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JOURNALS 



OF THE 



HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF ) 

CANADA. ?J+»»t 

From Thursday, January 18, 1962, to Wednesday, April 18, 1962, both days 

inclusive, in the Tenth and Eleventh Years of the Reign of Our 

Sovereign Lady, Queen Elizabeth the Second 

FIFTH SESSION OF THE TWENTY-FOURTH PARLIAMENT OF CANADA 



The Honourable Roland Michener, Speaker 



SESSION 1962 

PRINTED BY ORDER OF PARLIAMENT 

ROGER DUHAMEL, F.R.S.C. 

QUEEN'S PRINTER AND CONTROLLER OF STATIONERY 

OTTAWA, 1962 

Volume CVI1I One Hundred and Eighth Volume 

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CONTENTS 

Page 

Proclamations iii 

Journals of the House of Commons 1 

Proclamation re Dissolution 389 

Index to Journals 391 

List of Appendices to the Journals 471 

The Ministry 472 

Parliamentary Secretaries 472 

Officers of the Commons 473 

Alphabetical List of Members with their Constituencies 474 

Alphabetical List of Constituencies and Members thereof 478 




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PROCLAMATIONS 




GEORGE P. VANIER 
[L.S.] 



CANADA 



ELIZABETH THE SECOND, by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom, 
Canada and Her other Realms and Territories QUEEN, Head of the 
Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith. 

To Our Beloved and Faithful the Senators of Canada, and the Members 
elected to serve in the House of Commons of Canada and to each and 
every of you, 

Greeting: 
A PROCLAMATION 

WHERAS Our Parliament of Canada stands prorogued to the seventh day 
of the month of November, 1961, at which time, at Our City of Ottawa, 
you were held and constrained to appear. 

Now Know Ye, that for divers causes and considerations, and taking into 
consideration the ease and convenience of Our Loving Subjects, We have 
thought fit by and with the advice of Our Privy Council for Canada, to relieve 
you, and each of you, of your attendance at the time aforesaid, hereby 
convoking and by these presents enjoining you and each of you, that on 
Saturday, the sixteenth day of the month of December, 1961, you meet Us, in 
Our Parliament of Canada, at Our City of Ottawa, there to take into 
consideration the state and welfare of Canada and therein to do as may seem 
necessary. Herein Fail Not. 

In Testimony Whereof We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent 
and the Great Seal of Canada to be hereunto affixed. Witness: Our 
Trusty and Well-beloved Major- General George Philias Vanier, 
Companion of Our Distinguished Service Order upon whom We have 
conferred Our Military Cross and Our Canadian Forces' Decoration, 
Governor General and Commander-in-Chief of Canada. 

At Our Government House, in Our City of Ottawa, the first day of November 
in the year of Our Lord one thousand nine hundred and sixty-one and 
in the tenth year of Our Reign. 

By Command, 

A. ALEX. CATTANACH, 
Acting Under Secretary of State. 

iii 



GEORGE P. VANIER 
[L.S.] 



CANADA 



ELIZABETH THE SECOND, by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom, 
Canada and Her other Realms and Territories QUEEN, Head of the 
Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith. 

To Our Beloved and Faithful the Senators of Canada, and the Members 
elected to serve in the House of Commons of Canada and to each and 
every of you, 

Greeting: 
A PROCLAMATION 

WHEREAS Our Parliament of Canada stands prorogued to the sixteenth 
day of the month of December, 1961, at which time, at Our City of 
Ottawa, you were held and constrained to appear. 

Now Know Ye, that for divers causes and considerations, and taking into 
consideration the ease and convenience of Our Loving Subjects, We have 
thought fit by and with the advice of Our Privy Council for Canada, to relieve 
you, and each of you, of your attendance at the time aforesaid, hereby 
convoking and by these presents enjoining you and each of you, that Thursday, 
the twenty-fifth day of the month of January, 1962, you meet Us, in Our 
Parliament of Canada, at Our City of Ottawa, there to take into consideration 
the state and welfare of Canada and therein to do as may seem necessary. 
Herein Fail Not. 

In Testimony Whereof We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent 
and the Great Seal of Canada to be hereunto affixed. Witness: Our 
Trusty and Well-beloved Major-General George Philias Vanier, 
Companion of Our Distinguished Service Order upon whom We have 
conferred Our Military Cross and Our Canadian Forces' Decoration, 
Governor General and Commander-in-Chief of Canada. 

At Our Government House, in Our City of Ottawa, the eighth day of 
December in the year of Our Lord one thousand nine hundred and 
sixty-one and in the tenth year of Our Reign. 

By Command, 

A. ALEX. CATTANACH, 
Acting Under Secretary of State. 



IV 



GEORGE P. VANIER 
[L.S.] 



CANADA 



ELIZABETH THE SECOND, by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom, 
Canada and Her other Realms and Territories QUEEN, Head of the 
Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith. 

To Our Beloved and Faithful the Senators of Canada, and the Members 
elected to serve in the House of Commons of Canada and to each and 
every of you, 

Greeting: 
A PROCLAMATION 

WHEREAS Our Parliament of Canada was summoned to meet on Thursday, 
the twenty-fifth day of the month of January, 1962, at which time at 
Our City of Ottawa, you were held and constrained to appear. 

Nevertheless, for certain causes and considerations, We do Will, by and 
with the advice of Our Privy Council for Canada, that you and each of you, 
be as to Us in this matter entirely exonerated, Commanding, and by the tenor 
of these Presents enjoining you, and each of you, and all others in this behalf 
interested, that on Thursday, the eighteenth day of the month of January, 1962, 
at 3 o'clock p.m., at Our City of Ottawa, aforesaid, personally you be and 
appear, for the DESPATCH OF BUSINESS, to treat, do, act and conclude upon 
these things which in Our said Parliament of Canada, by the Common Council 
of Canada, may by the favour of God be ordained. 

In Testimony Whereof We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent 
and the Great Seal of Canada to be hereunto affixed. Witness: Our 
Trusty and Well-beloved Major-General George Philias Vanier, 
Companion of Our Distinguished Service Order upon whom We have 
conferred Our Military Cross and Our Canadian Forces' Decoration, 
Governor General and Commander-in-Chief of Canada. 

At Our Government House, in Our City of Ottawa, this fourteenth day of 
December in the year of Our Lord one thousand nine hundred and 
sixty-one and in the tenth year of Our Reign. 

By Command, 

A. ALEX. CATTANACH, 
Acting Under Secretary of State. 

GOD SAVE THE QUEEN 



A.D. 1962 THURSDAY, 18th JANUARY 

No. 1 

JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, THURSDAY, 18th JANUARY, 1962. 



3.00 o'clock p.m. 

This being the day on which Parliament has been convoked by Proclama- 
tion of the Governor-General for the despatch of business and the Members 
of the House being assembled: 

Prayers. 

Mr. Speaker communicated to the House the following letter: 

GOVERNMENT HOUSE 
OTTAWA 

3rd January 1962. 

Sir, 

I have the honour to inform you that His Excellency the Governor- General 
will arrive at the Main Entrance of the Parliament Buildings at 3.00 p.m. on 
Thursday the 18th January, 1962, and when it has been signified that all is in 
readiness, will proceed to the Chamber of the Senate to open formally the 
Fifth Session of the Twenty-Fourth Parliament of Canada. 

I have the honour to be, 

Sir, 
Your obedient servant, 

ESMOND BUTLER, 
Secretary to the Governor -General 

The Honourable 

The Speaker of the House of Commons, 
Ottawa. 

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2 HOUSE OF COMMONS 10 ELIZABETH II 

A Message was delivered by the Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod: 

"Mr. Speaker, His Excellency the Governor-General desires the im- 
mediate attendance of this Honourable House in the Chamber of the Honour- 
able the Senate." 



The House attended accordingly; 



And being returned: 



Mr. Diefenbaker, seconded by Mr. Churchill, by leave of the House, 
introduced Bill C-l, An Act respecting the Administration of Oaths of Office, 
which was read the first time. 



Mr. Speaker reported that, when the House did attend His Excellency 
the Governor- General this day in the Senate Chamber, His Excellency was 
pleased to make a Speech to both Houses of Parliament, and to prevent mis- 
takes, he had obtained a copy, which is as follows: 

Honourable Members of the Senate: 

Members of the House of Commons: 

I welcome you as you resume your Parliamentary duties. 

We look forward to the presence this summer of Her Majesty the Queen 
Mother, who for many years has endeared herself to the hearts of all Canadians. 
We shall also have the pleasure of receiving Their Royal Highnesses the Duke 
of Edinburgh and the Princess Royal. 

During the past year, I have visited several Provinces and made an ex- 
tensive trip to the Northwest Territories. The great North brought home to me 
the vastness, the far horizons and the beauty of our country. Flying over it, I 
thought of the wonderful heritage which Providence has entrusted to us. May 
we be worthy of this stewardship. 

While the world outlook contains elements of continuing danger, there are 
some grounds for cautious optimism. Major military conflicts have been avoided 
and the processes of conciliation and negotiation are in progress or in prospect 
on many of the important international issues. The Canadian Government re- 
mains devoted to peace as its primary objective. 

Recurrent Soviet pressure on Berlin makes it necessary for the Govern- 
ments of the North Atlantic Alliance to reconcile the preservation of essential 
rights and interests with a constant readiness to discuss and enter into equitable 
and safeguarded engagements. My Government has consistently worked towards 
that end, and approves the resumption of preliminary talks with the U.S.S.R., 
the success of which will depend on Soviet good faith. 

In other areas of tension, Canada has been prominent in international efforts 
to relieve political, economic and administrative strains which have sometimes 
accompanied the transition from dependent to independent status of new nations. 
International peace-keeping arrangements continue to warrant effective Cana- 
dian support. 



A.D. 1962 THURSDAY, 18th JANUARY 3 

International agreements on measures of controlled disarmament remain 
vitally necessary if the world is to be freed permanently from the menace of 
war. As a member of the expanded disarmament committee recently re- 
constituted, my Government supports the decision to resume disarmament 
negotiations in March. 

The Commonwealth continues to grow as an important instrument for 
freedom and peace, linking five continents and people of many races. The 
strengthening of this association is a primary objective of my Government. 
During 1961, Canada joined in welcoming Cyprus, Sierra Leone and Tanganyika 
to full membership in the Commonwealth. 

My Government derives particular satisfaction from the endorsement by the 
United Nations of a World Food Programme sponsored by Canada, for which 
you will be asked to authorize a contribution. 

You will also be asked to appropriate funds to maintain Canada's external 
aid programme. 

Canada's diplomatic representation has been expanded in the Common- 
wealth, in the French-speaking countries of Africa, and as well in Latin America 
and in Asia. 

While striving to reduce international tensions and promote the peaceful 
settlement of international disputes, my Government still considers it necessary 
to provide the support required to strengthen and maintain the defence forces 
necessary to continue an active role in the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. 

Important negotiations are now under way between the British Government 
and the European Economic Community following the decision of Britain to 
ascertain whether terms can be negotiated on which it might become a member 
of that Community. My Ministers are following these negotiations carefully, 
having in mind that their outcome should give full recognition of the vital 
interests of the Commonwealth and to Canada's position and interests as a 
major trading nation. 

My Government in recent international meetings has reiterated its support 
for the expansion of world trade on a multilateral non-discriminatory basis 
and its readiness to play a constructive role in the promotion of world trade. 
It stands ready to work with other countries in the pursuit of this goal. 

My Government plans to recommend to you a number of measures that will 
constitute further steps in working out the purposes of Confederation and 
identifying more clearly the Canadian nationality in various aspects of public 
and business affairs. With this purpose in mind, you will be asked to give effect, 
with modifications, to the recommendations of the Royal Commission on 
Publications. 

By means of conferences with representatives of Provincial Governments, 
progress has been made toward agreement on a means of amending our con- 
stitution in Canada, which would be the final step to bring our formal legal 
position into line with reality. A formula to accomplish this purpose has been 
sent to Provincial Governments for their consideration. 

Legislation will be proposed to require reports to be submitted by business 
and labour organizations concerning the extent and nature of their operations 
and whether, and to what extent, they may be owned or controlled outside 
Canada. 

A measure relating to the Senate will be placed before you. 
My Government will ask you to take steps to ensure that the forthcoming 
redistribution of electoral districts is made in an equitable manner upon an 

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4 HOUSE OF COMMONS 10 ELIZABETH II 

objective basis. To this end you will be asked to approve for the first time in 
our history a measure to create an independent commission to recommend the 
changes required in the electoral districts as a result of the decennial census. 

Comprehensive measures to put into effect my Government's economic 
policies were enacted in preceding sessions of this Parliament. The benefits 
flowing from these policies are now evident in record levels of employment, 
of production, and of export trade. There has been a substantial improvement 
since last year in the unemployment situation. As the result of the efforts 
of my Government through its municipal winter works incentive programme, 
notable progress has been made in meeting the recurrent problem of seasonal 
unemployment. The Government has already announced its intention of asking 
you to approve another and larger programme of assistance to municipalities 
for winter works projects. 

Further measures to stimulate economic activity and promote national 
development will be placed before you this session. One of these will be the 
construction of a railway in the Gaspe Peninsula from Matane to Ste. Anne 
des Monts. Another will be the construction of a floodway and other works to 
conserve and control the waters of the Red and Assiniboine Rivers in Manitoba, 
for which agreement has now been reached with the Province regarding the 
division of costs. 

Other measures which will help to enlarge employment by stimulating 
economic activity will include a bill to increase the total amount of financing of 
exports which can be undertaken by the Export Credits Insurance Corporation 
and an amendment to broaden the scope of the Small Businesses Loans Act. 

The success of the recent "Resources for Tomorrow" Conference demon- 
strated the benefits of cooperation between governments in this field. My Gov- 
ernment, in consultation with the Governments of the ten Provinces, is examin- 
ing suggestions made at that Conference for cooperative measures to encourage 
the wise management and multiple use of Canada's natural resources. 

The provision of low-cost electric power is one of the most important factors 
in the economic growth and industrial development of Canada. As a further 
step in the national development policy, my Prime Minister has invited the 
Provincial Governments to join with the Federal Government in early discus- 
sions of the steps that might be taken toward the establishment of long-distance 
power transmission to link Provinces and eventually the different regions of 
Canada. 

You will be asked to provide for an expanded programme of encouragement 
to scientific research by industry in Canada. 

A bill will be placed before you intended to enable Canada to participate 
effectively in arrangements for reinforcing the International Monetary Fund 
when additional resources are required to maintain stability in exchange markets 
in the face of substantial capital movements. 

The maintenance of fair prices for farm and fishery products also continues 
to be a matter of prime concern to my Government and you will be asked to 
provide the funds necessary to sustain the price stabilization policy. My Ministers 
have achieved a gratifying success in finding markets for grain and thereby 



A.D. 1962 THURSDAY, 18th JANUARY 5 

reducing surplus stocks. The drought in the Prairie Provinces during 1961 has 
resulted in severe losses, however, and you will be asked to provide assistance 
by means of acreage payments to the farmers who have been affected. Legisla- 
tion will also be proposed to extend the period of application of the Farm 
Improvement Loans Act and the Fisheries Improvement Loans Act. 

Important measures in the field of social welfare will also be proposed at 
this session. Your approval will be requested for an increase in the amount of 
the universal old age pension payable under the Old Age Security Act, and 
also for legislation to increase the amount to which the Federal Government 
will contribute under the Old Age Assistance Act, the Blind Persons Act and 
the Disabled Persons Act. After the concurrence of the Provinces for the neces- 
sary amendment to section 94 A of the British North America Act has been 
secured, Parliament will be asked to approve a constitutional amendment in 
order to permit the introduction of a contributory system of old age pensions 
and related survivors' and disability benefits which will be in addition to the 
existing old age pension legislation and will take into account private pension 
arrangements and the need for legislation concerning portability of pension 
rights. 

You will be asked to authorize the establishment of a national Council of 
Welfare similar to the Council of Health which has had a long record of 
usefulness. 

You will be asked to approve an amendment to the Civilian War Pensions 
and Allowances Act to authorize the payment of allowances under specified 
conditions to merchant seamen, fire-fighters, foresters, members of voluntary 
aid detachments and certain other civilians whose war services overseas have 
been recognized in other respects. Other amending bills will provide for in- 
creased allowances and other improvements in the Children of War Dead 
(Education Assistance) Act and also for the extension of the effective period 
of the War Services Grants Act and the Veterans Insurance Act and for the 
extension of the qualifying period under the Veterans Land Act. 

My Government will also ask you to appropriate monies required in the 
Unemployment Insurance Fund to safeguard the rights of workers until the 
report of the Special Committee inquiring into the unemployment insurance 
programme has been received and can be acted upon. 

You will be asked to increase the Federal grants to universities and make 
suitable provision in those cases where alternative arrangements are made for 
supplementary Provincial grants in lieu of Federal grants. 

My Government is initiating negotiations with the provincial and municipal 
authorities with a view to removing the tolls on the Victoria and Jacques Cartier 
bridges in Montreal; should these be successful you will be asked to approve 
legislation for this purpose. 

You will be asked to authorize the institution of an automobile ferry service 
between North Sydney, Nova Scotia, and Argentia, Newfoundland, and to pro- 
vide for the construction of the necessary vessel and docks. 

Other measures will be introduced to amend the Broadcasting Act, the 
Canada Shipping Act, the Canadian National Railways Capital Revision Act, 
the Bankruptcy Act and a number of other statutes. You will be asked to 
approve the ratification of the Universal Copyright Convention. 



6 HOUSE OF COMMONS 10 ELIZABETH II 

Members of the House of Commons: 

My Government intends to ask you to reconstitute the Special Committee 
on procedure of the House and request it to make recommendations on the 
elimination of closure of debates in the House of Commons. 

The estimates required for the Public Service and for payments authorized 
by Parliament will be laid before you. 

Honourable Members of the Senate: 

Members of the House of Commons: 

I pray that God in His wisdom may grant you light and grace in your 
deliberations and the fulfillment of your duties. 



On motion of Mr. Diefenbaker, seconded by Mr. Churchill, it was ordered, — 
That the Speech of His Excellency the Governor-General to both Houses of 
Parliament be taken into consideration at the next sitting of the House. 



Mr. Diefenbaker, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, delivered a 
Message from His Excellency the Governor- General, which was read by Mr. 
Speaker, as follows: 

GEORGE P. VANIER: 

The Governor-General transmits to the House of Commons a certified 
copy of an Order in Council appointing the Honourable Donald Methuen 
Fleming, Minister of Finance, the Honourable Leon Balcer, Minister of Trans- 
port, the Honourable Gordon Churchill, Minister of Veterans Affairs, and 
the Honourable Ellen Louks Fairclough, Minister of Citizenship and Immigra- 
tion, to act with the Speaker of the House of Commons as Commissioners for 
the purposes and under the provisions of Chapter 143 of the Revised Statutes 
of Canada, 1952, intituled: "An Act respecting the House of Commons". 

OTTAWA. 



On motion of Mr. Diefenbaker, seconded by Mr. Churchill, a Special 
Committee was appointed to prepare and report, with all convenient speed, 
lists of Members to compose the Standing Committees of this House under 
Standing Order 65; the said committee to be composed of Messrs. Balcer, 
Churchill, Habel, Pallett, and Peters. 



Mr. Diefenbaker, seconded by Mr. Churchill, moved, — That Paul Martineau, 
Esquire, Member for the Electoral District of Pontiac-Temiscamingue, be ap- 
pointed Chairman of Committees of the Whole House. 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to on the following division: 



A.D. 1962 



THURSDAY, 18th JANUARY 



Yeas 





Messrs: 




Aitken (Miss), 


Diefenbaker, 


Knowles, 


Noble, 


Allmark, 


Dinsdale, 


Korchinski, 


Nowlan, 


Asselin, 


Dorion, 


Kucherepa, 


Nugent, 


Badanai, 


Doucett, 


Lafreniere, 


O'Hurley, 


Balcer, 


Drouin, 


LaMarsh (Miss), 


O'Leary, 


Baldwin, 


Drysdale, 


Lambert, 


Ormiston, 


Barrington, 


Dubois, 


Leduc, 


Parizeau, 


Batten, 


Dumas, 


Legere, 


Pascoe, 


Bell (Carleton), 


Dupuis, 


Lessard, 


Paul, 


Bell (Saint John- 


Eudes, 


Loiselle, 


Payne, 


Albert), 


Fairclough (Mrs.), 


Macdonald (Mrs.), 


Pearson, 


Belzile, 


Fane, 


Macdonnell, 


Phillips, 


Bigg, 


Fleming (Eglinton), 


MacEwan, 


Pigeon, 


Bissonnette, 


Fleming (Okanagan- 


Maclnnis, 


Pratt, 


Boivin, 


Revelstoke), 


MacLean (Queens), 


Pugh, 


Bourbonnais, 


Flemming (Royal), 


MacLean (Winnipeg 


Racine, 


Bourdages, 


Flynn, 


North Centre), 


Rapp, 


Bourque, 


Forbes, 


MacLellan, 


Ricard, 


Brassard 


Fortin, 


Macnaughton, 


Richard 


(Chicoutimi), 


Fournier, 


Macquarrie, 


(Kamouraska), 


Broome, 


Frechette, 


MacRae, 


Roberge, 


Browne (St. John's 


Fulton, 


McBain, 


Rogers, 


West), 


Garland, 


McDonald 


Rompre, 


Browne (Vancouver- 


Gillet, 


(Hamilton South), 


Rouleau, 


Kingsway), 


Godin, 


McFarlane, 


Rowe, 


Bruchesi, 


Grafftey, 


McGee, 


Sevigny, 


Cadieu, 


Green, 


McGrath, 


Simpson, 


Campbell 


Grills, 


Mcllraith, 


Slogan, 


(Lambton-Kent), 


Gundlock, 


McLennan, 


Smith (Lincoln), 


Cardiff, 


Habel, 


McMillan, 


Smith (Winnipeg 


Cardin, 


Hales, 


McPhillips, 


North), 


Carter, 


Hamilton 


McQuillan, 


Southam, 


Casselman (Mrs.), 


(Notre-Dame- 


Maloney, 


Speakman, 


Cathers, 


de-Grace), 


Martel, 


Spencer, 


Chambers, 


Harkness, 


Martin (Essex East), 


Starr, 


Chatterton, 


Hees, 


Martini, 


Stearns, 


Chevrier, 


Hellyer, 


Matthews, 


Stinson, 


Churchill, 


Henderson, 


Meunier, 


Tardif, 


Clancy, 


Hicks, 


Michaud, 


Thompson, 


Clermont, 


Horner 


Monteith (Perth), 


Thrasher, 


Coates, 


(Jasper-Edson), 


Monteith (Verdun), 


Tucker, 


Cooper, 


Horner 


More, 


Villeneuve, 


Creaghan, 


(The Battlefords), 


Morissette, 


Walker, 


Crestohl, 


Howe, 


Morton, 


Webb, 


Crouse, 


Johnson, 


Muir (Cape 


Webster, 


Danforth, 


Jones, 


Breton North 


Weichel, 


Denis, 


Jung, 


and Victoria), 


Winkler, 


Deschambault, 


Keays, 


Muir (Lisgar), 


Woolliams— 179. 


Deschatelets, 


Kennedy, 


Nasserden, 






Nays 






Messrs: 




Argue, 


Howard, 


Peters, 


Regier, 


Fisher, 


Martin (Timmins), 


Pitman, 


Winch — 9. 


Herridge, 









8 HOUSE OF COMMONS 10 ELIZABETH II 

On motion of Mr. Diefenbaker, seconded by Mr. Churchill, Gordon Camp- 
bell Chown, Esquire, Member for the Electoral District of Winnipeg South, was 
appointed Deputy Chairman of Committees of the Whole House. 



By unanimous consent, on motion of Mr. Diefenbaker, seconded by Mr. 
Churchill, it was resolved, — That this House will, at its next sitting, resolve 
itself into a Committee to consider of the Supply to be granted to Her Majesty. 



By unanimous consent, on motion of Mr. Diefenbaker, seconded by Mr. 
Churchill, it was resolved, — That this House will, at its next sitting, resolve 
itself into a Committee to consider of the Ways and Means for raising the 
Supply to be granted to Her Majesty. 



By unanimous consent, on motion of Mr. Diefenbaker, seconded by Mr. 
Churchill, it was ordered, — That, when the House adjourns this day, it shall 
stand adjourned until tomorrow at 2.30 p.m., and that the provisions of 
section (1), Standing Order 2, shall be suspended in relation thereto. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Speaker, — Report of the Proceedings of the Commissioners of In- 
ternal Economy of the House of Commons, for the period November 17, 1960, 
to January 17, 1962, pursuant to Standing Order 81. (English and French). 

By Mr. Speaker, — Report of the Chief Electoral Officer, dated January 17, 
1962, pursuant to section 58 of the Canada Elections Act, chapter 23, R.S.C., 
1952. (English and French). 

By Mr. Speaker, — Report of the Chief Electoral Officer, dated January 17, 
1962, pursuant to section 4 of the Representation Act, chapter 334, R.S.C., 1952. 
(English and French). 

By Mr. Speaker, — Report of the Parliamentary Librarian, pursuant to 
section 2 of the Regulations respecting the Library of Parliament (English and 
French), which is as follows: 

To the Honourable the Speaker of the House of Commons: 

The Parliamentary Librarian has the honour to submit his report for the 
year 1961. The last report was presented to both Houses on November 17, 1960. 

The Joint Committee on the Library met twice during the last session. 
New Regulations were adopted by the Joint Committee and approved by the 
House of Commons on September 27, 1961, on the recommendation of the Special 
Committee on Procedure. Standing Orders 120 to 128, inclusive, concerning the 
administration of the Library of Parliament were concomitantly repealed by 
the House of Commons. The text of the new Regulations is appended. 



A.D. 1962 THURSDAY, 18th JANUARY 9 

The "Selected Additions List", issued twice a month during sessions to 
bring to the attention of Senators and Members a choice of recent books of spe- 
cial interest, was continued during the recess. A revised edition of the leaflet 
"How the Library of Parliament can Help Senators and Members" will be dis- 
tributed early next week. A booklet listing the newspapers and magazines 
received in the Reading Room of the House of Commons has been printed and 
will be issued shortly. 

In the course of the year 1961, our staff answered 5,910 reference ques- 
tions and circulated 23,694 books, an increase in both cases over any previous 
year. During the same period, 14,632 volumes were catalogued and classified, 
which brings to 167,795 the number of volumes re-catalogued since the fire 
of 1952. 

On August 1, 1961, Mr. Robert M. Hamilton resigned his position of 
Assistant Librarian (English), to become Assistant Professor of Reference at the 
new Library School of the University of British Columbia in Vancouver. 
Mr. Hamilton served the Library faithfully for over twenty years and he will 
be greatly missed. Mr. J. M. Scantland left to become chief librarian at the 
Public Printing Bureau; Mrs. I. Daniells resigned as assistant head of the 
English cataloguing division and Mr. R. de Varennes was promoted to the 
vacant position. Three senior clerks also retired during the year: Mr. Edgar 
Trudel, after 41 years of service; Mr. Rene For tier, after 20 years, and Mr. 
Etienne Giard, after 16 years. All these departures were regretted, as was the 
retirement of our chief bookbinder, Mr. A. H. Butlin, who subsequently died. 
Mr. Conrad Sabourin was then promoted head of our bindery. 

On January 8, 1962, Mr. James W. MacLeod, another valued librarian, was 
granted leave of absence, for one year, to assume the duties of Chief of the 
Index and Reference Branch (English Section) of the House of Commons. 

Respectfully submitted, 

ERIK J. SPICER, 
Parliamentary Librarian. 
Library of Parliament, 
Ottawa, January 17, 1962. 



LIBRARY OF PARLIAMENT 
REGULATIONS 

Adopted by the Joint Committee on the Library and approved by the 
House of Commons, on the recommendation of the Special Committee on 
Procedure, on September 27, 1961. 

1. The Joint Committee on the Library of Parliament shall meet at the 
call of the Joint Chairman at least once in each session. 

2. The Parliamentary Librarian shall report the state of the Library to 
both Houses, through Mr. Speaker, at the opening of each session. 

3. Persons entitled to borrow books from the library are the Governor 
General, members of the Privy Council, members of the Senate and of the 
House of Commons, officers of the two Houses, Justices of the Supreme Court 
of Canada and of the Exchequer Court, members of the Press Gallery, and 
other persons in accordance with the written authorization of either Speaker 
or of the Parliamentary Librarian. 



10 HOUSE OF COMMONS 10 ELIZABETH II 

4. The Library of Parliament may lend books to other libraries, and 
to government agencies, at the discretion of the Parliamentary Librarian. 

5. An adult member of the public authorized by a Senator, a Member of 
the House of Commons or the Parliamentary Librarian, may consult books 
and periodicals in the Library, but shall not be allowed to borrow them. 

6. Use of the Library's main reading room beyond normal working hours 
may be granted in writing to certain individuals at the discretion of the 
Parliamentary Librarian. 

7. Except with the written approval of either Speaker, or of the Parlia- 
mentary Librarian, books of special value may not be removed from the 
Library. 

8. During the session, the Library shall be open as follows: Mondays, 
Tuesdays and Thursdays, from 9 in the morning until the House rises in the 
evening; Wednesdays and Fridays, from 9 in the morning until 9 in the evening; 
Saturdays, from 9.30 in the morning until 5 in the afternoon; Sundays, from 
2 to 4 in the afternoon. When the House sits in the evening on Wednesdays, 
Fridays or Saturdays, the Library shall remain open until the House rises. 

9. During the recess of Parliament, the Library shall open, Monday through 
Friday (holidays excepted), not later than 9.30 in the morning and shall close 
not earlier than 4 in the afternoon. 

10. The Reading Room of the House of Commons shall be open during the 
same hours as the Library of Parliament, with the exception that, during the 
session, it shall be open on Sundays, from 12 to 4 in the afternoon. 



By Mr. Diefenbaker, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Summaries 
of Orders in Council passed during the periods August 1 to 31, September 1 to 
30, October 1 to 31, and November 1 to 30, 1961. 

By Mr. Diefenbaker, — Statutory Orders and Regulations published in the 
Canada Gazette, Part II, of Wednesday, September 27, October 11 and 25, 
November 8 and 22, and December 13 and 27, 1961, pursuant to section 7 of 
the Regulations Act, chapter 235, R.S.C., 1952, together with Consolidated 
Index and Table of Statutory Orders and Regulations, for the period January 1, 
1955, to September 30, 1961. (English and French). 

By Mr. Balcer, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Statement show- 
ing the lands sold for which transfers have been issued by the Canadian 
Pacific Railway Company during the year ended September 30, 1961, pursuant 
to section 8 of An Act further to amend An Act respecting the Canadian Pacific 
Railway, chapter 9, Statutes of Canada, 1886. 

By Mr. Balcer, — Report of exemptions authorized by the Minister of Trans- 
port under section 137 of the Canada Shipping Act in cases when no master 
or officer was available with required certificate and experience, for the year 
ended December 31, 1961, pursuant to section 137(2) of the said Act, chapter 29, 
R.S.C., 1952. 

By Mr. Balcer,— Order in Council PC. 1961-1662, dated November 16, 1961, 
entrusting to the Canadian National Railway Company the management and 
operation of the M.V. "Petite Forte", effective September 16, 1961, pursuant to 
section 19 of the Canadian National Railways Act, chapter 29, Statutes of 
Canada, 1955. 



A.D. 1962 THURSDAY, 18th JANUARY 11 

By Mr. Balcer,— Order in Council P.C. 1961-1592, dated November 2, 1961, 
entrusting to the Canadian National Railway Company the management and 
operation of a parcel of Canadian Government Railways land, approximately 
14.84 acres, in the City of Moncton, County of Westmorland, Province of New 
Brunswick, required by the Department of National Defence for a Garrison 
Barracks Site, pursuant to section 19 of the Canadian National Railways Act, 
chapter 29, Statutes of Canada, 1955. 

By Mr. Balcer, — Order in Council P.C. 1961-1888, dated December 29, 
1961, entrusting to the Canadian National Railway Company the management 
and operation of the railway approaches constructed at each end of the cause- 
way across the Strait of Canso between Cape Breton Island and the mainland 
of Nova Scotia, together with the line of railway extending across the said 
Causeway, pursuant to section 19 of the Canadian National Railways Act, 
chapter 29, Statutes of Canada, 1955. 

By Mr. Balcer, — Revised Capital Budget of Trans-Canada Air Lines for 
the year ended December 31, 1961, pursuant to section 80(2) of the Financial 
Administration Act, chapter 116, R.S.C., 1952, together with a copy of Order 
in Council P.C. 1961-1856, dated December 28, 1961, approving same. 

By Mr. Balcer, — Revised Capital Budget of The St. Lawrence Seaway 
Authority for the year ended December 31, 1961, pursuant to section 80(2) 
of the Financial Administration Act, chapter 116, R.S.C., 1952, together with a 
copy of Order in Council P.C. 1961-1889, dated December 29, 1961, approving 
same. 

By Mr. Balcer, — Capital Budget of The St. Lawrence Seaway Authority 
for the year ending December 31, 1962, pursuant to section 80(2) of the Finan- 
cial Administration Act, chapter 116, R.S.C., 1952, together with a copy of 
Order in Council P.C. 1962-23, dated January 9, 1962, approving same. 

By Mr. Dinsdale, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Report of 
Operations under the International River Improvements Act for the year 
ended December 31, 1961, pursuant to section 11 of the said Act, chapter 47, 
Statutes of Canada, 1955. 

By Mr. Dinsdale, — Copy of Ordinances, chapters 1 to 5, made by the 
Commissioner in Council of the Yukon Territory, assented to November 29, 
1961, pursuant to section 20 of the Yukon Act, chapter 53, Statutes of Canada, 
1952-53, together with a copy of Order in Council P.C. 1961-1848, dated 
December 21, 1961, approving same. 

By Mr. Dorion, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, by command of 
His Excellency the Governor-General, — Report of the Department of Public 
Printing and Stationery for the year ended March 31, 1961, pursuant to section 
36 of the Public Printing and Stationery Act, chapter 226, R.S.C., 1952. (English 
and French). 

By Mr. Dorion, — Orders in Council, pursuant to section 60(2) of the 
Canada Elections Act, chapter 39, Statutes of Canada, 1960, (English and 
French), as follows: 

(1) Order in Council P.C. 1961-433, dated March 23, 1961, establishing a 
Tariff of Fees for Election Officers and Other Persons Engaged in the Conduct 
of Elections, and revoking the Federal Elections Fees Tariff made by Order in 
Council P.C. 1958-93, dated January 16, 1958. 



12 HOUSE OF COMMONS 10 ELIZABETH II 

(2) Order in Council P.C. 1961-434, dated March 23, 1961, establishing a 
Tariff of Fees for Special Returning Officers and Other Persons Appointed to 
Act at a General Election Pursuant to The Canadian Forces Voting Rules, and 
revoking the Canadian Forces General Elections Fees Tariff made by Order in 
Council P.C. 1958-94, dated January 16, 1958. 

(3) Order in Council P.C. 1961-435, dated March 23, 1961, establishing 
a Tariff of Fees for Election Officers and Other Persons Engaged in the Conduct 
of an Election of Members to Serve in the Councils of the Northwest Territories 
and of the Yukon Territory, and revoking the Yukon and Northwest Territories 
Councils Election Fees Tariff made by Order in Council P.C. 1957-1698, dated 
December 20, 1957. 

(4) Order in Council P.C. 1961-436, dated March 23, 1961, establishing 
a Tariff of Fees for Election Officers and Other Persons Engaged at or with 
Respect to the Conduct of an Election in the Electoral Districts of Yukon and 
Mackenzie River, and revoking the Yukon and Mackenzie River Electoral 
Districts Election Fees Tariff made by Order in Council P.C. 1957-1699, dated 
December 20, 1957. 

By Mr. Dorion, — Return to an Order of the House, dated September 18, 
1961, (*Notice of Motion No. 160) for a copy of all telegrams, letters, petitions, 
and all other documents, since January 1, 1959, concerning the acquisition by 
the Government of Canada of sites for the erection of a public building, namely 
a Post Office, in St. Ferdinand d'Halifax, County of Megantic, Province of 
Quebec. 

By Mr. Dorion, — Return to an Order of the House, dated September 25, 
1961, (* Notice of Motion No. 163) for a copy of all communications received 
by the Minister of Public Works and/or any official of his department, since 
July 1, 1961, in connection with the survey of the proposed Chignecto Canal, 
together with a copy of the reply to each communication. 

By Mr. Dorion, — Supplementary Return to an Order of the House, dated 
November 30, 1960, (Question No. 22) showing: 1. What are the names of 
the Ministers of the Crown, Members of Parliament, Members of the Public 
Service and other Canadian citizens who have been sent outside Canada on 
government business since June 6, 1957? 

2. What was the purpose of each absence? 

3. What was the cost of these absences in (a) travelling expenses; (b) 
living expenses; (c) hospitality? 

By Mr. Dorion, — Return to an Order of the House, dated September 13, 
1961, (^Question No. 465) showing: 1. Since November 1, 1960, has any In- 
dian Band in British Columbia submitted a resolution to the Minister of 
Citizenship and Immigration asking that Section 96A(2) of the Indian Act 
be proclaimed to be in force? 

2. If so, what is the name of each such Band, the date of each such resolu- 
tion, and the present status thereof? 

By Mr. Dorion, — Return to an Order of the House, dated September 13, 
1961, (* Question No. 460) showing: 1. Which, if any, of the Federal Crown 
Companies agree to the payment of sales taxes imposed by provincial govern- 
ments on purchases made by such Crown Companies? 

2. Does the Ontario Hydro Power Commission and the Liquor Control 
Board of Ontario submit to payment of the 11% sales tax of the Federal 
Government with respect to purchases made by them? 



A.D. 1962 THURSDAY, 18th JANUARY 13 

By Mr. Dorion, — Return to an Order of the House, dated September 27, 
1961, (*Question No. 478) showing: 1. On what date did the Federal Govern- 
ment agree to participate in a survey of the feasibility and cost of the Chignecto 
Canal? 

2. On what date did the survey actually start? 

3. Is survey work in progress on the site at the present time? 

4. Have any representations been received since July 1, 1961, in con- 
nection with the Chignecto Canal survey, and, if so, from whom? 

By Mr. Dorion, — Return to an Order of the House, dated September 27, 
1961, (* Question No. 481) showing: 1. For each year from January 1, 1956, 
to December 31, 1960, how many hours has the Canadian Broadcasting Cor- 
poration granted, on both the English and French networks, for (a) radio 
broadcasts, and (b) television broadcasts, to any of the conventions by the 
(i) Progressive Conservative Party (ii) Liberal Party (iii) Social Credit 
Party, and (iv) Co-operative Commonwealth Federation? 

2. In each of the above-mentioned cases, what were the total amounts 
spent for broadcasting purposes? 

By Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — 
Report of the Superintendent of Insurance for Canada, Volume II, Annual 
Statements of Fire and Casualty Insurance Companies, and of Accident and 
Sickness Insurance transacted by Life Insurance Companies in Canada, for 
the year ended December 31, 1960, pursuant to section 9 of the Department of 
Insurance Act, chapter 70, R.S.C., 1952. (English and French). 

By Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), — Report of the President, and Statement of 
Accounts certified by the Auditors, of the Industrial Development Bank for 
the year ended September 30, 1961, pursuant to section 29(4) of the Industrial 
Development Bank Act, chapter 151, R.S.C., 1952. (English and French). 

By Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), — Classification of Loans and Deposits of the 
Chartered Banks of Canada as at September 30, 1961, pursuant to section 
119(1) of the Bank Act, chapter 48, Statutes of Canada, 1953-54. 

By Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), — Report on the Administration of the Public 
Service Superannuation Act, Parts I and II, for the year ended March 31, 1961, 
pursuant to section 34, chapter 47, Statutes of Canada, 1952-53, and section 
49, chapter 64, Statutes of Canada, 1953-54. 

By Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), — Report on Actuarial Examination of the 
Royal Canadian Mounted Police Superannuation Account in the Consolidated 
Revenue Fund as at December 31, 1959, pursuant to section 24 of the Royal 
Canadian Mounted Police Superannuation Act, chapter 34, Statutes of Canada, 
1959. 

By Mr. Flemming (Royal), a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, by 
command of His Excellency the Governor-General, — Report of the Department 
of Forestry for the year ended March 31, 1961, pursuant to section 12 of the 
Department of Forestry Act, chapter 41, Statutes of Canada, 1960. 

By Mr. Flemming (Royal), — Report of the Eastern Rockies Forest Con- 
servation Board for the year ended March 31, 1961, pursuant to section 10 
of the Eastern Rocky Mountain Forest Conservation Act, chapter 59, Statutes 
of Canada, 1947. 



14 HOUSE OF COMMONS 10 ELIZABETH II 

By Mr. Fulton, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Report, dated 
October 13, 1961, of the Restrictive Trade Practices Commission, under the 
Combines Investigation Act, concerning Alleged Attempts at Resale Price 
Maintenance in the Distribution and Sale of Cameras and Related Products 
(Garlick Films Limited). 

By Mr. Fulton, — Report of the Director of Investigation and Research, 
Combines Investigation Act, for the year ended March 31, 1961, pursuant to 
section 44 of the said Act, chapter 314, R.S.C., 1952. 

By Mr. Fulton, — Report on the Administration of Part I of the Royal 
Canadian Mounted Police Superannuation Act for the year ended March 31, 
1961, pursuant to section 25 of the said Act, chapter 34, Statutes of Canada, 
1959. 

By Mr. Fulton,— Order in Council P.C. 1961-1683, dated November 23, 
1961, amending Order in Council P.C. 1954-1976 of December 16, 1954, by 
substituting a new Rule Number 108 of the Bankruptcy Rules, pursuant to 
section 166(2) of the Bankruptcy Act, chapter 14, R.S.C., 1952. (English and 
French). 

By Mr. Fulton, — Report relating to the Administration of the Farmers' 
Creditors Arrangement Act for the year ended March 31, 1961, pursuant to 
section 41(2) of the said Act, chapter 111, R.S.C., 1952. (English and French). 

By Mr. Hees, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Report of 
Operations under the Export and Import Permits Act for the year ended 
December 31, 1961, pursuant to section 26 of the said Act, chapter 27, Statutes 
of Canada, 1953-54. 

By Mr. Hees, — Capital Budgets of Eldorado Mining and Refining Limited, 
Northern Transportation Company Limited, and Eldorado Aviation Limited, 
for the year ending December 31, 1962, pursuant to section 80(2) of the 
Financial Administration Act, chapter 116, R.S.C., 1952, together with a copy 
of Order in Council P.C. 1962-27, dated January 9, 1962, approving same. 

By Mr. Hees, — Orders in Council, pursuant to section 21b of the Export 
Credits Insurance Act, chapter 105, R.S.C., 1952, as amended 1960-61, as 
follows: 

(1) Order in Council P.C. 1961-1483, dated October 17, 1961, authorizing, 
under section 21 of the said Act, a contract of insurance by the Export Credits 
Insurance Corporation for shipments of wheat to Poland prior to December 31, 
1961. 

(2) Order in Council P.C. 1961-1543, dated October 20, 1961, authorizing, 
under section 21a of the said Act, long-term financing by the Export Credits 
Insurance Corporation for the sale by Montreal Locomotive Works, Montreal, of 
70 diesel electric locomotives and spare parts to Empress Ferrocarriles del 
Estado Argentino, Buenos Aires, Argentina (The Argentine State Railways). 

(3) Order in Council P.C. 1961-1620, dated November 9, 1961, authorizing, 
under section 21a of the said Act, long-term financing by the Export Credits 
Insurance Corporation for the sale by Dominion Steel and Coal Corporation, 
Limited, Sydney, of steel rails and track accessories to Ferrocarriles Nacionales 
de Mexico (The Mexican National Railways). 



A.D. 1962 THURSDAY, 18th JANUARY 15 

(4) Order in Council P.C. 1961-1732, dated November 30, 1961, authorizing, 
under section 21a of the said Act, long-term financing by the Export Credits 
Insurance Corporation for the sale by Montreal Locomotive Works, Montreal, of 
10 diesel electric locomotives and spare parts to Companhia Siderurgica 
Nacional, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. 

(5) Order in Council P.C. 1961-1794, dated December 14, 1961, authorizing, 
under section 21a of the said Act, long-term financing by the Export Credits 
Insurance Corporation for the sale by Dominion Steel and Coal Corporation, 
Limited, Sydney, of steel rails and track accessories to Ferrocarriles Nacionales 
de Mexico (The Mexican National Railways), and revoking Order in Council 
P.C. 1961-1620, dated November 9, 1961. 

By Mr. Hees, — Capital Budget of Northern Ontario Pipe Line Crown Corpo- 
ration for the year ending December 31, 1962, pursuant to section 80(2) of the 
Financial Administration Act, chapter 116, R.S.C., 1952, together with a copy 
of Order in Council P.C. 1962-25, dated January 9, 1962, approving same. 

By Mr. Monteith (Perth), a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — 
Report of Expenditures and Administration in connection with the Family 
Allowances Act and the Old Age Security Act for the year ended March 31, 
1961, pursuant to section 14 of the Family Allowances Act, chapter 109, R.S.C., 
1952, and section 12 of the Old Age Security Act, chapter 200, R.S.C., 1952. 
(English and French). 

By Mr. Monteith (Perth), — Report on the Operation of Agreements with 
the Provinces under the Hospital Insurance and Diagnostic Services Act for 
the year ended March 31, 1961, pursuant to section 9 of the said Act, chapter 
28, Statutes of Canada, 1957. (English and French). 

By Mr. Starr, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, by command of 
His Excellency the Governor-General, — Report of the Department of Labour 
for the year ended March 31, 1961. 

By Mr. Starr, — Copies of Authentic Texts of a Convention and a Recom- 
mendation adopted by the Forty-fifth Session of the International Labour 
Conference, held in Geneva in June 1961 (English and French), together with 
copies of a letter from the Deputy Attorney General of Canada, setting out 
the legislative jurisdiction of these international instruments, as follows: 

Convention No. 116 concerning the Partial Revision of the Conventions 
adopted by the General Conference of the International Labour Organisation 
at its first Thirty-Two Sessions for the purpose of Standardising the Provisions 
regarding the Preparation of Reports by the Governing Body of the Inter- 
national Labour Office on the Working of Conventions; and 

Recommendation No. 115 concerning Workers' Housing. 



At 5.15 o'clock p.m., on motion of Mr. Diefenbaker, seconded by Mr. 
Churchill, the House adjourned until tomorrow at 2.30 o'clock p.m. pursuant 
to Order made this day. 



A.D. 1962 FRIDAY, 19th JANUARY 17 

No. 2 

JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, FRIDAY, 19th JANUARY, 1962. 



2.30 o'clock p.m. 
Prayers. 

Mrs. Fairclough, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, laid before the 
House, — Immigration Regulations, Part I, made by Order in Council P.C. 1962- 
86, dated January 18, 1962, and also Part II of the said Regulations made by 
Ministerial Order. (English and French). 



The Order for the consideration of the Speech of His Excellency the 
Governor- General to both Houses of Parliament being read; 

Mr. Bourdages, seconded by Mr. Browne (Vancouver-Kingsway), moved, — 
That the following Address be presented to His Excellency the Governor- General 
of Canada: 

To His Excellency Major-General George P. Vanier, Companion of the 
Distinguished Service Order, upon whom has been conferred the Military 
Cross and the Canadian Forces' Decoration, Governor-General and Com- 
mander-in-Chief of Canada. 

May It Please Your Excellency: 

We, Her Majesty's most loyal and dutiful subjects, the House of Commons 
of Canada, in Parliament assembled, beg leave to offer our humble thanks to 
Your Excellency for the gracious Speech which Your Excellency has addressed 
to both Houses of Parliament. 

And debate arising thereon; the said debate was, on motion of Mr. Pearson, 
seconded by Mr. Chevrier, adjourned. 



18 HOUSE OF COMMONS 10 ELIZABETH II 

Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Churchill, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, by command of 
His Excellency the Governor-General, — Report of the Department of Veterans 
Affairs, the Canadian Pension Commission and the War Veterans Allowance 
Board for the year ended March 31, 19B1, pursuant to section 9 of the Depart- 
ment of Veterans Affairs Act, chapter 80, R.S.C., 1952. 

By Mr. Flynn, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, by command of His 
Excellency the Governor- General, — Report on the Administration of the Emer- 
gency Gold Mining Assistance Act for the year ended March 31, 1961, 
pursuant to section 10 of the said Act, chapter 95, R.S.C., 1952. (English and 
French). 

By Mr. Charlton, Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Agriculture, — 
Report on Activities under the Prairie Farm Assistance Act for the Crop Year 
ended July 31, 1961, pursuant to section 12 of the said Act, chapter 213, 
R.S.C., 1952. 

■ 

At 4.28 o'clock p.m., on motion of Mr. Diefenbaker, seconded by Mr. 
Churchill, the House adjourned until Monday next at 2.30 o'clock p.m. pursuant 
to Standing Order 2(2). 



A.D. 1962 MONDAY, 22nd JANUARY 19 

No. 3 

JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, MONDAY, 22nd JANUARY, 1962. 



2.30 o'clock p.m. 

Prayers. 

Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, laid 
before the House, pursuant to section 6 of the Tariff Board Act, chapter 261, 
R.S.C., 1952: 

(1) Ninth Report by the Tariff Board, dated April 13, 1961, relative to 
the Investigation Ordered by the Minister of Finance respecting Batting and 
Wadding and Coated or Impregnated Fabrics — Reference No. 125 (Textiles), 
(English and French), together with a copy of the transcript of evidence pre- 
sented at public hearings; and 

(2) Tenth Report by the Tariff Board, dated June 28, 1961, relative to the 
Investigation Ordered by the Minister of Finance respecting Hats, Caps and 
Related Products — Reference No. 125 (Textiles), (English and French), to- 
gether with a copy of the transcript of evidence presented at public hearings. 



Mr. Browne (Vancouver-Kings way), seconded by Mr. Brunsden, by leave 
of the House, introduced Bill C-2, An Act to provide for the Establishment of a 
Hospital Sweepstakes Board, which was read the first time and ordered for a 
second reading at the next sitting of the House. 



Mr. Howard, seconded by Mr. Herridge, by leave of the House, introduced 
Bill C-3, An Act to amend the Coastal Fisheries Protection Act (Twelve Mile 
Fishing Zone), which was read the first time and ordered for a second reading 
at the next sitting of the House. 



20 HOUSE OF COMMONS 10 ELIZABETH II 

Mr. Pickersgill, seconded l^y Mr. Benidickson, by leave of the House, in- 
troduced Bill C-4, An Act to amend the Canadian Bill of Rights, which was read 
the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House. 



Mr. Howard, seconded by Mr. Martin (Timmins), by leave of the House, 
introduced Bill C-5, An Act to amend the Industrial Relations and Disputes 
Investigation Act, which was read the first time and ordered for a second 
reading at the next sitting of the House. 



Mr. Nasserden, seconded by Mr. Rapp, by leave of the House, introduced 
Bill C-6, An Act to amend the Interest Act (Finance Charges), which was 
read the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the 
House. 



Mr. Thomas, seconded by Mr. Drysdale, by leave of the House, introduced 
Bill C-7, An Act to amend the Railway Act (Abandonment), which was read 
the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House. 



Mr. Argue, seconded by Mr. Herridge, by leave of the House, introduced 
Bill C-8, An Act to amend the Interest Act, which was read the first time and 
ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House. 



Mr. Browne (Vancouver-Kings way), seconded by Mr. Brunsden, by leave 
of the House, introduced Bill C-9, An Act to amend the Railway Act, which 
was read the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting 
of the House. 



By unanimous consent, Mr. Habel for Mr. Boulanger, seconded by Mr. 
Cardin, by leave of the House, introduced Bill C-10, An Act to amend the 
Financial Administration Act, which was read the first time and ordered for 
a second reading at the next sitting of the House. 



Mr. Howard, seconded by Mr. Herridge, by leave of the House, introduced 
Bill C-ll, An Act to amend the Industrial Relations and Disputes Investigation 
Act (Application to Civil Service), which was read the first time and ordered 
for a second reading at the next sitting of the House. 



Mr. McGee, seconded by Mr. McGrath, by leave of the House, introduced 
Bill C-12, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (Capital Punishment), which 
was read the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting 
of the House. 



A.D. 1962 MONDAY, 22nd JANUARY 21 

Mr. Herridge, seconded by Mr. Argue, by leave of the House, introduced 
Bill C-13, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (Nuisance), which was read 
the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House. 

Mr. Nielsen, seconded by Mr. Wratten, by leave of the House, introduced 
Bill C-14, An Act to amend the Representation Act, which was read the first 
time and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House. 

Mr. Rapp, seconded by Mr. Nasserden, by leave of the House, introduced 
Bill C-15, An Act to amend the Canada Grain Act (Rapeseed and Mustard 
seed), which was read the first time and ordered for a second reading at the 
next sitting of the House. 

Mr. Howard, seconded by Mr. Herridge, by leave of the House, introduced 
Bill C-16, An Act to amend the Canada Elections Act (Age of Voters), which 
was read the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting 
of the House. 



Mr. Howard, seconded by Mr. Herridge, by leave of the House, introduced 
Bill C-17, An Act to amend the House of Commons Act (Internal Economy 
Autonomy), which was read the first time and ordered for a second reading 
at the next sitting of the House. 

Mr. Pigeon, seconded by Mr. Paul, by leave of the House, introduced Bill 
C-18, An Act respecting the Printing of Negotiable Instruments in the English 
and the French Languages, which was read the first time and ordered for a 
second reading at the next sitting of the House. 

Mr. Argue, seconded by Mr. Herridge, by leave of the House, introduced 
Bill C-19, An Act to amend the Small Loans Act, which was read the first time 
and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House. 

Mr. Pickersgill, seconded by Mr. Nixon, by leave of the House, introduced 
Bill C-20, An Act to amend the House of Commons Act (Election "Writs for 
By-elections), which was read the first time and ordered for a second reading 
at the next sitting of the House. 

Mr. Mcintosh, seconded by Mr. Rogers, by leave of the House, introduced 
Bill C-21, An Act to amend the Pension Act (Judicial Appeal), which was 
read the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the 
House. 



Mr. McGee, seconded by Mr. McGrath, by leave of the House, introduced 
Bill C-22, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (Corporal Punishment), which 
was read the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of 
the House. 



22 HOUSE OF COMMONS 10 ELIZABETH II 

Mr. Argue, seconded by Mr. Herridge, by leave of the House, introduced 
Bill C-23, An Act to amend the Small Loans Act (Advertising), which was read 
the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House. 



Mr. Howard, seconded by Mr. Herridge, by leave of the House, introduced 
Bill C-24, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (Trading Stamps), which was 
read the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the 
House. 



By unanimous consent, Mr. Dubois for Mr. Allard, seconded by Mr. Lahaye, 
introduced Bill C-25, An Act respecting the Sovereignty of Canada, which 
was read the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of 
the House. 



Mr. Howard, seconded by Mr. Herridge, by leave of the House, introduced 
Bill C-26, An Act to amend the Indian Act (Liquor Rights), which was read 
the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the 
House. 



Mr. Argue, seconded by Mr. Herridge, by leave of the House, introduced 
Bill C-27, An Act to amend the Bankruptcy Act (Wage Earners' Assignments), 
which was read the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next 
sitting of the House. 



Mr. Nielsen, seconded by Mr. Knowles, by leave of the House, introduced 
Bill C-28, An Act to amend the British North America Acts, 1867 to 1960, 
with respect to Representation in the Senate, which was read the first time 
and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House. 



Mr. Howard, seconded by Mr. Herridge, by leave of the House, introduced 
Bill C-29, An Act to amend the Canada Fair Employment Practices Act (Age 
Discrimination), which was read the first time and ordered for a second 
reading at the next sitting of the House. 



Mr. Pigeon, seconded by Mr. Martel, by leave of the House, introduced 
Bill C-30, An Act to provide for a Canadian Lottery, which was read the 
first time and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House. 

By unanimous consent, Mr. Deschatelets for Mr. Boulanger, seconded by 
Mr. Clermont, by leave of the House, introduced Bill C-31, An Act respecting 
Flags of Canada, which was read the first time and ordered for a second 
reading at the next sitting of the House. 

Mr. Herridge, seconded by Mr. Argue, by leave of the House, introduced 
Bill C-32, An Act to amend the Broadcasting Act (Human Rights abuses 
remedied), which was read the first time and ordered for a second reading at 
the next sitting of the House. 



A.D. 1962 MONDAY, 22nd JANUARY 23 

Mr. Thomas, seconded by Mr. Drysdale, by leave of the House, introduced 
Bill C-33, An Act to amend the National Energy Board Act (Drainage Works), 
which was read the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next 
sitting of the House. 



Mr. McGee, seconded by Mr. McGrath, by leave of the House, introduced 
Bill C-34, An Act to amend the Canada Elections Act (Campaign Contribu- 
tions), which was read the first time and ordered for a second reading at the 
next sitting of the House. 



Mr. Drysdale, seconded by Mr. Browne (Vancouver-Kings way), by leave 
of the House, introduced Bill C-35, An Act to amend the Aeronautics Act, 
which was read the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next 
sitting of the House. 



Mr. Churchill, seconded by Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), by leave of the 
House, introduced Bill C-36, An Act to amend the War Service Grants Act, 
which was read the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next 
sitting of the House. 



Mr. Churchill, seconded by Mr. Hees, by leave of the House, introduced 
Bill C-37, An Act to amend the Veterans Insurance Act, which was read the 
first time and ordered for a secod reading at the next sitting of the House. 



Mr. Fulton, seconded by Mr. Monteith (Perth), by leave of the House, 
introduced Bill C-38, An Act to provide for the Reporting of Financial and 
other Statistics relating to the Affairs of Corporations and Labour Unions 
carrying on Activities in Canada, which was read the first time and ordered 
for a second reading at the next sitting of the House. 



Mr. Carter, seconded by Mr. Hellyer, by leave of the House, introduced 
Bill C-39, An Act to amend the Merchant Seamen Compensation Act, which 
was read the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of 
the House. 



Mr. Churchill, seconded by Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), moved, — That the 
House do go into Committee of the Whole at its next sitting to consider the 
following proposed resolution which has been recommended to the House by 
His Excellency: — 

That it is expedient to introduce a measure to amend the Civilian War 
Pensions and Allowances Act to permit the payment of allowances, similar 
to those provided for veterans and their dependants under the War Veterans 
Allowance Act, 1952, to surviving former members and to certain dependants 
of deceased members of a number of civilian groups of Canadians who made 
outstanding voluntary contributions to the war effort during World War I and 
World War II under difficult and dangerous conditions. 

Resolved, — That the House do go into Committee of the Whole at its next 
sitting to consider the said proposed resolution. 



24 HOUSE OF COMMONS 10 ELIZABETH II 

Mr. Churchill, seconded by Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), moved, — That the 
House do go into Committee of the Whole at its next sitting to consider the 
following proposed resolution which has been recommended to the House by 
His Excellency: — 

That it is expedient to introduce a measure to amend the Children of War 
Dead (Education Assistance) Act to clarify the definition of "student"; to 
extend the benefits under the Act to certain classes of children; to extend in 
certain cases the education-assistance period; to extend in the case of particular 
students the age limit at which all benefits will cease; to accept a student for 
assistance under the Act where his education has been interrupted by ill health 
or other good cause; and to increase the rate of allowances. 

Resolved, — That the House do go into Committee of the Whole at its next 
sitting to consider the said proposed resolution. 

Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), seconded by Mr. Churchill, moved, — That the 
House do go into Committee of the Whole at its next sitting to consider the 
following proposed resolution which has been recommended to the House by 
His Excellency: — 

That it is expedient to introduce a measure to amend the Farm Improve- 
ment Loans Act to provide for the making of guaranteed loans during the 
period July 1st, 1962 to June 30th, 1965, and to establish four hundred million 
dollars as the limit of guaranteed loans that may be made during the new loan 
period. 

Resolved, — That the House do go into Committee of the Whole at its next 
sitting to consider the said proposed resolution. 

Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), seconded by Mr. Churchill, moved, — That the 
House do go into Committee of the Whole at its next sitting to consider the 
following proposed resolution which has been recommended to the House by 
His Excellency: — 

That it is expedient to introduce a measure to amend the Fisheries Im- 
provement Loans Act to extend the period during which guaranteed loans may 
be made to the 30th day of June, 1965. 

Resolved, — That the House do go into Committee of the Whole at its next 
sitting to consider the said proposed resolution. 

The form of the following Notice of Motion having been amended by 
unanimous consent, the said Notice of Motion was called and transferred to 
Government Orders for consideration at the next sitting of the House pursuant 
to Standing Order 21(2): 

That it is expedient that the Houses of Parliament approve the Universal 
Copyright Convention signed by Canada in Geneva in 1952 and Protocol 3 
thereto, and that this House do approve the same. — The Secretary of State. 

The House resumed the adjourned debate on the proposed motion of Mr. 
Bourdages, seconded by Mr. Browne (Vancouver-Kingsway), — That the fol- 
lowing Address be presented to His Excellency the Governor-General of 
Canada: 

To His Excellency Major-General George P. Vanier, Companion of the 
Distinguished Service Order, upon whom has been conferred the Military 
Cross and the Canadian Forces' Decoration, Governor-General and Commander- 
in-Chief of Canada. 



A.D. 1962 MONDAY, 22nd JANUARY 25 

May It Please Your Excellency: 

We, Her Majesty's most loyal and dutiful subjects, the House of Commons 
of Canada, in Parliament assembled, beg leave to offer our humble thanks to 
Your Excellency for the gracious Speech which Your Excellency has addressed 
to both Houses of Parliament. 

And debate continuing; 

Mr. Pearson, seconded by Mr. Chevrier, moved in amendment thereto, — 
That the following be added to the Address: 

"We respectfully affirm that Your Excellency's advisers, because of 
their continuing failure to bring forward policies to deal with the real 
problems confronting this country, do not deserve the confidence of the 
House of Commons." 

