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HARVARD  COLLEGE 
LIBRARY 


GIFT  OF  THE 

GOVERNMENT 
OF  THE  UNITED  STATES 


INVESTIGATION  OF  COMMUNIST  ACTIVITIES  IN  THE 
NEW  ENGLAND  AREA— PART  1 


HEARINGS 


BEFORE  THE 


COMMITTEE  ON  UN-AMERICAN  ACTIVITIES 

HOUSE  OF  REPRESENTATIVES 


EIGHTY-FIFTH  CONGRESS 

SECOND  SESSION 


MARCH  18,  1958 


Printed  for  the  use  of  the  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities 
INDEX  IN  PART  3 


J 

UNITED  STATES 
GOVERNMENT  PRINTING  OFFICE 
24777  WASHINGTON  :  1958 

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U81TED  STATES  GOVERNMENI 


COMMITTEE   ON  UN-AMERICAN  ACTIVITIES 
United  States  House  of  Representatives 
FRANCIS  E.  WALTER,  Pennsylvania,  Chairman 
MORGAN  M.  MOULDER,  Missouri  BERNARD  W.  KEARNEY,  New  York 

CLYDE  DOYLE,  California  DONALD  L.  JACKSON,  California 

EDWIN  E.  WILLIS,  Louisiana  GORDON  H.  SCHERER,  Ohio 

WILLIAM  M.  TUCK,  Virginia  ROBERT  J.  McINTOSH,  Michigan 

Richard  Arens,  Staff  Director 
II 


CONTENTS 


PART  1 

Page 

Synopsis 2081 

Tuesday,  March  18,  1958:  Testimony  of— 

Armando  Penha 2090 

Afternoon  session: 

Armando  Penha  (resumed) 2111 

Ralph  C.  Lofsky 2133 

Samuel  Appel 2139 

Armando  Penha  (resumed) 2151 

Samuel  Appel  (resumed) 2152 

Otis  Archer  Hood 2156 

Anne  Burlak  Timpson 2158 

Joseph  Sherman 2164 

PART  2 

Wednesday,  March  19,  1958:  Testimony  of — 

Irving  Fishman 2174 

Eleanor  Suske 2174 

Dorothy  Friedman 2192 

Muriel  Gravelle  McAvoy 2201 

Afternoon  session: 

Louis  C.  Wyman 2204 

Sidney  Ravden 2224 

David  Murray  Fein  (Fine) 2230 

Manuel  Cordeiro,  Jr 2241 

Olga  Garczynski 2246 

Harold  Lester  Lewengrub - 2250 

James  Rex 2256 

Evening  session: 

Daniel  Boone  Schirmer 2258 

Armando  Penha  (resumed) 2268 

PART  3 

Thursday,  March  20,  1958:  Testimony  of— 

Carol  Harris  Foster 2284 

Albert  D'Orlando  (executive  testimony,'  March  14,  1958,  Wash- 
ington, D.  C.) 2311 

Afternoon  session: 

Arnold  Schwartz 2321 

Paul  S.  Ecsenkrants 2328 

Robert  Handman 2337 

Elias  Snitzer 2340 

Homer  B.  Chase 2356 

George  Sheldrick 2362 

Anthony  DiBiase 2364 

Douglas  Neil  Perry 2367 

Armando  Penha  (resumed) 2371 

Douglas  Neil  Perry  (resumed) 2372 

Jerry  (Jerome)  Olrich 2377 

Joseph  K.  Chase 2381 

Friday,  March  21,  1958:  Testimony  of — 

Armando  Penha  (resumed) 2388 

Roy  Rogerson 2403 

Philip  W.  Lefavour 2405 

Benning  Maskiewicz 2412 

John  Russo 2416 

John  G.  Hovan 2417 

'  Released  by  the  committee  and  ordered  to  be  printed. 

Ill 


Public  Law  601,  79th  Congress 

The  legislation  under  which  the  House  Committee  on  Un-American 
Activities  operates  is  Pubhc  Law  601,  79th  Congress  [1946],  chapter 
753,  2d  session,  which  provides: 

Be  it  enacted  by  the  Senate  and  House  of  Representatives  of  the  United  States 
of  America  in  Congress  assembled,   *  *  * 

PART  2— RULES  OF  THE  HOUSE  OF  REPRESENTATIVES 

Rule  X 

SEC.  121.    STANDING    COMMITTEES 
******* 

17.  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities,  to  consist  of  nine  Members. 

Rule  XI 

POWERS    AND    DUTIES    OF    COMMITTEES 
******  4i 

(q)    (1)   Committee  on  Un-American  Activities. 

(A)   Un-American  activities. 

(2)  The  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities,  as  a  whole  or  by  subcommit- 
tee, is  authorized  to  make  from  time  to  time  investigations  of  (i)  the  extent, 
character,  and  objects  of  un-American  propaganda  activities  in  the  United  States, 
(ii)  the  diffusion  within  the  United  States  of  subversive  and  un-American  propa- 
ganda that  is  instigated  from  foreign  countries  or  of  a  domestic  origin  and  attacks 
the  principle  of  the  form  of  government  as  guaranteed  by  our  Constitution,  and 
(iii)  all  other  questions  in  relation  thereto  that  would  aid  Congress  in  any  necessary 
remedial  legislation. 

The  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  shall  report  to  the  House  (or  to  the 
Clerk  of  the  House  if  the  House  is  not  in  session)  the  results  of  any  such  investi- 
gation, together  with  such  recommendations  as  it  deems  advisable. 

For  the  purpose  of  any  such  investigation,  the  Committee  on  Un-American 
Activities,  or  any  subcommittee  thereof,  is  authorized  to  sit  and  act  at  such 
times  and  places" within  the  United  States,  whether  or  not  the  House  is  sitting, 
has  recessed,  or  has  adjourned,  to  hold  such  hearings,  to  require  the  attendance 
of  such  witnesses  and  the  production  of  such  books,  papers,  and  documents,  and 
to  take  such  testimony,  as  it  deems  necessary.  Subpenas  may  be  issued  under 
the  signature  of  the  chairman  of  the  committee  or  any  subcommittee,  or  by  any 
member  designated  by  any  such  chairman,  and  may  be  served  by  any  person 
designated  by  any  such  chairman  or  member. 

******* 

Rule  XII 

LEGISLATIVE    OVERSIGHT    BY    STANDING    COMMITTEES 

Sec  136.  To  assist  the  Congress  in  appraising  the  administration  of  the  laws 
and  in  developing  such  amendments  or  related  legislation  as  it  may  deem  neces- 
sary, each  standing  committee  of  the  Senate  and  the  House  of  Representatives 
shall  exercise  continuous  watchfulness  of  the  execution  by  the  administrative 
agencies  concerned  of  any  laws,  the  subject  matter  of  which  is  within  the  jurisdic- 
tion of  such  committee;  and,  for  that  purpose,  shall  study  all  pertinent  reports 
and  data  submitted  to  the  Congress  by  the  agencies  in  the  executive  branch  of 
the  Government. 


RULES  ADOPTED  BY  THE  85TH  CONGRESS 

House  Resolution  5,  January  3,  1957 

*  *  *  *  *  ^ 

Rule  X 

STANDING    COMMITTEES 

1.  There  shall  be  elected  by  the  House,  at  the  commencement  of  eacn  Con- 
gress, 

******* 
(q)   Committee  on  Un-American  Activities,  to  consist  of  nine  Members. 

******* 

Rule  XI 

POWERS    AND    duties    OF    COMMITTEES 

******* 

17.   Committee  on  Un-American  Activities. 

(a)  Un-American  activities. 

(b)  The  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities,  as  a  whole  or  by  subcommittee, 
is  authorized  to  make  from  time  to  time  investigations  of  (1)  the  extent,  char- 
acter, and  objects  of  un-American  propaganda  activities  in  the  United  States, 
(2)  the  diffusion  within  the  United  States  of  subversive  and  un-American  prop- 
aganda that  is  instigated  from  foreign  countries  or  of  a  domestic  origin  and 
attacks  the  principle  of  the  form  of  government  as  guaranteed  by  our  Constitu- 
tion, and  (3)  all  other  questions  in  relation  thereto  that  would  aid  Congress 
in  any  necessary  remedial  legislation. 

The  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  shall  report  to  the  House  (or  to  the 
Clerk  of  the  House  if  the  House  is  not  in  session)  the  results  of  anj'  such  investi- 
gation, together  with  sucli  recommendations  as  it  deems  advisable. 

For  the  purpose  of  any  such  investigation,  the  Committee  on  Un-American 
Activities,  or  any  subcommittee  thereof,  is  authorized  to  sit  and  act  at  such  times 
and  places  within  the  United  States,  whether  or  not  tlie  House  is  sitting,  has 
recessed,  or  has  adjourned,  to  hold  such  hearings,  to  require  the  attendance 
of  such  witnesses  and  the  production  of  such  books,  papers,  and  documents,  and 
to  take  such  testimony,  as  it  deems  necessary.  Subpenas  ma}'  be  issued  under 
the  signature  of  tlie  cliairman  of  the  committee  or  any  subcommittee,  or  by  any 
member  designated  by  any  such  chairman,  and  may  be  served  by  any  person 
designated  by  any  such  chairman  or  member. 

*  *  *  *  *  *  * 

20.  To  assist  the  House  in  appraising  the  administration  of  the  laws  and  in 
developing  such  amendments  or  related  legislation  as  it  may  deem  necessary, 
each  standing  committee  of  tlie  House  shall  exercise  continuous  watchfulness 
of  the  execution  by  the  administrative  agencies  concerned  of  any  laws,  the  subject 
matter  of  which  is  within  the  jurisdiction  of  such  committee;  and,  for  that 
purpose,  shall  study  all  pertinent  reports  and  data  submitted  to  the  House  by 
the  agencies  in  the  executive  branch  of  the  Government. 


SYNOPSIS 


Public  hearings  weie  held  in  Boston,  Mass.,  March  18-21,  195H. 
during  which  the  committee  received  valuable  testimony  concerning 
current  Communist  Party  activities  in  the  New  England  area. 

Armando  Penha,  an  undercover  operative  for  the  FBI  from 
1950  to  the  date  of  his  appearance,  testified  extensively  concerning 
the  inner  workings  of  the  higher  echelon  of  the  Communist  con- 
spiracy. Mr.  Penha  had  held  the  positions  of  section  organizer  for  the 
Communist  Party  in  the  New  Bedford  area ;  chairman  of  the  Bristol 
County,  Mass.,  Communist  Party;  chairman  of  the  Regional  Section 
Organizers  Committee;  member  of  New  England  District  Commit- 
tee; member  from  New  England  of  the  National  Textile  Commission; 
and  attended  meetings  of  the  New  England  District  Metals  Commis- 
sion of  the  Communist  Party. 

Assessing  the  seriousness  of  the  Communist  Party  today,  Mr.  Penha 
declared : 

Based  on  my  experiences,  I  feel — and  I  am  sure  that  I  am 
absolutely  correct — that  the  Communist  conspiracy,  by  and 
large  today,  is  much  stronger  than  it  has  ever  been.  *  *  * 
The  party  has  strengthened  itself  every  time  that  it  weeds  out 
weaklings,  those  that  they  suspect,  those  who  do  not  accept 
the  party  discipline,  and  as  such  it  becomes  stronger. 

During  the  8  years  that  he  was  in  the  Communist  Party,  Mr.  Penha 
had  known  approximately  400  members  of  the  party.  Of  this  number, 
between  285  and  315  operated  in  the  New  England  area.  In  the  course 
of  his  testimony,  Penha  identified  by  name  over  200  Communist  Partj 
members  he  had  personally  known,  including  top-flight  functionaries, 
of  the  National  Committee  of  the  Communist  Party. 

In  connection  with  the  current  organizational  structure  of  the  party, 
he  testified : 

The  Communist  apparatus  is  established  Avith  the  National 
Committee  as  being  the  top  functionary  body. 

In  the  National  Committee  level,  there  are  also  various 
types  of  national  groups.  You  have  your  National  Executive 
Committee,  you  have  National  Commissions,  various  depart- 
ments. In  all  I  would  say  there  are  about  8  or  9.  From  there 
it  drops  down  to  the  district  level,  New  England  being  the 
District  No.  1.  Ncav  England  encompasses  the  areas  of  Ver- 
mont, Maine,  New  Hampshire,  Massachusetts. 

From  the  district  level,  it  drops  down  to  county  level  if 
they  exist.  At  times  they  do  not.  From  there  it  drops  down 
to  section  levels,  known  as  cities  and  its  suburban  areas. 
From  there  it  drops  down  to  clubs  or  cells.  These  are  small 
groups.     They  comprise  membership  in  specific  areas,  par- 

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ticularly  in  organizations.  From  that  it  drops  down  to 
neighborhood  groups  or  neighborhood  clubs.  From  that  it 
goes  into  individuals  who,  for  one  reason  or  another,  should 
not  be  placed  in  clubs  and/or  cells. 

Mr.  Penha  testified  that  the  revenue  of  the  Communist  Party  is 
derived  from  many  and  varied  sources,  including : 

(a)  Dues  based  on  earnings. 

(b)  Assessments,  also  based  on  earnings. 

(c)  Financial  "angels"  who  may  or  may  not  be  actual  party 
members,  but  who  contribute  to  the  party  causes.  Penha  cited 
as  an  example  one  Maud  D'haze,  deceased,  who  left  an  estate  of 
approximately  $20,000.  This  estate  was  not  left  to  the  Communist 
Party  per  se,  but  to  the  leaders  of  the  Communist  Party  in  the 
New  England  area,  with  the  understanding  that  the  money  would 
be  directed  ultimately  into  the  coffers  of  the  Communist  Party. 
Penha  identified  D'haze  and  all  of  the  beneficiaries  as  members 
of  the  Communist  Party.  Two  of  the  beneficiaries,  Anne  Burlak 
Timpson  and  Otis  Archer  Hood,  both  leaders  of  the  Communist 
Party  in  New  England,  were  called  as  witnesses  and  interrogated 
concerning  the  distribution  of  the  D'haze  estate.  Both  invoked 
their  constitutional  privileges  against  self-incrimination. 

(d)  Sale  of  various  items.  Penha  cited  as  an  example  the 
sale  of  pen  and  pencil  sets,  1,000  of  which  were  sold  by  comrades 
within  the  New  England  district,  with  the  proceeds  directed  into 
the  party  treasury. 

(e)  Solicitation  of  funds  through  front  groups  which  are  cre- 
ated, or  infiltrated  and  controlled,  by  the  party,  but  which  bear 
no  open  association  with  the  party.  Such  funds  ultimately  are 
lodged  in  the  party  treasury. 

(/)  From  labor  organizations  controlled  by  the  Communist 
Party.  Cited  as  an  example  was  the  United  Electrical,  Radio  & 
Machine  Workers  in  the  New  Bedford  area. 

The  National  Textile  Commission  of  the  Communist  Party,  of  which 
Mr.  Penha  was  a  member,  was  established  by  the  National  Committee 
of  the  Communist  Party  in  1955.  The  purpose  of  the  Textile  Commis- 
sion was  to  direct  further  colonization  and  infiltration  by  the  Commu- 
nist Party  into  the  textile  industry,  particularly  in  the  South.  The 
North  was  to  contribute  experienced  colonizers  and  money.  In  connec- 
tion with  this  endeavor,  Mr.  Penha  took  a  trip  to  the  South  where  he 
was  in  contact  with  top  Communist  Party  leaders  and  colonizers,  par- 
ticularly in  North  Carolina,  a  center  of  the  textile  industry  in  the 
South.  The  technique  of  colonization,  according  to  Mr.  Penha,  is  being 
applied  by  the  party  in  all  types  of  major  industry. 

Mr.  Penha  who  was  in  active  contact  with  the  Communist  under- 
ground described  the  stringent  security  measures  exercised  in  the  un- 
derground operation.  Some  members  completely  divorced  themselves 
from  the  open  apparatus  of  the  party  and,  in  most  instances,  com- 
pletely separated  themselves  from  their  families.  They  assumed  false 
identities  and  used  various  devices  to  alter  their  physical  appearance. 
They  lived  in  the  homes  of  trusted  party  members  and  all  contact  with 
the  open  apparatus  was  handled  through  couriers. 

Mr.  Penha  furnished  the  committee  a  detailed  summary  of  the  Com- 
munist Party  front  groups  which  had  formerly  operated,  or  were  cur- 
rently operating,  in  the  New  England  area.    He  identified  a  number 


COMMUNIST   ACTIVITIES   IN   THE    NEW    ENGLAND    AREA    2083 

of  members  of  the  front  groups  as  Communists.  Some  of  the  groups 
named  as  Communist  fronts  by  Penha  were  the  New  England  Citizens 
Concerned  for  Peace,  the  New  Bedford  Peace  Committee,  the  New 
Bedford  Committee  to  Fight  Unemployment,  the  Progressive  Party, 
the  Labor  Youth  League,  Save  Our  Sons  Committee,  and  the  Ameri- 
can Committee  for  Protection  of  Foreign  Born. 

In  1952,  while  accompanying  the  New  England  district  Communist 
organizer,  Mike  Russo,  who  was  then  operating  in  the  background, 
Mr.  Penha  was  present  in  a  secret  meeting  with  Jonathan  and  David 
Lubell,  then  students  at  Harvard  University.  The  Lubells  were  Com- 
munist organizers  among  the  students  at  various  institutions  of  higher 
education  in  the  Boston  area.  They  turned  over  $150  which  they  had 
collected  in  dues  from  the  students  at  these  institutions. 

Another  person  who  contributed  materially  to  the  committee's  work 
in  Boston  was  Mrs.  Carol  Foster  of  Nashua,  N.  H.  Like  Mr.  Penha, 
Mrs.  Foster  had  been  an  undercover  operative  for  the  FBI.  She  had 
been  active  in  the  party  since  1947.  Her  principal  area  of  activity  was 
in  the  State  of  New  Hampshire.  She  had  held  the  office  of  secretary 
of  the  Nashua  group  of  the  Communist  Party  and  was  a  member  of 
the  New  Hampshire  State  Committee,  which  was  a  part  of  District 
1  of  the  Conununist  Party,  and  encompassed  most  of  New  England. 

Mrs.  Foster  confirmed  Mr.  Penha's  testimony  that  the  Communist 
Party  posed  a  serious  threat  to  our  country  today.  She  identified  sev- 
eral score  individuals  as  Communist  Party  members  in  the  New  Eng- 
land area. 

Two  of  the  persons  she  identified  as  members  of  the  Communist 
Party  were  Rev.  Albert  D'Orlando  and  his  wife,  Polly.  Mr.  D'Orlando 
had  been  a  minister  of  a  church  in  Wilton,  N.  H.,  from  approximately 
1946  to  1950.  Mrs.  Foster  testified  that  she  was  introduced  to  Mr. 
D'Orlando  by  the  Communist  Party  chairman  of  New  Hampshire, 
Mrs.  Elba  Chase  Nelson.  For  a  period  of  several  years  she  collected 
the  Communist  Party  dues  of  Mr.  D'Orlando  and  his  wife. 

The  Reverend  Mr.  D'Orlando,  who  now  resides  in  New  Orleans,  La., 
appeared  before  the  committee  in  executive  session  on  March  14, 1958. 
When  asked  about  his  previous  Communist  Party  membership,  he 
invoked  his  constitutional  privileges  concerning  the  period  prior  to 
1946.  He  denied  membership  subsequent  to  that  date,  but  testified  that 
he  had  contributed  money  to  the  Communist  Party  during  the  time 
he  was  a  minister  in  Wilton,  N.  H. 

Mrs.  Foster  also  furnished  valuable  information  concerning  the  op- 
eration of  Communist-front  groups,  particularly  the  Progressive 
Party  which,  during  its  period  of  operation  in  New  Hampshire,  was 
completely  controlled  by  the  Communist  Party. 

Irving  Fishman,  Deputy  Collector  of  Customs  at  the  Port  of  New 
York,  and  his  administrative  assistant.  Miss  Eleanor  Suske,  testified 
about  the  importation  and  dissemination  of  Communist  propaganda 
in  the  Boston  area.  Mr.  Fishman  stressed  the  need  for  amendments 
to  the  Foreign  Agents  Registration  Act  to  require  the  labeling  of  for- 
eign Communist  propaganda  prior  to  its  importation.  He  stated  that, 
based  on  a  survey  conducted  by  his  office  within  a  2-month  period  im- 
mediately prior  to  the  hearings,  there  were  approximately  80,000 
pieces  of  foreign  Communist  propaganda  passing  through  the  port  of 
New  York,  destined  for  the  New  England  area.    None  of  this  propa- 


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ganda  was  labeled  in  accordance  >Yith  the  provisions  of  the  Foreign 
Agents  Eegistration  Act. 

Additional  testimony  concerning  propaganda  on  the  domestic  level 
was  given  by  Mr.  Penha,  who  testified  that  the  Communist  Party  had 
secreted  mimeographing  machines  in  the  homes  of  trusted  Commu- 
nist Party  members.  These  machines  were  to  be  used  to  produce  prop- 
aganda material  in  the  event  the  party  was  forced  to  eliminate  its  open 
publications. 

Hon.  Louis  C.  W^'man,  Attorney  General  of  the  State  of  New  Hamp- 
shire, testified  extensively  concerning  various  sections  of  H.  R.  9987 
the  omnibus  security  bill  pending  before  the  committee. 

In  addition  to  the  persons  indicated  above  who  cooperated  with  thr« 
committee,  29  other  persons  were  called  as  witnesses.  These  persons 
had  been  identified  under  oath  as  members  of  the  Communist  Party 
and,  in  most  instances,  were  leaders  of  the  Communist  Party  in  the 
New  England  area.  Their  employment  covered  a  variety  of  occupa- 
tions and  professions.  Two  of  the  witnesses,  David  M.  Fein  and  Elias 
Snitzer,  were  professors  at  the  Lowell  Technological  Institute.  Mr. 
Fein  denied  current  Communist  Party  membership,  but  invoked  the 
privileges  of  the  fifth  amendment  concerning  prior  membership,  Mr. 
Snitzer  likewise  denied  current  Communist  Party  membership,  but 
refused  to  give  the  committee  any  information  when  questioned  con- 
cerning prior  membership  and  activities  in  the  Communist  Party. 

Douglas  Perry,  UE  organizer  in  the  New  England  area,  who 
had  been  identified  by  Mr.  Penha  as  a  hard-core  Communist  Party 
member,  invoked  constitutional  privileges  against  self-incrimination 
when  asked  concerning  the  validity  of  Penha's  testimony. 

Joseph  Sherman  and  Benning  Maskiewicz  testified  that  they  wer(i 

not  citizens  of  the  United  States  and  refused  to  state  whether  or  not 

I  they  were  members  of  the  Communist  Party.     ]Mr.  Maskiewicz  has 

,  been  a  resident  of  the  LTnited  States  for  46  years ;  INIr.  Sherman  for  30 

years.    The  subcommittee  recommended  that  both  cases  be  referred  to 

1  "the  Immigration  and  Naturalization  Service  for  possible  deportation. 

Of  the  remaining  witnesses,  all  invoked  the  fifth  amendmei^t,  with 
the  exception  of  three.  Two  of  these  admitted  Communist  Part}' 
membership,  and  the  third  refused  to  answer  any  questions  but  in- 
voked the  first  amendment. 

In  concluding  the  hearings  the  chairman  of  the  subcommittee  stated 
in  part  as  follows: 

In  the  few  days  that  we  have  been  here,  we  believe  we  have 
had  a  fair  sampling  of  several  phases  of  Communist  subver- 
sive operations,  especially  in  this  area. 

What  then  has  been  accomplished,  in  our  judgment,  as 
a  result  of  these  hearings?  These  are  some  of  the  accom- 
])lishments: 

In  the  first  place,  we  have  seen  repetition  here  in  the  Bos- 
ton, New  England  area,  of  a  pattern  of  Connnunist  activities 
and  techniques  wliich  verifies  and  confirms  the  very  same  pat- 
tern of  secret  and  habitually  deceitful  and  subvei'sive  activi- 
ties and  tactics  throughout  our  Nation. 

"We  also  have  brought  forth  reliable  evidence  proving  that 
there  is  in  this  highly  sensitive  and  important  industrial  area 
a  Communist  Party  activity  which  should  be  paid  more  atten- 


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tioii  by  the  public  officials,  both  municipal  and  statewide, 
in  cooperation  witli  the  Federal  officials. 

More  specifically,  there  has  been  developed  here  new  and 
convincing  evidence  regarding-  the  existing  loopholes  in  the 
Foreign  Agents  Registration  Act,  and  other  existing  legisla- 
tion, designed  to  identify  and  stem  the  flood  of  Communist 
propaganda  that  is  daily  reaching  the  shores  of  our  Nation 
from  Soviet  Russia,  and  from  other  people,  specifically  doing 
it  in  cooperation  with  the  Soviet  Communist  control  of  the 
Soviet  Republic  in  thiscold  war. 

And  we  wish  to  emphasize  that  this  Comnuinist  subversive 
activity  right  here  in  the  New  England  area  and  throughout 
our  Nation  is  part  of  the  cold  war — it  is  not  just  merely  prop- 
aganda— it  is  part  of  the  cold  war.  There  are  no  bullets 
being  fired,  but  it  is  w^ar  nevertheless. 

There  has  also  been  revealed  further  reliable  factual  Com- 
munist underground  strategy  and  tactics  penetrating  entirely 
legitimate  and  loyal  organizations,  church  groups,  labor 
groups,  youth  groups,  schools,  lodges,  and  public  offices. 

There  has  also  been  revealed  further  definite  information 
respecting  efforts  of  the  Communist  conspiracy  to  penetrate 
certain  vital  industries  by  way  of  colonizing  by  Communists, 
many  of  whom  hold  high  degrees  in  education,  bachelors  of 
science  and  engineers;  and  yet,  fulfilling  their  Communist 
Party  dedication,  they  take  menial  jobs,  at  far  less  salaries  in 
sensitive  industry  in  order  to  carry  out  Communist  Party  di- 
rectives, than  they  could  earn  at  the  profession  for  which 
they  are  especially  equipped  and  trained. 

We  will  take  back  to  Washington  for  consideration  by  the 
Congress  all  the  factual  material  here  gained  in  connection 
with  our  study  and  consideration  for  the  enactment  of 
legislation. 

There  is,  however,  a  collateral  result,  which  is  very  valuable 
and  continuing,  as  a  result  of  these  hearings,  which  I  believe 
will  have  a  salutary  and  important  effect  on  this  entire  geo- 
graphical area.  This  should  be  a  daily  reminder  for  you 
folks  who  have  the  pleasure,  privilege,  and  inspiration  of 
living  in  this  area,  of  the  continuous  Communist  Party  sub- 
versive threat,  both  day  and  night,  not  merely  as  a  philo- 
sophical concept,  but  as  a  menacing  dynamic  force  of  intrigue 
and  subversion,  operating  as  part  of  the  Soviet  cold  war 
against  the  American  way  of  life,  which  was,  in  fact,  born 
riffht  here  within  a  mile  of  this  building. 


INVESTIGATION  OF  COMMUNIST  ACTIVITIES  IN  THE 
NEW  ENGLAND  AREA— PART  1 


TUESDAY,  MARCH   18,   1958 

United  States  House  of  Representatives, 

Subcommittee  of  the 
Committee  on  Un-American  Activities, 

Boston^  Mass. 
public  hearing 

A  subcommittee  of  tlie  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  met, 
pursuant  to  call,  at  10 :  09  a.  m.  in  courtroom  No.  3,  the  United  States 
Courthouse  and  Post  Office  Building,  Boston,  Mass.,  Hon.  Morgan  M. 
Moulder  (chairman  of  the  subcommittee)  presiding. 

Committee  members  present :  Representatives  Morgan  M.  Moulder, 
of  Missouri;  Clyde  Doyle,  of  California;  Bernard  W.  Kearney,  of 
New  York;  and  Robert  J.  Mcintosh,  of  Michigan  (appearance  as 
noted) . 

Staff  members  present:  Richard  Arens,  staff  director;  George  C. 
Williams  and  Frank  Bonora,  investigators. 

(Committee  members  present:  Representatives  Moulder,  Doyle, 
and  Kearney.) 

Mr.  Moulder.  The  subcommittee  will  come  to  order. 

Let  the  record  show  that  pursuant  to  law  and  the  rules  of  the  Com- 
mittee on  Un-American  Activities,  Chairman  Francis  E.  Walter  has 
appointed  a  subcommittee  for  the  purpose  of  conducting  hearings 
here  in  Boston,  Mass.,  composed  of  Representative  Clyde  Doyle,  of 
California,  who  sits  on  my  left,  and  Representative  Bernard  W. 
Kearney,  of  New  York,  who  sits  on  my  right. 

Other  members  who  will  be  present  tomorrow  are  Representative 
Edwin  E.  Willis,  of  Louisiana,  and  Representative  Robert  J.  Mc- 
intosh, of  Michigan. 

I  am  Representative  Morgan  M.  Moulder,  acting  chairman  of  the 
subcommittee. 

At  this  point  there  will  be  inserted  in  the  record  the  resolution 
adopted  on  January  15,  1958,  by  the  Committee  on  Un-American 
Activities  authorizing  the  hearings. 

Let  there  also  be  inserted  in  the  record  at  this  point  the  order 
appointing  the  subcommittee. 

(The  documents  referred  to  follow:) 

Excerpt  Feom  the  Minutes  of  Januaby  15, 1958 

A  motion  was  made  by  Mr.  Scherer,  seconded  by  Mr.  Willis,  and  unanimously 
carried,  approving  and  authorizing  the  holding  of  hearings  in  Boston,  Mass., 
or  at  such  other  place  as  the  chairman  may  designate,  on  such  date  or  dates  as 
the  chairman  may  determine,  and  continuing  from  day  to  day,  time  to  time,  and 
place  to  place  until  the  hearings  are  completed,  and  the  conduct  of  investigations 

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deemed  reasonably  necessary  by  the  staff  in  preparation  therefor,  relating  to  the 
following  subjects  and  having  the  legislative  purposes  indicated : 
,     1.  The  extent,  character  and  objects  of  Communist  infiltration  and  Conunuuist 
Party  propaganda  activities  in  the  textile  and  other  basic  industries,  both  within 
and  without  the  Commonwealth  of  Massachusetts,  the  legislative  purposes  being : 
(a)   To  obtain  additional  information  for  use  by  the  committee  in  its  con- 
sideration of  section  16  of  H.  R.  9352,  relating  to  the  proposed  amendment  of 
section  4  of  the  Communist  Control  Act  of  1954,  prescribing  a  penalty  for 
knowingly  and  wilfully  becoming  or  remaining  a  member  of  the  Communist 
Party  with  knowledge  of  the  purposes  or  objectives  thereof ;  and 

(6)  To  obtain  additional  information,  adding  to  the  committee's  overall 
knowledge  on  the  subject  so  that  Congress  may  be  kept  informed  and  thus 
prepared  to  enact  remedial  legislation  in  the  national  defense,  and  for  in- 
ternal security,  when  and  if  the  exigencies  of  the  situation  require  it. 

2.  Execution  by  administrative  agencies  concerned  of  laws  requiring  the 
listing  of  printing  presses  and  machines  capable  of  being  used  to  produce  or 
publish  printed  matter  in  the  possession,  custody,  ownership,  or  control  of  the 
Communist  Party  or  Communist  fronts,  the  legislative  purpose  being  to  assist 
Congress  in  appraising  the  administration  of  title  50,  United  States  Code,  section 
786  (6),  and  in  developing  such  amendments  to  the  Internal  Security  Act  of 
1950  as  it  may  deem  necessary. 

3.  Communist  techniques  and  strategy  in  the  raising  of  funds  for  the  benefit 
of  the  Communist  Party,  the  legislative  purpose  being  to  determine  whether  a 
recommendation  should  be  made  tightening  the  laws  relating  to  tax  exemption 
which  labor  xmions  enjoy,  and  for  the  additional  reasons  set  forth  in  items  1  (a) 
and  (b)  of  this  resolution. 

4.  Entry  and  dissemination  in  the  Commonwealth  of  Massachusetts  of  foreign 
Communist  Party  propaganda,  the  legislative  purpose  being  to  determine  the 
necessity  for,  and  advisability  of,  amendments  to  the  Foreign  Agents  Registration 
Act  designed  more  effectively  to  counteract  the  Communist  schemes  and  devices 
now  used  in  avoiding  the  prohibitions  of  the  act. 

5.  The  extent,  character  and  objects  of  Communist  Party  underground  activi- 
ties within  the  Commonwealth  of  Massachusetts,  the  legislative  purposes  being 
set  forth  in  items  1(a)  and  (b)  of  this  resolution. 

6.  Execution  by  administrative  agencies  concerned,  of  laws  relating  to  de- 
portation of  aliens  who  are  members  of  the  Communist  Party,  the  legislative 
purpose  being  to  assist  Congress  in  appraising  the  administration  of  section  241 
(a)  (6)  of  tlie  Immigration  and  Nationality  Act  (66  Stat.  204-206),  and  in  de- 
veloping such  amendments  to  that  act  as  may  be  deemed  necessary. 

7.  Any  other  matter  within  the  jurisdiction  of  the  committee  which  it,  or 
any  subcommittee  thereof,  appointed  to  conduct  this  hearing,  may  designate. 


March  12,  1958. 
To :  Mr.  Richaru  Arens,  Staff  Director,  House  Committee  on  Un-American 
Activities: 
Pursuant  to  the  provisions  of  law  and  the  rules  of  this  committee,  I  hereby 
appoint  a  subcommittee  of  the  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities,  consisting 
of  Representative  Morgan  M.  Moulder,  as  chairman,  and  Representatives  Clyde 
Doyle,  Edwin  E.  Willis,  Bernard  W.  Kearney,  and  Robert  J.  Mcintosh,  as  as- 
sociate members,  to  conduct  hearings  in  Boston,  Mass.,  Tuesday  through  Friday, 
March  18,  19,  20,  and  21,  1958,  at  10  a.  m.,  on  subjects  under  investigation  by  the 
committee  and  take  such  testimony  on  said  days  or  succeeding  days,  as  it  may 
deem  necessary. 

Please  make  this  action  a  matter  of  committee  record. 

If  any  member  indicates  his  inability  to  serve,  please  notify  me. 

Given  under  my  hand  this  12th  day  of  March,  1958. 

Francis  E.  Walter,  Chairman, 
Committee  on  Un-American  Activities. 

Mr.  Moulder.  The  hearings,  which  begin  today  in  Boston,  are  in 
furtherance  of  the  powers  and  duties  of  tlie  committee  pursuant  to  the 
provisions  of  Public  Law  GOl  of  the  79th  Congress,  which  not  only 
establishes  the  broad  jurisdiction  of  this  committee,  but  mandates 
this  committee,  along  with  other  standing  committees  of  the  Congress, 
to  exercise  continuous  watchfulness  of  the  execution  by  the  administra- 


COMMTJlSniST    ACTIVITIES    IN    THE    NEW    ENGLAND    AREA     2089 

tive  agencies  concerned  of  any  laws,  the  subject  matter  of  which  is 
within  the  jurisdiction  of  the  committee. 

In  response  to  this  general  mandate,  the  Committee  on  Un-American 
Activities  is  constantly  checking  factual  information  which  will  assist 
it  in  appraising  the  operation  of  such  laws  as  the  Internal  Security 
Act  of  1950,  the  Foreign  Agents  Registration  Act,  the  Communist  Con- 
trol Act  of  1954,  and  various  criminal  statutes  pertaining  to  subver- 
sion. 

We  know  that  the  strategy  and  tactics  of  the  Communist  conspiracy 
in  the  United  States  are  constantly  changing  for  the  purpose  of  avoid- 
ing detection  and  in  an  attempt  to  beguile  the  American  people  and 
the  Government  respecting  its  true  nature.  To  cope  with  these 
changes  and  to  strengthen  our  security  laws,  a  number  of  legislative 
proposals  are  pending  before  the  committee. 

The  most  recent  and  comprehensive  proposal  is  in  the  form  of  an 
omnibus  security  bill,  H.  R.  9937,  which  Chairman  Walter  introduced, 
and  which  represents  the  most  comprehensive  effort  ever  made  to  deal 
with  the  many  legislative  problems  in  the  field  of  internal  security.  It 
is  the  hope  of  the  committee  that  factual  information  obtained  at  this 
hearing  will  be  of  assistance  in  the  consideration  and  appraisal  of  the 
numerous  provisions  of  this  bill. 

Wlien  investigating  Communists  and  Communist  activities,  this 
committee  frequently  has  been  met  with  numerous  false  and  un- 
founded charges  respecting  the  nature  of  our  work  and  our  objective. 
Such  charges  will  not  dissuade  us  from  our  duty.  We  seek  the  facts 
and  only  the  facts.  Insofar  as  it  is  within  the  power  of  this  com- 
mittee, as  a  part  of  the  United  States  Congress,  we  shall  obtain 
the  facts  and  we  shall  do  so  within  the  framework  of  carefully  pre- 
scribed procedures  of  justice  and  fair  play. 

The  work  of  this  committee  becomes  more  difficult  w^ith  each  pass- 
ing year  because  more  and  more  the  functions  of  the  Communist 
mechanism  operate  underground.  It  is  essential  and  important  to 
remember  that  the  effectiveness  of  the  Communist  operation  bears 
absolutely  no  relationship  to  tlie  size  of  the  Communist  Party  as 
a  formal  entity.  The  fanatic,  compact  hard-core  elite  which  today 
constitutes  the  backbone  of  the  Communist  operation  in  this  country 
is  a  greater  menace  than  ever  before. 

They  look  for  recessions  and  unemployment  in  every  city  so  they 
iiave  a  tangible  reception  to  their  poisonous  propaganda. 

It  must  also  be  borne  in  mind  that  the  Communist  operation,  both 
above  and  below  the  surface,  is  part  of  a  worldw^ide  conspiracy  backed 
by  all  of  the  material,  financial,  and  educational  resources  of  the 
Soviet  empire  which  is,  and  has  been  for  some  time,  at  war  with  the 
one  nation  which  stands  in  the  way  of  its  world  domination — the 
United  States  of  America. 

It  is  the  standing  rule  of  this  committee  that  any  person  identified 
as  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party  during  the  course  of  the  com- 
mittee hearings  will  be  given  an  early  opportunity  to  appear  before 
the  committee,  if  he  desires,  for  the  purpose  of  denying  or  explaining 
any  testimony  adversely  affecting  him.  It  is  also  the  policy  of  the 
committee  to  accord  any  witness  the  privilege  of  being  represented 
by  counsel ;  but  within  the  provisions  of  the  rules  of  this  committee, 
his  sole  and  exclusive  prerogative  is  to  advise  his  client. 


2090    coMMuisrrsT  AcrivmES  m  the  new  England  area 

I  would  remind  those  present  that  a  disturbance  of  any  kind  or  an 
audible  comment  during  the  hearing  will  not  be  tolerated.  This  is 
a  serious  proceeding  in  which  we  are  earnestly  trying  to  discharge 
an  important  and  arduous  duty  with  the  general  objective  of  main- 
taining the  security  of  this  great  Nation. 

The  rules  of  the  House  of  Kepresentatives  prohibit  the  taking  of 
pictures  and  broadcasting  of  any  type  during  the  course  of  the  hear- 
ing, and  we  expect  the  photographers  and  broadcasters  to  cooperate 
and  comply  with  this  rule. 

Are  you  ready  to  proceed,  Mr.  Counsel  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  Yes,  sir.  Are  you  ready  for  the  first  witness,  Mr. 
Chairman  ? 

Mr.  Moulder.  Yes. 

Mr.  Arens.  Mr.  Armando  Penha,  please  come  forward  and  remain 
standing  while  the  chairman  administers  an  oath  to  you. 

Mr.  Moulder.  Do  you  solemnly  swear  that  the  testimony  which 
you  are  about  to  give  before  this  subcommittee  of  the  Committee  on 
Un-American  Activities  will  be  the  truth,  the  whole  truth,  and  nothing 
but  the  truth,  so  help  you  God  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  I  do. 

Mr.  Moulder.  Please  have  a  seat. 

TESTIMONY  OP  ARMANDO  PENHA 

Mr.  Arens.  Please  identify  yourself,  sir,  by  name,  residence,  and 
occupation. 

Mr.  Peniia.  My  name  is  Armando  Penha.  I  live  at  22  Dover 
Street,  Fairhaven,  Mass.  I  am  an  inspector  at  Acushnet  Process  Co., 
at  present  on  leave  of  absence. 

Mr.  Arens.  Mr.  Penha,  are  you  now,  this  moment,  a  member  of  the 
Communist  Party? 

Mr.  Penha.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Are  you  ideologically  in  sympathy  with  the  Com- 
munist Party? 

Mr.  Penha.  Absolutely  not,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  When  did  you  join  the  Communist  Party? 

Mr.  Penha.  In  the  very  early  part  of  1950. 

Mr.  Arens.  And  during  all  that  time  you  have  been  a  member  of 
the  Communist  Party  at  the  behest  of  the  Federal  Bureau  of  Investi- 
gation ;  is  that  correct  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  That  is  correct,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  You  are  here  and  now  for  the  first  time  revealing  public 
information  which  you  have  acquired  as  an  undercover  agent  in  the 
Communist  Party;  is  that  correct? 

Mr.  Penha.  That  is  correct,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Now,  Mr.  Penha,  have  you  at  any  time  since  1950  been 
in  contact,  directly  or  indirectly,  with  any  agency  of  any  State  or  of 
the  Federal  Government  other  than  with  the  Federal  Bureau  of  In- 
vestigation and  with  the  House  Committee  on  Un-American 
Activities? 

Mr.  Penha.  No,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  You  have  over  the  course  of  the  last  several  months 
been  in  close  contact  with  the  House  Committee  on  Un-American 
Activities ;  is  that  correct  ? 


COMMUNIST   ACrrvmES    IN   THE    NEW    ENGLAND    AREA    2091 

Mr.  Penh  A.  That  is  correct,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Please  tell  us  the  circumstances  of  your  joining  the 
Communist  Party  and  precisely  when  you  joined  it. 

