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HARVARD  COLLEGE 
LIBRARY 


GIFT  OF  THE 

GOVERNMENT 
OF  THE  UNITED  STATES 


INVESTIGATION  OF  COMMUNIST  ACTIVITIES  IN  THE 
NEW  HAVEN,  CONN.,  AREA— Part  2 


HEARINGS 

BEFORE  THE 

COMMITTEE  ON  UN-AMEEICM  ACTIVITIES 
HOUSE  OF  EEPEESENTATIYES 

EIGHTY-FOUKTH  CONGKESS 

SECOND  SESSION 


SEPTEMBER  26,  1956 


Printed  for  the  use  of  the  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities 
(INCLUDING  INDEX) 


UNITED   STATES 
GOVERNMENT  PRINTING  OFFICE 
84046  WASHINGTON  :  1956 


COMMITTEE  ON  UN-AMERICAN  ACTIVITIES 
United  States  House  of  Repeesentatives 

FRANCIS  B.  WALTER,  Pennsylvania,  Chairman 
MORGAN  M.  MOULDER,  Missouri  HAROLD  H.  VELDE,  Illinois 

CLYDE  DOYLE,  California  BERNARD  W.  KEARNEY,  New  York 

JAMES  B.  FRAZIER,  Je.,  Tennessee  DONALD  L.  JACKSON,  California 

EDWIN  E.  WILLIS,  Louisiana  GORDON  H.  SCHERER,  Oliio 

RiCHABD  Ahens,  Director 

II 


CONTENTS 


Page 

September  24,  1956:  Testimony  of— 

Bert  David  Gilden 5585 

Harold  Kent 5599 

Bert  D.  Gilden    (resumed) 5599 

Harold  Kent  (resumed) 5605 

Afternoon  session: 

Oliver  R.  Arsenault 5612 

Frank  Henrv  Fazekas 5623 

William  Pistey 5631 

Milton  Weinberg 5636 

Frank  Peterson 5642 

September  25,  1956:  Testimony  of — 

Saul  Kreas 5647 

Worden  C.  Mosher 5653 

Saul  Kreas  (resumed) 5654 

Worden  C.  Alosher  (resumed) 5656 

Samuel  Richter 5668 

Afternoon  session: 

Harold  W.  Mosher 5678 

Charlotte  Richter  (Mrs.  Samuel  Richter) 5685 

Konstant ine    Jakowenko 5689 

Hyman  Steinberg 5695 

PAET  2 

September  26,  1956:  Testimony  of — ■ 

Irving  Dichter 5701 

Josephine  \\'illard 5712 

Rowena  R.  Paumi 5725 

Josephine  Wiilard  (resumed) 5726 

Rowena  R.  Paumi  (resumed) 5727 

Joesph  Barnes 5736 

Lois  Barnes  (Mrs.  Joseph  Barnes) 5739 

Afternoon  session: 

Samuel  Davis 5742 

Emma  Davis  (Mrs.  Samuel  Davis) 5745 

Paul  Bloom 5749 

Doris  Bloom  (Mrs.  Paul  Bloom) 5751 

Bernard  Burg 5754 

Saul  Kreas  (resumed) 5759 

Samuel  Gruber 576 1 

Rowena  R.  Paumi  (resumed) 5765 

Samuel  Gruber  (resumed) 5765 

Index I 

III 


Public  Law  601,  TOth  Congress 

The  legislation  under  which  the  Plouse  Committee  on  Un-American 
Activities  operates  is  Public  Law  601,  79tli  Congress  (1946),  chapter 
753, 2d  session,  which  provides : 

Be  it  enacted  hy  the  Senate  and  House  of  Representatives  of  the  United  States 
of  America  in  Congress  assembled,  *  *  * 

PART  2— RULES  OF  THE  HOUSE  OF  REPRESENTATIVES 

Rule  X 

SEC.    121.    STANDING   COMMITTEES 

17.  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities,  to  consist  of  nine  members. 

Rule  XI 

POWERS  AND  DUTIES  OF  COMMITTEES 


(q)  (1)  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities. 

(A)   Un-American  Activities. 

(2)  The  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities,  as  a  whole  or  by  subcommittee, 
is  authorized  to  make  from  time  to  time  investigations  of  (i)  the  extent,  charac- 
ter, and  objects  of  un-American  propaganda  activities  in  the  United  States,  (ii) 
the  diffusion  within  the  United  States  of  subversive  and  un-American  propa- 
ganda that  is  instigated  from  foreign  countries  or  of  a  domestic  origin  and 
attacks  the  principle  of  the  form  of  government  as  guaranteed  by  our  Constitu- 
tion, and  (iii)  all  other  questions  in  relation  thereto  that  would  aid  Congress  in 
any  necessary  remedial  legislation. 

The  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  shall  report  to  the  House  (or  to  the 
Clerk  of  the  House  if  the  House  is  not  in  session)  the  results  of  any  such  investi- 
gation, together  with  such  recommendations  as  it  deems  advisable. 

For  the  purpose  of  any  such  investigation,  the  Committee  on  Un-American 
Activities,  or  any  subcommittee  thereof,  is  authorized  to  sit  and  act  at  such 
times  and  places  within  the  United  States,  whether  or  not  the  House  is  sitting, 
has  recessed,  or  has  adjourned,  to  hold  such  hearings,  to  require  the  attendance 
of  such  witnesses  and  the  production  of  such  books,  papers,  and  documents  and 
to  take  such  testimony,  as  it  deems  necessary.  Subpoenas  may  be  issued  under 
the  signature  of  the  chairman  of  the  committee  or  any  subcommittee,  or  by  any 
member  designated  by  any  such  chairman,  and  may  be  served  by  any  person 
designated  by  any  such  chairman  or  member. 

V 


RULES  ADOPTED  BY  THE  84TH  CONGRESS 
House  Resolution  5,  January  5,  1955 

•  ****•* 

Rule  X 

STANDING    COMMITTEES 

1.  There  shall  be  elected  by  the  House,  at  the  commencement  of  each  Congress; 

•  *****• 
(q)   Committee  on  Un-American  Activities,  to  consist  of  nine  members. 

******* 

Rule  XI 

POWERS  AND  DUTIES  OF  COMMITTEES 


17.  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities. 

(a)  Un-American  Activities. 

(b)  The  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities,  as  a  whole  or  by  subcommittee, 
is  authorized  to  make,  from  time  to  time,  investigations  of  (1)  the  extent,  char- 
acter, and  objects  of  un-American  propaganda  activities  in  the  United  States, 
(2)  the  diffusion  within  the  United  States  of  subversive  and  un-American  prop- 
aganda that  is  instigated  from  foreign  countries  or  of  a  domestic  origin  and 
attacks  the  principle  of  the  form  of  government  as  guai-anteed  by  our  Constitu- 
tion, and  (3)  all  other  questions  in  relation  thereto  that  would  aid  Congress  in 
any  necessary  remedial  legislation. 

The  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  shall  report  to  the  House  (or  to  the 
Clerk  of  the  House  if  the  House  is  not  in  session)  the  results  of  any  such  investi- 
gation, together  with  such  recommendations  as  it  deems  advisable. 

For  the  purpose  of  any  such  investigation,  the  Committee  on  Un-American 
Activities,  or  any  subcommittee  thereof,  is  authorized  to  sit  and  act  at  such  times 
and  places  within  the  United  States,  whether  or  not  the  House  is  sitting,  has 
recessed,  or  has  adjourned,  to  hold  such  hearings,  to  require  the  attendance  of 
such  witnesses  and  the  production  of  such  books,  papers,  and  documents,  and  to 
take  such  testimony  as  it  deems  necessary.  Subpenas  may  be  issued  under  the 
signature  of  the  chairman  of  the  committee  or  any  subcommittee,  or  by  any 
member  designated  by  any  such  chairman,  and  may  be  served  by  any  person 
designated  by  any  such  chairman  or  member. 

VI 


INVESTIGATION  OF  COMMUNIST  ACTIVITIES  IN  THE 
NEW  HAVEN,  CONN.,  AREA— Part  2 


WEDNESDAY,  SEPTEMBER  26,   1956 

United  States  House  of  Representatives, 

Subcommittee  of  the 
Committee  on  Un-American  Activities, 

New  Haven^  Conn. 

PUBLIC   HEARING 

A  subcommittee  of  the  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  met 
at  10  a.  m.,  pursuant  to  recess,  in  the  United  States  Courthouse,  New 
Haven,  Conn.,  Hon.  Edwin  E.  Willis  (chairman  of  the  subcommittee) 
presiding. 

Committee  members  present:  Representatives  Edwin  E.  Willis, 
of  Louisiana,  and  Bernard  W.  Kearney,  of  New  York. 

Also  present:   Representative  Albert  W.  Cretella,  of  Connecticut. 

Staff  members  present :  Richard  Arens,  director ;  Raymond  T.  Col- 
lins, investigator. 

Mr.  Willis.  The  subcommittee  will  come  to  order. 

Counsel  will  call  the  first  witness. 

Mr.  Arens.  Mr.  Irving  Dichter,  please  come  forward. 

Kindly  remain  standing  while  the  chairman  administers  an  oath 
to  you,  sir. 

Mr.  Willis.  Raise  your  right  hand,  please. 

Do  you  solemnly  swear  that  the  testimony  you  are  about  to  give  will 
be  the  truth,  the  whole  truth,  and  nothing  but  the  truth,  so  help  you 
God? 

Mr.  Dichter.  I  do. 

TESTIMONY  OF  IRVING  DICHTER 

Mr.  Arens.  Kindly  have  a  seat. 

Mr.  Dichter.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Arens. 

Mr.  Arens.  Please  identify  yourself  by  name,  residence,  and  occu- 
pation. 

Mr.  Dichter.  My  name  is  Irving  Dichter,  my  residence  is  555 
Trumbull  Avenue,  Bridgeport,  Conn.,  and  I  am  the  executive  board 
member  of  the  International  Union  of  Mine,  Mill,  and  Smelter 
Workers. 

Mr.  Arens.  Are  you  appearing  today,  Mr.  Dichter,  in  response 
to  a  subpena  which  was  served  upon  you  ? 

Mr.  Dichter.  Yes,  Mr.  Arens. 

Mr,  Arens.  And  you  approached  me  a  while  ago  and  advised  me 
that  you  did  not  have  counsel  ? 

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5702       COMMUNIST  ACTIVITIES  IN  NEW  HAVEN,  CONN.,  AREA 

Mr.  DicHTER.  That  is  correct. 

Mr.  Arens.  At  that  time,  I  advised  you  with  reference  to  the  right 
which  you  have  under  the  Constitution,  and  I  sliould  like  to  do  so 
again  on  this  record,  namely,  that  if  I  ask  you  a  question,  the  answer 
to  whiclx,  in  your  honest  judgment,  if  truthfully  given  would  furnish 
information  which  might  be  used  against  you  in  a  criminal  proceedings 
you  have  the  privilege  of  declining  to  answer  that  on  the  basis  of 
the  provisions  of  the  fifth  amendment  to  the  Constitution  of  the 
United  States  against  self-incrimination. 

Do  you  understand  ? 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  I  do,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Spell  your  name  for  us,  would  you,  please  ? 

Mr.  DicHTER.  My  name  is  Irving,  I-r-v-i-n-g,  Dichter,  D-i-c-h-t-e-r,, 
sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Have  you  ever  been  known  by  any  name  other  than 
the  name  Dichter  ? 

Mr,  Dichter.  No,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Where  and  when  were  you  born  ? 

Mr.  Dichter.  I  was  born  in  Austria  on  May  23, 1913. 

Mr.  Arens.  Wlien  did  you  come  to  the  United  States  ? 

Mr.  Dichter.  In  1921,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Did  you  come  to  the  United  States  at  that  time  as  a 
permanent  resident  ? 

Mr.  Dichter.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Are  you  a  citizen  of  the  United  States  ? 

Mr.  Dichter.  I  am,  sir, 

Mr.  Arens.  Was  that  by  derivation  or  by  naturalization? 

Mr.  Dichter.  By  derivation. 

Mr.  Arens.  Your  father  is  a  citizen,  I  take  it. 

Mr,  Dichter,  My  father  is  deceased, 

Mr.  Arens,  Your  father  was  a  citizen  ? 

Mr,  Dichter.  Yes. 

Mr.  Arens.  As  of  what  date  did  you  procure  citizenship  by  deriva- 
tion? 

Mr.  Dichter.  I  believe  it  was  in  1926;  I  am  not  certain  of  the  date 
of  my  father's  citizenship,  but  I  am  sure  it  was  5  years  after  he 
arrived  in  this  country. 

Mr.  Arens.  Kindly  tell  us,  if  you  please,  a  word  about  your 
education. 

Mr.  Dichter.  Well,  public  school. 

Mr.  Arens.  Where,  please,  sir? 

Mr.  Dichter.  In  New  York  City  and  high  school  in  New  York 
City,  and  2  years  I  believe,  or  2i^  years  of  college,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  '\Yliere  did  you  attend  college  ? 

Mr.  Dichter.  At  New  York  University,  sir,  and  at  City  College. 

Mr.  Arens.  When  did  you  complete  your  formal  education? 

Mr.  Dichter,  1933, 

Mr,  Arens,  Did  you  receive  a  degree  of  any  kind? 

Mr.  Dichter,  No,  sir. 

Mr,  Arens,  Did  you  receive  or  have  you  received  since  1933  any 
formalized  instruction  of  any  kind,  character,  or  description? 

Mr.  Dichter.  You  mean  have  I  gone  to  school  since  then? 

Mr.  Arens.  Yes ;  any  formalized  training  of  any  kind,  character,  or 
description. 


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COMMUNIST  ACTIVITIES  IN  NEW  HAVEN,  CONN.,  AREA       5703 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  No,  sir. 

Mr.  Arends.  Have  you  attended  any  classes  ? 

Mr.  DicHTER.  It's  a  rather  broad  question.  May  I  exercise  tlie 
privilege  of  the  fifth  amendment,  sir  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  In  your  honest  judgment,  if  you  would  give  a  truthful 
answer  to  that  question  with  reference  to  any  specialized  training 
you  may  have  had,  do  you  feel  you  might  be  supplying  information 
which  could  be  used  against  you  in  a  criminal  proceeding? 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  Could  I  think  the  answer  out  a  minute,  Mr.  Arens? 

Mr.  Arexs.  Surely. 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  I  would  stick  to  my  former  answer,  Mr.  Arens. 

Mr.  Arens.  Now  kindly  tell  us,  if  you  please,  sir,  what  was  your 
occupation  as  soon  as  you  had  completed  your  formal  education  in 
New  York  ? 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  "Well,  I  worked  as  a  house  painter.  I  didn't  have 
really  an  occupation.     It  was  during  the  depression. 

Mr.  Arens.  Give  us,  if  you  please,  sir,  the  principal  occupations 
which  you  have  had  since  you  completed  your  formal  education. 

Dr.  DiCHTER.  Well,  I  don't  think  I  have  had  any — my  principal 
occupation  has  been  as  representative  of  the  International  Union  of 
Mine,  Mill,  and  Smelter  Workers. 

Mr.  Arens.  When  did  that  occupation  commence  ? 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  1941,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  "Wliere  ? 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  In,  I  believe,  Cleveland,  Ohio. 

Mr.  Arens.  Who  was  your  immediate  superior  ? 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  A  Mr.  Edward  Cheyfitz,  C-h-e-y-f-i-t-z. 

Mr.  Arends.  What  was  your  duty  or  responsibility  when  you  as- 
sumed your  position  ? 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  I  was  international  representative,  which  is  the  broad 
title  for  a  representative. 

Mr.  Arens.  Were  you  located  in  Cleveland  or  were  you  assigned 
elsewhere  and  then  sent  to  Cleveland  ? 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  No,  I  was  engaged  in — well,  I  worked  in  Cleveland; 
is  that  what  you  are  asking  me  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  Yes,  sir ;  I  worked  in  Cleveland. 

Mr.  Arens.  In  what  line  of  work  were  you  engaged  when  you  as- 
sumed your  task  as  an  employee  of  the  International  Union  of  Mine, 
Mill,  and  Smelter  Workers  in  Cleveland  ? 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  Prior  to  that,  sir,  I  worked  in  Pottstown,  Pa.,  for 
the  Dohler  Diecasting  Co. 

Mr.  Arens.  At  the  time  you  were  working  for  the  Dohler  Diecast- 
ing Co.,  were  you  affiliated  with  the  International  Union  of  Mine, 
Mill,  and  Smelter  Workers  ? 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  No,  the  union  was  then  an  independent  union ;  it  was 
the  International  Association  of  Diecasting  Workers. 

Mr.  Arens.  Was  that  subsequently  incorporated  in  the  Interna- 
tional Union  of  Mine,  Mill,  and  Smelter  Workers  ? 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  Yes,  it  was  subsequently  incorporated. 

Mr.  Arens.  How  long  were  you  engaged  in  Cleveland,  Ohio,  with 
the  International  Union  of  Mine,  Mill,  and  Smelter  Workers  ? 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  I  don't  have  exact  dates. 

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5704       COMMUNIST  ACTIVITIES  IN  NEW  HAVEN,  CONN.,  AREA 

Mr.  Arens.  Your  best  estimate? 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  My  best  estimate  would  be  about  a  year,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Then  where  did  you  go  ? 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  Then  I  came  to  Connecticut,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Have  you  been  continuously  so  engaged  in  Connecticut? 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  No,  sir. 

In  1945, 1  believe  I  was  assigned  to  New  York. 

Mr.  Arens.  By  whom  ? 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  By  the  international  union. 

Mr.  Arens,  You  came  to  Connecticut  in  1942  ? 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  Approximately. 

Mr.  Arens.  Approximately  1942? 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  What  was  your  assignment  at  that  time? 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  Well,  my  assignment  was  to  service  local  unions  and 
to  organize. 

Mr.  Arens.  How  long  were  you  so  engaged  here  in  Connecticut? 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  Until  1945, 1  believe,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Then  what  happened  ? 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  Then  I  was  assigned  to  New  York,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  In  the  same  capacity  ? 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  Yes,  to  represent  the  international  union. 

Mr.  Arens.  How  long  were  you  so  engaged  in  New  York  City  ? 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  Five  years,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens,  Wliat  happened  at  the  end  of  the  5  years? 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  I  was  reassigned  by  the  international  umon  to  Con- 
necticut, sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Have  you  been  continuously  employed  here  since  that 
time? 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  Yes,  I  have. 

Mr.  Arens.  What  is  the  total  strength  of  the  International  Union 
of  Mine,  Mill  and  Smelter  Workers? 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  Nationally,  sir  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  Well,  I  would  say  about,  it  varies  from  month  to 
month,  but  I  would  say  around  sixty-five,  sixty  thousand. 

Mr.  Arens.  The  total  strength  internationally  is  about  85,000, 
is  it  not  ? 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  Mr.  Arens,  I  am  not  sure  of  these  figures.  If  I  had 
them  in  front  of  me,  I  could  give  them  to  you. 

Mr.  Arens.  In  addition  to  the  strength  of  the  International  Union 
of  Mine,  Mill  and  Smelter  Workers  in  the  United  States,  are  there 
substantial  numbers  in  Canada  ? 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  There  is  an  interlocking  relationship  between  the  Cana- 
dian and  the  American  International  Unions  of  Mine,  Mill  and 
Smelter  Workers,  is  that  not  correct  ? 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  How  many  members  are  there  of  the  International 
Union  of  Mine,  Mill  and  Smelter  Workers  in  the  Connecticut  area  ? 


COMMUNIST  ACTIVITIES  IN  NEW  HAVEN,  CONN.,  AREA       5705 

Mr.  DicHTER.  In  the  Connecticut  area  at  the  present  time  ? 

I  should  say  about  2,700,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  As  an  official  of  a  labor  organization,  did  you  sign  the 
Taft-Hartley  non- Communist  affidavit? 

Mr.  DicHTER.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Was  that  signature  and  that  affidavit  true  ? 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  Sir,  here  I  am  getting  into  hazardous  ground.  I 
would  ask  the  privilege  of  the  fifth  at  this  point. 

Mr.  Kearney.  I  would  like  to  ask  the  gentleman  what  he  means  by 
"hazardous  ground." 

Mr.  Dichter.  Well,  since  I  don't  have  counsel  here,  it  is  difficult 
for  me  to  consult  on  these  questions.  I  would  much  rather  have  had 
counsel,  but  he  is  not  available;  that  is,  the  counsel  for  the  interna- 
tional union. 

]Mr.  Arens.  Is  that  Nathan  Witt  ? 

Mr.  Dichter.  That  is  right.  This  is  the  first  time  I  have  appeared 
before  a  committee.    I  have  some  idea  of  what 

Mr.  Kearney.  Of  course  you  are  not  suggesting  to  this  committee 
that  you  are  being  interrogated  against  your  will  to  have  counsel? 

Mr.  Dichter.  No,  no ;  I  am  not  saying  that  at  all,  Mr.  Kearney — 
I  see  the  nameplate  in  front  of  you — I  am  going  to  take  the  privilege 
of  the  fifth,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  I  personally  would  rather  have  us  lean  over  backward 
than  take  advantage  of  a  man  without  counsel. 

How  many  affidavits  did  you  sign;  Taft-Hartley  affidavits? 

Mr.  Dichter.  I  believe  two. 

Mr.  Arens.  And  the  essence  of  that  affidavit  was  that  you  were  not 
then  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party;  isn't  that  correct? 

Mr.  Dichter.  Again  I  would  like  to 

Mr.  Arens.  I  asure  you  that  is  a  perfectly  innocent  question.  The 
essence  of  the  affidavit  is  that  you  were  not  at  the  time  of  signing  the 
affidavit  a  Communist ;  isn't  that  correct  ? 

I  am  not  asking  you  now  whether  you  were  a  Communist  at  the  time 
you  signed  the  affidavit.  I  am  only  asking  you,  for  the  purpose  of  the 
record,  if  the  affidavit  which  you  signed  did  not,  in  effect,  state  that 
you  were  not  at  the  time  of  the  signing  a  Communist  ? 

Mr.  Dichter.  Sir,  I  would  like  to  invoke  the  fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Arens.  Normally,  we  would  insist  on  an  answer  to  that  ques- 
tion, but  in  view  of  the  fact  that  you  are  without  counsel,  I  shall  not 
ask  the  chairman  to  direct  you  to  answer. 

Did  you  take  any  official  action  immediately  prior  to  the  signing  of 
the  non-Communist  affidavit  in  accordance  with  the  provisions  of  the 
National  Labor  Relations  Act  ? 

Mr.  Dichter.  I  am  again  invoking  the  privilege  of  the  fifth. 

Mr.  Arens.  Did  you  resigii  technical  membership  in  the  Commu- 
nist Party  immediately  prior  to  signing  the  affidavit  ? 

Mr.  Dichter.  I  am  invoking  the  privilege  of  the  fifth,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Where  are  the  2,700  members  in  Connecticut;  in  what 
entities  do  they  labor? 

Mr.  Dichter.  In  Stamford,  Conn.;  Ansonia,  Conn.;  Torrington, 
Conn.,  and  in  Thomaston,  Conn. 

Mr.  Arens.  Who  are  the  other  officials  of  the  International  Union 
of  Mine,  Mill,  and  Smelter  Workers  in  this  area  ? 


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Mr.  DicHTER.  We  have  no  other  officials.  We  have  international 
representatives. 

Mr.  Henry  Rapuna,  Mr.  Edward  Coleman 

Mr.  Arens.  Where  is  Mr.  Henry  Rapuna  located  ? 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  In  Ansonia,  Conn. 

Mr.  Arens.  What  is  his  position? 

Mr.  DiciiTER.  He  is  an  international  representative. 

Mr.  Arens.  Do  you  know  whether  or  not  he  signed  a  Taft-Hartley 
non-Communist  affidavit  ? 

Mr.  DicHTER.  Again  I  want  to  invoke  the  privilege  of  the  fifth 
on  this. 

Mr.  Arens.  What  is  the  other  person's  name  ? 

Mr.  DicHTER.  Mr.  Edward  Coleman. 

Mr.  Arens.  Where  is  he  located? 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  Ansonia ;  that  is  where  our  headquarters  are. 

Mr.  Arens.  In  what  type  of  work  are  the  men  engaged  who  are 
members  of  the  International  Union  of  Mine,  Mill,  and  Smelter 
Workers  ? 

Mr.  DicHTER.  In  brass  fabricating,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  In  what  plants? 

Mr.  Dichter.  The  American  Brass  Co.,  Ansonia,  and  Torrington ; 
the  Plume  &  Atwood  Co.  in  Thomaston,  Conn.;  and  the  Stamford 
Rolling  Mills  Co.,  in  Stamford. 

Mr.  Arens.  Does  the  shop  steward  system  prevail  in  the  opera- 
tions of  the  International  Union  of  Mine,  Mills,  and  Smelter  Workers  ? 

Mr.  Dichter.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Under  the  shop  steward  system,  a  person  who  is  a 
member  of  the  International  Union  of  Mine,  Mill,  and  Smelter  Work- 
ers has  access  to  all  employees  of  that  particular  shop  in  which  he  is 
engaged ;  is  that  not  correct  ? 

Mr.  Dichter.  Well,  I  don't  know  whether  he  has  access  to  all  the 
employees.     He  services  the  employees  in  his  department. 

Mr.  Arens.  He  has  access  to  the  physical  facilities  of  the  plant? 

Mr.  Dichter.  He  is  an  employee  of  the  company;  yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  He  is  an  elected  official  of  the  local  organization,  is 
he  not? 

Mr.  Dichter.  Yes;  he  is. 

Mr.  Arens.  In  practice,  the  officials  from  top  to  bottom  generally 
are  in  concert  and  companionship  as  they  are  in  a  political  party ;  is 
that  not  correct  ? 

Mr.  Dichter.  Sometimes  they  are,  sir,  and  sometimes  not. 

Mr.  Arens.  Wliat  is  the  system  that  now  prevails  in  Connecticut  in 
that  respect  ? 

Mr.  Dichter.  They  are  elected  by  the  people  in  their  departments. 

Mr.  Arens.  By  and  large,  are  the  shop  stewards  of  the  same  bent 
or  same  allegiances  as  those  in  the  higher  echelon  in  the  Intei'national 
Union  of  Mine,  Mill,  and  Smelter  Workers  ?  i 

Mr.  Dichter.  Sir,  there  are  so  many  variations ■ 

Mr.  Arens.  How  many  shop  stewards  are  there  ? 

Mr.  Dichter.  I  have  to  think  about  this  for  a  moment. 

Mr.  Arens.  What  is  your  best  estimate  ? 


COMMUNIST  ACTIVITIES  IN  NEW  HAVEN,  CONN.,  AREA       5707 

Mr.  DicHTER.  My  best  estimate  is  that  there  are  probably  about 
105  or  110  total  shop  stewards,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Now  tell  this  committee  whether  or  not  Henry  Rapuna 
is,  to  your  certain  knowledoe,  a  member  of  tlie  Communist  conspiracy  ? 

Mr,  DiCHTER.  I  invoke  the  privilege  of  the  fifth,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  You  understand,  do  you  not,  that  if  you  honestly  ap- 
prehend that  an  answer  to  that  question,  if  truthfully  given,  could  be 
used  against  you  in  a  criminal  proceeding,  you  have  the  right  to  invoke 
the  privilege  ? 

Mr.  DiciiTER.  I  am  trying  to  understand  these  proceedings  to  the 
best  of  my  ability. 

Mr.  Arens.  Tell  us  whether  or  not  the  second  gentleman  you  men- 
tioned, Edward  Coleman,  is  to  your  certain  knowledge  a  member  of 
the  Communist  conspiracy  ? 

Mr.  Dichter.  Again  I  want  to  invoke  the  fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Arens.  Do  you  know  Maurice  Travis  ? 

Mr.  Dichter.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Who  is  Maurice  Travis  ? 

Mr.  Dichter.  Maurice  Travis  is  the  former  secretary-treasurer  of 
our  union. 

Mr.  Arens.  Where  is  he  now  ? 

Mr.  Dichter.  Just  at  the  moment,  sir,  I  couldn't  tell  you  where  he  is. 

Mr.  Arens.  What  is  his  status  with  the  law  now  ? 

Mr.  Dichter.  Mr.  Travis  was  convicted  in  Denver ;  is  that  what  you 
are  asking  me,  sir  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  Yes ;  if  you  have  knowledge  of  his  status. 

Mr.  Dichter.  That  is  his  status. 

Mr,  Arens.  He  was  convicted  in  Denver  of  what  ? 

Mr.  Dichter.  I  don't  know  what  you  would  call  it. 

Mr.  Arens.  It  was  not  a  traffic  offense. 

He  was  convicted  in  Denver  of  what  ? 

Mr.  Dichter.  The  Taft-Hartley  affidavit,  sir.     He  false 

Mr.  Arens.  Falsified  his  Taft-Hartley  affidavit.  He  said  he  was 
not  a  Communist  as  an  official  of  the  International  Union  of  Mine, 
Mill,  and  Smelter  Workers,  but  he  was ;  isn't  that  correct  ? 

Mr.  Dichter.  I  want  to  invoke  the  fifth  on  this. 

Mr.  Arens.  Have  you  ever  served  in  a  closed  Communist  Party 
meeting  with  Maurice  Travis  ? 

Mr.  Dichter.  I  want  to  invoke  the  fifth. 

Mr.  Arens.  What  is  the  extent  of  control  by  the  leadership  of  the 
International  Union  of  Mine,  Mill,  and  Smelter  Workers  over  the 
organization? 

I  am  not  asking  the  nature  of  the  control ;  I  am  asking  the  extent 
of  the  control. 

Mr.  Dichter.  Perhaps  if  you  want  to  phrase  it  some  other  way. 

Mr.  Arens.  You  phrase  it  your  way,  Mr.  Dichter, 

Mr.  Dichter.  Well,  every  one  of  our  members,  sir,  is  an  entity  unto 
himself. 

Mr,  Arens,  Were  you  elected  to  your  present  post  ? 

Mr.  Dichter,  Yes,  sir, 

Mr.  Arens.  By  whom  ? 

Mr.  Dichter,  By  the  membership, 

Mr.  Arens,  Is  there  an  executive  board  over  you  ? 


