  boost  the  state  economy  by  attracting  almost  $3 
billion  annually  in  federal  funds  and  over  $180  million  annually  from  private 
companies.  This  research  helps  create  new  products,  improves  productivity  and 
leads  to  the  creation  of  well-paid  jobs  in  California. 

The  Office  of  the  President  indicates  that  the  University  has  been  highly 
successful  in  leveraging  state  funds,  obtaining  federal  and  private  funds  to 
conduct  research  that  benefits  California.   Some  research  collaborations 
between  UC  campuses  and  private  enterprise,  such  as  the  four  California 
Institutes  of  Science  and  Innovation,  have  been  deliberately  cultivated  through 
public-private  partnerships.  These  Institutes  were  launched  with  state  matching 


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funds  to  foster  economic  growth  through  joint  UC-industry  research  in 
biomedicine,  nanotechnology,  telecommunications,  information  technology  and 
other  technologies.  Although  the  state's  current  economic  crisis  is  quite  serious, 
it  is  my  hope  as  a  Regent  that  it  may  be  possible  in  the  near  future  to  include 
other  research  initiatives  as  part  of  future  University  of  California  budget 
proposals.  My  belief  is  that  funding  for  research  is  an  excellent  investment  that 
contributes  to  the  state's  economy  and  to  the  quality  of  life  of  its  people. 

I  believe  that  maintaining  the  strength  of  our  faculty  is  key  to  ensuring  that  the 
University's  research  agenda  remains  robust.   UC  faculty  and  researchers  are 
among  the  best  in  the  world.  A  total  of  49  UC  faculty  and  researchers  have  won 
Nobel  prizes,  including  17  prizes  since  1995.  589  UC  scientists  and  engineers 
have  been  elected  to  the  National  Academy  of  Science,  the  National  Academy  of 
Engineering,  and  the  Institute  of  Medicine.   Forty-four  UC  scientists  have  won  the 
National  Medal  of  Science  (US's  highest  award  for  lifetime  achievement  in 
science). 

Respecting  the  principle  of  academic  freedom  is  key  to  maintaining  a  strong 
faculty.  Academic  freedom  is,  indeed,  a  core  University  value,  and  it  is  essential 
to  ensure  that  faculty  are  free  to  pursue  and  disseminate  knowledge  in  their 
chosen  areas  of  inquiry.  As  a  Regent,  I  am  committed  to  upholding  that  freedom, 
and  I  do  not  believe  that  conflicts  with  ensuring  that  UC's  research  agenda 
remains  robust. 


22.  The  Legislative  Analyst  s  Office  estimates  thai  California  universities  will  be 
eligible  to  compete  for  over  $J  billion  in  funding  for  federal  research  grunts  from 
ARRA.  Will  the  board  be  kept  informed  of  campus  or  programmatic  efforts  to 
obtain  federal  funds7  Will  there  be  any  system  wide  direction  given  to  campuses 
with  respect  to  applying  for  these  competitive  funds? 

The  federal  stimulus  bill  did,  indeed,  make  significant  funding  available  for  federal 
research  awards,  and  we  expect  that  the  University  of  California  will  be  very 
competitive  for  much  of  this  funding.  Estimates  are  that  the  American  Recovery 
and  Reinvestment  Act  (ARRA)  made  available  a  total  of  $21.5  billion  in  federal 
research  and  development  funding  -  $18  billion  for  the  conduct  of  research,  and 
$3.5  billion  for  research  facilities  and  capital  equipment.   Since  federal  research 
support  has  been  declining  in  real  terms  since  FY  2004,  the  final  stimulus  bill 
provides  an  immediate  boost  that  will  allow  federal  research  funding  to  see  a  real 
increase  for  the  first  time  in  five  years. 

This  is  good  news  for  UC,  because  federal  funds  account  for  over  half  of  the 
University's  research  expenditures.   It  is  difficult  to  know  exactly  how  much 
research  money  the  University  of  California  will  ultimately  receive  from  the 
ARRA.   However,  the  Office  of  the  President  expects  the  University  to  be  very 
successful  in  competing  for  these  funds,  based  on  the  excellent  track  record  of 


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our  campuses.   I  have  been  informed  that  65%  of  the  University's  2007  federal 
research  awards  came  from  just  two  federal  agencies  -  Health  &  Human 
Services  (primarily  through  NIH)  and  the  National  Science  Foundation  (NSF). 
Both  of  these  agencies  received  large  increases  in  the  stimulus  bill.   NIH 
received  $10.4  billion  in  stimulus  funding,  increasing  its  funding  for  research 
awards  by  about  one-third.   NSF  received  $3  billion,  about  a  50%  increase  over 
2008  budgeted  levels.   Based  on  UC's  historic  rate  of  successfully  competing  for 
funds  from  these  two  agencies,  a  very  rough  estimate  is  that  UC  might  expect  to 
capture  over  $700  million  in  stimulus  funding  from  these  two  agencies  alone.  In 
addition,  UC  expects  to  compete  well  for  ARRA  funding  from  the  Department  of 
Energy,  NASA,  the  National  Oceanic  and  Atmospheric  Administration,  and  other 
agencies  that  received  ARRA  funding. 

Because  the  University  understands  the  need  to  be  able  to  report  -  to  The 
Regents,  to  federal  agencies,  and  to  the  public  -  on  the  amount  and  use  of 
ARRA  funding  the  University  receives,  the  UC  Office  of  the  President  has  led  a 
systemwide  effort  to  modify  campus  and  central  office  data  systems  to  allow 
separate  tracking  of  ARRA-related  awards  and  expenditures.  As  the  ARRA 
funding  process  continues  to  move  ahead,  it  is  my  intention  to  ask  President 
Yudof  to  provide  regular  reports  to  the  Board  on  the  University's  progress  in 
competing  for  ARRA  research  funding  and  the  use  of  ARRA  funding. 


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MEMBERS 
SAM  AANESTAD 

VICE-CHAIR 

GILBERT  CEDILLO 
ROBERT  DUTTON 
JENNY  OROPEZA 


California  Legislature 


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Senate  Rules  Committee 


GREGORY  SCHMIDT 

SECRETARY  OP  THE  SENATE 

NETTIE  SABELHAUS 

APPOINTMENTS  DIRECTOR 


DARRELL  STEINBERG 

CHAIRMAN 


May  5,  2009 


William  Hauck 


Dear  Mr.  Hauck: 

The  Senate  Rules  Committee  will  conduct  a  confirmation  hearing  on  your  appointment 
as  a  member  of  the  California  State  University  (CSU)  Board  of  Trustees  on  Wednesday, 
June  10,  2009.  We  request  that  you  appear.  The  meeting  will  begin  at  1:30  p.m.  in 
Room  113  of  the  State  Capitol. 

We  have  prepared  the  following  questions  to  which  we  would  appreciate  your  written 
responses.  Please  provide  your  responses  by  May  26th. 

We  would  also  like  to  receive  an  updated  Form  700,  Statement  of  Economic  Interest,  by 
May  26th. 

Background 

The  CSU  system  consists  of  23  campuses,  almost  450,000  students,  and  47,000  faculty 
and  staff.  The  system  is  directed  by  the  Master  Plan  for  Higher  Education  to  select 
first-time  freshmen  from  the  top  one-third  of  graduates  of  California  public  high  schools. 

Statement  of  Goals 

1.  Please  provide  a  brief  statement  detailing  the  accomplishments  you  have  achieved 
while  serving  as  a  member  of  the  CSU  Board  of  Trustees,  as  well  as  remaining 
goals  you  hope  to  accomplish  while  continuing  to  serve  on  the  board.  How  do  you 
measure  your  success  as  a  board  member? 

2.  How  do  you  evaluate  the  extent  to  which  the  CSU  system  is  succeeding  in  its 
mission?  What  yardsticks  are  most  important  to  you  as  you  make  this 
determination? 


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3.  Some  1 20, 000  young  people  drop  out  of  high  school  and  middle  school  annually  in 
California.  What  role,  if  any,  should  CSU  play  in  turning  the  dropout  crisis  around? 
How  does  the  board  weigh  in  on  what  should  be  done? 

Governing  Board  Oversight 

The  board  is  charged  with  developing  system-wide  policies  and  overseeing  their 
implementation.  In  November  2007  the  California  State  Auditor  released  a  critical  report 
of  CSU's  executive  compensation  policies.  Among  its  findings,  the  audit  concluded  that 
the  university  failed  to  adequately  monitor  its  compensation  policies  and  continued  to 
justify  increases  in  executive  compensation,  based  on  questionable  methodology.  In 
response  to  the  compensation  audit,  CSU  concurred  in  nearly  all  instances  with  the 
auditor's  recommendations. 

In  November  2008  Chancellor  Charles  Reed  approved  salary  increases  of  up  to 
1 9  percent  for  9  vice  presidents  at  4  of  CSU's  23  campuses,  and  approved  1 1  new 
appointments  of  vice  presidents  at  9  campuses.  A  committee  of  the  board  reviewed  the 
same  pay  raises  and  endorsed  separate  salary  raises  for  additional  individuals. 

4.  What  role  does  the  board  play  in  reviewing  and  approving  executive  compensation 
policies?  Does  the  board  periodically  review  and  reassess  these  policies? 

5.  What  is  the  board  doing  to  reevaluate  its  overall  capacity  to  oversee  and  hold  the 
system  accountable  on  matters  of  compensation  and  other  key  issues? 

6.  How  does  the  board  balance  the  need  to  attract  and  retain  qualified  senior  staff, 
while  at  the  same  time  providing  management  effectiveness  and  accountability 
against  a  backdrop  of  reduced  state  support  and  likely  increase  of  student  fees? 

7.  Do  you  think  CSU  has  adhered  to  the  auditor's  recommendations  that  CSU 
committed  to  adopt?  If  not,  why  not?  What  issues  are  still  outstanding  and  need  to 
be  addressed? 

8.  When  the  university  receives  no  funding  for  cost  of  living  increases  (as  is  the  case 
in  2008-09),  the  university  must  shift  funds  from  other  sources  in  order  to  cover 
any  cost  of  living  increase  that  it  chooses  to  grant.  Where  did  the  money  for  the 
2008  salary  increases  come  from,  and  do  you  think  this  money  was  best  spent  on 
executive  salary  increases? 

College  Affordability 

The  2008-09  budget  included  a  student  fee  increase  of  10  percent  for  undergraduates. 
This  fee  increase  was  tied  to  neither  an  inflationary  index  nor  a  specified  share  of  cost. 
Annual  undergraduate  fees  increased  from  $2,772  in  2007-08,  to  $3,048  for  2008-09. 


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CSU  uses  up  to  one-third  of  new  student  fee  revenues  each  year  for  financial  aid  to 
mitigate  the  impact  of  fee  increases.  The  2009-10  Budget  Act  was  enacted  in  February 
and  assumes  a  10  percent  fee  increase  for  CSU  students.  However,  the  board  will  have 
to  consider  and  vote  on  any  such  fee  increase. 

9.  The  board  has  the  authority  to  establish,  adjust,  and  abolish  student  fees.  How 
does  the  board  ensure  that  it  is  accountable  to  the  public  each  time  it  increases 
fees?  As  a  board  member,  what  are  the  key  factors  you  consider  when  deciding 
whether  to  approve  student  fee  increases? 

10.  California  lacks  a  consistent  fee  policy  for  postsecondary  education.  During  tight 
budget  years,  student  fees  often  increase  quite  steeply.  Do  you  believe  the  state 
should  develop  a  long-term  state  funding  and  student  fee  policy?  If  so,  what  role 
should  the  board  have  in  developing  such  a  policy?  To  what  extent  should  the 
Governor  and  Legislature  be  involved  in  CSU's  decisions  about  fees? 

1 1.  What  is  the  board  doing  to  evaluate  the  affordability  of  a  CSU  education,  beyond 
just  the  cost  of  student  fees?  Has  the  board  examined  the  increased  costs  of 
textbooks  and  whether  more  state  university  grant  aid  should  be  available  to  help 
students  cover  this  expense  and  other  costs  of  attending  college?  To  what  extent 
does  CSU  take  into  account  opportunities  for  federal  financial  aid,  such  as  Pell 
Grants  and  the  American  Opportunity  tax  credits? 

12.  Affordability  is  affected  by  how  much  it  costs  CSU  to  provide  educational  services. 
What  steps  has  and  should  CSU  take  to  hold  down  these  costs? 

Enrollment  Growth 

In  anticipation  of  the  state's  worsening  fiscal  crisis,  for  the  first  time  in  its  history  CSU 
has  declared  a  system-wide  impaction  that  will  result  in  fewer  students  admitted  for  fall 
2009.  It  is  estimated  that  CSU  is  currently  providing  access  to  10,000  students  for 
whom  it  receives  no  state  funding.  Declaring  system-wide  impaction  will  requires  CSU 
campuses  to  manage  student  enrollment  down  to  the  level  for  which  they  receive 
funding  by  applying  additional  admissions  criteria,  if  necessary.  Application  deadlines  at 
some  campuses  have  already  been  moved  up  to  November  30.  Applications  for  fall 
2009  are  up  by  almost  20  percent  from  this  time  last  year,  with  even  greater  demand  by 
community  college  transfer  students  (36  percent).  Community  college  transfer  students 
will  not  be  accepted  unless  they  have  completed  their  lower  division  course  work. 

13.  The  fall  2009  freshman  admissions  cycle  took  place  in  a  challenging  context,  which 
included  budgetary  constraints  and  unfunded  over-enrollments  on  most  campuses. 
Potentially,  CSU  may  curtail  enrollment  by  up  to  10,000  students  throughout  the 
system.  Are  the  trustees  informed  of  any  trends  that  can  be  detected  from  the 
preliminary  admissions  data  as  to  the  effect  the  system-wide  impaction  has  had  on 


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applicants  and  their  preferred  campus  of  choice,  in  addition  to  whether  certain 
parts  of  the  state  were  more  adversely  affected  than  others  as  a  result  of  the 
impaction? 

14.  For  the  last  several  years,  CSU  has  been  engaged  in  efforts  to  reach  out  to 
students  who  have  historically  not  been  part  of  higher  education  in  California.  What 
effect  do  you  believe  the  system-wide  impaction  will  have  on  these  students?  What 
steps  is  CSU  taking  to  inform  underserved  communities  and  the  high  schools 
serving  these  students  of  the  changes  in  application  deadlines,  along  with  the 
potential  for  differing  admissions  criteria  among  the  CSU  campuses? 

15.  The  2008-09  Budget  Act  did  not  set  enrollment  levels  for  CSU,  but  instead  allowed 
CSU  to  decide  how  to  accommodate  unallocated  reductions  in  state  funding.  This 
has  led  to  conflicting  perspectives  about  what  level  of  enrollment  was  funded  in 
2008-09.  The  Legislative  Analyst's  Office  recommends  that  the  Legislature  adopt 
specific  2009-10  enrollment  targets  for  CSU.  In  your  view,  should  the  Legislature 
take  steps  to  adopt  specific  enrollment  targets  for  CSU?  What  steps  should  CSU 
take  to  make  more  efficient  use  of  its  enrollment  funding? 

Academic  Preparation  and  Early  Assessment 

More  than  half  of  all  incoming  CSU  freshmen  require  English  or  math  remediation 
during  their  first  year  at  the  university.  These  freshmen  have  all  taken  the  required 
college  preparatory  curriculum  in  high  school,  only  to  find  out  after  admission  to  CSU 
that  they  need  further  preparation.  In  response  to  this  challenge,  CSU  has  developed  an 
early  assessment  program  to  provide  high  school  students  an  indication  of  whether  they 
possess  the  academic  skills  needed  to  succeed  at  CSU.  This  program  also  offers 
students  needing  stronger  academic  skills  the  opportunity  to  take  basic  skills  classes  in 
their  senior  year  of  high  school. 

In  general,  outreach  refers  to  those  activities  aimed  at  helping  middle  school,  high 
school,  and  community  college  students  from  disadvantaged  backgrounds  to  enroll  in 
college.  Past  outreach  evaluations  have  not  conclusively  demonstrated  whether 
participating  students  would  have  been  either  eligible  or  likely  to  attend  college  without 
these  services. 

16.  How  does  the  board  monitor  the  effectiveness  of  the  early  assessment  program 
and  whether  it  has  helped  increase  the  graduation  rates  of  CSU  students  needing 
remediation  in  basic  skills?  Are  you  satisfied  with  how  the  policy  is  being 
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17.  How  does  the  board  evaluate  which  types  of  outreach  programs  are  most  effective 
in  helping  disadvantaged  students  enroll  in  college?  Is  the  board  kept  informed  of 
students'  remediation  needs  once  enrolled  at  CSU  and  whether  they  are  being  met 
appropriately? 

18.  How  do  you  evaluate  the  quality  of  coordination  between  CSU  outreach  programs 
and  K-12  schools  to  determine  if  it  provides  the  best  mix  of  outreach  interventions? 
Is  this  an  appropriate  area  for  the  board  to  weigh  in? 

19.  High  school  students  who  want  to  pursue  a  college  prep  curriculum  in  California 
must  devote  nearly  their  entire  schedule  to  completing  A-G  course  work,  leaving 
little  room  for  career  tech  or  other  electives.  How  does  the  board  monitor  and 
address  this  issue?  Do  you  believe  the  current  requirements  are  the  best  ones,  or 
have  you  considered  easing  them  even  slightly,  as  some  have  suggested,  by 
requiring  A-F  subject  requirements  necessary  for  admission? 

20.  Secondary  school  programs  such  as  Career  Partnership  Academies  and  small 
career-themed  high  schools  have  shown  success  in  engaging  at-risk  students  with 
"contextualized"  or  applied  learning  strategies  that  draw  a  clear  line  from  what  they 
are  gaining  in  high  school  to  what  they  will  need  to  succeed  in  the  adult  world  of 
work.  What  role,  if  any,  should  CSU  play  in  preparing  or  providing  professional 
development  to  aspiring  and  current  secondary  school  teachers  so  that  they  are 
equipped  to  develop  and  lead  such  programs? 

Title  IX 

In  2008  Fresno  State  dropped  its  appeals  of  jury  verdicts  in  favor  of  former  coaches 
Stacy  Johnson-Klein  and  Lindy  Vivas  and  agreed  to  $9  million  and  $5.2  million 
settlements,  respectively,  for  Title  IX  violations.  Settlements  were  also  reached  with 
administrative  assistant  Iris  Levasque  for  $125,000,  and  preemptively  with  softball 
coach  Margie  Wright  for  $605,000,  according  to  news  reports.  More  recently  in 
February  2009,  a  former  Olympic  shot-putter  became  the  latest  female  coach  to  sue 
Fresno  State,  alleging  gender  discrimination  and  Title  IX  retaliation. 

21.  Title  IX  violations  at  Fresno  State  have  resulted  in  very  costly  settlements.  How  is 
the  board  monitoring  this  situation  to  assure  compliance  with  the  law?  Are  you 
satisfied  that  the  problems  at  Fresno  State  are  being  addressed?  How  does  the 
board  monitor  Title  IX  activities  at  the  other  campuses? 

CSU  Response  to  Workforce  Needs 

A  recent  report  by  the  Public  Policy  Institute  of  California  finds  that  California  could  run 
short  of  college  graduates  needed  to  keep  its  economy  going  by  2025.  While  the 
number  of  college-educated  workers  increased  from  28  percent  in  1 990  to  34  percent  in 


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2006,  the  pace  is  likely  to  slow  because  of  California's  fast-changing  demographics.  In 
the  coming  decades,  slower  growth  in  the  supply  of  college-educated  workers  will  be  a 
limiting  factor  that  changes  the  path  of  the  state's  economic  growth. 

In  recent  years,  significant  attention  has  been  focused  on  CSU's  ability  to  train  and 
educate  enough  teachers  and  nurses  to  supply  state  workforce  needs.  CSU  also 
educates  students  planning  to  enter  other  high-demand  fields,  such  as  information 
technology,  social  work,  and  other  allied  health  care  fields. 

22.  What  is  the  board  doing  to  analyze  the  state's  long-term  workforce  needs  and 
determine  the  system's  capacity  to  respond  to  educating  students  to  enter 
high-growth  fields? 

23.  What  is  the  appropriate  role  for  the  board  in  terms  of  helping  campuses  strengthen 
their  capacity  to  respond  more  quickly  to  the  demand  for  programs  that  train 
students  to  enter  high-growth  fields?  Conversely,  should  the  board  respond  to 
declines  in  enrollment  in  programs  that  are  no  longer  in  demand  because  of 
changing  workforce  needs? 

24.  What  can  the  CSU  board  do  to  ensure  that  its  teacher  preparation  programs  are 
preparing  teachers  to  be  capable  of  meeting  the  challenges  of  high-need  schools, 
core  subject  matter  areas,  geographic  regions,  and  special-needs  programs? 

California  is  a  national  and  international  leader  on  environmental,  natural  resource, 
pollution  prevention,  and  energy  issues.  The  green  technology  sector  of  the  state's 
economy  is  rapidly  growing.  As  the  green  economy  grows,  it  will  be  accompanied  by  an 
increased  demand  for  a  highly  skilled  and  well-trained  "green  collar"  workforce. 

25.  How  does  CSU  propose  to  align  the  opportunities  of  California's  green  economy 
with  educational  and  career  development  programs  at  its  campuses?  Is  this  an 
issue  area  on  which  your  board  provides  guidance?  If  so,  how? 

Please  send  your  written  answers  to  these  questions  to  Nettie  Sabelhaus,  Senate  Rules 
Committee  Appointments  Director,  Room  420,  State  Capitol,  Sacramento,  CA  95814. 

Thank  you  for  your  help. 

Sincerely, 


DARRELL  STEINBERG 
DS:LG 


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Responses 


Senate  Rsiies  Committee 

MAY  2  6  2009 


Honorable  Darrell  Steinberg 

Chairman 

Senate  Rules  Committee 

California  Legislature 

State  Capitol,  Room  420 

Sacramento,  California  95814 

Dear  Senator  Steinberg: 


In  conjunction  with  the  hearing  on  my  reappointment  as  a  member  of  the  California  State 
University  (CSU)  Board  of  Trustees  I  am  writing  in  response  to  the  questions  you  have 
posed  regarding  various  aspects  of  the  Boards'  responsibilities  and  the  system  operation. 

Statement  of  Goals 

1.  Accomplishments. . ..  I  believe  the  CSU  is  an  effectively  run  system  and  the  Board 
functions  well  in  establishing  policy  for  the  University  and  in  hiring  and 
evaluating  system  executives  and  campus  Presidents.  In  my  role  as  Chairman  of 
the  Board  Finance  Committee  I  believe  we  have  directed  and  approved  a  number 
of  innovations  in  system  wide  financial  processes  that  have  led  to  significant 
savings  and  a  very  strong  credit  rating. 

2.  Within  the  financial  constraints  in  which  the  system  must  function  we  are 
succeeding  in  graduating  about  90,000  students  annually  with  Bachelors  and 
Maters  degrees.  Most  of  the  graduates  go  immediately  into  the  California 
workforce.  However,  as  a  recent  PPIC  study  has  outlined,  by  2025  we  will  be  at 
least  1  million  degrees  short  of  meeting  workforce  needs  at  that  time.  Clearly  we 
must  find  ways  to  increase  the  number  of  graduates.  Toward  this  objective  the 
Board  led  and  adopted  a  new  strategic  plan  entitled  "Access  with  Success/'  We 
are  in  the  process  of  implementing  the  plan.  The  question  is  whether  we  will  have 
adequate  resources  to  achieve  its  objectives. 

3.  High  School  and  Middle  School  Dropouts.  This  is  a  critical  problem  for 
California.  We  know  that  effective  teachers  can  motivate  and  retain  students  in 
the  K-12  public  schools.  Since  the  CSU  trains  in  excess  of  60  percent  of 
California's  teachers  it  seems  clear  that  we  are  not  doing  as  well  as  we  must  in 
training  the  teachers.  To  address  this  issue  we  have  created  the  CSU  Center  to 
Close  the  Achievement  Gap  with  the  objective  of  improving  CSU  teacher  training 
on  every  campus.  The  CSU  must  be  in  partnership  with  the  public  schools  to 
reduce  dropout  rates  throughout  the  state.  The  Board  is  responsible  for  assuring 
that  progress  is  being  made  toward  this  objective. 


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Governing  Board  Oversight 

4.  The  Board  is  responsible  for  reviewing  and  approving  compensation  levels  for 
campus  Presidents  and  system  executives  including  the  Chancellor  and  all  Vice- 
Chancellors.  For  other  management  level  employees  (also  known  as  MPP 
employees)  the  Chancellor  has  authority  to  establish  pay  policies  and  programs  to 
be  administered  by  campus  Presidents. 

This  is  an  area  to  which  the  Board  pays  close  attention  because  of  the  public 
nature  of  the  decisions  as  well  as  the  constant  need  to  try  to  remain  competitive 
with  the  existing  market  for  these  positions.  Most  recently,  the  Board  reviewed  its 
executive  compensation  policy  in  2007. 

At  the  November  2008  Board  meeting  the  Chancellor  reported  on  salary  increases 
for  the  period  January  22,  2008  through  October  31,  2008.  The  Chancellor 
approved  salary  adjustments  for  23  Vice  Presidents.  Of  the  23  nine  were  new 
hires  and  two  were  intermittent/  temporary  appointments.  The  Board  is  not 
required  to  approve  these  decisions  but  it  has  required  the  Chancellor  to  publicly 
report  on  these  actions  annually  in  September.  Of  47,000  CSU  employees  102  are 
Vice  Presidents. 

5.  Subsequent  to  the  Bureau  of  State  Audits  (BSA)  report  regarding  executive 
compensation  in  the  CSU  the  Board  created  an  ad  hoc  committee  to  review  the 
recommendations  of  the  state  auditor.  After  a  careful  review  of  the  proposals  the 
Committee  made  specific  suggestions  to  address  the  issues  raised  by  the  auditor. 
Those  suggestions  were  adopted  by  the  Board  in  2008.  On  November  4,  2008  the 
Chancellor  reported  to  the  BSA  on  the  implementation  of  changes  in  procedure  to 
comply  with  the  BSA  recommendations. 

6.  This  is  one  of  the  most  difficult  problems  the  Board  is  required  to  confront. 
Numerous  professional  compensation  studies  have  revealed  that  in  many  job 
categories  the  CSU  is  not  at  market.  This  is  especially  true  when  it  comes  to 
senior  staff.  In  addition,  many  senior  staffers  are  eligible  for  retirement  and  with 
little  prospect  currently  for  a  salary  increase  may  be  incented  to  do  so.  The 
present  prospect  for  major  state  support  reductions  will  put  increasing  pressure  on 
all  CSU  staff  to  maintain  a  high  quality  of  service  provision. 

7.  The  CSU  has  definitely  adhered  to  the  auditor's  recommendations.  The 
Chancellor  now  approves  all  Vice  Presidential  salaries  and  all  executive 
compensation  elements  are  publicly  reported  to  the  board.  In  the  future  the  CSU 
will  conduct  a  total  compensation  study  which  also  will  include  benefits.  Also, 
payroll  and  salary  transaction  training  has  taken  place  at  all  campuses. 

8.  There  was  only  one  executive  pay  increase  granted  in  2008.  It  was  to  an  interim 
Vice  Chancellor  who  was  promoted  to  Vice  Chancellor.  Also  during  2008  two 
newly  appointed  Vice  Chancellors  were  appointed  along  with  one  campus 


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President.  Most  significantly,  the  Board  recruited  and  approved  hiring  for  Dr.  Jeri 
Echeverria  as  the  new  Executive  Vice  Chancellor  and  Chief  Academic  Officer 
with  a  set  salary  that  was  $18,000  below  that  of  her  predecessor.  Executive 
salaries  in  the  CSU  still  lag  the  market  by  39.6  %. 

College  Affordability 

9.  Student  Fees.  Affordability  of  a  CSU  education  is  a  major  concern  of  the  Board. 
Fee  increases  always  are  considered  very  carefully.  Even  though  fees  have  risen 
in  the  last  few  years  they  are  still  below  the  CPEC  comparable  institutions. 
Nevertheless,  we  know  that  the  cost  of  living  in  many  areas  of  California  is  a 
factor  potential  students  must  consider  when  choosing  a  college.  The  Board 
resorts  to  fee  increases  only  when  absolutely  necessary  and  always  sets  aside  one 
-third  of  the  increase  for  State  University  Grants.  The  system  also  was  very  active 
recently  in  Washington  advocating  for  increasing  the  maximum  Pell  Grant  award 
and  the  total  Pell  Grant  dollars  allocated  to  the  CSU.  Whenever  fees  are  increased 
as  much  public  notice  as  possible  is  provided  and  all  decisions  are  made  in  open 
public  meetings. 

10.  Fee  Policy.  The  most  important  elements  of  a  fee  policy  are  that  they  be 
affordable,  predictable  and  reliable.  Parents  and  students  need  the  ability  to  plan 
for  fees  and  the  assurance  that  they  can  rely  on  a  steady  policy  that  doesn't 
change  abruptly.  In  1993  the  CSU  did  establish  a  fee  policy  that  met  the  above 
criteria  and  promised  that  fees  would  not  exceed  one-third  of  the  cost  of 
instruction.  Our  ability  to  implement  the  policy  has  often  been  upset  when  in  good 
economic  times  the  Legislature  decided  to  "buy  out"  a  proposed  (modest)  fee 
increase.  Over  the  last  18  years  on  average  fees  have  increased  by  8  per  cent  per 
year.  I  do  not  believe  the  Governor  and  the  Legislature  should  decide  on  fees  but 
the  state  budget  process  and  the  availability  of  General  Fund  resources  in  support 
of  the  CSU  inevitably  "involve"  the  two  branches  in  the  fee  issue. 

11.  The  Board  is  constantly  evaluating  the  affordability  of  a  CSU  education 
especially  in  relation  to  the  objective  of  graduating  more  students.  Every  potential 
financial  aid  avenue  is  pursued.  Additionally,  the  board  has  made  it  explicit  that 
student  loans  be  the  last  financial  aid  option  preceeded  by  all  possible  grant 
opportunities. 

12.  Every  effort  possible  is  made  to  hold  down  costs.  However,  it  must  be  recognized 
that  the  system's  major  operating  cost  is  salaries  and  benefits  for  all  employees 
and  each  year  there  is  understandable  pressure  to  increase  compensation  for 
everyone.  Not  to  do  so  whenever  possible  would  not  be  equitable  for  employees 
and  presents  a  real  recruitment  barrier  for  the  University. 

Enrollment  Growth 

13.  A  review  of  the  data  shows  that  overall  FTE  applications  are  up  2  percent  over 
fall  2008.  Regional  differences  range  between  the  LA  Basin  (down  1  per  cent)  to 
the  Central  Coast  (up  5  percent).  As  to  ethnicity  Caucasian  and  Latino 


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applications  increased  while  African-American  and  Asian/Pacific  Islander 
applicants  declined  slightly.  It  appears  that  the  early  application  closings  had  little 
or  no  negative  impacts. 

14.  This  is  a  major  priority  for  the  CSU.  Since  our  public  schools  now  have  a 
majority  minority  enrollment  it  is  especially  important  to  inform  students  and 
parents  of  the  opportunities  available  to  them  in  the  CSU.  "How  to  go  to  College" 
posters  have  been  distributed  in  several  languages  throughout  the  state  (paid  for 
by  a  private  donation)  and  extensive  use  is  made  of  the  internet  as  well  as  school 
and  community  college  counselors.  For  several  years  now  the  Chancellor  has 
conducted  "Super  Sundays"  in  African-American  churches  throughout  the  state. 
Similar  days  have  been  conducted  in  Latino  churches.  Overall,  applications  from 
both  ethnic  groups  have  increased  as  a  result  of  these  efforts. 

15.  The  level  of  funding  provided  to  the  CSU  by  the  legislature  and  Governor  as  well 
as  net  fee  revenue  drives  the  determination  of  what  level  of  enrollment  can  be 
supported.  The  CSU  would  like  to  accommodate  every  eligible  student  but  can  do 
so  only  when  sufficient  resources  are  available.  Especially  in  times  of  scarce 
resources  the  University  should  be  permitted  to  manage  its  enrollment  in  a 
manner  that  provides  equitable  treatment  of  all  potential  students.  In  addition,  the 
system  is  working  very  hard  to  move  students  to  graduation  as  quickly  as  possible 
with  no  more  than  the  number  of  academic  units  required  for  their  major.  Doing 
so  frees-up  space  for  entering  students.  Today  in  the  CSU  the  number  of  units 
required  for  graduation  is  120  in  nearly  80  percent  of  the  majors.  Students  are 
discouraged  from  taking  more  than  the  required  number  and  from  repeating 
classes  to  achieve  a  higher  grade. 

Academic  Preparation  and  Early  Assessment 

16.  The  Early  Assessment  Program  (EAP)  was  developed  in  collaboration  with  the 
State  Department  of  Education.  It  assesses  11th  grade  student  readiness  for  college 
in  English  and  Math.  Questions  in  each  area  are  added  to  the  California 
Standards  Test  (CST)  and  participation  is  voluntary. 

Since  its  inception  six  years  ago  the  response  to  the  EAP  has  been  overwhelming. 
In  2008  approximately  352,943  high  school  juniors  opted  to  take  the  test.  For 
English  this  was  a  79  percent  participation  rate  and  for  math  70  percent 
participated.  The  Board  has  paid  close  attention  to  this  program  for  a  number  of 
reasons.  First,  if  students  have  basic  proficiency  in  these  areas  they  are  likely  to 
graduate.  Second,  the  cost  to  remediate  students  who  are  admitted  has  become  a 
major  burden  for  the  University.  Third,  this  is  an  area  where  the  CSU  and  the 
state's  high  schools  need  to  work  in  close  cooperation.  The  CSU  also  has  offered 
on-line  and  summer  courses  in  these  areas  for  students  who  are  not  sufficiently 
proficient  to  meet  our  standards. 

We  are  satisfied  with  the  program  and  its  implementation  but  not  with  the  student 
results.  It  is  clear  that  much  more  work  needs  to  be  done  with  K-12  schools  to  be 


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sure  that  when  graduating  from  high  school  students  are  ready  for  work  or 
college. 

17.  The  Board  and  Legislature  annually  receive  a  report  on  Student  Academic 
Outreach  Program  Activity.  The  areas  of  outreach  include:  K-14  Students,  K-14 
Institutions,  Parents,  Families,  Community  Members,  and  the  EAP.  Most  of  these 
efforts  are  aimed  at  reaching  ''disadvantaged"  students  as  well  as  those  that  are 
not.  The  Board  pays  close  attention  to  enrollment  levels  of  these  students  and  as 
noted  above  is  very  aware  of  remediation  issues.  Every  effort  possible  is  made  to 
quickly  remediate  all  relevant  students.  As  you  can  imagine  this  is  a  challenging 
task 

18.  All  23  CSU  campuses  have  developed,  implemented  and  administered  nearly  500 
outreach  programs  at  more  than  3000  K-12  schools.  The  programs  include 
tutoring,  mentoring,  field  trips,  information  and  motivation  activities.  For 
example,  recently  CSU  Monterey  Bay  conducted  an  on-campus  program  for 
nearly  500  middle  school  students  from  the  Salinas  Valley.  Over  time,  these 
programs  are  effective  if  they  are  consistently  sustained.  In  addition  to  the  reports 
received  by  the  Board  this  is  a  subject  of  discussion  during  all  Presidential 
evaluations. 

19.  While  I  am  certainly  not  an  expert  in  this  area  I  am  informed  that  it  is  possible 
today  in  California's  high  schools  for  a  student  to  meet  the  requirements  for  high 
school  graduation  as  well  as  for  Career  Technical  Education  (CDE)  and  CSU/UC 
eligibility. 

20.  As  the  primary  provider  of  public  school  teachers  in  California  the  CSU  must 
play  a  major  role  in  responding  to  all  educational  innovations  in  the  K-12  system. 
Currently  at  several  campuses  with  the  support  of  an  external  funder  these  schools 
are  piloting  a  program  to  train  aspiring  teachers  in  the  context  of  career-themed 
learning.  Four  CSU  campuses  have  augmented  their  approved  secondary 
credential  programs  to  support  candidates'  field  placement  in  career-themed 
settings. 

Title  IX 

21.  The  Board  now  receives  an  annual  report  on  Title  IX  compliance.  The  subject 
also  is  discussed  at  other  Board  meetings  because  of  its  importance.  There  is  no 
doubt  that  the  problems  at  Fresno  State  substantially  raised  the  level  of  visibility 
and  concern  on  the  Board  related  to  women's  Athletics.  I  am  satisfied  that  the 
Fresno  State  situation  has  been  addressed  and  largely  remedied.  It  also  should  be 
noted  that  this  is  a  subject  regularly  addressed  during  Presidential  evaluations. 
There  can  be  no  excuse  for  lack  of  compliance  in  this  area. 

CSU  Response  to  Workforce  Needs 

22.  Since  the  CSU  is  critical  to  meeting  workforce  needs  in  the  state  extensive 
research  and  work  is  done  prior  to  the  approval  of  any  new  degree.  Individual 


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campuses  also  continually  evaluate  existing  degree  programs  to  be  sure  that  they 
remain  relevant  to  current  and  future  workforce  needs.  In  addition  CSU  campuses 
have  professional  advisory  boards  and  the  Chancellor's  office  is  very  active  in 
evaluating  new  program  requests. 

One  specific  example  illustrating  our  commitment  to  analyzing  the  state's  long- 
term  workforce  needs  and  acting  on  recommendations  from  industry  was  the 
establishment  of  15  Professional  Science  Masters  Programs  in  fields  such  as 
biotechnology,  biostatistics,  medical  product  development  and  environmental 
sciences. 

The  same  thing  can  be  said  of  the  CSU's  role  in  preparing  students  for  high 
growth  and  demanding  professions  in  the  health  field.  The  CSU  also  is  partnering 
with  the  state's  Community  Colleges  (CCC)  to  form  regional  education  coalitions 
to  expedite  training  in  health  professions. 

Finally,  the  CSU  is  working  with  a  variety  of  high  demand  industries  including 
agriculture,  engineering,  entertainment  and  tourism. 

23.  I  believe  the  CSU  is  responding  quickly  to  high  growth  workforce  needs  (as 
outlined  above)  and  regularly  evaluating  existing  programs  for  their  current 
relevance.  The  Board  needs  to  pay  close  attention  to  each  of  these  areas  to  assure 
citizens  and  the  legislature  that  scarce  public  funds  are  being  expended  wisely  in 
furtherance  of  the  CSU's  primary  mission  of  workforce  preparation. 

24.  As  discussed  in  answer  to  previous  questions  (see  especially  #  3)  this  is  a  major 
and  important  responsibility  for  the  Board.  It  could  not  be  otherwise  since  the 
CSU  trains  more  than  60  percent  of  the  state's  public  school  teachers.  The 
Chancellor  and  the  Board  are  constantly  monitoring  and  tracking  teacher  training 
programs  to  be  sure  that  they  are  relevant  to  today's  needs.  The  overall  results  in 
our  public  schools  indicate  that  we  have  much  work  to  do  in  this  area  in 
partnership  with  the  leaders  of  K-14  education  in  the  state.  Available  data 
indicates  that  we  are  doing  better  but  not  yet  well  enough. 

Green  Economy 

25.  This  subject  is  addressed  directly  by  the  Board  in  their  recently  approved  strategic 
plan  entitled  'Access  to  Excellence."  In  that  plan  there  is  a  commitment  to 
sustainability  including  the  design  and  implementation  of  new  degree  programs 
relevant  to  the  development  of  new  "green  economies." 

There  are  diverse  efforts  underway  in  aligning  the  CSU's  educational  programs 
with  the  needs  of  the  evolving  '"green  economy." 

For  example,  the  CSU  is  supporting  UC's  proposal  alongside  CCC  and  private 
higher  education  to  create  a  California  Climate  Change  Institute.  Chico  State  and 
Butte  College  are  partnering  to  offer  and  environmental  Sciences  B.S.  degree. 


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The  above  represents  an  excellent  example  of  the  CSU  responding  to  a 
demanding  and  high  growth  workforce  need  in  our  economy. 

I  appreciate  the  opportunity  to  respond  to  these  questions  and  look  forward  to 
discussing  them  with  the  Rules  Committee  on  June  10,  2009. 

CorflTall!  ' 


I 

William  Hauck 
President 


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Herbert  L.  Carter 
Vice  Chair 

Roberta  Achtenberg 

Carol  R.  Chandler 

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George  G.  Gowgani 

Melinda  Guzman 

Curtis  Grima 

William  Hauck 

aymond  W.  Holdsworth 

Linda  A.  Lang 

A.  Robert  Linscheid 

Peter  Mehas 

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May  27,  2009 


The  Honorable  Darrell  Steinberg,  Chair 
Senate  Rules  Committee 
State  Capitol,  Room  400 
Sacramento,  California  95814 

RE:     CALIFORNIA  STATE  UNIVERSITY,  BOARD  OF  TRUSTEES 
HEARING,  June  10,  2009 


CONFIRMATION 


Dear  Senator  Steinberg: 

Thank  you  for  the  opportunity  to  respond  to  your  inquiries  as  we  move  towards  the  June  10th 
hearing  on  my  confirmation  as  a  member  of  the  California  State  University  (CSU)  Board  of 
Trustees.  Below  please  find  my  responses  for  your  review.  I  look  forward  to  meeting  with 
each  of  you,  fellow  committee  members  and  your  staff  in  the  coming  days  to  discuss  my 
interest  in  this  important  public  service  role. 

Statement  of  Goals 

Question  1:  Please  provide  a  brief  statement  outlining  the  goals  you  hope  to  accomplish 
while  serving  as  a  member  of  the  CSU  Board  of  Trustees.  How  will  you  measure  your 
success? 

I  am  the  son  of  an  immigrant  mother  and  a  father  who  was  a  United  States  (U.S.)  citizen  that 
was  "repatriated"  during  the  depression  at  a  young  age  along  with  his  family.  My  father 
returned  to  the  U.S.  without  much  of  an  education  and  not  knowing  any  English  and  worked 
in  the  fields  of  California  following  the  crops.  Knowing  this  was  the  land  of  opportunity  he 
enrolled  in  night  school  and  learned  English  so  he  could  get  a  job  in  a  factory  and  raise  a 
family.  He  knew  he  wanted  better  for  his  children  so  he  pushed  us  to  go  to  school  and  get  an 
education. 

As  the  son  of  a  first  generation  American  my  exposure  to  higher  education  and  careers 
outside  of  the  factory  and  labor  fields  was  limited.  In  high  school  I  was  encouraged  to  apply 
to  all  universities  but  the  proximity  of  Cal  State  Fullerton  suited  me  as  well  as  my  Hispanic 
culture  of  staying  close  to  your  family.  If  it  was  not  for  the  outreach,  accessibility, 
affordability  and  financial  aid  I  would  not  have  been  able  to  attend  college.  I  owe  all  of  my 
success  to  my  education  through  the  California  State  University  (CSU)  system. 

The  goals  that  I  hope  to  accomplish  while  serving  as  a  member  of  the  CSU  Board  of 
Trustees  are  as  follows: 

•  Strive  to  keep  the  cost  of  education  affordable  and  accessible  to  all  who  want  it  in  the 
State  of  California.  This  is  very  challenging  in  the  current  economic  environment. 


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•  Help  reduce  the  dropout  rate  among  high  school  and  middle  school  children  through  outreach  and 
education.  This  is  a  huge  problem  for  the  Hispanic  population  in  particular.  With  the  demographics 
changing  and  expected  continued  growth  in  the  Hispanic  population  this  is  an  issue  that  must  be  the 
focus  of  our  efforts.  I  believe  that  the  state  of  California  and  the  CSU  system  together  must  address 
this  issue.  This  is  a  social,  economic  and  a  workforce  issue. 

•  Keep  the  CSU  system  economically  healthy.  This  is  a  delicate  issue  since  we  depend  on  State 
funding.  As  stewards  of  the  system,  we  must  get  creative  with  funding  and  containing  costs  without 
affecting  the  great  quality  of  our  education. 

•  Keep  the  CSU  as  the  premier  educational  system  in  the  state  of  California  by  providing  for  an 
educated  workforce  for  our  new  "green"  economy.  We  need  to  make  sure  that  everyone  in  our 
society  has  the  opportunity  to  participate  in  the  economic  rewards  this  state  and  country  have  to 
offer. 

I  will  measure  my  success  by  seeing  the  CSU  system  flourish  by  providing  an  affordable  and  quality 
education,  seeing  our  workforce  ready  for  the  future  and  stemming  the  tide  of  the  dropout  trends  in  our 
communities. 


Question  2:  How  will  you  evaluate  the  extent  to  which  the  CSU  system  is  succeeding  in  its  mission? 
What  yardsticks  are  most  important  to  you  as  you  make  this  determination? 

I  believe  that  we  will  see  that  the  CSU  has  succeeded  in  its  mission  when  there  is  still  a  great  demand  for 
its  education,  its  stays  accessible  and  affordable  to  all.  We  will  also  consider  ourselves  successful  if 
California  stays  in  the  forefront  of  all  technologies  and  trends  and  is  continuing  its  work  to  meet  the  needs 
of  our  workforce  today  and  in  the  future. 

As  I  mentioned  earlier,  with  the  changing  of  the  demographics  in  the  State,  we  must  stem  the  dropout  rate 
in  Hispanics  and  increase  their  involvement  in  higher  education.  If  not  a  very  large  portion  of  our 
population  will  not  be  able  to  participate  in  the  economic  rewards  the  State  has  to  offer.  And  therefore  I 
believe  our  system  will  then  fail. 

Question  3:  Some  120,000  young  people  drop  out  of  high  school  and  middle  school  annually  in 
California.  What  role,  if  any,  should  CSU  play  in  turning  the  dropout  crisis  around?  How  does  the 
board  weigh  in  on  what  should  be  done? 

The  California  State  University  should  and  does  work  collaboratively  with  K- 1 2  in  reducing  the  dropout 
rate  through  various  academic  preparation  and  outreach  programs.  One  effort  I  am  particularly  interested 
in  is  the  partnerships  CSU  and  its  campuses  have  with  community-based  organizations  such  as  the  Parent 
Institute  for  Quality  Education  (PIQE)  and  black  churches  throughout  the  year  to  help  parents  and  families 
ensure  that  their  children  are  ready  and  prepared  to  not  only  graduate  from  high  school  but  succeed  in 
college  or  the  workforce.  As  one  of  the  first  in  my  family  to  get  a  college  degree,  I  know  what  value  these 
efforts  have  within  the  family  not  just  with  the  students  and  believe  that  will  continue  to  show  great 
success.  We  recently  had  a  report  from  our  staff  about  these  programs  and  I  was  thrilled  to  hear  that  we 
were  seeing  double  digit  increases  in  applications  from  these  very  populations. 

As  a  Board  member  I  work  with  my  colleagues  to  set  the  tone  from  the  top.  We  lead  not  only  by  our 
oversight  and  policy  direction  but  also  working  closely  with  the  Chancellor  and  campus  presidents; 
participating  in  community  activities;  reaching  out  to  business,  employers  and  others  to  leam  about  what 


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they  need  from  the  CSU;  and  of  course  meeting  as  often  as  possible  with  students,  faculty,  staff  and  others 
working  hard  every  day  to  succeed  and  make  CSU  the  best  it  can  be. 


Question  4:   What  role  does  the  board  play  in  reviewing  and  approving  executive  compensation 
policies?  Does  the  board  periodically  review  and  reassess  these  policies? 

The  Board  established  a  compensation  philosophy  relating  to  executive  compensation  (September  1 7, 
2007)  and  has  revised  policies  regarding  executive  transition  and  trustee  professorship  programs.  The 
Board's  committee  for  university  and  faculty  personnel  reviews  and  approves  recommendations  on 
appropriate  compensation  levels  for  executives  that  are  then  ratified  by  the  full  board. 

As  a  newer  member  of  the  Board  I  was  not  specifically  involved  in  the  development  of  all  of  these  policies 
in  2006  and  2007  but  have  been  briefed  on  them  and  believe  that  they  are  appropriate  and  responsive.  I 
believe  these  policies  ensure  that  we  operate  in  a  manner  that  is  expected  of  a  public  entity  such  the  CSU 
without  negatively  impacting  our  ability  to  attract  and  retain  the  best  to  our  system. 

Question  5:  What  is  the  CSU  board  doing  to  reevaluate  its  overall  capacity  to  oversee  and  hold  the 
system  accountable  on  matters  of  compensation  and  other  key  issues? 

The  Board  created  an  ad  hoc  committee  in  2007  to  evaluate  the  recommendations  of  the  state  auditor.  The 
committee  made  specific  suggestions  to  address  the  issues  that  were  raised,  and  were  adopted  by  the  Board 
in  2008.  The  Chancellor  is  monitoring  implementation  and  issued  a  report  on  progress  to  the  Bureau  of 
State  Audits  (BSA)  on  November  4,  2008. 

Question  6:  How  does  the  board  balance  the  need  to  attract  and  retain  qualified  senior  staff,  while  at 
the  same  time  providing  management  effectiveness  and  accountability  against  a  backdrop  of  reduced 
state  support  and  likely  increase  of  student  fees? 

The  Chancellor  and  the  Board  struggle  with  this  issue  constantly.  We  compete  with  both  the  private  sector 
and  public  universities  in  our  search  for  executives,  staff  and  faculty.  We  work  with  the  Chancellor  to 
ensure  that  our  executive  salaries  are  competitive  and  within  our  adopted  policies.  We  also  monitor  this 
issue  constantly  not  only  during  public  meetings  but  as  we  participate  in  campus  presidential  searches  and 
evaluations. 


Question  7:  Do  you  think  the  CSU  has  adhered  to  the  auditor's  recommendations  that  CSU  committed 
to  adopt?  If  not,  why  not?  What  issues  are  still  outstanding  and  need  to  be  addressed 

I  believe  that  the  CSU  has  adhered  to  the  auditor's  recommendations  that  we  committed  to  as  outlined  in 
the  November  4,  2008  letter  from  Chancellor  Reed  to  the  Bureau  of  State  Audits  (BSA).  We  have 
conducted  payroll  and  transaction  training  for  campus  personnel,  developed  a  new  policy  with  regard  to 
vice  presidents'  salaries  and  receive  reports  from  the  Chancellor  on  vice  president  salaries,  vice  president 
compensation,  executives  who  participate  in  the  trustee  professor  and  executive  transition  programs  and 
relocation  expense  for  executives.  We  also  plan  to  conduct  a  total  compensation  report  to  include  benefits. 

Question  8:  When  the  university  receives  no  funding  for  COLAs  (as  is  the  case  in  2008-09),  the 
university  must  shift  funds  from  other  sources  in  order  to  cover  any  COLA  that  it  chooses  to  grant 


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Where  did  they  money  for  the  2008  salary  increases  come  from,  and  do  you  think  this  money  was  best 
spent  on  executive  salary  increases? 

There  were  no  pay  increases  in  2008  except  one  pay  increase  granted  to  a  CSU  executive  when  an  interim 
vice  chancellor  was  promoted  to  the  permanent  position.  Other  executive  salary  actions  by  the  Board  were 
to  approve  the  initial  salaries  for  two  newly  appointed  vice  chancellors  and  a  campus  president.  Just 
recently  we  approved  the  appointment  of  Dr.  Jeri  Echeverria  as  the  incoming  Executive  Vice  Chancellor 
and  Chief  Academic  Officer  of  the  system  at  a  rate  $1 8,000  BELOW  her  predecessor,  Dr.  Gary  Reichard. 

The  only  other  increases  that  may  occur  are  those  for  represented  employees  which  are  based  on  contracts 
ratified  by  the  Board. 

Question  9:   The  board  has  the  authority  to  establish,  adjust,  and  abolish  student  fees.  How  does  the 
board  ensure  that  it  is  accountable  to  the  public  each  time  it  increases  fees?  As  a  board  member,  what 
are  the  key  factors  you  will  consider  when  deciding  whether  to  approve  student  fee  increases? 

The  Board  takes  the  issue  of  fee  increases  very  seriously.  I  am  a  product  of  the  CSU  system  and  I  know 
how  sensitive  many  families  and  students  are  to  fee  increases.  As  a  Board  member,  the  key  factors  I  will 
consider  when  deciding  whether  to  approve  student  fee  increases  will  include  but  are  not  limited  to:  level 
of  state  support  for  the  CSU;  impact  on  students,  especially  for  low  income  students;  level  of  funding  set 
aside  for  our  State  University  Grant  (SUG)  program;  availability  of  federal  Pell  grant  awards  and  other 
financial  assistance;  and  finally  whether  the  fees  are  as  moderate,  predictable  and  affordable  in  the  context 
of  the  state  funding  available  to  the  system  to  protect  the  quality  of  our  programs  and  services. 


Question  10:  California  lacks  a  consistent  fee  policy  for  postsecondary  education.  During  tight  budget 
years,  student  fees  often  increase  quite  steeply.  Do  you  believe  the  state  should  develop  a  long-term  state 
funding  and  student  fee  policy?  If  so,  what  role  should  the  board  have  in  developing  such  a  policy?  To 
what  extent  should  the  Governor  and  Legislature  be  involved  in  CSU's  decisions  about  fees? 

The  CSU  Board  of  Trustees  has  a  fee  policy  adopted  in  1993  which  is  consistent  with  my  views  outlined  in 
Question  9.  I  believe  that  this  is  an  appropriate  approach  especially  in  the  context  of  severe  budget 
reductions  to  the  system  and  the  role  the  legislature  and  governor  play  in  these  decisions  through  the 
annual  budget  deliberations. 


Question  11:  What  is  the  board  doing  to  evaluate  the  affordability  of  a  CSU  education,  beyond  just  the 
cost  of  student  fees?  Has  the  board  examined  the  increased  costs  of  textbooks  and  whether  more  state 
university  grant  aid  should  be  available  to  help  students  cover  this  expense  and  other  costs  of  attending 
college?  To  what  extent  does  CSU  take  into  account  opportunities  for  federal  financial  aid,  such  as  Pell 
Grants  and  the  American  Opportunity  tax  credits? 

The  CSU  regularly  evaluates  the  key  components  driving  the  cost  of  education  as  much  as  we  can  within 
the  restraints  of  statutory  restrictions  as  well  as  contracts  with  our  13  unions.  These  costs  include  health 
care,  risk  management,  construction,  workers  compensation,  salary  and  wages  including  hiring  freezes  and 
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We  are  serving  more  students,  with  less  state  support  and  have  been  doing  so  even  before  these  latest 
proposed  cuts  for  2009-10.  Every  day  I  believe  our  faculty  and  staff  are  finding  new  ways  to  do  our  work 
within  these  limited  means  resulting  in  efficiencies  just  on  the  natural. 

The  Board  has  received  reports  at  our  last  two  meetings  on  how  we  are  using  technology  to  teach  students 
and  I  am  confident  that  we  are  moving  in  the  right  direction  on  providing  even  more  courses  and  full 
programs  online.  We  also  have  been  recognized  by  the  BSA  for  our  work  on  the  Digital  Marketplace  to 
provide  textbooks  and  others  materials  to  students  through  our  digital  library.  Additionally,  the  CSU  is 
implementing  BSA  recommendations  for  timely  placement  of  textbook  orders  and  faculty  sensitivity  to 
textbook  costs,  enabling  bookstores  to  get  the  best  prices  for  students. 

The  CSU  has  been  active  in  Washington  D.C.  to  ensure  that  our  students  get  the  most  support  possible 
through  federal  aid  programs  including  Pell  grants.  As  a  result  more  than  120,000  CSU  students  are 
receiving  Pell  Grants,  providing  an  increase  of  $81  million,  uping  the  maximum  award  by  $619  to  $5,350. 
The  federal  stimulus  package  also  provided  more  funds  for  the  work-study  program,  which  will  allow  an 
additional  1,400  CSU  students  to  participate  in  the  program  and  earn  a  combined  $3.5  million.  Finally  I 
am  told  that  the  American  Opportunity  Tax  Credit  will  also  benefit  CSU  students  and  families.  The  tax 
reductions  available  for  CSU  students  and  families  for  the  Tax  Year  2009  total  an  estimated  $33  million. 

A  fact  that  was  shared  with  me  that  shows  the  CSU  is  looking  to  help  students  with  financial  aid  is  that 
approximately  57  percent  of  students  receiving  a  bachelor's  degree  from  the  CSU  graduate  without  any 
education  loan  debt. 


Question  12:  Affordability  is  affected  by  how  much  it  costs  CSU  to  provide  educational  services.  What 
steps  has  and  should  CSU  take  to  hold  down  these  costs? 

In  addition  to  the  items  discussed  in  my  Question  1 1  reply,  steps  that  the  CSU  must  continue  to  work  on  to 
hold  down  educational  services  include  (1)  ongoing  work  to  develop  instructional  strategies,  including  use 
of  technology,  for  "bottleneck"  courses  that  have  relatively  low  student  success  rates  (i.e.,  that  many 
students  fail  and/or  drop,  and  thus  need  to  repeat);  (2)  developing  more  online  courses  which  also  requires 
working  with  the  faculty  union  to  make  these  available  to  more  students;  (3)  development  of  regionally- 
based,  multi-campus  academic  programs  where  it  is  cost-effective  to  do  so. 


Question  13:  The  fall  2009  freshman  admissions  cycle  took  place  in  a  challenging  context,  which 
included  budgetary  constraints  and  unfunded  over-enrollments  on  most  campuses.  Potentially,  CSU 
may  curtail  enrollment  by  up  to  10,000  students  throughout  the  system.  Are  the  trustees  informed  of  any 
trends  that  can  be  detected  from  the  preliminary  admissions  data  as  to  the  effect  the  system-wide 
impaction  has  had  on  applicants  and  their  preferred  campus  of  choice,  in  addition  to  whether  certain 
parts  of  the  state  were  more  adversely  affected  than  others  as  a  result  of  the  impaction? 

The  CSU  attempted 'to  curtail  enrollment  by  up  to  10,000  students  for  the  2009-10  year  given  the  lack  of 
funding  for  these  students,  and  in  turn  concerns  about  access  to  courses,  programs  and  services  for  these 
students  to  succeed  in  a  timely  manner.  We  were  not  successful  given  the  increasing  demand  for  college 
in  this  tough  economy,  thus  we  understand  we  will  likely  serve  7,000  more  students  throughout  the  system 
without  state  funding  even  with  campus  efforts.  This  will  continue  to  be  an  issue  that  all  of  us  cannot 
ignore;  there  is  only  so  long  we  can  maintain  this  level  of  access  without  funding  for  the  faculty  and  staff 
to  serve  these  students. 


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Question  14:  For  the  last  several  years,  CSU  has  been  engaged  in  efforts  to  reach  out  to  students  who 
have  historically  not  been  part  of  higher  education  in  California.   What  impact  will  the  system-wide 
impaction  have  on  these  students?  What  steps  is  CSU  taking  to  inform  underserved  communities  and 
the  high  schools  serving  these  students  of  the  changes  in  application  deadlines  along  with  the  potential 
for  differing  admissions  criteria  among  the  CSU  campuses? 

Underserved  communities  are  being  informed  through  their  schools  and  community  colleges.  As  stated 
above  there  has  been  outreach  through  the  churches  and  other  programs  as  well  as  distributing  an 
informational  poster  in  various  languages.  Please  see  response  to  Question  2. 

Applications  to  CSU  from  historically  under-represented  populations,  e.g.  African- Americans  and  Latino/a 
high  school  seniors  have  actually  increased.  Earlier  closings  of  application  cycles  have  not  been 
accompanied  by  any  decrease  in  the  diversity  of  the  CSU  applicant  pool  according  to  data  shared  with  the 
Board  earlier  this  spring. 


Question  15:  CSU's  latest  Compact  Performance  Measures  report  shows  that  almost  3,400  full-time 
equivalent  students  (FTES)  were  used  up  last  year  in  the  form  of  "excess  course  units"  -  that  is, 
students  taking  courses  beyond  120  percent  of  the  minimum  number  required  for  graduation.  As 
another  example,  more  than  one-third  of  regularly  admitted  freshmen  never  graduate  from  CSU.   What 
steps  should  CSU  take  to  make  more  efficient  use  of  its  enrollment  funding? 

The  Board  and  Chancellor  Reed  are  convinced  that  we  can  do  more  to  improve  student  efficiency  and 
degree  completion.  We  still  have  work  to  do  to  ensure  that  community  college  transfer  students  come  to 
our  campuses  with  the  60  units  they  need  rather  than  "excess  units"  that  they  do  not  need  to  complete  a 
degree.  We  also  need  to  do  a  better  job  in  tracking  and  advising  students  so  that  they  in  fact  stay  the 
course.  We  have  also  recently  urged  campuses  to  examine  the  status  of  what  we  call  "super  seniors"  - 
seniors  that  are  within  reach  of  degree  completion  and  steer  them  in  that  direction.  The  challenge  of 
course  is  getting  such  students  to  leave  as  they  face  this  terrible  economy  and  job  market. 

The  CSU  is  closely  monitoring  the  issue  of  excess  course  units.  Additionally,  the  CSU  is  addressing  the 
issue  of  student  dropouts  through  the  outreach  programs  we  have  mentioned  in  previous  questions  as  well 
as  limiting  academic  programs  that  require  more  than  120  units.  The  number  of  degree  programs  requiring 
120  semester  units  is  77%. 

We  now  require  annual  reporting  to  the  Board  on  the  number  of  bachelor's  programs  that  exceed  120 
required  units  and  justification  and  review  of  any  proposed  bachelor's  degree  program  proposal  that 
exceeds  120  required  units.  And  starting  in  fall  2009,  a  new  Executive  Order  will  require  students  to  use 
course  repeats  and  course  withdrawals  very  sparingly. 

All  of  these  and  others  are  part  of  our  overall  effort  to  improve  graduation  rates,  reduce  unnecessary  time 
and  costs  to  students  and  the  state,  and  to  ensure  the  quality  of  our  programs  and  services.  It  is  an  art  and  a 
science  that  I  am  confident  that  our  system  leaders  and  academic  professionals  are  working  diligently  to 
achieve  the  results  we  all  want  for  CSU. 


Question  16:  How  does  the  board  monitor  the  effectiveness  of  the  early  assessment  program  and 
whether  it  has  helped  increase  the  graduation  rates  of  CSU  students  needing  remediation  in  basic 
skills?  Do  you  have  empirical  data?  Are  you  satisfied  with  how  the  policy  is  being  implemented? 


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The  board  monitors  the  effectiveness  of  the  early  assessment  program  (EAP)  by  receiving  reports  on  the 
outcomes  of  remediation  each  year.  The  CSU  does  not  have  any  data  yet  on  whether  it  affects  graduation 
rates;  however  I  have  been  informed  that  empirical  data  indicates  that  remedial  students  that  attain 
proficiency  during  their  first  year  exhibit  graduation  rates  that  are  on  par  with  the  graduation  rates  for 
students  that  are  Math/English  proficient  at  entry. 


Question  1 7:  How  does  the  board  evaluate  which  types  of  outreach  programs  are  most  effective  in 
helping  disadvantaged  students  enroll  in  college?  Is  the  board  kept  informed  of  students '  remediation 
needs  once  enrolled  at  CSU  and  whether  they  are  being  met  appropriately? 

The  annual  outreach  report  is  provided  to  the  Board  and  the  legislature  and  includes  funding  for  the  EAP, 
our  How  to  Go  to  College  posters,  and  our  partnerships  with  churches  and  other  community  based  groups. 
Ironically  this  report  was  recently  used  to  propose  cutting  all  state  funding  for  our  academic  preparation 
and  outreach  programs  in  the  2009-10  as  part  of  the  budget  solution.  We  have  already  begun  urging  the 
Administration  and  legislative  representatives  that  these  programs  are  critical  for  the  CSU  and  the  students 
it  serves  today  and  in  the  future.  Our  hope  is  that  if  such  cuts  are  necessary  that  they  be  made  unallocated 
so  that  we  can  protect  as  many  of  these  programs  as  possible  going  forward. 


Question  18:  How  do  you  evaluate  the  quality  of  coordination  between  CSU  outreach  programs  and  K- 
12  schools  to  determine  if  it  provides  the  best  mix  of  outreach  interventions?  Is  this  an  appropriate  area 
for  the  board  to  weigh  in? 

As  noted  in  the  answer  to  Question  1 7,  the  annual  outreach  report  that  is  provided  each  year  to  the  Board 
of  Trustees  and  legislature  summarizes  the  mix  of  outreach  programs  provided  to  K-12  schools  and 
students. 

I  believe  that  this  is  an  area  the  board  can  weigh  in  on  a  system  wide  basis.  Board  members  have  diverse 
backgrounds  and  experiences  and  are  able  to  add  their  suggestions  and  even  get  involved.  Individual 
campuses  have  developed  their  own  specific  outreach  programs  with  K-12  schools  tailored  to  meet 
specific  regional  needs. 


Question  19:  High  school  students  who  want  to  pursue  a  college  pre  curriculum  in  California  must 
devote  nearly  their  entire  schedule  to  completing  A-G  coursework,  leaving  little  room  for  career  tech  or 
other  electives.  How  does  the  board  monitor  this  issue  and  weigh  in?  Do  you  believe  the  current 
requirements  are  the  best  ones,  or  have  you  considered  easing  them  even  slightly  as  some  have 
suggested  by  requiring  A-F? 

College  and  career  preparatory  education  are  often  perceived  as  competing  agendas  but  at  the  CSU  we 
consider  them  one  and  the  same.  Many  students,  parents,  and  school  counselors  imagine  that  students  must 
choose  between  preparing  for  college  or  careers.  As  an  analysis  of  high  school  graduation  requirements, 
recommended  career  technical  education  and  A-G  requirements  demonstrates,  students  are  able  to  take  4.5 
elective  courses.  We  have  also  worked  with  UC  to  get  ever  7,000  CTE  courses  approved  as  A-G  courses  - 
this  is  up  from  500  just  a  few  years  ago.  CSU  advocates  for  both  in  their  counselor  conferences.  We  do 
not  believe  it  is  an  either/or  as  suggested  by  some  advocates.  Given  the  information  I  have  reviewed,  I  do 
not  believe  that  the  current  requirements  need  to  be  eased;  but  we  do  need  to  continue  efforts  to  make  sure 
high  school  counselors,  parents  and  students  know  that  they  can  succeed  with  CTE  as  part  of  their 
curriculum  in  preparing  for  college  or  work. 


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Question  20:  Secondary  school  programs  such  as  Career  Partnership  Academies  and  small  career- 
themed  high  schools  have  shown  success  in  engaging  at-risk  students  with  "contextualized"  or  applied 
learning  strategies  that  draw  a  clear  line  from  what  they  are  gaining  in  high  school  to  what  they  will 
need  to  succeed  in  the  adult  world  of  work.  What  role,  if  any,  should  CSV  play  in  preparing  or 
providing  professional  development  to  aspiring  and  current  secondary  school  teachers  so  that  they  are 
equipped  to  develop  and  lead  such  programs? 

I  believe  that  the  CSU  should  play  a  role  in  preparing  practicing  and  prospective  secondary  teachers  to 
teach  in  and  provide  leadership  to  career  partnership  academies  and  career-themed  high  schools. 

I  understand  that  four  CSU  campuses  have  augmented  their  approved  secondary  credential  programs  to 
support  candidates'  field  placement  in  career-themed  settings  and  to  provide  them  with  the  opportunity  to 
practice  problem  based  learning  and  other  effective  strategies  for  enhancing  applied  learning  and 
application  of  academic  content  skills  to  the  world  of  work. 


Question  21:   Title  DC  violations  at  Fresno  State  have  resulted  in  very  costly  settlements.  How  is  your 
board  monitoring  this  situation  to  assure  compliance  with  the  law?  Are  you  satisfied  that  the  problems 
at  Fresno  State  have  been  addressed?  How  do  you  monitor  Title  DC  activities  at  the  other  campuses? 

The  Board  of  Trustees  monitors  this  situation  through  an  annual  report  on  the  compliance  with  the  law  and 
efforts  by  the  campus  to  meet  equal  opportunity  in  athletics  for  women.  Additionally,  a  council  of  campus 
presidents  monitor  campuses  compliance  with  Title  IX  and  athletic  equity  status  at  all  campuses  and 
reports  them  to  the  Chancellor  and  Board.  In  cases  where  campuses  are  unable  to  demonstrate  compliance 
they  are  required  to  offer  a  remedial  plan. 

Based  on  the  actions  taken  by  the  CSU  and  the  Board  I  believe  that  the  problem  at  Fresno  State  has  been 
addressed. 


Question  22:   What  is  the  board  doing  to  analyze  the  state 's  long-term  workforce  needs  and  determine 
the  system 's  capacity  to  respond  to  educating  students  to  enter  high-growth  fields? 

The  CSU  is  very  active  in  analyzing  the  state's  long  term  workforce  needs  to  determine  the  systems 
capacity  to  respond  to  educating  students  to  enter  high-growth  fields.  Prior  to  the  development  of  new 
degree  program  proposals,  extensive  workforce  demand  research  is  undertaken  to  determine  both  the 
current  market  need  and  growth  potential  of  a  degree  program. 

CSU  campuses  have  professional  advisory  boards  for  various  schools,  colleges,  departments,  and 
programs.  With  membership  including  faculty  and  professionals  in  the  field,  these  groups  contribute  to  the 
campus'  understanding  of  employment  needs.  The  Chancellor's  Office  investigates  all  new  program 
requests  and  all  claims  of  employment  needs  that  are  brought  forward  by  professional  organizations, 
accreditors,  students,  faculty  and  campuses.  Finally  proposed  degree  programs  must  provide  evidence  of 
sufficient  student  demand  and  state,  regional  or  local  workforce  need. 


Question  23:  What  is  the  appropriate  role  for  the  board  in  terms  of  helping  campuses  strengthen  their 
capacity  to  respond  more  quickly  to  the  demand  for  programs  that  train  students  to  enter  high-growth 
fields?  Conversely,  should  the  board  respond  to  declines  in  enrollment  in  programs  that  are  no  longer 
in  demand  because  of  changing  workforce  needs? 


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The  Board  reviews  degree  programs  for  approval  that  are  responsive  to  workforce  demands,  and  provides 
the  same  service  when  programs  are  slated  for  discontinuation  because  demands  have  fallen  off. 

As  described  above  in  response  to  Question  22,  the  CSU  is  very  responsive  in  analyzing  the  states  long- 
term  workforce  needs  and  helping  campuses  strengthen  their  capacity  to  respond  more  quickly  to  the 
demand  for  programs  that  train  students  to  enter  high-growth  fields. 


Question  24:  How  does  the  CSU  propose  to  align  the  opportunities  of  California 's  green  economy  with 
educational  and  career  development  programs  at  its  campuses?  Is  this  an  issue  area  on  which  your 
board  provides  guidance?  If  so,  how? 

The  Board  considers  and  approves  campus  proposals  to  implement  new  degree  programs. 

The  CSU  offers  over  50  degrees  in  programs,  in  which  students  may  learn  content  applicable  to  careers  in 
occupations  related  to  the  environment.  Some  of  these  degrees  include  Ecological  Economics, 
Environmental  Policy  and  Natural  Resources  Planning  and  Interpretation.  As  stated  in  the  answers  to  the 
questions  above  the  CSU  is  always  working  to  keep  up  with  the  demands  of  the  workforce  to  provide 
programs  and  training  for  future  careers  which  include  the  green  economy. 


Question  25:  How  does  the  CSU  propose  to  align  the  opportunities  of  California's  green  economy  with 
educational  and  career  development  programs  at  its  campuses?  Is  this  an  issue  area  on  which  your 
board  provides  guidance?  If  so,  how? 

The  CSU  proposes  to  align  the  opportunities  of  California's  green  economy  through  the  Board  approved 
strategic  plan,  "Access  to  Excellence."  Based  on  this  research  and  planning  work  we  have  identified 
sustainability  issues,  including  the  design  and  implementation  of  new  degree  programs,  is  a  priority  for  the 
system. 


Thank  you  again  for  the  chance  to  share  some  of  my  views  and  experience  thus  far  as  a  member  of  the 
Board  of  Trustees.  I  look  forward  to  working  with  you  in  the  months  and  years  ahead  for  all  students  and 
our  state. 

Sincerely, 

Henry  Mendoza 
Trustee 

cc:         Members  of  the  Senate  Rules  Committee 

Jeffrey  L.  Bleich,  Chair,  CSU  Board  of  Trustees 

Chancellor  Charles  B.  Reed 

Nettie  Sabelhaus,  Consultant,  Senate  Rules  Committee 


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SENATOR  ROBERT  DUTTON 

SENATOR  JENNY  OROPEZA 


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NETTIE  SABELHAUS,  Appointments  Consultant 
DAN  SAVAGE,  Assistant  to  SENATOR  CEDILLO 
BILL  BAILEY,  Assistant  to  SENATOR  AANESTAD 
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CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Good  afternoon.   The 
Senate  Rules  Committee  will  come  to  order. 
Please  call  the  roll. 
MS.  BROWN:   Senator  Cedillo. 
Dutton . 
Oropeza . 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:    Here. 
MS.  BROWN:   Oropeza  here. 
Aanestad . 

SENATOR  AANESTAD:   Here. 
MS.  BROWN:   Aanestad  here. 
Steinberg . 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Here. 
MS.  BROWN:   Steinberg  here. 
CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Senator  Cedillo  is  here  as 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:   I  heard  him  bellow. 


well 


CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Very  good.   We  have  four 
of  the  five  members.   We'll  await  Senator  Dutton  and  of 
course  leave  the  roll  open  for  him  as  we  take  up  various 
measures . 

All  right.   Let's  begin  with  file  item  one, 
reference  of  bills. 

(Discussion  off  the  record.) 


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1  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   We'll  leave  the  roll  open 

2  for  Senator  Dutton.   Thank  you. 

3  All  right.   File  item  two  are  governor's 

4  appointees.   These  are  for  vote  only,  as  we  did  hear  the 

5  following  members  several  weeks  ago:   Lea  A.  Chrones  as 

6  a  member  of  the  Board  of  Parole  Hearings;  Jack  E.  Garner 

7  as  a  member  of  the  Board  of  Parole  Hearings;  Hollis  H. 

8  Gillingham  as  a  member  of  the  Board  of  Parole  Hearings; 

9  Anthony  P.  Kane  as  a  member  of  the  Board  of  Parole 

10  Hearings;  and  Michael  F.  Prizmich  as  a  member  of  the 

11  Board  of  Parole  Hearings. 

12  I'd  like  to  make  a  brief  statement,  if  I  might, 

13  about  at  least  my  recommendation  as  the  chair  of  the 

14  Committee  as  to  where  we  ought  to  go  on  these 

15  nominations. 

16  Members,  we've  heard  eight  members  of  the  Board 

17  of  Parole  Hearings  this  year  alone.   We've  spent  many 

18  hours  in  these  confirmation  hearings,  and  we  have 

19  reviewed  transcripts.   And,  of  course,  the  staff  has 

20  attended  numerous  so-called  lifer  hearings. 

21  One  of  the  reasons  why  we  provide  so  much 

22  scrutiny  is  that  the  Board  of  Parole  does  much  of  its 

23  work  out  of  the  public  view,  inside  the  prisons,  outside 

24  the  view  of  the  press.   We  need  people  who  are  fair, 

25  trustworthy,  and  well -prepared,  because  we  are  trusting 


1  them  with  our  public  safety.   And  these  are  very  hard 

2  jobs .  ' 

3  And,  again,  it's  our  job  here  --  We  had  this 

4  discussion  with  regard  to  another  nominee.   It's  not  our 

5  job  to  judge  the  character  of  people.   It  is  our  job, 

6  essentially,  to  conduct  a  public  job  interview,  and  if 

7  we  decide  in  our  best  and  fair  judgment  that  somebody 

8  should  just  plain  not  get  the  job  --  they  may  otherwise 

9  be  a  fine,  outstanding  human  being  --  it  is  our 

10  discretion  and  our  duty  to  make  a  decision  accordingly. 

11  We  talked  about,  with  regard  to  all  of  the 

12  members,  serious  concerns  with  the  full  board  about  how 

13  the  board  is  interpreting  Title  15  and  recent  court 

14  decisions  about  what  the  standard  for  review  ought  to  be 

15  in  determining  whether  a  lifer  is  eligible  for  parole. 

16  We're  still  discussing  the  matter  with  the  board  and  its 

17  staff,  and  we're  also  bringing  other  issues  to  its 

18  attention. 

19  Meanwhile,  we  have  to  decide  how  to  proceed  on 

20  the  five  members  who  are  before  us.   And  I  want  to 

21  essentially  say  that  I'm  going  to  recommend  that  we 

22  approve  Ms.  Chrones,  Mr.  Garner,  Ms.  Gillingham,  and 

23  Mr.  Prizmich,  and  that  we  do  not  confirm  Anthony  Kane. 

24  And  I  want  to  explain  why. 

25  The  Senate  confirmed  Mr.  Kane  in  July  2007  as 


1  an  associate  superintendent  within  the  Department  of 

2  Corrections.   He  was  the  person  in  charge  of  all  level- 

3  two  and  -three  prisons.   Yet  he  chose  to  retire  just 

4  three  months  after  confirmation.   He  told  us  that  he 

5  attended  a  CalPERS  workshop  on  October  10th  where  he 

6  discovered  his  best  retirement  date  was  October  the 

7  18th. 

8  It  simply  doesn't  feel  right.   In  2007  when 

9  Mr.  Kane  was  up  for  confirmation  for  his  previous  job, 

10  he  told  the  Rules  Committee  under  Senator  Perata's 

11  leadership,  quote,  "Why  do  I  want  this  job?   My  answer 

12  to  the  question  is  that  I  would  like  to  be  part  --  to 

13  take  part  in  making  positive  changes  to  this  department 

14  and  give  back  to  CDCR  what  has  been  afforded  to  me.   I 

15  feel  I  have  the  energy,  passion,  and  desire  to  assist  in 

16  making  this  change.   My  desire  is  to  be  a  change  agent 

17  and  a  leader  that  will  assist  in  steering  the  department 

18  in  a  positive  direction."   And  yet  three  months  later, 

19  he  chose  to  retire,  which  is  his  right,  but  three  months 

20  after  that  confirmation  hearing. 

21  So  here  is  the  question  before  us:   Should  we 

22  reward  this  nominee  with  $111,800  a  year  salary  for  this 

23  job  after  leaving  his  previous  job  in  just  15  months 

24  with  full  safety  retirement?   I  think  the  answer  is  no. 

25  We  are  sending  a  message  that  we  expect  our 


1  highest -ranking  appointees  to  provide  leadership  and  a 

2  sense  of  responsibility  for  the  positions  to  which 

3  they're  appointed.   And  people  have  complete  freedom  of 

4  choice  to  do  whatever  they  want  with  their  lives,  but 

5  then  to  come  back  and  get  a  full  safety  pension  and  this 

6  position  does  not  feel  right. 

7  There's  two  other  issues  that  troubled  me  as 

8  chair  of  the  Committee.   I  asked  Mr.  Kane  about  one  of 

9  his  cases,  and  an  attorney  came  to  our  witness  table  to 

10  discuss  it,  and  he  was  adamant  that  the  attorney  seated 

11  next  to  him  referred  to  the  wrong  case.   He  said,  and 

12  this  is  a  quote,  "That  wasn't  your  case.   I  remember 

13  exactly  the  case  that  it  was."   But  it  was  he  who  had 

14  the  facts  wrong,  as  it  turns  out,  as  we  went  and 

15  researched  it.   His  certainty,  despite  the  fact  that  he 

16  was  wrong,  again  gives  me  some  serious  reservations 

17  about  how  he  would  handle  matters  outside  of  his  view. 

18  He  also,  you  know,  stated  that  in  2007,  that  he 

19  wanted  to  be  a  change  agent.   And,  true,  that  was  a 

20  different  job;  but  in  this  job  where  most,  if  not  all, 

21  of  the  other  nominees  said  that  as  part  of  their  job  as 

22  arbiter  and  judge,  they  also  deem  themselves  to  have  a 

23  responsibility  to  be  advocates  for  a  better  system, 

24  Mr.  Kane  said  that  he  didn't  view  that  as  part  of  his 

25  role. 


1  With  regard  to  the  pension  issue,  again,  I  just 

2  want  to  say  to  my  colleagues  and  to  the  public  that  I 

3  want  to  announce  that  I  will  be  seeking  a  change  in  the 

4  statute  so  that  appointees  to  state  boards  and 

5  commissions  will  no  longer  be  able  to  receive  both  a 

6  state  pension  as  a  retiree  and  a  full  salary  as  a  member 

7  of  the  board.   I  hope  the  Rules  Committee,  my 

8  colleagues,  and  my  colleagues  throughout  the  legislature 

9  will  join  me  in  this  important  effort.   I  think  it's  an 

10  important  signal  to  the  public,  and  we'll  bring  that 

11  forward  forthwith 

12  So,  again,  the  recommendation  is  to,  in  fact, 

13  approve  Lea  A.  Chrones,  Jack  E.  Garner, 

14  Hollis  H.  Gillingham,  and  Michael  Prizmich,  and  I'll 

15  take  a  motion  to  that  effect. 

16  SENATOR  OROPEZA:    I  so  move. 

17  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Moved  by  Senator  Oropeza. 

18  Other  comments  from  Members? 

19  Yes,  Senator  Oropeza. 

20  SENATOR  OROPEZA:   Go  ahead.   Go  ahead. 

21  SENATOR  CEDILLO :   No.   Please. 

22  SENATOR  OROPEZA:   I  would  just  like  to  say  that 

23  I  concur  with  the  chair,  particularly  -- 

24  Well,  I'd  like  to  highlight  the  last  item  that 

25  you  talked  about  in  terms  of  bringing  legislation  that 


1  will  make  it  impossible  to,  in  essence,  double-dip  in 

2  our  state  system  and  have  a  full  state  pension  and  then 

3  come  back  for,  you  know,  another  job,  another  bite  at 

4  the  apple.   I  think  that's  been  a  manipulation  of  the 

5  system  and  one  that  is  --  I  don't  think  shows  good 

6  faith. 