Mr.  Penha.  Yes,  sir.  Sometime  in  1949,  and  I  believe  prior  to  that, 
I  was  under  the  impression,  as  an  average  American,  that  there  was 
something  that  I  could  do  in  order  to  help  our  country  maintain  its 
freedom.  At  the  time  that  Herbert  Philbrick  became  known,  I  thought 
that  there  might  be  a  possibility  that  I  could  offer  my  services  to  the 
Government. 

At  a  later  date  another  undercover  agent.  Matt  Cvetic,  was  dis- 
closed and  more  or  less  coincided  with  the  fact  that  being  an  insur- 
ance salesman,  which  I  believe  was  his  occupation  at  one  time,  or 
connected  with  the  insurance  business,  and  where  I  was  in  the  in- 
surance business,  I  felt  then  that,  in  all  humility,  I  could  offer  my 
services  if  the  Federal  Bureau  of  Investigation  would  accept  me. 

Mr.  Arens.  Did  you  oiTer  your  services  to  the  Federal  Bureau  of 
Investigation  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Yes,  I  did. 

Mr.  Akens.  I  will  not  at  this  time,  Mr.  Penha,  dwell  upon  the_  de- 
tails of  your  admission  into  the  Communist  Party.  I  would  like  right 
now,  if  you  please,  sir,  for  you  to  tell  us  just  the  posts  or  offices  or 
positions  winch  you  have  held  within  the  Communist  Party  since  you 
joined  it  in  1950. 

Mr.  Penha.  Yes,  sir.  Some  of  the  positions  and  posts  that  I  held 
in  the  Communist  Party  have  been  that  of  section  organizer  for  the 
New  Bedford  area,  that  is,  the  head  Communist  for  that  area.  And 
I  have  also  been  chairman  of  the  Bristol  County  area  for  the  Com- 
munist Party,  which  comprises  the  cities  of  New  .Bedford,  Taunton, 
and  Fall  River  and  its  surrounding  towns. 

I  have  also  been  chairman  of  the  section  organizers,  Regional  Sec- 
tion Organizers,  I  should  say.  Committee,  which  was  a  committee  set 
up  for  the  purpose  of  giving  the  opportunity,  as  the  district  leadership 
stated,  to  increase  the  knowledge  and  in  the  future  to  become  district 
leaders. 

Among  other  positions  I  have  held  was  that  of  being  a  member  of 
the  New  England  District  Committee,  which  is  the  ranking  committee 
that  controls  the  Communist  apparatus  in  New  England. 

I  have  also  been  a  member  and  delegate  from  New  England  for  the 
Communist  Party  to  the  National  Textile  Commission  in  New  York 
City. 

Mr.  Arens.  Wliat  position  do  you  presently  hold  in  the  Communist 
Party? 

Mr.  Penha.  My  positions  at  the  present  are,  to  the  best  of  my  knowl- 
edge, district  committee  member,  National  Textile  Commission  mem- 
ber, and  section  organizer  for  New  Bedford. 

Mr.  Arens.  Now,  Mr.  Penha,  what  is  the  last  service  which  you 
have 

Mr.  Penha.  Mr.  Director,  may  I  just  insert  one  correction  there? 

Mr.  Arens.  If  you  please,  sir. 

Mr.  Penha.  My  name  is  rather  unusual.  I  know  that,  but  it  is 
pronounced  "Penya." 


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Mr.  Arens.  We  have  in  our  associations  with  yon,  as  you  know,  used 
another  name;  and  that  is  the  reason  why,  I  explain  now,  I  have  diffi- 
culty actually  addressing  you  by  your  right  name.     Isn't  that  correct? 

Mr.  Penha.  That  is  correct,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Tell  us  now  on  this  public  record  what  was  the  last 
service  which  you  performed  for  the  Communist  Party,  and  when — 
prior  to  your  appearance  here  just  a  few  moments  ago  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Well,  sir,  the  last  service  was  performed  this  past 
week,  about  three  days  ago ;  and  during  most  of  the  entire  week,  that 
service  was  as  head  of  the  party  apparatus  in  New  Bedford. 

I  was  approached  to  give  advice  and  obtain  consultation  from  me 
in  order  to  equip  themselves  as  to  how  they  should  conduct  them- 
selves before  this  committee. 

Mr.  Arens.  Could  you  give  us,  without  dwelling  too  long  on  it, 
just  a  word  as  to  the  technique  and  advice  that  j^ou,  as  a  leading  Com- 
munist in  this  area,  gave  the  other  comrades  as  to  how  they  were  to 
conduct  themselves  before  this  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities. 

Mr.  Penha.  Yes,  sir.  One  of  the  phases  of  my  consultations  and 
advice  given  to  the  comrades  was  supplying  them  with  copies  of  re- 
ports of  previous  hearings  in  other  areas  throughout  the  countrj^,  in 
order  to  acquaint  the  comrades  as  to  the  procedure,  the  line  of  ques- 
tioning, and  how  a  hostile  witness  answers  in  turn. 

Mr.  Arens.  May  I  insert  this  at  this  point,  if  you  please,  sir :  The 
instructions  which  you  have,  in  the  course  of  the  last  several  days, 
been  giving  the  other  comrades  as  to  how  they  are  to  conduct  them- 
selves before  this  committee  were  given  to  you  by  other  persons  in 
the  apparatus,  isn't  that  correct  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Yes. 

Mr.  Arens.  You  were  a  conduit  for  transmission  of  that  instruc- 
tion ? 

Mr.  Penha.  That  is  correct,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  We  will  get  into  that  more  a  little  later. 

Mr.  Kearney.  May  I  ask  a  question  here,  Mr.  Chairman  ? 

Mr.  Moulder.  Mr.  Kearney. 

Mr.  Kearney.  Those  persons  to  whom  you  gave  such  advice,  were 
they  all  members  of  the  party,  or  alleged  members  of  the  party,  who 
were  under  subpena  to  appear  here  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  They  were  members  of  the  Communist  Party  from 
the  New  Bedford  area  that  were  under  subpena,  yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Kearney.  How  many  individuals  were  there,  would  you  say? 

Mr.  Penha.  The  ones  that  I  contacted  were  three,  sir,  from  the 
New  Bedford  area.     I  will  correct  that,  sir,  if  I  may?     I  stated  that 
I  contactecl.     I  was  first  approached  by  one  of  them,  and  then  a  pre 
liminary  arrangement  was  made  to  contact  the  others. 

Mr.  xIrens.  We  expect  in  the  coui-se  of  the  day  to  interrogate  you 
on  a  number  of  items:  and  as  we  have  told  you  and  discussed  with 
you  privately,  there  are  a  number  of  items  that  we  do  not  at  this  time 
want  to  go  into  with  you  in  a  public  session  because  they  necessitate 
considerable  investigation. 

Mr.  Penha.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  I  should  like  at  this  time,  as  a  point  of  departure  in 
our  general  interrogation  of  you,  please,  sir,  to  ask  you  on  the  basis 
of  your  background  and  experience,  how  serious  is  the  Communist 
Party  menace  in  this  area  now  ? 


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Mr.  Peniia.  Well,  may  I  answer  this  way,  sir? 

In  answer  to  your  question  as  to  how  serious  the  Communist  Party 
menace  is  in  this  area,  I  would  like  to  answer  on  the  basis  of  not  only 
in  this  area  but  throughout  the  entire  United  States. 

Mr.  Akens.  Please  do  so. 

Mr.  Penha.  The  reason  for  that  is  because  of  my  experience  and 
having  been  in  various  areas  of  the  country,  and  I  feel  that  I  am 
better  equipped  to  put  it  on  a  larger  area  than  the  New  England  area. 

Based  on  my  experiences,  I  feel — and  I  am  sure  that  I  am  absolutely 
correct — that  the  Communist  conspiracy,  by  and  large  today,  is  much 
stronger  than  it  has  ever  been.  The  question  of  numbers,  as  to  how 
many  persons  are  members  of  the  Communist  Party,  the  party  in  some 
way  or  other  seemingly  likes  to  play  that  up — as  to  loss  of  member- 
ship and  so  forth  and  that  it  has  weakened.  Nevertheless,  that  is  not 
true.  The  party  has  strengthened  itself  e^ery  time  that  it  weeds  out 
weaklings,  those  that  they  suspect,  those  who  do  not  accept  the  party 
discipline,  and  as  such  it  becomes  stronger. 

By  and  large,  I  would  say,  organizationally  speaking,  I  do  not  know 
of  any  organization  in  the  world  that  can  equip  itself  and  state  that 
it  has  the  qualifications  of  the  Communist  Party  to  operate  organi- 
zationally. 

jNIr.  Arens.  Is  there  a  distinction  that  may  justifiably  be  made  be- 
tween a  Communist  and  a  technical  member  of  the  Communist  Party 
as  such? 

Mr.  Penha.  Would  you  please  repeat  that  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  Are  there  Communists  who  are  not  technical  members 
of  the  entity  known  as  the  Communist  Party  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Yes,  sir ;  there  are. 

Mr.  Arens.  Is  the  Communist  Party  a  political  party  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  The  Communist  Party  is  not  a  political  party  in  the 
sense  that  we  understand  here  in  the  United  States  the  two 
existing  political  parties.  It  is  a  conspiracy.  Its  objective  is  to  de- 
feat these  very  political  parties  that  exist,  along  with  other  aims. 

INIr.  Arens.  How  far  underground  is  the  Communist  Party  as  an 
entity  now? 

Mr.  Penha.  Unfortunately,  sir,  it  is  very  much  underground.  I 
would  say  it  is  deep  freeze.  They  do  use  some  members  on  the  open 
scale  for  propaganda  purposes. 

Mr.  Arens.  We  will  get  into  a  number  of  items  along  that  line  a 
little  later.  I  want  to  t^  sure  that  this  record  reflects  your  best  judg- 
ment, based  upon  this  intense  experience,  with  reference  to  this  concept 
of  the  activity  of  the  Communist  Party.  I  observed  you  used  the  word 
''deep  freeze."  You  do  not  mean  to  imply  that  the  party  is  dormant, 
do  you  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  No,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  The  party  is  very  active  right  now,  is  it  not? 

Mr.  Penha.  That  is  absolutely  correct. 

Mr.  Arens.  How  does  the  party  gain  its  strength?  By  what  de- 
vices, by  what  techniques  does  it  gain  its  potency  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  There  are  many  ways.  One  of  them  I  may  stress  at 
this  point  is  by  means  of  infiltration. 

Mr.  Arens.  What  do  you  mean  by  infiltration?  Give  us  just  a 
word  about  that,  sir. 


2094     CK)MMIJ]SriST   activities   in   the    new    ENGLAND    AREIA 

Mr.  Penha.  Well,  sir,  I  will  try  to  be  brief  on  that,  but  it  is  ex- 
tremely difficult  after  8  years  to  put  in  a  nutshell  just  what  infiltration 
is.  However,  I  would  say  that  infiltration  is  a  means  which  the  party 
uses  in  order  to  place  a  trusted  member  into  industry  or  an  organiza- 
tion for  the  purpose  of  serving  the  party's  interests.  In  doing  so,  this 
party  member  is  in  position  to  influence  the  mass  workers  of  that  par- 
ticular organization.     That  is  one  of  the  aspects. 

We  have  also  mass  agitation.  By  mass  agitation,  the  party  finds 
here  that  it  gives  them  an  experience  which  I  am  sure  that  our  exist- 
ing political  parties  would  not  care  to  use  because  they  would  not 
consider  themselves  political  parties;  and  that  is  one  way  to  agitate 
in  a  mass  form.  In  this  sense  they  do  it  on  the  basis  of  creating  an 
issue.  If  that  issue  is  one  that  can  serve  the  people  at  that  particular 
time,  all  well  and  good.  However,  as  time  goes  on,  if  the  party  sees 
that  that  issue  is  not  beneficial  to  the  party — in  other  words,  as  a 
result  of  the  party's  putting  its  efforts  into  coordinating  this  issue 
and  broadening  it  out  to  the  extent  that  it  adds  its  full  impact,  to 
the  extent  that  the  party  feels  that  they  have  to  gain  control  of  this 
organization,  they  have  to  influence  the  masses  involved  in  and  around 
this  organization,  they  will  attempt  also  to  influence  any  public  of- 
ficials, whether  it  is  local.  State  or  Federal  level.  And  mainly  it 
serves  as  a  basis — and  I  think  this  is  the  strongest  point  that  I  can 
raise — for  giving  a  comrade  the  experience  of  leading  masses,  know- 
ing, how  to  handle  situations,  and  above  all  it  becomes  a  test  for  him 
as  a  leader — accepting  party  discipline  and  also  in  indicating  to  the 
party  whether  or  not  he  has  absorbed  the  organizational  abilities 
that  the  party  has  attempted  to  convey  to  him. 

Mr.  Arens.  Is  there  any  doubt  in  your  mind,  based  upon  your 
background  and  experience,  but  that  the  Communist  apparatus  in 
the  United  States  represents  foreign  agents  of  the  Soviet  Union  on 
American  soil? 

Mr.  Penha.  There  is  no  doubt  at  all,  whatsoever  in  my  mind. 

If  I  may,  sir,  I  have  a  book  here  that  will  further  implement  not 
my  opinion  but  the  experiences  that  I  have  had  in  the  Communist 
Party.  In  the  Communist  Party  you  do  not  criticize  Russia.  This 
fallacy  of  the  Khrushchev  enunciation  on  Stalin,  of  criticizing  Russia, 
or  criticizing  some  of  its  leaders  or  Stalin,  is  just  another  one  of  its 
gimmicks.  It  is  another  method  of  Mr.  Khrushchev  hoj)ing  to  attain 
the  position  and  prestige  of  Mr.  Stalin. 

Now.  I  would  like  to  just  quote  from  a  book  that  in  the  past  the 
party  has  screened.  It  is  Leninist  works  and  Marxist  works 
or  something  that  is  more  or  less  general  and  it  is  Russian ;  it  is  not 
American.  They  may  use  parts  of  it,  and  so  forth,  which  is  not  true. 
However,  this  book,  Toward  Soviet  America — this  book  is  published 
or,  rather,  written  by  Mr.  Foster,  an  international  leader  in  the  Com- 
munist apparatus  and  national  leader  of  the  Communist  Party.  And 
I  believe  that  in  just  reading  a  few  lines  here,  it  will  indicate  that 
my  experiences  and  my  belief  that  the  Communist  Party,  U.  S.  A.,  is 
a  tool  of  the  Communist  International  bears  out. 

Mr.  Arens.  Was  that  book  given  to  you  as  part  of  your  indoctrina- 
tion as  a  Communist  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  This  book  was  not,  for  one  simple  reason :  They  could 
not  get  it  at  the  time  and  they  in  turn  instructed  me  to  see  if  I  could 
get  it  elsewhere,  which  I  was  very  fortunate  in  obtaining. 


COMMUNTST   ACnVrTTES    IN    THE    NEW    EOSTGLAND    AREA    2095 

Mr.  Arens.  We  expect  to  develop  this  issue  a  little  later  on  this 
afternoon.  I  would  suggest  that  you  might  just  summarize  the  quo- 
tations there  unless  they  are  rather  brief. 

Mr.  Penha.  They  are  brief,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Kindly  allude  to  them,  please,  sir. 

Mr.  Doyle.  May  I  inquire  ^ 

Mr.  Moulder.  Mr.  Doyle  is  recognized. 

Mr.  Doyle.  Wlien  and  where  was  the  book  published  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  This  book  was  published  in  the  United  States  I  believe 
in  1932. 

Mr.  Doyle.  Does  it  show  in  what  city  and  by  what  publishing 
company  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  It  says  here,  "Printed  for  International  Publishers  by 
Coward-McCann,  Inc.,  New  York." 

Mr.  Doyle.  Thank  you. 

Mr.  Moulder.  Mr.  Kearney  ? 

Mr.  I^arney.  This  is  William  Z.  Foster  you  are  talking  about  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Kearney.  Wasn't  he  one  of  the  12  Communists  who  were  in- 
dicted in  the  city  of  New  York  several  years  ago  but  was  too  ill  to  be 
tried? 

Mr.  Penha.  Well,  sir,  it  is  sort  of  a  farce  to  say  that  he  was  too  ill. 
It  was  true  that  he  did  have  a  heart  ailment.  However,  he  was  not 
too  sick  to  write  many  books,  many  articles,  and  take  a  very  active 
part  in  leading  the  Communist  conspiracy  in  this  country. 

Mr.  Kearney.  He  is  still  well  enough  to  be  traveling  around  the 
country,  preaching  the  doctrine  of  the  Communist  conspiracy  today, 
isn't  he? 

Mr.  Penha.  That  is  correct,  sir.  There  again  is  one  of  the  tactics 
of  the  Communist  Party. 

Mr.  Arens.  While  you  are  looking  for  that  quotation,  may  I  ask 
you  this  question :  Is  the  objective  of  the  Communist  apparatus  in  the 
United  States  conversion  of  the  masses  to  communism  or  is  it,  on  the 
other  hand,  conquest  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  By  and  large  the  Communist  Party  Imows — and  I  am 
speaking  from  experiences  as  resulted  from  top  meetings  that  have 
been  told  to  me — that  the  Communist  Party  will  never  at  any  given 
moment  be  able  to  convert  the  American  public  at  large.  They  rea- 
lize that.  The  only  way  is  to  make  use  of  the  tools  that  Lenin  has 
handed  down,  mainly  force  and  violence. 

Mr.  Kearney.  Doesn't  Foster  in  his  writings  advocate  force  and 
violence  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Yes ;  he  does,  sir. 

Mr.  Kearney.  Didn't  he  say,  whether  it  is  in  your  book  or  not,  that 
when  the  time  came  in  this  country  the  Communist  Party  would  be 
backed  by  the  force  of  the  Red  Army  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  That  is  correct,  sir.  He  also  states  in  this  book  that 
courts,  lawyers,  all  types  of  legal  apparatus  that  we  have  in  our 
democratic  system  today  will  be  abolished  completely. 

Mr.  Kearney.  So,  in  other  words,  it  is  well  for  the  American  public 
to  know  today  this  is  no  game  we  are  playing  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  The  thing  I  have  to  say  in  regard  to  that,^  sir,  is  that 
unfortunately  there  is  too  much  complacency  in  the  American  public. 


2096     COMMUNTST    ACTIVITTES    ITST    THE    NEW    EXGL.\ND    AREA 

It  is  only  when  the  house  is  on  fire  that  they  seem  to  be  worried  about 
what  is  going  on, 

Mr.  Kearney.  Isn't  Foster  today  the  leader  of  the  Soviet  faction  of 
the  Communist  Party  in  this  country  '^ 

Mr.  Penha.  Sir,  that  is  a  very  good  question.  He  very  definitely  is ; 
and  a  result  of  it  is  the  fact  that  Jolin  Gates,  who  had  been  in  prison, 
who  liad  suffered  as  a  Communist  for  the  Communist  cause,  when 
he  came  out  he  took  advantage  of  the  Khrushchev  denunciation  and, 
as  a  result  of  that,  he  felt  that  there  might  be  a  possibility  of  estab- 
lishing communism  as  Tito  did  in  Yugoslavia.  However,  Mr.  Fos- 
ter saw  fit  not  only  to  win  the  battle  as  he  did,  but  to  weed  Johnny 
Gates  out  to  the  extent  of  putting  the  Daily  Worker  out  of  business, 
so  that  at  a  later  time  it  will  come  into  business  as  a  tool  and  under 
the  discipline  of  Mr.  Foster  and  the  Communist  Party. 

Mr.  Kearney.  Would  I  be  correct  in  bringing  to  the  attention  of 
the  public  of  America  this  thought,  that  William  Z.  Foster  is  no 
more  concerned  with  things  representing  America  than,  we  will  say 
for  argument's  sake,  this  committee  is  with  what  the  Communist 
Party  believes  in  and  its  philosophy  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Would  you  repeat  that,  sir? 

INIr.  Kearney.  In  other  words,  let  me  put  it  this  way : 

Foster  today,  and  for  many  years  last  past — ever  since  he  joined 
the  Communist  Party,  the  Communist  conspiracy,  whatever  you  want' 
to  call  it,  with  all  his  double  talk — no  more  believes  in  things  Ameri- 
can and  the  American  way  of  life  than  we  do  in  the  Communist 
philosophy. 

]Mr.  Penha.  That  is  absolutely  correct,  sir,  not  only  ]\Ir,  Foster, 
but  I  would  say  all  Communists  that  are  hard-core  members.  They 
are  not  Americans.    They  are  Communists. 

Mr.  Arens.  Now,  sir,  would  you  kindly  allude  to  the  quotation  to 
which  you  referred  ^ 

Mr.  Penha,  Yes,  sir.     Thank  you,  sir.     And  I  quote : 

The  Communist  Party  of  the  United  States,  in  line  with  its  program  of 
class  strnjrgle,  unites  with  the  revolutionary  workers  of  the  world.  It  is  the 
American  section  of  the  Comiiumist  International.  The  Communist  Inter- 
national carries  out  a  united  revolutionary  policy  on  a  world  scale  with 
the  necessary  adaptations  for  the  special  conditions  in  the  various  countries. 
The  Coniniunist  International  is  a  disciplined  world  party;  only  such  a  party 
can  defeat  world  imperialism.  Its  leading  party,  by  virtue  of  its  great  revo- 
lutionary experience,  is  the  Russian  Communist  Party. 

I  don't  want  to  indulge  any  further  because  there  is  too  much  to 
go  on. 

Mr.  Doyle.  On  what  page  in  the  book  is  that,  please  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Pages  258  and  250,  sir. 

Mr.  Doyle.  Thank  you. 

Mr.  Arens.  We  will  in  the  course  of  the  day  have  a  great  number 
of  specific  questions  on  various  facets  of  the  conspiratorial  opera- 
tions in  this  area  known  to  you. 

I  should  like  to  ask  2  or  3  more  general  questions  before  we  pro- 
ceed in  the  exploration  of  these  many  facets. 

First  is  this :  In  the  course  of  your  experience  in  the  Communist 
Party  up  to  today,  what  percentage  of  the  comrades  in  this  area 
did  you  come  to  know  in  view  of  the  security  system  that  they  had  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  I  will  say,  if  I  understand  your  question  correctly,  sir, 
it  is  pertaining  to  the  New  England  area? 


COMMTlSrilST    ACT'IVITIEiS    EST    THE    NEW    EIsTGLAJSTD    AREA     2097 

Mr.  Arens.  Yes,  sir.  In  the  New  England  area,  about  what  per- 
centage of  the  comrades  in  this  area  did  you  become  acquainted  with  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Over  a  period  of  8  years,  I  would  say  that  I  came  in 
contact  with  approximately  60  to  65  percent  of  its  membership. 
That,  in  terms  of  numbers ■ 

Mr.  Moulder.  May  I  interrupt  to  ask :  Did  you  cover  the  witness' 

background,  where  he  was  born 

•     Mr.  Arens.  We  expect  to  get  into  that  in  just  a  few  moments. 

Mr.  Moulder.  Thank  you. 

Mr.  Penha.  I  would  like  to  put  it  this  way,  sir,  if  I  may,  sir :  During 
the  8  years  that  I  was  in  the  party,  to  the  best  of  my  recollection,  I 
have  known  approximately  400  Communists. 

Mr.  Arens.  In  the  New  England  area  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  In  the  New  England  area  I  would  say  it  would  be 
somewhere  between  285  to  315. 

JMr.  Arens.  Now  for  the  comrades  w^iom  you  knew,  what  is  your 
best  judgment  as  to  the  percentage  they  represented  of  the  total 
apparatus  in  the  New  England  area  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  I  would  like  to  put  it  this  way  if  I  may,  sir.  Every 
section  or  practically  every  section  in  New  England,  and  that  section — 
by  that  I  mean  city  and  its  surrounding  areas — had  a  section  com- 
mittee along  with  a  section  organizer,  who  is  the  head.  In  the  case 
of  New  Bedford,  when  I  first  joined  the  party  and  when  I  first 
became  a  member  of  the  Section  Committee,  as  I  recall,  I  believe  there 
were  approximately  7  or  8  members  in  the  section  committee.  That 
represents,  I  would  say,  very  accurately,  10  members  for  each  member 
in  that  committee;  and  tliat  holds  true  for  New  England. 

Mr.  Arens.  Then  is  it  true,  if  I  interpret  your  testimony  correctly, 
that  for  each  person  whom  you  know  in  the  echelon  within  the  Com- 
munist Party  in  which  you  circulated,  there  were  approximately  10 
other  comrades  in  some  other  phase  of  the  Communist  Party 
apparatus  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  That  is  correct,  sir. 

Mr.  Moulder.  For  each  member  that  you  knew  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Not  for  each  member  that  I  knew,  because  I  did  know 
many  rank  and  file,  too.  I  would  say  for  each  committee  that  I  have 
known  throughout  the  areas  which  I  have  known,  I  would  say  that 
for  each  1  that  I  knew  as  a  member  of  that  committee-  there  were  10 
Communists  that  he  represented,  directly  or  indirectly. 

Mr.  Doyle.  May  I  ask  how^  many  committees  you  knew  ?  You  have 
stated  that  there  wxre  7  or  8  members  in  each  section  in  each  city. 
But  how  many  committees  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  May  I  correct  that  statement,  sir  ? 

Mr.  Doyle.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Penha.  I  stated  when  I  first  came  into  the  party  and  I  was 
first  elevated  in  New  Bedford  to  the  Section  Coinmittee,  there  were 
either  7  or  8  members  of  that  committee,  I  stated,  in  New  Bedford. 
In  some  areas  it  does  not  apply,  the  same  numbers. 

Mr.  Doyle.  Now,  may  I  make  my  question  clear  ?  How  many  cities 
or  sections,  to  your  knowledge  as  of  now,  have  city  committees,  section 
committees,  in  New  England? 

Mr.  Penha.  Well,  sir,  I  would  say  from  my  experiences  and  recol- 
lection, aside  from  New  Bedford  you  also  have  Fall  River ;  you  have 


2098     OOMMUNTST    ACTIVITIES    EST    THE    NEW    ENGLAND    AREA 

Providence,  R.  I.;  you  have  Sprino^field ;  you  have  Lawrence;  and 
you  have  various  committees  throughout  greater  Boston,  Dorchester, 
and  Rochester  and  so  forth  in  Boston. 

Mr.  Doyle.  Thank  you  very  much. 

Mr.  Moulder.  May  I  suggest  that  the  loudspeaking  arrangement 
be  turned  lower  or  disconnected;  we  might  hear  the  witness  better 
without  it  than  with  it. 

Mr.  Arens.  Could  you  turn  it  down  a  little,  please  ? 

Now,  sir,  we  have  talked  in  general  terms  about  the  over-all  ap- 
paratus. I  have  just  1  or  2  more  questions  and  then  I  want  to  get  into 
your  own  personal  life,  if  you  please,  sir. 

You  told  us  about  the  potency  of  the  Communist  apparatus,  some- 
thing of  the  actual  Communist  agents  at  nerve  centers  in  this  society 
here  in  New  England.  Can  you  tell  us  the  ratio,  on  the  basis  of 
your  background  and  experience,  of  hard-core  Communists  to  those 
who  are  under  Communist  discipline  or  who  contribute  to  the  work 
of  the  apparatus  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Sir,  that  is  a  question  well  put.  I  think  it  is  a  very 
pertinent  one.  You  will  find  that  approximately  40  to  60  percent  of 
its  membership  are  secret  members,  hard-core  members,  that  are  in- 
filtrated in  various  organizations,  industry,  fraternal  organizations, 
and  the  like.  This,  of  course,  does  not  mean  that  this  remaining 
portion  are  not  hard  core,  but  they  are  in  other  levels. 

Mr.  Arens.  Is  there  any  way  you  could  appraise  for  us,  based  upon 
your  experience  in  the  Communist  Party,  the  numbers  who  are  not 
actually  within  the  apparatus  consciously  but  who  serve  the  work, 
purpose,  and  objective  of  the  apparatus  under  the  stimulus  of  the 
apparatus  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Sir,  may  I  ask  you  this :  Do  I  assume 

Mr.  Moulder.  May  I  interrupt,  Mr.  Arens  ?  Would  you  also  add : 
"And  also  for  the  purpose  of  what  they  refer  to  as  following  a  just 
and  righteous  cause,  in  many  instances"  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  Yes,  sir,  if  you  please. 

Mr.  Penha.  That  will  be  a  loaded  question.  Sir,  may  I  ask,  first, 
I  believe  you  are  making  reference  to  Communist  sympathizers  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Penha.  I  would  say  this  very  strongly — and  this  does  not 
apply  only  to  New  England — that  for  every  member  of  the  Commu- 
nist Party  there  exists  a  minimum  of  10  sympathizers  who,  in  turn, 
can  branch  out  and  influence  other  people. 

Mr.  Arens.  Now,  I  should  like,  with  this  general  series  of  ques- 
tions, if  you  please,  sir,  to  let  the  record  now  reflect  something  of 
your  own  personal  background  and  experience  and  also  a  word  about 
your  own  tribulations  as  a  Christian  gentleman  within  this  Godless 
apparatus. 

Mr.  Penha.  Thank  you,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Tell  us  where  you  were  born,  when,  and  a  little  of  your 
educational  background  and  the  principal  employments  which  you 
have  had,  a  little  about  your  family,  and  the  like;  and  then  we  will 
proceed  into  the  details  of  the  conspiracy  in  this  area. 

Mr.  Penha.  Yes,  sir. 

I  was  born  in  New  Bedford,  Mass.,  June  5,  1920.  In  1932  I  went, 
together  with  my  parents,  to  Portugal,  and  I  remained  there  until 
1940.    I  came  back  to  this  country  at  that  time.    Shortly  thereafter, 


COMMUNIST   ACnvmEiS   IN    THE    NEW    ENGLAND    AREA    2099 

I  was  employed  for  the  United  States  Government  as  a  censor  and 
translator  for  the  Office  of  Censorship  in  New  York  City. 

In  1942  I  went  into  the  service  and,  subsequently,  after  that,  I  was 
called  into  the  military  intelligence  and  became  a  member  of  it  for 
approximately  32  months. 

Wlien  I  was  discharged  from  the  service,  I  was  employed  by  the 
John  Hancock  Life  Insurance  Co.  as  an  insurance  salesman. 

And  may  I  add  at  this  time  that,  as  a  result  of  becoming  a  member 
of  the  Communist  Party,  I  was  not  only  instructed  but  told  that  if 
1  wanted  to  progress,  if  I  was  to  become  a  good,  hard-core  Commmiist, 
1  would  have  to  leave  such  an  employment  and  get  into  the  industrial 
field.  I  did,  at  a  sacrifice  of  approximately  $45  to  $50  a  week.  I  first 
went  to  Simon  Supply  Co.  as  a  salesclerk.  Then  I  followed  into  Ace 
Cabinet  and,  subsequently,  to  Acushnet  Process  Co. 

Insofar  as  my  educational  background  is  concerned,  I  believe  it  is 
just  a  typical  average  American ;  high  school,  business  school,  and  a 
bachelor  of  laws  degree. 

Mr.  Arens.  Now,  sir,  tell  us  just  a  word,  if  you  please,  about  your 
family.    Are  you  a  family  man? 

Mr.  Penha.  I  am  a  familj'  man;' yes,  sir.  I  would  like  to  add  at 
this  point,  if  I  may — and  I  hope  that  the  gentlemen  of  the  connnittee 
will  bear  with  me  in  taking  a  few  minutes  in  explaining  this,  because 
I  think  it  is  highly  pertinent — and  that  is,  when  I  decided  to  join 
the  Communist  Party  after  approaching  the  FBI,  I  reported  this  to 
my  wife.  I  felt  it  was  my  duty;  that,  if  I  was  to  ever  succeed,  she 
would  have  to  share  in  the  outcome.  She  said,  "Yes."  And  I  would 
say  that  were  it  not  for  my  wife,  I  don't  think  I  would  have  ever 
succeeded  in  the  party.  She  has  gone  through  many  strenuous  and 
difficult  tasks  in  the  party,  entertaining  party  leaders,  secret  members, 
having  them  stay  in  my  home,  watching  the  children,  seeing  that  they 
would  not  say  anything  out  of  line,  and  many  other  things. 

Mr.  Arens.  And  could  I  impose  upon  your  personal  life  just  to 
this  extent,  not  from  the  standpoint  of  prying  but  from  the  stand- 
point of  making  the  record  clear :  Did  the  participation  by  yourself 
in  the  Communist  Party  in  any  way  interfere  with  your  normal  par- 
ticipation in  your  religious  convictions  and  in  your  religious  ob- 
servances ? 

Mr.  Penha,  It  certainly  did,  sir.  I  first  would  like  to  point  out 
that,  whether  anyone  present  is  a  Jew,  Protestant,  or  Catholic,  let  him 
remind  himself  that  the  fact  he  can  go  to  his  own  church  or  synagogue 
at  any  time  is  a  great  privilege.  I  didn't  realize  this  until  I  got  into 
the  party.  Sometimes  I  felt  I  may  have  had  a  headache  or  something, 
today  I  will  not  go  to  Mass.  Once  I  was  in  the  party  I  realized  the 
very  thing  that  I  wanted,  that  I  needed  to  be  close  to  me,  I  did  not 
have,  I  could  not  have. 

As  a  result  of  that,  in  the  8  years,  I  believe,  I  have  been  inside  of 
the  church  no  more  than  12  times,  in  various  areas  of  the  country, 
and  this  taking  the  best  of  measures. 

However,  I  would  like  to  point  out  at  this  time  that  although  I  do 
know  the  person  I  am  going  to  speak  about  is  a  very  humble  person, 
if  I  may  say  so,  and  would  not  like  to  have  me  mention  him,  but  he  has 
been  my  inspiration,  spiritual,  as  I  could  not  be  in  church.  Msgr. 
Walter  Furlong,  from  Newton,  has  given  me  the  greatest  guidance  and 


2100    cx)MMTiN"iST  ACTrv^rriES  m  the  new  England  akie'a 

assistance.  Were  it  not  for  him  I  do  not  believe  I  could  have  carried 
the  load  I  did. 

Mr.  Doyle.  May  I  ask  why  you  did  not  go  to  church  more  than  12 
times  in  8  years  ?  That  is  not  quite  clear  to  me.  After  you  joined  the 
party,  why  didn't  you  go?  What  did  the  party  have  to  do  with  it, 
if  anything  ?    They  didn't  control  where  you  went  to  church,  did  they  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Sir,  they  controlled  every  movement  of  life.  They  are 
atheists  by  nature,  and  if  you  go  to  church  they  want  to  know  why. 
Tliey  do  have  some  members  that  they  want  to  be  in  church  in  order 
to  infiltrate  the  various  organizations  within  the  church,  but,  as  a 
whole,  the  hard-core  Communists  don't  believe  in  it,  to  start  with. 
And  if  I  was  to  go  in  there  I  wouldn't  be  here  today,  I  am  sure. 

Mr.  Doyle.  Well,  I  deliberately  asked  you  that  question  so  that  the 
record  would  be  more  clear  as  to  what  the  discipline  of  the  Communist 
Party  is  so  far  as  religion  is  concerned. 

Mr.  Penha.  It  was  very  strong,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  respectfully  suggest  that  we  might 
take  a  5-minute  recess. 

Mr.  Moulder.  The  committee  will  recess  for  a  period  of  5  minutes. 

(Bripf  recess.) 

Mr.  Moulder.  The  committee  will  be  in  order. 

(Committee  members  present:  Representatives  Moulder,  Doyle,  and 
Kearney.) 

Mr.  Moulder.  Mr.  Arens,  you  may  proceed  with  the  interrogation  of 
the  witness. 

Mr.  Arens.  Now,  sir,  would  you  kindly  tell  us  who  actually  re- 
cruited you  into  the  Communist  Party,  where,  and  within  what  entity 
of  the  Communist  Party  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  The  person  that  recruited  me  into  the  Conimunist 
Party  was  Joseph  Figueiredo.  At  that  time  he  was  a  section  organizer 
for  the  New  Bedford  area.    I  don't  recall  the  rest  of  your  question,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Wliat  section  or  what  entity  or  unit  or  cell  of  the  Com- 
munist Party  did  you  first  enter  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Well,  I  first  entered  a  group  which  the  section  organizer, 
Joseph  Figueiredo,  was  attempting  to  establish,  and  that  was  a  so- 
called  anti-Fascist  group.  It  was,  in  other  words,  a  group  that  was 
trying  to  make  a  wedge  into  the  minority  group  in  New  Bedford,  the 
Portuguese-speaking  people,  who  by  and  large,  I  would  say  99  percent, 
are  anti-Communist. 

Mr.  Arens.  Was  this  group,  notwithstanding  the  fact  that  99  per- 
cent were  anti-Communist,  was  it  controlled  by  the  conspiracy  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Sir,  when  I  said  99  percent  I  meant  the  entire  popula- 
tion of  Portuguese  extraction. 

Mr.  Arens.  I  understand. 

Mr.  Penha.  I  want  you  to  understand  that,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  I  understand.  Was  there  an  entity  or  organization  that 
you  entered  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  What  was  the  name  of  it  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  The  organization  that  I  entered — actually  it  was  two- 
fold. I  entered  one  without  being  a  member  of  it,  attending  some  of 
its  meetings  and  seeing  some  of  its  members,  and  this  one  was  known 
as  the  Alliance  Liberal  Portuguese  Club  (ALP). 

Mr.  Arens.  Did  you  enter  it  at  the  behest  of  the  Communist  Party  ? 


COMMTJlSrrST    ACTIVITIEiS    IN    THE    NEW    ENGLAND    AREA     2101 

Mr.  Penha,  I  did  not  enter  this  club  as  a  member.  I  entered  this 
club  in  order  to  get  acquainted  with  Communist  sympathizers  in  there 
and  to  assist  in  the  anti -Fascist  action.     The  club  that  I  entered 

Mr.  Moulder.  Was  it  a  discussion  group,  that  which  is  sometimes 
referred  to  by  the  Communists  as  a  discussion  group  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Yes,  sir.  I  think,  if  you  will  permit  me,  sir,  later  on 
1  can  go  into  that. 

Mr.  Moulder.  Proceed. 

Mr.  Penha.  The  club  that  I  did  enter  as  a  member,  as  a  written 
member,  was  the  Portuguese  Republican  Club  of  New  Bedford.  To 
show  you  the  power,  the  influence  of  the  Communist  Party,  in  rela- 
tively 2  months  as  a  member  I  became  its  secretary. 

Mr.  Arens.  That  w^as  because  you  were  pushed  by  trained  Com- 
munists ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Communist  sympathizers  in  this  club  and  ex-Commu- 
nists. 

Mr.  Arens.  Would  you  kindly  tell  us  the  first  cell  or  section  of  the 
Communist  Party  to  which  you  were  attached  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  I  was  attached  to  the  Section  Committee,  I  believe  ap- 
proximately in  July  or  August  of  1950. 

Mr.  Arens.  That  was  the  New  Bedford  Section  Committee? 

Mr.  Penha.  That  is  correct,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Now,  please,  tell  us  the  name  of  each  person  who  at  any 
time,  to  your  certain  knowledge,  was  a  member  of  the  New  Bedford 
Section  Committee  of  the  Communist  Party ;  and  I  have  admonished 
you,  as  you  know,  prior  to  your  appearance  today,  that  we  do  not 
want  you  to  identify,  or  to  suggest  identification  of,  any  person  on 
this  public  record  who  is  not  to  your  certain  knowledge,  based  upon 
attendance  by  you  in  closed  party  meetings  with  that  person,  a  mem- 
ber of  the  Communist  Party.     You  understand  that  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  All  right,  sir.  Now,  would  you  kindly  tell  us  the  name 
of  each  person  known  to  a  certainty  by  you,  because  of  attendance  by 
you  in  a  closed  Communist  cell  meeting  with  that  person,  as  a  member 
of  the  New  Bedford  Section  Committee. 

Mr.  Penha.  Sir,  if  I  may  first,  I  would  like  to  state  this 

Mr.  Arens.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Penha.  The  persons  that  I  have  stated  in  my  contacts  with 
you — and  which  I  hope  it  will  bear  out  here — are  persons  that  I  defi- 
nitely know^  as  Communists,  being  a  Communist  leader,  I  absolutely 
would  know  them. 

Mr.  xIrens.  Would  you  kindly,  then,  give  us  the  name  of  each  per- 
son in  the  New  Bedford  Section  Committee  known  by  you  to  be  a 
comrade  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  In  the  New  Bedford  Section  Committee? 

Mr.  Arens.  Would  you  excuse  an  interruption.  I  am  sorry.  After 
you  have  given  us  the  name  of  the  persons,  give  us  just  a  word  of 
characterization  or  description  of  that  person,  not  physically,  but 
from  the  standpoint  of  activity. 

Mr.  Penha.  Yes,  sir. 

I  should  start  with  Joseph  Figueiredo. 

Mr.  Arens.  And  a  word  about  him,  please,  sir. 

Mr.  Penha.  His  title  was  section  organizer  and  chairman  of  the 
Section  Committee.  He  was  responsible  for  the  entire  Communist 
apparatus  and  its  discipline  among  the  members  of  the  city. 


2102    coMivruNrsT  activities  in  the  new  England  area 

Mr.  Arens.  He  is  presently  in  California,  is  he  not? 

Mr.  Penha.  That  is  correct,  sir. 

Mr.  Moulder.  What  period  of  time  are  you  covering  now,  Mr. 
Arens  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  This  is  1950,  is  it  not  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  That  is  correct,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  All  right. 

Mr.  Penha.  The  second  member  that  I  would  like  to  bring  to  your 
attention,  sir,  is  Eulalia  Figueiredo. 

Mr.  Arens.  And  a  word  about  that  person.  Is  that  a  man  or 
woman,  by  the  way  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  She  is  a  woman.  Presently  she  is  in  Poland.  She 
was  deport^ed.  She  was  the  wife  of  Joseph  Figueiredo.  Her  activi- 
ties were  concentrated  more  so  on  imion  organizations  than  front 
organizations. 