5708       COMMUNIST  ACTIVITIES  IN  NEW  HAVEN,  CONN.,  AREA 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr,  Arens.  Who  is  on  the  executive  board  ? 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  Mr.  John  Clark,  president  of  the  union ;  Mr.  Orville 
Larson,  a  vice  president  of  the  union ;  Mr.  Asbury  Howard,  vice  presi- 
dent of  the  union;  Mr.  Albert  Pezzati,  vice  president  of  the  union; 
Mr.  Alton  Lawrence,  board  member ;  Mr.  Ray  Dennis  and  Mr.  Chase 
Powers  and  Mr.  Joseph  Chavez. 

Mr.  Arens.  Are  any  of  those  men,  to  your  certain  knowledge,  not 
members  of  the  Communist  conspiracy  ? 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  I  invoke  the  privilege  of  the  fifth. 

Mr.  Arens.  Are  you  conversant  with  the  investigation  made  by  the 
United  States  Senate  Internal  Security  Subcommittee  3  years  ago  of 
the  International  Union  of  Mine,  Mill,  and  Smelter  Workers  when 
we  had  hearings  and  in  which  I  happened  to  be  a  participant,  centering 
in  Denver,  Colo.  ? 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  No,  sir ;  I  am  not. 

Mr.  Arens.  Salt  Lake  City,  Utah  ? 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  I  know  of  them. 

Mr.  Arens.  Are  you  conversant  with  the  findings  and  conclusions 
of  the  United  States  Senate  Internal  Security  Subcommittee  that  the 
International  Union  of  Mine,  Mill,  and  Smelter  Workers  is  controlled 
lock,  stock,  and  barrel  by  the  Communist  conspiracy  ? 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  Sir,  I  did  not 

Mr.  Arens.  Are  you  conversant  with  those  conclusions  ? 

I  am  not  asking  you  whether  or  not  those  are  correct. 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  I  am  not  conversant  with  those  conclusions. 

Mr.  Arens.  Are  you  conversant  with  the  fact  that  there  was  an 
investigation  ? 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  Yes,  Mr.  Arens,  I  know  that. 

Mr.  Arens.  Is  the  International  Union  of  Mine,  Mill,  and  Smelter 
Workers  controlled  lock,  stock,  and  barrel  by  the  Communist  con- 
spiracy ? 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  I  am  invoking  the  fifth  on  that  question,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  I  put  it  to  you  as  a  fact  and  ask  you  to  affirm  or  deny  the 
fact  that  the  International  Union  of  Mine,  Mill,  and  Smelter  Worlvers, 
with  2,700  members  in  the  State  of  Connecticut,  is  controlled  lock, 
stock,  and  barrel  by  the  Communist  conspiracy  ? 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  I  am  invoking  the  fifth,  Mr.  Chairman. 

Mr.  Arens.  During  the  course  of  the  discharge  of  your  official 
duties  as  an  international  representative  of  the  International  Union 
of  Mine,  Mill  and  Smelter  Workers,  have  you  taken  directions  and 
orders  from  a  person  who,  to  your  certain  knowledge,  was  a  member  of 
the  Communist  conspiracy  ?  ^ 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  I  am  taking  the  fifth,  sir.  *T^ 

Mr.  Arens.  Are  you  presently  a  member  of  the  Communist 
conspiracy  ? 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  I  respectfully  take  the  fifth,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Do  you  know  a  person  by  the  name  of  Elsie  Willcox  ? 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  I  take  the  fifth,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Do  you  know  a  person  by  the  name  of  Verne  Weed? 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  I  take  the  fifth,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  You  say  you  take  the  fifth.  You  mean,  do  you  not, 
that  if  you  gave  us  a  truthful  answer  to  that  question  you  would  be 


COMMUNIST  ACTIVITIES  IN  NEW  HAVEN,  CONN.,  AREA       5709 

supplying  information  which  might  be  used  against  you  in  a  criminal 
proceeding ;  is  that  correct  ? 

Mr.  DiciiTER.  I  am  sorry,  I  have  to  take  the  fifth. 

Mr.  Arens.  Do  you  honestly  apprehend  that  if  you  told  this 
committee  whether  or  not  you  know  Elsie  Willcox  and  Verne  Weed, 
you  would  be  supplying  information  which  could  be  used  against  you 
in  a  criminal  proceeding  ? 

Mr.  DicnTER.  I  am  sorry,  sir ;  I  am  going  to  have  to  take  the  fifth. 

Mr.  Arens.  If  you  do  not  so  apprehend,  I  assure  you  I  am  going  to 
ask  the  chairman  to  direct  you  to  answer  the  question. 

Mr.  DicHTER.  I  so  apprehend,  sir.    I  get  your  point. 

Mr.  Arexs.  Do  you  know  a  man  by  the  name  of  Harold  Kent  ? 

Mr.  DiCHTER,  I  take  the  fifth,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Mr.  Kent,  would  you  kindly  come  forward,  please? 

Look  over  your  right  slioulder  and  tell  us  whether  or  not  you  know 
that  man. 

Mr.  Dichter.  Are  you  talking  to  me,  sir  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  Yes,  sir. 

]Mr.  Dichter.  I  take  the  fifth,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Mr.  Kent  laid  his  liberty  on  the  line  before  this 
committee  and  testified  under  oath  that  while  he  was  an  undercover 
agent  in  the  Communist  conspiracy  he  knew  you  as  a  member  of  the 
concealed  board  of  the  Communist  Party  in  the  State  of  Connecticut. 
Look  him  in  the  eye  now  and  tell  him  whether  he  was  lying  or  telling 
the  truth  when  he  so  testified. 

Mr.  Dichter.  I  take  the  fifth,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Kent. 

What  publication  is  circulated  here  in  Connecticut,  by  the  Inter- 
national Union  of  Mine,  Mill  and  Smelter  Workers  ? 

Mr.  Dichter.  Their  union  newspaper,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  What  is  the  name  ? 

Mr.  Dicpiter.  The  Union. 

Mr.  Arens.  Is  that  the  publication  of  which  John  Clark  is  the 
editor  ? 

Mr.  Dichter.  Well,  I  am  not  sure.  Clark  is  the  president  of  the 
union.  I  think  the  man  assigned  for  editorial  policy  is  a  Mr.  Pezzati, 
secretary-treasurer. 

Mr.  Arens.  Have  you  ever  served  in  closed  Communist  Party  meet- 
ings with  Mr.  Clark  ? 

Mr.  Dichter.  I  take  the  fifth. 

Mr.  Arens.  Have  you  ever  served  in  a  closed  party  meeting  with 
Pezzati. 

Mr.  Dichter.  I  take  the  fifth,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Did  you  ever  serve  in  the  Armed  Forces  of  this  country  ? 

Mr.  Dichter.  No,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Why  ?    What  was  your  status  at  the  time  ? 

Mr.  Dichter.  I  am  single-vision,  sir.  I  can't  see  out  of  one  eye, 
and,  therefore,  I  was  not  accepted. 

Mr.  Arens.  I  put  to  you  as  a  fact,  sir,  and  ask  you  while  you  are 
imder  oath  to  affirm  or  deny  the  fact  that  you  are  presently  an  agent 
of  the  International  Communist  conspiracy  operating  via  the  arm  of 
the  International  Union  of  Mine,  Mill,  and  Smelter  Workers  in  this 
State.     If  that  is  not  so,  deny  it  while  you  are  under  oath. 


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Mr.  DiCHTER.  I  take  the  fifth. 

Mr.  Arens.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  respectfully  suggest  that  would  con- 
clude the  staff  interrogation  of  this  witness. 

Mr.  Wn.Lis.  Any  questions  ? 

Mr.  Kearney.  Is  your  organization  part  of  the  CIO-AFL  ? 

Mr.  DiciiTER.  No ;  we  are  not,  sir. 

Mr.  Kearney.  Did  you  ever  apply  for  membership  in  that  great 
organization  ? 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  We  were  in  the  CIO,  sir.  We  would  like  to  be  back 
in  again. 

Mr.  Kearney.  You  would  like  to  be  back  in,  but  would  the  CIO 
like  to  have  you  back? 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  Sir,  that  question  I  can't  answer. 

Mr.  Kearney.  As  a  matter  of  fact,  your  union  was  expelled  from 
the  CIO,  was  it  not  ? 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Kearney.  Can  you  tell  the  committee  the  reason  why  it  was 
expelled  ? , 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  Well,  w^e  had  some  sharp  differences  with  the  CIO  on 
a  number  of  questions. 

Mr.  Kearney.  Was  one  of  them  the  issue  of  communism  ? 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  It  didn't  look  to  us  that  way  at  the  time. 

Mr.  Kearney.  But  it  does  now  ? 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  I  wouldn't  want  at  this  time  to  go  into  just  what  all 
the  differences  were. 

Mr.  Kearney.  I  did  not  expect  that  you  would. 

As  a  matter  of  fact,  being  truthful  to  yourself  and  to  the  commit- 
tee, is  it  not  a  fact  that  the  reason  why  you  cannot  obtain  membership 
with  the  CIO-AFL  is  because  your  union  is  Communist-dominated  ? 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  Sir,  we  had  some  real  differences  witli  the  CIO,  and 
the  principal  difference  was  that  we  felt  our  union  should  be  run  by 
our  own  membership.  We  felt  that  they  should  decide  the  policy  of 
our  organization.  At  that  time  there  were  some  differences  in  policy 
between  us  and  the  CIO,  and  that  resulted  in  our  being  put  out  of 
the  CIO. 

Mr.  Kearney.  Now,  as  a  matter  of  looking  for  information,  the 
fact  was,  as  I  said,  that  while  you  desired  to  run  your  own  member- 
ship  

Mr.  DiCHTER.  No,  sir ;  we  desired  our  membership  to  run  our  union. 

Mr.  Kearney.  Is  that  true?  Does  your  membership  run  your 
anion  ? 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  Well,  sir,  our  membership  votes  on  practically  every- 
thing that  comes  before  our  organization. 

Mr.  Kearney.  All  2,700  members  ? 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  No,  sir.  I  wish  we  could  get  everybody  to  vote,  but 
unfortunately 

Mr.  Kearney.  I  think  it  would  be  rather  bad  for  you  if  you  did. 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  Sir,  I  would  Avelcome  it.    I  would  welcome-it. 

Mr.  Kearney.  Well,  what  I  am  getting  at,  and  I  go  back  to  it  again; 
is  it  not  a  fact  tliat  you  were  expelled  from  membership  in  the  CIO 
because  your  membership  was  Communist-dominated  by  your  officers? 

Mr.  DiCHTER.  Mr.  Kearney,  I  don't  want  to  indicate  my  difference 
of  opinion  from  yours.  This  has  become  the  generally  accepted  idea 
as  to  why  we  were  expelled  at  the  time.    We  had  differences  with  the 


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CIO  as  to  any  number  of  things.  We  had  differences  with  them,  as, 
for  example,  politics.  We  had  differences  with  them  on  the  extent  to 
which  they  should  intrude  into  the  affairs  of  our  union. 

I  am  sorry  that  those  differences  were  not  resolved  at  that  time.  It 
has  become  the  generally  accepted  shibboleth;  that  is  what  every 
paper  writes,  and  that  is  ostensibly  the  reason. 

Mr.  Kearney.  Has  the  International  Union  of  Mine,  Mill,  and 
Smelter  Workers  ever  denied  that  ? 
Mr.  DiCHTER.  Yes,  we  have,  sir. 

]\Ir.  Arens.  Mr.  Dichter,  it  is  a  fact,  is  it  not,  that  the  reason  given 
by  the  CIO  for  expelling  the  International  Union  of  Mine,  Mill,  and 
Smelter  Workers  was  that  the  (^10  found,  in  effect,  that  the  Inter- 
national Union  of  Mine,  Mill,  and  Smelter  Workers  was  controlled 
by  the  Communist  conspiracy ;  is  that  not  a  fact  ? 

!Mr.  Dichter.  Mr.  Arens,  I  haven't  read  the  official  reasons.  This 
is  the  commonly  accepted  reason,  which  is  in  all  of  the  newspapers  and 
everything  else. 

Mr.  Arens.  Would  you  tell  us,  then,  if  you  haven't  read  that  fact, 
is  the  International  Union  of  Mine,  Mill,  and  Smelter  Workers  con- 
trolled by  the  Communist  conspiracy? 

!Mr.  Dichter.  I  will  have  to  invoke  the  fifth. 
;Mr.  Arens.  Have  you  ever  announced  to  the  membership  whether 
or  not  you  are  a  member  of  the  Communist  conspiracy? 
Mr.  Dichter.  I  will  have  to  invoke  the  fifth. 

Mr.  Arens.  Do  you  know  if  Travis  has  ever  announced  to  the  mem- 
bership whether  or  not  he  is  a  member  of  the  Communist  conspiracy  ? 
]\Ir.  Dichter.  I  will  have  to  invoke  the  fifth. 

Mr.  Arens.  Do  you  knoAv  if  John  Clark  has  ever  announced  to  the 
membership  whether  or  not  he  is  a  member  of  the  Communist 
conspiracy  ? 

Mr.  Dichter.  I  will  have  to  invoke  the  fifth,  sir. 
Mr.  Arens.  You  recognize  now,  do  you  not,  that  you  are  under  oath 
and  you  are  subject  to  the  pains  and  penalties  of  perjury  if  you  do 
not  tell  us  the  truth? 

Mr.  Dichter.  Sir,  I  recognize  that. 

Mr.  Arens.  When  you  are  released  from  your  oath  here  and  your 
obligation  to  tell  the  truth,  do  you  anticipate  that  you  are  going  to 
announce  to  the  membership,  "Of  course  I  am  not  a  Communist.  Of 
course  I  have  never  been  a  Communist,  but  I  am  not  going  to  tell  that 
witch-hunting  committee  I  am  not  a  Communist"  ?  Is  that  what  you 
propose  to  do  ? 
Mr.  Dichter.  Sir,  I  don't  know  what  I  propose  to  do. 
Mr.  Arens.  Why  do  you  not  stand  up  right  now  like  a  red-blooded 
American  and  deny  that  you  are  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party 
while  you  are  under  oath  ? 

INIr.  Dichter.  Are  you  asking  a  question  ? 
Mr.  Arens.  Yes,  sir. 
Mr.  Dichter.  I  invoke  the  fifth. 

Mr.  Arens.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  respectfully  suggest  that  would  con- 
clude the  staff  interrogation  of  this  witness. 
Mr.  AViLLis.  Call  your  next  witness,  please, 
^f r.  Arens.  Josephine  Willard,  please  come  forward. 


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5712       COMMUNIST  ACTIVITIES  IN  NEW  HAVEN,  CONN.,  AREA 

Please  remain  standing  while  the  chairman  administers  an  oath  to 
you. 

Mr.  Willis.  Will  you  raise  your  right  hand,  please  ? 

Do  you  solemnly  swear  that  the  testimony  you  are  about  to  give  will 
be  the  truth,  the  whole  truth  and  nothing  but  the  truth,  so  help  you 
God? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  I  do. 

Mr.  Chairman,  may  I  respectfully  suggest  that  the  cameras  be 
turned  off  ?     I  am  not  very  photogenic. 

TESTIMONY  OF  JOSEPHINE  WILLARD,  ACCOMPANIED  BY  COUNSEL, 

VINCENT  ZANELLA,  JR. 

Mr.  Arens.  Please,  identify  yourself  by  name,  residence,  and  occu- 
pation. 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  My  name  is  Josephine  Willard.  I  live  in  Bridge- 
port at  44  Eric  Street,  and  at  present  I  am  doing  some  office  work. 

Mr.  Arens.  Where  are  you  engaged  ? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  Where  am  I  engaged  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  Yes. 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  Well,  I  would  like  to — I  feel  that  that  question,  in 
my  opinion,  violates  my  rights  under  the  first,  fourth,  fifth,  ninth  and 
tenth  amendments. 

Mr.  Willis.  What  is  the  question  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  Where  she  works.     She  said  she  does  office  work. 

I  respectfully  suggest  that  the  witness  be  directed  and  ordered  to 
answer  that  question. 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  I  haven't  finished  my  answer,  Mr.  Chairman. 

I  further  decline  to  answer  the  question  because  I  feel  that  the 
information  sought  by  this  question  is  a  matter  of  public  record  avail- 
able to  the  public  generally,  and  I  think  that  the  question  seeks  to 
entrap  me. 

Well,  those  are  my  reasons. 

Mr.  Arens.  Tell  this  committee  before  we  proceed  if  any  Com- 
munist wrote  your  answer  on  that  card  from  which  you  are  reading  ? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  What  was  the  question  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  Did  any  Communist  participate  in  the  formulation  of 
that  answer  which  you  j  ust  gave  to  the  committee  ? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  Did  a  Communist  write  this  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  Yes.  Did  any  Communist  formulate  that  answer 
which  you  just  gave  to  the  committee  ? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  I  would  like  to  consult  with  my  attorney,  please. 

Mr.  Arens.  Surely. 

(The  witness  conferred  with  her  counsel.) 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  I  would  like  to  invoke  the  first  amendment  and  the 
fifth  amendment  on  that  question. 

Mr.  Arens.  Are  you  appearing  today  in  response  to  a  subpena  served 
upon  you  by  the  House  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Are  you  represented  by  counsel  ? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  Yes,  I  am. 

Mr.  Arens.  Will  counsel  kindly  identify  himself  ? 


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Mr.  Zanella.  Vincent  Zanella,  Jr.,  Bridgeport,  Conn.,  1115  INIain 
Street,  Bridgeport. 

Mr.  Arens.  Please  tell  this  committee  where  you  are  employed. 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  I  decline  to  answer  based  on  my  previous  reasons. 

Mr.  Arens.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  respectfully  suggest  that  this  record 
be  cleared  and  that  the  witness  be  ordered  and  directed  to  answer  that 
question. 

Mr,  AViLLis.  You  are  directed  to  answer  that  question. 

(The  witness  conferred  with  her  counsel.) 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  Do  I  have  to  ask  every  time  to  consult  my  counsel  ? 

Mr.  Willis.  You  may  consult  counsel  any  time  you  wish. 

(The  witness  conferred  with  her  counsel.) 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  What  was  the  question  again  in  relation  to  my  em- 
ployment ? 

Mr.  Arens.  Where  do  you  work  ? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  I  invoke  the  fifth  and  first  amendments. 

Mr.  Arens.  Now  the  record  is  clear  that  you  have  been  ordered  and 
directed  to  answer  that  question. 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  Yes. 

Mr.  Arens.  How  long  have  you  been  employed  in  your  present 
occupation  ? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  I  decline  to  answer,  based 

Mr.  Arens.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  respectfully  ask  that  the  witness  be 
directed  and  ordered  to  answer  that  question. 

Mr.  Willis.  You  are  directed  to  answer  the  question. 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  I  decline  to  answer,  based  on  the  first  and  fifth 
amendments. 

Mr.  Arens.  What  was  your  occupation  prior  to  your  present 
occupation  ? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  Well,  I  was  out  of  work  for  a  year  and  a  half. 

Mr.  Arens.  "Wlien  were  you  out  of  work  ? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  Prior  to  going  to  work  in  my  present  job. 

Mr.  Arens.  What  year  was  that  ? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  I  refuse  to  answer,  based  on  my  previous  answer. 

Mr.  Arens.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  respectfully  ask  that  the  witness  be 
ordered  and  directed  to  answer. 

Mr.  Willis.  You  are  directed  to  answer  the  question. 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  I  decline  to  answer,  based  on  the  previous  reasons. 

Mr.  Arens.  What  was  your  employment  prior  to  being  out  of  work 
for  a  year  and  a  half  ? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  I  decline  to  answer,  based  on  the  previous  reasons. 

Mr.  Arens.  Do  you  honestly  apprehend  that  if  you  told  this  com- 
mittee what  your  work  was  prior  to  the  time  you  became  unemployed 
for  a  year  and  a  half,  you  might  be  supplying  information  which 
might  be  used  against  you  in  a  criminal  proceeding  ? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  I  decline  to  answer,  based  on  the  previous  reasons, 
and  I  also  decline  to  answer  because  I  believe  that  this  question,  as  I 
said  before,  this  information  is  of  general  knowledge,  it  is  available  to 
the  public  generally,  and  I  think  the  question  is  seeking  to  entrap  me. 

I  further  decline  to  answer  this  question  because  I  believe  that  this 
question  seeks  to  elicit  information  which  is  beyond  the  scope  of  the 
permissible  inquiry  granted,  authorized  to  this  committee  by  congres- 


5714       COMMUNIST  ACTIVITIES  IN  NEW  HAVEN,  CONN.,  AREA 

sional  resolutions,  by  the  statutes,  and  by  the  United  States  Con- 
stitution. 

Mr.  Kearney.  Just  a  minute ;  that  is  a  very  nice  speech. 

Mrs.  WiuL-ARD.  I  don't  mean  to  make  a  speech.  Congressman.  I  am 
trying  to  give  my  reasons  for  declining  to  answer. 

Mr.  Kearney.  Well,  we  will  give  you  10  more  minutes  to  make  a 
speech  if  you  want  to. 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  I  don't  intend  to  make  a  speech. 

Mr.  Kearney.  How  could  that  simple  question,  asking  where  you 
were  employed,  entrap  you  ? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  Well,  you  see,  questions  of  this  type  are  available  to 
the  public  generally.  They  are  a  matter  of  public  record,  and  I  don't 
know  what  you  are  going  to  lead  into,  and  therefore  I  must  invoke  my 
privileges  under  the  Constitution. 

Mr.  Kearney.  If  you  do  not  know  what  we  are  going  to  lead  into, 
why  do  you  not  invoke  the  fifth  amendment  on  every  question  ? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  It  is  my  privilege.    If  I  feel 

Mr.  Kearney.  It  certainly  is  your  privilege. 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  If  there  is  an  avenue  that  I  am  not  aware  of. 

Mr.  Arens.  I  respectfully  suggest,  Mr.  Chairman,  that  the  witness 
be  ordered  to  answer  the  last  principal  question,  namely,  whether  or 
not  she  has  an  honest  apprehension  with  respect  to  the  preceding 
question. 

Mr.  Willis.  That  question  you  are  ordered  to  answer,  and  the  Chair 
informs  you,  although  you  have  counsel,  that  that  question  is  a  simple 
test  of  your  honesty  as  to  whether  you  are  invoking  the  protection  of 
the  fifth  amendment  in  a  legal,  constitutional  way. 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  What  was  the  question  that  it  was  referring  to  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  To  clear  the  record,  you  were  asked  to  give  us  the  occu- 
pation in  which  you  were  engaged  in  a  certain  period  of  your  life. 
You  declined  to  do  so  and  invoked  the  fifth  amendment. 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  I  invoked  the  first  and  fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Arens.  Yes,  ma'am. 

Then  we  asked  you  if  you  honestly  apprehended  that  if  you  gave  us 
a  truthful  answer  to  that  question,  you  would  be  supplying  informa- 
tion which  might  be  used  against  you  in  a  criminal  proceeding.  You 
have  thus  far  declined  to  answer  that  last  question. 

We  are  insisting  on  an  answer  to  that  last  question. 

(The  witness  conferred  with  her  counsel.) 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  Yes,  my  answer  to  that  question  is  "yes." 

Mr.  Willis.  Your  answer  is  Yes,  you  do  apprehend  ? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  Yes ;  I  do. 

Mr.  Arens.  Ma'am,  I  will  not  ask  you  when  but  where  were  you 
born. 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  I  was  born  in  Italy. 

Mr.  Arens.  When  did  you  come  to  the  United  States  ? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  I  came  when  I  was  1  year  old. 

Mr.  Arens.  Are  you  a  citizen  of  the  United  States  ? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  Yes ;  I  am. 

Mr.  Arens.  Is  that  by  derivation  or  naturalization  ? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  My  father  died  before  we  were  able  to  derive  it,  so 
I  became  naturalized. 

Mr.  Arens.  When  were  you  naturalized? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  I  was  naturalized  in  1941. 


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^Ir.  Arexs.  At  the  time  you  were  naturalized,  did  you  take  an  oath 
to  sui)port  and  defend  the  Constitution  of  tlie  United  States? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  Yes;  I  did. 

Mr.  Arkxs.  Did  you  have  any  mental  reservations  at  that  time? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  None  whatever. 

Mr.  Arens.  At  that  time  were  you  a  member  of  an  organization 
dedicated  to  the  overthrow  of  the  United  States  and  of  the  Constitu- 
tion by  force  and  violence? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  I  decline  to  answer,  based  on  all  my  previous  reasons. 

^Nlr.  Arens.  What  was  your  employment  immediately  preceding 
this  period  that  you  will  not  talk  about ;  this  blackout  period  ? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  I  don't  know  what  you  mean  by  "blackout  period." 

Mr.  Arens.  This  period  that  is  sort  of  shrouded  in  secrecy.  What 
was  your  employment  prior  to  the  time  you  were  unemployed  for  a 
year  and  a  half? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  Wliat  is  the  period  that  is  shrouded  in  secrecy  ? 

Mr.  Arexs.  This  period  that  you  will  not  tell  us  about. 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  About  the  year  and  a  half,  or  now  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  The  employment  you  had  immediately  prior  to  the  year- 
and-a-half  period  of  your  unemployment. 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  I  thought  I  answered  that  question  before  when  you 
asked  me  where  did  I  work. 

Mr.  Arens.  Answer  it  again,  please. 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  Excuse  me. 

(The  witness  conferred  with  her  counsel.) 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  I  decline  to  answer,  based  on  all  my  previous  reasons. 

Mr.  Arens.  Please  tell  us  where  you  were  educated. 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  I  was  educated  in  Bridgeport. 

Mr.  Arens.  Tell  us  the  nature  of  your  education. 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  Well,  what  do  you  refer  to  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  Did  you  go  to  high  school  ? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  Yes. 

Mr.  Arens.  Did  you  graduate  from  high  school  ? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  No ;  I  wasn't  able  to. 

Mr.  Arens.  How  many  years  did  you  complete  in  high  school  ? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  I  believe  I  was  in  my  fourth  year  when  I  had  to 
leave. 

Mr.  Arens.  What  year  was  that  ? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  I  believe  it  was  1932.  It  might  be  1931,  but  I  think 
it  was  1932. 

Mr.  Arens.  Please  pick  it  up  there  and  tell  us  your  occupation  im- 
mediately after  you  concluded  in  high  school  in  1932. 

(The  witness  conferred  with  her  counsel.) 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  It  is  rather  difficult.    It  is  quite  a  distance  away. 

Mr.  Arens.  Just  your  best  recollection,  the  first  principal  employ- 
ment. 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  I  remember  having  to  leave  high  school  because  my 
father  was  quite  ill,  and  we  helped  him  in  the  store,  a  hardware  and 
bicycle  store. 

Mr.  Arens.  Where  was  that? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  In  Bridgeport.  We  have  lived  all  our  life  in 
Bridgeport. 


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Mr.  Arens.  How  long  were  you  engaged  in  the  hardware  store  after 
you  left  high  school  ? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  Gee,  I  don't  remember. 

Mr.  Arens.  Would  it  be  a  matter  of  4  or  5  years  ? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  Not  that  long. 

Mr.  Arens.  Three  years? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  Possibly. 

Mr.  Arens.  Two  years? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  I  am  not  sure. 

Mr.  Arens.  As  much  as  2  years  ? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  I  would  say  so,  but  I  am  not  sure  about  that  period. 

Mr.  Arens.  Then  what  was  your  next  employment  after  you  left 
the  hardware  store? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  Frankly  and  honestly,  I  don't  remember  exactly 
where  I  went  to  work.  I  have  had  several  jobs  in  various  factories  in 
the  city  of  Bridgeport  but,  if  I  were  to  give  you  an  honest  answer,  I 
just  couldn't  tell  you.    There  were  several. 

Mr.  Arens.  What  is  the  first  job  about  which  you  do  have  an  honest 
recollection  ? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  I  know  I  worked  but  whether  it's  the  first,  fourth,  or 
fifth,  I  really  couldn't  tell  you. 

Mr.  Arens.  Tell  us  some  of  the  employments  that  you  have  had. 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  I  have  worked  in  Casco's. 

Mr.  Arens.  What  is  Casco's? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  Casco  Products  in  Bridgeport. 

Mr.  Arens.  What  is  that  establishment,  please  ? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  They  make  auto  cigarette  lighters,  one  of  the 
products. 

Mr.  Arens.  Tell  us  what  other  employment  you  had  in,  say,  the  late 
thirties. 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  As  I  say,  I  am  not  going  to  pin  myself.  You  say 
late  thirties  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  Your  best  recollection. 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  I  do  remember  working  in,  oh,  where  they  make 
parts  for  brake  linings,  Raybestos.     I  remember  working  there. 

Mr.  Arens.  ^Vhat  was  your  occupation  there,  clerical  ? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  No ;  I  was  doing  some  inspection  work  at  the  time. 

Mr.  Arens.  Is  there  another  establishment  that  comes  to  your  mind 
where  you  worked  during  this  period  of  time  ? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  I  really  don't  remember. 

Mr.  Arens.  Let  us  move  on  in  the  chronology  of  your  life. 

What  is  the  next  principal  employment  that  comes  to  your  mind  ? 

(The  witness  conferred  Avith  her  counsel.) 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  I  think,  well  the  next  period,  there  may  have  been 
other  places,  and  I  don't  remember  them,  but  the  next  period  that  I 
remember,  I  worked  in  the  garment  industry. 

Mr.  Arens.  Where  was  that,  please  ? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  There  were  several  small  places  in  the  city. 

Mr.  Arens.  Here  in  Connecticut? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD,  I  worked  in  Bridgeport  all  the  time. 


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Mr.  Arens.  Has  all  of  your  employment  been  in  Bridgeport  during 
your  adult  life  ? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  Yes. 

Mr.  Arens.  At  least  focalized  there  ? 

Mi-s.  Willard.  It  has  been  in  Bridgeport  as  far  as  I  remember. 

Mr.  Arens.  "VAHiat  did  you  do  in  the  garment  industry? 

Mre.  Willard.  I  was  an  operator. 

Mr.  Arens.  How  long  were  you  engaged  in  the  garment  industrj^  ? 

Mrs.  Willard.  Well,  we  were  unemployed  so  often,  it  was  on  and 
oflf,  I  don't  remember. 

Mr.  Arens.  Was  it  into  the  forties,  or  are  we  still  in  the  thirties? 

Mrs.  Wn.LARD.  I  would  say  it  went  into  the  forties. 

Mr.  Arens.  What  was  your  next  principal  employment  ? 

Mrs.  Willard.  That  I  decline  to  answer. 