And debate arising thereon; the said debate was interrupted at ten 
o'clock. 



By unanimous consent, Mr. Diefenbaker, a Member of the Queen's Privy 
Council, laid before the House, — Copy of a letter, dated January 17, 1962, 
addressed by the Prime Minister of Canada to the Premier of Ontario, con- 
cerning a proposed amendment to the British North America Act relating to 
social security in Canada. 

By unanimous consent, it was ordered that the said letter be printed as an 
Appendix to this day's Hansard. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Dinsdale, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — List of Appor- 
tionments and Adjustments of Seed Grain, Fodder for Animals and Other Re- 
lief Indebtedness for the period from November 18, 1960, to January 18, 1962, 
pursuant to section 2 of An Act respecting Certain Debts due the Crown, 
chapter 51, Statutes of Canada, 1926-27. 

By Mr. Dinsdale, — Statement concerning Refunds under The Refunds 
(Natural Resources) Act, pursuant to section 3 of the said Act, chapter 35, 
Statutes of Canada, 1932. 

By Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), a Member of the Queers Privy Council, — 
Report of the Superintendent of Insurance for Canada — Co-operative Credit 
Societies, for the year ended December 31, 1960. 

By Mr. MacLean (Queens), a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — 
Order in Council P.C. 1961-341, dated March 9, 1961, authorizing the Manner 
in which Fishing Bounty may be distributed for the year ended March 31, 1961, 
together with a Statement of the Mode in which such payments were author- 
ized for the said year, pursuant to section 4 of the Deep Sea Fisheries Act, 
chapter 61, R.S.C., 1952. 

By Mr. Lambert, Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of National 
Revenue, by command of His Excellency the Governor- General, — Report of 

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26 HOUSE OF COMMONS 10 ELIZABETH II 

the Department of National Revenue containing Statements relative to Customs- 
Excise Revenue and Other Services by Ports; Excise and Income of Canada, 
for the year ended March 31, 1961, pursuant to section 5 of the Department of 
National Revenue Act, chapter 75, R.S.C., 1952. (English and French). 

By Mr. Lambert, — Statement concerning Regulations respecting Petroleum 
and Pulp wood, pursuant to section 5(2) of the Export Act, chapter 103, 
R.S.C., 1952. 



At 10.03 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until tomorrow at 11.00 o'clock a.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(2). 






A.D. 1962 TUESDAY, 23rd JANUARY 27 

No. 4 

JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, TUESDAY, 23rd JANUARY, 1962. 



11.00 o'clock a.m. 
Prayers. 

Mr. Diefenbaker, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, by command 
of His Excellency the Governor-General, laid before the House, — Report of 
the Royal Commission on Transportation (M. A. MacPherson, Q.C., Chairman), 
Volume II, dated December 1961, together with a Summary of the said 
Report. (English and French). 



Mr. Peters, seconded by Mr. Howard, by leave of the House, introduced 
Bill C-40, An Act respecting the Jurisdiction of the Exchequer Court of 
Canada, which was read the first time and ordered for a second reading at 
the next sitting of the House. 

Mr. Peters, seconded by Mr. Howard, by leave of the House, introduced 
Bill C-41, An Act to establish the Office of Parliamentary Proctor and to 
regulate Taxation of Costs, which was read the first time and ordered for a 
second reading at the next sitting of the House. 

Mr. Peters, seconded by Mr. Howard, by leave of the House, introduced 
Bill C-42, An Act to provide for Minimum Wages for Employees, which was 
read the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of 
the House. 

Mr. Peters, seconded by Mr. Howard, by leave of the House, introduced 
Bill C-43, An Act to provide in Canada for the Dissolution and the Annulment 
of Marriage, which was read the first time and ordered for a second reading 
at the next sitting of the House. 

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28 HOUSE OF COMMONS 10 ELIZABETH II 

Mr. Morris, seconded by Mr. McCleave, by leave of the House, introduced 
Bill C-44, An Act to amend the Representation Act (Halifax Electoral 
District), which was read the first time and ordered for a second reading 
at the next sitting of the House. 



Mr. Peters, seconded by Mr. Martin (Timmins), by leave of the House, 
introduced Bill C-45, An Act to amend the Bills of Exchange Act (Instalment 
Purchases), which was read the first time and ordered for a second reading 
at the next sitting of the House. 



The House resumed debate on the proposed motion of Mr. Bourdages, 
seconded by Mr. Browne (Vancouver-Kingsway), — That the following Address 
be presented to His Excellency the Governor-General of Canada: 

To His Excellency Major-General George P. Vanier, Companion of the 
Distinguished Service Order, upon whom has been conferred the Military 
Cross and the Canadian Forces' Decoration, Governor-General and Commander- 
in-Chief of Canada. 

May It Please Your Excellency: 

We, Her Majesty's most loyal and dutiful subjects, the House of Commons 
of Canada, in Parliament assembled, beg leave to offer our humble thanks to 
Your Excellency for the gracious Speech which Your Excellency has addressed 
to both Houses of Parliament. 

And on the proposed motion of Mr. Pearson, seconded by Mr. Chevrier, 
in amendment thereto, — That the following be added to the Address: 

"We respectfully affirm that Your Excellency's advisers, because of 
their continuing failure to bring forward policies to deal with the real 
problems confronting this country, do not deserve the confidence of the 
House of Commons." 

And debate continuing; 

Mr. Argue, seconded by Mr. Herridge, moved in amendment to the said 
proposed amendment, — That the amendment be amended by inserting the 
following words after the word 'country,': 

"including the failure to promote the planned development of our 
resources, sound monetary, fiscal, investment and trade policies which 
will develop our economy so as to provide: 

1. expanding export markets for agricultural and industrial production; 

2. full employment; 

3. and, in co-operation with the provinces, a prepaid medical care 
program for all Canadians; 

and for these reasons". 

And debate arising thereon; at 9.45 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker interrupted 
the proceedings pursuant to Standing Order 38(3) as provisionally amended; 

And the question being put on the said proposed amendment to the 
amendment, it was negatived on the following division: 



A.D. 1962 



TUESDAY, 23rd JANUARY 



Yeas 
Messrs: 



Argue, 


Clermont, 


Howard, 


Pitman, 


Badanai, 


Crestohl, 


LaMarsh (Miss), 


Racine, 


Batten, 


Denis, 


Lessard, 


Regier, 


Benidickson, 


Deschatelets, 


Macnaughton, 


Richard 


Boivin, 


Dumas, 


Mcllraith, 


(Ottawa East), 


Boulanger, 


Dupuis, 


McMillan, 


Richard 


B our get, 


Eudes, 


McWilliam, 


(Saint-Maurice- 


Bourque, 


Forgie, 


Martin (Timmins), 


Lafleche), 


Brassard 


Garland, 


Matheson, 


Robichaud, 


(Lapointe), 


Godin, 


Michaud, 


Rouleau, 


Cardin, 


Granger, 


Mitchell, 


Tardif, 


Caron, 


Habel, 


Peters, 


Tucker, 


Carter, 


Herridge, 


Pickersgill, 


Winch — 49. 


Chevrier, 










Nays 


. 




Messrs: 




Aiken, 


Drysdale, 


Lennard, 


Pallett, 


Aitken (Miss), 


Dubois, 


Letourneau, 


Parizeau, 


Allard, 


English, 


Macdonald (Mrs.), 


Pascoe, 


Balcer, 


Fairfield, 


Macdonnell, 


Phillips, 


Barrington, 


Fane, 


MacEwan, 


Pigeon, 


Baskin, 


Fleming (Eglinton), 


Maclnnis, 


Pratt, 


Beech, 


Fleming (Okanagan- 


MacLean (Queens), 


Pugh, 


Bell (Carleton), 


Revelstoke), 


MacLean (Winnipeg 


Rapp, 


Bell (Saint John- 


Flemming (Royal), 


North Centre), 


Ricard, 


Albert), 


Flynn, 


MacRae, 


Richard 


Belzile, 


Forbes, 


McBain, 


(Kamouraska), 


Bissonnette, 


Frechette, 


McCleave, 


Robinson, 


Bourbonnais, 


Fulton, 


McFarlane, 


Rogers, 


Bourdages, 


Gillet, 


McGee, 


Rompre, 


Brassard 


Grafftey, 


McGrath, 


Rynard, 


(Chicoutimi), 


Gundlock, 


McGregor, 


Simpson, 


Broome, 


Hales, 


Mcintosh, 


Skoreyko, 


Browne (St. John's 


Hamilton 


McLennan, 


Slogan, 


West), 


(Notre-Dame- 


McQuillan, 


Small, 


Browne (Vancouver- 


de-Grace), 


Mandziuk, 


Smallwood, 


Kingsway), 


Harkness, 


Martel, 


Smith (Calgary 


Bruchesi, 


Henderson, 


Martini, 


South), 


Brunsden, 


Hicks, 


Matthews, 


Smith (Lincoln), 


Cadieu, 


Hodgson, 


Milligan, 


Smith (Simcoe 


Campbell 


Horner (Acadia), 


Monteith (Perth), 


North), 


(Lambton-Kent), 


Horner 


Montgomery, 


Smith (Winnipeg 


Cardiff, 


(Jasper-Edson), 


More, 


North), 


Casselman (Mrs.), 


Horner 


Morissette, 


Southam, 


Cathers, 


(The Battlefords), 


Morris, 


Speakman, 


Chambers, 


Howe, 


Morton, 


Spencer, 


Charlton, 


Johnson, 


Muir (Cape 


Starr, 


Chatterton, 


Jones, 


Breton North 


Stefanson, 


Churchill, 


Jorgenson, 


and Victoria), 


Stewart, 


Clancy, 


Jung, 


Muir (Lisgar), 


Taylor, 


Coates, 


Keays, 


Nasserden, 


Thomas, 


Cooper, 


Kennedy, 


Nesbitt, 


Tremblay, 


Creaghan, 


Kindt, 


Nielsen, 


Valade, 


Crouse, 


Knowles, 


Noble, 


Villeneuve, 


Danforth, 


Korchinski, 


Nowlan, 


Vivian, 


Deschambault, 


Kucherepa, 


Nugent, 


Walker, 


Diefenbaker, 


Lahaye, 


O'Hurley, 


Webb, 


Dinsdale, 


Lambert, 


O'Leary, 


Weichel, 


Doucett, 


Legere, 


Ormiston, 


Winkler— 155. 



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Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Balcer, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Capital Budget 
of the National Harbours Board for the year ending December 31, 1962, pursu- 
ant to section 80(2) of the Financial Administration Act, chapter 116, R.S.C., 
1952, together with a copy of Order in Council P.O. 1962-24, dated January 9, 
1962, approving same. 

By Mr. Dorion, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Universal Copy- 
right Convention, done at Geneva September 6, 1952, with Protocols 1, 2, and 
3 annexed thereto. (English and French). 



At 10.11 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until tomorrow at 2.30 o'clock p.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(2). 



A.D. 1962 WEDNESDAY, 24th JANUARY 31 

No. 5 

JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, WEDNESDAY, 24th JANUARY, 1962. 

2.30 o'clock p.m. 



Prayers. 



Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, delivered 
a Message from His Excellency the Governor-General, which was read by 
Mr. Speaker, as follows: 

GEORGE P. VANIER 

The Governor-General transmits to the House of Commons Further 
Supplementary Estimates (2) of sums required for the service of Canada for 
the year ending on the 31st March, 1962, and, in accordance with the provisions 
of the British North America Act, 1867, the Governor- General recommends 
these Estimates to the House of Commons. 
Government House, Ottawa. 

On motion of Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), seconded by Mr. Churchill, the said 
Message and Further Supplementary Estimates (2) were referred to the Com- 
mittee of Supply. 



Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), laid before the House: 

(1) Communique issued January 4, 1962, following the conclusion of talks 
held in Ottawa, concerning European trading developments, between Cana- 
dian Ministers and Mr. Edward Heath, Lord Privy Seal in the British Govern- 
ment; and 

(2) Communique issued January 13, 1962, after the Seventh Meeting 
of the Joint Canada-United States Committee on Trade and Economic Affairs 
held in Ottawa on January 12 and 13, 1962. 

By unanimous consent, it was ordered that the said communiques be 
printed as Appendices to this day's Hansard. 



32 HOUSE OF COMMONS 10 ELIZABETH n 

The House resumed debate on the proposed motion of Mr. Bourdages, 
seconded by Mr. Browne (Vancouver-Kings way), — That the following Address 
be presented to His Excellency the Governor-General of Canada: 

To His Excellency Major-General George P. Vanier, Companion of the 
Distinguished Service Order, upon whom has been conferred the Military 
Cross and the Canadian Forces' Decoration, Governor-General and Commander- 
in-Chief of Canada. 

May It Please Your Excellency: 

We, Her Majesty's most loyal and dutiful subjects, the House of Commons 
of Canada, in Parliament assembled, beg leave to offer our humble thanks to 
Your Excellency for the gracious Speech which Your Excellency has addressed 
to both Houses of Parliament. 

And on the proposed motion of Mr. Pearson, seconded by Mr. Chevrier, 
in amendment thereto, — That the following be added to the Address: 

"We respectfully affirm that Your Excellency's advisers, because of 
their continuing failure to bring forward policies to deal with the real 
problems confronting this country, do not deserve the confidence of the 
House of Commons." 

And debate continuing; the said debate was interrupted. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. MacLean (Queens), a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, by 
command of His Excellency the Governor-General, — Report of the Depart- 
ment of Fisheries for the year ended December 31, 1960, and the Financial 
Statements of the Department for the year ended March 31, 1961, pursuant 
to section 8 of the Department of Fisheries Act, chapter 69, R.S.C., 1952. 

By Mr. O'Hurley, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Capital 
Budget of Polymer Corporation Limited for the year ending December 31, 
1962, pursuant to section 80(2) of the Financial Administration Act, chapter 
116, R.S.C., 1952, together with a copy of Order in Council P.C. 1962-22, dated 
January 9, 1962, approving same. 



At six o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until tomorrow at 11.00 o'clock a.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(2). 



A.D. 1962 THURSDAY, 25th JANUARY 33 

No. 6 

JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, THURSDAY, 25th JANUARY, 1962. 



11.00 o'clock a.m. 
Prayers. 

A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Honourable Senators Aseltine, Cameron, Davies, Fergusson, Fournier, Glad- 
stone, Gouin, Irvine, Lambert, Macdonald (Cape Breton) , MacDonald, Mc- 
Donald, Pouliot, Reid, Vien, Wall, and Wilson have been appointed a Com- 
mittee to assist the Honourable the Speaker in the direction of the Library 
of Parliament, so far as the interests of the Senate are concerned, and to act 
on behalf of the Senate as Members of a Joint Committee of both Houses on 
the said Library. 



A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Honourable Senators Barbour, Beaubien (Bedford), Blais, Bouffard, Bradley, 
Choquette, Comeau, Davies, Isnor, McGrand, Pearson, Reid, Savoie, Smith 
(Kamloops), Stambaugh, Thorvaldson, Turgeon, and Wood have been ap- 
pointed a Committee to superintend the printing of the Senate during the 
present Session and to act on behalf of the Senate as Members of a Joint 
Committee of both Houses on the subject of the Printing of Parliament. 



A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Honourable the Speaker, the Honourable Senators Beaubien (Provencher) , 
Fergusson, Hodges, McLean, Reid, and White have been appointed a Committee 
to direct the Management of the Restaurant of Parliament, so far as the interests 
of the Senate are concerned, and to act on behalf of the Senate as Members 
of a Joint Committee of both Houses on the said Restaurant. 

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Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), seconded by Mr. Balcer, moved, — That the House 
do go into Committee of the Whole at its next sitting to consider the follow- 
ing proposed resolution which has been recommended to the House by His 
Excellency: — 

That it is expedient to introduce a measure to amend the Currency, Mint 
and Exchange Fund Act to authorize the Minister of Finance to purchase, out 
of the Exchange Fund Account maintained under the Act, securities of the 
International Monetary Fund. 

Resolved, — That the House do go into Committee of the Whole at its 
next sitting to consider the said proposed resolution. 



The House resumed debate on the proposed motion of Mr. Bourdages, 
seconded by Mr. Browne (Vancouver-Kings way), — That the following Address 
be presented to His Excellency the Governor- General of Canada: 

To His Excellency Major-General George P. Vanier, Companion of the 
Distinguished Service Order, upon whom has been conferred the Military 
Cross and the Canadian Forces' Decoration, Governor-General and Commander- 
in-Chief of Canada. 



May It Please Your Excellency: 

We, Her Majesty's most loyal and dutiful subjects, the House of Commons 
of Canada, in Parliament assembled, beg leave to offer our humble thanks to 
Your Excellency for the gracious Speech which Your Excellency has addressed 
to both Houses of Parliament. 

And on the proposed motion of Mr. Pearson, seconded by Mr. Chevrier, 
in amendment thereto, — That the following be added to the Address: 

"We respectfully affirm that Your Excellency's advisers, because of 
their continuing failure to bring forward policies to deal with the real 
problems confronting this country, do not deserve the confidence of the 
House of Commons." 

And debate continuing; at 9.30 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker interrupted the 
proceedings pursuant to Standing Order 38(4) as provisionally amended; 

And the question being put on the said proposed amendment, it was 
negatived on the following division: 

Yeas 







Messrs: 




Argue, 


Chevrier, 


Herridge, 


Mitchell, 


Badanai, 


Clermont, 


Leduc, 


Pearson, 


Batten, 


Crestohl, 


Macnaughton, 


Peters, 


Boivin, 


Denis, 


Mcllraith, 


Pitman, 


Boulanger, 


Deschatelets, 


McMillan, 


Regier, 


Bourget, 


Dumas, 


McWilliam, 


Richard 


Bourque, 


Dupuis, 


Martin (Essex East), 


(Ottawa East), 


Brassard 


Eudes, 


Martin (Timmins), 


Robichaud, 


(Lapointe), 


Forgie, 


Matheson, 


Rouleau, 


Caron, 


Habel, 


Meunier, 


Tardif, 


Carter, 


Hellyer, 


Michaud, 


Tucker — 42. 



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THURSDAY, 25th JANUARY 



35 





Nays 




• 


Messrs: 


: i 


Aitken (Miss), 


Fane, 


Macdonnell, 


O'Leary, 


Allmark, 


Fleming (Eglinton), 


MacEwan, 


Ormiston, 


Barrington, 


Fleming (Okanagan- 


• Maclnnis, 


Parizeau, 


Beech, 


Revelstoke), 


MacLean (Queens), 


Pascoe, 


Bell (Carleton), 


Flemming (Royal), 


Macquarrie, 


Phillips, 


Bell (Saint John- 


Flynn, 


MacRae, 


Pigeon, 


Albert), 


Forbes, 


McBain, 


Pratt, 


Belzile, 


Frechette, 


McCleave, 


Pugh, 


Bigg, 


Fulton, 


McDonald 


Rapp, 


Bissonnette, 


Grafftey, 


(Hamilton South), 


Ricard, 


Bourbonnais, 


Green, 


McFarlane, 


Richard 


Bourdages, 


Grills, 


McGee, 


(Kamouraska), 


Broome, 


Gundlock, 


McGrath, 


Rogers, 


Browne (St. John's 


Hales, 


McGregor, 


RomprS, 


West), 


Hamilton 


Mcintosh, 


Sevigny, 


Browne (Vancouver- 


(Notre-Dame- 


McLennan, 


Skoreyko, 


Kingsway), 


de-Grace), 


McQuillan, 


Small, 


Bruchesi, 


Hanbidge, 


Mandziuk, 


Smallwood, 


Brunsden, 


Harkness, 


Martini, 


Smith (Calgary 


Cadieu, 


Henderson, 


Matthews, 


South), 


Campbell 


Hicks, 


Milligan, 


Smith (Lincoln), 


(Lambton-Kent), 


Horner (Acadia), 


Monteith (Perth), 


Smith (Simcoe 


Cardiff, 


Horner 


Monteith (Verdun), 


North), 


Casselman (Mrs.), 


(Jasper-Edson), 


Montgomery, 


Southam, 


Charlton, 


Horner 


More, 


Speakman, 


Chatterton, 


(The Battlefords), 


Morissette, 


Spencer, 


Churchill, 


Howe, 


Morris, 


Starr, 


Clancy, 


Jones, 


Morton, 


Stefanson, 


Coates, 


Jorgenson, 


Muir (Cape 


Stewart, 


Cooper, 


Jung, 


Breton North 


Thomas, 


Creaghan, 


Kennedy, 


and Victoria), 


Thrasher, 


Crouse, 


Kindt, 


Muir (Lisgar), 


Tremblay, 


Danforth, 


Knowles, 


Murphy, 


Valade, 


Dinsdale, 


Korchinski, 


Nasserden, 


Villeneuve, 


Dorion, 


Lafreniere, 


Nesbitt, 


Vivian, 


Drysdale, 


Lahaye, 


Nielsen, 


Walker, 


Dubois, 


Lambert, 


Noble, 


Webb, 


English, 


Legere, 


Nowlan, 


Weichel, 


Fairclough (Mrs.), 


Letourneau, 


Nugent, 


Winkler— 144. 


Fairfield, 


Macdonald (Mrs.), 


O'Hurley, 





Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mrs. Fairclough, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Return 
of Permits issued under authority of section 8 of the Immigration Act for 
the period January 1 to December 31, 1961, pursuant to section 8(5) of the 
said Act, chapter 325, R.S.C., 1952. 

By Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — 
Report on the Operations of the Municipal Improvements Assistance Act for 
the year ended December 31, 1961, pursuant to section 11 of the said Act, 
chapter 183, R.S.C., 1952. 



26209-7— \\ 



36 HOUSE OF COMMONS 10 ELIZABETH II 

By unanimous consent at 9.58 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the 
House without question put, until tomorrow at 11.00 o'clock a.m. pursuant to 
Standing Order 2(1). 



A.D. 1962 FRIDAY, 26th JANUARY 37 

No. 7 

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OF THE 

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OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, FRIDAY, 26th JANUARY, 1962. 



11.00 o'clock a.m. 

Prayers. 

Mr. Matthews, seconded by Mr. Browne (Vancouver-Kings way), by leave 
of the House, introduced Bill C-46, An Act to amend the Representation Act, 
which was read the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next 
sitting of the House. 



Mr. Fisher, seconded by Mr. Howard, by leave of the House, introduced 
Bill C-47, An Act to amend the British North America Acts, 1867 to 1960, 
with respect to the Readjustment of Representation in the House of Commons, 
which was read the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next 
sitting of the House. 



By unanimous consent, it was ordered that the exchange of correspondence 
between the federal Minister of Finance and the Premier of British Columbia 
during the period from November 27, 1961, to January 5, 1962, concerning 
the Columbia River Power Project, be printed as an Appendix to this day's 
Hansard. 



The House resolved itself into Committee of Supply, and progress having 
been made and reported, the Committee obtained leave to sit again at the 
next sitting of the House. 



38 HOUSE OF COMMONS 10 ELIZABETH H 

(At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Private Members' Business was called pursuant 
to Standing Order 15(3) as provisionally amended) 

(Public Bills) 

The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-2, An Act to 
provide for the Establishment of a Hospital Sweepstakes Board; 

Mr. Browne (Vancouver-Kings way), seconded by Mr. Drysdale, moved, 
— That the said bill be now read a second time. 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



At six o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until Monday next at 2.30 o'clock p.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



A.D. 1962 MONDAY, 29th JANUARY 



No. 8 



JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, MONDAY, 29th JANUARY, 1962. 

2.30 o'clock p.m. 



Prayers. 



Mr. Balcer, seconded by Mr. Churchill, by leave of the House, introduced 
Bill C-48, An Act to amend An Act respecting the Construction of a line of 
railway by Canadian National Railway Company from Optic Lake to Chisel 
Lake, and the Purchase by Canadian National Railway Company from The 
International Nickel Company of Canada, Limited, of a line of railway from 
Sipiwesk to a point on Burntwood River near Mystery Lake, all in the Province 
of Manitoba, which was read the first time and ordered for a second reading 
at the next sitting of the House. 



Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), seconded by Mr. Churchill, by leave of the 
House, introduced Bill C-49, An Act to amend the Small Businesses Loans Act, 
which was read the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next 
sitting of the House. 



Mr. Fulton for Mr. Monteith (Perth), seconded by Mr. Churchill, moved, — 
That the House do go into Committee of the Whole at its next sitting to 
consider the following proposed resolution which has been recommended 
to the House by His Excellency: — 

That it is expedient to introduce a measure to amend the Old Age Security 
Act to increase the amount of monthly pension payable thereunder to sixty- 
five dollars per month. 

Resolved, — That the House do go into Committee of the Whole at its next 
sitting to consider the said proposed resolution. 



40 HOUSE OF COMMONS 10 ELIZABETH II 

Mr. Fulton for Mr. Monteith (Perth), seconded by Mr. Churchill, moved, 
— That the House do go into Committee of the Whole at its next sitting to 
consider the following proposed resolution which has been recommended to 
the House by His Excellency: — 

That it is expedient to introduce a measure to amend the Old Age Assistance 
Act to increase to sixty-five dollars per month the maximum amount of 
assistance in respect of which payments may be made to the provinces under 
the provisions of that Act, and to increase the total amount of allowable 
income, inclusive of assistance, by one hundred and eighty dollars a year 
in the case of an unmarried person and three hundred and sixty dollars a 
year in the case of a married person. 

Resolved, — That the House do go into Committee of the Whole at its 
next sitting to consider the said proposed resolution. 



Mr. Fulton for Mr. Monteith (Perth), seconded by Mr. Churchill, moved, 
— That the House do go into Committee of the Whole at its next sitting to 
consider the following proposed resolution which has been recommended to 
the House by His Excellency: — 

That it is expedient to introduce a measure to amend the Blind Persons 
Act to increase to sixty-five dollars per month the maximum amount of 
allowance in respect of which payments may be made to the provinces under 
the provisions of that Act, and to increase the total amount of allowable 
income, inclusive of allowance, by one hundred and eighty dollars a year 
in the case of an unmarried person and three hundred and sixty dollars a 
year in the case of a married person. 

Resolved, — That the House do go into Committee of the Whole at its next 
sitting to consider the said proposed resolution. 



Mr. Fulton for Mr. Monteith (Perth), seconded by Mr. Churchill, moved, 
— That the House do go into Committee of the Whole at its next sitting to 
consider the following proposed resolution which has been recommended to 
the House by His Excellency: — 

That it is expedient to introduce a measure to amend the Disabled Persons 
Act to increase to sixty-five dollars per month the maximum amount of 
allowance in respect of which payments may be made to the provinces under 
the provisions of that Act, and to increase the total amount of allowable 
income, inclusive of allowance, by one hundred and eighty dollars a year in 
the case of an unmarried person and three hundred and sixty dollars a year 
in the case of a married person. 

Resolved, — That the House do go into Committee of the Whole at its next 
sitting to consider the said proposed resolution. 



Mr. Balcer, seconded by Mr. Churchill, moved, — That the House do go 
into Committee of the Whole at its next sitting to consider the following 
proposed resolution which has been recommended to the House by 
His Excellency: — 

That it is expedient to introduce a measure to authorize and to provide 
for the construction of a line of railway in the Province of Alberta by Cana- 
dian National Railway Company from Whitecourt for a distance of approxi- 
mately 23.2 miles to the property of Pan American Petroleum Corporation, 
at a total estimated expenditure of $2,300,000, not to be exceeded by more 



A.D. 1962 MONDAY, 29th JANUARY 41 

than fifteen per cent; to authorize the issue by the said Railway Company 
of securities that may be guaranteed by Her Majesty in right of Canada to 
finance the construction of the said line; and in order that the said Railway 
Company may forthwith proceed with the construction of the said line of 
railway, to authorize temporary loans to the said Railway Company out of 
the Consolidated Revenue Fund upon terms and conditions prescribed by 
the Governor in Council and secured by securities of the said Railway 
Company. 

Resolved, — That the House do go into Committee of the Whole at its next 
sitting to consider the said proposed resolution. 



Mr. Balcer, seconded by Mr. Churchill, moved, — That the House do go 
into Committee of the Whole at its next sitting to consider the following 
proposed resolution which has been recommended to the House by His 
Excellency: — 

That it is expedient to introduce a measure to amend the St. Lawrence 
Seaway Authority Act to provide that the Authority, with the approval of 
the Governor in Council, may from time to time borrow money from Her 
Majesty or otherwise to an aggregate that shall not at any time exceed 
$345,000,000.00 in lieu of $335,000,000.00 which it is already authorized to 
borrow by section 13 of the Act. 

Resolved, — That the House do go into Committee of the Whole at its next 
sitting to consider the said proposed resolution. 



The following Question was made an Order for Return under the provisions 
of Standing Order 39(4) as provisionally amended: 

Question No. 35, by Mr. Pitman, — Order of the House for a Return 
showing: 1. In the recent "Tocsin B" exercise held in Canada, how many bombs 
were dropped in the simulated attack, and what was the total megatonage of 
these bombs? 

2. How many bombs were of approximately (a) 1-5 megatons (b) 5-10 
megatons (c) 10-20 megatons (d) 20-30 megatons (e) 30-40 megatons (/) 40- 
50 megatons (g) over 50 megatons? 

3. What centres in Canada were supposedly hit by bombs? 

4. What were the estimated casualties in each? 

5. What was the extent of the simulated attack in terms of (a) ICBMs fired 
(b) ICBMs destroyed before reaching their targets (c) missiles fired from sub- 
marines (d) missiles fired from submarines destroyed before reaching their 
targets (e) bombers attacking (/) bombers destroyed? 

6. What was the estimated effect in terms of immediate fall-out in Canada 
from bombs and missiles (a) landing in the United States of America (b) land- 
ing off target in Canada (because of our defences, etc.)? 



The House resolved itself again into Committee of Supply; 

And the House continuing in Committee; 

At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker took the Chair. 



42 HOUSE OF COMMONS 10 ELIZABETH II 

(Private Members' Business was called pursuant to Standing Order 15(3) as 

provisionally amended) 

(Notices of Motions) 

Items numbered 1 and 2, having been severally called for the first time, 
were allowed to stand. 



Mr. Pigeon, seconded by Mr. Belzile, moved, — That a special joint com- 
mittee of both Houses of Parliament be appointed to consider ways and means 
of giving Canada a distinctive flag and an official national anthem; 

That, notwithstanding standing order 67, the said committee, on the part of 
this House, shall consist of twenty-five Members, to be named at a later date, 
and that the quorum shall be as ordered by the said committee; 

That the said committee be empowered to hear in this connection the views 
of Canadian organizations, public bodies and private citizens; to send for 
persons, papers and records; to sit while the House is sitting; to report from 
time to time; and to print such papers and evidence from day to day as may be 
ordered by it and that standing order 66 be suspended in relation thereto; and 

That a message be sent to the Senate requesting Their Honours to unite 
with this House for the above purpose and, if the Senate deems advisable, to 
appoint some of its members to act on the said committee. — (Notice of Motion 
No. 3). 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



The Committee of Supply resumed, and progress having been made and 
reported, the Committee obtained leave to sit again at the next sitting of the 
House. 



At ten o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until tomorrow at 2.30 o'clock p.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



A.D. 1962 TUESDAY, 30th JANUARY 43 

No. 9 

JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, TUESDAY, 30th JANUARY, 1962. 

2.30 o'clock p.m. 



Prayers. 



By unanimous consent, it was ordered that the hour from 8.00 to 9.00 
p.m. be substituted for the hour from 5.00 to 6.00 p.m. for the consideration 
of Private Members' Business later this day. 



The House resolved itself again into Committee of Supply; 
And the House continuing in Committee; 



At 6.00 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker took the Chair, and left it, to resume the 
same at 8.00 o'clock p.m. 

8.00 o'clock p.m. 

(Private Members' Business under Standing Order 15(3) as provisionally 
amended was called pursuant to Special Order made this day) 

(Public Bills) 

The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-3, An Act to 
amend the Coastal Fisheries Protection Act (Twelve Mile Fishing Zone); 

Mr. Howard, seconded by Mr. Martin (Timmins), moved, — That the said 
bill be now read a second time. 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



44 HOUSE OF COMMONS 10 ELIZABETH II 

The Committee of Supply resumed. 

(In the Committee) 
The following resolutions were adopted: 

FURTHER SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES (2), 1961-62 

AGRICULTURE 
Production and Marketing Branch 

611 Payments to western grain producers to be distributed 

on the following basis, namely, $1.00 per cultivated 
acre up to a maximum of 200 acres per farm in 
accordance with regulations of the Governor in 
Council $ 42,000,000 00 

FISHERIES 
Special 

612 Contribution towards a special Newfoundland works 

program for fishing settlements that experienced in- 
come reduction resulting from decreased catches . . 300,000 00 

Resolutions to be reported. 



The said resolutions were reported and concurred in, and the Committee 
of Supply obtained leave to sit again at the next sitting of the House. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Balcer, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Report of work 
performed and expenditures made as of December 31, 1961, under authority 
of chapter 49, Statutes of Canada, 1953-54, respecting the construction by 
the Canadian National Railway Company of branch lines from St. Felicien 
to Cache Lake, Cache Lake to Beattyville, and Cache Lake to Chibougamau, 
in the Province of Quebec, pursuant to section 8 of the said Act. 

By Mr. Balcer, — Report of work performed and expenditures made as of 
December 31, 1961, together with the estimated expenditures for 1962, under 
authority of chapter 13, Statutes of Canada, 1957-58, respecting the construc- 
tion of a line of railway by Canadian National Railway Company from Optic 
Lake to Chisel Lake, and the purchase by Canadian National Railway Company 
from The International Nickel Company of Canada, Limited, of a line of 
railway from Sipiwesk to a point on Burntwood River near Mystery Lake, 
all in the Province of Manitoba, pursuant to section 11 of the said Act. 

By Mr. Balcer, — Report of work performed and expenditures made as of 
December 31, 1961, together with estimated expenditures for 1962, under 
authority of chapter 56, Statutes of Canada, 1960-61, respecting the construc- 
tion by the Canadian National Railway Company, of a line of railway from 
a point near Grimshaw, in the Province of Alberta, in a northerly direction 
to Great Slave Lake in the Northwest Territories, pursuant to section 9 of the 
said Act. 



A.D. 1962 TUESDAY, 30th JANUARY 45 

At 10.03 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until tomorrow at 2.30 o'clock p.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



A.D. 1962 WEDNESDAY, 31st JANUARY 47 

No. 10 

JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, WEDNESDAY, 31st JANUARY, 1962. 



2.30 o'clock p.m. 

Prayers. 

The following Question was made an Order for Return under the provi- 
sions of Standing Order 39(4) as provisionally amended: 

* Question No. 72, by Mr. Matheson, — Order of the House for a Return 
showing: 1. What civilian and military appointments, with dates, have been 
held by the C. M. Drury referred to by the Prime Minister on January 23, 
1962? 

2. What decorations, if any, have been conferred upon Drury? 

3. Has this government honoured Drury by any appointment? 



On motion of Mr. Cardin for Mr. Chevrier, seconded by Mr. Pickersgill, 
it was ordered, — That an humble Address be presented to His Excellency pray- 
ing that he will cause to be laid before this House a copy of all correspondence 
between the Prime Minister of Canada and the Premier of the Province of 
Quebec concerning University grants since January 1, 1961. — (Notice of Motion 
for the Production of Papers No. 1). 



On motion of Mr. Howard, seconded by Mr. Herridge, it was ordered, — 
That an humble Address be presented to His Excellency praying that he 
will cause to be laid before this House a copy of all correspondence, telegrams, 
and other documents exchanged between the federal government and any other 
government or person since January 1, 1956, and dealing with a road connec- 
tion between the Indian reserve of Kitamaat and the Municipality of Kitimat. 
— (Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers No. 3). 



48 HOUSE OF COMMONS 10 ELIZABETH II 

On motion of Mr. Howard, seconded by Mr. Herridge, it was ordered, — 
That an humble Address be presented to His Excellency praying that he 
will cause to be laid before this House a copy of all correspondence, telegrams, 
and other documents exchanged between a Mrs. Bernadette Grey of Fort 
Fraser, B.C., and the Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs or any official 
of the Indian Affairs Branch since January 1, 1960, regarding Indian handicrafts 
or imitation Indian handicrafts imported from Japan. — (Notice of Motion for 
the Production of Papers No. 4). 



Notices of Motions for the Production of Papers (Nos. 2, 5, and 6), having 
been called, were allowed to stand at the request of the government. 



The House resolved itself again into Committee of Supply, and progress 
having been made and reported, the Committee obtained leave to sit again 
at the next sitting of the House. 



{At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Private Members' Business was called pursuant to 
Standing Order 15(3) as provisionally amended) 

(Notices of Motions) 

Mr. Peters, seconded by Mr. Herridge, moved, — That, in the opinion of 
this House, the government should give immediate consideration to the 
advisability of taking the appropriate steps necessary for the early establish- 
ment of a National Power Grid which would be utilized to develop Canadian 
industry and provide employment opportunities through development of all 
natural power resources. And that the government should consider providing 
the necessary research and technical study and the calling at the earliest 
possible date of a Dominion-Provincial conference to implement the National 
Power Grid authority. — (Notice of Motion No. 1). 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Diefenbaker, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Statutory 
Orders and Regulations published in the Canada Gazette, Part II, of Wednesday, 
January 10 and 24, 1962, pursuant to section 7 of the Regulations Act, chapter 
235, R.S.C., 1952. (English and French). 

By Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, 
by command of His Excellency the Governor-General, — Public Accounts of 
Canada for the year ended March 31, 1961, pursuant to section 64(1) of the 
Financial Administration Act, chapter 116, R.S.C., 1952, (English and French), 
in three volumes, as follows: 

Volume I — Summary Report and Financial Statements; 

Volume II — Details of Expenditures and Revenues; and 

Volume III — Financial Statements of Crown Corporations and Auditors' 
Reports thereon. 



A.D. 1962 WEDNESDAY, 31st JANUARY 49 

By Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), — Report of the Auditor- General to the House 
of Commons for the year ended March 31, 1961, pursuant to section 70(2) 
of the Financial Administration Act, chapter 116, R.S.C., 1952. (English and 
French). 

By Mr. Walker, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Second Revised 
Capital Budget of Central Mortgage and Housing Corporation for the year 
ended December 31, 1961, pursuant to section 80(2) of the Financial 
Administration Act, chapter 116, R.S.C., 1952. 



At 6.03 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until tomorrow at 2.30 o'clock p.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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No. 11 

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OF THE 

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OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, THURSDAY, 1st FEBRUARY, 1962. 

2.30 o'clock p.m. 



Prayers. 



The House resolved itself again into Committee of Supply; 
And the House continuing in Committee; 

At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker took the Chair. 

(Private Members' Business was called pursuant to Standing Order 15(3) 
as provisionally amended) 

(Public Bills) 

Order No. 1, having been called, was allowed to stand at the request of 
the government. 



The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-5, An Act to amend 
the Industrial Relations and Disputes Investigation Act; 

Mr. Howard, seconded by Mr. Martin (Timmins), moved, — That the said 
bill be now read a second time. 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



The Committee of Supply resumed, and progress having been made and 
reported, the Committee obtained leave to sit again at the next sitting of the 
House. 



52 HOUSE OF COMMONS 10 ELIZABETH II 

Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Green, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Copies of 
Diplomatic Instruments (English and French) as follows: 

Exchange of Notes between Canada and the United States of America 
concerning the Disposal of excess United States Property in Canada. Signed 
at Ottawa August 28 and September 1, 1961. In force September 1, 1961. 

Arrangement between Canada and Japan regarding Settlement of certain 
Canadian Claims. Signed at Tokyo September 5, 1961. In force September 5, 
1961. 

Exchange of Notes between Canada and the United States of America 
concerning the addition of Cape Dyer to the Annex to the Agreement of May 
1, 1959, relating to Short-Range Tactical Air Navigation (TACAN) Facilities 
in Canada. Signed at Ottawa September 19 and 23, 1961. In force September 
23, 1961. 

Exchange of Notes between Canada and the United States of America 
concerning Cost- Sharing and related Arrangements with respect to Planned 
Improvements in the Continental Air Defence System (with Annex). Signed 
at Ottawa September 27, 1961. In force September 27, 1961. 

Exchange of Notes between Canada and the United States of America 
to amend the Notes of November 12, 1953, concerning Establishment of a 
Joint Canada-United States of America Committee on Trade and Economic 
Affairs. Signed at Washington October 2, 1961. In force October 2, 1961. 

Arrangement regarding International Trade in Cotton Textiles. Done at 
Geneva July 21, 1961. Accepted by Canada September 22, 1961. In force 
October 1, 1961. 

Exchange of Notes between Canada and the United States of America 
concerning Dredging in the Wolfe Island Cut to improve an existing Shipping 
Channel. Signed at Ottawa October 17, 1961. In force October 17, 1961. 

Exchange of Notes between Canada and the United States of America 
concerning Dredging in Pelee Passage at the western end of Lake Erie. Signed 
at Ottawa June 8, 1959, and October 17, 1961. In force October 17, 1961. 

Exchange of Notes between Canada and Switzerland bringing into force 
the Agreement for Air Services between the two countries signed at Berne 
January 10, 1958. Signed at Ottawa November 9, 1961. In force November 9, 
1961. 

Exchange of Notes between Canada and Venezuela constituting an Agree- 
ment permitting Amateur Radio Stations of Canada and Venezuela to exchange 
Messages or other Communications from or to Third Parties. Signed at 
Caracas November 22, 1961. In force November 22, 1961. 

Air Transport Agreement between Canada and the United Mexican States. 
Signed at Mexico December 21, 1961. Provisionally in force December 21, 
1961. 



At ten o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until tomorrow at 11.00 o'clock a.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



A.D. 1962 FRIDAY, 2nd FEBRUARY 53 

No. 12 

JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, FRIDAY, 2nd FEBRUARY, 1962. 



11.00 o'clock a.m. 
Prayers. 

Mr. Wratten, seconded by Mr. Knowles, by leave of the House, introduced 
Bill C-50, An Act respecting Sir John A. Macdonald Day, which was read 
the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House. 

The House resolved itself again into Committee of Supply. 

(In the Committee) 
The following resolutions were adopted: 

FURTHER SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES (2), 1961-62 

LABOUR 

A — Department 

Special Services 

613 Special Services Branch including the promotion of a 
program for combatting seasonal unemployment, the 
organization and use of workers for farming and 
related industries and assistance to the Provinces 
under agreements entered into with the Provinces by 
the Minister of Labour with the approval of the 
Governor in Council — Further amount required . . . . $ 90,000 00 



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614 Payments in accordance with terms and conditions ap- 
proved by the Governor in Council to Provinces and 
in respect of Indian Bands under the Municipal Winter 
Works Incentive Program during the 1961-62 and 
1962-63 fiscal years of amounts not exceeding one- 
half of the cost of labour incurred in the period from 
the 15th day of October, 1961 to such day in the fiscal 
year 1962-63 as may be determined by the Governor 
in Council; and to authorize payments in those fiscal 
years to Provinces in respect of previous Municipal 
Winter Works Incentive Programs in accordance with 
terms and conditions approved by the Governor in 
Council 40,000,000 00 

Resolutions to be reported. 



The said resolutions were reported and concurred in, and the Committee 
of Supply obtained leave to sit again at the next sitting of the House. 



The House resolved itself into Committee of Ways and Means. 

(In the Committee) 

The following resolution was adopted: 

Resolved, — That towards making good the Supply granted to Her Majesty 
on account of certain expenses of the public service for the fiscal year ending 
March 31st, 1962, the sum of $82,390,000.00 be granted out of the Consolidated 
Revenue Fund of Canada. 

Resolution to be reported. 



The said resolution was reported and concurred in, and the Committee of 
Ways and Means obtained leave to sit again at the next sitting of the House. 



Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), seconded by Mr. Hamilton (Notre-Dame-de- 
Grace), by leave of the House, presented Bill C-51, An Act for granting to 
Her Majesty certain sums of money for the public service for the financial 
year ending the 31st March, 1962, which was read the first time. 

By unanimous consent, the said bill was read the second time, considered 
in Committee of the Whole, reported without amendment, read the third time 
and passed. 



(At 5.00 o'clock 'p.m., Private Members' Business was called pursuant to 
Standing Order 15(3) as provisionally amended) 



(Public Bills) 

th 
the Canadian Bill of Rights; 



The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-4, An Act to amend 



A.D. 1962 FRIDAY, 2nd FEBRUARY 55 

Mr. Pickersgill, seconded by Mr. Hellyer, moved, — That the said bill be 
now read a second time. 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following paper having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
was laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — 
Report of the Superintendent of Insurance for Canada — Small Loans Com- 
panies and Money-Lenders licensed under the Small Loans Act, for the year 
ended December 31, 1960. 



At 6.03 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until Monday next at 2.30 o'clock p.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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No. 13 

JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, MONDAY, 5th FEBRUARY, 1962. 

2.30 o'clock p.m. 



Prayers. 



Three hundred and sixty petitions for Private Bills were presented in 
accordance with Standing Order 70(1). 



Mr. Martin (Essex East), seconded by Mr. Pickersgill, by leave of the 
House, introduced Bill C-52, An Act to amend the Expropriation Act, which 
was read the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting 
of the House. 



Mr. Martin (Essex East), seconded by Mr. Pickersgill, by leave of the 
House, introduced Bill C-53, An Act to amend the War Measures Act, which 
was read the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting 
of the House. 



The following Questions were made Orders for Returns under the provi- 
sions of Standing Order 39(4) as provisionally amended: 

Question No. 13, by Mr. Argue, — Order of the House for a Return 
showing: 1. Has the government had any discussions with Dr. Norman Z. Alcock 
concerning the formation of a Canadian Peace Research Institute? 

2. If so, did Dr. Alcock make any request for aid? 

3. If so, has any decision been made in this regard? 

4. If so, what is the nature of the decision? 

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* Question No. 27, by Mr. Pitman, — Order of the House for a Return 
showing: 1. How many of the men who (a) started (b) completed or (c) were 
rejected for the first Survival Training Course, were unemployed? 

2. How many of the men who (a) started (b) completed or (c) were 
rejected for the first Survival Training Course, were on municipal welfare? 

3. How many of the men who (a) started (b) completed or (c) were 
rejected for the first Survival Training Course, were married? 

4. How many of those who were married and completed the Course were 
also unemployed? 

5. How many of the men who completed the first Survival Training Course 
have been recruited into (a) militia (b) regular army? 

Question No. 29, by Miss LaMarsh, — Order of the House for a Return 
showing: 1. Was any land in the vicinity of Bank Street and Riverside Drive, 
Ottawa (lots 18, 19 and 20, Junction Gore, Gloucester Township), sold by the 
Crown or Crown Assets Disposal Corporation since January 1, 1959? 

2. If so, what quantity, at what price, and to whom? 

3. Was the land advertised for sale and, if so, through what media? 

4. By what method was this land sold? 

* Question No. 31, by Mr. Robichaud, — Order of the House for a Return 
showing: 1. Has the Government of Canada received any representations that it 
use its good offices to ensure that A. V. Roe diversify and expand their steel 
operations in the City of Sydney? 

2. If so, has the government taken any action on this request? 



Question No. 65, by Mr. Regier, — Order of the House for a Return show- 
ing: 1. Is a certain Mr. Godfrey living in or about Vancouver in the employ 
of either the Department of Justice or the Department of Citizenship and 
Immigration? 

2. If so, what are his particular responsibilities? 



Question No. 66, by Mr. Regier, — Order of the House for a Return show- 
ing: 1. What are the names of each of the ships and dredges being operated 
by the Department of Public Works in British Columbia? 

2. On which of these are meals supplied to the employees? 

3. How many men are usually employed on each of these vessels? 

4. What was the cost of food purchased for the men on each of these 
vessels in the latest calendar or fiscal year for which statistics are available? 

5. When was the last audit or inspection made of such food purchases? 

6. What happens to food purchased for week-end meals when the em- 
ployees are off the vessel? 

7. Who are the captains or masters on each of these vessels? 

8. Do any of these named individuals own a grocery store selling food 
supplies to the Government of Canada? 



A.D. 1962 MONDAY, 5th FEBRUARY 59 

9. What, if any, irregularities in regard to the use and purchasing of 
food supplies referred to above have been discovered within a period of the 
last five years, and, if there were irregularities found, what action has been 
taken? 

10. When last was there an investigation made as to the quality of meals 
served to the employees? 

11. From what suppliers, and the amount in each case, was food purchased 
for the C.G.S. Essington for the latest year of which records are available, 
and who are the owners of the business firms involved? 

12. Are any of these owners employed by the Government of Canada? 

13. On which of the above vessels is the practice followed of having the 
majority of employees away from the vessel on week-ends? 

* Question No. 75, by Mr. Howard, — Order of the House for a Return show- 
ing: 1. Since December 1, 1961, has any vehicle owned by the government 
or any department, agency, or branch thereof crossed any picket line in 
British Columbia established by the Retail, Wholesale and Department Store 
Union (AFL-CIO/CLC) against Taylor, Pearson and Carson Corporation; and, 
if so, was this done with the knowledge and consent of the government, or 
of the department, agency or branch involved? 

2. Are any steps being taken to prevent a recurrence of this situation; 
and, if so, what are they? 

Question No. 86, by Mr. Martel, — Order of the House for a Return show- 
ing: 1. Have works near Duparquet, in Northwestern Quebec, at Hebecourt, 
Duparquet and Abitibi Lakes or thereabout, ever been carried out by the 
federal government from 1949 to 1957? 

2. If so, (a) by whom were such works requested, and by whom were 
they recommended to the federal government then in office (b) who was the 
foreman in charge of each particular project (c) what was the total cost of 
each project (d) what wages were paid to each foreman and other persons 
employed at such works (e) who were the suppliers of materials, equipment, 
or other services of any kind at each place, and what amount was paid to 
each supplier? 

Question No. 87, by Mr. Martel, — Order of the House for a Return show- 
ing: 1. Have cleaning operations, on the Senneville River and the Small Senne- 
ville River, in the counties of Villeneuve and Chapleau, ever been carried 
out by the federal government between 1949 and 1957? 

2. If so, (a) by whom were such cleaning operations requested, and by 
whom were they recommended to the federal government then in office (b) 
who was the foreman in charge of each particular project (c) what was the 
total cost of each project (d) what wages were paid to each foreman and 
other persons employed at such works (e) who were the suppliers of materials, 
equipment, or other services of any kind at each place, and what amount 
was paid to each supplier? 

Question No. 88, by Mr. Martel, — Order of the House for a Return show- 
ing: 1. Has construction of a wharf at Macamic Lake, in the county of 
Chapleau, or cleaning operations near Macamic Lake, or in the vicinity of 
the town of Macamic and the municipality of Royal-Roussillon, ever been 
carried out by the federal government between 1949 and 1957? 

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60 HOUSE OF COMMONS 10 ELIZABETH II 

2. If so, (a) by whom were such works requested, and by whom were 
they recommended to the federal government then in office (b) who was 
the foreman in charge of each particular project (c) what was the total cost 
of each project (d) what wages were paid to each foreman and other persons 
employed at such works (e) who were the suppliers of materials, equipment, 
or other services of any kind at each place, and what amount was paid to 
each supplier? 



* Question No. 90, by Mr. Herridge, — Order of the House for a Return show- 
ing: 1. Who initiated the Atlantic Citizens Convention held in Paris in 
January? 

2. What was the purpose of this Convention? 

3. Who appointed the members of the Canadian delegation? 

4. What were their names and whom did they represent? 

5. How was this delegation financed? 

6. What was the total cost to the Government of Canada, if any? 

7. What were the recommendations of the Convention? 

8. What action does the Canadian Government intend to take with respect 
to these recommendations? 



Question No. 101, by Mr. Racine, — Order of the House for a Return show- 
ing: 1. Has the Government of the Province of Quebec signed any agreements 
since June 30, 1958, concerning joint projects with respect to forests, with 
any of the federal Departments of Forestry, Agriculture, or Northern Affairs 
and National Resources? 

2. If so, which joint projects are involved, and what amounts have been 
paid to the Province? 



The House resolved itself into Committee of the Whole to consider a 
certain proposed resolution to amend the Old Age Security Act; 

And the House continuing in Committee; 

At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker took the Chair. 



(Private Members' Business was called pursuant to Standing Order 15(3) as 

provisionally amended) 

(Notices of Motions) 

Mr. Taylor, seconded by Mr. Broome, moved, — That in the opinion of 
this House, the government should consider the advisability of a matching 
centennial grant of a sufficient amount for the construction of a coliseum with 
at least 14,000 seats in Vancouver to better serve British Columbia, as an 
international trade, convention, tourist and business centre. — (Notice of Motion 
No. 2). 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



A.D. 1962 MONDAY, 5th FEBRUARY 61 

The House resumed consideration in Committee of the Whole of a certain 
proposed resolution to amend the Old Age Security Act. 

(In the Committee) 

The following resolution was adopted: 

Resolved, — That it is expedient to introduce a measure to amend the Old 
Age Security Act to increase the amount of monthly pension payable there- 
under to sixty-five dollars per month. 

Resolution to be reported. 



The said resolution was reported and concurred in. 



Mr. Monteith (Perth), seconded by Mr. Fulton, by leave of the House, 
presented Bill C-54, An Act to amend the Old Age Security Act, which was 
read the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the 
House. 



The House resolved itself into Committee of the Whole to consider a 
certain proposed resolution to amend the Old Age Assistance Act, and progress 
having been made and reported, the Committee obtained leave to consider it 
again at the next sitting of the House. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Balcer, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, for Mr. Dorion, — 
Return to an Address, dated January 31, 1962, to His Excellency the Governor- 
General (Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers No. 4), for a copy 
of all correspondence, telegrams, and other documents exchanged between a 
Mrs. Bernadette Grey of Fort Fraser, B.C., and the Superintendent- General 
of Indian Affairs or any official of the Indian Affairs Branch since January 1, 
1960, regarding Indian handicrafts or imitation Indian handicrafts imported 
from Japan. 

By Mr. Hees, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Order in Council 
P.C. 1962-123, dated January 30, 1962, authorizing, under section 21a of the 
Export Credits Insurance Act, long-term financing by the Export Credits 
Insurance Corporation for the sale by RCA Victor Company, Ltd., Montreal, 
of telecommunications equipment and related services to the Government of 
the Republic of Liberia, pursuant to section 21b of the said Act, chapter 105, 
R.S.C., 1952, as amended 1960-61. 

By Mr. Jorgenson, Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Agri- 
culture, — Report on Activities under the Prairie Farm Assistance Act for the 
Crop Year ended July 31, 1961, pursuant to section 12 of the said Act, chapter 
213, R.S.C., 1952. (French). 



62 HOUSE OF COMMONS 10 ELIZABETH II 

At ten o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until tomorrow at 2.30 o'clock p.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



A.D. 1962 TUESDAY, 6th FEBRUARY 63 

No. 14 

JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, TUESDAY, 6th FEBRUARY, 1962. 

2.30 o'clock p.m. 



Prayers. 



Seven petitions for Private Bills were presented in accordance with 
Standing Order 70(1). 



Mr. Diefenbaker, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, laid before 
the House, — Exchange of Correspondence with certain Provinces on the 
proposed Amendment to the British North America Act in connection with 
Old Age Pensions. 

By unanimous consent, it was ordered that the said correspondence be 
printed as an Appendix to this day's Hansard. 



The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-54, An Act to 
amend the Old Age Security Act; 

Mr. Monteith (Perth), seconded by Mr. Fulton, moved, — That the said 
bill be now read a second time. 

And debate arising thereon; 



(At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Private Members' Business was called pursuant 
to Standing Order 15(3) as provisionally amended) 

(Public Bills) 

The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-6, An Act to 
amend the Interest Act (Finance Charges); 



64 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

Mr. Nasserden, seconded by Mr. Rapp, moved, — That the said bill be now 
read a second time. 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



Debate was resumed on the proposed motion of Mr. Monteith (Perth), 
seconded by Mr. Fulton, — That Bill C-54, An Act to amend the Old Age 
Security Act, be now read a second time. 

After further debate, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 

Accordingly, the said bill was read the second time, considered in Com- 
mittee of the Whole, reported without amendment, and ordered for a third 
reading at the next sitting of the House. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Flynn, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, by command 
of His Excellency the Governor- General, — Report of the Department of Mines 
and Technical Surveys for the year ended December 31, 1960, pursuant to 
section 10 of the Department of Mines and Technical Surveys Act, chapter 
73, R.S.C., 1952. (English and French). 

By Mr. Jorgenson, Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Agriculture, 
— Report of the Canadian Wheat Board for the Crop Year ended July 31, 
1961, certified by the Auditors, pursuant to section 7(2) of the Canadian 
Wheat Board Act, chapter 44, R.S.C., 1952. 

First Report of the Clerk of Petitions, pursuant to Standing Order 70(7), 
as follows: — 

The Clerk of Petitions has the honour to report that the petitions of the 
following for divorce Acts, presented on February 5 by Mr. McCleave, meet 
the requirements of Standing Order 70: 

Margaret Ellynore MacDougall Abbott, wife of Ernest Kitson Abbott of 
Montreal, Quebec. 

Dorothy Irene Marjorie Hunt Adams, wife of Merrill Karn Adams of St. 
Jean, Quebec. 

Demetre Almyriotis of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Evanthia Stamelos 
Almyriotis. 

Catherine Gerasimos Temponeras Andrulakis, wife of Miltiadis George 
Andrulakis of Montreal, Quebec. 

Betty Szlukier Ankhelyi, wife of Gyorgy (George) Ankhelyi of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Armando Argentini of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Angela Giacondi 
Argentini. 

Pearl Brown Arron, wife of Edward Arron of St. Laurent, Quebec. 

Juliana Magdelene Rothlaender Ashley, wife of Charles William Ashley of 
Montreal, Quebec. 



A.D. 1962 TUESDAY, 6th FEBRUARY 65 

Anne Marie Perrozzino Asselin, wife of Roger Asselin of Montreal, Quebec. 

Etienne Auclair of Otterburn Heights, Quebec, husband of Andree Dion 
Auclair. 

Sylvia Taliercio Aucoin, wife of John Charles Aucoin of Montreal, Quebec. 

Alphonse Audet of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Gracia Gagnon Audet. 

Florence Schnarch Babb, wife of Irving Babb of Montreal, Quebec. 

Sonja Swerzowa Bagry, wife of Ignaz Bagry of Montreal, Quebec. 

Alma Ivy Trineer Bankley, wife of Gordon Lloyd Bankley of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Walter Barber of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Mary Agnes Lacey-Barber. 

Edouard Joseph Armand Baril of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Marie 
Therese Bibiane Noel Baril. 

Iva Annett Baumgartner, wife of Peter Baumgartner of Montreal, Quebec. 

Catherine Marie MacDonald Beaton, wife of Arthur Francis Beaton of 
Montreal, Quebec. 

Marie Jeanne Dumont Beaulieu, wife of J. E. Roger Bernard Beaulieu of 
Montreal. 

Dorothy Hazel Neila Bell Beausoleil, wife of Joseph Albert William Beau- 
soleil of Montreal, Quebec. 

Percy Beauvais of St. Laurent, Quebec, husband of Mary Letitia McKenzie 
Beauvais. 

Paul-Aime Bedard of the Province of Quebec, husband of Jean Shirley 
Yvonne Carter Bedard. 

Jacqueline Dumontet Belanger, wife of Marcel Belanger of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Pardo Belpulso of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Rosa Ruta Belpulso. 

Margit Schlosszer Bene, wife of Janos Gabor Bene of Chibougamau, 
Quebec. 

Aranka Ilona Paris Berendy, wife of Bela Julius Berendy of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Magella Rheaume Bergeron, wife of Laureat Bergeron of Montreal, Quebec. 

Gladys Ethel Sarah Baker Bergeron, wife of Philip Joseph Bergeron of 
Montreal, Quebec. 

Guy Bertrand of St. Laurent, Quebec, husband of Colombe Grondin 
Bertrand. 

Guy Bertrand of Sherbrooke, Quebec, husband of Fabiola Mathurin 
Bertrand. 

Diane Lillian Kirkus Black, wife of Bruce Andrew Black of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Pamela Mcintosh Blair, wife of Alexander Wallace Anthony Blair of 
Montreal, Quebec. 

Joseph Jean-Paul Fernand Blanchette of St. Jerome, Quebec, husband of 
Marie Jeanne Charbonneau Blanchette. 

June Blickstead, wife of Ralph Blickstead of Montreal, Quebec. 

Kenneth Allen Blight of St. Eustache-sur-le-Lac, Quebec, husband of Iris 
Maureen Barnett Blight. 

Gizella Ethel Nagy Bogoly, wife of Louis Bogoly, Junior, of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

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Roland Boisvert of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Eileen Williams Boisvert. 

Simonne Michele Mona Routier Bouchard, wife of Jacques Bouchard of 
Montreal, Quebec. 

Joseph Idolard Bouchard of Nouvelle, Quebec, husband of Antoinette 
Babineau Bouchard. 

Jean-Robert Boucher of St. Laurent, Quebec, husband of Gisele Brise- 
bois Boucher. 

Joseph Leo Gerard Bougie of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Madeleine 
Theriault Bougie. 

Claire Detwiler Bradford, wife of Elwood Joseph Bradford of Beacons- 
field, Quebec. 

James Robert Breslin of Pierrefonds, Quebec, husband of Mary Marlene 
Leona Beaudoin Breslin. 

Michele Favreau Breuer, wife of Claude Luc Breuer of Montreal, Quebec. 

Klara Ary Brody, wife of Otto Brody of Montreal, Quebec. 

Edward Brown of Dorval, Quebec, husband of Ginette Cameron Brown. 

Elizabeth Helen Peto Brown, wife of Robert Morel Brown of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Wilma Gloria Hill Bryson, wife of Lloyd George Bryson of Lachute, 
Quebec. 