The  next  person  is  Mary  Figueirido,  no  relation  whatsoever  to  the 
previously  identified  Figueiredos.  At  that  time  she  was  employed  at 
the  Fiske  Mills  in  New  Bedford.  The  Fiske  Mills,  of  course,  today 
are  not  operating.  But  she  was  at  that  time.  She  was  a  leading 
comrade  and  she  exerted  great  influence  not  only  among  the  stewards 
but  the  local  leadership,  and  that  was  her  primary  task, 

Mr.  Arens.  Wliat  union  was  that  ?  _  _ 

Mr.  Penha.  That  was  Mary  Figueirido  that  I  am  talking  about. 

Mr.  Arens.  AVhat  union  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  The  TWU A,  sir,  CIO. 

I  may  also  say  that  she  was  an  officer  for  several  years,  and  the  last 
time  she  was  instructed  not  to  become  an  officer  because  of  a  Taft- 
Hartley  oath  that  she  would  have  to  undertake. 

The  next  person,  at  that  time  her  name  was  Joy  Clark.  Today  she 
is  Joy  Clark  Figueiredo.  She  has  since  married  Joseph  Figueiredo. 
She  was  in  charge  of  press^  literature,  and  dues. 

Mr.  Arens.  May  I  inquire  whether  or  not  you  have  information 
respecting  any  underground  activities  of  Mary  Figueirido  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Yes,  I  have,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Give  us  a  word  of  description  on  that  and  we  will  get 
into  the  underground  operations  a  little  later,  but  just  a  word,  now, 
if  you  please,  about  Mary  Figueirido's  activity  miderground. 

Mr.  Penha.  Well,  one  of  her  key  activities  was,  of  course,  in  and 
around  the  mill  local.  She  was  very  instrumental  in  guiding  the  CIO 
leadership  during  her  time  of  leadership.  Subsequently,  after  that, 
in  the  early  fifties,  she  became  more  or  less  a  part  of  servicing  Commu- 
nist Party  sympathizers  and  members  in  their  homes;  and  as  such 
she  was  and  could  be  used  as  a  courier. 

Mr.  Arens.  Did  she  ever,  to  your  knowledge,  arrange  housing  facili- 
ties for  members  of  the  underground  in  transit  to  this  area  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Among  other  things  that  she  did  was  infiltration  of 
the  Clube  Alianca  Liberal  Portuguesa 

Mr.  Arens.  I  didn't  get  that. 

Mr.  Penha.  As  an  officer. 

Mr.  Arens.  She  became  an  officer  of 


Ml'.  Kearney.  What  was  the  name  of  the  club  ? 
Mr.  Penha.  The  Alliance  Liberal  Portuguese  Club  (ALP) . 
Another  was  arranging  places  of  meeting ;  these  were  secret  meet- 
ings for  the  underground  members. 


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I  may  say  that  in  each  and  every  one  I  could  go  in  quite  detail 
if  we  had  the  time. 

Mr.  Arens.  After  we  have  permitted  you  to  identify  people  known 
by  you  as  leading  comrades  in  each  of  these  several  entities,  we  expect 
to  get  into  the  pattern  of  operation,  the  underground,  and  the  like, 
so  I  will  not  ask  you  at  this  time  to  dwell  upon  that. 

Mr.  Penha.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Now,  if  you  please,  sir,  was  there  another  person  who 
was  known  by  you  to  be  a  comrade  in  the  New  Bedford  Section 
Committee  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  The  other  person  was  known  as  Nat  Shelman,  Nathaniel. 

Mr.  Arens.  And  a  word  about  him,  please,  sir. 

Mr.  Penha.  He  was  a  colonizer  sent  in  from  the  district  into  the 
New  Bedford  area. 

Mr.  Arens.  We  expect  to  get  into  the  subject  of  colonization  perhaps 
this  afternoon  with  you.  Could  you  tell  us  now  what  you  mean  by 
colonization  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  What  I  mean  by  a  colonizer  is  a  person  that  is  in- 
structed by  the  party  to  infiltrate  key  and  basic  industries,  labor  unions, 
and  organizations  to  serve  the  party's  interests. 

Mr.  Arens.  And  Nat  Shelman  was  to  your  certain  knowledge  a 
Communist  Party  colonizer  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Absolutely,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Do  you  have  the  name  of  another  person  who  to  your 
certain  knowledge  was  in  the  New  Bedford  Section  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  The  next  person  was  Andie  Shelman,  his  wife.  She 
was  also  a  colonizer. 

Would  you  give  me  the  number,  please,  that  I  have  given  to  that 
point,  so  I  won't  repeat  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  I  believe  about  a  half  dozen. 

May  I  suggest  to  you  the  name  of  Dan  Amado. 

Mr.  Penha.  Yes. 

Mr.  Arens.  Did  you  know  him  as  a  Communist  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Yes.  Dan  Amado  was  another  member  of  the  Sec- 
tion Committee,  and  the  last  one,  of  course,  was  myself. 

Mr.  Arens.  Can  you  give  us  a  word  of  characterization  or  descrip- 
tion of  the  activity  of  Dan  Amado  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Dan  Amado  was  a  worker  in  the  Goodyear  plant  and 
as  such  he  was  to  carry  the  party's  policy  into  the  plant  and  influence 
as  many  of  the  people  as  he  possibly  could.  I  would  like  also  to  say 
that  he  was  very  active  in  Negro  affairs  because  of  the  fact  that  he  is 
of  Cape  Verdean  extraction. 

Mr.  Arens.  We  are  in  the  period  of  1950,  shortly  after  you  joined 
the  Communist  Party ;  is  that  correct  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  That  is  correct. 

Mr.  Arens.  In  the  chronology  of  your  career  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Were  there  other  members  who  subsequently  came  into 
the  New  Bedford  Section  of  the  Communist  Party  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Can  you  tell  us  who  they  were  and  a  word  of  descrip- 
tion or  characterization  of  them  from  the  standpoint  of  their  activity  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Yes,  sir.    The  subsequent  members  of  the  Section  Com- 


2104    coMiMTJisrrsT  activitieis  m  the  new  exgll\nd  area 

mittee  took  place  as  a  result  of  the  State  law  passed  in  1951  outlawing 
the  Communist  Party  in  Massachusetts. 

In  other  words,  some  of  the  key  membei-s  took  off,  they  flew  the  coop, 
as  the  party  would  say.  As  a  result  of  that,  when  I  became  section 
organizer,  I  had  to  bring  in  other  people,  among  them  Douglas  Perry, 
union  organizer  for  the  UE.  I  v.'ould  say,  although  I  anticipate  on 
the  question  of  infiltration  and  colonization  that  we  are  going  to  speak 
about  him  later — I  will  say  one  thing  now,  that  a  union  organizer ;  that 
is,  a  Communist,  as  the  mandate  of  the  party  is,  first,  he  is  a  Commu- 
nist, and,  secondly,  union  organizer. 

Mr.  Arens.  Continue, 

Mr.  Penh  A.  The  next  person,  Olga  Garczynski. 

Mr.  Arens.  And  a  word  of  characterization  of  her,  please,  sir. 

Mr.  Peniia.  Olga  Garczynski  is  presently  working  at  a  plant  that 
Avas  known  as  the  National  Silver  Co.  It  has  recently  been  purchased 
by  another  company.  She  has  been  in  the  National  Silver  Co.  working 
from  within  to  organize  the  plant  for  tlie  UE  as  instructed  by  the 
party. 

Mr.  Arens.  Could  you  kindly  give  us  another  name,  please,  sir. 

Mr.  Penha.  Manuel  Coito. 

Mr.  Arens.  And  a  word  about  him,  please,  sir. 

Mr.  Penha*.  Manuel  Coito  was  working  at  a  textile  plant  in  New 
Bedford.  His  influence  cannot  be  minimized  because  of  the  fact  that 
he  knew  and  commanded  a  great  deal  of  respect  with  the  officers  of 
that  local.  He  was  also  very  active  in  various  organizations,  par- 
ticularly Portuguese  clubs  in  the  area. 

Mr.  Arens.  xVll  right,  sir.    Is  there  another  name  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  There  is  Roy  Eogerson. 

Mr.  Arens.  And  a  word  about  him,  please,  sir. 

Mr.  Penha.  Roy  Rogerson  is  employed  at  present  and  for  many 
years  at  the  Morse  Drill  &  Machine  Co. 

Mr.  Kearney.  "Where  is  that  located  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  That  is  in  New  Bedford,  sir. 

He  is  considered  one  of  the  best  hard-core  members,  along  with 
Douglas  Perry,  in  New  England — not  only  in  New  Bedford.  He  has 
been  very  active  in  union  matters  relative  to  creating  a  greater  wedge 
between  management  and  the  union,  also  in  bringing  about  the  party 
line  that  was  his  main  task,  and  also  running  as  a  candidate  for 
political  office  in  order  to  bring  about  the  party  line  in  his  campaign. 

Mr.  Arens.  Is  there  another  name  you  should  like  to  tell  us  about? 

Mr.  Penha.  I  recall  that  Maud  D'haze.  who  is  now  deceased,  Avas 
also  a  member  for  a  short  time. 

Mr.  xVrens.  In  view  of  the  fact  she  is  deceased,  I  suggest  that  we 
will  not  probe  further  w'ith  reference  to  her. 

May  I  suggest  the  name  Arnold  Schwartz  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  The  next  person  is  Arnold  Schwartz. 

Mr.  Arens.  And  a  word  about  him,  please,  sir. 

]Mr.  Penha.  xVrnold  Schwartz  is  originally  from  Ncav  York,  I  be- 
lieve the  Bronx.  He  is  a  colonizer.  He  was  sent  from  the  New  York 
area  into  Now  England  for  the  ])urpose  of  colonization.  The  district 
in  turn  sent  him  into  New  Bedford  area,  where  he  obtained  em])loy- 
ment  at  the  Wamsutta  Mills,  a  textile  plant,  as  instructed  by  the  party. 

The  next  i")erson  is  his  wife,  Rosaline  Schwartz. 


COMMUNIST    ACTIVITIES    IN    THE    NEW    ENGLAND    AREA     2105 

Mr.  Arens.  And  a  word  about  lier,  please,  sir. 

Mr.  Penha.  She  in  turn  was  also  a  colonizer.  When  she  came  into 
our  area,  she  was,  of  course,  married.  They  had  originally  come 
together  from  New  York.  She  also  obtained  employment  in  New 
Bedford  as  instructed  by  the  party  for  the  purposes  of  colonization. 

Mr.  Arens.  Are  there  any  other  persons  who,  to  your  certain  knowl- 
edge, were  members  at  any  time  since  1950  in  the  New  Bedford  Section 
of  the  Communist  Party  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  I  would  say  that  we  did  have,  for  example,  acting  mem- 
bers for  a  short  period  of  time. 

Mr.  Arens.  What  do  you  mean  by  an  acting  member  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  An  acting  member  is  one  who  is  not  elected  to  the  com- 
mittee, but  is  a  responsible  hard-core  member  that  we  need  for  various 
reasons. 

Mr.  Arens.  Now,  these  persons  whom  you  have  just  named  were 
in  the  leader  echelon  in  the  New  Bedford  Section;  isn't  that  correct? 

Mr.  Penha.  They  were  elected  to  the  Section  Committee,  New  Bed- 
ford. 

Mr.  Arens.  And  for  each  one  of  these  persons  there  were  a  number 
of  other  comrades  who  were  not  quite  in  this  high  status  within  the 
apparatus  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Very  definitely  so,  sir. 

Mr.  Moulder.  May  I  interrupt  to  ask :  You  have  used  the  phrase 
"instructed  by  the  party."    Would  you  explain  that  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Yes,  sir. 

When  I  say  "instructed  by  the  party,"  I  make  reference  to  the  fact 
that  when  a  section  committee  is  holding  a  meeting,  a  district  leader 
comes  down  and  gives  the  party  line,  or  policy,  or  instructions  on  each 
individual  case.  In  other  cases  it  may  well  be,  as  it  happened  in  many 
instances,  that  the  instructions  were  conveyed  to  me  by  a  district 
leader  because  of  the  fact  that  I  used  to  come  into  Boston  very  often. 

Mr.  Arens.  We  expect  in  a  little  while,  perhaps  this  afternoon,  to 
interrogate  you  with  respect  to  comrades  within  the  New  Bedford 
Section  in  the  lower  echelons.  We  are  now  interrogating  you  with 
reference  to  the  leadership  as  you  understand,  do  you  not  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  That  is  correct,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  I  would  like,  if  you  please,  sir,  to  skip  over  to  the 
Fall  River  Section  Committee,  the  leadership  in  that  area,  and  ask 
you  to  kindly  tell  us  the  names  of  persons  who  to  your  certain  knowl- 
edge were  on  the  Fall  River  Section  Committee. 

Perhaps  later  we  will  interrogate  you  publicly  with  reference  to  the 
rank  and  file. 

Mr.  Penha.  James  Rex. 

Mr.  Arens.  And  a  word  of  characterization  about  him,  please,  sir. 

Mr.  Penha.  He  was  a  person  that  was  considered  a  hard-core 
member  and  was  considered  more  or  less  the  mouthpiece  of  the  party 
in  that  area. 

When  I  say  "the  mouthpiece,"  it  is  a  person  that  is  used  for  the  pur- 
poses of  indicating  to  the  public  in  that  area  that  the  party  is  legiti- 
mate and  that  it  is  operating  in  the  open.  He  handled  extensively 
literature,  press,  and  dues. 

The  next  one  is  Ernie  Audette. 

Mr.  Arens.  Could  you  give  us  a  word  of  characterization  of  Ernie 
Audette? 


2106     COMMUNIST    ACTIVinE&   IN    THE    NEW    ENGLAND    AREA 

Mr.  Penha.  Certainly,  sir.  Ernie  Audette  was  used  for  mass 
agitation  and  propaganda,  mainly. 

Mr.  AnENS.  We  will  probe  with  you  a  little  later  as  to  what  you 
mean  by  mass  agitation  and  propaganda  and  some  of  the  activities, 
but  gives  us,  if  you  please,  right  now,  just  a  thumbnail  description 
of  mass  agitation  and  propaganda  within  the  lingo  of  the  conspiracy. 

Mr.  Peniia.  Mass  agitation  and  propaganda  that  is  utilized  basi- 
cally in  Communist  fronts.  If  there  is  an  issue  that  the  party  sees 
or  can  develop  that  will  meet  the  immediate  demands  of  the  workers 
or  the  group  of  any  particular  organization,  they  are  going  to  culti- 
vate it.  They  have  extraordinary  organizational  abilities  to  do  it. 
However,  as  time  goes  on,  if  they  see  that  there  is  nothing  else  com- 
ing from  it,  other  than  helping  that  immediate  cause,  then  it  is  of  no 
benefit  to  the  party  and  they  will  drop  it.  If,  however,  it  does  help 
the  party,  then  it  provides  a  means  whereas  the  party  can  bring  its 
line  into  undermining  and  smearing  our  democratic  system. 

Mr.  Arens.  Is  there  another  person  who  to  your  certain  knowledge 
was  a  member  of  the  Fall  Kiver  Section  Committee  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  There  was  Alex 

Mr.  Arens.  Was  it  Alex  Sawchyn  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  That  is  correct,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Kindly  give  us  a  word  of  description  of  him,  please. 

Mr.  Penha.  Alex  was  tied  in  with  labor  circles  of  the  Fall  River 
Section  of  the  party,  and  it  was  his  job  to  bring  the  party  influence 
within  the  labor  forces. 

Mr.  Arens.  Is  there  another  name?  May  I  suggest  the  name  of 
Sam  Appel  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  I  believe  I  stated  that  one.    Maybe  I  didn't. 

Mr.  Arens.  I  am  afraid  you  did  not. 

Mr.  Penha.  I  am  sorry,  sir. 

Sam  Appel  was  the  key,  the  link,  with  the  professional  people  of 
Fall  River.  By  and  large  his  responsibility  lay  on  the  basis  of  ac- 
tivity in  Communist  fronts;  activities  in  the  Progressive  Party  of 
Fall  River,  which  he  was  responsible  for ;  and  more  important  to  the 
party  at  times,  it  is  very  important,  finances,  of  which  he  was  able  to 
obtain  large  sums. 

Mr,  Arens.  Did  he  make  substantial  contributions,  or  did  he  chan- 
nel substantial  funds  to  the  Communist  apparatus? 

Mr.  Penha.  I  would  say  both,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Now,  may  I  invite  your  attention  to  the  Providence 
Section  Committee,  Providence,  R.  I.,  and  ask  you  if  you  would 
kindly  give  us  the  name  and  a  word  of  characterization  of  each  person 
who,  to  your  certain  knowledge,  was  a  member  of  that  committee. 

We  will  not  at  the  moment  get  below  the  section  committee  level, 
if  you  please,  sir. 

Mr.  Moulder.  And  would  you  also  add  the  period  of  time  to  which 
you  are  now  referring  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  Yes,  sir.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman.  What  period  of 
time  were  you  connected  with  the  Providence  Section  Committee? 

Mr.  Penha.  I  would  say  approximately  1953,  straight  along  the  fol- 
lowing years. 

Mr.  Arens.  All  right,  sir.  Now,  would  you  kindly  proceed  with 
your  testimony  ? 


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COMMUlSriST    ACTIVITIES    IN    THE    NEW    ENGLAND    AREA     2107 

Mr.  Penha.  I  would  just  like  to  bring  to  the  attention  of  the  chair- 
man, which  I  am  sure  he  realizes,  that  I  am  working  strictly  from 
memory,  and  it  is  a  little  difficult  to  ascertain  exactly  the  dates.  I 
will  attempt  to  do  my  best. 

Mr.  Moulder.  We  understand  that.  It  is  the  approximate  period 
of  time  that  you  are  referring  to. 

Mr.  Penha.  Thank  you,  sir.     Thank  you  very  kindly. 

Mr.  Arens.  Would  you  kindly  proceed  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  I  shall  start  first  with  Geoffrey  IVhite,  as  section  or- 
ganizer and  chairman  of  the  Providence  Section  Committee. 

Mr.  Arens.  He  just  recently  moved  to  California,  did  he  not? 

Mr.  Penha.  That  is  correct,  sir.  I  am  not  in  possession  of  informa- 
tion as  to  why  he  went  there,  but  I  have  a  pretty  good  opinion  why. 

Mr.  Arens.  Could  you  tell  us,  was  he  in  the  underground  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  He  was,  yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  We  are  having  difficulty  trying  to  locate  him.  That  is 
the  reason  I  asked. 

Mr.  Penha.  I  would  say  this  about  Geoffrey  White.  I  think  in  de- 
scribing an  individual  such  as  Geoff'rey  White  would  more  or  less  clear 
the  picture  as  to  what  a  colonizer  is.     Geoff'rey  White 

Mr.  Arens.  Is  there  another  person,  please  ?    Excuse  me. 

Mr.  Penha.  Geoffrey  White  is  an  extremely  brilliant  individual. 
He  is  a  Harvard  graduate.  He  is  an  individual  with  vast  experience 
in  the  Communist  Party,  who  will  follow  the  party  line,  and  is  a  very 
hard-core  disciplined  Communist.  He  is  also  or  was  selected  to  be  a 
colonizer  twice,  once  in  the  Providence  area,  and  the  other  time  in 
the  South. 

Mr.  Arens.  It  is  our  information  that  Geoffrey  White  was  one  of 
those  persons  who,  allegedly  in  the  course  of  the  last  several  months, 
has  submitted  what  we  might,  with  tongue  in  cheek,  characterize  as  a 
resignation  from  the  Communist  Party.  On  the  basis  of  your  back- 
ground, experience,  and  information  of  Geoffrey  White,  do  you  think 
he  actually  resigned  from  the  apparatus,  in  addition  to  technical 
resignation  from  the  party  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Absolutely  not,  sir.  In  the  first  place,  I  knew  Geoffrey 
White  very  well.  I  think  I  was  one  of  the  closest  persons  to  him, 
other  than  the  district  organizer.  Secondly,  knowing  that  he  was  a 
hard-core  Communist  and  knowing  the  techniques  of  the  Communist 
Party,  I  am  quite  sure  that  his  statement,  made  public,  that  he  had 
resigned  from  the  party  was  instructed  by  the  party  itself. 

Mr.  Moulder.  Where  was  this  statement  made  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  One  of  the  places,  I  believe,  was  the  Daily  Worker. 

Mr.  Moulder.  You  say  he  is  now  active  in  California? 

Mr.  Penha.  Well,  he  subsequently  left  for  California.  It  is  my 
assumption  here  that  he  has  gone  there  as  a  colonizer.  That  is  one 
of  the  techniques  of  the  party,  to  break  away  certain  elements  and 
then  use  them  at  a  later  date.  That  is  what  they  call  putting  them 
on  ice. 

Mr.  Moulder.  Putting  on  what  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Putting  on  ice. 

Mr.  Arens.  Or  sleepers.  They  call  that  sleepers,  don't  they  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Or  sleej^ers.    That  is  correct,  sir. 


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2108     COMMUNIST    ACTIVITIES    IN    THE    NEW    ENGLAND    AREA 

Mr.  Arens.  AVill  you  kindly  tell  us  whether  or  not  there  is  another 
person  known  to  you  to  be  a  member  of  the  Providence,  R.  I.,  Section 
of  the  Communist  Party  apparatus? 

Mr.  Pexiia.  The  next  person  is  Ralph  Lofsky. 

Mr.  Arens.  And  a  word  about  him,  please,  sir. 

Mr.  Penha.  Ralph  Lofsky  is  the  treasurer  of  the  party.  He  handles 
the  finances.  But  more  important,  he  is  the  theoretician  of  the  party 
in  Rhode  Island. 

Mr.  Arens.  Is  there  another  person  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  The  next  person  is  Jerry  DiBiase. 

Mr.  Arens.  And  a  word  about  him,  please,  sir. 

Mr.  Penha.  Jerry  DiBiase,  in  order  to  bring  some  light  into  his 
identity,  I  think  it  is  important  again  to  speak  of  Geoffrey  White. 
When  Geoffrey  White  was  working  in  the  plant  in  Rhode  Island  as  a 
colonizer,  he  recruited  Jerry  DiBiase,  which  is  another  of  the  assets 
of  a  colonizer.  Jerry  DiBiase  has  been  trained  in  the  party  for  the 
purpose  of  being  utilized  as  a  colonizer.  He  has  also  been  very  active 
in  the  Labor  Youth  League. 

Mr.  Moulder.  Wliere  are  they  now  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  I  beg  your  pardon,  sir  ? 

Mr.  Moulder.  Wlrere  are  they  now  and  what  are  they  doing  at  this 
time  ?    Do  you  know  of  your  personal  knowledge  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Are  you  referring  to  Jerry  DiBiase,  sir  ? 

Mr.  Moulder.  Yes. 

Mr.  Penha.  He  may  be  ri^ht  here  in  this  room.  I  didn't  look 
around  sir.     Do  you  mean  reference  where  he  has  been  working? 

Mr.  Moulder.  Yes, 

Mr.  Penha.  He  has  been  in  the  Rhode  Island  section  for  some  time. 

Mr.  Arens.  Mr.  Chairman,  may  I  advise  the  Chair  that  a  subpena 
has  been  served  upon  Jerry  DiBiase  for  appearance  during  this  series 
of  hearings  here  in  Boston. 

Is  there  another  name  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  The  next  person  is  Dorothy  Friedman.  Dorothy  Fried- 
man was  responsible  for  the  party  front  organizations  and  establish- 
ing meetings  and  lectures  for  the  party  unnoticingly,  of  course,  to 
many  sources,  that  is,  public  sources. 

I  may  also  point  out  at  this  time  that  during  the  time  of  the  revolu- 
tion in  Guatemala,  she  went  there  supposedly  on  a  visit.  I  don't  know 
exactly  what  it  was. 

Mr.  Kearney.  That  is  a  good  time  to  go  to  any  country,  when  there 
is  a  revolution  going  on. 

Mr.  Penha.  Especially  a  Communist,  sir. 

Mr.  Moulder.  In  addition  to  the  suggestion  made  by  ]\Ir.  Arens, 
that  you  give  a  brief  identification  of  persons  which  you  name,  so  that 
they  may  not  be  confused  with  persons  who  may  in  no  way  be  related 
to  the  Communist  Party,  could  you  also  tell  us  what  your  latest  in- 
formation or  knowledge  is  concerning  those  persons  as  to  what  they 
are  now  doing  and  where  they  are  now? 

Mr.  Penha.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  All  right,  sir.  With  that  understanding  would  you 
kindly  proceed  to  the  next  name  of  a  person  known  by  you  to  be  a 
member  of  the  Providence  Section  Committee. 

Mr.  Penha.  The  next  person  is  Dave  Kolodoff.  Dave  Kolodoff  was 
responsible  for  press  and  literature.    I  believe,  to  the  best  of  my  recol- 


COMMUNIST    ACTIVITIES    EN    THE    NEW    ENGLAND    AREA    2109 

lection,  he  is  employed  in  a  liquor  package  store  which  is  owned  by  his 
parents. 

Mr.  Arens.  Do  you  know  what  city  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  In  Providence,  R.  I. 

Mr.  Akens.  All  right,  sir.    Proceed  then  to  the  next  name. 

Mr.  Peniia.  I  am  sorry — the  question  is  for  the  next  name  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  If  you  please.    May  I  suggest  the  name  of  Ann  White  ? 

Mr.  Peniia.  I  am  trying  to  think  of  the  persons.  I  was  wondering 
may  I  have  a  pad  here  so  I  could  put  down  the  names? 

Mr.  Arens.  Surely. 

Mr.  Penha.  I  could  put  them  down,  and  it  would  help  me  h.ecause  I 
don't  like  to  make  a  repetition. 

(Paper  handed  to  witness.) 

Mr.  Peniia.  Thank  you. 

The  next  person  is  Ann  White.  She  is  the  wife  of  Geoffrey  AVhite, 
She  was — I  would  put,  first,  her  occupation  in  order  to  establish  the 
proper  identity.  She  has  been  a  housewife  for  a  considerable  length 
of  tim.e.  She  has  been  in  charge  of  the  Labor  Youth  League  in 
Rhode  Island.  She  was  also  selected  for  the  purposes  of  being  sent 
to  the  South  as  a  colonizer. 

Mr.  Arens.  May  I  suggest  the  name  John  Hovan  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Yes,  sir.  John  Hovan  was  acting  section  organizer 
for  a  while,  and  also  at  different  intervals  he  was  a  member  of  the 
Section  Committee.  He  was  employed  for  the  same  purposes  of 
colonization  in  the  Brown  and  Sharpe  Manufacturing  Company  in 
Providence,  among  others.  He  has  been  in  several  other  plants  since 
then. 

Mr.  Arens.  May  I  suggest  the  name  Frank  Martin  ? 

]\Ir.  Penha.  Frank  ]\Iartin  was  the  first  section  organizer  for 
Providence,  that  is,  the  first  from  the  time  that  I  became  active  in  the 
party.  He  was  an  able  theoretician  and  liad  excellent  organization 
abilities.  In  1955,  I  believe,  at  a  district  committee  meeting,  which 
as  a  member  I  was  present,  we  voted  to  expel  him  at  that  timxC. 

Mr.  Arens.  Now,  may  I  invite  your  attention  to  the  Boston  Sec- 
tion Committee  of  the  Communist  Party  and  ask  you,  first  of  all,  to 
give  us  the  date  on  which  you  were  identified  with  the  Boston  Section 
Committee  of  the  Communist  Party. 

Mr.  Penha.  I  believe  the  question  referred  to  the  committee  as  a 
whole  and  the  meetings  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  Yes,  if  you  please.  •  We  want  to  proceed  in  a  few  mo- 
ments with  identification  of  persons  known  to  you  to  be  on  tlie  Sec- 
tion Committee  of  Boston. 

We  do  not  intend,  at  least  for  the  next  several  minutes,  to  get  into 
anyone  below  the  Section  Committee  in  Boston. 

Mr.  Penha.  I  believe  in — approximately  sometime  in  1954:  or  '53 — • 
I  am  a  little  vague  on  the  years. 

Mr.  Arens.  All  right,  sir. 

Mr.  Penha.  But  I  believe  that  would  be  the  time.  I  would  start 
oft'  first  with  Margaret  Hicks. 

Mr.  Arens.  And  a  word  about  her,  please,  sir. 

Mr.  Penha.  I  know  she  was  active  in  Negi'o  affairs,  being  that  slie 
was  a  Negro  in  front  organizations. 

Ann  Garfield. 


2110     COMMUNIST    ACTIVITIES    IN    THE    NEW    ENGLAND    AREA 

Mr.  Arens.  And  a  word  about  her,  please,  sir. 

Mr.  Penha.  Ann  Garfield  vras  active  in  Communist  fronts,  mainly. 
I  don't  think  I  have 

Mr.  Arens.  May  I  suggest  the  name  of  Jerry  Olrich? 

Mr.  Penha.  That  is  what  I  was  going  to  ask.  I  don't  think  I 
covered  him. 

Mr.  Arens.  Kindly  give  us  a  word  about  him,  please,  sir. 

Mr.  Penha.  He  is  a  very  able  Marxist,  a  well  indoctrinated,  hard- 
core Marxist,  and  theoretician.  Much  of  his  advice  is  utilized  be- 
cause of  his  vast  experience  and  prestige  in  the  party. 

Mr.  Arens.  May  I  make  the  record  clear  here  ?  The  names  which 
I  have,  from  time  to  time,  been  prompting  your  memory  with  and 
suggesting  are,  in  each  and  every  instance,  names  which  you  have 
heretofore  given  us  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  That  is  absolutely  correct. 

Mr.  Arens.  In  private  session,  is  that  correct  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  That  is  absolutely  correct,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Now,  may  I  suggest  the  name  of  Edith  Abber  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Edith  Abber  was  very  active  in  various  Communist 
fronts  and  particularly  in  issues  that  the  party  would  raise,  whether 
it  be  for  peace,  rent  control,  or  what  have  you. 

Mr.  Arens.  And  Anne  Burlak  Timpson. 

Mr.  Penha.  I  want  to  just  say  one  thing  in  addition  to  what  I  will 
continue  on,  but  I  have  noticed  in  the  press,  not  from  this  time  but 
from  the  past,  that  Anne  Burlak  is  known  as  the  "Red  Flame." 

Mr.  Moulder.  I  did  not  understand  that. 

Mr.  Penha.  She  has  been  addressed  i]i  the  newspaper,  in  the  past 
I  am  referring  to,  as  the  "Eed  Flame."  I  would  like  to  state  at  this 
time  that  in  the  party  she  was  more  than  the  Red  Flame.  I  don't 
know  how  the  newspapers  arrive  at  that  phrase  of  calling  her  that, 
but  they  were  very  accurate  in  describing  this  person. 

Mr.  Arens.  Would  you  kindly  give  us  now,  please,  a  word  of  char- 
acterization or  description  of  her  activities  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Anne  Burlak  is  a  very  ruthless,  hard-core  Communist. 
She  spares  no  one  in  order  to  achieve  further  recognition  from  tlie 
top  leadership.  She  is  a  past  National  Committee  member  of  the 
Communist  Party.  She  is,  or  rather  she  lias  been,  a  paid  functionary 
by  the  National  Committee. 

Mr.  Arens.  Incidentally,  have  you  seen  her  in  the  court  room  here 
this  morning  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  I  haven't  looked  around  to  see.  It  is  possible  she  may 
be.   If  you  wish,  I  could  look. 

Mr.  Arens.  No,  I  just  wondered  if  you  had  seen  her,  because  she 
is  under  subpena. 

Mr.  Penha.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Moulder.  The  committee  will  stand  in  recess  until  1 :  30  p.  m. 

("\^niereupon,  at  11 :  50  a.  m.  March  18,  1958,  the  committee  re- 
cessed to  reconvene  at  1 :  30  p.  m.  the  same  day.) 

AFTERNOON  SESSION,  TUESDAY,  MARCH  18, 1958 

(Committee  members  present:  Representatives  Moulder,  Doyle, 
Kearney,  and  Mcintosh.) 

Mr,  Moulder.  The  committee  will  be  in  order. 


CX)MMUNIST    ACTIVITIES    IN    THE    NEW    ENGLAND    AREA     2111 

Are  you  ready  to  proceed,  Mr.  Aiens  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  Yes,  if  you  please,  Mr.  Chairman. 

TESTIMONY  OF  AHMANDO  PENHA— Resumed 

Mr.  Arens.  I  now  invite  your  attention,  if  you  please,  sir,  to  tlie 
New  England  District  Committee  of  the  Communist  Party  and  ask 
you  to  proceed,  in  like  manner  as  this  morning,  to  give  us  the  name 
of  each  person  who,  to  your  certain  knowledge,  was  a  member  of  the 
New  England  District  Committee  of  the  Communist  Party.  First  of 
all,  please  state  the  approximate  time  of  your  identification  with  that 
entity. 

Mr.  Peniia.  I  wish  to  state  at  this  time,  Mr.  Arens,  that  the  first 
election  held  in  New  England  for  the  officers  of  the  District  Com- 
mittee was  held  in  1955,  prior  to  that  it  was  either  1950  or  1951.  This 
was  the  first  permanent  elected  committee  since  that  time. 

There  were  18  members  on  the  District  Committee.  There  were 
two  alternates  and  there  was  one  member-at-large. 

As  to  the  names,  I  shall  start  off  with  the  easiest  one — myself.  Then 
there  Avas  Michael  Russo,  district  organizer,  then.  He  had  come  out 
in  the  open. 

Sidney  Lipshires,  Daniel  B.  Schirmer. 

Mr.  Aeens.  Was  Sidney  Lipshires  district  secretary  ? 

Mr.  Peniia.  At  that  time  he  was ;  yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  That  is  in  1955  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  That  is  November  or  December  of  1955,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Wliat  position  did  Daniel  B.  Schirmer  have? 

Mr.  Penha.  Daniel  Boone  Schirmer  was  party  defense  chairman 
for  New  England. 

jNIr.  Arens.  What  do  you  mean  by  defense  chairman?  '\Vliat  was 
his  function  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  His  fimction  was  to  act  to  coordinate  and  to  hand 
down  directives  from  the  National  Committee  of  the  Communist  Party 
in  relation  to:  Number  1,  to  form  all  types  of  attacks  against  com- 
mittees such  as  this ;  Number  2  would  be  to  raise  funds  in  the  possi- 
bility of  any  arrests;  Number  3  would  be  propaganda  in  order  to 
undermine  and  harass  the  Government,  both  State  and  Federal. 

Mr.  Arens.  All  right,  sir.  Would  you  kindly  proceed  to  the  next 
name. 

Mr.  Penha.  Kitty  Heck. 

Mr.  Arens.  And  a  word  about  her,  please,  sir. 

Mr.  Penha.  Kitty  Heck,  while  in  the  imderground,  she  was  a  prod- 
uct from  another  state,  iiyported  here  for  underground  work,  mainly 
to  serve  as  a  courier  for  the  party  and  also  to  coordinate  some  of  the 
work  that  was  handed  down  by  National  Committee  directives. 

Mr.  Arens.  All  right,  sir.    Another  name,  please,  sir. 

Mr.  Penha.  Geoflrey  White,  section  organizer  at  the  time,  from 
Providence,  R.  I. 

Mr.  Arens.  You  previously  mentioned  him. 

Mr.  Penha.  That  is  correct,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  And  gave  us  a  word  about  him.  All  right,  sir.  Is 
there  another  name? 

Mr.  Penha.  The  next  one,  Tony  Passaretti,  from  Lawrence. 

Mr.  Arens.  Give  us  a  word  about  him,  please,  sir. 


2112     COMMUNIST    ACTIVITIES    EST    THE    NEW    ENGIjAND    ARE.A 

Mr.  Penha.  Tony  Passaretti  was  a  section  organizer  for  Lawrence. 
His  task  was  to  implement  the  party  line  and  carry  out  its  policies 
in  tlie  Lawrence  area. 

ISIr.  Arens.  Another  name,  please,  sir. 

Mr.  Pexha.  I  would  like  to  add  two  names  here  and,  at  the  same 
time,  explain  why  I  am  referring-  to  both  of  them  rather  than  sepa- 
rately. 

One  is  Joe  Chase  and  the  other  one  is  Bill  Harrison.  Bill  Har- 
rison I  know  to  be  a  writer.  The  important  element  liere  tliat  I 
would  like  to  raise  is  that  at  the  time  of  the  election  of  the  District 
Committee  members,  these  two  Communists  were  not  present.  Their 
names  were  proposed,  acted  on,  and  elected.  They  were  the  only 
two  that  were  not  present  at  the  meeting.  I  do  not  know  who  this 
Chase  is. 

Mr.  Arens.  All  right,  sir.     Do  you  have  another  name? 

Mr.  Penha.  Eddie  Garfield. 

Mr.  Arens.  And  a  word  about  him,  please,  sir, 

Mr.  Penha.  Eddie  Garfield  is  a  former  colonizer.  He  was  also 
prominent  in  the  plant  which  he  colonized,  as  the  editor  of  its  paper 
in  order  to  further  bring  out  party  propaganda. 

JNIr.  Arens.  Did  he  ever  serve  on  the  Metals  Commission  of  the 
party  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  He  was  also  a  member  of  the  Xew  England  District 
Metals  Commission. 

Mr.  Arens.  Give  us  just  a  word  of  description  about  that  com- 
mission. 

Mr.  Penha.  Tlie  New  England  District  Metals  Commission  is  a 
group  which  has  been  formed,  and  is  part  of  a  national  chain  directed 
by  the  National  Committee,  for  the  purposes  of  coordinating  direc- 
tives issued  by  the  National  Committee  relative  to  colonization,  infil- 
tration, agitation,  propaganda,  and  many  other  items,  particularly 
the  sending  of  colonizers  to  other  areas. 

Mr.  Arens.  Is  there  another  name,  please,  sir  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  The  next  name  would  be  Robert  Goodwin. 

Mr.  Arens.  A  word  about  him,  please,  sir. 

Mr.  Penha.  Robert  Goodwin,  a  former  colonizer,  chairman  of  tlie 
New  England  District  Metals  Commission. 

Mr.  Arens.  Where  was  he  located,  in  what  city  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  He  came  from  the  Lynn  area. 

The  next  person,  Nat  Mills,  Natlianiel  Mills.  Nat  Mills  had  been 
previously  a  colonizer  for  the  party  in  this  area.  Subsequently,  he 
became  head  of  the  Massachusetts  Committee  for  the  Bill  of  Rights. 

Mr.  Arens.  From  whence  did  he  come?    • 

Mr.  Penha.  He  was  from  the  Lynn  area. 

Mr.  Arens.  All  right,  sir.     Is  tliere  another  name  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  ]\Iargaret  Hicks,  from  the  Boston  area.  I  have  re- 
ferred to  her  before,  I  believe. 

Mr.  Arens.  You  have  alluded  to  her  before  and  given  a  word  of 
description. 

Mr.  Penha.  That  is  right. 

Mr.  Arens.  Is  there  another  name  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Elba  Chase,  section  organizer  for  New  Hampshire. 

Mr.  Arens.  A  Avord  of  description  about  her,  please,  sir. 


COMMUNIST    ACTIVrriES    IN    THE    NEW    ENGLAND    AREA     2113 

Mr.  Penha.  Well,  she  is  a  section  organizer,  and  her  responsibility 
is  parallel  to  all  section  organizers,  that  is,  to  huplement  the  party 
line,  carry  out  its  policies,  and  maintain  party  discipline  in  the  area 
which  they  are  responsible  for. 

Mr.  AuExs.  Is  there  another  name,  please,  sir  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  There  is  also  one  that  I  recall  now.  I  made  reference 
a  little  while  ago  about  two  persons  that  w^ere  not  present.  I  just 
recall  there  was  another  one  that  was  nominated  and  elected  by  the 
name  of  Ploward. 

Mr.  xVrens.  Is  that  his  first  name  or  last  name  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  I  do  not  know,  sir,  because  I  don't  know  who  he  is. 

Mr.  Arexs.  Was  he  from  Springfield  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Ke  was  to  represent  Springfield.  His  alternate  was 
Paul  Kosenkrants,  I  believe. 

Elba  Chase  had  an  alternate  in  the  person  of  Hugo  DeGregory. 

Mr.  Arens.  a  word  about  him,  please,  sir. 

Mr.  Penha.  Hugo  DeGregory  was  a  very  active  Communist,  both 
in  Massachusetts  and  New  Hampshire.  In  effect  he  was  the  key  man 
in  New  Hampshire,  because  of  the  fact  that  Elba  Chase,  being  an 
elderly  Conmiunist,  was  not  able  to  commute  and  contact  the  com- 
rades as  effective!}"  as  Hugo. 

Mr.  Arens.  Was  Otis  Hood  on  the  New  England  District  Commit- 
tee in  1955  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Otis  Hood  w^as  also  elected  to  the  New  England  Dis- 
trict Committee  at  that  time. 

Mr.  Arens.  Is  he  here  present  today? 

Mr.  Penha.  I  Avould  have  to  check,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Could  you  look  over  your  right  shoulder  and  see  if 
you  see  him  present  here  in  the  hearing  room? 

]Mr.  Penha.  The  gentleman  is  right  there  smiling  at  me. 

Mr.  Kearney.  I  didn't  get  the  answer  of  tlie  witness  there. 

Mr.  Penha.  I  said  the  gentleman  is  right  there  smiling  at  me  in 
the  front  row 

Mr,  Kearney.  What  is  his  name? 

Mr.  Penha.  Otis  Hood. 

Mr.  Kearney.  Is  that  the  governor? 

Mr.  Penha.  Well,  as  far  as  the  party  theories  go,  when  Socialism 
comes  into  the  country  that  will  be  our  next  governor. 

Mr.  Kearney.  That  will  be  the  day. 