Mr.  Arens.  Is  there  any  period,  beginning  after  1940  until  the 
present  da}^,  when  you  have  been  employed  in  an  occupation  you  can 
tell  us  about  without  furnishing  information  which  could  be  used 
against  you  in  a  criminal  proceeding  ? 

Mrs.  Willard.  Would  you  mind  repeating  that  again  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  Is  there  any  period  of  your  life  after  1940  in  which  you 
have  been  engaged  in  an  occupation  concerning  which  you  can  tell 
us  without  giving  information  which  could  be  used  against  you  in  a 
criminal  proceeding? 

Mrs.  Willard.  After  1940? 

Mr.  Arens.  Yes. 

Mrs.  Willard,  I  told  you  I  worked  in  the  garment  industry  into 
the  forties. 

Mr.  Arens.  How  late  into  the  forties  did  you  work  in  the  garment 
industry  ? 

(The  witness  conferred  with  her  counsel.) 

Mrs.  Willard.  May  I  respectfully  request  that  you  ask  the  question 
again  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  Yes. 

Is  there  any  period  in  your  life  from  the  time  that  you  left  the 
garment  industry  until  the  present  time  when  you  have  been 
engaged  in  an  occupation  concerning  which  you  could  not  tell  us 
without  disclosing  information  which  might  be  used  against  you  in 
a  criminal  proceeding? 

Mrs.  Willard.  In  an  occupation  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  Yes. 

(The  witness  conferred  with  her  counsel.) 

Mrs.  Willard.  The  answer  to  that  is  "No." 

Mr.  Arens.  Then  every  occupation  in  which  you  have  been  en- 
gaged since  the  early  forties  is  an  occupation  concerning  which,  if  you 
told  us,  you  would  be  supplying  information  which  could  be  used 
against  you  in  a  criminal  proceeding ;  is  that  true  ? 

(The  witness  conferred  with  her  counsel.) 

Mrs.  Willard.  I  invoke  the  first  and  fifth  amendments. 

Mr.  Arens.  I  do  not  believe  you  understood  it. 

Mrs.  Willard.  Maybe.     Perhaps  you  ought  to  repeat  it. 

Mr.  Arens.  Is  every  occupation  in  which  you  have  been  engaged 
since  you  left  the  garment  industry  in  the  early  forties  of  such  nature 


5718       COMIMUNIST  ACTIVITIES  IN  NEW  HAVEN,  CONN.,  AREA 

that,  if  you  told  us  about  it,  you  would  be  supplying  information 
wliicli  could  be  used  against  you  in  a  criminal  proceeding  ? 

(The  witness  conferred  with  her  counsel.) 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  I  decline  to  answer 

Mr.  Arens.  I  respectfully  suggest,  Mr.  Chairman,  the  witness  be 
ordered  and  directed  to  answer  that  question. 

Mr.  Willis.  You  are  dii-ected  to  answer  the  question. 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  I  invoke  the  first  and  fifth  amendments. 

Mr.  Arens.  Now,  in  the  course  of  your  labors  in  the  vineyard, 
were  you  connected  Avith  the  United  Electrical,  Eadio  and  Machine 
Workers  Union  ? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  I  didn't  get  that  question.  Something  about  the 
vineyard  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  Well,  your  labors,  your  occupations.  Have  you  been 
employed  in  the  United  Electrical  Workers  Union  ? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  Have  I  been  employed  by  the  United  Electrical? 

Mr.  Arens.  Yes. 

Have  you  been  identified,  been  a  member  of,  or  affiliated  with,  the 
United  Electrical  Workers,  UE  ? 

(The  witness  conferred  with  her  counsel.) 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  I  invoke  the  first  and  fifth  amendments  and  all  of 
the  other  reasons  that  I  have  given  previously. 

Mr.  Arens.  Do  you  honestly  apprehend  if  you  told  this  committee 
whether  or  not  you  have  ever  been  identified  with  the  Electrical 
Workers,  you  would  be  giving  information  which  could  be  used  against 
you  in  a  criminal  proceeding? 

(The  witness  conferred  with  her  counsel.) 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  The  answer  is  "Yes." 

Mr.  Arens.  You  have  also  been  an  author  in  the  course  of  your 
career ;  have  you  not  ? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  I  invoke  the  first  and  fifth  amendments.  I  don't 
know  what  avenue  you  are  going  to  get  involved  with. 

Mr.  Arens.  Have  you  been  an  author  ? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  In  what  sense,  a  formal  sense  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  Have  you  written  articles  ? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  I  invoke  the  first  and  fifth  amendments. 

Mr.  Arens.  Would  you  tell  this  committee  now  if  you  have  a  recol- 
lection about  your  happiest  birthday?  Did  you  have  one  birthday 
in  your  life  that  stands  out  as  one  of  the  happiest  birthdays  ? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  I  must  confess,  sir,  that  every  birthday  of  mine  is 
a  very,  very  happy  one  and  we  have  a  good  time. 

Mr.  Arens.  Did  you  have  one  that  stands  out  in  your  mind  above 
all  others  ? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  It's  not  my  16th. 

Mr.  Arens.  Was  there  one  that  does  stand  out  in  your  mind  as  being 
your  happiest  birthday  ? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD,  Well,  I  must  repeat  that  all  my  birthday  parties, 
and  I  have  had  them  every  year,  have  been  very  happy  and  gay  ones, 
and  I  hoped  everybody  had  a  gay  time.    I  know  I  always  did. 

Mr.  Arens.  But  is  there  one  that  stands  out  in  your  mind  as  being 
one  of  your  most  happy  occasions  ? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  I  always  feel  the  last  one  was  the  happiest. 

Mr.  Arens.  Did  you  write  an  article  about  your  happiest  birthday  ? 

(The  witness  conferred  with  her  counsel.) 


COMMUNIST  ACTIVITIES  IN  NEW  HAVEN,  CONN.,  AREA       5719 

Mr.  Arens.  Perhaps  this  might  refresh  your  recollection. 

I  am  going  to  lay  before  you  an  article  which  appears  in  a  publica- 
tion called  Contact.    Did  you  ever  hear  of  that  publication,  Contact  ? 

( The  witness  conferred  with  her  counsel. ) 

iVIr.  Arens.  This  article  is  entitled  "My  Happiest  Birthday  .  .  . 
and  Why,"  by  Josephine  Willard. 

For  about  five  years  I  was  the  section  chairman  of  my  division,  where  about 
300  women  and  40  men  manufactured  the  electric  blanket.  We  are  noted  for 
having  the  best  stewards,  highest  pay,  and  best  working  conditions  of  any 
division  in  the  whole  plant.  This  is  no  accident.  We  have  led  in  every  struggle 
for  better  working  conditions. 

As  a  member  of  the  Executive  Board  for  the  past  5  years,  I  held  many  responsi- 
ble positions  in  the  imion.  I  was  chairman  of  the  legislative  and  educational 
committee,  editor  of  the  shop  paper,  and  publicity  director  during  the  strike. 

What  is  a  Communist? 

In  1946,  I  ran  for  State  Representative  on  the  Communist  Party  ticket.  While 
the  majority  of  the  people  of  my  division  and  the  whole  shop  knew  I  was  a 
Communist,  still  some  were  surprised  and  even  shocked.  The  stewards  of  my 
division — all  non-Communists — decided  that  their  people  should  learn  what 
Communism  is — not  from  a  non-Communist  but  from  a  member  of  the  Party. 
Two  days  later  I  was  handed  a  petition  with  about  150  names,  requesting  a  sec- 
tion meeting  to  answer  the  following  questions  : 

1.  Why  are  you  a  Communist? 

2.  What  is  Communism? 

3.  What  is  the  difference  between  the  Communist  Party  and  a  union? 

More  than  100  men  and  women  attended  the  meeting.  Non-Communists  spoke 
during  the  discussion,  saying  that  for  the  first  time  in  their  lives  they  had 
heard  an  explanation  of  Communism.  *  *  * 

Then  the  article  speaks  about  Red  baiting  and  hysteria,  and  the 
whole  city  buzzed  with  anti-Communist  hysteria.  Then  it  winds  up 
with  a  birthday  greeting : 

"A  Happy  Birthday  to  our  champion,  Joe  Willard,  who  labors  day  and  night 
so  that  others  may  have  life,  liberty,  and  happiness.  We  of  the  second  shift 
Automatic  Blanket  wish  you  good  luck  and  the  fullest  realization  of  your  fondest 
dreams." 

I  lay  this  article  before  you.  I  have  read  only  a  few  excerpts  from 
it,  but  I  would  like  you  to  tell  this  committee  whether  or  not  that  re- 
freshes your  recollection  of  your  literary  pursuits  during  the  course 
of  the  blackout  period,  concerning  which  you  cannot  give  information 
because  it  could  be  used  against  you  in  a  criminal  proceeding.  Does 
that  refresh  your  recollection? 

Mrs.  Willard.  About  my  happiest  birthday,  you  mean  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  Yes. 

Mrs.  Willard.  I  have  had  many  happy  birthdays.  I  refuse  to 
answer  that  question. 

Mr.  Arens.  Do  you  recall  that  happy  birthday  occasion  that  you 
wrote  about  ? 

Mrs.  Willard.  I  refuse  to  answer  that  question,  based  on  the  first 
and  fifth  amendments. 

yir.  Arens.  Are  you  the  author  of  the  article  ? 

Mrs.  Willard.  I  refuse  to  answer. 

Mr.  Arens.  I  put  it  to  you  as  a  fact,  and  ask  you  to  affirm  or  deny 
it  is  a  fact,  that  you  are  the  author  of  that  article,  and  that  you  were 
a  Communist  and  that  this  was  written  by  yourself  in  the  Communist 
pul.ilication.  Contact.     If  it  is  not  true,  please  deny  it  under  oath. 

84046— 56— pt.  2 4 


5720       COMMUNIST  ACTIVITIES  IN  NEW  HAVEN,  CONN.,  AREA 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  I  refuse  to  answer  that  question,  based  on  the  1st, 
4th,  5th,  9th,  10th,  and  14th  amendments. 

Mr.  Arens.  Could  you  tell  us  some  of  your  political  activities  during 
this  period  about  which  you  do  not  want  to  talk  ? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  My  political  activities? 

Mr.  Arens.  Yes. 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  I  refuse  to  answer  that  question,  based  on  the 
previous  reasons  I  have  just  given. 

Mr.  Arens.  Have  you  ever  sacrificed  yourself  on  the  altar  of  public 
service,  as  a  candidate  ? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  I  refuse  to  answer  that  question,  based  on  my  pre- 
vious reasons. 

Mr.  Arens.  Now  I  should  like  to  lay  before  j^ou  a  photostatic  copy 
of  an  article  appearing  in  the  Sunday  Herald  of  Bridgeport,  Conn., 
February  23,  1947,  "Commie  Fight  Linked  With  National  Drive,"  in 
which,  among  other  things,  the  following  appears : 

Mrs.  Josephine  Willard,  who  ran  for  State  representative  on  the  Communist 
ticket  last  November  *  *  * 

Would  you  kindly  look  at  that  and  tell  us  whether  or  not  you  are  the 
Josephine  Willard  alluded  to  there  as  the  person  who  ran  on  the  Com- 
munist Party  ticket  in  November  1946  ? 

(The  witness  conferred  with  her  counsel.) 

Mrs.  Willard.  I  invoke  the  first  and  fifth  amendments. 

Mr.  Arens.  Did  you  ever  bring  a  suit  against  the  Sunday  Herald  for 
defaming  your  character,  saying  that  you  were  actually  a  Communist 
as  they  say  here  ? 

Mrs.  Willard.  Did  I  bring  a  suit  against  the  Herald  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  Yes. 

Mrs.  Willard.  I  refuse  to  answer. 

Mr.  Arens.  You  know,  do  you  not,  that  if  a  person  calls  another 
person  a  Communist,  and  he  is  not,  the  one  who  calls  him  a  Commmiist 
is  subject  to  a  libel  action ;  do  you  know  that  ? 

It  is  a  pretty  awful  thing  these  days  to  call  a  person  a  Communist. 
Now  you  know,  ma'am,  that  as  a  witness  before  this  committee  you  are 
entitled  to  certain  pay.  I  think  you  get  $7  or  $9  a  day,  but  in  order  to 
do  so  you  have  to  sign  a  pay  voucher.  Would  you  care  to  sign  that 
pay  voucher  while  you  are  under  oath  ? 

Mrs.  Willard.  My  understanding  of  the  rules  of  this  committee  is 
that  you  only  get  paid  after  you  are  through  testifying. 

Mr.  Arens.  Do  you  care  to  sign  your  pay  voucher  now  ? 

Mrs.  Willard.  If  you  ask  me  to  sign  beforehand,  wouldn't  that  be  a 
violation  of  the  rules  of  the  committee  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  Would  you  care  to  sign  that  pay  voucher  now  ? 


COlSmUNIST  ACTIVITIES  IX  NEW  ILWEX,  CONN.,  AREA       5721 

There  is  nothing'  in  the  rules  about  when  you  should  sign  it,  but 
before  we  pay  you,  you  have  to  sign.  Would  you  care  to  sign  while  you 
are  under  oath? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  Why  must  I  sign  now  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  I  ask  if  you  care  to  sign  the  pay  voucher  now  ? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  You  insist  that  I  take  my  money  first  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  I  ask  if  you  will  sign  your  name  to  the  pay  voucher  now 
so  we  can  see  your  signature. 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  You  want  to  see  my  sigiiature  ? 

Mr.  Arexs.  We  want  to  see  your  signature. 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  I  will  be  glad  to  do  that. 

(The  witness  conferred  with  her  counsel.) 

Mr.  Kearney.  It  is  a  very  polite  hearing,  at  least. 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  He  is  very  polite. 

Where  would  you  like  me  to  sign,  or  does  it  matter  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  Eight  there  where  it  says  "Payee" ;  that  is  the  voucher. 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  How  much  is  the  witness  fee  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  $7  or  $9. 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  Let  me  sign  first  so  that  you  can  see  my  name. 
Where  does  this  tell  about  how  much  money  we  are  going  to  get? 

Mr.  Collins.  Right  on  the  next  page. 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  On  this  sheet? 

Mr.  Collins.  Yes. 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  $9,  Mr.  Arens. 

Mr.  Arens.  I  do  not  know ;  Mr.  Collins  handles  those  matters. 

Mr.  Kearney.  Whatever  it  is,  you  will  get  it. 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  I  signed,  so  I  imagine  I  will  get  it. 

Mr.  Arens.  This  is  your  signature  which  you  have  just  aflixed  to  this 
voucher. 

Mr.  Chairman,  I  respectfully  suggest  that  this  voucher  be  marked 
"Willard  Exhibit  No.  1"  and  incorporated  in  the  record. 

Mr.  Willis.  It  may  be  incorporated. 

(The  document  referred  to,  marked  "Willard  Exhibit  No.  1,"  was 
incorporated  in  the  record.) 

Mr.  Arens.  Now  I  should  like  to  show  you  a  photostatic  copy  of  a 
nominating  petition  for  1946  elections  for  State  representative  of  the 
Communist  Party,  bearing  the  signature  of  one  Josephine  Willard. 
The  first  name  on  this  nominating  petition  is  Josephine  Willard,  555 


5722       COMMUNIST  ACTIVITIES  IN  NEW  HAVEN,  CONN.,  AREA 

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Mrs.  WiLLARD.  I  invoke  the  first  and  fifth  amendments. 

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on  the  basis  of  any  past  recollection,  the  two  signatures  look  alike  ? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  I  invoke  the  first  and  fifth  amendments. 

Mr.  Arens.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  respectfully  suggest  that  the  photo- 
static copy  of  the  signature  on  the  nominating  petition  I  have  just 
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COM.MUXIST  ACTIVITIES  IN  NEW  ILWEN,  CONN.,  AREA       5723 

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5724       COMMUNIST  ACTIVITIES  IN  NEW  HAVEN,  CONN.,  AREA 

Mr.  Arens.  Mrs.  Willard,  I  lay  before  you  a  photostatic  copy  of  a 
leaflet  or  flyer  with  a  photograph  on  it.  Unfortunately,  the  photo- 
graph is  not  too  clear.    Do  you  usually  photograph  better  than  this? 

Mrs.  Willard.  I  usually  don't  photograph  well.  That  is  why  I 
asked  the  cameramen  not  to  take  my  picture. 

Mr.  Arens.  This  reads  "Jo  Willard,  a  workers'  candidate  for  State 
representative.    Vote  Communist.    Pull  fifth  lever." 

It  was  issued  by  the  Communist  Party  of  Bridgeport,  231  Fairfield 
Avenue,  telephone  5-2613. 

Tell  us  whether  or  not  you  are  the  person  whose  photograph  appears 
there,  and  whether  or  not  you  are  the  person  alluded  to  in  that 
exhibit. 

(The  witness  conferred  with  her  counsel.) 

Mrs.  Willard.  I  invoke  the  first  and  fifth  amendments,  sir.  Would 
you  like  to  have  this  back  ? 

Mr.  Kearney.  Was  that  a  petition  to  run  on  the  Communist  Party  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  This  last  document,  General,  was  a  flyer  bearing  a 
photograph  which  was  not  too  flattering. 

Mr.  Kearney.  Is  that  a  political  party,  the  Communist  Party? 

Mr.  Arens.  The  preceding  exhibit  is  a  nominating  petition  for 
State  representative  on  the  Communist  Party  for  one  Josephine  Wil- 
lard, bearing  a  signature  which,  curiously  enough,  has  a  striking  re- 
semblance to  the  signature  which  appears  now  on  the  pay  voucher  for 
the  instant  witness. 

Mr.  Kearney.  This  Communist  Party;  is  that  a  political  party? 

(The  witness  conferred  with  her  counsel.) 

Mrs.  Willard.  Did  you  ask  me  if  I  believe  that  the  Communist 

Mr.  Kearney.  I  asked,  is  the  Communist  Party  a  political  party? 

Mrs.  Willard.  To  my  understanding. 

Mr.  Kearney.  Then  why  are  people  so  secretive  when  they  run 
for  office  on  the  Communist  Party  ticket  that  they  always  invoke  the 
fifth  amendment  ? 

Mrs.  Willard.  You  see,  sir,  the  Constitution  guarantees  that  we 
do  not  have  to  talk  about  our  religion  and  our  politics,  and  I  feel  that 
it  is  an  infringement  on  my  personal  rights. 

Mr.  Kearney.  I  should  think,  for  the  benefit  of  your  party,  and 
assuming  you  are  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party,  it  would  be 
rather  hard  to  campaign  on  the  ticket  when  you  did  not  even  know 
your  own  members. 

(The  witness  conferred  with  her  counsel.) 

Mr.  Kearney.  That  would  be  in  contrast,  would  it  not,  to  the  two 
great  political  parties  of  our  Nation  today  ? 

Imagine  if  all  the  Democrats  and  all  the  Republicans  were  hiding 
in  secrecy.  How  would  these  candidates  running  for  office  know  who 
to  approach  to  ask  them  to  vote  for  them  ? 

(The  witness  conferred  with  her  counsel.) 

Mrs.  Willard.  Mr.  Kearney,  I  believe  that  there  will  come  a  time 
when  people  will  be  very  glad  and  proud  to  tell  about  their  politics,  and 
many  other  things  that  they  believe  in,  but  it's  rather  difficult  in  a 
period  of  hysteria  to  go  into  things  of  that  sort. 

Mr.  Kearney.  Now  that  is  old  stuff. 

Mrs.  Willard.  I  hope  it's  old  stuff. 


COMAIUXIST  ACTIVITIES  IN  NEW  HAVEN,  CONN.,  AREA       5725 

Mr.  Kearney.  I  read  it  in  the  paper  this  morning. 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  I  hope  things  will  be  better  for  everybody. 

Mr.  Kearney.  I  read  in  the  paper  this  morning  about  a  witness  who 
I  think  was  the  first  witness  we  had  before  us.  He  said  that  these  hear- 
ings here  today  are  worse  than  the  Salem  witch  hunts. 

How  many  votes  did  you  get  when  you  ran  for  State  representative 
on  the  Communist  ticket  ? 

Mrs.  WiLLARD.  I  invoke  the  first  and  fifth  amendment,  sir 

Mr.  Arens.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  respectfully  suggest  that  in  the  pres- 
ence of  this  witness,  another  witness  be  requested  to  come  forward  and 
be  sworn. 

Miss  Rowena  Paumi,  would  you  kindly  come  forward? 

Remain  standing  while  the  chairman  administers  an  oath  to  you. 

Mr.  Willis.  Raise  your  right  hand,  please. 

Do  you  solemnly  swear  that  the  testimony  you  are  about  to  give 
will  be  the  truth,  the  whole  truth,  and  nothing  but  the  truth,  so  help 
you  God  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  I  do. 

TESTIMONY  OF  ROWENA  R.  PAUMI 

Mr.  Arens.  Kindly  identify  yourself  by  name,  residence,  and  occu- 
pation. 

Miss  Paumi.  Rowena  R.  Paumi,  83  DeForest  Avenue,  Bridgeport, 
Conn.    I  am  now  a  Bridgeport  hairdresser. 

Mr.  Arens.  Miss  Paumi,  I  expect  subsequently  in  the  proceedings 
today  to  interrogate  you  at  length,  but  I  should  like  at  this  time  to 
ask  you  if  you  have  ever  been  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  And  over  what  period  of  time  have  you  been  a  member 
of  the  Communist  Party  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  Well,  when  I  joined  the  Communist  Party,  it  was  in 
1941,  the  latter  part  of  August,  but  I  first  was  a  member  of  the  Young 
Communist  League  in  1941. 

Mr.  Arens.  Then  give  us,  if  you  would,  please,  just  a  thumbnail 
sketch  of  your  career  in  the  Communist  Party. 

Miss  Paumi.  Well,  I  was  in  the  Communist  Party  until  the  latter 
part  of  1942,  and  then  I  became  inactive. 

Mr.  Arens.  You  were  at  that  time  ideologically  identified  with  the 
party  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  That  is  right. 

Mr.  Arens.  Tell  us  what  happened  subsequently. 

Miss  Paumi.  Subsequently  to  that  I  broke  with  the  party,  and  I 
was  approached  by  the  Federal  Bureau  of  Investigation,  and  they 
asked  me  if  I  would  rejoin  the  party  at  their  request,  and  I  did. 

Mr.  Arens.  How  long  were  you  in  the  Communist  Party  at  the  be- 
hest of  the  Federal  Bureau  of  Investigation  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  I  was  in  until  the  latter  part  of  1945,  and  I  had  to 
become  inactive  because  of  the  death  of  my  parents.  Then  I  joined 
again,  in  the  latter  part  of  1948.    I  was  reactivated  by  Mike  Rui^so. 

Mr.  Arens.  You  served  in  the  party  until  when  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  To  the  week  that  I  testified. 


5726       COMMUNIST  ACTIVITIES  EST  NEW  HAVEN,  CONN.,  AREA 

Mr.  Arens.  In  this  year,  1956? 

Miss  Paumi.  That  is  right. 

Mr.  Arens.  From  1943  on,  all  of  your  service  in  the  Communist 
Party  was  solely  and  exclusively  for  the  purpose  of  serving  your 
Government  to  procure  information  which  was  transmitted  to  the 
Federal  Bureau  of  Investigation;  is  that  correct? 

Miss  Paumi.  That  is  right,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  As  I  say,  I  expect  to  interrogate  you  at  length  on  other 
matters,  but  for  the  present  I  should  like  to  ask  you  if,  in  the  course 
of  your  service  in  the  Communist  Party,  you  had  occasion  to  make 
the  acquaintanceship  of  a  person  by  the  name  of  Josephine  Willard? 

Miss  Paumi.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Wliere  did  you  know  that  person  as  a  Communist  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  In  Bridgeport,  Conn. 

Mr.  Arens.  And  in  what  capacity  did  you  know  that  person  as  a 
Communist? 

Miss  Paumi.  When  I  first  met  her  in  1941, 1  knew  her  as  an  execu- 
tive board  member  of  the  Communist  Party  in  Bridgeport. 

Mr.  Arens.  Do  you  see  in  the  courtroom  today  the  person  whom 
you  knew  as  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Would  you  please  point  her  out  to  the  House  Connnittee 
on  Un-American  Activities  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  She  is  sitting  on  my  left. 

Mr.  Arens.  Is  there  any  doubt  in  your  mind  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  No,  sir. 

TESTIMONY  OF  JOSEPHINE  WILLARD— Resumed 

Mr.  Arens.  Now,  Mrs.  Willard,  would  you  please  look  at  the  lady 
who  just  testified  under  oath,  and  tell  us  whether  or  not  she  was  lying 
or  whether  she  was  telling  the  truth  when  she  identified  you  as  a  mem- 
ber of  the  Communist  Party  ? 

Mrs.  Wn-LARD.  Her? 

Mr.  Arens.  Yes.  Was  she  lying  or  was  she  telling  the  truth? 
Look  her  in  the  eye. 

Mrs.  WiLi.ARD.  Look  her  in  the  eye  and  tell  her  or  you  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  Look  her  in  the  eye. 

Mr.  Willis.  Tell  it  to  your  conscience.  You  are  under  oath  before 
this  committee. 

Mrs.  Willard.  I  refuse  to  answer  that  question,  based  on  the  first 
and  fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Arens.  That  will  be  all  for  the  moment.  Miss  Paumi. 

Have  you,  Mrs.  Willard,  ever  known  a  person  by  the  name  of  W.  C. 
Mosher? 

(The  witness  conferred  with  her  counsel.) 

Mr.  Arens.  Worden  Mosher  ? 

(The  witness  conferred  with  her  counsel.) 

Mrs.  Willard.  I  have  to  take  the  first  and  fifth,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Mr.  Mosher  yesterday  took  an  oath  and  laid  his  liberty 
on  the  line  and  testified  before  this  committee  that  he  knew  you  when 
he  served  as  an  undercover  agent  for  the  Federal  Bureau  of  Investi- 
gation in  the  Communist  Party.  He  knew  you  as  a  member  of  the 
Communist  conspiracy.   Was  he  lying  or  was  he  telling  the  truth  ? 


COMMUNIST  ACTIVITIES  IN  NEW  HAVEN,  CONN.,  AREA       5727 

Mrs.  "WiLLARD.  I  refuse  to  answer,  based  on  the  first  and  fifth 
amendment. 

Mr.  Arens.  Mr.  Kent,  would  you  kindly  stand  up  back  there,  please, 
sir? 

Would  you  please  look  over  your  right  shoulder,  Mrs.  Willard,  at 
that  man  and  tell  us  whether  or  not  you  have  ever  seen  him  before  ? 

Mrs.  Wtllakd.  The  one  standing  up? 

Mr.  Arens.  Yes,  wearing  tlie  blue  suit. 

Mrs.  Willard.  I  refuse  to  answer,  based  on  the  first  and  hfth 
amendment. 

Mr.  Arens.  That  man  laid  his  liberty  on  the  line  and  testified  under 
oath  before  this  committee  2  days  ago  that  while  he  was  an  under- 
cover agent  for  the  FBI  in  the  Communist  Party  he  knew  you  as  a 
member  of  the  Communist  Party.  While  you  are  under  oath,  tell  us, 
was  he  lying  or  was  he  telling  the  truth  ? 

Mrs.  Willard.  I  refuse  to  answer  that  question,  based  on  the  first 
and  fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Arens.  I  put  it  to  you  as  a  fact  and  ask  you  to  affirm  or  deny 
it  is  a  fact  that  you  are  presently  a  Communist. 

Mrs.  Willard.  I  refuse  to  answer  that,  based  on  all  the  reasons  I 
have  previously  given. 

Mr.  Arens.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  respectfully  suggest  that  would  con- 
clude the  staff  interrogation  of  this  witness. 

Mr.  Willis.  The  witness  will  be  excused. 

Mrs.  Willard.  Thank  you. 

Mr.  Willis.  The  committee  will  take  a  5-minute  recess. 

(A  short  recess  was  taken.) 

Mr.  Willis.  The  subcommittee  will  come  to  order. 

Counsel  will  call  the  next  witness. 

Mr.  Arens.  Miss  Rowena  Paumi,  kindly  resume  the  witness  stand. 

TESTIMONY  OF  ROWENA  R.  PAUMI— Resumed 

Mr.  Arens.  Miss  Paumi,  you  previously  have  been  sworn  and  stated 
the  facts  respecting  your  Communist  Party  affiliations,  did  you  not? 

Miss  Paumi.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Now,  would  you  kindly  tell  us  the  various  posts  which 
you  held  in  the  Communist  Party,  particularly  while  you  were  an 
undercover  agent  for  the  Federal  Bureau  of  Investigation  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  Well,  at  one  time  I  collected  dues  for  my  group,  and 
another  time  I  served  on  the  membersliip  committee,  on  the  pi'ess  com- 
mittee, and  social  committees;  another  time  on  the  Browder  Brigade. 
There  were  so  many  committees,  I  can't  think  of  all  of  them  at  the 
moment. 

Mr.  Arens.  Would  you  kindly  tell  us  the  units,  fractions,  or  cells  of 
the  Communist  conspiracy  to  which  you  were  attached  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  Wlien  I  first  joined  the  Communist  Party,  I  was 
attached  to  the  Decca  branch. 

Mr.  Arens.  Where  was  that  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  Bridgeport,  Conn. 

Mr.  Arens.  Decca  Records  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  It  was  a  small  branch  of  Decca  Records,  consisting  of 

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5728       COMMUNIST  ACTIVITIES  IN  NEW  HAVEN,  CONN.,  AREA 

the  members  worked  in  Decca,  Communists  belonging  to  the  Decca 
branch. 

Mr.  Arens.  Will  you  please  do  this :  as  you  identify  a  group,  branch, 
fraction  or  cell,  will  you  kindly  tell  us  the  names  of  the  persons  who, 
to  your  certain  knowledge,  were  Communist  Party  members  of  each  ? 

Miss  Patjmi.  In  the  branch  that  I  was  in  in  Decca,  starting  in  chron- 
ological order  first  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  Yes,  please. 

Miss  Paumi.  At  that  time,  I  recall  they  were  myself,  Harriet  Gold- 
ring 

Mr.  Arens.  Spell  that  last  name  and  spell  any  name  that  is  not 
easily  ascertainable. 

Miss  Paumi.  G-o-l-d-r-i-n-g. 

Ther.i  was  a  Jack  Finn. 