7  So  I'm  very  pleased,  Mr.  Chair,  that  you  are 

8  proposing  this  action  and  will  be  happy  to  be  supportive 

9  when  it  comes  forward  and  do  whatever  I  can  to  be 

10  helpful  in  making  sure  that  it  is  adopted. 

11  In  terms  of  these  other  nominees,  the  ongoing 

12  issue  that  we  had  --  We  had  lengthy  discussions  with 

13  these  individuals,  and  I  think  that  they  were  very 

14  enlightening  and  important  to  our  knowledge  curve,  or  at 

15  least  my  knowledge  curve,  in  terms  of  understanding  how 

16  the  Department  of  Corrections  works,  how  the  --  how 

17  Parole  works,  and  I  think  I  have  come  to  learn  that  I 

18  feel  that  there  needs  to  be  reform.   And  I'm  --  I  don't 

19  hold  that  as  a  reason  to  withhold  support  for  these 

20  nominees,  for  these  other  four  nominees,  but  do  want  to 

21  point  out  for  the  record  that  I  think  there ' s  some  real 

22  things  that  were  highlighted  in  those  discussions  that 

23  need  to  be  addressed,  either  legislatively, 

24  administratively,  or  somehow. 

25  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Great.   Thank  you. 


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2  SENATOR  CEDILLO:   Well,  only  to  restate  again 

3  our  concern,  or  at  least  my  concern,  that  we  don't  have 

4  the  type  of  diversity  that  I  believe  is  mandated  by  the 

5  Code  -  - 

6  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Good  point. 

7  SENATOR  CEDILLO:    --  that  we  should,  and  that 

8  the  problem  exists  that  we  believe  and  I  believe  that 

9  there  are  too  many  people  who  are  eligible  and  notorious 

10  for  parole  and  they're  not  being  paroled.   So  that's  a 

11  fundamental  failure  of  the  system.   I  believe  it's 

12  partly  tied  to  the  appointees.   Part  of  it  --  I  don't 

13  think  it's  the  architecture  of  the  parole  board.   I 

14  think  it's  probably  the  failure  of  placing  the  right 

15  appointees  in  those  positions  as  they  become  available. 

16  So  I  will  continue,  as  I  have  in  the  prior,  to  not  take 

17  a  position  in  support. 

18  You  know,  I  think  we  have  to  think  about  the 

19  second  point  when  people  are  in  compliance  --  It  appears 

20  that  Mr.  Kane  is  in  compliance  with  the  spirit  and 

21  letter  of  the  law,  and  I  think  it's  appropriate  to 

22  reevaluate  whether  or  not  that's  a  circumstance  that  we 

23  want  to  continue  to  permit. 

24  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Thank  you,  Senator. 

25  Anybody  else? 


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SENATOR  DUTTON:    Aye. 

MS.  BROWN:   Dutton  aye. 

Oropeza . 

SENATOR  OROPEZA:   Aye. 

MS.  BROWN:   Oropeza  aye. 

Aanestad . 

SENATOR  AANESTAD:   Aye. 

MS.  BROWN:   Aanestad  aye. 

Steinberg . 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Aye. 

MS.  BROWN:   Steinberg  aye. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Okay. 

Four  nothing. 

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MS.  BROWN:   Senator  Dutton. 

SENATOR  DUTTON:    Aye. 

MS.  BROWN:   Senator  Dutton 

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MR.  SCHMIDT:   Just  let  it  sit. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Okay. 

SENATOR  AANESTAD:   What's  his  date? 

MS.  SABELHAUS:   28th  of  July. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:  Okay.  Never  mind.  Let's 
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Governor's   Appointees: 

MARY   S.   FERNANDEZ,   Undersecretary,   Department 

Questions   by   CHAIRMAN    STEINBERG    re: 

Approaching   challenges   in   the 
difficult   budget  environment                   4 

Timeline    on    strategic    plan 

Implementation    of  strategic    plan             6 

What  needs  to   be   fixed   in   CDCR    ...        7 

Completion   of  automation   of  inmate 
files    14 

Question    by    SENATOR    AANESTAD    re: 

STATEMENT    BY    SENATOR    DUTTON    13 

Witnesses    in    Support  of  MARY    S.    FERNANDEZ: 
RUSSELL   W.    SNYDER,    California    Asphalt 

SAM    HASSOUN,    Association    of  California 

TED    TOPPIN,   Professional  Engineers   in 
California    Government  and   California 
Association   o  f  Pro  fe  ss  io  n  a  1  S  cie  n  tis  ts   18 

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APPEARANCES 
MEM  BERS    PRESENT 

SENATOR    DARRELL    STEINBERG,    Chair 
SENATOR    GIL    CEDILLO 
SENATOR    SAMUEL    AANESTAD 
SENATOR    ROBERT    DUTTON 

STAFF    PRESENT 

GREG    SCHMIDT,    Executive    Officer 
JANE    LEONARD    BROWN,    Committee   Assistant 
NETTIE    SABELHAUS,    Appointments    Consultant 
DAN    SAVAGE,   Assistant  to    SENATOR    CEDILLO 
BILL    BAILEY,    Assistant  to    SENATOR    AANESTAD 
CHRIS    BURNS,    Assistant   to    SENATOR    DUTTON 

ALSO    PRESENT 

MARY    S.    FERNANDEZ,    Undersecretary,    Department   of 
Corrections  and    Rehabilitation 

STEPHEN    L.   EDINGER,   Member,  Oil  Spill  Response 
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TAM    M      DODUC,   Member,   State   Water   Resources   Control 
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FRANCES    S.   WEBER,   Member,   State   Water 
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JACK    HAWKS,  California  Water  Association   ....        48 

MIKE   DILLON,  California   Association   of 
Sanitation  Agencies   49 

BARBARA   BYRNE,   Planning   and   Conservation 
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Vote-Only  Item    re  Confirmation   of: 

MONICA   S.  HUNTER,   Ph.D.,  Member,  Water  Quality 
Control  Board,  Central  Coast  Region   52 

RUSSELL  M.  JEFFRIES,  Member,  Water  Quality 
Control  Board,  Central  Coast  Region    52 

KATHERINE   J.   HART,   Member,   Water  Quality 
Control  Board,   Central  Coast  Region    52 

THOMAS   J.    DAVIS,   Member,   Water  Quality 
Control  Board,  Colorado   River  Basin   Region    ...       52 

JEFFREY  A.   HAYS,   Member,  WaterQuality 

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1  PROCEEDINGS 

2  CHAIRMAN   STEINBERG  :     Good  afternoon,  everyone. 

3  The  Senate  Rules  Committee  will  come  to  order. 

4  I  apologize  for  being  late.    I  have  a  few  other 

5  pressing    matters  going   on   here  in   the  Legislature. 

6  We  do  have  enough   members  for  a  quorum,  so, 

7  Jane,  if  you   could    please  call  the  roll. 

8  MS.  BROWN:     S  e  n  a  to  r  C  e  d  illo . 

9  SENATOR   CEDILLO  :     Here. 

10  MS.   BROWN:     Cedillohere. 

11  Dutton. 

12  Oropeza. 

13  Aa  nesta  d  . 

14  SENATOR  AANESTAD  :     Here. 

15  MS.  BROWN:     Aanestad   here. 

16  Steinberg. 

17  CHAIRMAN   STEINBERG  :     Here. 

18  MS.   BROWN:     Steinberg   here. 

19  CHAIRMAN   STEINBERG:     A  quorum    has  been 

20  established.     Let  me  begin  the  meeting,  though,  by 

21  congratulating   the  two  gentlemen  sitting  to  my  left, 

22  Greg   Schmidt,  Secretary  of  our  Senate,  and  Senator  Sam 

23  Aanestad,  new   grandfathers. 

24  (A  pp  la  u  se  . ) 

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ELLEN    M.  WAY,   Member,  Water  Quality 

Control  Board,  Colorado  River  Basin   Region   ...      52 

R.   KEITH    DYAS,  Member,  Water  Quality 
Control  Board,  Lahontan   Region   52 

HEIDI   J.   CARPENTER-HARRIS,   Member,   Water 
Quality   Control  Board,   North   Coastal  Region    ..       52 

JOHN    M.   DUNKER,   Member,   Water  Quality   Control 
Board,  North   Coastal  Region    52 

GEOFFREY   M.    HALES,   Member,   Water  Quality 
Control  Board,  North   Coastal  Region    52 

JOHN    H.   MULLER,   Member,   Water  Quality   Control 
Board,  San   Francisco   Bay   Region    52 


10       RAMESHWAR   SINGH,   Ph.D.,   Member,   Water  Quality 
Control  Board,  San   Francisco   Bay   Region   52 

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RICHARD    FRESCHI,  Member,  Water  Quality 

12  Control  Board,  Santa  Ana   Region   52 

13  BETTY  H.  OLSON,  Ph.D.,   Member,  Western   States 
Water  Council  52 

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18  CertificateofReporter  54 

19  APPENDIX   (Written   Responses  of  Appointees) 

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1  CHAIRMAN   STEINBERG  :     H  op  e  e  ve  ry  bod  y  ,  m  o  th  ers 

2  and   children,  are  all  doing  well,  and  they're  healthy. 

3  That's  great. 

4  Okay.     Now   to  the  business  at  hand.     We  do  have 

5  four  gubernatorial  appointees  appearing   today,  and   why 

6  don't  we   oegin  with   Mary  S.   Fernandez  as  under"'retary 

7  of  the  Department  of  Corrections  and   Rehabilitation 

8  Welcome. 

9  MS.   FERNANDEZ:     Thankyou. 

10  CHAIRMAN    STEINBERG:      It's   the   tradition    here   Of 

11  the  Committee  to  allow   the   nominee  to  introduce  his  or 

12  her  family    member  --  family  members,  close  personal 

13  friends.     Please. 

14  MS.  FERNANDEZ:     I  have  my  three  children   that  I 

15  would   like  to  introduce.     I  have  Christopher,  Rachelle, 

16  and   Steven. 

17  CHAIRMAN   STEIN  BERG  :     Welcome.     Welcome  to  all 

18  of  you       Hope   this   isn't  too   boring       I'm    sure   it  won't 

19  be 

20  Welcome  to  you,  Ms.   Fernandez.     Would   you   like 

21  to  make  a   brief  opening   statement  about  how   you  see  this 

22  role  that  you  are  undertaking. 

23  MS.   FERNANDEZ:     I  have  a   b  rief  sta  te  m  e  n  t  I 

24  w  ou  Id   like  to  rea  d  . 

25  CHAIRMAN    STEINBERG  :     Please. 

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1  MS.  FERNANDEZ:    I  would  like  to  thank  the 

2  Senate  Rules  Committee  for  giving  me  the  opportunity  to 

3  address  my  work  experience  and  how  I  am  leveraging  that 

4  experience  in  my  role  as  undersecretary  of 

5  administration  for  CDCR. 

5  I  am  a  career  civil  servant  and  have  over 

7  30  years'  experience  in  administrative  functions, 

8  14  years  at  the  executive  level.   I  am  currently  working 

9  to  improve  the  department's  accountability  so  that 

0  taxpayer  dollars  are  spent  effectively. 

1  I  am  sponsoring  several  system  control  projects 

2  as  part  of  Secretary  Cate's  cost  control  measures  to 

3  reduce  expenditures.  These  projects  have  already 

4  yielded  some  significant  savings.    For  example,  earlier 

5  this  year,  we  performed  a  state  vehicle  audit  to 

6  inventory  and  assess  the  use  of  our  state  vehicles.   The 

7  audit  is  nearly  complete,  and  we  are  currently 

B  implementing  policies  to  tighten  up  our  vehicle  usage. 
9  In  addition,  we  are  auditing  our  positions, 

0  working  to  reconcile  the  hundreds  of  positions  that  are 

1  not  properly  aligned  with  their  budget  authority.   We 

2  also  completed  a  review  of  the  4300  headquarter 

3  positions  and  eliminated  over  430.    We  have  inventoried 

4  hand-held  devices,  BlackBerries  and  cell  phones,  and  cut 

5  expenses  by  more  than  half  a  million  dollars. 

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1  difficult  of  financial  and  budget  times,  and  as  I  look 

2  at  all  of  the  things  that  you  are  responsible  for  as  the 

3  assistant  secretary,  automating  inmate  records  and 

4  files,  the  physical  state  of  many  of  our  facilities  --  I 

5  know  that  Mr.  Bailey  and  Mr.  Gladstone  visited  Pleasant 

6  Valley  Prison  this  past  winter  and  saw  a  gym  where  water 

7  was  literally  pouring  through  the  roof  onto  an  inmate's 

8  bed.    Mr.  Bailey  can  correct  me  if  I'm  misstating 

9  anything.   The  issue  of  overtime,  especially  in  remote 

10  prisons,  the  issue  we  spoke  about  with  Matt  Cate  at 

11  great  length,  about  attracting  and  retraining  top 

12  managers  here  so  that  there  isn't  so  much  turnover,  and 

13  a  training  and  management  plan  to  do  that. 

14  How  do  you  approach  these  various  challenges  in 

15  the  midst  of  this  difficult  budget  environment  that  we 

16  find  ourselves  in? 

17  MS.  FERNANDEZ:    Well,  number  one,  as  I  have 

18  found  low-hanging  fruit,  as  what  I  just  mentioned  in  my 

19  opening  statement,  I  have  gone  after  that,  those  issues, 

20  and  put  together  teams  to  start  working  on  it.   And  the 

21  way  I  approach  it  is  by  using  a  project-management 

22  approach  so  things  don't  fall  by  the  wayside.   I  make 

23  sure  that  every  project  has  a  charter,  has  an  action 

24  plan,  has  due  dates.   We  meet  regularly,  sometimes 

25  weekly,  sometimes  monthly,  to  make  sure  that  people  are 

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1  In  response  to  the  criticism  of  our  lease 

2  management,  I  recently  chartered  a  strike  team  to 

3  review,  consolidate,  and  monitor  our  leases.   That  was 

4  just  last  month.   We  have  already  canceled  $400,000  in 

5  leases. 

6  I  am  guiding  several  important  initiatives  in 

7  the  area  of  human  resources,  including  succession 

8  planning  and  leadership  training;  and  in  the  area  of 

9  information  technology,  the  implementation  of  a  tool  to 

0  automate  our  admin  processes  and  systems,  and  another  IT 

1  system  to  streamline  and  automate  our  inmate  case 

2  records. 

3  During  my  career,  I  have  always  enjoyed  making 

4  a  difference,  and  I  am  very  challenged  by  the  issues 

5  facing  CDCR.    I  believe  that  by  working  with  the 

6  talented  and  passionate  employees  of  the  department,  we 

7  will  improve  our  admin  functions.    I  will  continue  my 

8  efforts  to  move  towards  effectiveness,  transparency,  and 

9  accountability  at  CDCR,  and  I  look  forward  to  working 

0  with  you  to  achieve  that  vision. 

1  Thank  you  for  considering  me  for  this  very 

2  important  role. 

3  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Thank  you.    I'll  begin,  if 

4  I  may. 

5  You  are  taking  this  position  on  during  the  most 

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1  moving  forward  on  the  issues,  and  monitor  it  as  we're 

2  going  along. 

3  In  addition,  I  feel  very  strongly  that  in  order 

4  to  get  after  some  long-term,  big  changes,  we  need  to 

5  develop  a  good  solid  strategic  plan,  and  that  will 

6  incorporate  many  of  the  things  that  you  talked  about. 

7  So  we  are  working  towards  our  strategic  plan.   It's 

8  going  to  be  very  much  an  actionable  strategic  plan.   It 

9  will  not  be  a  sit-on-the-shelf. 

10  In  previous  departments  that  I've  worked  at,  I 

11  have  implemented  strategic  plans,  both  at  DPA,  back  in 

12  the  '90s,  and  at  State  Personnel  Board,  and  both  of 

13  those  strategic  plans  moved  the  organization  to  change. 

14  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    When  can  we  expect  the 

15  strategic  plan  to  be  public? 

16  MS.  FERNANDEZ:    We  are  working  through  it  right 

17  now.   I  would  expect  late  summer,  early  fall,  you  know, 

18  given  all  of  the  challenges  with  the  budget  right  now. 

19  We  are.... 

20  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    And  how  long  will  the 

21  strategic  plan  take  to  implement  once  it's  -- 

22  MS.  FERNANDEZ:    I  expect  implementation  to 

23  begin  immediately.   There  will  be  action  plans  with  due 

24  dates,  and  you'll  start  seeing  results. 

25  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    When  will  it  be  completed? 

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1  MS.  FERNANDEZ:    I  believe  we're  going  after  a 

2  three-year  plan.   Three  to  five.    I  don't  know  that 

3  we've  settled  on  that  yet. 

4  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Let  me  ask  it  maybe  a 

5  different  way.    From  your  work  record  and  references  and 

6  what  everyone  says,  that  you  are  --  you  know,  you  are 

7  suited  to  take  on  this  challenge.    But  you're  one 

8  person.   And  I  sort  of  want  to  get  your  sense  as  sort  of 

9  the  chief  administrator,  if  you  will,  what  the  state  of 

10  Corrections  is  right  now.    I  mean,  what  ~ 

11  People  are  out  there  smiling. 

12  You  know,  what  do  you  see  as  broken  that  needs 

13  to  be  fixed? 

14  MS.  FERNANDEZ:    Well,  first  of  all  I  would  like 

15  to  say  that  one  of  the  reasons  that  I  decided  to  go  to 

16  Corrections  was  after  I  met  Matt  Cate  and  Brett  Morgan. 

17  They  definitely  have  a  vision  for  where  they  want 

18  Corrections  to  go,  and  they  understood  the  strategic 

19  plan.    So  that  was  one  reason  that  I  went  to  the 

20  department. 

21  There's  also  --  All  of  my  managers  are 

22  extremely  talented.   There's  a  crisis  every  day  that 

23  everyone  --  Right  now  we're  dealing  with  the  H1N1.    I 

24  mean,  it's  in  the  paper  every  day.    Every  hour,  there's 

25  another  crisis.    We  need  a  good  strategic  plan  to  help 

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1  spoke  with  Secretary  Cate  about  is  the  succession 

2  planning  area,  and  we  have  a  succession  plan  now.   We've 

3  done  a  gap  analysis.   We've  rolled  out  to  12 

4  institutions,  and  we  are  beginning  to  develop  plans  so 

5  that  our  feeder  classes  can  move  into  some  of  the 

6  leadership  roles  out  in  the  institutions. 

7  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    What  is  gap  analysis? 

8  MS.  FERNANDEZ:    Gap  analysis  is  where  you 

9  determine  what  you're  going  to  need  in  the  future.   You 

10  take  a  look  at  the  aging  employee  population,  and  then 

11  you  decide  where  we're  going  to  need  people,  how  many, 

12  and  in  what  classes. 

13  And  as  far  as  what  I  —  My  immediate  goal,  I 

14  think  as  you  can  hear  from  my  opening  statement,  is  that 

15  I  want  to  get  our  costs  in  control.    We  have  many  things 

16  that  were  unfunded.    State  cars  weren't  completely 

17  funded;  BlackBerries  weren't  completely  funded.    So  I'm 

18  going  to  try  to  get  our  fiscal  situation  in  control, 

19  including  overtime,  which  we've  had  great  success  at 

20  this  year.   And  also,  through  the  BIS  system,  we'll  have 

21  a  better  handle  on  where  we're  at  fiscally  more 

22  frequently. 

23  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Okay.    Senators 

24  Dutton,  Aanestad. 

25  SENATOR  AANESTAD:    Since  you  brought  up 

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1  focus  people,  to  get  those  talented  people  moving 

2  forward  to  change  the  department. 

3  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    I'd  like  a  little  more 

4  specificity,  please.    I  want  to  have  an  honest  dialogue 

5  here  about  what's  —   We  all  know  that  — 

6  MS.  FERNANDEZ:    Specifics  about  what's  broken? 

7  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    -- Corrections  - 

8  I  think  the  world  of  Matt  Cate.    I  think  he's 

9  the  right  leader.    No  issue  there.    But  Corrections  is  a 

10  mess.   And  how  do  you  see  it  from  where  you  sit  and 

11  stand,  and  what  is  the  most  important  thing  you  want  to 

12  accomplish  over  the  next,  you  know,  18  months  to  begin 

13  turning  around  the  common  perception  that  Corrections  is 

14  a  mess. 

15  MS.  FERNANDEZ:    I  work  on  that  every  day. 

16  There  are  many  positive  areas  in  the  department, 

17  particularly  IT.    I  did  have  a  lot  of  interaction  with 

18  the  department  back  in  the  '90s,  and  IT  was  pretty  much 

19  a  joke.   There  was  really  no  automation.   There  was 

20  nothing  happening.    Now  we  have  the  BIS  project  and  the 

21  SOMS  project  that  are  going  to  take  us  into  the  21st 

22  century.    I'm  very  proud  of  that,  and  I  like  to  get  our 

23  folks  out  talking  about  it,  spreading  the  word  that 

24  Corrections  is  doing  a  good  job  in  that  area. 

25  The  other  area  that  we're  working  on  that  you 

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1  overtime  -- 

2  MS.  FERNANDEZ:    Yes. 

3  SENATOR  AANESTAD:    I,  along  with  the  rest  of 

4  the  public  that  I  talk  to,  cannot  comprehend  nearly  half 

5  a  billion  dollars  in  overtime  costs,  especially  when  we 

6  see  --  and  I'll  just  be  frank.   This  was  a  topic  of 

7  discussion  at  our  Republican  lunch  today  regarding  costs 

8  and  overspending  and  poor  management. 

9  When  we  see  a  prisoner  brought  into  a  private 

10  hospital  or  one  of  the  local  hospitals  by  helicopter, 

11  accompanied  by  four  armed  guards  at  the  time  and  four 

12  more,  I  believe,  at  the  --  during  the  time  that  he  was 

13  in  the  hospital.   There  were  14  separate  correctional 

14  officers  in  charge  of  guarding  this  one  individual  in 

15  the  hospital. 

16  In  another  instance  in  another  hospital  not  far 

17  away  where  they  have  an  entire  floor  dedicated  to 

18  treating  CDC  prisoners,  the  ratio  was  two  guards  for 

19  each  patient,  which  in  some  instances  exceeds  the 

20  nurse-patient  ratio  in  California.   And  the  hospital 

21  actually  had  come  up  with  a  plan  suggested  to  CDC  where 

22  for  a  fraction  of  the  cost  they  could  close  the  entire 

23  floor  off  and  put  one  or  two  officers  in  charge  of 

24  security  and  have  it  just  as  secure,  and  they  could  get 

25  no  where  with  administration  as  far  as  listening  to  the 

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status  quo. 

So  I'm  curious  as  to  your  statement  that  you're 
controlling  overtime  costs  when  we  see  such  rank 
mismanagement.   And  I  think  the  public  would  like  to 
have  some  reassurance  that  something  is  being  done  at 
the  outrageous  cost  to  the  taxpayers  through  what  I 
believe  is  mismanagement  of  the  guards'  time. 

MS.  FERNANDEZ:    I  have  to  say  that  I  agree  with 
you.    I  think  it's  an  area  that  we  need  to  look  at. 
There  are  three  drivers  of  overtime,  and  we  were  at  a 
half  --  a  million  dollars  in  2007-'08,  and  we're  down  to 
375  million  this  year  (verbatim).    And  the  three  drivers 
of  overtime  are  vacant  positions,  sick  leave,  and  the 
guarding  and  transportation  for  medical.    And  the  two 
areas  that  we've  had  great  success  at  is  reducing  our 
number  of  vacancies  and  instituting  sick-leave  policies 
so  that  those  costs  have  come  down  tremendously. 

The  medical  guarding,  as  you  know,  is  under  the 
receivership  as  far  as  when  they  go  out,  if  they  go  out 
by  helicopter,  all  of  that.   We  are  working  with  the 
receiver.   Things  are  —  over  the  last,  probably,  three 
months  have  become  much  more  amicable  between  us,  and  we 
are  discussing  these  types  of  issues.    And  that  is  one 
of  the  issues  that  we  need  to  go  after  and  figure  it 
out.    I  agree  with  you  completely. 

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1  becoming  collaborative  with  the  receiver  also. 

2  SENATOR  AANESTAD:    Thank  you. 

3  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Senator  Dutton. 

4  SENATOR  DUTTON:   Thank  you,  Mr.  President.    I 

5  actually  enjoyed  the  time  that  I  was  able  to  talk  with 

6  Undersecretary  Fernandez,  and  I've  got  a  lot  of 

7  confidence  --  matter  of  fact,  I  told  her,  I  said  --  the 

8  thousand  BlackBerry  issue.   There's  a  lot  of  savings 

9  involved  with  that.   She's  already  actually  covered  her 

10  first  year  of  salary  and  benefits,  so  I'm  actually 

11  looking  forward  to  whatever  else  she  may  be  coming  up 

12  with. 

13  I  think  also,  too,  along  the  lines  of  what 

14  Senator  Aanestad  was  talking  about  as  well,  I  think  it's 

15  important  for  us  to  also  pledge  we'll  give  her  support 

16  to  try  to  --  if  there's  a  requirement  --  I've  already 

17  made  this  offer  to  her.    If  she's  got  issues  or 

18  concerns,  somehow  we  need  to  have  some  type  of 

19  legislative  clearance,  something  like  that.   I  told  her 

20  that  I  was  sure  that  everybody,  Democrats  and 

21  Republicans  alike,  would  certainly  welcome  any  thoughts 

22  or  ideas  on  how  to  do  things  more  efficient  and  more 

23  beneficial 

24  So  I'm  pleased  with  this  nominee.    I  don't 

25  really  have  any  questions,  but  I  did  want  to  make  just 

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SENATOR  AANESTAD:    Are  you  comfortable  that 
you,  as  an  individual,  can  do  something  about  this? 

MS.  FERNANDEZ:    It  won't  be  me  as  an 
individual.    It  will  be  our  management  team.    It  will  be 
Secretary  Cate,  and  it  will  be  chief  of  staff,  Brett 
Morgan,  who  will  be  working  with  them  as  we  have  on 
other  issues. 

SENATOR  AANESTAD:    And  yet  -  I'll  be  honest 
with  you.    When  we  work  in  teams  in  this  building, 
oftentimes  things  don't  get  done  as  much  as  one  person 
with  a  burr  under  their  bonnet  going  after  it,  and  it 
gets  done.    I  have  not  worked  in  your  bureaucracy,  so  I 
don't  know  if  there's  any  way  we  can  put  a  burr  under 
your  bonnet,  but  you're  certainly  in  the  right  chair  to 
be  able  to  effect  something. 

MS.  FERNANDEZ:    And  as  I  mentioned,  it  is  one 
of  my  major  initiatives,  is  overtime,  and  we  do  have  a 
current  analysis  baselining  overtime.    We  needed  to  get 
a  handle  on  where  we  were  at  with  overtime,  what  all  the 
drivers  were,  get  all  the  data  together,  and  we're 
providing  that  to  the  department  of  finance  this  month. 
And  we  will  be  having  a  dialogue  with  them  and  then  the 
receiver  to  figure  out  how  we're  going  to  move  forward. 
And  I  will  be  driver  at  this,  but  I  cannot  do  it  alone. 
And  we  are  a  very  collaborative  team,  and  we  are 


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1  that  general  statement.   And  I'll  be  more  than  happy  to 

2  make  the  motion  to  approve  the  nomination  of  this 

3  appointee. 

4  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Thank  you.   You  can  put 

5  the  motion  on  the  floor. 

6  SENATOR  DUTTON:    Sn  moved. 

7  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Moved  by  Senator  Dutton. 

8  1  have  one  other  question,  and  then  we'll  take 

9  the  other  witnesses. 

10  Just  in  terms  of  the  strategic  plan  and 

11  timeframes  again,  when  do  you  expect  the  department  will 

12  complete  the  automation  of  the  inmate  files  as  Texas  and 

13  other  states  have  accomplished? 

14  MS.  FERNANDEZ:   The  contract  just  got  signed, 

15  and  it  looks  like  phase  three  is  completed  in  2013. 

16  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    How  many  phases  are  there? 

17  MS.  FERNANDEZ:   There's  three  phases.  The 

18  adult  institution  files  will  be  done  by  2012,  parole's 

19  will  be  done  by  2012,  and  DJJ  will  be  done  by  2013. 

20  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Okay.    Hopefully  we'll  be 

21  out  of  the  budget  crisis  by  then.   All  right.   Thank 

22  you. 

23  Witnesses  in  support  of  the  nominee.   The  way 

24  we'll  do  it  is  let's  use  that  mic  there.   If  you  can 

25  stand  up  and  kind  of  get  in  line,  we'll  take  the 

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1  testimony.    Thank  you. 

2  MR.  SNYDER:    Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman  and 

3  Members,  for  the  opportunity  to  speak.    It's  kind  of 

4  interesting,  kind  of  casually  leaning  against  here. 

5  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Loosen  the  tie. 

6  MR.  SNYDER:    I  may  sell  it  if  things  keep  going 

7  the  way  they're  going. 

8  My  name  is  Russell  Snyder.   I'm  the  executive 

9  director  of  the  California  Asphalt  Pavement  Association 

10  and  a  former  quality  program  manager  and  deputy  director 

11  for  policy  and  administration  for  the  California 

12  Department  of  Transportation,  everybody's  favorite 

13  agency.   They  love  to  hate  Caltrans. 

14  I'm  compelled  to  be  here,  because  Mary 

15  Fernandez  is,  hands  down,  the  most  impressive  leader  and 

16  manager  I've  ever  come  across  in  my  experience  working 

17  in  state  government  and  also  since  I  left  state  service 

18  in  2002.    Unbelievably  optimistic,  very  effective, 

19  bulletproof  credibility,  able  to  move  mountains. 

20  I  mean,  I  know  that  any  one  person  can't  solve 

21  all  the  challenges  that  we  face  today.   It  does  take  a 

22  collaborative  effort.   And  I've  never  seen  anybody  being 

23  more  effective  and  move  the  bureaucracy  of  state 

24  government  and  get  things  done,  and  get  buy-in  from 

25  everybody  as  Mary  has,  so  I  had  to  be  here  today. 

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1  During  that  period  when  I  worked  with 

2  Ms.  Fernandez,  budget  times  were  tough.    In  fact, 

3  Caltrans  was  going  through  layoffs  during  that  period, 

4  and  there  was  a  huge  distrust  and  mistrust  between 

5  management,  employee  unions,  and  the  like.   And  despite 

6  that,  it  was  a  championship  and  a  leadership  from 

7  Ms.  Fernandez  that  was  able  to  rally  many  of  us  despite 

8  all  types  of  adversity  at  the  time,  budget,  personnel, 

9  and  morale,  and  so  forth,  and  managed  to  actually 

10  systematically  help  us  stroll  through  the  cost-cutting 

11  and  the  effectiveness.   She  also  led  the  innovation  in 

12  government  shortly  thereafter.   And  when  I  was  working 

13  the  private  sector,  she  effectively  managed  to  partner 

14  with  private  industry  to  solve  many  of  the  problems  that 

15  government  alone  could  not. 

16  So  her  leadership  and  her  ability  have  both 

17  been  tested  and  she  got  a  full  focus  on  the  problems  at 

18  hand.   And  to  come  up  with  solutions  that  frankly  --  and 

19  I  agree  with  Senator  Aanestad  that  bureaucracy  alone  may 

20  not  be  able  to  solve,  but  she  knows  how  to  leverage 

21  industry  in  actually  cutting  through  a  lot  of  the  issues 

22  to  provide  exposure. 

23  I  must  add  she  did  all  of  that  without  the  use 

24  of  one  ounce  of  Prozac  or  any  substances.   To  that  end, 

25  I  lend  my  support  to  Ms.  Fernandez.   Thank  you. 

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1  I'm  pleased  I  had  the  opportunity  to  go  first. 

2  She's  wonderful.   She'll  serve  the  state  well,  and 

3  doggone  it,  these  days  we  need  everybody's  best  efforts. 

4  So  I  wholeheartedly  support  her. 

5  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Thank  you  very  much,  sir, 

6  for  coming. 

7  Next. 

8  MR.  HASSOUN:    Good  afternoon,  Senator,  and 

9  honorable  Senate  Members.    I'm  here  in  support  of 

10  Undersecretary  Mary  Fernandez.    My  name  is  Sam  Hassoun. 

11  I'm  here  representing  the  Association  of  Contractors  of 

12  California,  ACC.   It's  a  trades  association  that  has 

13  over  1500  heavy  construction  members  throughout  the 

14  state. 

15  My  knowledge  of  Ms.  Fernandez  spans  well  over 

16  15  years.    When  I  worked  at  Caltrans,  I  worked  in  the 

17  director's  office,  and  I  was  in  charge  of  implementing  a 

18  program  and  innovation  during  the  Volkman 

19  administration,  and  Jim  Valvolis  (phonetic)  was  the 

20  director  at  the  time. 

21  The  charge  was  for  Ms.  Fernandez  to  rally  all 

22  the  state  agencies  and  to  march  in  the  direction  of  cost 

23  cutting,  innovation,  and  work-improved  bureaucracies  to 

24  actually  eliminate  waste  and  cost.   That  was  a  tall 

25  order. 

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1  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you  very  much. 

2  MR.  TOPPIN:    Mr.  Chairman  and  Members,  Ted 

3  Toppin,  for  the  Professional  Engineers  in  California 

4  Government  and  the  California  Association  of 

5  Professional  Scientists,  in  strong  support  for 

6  confirmation. 

7  PECG  and  CAPS  have  worked  with  Ms.  Fernandez 

8  many  times  over  the  years,  inside  and  outside  of 

9  government.    Most  recently  she  is  a  member  of  the  board 

10  of  the  CAPS  and  PECG's  Sacramento  Science  and 

11  Engineering  Fair,  spends  countless  hours  creating  the 

12  next  generation  of  scientists  and  engineers.   She's 

13  smart,  hard  working,  creative,  and  an  asset  to  any 

14  organization  she  works  in,  and  Corrections  is  lucky  to 

15  have  her.   Thank  you. 

16  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Very  good.   Thank  you  very 

17  much. 

18  Welcome. 

19  MR.  WOONACOTT:    Good  afternoon,  Mr.  Chair  and 

20  Members.    Richard  Woonacott,  W-o-o-n-a-c-o-t-t.    I 

21  believe  the  Committee  has  my  letter  in  its  file. 

22  I  just  wanted  to  be  here  in  person  to  lend  my 

23  support  to  an  individual  who  I  have  had  the  opportunity 

24  to  span  three  administrations  working  with,  as  well  as 

25  quite  a  bit  of  time  in  the  building.    She's  not  only  a 

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tremendous  colleague  but  also  a  tremendous  friend.   I 
just  wanted  to  be  here  to  support  her  confirmation. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you.    Sometimes 
people  come  up  and  testify  and  say  what's  on  the  script. 
Every  one  of  these  folks  —  you  can  tell  it's  heartfelt. 
Comes  across.   Very  good. 

Opposition.   This  will  probably  be  heartfelt 
too. 

MR.  WARREN:   Thank  you  for  the  thought. 

My  name  is  David  Warren.    I'm  appearing  today 
on  behalf  of  Taxpayers  for  Improving  Public  Safety. 
Under  ordinary  circumstances,  we  would  welcome  a  breath 
of  fresh  air  in  the  Department  of  Corrections,  but  as 
the  Chair  pointed  out  the  Department  of  Corrections  is 
in  a  horrific  state,  not  only  financially  but  with  labor 
problems,  problems  with  prison  overcrowding,  conflicts 
with  the  medical  receiver,  and  all  sorts  of  issues.   And 
we  would  hope  that  someone  with  more  experience  within 
the  department  currently  would  be  in  this  position. 

We  have  problems  right  now  at  institutions 
where  they  can't  find  a  can  of  oil  to  put  into  a  leaking 
transmission.   They  can't  --  We  can't  find  photocopy 
paper  or  ink  jet  cartridges  in  order  to  print  various 
documents  inside  the  prison.   We  need  someone  who  could 
call  up  someone  at  Ironwood  and  say,  "Where  are  the 

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aggressive  in  that  regard. 

MS.  FERNANDEZ:    Thank  you. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Senator  Dutton. 

SENATOR  DUTTON:    In  response  to  what  you  said, 
and  I  agree  100  percent  with  what  you  just  said.   It's 
been  my  experience,  too,  as  a  professional  facilities 
manager  and  somebody  who  has  dealt  with  operations,  but 
sometimes  a  new  broom  sweeps  clean,  so  it  may  be 
actually  to  our  benefit  right  now  to  have  somebody  who 
is  not  so  directly  attached  to  the  status  quo  or  what's 
going  on,  because  maybe  you  need  to  have  somebody  who 
says,  "Okay.   How  do  I  —  I  need  more  paperclips."  You 
want  somebody  to  ask  those  questions  now.   I  think 
that's  probably  been  part  of  the  problem,  maintaining 
the  status  quo.   So  I  just  --  anyway,  I  think  this 
individual  --   I  just  renew  my  motion,  but  I  think  she's 
got  the  capacity  to  do  the  job,  so  I'm  pleased  to 
support  her. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Very  good.    Please  call 


the  roll. 


MS.  BROWN:    Senator  Cedillo. 

Dutton. 

SENATOR  DUTTON:    Aye. 

MS.  BROWN:    Dutton  aye. 

Oropeza. 


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paperclips?   Why  aren't  they  out  here?"  someone  who 
could  call  someone  at  Pelican  Bay  and  say,  "You're  in 
charge  of  this.   Why  isn't  this  done?" 

This  requires  experience  and  contacts  within 
the  institutions,  and,  regretfully,  it's  been  over  a 
decade  since  the  nominee  has  worked  with  the  Department 
of  Corrections.   And  for  this  reason  and  this  reason 
alone,  under  the  current  circumstance,  if  some  things 
were  different,  we  would  be  supportive,  but  today  we 
have  to  oppose  the  nominee.   Thank  you. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Fair  enough.   All  right. 

Other  witnesses  in  opposition? 

All  right.   I'm  prepared  to  support  the 
nominee,  and  I  do  hope,  though,  that  you  take  —  I 
forgot  who  said  it  a  few  minutes  ago,  one  of  the 
witnesses  --  that  you  take  it  on  yourself  in  this 
position  to  rattle  the  cages  and  to  be  very  aggressive. 

You  seem  to  have  a  quiet  but  very  effective 
style  in  getting  done  what  needs  to  be  done.    I  would 
just  hope  that  you  go  into  this  position  essentially 
with  the  same  sense  that  we  have  that  across  government, 
certainly,  including  the  legislative  branch  of 
government,  and  including  the  Department  of  Corrections, 
change  is  the  order  of  the  day,  and  you're  in  a  position 
to  help  make  it  happen.   So  I  encourage  you  to  be 

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2  SENATOR  AANESTAD:    Aye. 

3  MS.  BROWN:    Aanestad  aye. 

4  Steinberg. 

5  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Aye. 

6  MS.  BROWN:    Steinberg  aye 

7  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    It's  three  to  nothing. 

8  We'll  leave  the  roll  open  for  Senator  Cedillo,  who  I 

9  believe  is  in  another  committee  right  now. 

10  Your  nomination  will  pass  the  Rules  Committee 

11  and  head  to  the  floor  of  the  Senate. 

12  MS.  FERNANDEZ:   Thank  you  very  much. 

13  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Congratulations.   Thank 

14  you. 

15  (Applause.) 

16  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Very  good.   All  right. 

17  Let's  move  on  to  Stephen  L.  Edinger  as  a  member  of  the 

18  oil  response  --  excuse  me  --  member  of  the  OSRP  and  -- 

19  MR.  EDINGER:    I'll  clarify  it. 

20  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Clarify.    Straighten  me 

21  out,  will  you,  please. 

22  MR.  EDINGER:    I  will. 

23  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Welcome.    Please  feel  free 

24  to  introduce  any  member  of  your  family  or  close  friend, 

25  guest,  in  the  audience. 

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1  MR.  EDINGER:    If  I  might,  I  would  like  to 

2  introduce  my  family.    My  lovely  wife  of  25  years,  Terry; 

3  my  three  beautiful  kids,  Zachary,  Chelsea,  and 

4  Mackenzie,  who  are  more  than  happy  to  be  here,  I  think. 

5  I  hope  so,  anyway. 

6  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Welcome  to  all  of  you. 

7  Get  involved.   Get  involved.   All  right. 

8  MR.  EDINGER:    If  I  might  make  a  brief  opening 

9  statement. 

10  President  Pro  Tern  Steinberg  and  Members  of  the 

11  Committee,  it  is  a  distinct  honor  and  privilege  to 

12  appear  before  you  today.   I  am  honored  that  Governor 

13  Schwarzenegger  has  placed  his  trust  and  confidence  in  me 

14  by  appointing  me  to  the  position  of  administrator  of  the 

15  Department  of  Fish  and  Game's  Office  of  Spill  Prevention 

16  and  Response.    I  wish  to  thank  you,  President  Pro  Tern 

17  Steinberg  and  the  Members  of  the  Committee,  for  holding 

18  this  hearing  to  consider  my  appointment. 

19  If  confirmed,  you  have  my  commitment  that  I 

20  will  work  hard  to  maintain  the  confidence  and  trust  that 

21  the  governor  and  you  have  shown  in  me  to  protect 

22  California's  wildlife. 

23  I'm  very  proud  to  be  sitting  in  this  chair, 

24  seeking  this  confirmation  as  administrator  of  OSPR.    My 

25  appointment  is  a  reflection  of  my  years  of  hard  work  in 

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1  have. 

2  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Thank  you. 

3  You  are  the  third  administrator  now  in  four 

4  years  for  the  agency,  correct. 

5  MR.  EDINGER:    (Nods  head.) 

6  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    And  of  course  the  incident 

7  that  the  public  and  the  Legislature  focused  on  preceding 

8  your  tenure  was  the  Cosco  Busan  incident  which,  of 

9  course,  received  wide  coverage.   And  you  say  in  your 

10  written  response  that  you  view  the  agency  as  the 

11  premier  response  organization  when  it  comes  to  oil 

12  spills,  and  yet  you  also  say  external  and  internal 

13  reviews  identify  the  need  for  enhanced  efforts  by  OSPR 

14  to  increase  local  government  and  volunteer 

15  participation,  address  fisheries  closures,  shorten 

16  response  times,  increase  wildlife  recovery  efforts,  and 

17  increase  drill  participation  and  oversight. 

18  We  also  know  that  at  the  time  of  the  incident, 

19  that  your  office,  and,  again,  you  weren't  the 

20  administrator,  but  I'm  leading  to  the  question  here, 

21  that  your  office  could  not  get  to  within  one  mile  -- 

22  they  were  within  one  mile  of  the  spill.   They  couldn't 

23  get  to  the  spill  for  two  hours  and  20  minutes,  because 

24  there  was  not  a  boat  to  take  them. 

25  So  I  guess  the  question  that  lingers  here  is: 

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1  protecting  California's  systems,  environment,  and 

2  wildlife.    More  importantly,  I'm  proud  to  represent  the 

3  dedicated  professional  men  and  women  of  the  Office  of 

4  Spill  Prevention  and  Response. 

5  OSPR  is  an  exceptional  organization  within  the 

6  Department  of  Fish  and  Game  staffed  by  individuals  who 

7  truly  believe  in  what  they  do.   I  sit  here  today  humbled 

8  to  know  that  I  have  their  full  support  as  administrator. 

9  If  I'm  confirmed,  I  pledge  to  continue  efforts 

10  to  improve  California's  protection  of  wildlife  habitat 

11  from  the  devastating  effects  of  oil  spills.   These 

12  efforts  initiated  during  my  tenure  include  increased 

13  outreach  to  and  participation  by  local  government, 

14  adoption  and  implementation  of  a  new  volunteer  plan  to 

15  address  convergent  oil  spill  volunteers,  evaluation  and 

16  adoption  of  new  technologies  to  meet  the  statutorily 

17  mandated  best  achievable  protection  standard,  expand  and 

18  improve  wildlife  recovery  and  transport  through 

19  development  and  delivery  of  wildlife  response  training 

20  to  volunteers,  and  updating  the  California  oil  spill 

21  contingency  plan.   These  initiatives,  when  complete, 

22  should  pay  dividends  for  years  to  come,  strengthening 

23  California's  environmental  protection. 

24  Again,  thank  you  for  your  consideration  today, 

25  and  I  look  forward  to  addressing  any  questions  you  may 

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1  Since  this  incident,  its  wide  coverage,  the  oversight 

2  hearing  that  the  Legislature  held,  is  it  different? 

3  And,  if  so,  how  is  it  different,  and  what  have  you  done 

4  to  make  it  different? 

5  MR.  EDINGER:    Senator,  outstanding  question, 

6  because  the  Cosco  Busan  was  somewhat  of  an  eye-openi~~ 

7  event  for  our  office.   It  was  a  response  that  actually 

8  went  very  well,  if  you  look  at  the  amount  of  oil  that 

9  was  picked  up.   The  collection  of  oil  on  the  water  was 

10  about  43  percent,  which,  when  you  compare  that  to  an 

11  industry  standard  of  about  10  percent,  we  did  very  well. 

12  But  we  did  learn  many  things  during  that 

13  response.   This  was  the  first  time  that  we  had 

14  convergent  volunteers  who  wanted  to  clean  up  oil  spills, 

15  who  wanted  to  clean  up  oil  themselves.   We've  always  had 

16  people  that  wanted  to  clean  up  wildlife  or  protect 

17  wildlife,  but  we  have  never  had  people  who  want  to  clean 

18  up  the  beaches  themselves.   We  never  had  this  level  of 

19  participation  by  the  local  government,  or  the  desire. 

20  But  we've  taken  all  of  that  to  heart  and  made  many 

21  changes. 

22  During  the  Cosco  Busan,  I  was  actually 

23  initially  assigned  to  the  department's  operations 

24  center,  and  I  said  that's  not  good  enough,  and  I  went 

25  down  to  San  Francisco  and  took  over  as  the  state 

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on-the-scene  coordinator.   And  I  stayed  in  that  position 
for  three  weeks  to  make  sure  that  this  went  well. 

Since  the  Cosco  Busan,  we  have  had  many 
changes.   We've  had  much  more  local  participation.   As 
an  example,  we  just  had  a  drill  in  the  Port  of  Richmond 
a  couple  weeks  ago  where  we  had  local  participants.   We 
had  six  different  agencies,  local  agencies,  where  they 
actually  participated.   We  were  able  to  take  somebody 
from  local  government  and  put  them  in  the  unified 
command  so  they  were  helping  to  make  decisions.   We  have 
implemented  a  new  volunteer  plan  to  handle  convergent 
volunteers.   We  have  made  many  changes. 

Once  again,  I  think  it's  a  proud  organization 
that  has  done  well;  but  any  time  we  have  a  spill  of  this 
significance,  we  are  going  to  learn  things,  and  we  will 
make  those  changes. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Let's  just  take  a  couple 
of  the  issues. 

Are  you  working  on  consolidating  authority  for 
pipeline  regulation  where  apparently  your  office  and  the 
state  fire  marshal  seem  to  share  authority  over  the 
state  of  pipes? 

MR.  EDINGER:  The  state  fire  marshal's  office 
does  regulate  pipelines.  That's  not  something  that  we 
do.   We  have  jurisdiction  and  control  if  there  is  a 

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1  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Questions,  Members. 

2  Witnesses  in  support? 

3  Mr.  Toppin. 

4  MR.  TOPPIN:    Busy  day  in  Rules  Committee. 

5  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    There's  a  rule  here.   You 

6  only  get  to  testify  once  for  the  Committee. 

7  MR.  TOPPIN:   Ted  Toppin  for  the  California 

8  Association  of  Professional  Scientists  in  strong  support 

9  of  Mr.  Edinger's  confirmation. 

10  CAPS  represents  about  500  state  scientists  in 

11  the  Department  of  Fish  and  Game,  including  50-something 

12  at  the  Office  of  Spill  Prevention  and  Response.    My 

13  membership  and  leadership  was  impressed  with  his 

14  performance  during  Cosco  Busan  and  his  leadership  of  the 

15  department  since,  and  strongly  supports  confirmation. 

16  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you,  sir. 

17  MR.  KARNOW:    Good  afternoon.   Jerry  Karnow  with 

18  the  California  Fish  and  Game  Wardens'  Association.   We 

19  strongly  support  Steve  Edinger  for  this.   We  believe 

20  he's  an  excellent  candidate  for  this  position.    He  has 

21  unique  ability  to  --  and  knowledge  to  respond  to  oil 

22  spills.    He  has  overseen  lots  of  oil  spills  and  those 

23  situations. 

24  One  thing  that  --  President  Pro  Tern  Steinberg 

25  you  brought  up  the  fact  as  far  as  the  department  having 

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spill.   Certainly,  we  work  with  the  state  fire  marshal's 
office.    We  work  with  DOGR  and  other  agencies  to  make 
sure  that  there  aren't  spills,  but  right  now  there  is  no 
initiative  for  OSPR  to  take  over  regulation  of 
pipelines. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    If  there  were,  you  know, 
God  forbid  there'd  be  another  Cosco  Busan  that  would 
occur,  are  you  confident  that  your  office  would  be  able 
to  respond  more  quickly  than  what  occurred  when  that 
incident  took  place? 

MR.  EDINGER:    Absolutely.    I  think  one  of  the 
failures  that  I  looked  at  --  and,  as  I  said,  the  room 
for  improvement  --  was  the  lack  of  getting  in  front  of 
the  story,  the  ability  to  get  out  the  information  that 
the  public  wants,  that  the  public  demands.   We've 
changed  that.   We've  put  together  a  Web  site  modeled  on 
other  emergency  response  organizations  to  push  that 
information  out,  to  get  out  in  front  of  the  story. 

If  something  were  to  go  on  in  the  Bay  Area,  you 
talked  a  little  bit  about  us  not  having  a  vessel 
available.   That  was  a  problem  that  we  had.    We  were  in 
the  process  of  purchasing  the  vessel,  but  it  hadn't  gone 
to  rebid.   That  vessel  is  now  on  the  water.    It  is  an 
all-weather  vessel  that  is  ready  to  go,  should  this 
occur. 

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1  a  better  response  to  oil  spills,  there  are  going  to  be 

2  more  oil  spills  like  Cosco  Busan,  and  Steve  Edinger,  he 

3  knows  that.   One  of  the  --  Of  course  you  guys  know  about 

4  the  crisis  about  the  shortage  of  Fish  and  Game  wardens. 

5  The  wardens,  whether  inland  or  also  marine  and  OSPR,  the 

6  enforcement  officers  are  the  ones  that  generally  respond 

7  to  these  initial  attacks,  if  you  may,  and  also  some  of 

8  our  patrol  boats,  which  are  state-of-the-art,  a  lot  of 

9  times  they're  more  at  port  than  they  are  at  sea. 

10  So  once  we  get  that  figured  out  and  --  I  think 

11  Steve's  job  is  going  to  be  easier.   And  the  fact  that  he 

12  understands  the  ability  to  do  with  what  he  has,  I  think 

13  he  has  that  in  his  background. 

14  But  the  Wardens'  Association  supports  him  and 

15  hope  you  do  the  same.   Thank  you. 

16  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Thank  you. 

17  MR.  OSBORN:    Good  afternoon,  Mr.  Chairman  and 

18  Members.    My  name  is  George  Osborn.    I  represent 

19  Advanced  Cleanup  Technologies,  Incorporated.    My  client 

20  is  an  oil  spill  response  organization  that  responded  to 

21  the  Cosco  Busan  oil  spill  in  San  Francisco  Bay  and  had 

22  the  opportunity  to  work  under  the  direction  of 

23  Mr.  Edinger.   They  speak  very  highly  of  him.   They  have 

24  had  an  opportunity  to  observe  his  work  as  administrator 

25  since  he  was  appointed,  and  we  strongly  support  his 

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1 

confirmation.   Thank  you  very  much. 

1 

Rehabilitation. 

2 

MR.  ARNOLD:   Good  afternoon.    My  name  is  Brian 

2 

Please  open  the  roll. 

3 

Arnold.   I'm  here  today  representing  the  California  Fish 

3 

MS.  BROWN:   Senator  Cedillo. 

4 

and  Game  Wardens,  Supervisors  and  Managers  Association. 

4 

SENATOR  CEDILLO:    Cedillo  aye. 

5 

Our  association  wishes  to  support  Mr.  Edinger 

5 

MS.  BROWN:    Cedillo  aye. 

6 

for  appointment  to  the  position  of  administrator  of  the 

6 

Oropeza. 

7 

Department  of  Fish  and  Game's  Office  of  Spill  Prevention 

7 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Four  to  nothing.   That  is 

8 

and  Response. 

8 

out.   Appreciate  it. 

9 

Over  the  last  12  years,  our  members  have 

9 

Let  me  welcome  Tarn  M.  Doduc  —  am  I  pronouncing 

10 

witnessed  Mr.  Edinger's  professionalism  and  attention  to 

10 

it  correctly  —  and  Francis  S.  Weber  —  Spivy  Weber  — 

11 

detail.    Mr.  Edinger  has  a  proven  track  record  as  an 

11 

Spivy  Weber,  as  members  of  the  State  Water  Resources 

12 

emergency  responder,  emergency  manager,  and  a  law 

12 

Control  Board.   Why  don't  we  take  both  nominees  at  the 

13 

enforcement  commander. 

13 

same  time. 

14 

Our  association  supports  Mr.  Steve  Edinger  for 

14 

Welcome  to  both  of  you.   Again,  I  want  to 

15 

appointment  to  this  position.   Thank  you  very  much. 

15 

extend  you  the  privilege  of  introducing  anybody  in  the 

16 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Very  good.   Are  there  any 

16 

audience  that  you  want  to  introduce. 

17 

witnesses  in  opposition  to  the  nominee?   If  not,  is 

17 

MS.  WEBER:    I  will  introduce  my  husband, 

18 

there  a  motion? 

18 

Michael  Weber,  who  is  right  there  (indicating). 

19 

SENATOR  AANESTAD:    So  moved. 

19 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Welcome,  sir. 

20 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Moved  by  Senator  Aanestad. 

20 

MS.  WEBER:   And  Art  Baggett  from  the  board  is 

21 

Pleased  to  support  your  nomination.   You  do 

21 

also  here. 

22 

have  the  benefit,  really,  of  looking  at  this  high- 

22 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Welcome,  Mr.  Baggett. 

23 

profile  incident,  and  it  seems  to  me  your  responsibility 

23 

MS.  WEBER:    I  invited  him  to  come  up  and  join 

24 

is  very  well  defined,  which  is  how  to  make  sure  that 

24 

us. 

25 

things  --  this  particular  agency  does  better  if  this 

31 

25 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Okay. 

33 

1 

ever  happens  again,  and  I  think  you're  definitely  up  to 

1 

MS.  DODUC:    Thank  you,  Senator.    I  don't  have 

2 

it. 

2 

any  family  members  here,  but  they  are  by  the  phone 

3 

MR.  EDINGER:    Thank  you. 

3 

eagerly  awaiting  a  call  from  me. 

4 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Please  call  the  roll. 

4 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Okay.    Very  good.   All 

5 

MS.  BROWN:    Senator  Cedillo. 

5 

right.    If  you  would  both  like  to  begin  with  brief 

6 

SENATOR  CEDILLO:    Cedillo  aye. 

6 

opening  statements,  we'll  then  ask  some  questions. 

7 

MS.  BROWN:   Cedillo  aye. 

7 

MS.  WEBER:    I'll  start. 

8 

Dutton. 

8 

I  served  on  the  water  board  for  just  over  two 

9 

SENATOR  DUTTON:    Aye. 

9 

years,  and  during  that  time,  as  you  are  probably  aware, 

10 

MS.  BROWN:    Dutton  aye. 

10 

we've  had  funding  cuts,  reductions  in  staff,  and,  most 

11 

Oropeza. 

11 

recently,  furloughs,  yet  the  state  water  board  has  many 

12 

Aanestad. 

12 

successes  that  I  and  my  colleagues  are  building  on. 

13 

SENATOR  AANESTAD:    Aye. 

13 

During  my  tenure,  we  have  completed  nine 

14 

MS.  BROWN:    Aanestad  aye. 

14 

statewide  policies  and  permits.   We  expect  to  complete 

15 

Steinberg. 

15 

ten  more  by  the  end  of  the  year  and  eight  more  next 

16 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Aye. 

16 

year,  totaling  27.   Some  of  these  policies  include 

17 

MS.  BROWN:    Steinberg  aye. 

17 

recycled  water  once-through  cooling,  storm  water 

18 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Four  to  nothing.   That 

18 

construction  permit  enforcement,  and  the  ocean  plan. 

19 

will  move  to  the  floor.   Congratulations. 

19 

Our  multi-pronged  Bay-Delta  strategy  adopted 

20 

MR.  EDINGER:    Thank  you  very  much. 

20 

last  summer  is  on  track.   We're  starting  this  year  with 

21 

(Applause.) 

21 

work  on  the  San  Joaquin  River  flows  and  the  salinity 

22 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Let's  go  back  to 

22 

issues,  and  next  year  we'll  take  up  Bay-Delta  water 

23 

Ms.  Fernandez  and  open  the  roll  for  Senator  Cedillo. 

23 

quality  planning  that  will  go  into  2011. 

24 

It's  a  three-to-nothing  vote  for  Mary  S.  Fernandez  as 

24 

We  have  a  new  office  of  enforcement,  and  last 

25 

the  undersecretary  for  the  Department  of  Corrections  and 

25 

year  we  reduced  the  14,000  mandatory  minimum  penalty 

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violations  by  93  percent.   This  year  we  have  adopted  -- 
or  are  working  on  and  will  adopt  --  a  statewide  approach 
to  setting  penalties  and  have  developed  a  policy  on  how 
to  spend  money,  plus  we're  establishing  enforcement 
performance  standards. 

We're  interested  in  and  are  investing  in 
easy-to-use,  Web-based  information  for  the  public  to 
make  the  water  board  issues  more  accessible.   We  now 
have  a  Web-based  access  for  enforcement  issues,  for 
ocean  areas  of  special  biological  significance,  for 
sanitary  sewer  overflows,  water  rights,  water  quality. 
We're  going  to  soon  have  the  water  quality  monitoring 
council's  Web  portal  up,  answering  questions  like:    Is 
the  water  safe  to  drink?  Are  the  fish  safe  to  eat?   Can 
you  swim? 

We  got  $270  million  of  stimulus  money  in 
May,  and  as  of  this  week  we  have  about  a  hundred  million 
dollars  that  is  out  on  the  street,  and  72  million  of  the 
hundred  million  has  gone  to  urban  areas,  24  million  to 
rural  areas,  and  28  million  to  disadvantaged 
communities. 

We're  working  on  TMDLs,  and  I  can  go  into  that 
more  if  you  have  questions,  and  we've  been  working  on 
water  rights  in  a  significant  way.    We  have  reduced  the 
pending  applications  for  water  rights  35  percent  even 

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1  duties  to  the  best  of  my  abilities,  always  keeping  in 

2  mind  how  vital  water  is  to  our  state's  present,  our 

3  state's  economy,  and  our  state's  future. 

4  Thank  you  for  this  opportunity,  and  I  look 

5  forward  to  having  this  discussion. 

6  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Very  good.   I  have  a  few 

7  questions,  but  I  don't  always  have  to  go  first.   Any 

8  Member  want  to  —  okay.   I  guess  I  am  going  first. 

9  One  of  the  things  we're  interested  in,  as  we 

10  talk  to  nominees  in  various  parts  of  state  government, 

11  is  how  and  whether  you  view  yourself  as  a  change  agent 

12  or  essentially  an  administrator  of  the  existing  law. 

13  And  it  is,  I  think,  important  in  this  area  as  well, 

14  because  when  I  look  at  the  organization  here,  you  have 

15  nine  regional  water  boards  plus  —  of  nine  members 

16  apiece,  plus  the  five  state  members.   You've  got  86 

17  people,  ten  different  entities  in  charge  of  water 

18  quality  here  in  California.   The  Little  Hoover 

19  Commission  essentially  said  this  is  a  system  that  has 

20  lost  the  confidence  of  most  of  the  stakeholders. 

21  So  what  is  your  view  on  reorganization, 

22  consolidation,  and  if  you  believe  that's  necessary,  what 

23  are  you  doing  in  your  public  role  to  promote  it  and  move 

24  it  forward? 

25  MS.  WEBER:    I'll  let  Tarn  go  first,  because  she 

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with  the  staff  reduction  of  30  percent.   We  got  a  Yuba 
agreement  this  year  which  opened  up  --  ended  22  years  of 
litigation  and  opened  up  260,000  acre  feet  of  water  in 
dry  years  and  574,000  acre  feet  of  water  in  wet  years. 
We  terminated  permits  for  the  Auburn  Dam,  and  we  have 
reduced  paper  water  by  a  million  acre  feet  by  moving  the 
Nevada  Irrigation  District  from  a  permit  to  a  license. 
So  these  are  successes  on  which  we  are  and  will  build. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you  very  much. 

MS.  DODUC:    Thank  you  Senator,  Members. 
Thank  you  for  your  time  today.   I  recognize  how  valuable 
it  is,  so  I'm  going  to  keep  my  comments  very  short. 

As  a  member  of  the  state  water  board  now  for 
four  years,  I  take  very  seriously  the  charge  that  we 
have  to  protect  all  beneficial  interests  and  to  allocate 
our  precious  water  resource,  balancing  all  the  various 
competing  needs  and  demands. 

I  am  very  proud  of  the  work  the  board  has  done 
in  the  last  four  years,  of  which  Ms.  Spivy  already  has 
mentioned,  but  I  also  recognize  that  there  is  a  lot  that 
still  needs  to  be  done  that  must  be  done  with  urgency 
but  also  with  deliberation  in  order  to  solve  and  address 
our  state's  tremendous  water  quality  and  water  supply 
problems. 

So  I  commit  to  doing  so  and  to  discharging  my 

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1  worked  very  hard  on  this  last  year,  and  I  am  sure  we're 

2  on  the  same  track. 

3  MS.  DODUC:    Thank  you,  Fran. 

4  Thank  you,  Senator,  for  that  question,  and  my 

5  answer  most  definitely  is  I  see  us  as  a  change  agent. 

6  Having  said  that,  I  will  tell  you  after  the  experience 

7  of  the  past  four  years,  change  is  very  hard,  very,  very 

8  hard,  especially,  as  you  mentioned,  for  an  organization 

9  that's  been  around  for  almost  40  years  which  is  so 

10  diverse  and  so  broad,  and  after  that  we  actually  do 

11  share  our  water  responsibility  with  a  myriad  of  other 

12  agencies  throughout  the  state. 

13  That  having  been  said,  we  did  spend  —  the 

14  regional  board  chairs  and  I  last  year,  along  with  my 

15  colleagues  on  the  state  water  board  and  our  staff,  spent 

16  a  significant  amount  of  time  last  year  putting  together 

17  a  legislative  proposal  in  response  to  then  Senator 

18  Perata's  --  I  believe  it  was  Senate  Bill  1176  which 

19  proposed  some  reorganization  to  the  water  board 

20  structure.   And  the  proposal  that  the  water  boards  put 

21  together,  we  did  share  with  your  staff.    We  also  put  it 

22  on  our  Web  site.    And  it  proposes  many,  in  my  opinion, 

23  important  and  necessary  changes,  both  addressing  the  10 

24  percent  conflict  rule,  which  has  stymied  appointments  to 

25  the  board,  to  looking  at  how  we  can  make  more  efficient 

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the  TMDL  approval  process,  to  how  we  can  strengthen  our 
enforcement  abilities,  to  yet  looking  at  reducing  the 
numbers  of  board  members  on  the  regional  water  board, 
and  also  looking  at  what  I  would  view  as  ensuring  more 
accountability  to  the  regional  water  board  and  state 
board  system  by  institutionalizing  performance  measure 
and  metrics.   And  then  my  hope  is  that  there's  still 
interest  in  such. 

And  I'm  very  glad  to  hear  you  ask  that 
question,  because  I  do  hope  there  is  still  an  interest 
in  making  those  changes  and  that  we  could  explore  those 
possibilities  further. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Thank  you.  That's  fine. 

MS.  WEBER:   I'll  just  add  that  so  far,  no  one 
has  really  taken  up  our  suggestions  and  moved  with  them, 
so  we  are  actively  looking  for  --  it's  not  too  late,  and 
we're  actively  looking  for  support  now  or  in  the  future. 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Let  me  ask  you  about  this 
TMDL  development,  which,  as  I  understand  it,  is  the  work 
you  are  supposed  to  do  to  essentially  put  forward  a  plan 
to  rectify  bodies  of  water  that  are  considered  seriously 
impaired. 

As  I  understand  it,  you've  identified  1,900  of 
these  TMDLs  -- 

MS.  WEBER:   Total  maximum  daily  load. 

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1  which  it  will  not  be  easy,  and  it  will  have  to  be 

2  adopted  by  the  boards,  we'll  —  may  be  moving  to 

3  dry-weather  bacteria,  another  very,  very  large  area,  and 

4  suites  of  pesticides,  pulling  several  pesticides 

5  together  in  a  suite  and  addressing  those.   So  that's  the 

6  plan. 

7  As  I  said,  the  focus  right  now  is  on  trash,  and 

8  that  will  be  —  we're  going  to  be  really  experimenting 

9  and  learning  from  that  one  at  the  statewide  approach 

10  rather  than  letting  the  regional  boards  do  their  own 

11  thing. 

12  MS.  DODUC:   If  I  might  add  to  that,  the  other 

13  area  where  we've  asked  our  director,  Dorothy  Rice,  to 

14  look  into  is  streamlining  the  state  water  board's 

15  process  on  TMDLs.   It's  been  absolutely  confounding  to 

16  me  that  when  a  regional  water  board  approves  a  TMDL,  it 

17  sometimes  takes  a  year  to  a  year  and  a  half  before  that 

18  TMDL  is  then  brought  to  the  state  board  for  approval. 

19  Again,  once  we  approve  it,  it  must  be  approved  by  the 

20  Office  of  Administrative  Law  and  the  U.S.  EPA.   And  in 

21  some  instances,  the  TMDL  approved  by  regional  boards 

22  were  done  so  without  controversy  or  opposition,  so  we 

23  are  certainly  looking  at  streamlining  our  own  internal 

24  process  at  the  state  level  to  quickly  move  the  TMDLs 

25  along  and  remove  that  unnecessary  delay  for  state  board 

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1  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    --  maximum  daily  load  that 

2  encompass  about  500  seriously  impaired  bodies  of  water, 

3  and  that  only  10  percent  have  actually  been  adopted  to 

4  begin,  I  guess,  what  is  the  cleanup  of  these  waters. 

5  Seems  like  a  very  low  percentage.   Is  it  accurate,  and, 

6  if  so,  what's  the  reason  for  it? 

7  MS.  WEBER:    Well,  actually,  the  regional 

8  boards,  the  nine  regional  boards,  do  most  of  the  work  on 

9  TMDLs.   They  have  actually  addressed  about  34  percent  of 

10  the  listed  water  bodies,  but  the  gap  is  still  quite 

11  large.    It's  not  1900.    It's  about  almost  1500,  1483. 

12  So  what  we're  doing  now  at  the  state  level  is 

13  working  with  U.S.  EPA  —  they  have  a  consultant, 

14  Tetra  Tec  —  and  then  with  some  of  the  regional  boards 

15  that  are  particularly  good  at  doing  TMDLs,  and  are 

16  devising  some  templates  and  some  bundling  so  we  can 

17  start  to  get  that  number  down  from  1500  to  a  much  more 

18  acceptable  number. 

19  The  first  focus  that  we  have  is  on  trash.   That 

20  is  in  the  works  right  now.   There  are  37  listings  that 

21  would  be  affected  by  the  trash  TMDL,  but  we  think  that's 

22  going  to  be  a  big  one  for  future  listings,  so  if  we  can 

23  get  that  in  place,  it  will  at  least  keep  the  number  from 

24  going  up. 

25  And,  finally,  after  we  do  trash,  we  will  -- 

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1  oversight 

2  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    All  right.   Are  there 

3  questions  from  other  Members? 

4  Are  there  witnesses  in  support  of  the  nominees? 

5  SENATOR  AANESTAD:    I  have  one. 

6  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    I'm  sorry.   Go  on.    Go 

7  ahead,  Senator. 

8  SENATOR  AANESTAD:    First  of  all,  I  would  like 

9  to  say  I  would  have  liked  to  have  been  able  to  ask  more 

10  detailed  questions  in  a  one-on-one  interview,  but  that 

11  didn't  happen.   You  folks  apparently  weren't  interested 

12  in  setting  up  an  appointment  with  my  office,  so  I'm  -- 

13  I've  had  to  go  off  of  your  written  responses  to  some  of 

14  the  questions. 

15  Unfortunately,  the  questions  really  didn't 

16  cover  the  number  one  topic  that's  been  on  the  lips  of 

17  virtually  every  private  and  public  person  in  my  district 

18  concerning  the  water  board,  and  that's  your  septic  rule. 

19  I  know  that  the  state  water  board  has  said, 

20  "Hey,  that's  being  facilitated  by  the  regionals,"  and 

21  yet  you  folks  are  the  ones  who  are  directed  to  develop 

22  and  adopt  and  implement  the  statewide  regulations  for 

23  this,  recognizing  that  each  of  the  nine  regional  water 

24  boards  may  have  a  different  take  on  how  to  proceed. 

25  Certainly,  in  the  12  rural  counties  that  I 

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represent  where  septic  systems  are  a  way  of  life,  all  I 
can  tell  you  is  that  my  perception,  after  having  talked 
to  the  water  agencies,  the  public  officials,  and  private 
people,  is  that  whoever  wrote  it,  whoever  developed  and 
implemented  these  regulations,  knew  absolutely  nothing 
about  the  geography  of  the  north  state,  knew  absolutely 
nothing  about  the  economics  of  what  this  would  do  to  the 
private  homeowner  as  well  as  commercial  enterprises  and 
water  systems,  and  absolutely  had  no  feeling  for  the 
public  sentiment  before  you  went  ahead  and  passed  these 
rules  and  regulations. 

Now,  I  understand  you're  in  the  process  of 
redoing  everything,  which  absolutely  necessarily  needs 
to  be  done.   It  should  have  been  done  right  the  first 
time.   And  I  apologize  for  having  to  say  this,  but  I'm 
not  prepared  to  vote  for  your  nominations  today  simply 
based  on  the  way  the  4th  Senate  District  has  been 
treated  by  both  the  regional  and  the  state  water  board 
on  this  one  issue  over  the  last  two  years.   It  has 
caused  so  much  public  angst,  so  much  private  concern.    I 
have  heard  from  public  issues  probably  on  a  two-to-one 
basis  over  any  other  issue,  except  in  the  last  month  the 
budget  issue,  on  this  one  topic  where  people  --  and  I 
have  not  heard  one  good  thing  about  the  decisions  and 
regulations  coming  down  from  the  state  water  board  on 

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1  proposed  regulations,  and  the  board  members  who  attended 

2  all  the  workshops  took  very  seriously  those  concerns. 

3  We  have  directed  our  staff  --  I'm  not  sure  -- 

4  We  assigned  a  high-level  staff  to  work  with  the  mental 

5  health  directors,  to  work  with  other  stakeholders,  to  go 

6  over  the  public  comments  very  carefully  and  make  the 

7  necessary  changes  before,  once  again,  sending  out  a 

8  draft  for  review. 

9  So  it  is  indeed  a  very  complicated  set  of 

10  regulations.  They  are  still  in  its  very  early  draft 

11  form  for  which  we  are  seeking  input  and  working  with 

12  stakeholders  and  others,  at  least  our  staff  are,  in 

13  order  to  get  it  to  the  board. 

14  Let  me  also  apologize.   I  know  Frances  as  well 

15  directed  our  staff  to  contact  your  office  —  actually, 

16  the  offices  of  all  the  Committee  members  in  order  to 

17  schedule  meetings,  and  I  do  apologize  if  that  somehow 

18  was  not  done.   And  we  will  be  most  definitely  happy  and 

19  look  forward  to  having  the  one-on-one  conversation  with 

20  you. 

21  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    I  do  have  a  process 

22  concern  here,  and  that  is  I  know  Senator  Aanestad  is 

23  very  consistent  in  meeting  with  the  nominees  for  various 

24  commissions.   And  what  occurred?   Did  you  reach  out  to 

25  the  Senator? 

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this  issue. 

I  think  you  failed  the  people  in  my  12 
counties.   I'm  very  suspicious  of  what  the  rewrite  might 
look  like,  and  I  believe  that  we  need  to  probably  look 
at  the  issue  with  new  eyes  on  the  state  water  board. 

Thank  you. 

MS.  DODUC:    May  I  respond? 

CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Yes. 

MS.  DODUC:    Thank  you,  Senator  Aanestad. 

If  I  may  start  out  by  saying  that  these 
regulations  of  which  you  spoke  have  not  even  been 
considered  by  the  board.   They  are  draft  regulations 
that  our  staff  put  together,  and  as  part  of  our 
regulatory  process,  the  fact  proposal  is  going  to  be 
released.   The  board  then  conducts  hearings  and 
workshops,  solicits  comments,  and  then  gives  directives 
to  staff  in  terms  of  any  revisions  that  will  be  made. 
And  that's  where  we  were  and  we  are  with  respect  to 
those  regulations. 

And  I  had  the  pleasure,  the  opportunity  --  I'm 
not  sure  what  the  correct  word  is  --  of  attending,  as 
did  Ms.  Spivy-Weber,  many  of  the  public  workshops  that 
were  held.   In  particular,  I  participated  in  the  one  in 
Santa  Rosa  where  I  think  we  had  an  audience  of  well  over 
1500  speakers  who  shared  their  concerns  about  those 

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1  MS.  WEBER:    Yes,  but  -  Well,  Tarn  did,  and  I 

2  was  waiting  on  her.    She  was  going  to  set  things  up,  and 

3  her  staff  did  and  heard  nothing.   So  I  don't  know. 

4  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Not  true  from  your  end. 

5  Okay.    Let's  not  argue  the  past.   We  are 

6  missing  one  Member  today,  all  right?   Senator  Oropeza  is 

7  absent  today,  and  so  what  we're  going  to  do  is  put  the 

8  nominations  over  for  a  week,  and  I'm  going  to  ask  both 

9  of  you  to  please  make  a  point  and  schedule  it  now,  if 

10  you  can  facilitate  that,  to  meet  with  both  Senator 

11  Aanestad  and  Senator  Dutton,  to  have  a  lengthier 

12  conversation  about  the  issues  that  you  raised  and/or 

13  other  issues.   All  right. 

14  Let's  hear  from  any  witnesses  in  support  here 

15  today.   We'll  take  the  witnesses. 

16  MS.  CANTU:    Celeste  Cantu,  general  manager  of 

17  Santa  Ana  Watershed  Project  Authority,  SAWPA.   We  urge 

18  your  support.   Thank  you. 

19  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Thank  you  very  much. 

20  Mr.  Harris. 

21  MR.  HARRIS:    Mr.  Chairman,  Richard  Harris  on 

22  behalf  of  the  Water  Reuse  Association,  the  state's 

23  producers  and  end  users  of  recycled  water. 

24  Senator  Aanestad  raises  an  interesting 

25  question.   If  I  just  might  give  you  a  personal 

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1  experience  that  our  organization  had  with  the  board. 

2  We're  here  in  full  support  of  both  of  these  individuals 

3  and  their  leadership,  and  the  ability  —  and  I'm  not 

4  familiar  with  the  septic-tank  regulations  that  you're 

5  discussing,  but  the  process  that  you  described  is 

6  similar,  I  think,  to  what  I  was  living  when  we  were 

7  developing  the  recycled  water  policy  over  a  couple  years 

8  ago.   And  it  started  in  a  similar  sort  of  fashion  with 

9  information  that  was  out  there  to  our  organization  and 

10  to  the  stakeholders,  really  not  where  we  needed  to  go 

11  and  not  the  right  way  to  address  it.   And  through  their 

12  leadership  and  their  ability  to  understand  and  take 

13  their  dual  role  of  wanting  to  help  us  expand  our  state's 

14  water  supply,  as  well  as  to  protect  water  quality,  but 

15  understanding  there  were  problems  between  both,  they 

16  would  bring  that  together,  brought  us  together. 

17  We  established  a  stakeholder  process  and  had 

18  the  industry  as  well  as  the  environmental  community  and 

19  all  the  aqua  agencies,  and  came  up  with,  then,  a 

20  document  through  the  stakeholder  process  on  recycled 

21  water  and  recycled  water  policy  that  I  think  is  far  and 

22  away  one  of  the  best  in  the 

23  United  States  and  will  really  lead  to  more  increased  use 

24  of  recycled  water,  which  we  have  to  do.   It's  the 

25  state's  only  new  water  source. 

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1  E.F.  Hutton  in  her.   When  she  speaks,  people  do  listen. 

2  In  fact,  when  she's  speaking  at  a  water  policy  meeting, 

3  an  industry  conference,  whatever,  and  there's  a  bunch  of 

4  people  out  in  the  hall,  when  she  goes  up  to  the  podium, 

5  people  actually  come  in  and  sit  down  and  listen  to  what 

6  she  has  to  say,  and  I  think  that  speaks  greatly  to  her. 

7  So  the  California  Water  Association  supports  both. 

8  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:   Thank  you. 

9  Mr.  Dillon. 

10  MR.  DILLON:    Mr.  Chair  and  Members,  Mike  Dillon 

11  representing  the  California  Association  of  Sanitation 

12  Agencies,  all  the  major  wastewater  agencies  in  the 

13  state,  including  some  of  the  big  cities  like 

14  San  Francisco  and  Los  Angeles  and  San  Diego.   We  too 

15  would  recommend  reappointment  of  both  nominees. 

16  Ms.  Doduc  has  brought  a  lot  of  experience  to 

17  the  board,  and  we've  been  working  with  her  a  number  of 

18  years.    Our  folks  --  In  your  packet,  by  the  way,  is  a 

19  letter  from  Roberta  Larson.   She's  the  director  of  legal 

20  and  regulatory  affairs.    She  works  with  the  board 

21  members  and  the  staff  all  of  the  time,  and  she  has  great 

22  respect  for  both. 

23  Just  to  reiterate  what  Mr.  Harris  said,  every 

24  year,  including  this  year,  there's  a  number  of  bills 

25  urging  us  to  do  more  and  more  and  more  on  water 

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1  And  it  was  really  through  their  leadership  and 

2  their  ability  to  take  that  initial  document  information 

3  and  process  that  wasn't  right  and  then  turned  that  into 

4  something  that  became  a  real  win,  win,  win,  win,  win, 

5  for  everybody.    So  it's  a  little  bit  of  personal 

6  experience  with  them. 

7  But  as  you  have  your  one-on-one  with  them, 

8  which  I  am  sure  you  will  find  informative,  we  would 

9  appreciate  your  total  support  with  them  in  moving 

10  forward.   We  think  they've  done  a  great  job.   Thanks. 

11  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you. 

12  MR.  HAWKS:    Mr.  Chair  and  Members,  my  name  is 

13  Jack  Hawks.   I'm  the  executive  director  of  the 

14  California  Water  Association.   Our  members  are  water 

15  utilities  regulated  by  the  California  Public  Utilities 

16  Commission.   We're  here  in  strong  support  of  both  the 

17  nominees.    We  have  a  closer  working  relationship  with 

18  Ms.  Spivy-Weber,  so  I  wanted  to  say  a  few  words  on  her 

19  behalf. 

20  Number  one  is  that  she  has  great  strengths  in 

21  terms  of  facilitating  and  bringing  together  and  managing 

22  the  discussions  amongst  the  disparate  water  interests, 

23  which  we  all  know  there's  quite  a  few. 

24  Number  two,  and  Senator  Steinberg  asked  me  to 

25  speak  from  the  heart,  she's  got  a  little  bit  of 

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1  recycling,  and  so  the  effort  that  Ms.  Spivy-Weber  led  to 

2  bring  about  the  water  recycling  policy  for  California  is 

3  extremely  important.   So  we  would  recommend  their 

4  reappointment.   Thank  you. 

5  CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Thank  you. 

6  MS.  BYRNE:    Mr.  Chair  and  Members,  Barbara 

7  Byrne,  Planning  and  Conservation  League.   We're  also 

8  here  today  in  strong  support  of  both  nominees. 

9  I  would  like  to  second  what  Richard  Harris 

10  mentioned  about  the  process  that  brought  about  the 

11  recycled  water  policy  that  the  state  board  adopted  this 

12  February.   The  Planning  and  Conservation  was  also  part 

13  of  that  process,  initial  shock,  and  then  later 

14  happiness.    We  appreciate  their  work  with  recycled 

15  water,  the  topic  of  the  day.    Planning  and  Conservation 

16  here  is  also  a  sponsor  of  the  recycled  water  bill  and 

17  thanks  to,  particularly, 

18  Ms.  Spivy-Weber,  she  was  able  to  help  us  out  with  the 

19  technical  assistance  from  the  board's  staff.    We  also 

20  worked  with  Richard  Harris.    More  stakeholders  got  in, 

21  and  the  bill  is  much  stronger  now,  thanks  to  the  very 

22  practical  recommendations  that  the  board  was  able  to 

23  have.    So  we  urge  your  aye  vote  when  the  time  comes,  and 

24  we  hope  that  time  is  soon.   Thank  you. 

