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HARVARD  COLLEGE 
LIBRARY 


GIFT  OF  THE 

GOVERNMENT 
OF  THE  UNITED  STATES 


U^^2>oc  a. 


INVESTIGATION  OF  COMMUNIST  ACTIVITIES 
IN  THE  OHIO   AREA 

(TESTIMONY  OF  KEVE  BRAY) 


HEARING 

BEFORE  THE 

COMMITTEE  ON  UN-AMERICAN  ACTIVITIES 
HOUSE  OF  EEPEESENTATIYES 

EIGHTY-FOURTH  CONGEESS 

FIRST  SESSION 


JULY  13.  1955 


Printed  for  the  use  of  the  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities 


INCLUDING  INDEX 


UNITED  STATES 
GOVERNMENT  PRINTING  OFFICE 
66298  WASHINGTON  :   1955 

HARVARD  COLLEGE  LIBRARY 
DEPOSITED  BY  THE 


COMMITTEE  ON  UN-AMERICAN  ACTIVITIES 
United  States  House  of  Representatives 

FRANCIS  E.  WALTER,  Pennsylvania,  Chahman 
MORGAN  M    MOULDER,  Missouri  HAROLD  H.  VELDE,  Illinois 

CLYDE  DOYLE.  California  BERNARD  W.  KEARNEY    New  York 

iAME?B    FRAZIER,  Jr.,  Tennessee  DONALD  L.  JACKSON,  CaWornm 

EDWIN  E.  WILLIS.  Louisiana  GORDON  H.  SCHERER.  Ohio 

Thomas  W.  Beale,  Sr..  Chief  Clerk 


II 


CONTENTS 


Pago 

July  13,  1955:  Testimony  of  Keve  Bray 1419 

Index i 


Public  Law  601,  79th  Congress 

The  legislation  under  which  the  House  Committee  on  Un-American 
Activities  operates  is  Public  Law  601,  79th  Congress  [1946],  chapter 
753,  2d  session,  which  provides: 

Be  it  enacted  by  the  Senate  and  House  of  Representatives  of  (he  United  States 
of  America  in  Congress  assembled,   *  *  * 

PART  2— RULES  OF  THE  HOUSE  OF  REPRESENTATIVES 

Rule  X 

SEC.   121.    STANDING    COMMITTEES 
******* 

17.  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities,  to  consist  of  nine  members. 

Rule  XI 

POWERS    AND    DUTIES    OF    COMMITTEES 
*****  4:  4c 

(q)    (1)   Committee  on  Un-American  Activities. 

(A)   Un-American  activities. 

(2)  The  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities,  as  a  whole  or  by  subcommit- 
tee, is  authorized  to  make  from  time  to  time  investigations  of  (i)  the  extent, 
character,  and  objects  of  un-American  propaganda  activities  in  the  United  States, 
(ii)  the  diffusion  within  the  United  States  of  subversive  and  un-American  propa- 
ganda that  is  instigated  from  foreign  countries  or  of  a  domestic  origin  and  attacks 
the  principle  of  the  form  of  government  as  guaranteed  by  our  Constitution,  and 
(iii)  all  other  questions  in  relation  thereto  that  would  aid  Congress  in  any  necessary 
remedial  legislation. 

The  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  shall  report  to  the  House  (or  to  the 
Clerk  of  the  House  if  the  House  is  not  in  session)  the  results  of  any  such  investi- 
gation, together  with  such  recommendations  as  it  deems  advisable. 

For  the  purpose  of  any  such  investigation,  the  Committee  on  Un-American 
Activities,  or  any  subcommittee  thereof,  is  authorized  to  sit  and  act  at  such 
times  and  places  within  the  United  States,  whether  or  not  the  House  is  sitting, 
has  recessed,  or  has  adjourned,  to  hold  such  hearings,  to  require  the  attendance 
of  such  witnesses  and  the  production  of  such  books,  papers,  and  documents,  and 
to  take  such  testimony,  as  it  deems  necessary.  Subpenas  may  be  issued  under 
the  signature  of  the  chairman  of  the  committee  or  any  subcommittee,  or  by  any 
member  designated  by  any  such  chairman,  and  may  be  served  by  any  person 
designated  by  any  such  chairman  or  member. 


RULES  ADOPTED  BY  THE  84TH  CONGRESS 

House  Resolution  5,  January  5,  1955 

******* 

Rule  X 

STANDING    COMMITTEES 

1.  There  shall  be  elected  by  the  House,  at  the  commencement  of  each  Con 
ress,  the  following  standing  committees: 

******* 
(q)   Committee  on  Un-American  Activities,  to  consist  of  nine  members. 


*  *  * 


* 
Rule  XI 

POWERS    AND    DUTIES    OF    COMMITTEES 


17.  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities. 

(a)  Un-American  Activities.  ,    ,         ,         u  -4-*- 

(b)  The  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities,  as  a  whole  or  by  subcommittee, 
is  authorized  to  make  from  time  to  time,  investigations  of  (^)^the  extent  char- 
acter and  obiects  of  un-American  propaganda  activities  in  the  United  btates, 
(2)  the  diffusion  within  the  United  States  of  subversive  and  un-American  prop- 
aganda that  is  instigated  from  foreign  countries  or  of  a  domestic  origin  and 
attacks  the  principle  of  the  form  of  government  as  guaranteed  by  our  Constitu- 
tion, and  (3)  all  other  questions  in  relation  thereto  that  would  aid  Congress 
in  any  necessarv  remedial  legislation.  ^  .l    xi     tt  /      +^  +i^^ 

The  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  shall  report  to  the  House  (or  to  trie 
Clerk  of  the  House  if  the  House  is  not  in  session)  the  results  of  any  such  investi- 
gation  together  with  such  recommendations  as  it  deems  advisable. 

For  the  purpose  of  any  such  investigation,  the  Committee  on  Un-American 
Activities,  or  anv  subcommittee  thereof,  is  authorized  to  sit  and  act  at  such  times 
and  places  within  the  United  States,  whether  or  not  the  House  is  sitting,  has 
recessed,  or  has  adjourned,  to  hold  such  hearings,  to  require  the  attendance 
of  such  witnesses  and  the  production  of  such  books,  papers,  and  documents,  and 
to  take  such  testimonv,  as  it  deems  necessary.  Subpenas  may  be  issued  under 
the  signature  of  the  chairman  of  the  committee  or  any  subcommittee,  or  by  any 
member  designated  by  such  chairman,  and  may  be  served  by  any  person  desig- 
nated by  any  such  chairman  or  member. 


INVESTIGATION  OF  COMMUNIST  ACTIVITIES  IN  THE 

OHIO  AREA 

(Testimony  of  Keve  Bray) 


WEDNESDAY,   JULY    13,    1955 

United  States  House  of  Representatives, 

Subcommittee  of  the  Committee 

ON  Un-American  Activities, 

Washington,  D.  C. 
PUBLIC  hearing 

The  subcommittee  of  the  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities 
met,  pursuant  to  call,  at  11:45  a.  m.,  in  the  caucus  room.  Old  House 
Office  Building,  Hon.  Francis  E.  Walter  (chairman)  presiding. 

Committee  members  present:  Representatives  Francis  E.  Walter, 
Clyde  Doyle,  and  James  B.  Frazier,  Jr. 

Staff  members  present:  Frank  S.  Tavenner,  Jr.,  counsel. 

The  Chairman.  The  subcommittee  will  be  in  order. 

Will  you  call  your  witness,  Mr.  Tavenner. 

Air.  Tavenner.  Mr.  Bray,  will  you  come  forward,  please. 

The  Chairman.  Will  you  raise  jour  right  hand,  please. 