Mr.  Arens.  F-i-n-n  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  That  is  right,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  What  year  was  this,  please  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  Oh,  I  would  say  in  the  latter  part  of  1941. 

There  was  a  Jack  Wyman  for  a  short  time,  W-y-m-a-n. 

Mv.  AnENS.  Have  you  told  us  the  principal  leaders  of  the  cell  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  Well,  yes.  It  was  such  a  small  branch.  Later  we 
became  the  Decca-Columbia  branch. 

Mr.  Arens.  Now,  please  tell  us  of  any  other  units  with  which  you 
were  identified  in  the  Communist  Party. 

Miss  Paumi.  Later  I  belonged  to  Decca-Columbia  branch,  and  after 
that  we  became  the  Bridgeport  Club. 

Mr.  Arens.  The  Decca-Columbia  branch  went  througli  a  transition 
into  the  Bridgeport  Club;  is  that  correct? 

Miss  Paumi.  That  is  right. 

Mr.  Arens.  Can  you  give  us  the  names  of  any  persons  who,  to  your 
certain  knowledge,  were  identified  with  the  Bridgeport  Club? 

Miss  Paumi.  Mostly  everybody  in  Bridgeport  belonged  to  the 
Bridgeport  Club. 

Mr.  Arens.  You  mean  most  of  the  Bridgeport  Communists  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  That  is  right. 

You  see,  before  we  became  the  Bridgeport  Club,  I  forgot  to  men- 
tion, we  were  a  few  branches,  such  as  the  North  End  branch  and  East 
End  branch,  and  that  didn't  last  long,  and  then  we  became  one  branch, 
which  was  the  Bridgeport  Club. 

Mr.  Arens.  Give  us  the  names  of  those  who,  to  your  certain  knowl- 
edge, were  members  of  the  Bridgeport  Club  and  were  Communists. 

Miss  Paumi.  There  were  Josephine  Willard,  Frank  Peterson,  Lou- 
ise Sito,  S-i-t-o,  Esther  Bailin,  B-a-i-1-i-n,  Frank  Fazekas,  Bill  Pistey, 
Oliver  Arsenault. 

From  the  GE,  let's  see,  now,  there  were  quite  a  few  from  there. 

Mr.  Arens.  Have  you  given  us  the  principal  names  occurring  to 
you  at  the  present  time  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  How  recently  were  you  in  the  Bridgeport  Club  ? 


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COMMUNIST  ACTR'ITIES  IN  NEW  HAVEN,  CONN.,  AREA       5729 

Miss  Paumi.  Till  10-15,  when  we  had  a  transition  then  from  the 
Commnnist  Political  Association  to  the  (^onnnunist  Party. 

Mr.  Arexs.  Is  there  another  unit  with  M'liich  you  were  identified  in 
the  Communist  Party? 

Miss  Paumi.  Yes,  sir.  When  I  was  reinstated  in  the  latter  part  of 
1948,  I  was  put  in  the  12-1^  branch,  and  then  from  there  East  End 
branch,  then  from  the  East  End  branch  we  went  back  to  a  small  group 
which  consisted  of  the  Yellow  Mill  Village,  the  Success  Park,  and 
12-B  together.  Then  we  became  a  Aery  small  group  which  consisted 
mainly  of  a  few  people  from  Success  Park,  East  End,  and  12-B. 

^Ir.  Arexs.  Do  you  have  a  recollection  of  those  who,  to  your  cer- 
tain knowledge,  were  Communist  members  of  that  unit? 

Miss  Paumi.  Yes ;  they  were  Lois  Barnes  in  this  latter  group,  Louise 
Sito,  ]Mary  Farkas,  Addie  and  Harold  Rogers  in  that  group,  and  for 
a  short  time  Jean  Lindsey  and  Louise  Sito  were  in  that  group. 

Mr.  Arexs.  How  recently  did  you  know  Lois  Barnes  as  a  member  of 
the  Communist  Party  ? 

Miss  Paimi.  Until  the  time  I  testified  in  1956. 

Mr.  Willis.  That  is  this  year. 

Miss  Paumi.  This  year. 

Mr.  Willis.  Just  a  few  months  ago. 

Miss  Pau^ii.  That  is  right,  sir. 

Mr.  Arexs.  Is  there  another  group  with  which  you  were  identi- 
fied in  the  Communist  Party  ? 

]Miss  Paumi.  Yes;  I  was  in  a  small  group  which  was  Pearl  Russo's 
group.     I  Avas  in  with  her  for  a  short  time. 

Mr.  Arexs.  Where  was  that? 

Miss  Paumi.  That  was  in  Bridgeport,  Conn. 

Mr.  Arexs.  Who  else  was  in  that  group? 

jNIiss  Pai  MI.  Well,  it  was  Pearl,  myself,  Emmett  Sykes,  S-y-k-e-s, 
Al  Sutton,  FoxAvorth,  a  man  from  the  Brass  and  I  forget  his  first  name. 

]\Ir.  Arexs.  Are  those  the  principal  persons  AA-hose  names  come  to 
your  mind  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  That  is  right,  sir. 

Mr.  Arex's.  Do  you  here  and  now  identify  each  of  those  persons 
you  haA'e  just  named  as  a  person  who,  to  your  certain  knowledge, 
was  a  member  of  the  Communist  conspiracy  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Arexs.  Is  there  another  group  or  unit  Avith  which  you  Avere 
identified  ( 

Miss  Paumi.  Well,  the  East  End,  AAdiich  Avas  the  East  End  branch, 
■  consisting  of  YelloAA^  Mill  Village  and  the  12-B.  There  Avere  quite 
a  feAA-  in  that  branch  and  they  were — I  recall  some  of  them  at  this 
time,  they  AA'ere  Mike  and  Grace  Yiichnick 

Mr.  Arexs.  Spell  that  last  name,  please,  ma'am.  At  least  giA'^e  us  a 
phonetic  spelling. 

Miss  Paumi.  Y-u-c-h-n-i-c-k.  There  was  a  Joe  Thompson,  and  I 
can't  seem  to  recall  all  of  them  at  this  time  aa'Iio  were  in  that  branch. 

Mr.  Arexs.  Did  you  haA^e  an  affiliation  AAdth  the  State  entity  of  the 
Communist  Party  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  Well,  I  Avas  asked  to  sit  in  on  some  of  the  State  com- 
mittee meetings. 


5730       COMMUNIST  ACTIVITIES  IN  NEW  HAVEN,  CONN.,  AREA 

Mr.  -Arens.  Were  those  closed  meetings? 

Miss  Paumi.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Aeens.  Permissible  only  to  Commmiists? 

Miss  Paumi.  That  is  right,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  To  your  certain  knowledge,  are  there  other  persons,  not 
identified  during  these  proceedings,  who  were  members  of  the  Com- 
munist conspiracy,  Statewise? 

Miss  Paumi.  No,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Do  you  have  information  respecting  the  activities  and 
techniques  of  the  Communist  Party  underground  in  Connecticut  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Give  us  a  brief  description  of  the  functions  and  activi- 
ties oi  the  underground  operations  of  the  Communist  Party  in 
Connecticut. 

Miss  Paumi.  Well,  I  believe  they  started  in  1950,  around  the  time 
of  the  first  arrest  of  the  10 — 11,  it  was.  When  they  were  first  ar- 
rested, we  started  to  take  security  measures.  We  were  told  not  to 
use  the  phones  for  contact  because  they  were  always  afraid  somebody 
would  tap  the  phones,  and  we  were  contacted.  At  any  closed  meetings, 
we  were  contacted  personally.  We  weren't  using  the  mail  as  much  as 
we  had  used  it  previously.  If  it  was  an  open  meeting,  we  would  send 
fliers  out,  or  letters,  at  that  time,  and  also,  if  it  was  a  closed  meeting, 
they  would  call  us  up  and  say  to  be  at  somebody's  house  at  a  certain 
time.  We  would  be  picked  up  and  then  we  would  go  to  the  meeting, 
wherever  it  was. 

Mr.  Arens.  Do  you  have  any  information  respecting  change  of 
identity,  appearance  of  any  of  the  comrades  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  I  have  known  of  instances  where  some  tried. 

Mr.  Arens.  Could  you  give  us  a  few  illustrations  of  that  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  I  do  know  of  one  instance  where  I  was  asked  to 
change  the  appearance  of  one  of  the  leaders  of  the  Conununist  Party 
in  Connecticut. 

Mr.  Arens.  Did  you  have  any  information  respecting  an  alert  to  the 
comrades  in  the  area  that  the  House  Committee  on  Un-American 
Activities  proposed  to  come  to  this  area  a  few  years  ago? 

Miss  Paumi.  Yes. 

Mr.  Arens.  Tell  us  about  that. 

Miss  Paumi.  We  were  told  at  that  time  that  if  anyone  approached 
us  from  the  House  Un-American  Activities  Committee,  or  any  kind 
of  investigation  committee  that  we  should  contact  our  lawyer,  which 
was  Sam  Gruber  at  that  time. 

Mr.  Arens.  Do  you  know  whether  or  not  Sam  Gruber  was  a  mem- 
ber of  the  Communist  Party  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  Well,  I  have  seen  him  at  one  closed  party  meeting. 

Mr.  Arens.  ¥/as  that  meeting  open  only  to  people  who  were 
Communists? 

Miss  Paumi.  As  far  as  I  know ;  yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Is  there  any  other  information  you  care  to  give  us  with 
respect  to  the  proposed  visit  by  the  House  Committee  on  Un- 
American  Activities? 

Miss  Paumi.  That  is  all,  sir,  I  could  think  of  right  now. 


COMMUNIST  ACTIVITIES  IN  NEW  HAVEN,  CONN.,  AREA       5731 

Mr.  Arens.  What  is  the  ohjective  of  the  Communist  Party  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  Well,  the  objective  of  the  Communist  Party  is  to — 
their  main  concentration  was  in  the  industrial  plants  to  get  as  many 
Communist  Party  members  in  industrial  plants  so  that  we  could  re- 
cruit more  members  into  the  Communist  Party,  and  also  the  Com- 
munist Party  feels  that  socialism  will  be  here  very  soon. 

Mr.  Arens.  By  socialism,  they  mean  communism,  do  they  not? 

Miss  Paumi.  Communism.  We  were  taught  at  a  recent  class,  I 
would  say  in  1953,  that  war  was  inevitable  between  connnunism  and 
capitalism. 

Mr.  Arens.  Plow  serious  is  the  (^ommunist  conspiracy,  particularly 
in  the  Connecticut  area  of  which  you  have  knowledge  ? 

!Miss  Paumi.  To  my  knowledge,  I  would  say  it  is  a  serious  threat 
to  the  industrial  part  of  Connecticut  and  to  the  United  States. 

Mr.  Arens.  ISIiss  Paumi,  you  at  one  time  actually  were  ideologically 
identified  with  the  Communist  Party,  were  you  not  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Could  you  tell  this  committee  in  a  casual  way,  informal 
way,  what  makes  a  Communist  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  Well,  I  would  say  that  if  they  were  the  intellectual  type 
of  person,  I  would  say  that  it  is  a  change  for  them ;  that  they  want  to 
see  a  change,  and  that  is  their  way  out.  Also,  I  would  say  it  is  a 
person  who  has  had  some  disappointment  in  life  or  has  some  sort  of 
complex  or  has  something  in  their  background  that  they  want  to  hide, 
and  where  they  are  not  welcome  in  society. 

Mr.  Arens.  Are  they  dedicated  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  I  would  say  90  percent  are  dedicated,  but  some  are 
not. 

Mr.  Arens.  Is  there  any  doubt  in  their  minds  but  that  they  are 
going  to  overthrow  the  Government  of  the  United  States  and  eventu- 
ally control  the  world  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  I  wouldn't  say  that  there  is  any  doubt  in  their  minds 
about  that.     I  think  they  believe  that. 

Mr.  Arens.  Did  you,  during  the  course  of  your  experience  in  the 
Communist  Party,  know  a  person  by  the  name  of  Elsie  Willcox? 

Miss  Paumi.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Did  you  know  her  as  a  Communist  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  I  couldn't  say  for  sure  whether  she  was  or  not. 

Mr.  Arens.  Did  you  ever  attend  meetings  with  her  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  I  have  attended  many  meetings  with  her,  but  they  were 
the  Connecticut  Peace  Council. 

Mr.  Arens.  Those  were  open  meetings  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Did  you  have  occasion  to  know  a  person  by  the  name 
of  Verne  Weed? 

Miss  Paumi.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Did  you  know  her  as  a  Communist  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Did  you  attend  closed  party  meetings  with  her  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Do  you  here  and  now  identify  her  as  a  person  who,  to 
your  certain  knowledge,  was  a  member  of  the  Comnmnist  conspiracy  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  Yes,  sir. 


5732        COMMUNIST  ACTIVITIES  IN  NEW  HAVEN,  CONN.,  AREA 

Mr.  Arens.  Did  you  know  a  person  by  the  name  of  Bernie  Bui^i'  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Did  you  know  him  as  a  Communist  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Do  you  here  and  now  identify  him  as  a  person  who, 
to  your  certain  knowledge,  was  known  by  you  to  be  a  member  of  the 
Communist  conspiracy  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Do  you  know  Lois  Barnes  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Did  you  know  her  as  a  Communist  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  How  recently  did  you  know  her  as  a  Communist  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  Until  1956. 

Mr.  Arens.  Did  you  serve  in  closed  party  meetings  with  her  ? 

Miss  Paumi,  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Did  you  know  a  person  by  the  name  of  Saul  Kreas  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  I  knew  him.     I  saw  him  at  the  convention  in  1945. 

Mr.  Arens.  Open  convention  meetings  or  closed  convention  meet- 
ings ? 

Miss  Paumi.  It  was  a  Communist  convention,  but  they  were  open  to 
guests. 

Mr.  Arens.  How  recently  was  this  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  This  w^as  in  1945. 

Mr.  Arens.  Do  you  recall  the  approximate  season  of  1945  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  That  was  in  the  summer. 

Mr.  Arens.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  respectfully  suggest  that  w^ould  con- 
clude the  staff  interrogation  of  this  witness. 

Mr.  Willis.  General  Kearney  ? 

Mr.  Kearney.  Just  one  question. 

Is  there  any  doubt  in  your  mind  that  the  Communist  Party  of  our 
country  is  a  part  and  parcel  of  the  International  Communist  con- 
spiracy ? 

Miss  Paumi.  There  is  no  doubt  in  my  mind  about  that. 

Mr.  Arens.  Have  you  information  as  to  any  fronts  which  were 
controlled  by  the  Communist  Party  during  your  experience  in  Con- 
necticut ? 

Miss  Paumi.  Yes,  sir.  They  were  the  Civil  Rights  Congress,  the 
Connecticut  Peace  Council.  Then  at  times,  whenever  the  occasion 
arose,  we  formed  a  different  committee,  like  the  Aid  to  the  Wives 
of  the  Smith  Act  Victims,  then  the  Amnesty  Committee,  and  then  the 
Smith  Act  Committee,  and  also  the  recent  one  was  the  Connecticut 
Volunteers  for  Civil  Eights  and  the  Connecticut  Peace  Council. 

Mr.  Arens.  Thank  you  very  much. 

That  will  conclude  the  staff  interrogation,  Mr.  Chairman. 

Mr.  Willis.  Was  there  a  chapter  here,  or  movement,  an  organiza- 
tion, to  raise  funds  to  secure  justice  for  the  Rosenbergs? 

Miss  Paumi.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Willis.  Will  you  describe  some  of  the  functions  of  that  par- 
ticular group,  because  this  was  the  subject  of  quite  a  searching  investi- 
gation by  this  committee  in  Washington.  We  found  that,  nationwide, 
all  the  huUaballoo  about  the  organization  was  to  secure  a  pardon  for 


COMAIUNIST  ACTIVITIES  IN  NEW  HAVEN,  CONN.,  AREA       5733 

the  Rosenbergs,  wlio,  of  course,  passed  atomic  secrets  to  the  Soviets, 
and  it  developed  that  the  head  people  of  the  organizations  were  strictly 
controlled,  inspired,  and  used  by  the  Comnmnist  conspiracy. 

I  am  -wondering  if  you  could  tell  us  a  few  words  about  the  chapter 
here  in  this  area. 

Miss  Paumi.  Well,  during  the  time  of  the  Rosenberg  trial,  we  were 
asked  to  send  some  money  to  the  fund,  or  whatever  we  could  spare. 
There  were  so  many  funds  going  on  that  sometimes  it  was  difiicult 
to  spread  your  money  to  different  fund  drives  that  were  going  on. 

We  were  also  asked  to  picket  the  White  House. 

Mr.  Willis.  Did  you  go  to  Washington? 

Miss  Paumi.  Yes,  sir ;  I  did. 

Mr.  Willis.  You  may  have  been  one  of  those  I  saw  with  my  own 
eyes,  a  bunch  of  Commies,  picketing  the  President's  residence,  the 
President  of  the  United  States. 

Tell  us,  how  did  you  liappen  to  go? 

Miss  Pau3ii.  We  had  a  drive  on  at  that  time  to  get  all  the  members 
of  the  Communist  l^irty,  and  some  of  the  members  of  the  Connecticut 
Peace  Council  also  weni.  Every  day  we  hud  different  people  ^oing 
from  Cmuiecticut  to  picket,  and  every  day  there  was  a  picket  line 
around  there. 

I  remember  I  went  at  night,  6  o'clock  in  the  morning  on  a  Saturday, 
and  got  there  about  9  o'clock  in  the  morning,  and  we  walked  till  about 
5  or  G  o'clock,  and  then  we  went  home.  But  that  is  the  way  it  worked, 
with  ditTerent  groups  going  every  day. 

Mr.  Willis.  Do  you  recall  any  of  the  people  who  went  with  you  by 
bus  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  I  recall  that  nearly  everyone  in  Connecticut  who  be- 
longed to  the  party  went. 

Mr.  Kearney.  Was  the  witness,  Richter,  who  created  a  demon- 
stration in  the  courtroom  yesterday,  one  of  the  picketers? 

Miss  Paumi.  Well,  I  don't  know  if  he  went,  but  I  do  know  his  wife 
went  down  one  day ;  Charlotte  did. 

^Ir.  Kearney.  In  other  words,  he  let  others  do  the  dirtj  work  for 
him. 

]\Ii.ss  Pauimi.  He  may  have  gone,  but  I  don't  remember  if  he  did. 

yh\  Kearney.  I  did  not  mean  to  interrupt  the  chairman  here,  but 
we  did  have,  as  he  said,  a  very  extensive  investigation.  I  was  quite 
interested  in  the  drive  for  funds  in  the  State  of  Connecticut,  or  the 
reason,  and  I  can  stand  coi-i-ected  on  this. 

I  was  informed,  after  tlie  searching  inquiry,  that  over  $500,000  was 
collected  for  this  campaign,  justice  for  the  Rosenbero-s,  and  out  of  that 
$500,000,  $1,300  was  left  to  the  children.  Where  did  the  rest  of  the 
money  go? 

Miss  Paumi.  AYell,  they  claim  that  they  used  it  for  literature  and  for 
the  lawyer,  for  propaganda. 

Mr.  Willis.  And,  actually,  part  of  the  propaganda  was  to  raise 
funds  for  the  education  of  those  children  whom  they  paraded  before 
TV  in  Washington  and  elsewhere  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  That  is  correct. 

Mr.  Willis.  Do  you  remember  who  had  charge  or  made  a  bus  tour 
from  here  ? 


5734       COMMUNIST  ACTIVITIES  IN  NEW  HAVEN,  CONN.,  AREA 

Miss  Paumi.  I  don't  know  who  had  cliar^^e  of  the  bus,  but  I  do  know 
that  it  seemed  like  everybody  liad  charge  of  everything.  I  know  when 
I  was  approached  to  go  for  picketing,  I  was  contacted  by  2  or  3  differ- 
ent people  at  that  time.  I  know  that  I  went  down  with  the  Weinbergs. 
I  was  at  the  Weinbergs'  home  that  night  and  I  saw 

Mr.  Willis.  Do  you  recall  any  ladies  beside  yourself? 

Miss  Paumi.  Who  went  that  particular  day  ? 

Mr.  Willis.  Yes ;  the  leader  of  the  group. 

Miss  Paumi.  Let's  see.  The  day  that  I  went,  I  went  down  with 
Sam  Tomach,  and  Joe  Barnes,  and  a  fellow  by  the  name  of  Callanan, 
and  Ida  Sito,  but  she  is  not  a  member  of  the  party. 

Mr.  Willis.  Do  you  know  others  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  I  know  Elsie  Willcox. 

Mr.  Willis.  What  connection  did  she  have  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  She  was  sympathetic  to  the  Rosenbergs. 

Mr.  Willis.  But  she  was  on  the  trip  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  She  was  on  1  or  2  trips,  that  I  know.  She  had  told  me 
that. 

Mr.  Willis.  Was  there  anyone  on  that  bus  who  was  not  sympathetic 
to  the  Rosenbergs  or  to  the  cause  of  communism. 

Miss  Paumi.  I  wasn't  on  the  bus,  sir,  but  the  car  that  I  was  in,  we 
were  all  sympathetic  at  that  time. 

Mr.  Willis.  The  purpose  of  the  trip,  and  this  was  only  par.t  of  a 
nationwide  trek,  was  to  pressure  the  United  States  to  pardon  the 
Rosenbergs. 

Miss  Paumi.  That  is  right,  sir. 

Mr.  Willis.  As  a  matter  of  fact,  the  people  pressured  two  Presi- 
dents, first  President  Truman  and  then  President  Eisenhower ;  is  that 
not  correct  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  That  is  right,  sir. 

Mr.  Kearney.  And  Members  of  Congress  ? 

Miss  Paiimi.  That  is  right,  sir. 

Mr.  Kearney.  During  the  period  that  these  committees  were  work- 
ing in  behalf  of  justice  for  the  Rosenbergs,  there  were  special  trains 
coming  into  Washington,  caravans  of  buses,  and  automobiles.  Who 
paid  for  all  this ;  do  you  know  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  AVhy,  I  imagine  all  the  front  groups  for  the  Com- 
munist Party. 

Mr.  Kearney.  Did  they  pay  their  own  individual  fares? 

Miss  Paumi.  I  did.  Some  of  the  others,  their  expenses  were  paid, 
but  I  don't  know  who  paid  for  them  individually.  Some  paid  and 
some  didn't. 

Mr.  Kearney.  Those  who  did  not,  who  paid  their  way  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  Well,  that  I  can't  say  for  certain. 

Mr.  Kearney.  The  Communist  Party? 

Miss  Paumi.  I  imagine  so. 

Mr.  Willis.  Part  of  the  hue  and  cry  during  that  time,  through  leaf- 
lets and  agitation  and  handbills,  was  that  the  Rosenbergs  had  not  been 
granted  justice  and  somehow  they  are  two  of  the  few  people  who  were 
lucky  enough  to  be  able  to  have  their  case  come  before  the  Supreme 
Court  seven  times,  and  still  they  said  they  were  being  railroaded. 

That  was  part  of  the  propaganda,  was  it  not  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  That  is  right,  sir. 


COTMMUNIST  ACTIVITIES  IX  NEW  HAVEN,  CONN.,  AREA       5735 

]Mi'.  WiLi.is.  Is  that  tlic  nature  of  the  v>ork  done  by  the  so-called 
front  group  ^ 

Miss  Paumi,  Yes. 

Mr.  Willis.  In  other  words,  the  Rosenbergs  were  just  typical  of  the 
current  issues  that  they  pick  up  and  agitate  about  ^ 

Miss  Paumi.  That  is  right,  sir. 

Mr.  Willis.  Is  that  what  you  meant  a  while  ago  about  these  front 
groups  which  Avere  created  and  put  in  front  of  the  hard  core  leaders  in 
the  Communist  conspiracy? 

Miss  Paumi.  That  is  right,  sir. 

Mr,  Willis.  That  is  the  typical  work  of  so-called  front  organi- 
zations? 

Miss  Pau3ii.  That  is  right,  sir. 

]Mr.  Willis.  Now,  you  worked  for  the  Government  of  the  United 
States  for  a  total  of  approximately  how  many  years? 

Miss  Paumi.  Since  1943. 

]Mr.  Willis.  And  you  disassociated  yourself  from  that  work  this 
year? 

Miss  Paumi.  That  is  right,  sir. 

Mr.  Willis.  Why? 

Miss  Paumi.  Because  I  testified  and  it  became  obvious. 

^Ir.  Willis.  In  other  words,  you  finally  came  out  in  the  open  as  an 
employee  of  your  Government? 

Miss  Paumi.  That  is  right,  sir. 

Mr.  Willis.  In  fact,  that  is  all  you  were;  is  that  not  true? 

Miss  Paumi.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Willis.  You  were  in  constant  commmiication  with  the  Fed- 
eral Bureau  of  Investigation,  were  you  not? 

Miss  Paumi.  I  was. 

Mr.  Willis.  And  made  periodic  reports. 

Miss  PxVU3ii.  That  is  right. 

Mr.  Willis.  I  suppose  you  realize,  having  been  associated  with  the 
FBI,  that  you  had  been  thoroughly  investigated,  too  ?  Did  you  know 
tliat  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  I  imagined  I  was. 

Mr.  Willis.  You  imagine  that,  do  you  not? 

Miss  Paumi.  Yes. 

^Ir.  Willis.  Now,  it  has  not  been  the  habit  of  the  Federal  Bureau 
of  Investigation  to  put  an  ad  in  the  paper  or  to  send  out  telegrams 
that  it  is  investigating  communism  or  any  other  type  of  work  in  which 
it  is  engaged.     It  is  not  the  habit  of  the  Bureau  to  advertise  that,  is  it  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  No,  sir. 

Mr.  Willis.  So  when  witnesses  refer  to  you  sometimes  as  an  in- 
formant, that  burns  us  up  on  this  committee  to  hear  you  described 
simply  as  an  informant  without  explaining  the  nature  of  the  informa- 
tion you  are  supplying.  You  are  doing  it  at  the  suggestion  of  the 
FBI ;  is  that  not  correct  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  That  is  right. 

Mr.  Willis.  This  committee  recognizes  the  high  caliber  and  ef- 
ficiency of  the  FBI.  Some  of  the  investigators  on  this  committee 
are  former  s})ecial  agents  of  that  fine  organization.  One  of  them  here, 
Mr.  Ray  Collins,  is  a  former  special  agent  of  the  FBI  as  well  as  hav- 


5736       COMMUNIST  ACTIVITIES  IN  NEW  HAVEN,  CONN.,  AREA 

ing  had  a  brilliant  war  record  as  a  fighter  pilot.  He  sort  of  smiles 
when  you  people  engaged  in  obtaining  information  for  yonr  Govern- 
ment are  referred  to  as  informers.  In  my  book  you  are  all  right,  and  I 
speak  for  the  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities.  We  liave  been 
created  by  Congress;  we  come  up  for  review  by  the  Congress  every 
year.  We  make  our  report  each  year.  Congress  has  nearly  always 
voted  unanimously  to  provide  the  funds  for  our  work. 

We  get  used  to  jeers  and  sneers  and  insinuations  and  intemperate 
scenes,  as  we  saw  here  day  before  yesterday,  but  we  do  not  ever  per- 
mit ourselves  to  be  goaded  into  not  continuing  with  our  work. 

I  want  to  compliment  you  for  the  contribution  you  have  made  on 
behalf  of  our  committee  and  others  in  making  that  work  lighter  and 
more  pleasant. 

Mr.  Kearney.  I  do  not  think  I  have  anything  to  add  to  that  state- 
ment. I  think  that  statement  is  powerful  enough.  These  individuals 
talk  about  your  being  an  informer,  but  in  my  humble  opinion  you  have 
just  done  your  patriotic  American  duty.  You  have  more  thoughts  for 
your  country  than  these  individuals  who  come  here  and  to  other 
cities  and  take  the  fifth  amendment.  These  are  the  people  I  call  the 
fifth- amendment  Americans.  I  have  only  the  utmost  contempt  for 
them.  If  they  have  nothing  to  fear,  they  could  testify,  testify  truth- 
fully. They  have  the  privilege,  of  course,  and  no  one  denies  it  to  them. 
But  you  notice  the  form  of  their  answers,  time  and  time  again,  not  only 
in  the  cities  of  New  Haven,  Washington,  New  York,  but  throughout  the 
Nation.     So  do  not  be  concerned  about  people  saying  those  things. 

Mr.  Willis.  Along  that  line,  on  the  question  of  loss  of  employment, 
we  read  that  people  lose  their  jobs  because  they  invoked  the  fifth 
amendment. 

That  is  not  an  accurate  statement.  If  anyone  here  loses  his  job 
as  a  result  of  his  appearance  before  our  committee,  is  it  not  more  ac- 
curate to  describe  the  situation,  perhaps,  that  the  employers  so  con- 
cluded because  they  were  openly  identified  by  live,  true  witnesses  under 
oath  as  being,  or  liaving  been,  members  of  the  Communist  conspiracy, 
in  addition  to  their  invocation  of  the  fifth  amendment? 

Thank  you  very  much. 

We  are  pressed  for  time  and  I  think  we  will  have  to  call  another 
witness  before  lunch,  if  you  do  not  mind.     We  must  conclude  today. 

Mr.  Arens.  Mr.  Joseph  Barnes  please  come  forward. 

Kindly  remain  standing  while  the  chairman  administers  an  oatli 
to  you. 

Mr.  Willis.  Raise  your  right  hand,  please. 

Do  you  solemnly  swear  that  the  testimony  you  are  about  to  give  will 
be  the  truth,  the  whole  truth  and  nothing  but  the  truth,  so  help  you 
God? 

Mr.  Barnes.  I  do. 

TESTIMONY  OF  JOSEPH  BARNES,  ACCOMPANIED  BY  COUNSEL, 
RALPH  LOCKWOOD 

Mr.  Arens.  Please  identify  yourself,  sir,  by  name,  residence,  and 
occupation. 


COMMUNIST  ACTIVITIES  IN  NEW  HAVEN,  CONN.,  AREA       5737 

^Ir.  B.vRNES.  My  name  is  Joseph  Barnes,  and  I  live  at  606  Trumbull 
Avenue,  Bridgeport. 

Mr.  Arexs.  Occupation? 

jNIr.  Barnes.  I  am  a  set-up  man. 

Mr.  Arens.  Where  are  you  employed  ? 

JNIr.  Barnes.  Siniier  Manufacturing  Co.,  Bridgeport. 