Gerhard Hermann Buchholz of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Ingrid 
Koenig Buchholz. 

Alexander Burke of Pointe aux Trembles, Quebec, husband of Emeran- 
tienne St-Pierre Burke. 

Olga Antonina Safian Burkousky, wife of Joseph Marion Burkousky of 
Lachine, Quebec. 

Lorraine Bastien Burt, wife of Harold Edmund Burt of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Bruce Reid Campbell of Westmount, Quebec, husband of June Ethel 
Phyllis Barton Campbell. 

Jeannette Tremblay Carignan, wife of Henri Carignan of Montreal, Quebec. 

Judith Elizabeth Stacey Caron, wife of Norman Michael Caron of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

John Gordon Carruthers of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Joan Elaine 
Beaudreau Carruthers. 

Nicholas Cimbru Chambers of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Germaine 
Leclerc Chambers. 

Robert Charles Chapman of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Mary Jane 
Griffin Chapman. 

Rosemary Beatrice Overett Clare, wife of Derek Clare of Outremont, 
Quebec. 

Alice Elizabeth Newman Clarke, wife of Warren Clarke of Ville LeMoyne, 
Quebec. 

Elizabeth Heather MacNicoll Clayton, wife of Peter Clayton of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Anita Duguay Cleri, wife of Vinicio Cleri of Montreal, Quebec. 

Vivian Marjery Singer Cohen, wife of Mortimer Cohen of Montreal, 
Quebec. 



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Joan Marjorie Gallant Collins, wife of John Walter Collins of Verdun, 
Quebec. 

Ann Marie Thibeau Cooke, wife of Kevin Patrick Cooke of the Province 
of Newfoundland. 

Margot Scott Bradley Connor, wife of David James Connor of the Town 
of Mount Royal, Quebec. 

Beverley Hayden Forman Crerar, wife of Colin Douglas Crerar of Beacons- 
field, Quebec. 

Josephine Mary Holmes Croll, wife of Donald Edmund Croll of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Edward Czerniak, of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Jeanne Charlebois 
Czerniak. 

Rose Marie Bohn Dalgleish, wife of Philip Francis Dalgleish of Dorval, 
Quebec. 

Marie Raymonde Violetta Douillard Dalpe, wife of Donald Dalpe of 
Drummondville, Quebec. 

Sylvia Lipson Dankner, wife of Philip Dankner of Montreal, Quebec. 

Florence Patricia Finucane Da Silva, wife of Aubrey Terrence Da Silva 
of Montreal, Quebec. 

Ruby Emma Clough Davies, wife of John Lewellyn Davies of Montreal 
West, Quebec. 

Joseph Fortin Decelles of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Simonne Letour- 
neau Decelles. 

Guiseppe de Cristofaro of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Brigide Roy de 
Cristofaro. 

Rose Mancuso Defosses, wife of Polydor (Paul) Defosses of the Province 
of Quebec. 

Elsie Jean Oakley Delisle, wife of Leo Roger Delisle of Montreal, Quebec. 

Alexandra Pantzaras Deliyannakis, wife of Nicolas Deliyannakis of Mont- 
real, Quebec. 

Gladys Jean Assaf Desjardins, wife of Joseph Julien Leopold Desjardins of 
Ste. Therese, Quebec. 

Hilda Copley Desjardins, wife of Joseph Real Robert Desjardins of Mont- 
real, Quebec. 

Margaret Joan Parkinson Digby, wife of George Arnold Digby of Ville 
St. Michel, Quebec. 

Patricia Beverley Lang Dimeo, wife of Alexander Hough Dimeo of 
Montreal West, Quebec. 

Jean Helen Wales Donnan, wife of James Stewart Donnan of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Brigitte Seidel Dophide, wife of Wilfrid Dophide of St. Laurent, Quebec. 

Marie Tarcile Rosalie Yvette Gratton Dorion, wife of Joseph Arthur Ovila 
Dorion of Montreal, Quebec. 

Edward Dorozowsky of Verdun, Quebec, husband of Tatiana Roxolana 
Diduch Dorozowsky. 

Louise Lamarre Doyle, wife of John Harold Doyle of Montreal, Quebec. 

Marie Claire Rollande Laporte Dubois, wife of Lorenzo Dubois of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Hazel Weir Durocher, wife of Georges Durocher of Montreal, Quebec. 

Rose Gratton Duval, wife of Aurele Duval of Montreal, Quebec. 

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William Rankin Edmondson, of the Town of Mount Royal, Quebec, husband 
of Marjorie Beryl Blodgett Edmondson. 

Joseph Arthur Norman William Edwards of Lasalle, Quebec, husband of 
Muriel Joyce Bray Edwards. 

Ruth Ilona Mickley Elkin, wife of Sidney Elkin of Montreal, Quebec. 

Verena Bachmann Elsener, wife of Josef Elsener of Montreal, Quebec. 

Joyce Ethel Martin Empey, wife of John Frankly n Empey of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Jean Alexandria MacPhail Etheridge, wife of Kenneth Charles Etheridge 
of St. Eustache-sur-le-Lac, Quebec. 

Dorothy Gladys Keane Faucher, wife of Alfred Faucher of Westmount, 
Quebec. 

John Faucher of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Marion Gardner Faucher. 

Marie Gertrude Helene Richer Flamme, wife of Christian Alain Flamme 
of Montreal, Quebec. 

Pauline Abrams Foster, wife of Alexander Foster of Ste. Agathe, Quebec. 

Mary Iris Neil Fournier, wife of Jean Jacques Fournier of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Alethea Arnold Fowler, wife of Irwin Fowler of Baldwin Mills, Quebec. 

Marie Marguerite Nicole Bisaillon Fraser, wife of Robert Fraser of 
Montreal, Quebec. 

Dorothy Minchinton Frederick, wife of Francis George Frederick, alias 
Frank Phillips of Montreal, Quebec. 

Thelma Schuker Freeman, wife of Reuben Freeman of Montreal, Quebec. 

Haia (Clara) Weissman Fuchsman, wife of Iosif (Josif) Fuchsman of 
Chateauguay, Quebec. 

Jeannine Fauteux Furoy, wife of Edward Furoy of Montreal, Quebec. 

Audrey Gertrude East Gallant, wife of Robert Ian Gallant of St. Laurent, 
Quebec. 

William Robert Galley of Verdun, Quebec, husband of Shelley Elizabeth 
Parsons Galley. 

Rose Marie Luci Gates, wife of John Earl Gates of Montreal, Quebec. 

Herve Gauthier of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Carmen Sicard Gauthier. 

Rosaire Gauthier of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Diane Auclair Gauthier. 

Josephine Isabella Irvine Geiger, wife of Eric A. Geiger of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Nancy Ruth Romaniuk Grabina, wife of Jerry Grabina of the Province of 
Quebec. 

Nicole Marie Pineau Geoffroy, wife of Bernard Marcel Geoffroy of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Therese Lambert Genest, wife of Claude Genest of Westmount, Quebec. 

Therese Harnois Geraldeau, wife of Richard Geraldeau of Verdun, Quebec. 

Marie Augustine Jeannette Rail Gibbs, wife of William David Gibbs of 
Montreal, Quebec. 

Mary Yvonne Agarand Giguere, wife of Claude Giguere of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Pauline Painchaud Gilker, wife of Richard Gilker of Montreal, Quebec. 

Kate Lester Gillman, wife of Saul Gillman of Montreal, Quebec. 



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Marie Emilia Rolande Bernier Gittens, wife of Kenneth Fitzgerald Gittens 
of Montreal, Quebec. 

Marie Yvonne Lucie Robillard Godard, wife of Joseph Arthur Jean Godard 
of Montreal, Quebec. 

Louis P. Goodis of Cote St. Luc, Quebec, husband of Rose Solomon Goodis. 

Lise Bergeron Goulet, wife of Jean Goulet of Montreal, Quebec. 

Gilles Graveline of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Marielle Demers Grave- 
line. 

Catherine Mildred Fogarty Gray, wife of George Robert Gray of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Elizabeth Boulay Gray, wife of Robert Gray of Montreal, Quebec. 

Edith Diane Shapiro Greenberg, wife of Seymour Bernard Greenberg of 
Montreal, Quebec. 

Marie Albert Greensell, wife of Remi Greensell of Montreal, Quebec. 

Joan Marjorie Baker Gregor-Pearse, wife of Reginald Clive Gregor- 
Pearse of Montreal, Quebec. 

Barbara Gladys George Gregory, wife of Marshall Donald Ward Gregory 
of Lake Selby, Quebec. 

Mary Noreen Smith Griffith, wife of Austin Frederic Griffith of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Olga Komretsky Hagg, wife of Frank Hagg of Montreal, Quebec. 

George Hann of Lewisporte, Newfoundland, husband of Lavinia Pearl 
Canning Hann. 

John Harman of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Ann Frogley Harman. 

Robert Harrison of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Rita Jeanette Nolan 
Harrison. 

Margaret Anne Honey Harvey, wife of Edmund Gifford Harvey of the 
Province of Quebec. 

Doris Sibyl Jane Godsell Hassall, wife of Frederick James Hassall of 
Verdun, Quebec. 

Rene Hebert of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Carmen Labrecque Hebert. 
Gerald William Henderson of Bristol, Quebec, husband of Eileen Elizabeth 
Laframboise Henderson. 

Abie alias Allan Herscovitch of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Fannie 
alias Fay Green Herscovitch. 

Ezreh Harry Herscovitch of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Lillian Lea Huss 
Herscovitch. 

Rae Yane Hershenkopf, wife of Harry Hershenkopf of Montreal, Quebec. 

Donald Edgar Hicks of Grand Falls, Newfoundland, husband of Frances 
Marie Benson Hicks. 

Germaine Marie Therese Dubeau Hinksman, wife of John Hugh Dodd 
Hinksman of St. Lambert, Quebec. 

Lise Lamer Hogue, wife of Alain Hogue of Montreal, Quebec. 

Felix Hollinger of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Adeline Ruskin Hollinger. 

Dorothy Doreen Bertram Howell, wife of William Alfred Howell of West- 
mount, Quebec. 

Nadia-Anne Lucyshyn Hruszij, wife of Mycola Hruszij of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

John Joseph Huitson of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Denise Noel Huit- 
son. 



70 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

Norma Ann Murray Hurley, wife of Thomas Richard Joseph Hurley of 
Beaurepaire, Quebec. 

Lillian Florence Catherine Kaye Hurst, wife of Douglas Charles Hurst of 
Montreal, Quebec. 

Harry Hyman of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Rose Terese Emond Hyman. 

Ion Ignatescu of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Saveta Palagian Ignatescu. 

Robert Inglis, Junior, of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Dorothy Edith 
Dodd Inglis. 

Haidy Amalie Madelaine Vasesha Jack, wife of John Thomas Jack of 
Montreal, Quebec. 

Rosa Degen Jacobson, wife of Michael Jacobson of Montreal, Quebec. 

Zbigniew Stanislaw Janicki of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Vittorina 
Bernardi Janicki. 

Christine Viger Johnson, wife of Harteny Lawrence Johnson of Valois, 
Quebec. 

Phyllis Carol Green Johnston, wife of William Johnston of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Regina Brauner Kamin, wife of Isak (Jack) Kamin of Montreal, Quebec. 

Cacilie Johanna Friederike Hagedorn Kaatz, wife of Herbert Kaatz of 
St. Laurent, Quebec. 

Diane Goldberg Kaplansky, wife of Dave Kaplansky of Montreal, Quebec. 

Lily (Laura) Anita Stubina Karbelnik, wife of Louis Edward Karbelnik 
of St. Laurent, Quebec. 

Margaret Anna Varga Kenwood, wife of Ronald Albert Kenwood of Mont- 
real, Quebec. 

Karl Heinz Kerlikowsky of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Elisabeth Ingrid 
Lopinski Kerlikowsky. 

Marie Louise Renz Kern, wife of Constant Kern of Montreal, Quebec. 

Zelda Barbara Fine Kimberg, wife of Irving Noah Kimberg of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Gabriela Meislova Kiwitt, wife of Wiliam Kiwitt of Beaurepaire, Quebec. 

Mildred Dishell Kligman, wife of Sam Kligman of Montreal, Quebec. 

Maureen Davies Knowles, wife of Geoffrey Arnold Knowles of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Elizabeth Anne Hanley Kotania, wife of Thaddeus Julian John Kotania of 
LaSalle, Quebec. 

Dora Elfriede Elizabeth Christian Jacobi Kovacs, wife of Lajos Louis 
Kovacs, alias Kovac of Montreal, Quebec. 

Joan Jeanette Hazlett Krautle, wife of Karl Otto Krautle of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Nora Bridget Whalen Lahey, wife of John Joseph Lahey of the Province 
of Newfoundland. 

Stephen Alexander Lantos of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Marie Luise 
Schmidt Lantos. 

Joyce Irene Bernard Larocque, wife of Andrew Joseph Larocque of the 
Province of Quebec. 

Constance Valerie McKnight Laurie, wife of Norman Earl Laurie of Verdun, 
Quebec. 

Philippe Lebeau of Ville LaSalle, Quebec, husband of Jacqueline Pilon 
Lebeau. 



A.D. 1962 TUESDAY, 6th FEBRUARY 71 

Maurice Le Bel of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Yvonne Desalliers Le Bel. 

Stella Proctor Leblanc, wife of Bernard Leblanc of Montreal, Quebec. 

Guy Lefebvre of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Madeleine Bergeron 
Lefebvre. 

Barbara Phyllis Lipchitz Lippman Leibovitch, wife of Bernard Leibovitch 
of Montreal, Quebec. 

Violet Pearl St. James Kerr Lemoine, wife of Stanley Allen Lemoine of 
Montreal, Quebec. 

Maria Jeney Lenkei, wife of Francois Ferenc Lenkei (Leichtag) of Mont- 
real, Quebec. 

Celia Mucznik Lesnik, wife of Borys Lesnik of Montreal, Quebec. 

Moe Levin of Westmount, Quebec, husband of Bette Nobleman Levin. 

Bette Nobleman Levin, wife of Moe Levin of Westmount, Quebec. 

Ines Barbara Harari Levy, wife of Nessim alias Nathan Levy of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Margaret Ada Edwards Lewis, wife of Gilbert Stephen Lewis of St. 
Laurent, Quebec. 

Jean Bernard L'Heureux of Ville LeMoyne, Quebec, husband of Monique 
St. Germain L'Heureux. 

Marsha Mendelman Liberman, wife of Saul Liberman of Montreal, Quebec. 

Sheila Izenberg Liebling, wife of Gilbert Liebling of Montreal, Quebec. 

Geraldine Elaine Edwards Liverpool, wife of Samuel Allan Liverpool of 
the Province of Quebec. 

Nathalie Katyk Longtin, wife of Claude Valois Longtin of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Dorothy Estelle Gibbons Lord, wife of Richard Leslie Michael Lord of 
Montreal, Quebec. 

Karl-Heinz Hans Luedders of Laval-des-Rapides, Quebec, husband of 
Irene Antonie Otten Luedders. 

Frances Feldman Lyman, wife of Harvey Lyman of Montreal, Quebec. 

Fernande Carloni Mandanici, wife of Dante Mandanici alias Denis 
Mandenice of Montreal, Quebec. 

Phyllis Amber Manoah, wife of Yaacov Manoah of Montreal, Quebec. 

Edward Sidney Mansfield of the Town of Bois de Filion, Quebec, husband 
of Dorothea Lyon Innes Mansfield. 

Leonard Marchand (Mihalcean) of Pont Viau, Quebec, husband of Gertrude 
Emond Marchand. 

Beatrice Sternberg Marlow, wife of Douglas Marlow of Montreal, Quebec. 

Dawn Dorothea Armstrong Marsden, wife of Ross John Chambers Marsden 
of St. Eustache-sur-le-Lac, Quebec. 

Sandra Mary-Louise Deering Martin, wife of Wallace Martin of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Anna Luella Zacharias Matthews, wife of Ronald Rupert Matthews of 
Montreal, Quebec. 

Mildred Dawson Larmonth Meakins, wife of Jonathan Payette Meakins of 
Montreal, Quebec. 

Marie Aleta (Maude) Barker Meerovitch, wife of Nathaniel Meerovitch of 
Montreal, Quebec. 



72 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

Evelyne Paquette Millette, wife of Andre Millette of Verdun, Quebec. 

John Andrew Milne of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Doris Robertson 
Milne. 

Leslie Thomas Norval Modler of Cartierville, Quebec, husband of Nina 
Naomi March Modler. 

Gladys Noreen Hill Monette, wife of John James Monette of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Harold Moreau of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Suzanne Dragon Moreau. 

May Margaret Rodgers Morelli, wife of Nicholas Morelli of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Vilma Kirby Morris, wife of Albert Reginald Morris of St. Laurent, Quebec. 

Valerie Jean Arnott Morton, wife of John Ure Morton of Verdun, Quebec. 

Ruth Clark Moss, wife of Harry Moss of Montreal, Quebec. 

Shirley Guss Moss, wife of Monty Moss of Cote St. Luc, Quebec. 

Doreen Eleanor Bishop Mulcahy, wife of Stanley Leo Francis Mulcahy of 
Montreal, Quebec. 

Elsa Trolle Munch, wife of Arne Munch of Dorval, Quebec. 

Thelma Joanette Lawless MacDonald, wife of John Francis MacDonald of 
the Province of Quebec. 

Vera Irene Scott MacKenzie, wife of William George MacKenzie, of 
Lachute, Quebec. 

Vida Irene Louise Zwicker McCallum, wife of William Neil McCallum of 
Montreal, Quebec. 

Edith Rozel Dougan McDougall, wife of David McDougall of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Angus Mcintosh of Verdun, Quebec, husband of June Theresa Gearey 
Mcintosh. 

Ellen Chase Biggar McKellar, wife of Bruce McKellar of Montreal, Quebec. 

Pamela Ellen Wischhusen McLeod, wife of Percy Peerce McLeod of St. 
Laurent, Quebec. 

Sandra E. Haan McVety, wife of John A. McVety of Montreal, Quebec. 

Lajos, also known as Louis, Nagy of Lachine, Quebec, husband of Ilonka 
Hajnal Nagy. 

Betty Solomon Naimovitch, wife of Max Issie Naimovitch (Naimo) of 
St. Laurent, Quebec. 

Josephine (Rose) Tworek Nawrocki, wife of Joseph John Nawrocki of 
Montreal, Quebec. 

Paul Neron of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Denise Riopel Neron. 

Frances Cynthia Beloff Nevitt, wife of Joshua Nevitt of Montreal, Quebec. 

Hugh O'Connor of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Kathleen West Taylor 
O'Connor. 

Jean Elizabeth Simmons O'Reilly, wife of Michael Walter O'Reilly of 
St. Laurent, Quebec. 

Pawel Olejnik of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Maria Bzik Olejnik. 

Charles Harold Page of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Carole Ann Gollan 
Page. 

Giovanni Pallott of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Gerarda Delia Zazzera 
Pallott. 



A.D. 1962 TUESDAY, 6th FEBRUARY 73 

Clara Edith Laszlo Papp, wife of Otto Papp of Montreal, Quebec. 

Mary Ruth Girling Parent, wife of Guy Michael Parent of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Paul Parizeau of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Georgette Clement Parizeau. 

Virginia Ruth Baker Parmiter, wife of Douglas Parmiter of Ville La- 
Salle, Quebec. 

Joan Mary Graham Pearson, wife of Richard Hammond Pearson of Mont- 
real, Quebec. 

Suzi Elizabeth Locke Perry, wife of Robert Arnold Perry of the Town of 
St. Bruno, Quebec. 

Maureen Mary Mears Piercey, wife of William Frederick Piercey of Mont- 
real, Quebec. 

Eva Florence Eigen Plaskett, wife of Gordon Plaskett of Montreal, Quebec. 

Werner Hermann Pluss of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Maria Vincenza 
Patricia Calderisi Pluss. 

Georgine Jun Plzak, wife of Bohumil Plzak of Sutton, Quebec. 

Mona Mauron Pozza, wife of Corrado Pozza of Montreal, Quebec. 

Jean Guy Prud'homme of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Aimee Lamon- 
tagne Prud'homme. 

Lena Bruyn Quelle, wife of Hendricus Johanns Quelle of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Joseph Yvon Quevillon of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Marie Gertrude 
Leduc Quevillon. 

Alphonse Eugene Racine of He Bizard, Quebec, husband of Norma Lor- 
raine Cumming Watson Racine. 

Evelyn Jordan Rae, wife of Clifford Rae of Montreal, Quebec. 

Joyce Evelyn Mackie Ranger, wife of Joseph Paul Emille Nelson Ranger 
of Riviere Beaudette, Quebec. 

Patricia Rose Sheen Rankin, wife of Allan Hugh Rankin of Verdun, 
Quebec. 

Hale Calvin Reid of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Geraldine Margaret 
Ouellette Reid. 

Elizabeth Shaw Fisher Wolfe Reid, wife of Kenneth Allan Reid, of 
Montreal, Quebec. 

Monique Fournier Remy, wife of Edouard Remy of St-Marc-sur-Richelieu, 
Quebec. 

Real Richard of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Marcella Levesque Richard. 

Fay Naiman Richt, wife of Joseph Richt of Montreal, Quebec. 

Jean Alice Beswick Rinder, wife of Leonard Rinder of Montreal, Quebec. 

Calvin Harold Robinson of Laval-des-Rapides, Quebec, husband of Shirley 
MacDonald Robinson. 

Geraldine Ludgarde Pineault Romer, wife of Joseph Frank Romer of 
Chomeday South, Quebec. 

Marcelle Guedj Rosenberg, wife of Salomon Rosenberg of Montreal, Quebec. 

Isadore Rosenblatt of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Sarah Molly Speevak 
Rosenblatt. 

Susie Susser Rosenblatt, wife of Meir Rosenblatt of Outremont, Quebec. 



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Rebecca Rafalkes Rosenstrauss, wife of Eisig Rosenstrauss of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Irene Gargano Ross, wife of Stanley Ross of Montreal, Quebec. 

Nellie Rosen Rothman, wife of Charles Rothman of Westmount, Quebec. 

Joseph-Zenon Roland Roy of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Jacqueline 
Forget Roy. 

Gerda-Sascha Slosarczyk Rozwadowski, wife of Jerzy Rozwadowski of 
St. Laurent, Quebec. 

Gerda Margarete Brodersen Ruhnau, wife of Willi Gustave Ruhnau of 
Montreal, Quebec. 

Beverley Anne Bishop Runions, wife of Harold Kenneth Runions of Sher- 
brooke, Quebec. 

Kathleen Meades Ryan, wife of Albert George Ryan of Point St. Charles, 
Quebec. 

Molly Cohen Sacks, wife of Melvin Sacks of Montreal, Quebec. 

Kathleen Stokes Sangster, wife of John Sangster of Montreal, Quebec. 

Carmelo Domenico Saya of L'Abord-a-Plouffe, Quebec, husband of Claire 
Davis Saya. 

Frieda Lina Witt Schaub, wife of Clemens Heinrich Schaub of Hampstead, 
Quebec. 

Lorna Greenberg Scherzer, wife of Paul Scherzer of Montreal, Quebec. 

Ida Dubrofsky Schwartz, wife of Moses Albert Schwartz of Cote St. Luc, 
Quebec. 

Marie Theresa Keefe Sckyra, wife of Erwin Sckyra of Longueuil, Quebec. 

Cynthia Elsie Rollock Scott, wife of Marcel Sinclair Scott of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Joseph Maurice Sealy of Ville Jacques-Cartier, Quebec, husband of Clara 
Allan Godding Sealy. 

Agnes Irene Groundwater Seaman, wife of Terence John Wendell Seaman 
of Montreal, Quebec. 

Cecile Rosier Wall Senecal, wife of Jean Senecal of Montreal, Quebec. 

Anna May Watts Sergent, wife of William Charles Ross Sergent of West- 
mount, Quebec. 

Blima (Wendy) Weitzman Shapiro, wife of Harry (Hirsh) Shapiro of 
Montreal, Quebec. 

William Sharko of Chateauguay, Quebec, husband of Sonja Giesella Burk- 
hardt Sharko. 

Jeannine Elizabeth Buchanan Sharpe, wife of Theodore Sharpe of Mont- 
real, Quebec. 

Fernande Dufresne Showers, wife of Glen Malcolm Showers of Roxboro, 
Quebec. 

Lloyd James Simpson of Ste. Anne de Bellevue, Quebec, husband of Hazel 
Weston Kindred Simpson. 

Imrich Sinka of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Abargita Kukla Sinka. 

Marion Ruth Catherine Harding Slattery, wife of Edward Michael Slattery 
of Verdun, Quebec. 

Patricia Ann Nind Small, wife of Leonard Edward George Small of Mont- 
real, Quebec. 

Elizabeth Lillian Banks Small, wife of Richard William Small of Cha- 
teauguay, Quebec. 



A.D. 1962 TUESDAY, 6th FEBRUARY 75 

Aline Helene Desjardins Smith, wife of Desmond Edward Smith of Mont- 
real, Quebec. 

Ruby Rita Williams Smith, wife of John Michael Smith of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Sylvia Hopkins Socaransky, wife of Samuel Socaransky of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Rolland Souliere of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Henriette Lefebvre 
Souliere. 

Myrtle Alice Carr Southwood, wife of Harold Thomas Southwood of 
Sherbrooke, Quebec. 

Kurt Sperlich of Cote St. Luc, Quebec, husband of Helga Drescher Sper- 
lich. 

Sylvia Bertha Schneider Spires, wife of John Joseph Spires of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Bertha Bromirska Staruch, wife of John Staruch of Montreal, Quebec. 

Elizabeth Angela McMenamin Stirling, wife of Alexander Stirling of 
Dorval, Quebec. 

Adele Kathleen Paquin Strachan, wife of Kenneth Alexander Strachan 
of Montreal, Quebec. 

Frances Beatrice Campbell Strang, wife of Aubrey Raymond Strang of 
Montreal, Quebec. 

Leomay Marie Blanche Chouinard Chilco Stratton, wife of James Martin 
Stratton of Montreal, Quebec. 

Anna Bovingdon Strickland, wife of Edward Strickland of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Audrey Barbara Harris Sutton, wife of Frederick Albert Sutton of Mont- 
real, Quebec. 

Hyman Omri Tannenbaum of Baie d'Urfe, Quebec, husband of Elsie Sarah 
Kirouac Tannenbaum. 

Louis Tassin of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Anita Gauthier Tassin. 

Marketa Langer Tata, wife of Saam Tata of Montreal, Quebec. 

Donat Theriault of Ste-Therese-de-Blainville, Quebec, husband of Anne 
Turgeon Theriault. 

J. Georges Robert Thivierge of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Marie Made- 
lyn Emerentienne Smith Thivierge. 

Isadore Titleman of Outremont, Quebec, husband of Marion Ganstil Title- 
man. 

Glen Stewart Small Tornay, wife of Edgar Tornay of Montreal, Quebec. 

Beverley Maron Trachtenberg, wife of Arthur Trachtenberg, also known 
as Tratt, of Montreal, Quebec. 

Alma Dupuis Tremblay, wife of Marcel Tremblay of Montreal, Quebec. 

Doris Irene Moss Trerice, wife of Nelson Webster Trerice of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Milton Lawrence Trickey of St. Constant, Quebec, husband of Myrtle 
Ramona Feltham Trickey. 

Denise Boudreau Trottier, wife of Jacques Trottier of Montreal, Quebec. 

Leo Paul Turcotte of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Henriette Laborgne 
Turcotte. 

Irene Horianska Tyminski, wife of Tadeusz Tyminski of Montreal, Quebec. 

Maurice Varin of Montreal North, Quebec, husband of Pierrette Gariepy 
Varin. 



76 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

Lygery Papademetriou Varverikos, wife of Emmanuel Varverikos of 
Montreal, Quebec. 

Andre Vermette of Longueuil, Quebec, husband of France Richard Ver- 
mette. 

Marie-Jeanne Pare Vezeau, wife of Joseph Vezeau of Montreal, Quebec. 

Helene Denise Quintal Vien, wife of Jean Thomas Vien of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Donna Maureen Croteau Vincent, wife of Real Vincent of Longueuil, 
Quebec. 

Stasys Vysniauskas of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Zenta Bertulaite 
Vysniauskas. 

Linnea Erna Barbara Gussow Walker, wife of Henry Norman Walker of 
Baie d'Urfe, Quebec. 

Barbara Ann Tivy Wallace, wife of Kenneth William Wallace of St. 
Lambert, Quebec. 

Lillian Anne LePoidevin Waller, wife of Frederick Louis Walker of Laval- 
des-Rapides, Quebec. 

Phyllis Helen Dorothy Rodrigue Walsh, wife of John Barrie Walsh of 
Verdun, Quebec. 

Sheila Allison Pettigrew Wardell, wife of Ronald Wilson Wardell of Sorel, 
Quebec. 

William Metcalfe Watt of Laval West, Quebec, husband of Rosemary 
Evelyn MacCartney Watt. 

Mary Catherine Mullins Weatherby, wife of Martin Weit Weatherby of 
Verdun, Quebec. 

Toni Anna Lydia Mogoby Weiss, wife of Bernard Weiss (Weisz) of 
Montreal, Quebec. 

Anton Welte of Longueuil, Quebec, husband of Christina Mayer Welte. 

Esther Sheps Wertheimer, wife of William Wertheimer of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Alexandra May Westover, wife of Gerald Sydney Westover of Austin, 
Quebec. 

Sylvia Rumianik Wexler, wife of Jack Wexler of Montreal, Quebec. 

Miriam Fairbairn White, wife of Matthew White of Montreal, Quebec. 

Stanley Frank White of Lachine, Quebec, husband of Dawn Elaine Wankel 
White. 

John Harold Williams of Ormstown, Quebec, husband of Beatrice Dorothy 
Brohman Williams. 

James Richard Williamson of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Claire Morin 
Williamson. 

Albert Henry Grabeldinger Willis of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Erna 
Margot Szlata Willis. 

Odette Rosalie Louise Hick Winter, wife of Herbert Felix Anton Winter 
of Montreal, Quebec. 

Helena Jadwiga Igiel Vel Frankel Wodnicki, wife of Stanislaw Wodnicki 
of Montreal, Quebec. 

Sheila Callan Wolofsky, wife of Leib Wolofsky of Montreal, Quebec. 

Lily Heyes Worthington, wife of Ronald Worthington of Ville LaSalle, 
Quebec. 

Jennie Cmikiewics Zajko, wife of Joseph Stanley Zajko of Montreal, 
Quebec. 



A.D. 1962 TUESDAY, 6th FEBRUARY 77 

Franz Zeitlhofer of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Theresia Maria Sum- 
merer Zeitlhofer. 

Rachele Landau Zimber, wife of Leo Zimber of Montreal, Quebec. 

Mary Jane Kirkpatrick Marshall Devlin, wife of Hugh Devlin of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Josephine Suhr Deems Moseley, wife of Herbert Frederick Moseley of 
Westmount, Quebec. 



At ten o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until tomorrow at 2.30 o'clock p.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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No. 15 

JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, WEDNESDAY, 7th FEBRUARY, 1962. 



2.30 o'clock p.m. 
Prayers. 

Thirty-nine petitions for Private Bills were presented in accordance with 
Standing Order 70(1). 



The following Questions were made Orders for Returns under the provi- 
sions of Standing Order 39(4) as provisionally amended: 

Question No. 71, by Mr. Mcllraith, — Order of the House for a Return show- 
ing: 1. Has the government been in touch with the United Kingdom Govern- 
ment with respect to making available to the Canadian House of Commons 
a copy of the full summary of the speech made by Edward Heath, Britain's 
Lord Privy Seal, in Paris on October 10, 1961? 

2. If so, what reply has been received from the British Government? 

Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, 
presented, — Return to the foregoing Order. 



* Question No. 82, by Mr. Fisher, — Order of the House for a Return show- 
ing: 1. Has the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation received a protest from 
La Societe des Amis de Maurice-L. Duplessis? 

2. If so, when, and about what? 

3. To whom was the protest sent? 



80 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

4. Has the government itself, distinct from the CBC, received any such 
protest? 

5. Has either the government or the CBC received any representations 
about the matter in protest from any federal Ministers of the Crown, acting 
as members or agents of La Societe des Amis de Maurice-L. Duplessis? 



* Question No. 94, by Mr. Howard, — Order of the House for a Return show- 
ing: 1. Are any revenue Post Offices in Canada contained in the premises of 
The Hudson's Bay Company and, if so, what are the names of any such post 
offices? 

2. In each of the said post offices, what is (a) the name and address of 
the Postmaster, and the date of his original and any subsequent appointments 
(b) the amount of his monthly payment, and the place to which this monthly 
payment is addressed? 



Mr. Hamilton (Notre-Dame-de-Grace), a Member of the Queen's Privy 
Council, presented, — Return to the foregoing Order. 



Question No. 106, by Mr. Martin (Essex East), — Order of the House for 
a Return showing: 1. What were the total amounts spent in all departments 
of government during the 1960-61 fiscal year and the 1961-62 fiscal year to 
date on civil defence, survival, emergency measures and related programs? 

2. What is the total amount of the estimated expenditures in all depart- 
ments of government for the 1962-63 fiscal year for civil defence, survival, 
emergency measures and related programs? 



Question No. 108, by Mr. Argue, — Order of the House for a Return show- 
ing: 1. Was or is City Construction Company, Limited, of Vancouver, under 
contract with the Department of Transport for the development of Cold Lake 
Airport, Alberta? 

2. If so, (a) when did contract tenders close (b) when was the contract 
awarded to City Construction Company, Limited (c) was any investigation 
made of this company's financial position before the contract was awarded (d) 
were progress payments made to the company and were they made on the 
strength of statutory declarations and, if so, (i) what were the amounts of 
the progress payments and on what dates were they made (ii) is the gov- 
ernment still in possession of the statutory declarations? 

3. Were progress payments to the company eventually stopped and, if so, 
why, and on what date? 

4. Did the Department of Transport, or any of its officials in Edmonton, 
receive complaints concerning non-payment or slow payment by the company 
to sub-contractors and, if so, (a) on what date was the first complaint or in- 
timation that something was wrong received (b) what action was then taken, 
and on what date or dates? 

5. Did the company make a proposal, or several proposals, under the 
Bankruptcy Act and, if so, (a) to what effect and on what date or dates (b) 
when was the Trustee appointed under the Bankruptcy Act, what is his name, 
and what position, if any, does he hold with the Mercantile Bank (c) has the 



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Trustee submitted to the creditors a statement of the source and application 
of all funds received for the Cold Lake project and, if so, what was the source 
and application of these funds? 

6. Was the company indebted to the Mercantile Bank on December 31, 
1958, and on December 31, 1959, and, if so, what was the amount on both 
dates? 

Question No. 112, by Mr. Pitman, — Order of the House for a Return show- 
ing: 1. How many communities were carrying on courses for unemployed 
persons under Schedule M to the Agreements under the Technical and Voca- 
tional Training Assistance Act as of December 1, 1961? 

2. What were the names of these communities, and how many persons 
were being trained in each case? 

3. What courses of instruction were being offered in each of these com- 
munities, and how many persons were being trained in each of these courses? 

4. What was the total cost of the program in the year 1961? 

Question No. 113, by Mr. Pitman, — Order of the House for a Return show- 
ing: 1. What was the total enrolment in vocational training at the secondary 
school level in Ontario as of December 31, 1960? 

2. What was the total capacity of institutions offering vocational training 
at the secondary school level in Ontario as of December 31, 1960? 

3. What was the total number of new vocational or vocational wings to 
existing institutions, at the secondary school level, approved by the federal 
government for 75% grant as of December 31, 1961? 

4. What will be the maximum enrolment possible for these vocational 
schools already approved? 

5. How many students graduated in woodworking in the vocational second- 
ary schools in Ontario in the year 1961? 

6. How many woodworking shops in Ontario vocational secondary schools, 
or new wings of such institutions, have been approved by the federal govern- 
ment in 1961? 

* Question No. 119, by Mr. Howard, — Order of the House for a Return show- 
ing: 1. Since July 1, 1961, has the Premier of British Columbia or any member 
of the British Columbia government approached the federal government ask- 
ing that an agreement be entered into between the two said governments for 
the building of a highway between Prince Rupert, B.C., and Jasper, Alberta, 
under a plan of financial participation similar to that existing pursuant to 
the Trans-Canada Highway Act; and, if so, upon what date was the said ap- 
proach made, and by whom? 

2. Were any proposals made by the said British Columbia representatives 
for a plan of financial participation and, if so, what are the details thereof? 

3. What reply, if any, was given by the federal government? 

Question No. 124, by Mr. Herridge, — Order of the House for a Return show- 
ing: 1. What are the titles of each book banned or prohibited entry into Canada 
by the Department of National Revenue in each year since 1952 when the last 
such return was made? 

2. Which of said books was prohibited because of (a) its treasonable 
or seditious nature (b) its immoral or indecent character? 



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3. What officials made the examination of each of the said books, and 
who made the final decision to ban or prohibit in each case? 

4. Are such officials given special training to qualify them to decide what 
is proper, from a literary, moral or political standpoint, for Canadians to read; 
and, if so, what is the nature of such training? 

5. What titles are presently on the prohibited or banned list? 



Notices of Motions for the Production of Papers (Nos. 2, 5, and 6) having 
been called were allowed to stand at the request of the government. 



On motion of Mr. Argue, seconded by Mr. Herridge, it was ordered, — 
That an humble Address be presented to His Excellency praying that he will 
cause to be laid before this House a copy of all correspondence, telegrams, and 
other documents exchanged between the government and each of the provinces 
since January 1, 1961, regarding the establishment of a national power grid 
system. — (Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers No. 9). 



Mr. Howard, seconded by Mr. Fisher, moved, — That an humble Address 
be presented to His Excellency praying that he will cause to be laid before 
this House a copy of all correspondence, telegrams, and other documents ex- 
changed between the government or any agency, department, or branch 
thereof, and any other government since April 1, 1960, relating to the breadth 
of the territorial sea and proposals for the widening thereof. — (Notice of 
Motion for the Production of Papers No. 10). 

And the question being proposed; 

The honourable Member for Skeena (Mr. Howard) stated that he desired 
a debate on the said motion. 

Ordered, — That the said motion be transferred by the Clerk to the order 
of "Notices of Motions (Papers)" pursuant to Standing Order 47 as provisionally 
amended. 



On motion of Mr. Argue, seconded by Mr. Herridge, it was ordered, — 
That an humble Address be presented to His Excellency praying that he 
will cause to be laid before this House a copy of all correspondence, telegrams, 
and other documents exchanged between the federal government and any 
provincial government since January 1, 1961, regarding federal aid for the 
construction of a second Trans-Canada Highway system. — (Notice of Motion 
for the Production of Papers No. 11). 



On motion of Mr. Pickersgill, seconded by Mr. Robichaud, it was ordered, 
— That an humble Address be presented to His Excellency praying that he 
will cause to be laid before this House a copy of all correspondence exchanged 
between any member of the Government of Canada on the one hand, and the 
Mayor of Yarmouth, Nova Scotia, on the other, since January 1, 1961, regard- 
ing the replacement of the lighthouse at Yarmouth, Nova Scotia. — (Notice of 
Motion for the Production of Papers No. 12). 



A.D. 1962 WEDNESDAY, 7th FEBRUARY 83 

Bill C-54, An Act to amend the Old Age Security Act, was read the third 
time and passed. 



The House resumed consideration in Committee of the Whole of a certain 
proposed resolution to amend the Old Age Assistance Act. 

(In the Committee) 

The following resolution was adopted: 

Resolved, — That it is expedient to introduce a measure to amend the Old 
Age Assistance Act to increase to sixty-five dollars per month the maximum 
amount of assistance in respect of which payments may be made to the prov- 
inces under the provisions of that Act, and to increase the total amount of 
allowable income, inclusive of assistance, by one hundred and eighty dollars a 
year in the case of an unmarried person and three hundred and sixty dollars a 
year in the case of a married person. 

Resolution to be reported. 



The said resolution was reported and concurred in. 



Mr. Monteith (Perth), seconded by Mr. Fulton, by leave of the House, 
presented Bill C-55, An Act to amend the Old Age Assistance Act, which was 
read the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the 
House. 

The House resolved itself into Committee of the Whole to consider a 
certain proposed resolution to amend the Blind Persons Act. 

(In the Committee) 

The following resolution was adopted: 

Resolved, — That it is expedient to introduce a measure to amend the 
Blind Persons Act to increase to sixty-five dollars per month the maximum 
amount of allowance in respect of which payments may be made to the prov- 
inces under the provisions of that Act, and to increase the total amount of 
allowable income, inclusive of allowance, by one hundred and eighty dollars 
a year in the case of an unmarried person and three hundred and sixty dollars 
a year in the case of a married person. 

Resolution to be reported. 



The said resolution was reported and concurred in. 

Mr. Monteith (Perth), seconded by Mr. Churchill, by leave of the House, 
presented Bill C-56, An Act to amend the Blind Persons Act, which was read 
the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House. 

A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Senate had passed Bill C-51, An Act for granting to Her Majesty certain sums 
of money for the public service for the financial year ending the 31st March, 
1962. 



84 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

Mr. Speaker communicated to the House the following letter: 

GOVERNMENT HOUSE 
OTTAWA 

7th February, 1962. 
Sir, 

I have the honour to inform you that the Honourable Patrick Kerwin, 
Chief Justice of Canada, in his capacity as Deputy of His Excellency the 
Governor-General, will proceed to the Senate Chamber today, the 7th February 
at 5.45 p.m., for the purpose of giving Royal Assent to a certain bill. 

I have the honour to be, 

Sir, 
Your obedient servant, 

ESMOND BUTLER, 
Secretary to the Governor-General. 
The Honourable 

The Speaker of the House of Commons. 



(At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Private Members' Business was called pursuant to 
Standing Order 15(3) as provisionally amended) 

(Notices of Motions) 

Mr. Pitman, seconded by Mr. Peters, moved, — That the government give 
consideration to the establishment of a National Adult Education Research 
Council to gather information and to promote all forms of Adult Education 
whether academic or vocational and whether sponsored by private or public 
bodies and to co-ordinate these programs and to promote the creation of a 
permanent centre for the scientific study of education for adults in Canada. — 
(Notice of Motion No. 4). 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



A Message was received from the Honourable Patrick Kerwin, Chief 
Justice of Canada, in his capacity as Deputy of His Excellency the Governor- 
General, desiring the immediate attendance of the House in the Senate Chamber. 



Accordingly, Mr. Speaker with the House went to the Senate Chamber. 
And being returned; 



Mr. Speaker informed the House that he had addressed the Honour- 
able the Deputy of His Excellency the Governor-General as follows: 

"May it Please Your Honour: 

"The Commons of Canada have voted Supplies required to enable the 
government to defray certain expenses of the public service. 



A.D. 1962 WEDNESDAY, 7th FEBRUARY 85 

"In the name of the Commons, I present to Your Honour the following 
bill: 

'An Act for granting to Her Majesty certain sums of money for the public 
service of the financial year ending the 31st March, 1962'. 

"To which bill I humbly request Your Honour's Assent." 

Whereupon, the Clerk of the Senate, by command of the Deputy of His 
Excellency the Governor-General, did say: 

"In Her Majesty's name, the Honourable the Deputy of His Excellency the 
Governor- General thanks Her Loyal Subjects, accepts their benevolence, and 
assents to this bill." 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Balcer, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Statement of 
work performed and expenditures made as of December 31, 1961, together 
with estimated expenditures for 1962, respecting the construction by the 
Canadian National Railway Company of certain railway terminal facilities at 
and in the vicinity of the City of Toronto, pursuant to section 10 of the Cana- 
dian National Toronto Terminals Act, chapter 26, Statutes of Canada, 1960. 

By Mr. Balcer, — Statement of work performed and expenditures made 
as of December 31, 1961, together with estimated expenditures for 1962, re- 
specting the construction by the Canadian National Railway Company of 
certain terminal facilities in the vicinity of the City of Montreal, pursuant to 
section 11 of the Canadian National Montreal Terminals Act, chapter 12, Stat- 
utes of Canada, 1929. 

By Mr. Balcer, — Statement of work performed and expenditures made 
as of December 31, 1961, together with estimated expenditures for 1962, under 
authority of chapter 7, Statutes of Canada, 1960-61, respecting the construc- 
tion by the Canadian National Railway Company of a railway line from mile 
72.6, Kiask Falls Subdivision, to Mattagami Lake Mines, Township of Galinee, 
in the Province of Quebec, pursuant to section 8 of the said Act. 

By Mr. Balcer, — Report of cases in which ships were relieved from com- 
pliance with steamship inspection requirements under the authority of section 
495 of the Canada Shipping Act, for the year ended December 31, 1961, 
pursuant to section 495(4) of the said Act, chapter 29, R.S.C., 1952. 

By Mr. Balcer, — Report of cases in which ships were exempted from the 
obligation of carrying certificated masters, mates or engineers under the 
provisions of section 137 of the Canada Shipping Act, for the year ended 
December 31, 1961, pursuant to section 137(2) of the said Act, chapter 29, 
R.S.C., 1952. 

By Mr. Balcer, — Report of the Cornwall International Bridge Company 
Limited, for the year ended September 30. 1961, certified by the Auditor 
General, pursuant to sections 85(3) and 87(3) of the Financial Administration 
Act, chapter 116, R.S.C., 1952. (English and French). 



86 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

By Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — 
List of shareholders in the Chartered Banks of Canada as at the end of the 
financial years ended in 1961, pursuant to section 119(1) of the Bank Act, 
chapter 48, Statutes of Canada, 1953-54. 

By Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), — List of shareholders in the banks in- 
corporated under the Quebec Savings Banks Act as at the end of the financial 
years ended in 1961, pursuant to section 93(1) of the said Act, chapter 41, 
Statutes of Canada, 1953-54. (French). 

By Mr. Fulton, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, by command of 
His Excellency the Governor-General, — Report of the Commissioner of Peni- 
tentiaries for the year ended March 31, 1961, pursuant to section 14 of the 
Penitentiary Act, chapter 206, R.S.C., 1952. (English and French). 

Second Report of the Clerk of Petitions, pursuant to Standing Order 70(7), 
as follows: — 

The Clerk of Petitions has the honour to report that the petitions of the 
following, presented on February 6, meet the requirements of Standing 
Order 70: 

Beatrice Harriet Cohen and two others, all of the City of Winnipeg, 
Manitoba, for an Act to incorporate Brock Acceptance Limited. — Mr. Smith 
(Winnipeg North). 

John David Friesen of the City of Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, and two 
others, for an Act to incorporate Evangelical Mennonite Mission Conference. — 
Mr. Muir (Lisgar). 

Andrew Osher Schwartz and two others, all of the City of Winnipeg, 
Manitoba, for an Act to incorporate Gerand Acceptance Company. — Mr. 
Smith (Winnipeg North). 

The Mutual Life Assurance Company of Canada for an Act to amend 
its Act of Incorporation authorizing the Company to use, in the transaction 
of its business, either the name "The Mutual Life Assurance Company of 
Canada" or the name "La Mutual Life, compagnie d'assurance du Canada". — 
Mr. Weichel. 

Reliance Insurance Company of Canada for an Act to amend its Act of 
Incorporation authorizing the Company to transact business either in the name 
"Reliance Insurance Company of Canada" and/or the name "La Reliance Com- 
pagnie Canadienne d' Assurances". — Mr. Lafreniere. 

The Governing Council of The Salvation Army, Canada East, and The 
Governing Council of The Salvation Army, Canada West, for an Act to amend 
their Acts of Incorporation. — Mr. Wratten. 

Joseph Dickstein and Denis Dennis, of the City of Montreal, Quebec, and 
three others, for an Act to incorporate Westmount Life Insurance Company. — 
Mr. Webster. 



At 6.15 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until tomorrow at 2.30 o'clock p.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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No. 16 

JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, THURSDAY, 8th FEBRUARY, 1962. 

2.30 o'clock p.m. 



Prayers. 



Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, delivered 
a Message from His Excellency the Governor-General, which was read by 
Mr. Speaker, as follows: 

GEORGE P. VANIER 

The Governor-General transmits to the House of Commons Further 
Supplementary Estimates (3) of sums required for the service of Canada for 
the year ending on the 31st March, 1962, and, in accordance with the provisions 
of the British North America Act, 1867, the Governor-General recommends 
these Estimates to the House of Commons. 

Government House, Ottawa. 

On motion of Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), seconded by Mr. Churchill, the said 
Message and Further Supplementary Estimates (3) were referred to the Com- 
mittee of Supply. 



Mr. Broome, seconded by Mr. Jung, by leave of the House, introduced Bill 
C-57, An Act to amend the Juvenile Delinquents Act, which was read the 
first time and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House. 



Mr. Broome, seconded by Mr. Jung, by leave of the House, introduced Bill 
C-58, An Act to amend the Companies Act (Financial Statements), which was 
read the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the 
House. 



88 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

Mr. Broome, seconded by Mr. Jung, by leave of the House, introduced 
Bill C-59, An Act respecting Company Directors (Directors' Qualifications), 
which was read the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next 
sitting of the House. 



Mr. MacLellan, seconded by Mr. Muir (Cape Breton North and Victoria), 
by leave of the House, introduced Bill C-60, An Act to amend the Representa- 
tion Act, which was read the first time and ordered for a second reading at 
the next sitting of the House. 



Mr. Ormiston, seconded by Mr. Korchinski, by leave of the House, in- 
troduced Bill C-61, An Act to Quieten Doubts that have arisen concerning 
the Constitution of and the exercise of Powers by the Canadian Wheat Board 
and for the Resolving Thereof (Canadian Wheat Board), which was read 
the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the 
House. 



Mr. Churchill for Mr. Hees, seconded by Mr. Balcer, moved, — That the 
House do go into Committee of the Whole at its next sitting to consider the 
following proposed resolution which has been recommended to the House by 
His Excellency: 

That it is expedient to introduce a measure to amend the Export Credits 
Insurance Act to increase the maximum liability at any time of importers under 
outstanding instruments the payment of which is guaranteed by the Corpora- 
tion under section 21a of the Act, from $200,000,000 to $300,000,000; and to 
provide further for a certain change in connection with the administration 
of the Act. 

Resolved, — That the House do go into Committee of the Whole at its 
next sitting to consider the said proposed resolution. 



The House resolved itself into Committee of the Whole to consider a 
certain proposed resolution to amend the Disabled Persons Act; 

And the House continuing in Committee; 

At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker took the Chair. 



(Private Members' Business was called pursuant to Standing Order 15(3) as 

provisionally amended) 

[Notices of Motions (Papers)} 

Mr. Howard, seconded by Mr. Fisher, moved, — That an humble Address 
be presented to His Excellency praying that he will cause to be laid before 
this House a copy of all correspondence, telegrams, and other documents ex- 
changed between the government or any agency, department, or branch 
thereof, and any other government since April 1, 1960, relating to the breadth 
of the territorial sea and proposals for the widening thereof. — (Notice of 
Motion for the Production of Papers No. 10). 



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89 



After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
negatived on the following division: 



Fisher, 
Herridge, 



Howard, 



Yeas 
Messrs: 
Peters, 



Winch — 5. 



Nays 



Messrs: 



Aiken, 

Aitken (Miss), 

Allard, 

Badanai, 

Balcer, 

Baldwin, 

Barrington, 

Baskin, 

Batten, 

Beech, 

Bell (Carleton), 

Belzile, 

Benidickson, 

Boivin, 

Bourbonnais, 

B our que, 

Broome, 

Browne (St. John's 
West), 

Browne (Vancouver- 
Kings way), 

Bruchesi, 

Brunsden, 

Campbell 

(Lambton-Kent), 

Campbell 
(Stormont), 

Cardiff, 

Cardin, 

Carter, 

Casselman (Mrs.), 

Cathers, 

Chambers, 

Charlton, 

Chatterton, 

Churchill, 

Clancy, 

Coates, 

Cooper, 

Creaghan, 

Crouse, 

Danforth, 

Denis, 

Deschatelets, 

Diefenbaker, 

Dinsdale, 



Dor ion, 

Doucett, 

Drouin, 

Drysdale, 

Dumas, 

Dupuis, 

English, 

Eudes, 

Fairclough (Mrs.), 

Fairfield, 

Fane, 

Fleming (Eglinton), 

Fleming (Okanagan- 

Revelstoke), 
Flemming (Royal), 
Flynn, 
Forbes, 
Forgie, 
Fournier, 
Garland, 
Granger, 
Grenier, 
Grills, 
Habel, 
Hales, 
Halpenny, 
Hamilton 

(Notre-Dame- 

de-Grace), 
Hamilton 

(York West), 
Hanbidge, 
Harkness, 
Hellyer, 
Henderson, 
Hicks, 
Hodgson, 
Horner (Acadia), 
Horner 

(Jasper-Edson), 
Horner 

(The Battlefords), 
Howe, 
Johnson, 
Jones, 
Jung, 



Keays, 

Kennedy, 

Kindt, 

Korchinski, 

Lahaye, 

LaMarsh (Miss), 

Lambert, 

Legere, 

Macdonald (Mrs.), 

Macdonnell 

(Greenwood), 
MacEwan, 
Maclnnis, 
MacLean (Queens), 
MacLean (Winnipeg 

North Centre), 
MacLellan, 
Macnaughton, 
Macquarrie, 
MacRae, 
McBain, 
McCleave, 
McDonald 

(Hamilton South), 
McFarlane, 
McGee, 
McGrath, 
McGregor, 
McLennan, 
McMillan, 
McPhillips, 
Mandziuk, 
Matheson, 
Matthews, 
Meunier, 
Michaud, 
Milligan, 
Monteith (Perth), 
Montgomery, 
More, 
Morissette, 
Morris, 
Morton, 
Muir (Cape 

Breton North 

and Victoria), 



Muir (Lisgar), 

Murphy, 

Nowlan, 

Nugent, 

O'Leary, 

Ormiston, 

Pallett, 

Pascoe, 

Payne, 

Pickersgill, 

Pigeon, 

Pratt, 

Rapp, 

Regnier, 

Ricard, 

Robichaud, 

Robinson, 

Rogers, 

Rompre, 

Rowe, 

Rynard, 

Skoreyko, 

Slogan, 

Small, 

Smith (Calgary 

South), 
Smith (Lincoln), 
Smith (Simcoe 

North), 
Southam, 
Starr, 
Stefanson, 
Tardif, 
Taylor, 
Thomas, 
Tucker, 
Valade, 
Villeneuve, 
Vivian, 
Walker, 
Webb, 
Weichel, 
White, 
Woolliams, 
Wratten— 166. 



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90 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

(Public Bills) 

Orders numbered 1 to 4 inclusive, having been severally called, were 
allowed to stand at the request of the government. 



The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-ll, An Act to 
amend the Industrial Relations and Disputes Investigation Act (Application 
to Civil Service) ; 

Mr. Howard, seconded by Mr. Fisher, moved, — That the said bill be now 
read a second time. 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



The House resumed consideration in Committee of the Whole of a certain 
proposed resolution to amend the Disabled Persons Act, and progress having 
been made and reported, the Committee obtained leave to consider it again 
at the next sitting of the House. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Dorion, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Return to an 
Order of the House, dated February 5, 1962, (Question No. 65) showing: 1. 
Is a certain Mr. Godfrey living in or about Vancouver in the employ of either 
the Department of Justice or the Department of Citizenship and Immigration? 

2. If so, what are his particular responsibilities? 

Third Report of the Clerk of Petitions, pursuant to Standing Order 70(7), 
as follows: — 

The Clerk of Petitions has the honour to report that the petitions for 
Acts to annul the marriage of the following, presented on February 7 by Mr. 
McCleave, meet the requirements of Standing Order 70: 

William George Jones of St. Constant, Quebec, husband of Irene Dorothy 
Stevens Jones. 

Claude Gerard Montpetit of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Rita Katherine 
Hughes Montpetit. 

Paul-Emile Niquette of Sorel, Quebec, husband of Gisele Desrosiers 
Niquette. 

Margaret Catherine Mann Smith, wife of Douglas Kerr Smith of St. 
Lambert, Quebec. 

Fourth Report of the Clerk of Petitions, pursuant to Standing Order 70(7), 
as follows: — 

The Clerk of Petitions has the honour to report that the petitions of the 
following for divorce Acts, presented on February 7 by Mr. McCleave, meet 
the requirements of Standing Order 70: 

John Andre Anderson of St. Leonard-de-Port-Maurice, Quebec, husband 
of Elizabeth Augusta Margaretha Jarschel Anderson. 



A.D. 1962 THURSDAY, 8th FEBRUARY 91 

Aurella Lapikas Breard, wife of Jean Breard of Montreal, Quebec. 

Shirley Anderson Brimacombe, wife of Irving Brimacombe of Montreal; 
Quebec. 

Eileen Myrtle Elliott Burns, wife of James Berkeley Burns of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Francoise Hebert Campion, wife of Kenneth Rea Campion of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Rochelle Pleet Caplan, wife of Allan Steven Caplan of Montreal, Quebec. 

Elizabeth Anne Rennie Chadwick-Rider, wife of Clifford John Chadwick- 
Rider of Montreal, Quebec. 

Judith MacBeth Complin Cuggy, wife of Kenneth Douglas Cuggy of Mont- 
real, Quebec. 

Christina Ilene Burns Cunnigham, wife of Douglas Cunningham of La- 
Salle, Quebec. 

Gita Joy Kaplan Davis, wife of A. Mortimer Davis of Montreal, Quebec. 

John Donaldson of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Evelyn Mahaffey 
Donaldson. 

Alexandra Hunievicz Dublanski, wife of Joseph Dublanski of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Mildred Emily Velcoff Dumas, wife of Joseph Adrien Rolland Dumas of 
Montreal, Quebec. 

Leonard Emond of Repentigny, Quebec, husband of Bella Savard Emond. 

Bernard Hebert of Greenfield Park, Quebec, husband of Helen Rudolph 
Hebert. 

Micheline Deyglun Holowaty, wife of Sam Holowaty of Montreal, Quebec. 

Muriel Howarth Bazley Hulbig, wife of William John Hulbig of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Arlene June Roy Kaczur, wife of Gerald Joseph Kaczur of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Colleen Ann Sheen Kenny, wife of William Harold Kenny, Junior, of 
Verdun, Quebec. 

Anita Guido Lorencin Knezevic, wife of Zoran Mitar Knezevic of Mont- 
real, Quebec. 

Gerard Oscar Lanthier of Gatineau Mills, Quebec, husband of Colette 
Lanthier. 

Joseph Maurice Real Lecompte of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Marie 
Rose Dolores Helene Turenne-Lecompte. 

Frank Hamilton Mingie, Junior of Pointe Claire, Quebec, husband of 
Ruth Evelyn Norris Mingie. 

William Henry Monaghan of Hudson Heights, Quebec, husband of JoAnn 
Carol Brown Monaghan. 

Ann Marguerite Barnett MacDonald, wife of Russell Albert MacDonald of 
St. Laurent, Quebec. 

Maureen Carol McCullough McAlinden, wife of John Francis McAlinden 
of Montreal, Quebec. 

Micheline Bastien McGuire, wife of Andre McGuire of Montreal, Quebec. 

Suzanne Markovits Reiner, wife of Charles Reiner of Montreal, Quebec. 

Marcel Renaut of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Ruby Marie Bradbury 
Renaut. 

Doris Elinor Champ Roberts, wife of John Gilbert Roberts of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

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92 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

Helen Beverley Johnson Sabo, wife of Stephen Sabo of St. Laurent, 
Quebec. 

Millicent Vera Bratley Seagrove, wife of Anthony Naworth Seagrove of 
Montreal, Quebec. 

Phyllis White Siev, wife of Geoffrey Marshall Siev of Montreal, Quebec. 
Willa Keith McLaren Thomson, wife of Garth Patrick Thomson of Mont- 
real, Quebec. 

Gabrielle Alarie Ungar, wife of Harry Ungar of Montreal, Quebec. 



At ten o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until tomorrow at 11.00 o'clock a.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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OTTAWA, FRIDAY, 9th FEBRUARY, 1962. 



11.00 o'clock a.m. 

Prayers. 

The House resumed consideration in Committee of the Whole of a certain 
proposed resolution to amend the Disabled Persons Act. 

(In the Committee) 

The following resolution was adopted: 

Resolved, — That it is expedient to introduce a measure to amend the 
Disabled Persons Act to increase to sixty-five dollars per month the maximum 
amount of allowance in respect of which payments may be made to the 
provinces under the provisions of that Act, and to increase the total amount 
of allowable income, inclusive of allowance, by one hundred and eighty dollars 
a year in the case of an unmarried person and three hundred and sixty dollars 
a year in the case of a married person. 

Resolution to be reported. 



The said resolution was reported and concurred in. 



Mr. Monteith (Perth), seconded by Mr. Churchill, by leave of the House, 
presented Bill C-62, An Act to amend the Disabled Persons Act, which was 
read the first time and ordered for a second reading later this day. 



The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-55, An Act to 
amend the Old Age Assistance Act; 



94 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH H 

Mr. Monteith (Perth), seconded by Mr. Nowlan, moved, — That the said 
bill be now read a second time. 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 

Accordingly, the said bill was read the second time, considered in Com- 
mittee of the Whole, and reported without amendment. 

By unanimous consent, the said bill was read the third time and passed. 



The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-56, An Act to 
amend the Blind Persons Act; 

Mr. Monteith (Perth), seconded by Mr. Churchill, moved, — That the 
said bill be now read a second time. 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 

Accordingly, the said bill was read the second time, considered in 
Committee of the Whole, and reported without amendment. 

By unanimous consent, the said bill was read the third time and passed. 



The Order made this day being read for the second reading of Bill C-62, 
An Act to amend the Disabled Persons Act; 

Mr. Monteith (Perth), seconded by Mr. Churchill, moved, — That the said 
bill be now read a second time. 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 

Accordingly, the said bill was read the second time, considered in Com- 
mittee of the Whole, reported without amendment, and ordered for a third 
reading at the next sitting of the House. 