Do  yon  swear  the  testimony  you  are  about  to  give  shall  be  the  truth, 
the  whole  truth,  and  nothingbiit  the  truth,  so  help  you  God? 

Mr.  Bray.  I  do. 

The  Chairman.  You  may  be  seated. 

TESTIMONY  OF  KEVE  BRAY 

Mr.  Tavenner.  What  is  your  name,  please,  sir. 

Mr.  Bray.  Keve  Bray,  K-e-v-e  B-r-a-y. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  It  is  noted  that  you  are  not  accompanied  by 
counsel.  It  is  the  practice  of  the  committee  to  advise  all  witnesses 
that  they  are  entitled  to  counsel  if  they  so  desire,  or  that  they  have 
the  right  to  confer  with  counsel  during  tlie  course  of  their  testimony 
if  they  so  desire.     You  understand  that,  do  you  not? 

Mr.  Bray.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Mr.  Bray,  what  other  names  have  you  been 
known  by,  other  than  the  name  of  Keve  Bray? 

Mr.  Bray.  I  have  not  been  known  by,  to  my  knowledge,  any 
other  name  except  Keve  Bray. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Have  vou  had  nicknames  from  time  to  time? 

Mr.  Bray.  Yes. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  What  are  they? 

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Mr.  Bray.  I  don't  know  whether  you  would  call  them  nicknames 
or  not,  but  it  has  been  spelled  these  various  different  ways:  K-e-v-i-e, 
K-e-y-v-i-e,  and  various  other  ways. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Have   vou   been   known   by   the   name   of   Kay, 

K-a-y?  ^  ,        t^       V, 

Mr.  Bray.  I  have  not  been  known,  to  my  knowledge,  by  that 
name.  Somebody  might  call  me  Kay  Bray,  for  example,  but  I 
don't  recall  the  K-a-y. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Have  you  been  known  by  the  name  of  Peter? 

Mr.  Bray.  No. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Or  by  the  name  of  Jap,  J-a-p? 

Mr.  Bray.  Well,  I  haven't  been  known  by  that  name,  but  when  I 
was  in  junior  high  school  that  was  the  nickname  that  was  given  to 
me  for  a  short  period  of  time. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Did  you  at  any  time  use  the  name  of  Kay  or 
Peter? 

Mr.  Bray.  I  don't  recall  that  I  ever  used  that  name.  I  am  certam 
that  I  never  used  the  name  Peter.  I  don't  recall  having  used  the 
name. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  When  and  where  were  you  born,  Mr.  Bray? 

Mr.  Bray.  I  was  born  in  Massillon,  Ohio. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  What  date? 

Mr.  Bray.  June  9,  1925. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Where  do  you  now  reside? 

Mr.  Bray.  In  Massillon. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Wliat  is  your  occupation  or  profession? 

Mr.  Bray.  Teacher. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Are  you  a  teacher  in  public  schools? 

Mr.  Bray.  Yes. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Will  a'ou  tell  the  committee,  please,  wliat  your 
formal  educational  training  has  been? 

Mr.  Bray.  I  graduated  from  the  University  of  Colorado. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  What  degree  did  you  receive? 

Mr.  Bray.  B.  A.  degree,  and  some • 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Will  vou  give  us  the  date? 

Mr.  Bray.  1952. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Where  is  the  University  of  Colorado  located,  m 
what  city? 

Mr.  Bray.  Boulder. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Boulder,  Colo.  How  many  years  did  you  attend 
the  University  of  Colorado? 

Mr.  Bray.  About  2  years;  2  or  3  years. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Did"^  you  have  any  college  work  prior  to  going  to 
the  University  of  Colorado? 

Mr.  Bray.  Yes. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  What  was  that? 

Mr.  Bray.  I  started  to  college  at  Miami  University  in  Oxford,  Ohio. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  In  what  year? 

Mr.  Bray.  1946.     And  I  went  to  Arizona  State  College. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  How  long  were  you  at  Miami  University? 

Mr.  Bray.  About  a  year. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  From  there  vou  went ■ 

Mr.  Bray.  To  Arizona  State  College.     That  was  about  a  semester. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  One  semester  in  1947? 


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COMMUNIST    ACTIVITIES    EST    THE    OHIO    AREA  1421 

Mr.  Bray.  In  1947.     From  there  to  Colorado  College  about  1  year 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Wliere  is  Colorado  College  located? 

Mr.  Bray.  Colorado  Springs. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  What  year  would  that  be,  1948  or  1947? 

Mr.  Bray.   1948. 

And  from  there  to  the  University  of  Colorado  in  1949. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Does  that  complete  your  educational  traininp-? 

Mr.  Bray.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Were  you  in  the  Armed  Forces  of  the  United 
States? 

Mr.  Bray.  Yes. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Tell  the  committee  briefly  over  what  period  and 
in  which  branch  of  the  Armed  Forces  you  served. 

Mr.  Bray.  I  went  in  the  Navy  in  1943  and  served  until  1946  about 
3  years.  ' 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Then  j'^ou  entered  Miami  University  almost  at  the 
time  you  returned  from  the  service? 

Mr.  Bray.  Yes. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Prior  to  1943,  how  were  you  employed? 

Mr.  Bray.  I  went  to  elementary  school. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Where  did  you  attend  school? 

Mr.  Bray.  At  Massillon  High  School,  Massillon,  Ohio. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  During  the  period  you  were  with  the  University  of 
Colorado,  which  was  from  1947  to  1952,  where  did  you  reside? 

Mr.  Bray.  In  the  dormitories  on  the  campus,  and  at  Spruce  Street 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Is  Spruce  Street  off  campus? 

Mr.  Bray.  Yes.     I  hved  off  the  campus 

Mr.  Tavenner.  What  was  your  address  on  Spruce  Street*? 

Mr.  Bray.  I  believe  it  was  1002. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Will  you  tell  the  committee  when  you  first  took 
up  your  residence  at  that  address  and  when  you  left  it? 

Mr.  Bray.  As  far  as  I  can  remember,  it  was  about  in  1950  that  I 
began  to  reside  on  Spruce  Street,  and  I  left  there  about  1952. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Can  you  give  the  months  of  the  year  when  you  took 
up  the  address  and  terminated  it? 

Mr.  Bray.  I  cannot  give  the  months.     It  wasn't  important  to  me 
and  I  didn't  remember  it. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Prior  to  your  work  at  the  University  of  Colorado 
were  you  at  Miami  Universitv  at  Oxford,  Ohio'?  ' 

Mr.  Bray.  Yes. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Where  did  you  live  at  Oxford? 

Mr.  Bray.  I  don't  remember  the  number,  but  I  lived  on  North 
Campus  Avenue,  at  a,  home. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Could  that  have  been  323? 

Mr.  Bray.  That  doesn't  sound  like  it,  no.     It  was  9-something. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  But  it  was  on  North  Campus  Avenue*? 

Mr.  Bray.  Yes. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Prior  to  that,  were  you  at  Arizona  State  College? 

Mr.  Bray.  Yes. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Where  is  that  located? 

Mr.  Bray.  Tempe,  Ariz. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  How  far  is  that  from  Phoenix? 

Mr.  Bray.  About  13  miles. 

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1422  COMMUNIST   ACTIVITIES    EST    THE    OHIO    AREA 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Where  did  you  reside  while  at  Arizona  State  Col- 
lege? 

Mr.  Bray.  I  resided  in  Phoenix  at  Dr.  Wormley's  residence.    I  don't 
remember  the  address. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Do  you  remember  the  name  of  the  street? 

Mr.  Bray.  I  think  it  was  Washington  Street. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  East  or  West? 

Mr.  Bray.  I  don't  remember  the  direction. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Prior  to  that  you  were  at  Colorado  College  at 
Colorado  Springs,  is  that  correct? 