25  MR.  UNG:    Mr.  Chairman  and  Members  of  the 

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Committee,  Phillip  Ung  on  behalf  of  The  Nature 

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(Thereupon,  the  Senate  Rules  Committee  hearing 

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Conservancy  here  in  support  of  Ms.  Spivy-Weber.   No 

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adjourned  at  3:00  p.m.) 

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offense  to  Ms.  Doduc.   We  actually  just  don't  have  a 

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comment  for  her  other  than  -- 

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MS.  DODUC:    I'm  actually  a  member,  I  think. 

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CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Okay. 

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MS.  DODUC:    I'll  give  that  tote  back. 

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CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Are  there  any  witnesses  in 

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opposition? 

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All  right.   Again,  without  objection,  I  think 

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we'll  put  this  over  for  a  week.   And,  again,  I  would 

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encourage  you  to  get  together  with  both  Senator  Aanestad 

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and  Senator  Dutton  at  your  convenience.   Thank  you  both 

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very,  very  much.   Appreciate  it.   See  you  next  week  — 

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or  wait.   You  don't  need  to  reappear  next  week.   I  don't 

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think  you  do. 

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All  right.    I  want  to  move  through  the  rest  of 

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the  agenda.   As  I  understand  it,  Senators  Dutton  and 

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Aanestad,  the  issues  that  you  would  either  like  to 

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separate  or  put  over  are  2E  —  I'm  going  to  ask  that  we 

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1,  INA  C.  LeBLANC,  a  Certified  Shorthand 
Reporter  of  the  State  of  California,  do  hereby  certify 
that  I  am  a  disinterested  person  herein;  that  the 
foregoing  transcript  of  the  Senate  Rules  Committee 
hearing  was  reported  verbatim  in  shorthand  by  me, 

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Motion? 

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INA  C.  LeBLANC,  a  Certified  Shorthand  Reporter  of  the 

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SENATOR  DUTTON:    So  moved. 

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State  of  California,  and  thereafter  transcribed  into 

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CHAIRMAN  STEINBERG:    Moved  by  Senator  Dutton. 

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typewriting. 

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attorney  for  any  of  the  parties  to  said  hearing,  nor  in 

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MS.  BROWN:   Cedillo  aye. 

Dutton. 

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Senate  Confirmation  n 

Mary  S.  Fernandez  >0€%n$<e$ 

Undersecretary 
Responses  to  Senate  Rules  Committee  Questions      R^nut.  &  s     -, 

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June  11,  2009 

Statement  of  Goals 

Under  the  direction  of  the  Secretary,  the  undersecretary  of  Administration  directs  the 
administrative  functions  of  CDCR,  including  the  Division  of  Support  Services,  Facility 
Planning,  Construction  and  Management,  the  Corrections  Standards  Authority,  audits, 
internal  affairs,  research,  legal,  legislation,  civil  rights,  communications,  labor  relations, 
and  various  other  functions,  according  to  your  official  CDCR  job  description. 
The  department  now  has  two  other  undersecretaries  for  Operations  (parole  and 
custody)  and  Programs  (education  and  drug  treatment),  but  the  Program  position  is  not 
authorized  in  statute  and  therefore  not  confirmable. 

With  more  than  60,000  employees,  CDCR  is  the  largest  single  department  of  state 
government.  It  is  responsible  for  incarcerating  about  170,000  adults  in  33  institutions 
and  40  fire  camps  and  other  facilities,  and  1,800  juveniles  in  6  facilities  and  2  camps. 
The  department  manages  another  126,000  adult  parolees  and  approximately  3,000 
juvenile  parolees.  The  stated  mission  of  the  department  is  to  improve  public  safety 
through  evidence-based  crime  prevention  and  recidivism  reduction  strategies. 

1.  Please  provide  us  with  a  brief  statement  of  your  current  goals  as 
undersecretary,  including  the  guiding  principals  that  you  bring  to  the  job. 
What  do  you  hope  to  accomplish  during  your  tenure  as  undersecretary  of 
the  department?  What  is  the  timeline  for  meeting  your  goals?  How 
frequently  do  you  measure  progress? 

My  primary  guiding  principle  as  Undersecretary  of  Administration  is  to  ensure  that 
taxpayers'  dollars  are  spent  in  the  most  effective  way  possible  by  continuously 
improving  and  monitoring  all  processes  under  my  purview  while  ensuring  the  safety  of 
our  clients  and  staff.  In  addition,  I  ensure  that  staff  understand  their  role,  are  well 
trained  for  their  duties,  are  encouraged  to  improve  our  organization,  and  are  recognized 
for  their  contributions.  My  current  goals  as  undersecretary  include:  determining  which 
processes  are  working  and  which  need  improvement  in  specific  areas  -  budgets, 
accounting,  human  resources,  business  services,  information  technology,  facilities  and 
construction,  and  labor  relations.  This  includes  the  implementation  of  an  Enterprise 
Resource  Planning  software  system,  known  as  Business  Information  System  (BIS),  to 
move  these  functions  into  the  21st  century  with  automated  processes  and  systems.  I 
am  working  to  put  additional  metrics  in  place  for  these  functions  to  ensure  accountability 
for  the  Department's  resources  and  that  staff  are  meeting  CDCR's  administrative  needs. 
I  have  set  the  one-year  mark,  October  2009,  to  complete  the  improvement  initiatives  I 
currently  have  underway.  All  of  these  projects  have  charters  and  action  plans  that  I 
review  and  hold  status  meetings  with  Cabinet  on  a  monthly  basis.  As  I  complete  these 
projects,  I  will  move  on  to  other  areas  that  I  have  identified  as  needing  improvement. 


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2.  Much  of  your  career  was  spent  at  the  Department  of  Personnel 
Administration  and  the  State  Personnel  Board.  What  lessons  do  you  bring 
from  that  experience  that  you  can  apply  at  CDCR? 

I  bring  many  lessons  from  all  of  my  previous  jobs  including  the  Governor's  Office  for 
Innovation  in  Government,  Department  of  Personnel  Administration  (DPA),  State 
Personnel  Board  (SPB),  and  California  Teachers'  Retirement  System.  Specifically  from 
DPA  and  SPB,  I  bring  the  experience  of  implementing  change  for  a  large  organization  - 
all  of  state  government.  While  these  are  small  departments,  their  policies  and 
procedures  impact  every  state  employee.  For  example,  SPB  implemented  the  new  on- 
line Staff  Services  Analyst  examination,  replacing  the  in-person  written  examination. 
This  change  impacted  state  employees  and  the  general  public  interested  in  employment 
with  the  state.  We  used  good  change  management  practices  in  implementing  this 
initiative  by  working  in  partnership  with  the  unions,  state  departments,  colleges  and 
universities,  etc.  to  ensure  a  successful  rollout. 

The  most  important  lessons  I  bring  from  my  experiences  include:  developing  a  strategic 
plan  can  change  the  focus  of  an  organization  very  quickly;  project  charters,  action 
plans,  and  performance  metrics  ensure  improvement  initiatives  are  completed  timely 
and  effectively;  challenging  the  status  quo  is  a  good  thing  that  may  not  be  popular,  but  it 
is  necessary;  and  succession  planning  is  essential  to  ensure  knowledge  is  transferred 
as  leadership  changes. 

Reorganization  and  Coordination  of  Responsibilities 

On  July  1,  2005,  the  Youth  and  Adult  Correctional  Agency  was  reorganized  pursuant  to 
Senate  Bill  737  (Romero),  Chapter  10,  Statutes  of  2005,  into  CDCR.  The  intention  of 
the  reorganization  was  to  improve  the  effectiveness  and  efficiency  of  the  departments 
and  boards  that  made  up  the  former  Youth  and  Adult  Correctional  Agency.  Former 
Secretary  James  Tilton  said  that  when  he  assumed  office  he  realized  that  the  single 
undersecretary  position  had  20  senior  managers  reporting  to  it  and  that  "was  clearly  too 
wide  of  a  span  of  control  for  only  one  individual. "  So  he  created  your  position  and  later 
established  a  third  undersecretary  for  programs. 

3.  As  a  key  manager,  how  would  you  evaluate  CDCR  almost  four  years  after 
the  July  2005  reorganization  of  corrections?  If  the  reorganization's 
intention  was  to  improve  effectiveness  and  efficiency,  where  do  you  see 
significant  progress  and  where  does  the  most  work  still  need  to  be  done  in 
the  areas  you  administer?  Please  be  specific. 

My  experience  with  CDCR  dates  back  to  the  1980's  and  early  1990's  while  I  was 
employed  by  the  DPA.  The  biggest  improvement  I  see  is  in  the  Information  Technology 
(IT)  initiatives  and  in  the  Human  Resources  (HR)  initiatives.    IT  is  moving  forward  with 


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streamlining  and  automating  business  processes  with  the  BIS  project,  and  the  Strategic 
Offender  Management  System  (SOMS)  project  will  streamline  and  automate  inmate 
case  records.  CDCR  has  one  of  the  most  progressive  succession  plans  of  any  State 
department,  and  CDCR's  leadership  training  is  also  a  best  practice  for  the  State.  All 
areas  I  administer  need  improvement  in  their  processes  and  procedures.  I  anticipate 
the  new  BIS  will  eventually  improve  many  of  these  processes.  The  labor  relations 
function  has  struggled  in  recent  years,  but  in  partnership  with  DPA  appears  to  be 
stabilizing  its  processes.  The  facilities  and  construction  program  has  the  most 
experienced  project  staff  in  state  government.  This  program  has  been  finalizing  the 
current  construction  plans  and  recently  put  together  a  plan  to  manage,  in  a  cost 
effective  manner,  our  multiple  leases  across  the  state. 

4.  Based  on  the  department  organization  chart,  you  have  11  divisions  under 
your  control,  from  Human  Resources  to  Project  Construction  Management 
How  do  you  determine  the  effectiveness  of  your  managers?  Do  you  have 
specific  goals  for  each  manager?  How  do  you  measure  their  progress?  Do 
you  have  timetables  for  managers  to  meet  goals? 

As  noted  in  my  cover  memo,  the  organization  was  reorganized  prior  to  my 
appointment.  The  enclosed  organization  chart  delineates  the  administrative  operations 
for  which  I  am  now  responsible.  I  have  several  ways  of  measuring  the  effectiveness  of 
my  management  team.  Some  of  these  include:  attending  their  staff  meetings  on  a 
regular  basis;  walking  around  and  talking  with  working  level  staff  to  get  their  input; 
asking  for  staff  presentations  on  various  topics  and  projects;  reviewing  most  grievances 
and  complaints  and  addressing  the  findings  with  my  managers;  reiterating  my  open 
door  policy  to  ensure  staff  feel  comfortable  coming  to  me  on  important  and/or  sensitive 
issues;  reviewing  performance  metrics  that  are  available  for  workload  and  production; 
meeting  regularly  one-on-one  with  each  manager;  and  talking  with  customers  to  obtain 
feedback  on  my  management  team,  programs,  and  services. 

Additionally,  HR  has  developed  and  maintains  a  performance  management  system  that 
monitors  key  indicators,  which  include  measures  for  filling  vacancies  in  a  timely  manner, 
customer  service  satisfaction,  budget  performance,  training  satisfaction  and 
effectiveness,  processing  times  for  hiring  correctional  officers,  and  recruitment 
satisfaction.  The  HR  management  team  convenes  on  a  monthly  basis  to  report  on  their 
measures  and  creates  action  plans  to  ensure  improvement  is  achieved,  as  well  as 
discuss  limitations  and/or  obstacles  to  success  in  specific  areas.  This  system  assists 
me  in  measuring  the  overall  effectiveness  of  HR.  I  am  currently  working  on  developing 
a  performance  management  system  that  monitors  additional  key  indicators  for  my  other 
programs  using  CDCR's  Computer  Statistics  (COMPSTAT)  tool. 

Lastly,  in  collaboration  with  DPA  and  the  Human  Resources  Modernization  (HRMOD) 
project,  I  am  drafting  a  department-wide  proposal  to  establish  an  annual  performance 
evaluation  process.  As  part  of  the  evaluation  process,  managers  would  participate  in  an 


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assessment  and  establish  an  action  plan  in  alignment  with  CDCR's  strategic  plan  and 
the  developmental  areas  noted  in  the  assessment  instrument  and  supervisory  input. 
The  following  year  the  process  would  be  repeated  and  the  managers'  performance 
would  be  measured  on  their  ability  to  execute  their  plan.  After  which,  new  goals  would 
be  set  for  the  following  year.  This  would  be  a  pilot  with  the  HRMOD  and  eventually 
rolled  out  for  all  State  managers. 

Operational  Issues 

Last  year,  Mr.  Runnels,  then  undersecretary  for  Operations,  said  ongoing  operational 
issues  are  formally  monitored  through  the  COMPSTAT process.  He  said  COMPSTAT 
allowed  CDCR's  executive  team  to  review  adult,  juvenile  and  parole  operations  to 
identify  systemic  issues  that  need  to  be  addressed.  COMPSTAT  was  developed  by 
former  New  York  City  police  commissioner  William  Bratton,  now  Los  Angeles  chief  of 
police,  partly  to  hold  managers  accountable  for  their  performance  as  measured  by  these 
data.  In  New  York  and  Los  Angeles,  the  statistics  are  publicly  posted  on  the 
department  Web  sites  on  a  regular,  sometimes  weekly,  basis.  One  key  issue  highlighted 
by  COMPSTAT  is  the  cost  of  overtime.  Mr.  Cate  has  said  that  reducing  overtime,  as 
well  as  establishing  other  fiscal  controls,  is  one  of  his  top  priorities. 

5.  What  is  your  role  in  the  COMPSTAT  process?  Have  you  found  COMPSTAT 
to  be  an  effective  tool  to  hold  your  managers  accountable?  If  so,  please 
explain.  If  not,  why  not?  What  red  flags  do  you  look  for  on  a  regular 
basis? 

I  am  on  the  COMPSTAT  governance  committee  and  regularly  attend  COMPSTAT 
mission  specific  meetings.  In  this  role,  I  review  the  current  data  collected,  make 
decisions  on  which  performance  measures  to  change  or  update,  and  recommend  other 
areas  of  CDCR  that  need  to  report  key  performance  indicators.  COMPSTAT  plays  an 
integral  role  in  helping  CDCR  monitor  organizational  effectiveness  and  track 
performance  measures.  The  data  provided  by  COMPSTAT  allows  us  to  hold  managers 
and  directors  to  a  high  level  of  accountability  and,  at  the  same  time,  provides  them  with 
the  autonomy  and  authority  to  develop  their  own  performance  measures  to  accomplish 
their  goals. 

COMPSTAT  has  created  an  environment  in  which  managers  take  an  active  role  in 
monitoring  trends  and  analyzing  measures  critical  to  their  success  and  performance. 
This  process  has  reinforced  internal  accountability  between  Cabinet,  managers,  and 
staff.  On  a  regular  basis,  we  monitor  vacancies,  overtime,  and  sick  leave.  We  are  able 
to  use  information  from  COMPSTAT  to  track  trends  and  measure  critical  fiduciary  areas. 
We  are  also  able  to  track  and  analyze  attrition  rates,  which  allows  the  Department  to 
prepare  succession  planning  strategies  due  to  the  growing  number  of  employees 
projected  to  retire  in  the  next  10  years. 


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6.  As  you  study  COMPSTAT  figures,  what  emerging  trends  stand  out  over  the 
past  year  from  your  analysis?  Where  are  you  making  progress?  In  what 
areas  do  you  need  to  make  improvements?  Do  you  support  following  the 
examples  of  Los  Angeles  and  New  York  and  posting  the  figures  publicly? 

An  emerging  trend  is  that  both  sick  leave  and  overtime  have  been  on  a  downward  trend 
since  the  Department  implemented  stricter  controls.  CDCR's  executive  staff  monitors 
these  performance  measures  at  the  institution,  mission,  and  Department  levels. 
COMPSTAT  has  improved  the  accuracy  of  the  data  and  made  the  information  available 
to  managers  at  the  prisons  and  headquarters.  Additionally,  we  just  implemented  a 
process  to  collect  current  and  accurate  position  vacancy  data  which  is  key  to  managing 
our  overtime  expenditures. 

I  need  to  make  additional  improvements  in  our  fiscal  monitoring  capabilities.  When  I 
was  appointed,  this  was  one  of  the  areas  the  Secretary  asked  me  to  focus  on.  I 
currently  have  a  project  team  working  on  this  initiative.  The  institutions'  budget 
allotment  and  expenditure  data  was  also  recently  added  to  COMPSTAT.  We  are  fine- 
tuning  this  data  and  will  be  poised  to  connect  with  BIS  when  it  is  implemented  later  this 
summer. 

Yes,  I  support  posting  some  of  the  high-level  COMPSTAT  information  publicly.  While 
working  for  the  Davis  Administration,  one  of  the  initiatives  I  lead  was  the  "California 
Scorecard."  This  website  was  developed  to  post  key  performance  measures  for  state 
agencies  and  was  modeled  after  "Open.Virginia.gov."  Unfortunately,  the  website  was 
not  implemented  before  the  end  of  the  Administration.  At  CDCR,  we  track  more  than 
500  data  items  on  a  monthly  basis  so  we  would  need  to  discern  the  topics  of  interest 
and  roll-up  the  data  so  it  is  informative  and  not  overwhelming.  I  believe  posting  high- 
level  information  will  provide  transparency  and  help  people  understand  the  magnitude  of 
our  operations. 

7.  In  recent  years,  the  department  has  budgeted  $100  million  for  overtime 
costs,  while  $400  million  or  so  is  being  spent,  leaving  a  $200  million  gap. 
Mr.  Cate  says  you  have  reduced  overtime  by  about  $88  million  in  the  first 
seven  months  of  the  current  fiscal  year.  What  is  the  biggest  driver  of 
overtime,  and  what  new  initiatives  are  you  taking  to  try  to  further  control 
these  costs? 

Primarily,  overtime  has  been  reduced  in  the  current  fiscal  year  due  to  the  Department's 
success  in  filling  custody  vacancies.  Correctional  Officer  vacancies  have  significantly 
contributed  to  overtime  expenditures  over  the  past  several  years.  CDCR  has  been 
working  to  refine  its  tracking  of  overtime  and  the  individual  causes  of  overtime.  Budget 
staff  has  provided  proper  coding  training  to  departmental  staff  and  is  monitoring  the  pay 
and  absence  coding.  This  effort  has  resulted  in  significant  improvement  in  accurate 
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For  the  current  year,  our  data  shows  that  medical  guarding  and  transportation,  primarily 
for  the  Receiver,  is  the  single  largest  category  of  overtime  expenditures.  Sick  leave  is 
the  second  largest  category  of  overtime  expenditures  and  the  third  contributing  factor  is 
vacant  positions.  Overtime  related  to  sick  leave  is  closely  linked  to  vacant  positions.  As 
vacant  positions  decline  our  analysis  shows  that  overtime  related  to  sick  leave  also 
declines.  Furthermore,  the  Department  has  implemented  a  new  sick  leave  policy  that 
will  assist  in  reducing  overtime  related  to  sick  leave.  These  measures  include:  1)  the 
elevation  of  approval  for  overtime  to  administrator  level,  2)  the  readjustment  of  parole 
agent  workload  (modification  of  parolee  contact  requirements),  3)  the  delegation  of 
mandatory  training  to  qualified  noncase  carrying  agents,  supervisors,  and  parole  agents 
whose  caseloads  are  below  the  maximum,  and  4)  the  redisricting  of  two  regions,  thus 
decreasing  hours  of  overtime,  and  greatly  improving  agent  productivity  by  localizing 
cases  and  reducing  miles  driven  and  fuel  consumption  in  the  region. 

Another  project  I  am  sponsoring  is  the  Overtime  Project  Team.  The  team  is  tasked  to 
gather,  review,  and  analyze  overtime  data,  and  propose  a  comprehensive  plan  to 
reduce  and  control  overtime,  including  development  and  implementation  of  effective 
policies  and  procedures.  This  includes  specific  analysis  to  pinpoint  institution-related 
overtime  issues  and  come  up  with  an  action  plan  to  address  these  issues.  This  will 
enable  us  to  develop  policies  and  address  the  drivers  of  overtime,  while  controlling  our 
expenditures  so  wo  can  request  a  realistic,  supportable  overtime  Budget  Change 
Proposal  from  the  Department  of  Finance  (DOF)  and  the  Legislature. 

8.  Late  payments  to  some  of  the  department's  suppliers  of  services — 
including  health  care,  parole  services  and  other  program  providers — have 
complained  for  years  of  chronic  lateness  in  reimbursement.  What 
percentage  of  bills  are  paid  on  time?  If  so,  what  is  the  breakdown?  What 
are  you  doing  to  ensure  that  your  accounts  are  current  and  providers  are 
reimbursed  promptly? 

CDCR  is  one  of  the  largest  purchasers  of  goods  and  services  for  the  State  of 
California.  As  such,  it  naturally  leads  to  a  large  number  of  invoices  and  a  dedicated 
number  of  providers  who  continue  to  provide  goods  and  services  during  these  difficult 
times.  While  we  currently  do  not  track  the  percentage  of  bills  paid  on  time,  our 
accounting  operations  believe  the  vast  majority  of  providers  are  paid  on  time.  Payment 
delays  are,  in  large  part,  due  to  issues  beyond  our  control.  As  a  24-hour  operation 
charged  with  providing  constitutional  care  to  inmates  and  wards,  the  Department  cannot 
slow  down  purchasing  and,  when  there  are  budgetary  problems  such  as  the  late 
passage  of  the  budget  that  has  occurred  over  the  past  several  years,  and  the  forced 
slowdown  by  the  State  Controllers  Office  (SCO)  that  occurred  this  year,  CDCR's 
vendors  suffer  the  consequences.  In  this  year  alone,  payment  processes  were  affected 
for  over  five  months.  Every  late  invoice  requires  computations  to  be  completed  to 
determine  the  amount  of  penalties.  Inquiries  from  vendors  checking  on  the  status  of 
their  payments  also  significantly  increase. 


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Additionally,  the  workload  on  our  accounting  operations  continues  to  rise  without  a 
corresponding  increase  in  the  number  of  staff.  As  an  example,  the  number  of  invoices 
we  receive  for  contracted  medical  care  has  almost  tripled  with  the  implementation  of 
court  orders.  In  FY  2005-06,  we  processed  approximately  155,000  invoices.  In  the 
current  year,  we  have  processed  approximately  400,000  invoices. 

CDCR  also  inevitably  makes  mistakes  due  to  the  significant  volume  of  invoices 
processed.  These  mistakes  may  include:  a  lost  or  misdirected  invoice  which  requires  a 
late  payment  penalty;  an  invoice  not  disputed  timely;  an  invoice  not  approved  timely; 
etc. 

We  have  identified  and  are  implementing  several  solutions  to  alleviate  some  of  the 
problems,  including  1)  transitioning  to  BIS.  While  it  is  not  yet  fully  implemented,  we 
believe  it  will  help  CDCR  track  invoices  and  use  some  industry-  standard  tools  to  help 
manage  invoices  to  ensure  timely  payments;  2)  conducting  a  pilot  project 
wherein  nonaccounting  staff  enters  invoices  into  BIS.  This  has  the  effect  of  getting 
invoices  into  the  payment  process  sooner  without  having  more  accounting  staff;  and  3) 
actively  recruiting  to  fill  critical  vacant  accounting  positions. 

No  matter  what  the  cause  for  the  late  payment,  CDCR  works  with  the  vendors  and  the 
SCO  to  make  the  required  payments  as  quickly  as  possible  and  get  the  penalties  paid. 
Currently,  we  are  beginning  to  catch  up  on  paying  penalties  to  our  vendors  who  were 
impacted  by  the  SCO-mandated  delayed  payments;  however,  it  will  take  some  time  due 
to  the  quantity  of  items  that  were  delayed. 

Facilities/Construction 

The  Legislature  approved  AB  900  (Solorio  and  Aghazarian),  Chapter  7,  Statutes  of 
2007,  the  Public  Safety  and  Offender  Rehabilitation  Services  Act  of  2007.  This  act  is 
intended  to  finance  construction  of  space  for  thousands  of  state  inmates  and  create  a 
broad  range  of  performance  measures  that  the  department  must  meet.  Based  on 
March  2009  figures  and  subject  to  further  modification,  the  AB  900  first-phase 
construction  plans  call  for  the  creation  of  space  for  2, 630  to  4, 800  inmates  at  a  cost  of 
$1.2  billion.  You  have  a  chief  deputy  for  Facility  Planning,  Construction  and 
management  (FPCM)  who  reports  to  you. 

9.  There  are  many  moving  parts  in  terms  of  the  California  prison  population 
including  an  overcrowding  lawsuit,  the  federal  receiver's  plans,  and  recent 
policy  initiatives  that  could  result  in  a  significant  reduction  in  population. 
How  does  the  AB  900  plan  fit  into  the  overall  population  management  plan? 

Population  management  is  the  most  foundational  element  to  CDCR's  operations. 
CDCR's  staffing,  resources,  facilities,  services  and  over-arching  operational  objectives 


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are  all  based  on  what  population  is  being  served  and  the  unique  requirements  of  that 
population,  both  in-prison  and  on  parole.  CDCR  has  developed  forecast  models  for  its 
juvenile  wards  and  adult  inmates,  and  even  subsets  of  its  population  such  as 
forecasting  mental  health  patients,  security  levels,  etc,  and  has  forecasted  significant 
shortages  of  beds  in  the  coming  years.  CDCR  accommodated  that  growth  primarily 
through  increasing  its  overcrowding  rates.  CDCR,  the  Administration,  and  the 
Legislature  passed  AB  900  in  May  2007  in  order  to  build  additional  capacity  in  CDCR 
prisons  and  to  alleviate  overcrowding  in  an  effort  to  prevent  a  release  order  by  the 
federal  court. 

Subsequent  to  the  passage  of  AB  900,  fiscal  challenges  have  forced  CDCR  and  the 
Administration  to  look  at  reducing  the  State's  prison  population  through  various  reform 
and  budget  measures  in  order  to  reduce  CDCR's  impact  on  the  General  Fund  deficit. 
At  the  same  time,  the  three-judge  panel  in  the  overcrowding  case  has  at  least 
tentatively  ruled  that  the  State's  prisons  are  overcrowded  by  as  much  as  50,000 
inmates  and  such  overcrowding  would  require  a  release  of  prisoners  and  a  cap  of  the 
total  population  in  order  to  mitigate  the  effects  of  overcrowding.  One  of  those  effects,  as 
determined  by  the  three-judge  panel,  is  the  inability  to  deliver  constitutional  levels  of 
healthcare.  The  Federal  Receiver  in  the  Plata  case  had  proposed  to  build  up  to  10,000 
new  healthcare  beds  in  addition  to  the  construction  of  new  infill  and  reentry  beds 
contemplated  under  AB  900. 

CDCR's  response  to  its  population  pressures  has  been  to  develop  an  Integrated 
Strategy  Plan  that  will  guide  its  population  management.  The  plan  includes  construction 
through  AB  900,  construction  of  some  healthcare  beds,  and  improvements  through  a 
combination  of  funding  sources,  parole  reform,  and  other  policy  initiatives  that  will 
reduce  the  population.  This  multi-pronged  approach  is  aimed  at  building  the 
appropriate  type  of  housing  and  treatment  space  for  the  most  high  risk,  high  need 
inmate^  currently  under  the  State's  jurisdiction  in  the  most  cost  effective  manner 
possible. 

AB  900  is  a  critical  piece  of  CDCR's  Integrated  Strategy  Plan  and  represents  the  most 
viable  and  immediate  plan  to  build  sufficient  capacity  for  CDCR  to  help  mitigate  the 
overcrowding  levels  in  the  prisons,  thereby  limiting  the  impact  of  a  federal  release.  The 
overcrowding  levels  are  most  severe  in  the  reception  centers  and  the  Level  III  and  IV 
population  subsets  given  the  shortage  of  facilities.  Inasmuch  as  any  prisoner  release 
order  would  impact  the  lower  levels  of  offenders  under  CDCR's  authority,  it  is  critical 
that  sufficient  celled  capacity  is  built  in  order  to  avoid  an  overcrowding  order  forcing 
CDCR  to  extend  a  prisoner  release  to  a  more  dangerous  population  of  inmates. 
AB  900's  plan  has  been  revised  to  eliminate  low-level  dorm  beds  in  favor  of  building 
more  cells  as  well  as  building  additional  mental  health  and  medical  facilities  for  long 
term  care  of  inmates  and  at  least  one  reception  center  to  address  the  severe  shortage 
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Unfortunately,  given  the  current  fiscal  challenges  faced  by  the  State,  the  funding 
necessary  for  building  capacity  at  existing  institutions,  new  reentry  sites  and  even 
healthcare  beds  threatens  the  ability  of  CDCR  to  be  proactive  in  minimizing  the  impact 
of  the  three-judge  ruling.  At  current  cost  estimates,  CDCR  anticipated  building 
approximately  18,000  infill  and  reentry  beds,  and  approximately  3,300  healthcare  beds, 
less  than  half  the  amount  identified  in  the  tentative  ruling  by  the  three-judge  panel. 
CDCR  and  the  Administration  are  taking  the  opportunity  presented  by  these  unique  set 
of  challenges  to  put  forth  a  comprehensive  plan  of  parole  reform  aimed  at  reducing  the 
need  to  incarcerate  low-risk  offenders,  saving  the  taxpayers  hundreds  of  millions  of 
dollars  annually.  These  reform  measures  will  also  have  a  positive  impact  on  reducing 
the  population  and  it  is  hoped  that  the  combination  of  added  capacity  for  high-risk,  high- 
need  inmates  and  lowered  population  of  low-risk  offenders  will  enable  CDCR  to  help  the 
State  through  this  budget  crisis  and  begin  to  reshape  the  manner  in  which  CDCR 
manages  its  population  well  into  the  future. 

W.What  are  your  responsibilities  for  implementation  of  AB  900?  Which  are 
under  the  supervision  of  the  other  undersecretaries?  How  do  you 
coordinate  with  other  undersecretaries?  What  role  do  you  play  in 
monitoring  implementation? 

The  Chief  Deputy  Secretary  of  Facility  Planning,  Construction  and 
Management  (FPCM)  reports  directly  to  me.  Part  of  FPCM's  and  my  role  is  to  ensure 
that  all  programmatic  elements  of  CDCR's  facility  planning  efforts,  including  AB  900 
construction  plans,  are  incorporated  at  the  earliest  phase  of  design.  In  the  case  of 
AB  900,  each  specific  program  (i.e.  Infill,  Healthcare,  Reentry,  and  Jail  bond  funding)  is 
managed  by  appointed  program  managers  who  conduct  planning  sessions,  hold 
bi-weekly  briefings  with  CDCR  programs  on  progress,  and  perform  all  the  design  and 
construction  oversight  required  by  each  project.  For  example,  AB  900  required  that  new 
construction  provide  for  full  programming  and  there  is  certainly  an  expectation  in  light  of 
the  current  court  cases  regarding  healthcare  that  the  new  construction  also  provide  for 
adequate  healthcare  space.  These  requirements  are  incorporated  into  the  design 
objectives  and  ongoing  communication  is  maintained  with  CDCR  divisions  to  ensure 
their  programmatic  needs  are  met.  I,  along  with  the  other  Undersecretaries,  meet  with 
other  members  of  Cabinet  routinely  to  establish  the  overall  vision  of  AB  900,  key 
milestones,  and  major  operational  objectives.  Progress  is  measured  through  routine  AB 
900  benchmark  meetings  with  the  Secretary.  These  meetings  will  increase  in  frequency 
and  specificity  once  AB  900  funding  to  proceed  with  design  is  available  and  the  program 
is  fully  operational.  In  addition  to  monitoring  this  progress,  I  will  ensure  all  critical 
resources  needed  for  effectively  implementing  AB  900  are  available  to  the  AB  900 
teams. 

Lastly,  the  FPCM  holds  bi-weekly  meetings  on  all  AB  900  projects  and  critical 
milestones  are  reported  at  each  of  these  meetings,  with  critical-path  issues  raised  and 


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obstacles  or  delays  in  schedule  identified.  Any  schedule  impacts,  fiscal  overruns,  and 
scope  implications  are  reported  to  me. 

1 1 .  What  is  your  current  best  estimate  on  the  amount  of  space  you  will  build  in 
the  first  phase?  Why  are  these  numbers  seemingly  changing  on  a  regular 
basis?  When  do  you  expect  to  break  ground  on  the  first  of  these  projects? 

Debra  Hysen,  your  chief  deputy  secretary,  indicated  that  in  May  2007  FPCM  consisted 
of  290.5  authorized  personnel.  After  May  2007  FPCM  increased  to  397  authorized 
personnel.  Of  the  397  authorized  positions,  88.5  were  authorized  under  AB  900;  12 
positions  were  redirected  from  the  Division  of  Adult  Institutions,  and  3  positions  were 
redirected  from  the  Division  of  Juvenile  Justice  to  create  a  new  Maintenance  Services 
Branch  with  regional  oversight  of  plant  operations.  Since  May  2007  FPCM  has  filled  17 
of  the  88.5  positions  authorized  by  AB  900  (19.2  percent). 

Currently,  we  anticipate  building  enough  beds  for  8,000  inmates  in  Phase  1  of  the  Infill 
Program,  spending  approximately  $1.8  billion.  These  numbers  have  changed  due  to, 
a)  the  extent  population  changes  have  driven  a  different  kind  of  facility  (as  further 
described  in  the  response  to  Question  9  above),  and  b)  revised  cost  estimates  based  on 
changing  market  conditions  due  to  delay  and  the  impact  the  delay  has  on  the  total 
conceptual  cost  estimate.  Additionally,  CDCR  has  been  working  with  the  Receiver  over 
the  last  six  to  eight  months  to  analyze  the  feasibility  of  housing  some  of  the  general 
population  inmates  it  had  previously  planned  to  place  in  the  Consolidated  Care  Facilities 
contemplated  in  SB  1665  within  its  infill  facilities.  These  inmates  are  currently  housed  in 
existing  prisons  and  receive  outpatient  services  and  CDCR  believes  that  some  of  the 
infill  sites  would  be  ideal  to  house  this  population  of  offenders  and  the  Federal  Receiver 
has  concurred.  Lastly,  a  Division  of  Juvenile  Justice  (DJJ)  site  considered  for  closure 
affords  CDCR  the  opportunity  to  leverage  an  existing  facility  that  will  maximize  the 
number  of  beds  gained  for  adults  at  a  lower  cost  than  new  construction. 

The  ground  breaking  for  these  sites  is  predicated  on  obtaining  funding  for  design  of  the 
AB  900  Infill  and  Reentry  projects.  Only  one  mental  health  project  has  been  authorized 
for  funding  to  date  from  AB  900's  lease  revenue  appropriation  due  to  the  condition  of 
the  Pooled  Money  Investment  Account  and  the  pending  Taxpayers  for  Improving  Public 
Service  (TIPS)  litigation,  which  remains  unresolved.  Once  funded,  CDCR  can  begin  its 
preliminary  plans  and  working  drawings  and,  if  approved  at  that  juncture,  can  proceed 
to  the  construction  phase.  Groundbreaking  for  new  projects  is  anticipated  to  occur 
within  18  months  to  two  years  following  initial  funding  of  design  work. 

12.  How  large  do  you  see  the  construction  staff  growing  in  the  coming  years 
as  new  facilities  are  being  planned? 

The  Legislature  authorized  six  General  Fund  and  82.5  Lease  Revenue  Funded  (LRF) 
positions,  for  a  total  of  88.5  authorized  AB  900  positions.    The  six  General  Fund 


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positions  have  been  filled.  Eleven  of  the  LRF  positions  have  also  been  filled;  however, 
without  LRF  funds  that  can  only  be  made  available  following  the  financing  approval  of 
the  Pooled  Money  Investment  Board,  these  positions  cannot  be  properly  funded. 
Therefore,  FPCM  redirected  funds  from  other  areas  within  its  program  to  temporarily 
fund  the  1 1  positions.  CDCR  has  been  very  judicious  in  minimizing  the  total  number  of 
unfunded  AB  900  positions  to  that  which  is  critically  necessary.  There  are 
approximately  17  AB  900  positions  that  have  been  filled  as  of  May  2009.  As  each 
project  is  authorized  and  funding  approved,  additional  personnel  will  be  hired  into  the 
authorized  positions. 

The  construction  staff  and  related  support  staff  (i.e.  planning,  contracts,  etc.)  within 
FPCM  are  anticipated  to  grow  to  the  authorized  amount  of  88.5  AB  900  positions.  It 
was  CDCR's  intent  to  seek  an  increase  of  positions  above  the  authorized  amount  as  the 
program  proceeded  into  its  construction  phases  (years  3-5)  to  more  effectively  manage 
the  workload.  However,  given  the  current  economic  condition  of  the  State,  it  is  FPGM's 
intent  to  limit  additional  growth  in  this  program  to  only  critical  workload  needs  that 
cannot  be  met  through  its  private  sector  counterparts  working  alongside  CDCR  staff  in 
these  program  areas.  All  of  the  AB  900  positions  will  be  billable  out  of  the  project's 
costs  and  CDCR  will  work  aggressively  through  the  project's  duration  to  limit  total 
expenditures. 

13.  With  many  prisons  in  remote  locations,  what  are  you  doing  to  recruit  and 
retain  workers  for  maintenance  and  construction  positions?  How  many 
vacancies  do  you  have  currently?  As  you  gear  up  for  more  construction 
projects,  how  many  additional  staff  positions  will  you  need,  and  are  you 
recruiting  the  staff  now? 

The  remote  locations  pose  some  challenges,  not  only  for  attracting  CDCR  project  staff 
but  also  for  recruiting  and  retaining  outside  contractors  and  consultants.  However,  the 
economic  conditions  that  exist  currently,  and  in  the  foreseeable  future,  provide  a 
significant  window  of  opportunity  to  CDCR's  building  program  that  we  believe  will  not 
only  afford  CDCR  the  opportunity  to  hire  State  employees,  but  also  our  partners  in 
consulting  and  contracting  firms. 

CDCR  has  established  lists  and  conducted  testing  for  a  number  of  positions  and  is 
ready  to  make  job  offers  on  a  number  of  these.  However,  the  offers  have  been 
postponed  due  to  the  uncertainty  surrounding  AB  900  funding  as  these  are  all  lease- 
revenue  funded  and  without  project  approval  and  interim  financing,  CDCR  cannot 
absorb  these  costs.  FPCM  plans  to  begin  an  aggressive  recruitment  when  the  AB  900 
program  is  fully  implemented  but  believes  that  its  existing  personnel  can  handle  the 
current  tasks  at  hand  until  funding  authorizations  are  received.  Lastly,  all  consulting 
firms  necessary  for  the  design  stages  of  construction  have  been  retained  and  upon 
funding,  contracts  will  be  executed  to  begin  this  stage.  Once  these  contracts  are  in 
place,  they  too  will  begin  increasing  their  staffing  levels. 


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CDCR's  Master  Plan  Annual  Report  for  2008  says  the  Department  was  planning  on  275 
female  residential  multi-service  center  beds  in  Fiscal  Year  (FY)  2007-08,  150  in  (FY) 
2008-09,  and  150  in  (FY)  2009-10,  for  a  total  of  575  beds.  They  note  that  25  beds  were 
activated  in  April  2008  in  Sacramento,  and  that  a  request  for  proposal  for  250  beds  was 
released  May  12,  2008,  with  bids  due  September  11,  2008. 

14.  What  is  the  plan  for  the  other  300  beds?  Will  they  be  constructed?  What  is 
the  timetable  for  establishing  these  facilities?  What  has  the  department 
done  with  the  funds  earmarked  for  these  female  facilities  with  the  projects 
behind  schedule?  Do  the  funds  revert  back  to  the  General  Fund? 

A  recommendation  was  made  by  Cabinet  and  approved  the  Secretary  to  temporarily 
delay  the  initiatives  to  expand  and  fund  these  programs  due  to  severe  budget  cuts  and 
until  CDCR's  population  reforms  and  the  impact  of  those  reforms  on  the  female 
population  is  known.  All  savings  will  revert  to  the  General  Fund  and  have  been  reported 
to  DOF  on  a  monthly  basis. 

Infrastructure 

Overcrowding  has  resulted  in  heavy  usage  of  sewage  and  wastewater  systems  in  some 
prisons.  Prison  managers  complain  about  their  inability  to  keep  up  with  regular 
maintenance.  Local  communities  frequently  complain  about  the  impact  of  CDCR 
facilities  on  the  surrounding  area. 

15.  Please  describe  the  department's  efforts  to  address  the  issue  of 
infrastructure  degradation  and  any  expected  time  frames  for 
improvements.  How  do  you  prioritize  the  competing  infrastructure  needs 
at  different  institutions?  .*»»  < 

Infrastructure  degradation  is  a  major  issue  facing  CDCR  for  a  number  of  reasons,  two  of 
which  are  overcrowding  and  aging  infrastructure.  Because  of  inadequate  funding 
necessary  to  maintain  its  buildings,  CDCR  has  had  to  perform  complete  overhauls  or 
replacements  of  building  components  earlier  than  their  predetermined  obsolescence. 
Recent  examples  of  this  have  included  entire  plumbing  lines,  roofing  systems,  and  even 
cell  doors  that  have  corroded  once  their  protective  coating  wore  out  over  time  without 
being  reapplied.  In  some  cases,  failures  are  catastrophic  due  to  lack  of  ongoing 
maintenance  such  as,  a  cogeneration  plant  that  became  inoperative  for  several  years 
due  to  the  lack  of  funds  despite  the  fact  that  when  operational,  it  generated  $1  million 
annually  in  revenues.  In  nearly  every  type  of  building  system  or  component,  lack  of 
updates  and  regular  maintenance,  including  substantial  repairs  when  necessary,  will 
lead  to  higher  costs  at  a  later  time  to  repair  them. 


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CDCR  recently  completed  an  analysis  at  multiple  institutions  to  assess  the  condition  of 
the  facilities  and  to  determine  the  appropriate  level  of  investment  necessary  to  maintain 
them  at  their  optimum  levels.  The  results  of  this  analysis  clearly  show  that  the  entire 
portfolio  of  facilities  is  woefully  underfunded  in  comparison  to  other  similar  building 
portfolios.  This  analysis  only  validated  what  CDCR  has  long  known  -  that  its 
infrastructure  systems  are  failing  and  that  there  is  not  enough  money  to  address  even 
the  basic  and  critical  needs. 

FPCM  created  the  Maintenance  Services  Branch  in  2007  to  provide  critical  oversight  to 
ensure  CDCR's  facility  needs  were  being  identified  and  prioritized  and  that  remedies 
were  developed  on  a  timely  basis  and  managed  throughout  implementation.  In  some 
cases,  this  has  been  as  simple  as  enforcing  the  requirements  of  the  plant  operations 
personnel  to  complete  prescribed  preventative  maintenance  functions  and,  in  others, 
identifying  appropriate  short  and  long-term  projects  necessary  to  sustain  and  even 
enhance  infrastructure  operations,  securing  funding,  implementing  them,  and  monitoring 
them  throughout.  This  branch  has  also  identified  personnel  shortfalls  in  plant 
operations  at  each  institution  in  preparation  of  future  funding  requests. 

Due  to  recently  proposed  budget  cuts,  the  ability  to  sustain  even  critical  infrastructure 
systems  is  at  risk.  This  will  seriously  impact  the  ability  to  eliminate  sudden  failures, 
diminished  operations,  and  potential  problems,  such  as  sewage  spills,  being 
experienced  by  surrounding  communities.  FPCM  views  maintenance  of  its  facilities  as 
one  of  its  most  critical  priorities  -  if  a  prison  goes  down  due  to  an  infrastructure  failure 
and  stays  inoperative  for  any  length  of  time,  CDCR  simply  does  not  have  the  capacity  to 
redirect  the  population  to  other  sites.  Thus,  continuing  this  critical  role  is  essential  in 
sustaining  and  ultimately,  optimizing  CDCR  operations. 

16.  How  is  the  department  ensuring  that  the  construction  required  by  AB  900 
will  not  exacerbate  infrastructure  issues,  such  as  a  lack  of  wastewater 
capacity?  Also,  are  you  utilizing  renewable  energy  sources  and  other 
environmentally  friendly  building  standards  at  prisons?  Please  describe 
the  work  that  you  do  with  local  surrounding  communities  to  answer 
possible  concerns/questions  about  proposed  construction. 

CDCR's  revisions  to  the  original  AB  900  plan  took  into  consideration  those  areas  of  the 
State  and  those  prisons  that  had  the  capacity  to  expand  critical  infrastructure  systems 
like  water  and  wastewater.  As  a  result,  several  sites  were  dropped  from  consideration 
that  may  have  had  critical  flaws  that  would  impede  expansion  and  that  could  not  be 
overcome  by  increasing  on-site  capacity  in  a  cost-effective  manner.  Because  the  Infill 
program  will  be  adding  capacity  to  existing  prisons,  CDCR  will  incorporate  the 
appropriate  changes  to  the  existing  systems  to  ensure  that  adequate  capacity  is 
maintained  for  the  existing  and  increased  population.  In  addition,  the  AB  900  legislation 
provided  for  a  $300  million  General  Fund  (GF)  appropriation  to  address  infrastructure 
deficiencies  throughout  the  State's  network  of  prisons  and  CDCR  will  continue  to 


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leverage  this  appropriation  to  ensure  overstrained  infrastructure  systems  are  being 
properly  addressed. 

CDCR  is  proud  to  have  in  place  one  of  the  most  ambitious  energy  conservation 
programs  in  California  State  government,  which  received  an  award  in  2007-08  for 
Outstanding  Achievements  in  Energy  and  was  recently  named  by  the  Climate  Registry 
as  the  largest  State  agency  engaged  in  implementing  energy  conservation  measures 
aimed  at  reducing  greenhouse  gas  emissions.  The  Energy  and  Resource  Management 
Division  is  housed  within  FPCM  and  has  recently  achieved  its  target  of  reducing  water 
conservation  by  20  percent  statewide  in  CDCR  prisons,  an  effort  partly  funded  by  the 
AB  900  $300  million  GF  appropriation.  CRCR  purchased  and  installed  water 
constriction  devices,  or  flushometers,  on  cell  toilets  in  all  of  its  facilities  that  control  the 
number  of  flushes.  These  devices,  in  combination  with  ongoing  water  surveys  and  a 
water-conservation  campaign  FPCM  launched  statewide  in  each  prison,  have  yielded 
significant  results  so  far.  With  the  statewide  drought  continuing,  CDCR  will  continue  to 
increase  conservation  efforts  in  this  important  area. 

FPCM  has  completed  two  large  solar  farms  in  the  last  three  years  of  one  megawatt 
each,  or  6,000  solar  panels  at  each  site,  and  has  plans  for  six  additional  sites  in  addition 
to  exploring  wind  generation  at  two  prison  locations.  It  has  also  completed  a  multi- 
million  dollar  energy  retrofit  project  in  partnership  with  the  State's  largest  utility  providers 
with  plans  for  more.  The  prisons  to  be  constructed  with  AB  900  funds  will  also  be  built 
in  accordance  with  LEED  criteria  and  CDCR  will  continually  be  reviewing  opportunities 
on  all  of  its  renovation  projects  to  construct  them  with  energy  and  resource  conservation 
as  an  overriding  objective. 

Budgeting 

The  Fiscal  Services  Division  under  your  jurisdiction  has  responsibility  for  the 
department's  budget.  The  Legislative  Analyst  has  reported  from  1987-88  to  2007-08, 
corrections  spending  increased  from  $1.7  billion  to  $10.1  billion,  an  average  annual 
increase  of  9  percent.  By  comparison,  total  General  Fund  spending  has  grown  at  a 
slower  average  annual  rate  of  6  percent.  As  a  consequence,  spending  on  corrections 
takes  up  about  twice  as  much  of  the  state  budget  than  it  did  20  years  ago,  increasing 
from  5  percent  to  10  percent  of  total  General  Fund  spending. 

17.  Given  current  budget  restraints,  what  criteria  do  you  use  to  prioritize 
department  activities? 

The  Secretary  has  made  it  clear  to  all  of  Cabinet  that  his  expectation  is  that  we  will  set 
priorities  as  a  Cabinet  based  on  the  vision,  mission,  values,  and  goals  we  have  worked 
to  establish  over  the  past  seven  months.  As  a  result,  every  time  we  face  an  important 
decision  about  budget  reductions  or  constraints,  the  entire  Cabinet  prepares  and 
reviews   alternative    options.      Where    possible,    we    provide   the    Secretary   with   a 


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recommendation  based  on  our  consensus.  When  it  is  not  possible  to  reach  consensus, 
we  present  the  Secretary  with  the  various  perspectives  and  anticipated  consequences 
so  that  he  can  make  an  informed  decision.  In  instances  where  a  significant  amount  of 
analysis  is  required,  we  may  delegate  to  the  Chief  Deputy  Secretaries  for  discussion 
and  recommendation.  The  recommendations  are  usually  based  on  input  from  all  parts 
of  the  organization. 

In  regards  to  CDCR's  budget  taking  up  about  twice  as  much  of  the  state  budget  than  it 
did  20  years  ago,  it  is  important  to  note  that  the  Department's  inmate  population  has 
more  than  doubled  over  the  past  20  years,  increasing  from  76,171  inmates  in  1988  to 
171,085  inmates  in  2008.  Consequently,  our  budget  has  also  significantly  increased. 

18./s  it  your  responsibility  to  ensure  that  funding  authorized  by  the  Legislature 
is  used  for  the  intended  purpose,  such  as  a  new  education  or  treatment 
program?  For  example,  what  role  did  you  play  in  reallocating  funds 
originally  intended  for  female  offender  wrap  around  parole  services? 

For  the  female  offender  wrap  around  parole  services,  the  recommendation  was  made 
by  Cabinet  and  approved  by  the  Secretary  to  delay  all  but  one  of  these  projects  until 
next  budget  year  when  we  will  have  a  better  estimate  of  the  female  parole  population. 
We  have  many  reforms  under  consideration  which  would  drastically  reduce  the  female 
parole  population.  We  did  not  feel  it  was  fiscally  prudent  to  proceed  with  these 
contracts  given  that  parole  reforms  under  consideration  for  the  past  year  would 
significantly  reduce  the  need  for  these  beds. 

All  of  the  significant  budget-related  decisions  made  over  the  past  year  were  done  as 
part  of  a  collaborative  Cabinet  effort.  At  the  beginning  of  the  fiscal  year,  the  Secretary 
made  it  extremely  clear  that  he  expected  the  Department  to  come  in  within  our 
budgeted  authority.  In  addition  to  an  $80  million  unallocated  reduction  that  we  received 
as  a  result  of  the  Governor's  veto  message  in  September,  the  Department  has  a 
structural  deficit  of  approximately  $120  million  caused  by  unfunded  overtime,  parolee 
medication,  infrastructure  repairs,  etc.  These  reductions  made  it  impossible  for  us  to 
stay  within  our  budgeted  authority  this  fiscal  year  without  deferring  spending  in  some 
areas.  Therefore,  every  division  and  office  within  the  Department  was  asked  to  identify 
positions  that  could  be  held  vacant  or  contracts  that  could  be  delayed  in  an  attempt  to 
reduce  overall  expenditures. 

Additionally,  any  emergency  repair  that  immediately  threatens  life  and  safety,  or  is 
required  to  bring  a  facility  back  into  operation  upon  a  system  failure,  must  be  made  as 
soon  as  possible.  In  the  event  CDCR  has  to  make  such  a  repair,  funds  must  either  be 
immediately  identified  from  within  CDCR  through  redirection  or  an  alternative  source  if 
available. 


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19,/s  it  your  responsibility  to  ensure  that  wardens  are  within  budget?  What 
happens  if  a  warden's  budget  is  in  the  red?  Is  it  your  job  or  Undersecretary 
Kernan's  to  address  this  matter? 

The  responsibility  of  ensuring  the  wardens  are  within  budget  lies  both  with 
Undersecretary  Kernan  and  myself.  As  the  Undersecretary  of  Administration,  it  is  my 
job  to  monitor  the  budget  for  the  entire  Department  to  ensure  we  do  not  exceed  our 
appropriation,  and  this  includes  the  institutions.  However,  the  institutions  are  under  the 
operational  control  of  Undersecretary  Kernan  and,  as  such,  he  controls  the  decision- 
making process  regarding  operations.  We  review  the  expenditure  data  together,  usually 
at  a  COMPSTAT  or  fiscal  review  meeting,  identify  the  drivers  of  the  expenses,  and 
develop  plans  to  prevent  the  expenditures  in  the  future.  We  both  monitor  the  situations 
to  ensure  the  solutions  are  implemented  and  the  budgets  are  back  in  control. 

20.  Please  describe  how  the  headquarters  staff  has  grown  over  the  past  five 
years.   What  was  the  vacancy  percentage  Five  years  ago?  What  is  it  today? 

There  was  a  significant  growth  in  headquarters'  position  authority  between  FYs  2004-05 
and  2008-09.  Most  of  the  positions  were  approved  by  the  Legislature  in  response  to 
budget  proposals  from  the  Administration  to  address  critical  issues  as  outlined  below: 
1)  Jessica's  Law;  2)  HR/Expanding  the  Academy;  3)  Valdivia  Court  Order;  4)  Internal 
Monitoring  and  Auditing;  5)  Court  Compliance;  6)  Administrative  Infrastructure  (IT  and 
Accounting);  7)  Out-of-State  Transfers  and  Female  Offender  Programming;  and  8)  AB 
900  (Construction  and  Programs). 

Recently,  due  to  the  current  fiscal  situation,  the  Secretary  ordered  a  10%  cut  of  the 
4267  headquarters'  positions.  This  reduction  is  currently  being  implemented  in 
conjunction  with  the  CDCR  GF  layoff  ordered  by  the  Governor's  Office. 

The  current  CDCR  vacancy  rate  is  6.4  percent;  the  vacancy  rate  for  CDC  in  2005  was 
10.3  percent. 

21.  Are  positions  being  redirected  from  their  originally  authorized  legislative 
purpose  to  other  activities?  Please  describe. 

Yes,  occasionally  positions  are  redirected  from  their  originally  authorized  purpose  to 
other  activities.  This  is  part  of  the  normal  prioritization  of  workload  that  has  to  occur  in  a 
department  of  our  size  and  complexity.  It  is  not  our  intention  to  request  resources  for 
one  purpose  and  then  redirect  them  to  another  purpose;  however,  it  does  happen, 
especially  in  tough  budgetary  times  such  as  these.  If  we  are  to  be  the  most  efficient 
organization  possible  we  will  always  be  examining  workload  and  workload  priorities,  and 
address  some  of  the  critical  issues  by  redirecting  resources,  otherwise  the  Department 
would  annually  need  to  submit  hundreds  of  Budget  Change  Proposals  to  address 
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22.  Please  describe  how  salary  savings  from  vacant  positions  might  be  used 
or  redirected. 

Salary  savings  are  used  or  redirected  for  many  different  purposes  within  CDCR.  For 
example,  the  Department  has  run  a  deficit  for  the  past  several  years  due  to  unfunded 
overtime  costs.  In  large  part  that  deficit  is  funded  through  vacant  positions  in  other 
programs.  Outside  of  posted  positions  which  are  required  to  be  filled  every  day,  we  are 
only  funded  to  fill  95  percent  of  our  positions,  so  each  organization  has  to  carefully 
manage  its  budget  to  ensure  there  is  enough  funding  to  cover  their  filled  positions.  This 
fiscal  year  we  conducted  fiscal  reviews  with  each  operation  to  provide  some  savings  to 
fund  the  deficit,  which  included  reviewing  salary  savings.  Excess  salary  savings  were 
redirected  to  address  the  shortfall.  Given  the  increasingly  dire  revenue  situation  of  the 
State,  we  felt  it  was  incumbent  on  us  to  address  shortfalls  internally  and  not  submit  a 
deficit  request,  if  possible. 

Salary  Compaction 

In  the  past,  there  have  been  salary  compaction  issues  with  rank  and  file  personnel  and 
supervisor  classifications.  For  a  variety  of  reasons,  including  compensation  for  overtime, 
custody  officers  sometimes  earn  higher  salaries  than  the  lieutenants  and  captains  to 
whom  they  report.  As  a  result,  lower  ranking  officers  might  make  as  much  as,  if  not 
more  than,  their  supervisors.  As  of  March  1,  2007,  former  Secretary  Tilton  was  finally 
successful  in  increasing  the  pay  for  management  positions. 

23.  What  is  the  status  of  efforts  to  address  salary  compaction  in  the  field  and 
headquarters?  Is  there  still  a  fair  amount  of  variance  among  salaries  for 
senior  executives?  If  so,  should  this  variation  be  addressed  and  how? 

Recently,  DPA  excluded  salary  programs  that  have  attempted  to  ensure  a  minimum  of  a 
five  percent  salary  variance  between  rank  and  file  and  supervisory  custody 
classifications.  Currently,  no  compaction  exists  between  rank  and  file  and  supervisory 
classes.  Human  Resources  continues  to  monitor  salaries,  identify  compaction  issues, 
and  work  with  DPA  to  address  areas  of  concern  where,  and  when,  fiscally  possible. 

CDCR  continues  to  use  a  pay  differential,  established  in  January  2007,  to  address 
compaction  for  senior  executive  positions.  On  January  23,  2009,  CDCR  submitted  a 
request  to  DPA  to  continue  this  differential.  Although  the  request  is  pending  DPA 
approval,  DPA  has  allowed  CDCR  to  continue  its  use. 

24.  Deputy  commissioners  at  the  Board  of  Parole  Hearings  earn  $8436  monthly 
with  a  2.5%  safety  retirement  at  age  55  and  no  contribution  to  Social 
Security,  but  Associate  Chief  Deputy  Commissioners  who  supervise  the 
deputy  commissioners  earn  $8911  with  2.0%  retirement  at  age  60  and  pay 


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about  $500  monthly  into  Social  Security.  The  Rules  Committee  was  told  for 
some  time  that  this  issue  would  be  addressed  but  DPA  recently  rejected 
the  proposed  fix.  What  is  your  responsibility  for  addressing  this  specific 
problem  and  problems  like  this?  Why  would  someone  promote  to 
Associate  Chief  Deputy  Commissioner  given  this  circumstance? 

My  responsibility  to  address  compaction  and/or  recruitment  and  retention  problems 
when  identified  is  to  ensure  that  CDCR's  HR  works  with  the  affected  program  to 
develop  a  solid  justification  and  proposal  to  submit  to  DPA  for  consideration,  as  DPA 
has  full  oversight  and  approval  authority  of  the  State's  classification  and  compensation 
program.  Proposals  could  include  developing  new  classes,  revising  existing  pay 
structures,  recruitment/retention  differentials,  etc.  I  have  personally  spoken  with  DPA's 
Director  and  Chief  Deputy  Director  regarding  this  issue;  however,  in  light  of  the  current 
fiscal  situation,  it  has  been  difficult  to  obtain  approval  on  these  types  of  proposals..  I  will 
continue  to  work  with  DPA  to  seek  a  mutually  agreeable  solution. 

While  I  will  continue  to  seek  a  mutually  agreeable  solution  with  DPA  on  the  disparity 
between  the  retirement  systems  of  the  Deputy  Commissioners  and  the  Associate  Chief 
Deputy  Commissioners  (ACDC),  each  individual's  decision  to  promote  to  the  Associate 
Chief  Deputy  Commissioner  is  their  own  personal  decision.  Such  a  move  would  result 
in  a  5.6  percent  increase  in  salary  which  can  be  used  for  retirement  calculations. 
ACDC's  fall  under  the  industrial  retirement  category  (2.0  percent  at  55)  which  means 
they  will  pay  into  social  security  and  will  be  entitled  to  benefits. 

Personnel  and  Training 

The  California  Highway  Patrol  Commissioner  recently  told  this  committee  that  he 
established  a  new  position,  titled  Assistant  Commissioner  for  Leadership  Development, 
in  response  to  high  vacancy  rates  and  other  problems.  Your  office  of  Training  and 
Professional  Development  is  responsible  for  training  and  staff  development.  CDCR 
said  the  Richard  McGee  Training  Facility  in  Gait  falls  under  your  office. 

25.  Who  is  responsible  for  leadership  development  in  your  organization?  Are 
you  satisfied  with  the  quality  of  leadership  and  management  training 
available  to  CDCR  employees?  Where  is  improvement  needed? 

Secretary  Cate  is  ultimately  responsible  for  leadership  development  within  the 
organization.  Every  leader,  from  cabinet  level  to  line  managers  and  supervisors,  is 
expected  to  model  exemplary  leadership  practices  and  challenge  each  other  to  seek 
ways  to  change,  grow,  and  innovate.  Additionally,  every  manager  is  required  to  mentor 
and  develop  leadership  talents  in  their  staff. 

Our  HR,  Office  of  Training  and  Professional  Development,  is  responsible  for 
coordinating  CDCR's  leadership  training  program  and  collaborates  with  executive  level 


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managers  of  line  programs  and  affiliated  administrative  programs,  in  the  development  of 
policy  and  strategy  for  our  training  programs.  Our  Office  of  Workforce  Planning  and 
Selection  is  responsible  for  the  Department's  Succession  Management  Planning. 
Secretary  Cate  demonstrated  his  commitment  to  succession  planning  by  elevating  this 
office  to  the  policy  level,  dedicating  six  staff  to  this  function  and  establishing  a  CEA  to 
manage  it.  Our  goal  is  to  to  create  an  integrated  HR  System  for  all  of  our  HR 
processes  (Recruitment,  Selection,  manager/supervisor  training  and  performance 
management)  based  on  identified  managerial  core  competencies.  This  approach  will 
focus  on  strategic  objectives  aligned  with  an  integrated  competency  based  HR  system 
to  reach  organizational  priorities.  This  will  enable  CDCR  to  align  staffing  plans  with 
workforce  availability  and  the  critical  and  evolving  needs  of  our  mission.  This  includes 
identification  of  core  competencies  at  all  levels;  identification  of  workforce 
demographics,  gaps,  changing  program  requirements,  employee  development  needs 
and  associated  solutions  (such  as  a  possible  management  intern  program  and  other 
necessary  classification  changes),  associated  mentoring  programs,  knowledge  transfer 
programs,  and  employee  retention  strategies.  The  Office  of  Workforce  Planning  and 
Selection's  Succession  Management  Planning  Unit  works  in  conjunction  with  the  Office 
of  Training  and  Professional  Development  to  identify  training  needed  to  prepare  CDCRs 
workforce  for  succession  planning  efforts  (i.e.,  promotional  opportunities,  attrition,  etc.). 

Overall,  I  am  pleased  with  the  quality  of  the  programs  we  have  available  to  CDCR 
employees  for  leadership  and  management  training.  We  provide  two  major  training 
courses  for  management  and  leadership  development;  Management  Skills 
Development  Program  (MSDP)  and  the  Leadership  Development  Program  (LDP)  (more 
detail  in  the  question  below).  Evaluations  completed  by  participants  over  the  last  two 
years  consistently  give  high  ratings  to  the  course  material  as  well  as  the  instructors. 

I  am  satisfied  with  the  quality  of  our  offerings;  however,  I  am  not  satisfied  with  the 
quantity  of  available  classes.  Our  biggest  obstacle  to  delivering  this  training  to  CDCR 
employees  is  the  lack  of  dedicated  funding  for  these  programs.  Consequently,  we 
usually  cannot  schedule  enough  classes  to  meet  the  development  needs  of  staff  who 
make  up  our  existing  management  team,  nor  can  we  provide  sufficient  numbers  of 
classes  to  address  the  group  of  middle  managers  who  will  eventually  be  required  to 
step  into  these  leadership  positions.  I  plan  to  pursue  permanent  funding  for  these 
programs  as  the  fiscal  climate  improves. 

26.  Please  describe  as  specifically  as  possible  the  leadership  and  management 
training  currently  available,  how  frequently  it's  provided,  and  how  many 
staff  are  served?  When  was  the  last  time  each  component  of  the  training 
was  delivered  and  when  will  the  next  components  be  delivered?  How  will 
the  budget  crisis  impact  training? 

The  Department  currently  offers  four  leadership/management  development  courses,  as 
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Leadership  Development  Program 

The  LDP,  offered  in  partnership  with  the  Sonoma  Learning  Systems,  is  a  program 
designed  for  CDCR  leaders  that  enables  them  to  access  and  develop  their  leadership 
skills,  integrate  leadership  theory  and  practices,  and  address  critical  correctional 
professional  issues  confronting  CDCR.  This  course  includes  the  Leadership  Practices 
Inventory.  Eight  sessions  of  this  seven-day  course,  taught  over  a  three-month  period, 
are  scheduled  for  FY  2009-10  and  can  facilitate  up  to  25  staff  per  offering.  Due  to 
budget  constraints,  two  sessions  were  held  in  the  2008-09  fiscal  year.  The  last 
workshop  ended  April  8,  2009,  and  the  next  session  is  scheduled  for  August  4,  2009. 

Leadership  Challenge  Workshop 

The  Leadership  Challenge  Workshop  (LCW)  is  an  intensive,  highly  interactive  and 
stimulating  program  based  on  the  award-winning  book,  Leadership  Challenge.  The 
participants  are  exposed  to  concrete  tools  and  knowledge  necessary  for  them  to  be 
effective  leaders,  including  the  Leadership  Practices  Inventory.  This  two-day  workshop 
is  usually  offered  24  times  per  year  and  can  facilitate  up  to  24  staff  per  offering. 
However,  due  to  budget  constraints,  the  course  was  not  offered  in  the  2008-09  fiscal 
year.  The  last  workshop  was  September  27,  2007  and  will  resume  in  August  2009. 

Management  Skills  Development  Program 

The  Management  Skills  Development  Program  is  a  collaborative  effort  between  CDCR 
and  the  California  State  University,  Sacramento,  College  of  Continuing  Education.  The 
program  is  designed  to  provide  managers  with  40  hours  of  management  education  and 
40  hours  of  skill  enhancement  education.  Courses  include:  The  Proactive  Manager, 
Self-Awareness  &  Personal  Growth,  Communication,  Conflict  Management,  Critical 
Thinking  Skills,  Building  a  Collaborative  Environment,  Change  Management,  Coaching, 
Strategic  Implementation,  Measuring  Performance  Results  and  Real-World  Application. 
Ten  sessions  of  this  two-week  course  are  scheduled  for  FY  2009-10  and  can  facilitate 
up  to  25  staff  per  offering.  Due  to  budget  constraints,  one  session  was  held  in  the 
2008/09  fiscal  year.  The  last  workshop  ended  February  6,  2009,  and  the  next  session 
is  scheduled  for  August  17,  2009. 

California  Public  Safety  Leadership  and  Ethics 

This  widely-honored  and  recognized  program  utilizes  the  Phi  Theta  Kappa  International 
Honor  Society  Leadership  Development  Program®  as  a  foundational  component.  The 
program  is  designed  to  create  exceptional  leadership  throughout  public  safety 
organizations  with  a  design  that  has  individuals  develop  critical  thinking  skills  through 
increasingly  complex  learning  experiences.  Two  sessions  of  this  four-week  course  are 
scheduled  for  FY  2009-10  and  can  facilitate  up  to  20  staff  per  offering.    Due  to  budget 


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constraints,  the  course  was  not  offered  in  FY  2008-09.  The  last  workshop  was  held 
May  9,  2008,  and  the  next  session  is  scheduled  for  August  24,  2009. 

As  stated  above,  our  biggest  obstacle  to  delivering  this  training  is  the  lack  of  dedicated 
funding  for  these  programs.  While  funding  is  currently  available  for  FY  2009-10,  the 
budget  crisis  may  impede  our  ability  to  offer  all  planned  sessions.  As  the  fiscal  climate 
improves,  I  plan  to  pursue  permanent  funding  for  these  programs  to  ensure  our  leaders 
receive  the  training  needed  to  be  effective  leaders. 

27.  Who  is  responsible  for  following  up  on  ethics  training  in  general  and 
determining  whether  it  is  adequate? 

CDCR  provides  two  forms  of  ethics  training.  One  is  the  Ethics  Orientation  for  State 
Officials  which  is  required  by  Government  Code  Section  11146-11146.1.  CDCR  uses 
the  interactive  on-line  program  provided  by  the  Office  of  the  Attorney  General.  The 
training  coordinator  within  the  specific  division,  program,  or  institution  follows  up  with 
staff  who  are  required  to  take  the  training  as  part  of  the  annual  Form  700  filers  process. 

We  also  provide  ethics  training  as  part  of  several  of  our  ongoing  classes,  including: 

•  New  Employee  Orientation 

•  Adult  Correctional  Officer  Academy  (a  40-hour  module  on  ethics) 

•  Basic  Supervision 

•  California  Public  Safety  Leadership  and  Ethics  (CPSLE)  -  CPSLE  is  a  unique 
leadership  course  developed  with  input  from  the  public  safety  sector  that  focuses 
on  developing  a  personal  philosophy  of  leadership,  leading  others,  organizational 
leadership,  ethics,  and  the  challenge  of  leadership. 

•  Annual  Peace  Officer  training  as  published  in  the  Off-Post  Training  Schedule. 
We  include  a  refresher  course  via  an  on-the-job  training  module. 

As  with  all  our  training  programs,  we  have  participant  evaluations  that  are  carefully 
reviewed  by  a  team  of  evaluation  specialists  and  Department  stakeholders  to  determine 
whether  any  improvement  in  subject  matter  or  delivery  are  needed.  Corresponding 
course  or  curriculum  improvements  are  submitted  to  HR  for  approval  and  then 
implemented  in  the  respective  courses. 

28.  Who  is  responsible  for  following  up  on  the  360°  assessments  described  by 
Matt  Cate  in  his  confirmation  hearing?  When  an  employee  who  wants  to 
promote  is  told  what  additional  training  he  or  she  needs,  whose  job  is  it  to 
see  that  it's  provided? 

A  component  of  CDCR's  Succession  Management  Plan  (SMP)  is  to  conduct 
assessments  of  employees  participating  in  the  succession  program  to  evaluate  them  on 
their  readiness  to  succeed  to  the  next  level  in  their  promotional  path.  Based  on  the 
results  of  the  360°  Assessment,  the  SMP  Unit  will  identify  areas  of  development  that  are 


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required  in  order  for  the  employee  to  succeed  at  the  next  level  within  CDCR.  The  SMP 
Unit  will  assist  the  employee  and  his/her  manager  to  create  a  development  plan.  It  is 
the  joint  responsibility  of  the  employee  and  his/her  manager  to  ensure  the  employee 
completes  the  training  and  development  needed.  In  order  to  ensure  the  management 
and  leadership  training  meets  the  needs  of  CDCR,  performance  measures  have  been 
developed  to  track  identified  development  of  employees. 

29.  Prison  business  managers  typically  come  up  through  the  ranks.  They 
report  to  the  associate  warden  for  Business  Services.  What  sort  of  training 
is  provided  to  these  executives  who  become  responsible  for  managing 
hundreds  of  millions  of  dollars  in  public  funds. 

CDCR  does  not  currently  have  a  specific  training  program  designed  for  Correctional 
Business  Managers  (CBM).  The  training  they  receive  is  primarily  on-the-job  training  at 
the  local  institution  under  the  direction  of  the  local  associate  warden.  These  individuals 
are  also  eligible  to  attend  the  CDCR  Management  Skills  Development  Program  and  the 
Leadership  Development  Program. 

While  CDCR  does  not  have  a  formal  training  program  for  CBMs,  the  recruitment 
materials  specifically  state  that  experience  with  the  various  functions  is  needed  to  take 
the  exam.  This  includes  functions  they  are  responsible  for,  such  as  budgets,  personnel, 
contracts,  plant  operations,  etc. 

There  are  also  several  support/consultant  resources  available  in  headquarters  to  advise 
them,  including  the  Business  Manager  in  each  of  the  mission  offices  in  headquarters,  as 
well  as  the  technical  staff  in  Budgets,  Personnel,  Contracts,  etc.  Additionally,  personnel 
from  the  Budget  Management  Branch  work  closely  with  their  counterparts  in 
institutions.  This  fiscal  year  for  example,  each  institution  has  been  visited  by  their 
budget  analyst  to  work  on  position  reconciliation.  We  are  committed  to  headquarters' 
budget  staff  becoming  a  part  of  the  team  and  working  closely  with  institutional  staff  to 
ensure  better  cooperation  and  understanding.  In  the  past,  the  Office  of  Fiscal  Services 
has  also  held  fiscal  services  seminars  where  budget  and  accounting  staff  provide 
training  on  new  fiscal  systems  and  procedures  so  that  there  is  full  understanding  of 
fiscal  processes.  We  are  committed  to  developing  and  providing  a  robust  training 
process  to  ensure  that  all  staff  in  institutions  as  well  as  headquarters  are  provided  both 
formalized  and  on-the-job  training. 

30.  In  part  because  of  a  failure  in  leadership,  CDCR  medical  is  now  under  a 
federal  receivership.  Assuming  this  charge  will  eventually  come  back  to 
CDCR,  what  are  you  doing  in  terms  of  preparation  for  taking  inmate 
medical  care  back  from  the  federal  courts? 

My  primary  focus  is  in  the  Receiver's  administrative  programs.  Since  my  appointment,  I 
have  been  working  collaboratively  with  the  Receiver's  administrative  staff  regarding 


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many  issues  that  overlap.  In  addition,  both  entities  have  been  working  together  in  the 
implementation  of  BIS  and  in  the  SOMS  procurement.  Now  that  we  are  close  to 
signing  a  Memorandum  of  Understanding,  the  Receiver's  staff  and  my  staff  are 
collaborating  in  many  more  areas.  Weekly  meetings  are  held  with  various  program 
directors  and  the  executive  team  has  scheduled  monthly  meetings  to  coordinate 
activities.  I  am  working  with  the  Receiver's  staff  to  ensure  policies  currently  in 
development  are  either  identical,  or  at  least,  do  not  conflict  with  each  other.  A  good 
example  is,  we  have  been  working  together  to  develop  mutually  agreed  upon  alternative 
solutions  to  information  technology  purchases  the  Receiver  was  considering  which  are 
not  compatible  with  CDCR's  overall  enterprise  architecture. 

31.  How  many  new  officers  were  trained  in  2008,  and  how  many  do  you  expect 
to  enter  and  complete  the  academy  in  2009?  Previously,  there  were  efforts 
to  set  up  permanent  training  facilities  in  Southern  California  and  at 
community  colleges.  What  is  the  status? 

In  FY  2008-09,  1,230  new  correctional  officers  graduated  from  the  academies:  1,093 
Adult,  27  Juvenile,  and  110  Parole.  Due  to  the  fiscal  crises  and  potential  layoffs  only 
160  graduates  are  currently  planned  for  the  Adult  Correctional  Officer  Academy  in  FY 
2009-10  and  no  specific  total  number  of  graduates  for  parole  or  juvenile  have  been 
planned  at  this  time. 

With  regard  to  the  Southern  training  facility  and  agreements  with  community  colleges, 
these  options  were  being  explored  when  the  Department's  entry  level  peace  officer 
needs  exceeded  existing  capacity  for  academy  training.  Due  to  the  current  economic 
situation  and  the  decline  in  the  need  for  hiring  new  entry  level  peace  officers, 
the  Southern  California  academy  was  postponed  and  correspondingly,  no  agreements 
with  community  colleges  have  been  pursued. 

The  community  colleges  could  not  generate  the  cadet  numbers  without  CDCR 
underwriting  the  cost.  Additionally,  the  colleges  could  not  teach  approximately  50  to  60 
percent  of  our  curriculum  because  of  the  Department-specific  nature  of  the  content  and 
costs  of  our  tactical,  impact,  firearms,  and  chemical  agents.  Given  the  projected  low 
number  of  cadets  to  be  trained  in  the  foreseeable  future,  there  are  no  plans  to  pursue 
community  college  academies. 

Research 

In  2007  Mr.  Tilton  said  the  Office  of  Research  plays  a  major  role  in  the  department's 
vision  for  making  evidence-based  rehabilitation  a  major  part  of  the  mission  at  CDCR. 
At  the  time  of  the  CDCR  reorganization,  it  was  widely  recognized  that  CDCR  lacked 
research  capability.  The  reorganization  established  an  Office  of  Research  to  address 
this  weakness,  increasing  the  6  existing  staff  to  21,  and  adding  a  new  Assistant 
Secretary  of  Research.    In  the  department's  official  job  description,  you  are  responsible 


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for  overseeing  research.  However,  on  the  department's  organizational  chart,  the 
Assistant  Secretary  for  Research  reports  to  the  Secretary's  senior  policy  advisor. 

32.  Have  you  considered  contracting  with  a  major  public  university  to  oversee 
all  research  for  the  department?  What  would  be  the  pluses  and  minuses? 

I  understand  that  several  years  ago  when  the  Department  was  discussing  the  need  to 
reestablish  a  viable  Office  of  Research,  there  was  significant  discussion  about 
contracting  out  for  these  services  with  a  major  public  university.  Ultimately,  however,  it 
was  decided  that  the  most  critical  gap  in  terms  of  effective  research  was  the  internal 
capacity  to  collect  quality  data.  Most  of  the  positions  that  have  been  established  would 
still  be  needed  to  identify  data  sources,  determi_ne  the  quality  of  data,  and  develop  the 
methodology  to  gather  the  data  for  external  researchers.  Therefore,  it  would  be  an 
additional  expense  to  add  an  external  layer. 

However,  while  we  currently  do  not  contract  out  all  of  our  research  services,  the 
Department  does  use  contracts  with  public  universities,  i.e.,  the  University  of  California 
at  Irvine  (UCI)  and  Davis  (UCD)  along  with  several  of  the  California  State  University 
campuses  to  maximize  our  resource  and  enhance  capacity.  For  example,  UCD  is 
currently  conducting  research  projects  on  wraparound  services  to  adult  offenders, 
recidivism  rates,  and  a  follow-up  study  on  "Enhancing  Prison  Treatment  of  Women." 
UCI  previously  researched  and  provided  evaluation  of  our  parole  violations  decision 
making  instrument,  prepared  the  California  Static  Risk  Assessment  Report,  and 
provided  analysis  of  violation  and  adult  parolee  risks. 


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California  Natural  Resources  Agency 


ARNOLD  SCHWARZENEGGER^  Governor 


DEPARTMENT  OF  FISH  AND  GAME 

Office  of  Spill  Prevention  and  Response 
1700  K.  Street,  Ste  250 
Sacramento,  California  95811 
Telephone:  (916)445-9338 
www.dfq.ca.gov 


June  9,  2009 


DONALD  KOCH,  Director 


(Responses 


The  Honorable  Darrell  Steinberg,  Chair 

Attn:  Nettie  Sabelhaus,  Appointments  Director 

Senate  Rules  Committee 

State  Capitol,  Room  420 

Sacramento,  CA  95814 

Dear  Senator  Steinberg: 

Thank  you  for  the  opportunity  to  address  your  questions  and  to  share  with  you  my 
goals  as  administrator  for  the  Department  of  Fish  and  Game,  Office  of  Spill 
Prevention  and  Response  (OSPR).  It  is  an  honor  to  have  been  chosen  by  Governor 
Arnold  Schwarzenegger  to  serve  OSPR  in  the  protection  of  California's  natural 
resources.  I  bring  to  this  job  an  understanding  of  both  OSPR  and  the  Department  of 
Fish  and  Game.  My  28  years  experience  in  wildlife  law  enforcement  with  state  and 
federal  agencies  gives  me  a  unique  perspective  of  the  importance  of  protecting  our 
natural  treasures.  I  truly  understand  the  magnitude  of  responsibility  that 
accompanies  this  position  and  am  grateful  for  the  opportunity  should  the  Senate 
choose  to  confirm  me. 


Statement  of  Goals 

1.      What  do  you  hope  to  accomplish  during  your  tenure  as  administrator  of  OSPR? 

The  Office  of  Spill  Prevention  and  Response  (OSPR)  is  the  premiere  spill  prevention 
and  response  organization  in  the  nation.  During  my  tenure  as  administrator,  I  will 
continue  our  work  with  state,  federal,  local  and  industry  partners  as  well  as  the 
environmental  community  to  ensure  the  highest  standards  in  environmental 
protection  for  California's  natural  resources.  My  goals  as  administrator  include 
increasing  coordination  with  local  governments;  improving  wildlife  response; 
improving  timeliness  and  quality  of  public  outreach;  evaluating  best  achievable 
technologies  for  spill  prevention  and  response;  and  enhancing  staff  readiness  for 
spill  response. 

Currently,  OSPR  is  working  to  implement  new  techniques  and  response 
mechanisms  that  came  out  of  the  MA/  Cosco  Busan  oil  spill. 


Conserving  CaCifornia's  WiCcCCife  Since  1870 


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External  and  internal  reviews  of  our  response  identified  the  need  for  enhanced 
efforts  by  OSPR  to  increase  local  government  and  volunteer  participation,  address 
fisheries  closures,  shorten  response  times,  increase  wildlife  recovery  efforts,  and 
increase  drill  participation  and  oversight.  OSPR  is  working  hard  to  make  these 
improvements.  I  will  provide  leadership  and  guidance  to  OSPR  while  implementing 
these  positive  and  important  changes  to  our  response  mechanisms. 


Inland  Pollution  Program 

In  2007  Ms.  Curtis,  the  previous  administrator,  told  the  Senate  Rules  Committee  that 
85  percent  of  spills  the  office  responded  to  were  in  the  inland  areas,  and  many  were 
chemical  and  pesticide  spills.  At  that  time,  she  said  that  statutory  authority  was 
needed  for  the  inland  program,  and  she  also  wanted  the  ability  to  assess  certain 
fines  and  penalties.  She  indicated  that  additional  staff  was  also  needed.  The 
Legislature  passed  a  bill,  AB  291 1  (Wolk),  Chapter  565,  Statutes  of  2008,  that 
extends  the  office's  ability  to  oversee  cleanup  of  inland  spills  and  impose  penalties 
similar  to  those  of  marine  spills. 