The House resolved itself into Committee of the Whole to consider a 
certain proposed resolution to amend the Civilian War Pensions and Allowances 
Act, and progress having been made and reported, the Committee obtained 
leave to consider it again at the next sitting of the House. 



(At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Private Members' Business was called pursuant to 
Standing Order 15(3) as provisionally amended) 

(Public Bills) 

The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-7, An Act to amend 
the Railway Act (Abandonment) ; 

Mr. Thomas, seconded by Mr. Campbell (Lambton-Kent), moved, — That 
the said bill be now read a second time. 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



A.D. 1962 FRIDAY, 9th FEBRUARY 95 

Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Balcer, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Capital Budget 
of Trans-Canada Air Lines for the year ending December 31, 1962, pursuant 
to section 80(2) of the Financial Administration Act, chapter 116, R.S.C., 1952, 
together with a copy of Order in Council P.C. 1962-152, dated February 6, 
1962, approving same. 

By Mr. Balcer, — Report of Park Steamship Company Limited for the 
year ended December 31, 1961, certified by the Auditor General, pursuant to 
sections 85(3) and 87(3) of the Financial Administration Act, chapter 116, 
R.S.C., 1952. 

By Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — 
Statement prepared in the form of Schedule Q to the Bank Act, showing 
Composite Current Operating Earnings and Expenses of the Chartered Banks 
of Canada for the financial years ended in 1961, pursuant to section 119(1) of 
the said Act, chapter 48, Statutes of Canada, 1953-54. 

By Mr. Charlton, Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Agriculture, 
by command of His Excellency the Governor-General, — Report of the Minister 
of Agriculture for Canada for the year ended March 31, 1961, pursuant to 
section 6 of the Department of Agriculture Act, chapter 66, R.S.C., 1952. 
(French). 



At 6.02 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until Monday next at 2.30 o'clock p.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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No. 18 

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OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, MONDAY, 12th FEBRUARY, 1962. 

2.30 o'clock p.m. 



Prayers. 



Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, delivered 
a Message from His Excellency the Governor-General, which was read by 
Mr. Speaker, as follows: 

GEORGE P. VANIER 

The Governor- General transmits to the House of Commons Estimates of 
sums required for the service of Canada for the year ending on the 31st March, 
1963, and, in accordance with the provisions of the British North America Act, 
1867, the Governor-General recommends these Estimates to the House of 
Commons. 

Government House. 

On motion of Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), seconded by Mr. Churchill, the said 
Message and Estimates were referred to the Committee of Supply. 



Mr. Balcer, seconded by Mr. Hees, moved, — That the House do go into 
Committee of the Whole at its next sitting to consider the following proposed 
resolution which has been recommended to the House by His Excellency: — 

That it is expedient to introduce a measure to authorize and to provide 
for the construction and operation on behalf of Her Majesty of a line of 
railway in the Province of Quebec, between Matane and Ste-Anne des Monts, 
a distance of approximately 57 miles; to provide also that the Governor in 
Council shall pay to the Canadian National Railway Company an amount 
equal to the cost to the said Company of constructing the railway line 
(including the cost of survey of location and the cost of acquisition of the land 
required for the railway line) not exceeding in any case the sum of $16,100,000. 

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Resolved, — That the House do go into Committee of the Whole at its next 
sitting to consider the said proposed resolution. 



Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), seconded by Mr. Churchill, moved, — That the 
House do go into Committee of the Whole at its next sitting to consider the 
following proposed resolution which has been recommended to the House by 
His Excellency: — 

That it is expedient to introduce a measure to provide for the payment 
of certain provincial taxes and fees by Crown Corporations on or after the 
1st day of April, 1962. 

Resolved, — That the House do go into Committee of the Whole at its next 
sitting to consider the said proposed resolution. 



The following Questions were made Orders for Returns under the provi- 
sions of Standing Order 39(4) as provisionally amended: 

Question No. 127, by Mr. Broome, — Order of the House for a Return show- 
ing: 1. What are the names, locations, number of units, and dates of comple- 
tion of each servicemen's and veterans Housing project presently administered 
by Central Mortgage and Housing Corporation? 

2. How many houses in each project have been sold; how many are now 
rented, and are these rented units available for sale? 

3. Is there a sales rebate policy; and, if so, give details as to how it is 
applied to all projects listed in (1) above, including those, if any, where the 
sales rebate policy has been discontinued? 



Question No. 134, by Mr. Fisher, — Order of the House for a Return show- 
ing: 1. What government departments or agencies have dentists employed in a 
professional capacity? 

2. On January 1, 1962, how many such dentists were on the establishment 
of each department or agency? 

3. How many dentists have left the service of the federal government in 
each of the last three calendar years? 

4. How many dentists joined the government service in each of the last 
three calendar years? 

5. How many competitions have been held by the Civil Service Commis- 
sion for dentists in the last three calendar years; and what number of ap- 
plicants (a) applied (b) qualified (c) entered the service through these com- 
petitions? 

6. In general terms, does the Civil Service Commission find it "easy", "dif- 
ficult", or "almost impossible" to recruit dentists at the present time? 



Question No. 140, by Mr. Denis, — Order of the House for a Return show- 
ing: 1. How many cheque forms printed in English (a) are at present available 
to the Treasury Board (b) have been ordered but not yet delivered? 

2. On what dates and at what prices have such undelivered cheque 
forms been ordered? 



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*Question No. 141, by Mr. Matheson, — Order of the House for a Return 
showing: What proportion of Canada's exports and imports for the years 1956 to 
1961 was with (a) the United Kingdom (b) the United States (c) Japan (d) 
the European Economic Community countries (e) others? 

Mr. Morris, Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Trade and Com- 
merce, presented, — Return to the foregoing Order. 



* Question No. 142, by Mr. Matheson, — Order of the House for a Return 
showing: What were the government's receipts and disbursements for all 
purposes for the years 1956 to 1961? 



Bill C-62, An Act to amend the Disabled Persons Act, was read the third 
time and passed. 



The House resolved itself into Committee of the Whole to consider a 
certain proposed resolution respecting the construction by Canadian National 
Railway Company of a line of railway in the Province of Alberta. 

(In the Committee) 

The following resolution was adopted: 

Resolved, — That it is expedient to introduce a measure to authorize and to 
provide for the construction of a line of railway in the Province of Alberta by 
Canadian National Railway Company from Whitecourt for a distance of ap- 
proximately 23.2 miles to the property of Pan American Petroleum Corporation, 
at a total estimated expenditure of $2,300,000, not to be exceeded by more 
than fifteen per cent; to authorize the issue by the said Railway Company 
of securities that may be guaranteed by Her Majesty in right of Canada to 
finance the construction of the said line; and in order that the said Railway 
Company may forthwith proceed with the construction of the said line oi 
railway, to authorize temporary loans to the said Railway Company out of 
the Consolidated Revenue Fund upon terms and conditions prescribed by 
the Governor in Council and secured by securities of the said Railway 
Company. 

Resolution to be reported. 



The said resolution was reported and concurred in. 



Mr. Balcer, seconded by Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), by leave of the House, 
presented Bill C-63, An Act respecting the Construction of a line of railway 
in the Province of Alberta by Canadian National Railway Company from 
Whitecourt, Alberta, in a westerly direction for a distance of approximately 
23.2 miles to the property of Pan American Petroleum Corporation, which 
was read the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting 
of the House. 



The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-48, An Act to amend 
An Act respecting the Construction of a line of railway by Canadian National 
Railway Company from Optic Lake to Chisel Lake, and the Purchase by 
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Canadian National Railway Company from The International Nickel Company 
of Canada, Limited, of a line of railway from Sipiwesk to a point on Burnt- 
wood River near Mystery Lake, all in the Province of Manitoba; 

Mr. Balcer, seconded by Mr. Hamilton (Notre-Dame-de-Grace), moved, 
— That the said bill be now read a second time. 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 

Accordingly, the said bill was read the second time and referred to the 
Standing Committee on Railways, Canals and Telegraph Lines. 



The House resumed consideration in Committee of the Whole of a certain 
proposed resolution to amend the Civilian War Pensions and Allowances Act; 

And the House continuing in Committee; 

At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker took the Chair. 



(Private Members' Business was called pursuant to Standing Order 15(3) as 

provisionally amended) 

(Notices of Motions) 

Mr. McMillan, seconded by Mr. Hellyer, moved, — That, in the opinion of 
this House, the government should consider the advisability of encouraging 
reasonable early vesting of pension rights of employees by disallowing in 
whole or in part the employer's claims for a deduction of the expenses of 
pensions for income tax purposes where reasonable vesting provisions are not 
adopted. — (Notice of Motion No. 5). 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



The House resumed consideration in Committee of the Whole of a certain 
proposed resolution to amend the Civilian War Pensions and Allowances Act. 

(In the Committee) 

The following resolution was adopted: 

Resolved, — That it is expedient to introduce a measure to amend the Civil- 
ian War Pensions and Allowances Act to permit the payment of allowances, 
similar to those provided for veterans and their dependants under the War 
Veterans Allowance Act, 1952, to surviving former members and to certain 
dependants of deceased members of a number of civilian groups of Canadians 
who made outstanding voluntary contributions to the war effort during World 
War I and World War II under difficult and dangerous conditions. 

Resolution to be reported. 



The said resolution was reported and concurred in. 



A.D. 1962 MONDAY, 12th FEBRUARY 101 

Mr. Churchill, seconded by Mr. Browne (St. John's West), by leave of 
the House, presented Bill C-64, An Act to amend the Civilian War Pensions 
and Allowances Act, which was read the first time and ordered for a second 
reading at the next sitting of the House. 



The House resolved itself into Committee of the Whole to consider a 
certain proposed resolution to amend the Children of War Dead (Education 
Assistance) Act. 

(In the Committee) 

The following resolution was adopted: 

Resolved, — That it is expedient to introduce a measure to amend the 
Children of War Dead (Education Assistance) Act to clarify the definition of 
"student"; to extend the benefits under the Act to certain classes of children; 
to extend in certain cases the education-assistance period; to extend in the 
case of particular students the age limit at which all benefits will cease; to 
accept a student for assistance under the Act where his education has been 
interrupted by ill health or other good cause; and to increase the rate of 
allowances. 

Resolution to be reported. 



The said resolution was reported and concurred in. 



Mr. Churchill, seconded by Mr. Walker, by leave of the House, presented 
Bill C-65, An Act to amend the Children of War Dead (Education Assistance) 
Act, which was read the first time and ordered for a second reading at the 
next sitting of the House. 



The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-36, An Act to 
amend the War Service Grants Act; 

Mr. Churchill, seconded by Mr. Walker, moved, — That the said bill be 
now read a second time. 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 

Accordingly, the said bill was read the second time, considered in Com- 
mittee of the Whole, reported without amendment, and ordered for a third 
reading at the next sitting of the House. 

The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-37, An Act to 
amend the Veterans Insurance Act; 

Mr. Churchill, seconded by Mr. Walker, moved, — That the said bill be 
now read a second time. 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 

Accordingly, the said bill was read the second time, considered in Com- 
mittee of the Whole, reported without amendment, and ordered for a third 
reading at the next sitting of the House. 



102 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

The House resolved itself into Committee of the Whole to consider a 
certain proposed resolution to amend the St. Lawrence Seaway Authority Act. 

(In the Committee) 

The following resolution was adopted: 

Resolved, — That it is expedient to introduce a measure to amend the St. 
Lawrence Seaway Authority Act to provide that the Authority, with the ap- 
proval of the Governor in Council, may from time to time borrow money from 
Her Majesty or otherwise to an aggregate that shall not at any time exceed 
$345,000,000.00 in lieu of $335,000,000.00 which it is already authorized to 
borrow by section 13 of the Act. 

Resolution to be reported. 



The said resolution was reported and concurred in. 



Mr. Balcer, seconded by Mr. Churchill, by leave of the House, presented 
Bill C-66, An Act to amend the St. Lawrence Seaway Authority Act, which was 
read the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the 
House. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Dorion, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Return to an 
Order of the House, dated January 29, 1962, (Question No. 35) showing: 1. In 
the recent "Tocsin B" exercise held in Canada, how many bombs were dropped 
in the simulated attack, and what was the total megatonage of these bombs? 

2. How many bombs were of approximately (a) 1-5 megatons (b) 5-10 
megatons (c) 10-20 megatons (d) 20-30 megatons (e) 30-40 megatons (f) 40- 
50 megatons (g) over 50 megatons? 

3. What centres in Canada were supposedly hit by bombs? 

4. What were the estimated casualties in each? 

5. What was the extent of the simulated attack in terms of (a) ICBMs 
fired (b) ICBMs destroyed before reaching their targets (c) missiles fired from 
submarines (d) missiles fired from submarines destroyed before reaching their 
targets (e) bombers attacking (/) bombers destroyed? 

6. What was the estimated effect in terms of immediate fall-out in Canada 
from bombs and missiles (a) landing in the United States of America (b) land- 
ing off target in Canada (because of our defences, etc.)? 

By Mr. Dorion, — Return to an Order of the House, dated February 5, 1962, 
(Question No. 101) showing: 1. Has the Government of the Province of Quebec 
signed any agreements since June 30, 1958, concerning joint projects with 
respect to forests, with any of the federal Departments of Forestry, Agriculture, 
or Northern Affairs and National Resources? 



A.D. 1962 MONDAY, 12th FEBRUARY 103 

2. If so, which joint projects are involved, and what amounts have been 
paid to the Province? 



At 10.02 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until tomorrow at 2.30 o'clock p.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



A.D. 1962 TUESDAY, 13th FEBRUARY 105 

No. 19 

JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, TUESDAY, 13th FEBRUARY, 1962. 

2.30 o'clock p.m. 



Prayers. 



Bill C-36, An Act to amend the War Service Grants Act, was read the 
third time and passed. 



Bill C-37, An Act to amend the Veterans Insurance Act, was read the 
third time and passed. 



The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-63, An Act 
respecting the Construction of a line of railway in the Province of Alberta 
by Canadian National Railway Company from Whitecourt, Alberta, in a 
westerly direction for a distance of approximately 23.2 miles to the property 
of Pan American Petroleum Corporation; 

Mr. Balcer, seconded by Mr. Churchill, moved, — That the said bill be 
now read a second time. 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 

Accordingly, the said bill was read the second time and referred to the 
Standing Committee on Railways, Canals and Telegraph Lines. 



By unanimous consent, it was ordered that, when the above-mentioned 
bill has been reported back to the House by the Standing Committee on 
Railways, Canals and Telegraph Lines, the Address Debate, if then in progress, 
shall be interrupted to consider this bill in Committee of the Whole and the 
third reading thereof. 



106 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

The House resolved itself into Committee of the Whole to consider a 
certain proposed resolution respecting the construction by Canadian National 
Railway Company of a line of railway between Matane and Ste. Anne des 
Monts in the Province of Quebec; 

And the House continuing in Committee; 

At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker took the Chair. 



(Private Members' Business was called pursuant to Standing Order 15(3) 
as provisionally amended) 

(Public Bills) 

Orders numbered 1 to 4 inclusive, having been severally called, were 
allowed to stand at the request of the government. 



The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-13, An Act to 
amend the Criminal Code (Nuisance) ; 

Mr. Herridge, seconded by Mr. Fisher, moved, — That the said bill be now 
read a second time. 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



The House resumed consideration in Committee of the Whole of a certain 
proposed resolution respecting the construction by Canadian National Railway 
Company of a line of railway between Matane and Ste. Anne des Monts in 
the Province of Quebec. 

(In the Committee) 

The following resolution was adopted: 

Resolved, — That it is expedient to introduce a measure to authorize and to 
provide for the construction and operation on behalf of Her Majesty of a line of 
railway in the Province of Quebec, between Matane and Ste. Anne des Monts, 
a distance of approximately 57 miles; to provide also that the Governor in 
Council shall pay to the Canadian National Railway Company an amount 
equal to the cost to the said Company of constructing the railway line 
(including the cost of survey of location and the cost of acquisition of the land 
required for the railway line) not exceeding in any case the sum of $16,100,000. 

Resolution to be reported. 



The said resolution was reported and concurred in. 



Mr. Balcer, seconded by Mr. Sevigny, by leave of the House, presented 
Bill C-67, An Act to authorize the Construction and Operation on behalf of 
Her Majesty of a line of railway in the Province of Quebec between Matane 
and Ste. Anne des Monts, which was read the first time and ordered for a 
second reading at the next sitting of the House. 



A.D. 1962 TUESDAY, 13th FEBRUARY 107 

The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-66, An Act to 
amend the St. Lawrence Seaway Authority Act; 

Mr. Balcer, seconded by Mr. Sevigny, moved, — That the said bill be now 
read a second time. 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 

Accordingly, the said bill was read the second time, considered in Com- 
mittee of the Whole, and reported without amendment. 

By unanimous consent, the said bill was read the third time and passed. 



The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-64, An Act to 
amend the Civilian War Pensions and Allowances Act; 

Mr. Churchill, seconded by Mr. Starr, moved, — That the said bill be now 
read a second time. 

And debate arising thereon; the said debate was interrupted at ten o'clock. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Dorion, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Return to an 
Address, dated September 13, 1961, to His Excellency the Governor-General 
(Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers No. 159) for a copy of all 
correspondence, telegrams, and other documents exchanged between the Board 
of Broadcast Governors or the Department of Transport or the Minister of 
National Revenue and all other persons since January 1, 1960, concerning the 
granting of a licence for a television satellite or a rebroadcasting station to 
provide television service to the French-speaking population of Madawaska 
and Victoria counties in New Brunswick. 

By Mr. Dorion, — Return to an Order of the House, dated February 5, 
1962, (Question No. 13) showing: 1. Has the government had any discussions 
with Dr. Norman Z. Alcock concerning the formation of a Canadian Peace 
Research Institute? 

2. If so, did Dr. Alcock make any request for aid? 

3. If so, has any decision been made in this regard? 

4. If so, what is the nature of the decision? 

By Mrs. Fairclough, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, by command 
of His Excellency the Governor-General, — Report of the Department of Citizen- 
ship and Immigration for the year ended March 31, 1961, pursuant to section 
7 of the Department of Citizenship and Immigration Act, chapter 67, R.S.C., 
1952. (English and French). 



At 10.03 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until tomorrow at 2.30 o'clock p.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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OTTAWA, WEDNESDAY, 14th FEBRUARY, 1962. 



Prayers. 



2.30 o'clock p.m. 



Thirty-five petitions for Private Bills were presented in accordance with 
Standing Order 70(1). 



Mr. Pallett, from the Special Committee appointed to prepare and report 
lists of Members to compose the Standing Committees of the House under 
Standing Order 65, presented the following as its First Report: 

Your Committee, in accordance with Standing Order 65, recommends 
that the Standing Committees of this House be composed of the following 
Members: 

No. 1 

Privileges and Elections 



Aiken, 

Barrington, 

Bell (Carleton), 

Caron, 

Deschambault, 

Godin, 

Grills, 

Henderson, 

Hodgson, 

Howard, 



Messrs. 



Johnson, 

Macquarrie, 

Mandziuk, 

McBain, 

McDonald 

(Hamilton South), 
McGee, 
Mcllraith, 
McWilliam, 
Meunier, 

(Quorum 10) 



Montgomery, 

Nielsen, 

Ormiston, 

Paul, 

Pickersgill, 

Richard (Ottawa East), 

Valade, 

Webb, 

Webster, 

Wcolliams — 29. 



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No. 2 
Railways, Canals and Telegraph Lines 



Messrs. 



Allmark, 

Asselin, 

Badanai, 

Baldwin, 

Benidickson, 

Bourbonnais, 

Bourget, 

Bourque, 

Brassard (Chicoutimi), 

Brassard (Lapointe), 

Browne (Vancouver- 

Kingsway), 
Bruchesi, 
Cadieu, 

Campbell (Stormont), 
Campeau, 
Chevrier, 
Creaghan, 
Crouse, 
Denis, 
Drysdale, 



Dumas, 

Fisher, 

Fournier, 

Grills, 

Hodgson, 

Horner (Acadia), 

Howe, 

Johnson, 

Keays, 

Kennedy, 

LaMarsh (Miss), 

Lessard, 

Maclnnis, 

MacLean (Winnipeg 

North Centre), 
Martin (Essex East), 
Matheson, 
McBain, 
McDonald 

(Hamilton South), 
McFarlane, 

(Quorum 20) 



McGee, 

McGregor, 

McPhillips, 

Monteith (Verdun), 

Pascoe, 

Payne, 

Phillips, 

Pigeon, 

Pitman, 

Rapp, 

Rogers, 

Rynard, 

Simpson, 

Smith (Calgary South), 

Smith (Lincoln), 

Smith (Simcoe North), 

Thompson, 

Tucker, 

Valade, 

Woolliams, 

Wratten— 60. 



No. 3 

Miscellaneous Private Bills 



Messrs. 



Baldwin, 

Batten, 

Beech, 

Bigg, 

Broome, 

Campbell ( Stormont) , 

Carter, 

Chatterton, 

Cooper, 

Crestohl, 

Danforth, 

Forbes, 

Forgie, 

Garland, 

Granger, 

Hales, 

Horner 

(The Battlefords), 



LaMarsh (Miss), 
Kennedy, 
Knowles, 
MacEwan, 
MacLean (Winnipeg 

North Centre), 
Macnaughton, 
Mandziuk, 
Martin (Timmins), 
Matthews, 
McBain, 
McCleave, 
McDonald 

(Hamilton South), 
McFarlane, 
McLennan, 
McMillan, 
Milligan, 

(Quorum 15) 



Mitchell, 

Monteith (Verdun), 

More, 

Morton, 

Nixon, 

Ormiston, 

Peters, 

Regnier, 

Robinson, 

Rogers, 

Simpson, 

Smith (Lincoln), 

Smith (Simcoe North), 

Smith (Winnipeg 

North), 
Stefanson, 
Webster, 
Wratten— 50. 



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No. 4 
Banking and Commerce 



Messrs. 



Aiken, 

Argue, 

Asselin, 

Baldwin, 

Bell (Carleton), 

Bell (Saint John-Albert) 

Benidickson, 

Bigg, 

Brassard (Chicoutimi), 

Broome, 

Campeau, 

Cardin, 

Caron, 

Cathers, 

Chevrier, 

Clermont, 

Creaghan, 

Crestohl, 



Drysdale, 
Hales, 
Hanbidge, 
Hicks, 

Horner (Acadia), 
,Jung, 

Macdonald (Mrs.), 
Macdonnell (Greenwood) 
MacLean (Winnipeg 

North Centre), 
MacLellan, 
Macnaughton, 
Martin (Essex East), 
Mcllraith, 
Mcintosh, 
More, 
Morissette, 

(Quorum 15) 



Morton, 
Nasserden, 
Nugent, 
Pascoe, 
Pickersgill, 
Regier, 
Robichaud, 
,Rowe, 
Rynard, 
Skoreyko, 
Smith (Winnipeg 

North), 
Southam, 
Stewart, 
Stinson, 
Thomas, 
Woolliams — 50. 



No. 5 
Public Accounts 



Messrs. 



Beech, 

Bell (Carleton), 

Benidickson, 

Bissonnette, 

Bourbonnais, 

Bourget, 

Brassard (Chicoutimi) 

Broome, 

Bruchesi, 

Campeau, 

Danforth, 

Deschatelets, 

Denis, 

Drysdale, 

Dupuis, 

Grenier, 

Hales, 



Hanbidge, 

Hellyer, 

Keays, 

Lahaye, 

Macdonnell (Greenwood) 

Macnaughton, 

McGee, 

McGrath, 

McGregor, 

Morissette, 

Morton, 

Muir (Lisgar), 

Murphy, 

Noble, 

Nugent, 

Pickersgill, 

Pigeon, 

(Quorum 15) 



Pratt, 
Regier, 
Robichaud, 
Rouleau, 

, Smith (Lincoln), 
Smith (Simcoe North), 
Smith (Winnipeg North), 
Spencer, 
Stefanson, 
Stewart, 
Tucker, 
Valade, 
Villeneuve, 
Winch, 
Woolliams, 
Wratten— 50. 



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No. 6 
Agriculture and Colonization 





Messrs. 




Argue, 


Gundlock, 


Muir (Lisgar), 


Badanai, 


Hales, 


Nasserden, 


Belzile, 


Henderson, 


Noble, 


Boulanger, 


Hicks, 


Pascoe, 


Brassard (Lapointe), 


Horner (Acadia), 


Peters, 


Cadieu, 


Howe, 


Phillips, 


Campbell (Lambton- 


Kindt, 


Racine, 


Kent), 


Knowles, 


Rapp, 


Clancy, 


Korchinski, 


Regnier, 


Clermont, 


Lahaye, 


Rogers, 


Cooper, 


Leduc, 


Rompre, 


Danforth, 


Latour, 


Slogan, 


Doucett, 


Letourneau, 


Smallwood, 


Drouin, 


Mandziuk, 


Southam, 


Dubois, 


Matheson, 


Stefanson, 


Dupuis, 


McBain, 


Tardif, 


Fane, 


Mcintosh, 


.Thomas, 


Forbes, 


Michaud, 


Thompson, 


Forgie, 


Milligan, 


Tucker, 


Godin, 


Montgomery, 

(Quorum 20) 


Villeneuve, 
Webb— 60. 



Aitken (Miss), 

Argue, 

Batten, 

Best, 

Bourdages, 

Brassard (Chicoutimi), 

Campeau, 



No. 7 
Standing Orders 



Messrs. 



Danforth, 

Forgie, 

Frechette, 

Garland, 

Grafftey, 

Horner (Jasper-Edson), 

Loiselle, 

(Quorum 8) 



McWilliam, 

Meunier, 

Milligan, 

Spencer, 

Webb, 

Webster— 20. 



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No. 8 
Marine and Fisheries 



Messrs. 



Batten, 

Browne (Vancouver- 

Kingsway ) , 
Cardin, 
Carter, 
Crouse, 
Danforth, 
Drysdale, 
English, 
Gillet, 
Granger, 
Grenier, 



Howard, 

Keays, 

Legere, 

Macdonald (Mrs.), 

MacEwan, 

MacLellan, 

Matthews, 

McCleave, 

McGrath, 

McLennan, 

McPhillips, 

McQuillan, 

(Quorum 10) 



McWilliam, 

Michaud, 

Murphy, 

Noble, 

O'Leary, 

Phillips, 

Pickersgill, 

Robichaud, 

Speakman, 

Stefanson, 

Stewart, 

Tucker — 35. 



No. 9 
Mines, Forests and Waters 



Messrs. 



Aiken, 
Baskin, 
Cadieu, 

Campbell (Stormont) 
Chatterton, 
Clermont, 
Coates, 
Doucett, 
Drysdale, 
Dumas, 

Fleming (Okanagan- 
Revelstoke), 



Godin, 

Granger, 

Gundlock, 

Hicks, 

Kindt, 

Korchinski, 

LaMarsh (Miss), 

Leduc, 

MacRae, 

Martel, 

Martin (Timmins), 

McFarlane, 

(Quorum 10) 



McGregor, 

McLennan, 

McQuillan, 

Mitchell, 

Muir (Cape Breton North 

and Victoria), 
Nielsen, 
Nugent, 
Payne, 
Racine, 
Robichaud, 
Rompre, 
Simpson — 35. 



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No. 10 
Industrial Relations 





Messrs. 




Beech, 


Granger, 


Monteith ( Verdun ) , 


Benidickson, 


Lafreniere, 


Muir (Cape Breton 


Bourdages, 


Lahaye, 


North and Victoria), 


Broome, 


LaMarsh (Miss), 


Noble, 


Browne ( Vancouver - 


MacLean (Winnipeg 


Pigeon, 


Kingsway ) , 


North Centre), 


Pitman, 


Caron, 


Mandziuk, 


Rieard, 


Clermont, 


Martin (Essex East), 


Simpson, 


Creaghan, 


Martini, 


Skoreyko, 


Drouin, 


McDonald (Hamilton 


Small, 


Fournier, 


South) , 


Smith (Winnipeg North), 


Godin, 


McWilliam, 


Spencer, 


Grafftey, 


Mitchell, 

(Quorum 10) 

No. 11 
Debates 


Weichel— 35. 




Messrs. 




Argue, 


Fortin, 


Paul, 


Campbell 


McPhillips, 


Pigeon, 


(Lambton-Kent) , 


Monteith (Verdun), 


Regnier, 


Chevrier, 


Nixon, 

(Quorum 7) 

No. 12 
External Affairs 


Richard (Ottawa East), 
Roberge — 12. 



Aitken (Miss), 
Allard, 
Asselin, 
Batten, 
Cardin, 

Casselman (Mrs.), 
Cathers, 
Crestohl, 
Eudes, 
Fairfield, 

Fleming (Okanagan- 
Revelstoke), 



Messrs. 

Garland, 

Hellyer, 

Herridge, 

Jung, 

Kucherepa, 

Lafreniere, 

Lennard, 

MacLellan, 

Mandziuk, 

Martin (Essex East), 

McCleave, 

McGee, 

(Quorum 10) 



Mcintosh, 

Montgomery, 

Nesbitt, 

Nugent, 

Pearson, 

Pratt, 

Regier, 

Richard (Ottawa East), 

Slogan, 

Smith (Calgary South), 

Vivian, 

White— 35. 



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No. 13 






Estimates 






Messrs. 




Argue, 


Dumas, 


McGregor, 


Baldwin, 


Fairfield, 


Mcllraith, 


Benidickson, 


Fleming (Okanagan- 


McQuillan, 


Best, 


Revelstoke), 


McWilliam, 


Bissonnette, 


Fortin, 


More, 


Bourbonnais, 


Gillet, 


Noble, 


Bourdages, 


Grafftey, 


Parizeau, 


Bourget, 


Hales, 


Payne, 


Brassard (Lapointe), 


Hellyer, 


Pickersgill, 


Broome, 


Horner (Jasper-Edson), 


Pratt, 


Bruchesi, 


Howe, 


Pugh, 


Campbell 


Korchinski, 


Richard (Kamouraska) , 


(Lambton-Kent) , 


LaMarsh (Miss), 


Skoreyko, 


Cardin, 


MacLellan, 


Smith (Calgary South), 


Caron, 


Matheson, 


Stewart, 


Carter, 


McCleave, 


Stinson, 


Cathers, 


McDonald 


Thompson, 


Clancy, 


(Hamilton South), 


Vivian, 


Coates, 


McFarlane, 


White, 


Crouse, 


McGee, 


Winch, 


Drysdale, 


McGrath, 

(Quorum 20) 


Winkler— 60. 



No. 14 
Veterans Affairs 



Messrs. 



Badanai, 


Herridge, 


O'Leary, 


Barrington, 


Jones, 


Ormiston, 


Batten, 


Kennedy, 


Parizeau, 


Beech, 


LaMarsh (Miss), 


Peters, 


Benidickson, 


Lennard, 


Pugh, 


Broome, 


MacEwan, 


Roberge, 


Cardin, 


MacRae, 


Robinson, 


Carter, 


Matthews, 


Rogers, 


Chatterton, 


McFarlane, 


Smith (Lincoln), 


Clancy, 


Mcintosh, 


Stewart, 


Denis, 


McWilliam, 


Thomas, 


Fane, 


Monteith (Verdun), 


Webster, 


Forgie, 


Montgomery, 

(Quorum 15) 


Weichel, 
Winkler— 40. 



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No. 15 

Printing 

(Members to Act on the part of the Commons) 



Allard, 

Asselin, 

Barrington, 

Belzile, 

Bissonnette, 

Boivin, 

Bourdages, 

Bourque, 

Brunsden, 

Cadieu, 

Campeau, 

Caron, 

Clancy, 

Cooper, 

Creaghan, 

Deschambault, 

Deschatelets, 

Dubois, 



Messrs. 

Dupuis, 
Fane, 
Fisher, 
Fortin, 
Gillet, 
Godin, 
Grafftey, 
Gundlock, 
Henderson, 
Howard, 
Korchinski, 
Lahaye, 
Lessard, 
Letourneau, 
Matheson, 
Maclnnis, 
MacLellan, 

McDonald, (Hamilton 
South), 



McLennan, 

McWilliam, 

Meunier, 

Michaud, 

Morissette, 

O'Leary, 

Phillips, 

Rapp, 

Richard (Kamouraska), 

Robinson, 

Rouleau, 

Skoreyko, 

Slogan, 

Smallwood, 

Southam, 

Taylor, 

Webb, 

Winkler— 54. 



No. 16 

Library of Parliament 

(Members to Act on the part of the Commons) 



Aitken (Miss), 

Belzile, 

Bourbonnais, 

Bourque, 

Brunsden, 

Campeau, 

Eudes, 

Fairfield, 

Fisher, 

Fleming (Okanagan- 

Revelstoke), 
Forbes, 
Frechette, 
Grenier, 
Hanbidge, 
Kindt, 



Mr. Speaker and Messrs. 

Knowles, 

LaRue, 

Lennard, 

Lessard, 

Macquarrie, 

Martel, 

Matthews, 

McFarlane, 

McGee, 

Mcllraith, 

Muir (Lisgar), 

Nixon, 

Pigeon, 

Pratt, 

Racine, 

Ratelle, 



Regier, 

Richard (Ottawa East) 

Richard (Saint- 

Maurice-Lafleche) , 
Rouleau, 
Simpson, 
Skoreyko, 
Small, 

Smith (Lincoln), 
Smith (Simcoe North), 
Smith 

(Winnipeg North), 
Southam, 
Stinson, 
Tremblay — 45. 



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No. 17 

Restaurant 

(Members to Act on the part of the Commons) 



Bourque, 
Campbell 

(Lambton-Kent) , 
Carter, 
Chatterton, 
Deschatelets, 
Doucett, 
Godin, 
Hales, 



Mr. Speaker and Messrs. 

Horner 

(The Battlefords), 
Lafreniere, 
Latour, 
Legere, 
Letourneau, 
Martin (Timmins), 
McGregor, 
McQuillan, 



Muir (Lisgar), 

Pratt, 

Richard (Ottawa East), 

Tardif, 

Taylor, 

Villeneuve, 

Weichel, 

Wratten— 25. 



By unanimous consent, on motion of Mr. Pallett, seconded by Mr. Bell 
(Carleton), the said Report was concurred in. 



On motion of Mr. Diefenbaker, seconded by Mr. Churchill, it was ordered, 
— That the Standing Committees of this House be severally empowered to 
examine and inquire into all such matters and things as may be referred to 
them by the House; and to report from time to time their observations and 
opinions thereon, with power to send for persons, papers and records. 



On motion of Mr. Pallett, seconded by Mr. Bell (Carleton), it was ordered, 
— That Messages be sent to the Senate to acquaint Their Honours that this 
House will unite with them in the formation of Joint Committees of both 
Houses on the subject of Printing of Parliament, the direction of the Library 
of Parliament, and the direction of the Parliamentary Restaurant; and that 
the Members to serve on each of the Committees, on the part of this House, 
will be as contained in the First Report of the Special Committee presented 
this day. 



The following Questions were made Orders for Returns under the provi- 
sions of Standing Order 39(4) as provisionally amended: 

*Question No. 73, by Mr. Howard, — Order of the House for a Return show- 
ing: Since November 1, 1961, has the Government of Canada, or any agency, 
branch, or department thereof, paid any money to, or on behalf of, or is any 
money owed to, or on behalf of, any editor, publisher, or other representative 
of any newspaper, excluding payments for advertisements, and if so, with 
respect to each such editor, publisher or other representative, what is (a) 
his name and address (b) the newspaper which he represented or was 
associated with (c) the amount of any such payment or indebtedness for 
transportation expenses and the places travelled to and/or from (d) the amount 
of any such payment or indebtedness for hotel and/or meals (e) the amount 
of any other such payment and the reasons therefor? 



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* Question No. 123, by Mr. Leduc, — Order of the House for a Return show- 
ing: 1. Does the Department of Transport bill other departments of govern- 
ment or individuals for use of its passenger plane; and, if so, have any such 
billings been made with respect to travels made by members of the government 
either to (a) their individual departments (b) to non-governmental organiza- 
tions or individuals? 

2. If the answer is "yes" in the case of (b), what amounts have been 
billed in each case, and for what flights? 

* Question No. 130, by Mr. Fisher, — Order of the House for a Return show- 
ing: 1. Did a representative of the Economics Division of the federal Depart- 
ment of Forestry address a joint meeting of Canadian and American foresters 
in Minneapolis? 

2. If so, (a) who was he (b) what were his professional qualifications (c) 
did he comment upon the operation of American corporations in Canadian 
forest industries (d) did he make any statements about the effect of such 
corporations upon the competitive position of Canada in world markets (e) 
did he offer any solution to the problem (/) did he express any opinions about 
the international nature of the trade unions which hold contracts in the Cana- 
dian Woods Industry; and, if so, to what effect? 

Mr. Flemming (Royal), a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, presented, 
— Return to the foregoing Order. 



Question No. 157, by Mr. Herridge, — Order of the House for a Return show- 
ing: What are the rates of pay for the following prevailing rates employees of 
the Department of National Defence in the Toronto area, and when did these 
rates come into effect (a) plumbers (b) painters (c) motor mechanics (d) 
electricians (e) labourers? 



Notices of Motions for the Production of Papers (Nos. 2, 13, and 14) having 
been called were allowed to stand at the request of the government. 



Mr. Mcllraith, seconded by Mr. Martin (Essex East), moved, — That an 
humble Address be presented to His Excellency praying that he will cause to 
be laid before this House a copy of all contracts entered into between the 
Canadian Wheat Board and the China Resources Company for the sale of 
grain under the long term Agreement between the Canadian Wheat Board 
and the China Resources Company. — (Notice of Motion for the Production of 
Papers No. 5). 

And the question being put on the said motion, it was negatived on 
the following division: 

Yeas 







Messrs: 




Allard, 


Bourque, 


Crestohl, 


Godin, 


Badanai, 


Brassard 


Dumas, 


Granger, 


Batten, 


(Lapointe), 


Dupuis, 


Habel, 


Benidickson, 


Cardin, 


Eudes, 


Herridge, 


Boivin, 


Caron, 


Forgie, 


Howard, 


Boulanger, 


Carter, 


Garland, 


LaMarsh (Miss), 



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Lessard, 

Loiselle, 

Mcllraith, 

McMillan, 

McWilliam, 

Martin (Essex East), 



Aiken, 

Aitken (Miss), 

Barrington, 

Baskin, 

Bell (Carleton), 

Bell (Saint John- 
Albert), 

Belzile, 

Bigg, 

Bourbonnais, 

Broome, 

Browne (St. John's 
West), 

Browne (Vancouver- 
Kingsway), 

Bruchesi, 

Brunsden, 

Cadieu, 

Campbell 

(Lambton-Kent), 

Campbell, 
(Stormont), 

Cardiff, 

Caselman (Mrs.), 

Cathers, 

Chambers, 

Charlton, 

Chatterton, 

Churchill, 

Clancy, 

Cooper, 

Creaghan, 

Crouse, 

Danforth, 

Deschambault, 

Diefenbaker, 

Dinsdale, 

Dorion, 

Doucett, 

Drouin, 

Drysdale, 

Dubois, 



Martin (Timmins), Pickersgill, 



Matheson, 

Meunier, 

Michaud, 

Mitchell, 

Pearson, 



Pitman, 
Richard 

(Saint-Maurice- 

Laneche), 
Roberge, 



Robichaud, 
Rouleau, 
Tardif, 
Tucker, 
Winch — 44. 



Nays 



Messrs: 



English, 

Fairclough (Mrs.), 

Fairfield, 

Fane, 

Fleming (Eglinton), 

Fleming (Okanagan- 

Revelstoke), 
Flemming (Royal), 
Flynn, 
Forbes, 
Fortin, 
Fulton, 
Green, 
Grills, 
Gundlock, 
Hales, 
Halpenny, 
Hamilton 

(Notre-Dame- 

de-Grace), 
Hanbidge, 
Henderson, 
Horner (Acadia), 
Horner 

(The Battlefords), 
Howe, 
Johnson, 
Jorgenson, 
Keays, 
Kennedy, 
Kindt, 
Korchinski, 
Kucherepa, 
Lafreniere, 
Lahaye, 
Lambert, 
Latour, 
Legere, 
Lennard, 
Macdonnell 

(Greenwood), 
MacEwan, 



Maclnnis, 
MacLean (Queens), 
MacLean (Winnipeg 

North Centre), 
Macquarrie,, 
MacRae, 
McBain, 
McCleave, 
McDonald 

(Hamilton South), 
McFarlane, 
McGrath, 
McGregor, 
McLennan, 
McPhillips, 
Martini, 
Matthews, 
Milligan, 
Montgomery, 
More, 
Morissette, 
Morris, 
Morton, 
Muir (Cape 

Breton North 

and Victoria), 
Muir (Lisgar), 
Nasserden, 
Noble, 
Nowlan, 
Nugent, 
O'Hurley, 
O'Leary, 
Ormiston, 
Pallett, 
Parizeau, 
Pascoe, 
Paul, 
Payne, 
Pigeon, 
Pratt, 
Pugh, 



Rapp, 
Regnier, 
Ricard, 
Richard 

(Kamouraska), 
Robinson, 
Rogers, 
Rompre, 
Rowe, 
Rynard, 
Sevigny, 
Simpson, 
Skoreyko, 
Smallwood, 
Smith (Lincoln), 
Smith (Simcoe 

North), 
Smith (Winnipeg 

North), 
Southam, 
Spencer, 
Starr, 
Stefanson, 
Stewart, 
Taylor, 
Thomas, 
Thompson, 
Thrasher, 
Tremblay, 
Valade, 
Villeneuve, 
Webb, 
Weichel, 
White, 
Winkler, 
Woolliams, 
Wratten— 146. 



Mr. Mcllraith, seconded by Mr. Martin (Essex East), moved, — That an 
humble Address be presented to His Excellency praying that he will cause to 
be laid before this House a copy of the long term Agreement signed by the 
Canadian Wheat Board and the China Resources Company covering the 
period June 1, 1961 to December 1963. — (Notice of Motion for the Production 
of Papers No. 6). 



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And the question being put on the said motion, it was negatived on the 
following division: 

Yeas 





Messrs: 




Allard, 


Crestohl, 


Lessard, 


Pickersgill, 


Badanai, 


Dumas, 


Loiselle, 


Pitman, 


Batten, 


Dupuis, 


Mcllraith, 


Richard 


Benidickson, 


Eudes, 


McMillan, 


(Saint-Maurice- 


Boivin, 


Forgie, 


McWilliam, 


Lafleche), 


Boulanger, 


Garland, 


Martin (Essex East), 


Roberge, 


Bourque, 


Godin, 


Martin (Timmins), 


Robichaud, 


Brassard 


Granger, 


Matheson, 


Rouleau, 


(Lapointe), 


Habel, 


Meunier, 


Tardif, 


Cardin, 


Herridge, 


Michaud, 


Tucker, 


Caron, 


Howard, 


Mitchell, 


Winch— 44. 


Carter, 


LaMarsh (Miss), 


Pearson, 






Nays 






Messrs: 




Aiken, 


Drouin, 


Lennard, 


Paul, 


Aitken (Miss), 


Drysdale, 


Macdonnell 


Payne, 


Barrington, 


Dubois, 


(Greenwood), 


Pigeon, 


Baskin, 


English, 


MacEwan, 


Pratt, 


Bell (Carleton), 


Fairclough (Mrs.), 


Maclnnis, 


Pugh, 


Bell (Saint John- 


Fairfield, 


MacLean (Queens), 


Rapp, 


Albert), 


Fane, 


MacLean (Winnipeg 


Regnier, 


Belzile, 


Fleming (Eglinton), 


North Centre), 


Ricard, 


Bigg, 


Fleming (Okanagan- 


Macquarrie, 


Richard 


Bourbonnais, 


Revelstoke), 


MacRae, 


(Kamouraska), 


Brassard 


Flemming (Royal), 


McBain, 


Robinson, 


(Chicoutimi), 


Flynn, 


McCleave, 


Rogers, 


Broome, 


Forbes, 


McDonald 


Rompre, 


Browne (St. John's 


Fortin, 


(Hamilton South), 


Rowe, 


West), 


Fulton, 


McFarlane, 


Rynard, 


Browne (Vancouver- 


Green, 


McGrath, 


Sevigny, 


Kingsway), 


Grills, 


McGregor, 


Simpson, 


Bruchesi, 


Gundlock, 


McLennan, 


Skoreyko, 


Brunsden, 


Hales, 


McPhillips, 


Smallwood, 


Cadieu, 


Halpenny, 


Martini, 


Smith (Lincoln), 


Campbell 


Hamilton 


Matthews, 


Smith (Simcoe 


(Lambton-Kent), 


(Notre-Dame- 


Milligan, 


North), 


Campbell 


de-Grace), 


Montgomery, 


Smith (Winnipeg 


(Stormont), 


Hanbidge, 


More, 


North), 


Cardiff, 


Henderson, 


Morissette, 


Southam, 


Casselman (Mrs.), 


Horner (Acadia), 


Morris, 


Spencer, 


Cathers, 


Horner 


Morton, 


Starr, 


Chambers, 


(The Battlefords), 


, Muir (Cape 


Stefanson, 


Charlton, 


Howe, 


Breton North 


Stewart, 


Chatterton, 


Johnson, 


and Victoria), 


Taylor, 


Churchill, 


Jorgenson, 


Muir (Lisgar), 


Thomas, 


Clancy, 


Keays, 


Nasserden, 


Thompson, 


Cooper, 


Kennedy, 


Noble, 


Thrasher, 


Creaghan, 


Kindt, 


Nowlan, 


Tremblay, 


Grouse, 


Korchinski, 


Nugent, 


Valade, 


Danforth, 


Kucherepa, 


O'Hurley, 


Villeneuve, 


Deschambault, 


Lafreniere, 


O'Leary, 


Webb, 


Diefenbaker, 


Lahaye, 


Ormiston, 


Weichel, 


Dinsdale, 


Lambert, 


Pallett, 


White, 


Dorion, 


Latour, 


Parizeau, 


Winkler, 


Doucett, 


Legere, 


Pascoe, 


Woolliams, 
Wratten— 147. 



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On motion of Mr. Paul for Mr. Martel, seconded by Mr. Payne, it was 
ordered, — That an humble Address be presented to His Excellency praying 
that he will cause to be laid before this House a copy of the correspondence 
exchanged between the federal government and the government of the Prov- 
ince of Quebec, relating to the present Winter Works Program. — (Notice of 
Motion for the Production of Papers No. 15). 



By unanimous consent, Mr. Diefenbaker, a Member of the Queen's Privy 
Council, laid before the House, — Text of a Note from the Chairman of the 
Council of Ministers of the U.S.S.R., N. S. Khrushchov, to the Prime Minister 
of Canada, dated February 11, 1962. (English and French). 



The House resumed debate on the proposed motion of Mr. Churchill, 
seconded by Mr. Starr, — That Bill C-64, An Act to amend the Civilian War 
Pensions and Allowances Act, be now read a second time. 

After further debate, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to on the following division: 

Yeas 



Messrs: 



Aiken, 

Aitken (Miss), 

Allard, 

Allmark, 

Badanai, 

Barrington, 

Baskin, 

Batten, 

Bell (Carleton), 

Bell (Saint John- 
Albert), 

Belzile, 

Benidickson, 

Bigg, 

Boivin, 

Boulanger, 

Bourbonnais, 

Bourque, 

Brassard 
(Lapointe), 

Broome, 

Browne (St. John's 
West), 

Browne (Vancouver- 
Kingsway), 

Bruchesi, 

Brunsden, 

Cadieu, 

Campbell 

(Lambton-Kent), 

Campbell, 
(Stormont), 

Cardiff, 

Cardin, 

Caron, 

Carter, 



Casselman (Mrs.), 

Cathers, 

Chambers, 

Charlton, 

Chatterton, 

Churchill, 

Clancy, 

Clermont, 

Cooper, 

Creaghan, 

Crestohl, 

Crouse, 

Danforth, 

Deschambault, 

Deschatelets, 

Dinsdale, 

Dorion, 

Doucett, 

Drouin, 

Drysdale, 

Dubois, 

Dumas, 

Dupuis, 

English, 

Eudes, 

Fairclough (Mrs.), 

Fairfield, 

Fane, 

Fleming (Eglinton), 

Fleming (Okanagan- 

Revelstoke), 
Flemming (Royal), 
Flynn, 
Forbes, 
Forgie, 
Fortin, 



Fulton, 

Garland, 

Godin, 

Granger, 

Green, 

Grills, 

Gundlock, 

Habel, 

Hales, 

Halpenny, 

Hanbidge, 

Henderson, 

Herridge, 

Horner (Acadia), 

Horner 

(The Battlefords), 
Howe, 
Johnson, 
Jorgenson, 
Jung, 
Kennedy, 
Kindt, 
Knowles, 
Korchinski, 
Lafreniere, 
Lahaye, 

LaMarsh (Miss), 
Lambert, 
LaRue, 
Latour, 
Legere, 
Lennard, 
Lessard, 
Loiselle, 
Macdonnell 

(Greenwood), 



MacEwan, 
Maclnnis, 
MacLean (Queens), 
MacLean (Winnipeg 

North Centre), 
Macquarrie, 
MacRae, 
McBain, 
McCleave, 
McDonald 

(Hamilton South), 
McFarlane, 
McGrath, 
McGregor, 
Mcllraith, 
Mcintosh, 
McLennan, 
McMillan, 
McPhillips, 
McQuillan, 
McWilliam, 
Mandziuk, 
Martin (Essex East), 
Martin (Timmins), 
Martini, 
Matheson, 
Matthews, 
Meunier, 
Michaud, 
Milligan, 
Mitchell, 
Montgomery, 
More, 
Morissette, 
Morris, 
Morton, 



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Muir (Cape 
Breton North 
and Victoria), 

Muir (Lisgar), 

Nasserden, 

Noble, 

Nowlan, 

Nugent, 

O'Hurley, 

O'Leary, 

Ormiston, 

Pallett, 

Parizeau, 

Pascoe, 

Paul, 

Payne, 

Pearson, 



Peters, 

Pickersgill, 

Pigeon, 

Pitman, 

Pratt, 

Pugh, 

Rapp, 

Regnier, 

Ricard, 

Richard 

Kamouraska), 
Richard 

(Ottawa East), 
Richard 

(Saint-Maurice- 

Lafleche), 
Robichaud. 



Robinson, 

Rogers, 

Rompre, 

Rouleau, 

Rowe, 

Rynard, 

Simpson, 

Skoreyko, 

Smallwood, 

Smith (Simcoe 

North), 
Smith (Winnipeg 

North), 
Southam, 
Spencer, 
Starr, 



Stefanson, 

Stewart, 

Tardif, 

Taylor, 

Thomas, 

Thompson, 

Thrasher, 

Tremblay, 

Tucker, 

Villeneuve, 

Webb, 

Weichel, 

White, 

Winkler, 

Woolliams, 

Wratten— 191. 



Nays — Nil. 



Accordingly, the said bill was read the second time and ordered for 
consideration in Committee of the Whole at the next sitting of the House. 



(At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Private Members' Business was called pursuant to 
Standing Order 15(3) as provisionally amended) 

(Notices of Motions) 

Mr. Regnier, seconded by Mr. Weichel, moved, — That, in the opinion of 
this House, the government should consider the advisability of introducing a 
measure to provide for a referendum concerning the adoption of a Canadian 
flag. 

That the question submitted in said referendum be as follows: — Are you 
in favour of a flag for Canada which would not include the emblem of any 
other country? — (Notice of Motion No. 6). 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 

A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Senate had passed the following bills without amendment: 
Bill C-54, An Act to amend the Old Age Security Act. 
Bill C-55, An Act to amend the Old Age Assistance Act. 
Bill C-56, An Act to amend the Blind Persons Act. 
Bill C-62, An Act to amend the Disabled Persons Act. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Dorion, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Return to an 
Order of the House, dated February 5, 1962, (Question No. 29) showing: 



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1. Was any land in the vicinity of Bank Street and Riverside Drive, Ottawa 
(lots 18, 19 and 20, Junction Gore, Gloucester Township), sold by the Crown 
or Crown Assets Disposal Corporation since January 1, 1959? 

2. If so, what quantity, at what price, and to whom? 

3. Was the land advertised for sale and, if so, through what media? 

4. By what method was this land sold? 

By Mr. Dorion, — Return to an Order of the House, dated February 7, 
1962, (Question No. 113) showing: 1. What was the total enrolment in voca- 
tional training at the secondary school level in Ontario as of December 31, 
1960? 

2. What was the total capacity of institutions offering vocational training 
at the secondary school level in Ontario as of December 31, 1960? 

3. What was the total number of new vocational or vocational wings to 
existing institutions, at the secondary school level, approved by the federal 
government for 75% grant as of December 31, 1961? 

4. What will be the maximum enrolment possible for these vocational 
schools already approved? 

5. How many students graduated in woodworking in the vocational second- 
ary schools in Ontario in the year 1961? 

6. How many woodworking shops in Ontario vocational secondary schools, 
or new wings of such institutions, have been approved by the federal govern- 
ment in 1961? 

By the Examiner of Petitions for Private Bills, — First Report, pursuant 
to Standing Order 100(2), as follows: 

The Examiner of Petitions for Private Bills has the honour to report that 
the following petitioners for divorce Acts have complied with the requirements 
of Standing Order 96: 

Dorothy Irene Marjorie Hunt Adams, wife of Merrill Karn Adams of St. 
Jean, Quebec. 

Demetre Almyriotis of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Evanthia Stamelos 
Almyriotis. 

Anne Marie Perrozzino Asselin, wife of Roger Asselin of Montreal, Quebec. 

Sylvia Taliercio Aucoin, wife of John Charles Aucoin of Montreal, Quebec. 

Sonja Swerzowa Bagry, wife of Ignaz Bagry of Montreal, Quebec. 

Iva Annett Baumgartner, wife of Peter Baumgartner of Montreal, Quebec. 

Marie Jeanne Dumont Beaulieu, wife of J. E. Roger Bernard Beaulieu of 
Montreal, Quebec. 

Paul-Aime Bedard of the Province of Quebec, husband of Jean Shirley 
Yvonne Carter Bedard. 

Jacqueline Dumontet Belanger, wife of Marcel Belanger of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Gladys Ethel Sarah Baker Bergeron, wife of Philip Joseph Bergeron of 
Montreal, Quebec. 



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124 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

Joseph Jean-Paul Fernand Blanchette of St. Jerome, Quebec, husband of 
Marie Jeanne Charbonneau Blanchette. 

June Blickstead, wife of Ralph Blickstead of Montreal, Quebec. 

Gizella Ethel Nagy Bogoly, wife of Louis Bogoly, junior, of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Simonne Michele Mona Routier Bouchard, wife of Jacques Bouchard of 
Montreal, Quebec. 

Claire Detwiler Bradford, wife of Elwood Joseph Bradford of Beaconsfield, 
Quebec. 

Gerhard Hermann Buchholz of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Ingrid 
Koenig Buchholz. 

Eileen Myrtle Elliott Burns, wife of James Berkeley Burns of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Lorraine Bastien Burt, wife of Harold Edmund Burt of Montreal, Quebec. 

Bruce Reid Campbell of Westmount, Quebec, husband of June Ethel Phyllis 
Barton Campbell. 

Francoise Hebert Campion, wife of Kenneth Rea Campion of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Judith Elizabeth Stacey Caron, wife of Norman Michael Caron of Mont- 
real, Quebec. 

Robert Charles Chapman of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Mary Jane 
Griffin Chapman. 

Rosemary Beatrice Overett Clare, wife of Derek Clare of Outremont, 
Quebec. 

Anita Duguay Cleri, wife of Vinicio Cleri of Montreal, Quebec. 

Margot Scott Bradley Connor, wife of David James Connor of the Town 
of Mount Royal, Quebec. 

Guiseppe de Cristofaro of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Brigide Roy de 
Cristofaro. 

Elsie Jean Oakley Delisle, wife of Leo Roger Delisle of Montreal, Quebec. 

Gladys Jean Assaf Desjardins, wife of Joseph Julien Leopold Desjardins 
of Ste. Therese, Quebec. 

Louise Lamarre Doyle, wife of John Harold Doyle of Montreal, Quebec. 

Marie Claire Rollande Laporte Dubois, wife of Lorenzo Dubois of Mont- 
real, Quebec. 

Hazel Weir Durocher, wife of Georges Durocher of Montreal, Quebec. 

Rose Gratton Duval, wife of Aurele Duval of Montreal, Quebec. 

Joseph Arthur Norman William Edwards of LaSalle, Quebec, husband of 
Muriel Joyce Bray Edwards. 

Joyce Ethel Martin Empey, wife of John Franklyn Empey of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Jean Alexandria MacPhail Etheridge, wife of Kenneth Charles Etheridge 
of St. Eustache-sur-le-Lac, Quebec. 

John Faucher of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Marion Gardner Faucher. 

Marie Gertrude Helene Richer Flamme, wife of Christian Alain Flamme 
of Montreal, Quebec. 

Alethea Arnold Fowler, wife of Irwin Fowler of Baldwin Mills, Quebec. 

Jeannine Fauteux Furoy, wife of Edward Furoy of Montreal, Quebec. 

Herve Gauthier of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Carmen Sicard Gauthier. 






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Josephine Isabella Irvine Geiger, wife of Eric A. Geiger of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Kate Lester Gillman, wife of Saul Gillman of Montreal, Quebec. 

Gilles Graveline of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Marielle Demers Gra- 
veline. 

Catherine Mildred Fogarty Gray, wife of George Robert Gray of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Olga Komretsky Hagg, wife of Frank Hagg of Montreal, Quebec. 

John Harman of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Ann Frogley Harman. 

Gerald William Henderson of Bristol, Quebec, husband of Eileen Elizabeth 
Laframboise Henderson. 

Germaine Marie Therese Dubeau Hinksman, wife of John Hugh Dodd 
Hinksman of St. Lambert, Quebec. 

Lise Lamer Hogue, wife of Alain Hogue of Montreal, Quebec. 

Felix Hollinger of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Adeline Ruskin Hollinger. 

Dorothy Doreen Bertram Howell, wife of William Alfred Howell of West- 
mount, Quebec. 

John Joseph Huitson of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Denise Noel Huitson. 

Harry Hyman of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Rose Terese Emond Hyman. 

Regina Brauner Kamin, wife of Isak (Jack) Kamin of Montreal, Quebec. 

Cacilie Johanna Friederike Hagedorn Kaatz, wife of Herbert Kaatz of 
St. Laurent, Quebec. 

Lily (Laura) Anita Stubina Karbelnik, wife of Louis Edward Karbelnik 
of St. Laurent, Quebec. 

Margaret Anna Varga Kenwood, wife of Ronald Albert Kenwood of 
Montreal, Quebec. 

Gabriela Meislova Kiwitt, wife of William Kiwitt of Beaurepaire, Quebec. 

Maurice Le Bel of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Yvonne Desalliers Le Bel. 

Stella Proctor Leblanc, wife of Bernard Leblanc of Montreal, Quebec. 

Celia Mucznik Lesnik, wife of Borys Lesnik of Montreal, Quebec. 

Margaret Ada Edwards Lewis, wife of Gilbert Stephen Lewis of St. Lau- 
rent, Quebec. 

Marsha Mendelman Liberman, wife of Saul Liberman of Montreal, Quebec. 

Sheila Izenberg Liebling, wife of Gilbert Liebling of Montreal, Quebec. 

Fernande Carloni Mandanici, wife of Dante Mandanici alias Denis Man- 
denice of Montreal, Quebec. 

Edward Sidney Mansfield of the Town of Bois de Filion, Quebec, husband 
of Dorothea Lyon Innes Mansfield. 

Dawn Dorothea Armstrong Marsden, wife of Ross John Chambers Marsden 
of St. Eustache-sur-le-Lac, Quebec. 

Anna Luella Zacharias Matthews, wife of Ronald Rupert Matthews of 
Montreal, Quebec. 

Mildred Dawson Larmonth Meakins, wife of Jonathan Fayette Meakins 
of Montreal, Quebec. 

John Andrew Milne of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Doris Robertson 
Milne. 

Gladys Noreen Hill Monette, wife of John James Monette of Montreal, 
Quebec. 



126 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

Josephine Suhr Deems Moseley, wife of Herbert Frederick Moseley of 
Westmount, Quebec. 

Shirley Guss Moss, wife of Monty Moss of Cote St. Luc, Quebec. 

Doreen Eleanor Bishop Mulcahy, wife of Stanley Leo Francis Mulcahy 
of Montreal, Quebec. 

Elsa Trolle Munch, wife of Arne Munch of Dorval, Quebec. 

Micheline Bastien McGuire, wife of Andre McGuire of Montreal, Quebec. 

Sandra E. Haan McVety, wife of John A. McVety of Montreal, Quebec. 

Frances Cynthia Beloff Nevitt, wife of Joshua Nevitt of Montreal, Quebec. 

Pay el Olejnik of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Maria Bzik Olejnik. 

Giovanni Pallotta of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Gerarda Delia Zaz- 
zera Pallotta. 

Clara Edith Laszlo Papp, wife of Otto Papp of Montreal, Quebec. 

Joan Mary Graham Pearson, wife of Richard Hammond Pearson of Mont- 
real, Quebec. 

Suzi Elizabeth Locke Perry, wife of Robert Arnold Perry of the Town of 
St. Bruno, Quebec. 

Lena Bruyn Quelle, wife of Hendricus Johanns Quelle of Montreal, Quebec. 

Joyce Evelyn Mackie Ranger, wife of Joseph Paul Emille Nelson of Riviere 
Beaudette, Quebec. 

Elizabeth Shaw Fisher Wolfe Reid, wife of Kenneth Allan Reid of Mont- 
real, Quebec. 

Hale Calvin Reid of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Geraldine Margaret 
Ouellette Reid. 