Mr.  Arens.  Is  there  another  name,  please,  sir  ?  Excuse  me.  Would 
you  want  to  characterize,  give  us  a  word  of  description  of,  the  ac- 
tivities of  Otis  Hood? 

Mr.  Penha.  Yes.  First,  I  would  like  to  say,  as  all  people  present 
can  see,  that  physically  Otis  Hood  is  a  man  of  some  stature.  The 
same  thing  a])plies  politically.  He  is  ruthless.  He  is  capable  of 
anything  and  he  will  do  anything  in  order  to  further  his  own  personal 
aims,  let  alone  tlie  party's  goal. 

Mr.  Arens.  What  was  his  function  as  a  member  of  the  New  England 
District  Committee  in  1955? 

IMr.  Penha.  He  was  assigned  one  or  two  areas  which  he  was  re- 
sponsible for.     At  the  moment  I  don't  recall  it. 

Mr.  Arens.  Did  he  have  a  little  something  to  do  with  press  and 
literature  ? 


2114    C0M]MU]snsT  AcnvrriES  in  the  new  England  areiA 

Mr.  Penha.  He  was  for  a  time  in  charge  for  the  entire  state  on 
press  and  literature.  He  was  also  responsible  in  coming  down  to 
Fall  River  from  time  to  time. 

Mr.  Arens.  Is  he  a  full-time  functionary  of  the  apparatus? 

Mr.  Penha.  I  do  not  know,  sir. 

Mr.  Aeens.  Is  there  another  name,  please,  sir? 

May  I  suggest  Edith  Abber. 

Mr.  Penha.  Edith  Abber. 

Mr.  Arens.  You  have  mentioned  her. 

Mr.  Penha.  Yes. 

Mr.  Arens.  But  was  she  a  member  of  the  New  England  District 
Committee  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  She  was  a  member.    She  was  elected  at  that  time. 

Mr.  Arens.  Anne  Burlak. 

Mr.  Penha.  That  is  a  must  with  her. 

Mr,  Arens.  Tell  us  a  word  about  her.  You  have  heretofore  char- 
acterized her  for  us.    Give  us  a  word  of  her  activities. 

Mr.  Penha.  I  believe  I  have. 

Mr.  Arens.  I  am  sure  you  have. 

Mr.  Penha.  But  whatever  I  have  done  would  not  be  sufficient  to 
cover  the  entire  field  on  that  person. 

Mr.  Arens.  Well,  take  a  half  minute  or  so,  if  you  please,  then,  and 
give  us  a  little  more  characterization  on  this  public  record  of  Anne 
Burlak. 

Mr.  Penha.  Anne  Burlak,  from  my  experiences  in  meetings  at 
^vhich  she  has  been  present,  has  been  one  that  will  sort  of  sit  on  the 
side  and  when  she  finds  the  opportune  time  she  takes  out  her  whip — 
her  whip  is  in  her  tongue ;  she  is  vicious,  unscrupulous — and  she  will 
do  anything  that  she  feels  that  is  deemed  necessary. 

I  may  add  from  my  personal  experience  that  she  is  a  paid  func- 
tionary from  the  National  Committee  and  also  a  person  that  reports 
to  the  National  Committee  as  to  the  activities,  behavior,  and  function 
of  other  officials. 

Mr.  Moulder.  May  I  interrupt?  For  the  purpose  of  clarification, 
you  say  she  is  ruthless,  an  aggressive  person,  who  will  do  anything  to 
obtain  her  objectives.  What  were  those  objectives  and  what  are  her 
purposes  in  conducting  herself  in  the  manner  in  which  you  havp. 
mentioned  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Well,  sir,  they  are  twofold.  One  is  her  personal  ambi- 
tion to  further  herself  within  the  party,  both  in  stature  and  authority. 
The  other  is  to  intimidate  and  decrease  the  influence  of  an}^  comrade 
at  any  given  meeting  that  she  feels  in  any  given  way  is  not  following 
her  hue  of  thinking  or  does  not  agree  with  her.  She  will  use  any 
and  all  terms  which  I  wouldn't  dare  use  here. 

Mr.  Moulder.  Wait  a  minute.  Enforcing  the  Communist  Party 
discipline,  is  that  what  you  are  referring  to  when  you  say  she  is  ruth- 
less? 

Mr.  Penha.  That  is  absolutely  correct,  sir. 

Mr.  ICearney.  Is  she  presently  in  the  room  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  I  would  have  to  look  around,  sir. 
'  Mr.  Kearney.  Take  a  look  around. 

Mr.  Penha.  Yes.    She  is. 

Mr.  Kearney.  For  my  own  personal  reason  would  you  point  her 
out,  please  ? 


COMMUNIST    ACTIVITIES    IN    THE    NEW    ENGLAND    AREA    2115 

Mr.  Penha.  She  is  in  the  fourth  row;  she  is,  I  believe,  the  third 
individual,  that  is  smiling  right  at  the  present  time. 

Mr.  Moulder.  Has  she  been  subpenaed  as  a  witness,  Mr.  Arens  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  Yes. 

Mr.  l^ARNEY.  A  rather  modest  person.    I  can't  see  her. 

Mr.  Arens.  Now  may  I  suggest  the  name  of  Ann  Garfield? 

Mr.  Peniia.  Ann  Garfield,  the  wife  of  Eddie  Garfield,  was  also 
nominated  and  elected  to  the  District  Committee. 

Mr.  Arens.  May  I  suggest  the  name  of  Paul  Rosenkrants  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Paul  Rosenkrants  was  elected,  I  believe,  as  I  recall  as 
an  alternate  for  the  New  England  District  Committee. 

Mr.  Arens.  Now,  may  I  invite  your  attention,  if  you  please,  sir,  to 
the  Massachusetts  Board. 

Mr.  Penha.  Sir,  if  I  may,  I  wish  to  name  one  other  person. 

Mr.  Arens.  I  beg  your  pardon  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Pertaining  to  the  committee. 

Mr.  Arens.  Please  do  so. 

Mr.  Penha.  That  is  the  District  Committee  of  the  party. 

John  Russo.  Jolui  Russo  was  the  head  of  the  Labor  Youtli  League 
for  New  England.  He  was  not  a  member  of  the  District  Committee. 
He  was  considered  a  member-at-large,  that  is,  he  was  to  attend  certain 
meetings  as  directed  by  the  district  which  would  encompass  his  field 
of  specialty  in  the  Youth,  and  at  the  same  time  obtain  directives 
pertaining  to  the  Youth. 

Mr.  Arens,  May  I  invite  your  attention  to  the  Massachusetts  Board 
of  the  Communist  Party  and  suggest  that  since  those  whom  I  under- 
stand you  have  identified  as  members  of  tlie  Massachusetts  Board  in 
our  consultations  with  you  have  all  been  characterized  in  this  public 
session,  you  just  allude  to  each  individual  who  was  a  member  of  the 
Massachusetts  Board  of  the  Communist  Party. 

Mr.  Penha.  Margaret  Hicks.     Robert  Goodwin.     Mike  Russo. 

Mr.  Abens.  Edith  Abber? 

Mr.  Penha.  Yes,  Edith  Abber. 

Mr.  Arens.  How  about  Sidney  Lipshires? 

Mr.  Penha.  Sidney  Lipshires  is  also  a  member  of  that  Board. 

Mr.  Arens.  And  how  about  Kitty  Heck? 

Mr.  Penha.  And  Kitty  Heck  was  at  the  time. 

Mr.  Arens.  And  what  is  the  time  of  which  you  are  speaking  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  This  was  November  or  December  of  1955. 

Mr.  Arens.  Was  Anne  Burlak  Timpson  on  that  Board? 

Mr.  Penha.  I  don't  recall,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Now,  give  us  a  word  of  description  of  the  Massachusetts 
Board.    What  is  it  or  what  was  it? 

Mr,  Penha.  The  Massachusetts  State  Board  was  enacted  for  the 
purpose  of  conducting  the  party  activities  throughout  the  various 
areas.  It  was  to  receive  its  directives  from  the  secretariat  of  the 
district,  which  in  turn  received  it  from  the  National  Committee. 

Mr.  Arens.  May  I  invite  your  attention  to  the  New  England  Dis- 
trict Secretariat.  First  of  all,  tell  us  what  the  New  England  District 
Secretariat  is  and  then  give  us  the  name  of  each  person  who,  to  your 
certain  knowledge,  was  a  member  of  that  entity. 

Mr.  Penha.  The  members  were  Mike  Russo,  Sidney  Lipshires, 
Daniel  Boone  Schirmer.  And  may  I  add  at  this  time  that  the  Secre- 
tariat consisted  of  full-time  paid  functionaries  of  the  party.     In  addi^ 


2116     COMMUNIST    ACTIVITIES    IN    THE    NEW    ENGLANTD    AREA 

tion  to  that,  these  Secretariat  members  were  the  ones  most  likely  to, 
and  certainly  did,  attend  National  Committee  meetings  or  National 
Commission  meetings. 

Mr.  Arens.  Now,  if  you  please,  sir,  I  should  like  to  display  to  you 
each  of  four  exhibits  and  invite  your  attention  to  the  general  subject 
matter  of  the  organizational  structure  of  the  Communist  Party,  from 
the  standpoint  of  the  national  organization,  the  district,  section,  in- 
dividual groups,  industrial  and  neighborhood  units,  and  other  entities 
within  the  organizational  structure  of  the  apparatus. 

May  I  suggest  that  in  view  of  your  intimate  familiarity  with  both 
the  exhibits  and  with  the  structure,  you  might  just  proceed  to  first 
identify  each  of  these  exhibits  which  you  have  supplied  to  us  and 
then  proceed,  at  your  own  pace,  to  summarize  this  organizational 
structure. 

And,  Mr.  Chairman,  I  respectfully  suggest  that  the  Chair  order 
each  of  these  exhibits  as  it  is  identified  to  be  appropriately  marked 
and  included  by  reference  in  this  record. 

]Mr.  Moulder.  It  is  so  ordered. 

Do  you  wish  to  mark  them  now  as  exhibits  so  and  so? 

Mr.  Arens.  Yes,  if  you  please. 

Mr.  Moulder.  Before  you  give  them  to  the  witness  you  are  ordered 
to  do  it. 

Mr.  Arens.  As  he  talks  about  them. 

Would  you  kindly  tell  us  what  this  exhibit  is  now  which  I  lay  be- 
fore you  which  I  have  marked  as  "Penha  Exhibit  No.  1"? 

Mr.  Penha.  Sir,  before  I  identify  these  exhibits,  I  would  like  to 
state  that  in  order  to  make  a  full  and  complete  report  as  to  what 
they  mean  and  for  what  purposes  they  were,  it  would  take  a  great 
deal  of  time.  I  will  attempt  to  cut  the  time  element  down  and  still 
maintain  the  substance  of  it. 

Mr,  Arens.  Would  you  kindly  give  us  a  word  of  identification  first 
of  all  of  each  of  these  exhibits?  The  first  exhibit  I  have  marked 
Exhibit  1.  Kindly  give  us  a  word  of  description  of  that  so  that  it 
mav  be  appropriatelv  alluded  to  by  reference  in  the  record. 

Mr.  Penha.  Exhibit  No.  1,  entitled  "Role  of  Left." 

This  was  given  to  me  by  the  then  district  organizer,  Sidney  Lip- 
shires.     The  purpose  of  this 

Mr.  Arens.  Excuse  me.  Could  you  kindly  date  it  for  us?  Was 
that  in  approximately  1950? 

Mr.  Penha.  I  believe  this  was  approximately  in  the  latter  part  of 
1953,  somewhere  around  that  area,  or  1954,  possibly. 

Mr.  Arens.  All  right,  sir.  Characterize  it  for  us  if  you  would, 
please,  sir. 

Mr.  Penha.  The  purpose  of  this  was  first  of  all,  as  stated  to  me  by 
Sidney  Lipshires,  that  this  was  the  latest  party  directive  handed 
down  to  the  district  by  the  National  Committee.  The  reason  for 
that  was  so  that  the  district,  first  and  foremost,  should  acquaint  itself 
with  the  subject  matters  in  order  to  take  proper  action  within  the 
given  areas  in  the  district. 

Secondly,  this  was  to  be  brought  down  to  the  various  section  levels; 
from  there,  there  would  be  discussions,  plans,  and  objectives  related 
to  the  locals  based  on  industrial  clubs  or  cells,  as  they  are  known,  in 
order  to  implement  the  party  line  in  the  "Role  of  Left." 


COMMUNIST    ACTIVITIES    IN    THE    NEW    ENGLAND    AREA     2117 

(Document  marked  "Penha  Exhibit  No.  1,"  retained  in  committee 
files.) 

Mr.  Arens.  Would  .you  kindly,  in  like  manner,  characterize  for  us 
the  document  which  I  have  marked  "Penha  Exhibit  No.  2"? 

Mr.  Penha.  Exhibit  No.  2,  entitled  "Strugole  Against  White  Chau- 
vinism." This  was  used  some  time  in  the  latter  part  of  1950,  I  be- 
lieve— at  that  time,  upon  the  instruction  of  the  National  Committee, 
which  had  its  pressures  from  Comrade  Pettis  Perry,  that  the  party 
was  imbedded  with  too  much  white  chauvinism. 

Mr.  Moulder.  I  don't  understand  you.  I  did  not  understand  the 
words. 

Mr.  Arens.  A^Hiite  chauvinism.  I  was  about  to  ask  him  what  the 
party  means  by  white  chauvinism.  What  is  the  factual  situation 
which  the  party  undertakes  to  cover  with  the  term  "white  chauvin- 
ism" ? 

Mr.  Penha.  On  the  surface  this  means  something  that  actually  in 
reality  is  not.  It  means,  as  the  party  would  like  it  to  be,  that  white 
people  are  chauvinistic  against  the  Negro  people,  they  discriminate 
against  them  and  the  party  likes  to  be  known  as  the  champion  and 
protector  of  Negro  rights,  which  fortunately  in  our  country  the  major- 
ity of  the  Negroes  do  not  think  for  a  minute  is  true.  They  also  feel 
that  this  would  have  some  impact  not  only  within  the  party  but 
with  its  sympathizers  and  with  such  masses  as  labor  organizations  and 
of  the  kind  where  the  party  had  influence  in.  As  such  the  district 
organizer  at  that  time,  known  as  Manny  Blum — Emanuel  Blum  would 
be  his  correct  name — went  throughout  the  district  with  a  leading  com- 
rade to  make  strict  emphasis  on  this  struggle  against  white  chauvin- 
ism, to  the  extent  of  each  section  finding  1  or  2  party  members  which 
were  proven  already  in  the  past  to  have  been  ideologically  weak  or 
not  accepting  party  discipline  to  its  fullest,  and  utilizing  them  as  a 
target  as  being  responsible  for  acts  of  white  chauvinism  and,  therefore, 
expel  them  at  that  time. 

(Document  marked  "Penha  Exhibit  No.  2."  retained  in  committee 
files.) 

Mr.  Arens.  Now,  may  I  invite  your  attention  to  the  document  which 
I  have  marked  "Penha  Exhibit  No.  3"  and  ask  you  to  kindly  character- 
ize this  document. 

Mr.  Penha.  Exhibit  No.  3,  entitled  "Two  Speeches  by  Joseph 
Stalin." 

Mr.  Arens.  And  the  date,  please,  sir  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  This  is  dated  March  1050.  This  was  issued  by  the  Na- 
tional Education  Department  of  the  Communist  Party  in  New  York 
City.  The  speeches  concern  united  front  activities  and  trade  union 
activities. 

Incidentally,  this  is  the  first  time  that  the  party  has  had  these  two 
articles  translated  into  English ;  and  from  this,  they  hoped  to  be  able 
to  gain  new  techniques  and  methods  in  order  to  better  acquaint  them- 
selves and  work  in  these  fields. 

(Document  marked  "Penha  Exhibit  No.  3,"  retained  in  committee 
files.) 

Mr,  .Arens.  Now,  may  I  display  to  you  a  document  which  I  have 
marked  "Penha  Exhibit  No.  1"  and  ask  you  to  kindly  identify  and 
characterize  that  document  ? 


2118     COMMTJNTST    ACTIVITIES   m    THE    NEW    EOSTGLAND    AREA 

Mr.  Penha.  Exhibit  No.  4  has  no  title.  It  was  submitted  by  the 
National  Administrative  Committee  of  the  Communist  Party,  dated 
February  19,  1955.  Various  discussions  and  meetings  and  various 
ways  and  means  to  project  the  ideas  proposed  in  this  report  were  made 
first  in  the  district,  which  was  received  from  the  National  Committee. 
Then  in  turn  it  went  down  the  line,  the  section  committees,  to  the  clubs, 
and  individual  members  that  were  not  in  the  clubs. 

The  purpose  of  this  was  basically  to  have  a  new  approach  on  the 
general  atmosphere  insofar  as  peace  went.  In  other  words,  let  us 
speak  about  East- West  trade,  how  many  jobs  it  is  going  to  create — 
however,  our  goal  is  recognition  of  Eed  China  in  the  United  Nations, 
and  it  goes  further  on 

Mr.  Moulder.  You  are  reading  now  from  Exliibit  No.  4  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  That  is  correct,  sir. 

And  it  goes  on  about  U.  M.  T.  and  the  H  Bomb,  and  West  German 
rearmament  and  the  same  pattern  follows  as  that  related  to  China,  as 
I  stated. 

Ml'.  Arens.  This  was  a  directive  from  the  high  echelon  of  the  ap- 
paratus to  the  lower  levels,  is  that  correct  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  That  was  given  to  me  by  Sidney  Lipshires,  who  was 
tlien  the  district  organizer,  after  he  had  recently  attended  a  National 
Committee  meeting  in  New  York  City,  based  on  the  same  document. 
This  was  to  go  right  down  the  line  on  the  other  Lefties. 

(Document  marked  "Penha  Exhibit  No.  4"  retained  in  Committee 
files.) 

Mr.  Arens.  Would  you  kindly  take  a  few  minutes  and  state  briefly 
for  this  record  the  present  organizational  structure  of  the  Commu- 
nist apparatus  in  the  United  States  ? 

Mr.  Moulder.  Wait.  Before  going  into  that — As  I  understand, 
this  last  exhibit.  No.  4,  was  given  to  you  by  whom  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Sidney  Lipshires. 

Mr.  Moulder.  And  Exhibits  Nos.  1,  2,  3,  and  4  are  admitted  and 
made  a  part  of  the  record  of  the  committee. 

Mr.  Penha.  I  could,  if  that  is  your  desire,  state  who  gave  me  1,  2, 
and  3. 

Mr.  Moulder.  I  think  that  would  be  a  good  idea. 

Mr.  Arens.  It  might  be  helpful  if  you  would  do  that,  j)lease,  sir. 

Mr.  Penha.  No.  3  was  given  to  me  by  Joseph  Figueiredo,  the  then 
section  organizer  for  New  Bedford. 

No.  1  was  given  to  me  by  Sidney  LiiDshires,  the  then  district  or- 
ganizer. 

"Struggle  Against  White  Chauvinism,"  No.  2,  was  given  to  me  by 
Joseph  Figueiredo. 

Mr.  Moulder.  If  the  counsel  does  not  need  these  exliibits  while  pro- 
ceeding with  further  interrogation  of  the  witness,  may  the  members 
of  the  committee  see  the  exhibitsi 

Mr.  Arens.  Surely. 

If  you  would,  kindly  proceed  at  your  own  pace  now  to  summarize 
for  the  committee  on  this  public  record  the  structural  organization 
of  Communist  operations  in  the  United  States. 

Mr.  Penha.  Certainly,  sir.     It  is  all  right  now,  sir  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  Proceed,  if  you  please. 

Mr.  Penha.  The  Communist  apparatus  is  established  with  the  Na- 
tional Committee  as  being  the  top  functionary  body. 


COMMUJSnST    ACTIVITIES    IN    THE    NEW    ENGLAND    AREA    2119 

In  the  National  Committee  level,  there  are  also  various  types  of 
national  groups.  You  have  your  National  Executive  Committee,  you 
have  National  Commissions,  various  departments.  In  all  I  would 
say  there  are  about  8  or  9.  From  there  it  drops  down  to  the  district 
level,  New  England  being  the  District  No.  1.  New  England  encom- 
passes the  areas  of  Vermont,  Maine,  New  Hampshire,  Massachusetts. 

From  the  district  level,  it  drops  down  to  county  level  if  they  exist. 
At  times  they  do  not.  From  there  it  drops  down  to  section  levels, 
known  as  cities  and  its  suburban  areas.  From  there  it  drops  down 
to  clubs  or  cells.  These  are  small  groups.  They  comprise  member- 
ship in  specific  areas,  particularly  in  organizations.  From  that  it 
drops  down  to  neighborhood  groups  or  neighborhood  clubs.  From 
that  it  goes  into  individuals  who,  for  one  reason  or  another,  should  not 
be  placed  in  clubs  and/or  cells. 

Mr.  Arens.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  propose  to  leave  this  subject  matter 
in  the  interrogation  of  the  witness  to  get  on  to  another  subject  matter. 

I  wonder  if  any  member  of  the  committee  has  a  question  on  this 
subject  matter  before  we  get  on  to  the  next  subject  matter? 

Mr.  Doyle.  I  do,  Mr.  Chairman. 

Mr.  Moulder.  Mr.  Doyle. 

Mr.  Doyle.  Mr.  Witness,  I  call  your  attention  to  Exhibit  3.  I  don't 
have  it  before  me.  I  have  Exhibit  4  in  my  hands.  But  I  think  you 
mentioned  that  Exhibit  3  had  to  do  with  the  subject  matter  of  trade 
unions.     I  wonder  if  that  is  correct. 

Mr.  Moulder.  That  is  right. 

Mr.  Doyle.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman. 

Mr.  Penha.  Sir,  I  believe  in  order  to  expedite  matters,  if  you  will 
look  at  the  cover  of  that  exhibit — I  believe  that  is  the  yellow  covered 
one — on  the  first  page  underneath  the  yellow  page — you  will  see  the 
contents  of  both  speeches. 

Mr.  Doyle.  I  see  that.  It  is  true.  I  want  to  call  your  attention, 
for  the  purpose  of  brevity,  to  Exhibit  4.    On  page  5  is  this  language : 

We  want  to  emphasize  again :  the  trade  unions  are  the  key  to  effecting  a 
change  in  our  country  and  fulfilling  the  perspectives  for  1956.  *  *  *  We  urge 
that  meetings  of  trade  union  forces  be  organized  to  work  out  specific  proposals 
on  the  issues  discussed  in  this  letter. 

May  I  ask  you  this :  What  is  your  experience  as  to  whether  or  not 
the  Communist  Party  here  in  the  New  England  States  has  as  one  of 
its  prime  objectives  the  infiltration  of  trade  unionism  to  the  extent 
of  trying  to  control  it  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  There  is  no  doubt  whatsoever  in  my  mind,  sir. 

Mr.  Doyle.  I  know  the  record  shows  that  is  true  all  over  the  United 
States. 

Mr.  Penha.  I  am  basing  myself  on  experience  which  possibly,  I  be- 
lieve, may  come  further  in  the  questioning.  I  don't  know,  but  I  believe 
it  will. 

Mr.  Arens.  We  have  an  area  of  inquiry,  Mr.  Doyle,  on  that. 

Mr.  Doyle.  I  wish  to  say  that  all  the  hearings  which  I  attended 
as  a  member  of  this  committee  in  these  several  years  throughout  the 
United  States,  I  never  heard  a  former  Communist  member  testify  on 
that  subject  but  that  he  stated  that  a  Communist  in  the  trade  union 
is  a  Communist  before  he  is  a  trade  unioiiist.  In  other  words,  he 
tries  to  make  a  tool  out  of  trade  unionism  for  the  purpose  of  the  Com- 
munist Party  principles. 


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Mr.  Penha.  Sir,  lie  does  not  try.  He  lias  to.  That  is  part  ot 
party  discipline. 

Mr.  Doyle.  One  thing  more.  What  did  you  do  with  Exhibits  1. 
2,  3,  and  4  when  they  were  delivered  to  yon  ?    How  did  you  use  them  ? 

Mr.  Pexha.  They  were  used  in  clubs  for  purpose  of  discussions 
and  to  project  in  that  area  of  New  Bedford  certain  objectives  to  be 
carried  out. 

Mr.  Doyle.  Were  copies  made  of  them  or  not  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Sir,  in  sections,  a  section  organizer,  being  the  top  man, 
keeps  these  directives.  Pie  does  not  make  copies.  He  may  lend  them 
to  one  or  two  given  persons  for  a  specific  reason. 

JNIr.  Doyle.  I  see.    I  thank  you. 

Mr.  Kearney.  Will  the  gentleman  yield  there? 

In  other  words,  he  doesn't  trust  the  comrades? 

Mr.  Penha.  In  a  nutshell,  that  is  the  truth. 

Mr.  Arens.  Now,  Mr.  Chairman,  I  proposed  to  interrogate  the  wit- 
ness respecting  the  general  subject  matter  of  Communist  Party  fi- 
nances. And  I  am  sure  he  appreciates  the  necessity  for  brevity  and 
summary. 

May  I  first  of  all  ask  you,  in  general  what  are  the  sources  of  revenue 
of  the  Communist  Party  operations  in  the  United  States? 

Mr,  Penha.  They  are  many,  sir.  We  can  start  with  dues.  Dues  do 
produce  a  certain  amount  of  money  that  is  beneficial  to  the  party,  but 
it  represents  more  than  that.  It  represents  a  compulsion  by  the  party 
member  to  again  realize  that  he  is  under  party  discipline. 

Mr.  Arens.  Give  us  a  word,  if  you  please,  sir,  about  the  amount  of 
the  dues  and  the  nature  of  the  assessments. 

Mr.  Penha.  The  dues  may  vary  according  to  the  occupation  of  a 
given  Communist.  As  low  as  fifteen  cents  to  as  high  as  five  dollars, 
in  my  area,  a  month.    I  know  it  goes  higher  than  that  in  other  areas. 

Mr.  Arens.  And  how  is  the  amount  determined,  by  what  yard- 
stick? 

Mr.  Penha.  That  is  determined  by  the  section  organizer  in  confer- 
ence with  the  district  organizer. 

Mr.  xVrens.  Do  you  make  a  distinction  between  dues  and  assess- 
ments ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Absolutely,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  What  is  the  nature  of  the  difference? 

Mr.  Penha.  The  difference  is  that  we  have  assessments  in  the  Com- 
munist Party  for  one  purpose  only,  and  that  is  to  bring  into  the  minds 
of  the  party  members  that  there  is  something  very  important  to  be 
done  in  this  country.  One  of  the  angles  that  is  used — and  for  that 
very  fact  assessments  are  utilized — is  that  one  monthly  dues  payment 
is  assessed  to  a  Communist  Party  member,  regardless  of  rank,  to  be 
sent  to  the  South  for  purposes  of  infiltration. 

Mr.  Kearney.  May  I  interrupt,  Mv.  Chairman  ? 

Mr.  Moulder.  Mr.  Kearney. 

Mr.  Kearney.  Is  it  true  that  the  so-called  assessment  was  also  based 
upon  the  individual's  earnings? 

Mr.  Penha.  That  is  absolutely  true  to  a  certain  point,  sir. 

Mr.  Kearney.  Let  me  make  myself  clearer  if  I  can.  During  the  so- 
called  Hollywood  hearings  of  several  years  ago,  we  were  advised  by 
one  of  the  directors  in  Hollywood,  when  I  questioned  him  about  what 
he  meant  by  assessment,  that  he  w^as  assessed  five  percent  of  his  salary. 


COMMUNIST    ACTIVITIE'S    IN    THE    NEW    ENGLAND    AREA    2121 

And  I  asked  him  "What  was  yoiir  salary,"  and  he  said  "$5,000  a 
week." 

So  evidently  the  Communist  Party  did  rely  principally  upon  the 
capitalistic  system  of  the  country  in  order  to  attain  their  so-called 
dues  or  assessments,  because  you  can't  get  it  from  a  poor  devil  who  is 
out  of  work. 

Mr.  Penha,  The  party  bleeds  its  members  just  as  it  does  its  sympa- 
thizers and  fellow  travelers,  no  doubt  about  it.  So  what  I  wanted  to 
clarify  here,  sir,  on  the  question  of  dues,  when  I  said  that  the  section 
organizer,  in  conjunction  with  the  district  organizer,  determines  just 
what  are  the  moneys  to  be  received  from  each  and  every  Communist, 
is  that  invariably  the  Comnuniists  themselves  will  cry  they  have  tre- 
mendous expenses  in  many  conceivable  manners.  So  that,  therefore, 
we  take  it  on  the  basis  of  making  an  evaluation,  do  they  own  their 
home,  does  their  wife  work,  and  several  phases  of  that,  and  then  we 
say,  "According  to  your  salary  you  will  pay  so  much.  However,  you 
are  obliged  to  give  a  sustainer  every  month,  which  is  over  and  above 
your  dues." 

Mr.  Arens.  Now,  may  I  ask  you  about  Communist  Party  "angels" 
or  "angels"  wlio  contribute  to  the  Communist  Party?  Is  that  a  popu- 
lar terminolog}'  used  in  the  party  ranks  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  It  is,  and  it  is  ironic  that  the  party  is  the  only  group 
that  is  so  ruthless  and  atheist  and  anti-God  and  still  believes  in  angels. 

Mr.  Arens.  Can  you  tell  us  about  any  experiences  you  personally 
have  had  as  a  comrade  in  soliciting  and  procuring  funds  from  "angels" 
for  the  party  ? 

Mr.  Moulder.  When  you  refer  to  "angels"  you  mean  "financial  an- 
gels," I  assume. 

Mr.  Penha.  That  is  correct,  sir.  They  use  it  to  their  advantage  in 
using  the  terminology. 

Mr.  Arens.  Did  you  have  any  such  experience  and,  if  so,  could 
you  recount  them  on  this  record  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Yes. 

Mr.  Arens.  Please  do. 

Mr.  Penha.  We  had  "angels"  in  various  forms  and  degrees.  We 
had  one,  for  example,  in  the  from  of  INIaud  D'haze. 

Mr.  Arens.  Would  you  hesitate  right  there,  please,  sir. 

I  have  in  my  hand  the  will  of  Maud  D'haze  which  will  be  identified 
on  this  record  a  little  later  on. 

Tell  us  first  of  all  who  was  Maud  D'haze. 

Mr.  Penha.  Maud  D'haze  was  a  devoted  and  hard-core  Communist. 

Mr.  Arens.  Did  she  discuss  with  j^ou,  when  you  were  a  comrade,  the 
making  of  hei-  will  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Yes,  sir ;  she  did. 

Mr.  Arens.  Tell  us  briefly  about  that  incident. 

Mr.  Penha.  To  start  with,  at  several  times  she  would  have  raised 
the  question  of  leaving  her  moneys  and  estate  to  the  party;  that  she 
had  previous  wills  that  were  made  out  too  openly ;  and  that  at  this  time, 
she  felt  the  party  would  not  be  able  to  receive  it.  At  the  time  that  she 
prepared  hei-self  to  make  this  will,  she  was  sick  in  the  hospital.  I  saw 
her,  I  met  with  her;  and  slie  hnd  advised  tliat  I  become  part  of  the  will, 
that  is,  to  become  one  of  the  beneficiaries  of  the  will.  I  refused  at  that 
time.  I  explained  to  her  why.  She  accejited.  However,  she  held  me 
responsible  to  see  that  this  money  would  get  to  the  party. 


2122     COMMUISTTST    ACTIVITIEiS   IN    THE    NEW    ENGLAND    AREfA 

Mr.  Arens.  Tell  me — ^you  have  before  you  a  photostatic  copy  of  the 
will — amon^  the  beneficiaries  of  the  will  are  there  persons  who,  to 
your  certain  knowledge,  were  members  of  i  he  Communist  Party  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Well,  sir;  the  will  was  bequeathed  to  party  members 
only,  those  being  Otis  Hood,  Anne  Timpson,  Mary  Figueirido  and 
Louis  D.  Kushaff,  who  was  to  retain  the  use  of  the  liome  as  long  as 
he  lived. 

Mr.  Arens.  When  did  the  testator  pass  away  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  1953,  shortly  after  Mothers  Day. 

Mr.  Arens.  And  was  the  property  distributed  to  these  comrades  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  The  property  was  entirely  distributed  to  the  comrades 
with  the  exception  of  a  son  of  Maud  b}^  a  previous  marriage. 

Mr.  Arens.  What  was  the  approximate  total  value  of  the  estate? 

Mr.  Penha.  Cash  in  the  bank,  $14,000 ;  real  estate,  I  believe,  was  in 
the  neighborhood  of  $5,000  or  $6,000. 

Mr.  Arens.  And  was  the  real  estate  subsequently  transferred  by  the 
recipient  of  the  real  estate  via  the  will  to  some  other  persons  do  you 
know? 

Mr.  Penha.  Would  you  kindly  phrase  that  again,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Did  the  beneficiary  under  the  will  who  took  the  real 
estate  subsequently  deed  the  real  estate  away  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  And  to  whom  did  he  convey  it  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  To  the  Communist  Party  in  my  own  experience. 

Mr.  Arens.  I  don't  want  to  dwell  on  this  particular  item  further 
at  this  time,  but  I  should  like  to  ask  you  if  you  have  any  other  typical 
instances  of  the  devices  by  which  the  Communist  Party  has  enlarged 
its  coffers. 

Mr.  Penha.  There  are  several,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  You  spoke  a  moment  ago  about  the  property  going  to 
the  Communist  Party.  Upon  the  sale  of  the  real  estate,  the  proceeds  of 
the  property  went  to  the  Communist  Party,  is  that  correct? 

Mr.  Penha.  That  is  correct,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Was  there  any  instance  where  you  personally  solicited 
funds  from  people  of  wealth  who  contributed  money  which  found 
its  way  into  the  Communist  Party  coffers  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Tell  us  about  one  or  two  of  these  instances,  please. 

Mr.  Penha.  In  one  instance  Anne  Burlak  Timpson  came  to  my 
home  and  instructed  me  to  go  to  the  home  of  a  person  whom  she  stated 
to  be  a  Communist  in  the  Cape.  She  also  informed  me  that  this  com- 
rade, a  wealthy  comrade,  was  giving  a  thousand-dollar-a-year  sustainer 
to  the  New  York  Party.  It  was  felt  by  Anne  Burlak  that  it  was  only 
fair  and  just  that  this  comrade  should  continue  to  give  this  sustainer, 
but  also  should  give  something  to  Massachusetts. 

Mr.  Kearney.  Mr.  Chairman. 

Mr.  Moulder.  Mr.  Kearney  is  recognized.  He  wishes  to  ask  a 
question. 

Mr.  I^JEARNEY.  Just  to  go  back,  if  you  don't  mind,  on  the  questions 
pertaining  to  this  will.  I  understood  you  to  say  the  real  property  in 
this  will  was  transferred  to  the  Communist  Party. 

Mr.  Penha.  When  I  stated  to  the  Communist  Party,  I  meant  to  its 
members,  sir.     It  finally  got  into  the  party  itself. 


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Mr.  Kearney.  Now,  I  understood  you  further  to  say,  there  was 
$14,000  cash. 

Mr.  Penha.  That  is  correct,  sir. 

Mr.  Kearney.  Do  you  have  any  evidence  of  your  own  knowledge 
as  to  what  became  of  the  $14,000  cash,  as  to  whether  it  reached  the 
Communist  Party  or  not  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  I  do,  sir. 

Mr.  Kearney.  Did  it  reach  the  Communist  Party  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Absohitely  it  did,  sir.  I  would  say  that  it  will  take 
me  possibly  half  an  hour  to  describe  the  details  about  it,  but  I  took 
an  active  part  in  it. 

INIr.  Doyle.  May  I  ask  one  question  in  that  connection  ? 

Then  I  presume  what  must  have  happened  substantially  was  that 
these  four  individuals,  four  beneficiaries,  who  received  equal  shares 
of  the  $14,000  cash,  less  the  cost  of  administration,  although  they 
received  it  as  individuals,  they  turned  it  over  to  the  Communist 
Party? 

Mr.  Penha.  They  absolutely  turned  it  over  to  the  Communist 
Party,  sir,  because  I  was  responsible  in  the  New  Bedford  area  for 
two  of  the  recipients,  being  Mary  Figueirido  and  Louis  Dimitroff 
Kushaff. 

Mr.  Doyle.  They  were  not  named  as  trustees  in  any  way  for  the 
benefit  of  the  Communist  Party  in  the  will,  were  they  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  The  Communist  Party  was  not  mentioned  as  such. 

Mr.  Doyle,  Thank  you. 

Mr.  Arens.  The  executrix,  Mary  Figueirido  was  a  Communist 
and  is  a  Communist,  is  she  not  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  That  is  absolutely  correct,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Now  may  I  invite  your  attention  to  another  phase  of 
Communist  Party  finances  and  ask  you  to  what  extent  the  Commun- 
ists have  made  money  for  the  party  by  selling  items. 

Mr.  Penha.  There  have  been  various  methods.  One  of  them  I  shall 
present  at  this  time. 

Mr.  Arens.  You  are  now  displaying  to  the  committee  a  pen  and 
pencil  set  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  This  is  an  Eversharp  pen  and  pencil  set.  As  you  see, 
it  has  a  label  retailing  for  $8.75.  The  district,  according  to  Sidney 
Lipshires,  the  then  district  organizer,  informed  me  that  we  had 
in  the  district  1,000  sets  that  we  had  obtained.  We  were  to  sell  them 
not  for  $8.75  but  for  $5.  In  turn,  each  section  would  receive  out 
of  the  $5  for  each  set  sold,  $1.50.  Ironically,  that  would  not  stay 
in  the  section,  but  rather  it  would  be  credited  to  the  quota  for  the 
section  which  was  to  be  turned  over  to  the  district. 

Mr.  Arens.  Were  those  so  sold  in  accordance  with  that  plan? 

Mr.  Penha.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  May  I  ask  you  the  extent  to  which  the  coffers  of  the 
conspiracy  have  been  swollen  via  funds  contributed  to  what  are  gen- 
erally known  as  Communist  Party  fronts  or  other  organizations  con- 
trolled by  the  conspiracy  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Would  you  repeat  that  question,  please? 

Mr.  Arens.  Have  the  cofi'ers  of  the  conspiracy  itself  been  swollen 
by  money  contributed  into  the  coffers  of  the  party  via  front  groups, 
by  way  of  front  groups  ? 

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2124     COJiCMUlSTTST    ACTIVITIES    IN    THE    NEW    ENGK\ND    AREA 

Mr.  Peisha.  Yes,  sir. 

Mv.  Arens.  Give  us  just  a  word  on  that,  please,  sir,  without  con- 
suming more  than  a  minimum  of  time.  We  covered  so  much  with  you 
in  many,  many  hours  of  private  consultation  that  we  have  difliculty 
presenting-  the  highlights  in  a  brief  public  appearance. 

Mr.  Penha.  I  would  like  to  illustrate  first  the  case  of  Eulalia 
Figueiredo.  She  was  arrested.  The  party  set  forth  a  plan  in  order 
to  obtain  the  maximum  benefit  out  of  it.  This  M'ould  be  in  terms  of 
})ropaganda,  publicity,  and  finances.  Much  of  the  money  received 
for  Enlalia's  defense  was  turned  in  to  the  Communist  Party  and  not 
for  her  defense.  I  personally  received,  from  time  to  time,  many  sums 
which  I  had  to  turn  in. 

Mr.  Arens.  Now,  may  I  inquire,  have  organizations  which  have 
been  Communist  controlled  and  are  Communist  controlled,  such  as 
UE,  actually  paid  expenses  of  the  Communist  Party,  though  perhaps 
not  making  direct  financial  contributions  to  the  party? 

Mr.  Penha.  In  the  UE  I  would  like  to  illustrate  two  points  among 
others.  Time  does  not  permit  more.  One  is,  Douglas  Perry  as  a 
Connnunist  member  in  the  New  Bedford  area  and  a  UE  field  organ- 
izer was  instructed  to  have  a  so-called  bookshop  in  the  UE  local, 
which  would  have  strong  Left  works  but  not  openly  party  material, 
such  as  books  of  Foster,  but  nevertheless  books  on  the  case  of  the 
Rosenbergs,  Carl  Marzani's  book,  magazines  such  as  the  March  of 
Labor,  and  others.  Some  of  these,  the  local  had  agreed  to,  others 
they  did  not.    Doug  was  the  one  that  manipulated  that  phase  of  it. 

Another  way  that  Doug  would  handle  funds  would  be  that  when 
we  had  meetings  that  took  us  out  of  town,  whether  it  was  my  car  or 
the  one  given  by  Sidney  Lipshires,  the  payment  of  gas  and  oil  would 
be  taken  by  Doug  as  he  could  put  it  in  expenses  in  the  UE  local  as 
his  own  expenses. 

Mr.  MoiTLDER.  May  I  intervene  at  this  point?  I  wish  to  clear  the 
record.  On  the  face  of  the  record,  as  far  as  your  position  is  con- 
cerned, 3'ou  say  you  received  defense  funds  which  you  had  to  turn 
in.    You  mean  that  you  had  to  turn  it  in  where? 

Mr.  Penha.  I  had  to  turn  it  in  to  my  immediate  superior,  in  this 
case  being  a  district  official. 

Mr,  Moulder.  For  Communist  Party  purposes  and  not  for  the  de- 
fense of  the  person  for  whom  it  was  collected? 

Mr.  Pexha.  They  had  nothing  to  do  with  the  defense,  as  we  were 
credited  with  our  quota  in  the  end  of  the  year.  Each  section  has  a 
(]Uota  that  they  have  to  meet  in  order  to  bear  the  expenses  of  the 
district,  and  that  was  credited  towards  that  quota. 

Mr.  MouEDER.  I  understood  what  you  meant,  but  on  the  record, 
reading  on  the  face  of  it,  it  might  be  misunderstood. 