2.  Did  the  recent  legislation,  AB  2911,  provide  your  office  with  sufficient  authority 
to  effectively  deal  with  inland  spills?  Are  chemical  and  pesticide  spills 
adequately  addressed? 

AB  291 1  (Wolk),  Chapter  565,  Statutes  of  2008  gave  us  three  important  new 
authorities  in  addressing  inland  oil  spills  including:  clear  response  and  command 
authority,  cost  recovery  authority,  and  the  ability  to  levy  administrative  civil  penalties 
for  intentional  or  negligent  acts.  In  implementing  our  new  authorities,  OSPR  is 
collating  data,  including  chemical  and  pesticide  spills,  in  our  Incident  Tracking 
Database.  The  collection  of  this  data  will  allow  us  to  evaluate  workload  and  trends  to 
help  us  better  define  our  future  needs.  We  anticipate  completing  this  analysis  on 
workload,  including  funding  and  staffing  gaps,  for  inland  spill  response  in  late  FY 
10/11.  The  results  of  this  analysis  will  be  presented  to  Administration  officials  for  the 
planning  of  OSPR's  future  needs.  Additionally,  OSPR  has  promulgated  regulations 
to  implement  administrative  civil  penalties  for  inland  oil  spills.  These  regulations  will 
be  effective  June  13. 

3.  What  additional  authority  do  you  believe  your  office  needs  to  effectively  deal 
with  inland  or  marine  spills? 

OSPR  is  a  part  of  the  Department  of  Fish  and  Game  (Department).   I  believe  the 
Department  and  OSPR  have  the  necessary  authority  to  address  marine  and  inland 
oil  spills.  Director  Koch  and  I  are  not  seeking  any  additional  authority. 


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Succession  Planning  in  the  Office  of  Oil  Spill  Prevention  and  Response 

Many  state  agencies  have  realized  that  a  significant  number  of  middle  and  senior 
management  personnel  already  have  or  will  soon  become  eligible  for  retirement.  In  a 
letter  to  the  Rules  Committee  last  year,  Ms.  Curtis  said  that  61  percent  of  the  middle 
and  senior  management  staff  of  your  office  are  or  will  be  eligible  for  retirement  within 
five  years. 

4.      Does  your  office  have  a  succession  plan  in  place?  If  so,  please  describe  the 
major  points  of  that  plan. 

Succession  planning  is  addressed  in  the  Department's  Leadership  Development  and 
Succession  Plan  that  was  published  in  October  2007.  This  plan  delineates  a 
succession  planning  program  that  ensures  leadership  continuity  in  key  positions 
through  employee  recruitment,  training,  job  rotation,  job  shadowing,  mentoring,  and 
close  collaboration  between  employees  and  their  supervisors  and  managers.  The 
plan  lays  out  strategies  to  meet  the  following  goals: 

•  Promote  core  leadership  competencies; 

•  Provide  traditional  training  and  development  opportunities  to  enable 
employees  to  acquire  the  competencies  necessary  to  fill  leadership 
positions; 

•  Encouragement  by  managers  and  supervisors  for  employees  to  explore 
non-traditional  training  and  development  opportunities; 

•  Expand  the  Department's  recruitment  and  retention  efforts; 

•  Provide  employees,  managers,  and  supervisors  with  an  employee 
development  toolkit;  and 

•  Encourage  employee  career  development  toward  core  competencies 
through  the  use  of  Individual  Development  Plans. 

In  addition,  the  Department  has  an  established  Upward  Mobility  Program  designed 
to  assist  employees  in  entry  level  occupations  to  achieve  their  highest  career 
potential.  This  program  assists  us  in  our  efforts  to  maintain  a  well-qualified,  diverse 
workforce  by  increasing  the  number  of  individuals  available  to  hire  into  entry, 
technical,  professional,  and  administrative  positions. 

At  OSPR,  specifically  over  the  past  few  years,  we  have  weathered  the  loss  of  key 
long-term  employees.  As  an  organization  built  upon  leadership  and  ownership,  we 
pride  ourselves  on  a  program  that  allows  and  encourages  continuous  development 
to  prepare  our  employees  to  assume  leadership  roles  during  normal  operations  as 
well  as  during  spill  emergencies.  I  have  found  this  approach  prepares  staff  to  fill 
supervisory  and  management  roles  within  OSPR  as  positions  become  vacant. 


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Cosco  Busan  Oil  Spill  and  Response 

On  November  6,  2007,  the  merchant  vessel  Cosco  Busan  sideswiped  a  tower  of  the 
San  Francisco  Bay  Bridge  and  spilled  over  53,000  gallons  of  bunker  fuel  into  the 
bay.  A  Coast  Guard  report  on  the  incident  outlined  the  bad  luck  and  human  error 
that  caused  confusion  and  misinformation.  The  spill  blackened  69  miles  of  shoreline 
and  killed  more  than  1,600  birds  from  Oakland  to  San  Francisco,  and  along  beaches 
from  Marin  to  San  Mateo  counties. 

An  official  from  your  office  who  specialized  in  measuring  the  size  of  oil  spills  was 
within  one  mile  of  the  spill,  but  could  not  get  to  the  damaged  ship  for  two  hours  and 
twenty  minutes  because  there  was  no  boat  to  take  him. 

The  Coast  Guard  report  also  recommended  that: 

■  OSPR  determine  what  technologies  or  operational  methods  are  available  and 
should  be  incorporated  into  contingency  plans,  using  best  available  technology 
and  best  available  protection; 

■  the  California  Wildlife  Response  Plan  be  revised  and  OSPR  should  consider 
developing  an  inventory  of  equipment  that  is  pre-deployed  and  available  for 
dedicated  use  in  wildlife  response; 

■  information  flow  to  the  media  and  public  regarding  an  oil  spill  and  the  response 
be  improved; 

■  the  use  of  "scripted  responses"  to  certain  scenarios  be  explored; 

■  reconnaissance  teams  should  include  trained  OSPR  personnel  with  local 
knowledge. 

5.      Would  you  please  discuss  the  actions  your  office  has  taken  in  response  to  the 
Cosco  Busan  oil  spill  and  the  Coast  Guard's  Incident  Specific  Preparedness 
Review?  What  recommendations  made  by  the  Coast  Guard's  report  have  your 
office  adopted? 

The  MA/  Cosco  Busan  spill  response  by  OSPR,  federal,  state,  local  government  and 
private  contractors  was  immediate  and  aggressive.  Within  90  minutes  of  the 
incident,  the  oil  spill  response  organizations  on-scene  recovery  capability  of  1.5 
million  gallons.  The  total  on-water  recovery  capability  on  scene  within  six  hours  was 
more  than  2.4  million  gallons. 

OSPR's  oil  recovery  and  cleanup  operations  in  and  around  the  San  Francisco  Bay 
continued  for  months  following  the  accident.  Recovery  rates  of  oil  well  exceeded 
industry  norms.  Forty  three  percent  (43%)  of  the  oil  spilled  into  the  bay  was 
recovered.  By  comparison,  on  July  23,  2008,  a  collision  between  a  barge  and  tanker 
resulted  in  250,000  gallons  of  fuel  oil  discharged  into  the  Mississippi  River  near 
downtown  New  Orleans.  This  spill  resulted  in  the  closure  of  river  traffic  and 
disruption  of  commerce  for  weeks.  Less  than  12  percent  of  the  fuel  oil  was 
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In  response  to  the  spill,  Governor  Schwarzenegger  took  immediate  action,  launching 
a  full  state  investigation  into  the  causes  of  and  response  to  the  spill.  That 
investigation  led  to  adoption  of  new  guidance  in  the  San  Francisco  Harbor  Safety 
Plan  for  mariners  operating  in  reduced  visibility  in  the  San  Francisco  Bay.  It  also  led 
to  increased  local  assistance  funding  by  OSPR  for  local  government  response 
training  and  equipment.  OSPR  funded  $650,000  in  grants  for  local  government. 
Additionally,  OSPR  funded  improvements  in  the  Physical  Oceanographic  Real  Time 
System  (PORTS),  a  real  time  system  that  measures  water  levels,  tide,  current, 
salinity,  and  meteorological  data  for  the  channels,  harbors  and  bays.  These 
improvements  support  safe  navigation,  spill  response,  search  and  rescue  operations 
in  the  San  Francisco  Bay. 

In  addition,  the  Governor  called  upon  lawmakers  to  examine  possible  policy  changes 
to  prevent  oil  spills  from  occurring  in  the  future.  The  Administration  worked  closely 
with  the  Legislature  to  enact  comprehensive  legislation  to  improve  California's  inland 
and  marine  oil  spill  prevention  and  response  activities. 

In  the  year  and  a  half  since  the  Cosco  Busan  oil  spill,  OSPR  has  proactively 
addressed  issues  identified  through  internal  and  external  reviews,  such  as  the  Coast 
Guard's  Incident  Specific  Preparedness  Review  (ISPR)  and  the  National 
Transportation  Safety  Board  investigations. 

Highlights  of  actions  we  have  undertaken  include: 

•  Promulgated  regulations  to  reduce  response  times  from  6  to  4  hours  in  high- 
volume  ports  (San  Francisco  Bay  and  Los  Angeles/Long  Beach),  effective 
July  1,2009; 

•  Promulgated  regulations  to  require  containment  boom  deployment  within  2 
hours  near  identified  oil  pollution  risk  areas  in  high-volume  ports,  effective 
July  1,2009; 

•  Following  participation  in  the  Area  Committees  in  California,  reviewed  and 
incorporated  ISPR  recommendations  into  Area  Contingency  Plans; 

•  Created  a  decision  matrix  tool  for  prioritization  of  protection  of 
environmentally  sensitive  sites,  and  incorporated  this  tool  into  revised  Area 
Contingency  Plans; 

•  Increased  involvement  of  local  government  by  assisting  in  the  development  of 
local  contingency  plans,  and  providing  spill  response  training  and  equipment 
grants.   In  addition,  amended  the  San  Francisco  Area  Contingency  Plan  to 
provide  for  local  government  representation  in  the  Unified  Command. 

•  Expanded  and  improved  wildlife  recovery  and  transport  protocols  through  the 
development  and  delivery  of  wildlife  response  training  to  volunteers,  thereby 
increasing  the  pool  of  available  wildlife  responders.   Increased  Oiled  Wildlife 
Care  Network  staffing  to  support  expanded  volunteer  capabilities.  In  addition, 
we  revised  the  California  Wildlife  Response  Plan; 


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•  Began  developing  a  spill  specific  website  designed  to  address  questions  and 
the  information  needs  of  the  public,  including  information  on  events,  news 
updates,  and  volunteer  and  wildlife  information.  The  site  will  be  accessible  by 
October  1 ,  2009; 

•  Initiated  a  review  of  the  best  achievable  technology  for  spill  prevention  and 
response.  Utilizing  experts  from  OSPR,  industry,  government,  and  non- 
government organizations,  OSPR  will  issue  a  comprehensive  report  by  the 
end  of  2009; 

•  In  response  to  passage  of  AB  2935  (Chapter  564,  Statutes  of  2008),  the 
Department,  in  consultation  with  the  Office  of  Environmental  Health  Hazard 
Assessment,  developed  a  detailed  protocol  for  closing  fisheries  during  marine 
oil  spills; 

•  Doubled  OSPR's  participation  in  industry  drills  since  the  Cosco  Busan 
incident; 

•  Developed  standard  spill  quantification  protocols  to  provide  consistency  in 
calculating  spill  volumes  during  responses;  and 

•  Purchased  and  pre-positioned  a  new  all-weather  response  vessel  on  the  San 
Francisco  Bay  capable  of  transporting  personnel  -  even  during  periods  of  low 
visibility. 


Oil  Spill  Prevention  and  Response  Fund 

Several  years  ago,  the  Department  of  Finance  reported  that  the  balance  in  the  Oil 
Spill  Prevention  and  Response  Fund  was  $40  million.  When  the  former  administrator 
appeared  before  the  Senate  Rules  Committee,  the  balance  was  down  to  $15  million. 

6.      What  is  your  assessment  of  the  sustainability  of  the  Oil  Spill  Prevention  and 
Response  Fund? 

As  OSPR  Administrator  I  am  responsible  for  two  distinctly  different  funds:  the  Oil 
Spill  Response  Trust  Fund  (OSRTF)  and  the  Oil  Spill  Prevention  and  Administration 
Fund  (OSPAF).  The  OSRTF  funds  response  activities  during  an  oil  spill  while  the 
OSPAF  funds  normal  staff  activities,  including  prevention  and  readiness  absent  a 
response. 

The  OSRTF  is  adequate  and  stable  with  a  statutorily  mandated  balance  of  $54 
million.  Expenditures  from  the  OSRTF  have  been  adequately  reimbursed  from  the 
responsible  parties  and  the  federal  Oil  Spill  Liability  Trust  Fund. 

A  review  of  OSPAF  fund  condition  statements  does  not  reflect  a  $40  million  fund 
balance  as  stated  in  the  question.   From  FY  05/06  to  the  current  year,  expenditures 
charged  to  the  OSPAF  have  risen  dramatically.   For  example,  OSPAF  funding  for 
the  State  Lands  Commission  has  increased  by  over  $3  million  dollars  per  year  for 
the  Marine  Oil  Terminal  Engineering  and  Maintenance  Standards  Program  and  the 


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Offshore  Platform  Safety  Program.  The  OSPAF's  support  for  local  assistance 
activities  has  also  increased  by  more  than  $1.2  million  as  a  result  of  the  PORTS 
system  and  other  improvements  supported  by  Governor  Schwarzenegger  in  the 
aftermath  of  the  Cosco  Busan.  Finally,  as  a  result  of  the  enactment  of  AB  2935,  the 
OSPAF  also  now  funds  the  Office  of  Environmental  Health  Hazard  Assessment  at 
$125,000  to  support  new  fishery  closure  mandates. 

The  projected  FY  08/09  year-end  balance  is  $11  million  dollars.  In  FY  06/07 
revenues  and  expenditures  were  in  alignment.  With  the  identification  of  prudent  and 
responsible  spending  adjustments  the  OSPAF  is  projected  to  have  a  positive 
balance  at  the  end  of  FY  10/11. 

7.      What  revenue  enhancements  or  spending  reductions  would  you  recommend,  if 
any? 

Existing  OSPAF  revenues  combined  with  specific  spending  reductions  are  sufficient 
to  finance  core  activities  funded  by  OSPAF.  OSPR  receives  revenues  from  a  per- 
barrel-fee  on  imported  oil  and  a  non-tank  vessel  fee.  Increasing  these  fees  at  this 
time  would  have  a  negative  impact  on  California's  consumers,  who  would  ultimately 
have  to  shoulder  these  increased  costs.     Rather,  OSPR  recognizes  the  need  to 
reduce  spending  during  this  economic  downturn  without  compromising  its  critical 
responsibilities  to  serve  as  both  the  state's  major  pollution  response  authority  and 
public  trustee  authority  for  wildlife  and  habitat. 

As  such,  with  a  goal  of  ensuring  and  maintaining  a  prudent  reserve  in  the  OSPAF  by 
the  end  of  FY  10/11,  OSPR  is  currently  actively  engaged  in  identifying  and 
implementing  prudent  and  responsible  spending  reductions  while  ensuring  that  we 
continue  to  meet  the  our  core  mission  to  provide  the  best  achievable  protection  of 
California's  natural  resources. 

In  conclusion,  as  reflected  in  my  responses,  I  understand  the  serious  challenges 
faced  by  OSPR  and  have  undertaken  ambitious  initiatives  to  improve  our 
organization.   I  do  not  take  these  issues  lightly,  but  again  am  absolutely  confident 
that  OSPR  will  be  successful  in  meeting  our  goals  and  being  as  prepared  as 
possible  for  any  challenges  the  future  holds. 

Also,  enclosed  you  will  find  my  updated  Form  700,  Statement  of  Economic  Interest. 

Sincerely, 


Stephen  L.  Edinger 


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cc:       Hon.  Sam  Aanestad 
Hon.  Gilbert  Cedillo 
Hon.  Robert  Dutton 
Hon.  Jenny  Oropeza 

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Responses  from  Frances  Spivy-Weber  to  Senate  Rules  Committee  Questions 
Regarding  State  Water  Resources  Control  Board,  6/29/09 

Statement  of  Goals: 

1a.  Since  March  2007,  my  most  significant  accomplishment  as  a  member  of  the 
board  has  been  to  help  the  Board  and  staff  begin  to  take  a  leadership  role  in 
improving  and  protecting  water  quality  by  integrating  water  quality  and  local 
water  supply  policies  and  programs.  My  focus  is  on  water  recycling  policy,  water 
conservation,  and  urban  stormwater  and  dry  weather  runoff  use/reuse.  These 
are  now  included  in  the  State  Water  Board's  strategic  plan  and  Bay-Delta  plan, 
both  adopted  in  2008;  AB32  water/energy  implementation  measures,  adopted  by 
the  Air  Board  December  2007,  and  directly  in  the  Water  Board's  water  recycling 
policy,  adopted  February  2009. 

I  have  demonstrated  leadership  in  fostering  successful  interagency  collaboration 
on  water-related  climate  issues,  particularly  mitigation  and  to  a  lesser  extent 
adaptation,  and  on  water  conservation  actions  to  meet  a  statewide  20% 
reduction  of  water  use  by  2020  goal.  The  latter  is  still  a  work  in  progress. 

As  the  only  Southern  California  member  of  the  Water  Board,  I  am  regularly 
available  to  the  many  and  varied  stakeholders  in  the  region,  discussing  up- 
coming policies,  providing  advice  and  guidance  on  how  to  work  with  the  Water 
Board,  and  on  special  occasions  providing  funding  for  high  priority  water  quality 
projects.  I  also  keep  three  Regional  Boards — Los  Angeles,  San  Diego,  and  the 
Central  Coast — up-to-date  on  State  Board  policies  and  activities. 

I  am  most  proud  of  the  Board's  new  emphasis  on  making  sure  low  income  urban 
and  rural  communities  receive  a  fair  chance  to  benefit  from  water  quality  funding, 
though  all  the  Board  members  should  get  credit  for  developing  and  implementing 
the  policy. 

1  b.  Over  the  next  3  V2  years,  I  want  to  see  measurable  water  quality 
improvements  and  water  supply  enhancements  associated  with  the  local  water 
quality/water  supply  planning  and  policy  efforts  of  the  Board.  To  do  this,  there 
will  have  to  be  a  marked  improvement  in  water  supply  and  water  quality  data 
collection;  clearer  criteria  for  determining  the  water  quality  value  of  water  supply 
actions;  and  a  will  on  the  part  of  the  Water  Board  to  enforce  its  policy  to  control 
waste  and  unreasonable  use  of  water. 

By  the  end  of  my  tenure,  I  expect  to  have  played  an  important  role  in  developing 
a  new  Bay-Delta  Water  Quality  Plan.  My  measure  of  success  will  be  a  plan  with 
strong  protections  for  the  environment,  greater  operations  transparency,  more 
flexibility  for  wildlife  and  water  managers  to  balance  flows  to  meet  competing 
beneficial  uses  and  to  adapt  to  climate-related  changes  in  water  supply  and 
water  quality,  and  a  prominent  place  for  water  recycling,  water  conservation,  and 

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stormwater  use  as  replacement  supplies  for  urban  and  agricultural  users  as  well 
as  flows  for  fish  and  recreation.   In  2010,  the  Board  should  adopt  flow  standards 
for  the  San  Joaquin  and  salinity  standards  for  the  South  Delta. 
By  January  201 1  or  before,  water/energy  climate  measures  will  begin  to  be 
implemented,  and  by  then  the  State  should  have  in  place  a  web-based,  easy  to 
use  method  for  collecting  statewide  and  regional  water  use  data  by  source — 
imported,  recycled,  stormwater,  ocean  desalination,  groundwater — and  the 
related  energy  embedded  in  that  water  use. 

2.  State  recycled  water  goals  are  ambitious,  but  not  impossible  to  achieve.  Key 
elements  to  reaching  these  goals  include  the  following:  regional  planning  with 
stakeholders  to  determine  where  water  recycling  will  work  best;  improved 
regional  monitoring;  implementation  of  guidance  from  the  Board's  Blue  Ribbon 
Task  Force  on  constituents  of  emerging  concern;  management  of  recycled  water 
in  conjunction  with  stormwater  capture  and  use;  and  joint  programs  with  the 
Department  of  Public  Health  to  ensure  strong  public  confidence  in  water  quality 
as  recycled  water  use  increases. 

It  took  much  longer  than  I  expected  to  adopt  the  Board's  recycled  water  policy. 
Recycled  water  purveyors  did  not  see  the  need  for  strict  controls  from  Regional 
Boards  who  had  very  little  practical  experience  with  recycled  water  and  water 
quality  advocates  did  not  want  to  see  Clean  Water  Act  safeguards  weakened  to 
make  it  easer  to  use  recycled  water.  When  a  group  of  stakeholders  offered  to  try 
to  bridge  this  divide,  the  Board  decided  that  a  delay  was  worth  the  multiple 
benefits  that  would  come  from  a  policy  that  had  broad  support,  and  while  the 
Board  later  added  important  components,  we  used  over  90%  of  what  the 
stakeholders  delivered.  The  key  to  the  success  of  this  approach  was  strong 
stakeholder  desire  to  have  a  statewide  policy,  the  positive  experience  with 
recycled  water  of  one  environmental  stakeholder,  and  recognition  by  purveyors 
that  greater  trust  had  to  be  built  with  environmental  advocates. 

3.  As  the  co-Chair  of  the  Water  Energy  Team  of  the  Climate  Action  Team  (WET 
CAT),  the  Board  has  secured  support  from  multiple  state  agencies  and 
stakeholders  for  the  six  climate  measures  in  the  AB32  scoping  document.  The 
Board  is  the  lead  on  two  measures  that  are  also  important  in  adaptation  to 
climate  change:   recycled  water  and  urban  water  reuse.   In  addition,  Board  staff 
co-chair  the  water  conservation  initiative  to  reduce  potable  water  use  20%  by 
2020,  which  is  also  a  mitigation  and  adaptation  climate  measure. 

As  part  of  its  strategic  plan,  the  State  Board  is  developing  a  guide  for  Regional 
Boards  on  ways  to  incorporate  climate  change  considerations  into  its  water 
quality  and  water  rights  work.  The  State  and  Regional  Board  roundtables  that 
meet  several  times  each  year  are  identifying  specific  recommendations  for 
permitting  and  monitoring  requirements  that  will  need  to  change.  At  the  same 
time,  Board  staff  serves  on  the  State  Water  Plan  steering  committee,  where 
climate  change  is  beginning  to  be  incorporated  into  statewide  long  term  planning. 


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The  Water  Board  is  one  of  five  agencies  supporting  the  development  of  a 
National  Academy  of  Science  study  on  sea  level  rise,  as  part  of  the  State's 
adaptation  response  to  climate  change.  We  have  committed  to  Resources,  the 
lead  on  the  State's  adaptation  planning,  to  develop  the  water  quality  and  water 
rights  elements,  using  our  work  with  the  Regional  Boards. 

While  I  have  heard  criticisms  of  the  Board  getting  diverted  by  climate  change 
from  its  real  mission  of  improving  water  quality,  my  response  is  that  climate 
change  is  not  only  the  central  in  the  near  and  longer  term  to  achieving  water 
quality  and  appropriately  allocating  water  rights,  but  the  uncertainty  of  climate 
change  threats  also  offers  opportunities  to  re-shape  these  regulatory  programs  to 
do  a  better  job. 

4.  The  Board's  Recycled  Water  Policy  lay  the  foundation  for  the  Southern 
California  Coastal  Water  Research  project  (SCCWRP)  recent  selection  of  a  Blue 
Ribbon  Expert  Advisory  Panel  of  six  scientists  with  six  specialties  in  constituents 
of  emerging  concern  (CECs).  The  panel  will  hold  its  first  meeting  in  September 
and  will  produce  a  report  by  the  middle  of  next  year,  answering  key 
environmental  and  human  health  questions  about  what  to  monitor,  levels  of 
treatment  needed,  indicators  for  suites  of  chemicals  of  concern,  and  triggers  for 
monitoring  and  more  aggressive  protection  responses. 

Several  Regional  Boards  and  local/regional  academic  groups  have  done  studies 
on  CECs  and  have  begun  to  develop  policy  recommendations  for  managing 
CECs.  The  State  Board's  Blue  Ribbon  Panel  is  expected  to  help  the  Boards  and 
the  Department  of  Public  Health  establish  a  statewide  CEC  policy  to  focus  future 
monitoring,  research,  and  regulatory  actions  that  are  consistent  and  protective  of 
the  public. 

5.  I  had  high  hooes  for  the  array  of  agencies  and  stakeholders  responsible  for 
various  aspects  of  ocean  and  coastal  species  and  water  quality  protection 
developing  and  implementing  joint  programs  through  the  Ocean  Protection 
Council.  While  this  has  occurred,  there  are  barriers.  The  State  and  coastal 
Regional  Boards  have  a  lot  to  offer.  They  invest  significant  resources  in  beach 
protection,  ocean/coastal  water  quality  monitoring,  and  the  State  enforces  Ocean 
Plan  rules  governing  Areas  of  Special  Biological  Significance  (ASBS). 

The  Council's  governance  structure,  while  envisioned  to  have  a  strong  steering 
committee  of  ocean,  coastal  agencies,  never  developed  that  committee,  and 
instead  relied  primarily  on  quarterly  meetings  and  stakeholder  non-binding 
resolutions  to  guide  cooperative  actions.  This  resulted  in  making  the  Boards 
simply  another  stakeholder  among  many,  with  no  real  mechanism  or  incentive  for 
extra  collaboration.    In  addition,  much  of  the  Council's  actions  are  in  re-granting 
bond  funds  to  projects  and  studies,  and,  while  helpful  to  some  Board  priorities, 
does  not  seem  to  be  a  unique  value  added.  I  have  not  given  up,  and  we  are 


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active  participants  in  OPC  meetings  and  contribute  to  the  agenda,  but  the  hill  is 
steeper  than  I  thought  it  would  be. 

We  are  very  active  in  the  Ocean  Science  Trust,  which  provides  science  support 
to  the  OPC  and  with  other  science  research  organizations.  We  also  work  closely 
with  the  Department  of  Public  Health  on  beach  water  quality  monitoring.  This 
year  we  also  provided  additional  funding  for  DPH  to  do  this  job. 

Once  Through  Cooling  is  an  extremely  controversial  issue,  and  Jon  Bishop  and 
his  ocean  staff  have  used  this  controversy  to  engage  a  working  group  of  state 
energy  agencies  to  advise  us  on  how  to  protect  the  State's  energy  grid,  while  the 
Board  addresses  the  need  to  reduce  ocean  wildlife  impacts  from  coastal  power 
plants.  By  most  reports,  the  on-going  collaboration  is  successful,  and  the 
Board's  once-through-cooling  policy  will  be  out  for  public  comment  very  soon. 

The  State  Water  Board  has  also  been  represented  on  the  Marine  Life  Protection 
Act  (MLPA)  Master  Plan  Science  Advisory  Team  and  is  currently  assisting  the 
MLPA  effort  in  the  South  Coast  Study  Region. 

6.   Ideally,  the  State  Water  Board  would  have  policies  to  guide  all  regional 
permitting,  but  that  is  not  the  case.  Since  my  letter  to  Rules  in  August  2007,  the 
State  Board  has  adopted  the  Water  Recycling  Policy,  a  Compliance  Schedule 
Policy  for  National  Pollution  Discharge  Elimination  System  (NPDES)  permits,  and 
an  Enforcement  Policy  governing  Supplemental  Environmental  Projects.  This 
year  we  expect  to  adopt  a  Once-Through-Cooling  policy,  a  General  Permit  for 
Landscape  Irrigation  Uses  of  Municipal  Recycled  Water,  the  balance  of  the 
Enforcement  Policy,  and  the  General  Stormwater  Permit  for  Construction  and 
Long  Linear  projects.  The  trend  is  good;  the  list  of  policies  to  be  tackled  is  long. 

The  State  Board  has  just  entered  into  an  agreement  with  USEPA  to  develop 
options  for  a  statewide  trash  Total  Maximum  Daily  Loads  (TMDL),  based  on  the 
Los  Angeles  Water  Board's  trash  TMDL.   If  this  is  successful,  we  will  move  to 
other  permit  templates  that  can  be  used  statewide,  such  as  one  for  hydro 
modification  in  Phase  II  Small  Municipal  Storm  Sewer  System  (MS4)  permits. 
Again,  the  trend  is  good,  but  it  will  take  commitment  over  a  number  of  years. 

There  has  been  some  progress  in  developing  stronger  relationships  with  the 
regional  boards,  but  at  the  end  of  the  day,  there  are  nine  Regional  Board  staffs 
that  answer  to  their  own,  independent  local  Boards,  and  the  carrots  and  sticks  for 
promoting  statewide  consistency  are  limited.  There  is  great  diversity  among  the 
Boards,  too.  A  few  are  quite  large  and  extremely  busy;  others  are  less  so.  This 
makes  fairness  issues,  such  as  budget  cuts,  among  the  Boards  challenging. 

Currently  I  attend  three  regional  board  meetings  monthly — Los  Angeles,  San 
Diego,  and  the  Central  Coast.  With  Chair  Charlie  Hoppin  and  Executive  Director, 
Dorothy  Rice,  I  meet  monthly  by  phone  with  all  of  the  Regional  Board  chairs  to 


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discuss  broad  issues  of  common  concern,  such  as  budgets;  and  I  have  been 
active  in  planning  and  participating  in  biannual  meetings  of  Regional  and  State 
Board  staff.  At  the  same  time,  Dorothy  and  Jonathan  Bishop  meet  with  each  of 
the  Board  Executive  officers  by  phone  monthly  and  are  going  biannually  to  each 
of  the  Regional  offices  for  meetings  with  more  staff  on  high  priority  issues,  such 
as  performance-based  measurements.  These  are  important  activities,  but  the 
Water  Board  structure  was  not  designed  to  make  it  easy  to  have  a  tightly 
coordinated  body  of  Boards. 

7.  The  public  is  most  interested  in  knowing  if  their  water  is  safe  to  drink;  to  swim 
in;  can  the  fish  caught  in  a  lake  be  eaten.  As  we  pursue  measurement  of 
performance-based  objectives,  we  are  also  asking  those  who  report  on  data  to 
provide  it  in  a  way  that  makes  sense  to  people.  Just  recently,  we  released  an 
early  assessment  of  all  the  lakes  in  the  State,  which  analyzed  mercury  and  PCBs 
in  the  fish.  This  information  is  now  in  a  searchable  data  base  that  will  let  the 
public  know  the  safety  of  the  fish  as  a  source  of  food.  Can  it  be  eaten  once  a 
day,  once  a  week,  once  a  month?  We  also  have  a  new  online  map  of  ASBS  and 
their  status.  There  will  be  more  roll-outs  of  similar  data  bases  over  the  next  year, 
and  this  will  not  only  help  us  focus  on  those  water  bodies  and  groundwater 
basins  where  important  actions  need  to  be  taken,  but  will  also  help  enlist  a  more 
informed  public  to  join  in  projects  and  programs  to  improve  the  water  quality  of 
their  community. 

A  major  success  story  since  I  was  last  before  you  was  the  discovery  through 
tracking  of  measurable  objectives  that  Mandatory  Minimum  Penalties  (MMPs) 
were  not  being  issued  in  a  timely  way  by  many  of  the  Regional  Boards.  The 
State  Board  then  approached  each  Region  with  three  choices:  issue  the 
penalties,  let  the  State  Board  issue  the  penalties,  or  share  responsibilities  for 
issuing  penalties.  All  of  the  Boards  responded,  and  as  of  March,  fewer  than  7% 
of  the  outstanding  violations  subject  to  MMPs  remain  to  be  addressed.  Now  we 
are  focusing  on  Waste  Discharge  Requirement  inspections  and  enforcement. 

This  year  there  are  two  new  initiatives:  the  release  of  the  Water  Boards'  First 
Annual  Performance  Report  and  a  statewide  information/database  on  water 
quality  and  ecosystem  monitoring  and  assessment.  The  Report  will  be  on  our 
website  in  September,  but  its  greatest  contribution  at  this  point  is  to  make  clear 
where  we  are  unable  to  tract  and  measure  the  effectiveness  of  our  regulatory 
and  technical/financial  assistance  program.  The  water  quality  database  will  also 
be  ready  shortly  and  currently  has  a  preview  portal: 

http://www.waterboards.ca.gov/water  issues/programs/monitorinq  council/docs/ 
swim  portal  mockup.pdf. 

8.  One  high  profile  element  of  the  State  Board's  enforcement  policy,  the  use  of 
Supplemental  Environmental  Projects  (SEPs)  was  adopted  in  February,  2008. 
The  remainder  of  the  policy,  which  features  a  new,  detailed  penalty  calculation 
methodology,  needed  more  testing  by  the  various  regions  and  stakeholders  than 


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we  anticipated.  As  you  can  imagine,  when  every  region  has  a  different  yardstick, 
developing  a  uniform  approach  creates  major  concerns.  We  have  had  several 
workshops  and  the  resulting  changes  in  the  approach  were  worth  the  delay. 
Now  the  policy  will  be  brought  to  the  Board  by  October,  and  given  the  amount  of 
public  discussion  and  response  to  concerns,  I  expect  it  will  be  acted  on  promptly. 

Having  Jonathan  Bishop,  former  Executive  Officer  of  the  Los  Angeles  Regional 
Board,  on  staff  has  led  to  many  of  the  items  discussed  above,  including  state 
policy  development,  collaboration  with  the  energy  agencies  on  once-through- 
cooling,  meetings  with  regional  boards  on  mandatory  minimum  penalties  and 
now  on  waste  discharge  requirements,  the  current  effort  to  develop  a  trash  TMDL 
template  for  all  regions,  and  statewide  performance  measures  for  the  State  and 
Regional  Water  Boards.  Jonathan  has  been  an  important  catalyst  for  two  trends: 
strengthening  the  State's  policy  leadership  and  recognizing  and  drawing  on  the 
expertise  that  has  developed  on  various  issues  at  the  Regional  level.  What  both 
Jonathan  and  I  have  learned  in  the  last  two  years  is  that  there  is  much  more 
public  process  at  the  State  Board,  as  compared  with  the  Regions,  and  few 
changes  can  be  made  done  quickly. 

10.   In  July  2008,  the  State  Board  adopted  a  Bay  Delta  strategic  work  plan,  which 
includes  actions  that  will  be  taken  by  the  Central  Valley  and  the  San  Francisco 
Regional  Boards.  The  purpose  of  this  plan,  in  addition  to  guiding  our  staff,  is  to 
alert  the  legislature  and  stakeholders  to  what  we  are  mandated  by  law  to  do, 
what  additional  actions  we  will  take,  and  our  timeline.  We  are  currently  on  track 
with  that  plan. 

There  are  multiple  venues  of  agencies  and  stakeholders  working  on  ways  to 
improve  the  environmental  conditions  in  the  Delta  and  to  make  water  deliveries 
to  agricultural  and  urban  users  more  reliable.  The  Water  Board  was  asked  to 
appear  before  the  Bay-Delta  Blue  Ribbon  Task  Force  twice;  and  we  were  very 
active  in  the  Secretaries'  follow-up,  which  created  a  set  of  recommendations 
based  on  the  Task  Force  report  that  was  given  to  the  legislature  and  the 
governor  at  the  end  of  2008.  State  Board  staff  attends  the  meetings  of  the  Bay 
Delta  Conservation  Plan  (BDCP),  and  we  are  expecting  the  BDCP,  as  part  of  its 
NEPA/CEQA  review,  to  provide  some  of  the  information  we  need  to  revise  the 
Bay-Delta  Plan.  The  Department  of  Water  Resources  will  also  be  providing 
additional  information  and  help  with  data  runs. 

The  Water  Board  is  currently  reviewing  flow  standards  for  the  San  Joaquin  River 
and  southern  Delta  salinity  standards  for  the  protection  of  agriculture.  These  two 
reviews  rely  on  Federal  and  state  agency  information  and  expertise,  as  well  as 
that  from  water  districts  and  non-governmental  organizations.   Neither  of  these 
issues  were  at  the  forefront  of  the  Bay  Delta  Blue  Ribbon  Task  Force,  nor  are 
they  the  focus  of  the  BDCP,  yet  flow  in  the  San  Joaquin  and  salinity  standards  for 
agriculture  in  the  South  Delta  will  be  an  extremely  important  building  block  for 
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In  July  the  State  Water  Board  will  consider  adoption  of  a  periodic  review  of  the 
Bay-Delta  Plan,  which  will  include  Delta  Outflow  objectives,  Export/Inflow 
objectives,  Delta  Cross  Channel  Gate  Closure  objectives,  Suisun  Marsh 
objectives,  Floodplain  Habitat  Flow  objectives,  and  changes  to  the  Monitoring 
and  Special  Studies  Program.  Assuming  the  period  review  is  adopted,  staff  will 
then  begin  to  gather  the  information  necessary  from  all  parties  to  launch  the 
public  outreach  on  the  Bay-Delta  Plan  in  the  first  half  of  2010. 

In  another  related  effort,  documented  in  the  our  Bay  Delta  Strategic  Plan,  we  are 
working  this  year  with  other  Federal  and  State  agencies  and  stakeholders  to 
gather  water  use  data  in  a  more  comprehensive,  integrated  way.  The  Recycled 
Water  Policy  and  the  20x2020  initiative,  as  well  as  policies  and  pilot  programs  to 
increase  the  capture  and  use  of  stormwater  and  dry  weather  runoff,  will  be  a  part 
of  the  data  base  and  will  give  state  and  regional  planners  a  clearer  picture  of  how 
water  is  used  and  what  are  the  options  to  meet  the  needs  of  vulnerable  wildlife, 
larger  urban  populations,  and  a  sustainable  agricultural  economy,  while  building 
the  buffers  that  will  be  necessary  as  climate  change  affects  current  precipitation 
patterns. 

In  the  long  term,  the  Delta  should  be  managed  for  change.  There  must  be 
beneficial  use  standards  set  and  upheld,  and  the  Water  Board  is  charged  with 
setting  and  enforcing  those  standards    I  think  the  new  standards,  however,  will 
look  quite  different  from  those  in  place  today.  The  goals  must  be  clear,  but  it  is 
inevitable  there  will  be  important  day-to-day  water  management  decisions  that 
cannot  be  envisioned  by  the  Water  Board  in  a  rule  book.  I  also  hope  water 
efficiency  and  alternative  sources  of  water,  such  as  recycled  water  and 
flood/stormwater,  will  be  a  central  part  of  the  supply  picture;  and  a  great  deal 
more  monitoring  will  be  needed  to  guide  management  decision-making  and 
water  allocations.  The  Water  Board's  enforcement  role  must  be  made  more 
credible  with  more  water  rights  enforcement  staff,  but  also  with  a  more 
streamlined  approach  to  allocating  and  managing  water  rights. 

1 1 .  The  Bay  Delta  Water  Quality  Control  Plan,  which  is  under  the  State  Board's 
jurisdiction,  focuses  on  flow  and  salinity.  Other  water  quality  issues  are 
addressed  through  Region  5  and  Region  2's  basin  plans  and  related  permitting 
activities,  and  the  State  Board  is  often  the  appellate  judges  for  stakeholders  who 
do  not  agree  with  Regional  Board  actions.  The  Board  is  also  a  source  of  funding 
for  regional  projects  of  statewide  significance.  Recently  the  State  Board  has 
acted  on  several  appeals  of  NPDES  permits  issued  by  the  Central  Valley 
Regional  Board.  Typically,  some  elements  of  these  permits  are  remanded  back 
to  the  Regional  Board  and  some  elements  are  accepted  by  the  Board.  The 
outcome,  however,  of  improved  regional  water  quality  remains  elusive  in  this 
approach.   I  think  the  State  and  Regional  Water  Boards  must  focus  on  negative 
and  positive  incentives  for  stakeholders  to  work  together  to  update  basin  plans 
and  work  together  to  identify  and  pursue  local,  regional,  and  inter-regional 


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solutions.  This  has  begun  to  happen  in  the  Santa  Ana  Region  of  Southern 
California,  which  while  blessed  with  richer  stakeholders,  has  nevertheless  put 
their  assets  to  work  in  an  approach  that  should  work  in  other  regions. 

12.  Blue-green  algae  blooms  occur  naturally  in  the  Delta,  but  they  are  worse 
under  conditions  of  low  flows,  warm  temperatures,  and  high  nutrient  conditions 
with  ammonia.  While  more  research  will  help  pinpoint  the  extent  of  the  threat  to 
Delta  species,  actions  in  the  Delta  that  improve  circulation,  increase  stream  flows, 
and  control  nutrients  should  be  considered  for  a  variety  of  reasons.  The  State 
Board  staff  are  working  with  USEPA  on  a  developing  a  TMDL  to  control  nutrient 
concentrations  under  various  water  body  conditions. 

The  Bay  Delta  Water  Quality  Plan  will  address  flows,  and  while  blue-green  algae 
blooms  information  will  not  be  a  central  issue  in  our  consideration  of  flows,  it  will 
be  among  the  various  considerations  we  will  have  before  as  we  set  standards. 

1 3.  Rights  to  use  water  and  the  amount  of  water  that  can  be  safely  allocated  to 
the  environment,  agriculture  and  urban  communities  are  at  the  heart  of  most 
water  use  conflicts.   I  became  Executive  Director  of  the  Mono  Lake  Committee 
after  the  Water  Board  ruled  that  because  offish  and  air  quality  concerns,  the  Los 
Angeles  Department  of  Water  and  Power  (LADWP)  would  have  to  forego  taking 
some  of  its  water  from  streams  that  fed  the  Lake.   LADWP  did  not  lose  its  water 
rights,  but  its  use  of  those  rights  was  constrained  to  meet  environmental  needs. 
With  this  experience,  I  think  decision-makers  would  have  a  much  more 
constructive  discussion  of  water  rights  if  they  shift  their  focus  from  water  rights 
permits  to  three  areas:  licenses  to  use  water,  water  measurement  and  reporting, 
and  strengthening  the  Water  Board's  ability  to  use  its  existing  authority. 

A  water  rights  license,  unlike  a  permit,  is  closer  to  the  real  deal.  The  license 
amount  of  water  is  set  by  an  on-the-ground  inspection  of  how  much  water  a 
project  will  actually  use  and  it  is  this  amount  that  will  be  enforced  by  the  Board. 
The  Water  Rights  staff  estimate  that  95%  of  the  time,  a  license  is  issued  for  less 
water  than  the  permit  allowed,  with  the  5%  exceptions  being  small  reservoirs. 

But  licenses  don't  reflect  reality  either.  They  are  written  to  include  the  maximum 
amount  of  water  the  water  user  has  diverted  in  the  single  highest  year  of 
diversion  during  the  permitted  project  development  period.   In  addition,  they  do 
not  account  for  water  molecules  that  are  used  multiple  times  along  a  water 
course  or  for  changes  in  regulations.  Therefore,  if  you  are  looking  for  real  water 
use,  you  must  look  at  the  water  use  reports  filed  by  water  diverters.  The  Water 
Rights  division  of  the  State  Board  is  enhancing  its  electronic  water  rights 
database,  eWRIMS,  to  allow  for  online  water  diversion  and  use  reporting,  and 
expects  to  complete  the  task  during  the  FY2009-2010  fiscal  year.  While  the 
quality  of  current  information  from  diverters  is  currently  poor,  this  is  an  area 
where  monitoring  and  training  could  pay  off.  Also,  the  staff  are  putting 
programmed  controls  into  the  new  system  to  reduce  errors. 


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Delta  diverters  are  not  required  to  report  their  diversions  and  use,  so  the  Water 
Rights  staff  is  currently  conducting  an  investigation  of  water  use  by  Delta 
diverters  and  will  bring  recommendations  to  the  Board  this  fall  on  next  steps. 

Finally,  the  State  Water  Board  has  continuing  authority  over  water  rights  permits 
and  licenses.  It  can  revoke  a  water  right  permit  or  license  when  water  has  not  or 
is  no  longer  being  used,  and  it  can  make  changes  to  existing  water  rights.  The 
Board  can  also  impose  additional  restrictions  on  water  rights,  as  in  the  case  of 
Mono  Lake.  To  do  these  tasks,  for  which  we  have  existing  authority,  we  need 
people,  and  without  this  human  investment,  the  State  of  California  will  continue  to 
get  a  water  rights  system  that  is  weak,  and  will  be  even  weaker  as  climate 
change  begins  to  affects  water  systems. 

Some  Delta  stakeholders  and  decision-makers  are  talking  about  creating  more 
water  rights  judges.  We  may  need  more  at  some  time  in  the  future,  but  what  we 
really  need  are  attorneys,  engineers,  and  scientists  who  can  prepare  the  cases 
for  the  five  judges  we  have  right  now. 

14.  Business  as  usual  will  not  eliminate  the  464  (May  2009)  pending  water  rights 
applications.  The  only  conditions  under  which  we  can  refuse  to  accept 
applications  is  if  the  Board,  through  an  adjudicatory  process,  or  the  courts  make 
a  "prior  water  right  decision"  finding  there  is  no  water  available  for  appropriation, 
after  which  the  Board  will  declare  a  stream  "fully  appropriated."  This  is  a  high  bar. 

The  Water  Rights  division  has,  since  2003,  been  imposing  and  enforcing 
deadlines  on  water  rights  applicants,  and  the  result  is  a  35%  reduction  (719  in 
2003)  in  pending  applications  despite  a  staffing  reduction  of  about  30%  in  the 
same  period  of  time.  Staff  have  also  stopped  preparing  CEQA  documents  for 
applicants,  and  thus  many  of  the  pending  proposals  are  the  result  of  applicants 
taking  time  to  hire  and  fund  consultants  to  do-that  work. 

To  further  reduce  the  backlog,  the  staff  adopted  National  Marine  Fisheries 
Service/Department  of  Fish  and  Game  guidelines  to  identify  those  Northern 
California  coastal  streams  that  are  unlikely  to  have  significant  impacts  on 
fisheries  and  are  considering  a  policy  that  would  reduce  permitting  time 
associated  with  minor  applications  located  above  the  point  of  anadromy  in  these 
areas.  There  are  also  some  water  rights  processes  that  are  now  being  done 
simultaneously  rather  than  in  sequence. 

I  have  high  hopes,  however,  for  the  development  of  standard  permit  terms  for 
various  regions  or  water  bodies,  which  would  allow  the  Board  to  issue  a  draft 
permit  at  the  same  time  they  issue  a  notice  of  the  application.  Under  this 
approach,  most  applicants  will  know  ahead  of  time  the  conditions  they  will  be 
expected  to  meet,  will  have  no  reason  to  protest  just  to  maintain  standing  while 
the  project  is  being  developed,  and  it  will  allow  the  State  Board  to  comply  more 


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easily  with  CEQA,  a  significant  time  and  effort  investment  of  staff.  I  can  also 
envision  standard  terms  for  other  issues,  such  as  climate  change  and  local 
supply  development,  such  as  recycled  water  and  low  impact  development. 

15.  The  Board  decisions  on  allocating  stimulus  monies  was  well  thought  through 
and  was  not  designed  to  slight  urban  areas,  but  it  was  designed  to  help  level  the 
playing  field  for  disadvantaged  areas  that  often  miss  out  on  grant  opportunities. 
The  grants,  which  are  in  amounts  of  $5  and  $10  million,  have  been  allocated  now 
in  three  categories,  all  of  which  can  benefit  urban  areas:  sewage  treatment  ($70 
million),  urban  stormwater  projects  ($42  million),  and  restarting  bond-funded 
projects  (up  to  $70  million).  The  first  two  categories  focus  on  low  income,  not 
small  communities,  and  over  400  communities,  including  the  City  of  LA  and  the 
City  Long  Beach,  fall  into  that  category.  Many  of  the  stopped  bond  projects  are 
also  in  urban  areas.  The  Board  reduced  the  interest  rate  on  the  loan  program  to 
0%  for  $60  million  of  green  projects  (innovative  and  efficient)  and  1%  for  the 
remainder  of  the  funds,  and  we  have  received  over  $1.5  billion  in  applications 
from  urban  agencies  for  these  monies. 

I  think  much  of  the  outcry  came  from  those  who  either  had  not  worked  recently  or 
ever  with  the  State  Board  on  funding  and  who  leapt  to  conclusions  that  would 
have  proved  unfounded  if  they  had  talked  with  us  first.  There  was  also  the 
human  factor  of  agencies  and  cities  wanting  all  the  $280  million  going  to  grants. 
My  reason  for  not  wanting  to  go  that  way  was  to  encourage  larger  projects,  and 
sure  enough,  some  areas  have  applied  for  grant  monies  to  cover  disadvantaged 
communities  and  loans  to  cover  a  larger  project.  And,  if  the  disadvantaged 
communities  do  not  have  their  applications  approved  by  September,  the  monies 
will  be  open  to  any  community  ready  to  go. 

16.  Management  staff  at  the  Water  Board  are  mostly  over  50,  and  over  the  next 
five  years,  retirements  will  accelerate  from  4%  this  year  to  higher.  We  are  lucky, 
however,  to  have  succession  plans.  We  have  a  "Test  the  Waters"  web-based 
recruitment  system.  We  have  trained  employees  to  actively  recruit  scientists  and 
engineers  from  California  Universities.  And  most  importantly,  we  have  a  Training 
Academy  that  is  developing  future  managers  and  executive  leadership.  Another 
issue  that  may  affect  recruitment  is  dealt  with  in  the  next  question — disparity 
between  supervising  scientists  and  engineers. 

17.  At  this  time,  the  Water  Board  does  not  appear  to  have  employee  retention 
issues  related  to  pay,  but  we  are  certainly  aware  of  the  gap  in  pay  between 
engineers  and  scientists  and  between  supervising  engineers  and  rank  and  file 
engineers.   Increasing  salaries  for  scientists,  however,  is  part  of  the  collective 
bargaining  contract  negotiations,  and  given  the  State's  financial  challenges,  this 
issue  is  likely  to  be  in  limbo  for  a  while.   Legislative  approval  and  funds  will  also 
be  necessary  to  close  the  supervising  engineer  gap. 


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Linda  S.  Adams 

Secretary  for 
Environmental  Protection 


State  Water  Resources  Control  Board 

Charles  R.  Hoppin,  Board  Chair 

1001  I  Street  •  Sacramento,  California  95814  •  (916)  341-5603 

Mailing  Address:  P.O.  Box  100  •  Sacramento,  California  •  95812-0100 

Fax  (916)  341-5621  •  http://www.waterboards.ca.gov 


Arnold  Schwarzenegger 

Governor 


June  19,  2009 


Ms.  Nettie  Sabelhaus 
Appointments  Director 
Senate  Rules  Committee 
State  Capitol,  Room  420 
Sacramento,  California  95814 

Dear  Ms.  Sabelhaus: 


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I  appreciate  the  opportunity  to  appear  before  the  Senate  Rules  Committee  for  a 
confirmation  hearing  on  my  reappointment  as  a  State  Water  Resources  Control  Board 
(State  Water  Board)  Member.  Following  are  responses  to  the  questions  asked  in 
Senator  Darrell  Steinberg's  letter  of  June  8,  2009. 

Statement  of  Goals 

1.      Since  March  2005  when  you  were  first  appointed,  what  have  been  your  most 
significant  accomplishments  as  a  member  of  the  board?  What  do  you  hope  to 
accomplish  during  your  current  tenure  as  a  member  of  the  board?  How  will  you 
measure  your  success? 

I  have  focused  on  three  initial  actions  to  change  the  State  and  Regional  Water 
Boards  into  a  performance-based  organization — set  clear  priorities,  develop 
measurable  targets,  and  ensure  accountability.  For  such  seemingly  basic  and 
logical  steps,  progress  has  been  excruciatingly  slow  but  has  steadily  gained 
momentum  in  the  last  two  years.  Some  accomplishments  are: 

•  Strategic  Plan  Update  with  priorities,  goals,  and  actions  regarding  surface 
and  ground  water  quality,  sustainable  water  supplies,  water  quality  planning, 
and  improved  transparency,  consistency  and  workforce  capacity; 

•  Bay-Delta  Strategic  Work  Plan  outlining,  among  other  actions,  a 
comprehensive  regional  monitoring  program,  increased  compliance  and 
enforcement  of  water  rights,  and  activities  to  improve  water  conservation; 

•  Performance  measures  and  an  Annual  Performance  Report  to  chart  our 
effectiveness,  evaluate  strategies  and  make  adjustments  in  our  permitting, 
enforcement,  planning,  and  policy  development  activities; 


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•  Enforcement  initiatives  to  establish  a  baseline  of  enforcement  resources 
and  outputs,  develop  a  core  set  of  enforcement  performance  measures  for 
tracking,  and  address  the  backlog  of  violations  requiring  mandatory 
minimum  penalties; 

•  Data  management  improvements  that  include  development  or  upgrade  of 
key  systems,  including  the  California  Integrated  Water  Quality  System  and 
the  newly  released  online  Sewage  Spills  Incident  Maps; 

•  Internal  coordination  among  Water  Board  Chairs  for  organizational 
improvement,  including  development  of  the  "Water  Quality  Improvement 
Initiative"  legislative  proposal  and  water  education  workshops;  and 

•  Management  restructuring  that  has  resulted  in  a  new  executive  team  and 
senior  managers  focused  on  enforcement,  public  participation,  information 
management  and  analysis,  and  research,  planning  and  performance. 

Cultural  change  and  organizational  improvement  efforts  are  not  flashy  or  popular, 
and,  for  an  organization  as  established  and  insular  as  the  Water  Boards,  extremely 
difficult.  However,  I  still  believe  the  Water  Boards  becoming  a  performance-based 
organization  is  critical,  especially  in  light  of  the  State's  economic  crisis  and  the 
opportunity  presented  by  a  changing  workforce.  Therefore,  during  my  current 
tenure,  I  will  continue  to  push  for  performance  management  and  accountability, 
building  on  previous  accomplishments  and  focusing  on  the  following  actions: 

•  Identify  and  improve  regulatory  processes  that  have,  over  time,  been 
institutionalized  as  standard  practices  without  periodic  review  and  update  in 
response  to  changing  environmental,  economic,  societal  or  scientific 
conditions  (the  Underground  Storage  Tank  cleanup  program  is  one 
example); 

•  Identify  and  eliminate  operational  costs  that  result  from  duplicative, 
outdated  or  otherwise  costly  practices  involving  travel,  procurement, 
contracting  and  other  internal  functions;  and 

•  Audit  resources  and  re-align  with  priorities,  performance  measures 
and  targets  to  ensure  a  more  strategic  approach  in  allocating  resources 
among  the  State  and  Regional  Water  Boards. 

Success  in  cultural  change  and  organization  improvement  is  difficult  to  measure 
because  baselines  are  often  undefined  and  outcomes,  long-termed.  If  the  last  four 
years  is  any  indication,  a  personal  measure  of  success  will  be  persistence  as  there 
is  much  reluctance  and  opposition  (active  and  passive,  internal  and  external)  to 
changing  long-established  practices  and  an  ingrained  organizational  culture.  Other, 
more  quantifiable,  measures  might  be:  time  saved  or  other  outcomes  as  a  result  of 
improved  regulatory  processes;  reduction  in  operational  costs;  and  completion  of 
resources  audit  and  identification  of  re-alignment  options. 


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2.  What  progress  have  you  achieved  in  implementing  a  robust  water  monitoring  and 
research  program  within  the  state  water  board? 

With  limited  resources  in  this  area,  my  strategy  has  been  to  identify  and  prioritize 
specific  needs  to  support  core  water  regulatory  functions,  leverage  our  limited 
resources  with  federal  funds  and  by  working  with  other  research  institutions,  and 
ensure  access  to  and  exchange  of  monitoring  and  research  data.  To  this  end,  the 
Water  Boards  have  begun  developing  a  research  agenda  to  guide  and  coordinate 
our  activities.  Other  accomplishments  include: 

•  Surface  Water  Ambient  Monitoring  Program  (SWAMP)  established  six 
statewide  assessments  (performance  measures)  to  determine  water  quality 
status  and  trends  over  the  last  five  years; 

•  Annual  State  of  the  State  "Report  Cards"  to  track  wetland  extent  and 
condition,  sport  fish  contamination,  coastal  beach  postings  and  closures, 
and  the  ecological  health  of  streams,  estuaries,  bays  and  coastal  waters; 

•  Financial  support  distributed  to  projects  that  are  developing  new  science 
related  to  water  quality  compliance,  wetland  health,  and  climate  impacts; 

•  Indicators  developed  and  implemented  to  detect  the  presence  of  endocrine 
disrupting  chemicals,  quantify  pesticides  toxicity  in  streams  and  sediments, 
and  assess  overall  ecological  health; 

•  Geotracker  groundwater  quality  data  system  enhanced  using  Google 
Maps  interface  and  other  graphing  tools  and  literature  links;  and 

•  Statewide  groundwater  quality  testing  being  conducted  to  assess 
baseline  groundwater  quality  and  changes. 

3.  How  successful  have  you  been  in  enhancing  the  scientific  and  research  resources 
of  the  board? 

Not  as  much  as  I  would  have  liked.  Given  our  resource  constraints,  developing  and 
leveraging  partnerships  is  the  only  feasible  way  to  enhance  our  scientific  and 
research  capabilities.  We  have  partnerships  with  the  Southern  California  Coastal 
Water  Research  Program  (SCCWRP),  the  San  Francisco  Estuary  Institute  (SFEI), 
and  Aquatic  Science  Center  in  ongoing  scientific  research  addressing  surface 
water  concerns.  The  State  and  Central  Valley  Regional  Water  Boards  are  also 
active  in  the  Central  Valley  Salinity  Coalition  (CV-SALTS)  formed  last  year. 

On  a  related  note,  in  2005,  I  initiated  a  review  of  the  role  of  science  and 
engineering  in  decision-making  at  the  State  and  Regional  Boards.  The  consultant's 
report  contains  30  recommendations  for  improvement.  I  did  not  have  the 
opportunity  then  to  follow-up  on  this  initial  step,  but  will  this  year  engage  key 
stakeholders  in  evaluating  the  proposals,  especially  those  pertaining  to  resource 
enhancement,  for  implementation  feasibility. 


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4.      Please  describe  improvements  in  performance-based  measurements.  How  can  we 
tell  if  there  is  more  compliance  and  improved  water  quality  within  the  state? 

The  Water  Boards  have  struggled  to  develop  performance-based  measures  since  I 
committed  us  to  the  effort  in  2006.  Finally,  in  2008,  we  approved  our  first  set  of 
performance  measures,  which  consists  of  nine  specific  measures  for  enforcement, 
and  began  tracking  them.  Since  then,  State  and  Regional  Water  Board  staffs  have 
developed  a  series  of  preliminary  performance  measures  for  all  program  areas  and 
will  present  them  at  the  State  Water  Board's  September  1 ,  2009  meeting.  Next,  we 
will  establish  annual  targets  for  the  measures  and  track  our  performance. 

Our  performance  measures  are  a  good  start — the  struggle  to  get  this  far  has  been 
too  difficult  for  me  to  not  celebrate  just  having  performance  measures  in  place. 
However,  our  initial  focus  will  be  primarily  on  output  measures  for  tracking  work 
products  instead  of  outcome  measures  for  tracking  improved  water  quality  and 
ecosystem  health.  We  have  begun  work  to  modify  and/or  develop  systems  to  more 
effectively  track  the  latter. 

We  also  must  institutionalize  performance  measures  so  that  they  become  an 
integral  part  of  every  program,  every  staff  person's  duty  statement,  and  our  entire 
organizational  culture.  A  starting  point  is  to  consider  how  we  might  link 
performance  measures  and  targets  to  the  allocation  of  resources  among  programs, 
and  among  the  State  and  Regional  Water  Boards. 

In  the  meantime,  our  limited  use  of  output-focused  performance  measures  has  led 
to  key  program  improvements.  For  example,  tracking  of  enforcement  measures 
identified  a  significant  lapse  in  our  enforcement  response  for  violations  subject  to 
mandatory  minimum  penalties,  and  our  focused  effort  to  address  this  has  resulted 
in  a  reduction  of  the  backlog  to  less  than  7%.  Our  use  of  performance  measures 
has  also  identified  that  the  Waste  Discharge  Requirement  program  is  showing 
significant  declines  in  inspection  and  enforcement,  which  we  are  now  reviewing  to 
determine  causes  and  make  corrections. 

A  key  to  successful  performance  measurement  is  making  information  accessible. 
Water  Board  staff  is  working  on  an  Annual  Performance  Report  to  present  the 
results  of  performance  tracking.  The  first  report  will  be  presented  to  the  State 
Water  Board  at  our  September  1,  2009  meeting.  Additionally,  as  lead  for  the 
implementation  of  Senate  Bill  1070  (Kehoe,  2006),  the  Water  Boards  have  been 
working  with  stakeholders  on  a  web  portal  through  which  water  quality  data  will  be 
integrated.  The  portal  will  be  accessible  this  summer  More  on  performance 
measures  is  included  in  the  response  to  Question  7. 


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State  and  Regional  Boards 

5.      In  your  letter  to  the  Rules  Committee  in  January  2006,  you  said  that  the  board's 
role  is  to  set  statewide  policies  and  provide  guidance  to  the  regional  water  boards. 
What  actions  has  the  board  taken  since  your  appointment  in  2006  to  ensure  this 
consistency  in  statewide  policies?  How  has  the  state  water  board  reviewed  and 
adjusted  regional  board  actions  that  were  not  consistent  with  statewide  policies? 

The  Board  has  directed  staff  to  develop  for  our  consideration  statewide  policies  on 
several  significant  matters.  Of  these,  three  have  been  completed  and  adopted 
since  2006 — recycled  water,  supplemental  environmental  projects,  and  compliance 
schedules  for  surface  water  discharge  permits.  Two  will  be  considered  by  the 
Board  by  the  end  of  this  year — water  quality  enforcement  and  regulation  of  once- 
through  cooling  water  discharge  from  power  plants. 

Another  type  of  action  to  ensure  consistency  is  the  development  of  statewide 
permits  and  regulations.  The  Board  has  adopted  a  statewide  permit  for  sanitary 
sewer  systems  to  reduce  the  number  of  overflows  and  sewage  spilled.  To  be 
considered  by  the  Board  this  year  are  two  major  statewide  permits — one  for 
discharges  of  storm  water  from  construction  activities  and  the  other  for  landscape 
irrigation  uses  of  municipal  recycled  water. 

Other  efforts  to  ensure  consistency  include:  standardized  templates  for  wastewater 
permits;  guidance  to  assessing  the  effectiveness  of  municipal  storm  water 
programs;  options  for  a  statewide  trash  Total  Maximum  Daily  Loads;  and 
educational  workshops  for  staff  and  Board  members. 

The  State  Water  Board  also  utilizes  the  petition  process  to  address  issues  of 
inconsistency.  Between  July  2005  and  September  2008,  the  State  Water  Board 
has  issued  8  orders  amending  Regional  Water  Board  actions,  either  as  a  result  of  a 
petition  or  on  our  own  motion.  For  example,  we  have  remanded  a  Regional  Water 
Board  order  for  not  complying  with  statewide  secondary  treatment  standards,  and 
another  for  inconsistency  with  the  State  Water  Board's  Bay-Delta  Plan.  During  this 
same  time  period,  the  Board's  Executive  Director  dismissed  74  petitions  as  having 
issues  that  were  not  substantial  or  appropriate  for  review. 

I  am  concerned  about  certain  aspects  of  the  petition  review  process  and  am 
exploring  some  changes  to  make  it  more  effective.  Too  often,  the  petitions  that  do 
come  to  the  Board  are  limited  to  narrowly-defined  legal  or  technical  issues  to  which 
we  are  constrained  and  must  consider  within  the  process  limitations  of  a  Board 
meeting.  I  appreciate  that  this  focused  approach  to  petition  review  is  a  matter  of 
efficiency,  but  would  like  to  see  more  transparency  and  engagement  of  the  parties 
in  fully  discussing  and  resolving  the  issues  of  contention. 


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6.  In  your  letter,  you  also  mentioned  you  were  open  to  exploring  alternatives  to  the 
size  and  composition  of  regional  water  boards.  The  categories  for  regional  water 
board  membership  were  created  in  1969.  Given  that  40  years  have  passed,  and 
the  issues  confronting  regional  water  boards  have  dealt  more  exclusively  with 
water  quality  and  have  become  more  technical,  do  yoii  believe  membership  criteria 
should  be  changed?  If  so,  how?  Given  the  problem  that  has  occurred  with 
maintaining  a  quorum  at  a  number  of  water  board  meetings,  should  the  number  of 
members  be  changed? 

The  Water  Boards  have  developed  a  "Water  Quality  Improvement  Initiative"  (WQII) 
legislative  proposal,  released  in  2008  in  response  to  then-Senator  Don  Perata's 
Senate  Bill  1 176,  that  includes,  among  other  changes,  reducing  the  number  of 
members  for  each  Regional  Water  Board  from  9  to  7  by  combining  the  industrial 
water  use  and  the  water  supply,  conservation  and  production  positions,  and  by 
combining  the  municipal  and  county  government  positions.  I  support  this  change. 

Our  WQII  does  not  propose  changing  membership  criteria  for  the  Regional  Water 
Boards.  In  my  interactions  with  the  Regional  Water  Board  members,  I  have 
observed  that  the  most  effective  ones  commit  time  to  understand  the  issues,  keep 
an  open  mind  and  balanced  approach  to  decision  making,  and  continually  strive  for 
water  quality  protection  and  improvement — regardless  of  their  academic 
background  and  professional  credentials.  I  do  not  know  how  such  intrinsic  factors 
could  be  captured  in  specific  statutory  language  on  membership  criteria. 

7.  What  accomplishments  can  be  attributed  to  the  Office  of  Research,  Planning,  and 
Performance?  Does  the  board  have  adequate  resources  in  this  area? 

The  Office  of  Research,  Planning  and  Performance  (ORPP)  has  limited  resources 
in  these  difficult  budget  times.  However,  I  am  very  proud  of  ORPP  staff,  their 
accomplishments  in  the  two  years  since  its  formation,  and  their  impact  on  the 
Water  Boards,  as  a  whole,  in  three  areas — performance  measures,  water 
education,  and  cross-agency  coordination. 

In  addition  to  leading  a  successful  and  inclusive  strategic  planning  process  that 
resulted  in  measurable  goals  and  objectives,  ORPP  has  driven  the  implementation 
of  performance  measurement  systems  as  the  means  to  measuring  Water  Board 
program  effectiveness.  Initial  training  on  performance-based  approaches,  provided 
by  ORPP  staff  to  managers  at  the  State  Water  Board,  has  led  to  the  recent 
development  of  performance  measures  for  the  core  regulatory,  water  rights  and 
financial  assistance  programs.  These  measures  are  now  being  routinely  used  in 
the  many  of  the  reports  that  ORPP  is  responsible  for  preparing,  including 
enforcement  reports  and  the  upcoming  First  Annual  Performance  Report. 


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ORPP  has  established  a  series  of  comprehensive  educational  programs  and 
workshops  for  Board  members  statewide.  The  workshops  are  designed  to 
introduce  newly  appointed  Board  members  to  the  programs  and  responsibilities  of 
the  Water  Boards  and  provide  all  Board  members  opportunities  to  learn,  in  greater 
detail,  about  important,  current  and  controversial  issues.  The  information 
developed  for  these  workshops  is  comprehensive  and  is  available  not  only  to  Board 
members,  but  to  stakeholders  and  the  public  through  our  internet  site. 

ORPP  has  also  assumed  the  responsibility  for  leading  the  Water  Boards'  cross- 
agency  efforts.  The  most  significant  effort  is  the  coordination  of  our  climate  change 
activities.  Water  is  a  key  factor  in  energy  usage  throughout  the  state,  which  has 
significant,  direct  green  house  gas  effects.  A  continued  area  of  development  for 
ORPP  is  the  implementation  of  a  robust  research  function  at  the  Water  Boards. 
While  there  is  much  research  that  is  occurring,  we  have  not  been  as  successful  as 
I  would  have  liked  at  enhancing  our  resources  to  identify  and  carry  out  the  direct 
research  that  I  believe  is  essential  to  address  today's  water  quality 
concerns.  ORPP  is  currently  implementing  several  of  the  activities  identified  in  our 
strategic  plan,  adopted  last  year,  to  inventory  all  existing  research  and  draft  a 
proposed  agenda  for  future  research. 


Enforcement 

8.      Now  that  the  state  water  board  has  created  an  Office  of  Enforcement,  what  have 
been  the  results?  Have  quantifiable  targets  and  performance  measurements  been 
developed? 

I  wish  I  could  report  that  the  result  is  a  definite  and  measurable  improvement  in 
water  quality.  However,  as  noted  in  response  to  Question  4,  we  are  still  focused 
primarily  on  output  measures  and  targets  for  work  products.  The  six  enforcement 
measures  that  our  data  systems  current  track  are:  inspection  monitoring; 
compliance  rates;  enforcement  response;  enforcement  activities;  penalties 
assessed  and  collected;  and  minimum  mandatory  penalty  (MMP)  violations 
addressed.  Two  outcome-related  measures  that  we  are  working  toward  tracking 
are  recidivism  (facilities  returning  to  non-compliance  for  the  same  violation 
addressed  through  enforcement  action)  and  environmental  benefit. 

With  the  creation  of  the  Office  of  Enforcement  (OE)  and  emphasis  on  performance 
tracking  and  reporting,  we  have  demonstrated  significant  improvement  in  two 
areas.  The  first  is  fines  assessed,  which  almost  doubled  from  2007  to  2008,  and 
tripled  compared  to  2006 — $28  million  in  liability  assessed  in  2008,  of  which 
$10.6  million  has  been  collected.  The  second  is  in  MMP  violations,  where  in 
9  months  we  addressed  approximately  13,812  violations  from  455  facilities, 


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resulting  to  date  in  actual  liabilities  assessed  of  $15.6  million  with  an  additional 
$26  million  in  process.  Other  OE  accomplishments  include  the  creation  of 
specialized  prosecution  staff  counsel  and  initiation  of  various  pilot  enforcement 
projects. 

9.  What  is  the  consistency  of  enforcement  among  regional  water  boards?  Do  the 
same  violations  in  different  regions  receive  the  same  penalties? 

I  do  not  have  specific  data,  just  anecdotal  information,  regarding  consistency  of 
enforcement  among  Regional  Water  Boards.  However,  the  State  Water  Board  is 
taking  steps  to  improve  consistency. 

The  draft  revised  Water  Quality  Enforcement  Policy,  to  be  considered  by  the  Board 
in  October,  contains  new  criteria  by  which  each  of  the  Water  Boards  will  prioritize 
violations  for  enforcement  response.  There  is  also  a  new  penalty  calculation 
methodology  specifically  designed  to  ensure  that  similar  violations  receive  similar 
penalty  analysis  regardless  of  which  region  the  violation  occurs  in. 

The  OE,  with  regional  enforcement  staff  and  the  Office  of  Chief  Counsel,  have 
developed  standardized  templates  for  enforcement  hearings  that  are  available  for 
use  by  the  regional  water  boards.   Use  of  these  templates  will  enhance  consistency 
between  the  regional  boards  in  enforcement  proceedings. 

10.  What  has  caused  the  delay  in  adopting  the  state  board's  enforcement  policy? 

The  draft  revised  Water  Quality  Enforcement  Policy,  on  which  staff  began  work  in 
June  2007,  is  significantly  different  from  the  last  version  adopted  in  2002 — and,  in 
my  opinion,  significantly  improved.  It  has  taken  staff  considerable  time  to  refine  the 
changes  proposed  in  the  Policy  regarding  small  communities,  enforcement 
priorities,  State  Water  Board  enforcement  action,  monetary  assessments,  MMPs, 
compliance  projects,  enhanced  compliance  actions,  violation  and  enforcement 
data,  and  enforcement  reporting  and  performance  measures.  While  impatient  at 
times  with  the  progress,  I  am  pleased  with  the  quality  of  the  draft  Policy  and  will 
continue  to  push  for  further  improvement. 

As  briefly  mentioned  in  response  to  Question  5,  the  State  Water  Board  adopted  in 
February  a  Supplemental  Environmental  Projects  (SEP)  policy  separate  from  the 
overall  Enforcement  Policy.  The  SEP  policy  was  created,  in  part,  to  respond  to 
concerns  by  the  Legislative  Analyst's  Office  regarding  the  Water  Boards'  past  use 
of  this  settlement  device.  As  a  result  of  this  policy,  the  Water  Boards  are  requiring 
greater  accountability  from  dischargers  who  use  SEPs  and  placing  reasonable 
controls  on  the  use  of  SEPs  in  settlement  of  monetary  enforcement  actions. 


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Sacramento-San  Joaquin  Delta 

11.    In  light  of  these  developments,  how  is  the  state  board  working  with  other  state 
agencies  to  manage  the  Delta?  What  role  will  your  board  play  in  the  short  term? 
What  is  your  view  of  how  the  Delta  should  be  managed  for  the  long  term? 

The  cooperative  approach  over  the  last  ten-plus  years  has  not  yielded  positive 
results  for  the  Delta.  The  State  Water  Board  must  take  a  more  active  and 
authoritative  role  in  Delta  management,  revisit  its  obligations  to  protect  competing 
beneficial  uses  in  the  Delta,  and  establish  and  implement  water  objectives  that 
support  public  interest  and  public  trust  protections.  This  should  include 
consideration  of  any  new  State  Water  Project  and  Central  Valley  Project  export 
facilities  in  the  Delta  that  will  have  a  major  effect  on  fishery  and  agricultural 
beneficial  uses.  This  should  also  include  an  assessment  of  controls  on  diversions 
and  discharges  upstream  of  the  Delta  that  have  a  large  impact  on  the  Delta. 

In  the  short  term,  the  State  Water  Board  is  implementing  the  actions  in  its  2008 
Bay  Delta  Strategic  Work  Plan.  Listed  below  are  some  of  the  actions  that  involve 
coordination  with  other  state  agencies. 


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With  regard  to  contaminants  and  water  quality,  we  are  developing  a 
comprehensive  monitoring  program  for  the  Delta,  focusing  on  ammonia, 
blue  green  algae,  selenium  and  pesticides.  We  are  working  with  the 
Department  of  Water  Resources  (DWR),  U.  S.  Bureau  of  Reclamation 
(USBR),  Office  of  Environmental  Health  Hazard  Assessment,  Department  of 
Pesticide  Regulation,  fishery  agencies,  water  districts,  and  point  source 
dischargers  such  as  the  Sacramento  Regional  County  Sanitation  District. 

Wth  regard  to  flow,  the  State  Water  Board  is  reviewing  flow  standards  in 
the  San  Joaquin  River  to  protect  salmon  as  part  of  its  update  of  the  Water 
Quality  Control  Plan  for  the  San  Francisco  Bay/Sacramento-San  Joaquin 
Delta  Estuary  (Bay  Delta  Plan).  Concurrent  with  this,  we  are  also  reviewing 
southern  Delta  salinity  standards  for  the  protection  of  agriculture.  These 
reviews  are  being  conducted  in  a  public  process,  and  will  rely  upon 
information  provided  by  DWR,  USBR,  Department  of  Fish  and  Game  (DFG), 
other  fishery  agencies,  water  districts,  and  non-governmental  organizations. 

The  Board  will  consider  in  July  a  periodic  review  of  the  Bay  Delta  Plan, 
including  staff  recommendations  for  further  work  on  objectives  for  Delta 
outflow,  export/inflow,  Delta  Cross  Channel  Gate  closure,  Suisun  Marsh, 
reverse  flow,  and  floodplain  habitat  flow.  Many  of  these  elements  may  be 
affected  by  and  are  being  reviewed  as  part  of  the  Bay  Delta  Conservation 
Plan,  and  staff  is  closely  tracking  this  effort. 


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•     Concurrent  with  these  water  quality  control  planning  efforts,  the  State  Water 
Board  has  also  been  actively  working  with  other  agencies  to  promote  the 
efficient  use  of  water.  We  are  working  with  DWR  and  the  Department  of 
Public  Health  on  a  water  measurement  database.  We  have  also  adopted  a 
recycled  water  policy,  and  will  evaluate  the  reasonableness  of  urban  and 
agricultural  water  use  in  two  high  water  use  areas. 

12.    The  Porter-Cologne  Act  provides  the  board  with  the  authority  to  protect  the 

beneficial  uses  of  water  in  the  Delta.  How  is  the  board  using  this  authority  beyond 
setting  salinity  standards? 

In  regard  to  planning,  the  State  Water  Board  adopts  both  basin  and  statewide 
plans  that  identify  existing  and  potential  beneficial  uses  of  water  and  sets  narrative 
and  numeric  water  quality  standards  for  contaminants  and  other  pollutants  as  well 
as  for  water  quality  parameters  such  as  temperature,  turbidity,  and  in  the  case  of 
the  Delta,  facilities  operations  (such  as  the  Delta  cross  channel  gates).  In  addition, 
for  the  Delta,  the  State  Water  Board  has  set  flow  objectives  as  part  of  its  Bay  Delta 
Plan.  The  State  Water  Board  sets  effluent  and  receiving  water  limits  to  implement 
those  objectives  through  its  water  quality  permitting  actions  and  considers  those 
objectives  when  it  issues  water  right  permits. 

The  State  Water  Board's  Bay  Delta  Plan  focuses  on  flow  and  salinity,  while  other 
water  quality  parameters  are  addressed  through  the  planning  efforts  of  the  Bay 
Area  and  Central  Valley  Regional  Water  Boards.  The  Regional  Water  Boards 
continue  to  conduct  planning,  including  establishment  of  appropriate  water  quality 
objectives  and  programs  of  implementation  for  the  control  of  pesticides,  ammonia, 
mercury,  selenium,  and  other  contaminants  in  the  Delta.  State  Water  Board 
coordination  assures  that  the  programs  of  implementation  developed  for  controls  of 
salt  and  other  contaminants  in  the  various  water  quality  control  plans  are 
comprehensive,  consistent,  and  not  mutually  exclusive.  Solutions  to  many  of  the 
Delta's  problems  will  need  to  rely  upon  continued  water  quality  controls  that  are 
established  in  conjunction  with  controls  on  flow  and  salinity. 

The  State  Water  Board  considers  the  impact  of  actions  on  beneficial  uses  of  water 
in  the  Delta  when  it  carries  out  its  financial  assistance  program.  The  State  Water 
Board  will  evaluate,  and  as  appropriate  prepare  a  resolution  that  supports,  various 
projects  proposed  for  funding  by  DWR  under  Proposition  204,  Article  5, 
"Sacramento  Valley  Water  Management  and  Habitat  Protection  Measures." 
Approximately  $8  million  dollars  of  projects  will  potentially  assist  in  the 
implementation  of  the  Bay  Delta  Plan. 


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13.    If  blue-green  algae  is  contributing  to  the  decline  in  Delta  species,  what  options 
does  the  board  have  to  deal  with  this  issue? 

If  anthropogenic  impacts  are  clearly  identified  as  a  cause,  then  potential  solutions 
would  require  improved  circulation,  flow  standards,  control  of  nutrients  and  other 
water  quality  conditions.  The  State  Water  Board  may  address  this  issue  using 
either  our  discharge  permitting  authorities  or  water  rights  authorities,  or  both. 
However,  much  more  research  is  needed  to  allow  a  proper  evaluation  of  the  overall 
effect  of  blue  green  algal  blooms  on  the  environment,  and  to  determine  how  much 
of  the  blooms  are  natural  as  opposed  to  induced  by  anthropogenic  inputs. 


Water  Rights 

14.  What  is  the  board's  plan  to  reconcile  water  rights  with  water  supply? 

As  much  of  the  difference  between  water  rights  and  water  supply  can  be  accounted 
for  by  "paper  water,"  we  will  attempt  to  reconcile  them,  as  resources  allow,  through: 

•  Water  right  licensing  based  on  inspection  and  determination  of  how  much 
water  has  been  put  to  actual  use  (95%  of  the  time,  a  license  is  issued  for 
less  water  than  the  corresponding  permit  for  the  project  allowed); 

•  Improved  water  measurement  and  reporting  to  get  a  more  realistic  view 
of  how  much  water  is  consumed;  and 

•  Exercising  our  continuing  authority  by  revoking  a  water  right  permit  or 
license  when  water  has  not  or  is  no  longer  being  used,  changing  existing 
water  rights  through  petitions,  and  increasing  enforcement. 

15.  [The  state  board  has  testified  in  public  hearings  before  the  Senate  that  there  are 
approximately  511  pending  water  rights  applications  representing  about  7.3  million 
acre-feet  of  water.]  What  will  the  board  do  to  eliminate  that  backlog  by  2020? 
Given  the  apparent  imbalance  of  water  rights  with  water  supply,  why  is  the  board 
accepting  applications  for  any  new  water  rights  until  it  brings  the  water  rights  in  line 
with  the  amount  of  available  water? 

The  State  Water  Board  must  accept  applications  to  appropriate  water  unless  a 
stream  system  has  been  declared  fully  appropriated  through:  1)  a  "prior  water  right 
decision"  by  the  Board  based  on  evidence  taken  at  an  adjudicatory  proceeding;  or 
2)  by  the  courts.  Most  pending  water  right  applications  are  filed  on  streams  that  are 
not  declared  fully  appropriated  and  for  which  no  prior  water  right  decision  on  the 
availability  of  unappropriated  water  exists.  Therefore,  the  State  Water  Board  must 
process  these  filed  applications. 