Monique Fournier Remy, wife of Edouard Remy of St. Marc-sur-Richelieu, 
Quebec. 

Marcel Renaut of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Ruby Marie Bradbury 
Renaut. 

Jean Alice Beswick Rinder, wife of Leonard Rinder of Montreal, Quebec. 

Irene Gargano Ross, wife of Stanley Ross of Montreal, Quebec. 

Nellie Rosen Rothman, wife of Charles Rothman of Westmount, Quebec. 

Gerda-Sascha Slosarczyk Rozwadowski, wife of Jerzy Rozwadowski of 
St. Laurent, Quebec. 

Gerda Margarete Brodersen Ruhnau, wife of Willi Gustave Ruhnau of 
Montreal, Quebec. 

Beverly Anne Bishop Runions, wife of Harold Kenneth Runions of Sher- 
brooke, Quebec. 

Lorna Greenberg Scherzer, wife of Paul Scherzer of Montreal, Quebec. 

Cynthia Elsie Scott, wife of Marcel Sinclair Scott of Montreal, Quebec. 

Agnes Irene Groundwater Seaman, wife of Terence John Wendell Seaman 
of Montreal, Quebec. 

Blima (Wendy) Weitzman Shapiro, wife of Harry (Hirsh) Shapiro of 
Montreal, Quebec. 

Jeannine Elizabeth Buchanan Sharpe, wife of Theodore Sharpe of Mont- 
real, Quebec. 

Lloyd James Simpson of Ste. Anne de Bellevue, Quebec, husband of Hazel 
Weston Kindred Simpson. 



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Marion Ruth Catherine Harding Slattery, wife of Edward Michael Slattery 
of Verdun, Quebec. 

Rolland Souliere of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Henriette Lefebvre 
Souliere. 

Myrtle Alice Carr Southwood, wife of Harold Thomas Southwood of 
Sherbrooke, Quebec. 

Sylvia Bertha Schneider Spires, wife of John Joseph Spires of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Leomay Marie Blanche Chouinard Chilco Stratton, wife of James Martin 
Stratton of Montreal, Quebec. 

Marketa Langer Tata, wife of Saam Tata of Montreal, Quebec. 

Donat Theriault of Ste. Therese-de-Blainville, Quebec, husband of Anne 
Turgeon Theriault. 

Isadore Titleman of Outremont, Quebec, husband of Marion Ganstil 
Titleman. 

Glen Stewart Small Tornay, wife of Edgar Tornay of Montreal, Quebec. 

Beverley Maron Trachtenberg, wife of Arthur Trachtenberg, also known 
as Tratt, of Montreal, Quebec. 

Alma Dupuis Tremblay, wife of Marcel Tremblay of Montreal, Quebec. 

Lygery Papademetriou Varverikos, wife of Emmanuel Varverikos of 
Montreal, Quebec. 

Marie-Jeanne Pare Vezeau, wife of Joseph Vezeau of Montreal, Quebec. 

Helene Denise Quintal Vien, wife of Jean Thomas Vien of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Barbara Ann Tivy Wallace, wife of Kenneth William Wallace of St. 
Lambert, Quebec. 

Linnea Erna Barbara Gussow Walker, wife of Henry Normand Walker 
of Baie d'Urfe, Quebec. 

William Metcalfe Watt of Laval West, Quebec, husband of Rosemary 
Evelyn MacCartney Watt. 

Mary Catherine Mullins Weatherby, wife of Martin Weir Weatherby of 
Verdun, Quebec. 

Esther Sheps Wertheimer, wife of William Wertheimer of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Alexandra May Westover, wife of Gerald Sydney Westover of Austin, 
Quebec. 

Miriam Fairbairn White, wife of Matthew White of Montreal, Quebec. 

James Richard Williamson of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Claire Morin 
Williamson. 

Lily Heyes Worthington, wife of Ronald Worthington of Ville LaSalle, 
Quebec. 

Franz Zeitlhofer of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Theresia Maria Sum- 
merer Zeitlhofer. 

Rachele Landau Zimber, wife of Leo Zimber of Montreal, Quebec. 

By the Examiner of Petitions for Private Bills, — Second Report, pursuant 
to Standing Order 100(2), as follows: 

The Examiner of Petitions for Private Bills has the honour to report that 
the following petitioners for Acts to annul their marriage have complied with 
the requirements of Standing Order 96: 

Paul-Emile Niquette of Sorel, Quebec, husband of Gisele Desrosiers Ni- 
quette. 



128 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

Margaret Catherine Mann Smith, wife of Douglas Kerr Smith of St. 
Lambert, Quebec. 



At 6.03 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until tomorrow at 2.30 o'clock p.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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No. 21 

JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, THURSDAY, 15th FEBRUARY, 1962. 

2.30 o'clock p.m. 



Prayers. 



Five petitions for Private Bills were presented in accordance with Stand- 
ing Order 70(1). 



Mr. Speaker communicated to the House the following letter: 

GOVERNMENT HOUSE 
OTTAWA 

15th February, 1962. 

Sir, 

I have the honour to inform you that the Honourable Robert Taschereau, 
Judge of the Supreme Court of Canada, acting as Deputy to His Excellency 
the Governor-General, will proceed to the Senate Chamber the 15th February, 
1962, at 5.45 p.m., for the purpose of giving Royal Assent to certain bills. 

I have the honour to be, 

Sir, 

Your obedient servant, 

ESMOND BUTLER, 
Secretary to the Governor-General. 

The Honourable, 

The Speaker of the House of Commons. 

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130 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

Mr. Howe, from the Standing Committee on Railways, Canals and Tele- 
graph Lines, presented the First Report of the said Committee, which was 
read as follows: 

Your Committee recommends: 

1. That it be empowered to print such papers and evidence as may be 
ordered by the Committee, and that Standing Order 66 be suspended in rela- 
tion thereto; 

2. That its quorum be reduced from 20 to 15 Members, and that Standing 
Order 65(1) (b) be suspended in relation thereto; 

3. That it be given leave to sit while the House is sitting. 

By unanimous consent, on motion of Mr. Howe, seconded by Mr. Robinson, 
the said Report was concurred in, on division. 



Mr. Howe, from the Standing Committee on Railways, Canals and Tele- 
graph Lines, presented the Second Report of the said Committee, which is as 
follows: 

Your Committee has considered the following bills and has agreed to report 
them without amendment: 

Bill C-48, An Act to amend An Act respecting the Construction of a line 
of railway by Canadian National Railway Company from Optic Lake to Chisel 
Lake, and the Purchase by Canadian National Railway Company from The 
International Nickel Company of Canada, Limited, of a line of railway from 
Sipiwesk to a point on Burntwood River near Mystery Lake, all in the 
Province of Manitoba. 

Bill C-63, An Act respecting the Construction of a line of railway in the 
Province of Alberta by Canadian National Railway Company from Whitecourt, 
Alberta, in a westerly direction for a distance of approximately 23.2 miles to 
the property of Pan American Petroleum Corporation. 

A copy of the Minutes of Proceedings and Evidence relating to these bills 
(Issue No. 2) is appended. 

(The Minutes of Proceedings and Evidence accompanying the said Report 
recorded as Appendix No. 1 to the Journals) 



Mr. Diefenbaker, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, laid before the 
House, — Text of a Note from the Prime Minister of Canada to the Chairman of 
the Council of Ministers of the U.S.S.R., N. S. Khrushchov, dated February 14, 
1962. (English and French). 



Bill C-64, An Act to amend the Civilian War Pensions and Allowances 
Act, was considered in Committee of the Whole, reported without amend- 
ment, read the third time and passed. 



The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-65, An Act to amend 
the Children of War Dead (Education Assistance) Act; 

Mr. Churchill, seconded by Mr. Hees, moved, — That the said bill be now 
read a second time. 



A.D. 1962 THURSDAY, 15th FEBRUARY 131 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 

Accordingly, the said bill was read the second time, considered in Com- 
mittee of the Whole, reported without amendment, and ordered for a third 
reading at the next sitting of the House. 

The House resolved itself into Committee of the Whole to consider a 
certain proposed resolution to amend the Export Credits Insurance Act; 

And the House continuing in Committee; 

At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker took the Chair. 



A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Senate had passed the following bills without amendment: 
Bill C-36, An Act to amend the War Service Grants Act. 
Bill C-37, An Act to amend the Veterans Insurance Act. 



A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Senate had passed the following bills to which the concurrence of this House 
is desired: 

Bill SD-1, An Act for the relief of Madeleine Francoise Hankowski. 
— Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-2, An Act for the relief of Bruce Reid Campbell.— Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-3, An Act for the relief of William Metcalfe Watt. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-4, An Act for the relief of Giovanni Pallotta. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-5, An Act for the relief of Mildred Dawson Meakins. — Mr. 
McCleave. 

Bill SD-6, An Act for the relief of Marion Ruth Catherine Slattery. 
— Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-7, An Act for the relief of Sonja Bagry. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-8, An Act for the relief of Lena Quelle.— Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-9, An Act for the relief of Franz Zeitlhofer. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-10, An Act for the relief of John Harman. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-11, An Act for the relief of Esther Wertheimer. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-1 2, An Act for the relief of Rachela Zimber. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-13, An Act for the relief of Alethea Sarah Ivy Fowler.— Mr. 
McCleave. 

Bill SD-14, An Act for the relief of Rosemary Beatrice Clare. — Mr. 
McCleave. 

Bill S-D-15, An Act for the relief of Isadore Titleman. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-1 6, An Act for the relief of Agnes Irene Seaman. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-1 7, An Act for the relief of Margaret Ada Lewis. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-1 8, An Act for the relief of Beverley Trachtenberg, otherwise 
known as Beverley Tratt. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-1 9, An Act for the relief of Demetre Almyriqtis. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-20, An Act for the relief of Cynthia Elsie Scott.— Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-21, An Act for the relief of June Blickstead.— Mr. McCleave. 

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132 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

Bill SD-22, An Act for the relief of Stella Leblanc— Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-23, An Act for the relief of Gerda-Sascha Rozwadowski.— Mr. 
McCleave. 

Bill SD-24, An Act for the relief of Josephine Isabella Geiger. — Mr. 
McCleave. 

Bill SD-25, An Act for the relief of Margarete Gerda Ruhnau.— Mr. 
McCleave. 

Bill SD-26, An Act for the relief of Margaret Catherine Smith.— Mr. 
McCleave. 

Bill SD-27, An Act for the relief of Marie Gertrude Helene Flamme. 
— Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-28, An Act for the relief of Kate Gillman.— Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-29, An Act for the relief of Barbara Ann Wallace. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-30, An Act for the relief of Lise Hogue. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-31, An Act for the relief of Marie Claire Rolande Dubois. 
— Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-32, An Act for the relief of Sheila Liebling. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-33, An Act for the relief of Elizabeth Shaw Fisher Reid— Mr. 
McCleave. 

Bill SD-34, An Act for the relief of Marie Jeanne Beaulieu. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-35, An Act for the relief of Maurice LeBel. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-36, An Act for the relief of Gilles Graveline.— Mr. McCleave. 

The said bills were deemed to have been read the first time and ordered 
for a second reading at the next sitting of the House pursuant to Standing 
Order 103(2). 

A Message was received from the Senate communicating to this House the 
evidence taken and the papers produced in respect of the above-mentioned 
divorce bills, with a request that the said evidence and papers be returned to 
the Senate. 



(Private Members' Business was called pursuant to Standing Order 15(3) 
as provisionally amended) 

(Public Bills) 

The Order for second reading of Bill C-8, An Act to amend the Interest 
Act, having been read and not proceeded with, it dropped to the foot of the 
list on the Order Paper. 



The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-9, An Act to 
amend the Railway Act; 

Mr. Browne (Vancouver-Kingsway), seconded by Mr. Brunsden, moved, 
— That the said bill be now read a second time. 

And debate arising thereon; the said debate was interrupted. 



A Message was received from the Honourable Mr. Justice Robert Tasche- 
reau, acting as Deputy to His Excellency the Governor-General, desiring the 
immediate attendance of the House in the Senate Chamber. 



A.D. 1962 THURSDAY, 15th FEBRUARY 133 

Accordingly, Mr. Speaker with the House went to the Senate Chamber. 
And being returned; 



Mr. Speaker reported that, when the House did attend the Honourable 
the Deputy to His Excellency the Governor-General in the Senate Chamber, 
His Honour was pleased to give, in Her Majesty's name, the Royal Assent to 
the following bills: 

An Act to amend the Old Age Security Act. 

An Act to amend the Old Age Assistance Act. 

An Act to amend the Blind Persons Act. 

An Act to amend the Disabled Persons Act. 

An Act to amend the War Service Grants Act. 

An Act to amend the Veterans Insurance Act. 



The House resumed consideration in Committee of the Whole of a certain 
proposed resolution to amend the Export Credits Insurance Act. 

(In the Committee) 

The following resolution was adopted: 

Resolved, — That it is expedient to introduce a measure to amend the 
Export Credits Insurance Act to increase the maximum liability at any time 
of importers under outstanding instruments the payment of which is 
guaranteed by the Corporation under section 21a of the Act, from $200,000,000 
to $300,000,000; and to provide further for a certain change in connection with 
the administration of the Act. 

Resolution to be reported. 



The said resolution was reported and concurred in. 



Mr. Hees, seconded by Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), by leave of the House, 
presented Bill C-68, An Act to amend the Export Credits Insurance Act, 
which was read the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next 
sitting of the House. 



By unanimous consent, Mr. Hees, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, 
laid before the House, — Export Credits Insurance Corporation Table of Pre- 
liminary Amounts, by Countries, of Actual Insured Exports based upon Policy- 
Holders' Declaration of Contracts and Shipments during the calendar year 
1961. 



The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-49, An Act to 
amend the Small Businesses Loans Act; 

Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), seconded by Mr. Fulton, moved, — That the said 
bill be now read a second time. 

And debate arising thereon; the said debate was interrupted at ten o'clock. 



134 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Balcer, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, by command of 
His Excellency the Governor-General, — Report of the Department of Trans- 
port for the year ended March 31, 1961, pursuant to section 34 of the Depart- 
ment of Transport Act, chapter 79, R.S.C., 1952. (English and French). 

By Mr. Dorion, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Return to an 
Address, dated January 31, 1962, to His Excellency the Governor- General 
(Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers No. 1) for a copy of all cor- 
respondence between the Prime Minister of Canada and the Premier of the 
Province of Quebec concerning University grants since January 1, 1961. 

By Mr. Dorion, — Return to an Order of the House, dated February 7, 1962, 
(Question No. 112) showing: 1. How many communities were carrying on 
courses for unemployed persons under Schedule M to the Agreements under 
the Technical and Vocational Training Assistance Act as of December 1, 1961? 

2. What were the names of these communities, and how many persons 
were being trained in each case? 

3. What courses of instruction were being offered in each of these com- 
munities, and how many persons were being trained in each of these courses? 

4. What was the total cost of the program in the year 1961? 

By Mr. Monteith (Perth), a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — 
Report of Expenditures and Administration in connection with the Unemploy- 
ment Assistance Act for the year ended March 31, 1961, pursuant to section 
9 of the said Act, chapter 26, Statutes of Canada, 1956. (English and French). 

Fifth Report of the Clerk of Petitions, pursuant to Standing Order 70(7), 
as follows: — 

The Clerk of Petitions has the honour to report that the petitions of the 
following for divorce Acts, presented on February 14 by Mr. McCleave, meet 
the requirements of Standing Order 70: 

Roger Bernard Angel of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Marie Yvonne 
Suzanne Boyer Angel. 

Denise Vezeau Bachelder, wife of Stanley John Arthur Bachelder of the 
Town of Rougemont, Quebec. 

Richard Price Bradley of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Joan Allen 
Bradley. 

Marjorie McEachern Brown, wife of Arnold Galbraith Brown of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Collin Mills Campbell of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Barbara June 
Jones Campbell. 

Lucien Decoeur of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Rachel Belanger De- 
coeur. 

Roland Demers of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Pierrette Mercier Demers. 

Anita Margaret Steele d'Esterre, wife of Robert Duncan d'Esterre of 
Beaconsfield, Quebec. 

Rosemary Louise di Gravina Eakins, wife of Peter Russell Eakins of 
Montreal, Quebec. 

Mary Sheppard Gallagher, wife of Thomas Joseph Gallagher of St. John's, 
Newfoundland. 



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Amy Sandra Jaques Glendinning, wife of Gerald Ronald Glendinning 
of Hudson, Quebec. 

Lucille Issenman Goresky, wife of Irving Goresky of Montreal, Quebec. 

Wilhelmina Morrison Grundy, wife of George William Grundy of Verdun, 
Quebec. 

Madeleine Francoise Patenaude Hankowski, wife of Jan Paul Hankowski 
of the Province of Quebec. 

Patricia McKernan Hilton, wife of Brian Hilton of Montreal, Quebec. 

Marie Joan Patricia Romano Jeffries, wife of Joseph William Jeffries of 
Montreal, Quebec. 

Joseph Marcel Andre Laforge of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Marie 
Alice Boilard Laforge. 

Geralde Boucher Lalonde, wife of Roger Rene Lalonde of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Paulyne Gagnon Leblanc, wife of Andre Leblanc of Montreal, Quebec. 

Martin Simeon Levy of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Inge Hansen Larsen 
Levy. 

William John Loke of Pierrefonds, Quebec, husband of Verna Irene Loke. 

John Loughheed (Lougheed) of Lachine, Quebec, husband of Carmen 
Marceau Loughheed (Lougheed). 

George Mantadakis of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Paraskevi Dogatzi 
Mantadakis. 

Stanley Monks of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Elizabeth Crosby Monks. 

Kathleen Alice Priestley Morrow, wife of Harold Morrow of Beaurepaire, 
Quebec. 

Marie Antoinette Germaine Corbeil Mouton, wife of Maurice Joseph Mouton 
of Montreal, Quebec. 

Betty Beare O'Neil, wife of Garth O'Neil of Ville LaSalle, Quebec. 

Rosi Irma Koetke Parrouty, wife of Andre Parrouty of Montreal, Quebec. 

Madge Estelle Druce Pinkerton, wife of Robert Pinkerton of Ville Lemoyne, 
Quebec. 

Louisa Emily Elizabeth Stevens Porter, wife of John Andrew Porter of 
the Province of Quebec. 

Jacqueline Henriette Demelin Pujol, wife of Vincent Joseph Pujol of 
Montreal, Quebec. 

David Filmore Sadler of the Province of Quebec, husband of Nancy Agnes 
Sanborn Sadler. 

Ivy Elizabeth Jacques Sherry, wife of Henry Edward Sherry of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Barbara Ann Bell Sobrian, wife of Merlyn Arnold Sobrian of Shawinigan 
Falls, Quebec. 

Edith Mary Seymour-Higgins Thorn, wife of William Wylie Thorn of 
Montreal, Quebec. 

By the Examiner of Petitions for Private Bills, — Third Report, pursuant 
to Standing Order 100(2), as follows: 

The Examiner of Petitions for Private Bills has the honour to report that 
the following petitioners have complied with the requirements of Standing 
Order 96: 

Beatrice Harriet Cohen and two others, all of the City of Winnipeg, 
Manitoba, for an Act to incorporate Brock Acceptance Limited. 



136 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

John David Friesen of the City of Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, and two 
others, for an Act to incorporate Evangelical Mennonite Mission Conference. 

Andrew Osher Schwartz and two others, all of the City of Winnipeg, 
Manitoba, for an Act to incorporate Gerand Acceptance Company. 

The Mutual Life Assurance Company of Canada for an Act to amend its 
Act of Incorporation authorizing the Company to use, in the transaction 
of its business, either the name "The Mutual Life Assurance Company" or 
the name "La Mutual Life, compagnie d'assurance du Canada". 

Joseph Dickstein and Denis Dennis, of the City of Montreal, Quebec, and 
three others, for an Act to incorporate Westmount Life Insurance Company. 

By the Examiner of Petitions for Private Bills, — Fourth Report, pursuant 
to Standing Order 100(2), as follows: 

The Examiner of Petitions for Private Bills has the honour to report that 
the following petitioners for divorce Acts have complied with the requirements 
of Standing Order 96: 

Denise Vezeau Bachelder, wife of Stanley John Arthur Bachelder of the 
Town of Rougemont, Quebec. 

Percy Beauvais of St. Laurent, Quebec, husband of Mary Letitia Mc- 
Kenzie Beauvais. 

Jean-Robert Boucher of St. Laurent, Quebec, husband of Gisele Brisebois 
Boucher. 

Edward Brown of Dorval, Quebec, husband of Ginette Cameron Brown. 

Anita Margaret Steele d'Esterre, wife of Robert Duncan d'Esterre of 
Beaconsfield, Quebec. 

Ruth Ilona Mickley Elkin, wife of Sidney Elkin of Montreal, Quebec. 

Dorothy Gladys Keane Faucher, wife of Alfred Faucher of Westmount, 
Quebec. 

Lucille Issenman Goresky, wife of Irving Goresky of Montreal, Quebec. 

Dorothy Minchinton Frederick, wife of Francis George Frederick, alias 
Frank Phillips of Montreal, Quebec. 

Therese Lambert Genest, wife of Claude Genest of Westmount, Quebec. 

Nicole Marie Pineau Geoffroy, wife of Bernard Marcel Geoffroy of Mont- 
real, Quebec. 

Madeleine Francoise Patenaude Hankowski, wife of Jan Paul Hankowski 
of the Province of Quebec. 

Elizabeth Boulay Gray, wife of Robert Gray of Montreal, Quebec. 

George Hann of Lewisporte, Newfoundland, husband of Lavinia Pearl 
Canning Hann. 

Christine Viger Johnson, wife of Harteny Lawrence Johnson of Valois, 
Quebec. 

Dora Elfriede Elizabeth Christian Jacobi Kovacs, wife of Lajos Louis 
Kovacs, alias Kovac of Montreal, Quebec. 

Joan Jeanette Hazlett Krautle, wife of Karl Otto Krautle of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Maria Jeney Lenkei, wife of Francois Ferenc Lenkei (Leichtag) of Mont- 
real, Quebec. 

Valerie Jean Arnott Morton, wife of John Ure Morton of Verdun, Quebec. 



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Ellen Chase Biggar McKellar, wife of Bruce McKellar of Montreal, Quebec. 

Georgine Jun Plzak, wife of Bohumil Plzak of Sutton, Quebec. 

Geraldine Ludgarde Pineault Romer, wife of Joseph Frank Romer of 
Chomeday South, Quebec. 

Marcelle Guedj Rosenberg, wife of Salomon Rosenberg of Montreal, Quebec. 

Elizabeth Lillian Banks Small, wife of Richard William Small of Chateau- 
guay, Quebec. 

Elizabeth Angela McMenamin Stirling, wife of Alexander Stirling of 
Dorval, Quebec. 

Adele Kathleen Paquin Strachan, wife of Kenneth Alexander Strachan 
of Montreal, Quebec. 

Irene Horianska Tyminski, wife of Tadeusz Tyminski of Montreal, Quebec. 

Stasys Vysniauskas of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Zenta Bertulaite 
Vysniauskas. 

Helena Jadwiga Igiel Vel Frankel Wodnicki, wife of Stanislaw Wodnicki 
of Montreal, Quebec. 



At 10.02 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until tomorrow at 11.00 o'clock a.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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OTTAWA, FRIDAY, 16th FEBRUARY, 1962. 



11.00 o'clock a.m. 

Prayers. 

Bill C-65, An Act to amend the Children of War Dead (Education 
Assistance) Act, was read the third time and passed. 



Bill C-63, An Act respecting the Construction of a line of railway in the 
Province of Alberta by Canadian National Railway Company from White- 
court, Alberta, in a westerly direction for a distance of approximately 23.2 
miles to the property of Pan American Petroleum Corporation, was considered 
in Committee of the Whole, reported without amendment, read the third time 
and passed. 



Bill C-48, An Act to amend An Act respecting the Construction of a line 
of railway by Canadian National Railway Company from Optic Lake to Chisel 
Lake, and the Purchase by Canadian National Railway Company from The 
International Nickel Company of Canada, Limited, of a line of railway from 
Sipiwesk to a point on Burntwood River near Mystery Lake, all in the Province 
of Manitoba, was considered in Committee of the Whole, and progress having 
been made and reported, the Committee obtained leave to consider it again 
later this day. 



The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-68, An Act to 
amend the Export Credits Insurance Act; 

Mr. Hees, seconded by Mr. Churchill, moved, — That the said bill be now 
read a second time. 



140 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 

Accordingly, the said bill was read the second time, considered in Com- 
mittee of the Whole, and reported without amendment. 

By unanimous consent, the said bill was read the third time and passed. 



Bill C-48, An Act to amend An Act respecting the Construction of a line 
of railway by Canadian National Railway Company from Optic Lake to Chisel 
Lake, and the Purchase by Canadian National Railway Company from The 
International Nickel Company of Canada, Limited, of a line of railway from 
Sipiwesk to a point on Burntwood River near Mystery Lake, all in the Province 
of Manitoba, was again considered in Committee of the Whole, and reported 
without amendment. 

5.00 o'clock p.m. 

By unanimous consent, the foregoing bill was read the third time and 
passed. 



(Private Members' Business was called pursuant to Standing Order 15(3) 
as provisionally amended) 

(Public Bills) 

The Order for the second reading of Bill C-10, An Act to amend the 
Financial Administration Act, having been read and not proceeded with, it 
dropped to the foot of the list on the Order Paper. 



The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-12, An Act to 
amend the Criminal Code (Capital Punishment); 

Mr. McGee, seconded by Mr. Baldwin, moved, — That the said bill be 
now read a second time. 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Diefenbaker, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Summaries 
of Orders in Council passed during the periods December 1 to 31, 1961, and 
January 1 to 31, 1962. 

By Mr. Dorion, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Report to Parlia- 
ment of the Civil Service Commission on positions excluded in whole or in 
part from the operation of the Civil Service Act for the year ended December 
31, 1961, pursuant to section 60(2) of the said Act, chapter 48, R.S.C., 1952. 
(English and French). 



A.D. 1962 FRIDAY, 16th FEBRUARY 141 

By Mr. Dorion, — Return to an Address, dated February 7, 1962, to His 
Excellency the Governor-General (Notice of Motion for the Production of 
Papers No. 9) for a copy of all correspondence, telegrams, and other documents 
exchanged between the government and each of the provinces since January 
1, 1961, regarding the establishment of a national power grid system. 

By Mr. Dorion, — Return to an Order of the House, dated February 12, 
1962, (Question No. 134) showing: 1. What government departments or agencies 
have dentists employed in a professional capacity? 

2. On January 1, 1962, how many such dentists were on the establishment 
of each department or agency? 

3. How many dentists have left the service of the federal government in 
each of the last three calendar years? 

4. How many dentists joined the government service in each of the last 
three calendar years? 

5. How many competitions have been held by the Civil Service Commis- 
sion for dentists in the last three calendar years; and what number of ap- 
plicants (a) applied (b) qualified (c) entered the service through these com- 
petitions? 

6. In general terms, does the Civil Service Commission find it "easy" "dif- 
ficult", or "almost impossible" to recruit dentists at the present time? 

By Mr. Dorion, — Return to an Order of the House, dated February 12, 
1962, (Question No. 140) showing: 1. How many cheque forms printed in 
English (a) are at present available to the Treasury Board (b) have been 
ordered but not yet delivered? 

2. On what dates and at what prices have such undelivered cheque 
forms been ordered? 

By Mr. Dorion, — Return to an Order of the House, dated February 12, 
1962, (^Question No. 142) showing: What were the government's receipts and 
disbursements for all purposes for the years 1956 to 1961? 

By Mr. Walker, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, by command of 
His Excellency the Governor-General, — Report of the Department of Public 
Works for the year ended March 31, 1961, pursuant to section 34 of the Public 
Works Act, chapter 228, R.S.C., 1952. 

Sixth Report of the Clerk of Petitions, pursuant to Standing Order 
70(7), as follows: — 

The Clerk of Petitions has the honour to report that the petitions of the 
following, presented on February 15, meet the requirements of Standing 
Order 70: 

Ronald K. Banister and four others, all of the City of Edmonton, Alberta, 
for an Act to incorporate Cochin Pine Lines Ltd. — Mr. Nugent. 

Muttart Development Corporation Ltd. for an Act converting it into a 
loan company under the name of "Muttart Mortgage Corporation". — Mr. 
Moloney. 

Maurice Frederick Strong and two others, of the City of Calgary, Alberta, 
and Albert Benjamin Rutter Lawrence and one other, of the City of Ottawa, 
Ontario, for an Act to incorporate Polaris Pipe Lines. — Mr. Baldwin. 



142 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

Sun Life Assurance Company of Canada for an Act changing the name of 
the company in French to "Sun Life du Canada, compagnie d'assurance-vie". 
— Mr. Lafreniere. 

The United Church of Canada for an Act to amend its Act of Incorporation. 
— Mr. Morton. 



At six o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until Monday next at 11.00 o'clock a.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(2). 



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OTTAWA, MONDAY, 19th FEBRUARY, 1962. 



11.00 o'clock a.m. 

Prayers. 

The House resumed debate on the proposed motion of Mr. Bourdages, 
seconded by Mr. Browne (Vancouver-Kingsway), — That the following Address 
be presented to His Excellency the Governor-General of Canada: 

To His Excellency Major-General George P. Vanier, Companion of the 
Distinguished Service Order, upon whom has been conferred the Military 
Cross and the Canadian Forces' Decoration, Governor-General and Commander- 
in-Chief of Canada. 

May It Please Your Excellency: 

We, Her Majesty's most loyal and dutiful subjects, the House of Commons 
of Canada, in Parliament assembled, beg leave to offer our humble thanks to 
Your Excellency for the gracious Speech which Your Excellency has addressed 
to both Houses of Parliament. 

And debate continuing; the said debate was interrupted. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Diefenbaker, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Statutory 
Orders and Regulations published in the Canada Gazette, Part II, of Wednesday, 
February 14, 1962, pursuant to section 7 of the Regulations Act, chapter 235, 
R.S.C., 1952. (English and French). 



144 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

By the Examiner of Petitions for Private Bills, — Fifth Report, pursuant to 
Standing Order 100(2), as follows: 

The Examiner of Petitions for Private Bills has the honour to report 
that the following petitioners have complied with the requirements of Stand- 
ing Order 96: 

Ronald K. Banister and four others, all of the City of Edmonton, Alberta, 
for an Act to incorporate Cochin Pipe Lines Ltd. 

Muttart Development Corporation Ltd. for an Act converting it into a 
loan company under the name of "Muttart Mortgage Corporation". 

Sun Life Assurance Company of Canada for an Act changing the name of 
the company in French to "Sun Life du Canada, compagnie d'assurance-vie". 



At ten o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until tomorrow at 11.00 o'clock a.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(2). 



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No. 24 

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OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, TUESDAY, 20th FEBRUARY, 1962. 



11.00 o'clock a.m. 

Prayers. 

The House resumed debate on the proposed motion of Mr. Bourdages, 
seconded by Mr. Browne (Vancouver-Kingsway), for an Address to His 
Excellency the Governor-General in Reply to His Speech at the Opening of 
the Session; 

And debate continuing; 



By unanimous consent, on motion of Mr. Winch, seconded by Mr. Bourget, 
the sitting was suspended at 2.40 o'clock p.m. to resume at the call of the 
Chair. 



At 3.00 o'clock p.m., the House resumed its sitting. 



Debate was resumed on the proposed motion of Mr. Bourdages, seconded 
by Mr. Browne (Vancouver-Kingsway), — That the following Address be 
presented to His Excellency the Governor-General of Canada: 

To His Excellency Major-General George P. Vanier, Companion of the 
Distinguished Service Order, upon whom has been conferred the Military 
Cross and the Canadian Forces' Decoration, Governor-General and Commander- 
in-Chief of Canada. 



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11 ELIZABETH II 



May It Please Your Excellency: 

We, Her Majesty's most loyal and dutiful subjects, the House of Commons 
of Canada, in Parliament assembled, beg leave to offer our humble thanks to 
Your Excellency for the gracious Speech which Your Excellency has addressed 
to both Houses of Parliament. 



And debate continuing; 



-That 



Mr. Peters, seconded by Mr. Winch, moved in amendment thereto,- 
the following paragraph be added to the Address: 

"This House regrets that your Excellency's advisors have failed to 
give agricultural producers proper and countervailing power in the 
marketplace through, among other things, taking steps to provide for 
National Marketing Boards." 

And debate arising thereon; at 9.30 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker interrupted 
the proceedings pursuant to Standing Order 38(4) as provisionally amended; 

And the question being put on the said proposed amendment, it was 
negatived on the following division: 

Yeas 
Messrs: 
Peters, 



Fisher, 
Herridge, 



Aiken, 

Aitken (Miss), 

Allard, 

Allmark, 

Badanai, 

Balcer, 

Baskin, 

Batten, 

Beech, 

Bell (Saint John- 
Albert), 

Benidickson, 

Boivin, 

Boulanger, 

Bourbonnais, 

Bourdages, 

Bourget, 

Brassard 

(Chicoutimi), 

Brassard 
(Lapointe), 

Broome, 

Browne (St. John's 
West), 

Cadieu, 

Campbell 

(Lambton-Kent), 

Carter, 

Casselman (Mrs.), 

Cathers, 



Howard, 

Martin (Timmins), 



Winch — 6. 



Nays 



Messrs: 



Charlton, 

Chevrier, 

Churchill, 

Clancy, 

Clermont, 

Coates, 

Cooper, 

Crestohl, 

Crouse, 

Danforth, 

Denis, 

Deschatelets, 

Doucett, 

Drysdale, 

Dubois, 

English, 

Eudes, 

Fairfield, 

Fane, 

Flemming (Royal), 

Fournier, 

Frechette, 

Fulton, 

Garland, 

Grafftey, 

Granger, 

Grenier, 

Grills, 

Gundlock, 

Habel, 



Hales, 

Hamilton 

(Notre -Dame- 
de-Grace), 

Hellyer, 

Henderson, 

Hicks, 

Horner 

(The Battlefords), 

Jones, 

Jung, 

Keays, 

Kennedy, 

Knowles, 

Korchinski, 

Kucherepa, 

Lafreniere, 

Lahaye, 

LaMarsh (Miss), 

Latour, 

Leduc, 

Macdonnell 
(Greenwood), 

MacEwan, 

Maclnnis, 

MacLean (Queens), 

MacRae, 

McBain, 
"^Cleave, 



McDonald 

(Hamilton South), 

McFarlane, 

McGregor, 

Mcllraith, 

McLennan, 

McWilliam, 

Mandziuk, 

Martel, 

Martini, 

Matheson, 

Meunier, 

Michaud, 

Milligan, 

Mitchell, 

Monteith (Perth), 

More, 

Morissette, 

Morris, 

Morton, 

Muir (Cape 
Breton North 
and Victoria), 

Muir (Lisgar), 

Nasserden, 

Nesbitt, 

Nielsen, 

Nixon, 

Noble, 

Nowlan, 



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O'Hurley, 

Ormiston, 

Pallet!, 

Parizeau, 

Pascoe, 

Paul, 

Payne, 

Phillips, 

Pickersgill, 

Pigeon, 

Pratt, 

Pugh, 



Rapp, 


Robinson, 


Starr, 


Regnier, 


Rompre, 


Stearns, 


Ricard, 


Rouleau, 


Tardif, 


Richard 


Rynard, 


Taylor, 


(Kamouraska), 


Sevigny, 


Thomas, 


Richard 


Slogan, 


Tremblay, 


(Ottawa East), 


Small, 


Tucker, 


Richard 


Smallwood, 


Valade, 


(Saint-Maurice- 


Smith (Lincoln), 


Vivian, 


Lafleche), 


Southam, 


Walker, 


Roberge, 


Spencer, 


Webb, 
Winkler— 149, 



And debate continuing on the main motion; the said debate was interrupted. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Dorion, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Return to an 
Order of the House, dated February 5, 1962, {^Question No. 90) showing: 1. 
Who initiated the Atlantic Citizens Convention held in Paris in January? 

2. What was the purpose of this Convention ? 

3. Who appointed the members of the Canadian delegation? 

4. What were their names and whom did they represent? 

5. How was this delegation financed? 

6. What was the total cost to the Government of Canada, if any? 

7. What were the recommendations of the Convention? 

8. What action does the Canadian Government intend to take with respect 
to these recommendations? 

By Mr. MacLean (Queens), a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — 
Report of the Fisheries Research Board of Canada for the year ended March 
31, 1961. (English and French). 



At ten o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until tomorrow at 2.30 o'clock p.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(2). 



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OTTAWA, WEDNESDAY, 21st FEBRUARY, 1962. 



2.30 o'clock p.m. 

Prayers. 

Thirty-three petitions for Private Bills were presented in accordance 
with Standing Order 70(1). 



Miss LaMarsh, seconded by Mr. McMillan, by leave of the House, in- 
troduced Bill C-69, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (Capital Punishment, 
Form of Sentence), which was read the first time and ordered for a second 
reading at the next sitting of the House. 



Miss LaMarsh, seconded by Mr. McMillan, by leave of the House, in- 
troduced Bill C-70, An Act to provide for Copyright in Canada and to Imple- 
ment the Universal Copyright Convention, which was read the first time and 
ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House. 



The House resumed debate on the proposed motion of Mr. Bourdages, 
seconded by Mr. Browne (Vancouver-Kings way), — That the following Address 
be presented to His Excellency the Governor-General of Canada: 

To His Excellency Major-General George P. Vanier, Companion of the 
Distinguished Service Order, upon whom has been conferred the Military 
Cross and the Canadian Forces' Decoration, Governor-General and Com- 
mander-in-Chief of Canada. 



150 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

May It Please Your Excellency: 

We, Her Majesty's most loyal and dutiful subjects, the House of Commons 
of Canada, in Parliament assembled, beg leave to offer our humble thanks to 
Your Excellency for the gracious Speech which Your Excellency has addressed 
to both Houses of Parliament. 

And debate continuing; the said debate was interrupted. 



A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Senate had passed Bill C-63, An Act respecting the Construction of a line of 
railway in the Province of Alberta by Canadian National Railway Company 
from Whitecourt, Alberta, in a westerly direction for a distance of approxi- 
mately 23.2 miles to the property of Pan American Petroleum Corporation, 
with the following amendment: 

Page 3, lines 16 to 20, both inclusive: Strike out clause 8. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following paper having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
was laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mrs. Fairclough, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, by command 
of His Excellency the Governor-General, — Report of the National Gallery 
of Canada for the year ended March 31, 1961, pursuant to section 10 of the 
National Gallery Act, chapter 186, R.S.C., 1952. (English and French). 



At six o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until tomorrow at 11.00 o'clock a.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(2). 



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OTTAWA, THURSDAY, 22nd FEBRUARY, 1962. 



11.00 o'clock a.m. 

Prayers. 

Two petitions for Private Bills were presented in accordance with Stand- 
ing Order 70(1). 



Mr. Churchill, seconded by Mr. Balcer, moved, — That the House do go 
into Committee of the Whole at its next sitting to consider the following 
proposed resolution which has been recommended to the House by His 
Excellency: — 

That it is expedient to introduce a measure to amend the Veterans' Land 
Act to extend the period during which a veteran may qualify for benefits; 
to establish dates on which persons shall be deemed to be discharged; to 
extend the repayment period of loans; to enable the Director to arrange group 
life insurance for veterans on a voluntary basis; to increase the rate of 
interest where a property reverts to the Director; to increase the maximum 
assistance under Part II; to provide further financial assistance to certain 
full-time farmers; to provide further financial assistance to part-time farmers 
and commercial fishermen; to extend the purposes for which a Part III loan 
may be used; to extend the uses to which proceeds of a sale or other disposition 
of land may be put; and to provide for the release to a veteran of a portion 
of the land on which he is established. 

Resolved, — That the House do go into Committee of the Whole at its 
next sitting to consider the said proposed resolution. 



152 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

The following Notices of Motions having been called were transferred 
to Government Orders for consideration at the next sitting of the House 
pursuant to Standing Order 21(2): 

That the Report of the Canada Council for the fiscal year ended March 
31, 1961, laid before the House on July 1, 1961, be referred to the Standing 
Committee on Public Accounts in order to provide for a review thereof 
pursuant to section 23 of the Canada Council Act. — The Prime Minister. 

That the Public Accounts, Volumes I, II and III and the Report of the 
Auditor General for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1961, and the financial 
statements of the Canada Council and the Report of the Auditor General 
thereon for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1961, be referred to the Standing 
Committee on Public Accounts. — The Minister of Finance. 



The House resumed debate on the proposed motion of Mr. Bourdages, 
seconded by Mr. Browne (Vancouver-Kings way), — That the following Address 
be presented to His Excellency the Governor- General of Canada: 

To His Excellency Major-General George P. Vanier, Companion of the 
Distinguished Service Order, upon whom has been conferred the Military 
Cross and the Canadian Forces' Decoration, Governor-General and Commander- 
in-Chief of Canada. 

May It Please Your Excellency: 

We, Her Majesty's most loyal and dutiful subjects, the House of Commons 
of Canada, in Parliament assembled, beg leave to offer our humble thanks to 
Your Excellency for the gracious Speech which Your Excellency has addressed 
to both Houses of Parliament. 

And debate continuing; at 9.45 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker interrupted the 
proceedings pursuant to Standing Order 38(5) as provisionally amended; 

And the question being put on the said motion, it was agreed to. 

On motion of Mr. Churchill, seconded by Mr. MacLean (Queens), it was 
ordered that the said Address be engrossed and presented to His Excellency 
the Governor-General by such Members of this House as are of the Honourable 
the Privy Council. 



Messages were received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Senate had passed the following bills without amendment: 

Bill C-65, An Act to amend the Children of War Dead (Education 
Assistance) Act. 

Bill C-48, An Act to amend An Act respecting the Construction of a 
line of railway by Canadian National Railway Company from Optic Lake to 
Chisel Lake, and the Purchase by Canadian National Railway Company from 
The International Nickel Company of Canada, Limited, of a line of railway 
from Sipiwesk to a point on Burntwood River near Mystery Lake, all in the 
Province of Manitoba. 



A.D. 1962 THURSDAY, 22nd FEBRUARY 153 

Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Dorion, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Return to an 
Order of the House, dated February 14, 1962, (Question No. 157) showing: 
What are the rates of pay for the following prevailing rates employees of the 
Department of National Defence in the Toronto area, and when did these 
rates come into effect (a) plumbers (b) painters (c) motor mechanics (d) 
electricians (e) labourers? 

Seventh Report of the Clerk of Petitions, pursuant to Standing Order 
70(7), as follows: — 

The Clerk of Petitions has the honour to report that the petitions of the 
following for divorce Acts, presented on February 21 by Mr. McCleave, meet 
the requirements of Standing Order 70: 

Agnes Blumenthal Agai, wife of Nicolas Agai of Montreal, Quebec. 

Jeannie Kozak Belchik, wife of Paul Belchik of Montreal, Quebec. 

Lois Ferguson Budd, wife of Hilsborne Budd of Roxboro, Quebec. 

Claude Caron of Valcartier, Quebec, husband of Pauline Thomson Caron. 

Suzanne Pampalon Chasse, wife of Jean Chasse of Montreal, Quebec. 

Rose Frishling Cohen, wife of Ronald Cohen of Montreal, Quebec. 

Rose Norris Coletta, wife of Harold Coletta of Montreal, Quebec. 

Rolland Commoy of Laval-des-Rapides, Quebec, husband of Aline Celine 
Milot Commoy. 

Jethro Garland Crocker of St. John's, Newfoundland, husband of Mary 
Jane Burry Crocker. 

Philip Dalgleish of Lachine, Quebec, husband of Rosemarie Bohn Dalgleish. 

Doreen Dreyer Kane Eastwood, wife of Bruce David Eastwood of Lachine, 
Quebec. 

Robert Fleischer of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Agnes Pataki Fleischer. 

Margaret Elaine Arthur Gallagher, wife of Raymond Hugh Gallagher of 
Montreal, Quebec. 

Joseph Adelard Frederick Geraghty of Quebec, Quebec, husband of Maude 
Ellen Bayford Geraghty. 

Geraldine Cecilia Keating Gohier, wife of Gerald Raymond Gohier of 
Westmount, Quebec. 

Harvey Stewart Wycliffe Goodwin of Westmount, Quebec, husband of 
Marilyn Thompson Fisher Goodwin. 

Marie-Louise Bourassa Guay, wife of Jean-Marie Guay of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Franklin Dale Hufford of Chomedy, Quebec, husband of Geraldine Anne 
Milner Hufford. 

Gilbert Walter Jackson of Croydon, Quebec, husband of Patricia May 
Ramsey Jackson. 

Elizabeth Calder Laptew, wife of Paul Constantin Laptew of Westmount, 
Quebec. 

Ada Josephine Ford Lejeune, wife of Ronald Lome Lejeune of Verdun, 
Quebec. 

Anita Marie Virginie Bouffard Leroux, wife of Andre Leroux of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

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Jean Gold Letovsky, wife of Louis Wolfe Letovsky of Dorval, Quebec. 

Barbara Joan Sonia Horsfield Lowther, wife of Gordon Readman Lowther 
of Hudson, Quebec. 

Garfield MacLean of Verdun, Quebec, husband of Hazel Hollett MacLean. 

Edna Anne Stanley MacPherson, wife of George Anthony MacPherson of 
St. Basile le Grand, Quebec. 

Beverley Ann Gall Maughan, wife of John Frederick Maughan of West- 
mount, Quebec. 

Werner Burke Michelsen of Westmount, Quebec, husband of Irene Eliza- 
beth Moon Michelsen. 

Joseph James Alexander Clermont O'Neill of Les Saules, Quebec, husband 
of Virginia Aucoin O'Neill. 

Nicholas Pilidis of Chateauguay, Quebec, husband of Barbara Ann Fennell 
Pilidis. 

Anne-Marie Balazs Somlo, wife of Andre Pierre Somlo of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Marcel Talbot of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Marie-Paule Belair Talbot. 

Shirley Margaret Bennett Woolley, wife of Edward Brian Woolley of 
Montreal, Quebec. 

By the Examiner of Petitions for Private Bills, — Sixth Report, pursuant 
to Standing Order 100(2), as follows: 

The Examiner of Petitions for Private Bills has the honour to report that 
the following petitioners for divorce Acts have complied with the requirements 
of Standing Order 96: 

Margaret Ellynore MacDougall Abbott, wife of Ernest Kitson Abbott of 
Montreal, Quebec. 

Aranka Ilona Paris Berendy, wife of Bela Julius Berendy of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Judith MacBeth Complin Cuggy, wife of Kenneth Douglas Cuggy of Mont- 
real, Quebec. 

John Donaldson of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Evelyn Mahaffey 
Donaldson. 

Thelma Schuker Freeman, wife of Reuben Freeman of Montreal, Quebec. 

Marie Albert Greensell, wife of Remi Greensell of Montreal, Quebec. 

Joan Marjorie Baker Gregor-Pearse, wife of Reginald Clive Gregor-Pearse 
of Montreal, Quebec. 

Margaret Anne Honey Harvey, wife of Edmund Gilford Harvey of the 
Province of Quebec. 

Nadia-Anne Lucy shy n Hruszij, wife of Mycola Hruszij of Montreal, Quebec. 

Martin Simeon Levy of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Inge Hansen Larsen 
Levy. 

Dorothy Estelle Gibbons Lord, wife of Richard Leslie Michael Lord of 
Montreal, Quebec. 

Karl-Heinz Hans Luedders of Laval-des-Rapides, Quebec, husband of 
Irene Antonio Otten Luedders. 

Frances Feldman Lyman, wife of Harvey Lyman of Montreal, Quebec. 

Leonard Marchand (Mihalcean) of Pont Viau, Quebec, husband of Gertrude 
Emond Marchand. 

Angus Mcintosh of Verdun, Quebec, husband of June Theresa Gearey 
Mcintosh. 



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Marie Aleta (Maude) Barker Meerovitch, wife of Nathaniel Meerovitch 
of Montreal, Quebec. 

Frank Hamilton Mingie, Junior, of Pointe Claire, Quebec, husband of 
Ruth Evelyn Norris Mingie. 

May Margaret Rodgers Morelli, wife of Nicholas Morelli of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Betty Beare O'Neil, wife of Garth O'Neil of Ville LaSalle, Quebec. 

Madge Estelle Druce Pinkerton, wife of Robert Pinkerton of Ville Lemoyne, 
Quebec. 

Jean Guy Prud'homme of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Aimee Lamon- 
tagne Prud'homme. 

Aline Helene Desjardins Smith, wife of Desmond Edward Smith of Mont- 
real, Quebec. 

Anton Welte of Longueuil, Quebec, husband of Christina Mayer Welte. 



At 9.50 o'clock p.m., on motion of Mr. Churchill, seconded by Mr. Nowlan, 
the House adjourned until tomorrow at 11.00 o'clock a.m. pursuant to Standing 
Order 2(1). 



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OTTAWA, FRIDAY, 23rd FEBRUARY, 1962. 



11.00 o'clock a.m. 
Prayers. 
Mr. Speaker communicated to the House the following letter: 

GOVERNMENT HOUSE 
OTTAWA 

23rd February, 1962. 

Sir, 

I have the honour to inform you that the Honourable Robert Taschereau, 
Judge of the Supreme Court of Canada, acting as Deputy to His Excellency 
the Governor-General, will proceed to the Senate Chamber today the 23rd 
February, at 5.45 p.m., for the purpose of giving Royal Assent to certain bills. 

I have the honour to be, 

Sir, 

Your obedient servant, 

ESMOND BUTLER, 
Secretary to the Governor-General. 

The Honourable, 

The Speaker of the House of Commons. 



By unanimous consent, Mr. Speaker laid before the House, — Text of the 
Declaration of Paris, issued by the delegates to the Atlantic Convention of 
NATO Nations, held January 8-20, 1962. (English and French). 



158 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

The amendment made by the Senate to Bill C-63, An Act respecting the 
Construction of a line of railway in the Province of Alberta by Canadian 
National Railway Company from Whitecourt, Alberta, in a westerly direction 
for a distance of approximately 23.2 miles to the property of Pan American 
Petroleum Corporation, was read the second time and concurred in. 



The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-67, An Act to 
authorize the Construction and Operation on behalf of Her Majesty of a line 
of railway in the Province of Quebec between Matane and Ste. Anne des Monts; 

Mr. Balcer, seconded by Mr. Churchill, moved, — That the said bill be now 
read a second time. 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 

Accordingly, the said bill was read the second time and referred to the 
Standing Committee on Railways, Canals and Telegraph Lines. 



The House resolved itself again into Committee of Supply. 

(In the Committee) 
The following resolutions were adopted: 

FURTHER SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES (3), 1961-62 

AGRICULTURE 
Production and Marketing Branch 

615 Contributions to Manitoba, Saskatchewan and Alberta in 

accordance with terms and conditions prescribed by 
the Governor in Council of one-half of the amounts 
paid by the Governments of those Provinces to farmers 
in respect of harvesting and baling of cereal crops for 
fodder to a maximum of $2.50 per ton $190,000 00 

Land Rehabilitation, Irrigation and Water Storage Projects 

Irrigation and Water Storage Projects in the Western 
Provinces including the South Saskatchewan River 
Project; the Prairie Farm Rehabilitation Act 
Program; Land Protection, Reclamation and De- 
velopment — 

616 Construction or Acquisition of Buildings, Works, Land 

and Equipment — Further amount required . . . . 3,200,000 00 

Special 

617 Prairie Farm Assistance Act Administration — Further 

amount required 498,693 00 



A.D. 1962 FRIDAY, 23rd FEBRUARY 159 

DEFENCE PRODUCTION 

A — Department 

624 To sustain technological capability in Canadian industry 
by supporting selected defence development programs 
— To increase by $4,000,000 total commitments author- 
ized by Vote 72 of the Main Estimates, 1961-1962 .... 1 00 

FINANCE 
Contingencies and Miscellaneous 

630 To authorize the establishment of a special account in 

the Consolidated Revenue Fund to be called the 
Peace Treaty Claims (Japan) Settlement Account, to 
which shall be credited all amounts received from 
Japan by way of settlement of its obligations under 
article 18(a) of The Treaty of Peace between Can- 
ada and Japan that was signed at San Francisco on 
the 8th of September, 1951, and, notwithstanding 
section 35 of the Financial Administration Act, to 
authorize payments out of the said account in the 
current and subsequent fiscal years, in accordance 
with the Peace Treaty Claims (Japan) Settlement 
Regulations established by Order in Council P.C. 
1961-1850 of the 22nd day of December, 1961, in 
respect of claims and in respect of expenses incurred 
in investigating and reporting on such claims and to 
authorize the repayment out of the Peace Treaty 
Claims (Japan) Settlement Account of all amounts 
that have been paid out toward such expenses under 
the authority of this or any other Appropriation Act 1 00 

General Items of Payroll Costs 
Including Superannuation Payments 

631 Government's contribution to the Hospital Insurance (Out- 

side Canada) Plan — Further amount required and to 
authorize the Treasury Board to make regulations to 
extend the scope of the Plan established pursuant to 
Vote 668 of the Appropriation Act No. 5, 1958, to 
include members of the regular forces in such cir- 
cumstances and for such periods as the regulations 
prescribe 90,000 00 

632 To authorize persons who were contributors under the 

Civil Service Superannuation Act immediately prior 
to the 1st day of January, 1954, and who became con- 
tributors under the Public Service Superannuation 
Act on that date, who failed to elect under subsection 
(5) of section 25 of the said Act before the 1st day 
of January, 1955, to elect, in accordance with terms 
and conditions approved by the Governor in Council, 
to count service that would have been countable by 
them under the said section if they had not so failed 
to elect, and to deem such election to be valid for all 
purposes of the said Act 1 00 



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Special 

633 Contribution to the New Brunswick Disaster Fund .... 50,000 00 

634 Grant to L'Association des Universites de Langue Fran- 

caise to assist in defraying the expenses of the First 
World Congress of French-Language Universities 
held in Canada in 1961 15,000 00 

Resolutions to be reported. 



The said resolutions were reported and concurred in, and the Committee 
of Supply obtained leave to sit again at the next sitting of the House. 



A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Senate had passed the following bills to which the concurrence of this House 
is desired: 

Bill S-3, An Act respecting The Mutual Life Assurance Company of 
Canada. — Mr. Weichel. 

Bill S-4, An Act to incorporate Westmount Life Insurance Company. — 
Mr. Webster. 

The said bills were deemed to have been read the first time and ordered 
for a second reading at the next sitting of the House pursuant to Standing 
Order 103(2). 



A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Senate had passed Bill C-64, An Act to amend the Civilian War Pensions and 
Allowances Act, without amendment. 



(At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Private Members' Business was called pursuant to 
Standing Order 15(3) as provisionally amended) 

(Public Bills) 

The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-14, An Act to amend 
the Representation Act; 

Mr. Nielsen, seconded by Mr. Martel, moved, — That the said bill be now 
read a second time. 

And debate arising thereon; 

By unanimous consent, the said bill was withdrawn, and an amended 
Bill C-14, intituled "An Act to amend the Representation Act and the Canada 
Elections Act", was substituted therefor. 

After debate on the said amended bill, the question being put on the said 
motion as amended, it was agreed to. 

Accordingly, the said bill was read the second time, considered in Com- 
mittee of the Whole, reported without amendment, and ordered for a third 
reading at the next sitting of the House. 

Whereupon a point of order was raised with regard to the regularity of 
the several proceedings on the said bill; 



A.D. 1962 FRIDAY, 23rd FEBRUARY 161 

STATEMENT BY MR. SPEAKER 

Mr. Speaker: I just wanted to make it clear that I understood that the 
House had agreed that the bill would be read the third time at the next sitting 
of the House and that the Honourable Member for Bonavista-Twillingate (Mr. 
Pickersgill) raised then a point of order as to the propriety of the House print- 
ing a second bill of the same number and form but differing in substance, a 
point which I think deserves consideration. 

In this case the House, by unanimous consent, has accepted the reprinted 
bill and, therefore, perhaps the point of order is not one that arises now but 
one that might arise if similar circumstances occurred. I can assure honourable 
Members that I will give some thought to the problem and alert the officers to 
the possibility of it arising again and the proper course to follow. 



A Message was received from the Honourable Mr. Justice Robert Tasche- 
reau, acting as Deputy to His Excellency the Governor- General, desiring the 
immediate attendance of the House in the Senate Chamber. 



Accordingly, Mr. Speaker with the House went to the Senate Chamber. 
And being returned; 



Mr. Speaker reported that, when the House did attend the Honourable 
the Deputy to His Excellency the Governor- General in the Senate Chamber, 
His Honour was pleased to give, in Her Majesty's name, the Royal Assent to 
the following bills: 

An Act to amend the Children of War Dead (Education Assistance) Act. 

An Act to amend the Civilian War Pensions and Allowances Act. 

An Act to amend An Act respecting the Construction of a line of railway 
by Canadian National Railway Company from Optic Lake to Chisel Lake, and 
the Purchase by Canadian National Railway Company from The International 
Nickel Company of Canada, Limited, of a line of railway from Sipiwesk to a 
point on Burntwood River near Mystery Lake, all in the Province of Manitoba. 

An Act respecting the Construction of a line of railway in the Province of 
Alberta by Canadian National Railway Company from Whitecourt, Alberta, 
in a westerly direction for a distance of approximately 23.2 miles to the property 
of Pan American Petroleum Corporation. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Dorion, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Return to an 
Order of the House, dated February 12, 1962, (Question No. 127) showing: 
1. What are the names, locations, number of units, and dates of completion 
of each servicemen's and veterans Housing project presently administered 
by Central Mortgage and Housing Corporation? 

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162 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

2. How many houses in each project have been sold; how many are now 
rented, and are these rented units available for sale? 

3. Is there a sales rebate policy; and, if so, give details as to how it is 
applied to all projects listed in (1) above, including those, if any, where the 
sales rebate policy has been discontinued? 

By Mr. Monteith (Perth), a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, by 
command of His Excellency the Governor-General, — Report of the Depart- 
ment of National Health and Welfare for the year ended March 31, 1961, 
pursuant to section 10 of the Department of National Health and Welfare 
Act, chapter 74, R.S.C., 1952. (English and French). 

Eighth Report of the Clerk of Petitions, pursuant to Standing Order 70(7), 
as follows: — 

The Clerk of Petitions has the honour to report that the petitions for Acts 
to annul the marriage of the following, presented on February 22 by Mr. 
McCleave, meet the requirements of Standing Order 70: 

Francesco Clemente of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Grazia Marciano 
Clemente. 

Patrick Marcel Renaud of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Jacqueline Louise 
Cote Renaud. 



At 6.05 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until Monday next at 2.30 o'clock p.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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OTTAWA, MONDAY, 26th FEBRUARY, 1962. 

2.30 o'clock p.m. 



Prayers. 



Mr. Smith (Calgary South), seconded by Mr. Jones, by leave of the House, 
introduced Bill C-71, An Act for the Establishment of an Annual Youth 
Appreciation Week, which was read the first time and ordered for a second 
reading at the next sitting of the House. 



The following Questions were made Orders for Returns under the provi- 
sions of Standing Order 39(4) as provisionally amended: 

*Question No. 143, by Mr. Racine, — Order of the House for a Return show- 
ing: Under the Winter Works Program with respect to each province and 
for the periods 1960-61 and 1961 to date (a) how many projects have been 
approved by the federal government (b) what is the actual or estimated cost 
of such projects (c) how many unemployed, registered as such with Employ- 
ment Offices, have thereby been given work? 

Question No. 161, by Mr. Herridge, — Order of the House for a Return show- 
ing: 1. Has the Queen's Printer issued a letter stating that recipe books for 
buffalo steak are available on application to him; and if so (a) how many 
such letters were sent (b) how many recipe books were printed (c) what 
is the total cost involved in printing and mailing the letters (d) what is the 
total cost of the recipe books (e) what is the amount of money expected to 
be realized by the sale of the recipe books? 

2. Is buffalo meat available for sale; and, if so (a) where (b) what is 
the cost to the consumer (c) what was the price to the retailer (d) how many 
pounds of buffalo steak are for sale? 

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164 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

* Question No. 178, by Mr. McMillan, — Order of the House for a Return 
showing: 1. How many persons took the Civil Defence Training Course in 
Canada in 1961? 

2. How many were so engaged at the last available date? 

3. How many of this latter number were unemployed when their training 
started? 

Question No. 196, by Mr. Brassard (Lapointe), — Order of the House for 
a Return showing: 1. Between September 1, 1957, and September 1, 1961, 
has any department or Minister of the government exchanged any correspond- 
ence with J. P. Boisjoly Industries Limitee concerning the acquisition by the 
said company of old rails belonging to the Canadian National Railways located 
at Ste. Philomene in the County of Chateauguay; and, if so, which department 
or Minister? 

2. Have any of the departments or Ministers of the government exchanged 
any correspondence in this connection; and, if so, which departments or 
Ministers, and what were the terms of the letters sent by the departments 
concerned? 



The Order for the House to resolve itself into Committee of Supply being 
read for the first time, pursuant to Standing Order 56(2); 

Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), seconded by Mr. Churchill, moved, — That Mr. 
Speaker do now leave the Chair. 

And the question being proposed; 

Miss LaMarsh, seconded by Mr. McMillan, moved in amendment thereto, 
— That all the words after the word "That" be deleted and the following 
substituted therefor: 

"this House is of the opinion that immediate consideration should 
be given to the development of policies that would ensure an adequate 
rate of growth in the Canadian economy." 

And debate arising thereon; 

Mr. Herridge, seconded by Mr. Winch, moved in amendment to the said 
proposed amendment, — That the period at the end of the amendment be 
replaced by a comma and that the following words be added: 

"by the expansion of public and co-operative ownership for such 
purposes as the operation of utilities, the development of resources, 
the elimination of monopoly concentrations of power, and the operation 
of major enterprises immediately and directly affecting the entire 
nation." 