Mr.  Peniia.  I  understand.  Another  phase  relative  to  the  UE  is 
that  of  the  Massachusetts  Commission  on  Comnnmisin  wliich  had 
called  UE  on  finances  and  some  rank-and-file  members  before  execu- 
tive and  public  hearings.  We  were  informed  at  a  District  ^fetals 
Commission  meeting  which  was  held  somewhere  in  the  suburbs  of 
Boston — I  don't  recall  exactly  anymore  now  where,  but  I  believe  it 
was  Revere — that  one  of  the'UE  organizers,  Chai'les  Newell,  had  a 
period  before  the  executive  body.  He  had  made  a  poor  showing.  In- 
sofar as  the  l^arty  M-as  concerned,  he  Avould  have  been  a  threat  had  he 


COMMUNIST   ACTIVITIES    IN    THE    NEW    ENGLAND    AREA    2125 

appeared  before  a  public  hearing.  It  was  then  decided  and  acted 
upon  on  the  orders  of  Sidney  Lipshires,  the  district  director,  by  in- 
structing Doughis  Perry  and  Alex  Leith,  a  UE  organizer  and  Com- 
munist member,  to  put  the  necessary  pressure  in  the  UE  district  in 
the  form  of  having  Charley  NeAvell  sent  away,  transferred,  which  he 
subsequently  did.  He  went  to  California.  In  this  respect  the  party 
had  the  advantage  of  not  having  him  appear  before  a  public  hearing; 
and  simultaneously  on  the  question  of  funds,  too,  they  held  a  party 
for  him  to  which  numerous  people  were  invited,  a  sendotf  party,  from 
which  again  the  party  made  some  money. 

The  points  I  would  like  to  stress  here  are  two  very  important  ele- 
ments: 1.  That  here  is  a  clear-cut  indication,  proof,  call  it  what  you 
may,  of  the  Communist  Party  dominating  a  union ;  2.  That  it  is  a  fact 
that  union  paying  members  don't  know  what  is  going  on  with  their 
dues.  The}^  are  aiding  and  abetting  the  Communist  conspiracy.  It 
was  their  dues  money  that  sent  Charley  Newell  out  of  hei-e. 

Mr,  Arens.  Now  may  I  invite  your  attention  to  the  general  subject 
of  the  National  Textile  Commission  and  ask  you  to  proceed,  again  in 
summary  form,  to  give  us  the  crucial  facts  with  respect  to  that  entity. 

Mr.  Penha.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Aeens.  Mr.  Chairman,  may  I  suggest  a  few  minutes'  recess? 

Mr.  Moulder.  The  committee  will  stand  in  recess  for  a  period  of 
five  minutes. 

(A  brief  recess  was  taken.) 

Mr.  Moulder.  The  committee  will  be  in  order. 

The  Chair  is  pleased  to  announce  that  our  colleague,  Robert  Mcin- 
tosh of  Michigan,  a  member  of  the  committee,  is  present. 

Mr.  Arens.  Eeady,  Mr.  Chairman  ? 

Mr.  Moulder.  Ready  to  proceed,  Mr.  Arens. 

Mr.  Arens.  Now  may  I  invite  your  attention  to  the  general  subject 
of  the  National  Textile  Conunission  of  the  Comnumist  Party,  asking 
you  to  give  us  first  identification  of  that  organization,  something  of 
its  functions  and  activities,  particularly  in  the  New  England  area, 
Tf  ith  special  reference  to  your  own  participation  in  its  work. 

Mr.  Penha.  Well,  sir,  before  I  commence  on  this  subject,  I  would 
like  to  raise  in  my  opinion  a  pertinent  point — and  that  is  not  for  the 
information  of  the  committee,  which  I  am  well  aware  that  you  are 
acquainted  with,  but  rather  particulai-ly  to  the  press — and  tliat  is,  in 
speaking  about  the  National  Textile  Commission,  the  feeling  is  com- 
mon that  the  textile  industry  as  a  whole  in  New  England  is  a  dying 
industry.  The  objectives  in  the  program  and  the  policies  laid  down 
by  the  National  Committee  in  reference  to  tlie  National  Textile  Com- 
mission bear  out  the  importance  of  textiles. 

Now,  in  reference  to  the  members  of  the  National  Textile  Com- 
mission  

Mr.  Arens.  What  is  the  National  Textile  Conunission,  first  of  all, 
please  sir  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  The  National  Textile  Commission  is  a  top  national 
organization  organized  by  the  National  Committee  of  the  Comnumist 
Party  for  the  purposes  of  brin.ging  about  further  colonization  and 
infiltration  in  textiles,  mainly  to  agitate  the  masses,  create  footholds 
in  several  areas,  particularly  the  South;  the  sending  of  colonizers  in 
order  to  reach  the  minds  of  the  masses,  as  textiles  in  the  South  is  a  basic 


2126    coM]vixnsnsT  AcnvrriES  m  the  new  England  area 

and  key  industry.  The  party  is  very  interested  and  makes  extensive 
research  and  plans  when  it  endeavors  to  get  into  any  field. 

Mr.  Arens.  How  potent  is  the  work  of  the  National  Textile  Com- 
mission? How  effective  from  the  standpoint  of  the  Commmiist 
Party? 

Mr.  Penha.  It  is  very  effective.  That  is  why  I  illustrated  the  fact 
that  the  party  does  a  great  deal  of  research  before  it  establishes  any 
type  of  coimnission,  department,  or  what  have  you,  on  a  national  level. 

]VIr.  Aeens.  Were  you  the  New  England  delegate  to  one  of  the 
principal  meetings  of  the  Textile  Commission  in  New  York  City? 

Mr.  Peniia.  I  attended  the  National  Textile  Commission  meeting  in 
New  York  City  as  a  new  England  delegate.  I  was  instructed  by  the 
district  organizer,  Sidney  Lipshires. 

Mr.  Arens.  Wlien? 

Mr.  Penha.  Approximately  May  or  June  of  1955.  At  the  time 
that  I  went  there,  it  was  subject  to  the  other  members  of  the  National 
Textile  Commission  to  either  accept  or  reject  me  as  the  delegate  from 
New  England.  This  was  only  a  matter  of  more  or  less  policy  within 
the  framework  of  the  commission.  Actually  they  knew  they  had  to 
accept  me. 

Mr.  Arens.  Was  your  attendance  at  this  session  an  open  attendance, 
or  did  you  use  certain  secretive  devices  to  arrive  at  the  ultimate 
destination  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Well,  sir,  I  attended  approximately  3  or  4  meetings  in 
New  York  City. 

Mr.  Arens.  Give  us  a  word  about  them,  please,  sir. 

Mr.  Penha.  I  shall  start  with  the  first  one. 

I  was  given  by  Sidney  Lipshires  a  note  which  instructed  me  where 
to  go  in  New  York  City,  the  date,  the  time,  the  place,  and  the  method 
of  recognition.  I  was  to  memorize  this  and  destroy  it.  I  proceeded 
to  New  York  City;  and,  as  prearranged  with  the  district  organizer 
in  New  England,  I  had  to  take  several  security  measures.  Among 
those  was  that  of  not  going  to  the  place  of  meeting  directly.  I  took 
various  types  of  transportation  units.  In  particular,  I  recall,  I 
went  in  a  subway,  and  this  is  the  instruction  given  to  me  to  follow. 
I  entered  the  last  section  of  the  subway  and  at  a  designated  point  I 
got  off,  waited  until  the  door  was  just  about  to  close,  and  put  some 
pressure  on  it  to  open  it  to  get  out.  In  this  way  I  would  be  able  to 
offset  anyone  that  would  be  following  me.  At  the  same  time  I  could 
have  a  clear  view  of  the  platform  in  the  subway. 

Following  that  I  made  various  changes  in  subways,  using  the  same 
method.  I  used  taxis  and  buses.  I  lost  many  hours  in  reaching  my 
point  of  destination.  When  I  reached  there  I  had  with  me  a  Popular 
Mechanics  magazine.  The  person  I  was  to  meet  would  have  the  same. 
At  that  particular  time  and  locale  we  were  to  be  there.  I  don't  recall 
the  exact  words  that  one  was  to  say  to  the  other,  but  they  were  in 
code  form.  Subsequent  to  that  we  assured  ourselves  that  we  were  both 
the  right  parties,  and  then  from  there  we  proceeded  to  a  secret  liome 
to  have  our  first  meeting  of  the  National  Textile  Commission. 

Mr.  Arens.  Tell  us  who  are  now,  to  your  certain  knowledge,  the 
key  people  of  the  National  Textile  Commission  of  the  Communist 
conspiracy  in  the  United  States. 

Mr.  Penha.  I  shall  start  with  the  coordinator.  The  coordinator 
was  the  person  that  would  be  in  contact  with  the  National  Trade  Com- 


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mission  and  the  National  Committee.  It  was  here  in  these  groups 
that  he  would  receive  his  directives  and  carry  them  through.  His 
name  is  Fred  Handman.  At  the  time  he  was  residing  in  New  York 
City.  His  code  name — we  all  had  code  names  at  the  meeting,  strange 
as  it  seems,  being  a  secret  meeting  of  bona  fide  members,  hard-core 
members,  we  still  were  not  supposed  to  know  each  other.  His  code 
name  Avas  Tom.    I  beg  your  pardon.    His  code  name  was 

Mr.  Arens.  His  code  name  was  Fred,  was  it  not  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Was  Fred. 

Mr.  Arens.  But  his  true  name  was  Robert,  was  it  not  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Yes.    I  am  glad  you  made  that  correction. 

Mr.  Arens.  I  want  to  get  it  straight  on  that. 

Mr.  Penha.  His  true  name  was  Robert  Handman. 

Mr.  Arens.  And  his  code  name  was  Fred,  is  that  correct? 

Mr.  Penha.  That  is  correct. 

Mr.  Arens.  And  he  is  head  of  the  National  Textile  Commission  and 
coordinated  with  the  National  Committee  of  the  Communist  Party,  is 
that  correct? 

Mr.  Penha.  That  is  correct. 

Mr.  Arens.  You  knew  him  in  these  secret  meetings  as  Fred,  by  his 
code  name,  is  that  correct  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  That  is  correct,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  And  you  have  since  identified  him  as  Robert  Handman 
by  certain  security  devices,  including  photographs,  is  that  correct  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Tliat  is  correct.  The  intelligence  agencies  have  pro- 
vided me  with  proper  methods  with  which  I  was  able  to  recognize 
a  person  and  identify  him  by  his  true  name. 

Mr.  Arens.  And  there  is  no  question  in  your  mind  whatsoever, 
while  you  are  under  oath,  that  this  person  whom  you  knew  as  head  of 
the  National  Textile  Commission  under  the  code  name  of  Fred  is  in 
truth  and  fact  Robert  Handman  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  There  is  none  whatsoever,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  You  will  have  an  opportunity  in  another  day  or  two 
to  make  further  identification  of  him  because  he  is  under  subpena 
likewise. 

Mr.  Penha.  Yes. 

Mr.  Arens.  Now  would  you  kindly  proceed  to  give  us  another  name. 

Mr.  Penha.  The  next  person,  I  believe  his  code  name  was  Fred 
from  New  Jersey. 

Mr.  Arens.  Was  that  Sheldrick  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  I  did  not  know  his  name,  that  is,  his  true  name,  until 
after,  I  believe,  the  third  meeting  we  held.  We  came  out  together 
for  just  about  3  or  4  minutes,  and  at  that  time  he  showed  me  a  card 
from  the  post  office  stating  that  his  mail  was  going  to  be  under  sur- 
veillance for  the  next  30  days.  He  had  obtained  this  from  a  friend 
in  the  Post  Office  Department. 

Mr.  Arens.  Is  this  George  Sheldrick  now  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  At  that  time  when  he  showed  me  this,  I  noticed  his 
name ;  and  subsequently  in  my  reports  to  the  intelligence  agency  with 
which  I  was  working,  it  was  definitely  established  as  being  George 
Sheldrick  from  New  Jersey. 

Mr.  Arens.  And  was  his  code  name  Jack  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  I  am  quite  sure  it  was  Jack. 


2128     COMMUNIST    ACTIVITIES    m    THE    NEW    ENOLAND    AREA 

Mr.  Arens.  All  right,  sir.  Is  there  another  person  ^-ho,  to  your 
certain  kno^Yledge,  is  on  the  National  Textile  Commission  of  the 
Communist  operation  in  tlie  United  States  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  There  was  another  person  representing  the  South, 
particularl}'  the  areas  of  North  and  South  Carolina  and  Virginia. 
This  person — I  found  his  true  identity  to  be  William  Evans. 

Mr.  Arens.  Was  his  code  name  Bill  ? 

Mr.  Pexiia.  Yes,  his  code  name  was  Bill. 

Mr.  Arexs.  And  you  ascertained  to  a  moral  certainty  that  Bill  is 
Bill  Evans,  William  Evans,  by  certain  security  devices  which  we  will 
not  discuss  on  a  public  record.    Is  that  correct? 

Mr.  Peniia.  No,  sir.  I  would  not  say  that  in  the  case  of  Evans. 
I  went  down  South  to  the  Carolinas  on  a  mission  of  the  party,  and 
at  that  time  the  person  that  Avas  to  assist  me  was  Bill  Evans,  and 
that  is  liow  I  found  his  true  identity. 

Mr.  Arens.  He  is  the  same  person  who  served  with  you  in  New 
York  City  on  the  National  Textile  Commission  of  the  Communist 
Party.     Is  that  correct  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  All  these  persons  Avere  delegates  from  various  areas, 
members  of  the  National  Textile  Connnission. 

Mr.  Arens.  But,  specifically,  Bill  Evans  was  one  of  those  persons. 
Is  that  correct  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  There  is  no  doubt  in  my  mind. 

Mr.  Arens.  Now  tell  us  just  a  word  about  this  trip. 

Mr.  Penha.  Incidentally,  if  I  may? 

Mr.  Arens.  Excuse  me.     Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Penha.  While  we  are  on  identification,  no  one  knew  who  I  was 
at  the  time,  too.  I  used  the  code  name  of  Tom.  And  none  of  the 
other  members  in  the  commission  were  aware  what  my  true  name  was 
or  wlieve  I  came  from  in  New  England. 

Mr.  Arens.  Now  tell  us  about  tliis  trip  that  you  made  to  the  South, 
as  a  member  of  the  National  Textile  Commission  of  Communist 
operation.     First  of  all,  where  did  you  go  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  I  went  to  North  and  South  Carolina. 

Mr.  Arens.  What  year,  please,  sir  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  This  was  approximately  September  of  1955. 

Mr.  Arens.  Who  paid  for  your  trip  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  The  expenses  were  incurred  by  the  Communist  Party. 
I  was  given  $100  by  the  district  organizer,  Sidney  Lipshires. 

Mr.  Arens.  What  was  the  purpose  of  your  trip  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Tlie  purpose  of  the  trip  was,  during  one  of  tlio  Na- 
tional Textile  Commission  meetings,  it  was  felt  that  textiles  in  New 
England  had  a  lot  to  contribute  to  the  program  that  the  National 
Tcxile  Commission  had  for  the  South,  the  textile  industry.  As  such, 
it  was  recommended  at  that  meeting  that  I  be  delegated  to  go  to  the 
.  South  for  the  purposes  of  making  observations  as  to  Avhat  were  the 
conditions  and  wliat  were  areas  into  Avhich  colonizers  could  be  sent,  to 
see  how  the  local  areas  were  operating  in  tlie  textile  industries,  to 
meet  with  colonizers  that  had  been  sent  there  in  previous  years,  to 
give  a  full  report  on  the  organizational  setup  of  the  various  sections 
that  I  Avent  into. 

Mr.  Arens.  Now  may  I  invite  your  attention  to  this  operation  in 
Durham,  North  Carolina?  To  your  certain  knowledge  were  Com- 
munist Party  colonizers  sent  to  that  area  ? 


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Mr,  Penha.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Can  you  tell  us  the  names  of  the  principal  colonizers 
who  were  sent  there  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  One  was  Oscar  Berland. 

Mr.  Arens.  Was  he  from  New  York  ? 

Mr.  Peniia.  He  is  originally  from  New  York  State. 

Mr.  Arens.  To  your  certain  knowledge  is  he  a  Communist  Paity 
colonizer? 

Mr.  Penha.  He  is  a  Communist  Party  colonizer ;  yes. 

Mr.  Arens.  Is  there  another  person  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  There  is  Marge  Spurny. 

Mr.  Arens.  Where  was  she  from  originally  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  I  believe  she  was  originally  from  New  Jersey.  Inci- 
dentally she,  I  found  later,  was  a  cousin  of  Geoffrey  White. 

Mr.  Arens.  Was  she  to  your  certain  knowledge  a  Communist  Party 
colonizer  who  was  sent,  pursuant  to  your  recommendations,  into  the 
Southland? 

Mr.  Penha.  Not  on  my  recommendations.  She  had  already  been 
in  the  South  when  I  got  there. 

Mr.  Arens.  I  see.     All  right.     Is  there  another  name  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  There  was  a  fellow  by  the  name  of  William  Robertson. 
He  was  from  Virginia. 

Mr.  Arens.  Was  he  a  Communist  Party  colonizer? 

Mr.  Penha.  Absolutely,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Where  was  he  sent? 

Mr.  Penha.  He  was  sent,  I  believe,  to  Erwin  Mills  in  Durham. 

Mr.  Arens.  North  Carolina  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Yes,  sir;  in  North  Carolina. 

Mr.  Arens.  Is  there  another  name  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Nat,  Nathaniel  Bond. 

Mr.  Arens.  Did  he  have  an  alias  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Yes,  he  did. 

Mr.  Arens.  Was  it  Joe  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  His  alias  was  Joe,  that  is  absolutely  correct.  I  would 
like  just  to  make  a  little  emphasis  on  why  there  was  an  alias  with 
him.  He  was  a  Negro,  and  the  party  felt  that  it  would  be  rather 
strange  for  white  comrades  to  meet  with  Negroes;  and  in  order  to 
protect  both  the  white  comrades  and  the  Negro,  it  was  felt  that  code 
names  should  be  established. 

Mr.  Arens.  Was  he  to  your  certain  knowledge  a  Communist  Party 
colonizer  who  was  sent  into  Durham,  North  Carolina  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  From  what  I  gathered  while  there,  which  I  believe  I 
reported  when  I  came  back,  he  is  a  native  of  one  of  the  Southern 
States,  but  he  was  a  colonizer. 

Mr.  Arens.  Is  there  another  person  ?  May  I  suggest  the  name  of 
Ella  Irvine  Matthews  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  There  was  a  couple  that  came  to  Durham  after  I  came 
back  from  various  trips  that  I  made— I  believe  on  the  weekend  that  I 
was  there — a  couple  by  the  name  of  William  Matthews  and  Ella  Le- 
vine  Matthews,  a  young  couple  sent  as  colonizers  from  New  York. 

Mr.  Arens.  So  this  record  may  be  clear,  j'ou  have  on  some  instances 
used  the  word  "colonizers"  rather  than  "Communist  Party  colonizers." 
When  you  used  this  word  "colonizers"  in  each  and  every  instance  did 
you  intend  to  encompass  "Communist  Party  colonizers"  ? 


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Mr.  Penha.  Absolutely,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Now,  is  there  another  j)erson  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  In  the  Durham  section? 

Mr.  Arens.  Yes,  sir.  May  I  suggest  the  name  of  Jerome  Van 
Camp  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  xVrens.  Give  us  a  ^Yord  about  him,  please,  sir. 

Mr.  Penha.  Jerome  A-^an  Camp,  I  believe,  was  also  a  Southerner 
from  some  other  segment  of  that  area ;  and  he  had  been  sent  into  one 
of  the  major  plants  in  Durham.     I  believe  it  was  the  Erwin  Mills. 

Mr.  Arens.  Is  there  another  name,  please,  sir?  Mary  Robertson — 
may  I  suggest  her  name  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Mary  Eobertson,  the  wife  of  William  Robertson. 

Mr.  Arens.  And  a  word  about  her,  please,  sir. 

Mr.  Penha.  She  was  a  colonizer.  At  the  time  I  arrived  there, 
she  was  in  a  different  type  of  occupation  because  of  the  fact  that  like 
a  few  others,  as  a  result  of  this  committee  having  been  there  and  done 
an  excellent  job,  they  found  themselves  outside  of  their  working  base. 

Mr.  Arens.  When  you  say  "this  committee,"  you  are  alluding  to 
the  House  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  That  is  correct,  sir.  As  a  result,  she  was  working  as 
a  technician  in  the  Duke  University  or  Duke  Hospital,  within  the  cam- 
pus of  Duke  University.  Presently,  or  to  my  last  information  I 
received,  she  has  been  living  in  Chicago. 

Mr.  Arens.  Now  may  I  invite  your  attention  to — 

Mr.  Penha.  I  just  would  like  to  raise  one  thing  before  going  into 
other  names  of  other  areas.  These  people  that  I  mention — I  think 
it  is  very  important  at  this  time  to  state  that  these  are  not  just  plain 
rank-and-file  Communists.  These  are  experts,  hard-core  Communists, 
very  zealous,  and  adherents  to  party  discipline  at  all  times,  and  they 
are  equipped  by  and  large  with  college  degrees,  starting  from  bachelors 
to  masters,  most  everyone. 

Mr.  Arens.  Of  course  when  they  get  into  the  area  they  take  menial 
jobs,  do  they  not,  and  fail  to  reveal,  or  hide  the  college  education  they 
have  had.     Is  that  not  true? 

Mr,  Penha.  This  is  not  only  happening  in  the  South  but  also  in 
the  North.  Their  occupational  and  educational  background  is  com- 
pletely omitted.  Fictitious  backgrounds  are  established  because  they 
feel  they  would  never  get  a  job  if  they  put  down  their  true  back- 
ground. Any  sane  employer  would  say,  "Wliy  should  you  become  a 
cleaner  or  what-have-you  when  you  have  a  bachelor's  or  master's 
degree?" 

Mr.  Arens.  Now  may  I  invite  your  attention  to  the  Winston-Salem 
area  and  ask  you,  on  the  basis  of  your  background  and  experience 
and  operation  as  a  member  of  the  National  Textile  Commission,  to  tell 
us  the  names  of  persons  who,  to  your  certain  knowledge,  in  the  last  two 
or  three  years  have  been  Communist  Party  colonizers  in  the  Winston- 
Salem,  North  Carolina,  vicinity. 

Mr.  Penha.  Warren  Williams  who  is  also  the  section  organizer  for 
Winston-Salem  area. 

Mr.  Arens.  What  plant  is  he  working  in  there,  do  you  know  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  I  don't  recall  at  the  present.     I  did  know. 

Mr.  Arens.  Is  there  another  name  ?  How  about  his  wife  ?  Is  Re- 
becca Williams  his  wife? 


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Mr.  Penha.  Rebecca  Williams.    Yes ;  his  wife. 

Mr.  Arens.  Is  she  likewise  a  colonizer  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  I  would  not  classify  her  as  a  colonizer. 

Mr.  Arens.  Do  you  know  her  as  a  comrade  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  I  know  her  as  a  leading  comrade  in  the  area. 

Mr.  Arens.  George  Van  Camp  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  I  was  just  going  to  bring  up  George  Van  Camp,  an- 
other colonizer.     It  is  strange 

Mr.  Arens.  These  are  all  m  the  Winston-Salem  area  now  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  These  are  all  Winston-Salem.  It  is  rather  strange  for 
the  average  person  to  know  of  this,  but  it  is  nothing  new  or  strange 
in  the  party,  that  George  Van  Camp,  again  a  college  graduate,  pursued 
his  studies  in  a  college  which  I  don't  recall  the  name  of  in  the  religious 
life.  So,  therefore,  I  want  to  establish  the  point  of  how  the  party 
operates.  I  mean  that  is  the  important  thing.  Here  is  a  man  that 
spent  several  years  and  on  paper  it  meant  one  thing,  but  in  practice  it 
was  another. 

Mr.  Arens.  Betty  Van  Camp? 

Mr.  Penha.  Betty  Van  Camp,  wife  of  George  Van  Camp,  she 
is  a  member  of  the  Section  Committee  of  Winston-Salem. 

Mr.  Arens.  Was  she  likewise  a  colonizer  in  the  Winston-Salem  area  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  I  don't  recall. 

Mr.  Arens.  Did  you  know  her  as  a  comrade  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  I  had  secret  meetings  with  her,  too. 

Mr.  Arens.  As  a  comrade  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  As  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party.  I  would  like 
to  point  out  here  that  the  people  that  I  am  referring  to  during  my  trip 
in  the  South  were  all  Communists ;  because  of  the  very  fact  that  my 
mission  was  a  secret  mission,  no  one  was  supposed  to  know.  I  was 
only  supposed  to  meet  hard-core  Communists,  trusted  members. 

Mr.  Arens.  Karl  Korstad  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Karl  Korstad  was  in  charge  of  the  High  Point  Indus- 
trial Commission,  which  is,  I  believe,  some  25  miles  from  Winston- 
Salem. 

Mr.  Arens.  Ruth  Van  Camp  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Ruth  Van  Camp  today  is  Ruth  Van  Camp  Evans.  She 
has  married  Bill  Evans,  whom  we  have  reported.  I  would  like  to 
just  illustrate  a  point  here  again  of  party  finances.  When  I  arrived 
there  and  after  being  through  several  areas  and  I  landed  in  Winston- 
Salem,  that  day  or  the  previous  day  Ruth  Van  Camp  arrived  from 
Florida.  She  had  been  sent  to  Florida  by  the  State  apparatus  of  the 
North  Carolina  Party  for  the  purposes  of  establishing  residence  and 
obtaining  a  divorce  in  order  to  marry  Bill  Evans.  The  party  felt 
that  both  of  them  could  do  a  much  more  effective  job  if  they  were  mar- 
ried.    The  matter  of  finances  didn't  mean  anything  in  this  case. 

Mr.  Arens.  How  about  the  matter  of  morals?  Did  it  mean  any- 
thing? 

Mr.  Penha.  I  raised  the  question  that,  as  far  as  I  knew,  since  she  had 
been  divorced  relatively  a  very,  very  short  time  that  if  she  did  get 
married  in  Florida,  and  then  they  came  back  to  Carolina  to  function, 
they  would  be  subject  to  the  laws  of  Carolina,  and  they  would  not  be 
considered  married.  They  were  willing  to  take  that  risk.  The  party 
policy  was  the  main  thing  they  had  to  carry  out. 


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Mr.  Arexs.  Frances  Korstad  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Frances  Korstad  is  the  Avife  of  Karl.  She  is  also  a 
member  of  the  High  Point  Industrial  Commission. 

Mr.  Arens.  In  North  Carolina  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  In  North  Carolina,  I  may  add  that  Karl  Korstad  is 
considered  one  of  the  most  able  theoreticians  of  that  area  in  North 
Carolina. 

Mr.  Arens.  Eugene  Feldman  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Eugene  Feldman  is  a  colonizer  who  came  from  Ala- 
bama to  Carolina.  However,  his  native  place  was  not  Alabama  either. 
It  was  some  other  state  in  the  Union.  Incidentally,  he  used  to  teach 
Sunday  School  in  the  synagogue  in  the  area  there  at  the  same  time. 

Mr.  Arens.  Now  I  should  like  to  leave  the  National  Textile  Com- 
mission as  a  subject  and  invite  your  attention  specifically  to  the  sub- 
ject of  Communist  Party  underground  operations.  May  I  ask,  first 
of  all,  who  are  now,  to  your  certain  knowledge,  the  leaders  of  the 
Communist  Part}^  underground  in  this  area  ? 

Mr.  Chairman,  I  respectfully  suggest,  in  view  of  the  fact  that  we 
have  approximately  6  other  witnesses  who  were  subpenaed  to  appear 
today  and  this  witness  has  such  a  tremendous  amount  of  information, 
that  we,  if  it  meets  with  the  approval  of  the  committee,  suspend  with 
this  witness  at  this  time  in  order  to  get  along  with  our  very  heavy 
schedule.  In  the  next  several  days  while  we  are  here  we  can  resume 
with  this  witness.  He  can  be  available  at  the  committee's  pleasure, 
and  then  we  will  be  able  to  get  into  other  subjects  with  him. 

Mr.  Doyle.  The  witness  is  under  subpena. 

Mr.  Arens.  I  remember  suggesting  that  there  be  a  record  entry 
made  that  he  is  under  continued  subpena.     Yes.  sir. 

Mr,  MoTTLDER.  The  record  will  show  the  witness  is  under  subpena, 
and  the  subpena  will  continue  in  full  force  and  effect.  Having  con- 
ferred with  my  colleagues  on  the  committee,  we  have  decided  that 
you  will  be  temporarily  excused,  Mr.  Penha,  as  a  witness,  subject  to 
recall  at  any  time  during  the  course  of  the  hearings  here.  We  would 
suggest  that  you  remain  in  the  hearing  room  to  hear  testimony  of 
other  witnesses  who  are  now  about  to  be  called. 

The  record  will  also  show  that,  in  accordance  and  pursuant  to  laws 
and  the  rules  of  the  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities,  Chair- 
man Francis  E.  Walter  has  appointed  a  subcommittee  for  purposes  of 
conducting  hearings  here  in  Boston,  composed  of  Representative 
Clyde  Doyle,  of  California ;  Representative  Edwin  E.  Willis,  of  Louis- 
iana; Representative  Bernard  W.  Kearney,  of  New  York:  Represent- 
ative Robert  J.  Mcintosh,  of  Michigan;  and  myself,  Morgan  M. 
Moulder,  as  chairman  of  this  subcommittee.  At  this  time  Mi'.  Doyle, 
of  California,  Mr.  Kearney,  of  New  York,  and  Mr.  Mcintosh,  of 
Michigan,  are  present,  and  I,  as  chairman  of  the  subcommittee,  am 
]:)resent,  thereby  constituting  a  quorum  of  the  committee. 

We  wish  to  commend  you,  Mr.  Penha,  for  the  service  which  you 
have  rendered  to  your  country  and  your  cooperation  with  this  com- 
mittee, for  the  great  work  that  you  have  performed  in  preserving 
our  American  way  of  life  and  in  our  fight  to  protect  our  security  and 
American  way  of  life  from  the  Godless  slavery  of  communism.  We 
realize  the  sacrifice,  the  i)ersonal  sacrifice,  and  the  hard  work  you 
have  performed  as  a  loyal  American  citizen,  in  giving  us  the  informa- 


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tion  which  you  have  given  to  us  to  enable  us,  as  members  of  Congress, 
to  enact  legislation  for  the  protection  and  security  of  our  great  Nation. 

We  are  deeply  grateful  to  you  for  your  great  service  to  our  coun- 
try, to  the  Congress,  and  to  this  committee.     Thank  you  very  much. 

Mr.  Penha.  Thank  you,  sir. 

jNIr.  Moulder.  You  will  be  recalled  for  testimony  which  we  expect 
to  hear  from  you  during  this  week. 

Mr.  Penha.  Thank  you. 

Mr.  Moulder.  Thank  you  very  much. 

Mr.  Doyle.  I  suggest,  Mr.  Chairman,  that  we  emphasize  that  this 
witness  is  being  continued  under  subpena  from  the  United  States 
Confress  witli  the  full  force  and  benetit  of  all  the  Federal  depart- 
ments of  law  enforcement  and  protection  behind  it. 

Mr.  Moulder.  That  is  true. 

Mr.  Pekha.  Thank  you.     It  is  a  comfort. 

Mr.  Moulder.  Thank  you.  We  think  you  are  a  very  line,  loyal 
American  citizen,  and  we  appreciate  what  you  have  done.  You  are 
excused  temporarily  as  a  witness,  Mr.  Penha. 

As  I  have  stated  a  quorum  of  the  committee  is  present;  and  I  ob- 
serve that  we  have  an  Irishman  from  California,  Mr.  Doyle,  on  my 
left  and  another  Irishman,  Mr.  Kearney,  of  New  York,  on  my  right 
and  a  Scotsman,  Mr.  Mcintosh,  on  my  left  on  the  other  end. 

Mr.  Moulder.  Call  the  next  witness. 

Mr.  Arens.  Mr.  Chairman,  the  next  witness  is  Ralph  Lofsky. 

Kindly  come  forward  and  remain  standing  while  the  chairman 
administers  an  oath  to  you. 

Mr.  Moulder.  Do  you  solemnly  swear  that  the  testimony  which  you 
are  about  to  give  before  the  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities 
will  be  the  trutli,  the  whole  truth,  and  nothing  but  the  truth,  so  help 
you  God? 

Mr.  LoFSKT.  I  do,  Mr.  Chairman. 

TESTIMONY  OF  RALPH  C.  LOFSKY^ 

Mr.  Arens.  Kindly  identify  yourself  by  name,  residence,  and 
occupation. 

Mr.  LorsKY.  May  I  ask  a  question  first  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  If  you  please,  sir. 

Mr.  LoFSKY.  I  think  I  understood  the  chairman  correctly  at  the 
beginning  of  the  liearings  saying  that  no  pictures  would  be  taken. 

Mr.  Moulder.  The  witness  is  correct,  and  photographers  and  those 
who  may  be  taking  pictures  will  desist  and  refrain  from  taking  pho- 
tographs of  the  witness  while  he  is  testifying,  or  at  any  time  during 
the  course  of  his  testimony  before  this  committee. 

Mr.  LoFSKY.  Thank  you,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Kindly  identify  yourself  by  name,  residence,  and 
occupation. 

Mr.  LoFSKY.  My  name  is  Ralph  Lofsky. 

Mr.  Arens.  Would  you  kindly  keep  your  voice  up,  sir? 

Mr.  LoFSKY.  I  am  sorry.  My  name  is  Ralph  Lofsky.  I  live  in 
Providence,  Rhode  Island,  and  I  operate  a  small  jewelry  factory  in 
Rhode  Island. 


1  Voucher  for  witness  fee  signed  Ralph  "C."  Lofsky. 


2134     COMMUNIST    ACl^IVTHES    IN    THE    NEW    ENGLAND    AREA 

Mr.  Arens.  You  are  appearing  today,  Mr.  Lofsky,  in  response  to 
a  subpena  which  was  served  upon  you  by  the  House  Committee  on 
Un-American  Activities  ? 

Mr.  LoFSKT.  That  is  correct,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  You  do  not  have  counsel  ? 

Mr.  LorsKY.  No,  sir,  I  do  not. 

Mr.  Arens.  You  understand  you  have  the  privilege  of  counsel 
under  the  rules  of  this  committee? 

Mr.  LoFSKY.  I  understand  that,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Mr.  Lofsky,  how  long  have  you  been  a  resident  of 
Providence,  Ehode  Island  ? 

Mr.  LoFSKY.  All  my  life,  sir.  Well,  there  were  a  few  short  inter- 
ruptions. 

Mr.  Arens.  I  beg  your  pardon  ? 

Mr.  LoFSKY.  There  were  two  periods  in  which  I  wasn't  a  resident. 
But  essentially  all  my  life. 

Mr.  Arens.  Mr.  Lofsky,  we  have  subpenaed  you  here  before  this 
committee  because  it  is  our  understanding  that  you  have  information 
which  you  could  contribute  to  the  fund  of  knowledge  of  this  com- 
mittee so  that  it  can  legislate,  or  recommend  legislation,  with  refer- 
ence to  the  Communist  operation  in  the  United  States.  Particularly 
we  understand  you  have  information  respecting  finances  and  financial 
operations  of  the  Communist  Party.  Do  you  have  information,  sir, 
respecting  financing  of  the  Communist  Party  in  the  New  England 
area  ? 

Mr.  LoFSKY.  I  must  respectfully  decline  that  question,  on  the  basis 
of  my  privilege  of  self-incrimination. 

Mr.  Arens.  Do  you  honestly  apprehend,  sir,  that  if  you  told  this 
committee  truthfully  such  information  as  you  possess  respecting 
financing  of  the  Communist  Party  in  the  New  England  area,  you 
would  be  supplying  information  which  might  be  used  against  you  in  a 
criminal  proceeding  ? 

Mr.  LoFSKY.  Sir,  may  I  say  this:  I  am  not  an  attorney.  I  don't 
mean  to  be  humorous,  but  the  reason  primarily  that  I  don't  have  an 
attorney  is  that  I  didn't  have,  and  didn't  care  to  borrow,  the  money  to 
bring  an  attorney  from  around  here. 

Mr.  Arens.  Just  ansv;er  this  question :  Do  you  honestly  fear  crimi- 
nal prosecution  if  you  told  us  truthfully  ? 

Mr.  LoFSKY.  I  don't  know.  I  have  been  advised  that  unless  I  plead 
self-incrimination,  sir,  that  there  is  a  possibility  of  that ;  and  not  being 
an  attorney,  I  think  that  that  is  my  right  under  the  Constitution,  and 
I  wish  to  recognize  it,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Do  you  know  a  person  by  the  name  of  Armando  Penha, 
the  gentleman  who  just  preceded  you  on  the  witness  stand? 

Mr.  LoFSKY.  I  decline  to  answer  that  on  the  same  grounds,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  This  gentleman  this  morning  took  an  oath  and,  while  he 
was  testifying  before  this  committee,  he  said  that  while  he  was  an 
undercover  operator  in  the  Communist  Party  in  this  area  he  knew  you 
as  a  Communist;  he  knew  you  as  a  section  committee  member  of  the 
Communist  operation  in  Providence,  E.  I.,  in  charge  of  dues  and 
finances  and  the  like.  We  want  to  give  you  an  opportunity  now, 
while  you  are  under  oath,  to  deny  such  an  assertion  respecting  yourself. 
Do  you  care  to  avail  yourself  of  that  privilege  ? 


COMMTHSnST    ACTIVITTE:S    IN    THE    NEW    ENGLAND    AREA     2135 

Mr.  LoFSKY.  Again,  sir,  very  respectfully  I  would  decline  to  answer 
that  question  on  the  same  grounds. 

Mr.  Aeens.  Was  Mr.  Penha  in  error  when  he  identified  you  as  a 
member  of  the  Communist  Party  ? 

Mr.  LoFSKT.  Sir,  again  I  decline  to  answer;  and,  if  I  may,  I  would 
say  this :  Again  I  am  not  an  attorney.  I  think,  though,  if  I  had  the 
opportunity  in  a  courtroom  under  equal  court  and  American  justice 
procedures,  that  I  would  be  on  certain  grounds  to  answer  many  of 
these  questions.  I  am  only  doing  this  in  protection  to  myself,  sir, 
which  I  understand  is  the  only  recourse  that  I  have  at  this  time. 

Mr.  Arens.  Are  you  now  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party — now, 
this  minute  ? 

Mr.  LoFSKY.  Is  it  permissible  to  ask  the  committee  a  question,  a 
legal  question,  I  mean  ? 

Mr.  Akens.  Kindly  answer  that  question.  Are  you  now  a  member 
of  the  Communist  Party  ? 

Mr.  LoFSKY.  Well,  sir,  if  I  can't  ask  the  question,  I  will  have  to 
decline  to  answer  that  question,  too,  on  the  same  grounds. 

Mr.  Moulder.  I  don't  understand  the  witness. 

Mr.  LoFSKY.  I  wanted  to  ask  the  question.  I  don't  know  whether  it 
is  according  to 

Mr.  Moulder.  After  you  have  responded  to  counsel's  question. 

Mr.  LoFSKY.  I  wanted  to  ask  tlie  chairman  a  question.  I  don't  know 
whether  that  is  permitted  or  not,  sir. 

Mr.  Moulder.  Do  you  understand  the  question  that  has  been  asked  ? 

Mr.  LoFSKY.  Yes,  I  do.  But  I  did  want  to  ask  a  question.  How- 
ever, I  think 

Mr.  Moulder.  You  are  directed  to  respond  to  the  question. 

Mr.  LoFSKY.  I  decline,  sir,  on  the  basis  that  it  might  be  self-incrimi- 
nating. 

Mr.  Arens.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  respectfully  suggest  that  this  con- 
clude the  staff  interrogation  of  this  witness. 

Mr.  KJEARNEY.  Mr.  Chairman,  may  I  ask  a  question  here  ? 

Do  I  understand  you  decline  to  answer  questions  put  to  you  by 
counsel  as  to  whether  you  are  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party  at 
this  time  ?     Is  that  correct  ? 

Mr.  LoFSKY.  That  is  correct,  sir.     I  did. 

Mr.  Kearney.  All  right  then  my  question  to  you  is:  If  you  are 
not  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party  at  this  time,  would  you  so 
state  to  this  committee  ? 

Mr.  LoFSKY.  Sir,  I  am  at  a  disadvantage  at  this  point. 

Mr.  Kearney.  I  know  j^ou  are  not  a  lawyer. 

Mr.  LoFSKY.  If  I  had  legal  advice,  I  might  be  able  to  answer  that 
question. 

Mr.  Kearney.  I  heard  that  2  or  3  times.     That  is  a  simple  question. 

Mr.  LoFSKY.  If  I  had  legal  advice,  I  might  be  able  to  answer  that 
question.     Not  having  legal  advice,  I  think  for  my  own  protection 

Mr.  Kearney.  Is  there  anything  so 

Mr.  LoFSKY.  That  is  the  question  I  wanted  to  ask  the  committee. 
I  don't  know  whether  the  committee  would  be  or  not 

Mr.  KJEARNEY.  Wliy  don't  you  ask  the  chairman  now  ? 

Mr.  LoFSKY.  The  question  I  wanted  to  ask  the  committee  is  a  legal 
question  that  I  have  no  knowledge  of,  Mr.  Chairman,  and  that  is  the 


2136     COMMUNIST    ACTI\TTIES    m    THE    NEW    ENGLAND    AREIA 

question  of  waiving  of  immunity.  Now  I  don't  know  in  answering 
some  questions  whether  or  not  I  might  be  waiving  my  immunity,  in 
other  words,  waiving  the  right  to  further  plead  on  the  basis  of  self- 
incrimination.  And  it  is  only  because  of  my  ignorance  of  the  law 
at  this  point  that  I  feel  that  it  is  a  much  safer  procedure  for  me  to 

Mr.  Moulder.  As  I  understand,  you  have  not  answered  any  ques- 
tions yet. 