Mr.  Bray.  Yes;  at  Colorado  Springs. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Where  did  you  reside  while  at  Colorado  Springs? 

Mr.  Bray.  I  believe  it  was,  733  Corona  Street. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Did  you  reside  at  some  other  address,  also,  in 
Colorado  Springs? 

Mr.  Bray.  Some  place  on  Weber  Street.  I  don't  remember  what 
the  address  was. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Do  you  recah  living  at  any  other  place  in  Colorado 
Springs? 

Mr.  Bray.  Yes.     I  lived  on  El  Paso  Street. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  What  address? 

Mr.  Bray.  I  don't  remember  that  one,  either. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Do  you  think  823  North  El  Paso  Street  may  be 
correct? 

Mr.  Bray.  That  sounds  like  it. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Where  do  you  presently  reside  in  Massillon? 

Mr.  Bray.  In  Massillon,  I  reside  at  732  Fourth  Street. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  What  other  addresses  have  you  had  in  Massillon? 

Mr.  Bray.  My  home  prior  to  that  was  909  Johnson  Street. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  The  committee  has  just  returned  from  southern 
Cahfornia  where  it  received  considerable  evidence  regarding  the 
activities  of  the  Southern  California  Peace  Crusade  which  functioned 
as  a  branch  of  the  American  Peace  Crusade.  I  would  like  to  ask  you 
whether  or  not  you  were  a  member  of  or  affiliated  in  any  way  with  the 
American  Peace  Crusade  while  you  were  at  Boulder,  Colo.,  that  is, 
during  the  period  you  were  a  student  at  the  University  of  Colorado. 

Mr.  Bray.  I  don't  recall  that  I  have  been  a  member  of  the  Peace 
Crusade  m  Colorado. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  You  were  active,  however,  were  you  not,  in  the 
activities  of  the  Boulder  Peace  Council  at  Boulder,  Colo.? 

Mr.  Bray.  No,  I  wouldn't  say  that  I  was  active  in  the  Boulder 
Peace  Conference. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Wliat  w^as  the  extent  of  your  participation  in  the 
work  of  that  organization? 

Mr.  Bray.  I  didn't  have  any  idea  that  it  operated  as  an  organiza- 
tion.    I  only  know  that  I  attended  a  peace  congress  in  Chicago. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  That  was  in  June  of  1951,  wasn't  it? 

Mr.  Bray.  Yes. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  You  attended  as  a  delegate,  didn't  you? 

Mr.  Bray.  No,  I  didn't  attend  as  a  delegate. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  What  were  the  circumstances  under  which  you 
attended? 

Mr.  Bray.  I  attended  because  I  had  become  aware  that  Paul 
Robeson  was  going  to  sing  at  this  congress,  and  my  interest  was 
aroused  and  stimulated  to  attend. 


COMMUNIST    ACTIVITIES    EST    THE    OHIO    AREA  1423 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Wasn't  your  interest  also  aroused  because  of  your 
work  with  the  Boulder  Peace  Council  in  Boulder? 

Mr.  Bray.  No.  I  had  no  knowledge  of  the  Peace  Council  as  you 
refer  to  it,  up  until  the  time  that  I  had  heard  about  the  congress  in 
Chicago. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Do  you  recall  the  occasion  of  a  caucus  meeting  of 
the  Boulder  Peace  Council  delegates  at  Boulder,  Colo.,  on  June  27 
1951,  when  the  group  of  delegates  got  together  and  caucused  at  the 
home  ot  Jake  Saucedo,  S-a-u-c-e-d-o? 

Mr.  Bray.  I  wouldn't  say  that  I  recall  that  I  was  attending  a  meet- 
ing of  delegates.     The  impression  that  I  had  gathered  was  that  it  was 
a  party,  and  that  is  the  basis  on  which  I  attended.     Since  I  knew  them 
I  had  no  question  as  to  what  it  was.     On  the  campus  we  did  have  a 
great  many  parties. 

Mr  Tavenner.  It  was  a  meeting  of  delegates  to  the  peace  congress 
to  be  held  m  Chicago,  was  it  not? 

Mr.  Bray.  I  have  learned  that  to  be  so,  I  suppose. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  How  did  it  happen  that  vou  were  invited  to  this 
meeting  of  delegates  if  you  were  not  also  a  delegate? 

Mr.  Bray.  I  don't  recall  that  I  was  even  invited.  I  just  appeared 
there.  I  wasn't  invited,  but  I  happened  to  know  Saucedo  well  enough 
to  drop  in,  but  I  had  no  awareness 

Mr.  Tavenner.  How  did  you  know  this  meeting  was  to  be  held  at 
Saucedo 's? 

Mr  Bray.  I  didn't  know.  I  just  knew  of  a  partv  being  held,  and  I 
attended.  It  wasn't  unusual  for  me  to  stop  in,  since  they  were  stu- 
dents at  the  university  and  I  knew  them. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Had  you  decided  prior  to  that  time,  or  was  it  after 
that  time,  that  you  would  go  to  the  peace  congress  in  Chicago? 

Mr.  Bray.  It  was  well  after  that  time  because,  as  a  matter  of  fact, 
It  was  the  day  that  they  were  readv  to  leave  that  I  decided   changed 
my  nimd  when  I  heard  that  Mr.  Robeson  was  going  to  appear  there 
that  I  decided  to  go.  »         i-r  , 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Do  you  mean  j^ou  decided  that  day? 

Mr.  Bray.  The  day  that  they  were  to  leave. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Did  you  make  your  decision  after  or  before  this 
meeting? 

Mr.  Bray.  After. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  How  long  was  it  after  this  meeting  on  June  27 
that  you  departed  for  Chicago? 

Mr.  Bray.  I  beheve  that  it  was  about  2  days.     I  am  not  sure. 

Mr  Tavenner.  Did  you  accompany  the  other  delegates  from 
Boulder? 

Mr.  Bray.  I  went  with  the  Saucedo's. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  The  Saucedo's  were  not  students  at  the  universitv 
were  they?  -^ ' 

Mr.  Bray.  Yes. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  They  were  students  at  that  time*^ 

Mr.  Bray.  Yes. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Will  you  tell  the  committee,  please,  what  the 
purpose  ot  the  meeting  was,  which  was  held  on  June  27  at  Jake  Sau- 
cedo's home? 

Mr.  Bray.  As  I  said,  I  had  the  impression  that  it  was  a  party, 
but  I  have  since-  gathered  that  it  was  gathered  together  to  raise 
money  for  going  to  Chicago, 


1424  COMMUNIST    ACTIVITIES    EST    THE    OHIO    AREA 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Did  you  find  that  out  at  the  meeting? 

•Mr.  Bray.  I  don't  remember  that  I  did.  I  know  on  several 
occasions  the  type  of  gathering  that  was  held,  it  was  in  the  same 
fashion,  but  I  couldn't  say  that  I  really  knew,  because  I  hadn't 
made  up  my  mind  to  go. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Was  there  anything  secret  about  this  meeting  of 
the  delegates  to  the  peace  congress? 

Mr.  Bray.  It  wasn't  secret  at  all. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  I  don't  understand  what  you  mean  by  saying  you 
later  found  out  certain  things  about  it. 

Mr.  Bray.  Sometimes  one  may  not  always  know  when  going  to  a 
party  exactly,  especially  if  he  is  an  individual  such  as  myself  who 
might  stop  in,  as  I  did.  I  just  didn't  have  any  real  thought  as  to 
what  type  of  meeting  it  was,  or  I  didn't  care  what  type  of  meeting 
it  was. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  But  after  you  got  there,  you  quickly  found  out 
what  it  was,  didn't  you? 