And debate continuing; the said debate was interrupted. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Dinsdale, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Copy of 
Ordinances, chapters 1 to 13, made by the Commissioner in Council of the 
Northwest Territories, assented to January 25, 1962, pursuant to section 15 



A.D. 1962 MONDAY, 26th FEBRUARY 165 

of the Northwest Territories Act, chapter 331, R.S.C., 1952, as amended 1953-54, 
together with a copy of Order in Council P.C. 1962-219, dated February 15, 
1962, approving same. 

By Mr. Dorion, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Return to an 
Address, dated May 22, 1961, to His Excellency the Governor-General (*Notice 
of Motion for the Production of Papers No. 132), for a copy of all communica- 
tions exchanged since July 1, 1960, between the Dominion Steel and Coal 
Company, or any of its subsidiaries on the one hand, and any member of the 
Government or the Dominion Coal Board on the other, regarding the possible 
closing of any of the coal mines in Nova Scotia. 

By Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — 
Return of Unclaimed Balances in the Chartered Banks of Canada, as at 
December 31, 1961, pursuant to section 119(1) of the Bank Act, chapter 48, 
Statutes of Canada, 1953-54. 

By Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), — Return of Unclaimed Balances in the Banks 
incorporated under the Quebec Savings Bank Act, as at December 31, 1961, 
pursuant to section 93(1) of the said Act, chapter 41, Statutes of Canada, 
1953-54. 

By the Examiner of Petitions for Private Bills, — Seventh Report, pursuant 
to Standing Order 100(2), as follows: 

The Examiner of Petitions for Private Bills has the honour to report that 
the following petitioners for divorce Acts have complied with the requirements 
of Standing Order 96: 

Catherine Gerasimos Temponeras Andrulakis, wife of Miltiadis George 
Andrulakis of Montreal, Quebec. 

Armando Argentini of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Angela Giacondi 
Argentini. 

Alma Ivy Trineer Bankley, wife of Gordon Lloyd Bankley of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Guy Bertrand of Sherbrooke, Quebec, husband of Fabiola Mathurin 
Bertrand. 

Joseph Idolard Bouchard of Nouvelle, Quebec, husband of Antoinette Babi- 
neau Bouchard. 

Joseph Leo Gerard Bougie of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Madeleine 
Theriault Bougie. 

Elizabeth Helen Peto Brown, wife of Robert Morel Brown of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Wilma Gloria Hill Bryson, wife of Lloyd George Bryson of Lachute, Quebec. 

Lois Ferguson Budd, wife of Hilsborne Budd of Roxboro, Quebec. 

Alexander Burke of Pointe-aux-Trembles, Quebec, husband of Emeran- 
tienne St. Pierre Burke. 

Jeannette Tremblay Carignan, wife of Henri Carignan of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Nicholas Cimbru Chambers of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Germaine 
Leclerc Chambers. 

Vivian Marjery Singer Cohen, wife of Mortimer Cohen of Montreal, Quebec. 

Rose Norris Coletta, wife of Harold Coletta of Montreal, Quebec. 

Roland Commoy of Laval-des-Rapides, Quebec, husband of Aline Celine 
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166 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

Beverley Hayden Forman Crerar, wife of Colin Douglas Crerar of Beacons- 
field, Quebec. 

Florence Patricia Finucane Da Silva, wife of Aubrey Terrence Da Silva 
of Montreal, Quebec. 

Alexandra Pantzaras Deliyannakis, wife of Nicolas Deliyannakis of Mont- 
real, Quebec. 

Patricia Beverley Lang Dimeo, wife of Alexander Hough Dimeo of Mont- 
real West, Quebec. 

Brigitte Seidel Dophide, wife of Wilfrid Dophide of St. Laurent, Quebec. 

Rosemary Louise di Gravina Eakins, wife of Peter Russell Eakins of 
Montreal, Quebec. 

Verena Bachman Elsener, wife of Josef Elsener of Montreal, Quebec. 

Leonard Emond of Repentigny, Quebec, husband of Bella Savard Emond. 

Geraldine Cecilia Keating Gohier, wife of Gerald Raymond Gohier of 
Westmount, Quebec. 

Marie-Louise Bourassa Guay, wife of Jean-Marie Guay of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Robert Harrison of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Rita Jeanette Nolan 
Harrison. 

Patricia McKernan Hilton, wife of Brian Hilton of Montreal, Quebec. 

Norma Ann Murray Hurley, wife of Thomas Richard Joseph Hurley of 
Beaurepaire, Quebec. 

Haidy Amalie Madelaine Vasesha Jack, wife of John Thomas Jack of Mont- 
real, Quebec. 

Zbigniew Stanislaw Janicki of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Vittorina 
Bernardi Janicki. 

Marie Joan Patricia Romano Jeffries, wife of Joseph William Jeffries of 
Montreal, Quebec. 

Colleen Ann Sheen Kenny, wife of William Harold Kenny, Junior, of 
Verdun, Quebec. 

Zelda Barbara Fine Kimberg, wife of Irving Noah Kimberg of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Mildred Dishell Kligman, wife of Sam Kligman of Montreal, Quebec. 

Nora Bridget Whalen Lahey, wife of John Joseph Lahey of the Province 
of Newfoundland. 

Elizabeth Calder Laptew, wife of Paul Constantin Laptew of Westmount, 
Quebec. 

Constance Valerie McKnight Laurie, wife of Norman Earl Laurie of 
Verdun, Quebec. 

Paulyne Gagnon Leblanc, wife of Andre Leblanc of Montreal, Quebec. 

Barbara Phyllis Lipchitz Lippman Leibovitch, wife of Bernard Leibovitch 
of Montreal, Quebec. 

Jean Gold Letovsky, wife of Louis Wolfe Letovsky of Dorval, Quebec. 

Ines Barbara Harari Levy, wife of Nessim alias Nathan Levy of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Jean Bernard L'Heureux of Ville LeMoyne, Quebec, husband of Monique 
St. Germain L'Heureux. 

Geraldine Elaine Edwards Liverpool, wife of Samuel Allan Liverpool of 
the Province of Quebec. 



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William John Loke of Pierrefonds, Quebec, husband of Verna Irene Loke. 

Evelyne Paquette Millette, wife of Andre Millette of Verdun, Quebec. 

Ruth Clark Moss, wife of Harry Moss of Montreal, Quebec. 

Edith Rozel Dougan McDougall, wife of David McDougall of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Josephine (Rose) Tworek Nawrocki, wife of Joseph John Nawrocki of 
Montreal, Quebec. 

Evelyn Jordan Rae, wife of Clifford Rae of Montreal, Quebec. 

Real Richard of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Marcella Levesque Richard. 

Joseph-Zenon Roland Roy of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Jacqueline 
Forget Roy. 

Ivy Elizabeth Jacques Sherry, wife of Henry Edward Sherry of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Patricia Ann Nind Small, wife of Leonard Edward George Small of Mont- 
real, Quebec. 

Bertha Bromirska Staruch, wife of John Staruch of Montreal, Quebec. 

Doris Irene Moss Trerice, wife of Nelson Webster Trerice of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Gabrielle Alarie Ungar, wife of Harry Ungar of Montreal, Quebec. 

Toni Anna Lydia Mogroby Weiss, wife of Bernard Weiss (Weisz) of Mont- 
real, Quebec. 

Albert Henry Grabeldinger Willis of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Erna 
Margot Szlata Willis. 

Shirley Margaret Bennett Woolley, wife of Edward Brian Woolley of Mont- 
real, Quebec. 



At ten o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until tomorrow at 2.30 o'clock p.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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OTTAWA, TUESDAY, 27th FEBRUARY, 1962. 

2.30 o'clock p.m. 



Prayers. 



Seventy-five petitions for Private Bills were presented in accordance 
with Standing Order 70(1). 



The House resumed debate on the proposed motion of Mr. Fleming 
(Eglinton), seconded by Mr. Churchill, — That Mr. Speaker do now leave the 
Chair for the House to resolve itself into Committee of Supply. 

And on the proposed motion of Miss LaMarsh, seconded by Mr. McMillan, 
in amendment thereto, — That all the words after the word "That" be deleted 
and the following substituted therefor: 

"this House is of the opinion that immediate consideration should 
be given to the development of policies that would ensure an adequate 
rate of growth in the Canadian economy." 

And on the proposed motion of Mr. Herridge, seconded by Mr. Winch, in 
amendment to the said proposed amendment, — That the period at the end of 
the amendment be replaced by a comma and that the following words be 
added: 

"by the expansion of public and co-operative ownership for such 
purposes as the operation of utilities, the development of resources, 
the elimination of monopoly concentrations of power, and the operation 
of major enterprises immediately and directly affecting the entire 
nation." 

And debate continuing; at 8.15 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker interrupted the 
proceedings pursuant to Standing Order 56(4) (d); 



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11 ELIZABETH II 



And the question being put on the said proposed amendment to the 
amendment, it was negatived on the following division: 

Yeas 



Fisher, 
Herridge, 



Aiken, 

Aitken (Miss), 

Allard, 

Balcer, 

Baldwin, 

Barrington, 

Bell (Carleton), 

Bell (Saint John- 
Albert), 

Belzile, 

Benidickson, 

Bigg, 

Boivin, 

Boulanger, 

Bourbonnais, 

B our get, 

Brassard 

(Chicoutimi), 

Brassard 
(Lapointe), 

Browne (St. John's 
West), 

Cadieu, 

Campbell 

(Lambton-Kent), 

Campbell 
(Stormont), 

Cardiff, 

Caron, 

Carter, 

Casselman (Mrs.), 

Cathers, 

Chambers, 

Charlton, 

Chatterton, 

Churchill, 

Clancy, 

Clermont, 

Coates, 

Cooper, 

Creaghan, 

Crestohl, 

Crouse, 

Denis, 

Deschambault, 

Diefenbaker, 



Messrs: 

Howard, Peters, 

Martin (Timmins), Pitman, 

Nays 



Messrs: 



Dinsdale, 

Dorion, 

Drouin, 

Drysdale, 

Dubois, 

Dumas, 

English, 

Eudes, 

Fairclough (Mrs.), 

Fairfield, 

Fane, 

Fleming (Eglinton), 

Flemming (Royal), 

Flynn, 

Forgie, 

Frechette, 

Fulton, 

Garland, 

Godin, 

Grafftey, 

Green, 

Hales, 

Halpenny, 

Hamilton 

(Notre-Dame- 

de-Grace), 
Harkness, 
Hellyer, 
Henderson, 
Hicks, 
Hodgson, 
Horner (Acadia), 
Horner 

(Jasper-Edson), 
Horner 

(The Battlefords), 
Howe, 
Johnson, 
Jones, 
Jung, 
Keays, 
Kennedy, 
Knowles, 
Korchinski, 
Kucherepa, 



Lahaye, 

Lambert, 

LaRue, 

Latour, 

Leduc, 

Lennard, 

Lessard, 

Letourneau, 

Loiselle, 

Macdonald (Mrs.), 

MacEwan, 

MacLean (Queens), 

MacLean (Winnipeg 

North Centre), 
MacRae, 
McBain, 
McCleave, 
McDonald 

(Hamilton South), 
McFarlane, 
McGee, 
McGrath, 
McGregor, 
Mcllraith, 
Mcintosh, 
McLennan, 
McMillan, 
McPhillips, 
McQuillan, 
Mandziuk, 
Martin (Essex East), 
Martini, 
Matheson, 
Matthews, 
Meunier, 
Montgomery, 
More, 
Morissette, 
Morris, 
Morton, 
Muir (Lisgar), 
Nasserden, 
Nesbitt, 
Nielsen, 
Nixon, 



Regier, 
Winch— 8. 



Nowlan, 

Nugent, 

O'Hurley, 

Pallett, 

Parizeau, 

Pascoe, 

Paul, 

Pickersgill, 

Pigeon, 

Pugh, 

Rapp, 

Regnier, 

Ricard, 

Richard 

(Ottawa East), 
Richard 

(Saint-Maurice- 

Lafleche), 
Robichaud, 
Robinson, 
Rowe, 
Sevigny, 
Slogan, 
Small, 

Smith (Lincoln), 
Smith (Simcoe 

North), 
Smith (Winnipeg 

North), 
Southam, 
Spencer, 
Starr, 
Stefanson, 
Tardif, 
Taylor, 
Thrasher, 
Tremblay, 
Tucker, 
Valade, 
Walker, 
Webster, 
Weichel, 
White, 
Winkler, 
Wratten— 164. 



And the question being put on the said proposed amendment to the main 
motion, it was negatived on the following division: 



A.D. 1962 


TUESDAY 


, 27th FEBRUARY 

Yeas 
Messrs: 




Benidickson, 


Dumas, 


Loiselle, 


Regier, 


Boivin, 


Eudes, 


Mcllraith, 


Richard 


Boulanger, 


Fisher, 


McMillan, 


(Ottawa East), 


Bourget, 


Forgie, 


Martin (Essex East), 


Richard 


Brassard 


Garland, 


Martin (Timmins), 


(Saint-Maurice 


(Lapointe), 


Godin, 


Matheson, 


Lafleche), 


Caron, 


Hellyer, 


Meunier, 


Robichaud, 


Carter, 


Herridge, 


Nixon, 


Tardif, 


Clermont, 


Howard, 


Peters, 


Tucker, 


Crestohl, 


Leduc, 


Pickersgill, 


Winch— 39. 


Denis, 


Lessard, 


Pitman, 





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Nays 
Messrs: 



Aiken, 


Drouin, 


Lahaye, 


Nowlan, 


Aitken (Miss), 


Drysdale, 


Lambert, 


Nugent, 


Allard, 


Dubois, 


LaRue, 


O'Hurley, 


Balcer, 


English, 


Latour, 


Pallett, 


Baldwin, 


Fairclough (Mrs.), 


Lennard, 


Parizeau, 


Barrington, 


Fairfield, 


Letourneau, 


Pascoe, 


Bell (Carleton), 


Fane, 


Macdonald (Mrs.), 


Paul, 


Bell (Saint John- 


Fleming (Eglinton), 


MacEwan, 


Pigeon, 


Albert), 


Flemming (Royal), 


MacLean (Queens), 


Pugh, 


Belzile, 


Flynn, 


MacLean (Winnipeg 


Rapp, 


Bigg, 


Frechette, 


North Centre), 


Regnier, 


Bourbonnais, 


Fulton, 


MacRae, 


Ricard, 


Brassard 


Grafftey, 


McBain, 


Robinson, 


(Chicoutimi), 


Green, 


McCleave, 


Rowe, 


Browne (St. John's 


Hales, 


McDonald 


Sevigny, 


West), 


Halpenny, 


(Hamilton South), 


Slogan, 


Cadieu, 


Hamilton 


McFarlane, 


Small, 


Campbell 


(Notre-Dame- 


McGee, 


Smith (Lincoln), 


(Lambton-Kent), 


de-Grace), 


McGrath, 


Smith (Simcoe 


Campbell, 


Harkness, 


McGregor, 


North), 


(Stormont), 


Henderson, 


Mcintosh, 


Smith 


Cardiff, 


Hicks, 


McLennan, 


(Winnipeg North), 


Casselman (Mrs.), 


Hodgson, 


McPhillips, 


Southam, 


Cathers, 


Horner (Acadia), 


McQuillan, 


Spencer, 


Chambers, 


Horner 


Mandziuk, 


Starr, 


Charlton, 


(Jasper-Edson), 


Martini, 


Stefanson, 


Chatterton, 


Horner 


Matthews, 


Taylor, 


Churchill, 


(The Battlefords), 


Montgomery, 


Thrasher, 


Clancy, 


Howe, 


More, 


Tremblay, 


Coates, 


Johnson, 


Morissette, 


Valade, 


Cooper, 


Jones, 


Morris, 


Walker, 


Creaghan, 


Jung, 


Morton, 


Webster, 


Crouse, 


Keays, 


Muir (Lisgar), 


Weichel, 


Deschambault, 


Kennedy, 


Nasserden, 


White, 


Diefenbaker, 


Knowles, 


Nesbitt, 


Winkler, 


Dinsdale, 


Korchinski, 


Nielsen, 


Wratten— 133. 


Dorion, 


Kucherepa, 







And debate continuing on the main motion; at ten o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker 
interrupted the proceedings pursuant to Standing Order 56(4) (/); 



172 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

And the question being put on the main motion, — That Mr. Speaker do 
now leave the Chair for the House to resolve itself into Committee of Supply; 
it was agreed to. 

Accordingly, the House resolved itself into Committee of Supply. 

(In the Committee) 

The estimates of six departments were first taken up and entered for 
consideration, pursuant to Standing Order 56(5) (a), as follows: 

CITIZENSHIP AND IMMIGRATION 
1 Departmental Administration $ 1,072,000 00 

JUSTICE 

1 Departmental Administration including annual contribu- 
tion of $200 to the Conference of Commissioners on 
Uniformity of Legislation in Canada and $167,500 as 
grants to Recognized Private After-Care Agencies as 
may be approved by Treasury Board $ 1,385,000 00 

NATIONAL HEALTH AND WELFARE 
1 Departmental Administration $ 1,916,900 00 

NORTHERN AFFAIRS AND NATIONAL RESOURCES 

1 Departmental Administration including Canada's share of 
the expenses of the "Resources for Tomorrow" 
Conference $ 1,065,900 00 

PUBLIC WORKS 

1 General Administration including a grant of $2,000 to the 

Canadian Good Roads Association $ 11,098,000 00 

TRADE AND COMMERCE 

1 Departmental Administration including fees for member- 
ship in the International Organizations listed in the 
Details of the Estimates and $24,000 for Grants to 
promote industrial design $ 4,481,000 00 

To be reported. 

Report received, and the Committee of Supply obtained leave to sit again 
at the next sitting of the House. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Dorion, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Return to an 
Address, dated January 31, 1962, to His Excellency the Governor-General 



A.D. 1962 TUESDAY, 27th FEBRUARY 173 

(Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers No. 3), for a copy of all cor- 
respondence, telegrams, and other documents exchanged between the federal 
government and any other government or person since January 1, 1956, and 
dealing with a road connection between the Indian reserve of Kitimaat and 
the Municipality of Kitimat. 

By Mr. Dorion, — Return to an Order of the House, dated February 26, 
1962, (Question No. 161) showing: 1. Has the Queen's Printer issued a letter 
stating that recipe books for buffalo steak are available on application to him; 
and if so (a) how many such letters were sent (b) how many recipe books 
were printed (c) what is the total cost involved in printing and mailing the 
letters (d) what is the total cost of the recipe books (c) what is the amount 
of money expected to be realized by the sale of the recipe books? 

2. Is buffalo meat available for sale; and, if so (a) where (b) what is 
the cost to the consumer (c) what was the price to the retailer (d) how many 
pounds of buffalo steak are for sale? 

By Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — 
Report of the Superintendent of Insurance for Canada on Loan and Trust 
Companies for the year ended December 31, 1960, pursuant to section 9 of the 
Department of Insurance Act, chapter 70, R.S.C., 1952. 



At 10.05 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until tomorrow at 2.30 o'clock p.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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No. 30 

JOURNALS 

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OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, WEDNESDAY, 28th FEBRUARY, 1962. 

2.30 o'clock p.m. 

Prayers. 

Nine petitions for Private Bills were presented in accordance with Stand- 
ing Order 70(1). 



Mr. Bourbonnais, seconded by Mr. Valade, by leave of the House, in- 
troduced Bill C-72, An Act respecting the Administration of certain Crown 
Corporations, which was read the first time and ordered for a second reading 
at the next sitting of the House. 



Notices of Motions for the Production of Papers (Nos. 2, 16, 18, 20, and 21) 
having been called were allowed to stand at the request of the government. 



On motion of Mr. Mcllraith for Mr. Chevrier, seconded by Mr. Martin 
(Essex East), it was ordered, — That an humble Address be presented to His 
Excellency praying that he will cause to be laid before this House a copy of 
all correspondence between the Minister of Transport and the President of 
Quebecair Limited and/or any other person or persons since January 1, 1960, 
concerning the granting of exclusive rights to Quebecair Limited to operate 
between Seven Islands and Quebec. — (Notice of Motion for the Production of 
Papers No. 13). 



On motion of Mr. Mcllraith for Mr. Chevrier, seconded by Mr. Martin 
(Essex East), it was ordered, — That an humble Address be presented to His 
Excellency praying that he will cause to be laid before this House a copy of 
all correspondence between the Minister of Transport and the President of 



176 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH H 

Quebecair Limited and/or any other person or persons since January 1, 1960, 
concerning the application for a subsidy or a payment for its winter operations 
or for any assistance whatsoever to Quebecair Limited for its air services on 
the Lower St. Lawrence. — (Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers 
No. 14). 

On motion of Mr. Brassard (Lapointe), seconded by Mr. Boulanger, it 
was ordered, — That there be laid before this House a copy of all correspondence 
exchanged between any department or minister and the President of J. P. 
Boisjoly Industries Limitee, from September 1, 1957, to September 1, 1961, 
regarding the purchase of rails from the Canadian National Railways at Sainte- 
Philomene, Chateauguay County, in the Province of Quebec. — (Notice of 
Motion for the Production of Papers No. 22). 

On motion of Mr. Tucker, seconded by Mr. Matheson, it was ordered, — 
That there be laid before this House a copy of a letter addressed by the 
Secretary of Lodge Number 1237 of The International Association of Machinists, 
St. John's, Newfoundland, to the Minister of Transport since January 1, 
1962, concerning the Argentia ferry terminal, together with a copy of any 
reply thereto. — (Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers No. 23). 

The House resolved itself again into Committee of Supply, and progress 
having been made and reported, the Committee obtained leave to sit again at 
the next sitting of the House. 

By unanimous consent, the House reverted to "Motions". 

On motion of Mr. Pallett, seconded by Mr. Fairfield, it was ordered, — That 
the name of Mr. English be substituted for that of Mr. Johnson; and 

That the name of Mr. Belzile be substituted for that of Mr. Valade on 
the Standing Committee on Railways, Canals and Telegraph Lines. 

(At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Private Members' Business was called pursuant to 
Standing Order 15(3) as provisionally amended) 

(Notices of Motions) 

Mr. MacRae, seconded by Mr. McCleave, moved, — That a Special Committee 
be appointed to carry out a survey of all aspects of commercial advertising 
on Canadian television and radio, in certain newspapers and other fields of 
mass communication, for the purpose of recommending what steps, if any, 
should be taken to prevent the distribution of fraudulent and misleading 
advertising to Canadian consumers; 

That the said Committee consist of fifteen Members to be named at a later 
date, nine of whom shall constitute a quorum; 

That the said Committee be empowered to send for persons, papers and 
records; to sit while the House is sitting; to report from time to time; and to 
print such papers and evidence from day to day as may be ordered by the 
Committee, and that Standing Order 66 be suspended in relation thereto. 
— (Notice of Motion No. 7). 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



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Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Dorion, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, by command of 
His Excellency the Governor-General, — Report of the Custodian of Enemy 
Property for the year ended December 31, 1961, pursuant to section 3 of The 
Trading with the Enemy (Transitional Powers) Act, chapter 24, Statutes of 
Canada, 1947. (English and French). 

By Mr. Dorion, — Return to an Order of the House, dated February 5, 
1962, (Question No. 66) showing: 1. What are the names of each of the ships 
and dredges being operated by the Department of Public Works in British 
Columbia? 

2. On which of these are meals supplied to the employees? 

3. How many men are usually employed on each of these vessels? 

4. What was the cost of food purchased for the men on each of these 
vessels in the latest calendar or fiscal year for which statistics are available? 

5. When was the last audit or inspection made of such food purchases? 

6. What happens to food purchased for week-end meals when the em- 
ployees are off the vessel? 

7. Who are the captains or masters on each of these vessels? 

8. Do any of these named individuals own a grocery store selling food 
supplies to the Government of Canada? 

9. What, if any, irregularities in regard to the use and purchasing of 
food supplies referred to above have been discovered within a period of the 
last five years, and, if there were irregularities found, what action has been 
taken? 

10. When last was there an investigation made as to the quality of meals 
served to the employees? 

11. From what suppliers, and the amount in each case, was food purchased 
for the C.G.S. Essington for the latest year of which records are available, 
and who are the owners of the business firms involved? 

12. Are any of these owners employed by the Government of Canada? 

13. On which of the above vessels is the practice followed of having the 
majority of employees away from the vessel on week-ends? 

Ninth Report of the Clerk of Petitions, pursuant to Standing Order 70(7), 
as follows: — 

The Clerk of Petitions has the honour to report that the petitions of the 
following for divorce Acts, presented on February 27 by Mr. McCleave, meet 
the requirements of Standing Order 70: 

Carmen Lister Abrams, wife of Theodore Martin Abrams of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Marylin Jean Moore Alie, wife of John Alie of Montreal, Quebec. 

Heinrich Bernhard Altmeppen of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Irmgard 
Christine Koster Altmeppen. 

Ruth Diana Williams Andrews, wife of Douglas Frank Andrews of Mont- 
real, Quebec. 



178 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

Paul Romain Bernard Babeu of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Maria 
Jeannette L'ltalien dit St. Laurent Babeu. 

Casimir Batasonsky of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Mar jam Sole 
Batasonsky. 

Donald Beakes of Sherbrooke, Quebec, husband of Pauline Houle Beakes, 

Lili Solomon Benjamin, wife of Aaron Benjamin of Montreal, Quebec. 

Anna Annette Elofer Brahmi, wife of Alfred Emile Isaac Brahmi of Mont- 
real, Quebec. 

Robert Brooks of Duvernay, Quebec, husband of Ludmilla Elissa Topol- 
nicki Brooks. 

Jean Ilene Woods Buckley, wife of Kenneth George Buckley of Chomedey, 
Quebec. 

Linda Alice Gardner Burrows, wife of Michael Heber Burrows of Mont- 
real, Quebec. 

Daniel Gaston Jules Caron of Ville St. Michel, Quebec, husband of 
Yolande Fouquart Caron. 

Elsie Champ Clifford, wife of Peter Clifford of Montreal, Quebec. 

Thomas Wesley Dixon of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Marie Raymonde 
Camille Corbeil Dixon. 

Paul Andre Clement Robert Dubois of Montreal, Quebec, husband of 
Mireille Suzanne Jacquet Dubois. 

Jacques Ekaireb of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Eva Staszower Ekaireb. 

Virginia Waters Finnie, wife of Alexander MacKenzie Finnie of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Gaston Joseph Gagnon of St. Foy, Quebec, husband of Mariette Gabrielle 
Gagnon. 

Joseph Honore Goyer of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Marie Rose Baignee 
Goyer. 

Leonard Greenfield of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Sheila (Harris) 
Horowitz Greenfield. 

Margarete Huber Guimond, wife of Andre Guimond of Montreal, Quebec. 

Arthur Bruce Hann of Musgravetown, Newfoundland, husband of Minnie 
Jane Little Hann. 

Richard Wilfrid Earl Hogan of Cote St. Luc, Quebec, husband of Mary 
Margaret McAleer Hogan. 

George Cecil Horton of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Audrey Josephine 
Bach Horton. 

Antonello Javicoli of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Silvana Strapazinni 
Javicoli. 

Roger Jodoin of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Jacqueline Query Jodoin. 

Beverley Anne Basford Jones, wife of Eric Thomas Jones of Pierrefonds, 
Quebec. 

Peter Karas of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Lilly Rosa Zimmerman 
Karas. 

Hazel Vera Caines Kennedy, wife of Michael Francis Kennedy of St. 
John's, Newfoundland. 

Lillian Cere Kulczycki, wife of Steve Kulczycki of Montreal, Quebec. 

Marie Celine Pierrette Lavoie Lapointe, wife of Laurent Lapointe of 
Lachine, Quebec. 

Teresa Botulynska Lesiuk, wife of Julian Roman Lesiuk of the Province 
of Quebec. 



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Phyllis Marie Walsh Lessard, wife of Aurelien Joseph Lessard of Mont- 
real, Quebec. 

Margaret Kathleen McCullough Lister, wife of Walter Charles William 
Lister of Pointe Claire, Quebec. 

Margaret Rose Hamel McDuff, wife of Leonard Edward McDuff of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Frances Sheila Cashmore Madden, wife of Raymond Norman Madden of 
Ville LaSalle, Quebec. 

Patricia Marjorie Fulton Maisonet, wife of Harold Edward Maisonet of 
Verdun, Quebec. 

Soshy Judith Teicher Marcovitz, wife of Jessel (Jason) (Jassel) Benjamin 
Marcovitz of Outremont, Quebec. 

Stella Eileen Sassoon Menahem, wife of Abraham Yousef Menahem of 
Montreal, Quebec. 

Mabel Lucille Holland Mills, wife of Thomas Mitchell Mills of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Shirley Millar Neal, wife of George Chesley Neal of St. John's, Newfound- 
land. 

Helen Minkofr* Oulton, wife of Carl Oulton of Montreal, Quebec. 

Betty Lillian Reichert Patrick, wife of Allan Michael Patrick of Ville 
LaSalle, Quebec. 

Roland Pilon of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Blanche Robidoux Pilon. 

Shirley Grace Reid Ramsay, wife of John Murray Ramsay of Verdun, 
Quebec. 

Christine Goguen Rivard, wife of Ghislain Rivard of Seven Islands, 
Quebec. 

Barbara Patricia Roberts Rogers, wife of William Arthur Rogers of Ville 
Emard, Quebec. 

Fany Ghimpelman Rubenstein, wife of Claude Henri Rubenstein of Mont- 
real, Quebec. 

Eugenie Fortin Sansregret, wife of Arthur Sansregret of Montreal, Quebec. 

Eloise Warner Sonne, wife of Raymond Robert Sonne of Montreal, Quebec. 

Mihaly Szakacs of Westmount, Quebec, husband of Maria Csocs Szakacs. 

Adrien Tellier of Rouyn, Quebec, husband of Gisele Langlois Tellier. 

Lloyd Carlton Willard of Sawyerville, Quebec, husband of Uldene 
Florence Barber Willard. 

Charlie Wing, otherwise known as Hong Fong Wing and Charlie Wing 
Hong, of the Province of Newfoundland, husband of Mak Yin Kwan Wing, 
otherwise known as May Wing Hong. 

Karl Heinz Wunderlich of St. Hyacinthe, Quebec, husband of Eike Foelsche 
Wunderlich. 

Alfred Bartlett of He Perrot, Quebec, husband of Jeannette Jodoin Bartlett. 

Georgiana Bull Brasseur, wife of Robert Brasseur of Montreal, Quebec. 

Selena Sophia Quinton Clench, wife of Edgar Francis Clench of the 
Province of Newfoundland. 

James Campbell of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Doris Lucy Gaylor 
Campbell. 

Marie-Paule Jacqueline Lorette Noel Champagne, wife of Joseph Ovila 
Raymond Champagne of Montreal, Quebec. 



180 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

Louise Simard Flynn, wife of Raymond Flynn of St. Michel, Quebec. 

Gordon Gibb of Granby, Quebec, husband of Georgette Carmen Nolin 
Gibb. 

Violet Gabrielle Beaudry Gilmour, wife of Matthew Ralph Gilmour of 
Rosemere, Quebec. 

Wilfrid Giroux of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Laurette Chamberland 
Giroux. 

Kingsley Seafield Grant of St. Laurent, Quebec, husband of Dorothea 
Idnella Yates Grant. 

Anita Carpman Klaiman, wife of Raymond Klaiman of Montreal, Quebec. 

Molly Slobod Krakower, wife of David Krakower of Montreal, Quebec. 

Monique Emond Mercure, wife of Pierre Mercure of Montreal, Quebec. 

Carroll Lynne Cavey Milette, wife of Jean Pierre Milette of Pointe Claire, 
Quebec. 

Margaret Jean Coutts Moffatt, wife of Phillip John Moffatt of St. Laurent, 
Quebec. 

Mallie Fanny Kac Newman, wife of Oscar Newman of Montreal, Quebec. 

Carole Anne Douglas Orr, wife of David Frederick Orr of Beaconsfield, 
Quebec. 

Marie Henriette Antoinette Marguerite Bloodworth Csurgay Pringle, wife 
of Bruce Welsh Pringle of Montreal, Quebec. 

Kenneth James Graham Tait of Ville St. Michel, Quebec, husband of 
Elsie Marguerite Joudrey Tait. 



At six o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until tomorrow at 2.30 o'clock p.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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No. 31 

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OF THE 

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OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, THURSDAY, 1st MARCH, 1962. 

2.30 o'clock p.m. 



Prayers. 



Forty-eight petitions for Private Bills were presented in accordance with 
Standing Order 70(1). 



Mr. Howe, from the Standing Committee on Railways, Canals and Tele- 
graph Lines, presented the Third Report of the said Committee, which is as 
follows: 

Your Committee has considered the following bill and has agreed to 
report it without amendment: 

Bill C-67, An Act to authorize the Construction and Operation on behalf 
of Her Majesty of a line of railway in the Province of Quebec between Matane 
and Ste. Anne des Monts. 

A copy of the Minutes of Proceedings and Evidence relating to this bill 
(Issue No. 2) is appended. 

(The Minutes of Proceedings and Evidence accompanying the said Report 
recorded as Appendix No. 2 to the Journals) 



The House resolved itself again into Committee of Supply; 

And the House continuing in Committee; 

At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker took the Chair. 



182 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

(Private Members' Business was called pursuant to Standing Order 15(3) 
as provisionally amended) 

(Private Bills) 

By unanimous consent, it was ordered that divorce Bills SD-1 to SD-36 
inclusive, now standing for second reading, be set down for consideration on 
Thursday next. 



The Order being read for the second reading of Bill S-3, An Act respecting 
The Mutual Life Assurance Company of Canada; 

Mr. Weichel, seconded by Mr. McFarlane, moved, — That the said bill be 
now read a second time. 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 

Accordingly, the said bill was read the second time and referred to the 
Standing Committee on Banking and Commerce. 



Bill S-4, An Act to incorporate Westmount Life Insurance Company, was 
read the second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Banking 
and Commerce. 

(Public Bills) 

The Order being read for the third reading of Bill C-14, An Act to amend 
the Representation Act and the Canada Elections Act; 

Mr. Nielsen, seconded by Mr. Dubois, moved, — That the said bill be now 
read a third time and do pass. 

And the question being proposed; 

RULING BY MR. SPEAKER 

Mr. Speaker: Before the House proceeds, may I have leave to raise a 
point of order which it seems to me must be raised in connection with clause 
4 of the bill as reprinted. 

Honourable Members will recall that Bill C-14 came before the House 
for second reading a few days ago. At that time the honourable Member for 
Yukon (Mr. Nielsen), by unanimous consent, was authorized to substitute 
an amended form of the bill which is now before the House and which is 
described as "Reprinted as proposed to be amended in Committee of the 
Whole". 

Second reading proceeded, the bill was passed through committee, and 
it stands for third reading, although the bill in its present form, including 
clause 4, was in the hands of the House only at the time when second reading 
was moved or rather was in the hands of the House for the first time then. 
If honourable Members will look at clause 4, I think they will agree with me 
that it authorizes . . . 

I shall be very pleased to read the clause. Clause 4 provides as follows: 

"4. Section 9 of the Canada Elections Act is amended by adding thereto 
the following subsection: 

"(8) In the electoral district of Northwest Territories the returning officer, 
with the written authorization of the Chief Electoral Officer, may appoint 
more than one election clerk and establish, if necessary, an office in each. 



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locality designated by the Chief Electoral Officer, and may delegate, in writing, 
to any such election clerk appointed his powers of selecting and appointing 
enumerators and deputy returning officers and of selecting polling places." 

Honourable Members will observe that the first three clauses are an amend- 
ment to the Representation Act which does not provide for the expenditure 
of any funds but is an Act to deal with representation and electoral districts. 
On the other hand, clause 4 provides for an amendment to the Canada Elec- 
tions Act under which provision is made for payment of the expenses of 
elections. The problem I wish to present to the House is that clause 4 appears 
to authorize an expenditure of public funds. For the convenience of honourable 
Members who wish to look into the matter I may say that the requirements 
with respect to bills which authorize an expenditure of public funds are found 
in section 54 of the British North America Act which states, in part, as 
follows: "It shall not be lawful for the House of Commons to adopt or pass 
any Vote, Resolution, Address, or Bill for the Appropriation of any Part of 
the Public Revenue. . . to any Purpose that has not been first recommended 
to that House by Message of the Governor General ..." 

That is part of the section. Then our Standing Order 61 implements that 
statutory provision. References to the practice will be found in Beauchesne's 
fourth edition, in citations 243, 245 and 355. In determining whether any 
particular legislation appropriates money within the meaning of these provi- 
sions, the issue is not the amount of money, but whether there is an appropria- 
tion of public funds. I cannot but come to the conclusion that clause 4 
authorizes the expenditure of public funds. If that would stand in the way 
of the progress of the bill, it might be that the issue could be dealt with 
either by amendment or, if it is desired to proceed with the bill, this difficulty 
could be rectified by deferring it until a resolution has been brought in. It 
would not be proper for this bill to be read a third time and passed, thus 
setting a precedent which would stand in the future against the well-known 
constitutional practice that no public funds are ever appropriated, involving 
as they do taxation, without the House having an opportunity to consider 
the matter in the resolution stage in committee before the bill itself is 
presented. 

It would be in order, of course, to refer the bill back to the committee 
with instructions to delete clause 4. It may be that the Canada Elections Act, 
as it stands, would be the means of providing the money necessary for the 
implementation of clauses 1, 2, and 3 of the bill. If so, then clauses 1, 2, and 3 
could be made effective even if clause 4 were deleted. If the Canada Elections 
Act does not have these enabling provisions, then it is the more evident that the 
proposed amendment to the Canada Elections Act contravenes our practice. 



Whereupon Mr. Nowlan, seconded by Mr. Browne (St. John's West), 
moved, — That Bill C-14, An Act to amend the Representation Act and the 
Canada Elections Act, be not now read a third time, but that the said bill be 
referred back to the Committee of the Whole with instructions to delete 
clause 4 therefrom and to amend the title of the said bill to read: "An Act 
to amend the Representation Act". 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 

Accordingly, the said bill was referred back to, and again considered in 
Committee of the Whole, reported with amendments, considered as amended 
(Title changed to: "An Act to amend the Representation Act"), and ordered 
for a third reading at the next sitting of the House. 



184 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-15, An Act to 
amend the Canada Grain Act (Rapeseed and Mustard seed) ; 

Mr. Rapp, seconded by Mr. Nasserden, moved, — That the said bill be now- 
read a second time. 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



The Committee of Supply resumed, and progress having been made and 
reported, the Committee obtained leave to sit again at the next sitting of the 
House. 



A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Senate had passed the following bills without amendment: 

Bill C-66, An Act to amend the St. Lawrence Seaway Authority Act. 
Bill C-68, An Act to amend the Export Credits Insurance Act. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Walker, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Capital Budget 
of Central Mortgage and Housing Corporation for the year ending December 
31, 1962, pursuant to section 80(2) of the Financial Administration Act, chapter 
116, R.S.C., 1952. 

Tenth Report of the Clerk of Petitions, pursuant to Standing Order 70(7), 
as follows: — 

The Clerk of Petitions has the honour to report that the petitions for 
Acts to annul the marriage of the following, presented on February 28 by 
Mr. McCleave, meet the requirements of Standing Order 70: 

Joseph Azarie Rene Major of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Marie Louise 
Helene Nadeau Major. 

Raymond St. Jacques of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Therese Hart St. 
Jacques. 

Alexander Turnbull of Outremont, Quebec, husband of Irene Myrtle 
Evangeline Shaw Turnbull. 

Eleventh Report of the Clerk of Petitions, pursuant to Standing Order 
70(7), as follows: — 

The Clerk of Petitions has the honour to report that the petitions of the 
following, presented on February 28, meet the requirements of Standing 
Order 70: 

Canada Security Assurance Company for an Act to amend its Act of 
Incorporation. — Mr. Stejanson. 

The Canadian Indemnity Company and The Canadian Fire Insurance 
Company, for an Act sanctioning and confirming an amalgamation agreement 



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between the companies to continue under the name of "The Canadian In- 
demnity Company" and in French, "L'Indemnite Compagnie Canadienne". 
— Mr. Smith (Winnipeg North). 

Canadian Pacific Railway Company, Joliette and Brandon Railway Com- 
pany, The Saint John Bridge and Railway Extension Company, and The Saint 
Stephen and Milltown Railway Company, for an Act vesting in the Canadian 
Pacific Railway Company the railways and undertakings of the other said 
companies including their assets and liabilities. — Mr. Stewart. 

The Eastern Trust Company for an Act to amend its Act of Incorporation 
authorizing the Company to use either the name "The Eastern Trust Company" 
and or the name "Le Trust de l'Est canadien". — Mr. McCleave. 

William Edward Green and two others, all of the City of Hamilton, 
Ontario, and Roy Henderson Cuzner and one other, of the City of Ottawa, 
Ontario, for an Act to incorporate Greymac Mortgage Corporation. — Mr. 
McCleave. 

James Vincent Ryan and seven others, all of the City of St. John's, New- 
foundland, and Patrick J. Tobin of the Town of Bishop's Falls, Newfoundland, 
for an Act to incorporate "The Railway Employees' Welfare Association 
Limited". — Mr. McGrath. 



At 10.03 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until tomorrow at 11.00 o'clock a.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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11.00 o'clock a.m. 
Prayers. 

Mr. Speaker informed the House that he had received communications 
from several Members notifying him that two vacancies had occurred in the 
representation, as follows: 

Mervyn Arthur Hardie, Esquire, Member for the Electoral District of 
Mackenzie River, by decease; and 

The Honourable Paul Comtois, Member for the Electoral District of 
Nicolet-Yamaska, by reason of his acceptance of an office of emolument under 
the Crown. 

Accordingly, he had addressed his Warrants to the Chief Electoral Officer 
for the issue of new Writs of Election for the said Electoral Districts. 



ELECTORAL DISTRICT OF MACKENZIE RIVER 

Dominion of Canada \ House f Commons 
To Wit: J 

To the Honourable the Speaker of the House of Commons: 

We, the undersigned, hereby give Notice, in pursuance of section ten of 
the House of Commons Act, C. 143, R.S.C., 1952, that a vacancy has occurred 
in the representation in the House of Commons, for the Electoral District of 
Mackenzie River, in the Northwest Territories, by reason of the death of Mr. 
Mervyn Arthur Hardie, Member for the said constituency. 

Given under Our Hands and Seals, at Ottawa, this first day of March, 1962. 

(L.S.) D. S. HARKNESS, 

Member for the Electoral District of Calgary North. 

(L.S.) WALTER DINSDALE, 

Member for the Electoral District of Brandon- Souris. 

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ELECTORAL DISTRICT OF NICOLET-YAMASKA 

Dominion of Canada 1 House of Commons 
To Wit: J 

To the Honourable the Speaker of the House of Commons: 

We, the undersigned, hereby give Notice, in pursuance of section ten of 
the House of Commons Act, C. 143, R.S.C., 1952, that a vacancy has occurred 
in the representation in the House of Commons, for the Electoral District of 
Nicolet-Yamaska, in the Province of Quebec, by reason of the acceptance of 
an office of emolument under the Crown by the Honourable Paul Comtois, 
Member for the said constituency. 

Given under Our Hands and Seals, at Ottawa, this first day of March, 1962. 

(L.S.) LEON BALCER, 

Member for the Electoral District of Trois -Rivieres. 

(L.S.) WILLIAM HAMILTON, 

Member for the Electoral District of Notre-Dame-de-Grace. 



Mr. Diefenbaker, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, laid before the 
House, — Text of a Note from the Chairman of the Council of Ministers of 
the U.S.S.R., N. S. Khrushchov, to the Prime Minister of Canada, dated February 
27, 1962. (English and French). 



The House resolved itself again into Committee of Supply, and progress 
having been made and reported, the Committee obtained leave to sit again 
at the next sitting of the House. 



A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Senate had passed the following bills to which the concurrence of this House 
is desired: 

Bill S-6, An Act to incorporate Cochin Pipe Lines Ltd. — Mr. Nugent. 

Bill S-7, An Act respecting Muttart Development Corporation Ltd. — Mr. 
Moloney. 

Bill S-8, An Act respecting Sun Life Assurance Company of Canada. — 
Mr. Lafreniere. 

The said bills were deemed to have been read the first time and ordered 
for a second reading at the next sitting of the House pursuant to Standing 
Order 103(2). 



(At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Private Members' Business was called pursuant to 
Standing Order 15(3) as provisionally amended) 

(Public Bills) 

The Order being read for the third reading of Bill C-14, An Act to amend 
the Representation Act (Title changed from "An Act to amend the Representa- 
tion Act and the Canada Elections Act"); 

Mr. Nielsen, seconded by Mr. Villeneuve, moved, — That the said bill be 
now read a third time and do pass. 



A.D. 1962 FRIDAY, 2nd MARCH 189 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 

Accordingly, the said bill was read the third time and passed. 



The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-16, An Act to 
amend the Canada Elections Act (Age of Voters) ; 

Mr. Howard, seconded by Mr. Regier, moved, — That the said bill be now 
read a second time. 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Dorion, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Return to an 
Order of the House, dated February 5, 1962, (* Question No. 27) showing: 1. 
How many of the men who (a) started (b) completed or (c) were rejected 
for the first Survival Training Course, were unemployed? 

2. How many of the men who (a) started (b) completed or (c) were 
rejected for the first Survival Training Course, were on municipal welfare? 

3. How many of the men who (a) started (b) completed or (c) were 
rejected for the first Survival Training Course, were married? 

4. How many of those who were married and completed the Course were 
also unemployed? 

5. How many of the men who completed the first Survival Training Course 
have been recruited into (a) militia (b) regular army? 

By Mr. Dorion, — Return to an Order of the House, dated February 26, 
1962, (*Question No. 143) showing: Under the Winter Works Program, with 
respect to each province and for the periods 1960-61 and 1961 to date (a) how 
many projects have been approved by the federal government (b) what is the 
actual or estimated cost of such projects (c) how many unemployed, registered 
as such with Employment Offices, have thereby been given work? 

By Mr. Dorion, — Return to an Order of the House, dated February 26, 
1962, (*Question No. 178) showing: 1. How many persons took the Civil 
Defence Training Course in Canada in 1961? 

2. How many were so engaged at the last available date? 

3. How many of this latter number were unemployed when their training 
started? 



190 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

Twelfth Report of the Clerk of Petitions, pursuant to Standing Order 
70(7), as follows: — 

The Clerk of Petitions has the honour to report that the petitions of the 
following, presented on March 1, meet the requirements of Standing Order 70: 

Joseph Ernest Andre Bergeron of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Marie 
Rejeanne Francoise Therese Francoeur Bergeron. 

Madeleine Stattner Bornstein, wife of James Bornstein of Montreal, Quebec. 

Cecile Marcoux Caille, wife of Roland Caille of Montreal, Quebec. 

William James Coade of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Marguerite Forget 
Coade. 

Edie (Etta) Kauffman Cohen, wife of Husmond (Hy) Cohen of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Vivian Turkenik Cohen, wife of Irving Cohen of the Province of Quebec. 

Emily May Gledhill Crawford, wife of John Hamilton Crawford of 
Knowlton, Quebec. 

Aida Asnaourian dit Asnavour Diotte, wife of Joseph Ludger Camille 
Marcel Diotte of Montreal, Quebec. 

Jacqueline Maynard Elfstrom, wife of Edward Albert Elfstrom of Mont- 
real, Quebec. 

Jean Mildred Giberson Fillmore, wife of Eric Edwin Fillmore of Roxboro, 
Quebec. 

Gabriel Fortin of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Marie-Paule Monette 
Fortin. 

Elizabeth Cowan Lecky Frawley, wife of Lawrence Patrick Frawley of 
Westmount, Quebec. 

Helen Doreen Nesbitt Gearey, wife of Wayne Norman Gearey of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

June Eleanor Elvidge Holgate, wife of Donald Harold Holgate of Green- 
field Park, Quebec. 

Adam Holp of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Frieda Haas Holp. 

Joan Hembling Impellezzeri, wife of Ascenzo alias Vincent Impellezzeri 
of Montreal, Quebec. 

Wilma Goldstein Karls, wife of Ludwig Karls of Cote St. Luc, Quebec. 

John Joseph Laflamme of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Anne-Marie 
Schoenwandt Laflamme. 

Gwendolyn Grace Parsons Lanctot, wife of Pierre Lanctot of St. Marguerite 
Station, Quebec. 

Constance Le Baron Dibblee Lank, wife of Raymond Bailey Lank of Mont- 
real West, Quebec. 

Gilles Lamoureux of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Liliane Laperriere 
Lamoureux. 

Gertrude Vutz Lindener, wife of Arthur Lindener of Montreal, Quebec. 

Laura Letovsky Litwack, wife of Hyman Litwack of Montreal, Quebec. 

Margaret Meredith Cape MacDougall, wife of Robert Reford MacDougall 
of Saraguay, Quebec. 

Louisa Greig McAleer, wife of John James McAleer of Montreal, Quebec. 

Barbara Ruth Neale Mann, wife of John Clifford Mann of Montreal, 
Quebec. 



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Leo Rene Maranda of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Renee Haineault 
Maranda. 

Annie Mary (Mae) Dixon Marzitelli, wife of Vincenzo (Jimmy) Marzitelli 
of Montreal, Quebec. 

Marie Catherine Beaubien Frances Drumm Mathieu, wife of Joseph 
Oscard Pierre Mathieu of Outremont, Quebec. 

Suzanne Piuze Moreau, wife of Charles Edouard Moreau of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Jean-Paul Mousseau of Westmount, Quebec, husband of Denise Guilbault 
Mousseau. 

Joseph Philippe Philias Fabien Parent of Montreal, Quebec, husband of 
Beatrice Vachon Parent. 

Elizabeth Heubach Peck, wife of Hugh S. Peck of Lac Carre, Quebec. 

Joseph Luc Roger Pelletier of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Marie 
Madeleine Helene Dalcourt Pelletier. 

Joseph John Paul Raymond Phelps of St. Laurent, Quebec, husband of 
Helen Jacqueline Tischuk Phelps. 

John Matthew Hardman Pickford of Sherbrooke, Quebec, husband of 
Phyllis Wright Pickford. 

Joseph Emelien Rene Racine of Courville, Quebec, husband of Doris Helen 
Warner Racine. 

Olga Eizner Rapoport, wife of Harry Rapoport of Montreal, Quebec. 

Thirza Patricia Coleman Reid, wife of Stafford Philip Reid of Fabreville, 
Quebec. 

Melvin Rose of Bay Roberts, Newfoundland, husband of Elizabeth Butler 
Rose. 

Jeanette Silver Rosenberg, wife of Leon Rosenberg of Montreal, Quebec. 

Daisy Emily Dorothy Peard Ryan, wife of Lawrence Ryan of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Irene Dolgin Teitlebaum, alias Teitle, alias Hart, wife of Michael Teitle- 
baum, alias Teitle, alias Hart of Cote St. Luc, Quebec. 

Raymonde Mongeau Vachon, wife of Andre Vachon of Montreal, Quebec. 

Panagiotis Vekos of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Tassia Pallicaris 
Vekos. 

Waltraut Ursula Paymann Wrede, wife of Walter Otto Wrede of Wake- 
field, Quebec. 

Sheila Cohen Wright, wife of Donald Wright of Montreal, Quebec. 

Jean Zalloni of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Huguette Lamarche Zalloni. 

By the Examiner of Petitions for Private Bills, — Eighth Report, pursuant 
to Standing Order 100(2), as follows: 

The Examiner of Petitions for Private Bills has the honour to report that 
the following petitioners for divorce Acts have complied with the require- 
ments of Standing Order 96: 

Dorothy Hazel Neila Bell Beausoleil, wife of Joseph Albert William Beau- 
soleil of Montreal, Quebec. 

Magella Rheaume Bergeron, wife of Laureat Bergeron of Montreal, Quebec. 

Guy Bertrand of St. Laurent, Quebec, husband of Colombe Grondin 
Bertrand. 



192 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

Michele Favreau Breuer, wife of Claude Luc Breuer of Montreal, Quebec. 

Klara Ary Brody, wife of Otto Brody of Montreal, Quebec. 

Olga Antonina Saflan Burkousky, wife of Joseph Marion Burkousky of 
Lachine, Quebec. 

Joseph Fortin Decelles of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Simonne Letour- 
neau Decelles. 

Jean Helen Wales Donnan, wife of James Stewart Donnan of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Rosaire Gauthier of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Diane Auclair Gauthier. 

Nancy Ruth Romaniuk Grabina, wife of Jerry Grabina of the Province 
of Quebec. 

Wilhelmina Morrison Grundy, wife of George William Grundy of Verdun, 
Quebec. 

Rene Hebert of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Carmen Labrecque Hebert. 

Abie alias Allan Herscovitch of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Fannie 
alias Fay Green Herscovitch. 

Lillian Florence Catherine Kaye Hurst, wife of Douglas Charles Hurst of 
Montreal, Quebec. 

Elizabeth Heubach Peck, wife of Hugh S. Peck of Lac Carre, Quebec. 

Mona Mauron Pozza, wife of Corrado Pozza of Montreal, Quebec. 

Patricia Rose Sheen Rankin, wife of Allan Hugh Rankin of Verdun, 
Quebec. 

Christine Goguen Rivard, wife of Ghislain Rivard of Seven Islands, Quebec. 

Daisy Emily Dorothy Peard Ryan, wife of Lawrence Ryan of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Sheila Callan Wolofsky, wife of Leib Wolofsky of Montreal, Quebec. 

Karl Heinz Wunderlich of St. Hyacinthe, Quebec, husband of Eike Foelsche 
Wunderlich. 



At 6.04 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until Monday next at 2.30 o'clock p.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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OTTAWA, MONDAY, 5th MARCH, 1962. 



2.30 o'clock p.m. 



Prayers. 



Mr. Speaker laid before the House, — Joint Press Statement on the Sixth 
Meeting of the Canada-United States Interparliamentary Group, including 
Reports of two Committees, held in Ottawa on March 1 and 2, 1962. (English 
and French). 

By unanimous consent, it was ordered that the said document be printed 
as an Appendix to this day's Hansard. 



The following Questions were made Orders for Returns under the provi- 
sions of Standing Order 39(4) as provisionally amended: 

* Question No. 217, by Mr. Pigeon, — Order of the House for a Return 
showing: What is the aggregate of loans or gifts, by way of money or arms, 
made to Soviet Russia by the Canadian Government during the last World 
War? 

Question No. 227, by Mr. Benidickson, — Order of the House for a Return 
showing: 1. Did the Department of National Revenue, Customs and Excise, have 
any information that gas or gasoline powered lift trucks, having a maximum 
lifting capacity (as now rated by the Department) of 4,000 pounds at a load 
centre of twenty-four inches from the face of the forks, were made in Canada 
in the calendar years 1953, 1954, 1955, 1956, 1957, 1958, and 1959 prior to the 
Budget of that year? 

2. If so, in which of these years were such lift trucks made in Canada, by 
whom were they made, and by what model designations were they identified? 

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194 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

* Question No. 242, by Mr. Pitman, — Order of the House for a Return show- 
ing: 1. How many are employed in the Information Divisions of all the 
Government Departments? 

2. How many were employed in the existing Information Divisions in 
1957? 

3. What is the total payroll of these Information Divisions? 

Question No. 243, by Mr. Pitman, — Order of the House for a Return show- 
ing: 1. On what date did the federal government reach agreement with each 
of the provinces in regard to the Technical and Vocational Training Assistance 
Act passed at the last Session of this Parliament? 

2. How many technical institutions "designed to provide facilities for 
those who have left the regular school system" have been approved for 
federal grants under this legislation? 

3. What are the names of these institutions, the cost of each, the federal 
share of the cost, and the estimated enrolment of these institutions? 

4. How many vocational teachers, instructors, supervisors, and adminis- 
trators were trained in each of the provinces under provisions of the Technical 
and Vocational Training Assistance Act? 

Question No. 244, by Mr. Pitman, — Order of the House for a Return show- 
ing: 1. What are the names and addresses of all legal advisors to the Central 
Mortgage and Housing Corporation in the Electoral District of Peterborough in 
each of the years 1953 to 1961? 

2. What were the fees accorded to each of these advisors in the years 
1953-1961? 



The House resumed debate on the proposed motion of Mr. Fleming 
(Eglinton), seconded by Mr. Fulton,— That Bill C-49, An Act to amend the 
Small Businesses Loans Act, be now read a second time. 

After further debate, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 

Accordingly, the said bill was read the second time, considered in Com- 
mittee of the Whole; 



And the House continuing in Committee; 

At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker took the Chair. 



(Private Members 9 Business was called pursuant to Standing Order 15(3) as 

provisionally amended) 

(Notices of Motions) 

Mr. Howard, seconded by Mr. Winch, moved, — That, in the opinion of 
this House, immediate steps should be taken by the Canadian Broadcasting 
Corporation either directly or indirectly to provide television to those areas 
and communities in Canada which are presently denied the enjoyment of 
such services and facilities. — (Notice of Motion No. 8). 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



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The House resumed consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bill C-49, 
An Act to amend the Small Businesses Loans Act; 

And the House continuing in Committee; 

Objection being taken in Committee to the decision of the Chairman (Mr. 
Martineau) on a point of order, and an appeal being made to the House; 

Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair, and the Chairman of the Committee made 
the following Report: — 

"In Committee of the Whole, when clause 1 of Bill C-49, An Act to amend 
the Small Businesses Loans Act, was being considered, the honourable Member 
for Timiskaming (Mr. Peters) moved an amendment, as follows: 

"That clause 1 be amended by deleting the semicolon at the end thereof 
and by substituting therefor the following: 

'and any such loan under this Act shall bear an interest rate of not 
more than five per cent per annum simple interest;' 

"I ruled the amendment out of order on the ground that, as the amendment 
went beyond the scope of the bill as approved by the House on second read- 
ing, it was irrelevant to the bill. 

"Whereupon the honourable Member for Timiskaming appealed to the 
House from this decision." 

The question being put by Mr. Speaker: "Shall the ruling of the Chairman 
be confirmed?" — It was decided in the affirmative on the following division: 

Yeas 
Messrs: 



Aiken, 


Cooper, 


Henderson, 


Muir (Cape 


Badanai, 


Creaghan, 


Horner 


Breton North 


Balcer, 


Crouse, 


(The Battlefords), 


and Victoria), 


Baldwin, 


Danforth, 


Kindt, 


Muir (Lisgar), 


Baskin, 


Deschatelets, 


Korchinski, 


Nasserden, 


Batten, 


Dinsdale, 


Kucherepa, 


Nielsen, 


Beech, 


Dorion, 


Lahaye, 


O'Hurley, 


Bell (Carleton), 


Doucett, 


LaMarsh (Miss), 


Pallett, 


Bell (Saint John- 


Drysdale, 


Lambert, 


Pascoe, 


Albert), 


Fairclough (Mrs.), 


Leduc, 


Pickersgill, 


Benidickson, 


Fairfield, 


Macdonald (Mrs.), 


Pigeon, 


Bigg, 


Fane, 


MacEwan, 


Rapp, 


Boivin, 


Fleming (Eglinton), 


Maclnnis, 


Regnier, 


Bourget, 


Fleming (Okanagan- 


MacLean (Queens), 


Ricard, 


Campbell 


Revelstoke), 


MacLellan, 


Rogers, 


(Lambton-Kent), 


Flemming (Royal), 


McBain, 


Rompre, 


Campbell 


Flynn, 


McFarlane, 


Simpson, 


(Stormont), 


Forbes, 


McGee, 


Small, 


Carter, 


Forgie, 


McGrath, 


Smith (Lincoln), 


Cathers, 


Grills, 


McMillan, 


Smith (Winnipeg 


Charlton, 


Gundlock, 


Martin (Essex East), 


North), 


Chevrier, 


Habel, 


Martini, 


Southam, 


Churchill, 


Hamilton 


Milligan, 


Stewart, 


Clancy, 


(Notre-Dame- 


Montgomery, 


Thomas, 


Clermont, 


de-Grace), 


More, 


Tremblay, 


Coates, 


Hellyer, 


Morris, 


Villeneuve, 
Webb— 95. 




Nays 






Messrs: 




Fisher, 


Howard, 


Peters, 


Regier, 


Herridge, 


Martin (Timmins), 


Pitman, 


Winch— 8. 


26209-7—14^ 









196 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH H 

The House resumed consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bill C-49, 
An Act to amend the Small Businesses Loans Act, which was reported without 
amendment. 

By unanimous consent, the said bill was read the third time and passed. 



The House resolved itself into Committee of the Whole to consider a 
certain proposed resolution to amend the Farm Improvement Loans Act, and 
progress having been made and reported, the Committee obtained leave to 
consider it again at the next sitting of the House. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Diefenbaker, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Statutory 
Orders and Regulations published in the Canada Gazette, Part II, of Wednesday, 
February 28, 1962, pursuant to section 7 of the Regulations Act, chapter 235, 
R.S.C., 1952. (English and French). 

By Mr. Diefenbaker, — Consolidated Index and Table of Statutory Orders 
and Regulations published in the Canada Gazette, Part II, for the period 
January 1, 1955, to December 31, 1961. (English and French). 



At 10.05 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until tomorrow at 2.30 o'clock p.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



A.D. 1962 TUESDAY, 6th MARCH 197 

No. 34 

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OF THE 

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OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, TUESDAY, 6th MARCH, 1962. 



2.30 o'clock p.m. 
Prayers. 

A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Senate had passed the following bills to which the concurrence of this House 
is desired: 

Bill SD-37, An Act for the relief of Simonne Michele Mona Bouchard. 
— Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-38, An Act for the relief of Anne Marie Asselin. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-39, An Act for the relief of Hale Calvin Reid.— Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-40, An Act for the relief of Lorna Scherzer. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-41, An Act for the relief of Leomay Marie Blanche Stratton. 
— Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-42, An Act for the relief of Sylvia Aucoin. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-43, An Act for the relief of Frances Cynthia Nevitt— Mr. Mc- 
Cleave. 