Mr.  LoFSKT.  I  mean  on  some  questions,  for  instance,  which  the 
counsel  or  the  chairman  may  ask  of  me,  I  might  be  able  to  answer 
those  questions  if  I  knew  that  I  would  not  be  waiving  my  immunity 
and  my  Federal  immunity  in  doing  so.  If  I  don't  know  that,  sir, 
then  I  am  pleading  self-incrimination. 

Mr.  Moulder.  Do  you  mean  there  are  some  questions  you  would 
like  to  answer  ? 

Mr.  LoFSKY.  No.     I  say  there  might  be. 

Mr.  Moulder.  Then,  the  rule  which  you  are  referring  to,  would 
not,  I  think — I  cannot  see  why  it  would — offer  any  solution  to  your 
problem  if  you  refuse  to  answer  any  question. 

Mr.  LoFSKY.  I  am  not  sure,  Mr.  Chairman.  That  is  why  I  respect- 
fully decline  to  answer. 

Mr.  Doyle.  Mr.  Chairman 

Mr.  Kearney.  I  just  want  to  finish  this. 

Mr.  Doyle.  Go  ahead. 

Mr.  Kearney.  The  question  that  I  asked  you — if  you  were  not  a 
member  of  the  Communist  Party  at  the  present  time,  would  you  so 
state  in  view  of  your  previous  answers  ? 

Mr.  LoFSKY.  I  think  in  reply  to  that  (|uestion,  if  I  was  sure  of  the 
grounds  of  immunity,  I  would  have  an  answer  for  it,  sir. 

JNIr.  Kearney.  I  did  not  get  that. 

Mr.  LoFSKY.  I  am  not  at  all  sure.  I  think  it  is  very  simple.  I 
am  appearing  before  this  committee  by  myself.  I  don't  want  the' 
committee  to  think  that  I  am  being  disrespectful  because  I  intend  no 
disrespect.  However,  I  am  not  sure  of  my  constitutional  grounds. 
I  do  know — at  least  I  think  I  know — that  in  pleading  self-incrimina- 
tion I  have  a  right  to  do  that,  and  I  am  not  sure  in  answering  to  some 
questions  which  might  be  put  to  me,  including  possibly  yours,  Mr. 
Kearney,  is  it — tliat  if  I  answered  tliis  question,  that  I  might  not  be 
waiving  my  furtlier  right  to  plead  on  the  fifth  amendment  ?  I  don't 
know  the  answer  to  that,  Mr.  Chairman.    I  very  frankly  say  so. 

Mr.  Kearney.  I  might  state  to  the  witness  at  this  time — and  I 
think  the  chairman  will  concur  in  my  views — that  any  time  you  are 
m  doubt  as  to  wliat  your  constitutional  rights  are,  appeal  to  the 
Chair,  and  he  certainly  will  tell  you  what  they  are.  It  is  not  our 
])urpose  to  persecute  a  witness  coming  before  this  connnittee.  All  we 
are  trying  to  seek  is  the  truth,  with  your  cooperation,  if  you  feel  like 
giving  it  to  us.  If  you  feel  like  taking  refuge  behind  the  first,  fifth, 
or  some  of  the  other  amendments  that  you  might  have  in  mind,  the 
amendments  to  the  Constitution- — if  you  feel  your  answers  might  place 
you  in  the  position  of  self-incrimination,  you  certainly  have  the  right 
to  refuse  to  answer  the  questions. 

Mr.  LoFSKY.  It  is  on  the  basis  of  that  right  that  I  have  taken  that 
position. 

Mr.  Doyle.  Witness,  you  have  been  in  the  courtroom  here  all  day, 
have  you  not  ? 


COMMUNIST    ACTIVITIE1&   IN    THE    NEW    ENGLAND    AREiA     2137 

Mr.  LoFSKY.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Doyle.  I  thought  I  saw  you  back  there. 

Mr.  LorsKY.  Yes,  sir.  I  was  under  subpena  to  appear  at  10  o'clock 
this  morning. 

Mr.  Doyle.  Of  course,  you  heard  all  the  witness  stated,  did  you 
not? 

Mr.  LoFSKY.  Yes,  I  did. 

Mr.  Doyle.  Was  there  anything  he  said  about  you  that  was  not 
true?  We  always  give  a  witness  as  prompt  an  opportunity  as  we  can 
to  deny  any  statement.  You  heard  every  statement  he  made.  Now", 
v\'hat  statement  did  he  make  about  you  that  was  not  true  ? 

Mr.  LoFSKY.  Well,  Mr.  Chairman,  again  I  would  prefer  not  to 
answer  that  on  the  basis  that  it  may  be  incriminating. 

Mr.  Doyle.  Yes.  I  heard  you  just  a  minute  ago.  You  may  not 
have  intended  to  say  it.  But  I  heard  you  say,  "I  have  been  advised 
that  I  might  waive  my  constitutional  rights." 

Mr.  LoFSKY.  Not  legally,  sir.     Not  by 

Mr,  Doyle.  But  you  consulted  with  legal  counsel  before  you  came 
here  a  little  bit  at  least,  did  you  not  ? 

Mr.  LoFSKY.  Yes,  I  have. 

Mr.  Doyle.  Sure  you  have.  You  came  here  fully  advised  about 
your  legal  rights,  did  you  not  ? 

Mr.  LoFSKY.  Well 

Mr.  Doyle.  You  vrent  to  your  lawyer  and  conferred  with  him 
about  appearing  here,  did  you  not,  and  what  your  constitutional 
rights  would  be  ? 

Mr.  LoFSKY.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Doyle.  So  when  you  come  here  and  say  you  do  not  know 
vfhat  your  constitutional  rights  are,  that  is  false,  is  it  not,  because 
you  have  had  legal  advice  ? 

Mr,  LoFSKY.  No,  sir.  I  know  my  Constitutional — I  think  I  Imow 
that  my  constitutional  rights  permit  me  to  plead  the  fifth  amendment. 

]Mr.  Doyle.  Yes,  they  do, 

Mr.  LoFSKY.  And  at  times  the  first  amendment. 

Mr.  Doyle.  Yes. 

Mr.  LoFSKY.  And  beyond  that  I  am  not  a  lawyer  and  don't  know 
the  technicality  of  it. 

Mr.  Doyle.  We  could  not  object  to  that.  The  thing  I  noticed  is 
your  making  believe  here  you  have  not  had  legal  advice. 

Mr.  LoFSKY.  No,  sir. 

Mr.  Doyle.  And  now  you  say  you  liave. 

Mr.  LoFSKY.  I  did  consult  my  attorney.  I  said  I  didn't  bring  him 
down  here.  Obviously  I  didn't'.  And  I  didn't  bring  him  down  for  a 
personal  reason. 

Mr.  Doyle.  I  could  tell  from  your  answers  that  you  had  legal  advice 
and  that  you  knew  fully  what  your  constitutional  rights  were.  And 
when  you  asked  our  distinguished  chairman  the  question  you  did,  you 
did  it  to  make  a  front  appearance. 

Mr.  LoFSKY.  No,  sir. 

Mr.  DoYi.E.  As  though  you  did  not  know  what  your  rights  were. 

Mr.  LoFSKY.  No,  sir,  I  haven't 

Mr.  Doyle.  All  the  time  you  did  know  before  you  came  in  this 
room. 


2138     COMMUNIST    ACTIVITTES    IN    THE    NEW    ENGLAND    ARElA. 

Mr.  LorsKY.  I  am  sorry,  sir,  that  is  not  the  case. 

Mr.  Doyle.  We  are  wise  as  to  what  you  folks  do. 

Mr.  Arens.  Since  you  received  your  subpena  to  appear  before  this 
committee,  have  you  conferred  with  reference  to  your  appearance 
before  this  committee,  with  any  person  known  by  you  to  be  a  member 
of  the  Connnmiist  Partv  ? 

Mr.  LoFSKY.  I  would  decline  to  answer  that  question. 

Mr.  Arens,  I  respectfully  suggest,  Mr.  Chairman,  that  will  con- 
clude the  staff  interrogation  of  this  witness. 

Mr.  McIntosh.  Mr.  Witness,  you  suggest,  at  least  I  take  it  from 
your  testimony,  that  you  might  be  willing  to  cooperate  with  this 
committee  if  you  were  a  little  more  certain  of  some  of  the  implica- 
tions of  your  answers  as  to  a  waiver  of  your  constitutional  rights. 

Mr.  LoFSKY.  No.  I  didn't  mean  to  leave  that  impression,  sir.  All 
1  said  was  that  some  questions  which  could  be  put  to  me,  and  I  think 
were  about  to  be  put  to  me — that  perhaps  some  questions  might  have 
been  assuming  something  that  wasn't  so.  Yet  I  could  have  answered 
if  I  knew  exactly  what  my  legal  rights  were.  Since  I  don't,  I  prefer 
not  to. 

Mr.  McIntosh.  Mr.  Witness,  we  will  be  here  a  few  days.  Would 
it  help  this  situation  if  we  continued  you  under  subpena,  perhaps  re- 
ferred you  to  the  bar  association,  legal  aid  committee  or  something, 
to  review  this  question,  and  then  bring  you  back  to  the  stand  ? 

Mr.  LoFSKY.  No,  sir,  I  don't  think  so,  sir. 

Mr.  McIntosh.  That  would  not  help  ? 

Mr.  LoFSKY.  I  don't  think  so. 

Mr.  Kearney.  In  other  words,  Mr.  Witness,  then  regardless  of  all 
your  talk  about  you  are  not  present  with  any  attorney,  whether  you 
received  assistance  from  the  legal  aid  portion  of  the  bar  association 
or  any  other  attorney,  your  answers  would  still  be  the  same,  would 
they  not? 

Mr.  LorsKY.  Sir,  I  feel  that  since  I  already  have  been  sworn  in  as 
a  witness  and  am  appearing  here,  that  there  would  be  nothing  to 
be  served  so  far  as  I  am  concerned  in 

Mr.  Kearney.  Nothing  to  be  served  upon  further  questioning  you 
upon  the  part  of  the  committee.    That  is  all. 

Mr.  Moulder.  May  I  inquire  of  you — you  made  some  statement 
about  immunity — if  this  committee  takes  proper  steps  to  assure  j^ou 
of  immunity  from  prosecution  as  a  result  of  any  answers  which 
you  may  give  to  questions  concerning  Communist  Party  activities, 
would  you  then  cooperate  with  the  committee  and  answer  those 
questions  ? 

Mr.  LoFSKY^.  Sir,  I  can't  answer  that  question. 

Mr.  Moulder.  All  right. 

Mr.  LoFSKY.  I  am  not  a  legal  person.    I  don't  know  the  answer. 

Mr.  Moulder.  The  witness  is  excused. 

Mr.  Arens.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  respectfully  suggest  our  next  wit- 
ness, who  was  and  is  under  subpena  to  appear  before  this  committee, 
is  Mary  Figueirido.  Her  counsel  presented  me  this  morning  with 
a  doctor's  certificate  to  the  effect  that  Mrs.  Figueirido  is  ill  and  being 
admitted  to  the  hospital.  I,  therefore,  respectfully  suggest,  Mr. 
Chairman,  that  there  be  a  record  entry  that  she  be  excused  from  ap- 
pearance before  the  committee  now  but  be  continued  for  an  indefinite 


COMMUNIST    ACTIVITIES    IjS'    THE    NEW    ENGLAND    AREA     2139 

period  under  the  subpena,  pendiiio-  a  situation  where  she  might  regain 
her  heahh. 

J\Ir.  Moulder.  Request  of  able  counsel  is  approved,  and  it  is  so 
ordered. 

Mr.  Arens.  The  next  witness,  if  you  please,  Mr.  Chairman,  will  be 
Mr.  Sam  Appel. 

Kindly  come  forward  if  you  please,  sir,  and  remain  standing  while 
the  chairman  administers  the  oath. 

Mr.  Appel.  Mr.  Chairman,  please,  I  understood  no  pictures  are  to 
be  taken. 

Mr.  Moulder.  No  pictures  will  be  taken. 

Will  you  hold  up  3'our  right  hand  and  be  sworn. 

Do  you  solemnly  swear  that  the  testimony  which  you  are  about  to 
give  before  the  subcommittee  will  be  the  truth,  the  wdiole  truth,  and 
nothing  but  the  truth,  so  help  you  God  ? 

JNIr.  Appel.  I  do,  sir. 

TESTIMONY   OF  SAMUEL   APPEL,   ACCOMPANIED  BY  COUNSEL, 
GERALD  A.  BERLIN 

Mr.  Arens.  Kindly  identify  yourself,  sir,  by  name,  residence,  and 
occupation. 

Mr.  Appel.  My  name  is  Samuel  Appel.  I  live  in  Fall  Kiver, 
Mass.,  and  I  work  in  a  dye  house. 

I  submitted  a  statement  this  morning  to  the  counsel,  which  I  would 
like  now  to  read  to  you  please,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  You  are  appeai'ing  today,  Mr.  Appel,  in  response  to  a 
subpena  which  was  served  upon  you  by  the  House  Committee  on 
Un-American  Activities  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  That  is  correct,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  You  are  represented  by  counsel  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  I  am,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Counsel,  kindly  identify  yourself  on  this  record. 

Mr.  Berlin.  Gerald  A.  Berlin,  with  offices  in  Boston. 

Mr.  Arens.  Now,  Mr.  Appel,  with  reference  to  the  statement  which 
you  submitted,  the  rules  of  this  committee  provide  any  statement  to 
be  submitted  by  a  witness  shall  be  submitted  24  hours  in  advance 
before  consideration  by  the  committee.  I  now  have  the  statement  in 
my  hand,  which  I  shall  submit  to  the  committee  for  its  consideration, 
deliberation,  and  to  determine  whether  or  not  it  shall  incorporate  the 
statement  in  this  record  by  reference. 

While  the  committee  is  doing  that,  Mr.  Appel,  kindly  tell  us  where 
and  when  you  w^ere  born. 

Mr.  Appel.  I  was  born  August  21, 1007,  in  Poland. 

Mr.  Arens.  And  when  did  you  come  to  the  United  States? 

Mr.  Appel.  1909. 

Mr.  Arens.  Are  you  now  a  citizen  of  the  United  States. 

]\Ir.  Appel.  Yes,  sir ;  I  am. 

Mr.  Arens.  Are  you  a  naturalized  citizen  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  Derivative  naturalization. 

Mr.  Arens.  Give  us  please,  sir,  a  word  about  your  education. 

Mr.  Appel.  High  school  education  and  a  bachelor  of  arts  degree. 

Mr.  Arens.  From  what  university  ? 

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2140     COMMUNIST    ACTIVrTTES    EST    THE    NEW    ENGLAND    ARElA 

Mr.  Appel.  Ohio  State  University. 

Mr.  Arens.  And  was  that  in  1940  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  No,  sir;  in  1930. 

Mr.  Arens.  1930.  Then  tell  us,  if  you  please,  sir,  the  principal 
employments  you  have  liad  since  you  concluded  your  formal  educa- 
tion. 

Mr.  Appel.  I  have  been  a  textile  worker,  shoe  worker,  and  organizer 
for  shoe  workers'  union  for  many  years,  and  now  working  in  a  dye 
house. 

Mr.  Arens.  In  what  capacity  were  you  an  organizer;  for  what 
group  were  you  an  organizer  for  the  shoe  workers  industry? 

Mr.  Appel.  I  was  an  organizer  for  the  United  Shoe  Workers  of 
America,  CIO. 

Mr.  Arens.  Wliere  were  you  employed  as  a  representative  of  that 
entity,  that  organization  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  In  the  Boston  area,  primarily. 

Mr.  Arens.  Over  what  period  of  time,  please,  sir  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  Oh,  about  10,  15  years,  I  guess,  10  or  12  years,  some- 
thing like  that — maybe  more. 

Mr.  Arens.  How  long  have  you  lived  in  the  Fall  River  area  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  About  8  years,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  And  during  that  period  of  time  have  you  always  been 
engaged  in  your  present  occupation  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  For  what  firms  or  organizations  do  you  work? 

Mr.  Appel.  I  work  for  Spindle  City  Dye  Works,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Specifically,  what  do  you  do  there,  sir? 

Mr.  Appel.  I  work  on  production. 

Mr.  Arens.  Wliat  do  you  produce  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  We  do  dyeing  of  yarns  and  things  of  that  sort,  and  I 
help  in  the  scheduling  of  work.  I  do  preparation  of  the  work,  and 
so  forth. 

Mr.  Arens.  Are  you  now  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  No,  sir ;  I  am  not. 

Mr.  Arens.  Have  you  ever  been  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  Just  one  moment,  sir. 

(The  witness  conferred  with  his  counsel.) 

Mr.  Appel.  I  was  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party,  but  I  want 
to  make  it  quite  clear  now  that  I  am  not  now ;  and  I  will  be  glad  to 
answer  any  questions  this  committee  may  ask  me  about  my  past 
membership,  concerning  myself ;  but  I  will  not  answer  any  questions 
concerning  any  of  my  associates  or  any  people  I  knew  at  that  time. 

Mr.  Arens.  Over  what  period  of  time  were  you  a  member  of  the 
Communist  Party? 

(The  witness  conferred  with  his  counsel.) 

Mr.  Appel.  The  precise  time  is  not  too  clear  in  my  mind.  How- 
ever, I  think  it  was  around  tlie  1930's;  and  I  left  the  early  part  of 
the  1950's,  about  1951,  1952 — something  like  that.  I  am  not  too  clear 
of  the  dates. 

Mr.  Arens.  During  the  course  of  your  membership  in  the  Com- 
munist Party  did  you  know  a  person  by  the  name  of  Armando  Penha? 

Mr.  Appel.  Just  one  moment. 

(The  witness  conferred  with  his  counsel.) 

Mr.  Appel.  What  is  the  pertinency  of  that  question,  sir  ? 


COMMUNIST    ACTIVITIES   IN    THE    NEW    ENGLAND    AREA    2141 

Mr.  Arens.  The  purpose  of  the  question,  among  other  things,  is  to 
confirm  the  testimony  of  a  witness  who  testified  under  oath  before 
this  committee  this  morning,  that  while  he  was  a  member  of  the 
Communist  Party,  he  knew  you  as  a  Communist.  We  expect  also  to 
explore  with  you  factual  information,  during  the  course  of  your  testi- 
mony, which  will  be  helpful  to  this  committee  in  consideration  of  a 
num"ber  of  legislative  recommendations  that  are  pending  before  tliis 
committee  to  undertake  to  strenthen  this  Nation  against  the  Commu- 
nist conspiracy. 

Now,  answer  the  question. 

Mr.  Appel.  I  vaguely  remember  Mr.  Penha— very  faintly  and 
vaguely. 

Mr.  Arens.  Did  you  break  from  the  Communist  Party  in  1951? 

Mr.  Appel.  I  didn't  actually  break ;  I  just  dropped  out. 

Mr.  Arens.  Are  you  completely,  irrevocably,  out  of  the  Communist 
operations  now  ? 

Mr,  Appel.  I  am,  sir. 

Mr,  Arens.  Kindly  tell  us  what  post  you  held  in  the  Communist 
Party  during  the  period  of  some  20  years  in  which  you  were  a  member 
of  the  Communist  Party. 

Mr.  Appel.  What  relevancy  does  this  have  in  this  hearing  now,  sir? 

Mr.  Arens.  Considerable  relevancy  now,  sir,  in  respect  that  this 
committee  has  under  consideration  a  great  number  of  proposals  to 
strengthen  this  Nation  against  the  penetration  and  operation  of  the 
Communist  conspiracy  in  the  United  States.  If  you,  as  an  individual, 
have  been  in  the  Communist  conspiracy  for  20  years,  as  you  have 
just  testified,  you  undoubtedly  have  an  accumulation  of  information, 
factual  material,  which,  if  you  will  supply  it  to  your  Government,  will 
be  helpful  to  this  committee  in  its  appraisal  of  this  legislation,  for 
the  purpose  of  recommending  to  the  United  States  Congress  changes 
Jn  each  of  numerous  enactments  on  the  statute  books,  to  enable  your 
Government  better  to  cope  with  this  conspiracy. 

Now,  will  you  kindly  answer  the  question  ? 

Mr.  Moulder.  May  I  say,  and  add  to  your  statement,  Mr.  Arens: 
Recommendations  with  particular  reference  to  the  omnibus  security 
bill  introduced  by  the  chairman  of  this  committee,  Mr.  Walter,  H.  R. 
9937,  and  also  in  connection  with  amendments  under  consideration  by 
the  committee  in  connection  with  the  Internal  Security  Act,  the  For- 
eign Agents  Registration  Act,  the  Communist  Control  Act  of  1954. 

(The  witness  conferred  with  his  counsel.) 

Mr.  Appel.  Before  I  answer  that  statement,  sir,  will  my  statement 
here  that  I  presented  to  you  be  a  part  of  the  record  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  It  has  been  submitted  by  myself,  sir,  to  the  committee 
for  its  consideration  and  determination  as  to  whether  or  not  it  wants 
to  order  that  statement  to  be  a  part  of  the  record. 

Mr.  Appel.  I  would  like  to  put  that  statement  in  the  record  before 
I  proceed  with  the  further  questioning. 

Mr.  Arens.  Would  you  kindly  answer  the  question  which  is  out- 
standing, namely,  to  tell  this  committee  the  positions  or  posts  which 
you  have  held  in  the  course  of  your  20  years'  membership  in  the  Com- 
munist Party?. 

(The  witness  conferred  with  his  counsel.) 


2142     COMMUNIST    ACTRTTIES    IX    THE    NEW    ENGLl\ND    ARElA 

Mr.  Ai'i'KK.  I  didn't  hold  any  positions  of  any  outstanding-  nature 
of  any  kind.  I  was  primarily  concerned  durino-  those  years  with  be- 
ing an  oroanizer  for  a  union.  JSIy  job  consisted  primarily  of  organ- 
izino-  shoe  workers,  and  my  role  in  the  Communist  Party  was  very, 
very  limited — actually  to  just  about  membership — and  so  I  held  no 
outstanding-  posts  or  any  positions  that  I  can  recall. 

Mr,  xIrexs.  Tell  us,  first  of  all  tlien,  please,  sir,  the  first  entity 
of  the  Connnunist  Party  with  which  you  were  identified  in  the  course 
of  your  career  in  the  party. 

Mr.  Appel.  I  don't  quite  follow. 

Mr.  Arens.  To  what  cell,  section,  branch,  unit,  fraction  of  the  Com- 
munist Party  were  you  first  attached  ? 

Mr.  Appel,  I  was  a  member  of  Shoe  Workers  Grouj),  the  Shoe 
"Workers  Fraction. 

Mr.  Arens.  "Wliere? 

Mr.  Appel,  In  the  Boston  area. 

Mr.  Arens.  And  when  did  you  first  become  connected  with  that  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  In  the  early  lO-jO's ;  the  exact  date  I  am  not  quite  sure 
about. 

Mr.  Arexs.  How  many  members  were  there  in  that  fraction  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  At  that  time  it  varied,  but  at  one  time  it  may  have  been 
as  high  as  15  or  20  peo])le. 

Mr.  Arexs.  How  long  did  you  maintain  an  identification  or  affilia- 
tion with  that  fraction  { 

Mr,  Appel,  About  1936-37,  something  like  that. 

Mr.  Arens,  Then  1  take  it  for  about  7  years  you  were  identified  with 
that  particular  fraction;  is  that  correct? 

INIr.  Appel.  Possibly — I  am  not  quite  sure  of  the  years,  at  the  time, 
or  anything  of  that  sort.     It  has  been  a  long  time. 

Mr,  Arens,  During  this  period  of  time  from  1030  to  1937,  or  there- 
abouts, were  you  connected  with,  attached  to,  or  affiliated  with,  any 
other  entity  of  the  Communist  Party  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  Not  that  I  can  recall,  sir. 

INIr.  Arens.  Tell  us,  please,  sir,  the  functions  you  performed  on 
behalf  of  the  Communist  Party  as  a  member  of  this  shoe  fraction. 

Mr.  Appel.  I  j^erformed  no  particular  function.  I  was  a  member 
of  the  group  and  ])aid  dues.  We  met,  discussed  questions  about  the 
industry,  how  to  further  the  industry,  the  organization  of  the  industry, 
and  things  to  that  effect.  That  is  about — it  has  been  sucli  a  long  time, 
but  that  is  about  the  effect  of  it. 

Mr.  Arens.  In  addition  to  discussing  what  to  do  with  the  industry, 
what  was  done  b}"  the  fraction  or  members  of  the  fraction  within 
the  industry  to  further  the  Communist  cause? 

Mr,  Appel.  It  was  no  particular  discussion  about  furthering  the 
Communist  cause,  per  se.  What  Ave  were  primarily  concerned  about 
was  to  organize  the  shoe  workers  and  to  see  if  we  can  improve  some  of 
the  wages  and  conditions  that  existed  at  that  time. 

Mr.  Arens,  What  efforts  were  made  to  organize  the  shoe  workers? 

Mr,  Appel.  Circulars  were  distributed  by  the  union  and  by  the 
Comnumists,  to  urge  the  members  of  the  open  shops  to  join  the  union, 
and  assistance  was  given  at  times;  at  the  beginning,  before  the  union 
was  even  formed,  the  meeting  hall  Avas  supplied  us,  at  the  time,  to 
hel])  us  organize  a  union. 


COMMUNIST    ACTIVITIES    IN    THE    NEW    ENGLAND    AREA    2143 

Mr.  Arens.  Were  the  United  Shoe  Workers  at  this  time  controlled 
by  the  Communist  Party  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  No,  sir ;  they  were  not. 

Mr.  Arens.  Did  it  occupy  or  control  any  key  posts  in  the  United 
Shoe  Workers  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  The  Communist  Party,  as  such,  did  not  occupy.  I  was 
chairman  of  the  local  union  myself  for  a  couple  of  years. 

Mr.  Arens.  Were  you  then  a  Communist  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  I  was  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party  at  that  time. 

Mr.  Moulder.  I  want  to  interrupt  to  clarify.  There  was  then  a 
legitimate  labor  union  organization  functioning  in  connection  with 
the  shoe  factories  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  Well,  at  that  particular — at  one  time  there  wasn't. 
Afterwards,  there  was  a  labor  union.  At  the  beginning  there  was  no 
union  there  at  all.  In  other  words,  in  the  1930's — the  early  1930's — 
at  first  there  was  no  organization.  Then  an  organization  came  into 
being,  a  union  came  into  being. 

Mr.  Arens.  Were  you  a  comrade,  a  Communist,  at  the  same  time 
you  were  head  of  this  local  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  Yes,  sir ;  I  was  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party. 

Mr.  Arens.  Were  you  taking  instructions  from  the  Communist 
Party  concerning  your  activities  within  the  local  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  I  don't  recall  receiving  any  specific  instructions,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Who,  to  your  certain  knowledge,  were  Communists  or 
comrades  who  were  members  of  this  shoe  fraction  of  the  Communist 
Party  during  the  period  of  your  connection  with  it  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  Just  one  moment,  sir. 

(The  witness  conferred  with  his  counsel.) 

Mr.  Appel.  What  would  be  the  pertinency  of  this  question,  par- 
ticularly to  the  subject  matter  under  investigation  today  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  The  purpose  of  the  inquiry  would  be  this,  sir,  namely, 
that  if  you  tell  us  the  names  of  people  who  were  members  of  this  frac- 
tion of  the  Communist  Party  in  the  shoe  industry,  if  we  do  not  have 
information  from  them  or  about  them,  they  will  be  subpenaed  before 
this  committee,  perhaps  first  in  executive  session,  at  which  time  we 
will  undertake  to  elicit  from  them  information  which  will  add  to 
the  fund  of  knowledge  of  this  committee,  upon  which  it  can  base 
legislative  recommendations  undertaking  to  protect  the  Nation,  under 
whose  flag  you  have  protection,  against  the  operation  of  the  Commu- 
nist conspiracy. 

Now,  would  you  kindly  answer  the  question :  Who,  to  your  certain 
knowledge,  are  persons  known  by  you  at  any  time  to  have  been  com- 
rades within  this  shoe  fraction  of  the  Communist  Party  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  On  this  question,  sir,  I  must  respectfully  decline  to 
answer  on  the  groimd  that  it  is  a  violation  of  the  first  amendment  to 
the  Constitution,  which  upholds  my  right  of  freedom  of  speech,  free- 
dom of  assembly,  and  freedom  of  free  association,  and  was  upheld  by 
the  United  States  Supreme  Court  under  the  Watkins  decision,  sir.  I 
cannot  answer  that  question  under  those  circumstances. 

Mr.  Arens.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  respectfully  suggest  that  this  record 
now  reflect  an  order  and  direction  to  this  witness  to  answer  the 
question. 

Mr.  Moulder.  The  witness  is  ordered  and  directed  to  answer  the 
question. 

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2144   COMMUNIST  AcrrvmES  m  the  new  England  area 

Mr.  Appel.  I  still  respectfully  decline  to  answer,  on  the  grounds 
just  stated. 

Mr.  Akens.  So  the  record  may  be  perfectly  clear,  Mr.  Chairman : 
Witness,  in  response  to  the  question  and  the  admonition  and  direction 
of  the  chairman,  you  are  not  invoking  those  provisions  of  tlie  fifth 
amendment  which  give  you  a  privilege  not  to  incriminate  yourself  ? 

(The  witness  conferred  with  his  counsel.) 

Mr.  Appel.  No;  I  refuse  to  answer  on  the  grounds  of  the  first 
amendment  to  the  Constitution,  and  also  on  the  matter  that  this 
inquiry  is  not  pertinent  to  the  situation  at  the  present  time. 

Mr.  Arens.  Now,  so  we  may  have  still  a  parallel  question  to  the 
last  principal  question :  Are  there  any  persons  who,  as  late  as  1951, 
when  you  broke  from  the  Communist  Party,  were  known  by  you  to 
have  been  members  of  the  shoe  fraction  of  the  Communist  Party  in 
this  vicinity. 

Mr.  Appel.  I  don't  quite  understand  that  at  all. 

Mr.  Arens.  I  will  state  it  in  another  form. 

So  that  there  may  be  a  question  parallel  to  the  last  outstanding 
principal  question :  Are  there  persons  known  to  you  to  be  Communists 
as  late  as  1951,  who  were,  to  your  knowledge,  members  of  this  shoe 
fraction  of  the  Communist  Party  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  I  again  must  refuse  to  answer  on  the  grounds  that  I 
have  indicated,  sir ;  and  as  a  matter  of  conscience,  I  will  not  name  any 
people  that  I  may  have  known. 

Mr.  Arens.  May  I  explain  to  you  the  pertinency  of  this  last  ques- 
tion, which  is  parallel  to  the  principal  question;  and  then  I  shall 
respectfully  request  the  chairman  to  direct  you  to  answer. 

There  is  pending  before  the  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities 
a  number  of  legislative  proposals  and  suggestions,  in  addition  to 
actual  bills.  Among  those  are  provisions  which  would  preclude  cer- 
tification by  the  National  Labor  Relations  Board  as  a  bargaining 
agency  of  any  organization  or  unit  which  is  controlled  by  the  Com- 
munist Party.  If  you  can  tell  us  the  names  of  persons  who,  to  your 
certain  knowledge,  have  been  in  the  past  members  of  the  shoe  fraction 
of  the  Communist  Party  in  this  area,  we  will  undertake  to  subpena 
them  before  the  committee,  in  order  to  elicit  from  them  the  extent  to 
which  the  Communist  Party  has  penetrated  this  particular  industry, 
with  the  end  in  view  of  developing  factual  material  which  will  enable 
the  committee  to  recommend  legislation  on  this  vital  issue. 

I  respectfully  suggest,  Mr.  Chairman,  with  tliat  explanation  of  per- 
tinency to  the  witness,  that  he  be  ordered  and  directed  to  answer  the 
question. 

Mr.  Moulder.  The  witness  is  so  ordered  and  directed  to  answer  the 
question. 

Mr.  Appel.  I  know  no  one  since  1951,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Do  you  know  anyone  since  1950  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  I  don't  remember  anybody,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  What  is  the  last  period  in  which  you  did  know  some- 
one? 

Mr.  Appel.  I  can't  quite  recall ;  and  if  I  did  recall,  I  again  would 
have  to  refer  to  my  previous  answer,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Do  you  recall  anyone  in  the  course  of  the  last  5  years? 

Mr.  Appel.  I  do  not.     I  don't  remember  anybody  since  then. 


COMMUNIST   AOnVITIEiS   EST    THE    NEW    ENGLAND    AREA    2145 

Mr.  Arens.  Do  you  recall  anyone  in  the  1940's  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  I  must  decline  to  answer  that,  sir,  on  the  same  grounds 
I  stated  before. 

Mr.  Arens.  Are  you  now  completely,  irrevocably,  out  of  the  Com- 
munist Party  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  I  am,  sir ;  definitely. 

Mr.  Arens.  Are  you  under  Commmiist  Party  discipline? 

Mr.  Appel.  I  am  not  under  Communist  Party  discipline. 

Mr.  Arens.  Are  you  against  the  Communist  Party  principles  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  I  am  opposed  to  their  principles. 

Mr.  Arens.  Are  you  opposed  to  the  function  of  the  Communist 
Party? 

Mr.  Appel.  I  am  opposed  to  the  function  of  the  Communist  Party. 

Mr.  Arens.  Do  you  regard  the  Commmiist  Party  as  a  threat  to  this 
Nation? 

Mr.  Appel.  I  don't  regard  them  as  anything,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Do  you  regard  them  as  a  threat  to  this  Nation  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  I  haven't  regarded  them  as  a  threat.  I  don't  think  they 
are,  personally. 

Mr.  Arens.  Why  did  you  disassociate  yourself,  then,  from  the  Com- 
munist Party  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  I  didn't  think  the  program  was  proper.  I  disagreed 
with  the  program  and  I  didn't  think  it  was  a  right  thing  to  the  United 
States,  and  I  dropped  out. 

Mr.  Arens.  How  long  did  it  take  you  to  arrive  at  that  particular 
judgment,  you  having  been  in  the  Communist  Party  twenty-some 
years  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  It  took  me  a  number  of  years  to  think  about  these  things, 
sir.     But  I  definitely  reached  that  conclusion  in  the  early  1950's. 

Mr.  Arens.  What  is  it,  specifically,  that  you  have  against  the  Com- 
munist Party,  or  that  you  protest  within  yourself  against  the  Com- 
munist operations  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  I  don't  believe  that  when  I  dropped  out,  my  thinking 
was — I  left  the  labor  movement  as  such,  and  I  didn't  think  that  I  could 
any  further  associate  with  the  Communists  and  the  labor  movement, 
as  such.  I  just  simply  dropped  out,  feeling  that  that  was  enough  for 
me.     That  was  my  general  reaction,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Is  there  something  about  the  Communist  operation  in 
this  country,  specifically,  that  caused  you  to  develop  an  abhorrence 
of  it? 

Mr.  Appel.  I  wasn't  too  much  aware  of  the  operation  itself,  sir. 
I  mean,  I  didn't  participate  too  much  in  their  operation,  and  wasn't 
too  much  aware  of  what  they  consider  an  operation ;  but  I  personally 
felt  that  I  had  to  get  out.  I  couldn't  go  along  with  some  of  the  policies 
and  programs  at  that  time,  which  I  still  don't  recall  what  they  were. 
I  just  dropped  everything  completely. 

Mr.  Arens.  Do  you  want  now,  as  a  citizen  of  this  country,  to  do  what 
you  can  to  counter,  block,  stop  the  operations  of  the  Communist  con- 
spiracy in  the  United  States  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  Just  one  moment,  sir. 

(The  witness  conferred  with  his  counsel.) 

Mr.  Appel.  Sir,  if  I  knew  of  any  specific  crimes  that  were  being 
committed  by  any  one  person  or  any  group  of  persons 


2146     COMMUNrST    ACTIVTTIES    en    the    new    ENGLAND    AREtA 

Mr.  Arens.  I  didn't  ask  you  that  question. 

Mr.  AprEL.  I  would  inform  the  proper  agencies.  Otherwise,  I  don't 
think  that  I  can  answer  any  further  questions  relative  to  the  people. 

Mr.  Arens.  Have  you  submitted  any  information  respecting  the 
operation  of  the  Communist  Party  to  the  Federal  Bureau  of  Investiga- 
tion ? 

Mr.  Appel.  I  have  not,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Have  you  contacted  any  intelligence  agency  or  secu- 
rity agency  of  the  State  or  Federal  Government  respecting  any  infor- 
mation which  you  may  possess  regarding  the  Communist  Party  'i 

(The  witness  conferred  with  his  counsel. ) 

Mr.  Appel.  I  gave  all  the  information  that  I  had  available  about 
myself  to  the  State  Commission  against  Communism. 

Mr.  Arens.  Have  you  told  the  State  Commission  against  Commu- 
nism about  Communist  operations  within  this  area  that  you  knew 
about  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  Whatever  they  asked,  I  answered  all  their  questions, 
sir.   I  don't  recall  the  questions. 

Mr.  Arens.  You  told  the  names  of  the  persons  who,  to  your  cer- 
tain knowledge,  were  in  the  operation  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  I  did  not  mention  any  names,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Wliat  was  the  next  affiliation  which  you  had  with  an 
entity  of  the  Communist  conspiracy  in  this  country?  You  told  us 
from  1930  to  1937  you  were  in  the  shoe  fraction. 

Mr.  Appel.  I  had  no  other  affiliation  except  general  membership, 
sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Where  did  you  maintain  your  membership  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  In  the  Boston  area.  I  mean,  I  didn't  belong  to  any 
group  or  any  particular  unit  or  any  particular  branch  of  the  Com- 
munist Party. 

Mr.  Arens.  To  whom  did  you  pay  your  dues  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  To  the  secretary  of  the  Communist  Party  at  the  time, 
sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Wlio  was  that  person  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  Again  I  must  respectfully  decline  to  answer  that  ques- 
tion, sir ;  since  it  involves  association,  it  involves  people ;  and  I  camiot 
answer  that  under  the  first  amendment  and  under  the  Watkins  Su- 
preme Court  decision. 

Mr.  Arens.  How  long  had  you  known  that  person  to  whom  you  paid 
your  dues  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  I  don't  recall  that. 

Mr.  Arens.  What  is  the  latest  you  knew  that  person  to  be  a  member 
of  the  Communist  Party,  the  latest  in  chronology  of  your  life? 

Mr.  Appel.  I  don't  remember. 

Mr.  Arens.  Did  you  know  that  person  to  be  a  member  of  the  Com- 
munist Party  as  late  as  1950? 

Mr.  Appel.  I  don't  see  the  relevancy  of  that,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  The  relevancy  of  it  is  this :  If  you  tell  us  the  name  of 
that  person  to  whom  you  paid  your  dues,  since  one  of  the  items  of 
interest  to  this  committee  is  Communist  Party  finances,  we  would 
subpena  that  person  before  us  with  the  hope  that  we  might  be  able 
to  elicit  from  that  person  certain  information  respecting  the  financing 
of  this  conspiratorial  operation  against  this  Government. 


COMMUNIST   ACTIVITIES   IN    THE    NEW    ENGLAND    AREA    2147 

Kindly  tell  us,  if  you  please,  sir,  the  name  of  the  person  to  whom 
you  paid  your  dues  when  you  were  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party 
as  late  as  1951. 

(The  witness  conferred  with  his  counsel.) 

Mr.  Appel.  Again,  sir,  I  will  have  to  respectfully  decline  to  answer 
that  question  on  the  ground  that  I  don't  believe  that  it  is  pertinent. 
I  don't  think  it  conforms  with  the  first  amendment  to  the  Constitution, 
which  gives  me  a  right  of  free  association.  I  will  not  become  an  in- 
former for  this  committee  or  for  anyone  else,  sir;  and  I,  therefore, 
respectfully  decline,  to  answer  that  question. 

Mr.  Arens.  I  respectfully  suggest,  Mr.  Chairman,  that  the  witness 
be  ordered  and  directed  to  answer  the  question. 

Mr.  Moulder.  The  witness  is  ordered  and  directed  to  answer  the 
question. 

I  may  saj'  to  you  it  is  not  in  the  spirit  of  threat,  but  for  the  purpose 
of  fully  advising  you  of  the  possible  dangers  you  might  be  placing 
yourself  in,  in  refusing  to  answer.  You  may  be  guilty  of  contempt 
of  Congress. 

Mr.  Appel.  I  still  maintain  my  position,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Have  you  ever  paid  any  money  to  x4.rmando  Penha  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  Kot  that  I  recall,  sir.  I  don't  remember  giving  him  any 
money.  His  statement  this  morning,  as  far  as  I  was  concerned,  is 
absolutely  incorrect,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Did  you  ever  secretly  maintain  a  mimeograph  machine 
in  your  home  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  No,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Did  you  ever  maintain  a  mimeograph  machine  in  your 
honje  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  I  have  a  typewriter.  I  may  have  had  a  mimeograph. 
I  don't  remember. 

Mr.  Arens.  Was  that  mimeograph  used  for  Communist  Party 
functions  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  No,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Did  you  turn  over  to  Penha  a  mimeograph  machine  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  I  don't  recall,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Were  you  in  the  underground  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  No,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  What  groups,  if  any,  did  you  penetrate,  while  you  were 
a  member  of  the  Communist  Party,  on  behalf  of  the  Communist 
Party? 

Mr.  Appel.  I  didn't  penetrate  any  groups,  sir,  as  far  as  I  know, 
on  behalf  of  anybody,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Were  you  as  a  comrade,  a  member,  or  active  in  the 
Progressive  Party  operations  in  this  area  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  I  was  a  member  of  the  Progressive  Party  on  my  own 
behalf,  sir.  I  believed  in  its  principles  and  I  joined  the  Progressive 
Party  on  my  own  behalf. 

Mr.  Arens.  Was  that  simultaneously  with  your  membership  in  the 
Communist  Party  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  I  was  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party  at  the  time  I 
was  a  member  of  the  Progressive  Party,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Did  you  ever  work  with  the  International  Workers 
Order? 