Mr.  Bray.  I  wouldn't  say  I  quickly  found  out.  I  think  that  I 
found  out  money  was  being  raised  for  a  purpose.  I  will  say  that. 
That  is  as  much  as  I  can  remember  that  I  actually  felt  at  that  time. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  What  other  matters  were  discussed  relating  to 
the  Peace  Council  besides  the  raising  of  funds? 

Mr.  Bray.  At  that  time  I  don't  recall  that  anything  else  was  dis- 
cussed, because  that  is  probablj^^  the  reason  why  I  hadn't  decided  to 
go,  because  I  don't  recall  that  an5'thmg  was  discussed  at  all.  I 
didn't  remain  there  until  the  close  of  the  meeting. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Was  Jake  Saucedo  the  leader  of  this  group? 

Mr.  Bray.  I  don't  know.     I  don't  really  know  who  was  the  leader. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  How  long  had  you  known  Jake  Saucedo? 

Mr.  Bray.  Oh,  I  had  known  him  for  about  3  months  prior  to  that, 
I  believe. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  WTiat  were  the  circumstances  under  which  you 
met  him? 

Mr.  Bray.  I  think  it  was  just  on  the  campus  at  the  Student  Union 
Building. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Did  vou  laiow  him  as  a  member  of  the  Communist 
Party? 

Mr.  Bray.  No,  I  didn't  know  him  as  a  member  of  the  Communist 
Party. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Was  he  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party,  to 
your  knowledge? 

Mr.  Bray.  I  don't  recall  that  he  was  a  member  of  the  Communist 
Party.     In  fact,  I  don't  know. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Let  us  put  it  this  way:  You  may  not  have  seen 
his  Communist  Party  card  or  have  seen  him  pay  dues  or  anything  of 
that  nature,  but  did  you  ever  attend  a  Communist  Party  meeting 
with  him?  Or  let  us  put  it  this  way:  Were  you  ever  at  a  Communist 
Party  meeting  at  which  he  was  present? 

Mr.  Bray.  I  don't  recall  ever  having  gone  to  a  Communist  Party 
meeting  as  such. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Did  he  ever  discuss  with  you  activities  of  the 
Communist  Party  in  which  he  was  engaged? 

Mr.  Bray.  He  has  never  discussed  anything  with  me  pertaining  to 
the  Communist  Party. 


COMMUNIST    ACTIVITIES    IN    THE    OHIO    AREA  1425 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Were  any  of  the  persons  at  that  meeting  of 
delegates  of  the  Boulder  Peace  Council  Imown  to  vou  to  be  members 
of  the  Communist  Party? 

Mr.  Bray.  No,  I  don't  recall  if  anyone  there — I  won't  say  I  don't 
recall.  I  am  sure  that  I  don't  know  anyone  who  was  there  who  was 
a  member  of  the  Communist  Party. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  You  attended  the  peace  congress  which  met  in 
Chicago  in  June  1951.  Wliile  there  did  you  meet  a  person  by  the 
name  of  Peter  Hyun,  H-y-u-n,  from  Los  Angeles? 

Mr.  Bray.  I  don't  recall  meeting  a  Peter  Hyun  from  Los  Angeles. 
Mr.  Tavenner.  Had  you  met  Peter  Hyun  prior  to  that  time? 
Mr.  Bray.  No.     I  don't  recall  ever  meeting  any  such  person. 
Mr.  Tavenner.  Peter  Hyun  was  the  executive  secretarv   of   the 
Southern  California  Peace  Crusade  and  was  verv  active  in  that  area 
of  the  country.    I  understand  you  never  had  occasion  to  meet  him. 
Mr.  Bray.  No;  not  to  my  recollection. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Immediately  after  the  peace  congress  in  Chicago, 
a  convention  was  held  in  Chicago  of  delegates  from  the  Independent 
Progressive  Party.     Many  of  the  peace  delegates  stayed  over  for 
that  convention.    Did  you? 
Mr.  Bray.  No. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  After  you  attended  this  convention,  did  you  con- 
tinue in  the  same  way  with  the  Peace  Council  in  Boulder  that  you 
had  prior  to  the  convention,  or  did  you  become  more  active? 

Mr.  Bray.  I  was  never  active  in  the  Peace  Council.  As  I  said,  I 
went  primarily  to  hear  Mr.  Robeson.  Following  that  time  I  had  no 
awareness  of  the  existence  of  the  Peace  Council  in  Boulder. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Did  you  attend  the  national  convention  of  the 
National  Negro  Labor  Council  at  Cleveland,  Ohio,  in  November  1952? 
Mr.  Bray.  No;  I  did  not. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Were  you  at  any  time  made  a  deles:ate  to  that 
convention,  although  you  did  not  attend? 

Mr.  Bray.  I  wasn't  aware  that  I  was  a  delegate  to  that  convention. 
Mr.  Tavenner.  How  did  vou  become  emploved  after  leaving  the 
University  of  Colorado  in  1952? 

Mr.  Bray.  I  was  employed  in  the  Denver  public  schools. 
Mr.  Tavenner.  What  is  the  name  of  the  school? 
Air.  Bray.  Cole  Junior  High  School. 
Mr.  Tavenner.  How  long  were  you  employed  there? 
Mr.  Bray.  About  a  year. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Did  you  begin  your  employment  at  Cole  Junior 
High  in  the  fall  of  1952? 

Mr.  Bray.  Began  in  the  fall  of  1953. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  How  were  vou  emploved  between  the  time  of  vour 
graduation  in  1952  and  the  fall  of  1953?' 

Mr.  Bray.  I  took  graduate  work  at  the  University  of  Colorado. 
Mr.  Tavenner.  You  didn't  tell  us  that  to  begin  with. 
Mr.  Bray.  I  was  going  to,  and  you  went  on. 
Mr.  Tavenner.  How  long  did  your  graduate  work  last? 
Mr.  Bray.  I  believe  it  was  about  a  year.     I  was  just  enrolled  in 
some  courses. 

Mr  Tavenner.  Did  you  have  any  employment  between  the  time 
of  the  completion  of  your  graduate  work  and  taking  up  your  school 
duties  in  the  fall  of  1953? 


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Mr.  Bray.  I  didn't  have  any  employment  between  that  time.  I 
had  done  a  little  teaching  in  a  rural  community. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  What  community? 

Mr.  Bray.  Pleasant  View. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  In  Colorado? 

Mr.  Bray.  Yes. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Where  did  you  spend  the  summer  of  1953? 

Mr.  Bray.  In  Denver. 

The  Chairman.  I  think  we  will  recess  at  this  point  until  2:30. 

(Whereupon,  at  12:20  p.  m.,  the  subcommittee  recessed,  to  recon- 
vene at  2:30  p.  m.,  of  the  same  day.) 

after  recess 

(The  subcommittee  reconvened  at  2:30  p.  m.  Committee  members 
present  were  Representatives  Walter  and  Frazier.) 

The  Chairman.  The  committee  will  be  in  order. 

Let  the  record  show  that  a  subcommittee  consisting  of  Messrs. 
Frazier,  Velde,  and  Walter  has  been  designated  to  continue  this 
hearing,  and  that  a  majority  of  the  subcommittee  are  present. 

Will  you  raise  your  right  hand,  please.  Do  you  swear  the  testimony 
you  are  about  to  give  shall  be  the  truth,  the  whole  truth,  and  nothing 
but  the  truth,  so  help  you  God? 

Mr.  Bray.  I  do. 

TESTIMONY  OF  KEVE  BRAY— Resumed 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Mr.  Bray,  will  you  tell  the  committee,  please, 
whether  or  not  you  became  a  member  of  or  affiliated  with  an  organi- 
zation known  as  the  Young  Progressives  of  America  at  any  time  while 
you  resided  in  Colorado? 