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The  State  Water  Board  has  reduced  the  number  of  pending  water  right  applications 
by  35  percent  since  2003.  These  reductions  have  been  accomplished  in  part  by 
imposing  and  enforcing  deadlines  on  water  right  applicants.  Additional 
improvements  will  only  result  from  more  efficient  and  effective  permitting  methods. 
To  that  end,  our  Strategic  Plan  commits  to  improving  this  process  and  the  Board 
has  directed  the  Deputy  Director  for  Water  Rights  to  work  with  stakeholders  in 
making  the  water  right  permitting  process  more  efficient  and  effective. 


Federal  Stimulus  Funds 

16.   [Urban  agencies  have  complained  to  the  Legislature  that  these  funds  are  unfairly 
restricted  so  that  most  large  cities  and  counties  are  only  eligible  for  loans  and  not 
grants.]  Please  describe  those  actions  the  state  board  has  taken  to  respond  to 
these  concerns. 

The  Board  has  clarified  that  the  funds  are  not  limited  to  small,  disadvantaged 
communities  and  that  there  are  many  urban  agencies  that  qualify,  including  the 
City  of  Los  Angeles  and  the  City  of  Long  Beach.  In  all,  there  are  over  400 
communities  in  California  that  qualify  as  a  disadvantage  community.  Since 
receiving  the  America  Recovery  and  Reinvestment  Act  of  2009  (ARRA)  funds  on 
May  20,  2009,  the  State  Water  Board  has  distributed  $10  million  in  grants  and 
$8.9  million  in  loans  to  urban  communities.  The  Board  has  recently  authorized  an 
additional  $42  million  in  ARRA  funds  to  be  made  as  grants  for  expanded  use  and 
wastewater  treatment.  We  have  received  over  $200  million  in  grant  applications  for 
the  expanded  use  projects  funds  from  both  urban  and  rural  agencies. 


Personnel  Issues 

17.    To  what  degree  are  the  state  and  Regional  Boards  experiencing  retirements  from 
top  management  and  manager-level  employees?  If  such  retirements  are  occurring, 
do  you  have  succession  plans? 

The  State  Water  Board's  2007  workforce  analysis  revealed  that  36%  of  our  staff  is 
over  50,  including  60%  of  our  executive  team  and  57%  of  our  program  managers 
and  supervisors.  During  this  fiscal  year,  4%  of  our  management  team  has  retired 
and  this  value  is  expected  to  accelerate  over  the  next  five  years.  The  State  Water 
Board  Executive  Director  has  instituted  a  new  recruitment  plan,  expanded  our 
Training  Academy  to  support  three  tracks  of  staff  development  (technical, 
administrative,  and  leadership),  and  conducted  succession  planning  with  the 
Regional  Water  Board  Executive  Officers. 


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While  I  have  not  been  personally  involved  in  these  efforts,  I  am  aware  of  concerns 
that  succession  planning  is  made  more  difficult  by  pay  equity  issues  and  the  civil 
service  classification  structure.  For  example,  several  Regional  Water  Board 
Executive  Officers  are  expected  to  retire  or  step  down  from  their  positions  this  year 
and  filling  these  vacancies  will  be  a  challenge  as  their  salaries  are  lower  than  those 
of  their  engineering  subordinates  (Assistant  Executive  Officers  and  Principle 
Supervising  Engineers). 

18.   Are  the  state  and  regional  boards  experiencing  any  problems  with  employee 
retention  or  pay  equity?  Please  describe  how  the  board  plans  to  reconcile  these 
issues. 

I  am  advised  that  the  Water  Boards  have  experienced  a  "normal"  rate  of  attrition, 
which  implies  that  employee  retention  is  not  a  significant  problem.  As  mentioned 
above,  pay  equity  is  a  significant  concern  for  Water  Board  employees  from  rank- 
and-file  to  the  Executive  Officer/Director  levels.  I  do  not  know  to  what  extent  pay 
equity  is  a  driver  in  employees'  decisions  to  leave  the  Water  Boards,  but  am  aware 
of  several  instances  where  it  was  a  major  consideration. 

Since  staff  salaries  are  dictated  by  collective  bargaining  agreements,  Water  Board 
management  is  required  to  work  through  the  Department  of  Personnel 
Administration  to  address  pay  equity  issues.  Water  Board  Members  do  not  have 
discretion  on  salary  matters,  including  the  salaries  of  our  exempt  Executive  Officers 
and  Director — and,  given  the  State's  current  fiscal  situation,  I  do  not  expect  this 
issue  to  be  resolved  any  time  soon. 


As  requested,  I  have  enclosed  a  partial  Form  700,  Statement  of  Economic  Interest, 
covering  the  period  of  January  1,  2009  through  June  19,  2009.  Also  enclosed  is  an 
amended  Form  700  covering  calendar  year  2008. 

Thank  you  for  this  opportunity  to  provide  information  to  the  Senate  Rules  Committee. 
Should  you  need  additional  information,  please  contact  me  at  (916)  341-5602. 


Sincerely, 


Tarn  M.  Doduc 
Board  Member 


California  Environmental  Protection  Agency 

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Responses 

WQCB,  Central  Coast 

Statement  of  Goals 

1.      Since  2005  when  you  were  first  appointed,  what  have  been  your  most 
significant  accomplishments  as  a  member  of  the  Central  Coast  Regional 
Water  Quality  Control  Board?  What  do  you  hope  to  accomplish  during  your 
current  tenure  as  a  member  of  the  board?  How  will  you  measure  your 
success? 

Since  becoming  a  Board  member  of  the  Central  Coast  Regional  Water  Quality  Control 
Board  I  have  grown  in  my  role  on  the  Board  in  several  ways.  First,  I  have  worked 
diligently  to  gain  a  functional  understanding  of  the  jurisdiction  and  authority  of  the 
Regional  Board  under  the  federal  Clean  Water  Act  and  the  state  Porter-Cologne  Water 
Quality  Control  Act.   In  part  this  has  occurred  through  the  excellent  quality  of  information 
provided  in  the  form  of  staff  reports  and  background  information  in  preparation  for  each 
hearing.    I  also  actively  seek  information  on  priority  problems  and  issues  related  to 
protecting  and  restoring  water  quality  that  is  important  to  our  region,  and  have  attended 
all  but  two  semi-annual  Water  Quality  Coordinating  Committee  meetings  where  I  have 
actively  engaged  in  program/policy  review  and  strategy  development,  providing  input 
from  a  regional  perspective  to  the  State  Board. 

As  a  Regional  Board  member,  I  have  worked  together  with  my  fellow  Board  members  to 
address  priorities  for  both  proactively  protecting  watershed  functions  across  the  region, 
and  aggressively  identifying  remediation  strategies  to  restore  degraded  watershed 
functions  associated  major  impacts  to  surface  and  groundwater,  as  well  as  to  wetlands 
and  riparian  areas.  A  major  effort  has  been  directed  at  streamlining  the  Phase  II 
Stormwater  Program  review  and  approval  process  to  assure  that  Municipal  Separate 
Storm  Sewer  Systems  (MS4s)  are  progressing  to  program  implementation  in  a  more 
efficient  manner  to  effectively  address  urban  runoff.  This  has  resulted  in  a  more 
systematic  review  and  permit  approval,  with  greater  clarity  and  understanding  of  the 
process  and  of  the  program  components  by  the  MS4s.  Since  our  region  has  only  one 
Phase  I  permitted  Storm  Water  Program  held  by  the  City  of  Salinas,  the  remainder  of 
the  Stormwater  Management  Plans  (SWMPs)  being  developed  or  implemented  in 
Region  3  are  for  Phase  II  MS4s,  and  thus  are  in  their  first  permit  cycle  with  many 
challenges  to  be  met  in  bringing  their  programs  online.  As  a  Board  member,  I  have 
worked  to  move  SWMPs  through  review  and  approval  recognizing  that  as  more  SWMPs 
are  implemented,  benefits  accrue  across  the  region  offering  program  model 
components  to  benefit  other  MS4s  in  the  form  of  effective  "best  management  practices" 
(BMPs),  including  meeting  the  required  standard  of  "maximum  extent  practicable" 

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(MEP)  in  achieving  watershed  scale  protection.  I  have  also  joined  with  my  fellow  Board 
members  in  encouraging  aggressive  staff  support  for  MS4s  to  provide  guidance  and 
technical  assistance  to  each  municipality  or  other  entity  progressing  toward  Board 
review  and  approval.  This  approach  has  demonstrated  that  coordination  of  planning 
and  design  effort  among  geographically  linked  entities  is  an  effective  method  to  support 
collaborative  SWMP  development  and  implementation.   I  anticipate  that  the  annual 
SWMP  reporting  and  review  process  will  also  inform  all  MS4s  in  the  region,  further 
clarifying  program  requirements  and  highlighting  creative  and  cost-effective  methods  as 
model  program  components  are  successfully  implemented.  The  Board  has  encouraged 
all  MS4s  to  work  collaboratively  in  their  first  permit  cycle  with  staff  to  assure  that  they 
are  on  the  right  track  and  that  program  achievements  during  their  first  5-year  permit  will 
meet  all  required  actions. 

Another  important  development  associated  with  the  SWMP  Program  is  incorporation  of 
Low  Impact  Development  (LID)  standards  for  SWMPs  that  will  protect  and  restore 
ecological  and  hydrological  watershed  functions  associated  with  development  and 
redevelopment  within  urban  areas.  While  the  current  climate  for  development  has 
slowed,  our  region  will  see  population  increases  overtime  that  will  require  new  housing 
and  redevelopment  of  urban  areas.  Region  3  has  approached  the  development  of  LID 
in  a  proactive  manner,  working  collaboratively  with  industry  and  with  local  government 
to  initiate  development  standards  that  rely  on  establishing  post-construction 
hydromodification  controfs  to  reduce  urban  runoff  and  improve  infiltration  and  recharge 
of  groundwater  basins.  This  proactive  approach  is  a  high  priority  for  me  as  a  Board 
member  as  I  recognize  the  importance  of  developing  efficient  and  effective  strategies  to 
achieve  new  standards  derived  from  LID  in  ways  that  are  consistent  with  local  priorities 
and  goals  to  meet  housing  needs  for  growth  areas  in  the  region.   Introduction  of  LID  to 
SWMPs  also  aligns  this  program  with  the  region's  vision  to  achieve  healthy  functioning 
watersheds,  providing  strategic  and  measureable  action  in  a  systematic,  long-term  effort 
that  is  part  of  our  region's  coordinated  strategy  to  proactively  protect  watershed 
functions  across  the  region. 

Additionally,  the  Board's  commitment  to  LID  has  resulted  in  establishing  the  Central 
Coast  Low  Impact  Development  Center  as  a  resource  to  provide  technical  and  scientific 
expertise  in  the  region,  as  well  as  offering  a  model  program  for  the  state.   Developed  in 
partnership  with  the  renowned  Maryland  Low  Impact  Development  Center,  the  program 
has  flourished  under  the  direction  of  Dr.  Darla  Inglis,  who  joined  the  program  in  2008. 
Benefits  to  the  region  have  been  achieved  in  just  a  short  time,  as  Dr.  Inglis  has  focused 
on  work  with  the  MS4  communities  in  the  region  to  identify  appropriate  and  cost- 
effective  strategies  for  LID  design  and  implementation.  Through  her  efforts,  the  Storm 
Water  Program  has  shifted  away  from  one  of  resistance  to  finding  ways  to  meet 
program  requirements,  to  working  collaboratively  with  Region  3  staff  toward  permit 
approval.   Dr.  Inglis  has  also  effectively  worked  with  State  Board  staff  assisting  in  their 
efforts  to  maximize  Region  3's  experience  in  bringing  LID  online  for  other  regions.   In 
my  current  term,  I  will  continue  to  focus  on  the  Stormwater  Program  and  to  find  ways  to 


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expand  the  role  of  the  Central  Coast  LID  Center,  including  identifying  long-term  funding 
to  assure  that  the  program  is  self-sustaining. 


Another  aspect  of  my  work  on  the  Board  during  my  first  term  has  contributed  to  a  steady 
focus  and  recognition  of  the  role  of  the  public  in  providing  input  for  Board  consideration 
from  both  the  regulated  community  as  well  as  from  stakeholders  in  the  region.  This 
includes  enforcement  actions,  permit  review  and  approval,  as  well  as  program  review 
and  policy  development.   For  example,  in  a  recent  hearing  on  the  Basin  Plan 
amendment  for  onsite  wastewater  systems,  the  Board  heard  many  stakeholders 
expressing  concern  that  they  did  not  have  access  to  the  current  phase  of  the  process 
for  developing  MOUs  with  local  agencies,  including  opportunities  for  input  to  new  criteria 
for  onsite  system  management  plans.   In  discussion  with  fellow  Board  members,  I 
proposed  that  Region  3  establish  a  website  to  post  Draft  MOUs  to  facilitate  public 
access  and  review  by  providing  all  MOUs  in  one  location  where  stakeholders  could 
track  progress  for  their  area  in  order  to  be  informed  and  prepared  to  engage  in  their 
local  community  review  and  approval  process.  The  staff  immediately  responded  with  an 
excellent  design  that  will  support  a  more  informed  process,  linking  key  documents  with 
informative  background  information  to  help  educate  the  public  on  the  new  Basin  Plan 
criteria,  as  well  as  specific  program  development  for  their  community. 

My  focus  on  public  input  has  also  been  supported  by  my  fellow  Board  members  in 
clarifying  local  concerns  through  follow-up  with  staff,  who  have  demonstrated  a 
commitment  to  providing  follow-up  and  response  to  clearly  stated  stakeholder  concerns 
and  issues  raised,  leading  to  a  more  collaborative  and  better  informed  process.  As  a 
social  scientist,  I  have  contributed  to  staff's  efforts  to  identify  and  incorporate  meaningful 
public  outreach  and  education,  as  well  as  public  participation  in  the  many  programs 
provided  on  a  range  of  issues.   During  my  current  term,  I  will  continue  to  focus  on 
identifying  potential  opportunities  and  direct  staff  to  consider  effective  and  efficient 
options  to  maximize  public  involvement  in  the  various  programs  to  contribute  to  a  strong 
public  outreach  and  involvement  strategy.  I  am  satisfied  that  Region  3  staff  have  made 
this  component  of  their  work  a  high  priority,  although  constrained  by  limited  time  and 
funds,  and  anticipate  that  their  interest  and  response  to  these  issues  will  continue  to 
build  effective  action. 

Last,  I  have  strongly  supported  one  of  Region  3's  most  important  programs  through 
Board  approval  to  continue  funding  for  the  Central  Coast  Ambient  Monitoring  Program 
(CCAMP).  The  mission  of  CCAMP  is  "to  collect,  assess,  and  disseminate  scientifically 
based  water  quality  information  to  aid  decision  makers  and  the  public  in  maintaining, 
restoring,  and  enhancing  water  quality  and  associated  beneficial  uses."  This  program 
has  contributed  approximately  ten  years  of  data  on  coastal  confluence  streams, 
including  both  program  generated  data  (systematic  5-year  watershed  rotation 
throughout  the  region),  and  other  externally  generated  data  (with  appropriate  quality 
assurance  controls)  to  create  a  highly  useful  database  for  access  by  the  public  as  well 


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to  support  the  Region's  program  priorities  and  actions.  This  includes  internal  program 
coordination  with  the  Conditional  Waiver  of  Waste  Discharge  Requirements  for  Irrigated 
Agricultural,  TMDLs  development,  and  will  most  certainly  contribute  to  the  Stormwater 
Management  Program  monitoring  effectiveness.    My  advocacy  of  this  program  has 
extended  beyond  my  role  as  a  Region  3  Board  member,  seeking  opportunities  outside 
Board  actions  to  raise  awareness  of  the  value  and  benefit  of  the  CCAMP  Program,  to 
advocate  for  its  continued  support  through  external  sources  to  assure  that  the  program 
continues  to  gain  and  expand  in  keeping  with  the  Region's  needs  and  uses  for  the 
CCAMP  database.  I  will  continue  to  advocate  for  the  program  in  my  current  term. 

2.    What  do  you  believe  are  the  most  serious  problems  facing  your  regional 
board? 

While  urban  issues  are  being  addressed  through  implementation  of  the  Phase  II 
Stormwater  Program,  agricultural  nonpoint  source  pollution  remains  a  huge  challenge, 
with  many  significant  dimensions  of  agricultural  operations  requiring  changes  in 
practices  to  effectively  reduce  nitrates,  pesticides  and  sediment  due  to  erosion  affecting 
both  surface  waters  and  groundwater.  Of  these,  high  nitrate  levels  are  prevalent  across 
the  region's  watersheds,  and  clearly  present  an  enormous  and  significant  problem  that 
can  only  be  addressed  by  improving  farm  practices  to  reduce  discharge  of 
contaminated  tail  water  and  other  discharges  associated  with  irrigated  agricultural 
operations.  These  changes  include  requiring  irrigation  tail-water  reductions  from  farm 
operations;  improving  efficiencies  of  irrigation  systems;  reducing  fertilizer  applications 
through  nutrient  budgeting;  inspection  of  farm  operations  to  verify  changes  in  practices; 
and  developing  ways  to  track  fertilizer  applications.   Designing  and  implementing  Best 
Management  Practices  (BMPs)  that  achieve  these  changes  is  a  high  priority  for  the 
Irrigated  Ag  Program,  with  required  monitoring  to  access  overall  effectiveness  of  BMP 
implementation. 

Of  great  concern  are  impacts  to  drinking  water  caused  by  high  contaminant  levels 
evident  in  the  fact  that  17%  of  the  public  supply  wells  in  the  region  were  determined  to 
be  contaminated  by  pollutants  as  reported  by  the  Department  of  Water  Resources  in 
2003  (using  data  that  ranged  from  1994  to  2000).  Of  the  17%,  55%  exceeded  public 
health  standards  for  nitrate  in  drinking  water.   Region  3  staff  reports  that  "this  reference 
shows  nitrate  to  be  the  single  most  important  contaminant  of  drinking  water  in  our 
Region."  Additionally,  we  are  lacking  data  to  determine  the  significance  of  impacts  to 
private  and  small  domestic  water  supply  systems,  which  our  Region  will  pursue  through 
analysis  of  existing  data  to  determine  what  information  is  available  to  consider  public 
health  impacts  and  protection  of  privately  owned  water  supply  operations.  Additionally, 
Region  3  staff  is  coordinating  efforts  with  Monterey  County,  the  California  Department  of 
Public  Health  and  the  State  Water  Resources  Control  Board,  in  support  of  SB  X2  1 
(Perata)  requiring  a  study  of  the  Salinas  Valley  to  determine  "causes  and  the  extent  of 
nitrate  contamination  within  the  groundwater  basin  and  evaluate  remedies  to  address 
the  problem."  Region  3  will  play  an  important  role  in  determining  impacts  to  individual 


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domestic  wells  which  is  not  adequately  addressed  in  SB  X2  1,  and  is  working 
cooperatively  with  the  county  to  require  nitrate  sampling  for  permits  on  all  new  wells. 

In  terms  of  protection  of  beneficial  uses,  problems  associated  with  nitrates  and  impacts 
to  surface  water  also  present  immediate  concerns  for  beneficial  use  protections  for 
aquatic  wildlife.  Our  region  has  determined  that  the  drinking  water  standard  of  10  mg/L 
does  not  adequately  protect  sensitive  aquatic  wildlife,  and  through  targeted  study,  has 
determined  that  the  numeric  target  of  1.0  mg/L-N  is  more  adequate  to  protect  beneficial 
uses  of  surface  water  for  aquatic  life.  This  has  lead  to  new  listings  on  the  303d  List  for 
Impaired  Water  Bodies  within  the  region,  and  development  of  Total  Maximum  Daily 
Load  (TMDL)  objectives  that  will  require  significantly  lower  nitrate  concentration  levels 
than  currently  required  for  protection  of  the  public  drinking  water  supply. 

Additionally,  Region  3  has  initiated  a  Nitrate  Working  Group  that  incorporates  staff  from 
different  programs  (Stormwater,  Agriculture,  TMDLs,  etc.)  in  order  to  coordinate  action 
throughout  the  region  to  assure  all  effective  measures  are  applied  systematically 
through  alignment  of  actions  across  programs.  In  my  view,  the  integrated  approach  that 
the  Region  has  utilized  in  developing  a  response  and  proactive  strategy  to  address  the 
nitrate  problem  maximizes  the  resources  and  full  capacity  of  Region  3  staff  to  achieve 
targeted  outcomes  to  the  extent  possible. 

3.   How  does  your  board  help  the  public  understand  the  state  of  water  quality  in 
your  region?  Where  should  the  public  go  for  information  on  water  quality 
issues,  such  as  beach  closures,  sewage  spills,  or  the  overall  quality  of  water 
in  rivers,  streams,  and  ocean  waters  in  your  region? 

As  noted  in  my  response  above,  Region  3  has  lead  the  way  in  designing  and 
implementing  the  Central  Coast  Ambient  Monitoring  Program  (CCAMP)  which  has  over 
the  past  ten  years  been  effectively  utilized  for  many  purposes  including  informing  the 
Board  on  important  trends  in  water  quality  problems,  supported  determination  of  the 
303d  listings  and  development  of  TMDLs,  and  is  also  a  fundamental  component  of 
region-wide  monitoring  and  is  eventually  anticipated  to  house  all  monitoring  data  within 
the  region.  The  CCAMP  database  was  also  designed  from  its  inception  to  provide 
information  to  the  public  and  has  undergone  many  revisions  and  updates  that  have  over 
time  made  the  website  more  easily  accessed  and  offers  'user  friendly"  features  and 
tools  that  allow  the  layperson  to  explore  water  quality  data  and  trends  across  the  region. 
The  CCAMP  database  is  also  the  main  platform  for  Volunteer  Monitoring  Programs 
within  the  region,  supporting  these  activities  through  coordinated  technical  quality 
assurance,  and  improving  the  potential  for  consistency  of  data  within  watersheds  and 
for  specific  rivers  and  creeks  where  volunteer  programs  are  actively  working  to  acquire 
water  quality  information.  Organizations  that  include  the  Coastal  Watershed  Council, 
and  state  agencies  that  include  the  Coastal  Commission  and  federal  agencies  including 
the  Morro  Bay  National  Estuary  Program  and  the  Monterey  Bay  National  Marine 
Sanctuary  have  all  utilized  CCAMP  data,  noting  the  high  value  of  the  program  data  and 


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contribution  to  collective  efforts  to  develop  and  understand  water  quality  problems  in  the 
central  coast  region,  and  to  consider  potential  viable  actions  that  will  lead  to  solutions. 
Region  3  also  conducts  the  Central  Coast  Environmental  Assessment  Network 
(CCLEAN)  which  is  a  program  designed  to  monitor  intertidal  and  nearshore  waters  of 
the  Monterey  Bay  region,  linking  ocean  data  with  the  CCAMP  database.  The  CCLEAN 
Program  serves  as  the  nearshore  monitoring  component  for  the  NPDES  receiving  water 
monitoring  and  reporting  requirements  for  5  entities  that  discharge  to  Monterey  Bay 
including  the  cities  of  Santa  Cruz  and  Watsonville,  Duke  Energy,  the  Monterey  Regional 
Water  Pollution  Control  Agency,  and  the  Carmel  Area  Wastewater  District. 

Information  on  sewage  spills  is  available  via  the  statewide  database  for  the  Sanitary 
Sewer  Overflow  Reduction  Program  accessible  on  the  State  Water  Board  website.  A 
recent  addition  to  the  database  includes  a  map  of  sewage  spill  incidents  that  provides  a 
search  tool  for  investigating  sewage  spills  by  geographic  area.  Additionally,  Regional 
Board  enforcement  reports  also  include  violations  resulting  from  sewage  spills  and 
overflow  incidents  and  are  also  accessible  via  the  web  where  this  regularly  issued 
report  is  linked  to  Board  Agenda  reports  and  documents.  Information  on  beach 
closures  is  currently  not  available  on  the  Regional  Board  website.  However,  the  website 
is  being  revised  and  will  offer  this  information  in  the  future.  Information  is  available  via 
county  websites,  and  is  often  a  component  of  the  County  Public  Health  Department. 
Newspaper  accounts  of  major  beach  closures  are  also  a  source  of  information  for  the 
public  to  remain  advised  on  health  risks  and  beach  closure  actions. 

State  and  Regional  Boards 

The  state  and  regional  boards  were  created  nearly  four  decades  ago.  In  January  2009 
the  Little  Hoover  Commission  issued  a  report  on  improving  the  performance  of  the 
state's  water  boards.  One  of  the  findings  was  that  the  relationship  between  the  state 
and  regional  boards  is  not  well-defined.  This  has  led,  they  believe,  to  inconsistencies 
and  inefficiencies  among  boards,  an  inability  to  set  statewide  priorities,  and  a  lack  of 
focus  by  the  state  board  on  holding  regional  boards  accountable  for  clean  water 
outcomes. 

The  report  also  found  that  there  is  little  focus  on  clean  water  outcomes  or  accountability. 
Regional  boards  admit  they  have  difficulty  in  analyzing  watersheds  to  determine 
whether  their  programs  are  protecting  and  improving  water  quality.  The  regional  water 
boards'  focus  is  more  on  issuing  permits  and  determining  whether  dischargers  abide  by 
permits  than  determining  if  the  water  is  actually  getting  cleaner. 

Another  issue  that  has  been  raised  in  the  past,  and  also  discussed  in  the  recent 
commission  report,  is  that  many  of  the  issues  board  members  have  to  deal  with  are  very 
technical,  and  a  number  of  board  members  are,  basically,  volunteers  and  do  not  have 
such  formal  technical  experience. 


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4.    What  is  your  view  of  the  relationship  between  the  state  board  and  your 
regional  board?  What  type  of  guidance  do  you  receive  from  the  state  board? 

I  believe  that  the  role  of  the  Regional  Boards  and  the  relationship  to  the  State  Board  is 
well  defined,  understanding  that  ongoing  effort  to  improve  and  clarify  the  role  of  each  is 
an  important  aspect  of  continued  growth  of  the  responsibility  of  each  in  meeting  state 
and  federal  regulatory  mandates.  This  is  especially  important  as  the  scientific  and 
technical  basis  for  regulatory  program  development  continues  to  expand  action 
necessary  to  implement  the  Clean  Water  Act  and  the  Porter-Cologne  Water  Quality 
Control  Act  as  the  work  of  these  agencies  progresses  with  addressing  the  many 
complicated  and  not  yet  fully  characterized  problems  associated  with  nonpoint  source 
pollution.   In  my  view,  during  my  term,  the  leadership  of  the  State  Board  in  identifying 
strategic  areas  of  policy  and  program  development,  including  gaps  and  updating  old 
policies,  has  actively  been  conducted  in  coordination  with  Regional  Boards,  who  provide 
the  locally  unique  and  distinct  set  of  priority  problems  associated  with  specific  impacts 
to  water  quality  at  the  regional  scale. 

As  the  State  Board  meets  it  function  in  providing  statewide  policy,  I  believe  that  our 
Region  is  also  meeting  its  obligation  to  consider  region-specific  issues,  in  context  of 
broad  scale  goals  for  protection  of  watershed  functions  and  goals  for  improving  water 
quality  in  surface  and  groundwater.  Our  role,  therefore,  is  to  determine  how  to  apply 
state  policy  through  conditioning  for  permit  approval  that  meets  the  standards  set  by 
state  and  federal  law,  and  enforcement  of  regulations  through  individual  case  review  for 
those  who  fail  to  comply  with  state  and/or  federal  law.  Furthermore,  the  State  Board 
provides  review  of  Regional  Board  decisions,  providing  an  appeal  process  for  those 
who  wish  to  challenge  a  Regional  Board  decision.  Additionally,  legal  counsel  is 
provided  to  the  Region  by  an  attorney  based  in  Sacramento  but  who  is  assigned  to  the 
Region,  and  is  therefore  able  to  actively  participate  in  coordination  across  regions  to 
assure  consistency  where  appropriate  can  occur.  Legal  support  to  the  regions  has  also 
been  augmented  by  the  formation  of  the  State  Board  Office  of  Enforcement,  providing 
legal  staff  to  the  Region  when  necessary,  improving  the  way  cases  are  developed 
across  the  regions. 

The  State  Board  Liaison  to  the  Region  also  attends  Regional  Board  hearings  providing 
updates  on  current  and  future  State  Board  actions  including  program  and  policy 
development  statewide.  Her  attendance  at  Regional  Board  hearings  also  ensures  that 
the  specific  issues  and  priorities  for  our  Region  are  directly  communicated  to  the  State 
Board,  both  through  observation  of  hearing  matters,  and  also  through  direct  exchange 
of  information  with  Board  members  as  a  feature  of  the  State  Board  member's  report  to 
the  Regional  Board  given  formally  during  the  hearing. 

The  Regional  Board  Chair  also  participates  in  a  monthly  conference  call  with  the  State 
Board  Chair  that  is  intended  to  provide  a  forum  for  all  Regional  Chairs  to  discuss  issues 
and  review  upcoming  planned  actions.  As  a  Board  Member,  our  semi-annual  Water 


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Quality  Coordinating  Committee  meetings  have  vastly  improved  communication 
between  the  State  Board  and  Regional  Board  members  in  recent  years,  focusing  on 
critical  statewide  action  items,  leading  policy  debates,  and  in  the  last  two  years, 
providing  a  meaningful  process  for  Regional  Board  members  to  contribute  to  the 
development  of  the  State  Board's  Strategic  Plan  (2008-2012). 

Guidance  from  the  State  has  been  most  effective  in  setting  the  pace  for  improving 
effectiveness,  including  a  shift  toward  becoming  a  "performance  based  organization" 
emphasizing  tangible  outcomes  that  improve  and  protect  watershed  functions.   In  part 
this  effort  was  initiated  by  Region  3  staff,  who  then  collaboratively  presented  our 
program  process  at  a  WQCC  as  a  way  to  launch  State  Board  actions.  This  approach  is 
presented  in  the  Strategic  Plan  (2008-2012)  which  outlines  goals  for  policy  and  program 
implementation  that  prioritize  watershed  scale  actions  "which  stakeholders  identified  as 
the  most  effective  approach  to  manage  and  protect  the  State's  water  resources."  In  our 
Region,  our  strategy  has  been  to  embrace  a  vision  of  healthy  watersheds  that  focuses 
on  attaining  healthy  aquatic  habitat,  sustainable  land  management  practices,  and 
protection  of  groundwater.  This  view  recognizes  the  importance  of  protecting 
hydrological  functions,  inter-relatedness  of  surface  and  groundwater,  as  well  as  the 
important  connections  between  protecting  water  quality  and  water  supply.  These  goals 
have  been  instrumental  in  structuring  Regional  Board  programs  and  to  establish  key 
parameters  intended  to  measure  environmental  improvements  such  as  "physical, 
chemical  and  biological  conditions  in  water,"  and  also  operational  measures  which  are 
intended  to  gage  the  changes  that  occur  as  a  result  of  program  action.  The  later 
includes  measuring  both  actions  taken  by  staff  and  the  Board,  as  well  as  behavioral 
changes  by  dischargers  that  demonstrate  compliance.  Through  collaborative  efforts 
with  State  Board  staff,  our  Region  has  continued  to  pursue  this  approach  to  improving 
program  effectiveness  that  conforms  to  broad  statewide  goals  to  achieve  integration  of 
program  effectiveness  with  measureable  outcomes. 


5.   How  do  you  balance  the  board's  focus  on  the  permitting  process  and  the 
focus  on  broad  policy  issues,  such  as  updating  basin  plans  and  setting 
regional  priorities?  What  is  the  best  use  of  the  board's  time? 

In  my  view  Region  3  staff  as  directed  by  the  Executive  Officer,  has  developed  an 
excellent  process  for  evaluating  program  effectiveness  and  setting  annual  priorities  that 
are  designed  to  maximize  staff  time  and  resources  in  order  to  meet  objectives,  and  also 
to  address  new  and  growing  areas  of  high  priority.   In  part,  priority  issues  are  driven  by 
programmatic  cycles  (e.g.,  the  triennial  review,  reissuing  of  general  permits)  as  well  as 
by  program  mandates  (e.g.,  Stormwater  Program,  TMDL  Program).  This  aspect  of  the 
Board's  function  is  most  efficiently  conducted  by  staff  who  provide  excellent  background 
reports  and  clearly  stated  and  presented  recommended  actions  for  Board  consideration. 
Additionally,  because  staff  preparations  involves  work  directly  with  the  regulated 
community,  review  and  updating  permit  conditions  often  moves  forward  efficiently 


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through  "consent"  following  Board  review,  allowing  the  Board  to  proceed  with  approval 
when  appropriate.  The  Board  does  discuss  any  issues  that  need  further  explanation  or 
additional  information  that  are  presented  to  the  Board  for  approval  under  the 
"uncontested"  category,  but  often  staff  reports  adequately  present  the  facts  on  the 
matter,  and  the  discharger  has  waived  the  hearing,  also  satisfied  with  the  process.  My 
experience  has  been  that  when  the  Board  does  inquire  further  into  the  details  of  a 
"consent"  item,  staff  is  always  prepared  with  information  necessary  for  further 
consideration  by  the  Board,  legal  counsel  is  prepared,  and  the  Executive  Officer  also  is 
ready  to  provide  additional  details  and  information  in  response  to  Board  inquiry  in  the 
course  of  the  hearing  allowing  the  Board  to  proceed.  Therefore,  the  process  is  one  that 
has  been  made  more  efficient  through  excellent  preparation  by  staff  and  legal  counsel, 
and  through  Board  preparedness  and  inquiry  in  hearing  the  matter  and  reaching  a 
decision. 

Program  and  policy  issues  are  also  effectively  addressed  and  I  feel  are  given  adequate 
time  by  the  Board,  again  due  to  the  fact  that  Region  3  staff  has  developed  and 
implemented  an  outstanding  comprehensive  process  for  evaluating  both  short-term 
performance  in  achieving  goals,  as  well  as  long-term  strategies  for  keeping  pace  with 
emerging  priorities,  and  building  program  effectiveness.   In  part  this  occurs  through  the 
annual  "off-site"  meeting  conducted  in  a  less  formal  manner  than  the  hearing  format, 
and  is  also  intended  to  review  the  broad  set  of  program  objectives  set  from  year  to  year, 
evaluate  and  reassess  outcomes  and  progress  to  meet  goals,  and  identify  and  focus  on 
essential  priority  actions  for  the  coming  year.  The  structure  for  this  process  has  been 
developed  as  part  of  the  "healthy  watershed"  vision  that  links  broad  goals  with  tangible 
objectives  and  outcomes.  For  example,  goals  linked  to  achieving  healthy  aquatic 
habitat  have  created  the  basis  for  developing  a  basin  plan  amendment  for  riparian 
protection.  In  this  manner,  the  watershed  focus  and  related  broad  policy  issues  lead  to 
effectively  utilizing  the  basin  plan  as  a  mechanism  to  achieve  a  strategic  outcome. 

In  considering  the  best  use  of  the  Board's  time,  I  am  satisfied  that  our  focus  on  policy 
and  program  effectiveness  are  setting  a  pace  that  has  already  shown  impressive  results 
(LID  Center,  Stormwater  Program,  TMDL  Program).   I  am  also  satisfied  that  the  Board's 
time  and  focus  on  individual  cases,  and  on  allowing  for  a  full  hearing  for  those 
dischargers  who  are  seeking  a  thorough  review  and  who  are  facing  enforcement  action 
or  reissuing  of  a  complicated  discharge  permit,  also  demands  the  Board's  full  attention. 
In  these  actions,  our  Region  has  demonstrated  their  commitment  to  providing  a  fair 
process  in  which  individuals  who  wish  to  dispute  water  quality  regulations  or  permit 
conditions,  monitoring  requirements,  etc.,  can  receive  a  fair  hearing.  The  Regional 
hearing  process  is  one  of  our  most  important  functions  in  that  these  proceedings  are 
conducted  as  near  to  a  given  community  as  possible,  they  are  accessible  by  diverse 
stakeholders  form  within  the  region,  and  they  provide  an  important  forum  in  which  to 
review  all  sides  of  the  issues  and  consider  conflicting  needs  and  points  of  view.  This 
function  cannot  be  diminished,  and  is  a  unique  aspect  of  the  Board's  work  that  centers 
the  importance  and  value  of  protecting  water  quality  and  quantity  in  the  region  where 


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the  practice  is  occurring,  where  local  residents  can  participate  in  and  contribute  to  the 
action  of  the  state  to  protect  water  quality  and  beneficial  uses  for  all. 


6.   How  do  the  state  board  and  your  regional  board  staff  assist  you  to  better 
understand  some  of  the  complex  issues  before  you?  Do  you  have  any 
suggestions  on  how  the  state  water  board's  staff  might  better  assist  you? 

As  noted  in  an  earlier  answer,  at  the  regional  level,  the  staff  prepares  reports  for  each 
individual  hearing  item.  These  reports  are  organized  to  present  background  (the  history 
of  the  permit  or  enforcement  action),  current  information  and  status  of  the  problem,  and 
recommended  actions  that  also  provide  a  context  for  understanding  the  outcomes  being 
sought.  Additionally,  staff  presentations  during  the  hearing  are  very  well  organized  and 
highly  effective  in  conveying  the  essential  high  points  for  Board  consideration,  and  if 
appropriate,  provide  more  details  on  any  disputed  or  problematic  aspect  of  the  issue. 
These  presentations  also  include  informative  visual  information  that  is  always 
instrumental  in  conveying  the  nature  and  extent  of  the  problem,  illustrating  through 
tabled  format  or  mapped  data  presenting  past  trends  and  projected  future  progress, 
defining  areas  where  action  is  not  sufficient  and  more  is  needed,  including  greater 
mitigation  or  further  study.  Additionally,  staff  reports,  public  comments  and  any  related 
reports  or  studies  are  sent  well  in  advance  of  the  hearing  in  order  to  provide  adequate 
time  for  review  and  preparation  by  Board  members,  including  website  links  to  technical 
reports  and  other  supporting  documentation.  I  am  also  able  to  submit  questions  in 
advance  of  the  hearing  and  request  further  information  which  is  always  provided  as 
requested  to  assist  me  in  gaining  a  full  understanding  of  any  given  issue  related  to  a 
hearing  matter.  Additionally,  I  have  access  to  legal  counsel  for  the  Board,  who  can 
provide  additional  information  or  direct  me  to  further  information  as  I  prepare  for  a 
hearing. 

State  Board  assistance,  as  noted,  occurs  in  several  ways,  including  the  semi-annual 
Water  Quality  Coordinating  Committee,  as  well  as  review  of  legal  issues  with  State 
Board  legal  counsel  that  occurs  as  part  of  the  WQCC.  These  meetings  are  instrumental 
in  gaining  the  statewide  picture,  hearing  from  other  regions  throughout  the  course  of  the 
two-day  sessions,  as  well  as  from  hearing  directly  from  State  Board  legal  counsel  who 
review  recent  court  decisions  that  may  have  implications  for  the  work  of  the  Regional 
Boards.  As  a  regular  event,  our  State  Board  Liaison,  currently  Fran  Spivey  Weber, 
attends  Regional  Board  hearings,  and  reports  to  the  Board  on  State  Board  matters  as 
an  agendized  item,  allowing  for  questions  and  comments  to  be  exchanged  during  the 
public  hearing  process.  Additionally,  the  State  Liaison  remains  in  attendance  in  the 
hearing  to  directly  observe  issues  and  concerns  that  are  occurring  in  the  Region. 

In  my  short  experience  on  the  Board,  State  Board  efforts  to  connect  with  the  regions, 
and  to  provide  meaningful  and  productive  statewide  work  sessions  that  focus  on  broad 
policy  and  program  effectiveness  issues  has  greatly  improved  from  my  very  first  WQCC 


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meeting,  to  more  recent  meetings  conducted  by  Chair  Doduc.  My  commitment  to  the 
process  is  also  clear  in  that  I  have  attended  all  but  two  of  the  WQCC  meetings  since 
2005,  and  in  both  cases  was  unable  to  attend  due  to  illness.  I  anticipate  that  as  the 
State  Board  proceeds  with  implementation  of  the  Strategic  Plan  (2008-2012),  Regional 
Board  involvement  will  continue  to  play  an  important  role  to  allow  input  from  the 
Regions  to  State  Board  program  development,  and  that  this  interaction  will  continue  to 
define  Regional  needs  that  will  be  the  focus  of  future  program  development  to  the 
extent  possible,  providing  needed  support  to  the  Regions. 

To  the  extent  possible,  I  am  eager  to  have  the  opportunity  to  explore  statewide  issues 
through  formats  like  the  WQCC,  where  intensive  focus  on  water  quality  matters  can 
increase  my  knowledge  and  understanding  of  the  challenges  facing  the  state.  I  feel  that 
the  Regional  Board  support  for  Board  members  is  very  well  conducted,  and  therefore,  I 
have  no  suggestions  for  improvements  other  than  to  hope  that  no  further  cutbacks  in 
staffing  occur  that  could  seriously  affect  the  current  level  of  quality  of  performance  by 
staff. 


Enforcement 

In  2005  the  Office  of  the  Secretary  of  Cal/EPA  reported  to  the  Legislature  on 
environmental  enforcement  and  suggested  that  the  state  and  regional  water  boards 
were  among  the  worst  agencies  in  enforcing  the  law.  In  2008  the  state  board,  in  its 
Strategic  Plan  2008-2012,  said  it  would  adopt  an  updated  water  quality  enforcement 
policy  by  December  2008.  That  enforcement  policy  will  now  not  be  adopted  until  mid  to 
late  2009.  On  January  1 ,  2009,  the  state  board  published  its  2008  enforcement  report. 
Among  other  things,  it  showed  the  number  of  violations  that  were  imposed  by  regional 
boards  compared  to  completed  enforcement  actions.  For  the  four-year  period  from  2005 
through  2008,  the  Central  Coast  regional  water  board  scored  a  low  of  16  percent  in 
2008  and  a  high  of  63  percent  in  2005  in  wastewater  violations  compared  to  completed 
enforcement  actions.  This  is  well  below  the  average  of  the  nine  regional  boards.  For 
stormwater  violations  compared  to  completed  enforcement  actions,  the  board  scored  a 
low  of  87  percent  in  2008  and  a  high  of  99  percent  in  2005.  This  is  about  average  for 
the  nine  regional  boards. 

7.    What  is  your  view  on  how  your  board  should  enforce  water  quality  laws? 
When  are  fines  and  penalties  appropriate,  and  when  are  more  informal  actions 
necessary? 

Regulated  activities  that  fall  under  the  jurisdiction  of  the  Regional  Board,  whether 
through  a  discharge  permit  or  through  other  mechanisms  for  protection  of  water  quality, 
are  subject  to  monitoring  and  reporting,  or  other  methods  to  assure  compliance, 
including  field  inspections,  characterization,  study  and  documentation  of  onsite 
practices  and  remediation  when  required.  The  Region  has  moved  to  electronic 


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reporting  and  documentation  that  has  greatly  advanced  the  Board's  ability  to  identify 
and  track  violations,  including  repeat  offensives  by  a  given  discharger,  and  to  also 
identify  specific  violations  and  their  links  to  priority  problems  (e.g.,  contaminated 
discharge  that  contributes  to  nitrate  levels  in  surface  and  groundwater,  or  illicit 
discharge  associated  with  industrial  waste  or  construction  site  activities). 

The  Executive  Officer  has  the  authority  to  take  initial  action  on  violations  and  to 
determine  the  level  of  severity  under  the  law  and  to  act  in  accordance  with  prescribed 
minimum  actions,  including  determining  when  fines  or  penalties  must  be  considered. 
This  approach  includes  several  levels  of  informal  actions  including  opportunities  for  the 
discharger  to  meet  with  staff  to  discuss  options  for  corrective  action  and  to  determine 
any  available  assistance  that  may  be  provided  to  facilitate  immediate  action  and 
resolution.  Region  3  has  utilized  these  informal  steps  in  addressing  violations  in  order 
to  focus  on  eliminating  poor  practices  and  introducing  more  appropriate  practices  as 
quickly  as  possible.    Consideration  of  fines  and  penalties  involves  review  of  a  complex 
set  of  criteria  including  mandatory  minimum  penalties,  any  economic  benefit  derived 
from  failing  to  comply  with  water  quality  regulations,  or  failure  to  take  steps  required 
through  a  time  schedule  order  designed  to  reduce  or  eliminate  poor  practices,  and  to 
implement  systems  and  operations  that  comply  with  the  law.  Additionally,  consideration 
of  the  impact  of  recalcitrant  behavior  on  other  dischargers,  even  if  considered  minor 
violations  such  as  late  reporting,  or  failing  to  comply  with  monitoring  program 
requirements,  should  also  be  viewed  for  the  message  that  is  conveyed  across  the 
industry  or  to  local  permitted  agencies,  in  allowing  seemingly  minor  actions  to  go 
without  penalty.  This  is  especially  true  where  failure  to  monitor  as  required  later  reveals 
undetected  water  quality  impacts  that  are  evident  once  monitoring  comes  into 
compliance.  In  another  example,  the  Regional  Board  reviewed  a  case  where  a 
discharger  had  failed  to  file  monitoring  reports  and  other  required  reporting 
documentation,  and  on  field  inspection  was  found  to  be  in  violation  of  the  permit,  with  a 
broken  irrigation  system  discharging  directly  to  an  adjacent  creek.    This  case  was 
brought  to  the  Board  and  resulted  in  penalties  assessed  for  all  violations  sending  a 
strong  message  to  the  discharger  and  others  in  the  industry  that  failure  to  comply  with 
monitoring  and  reporting  will  not  be  overlooked  by  the  Board  and  will  be  pursued. 


8.   How  do  you  prioritize  your  enforcement  activities,  given  current  budget 
constraints? 

All  violations  are  tracked  by  staff  and  are  subject  to  systematic  evaluation  by 
enforcement  staff  to  determine  required  action  including  minimum  mandatory  penalties 
(MMP).   Evaluation  criteria  for  determining  appropriate  enforcement  actions  include 
both  policy  aspects  (is  the  violation  contributing  to  a  high  priority  regional  problem),  as 
well  as  considering  the  extent  and  severity  of  a  violation,  and  the  environmental 
damage  resulting  from  the  violation.  Additionally,  enforcement  actions  also  require 


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consideration  of  the  discharger's  past  history,  whether  there  have  been  improvements 
or  other  efforts  made  to  eliminate  the  problem,  and  whether  there  is  any  economic 
benefit  for  failing  to  meet  water  quality  regulations.  Recent  efforts  to  establish  an 
electronic  database  will  greatly  enhance  our  ability  in  the  future  to  assess  trends  across 
different  practices  (e.g.,  landfill  management,  industrial  site  chemical  spills,  wastewater 
system  operational  failures  and  spills,  etc.).  Enforcement  reports  to  the  Board  now 
display  quarterly  updates  of  all  violations  regardless  of  the  level  of  severity,  providing 
Board  comments  and  direction  to  staff  on  issues  of  concern,  and  contributing  to 
prioritization  of  enforcement  actions.    While  the  current  transition  to  the  electronic 
reporting  format  and  integration  of  violation  reports  and  other  relevant  data  are  not  yet 
perfectly  synchronized,  Board  oversight  will  continue  to  direct  staff  as  this  new  approach 
is  refined. 


9.    Without  a  current  formal  state  board  policy  on  enforcement,  how  does  your 
board  determine  it  is  consistent  in  its  enforcement  practices  with  other 
regional  boards? 

There  is  an  existing  State  Board  policy  in  effect  at  this  time,  and  this  policy  continues  to 
provide  guidance  on  enforcement  actions.  While  the  policy  was  last  updated  in  2002,  it 
is  fundamentally  consistent  with  the  Clean  Water  Act  and  with  the  state's  Porter 
Cologne  Water  Quality  Control  Act.  The  State  Board  Office  of  Enforcement,  under 
Program  Director  Reed  Sato,  has  undertaken  action  to  update  and  revise  the  current 
Water  Quality  Enforcement  Policy  for  the  state  that  includes  input  from  the  regions 
through  the  formation  of  an  Executive  Steering  Committee  including  Regional  Board 
Executive  Officers,  who  have  engaged  in  review  of  the  draft  revised  guidelines  and  also 
to  consider  public  comment  received  on  the  draft.  This  process  is  underway  at  this  time 
and  continues  to  make  progress  and  was  most  recently  reviewed  by  the  State  Board  in 
February  2009. 

Additionally,  Region  3  Enforcement  Staff  actively  engage  in  the  Statewide  Enforcement 
Roundtable,  providing  regular  interaction  among  the  regions  regarding  enforcement 
practices  and  trends.  Additionally,  the  Board  also  receives  legal  guidance  on 
enforcement  matters  from  our  legal  counsel,  who  is  assigned  to  the  Region,  and  who 
also  works  closely  with  legal  counsel  from  State  Board  as  well  as  from  the  other 
Regions.   In  this  manner,  there  is  a  constant  review  and  exchange  of  information 
regarding  trends  in  enforcement  practices  across  the  regions  and  with  State  Board  staff. 

Last,  the  State  Board  provides  summaries  and  reports  of  significant  enforcement 
actions,  including  reports  issued  by  Executive  Director  Dorothy  Rice.  These  reports 
provide  information  on  key  actions  and  upcoming  cases  that  will  come  before  the  State 
Board  and  help  to  define  large  scale  issues  of  importance  statewide. 


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Irrigated  Agricultural  Lands — Waiver  of  Discharge  Requirements 

In  2004  the  Board  adopted  a  conditional  waiver  of  waste  discharge  requirements  for 
discharges  from  irrigated  agricultural  lands.  This  Board  order  will  expire  in  July  this  year. 
Board  staff  is  now  revising  language  for  a  new  Board  order  for  irrigated  agriculture  that 
will  provide  a  schedule  to  comply  with  various  discharge  requirements.  Board  staff  does 
not  expect  to  have  the  revised  language  ready  by  the  time  the  current  order  expires  this 
July. 

10.  How  will  the  board  deal  with  the  expiration  of  the  order  for  irrigated 

agricultural  lands  this  July?  If  the  board  extends  the  current  order,  will  it  be 
strengthened  in  any  manner  pending  the  development  of  new  language? 

The  current  Conditional  Waiver  for  Discharges  from  Irrigated  Lands  permit  was  issued 
in  July  2004.  The  first  permit  period  (5  years)  of  this  program  have  resulted  in 
enrollment  of  1737  growers  of  the  estimated  2200  to  2500  in  the  region,  representing  a 
total  of  395,000  acres  of  irrigated  land  (June  2009).  This  includes  providing  program 
information  and  educational  outreach  and  technical  coursework  in  other  languages 
including  Spanish  and  Chinese  to  name  two.  The  Conditional  Ag  Waiver  Program 
requires  all  commercial  growers  with  irrigated  agriculture  farm  operations  to  complete  a 
15-hour  course  in  managing  farm  water  quality,  develop  an  on-site  farm  water  quality 
plan,  and  conduct  monitoring  of  their  farm  operations  either  through  the  cooperative 
monitoring  program  or  individually.  Staff  has  been  engaged  in  stakeholder  meetings 
initiated  in  2008  to  review  the  current  Conditional  Waiver  Program  and  consider 
recommended  changes  and  new  elements  for  the  Conditional  Waiver  with  input  from 
the  Agricultural  Advisory  Panel  (established  in  2003)  that  includes  representatives  of  the 
agricultural  community  and  other  diverse  community  groups.  Staff  has  also  sought 
input  from  other  interested  parties  and  organizations  including  municipalities  water 
districts,  other  resource  agencies,  environmental  groups  and  environmental  justice 
organizations. 

At  our  February  2009  Board  hearing,  staff  presented  an  update  on  the  Irrigated  Ag 
Conditional  Waiver  review  process.  Public  comment  on  the  hearing  item  included  many 
of  the  Agricultural  Advisory  Panel  members,  as  well  as  others  who  expressed  many 
diverse  perspectives  on  the  proposed  revisions  to  the  permit,  including  the  request  that 
the  scope  of  revisions  be  limited.  On  the  suggestion  of  the  Executive  Officer,  the  Board 
endorsed  the  view  that  Board  review  should  include  the  full  range  of  proposed  changes 
and  water  quality  issues  in  order  to  assure  that  all  aspects  of  impacts  to  water  quality 
are  considered  by  the  Board  in  making  its  final  determination  on  the  new  conditions  for 
the  Conditional  Waiver.   I  anticipate  that  the  July  staff  report  presenting  the  best  options 
for  extending  the  permit  will  include  a  proposed  revised  schedule  for  completing  the 
permit  review  that  will  comprise  a  finite  period  at  which  time  the  Board  will  be  presented 
with  the  final  Conditional  Waiver  permit  conditions  for  the  new  permit  cycle.   It  is  also 


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likely  that  there  will  be  many  stakeholders  whose  views  will  be  submitted  to  the  Board  in 
writing,  and  also  who  will  attend  the  hearing  to  comment  formally  during  the  hearing, 
which  the  Board  will  also  consider  in  making  their  final  determination.  Therefore,  at  this 
time,  it  is  not  possible  to  know  what  action  the  Board  will  take.  However,  I  am  confident 
that  the  work  that  is  being  conducted  at  this  time,  and  that  will  continue  to  occur  during 
the  extension  of  the  current  permit,  will  lead  to  a  revised  permit  that  incorporates 
necessary  changes  and  strengthens  the  actions  necessary  to  assure  water  quality 
protections  are  being  achieved  reducing  pesticides,  nitrates,  and  other  contaminants 
associated  with  irrigated  agricultural  activities  from  entering  surface  water  and 
groundwater. 

11.  What  types  of  schedules  for  compliance  does  the  board  envision  with  the  new 
language  regulating  agricultural  discharge? 

The  current  Irrigated  Ag  Conditional  Waiver  permit  incorporated  a  schedule  that  allowed 
for  phased  program  implementation  that  included  cooperative  participation  in  the 
program  in  the  initial  stages,  with  increasing  levels  of  requirements  including 
enforcement  action,  as  the  program  progressed  during  the  first  five-year  permit  period. 
This  program  was  effectively  managed  through  cooperative  partnering  between  the 
Regional  Board,  the  growers,  UC  Extension,  the  Farm  Bureau  and  others  who  play  a 
role  in  conducting  the  educational  components,  technical  assistance,  the  monitoring 
program,  field  inspections  and  program  review.   I  anticipate  that  the  next  permit  will 
carry  equally  effective  and  aggressive  time  constraints  for  compliance,  and  that  the 
associated  agency  and  organizational  support  will  also  work  collaboratively  to  meet 
scheduled  requirements  and  program  mandates  as  effectively  as  they  have  during  the 
current  permit  period. 


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Senate  Rules  Committee  Appointments  Director 

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TO:  SENATOR  DARRELL  STEINBERG 

FROM:  RUSSELL  M.  JEFFRIES,  CCRWQCB 

RE:  Responses  to  questions  from  the  California  Senate  Rules  Committee 


Dear  Senator  Steinberg: 

Please  accept  these  responses  to  your  letter  of  May  1 1 ,  2009  regarding  my  service  on 
the  Central  Coast  Regional  Water  Quality  Control  Board.  Should  you  have  any  further 
questions  of  me,  please  contact  me  so  that  I  may  respond  to  your  requests. 

1.      What  have  been  your  most  significant  accomplishments  as  a  member  of  the 
Central  Coast  Regional  Water  Quality  Control  Board?  What  do  you  hope  to 
accomplish  during  your  current  tenure  as  a  member  of  the  board?  How  will 
you  measure  your  success? 

My  most  significant  accomplishments  during  my  tenure  on  the  Board  have  been: 

a.  The  resolution  of  litigation  and  the  implementation  of  comprehensive 
mitigation  strategies  and  regional  mitigation  programs  resulting  from  the 
settlement  of  suits  concerning  Diablo  Canyon  Nuclear  Power  Plant; 

b.  The  resolution,  clean-up,  and  restoration  of  coastal,  wetlands,  and  beach 
resources  that  were  severely  contaminated  from  leaking  oil  pipelines  in 
coastal  San  Luis  Obispo  County  : 

c.  The  resolution  of  and  the  development  of  a  new,  comprehensive  sanitary 
sewer  plant  for  the  City  of  Hollister; 

d.  Our  success  in  establishing  the  first  agricultural  waiver  program  in 
California  that  was  not  challenged  by  any  of  the  interested  parties  and 
stakeholders. 

e.  Provision  of  funding  for  significant  wetlands  creation  and  enhancement 
programs  proximate  to  the  Elkhorn  Slough  National  Estuarine  Reserve 
and  the  Monterey  Bay  National  Marine  Sanctuary 

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My  goals  for  the  next  four  years  are  as  follows: 

Short  Term  Goals 

•  Establishment.  Implementation,  and  enforcement  of  effective  storm 
water  standards  for  permits  for  municipalities  (Phase  I  and  II  work) 

•  Near  term  TMDL  implementation  tasks 

•  Efficient  regulation  of  agricultural  discharges  -  waiver  policy  review, 
plus  a  combination  of  education  and  outreach,  inspections,  monitoring,  and 
enforcement 

•  Produce  Low  Intensity  Development  (LID) strategies  to  resolve  basin 
management  conflicts  with  land  use  decisions  by  local  governments 

•  Power  plant  permitting 

•  Environmental  problem  solving  approaches:  conclusion  of  pilot 
projects  -  greenhouses  and  agriculture  runoff 

•  Continued  dry  cleaner  and  other  solvent  site  cleanups 

•  Landfills  -  continued  modernization  to  lined  cells,  with  continued 
leachate  controls 

Long  Term  Goals 

TMDL  implementation  tasks  /  conservation  easement  programs 

Storm  water  -  continue  Phase  I  and  II  work,  address  coastal  priority 

issues 

Gasoline  leak  site  cleanup 

Oil  production  legacy  cleanup 

Municipal  system  compliance,  including  collection  systems 

Power  plant  mitigation  implementation 

Landfills  -  continued  modernization  to  lined  cells,  with  continued 

leachate  controls 

Dry  cleaners  and  other  solvent  site  cleanups 

Expanded  use  of  environmental  problem  solving  approach  as 

warranted  by  pilot  projects 

My  success  in  the  pursuit  and  achievement  of  these  goals  over  the  next  four 
years  will  best  be  judged  by  the  objective  evaluations  of  the  stakeholders, 
members  of  the  legislature,  and  the  public  whose  health  and  safety  must  be 
our  highest  priority.  Further,  the  collective  success  of  the  Water  Boards'  in 
California  will  be  a  function  of  the  magnitude  of  financial  and  staff  reductions 
that  will  result  during  the  anticipated  economic  downturn  and  the  budget 
adjustment  that  will  now  be  required  as  a  result  of  the  most  recent  elections. 


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2.      What  do  you  believe  are  the  most  serious  problems  facing  your  regional 
board? 

a.  Municipal  and  Agricultural  storm  water  runoff  regulation  -  Our  LID  stormwater  work  is 
more  focused  on  preventing  future  degradation  of  our  watersheds. 

We  have  more  significant  current  degradation,  however,  in  many  parts  of  our  region, 
from  agricultural  operations.  Many  of  our  receiving  waters  suffer  from  nitrate,  pesticides 
(toxicity),  and  sediment  due  to  agricultural  runoff  and  percolation  to  groundwater.  Our 
agricultural  order  dates  to  2004,  and  in  the  meantime  during  my  tenure  on  the  Board, 
we  have  tracked  the  on-going  implementation  of  this  new  regulatory  framework.  We 
have  directed  staff  to  be  strategic  in  our  oversight  of  this  program,  to  make  the  most 
progress  feasible.  We  have  used  a  combination  of  education  and  outreach, 
inspections,  monitoring,  and  enforcement  (including  administrative  civil  liabilities)  to 
push  this  program  along.  The  staff  is  working  on  the  renewal  of  our  order  and  we  have 
had  discussions  at  our  board  meeting  with  stakeholders,  including  members  of  our 
agricultural  advisory  group.  That  group  has  requested  more  time  to  tackle  the  difficult 
issue  of  how  to  make  the  program  even  more  effective  and  staff  will  be  bringing  and 
item  to  the  Board  in  July  to  extend  the  existing  order  while  update  work  continues.  Of 
course,  staff  will  continue  with  regulatory  oversight  to  bring  about  implementation 
improvements  in  the  meantime  until  a  revised  order  comes  before  our  board.  Recently, 
two  of  our  staff  have  become  bilingual  certified  and  most  of  their  demand  for  services 
has  come  from  our  regulation  of  agricultural  enterprises  of  small  farmers.  We  have 
invited  Environmental  Justice  Coalition  representatives  to  our  July  Board  meeting  to 
discuss  water  quality  and  environmental  justice,  and  one  of  the  biggest  issues  is  the 
problem  of  individual  wells  with  high  nitrate  in  agricultural  areas.  We  are  proposing 
measures  to  attack  this  problem  via  source  control  (long  term)  and  water  treatment  or 
alternative  water  supply. 

b.  Overpumping  of  percolated  groundwater  supplies  (from  severely  overdrafted 
groundwater  basins)  by  uncooperative  and/or  irresponsible  municipalities  that  results  in 
groundwater  overdrafts,  severe. seawater  intrusion,  and  aggravation  and  concentration 
of  pollutants  in  the  remaining,  and  degraded,  groundwater  supplies  that  then  pose 
acute,  and  often  permanent  threats,  to  public  water  supplies  and  the  public's  health  and 
safety.  Particularly  in  overdrafted  groundwater  basins  (Pajaro  Valley  and  Salinas  Valley) 
in  Santa  Cruz  and  Monterey  Counties,  local  governmental  entities  have  systematically 
failed  to  prohibit  new  developments  that  lack  "new  water  supplies"  to  sustain  them.  In 
these  overdrafted  groundwater  basins,  the  law  in  California  has  been  clear  for  over  100 
years.  .  .  "there  is  no  surplus  groundwater  in  an  overdrafted,  non-adjudicated  percolated 
groundwater  basin  for  new  appropriators.  Ever-increasing  extractions  of  limited  and 
declining  percolated  groundwater  by  cities,  counties,  and  even  some  so-called  "water 
management"  agencies,  which  is  necessitated  due  to  their  historic  failure  to  produce 
any  new  water  resources,  is  causing  a  grave,  and  largely  irreversible  diminishment  and 
degradation  of  the  quality  and  purity  of  the  groundwater  on  which  our  current  citizens 
and  our  economies  depend.  This  is  a  huge  and  ever-increasing  problem  that  local 
governments  seem  to  lack  the  knowledge  and  the  "political  will"  to  address. 


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3.      How  does  your  board  help  the  public  understand  the  state  of  water  quality  in 
your  region?  Where  should  the  public  go  for  information  on  water  quality 
issues,  such  as  beach  closures,  sewage  spills,  or  the  overall  quality  of  water 
in  rivers,  streams,  and  ocean  waters  in  your  region? 

The  public  should  come  to  us  for  information  and  we  try  to  do  our  very  best  to  humbly 
provide  the  public  with  the  greatest  amount  of  information  that  we  can.  Further,  our 
board  coordinates  with  local  governments  to  insure  timely  distribution  of  information 
throughout  our  jurisdiction.  We  obtain  understanding  of  our  water  quality  issues  through 
monitoring  our  resources.  We  coordinate  our  monitoring  efforts  with  all  stakeholders: 
e.g.,  volunteer  monitoring  programs,  US  EPA  (e.g.,  the  paired  watershed  monitoring 
program),  National  Estuary  Programs,  etc.,  which  increases  water  quality  awareness 
with  all  stakeholders.  Our  Board  set  about  the  task  of  creating  a  regional  monitoring 
program  about  15  years  ago  and  today  has  the  only  true  regional  program  in  the  state 
(the  SF  Bay  program,  for  example,  only  deals  with  the  estuary,  not  the  entire  region). 
Our  Central  Coast  Ambient  Monitoring  Program,  CCAMP  has  been  up  and  running  for 
over  ten  years  and  we  are  constantly  improving  it.  It  is  instrumental  in  helping  the  public 
to  understand  the  quality  of  our  waters.  Our  CCAMP  site  has  information  on  the  quality 
of  our  waters:  right  in  the  middle  of  our  home  page  is  a  button  called  Ambient 
Monitoring  Program,  which  takes  our  stakeholders  to  our  CCAMP  site: 
http://www.ccamp.org/  .  It  provides  the  user  with  a  wealth  of  data  on  waters  throughout 
our  region,  both  in  a  quick,  at  a  glance  red  and  green  report  card  format  as  well  as  more 
complex  graphs  with  averages  and  ranges  of  data.  CCAMP  is  a  program  and  web  site 
recognized  by  some  of  the  nation's  leading  monitoring  experts  and  data  users  as  the 
best  of  its  kind  anywhere.  Coastkeeper  Alliance  wrote  recently,  "CCAMP  has  been  a 
model  for  the  rest  of  the  state  on  how  to  best  leverage  limited  monitoring  funds  and 
create  useful  information  about  the  health  of  Central  Coast  waters."  The  Department  of 
Fish  and  Games  Office  of  Spill  Prevention  and  Responses  Administrator  wrote  that, 
"CCAMP  has  been  collecting  valuable  data  that  can  be  used  to  improve  the  health  of 
our  watersheds."  The  Executive  Director  of  the  Coastal  Watershed  Council  wrote  two 
years  ago,  "Over  the  past  nine  years,  the  Coastal  Watershed  Council  has  worked 
closely  with  CCAMP  to  involve  hundreds  of  volunteers  in  this  important  monitoring 
work... CCAMP  has  received  high  marks  in  carrying  out  the  intent  of  the  California 
legislature  as  passed  into  law  through  AB  1429  which  addressed  monitoring  of  the 
State's  coastal  watersheds,  AB  982  which  addressed  among  other  issues  the  need  for 
comprehensive  ongoing  water  quality  monitoring,  and  AB  1070  which  calls  for  improved 
public  access  to  water  quality  information.  In  addition,  CCAMP  is  conducting  monitoring 
following  stakeholder  recommendations  expressed  in  the  AB  982  Advisory  Group 
Report  to  the  State  Water  Board."  "...the  Resources  Legacy  Foundation  has  funded 
two  projects  focused  on  enhancing  monitoring  in  the  Central  Coast  area... CCAMP  data 
provides  the  foundation  for  this  project  with  CCAMP's  long-term  sites  providing  the 
most  important  source  of  watershed  trend  data."  At  that  same  time,  the  Coastal 
Commission's  Water  Quality  Coordinator,  Ross  Clark,  wrote  that,  "...the  Regional 
Board's  CCAMP  program  has  been  a  strong  partner  in  our  regions  efforts  to  integrate 
science  with  land  use  policy  and  the  restoration  of  water  quality.    Regional  Board 


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monitoring  staff  have  participated  in  a  number  of  the  regions  multi  agency  water  quality 
programs  including  the  Monterey  Bay  Sanctuary  Water  Quality  Protection  Program,  the 
Central  Coast  water  Quality  Data  Synthesis,  Analysis  and  Management  Program,  and 
the  numerous  watershed  management  and  citizen  monitoring  programs  established  on 
the  Central  Coast." 

CCAMP  has  been  invaluable  in  our  current  assessment  for  the  303d  impaired  waters 
list.  Thanks  to  CCAMP  tools,  we  submitted  1 1 ,000  lines  of  evidence  to  the  State  Board 
for  our  region,  an  order  of  magnitude  greater  than  other  regions. 

For  sewage  spills,  we  have  a  link  to  the  statewide  database  of  spills,  the  Sanitary  Sewer 
Overflow  Reduction  Program.  For  beach  warnings,  we  have  had  a  link  in  the  past  but 
we  are  currently  updating  our  web  site.  We  will  again  include  a  link  to  beach 
information  as  part  of  our  site  remodel. 


4.      What  is  your  view  of  the  relationship  between  the  state  board  and  your 

regional  board?  What  type  of  guidance  do  you  receive  from  the  state  board? 

The  State  Board  and  our  board  could  have  a  much  closer  working  relationship.  Greater 
knowledge  of  our  region  could  improve  this.  When  Region  3  decisions  are  appealed  to 
the  State  Board,  the  State  Board  sometimes  supports  Region  3  decisions.  The  WQCC 
meetings  provide  opportunities  for  coordination  and  feedback  among  Board  members, 
and  the  monthly  Management  Coordinating  Meetings  helps  coordinate  the  statewide 
management  team.  We  also  receive  guidance  from  the  State  Board  on  how  to  best  deal 
with  the  media  and  therefore  communicate  with  the  public,  and  the  State  Board 
provides  facilitation  services  through  a  skilled  staff  person.  We  are  using  her  now  for 
our  agricultural  advisory  panel  meetings.  Additionally,  our  relationship  with  the  State 
Board  is  reasonably  well  defined.  The  State  Board  sets  statewide  policy  for  the  regions 
to  follow,  and  the  regional  boards  deal  with  region  specific  and  watershed  specific  cases 
that  come  before  us.  We  determine  how  to  apply  statewide  policy  in  individual  cases. 
The  State  Board  provides  the  role  of  appellate  body  for  those  aggrieved  by  regional 
boards'  actions,  and  that  process  has  been  working  better  in  the  last  couple  of  years. 

The  comments  of  the  Little  Hoover  Commission  have  been  criticized  by  some  very 
knowledgeable  parties,  including  former  members  of  the  SWRCB.  One  Board  member 
(with  whom  staff  of  the  Commission  spoke)  has  said  that  the  Commission  staff  had 
already  reached  conclusions  and  did  not  want  to  hear  that  knowledgeable  former  Board 
members  disagreed  strongly  with  their  opinions  and  conclusions. 

Finally,  it  has  been  my  experience  that  that  the  public  policy  experience  and  enthusiasm 
of  SWRCB  members  directly  influences  their  relationships  with  the  RWQCB's.  If 
SWRCB  members  are  dynamic,  and  are  allowed  to  exercise  independence  in  their 
pursuit  of  the  protection  of  our  water  resources,  and  are  permitted  to  use  advocacy  in 
their  charge  by  the  Governor  and  the  Legislature  to  advance  the  public's  knowledge  of 
water  quality  issues  in  California,  the  relationships  between  the  SWRCB  and  the 


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RWQCB's  would  greatly  improve  without  the  need  for  legislative  intervention.  If  SWRCB 
members  are  appointed  simply  to  perpetuate  the  "status  quo",  it  is  very  unlikely  that  the 
Board  will  ever  address  issues  that  are  of  immediate  importance  to  the  Legislature,  no 
matter  what  legislative  changes  are  made.  The  need  for  dynamic  solutions  to  our  state's 
water  problems  requires  dynamic  and  articulate  Board  members  who  are  directed  to 
take  the  needed  actions  to  cure  our  problems,  without  political  reprisals.  Finally,  the 
Water  Boards  appear  to  have  lacked  a  dynamic  legislative  advocate  for  their  financial 
independence  for  a  long  time.  To  advance  the  needed  protection  to  our  state's  water 
resources,  fiscal  stability  is  gravely  needed  for  all  of  the  Water  Boards. 


5.     How  do  you  balance  the  board's  focus  on  the  permitting  process  and  the 
focus  on  broad  policy  issues,  such  as  updating  basin  plans  and  setting 
regional  priorities?  What  is  the  best  use  of  the  board's  time? 

The  best  use  of  the  Regional  Board's  time  is  to  focus  on  broad  policy  issues  and  the 
establishment  of  clear  and  concise  regulatory  frameworks  that  will  guide  the  processing 
of  the  unique  applications  and  permits  that  are  filed  in  Central  California.  The 
establishment  of  specific  policies  by  our  Board  greatly  eases  the  burden  on  staff  in 
processing  permit  applications.  Our  goal  for  healthy  aquatic  habitat  is  leading  us  to  a 
basin  plan  amendment  for  riparian  protection.  It's  an  example  of  focusing  on  watershed 
health  as  a  broad  policy  issue,  and  then  prioritizing  a  "tool  upgrade"  like  a  basin  plan 
amendment.  The  regional  priority  drives  the  task,  not  the  other  way  around. 

The  best  use  of  the  board's  time  is  to  focus  on  higher  order  issues,  of  course.  Many  of 
our  permits  are  on  our  consent  agenda  because  the  staff  have  done  their  job  and  done 
it  well.  However,  when  someone  is  aggrieved,  as  is  often  the  case  in  any  regulatory  or 
legislative  process,  they  understandably  want  to  "take  it  to  the  Board".  The  Board  is 
then  available  to  hear  both  sides  of  any  dispute  and  to  make  a  decision  to  resolve  it. 
This  is  the  concept  of  service  and  attentiveness  to  the  public's  concerns  by  the 
RWQCBs  that  remains  the  greatest  achievement  of  the  Porter-Cologne  Act.  An 
invaluable  benefit  of  our  regional  board  structure  is  that  we  are  not  a  department  and 
our  Board  meetings  are  a  regular  and  available  community  and  public  forum.  Some 
issues  may  appear  small  in  the  context  of  our  regional  priorities,  but  that  little  issue  may 
be  of  huge  and  life-changing  importance  for  that  one  person,  and  our  Board  gives  each 
and  every  individual  an  opportunity  to  seek  resolution.  Our  meetings  tend  to  be  long 
(frequently  two  long  days)  because  we  do  listen  to  our  stakeholders  and,  more 
importantly,  to  the  general  public.  We  listen,  we  judge  based  on  our  broad  experiences, 
we  ask  follow  up  questions,  and  we  ask  for  staff's  recommendations  to  resolve  the 
issues.  The  public  that  appears  before  us  knows  who  is  making  the  decisions  that  affect 
their  lives.  Our  Board  members  take  our  responsibilities  seriously  and  with  solemn 
concern  for  the  welfare  of  the  citizens  of  our  state.  Our  forum's  benefit  and  importance 
to  those  citizens  who  come  before  us  seeking  wise  decisions  from  people  familiar  with 
the  unique  circumstances  of  our  region  cannot  be  overstated. 


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6.     How  do  the  state  board  and  your  regional  board  staff  assist  you  to  better 
understand  some  of  the  complex  issues  before  you?  Do  you  have  any 
suggestions  on  how  the  state  water  board's  staff  might  better  assist  you? 

The  State  Board  staff  currently  consists  of  fewer  people  than  were  employed  in  1999. 
Further,  a  vast  number  of  senior  State  Board  staff  members  have  taken  retirement  in 
the  last  five  years  due  to  increased  work  loads,  financial  uncertainties,  and  diminishing 
staff  positions.  This  "brain  drain"  at  the  State  Board  level  demonstrates  itself  to  Regional 
Board  members  when  the  newer,  although  often  very  bright;  SWRCB  staff  members 
lack  even  basic  knowledge  about  ongoing  issues  affecting  our  Regional  Board.  Due  to 
this  problem,  we  rely  heavily  on  our  Regional  staff  that  has  not  suffered  the  magnitude 
of  personnel  changes  that  the  Sacramento  office  has  faced. 

As  a  result,  one  of  the  keys  to  the  effective  transference  of  information  to  our  Board 
members  is  our  staff  reports  that  stand  on  their  own  and  explain  complexities  (in  plain 
English)  of  the  difficult  and  often  unique  issues  that  we  must  address  on  the  Central 
Coast.  Our  Board  has  placed  great  importance  on  the  quality  of  these  reports,  and  our 
staff  has  clearly  risen  to  our  expectations. 

Finally,  it  should  be  noted  that  through  the  Water  Quality  Coordinating  Committee 
meetings  (WQCC),  State  Board  staff  assists  the  board  members  twice  a  year  with  face 
to  face  briefings  and  discussions  that  are  very  helpful  in  keeping  abreast  of  evolving 
legislative  issues.  If  we  have  requests  for  assistance  or  suggestions,  State  Board  staff 
has  tried  to  be  responsive.  As  to  suggestions  regarding  the  SWRCB,  please  see  my 
comments  above. 


7.      What  is  your  view  on  how  your  board  should  enforce  water  quality  laws? 
When  are  fines  and  penalties  appropriate,  and  when  are  more  informal 
actions  necessary? 

The  three  principal  objectives  of  enforcement  should  be  to:  1)  generate  knowledge  and 
respect  in  the  general  community  for  the  regulations  that  have  been  adopted  to  protect 
their  water  resources,  and  their  health  and  safety;  2)  motivate  the  wrongful  discharger  to 
return  to  compliance;  and  3)  deter  that  discharger  and  others  from  committing  additional 
violations.  Water  Board  enforcement  should  be  designed  to  get  the  maximum  benefit  in 
those  three  areas  from  every  enforcement  action.  We  deal  with  a  very  wide  range  of 
types  of  violations,  from  very  minor  to  very  serious.  Lumping  them  all  together  and  then 
comparing  enforcement  responses  can  be  misleading,  if  not  naive.  Most  alleged 
violations  deserve  at  least  an  informal  response.  For  minor  violations,  a  notice  of 
violation  may  be  sufficient  to  bring  the  discharger  into  compliance.  Even  for  major 
violations,  we  usually  start  the  enforcement  process  with  informal  actions  such  as 
Notices  of  Violations  (NOVs)  or  phone  calls. 

Penalties  are  an  effective  enforcement  tool  that  regional  boards  should  not  hesitate  to 
use  when  warranted.  They  recover  the  benefit  (and  more)  that  the  discharger  may  have 


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gained  by  the  noncompliance,  and  also  provide  a  highly  visible  deterrence  to  other 
dischargers  and  to  the  public  in  general.  Penalties  are  appropriate  for  major  violations 
and  for  dischargers  with  records  of  recurring  problems,  or  those  who  are  willfully 
recalcitrant.  However,  in  the  past  we  have  also  used  minor  penalty  actions  for  relatively 
minor  violations,  such  as  late  reporting,  to  communicate  to  all  dischargers  that  we  will 
not  tolerate  willful,  malevolent  or  chronically  negligent  violations.  We  found  that  our 
compliance  rate  increased  dramatically  as  a  result.  As  with  the  application  of  any  law, 
firm  but  fair  and  compassionate  actions  by  our  board  must  be  the  cornerstone  of  our 
conduct. 


8.     How  do  you  prioritize  your  enforcement  activities,  given  current  budget 
constraints? 

Our  Board  has  addressed  this  issue  "head  on".  Every  violation  gets  reviewed  by  our 
regional  enforcement  staff.  Using  criteria  from  the  current  enforcement  policy,  we 
evaluate  priority  violations  further  for  possible  formal  enforcement.  MMP  violations  are 
not  prioritized  since  we  are  required  to  respond  regardless.  Violations  deemed  "Priority" 
according  to  the  policy  are  reviewed  and  prioritized  considering  factors  such  as  the 
nature,  extent,  and  severity  of  the  violation,  the  toxicity  and  environmental  damage 
caused  by  a  spill  or  discharge,  the  past  record  of  the  discharger,  the  discharger's  efforts 
to  mitigate  effects  or  damage,  and  economic  benefit.  Enforcement  staff  then  initiates 
actions  against  as  many  of  the  violators,  starting  with  the  highest  priority,  as  we  have 
resources  to  pursue.  We  advertise  our  enforcement  actions  via  news  releases  to  try  to 
leverage  our  actions  to  encourage  others'  compliance.  In  every  one  of  our  agenda 
packages,  we  have  an  enforcement  report,  and  we  typically  ask  staff  about  certain 
cases  in  that  report,  which  is  one  way  of  seeing  the  big  picture  of  violations  and 
enforcement  responses. 


9.      Without  a  current  formal  .«^fe  board  policy  on  enforcement,  how  does  your 
board  determine  it  is  consistent  in  its  enforcement  practices  with  other 
regional  boards? 

The  State  Board  does  have  an  Enforcement  Policy.  This  older  policy,  as  far  as  I  know, 
has  not  been  rescinded,  is  still  in  effect,  and  we  use  it  as  a  guide  in  our  enforcement 
actions.    Our  enforcement  staff  is  actively  involved  in  the  statewide  enforcement 
roundtable.  The  roundtable  for  our  senior  staff  and  enforcement  staff  regularly 
discusses  how  each  region  takes  enforcement  action.  The  roundtable  has  been 
working  with  the  state  board  office  of  enforcement  on  the  updated  policy,  which  has  led 
to  many  discussions  of  consistency.    We  also  receive  summaries  (e.g.,  Water  Board 
news  releases)  of  some  of  the  more  significant  enforcement  actions  throughout  the 
state,  which  gives  us  a  bigger  picture  view  of  what  the  other  regions  are  doing  in  the 
enforcement  arena. 

Moreover,  as  I  indicated  above,  it  is  naive,  particularly  when  considering  the  potential 
consequences  of  seeking  criminal  prosecutions  for  violations,  to  believe  that  slavish 


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enforcement  of  "consistent"  state-wide  practices  would  be  appropriate  or  even  meet  the 
requirements  of  laws. 

Regarding  the  low  percentage  of  completed  enforcement  actions,  our  staff  reports: 

a.  We  do  a  really  good  job,  probably  better  than  other  regions,  of  identifying  violations  - 
that  is,  we  may  simply  appear  to  have  a  higher  number  of  violations  because  of  better 
reporting.  This  is  due  to  our  cover  sheet  that  dischargers  use  to  self-report  violations. 

b.  We  do  a  really  good  job,  again  probably  better  than  other  regions,  of  making  sure  all 
violations  are  in  CIWQS  (our  permit  database).  If  regions  only  enter  violations  that 
they've  responded  to,  of  course  the  response  percentage  is  very  high. 

c.  We  have  been  in  the  process  of  switching  to  a  paperless  office  system,  which  is  an 
endeavor  that  has  huge  potential  for  efficiency  increases  and  a  more  sustainable  way  of 
operating.  Of  course,  we  have  bumps  in  that  road.  One  of  the  problems  is  that  we  may 
not  be  catching/recording  all  of  the  enforcement  actions  recently,  so  our  percentage 
would  appear  to  be  lower  than  reality. 