2148     COMMUNIST    ACTIVITIES    IN    THE    NEW    ENGI^AND    AREIA. 

Mr.  Appel.  I  didn't  work,  sir;  I  was  a  member  of  the  Interna- 
tional Workers  Order. 

Mr.  Arens.  Were  you  a  member  of  the  International  Workei-s  Or- 
der simultaneously  with  your  membership  in  the  Communist  Party  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  I  was  a  member  of  the  International  Workers  Order, 
paid  my  dues  there  for  benefits,  and  that  is  all,  sir.  I  did  not  take 
any  active  part  in  it,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Were  you  ever  a  member  of  the  so-called  Jewish  Sec- 
tion of  the  Communist  Party  in  Fall  River? 

Mr.  Appel.  No,  sir ;  I  was  not,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Is  there  or  was  there  such  a  section  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  Not  that  I  know  of ,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Were  you  ever  a  member  of  the  Civil  Rights  Congress  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  I  may  have  been,  but  I  don't  recall,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  I  respectfully  suggest,  Mr.  Chairman,  that  will  conclude 
the  staff  interrogation  of  this  witness. 

Mr.  Moulder.  Mr.  Doyle  ? 

Mr.  Doyle.  Mr.  Appel  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Doyle.  You  were  present  in  the  court  room  all  day,  were  you 
not? 

Mr.  Appel.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Doyle.  I  am  sure  I  saw  you  on  the  second  row  on  the  left 

Mr.  Appel.  That  is  right,  sir. 

Mr.  Doyle. — all  day.  And  I  think  just  a  minute  ago  when  our 
director  here  asked  you  if  you  heard  Mr.  Penha's  statement  this  morn- 
ing  

Mr.  Appel.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Doyle.  I  will  ask  you  if  j^ou  did  hear  it. 

Mr.  Appel.  I  recall  hearing  his  statement,  sir. 

Mr.  Doyle.  I  think  I  heard  you  say  just  a  minute  ago,  referring  to 
his  statement,  and  I  wrote  it  down :  "His  statement  this  morning  was 
absolutely  correct,  as  far  as  I  am  concerned." 

Mr.  Appel.  No — "incorrect." 

Mr.  Doyle.  Oh,  incorrect.  Wliat  part  of  his  statement  was  incor- 
rect? 

Mr.  Appel.  He  made — well,  his  general  statement  about  me  that — 
if  I  recall,  he  said  something  to  the  effect  that  I  was  a  "link"  to  pro- 
fessional people,  and  I  was  a  channel  for  money  and  things  to  that 
effect,  and  that  is  not  true,  sir.     I  deny  that  statement. 

Mr.  Doyle.  Is  there  anything  he  said  about  you  that  was  true? 

Mr.  Appel.  That  is  all  he  said  about  me,  sir.  Oh,  he  also  said  I 
was  a  member  of  some  section  committee  in  Fall  River.  I  was  not 
a  member  of  any  section  committee  in  Fall  River,  sir, 

Mr.  Doyle.  Everything  he  said  about  you  was  false;  is  that  cor- 
rect? 

Mr.  Appel.  As  far  as  I  can  recall,  the  statement  he  made,  as  far  as 
I  remember,  was  incorrect,  sir,  to  my  best  knowledge. 

Mr.  Doyle.  By  using  the  term  "incorrect"  do  you  mean  that  it  was 
false? 

Mr.  Appel.  I  said  "incorrect,"  sir. 

Mr.  Doyle.  Well,  do  you  say  it  was  false  and  untrue  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  Just  one  moment,  sir. 


COMMUNIST  ACTIVITIES   IN   THE    NEW   ENGLAND   AKEA    2149 

(The  witness  conferred  with  his  counsel.) 

Mr.  Appel.  Let  me  put  it  this  way,  sir :  I  don't  know  whether  Mr. 
Penha  deliberately  made  a  misstatement  or  not,  sir;  but  the  facts  as 
he  enunciated  them  were  not  true,  as  far  as  I  was  concerned,  sir. 

Mr.  Doyle.  All  right.  You  heard  all  his  statement.  What  else  in 
the  statement  he  made  about  the  Communist  Party  in  this  area,  as  far 
as  you  know,  was  not  true  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  He  made  a  lot  of  statements,  sir,  and  it  would  be — I 
didn't  take  any  notes  on  his  statements,  so  I  can't  directly  answer  your 
question,  sir. 

Mr.  DoYT.E.  I  noticed  you  were  very  attentive  to  what  was  going 
on ;  and  when  the  press  stepped  over  to  try  to  take  your  picture,  you 
hid  your  face.    You  were  quite  aware  of  what  was  going  on. 

Mr.  Appel.  Correct,  sir. 

Mr.  Doyle.  And  that  is  all  right.  So  you  heard  the  full  statement 
that  Penha  made,  didn't  you  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  I  heard  a  statement,  sir ;  yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Doyle.  Is  there  any  part  of  that  statement  about  the  Com- 
munist Party  operations  in  this  area  which,  to  your  knowledge,  was 
not  true  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  Mr.  Doyle,  sir,  he  made 

Mr.  Doyle.  During  the  20  years  that  you  were  a  member  of  the 
Communist  Party  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  Just  one  moment,  sir. 

(The  witness  conferred  with  his  counsel.) 

Mr.  Appel.  Mr.  Doyle,  sir,  Mr.  Penha  made  a  lot  of  statements, 
primarily  over  a  period  of  time  after  I  dropped  out  of  membership 
of  the  Communist  Party,  sir.  I  am  not  familiar  with  the  functioning 
or  the  activities  of  the  Communist  Party  after  I  dropped  out.  But 
if  the  chairman  will  give  me  a  copy  of  the  transcript,  possibly  I  can 
go  over  the  material  and  point  out  where  he  was — at  the  part  of  time 
I  was  there —  whether  he  was  correct  or  incorrect. 

Mr.  Doyle.  You  stated  a  few  minutes  ago,  in  answer  to  Mr.  Arens' 
question — and  I  wrote  it  down :  "I  was  primarily  concerned  with  being 
an  organizer  for  a  union,  during  those  years.  I  was  concerned  pri- 
marily with  membership."    Do  you  remember  stating  that  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  Membership  in  the  union ;  that  was  my 

Mr.  Doyle.  In  the  union. 

Mr.  Appel.  That  is  in 

Mr.  Doyle.  You  were  a  UE  organizer,  weren't  you  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  No;  I  was  not;  I  was  a  member  of  the  United  Shoe 
Workers  of  America. 

Mr.  Doyle.  Were  you  ever  a  UE  organizer  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  No  ;  I  was  not,  sir. 

Mr.  Doyle.  Did  the  membership  of  the  United  Shoe  Workers  union 
know  that  you  were  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party  while  you  were 
chairman  of  the  local  union  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  Many  of  them  did  know,  sir. 

Mr.  Doyle.  Did  you  ever  announce  it  publicly  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  I  made  no  public  statements  about  it,  sir.  Wlien  the 
person  asked  me  the  question,  I  didn't  deny  it  at  the  time,  sir. 

Mr.  Doyle.  How  many  members  of  the  union — and  I  will  not  ask 
you  their  names ;  but  I  will  tell  you  in  frankness,  that  as  far  as  I  am 
concerned,  I  will  not  ask  you  the  names  but  I  will  ask  general  ques- 


2150     COIMMUNIST   ACTrVTTTEiS   IN    THE    N^W    ENGLAND    AREIA 

tions — How  many  members  of  this  union  of  which  you  were  chair- 
man or  president  were  members  of  the  Communist  Party  at  the  same 
time  you  were  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  It  is  hard  to  assess  that,  sir,  because  the  membership  of 
the  union  fluctuated,  and  the  membership  in  the  Communist  Party 
at  the  time  fluctuated  also,  sir. 

Mr.  Doyle.  Approximately  what  percent  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  What  percentage? 

Mr.  DoTLE.  Yes. 

Mr.  Appel.  Oh,  very  few,  a  very  small  percentage,  sir.  My  local 
union — at  one  time,  the  local  union  had  a  membership  of  2,000,  and 
possibly  there  may  have  been  15  or  20  members  of  the  Communist 
Party  in  that  local  union  at  that  time. 

Mr.  Doyle.  Wlien  your  local  union  had  a  few  thousand  members 
in  it,  were  you  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party  while  you  were 
president  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  Yes,  sir ;  I  was. 

]Mr.  Doyle.  At  the  same  time,  when  you  had  1,000  members  or 
more.  Now,  I  presume  that  the  Communist  Party  members  in  the 
union  held  caucuses;  didn't  they?  You  held  secret  caucuses  for 
planned  work  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  We  held  meetings,  yes,  sir;  a  long  time  ago.  A  long 
time  ago,  sir. 

Mr.  Doyle.  Yes,  of  course.  But  you  held  caucuses  and  no  one  else 
was  present  except  the  Communists  who  were  members  of  the  union ; 
isn't  that  true  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  Yes,  sometimes  we  did.    It  is  true. 

Mr.  Doyle.  It  is  true  all  over  the  country.  In  other  words,  your 
Communist  Party  members  of  this  union — in  which  there  were  a 
thousand  or  more  members,  and  only  15  of  them  were  Communists — 
were  holding  secret  meetings  to  decide  ways  and  means  to  take  con- 
trol and  keep  control  of  the  union  policy ;  isn't  that  true  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  I  don't — to  be  honest  with  you,  sir,  I  am  trying  to  be 
very  honest,  because  it  has  been  a  long  time  ago 

Mr.  Doyle.  Yes.    But  you  have  a  pretty  good  memory. 

Mr.  Appel.  No. 

Mr.  Doyle.  You  are  a  very  able  gentleman.  You  have  a  perfectly 
good  memory  in  my  book. 

Mr.  Appel.  Sir,  can  you  remember  back  25  and  30  years  ago,  and 
20  years  ago  under  certain  circumstances  ? 

Mr.  Doyle.  Yes,  I  can,  on  most  important  events. 

Mr.  Appel.  It  is  very  difficult  for  me,  sir,  to  remember  all  incidents 
and  particularities. 

Mr.  Doyle.  But  you  have  testified  when  Mr.  Arens  was  asking 
about  having  meetings. 

Mr.  Appel.  Yes,  we  did  have  meetings. 

Mr.  Doyle.  And  I  have  had  experience  enough  over  this  country  in 
these  things  to  know  that  the  Communist  Party  members  also  hold 
secret  meetings  to  determine  how  they  can  control  organized  labor; 
and  yours  is  another  case,  apparently,  of  exactly  the  same  thing. 

Mr.  Appel.  Let  me  put  it  this  way 

Mr.  Doyle.  You  held  secret  caucuses  as  Communists,  didn't  you,  to 
determine  who  would  be  elected  as  officers  of  the  union? 


OOMMminST   ACnVITIEiS   IN    THE    NEW    EOSTGLAND    ARElA.    2151 

Mr.  Appel.  On  occasion  we  did ;  yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Doyle.  You  remember  that  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  That  is  right,  sir. 

Mr.  Doyle.  In  fact,  at  no  time  after  you  became  chairman  of  the 
union  and  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party,  did  you  give  up,  as 
chairman  of  the  union,  trying  to  control  the  union  for  the  Communist 
Party  policies,  did  you  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  I  did  not  try  to  control  the  union,  sir. 

Mr.  Doyle.  Why  did  you  hold  secret  meetings,  then,  to  determine 
who  the  officers  would  be  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  It  wasn't  the  question  only  of  officers  at  the  time.  We 
held  meetings  to  see  how  we  could  better  organize  the  union.  The 
union  was  not  fully  organized.  We  were  trying  to  see  what  we  could 
do  to  better  organize  the  union  at  the  time,  sir. 

Mr.  Doyle.  Why  didn't  you  call  in  nonunion  members  or  non-Com- 
munist members  of  the  union  at  these  secret  caucuses  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  We  did,  sir.  We  had  meetings  of  nonunion  and  union 
and  non- Communist  members. 

Mr.  Doyle.  But  you  had  secret  caucuses  of  the  Communist  members. 

Mr.  Appel.  We  did,  sir,  at  times ;  yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Doyle.  Now,  I  want  to  ask  you  again,  to  make  sure  that  the 
record  speaks  clearly:  You  heard  the  preliminary  statement  by  our 
distinguished  subcommittee  chairman  read  this  morning,  didn't  you  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  Yes,  sir ;  I  did. 

Mr.  Doyle.  So  that,  at  that  time,  you  heard  a  perfectly  clear  state- 
ment of  what  pertinent  information  we  were  going  to  ask  for;  isn't 
that  true  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  I  couldn't  quite  understand  the  statement,  sir.  He  read 
it,  and  I  tried  to  follow  it,  but  it  is  very  vague  in  my  mind. 

Mr.  Doyle.  Thank  you. 

Mr.  Arens.  If  the  chairman  please,  I  should  like  to  direct  one  ques- 
tion to  Armando  Penha,  sitting  to  my  right,  with  reference  to  this 
mimeograph  machine,  so  the  record  may  be  clear  on  that. 

Mr.  Moulder.  Very  well.     Proceed. 

TESTIMONY  OF  ARMANDO  PENHA— Eesumed 

Mr.  Arens.  Mr.  Penha,  you  are  still  under  oath. 

Do  you  have  information  respecting  a  mimeograph  machine  which 
you  procured  from  the  witness  who  is  in  the  principal  witness  chair 
now,  Mr.  Appel  ? 

Mr.  Penha.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Kindly  ^ive  us  briefly  the  facts  on  that,  sir. 

Mr.  Penha.  Some  time  in  1951, 1  believe  about  the  middle  of  1951, 
Sam  got  in  touch  with  me.  He  was  quite  nervous  because  of  the  fact 
that  the  State  law  outlawing  Communist  Party  in  1951  had  taken  effect 
in  February,  and  it  seemed  that  it  was  getting  on  his  nerves,  and  he 
wanted  at  this  time  to  dispose  of  any  incriminating  evidence.  He 
had  in  his  possesison  at  that  time  a  Communist  Party  mimeograph 
machine,  which  was  placed  there  in  hiding.  He  wanted  me  to  take  it 
away  from  there,  and  I  went  up  there.  I  took  it,  and  that  was,  of 
course,  reported  to  the  intelligence  agencies  at  the  time,  and  the  loca- 
tion of  it. 


2152    COMMUNIST  AcnvrriES  m  the  new  England  area 

Mr.  Abens.  Wliere  is  it  now,  by  the  way  ? 
Mr.  Penha.  It  is  in  my  home. 

TESTIMONY  OF  SAMUEL  APPEL— Resumed 

Mr.  Arens.  Mr.  Appel,  does  the  statement  now  made  by  Mr.  Penha 
refresh  your  recollection  with  reference  to  the  facts  in  connection  with 
this  mimeograph  machine  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  I  am  trying  to  remember  that,  sir.  It  is  vague.  There 
is  a  vague  recollection  in  my  mind.  It  may  be  possibly  true,  but  I  am 
not  too  sure.  It  is  a  long  time  ago,  and  I  really  can't  visualize  it. 
It  may  be  so,  but  I  am  not  quite  sure. 

Mr.  Arens.  Did  the  enactment  of  this  State  law  have  anything  to 
do  with  your  conclusion  that  you  had  better  disassociate  yourself  from 
the  Communist  Party  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  No;  that  wasn't  the  primary  factor.  I  was  just  plain 
disgust — I  just  gave  up.     That  is  all  there  is  to  it. 

Mr.  Moulder.  You  can  remember  whether  or  not  you  had  a  mimeo- 
graph machine  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  I  am  trying  to  recall  that.  There  is  a  vague  recollection 
in  my  mind.  Maybe  it  is  so,  but  I  am  not  quite  sure  about  it.  As  a 
matter  of  fact,  I  wouldn't  have  recognized  Mr.  Penha. 

Mr.  Penha.  Mr.  Chairman 

Mr.  Moulder.  That  was  only  7  years  ago. 

Mr.  Appel.  Seven  years  ago. 

Mr.  Moulder.  You  surely  recall  whether  or  not  you  had  a  mimeo- 
graph machine  in  your  home. 

Mr.  Appel.  I  don't  place  that — I  don't  remember.  Honestly,  I  am 
not  quite  sure.    It  may  be  so  but  I  am  not 

Mr.  Penha.  Mr.  Chairman  ? 

Mr.  Moulder.  Mr.  Penha,  do  you  wish  to  add  some  additional  state- 
ment? 

Mr.  Penha,  I  would  like  to  assist  ex-comrade  Sam  on  this  point, 
to  refresh  him  where  the  mimeograph  machine  was.  It  was  in  his 
cellar,  about  middleways  against  the  wall,  covered  with  some  old 
blankets.     Maybe  that  would  refresh  his  memory. 

Mr.  Moulder.  All  right.  You  have  heard  that  statement.  Is 
that — - 

Mr.  Appel.  I  heard  the  statement.  It  is  still  the  same.  I  may  have 
had — I  can't  quite  place  it  exactly — it  may  have  been  true.  I  can't 
place  it  exactly. 

Mr.  Doyle.  I  have  one  more  question. 

Mr.  Appel,  I  heard  you  state,  and  I  wrote  it  down  when 
you  said  it — you  said  "I  found  out  it  was  not  good  for  the  United 
States."  That  was  at  the  time  you  withdrew  from  the  Communist 
Party.     You  said  it  was  not  good  for  the  United  States. 

Mr.  Appel.  I  think  I  may  have  said  that,  sir. 

Mr.  Doyle.  I  am  quite  sure  you  made  that  statement,  almost  word 
for  word. 

Now,  what  did  you  find  out  was  not  good  for  the  United  States? 
I  am  not  asking  you  for  names  of  people.  I  am  asking  you  what  you 
discovered  in  the  Communist  outfit,  after  being  in  it  27  years,  that 
was  not  good  for  the  United  States. 


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Mr.  Appel.  I  think  your  number  of  years  is  a  little  bit  incorrect. 

Mr.  Doyle.  How  many  years  was  it,  if  I  am  wrong  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  About  20  years. 

Mr.  Doyle.  20  instead  of  27. 

Mr.  Appel.  Right. 

Mr.  Doyle.  That  isn't  chickenf eed. 

Mr.  Appel.  As  far  as  the  Communist  Party,  I  felt  at  this  time  when 
I  dropped  out  that  it  was  not  in  accordance  with  the  wishes  of  the 
American  people,  that  the  people  were  not  accepting  communism; 
and  I  felt  then  that  I  didn't  think  that  I  should  remain  a  member  of 
an  organization  that  was  not  in  keeping  with  the  American  tradition 
at  the  time. 

Mr.  Moulder.  All  right.    Thank  you. 

Mr.  Kearney  ? 

Mr.  Kearney.  You,  Mr.  "Apple,"  stated  during  your  testimony,  as 
I  recollect,  that  the  statement  of  Mr.  Penha  was  false;  is  that  correct? 

Mr.  Appel.  I  said  I  think  Mr.  Penha's  statement  was  mistaken,  I 
didn't  say  quite 

Mr.  Kearney.  Mr.  Penha  identified  you  as  a  member  of  the  Com- 
munist Party ;  did  he  not  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  Yes ;  he  did,  sir.    I  didn't  deny  it,  sir. 

Mr.  Kearney.  Was  that  part  of  it  false? 

Mr.  Appel.  No,  sir. 

Mr.  Kearney.  I  have  been  looking  over  your  statement  that  you 
handed  to  counsel  this  morning. 

Mr.  Appel.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Kearney.  And  did  I  understand  you  hold  a  B.  A.  from  Ohio 
State  University  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  A  what,  sir  ?     I  didn't  hear  you,  sir. 

Mr.  Kearney.  A  degree  of  B.  A. 

Mr.  Appel.  That  is  right,  sir. 

Mr.  Kearney.  Do  you  believe,  or  did  you  believe,  that  the  Com- 
munist conspiracy  in  this  country,  call  it  the  Communist  Party,  was 
a  political  party? 

Mr.  Appel.  IVhen  I  was  a  member,  I  did  believe  that,  sir. 

Mr.  Kearney.  Well,  how  can  you  reconcile  that  thought  then,  Mr. 
Apple  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  "Appel,"  sir. 

Mr.  Kearney.  Appel,  pardon  me. 

Did  you  object  to  taking  any  directives  from  the  Soviet  Union  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  I  took  no  directives  from  the  Soviet  Union,  sir. 

Mr.  Kearney.  As  a  member  of  the  party,  the  party  was  directed  by 
directives  from  the  Soviet  Union ;  was  it  not  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  I  didn't  know  about  that,  sir.  I  was  not  aware  of  that, 
sir. 

Mr.  Kearney.  Did  you  ever  find  it  out,  after  your  20  years  in  the 
party? 

Mr.  Appel.  I  didn't  find  that  out,  sir,  personally ;  no,  sir. 

Mr.  Kearney.  So  that  you  remained  a  member  ^f  the  Communist 
Party  for  20  years  and  still  didn't  know  what  its  objectives  were? 

Mr.  Appel.  I  did  not  know,  as  you  stated  the  objectives.  I  didn't 
know  they  stated  those  objectives.  To  me  that  wasn't  the  objective. 
That  wasn't  my  objective. 


2154     COMMUNIST    ACTIVmE-S   IN    THE    NEW    ENGLAND    AREA 

Mr.  Kearney.  Did  you  ever  hear  of  one  William  Z.  Foster  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  I  heard  the  name,  sir. 

Mr.  Kearney.  Do  jou  know  \Yho  he  was,  Mr.  Appel  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  Chairman  of  the  Communist  Party  at  one  time,  sir,  I 
believe. 

Mr.  Kearney.  Did  you  ever  read  any  of  his  writings  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  Not  particularly.  I  read  a  statement  of  his  occasion- 
ally.    I  never  read  his  book  or  anything  of  that  sort. 

Mr.  Kearney.  Did  you  ever  read  the  statement  that  I  made  this 
morning,  that  Foster  said,  "when  the  revolution  came " 

Mr.  Appel.  I  did  not  read  that  statement. 

Mr.  Kearney.  That  is  one  statem.ent  you  did  not  read  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  No,  sir ;  I  did  not. 

Mr.  Kearney.  That  has  a  tremendous  bearing  upon  the  American 
way  of  life,  has  it  not,  a  statement  like  that  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  Yes,  sir.  I  disagree  wholeheartedly  with  a  statement  of 
that  kind,  sir. 

Mr.  Kearney.  Did  you  write  this  statement  that  was  given  to 
counsel  this  morning  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  What  was  that,  sir  ? 

Mr.  Kearney.  Did  you  write  this  statement  yourself  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  That  was  with  the  assistance  of  counsel,  sir. 

Mr.  Kearney.  I  will  tell  you  frankly  the  reason  why  I  asked.  In 
looking  it  over,  it  has  so  many  of  the  usual  phrases  characteristic  of 
previous  statements  that  I  have  seen  in  hundreds  of  hearings  that  to 
me  it  is  a  typical  statement  of  the  Communist  Party. 

Mr.  Appel.  This  statement,  sir,  w^as  prepared  with  counsel.  I  had 
very  little  legal  phraseology — it  is  very  raw  and  new  to  me,  sir. 

Mr.  Moulder.  Are  there  any  other  questions  ? 

Mr.  McIntosh.  Did  you  ever  have  any  disagreements  with  party 
policy,  as  it  went  pretty  well  around  and  around  the  barn  during  the 
20-year  period,  with  regard  to  our  foreign  relations? 

Mr.  Appel.  I  didn't  participate,  sir,  in  any  policymaking,  and  I 
didn't  participate  too  much  in  policy  discussions.  I  just  went  along, 
and  that  was  all,  sir. 

Mr.  McIntosh.  Did  you  ever  have  any  difficulty  in  adjusting  your 
own  thinking  to  some  of  the  abrupt  changes  of  policy  of  the  American 
Communist  Party,  in  concurrence  with  the  Russians  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  Well,  there  were — for  instance,  the  time  of  the  Soviet- 
Nazi  Pact,  I  couldn't  quite  follow  that  and  understand  that,  and  said 
so ;  but  that  was  about  it,  sir. 

Mr.  McIntosh.  Didn't  that  move  you  to  disassociate  yourself? 

Mr.  Appel.  Leave?     No;  I  just  stayed  on,  sir. 

Mr.  McIntosh.  I  have  another  question.  You  testified  initially 
that  the  witness  sitting  here  who  has  been  on  the  stand  most  of  the  day 
was  incorrect — I  believe  that  was  the  precise  phrase  you  used — in 
regards  to  several  things  he  said  about  you  personally,  concerning  the 
section  at  Fall  River,  and  your  function,  which  you  said  was  not  your 
function,  and  the  mimeograph  machine  matter. 

Now,  do  I  understand  in  this  recent  exchange  that  you  are  not  quite 
as  prepared  to  challenge  the  correctness  of  this  statement  with  regard 
to  the  mimeograph  machine  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  I  am  not  prepared  to  challenge  that  statement  on  the 
mimeograph  because  I  have  a  vague  recollection,  but  not  a  firm  recol- 


COMMtOSriST   ACTIVITIES.   IN    THE    NEW    EN^GLAND    AREA    2155 

lection.     On  the  other  things,  I  am  very  definitely  challenging  his 
statement,  sir. 

Mr.  McIntosh.  You  did  have  a  basement  in  the  house  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  What  is  that,  sir  ? 

Mr.  McIntosh.  Did  you  have  a  basement  in  the  house  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  I  certainly  have  a  basement  in  the  house. 

Mr.  McIntosh.  Then  without  the  necessity  of  studying  this  record, 
you  paid  close  attention  to  this  witness'  statement.  I  refer  again  to 
the  principal  witness  today.  Are  there  any  other  inaccuracies,  falsi- 
ties, incorrect  statements  with  regard  to  his  entire  testimony  that  you 
would  like  to  point  out  to  this  committee  at  this  time,  based  on  your 
knowledge  of  party  functioning  in  this  general  area  ^ 

Mr.  Ajpel.  Mr.  Penha  testified  from,  primarily  from  the  period 
1950-51  up.  I  dropped  out  of  all  activity  about  1950.  I  am  not 
familiar  with  any  of  the  things  that  went  on  after  that,  sir. 

Mr.  McIntosh.  His  testimony  covered  a  little  greater  scope  than 
that  period  of  time.     I  ask  for  a  direct  answer,  if  you  would : 

Is  there  any  inaccuracy,  falsehood,  or  incorrectness  that  you  care  to 
point  out  at  this  time  with  regard  to  the  testimony  of  this  man  who 
testified  most  of  the  day  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  I  don't  know,  sir — I  don't  know,  I  don't  recall.  As  I 
said,  his  testimony  was  primarily  after  1951. 

Mr.  McIntosh.  Is  your  answer  yes  or  no  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  My  answer  is  "No"  because  I  don't  Iviiow. 

Mr.  Moulder.  May  I  inquire :  You  do  know  the  witness,  Mr.  Penha, 
don't  you  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  As  I  said,  I  recognize  him  very  vaguely  today,  sir. 

Mr.  Moulder.  Do  you  ever  recall  his  being  in  your  home  i 

Mr.  Appel.  I  have  a  vague  recollection  of  him  being  in  my  home, 
sir. 

Mr.  Moulder.  What  was  the  occasion  of  his  visit  to  your  home  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  I  don't  remember,  sir.    I  really  don't  remember. 

Mr.  Moulder.  You  remember  his  being  in  the  home  but  you  do  not 
recall  the  reason  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  I  remember  him  vaguely,  but  I  don't  remember  what  he 
was  doing  there  or  what  he  wanted. 

Mr.  Moulder.  What  other  reason  would  he  have  for  being  there 
except  in  connection  with  the  mimeograph  machine  ? 

Mr.  Appel.  Sir,  this  mimeograph  thing  was  also  a  complete  sur- 
prise because  I  didn't  recall  that  at  all.  I  vaguely  remember  him 
being  in  my  home  once,  and  that  is  all  I  can  recall  of  him  being  there. 
I  don't  know  what  lie  was  tliere  for.  I  don't  remember  what  he  was 
there  for. 

Mr.  JMouLDER.  The  witness  is  excused. 

Mr.  Berlin.  Mr.  Counsel 

Mr.  Arens.  The  next  witness,  if  vou  please,  Mr.  Chairman,  will  be 
Mr.  Otis  Hood. 

Mr.  Appel.  May  I  put  this  in  the  record,  please  ? 

Mr.  Berlin.  May  we  mark  this  for  identification? 

Mr.  Arens.  We  will  handle  that. 

Mr.  Appel.  May  I  put  that  in  the  record  ? 


2156    COMMUNIST  AcrrvrriES  in  the  new  England  area 

Mr.  Berlin.  May  I  mark  the  statement  for  identification  in  the 
event,  Mr.  Chairman,  you  do  not  decide  to  enter  it  in  the  record?  I 
should  like  the  statement  to  be  marked  for  identification. 

Mr.  Moulder.  Yes;  it  will  be  marked  as  "Appel  Exhibit  No.  1," 
offered  by  this  witness. 

Mr.  Berlin.  All  right;  with  the  request  that  it  be  entered  in  the 
file. 

Mr.  Moulder.  It  is  filed. 

(Document  marked  "Appel  Exhibit  No.  1,"  and  retained  in  com- 
mittee files.) 

Mr.  Arens.  The  next  witness,  if  you  please,  Mr.  Chairman,  is  Mr. 
Otis  Hood.  Kindly  come  forward  and  remain  standing  while  the 
chairman  administers  the  oath  to  you. 

Mr.  Moulder.  Do  you  solemnly  swear  that  the  testimony  which 
you  are  about  to  give  before  this  subcommittee  will  be  the  truth,  the 
whole  truth,  and  nothing  but  the  truth,  so  help  you  God  ? 

Mr.  Hood.  I  do. 

Mr.  Arens.  Have  a  seat,  please. 

Mr.  Hood.  May  I  stand,  if  you  don't  mind  ? 

Mr.  Moulder.  You  may  be  seated. 

Mr.  Hood.  Wliat? 

Mr.  Moulder.  You  may  be  seated. 

Mr.  Hood.  You  prefer  that  I  be  seated  ? 

Mr.  Moulder.  Yes. 

Mr.  Hood.  I  would  rather  stand  up,  but  if  you  insist,  I  will  sit. 

TESTIMONY  OF  OTIS  ARCHEE  HOOD 

Mr.  Arens.  Kindly  identify  yourself  by  name,  residence,  and  oc- 
cupation. 

Mr.  Hood.  My  name  is  Otis  Archer  Hood.  I  live  at  33  Fayston 
Street,  Roxbury,  and  I  am  a  commercial  sculptor. 

Mr.  Arens.  Mr.  Hood,  we  do  not  propose  in  this  interrogation,  to 
interrogate  you  with  reference  to  a  number  of  items  which  have  been 
the  subject  of  public  testimony  before  a  number  of  forums.  We  have 
only  one  or  two  questions  we  want  to  pose  to  you. 

First,  I  should  ask :  You  are  appearing  today  in  response  to  a  sub- 
pena  which  was  served  upon  you? 

Mr.  Hood.  That  is  correct. 

Mr.  Arens.  And  you  are  not  represented  by  counsel  ? 

Mr.  Hood.  I  am  not. 

Mr.  Arens.  You  know  you  have  the  privilege  of  counsel  ? 

Mr.  Hood.  I  know. 

Mr.  Arens.  Mr.  Hood,  this  morning  there  was  testimony  with  ref- 
erence to  yourself  being  a  beneficiary  of  a  will  which  was  drawn  by 
Maud  D'haze.     Did  you  know  that  lady  ? 

Mr.  Hood.  I  will  decline  to  answer  that  question  under  the  first 
amendment;  that  my  knowledge  and  my  association  with  other  people 
is  protected  by  the  first  amendment  of  the  United  States  Constitution, 
and  I  cannot  be  compelled  to  talk  about  my  associations,  my  affilia- 
tions, and  so  forth. 

Mr.  AitENS.  Mr.  Chairaian,  I  respectfully  suggest  now  that  the 
witness  be  ordered  and  directed  to  answer  that  question. 


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Mr.  Moulder.  The  witness  is  so  ordered  and  directed  to  answer 
the  question ;  and  in  connection  with  that  request,  may  I  say  that  this 
direction  is  not  given  in  the  spirit  of  threats  or  coercion,  but  for  the 
purpose  of  advising  and  informing  you  of  the  possible  danger  of 
your  being  guilty  of  contempt  of  Congi'ess. 

Mr.  Arens.  May  I  further  explain,  if  you  please,  Mr.  Chairman, 
the  pertinency,  by  saying  we  have  testimony  to  the  effect  that  this 
lady,  who  is  now  deceased,  made  a  will  of  which  you  were  one  of  the 
beneficiaries — you,  among  others — and  certain  of  that  money  was 
channeled  to  the  Communist  Party.  Now,  would  you  kindly  answer 
the  question  ? 

Mr.  Hood.  I  will  decline  to  answer  the  question  because  I  think  that 
it  might  open  up  a  whole  line  of  questions.  Somewhere  along  the 
line  might  be  questions  which  I  would  refuse  to  answer  on  the  grounds 
of  the  fifth  amendment,  which  protects  me  from  being  compelled  to 
be  a  witness  against  myself.  Therefore,  I  will  refuse  to  answer  that 
question  on  the  grounds  of  the  fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Arens.  Were  you  a  beneficiary  of  the  will  of  Maud  D'haze  ? 

Mr.  Hood.  I  will  refuse  to  answer  this  question  mider  the  same 
grounds. 

Mr.  Moulder.  May  I  ask  the  witness:  You  have  been  present 
in  the  hearing  room  during  all  of  this  day  ? 

Mr.  Hood.  Yes.     It  has  been  a  very  boring  experience. 

Mr.  Moulder.  You  heard  the  testimony  of  the  other  witnesses  and 
heard  the  statement  made  by  counsel  concerning  our  interest  in  the 
operation  of  the  Communist  Party,  as  to  its  financial  assistance  and 
how  it  recives  financial  assistance  and  also  our  interest  and  desire  to 
pass  legislation  which  has  been  mentioned  by  counsel.  All  of  that 
you  have  heard. 

Mr.  Hood.  I  have  heard. 

Mr.  Moulder.  And  thoroughly  understood;  is  that  correct? 

Mr.  Hood.  That  is  right. 

Mr.  Moulder.  Again,  after  that  statement  then,  the  Chair  does 
order  and  direct  the  witness  to  answer  the  question. 

Mr.  Hood.  You  are  ordering  me  again  to  answer  the  question? 

Mr.  jMoulder.  Yes. 

Mr.  Hood.  I  will  decline  to  answer  on  the  grounds  of  the  fifth 
amendment  to  the  United  States  Constitution. 

Mr.  Arens.  Just  so  the  record  can  be  brought  up  to  date  are  you 
now,  on  March  18,  1958,  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party  ? 

Mr.  Hood.  That  would  be  a  very  difficult  question  to  answer  truth- 
fully under  the  circumstances.  I  heard  the  Communist  Party  de- 
scribed here  this  morning  in  words  and  form  of  description  that  I 
could  not  recognize  the  existence  of  any  such  organzation.  Certainly 
I  was  never  connected  with  any  such  organization  that  I  would 
recognize  by  that  description. 

Mr.  Arens.  Did  you  know  the  man  who  made  the  description,  Mr. 
Penha  ? 

Mr.  Hood,  That  I  will  have  to  refuse  to  answer,  also. 

Mr.  Arens.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  respectfully  suggest  that  will  conclude 
the  staff  interrogation  of  this  witness. 

Mr.  Moulder.  Mr.  Doyle,  have  you  any  questions  ? 

Mr.  Doyle.  No  questions. 


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Mr.  Moulder.  Mr.  Kearney? 

Mr.  Kearney.  Just  a  couple,  Mr.  Hood.  Your  voice  dropped  there 
a  little. 

Mr.  Hood.  Maybe  I  got  away  from  the  mike. 

Mr.  Kearney.  I  think  I  heard  you  right — I  understood  you  to  say, 
in  answer  to  a  question,  "Yes,  and  these  hearings  were  very  boring"  ? 

Mr.  Hood.  Yes,  sir ;  to  me  they  were  very  boring. 

Mr.  Kearney.  As  boring  as  running  for  Governor  of  the  State  of 
Massachusetts  ? 

Mr.  Hood.  What  is  that? 

Mr.  Kearney.  Was  it  as  boring  to  you  as  running  for  Governor 
of  the  State  of  Massachusetts  ? 

Mr.  Hood.  I  will  decline  to  answer  that  question,  sir. 

Mr.  Kearney.  That  is  all. 

Mr.  Moulder.  Mr.  Mcintosh,  have  you  any  questions? 

Mr.  McIntosh.  I  have  no  questions. 

Mr.  Moulder.  The  witness  is  excused. 

Mr.  Arens.  The  next  witness,  if  you  please,  Mr.  Chairman,  is  Anne 
Burlak  Timpson. 

Kindly  come  forward  and  remain  standing  while  the  chairman 
administers  an  oath. 

Mr.  Moulder.  Hold  up  your  right  hand  and  be  sworn. 

Do  you  solemnly  swear  that  the  testimony  that  you  are  about  to 
give  before  the  subcommittee  will  be  the  truth,  the  whole  truth,  and 
nothing  but  the  truth,  so  help  you  God. 

Mrs.  TiMPSON.  I  do. 

TESTIMONY    OF    ANNE    BTJRLAK    TIMPSON,    ACCOMPANIED    BY 
COUNSEL,  WILLIAM  P.  HOMANS,  JR. 

Mr.  Arens.  Kindly  identify  yourself  by  name,  residence,  and 
occupation. 

Mrs.  Timpson.  Is  this  drinkable?  Is  that  water  for  us?  Is  that 
for  me  ?   Is  that  water  drinkable  ? 

Mr.  HoMANS.  The  witness  wanted  to  know  if  she  may  drink  the 
water  ?    Has  it  been  used  by  someone  else  ? 

Mrs.  TiMPSON.  May  I  have  a  drink  ?  This  is  a  fresh  glass  of  water  ? 
Thank  you,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Kindly  identify  yourself  by  name,  residence,  and 
occupation. 

Mrs.  Timpson.  My  name  is  Anne  Burlak  Timpson.  I  live  at  11 
Wabeno  Street,  in  Roxbury,  Massachusetts.  Primarily  I  am  a  home- 
maker. 

Mr.  Arens.  You  are  appearing  today  in  response  to  a  subpena 
which  was  served  upon  you  by  the  Committee  on  Un-American 
Activities  ? 

Mrs.  Timpson.  That  is  right,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  And  you  are  represented  b}''  counsel  ? 

Mrs.  Timpson.  Yes,  sir;  I  am. 

Mr.  Arens.  Counsel  kindly  identify  yourself. 

Mr.  HoMANs.  My  name  is  William  P.  Homans,  Jr.  I  have  offices 
at  1  Court  Street,  Boston. 

Mr.  Arens.  You  said  primarily  you  were  a  homemaker.  Do  you 
have  another  activity  that  is  less  than  that  which  is  primary  in  which 
you  are  engaged  ? 


COMMUNIST    ACTIVITIEiS   IN    THE    NEW    ENGLAND    AREA    2159 

Mrs.  TiMPSON.  I  have  a  part-time  clerical  job. 

Mr.  Arens.  "V\^iere  are  you  employed  ? 

Mrs.  TiMPSON.  I  would  like  you  to  explain  to  me  what  pertinency 
that  has  to  your  hearing. 

Mr.  Arens.  I  will  be  delighted  to  do  so. 

This  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  is  undertaking  to 
marshal  facts  on  which  it  can  legislate  or  recommend  legislation  to 
protect  this  country  against  the  Communist  conspiracy.  You  have 
been  identified  repeatedly — publicly  and  privately — as  a  member  of 
that  conspiracy.  If  you  will  tell  us  now  where  you  have  been  em- 
ployed that  information,  added  to  other  information  that  we  have, 
will  help  this  committee  in  the  task  in  which  we  are  engaged. 

Now,  would  you  kindly  answer  the  question  ? 

( The  witness  conferred  with  her  counsel. ) 

Mrs.  TiMPSON.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  refuse  to  answer  that  question  be- 
cause it  has  no  pertinencv  at  all  to  this  hearing. 

Mr.  Arens.  In  view  of  the  explanation,  I  respectfully  suggest,  Mr. 
Chairman,  that  the  witness  be  ordered  and  directed  to  answer  the 
question. 

Mr.  Moulder.  The  witness  is  so  ordered  and  directed.  As  I  stated 
to  the  other  witnesses  while  you  were  here  in  the  hearing  room,  the 
direction  is  not  given  in  a  spirit  of  threat  or  coercion,  but  to  advise 
and  inform  you  of  the  possible  dangers  of  your  being  guilty  of  contempt 
of  Congress. 

Mi'S.  TiMPSON.  Mr.  Chairman,  there  have  been  many  people  fired 
from  their  jobs  as  a  result  of  hearings  just  like  this.  Is  it  pertinent  to 
the  work  of  your  committee  to  add  another  person  to  the  list  of  the 
unemployed  in  this  country  ? 

Mr.  Moulder.  That  is  not  responsive  to  the  question.  You  are 
again  directed  to  answer  the  question. 

Mrs.  TiMPSON.  I  will  stand  on  my  constitutional  rights  of  the  first 
amendment,  and  refuse  to  answer  that  question. 

Mr.  Arens.  We  have  just  two  other  matters  we  want  to  pursue  with 
you.  We  don't  want  to  go  into  matters  that  have  already  been  gone 
into.  We  want  to  go  into  matters  which  are  pertinent  to  the  general 
area  of  this  inquiry. 

Where  were  you  born  ? 

Mrs.  TiMPSON.  In  the  United  States,  sir,  in  Pennsylvania. 

Mr.  Arens.  Now,  please  tell  us,  have  you  ever  applied  for  a  United 
States  passport  as  a  citizen  of  the  United  States  ? 

(The  witness  conferred  with  her  counsel.) 

Mrs.  TiMPSON.  Do  you  want  me  to  answer  now  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  Yes,  please. 

Mrs.  TiMPSON.  Yes,  I  have  traveled  abroad. 