Bill SD-44, An Act for the relief of Lily Worthington. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-45, An Act for the relief of Dorothy Doreen Howell. — Mr. 
McCleave. 

Bill SD-46, An Act for the relief of Daisy Emily Dorothy Ryan. — Mr. 
McCleave. 

Bill SD-47, An Act for the relief of Joyce Evelyn Ranger. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-48, An Act for the relief of Jeannine Furoy. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-49, An Act for the relief of Myrtle Alice Southwood. — Mr. Mc- 
Cleave. 

Bill SD-50, An Act for the relief of Iva Baumgartner. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-51, An Act for the relief of Elsie Jean Delisle. — Mr. McCleave. 



198 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

Bill SD-52, An Act for the relief of Josephine Suhr Moseley. — Mr. 
McCleave. 

Bill SD-53, An Act for the relief of Christine Johnson. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-54, An Act for the relief of Real Richard. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-55, An Act for the relief of Monique Remy. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-56, An Act for the relief of Paul Emile Niquette. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-57, An Act for the relief of Elsa Munch. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-58, An Act for the relief of Lygery Varverikos. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-59, An Act for the relief of Jeannine Elizabeth Sharpe. — Mr. 
McCleave. 

Bill SD-60, An Act for the relief of Anita Cleri. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-61, An Act for the relief of John Andrew Milne. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-62, An Act for the relief of Germaine Marie Therese Hinksman. 
— Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-63, An Act for the relief of Mary Catherine Weatherby. — Mr. 
McCleave. 

Bill SD-64, An Act for the relief of Gerald William Henderson. — Mr. 
McCleave. 

Bill SD-65, An Act for the relief of Eileen Myrtle Burns. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-66, An Act for the relief of Anita Margaret d'Esterre. — Mr. 
McCleave. 

Bill SD-67, An Act for the relief of Joseph Arthur Norman William 
Edwards. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-68, An Act for the relief of Irene Ross. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-69, An Act for the relief of Anna Luella Matthews. — Mr. Mc- 
Cleave. 

Bill SD-70, An Act for the relief of Gladys Ethel Sarah Bergeron. 
— Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-71, An Act for the relief of Hazel Durocher. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-72, An Act for the relief of Lily (Laura) Anita Karbelnik. 
— Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-73, An Act for the relief of Margot Scott Connor. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-74, An Act for the relief of James Richard Williamson. — Mr. 
McCleave. 

Bill SD-75, An Act for the relief of Alma Tremblay. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-76, An Act for the relief of Micheline McGuire. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-77, An Act for the relief of Miriam White. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-78, An Act for the relief of Lloyd James Simpson. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-79, An Act for the relief of Felix Hollinger. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-80, An Act for the relief of Gizella Ethel Bogoly.— Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-81, An Act for the relief of Francoise Campion. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-82, An Act for the relief of Suzi Elizabeth Perry.— Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-83, An Act for the relief of Dawn Dorothea Marsden. — Mr. 
McCleave. 

Bill SD-84, An Act for the relief of Pawel Olejnik. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-85, An Act for the relief of Joyce Ethel Empey. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-86, An Act for the relief of Gabriela Kiwitt.— Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-87, An Act for the relief of Herve Gauthier. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-88, An Act for the relief of Jean Alexandria Etheridge. — Mr. 
McCleave. 



A.D. 1962 TUESDAY, 6th MARCH 199 

Bill SD-89, An Act for the relief of John Joseph Huitson. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-90, An Act for the relief of Dorothy Irene Marjorie Adams. 
— Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-91, An Act for the relief of Judith Elizabeth Caron. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-92, An Act for the relief of Joan Mary Pearson. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-93, An Act for the relief of Glen Stewart Tornay. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-94, An Act for the relief of Nellie Rothman. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-95, An Act for the relief of Jacqueline Belanger. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-96, An Act for the relief of Blima (Wendy) Shapiro. — Mr. Mc- 
Cleave. 

Bill SD-97, An Act for the relief of Gladys Jean Desjardins. — Mr. Mc- 
Cleave. 

Bill SD-98, An Act for the relief of Gladys Noreen Monette.— Mr. Mc- 
Cleave. 

Bill SD-99, An Act for the relief of Celia Lesnik. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-100, An Act for the relief of Clara Edith Papp.— Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-101, An Act for the relief of Frances Lyman. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-102, An Act for the relief of Anton Welte.— Mr. McCleave. 

The said bills were deemed to have been read the first time and ordered 
for a second reading at the next sitting of the House pursuant to Standing 
Order 103(2). 

A Message was received from the Senate communicating to this House the 
evidence taken and the papers produced in respect of the above-mentioned 
divorce bills, with a request that the said evidence and papers be returned to 
the Senate. 



The House resumed consideration in Committee of the Whole of a certain 
proposed resolution to amend the Farm Improvement Loans Act; 

And the House continuing in Committee; 

At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker took the Chair. 

By unanimous consent, the House reverted to "Motions". 



On motion of Mr. Pallett, seconded by Mr. Ricard, it was ordered, — That 
the name of Mr. Winch be substituted for that of Mr. Argue on the Standing 
Committee on Banking and Commerce; 

That the name of Mr. Herridge be substituted for that of Mr. Argue on 
the Standing Committee on Standing Orders; 

That the name of Mr. Howard be substituted for that of Mr. Argue on 
the Standing Committee on Debates; 

That the name of Mr. Herridge be substituted for that of Mr. Argue on 
the Standing Committee on Agriculture and Colonization; and 

That the name of Mr. Martin (Timmins) be substituted for that of Mr. 
Argue on the Standing Committee on Estimates. 



200 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

(Private Members' Business was called pursuant to Standing Order 15(3) 
as provisionally amended) 

(Private Bills) 

The Order being read for the second reading of Bill S-6, An Act to 
incorporate Cochin Pipe Lines Ltd.; 

Mr. Nugent, seconded by Mr. Baldwin, moved, — That the said bill be now- 
read a second time. 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 

Accordingly, the said bill was read the second time and referred to the 
Standing Committee on Railways, Canals and Telegraph Lines. 



The Order being read for the second reading of Bill S-7, An Act respect- 
ing Muttart Development Corporation Ltd.; 

Mr. Morton for Mr. Maloney, seconded by Mr. Muir (Lisgar), moved, — 
That the said bill be now read a second time. 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 

Accordingly, the said bill was read the second time and referred to the 
Standing Committee on Banking and Commerce. 



The Order being read for the second reading of Bill S-8, An Act respect- 
ing Sun Life Assurance Company of Canada; 

Mr. Asselin for Mr. Lafreniere, seconded by Mr. McGee, moved, — That 
the said bill be now read a second time. 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 

Accordingly, the said bill was read the second time and referred to the 
Standing Committee on Banking and Commerce. 



(Public Bills) 

The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-17, An Act to 
amend the House of Commons Act (Internal Economy Autonomy) ; 

Mr. Howard, seconded by Mr. Peters, moved, — That the said bill be now 
read a second time. 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



By unanimous consent, the House reverted to "Motions". 
And after some time; 



A.D. 1962 TUESDAY, 6th MARCH 201 

The House resumed consideration in Committee of the Whole of a certain 
proposed resolution to amend the Farm Improvement Loans Act. 

(In the Committee) 

The following resolution was adopted: 

Resolved, — That it is expedient to introduce a measure to amend the Farm 
Improvement Loans Act to provide for the making of guaranteed loans during 
the period July 1st, 1962 to June 30th, 1965, and to establish four hundred 
million dollars as the limit of guaranteed loans that may be made during the 
new loan period. 

Resolution to be reported. 



The said resolution was reported and concurred in. 



Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), seconded by Mr. Hamilton (Notre-Dame-de- 
Grace), by leave of the House, presented Bill C-73, An Act to amend the 
Farm Improvement Loans Act, which was read the first time and ordered for 
a second reading at the next sitting of the House. 



The House resolved itself into Committee of the Whole to consider a 
certain proposed resolution to amend the Fisheries Improvement Loans Act. 

(In the Committee) 

The following resolution was adopted: 

Resolved, — That it is expedient to introduce a measure to amend the 
Fisheries Improvement Loans Act to extend the period during which guaranteed 
loans may be made to the 30th day of June, 1965. 

Resolution to be reported. 



The said resolution was reported and concurred in. 



Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), seconded by Mr. Hamilton (Notre-Dame-de- 
Grace), by leave of the House, presented Bill C-74, An Act to amend the 
Fisheries Improvement Loans Act, which was read the first time and ordered 
for a second reading at the next sitting of the House. 



The House resolved itself into Committee of the Whole to consider a 
certain proposed resolution concerning the payment of certain provincial 
taxes and fees by Crown Corporations, and progress having been made and 
reported, the Committee obtained leave to consider it again at the next sitting 
of the House. 



202 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Dorion, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Return to an 
Address, dated February 28, 1962, to His Excellency the Governor- General 
(Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers No. 23) for a copy of a letter 
addressed by the Secretary of Lodge Number 1237 of The International Associa- 
tion of Machinists, St. John's, Newfoundland, to the Minister of Transport 
since January 1, 1962, concerning the Argentia ferry terminal, together with 
a copy of any reply thereto. 

By the Examiner of Petitions for Private Bills, — Ninth Report, pursuant 
to Standing Order 100(2), as follows: 

The Examiner of Petitions for Private Bills has the honour to report that 
the following petitioners for divorce Acts have complied with the requirements 
of Standing Order 96: 

Betty Szlukier Ankhelyi, wife of Gyorgy (George) Ankhelyi of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Suzanne Pampalon Chasse, wife of Jean Chasse of Montreal, Quebec. 

Alice Elizabeth Newman Clarke, wife of Warren Clarke of Ville LeMoyne, 
Quebec. 

Josephine Mary Holmes Croll, wife of Donald Edmund Croll of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Roland Demers of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Pierrette Mercier Demers. 

Hilda Copley Desjardins, wife of Joseph Real Robert Desjardins of Mont- 
real, Quebec. 

Margaret Joan Parkinson Digby, wife of George Arnold Digby of Ville 
St. Michel, Quebec. 

Aida Asnaourian dit Asnavour Diotte, wife of Joseph Ludger Camille 
Marcel Diotte of Montreal, Quebec. 

Robert Fleischer of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Agnes Pataki Fleischer. 

Mary Iris Neil Fournier, wife of Jean Jacques Fournier of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Haia (Clara) Weissman Fuchsman, wife of Iosif (Josif) Fuchsman of 
Chateauguay, Quebec. 

Wilfrid Giroux of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Laurette Chamberland 
Giroux. 

Margaret Elaine Arthur Gallagher, wife of Raymond Hugh Gallagher of 
Montreal, Quebec. 

Ezreh Harry Herscovitch of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Lillian Lea 
Huss Herscovitch. 

Micheline Deyglun Holowaty, wife of Sam Holowaty of Montreal, Quebec. 

Rosa Degen Jacobson, wife of Michael Jacobson of Montreal, Quebec. 

Elizabeth Anne Hanley Kotania, wife of Thaddeus Julian John Kotania 
of LaSalle, Quebec. 

Stephen Alexander Lantos of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Marie Luise 
Schmidt Lantos. 

Joyce Irene Bernard Larocque, wife of Andrew Joseph Larocque of the 
Province of Quebec. 



A.D. 1962 TUESDAY, 6th MARCH 203 

Violet Pearl St. James Kerr Lemoine, wife of Stanley Allen Lemoine of 
Montreal, Quebec. 

Nathalie Katyk Longtin, wife of Claude Valois Longtin of Montreal, Quebec. 

Ann Marguerite Barnett MacDonald, wife of Russell Albert MacDonald of 
St. Laurent, Quebec. 

Phyllis Amber Manoah, wife of Yaacov Manoah of Montreal, Quebec. 

Sandra Mary-Louise Deering Martin, wife of Wallace Martin of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Leslie Thomas Norval Modler of Cartierville, Quebec, husband of Nina 
Naomi March Modler. 

William Henry Monaghan of Hudson Heights, Quebec, husband of JoAnn 
Carol Brown Monaghan. 

Harold Moreau of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Suzanne Dragon Moreau. 

Vida Irene Louise Zwicker McCallum, wife of William Neil McCallum of 
Montreal, Quebec. 

Jean Elizabeth Simmons O'Reilly, wife of Michael Walter O'Reilly of St. 
Laurent, Quebec. 

Joseph Philippe Philias Fabien Parent of Montreal, Quebec, husband of 
Beatrice Vachon Parent. 

Maureen Mary Mears Piercey, wife of William Frederick Piercey of 
Montreal, Quebec. 

Eva Florence Eigen Plaskett, wife of Gordon Plaskett of Montreal, Quebec. 

Barbara Patricia Roberts Rogers, wife of William Arthur Rogers of Ville 
Emard, Quebec. 

Isadore Rosenblatt of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Sarah Molly Speevak 
Rosenblatt. 

Rebecca Rafalkes Rosenstrauss, wife of Eisig Rosenstrauss of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Ida Dubrofsky Schwartz, wife of Moses Albert Schwartz of Cote St. Luc, 
Quebec. 

David Filmore Sadler of the Province of Quebec, husband of Nancy Agnes 
Sanborn Sadler. 

Millicent Vera Bratley Seagrove, wife of Anthony Naworth Seagrove of 
Montreal, Quebec. 

Phyllis White Siev, wife of Geoffrey Marshall Siev of Montreal, Quebec. 

Sylvia Hopkins Socaransky, wife of Samuel Socaransky of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Anne-Marie Balazs Somlo, wife of Andre Pierre Somlo of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Hyman Omri Tannenbaum of Baie d'Urfe, Quebec, husband of Elsie Sarah 
Kirouac Tannenbaum. 

Milton Lawrence Trickey of St. Constant, Quebec, husband of Myrtle 
Ramona Feltham Trickey. 

Maurice Varin of Montreal North, Quebec, husband of Pierrette Gariepy 
Varin. 

Lillian Anne LePoidevin Waller, wife of Frederick Louis Waller of Laval- 
des-Rapides, Quebec. 



204 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

At 10.02 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until tomorrow at 2.30 o'clock p.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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OTTAWA, WEDNESDAY, 7th MARCH, 1962. 



2.30 o'clock p.m. 

Prayers. 

Mr. Cathers, from the Standing Committee on Banking and Commerce, 
presented the First Report of the said Committee, which was read as follows: 
Your Committee recommends: 

1. That its quorum be reduced from 15 to 10 Members, and that Standing 
Order 65(1) (d) be suspended in relation thereto; 

2. That it be empowered to print such papers and evidence as may be 
ordered by the Committee, and that Standing Order 66 be suspended in 
relation thereto; 

3. That it be given leave to sit while the House is sitting. 

By unanimous consent, on motion of Mr. Cathers, seconded by Mr. 
Southam, the said Report was concurred in. 



Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, laid 
before the House, — 

( 1 ) Interim Agreement, between Canada and the United States of America, 
respecting Tariff Negotiations pursuant to Article XXVIII of the General Agree- 
ment on Tariffs and Trade, done at Geneva, March 7, 1962. (English and 
French). 

(2) Summary of Schedules annexed to the foregoing Agreement indicating 
concessions received and given by Canada. (English and French). 



Mr. Dinsdale, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, laid before the 
House, — Interim Report of the International Migratory Bird Committee, dated 
December 15, 1961. 



206 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

Mr. Harkness for Mr. Hamilton (Qu'Appelle), seconded by Mr. Churchill, 
by leave of the House, introduced Bill C-75, An Act to amend the Canadian 
Wheat Board Act, which was read the first time and ordered for a second 
reading at the next sitting of the House. 



The following Question was made an Order for Return under the provi- 
sions of Standing Order 39(4) as provisionally amended: 

* Question No. 232, by Mr. Caron, — Order of the House for a Return 
showing: 1. Has the government received any representations to the effect 
that industrial non-contributory pensions have been reduced by the amount of 
the recent increase in Old Age Security? 

2. Is there any regulation that would prevent a company from making 
such a reduction in its pension payments? 



Notices of Motions for the Production of Papers (Nos. 2, 16, 18, 21, and 
24) having been called were allowed to stand at the request of the government. 



On motion of Mr. Pickersgill, seconded by Mr. Benidickson, it was ordered, 
— That an humble Address be presented to His Excellency praying that he 
will cause to be laid before this House a copy of all correspondence, since 
July 1, 1961, between the Minister of Transport or any officers of his depart- 
ment and the Premier of Nova Scotia or any other person, regarding the 
railway between Springhill Junction and Springhill, Nova Scotia. — (Notice 
of Motion for the Production of Papers No. 20). 



On motion of Mr. Peters, seconded by Mr. Martin (Timmins), it was 
ordered, — That an humble Address be presented to His Excellency praying that 
he will cause to be laid before this House a copy of all correspondence, tele- 
grams, and other documents exchanged between the federal government and 
any other government or any agency, department, or branch thereof, since 
January 1, 1959, relating to an economic or feasibility survey to examine the 
possibilities of establishing a salt-water port at Moosonee. — (Notice of Motion 
for the Production of Papers No. 25). 



Mr. Howard, seconded by Mr. Peters, moved, — That an Order of the 
House do issue for a copy of the study by an interdepartmental committee 
into the recommendations of the commission of inquiry, appointed on June 
25, 1959, to inquire generally into all matters arising out of unfulfilled provi- 
sions of treaties 8 and 11 as they applied to Indians of the Mackenzie District. 
— (Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers No. 26). 

And the question being put on the said motion, it was negatived on the 
following division: 

Yeas 

Messrs: 

Herridge, Martin (Timmins), Regier, Winch — 6. 

Howard, Peters, 



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WEDNESDAY, 7th MARCH 



207 



Nays 



Messrs: 



Aiken, 

Allard, 

Allmark, 

Argue, 

Asselin, 

Badanai, 

Barrington, 

Baskin, 

Batten, 

Beech, 

Bell (Carleton), 

Bell (Saint John- 
Albert), 

Belzile, 

Benidickson, 

Best, 

Bigg, 

Bissonnette, 

Boulanger, 

Bourbonnais, 

Bourdages, 

Bourget, 

Bourque, 

Brassard 
(Lapointe), 

Browne (St. John's 
West), 

Browne (Vancouver- 
Kingsway), 

Bruch&si, 

Campbell 

(Lambton-Kent), 

Cardiff, 

Cardin, 

Carter, 

Casselman (Mrs.), 

Cathers, 

Chambers, 

Charlton, 

Chatterton, 

Churchill, 

Clancy, 

Clermont, 

Coates, 

Cooper, 

Creaghan, 

Crestohl, 

Crouse, 

Danforth, 

Denis, 

Deschambault, 

Deschatelets, 



Diefenbaker, 

Dinsdale, 

Dorion, 

Doucett, 

Drouin, 

Drysdale, 

Dubois, 

Dumas, 

English, 

Eudes, 

Fairclough (Mrs.), 

Fairfield, 

Fane, 

Fleming (Eglinton), 

Fleming (Okanagan- 
Revelstoke), 

Flemming (Royal), 

Flynn, 

Forbes, 

Fortin, 

Fournier, 

Fulton, 

Garland, 

Grafftey, 

Granger, 

Grills, 

Gundlock, 

Habel, 

Hales, 

Halpenny, 

Hamilton 

(Notre -Dame- 
de-Grace), 

Hanbidge, 

Harkness, 

Hees, 

Hellyer, 

Henderson, 

Hicks, 

Horner (Acadia), 

Horner 

(The Battlefords), 

Howe, 

Jones, 

Jorgenson, 

Jung, 

Keays, 

Kennedy, 

Kindt, 

Knowles, 

Korchinski, 

Kucherepa, 



Lahaye, 

LaMarsh (Miss), 

Lambert, 

Latour, 

Leduc, 

Legere, 

Lennard, 

Macdonald (Mrs.), 

Macdonnell, 

MacEwan, 

Maclnnis, 

MacLean (Queens), 

MacLean (Winnipeg 

North Centre), 
MacLellan, 
Macnaughton, 
Macquarrie, 
McBain, 
McDonald 

(Hamilton South), 
McFarlane, 
McGrath, 
McGregor, 
Mcintosh, 
McLennan, 
McMillan, 
McPhillips, 
McQuillan, 
McWilliam, 
Mandziuk, 
Martel, 

Martin (Essex East), 
Martini, 
Matheson, 
Matthews, 
Meunier, 
Milligan, 
Monteith (Perth), 
Montgomery, 
More, 
Morissette, 
Morris, 
Morton, 
Muir (Cape 

Breton North 

and Victoria), 
Muir (Lisgar), 
Murphy, 
Nasserden, 
Nesbitt, 
Nielsen, 
Nowlan, 



Nugent, 

O'Hurley, 

O'Leary, 

Ormiston, 

Pallett, 

Parizeau, 

Pascoe, 

Pearson, 

Pickersgill, 

Pigeon, 

Pratt, 

Racine, 

Rapp, 

Regnier, 

Ricard, 

Richard 

(Ottawa East), 
Richard 

(Saint-Maurice- 

Lafleche), 
Roberge, 
Robichaud, 
Robinson, 
Rogers, 
Rompre, 
Rouleau, 
Rowe, 
Rynard, 
Sevigny, 
Simpson, 
Small, 
Smallwood, 
Smith (Lincoln), 
Smith (Simcoe 

North), 
Southam, 
Starr, 
Stefanson, 
Stewart, 
Tardif, 
Thomas, 
Thrasher, 
Tremblay, 
Tucker, 
Villeneuve, 
Walker, 
Webb, 
Webster, 
Winkler, 
Wratten— 189. 



Bill C-73, An Act to amend the Farm Improvement Loans Act, was read 
the second time, considered in Committee of the Whole, and reported with- 
out amendment. 

By unanimous consent, the said bill was read the third time and passed. 



208 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

Bill C-74, An Act to amend the Fisheries Improvement Loans Act, was 
read the second time, considered in Committee of the Whole, and reported 
without amendment. 

By unanimous consent, Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), seconded by Mr. Balcer, 
moved, — That the said bill be now read a third time and do pass. 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 

Accordingly, the said bill was read the third time and passed. 



Bill C-67, An Act to authorize the Construction and Operation on behalf 
of Her Majesty of a line of railway in the Province of Quebec between Matane 
and Ste. Anne des Monts, was considered in Committee of the Whole, and 
progress having been made and reported, the Committee obtained leave to 
consider it again at the next sitting of the House. 



(At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Private Members' Business was called pursuant to 
Standing Order 15(3) as provisionally amended). 

(Notices of Motions) 

Mr. Argue, seconded by Mr. Boulanger, moved, — That, in the opinion of 
this House, the government should consider the advisability of providing com- 
prehensive income payments to farmers in time of crop failure by giving 
consideration to amending the Prairie Farm Assistance Act so as to provide: 
(a) an increase in the schedule of payments as follows: (i) an increase in 
the maximum payment from $4 per acre to $8 per acre; (ii) an increase in 
the present $3 per acre payment to $6 per acre; (iii) an increase in the present 
$2 per acre payment to $4 per acre; (b) an increase in farmers' contributions 
from 1% to 2%; (c) an increase in the maximum cultivated acreage on which 
payments may be made from 400 acres to 600 acres; and should give considera- 
tion to the provision of other appropriate amendments required to assure 
adequate income support in time of crop failure. — (Notice of Motion No. 9). 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Dorion, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Return to an 
Order of the House, dated January 31, 1962, (* Question No. 72) showing: 1. 
What civilian and military appointments, with dates, have been held by the 
C. M. Drury referred to by the Prime Minister on January 23, 1962? 

2. What decorations, if any, have been conferred upon Drury? 

3. Has this government honoured Drury by any appointment? 

By Mr. Dorion, — Return to an Order of the House, dated February 14, 
1962, (^Question No. 73) showing: Since November 1, 1961, has the Govern- 



A.D. 1962 WEDNESDAY, 7th MARCH 209 

ment of Canada, or any agency, branch, or department thereof, paid any 
money to, or on behalf of, or is any money owed to, or on behalf of, any 
editor, publisher, or other representative of any newspaper, excluding pay- 
ments for advertisements, and if so, with respect to each such editor, publisher 
or other representative, what is (a) his name and address (b) the newspaper 
which he represented or was associated with (c) the amount of any such 
payment or indebtedness for transportation expenses and the places travelled 
to and/or from (d) the amount of any such payment or indebtedness for 
hotel and/or meals (e) the amount of any other such payment and the reasons 
therefor? 



At six o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until tomorrow at 2.30 o'clock p.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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OF THE 

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OTTAWA, THURSDAY, 8th MARCH, 1962. 

2.30 o'clock p.m. 



Prayers. 



Mr. Howe, from the Standing Committee on Railways, Canals and Tele- 
graph Lines, presented the Fourth Report of the said Committee, which was 
read as follows: 

Your Committee has considered Bill S-6, An Act to incorporate Cochin 
Pipe Lines Ltd., and has agreed to report it without amendment. 

Clause 3 of the bill provides for capital stock of four million shares 
without nominal or par value. 

Your Committee recommends that, for taxing purposes under Standing 
Order 94, each common share shall be deemed to be worth one dollar. 

A copy of the Minutes of Proceedings and Evidence relating to this bill 
(Issue No. 3) is appended. 

(The Minutes of Proceedings and Evidence accompanying the said Report 
recorded as Appendix No. 3 to the Journals) 



By unanimous consent, on motion of Mr. Howe, seconded by Mr. Robinson, 
the recommendation respecting capital stock charges contained in the forego- 
ing Report was concurred in. 



The House resolved itself again into Committee of Supply; 

And the House continuing in Committee; 

At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker took the Chair. 



212 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

(Private Members' Business was called pursuant to Standing Order 15(3) 
as provisionally amended) 

(Private Bills) 

By unanimous consent, all divorce bills standing for second reading on 
the Order Paper were allowed to stand. 



(Public Bills) 

Orders numbered 1 and 2, having been severally called, were allowed to 
stand at the request of the government. 



The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-20, An Act to 
amend the House of Commons Act (Election Writs for By-elections); 

Mr. Pickersgill, seconded by Mr. Hellyer, moved, — That the said bill be 
now read a second time. 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



The Committee of Supply resumed. 

(In the Committee) 
The following resolutions were adopted: 

FURTHER SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES (3), 1961-62 

EXTERNAL AFFAIRS 

A — Department 

625 Canada's civilian participation as a member of the Inter- 

national Commissions for Supervision and Control in 

Indo-China — Further amount required $ 100,000 00 

626 Gift to commemorate the sesquicentennial anniversary of 

the independence of the Republic of Mexico — Further 

amount required 2,500 00 

627 Gift to commemorate the inauguration of 'Plaza Canada* 

in Buenos Aires, Argentina 1,100 00 

Other Payments to International Organizations and Programs 

628 Assessments for Membership in the International (including 

Commonwealth) Organizations that are detailed in the 
Estimates, including authority to pay such assessments 
in the amounts and in the currencies in which they are 
levied — Further amount required in Canadian dollars, 
estimated as of January, 1962 2,400 00 



A.D. 1962 THURSDAY, 8th MARCH 213 

629 Purchase and transportation to British Honduras of skim 
milk powder, canned pork and other supplies for the 
relief of victims of the hurricane disaster and to 
authorize reimbursement of the Agricultural Stabiliza- 
tion Board in respect of the purchase of such skim 
milk powder and canned pork 70,500 00 

LOANS, INVESTMENTS AND ADVANCES 

External Affairs 

668 To authorize the purchase in the current and subsequent 
fiscal years of United Nations bonds in an amount of 
$6,240,000 U.S., notwithstanding that payment may 
exceed or fall short of the equivalent in Canadian 
dollars estimated as of January, 1962, which is . . . . 6,493,500 00 

Resolutions to be reported. 



The said resolutions were reported and concurred in, and the Committee 
of Supply obtained leave to sit again at the next sitting of the House. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Speaker, — Report of the Civil Service Commission (English and 
French), as follows: 

CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION 
CANADA 

February 7, 1962. 

To the Honourable the Members of the House of Commons 

The Civil Service Commission has the honour to submit the following 
report. 

There is a need for a continuing full-time position of Cashier in the 
cafeteria of the Joint Parliamentary Restaurant to provide for the permanent 
appointment of the present Cashier who has been employed in an exempt 
position under authority of the Speaker of the House of Commons. Pursuant 
to Sections 10 and 62 of the Civil Service Act, the Civil Service Commission 
has, therefore, approved the following new class, effective July 1, 1961: 

CASHIER, JOINT PARLIAMENTARY RESTAURANT 

Under Sections 11 and 62 of the Civil Service Act, the Civil Service 
Commission recommends for approval of the House of Commons rates of 
compensation for the above new class, effective July 1, 1961, as follows: 



214 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

CASHIER, JOINT PARLIAMENTARY RESTAURANT 

Annual: $2190 2280 2370 2460 

Respectfully submitted, 

SAM HUGHES, 

Chairman, 

RUTH E. ADDISON, 

Commissioner. 

PAUL PELLETIER, 

Commissioner. 

ROLAND MICHENER, 

Speaker of the House of Commons. 

By Mr. Speaker, — Report of the Civil Service Commission (English and 
French), as follows: 

CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION 
CANADA 

February 21, 1962. 

To the Honourable the Members of the House of Commons 

The Civil Service Commission has the honour to submit the following 
report. 

In accordance with the provisions of Sections 11 and 62 of the Civil 
Service Act, it is recommended that the rates of compensation for each of the 
classes listed hereunder be revised to the rates indicated immediately there- 
under, effective July 1, 1961, subject to the following provisions: 

1. That the rate of pay shall be determined as follows: 

(a) Each employee in the classes specified shall be paid at the salary rate 
shown immediately below the salary rate at which he was being paid 
on the effective date, or, if appointed after the effective date, the 
salary rate shown immediately below the salary rate at which he was 
being paid on the date of appointment. 

(b) An employee who is promoted in any of the classes concerned with 
effect on or prior to the effective date shall be considered for pay 
purposes as having been paid at a rate of pay determined in accordance 
with the Civil Service Act and Regulations. 

(c) The present increase date of employees shall not be affected by this 
order and an employee shall retain any benefits to which he would 
otherwise be eligible under the terms of Order in Council of April 
30, 1946, P.C. 23/1700, as amended. 

2. That the increase shall be paid on the above basis in respect of the period 
commencing on and after the effective date to: 

(a) An employee on strength on the date of approval provided, however, 
that an employee may receive the benefit of Section 1 only once. 

(b) A former employee whose services had been terminated during the 
said period because of: 

(i) lay-off, 



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(ii) retirement, or 

(iii) release of the employee for a reason that, in the opinion of the 
appropriate deputy head, was beyond the control of the employee. 

(c) The estate of a former employee who has died during the said period. 

3. That no change shall be made as a result of this revision in the salary or 
other remuneration of any person employed under the provisions of Section 39 
of the Civil Service Act. 

4. That this revision does not affect any order by virtue of which a terminable 
allowance is paid. 

LAW CLERK, HOUSE OF COMMONS 
From: 14000 14500 15000 
To: 14800 15300 15800 

ASSISTANT TO LAW CLERK, HOUSE OF COMMONS 
From: 8120 8540 8960 9380 9800 

To: 8760 9120 9480 9880 10300 



Respectfully submitted, 



RUTH E. ADDISON, 

Commissioner. 



ROLAND MICHENER, 

Speaker of the House of Commons. 



By Mr. Speaker, — Report of the Civil Service Commission (English and 
French), as follows: 

CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION 
CANADA 

February 21, 1962. 

To the Honourable the Members of the House of Commons 

The Civil Service Commission has the honour to submit the following 
report. 

In accordance with the provisions of Sections 11 and 62 of the Civil 
Service Act, it is recommended that the rates of compensation for each of the 
classes listed hereunder be revised to the rates indicated immediately there- 
under, effective July 1, 1961, subject to the following provisions: 

1. That the rate of pay shall be determined as follows: 

(a) Each employee in the classes specified shall be paid at the salary rate 
shown immediately below the salary rate at which he was being paid 
on the effective date, or, if appointed after the effective date, the 
salary rate shown immediately below the salary rate at which he was 
being paid on the date of appointment. 

(b) An employee who is promoted in any of the classes concerned with 
effect on or prior to the effective date shall be considered for pay 
purposes as having been paid at a rate of pay determined in accordance 
with the Civil Service Act and Regulations. 



216 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

(c) Except as provided in subsection (d), the present increase date of 
employees shall not be affected by this order and an employee shall 
retain any benefits to which he would otherwise be eligible under 
the terms of Order in Council of April 30, 1946, P.C. 23/1700, as 
amended. 

(d) For the purpose of calculating a due date for salary increase for an 
employee who is paid at a lesser rate where more than one rate in 
the present range are revised to a common rate in the new range 
the effective date of the revision shall be regarded as the date of 
last increase. 

2. That the increase shall be paid on the above basis in respect of the period 
commencing on and after the effective date to: 

(a) An employee on strength on the date of approval provided, however, 
that an employee may receive the benefit of Section 1 only once. 

(b) A former employee whose services had been terminated during the 
said period because of: 

(i) lay-off, 
(ii) retirement, or 

(iii) release of the employee for a reason that, in the opinion of the 
appropriate deputy head, was beyond the control of the employee. 

(c) The estate of a former employee who has died during the said period. 

3. That no change shall be made as a result of this revision in the salary or 
other remuneration of any person employed under the provisions of Section 39 
of the Civil Service Act. 

4. That this revision does not affect any order by virtue of which a terminable 
allowance is paid. 

CATALOGUING LIBRARIAN 1 
REFERENCE LIBRARIAN 1 

From: 4200 4380 4560 4740 4920 
To: 4560 4740 4920 5160 

CATALOGUING LIBRARIAN 2 
REFERENCE LIBRARIAN 2 

From: 5160 5400 5640 5880 
To: 5160 5400 5640 5940 

CATALOGUING LIBRARIAN 3 
REFERENCE LIBRARIAN 3 

From: 5700 5940 6180 6420 
To: 5700 5940 6240 6540 

To apply to present incumbents 

5640 5940 6240 6540 

To apply to future appointments 

REFERENCE LIBRARIAN 4 

From: 6180 6420 6660 6900 
To: 6240 6540 6840 7140 



A.D. 1962 THURSDAY, 8th MARCH 217 

REFERENCE LIBRARIAN 5 

CHIEF CATALOGUING LIBRARIAN 

From: 6540 6840 7140 7500 
To: 7140 7500 7860 8220 

CHIEF REFERENCE LIBRARIAN 

From: 7620 7980 8340 8700 
To: 8220 8580 8940 9300 

ASSISTANT LIBRARIAN, ENGLISH, LIBRARY OF PARLIAMENT 
ASSISTANT LIBRARIAN, FRENCH, LIBRARY OF PARLIAMENT 

From: 8120 8540 8960 9380 9800 

To: 8760 9120 9480 9880 10300 

Respectfully submitted, 

RUTH E. ADDISON, 

Commissioner. 
ROLAND MICHENER, 

Speaker of the House of Commons. 

By Mr. Harkness, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, for Mr. 
Hamilton (Qu'Appelle), — Report on Activities under the Maritime Marshland 
Rehabilitation Act for the year ended March 31, 1961, pursuant to section 9 
of the said Act, chapter 175, R.S.C., 1952. 



At 10.02 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until tomorrow at 11.00 o'clock a.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, FRIDAY, 9th MARCH, 1962. 



11.00 o'clock a.m. 

Prayers. 

Mr. Hees, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, laid before the House, 
— Report entitled: Private and Public Investment in Canada — Outlook 1962 
and Regional Estimates. 



Mr. Balcer, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, laid before the House, 
— Draft Arrangement with the Canadian National Railway Company, as to 
the Terms and Conditions under which the Company will act as the Agent 
of the Crown for the Construction, Maintenance, Management, and Operation 
of the Gaspe Railway, under Bill C-67 now before the House. 



Bill C-67, An Act to authorize the Construction and Operation on behalf 
of Her Majesty of a line of railway in the Province of Quebec between Matane 
and Ste. Anne des Monts, was again considered in Committee of the Whole, 
and reported without amendment. 



By unanimous consent, Mr. Balcer, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, 
laid before the House, — Copy of an Agreement, dated July 22, 1909, between 
His Majesty the King, represented by the Minister of Railways and Canals, 
and the Matane and Gaspe Railway Company. 



Mr. Balcer, seconded by Mr. Churchill, moved, — That Bill C-67, An Act 
to authorize the Construction and Operation on behalf of Her Majesty of a 
line of railway in the Province of Quebec between Matane and Ste. Anne des 
Monts, be now read a third time and do pass. 

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220 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

And the question being proposed; 

Mr. Fisher, seconded by Mr. Martin (Timmins), moved, — That this bill 
be not now read a third time but that it be referred back to the Committee 
of the Whole with instructions to add thereto, immediately after clause six 
thereof, a clause seven to provide: "That the coming into force of this bill 
be deferred until such time, not exceeding one year from this date, as the 
Standing Committee on Ptailways, Canals and Telegraph Lines has under- 
taken a study of, and reported upon, the feasibility of expending the monies 
authorized by this bill in such a way as to provide for increased economic 
development of, and more appropriate transportation facilities for, Gaspe 
Peninsula." 

Mr. Acting Deputy Speaker (Mr. Chown): Perhaps one of the honourable 
gentlemen in the House would be prepared to assist the Chair in arriving at 
a decision as to whether or not this motion is in order, particularly with 
reference to the question of whether or not it introduces new material to the 
bill itself. 

And debate arising on the point of order; 

RULING BY MR. ACTING DEPUTY SPEAKER 

Mr. Acting Deputy Speaker: The Chair was in some difficulty in con- 
sidering this amendment because there was a reasonable doubt as to whether 
the material introduced was or was not extraneous to the purpose of the bill. 
I am grateful to honourable Members who have assisted me in arriving 
at a decision. I want to refer the House to May's 16th Edition, where the 
paragraph at the top of page 578 reads as follows: "As the debate on the 
third reading should be confined to the contents of the bill, reasoned amend- 
ments which raise matters not included in the provisions of the bill are not 
permissible." 

This is the rather fine point over which I was having some difficulty. 
The citation read to the House by the Solicitor General is, however, a little 
more mandatory in its wording. I shall quote only part of what the Honourable 
gentleman read from Citation 418 of Beauchesne's 4th Edition: "On the second 
reading of a bill, an amendment may be moved expressing opinions as to any 
circumstances connected with its introduction or prosecution, or seeking further 
information in relation to the bill by committees or commissioners, the produc- 
tion of papers or other evidence, or the opinion of judges. This cannot be 
done on the third reading because it is not directly connected with any provi- 
sion of the bill." 

These are the words which satisfy me it would be difficult to admit this 
amendment as a proper one. Accordingly, I must rule that it is out of order. 

And debate continuing on the main motion, — That Bill C-67, An Act to 
authorize the Construction and Operation on behalf of Her Majesty of a line 
of railway in the Province of Quebec between Matane and Ste. Anne des 
Monts, be now read a third time and do pass; 



(At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Private Members' Business was called pursuant to 
Standing Order 15(3) as provisionally amended) 

(Public Bills) 

The Order for the second reading of Bill C-18, An Act respecting the 
Printing of Negotiable Instruments in the English and the French Languages, 
having been read and not proceeded with, it dropped to the foot of the list 
on the Order Paper. 



A.D. 1962 FRIDAY, 9th MARCH 221 

The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-19, An Act to 
amend the Small Loans Act; 

Mr. Argue, seconded by Mr. Tucker, moved, — That the said bill be now 
read a second time. 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



At six o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until Monday next at 2.30 o'clock p.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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No. 38 

JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, MONDAY, 12th MARCH, 1962. 



2.30 o'clock p.m. 

Prayers. 

On motion of Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), seconded by Mr. Churchill, the 
Reports of the Civil Service Commission concerning certain positions on the 
staffs of the Parliamentary Restaurant, the House of Commons, and the Library 
of Parliament, laid upon the Table of the House, Thursday, March 8, 1962, were 
approved. 



The following Notice of Motion having been called was transferred to 
Government Orders for consideration at the next sitting of the House pursuant 
to Standing Order 21(2): 

That a Special Committee, to be designated, be appointed to consider with 
Mr. Speaker the procedure of this House for the purpose of suggesting any 
changes that may be desirable to assure the more expeditious dispatch of 
public business, and, in particular, to consider the desirability of repealing 
Standing Order No. 33 (closure rule), with power to send for persons, papers 
and records, and to report from time to time its findings and recommendations 
to the House. — The Prime Minister. 



The following Questions were made Orders for Returns under the provi- 
sions of Standing Order 39(4) as provisionally amended: 

Question No. 229, by Mr. Herridge, — Order of the House for a Return show- 
ing: 1. What are the names, present positions, qualifications, degrees, and 
experience in the construction or operation of hydro plants, dams, etc., of the 



224 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

officials in the head office in Ottawa of the Hydraulics Division of the Water 
Resources Branch of the Department of Northern Affairs and National 
Resources? 

2. Have any of these officials ever been employed in any capacity with 
a foreign government, or with an agency of a foreign government, or in the 
water resources field in a foreign land, or with any private corporation at 
home or abroad; and, if so, what are the names of the officials concerned, 
and the details of their foreign employment? 

^Question No. 255, by Mr. Fisher, — Order of the House for a Return show- 
ing: 1. What is the difference in substance between the duties of a "messenger" 
and a "confidential messenger"? 

2. Why is the minimum and maximum rate for a messenger so much lower 
than that for a confidential messenger? 

3. Why is there a higher rate for a messenger who was appointed prior 
to April 1, 1955? 

4. How many people are there employed in Ottawa at this date under 
the three categories of messenger, messenger appointed prior to April 1, 
1955, and confidential messenger? 

5. Has any consideration been given recently to rationalizing the salary 
rates of messengers in the government service in order to achieve equity 
amongst people doing the same or similar jobs? 

*Question No. 267, by Mr. Boulanger, — Order of the House for a Return 
showing: Has the Department of Trade and Commerce set up a delegation which 
is to proceed to New Zealand and Australia; and, if so, (a) When, and for 
what purpose was such a delegation formed (b) How many members comprise 
the said delegation (c) What are their names, their respective provinces, and 
what organizations do they represent? 

Mr. Hees, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, presented, — Return to 
the foregoing Order. 



The House resumed debate on the proposed motion of Mr. Balcer, seconded 
by Mr. Churchill, — That Bill C-67, An Act to authorize the Construction and 
Operation on behalf of Her Majesty of a line of railway in the Province of 
Quebec between Matane and Ste. Anne des Monts, be now read a third time 
and do pass. 

And debate continuing; 

Mr. Regier, seconded by Mr. Martin (Timmins), moved in amendment 
thereto, — That the word "now" be deleted and the words "this day six months" 
added at the end of the question. 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said proposed amend- 
ment, it was negatived on the following division: 

Yeas 
Messrs: 

Fisher, Martin (Timmins), Pitman, Winch — 7. 

Herridge, Peters, Regier, 



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MONDAY, 12th MARCH 



225 



Nays 



Messrs: 



Badanai, 

Balcer, 

Baldwin, 

Baskin, 

Batten, 

Bell (Carleton), 

Bell (Saint John- 
Albert), 

Bigg, 

Bissonnette, 

Broome, 

Browne (St. John's 
West), 

Browne (Vancouver- 
Kings way), 

Brunsden, 

Campbell 

(Lambton-Kent) , 

Cardiff, 

Cardin, 

Caron, 

Carter, 

Casselman (Mrs.), 

Cathers, 

Charlton, 

Chatterton, 

Chevrier, 

Churchill, 

Clancy, 

Cooper, 

Crouse, 

Danforth, 

Diefenbaker, 

Dinsdale, 

Drysdale, 



Dubois, 

Dumas, 

English, 

Fairclough (Mrs.), 

Fane, 

Fleming (Eglinton), 

Fleming (Okanagan- 

Revelstoke), 
Flemming (Royal), 
Flynn, 
Forbes, 
Frechette, 
Grafftey, 
Granger, 
Grills, 
Halpenny, 
Hamilton 

(Notre-Dame- 

de-Grace), 
Hanbidge, 
Harkness, 
Hees, 

Henderson, 
Hicks, 
Hodgson, 
Howe, 
Jones, 
Jung, 
Keays, 
Kindt, 
Knowles, 
Korchinski, 
Kucherepa, 
Lahaye, 
Lambert, 



Leduc, 

Legere, 

Macdonald (Mrs.), 

Macdonnell, 

Maclnnis, 

MacLean (Queens), 

MacLean (Winnipeg 
North Centre), 

MacLellan, 

MacRae, 

McBain, 

McCleave, 

McFarlane, 

McGee, 

McGrath, 

Mcllraith, 

Mcintosh, 

McLennan, 

McMillan, 

McPhillips, 

McQuillan, 

Maloney, 

Mandziuk, 

Martel, 

Matthews, 

Monteith (Perth), 

Montgomery, 

Muir (Cape 
Breton North 
and Victoria), 

Muir (Lisgar), 

Murphy, 

Nasserden, 

Nugent, 

O'Leary, 



Ormiston, 

Pascoe, 

Paul, 

Payne, 

Phillips, 

Pigeon, 

Rapp, 

Regnier, 

Ricard, 

Roberge, 

Robichaud, 

Robinson, 

Rogers, 

Sevigny, 

Simpson, 

Skoreyko, 

Smallwood, 

Smith (Lincoln), 

Smith (Winnipeg 

North), 
Southam, 
Starr, 
Stefanson, 
Stewart, 
Tardif, 
Taylor, 
Thomas, 
Tucker, 
Webb, 
Webster, 
Weichel, 
White, 
Woolliams, 
Wratten— 128. 



And the question being put on the main motion, it was agreed to, on 
division. 

Accordingly, the said bill was read the third time and passed. 

(At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Private Members' Business was called pursuant to 
Standing Order 15(3) as provisionally amended) 

(Notices of Motions) 

Mr. Winch, seconded by Mr. Regier, moved, — Be it resolved that the House 
of Commons notes the important issues of responsibility and jurisdiction over 
the issuance of leases, collection of royalties and control of the continental 
shelf, being the seaward borders of various provinces and the Northern Ter- 
ritories, and further recognizes that a federal-provincial dispute has already 
arisen in connection thereto as both federal and coastal provincial authorities 
claim sovereignty. 

It is therefore recommended, as the opinion of this House, that the govern- 
ment take under advisement a settlement of the dispute in the following manner: 

(1) That the issue of sovereignty over the continental shelf shall be a 
matter of immediate negotiations between the parties concerned and; 



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226 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

that failing an early agreement the matter shall be referred to the 
Supreme Court of Canada, with an understanding that its decision 
shall be implemented by the introduction of required legislation and/or 
an amendment to the British North America Act. 

(2) That as the continental shelf issue involves the federal government 
and several provincial governments, that in the interim period pending 
settlement, agreement be reached that the federal authority issue 
exploratory leases. 

(3) That all receipts from leases or royalties shall be held in escrow 
pending a decision on sovereignty either by dominion-provincial agree- 
ment or decision of the Supreme Court. — (Notice of Motion No. 10). 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



The House resolved itself again into Committee of Supply. 

(In the Committee) 
The following resolution was adopted: 

FURTHER SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES (3), 1961-62 

FORESTRY 
Forest Research Branch 
635 Operation and Maintenance — Further amount required . . $ 80,000 00 

Resolution to be reported. 



The said resolution was reported and concurred in, and the Committee 
of Supply obtained leave to sit again at the next sitting of the House. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Speaker, — Report of the Civil Service Commission (English and 
French), as follows: 

CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION 
CANADA 

March 5, 1962. 

To the Honourable the Members of the House of Commons 

The Civil Service Commission has the honour to submit the following 
report. 

Pursuant to the provisions of Sections 60 and 61 of the Civil Service Act, 
the Civil Service Commission seeks approval for the exclusion of position 
LP-A-30 from the operation of Section 12 of the Act, to provide for the 
promotion of Miss Yvette D. Chevrier as Cataloguing Librarian 1 at $4,560 per 



A.D. 1962 MONDAY, 12th MARCH 227 

annum, the third rate in the class range, effective January 3, 1961. At the time 
of Miss Chevrier's promotion, $4,560 per annum was the recruiting rate in 
effect for the Librarian 1, which carries the same salary range as Cataloguing 
Librarian 1. It is considered that in all other respects this position should be 
subject to the provisions of the Civil Service Act. 



Respectfully submitted, 



SAM HUGHES, 

Chairman. 



RUTH E. ADDISON, 

Commissioner. 
ROLAND MICHENER, 

Speaker of the House of Commons. 

By Mr. Dinsdale, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, by command 
of His Excellency the Governor-General, — Report of the Department of 
Northern Affairs and National Resources for the year ended March 31, 1961, 
pursuant to section 11 of the Department of Northern Affairs and National 
Resources Act, chapter 4, Statutes of Canada, 1953-54. (English and French). 

By Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — 
Report of the Bank of Canada, and Statement of Accounts certified by the 
Auditors, for the year ended December 31, 1961, pursuant to section 27(3) 
of the Bank of Canada Act, chapter 13, R.S.C., 1952, as amended 1953-54. 
(English and French). 

By the Examiner of Petitions for Private Bills, — Tenth Report, pursuant 
to Standing Order 100(2), as follows: 

The Examiner of Petitions for Private Bills has the honour to report 
that the following petitioners have complied with the requirements of Stand- 
ing Order 96: 

Canada Security Assurance Company for an Act to amend its Act of 
Incorporation. 

William Edward Green and two others, all of the City of Hamilton, 
Ontario, and Roy Henderson Cuzner and one other, of the City of Ottawa, 
Ontario, for an Act to incorporate Greymac Mortgage Corporation. 

Maurice Frederick Strong and two others, of the City of Calgary, Alberta, 
and Albert Benjamin Rutter Lawrence and one other, of the City of Ottawa, 
Ontario, for an Act to incorporate Polaris Pipe Lines. 

The Governing Council of The Salvation Army, Canada East, and The 
Governing Council of The Salvation Army, Canada West, for an Act to amend 
their Acts of Incorporation. 

By the Examiner of Petitions for Private Bills, — Eleventh Report, pursuant 
to Standing Order 100(2), as follows: 

The Examiner of Petitions for Private Bills has the honour to report that 
the following petitioners for divorce Acts have complied with the requirements 
of Standing Order 96: 

Carmen Lister Abrams, wife of Theodore Martin Abrams of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Agnes Blumenthal Agai, wife of Nicolas Agai of Montreal, Quebec. 

Pardo Belpulso of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Rosa Ruta Belpulso. 

Margit Schlosszer Bene, wife of Janos Gabor Bene of Chibougamau, 
Quebec. 

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Virginia Waters Finnie, wife of Alexander MacKenzie Finnie of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Mary Sheppard Gallagher, wife of Thomas Joseph Gallagher of St. John's, 
Newfoundland. 

Mary Yvonne Agarand Giguere, wife of Claude Giguere of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Amy Sandra Jaques Glendinning, wife of Gerald Ronald Glendinning of 
Hudson, Quebec. 

Barbara Gladys George Gregory, wife of Marshall Donald Ward Gregory 
of Lake Selby, Quebec. 

George Cecil Horton of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Audrey Josephine 
Bach Horton. 

Muriel Howarth Bazley Hulbig, wife of William John Hulbig of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Ion Ignatescu of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Saveta Palagian Ignatescu. 

Phyllis Carol Green Johnston, wife of William Johnston of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Anita Marie Virginie Bouffard Leroux, wife of Andre Leroux of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Margaret Rose Hamel McDuff, wife of Leonard Edward McDuff of Mont- 
real, Quebec. 

Beverley Ann Gall Maughan, wife of John Frederick Maughan of West- 
mount, Quebec. 

Mabel Lucille Holland Mills, wife of Thomas Mitchell Mills of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Betty Solomon Naimovitch, wife of Max Issie Naimovitch (Naimo) of St. 
Laurent, Quebec. 

Paul Neron of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Denise Riopel Neron. 

Hugh O'Connor of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Kathleen West Taylor 
O'Connor. 

Charles Harold Page of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Carole Ann Gollan 
Page. 

Rosi Irma Koetke Parrouty, wife of Andre Parrouty of Montreal, Quebec. 

Susanne Markovits Reiner, wife of Charles Reiner of Montreal, Quebec. 

Marie Theresa Keefe Sckyra, wife of Erwin Sckyra of Longueuil, Quebec. 

Barbara Ann Bell Sobrian, wife of Merlyn Arnold Sobrian of Shawinigan 
Falls, Quebec. 

Eloise Warner Sonne, wife of Raymond Robert Sonne of Montreal, Quebec. 
Jennie Cmikiewics Zajko, wife of Joseph Stanley Zajko of Montreal, 
Quebec. 



At 10.03 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until tomorrow at 2.30 o'clock p.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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OTTAWA, TUESDAY, 13th MARCH, 1962. 

2.30 o'clock p.m. 



Prayers. 



The House resolved itself again into Committee of Supply; 

And the House continuing in Committee; 

At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker took the Chair. 



(Private Members' Business was called pursuant to Standing Order 15(3) 
as provisionally amended) 

(Private Bills) 

Bill S-6, An Act to incorporate Cochin Pipe Lines Ltd., was considered 
in Committee of the Whole, reported without amendment, read the third time 
and passed. 



By unanimous consent, it was ordered that divorce Bills SD-1 to SD-102 
inclusive, now standing for second reading, be set down for consideration on 
Tuesday next. 

(Public Bills) 

The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-21, An Act to 
amend the Pension Act (Judicial Appeal) ; 

Mr. Mcintosh, seconded by Mr. Webb, moved, — That the said bill be now 
read a second time. 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



230 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

The Committee of Supply resumed. 

(In the Committee) 
The following resolutions were adopted: 

FURTHER SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES (3), 1961-62 
CITIZENSHIP AND IMMIGRATION 

Indian Affairs Branch 

Indian Agencies — 

618 Operation and Maintenance — Further amount required $ 136,000 00 

619 Construction or Acquisition of Buildings, Works, Land, 

and Equipment — Further amount required . . . . 342,550 00 

Welfare of Indians — 

620 Operation and Maintenance — Further amount required 188,000 00 

621 Construction or Acquisition of Buildings, Works, Land 

and Equipment — -Further amount required . . . . 294,500 00 

Economic Development — 

622 Operation and Maintenance — To extend the purposes 

of Vote 61 of the Main Estimates, for 1961-62 to 
authorize the Minister of Citizenship and Immigra- 
tion to provide, in respect of Indian commercial 
activities, for the instruction and supervision of 
Indians, the furnishing of raw materials, the 
purchase of finished goods and, notwithstanding 
any other Act, the sale of such finished goods; and 
to provide a further amount of 91,000 00 

Education — 

623 Administration, Operation and Maintenance — Further 

amount required 633,380 00 

Resolutions to be reported. 



The said resolutions were reported and concurred in, and the Committee 
of Supply obtained leave to sit again at the next sitting of the House. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Balcer, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Report of the 
Board of Transport Commissioners for Canada for the year ended December 
31, 1961, pursuant to section 31 of the Railway Act, chapter 234, R.S.C., 1952. 

By Mr. Dorion, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Return to an 
Order of the House, dated February 5, 1962, (*Question No. 75) showing: 1. 
Since December 1, 1961, has any vehicle owned by the government or any 
department, agency, or branch thereof crossed any picket line in British 



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Columbia established by the Retail, Wholesale and Department Store Union 
(AFL-CIO/CLC) against Taylor, Pearson and Carson Corporation; and, if so, 
was this done with the knowledge and consent of the government, or of the 
department, agency or branch involved? 

2. Are any steps being taken to prevent a recurrence of this situation; 
and, if so, what are they? 

By Mr. Dorion, — Return to an Order of the House, dated February 7, 1962, 
(* Question No. 82) showing: 1. Has the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation 
received a protest from La Societe des Amis de Maurice-L. Duplessis? 

2. If so, when, and about what? 

3. To whom was the protest sent? 

4. Has the government itself, distinct from the CBC, received any such 
protest? 

5. Has either the government or the CBC received any representations 
about the matter in protest from any federal Ministers of the Crown, acting 
as members or agents of La Societe des Amis de Maurice-L. Duplessis? 

By Mr. Dorion, — Return to an Order of the House, dated February 5, 1962, 
(Question No. 87) showing: 1. Have cleaning operations, on the Senneville 
River and the Small Senneville River, in the counties of Villeneuve and 
Chapleau, ever been carried out by the federal government between 1949 and 
1957? 

2. If so, (a) by whom were such cleaning operations requested, and by 
whom were they recommended to the federal government then in office (b) 
who was the foreman in charge of each particular project (c) what was the 
total cost of each project (d) what wages were paid to each foreman and 
other persons employed at such works (e) who were the suppliers of materials, 
equipment, or other services of any kind at each place, and what amount 
was paid to each supplier? 

By Mr. Dorion, — Return to an Order of the House, dated February 5, 1962, 
(Question No. 88) showing: 1. Has construction of a wharf at Macamic Lake, 
in the county of Chapleau, or cleaning operations near Macamic Lake, or in 
the vicinity of the town of Macamic and the municipality of Royal-Roussillon, 
ever been carried out by the federal government between 1949 and 1957? 

2. If so, (a) by whom were such works requested, and by whom were 
they recommended to the federal government then in office (b) who was 
the foreman in charge of each particular project (c) what was the total cost 
of each project (d) what wages were paid to each foreman and other persons 
employed at such works (e) who were the suppliers of materials, equipment, 
or other services of any kind at each place, and what amount was paid to 
each supplier? 

By Mr. Dorion, — Return to an Order of the House, dated February 7, 1962, 
(* Question No. 119) showing: 1. Since July 1, 1961, has the Premier of British 
Columbia or any member of the British Columbia government approached the 
federal government asking that an agreement be entered into between the two 
said governments for the building of a highway between Prince Rupert, B.C., 
and Jasper, Alberta, under a plan of financial participation similar to that 
existing pursuant to the Trans-Canada Highway Act; and, if so, upon what 
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232 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

2. Were any proposals made by the said British Columbia representatives 
for a plan of financial participation and, if so, what are the details thereof? 

3. What reply, if any, was given by the federal government? 



At 10.09 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until tomorrow at 2.30 o'clock p.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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OTTAWA, WEDNESDAY, 14th MARCH, 1962. 

2.30 o'clock p.m. 



Prayers. 



Mr. Cathers, from the Standing Committee on Banking and Commerce, 
presented the Second Report of the said Committee, which is as follows: 

Your Committee has considered the following bills and has agreed to 
report them without amendment: 

Bill S-3, An Act respecting The Mutual Life Assurance Company of 
Canada. 

Bill S-4, An Act to incorporate Westmount Life Insurance Company. 

Bill S-7, An Act respecting Muttart Development Corporation Ltd. 

Bill S-8, An Act respecting Sun Life Assurance Company of Canada. 



Mr. Broome, seconded by Mr. McPhillips, by leave of the House, introduced 
Bill C-76, An Act respecting Government Purchase Contracts (f.o.b. Delivery), 
which was read the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next 
sitting of the House. 



Mr. Broome, seconded by Mr. McPhillips, by leave of the House, introduced 
Bill C-77, An Act to provide for a Canadian Preference in Government Con- 
struction, Purchase and Service Contracts, which was read the first time and 
ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House. 



Notices of Motions for the Production of Papers (Nos. 2 and 28) having 
been called were allowed to stand at the request of the government. 



234 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

On motion of Mr. Mcllraith, seconded by Mr. Bourget, it was ordered, — 
That there be laid before this House a copy of the Strategic List referred to 
by the Minister of Trade and Commerce, page 708, Hansard, February 9, 1962. 
— (Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers No. 18). 



On motion of Mr. Winch, seconded by Mr. Regier, it was ordered, — That 
there be laid before this House copies of all orders, correspondence, telegrams, 
and other documents issued since January 1, 1961, by the Minister of Finance, 
Treasury Board, or others relative to wage-rates status of building tradesmen, 
such as electricians, steam fitters, carpenters, plumbers, machinists, etc. — 
(Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers No. 21). 



On motion of Mr. Mcllraith, seconded by Mr. Bourget, it was ordered, — 
That an humble Address be presented to His Excellency praying that he will 
cause to be laid before this House a copy of Order in Council P.C. 1961-1012 
of July 13, 1961, referred to by the Minister of Agriculture on page 1247 of 
Hansard on February 26, 1962. — (Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers 
No. 24). 

Mr. Harkness, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, for Mr. Hamilton 
(Qu'Appelle), presented, — Return to the foregoing Address. 



On motion of Mr. Caron for Mr. Robichaud, seconded by Mr. Bourget, it 
was ordered, — That an humble Address be presented to His Excellency praying 
that he will cause to be laid before this House a copy of all correspondence 
exchanged between the Government of Canada, or any agency thereof, and 
the Government of Nova Scotia, or any agency thereof, since January 1, 1956, 
on the subject of the construction of a breakwater-causeway at Port Hood, 
Inverness County, Nova Scotia. — (Notice of Motion for the Production of 
Papers No. 27). 



The House resolved itself again into Committee of Supply, and progress 
having been made and reported, the Committee obtained leave to sit again 
at the next sitting of the House. 



(At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Private Members' Business was called pursuant to 
Standing Order 15(3) as provisionally amended) 

(Notices of Motions) 

Item numbered 11, having been called for the first time, was allowed to 
stand at the request of the government. 



Mr. Rapp, seconded by Mr. Nasserden, moved, — That, in the opinion of 
this House, the government should consider the advisability of amending the 
Unemployment Insurance Act so that seasonal farm labourers would receive 
benefits similar to those paid at the present time to seasonal fishermen. — 
(Notice of Motion No. 12). 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



A.D. 1962 WEDNESDAY, 14th MARCH 235 

Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Dorion, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Return to an 
Address, dated February 28, 1962, to His Excellency the Governor-General 
(Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers No. 13) for a copy of all cor- 
respondence between the Minister of Transport and the President of Quebecair 
Limited and/or any other person or persons since January 1, 1960, concerning 
the granting of exclusive rights to Quebecair Limited to operate between Seven 
Islands and Quebec. 