^Ir.  Arens.  Are  you  api)earing  today  in  response  to  a  subpena  v»  hich 
was  served  upon  you  by  the  House  Committee  on  Un-American 
Activities? 

Mr.  Barnes.  That  is  right. 

Mr.  Arens.  You  are  re]:)resented  by  counsel  ? 

]Mr.  Barnes.  That  is  right. 

Mr.  Arens.  Will  counsel  identify  himself,  please  ? 

Mr.  LocKwooD.  Ealph  Lockwood,  1188  Main  Street,  Bridgeport, 
Conn. 

Mr.  Arens.  How  long  have  you  been  employed  at  the  Singer  Manu- 
facturing Co.  ? 

(The  witness  conferred  with  his  counsel.) 

Mr.  Barnes.  Six  months. 

Mr.  Arens.  What  was  your  employment  immediately  prior  to  the 
period  of  your  present  service? 

Mr.  Barnes.  May  I  consult  with  counsel  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  Yes,  sir, 

(The  witness  conferred  with  his  counsel.) 

Mr.  Barnes.  I  respectfully  invoke  my  rights  under  the  fifth  amend- 
ment and  decline  to  answer  that  question. 

Mr.  Arens.  How  long  was  A^our  employment  which  immediately 
preceded  your  present  employment  at  Singer  ? 

Mr,  Barnes.  May  I  consult? 

Mr.  Arens.  Yes,  sir ;  at  any  time. 

(The  witness  conferred  with  his  counsel.) 

Mr.  Barnes.  Same  answer. 

Mr.  Arens.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  respectfully  suggest  that  the  witness 
be  directed  and  ordered  to  answer  that  last  principal  question. 

Mr.  Willis.  Yes.     You  are  directed  to  answer  that  question. 

(The  witness  conferred  with  his  counsel.) 

Mr.  Barnes.  I  would  like  to  decline  to  answer  the  question,  but  I 
think  that  even  to  state  my  reasons  for  declining  to  answer  the  question 
may  lead  to  further  questions  which  might  tend  to  incriminate  me,  I 
must  invoke  the  fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Arens,  W^hat  was  your  employment  immediately  prior  to  the 
employment  concerning  which  you  cannot  tell  us  without  giving  in- 
formation which  could  be  used  against  you  in  a  criminal  proceeding? 

Mr,  Barnes,  May  I  consult? 

(The  witness  conferred  with  his  counsel.) 

Mr,  Barnes,  Same  answer;  fifth  amendment. 

Mr,  Arens.  Wliere  were  you  born  ? 

Mr,  Barnes,  Springfield,  Mass. 

Mr.  Arens.  When? 

Mr.  Barnes.  February  9,  1920, 


5738       COMMUNIST  ACTIVITIES  IN  NEW  HAVEN,  CONN.,  AREA 

Mr.  Arens.  Give  us  a  word,  please,  about  your  education. 

Mr.  Barnes.  I  attended  public  schools  in  Springfield — grammar 
school,  junior  high  school.  I  attended  high  school  for  2  years  and 
then  left  to  go  to  work. 

Mr.  Arens.  When  did  vou  leave  high  school  ? 

Mr.  Barnes.  In  1936.  " 

Mr.  Arens.  What  high  school  did  you  you  attend  ? 

Mr.  Barnes.  Technical  High  School. 

Mr.  Arens.  What  city  ? 

Mr.  Barnes.  Springfield. 

Mr.  Arens.  What  was  your  first  employment  after  you  left  school  ? 

(The  witness  conferred  with  his  counsel.) 

Mr.  Barnes.  I  very  respectfully  invoke  the  protection  of  the  fifth 
amendment  and  decline  to  answer. 

Mr.  Arens.  Was  there  any  employment  from  1036  until  the  present 
time  that  you  can  tell  us  about  w^ithout  supplying  information  which 
could  be  used  against  you  in  a  criminal  proceeding  ? 

(The  witness  conferred  with  his  counsel.) 

Mr.  Barnes.  No,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Is  it  a  fact  that  all  of  your  employment  since  1936  is  of 
such  a  nature  that  if  you  told  this  committee  about  it  you  would  be 
supplying  information  which  could  be  used  against  you  in  a  criminal 
proceeding  ? 

(The  witness  conferred  with  his  comisel.) 

Mr.  Barnes.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Were  you  ever  employed  at  the  Alfred  Heckman  Dis- 
tributors ? 

(The  witness  conferred  with  his  counsel.) 

Mr.  Barnes.  I  am  respectfully  invoking  my  protection  under  the 
fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Arens.  Were  you  ever  employed  in  an  establishment  located 
at  24-6  Old  Post  Road,  Fairfield,  Conn.  ? 

Mr.  Barnes.  Same  answer. 

Mr.  Arens.  Have  you  ever  been  identified  with  the  Connecticut 
Volunteers  for  Civil  Kights  ? 

(The  witness  conferred  ^vith  his  counsel.) 

Mr.  Barnes.  I  respectfully  invoke  my  privileges  under  the  first 
amendment  and  the  fifth  amendment  and  decline  to  answer. 

Mr.  Arens.  I  put  it  to  you  as  a  fact  and  ask  you  to  affirm  or  deny 
the  fact  that  at  one  time  you  were  the  principal  moving  official  of  the 
Connecticut  Volunteers  for  Civil  Rights. 

Mr.  Barnes.  I  respectfully  invoke  my  privileges  mider  the  fifth 
amendment  and  decline  to  answer. 

Mr.  x\rens.  Have  you  been  engaged  in  the  dissemination  in  Con- 
necticut of  literature  of  some  kind,  character  or  description  ? 

(The  witness  conferred  with  his  counsel.) 

Mr.  Barnes.  I  invoke  the  first  and  fifth  amendments  and  decline 
to  answer. 

Mr.  Arens.  During  1953, 1  put  it  to  you  as  a  fact  that  you  were  the 
literature  director  for  the  Communist  Party  for  Connecticut.  If  it  is 
not  so,  deny  it  while  you  are  under  oath. 

Mr.  Barnes.  I  decline  to  answer  under  the  first  and  fifth  amend- 
ments. 


COMMUNIST  ACTIVITIES  IN  NEW  HLWEN,  CONN.,  AREA       5739 

Mr,  xVrens.  Do  you  know  a  person  by  the  name  of  Harold  Kent  ? 

JNIr,  Barnes.  I  decline  to  answer  under  the  first  and  fifth  amend- 
ments. 

Mr.  Arens.  Do  you  know  a  person  by  the  name  of  Rowena  Paumi  ? 

Mr.  Barnes.  Same  answer. 

Mr.  Arens.  Mr.  Kent  and  Miss  Paumi,  would  you  kindly  stand  up  ? 

Would  you  please,  Mr.  Barnes,  look  over  your  right  shoulder  at 
those  two  people  and  tell  us  whether  or  not  you  have  ever  seen  them 
before  ? 

Mr.  Barnes.  I  decline  to  answer  under  the  fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Arens.  Mr.  Barnes,  Harold  Kent  and  Eowena  Paumi  testified 
under  oath  before  this  connnittee  that  they  knew  you  as  a  member 
of  the  (.'ommunist  Party.  Were  they  lying  or  Avere  they  telling  the 
truth? 

Mr.  Barnios.  I  decline  to  answer  imder  the  fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Arens.  For  the  purposes  of  identification,  are  you  the  husband 
of  Lois  Barnes? 

(The  witness  conferred  with  his  counsel.) 

Mr.  Barnes.  Yes. 

Mr.  Arens.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  respectfully  suggest  that  would  con- 
clude the  staff  interrogation  of  this  witness. 

Mr.  Willis.  The  witness  will  be  excused. 

Mr.  Arens.  Mrs.  Lois  Barnes,  please  come  forward  ? 

Kindly  remain  standing  while  the  chairman  administers  an  oath  to 
you. 

Mr.  Willis.  Will  you  please  raise  your  right  hand  ? 

Do  3'ou  solemnly  swear  that  the  testimony  you  are  about  to  give  will 
be  the  truth,  the  whole  truth  and  nothing  but  the  truth,  so  help  you 
God? 

Mi-s.  Barnes.  I  do. 

TESTIMONY  OF  LOIS  BARNES,  ACCOMPANIED  BY  COUNSEL 
RALPH  LOCKWOOD 

Mr.  Arens.  Please  be  seated  and  kindly  identify  yourself  by  name, 
residence,  and  occupation. 

Mrs.  Barnes.  Lois  Barnes,  606  Trumbull  Avenue,  housewife. 

Mr.  Arens.  Are  you  the  wife  of  Joseph  Barnes,  who  just  vacated 
the  witness  chair  ? 

Mrs.  Barnes.  I  decline  to  answer  under  the  privileges  guaranteed 
me  under  tlie  fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Arens.  Do  you  honestly  apprehend  that  if  you  told  this  com- 
mittee whether  or  not  you  are  the  wife  of  Joseph  Barnes  that  you 
would  be  supplying  information  which  could  be  used  against  you  in 
a  criminal  proceeding  ? 

Mrs.  Barnes.  I  think  I  might.     I  don't  know,  but  I  think  I  might. 

Mr.  Arens.  You  are  appearing  today  in  response  to  a  subpena 
which  was  served  upon  you  by  the  House  Committee  on  Un-American 
Activities  ? 

Mrs.  Barnes.  That  is  right. 

Mr.  Arens.  Are  you  represented  by  counsel  ? 

Mrs.  Barnes.  Yes. 

Mr.  Arens.  Will  counsel  kindly  identify  himself  ? 


5740       COMMUNIST  ACTIVITIES  IN  NEW  HAVEN,  CONN.,  AREA 

Mr.  LocKwooD.  Ralph  Lockwood,  1188  Main  Street,  Bridgeport, 
Conn. 

Mr.  Arens.  Where  are  you  employed,  Mrs.  Barnes  ? 

Mrs.  Barnes.  I  decline  to  answer  on  the  grounds  previously  stated. 

Mr,  Arens.  What  is  the  nature  of  your  employment  ? 

Mrs.  Barnes.  I  decline  to  answer  that. 

Mr.  Arens.  How  long  have  you  been  in  your  present  employment? 

Mrs.  Barnes.  Same  answer  as  before. 

Mr.  Arens.  ^Vliat  was  your  employment  innnediately  pieceding 
your  present  employment  ? 

Mrs.  Barnes.  Same  answer  as  before. 

Mr.  Arens.  Where  were  you  born  'i 

Mrs.  Barnes.  I  was  born  in  Ware,  Mass. 

Mr.  Arens.  Give  us  a  word,  please,  about  your  education. 

Mrs.  Barnes.  I  decline  to  answer  that. 

Mr.  Arens.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  respectfully  suggest  the  witness  be 
ordered  and  directed  to  answer  that  question. 

Mr.  Willis.  You  are  directed  to  answer  that  question.  We  aru 
simply  seeking  information  to  which  we  are  entitled. 

(The  witness  conferred  with  her  counsel.) 

Mrs.  Barnes.  I  went  to  grammar  schools  in  Prescott  and  Green- 
wich. 

Mr.  Arens.  Are  you  used  to  speaking  in  public? 

Mrs.  Barnes.  Well,  do  you  want  me  to  answer  the  question  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  Yes,  please;  answer  this  question. 

Are  you  used  to  speaking  in  public  ? 

Mrs.  Barnes.  Do  you  withdraw 

Mr.  Arens.  I  do  not  comprehend  why  you  are  so  reluctant  to  raise 
your  voice.  You  have  been  a  public  speaker  in  the  past,  have  you 
not? 

Mrs.  Barnes.  May  I  answer  the  first  question  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  Answer  the  second  one  now.  We  will  withdraw  the 
first  one  for  the  moment. 

(The  witness  conferred  with  her  counsel.) 

Mrs.  Barnes.  I  decline  to  answer  that  under  the  fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Arens.  You  have  been  quite  a  proponent  of  peace,  have  you 
not,  a  very  laudable  objective  ? 

Mrs.  Barnes.  I  decline  to  answer  that  under  the  first  and  fifth 
amendment. 

Mr.  Arens.  You  were  chairman  of  the  Bridgeport  Women  for 
Peace  ? 

Mrs.  Barnes.  I  decline  to  answer  that  on  the  basis  of  the  first  and 
fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Arens.  I  put  it  to  you  as  a  fact,  and  ask  you  to  affirm  or  deny 
it  is  a  fact,  that  you  were  chairman  of  the  Bridgeport  Women  for 
Peace. 

Mrs.  Barnes.  I  decline  to  answer  that  on  the  basis  of  the  first  and 
fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Arens.  You  are  not  ashamed  of  being  a  proponent  of,  or  a  par- 
tisan for,  peace,  are  you  ? 


COMMUNIST  ACTIVITIES  IN  NEW  HAVEN,  CONN.,  AREA       5741 

(The  Avitness  conferred  with  her  counsel.) 

Mrs.  Baknes.  I  decline  to  answer  that  on  the  same  grounds. 

Mr.  Arexs.  I  should  like  to  lay  before  you  now  a  photostatic  copy 
of  an  article  appearing  in  the  Communist  Daily  Worker  of  May  15, 
1952,  "Bridgeport,  Conn. — 400  Jam  PP  Election  Rally  for  Peace 
at  Bridgeport.''  which,  among  other  speakers,  has  listed  a  Mrs.  Lois 
Barnes,  cliairman  of  the  Bridgeport  Women  for  Peace. 

1  should  like  to  ask  you  to  glance  at  that  article  and  tell  us  whether 
or  not  that  might  refresh  your  recollection  as  to  any  of  j'our  speak- 
ing activities  and  public  appearances  ? 

(The  Avitness  conferred  with  her  counsel.) 

]\Irs.  Barnes.  I  decline  to  ansAver  on  the  basis  of  the  first  amend- 
ment and  the  fifth  amendment. 

]Mr,  Arexs.  IVIr.  Chairman,  I  respectfully  suggest  that  this  docu- 
ment be  marked  '"Lois  Barnes  Exhibit  No.  1"  and  incorporated  by 
lef  erence  in  the  record. 

Mr.  Willis.  It  will  be  so  incorporated. 

(The  document  referred  to,  marked  ''Lois  Barnes  Exhibit  No.  1," 
Avas  incor}Jorated  by  reference  in  the  record.) 

]SIr.  Arexs.  You  have  also  been  an  author  in  your  time,  have  you 
not  ? 

Mrs,  Barnes.  I  decline  to  answer  on  the  basis  of  the  first  and  fifth 
amendment. 

Mr.  Arexs.  I  lay  before  you  now  a  photostatic  copy  of  an  article 
appearing  in  the  Communist  Daily  Worker,  Monday,  December  19, 
1955,  Avith  reference  to  certain  publications 

Mr.  Willis.  Do  you  mean  the  date  of  issue  is  1955  ? 

]Mr.  Arexs.  December  19,  1955,  with  reference  to  certain  publica- 
tions AA'hich  are  available  at  a  Workers'  Bookshop,  including  publica- 
tions by  a  Lois  Barnes,  and  ask  you  if  you  are  the  person  alluded  to 
in  that  article. 

( The  witness  conferred  wdth  her  counsel. ) 

Mrs.  Barxes.  I  don't  recall  ever  being  that  Lois  Barnes,  I  am  sorry. 

]Mr.  Arexs.  Have  you  been  a  coauthor  of  any  works  with  Ernest 
Hemingway? 

]Mrs.  Barxes.  Not  to  my  knowledge. 

Mr.  Arexs.  Do  you  know  a  person  by  the  name  of  Harold  Kent  ? 

Mrs.  Barx-^es.  I  decline  to  answer  that  on  the  basis  of  the  fifth 
amendment? 

Mr.  xVrexs.  Do  you  know  a  person  by  the  name  of  Eowena  Paumi  ? 

]\Irs.  Barxes.  I  also  decline  to  answer  that  on  the  same  basis. 

Mr.  Arexs.  Mr.  Kent  and  Miss  Paumi,  would  you  kindly  stand  up  ? 

Would  you  kindly  look  over  your  right  shoulder  and  tell  this  com- 
mittee whether  you  have  ever  seen  them  before  ? 

Mrs.  Barnes.  I  decline  to  answer  that  on  the  fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Arexs.  Mr.  Kent  and  Miss  Paumi  testified  under  oath  before 
this  committee  that  they  knew  you  as  a  member  of  the  Communist 
conspiracy.    Were  they  lying  or  were  they  telling  the  truth  ? 

Mrs.  Barnes.  I  decline  to  answer  that  on  the  basis  of  the  fifth 
amendment. 


5742       COMMUNIST  ACTIVITIES  IN  NEW  HAVEN,  CONN.,  AREA 

Mr.  Arens.  Miss  Paumi  stated  that  you  were  a  member  of  the  city 
committee  of  the  Communist  Party  in  Bridgeport  from  1952  until 
1956.     Was  she  lying  or  was  she  telling  the  truth  ? 

(The  witness  conferred  with  her  counsel.) 

Mrs.  Barnes.  I  decline  to  answer  on  the  basis  of  the  first  and  fifth 
amendments. 

Mr.  Arens.  Have  you  had  any  employment  since  1936  concerning 
which  you  can  tell  us  without  giving  information  which  could  be  used 
against  you  in  a  criminal  proceeding? 

Mrs.  Barnes.  This  is  an  area  which  I  don't  wish  to  go  into,  and 
therefore  I  wish  to  say  "No." 

Mr.  Arens.  Let  us  get  this  record  clear. 

You  wish  to  state,  do  you,  that  there  is  no  activity,  no  employment, 
in  which  you  have  been  engaged  since  1936  concerning  which  you  can 
tell  us  without  giving  us  information  which  could  be  used  against  you 
in  a  criminal  proceeding? 

(The  witness  conferred  with  her  counsel.) 

Mrs.  Barnes.  Well,  this  appears  to  be  a  fairly  innocent  question, 
but  I  don't  want  to  be  led  into  an  area  which  I  don't  wish  to  discuss 
because  it  might  be  something  that  I  don't  want  to 

Mr.  Arens.  Why  would  you  not  want  to  discuss  it  ? 

Mrs.  Barnes.  If  it  might  be  used  against  me  in  a  criminal  prosecu- 
tion, of  course. 

Mr.  Arens.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  would  respectfully  suggest  that  would 
conclude  the  staff  interrogation  of  this  witness. 

Mr.  Willis.  The  committee  will  stand  in  recess  until  1 :  30. 

(Whereupon,  at  12 :  20  p.  m.,  September  26,  1956,  tlie  subcommittee- 
recessed,  to  reconvene  at  1 :  30  p.  m.  of  the  same  day.) 

AFTERNOON  SESSION,  WEDNESDAY,  SEPTEMBER  26,  1956 

Mr.  Willis.  The  subcommittee  will  come  to  order. 

Counsel  will  call  the  next  witness. 

Mr.  Arens.  Mr.  Sam  Davis,  please  come  forward. 

Remain  standing  while  the  chairman  administers  an  oath  to  you. 

Mr.  Willis.  Kindly  raise  your  right  hand,  please. 

Do  you  solemnly  swear  that  the  testimony  you  are  about  to  give 
will  be  the  truth,  the  whole  truth,  and  nothing  but  the  truth,  so  help 
you  God  ? 

Mr.  Davis.  I  do. 

TESTIMONY  OF  SAMUEL  DAVIS,  ACCOMPANIED  BY  COUNSEL, 
CHARLES  HENCHEL 

Mr.  Arens.  Please  identify  yourself  by  name,  residence,  and  occu- 
pation. 

Mr.  Davis.  Samuel  Davis,  24  Beverly  Road;  occupation,  dental 
technician. 

Mr.  Arens.  You  are  appearing  today,  Mr.  Davis,  in  response  to  a 
subpena  served  upon  you  by  the  House  Committee  on  Un-American 
Activities  ? 

Mr.  Davis.  That  is  right. 

Mr.  Arens.  Are  you  represented  by  counsel  ? 


COMMUNIST  ACTIVITIES  IN  NEW  HAVEN,  CONN.,  AREA       5743 

Mr.  Davis.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Will  counsel  kindly  identify  himself  ? 

Mr.  Henchel.  Charles  Henchel,  H-e-n-c-h-e-1,  152  Temple  Street, 
New  Haven. 

Mr.  Arens.  AVhere  are  you  employed,  Mr.  Davis  ? 

Mr.  Davis.  Self-employed. 

Mr.  Arens.  Where  ^ 

Mr.  DA^^s.  Davis  Dental  Lab. 

Mr.  Arens.  Are  you  the  sole  proprietor  of  the  establishment  ? 

Mr.  Davis.  That  is  right. 

Mr.  Arens.  How  long  have  you  been  so  employed  ? 

Mr.  Davis.  Since  1939. 

JVIr.  Arens.  And  what  was  your  employment  prior  to  1939  ? 

Mr.  Davis.  As  a  dental  technician. 

Mr.  Arens.  Where? 

Mr.  DA^^s.  Well,  I  worked  for  close  to  12  years  at  the  New  Haven 
Dental.  Prior  to  that,  I  worked  for  5  years  at  another  laboratory, 
United  Dental ;  is  that  right  ?    It  is  so  long  back  I  can't  remember. 

Mr.  Arens.  Where  w^ere  you  born  ? 

Mr.  Davis.  Riga,  Latvia. 

Mr. Arens.  When? 

Mr.DA\^s.  April  26, 1904. 

Mr.  Arens.  Wlien  did  you  come  to  the  United  States  ? 

Mr.  Davis.  July  1921. 

Mr.  Arens.  Were  you  admitted  for  permanent  residence  ? 

Mr.  Davis.  That  is  right. 

Mr.  Arens.  Are  you  a  citizen  of  the  United  States  ? 

Mr.  Da-s^s.  That  is  right. 

Mr.  Arens.  By  derivation  or  by  naturalization  ? 

Mr.  Davis.  Naturalization. 

Mr.  Arens.  When  were  you  naturalized  ? 

Mr.DA^^s.  In  1930. 

Mr. Arens.  Where? 

Mr.  Davis.  In  New  Haven. 

Mr.  Arens.  At  the  time  you  were  naturalized,  did  you  take  an  oath 
of  allegiance  to  the  Constitution  of  the  United  States  ? 

Mr.  Davis.  I  did. 

Mr.  Arens.  Did  you  have  any  mental  reservations  at  the  time  you 
took  that  oath  of  allegiance  ? 

Mr.  Davis.  No,  I  didn't  have  any  reservations  whatsoever. 

Mr.  Arens.  At  the  time  you  took  the  oath  of  allegiance,  were  you  a 
member  of  the  Communist  Party  ? 

Mr.  Davis.  I  will  have  to  invoke  my  rights  mider  the  Constitution 
of  the  United  States  under  the  fifth  amendment. 

?vrr.  Kearney.  We  cannot  hear  the  witness. 

Mr.  Davis.  I  will  have  to  invoke  my  constitutional  right  under 
the  fifth  amendment  on  this  question. 

Mr.  Arens.  Now  tell  us  a  word  about  your  education.  Were  you 
educated  in  the  old  country  ? 

Mr.  Davis.  Yes. 

Mr.  Arens.  Hovv^  old  were  you  when  you  arrived  here  ? 

Mr.  Davis,  I  had  very  little  formal  education,  what  you  may  call 
it.     I  had  the  equivalent  of  a  Hebi-ew  high-school  education. 

Mr.  Arens.  How  old  were  you  when  you  arrived  ? 


5744       COMMUNIST  ACTIVITIES  IN  NEW  HAVEN,  CONN.,  AREA 

Mr.  Davis.  Seventeen ;  1904  to  1921. 

Mr.  Arens.  Give  us,  if  you  please,  sir,  just  a  thumbnail  sketch  of 
your  principal  employments  since  you  have  been  a  permanent  resident 
of  the  United  States. 

Mr.  Davis.  Only  at  my  profession.  I  worked  for  1  week  at  a  gas 
station  when  I  came  here,  and  I  couldn't  get  a  job  at  my  own  work  so 
I  had  to  work  at  a  gas  station  for  about  1  week.  The  rest  I  worked 
at  my  trade. 

Mr.  Arens.  How  long  have  you  lived  in  New  Haven,  Conn.  ? 

Mr.  Davis.  Since  I  came  here. 

Mr.  Arens.  Where  did  you  reside  immediately  prior  to  coming  to 
New  Haven,  Conn.  ? 

Mr.  Davis.  Riga,  Latvia. 

Mr.  Arens.  You  came  directly  to  New  Haven  ? 

Mr.  Daves.  That  is  right. 

Mr.  Arens.  Did  you  have  a  relative  here  at  the  time  you  came 
to  the  United  States  ? 

Mr.  Daais.  That  is  right. 

Mr.  Arens.  "\Vho  was  that  ? 

Mr.  Davis.  My  sister. 

Mr.  Arens.  Have  you  ever  belonged  to  a  labor  organization  ? 

Mr.  Davis.  I  don't  understand  the  question. 

Mr.  Arens.  Have  you  ever  been  a  member  of  a  labor  organization? 

Mr.  Davis.  A  union,  you  mean  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Davis.  Well,  I  wouldn't  call  it  exactly  a  labor  organization 
because  the  dental  technicians  for  a  short  period  of  time  belonged  to 
the  jewelers  union  just  for  a  very  short  time,  6  months  or  so,  and  then, 
belonging  to  the  dental  association.  Dental  Laboratory  Association, 
I  was  affiliated  with  that  organization,  but  otherwise  I  was  not. 

Mr.  Arens.  Have  you  ever  been  associated  with  an  organization 
in  the  State  of  Minnesota  ? 

Mr.  Davis.  I  was  never  there. 

Mr.  Arens.  Of  what  organizations  are  you  presently  a  member? 

(The  witness  confers  with  his  counsel.) 

Mr.  Davis.  On  this  question  I  would  invoke  my  right  under  the  fifth 
amendment. 

Mr.  Arens.  Do  you  belong  to  any  organizations  which  are  of  the 
nonsensitive  variety,  namely,  those  you  can  tell  us  about  without 
giving  information  which  could  be  used  against  you  in  a  criminal 
proceeding? 

(The  witness  conferred  with  his  counsel.) 

Mr.  Davis.  I  would  refuse  to  answer  that  on  my  constitutional  right, 
fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Arens.  Do  you  know  a  person  by  the  name  of  W.  C.  Mosher  ? 

Mr.  Davis.  I  will  refuse  to  answer  that  on  my  constitutional  right 
of  the  fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Arens.  Mr.  Mosher  testified  before  this  committee  that  while  he 
was  an  undercover  agent  in  the  Communist  Party  at  the  behest  of 
the  Federal  Bureau  of  Investigation,  he  knew  you  as  a  Communist. 
Was  he  lying  or  was  he  telling  the  truth  ? 

Mr.  Davis.  I  still  invoke  the  fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Arens.  Do  you  know  a  person  by  the  name  of  H.  W.  Mosher, 
the  son  of  W.  C.  Mosher  ? 


COMMUNIST  ACTIVITIES  IN  NEW  HAVEN,  CONN.,  AREA       5745 

Mr.  Davis.  Same  answer. 

'Sir.  Arkns.  Do  you  know  a  person  by  the  nanie  of  Rowena  Paumi  ? 

Mr.  Davis.  Same  answer. 

Mr.  Arexs.  Both  Miss  Paumi  and  H.  W.  Mosher  testified  that  they 
knew  you  as  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party.  Were  they  lying 
or  were  they  telling  the  truth  ? 

Mr.  Davis.  Same  ansAver. 

Mr.  Aeexs.  What  have  been  your  political  activities  since  residing 
ill  New  Haven,  Conn.  ? 

(The  witness  conferred  with  his  counsel.) 

Mr.  Davis.  I  would  invoke  my  right  under  the  fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Arexs.  Were  you  a  presidential  elector  back  in  the  thirties? 

]Mr.  Davis.  I  Avill  use  my  right  under  the  fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  AnExs.  I  lay  before  you  now  a  photostatic  copy  of  lists  of  the 
Communist  caiidiclates  for  November  elections  of  1930,  1932,  1934, 
1936,  and  1938,  including  a  list  of  the  presidential  electors  for  1932 
and  1936,  and  ask  you  to  look  at  that  document  and  tell  us  whether  or 
not  you  are  the  Sam  Davis  alluded  to  as  one  of  the  presidential  electors 
of  the  Communist  Party  ? 

(The  witness  conferred  with  his  counsel.) 

Mr.  Davis.  May  I  have  that  question,  please  ? 

Mr.  Arexs.  Read  the  question,  Mr.  Reporter. 

(Tlie  pending  question  was  read  by  the  reporter.) 

(The  witness  conferred  with  his  counsel.) 

Mr.  Davis.  On  this  question,  I  will  have  to  invoke  my  rights  under 
the  fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  AnExs.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  respectfully  suggest  that  would  con- 
clude the  staff  interrogation  of  this  witness. 

Mr.  Willis.  The  Avitness  may  be  excused. 

Call  the  next  witness. 

Mr.  Arexs.  Emma  Davis,  please  come  forward. 

Please  remain  standing  while  the  chairman  administers  an  oath 
to  you. 

]Sf  r.  Willis.  Raise  your  right  hand,  please. 

Do  you  solemnly  swear  that  the  testimony  you  are  about  to  give  will 
be  the  trutli,  the  whole  truth,  and  nothing  but  the  truth,  so  help  you 
God  ? 

Mrs.  Davis.  I  do. 

TESTIMONY  OF  EMMA  DAVIS,  ACCOMPANIED  BY  COUNSEL,     " 
CHARLES  HENCHEL 

Mr.  Arexs.  Will  you  be  seated,  please. 

^Irs.  Daais.  May  I  request  that  the  television  cameras  be  turned 
off. 

yh\  Arexs.  Kindly  identify  yourself  by  name,  residence,  and  occu- 
pation. 

Mrs.  Davis.  My  name  is  Emma  Davis,  24  Beverly  Road;  I  am  an 
office  worker. 

Mr.  Arexs.  Are  you  related  to  the  witness  who  just  left  the  witness 
chair  ? 

Mrs.  Davis.  Yes;  T  am  his  wife. 

Mr.  Arexs.  Where  were  you  born? 

Mrs.  Davis.  I  was  born  in  Poland. 


5746       COMMUNIST  ACTIVITIES  IN  NEW  HAVEN,  CONN.,  AREA 

Mr.  Arens.  Are  you  appearing  today  in  response  to  a  subpena 
served  upon  you  by  the  House  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  ? 

Mrs.  Davis.  Yes;  I  am. 

Mr.  Arens.  Are  you  represented  by  counsel. 