Mr.  Arens.  When? 

Mrs.  TiMPSON.  And  I  have  applied — naturally,  have  had  to  have 
a  passport. 

Mr.  Arens.  Yes.    Kindly  tell  us  when  you  traveled  abroad. 

Mrs.  TiMPSON.  1931,  and  again  in  1935, 1  think. 

Mr.  Arens.  Have  you  traveled  abroad  at  any  time  since  1935  ? 

Mrs.  TiMPSON.  No,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Did  you  travel  with  a  United  States  passport? 

Mrs.  TiMPSON.  Yes,  sir. 

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Mr.  Arens.  "Where  did  you  go,  please  ? 

Mrs.  TiMPSON.  Wait  just  a  minute. 

(The  witness  conferred  with  her  counsel.) 

Mr.  Arens.  Kindly  answer  the  question. 

Mr.  Moulder.  Will  the  reporter  read  the  last  question. 

(The  record  was  read  by  the  reporter.) 

Mrs.  TiMPSON.  Well,  I  traveled  through  England,  France,  Poland, 
Soviet  Union ;  coming  back  I  went  through  Denmark  and  Stockliolm. 

Mr.  Arens.  Was  it  in  the  thirties  that  you  went  to  the  Soviet  Union  ? 

Mrs.  TiMPSON.  Yes.     That  is  the  only  time  I  went  abroad. 

Mr.  Arens.  Were  you  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party  at  the 
time  you  traveled  in  the  Soviet  Union  ? 

Mrs,  TiMPSON.  Now  you  are  entering  into  the  area  of  political  be- 
liefs and  associations,  and  that  I  am  protected  by  the  Constitution  of 
the  United  States.  I  am  not  going  to  be  a  party  to  violating  that 
Constitution,  with  you  or  anybody  else. 

Mr.  Arens.  Are  you  now  a  member  of  an  organization  dedicated 
to  the  forcible  overthrow  of  the  Government  of  the  United  States  and 
the  destruction  of  that  Constitution  ? 

Mrs.  TiMPSON.  I  am  opposed  to  force  and  violence  in  any  form,  sir ; 
and  I  would  not  belong  to  an  organization  that,  to  my  knowledge, 
advocated  force  and  violence. 

Mr.  Arens.  Are  you  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party  today  ? 

Mrs.  TiMPSON.  That  you  have  no  right  to  ask  me  under  our  present 
Constitution,  and  you  have  been  so  informed  by  the  Supreme  Court 
of  the  United  States. 

Mr.  Arens.  I  respectfully^  suggest  that  the  witness  be  ordered  and 
directed  to  answer  that  question. 

Mr.  Moulder.  Does  the  Communist  Party  believe  in  the  overthrow 
of  our  present  form  of  Government  by  force  and  violence  ? 

Mrs.  TiMPSON.  I  have  never  heard,  anywhere  in  my  presence,  any- 
one advocate  the  overthrow  of  the  United  States  Government  by  force 
and  violence.     I  would  oppose  any  kind  of  such  suggestion. 

Mr.  Moulder.  Do  you  know  whether  or  not  the  Communist  Party 
advocates  the  change  of  our  Government  by  force  and  violence  ? 
^  Mrs.  TiMPSON.  I  have  never  heard  of  any  one  in  my  presence  at  any 
time  advocate  force  and  violence  or  force  and  violent  overthrow  of 
the  United  States  Government. 

Mr.  Arens.  Just  so  we  can  bring  the  record  to  date:  Are  you 
now  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party  ? 

Mrs.  TiMPSON.  That  question  I  will  have  to  decline  to  answer  on 
the  basis  of  the  first  amendment  of  the  Constitution,  because  you  are 
invading  my  rights,  my  political  rights  of  beliefs  and  associations,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Do  you  have  another  reason  ? 

Mrs.  TiMPSON.  That  is  sufficient.  That  is  what  the  Constitution 
says. 

Mr.  Arens.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  respectfully  suggest  that  the  witness 
be  ordered  and  directed  to  answer  the  question  whether  or  not  she  is 
a  member  of  the  Communist  Party. 

Mrs.  TiMPSON.  Don't  threaten  me,  sir. 

Mr.  Moulder.  The  witness  is  directed  to  answer  the  question. 

Mr.  HoMANS.  I  will  advise  you,  Mrs.  Timpson,  that  under  the  Con- 
stitution and  the  fifth  amendment  to  the  Constitution,  it  is  not  neces- 


COMMUNIST   ACTIVITIEiS   IN    THE    NEW    ENGLAND    AREA    2161 

sary  that  you  have  committed  a  crime  in  order  for  you  to  legitimately 
avail  yourself  of  the  privilege  of  the  fifth  amendment.  It  need  only 
be  that  the  question  may  tend  to  incriminate  you,  and  the  courts  have 
held  that  you  need  not  be  guilty  of  a  crime  in  order  to  safeguard  and 
avail  yourself  of  the  provisions  of  the  fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Moulder.  I  order  and  direct  the  witness  to  answer  the  question. 

Mrs.  TiMPSON.  On  the  basis  of  that,  I  will  decline  to  answer  on 
the  basis  of  the  fifth  amendment,  which  says  I  do  not  have  to  be  a 
witness  against  myself. 

Mr.  Moulder.  Very  well.  Proceed  with  the  next  question,  Mr. 
Arens. 

Mr.  Arens.  Now,  I  should  like  to  ask  you  about  the  finances  of 
the  Communist  Party. 

I  hold  in  my  hand  a  photostatic  copy  of  a  will  made  by  Maud 
D'haze,  written  by  her,  dated  May  15,  1953,  in  which  you,  among 
others,  are  named  as  a  beneficiary. 

Did  you  receive  property  pursuant  to  the  will  of  Maud  D'haze  ? 

Mrs.  TiMPSON.  Will  you  explain  what  that  has  to  do  with  this 
hearing,  and  with  the  thing  you  are  investigating  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  Yes,  I  will  be  glad  to,  in  anticipation,  that  you  will 
answer  the  question. 

This  Committee  on  Un-American  Activities  is  trying  to  develop 
factual  material  which  it  may  use  in  appraising  legislation  to  safe- 
guard this  country  against  the  operations  of  the  Communist  con- 
spiracy. 

One  of  the  areas  of  inquiry  relates  to  Communist  Party  finances. 
We  have  information,  which  is  on  this  record  today  by  a  live  witness 
under  oath,  to  the  effect  that  you,  among  others,  received  certain 
property  from  Maud  D'haze  who  had  been  a  Communist  prior  to  her 
demise;  that  you,  as  a  Communist,  transmitted  some  of  that  property, 
at  least,  to  the  Communist  Party. 

Now,  please  answer  the  question. 

(The  witness  conferred  with  her  counsel.) 

Mrs.  TiMPSON.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  can't  for  the  life  of  me 

Mr.  Moulder.  Just  one  moment,  will  you,  please?  Mr.  Mcintosh 
is  recognized. 

Mr.  McIntosh.  I  just  wanted  to  get  straight  with  you,  Counsel, 
that  while  we  have  no  objection  to  your  advising  your  client  publicly 
or  privately,  as  you  wish,  that  the  previous  advice  given  to  your 
client  into  the  microphone  was  your  choice  and  not  ours.  I  mean 
we  are  not  infringing  on  the  privacy  of  your  advice. 

Mr.  Homans.  I  understand  that,  Congressman. 

Mr.  McIntosh.  We  like  to  get  some  of  these  things  clear. 

Mr.  HoMANS.  Thank  you  very  much,  Mr.  Congressman. 

Mr.  Moulder.  Now,  you  may  give  your  answer  to  the  question. 

Mrs.  TiMPSON.  I  lost  the  question,  I  am  afraid. 

Mr.  Arens.  The  question  is :  Did  you  receive  property  pursuant  to 
the  will  of  Maud  D'haze  ? 

Mrs.  TiMPSON.  I  can't  see  where  receiving  property  of  any  kind 
under  a  will  has  anything  at  all  to  do  with  the  issue  which  you  are 
investigating  here.  Congressman. 

Mr.  Arens.  Now,  Mr.  Chairman,  I  respectfully  suggest  that  the 
witness  be  ordered  and  directed  to  answer  the  question. 


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Mr.  Moulder.  The  witness  is  directed  to  answer  the  question. 

Mrs.  TiMPSON.  Then  I  shall  have  to  decline  to  answer  that  question 
on  the  basis  of  the  first  amendment  of  the  Constitution  and  the  fifth 
amendment. 

Mr.  Arexs.  Yes,  I  will  be  glad  to,  in  anticipation  that  you  will 
say  "I  shall  have  to  decline."    You  don't  have  to  decline. 

Mrs.  TiMPSON.  I  mean  I  will  decline.     I  have  that  privilege,  sir. 

Mr.  Kearney.  That  is  right;  you  have.  You  can  just  say  "I  de- 
cline."    You  don't  have  to  say  "I  have  to  decline." 

Mrs.  TnMPSON.  Thank  you. 

Mr.  Arens.  Mr.  Chairman,  although  there  are  a  number  of  items 
we  could  pursue  with  this  witness,  they  are  items  which  have  been  the 
subject  of  inquiry  by  our  committee,  both  publicly  and  in  executive 
session,  and  in  view  of  the  press  of  time  and  desire  to  avoid  duplication 
of  eli'ort,  I  respectfully  suggest  tliis  will  conclude  the  stall'  interro- 
gation of  this  witness. 

Mr.  Moulder.  Mr.  Doyle,  do  you  have  any  questions  ? 

Mr.  Doyle.  You  stated  that  you  liave  never  heard  anyone  state  in 
your  presence  that  the  Communist  Party  stood  for  force  and  violence. 
I  presume  from  your  statements,  and  what  I  heard  of  you,  that  you 
are  pretty  well  read  on  the  objectives  and  principles  of  the  Commu- 
nist Party.    Is  that  true  ? 

Mrs.  TiMPSON.  I  read  many  things,  sir. 

Mr.  Doyle.  There  is  certainly  no  reason  why  a  person  should 
not  be  well  read  and  be  as  well  informed  and  enlightened  as  possible. 

Mrs.  TiMPSON.  That  is  right.  A  i)erson  should  read  everything. 
President  Eisenhower  said  we  should  read  everything,  including  books 
issued  by  the  Communists. 

Mr.  Doyle.  This  Nation,  thank  God — its  origin  is  based  upon  honest 
differences  of  opinion.    True? 

Mrs.  TiMPsoN.  Granted. 

Mr.  Doyle.  I  understand  that  and  fight  for  that. 

Mrs.  TiMPsoN.  Granted. 

Mr.  Doyle.  And  you  have  a  perfect  right  to  read  literature  if  you 
want  to : 

Now  I  am  asking  you  again  if  it  is  not  a  fact  that  you  have  read 
Communist  Party  literature  ? 

Mrs.  TiMPSON.  I  have  read  both  Communist  and  non-Communist 
literature. 

Mr.  Doyle.  All  right.  Now,  on  the  subject  of  force  and  violence, 
I  refer  to  a  recent  book  by  J.  Edgar  Hoover,  just  off  the  press,  and  I 
refer  to  page  345.  He  quotes  Mr.  Lenin,  whom  I  assume  you  have 
read: 

The  replacement  of  the  bourgeois  by  the  proletarian  state  is  impossible 
without  a  violent  revolution. 

And  then  Mr.  J.  Edgar  Hoover,  head  of  our  FBI,  on  page  7,  said: 
"William  Z.  Foster" — whom  no  doubt  you  have  heard  about  and  read 
about : 

William  Z.  Foster,  long-time  head  of  the  Communist  movement  in  our  country, 
has  boasted  that  the  Communist  revolution,  after  the  actual  seizure  of  power, 
would  "develop  even  more  swiftly"  than  the  Russian. 

All  industry  would  be  nationalized  and  farms  taken  away  from  their  owners. 
A  small-business  man  is  just  as  guilty  as  a  large  businessman ;  both  must  be 
liquidated.    Rents,  profits,  and  insurance  would  be  abolished.    Countless  occu- 


COMMUNTST    ACnVITIEiS   IN    THE    NEW    ENGLAND    AREA    2163 

pations,  termed  by  the  Communists  as  "useless  and  parasitic,"  would  be  ended. 
Here  is  a  part  of  their  list:  wholesalers,  jobbers,  real-estate  men  and  stock- 
brokers, advertising  specialists,  traveling  salesmen,  lawyers,  "whole  rafts  of 
government  bureaucrats,  police,  clericals,  and  sundry  capitalist  quacks,  fakers, 
and  grafters."  The  Communists  have  a  special  disdain  for  lawyers.  Perhaps 
it  is  because  there  will  be  no  need  for  lawyers  when  there  are  no  rights  to 
defend.     At  any  rate,  Foster  has  said,  "The  pest  of  lawyers  will  be  abolished." 

Action  would  be  drastic,  immediate,  and  without  appeal.  An  armed  "Red 
Guard"  would  enforce  the  orders  of  party  henchmen.  Hotels,  country  clubs,  and 
swimming  pools  would  be  used  for  the  benefit  of  "workers,"  meaning,  in  most 
cases,  party  bosses.  The  workingman  in  the  mines,  factories,  and  mills  would 
be  told  to  work  certain  hours  for  certain  wages. 

Mr.  D0T1.E.  Now  I  skip  and  read  one  thing  more 

Mrs.  TiMrsoN.  What  is  that  you  are  reading,  sir  ? 

Mr.  Doyle.  I  am  reading  the  book  of  J.  Edgar  Hoover.  I  invite 
you  to  read  it.     It  is  just  off  the  press. 

Mrs.  TiMPSON.  Would  you  mind  giving  me  a  copy  ? 

Mr.  DoTLE.  It  costs  $5. 

Mrs.  TiMPSON,  You  don't  think  I  want  to  invest  that  much? 

Mr.  Doyle.  If  I  thought  it  w^ould  convert  you  out  of  communism 
I  would  get  you  one. 

Mrs.  TiMPSON.  You  might  try, 

Mr.  Doyle.  Let  me  read  just  one  more  paragraph,  and  this  deals 
with  the  subject  of  force  and  violence.  As  I  noticed,  you  quite  proudly 
stated  you  never  heard  it  mentioned  in  your  presence. 

Mrs.  TiMPSON,  That  is  right. 

Mr.  Doyle.  Here  is  what  Mr.  Hoover  says  on  page  21 : 

What  about  force  and  violence?  Must  they  be  used?  Marx  emphasized  that 
capitalist  society,  most  naturally,  would  not  voluntarily  turn  over  its  factories, 
banks,  and  money  to  the  workers.  Moreover,  it  would  probably  organize  a 
"counter-revolution" — which  means,  defending  itself.  Hence,  under  the  leader- 
ship of  the  Communist  Party,  the  workers  must,  if  necessary,  be  prepared  to  use 
force,  that  is,  violent  revolution.  If  the  capitalists  submit  peacefully,  good ; 
if  they  resist,  slaughter  them. 

Mr.  Doyle.  Yes,  you  can  laugh.  I  notice  you  are,  but  anything 
that  J.  Edgar  Hoover  says,  I  think,  is  taken  by  the  great  mass  of 
the  American  public  as  pretty  near  fact,  instead  of  what  the  Com- 
munist Party  or  any  of  its  members  say  in  this  country,  thank  God. 

Mrs.  TuiPSON".  What  is  your  question,  sir  ? 

Mr.  Doyle.  I  have  no  question. 

Mrs.  TiMPSON.  Oh,  it  was  just  a  free  lecture. 

Mr.  Doyle.  I  just  wanted  to  read  you  this,  much  as  I  loiow — 

Mrs.  TiMPSON.  Thank  you. 

Mr.  Doyle. — it  is  something  you  are  familiar  with,  as  far  as  the 
statements  of  Marx  and  Lenin  are  concerned,  although  you  do  not 
admit  it. 

That  is  all. 

Mr.  INIouLDER.  Mr.  Kearney,  do  you  have  any  questions? 

Mr.  Kearney.  I  have  no  questions. 

Mr.  Moulder.  Mr.  Mcintosh? 

Mr  McIntosii.  No  questions. 

Mr.  Moulder.  Have  you  any  additional  questions,  Mr.  Arens? 

Mr.  Arens.  No  thank  you,  sir. 

Mr,  Moulder.  The  witness  is  excused. 


2164   (X)iMMTJNTST  AcnvrriES  nsr  the  new  England  area 

Mr.  Arens.  The  next  witness,  if  you  please,  Mr.  Chairman — and 
may  I  advise,  this  will  be  the  last  witness  called  today — is  Mr.  Joseph 
Sherman. 

Kindly  come  forward  and  remain  standing  while  the  chairman 
administers  the  oath. 

Mr.  Sherman.  No  pictures — ^you  said  "No  pictures,"  and  I  want 
instructions. 

That  is  very  nice.  Here  we  are  trying  to  figure  out  order — I  don't 
care. 

Mr.  Kearney.  According  to  the  rules  of  this  committee,  the  press 
has  the  right  to  take  pictures  of  a  witness  before  he  testifies  but 
not  while  he  is  testifying. 

Mr.  Sherman.  If  I  was  to  ask  to  destroy  these  pictures  because 
the  committee  has  asked  20  times  not  to  take  these  pictures,  and  these 
pictures  are  taken — there  you  go  again,  on  top  of  it. 

Now,  go  ahead.  That  "is  very  nice.  The  committee  is  holding  out 
an  order.     Take  more.     I  haven't  taken  pictures  in  a  long  time. 

Mr.  Moulder.  Will  you  be  sworn  as  a  witness  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  Kindly  stand  while  the  chairman  administers  the  oath 
to  you. 

Mr.  Sherman.  I  am  sorry. 

Mr.  Moulder.  Do  you  solemnly  swear  the  testimony  you  are  about 
to  give  before  this  subcommittee,  will  be  the  truth,  the  whole  truth, 
and  nothing  but  the  truth,  so  help  you  God  ? 

Mr.  Sherman.  I  do. 

TESTIMONY  OF  JOSEPH  SHERMAN,  ACCOMPANIED  BY  COUNSEL, 
GABRIEL  KANTROVITZ 

Mr.  Arens.  Kindly  identify  yourself  by  name,  residence,  and 
occupation. 

Mr.  Sherman.  My  name  is  Joseph  Sherman.  I  live  at  38  Walnut 
Park,  Roxbury,  Massachusetts.  I  am  a  truck  driver  on  a  cleaning 
establishment. 

Mr.  Arens.  Would  it  be  convenient  for  you  to  keep  your  voice  up, 
please,  sir? 

Would  you  kindly  give  us  your  occupation  again!  I  don't  believe 
it  was  clear  to  the  stenographer. 

Mr.  Sherman.  I  am  a  truck  driver  for  a  cleaning  establishment. 

Mr.  Moulder.  May  I  admonish  the  witness  in  this  respect :  He  was 
speaking  very  loud  and  clearly  one  moment  ago,  and  we  could  hear 
you,  but  now  we  cannot  hear  you. 

Mr.  Sherman.  Unless  this  thing  doesn't  carry — I  am  trying  to  speak 
right  next  into  it. 

Mr.  Moulder.  That  one  in  front  of  you  is  the  one  you  should  use. 

Mr.  Sherman.  This? 

Mr.  Moulder.  That  is  correct. 
.    Mr.  Sherman.  I  am  a  truck  driver  for  a  cleaning  establishment, 
that  is,  servicing  the  public,  cleaning  and  pressing  of  garments. 

Mr.  Arens.  In  what  city,  please  ? 

Mr.  Sherman.  Greater  Boston. 

Mr.  Arens.  You  are  appearing  today  in  response  to  a  subjDena 
which  was  served  upon  you  by  the  House  Committee  on  Un-American 
Activities. 


COMMUNTST   ACTIVITIEiS   IN    THE    N^W    EOSTGLAND    AREA    2165 

Mr.  Shekman.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  And  you  are  represented  by  counsel  ? 

Mr.  Sherman.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Counsel,  kindly  identify  yourself. 

Mr.  Kantrovitz.  Gabriel  Kantrovitz,  294  Washington  Street, 
Boston. 

Mr.  Arens.  Mr.  Sherman,  where  and  when  were  you  born  ? 

Mr.  Sherman.  I  was  born  in  Poland,  1906. 

Mr.  Moulder.  I  didn't  hear  you. 

Mr.  Sherman.  I  was  born  in  Poland,  1906. 

Mr.  Arens.  "When  did  you  come  to  the  United  States  ? 

Mr.  Sherman.  I  came  to  the  United  States  on  August  21, 1  believe, 
1920. 

Mr.  Arens.  Are  you  a  citizen  of  the  United  States  ? 

Mr.  Sherman.  No,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  You  are  an  alien  ? 

Mr.  Sherman.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Have  you  ever  applied  for  naturalization  ? 

Mr.  Sherman.  Well,  there  is  a  long  story,  sir,  if  I  am  permitted, 
and  it  is  necessary  in  explanation  here.  It  cannot  be  answered  Yes 
or  No.   If  I  am  permitted ? 

Mr.  Moulder.  The  committee  members  cannot  hear  you. 

Mr.  Arens.  Use  about  the  same  volume  on  your  voice  that  you  did 
when  you  were  protesting  the  pictures  a  few  moments  ago — we  heard 
you  then. 

Mr.  Sherman.  Would  it  help  if  I  stood  up  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  Just  raise  your  voice,  please,  sir. 

Mr.  Sherman.  I  would  like  to  ask  the  committee  for  an  explana- 
tion in  answering  this  question,  because  this  is  a  question  that  cannot 
be  answered  Yes  or  No.  If  I  am  permitted,  I  would  answer  this 
question  because  there  is  a  long  story 

Mr.  Arens.  Just  answer  the  simple  question :  Have  you  ever  filed 
an  application  for  naturalization  ? 

Mr.  Sherman.  Again  I  must  say  that  there  is  a  reason  why  I  did 
not  file.   After  I  had  found  that 

Mr.  Moulder.  Answer  the  question,  and  then  give  your  reason. 

Mr.  Arens.  Did  you  file  ? 

Mr.  Sherman.  I  did  not,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Are  you  now,  or  have  you  ever  been,  a  member  of  the 
Communist  Party  ? 

Mr.  Sherman.  I  must  decline,  sir,  to  answer  that  on  the  ground 
that  it  might  incriminate  me. 

Mr.  Arens.  Are  you  now  a  member  of  the  Communist  Party  ? 

Mr.  Sherman.  I  must  decline  to  answer  that,  sir,  on  the  ground 
that  it  might  incriminate  me. 

Mr.  Arens.  Have  you  ever  traveled  abroad  ? 

Mr.  Sherman.  I  must  decline  to  answer  this  question  on  the  grounds 
that  it  might  incriminate  me. 

Mr.  Arens.  Are  you  now  an  alien  ? 

Mr.  Sherman.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Are  you  an  alien  Communist  ? 

Mr.  Sherman.  I  decline  to  answer  that,  sir,  on  the  ground  that  it 
might  incriminate  me. 


2166     COMMUNIST   ACTIVmEiS   IN    THE    NEW    ENGLAND    AREA 

Mr.  Abens.  Were  you  a  member  of  the  Abraham  Lincoln  Brigade  ? 

Mr.  Shekivian.  I  decline  to  answer  that,  sir,  on  the  ground  it  might 
incriminate  me. 

Mr.  Arens.  "\'\'lien  did  you  last  take  a  trip  abroad  ? 

Mr.  Sherman.  I  decline  to  answer  that  on  the  ground  that  it  might 
incriminate  me. 

Mr.  Arens.  Have  you  ever  applied  for  a  United  States  passport? 

Mr.  Sherman.  I  decline  to  answer  that,  sir,  on  the  ground  that  it 
might  incriminate  me. 

Mr.  Arens.  Do  you  honestly  apprehend  if  you  told  this  committee 
whether  or  not  you  applied  for  a  United  States  passport,  you  would 
be  supplying  information  which  might  be  used  against  you  in  a 
criminal  proceeding  ? 

(The  witness  conferred  with  his  counsel.) 

Mr.  Sherman.  Would  you  mind,  sir,  to  repeat  the  question  ? 

Mr.  Arens.  Do  you  honestly  apprehend,  sir,  if  you  told  this  com- 
mittee truthfully  whether  or  not  you  ever  applied  for  a  United  States 
passport,  you  would  be  supplying  information  which  might  be  used 
against  you  in  a  criminal  proceeding? 

(The  witness  conferred  with  his  counsel.) 

Mr.  Sherman.  "Whatever  I  answer  here  is  nothing  but  the  truth. 
The  reason 

Mr.  Kearney.  Mr.  Chairman,  may  I  make  an  observation  here? 
It  seems  to  me  that  in  the  testimony  of  this  witness,  this  is  a  case  that 
should  be  immediately  processed  to  the  Immigration  authorities  look- 
ing toward  deportation,  and  I  certainly  would  recommend  and  would 
urge  as  a  vote  of  this  committee,  to  return  it  to  the  full  committee,  that 
such  proceedings  be  taken. 

Mr.  Arens.  Now,  sir,  there  is  an  outstanding  question  on  this  record, 
namely :  Do  you  honestly  apprehend  that  if  you  told  this  committee 
truthfully  while  you  are  under  oath  whether  or  not  you  have  ever 
applied  for  a  United  States  passport,  you  would  be  supplying  infor- 
mation which  might  be  used  against  you  in  a  criminal  proceeding? 

(The  witness  conferred  with  his  counsel.) 

Mr.  Sherman.  In  spite  of  my  innocence,  gentlemen,  I  still  decline 
to  answer,  that  it  might  incriminate  me. 

Mr.  Arens.  Have  you  been  innocent  of  any  application  for  a  United 
States  passport? 

Mr.  Sherman.  I  have  stated  that,  despite  my  innocence,  that  the 
truth 

Mr.  Arens.  What  innocence  ?  Are  you  innocent  of  membership  in 
the  Communist  Party? 

Mr.  Sherman.  I  am  innocent  of  telling  the  truth  here,  nothing  but 
the  truth ;  and  the  only  reason  I  decline  to  answer  such  certain  ques- 
tions is  fear  that  they  may  incriminate  me.  This  is  my  only  reason. 
I  employ  the  fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Arens.  As  an  alien,  have  you  ever  applied  for  what  is  tech- 
nically known  as  a  re-entry  permit  ? 

Mr.  Sherman.  I  decline  to  answer  that  question,  sir,  on  the  same 
reason  and  same  grounds. 

Mr.  Arens.  Have  you  ever  been  back  to  the  country  of  your  birth? 

Mr.  Sherman.  I  decline  to  answer  that  on  the  same  reason,  the  same 
grounds. 


i 


COMMUlSriiST    ACTIVITIES   m    THE    NEW    ENGLiAND    AREA    2167 

Mr.  Arens.  To  what  organizations  do  you  belong  ? 

Mr.  Sherman.  I  decline  to  answer  on  the  first  amendment,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Now,  I  am  going  to  ask  you  this  question :  What  or- 
ganizations do  you  now  belong  to  which  are  not  Communist  organi- 
zations ? 

Mr.  Sherman.  I  decline  to  answer  that,  sir,  on  the  same  grounds 
and  the  same  reasons. 

Mr.  Arens.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  respectfully  suggest  that  the  witness 
be  ordered  and  directed  to  answer  the  question. 

Mr.  Moulder.  The  witness  is  so  ordered  and  directed. 

(The  witness  conferred  with  his  counsel.) 

Mr.  Moulder.  I  will  restate  that  the  witness  is  ordered  and  directed 
to  answer  the  question  as  directed  by  counsel. 

Mr.  Sherman.  I  am  applying  the  first  amendment  that  gives  me 
the  right  to  associations  and  speech,  and  that  is  the  reason  why  I  de- 
cline to  answer. 

Mr.  Arens.  Mr.  Chairman,  in  view  of  that  explanation,  I  respect- 
fully suggest  that  the  record  again  reflect  an  order  and  direction  from 
this  committee  for  the  witness  to  answer  the  question — and  I  will 
explain  the  pertinency  of  it  to  the  witness — so  that  there  will  be  no 
question  that  this  record  is  abundantly  clear  as  to  the  nature  of  the 
information  we  are  endeavoring  to  elicit  from  the  witness. 

We  have  abimdance  of  information  to  the  effect  that  Communists 
have  been  in  a  process  over  this  Nation  of  penetrating  non-Communist 
organizations;  that  the  Communist  conspiracy  is  developing  in. this 
country  what  is  known  in  Communist  jargon  as  a  "united  front  tactic." 
We  have  information  to  the  effect  that  this  witness  is  and  has  been  a 
member  of  the  Communist  conspiracy. 

We  want  to  ask  this  witness  not  about  Communist  operations  in 
which  he  is  engaged  at  the  moment,  but  about  non-Communist  or- 
ganizations in  which  he  may  be  a  participant,  for  the  reason  that  this 
committee  has  under  consideration  a  number  of  suggested  provisions 
of  law  which  would  help  protect  this  country  against  this  subversive 
conspiracy. 

With  that  explanation,  Mr.  Witness,  I  respectfully  request  you  to 
answer  the  question. 

Mr.  Moulder.  And  you  are  directed  by  the  committee  to  answer 
the  question. 

(The  witness  conferred  with  his  counsel.) 

Mr.  Sherman.  With  the  advice  of  my  counsel,  I  am  employing 
the  first  amendment. 

Mr.  Moulder.  I  didn't  understand. 

Mr.  Sherman.  With  the  advice  of  my  counsel  on  this  question,  I 
am  employing  the  first  amendment. 

Mr.  Arens.  And  let  the  record  be  absolutely  clear.  You  are  not 
invoking- 


Mr.  Sherman.  I  am  invoking 

Mr.  Arens.  — those  provisions  of  the  fifth  amendment  which  give 
you  a  privilege  against  self-incrimination  ? 

Mr.  Sherman.  Let  me  repeat  my  answer,  then. 

(The  witness  conferred  with  his  counsel.) 

Mr.  Sherman.  I  am  relying  on  the  first  amendment,  with  the  advice 
of  my  counsel,  and  due  process  of  the  fifth  amendment. 


2168     COMMUNIST   ACTIV1TIE>S   m    THE    NEW    ENGLAND    AREA 

Mr.  Aren"S.  But  you  are  not  relying — Counsel,  you  may  advise 
him — you  are  not  relying  upon  those  portions  of  the  fifth  amendment 
■which  endow  you  with  a  privilege  against  self -incrunination ;  is  that 
correct  ? 

Mr.  Sherman.  I  am  employing  all  of  the  fifth  amendment  that  pro- 
tects me  from  being  a  witness  against  myself. 

Mr.  Aeens.  Then  you  are  changing  your  reasons,  are  you  not  ? 

Mr.  S  HERMAN.  That  is  the  reason. 

Mr.  Arens.  Let's  get  to  the  prmcipal  question:  Do  you  honestly 
apprehend,  sir,  if  you  told  this  committee  truthfully  the  non-Com- 
munist Party  organizations  of  which  you  are  a  member,  you  would 
be  supplying  information  which  might  be  used  against  you  in  a 
criminal  proceeding? 

(The  witness  conferred  with  his  counsel.) 

Mr.  Sherman.  With  the  advice  of  my  counsel,  I  decline  to  answer 
for  the  same  reasons. 

Mr.  Abens.  Mr,  Chairman,  I  respectfully  suggest  that  the  witness 
be  ordered  and  directed  to  answer  that  outstanding  principal  ques- 
tion, for  the  reason  we  are  testing  the  witness'  good  faith  in  the  invo- 
cation of  the  fifth  amendment.  The  fifth  amendment  has  not  been 
put  in  the  Constitution,  the  Courts  have  said  repeatedly,  for  purposes 
of  mockery.  If  the  witness  is  invoking  the  fifth  amendment  in  good 
faith,  he  can  and  should  answer  that  question. 

Mr.  Moulder.  I  believe  the  record  reveals  what  counsel  said,  to  be 
the  truth.  Therefore  you  are  directed  by  the  committee  to  answer 
the  question. 

(The  witness  conferred  with  his  counsel.) 

Mr.  Sherman.  My  counsel  advises  me  to  rely  on  the  first  amend- 
ment and  all  of  the  fifth  amendment. 

Mr.  Arens.  I  want  the  record  to  be  abundantly  clear,  Mr.  Chair- 
man. 

Do  you  understand,  Mr.  Witness,  that  I  am  asking  you  whether  or 
not  if  you  told  this  committee  truthfully  the  non-Communist  organi- 
zations which  you  are  a  member  of,  you  would  be  supplying  informa- 
tion which  might  be  used  against  you  in  a  criminal  proceeding  ?  Do 
you  understand  the  question  ? 

Mr.  Sherman.  (Nods). 

Mr.  Arens.  Your  nod  "Yes"  is  not  on  the  record.  Kindly  give  us 
a  negative  or  an  affirmative  response. 

Mr.  Sherman.  Yes. 

Mr.  Arens.  You  understand  the  question  ? 

Then  I  respectfully  implore  you  to  answer  the  question. 

(The  witness  confers  with  his  counsel.) 

Mr.  Sherman.  My  counsel  advises  me  to  apply  the  first  amendment, 
that  it  deals  with  the  association  of  people  and  organizations,  and  the 
fifth  amendment,  that  it  deals  with  due  proces  of  law  and  not  to  be  a 
witness  against  myself. 

Mr.  Arens.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  respectfully  suggest  that  will  conclude 
the  staff  interrogation  of  this  witness. 

Mr.  Moulder.  Mr.  Doyle,  have  you  any  questions  ? 

Mr.  Doyle.  Witness,  how  many  vears  did  you  say  you  had  been 
within  the  continental  United  States  ? 

Mr.  Sherman.  I  came  to  this  country  in  1920. 


COMMUNIST   ACnVITIEiS   EST    THE    NEW    ENGLAND   AREA     2169 

Mr.  DoTLE.  From  Poland? 

Mr.  Sherman.  Poland,  sir,  right. 

Mr.  Doyle.  And  I  think  you  said  you  had  not  applied  for  citizen- 
ship papers  after  you  came  here  in  1920. 

Mr.  Sherman.  I  have  asked  for  an  explanation,  which  I  was  not 
given  the  right  to  explain,  and  you  would  readily  see  the  reason  why  I 
have  not  applied.  In  my  explanation,  if  I  was  permitted  to,  you  would 
see  why  I  have  not  applied. 

Mr.  Doyle.  Well,  tell  us  why  you  have  not  applied. 

Mr.  Sherman.  All  right. 

Mr.  Doyle.  Since  1920.   That  is  38  years. 

Mr.  Sherman.  Well 

Mr.  Doyle.  How  old  a  man  are  you  ? 

Mr.  Sherman.  I  am  52  at  the  moment. 

Mr.  Doyle.  52? 

Mr.  Sherman.  Correct,  sir. 

Mr.  Doyle.  Tell  us  why  you  have  not  applied  for  citizenship  in  the 
country  in  which  you  are  claiming  constitutional  privileges. 

Mr.  Sherman.  Firstly,  I  want  to  state  that  I  would  appreciate 
greatly  if  I  was  to  be  given  the  opportunity  of  becoming  a  citizen  of 
the  United  States. 

Mr.  Doyle.  Speak  a  little  louder,  please. 

Mr.  Sherman.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Arens.  Could  you  truthfully  take  an  oath  as  now  required  in 
the  application  for  citizenship  that  you  are  not  now,  nor  have  you  ever 
been,  a  member  of  an  organization  dedicated  to  the  overthrow  of  the 
Government  by  force  and  violence  ? 

Mr.  Sherman.  I  don't  know  which  question  to  answer  first.  Wliat 
I  started  to  speak  about 

Mr.  Arens.  I  beg  your  pardon  ? 

Mr.  Sherman.  Or  this  question  now. 

Mr.  Doyle.  You  answer  the  director's  question,  first,  sir. 

Mr.  Sherman.  Wliatever  I  say  here  is  absolutely  the  truth,  and  the 
only  reason  I  am  employing  my  right  and  taking  advantage  of  the 
Constitution  rights  is  simply  not  to  be  incriminated  in  the  future. 

Mr.  Doyle.  All  right.  Now  answer  my  question.  You  answered 
him  the  same  way  you  did  before.  Why  haven't  you  applied  for 
citizenship  papers  in  38  years  ? 

Mr.  Sherman.  I  came  to  this  country  in  1914  as  a  boy  and  that  was 
the  f  urtherest  thing  in  my  mind,  not  knowing  anything  about  citizen- 
ship, when  you  first  come  to  this  country. 

Mr.  Doyle.  You  are  an  adult  now.  Why  haven't  you  applied  for 
citizenship  papers  ? 

Mr.  Sherman.  Due  to  the  fact  that  all  of  the  children  in  my  family 
were  under  the  impression  they  were  citizens  of  my  father's  citizen's 
papers,  derivative  citizens. 

Mr.  Doyle.  Did  you  ever  go  to  the  Immigration  Service  of 
our  country  to  find  out  whether  or  not  you  could  apply  for  citizenship 
papers  ? 

Mr.  Sherman.  Sir,  my  personal  life  was  so  involved  with 

Mr.  Doyle.  Never  mind  your  personal  life.    Answer  my  question. 

Mr.  Sherman.  That  was  the  reason  for  me  not  doing.  I  was  in- 
volved with  a  dying  wife  for  many  years. 


2170     OOMMIJNIST    ACTIVinES   IN    THE    NEW    ENGLAND    AREA 

Mr.  Doyle.  Your  wife  has  been  dead  many  years.  You  have  had 
25  years  since  that  time. 

Mr.  Sherman.  My  wife  is  not  dead  25  years. 

Mr.  Doyle.  How  many  years  has  she  been  dead  ? 

Mr.  Sherman.  My  wife  died  in  1951. 

Mr.  Doyle.  7  years. 

Mr.  Sherman.  And  she  was  sick  for  many,  many  years. 

Mr.  Doyle.  Have  you  applied  since  your  wife  died,  for  citizenship 
papers  ? 

Mr.  Sherman.  Pardon,  sir  ? 

Mr.  Doyle.  Have  you  applied  for  citizenship  papers  in  the  United 
States  since  your  wife  died  7  years  ago  ? 

Mr.  Sherman.  No.  Since  then  I  have  been  running  to  doctors,  and 
I  am  a  sick  man  today,  sir. 

Mr.  Doyle.  Yes? 

Mr.  Sherman.  Arthritis,  ulcerated  stomach. 

Mr.  Doyle.  Do  you  work  every  day  ? 

Mr.  Sherman.  Yes,  sir. 

Mr.  Doyle.  You  are  not  too  sick  to  work  ? 

Mr.  Sherman.  I  must. 

Mr.  Doyle,  ^Vliy  haven't  you  walked  over  to  the  Immigration  office 
and  applied  for  citizenship  ? 

Mr.  Sherman.  Due  to  the  fact  when  I  get  through  with  the  day's 
work,  sir,  I  am  tired. 

Mr.  Doyle.  Why  don't  you  lay  off  a  half  day  and  do  your  duty  to 
your  country  ? 

Mr.  Sherman.  I  am  not  in  a  position  financially  to  do  so,  and  I  am 
in  the  future  trying  to,  even  under  a  financial  sacrifice. 

Mr.  Doyle.  You  have  good  clothes,  a  clean  shirt  on,  your  hair  is 
combed,  you  have  good  spectacles.  You  have  a  good,  clean  tie  on. 
Why  don't  you  lay  off  long  enough  to  go  to  the  Immigration  Serv- 
ice here  in  Boston  and  apply  for  citizenship  papers  ?_ 

Mr.  Sherman.  For  your  information,  sir,  this  suit  that  I  am  wear- 
ing now  and  which  is  nice  and  clean  is  a  suit  bought  for  the  last  9 
years,  and  this  is  the  first  suit  in  9  years.  And  you  know  how  long 
it  takes  to  save  up  for  a  suit. 

Mr.  Doyle.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  submit  then  that  this  is  the  most  dis- 
gusting incomprehensible  testimony  I  have  ever  heard  on  this  com- 
mittee from  a  man  who  is  claiming  the  protection  of  our  country ;  and 
I  want  to  join  Mr.  Kearney  when  this  meeting  is  over  and  vote  to 
recommend  that  this  man  be  recommended  to  the  Immigration  and 
Naturalization  Service  to  be  deported. 

You  can't  make  monkeys  of  the  people  of  the  United  States  of 
America,  like  you  have  been  doing,  apparently. 

Mr.  Moulder.  May  I  first  advise  and  warn  those  who  are  attending 
(he  hearing  that  you  are  permitted  here  in  this  public  and  open  hear- 
ing and  that  demonstrations,  for  or  against  the  witness,  will  not  be 
tolerated  and  those,  of  course,  who  violate  that  rule  will  necessarily 
have  to  leave  the  hearing  room. 

Do  you  have  any  questions,  Mr.  Kearney  ? 

Mr.  Kearney.  1  have  no  questions,  Mr.  Chairman,  only  to  reiterate 
what  I  said  a  few  minutes  ago — that  I  watched  the  witness  and  lis- 
tened to  his  attempted  answers,  and  personally,  I  don't  think  there  is 
a  word  of  truth  in  them. 


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As  Mr.  Doyle  from  California  has  stated,  when  the  full  subcom- 
mittee meets  it  is  my  intention  to  move  to  the  full  committee  that  this 
matter  be  referred  to  the  proper  authorities  for  action. 

Mr.  Moulder.  Mr.  Mcintosh  ? 

Mr.  McIntosh.  I  have  no  questions. 

Mr.  Moulder.  Are  there  any  other  questions  of  this  witness? 

Mr.  Arens.  No.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman.  That  will  conclude 
the  staff  interrogation. 

Mr.  Moulder.  I  likewise  wish  to  concur  with  my  colleagues  on  the 
committee,  that  unanimously,  your  case  be  referred  to  the  Immigra- 
tion authorities. 

The  committee  will  stand  in  recess  mitil  10  a.  m.,  tomorrow. 

(Whereupon  at  5 :  23  p.  m.  Tuesday,  March  18,  1958,  the  subcom- 
mittee recessed  to  reconvene  at  10  a.  m.,  Wednesday,  March  19, 1958.) 


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