Mr.  Bray.  I  was  never  a  member  of  the  Young  Progressive  organi- 
zation while  I  resided  in  Colorado  or  at  any  other  place. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Did  you  participate  in  the  work  of  that  organi- 
zation? 

Mr.  Bray.  No.  I  do  remember  going  to  one  of  their  meetings,  but 
I  don't  recall  participating  in  any  of  the  work  of  the  organization. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Wlien  and  where  was  that  meeting  held  which  you 
attended? 

Mr.  Bray.  In  the  Student  Union  Building  of  the  University  of 
Colorado. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  In  what  year  was  that  meeting  held? 

Mr.  Bray.  I  believe  that  was  1951. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  There  was  an  organization,  then,  of  the  Young 
Progressives  of  America  at  the  University  of  Colorado? 

Mr.  Bray.  Yes. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  The  committee  received  sworn  testimony  during 
its  hearings  in  Michigan  in  May  1954  to  the  effect  that  the  youth 
group  of  the  Communist  Party  was  assigned  to  various  organizations, 
including  the  Young  Progressives  of  America,  and  that  in  Michigan 
the  officials  of  that  organization  were  members  of  the  Communist 
Party  who  had  been  affiliated  with  the  youth  group  of  the  Communist 
Party. 


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COMMUNIST   ACTIVITIES    IN    THE    OHIO    AREA  1427 

Will  you  tell  the  committee,  please,  whether  at  the  University  of 
Colorado  any  of  the  officers  of  the  Young  Progressives  of  America 
were  persons  known  to  you  to  be  members  of  the  Communist  Party? 

Mr.  Bray.  I  don't  have  any  proof  of  m.embers  of  the  Young  Progres- 
sives that  were,  but  there  was  only  one  individual  who  was  considered 
by  people  generally.  I  have  no  proof.  I  couldn't  say,  myself, 
personally. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  I  will  not  ask  you  to  state  in  pubhc  session  what 
you  heard  or  what  was  generally  understood,  but  I  may  want  to  ask 
you  about  that  in  closed  session  of  the  committee. 

Did  you  become  a  member  of  or  affiliated  with  the  Independent 
Progressive  Party  while  living  in  Colorado? 

Mr.  Bray.  No,  I  was  never  a  member  of  the  Independent  Progres- 
sive Party.     I  don't  think  I  know  exactly  what  it  is  or  what  it  was. 
_    Mr.  Tavenner.  The  Independent  Progressive  Party  was  organized 
m  1948  throughout  the  country  generally.     I  wanted  to  inquire  as  to 
what  Imowledge  you  had  of  its  organization  in  the  State  of  Colorado. 

Mr.  Bray.  I  had  no  1-mowledge  at  all.  I  knew  that  it  existed,  but 
as  close  as  I  ever  got  to  the  Progressive  Party  was  a  meeting  that  I 
spoke  of,  of  the  Young  Progressives.  But  over  and  beyond  that, 
I  don't  have  any  knowledge  or  had  no  loiowledge  and  have  no  Imowl- 
edge. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Do  you  have  any  knowledge  of  leaders  of  the 
Progressive  Party  in  Colorado  being  members  of  the  Communist 
Party? 

Mr.  Bray.  No,  I  don't  have  any  knowledge  of  that.  I  know  of 
several  people  who  have  been  indicted,  but  I  don't  know  whether  they 
were  connected  with  the  Progressive  Party  or  not. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Did  you  have  knowledge  of  your  own,  of  the 
Communist  Party  membership  of  the  individuals  that  you  referred  to? 

Mr  Bray.  No  knowledge  of  my  own.  You  mean  of  the  recent 
individuals  we  have  mentioned? 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Yes. 

Mr.  Bray.  No  knowledge  of  my  own. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Did  you  ever  sit  in  a  Communist  Party  meetine: 
with  any  of  them?  ^ 

Mr.  Bray.  No.  I  have  never  known  that  I  was  at  a  Communist 
Party  meeting,  or  I  should  say  I  have  never  been  at  a  Communist 
Party  meeting  or  been  aware  that  I  was  at  a  Communist  Party  meeting 
as  such.  ^ 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Do  you  recall  where  this  meeting  was  held  which 
you  referred  to  as  having  attended? 

Mr.  Bray.  The  Young  Progressive  meeting  that  was  held,  if  that  is 
the  one  you  refer  to,  was  held  in  one  of  the  rooms  of  the  Student 
Union  Building. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Are  you  acquainted  with  Mr.  William  Morris,  Sr.. 
M-o-r-r-i-s? 

Mr.  Bray.  I  don't  know  whether  I  am  or  not. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Did  you  attend  a  Progressive  Party  meeting  in  his 

Mr.  Bray.  No.     Who  is  Mr.  Morris? 

Mr.  Tavenner.  As  far  as  you  know,  vou  don't  recall  the  individual? 

Mr.  Bray.  No. 


1428  COMMUNIST    ACTIVITIES    IN    THE    OHIO    AREA 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Did  you  attend  a  meeting  of  the  Progressive 
Party  on  May  26,  1950,  at  2244  15th  Street,  Boulder,  Colo.? 

Mr.  Bray.  No,  I  don't  recall  attending  a  Progressive  Party  meeting 
at  that  address. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  You  say  you  don't  recall.  May  I  ask  you  to  state 
whether  or  not  you  did  attend  such  a  meeting? 

Mr.  Bray.  Since  I  have  no  recollection  of  it,  I  would  be  forced  to 
say  no,  because  I  can't  recall,  and  therefore  my  answer  would  be  no. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Has  a  person  by  the  name  of  Wilham  Morris,  Sr. 
been  entertained  by  you  in  your  home? 

Mr.  Bray.  No.  ^ 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Are  you  acquainted  with  Harry  A.  Lawson? 

Mr,  Bray.  Yes. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Did  Harry  A.  Lawson  at  any  time,  more  par- 
ticularly on  September  16,  1950,  attend  a  meeting  or  function  of  any 
character  in  your  home? 

Mr.  Bray.  I  don't  recall  that  he  did  on  this  particular  date,  but 
he  has  on  several  occasions  come  to  my  home. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Was  he  a  person  known  to  you  to  be  a  member  of 
the  Communist  Party? 

Mr.  Bray.  He  wasn't.  I  would  say  as  far  as  I  knew,  he  was  not  a 
member  of  the  Communist  Party. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Were  you  a  member  of  or  affiliated  with  the  Civil 
Rights  Congress  while  living  in  Colorado? 

Mr.  Bray.  No,  I  was  not  a  member  or  affiliated  with  the  Civil 
Rights  Congress. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Did  you  attend  a  Civil  Rights  Congress  meeting  at 
2540  Washington  Street,  Denver,  Colo.,  on  January  26,  1951? 

Mr.  Bray.  I  did  attend  one  meeting  of  the  Civil  Rights  Congress. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Was  that  meeting  held  the  time  and  place  which 
I  mentioned? 

Mr.  Bray.  Would  you  repeat  that,  please? 

Mr.  Tavenner.  2540  Washington  Street,  Denver,  Colo.,  and  the 
date,  January  26,  1951. 

Mr.  Bray.  Washington  Street  was  not  the  place. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Will  you  state  what  the  correct  address  was  of  the 
meeting? 

Mr.  Bray.  I  don't  exactly  know  the  street,  but  I  know  it  was  in 
what  they  call  Five  Points  in  Denver.  The  Five  Points  area.  It  was 
on  one  of  the  Five  Points. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  What  was  the  date  of  the  meeting? 

Mr.  Bray.  I  don't  know  the  date,  but  I  recall  that  the  time  was 
later  than  1951. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Do  you  mean  the  meeting  did  not  occur  in  1951? 