Mrs.  Davis.  Yes ;  I  am. 

Mr.  Arens.  Will  counsel  kindly  identify  himself  ? 

Mr.  Henchel.  Charles  Henchel,  152  Temple  Street,  New  Haven. 

Mr.  Arens.  When  did  you  come  to  the  United  States? 

Mrs.  Davis.  I  came  here  in  1913  at  the  age  of  4. 

Mr.  Arens.  Are  you  a  citizen  of  the  United  States  ? 

Mrs.  Davis.  I  am. 

Mr.  Arens.  Is  that  by  derivation  or  by  naturalization  ? 

Mrs.  Davis.  By  derivation. 

Mr.  Arens.  When  did  you  acquire  the  status  of  a  citizen  of  the 
United  States? 

Mrs.  Davis.  In  1923. 

Mr.  Arens.  Where  are  you  employed? 

Mr.  Henchel.  If  the  chairman  would  permit  me  to  address  the  com- 
mittee on  this  question  for  the  purpose  of  making  an  offer? 

I  have  an  affidavit  prepared  and  signed  and  sworn  to  by  this  witness 
as  to  her  present  employment.  The  only  purpose  for  making  this  offer, 
rather  than  have  her  respond  orally,  is  to  avoid  embarrassment,  pub- 
licity, notoriety  to  her  employers,  who  are  two  prominent  surgeons  in 
the  city  of  New  Haven  and  who  are  aware  of  the  fact  that  she  has  been 
subpenaed  to  appear  here. 

Mr.  Arens.  Would  you  answer  further  the  question  as  to  whether 
these  two  employers  are  aware  of  the  fact  that  she  has  been  identified 
by  three  live  witnesses,  undercover  agents  for  the  FBI,  as  a  member 
of  the  Communist  conspiracy  ? 

Mr.  Henchel.  I  have  no  way  of  knowing  their  knowledge. 

May  I  ask  that  the  Chair  rule  on  that.  I  would  like  to  submit  the 
affidavit. 

Mr.  Willis.  Counsel  has  a  purpose  in  asking  these  questions. 

Mr.  Arens.  Now,  please  tell  this  committee  where  you  are  em- 
ployed ? 

Mr.  Henchel.  May  I  make  a  comment  for  the  record  ? 

Mr.  Willis.  You  are  not  permitted. 

Mr.  Arens.  Please  tell  this  committee  where  you  are  employed. 

(The  witness  conferred  with  her  counsel.) 

Mrs.  Davis.  Mr.  Arens,  I  would  like  to  have  the  privilege  of  present- 
ing this  in  writing  for  the  same  reasons  that  my  counsel  gave. 

Mr.  Arens.  Now,  please  respond  orally  to  the  question.  Where  are 
you  employed? 

(The  witness  conferred  with  her  counsel.) 

Mrs.  Davis.  I  am  employed  by  Dr.  Maxwell  Lear  and  Dr.  Harry 
Noble. 

Mr.  Arens.  TVTiere? 

Mrs.  Davis.  1172  Chapel  Street. 

Mr.  Arens.  What  capacity? 

Mrs.  Davis.  Secretary-receptionist. 

Mr.  Arens.  How  long  have  you  been  so  employed  ? 

Mrs.  Davis.  Going  on  7  years. 


COMMUNIST  ACTIVITIES  IN  NEW  HAVEN,  CONN.,  AREA       5747 

Mr,  Arens.  What  was  your  employment  immediately  prior  to  tliis? 

Mrs.  Davis.  I  was  a  housewife  and  a  mother  raising  a  family. 

Mr.  Arens.  IVliat  was  your  employment  immediately  prior  to  the 
time  that  you  assumed  your  housewifely  duties  and  responsibilities  as 
a  mother? 

Mrs.  Davis.  I  was  an  office  worker. 

Mr.  Arens.  Where? 

Mrs.  Davis.  In  a  dental  supply  office. 

]Mr.  Arexs.  Are  you  presently  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party  ? 

(The  witness  conferred  with  her  counsel.) 

Mrs.  Davis.  I  decline  to  answer  that  and  invoke  my  privilege  of  the 
fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Arens.  Are  you  presently  under  Communist  Party  discipline? 

]Mrs.  Davis.  Same  answer. 

Mr.  Arens.  Have  you  ever  run  for  public  office  ? 

( The  Avitness  conferred  with  her  counsel.) 

Mrs.  Davis.  I  decline  to  answer  and  I  invoke  the  fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Arens.  Were  you  a  one-time  candidate  for  State  treasurer  on 
the  Communist  Party  ticket  ? 

Mrs.  DA^^s.  Same  answer. 

Mr.  Arens.  I  lay  before  you  now  a  document  which  we  have  pro- 
cured from  the  secretary's  office  of  the  State  of  Connecticut,  listing 
the  names  of  persons  who  were  candidates  for  public  office  on  the  Com- 
munist Party  ticket,  November  election,  1932,  on  which  appears  the 
name  of  Emma  Davis  as  the  candidate  for  the  office  of  treasurer. 

I  ask  you  if  you  are  that  person  ? 

( The  witness  conferred  with  her  counsel. ) 

Mis.  DA^^s.  I  decline  to  answer  that  and  invoke  the  fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Arens.  I  respectfully  suggest,  Mr.  Chairman,  that  this  docu- 
ment be  marked  "Emma  Davis  Exhibit  No.  1"  and  incorporated  by 
reference  in  the  record. 

Mr.  Willis.  It  will  be  so  incorporated. 

(The  document  referred  to,  marked  "Emma  Davis  Exhibit  No.  1," 
was  incorporated  by  reference  in  the  record.) 

Mr.  Arens.  I  lay  before  you  now  a  photostatic  copy  of  a  comparable 
document  procured  from  the  office  of  the  Secretary  of  State  of  Con- 
necticut, listing  the  presidential  electors  for  1936,  and  the  candidates 
for  Congress  on  the  Communist  Party  ticket,  including  Congressman 
from  the  Third  Congressional  District,  Emma  Davis,  160  Gilbert 
Avenue,  New  Haven,  Conn.  I  ask  you  if  you  are  the  Emma  Davis 
referred  to  in  that  document  ? 

Mrs.  DA^^s.  I  decline  to  answer  that  and  invoke  the  fifth. 

Mr.  Arens.  I  respectfully  suggest,  Mr.  Chairman,  that  that  docu- 
ment be  marked  "Emma  Davis  Exhibit  No.  2"  and  incorporated  by 
reference  in  the  record. 

Mr.  Willis.  It  will  be  so  incorporated. 

(The  document  referred  to,  marked  "Emma  Davis  Exhibit  No.  2," 
was  incorporated  by  reference  in  the  record.) 

Mr.  Arens.  I  lay  before  you  now  a  nominating  petition  for  Novem- 
ber 1946  elections  under  tlie  designation  of  the  Communist  Party,  bear- 
ing a  signature,  Emma  Davis,  458  Fountain  Street,  Ward  30.  I  ask 
you  if  you  Avill  kindly  tell  us  whether  or  not  that  is  your  signature 
appearing  on  this  photostatic  copy  of  that  nominating  petition? 


5748       COMMUNIST  ACTIVITIES  IN  NEW  HAVEN,  CONN.,  AREA 

(The  witness  conferred  -vvith  her  counsel.) 

Mrs.  Daa^s.  Same  answer. 

Mr.  Willis.  Does  counsel  offer  that  document  ? 

Mr.  Akens.  Yes. 

Mr.  Willis.  It  will  be  appropriately  marked  and  incorporated  by- 
reference. 

(The  document  referred  to  w^as  marked  "Emma  Davis  Exhibit  No. 
3,"  and  incorporated  by  reference  in  the  record.) 

Mr.  Arens.  Mrs.  Davis,  do  you  know  a  person  by  the  name  of  W.  C. 
ISIosher  ? 

Mrs.  Davis.  I  invoke  the  fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Arens.  Do  you  know  a  person  by  the  name  of  H.  W,  Mosher  ? 

Mrs.  Davis.  Same  answer. 

Mr.  Abens.  Do  you  know  a  person  by  the  name  of  Rowena  Paumi  ? 

Mrs.  Daves.  Same  answer. 

Mr.  Arens.  Miss  Paumi,  would  you  kindly  stand  ? 

Mrs.  Davis,  would  you  please  look  over  your  right  shoulder  and  tell 
us  whether  or  not  you  recognize  that  lady  standing  there  ? 

Mrs.  Davis.  I  decline  to  answer  and  invoke  my  privilege  of  the 
fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Arens.  That  lady  testified  under  oath  that  she  knew  you  while 
she  was  an  undercover  agent  in  the  Communist  conspiracy.  Was  she 
telling  the  truth  or  was  she  lying  ? 

Mrs.  Daves.  I  invoke  the  fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Arens.  W.  C.  Mosher  and  his  son,  H.  W.  Mosher,  both  testi- 
fied under  oath  before  this  committee  that  they  knew  you  as  a  member 
of  the  Communist  Party  while  they  were  undercover  agents  for  the 
Federal  Bureau  of  Investigation  in  the  Communist  Party.  Were 
they  lying  or  were  they  telling  the  truth  ? 

Mrs.  Davis.  I  refuse  to  answer  that  and  invoke  the  fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Arens.  I  respectfully  suggest,  Mr.  Chairman,  that  would  con- 
clude the  staff  interrogation  of  this  witness. 

Mr.  Henchel.  May  I  note  in  the  record  that  in  1936  Mr.  Cretella 
was  not  the  incumbent. 

Mr.  Kearney.  Let  me  ask  you  a  question.  Counsel. 

I  understand  you  are  a  city  judge  in  the  city  of  New  Haven. 

Mr.  Henchel.  That  is  right. 

Mr.  Kearney.  When  you  preside,  do  you  allow  attorneys  in  your 
court  to  carry  on  like  that  ? 

Mr.  Henchel.  We  conduct  our  court  in  a  more  or  less  informal 
manner. 

Mr.  Willis.  Next  witness,  please. 

Mr.  Arens.  If  the  chairman  please,  Mr.  Paul  Bloom  kindly  come 
forward. 

Mr.  Cretella.  I  might  say  to  counsel,  while  I  am  not  a  member 
of  the  committee,  I  am  most  gracious  to  the  chairman  for  his  generosity. 

Mr.  Willis.  Will  you  raise  your  right  hand,  please  ? 

Do  you  solemnly  swear  that  the  testimony  you  are  about  to  give  will 
be  the  truth,  the  whole  truth,  and  nothing  but  the  truth,  so  help 
you  God  ? 

Mr.  Bloom.  I  do. 


COMMUNIST  ACTIVITIES  IN  NEW  HAVEN,  CONN.,  AREA       5749 

TESTIMONY  OF  PAUL  BLOOM,  ACCOMPANIED  BY  COUNSEL, 
CATHERINE  G.  RORABACK 

Mr.  Arexs.  Kindly  identify  yourself  by  name,  residence,  and 
occupation. 

Miss  RoRABACK.  Might  I  request  that  there  be  no  television  or 
cameras  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  Kindly  identify  yourself  by  name,  residence,  and 
occupation. 

Mr.  Bloom.  My  name  is  Paul  Bloom  and  I  live  at  17  Asylum  Street, 
New  Haven,  Conn.     I  am  a  clerk  in  an  investment  house. 

Mr.  Arens.  Are  you  appearing  today  in  response  to  a  subpena  which 
was  served  upon  you  by  the  House  Committee  on  Un-American 
Activities. 

Mr.  Bloom.  Yes. 

Mr.  Arens.  Are  you  represented  by  counsel  ? 

Mr.  Bloom.  Yes. 

Mr.  Arens.  Will  counsel  kindly  identify  herself  ? 

Miss  RoRABACK.  Catherine  G.  Roraback,  185  Church  Street,  New 
Haven,  Conn. 

Mr.  Arens.  Wliat  is  the  nature  of  your  employment  ? 

Mr.  Bloom.  Clerk. 

Mr.  Arens.  In  what  establishment  ? 

Mr.  Bloom.  Brokerage  house  in  the  city  of  New  Haven. 

]Mr.  Arens.  What  is  the  name  of  the  brokerage  house  ? 

Mr.  Bloom.  Gruntal  &  Co. 

Mr.  Arens.  "Wliat  do  you  do  as  clerk  at  the  brokerage  place? 

Mr.  Bloom.  I  handle  the  cash,  I  take  in  securities,  and  hand  out 
securities,  take  in  cash,  and  make  out  checks. 

Mr.  Abens.  How  long  have  you  been  so  employed  ? 

Mr.  Bloom.  I  have  been  employed  in  brokerage  houses 

Mr.  Arens.  How  long  have  you  been  employed  in  the  present  estab- 
lishment ? 

Mr.  Bloom.  1950. 

Mr.  Arens.  What  was  your  employment  immediately  prior  to  your 
j)resent  employment  ? 

Mr.  Bloom.  I  worked  for  Eisel,  King,  Labarie,  Stout  &  Co. 

Mr.  Arens.  Is  that  a  brokerage  firm  ? 

Mr.  Bloom.  Yes. 

Mr.  Arens.  Where  is  that  located  ? 

Mr.  Bloom.  It  was  located  at  177  Church  Street,  New  Haven. 

Mr.  Arens.  How  long  did  you  work  there  ? 

Mr.  Bloom.  The  exact  dates  I  don't  know,  because  they  succeeded 
another  house  and  took  over  another  house  at  the  same  time. 

Mr.  Arens.  What  is  your  best  estimate  as  to  the  period  of  time  that 
you  were  employed  ? 

Mr.  Bloom.  I  think  it  was  1942  or  1943. 

Mr.  Arens.  What  was  your  employment  prior  to  that  time? 

Mr.  Bloom.  Before  that,  with  Labarie,  Stout  &  Co. 

Mr.  Arens.  Is  that  a  brokerage  firm  ? 

Mr.  Bloom.  Yes. 

Mr.  Arens.  Was  that  located  in  New  Haven  ? 

Mr.  Bloom.  Same  address. 

Mr.  Arens.  How  long  were  you  employed  there  ? 


5750       COMMUNIST  ACTIVITIES  IN  NEW  HAVEN,  CONN.,  AREA 

Mr.  Bloom.  I  think  tliey  came  in,  I  can't  recall,  the  late  thirties, 
maybe  1938. 

Mr.  Arens.  What  was  your  employment  immediately  preceding  the 
employment  in  1938  ? 

Mr.  Bloom.  Slepack  &  Co. 

Mr.  Akens.  What  was  the  nature  of  the  business  ? 

Mr.  Bloom.  Investments. 

Mr.  Arens.  Where  located  ? 

Mr.  Bloom.  I  think  the  address  was  197  Church  Street. 

Mr.  Arens.  How  long  were  you  employed  with  them  ? 

Mr.  Bloom.  Well,  they  had  a  partnership  that  broke  up.  I  can't 
remember,  maybe  1935  or  1934,     I  can't  remember  the  dates. 

Mr.  Arens.  Wliat  was  your  employment  imediately  prior  to  that 
employment  ? 

Mr.  Bloom.  Prentiss  &  Slepack. 

Mr.  Arens.  What  was  the  nature  of  the  employment  ? 

Mr.  Bloom.  Investment  house. 

Mr.  Arens.  How  long  were  you  employed  by  them  ? 

Mr.  Bloom.  I  was  employed  by  them  since  1931. 

Mr.  Arens.  Where  were  you  born  ? 

Mr.  Bloom.  New  York  City. 

Mr.  Arens.  A  word,  please,  sir,  about  your  education, 

Mr,  Bloom,  I  attended  grammar  school  2  years  in  New  York  City, 
and  the  rest  of  my  education  in  New  Haven,  at  the  grammar  school, 
New  Haven  High  School,  and  Yale  College, 

Mr,  Arens,  Did  you  graduate  from  Yale  College? 

Mr,  Bloom,  Yes, 

Mr,  Arens.  When  did  you  graduate  from  Yale  ? 

Mr,  Bloom,  1930, 

Mr,  Arens,  What  degree  did  you  receive  ? 

Mr.  Bloom,  Bachelor  of  science. 

Mr.  Arens.  I  take  it  from  the  dates  which  you  have  enumerated 
that  you  went  from  Yale  to  the  brokerage  firm;  is  that  correct? 

Mr,  Bloom.  At  that  time  there  was  a  big  depression  on,  so  I  was 
unemployed  for  about  a  year, 

Mr,  Arens,  Then  your  first  employment  was  with  the  brokerage 
firm? 

Mr,  Bloom,  Right  with  the  brokerage  firm, 

Mr,  Arens,  For  the  purposes  of  identification,  are  you  the  hus- 
band of  Doris  Bloom  ? 

Mr.  Bloom.  That  is  right. 

Mr.  Arens.  To  what  organizations  did  you  belong  when  you  were 
at  Yale? 

Mr.  Bloom.  I  didn't  belong  to  any  that  I  can  recall. 

Mr.  Arens.  Mr.  Bloom,  I  lay  before  you  now  a  photostatic  copy  of 
the  Nominating  Petition  under  the  title  of  the  Communist  Party 
for  Representative  at  Large,  Michael  Russo,  containing  the  signa- 
tures of  a  number  of  persons.  This  is  dated  1946,  November,  and  it 
includes  a  signature  of  a  person  by  the  name  of  Paul  Bloom. 

I  ask  you  if  that  is  your  signature, 

(The  witness  conferred  with  his  counsel,) 

Mr.  Bloom.  I  must  invoke  the  privileges  of  the  fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Arens.  Did  you  ever  live  at  701  Howard  Avenue  ? 


COMJVIUXIST  ACTIVITIES  IX  NEW  HAVEX,  COXX.,  AREA       5751 

yir.  Bloom.  I  did. 

Mr.  Arexs.  Was  that  in  the  fifth  ward? 

Mr.  Bloom.  Yes. 

Mr.  Arexs.  I  respectfully  suggest,  Mr.  Chairman,  that  the  docu- 
ment be  marked  "Paul  Bloom  Exhibit  No.  1"  and  incorporated,  by 
reference,  in  the  record. 

Mr.  Willis.  Let  it  be  so  marked  and  incorporated. 

(The  document  referred  to,  marked  "Paul  Bloom  Exhibit  No.  1," 
was  incorporated  by  reference  in  the  record.) 

Mr.  Arexs.  I  lay  before  you  now  a  photostatic  copy  of  a  nominating 
petition  for  State  Senator,  on  the  Communist  Party,  Sidney  S.  Tay- 
lor, November  1946,  bearing  the  signature,  among  others,  of  Paul 
Bloom,  701  Howard,  and  ask  you  if  you  can  identify  that  signature. 

Mr.  Bloom.  I  must  invoke  the  fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Arens.  Do  you  know  a  person  by  the  name  of  W.  C.  Mosher? 

Mr.  Bloom.  I  invoke  the  privileges  of  the  fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Arens.  Do  you  know  a  person  by  the  name  of  H.  W.  Mosher  ? 

Mr.  Bloom.  I  invoke  the  privileges  of  the  fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Arens.  These  two  gentlemen  under  oath  before  this  committee 
stated  that  they  had  known  j'ou  as  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party. 
AVere  they  lying  or  were  they  telling  the  truth  ? 

Mr.  Bloom.  I  invoke  the  privileges  of  the  fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Arens.  Do  you  know  a  person  by  the  name  of  Rowena  Paumi  ? 

Mr.  Bloom.  I  invoke  the  privileges  of  the  fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Arens.  Miss  Paumi,  would  you  kindly  stand  ? 

Would  you  look  over  your  right  shoulder  and  tell  us  whether  or  not 
you  have  ever  seen  that  lady  before? 

Mr.  Bloom.  Same  answer. 

Mr.  Arens.  Mr.  Bloom,  Miss  Paumi  testified  before  this  committee 
this  morning,  and  named  a  number  of  people,  including  yourself, 
whom  she  knew  as  Communists  while  she  was  an  undercover  agent  for 
the  Federal  Bureau  of  Investigation.  Was  she  lying  or  was  she  tell- 
ing the  truth  ? 

Mr.  Bloom.  I  invoke  the  privileges  of  the  fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Arens.  I  respectfully  suggest,  Mr.  Chairman,  that  that  would 
conclude  the  staff  interrogation  of  this  witness. 

Mr.  Willis.  The  witness  will  be  excused. 

Mr.  Arens.  Mrs.  Doris  Bloom,  please  come  forward. 

Kindly  remain  standing  while  the  chairman  administers  an  oath 
to  you. 

Mr.  Willis.  Please  raise  your  right  hand. 

Do  you  solemnly  swear  that  the  testimony  you  are  about  to  give  will 
be  the  truth,  tlie  whole  truth,  and  nothing  but  the  truth,  so  help  you 
God? 

Mrs.  Bloom.  I  do. 

TESTIMONY  OF  DORIS  BLOOM,  ACCOMPANIED  BY  COUNSEL, 
CATHERINE  G.  RORABACK 

Mr.  Arens.  Will  jou  kindly  identify  yourself  by  name,  residence, 
and  occupation  ? 

Miss  RoRABACK.  May  I  also  request  that  there  be  no  pictures  or 
television. 


5752       COMMUNIST  ACTIVITIES  IN  NEW  HAVEN,  CONN.,  AREA 

Mr.  Arens.  Kindly  identify  yourself  by  name,  residence,  and 
occupation  ? 

Mrs.  Bloom.  My  name  is  Doris  Bloom,  17  Asylum  Street,  New 
Haven,  Conn.,  and  I  am  a  bookkeeper, 

Mr.  Arens.  Where  are  you  employed  ? 

Mrs.  Bloom.  I  am  employed  by  the  Wrentham  Co. 

Mr.  Arexs.  Where  is  that  ? 

Mrs.  Bloom.  That  is  at  12  Whiting  Street,  New  Haven. 

Mr.  Arens.  You  are  appearing  today  in  response  to  a  subpena 
served  upon  you  by  the  House  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  ? 

Mrs.  Bloom.  That  is  right. 

Mr.  Arens.  Are  you  represented  by  counsel  ? 

Mrs.  Bloom.  I  am. 

Mr.  Arens.  Will  counsel  kindly  identify  herself  ? 

Miss  RoRcVBACK.  Catherine  G.  Eoraback,  185  Church  Street,  New 
Haven,  Conn. 

Mr.  Arens.  How  long  have  you  been  in  your  present  employment? 

Mrs.  Bloom.  Six  months. 

Mr.  Arens.  What  was  your  employment  immediately  preceding  the 
present  employment  ? 

Mrs.  Bloom.  I  was  employed  in  another  office  as  a  bookkeeper. 

Mr.  Arens.  Where  was  the  other  office  ? 

Mrs.  Bloom.  It  was  called  the  Tom  Thumb  Novelty.  They  are  out 
of  the  business,  1044  Thomas  Street. 

Mr.  Arens.  How  long  were  you  so  employed  ? 

Mrs.  Bloom.  About  8  months. 

Mr.  Arens.  Wliat  was  your  employment  prior  to  that  ? 

Mrs.  Bloom.  Prior  to  that,  I  was  doing  temporary  office  work. 

Mr.  Arens.  Where  was  that  ? 

Mrs.  Bloom.  With  the  Manpower.     I  was  on  call. 

Mr.  Arens.  You  mean  the  Federal  Government  ? 

Mrs.  Bloom.  No,  no;  it's  an  organization  called  Manpower,  Inc., 
where  they  call  you  for  temporary  office  work  and  you  are  sent  to 
different  offices  on  a  temporary  basis. 

Mr.  Arens.  Prior  to  that  time,  what  was  your  last  principal  em- 
ployment ? 

Mrs.  Bloom.  I  only  worked  during  the  summer  months  because  I 
have  young  children.  I  couldn't  work  other  than  during  the  summer 
months.  Prior  to  that,  I  worked  also  during  the  summer  in  1943, 
A.  C.  Gilbert,  as  a  drill-press  operator. 

Then  for  10  years  prior  to  that,  I  did  not  work  because  I  was  raising 
a  family. 

Mr.  Arens.  Where  were  you  born  ? 

Mrs.  Bloom.  New  Haven,  Conn. 

Mr.  Arens.  Have  you  lived  here  all  your  life  ? 

Mrs.  Bloom.  I  have  lived  here  all  my  life. 

Mr.  Arens.  Can  you  give  us  a  word  about  your  education  ? 

Mrs.  Bloom.  I  went  to  elementary  school  and  graduated  from  high 
school  in  1932. 

Mr.  Arens.  Did  you  graduate  from  high  school  in  1932  in  New 
Haven  ?  ■ 


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COMMUNIST  ACTIVITIES  IN  NEW  HAVEN,  CONN.,  AREA       5753 

Mrs.  Bloom.  In  New  Haven. 

Mr.  Arens.  Did  that  complete  your  formal  education  ? 

Mrs.  Bloom.  Yes. 

Mr.  Arens.  Have  you  received  any  specialized  training  since  ? 

Mrs.  Bloom.  Well,  during  the  war,  1941  to  1942, 1  decided  to  go  to 
•work  in  a  factory,  and  I  took  a  special  course  that  the  Government  was 
giving  at  the  time,  a  200-hour  course,  on  machines.  I  completed  that 
course  in  order  to  be  able  to  go  into  the  factory  and  work,  since  I  hadn't 
worked. 

Mr.  Arens.  Have  you  received  any  special  instruction  or  courses 
other  than  those  you  have  just  recited  to  us  ? 

Mrs.  Bloom.  I  have  not. 

Mr.  Arens.  I  should  like  to  lay  before  you  now,  a  photostatic  copy  of 
a  nominating  petition  of  November  1946,  bearing  the  signature  of 
a  number  of  persons,  nominating  for  the  Communist  Party  for  Kepre- 
sentative  at  Large,  Michael  A.  Russo.  Included  thereon  is  the  signa- 
ture of  Doris  Bloom,  701  Howard  Avenue. 

Will  you  kindly  tell  us  whether  or  not  that  is  your  signature  ? 

Mrs.  Bloom.  I  invoke  my  privilege  under  the  fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Arens.  Did  you  live  at  701  Howard  Avenue  in  November  1946  ? 

Mrs.  Bloom.  I  did. 

Mr.  Arens.  I  lay  before  you  now  a  photostatic  copy  of  a  1946  nomi- 
nating petition  for  State  Senator  for  the  Communist  Party,  Sidney 
S.  Taylor,  bearing  the  signature  of  a  number  of  persons,  including  that 
of  Doris  Bloom,  701  Howard  Avenue,  and  ask  you  whether  or  not  that 
is  your  signature  ? 

Miss  Eoraback.  We  requested  that  no  pictures  be  taken.  I  wonder 
if  the  photographers  would  be  kind  enough  to  respect  that  request? 

Mr.  Willis.  Yes. 

]Mrs.  Bloom.  I  invoke  my  privilege  under  the  fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Arens.  I  respectfully  suggest,  IVIr.  Chairman,  that  the  two 
documents  be  marked  "Doris  Bloom  Exhibits  Nos.  1  and  2,"  respec- 
tively, and  incorporated  by  reference  in  the  record. 

Mr.  Willis.  It  will  be  so  marked  and  incorporated. 

(The  documents  referred  to,  marked  "Doris  Bloom  Exhibits  Nos. 
1  and  2,"  respectively,  were  incorporated  by  reference  in  the  record.) 

Mr.  Arens.  Mrs.  Bloom,  do  you  know  a  person  by  the  name  of  W.  C. 
]\Iosher  ? 

Mrs.  Bloom.  I  invoke  the  privilege  of  the  fifth  amendment. 

Mrs.  Arens.  Do  you  know  a  person  by  the  name  of  H.  W.  Mosher  ? 

Mrs.  Bloom.  I  invoke  my  privilege  under  the  fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Arens.  Each  of  these  persons  took  oath  and  swore  before  this 
committee  that  while  undercover  agents  for  the  Federal  Bureau  of 
Investigation  in  the  Communist  Party,  they  knew  you  as  a  Commu- 
nist.    Were  they  lying  or  were  they  telling  the  truth? 

Mrs.  Bloom.  I  invoke  my  privilege  under  the  fifth  amendment, 

Mr.  Arens.  Miss  Paumi,  would  you  kindly  stand  ? 

Mrs.  Bloom,  would  you  kindly  look  over  your  right  shoulder  at  the 
lady  standing  there,  and  tell  us  whether  you  have  ever  seen  her  before  ? 

Mrs.  Bloom.  I  invoke  my  privilege  under  the  fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Arens.  Miss  Paumi  swore  before  this  committee  this  morning 
that  while  she  was  an  undercover  agent  for  the  Federal  Bureau  of 
Investigation  in  the  Communist  Party,  she  knew  you  as  a  member 
of  the  Communist  conspiracy. 


5754       COMMUNIST  ACTIVITIES  IN  NEW  HAVEN,  CONN.,  AREA 

Mrs.  Bloom.  I  invoke  my  privilege  under  the  fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Arens.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  respectfully  suggest  that  would  con- 
elude  the  staff  interrogation  of  this  witness. 

Mr.  Willis.  The  witness  will  be  excused. 

Mr.  Arens.  Would  Mr.  Bernard  Burg  kindly  come  forward  ? 

Please  remain  standing  while  the  chairman  administers  an  oath 
to  you. 

Mr.  Willis.  Raise  your  right  hand,  please. 

Do  you  solemnly  swear  that  the  testimony  you  are  about  to  give  will 
be  the  truth,  the  whole  truth,  and  nothing  but  the  truth,  so  help  you 
God? 

Mr.  Btirg.  I  do. 

TESTIMONY  OF  BERNAED  BURG,  ACCOMPANIED  BY  COUNSEL, 
CHARLES  HENCHEL 

Mr.  Arens.  Please  be  seated. 

Mr.  Burg.  I  would  like  to  request  no  pictures,  and  no  recording  for 
radio. 

Mr.  Arens.  Kindly  identify  yourself  by  name,  residence,  and  occu- 
pation. 

Mr.  Burg.  My  name  is  Bernard  Burg,  38  Allen  Road,  New  Haven, 
and  I  am  a  salesman. 

Mr.  Arens.  For  what  firm  ? 

Mr.  Henchel.  May  I  make  the  same  offer  for  the  record  of  an  affi- 
davit disclosing  his  present  employers  merely 

Mr.  Willis.  No  ;  you  may  not. 

Mr.  Henchel.  Very  well. 

Mr.  Burg.  Zemel  Bros. 

Mr.  Arens.  "What  is  the  nature  of  that  firm  ? 

Mr.  Burg.  Electrical  appliance  store. 