Our  enforcement  staff  is  aggressive  because  they  have  the  support  of  our  Board  and 
we  enforce  on  a  significant  percentage  of  violations  in  our  region. 


10.    How  will  the  board  deal  with  the  expiration  of  the  order  for  irrigated 

agricultural  lands  this  July?  If  the  board  extends  the  current  order,  will  it  be 
strengthened  in  any  manner  pending  the  development  of  new  language? 

Our  Board  must  conduct  hearings  pursuant  to  our  adopted  administrative  regulations 
before  any  modifications  to  any  order  can  be  sustained  in  court.  Our  Executive  Officer 
(EO)  presented  a  status  report  on  the  Agricultural  Order  update  at  our  February 
meeting.  Several  stakeholders  spoke,  and  a  few  of  them  argued  vociferously  that  the 
scope  of  the  revisions  should  be  limited.  However,  our  EO  stated  that  it  is  appropriate 
to  present  all  options  to  the  Board,  covering  all  water  quality  aspects  of  the  irrigated 
agriculture  issue.  In  this  manner,  the  update  can  be  as  strong  and  effective  as  possible 
with  a  goal  of  improving  our  regulation  of  water  quality  issues  to  make  as  much 
progress  as  is  possible,  and  still  be  reasonable  with  protecting  and  improving  our 
receiving  waters  that  are  affected  by  agricultural  discharges.  Our  Chair  directed  and 
indicated  this  is  the  appropriate  approach  -  to  bring  the  full  range  of  options  to  the 
Board  for  consideration  (that's  the  norm  with  any  issue  that  comes  before  our  Regional 
Board).  When  the  staff  brings  these  issues  to  the  Board  in  July  (which  we  understand 
will  be  an  extension  for  only  a  finite  period  of  time  as  staff  continues  its  work  with  the 
many  stakeholders),  the  Board  will  consider  its  options  and  only  make  a  decision  after 
conducting  a  public  hearing  from  all  those  who  address  the  Board. 


1 1.    What  types  of  schedules  for  compliance  does  the  board  envision  with  the 
new  language  regulating  agricultural  discharge? 


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As  I  have  indicated  above,  the  law  mandates  and  requires  that  our  Board  can  only 
make  decisions  on  the  order's  content  after  a  full  and  complete  public  hearing  has  been 
properly  noticed  and  conducted  so  that  comments  from  all  interested  parties  and 
stakeholders  have  been  allowed  and  fairly  and  impartially  considered.  However,  our 
approach  with  all  such  issues  is  typically  to  try  to  establish  timelines  that  are  as 
aggressive  as  possible,  yet  reasonable  considering  the  nature  of  the  problem,  and  the 
ability  of  the  dischargers  to  resolve  the  problems. 


I  hope  that  these  answers  have  been  responsive  to  your  questions.  Should  you  wish 
any  other  information,  I  will  be  happy  to  respond.  It  is  a  great  honor  for  me  to  serve  on 
the  Regional  Board.  Please  be  assured  that  I  take  my  duties  and  responsibilities  with 
the  utmost  humility  and  concern  for  the  protection  of  the  waters  of  the  state  of 
California. 


Most  Respectfully, 


Russell  M.  Jeffrie 


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VIA  U.S.  AND  ELECTRONIC  MAIL 

Nettie  Sahelhaus 

Senate  Rules  Committee  Appointments  Director 

Room  420.  State  Capitol 

Sacramento.  C A  95814 

Re:        Responses  to  Questions  from  Senate  Rules  Committee 

Dear  Ms.  Sahelhaus: 


My  responses  to  Senator  Steinberg's  questions  dated  May  4.  2009.  are  provided  below 
following  the  requisite  question. 

Statement  ol  Goals 

/.       Since  2005  when  you  were  first  appointed,  what  have  been  void-  most  significant 

accomplishments  as  a  member  of  (he  Central  I 'alley  Regional  Water  Quality  Control 
Board?  What  do  you  hope  to  accomplish  during  your  current  tenure  as  a  member  of  the 
board'.''  What  goals  do  you  have  for  the  board,  and  how  will  you  accomplish  them?  How 
i rill  you  measure  i  'our  success? 

The  most  significant  accomplishment  since  I  was  first  appointed  to  the  Board  was  the 
participation  in  the  hiring  of  Pamela  Creedon  as  Executive  Officer  of  Region  5.  After 
interviewing  a  number  of  qualified  candidates.  Pamela  stood  out  as  not  only  qualified,  but 
personally  capable  of  managing  not  only  Board  customers,  but  Board  Staff.  With  Pamela's 
assistance,  the  Board  has  seen  a  positive  change  in  the  attitude  of  Board  Staff,  dischargers 
and  concerned  citizens.  For  instance,  a  number  of  Region  5  customers  indicate  on  a  regular 
basis  that  Staff  is  responsive  and  helpful,  whereas  before,  that  was  not  necessarily  the  case. 

Since  being  elected  Board  Vice-Chair  in  2006.  I  have  worked  well  with  Karl  Longley  (our 
Board  Chair  since  the  same  time)  in  helping  to  manage  Board  meetings  and  hearings  to 
ensure  the  process  we  provide  is  open  and  fair  to  all  parties.   I  have  also  emphasized  the 
need  for  our  Board  to  consider  Supplemental  Environmental  Projects  or  SEPs  in  the 
communities  impacted  by  water  quality  violations. 


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In  terms  of  enforcement.  Region  5  has  clone  an  admirable  job  with  the  meager  funds  we  are 
provided  given  the  size  of  our  region  compared  to  other  regions  (Region  5  constitutes  45% 
of  the  State's  area).  The  first  meeting  1  ever  attended  as  a  Board  Member  involved  the 
administrative  hearing  on  the  Hilmar  Cheese  case.  Against  the  urging  of  Hilmar  Cheese, 
the  Board  issued  the  most  extensive  fine  in  the  history  of  the  Water  Boards  -  S4. 000.000 
against  Hilmar  Cheese  for  its  water  qualit\  violations  over  the  years. 

With  respect  to  regulation  of  agriculture  and  dairies.  1  participated  in  the  Board's 
consideration  and  adoption  of  the  first  of  its  kind  Irrigated  Lands  Program  to  monitor 
pesticides  in  surface  waters,  as  well  as  and  General  WDRs  for  1.600  plus  dairies  previously 
unregulated  in  Region  5.  to  monitor  niu'ates  and  nitrites,  among  other  constituents,  in  the 
groundwater. 

1  am  currently  on  the  Board's  Delta  subcommittee,  which  is  focusing  on  a  number  of 
important  issues  in  Region  5.  In  particular,  the  Board  is  currently  processing  a  TMDL  for 
methylmercury  for  the  Delta.     In  the  future.  1  look  forward  to  the  consideration  this 
TMDL.  among  others,  and  desperately  hope  the  Board  can  find  the  funding  to  amend  its 
three  Basin  Plans,  all  of  which  are  over  30  years  old  and  in  dire  need  of  updating  due  to  the 
environmental  changes  that  have  occurred  over  time. 

Whal  do  you  believe  are  (he  most  serious  problems  facing  your  regional  board? 

There  are  several.  However,  in  an  effort  to  be  brief.  I'll  include  only  my  top  four  concerns. 

♦  The  decline  of  the  Delta,  which  has  been  occurring  for  decades.  Most  unfortunately, 
there  has  been  a  lack  of  leadership  at  every  governmental  level  and  an  inability  to 
command  the  key  interested  parties  to  compromise  for  the  good  of  the  Delta  and  the 
people  of  California. 

♦  The  ever- increasing  duty  to  procure,  adopt,  and  enforce  new  water  quality  regulations 
mandated  by  the  state  and  federal  governments  without  any  corresponding  funding  to  hire 
and/or  retain  qualified  and  experienced  Staff,  conduct  studies,  obtain  necessary 
equipment,  and  carry  out  enforcement. 

♦  Lack  of  public  knowledge  regarding  the  significance  of  water,  water  quality  and  its  effect 
on  the  environment,  discharges,  and  communities  all  over  California,  which  stems  from  a 
lack  of  environmental  education. 

♦  Salt  and  mercury  contamination  -problems  which  will  require  costh  and  unpopular 
solutions  for  which  no  "quick  fix"  exists,  and  for  which  no  one  person,  group  or 
governmental  entity  (perhaps  excepting  the  Region  5  Board)  has  taken  the  lead  on 
resolving  -  despite  the  fact  both  issues  are  (or  should  be)  of  statewide  concern. 


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3.  How  does  your  board  help  the  public  understand  the  slate  of  water  quality  in  your  region'/ 
Where  should  the  public  go  for  information  on  water  quality  issues,  such  as  sewage  spills. 
or  the  overall  quality  of  water  in  rivers,  streams,  and  the  Sacramento-San  Joaquin  Delta  in 
your  region'/ 

Our  website  is  user  friendly  and  very  informative.  Additionally,  members  of  the  public  can 
call  or  visit  the  regional  board  offices  in  Fresno.  Sacramento  or  Redding  and  will  be 
directed  to  a  Staff  member  knowledgeable  on  the  applicable  issue.   Board  Staff  is  readily 
available  and  frequently  respond  to  press  inquiries  regarding  water  qualitj  issues  of 
interest. 

State  and  Regional  Board  Roles 

The  state  and  regional  boards  were  created  nearly  four  decades  ago.  In  January  2009  the  Little 
Hoover  Commission  issued  a  report  on  improving  the  performance  of  the  slate's  water  boards. 
One  of  the  findings  was  that  the  relationship  between  the  state  and  regional  boards  is  not  well- 
defined.  This  has  led.  they  believe,  to  inconsistencies  and  inefficiencies  among  boards,  an 
inability  to  set  statewide  priorities,  and  a  lack  of  focus  by  the  stale  board  on  holding  regional 
boards  accountable  for  clean  water  outcomes. 

The  report  also  found  that  there  is  little  focus  on  clean  water  outcomes  or  accountability. 
Regional  boards  admit  they  have  difficult}'  in  analyzing  watersheds  to  determine  whether  their 
programs  are  protecting  and  improving  water  quality.  Regional  water  boards*  focus  is  more  on 
issuing  permits  and  determining  whether  dischargers  abide  by  permits  than  determining  if  the 
water  is  actually  getting  cleaner. 

Another  issue  that  has  been  raised  in  the  past,  and  also  discussed  in  the  recent  commission 
report,  is  that  many  of  the  issues  board  members  have  to  deal  with  are  very  technical,  and  a 
number  of  board  members  are.  basically,  volunteers  and  do  not  have  such  formal  technical 
experience. 

4.  What  is  your  view  of  the  relationship  between  the  state  board  and  your  regional  board'.' 
What  type  of  guidance  do  you  receive  from  the  slate  board'/ 

Originally,  1  understood  the  Stale  Board  to  be  the  ""maker  of  all  policy"  on  key  water  supply 
and  water  quality  issues.  However,  over  the  years.  I  have  sadly  come  to  see  the  State  Board 
as  mostly  an  appeals  board  for  the  decisions  regional  boards  make,  and  purse  strings  (since 
our  budget  is  determined  by  the  Stale  Board).  While  it  would  be  helpful  for  the  Slate  Board 
to  take  the  lead  on  policy  issues  concerning  mercury,  anti-degradation  analyses,  and  other 
pertinent  issues,  this  has  not  occurred.  And.  because  Region  5  is  severely  impacted  by  these 
issues,  the  Region  5  Board  has  been  required  lo  move  forward  with  regulation  without  the 
benefit  of  the  Slate  Board's  input,  and  often  funding.  For  instance,  mercury  contamination 
of  Central  Valley  watersheds  and  the  Delta  is  widely  accepted  lo  be  predominantly  a 
"legacy"  problem  associated  with  historic  mining  in  ihc  Sierra  foothills.  To  solve  the 


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mercury  problems  in  the  Delta  will  require  creativity  including,  for  example,  an  "offset"  or 
"trading"  program.  Several  years  ago.  the  Stale  Board  actually  indicated  it  would  develop 
an  offset  policy,  but  no  such  policy  has  ever  been  prepared  or  proposed.   I  will  note. 
however,  that  the  State  Board  has  joined  the  Central  Valley  Board  in  working  on  the  CV- 
SALTS  project,  as  discussed  below. 

How  do  you  balance  the  board's  focus  on  (he  permitting  process  and  the  focus  on  broad 
policy  issues,  such  as  updating  basin  plans  and  selling  regional  priorities'  What  is  the  best 

use  of  the  board's  lime.'' 

The  Board  is  tasked  with  doing  a  lot  more  than  permitting,  updating  basin  plans  and  setting 
regional  priorities.  Balancing  the  plethora  of  Board  responsibilities  is  challenging  and 
frustrating,  especially  given  the  severe  budget  cuts  the  Board  has  experienced  over  the  past 
few  years.  Our  Staff  is  asked  to  do  more  permitting,  enforcement,  planning,  and  the  like, 
with  fewer  resources,  which  is  essentially  impossible.  While  permitting  is  very  important, 
issuing  new  permits  with  severely  outdated  basin  plans  is  tantamount  to  putting  the 
proverbial  cart  before  the  horse.  To  me.  the  Board's  top  priority  should  be  updating  its 
basin  plans  since  they  are  like  a  city  or  county's  general  plan  -  the  basin  plans  are  the  bible 
of  water  quality,  and  they  set  policy.  Unfortunately,  permitting  and  enforcement  must  be 
pursued  in  order  to  ensure  we  are  in  compliance  with  the  Porter-Cologne  and  Clean  Water 
Acts,  and  key  funding  for  studies  required  to  do  Basin  Plan  updates  just  docs  not  exist.  As 
a  result,  the  Board  attempts  to  prioritize  the  things  it  can  afford  (mainly  permitting  and 
enforcement)  or  thai  it  must  comply  with  (e.g..  consent  decrees  on  TMDLs).  while  key 
policy  determinations  linger. 

How  do  the  state  board  and  your  regional  board  staff  assist  yon  to  better  understand  some 
of  the  complex  issues  before  you'.''  Do  you  have  any  suggestions  on  how  the  slate  water 
hoard's  staff  might  better  assist  you'? 

State  and  regional  board  staff,  including  M.s.  Creedon  and  our  wonderful  legal  counsel,  is 
extremely  helpful  in  understanding  complex  issues.  They  provide  legal  and  factual 
assistance  when  requested.  1  would  suggest  thai  the  Office  of  Chief  Counsel  consider  a 
recommendation  1  made  when  I  was  first  appointed.  That  is.  each  newly  appointed  board 
member  of  either  the  state  or  regional  boards  should  be  provided  with  a  packet  of 
information  on  the  myriad  of  laws,  policies  and  regulations  we  are  expected  to  know  and 
apply  in  our  positions  as  board  members.  For  instance,  each  new  board  member  should  be 
provided  with  a  hard  copy  of  the  Porter-Cologne  and  Clean  Water  Acts,  a  copy  of  the 
Bagley  Keene  Act  and  the  Office  of  Chief  Counsel's  most  recent  memo  on  e\  parte 
communications,  and  How  charts  on  how  TMDLs.  NPDES.  WDRs.  and  other  significant 
processes  work.    Then,  at  WQCC  (the  bi-annual  Water  Quality  Coordinating  Committee) 
meetings,  there  should  be  workshops  of  various  areas  of  interest. 


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Enforcement 


In  2005  the  Office  of  the  Secretan  of  Cal'EPA  reported  to  the  Legislature  on  environmental 
enforcement  and  suggested  that  the  stale  and  regional  water  hoards  were  among  the  worst 
agencies  in  enforcing  the  law.  In  2008  the  state  hoard,  in  its  Strategic  Plan  2008-  2012.  said  it 
would  adopt  an  updated  water  quality  enforcement  policy  b>  December  2008.  That  enforcement 
policy  will  now  not  be  adopted  until  mid  to  late  2009.  On  January  1 .  2009.  the  state  board 
published  its  2008  enforcement  report.  Among  other  things,  it  showed  the  number  of  violations 
that  were  imposed  by  regional  boards  compared  to  completed  enforcement  actions.  For  the  four- 
year  period  from  2005  through  2008.  the  Central  Valley  regional  water  board  scored  a  low  of  69 
percent  in  2006  and  a  high  of  75  percent  in  2005  in  wastewater  violations  compared  to 
completed  enforcement  actions.  This  is  above  the  average  of  the  nine  regional  boards.  For 
siormwater  violations  compared  to  completed  enforcement  actions,  the  board  scored  a  low  of  95 
percent  in  2007  and  a  high  of  99  percent  in  2006.  This  is  slightly  above  the  average  of  the  nine 
regional  boards. 

In  February  2009  the  board's  executive  officer's  report  showed  the  backlog  of  6.223  mandatory 
minimum  penalties  enforcement  actions,  that  had  not  been  resolved  in  the  fourth  quarter  of  2007. 
had  been  reduced  to  2 1 3  one  year  later. 

~.       What  is  your  view  on  how  your  hoard  should  enforce  water  quality  laws'/  When  are  fines 
and  penalties  appropriate,  and  when  are  more  informal  actions  necessary'.'' 

Water  laws  should  be  enforced  strictly.  All  factors  permitted  to  be  taken  into  account  under 
the  law  should  be  considered.  At  all  times,  the  laws  should  be  applied  equally  to 
dischargers.   Board  Staff  carries  out  enforcement  as  required  by  state  and  federal  law. 
Actions  are  commenced  with  Notices  of  Violations,  and  escalate  from  there  if  compliance 
is  not  achieved  within  applicable  lime  frames  provided. 

Most  of  our  enforcement  actions  are  informal  and  have  been  effective  in  achieving 
compliance.  These  actions  require  less  stall' resources.  Assessing  fines  is  one  of  our  most 
formal  and  lime  intensive  enforcement  actions  to  lake.   Historically,  fines  were  reserved  for 
recalcitrant  violators  or  \'ov  the  very  egregious  noncompliance  events  (e.g..  spills  that  cause 
a  fish  kill  or  other  significantly  environmental  or  human  health  impacts).  Changes  to  the 
Water  Code  created  mandator)  minimum  penalties  or  "MMPs"".  and  changed  this  dynamic. 
The  Code  now  specifies  that  violations  must  be  assessed  fines  regard/ess  of  the 
environmental  impacts.  Most  violations  are  due  to  ignorance  and  do  not  result  in 
significant  impairment  to  water  quality.   While  MMPs  have  resulted  in  heller  compliance 
due  to  more  awareness,  processing  MMPs  is  extremely  time  consuming  and  staff-intensive. 
Unfortunately,  the  unintended  consequence  of  MMPs  has  been  to  divert  valuable  and 
limited  staff  resources  away  from  taking  discretionary  formal  enforcement.   In  sum.  the  law- 
requires  us  to  use  one  of  our  most  heavy-handed  and  very  effective  administrative 
enforcement  actions  (the  imposition  of  fines)  for  events  we  would  typically  hand!  just  as 
effectively  with  an  informal  enforcement  action. 


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Without  a  current  formal  state  board  policy  on  enforcement,  how  does  your  hoard 
determine  ii  is  consistent  in  its  enforcement  practices  with  other  regional  hoards'.' 

The  Stale  Water  Board  currently  has  a  statewide  Enforcement  Policy  that  was  adopted  in 
2002.  The  intent  of  this  Policy  is  stated  as  follows: 

It  is  the  policy  of  the  SWRCB  that  the  Boards  shall  strive  to  be 
fair,  firm  and  consistent  in  taking  enforcement  actions  throughout 
the  Stale,  while  recognizing  the  individual  facts  of  each  case.  The 
primary  goal  of  this  Enforcement  Policy  is  to  create  a  framework 
for  identifying  and  investigating  instances  of  noncompliance,  for 
taking  enforcement  actions  that  are  appropriate  in  relation  lo  the 
nature  and  severity  of  the  violation,  and  for  prioritizing 
enforcement  resources  to  achieve  maximum  environmental 
benefits.  Toward  that  end.  it  is  the  intent  of  the  SWRCB  that  the 
RWQCBs  operate  within  the  framework  provided  by  this  Policy. 

The  State  Board  is  currently  revising  its  2002  policy.  The  2009  revision  will  be  considered 
by  the  State  Board  at  its  June  meeting.  The  policy  has  always  created  a  framework  to 
improve  consistency  between  the  regional  boards.  Many  believe  the  Boards  are  not 
consistent  because  of  the  variability  on  the  amounts  of  the  liabilities  assessed.  However, 
because  each  action  is  case  specific,  it  is  very  difficult  to  establish  a  one-size-lils  all 
approach.   Both  the  current  policy  and  revised  policy  establish  a  violation  prioritization 
methodology  that  is  followed  by  all  of  the  Boards.  This  is  needed  because  there  simply  arc 
not  enough  resources  lo  address  every  single  violation.  The  revised  budget  lakes  this  one 
step  further  and  is  proposing  a  process  for  the  Boards  to  follow  to  establish  a  liability 
amount.  If  approved  this  will  help,  but  will  not  ensure  consistency,  since  the  process  is  still 
subjective  and  involves  different  staff  and  managers  with  different  opinions  and  ideas  of 
severity  of  violations. 

Another  way  the  Boards  are  better  addressing  consistency  is  through  the  creation  of  the 
Office  of  Enforcement  at  the  State  Board.  Each  regional  board  has  an  enforcement 
coordinator  that  meets  with  Stale  Board  Office  of  Enforcement  monthh  .   I  understand  from 
Region  5  staff  that  these  meetings  include  other  enforcement  staff  at  the  Board  offices. 

Region  5  has  established  a  Compliance  and  Enforcement  Section  in  the  Sacramento  office, 
as  well  as  a  Compliance  and  Enforcement  Unit  in  the  Fresno  office.   We  are  evaluating  how 
we  can  do  a  similar  thing  in  Redding,  but  thai  office  may  be  too  small.   We  also  have 
dedicated  management  to  enforcement.  Right  now  our  EO  serves  as  the  lead  prosecutor. 
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Having  management  and  staff  dedicated  to  enforcement  in  our  offices  greatly  improves  our 
consistency  within  the  Central  Valley  and  helps  improve  our  consistency  with  the  other 
Boards  as  well. 

°.       How  do  you  prioritize  your  enforcement  activities  'given  current  budget  constraints? 

See  the  answer  to  Question  8.  Region  5  Stall  use  an  internal  roundtable  group  to  establish 
the  priorities  for  enforcement.   It  is  my  understanding  that  Region  5  Staff  will  begin 
working  with  Reed  Sato,  the  Director  of  Office  of  Enforcement  at  the  State  Board,  to  help 
in  prioritizing  Region  5"s  enforcement  actions.   Further,  our  EO  will  be  scheduling  a  time 
for  her  and  a  few  Staff  to  travel  to  San  Diego  to  meet  with  Staff  there  to  learn  how  Region  5 
can  model  its  prioritization  program  after  theirs,  since  it  has  been  very  effective. 

10.     Does  your  board  have  any  lessons  for  other  regional  hoards  on  the  way  you  resolved  the 
6,000-plus  mandatory  minimum  penalties  enforcement  actions'/ 

Put  a  determined  and  focused  staff  member  in  charge  of  them  and  prioritize  your  backlog. 
Shortly  after  we  initialed  our  efforts.  Dorothy  Rice  created  a  statewide  MMP  Initiative  to 
reduce  the  backlog  statewide.  This  helped  Region  5  reinforce  our  focus  and  efforts.   Board 
Staff  indicates  they  achieved  this  by:  1 )  cleaning  our  database  to  make  sure  reported  data 
was  accurate:  2)  creating  a  record  of  violations  that  was  rev  iewed  by  Staff  and  the 
discharger  to  make  sure  the  data  and  calculated  violations  were  accurate  and  correct  and 
resolved  all  differences  before  the  MMP  was  issued. 

Importantly,  ii  should  be  noted  that  our  MMP  initiative  came  with  a  price.  The  Region  5 
Board  has  not  been  able  to  do  as  much  discretionary  enforcement,  although  we  have  still 
done  quite  a  bit.  Members  of  the  public  and  their  elected  representatives  need  to 
understand  that  all  regional  boards  have  undergone  significant  budget  cuts  over  the  past 
years.  As  a  result,  enforcement  gets  prioritized.  Each  regional  board  must  make  a  policy 
decision  on  what  type(s)  of  enforcement  it  wants  to  pursue.  This  is  true  for  many  pertinent 
issues  at  the  regional  boards  (e.g..  funding  TMDLs  to  funding  Basin  Plan  Amendments). 

Irrigated  Agricultural  Lands — Waiver  of  Discharge  Requirements 

In  2003  the  board  adopted  a  conditional  waiver  of  waste  discharge  requirements  for 
discharges  from  irrigated  agricultural  lands.  As  part  of  the  2003  waiver  program,  the  board 
directed  Staff  to  prepare  an  Environmental  Impact  Report  for  a  long-term  irrigated  lands 
regulatory  program.  The  2003  interim  waiver  program  was  set  to  expire  in  2006.  In  2006 
the  board  adopted  a  new  conditional  waiver  for  discharges  from  irrigated  agricultural  lands 
thai  continued  the  2003  interim  program  until  201  1 . 


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i  J.     How  is  your  board  progressing  in  developing  a  long-term  irrigated  lands  regulatory 
program  for  agriculture?  Will  die  program  be  ready  by  (he  lime  die  current  conditional 
waiver  expires  in  201 1? 

The  Board  is  progressing  well.  The  Board  has  formed  a  facilitated  stakeholder  process  to 
develop  the  long-term  program  alternatives  to  be  considered  by  the  Board.  Sacramento 
Stale  University's  Center  for  Collaborative  Policy  is  facilitating  the  stakeholder  process. 
The  stakeholder  group  is  comprised  of  representatives  from  the  agricultural  industry, 
environmental  justice  community,  the  Native  American  community,  and  the  California 
Sport  Fishing  Protection  Alliance.  Our  EO  informs  me  Staff  is  on  schedule  to  have  the 
Board  consider  the  alternatives  at  its  December  2009  meeting  so  the  new  regulator)  tool  is 
presented  to  the  State  Water  Board  by  201  1  as  planned. 

12.  Last  year,  agricultural  interests  objected  to  die  addition  of  the  regulation  of  groundwater  in 
addition  to  surface  waters  in  the  review  process.  Is  your  staff  still  reviewing  lite  issues  of 
contamination  to  both  groundwater  and  surface  waters? 

Yes. 

Salinity  Management  in  the  Central  Valley 

One  of  the  most  pressing  problems  in  the  central  valley  is  the  buildup  of  salt  in  both  surface 
water  and  groundwater.  While  some  salts  occur  naturally,  others  are  discharged  into  water  as  a 
result  of  food  processing — everything  from  tomatoes  to  cheese,  fertilizer  application,  and 
wastewater  treatment.  In  high  concentrations,  salt  can  kill  crops  and  cause  deformities  in 
animals,  among  other  problems.  The  Central  Valley  regional  board  is  developing  a  salinity 
management  plan  that  will  take  several  years  to  finalize. 

On  March  20.  2009.  L'.C.  Davis  released  a  report.  Final  Report  on  the  Economic  Impacts  of 
Central  Valley  Salinity,  which  estimated  that  the  state  could  see  a  reduction  of  goods  and 
services  of  between  $5  billion  and  S8.7  billion,  and  a  loss  of  jobs  of  between  34.000  and  64.000. 
if  salinity  continues  to  increase  at  current  rales  in  the  central  valley. 

13.  How  is  the  development  of  the  board's  salinity  management  plan  proceeding?  When  will 
the  plan  be  ready  for  adoption'.' 

First.  I'd  like  to  clarity  thai  the  UC  Davis  report  estimated  the  stated  losses  only  //there  are 
no  changes  in  current  policy,  which  in  my  mind  is  highly  unlikeh  given  ihe  clear 
understanding  of  the  dire  consequences  if  we  don't  change  current  policy. 

With  thai  said,  the  Central  Valley  and  State  Boards  have  initiated  the  Central  Vallev 
Salinity  Alternatives  for  Long-Term  Sustainabilit)  or  CV-SALTS  program,  which  is  ;i 
comprehensive  basin  planning  efl~ov\  aimed  ai  developing  and  implementing  a 
comprehensive  salinity  and  nitrate  management  program.  A  policy  group  and  committees 


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of  the  policy  group  have  been  formed  to  work  with  Staff  and  interested  stakeholders  to 
prepare  a  regional  salt  and  nitrate  management  plan  for  the  Central  Valley  and  Delta.  To 
the  State  Board's  credit,  it  has  provided  the  program  with  significant  funding. 

Based  on  die  websites  identified  below,  it  appears  a  finalized  and  environmentally  studied 
program  would  be  proposed  to  the  Board  for  consideration  in  or  about  October  2014. 
Given  the  CV-SALTS  program  is  stakeholder-funded  process,  much  of  the  progress  will 
depend  on  the  available  funding. 

Further  detailed  information  on  the  CV-SALTS  program  can  be  found  at 
www.swreb.ca.i20v/rwqch5  \vater_issues  sal i nils' 'indes.shtml  and  cvsalinitv.oru. 

/-/.     How  will  the  board  incorporate  the  findings  of  the  L '.('.  Davis  report  on  the  economic 
impact  of  salinity  in  the  Central  I  alley  into  the  salinity  management  plan? 

The  Board  set  up  a  Policy  Group  and  its  committees  to  work  out  the  details  of  the  plan  and 
provide  the  Board  with  a  complete  plan  for  consideration.  1  expect  the  Policy  Group  will 
incorporate  the  information  from  the  UC  Davis  study  into  the  management  plan  as 
appropriate  and  our  Board  will  consider  that  at  the  time  the  proposed  plan  comes  before  us 
for  consideration. 

Dairy  Pollution 

There  are  over  1 .500  dairies  in  the  Central  Valley  that  are  contributing  to  both  air  and  water 
pollution.  While  the  method  of  flushing  dairy  waste  into  lagoons  has  some  benefits  for  air 
pollution,  it  increases  the  leaching  of  pollutants  into  the  groundwater.  Last  October.  Karl 
Longley,  chair  of  your  board,  told  a  meeting  of  regional  and  state  board  members  the  Central 
Valle)  regional  water  board  would  have  lo  step  up  its  water  quality  monitoring  because  lagoons 
contribute  nutrients  lo  groundwater. 

15.     What  type  of  increased  monitoring  for  dairy  groundwater  pollution  is  expected?  When  will 
ii  he  in  place? 

The  General  Dairy  Order  (Order)  was  issued  by  the  Central  Valley  Board  in  May  2007.  It 
was  and  is  the  first  comprehensive  water  quality  regulator)  program  to  be  issued  to  the 
dairy  industry  in  the  Central  Valley,  h  is  a  comprehensive  order  that  regulates  discharge  of 
waste  from  nearh  all  of  the  1600  existing  dairies  in  the  Central  Valley.  The  Order  focuses 
on  groundwater  by  prohibiting  the  discharge  of  dairy  waste  to  surface  waters.  It  protects 
groundwater  by  requiring  comprehensive  waste  and  nutrient  management  plans  to  he 
developed,  and  establishes  an  extensive  monitoring  and  reporting  program.  The  Order  was 
issued  pursuant  to  the  State's  Porter-Cologne  Act  and  is  more  protective  of  surface  water 
and  ground  water  quality  than  the  federal  regulations  for  confined  animal  feeding 
operations.  To  be  very  clear,  the  Order  prohibits  the  discharge  of  animal  waste  to  surface 
waters  from  the  dairies  and  associated  croplands. 


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Through  the  Order,  the  Board  developed  a  regulatory  program  that  was  aggressive  yet 
achievable  not  only  for  the  industry,  but  also  for  regulatory  Staff  required  to  monitor  and 
enforce  die  program  and  for  the  support  system  (labs,  consultants,  etc.)  used  by  die  dairy 
industry  lo  ensure  compliance  with  the  Order.   Implementation  and  compliance  with  die 
Oiiler  was  done  in  a  phased  approach  with  the  early  phase  focusing  on  the  largest  sources 
of  nitrates  lo  groundwater  and  implementing  changes  to  waste  and  nutrient  practices  at  each 
dairy  to  significant!}  reduce  or  eliminate  over-application  of  waste  and  nutrients  to  land. 

Cropland  is  usually  the  largest  contributing  source  of  nitrates  to  groundwater.  Therefore. 
the  early  phase  of  the  Order  focuses  on:  1 )  assessing  a  dairy  in  terms  of  waste  generation: 
practices  and  disposal  capacity;  2)  educating  the  dairy  industry  on  proper  practices  and  how 
to  comply  with  the  Order:  3)  developing  and  implementing  nutrient  management  plans  to 
significantly  reduce  the  loading  of  nitrates  to  crop  lands  by  requiring  wastes  not  lo  be 
applied  in  quantities  that  exceed  the  nutrient  uptake  of  the  plants:  4)  conducting  extensive 
field  and  crop  monitoring  to  ensure  the  nutrient  management  plan  is  effective;  and  5) 
developing  and  implementing  a  waste  management  plan  that  will  manage  and  protect 
waters  from  wastes  generated  in  the  processing  areas  of  a  dairy.   In  addition  to  addressing 
crop  land  and  processing  areas  in  the  early  phase,  the  Order  establishes  requirements  for 
existing  dairy  lagoons  and  directs  dairies  to  monitor  am  discharges  to  surface  water  if  and 
when  they  occur,  and  groundwater. 

As  part  of  the  waste  management  evaluation,  the  Order  requires  dairies  to  provide  an 
engineering  evaluation  of  existing  lagoons  and  propose  and  implement  approved  remedial 
measures  when  groundwater  monitoring  demonstrates  that  the  existing  lagoon  has 
adversely  impacted  groundwater  quality.  In  addition,  all  existing  lagoons  that  are  expanded 
or  any  new  lagoons  constructed  at  an  existing  dairy  must  meet  very  stringent  design  criteria 
established  in  the  Order. 

Groundwater  monitoring  is  the  primary  mechanism  used  by  the  Board  to  determine  if  an 
existing  lagoon  has  impacted  groundwater  quality.  However,  the  Board  found  that  it  was 
impractical  lo  require  all  1600  existing  dairies  to  install  monitoring  wells  within  a  short 
time  period  due  to  the  limited  number  of  professionals  available  to  design  and  install 
groundwater  monitoring  systems  and  the  limited  Staff  lo  review  monitoring  well 
installation  and  sampling  plans.  The  Board  fell  it  was  more  prudent  to  prioritize  and  phase 
its  efforts  to  determine  the  existing  groundwater  conditions  at  each  dairy  within  the  shortest 
time  period.  To  do  this  the  Order  required  each  dairy  lo  sample  all  domestic  and 
agricultural  wells  present  at  the  dairy  and  discharges  from  any  subsurface  (tile)  drains. 


To  determine  which  dairies  should  be  required  lo  install  monitoring  wells,  the  Order 
established  a  decision  matrix.  The  prioritization  scheme  evaluates  10  different  factors 
including:  concentration  of  nitrate  in  data  collected:  proximity  of  the  lagoon  to  private  or 
public  drinking  water  wells:  the  number  of  crops  grown  per  year  at  a  site:  other 
environmental  monitoring  program  data  that  may  be  available:  and  other  factors.    The 


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Order  anticipated  the  Board  will  phase  in  groundwater  monitoring  at  approximately  100  to 
200  dairies  per  year. 

The  first  submittal  of  groundwater  data  was  required  to  be  submitted  in  a  report  due  by  July 
1,  2008.    The  Board  received  over  95  percent  of  all  the  reports  due  on  that  data.  Of  thai 
percentage.  90  percent  of  all  the  dairies  with  groundwater  wells  and  tile  drains  submitted 
groundwater  monitoring  data.  Board  Staff  is  pursuing  enforcement  against  sites  that  have 
failed  to  provide  information  required  by  the  Order.  The  next  annual  report  with  additional 
groundwater  data  is  required  to  be  submitted  on  July  1.  2009.   Staff  has  been  compiling  this 
information  to  determine  which  dairies  will  be  required  to  install  monitoring  wells. 

The  Board  has  not  yet  required  the  llrst  set  of  dairies  to  install  monitoring  wells.  At  the 
hearing  to  adopt  the  Order  all  interested  and  designated  parties  testified  to  the  Board 
expressing  concerns  regarding  the  ground  water  monitoring  program  being  proposed  in  the 
Order.  Depending  on  the  individual  testifying,  the  monitoring  program  was  either  loo 
rigorous,  or  not  strict  enough.  To  avoid  delaying  adoption  of  the  Order,  the  Board  adopted 
the  MRP  as  proposed  to  ensure  the  monitoring  requirements  were  initialed,  including  the 
sampling  of  source  and  irrigation  wells  and  directed  Staff  to  reconvene  a  stakeholder  group 
lo  propose  a  revised  monitoring  plan.  Board  Staff  has  been  through  several  meetings  with 
the  stakeholders  regarding  possible  alternatives  to  groundwater  monitoring  at  dairies,  yet  no 
viable  alternative  has  been  established.  In  the  absence  of  a  viable  alternative,  the  Board 
will  continue  to  implement  the  monitoring  plan  as  adopted  by  it  in  2007  and  plans  to  issue 
directives  to  the  first  100  to  200  dairies  that  must  conduct  monitoring  by  January  1.  2010. 

Some  have  been  critical  of  the  Board's  apparent  "lack"  of  action  regarding  the  dairy 
program.  Region  5  currently  has  16  Staff  sittiated  in  three  offices  to  administer,  monitor 
and  enforce  nearly  1600  existing  dairies.   I  understand  from  Pamela  Creedon  that  in 
addition  lo  administration  of  the  current  General  Order.  Staff  has  also  been  issuing 
individual  dairy  orders,  drafting  a  general  NPDES  Permit  for  dairies  subject  to  the  federal 
rules  (there  are  very  few),  and  inspecting  and  enforcing  the  requirements  of  the  General 
Order,  in  2008  Region  5  Staff  accomplished  the  following: 

Dialled  1 1  Individual  Orders,  all  adopted  by  the  Board 

Conducted  1 50  site  inspections 

Issued  15  Notices  of  Violation 

Issued  three  Administrative  Civil  Liability  complaints,  which  have  all 

been  settled 

Additionally.  Staff  advises  me  that  compliance  with  the  current  General  Order  has  been 
excellent.  To  date  the  compliance  has  been  exceptional  for  such  a  new  regulatory  program: 

Over  99%  of  reports  due  in  December  2007  were  received  on  time 

Over  95%  of  reports  due  in  July  2008  were  received  on  lime 

Over  98%  of  the  reports  due  in  December  2008  were  received  on  lime 


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In  addition  lo  administering  and  enforcing  tlic  General  Order  requirements.  Staff  has  been 
working  with  CalEPA  and  California  Department  of  Food  and  Agriculture  (CDFA)  on 
developing  permits  for  methane  digesters.  Digesters  could  be  an  effective  tool  to  dispose  of 
dairy  wastes  in  a  manner  that  will  protect  both  air  and  water  quality  and  will  generate 
renewable  energy  for  use  on  and  off  dairy  farms. 

Also  Staff  as  assembled  a  Technical  Advisory  Committee  (TAC)  to  assist  it  in  evaluating 
compliance  with  the  General  Order,  and  provide  information  to  agencies  responsible  for 
food  safety.  The  TAC  contains  representatives  from  the  CDFA.  California  Department  of 
Public  Health.  State  Water  Resources  Control  Board,  and  the  Western  Institute  for  Food 
Safety  and  Security  at  UC  Davis.  Goals  for  the  TAC  include  working  with  farmers  and 
food  processors  to  develop  best  management  practices  for  use  of  dairy  wastes  and  educate 
dischargers  to  minimize  risks. 

In  sum.  the  Region  5  Board  and  its  Staff  are  committed  to  implementing  the  General  Order 
and  to  protecting  surface  and  ground  waters  of  the  State. 

16.     How  does  the  board  plan  lo  deal  with  the  issue  of  water  pollution  hy  dairies'.'  What  type  of 
new  technologies,  like  digesters,  is  the  board  looking  at?  How  can  your  board  work  with 
/he  local  air  pollution  control  district  lo  make  sure  that  the  reduction  of  one  type  of 
pollution — air  vs.  water — doesn't  increase  another'.' 

The  General  Order  addresses  the  historic  practice  of  over  applying  wastes  to  land. 
Implementation  of  an  effective  Nutrient  Management  Plan  that  will  protect  and  help  restore 
groundwater.  Moreover,  the  Order  prohibits  of  dairy  wastes  to  our  surface  waters.  The 
Board  recognizes  it  must  continue  to  work  with  sister  state  and  federal  agencies  and 
industry  to  find  alternative  solutions  for  dairy-  wastes.  As  noted  above,  our  early  efforts 
have  been  directed  towards  digesters.  We  focused  on  digesters  because  of  competing 
regulations  between  protecting  air  quality  and  water  quality.   Many  practices  that  could  be 
implemented  at  a  dairy  to  protect  air  are  the  very  practices  we  are  trying  lo  address  in  the 
Order.  For  instances,  the  use  of  waters  in  flushing  stalls  and  the  lagoons  are  effective  in 
protecting  air  quality,  yet  may  be  harmful  to  groundwater.   Methane  digesters  present  a 
potential  solution  for  this  dilemma:  however,  waste  streams  from  the  digesters  must  be 
handled  and  the  wastes  still  contain  constituents  of  concerns  -  salts  and  nitrates.  Some 
digesters  simply  involve  covering  existing  lagoons.  This  is  the  least  efficient  form  of  a 
digester  but  it  does  not  involve  receiving  a  regulator)  permit  from  our  Board  since  it  simply 
covers  an  existing  lagoon.  The  existing  threat  to  groundwater  exists  but  adding  a  cover 
does  not  make  it  any  worse  of  a  problem.  The  concept  of  co-digestion  of  dairy  wastes  with 
other  "green"  wastes  is  an  option  our  Board  Staff  would  like  to  pursue.  This  would  include 
the  construction  of  above  ground  digesters  (potential  to  eliminate  lagoons)  and  would  mix 
the  manure  with  food  processing  or  production  wastes.  This  would  boost  the  energy 
generated  by  the  digester  and  could  produce  sufficient  gas  or  energy  that  it  could  become  a 
revenue  stream.  To  build  an  above-ground  unit  does  require  a  permit  from  our  board.  Staff 


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is  looking  inlo  developing  a  region-wide  general  permit  for  above-ground  dairy  co- 
digestion  units.  To  issue  a  permit  we  must  fully  comply  with  CEQA  and  the  Stale  Board's 
Anti-degradation  Policv. 


Thank  you  for  the  opportunity  to  respond  to  Senator  Steinberg's  inquiries.  If  you  should  need 
any  additional  information  or  have  supplemental  questions,  please  do  not  hesitate  to  contact  me. 

Verv  truly  yours. 


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Senator  Darrell  Steinberg 
Chairman,  Senate  Rules  Committee 

ATTN:  Nettie  Sabellhaus,  Rules  Committee 

Appointments  Director  SfflHrts  I&?Jes  r^gnmittc^ 

State  Capitol 

Room  420  ||  ifv>     ,  y 

Sacramento,  CA  95814-4900 

Dear  Senator  Steinberg:  APP^W*E*£m& 

Please  find  below  my  responses  to  the  questions  related  to  the  Senate  Rules 
Committee  Confirmation  Hearing  for  my  reappointment  as  a  member  of  the  Colorado 
River  Basin  Regional  Water  Quality  Control  Board  on  July  8,  2009.  Also  attached  per 
your  request  is  an  updated  form  700,  Statement  of  Economic  Interest. 

Statement  of  Goals: 

1 .  Since  you  were  first  appointed,  what  have  been  your  most  significant 
accomplishments  as  a  member  of  the  Colorado  River  Basin  Regional  Water 
Quality  Control  Board?  What  do  you  hope  to  accomplish  during  your  current 
tenure  as  a  member  of  the  board?  How  will  you  measure  your  success? 

My  most  significant  accomplishments  to  date  have  been  to  encourage  and 
assist  the  Regional  Water  Quality  Board  staff  to  seek  practical  solutions  to 
potential  violations  and/or  judicial  matters.  Also,  I  believe  the  entire  Board 
has  worked  diligently  to  protect  and  monitor  water  quality  impacts  to  the  New 
River,  Salton  Sea  and  the  Basin's  Groundwater.   During  my  upcoming  tenure 
I  hope  to  see  greater  enhancement  and  protection  of  groundwater  resources 
through  creative  treatment  processes,  conversion  of  septic  systems  and  other 
means.  Also,  I  will  continue  to  seek  improvement  to  the  Salton  Sea  water 
quality.   Success  will  be  measured  through  cooperative  programs  and 
agreements  like  the  Yucca  Valley/Hi  Desert  MO  A  and  implementation  of  the 
objectives  of  the  Colorado  River  Basin  Plan. 

2.  What  do  you  believe  are  the  most  serious  problems  facing  your  regional 
board? 

The  Colorado  River  Basin  is  critically  dependent  upon  groundwater  and  of 
course,  the  Colorado  River.   My  primary  concern  is  the  threat  to  the 
groundwater  basin  water  quality  from  both  pollutants  and  inferior  re-charge. 


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How  does  your  board  help  the  public  understand  the  state  of  water  quality  in 
your  region?  Where  should  the  public  go  for  information  on  water  quality 
issues,  such  as  sewage  spills  or  the  overall  quality  of  water  in  rivers  and 
streams? 

The  staff  provides  regular  water  quality  updates  during  the  board  meetings 
and  other  public  outreach  events  as  well  as  providing  extensive  information 
through  its  website.  It  is  my  understanding  that  from  time  to  time,  staff  holds 
public  workshops  on  various  specific  issues. 

I  have  found  that,  first,  accessing  the  Regional  Board  website  is  an  excellent 
information  source.  Direct  contact  with  the  staff  at  their  Palm  Desert  office  is 
also  highly  advisable.  I  have  found  our  Regional  Board  staff  to  be  very 
helpful  in  providing  public  information.  Staff  also  participates  in  various  public 
outreach  and  educational  events. 

Your  board  posted  the  executive  officer's  report,  the  report  used  to  inform 
board  members  and  the  public  on  what  is  happening  on  issues  of  concern  to 
the  board,  on  the  board's  Web  site  from  2000  to  September  2005.  Why  has 
this  been  discontinued? 

The  Executive  Officer's  reports  are  now  within  the  minutes  of  the  Regional 
Board  Meeting's  located  on  the  Board's  website. 


Public  Understanding  of  Water  Quality  Issues 

5.  Why  do  you  believe  the  board's  Web  site  is  not  kept  up  to  date?  Do  you 
believe  that  the  board's  Web  site  can  provide  the  public  with  needed 
information? 

This  is  the  first  I  have  heard  that  the  website  is  not  up-to-date.   There  are 
normal  delays  in  posting  information  on  the  Website.   I  will  look  into  this 
further. 

It  is  my  understanding  that  it  takes  one  or  two  months  from  the  collection  of 
the  field  samples  until  posting  on  the  Regional  Board  website.   It  is  also  my 
understanding  that  the  Regional  Board  has  limited  resources  and,  as  such,  it 
makes  the  funding  of  an  in-house  Web  Master  a  luxury  beyond  our  financial 
reach.  When  items  need  posting  on  the  web,  they  are  sent  to  the  SWRCB 
Web  Master  in  Sacramento  for  posting. 

6.  What  type  of  information  do  you  think  should  be  provided  to  the  public  on  the 
board's  Web  site? 

Notice  of  agendas,  agenda  content  and  meeting  minutes  are  at  a  minimum 
for  public  information.   Major  Board  policies  and  programs  such  as  the  "Water 
Quality  Control  Plan  -  Colorado  River  Basin  -  Region  7"  are  also  informative 
and  important  information  for  the  public  and  the  regulated  community 


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State  and  Regional  Board  Roles 

7.  What  is  your  view  of  the  relationship  between  the  state  board  and  your 
regional  board?  What  type  of  guidance  do  you  receive  from  the  state  board? 

/  have  been  on  the  Board  only  18  months  and  I  have  seen  a  very  cooperative 
working  relationship  between  the  State  Board  and  the  Regional  Board.  It  is 
my  understanding,  due  to  the  current  budget  crisis,  that  the  future  work  of  the 
Region  and  State  Board  will  be  affected  significantly.. 

8.  How  do  you  balance  the  board's  focus  on  the  permitting  process  and  the 
focus  on  broad  policy  issues,  such  as  updating  basin  plans  and  setting 
regional  priorities?  What  is  the  best  use  of  the  board's  time? 

The  Regional  Board  has  continually  directed  staff  to  negotiate  with 
dischargers  with  the  overarching  goal  of  developing  for  the  Board's 
consideration  for  adoption,  uncontested  permitsAA/aste  Discharge 
Requirements  (WDRs)  that  are  protective  of  water  quality.  Regional  Board 
staff  does  an  excellent  job  of  resolving  most  discharger  issues  before  they 
come  to  the  Board.    This  approach  avoids  the  Board  expending  large 
amounts  of  time  on  disputed  matters  that  are  often  highly  technical.  By 
directing  staff  to  try  and  reach  agreement  on  permitting  matters,  the  Board 
can  consider  broader  issues  such  as  rulemaking  that  may  involve  multiple 
stakeholders  and  presentations.   This  is  the  best  use  of  the  Board's  time. 

9.  How  do  the  state  board  and  your  regional  board  staff  assist  you  to  better 
understand  some  of  the  complex  issues  before  you?  Do  you  have  any 
suggestions  on  how  the  state  water  board's  staff  might  better  assist  you? 

The  Regional  Board  staff  has  been  extremely  helpful  in  providing  information 
and  source  material  to  understand  the  issues  of  the  region  and  the  challenges 
of  the  Board.   State  Board  staff  and  counsel  have  also  been  extremely  helpful 
and  supportive.  An  example  is  the  recent  conference  held  in  Chino  Hills  that 
was  sponsored  by  the  State  Water  Resources  Control  Board. 

The  Regional  Board  provides  extensive  and  informative  Board  packets  and 
provides  any  pertinent  correspondence  in  a  timely  manner. 

The  Office  of  Chief  Counsel  has  been  particularly  responsive  to  me  and  the 
Regional  Board  and  has  provided  extensive  information  related  to  ethics, 
conflicts  of  interest,  Ex  Parte  communications  as  well  as  our  two  different 
roles  in  adjudicatory  and  quasi-legislative  actions. 

I  particularly  find  the  regular  statewide  conferences  on  water  quality  issues  a 
great  benefit  from  a  refreshment  and  update  standpoint. 


Enforcement 

10.       What  is  your  view  on  how  your  board  should  enforce  water  quality  laws? 


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When  are  fines  and  penalties  appropriate,  and  when  are  more  informal 
actions  necessary? 

Enforcement  of  water  quality  taws  is  of  the  highest  priority  for  the  Regional 
Board.   The  Regional  Board  must  make  reasonable  appropriate  action  and 
must  be  consistent.  Early  contact  with  the  dischargers  informally,  followed  by 
written  Notices  of  Violations  result  in  many  dischargers  making  the  necessary 
improvements  voluntarily.   The  Board  often  considers  adopting  Time 
Schedule  Orders  (TSO).    The  TSO  allows  the  discharger  to  make  the 
appropriate  fixes  without  generating  more  Mandatory  Minimum  Penalties 
(MMPs)  in  the  interim. 

1 1 .  Without  a  current  formal  state  board  policy  on  enforcement,  how  does  your 
board  determine  it  is  consistent  in  its  enforcement  practices  with  other 
regional  boards? 

Consistency  with  other  Regional  Boards  is  provided  by  the  SWRCB  Office  of 
Enforcement,  which  provides  prosecutorial  services  to  the  Regional  Board 
statewide.  It  is  my  understanding  that  the  Board  staff  regularly  communicates 
with  other  Regional  Board  staff  and  State  Board  staff  and  counsel  for 
consistency  in  enforcement  actions. 

The  Board  has  created  an  Enforcement  Unit  to  prioritize  enforcement  and 
ensure  the  State  Board's  Water  Quality  Enforcement  Policy  is  applied 
consistently,  predictably,  and  in  a  timely  manner. 

12.  How  do  you  prioritize  your  enforcement  activities  given  current  budget 
constraints? 

All  State  agencies  are  challenged  by  the  recent  budget  crisis.   We  have  to 
rely  on  staff  to  provide  guidance  on  prioritization  and  the  Board  will  assist  and 
direct  staff  as  needed  to  establish  these  priorities. 


Septic  Rule 

13.  Has  the  state  board  articulated  a  role  for  the  regional  boards  in  implementing 
this  rule? 

It  is  my  understanding  that  due  to  a  large  number  of  stakeholders  throughout 
the  State  taking  issue  with  the  proposed  Rule,  the  SWRCB  is  rewriting  the 
Rule  for  consideration  at  a  later  date.  The  proposed  regulations  are  mostly 
self-  implementing,  requiring  actions  by  the  property  owners.   Oversight  is 
provided  by  the  State  and  Regional  Boards  along  with  local  agencies  for 
citing  and  compliance. 

14.  How  does  the  board  intend  to  monitor,  enforce,  and  improve  septic  systems 
that  contribute  to  surface  and  groundwater  pollution? 

Through  legislation,  Basin  Plan  Amendments  and  Board  Resolutions,  the 
Board  relies  on  the  staff  and  the  water  agencies  within  the  basin  to  monitor 


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systems  and  the  groundwater.   The  Board  regulates  septic  systems  with 
design  flows  above  5,000  gallons  per  day.   The  Board  promotes  sewering 
and  construction  of  public  treatment  systems  and  private  small  scale  package 
systems  in  areas  with  a  high  density  of  septic  systems. 


New  River  Pollution 

1 5.       What  progress  has  been  made,  and  what  types  of  water  quality  impairments 
still  exist?  What  needs  to  be  done  to  address  the  remaining  water  quality 
impairments  in  the  New  River? 

Las  Arenitas  WWTP  has  eliminated  the  15-20  million  gallons  per  day  of  raw 
sewage  that  were  routinely  present  in  the  New  River  at  the  Border.  Further, 
Regional  Board  monitoring  data  show  that  New  River  bacteria  were 
significantly  reduced  by  about  10-fold,  and  that  volatile  organic  compounds 
were  reduced  to  below  detection  limits  as  a  result  of  Las  Arenitas.   The 
dissolved  oxygen  in  the  River  at  the  border  has  also  improved.  Also,  the 
b in ational  projects  and  WWTP  have  reduced  the  nutrient  loading  into  the 
Salton  Sea  by  about  20%. 

There  are  still  significant  issues  here.   There  are  still  New  River  water  quality 
impairments  at  the  Border  caused  by  trash  and  non-point  sources  of  pollution 
in  Mexicali.     The  Regional  Board  continues  to  work  with  our  Federal  agencies 
to  ensure  additional  measures  are  taken  to  address  these  impairments  and 
sources  of  pollution. 


Salton  Sea 

16.  How  does  the  board  monitor  Salton  Sea  water  quality  issues? 

The  Regional  Board  monitors  the  Salton  Sea  at  special  locations  through  its 
Surface  Water  Ambient  Monitoring  Program.   It  also  pehodicaliy  monitors  the 
quality  of  the  Sea's  main  tributaries  through  TMDLs.    The  Regional  Board 
requires  the  Imperial  Irrigation  District  to  monitor  the  quality  of  agricultural 
runoff  in  the  Imperial  Valley  drains. 

17.  How  does  the  board  plan  to  deal  with  restoration  of  the  Salton  Sea?  What 
role  can  federal  stimulus  money  play  in  the  restoration  effort? 

The  restoration  of  the  Salton  Sea  is  statewide  and  federal  issue  that  goes  far 
beyond  what  the  Regional  Board  can  do.   The  Regional  Board  only  plays  a 
regulatory  role  regarding  Salton  Sea  restoration  activities.   In  this  capacity  the 
Regional  Board  develops  and  implements  TMDLs  to  address  water  quality 
impairments  of  the  Sea 's  main  tributaries;  fully  implements  its  core  regulatory 
programs  (e.g.,  NPDES  Program)  to  control  pollution  from  point  sources;  and 
provides  regulatory  guidance  and  technical  support.   Federal  stimulus  money 
could  be  used  to  undertake  some  of  the  early  activities  recommended  by  the 
Resources  Agency  and  begin  the  restoration  of  the  Sea.   I  urge  the  state  to 
work  in  cooperation  with  the  Federal  Government  to  initiate  restoration  of  the 


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Salton  Sea. 


I  hope  you  find  my  responses  sufficient.  Please  contact  me  if  you  require  any  additional 
information. 


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Statement  of  Goals 

1 .  Since  you  were  first  appointed,  what  have  been  your  most  significant  accomplishments 
as  a  member  of  the  Colorado  River  Basin  Regional  Water  Quality  Control  Board 

•  Work  related  to  the  Topock,  CA  hexavalent-chromium  contamination  clean 
up  project. 

•  Re-evaluation  and  coordination  with  Coachella  Valley  Water  District  on  e- 
coli  testing  methods  in  Whitewater  storm  channel. 

•  Overall  cohesive  board  relationship  with  positive  interaction  with  staff. 

What  do  you  hope  to  accomplish  during  your  current  tenure  as  a  member  of  the  board? 

Continue  representing  the  industrial/commercial  and  economic  development 
concerns  for  compliance  with  water  quality  issues  and  reasonable  and  effective 
enforcement.  Increased  education  and  cooperation  between  the  Board  and 
permittees  and  cohesive  board  membership. 

How  will  you  measure  your  success? 

Compliance  with  reporting  standards  for  EPA  and  CAL  EPA. 
Improvements  in  water  quality  for  non  compliant  identified  water  bodies 
Reduced  conflict  with  permittees  when  enforcement  actions  or  new  standards 
are  implemented. 

2.  What  do  you  believe  are  the  most  serious  problems  facing  your  regional  board? 

Lack  of  funding  for  staff  and  resources  proportionate  to  the  volume  of 
compliance  activities  necessary  for  such  a  broad  and  diverse  region. 

The  prolonged  efforts  to  address  a  resolution  to  the  Salton  Sea  Restoration 
Plan. 

Increased  impacts  to  water  quality  due  to  urban  build  up  in  the  Coachella 
Valley  and  the  peripheral  impacts  of  water  transfers  out  of  the  region  to 
support  larger  metropolitan  areas. 

3.  How  does  your  board  help  the  public  understand  the  state  of  water  quality  in  your 
region? 

Through  staff  and  management's  excellent  work  to  be  proactive  with  the  public  and 
permittees,  addressing  concerns  and  alleviating  questions.    Providing  work  shops  and 
other  interactive  meetings  to  address  and  receive  input  regarding  methodology  of 

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standards  and  the  scientific  measurement  systems.     Extended  effort  to  provide  access 
to  documentation  and  meeting  with  constituents  answer  specific  questions  they  have. 

Where  should  the  public  go  for  information  on  water  quality  issues,  such  as  sewage 
spills  or  the  overall  quality  of  water  in  rivers  and  streams? 

Utilize  the  regional  board's  website  or  direct  inquiries  to  staff.    This  is  a 
valuable  tool  with  appropriate  links  to  related  information  and  other  resources. 

4.  Your  board  posted  the  executive  officer's  report,  the  report  used  to  inform  board 
members  and  the  public  on  what  is  happening  on  issues  of  concern  to  the  board,  on 
the  board's  Web  site  from  2000  to  September  2005.  Why  has  this  been  discontinued? 

This  report  is  included  within  the  Board  minutes  on  the  Region's  website. 

Public  Understanding  of  Water  Quality  Issues 

Last  year  the  Rules  Committee  asked  how  the  board  helps  the  public  understand  the  state 
of  water  quality  issues  in  your  region.  Board  members  responded  that  the  staff  provides 
regular  water  quality  updates  during  board  meetings.  If  members  of  the  public  cannot  attend 
a  board  meeting  they  are  left  with  trying  to  obtain  information  on  the  board's  Web  site.  A 
review  of  the  Web  site  shows  that  the  Executive  Officer  Reports,  which  provide  such 
updates,  stops  in  2005.  In  addition,  on  the  home  page  various  water  quality  subject  areas 
are  listed.  One  of  them,  the  New  River/Mexicali  Sanitation  program  has  a  document  on  the 
historical  overview  of  the  New  River  water  quality  problems  that  is  over  ten  years  old,  and 
an  introduction  to  the  New  River/Mexicali  Sanitation  Program  that  is  listed  as  being  updated 
last  May  1 ,  2008,  but  the  information  states  that  the  completion  of  the  Las  Arenitas 
wastewater  treatment  plant  and  its  main  sewage  line  is  scheduled  for  2006.  That 
wastewater  plant  has  been  up  and  running  for  over  a  year. 

5.  Why  do  you  believe  the  board's  Web  site  is  not  kept  up  to  date?  Do  you  believe  that 
the  board's  Web  site  can  provide  the  public  with  needed  information? 

Do  not  believe  it  is  out  of  date  considering  reasonable  demands  on  staff  time  and 
the  availability  of  the  information  in  a  effective  format  for  publishing. 

6.  What  type  of  information  do  you  think  should  be  provided  to  the  public  on  the  board's 
Web  site? 

Information,  background  and  updates  on  ongoing  projects  within  the  region. 
Public  notices  for  comments  on  upcoming  projects  or  plans. 
Agendas  and  minutes  of  board  meetings  and  workshops. 
Links  to  other  environmental  resources. 


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State  and  Regional  Board  Roles 

The  state  and  regional  boards  were  created  nearly  four  decades  ago.  In  January  2009,  the 
Little  Hoover  Commission  issued  a  report  on  improving  the  performance  of  the  state's  water 
boards.  One  of  the  findings  was  that  the  relationship  between  the  state  and  regional  boards 
is  not  well-defined.  This  has  led,  they  believe,  to  inconsistencies  and  inefficiencies  among 
boards,  an  inability  to  set  statewide  priorities,  and  a  lack  of  focus  by  the  state  board  on 
holding  regional  boards  accountable  for  clean  water  outcomes. 

The  report  also  found  that  there  is  little  focus  on  clean  water  outcomes  or  accountability. 
Regional  boards  admit  they  have  difficulty  in  analyzing  watersheds  to  determine  whether 
their  programs  are  protecting  and  improving  water  quality.  Regional  water  boards'  focus  is 
more  on  issuing  permits  and  determining  whether  dischargers  abide  by  permits  than 
determining  if  the  water  is  actually  getting  cleaner. 

Another  issue  that  has  been  raised  in  the  past,  and  also  discussed  in  the  recent  commission 
report,  is  that  many  of  the  issues  board  members  have  to  deal  with  are  very  technical,  and  a 
number  of  board  members  are,  basically,  volunteers  and  do  not  have  such  formal  technical 
experience. 

7.  What  is  your  view  of  the  relationship  between  the  state  board  and  your  regional  board? 

Subordinate  in  policy  making  and  compliance  with  direct  feedback  on  region 
specific  issues.    Direct  working  relationship  is  somewhat  extended  but 
recognize  ongoing  efforts  to  bring  regional  boards  together  for  education  and 
interaction  on  policies. 

What  type  of  guidance  do  you  receive  from  the  state  board? 

As  a  board  member  I  receive  little  guidance  other  than  updates  through  our 
representative  counsel.     Most  guidance  is  technical  compliance  usually 
directed  through  staff  or  management. 

8.  How  do  you  balance  the  board's  focus  on  the  permitting  process  and  the  focus  on 
broad  policy  issues,  such  as  updating  basin  plans  and  setting  regional  priorities? 

The  specifics  of  permitting  and  compliance  is  the  priority  consideration  as  it 
addresses  the  actual  water  quality  conditions  and  ultimate  public  benefit.    This 
is  a  staff  driven  regulatory  effort  with  little  board  input  other  that  disputes  or 
approvals.    The  broad  policy  issues  although  also  staff  driven  in  development 
reflect  the  objectives  of  the  board's  vision  and  therefore  critical  to  achieving  long 
term  goals  for  water  quality. 

What  is  the  best  use  of  the  board's  time? 


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It  is  a  balance  of  both.    The  routine  accessibility  to  the  board  by  the  public  and 
permittees  provides  the  opportunity  to  address  concerns,  questions  or 
appreciation  for  the  efforts  in  achieving  water  quality.    Its  also  through  that 
interaction  and  accessibility  that  public  input  can  help  shape  the  future 
policies  or  methods  for  implementation. 

9.     How  do  the  state  board  and  your  regional  board  staff  assist  you  to  better  understand 
some  of  the  complex  issues  before  you? 

The  regional  board  staff  provide  an  excellent  board  packet  with  detailed 
information  in  adequate  time  to  review  and  make  inquiries  on  general  or 
technical  issue  complemented  with  well  verses  presentations  before  any  critical 
vote  is  required. 

The  greatest  asset  is  the  our  legal  liaison  from  the  State  Board  who  helps  guide 
the  board  through  the  legal  and  bureaucratic  standards  that  may  or  may  not  limit 
the  range  of  our  authority  in  policy  or  regulatory  actions. 

Do  you  have  any  suggestions  on  how  the  state  water  board's  staff  might  better  assist  you? 

An  introductory  orientation  or  background  on  roles  and  the  hierarchy  of  rule 
making  and  legal  compliance  would  greatly  assist  new  and  existing  board 
members. 


Enforcement 

In  2005  th*  Office  of  the  Secretary  of  ,Cal/EPA  reported  to  the  Legislature  on  environmental 
enforcement  and  suggested  that  the  state  and  regional  water  boards  were  among  the  worst 
agencies  in  enforcing  the  law.  In  2008  the  state  board,  in  its  Strategic  Plan  2006-2012,  said 
it  would  adopt  an  updated  water  quality  enforcement  policy  by  December  2008.  That 
enforcement  policy  will  now  not  be  adopted  until  mid  to  late  2009.  On  January  1 ,  2009,  the 
state  board  published  its  2008  enforcement  report.  Among  other  things,  it  showed  the 
number  of  violations  that  were  imposed  by  regional  boards  compared  to  completed 
enforcement  actions.  For  the  four-year  period  from  2005  through  2008,  the  Colorado  River 
Basin  regional  water  board  scored  a  low  of  91  percent  in  2005  and  a  high  of  99  percent  in 
2006  and  2008  in  wastewater  violations  compared  to  completed  enforcement  actions.  This 
is  well  above  the  average  of  the  nine  regional  boards.  For  stormwater  violations  compared 
to  completed  enforcement  actions,  the  board  scored  a  low  of  98  percent  in  2007  and  a  high 
of  100  percent  in  2005  and  2006.  This  is  well  above  the  average  of  the  nine  regional 
boards. 

10.    What  is  your  view  on  how  your  board  should  enforce  water  quality  laws? 


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Strong  and  timely  notices  for  enforcement  is  critical  to  prevent  extended  none 
compliance.    However,  mandatory  fines  without  concern  for  cause  or  scale  of 
impact  can  cause  further  problems  for  small  rural  systems.    Understanding  we 
can  authorize  portions  of  fines  to  be  redirected  back  into  compliance  projects, 
the  board  should  be  allowed  some  discretion  based  on  extenuating 
circumstances. 

When  are  fines  and  penalties  appropriate,  and  when  are  more  informal  actions  necessary? 
Fines  and  penalties  are  appropriate  when  mishaps  or  operational  procedures  fail  and 
are  without  malice  or  negligence  of  the  operators.     Formal  actions  are  necessary 
when  a  system  or  its  management  is  clearly  negligent  or  ignoring  its  responsibilities 
under  their  permit. 

11.  Without  a  current  formal  state  board  policy  on  enforcement,  how  does  your  board 
determine  it  is  consistent  in  its  enforcement  practices  with  other  regional  boards? 

We  utilize  the  existing  2002  policies  as  platform  for  our  enforcement  strategy 
complemented  with  the  consistency  in  support  by  the  State's  Office  of 
Enforcement. 

12.  How  do  you  prioritize  your  enforcement  activities  given  current  budget  constraints? 

Preference  towards  prompt  responses  and  actions  to  address  non  compliant 
systems  or  elements  promotes  efficiency  in  program  enforcement. 

Septic  Rule 

AB  885  (Jackson),  Chapter  781,  Statutes  of  2000,  requires  the  state  board  to  develop, 
adopt,  and  implement  statewide  regulations  for  permitting  and  operation  of  on-site 
wastewater  treatment  systems  (OWTS),  commonly  referred  to  as  the  "Septic  Rule."  This 
statewide  rule  for  septic  systems  has  been  one  of  the  most  commented  on  proposed 
regulations  and  has  seen  overflow  crowds  at  public  meetings. 

13.  Has  the  state  board  articulated  a  role  for  the  regional  boards  in  implementing  this  rule? 

It  appears  the  proposed  regulations  would  implemented  via  the  individual 
property  owners  with  oversight  by  the  Boards  and  other  local  agencies. 

14.  How  does  the  board  intend  to  monitor,  enforce,  and  improve  septic  systems  that 
contribute  to  surface  and  groundwater  pollution? 

Utilizing  basin  plan  amendments,  to  incorporate  the  potential  standards  which 
are  below  those  currently  regulated.  New  developments  are  encouraged  to 


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construct  or  connect  to  public  systems  and  or  utilize  an  approved  packaged 
system  for  higher  density  developments. 

New  River  Pollution 

The  New  River  flows  north  from  Mexicali,  Mexico,  into  the  United  States,  just  west  of 
Calexico.  The  river  has  been  called  the  most  polluted  river  in  the  United  States,  with  raw 
sewage  and  industrial  waste  being  discharged  into  the  Mexican  portion  of  the  river. 
In  1 998  the  regional  water  board  said  that  the  beneficial  uses  of  the  New  River  were 
impaired  by  bacteria,  volatile  organic  compounds,  nutrients,  silt,  and  pesticides.  Two 
projects  in  Mexico  were  developed— Mexicali  I  and  Mexicali  II.  Mexicali  I,  which  added  and 
upgraded  sewage  collectors,  was  completed  in  2004.  Mexicali  II  added  a  20  million  gallon- 
per-day  wastewater  treatment  plant,  which  is  now  online. 

1 5.  What  progress  has  been  made,  and  what  types  of  water  quality  impairments  still  exist? 
What  needs  to  be  done  to  address  the  remaining  water  quality  impairments  in  the  New 
River? 

Development  of  the  identified  systems  significantly  reduced  the  levels  of 
pollutants  in  the  New  River  and  its  destination  the  Salton  Sea.     Continued 
coordination  with  US  and  Mexican  governments  and  localities  to  further  reduce 
polluting  sources. 

Continued  support  for  biological  treatment  systems  (wetlands)  along  the  New 
River  and  lower  Salton  Sea. 


Salton  Sea 

The  Salton  Sea  is  California's  largest  inland  water  body  and  home  +o  more  species  of  birds 
than  any  other  place  in  California.  Over  390  species  of  birds  have  been  identified  at  the 
Sonny  Bono  Salton  Sea  National  Wildlife  Refuge.  The  enrichment  of  nutrients  in  the  Salton 
Sea,  known  as  eutrophication,  has  sufficiently  impacted  its  uses,  including  recreation, 
fishing,  and  wildlife  resources.  Some  of  the  specific  effects  include  high  algal  growth,  high 
fish  productivity,  low  clarity,  frequent  very  low  dissolved  oxygen  concentrations,  massive  fish 
kills,  and  noxious  odors.  External  loading  of  nutrients,  particularly  phosphorus,  is 
responsible  for  the  eutrophication  of  the  Salton  Sea.  Approximately  75  percent  of  the 
freshwater  inflow  to  the  sea  is  agricultural  drainwater  from  Imperial  Valley,  which  is 
increasing  the  sea's  salinity.  There  has  been  discussion  that  the  recent  federal  stimulus  bill 
could  assist  with  restoration  efforts. 

The  Legislature  approved  the  preferred  alternative  for  the  restoration  of  the  Salton  Sea  and 
provided  for  $47  million  in  funding  through  Senator  Ducheny*s  SB  187,  Chapter  374, 
Statutes  of  2008. 

1 6.    How  does  the  board  monitor  Salton  Sea  water  quality  issues? 


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Through  our  surface  water  monitoring  program,  which  monitors  the  sea  and  its 
tributaries  in  the  Coachella  and  Imperial  valleys. 


1 7.   How  does  the  board  plan  to  deal  with  restoration  of  the  Salton  Sea?  What  role  can 

federal  stimulus  money  play  in  the  restoration  effort? 
Our  role  relates  to  the  regulatory  compliance  for  water  quality  such  as  the  TMDLs  and 
direct  polluting  sources.     Our  participation  in  developing  and  reviewing  plans  to 
address  water  quality  goals  and  monitoring  will  be  critical.    Financial  constraints 
may  impede  commitments  for  staff  involvement  in  early  planning  stages. 

Use  of  stimulus  funding  should  be  directed  for  actual  project  implementation  at  the 
local  level  if  not  for  actual  construction  then  phased  development  of  habitat 
restoration  in  areas  not  directly  disturbed  by  future  construction. 


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June  15,  2009  *jJ&<2&,   Colorado   5«'ve/ 

The  Honorable  Darrell  Steinberg 
Senate  Rules  Committee 
State  Capitol  -  Room  420 
Sacramento,  California  95814-4900 

Subject:   Ellen  Sanders  Way  -  Reappointment  Questionnaire 
Regional  Water  Quality  Control  Board  -  Colorado  River  Basin  Region 

Statement  of  Goals 

1.  Since  you  were  first  appointed,  what  have  been  your  most  significant 
accomplishments  as  a  member  of  the  Colorado  River  Basin  Regional  Water 
Quality  Control  Board?  What  do  you  hope  to  accomplish  during  your  current  tenure 
as  a  member  of  the  board?  How  will  you  measure  your  success? 

2.  What  do  you  believe  are  the  most  serious  problems  facing  your  regional  board? 

3.  How  does  your  board  help  the  public  understand  the  state  of  water  quality  in  your 
region?  Where  should  the  public  go  for  information  on  water  quality  issues,  such  as 
sewage  spills  or  the  overall  quality  of  water  in  rivers  and  streams? 


As  a  board  member,  I  think  it  is  important  to  ask  questions  and  make  sure  that  I  fully 
understand  the  implications  of  a  proposed  action  before  casting  my  vote.  During  my 
tenure,  I  have  made  it  known  that  our  office  and  its  staff  are  here  to  serve  the  public  and 
to  help  the  regulated  community  understand  and  comply  with  regulations.  I  am  proud  to 
say  that  we  do  not  have  hostile  meetings,  but  rather  our  staff  is  diligent  in  resolving 
contested  issues  prior  to  each  board  meeting. 

During  my  current  tenure  on  the  board,  I  intend  to  see  that  our  region  manages  our 
limited  financial  resources  wisely.  My  top  three  priorities  include:  continuing  to  address 
the  water  quality  problems  of  the  New  River  and  the  pollution  from  Mexico  that 
contributes  to  those  problems;  pushing  for  the  expeditious  development  and 
implementation  of  a  final  remedy  for  the  hexavalent  chromium  contamination  at  the 
PG&E  Topock  natural  gas  compressor  facility  along  the  Colorado  River;  and  to  phase 
out  septic  systems  in  the  town  of  Yucca  Valley  and  its  surrounding  communities. 

The  success  of  each  of  these  goals  will  obviously  vary  by  goal,  but  overall  our  success 
will  be  measured  by  how  well  we  control  contaminants  from  entering  our  waterways  and 
by  protecting  our  current  water  quality. 

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From  my  standpoint,  the  most  serious  issue  facing  the  Board  is  the  protection  of  the 
ground  water  basin.  We  must  also  protect  the  quality  of  agricultural  irrigation  water  and 
control  urban  run-off  in  the  Coachella  Valley.  Additionally,  stabilization  of  the  Salton 
Sea,  continued  progress  in  reducing  polluted  waste  water  coming  from  Mexico  and  the 
elimination  of  septic  systems,  particularly  in  the  High  Desert  are  top  priorities. 

As  I  stated  earlier,  a  daily  priority  for  our  Region  is  to  take  a  proactive  approach  to 
working  with  the  public.  Our  contact  with  the  public  is  critical  to  maintaining  a  positive 
reputation  in  the  community.  RB7  maintains  a  Lyris  list  of  over  250  recipients 
(subscribers)  to  notice  our  public  meetings,  location  and  times  and  provide  links  to 
Agenda  items.  Our  website  also  provides  numerous  documents  on  water  quality  in  the 
Region  along  with  links  to  the  SWRCB.  For  example,  on  the  RB7  website,  please  see: 
Programs— ►Sanitary  Sewer  Overflows— >State  Board  Website  on  Sanitary  Sewer 
Overflow  Program  (General  State  Board  Order  for  Collection  Systems) 
(http://www.waterboards.ca.gov/water  issues/proqrams/sso/sso  map/sso  pub.shtml) 

This  link  produces  a  Google  map  with  incident  locations  throughout  the  state  and  by 
clicking  on  the  incident  marker  the  incident  report  can  be  accessed. 
One  of  the  best  resources  for  the  public  is  phoning  the  office  and  asking  to  speak  with  a 
staff  member  familiar  with  specific  subjects.  Commonly  the  caller  is  asked  to  open  our 
website  and,  simultaneously,  the  staff  member  works  from  their  desktop  to  help  the 
caller  find  the  specific  location  for  information.  Being  a  small  office,  the  staff  is  very 
welcoming  to  the  public  if  they  arrive  in  person  and  will  go  to  great  lengths  to  find 
information  or  offer  advice  or  provide  the  appropriate  forms. 

4.      Your  board  posted  the  executive  officer's  report,  the  report  used  to  inform  board 
members  and  the  public  on  what  is  happening  on  issues  of  concern  to  the  board, 
on  the  board's  Web  site  from  2000  to  September  2005.  Why  has  this  been 
discontinued? 

The  Executive  Officer's  reports,  in  condensed  format,  are  within  the  minutes  on  the  RB7 
website.   For  example,  please  see: 

Board  Minutes  —►Minutes— ►March  19,  2009 


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Public  Understanding  of  Water  Quality  Issues 

Last  year  the  Rules  Committee  asked  how  the  board  helps  the  public  understand  the 
state  of  water  quality  issues  in  your  region.  Board  members  responded  that  the  staff 
provides  regular  water  quality  updates  during  board  meetings.  If  members  of  the  public 
cannot  attend  a  board  meeting  they  are  left  with  trying  to  obtain  information  on  the 
board's  Web  site.  A  review  of  the  Web  site  shows  that  the  Executive  Officer  Reports, 
which  provide  such  updates,  stops  in  2005.  In  addition,  on  the  home  page  various  water 
quality  subject  areas  are  listed.  One  of  them,  the  New  River/Mexicali  Sanitation  program 
has  a  document  on  the  historical  overview  of  the  New  River  water  quality  problems  that 
is  over  ten  years  old,  and  an  introduction  to  the  New  River/Mexicali  Sanitation  Program 
that  is  listed  as  being  updated  last  May  1,  2008,  but  the  information  states  that  the 
completion  of  the  Las  Arenitas  wastewater  treatment  plant  and  its  main  sewage  line  is 
scheduled  for  2006.  That  wastewater  plant  has  been  up  and  running  for  over  a  year. 

5.      Why  do  you  believe  the  board's  Web  site  is  not  kept  up  to  date?  Do  you  believe 
that  the  board's  Web  site  can  provide  the  public  with  needed  information? 


Using  available  resources,  there  are  normal  delays  in  posting  information  on  the 
Website.  For  example,  recent  New  River/Mexicali  Sanitation  Water  Quality  Data  for 
February  2009  is  posted.   Please  see: 

Water        Issues— ^Programs— »New        River/Mexicali        Sanitation        Program-»New 
River/Mexicali  Sanitation  Program  Data— ^Current  Year,  February  2009  Data. 
http://www.waterboards.ca.gov/coloradoriver/water  issues/proqrams/new  river/2009/ia 
n  feb2009.pdf 

The  New  River  data  is  posted  after  the  samples  have  been  collected,  shipped  to  the  lab, 
analyzed  and  then  verified.  After  analytical  reports  have  been  sent  to  the  RB7  lab  it 
takes  one  or  two  months  from  the  collection  of  the  field  samples  until  posting  on  the 
RB7  website.  RB7  has  a  relatively  small  staff  with  that  makes  the  funding  of  an  in- 
house  Web  Master  a  luxury  beyond  our  financial  reach.  When  items  need  posting  on 
the  web,  they  are  sent  to  the  SWRCB  Web  Master  in  Sacramento  for  posting. 

6.      What  type  of  information  do  you  think  should  be  provided  to  the  public  on  the 
board's  Web  site? 

Access  to  our  Agendas  and  announcements  of  Regional  Board  Meetings  are 
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State  and  Regional  Board  Roles 

The  state  and  regional  boards  were  created  nearly  four  decades  ago.  In  January  2009, 
the  Little  Hoover  Commission  issued  a  report  on  improving  the  performance  of  the 
state's  water  boards.  One  of  the  findings  was  that  the  relationship  between  the  state 
and  regional  boards  is  not  well-defined.  This  has  led,  they  believe,  to  inconsistencies 
and  inefficiencies  among  boards,  an  inability  to  set  statewide  priorities,  and  a  lack  of 
focus  by  the  state  board  on  holding  regional  boards  accountable  for  clean  water 
outcomes. 

The  report  also  found  that  there  is  little  focus  on  clean  water  outcomes  or  accountability. 
Regional  boards  admit  they  have  difficulty  in  analyzing  watersheds  to  determine 
whether  their  programs  are  protecting  and  improving  water  quality.  Regional  water 
boards'  focus  is  more  on  issuing  permits  and  determining  whether  dischargers  abide  by 
permits  than  determining  if  the  water  is  actually  getting  cleaner. 

Another  issue  that  has  been  raised  in  the  past,  and  also  discussed  in  the  recent 
commission  report,  is  that  many  of  the  issues  board  members  have  to  deal  with  are  very 
technical,  and  a  number  of  board  members  are,  basically,  volunteers  and  do  not  have 
such  formal  technical  experience. 