Mr.  Bray.  No. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Then  you  did  not  attend  a  meeting  of  the  Civil 
Rights  Congress  during  the  year  1951? 

Mr.  Bray.  No. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  What  was  the  purpose  of  the  meeting  which  you 
attended  at  a  date  later  than  1951? 

Mr.  Bray.  I  arrived  at  the  meeting  not  knowing — I  was  always 
the  victim  of  going  someplace  and  not  knowing  what  was  going  to 
happen  or  where  I  was  going,  and  this  was  one  of  the  occasions.  As 
much  as  I  could  get  out  of  this  particular  meeting,  discussions  were 


COMMUNIST   ACTIVITIES    IN   THE    OHIO    AREA  1429 

being  held  on  various  issues,  one  of  which  I  remember  being  civil 
rights,  race  relations,  and  whatnot.  That  is  the  extent  of  what  I 
got  out  of  the  meeting.     I  don't  recall  more. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Do  you  know  who  the  officers  of  the  Civil  Rights 
Cono;ress  were  at  that  time? 

Mr.  Bray.  I  don't  know  who  the  officers  were.  I  was  invited  to 
go  to  Denver  with  the  Saucedos,  and  it  was  entirely  new  to  me. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Did  you  accompany  them  to  this  meeting? 

Mr.  Bray.  Yes,  I  went  with  them. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  What  was  the  approximate  date  of  the  meeting? 

Mr.  Bray.  The  date  was  1952,  as  far  as  I  can  remember. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Wliat  was  Mr.  Saucedo's  fii^st  name? 

Mr.  Bray.  Jesus. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Will  3'Ou  spell  it,  please? 

Mr.  Bray.  J-e-s-u-s. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Wliat  was  his  wife's  name? 

Mr.  Bray.  Judy. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Did  either  Mr.  or  Mrs.  Saucedo  at  any  time  solicit 
your  membership  in  the  Communist  Party? 

Mr.  Bray.  No,  they  never  sohcited  my  interest  in  the  Communist 
Party. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Are  you  famihar  with  the  establishment  of  a  fund 
entitled  the  Ethnic  Minoritv  Scholarship  Fund^ 

Mr.  Bray.  Yes. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Did  you  ever  discuss  the  operation  of  that  fund 
with  Mr.  Saucedo? 

Mr.  Bray.  I  don't  recall.  I  am  sure  that  I  have  discussed  some- 
tlnng  about  the  fund  to  him  at  some  time  or  another.  I  don't  recall 
that  It  was  any  particular  occasion.  We  did  spend  a  lot  of  time 
tellmg  about  the  fund  to  various  people.  I  therefore  assume  that  he 
must  have  been  one  of  them. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Did  he  at  any  time  tell  j^ou  that  the  Communist 
Party  took  credit  for  the  success  that  the  fund  enjoyed? 

Mr.  Bray.  He  has  never  said  that  to  me.  I  believe  that  it  would 
have  been  something  that  I  would  have  remembered,  too. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Did  he  ever  make  that  statement  in  your  presence? 

Mr.  Bray.  No. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Were  scholarships  awarded  from  that  fund  to  the 
University  of  Colorado? 

Mr.  Bray.  You  mean  to  a  student  to  the  University  of  Colorado? 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Yes. 

Mr.  Bray.  Yes. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Do  you  know  of  any  Communist  Partv  participa- 
^^^^"/"^^^  furnishing  of  scholarships  to  the  University  of  Colorado? 

Mr.  Bray.  No,  I  do  not. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  I  was  asking  you  before  the  noon  recess  about 
work  that  you  did  during  the  summer  of  1952.  I  would  like  to  return 
to  that  subject. 

Were  you  employed  in  the  summer  of  1952,  and  if  so,  where? 
Mr.  Bray.  I  wasn't  employed  during  the  summer  of  1952.     I  was 
trying  to  remember.     I  had  been  employed  one  of  the  summers  by  a 
construction  company.     I  don't  remember  what  summer  it  was  that 
1  was  employed. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Where  were  you  employed? 


1430  COMMUNIST    ACTIVITIES    IN    THE    OHIO    AREA 

Mr.  Bray.  There  was  a  dam  being  built  near  Boulder,  up  near  what 
they  call  Green  Mountain,  and  I  was  employed  by  the  Macco  Con- 
struction Co. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Was  that  in  the  State  of  Colorado? 

Mr.  Bray.  Colorado. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Were  you  employed  at  the  San  Cristobal  Valley 
Ranch,  owned  by  Craig  Vincent,  in  the  summer  of  1952? 

Mr.  Bray.  Oh,  yes.     1952. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Will  you  tell  the  committee  the  chcumstances 
under  which  vou  received  that  employment? 

Mr.  Bray."  I  got  an  ad  from  one  of  the  Colorado  newspapers  and  I 
corresponded  with  this  ranch. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  With  whom  did  you  correspond? 

Mr.  Bray.  Craig  Vincent. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  As  a  result  of  which  you  became  employed? 

Mr.  Bray.  Yes. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  What  was  the  nature  of  j^our  emplo\Tnent? 

Mr.  Bray.  Just  a  counselor  of  children  and  participating  in  plays 
that  were  given. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Did  you  return  there  in  1953  for  emplo\Tnent  of 
the  same  character? 

Mr.  Bray.  No. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Were  vou  there  in  the  summer  of  1953? 

Mr.  Bray.  I  was  in  Taos,  N.  Mex.,  the  following  summer. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  How  far  is  that  from  the  San  Cristobal  Valley 
Ranch? 

Mr.  Bray.  About  13  miles,  approximately. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Did  you  visit  the  San  Cristobal  Valley  Ranch 
during  that  year? 

Mr.  Bray.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  For  what  purpose? 

Mr.  Bray.  When  I  was  there  the  first  time,  I  had  acquired  a  lot 
of  friends  dowTi  there,  and  I  spent  the  time  visiting  friends.  Some  of 
them  happened  to  be  at  the  ranch. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Will  you  tell  the  committee,  please,  whether  in  the 
summer  of  1952  when  you  were  employed  at  the  San  Cristobal  Valley 
Ranch,  any  member  or  members  of  the  Communist  Party,  that  is, 
persons  known  to  you  to  be  members  of  the  Communist  Party,  visited 
the  ranch? 

Mr.  Bray.  I  don't  recall  any  individuals  who  were  members  of  the 
Communist  Party.  Practically  all  of  the  people  were  seen  for  the 
first  time  by  me.  I  had  never  seen  any  of  them  before,  so  I  had  no 
knowledge  of  the  people.     It  was  a  new  experience  for  me. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Did  you  become  acquainted  there  with  any  persons 
who  were  members  of  the  Communist  Party? 

Mr.  Bray.  No,  I  did  not.  .  . 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Did  any  member  of  the  Communist  Party  visit 
you  while  you  were  at  that  ranch? 

Mr.  Bray.  They  did  not. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Did  Mr.  and  Mrs.  Saucedo  visit  you  m  July  of 
1953,  at  the  ranch? 

Mr.  Bray.  No,  thev  did  not. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Did  they  visit  you  at  the  place  you  were  staying? 

Mr.  Bray.  No. 


COMMUNIST    ACTIVITIES    IN    THE    OHIO    AREA  1431 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Did  you  see  them  in  New  Mexico  in  July  1953? 

Mr.  Bray.  Not  in  New  Mexico. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  San  Cristobal  Valley  Kanch  is  in  New  Mexico  is 
it  not?  ' 

Mr.  Bray.  Yes. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Wliere  did  you  see  them? 