Mr.  Arens.  Are  you  appearing  today  in  response  to  a  subpena  served 
upon  you  by  the  House  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  ? 

Mr.  Burg.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Are  you  represented  by  counsel  ? 

Mr.  Burg.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Will  counsel  kindly  identify  himself  ? 

Mr.  Henchel.  Charles  Henchel,  152  Temple  Street,  New  Haven. 

Mr.  Arens.  Have  you  ever  been  known  by  any  name  other  than  the 
name  Bernard  or  Bernie  Burg? 

Mr.  Burg.  No,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Wliere  were  you  born  ? 

Mr.  Burg.  Brooklyn,  N.  Y. 

Mr.  Arens.  When,  please,  sir  ? 

Mr.  Burg.  May  8,  1920. 

Mr.  Arens.  And  a  word,  please,  about  your  education. 

Mr.  Burg.  I  attended  grammar  school  and  high  school  in  Brooklyn. 

Mr.  Arens.  Did  that  complete  your  formal  education  ? 

Mr.  Burg.  Except  for  some  Army  courses. 

Mr.  Arens.  What  year  did  you  complete  your  training  at  the  high 
school  ? 

Mr.  Burg.  I  was  supposed  to  graduate  in  1937;  however,  I  had  to 
leave  and  go  to  work.  I  went  back  and  graduated  at  night  and 
graduated  in  1941. 


COMMUNIST  ACTIVITIES  IN  NEW  HAVEN,  CONN.,  AREA       5755 

Mr.  Arexs.  Where  were  you  working  in  the  daytime  when  you  were 
going  to  school  at  night  ? 

yiv.  Burg.  Brooklyn  Navy  Yard,  New  York  City. 

Mr.  Arexs.  Tell  us,  if  you  please,  sir,  the  employment  w^hich  you 
had  after  completion  of  your  high  school  education  in  1941. 

Mr.  Burg.  Subsequently,  I  went  into  the  service  after  leaving  tlie 
Navy  Yard. 

Mr.  Arens.  In  what  branch  of  the  service  ? 

Mr.  Burg.  Originally  the  Air  Force,  and  finally  the  Infantry. 

Mr.  Arexs.  Did  you  receive  a  commission  ? 

Mr.  Burg.  Yes,  sir ;  I  did. 

Mr.  Arexs.  As  a  prerequisite  to  receiving  that  commission,  did  you 
take  an  oath  to  support  and  defend  the  Constitution  of  the  United 
States  against  all  enemies,  foreign  and  domestic? 

Mr.  Burg.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Did  you  have  any  mental  reservations  ? 

Mr.  Burg.  No,  sir.     And  I  might  say  I  resent  that. 

Mr.  Arexs.  Were  you  a  member  of  the  Communist  conspiracy  wdien 
you  took  that  oath  ? 

Mr.  Burg.  No,  sir ;  I  know  of  no  conspiracy. 

^Ir.  Arexs.  Were  you  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party  w^hen  you 
took  tliat  oath  ? 

Mr.  Burg.  No,  sir. 

]\Ir.  Arexs.  Are  you  now^  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party  ? 

Mr.  Burg.  I  might  say  that  the  Constitution  protects  my  rights  of 
political  and  personal  association,  and  I  further  invoke  the  fifth 
amendment. 

Mr.  Arexs.  Were  you  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party  at  any 
time  during  the  period  of  your  service  in  the  Armed  Forces  ? 

Mr.  Burg.  No,  sir. 

Mr.  Arex'S.  "\^nien  w^ere  you  separated  from  the  Armed  Forces  ? 

Mr.  Burg.  August  1946,  separated  with  honorable  discharge. 

Mr.  Arexs.  What  w^as  your  employment  then,  beginning  in  August 
1946  or  as  soon  as  you  could  gain  employment  ? 

]Mr.  Burg.  Salesman,  house-to-house. 

Mr.  Arexs.  What  firm  ? 

^Ir.  Burg.  Fuller  Brush. 

Mr.  Arexs.  Where? 

Mr.  Burg.  New  Haven. 

Mr.  Arex'^s.  How  long  w^ere  you  engaged  as  a  Fuller  Brush  sales- 
man ? 

Mr.  Burg.  For  approximately  2  years. 

]\Ir.  Arexs.  Then  your  next  employment  ? 

]Mr.  Burg.  I  then  worked  for  a  short  time  for  the  People's  Party  of 
Connecticut. 

Mr.  Arexs.  In  what  capacity  ? 

Mr.  Burg.  Oh,  I  forget  the  exact  title,  but  it  was  in  relation  to  the 
election  campaign  for  Wallace  and  Taylor  in  the  Third  Congressional 
District. 

^[r.  Arexs.  Were  you  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party  while  you 
were  engaged  as  a  Fuller  Brush  salesman  from  August  1946  to  August 
1948? 

(The  witness  conferred  with  his  connsel.) 


5756       COMIMUNIST  ACTIVITIES  IN  NEW  HAVEN,  CONN.,  AREA 

Mr.  Burg.  I  believe  that  my  right  to  political  affiliation  and  personal 
association  is  being  violated  by  this  type  of  question,  and  furthermore, 
1  must  invoke  the  fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Arens.  Were  you  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party  on  Janu- 
ary 1,1947? 

Mr.  Burg.  Same  answer,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Were  you  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party  in  August 
of  1946? 

Mr.  Burg.  Same  answer,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Were  you  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party  at  any 
time  within  a  month  of  the  date  you  were  discharged  from  the  Armed 
Forces? 

Mr.  Burg.  I  feel  that  once  again  my  rights  to  political  and  per- 
sonal association  are  being  violated,  and  further,  I  must  invoke  the 
fifth. 

Mr.  Arens.  Were  you  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party  at  any 
time  prior  to  the  period  you  were  in  the  Armed  Forces? 

Mr.  Burg.  I  believe  that  my  political  beliefs,  as  well  as  my  religious 
views,  are  my  own  to  hold  personally,  with  no  one  having  the  right  to 
delve  into  this,  and  I  invoke  the  fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Arens.  Were  you  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party  at  any 
time  during  the  time  you  were  in  the  Armed  Forces  ? 

Mr.  Burg.  I  said  "No,  sir." 

Mr.  Arens.  Did  you  resign  from  the  Conmaunist  Party  when  you 
went  into  the  Armed  Forces  ? 

Mr.  Burg.  This  is  a  trick  question.  I  must  say  that  once  again 
this  involves  my  political  and  personal  rights  and  I  would  take  the 
fifth  amendment  also. 

Mr.  Arens.  What  year  did  you  enter  the  Army  ? 

Mr.  Burg.  Summer  of  1943. 

Mr.  Arens.  Do  you  recall  the  month  ? 

Mr.  Burg.  Not  ofi^hand.    It  was  in  the  summertime. 

Mr.  Arens.  Within  a  month? 

Mr.  Burg.  Excuse  me ;  may  I  consult  with  my  counsel  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  Yes,  you  have  that  privilege. 

(The  witness  conferred  with  his  counsel.) 

Mr.  Burg.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Were  you  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party  any  time 
during  the  year  1943  ? 

Mr.  Burg.  I  must  say  once  again,  even  though  you  are  making 
political  associations  seem  to  be  a  terrible  criminal  thing,  I  must 
invoke  my  rights  under  the  fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Arens.  Do  you  regard  membership  in  the  Communist  Party 
only  as  a  political  activity  ? 

Mr.  Burg.  I  would  like  to  know  under  what  law  that  has  been 
outlawed. 

Mr.  Arens.  Would  you  answer  that  question  ?        ^ 

Is  it  your  contention  that  the  Communist  Party  is  only  a  political 
party  ? 

(The  witness  conferred  with  his  counsel.) 

Mr.  Burg.  Yes,  sir ;  I  do. 

Mr.  Arens.  Well,  then,  tell  us  the  political  party  of  which  you  are 
presently  a  member? 

(The  witness  conferred  with  his  counsel.) 


COMMUNIST  ACTIVITIES  IN  NEW  HAVEN,  CONN.,  AREA       5757 


Mr.  Burg.  Once  again,  this  is  delving  into  my  personal  views, 
politics,  which  I  don't  feel  is  the  business  of  this  or  any  other  Govern- 
ment agency.    I  must  invoke  the  rights  of  the  fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Arens.  Do  you  now  belong  to  a  conspiratorial  apparatus  ? 

Mr.  Burg.  I  have  never  knowingly,  and  do  not  now  knowingly, 
belong  to  any  conspiratorial  apparatus. 

Mr.  Arens.  Do  you  now  belong  to  an  organization  which  is  con- 
trolled by  a  foreign  power? 

Mr.  Burg.  I  do  not  now  belong  to  any  organization  controlled  by 
a  foreign  power. 

Mr.  Arens.  Do  you  now  belong  to  the  Communist  Party  ? 

Mr.  Burg.  I  can  see  what  your  inferences  are,  Mr.  Counsel,  but 
because  the  position  is  relative  between  you  and  me,  I  must  take  the 
fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Arens.  How  were  you  engaged  to  work  for  the  People's  Party 
of  Connecticut?     Who  assigned  you  that  job,  or  who  employed  you"? 

Mr.  Burg.  I  was  employed — I  don't  remember  the  official  body,  but 
it  was  some  official  body  of  the  Third  Congressional  District. 

Mr.  Arens,  Who  was  the  person  or  persons  who  employed  you  ? 

Mr.  Burg.  I  don't  recall  at  this  time  who  specifically  employed  me. 

Mr.  Arens.  How  long  were  you  engaged  by  the  People's  Party  ? 

Mr.  Burg.  Just  for  a  few  months,  about  5  months,  I  would  say, 
approximately ;  a  short  period  of  my  life. 

Mr.  Arens.  Who  were  the  members  of  the  executive  board  or  the 
directors  of  the  People's  Party  here ;  could  you  tell  us  ? 

Mr.  Burg.  Mr.  Arens,  this  w^as  a  short  period  in  my  life. 

Mr.  Arens.  If  you  have  no  recollection  of  it,  just  say  so. 

Mr.  Burg.  I  just  can't. 

Mr.  Arens.  What  w^as  your  next  employment  immediately  after 
you  ceased  your  operations  with  the  People's  Party  ? 

Mr.  Burg.  Well,  being  out  of  work,  and  desperately  in  need  of 
A\ork,  I  applied  for  every  job  I  could  get,  and  the  next  job  I  got  was 
working  for  a  plumbing  concern. 

Mr.  Arens.  How  long  were  you  so  employed  ? 

Mr.  Burg.  A  couple  of  months.    I  don't  remember  exactly. 

Mr.  Arens.  What  year  are  you  in  now^,  1948  ? 

Mr.  Burg.  1948-49,  around  there. 

Mr.  Arens.  "Wliat  was  your  next  employment  ? 

Mr.  Burg.  Detroit  Steel  Co.  in  Hamden,  Conn. 

Mr.  Arens.  In  w^hat  capacity? 

Mr.  Burg.  As  a  machine  operator. 

Mr.  Arens.  How  long  were  you  employed  there  ? 

Mr.  Burg.  For  a  year,  just  about;  I  don't  remember  exactly.  I 
want  to  make  clear  that  that  is  to  the  best  of  my  recollection. 

Mr.  Arens.  Your  next  employment,  please,  sir  ? 

Mr.  Burg.  After,  I  acquired  my  present  job. 

Mr.  Arens.  The  present  establishment  with  which  you  work,  this 
Radio  Center? 

Mr.  Burg.  It  is  known  under  both  names. 

Mr.  Arens.  "\A^iat  is  the  other  name  ? 

Mr.  Burg.  Zemel  Bros,  and  Radio  Center,  Inc.,  under  both  names. 

Mr.  Arens.  Have  you,  in  the  course  of  your  employment  in  the 
Radio  Center,  used  on  a  loan  basis  some  of  the  equipment  of  the  Radio 


5758       COMMUNIST  ACTIVITIES  IN  NEW  HAVEN,  CONN.,  AREA 

Center  for  any  purpose  for  which  you  were  not  given  remuneration 
or  rental  pay  or  compensation  ? 

Mr.  Burg.  I  don't  understand  the  nature  of  the  question,  sir.  You 
will  have  to  be  more  specific. 

Mr.  Arens.  To  be  more  specific,  have  you  used  some  of  the  equip- 
ment of  the  Radio  Center,  such  as  speakers  and  audio  equipment,  for 
meetings,  assemblages,  under  the  auspices  of  the  Communist  Party? 

(The  witness  conferred  with  his  counsel.) 

Mr.  Burg.  I  must  answer  that,  to  the  best  of  my  recollection  on  this, 
I  have  never  done  so. 

Mr.  Arens.  Do  you  know  a  person  by  the  name  of  W.  C.  Mosher  ? 

Mr.  Burg.  Well,  I  must  say  on  this  that  Mr.  Mosher  was  identified 
as  an  informer  during  the  Smith  Act  trial,  and  Jewish  moral  law  for- 
bids association  with  informers.  Under  that  law  I  would  be  de- 
graded. I  also  would  have  to  invoke  the  right  to  the  fifth  amend- 
ment- 
Mr.  Arens.  What  would  be  your  attitude  toward  Khrushchev?  Is 
he  not  the  greatest  informer  of  all  time,  to  inform  on  Stalin  ? 

Mr.  Burg.  I  don't  feel  qualified  to  comment  on  Mr.  Khrushchev. 
If  you  want  to  have  a  political  discussion 

Mr.  Arens.  If  you  want  to  talk  about  the  Communist  Party. 

Are  you  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party  ? 

(The  witness  conferred  with  his  counsel.) 

Mr.  Burg.  Under  the  present  circumstances,  I  feel  this  is  an  illegal 
invasion  into  my  rights  as  a  private  citizen,  and  I  must  invoke  the 
fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Arens.  Do  you  know  W.  C.  Mosher  ? 

Mr.  Burg.  I  previously  answered  that  question,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Have  you  ever  had  any  information  about,  or  associa- 
tion with,  W.  C.  Mosher  other  than  what  you  read  in  the  paper. 

Mr.  Burg.  I  believe  I  previously  answered  that  question. 

Mr.  Arens.  Answer  it  again. 

Mr.  Burg.  All  right. 

I  believe  that  my  own  personal  associations  are  protected  by  the 
first  amendment  in  the  Constitution,  and  it  is  just  a  question  of  simple 
human  morality  of  delving  into  private  business,  and  I  must  protect 
myself  by  using  the  fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Arens.  Do  you  honestly  apprehend  that  if  you  told  this  com- 
mittee whetlier  or  not  you  knew  W.  C.  Mosher  you  might  be  supplying 
information  that  might  be  used  against  you  in  a  criminal  proceed- 
ing? 

(The  witness  conferred  with  his  counsel.) 

Mr.  Burg.  This  is  a  question  that  has  been  asked  of  many  people 
here. 

Mr.  Willis.  Yes,  and  it  is  a  valid  question. 

Mr.  Burg.  Yes,  I  am  not  denying  the  validity  of  the  question. 

Mr.  Willis.  You  can  put  it  any  way  you  want,  but  we  are  just  test- 
ing whether  you  are  honestly  invoking  the  protection  of  the  fifth 
amendment.  If  you  are  honestly  invoking  it,  you  have  absolutely  that 
right. 

Mr.  Burg.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Willis.  But,  in  order  to  invoke  it,  you  must  be  within  the  con- 
stitutional provision. 

Mr.  Burg.  Yes,  sir. 


COMMUNIST  ACTIVITIES  IN  NEW  HAVEN,  CONN.,  AREA       5759 

Mr.  Willis.  Which,  in  essence,  means  that  you  cannot  be  compelled 
to  be  a  witness  against  yourself. 

Mr.  Burg.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Willis.  It  will  not  do  for  you  to  come  here  and  make  little 
speeches  in  advance,  because  of  this  and  that,  and  finally  plead  or 
invoke  the  privileges  of  the  fifth  amendment.  The  question  is  a 
perfectl}^  proper  one.  You  force  it  on  yourself  and  you  have  to  answer 
it. 

Mr.  Burg.  In  connection  with  speeches,  I  have  heard  speeches  all 
day  long  by  people  on  this  side.  I  don't  intend  to  make  a  speech,  but 
because  I  feel  the  implications  of  this  answer  which  I  intend  to  give, 
it  should  be  explained  that  some  people  were  tried  here 

Mr.  Willis.  You  answer  the  question. 

Mr.  Burg.  Can  I  then  explain  the  answer,  sir? 

Mr.  Willis.  There  is  a  very  sinq^le  question  before  you  and  you 
know  the  constitutional  provision  involved. 

(The  witness  conferred  with  his  counsel.) 

Mr.  Burg.  I  must  say  that  not  under  unj  feeling  or  implication  of 
guilt,  the  answer  must  be  "Yes." 

Mr.  Arens.  Do  you  know  a  person  by  the  name  of  Harold  Mosher  ? 

Mr,  Burg.  I  believe  he  is  the  person  I  heard  referred  to  by  James 
O'Connor  Shea  as  a  sneak  and  paid  sneak. 

Mr.  Arens.  Would  you  tell  us,  then,  in  addition  to  being  a  sneak  and 
a  paid  sneak,  was  he  a  liar  when  he  said  he  knew  you  as  a  Communist? 

Mr.  Burg.  I  must  say  that  this  represents  an  invasion  of  my  rights 
and  I  invoke  the  privilege  of  the  fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Arens.  Do  you  know  a  person  by  the  name  of  Rowena  Paumi  ? 

(The  witness  conferred  with  his  counsel.) 

Mr.  Burg.  Once  again  I  must  say  that  I  feel  that  my  personal  as- 
sociations are  my  own  business,  and  I  must  invoke  the  fifth  amend- 
ment. 

Mr.  Arens.  W.  C.  Mosher,  Harold  Mosher,  and  Rowena  Paumi 
testified  under  oath  that  they  knew  you  as  a  member  of  the  Com- 
munist conspiracy.    Were  they  lying  or  were  they  telling  the  truth  ? 

Mr.  Burg.  I  have  answered  this  question  many  ways,  many  times, 
so  far,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Answer  it  again  so  the  record  is  clear  as  to  whether  or 
not  you  want  to  deny  being  a  Communist. 

Mr.  Burg.  I  will  say  that  once  again  I  am  not  ashamed  of  my  polit- 
ical and  personal  beliefs,  but  they  are  made  to  appear  as  criminal 
before  this  hearing.     I  must  invoke  the  fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Arens.  Mr.  t'hairman,  I  respectfully  suggest  that  would  con- 
clude the  staff  interrogation  of  this  witness. 

INIr.  Willis.  The  witness  will  be  excused. 

Mr.  Arens.  May  we  have  a  5-minute  recess,  Mr.  Chairman? 

Mr.  Willis.  Yes. 

(A  sliort  recess  was  taken.) 

Mr.  Willis.  Come  to  order,  please. 

Mr.  Arens.  Mr.  Kreas,  would  you  kindly  come  forward  a  minute? 

TESTIMONY  OF  SAUL  KREAS— Resumed 

Mr.  Arens.  We  have  liere  a  letter  from  you  requesting  an  oppor- 
tunity to  be  heard  with  reference  to  certain  statements  you  say 
were  made  by  Mr.  Mosher,  which  you  wanted  to  deny  under  oath.  We 
are  presently  in  recess  awaiting  the  arrival  of  the  last  witness  of  the 


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session  here.  I  understand  he  will  not  be  here  until  about  a  quarter 
of  4. 

I  want  this  record  to  show  that  we  would  be  very  glad  to  hear  you 
now,  but  you  have  advised  me  unofficially  that  your  attorney  is  not 
presently  available.  Therefore,  the  only  other  alternative  we  have 
is  to  hear  you  in  Washington  at  a  later  date. 

Mr.  Willis.  I  think  I  should  say  this : 

After  the  noon  hour,  I  talked  to  Mr.  Kreas'  counsel,  Mr.  Bingham. 
At  that  time  I  told  him  we  had  six  or  more  witnesses  to  be  heard 
this  afternoon ;  that  I  doubted  very  seriously  that  we  could  reach  you ; 
that,  because  we  still  have  some  outstanding  subpenas,  witnesses  who 
did  not  show  up,  that  the  chances  are  we  will  be  hearing  from  other 
■witnesses  in  this  area ;  and  that,  therefore,  the  record  will  be  left  open 
and  in  due  time  we  would  hear  from  you  and  give  you  an  opportunity 
to  be  heard  again. 

It  develops  that,  since  another  witness  is  late,  we  are  remaining 
here  later  than  we  thought,  and  we  now  find  ourselves  in  a  position  to 
hear  you.  We  still  have  about  an  hour  to  do  it.  I  am  not  pressing 
you.  I  want  the  record  to  be  perfectly  clear  to  you  and  to  the 
committee. 

Mr.  Kreas.  I  regret  very  much.  First,  I  appreciate  your  attitude 
of  giving  me  the  opportunity  to  grant  my  request.  However,  without 
a  counsel,  I  don't  feel  I  should  do  it,  and  the  counsel  might  have 
stayed  here,  if  you  would  state  to  him  what  you  just  stated.  He  was 
definitely  under  the  impression  that  the  business  you  would  have,  you 
would  not  be  able,  and  this  is  why  he  left. 

So  I  accept  the  promise  that  you  will  give  me  the  opportunity. 

Mr.  Willis.  We  do  not  know  where  or  when  that  will  be. 

Mr.  Kreas.  Yes. 

Mr.  Willis.  But  we  do  have,  how  many  outstanding  subpenas  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  Three  that  have  not  been  served. 

Mr.  Willis.  Three  outstanding  subpenas,  witnesses  whom  we  have 
not  heard  from.  This  is  a  continuing  investigation,  and  it  is  quite 
likely  that  there  will  be  more  witnesses  to  be  heard,  and  at  that  time 
you  will  be  notified. 

Mr.  Kreas.  Well,  of  course,  what  I  estimated  it  would  take  me  only 
about  2  minutes. 

Mr.  Willis.  If  you  want  to  testify,  or  even  if  you  want  to  phone  your 
lawyer,  it  is  perfectly  all  right  with  us. 

Mr.  Kreas.  Thank  you  very  much. 

Mr.  Willis.  Mr.  Kreas,  would  you  want  to  phone  your  lawyer? 

Mr.  Kreas.  I  just  want  to  inform  you  that  my  lawyer  lives  in  New 
London,  so  even  if  I  should  be  successful,  it  would  take  him  better 
than  an  hour  to  get  here. 

Mr.  Willis.  All  right. 

(A  recess  of  approximately  1  hour  was  taken.) 

Mr.  Willis.  The  subcommittee  will  come  to  order. 

Counsel  will  call  the  next  witness. 

Mr.  Arens.  Mr.  Samuel  Gruber,  please  come  forward  and  remain 
standing  while  the  chairman  administers  an  oath  to  you,  please. 

Mr.  Willis.  Raise  your  right  hand. 

Do  you  solemnly  swear  that  the  testimony  you  are  about  to  give 
will  be  the  truth,  the  whole  truth,  and  nothing  but  the  truth,  so  help 
you  God? 


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Mr.  Gruber.  I  do. 

Mr.  Chairman,  I  don't  know  whether  there  are  television  pictures 
being  taken  of  me.    May  I  request  that  they  not  be  taken  ^ 

Mr.  Willis.  That  is  the  rule,  that  if  you  object  to  television,  it  will 
be  respected. 

TESTIMONY  OF  SAMUEL  GEUBER,  ACCOMPANIED  BY  COUNSEL, 
CATHERINE  G.  EOEABACK 

Mr.  Arens.  Kindly  identify  yourself  by  name,  residence,  and  occu- 
pation. 

Mr.  Gruber.  My  name  is  Samuel  Gruber.  My  residence  is  Stamford, 
Conn.,  and  I  am  an  attorney. 

Mr.  Arens.  Are  you  appearing  today  in  response  to  a  subpena  which 
was  served  upon  you  by  the  House  Committee  on  Un-American  Activi- 
ties? 

Mr.  Gruber.  That  is  correct. 

Mr.  Arens.  Are  you  represented  by  counsel  ? 

Mr.  Gruber.  Miss  Roraback. 

Mr.  Arens.  Will  counsel  kindly  identify  herself  ? 

Miss  Roraback.  Catherine  G.  Roraback,  185  Church  Street,  New 
Haven,  Conn. 

Mr.  Arens.  Have  you  ever  been  known  by  any  name  other  than  the 
name  Samuel  Gruber  ? 

Mr.  Gruber.  I  was  served  by  the  name  Sam  Gruber. 

Mr.  Arens.  Have  you  been  known  by  any  other  name  ? 

Mr.  Gruber.  No. 

Mr.  Arens.  Where  and  when  were  you  born  ? 

Mr.  Gruber.  November  11, 1906,  Stamford. 

Mr.  Arens.  A  word  about  your  education,  if  you  please,  sir. 

Mr.  Gruber.  I  graduated  from  high  school  in  Stamford  in  1923. 
I  went  to  Columbia  College  and  graduated  there  in  1927.  I  went  to 
Columbia  Law  School  and  graduated  in  1933,  I  believe.  There  was  a 
hiatus  there,  as  you  can  see,  when  I  wasn't  at  law  school. 

Mr.  Arens.  Where  are  you  admitted  to  practice,  please,  Mr.  Gruber  ? 

Mr.  Gruber.  In  Connecticut. 

Mr.  Arens.  Is  that  the  only  State  in  which  you  are  admitted  to 
practice  ? 

Mr.  Gruber.  Yes. 

Mr.  Arens.  Are  you  admitted  to  practice  in  the  Federal  court? 

Mr.  Gruber.  I  am. 

Mr.  Arens.  Have  you  practiced  continuously  since  you  received 
your  degree  from  Columbia  in  1933  ? 

Mr.  Gruber.  Yes. 

Mr.  Arens.  You  took  the  bar  that  year  ? 

Mr.  Gruber.  No.     I  took  the  bar  2  years  later. 

Mr.  Arens.  Where  did  you  take  the  bar  examination? 

Mr,  Gruber.  Connecticut. 

Mr.  Arens.  As  a  prerequisite  to  being  admitted  to  the  bar,  did  you 
take  an  oath  to  defend  and  support  the  Constitution  of  the  United 
States? 

Mr.  Gruber.  I  am  sure  I  did. 


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Mr.  Arens.  Plave  you  at  any  time  since  taking  the  oath  to  defend 
and  support  the  Constitution  of  the  United  States  been  a  member  of 
an  organization  dedicated  to  the  destruction  of  the  Constitution  of 
the  United  States  and  the  forceful  overthrow  of  the  Government  of  the 
United  States  ? 

Mr.  Gruber.  Well,  Mr.  Chairman,  I  would  like  on  that  to  say  that 
I  think  that  that  question  is  an  unconstitutional  invasion 

Mr.  Kearney.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  would  suggest  that  the  witness 
answer  the  question  and  not  make  a  speech. 

Mr.  Gruber.  I  am  not  proposing,  sir,  Mr.  Kearney,  to  make  a 
speech.  I  have  no  intention  of  making  a  speech  and  oration.  I  merely 
want  to  give  my  reasons  for  declining  to  answer  the  question. 

May  I? 

Mr.  Kearney.  As  far  as  I  am  concerned,  so  long  as  it  is  not  a  speech. 

Mr.  Gruber.  It  won't  be  a  speech,  sir.  I  decline  to  answer  the  ques- 
tion on  the  ground  that,  under  the  first  amendment,  it's  an  invasion  of 
my  rights  of  speech,  belief,  and  association,  and  in  addition,  I  claim 
the  privilege  under  the  fifth  amendment  not  to  be  a  witness  against 
myself. 

Mr.  Arens.  Mr.  Gruber,  have  you  ever  been  a  member  of  the  Na- 
tional Lawyers'  Guild  ? 

Mr.  Gruber.  Yes,  I  am  now  a  member. 

Mr.  Arens.  When  did  you  join  the  National  Lawyers'  Guild? 

Mr.  Gruber.  I  don't  recall.  I  would  think  that  it  was  perhaps 
1940,  to  the  best  of  my  recollection,  maybe  a  little  later,  maybe  earlier. 

Mr.  Arens.  Have  you  continuously  been  a  member  of  the  National 
Lawyers'  Guild  since  1940  ? 

Mr.  Gruber.  If  that  is  the  date,  yes. 

Mr.  Arens.  Have  you  ever  held  an  office  in  the  National  Lawyers' 
Guild? 

Mr.  Gruber.  No,  I  have  not. 

Mr.  Arens.  Have  you  consistently  paid  dues  in  the  National 
Lawyers'  Guild  ? 

Mr.  Gruber.  Yes,  I  believe  so. 

Mr.  Arens.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  respectfully  suggest  that  the  citation 
of  the  National  Lawyers'  Guild,  appearing  in  the  Guide  to  Subversive 
Organizations  and  Publications  of  the  House  Committee  on  Un- 
American  Activities,  on  page  85,  appear  at  this  point  in  the  testimony. 

Mr.  Willis.  The  citation  will  appear  in  the  record  at  this  point. 

(The  matter  referred  to  is  as  follows :) 

Cited  as  a  Communist  front  whicli  "is  tlie  foremost  legal  biilwai'k  of  the  Com- 
munist Party,  its  front  organizations,  and  controlled  unions"  and  which  "since 
its  inception  has  never  failed  to  rally  to  the  legal  defense  of  the  Communist  Party 
and  individual  members  thereof,  including  knovpn  espionage  agents."  (Con- 
gressional Committee  on  Un-American  Activities,  Reiwrt  on  the  National 
Lawyers  Guild,  H.  Rept.  No.  3123,  September  21,  1950  (originally  released 
September  17,  1950).) 

Mr.  Gruber.  May  I  see  what  that  is  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  It  is  the  citation  of  the  National  Lawyers'  Guild  by  the 
House  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities,  pursuant  to  which  the 
National  Lawyers'  Guild  is  cited  as  a  Communist  front,  and  in  which 
it  is  also  described  as  being  the  foremost  legal  bulwark  of  the  Com- 
munists in  their  attempt  to  control  unions,  and  wdiich,  since  its  incep- 
tion, has  never  failed  to  rally  to  the  legal  defense  of  the  Communist 


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Pailj,  and  individual  membei-s  thereof,  including  known  espionage 
agents. 

Have  you  been  a  meml)er  of  the  Citizens  Committee  To  Free  Earl 
Bixiwder  ? 

Mr.  Gruber.  The  same  answer  to  that  question  as  to  the  previous 
one. 