7.  What  is  your  view  of  the  relationship  between  the  state  board  and  your  regional 
board?  What  type  of  guidance  do  you  receive  from  the  state  board? 

8.  How  do  you  balance  the  board's  focus  on  the  permitting  process  and  the  focus  on 
broad  policy  issues,  such  as  updating  basin  plans  and  setting  regional  priorities? 
What  is  the  best  use  of  the  board's  time? 

My  view  of  the  relationship  between  the  State  Board  and  our  Regional  Board  is 
similar  to  the  parent/subsidiary  in  the  corporate  world.  As  such,  the  State  board  has 
certain  parent  corporation  responsibilities,  such  as  overseeing  the  Regional  Boards, 
overturning,  if  necessary,  a  RB  decision,  and  developing  plans,  policies,  and 
regulations  of  statewide  application  to  be  carried  out  of  the  Regional  Boards,  and 
approving  Regional  Board  budgets. 

Personally,  I  have  found  the  State  Board  to  be  helpful  in  providing  legal  guidance  in 
my  role  as  chair  of  the  Board.   I  also  appreciate  the  fact  that  when  we  asked  the 
State  to  postpone  an  item  that  we  had  submitted  for  their  consideration,  they  did  so 
without  question. 


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I  would  like  to  see  the  State  Board  and  the  Legislature  move  forward  on  a  number  of 
statutory  changes  that  I  believe  will  improve  our  efficiency  and  ultimately  improve 
water  quality.  For  example,  I  think  we  need  to  allow  impoverished  communities  to 
invest  100%  of  Mandatory  Minimum  Penalties  back  into  improvements  to  their 
treatment  facilities.    We  are  delaying  system  improvements  by  forcing  poor 
communities  to  pay  fines  with  the  limited  resources  they  have  available  rather  than 
reinvest  that  money  directly. 

Regional  Board  7  has  continually  directed  staff  to  negotiate  with  dischargers  with  the 
overarching  goal  of  developing  for  the  Board's  consideration  for  adoption, 
uncontested  permits/WDRs  that  are  protective  of  water  quality.  When  a  contested 
item  is  brought  before  the  Board,  the  Board  commonly  listens  to  the  discharger's 
and  staffs  different  views  and  then  directs  staff  to  continue  in  good  faith  negotiations 
with  the  discharger,  so  the  Item  can  be  considered  by  the  Board  later  in  the  meeting 
or  at  a  future  meeting.  This  approach  avoids  the  Board  expending  large  amounts  of 
time  on  disputed  matters  that  are  often  highly  technical.  By  directing  staff  to  try  and 
reach  agreement  on  permitting  matters,  the  Board  can  consider  broader  issues  such 
as  rulemaking  that  may  involve  multiple  stakeholders'  presentations. 


How  do  the  state  board  and  your  regional  board  staff  assist  you  to  better 
understand  some  of  the  complex  issues  before  you?  Do  you  have  any  suggestions 
on  how  the  state  water  board's  staff  might  better  assist  you? 

Most  of  the  assistance  I  receive  comes  from  the  regional  board  staff  and  our 
attorney  from  the  Office  of  Chief  Counsel  with  the  State  Board.    Both  provide 
invaluable  assistance  in  helping  me  understand  the  many  complex  water  quality 
issues  facing  our  Region.  On  a  regular  basis,  I  am  briefed  on  issues  coming 
before  the  Board,  I  meet  with  staff  members  working  directly  on  a  particular  issue, 
and  I  meet  with  stakeholders.   I  have  also  learned  a  great  deal  from  field  tours  that 
have  helped  me  put  into  context  the  specific  issues  that  have  come  before  the 
Board. 

During  my  tenure  on  the  Board,  I  have  not  had  a  great  deal  of  interaction  with  staff 
at  the  State  level. 


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In  2005  the  Office  of  the  Secretary  of  Cal/EPA  reported  to  the  Legislature  on 
environmental  enforcement  and  suggested  that  the  state  and  regional  water  boards 
were  among  the  worst  agencies  in  enforcing  the  law.  In  2008  the  state  board,  in  its 
Strategic  Plan  2008-2012,  said  it  would  adopt  an  updated  water  quality  enforcement 
policy  by  December  2008.  That  enforcement  policy  will  now  not  be  adopted  until  mid  to 
late  2009.  On  January  1,  2009,  the  state  board  published  its  2008  enforcement  report. 
Among  other  things,  it  showed  the  number  of  violations  that  were  imposed  by  regional 
boards  compared  to  completed  enforcement  actions.  For  the  four-year  period  from  2005 
through  2008,  the  Colorado  River  Basin  Regional  Water  Board  scored  a  low  of  91 
percent  in  2005  and  a  high  of  99  percent  in  2006  and  2008  in  wastewater  violations 
compared  to  completed  enforcement  actions.  This  is  well  above  the  average  of  the  nine 
regional  boards.  For  stormwater  violations  compared  to  completed  enforcement  actions, 
the  board  scored  a  low  of  98  percent  in  2007  and  a  high  of  100  percent  in  2005  and 
2006.  This  is  well  above  the  average  of  the  nine  regional  boards. 

10.    What  is  your  view  on  how  your  board  should  enforce  water  quality  laws?  When  are 
fines  and  penalties  appropriate,  and  when  are  more  informal  actions  necessary? 


Enforcement  of  water  quality  laws  is  of  the  highest  priority  for  our  Region.  As  a  Board 
Member,  I  expect  the  staff  to  closely  track  non-compliance  with  our  Orders  and  respond 
as  rapidly  as  possible  with  the  appropriate  actions,  both  informal  and  formal,  to  avoid 
accrual  of  large  penalties  that  reflect  poorly  on  our  implementation  of  the  robust  powers 
delegated  by  the  Legislature  under  Porter-Cologne.  Due  to  careful  and  timely  review  of 
self-monitoring  reports,  early  contact  with  the  discharges  by  phone  or  e-mail,  followed 
by  written  Notices  of  Violations,  many  dischargers  react  positively  by  making  the 
necessary  operational  improvements  voluntarily.  Obviously  when  non-compliance 
triggers  mandatory  minimum  penalties,  the  RB  must  take  formal  action.  If  the 
discharger  intends  to  address  the  problem,  but  may  need  time  to  fund  and  design  the 
fixes,  the  Board  often  considers  adopting  Time  Schedule  Orders  (TSO).  The  TSO 
allows  the  discharger  to  make  the  appropriate  fixes  without  generating  more  Mandatory 
Minimum  Penalties  (MMPs)  in  the  interim.  The  goal  of  this  "attitude"  towards 
enforcement  is  to  work  cooperatively  with  stakeholders  to  protect  water  quality. 


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1 1.  Without  a  current  formal  state  board  policy  on  enforcement,  how  does  your  board 
determine  it  is  consistent  in  its  enforcement  practices  with  other  regional  boards? 

The  existing  2002  State  Board  Enforcement  Policy  provides  the  basic  underpinning  of 
our  Enforcement  Program  strategy.  Consistency  with  other  Regional  Boards  (RBs)  is 
provided  by  the  SWRCB  Office  of  Enforcement,  which  provides  prosecutorial  services 
to  the  RBs  statewide.  Additionally,  regular  Enforcement  roundtables  for  RB 
enforcement  staff  contribute  to  consistent  implementation  statewide. 

12.  How  do  you  prioritize  your  enforcement  activities  given  current  budget  constraints? 

RB7,  by  providing  quick  turnaround  responses  to  non-compliance  is  able  to  control 
enforcement  program  expenditures. 

Septic  Rule 

AB  885  (Jackson),  Chapter  781,  Statutes  of  2000,  requires  the  state  board  to  develop, 
adopt,  and  implement  statewide  regulations  for  permitting  and  operation  of  on-site 
wastewater  treatment  systems  (OWTS),  commonly  referred  to  as  the  "Septic  Rule."  This 
statewide  rule  for  septic  systems  has  been  one  of  the  most  commented  on  proposed 
regulations  and  has  seen  overflow  crowds  at  public  meetings. 

13.  Has  the  state  board  articulated  a  role  for  the  regional  boards  in  implementing  this 
rule? 

The  proposed  regulations  would  largely  be  self  implementing,  requiring  actions  by  the 
property  owners.  Oversight  would  be  provided  by  the  State  and  Regional  Boards  along 
with  local  agencies  for  citing  and  compliance.  However,  due  to  a  large  number  of 
stakeholders  throughout  the  State  taking  issue  with  the  proposed  Rule,  the  SWRCB  is 
rewriting  the  Rule  for  consideration  at  a  later  date. 


14.    How  does  the  board  intend  to  monitor,  enforce,  and  improve  septic  systems  that 
contribute  to  surface  and  groundwater  pollution? 


RB7  regulates  through  WDRs  septic  systems  with  design  flows  above  5,000  gallons  per 
day.  Through  legislation,  Basin  Plan  Amendments  and  Board  Resolutions,  RB7 
promotes  sewering  and  construction  of  public  treatment  systems  and  private  small  scale 
package  systems  in  areas  with  a  high  density  of  septic  systems 


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New  River  Pollution 

The  New  River  flows  north  from  Mexicali,  Mexico,  into  the  United  States,  just  west  of 
Calexico.  The  river  has  been  called  the  most  polluted  river  in  the  United  States,  with  raw 
sewage  and  industrial  waste  being  discharged  into  the  Mexican  portion  of  the  river. 
In  1998  the  regional  water  board  said  that  the  beneficial  uses  of  the  New  River  were 
impaired  by  bacteria,  volatile  organic  compounds,  nutrients,  silt,  and  pesticides.  Two 
projects  in  Mexico  were  developed — Mexicali  I  and  Mexicali  II.  Mexicali  I,  which  added 
and  upgraded  sewage  collectors,  was  completed  in  2004.  Mexicali  II  added  a  20  million 
gallon-per-day  wastewater  treatment  plant,  which  is  now  online. 

15.    What  progress  has  been  made,  and  what  types  of  water  quality  impairments  still 
exist?What  needs  to  be  done  to  address  the  remaining  water  quality  impairments 
in  the  New  River? 

Progress 

Las  Arenitas  WWTP  has  eliminated  the  15-20  million  gallons  per  day  of  raw  sewage 
that  were  routinely  present  in  the  New  River  at  the  Border.   Further,  Regional  Board 
monitoring  data  show  that  New  River  bacteria  were  significantly  reduced  by  about  10- 
fold,  and  that  volatile  organic  compounds  were  reduced  to  below  detection  limits  as  a 
result  of  Las  Arenitas.  The  dissolved  oxygen  in  the  New  River  at  the  Border  has  also 
improved  to  a  point  that  it  eliminated  the  stench  that  made  the  river  infamous  in  the 
Calexico  area.  Also,  the  bi-national  projects  and  WWTP  have  reduced  the  nutrient 
loading  into  the  Salton  Sea  by  about  20%. 

Remaining  issues 

In  spite  of  significant  wat^r  quality  improvements  from  the  bi-national  projects,  there  are 
still  New  River  water  quality  impairments  at  the  Border  caused  by  trash  and  non-point 
sources  of  pollution  in  Mexicali.  The  Regional  Board  continues  to  work  with  our  Federal 
agencies  to  ensure  additional  measures  are  taken  to  address  these  impairments  and 
sources  of  pollution. 

Salton  Sea 

The  Salton  Sea  is  California's  largest  inland  water  body  and  home  to  more  species  of 
birds  than  any  other  place  in  California.  Over  390  species  of  birds  have  been  identified 
at  the  Sonny  Bono  Salton  Sea  National  Wildlife  Refuge.  The  enrichment  of  nutrients  in 
the  Salton  Sea,  known  as  eutrophication,  has  sufficiently  impacted  its  uses,  including 
recreation,  fishing,  and  wildlife  resources.  Some  of  the  specific  effects  include  high  algal 
growth,  high  fish  productivity,  low  clarity,  frequent  very  low  dissolved  oxygen 
concentrations,  massive  fish  kills,  and  noxious  odors.  External  loading  of  nutrients, 
particularly  phosphorus,  is  responsible  for  the  eutrophication  of  the  Salton  Sea. 


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Approximately  75  percent  of  the  freshwater  inflow  to  the  sea  is  agricultural  drainwater 
from  Imperial  Valley,  which  is  increasing  the  sea's  salinity.  There  has  been  discussion 
that  the  recent  federal  stimulus  bill  could  assist  with  restoration  efforts. 
The  Legislature  approved  the  preferred  alternative  for  the  restoration  of  the  Salton  Sea 
and  provided  for  $47  million  in  funding  through  Senator  Ducheny's  SB  187,  Chapter 
374,  Statutes  of  2008. 

16.  How  does  the  board  monitor  Salton  Sea  water  quality  issues? 

17.  How  does  the  board  plan  to  deal  with  restoration  of  the  Salton  Sea?  What  role  can 
federal  stimulus  money  play  in  the  restoration  effort? 

The  Regional  Board  monitors  the  Salton  Sea  at  key  locations  through  its  Surface  Water 
Ambient  Monitoring  Program.   It  also  periodically  monitors  the  quality  of  the  Sea's  main 
tributaries  (the  New  and  Alamo  Rivers  and  Coachella  Valley  Stormwater  Channel) 
through  TMDLs.  Further,  the  Regional  Board  requires  the  Imperial  Irrigation  District  to 
monitor  the  quality  of  agricultural  runoff  in  the  Imperial  Valley  drains. 

I  would  ask  you  to  keep  in  mind  that  the  Salton  Sea  is  an  agricultural  drain,  which 
helped  this  region  become  a  major  food  producing  sector  of  our  State.  Secondary 
benefits  of  the  Sea  include  habitat  for  migrating  birds  and  recreational  uses.   Farmers 
are  becoming  more  efficient  in  their  reuse  of  irrigation  water  and  less  water  is  going  into 
the  Sea  each  year.  Yes,  the  Sea  is  too  salty,  however,  the  decrease  in  flows  to  the  Sea 
pose  a  far  greater  risk  to  the  region.    At  this  time,  the  cost  of  improving  the  salinity  level 
of  the  Sea  and  maintaining  that  level  is  prohibitive. 

I  have  lived  in  the  Coachella  Valley  for  19  years  and  I  assure  you  that  the  state  of  the 
Sea  is  far  more  stable  then  the  description  stated  above.  My  husband's  farming 
company  has  farmed  on  the  shore  of  the  Sea  for  over  two  decades  and  it  is  an  excellent 
environment  for  growing  fresh  fruits  and  vegetables.    The  security  of  this  nation  rests, 
in  part,  on  protecting  our  domestic  food  supply. 

Thank  you  for  giving  me  the  opportunity  to  answer  these  questions  to  the  best  of  my 
knowledge.  I  look  forward  to  continuing  to  serve  the  Colorado  River  Region.  Should 
you  have  any  questions  regarding  this  document,  please  contact  me  at  760-831-4233. 

Kindest  regards, 

Ellen  S.  Way 


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7.      Since  2005  when  you  were  first  appointed,  what  have  been  your  most  significant 
accomplishments  as  a  member  of  the  Lahontan  Regional  Water  Quality  Control 
Board?  What  do  you  hope  to  accomplish  during  your  current  tenure  as  a  member 
of  the  board?  How  will  you  measure  your  success? 

I  have  been  successful  in  directing  our  board's  attention  to  the  rapidly  growing 
practice  of  groundwater  "banking",  or  storage  of  State  Water  Project  (SWP) 
supplies  in  the  southern,  arid  portion  of  the  Lahontan  Region.  While  groundwater 
banking  is  an  important  tool  in  water  resource  management,  the  practice  runs  the 
risk  of  contaminating  native  groundwater  if  not  regulated  properly.  Also,  the 
introduction  of  SWP  water  (with  its  higher  TDS)  can  result  in  salt  accumulation  in 
closed  hydrologic  basins,  if  not  managed  properly. 

Also,  I  have  stressed  the  importance  of  directing  our  limited  resources  wisely. 
For  instance,  I  have  lobbied  successfully  to  minimize  our  involvement  with  water 
rights  issues  (quantity),  in  order  to  maintain  our  focus  on  our  primary  mission  of 
water  quality  protection. 

During  my  current  tenure  on  the  board,  I  hope  to  accomplish  the  following: 

A.  Continue  progress  in  stabilizing  Lake  Tahoe  clarity  (as  measured  by  annual 
Secchi  disk  measurements). 

B.  Amend  the  Lahontan  Basin  Plan  to  protect  prime  groundwater  recharge  areas 
of  arid  basins  (as  reflected  in  amended  Basin  Plan  provisions). 

C.  Continue  to  encourage  and  assist  sanitation  districts  with  treatment  plant 
upgrades.  Such  upgrades  will  improve  effluent  water  quality  to  levels  that  will 
allow  expanded  recycling  and  reuse,  as  measured  in  MGD  (million  gallons  per 
day). 

2.      What  do  you  believe  are  the  most  serious  issues  facing  your  board? 

Overall,  lack  of  funding  is  our  board's  most  serious  issue.  We  have  estimated 
that  we  receive  less  than  50%  of  the  funding  necessary  to  properly  fulfill  our 
responsibility  to  protect  the  region's  water  quality. 

Other  than  funding  issues,  the  most  serious  threats  in  the  northern  portion  of  the 
region  are  ground  disturbing  activities  that  threaten  to  release  sediment  into  Lake 
Tahoe  and  its  tributaries. 

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In  the  southern  portion  of  the  region,  our  most  serious  threat  is  the  discharge  of 
undertreated  domestic  sewage,  which  should  be  properly  treated,  recycled  and 
reused,  in  order  to  alleviate  growing  water  shortages  and  also  prevent 
groundwater  contamination.  Other  potential  threats  in  the  south  include  the 
accumulation  of  total  dissolved  solids  (TDS)  or  salts  in  our  groundwater  aquifers 
and  groundwater  contamination  from  dairy  wastewater  discharges. 

3.  How  does  your  board  help  the  public  understand  the  state  of  water  quality  in  your 
region?  Where  should  the  public  go  for  information  on  water  quality  issues,  such  as 
sewage  spills,  or  the  overall  quality  of  water  in  rivers  and  streams  in  your  region? 

Our  board  provides  the  following  methods  of  informing  the  public  regarding  the 
state  of  the  region's  water  quality  and  other  water  quality  issues:  the  Water 
Quality  Control  Plan  (Basin  Plan)  for  the  Lahontan  Region,  monthly  public 
meetings  (rotated  within  the  region  to  accommodate  the  widely  distributed 
population),  public  workshops  and  special  presentations,  newsletters,  public 
notices,  press  releases,  local  newspaper  articles,  general  correspondence,  an 
informative  website  and  personal  contact  by  our  staff  in  person  or  by  phone. 

State  and  Regional  Boards 

The  state  and  regional  boards  were  created  nearly  four  decades  ago.  In  January  2009 
the  Little  Hoover  Commission  issued  a  report  on  improving  the  performance  of  the 
state's  water  boards.  One  of  the  findings  was  that  the  relationship  between  the  state 
and  regional  boards  is  not  well-defined.  This  has  led,  they  believe,  to  inconsistencies 
and  inefficiencies  among  boards,  an  inability  to  set  statewide  priorities,  and  a  lack  of 
focus  by  the  state  board  on  holding  regional  boards  accountable  for  clean  water 
outcomes. 

The  report  also  found  that  there  is  little  focus  on  clean  water  outcomes  or  accountability. 
Regional  boards  admit  they  have  difficulty  in  analyzing  watersheds  to  determine 
whether  their  programs  are  protecting  and  improving  water  quality.  Regional  water 
boards'  focus  is  more  on  issuing  permits  and  determining  whether  dischargers  abide  by 
permits  than  determining  if  the  water  is  actually  getting  cleaner. 

Another  issue  that  has  been  raised  in  the  past,  and  also  discussed  in  the  recent 
commission  report,  is  that  many  of  the  issues  board  members  have  to  deal  with  are  very 
technical,  and  a  number  of  board  members  are,  basically,  volunteers  and  do  not  have 
such  formal  technical  experience. 

4.  a.   What  is  your  view  of  the  relationship  between  the  state  board  and  your  regional 
board? 

I  believe  that  the  relationship  between  the  State  and  regional  boards 
should  facilitate  coordination  of  respective  activities  to  achieve  a  unified 
and  effective  water  quality  control  program  for  California,  as  specified  in 


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the  Porter-Cologne  Water  Quality  Control  Act.   Additionally,  the  State 
Board  sets  statewide  policy  for  the  implementation  of  state  and  federal 
laws  and  regulations.   The  statewide  policy  must  be  incorporated  into  the 
Water  Quality  Control  Plans  adopted  and  implemented  by  the  regional 
boards. 

From  my  observations  in  my  first  term,  the  relationship  defined  above  is 
respected  and  in  effect  between  Lahontan  and  the  State  Board. 
Furthermore,  I  have  a  strong  sense  that  our  staff  and  board  willingly 
recognize  the  State  Board  authority. 

4.  b.   What  type  of  guidance  do  you  receive  from  the  state  board? 

Members  of  the  state  board  frequently  attend  our  regional  board  meetings  and 
brief  us  on  current  events  and  discussions,  status  of  policy  changes,  proposed 
legislative  actions,  etc.  The  state  board  provides  legal  guidance  through  the 
attorneys  assigned  to  serve  our  regional  board.  Additionally,  our  executive 
officer  maintains  close  contact  with  state  board  members  and  staff,  for  further 
guidance  with  respect  to  specific  issues. 

5.  How  do  you  balance  the  board's  focus  on  the  permitting  process  and  the  focus  on 
broad  policy  issues,  such  as  updating  basin  plans  and  setting  regional  priorities?  What 
is  the  best  use  of  the  board's  time? 

The  permitting  process  is  always  an  immediate  and  urgent  concern  that  must  be 
addressed  on  a  daily  basis,  most  of  which  is  performed  by  staff  and  then 
submitted  to  the  board  for  consideration.  However,  broad  policy  issues  must  be 
determined  by  the  board.  Therefore,  I  believe  that  the  majority  of  the  board's 
focus  should  be  placed  upon  the  broad  policy  issues,  such  as  basin  plan 
amendments,  regional  priorities,  positions  on  issues  of  regional  significance,  etc. 
Consequently,  these  same  policy  issues  represent  the  best  use  of  the  board's 
time.  Staff  is  capable  of  efficient  performance,  only  if  clear,  sound  policies  and 
priorities  have  been  established  by  the  board. 

6.  How  do  the  state  board  and  your  regional  board  staff  assist  you  to  better 
understand  some  of  the  complex  issues  before  you?  Do  you  have  any  suggestions  on 
how  the  state  water  board's  staff  might  better  assist  you? 

While  it  is  true  that  my  role  as  a  board  member  is  full  of  challenges,  and 
represents  a  significant  learning  experience  in  many  respects, 
environmental  science  is  not  one  of  them.    Fortunately,  my  background 
(M.S.  in  mechanical  engineering;  15  years  environmental  management 
experience  for  the  federal  government)  has  provided  me  a  good  foundation 
for  the  technical  challenges  facing  board  members.   However,  whenever  I 
do  happen  to  need  additional  information  to  study  a  board  issue,  the 
Lahontan  staff  is  eager  to  provide  prompt,  effective  assistance. 


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Because  of  the  fine  support  I  have  been  provided,  and  because  of  my 
background,  I  have  no  suggestions  for  improvement  of  my  situation. 
However,  new  board  members  without  a  technical  background  would 
probably  benefit  from  general  orientation  seminars,  if  provided  by  the 
state  board. 

Enforcement 

In  2005  the  Office  of  the  Secretary  of  Cal/EPA  reported  to  the  Legislature  on 
environmental  enforcement  and  suggested  that  the  state  and  regional  water  boards 
were  among  the  worst  agencies  in  enforcing  the  law.  In  2008  the  state  board,  in  its 
Strategic  Plan  2008-2012,  said  it  would  adopt  an  updated  water  quality  enforcement 
policy  by  December  2008.  That  enforcement  policy  will  now  not  be  adopted  until  mid  to 
late  2009.  On  January  1 ,  2009,  the  state  board  published  its  2008  enforcement  report. 
Among  other  things,  it  showed  the  number  of  violations  that  were  imposed  by  regional 
boards  compared  to  completed  enforcement  actions.  For  the  four-year  period  from  2005 
through  2008,  the  Lahontan  regional  water  board  scored  a  low  of  35  percent  in  2007 
and  a  high  of  96  percent  in  2006  in  wastewater  violations  compared  to  completed 
enforcement  actions.  This  is  about  average  of  the  nine  regional  boards.  For  storm  water 
violations  compared  to  completed  enforcement  actions,  the  board  scored  a  low  of  38 
percent  in  2006  and  a  high  of  56  percent  in  2007.  This  is  well  below  the  average  of  the 
nine  regional  boards. 

7.         What  is  your  view  on  how  your  board  snould  enforce  water  quality  laws?  When 
are  fines  and  penalties  appropriate,  and  when  are  more  informal  actions  necessary? 

I  believe  that  water  quality  laws  should  be  enforced  fairly,  firmly,  uniformly  and 
preferably  through  a  cooperative  and  mutually  respectful  effort  with  dischargers 
and  the  public  in  general.  I  believe  that  the  vast  majority  of  dischargers  sincerely 
try  to  maintain  compliance  with  the  law  and  their  permits.  We  as  a  board  can 
assist  the  dischargers'  compliance  efforts  by  producing  fair  and  reasonable 
Basin  Plans  and  waste  discharge  requirements  that  are  protective  of  water  quality 
and  still  take  into  consideration  comments  from  dischargers. 

I  believe  that  fines  and  penalties  are  appropriate  only  when  they  can  be  expected 
to  produce  the  desired  result-  compliance.  Responsible  dischargers,  who  are 
sincerely  attempting  to  comply,  and  yet  occasionally  fail,  will  not  always  be 
positively  influenced  by  fines  and  penalties.  However,  irresponsible  dischargers 
who  knowingly  violate  permits  for  economic  gain  can  be  quickly  convinced  to 
comply  through  the  imposition  of  the  economic  disincentives  of  fines  and 
penalties.  The  challenge  for  our  board  then  becomes:  "How  do  we  distinguish 
between  these  two  types  of  noncompliance?"  I  make  the  distinction  by 
considering  the  following  factors: 


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(1 .)  Prior  history  of  violations. 

(2.)  Any  voluntary  cleanup  efforts  undertaken  by  the  discharger. 

(3.)  The  degree  of  culpability. 

(4.)  Economic  savings  to  the  discharger  resulting  from  the  violation. 

(5.)  The  specific  nature  and  circumstances  of  the  violation. 

8.  Without  a  current  formal  state  board  policy  on  enforcement,  how  does  your  board 
determine  it  is  consistent  in  its  enforcement  practices  with  other  regional  boards? 

The  state  board  is  accepting  comments  on  its  Draft  Water  Quality  Enforcement 
Policy  until  May  28,  2009.  Until  the  policy  is  finalized,  we  can  maintain 
consistency  in  enforcement  practices  through  interactions  and  discussions  with 
the  state  board  and  regional  boards  at  forums  such  as  the  Water  Quality 
Coordinating  Committee  meetings  and  others.  We  also  monitor  enforcement 
actions  of  other  regional  boards  through  news  reports,  the  DWR  news  service, 
general  correspondence,  various  data  bases,  interactions  with  dischargers  who 
operate  in  other  regions,  etc.  Our  executive  officer  maintains  relationships  with 
other  regions  and  the  state  board,  and  relates  to  our  board  the  information  he 
gathers  from  formal  reports  and  personal  discussions.  Also,  because  each 
regional  board  attorney  is  assigned  from  a  pool  of  legal  professionals  at  the  state 
board,  we  benefit  from  the  close  relationship  our  attorney  maintains  with  the 
state  board,  whose  oversight  obviously  extends  to  other  regions. 

9.  How  do  you  prioritize  your  enforcement  activities  given  current  budget 
constraints? 

When  prioritizing,  I  consider  such  factors  as  the  degree  of  toxicity,  proximity  to 
sensitive  receptors,  quantity  of  discharge,  ability  to  remediate,  existing  quality  of 
receiving  waters,  etc.  I  place  the  greatest  emphasis  on  violations  that  have  the 
highest  potential  to  threaten  the  health  and  safety  of  the  general  population.  For 
instance,  I  would  place  a  higher  priority  on  stopping  a  discharge  of  untreated 
sewage  into  a  drinking  water  supply,  than  I  would  place  on  stopping  a  discharge 
of  inert  sediment  into  the  same  drinking  water  supply. 

Emerging  Contaminants 

Last  year  the  Associated  Press  (AP)  reported  that  a  vast  array  of  pharmaceuticals  and 
over-the-counter  medicines  were  detected  in  the  drinking  water  supplies  of  24  major 
metropolitan  areas — from  Southern  California  to  New  Jersey.  Additionally,  AP's 
investigation  indicated  that  watersheds,  the  natural  sources  of  most  of  the  nation's 
water  supply,  are  also  contaminated.  These  pharmaceuticals  are  manufactured  to  be 
active  at  small  doses.  Although  the  concentrations  of  these  pharmaceuticals  are 
miniscule,  worries  among  scientists  are  heightening  because  of  the  long-term 
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In  November  2008  board  staff  attended  the  Symposium  on  Emerging  Contaminants. 
The  event  presented  the  latest  developments  in  detection,  risk  assessment, 
remediation,  and  regulation  of  emerging  contaminants  in  groundwater. 

1 0.  What  is  your  view  of  the  role  regional  water  boards  should  be  playing  regarding 
this  issue? 

The  regional  boards  must  keep  themselves  informed  of  these  emerging 
contaminants  so  that  they  can  properly  recognize  and  assess  the  threats  that 
they  pose,  in  order  to  subsequently  be  able  to  prioritize  and  allocate  resources 
accordingly.  The  regional  boards  should  also  be  prepared  to  offer  the  benefits  of 
their  experiences  (when  applicable)  to  the  state  board  and  the  Department  of 
Public  Health. 

Also,  in  accordance  with  the  provisions  of  the  state  board  Recycled  Water  Policy, 
a  CEC  (Contaminants  of  Emerging  Concern)  Advisory  Panel  has  been  established 
to  address  questions  about  regulating  CECs  with  respect  to  the  use  of  recycled 
water.  The  panel  will  provide  recommendations  to  the  State  Water  Board  and 
Department  of  Public  Health.  The  panel  was  convened  on  May  4,  2009  and  will 
hold  meetings  later  in  2009  and  in  2010.  Our  regional  board  will  monitor  the 
panel's  activity  and  participate  as  appropriate. 

1 1.  Should  the  state  board — through  the  regional  boards — be  working  with  the 
Department  of  Public  Health  to  require  testing  and  set  safety  limits  for  drugs  in  dhnking 
water? 

Yes,  the  state  board  should  offer  assistance  during  the  process  of  establishing 
drug  concentration  limits  in  drinking  water.  Also,  the  state  board  should  provide 
the  regional  boards  with  an  opportunity  to  comment. 

Lake  Tahoe 

The  clarity  of  Lake  Tahoe  has  been  declining  for  decades.  The  lake's  visibility  has 
dropped  an  average  of  1  foot  a  year  between  1968  and  1988;  from  1988-2008  it  has 
slowed  to  one-half  foot  per  year.  The  clarity  has  dropped  from  about  100  feet  in  the 
1960s  to  between  65  and  70  feet  today.  Currently,  your  board  is  developing  a  Lake 
Clarity  Crediting  Program  to  link  water  quality  improvement  projects  within  the  urban 
landscape  to  load  reduction  credits.  According  to  the  University  of  California,  Davis, 
Tahoe  Environmental  Research  Center,  a  35  percent  reduction  in  three  types  of 
pollution — nitrogen,  phosphorus,  and  fine  sediment — could  restore  the  lake's  clarity  to 
the  level  seen  in  the  1970s. 

12.  In  your  letter  to  the  Rules  Committee  in  2005,  you  said  that  by  the  end  of  your 
term  (September  2008)  you  would  like  to  have  reversed  the  longstanding  trend  of 
declining  clarity  in  Lake  Tahoe.  How  close  is  the  board  to  achieving  this  goal? 


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Unfortunately,  my  stated  goal  in  2005  of  reversing  the  decline  of  Lake  Tahoe 
clarity  was  overly  optimistic.  Even  though  the  rate  of  decline  has  been  reduced, 
the  actual  clarity  is  less  today  than  in  2005.  However,  with  the  implementation  in 
the  near  future  of  the  Lake  Tahoe  TMDL  (Total  Maximum  Daily  Load)  for  sediment 
and  nutrients  (nitrogen  and  phosphorous),  I  believe  it  is  realistic  to  expect  to  see 
clarity  improvements  by  2020. 

13.  How  does  the  board  envision  using  the  Lake  Clarity  Crediting  Program  to 
improve  the  lake's  clarity? 

This  crediting  program  is  a  tool  developed  by  the  Lake  Tahoe  TMDL  team,  of 
which  our  board  is  a  member.  The  crediting  program  will  provide  the  basis  for 
tracking  compliance  with  each  jurisdiction's  allocation.  Also,  it  is  intended  to 
provide  implementation  flexibility,  encourage  effective  and  innovative  practices, 
foster  cooperative  water  quality  improvement  efforts  and  provide  a  consistent 
methodology  to  assess  Municipal  National  Pollutant  Discharge  Elimination 
System  (NPDES)  Storm  Water  Permit  compliance.  We  expect  to  incorporate 
jurisdiction-specific  load  allocations  and  associated  targets  into  updated  NPDES 
permits  in  2010  following  TMDL  adoption.  The  permits  will  include  (in  the 
Monitoring  &  Reporting  Programs)  crediting  mechanisms  to  estimate  pollutant 
load  reductions  associated  with  various  implementation  actions.  Such  activities 
might  include  erosion  control  projects,  residential  best  management  practices, 
and  water  quality  infrastructure  maintenance  work  by  municipalities  and  Caltrans. 
The  crediting  program  will  help  define  specific  rules  and  modeling  tools 
necessary  to  estimate  load  reductions.  We  anticipate  that  regional  monitoring 
efforts  and  improvements  in  technology  will  help  refine  these  estimates  over 
time.  An  adaptive  management  framework  will  provide  the  means  to  incorporate 
new  information  into  the  crediting  system  to  track  TMDL  implementation 
progress. 

14.  What  other  actions  could  the  board  take  to  improve  the  clarity  of  the  lake? 

Our  board  will  implement  BMPs  (Best  Management  Plans)  and  appropriate  Basin 
Plan  amendments.  Also,  through  the  permitting  process,  our  board  will  require 
dischargers  to  incorporate  into  their  projects,  stream  restorations,  storm  water 
runoff  controls  (infiltration  basins,  filtration  galleries,  etc),  dirt  road  maintenance 
or  closure,  road  abrasive  application  management,  slope  stabilizations,  etc. 

Lake  Tahoe  Basin  Wildfires 

A  major  public  concern  in  the  Lake  Tahoe  Basin  remains  the  threat  of  catastrophic  fire. 
The  Angora  Fire  that  erupted  in  June  2007  destroyed  more  than  250  homes  on  the 
California  side  of  the  Tahoe  Basin,  and  over  $141  million  in  damage  occurred.  In  the 
wake  of  this  fire,  public  agencies  with  environmental  and  regulatory  oversight  of  the 
Tahoe  Basin  were  criticized  for  allowing  bureaucratic  red  tape  to  hinder  the 
advancement  of  efforts  to  prevent  such  disasters.  Your  board  is  now  part  of  the  Tahoe 


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Forest  Fuels  Team  that  met  January  29,  2009,  and  briefed  participants  on  a  process  for 
implementing  2009  field  season  fuel  reduction  projects. 

1 5.       How  do  you  view  the  work  of  your  board  and  other  local  agencies  that  participate 
on  the  Tahoe  Forest  Fuels  Team?  Have  communications  improved  among  local 
agencies?  Are  water  quality  concerns  of  your  board  addressed  in  the  fuels  reduction 
program? 

Each  member  of  the  Tahoe  Forest  Fuels  Team  maintains  a  unique  position  on  the 
team  and  a  unique  mission  within  the  Tahoe  Basin.  Understandably,  each 
member  initially  displayed  reluctance  to  share  authority  or  compromise  long- 
standing positions.  However,  the  team  members  have  now  successfully  forged  a 
mutually  respectful  alliance  that  is  dedicated  to  significantly  reducing  wild  fire 
threats,  while  still  protecting  water  quality. 

Although  our  regional  board  has  historically  placed  great  value  on  public  input  in 
development  of  plans  and  policies,  the  June  2007  Angora  Fire  generated  a  new 
and  urgent  need  for  additional  teamwork  and  cooperation  with  the  public  and 
other  local  agencies.  Because  of  this  urgent  need  for  teamwork  in  the  mutual 
goal  of  making  the  Tahoe  Basin  safer  from  wild  fires,  communications  have 
improved  significantly,  and  we  have  experienced  improved  trust  among  the  team 
members,  who  have  shown  a  new  willingness  to  compromise  on  important 
issues. 

In  fact,  on  May  14,  2009,  our  regional  board  approved  the  "Waiver  of  Waste 
Discharge  Requirements  for  Timber  Harvest  and  Vegetation  Management 
Activities",  which  will  drastically  streamline  the  regulatory  process  which 
governs  fuels  reduction  activities,  and  in  turn  reduce  wild  fire  threats.  Also,  our 
board  approved  a  waiver  in  December  2008  which  allows  fuels  reduction  projects 
to  proceed  without  water  board  permits,  if  the  projects  are  regulated  by  the  Tahoe 
Regional  Planning  Authority.  These  waivers  demonstrate  our  trust  in  the  other 
members  of  the  Tahoe  Forest  Fuels  team.  The  approval  of  the  waivers  required 
considerable  open  and  sincere  negotiations  among  the  many  stakeholders,  and 
was  approved  only  after  all  water  quality  concerns  had  been  thoroughly 
addressed. 


Respectfully  submitted, 


Keith  Dyas 
May  22,  2009 


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Heidi  J.  Carpenter-Harris 

Responses 

WQCB,  North  Coast  Region 


Statement  of  Goals 


1.  What  have  been  your  most  significant  accomplishments  as  a  member  of  the  North 
Coast  Regional  Water  Quality  Control  Board? 

Because  of  my  background  working  with  RCD's,  the  NRCS  and  other  landowner 
groups,  I  have  been  able  to  foster  a  collaborative  atmosphere  for  the  Board  to  work 
closely  with  the  folks  on  the  ground.  It  has  proven  to  be  a  prosperous  union  for 
working  with  private  landowners  in  the  Scott  and  Shasta  communities.  My  work 
with  landowners  gives  me  an  insight  to  how  people  work  with  and  view  governing 
agencies.  This  has  given  me  an  opportunity  to  bring  simple  suggestions  to  staff 
and  the  board  that  foster  a  "let's  work  together"  approach  verses  a  "regulator  and 
the  regulated"  that  sometimes  comes  with  regulatory  bodies.  The  feed  back  has 
improved  greatly  from  the  communities  regarding  their  correspondence  with  staff. 
Kudos  to  the  Water  Board  Staff! 

2.  What  do  you  hope  to  accomplish  during  your  current  tenure  as  a  member  of  the 
board?  What  goals  do  you  have  for  the  board,  and  how  will  you  accomplish  them? 
How  will  you  measure  your  success? 

I  hope  to  continue  to  work  hard  at  making  the  decisions  needed  to  make  things 

happen  on  the  ground. 

I  will  continue  to  encourage  our  board  to  work  with  other  state  agency,  RCD's,  and 

landowner  groups  who  have  the  same  or  similar  goals  as  our  board.  In  these  times 

of  little  money,  we  need  to  work  together.  On  many  occasions,  it  has  been 

collaborative  efforts  that  have  brought  us  the  scientific  data  needed  to  work  through 

and  make  good  decisions. 

Success  will  be  measured  by  projects  accomplished,  successful  networking  and 

relationships  with  our  partners. 


3.      What  do  you  believe  are  the  most  critical  issues  currently  facing  the  board? 

The  development  and  adoption  of  the  TMDL's  and  their  work  plans.  The  Klamath 
River  issues  represent  a  challenging  time  of  change  in  our  region.  Working  through 
these  issues  will  be  critical  and  we  will  need  to  practice  wisdom,  knowledge  and  for 
thought. 


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State  and  Regional  Board  Roles 

The  issues  addressed  by  regional  water  boards  are  often  scientifically  complex. 
Preparation  for  hearings  can  be  time-consuming  for  board  members,  particularly 
considering  these  are  part-time  positions. 

4.  How  do  the  state  board  and  the  North  Coast  board  assist  you  in  understanding  and 
analyzing  complex  issues  before  your  board? 

We  are  provided  with  a  prolifera  of  documents  before  our  meetings.  These  are 
delivered  to  us  in  due  time  to  study  them  before  the  meetings.  We  also  have  the 
opportunity  for  briefings  on  particularly  large  or  complex  items.  We  are  made  aware 
of  workshops  and  there  locations.  We  also  have  access  to  staff  for  questions  and 
ourEO  is  available  to  assist  us.  Information  is  also  sent  to  us  on  a  regular  basis 
through  e-mail. 

5.  What  training  have  you  received  to  help  you  better  understand  when  you  might 
have  a  conflict  of  interest  regarding  an  issue  on  your  board's  agenda?  How  do  you 
know  when  to  withdraw  yourself  from  voting  on  an  issue? 

I  received  training  when  I  was  first  appointed  to  the  Water  Board.  Continual 
reminders  are  issued  from  our  attorneys  duhng  Board  Meetings.  We  have  also 
received  information  regarding  this  at  the  WQCC  Meetings. 
I  know  when  to  withdraw  my  self  from  these  trainings  and  from  consultation  with 
our  attorneys. 

Public  Outreach 

This  board  covers  an  expansive  regicr  of  the  state,  encompassing  a  total  area  of 
approximately  19,390  square  miles,  including  340  miles  of  scenic  coastline  and  remote 
wilderness  areas,  urban  areas,  and  agricultural  land. 

6.  How  does  your  board  assist  the  public  in  understanding  the  state  of  water  quality  in 
your  region?  Do  you  believe  that  the  information  on  your  Web  site  is  adequate? 

The  Board  abides  routinely  by  the  public  notice  rules  in  regards  to  any  item 
requiring  notice  and  the  location,  date  and  time  of  our  meetings.  The  website  and 
mailers  keep  anyone  who  wants  to  be  informed. 
I  believe  the  information  on  the  website  is  adequate. 

7.  What  do  you  believe  are  the  most  effective  means  of  communication  to  inform  the 
public  on  more  immediate  water  quality  issues,  such  as  beach  closures  and 
sewage  spills? 

Postings  at  the  site,  local  media,  local  authorities  and  community  bulletin  boards. 


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Federal  Economic  Stimulus  Funds 

On  February  17,  2009,  President  Obama  signed  HR  1,  the  American  Recovery  and 
Reinvestment  Act  of  2009  (ARRA),  which  provides  $787  billion  in  economic  investment 
nationally.  The  goals  of  ARRA  are  to  jump-start  the  economy  and  create  jobs  for 
Americans  in  an  accountable,  transparent  manner.  California  is  the  beneficiary  of 
approximately  $50  billion  for  a  variety  of  statewide  programs.  A  portion  of  funds  are 
targeted  for  environmental  issues,  including  over  $283  billion  to  California's  Clean 
Water  State  Revolving  Fund  for  loans  and  grants  for  wastewater  treatment  systems, 
nonpoint  source  implementation,  and  estuary  enhancement. 

8.      What  is  the  board  doing  to  ensure  that  the  region  benefits  from  ARRA  funding? 

Staff  has  been  helping  local  watershed  groups  and  RCD's  access  information  in 
Sacramento  that  will  help  them  locate  funding  opportunities.  We  have  been  trying 
to  assist  grantees;  particularly  in  our  TMDL  watersheds  to  prepare  proposals. 
We  have  an  adequate  list  of  interested  small  wastewater  systems. 


California  State  Budget  Crisis 

California's  dire  fiscal  situation  has  affected  all  parts  of  state  government. 

9.      How  do  you,  as  a  board  member,  stay  informed  of  the  fiscal  resources  available  to 
your  board?  How  does  your  board  prioritize  activities  if  not  all  can  be  undertaken? 
What  are  your  priorities? 

Our  EO  and  assistant  EO  provide  us  with  budget  information  at  every  board 
meeting.  They  also  provide  us  updates  when  situations  arise  though  e-mail 
communications. 

We  move  forward  on  those  items  that  the  State  Board  and  /or  Cal  EPA  have  a 
mandate  on.  Example:  TMDL's.  We  must  attempt  to  stay  on  top  of  our  enforcement 
in  order  to  generate  the  revenue  and  give  "teeth"  to  our  bite.  In  these,  and  our 
other  charges  we  should  never  forget  our  first  and  primary  responsibility,  that  is,  to 
protect  the  waters  of  the  state  for  their  beneficial  uses  and  properly  serve  the 
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Enforcement  of  Water  Quality  Laws 

Several  years  ago,  the  Office  of  the  Secretary  of  Cal/EPA  reported  to  the  Legislature  on 
environmental  enforcement  and  suggested  that  the  state  and  regional  water  boards 
were  among  the  worst  agencies  in  enforcing  the  law. 

The  report  stated  that  the  boards  were  very  slow  to  enforce  clean  water  laws,  almost 
never  sought  criminal  penalties  for  serious  violations,  and  generally  did  not  aggressively 
pursue  violators. 

10.  What  enforcement  options  do  you  believe  provide  the  most  effective  tools  for 
violations  of  board  orders? 

When  the  violator  falls  under  the  requirements  for  a  compliance  project,  this  allows 
for  a  portion  of  the  fine  to  be  paid  in  cash  and  a  portion  to  go  towards  site 
compliance.  When  a  violator  does  not  qualify  for  this,  fines  are  our  only  recourse. 
This  is  very  hard  for  small  community  systems.  They  often  do  not  have  the  money 
to  bring  their  systems  up  to  date,  therefore  fines  just  set  them  back  even  more.  The 
MMP's  are  very  difficult  for  small  rural  systems  to  meet 

11.  What  staff  is  available  to  assist  you  in  enforcing  Water  quality  laws?  Is  the  number 
of  staff  adequate  for  enforcement  purposes?  If  you  must  pnoritize  enforcement 
efforts,  what  are  the  priorities  and  how  are  they  determined? 

We  have  an  enforcement  team  that  deals  with  all  enforcements.  No,  the  number  of 
employee's  is  not  adequate.  Enforcement  deals  with  those  who  pose  an  imminent 
threat  to  water  quality  first.  Violators  who  have  exhausted  all  of  our  staffs  good 
faith  efforts  and  have  been  "on  the  books"  for  a  while  also  need  to  be  dealt  with.  It 
at  times  can  be  a  challenge  with  the  minimal  staff  we  have. 

Harmful  Algal  Blooms  and  Klamath  River  Total  Maximum  Daily  Loads 

Blue-green  algae  blooms  have  been  found  in  the  Klamath  River,  Big  Lagoon,  and  the 
Eel  River.  A  study  by  the  Center  for  Integrated  Marine  Technologies  (CIMT)  points  out 
that  these  blooms  negatively  affect  fish,  marine  mammals,  and  seabirds.  Some  algal 
species  cause  large  fish  kills  by  clogging  up  or  lacerating  the  fish's  gills. 

The  CIMT  report  said  that  there  is  growing  evidence  that  human  contributions  of 
phosphorus  and  nitrogen  are  causing  the  blooms  to  occur  more  frequently  and 
contributing  to  their  duration  and  severity.  A  presentation  to  your  board  on  December  1 1 
discussed  the  total  maximum  daily  load  (TMDL)  process  for  the  Klamath  River.  Staff 
said  that  76  to  80  percent  of  the  phosphorus  and  nitrogen  would  have  to  be  eliminated 
in  the  river  to  achieve  TMDL  compliance.  Staff  also  indicated  that  the  TMDL  would  not 
directly  deal  with  blue-green  algae. 


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12.  How  serious  are  the  negative  effects  of  algal  blooms  on  fisheries  and  marine 
mammals?  How  does  your  board  currently  determine  the  seriousness  of  those 
effects? 

Our  staff  has  received  training  at  technical  workshops  concerning  the  blue  green 
algae  and  its  affects.  Staff  has  and  will  continue  to  work  closely  with  the  Office  of 
Environmental  Health  Hazard  Assessment,  Department  of  Public  Health,  and  the 
USEPA.  This  relationship  will  provide  our  board  with  the  information  needed  on 
blue  green  algae. 

13.  How  is  the  adoption  of  the  Klamath  River  TMDLs  integral,  if  at  all,  to  the  broader 
discussion  of  poor  water  quality  and  dam  removal  on  the  river? 

Both  federal  and  state  law  gives  the  bistate  TMDL's  and  their  implementation  the 
regulatory  tools  to  clean  up  the  pollution  in  the  river.  The  Klamath  River  TMDL  will 
provide  a  comprehensive  examination  of  pollution  sources  and  remedies.  This 
TMDL  will  play  a  vital  role  in  the  future  of  the  Klamath  River. 


Emerging  Contaminants 

New  and  emerging  contaminants  may  be  present,  but  not  detected.  Among  these  are 
pharmaceuticals  and  personal  care  products,  industrial  chemicals  present  at  low 
concentrations,  and  chemicals  that  may  affect  the  hormone  system,  referred  to  as 
"endocrine  disruptors." 

Additionally,  new  testing  by  independent  organizations  has  turned  up  pharmaceuticals 
and  over-the-counter  medicines  affecting  drinking  water  supplies  across  the  country. 
While  the  findings  reported  by  the  Associated  Press  in  March  2008  involve  miniscule 
amounts  of  various  pharmaceuticals,  concerns  over  long-term  consequences  to  human 
health  and  possible  additional  testing  have  resurfaced. 

Under  current  law,  required  testing  and  standard  limits  for  pharmaceuticals  and 
over-the-counter  drugs  in  drinking  water  are  minimal.  Beginning  in  January  2008, 
several  water  systems  began  monitoring  under  the  U.S.  Environmental  Protection 
Agency  (U.S.  EPA)  Unregulated  Contaminant  Monitoring  Regulation  for  contaminants 
selected  from  the  contaminant  candidate  lists.  These  are  potential  contaminants  that 
U.S.  EPA  may  regulate  in  the  future.  Federal  and  state  laws  give  authority  to  U.S.  EPA, 
the  California  Department  of  Public  Health,  or  the  regional  water  boards  to  regulate 
contaminants,  which  could  include  pharmaceuticals. 

The  Department  of  Public  Health  has  developed  draft  regulations  and  is  proposing  to 
require  an  analysis  of  specific  unregulated  chemicals  and  report  detections  for  certain 


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groundwater  recharge  and  reuse  projects.  These  chemicals  include  pharmaceuticals, 
endocrine  disruptors,  and  other  wastewater  indicator  chemicals. 

14.  To  what  degree  should  the  state  water  board,  regional  boards,  and  the  California 
Department  of  Public  Health  coordinate  with  one  another  to  mandate  testing  and 
set  safety  limits  for  drugs  in  drinking  water?  Do  you  believe  this  is  an  issue  that 
should  be  dealt  with  on  a  region-by-region  basis? 

Because  our  waters  often  cross  region  and  state  boundaries  it  would  be  difficult  to 
uphold  water  quality  standards  in  our  region  alone  or  in  our  state  alone.  I  would 
suggest  that  this  situation  may  be  one  better  addressed  by  the  USEPA.  In  doing 
so,  standards  can  be  set  on  a  nation  wide  basis;  to  ensure  water  quality,  as  it 
meanders  its  way  through  our  nation  to  the  sea. 

15.  Is  your  board  monitoring  these  and  other  emerging  contaminants?  How  are  you 
informed  of  new  sources  of  pollution? 

We  have  no  monitoring  program  in  place  at  this  time.  We  are  currently  waiting  for 
direction  from  the  SWRCB. 


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f .         H//?af  have  been  your  most  significant  accomplishments  as  a  member  of  the  North  Coast 
Regional  Water  Quality  Control  Board? 


Answer: 


The  most  significant  accomplishment  I  feel  I  have  obtained  is  the  education  and  wisdom 
gained  via  discussions  with  the  long  tenured  board  members  and  staff.   Workshops,  seminars 
and  board  meetings  have  enlightened  me  to  current  issues.  Listening  to  permitees, 
environmentalists  and  other  concerned  entities  have  given  me  various  perspectives  which 
have  assisted  in  my  decision  making. 

Representing  municipal  government  I  have  also  focused  on  the  impacts  of  issues  and 
regulations  regarding  communities  in  my  region.   I  feel  I  have  made  accomplishments  in 
recognizing  the  impacts  to  these  communities  and  bringing  together  productive  communication 
between  water  board  staff  and  permitees  in  furthering  cooperative  compliance. 

I  am  an  active  participant  in  the  League  of  California  Cities  and  have  become  a  committee 
member  to  the  Water  Use  Group  which  is  looking  to  develop  a  better,  closer  relationship  with 
the  State  Board  and  Regional  Boards.  I  am  currently  on  a  list  to  interview  for  an  "At  Large 
Director"  position  on  the  League's  Board  which  has  been  a  goal  of  mine  to  have  an  important 
say  representing  rural  communities  in  northern  California.   There  are  current  important  issues 
on  water  legislation  which  the  board  has  final  say  for  recommendations  to  the  legislature  and 
Governor.   Water  legislation  will  become  even  more  present  going  into  the  future  and  it  is 
necessary  to  provide  reasonable  assistance  both  economic  and  compliance  friendly  policy  to 
all  concerned  permitees,  agencies  and  the  environmental  population. 

Maybe  last  but  not  least  I  have  increased  awareness  of  water  issues,  compliance  procedure 
and  water  policy  effecting  our  own  community.  I  have  communicated  the  importance  of  being 
proactive  as  a  city  council  and  the  need  to  enhance  the  relationship  between  the  city  staff  and 
regional  board. 


What  do  you  hope  to  accomplish  during  your  current  tenure  as  a  member  of  the  board?  What 
goals  do  you  have  for  the  board,  and  how  will  you  accomplish  them?  How  will  you  measure 
your  success? 


Answer: 


Increasing  my  knowledge  of  water  issues  and  policy  enhances  my  ability  to  make  reasonably 
good  decisions  regarding  compliance  enforcement.  It  is  my  goal  to  become  a  better  board 
member  by  continuing  my  education  via  training,  using  the  water  board  website  and  learning 
from  the  experienced  board  members  and  staff. 

I  hope  to  accomplish  some  of  the  goals  I  focused  on  during  my  first  2  years  as  they  still 

present  an  ongoing  challenge.  Encouraging  providers,  dischargers,  environmentalists  and 

other  affected  entities  to  take  a  more  proactive  approach  in  water  policy  compliance  and  to 

develop  a  more  positive  working  relationship  with  water  board  staff.   The  workshops  have 

been  a  fairly  successful  approach  in  working  toward  this  goal  and  has  been  valuable  in 

development  of  policy  and  procedures.  «_  .    _.        _ 

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One  of  the  big  challenges  for  our  regional  board  is  to  implement  a  backlog  of  TMDL's  and  in 
this  time  of  budget  woes  presents  great  concern  in  accomplishing  this  task.  Streamlining 
procedure  and  use  of  staff  time  looks  to  be  an  avenue  of  some  relief  and  the  board  needs  to 
be  creative  in  planning  to  address  these  issues.  Litigation  is  expensive  and  therefore  we  need 
to  be  good  stewards  in  budget  planning,  spending  and  monitoring. 

The  North  Coast  Region  faces  many  challenges  due  to  it's  size,  remoteness  and  resources.  It 
should  be  the  goal  of  this  board  to  focus  on  cost  effectiveness  in  all  areas  and  implement  the 
fore  mentioned  actions  which  in  part  has  been  taking  place  recently. 

Communicating  and  working  with  the  state  board  will  play  an  important  role  in  our  need  to 
accomplish  regional  board  goals  and  working  as  a  team  will  have  a  positive  impact  in  our 
effectiveness.  Our  success  will  be  measured  by  the  failures  of  our  past  and  the  new 
foundation  laid  down  on  how  things  are  done  and  how  money  is  spent. 

3.         What  do  you  believe  are  the  most  critical  issues  currently  facing  the  board? 

Answer: 

•  Budget  -  This  is  the  biggest  challenge  before  us  because  of  the  cuts,  reductions  and 
impact  on  staffing  issues.   We  are  challenged  to  be  more  efficient  with  staff  assignments 
and  dollars  to  implement  studies,  TMDL's,  projects,  etc...  The  regional  water  board  is 
understaffed  and  under  funded  in  many  areas. 

•  Storm  water  runoff-  This  entails  many  issues  and  also  will  be  a  challenge  to  implement 
and  enforce  and  is  very  costly. 

•  Litigation  -  This  is  always  a  critical  issue  due  to  precedent  setting  surprises  and  the 
potential  costs  that  are  difficult  to  anticipate. 

•  Water  storage  -  Very  big  issue  facing  the  state  because  our  quality  of  life  depends  on  it 
and  the  population  growth  of  the  state  is  running  ahead  of  the  available  quantity  of  water 
storage. 

•  Septic  system  policy  -  the  challenge  to  implement  a  policy  that  is  fair  and  reasonable  to 
the  discharger. 

•  Emerging  Contaminants  -  Seems  to  be  growing  at  a  rate  that  is  a  great  threat  to  health 
and  the  expense  to  resolve  this  threat  again  is  a  burden 'on  the  budget  and  the  rate  payer. 

•  Monitoring  -  Much  of  the  region's  waterways  are  not  very  accessible  by  road.  Aerial 
surveillance  becomes  a  vital  component  for  evaluating  quality  and  determining  problems. 
The  region  gets  approximately  $200,000  to  measure  permit  compliance,  identify 
ground/surface  problems  and  implement  TMDL's. 

•  Permitting  and  Enforcement  -  Keeping  up  with  the  NPDES  permit  workload  is  a 
worthwhile  accomplishment  while  on  the  other  hand  resources  fall  short  of  being  adequate 
for  reissuing  permits  and  doing  follow-up  to  determine  questionable  discharges  to  land  that 
may  affect  water  quality. 

State  and  Regional  Board  Roles 

The  issues  addressed  by  regional  water  boards  are  often  scientifically  complex.  Preparation  for 
hearings  can  be  time  consuming  for  board  members,  particularly  considering  these  are  part-time 
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t.         How  do  the  state  board  and  the  North  Coast  board  assist  you  in  understanding  and  analyzing 
complex  issues  before  your  board? 

Answer: 


State  water  board  staff  have  held  workshops  and  presentations  on  current  and  upcoming 
issues  dealing  with  complicated  content  which  has  assisted  me  many  times.  I  take  advantage 
of  these  opportunities  and  the  experts  layman  presentations  do  lend  themselves  to  better 
understanding.   This  has  allowed  me  to  break  down  the  information  for  my  analysis  which  in 
return  gives  me  a  head  start  when  the  issue  hits  the  regional  board  meeting. 

The  water  board  website  is  a  good  resource  also  which  is  kept  well  informed  and  updated. 
Both  the  state  board  and  North  coast  board  maintain  their  sites  well. 

Regional  staff  are  always  at  my  disposal  and  I  receive  periodic  e-mails  with  attachments  that 
keep  me  updated  on  current  issues.   Other  materials  (publications,  DVD's,  etc..)  from  various 
resource  entities  are  forwarded  to  me  which  also  help  with  specific  issues. 

5.         What  training  have  you  received  to  help  you  better  understand  when  you  might  have  a  conflict 
of  interest  regarding  an  issue  on  your  board's  agenda?  How  do  you  know  when  to  withdraw 
yourself  from  voting  on  an  issue? 


Answer: 


I  have  received  the  training  on  ethics  and  legal  issues  both  from  the  water  board  legal  staff 
(initial  orientation),  the  City  of  Rio  Dell  and  the  water  board's  website  interactive  course. 

The  regional  counselors  will  point  out  potential  conflict  issues  prior  to  meetings  as  necessary 
and  appropriate.   I  will  also  refer  to  them  myself  if  I  have  a  doubt  regarding  my  participation. 

I  have  received  memos  and  other  documents  given  to  me  by  counsel  regarding  conflict  of 
interest  for  my  reference. 

I  withdraw  myself  from  voting  on  an  issue  when  the  issue  involves  my  participation  in  the 
decision  making  process  or  even  if  it  appears  that  I'm  connected  to  the  process  which  would 
result  in  a  benefit  to  myself  or  to  an  entity  I  represent. 

I  can  usually  decide  or  determine  if  I  may  have  a  conflict  of  interest  and  during  those  times  I 
simply  recuse  my  self  from  discussion  and  voting. 


Public  Outreach 

This  board  covers  an  expansive  region  of  the  state,  encompassing  a  total  area  of  approximately 
19,390  square  miles,  including  340  miles  of  scenic  coastline  and  remote  wilderness  areas,  urban 
areas,  and  agricultural  land. 


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6.  How  does  your  board  assist  the  public  in  understanding  the  state  of  water  quality  in  your 
region?  Do  you  believe  that  the  information  on  your  Web  site  is  adequate? 

Answer: 

The  public  learns  or  gains  understanding  the  state  of  water  quality  initially  via  the  process  of 
the  regional  boards  Triennial  Review  process.  The  review  considers  priorities  (all  tied  to  the 
Basin  Plan)  for  planning  purposes. 

The  Review  (available  to  public  on  state  board  and  regional  board  web  sites)  explains  the 
process  by  categorizing  it's  various  components  and  contains  all  or  most  information  regarding 
the  status  of  water  quality.   I  believe  or  know  (in  my  opinion)  that  the  regional  water  board  web 
site  is  more  than  adequate  for  most  inquiring  people.   The  regional  board  site  is  also  linked  to 
the  state  board  site  as  well  as  some  others. 

Other  ways  the  board  assists  the  public  in  education  of  water  quality  status  are: 

•  Publications  -  distribution  of  materials  such  as  handouts/mailouts,  news  articles,  etc... 

•  Workshops  -  the  regional  board  holds  public  workshops  from  time  to  time  which  will  or  may 
discuss  the  state  of  water  quality  concerning  general  and  specific  bodies  of  water. 

•  Staff  presentations  -  regional  staff  travel  throughout  the  region  at  times  to  do  presentations 
regarding  water  quality  on  various  issues. 

7.  What  do  you  believe  are  the  most  effective  means  of  communication  to  inform  the  public  on 
more  immediate  water  quality  issues,  such  as  beach  closures  and  sewage  spills? 


Answer: 


I  believe  the  most  effective  means  of  informing  the  public  for  situations  mentioned  above  would 
be  handled  similar  to  that  of  emergencies  for  the  purpose  of  highlighting  the  importance  of  the 
message.   It  is  pertinent  to  distribute  information  of  this  type  in  a  quick  simple  way. 

Coordination  between  water  board,  County  Health  Department  (including  other  health 
agencies)  and  the  media  can  disburse  necessary  health  hazard  announcements  in  a  timely 
manner.  Postings,  radio  &  TV  announcements  and  other  means  of  alerting  the  public  are 
important  as  well  as  posting  needed  info  on  the  water  boards  web  site. 


Federal  Economic  Stimulus  Funds 

Governor  Schwarzenegger  has  stated  in  his  Environmental  Action  Plan  that  he  will  fully  implement 
existing  water  quality  programs,  such  as  municipal  storm  water  permit  programs  and  Total 
Maximum  Daily  Loads  (TMDLs)  programs,  which  are  required  under  the  Federal  Clean  Water  Act  to 
improve  water  quality  by  limiting  the  amount  of  pollutants  allowed  into  water  bodies. 

Currently,  regional  water  boards  lag  far  behind  their  adopted  schedules  for  cleaning  polluted  or 
impaired  waters,  and  existing  monitoring  programs  make  it  difficult  to  identify  other  waters  that  may 
be  polluted. 


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3.         What  is  the  board  doing  to  ensure  that  the  region  benefits  from  ARRA  funding? 

Answer: 

The  Governor's  web  site  provides  inquirer's  searching  for  grant  funding  information  regarding 
ARRA  funding.   The  web  page  highlighting  The  American  Recovery  &  Reinvestment  Act  of 
2009  provides  a  step  by  step  process  in  detail  outlining  it's  purpose  and  application 
procedures. 

The  North  Coast  Regional  Board  has  announced  and  educated  the  public  to  the  ARRA  grant 
funding  program  in  cooperation  with  the  state  board  at  the  regional  office.  Regional  staff  have 
made  presentations  to  various  entities  about  the  funding  and  willing  to  assist  some  agencies, 
permitees,  dischargers,  etc...  in  the  process  of  acquiring  the  grant  dollars. 

The  regional  board  web  site  (also  linked  to  Governor's  web  page)  provides  the  link  at 
www. reco very. ca . go v  which  provides  all  the  information.  The  regional  board  has  also 
conducted  workshops  on  all  funding  opportunities. 

California  State  Budget  Crisis 

9.         How  will  the  board  monitor  and  enforce  the  TMDLs  it  has  or  will  adopt? 

Answer: 

Funds  for  monitoring  are  critically  lacking  and  state  funds  are  not  sufficient  to  adequately 
monitor  watersheds  following  TMDL  development   Staff  find  it  difficult  to  establish  clear 
benchmarks  and  trends  in  order  to  prescribe  necessary  management  from  monitoring  data. 

Consistency  in  the  use  of  monitoring  techniques  is  necessary  to  provide  dependable  data  in 
developing  effective  prescriptions  hopefully  resulting  in  good  water  quality. 

Landowners  are  required  to  do  monitoring  in  TMDL  watersheds  as  part  of  TMDL 
Implementation  Plans.   This  monitoring  tends  to  be  project  specific  and  does  not  provide  for 
the  big  picture. 

TMDL  enforcement  is  done  through  the  regional  board  regulatory  authorities  and  also  by 
specific  regulatory  mechanisms  provided  in  TMDL  Action  Plans.  Again,  monitoring  and 
enforcement  of  approved  TMDL's  in  Region  1  is  limited  by  current  funding. 

Enforcement  of  Water  Quality  Laws 

Several  years  ago,  the  Office  of  the  Secretary  of  Cal-EPA  reported  to  the  Legislature  on 
environmental  enforcement  and  suggested  that  the  state  and  regional  water  boards  were  among  the 
worst  agencies  in  enforcing  the  law.  The  report  stated  that  the  boards  were  very  slow  to  enforce 
clean  water  laws,  almost  never  sought  criminal  penalties  for  serious  violations,  and  generally  did  not 
aggressively  pursue  violators. 


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10.  What  enforcement  options  do  you  believe  provide  the  most  effective  tools  for  violations  of 
board  orders? 

Answer: 

Regarding  enforcement,  the  region  established  an  enforcement  unit  which  has  a  very  active 
enforcement  program.   The  region  enforcement  unit  works  closely  with  local  District  Attorneys 
as  well  as  other  state  and  federal  agencies  including  CalEPA. 

The  board  has  a  range  of  enforcement  options: 

•  Notices  of  violation 

•  Administrative  Civil  Liability  fines 

•  Criminal  charges 

•  Compliance  projects 

Fines  play  a  vital  role  in  our  enforcement  program.  Fining  violators  punishes  the  responsible 
party  and  provides  deterrence.  Fines  are  usually  less  appropriate  when  new  programs  are 
implemented  and  the  regulated  community  is  working  to  comply. 

Whenever  possible  and  appropriate  I  prefer  compliance  projects  as  the  most  desired  option 
and  effective  tool  used  to  enforce  board  orders.   They  provide  a  more  positive  avenue  for 
violators  and  is  a  good  direct  method  of  resolving  the  problem.   This  type  enforcement  I 
believe  encourages  proactive  participation  in  the  development  of  water  quality. 

The  board  and  its  staff  uses  all  of  these  options  and  applies  what  is  appropriate.   With  the 
exception  of  Mandatory  Minimum  Penalties,  staff  generally  use  a  progressive  approach  that  is 
consistent  with  the  SWRCB's  enforcement  policy. 

1 1.  What  staff  is  available  to  assist  you  in  enforcing  water  quality  laws?  Is  the  number  of  staff 
adequate  for  enforcement  purposes?  If  you  must  prioritize  enforcement  efforts,  what  are  the 
priorities  and  how  are  they  determined? 

Answer: 

The  regional  board  has  an  Enforcement  Unit  consisting  of  a  Prosecution  Team  including 
regional  counsel/state  board  counsel  and  maybe  another  staffer).  An  Advisor  Team  may 
consist  of  another  regional  counsel  and  the  regional  EO. 

The  number  of  staff  adequate  for  our  purposes  depends  on  the  issue  (category),  the 
complexity  as  well  as  a  number  of  other  factors  which  would  identify  priorities.   Overall  I 
believe  our  regional  enforcement  unit  has  cleaned  up  a  back  log  of  Minimal  Penalties  (pnority 
#1)  and  addressing  other  categories  (brownfields,  non-point  source,  etc.). 

Harmful  Algae  Blooms  and  Klamath  River  Total  Maximum  Daily  Loads 

Blue-green  algae  blooms  have  been  found  in  the  Klamath  River,  Big  Lagoon,  and  the  Eel  River.  A 
study  by  the  Center  for  Integrated  Marine  Technologies  (CIMT)  points  out  that  these  blooms 
negatively  affect  fish,  marine  mammals,  and  seabirds.  Some  algae  species  cause  large  fish  kills  by 
clogging  up  or  lacerating  the  fish's  gills. 

The  CIMT  report  said  that  there  is  growing  evidence  that  human  contributions  of  phosphorus  and 
nitrogen  are  causing  the  blooms  to  occur  more  frequently  and  contributing  to  their  duration  and 

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severity.  A  presentation  to  your  board  on  December  1 1  discussed  the  total  maximum  daily  load 
TMDL)  process  for  the  Klamath  River.  Staff  said  that  76  to  80  percent  of  the  phosphorus  and 
nitrogen  would  have  to  be  eliminated  in  the  river  to  achieve  TMDL  compliance.  Staff  also  indicated 
hat  the  TMDL  would  not  directly  deal  with  blue-green  algae. 

12.  How  serious  are  the  negative  effects  of  algae  blooms  on  fisheries  and  marine  mammals?  How 
does  your  board  currently  determine  the  seriousness  of  those  effects? 

Answer:, 

Fisheries  and  marine  mammals  are  threatened  to  various  degrees  depending  on  the  water 
body,  environment,  habitat,  species,  location  and  other  factors  such  as  temperature,  nutrients, 
etc... 

Our  region  is  focused  on  such  an  issue.    That  issue  exists  on  the  Klamath  River  and  comes 
with  complexity  as  the  Klamath  River  flows  from  Oregon  into  California.   This  involves  the  state 
boards  participation  as  well  as  Tribal  influence  and  other  various  federal  and  state  agencies. 

It's  the  nutrients  in  the  water  that  provides  for  the  growing  of  the  algae  and  the  TMDL  needs  to 
deal  with  the  nutrients  to  establish  compliance. 

In  determining  seriousness  of  effects,  the  water  body  and  it's  factors  determine  if  there  is  an 
impairment  to  beneficial  uses  and  what  the  impairment  is  and  the  other  factors  that  would 
initiate  a  TMDL.   Regional  staff  have  presented  all  information  they  have  aquired  to  the  board 
and  made  available  to  the  public. 

13.  How  is  the  adoption  of  the  Klamath  River  TMDLs  integral,  if  at  all,  to  the  broader  discussion  of 
poor  water  quality  and  dam  removal  on  the  river? 

Answer: 

Findings  or  evidence  that  the  Klamath  River  is  impaired  (blue-green  algae)  has  been 
forwarded  to  the  board  (submitted  by  various  entities)  which  staff  has  been  analyzing.  Fairly 
recently  the  regional  board  passed  a  resolution  (Resolution  2007-0028)  regarding  a  Waste 
Discharge  Requirement  to  deal  with  the  issue. 

The  TMDL  will  identify  and  define  the  problems  regarding  the  Klamath  River  and  what  it  will 
take  to  neutralize  the  impairment.   The  dams  on  the  river  are  accused  as  the  culprits  creating 
the  ideal  habitat  for  the  birth  of  algae  blooms.   It's  the  theory  that  removing  the  dams  will 
increase  the  flow  and  in  that  process  the  habitat  for  the  algae  will  be  removed. 

The  board  realizes  that  the  water  body  is  impaired  and  that  there  is  evidence  of  negative 
impact  to  the  beneficial  uses  of  the  river  and  documented  cases  of  health  issues.   There  are 
many  issues  to  be  resolved  by  many  interested  and  invested  parties  which  have  been  working 
cooperatively  (for  the  most  part)  and  working  toward  progress. 

Emerging  Contaminants 

New  and  emerging  contaminants  may  be  present,  but  not  detected.  Among  these  are 
pharmaceuticals  and  personal  care  products,  industrial  chemicals  present  at  low  concentrations,  and 
chemicals  that  may  affect  the  hormone  system,  referred  to  as  "endocrine  disruptors". 

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Additionally,  new  testing  by  independent  organizations  has  turned  up  pharmaceuticals  and 
over-the-counter  medicines  affecting  drinking  water  supplies  across  the  country.  While  the  findings 
reported  by  the  Associated  Press  in  March  2008  involve  miniscule  amounts  of  various 
pharmaceuticals,  concerns  over  long-term  consequences  to  human  health  and  possible  additional 
testing  have  resurfaced. 

Under  current  law,  required  testing  and  standard  limits  for  pharmaceuticals  and 
over-the-counter  drugs  in  drinking  water  are  minimal.   Beginning  in  January  2008,  several  water 
systems  began  monitoring  under  the  U.S.  Environmental  Protection  Agency  (US  EPA)  Unregulated 
Contaminant  Monitoring  Regulation  for  contaminants  selected  from  the  contaminant  candidate  lists. 
These  are  potential  contaminants  that  U.S.  EPA  may  regulate  in  the  future.   Federal  and  state  laws 
give  authority  to  U.S. EPA,  the  California  Department  of  Public  Health,  or  the  regional  water  boards  to 
regulate  contaminants,  which  could  include  pharmaceuticals. 

The  Department  of  Public  Health  has  developed  draft  regulations  and  is  proposing  to  require  an 
analysis  of  specific  unregulated  chemicals  and  report  detections  for  certain  groundwater  recharge 
and  reuse  projects.  These  chemicals  include  pharmaceuticals,  endocrine  disruptors,  and  other 
wastewater  indicator  chemicals. 

14.       To  what  degree  should  the  state  water  board,  regional  boards,  and  the  California  Department 
of  Public  Health  coordinate  with  one  another  to  mandate  testing  and  set  safety  limits  for  drugs 
in  drinking  water?     Do  you  believe  this  is  an  issue  that  should  be  dealt  with  on  a 
region-by-region  basis? 


Answer: 


In  this  case  I  believe  the  lead  agency  should  be  at  the  state  level.  At  this  point  this  issue 
needs  to  be  developed  from  higher  levels  due  to  the  fact  that  we  are  in  the  beginning  stages  of 
identifying  particulates  and  deciding  what  is  to  be  regulated  or  not. 

As  we  move  along  coordination  between  agencies  should  become  a  high  phority  in  the 
development  of  policy  regarding  this  issue.   It  is  important  to  the  big  picture  to  compare 
information  and  data  amongst  the  water  boards  and  Department  of  Health.   This  will  provide 
consistency  statewide  while  specifics  can  be  identified  with  the  uniqueness  of  each  region. 

This  is  becoming  an  issue  of  high  concern  for  many  areas  and  people  especially  in  aghcultural 
and  dairy  communities.  Livelihoods  in  this  industry  are  dependant  on  the  quality  of  water  as 
the  liability  rest  on  the  shoulders  of  their  product  not  to  mention  the  health  hsks  to  animals  and 
themselves. 


The  majority  of  policy  should  be  dealt  with  on  a  region-by-region  basis  (as  most  other  issues) 
but  not  without  coordination  with  the  state  board  and  Health  Department  in  order  to  provide 
fairness  and  consistency. 

There  is  some  ongoing  work  dealing  with  contaminants  by  various  groups  and  some  cities 
have  drug  collection  programs  that  I  feel  will  catch  on  as  we  move  forward  with  another  big 
challenge. 


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[5.       Is  your  board  monitoring  these  and  other  emerging  contaminants?  How  are  you  informed  of 
new  sources  of  pollution? 


\nswer: 


The  short  answer  is  no  but  there  has  been  work  done  on  the  issue.   The  true  question  asks  "Is 
there  a  real  problem?  There  was  a  study  done  cooperatively  between  EPA,  Region  1  and 
Region  2  referred  to  as  "One  Step  Beyond"  which  is  available  on  the  boards  web  sites. 

SWAMP  is  another  organization  which  has  a  monitoring  program  which  is  available  on  the  web 
sites  including  their  own.    These  studies,  in  an  effort  to  decide  what  to  test  for,  identify  and 
analyze  particulates  then  evaluate  the  possible  effects  of  those  contaminants. 

Results  of  studies  come  to  the  board  in  where  we  receive  updates  which  are  presented  to  the 
board  at  meetings.  The  public  also  gets  an  opportunity  to  get  informed  at  these  meeting  and 
have  their  input  recognized.  Updated  information  is  also  available  on  the  web  sites. 


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Senate  Rules  Committee 
.JUH  i  0  2003 
May  20,  2009  Apptimtmeate 


Geoffrey  M.  Hales 

WQCB,  North  Coast  Region 

Responses 


Statement  of  Goals 

1.  What  have  been  your  most  significant  accomplishments  as  a  member  of  the  North  Coast 
Regional  Water  Quality  Control  Board? 

Four  accomplishments  come  to  mind: 

(1)  Building  existing,  and  establishing  new  relationships  with  landowners  and  land 
managers  in  my  region,  (including  industrial  land  managers,  private  landowners,  and 
tribal  representatives),  and  having  the  opportunity  to  meet  with  them,  hear  issues,  and 
bring  issues  to  staff  for  clarification  and/or  additional  discussion 

(2)  Providing  technical  representation  to  my  Board  on  scientific  water  quality  issues  that 
other  Board  Members  are  unfamiliar  with,  as  well  as  working  with  staff  to  provide 
technical  review  and  prepare  comment  for  some  of  the  more  significant  issues  in  our 
region.  Some  of  these  significant  issues  include  Basin  Plan  Amendments  for  sediment 
and  dissolved  oxygen,  and  review  of  water  quality  modeling  to  support  Klamath  River 
TMDL  development. 

(3)  Initiating  direction  to  our  E.O.  for  pursuing  involvement  with  the  Klamath  River  FERC 
relicensing  Settlement  Agreement  process.  Until  this  direction  was  given,  our  board  was 
excluded  from  Settlement  Agreement  discussions  and  could  not  collaborate  with 
Settlement  parties  while  working  on  extremely  relevant  Klamath  River  water  quality 
science  and  policy.  This  direction  was  supported  by  my  Board  and  has  resulted  in  our 
Region's  active  participation  in  the  settlement  agreement  process. 

(4)  Being  elected  Vice  Chairman  in  2008  and  again  in  2009.  I  am  honored  to  represent  the 
Board  in  this  position. 

2.  What  do  you  hope  to  accomplish  during  your  current  tenure  as  a  member  of  the  board? 
What  goals  do  you  have  for  the  board,  and  how  will  you  accomplish  them?  How  will  you 
measure  your  success? 

In  January  2008  I  established  the  following  goals: 

(1)  To  represent  and  act  on  behalf  of  all  the  people  in  my  region. 

(2)  To  make  fair  and  balanced  decisions  based  on  science  and  evidence.  My  professional 

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background  is  in  water  resources  science,  and  I  usually  have  a  strong  technical 
understanding  of  the  issues  presented  to  the  Board  which  helps  guide  me  in  my 
decision  making. 

(3)  To  be  involved  with  Staff  where  my  expertise  can  contribute,  such  as  technical  planning 
or  policy  development. 

(4)  To  increase  my  awareness  of  regional  (and  state)  threats  to  water  quality. 

(5)  To  recognize  conflicts  of  interest  and  act  accordingly. 

I  am  confident  that  I  have  either  met,  or  am  making  continued  progress  toward  meeting  these 
goals. 

As  for  my  Board,  I  have  the  following  goals: 

(1)  To  be  actively  engaged  with  Staff  so  ourTMDL  schedule  can  be  completed  (e.g., 
Klamath  River,  Elk  River). 

(2)  To  adhere  to  the  priority  list  established  in  our  most  recent  Triennial  Review. 

(3)  To  identify  where  permitting  requirements  and  specifications  can  be  streamlined  and 
integrated  with  similar  requirements  by  other  agencies  (e.g.,  CDFG,  Cal  Fire)  to  reduce 
redundancies,  effort,  and  cost  to  both  the  Board  and  to  the  landowner. 

I  measure  my  success  based  on  my  interactions  with,  and  feedback  I  receive,  from  my  fellow 
Board  members,  from  Staff,  and  from  the  public  or  other  entity  that  comes  before  the  Board. 
The  feedback  I  have  received  during  my  current  tenure  has  been  very  positive,  which  is 
satisfying,  encouraging,  and  motivating;  to  me,  this  directly  translates  to  success. 

3.       What  do  you  believe  are  the  most  critical  issues  currently  facing  the  board? 

Clearly  the  most  serious  issue  facing  my  Board  is  the  State  budget  crisis.  Staff  is  working 
reduced  hours,  layoffs  have  been  discussed  (but  to  the  best  of  my  knowledge  have  not 
occurred),  and  to  some  degree  I  expect  that  overall  morale  has  been  reduced.  My  Board  works 
to  help  establish  protocols  and  procedures,  but  budget  cuts  reduce  the  effectiveness  of 
implementing  programs  and  enforcing  water  quality  laws.  If  the  budget  is  not  amended,  the 
situation  can  only  go  from  bad  to  worse. 