Mr.  Bray.  I  saw  them  off  and  on  during  the  time  I  was  at 
Colorado 

Mr.  Tavenner.  But  I  am  speaking  of  the  summer  of  1953  You 
said  you  did  not  see  them  in  New  Mexico.  Where  did  vou  see  them 
in  the  summer  of  1953? 

Air.  Bray.  I  don't  recall  seeing   them  in   the   summer  of   1953 
When  1  was  employed  at  the  ranch,  they  came  to  the  ranch-  but  f 
don  t  recall  seeing  them  in  1953.  ' 

Mr.  Tavenner.  But  they  did  come  to  the  ranch  in  1952? 

Mr.  Bray.  When  I  was  employed  there. 
•    Mr  Tavenner.  What  was  the  purpose  of  their  visit  to  the  ranch 
in  1952? 

Mr.  Bray.  Just  visiting. 

Mr  Tavenner.  Did  they  attend  any  meetings  while  there,  to  your 

Mr.  Bray.  Not  to  my  knowledge.  At  the  time  I  was  there,  there 
were  no  meetings  that  I  attended  myself  that  were  not  pertaining  to 
the  operation  of  the  ranch. 

TVT^^^'o"^^^^^^^^,.  ^^^^^  ^^^  *li^  purpose  of  the  visit  of  Mr    and 
Mrs.  baucedo,  as  far  as  you  knew? 

Mr.  Bray.  The  Saucedos  were  on  a  vacation,  and  the  ranch  was  a 
place  where  people  went  to  enjoy  themselves.  That  is  the  only  reason 
that  1  could  see  that  they  came. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Do  you  know  whether  they  had  been  there  prior 
to  the  summer  of  1952? 

Mr.  Bray.  I  think  it  was  their  first  time  there. 

}l^'-  Tavenner.  Did  they  come  to  the  ranch  to  visit  vou? 

Mr.  Bray.  No.  "^ 

Mr.  Tavenner.  You  say  you  do  not  recall  their  having  been  at 
the  ranch  m  1953. 

Mr.  Bray.  No,  I  don't  recall  their  being  there  at  that  time 

Mr.  lAVENNER.  Do  you  know  whether  they  arranged  to  attend  a 
meeting  on  July  5,  1953,  at  the  San  Cristobal  Valley  Ranch? 

Mr  Bray.  No,  I  don't  know  of  any  arrangements  which  they  made 
about  visiting  the  ranch  m  1953. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Did  you  see  them  at  any  place  on  July  5,  1953? 

Mr.  Bray.  I  don  t  recall  having  seen  them.  As  far  as  the  date  is 
concerned  I  don't  know.  I  don't  even  know  whether  I  was  at  the 
ranch  at  that  time. 

o-.f  ""•  ^''^^''''^^-  Did  you  confer  with  Mr.  and  Mrs.  Saucedo,  or 
A^r  B  "^'  ^^  ®^^^^  P^^^  ^^  ^^^^  summer  of  1953? 
Mr.  Bray.  No  I  have  mentioned  before  that  I  did  visit  them 
occasionally,  but  I  don't  recall  conferring  with  them  about  anything. 
fl.  Q-  ^^^^^"i^^R.  If  Mr.  and  Mrs.  Saucedo  had  made  plans  to  be  at 
the  San  Cristobal  Valley  Ranch  on  July  5,  1953,  do  you  know  any 
reason  for  their  changing  their  plans?     -"     '  >        ^  ^ 


1432  COMMUNIST    ACTIVITIES    IN    THE    OHIO    AREA 

Mr.  Bray.  No;  I  don't  know  of  any  reason  why  they  would  change 
their  plans.  It  was  never  my  interest.  It  didn't  make  any  difference 
to  me. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  You  have  no  knowledge  whatever  of  any  happening 
or  any  representation  made  to  them  which  caused  a  change  in  their 
plans? 

Mr.  Bray.  No;  I  have  no  knowledge  of  that. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Are  you  acquainted  with  Lawrence  Love? 

Mr.  Bray.  Yes. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Did  jou  attend  a  function  at  his  home  at  2202 
Ogden  Street,  Denver,  on  December  30,  1954? 

Mr.  Bray.  I  don't  recall  attending  a  function  at  his  house  on  this 
particular  date.  I  did  attend  some  parties  that  they  used  to  have  at 
his  house,  but  that  is  all  I  ever  attended. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Were  Mr.  and  Mrs.  Saucedo  present  at  those 
parties? 

Mr.  Bray.  Yes,  sii-.     Well,  most  of  the  time. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  What  was  the  purpose  of  the  parties? 

Mr.  Bray.  Just  a  party.     That  is  all  I  can  say. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Were  any  persons  there  known  to  you  to  be  mem- 
bers of  the  Communist  Party? 

Mr.  Bray.  There  was  nobody  present  that  I  could  say  I  knew  were 
members  of  the  Communist  Party. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  At  these  meetings  we  have  discussed,  which  you 
attended,  and  when  Air.  and  Mrs.  Saucedo  were  present,  was  any 
Communist  Party  literature  presented  or  discussed? 

Mr.  Bray.  No,  never  at  any  party  that  I  ever  attended  was  there 
any  Communist  Party  literature  presented  or  discussed. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Were  you  acquainted  with  Morris  Wright, 
W-r-i-g-h-t? 

Mr.  Bray.  I  have  met  him.     I  was  acquainted  with  him. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Did  you  attend  a  function  at  his  home  on  January 
11,  1955,  at  875  Shoshone  Street  in  Denver? 

Mr.  Bray.  I  do  recall  attending  another  party  at  his  house.  I 
don't  know  whether  that  was  the  date  or  not. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  I  am  speaking  of  1955.  Was  this  meeting  at- 
tended by  you  in  1955? 

Mr.  Bray.  I  didn't  attend  any  in  1955,  because  I  was  in  Massillon. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  What  about  the  year  1954? 

Mr.  Bray.  I  remember  attending  some  party  at  his  house  in  that 
year. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Was  it  in  January  1954? 

Mr.  Bray.  That  seems  likely,  but  I  don't  remember  the  date. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Were  Mr.  and  Mrs.  Saucedo  present? 

Mr.    Bray.  Yes. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Wliat  was  the  purpose  of  that  meeting? 

Mr.  Bray.  I  don't  know  that,  either.  I  think  somebody  was  hav- 
ing a  birthday,  maybe  one  of  his  children. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Could  it  have  been  a  birthday  celebration  for  the 
National  Guardian  magazine? 

Mr.  Bray.  That  I  don't  know,  because  that  was  never  explained 
and  I  never  inquired  about  it,  because  every  time  I  was  invited  to  go 
to  a  party,  it  was  just  a  party. 


COMMUNIST    ACTIVITIES    IN    THE    OHIO    AREA  1433 

Mr.  Tavenner.  You  found  out  what  the  party  was  after  vou  e:ot 
there,  didn't  you? 

Mr.  Bray.  No.  There  was  nothing  discussed  pertaining  to  this 
paper,  and  ah  that  I  could  see  was  going  on  was  that  people  were 
drinking  and  talking.     That  is  all. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Did  you  visit  the  San  Cristobal  Valley  Ranch 
m  New  Mexico  dunng  the  weekend  of  January  8  and  9    1955? 

Mr.  Bray.  No,  I  did  not. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  When  was  the  last  time  you  visited  the  San  Cristo- 
bal Vaney  Ranch? 

Mr.  Bray.  About  that  time  I  was  in  New  Mexico  because  as  I 
said,  we  had  acquired  a  number  of  friends  in  New  Mexico  in  Taos 
N.  Mex.,  especially.  For  that  reason  my  wife  and  I  went  down  to 
visit. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Did  you  go  to  the  San  Cristobal  Ranch  while 
3^ou  were  there? 
Mr.  Bray.  No. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Were  you  acquainted  with  Anthonv  Morton  of 
Denver?  "  ' 

Mr.  Bray.  Oh,  yes. 