Mr.  Willis.  In  other  words,  you  are  invoking  the  first  and  fifth 
amendments  ? 

]Mr.  Gruber.  Yes. 

May  I,  when  I  say 

Mr.  Willis.  It  will  be  satisfactory.     We  are  lawyers  and  there 
were  intervening  questions. 

Mr.  Gruber.  I  meant  that  answer,  and  if  I  may,  Mr.  Chairman, 
I  would  like  to  use  that  in  answering. 

Mr.  Arens.  Have  you  ever  been  identified  with  the  International 
Union  of  Mine,  Mill,  and  Smelter  Workers? 

Mr.  Gruber.  It  seems  to  me  I  have  done  law  work  for  the  Mine, 
Mill. 

JNIr.  Arens.  Have  you  ever  been  a  member  of  the  International 
Union  of  Mine,  Mill,  and  Smelter  Workers  ? 

Mr.  Gruber.  No  ;  I  don't  believe  so.     I  was  only  their  attorney. 
Mr.  Arens.  I  lay  before  you  a  photostatic  copy,  Mr.  Gruber,  of  the 
•Communist  Daily  Worker,  New  York,  March  16,  1942.     I  direct  your 
attention  to  an  article  entitled  "Unionists  in  Five  States  Say  Free 
Browder,"  which  lists  the  names  of  a  number  of  persons  who  have 
petitioned  for  the  freeing  of  Earl  Browder,  including  a  person  identi- 
fied here  as  Samuel  Gruber,  International  representative.  Interna- 
tional Union  of  Mine,  Mill,  and  Smelter  Workers.     I  ask  if  you  would 
kindly  glance  at  that  article  to  see  if  it  refreshes  your  recollection. 
Tell  us  whether  or  not  you  are  the  individual  alluded  to  in  that  article. 
(The  witness  conferred  with  his  counsel.) 
Mr.  Gruber.  Yes. 

Mr.  Arens.  Did  you  sign  the  petition  to  free  Earl  Browder? 
Mr.  Gruber.  The  same  answer,  sir. 

IVIr.  Arens.  Now  please  tell  this  committee 

Mr.  Willis.  The  answer  to  the  previous  question  was  "Yes". 
Mr.  Gruber.  I  am  sorry ;  that  is  correct. 

Mr.  Willis.  I  just  want  the  record  clear.     I  do  not  expect  you  to 
repeat  it  word  for  word. 

You  mean  again  the  invocation  of  the  first  and  fifth  amendments  ? 
Mr.  Gruber.  I  do,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Please  tell  the  committee  the  organizations  to  which 
you  have  belonged  since  1945. 
Mr.  Gruber.  Since  1945? 
Mr.  Arens.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Gruber.  Well,  if  you  would  be  more  specific? 
]\Ir.  Arens.  You  are  a  member  of  the  bar  association? 
Mr.  Gruber.  I  am. 

Mr.  Arens.  Can  you  recall  any  other  organization  of  which  you 
were  a  member  ? 

Mr.  Gruber.  If  you  would  be  more  specific 

Mr.  Arens.  Can  you  now  recall  the  organizations  of  which  you 
have  been  a  member  since  1945  ? 


5764       COMMUNIST  ACTIVITIES  IN  NEW  HAVEN,  CONN.,  AREA 

Mr.  Grubee.  Well,  if  you  are  asking  about  the  Communist  Party 
or  any  other  organizations  like  that,  then  I  give  you  the  same  answer 
as  I  did  before. 

Mr.  Arens.  Tell  us  of  any  organizations  of  the  non-Communist 
variety  of  which  you  may  have  been  a  member  since  1945. 

Mr.  Gruber.  I  didn't  say  that  I  was  a  member  of  any  Communist 
organization,  Mr.  Arens ;  those  are  your  words.  I  am  trying  to  think 
of  organizations  that 

Mr.  Arens.  You  belong  to  the  bar  association  here,  you  say  ? 

Mr.  Gruber.  Yes. 

Mr.  Arens.  How  long  have  you  belonged  to  the  bar  association  ? 

Mr.  Gruber.  I  really  can't  tell. 

Mr.  Arens.  You  belong  to  the  National  Lawyers'  Guild.  You  have 
told  us  about  that. 

Mr.  Gruber.  Yes.  I  have  belonged  to  the  bar  association,  oh,  for 
quite  a  number  of  years.     I  just  don't  remember. 

Mr.  Arens.  At  least  since  1945 ;  is  that  correct  ? 

Mr.  Gruber.  I  would  think  so.  I  belong  to  the  Stamford  Bar 
Association. 

Mr.  Arens.  Are  there  any  other  organizations  of  which  you  have 
been  a  member  since  1945  ? 

Mr.  Gruber.  At  the  moment  I  can't  think  of  any.  If  you  would  be 
good  enough  to  enlighten  me,  or  if  you  have  anything  in  mind,  I  would 
be  very  glad  to  tell  you. 

Mr.  Arens.  Do  you  know  a  person  by  the  name  of  W.  C.  Mosher, 
M-o-s-h-e-r? 

Mr.  Gruber.  I  know  of  him. 

Mr.  Arens.  Did  you  ever  meet  him  ? 

Mr.  Gruber.  Well,  in  view  of  the  fact  that,  as  I  understand  it,  he 
has  appeared  here  as  a  witness — I  haven't  heard  him  nor  have  I 
seen  him — I  would  invoke  the  fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Arens.  Have  you  ever  seen  him  or  have  you  ever  heard  of  him  ? 

Mr.  Gruber.  The  same  answer. 

Mr.  Arens.  Did  you  ever  hear  of  a  man  by  the  name  of  Mike 
Spencer  ? 

Mr.  Gruber.  Who? 

Mr.  Arens.  Mike  Spencer. 

Mr.  Gruber.  It  seems  to  me  that  I  was  representing  a  group  in 
Washington  who  appeared  before  the — I  don't  recognize  the  name. 
I  thought  I  might  have.   I  am  not  sure. 

May  I,  Mr.  Chair^man,  ask  a  question  of  Mr.  Arens  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  Yes,  you  may  ask  me. 

Mr.  Gruber.  I  came  in,  and  of  course  I  knew  that  I  would  have 
to  appear  right  away.  I  didn't  have  the  opportunity  to  hear  fi'om 
you  or  to  ask  if  you  would  be  good  enough  to  enlighten  me  as  to 
what  the  specific  purpose  of  this  inquiry  is. 

Mr.  Arens.  You  do  not  ask  that  in  a  serious  way,  I  am  sure. 
This  is  the  House  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  charged  by 
the  United  States  Congress  to  develop  facts  in  connection  with  the 
Communist  conspiracy.   We  are  here  for  that  purpose. 

Tell  us  whether  you  know  a  person  by  the  name  of  Rowena  Paumi  ? 

Mr.  Gruber.  May  I  just  say  one  thing  before  you  go  on  ? 

The  reason  I  raised  it,  Mr.  Arens,  was  that  I  have  read  in  the 
press  that  one  of  the  reasons  why  this  committee  came  here  was 


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that  it  was  a  followup  on  the  Smith  Act  trials,  at  which  I  was  for  a 
short  time  counsel.    Now,  is  that  so  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  Now  kindly  tell  us  whether  or  not  you  know  a  per- 
son by  the  name  of  Eowena  Paiuni  ? 

Mr.  Gruber.  Since,  as  I  understand  it,  she  has  appeared  here,  too,  I 
would  decline  to  answer  that. 

jMr.  Arens.  INIiss  Paumi,  would  you  kindly  come  forward  ? 

Be  seated,  please.    You  have  already  been  sworn. 

TESTIMONY  OF  EOWENA  R.  PAUMI— Eesumed 

Mr.  Arens.  During  the  course  of  your  membership  in  the  Com- 
munist Party  at  the  behest  of  the  Federal  Bureau  of  Investigation,  did 
you  have  occasion  to  know  a  person  by  the  name  of  Samuel  Gruber  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Did  you  know  whether  or  not  Samuel  Gruber  was  a 
member  of  the  Communist  conspiracy  ? 

]\Iiss  Paumi.  I  have  attended  a  closed  meeting  with  him  in  1945, 
and  other  meetings, 

Mr.  Arens.  Did  you  know  Samuel  Gruber  as  a  Commmiist  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  As  far  as  I  know. 

Mr.  Arens.  Do  you  now  see  in  the  courtroom  that  person  whom  you 
knew  as  a  Communist  ? 

Miss  Paumi.  Yes,  sir, 

Mr.  Arens.  Point  him  out. 

Miss  Paumi.  The  man  on  my  left. 

Mr.  Arens.  Thank  you.  Miss  Paumi. 

TESTIMONY  OF  SAMUEL  GRUBER— Resumed 

IVIr.  Arens.  Will  you  look  at  this  lady,  Mr.  Gruber,  and  tell  us  while 
you  are  mider  oath  whether  or  not  she  was  lying  or  telling  the  truth 
when  she  identified  you  as  a  person  known  to  her  to  be  a  Communist? 

JMr.  Gruber.  Same  answer. 

Mr.  Arens.  Now,  Mr.  Gruber,  W.  C,  Mosher  took  an  oath  before 
this  committee  and  stated  in  effect  that  while  he  was  an  undercover 
agent  for  the  Federal  Bureau  of  Investigation  in  the  Communist 
Party,  he  knew  you  as  a  Communist.  Was  he  lying  or  was  he  telling 
the  truth  ? 

Mr.  Gruber.  I  would  appreciate  it,  Mr.  Arens,  if  you  would  ex- 
plain what  you  mean  when  you  say  "in  effect"  ?     Did  he 

Mr,  Arens.  You  are  not  going  to  quibble  with  me  now. 

Do  you  want  to  deny  that  W.  C.  Mosher  was  telling  the  truth  when 
he  said  he  knew  you  as  a  Communist  ? 

Mr.  Gruber,  It  was  your  statement;  not  mine.  You  said  he  said 
"in  effect,"  Now  you  are  a  lawyer  and  I  am  a  lawyer.  I  understand 
a  little  bit  as  to  what  words  mean. 

Did  Mr.  Mosher  say  it  or  did  he  not?     I  would  like  to  know, 

Mr.  Arens.  Mr.  Mosher  said  he  knew  you  as  a  Communist. 

Now,  would  you  tell  us,  was  Mr.  Mosher  lying  or  was  he  telling  the 
truth? 

Mr.  Gruber.  Is  that  what  he  said  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  respectfully  suggest  that  the  witness  be 
ordered  and  directed  to  answer  that  question. 


5766       COMMUNIST  ACTIVITIES  IN  NEW  HAVEN,  CONN.,  AREA 

Mr.  Willis.  Yes,  you  are  directed  to  answer  the  question,  particular- 
ly since  you  have  a  choice,  independently  of  what  Mr.  Mosher  might 
have  said  or  not  said,  to  come  forward  on  your  own  and  affirm  or  deny 
the  fact. 

Mr.  Gruber.  May  I  consult  for  just  a  minute? 
(The  witness  conferred  with  his  counsel.) 

Mr.  Gruber.  May  I  have  the  question  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  Mr.  Keporter,  will  you  please  read  the  question? 
(The  pending-  question  was  read  by  the  reporter.) 

Mr.  Gruber.  The  same  answer  as  before,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Have  you  ever  been  a  member  of  a  legal  commission  of 
the  Communist  Party? 

Mr.  Gruber.  Same  answer. 

Mr.  Arens.  Have  you  ever  been  a  member  of  the  State  executive 
board  of  the  Communist  Party  ? 

Mr.  Gruber.  Same  answer. 

Mr.  Arens.  I  put  it  to  you  as  a  fact,  and  ask  you  to  affirm  or  deny 
the  fact,  that  you  were  a  member  of  the  State  executive  board  of  the 
Communist  Party  of  the  State  of  Connecticut. 

Mr.  Gruber.  The  same  answer. 

Mr.  Arens.  Are  you  now  a  Communist  ? 

Mr.  Gruber.  Same  answer. 

Mr.  Arens.  Are  you  presently  under  Communist  Party  discipline  ? 

Mr.  Gruber.  Am  I  what? 

Mr.  Arens.  Are  you  presently  under  Communist  Party  discipline  ? 

Mr.  Gruber.  Would  you  explain  what  you  mean  by  "under  Commu- 
nist Party  discipline"  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  Yes,  sir. 

Are  you  presently  receiving  orders  and  directions  from  the  Com- 
munist conspiracy  with  respect  to  any  activity  by  yourself? 

Mr.  Gruber.  Let  me  make  it  perfectly  clear,  Mr.  Arens,  that  in  my 
20  years  of  practice  as  an  attorney,  I  have  never  received  orders  from 
anyone  in  the  legal  profession,  in  the  representation  of  clients,  in  doing 
what  I  could  to  help  them  as  I  saw  their  needs  and  problems. 

Mr.  Kearney.  Are  you  now  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party  ? 

Mr.  Gruber.  I  have  declined  to  answer  that,  sir. 

Mr.  Kearney.  Have  you  ever  been  a  member  of  the  Communist 
Party? 

Mr.  Gruber.  I  have  said  the  same  answer. 

Mr.  Kearney.  Your  voice  has  been  so  low  I  did  not  hear  you. 

Mr.  Gruber.  I  am  sorry,  sir.  I  would  really  like  to  have  some 
water.     My  lips  are  awfully  dry. 

Mr.  Arens.  Certainly. 

Have  you  consulted  with  anyone  known  to  you  to  be  a  member  of 
the  Communist  Party  with  reference  to  your  appearance  before  this 
committee  today  ? 

Mr.  Gruber.  I  decline  to  answer,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  respectfully  suggest  that  would  con- 
clude the  staff  interrogation  of  this  witness. 

Mr.  Willis.  The  witness  will  be  excused. 

The  Chair  wishes  to  make  this  statement. 

The  accomplishments  of  an  investigating  committee  such  as  the 
House  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  cannot  adequately  be 
appraised  statistically.     By  the  very  nature  of  its  work,  we  are  dealing 


COMMUNIST  ACTIVITIES  IN  NEW  HAVEN,  CONN.,  AREA       5767 

with  something  which  is  intangible  though  very  real,  and  though  real, 
it  is  illusive. 

What  we  have  witnessed  here  in  the  past  3  days,  I  believe,  revealed 
the  following: 

First,  we  have  seen  additional  parts  of  a  pattern  of  Communist  tech- 
nique. All  of  the  parts  of  the  mosaic  are  not  completely  visible,  but 
there  has  been  revealed  additional  light  on  the  Communist  drive  to 
colonize  industrial  areas.  We  have  heard  former  undercover  agents 
of  the  FBI  testify  concerning  the  extent  and  strength  of  the  con- 
spiracy in  this  area.  We  have  learned  a  bit  more  about  the  current 
organizational  pattern  of  the  Communist  Party,  its  groupings,  and  the 
focal  points  of  its  emphasis. 

Secondly,  we  have,  I  believe,  brought  to  the  attention  of  tlie  people 
of  this  area  the  serious  nature  of  this  conspiracy,  and  the  hard  fact 
of  its  present  existence  in  various  fabrics  of  our  society.  This  problem 
is  a  problem  not  only  for  the  Federal  agencies  of  our  Government,  but 
it  is  a  rightful  concern  of  all  loyal  Americans. 

Third,  we  have,  I  hope,  struck  another  blow  at  the  conspiracy  by 
bringing  a  few  more  Communists  to  the  light  of  day. 

Fourth,  we  have  additional  material  with  which  to  reappraise  the 
many  laws  which  undertake  to  cope  with  the  ever-changing,  devious 
Communist  operations  in  our  land. 

Now  I  wish  to  thank  the  many  who  have  made  our  visit  pleasant, 
including  tlie  United  States  marshal  and  his  assistants;  the  district 
attorney,  Mr.  Cohen ;  Judge  Anderson,  for  the  facilities  of  his  court- 
room; the  other  officials  of  the  court;  and  the  press,  the  radio,  and 
others  who  have  been  so  gracious  to  us. 

I  wish  to  add  on  a  personal  note  that  this  subcommittee  was  happy 
to  have  with  us  during  most  of  our  hearings  our  colleague  from  this 
area.  Congressman  Cretella.  We  appreciate  his  presence  and  his 
interest  in  the  work  of  this  committee. 

Now  I  wonder  if  General  Kearney  would  care  to  add  any  specific 
remarks? 

Mr.  Kearney.  No;  I  have  nothing  specific  to  add,  Mr.  Chairman. 
I  wholeheartedly  agree  with  your  statement,  particularly  with  refer- 
ence to  the  courtesies  that  have  been  extended  to  us  by  Mr.  Cohen  and 
the  United  States  marshals,  and  also  the  members  of  the  press,  the 
cameramen,  and  the  TV  men.  As  you  say,  Mr.  Chairman,  we  ap- 
preciate the  presence  of  our  colleague,  Mr.  Cretella,  who  has  shown 
such  an  interest  in  this  fight  against  communism,  not  only  here  but 
in  the  Halls  of  Congress. 

Mr.  Willis.  Mr.  Counsel,  I  understand  that  you  have  no  further 
witnesses  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  That  is  correct,  Mr.  Chairman. 

Mr.  Willis.  I  have  already  brought  out  the  fact  that  we  have  2 
or  3  more  outstanding  subpenas.  Mr,  Kreas  was  afforded  an  op- 
poi'tunity  to  be  heard  again  this  afternoon,  but,  unfortunately,  his 
counsel  was  not  present;  so  I  am  quite  sure  that  the  persons  under 
these  outstanding  subpenas,  as  well  as  some  other  witnesses  our  investi- 
gators might  want  to  interview  in  this  area  at  a  time  and  place  to  be 
announced,  will  be  heard  at  a  later  date. 

We  will  call  the  hearings  to  a  conclusion. 

I  should  be  happy  to  have  a  word  from  our  colleague,  Mr.  Cretella. 


5768       COMMUNIST  ACTIVITIES  IN  NEW  HAVEN,  CONN.,  AREA 

Mr.  Cretella.  Mr.  Chairman,  as  a  Member  of  Congress  represent- 
ing this  Third  Congressional  District  of  Connecticut,  it  was  a  pleasure 
for  me  to  have  had  you  in  our  midst  with  this  very  serious  under- 
taking, this  very  important  investigation  that  you  have  been  con- 
ducting. During  the  course  of  the  year,  this  same  Un-American  Activ- 
ities Committee,  of  which  you  are  now  chairman  of  the  subcommittee, 
has  had  extended  hearings  throughout  the  country.  You  have  taken, 
I  know,  a  great  deal  of  verbal  abuse  and  otherwise,  and  so  have  your 
predecessors  in  the  same  chairmanships,  and  we  have  gone  down 
through  the  years  with  the  same  abuse  heaped  on  us. 

I  think  every  Member  of  Congress  is  vitally  interested  in  this  prob- 
lem that  is  confronting  this  Nation,  and  I  am  appalled  to  find  that  in 
our  very  midst  in  this  beautiful  and  grand  State  of  Connecticut  we 
have  such  an  infiltration  of  people  so  disloyal  to  a  fine  country.  I 
hope  that  in  the  next  Congress,  if  the  need  arises  to  further  strengthen 
the  laws  against  communism  and  infiltration  of  disloyal  individuals, 
that  legislation  will  be  passed. 

I  was  glad  to  have  welcomed  you  here,  and  I  hope  you  enjoyed 
your  stay. 

Mr.  Willis.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Cretella. 

(Whereupon,  at  4 :  20  p.  m.  Wednesday,  September  26,  1956,  the 
suDcommittee  recessed,  subject  to  the  call  of  the  Chair.) 


INDEX 


Individuals 

Page 

Alpert,  Yetta 5659 

Arsenault,  Oliver 5608,  5612-5623  (testimony),  5625,  5626,  5633,  5635,  5728 

Bailin,   Esther 5728 

Barnes,  Joseph 5607,5608,5611,5664,5734,5736-5739  (testimony) 

Barnes,  Lois  (Mrs.  Joseph  Barnes) 5607, 

5608,  5611,  5664,  5729,  5732,  5739-5742  (testimony) 

Bingham,  Alfred  M 5647,  5760 

Bloom,  Doris  (Mrs.  Paul  Bloom) 5658,5750,5751-5754  (testimony) 

Bloom,  Paul 5658-5660,  5682,  5749-5751  (testimony) 

Browder,  Earl 5644,  5763 

Brunin.     (See  Kreas,  Saul.) 

Burg,  Bernard  (Bernie) 5664,  5680,  5682,  5732,  5754-.5759  (testimony) 

Burke,  Barney 5661 

Brunswick,  Rose 5684 

Callanan 5734 

Carter,  Helena 5684 

Chapman,  Cal 5607 

Chavez,  Joseph 5708 

Cheyfitz,  Edward 5703 

Clark,  John 5708,  5709,  5711 

Coleman,  Edward 5706,  5707 

Cruckray,  Max 5659 

Davis,  Emma  (Mrs.  Samuel  Davis) 5659, 

5660,  5682,  5683,  574.5-5748  (testimony) 

Davis,  Samuel 5659,  5683,  5742-5745  (testimony) 

Demow,  Joseph 5607,  5660,  5663,  5683 

Demow,  Lil  (Mrs.  Joseph  Demow) 5683 

Dennis,  Ray 5708 

Dichter,  Irving 5607,  5701-5711  (testimony) 

Ekins,  Bob 5607 

Farkasi,    Mary 5i729 

Farmer,  Estelle  (Mrs.  Leonard  Farmer) 5663 

Farmer,  Leonard ^ 5663 

Fazekas,  Frank 5607,5608,5623-5631  (testimony),  5633,  5634,5663,  5728 

Finn,  Jack 5728 

Foxworth 5729 

Gibbs,  Jimmy 5607,  5680 

Gilden,  Bert  David 5585-5598  (testimony),  5599-5605  (testimony),  5608,  5611 

Gilden,  Kateha  (Mrs.  Bert  Gilden) , 5607,  5608 

Goldberg,   Dave 5664 

Goldring,   Harriet 5728 

Goldring,  Jake 5605,  5607 

Green,  Fanny 5660,  5664 

Gruber,  Samuel 5663,  5683,  5730,  5761-5766  (testimony) 

Hawley,  Celeste 5680 

Hemingway,  Ernest 5741 

Henchel,  Charles 5742,  5745,  5754 

Howard,   Asbury 5708 

Hubbell,  Harvey 5605 

Hubblebank,  Diane 56.59 

Jakowenko,  Konstantlne 5689-5695  (testimony),  5696 

Kaplan,  Harry 5684 

Kaplan,  Lillian  (Mrs.  Harry  Kaplan) 5660,-5684 

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Page 

Kaufman,  Mary  M 5612,  5623,  5631 

Kavser,  Arlene.     ( See  Resnick,  Arlene. ) 

Keating,  William 5686 

Kennedy,  Bob 5662 

Kent,  Harold 5597, 

5559    (testimony),  5605-5612   (testimony),  5620-5622,  5627-5629, 
5635,  5641,  5645,  5666,  5676,  5677,  5688,  5709,  5727,  5739,  5741. 
Krasnogorsky,  Sholem.    (See  Kreas,  Saul.) 

Kreas,  Pauline  (Mrs.  Saul  Kreas) 5659 

Kreas,  Saul  (real  name  Sholem  Krasnogorsky,  also  known  as  Brunin) 5647- 

5653  (testimony),  565^5656  (testimony),  5659,  5665-5667,  5681, 
5732,  5759,  5760,  5767. 

Larson,  Orville 5708 

Lawrence,  Alton 5708 

Lear,  Maxwell 5746 

Lindsey,  Jean 5662 

Lockwood,  Ralph 5636,  5736,  5739 

Marder,  Al 5661 

Margolin,   Louise 5659 

Margolin,  Oscar 5659,  5662 

McDonough,   James 5662 

McLeach,  Bert 5608 

Meites,  Thelma 5660 

Mosher,  Harold  W 5650, 

5661,  5678-5685  (testimony) ,  5744,  5745,  5748,  5751,  5753,  5759 

Mosher,  Worden  C  (also  known  as  Mike  Spencer) 5627, 

5645,  5650,  5653-5654  (testimony),  5655,  5656-5668  (testimony), 
5678,  5726,  5744,  5745,  5748,  5751,  5753,  5758,  5759,  5764-5766. 

Noble,  Harry 5746 

Paumi,  Rowena  R 5597, 

5604,  5621,  5622,  5627,  5628,  5635,  5641,  5645,  5650,  5654,  5666,  5677, 
5688,  5694,  5699,  5725-5726  (testimony),  5727-5736  (testimony), 
5739,  5741,  5745,  5748,  5751,  5753,  5759,  5764,  5765  (testimony). 

Peterson,  Frank 5610,5642-5646  (testimony),  5664,  5728' 

Pezzati,  Albert 5708,  5709 

Pistey,  William 5608,5631-5636  (testimony),  5728 

Powers,  Chase 5708 

Rabinowitz,   Victor 5668,  5685,  5689,  5690,  5695,  .5696 

Rapuna,  Henry 5706,  5707 

Raymond,  George  Russell 5663 

Resnick,  Arlene  (Mrs.  Sidney  Resnick,  nee  Kayser) 5680 

Resnick,  Sidney 5680 

Richter,  Charlotte  (Mrs.  Samuel  Richter) 5607, 

5610,  5678,  568.5-5689  ( testimony ),  5733. 

Richter,    Samuel 5610,  5635,  5668-5678  (testimony) ,  5685,  5690,  5696,  5733 

Rogers,  Addie 5729 

Rogers,  Harold 5729 

Roraback,  Catherine  G 5585,  5642,  5749,  5751,  5761 

Rosenberg,  Ethel 5732-5734 

Rosenberg,   Julius .5732-5734 

Russo,  Michael  A 5725,  5750,  5753 

Russo,    Pearl 5729 

Shea,  James  O'Connor 5759 

Simons,   Irv 5680 

Simons,   Virginia 5680 

Sito,  Ida 5734 

Sito.  Louise 5728,  5729 

Small,  Priscilla 5661,  5680 

Soyka,    Joseph 5659 

Spector,  Sarah  (Mrs.  Isadore  Spector) 5659 

Spector,  Isadore 5659 

Spencer,  Mike.     {See  Mosher,  Worden  C.) 

Stahl.  Dave 5664 

Steinberg,  Hyman 5690,5695-5700  (testimony) 

Sutton,   Al 5729 

Sykes,  Emmett 5729 


INDEX  iii 

Sykes,  Mattie 5608,  5636 

Tate,  Jim 5607 

Taylor,  Sidney  S 5607,  5662,  5751,  5753 

Thompson,  Joe 5729 

Tomac-h,  Sam 5734 

Towies,   Burl 5680 

Travis,  Maurice 5707,  5711 

Trudeau,  Clyde 5681 

Ward,    Roosevelt 5607 

Weed,  Verne 5708,  5709,  5731 

Weinberg.  Milton I 5610,5636-5641  (testimony),  5734 

Weinberg,  Mrs.  Milton 5734 

Weissman,    Sol 5683 

Willard,  Josephine 5605,  5607,  5608, 

5619,  5663,  5664,  5712-5725  (testimony),  5726-5727  (testimony),  5728 

Willcox,  Elsie 5708,  5709,  5731,  5734 

Witt,  Nathan 5705 

Wyman,   Jack 5728 

Young.  Al 5607 

Yuchniek,    Grace 5729 

Yuchnick,  Mike 5729 

Zanella,  Vincent,  Jr 5712 

Organizations 

AVCO  Manufacturing  Corp 5610,  5636,  5642,  5660 

Aid  to  Wives  of  the  Smith  Act  Victims 5732 

Amnesty   Committee,    Connecticut 5732 

Bridgeport  Women  for  Peace 5740,5741 

Civil  Rights  Congress 5732 

Communist  Party  : 

Connecticut 5657 

Executive  Committee 5606,  5766 

Negro    Commission 5606,  5607 

State  Board    (concealed) 5606,5607,5609 

State     Committee 5606,  5663 

University  of  Connecticut  cell ._     5681 

Bridgeport 5608,  5610,  5611,  5724 

Bridgeport  Club 5728 

Cell  within  General  Electric  Co 5607,  5611 

City  Committee 5606,  5607 

Decca  Branch 5727,  5728 

Decca-Columbia  Branch 5728 

East  End  Branch 5728,  5729 

Executive   Board 5726 

North  End  Branch 5728 

12-B   Branch 5729 

New  Haven 5658,  5661 

A.  F.  of  L.  Club 5663 

Branford  Club 5662 

CIO  Club 5063 

Dixwell  Club 5660 

Finance    Committee 5657 

Grand  Avenue  Club 5661,  5662 

Hill  Club 5658,  5682 

Howe  Street  Club 5659,  5664,  5683,  5684 

Industrial  Club 5662,  5663 

Organization  and  Education  Committee 5<)57 

Professional  Club 5663,  56(54 

Railroad  Club 5662 

Section  Committee 5679,  5681 

Yale  Club 5663,  5679,  5680 

Youth  Club   (group) 5661,  5664,  5679,  5680,  5682 

Communist  Political  Association 5729 

Connecticut  I'eace  Council 5731-5733 

Connecticut  Volunteers  for  Civil  Rights 5732,  5738 

Diecasting  Workers,  National  Association  of 5703 


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Electrical,  Radio  and  Machine  Workers  of  America,  United :  Local  208, 

Bridgeport.  Conn 5617,  5618,  5625,  5626,  5630,  5644 

Executive  Board 5618 

Electrical  Workers,  International  Union  of .     563S 

Freedom  of  the  Press  Committee 5693 

General  Electric  Co.,  Bridgeport,  Conn 5594,  5596,  5605, 

5610,  5613,  5615,  5617,  5624,   5625,  5631,  5632,  5643,  5660,  5728 

Jefferson  School  of  Social  Science 5606 

Labor  Youth  League 5680,  5682 

March  of  Labor  (publication) 5630 

Mine,  Mill  and  Smelter  Workers,  International,  Union  of  _-__  5701,  5703-5707,  571 1 

Executive  Board 5708 

National  Lawyers  Guild 5762 

Painters,    Decorators    and    Paperhangers   of   America,    Brotherhood    of, 

A.  F.  of  L. :  Local  186 5649 

People's  Party,  Connecticut 5592,  5-595,  5608,  5619,  5755,  5757 

Progressive  Party 5592 

Reliable  Steel  Dx-um  Co.,  Bridgeport,  Conn 5669 

Singer  Manufacturing  Co.,  Bridgeport,  Conn 5596,  5737 

Young  Communist  League 5725 

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