Other  critical  issues  facing  my  Board  include  ourTMDL  adoption  schedule,  e.g.,  Klamath  River 
TMDL  development  and  integration  with  Oregon  DEQ,  and  Agreement-in  Principle  (AIP) 
negotiations  with  PacifiCorp  and  the  Settlement  parties. 

In  2008,  I  reported  that  one  of  the  most  serious  problems  facing  our  Regional  Board  is  having 
Staff  located  in  Santa  Rosa,  given  our  Region's  geographic  vastness  and  diversity.  Some  of 
the  related  complaints  cited  by  Staff  include  enforcement  ineffectiveness  and  poor 
representation.  Our  Board  and  Staff  had  discussed  the  feasibility  and  challenges  of 
establishing  branch  offices  in  Eureka  and  Yreka,  but  the  cost-effectiveness  was  questioned. 
Given  the  current  State  budget  situation,  pursuit  of  this  issue  has  been  suspended. 

State  and  Regional  Board  Roles 

The  issues  addressed  by  regional  water  boards  are  often  scientifically  complex.  Preparation 
for  hearings  can  be  time-consuming  for  board  members,  particularly  considering  these  are 
part-time  positions. 


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4.  How  do  the  state  board  and  the  North  Coast  board  assist  you  in  understanding  and 
analyzing  complex  issues  before  your  board? 

Regional  Board  Staff  have  been  very  helpful,  and  are  always  willing  and  enthusiastic  to  have 
discussions  to  help  improve  my  understanding  certain  issues.  Regional  Board  Staff  also 
provide  frequent  briefings  on  developing  issues,  which  provides  a  forum  for  technical 
discussion  and  allows  me  to  provide  feedback.  I  also  do  my  best  to  review  and  understand  the 
issues  being  brought  before  the  Board  in  advance  of  the  Board  meetings,  and  frequently 
engage  staff  in  technical  discussions  to  improve  my  understanding  of  technical  or  policy 
details.  In  addition  to  discussions  with  Staff,  I  frequently  consult  the  Basin  Plan  to  frame  the 
context  (and  relevance)  of  my  questions. 

State  Board  assistance  for  my  understanding  comes  primarily  from  the  WQCC  workshops, 
where  linkages  between  regional  issues  and  state-wide  goals  are  explained. 

5.  What  training  have  you  received  to  help  you  better  understand  when  you  might  have  a 
conflict  of  interest  regarding  an  issue  on  your  board's  agenda?  How  do  you  know  when  to 
withdraw  yourself  from  voting  on  an  issue? 

Given  my  profession  as  a  consulting  geologist  specializing  in  river  ecosystems  and  related 
surface  water  issues,  I  am  extremely  cautious  about  issues  coming  before  my  Board  that  I 
have  specific  knowledge  about  (potential  bias)  or  I  have  some  professional  association  with 
the  project  that  could  be  viewed  as  a  conflict.  When  this  happens,  I  contact  my  E.O.  for 
technical  background  details,  and  then  I  contact  counsel  to  review  the  details  of  the  issue  to 
help  determine  whether  a  conflict  exists.  Similarly,  when  I  have  the  opportunity  to  participate  in 
a  new  project  professionally,  I  often  check  to  be  sure  there  are  no  ongoing  issues  with  the 
Board  that  could  make  my  involvement  considered  a  conflict  of  interest.  Professionally,  I  will 
exclude  myself  from  projects  and  from  discussions  if  I  feel  the  potential  for  a  conflict  exists.  I 
try  to  be  acutely  aware  of  potential  conflicts,  and  so  far  I  have  not  had  to  withdraw  myself  from 
voting  on  an  issue. 

My  training  to  recognize  a  conflict  includes:  (1)  introductory  training  from  Phil  Wyels  following 
my  initial  appointment  in  2007;  (2)  a  training  workshop  and  related  discussion  at  the  fall  2008 
WQCC  meeting;  (3)  discussions  with  fellow  board  member  David  Noren  who  is  also  a 
consultant  in  the  environmental  sciences;  (4)  frequent  discussions  with  staff  counsel;  and,  (5) 
completing  the  required  ethics  training  following  my  initial  appointment  in  2007. 

Public  Outreach 

This  board  covers  an  expansive  region  of  the  state,  encompassing  a  total  area  of 
approximately  19,390  square  miles,  including  340  miles  of  scenic  coastline  and  remote 
wilderness  areas,  urban  areas,  and  agricultural  land. 

6.  How  does  your  board  assist  the  public  in  understanding  the  state  of  water  quality  in  your 
region?  Do  you  believe  that  the  information  on  your  Web  site  is  adequate? 

One  of  the  most  common  and  effective  ways  my  board  assists  the  public  in  understanding  the 
state  of  water  quality  in  my  region  is  via  public  outreach  and  scoping  meetings  provided  by 
staff.  Staff  is  constantly  traveling  throughout  our  region  to  provide  public  workshops  on  issues 
currently  affecting  water  quality.  For  example,  workshops  (and  Board  Member  briefings)  on  the 
Federal  and  Non-Federal  Timber  Waiver  were  recently  held  public  workshops  in  Fortuna  on 
March  24,  2009  and  in  Yreka  on  April  8,  2009.  Although  these  workshops  were  focused  on  the 


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timber  waiver,  discussion  included  many  aspects  of  water  quality  impacts,  from  sources  to 
solutions.  Similar  identification  of  issues  and  discussion  of  impairments  occurred  during  the  Elk 
River  TMDL  CEQA  scoping  meeting  in  Eureka  on  May  20,  2009. 1  believe  these  meetings  are 
very  effective  means  of  public  outreach,  and  give  staff  the  opportunity  to  engage  the  public  and 
help  explain  both  impairments  (problems)  and  solutions. 

As  for  our  website,  I  do  think  the  information  it  contains  is  adequate.  There  is  always  room  for 
improvement,  but  the  site  appears  to  be  updated  frequently,  contains  information  on  current 
issues,  and  provides  useful  links  to  related  information.  In  addition,  at  the  July  3,  2009  board 
meeting,  Mr.  Ric  Costales  of  Siskiyou  County  complemented  staff  for  a  well  developed  and 
informative  website  listing  for  the  2008  Staff  Integrated  Report  on  the  305(b)  and  303(d)  listing. 
This  direct  public  feedback  supports  my  opinion. 

7.  What  do  you  believe  are  the  most  effective  means  of  communication  to  inform  the  public 
on  more  immediate  water  quality  issues,  such  as  beach  closures  and  sewage  spills? 

As  I  understand  the  process,  the  State  Office  of  Emergency  Services  (OES)  is  the  primary 
respondent  when  spills  that  present  threats  to  public  health  and  safety  are  reported.  As 
appropriate,  OES  will  contact  Regional  Board  Staff  who  will  respond  accordingly.  Staff  has 
informed  me  that  all  our  sewage  districts,  cities  and  counties  are  well  aware  of  the  OES 
procedures,  and  most  know  who  the  primary  regional  board  staff  contact  is.  For  severe  cases 
where  potential  impacts  to  water  quality  and  public  health  are  imminent,  my  E.O.  and  Assistant 
E.O.  are  also  contacted  and  engage  in  whatever  public  notifications  are  necessary. 

As  an  example,  this  line  of  communication  was  performed  in  November  2007  when  a  diesel 
spill  in  Freshwater  Creek  (Humboldt  County)  occurred  and  presented  an  immediate  threat  to 
downstream  residents.  Our  board  received  testimony  from  participating  public  safety  agencies 
citing  the  effectiveness  and  success  of  this  process. 

Other  effective  means  of  communication  include  public  service  announcements  (PSA)  radio 
broadcasts,  television  news  reports,  notices  on  our  Board  website,  and  postings  at  the  affected 
waterbody.  Our  Board  has  been  involved  with  supporting  decisions  for  posting  for  Blue  Green 
Algae  at  Klamath  River  reservoirs. 

Federal  Economic  Stimulus  Funds 

On  February  17,  2009,  President  Obama  signed  HR  1,  the  American  Recovery  and 
Reinvestment  Act  of  2009  (ARRA),  which  provides  $787  billion  in  economic  investment 
nationally.  The  goals  of  ARRA  are  to  jump-start  the  economy  and  create  jobs  for  Americans  in 
an  accountable,  transparent  manner.  California  is  the  beneficiary  of  approximately  $50  billion 
for  a  variety  of  statewide  programs.  A  portion  of  funds  are  targeted  for  environmental  issues, 
including  over  $283  billion  to  California's  Clean  Water  State  Revolving  Fund  for  loans  and 
grants  for  wastewater  treatment  systems,  nonpoint  source  implementation,  and  estuary 
enhancement. 

8.  What  is  the  board  doing  to  ensure  that  the  region  benefits  from  ARRA  funding? 

Staff  is  currently  facilitating  communication  with  grantees  that  have  projects  that  coincide  with 
board  priorities.  To  do  this,  staff  is  working  with  grantees,  primarily  in  our  TMDL  watersheds 
(e.g.,  Scott  River,  Shasta  River)  to  help  them  prepare  for  projects  that  are  "shovel-ready".  For 
these  priority  projects,  staff  is  primarily  working  with  RCDs  based  on  our  established  working 
relationships  and  their  understanding  of  the  procedures  needed  to  be  ready  should  ARRA 


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funding  come  through  for  the  project.  Other  entities  staff  is  working  with  include  small  systems 
community  service  districts  (CSDs)  with  needs  that  have  already  been  identified  and  also  have 
shovel-ready  projects  that  require  funding. 

California  State  Budget  Crisis 

California's  dire  fiscal  situation  has  affected  all  parts  of  state  government. 

9.  How  do  you,  as  a  board  member,  stay  informed  of  the  fiscal  resources  available  to  your 
board?  How  does  your  board  prioritize  activities  if  not  all  can  be  undertaken?  What  are 
your  priorities? 

I  stay  informed  of  fiscal  resources  available  to  my  Board  primarily  via  weekly  updates  and 
discussions  with  my  E.O.  If  all  activities  on  my  Board's  agenda  cannot  be  undertaken,  our 
Board  prioritizes  activities  by  considering  timelines  and  dependencies  (e.g.,  Klamath  River 
TMDL),  severity  or  threats  to  public  health  and  safety,  and  resource  availability  (staff  and 
budget). 

My  priorities  include  the  following: 

(1)  Meeting  TMDL  schedules. 

(2)  Streamlining  permitting  and  reporting  requirements  to  help  minimize  redundancy 
between  agencies. 

(3)  Completing  Basin  Plan  amendments  (sediment  amendment,  dissolved  oxygen 
objective). 

Enforcement  of  Water  Quality  Laws 

Several  years  ago,  the  Office  of  the  Secretary  of  Cal/EPA  reported  to  the  Legislature  on 
environmental  enforcement  and  suggested  that  the  state  and  regional  water  boards  were 
among  the  worst  agencies  in  enforcing  the  law.  The  report  stated  that  the  boards  were  very 
slow  to  enforce  clean  water  laws,  almost  never  sought  criminal  penalties  for  serious  violations, 
and  generally  did  not  aggressively  pursue  violators. 

10.  What  enforcement  options  do  you  believe  provide  the  most  effective  tools  for  violations  of 
board  orders? 

The  Board  has  a  variety  of  enforcement  options  it  can  exercise,  including: 

•  Investigation  Orders 

•  Cleanup  and  Abatement  Orders 

•  Cease  and  Desist  Orders 

•  Notices  of  Violation 

•  Administrative  Civil  Liabilities 

•  Mandatory  Minimum  Penalties 

•  Pursuing  civil  or  criminal  charges 

Of  these,  the  most  effective  tools  are  probably:  (1)  issuing  Notices  of  Violation,  (2)  assessing 
Administrative  Civil  Liability  fines,  and,  (3)  pursuing  civil  or  criminal  charges. 

Our  region  has  an  active  enforcement  unit  which  was  established  in  response  to  lack  of 
enforcement  criticism.  In  addition,  over  the  last  year,  staff  has  caught  up  with  the  Mandatory 
Minimum  Penalty  (MMP)  backlog  and  has  remained  caught  up.  Staff  is  also  working  to  review 

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the  backlog  of  in-place  Cleanup  and  Abatement  Orders  (CAOs)  to  either  close  out  orders  that 
have  been  completed  and  prioritize  open  orders  requiring  action. 

11.    What  staff  is  available  to  assist  you  in  enforcing  water  quality  laws?  Is  the  number  of  staff 
adequate  for  enforcement  purposes?  If  you  must  prioritize  enforcement  efforts,  what  are 
the  priorities  and  how  are  they  determined? 

I  believe  all  staff  are  available  to  assist  me  in  enforcing  water  quality  laws.  I  have  never  had  a 
problem  with  the  willingness  or  availability  of  staff  to  help  when  I  have  questions  or  seek 
clarification  on  a  particular  issue.  As  for  the  adequacy  of  staff  availability  for  enforcement 
purposes,  I  would  say  we  are  understaffed  and  the  current  number  of  staff  available  for 
enforcement  is  inadequate.  As  a  result,  enforcement  actions  are  often  complaint-driven  rather 
than  inspection-driven.  If  I  must  prioritize  enforcement  efforts,  my  considerations  would  include 
the  severity  of  the  action,  the  threat  to  public  health  and  safety,  and  the  significance  of  the 
water  quality  violation. 


Harmful  Algal  Blooms  and  Klamath  River  Total  Maximum  Daily  Loads 


Blue-green  algae  blooms  have  been  found  in  the  Klamath  River,  Big  Lagoon,  and  the  Eel 
River.  A  study  by  the  Center  for  Integrated  Marine  Technologies  (CIMT)  points  out  that  these 
blooms  negatively  affect  fish,  marine  mammals,  and  seabirds.  Some  algal  species  cause  large 
fish  kills  by  clogging  up  or  lacerating  the  fish's  gills. 

The  CIMT  report  said  that  there  is  growing  evidence  that  human  contributions  of  phosphorus 
and  nitrogen  are  causing  the  blooms  to  occur  more  frequently  and  contributing  to  their  duration 
and  severity.  A  presentation  to  your  board  on  December  1 1  discussed  the  total  maximum  daily 
load  (TMDL)  process  for  the  Klamath  River.  Staff  said  that  76  to  80  percent  of  the  phosphorus 
and  nitrogen  would  have  to  be  eliminated  in  the  river  to  achieve  TMDL  compliance.  Staff  also 
indicated  that  the  TMDL  would  not  directly  deal  with  blue-green  algae  (actually,  Staff  is 
currently  developing  a  TMDL  for  microcystin  in  the  Klamath  River  reservoirs  with  specific 
numeric  targets). 

12.    How  serious  are  the  negative  effects  of  algal  blooms  on  fisheries  and  marine  mammals? 
How  does  your  board  currently  determine  the  seriousness  of  those  effects? 

I  have  not  had  the  opportunity  to  obtain  and  review  the  CMIT  report,  but  I  certainly  do  not 
dispute  the  finding  that  Blue-green  algae  (BGA)  blooms  negatively  affect  fish,  marine 
mammals,  and  seabirds.  I  assume  the  BGA  blooms  the  CMIT  report  studied  contain 
microcystin,  which  is  a  hepatoxin  (i.e.,  it  affects  the  liver  by  physically  disrupting  cells  and 
causing  liver  dysfunction),  so  I  am  not  surprised  that  a  linkage  has  been  established  between 
BGA  and  the  animals  that  have  habitats  where  blooms  occur.  In  addition  to  known  effects  on 
fisheries,  marine  mammals,  and  seabirds,  there  is  also  strong  evidence  microcystin  has 
harmful  effects  on  dogs.  In  2006,  the  Humboldt  County  Department  of  Health  and  Human 
Services  issued  a  fact  sheet  for  animal  health  workers  and  interested  parties  citing  9  dog 
deaths  since  1991  following  contact  with  water  bodies  in  Humboldt  and  Mendocino  counties 
(Big  Lagoon  and  South  Fork  Eel  River)  that  strongly  suggests  BGA  poisoning.  These  findings 
are  all  in  addition  to  the  suspected  harmful  effects  on  humans. 

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the  Klamath  River  reservoirs,  these  conditions  are  controllable  and  can  be  managed.  In  other 
systems,  such  as  Big  Lagoon,  these  conditions  cannot  be  controlled  (Big  Lagoon  can  become 
hypereutrophic  when  the  lagoon  does  not  breach  and  nutrient  concentration  is  extremely  high). 
Controllable  environments  where  BGA  blooms  occur  should  be  recognized  so  contributing 
factors  (i.e.,  nutrient  loading)  can  be  managed,  such  as  the  microcystin  TMDL  currently  being 
developed  for  the  Klamath  River  reservoirs.  Uncontrollable  environments  where  BGA  blooms 
occur  should  be  monitored  and  the  public  notified  as  appropriate  when  blooms  or  suspected 
conditions  are  present  that  pose  a  health  risk.  In  all  cases,  the  public  should  be  notified  when 
BGA  blooms  occur  and  the  potential  health  risks  posted. 

Based  on  the  above  information  and  the  water  bodies  in  our  region  that  are  known  to  have 
BGA  blooms,  I  believe  it  is  essential  for  our  Board  to  remain  diligent  in  our  awareness  of  BGA 
and  consider  these  blooms  to  pose  a  potentially  serious  threat  to  human  and  animal  health. 
Our  Board  relies  largely  on  staff  and  regional  technical  expertise  to  determine  the  magnitude 
and  severity  of  BGA  blooms.  Because  of  this,  our  Board  must  remain  aware  of  developing 
science  to  help  increase  our  knowledge  of  BGA  (e.g.,  environmental  conditions  and  health 
effects)  so  we  can  adapt  our  actions  as  appropriate. 

13.    How  is  the  adoption  of  the  Klamath  River  TMDLs  integral,  if  at  all,  to  the  broader 
discussion  of  poor  water  quality  and  dam  removal  on  the  river? 

The  TMDL  is  directly  related,  integral,  and  essential  to  improving  water  quality  on  the  Klamath 
River.  Beneficial  uses  must  be  met  to  meet  our  water  quality  objectives.  Currently,  water 
quality  standards  (numeric  and  narrative)  are  not  being  met,  and  certain  management  actions 
are  necessary  to  improve  these  degraded  conditions.  Improving  streamflow  management  on 
the  Klamath  River  is  essential  to  improving  water  quality;  this  car  be  achieved  by:  (1)  removing 
the  dams  to  help  restore  unregulated  flow  conditions,  or  (2)  keeping  the  dams  and  better 
managing  downstream  flow  releases  to  mimic  natural  streamflow  hydrograph  components. 
Removing  the  dams  and  restoring  unregulated  streamflow  can  improve  sediment  dynamics, 
improve  water  temperatures,  and  restore  access  to  upstream  anadromous  fish  habitat  (i.e.,. 
positive  biological  responses  to  expected  physical  changes).  If  the  dams  remain,  improved 
streamflow  management  has  the  potential  to  improve  water  temperatures,  but  could  require 
coarse  sediment  management  to  help  replenish  in-channel  storage  and  supply  and  would  not 
improve  anadromous  fish  access.  Both  a  "dams  in"  and  a  "dams  out"  scenario  are  currently 
being  evaluated  by  staff  given  the  uncertainty  of  whether  the  Settlement  Agreement  will 
commit  PacifiCorp  to  dam  removal  or  not.  Regardless  of  the  outcome,  a  TMDL  and 
implementation  plan  will  be  developed  that  is  designed  to  meet  load  allocations  which 
represent  attainment  of  water  quality  standards  and  satisfying  basin  plan  objectives. 

The  TMDL  and  its  implementation  plan  represent  a  bi-state  analysis  and  approach  with 
Oregon,  and  it  is  my  understanding  that  a  Memorandum  of  Agreement  for  TMDL 
implementation  is  expected  to  be  signed  sometime  this  month  (June);  this  represents  a 
significant  cooperation  between  our  states.  Moreover,  it  is  my  understanding  that  the  TMDL  is 
the  only  document  in  the  basin  aimed  specifically  at  water  quality.  By  not  adopting  the  TMDL  it 
is  unclear  how  water  quality  standards  and  basin  plan  objectives  will  (or  can)  be  met,  let  alone 
enforced. 


Emerging  Contaminants 

New  and  emerging  contaminants  may  be  present,  but  not  detected.  Among  these  are 
pharmaceuticals  and  personal  care  products,  industrial  chemicals  present  at  low 


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concentrations,  and  chemicals  that  may  affect  the  hormone  system,  referred  to  as  "endocrine 
disruptors." 

Additionally,  new  testing  by  independent  organizations  has  turned  up  pharmaceuticals  and 
over-the-counter  medicines  affecting  drinking  water  supplies  across  the  country.  While  the 
findings  reported  by  the  Associated  Press  in  March  2008  involve  miniscule  amounts  of  various 
pharmaceuticals,  concerns  over  long-term  consequences  to  human  health  and  possible 
additional  testing  have  resurfaced. 

Under  current  law,  required  testing  and  standard  limits  for  pharmaceuticals  and 
over-the-counter  drugs  in  drinking  water  are  minimal.  Beginning  in  January  2008,  several 

water  systems  began  monitoring  under  the  U.S.  Environmental  Protection  Agency  (U.S.  EPA) 
Unregulated  Contaminant  Monitoring  Regulation  for  contaminants  selected  from  the 
contaminant  candidate  lists.  These  are  potential  contaminants  that  U.S.  EPA  may  regulate  in 
the  future.  Federal  and  state  laws  give  authority  to  U.S.  EPA,  the  California  Department  of 
Public  Health,  or  the  regional  water  boards  to  regulate  contaminants,  which  could  include 
pharmaceuticals. 

The  Department  of  Public  Health  has  developed  draft  regulations  and  is  proposing  to  require 
an  analysis  of  specific  unregulated  chemicals  and  report  detections  for  certain  groundwater 
recharge  and  reuse  projects.  These  chemicals  include  pharmaceuticals,  endocrine  disruptors, 
and  other  wastewater  indicator  chemicals. 

14.  To  what  degree  should  the  state  water  board,  regional  boards,  and  the  California 
Department  of  Public  Health  coordinate  with  one  another  to  mandate  testing  and  set 
safety  limits  for  drugs  in  drinking  water?  Do  you  believe  this  is  an  issue  that  should  be 
dealt  with  on  a  region-by-region  basis? 

I  believe  this  is  a  topic  that  has  been  largely  overlooked  until  recently,  and  I  am  pleased  to  see 
the  momentum  that  has  been  gaining  over  the  past  coupe  of  years  to  focus  on  this  issue.  We 
have  heard  public  testimony  from  concerned  citizens  regarding  pharmaceuticals  and  endocrine 
disruptors,  and  certain  organizations  have  started  community  outreach  programs  to  educate 
the  public  on  the  proper  medicine  disposal.  I  am  pleased  with  these  efforts  to  broaden  the 
general  pubiic  s  awareness.  I  also  believe  this  is  an  issue  that  should  be  dealt  with  on  a 
statewide  basis  (rather  than  on  a  region — by-region  basis),  with  threshold  contaminant  levels 
established  based  on  direct  and  indirect  human  health  effects. 

15.  Is  your  board  monitoring  these  and  other  emerging  contaminants?  How  are  you  informed 
of  new  sources  of  pollution? 

It  is  my  understanding  that  the  State  Board  has  assembled  a  panel  of  leading  scientists  to 
determine  what  should  be  monitored  and  how  monitoring  should  be  conducted.  Once  this 
happens  (contaminants  have  been  identified  and  monitoring  protocols  established),  my  board 
can  move  forward  with  monitoring  programs  for  these  emerging  contaminants.  In  the  interim, 
my  board  is  not  taking  action  on  monitoring  emerging  contaminants. 

Recently  my  largest  information  source  for  emerging  contaminants  has  been  via  public 
testimony  from  concerned  citizens.  I  also  occasionally  hear  about  emerging  contaminants 
through  professional  conversation  (e.g.,  with  fellow  consultants  in  the  groundwater  industry 
who  have  used  these  contaminants  as  indicators  for  groundwater  migration  from  failing 
wastewater  systems).  I  also  feel  that  I  can  rely  on  the  technical  expertise  of  staff,  who  can 


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point  me  in  the  right  direction  if  I  have  a  particular  question. 


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John  H.  Muller 

Responses 

WQCB,  San  Francisco  Bay 

June  7,  2009 

Senate  Rules  Committee 

JUN  1     2003 
Appointments 

Ms.  Nettie  Sabelhaus,  Senate  Rules 

Committee  Appointments  Director 
Room  420 
State  Capitol 
Sacramento,  CA  95814 

Subject:  Responses  to  Senate  Rules  Committee  Questions  from  the  Honorable 
Darrell  Steinberg,  Chairman  of  the  Senate  Rules  Committee,  as  Part  Of 
Confirmation  Process  for  Regional  Water  Quality  Control  Board  Appointment 

Dear  Ms.  Sabelhaus: 

The  following  written  answers  are  in  response  to  your  letter  of  May  1 1 ,  2009  requesting  a 
response  to  questions  for  the  upcoming  Senate  Rules  confirmation  hearing  regarding  my 
reappointment  to  the  San  Francisco  Regional  Water  Quality  Control  Board  on  July  8,  2009. 

STATEMENT  OF  GOALS 

1.    Since  1995  when  you  were  first  appointed,  what  have  been  your  most  significant 
accomplishments  as  a  member  of  the  San  Francisco  Regional  Water  Quality  Control 
Board? 

There  have  been  many  accomplishments  during  my  twelve  years  on  the  Regional  Board.  My 
definition  of  accomplishment  is  that  we  ensure  we  continue  to  protect  the  water  quality  and 
environment  in  our  region,  which  we  all  work  very  hard  to  do.    Every  issue  we  study,  vote  on 
and  bring  to  the  surface  is  an  accomplishment  as  it  continues  to  move  water  quality  forward. 

After  over  eleven  years  of  working  on  the  Mercury  TMDL,  it  finally  was  adopted  by  our  Board. 
This  is  an  important  issue  that  many  past  and  present  Boards  have  worked  hard  to  achieve.  This 
was  a  top  priority  facing  our  Board  and  a  major  accomplishment.  We  continue  to  work  on  the 
most  important  TMDL's  for  our  region. 

In  2007  the  board  released  a  report  on  trash  pollution  in  our  region  which  found  all  14 
watersheds  in  the  region  had  high  levels  of  trash.  In  our  draft  municipal  Regional  Stormwater 
Permit  trash  was  identified  as  a  pollutant  of  concern.  In  February  the  board  released  its  order  on 
SF  Bay  Region  Municipal  Regional  Stormwater  NPDES  Permit  which  includes  a  provision  for 
trash  control.    We  will  be  working  on  along  with  the  storm  water  issues  of  all  the  municipalities 


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in  the  bay  area.  The  first  accomplishment  is  recognizing  the  problem.  We  have  a  plan  and  are 
moving  forward  to  further  accomplish  the  goal  of  reducing  trash  pollution 

2.  What  do  you  hope  to  accomplish  during  your  current  tenure  as  a  member  of  the 

Board? 

I  want  to  see  us  continue  to  enforce  all  the  rules  and  regulations  of  the  Clean  Water  Act  and  the 
Porter-Cologne  Act,  both  as  a  Regional  Board  member,  and  presently  as  Chair.  Accomplishing 
this  during  the  current  economic  climate  will  be  a  challenge,  indeed,  but  we  will  continue  to 
strive  for  success. 

3.  How  does  your  board  help  the  public  understand  the  state  of  water  quality  in  your 
Region? 

We  continually  monitor  and  update  our  website  so  that  current  information  is  always  available. 
The  Water  Board  regularly  produces  "fact  sheets"  for  the  public  about  water  quality  issues;  The 
Regional  Monitoring  Program  (RMP)  is  managed  by  the  SF  Estuary  Institute  which  issues  a 
publication  Pulse  of  the  Estuary  which  is  for  the  public;  The  Water  Board  is  working  more 
closely  with  county  health  departments  to  ensure  that  the  health  departments  have  up  to  date 
water  quality  information  and  are  making  water  quality  and  public  health  information  available 
to  the  public. 

4.  As  of  April  8,  2009  there  are  no  minutes  of  the  board's  meetings  since  April  9,  2009, 
listed  on  the  board's  Website.  Generally,  how  long  does  it  take  to  place  the  board's 
minutes  on  its  Website?  How  do  you  monitor  the  way  in  which  your  board 
communicates  with  the  public? 

As  you  are  well  aware,  there  have  been  serious  financial  challenges  with  the  state.  This  has 
been  a  staffing  issue  which  has  been  taken  care  of.  Generally,  of  course  the  minutes  should  be 
posted  in  a  timely  manner.  I  keep  in  touch  with  the  Executive  Officer  and  staff  offering 
suggestions  and  encouragement  to  do  the  best  they  can  with  the  limits  that  have  become  a 
reality.  Even  paper  purchases  are  being  limited  now. 

STATE  AND  REGIONAL  BOARD  .„„ 

5.  What  is  your  view  of  the  relationship  between  the  state  board  and  your  Regional 

Board?         What  type  of  guidance  do  you  receive  from  the  state  board? 

These  two  boards  are  working  much  better  together.  The  State  Board  has  a  monthly  Chairs' 
conference  call  for  updates  and  information.  This  is  a  big  step  forward  which  will  even  better 
support  informed  data  facilitating  for  the  decision  making  process.  State  Board  members  and 
staff  are  also  available  to  answer  our  questions  and  concerns  when  needed.  An  open  door 
policy  helps  with  clarification  on  all-important  issues. 

Our  state  board  liaison  member  attends  all  our  regularly  scheduled  board  meetings  and  as  Chair 
I  give  her  the  opportunity  to  update  us  on  all  issues  relating  to  state  and  regional  board 
activities. 

In  my  opinion,  during  the  past  twelve  years,  I  feel  we  have  the  most  qualified,  dedicated  and 
informed  board  members  in  the  state!  A  big  advantage  is  in  having  a  fully  seated  Regional 
Board  is  that  there  is  a  healthy,  diverse  membership  from  such  different  backgrounds.  This 


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leads  to  more  shared  expertise  and  open  information  made  available  allowing  even  better 
decision  making  abilities  possible. 

From  staff,  Board  members  receive  excellent  staff  reports,  staff  summary  reports  and 
presentations  that  explain  and  analyze  the  complex  issues  in  understandable  terms.  Staff  also 
provides  Board  members  less  formal  monthly  report  items  that  keep  both  Board  members  and 
the  public  abreast  of  issues  and  cases  as  they  evolve.  Additionally,  Board  members  have  easy 
access  to  the  Executive  Officer  of  the  Board  for  answers  to  questions. 

6.  What  is  the  best  use  of  the  board's  time?  Should  the  board  focus  on  the  permitting 
process  or  focus  on  broad  policy  issues,  such  as  updating  basin  plans  and  setting 
regional  priorities?  Or  can  the  board  reasonably  be  expected  to  accomplish  both? 

Our  number  one  role  is  to  hold  workshops  and  public  hearings  on  all  issues  before  us.  You 
really  cannot  pick  just  one.  We  have  continued  to  do  all  these  activities.  We  have  focused  on 
the  permitting  process  and  broad  policy  issues.  We  continue  to  update  our  basin  plans  and  set 
regional  priorities.  We  must  do  our  best  to  accomplish  both  as  we  work  with  US  EPA  to 
accomplish  these  goals. 

7.  Has  your  board  developed  or  discussed  creating  a  mechanism  that  would  let  the  public 
know  if  the  waters  in  your  region  are  becoming  cleaner  and  by  how  much? 

We  listen  to  all  the  Bay  Area  Agencies  (Save  the  Bay,  Water  Keepers,  Communities  for  a  Better 
Environment,  etc)  as  well  as  receive  information  from  them  and  forward  this  on  to  the  public 
through  the  Board's  website  and  outreach  programs.    Also  please  see  the  answer  to  question  3. 

8.  Do  the  state  board  and  your  regional  board  staff  assist  you  to  better  understand  some 
of  the  complex  issues  before  you  if  you  request  help?  If  now,  where  do  you  seek  help 
when  you  need  it?  Do  you  have  any  suggestions  on  how  the  state  water  board's  staff 
might  better  assist  you? 

The  State  Board  and  our  Regional  Board  staff  always  are  available  to  answer  any  questions 
we  might  have.  State  staff  is  doing  a  great  job,  we  have  a  liaison  to  our  monthly  meetings 
and  we  have  our  monthly  Chairs'  call.  They  all  are  doing  a  good  job  and  we  have  come  a  long 
way  over  the  past  twelve  years! 

ENFORCEMENT 

9.  What  is  your  view  on  how  your  board  should  enforce  water  quality  laws?  When  are 
fines  and  penalties  appropriate  and  when  are  more  informal  actions  necessary? 

There  is  really  no  one  most  effective  option  to  enforce  violations  of  board  orders  and  water 
quality  laws.  Since  the  circumstances  of  each  violation  differ,  the  most  effective  enforcement 
option  may  differ  from  violation  to  violation.  Fines  and  penalties  play  a  major  role  in 
publicizing  the  need  to  comply  with  the  Porter-Cologne  Act,  penalizing  those  who  violate  the 
Act,  and  deterring  the  party  in  violation  and  other  parties  from  future  violations  of  the  Act.  It 
may  not  be  appropriate  to  fine  small  businesses  or  individuals  that  may  be  forced  to  go  out  of 
business  to  pay  a  fine.  Oftentimes  it  is  better  to  use  enforcement  options  available  under  Porter- 
Cologne  to  ensure  the  involved  parties  clean  up  the  impacts  of  their  violations. 


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10.  Without  a  current  formal  state  board  policy  on  enforcement,  how  does  your  board 
determine  if  it  is  consistent  in  its  enforcement  practices  with  other  regional  boards? 

Our  jobs  must  be  done  and  our  Water  Board  continues  to  rely  on  existing  State  Board 
enforcement  policy  that  will  be  valid  until  it  is  revised.  Our  Water  Board  staff  participates 
with  the  State  Board's  Office  of  Enforcement  and  other  regions  in  enforcement  roundtables 
to  review  enforcement  actions  from  around  the  sate  and  to  make  sure  we  have  consistency. 
Our  Water  Board  is  represented  by  the  attorneys  from  the  State  Water  Board's  Office  of 
Enforcement  in  many  of  its  enforcement  actions,  and  those  attorneys  do  provide  a  state  wide 
perspective. 

TRASH  POLLUTION 

11.  How  might  the  Municipal  Regional  Storm  water  Permit  affect  the  deposition  of 
trash  in  the  region?  Should  other  improvements  be  expected? 

As  stated  in  your  prologue  to  this  question,  the  February  2009  draft  of  the  Municipal  Regional 
Stormwater  Permit  includes  significant  requirements  for  trash  controls  by  all  the  municipalities 
it  covers.  I  believe  this  Permit  covers  77  local  agencies,  so  it  will  be  the  first  major  regulatory 
vehicle  requiring  trash  control  in  this  region! 

Based  on  comments  and  testimony  given  in  May  regarding  the  February  2009  draft,  the  Water 
Board  directed  its  staff  to  ensure  that  the  Permit  focuses  controls  on  those  areas  listed  as 
impaired,  requires  implementation  of  trash  control  measures  over  this  5  year  permit  cycle  within 
the  financial  abilities  of  the  cities,  and  implements  cost  effective  measures  for  figuring  both  the 
reduction  in  trash  and  whether  other  water  bodies  in  the  region  have  been  harmed. 


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Also,  the  Water  Board  expects  to  use  the  Stormwater  Permit  as  its  main  means  to  regulate  trash 
pollution.  However,  over  the  next  few  years,  those  local  agencies  not  covered  by  this 
Stormwater  Permit  will  also  be  required  to  implement  similar  trash  control  methods  as  those 
required  by  the  Permit.  We  have  made  good  progress.  I  guess  there  always  is  more  that  can  be 
done,  but  we  all  must  start  somewhere. 

12.  How  do  you  see  the  designation  of  part  of  the  bay  as  impaired  by  trash?  How  will 
you  use  the  designation  if  adopted  by  the  federal  EPA? 

It  is  quite  likely  more  water  bodies  will  be  listed  as  impaired  by  trash  in  future  listing  processes. 
The  2008  listing  process  established  the  assessment  methods  that  will  be  used  to  analyze  other 
water  bodies  in  the  future.  This  is  based  on  the  trash  assessments  analyzed  by  staff  as  part  of 
the  2008  listing  process  established  the  assessment  methods  that  will  be  used  to  analyze  other 
water  bodies  in  the  future. 

The  listing  of  26  water  bodies  as  impaired  by  trash  has  already  raised  the  profile  of  trash 
pollution  and  its  impacts.  While  stating  that  they  have  financial  limitations  in  how  to  control 
trash,  most  commenters  on  the  Municipal  regional  Stormwater  Permit  agreed  that  more  effort 
was  needed  to  control  trash  pollution  in  the  Bay  and  its  watersheds. 

Because  requirements  to  control  trash  in  the  Stormwater  Permit  is  included,  it  may  not  be 
necessary  to  implement  TMDLs  if  the  federal  EPA  adopts  the  26  trash  listings.  However,  such 


an  impairment  designation  would  clearly  indicate  to  both  the  regulated  community  and  the 
public  that  the  control  of  trash  pollution  to  the  Bay  is  a  high  priority  for  the  Water  Board 


POTRERO  POWER  PLANT 

13.    Now  that  the  Supreme  Court  case  has  been  decided,  how  will  the  board  proceed  in 
addressing  the  issues  of  once-through  cooling  and  environmental  effects  of  the 
Potrero  Power  Plant? 

Addressing  the  impacts  of  once  through  cooling  water  systems  at  the  Potrero  Power  Plant  and  at 
the  other  power  plant  in  the  region  using  a  once  through  cooling  water  system  remains  a  high 
priority  for  this  Board. 

The  State  Board  has  indicated  that  it  expects  to  circulate  a  draft  statewide  policy  for  once- 
through-cooling  water  systems,  consistent  with  the  Supreme  Court  case  soon—early  summer 
2009!  Once  that  policy  is  adopted,  this  Water  Board  will  apply  it  to  both  of  these  power  plants 
by  reissuing  their  permits  consistent  with  the  statewide  policy.  This  will  before  us  soon,  and  we 
will  be  ready. 

In  conclusion,  I  would  like  to  thank  you  for  the  opportunity  to  answer  these  questions.  I  look 
forward  to  being  able  to  continue  to  work  for  the  betterment  of  our  state  and  environment.  I 
appreciate  the  ability  to  further  be  a  caretaker  of  the  earth. 

Sincerely  yours, 


John  H.  Muller 


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May  28,  2009  , .,-,  ^ 

TO:      Senate  Rules  Committee  Appointment  Director 
California  Legislature 
Room  420,  State  Capitol  Senate  Rules  Commi 

Sacramento,  CA  95814 

m  0  3  200- 

Attention:  Nettie  Sabelhaus 


Dear  Madam, 

I  am  submitting  my  response  to  your  questions  regarding  my  appointment  to  the  San 
Francisco  Bay  Regional  Water  Quality  Control  Board.  I  am  also  including  form  700, 
Statement  of  Economic  Interest. 


Statement  of  Goals 

1.      Since  2008  when  you  were  first  appointed,  what  have  been  your  most  significant 
accomplishments  as  a  member  of  the  San  Francisco  Regional  Water  Quality 
Control  Board?  What  do  you  hope  to  accomplish  during  your  current  tenure  as  a 
member  of  the  board?  How  will  you  measure  your  success? 

Besides  acquiring  the  knowledge  of  Water  Board  functions,  I  contributed  by  refining  the  permitting 
requirements  wherever  possible,  suggesting  language  to  new  TMDLs  such  as  for  mercury  and 
PCB,  emphasizing  the  need  to  utilize  ACL  monies  locally  to  the  extent  allowable  to  implement  water 
quality  projects,  urged  the  Board  and  staff  to  invite  media  to  publicize  significant  water  quality 
issues,  and  requested  greater  outreach  efforts  to  educate  public  about  the  importance  of  improving 
the  quality  of  all  waters  and  sustaining  it  for  the  future  generation.  I  have  been  active  participant  in 
Board  deliberations  and  offered  my  suggestions,  amendments,  and  refinements  regularly.  I  have 
attended  all  Board  meetings  since  my  appointment.  Significant  achievements  can  be  listed  as 
follows: 

•  Development  and  implementation  of  TMDLs  for  mercury,  PCB,  sediment,  and  Tomales  Bay 
watershed. 

•  Enforcement  of  sewage  spills  with  ACLs  of  $4  million  and  requirement  to  upgrade  the 
sewage  collection  systems. 

•  Progress  in  South  Bay  Salt  Pond  Restoration  Project. 

•  Enforcement  action  and  progress  in  controlling  discharges  from  Suisun  Bay  mothball  fleet. 

•  Inclusion  of  creeks  in  303D  list  and  encouragement  to  clean  the  creeks. 

•  Emphasis  on  trash  clean  up. 

My  goal  is  to  steadily  work  toward  improving  the  quality  of  surface,  underground,  saline,  estuarine 
waters  for  health  and  wellbeing  of  all  living  beings.  There  are  challenges  with  dealing  with  legacy 
and  emerging  chemicals.  Technological  and  scientific  developments  will  assist  us  to  treat  many 
chemicals  in  a  cost  effective  way. 


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The  success  in  measuring  water  quality  improvements  is  judged  by  finding  no  mercury  in  Bay  fish, 
by  decreasing  number  of  creeks  on  303D  list,  having  fewer  sewage  spills  in  the  Bay,  by  restoration 
of  Bay  Salt  Ponds,  improving  the  aging  water  system  infrastructure,  and  so  on. 

2.  What  do  you  believe  are  the  most  serious  problems  facing  your  regional  board? 

Some  serious  issues: 

•  Aging  infrastructure  results  in  sanitary  sewer  overflows  and  wastewater  treatment  plant  spills. 
Federal  stimulus  funds  will  not  be  enough  to  fully  repair  and  upgrade  this  infrastructure.  We  are 
also  facing  problems  due  to  the  budget  deficits  by  all  governmental  jurisdictions  due  to  downturn 
in  the  economy. 

•  Control  of  trash  and  other  urban  runoff  pollutants  is  lagging  in  other  parts  of  California,  but  local 
stormwater  agencies  have  limited  funding  to  address  this  problem. 

•  Legacy  pollutants,  such  as  mercury,  pesticides,  and  PCBs  continue  to  impact  the  Bay  even  with 
Board-imposed  TMDLs  in  place. 

•  The  recession  has  resulted  in  slowing  of  site  cleanups  and  abandonment  of  water  quality  controls 
at  some  development  sites. 

•  Slowing  disbursement  of  bond  funds  threatens  many  of  the  organizations  that  implement  the 
grants  that  these  bonds  fund. 

3.  How  does  your  board  help  the  public  understand  the  state  of  water  quality  in  your 
region?  Where  should  the  public  go  for  information  on  water  quality  issues  such  as 
beach  closures,  sewage  spills,  or  the  overall  quality  of  water  in  rivers,  streams,  and 
the  ocean  in  your  region? 

•  Over  the  past  year,  the  staff  has  been  constantly  upgrading  our  website  to  provide  improved 
information  on  water  quality  issues  and  policy  setting  and  provide  links  to  water  quality  data. 

•  In  the  early  90s,  the  Water  Board  required  all  dischargers  to  develop  and  participate  in  the 
Regional  Monitoring  Program  for  Water  Quality  in  the  San  Francisco  Bay  Estuary  (RMP). 
The  RMP's  annual  Pulse  of  the  Estuary  publication,  available  both  in  hard  copy  and  online, 
is  widely  recognized  as  the  best  tool  in  the  State  for  informing  the  public  about  status  and 
trends  of  our  major  water  bodies. 

•  The  Water  Board  regularly  produces  "fact  sheets"  for  the  public  about  water  quality  issues 
about  groundwater  cleanup  sites. 

•  While  counties  are  responsible  for  posting  information  about  beach  closures  on  their 
websites,  data  on  local  water  bodies  other  than  the  Bay,  collected  through  the  State  and 
Regional  Water  Board's  Surface  Water  Ambient  Monitoring  Program  (SWAMP),  is  posted 
on  our  web  page.  Also,  this  Water  Board  is  participating  with  other  State  agencies  in 
developing  the  California  Environmental  Data  Exchange  Network  to  house  SWAMP  and 
other  water  quality  data,  which  will  provide  public  answers  basic  questions  like  which  water 
body  is  safe  to  swim  in. 

•  Recently,  the  Board  has  been  emphasizing  media  publicity  and  public  outreach. 

•  The  Water  Quality  Control  Board  staff  is  always  available  to  answer  questions  from  the 
public  and  media. 


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As  of  April  8,  2009,  there  are  no  minutes  of  the  board's  meetings  since  April  9, 
2008,  listed  on  the  board's  Web  site.  Generally,  how  long  does  it  take  to  place  the 
board's  minutes  on  its  Web  site?  How  do  you  monitor  the  way  in  which  your  board 
communicates  with  the  public? 

•  I  have  discussed  with  the  staff  about  the  broken  links  on  our  website.  Water  Board  staff 
has  completed  a  major  redesign  of  our  website  over  the  past  year  to  conform  to  the 
Governor's  directive.  However,  not  all  links  are  active,  and  our  webmaster  has  been 
working  to  restore  all  links. 

•  Staffs  standard  procedure  is  to  have  all  Board  actions,  such  as  adoption  of  orders  and 
minutes,  signed  digitally,  transmitted  electronically  to  interested  parties,  and  posted  on 
our  website  within  a  week  of  the  action. 

•  The  Board  follows  up  with  staff  to  ensure  regular  use  of  press  releases,  fact  sheets,  and 
other  public  outreach  materials. 


State  and  Regional  Boards 

The  state  and  regional  boards  were  created  nearly  four  decades  ago.  In  January  2009 
the  Little  Hoover  Commission  issued  a  report  on  improving  the  performance  of  the 
state's  water  boards.  One  of  the  findings  was  that  the  relationship  between  the  state 
and  regional  boards  is  not  well-defined.  This  has  led,  they  believe,  to  inconsistencies 
and  inefficiencies  among  boards,  an  inability  to  set  statewide  priorities,  and  a  lack  of 
focus  by  the  state  board  on  holding  regional  boards  accountable  for  clean  water 
outcomes. 

The  report  also  found  that  there  is  little  focus  on  clean  water  outcomes  or  accountability. 
Regional  boards  admit  they  have  difficulty  in  analyzing  watersheds  to  determine 
whether  their  programs  are  protecting  and  improving  water  quality.  Regional  water 
boards'  focus  is  more  on  issuing  permits  and  determining  whether  dischargers  abide  by 
permits  than  determining  if  the  water  is  actually  getting  cleaner. 

Another  issue  that  has  been  raised  in  the  past,  and  also  discussed  in  the  recent 
commission  report,  is  that  many  of  the  issues  board  members  have  to  deal  with  are  very 
technical,  and  a  number  of  board  members  are,  basically,  volunteers  and  do  not  have 
such  formal  technical  experience. 

5.      What  is  your  view  of  the  relationship  between  the  state  board  and  your  regional 
board?  What  type  of  guidance  do  you  receive  from  the  state  board? 

•  Since  I  joined  the  Board,  I  have  attended  three  joint  meetings  with  the  State  Board  and 
regional  boards  in  San  Diego,  Sacramento,  and  Chino,  where  we  discussed  and  attempted 
to  develop  good  working  relationships  and  partnership  in  achieving  clean  water  goals. 

•  A  State  Board  member  is  assigned  to  our  Water  Board  and  regularly  attends  and  comments 
at  our  monthly  meetings. 


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State  Board  staff  has  attended  our  meetings  and  provided  our  Board  staff  direct  assistance 

in  media  relations,  outreach,  and  assistance  in  responding  to  public  inquiries. 

Our  Board  staff  is  working  directly  with  State  Board  staff  on  development  of  stream  and 

wetlands  policies,  water  reuse  policies,  and  addressing  the  impacts  of  climate  change. 

The  new  State  Board  Chair  is  emphasizing  working  with  all  Regional  Water  Boards  to 

develop  and  implement  policies  consistently. 

Our  Board  and  the  State  Board  have  an  open  line  of  communication  whenever  any  question 

arises. 


6.  What  is  the  best  use  of  the  board's  time?  Should  the  board  focus  on  the  permitting 
process  or  focus  on  broad  policy  issues,  such  as  updating  basin  plans  and  setting 
regional  priorities?  Or  can  the  board  reasonably  be  expected  to  accomplish  both? 

•  The  best  use  of  the  Board  time,  in  my  opinion,  is  listening  to  the  stakeholders, 
environmental  and  interested  groups,  and  public  and  public  officials.  These  opinions,  staff's 
findings,  clean  water  act  and  our  knowledge  of  the  issues  guide  us  in  making  a  balanced 
decision. 

•  The  Board's  most  significant  actions  are  the  adoption  of  basin  plan  amendments, 
refinements  of  TMDLs  and  permitting  requirements  within  the  set  policy  guidelines.  These 
decisions  are  made  in  public  where  extensive  testimony  is  received.  Some  of  these  actions 
take  more  than  one  Board  meetings. 

•  The  Board  meets  privately  to  consider  only  personnel  and  legal  issues.  The  Board  also 
reviewed  the  performance  of  the  executive  officer  and  provided  the  direction  for 
improvements,  where  necessary. 

•  Permitting  process,  development  of  basin  plans,  making  decisions  on  broad  policy  issues, 
etc  are  all  important.  These  issues  are  taken  up  by  the  Board  as  the  need  arises.  The 
Board  is  forced  to  take  time  to  take  decisions  on  all  these  matters.  The  limitations  are 
placed  on  the  Board  due  to  cut  back  in  staff  time  due  to  the  State  budget  crisis. 

•  Our  Board  is  full  of  competent  people,  and  there  is  no  shortage  of  skill  and  expertise.  The 
time,  budget,  and  staff  availability  to  investigate  the  cases  are  limiting  factors.  I  feel  one 
Board  meeting  per  month  is  not  adequate. 

7.  Has  your  board  developed  or  discussed  creating  a  mechanism  that  would  let  the 
public  know  if  the  waters  in  your  region  are  becoming  cleaner  and  by  how  much? 

The  Board  has  established  the  Regional  Monitoring  Program  for  Water  Quality  in  the  San  Francisco 
Bay  Estuary  (RMP),  which  provides  the  public  with  extensive  information  on  water  quality  in  our 
region,  with  a  focus  on  the  Bay.  The  RMP's  annual  Pulse  of  the  Estuary  publication  is  available  both 
in  hard  copy  and  online,  for  which  the  information  is  generated  through  the  Surface  Water  Ambient 
Monitoring  Program.  We  also  provide  monitoring  information  to  many  groups  for  their  review.  Based 
on  data  provided  by  us,  the  San  Francisco  Estuary  Project  and  the  Bay  Institute  issue  report  cards 
regularly.  Lately,  the  Board  has  emphasized  the  role  of  media  and  public  outreach.  Just  last 
Saturday,  Chanel  9  aired  an  eleven  minutes  presentation  on  sewage  spills  in  their  program,  Quest. 

8.  Do  the  state  board  and  your  regional  board  staff  assist  you  to  better  understand 
some  of  the  complex  issues  before  you  if  you  request  help?  If  not,  where  do  you 


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seek  help  when  you  need  it?  Do  you  have  any  suggestions  on  how  the  state  water 
board's  staff  might  better  assist  you? 

Certainly,  Board  staff  at  State  and  regional  levels  is  always  ready  to  assist  the  Board  members  to  clarify 
and  answer  questions  on  complex  issues.  Our  staff  prepares  status  reports  on  significant  issues  for  both 
public  and  Board  members.  Our  staff  has  been  working  hard,  but  they  can't  work  two  Fridays  each  month 
and  the  vacant  positions  can't  be  filled  at  this  time  due  to  the  budget  crisis.  The  Board  members  spend  a 
huge  amount  of  time  in  going  over  the  details  of  every  issue  which  comes  before  it.  Of  course,  the  Board 
members  use  their  expertise,  materials  presented  to  them,  and  public  comments  in  making  their 
decisions.  The  only  solution  to  get  more  efficient  help  from  the  staff  is  to  provide  more  staff  and 
resources,  which  is  not  possible  at  the  present  time. 


Enforcement 

In  2005  the  Office  of  the  Secretary  of  Cal/EPA  reported  to  the  Legislature  on 
environmental  enforcement  and  suggested  that  the  state  and  regional  water  boards 
were  among  the  worst  agencies  in  enforcing  the  law.  In  2008  the  state  board,  in  its 
Strategic  Plan  2008-2012,  said  it  would  adopt  an  updated  water  quality  enforcement 
policy  by  December  2008.  That  enforcement  policy  will  now  not  be  adopted  until  mid  to 
late  2009.  On  January  1,  2009,  the  state  board  published  its  2008  enforcement  report. 
Among  other  things,  it  showed  the  number  of  violations  that  were  imposed  by  regional 
boards  compared  to  completed  enforcement  actions.  For  the  four-year  period  from  2005 
through  2008,  the  San  Francisco  regional  water  board  scored  a  low  of  20  percent  in 
2008  and  a  high  of  63  percent  in  2005  in  wastewater  violations  compared  to  completed 
enforcement  actions.  This  is  below  the  average  of  the  nine  regional  boards.  For 
stormwater  violations  compared  to  completed  enforcement  actions,  the  board  scored  a 
low  of  50  percent  in  2005  and  a  high  of  98  percent  in  2007.  This  is  below  the  average  of 
the  nine  regional  boards. 

9.      What  is  your  view  on  how  your  board  should  enforce  water  quality  laws?  When  are 
fines  and  penalties  appropriate  and  when  are  more  informal  actions  necessary? 

Since  I  joined  the  Board,  we  have  taken  many  enforcement  actions.  We  implement  TMDLs  through 
permits  or  other  regulatory  mechanisms.  Our  Board  has  adopted  regionwide  permits,  such  as  the 
regionwide  mercury  discharge  permit  for  wastewater  dischargers  with  required  level  of  implementation 
and  monitoring. 

Our  enforcement  staff  directly  monitor  for  compliance  of  permits  and  recommend  enforcement  actions  if 
needed.  We  have  required  an  adaptive  management  strategy  that  phases  implementation  based  on 
monitoring  and  the  collection  of  new  information  about  the  constituent  or  its  control.  Every  time  a  permit 
comes  up  for  renewal,  we  tighten  up  the  requirements  based  upon  the  technological  progress.  Our 
approach  to  imposition  of  penalties  may  be  summarized  as  follows: 

•  There  is  no  one  most  effective  option  to  enforce  violations  of  board  orders  and  water  quality  laws. 
Since  the  circumstances  of  each  violation  differ,  the  most  effective  enforcement  option  may  differ 
from  violation  to  violation.  Fines  and  penalties  play  a  significant  role  in  publicizing  the  need  to 


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comply  with  the  Porter-Cologne  Act,  penalizing  those  who  violate  the  Act,  and  deterring  the  party 
in  violation  and  other  parties  from  future  violations  of  the  Act. 

•  It  may  not  be  appropriate  to  fine  small  businesses  or  individuals  that  may  be  forced  to  go  out  of 
business.  It  is  frequently  better  to  use  other  enforcement  options  available  under  Porter-Cologne 
Act  to  ensure  that  such  parties  cleanup  the  impacts  of  their  violations. 

•  When  agencies  such  as  wastewater  dischargers  infrequently  violate  their  permits,  enforcement 
through  imposition  of  mandatory  minimum  penalties  is  an  effective  means  of  ensuring  that  the 
decision-makers  of  these  dischargers  are  fully  aware  and  take  responsibility  for  their  violations. 

•  When  agencies  or  other  parties  have  frequent  or  repeated  violations  or  are  clearly  negligent  in 
allowing  a  violation  to  occur,  the  Board  has  directed  staff  to  impose  large  administrative  civil 
liabilities  that  not  only  penalize  parties  for  their  violations,  but  effectively  deter  that  party  from 
having  similar  violations  in  the  future. 

Please  note  that: 

•  This  Water  Board  has  significantly  increased  its  imposition  of  fines  since  2005  to  repeated  and 
negligent  violators,  especially  to  those  with  sanitary  sewer  overflows  and  wastewater  spills. 

•  Contrary  to  the  tables  included  in  the  State  Board's  2008  enforcement  report,  the  level  of 
enforcement  in  this  Water  Board's  wastewater  and  stormwater  programs  has  significantly 
increased  in  recent  years,  not  declined  as  suggested  by  the  enforcement  report.  This  is  because 
that  report  does  not  track  this  Water  Board's  increased  enforcement  of  sewage  spills,  continues 
to  include  low  priority  general  permit  violations  from  2005  not  subject  to  mandatory  minimum 
penalties,  and  does  not  reflect  the  enforcement  of  wastewater  violations  via  the  State  and 
Regional  Water  Board's  expedited  mandatory  minimum  penalty  program  initiated  in  2008  as  that 
enforcement  is  not  yet  considered  "resolved".  Sewage  spills  and  their  associated  enforcement 
are  not  currently  reported  in  the  enforcement  report. 

The  main  problem  with  the  accidental  overflow  of  sewage  is  aging  infrastructure  and  distribution  system, 
which  will  require  huge  investment  to  upgrade  them.  Currently,  the  cities  and  public  agencies  are  running 
deficits  due  to  the  bad  economic  time  and  public  seem  to  be  in  no  mood  to  pass  new  bond  measures. 
That's  why  we  are  emphasizing  the  media  publicity  and  outreach  programs  to  educate  public. 

10.    Without  a  current  formal  state  board  policy  on  enforcement  how  does  your  board 
determine  if  it  is  consistent  in  its  enforcement  practices  with  other  regional  boards? 

•  Our  Water  Board  continues  to  rely  on  the  existing  State  Board  enforcement  policy  that  remains 
valid  until  revised. 

•  Our  Water  Board's  staff  participates  with  the  State  Board's  Office  of  Enforcement  and  other 
regions  in  enforcement  roundtables  to  review  enforcement  actions  from  around  the  state  and  to 
ensure  consistency. 

•  Our  Water  Board  is  represented  by  the  attorneys  from  the  State  Board's  Office  of  Enforcement  in 
many  of  its  enforcement  actions,  and  those  attorneys  provide  a  statewide  perspective. 

Trash  Pollution 

In  May  2007  the  board  released  a  report  on  trash  pollution  in  the  San  Francisco  Bay 
region  which  found  that  all  14  watersheds  in  the  region  had  high  levels  of  trash.  The 
greatest  concentrations  were  near  the  San  Francisco  Bay.  In  addition,  the  board's  2007 
draft  Municipal  Regional  Stormwater  Permit  identified  trash  as  a  pollutant  of  concern. 


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On  February  1 1 ,  2009,  the  board  released  its  tentative  order  on  the  San  Francisco  Bay 
Region  Municipal  Regional  Stormwater  NPDES  Permit,  which  includes  a  provision  for 
trash  control,  including  the  installation  of  full  trash  capture  devices.  The  board  is 
scheduled  to  hear  the  tentative  order  in  May. 

On  February  1 1 ,  2009,  the  board  voted  to  designate  the  edges  of  the  central  bay  and 
the  south  bay,  along  with  24  rivers  and  creeks,  as  impaired  by  trash  under  the  federal 
Clean  Water  Act.  If  approved  by  the  state  board  and  the  federal  EPA,  the  federal  EPA 
would  require  the  region  to  start  regulating  trash  as  an  urban  pollutant  or  face  heavy 
fines. 

1 1.  How  might  the  Municipal  Regional  Stormwater  Permit  affect  the  deposition  of  trash 
in  the  region?  Should  other  improvements  be  expected? 

•  As  noted,  the  February  2009  draft  of  the  Municipal  Regional  Stormwater  Permit  includes 
significant  requirements  for  trash  controls  by  all  municipalities  it  covers.  This  Permit 
covers  77  local  agencies,  and  it  will  be  the  first  significant  regulatory  vehicle  requiring  trash 
control  in  this  region. 

•  Based  on  comments  and  testimony  received  in  May  on  the  February  2009  draft,  the  Water 
Board  has  directed  its  staff  to  ensure  that  the  Permit  focuses  controls  on  those  areas  listed 
as  impaired,  requires  implementation  of  trash  control  measures  over  this  5-year  permit 
cycle  within  the  financial  abilities  of  the  municipalities,  and  implements  cost-efective 
measures  for  assessing  both  the  reduction  in  trash  and  the  extent  of  impairment  of  water 
bodies  in  the  region. 

•  The  Water  Board  expects  to  use  the  Stormwater  Permit  as  its  primary  vehicle  to  regulate 
trash  pollution.   However,  over  the  next  few  years,  those  local  agencies  not  covered  by  this 
Stormwater  Permit  will  also  be  required  to  implement  similar  trash  control  methods. 

12.  How  do  you  see  the  designation  of  part  of  the  bay  as  impaired  by  trash?  How  will 
you  use  the  designation  if  adopted  by  the  federal  EPA? 

•  Based  on  the  trash  assessments  analyzed  by  staff  as  part  of  the  2008  impaired  water  body 
listing  process,  it  is  quite  likely  more  water  bodies  will  be  listed  as  impaired  by  trash  in 
future  listing  processes.  The  2008  listing  process  established  the  assessment  methods 
that  will  be  utilized  to  analyze  other  water  bodies  in  the  future. 

•  The  listing  of  26  water  bodies  as  impaired  by  trash  has  already  raised  the  profile  of  trash 
pollution  and  its  impacts.  While  stating  that  they  have  financial  limitations  in  how  to  control 
trash,  most  commentators  on  the  Municipal  Regional  Stormwater  Permit  agreed  that  more 
effort  was  needed  to  control  trash  pollution  in  the  Bay  and  its  watersheds. 

•  By  including  requirements  to  control  trash  in  the  Stormwater  Permit,  it  may  not  be 
necessary  to  implement  TMDLs  if  the  federal  EPA  adopts  the  26  trash  listings.  However, 
such  an  impairment  designation  would  clearly  indicate  to  both  the  regulated  community  and 
the  public  that  the  control  of  trash  pollution  to  the  Bay  is  a  high  priority  for  the  Water  Board. 


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One  of  the  generators  of  the  Potrero  Power  Plant  owned  by  Mirant  Corporation,  located 
just  south  of  Mission  Bay,  draws  millions  of  gallons  of  water  per  day  from  the  bay  for 
cooling.  After  being  run  through  the  plant,  the  heated  water  is  discharged  back  into  the 
bay,  where  studies  have  shone  it  stirs  up  harmful  substances  such  as  copper,  dioxin, 
mercury,  and  PCBs.  In  2006  the  board  said  it  would  bar  the  company  from  using  the 
cooling  system  after  2008  unless  the  firm  could  show  its  cooling  system  had  no 
significant  adverse  environmental  effects  on  the  bay.  Board  staff  have  since  said  that 
the  rules  were  suspended  pending  the  resolution  of  a  Supreme  Court  case  challenging 
federal  water  laws.  That  case  was  decided  April  1,  2009,  and  new  federal  regulations 
may  be  developed  by  the  new  federal  administration. 

1 3.    Now  that  the  Supreme  Court  case  has  been  decided,  how  will  the  board  proceed  in 
addressing  the  issues  of  once-through  cooling  and  environmental  effects  of  the 
Potrero  Power  Plant? 

The  Board  assigns  a  great  importance  to  the  impacts  of  once-through-cooling  water  system  at  the 
Potrero  Power  Plant  and  other  power  plants  in  the  region.  The  State  Board  has  indicated  that  it's 
going  to  circulate  a  draft  statewide  policy  for  once-through-cooling  water  systems,  consistent  with 
the  Supreme  Court's  decision.  Once  that  policy  is  adopted  by  the  State  Board,  we  will  be  reissuing 
the  permits  to  power  plants  in  our  region  consistent  with  the  statewide  policy. 

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Thank  you. 
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Answers  to  Questions  from  Senate  Rules  Committee  June  9,  2009  Request 

P)idharcL  frcsch/t 

STATEMENT  OF  GOALS  a  g  <  pan  S  e  5 

1 .  What  do  you  hope  to  accomplish  during  your  tenure  as  a  member  of  the 
board?  What  goals  do  you  have  for  the  board,  and  how  will  you  accomplish  them? 
How  will  you  measure  your  success? 

During  my  tenure  as  a  Board  Member  of  Region  8  California  Water  Quality  Control 
Board,  I  hope  to  assist  in  the  continuation  of  the  positive  reputation  of  this  Board  as  being 
reasonable,  fair,  and  just  in  the  discharge  of  its  duties  as  enumerated  in  the  Porter- 
Cologne  Water  Quality  Control  Act. 

There  are  several  major  issues  currently  facing  the  Board  that  I  hope  to  assist  in 
implementing,  among  some  of  the  most  challenging  of  them:  Reissuance  of  Stormwater 
permits  for  San  Bernardino,  Riverside  and  Orange  Counties.  TMDL  adoption  for 
selenium  in  the  Newport  Bay  Watershed.  Reissuance  of  the  ocean  discharge  permit  for 
Orange  County  Sanitation  District. 

2.  What  do  you  believe  are  the  most  serious  issues  facing  your  board? 

1 .  Funding.  The  responsibilities  we  face  with  less  than  one-half  of  the 
funding  needed  to  accomplish  the  task  cause  us  significant  challenges.  This  is  an 
estimate  by  the  LAO. 

2.  The  most  important  water  quality  issue  is  the  increasing  salt  levels  in 
surface  and  ground  waters  in  our  Region.  This  adverse  salt  balance  in  surface  and  ground 
waters  has  harsh  supply  and  beneficial  use  considerations,  as  well  as  serious  economic 
considerations. 

3.  In  the  Rialto  area,  there  is  Perchlorate  contamination  in  the  groundwater 
which  is  a  significant  water  quality  dilemma.  There  is  litigation  on  this  issue. 

3.  How  does  your  board  help  the  public  understand  the  state  of  water  quality  in 
your  region?  Where  should  the  public  go  for  information  on  water  quality  issues, 
such  as  beach  closures,  sewage  spills,  or  the  overall  quality  of  water  quality  in  rivers 
and  streams  in  your  region? 

Our  Regional  Board  has  an  absolutely  fabulous  web  site  (www.swrcb.ca.gov/rwqcb8/). 
It  has  a  listing  of  resources,  Email  subscriptions  requests,  data  &  databases  in  the 
California  Integrated  Water  Quality  System  and  Geotracker  databases,  a  public  records 
center,  sources  for  grants  and  loans,  fees,  how  to  file  an  environmental  complaint  and 
useful  links  to  spills;  almost  anything  one  could  need.  By  the  way,  our  region  is  the  only 
one  to  do  region- wide  recalculations  of  ambient  water  quality  on  a  triennial  basis.  All 
this  information  is  available  in  an  easy  to  download  format. 

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STATE  AND  REGIONAL  BOARD  ROLES 


4.  Who  is  available  to  assist  you  at  the  state  board  and  your  regional 
board  to  better  understand  some  of  the  complex  issues  before  you?  Do 
you  have  any  suggestions  on  how  the  state  water  board  staff  might 
better  assist  you? 

I  believe  the  state  board  does  a  good  job  in  supporting  our  legal  counsel  and 
keeping  him  informed  on  any  issues  where  he  needs  assistance.  Our  state 
Chair,  Tarn  Doduc,  attends  most  of  our  meetings  and  is  available  to  our 
Regional  Chair.    Our  Regional  Chair,  Carole  Beswick,  participates  in  a 
monthly  teleconference  with  the  chair  of  the  other  regions  and  the  State 
Chair. 

Our  Executive  Director  and  our  Region  Chair  are  always  available  and 
welcome  questions  that  are  promptly  and  clearly  answered.  Frequent  E- 
mails  and  phone  contact  are  routine.  The  meeting  agendas  are  provided  to 
us  in  a  timely  manner  so  I  have  sufficient  time  to  review  and  ask  questions 
of  the  Director  or  any  of  the  several  competent  staff  members  in  our  Region. 
Our  Regional  Counsel  is  always  available  to  guide  me  in  understanding  the 
situations  and  rules  of  ex-parte  communications.  I  have  all  the  resources  at 
my  disposal  to  provide  the  solution  to  any  questions  or  issues  I  have  in  the 
course  of  our  business. 

5.  What  training  have  you  received  to  help  you  better  understand 
when  you  might  have  a  conflict  of  interest  regarding  an  issue  on  your 
board's  agenda?  How  do  you  know  when  to  withdraw  yourself  from 
voting  on  an  issue?  Have  you  ever  done  so  since  being  appointed  to  this 
board? 

Briefings  by  Philip  Wyels,  the  Deputy  Chief  Counsel  of  the  State  Board,  conflict  of 
interest  training  on  the  web  site  of  the  Fair  Political  Practices  Commission,  briefings  at 
the  Water  Education  Workshop. 

I  well  understand  conflict  of  interest  issues.  During  my  12  years  on  the  City  council  of 
Villa  Park,  my  tenure  as  a  Director  of  the  Orange  county  Sanitation  District,  as  well  as 
tenure  on  the  Orange  County  Vector  Control  required  me  to  attend  a  class  on  ethics  and 
conflict  of  interest.  Moreover,  the  Regional  Counsel,  the  Executive  Director  and  the 


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Regional  Chair  realize  the  need  to  be  vigilant  regarding  conflict  of  interest  issues.  I  have 
withdrawn  myself  once  while  on  this  board. 

6.  What  is  your  view  of  the  relationship  between  the  state  board  and  your 
regional  board?  Could  coordination  and  accountability  be  improved?  If  so,  how? 

The  relationship  between  the  state  board  and  the  regional  board  is  considered  by  many  to 
be  generally  established  by  the  Porter-Cologne  Water  Quality  Control  Act.  The  Regional 
board  sets  the  water  quality  standards  through  the  basin  plan  and  develops  the  Total 
Maximum  Daily  Loads  of  each  item.  The  region  also  enforces  the  permit  and  discharge 
requirements  in  addition  to  state  and  federal  water  quality  laws.  Our  region  frequently 
invites  State  Board  staff  to  participate  in  our  task  force  presentations 

My  view  of  the  relationship  with  the  state  board  is  that  it  is  smooth  and  well  running. 
Each  entity  has  its  duties  and  coordinates  with  the  other.  The  state  chair,  Tarn  Doduc, 
has  attended  each  meeting,  except  perhaps  one,  since  I  have  been  on  the  board.  As 
earlier  indicated,  our  regional  chair,  Carole  Beswick,  participates  in  a  monthly 
teleconference  with  each  of  the  board  chairs  and  the  state  board.  During  February  there 
was  a  three  day  workshop  for  board  members.  Several  state  board  members  were 
participants  and  presenters.  My  perception  and  understanding  is  that  the  Santa  Region  is 
on  the  best  of  terms  with  the  state  board.  This  has  been  articulated  by  several  of  the 
presenters  at  the  workshop  for  board  members.  From  what  I've  heard  from  board 
members  of  other  regions  and  some  stakeholders  who  deal  with  other  regions,  our  Santa 
Ana  Board  is  truly  unique  in  its  method  of  operation.  Our  staff  engages  stakeholder 
participation  in  basin  planning,  development  of  TMDLs,  and  emerging  contaminants. 
Several  meetings  are  arranged  where  staff  listens  and  resolves  most  of  the  contentious 
issues  so  they  are  resolved  prior  to  being  brought  to  the  board. 

7.  How  is  your  board  able  to  address,  within  its  current  funding  levels,  the  state 
and  federal  laws  you  are  charged  with  enforcing?  Are  there  issues  you  believe  get 
less  attention  than  they  need,  due  to  current  funding  levels  and  constraints  on 
resources? 

According  to  the  Office  of  the  Legislative  Analyst,  the  regional  boards  receive 
approximately  50%  of  the  required  funding  necessary  to  fully  accomplish  their 
responsibilities.  As  a  result  of  this  inadequate  funding,  basin  planning  work, 
development  of  TMDLs,  reissuance  of  waste  discharge  requirements,  inspections  of 
various  facilities,  and  several  other  issues  are  not  fully  completed  as  the  region  would 
like  them  to  be. 


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8.  How  does  your  board  evaluate  the  effectiveness  of  the  region's  efforts  to 
address  the  water  and  groundwater  impacts  from  dairies  in  the  Chino  Basin?  Are 
you  satisfied  with  the  results  thus  far? 

The  Maximum  Benefit  water  quality  objectives  for  the  Chino  Basin  that  were  recently 
adopted  allow  the  Chino  Basin  Watermaster  and  the  Inland  Empire  Utilities  Agency  to 
implement  an  integrated  water  supply  and  groundwater  plan  that  fully  address  the  dairies 
groundwater  impact  in  a  unique  manner.  The  Maximum  Benefit  program  allows  for  an 
integrated  program  that  includes  an  extensive  series  of  extraction  wells  and  desalting 
facilities  for  addressing  the  ground  water  impacts  from  the  Chino  Basin  Dairies.  The 
program  reverses  the  gradient  of  the  groundwater  in  the  Chino  Basin,  such  that  the 
groundwater  underlying  the  dairies  is  drawn  back  from  the  Santa  Ana  River,  protecting 
surface  water  quality  from  the  dairy  impacts.  The  groundwater  is  extracted,  treated  by 
the  desalting  facilities  and  the  water  is  then  used  to  supplement  the  local  water  supply. 
The  brines  from  the  desalting  are  sent  to  the  Orange  County  Sanitation  District  for 
treatment. 

9.  How  will  the  Engineered  Waste  Management  Plans  and  Nutrient 
Management  Plans  improve  water  quality  in  the  region?  How  is  the  board  using  the 
plans? 

The  Santa  Ana  Region  adopted  the  waste  discharge  requirements  for  all  dairies  in  the 
region  during  the  1970's.  The  dairies  are  required  to  prepare  and  implement  engineered 
waste  management  plans  to  contain  all  runoff,  including  storm  water.  Basin  Plan 
requirements  mandate  that  dairies  must  also  dispose  all  waste  products  produced.  The 
board  also  requires  all  dairies  to  have  retention  and  disposal  facilities  that  provide 
significant  benefits  for  downstream  water  quality.  All  dairies  must  have  facilities 
designed  by  registered  professional  engineers  and  they  must  certify  the  facilities  have 
been  constructed  according  to  the  approved  plans. 

10.  What  are  the  challenges  facing  the  board  for  monitoring,  compliance  and 
enforcement? 

One  of  the  major  issues  facing  our  region's  regulatory  program  is  inadequate  resources. 
More  than  300  dairies  are  expected  to  be  dealt  with  by  only  two  staff  members.  The 
region  is  fortunate  that  outside  assistance  is  provided  by  the  U.S.  EPA  to  help  with 
inspection  and  enforcement.  The  NRDC  has  provided  additional  funding  through 
litigations  settlements  to  fund  inspections  by  the  engineering  contractor  for  the  U.S.  EPA. 

PERCHLORATE  GROUNDWATER  CONTAMINATION 


11.  What  is  the  status  of  the  contaminated  groundwater  in  and  around  Rialto, 
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Perchlorate  in  groundwater  in  these  areas  comes  from  two  sources.  Historically,  Chilean 
Nitrate  fertilizer  containing  significant  concentrations  of  perchlorate  was  imported  and 
used  on  citrus  crops  in  the  area  from  the  1 800 's  through  World  War  II.  This  accounts  for 
the  widespread  occurrence  of  perchlorate  in  citrus  areas  within  the  region.  Additionally, 
industrial  discharges  of  perchlorate  are  responsible  for  higher  levels  of  perchlorate  in  the 
Rialto/Colton  areas.  These  sources  have  been  addressed  through  the  use  of  wellhead 
treatment  facilities,  wherever  concentrations  in  public  water  supplies  exceed  standards  set 
by  the  California  Public  Health  Department.  No  public  water  supplies  in  the  region 
exceed  these  standards. 

CLEANING  UP  POLLUTED  WATERS 


12.  In  your  view,  what  is  the  role  of  regional  water  boards  regarding 
required  testing  and  standard  limits  for  pharmaceutical  and  over-the- 
counter  drugs  in  drinking  water?  Should  the  state  water  board, 
through  regional  boards,  be  working  with  the  California  Department  of 
Public  Health  to  require  testing  and  set  safety  limits  for 
pharmaceuticals  in  drinking  water? 

The  role  of  regional  boards  is  to  require  that  dischargers  and  groundwater  recharge 
agencies  perform  adequate  monitoring  to  provide  information  of  the  levels  of  these 
constituents  in  what  is  discharged  or  imported  into  the  groundwater  basin.  Regional 
boards  should  ensure  compliance  with  whatever  standards  are  established  by  the 
California  Department  of  Public  Health,  in  collaboration  with  the  Office  of 
Environmental  Health  Hazard  Assessment.  Regarding  the  "safety"  aspects  in  drinking 
water,  it  is  the  responsibility  of  the  California  Department  of  Public  Health  to  set  safe 
levels  for  any  constituents  in  the  water  and  the  regional  boards  may  be  able  to  assist  by 
providing  additional  data  for  consideration. 

13.  What  will  be  the  role  of  your  board's  emerging  contaminate  task  force? 
Under  what  timeline  will  they  operate? 

This  group  is  a  creation  by  the  stakeholders  that  discharge  permitted  wastewater  or  that 
recharge  imported  water  into  the  groundwater.  The  group,  including  the  regional  board 
Executive  Officer,  has  already  received  extensive  scientific  testimony  from  outside 
experts  concerning  the  chemicals  that  make  up  the  so  called  "emerging  contaminants", 
the  difficulties  with  sampling  and  analyzing  these  constituents,  and  how  these  chemicals 
survive  the  various  treatment  barriers  during  wastewater  treatment  and  water  supply 
treatment  processes.  It  is  expected  that  before  the  end  of  this  year,  the  work  group  will 
propose  two  different  monitoring  plans  for  consideration  by  the  regional  board;  one  for 
wastewater  discharges  and  another  for  imported  water  used  for  groundwater  recharge. 


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B.H.  Olson,  PhD,  Goal  Statement  for  Western  States  Water  Council 
California  Senate  Rules  Committee 


Status  of  California  and  Water 

As  a  water  scientist  and  a  publicly  elected  Water  Board  Director,  I  have  come  to  understand 

■  the  great  accomplishments  of  California  in  providing  good  quality  and  plentiful  water  supplies  for  its 
citizens  and  for  economic  development,  and 

•  the  disparities  that  can  arise  between  protection  of  the  environment  and  the  economic  growth  of 
California. 

In  order  for  California  to  thread  its  way  to  a  balance  of  all  the  needs  in  the  state, 

•  bold  and  thoughtful  plans  must  be  undertaken,  and 

•  conservation  must  play  a  significant  role  but  cannot  alone  meet  the  needs  increased  population  growth 
has  generated  over  the  last  three  decades. 

Perhaps  more  Importantly,  unforeseen  consequences  of  water  policy  decisions  must  be  anticipated. 

•  Conservation  in  certain  geographical  regions  will  lead  to  decreased  quality  of  recycled  water  10th  in 
terms  of  increased  total  dissolved  solids  and  higher  concentration  of  pharmaceuticals  and  personal  care 
products. 

•  Water  projects  undertaken  by  the  state  must  be  scientifically  and  technologically  smart  to  enhance  the 
future  of  the  state  and  protect  its  water  resources. 

Qualifications 

I  believe  I  am  uniquely  qualified  to  assist  the  state  of  California  in  achieving  its  goals  in  water  quantity  and 
quality  with  insights  that  will  lend  themselves  to  promote  and  pursue  pioneering  water  solutions.  My 
background  provides  me  with  an  excellent  understanding  of  water  supply  quantity,  reliability  and  quality  based 
on  my 

•  educational  background  in  public  health,  toxicology  and  water  quality  and  treatment  from  my  doctoral 
training  at  the  University  of  California,  Berkeley; 

•  progression  through  the  professorial  ranks  at  the  University  of  California,  Irvine,  now  as  a  professor  In 
Civil  and  Environmental  Engineering; 

•  participation  in  national  water  issues  through  my  Involvement  on  National  Research  Council  Committees 
and  as  a  member  of  NAS  Water  Science  and  Technology  Board; 


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•  increased  breadth  of  knowledge  of  chemical  and  biological  hazards  from  my  participation  in  the  USEPA 
Science  Advisory  Board's  Drinking  Water  Committee; 

•  service  as  an  elected  Director  on  the  Irvine  Ranch  Water  District  (1982-1989)  and  the  Santa  Margarita 
Water  District  (1994-present); 

•  experience  with  multi-million  doliar  budgets  and  water  and  wastewater  infrastructure  projects. 

Goals  as  a  member  of  the  Western  States  Water  Council 

The  Western  States  Water  Council  provides  an  opportunity  to  look  for  a  commonality  among  water  issues  and 
build  coalitions  to  achieve  outcomes  beneficial  for  the  western  states,  especially  related  to  adaptation  to  climate 
change.  I  wish  to 

■     provide  the  Council  a  public  perspective  from  the  consumer's  view; 

•  interact  with  the  Governor's  Director  of  Water  Resources  and  Secretary  of  Natural  Resources  to 
promote  the  administration's  identified  solutions  to  water  issues; 

•  meet  with  local  and  state  legislators  to  understand  their  views  of  key  water  problems  in  the  state; 

«     alert  appropriate  government  officials  of  innovative  approaches  to  local  and  regional  water  quantity  and 
quality  concerns  provided  to  me  through  my  educational  experiences; 

With  the  help  of  the  Department  of  Water  Resources,  we  have  identified  an  initial  focus  on  determining  the  risk 
of  emerging  chemical  hazards  from  pharmaceuticals  and  personal  care  products  in  groundwater  from  recharge 
with  recycled  water. 

!  believe  that  California's  continued  success  is  embedded  in  resolving  our  water  shortages  and  I  have  the 
commitment  and  knowledge  to  work  with  the  Governor's  administration,  legislators  and  the  Council  to  find 
solutions  to  our  water  needs  in  order  to  maintain  quality  and  sufficient  quantity  for  California's  economic 
growth. 


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