Mr.  Tavenner.' Wliat  was  his  occupation? 

Mr.  Bray.  He  worked  at  the  Union  Hall  there. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Wliat  union? 

Mr.  Bray.  The  Mine,  Mill  and  Smelter  Workers  Union. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Do  you  know  what  his  position  was? 

Mr  Bray.  I  think  he  was  a  clerk  or  he  ran  a  mmieograph  machine 
1  don't  really  know. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Did  you  ever  take  anv  material  to  him  to  be 
mimeographed? 

Mr.  Bray.  Yes. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  From  whom? 

..  J^^^;  -^^^-  ^^  ^^^^  ^  t»^'^>'  which  we  were  giving  in  Denver  entitled, 
(jrod's  Trombones." 

Mr.    Tavenner.  In   addition    to    that,   did    you   take   any   other 
material  to  him? 
Mr.  Bray.  No. 

Txr^J-^-  Tavenner.  Did  you  deliver  messages  of  anv  character  from 
Wilham  Morris,  Sr.,  to  Anthony  Morton? 

Mr.  Bray.  No,  I  never  delivered  any  messages  from  Morris. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Did  you  ever  deliver  to  Anthonv  Morton  anv 
material?  By  that  I  mean  any  statement  in  writing  or  anv  printed 
matter?  ' 

Mr.  Bray.  No,  never  any  material  that  I  ever  dehvered. 
o        \  J-"^ venner,     In  other  words,  you  have  not  transmitted  anything 
from  Mr.  William  Morris,  Sr.,  to  Anthony  Morton? 

Mr.  Bray.  No.  ^  ' 

^^'-  Tavenner.  You  say  you  took  master's  work  at  the  University 
ot  Colorado  in  1953.     Did  vou  receive  an  additional  degree? 

Mr.  Bray.  No. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  After  completing  your  graduate  work,  did  you 
then  engage  m  the  teaching  profession? 

Mr.  Bray.  Yes. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Where? 

Mr.  Bray.  At  Cole  Junior  High  School  in  Denver. 


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Mr.  Tavenner.  How  long  were  you  employed  there? 

Mr.  Bray.  One  year. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Were  you  required  to  file  a  loyalty  oath  of  any 
character  for  employment? 

Mr.  Bray.  Yes. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Did  you  file  one? 

Mr.  Bray.  Yes. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  At  the  time  of  filing  such  an  oath,  were  you  a 

member  of  the  Communist  Party? 

Mr.  Bray.  No.  ,  r    i      r^  •  ^ 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Had  you  ever  been  a  member  of  the  Uommumst 

Party  prior  to  that  time?  .      r^  •  ^ 

Mr.  Bray.  No;  1  have  never  been  a  member  of  the  Communist 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Have  you  at  any  time  ever  attended  a  Communist 

Party  meeting?  •       -n    ^ 

Mr.   Bray.  I    don't   recall    ever    attendmg    a   Communist   Party 

meeting.  11. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Bv  vour  answer,  am  I  to  understand  that  you  are 
uncertain  in  your  mind^bout  that?     Do  you  say  you  do  not  recall? 

Air.  Bray'  No.  I  am  merely  stating  that  I  have  never  gone  to  a 
meeting  knowing  that  it  was  Communist,  and  I  have  never  attended 
any  meeting,  having  gone  through  a  meeting  with  the  impression  that 
it  was  a  Communist  meeting.  . 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Were  you  at  any  time  solicited  for  membership  m 
the  Communist  Party?  1  •  ..i, 

Mr.   Bray.  I  have   never  been   solicited  for  membership   m   the 

Communist  Partv.  ^■      ■       t 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Have  you  ever  at  any  time  made  application  tor 

membership  in  the  Communist  Party? 

Mr.  Bray.  I  have  never  made  an  application  to  the  Communist 

Party. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  After  serving  1  year  as  a  teacher  at  Cole  Junior 
High  School,  were  you  employed  elsewhere? 

Mr.  Bray.  Yes.     I  signed  a  contract  to  teach  in  MassiUon,  Ohio. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Is  that  the  place  of  your  birth? 

Mr.  Bray.  Yes. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  For  what  vear  was  the  contract? 

Mr.  Bray.  It  was  for  1955^  1954-55. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Are  you  under  contract  now  to  teach  there? 

Mr.  Bray.  No. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Was  your  contract  canceled? 

Mr.  Bray.  Well,  it  was  terminated,  yes. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Did  you  actually  teach  that  year? 

Mr.  Bray.  I  didn't  teach  that  year. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  However,  you  were  paid  your  salary  for  that  year 
weren't  you? 

Mr.  Bray.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Do  vou  still  reside  in  Massillon? 

Mr.  Bray.  Yes.  You  asked  me  whether  or  not  I  taught  that  year. 
Did  you  mean  at  Massillon? 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Yes. 

Mr.  Bray.  I  didn't  teach  at  Massillon,  no. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Where  did  you  teach? 


COMMUNIST    ACTIVITIES    IN    THE    OHIO    AREA  1435 

in¥ebruar  ^'  ^  ^^^^  ^^^^^  ^^  Cleveland  beginning  the  second  semester, 

Mr.  Tavenner.  Do  vou  still  teach  there "^ 

Mr.  Bray.  No. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  What  was  the  name  of  the  school"? 

Mr.  Bray.  Rawlings  Junior  High  School. 

Mr.  Tavenner.  I  have  asked  you  about  Communist  Partv  member- 
ship at  various  periods.  I  want  to  ask  you  now,  have  you  been  a 
member  of  the  Communist  Party  at  anv  time? 

at  an'-'^k^e  ■  ^  ^^^^^  "^^^^  ^^^^^  ^  member  of  the  Communist  Party 
Mr.  Tavenner.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  believe  that  is  all  that  I  want  to 

ask  this  witness  m  open  session.     I  would  like  to  ask  him  a  few 

questions  m  closed  session. 
The  Chairman.  All  right. 
If  the  members  of  the  press  will  leave  the  room,  we  will  proceed 

witn  tne  closed  session. 

(Whereupon,  at  3:15  p.  m.,  the  subcommittee  recessed,  to  reconvene 
in  executive  session.) 


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T.          -,,                                                     INDIVIDUALS  Page 

Hym;,  Petlr  1419^1435  (testimony) 

Lawson,  Harry  A j^^^ 

Love,  Lawrence _   __    -      --        -                    i^^o 

Morris,  William,  Sr V/oy -{Joo.    1400 

Morton,  Anthonv ^'  ^^^^'  ^^^^ 

Saucedo,  Jesus  (Jake) "142^"  "{424  "  1490-  ilto 

?tnS'crSg  ^^'''- ''''"'  Saucedo).....::::::::::::::...''!'  lUti  l^tltk 

Wright,' Morris.::iI"]  Jf^S 

Organizations 

American  Peace  Crusade,  Southern  California  Peace  Crusade  1422    142'i 

Boulder  Peace  Council  (Colorado)  1499LJ40? 

Civil  Rights  Congress  (Denver,  ColoO  lloo 

Ethnic  Minority  Scholarship  Fund  JJoq 

Mine    Mill  and  Smelter  Workers,  International  Union" of  ^A^ 

San  Cristobal  Valley  Ranch  _ .  .  {aoq  "fio ,    T^oo 

Southern  California  Peace  Crusade.     (5ee"Ame7ican"Peace"  Crusade  ) '  ' 

University  of  Colorado .....  ^  ,  .«q 

Young  Progressives  of  America  .  :  floe 

University  of  Colorado  branch  .      .  ".""  {426    -^"° 


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