By Mr. Dorion, — Return to an Address, dated February 28, 1962, to His 
Excellency the Governor-General (Notice of Motion for the Production of 
Papers No. 14) for a copy of all correspondence between the Minister of Trans- 
port and the President of Quebecair Limited and/or any other person or 
persons since January 1, 1960, concerning the application for a subsidy or a 
payment for its winter operations or for any assistance whatsoever to Quebecair 
Limited for its air services on the Lower St. Lawrence. 



At six o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until tomorrow at 2.30 o'clock p.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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OTTAWA, THURSDAY, 15th MARCH, 1962. 



2.30 o'clock p.m. 
Prayers. 

STATEMENT BY MR. SPEAKER 

Mr. Speaker: If the House will give me leave, I shall be glad to make a 
brief statement about experiments in reporting our proceedings by mechanical 
means pursuant to the authority given by the House last April. 

My reason for suggesting what might be called a progress report is to 
remove doubts which may have been left in the minds of honourable Members 
yesterday when the matter was raised, but not proceeded with, as a question 
of privilege. Is it agreed that I may make a brief statement? 

Some honourable Members: Agreed. 

Mr. Speaker: If honourable Members will refer to page 3963 of Hansard 
of April 25, 1961, or the Journals of that year at page 471, they will see the 
following: 

"Mr. Speaker: By leave of the House, and I should first inform the House 
that I have already consulted the Party Leaders, I should like to ask for 
the approval of the House to carry out some experiments in reporting the 
proceedings of the House by using tape recording machines in conjunction 
with our sound amplification system. The purpose is to determine whether 
mechanical recording can usefully be used in combination with shorthand 
reporting, as is being done in some other jurisdictions, and to develop this 
information for guidance of the Committee on Procedure and of the House 
itself. As I have said, nothing is contemplated other than experimental record- 
ings. Is it agreed? 

"Whereupon, it was agreed to." 

Before the July adjournment some experiments with dictaphone machines 
were made in the English and French Debates offices with the co-operation 



238 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

of the editors and certain members of the staff. These experiments were not 
reported last session to the Committee on Procedure because they were not 
considered conclusive, and the Committee itself had its hands full with other 
business. 

To continue the experiments, the assistance of the Management Analysis 
Division of the Civil Service Commission was requested. This request was 
initiated by the Clerk on October 5th, 1961, and the terms of reference were 
as follows: "To survey the organization, methods and procedures of the English 
Debates Reporting Branch with a view to making recommendations for their 
improvement." 

Mr. A. M. Ervin was assigned to the work. He has undertaken a fairly 
broad study of reporting methods elsewhere as well as in our own House. 
The recordings which are now going on began on Thursday, March 1, and 
continued to March 9. The second stage will begin on March 15 and will run 
until March 23 and conclude at that point. The method is to take ten-minute 
sample recordings at intervals of approximately one hour during the daily 
sessions. 

In all these experiments, the belts or discs from which the proceedings 
are recorded have been closely guarded and put to no outside, ulterior or 
improper use. The belts and tapes from the first experiment have been destroyed 
and those from Mr. Ervin's experiments will be turned over to the Speaker 
with his report. 

There has been nothing secret about the experiments other than to main- 
tain the privacy of the records. 

I think perhaps honourable Members would wish me to add that what we 
are doing should not be taken in any way as a reflection on our excellent 
reporting and editorial staff, but rather as an attempt at finding possible means 
of assisting them in their difficult duties. 

The following Notice of Motion having been called was transferred to 
Government Orders for consideration at the next sitting of the House pursuant 
to Standing Order 21(2): 

That the Annual Report of the Governor of the Bank of Canada, together 
with the Statement of Accounts, for the year ended the 31st of December, 
1961, laid on the Table on the 12th day of March, 1962, be referred to the 
Standing Committee on Banking and Commerce. — The Minister of Finance. 



By unanimous consent, Mr. Starr, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, 
laid before the House, — Project Summaries by Provinces under Technical 
and Vocational Training Agreements for the period April 1, 1961, to March 14, 
1962. 



The House resolved itself again into Committee of Supply; 

And the House continuing in Committee; 

At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker took the Chair. 

(Private Members' Business was called pursuant to Standing Order 15(3) 
as provisionally amended) 

(Private Bills) 

Mr. Weichel, seconded by Mr. McFarlane, moved, — That Mr. Speaker do 
now leave the Chair for the House to go into Committee of the Whole on 
Private Bills [pursuant to Standing Order 54(1)']; which was agreed to. 






A.D. 1962 THURSDAY, 15th MARCH 239 

The following bills were considered in Committee of the Whole, reported 
without amendment, read the third time and passed: 

Bill S-3, An Act respecting The Mutual Life Assurance Company of 
Canada. 

Bill S-4, An Act to incorporate Westmount Life Insurance Company. 

Bill S-7, An Act respecting Muttart Development Corporation Ltd. 

Bill S-8, An Act respecting Sun Life Assurance Company of Canada. 

(Public Bills) 

The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-22, An Act to 
amend the Criminal Code (Corporal Punishment); 

Mr. McGee, seconded by Mr. Henderson, moved, — That the said bill be 
now read a second time. 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



The Committee of Supply resumed, and progress having been made and 
reported, the Committee obtained leave to sit again at the next sitting of the 
House. 



A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Senate had passed the following bills to which the concurrence of this House 
is desired: 

Bill S-5, An Act to incorporate Evangelical Mennonite Mission Conference. 
— Mr. Muir (Lisgar). 

Bill S-9, An Act to incorporate Brock Acceptance Company. — Mr. Smith 
(Winnipeg North). 

Bill S-10, An Act to incorporate Gerand Acceptance Company. — Mr. Smith 
(Winnipeg North). 

The said bills were deemed to have been read the first time and ordered 
for a second reading at the next sitting of the House pursuant to Standing 
Order 103(2). 



A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Senate had passed Bill C-49, An Act to amend the Small Businesses Loans 
Act, without amendment. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Dorion, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Return to an 
Address, dated February 7, 1962, to His Excellency the Governor-General 
(Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers No. 11) for a copy of all cor- 
respondence, telegrams, and other documents exchanged between the federal 
government and any provincial government since January 1, 1961, regarding 
federal aid for the construction of a second Trans-Canada Highway system. 



240 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

By Mr. Dorion, — Return to an Address, dated February 14, 1962, to His 
Excellency the Governor-General (Notice of Motion for the Production of 
Papers No. 15) for a copy of the correspondence exchanged between the federal 
government and the government of the Province of Quebec, relating to the 
present Winter Works Program. 



At ten o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until tomorrow at 11.00 o'clock a.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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OTTAWA, FRIDAY, 16th MARCH, 1962. 



11.00 o'clock a.m. 

Prayers. 

The House resolved itself again into Committee of Supply; 
And the House continuing in Committee; 

Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair, and the Chairman of the Committee (Mr. 
Martineau) made the following Report: — 

"While the Committee of Supply was considering Estimates of the Depart- 
ment of Labour, the honourable Member for Hull (Mr. Caron) accused the 
Chairman of displaying partiality in his rulings. The honourable Member for 
Hull was invited to withdraw these remarks but persisted in his refusal to 
do so." 

And the said Report having been submitted to the House; 

The honourable Member for Hull, after briefly addressing the House, with- 
drew from the Chamber. 

Whereupon Mr. Churchill, seconded by Mr. Flynn, moved, — That the 
honourable Member for Hull (Mr. Caron) be suspended from the House for 
the remainder of this day's sitting. 

And the question being put on the said motion, it was agreed to on the 
following division: 

Yeas 

Messrs: 

Aiken, Bell (Carleton), Browne (St. John's Campbell 

Allard, Bell (Saint John- West), Lamb ton-Kent) , 

Balcer, Albert), Brunsden, Campbell 

Baldwin, Cadieu, (Stormont), 



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Cardiff, 


Gundlock, 


McGrath, 


Phillips, 


Casselman (Mrs.), 


Hamilton 


McPhillips, 


Rapp, 


Chambers, 


(Notre-Dame- 


McQuillan, 


Regnier, 


Charlton, 


de-Grace), 


Mandziuk, 


Simpson, 


Chatterton, 


Hees, 


Matthews, 


Skoreyko, 


Churchill, 


Henderson, 


Milligan, 


Slogan, 


Clancy, 


Hicks, 


Montgomery, 


Smallwood, 


Coates, 


Kennedy, 


More, 


Smith (Lincoln), 


Creaghan, 


Kindt, 


Muir (Cape 


Smith (Winnipeg 


Crouse, 


Korchinski, 


Breton North 


North), 


Danforth, 


Lambert, 


and Victoria), 


Southam, 


Dinsdale, 


LaRue, 


Muir (Lisgar), 


Spencer, 


English, 


Letourneau, 


Nasserden, 


Starr, 


Fairclough (Mrs.), 


Macdonald (Mrs.), 


Nugent, 


Stewart, 


Fane, 


MacEwan, 


O'Leary, 


Taylor, 


Flemming (Royal), 


MacLean (Queens), 


, Ormiston, 


Thrasher, 


Flynn, 


MacRae, 


Pallett, 


Tremblay, 


Forbes, 


McBain, 


Pascoe, 


Walker, 


Fulton, 


McCleave, 


Payne, 


Woolliams — 84. 


Grafftey, 


McFarlane, 


Nays 






Messrs: 




Badanai, 


Denis, 


Mcllraith, 


Richard 


Batten, 


Dupuis, 


McMillan, 


(Ottawa East), 


Brassard 


Eudes, 


Martin (Timmins), 


Rouleau, 


(Lapointe), 


Habel, 


Peters, 


Tardif, 


Carter, 


Hellyer, 


Pickersgill, 


Tucker, 


Chevrier, 


Herridge, 


Regier, 


Winch— 24. 


Clermont, 


Leduc, 







The Committee of Supply resumed. 

(In the Committee) 
The following resolution was adopted: 

FURTHER SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES (3), 1961-62 

LABOUR 

A — Department 

Technical and Vocational Training Assistance 

636 To carry out the purposes of the Technical and Vocational 
Training Assistance Act and agreements made there- 
under — Payments to the Provinces — Further amount 
required $ 28,400,000 00 

Resolution to be reported. 



The said resolution was reported and concurred in, and the Committee 
of Supply obtained leave to sit again at the next sitting of the House. 



A.D. 1962 FRIDAY, 16th MARCH 243 

(At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Private Members' Business was called pursuant to 
Standing Order 15(3) as provisionally amended) 

(Public Bills) 

Orders numbered 1 to 9 inclusive, having been called, were allowed to 
stand at the request of the government. 



The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-32, An Act to 
amend the Broadcasting Act (Human Rights abuses remedied) ; 

Mr. Herridge, seconded by Mr. Winch, moved, — That the said bill be now 
read a second time. 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following paper having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
was laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Diefenbaker, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Summary 
of Orders in Council passed during the period February 1 to February 28, 1962. 



At 6.04 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until Monday next at 2.30 o'clock p.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 






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2.30 o'clock p.m. 

Prayers. 

Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, delivered 
a Message from His Excellency the Governor-General, which was read by 
Mr. Speaker, as follows: 

GEORGE P. VANIER 

The Governor-General transmits to the House of Commons Further 
Supplementary Estimates (4) of sums required for the service of Canada for 
the year ending on the 31st March, 1962, and, in accordance with the provisions 
of the British North America Act, 1867, the Governor-General recommends 
these Estimates to the House of Commons. 

Government House, Ottawa. 

On motion of Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), seconded by Mr. Churchill, the said 
Message and Further Supplementary Estimates (4) were referred to the Com- 
mittee of Supply. 



The following Notice of Motion having been called was transferred to 
Government Orders for consideration at the next sitting of the House pursuant 
to Standing Order 21(2): 

That the Standing Committee on Railways, Canals and Telegraph Lines 
be empowered to examine and inquire into a submission which has been 
addressed to the Chairman of the Committee by the National Legislative Com- 
mittee, International Railway Brotherhoods, concerning the provisions of section 
182 of the Railway Act and suggesting changes in the said section which would 



246 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

provide for the payment of compensation to employees affected by line 
abandonments; or by the closing or removal of any station or divisional 
point; or by the changing of operating centres or terminal points. — The Minister 
of Transport. 



The following Questions were made Orders for Returns under the provi- 
sions of Standing Order 39(4) as provisionally amended: 

Question No. 292, by Mr. Fisher, — Order of the House for a Return showing: 
Has the government recently received a request from Mr. A. R. Buckler, 
90 Park Street, Kentville, N.S., as President of the Maritime Retired Federal 
Civil Service Association, seeking an adjustment in pensions to better meet the 
present cost of living; and, if so, what was the date of the request, the name 
of the Minister who replied to it, and the substance of the reply? 

Question No. 309, by Mr. Dupuis, — Order of the House for a Return show- 
ing: 1. What amounts has the Department of National Defence paid during 
1959, 1960, and 1961 for the military training of cadets and students (militia) 
attending the schools of the Catholic School Board of Montreal? 

2. What are the names of the officers (with addresses) being paid in each 
of these schools, and the amounts paid to each of them in each of the said 
years? 

3. What amount has been paid to each of the following schools for the 
maintenance of uniforms, rifles, equipment, etc.: 

(1) Chomedey de Maisonneuve, 1820 Morgan St., Montreal; 

(2) Jean-Baptiste Meilleur, 2237 Fullum St., Montreal; 

(3) Urgel Archambault, 8300 De Teck, Montreal; 

(4) Philippe-Perrier, 5925 — 27th Avenue, Rosemont, Montreal; 

(5) Pie IX, 10919 Gariepy St., North Montreal; 

(6) Mgr. Georges Gauthier, 750 East Gouin Blvd., Montreal; 

(7) St. Viateur, 7315 DeLanaudiere St., Montreal; 

(8) Christophe-Colomb, 6891 Christophe-Colomb St., Montreal; 

(9) Le Plateau, 3700 Calixa Lavallee St., Montreal; 

(10) Louis Hebert, 6361 — 6th Avenue, Rosemont, Montreal; 

(11) St. Henri, 4105 St. James St., Montreal; 

(12) St. Luc, 5100 St. Luc, Montreal; 

(13) Simon Sanguinet, 1260 Sanguinet St., Montreal; 

(14) Louis Pasteur, 1995 Victor Dore St., Montreal? 

4. What amount has been paid to the officials of each of the said schools? 



The House resolved itself again into Committee of Supply; 

And the House continuing in Committee; 

At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker took the Chair. 



(Private Members' Business was called pursuant to Standing Order 15(3) 
as provisionally amended) 

(Notices of Motions) 

Mr. Fisher, seconded by Mr. Pitman, moved, — That the government give 
immediate consideration to the need for increasing the income of Members of 
Parliament. — (Notice of Motion No. 11). 



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And debate arising thereon, the said debate, on motion of Mr. Pallett, 
seconded by Mr. Macdonnell (Greenwood), was adjourned. 



Mr. Pickersgill, seconded by Mr. Carter, moved, — That a Special Com- 
mittee, consisting of sixteen Members to be designated later, be appointed to 
consider and recommend means of assuring greater independence to Members 
of Parliament through more effective measures to limit and control expenditures 
in the campaigns for the election of Members of the House of Commons, and 
that Standing Order 67(1) be suspended in relation thereto. — (Notice of Motion 
No. 13). 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



By unanimous consent, it was ordered that all Orders for the second reading 
of divorce bills be deferred and set down for consideration on Tuesday, March 
27, 1962. 



The Committee of Supply resumed. 

(In the Committee) 
The following resolution was adopted: 

FURTHER SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES (3), 1961-62 

LOANS, INVESTMENTS AND ADVANCES 

Labour 

B — Unemployment Insurance Commission 

669 To authorize the Minister of Finance, notwithstanding the 
Unemployment Insurance Act, to credit to the Un- 
employment Insurance Fund in the fiscal year 1962-63 
sums not exceeding in the aggregate $25,000,000 on 
such terms and conditions as the Governor in Council 
determines $ 25,000,000 00 

Resolution to be reported. 



The said resolution was reported and concurred in, and the Committee of 
Supply obtained leave to sit again at the next sitting of the House. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Diefenbaker, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Statutory 
Orders and Regulations published in the Canada Gazette, Part II, of Wednesday, 
March 14, 1962, pursuant to section 7 of the Regulations Act, chapter 235, 
R.S.C., 1952. (English and French). 



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By Mr. Hees, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Order in Council 
P.C. 1962-316, dated March 8, 1962, authorizing a revision in payment terms 
originally approved by Order in Council P.C. 1959-746, dated June 11, 1959, 
made under section 21 of the Export Credits Insurance Act, whereby the Export 
Credits Insurance Corporation insured the sale by Canadair Limited, Montreal, 
of ten aircraft to The Flying Tiger Line Inc. of Burbank, California, pursuant 
to section 21b of the said Act, chapter 105, R.S.C., 1952, as amended 1960-61. 

By Mr. Hees, — Order in Council P.C. 1962-338, dated March 13, 1962, 
authorizing, under section 21a of the Export Credits Insurance Act, long-term 
financing by the Export Credits Insurance Corporation for the sale by General 
Motors Diesel Limited, London, Ontario, in respect of the Canadian content of 
56 diesel electric locomotives and spare parts to Rede Ferroviaria Federal 
S.A., Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, pursuant to section 21b of the said Act, chapter 
105, R.S.C., 1952, as amended 1960-61. 

By the Examiner of Petitions for Private Bills, — Twelfth Report, pursuant 
to Standing Order 100(2), as follows: 

The Examiner of Petitions for Private Bills has the honour to report that 
the following petitioners for divorce Acts have complied with the requirements 
of Standing Order 96: 

Edouard Joseph Armand Baril of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Marie 
Therese Bibiane Noel Baril. 

Marie Raymonde Violetta Douillard Dalpe, wife of Donald Dalpe of 
Drummondville, Quebec. 

Edward Dorozowsky of Verdun, Quebec, husband of Tatiana Roxolana 
Diduch Dorozowsky. 

Marie Marguerite Nicole Bisaillon Fraser, wife of Robert Fraser of Mont- 
real, Quebec. 

Elizabeth Cowan Lecky Frawley, wife of Lawrence Patrick Frawley of 
Westmount, Quebec. 

Marie Augustine Jeannette Rail Gibbs, wife of William David Gibbs of 
Montreal, Quebec. 

Violet Gabrielle Beaudry Gilmour, wife of Matthew Ralph Gilmour of 
Rosemere, Quebec. 

Marie Emilia Rolande Bernier Gittens, wife of Kenneth Fitzgerald Gittens 
of Montreal, Quebec. 

Doris Sibyl Jane Godsell Hassall, wife of Frederick James Hassall of 
Verdun, Quebec. 

Maureen Davies Knowles, wife of Geoffrey Arnold Knowles of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Teresa Botulynska Lesiuk, wife of Julian Roman Lesiuk of the Province 
of Quebec. 

Virginia Ruth Baker Parmiter, wife of Douglas Parmiter of Ville LaSalle, 
Quebec. 

Kathleen Meades Ryan, wife of Albert George Ryan of Pointe St. Charles, 
Quebec. 

Anna Bovingdon Strickland, wife of Edward Strickland of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Stanley Frank White of Lachine, Quebec, husband of Dawn Elaine Wankel 
White. 



A.D. 1962 MONDAY, 19th MARCH 249 

By the Examiner of Petitions for Private Bills, — Thirteenth Report, 
pursuant to Standing Order 100(2), as follows: 

The Examiner of Petitions for Private Bills has the honour to report 
that the following petitioners have complied with the requirements of Stand- 
ing Order 96: 

The Canadian Indemnity Company and The Canadian Fire Insurance Com- 
pany, for an Act sanctioning and confirming an amalgamation agreement 
between the companies to continue under the name of "The Canadian Indemnity 
Company" and in French, "L'Indemnite Compagnie Canadienne". 

Reliance Insurance Company of Canada for an Act to amend its Act of 
Incorporation authorizing the company to transact business either in the name 
"Reliance Insurance Company of Canada" and/or the name "La Reliance Com- 
pagnie Canadienne d'Assurances". 



At 10.03 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until tomorrow at 2.30 o'clock p.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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2.30 o'clock p.m. 

Prayers. 

On motion of Mr. Pallett, seconded by Mr. Ricard, it was ordered, — That 
the name of Mr. McMillan be substituted for that of Mr. Chevrier on the 
Standing Committee on Banking and Commerce. 

The House resolved itself again into Committee of Supply; 

And the House continuing in Committee; 

At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker took the Chair. 



(Private Members' Business was called pursuant to Standing Order 15(3) 
as provisionally amended) 

(Private Bills) 

The Order being read for the second reading of Bill S-5, An Act to 
incorporate Evangelical Mennonite Mission Conference; 

Mr. Muir (Lisgar), seconded by Mr. Smith (Winnipeg North), moved, — 
That the said bill be now read a second time. 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 

Accordingly, the said bill was read the second time and referred to the 
Standing Committee on Miscellaneous Private Bills. 

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The Order being read for the second reading of Bill S-9, An Act to 
incorporate Brock Acceptance Company; 

Mr. Smith (Winnipeg North), seconded by Mr. Southam, moved, — That 
the said bill be now read a second time. 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 

Accordingly, the said bill was read the second time and referred to the 
Standing Committee on Banking and Commerce. 



The Order being read for the second reading of Bill S-10, An Act to 
incorporate Gerand Acceptance Company; 

Mr. Smith (Winnipeg North), seconded by Mr. Southam, moved, — That 
the said bill be now read a second time. 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 

Accordingly, the said bill was read the second time and referred to the 
Standing Committee on Banking and Commerce. 

(Public Bills) 

The Order for the second reading of Bill C-23, An Act to amend the Small 
Loans Act (Advertising), having been read and not proceeded with, it dropped 
to the foot of the list on the Order Paper. 



The Order for the second reading of Bill C-24, An Act to amend the 
Criminal Code (Trading Stamps), having been read and not proceeded with, 
it dropped to the foot of the list on the Order Paper. 



The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-25, An Act respect- 
ing the Sovereignty of Canada; 

Mr. Allard, seconded by Mr. Dubois, moved, — That the said bill be now 
read a second time. 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 

The Committee of Supply resumed. 

(In the Committee) 
The following resolutions were adopted: 

FURTHER SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES (3), 1961-62 
NATIONAL DEFENCE 
Canadian Army 
644 Operation and Maintenance — Further amount required ..$ 35,000,000 00 






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Royal Canadian Air Force 

645 Construction or Acquisition of Buildings, Works, Land and 

Major Equipment — Further amount required 31,000,000 00 

Pensions and Other Benefits 

646 To provide that George Alvin Baycroft, a former employee 

of Her Majesty, shall, subject to such terms and 
conditions as the Treasury Board prescribes, be 
deemed to have been designated a contributor pursuant 
to paragraph (/) of subsection (1) of section 4 of the 
Public Service Superannuation Act on the 1st day of 
October, 1957 1 00 

LOANS, INVESTMENTS AND ADVANCES 

National Defence 

670 To authorize loans to be made in the current and sub- 
sequent fiscal years in respect of housing projects con- 
structed, pursuant to an agreement with the Minister 
of National Defence, for occupancy by members of the 
Canadian Forces; such loans to be at interest rates and 
in accordance with such terms and conditions as the 
Governor in Council prescribes — Further amount 
required 5,000,000 00 

NATIONAL RESEARCH COUNCIL, INCLUDING THE 
MEDICAL RESEARCH COUNCIL 

647 Construction or Acquisition of Buildings, Works, Land and 

Equipment — Further amount required 298,000 00 

VETERANS AFFAIRS 

Miscellaneous Payments 

667 To deem the election made by the late Emery Leduc on 
the 16th day of September, 1957 to be valid for all 
purposes of the Public Service Superannuation Act, 
notwithstanding that he was not medically examined 
as required by section 18 of the said Act, and to author- 
ize payment of benefits to his widow and children as 
if he had taken and passed the medical examination 
so required 1 00 

Resolutions to be reported. 



The said resolutions were reported and concurred in, and the Committee 
of Supply obtained leave to sit again at the next sitting of the House. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Diefenbaker, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Exchange 
of Correspondence between the Prime Minister of Canada and Provincial 



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Premiers concerning the Federal-Provincial Meeting of Ministers on March 
19, 1962, regarding the Problems of the Generation and Transmission of Elec- 
trical Energy throughout Canada (National Power Grid). 

By Mr. Balcer, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Report of the 
Canadian National Railways for the year ended December 31, 1961, pursuant 
to section 40 of the Canadian National Railways Act, chapter 29, Statutes of 
Canada, 1955. (English and French). 

By Mr. Balcer, — Report to Parliament of the Auditor on the Accounts 
of the Canadian National Railway System for the year ended December 31, 
1961, pursuant to section 40 of the Canadian National Railways Act, chapter 
29, Statutes of Canada, 1955. (English and French). 

By Mr. Balcer, — Report of the Canadian National Railways Securities 
Trust for the year ended December 31, 1961, pursuant to section 17 of the 
Canadian National Railways Capital Revision Act, chapter 311, R.S.C., 1952. 
(English and French). 

By Mr. Balcer, — Report of Trans-Canada Air Lines for the year ended 
December 31, 1961, pursuant to section 29 of the Trans-Canada Air Lines Act, 
chapter 268, R.S.C., 1952. (English and French). 

By Mr. Balcer, — Report to Parliament of the Auditor on the Accounts of 
Trans-Canada Air Lines for the year ended December 31, 1961, pursuant to 
section 29 of the Trans-Canada Air Lines Act, chapter 268, R.S.C., 1952. 
(English and French). 

By Mr. Dorion, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Return to an 
Address, dated February 7, 1962, to His Excellency the Governor-General 
(Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers No. 12) for a copy of all cor- 
respondence exchanged between any member of the Government of Canada 
on the one hand, and the Mayor of Yarmouth, Nova Scotia, on the other, since 
January 1, 1961, regarding the replacement of the lighthouse at Yarmouth, 
Nova Scotia. 

By Mr. Dorion, — Return to an Order of the House, dated March 14, 1962, 
(Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers No. 18) for a copy of the 
Strategic List referred to by the Minister of Trade and Commerce, page 708, 
Hansard, February 9, 1962. 



At 10.04 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until tomorrow at 2.30 o'clock p.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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OTTAWA, WEDNESDAY, 21st MARCH, 1962. 

2.30 o'clock p.m. 

Prayers. 

Mr. Speaker communicated to the House the following letter: 

GOVERNMENT HOUSE 
OTTAWA 

21st March, 1962. 

Sir, 

I have the honour to inform you that the Honourable Robert Taschereau, 
Judge of the Supreme Court of Canada, acting as Deputy to His Excellency 
the Governor-General, will proceed to the Senate Chamber on Friday, the 23rd 
March, at 5.45 p.m., for the purpose of giving Royal Assent to certain bills. 

I have the honour to be, 

Sir, 
Your obedient servant, 

A. G. CHERRIER, 
Assistant Secretary to the Governor-General. 
The Honourable, 

The Speaker of the House of Commons. 



A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Senate had passed the following bills without amendment: 

Bill C-73, An Act to amend the Farm Improvement Loans Act. 
Bill C-74, An Act to amend the Fisheries Improvement Loans Act. 



256 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

By unanimous consent, Mr. Diefenbaker, a Member of the Queen's Privy 
Council, laid before the House, — Reply by the Canadian Government, dated 
March 21, 1962, to an Enquiry from the Secretary-General of the United 
Nations, relating to the General Assembly's Resolution 1664 (XVI), (the 
"Swedish" Resolution), adopted on December 4, 1961. (English and French). 



The following Questions were made Orders for Returns under the provi- 
sions of Standing Order 39(4) as provisionally amended: 

Question No. 275, by Mr. Regier, — Order of the House for a Return show- 
ing: 1. What are the names and positions held by each of the people attached 
to, or assigned to, work with our Canadian Embassy in France since January 
1, 1954? 

2. What were the periods of such responsibilities given there to each such 
person? 

3. Which of these people received promotions during said period of 
service, and what are the details of each of these promotions? 

4. Which of these people are not now in the employ of the Federal Govern- 
ment, and what was the reason for termination of service in each case? 

Question No. 295, by Mr. Pitman, — Order of the House for a Return show- 
ing: What has been the volume of water passing through the Trent Waterway 
at the nearest point to the City of Peterborough in each month, of each year, 
since 1950? 

Mr. Balcer, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, presented, — Return 
to the foregoing Order. 

Question No. 296, by Mr. Pitman, — Order of the House for a Return show- 
ing: 1. How many applications were received for summer employment under 
Competition 62-50 of the Civil Service Commission? 

2. Who were the successful candidates, and in which Electoral Districts 
are each resident? 

3. Were any representations made on behalf of any of the successful 
candidates; and, if so, by whom? 

4. What were the academic qualifications of each of the successful 
candidates? 



Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers (No. 2) having been called 
was allowed to stand at the request of the government. 



On motion of Mr. Pickersgill, seconded by Mr. Benidickson, it was ordered, 
— That an humble Address be presented to His Excellency praying that he 
will cause to be laid before this House a copy of any communication addressed 
to the Premier of Newfoundland or any member of the Government of New- 
foundland by the Minister of Transport since January 1, 1962, regarding the 
proposed ferry service to Argentia, together with any replies thereto. — (Notice 
of Motion for the Production of Papers No. 29). 



On motion of Mr. Fisher, seconded by Mr. Herridge, it was ordered, — 
That there be laid before this House a copy of all correspondence exchanged 
between the Minister of Transport and persons, other than Department of 






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Transport officials, who have been in touch with him regarding improvements 
in facilities at the Lakehead Airport. — (Notice of Motion for the Production 
of Papers No. 30). 



On motion of Mr. Fisher, seconded by Mr. Herridge, it was ordered, — 
That there be laid before this House a copy of all correspondence of any 
kind between the Minister of Public Works and anyone interested in develop- 
ing a new Post Office at Longlac, Ontario. — (Notice of Motion for the Produc- 
tion of Papers No. 31 ) . 



Mr. Pickersgill, seconded by Mr. Mcllraith, moved, — That an Order of 
the House do issue for a copy of the latest economic forecast prepared in the 
Department of Trade and Commerce in the series substituted for the Canadian 
Economic Outlook as described in Hansard for August 10, 1960 at page 7878. 
— (Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers No. 33). 

And the question being proposed; 

The Honourable Member for Bonavista-Twillingate (Mr. Pickersgill) 
stated that he desired a debate on the said motion. 

Ordered, — That the said motion be transferred by the Clerk to the order 
of "Notices of Motions (Papers)" pursuant to Standing Order 47 as provisionally 
amended. 



On motion of Mr. Pickersgill, seconded by Mr. Mcllraith, it was ordered, 
— That an humble Address be presented to His Excellency praying that he 
will cause to be laid before this House a copy of all correspondence since 
October 1, 1961, between the Board of Broadcast Governors on the one hand 
and any other person on the other, respecting a program on television station 
CJCH-TV Halifax, entitled "Youth Wants to Know". — (Notice of Motion for 
the Production of Papers No. 34). 



By unanimous consent, it was ordered that the Speech delivered this 
week by the Secretary of State for External Affairs (The Honourable Mr. 
Green) at the Disarmament Conference in Geneva be printed as an Appendix 
to this day's Hansard. 



The House resolved itself again into Committee of Supply. 

(In the Committee) 
The following resolutions were adopted: 

FURTHER SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES (3), 1961-62 

MINES AND TECHNICAL SURVEYS 

A — Department 
Administration Services 

Departmental Administration — 
637 Administration, Operation and Maintenance — Further 

amount required $ 65,000 00 

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638 Acquisition of Common-Use Field Survey and Other 

Equipment — Further amount required 187,000 00 

Surveys and Mapping Branch 

Canadian Hydrographic Service — 

639 Construction or Acquisition of Buildings, Works, Land 

and Equipment — Further amount required . . . . 50,000 00 

Geological Survey of Canada 

640 Administration, Operation and Maintenance — Further 

amount required 75,000 00 

Dominion Observatories 

Dominion Observatory, Ottawa and Field Stations — 

641 Construction or Acquisition of Buildings, Works, Land 

and Equipment — Further amount required . . . . 60,450 00 

General 

642 Polar Continental Shelf Project — Further amount required 16,400 00 

B — Dominion Coal Board 

643 Payments in connection with movements of coal under 

conditions prescribed by the Governor in Council — 

Further amount required 4,800,000 00 

Resolutions to be reported. 



The said resolutions were reported and concurred in, and the Committee 
of Supply obtained leave to sit again at the next sitting of the House. 



(At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Private Members' Business was called pursuant to 
Standing Order 15(3) as provisionally amended) 

(Notices of Motions) 

Mr. Morton, seconded by Mr. McGrath, moved, — That a Special Committee 
of this House, the membership of which to be designated later, be appointed 
to study how greater assistance for education can be given by the Government 
of Canada within the provisions of the British North America Act and in 
co-operation with the provinces. — (Notice of Motion No. 14). 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



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Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following paper having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
was laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Balcer, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Report of the 
Canadian National (West Indies) Steamships, Limited, for the year ended 
December 31, 1961, pursuant to section 85(3) of the Financial Administration 
Act, chapter 116, R.S.C., 1952. 



At 6.00 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until tomorrow at 2.30 o'clock p.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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Prayers. 



OTTAWA, THURSDAY, 22nd MARCH, 1962. 

2.30 o'clock p.m. 



The following Notice of Motion having been called was transferred to 
Government Orders for consideration at the next sitting of the House pursuant 
to Standing Order 21(2): 

That a Sessional Committee on Railways, Air Lines and Shipping owned 
and controlled by the Government, be appointed to consider the accounts, 
estimates and bills relating to the Canadian National Railways and Trans- 
Canada Air Lines, saving always the powers of the Committee of Supply in 
relation to the voting of public moneys; and that the said Committee be 
empowered to send for persons, papers and records, and to report from time 
to time; and that, notwithstanding Standing Order 67 in relation to the limita- 
tion of the number of members, the said Committee shall consist of Messrs. 
Badanai, Brassard (Lapointe), Broome, Browne (Vancouver-Kingsway), Cam- 
peau, Carter, Chevrier, Creaghan, Fisher, Forbes, Granger, Grills, Horner 
(Jasper-Edson), Howe, Kennedy, McDonald (Hamilton South), McFarlane, 
McPhillips, McWilliam, Mitchell, Monteith (Verdun), Pascoe, Robinson, Rowe, 
Small wood and Smith (Simcoe North). — (The Minister of Transport). 

The House resolved itself again into Committee of Supply; 

And the House continuing in Committee; 

At 5.00 o'clock p.m. Mr. Speaker took the Chair. 

(Private Members' Business was called pursuant to Standing Order 15(3) 
as provisionally amended) 

[Notices of Motions (Papers)'] 

Mr. Pickersgill, seconded by Miss LaMarsh, moved, — That an Order of 
the House do issue for a copy of the latest economic forecast prepared in the 



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Department of Trade and Commerce in the series substituted for the Cana- 
dian Economic Outlook as described in Hansard for August 10, 1960 at page 
7878. — (Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers No. 33). 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
negatived. 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



The Committee of Supply resumed. 

(In the Committee) 
The following resolutions were adopted: 

FURTHER SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES (3), 1961-62 

NORTHERN AFFAIRS AND NATIONAL RESOURCES 
National Parks Branch 

National Parks and Historic Sites and Monuments — 

648 Construction or Acquisition of Buildings, Works, Land 

and Equipment — Further amount required .. ..$ 2,500,000 00 

Water Resources Branch 

649 Construction or Acquisition of Buildings, Works, Land 

and Equipment — Further amount required 40,000 00 

Northern Administration Branch 

Welfare and Industrial Divisions — 

650 Construction or Acquisition of Buildings, Works, Land 

and Equipment — Further amount required . . . . 270,000 00 

Yukon Territory — 

651 Operation and Maintenance — To extend the purposes 

of Vote 302 of the Main Estimates for 1961-62 

to include the grants detailed in these Estimates 22,000 00 

LOANS, INVESTMENTS AND ADVANCES 

Northern Affairs and National Resources 
Northern Administration Branch 

671 Loans to the Government of the Yukon Territory in 

accordance with terms and conditions prescribed by 

the Governor in Council 500,000 00 

672 Loans to the Government of the Yukon Territory (herein- 

after called the "Territory") in the current and 
subsequent fiscal years, in accordance with such terms 
and conditions as the Governor in Council may ap- 



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prove, to enable that Government to make mortgage 
loans to residents of the Territory for the purchase 
or construction of low cost houses in the Territory; 
and to authorize the Commissioner in Council of the 
Territory, notwithstanding anything in the Yukon 
Act, to make ordinances in respect of the repayment 
by the Government of the Territory of loans made 
to it pursuant to this Vote and in respect of the 
lending of money to residents of the Territory for the 
purchase or construction of houses in the Territory 
and the taking of security therefor by way of 
mortgage 240,000 00 

673 Loans to the Government of the Northwest Territories in 

accordance with terms and conditions prescribed by 

the Governor in Council 150,000 00 

674 Loans to the Government of the Northwest Territories 

(hereinafter called the "Territories") in the current 
and subsequent fiscal years, in accordance with such 
terms and conditions as the Governor in Council may 
approve, to enable that Government to make mortgage 
loans to residents of the Territories for the purchase 
or construction of low cost houses in the Territories; 
and to authorize the Commissioner in Council of the 
Territories, notwithstanding anything in the North- 
west Territories Act, to make ordinances in respect 
of the repayment by the Government of the Territories 
of loans made to it pursuant to this Vote and in respect 
of the lending of money to residents of the Territories 
for the purchase or construction of houses in the 
Territories and the taking of security therefor by way 
of mortgage 240,000 00 



PUBLIC WORKS 

Public Buildings Construction and Services 

Construction, acquisition, major repairs and improvements 
of, and plans and sites for, public buildings listed in 
the details of the Estimates, including expenditures 
on works on other than federal property, provided 
that Treasury Board may increase or decrease the 
amount within the vote to be expended on individual 
listed projects — Further amounts required — 

655 Nova Scotia 1 00 

656 New Brunswick 375,000 00 



264 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

657 Improvements Generally and Miscellaneous Buildings 

— Not more than $25,000 to be expended on any 
one project without the approval of Treasury 
Board 125,000 00 

658 Maintenance and Operation of Public Buildings and 

Grounds — Further amount required 1,000,000 00 

Development Engineering Services 

659 Roads and Bridges — Maintenance and Operation — Further 

amount required 150,000 00 

General 

660 Miscellaneous Works not otherwise provided for including 

expenditures on works on other than federal property; 
a maximum of $15,000 may be expended in respect 
of any one work and, with the approval of Treasury 
Board, that maximum may be increased to $25,000 
— Further amount required 190,000 00 

ROYAL CANADIAN MOUNTED POLICE 
Pensions and Other Benefits 

661 To deem the election made by the late Benjamin Vinton 

Beddow on the 9th day of March, 1961, to be valid 
for all purposes of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police 
Superannuation Act, notwithstanding that he was not 
medically examined as required by paragraph (b) of 
subsection (2) of section 7 of the said Act, and to 
authorize the payment of benefits to his widow as if 
he had taken and passed the medical examination so 
required 1 00 

TRADE AND COMMERCE 

B — General 

Eldorado Mining and Refining Limited 

662 Payments in the 1961-62 and 1962-63 fiscal years under 

the contract that was entered into on the 24th day of 
November, 1961 between Eldorado Mining and Refin- 
ing Limited on behalf of Her Majesty and Macassa 
Gold Mines Limited for the purchase by Her Majesty 
of uranium concentrates 2,400,000 00 

TRANSPORT 

A DEPARTMEiNTT 

Railway and Steamship Services 

663 Construction or Acquisition of Auto-Ferry Vessels and 

Equipment as listed in the details of the Estimates, 
provided that Treasury Board may increase or 
decrease the amount within the vote to be expended 
upon individual listed projects — Further amount 
required 71,885 00 

Resolutions to be reported. 



A.D. 1962 THURSDAY, 22nd MARCH 265 

The said resolutions were reported and concurred in, and the Committee 
of Supply obtained leave to sit again at the next sitting of the House. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Dorion, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Return to an 
Order of the House, dated March 7, 1962 ("Question No. 232) showing: 1. 
Has the government received any representations to the effect that industrial 
non- contributory pensions have been reduced by the amount of the recent 
increase in Old Age Security? 

2. Is there any regulation that would prevent a company from making 
such a reduction in its pension payments? 

By the Examiner of Petitions for Private Bills, — Fourteenth Report, 
pursuant to Standing Order 100(2), as follows: 

The Examiner of Petitions for Private Bills has the honour to report 
that the following petitioners have complied with the requirements of Stand- 
ing Order 96: 

Canadian Pacific Railway Company, Joliette and Brandon Railway Com- 
pany, The Saint John Bridge and Railway Extension Company, and The Saint 
Stephen and Milltown Railway Company, for an Act vesting in the Canadian 
Pacific Railway Company the railways and undertakings of the other said 
companies including their assets and liabilities. 

The United Church of Canada for an Act to amend its Act of Incorporation. 



At 10.02 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until tomorrow at 11.00 o'clock a.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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OTTAWA, FRIDAY, 23rd MARCH, 1962. 



11.00 o'clock a.m. 
Prayers. 

A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Senate had passed the following bills to which the concurrence of this House 
is desired: 

Bill SD-103, An Act for the relief of Giuseppe de Cristoforo. — Mr. Mc- 
Cleave. 

Bill SD-104, An Act for the relief of Wilfrid Giroux. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-105, An Act for the relief of Anne-Marie Somlo. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-106, An Act for the relief of Margaret Ellynore Abbott. — Mr. 
McCleave. 

Bill SD-107, An Act for the relief of Madge Estelle Pinkerton.— Mr. 
McCleave. 

Bill SD-108, An Act for the relief of Angus Mcintosh. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-109, An Act for the relief of May Margaret Morelli. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-110, An Act for the relief of Linnea Erna Barbara Walker. 
— Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-111, An Act for the relief of Joan Marjorie Gregor-Pearse. 
— Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-112, An Act for the relief of Jean Guy Prud'homme. — Mr. Mc- 
Cleave. 

Bill SD-113, An Act for the relief of Aline Helene Smith. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-114, An Act for the relief of Marie Aleta Meerovitch.— Mr. Mc- 
Cleave. 

Bill SD-115, An Act for the relief of Beverley Hay den Crerar.— Mr. 
McCleave. 

Bill SD-116, An Act for the relief of Brigitte Dophide— Mr. McCleave. 



268 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

Bill SD-117, An Act for the relief of Constance Valerie Laurie. — Mr. 
McCleave. 

Bill SD-118, An Act for the relief of Robert Harrison. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-119, An Act for the relief of Marketa Tata.— Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-120, An Act for the relief of Margaret Anna Kenwood. — Mr. 
McCleave. 

Bill SD-121, An Act for the relief of Robert Charles Chapman. — Mr. 
McCleave. 

Bill SD-122, An Act for the relief of Rose Duval. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-123, An Act for the relief of Louise Doyle. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-124, An Act for the relief of Sandra Elizabeth McVety — Mr. 
McCleave. 

Bill SD-125, An Act for the relief of Jean Bernard L'Heureux. — Mr. 
McCleave. 

Bill SD-126, An Act for the relief of Mildred Kligman. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-127, An Act for the relief of Lucille Goresky. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-128, An Act for the relief of Ivy Elizabeth Sherry. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-129, An Act for the relief of Haidy Amalie Madelaine Jack. 
— Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-130, An Act for the relief of Florence Patricia Da Silva. — Mr. 
McCleave. 

Bill SD-131, An Act for the relief of Nancy Ruth Grabina. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-132, An Act for the relief of Paul Aime Bedard. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-133, An Act for the relief of Edward Sidney Mansfield. — Mr. 
McCleave. 

Bill SD-134, An Act for the relief of Harry Hyman. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-135, An Act for the relief of Patricia Rose Rankin. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-136, An Act for the relief of Marsha Liberman. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-137, An Act for the relief of Elizabeth Lillian Small.— Mr. Mc- 
Cleave. 

Bill SD-138, An Act for the relief of Catherine Mildred Gray.— Mr. Mc- 
Cleave. 

Bill SD-139, An Act for the relief of Klara Brody. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-140, An Act for the relief of Rene Hebert.— Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-141, An Act for the relief of Abie Herscovitch, otherwise known 
as Allan Herscovitch. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-142, An Act for the relief of Rosaire Gauthier.— Mr. McCleave. 

The said bills were deemed to have been read the first time and ordered 
for a second reading at the next sitting of the House pursuant to Standing 
Order 103(2). 

A Message was received from the Senate communicating to this House the 
evidence taken and the papers produced in respect of the above-mentioned 
divorce bills, with a request that the said evidence and papers be returned to 
the Senate. 



Mr. Diefenbaker, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, laid before the 
House, — Press Release, dated March 16, 1962, announcing the programme 
for the visit to Canada in June of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth, the Queen 
Mother. (English and French). 



A.D. 1962 FRIDAY, 23rd MARCH 269 

The House resolved itself again into Committee of Supply. 

(In the Committee) 
The following resolutions were adopted: 

FURTHER SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES (3), 1961-62 

TRANSPORT 

B — General 

Air Transport Board 

664 Subventions for Air Carriers as detailed in the Estimates $ 300,000 00 

Canadian Maritime Commission 

665 Steamship Subventions for Coastal Services, as detailed 

in the Estimates — Further amount required 510,164 00 

St. Lawrence Seaway Authority 

666 Operating deficit and capital requirements of Canals and 

Works entrusted to the St. Lawrence Seaway Au- 
thority — Further amount required 1,291,400 00 

PRIVY COUNCIL 

Emergency Measures 

652 Administration and Operation of the Emergency Measures 

Organization — Further amount required 261,500 00 

Special 

653 Expenses of the Royal Commission on Banking and Finance 

including the payment, notwithstanding the Civil 
Service Act, of honoraria or allowances as may be 
authorized by the Treasury Board to officers, clerks 
or employees permanently employed in the Civil 
Service for services rendered by them to the 
Commission 128,000 00 

654 Expenses of the Committee of Inquiry into the Unemploy- 

ment Insurance Act including the payment, notwith- 
standing the Civil Service Act, of honoraria or allow- 
ances as may be authorized by the Treasury Board 
to officers, clerks or employees permanently employed 
in the Civil Service for services rendered by them to 
the Committee 75,000 00 

Resolutions to be reported. 



The said resolutions were reported and concurred in, and the Committee 
of Supply obtained leave to sit again later this day. 



270 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

The House resolved itself again into Committee of Ways and Means. 

(In the Committee) 

The following resolution was adopted: 

Resolved, — That towards making good the Supply granted to Her Majesty 
on account of certain expenses of the public service for the fiscal year ending- 
March 31st, 1962, the sum of $153,270,929.00 be granted out of the Consolidated 
Revenue Fund of Canada. 

Resolution to be reported. 



The said resolution was reported and concurred in, and the Committee of 
Ways and Means obtained leave to sit again at the next sitting of the House. 



Mr. Nowlan for Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), seconded by Mr. Churchill, by 
leave of the House, presented Bill C-78, An Act for granting to Her Majesty 
certain sums of money for the public service for the financial year ending 
the 31st March, 1962, which was read the first time. 

By unanimous consent, Mr. Nowlan for Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), seconded 
by Mr. Churchill, moved, — That the said bill be now read a second time. 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 

Accordingly, the said bill was read the second time, considered in Com- 
mittee of the Whole, reported without amendment, read the third time and 
passed. 



A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Senate had passed the following bills to which the concurrence of this House 
is desired: 

Bill S-13, An Act to incorporate Polaris Pipe Lines. — Mr. Baldwin. 

Bill S-14, An Act respecting Canada Security Assurance Company. — Mr. 
Stefanson. 

The said bills were deemed to have been read the first time and ordered 
for a second reading at the next sitting of the House pursuant to Standing 
Order 103(2). 



A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Senate had passed the following bills without amendment: 

Bill C-14, An Act to amend the Representation Act. 

Bill C-67, An Act to authorize the Construction and Operation on behalf 
of Her Majesty of a line of railway in the Province of Quebec between Matane 
and Ste. Anne des Monts. 



The House resolved itself again into Committee of Supply, and progress 
having been made and reported, the Committee obtained leave to sit again 
at the next sitting of the House. 



A.D. 1962 FRIDAY, 23rd MARCH 271 

(At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Private Members' Business was called pursuant to 
Standing Order 15(3) as provisionally amended) 

(Public Bills) 

The Order for the second reading of Bill C-26, An Act to amend the 
Indian Act (Liquor Rights), having been read and not proceeded with, it 
dropped to the foot of the list on the Order Paper. 



The Order for the second reading of Bill C-27, An Act to amend the 
Bankruptcy Act (Wage Earners' Assignments), having been read and not 
proceeded with, it dropped to the foot of the list on the Order Paper. 



Order No. 3, having been called, was allowed to stand at the request of 
the government. 



The Order for the second reading of Bill C-29, An Act to amend the 
Canada Fair Employment Practices Act (Age Discrimination), having been 
read and not proceeded with, it dropped to the foot of the list on the Order 
Paper. 



The Order for the second reading of Bill C-30, An Act to provide for a 
Canadian Lottery, having been read and not proceeded with, it dropped to 
the foot of the list on the Order Paper. 



The Order for the second reading of Bill C-31, An Act respecting Flags 
of Canada, having been read and not proceeded with, it dropped to the foot 
of the list on the Order Paper. 



Orders numbered 7, 8, and 9 inclusive, having been severally called, were 
allowed to stand at the request of the government. 



The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-39, An Act to 
amend the Merchant Seamen Compensation Act; 

Mr. Carter, seconded by Mr. Pickersgill, moved, — That the said bill be 
now read a second time. 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Senate had passed Bill C-78, An Act for granting to Her Majesty certain 
sums of money for the public service for the financial year ending the 31st 
March, 1962. 



A Message was received from the Honourable Mr. Justice Robert Tasche- 
reau, acting as Deputy to His Excellency the Governor-General, desiring the 
immediate attendance of the House in the Senate Chamber. 



272 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

Accordingly, Mr. Speaker with the House went to the Senate Chamber. 

And being returned; 



Mr. Speaker reported that, when the House did attend the Honourable 
the Deputy to His Excellency the Governor-General in the Senate Chamber, 
His Honour was pleased to give, in Her Majesty's name, the Royal Assent to 
the following bills: 

An Act to amend the Export Credits Insurance Act. 

An Act to amend the St. Lawrence Seaway Authority Act. 

An Act to incorporate Cochin Pipe Lines Ltd. 

An Act respecting Muttart Development Corporation Ltd. 

An Act respecting The Mutual Life Assurance Company of Canada. 

An Act respecting Sun Life Assurance Company of Canada. 

An Act to incorporate Westmount Life Insurance Company. 

An Act to amend the Small Businesses Loans Act. 

An Act to amend the Farm Improvement Loans Act. 

An Act to amend the Fisheries Improvement Loans Act. 

An Act to authorize the Construction and Operation on behalf of Her 
Majesty of a line of railway in the Province of Quebec between Matane and 
Ste. Anne des Monts. 

An Act to amend the Representation Act. 

And Mr. Speaker informed the House that he had addressed the Honour- 
able the Deputy to His Excellency the Governor-General as follows: 

"May it Please Your Honour: 

"The Commons of Canada have voted Supplies required to enable the 
government to defray certain expenses of the public service. 

"In the name of the Commons, I present to Your Honour the following 
bill: 

'An Act for granting to Her Majesty certains sums of money for the public 
service for the financial year ending the 31st March, 1962'. 

"To which bill I humbly request Your Honour's Assent." 

Whereupon, the Clerk of the Senate, by command of the Deputy to His 
Excellency the Governor-General, did say: 

"In Her Majesty's name, the Honourable the Deputy to His Excellency the 
Governor-General thanks Her Loyal Subjects, accepts their benevolence, and 
assents to this bill." 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following paper having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
was laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Walker, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Report of the 
Central Mortgage and Housing Corporation, together with a Statement of its 



A.D. 1962 FRIDAY, 23rd MARCH 273 

Accounts certified oy the Auditors, for the year ended December 31, 1961, 
pursuant to section 33 of the Central Mortgage and Housing Corporation Act, 
chapter 46, and sections 85(3) and 87(3) of the Financial Administration Act, 
chapter 116, R.S.C., 1952. (English and French). 



At 6.23 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until Monday next at 2.30 o'clock p.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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OTTAWA, MONDAY, 26th MARCH, 1962. 



2.30 o'clock p.m. 
Prayers. 

A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Senate had passed the following bills to which the concurrence of this House 
is desired: 

Bill S-ll, An Act respecting The Governing Council of The Salvation 
Army, Canada East, and The Governing Council of The Salvation Army, Can- 
ada West — Mr. Wratten. 

Bill SD-143, An Act for the relief of Gerhard Hermann Buchholz. — Mr. 
McCleave. 

Bill SD-144, An Act for the relief of Joseph Fortin Decelles. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-145, An Act for the relief of Guy Bertrand. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-146, An Act for the relief of Dorothy Hazel Neila Beausoleil. 
— Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-147, An Act for the relief of Dorothy Estelle Lord. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-148, An Act for the relief of Claire Bradford. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-149, An Act for the relief of Leonard Marchand, otherwise known 
as Leonard Mihalcean. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-150, An Act for the relief of Olga Antonina Burkousky. — Mr. 
McCleave. 

Bill SD-151, An Act for the relief of Sheila Wolofsky— Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-152, An Act for the relief of Geraldine Cecilia Gohier. — Mr. 
McCleave. 

Bill SD-153, An Act for the relief of Jean Helen Donnan. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-154, An Act for the relief of Michele Breuer. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-155, An Act for the relief of Magella Bergeron. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-156, An Act for the relief of Wilhelmina Grundy.— Mr. McCleave. 



276 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

Bill SD-157, An Act for the relief of Lillian Florence Catherine Hurst. 
— Mr. McCleave. 

The said bills were deemed to have been read the first time and ordered 
for a second reading at the next sitting of the House pursuant to Standing 
Order 103(2). 

A Message was received from the Senate communicating to this House the 
evidence taken and the papers produced in respect of the above-mentioned 
divorce bills, with a request that the said evidence and papers be returned to 
the Senate. 



On motion of Mr. Churchill, seconded by Mr. Balcer, the Report of the 
Civil Service Commission concerning the position of Cataloguing Librarian 1, 
laid upon the Table of the House, Monday, March 12, 1962, was approved. 



Mr. Nowlan, seconded by Mr. Churchill, by leave of the House, introduced 
Bill C-79, An Act to amend the Customs Act, which was read the first time 
and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House. 



Mr. Fulton, seconded by Mr. Churchill, moved, — That the House do go 
into Committee of the Whole at its next sitting to consider the following 
proposed resolution which has been recommended to the House by His 
Excellency: — 

That it is expedient to introduce a measure to amend the Judges Act to 
provide salaries for two additional judges of the Trial Division of the Supreme 
Court of Ontario and seven additional judges of the County and District Courts 
of Ontario including one chief judge. 

Resolved, — That the House do go into Committee of the Whole at its next 
sitting to consider the said proposed resolution. 



Mr. Diefenbaker, seconded by Mr. Churchill, moved, — That the House do 
go into Committee of the Whole at its next sitting to consider the following 
proposed resolution which has been recommended to the House by His 
Excellency: — 

That it is expedient to introduce a measure respecting the establishment 
of an Electoral Boundaries Commission for the readjustment of representation 
in the House of Commons; to provide that certain members of the Commission 
may be paid such per diem allowance as may be fixed by the Governor in 
Council; to provide for the payment of reasonable travelling and living expenses 
for the members of the Commission; and to provide also that the Commission 
may engage the services of such technical advisers and other staff, including 
a person to act as secretary to the Commission, as it deems necessary. 

Resolved, — That the House do go into Committee of the Whole at its next 
sitting to consider the said proposed resolution. 



The following Question was made an Order for Return under the provisions 
of Standing Order 39(4) as provisionally amended: 

* Question No. 316, by Mr. Martel, — Order of the House for a Return show- 
ing: 1. Were public tenders called in connection with the construction under 



A.D. 1962 MONDAY, 26th MARCH 277 

the "Roads to Resources Program", of a culvert near Mile No. 9 on the Amos- 
Mattagami Highway; and, if so, on what date were tenders called, and in 
what newspapers, giving dates of publication, were the notices published; if 
not, in what manner was the contract allocated? 

2. What was the total cost to date of (a) the construction of the Amos- 
Mattagami Highway (b) extras paid and authorized for the said highway? 



Mr. Diefenbaker, seconded by Mr. Churchill, moved, — That a Special Com- 
mittee, to be designated, be appointed to consider with Mr. Speaker the 
procedure of this House for the purpose of suggesting any changes that may 
be desirable to assure the more expeditious dispatch of public business, and, 
in particular, to consider the desirability of repealing Standing Order No. 33 
(closure rule), with power to send for persons, papers and records, and to 
report from time to time its findings and recommendations to the House. 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 



The House resolved itself into Committee of the Whole to consider a 
certain proposed resolution to amend the Veterans' Land Act; 

And the House continuing in Committee; 

At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker took the Chair. 



(Private Members' Business was called pursuant to Standing Order 15(3) 
as provisionally amended) 

(Notices of Motions) 

Mr. Aiken, seconded by Mr. Montgomery, moved, — That, in the opinion 
of this House, the government should undertake a complete review of the 
Juvenile Delinquents Act, with consideration being given to the appointment 
of a Special Committee to bring in recommendations thereon. — (Notice of 
Motion No. 15). 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



By unanimous consent, it was ordered that the provisions of section (3) 
of Standing Order 15, concerning the printing of Orders for the second reading 
of divorce bills and the consideration thereof, be suspended until, at the instance 
of any Member, it is otherwise ordered by the House. 



The House resumed consideration in Committee of the Whole of a certain 
proposed resolution to amend the Veterans' Land Act. 



278 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

(In the Committee) 

The following resolution was adopted: 

Resolved, — That it is expedient to introduce a measure to amend the Vet- 
erans' Land Act to extend the period during which a veteran may qualify for 
benefits; to establish dates on which persons shall be deemed to be discharged; 
to extend the repayment period of loans; to enable the Director to arrange 
group life insurance for veterans on a voluntary basis; to increase the rate of 
interest where a property reverts to the Director; to increase the maximum 
assistance under Part II; to provide further financial assistance to certain 
full-time farmers; to provide further financial assistance to part-time farmers 
and commercial fishermen; to extend the purposes for which a Part III loan 
may be used; to extend the uses to which proceeds of a sale or other disposition 
of land may be put; and to provide for the release to a veteran of a portion 
of the land on which he is established. 

Resolution to be reported. 



The said resolution was reported and concurred in. 



Mr. Churchill, seconded by Mr. MacLean (Queens), by leave of the House, 
presented Bill C-80, An Act to amend the Veterans' Land Act, which was read 
the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House. 



The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-75, An Act to 
amend the Canadian Wheat Board Act; 

Mr. Churchill for Mr. Hamilton (Qu'Appelle), seconded by Mr. MacLean 
(Queens), moved, — That the said bill be now read a second time. 

And debate arising thereon; the said debate was interrupted at ten 
o'clock. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following paper having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
was laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By the Examiner of Petitions for Private Bills, — Fifteenth Report, pursuant 
to Standing Order 100(2), as follows: 

The Examiner of Petitions for Private Bills has the honour to report that 
the following petitioners for divorce Acts have complied with the requirements 
of Standing Order 96: 

Alphonse Audet of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Gracia Gagnon Audet. 

Kenneth Allen Blight of St. Eustache-sur-le-Lac, Quebec, husband of Iris 
Maureen Barnett Blight. 

Marjorie McEachern Brown, wife of Arnold Galbraith Brown of Montreal, 
Quebec. 



A.D. 1962 MONDAY, 26th MARCH 279 

James Campbell of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Doris Lucy Gaylor 
Campbell. 

William Rankin Edmondson of the Town of Mount Royal, Quebec, husband 
of Marjorie Beryl Blodgett Edmondson. 

Gordon Gibb of Granby, Quebec, husband of Georgette Carmen Nolin 
Gibb. 

Donald Edgar Hicks of Grand Falls, Newfoundland, husband of Frances 
Marie Benson Hicks. 

Karl Heinz Kerlikowsky of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Elisabeth Ingrid 
Lopinski Kerlikowsky. 

Barbara Joan Sonia Horsfield Lowther, wife of Gordon Readman Lowther 
of Hudson, Quebec. 

Vera Irene Scott MacKenzie, wife of William George MacKenzie of Lachute, 
Quebec. 

Mallie Fanny Kac Newman, wife of Oscar Newman of Montreal, Quebec. 

Paul Parizeau of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Georgette Clement Parizeau. 

Marie Henriette Antoinette Marguerite Bloodworth Csurguay Pringle, 
wife of Bruce Welsh Pringle of Montreal, Quebec. 

Frieda Lina Witt Schaub, wife of Clemens Heinrich Schaub of Hampstead, 
Quebec. 

Audrey Barbara Harris Sutton, wife of Frederick Albert Sutton of Mont- 
real, Quebec. 

Leo Paul Turcotte of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Henriette Leborgne 
Turcotte. 



At 10.03 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until tomorrow at 2.30 o'clock p.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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2.30 o'clock p.m. 



Prayers. 



Bill C-80, An Act to amend the Veterans' Land Act, was read the second 
time and referred to the Standing Committee on Veterans Affairs. 



The House resumed debate on the proposed motion of Mr. Churchill for 
Mr. Hamilton (Qu'Appelle), seconded by Mr. MacLean (Queens), — That Bill 
C-75, An Act to amend the Canadian Wheat Board Act, be now read a second 
time. 

After further debate, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to on the following division: 

Yeas 

Messrs: 



Aitken (Miss), 


Boulanger, 


Charlton, 


Doucett, 


Argue, 


Bourque, 


Chatterton, 


Dumas, 


Badanai, 


Brassard 


Chevrier, 


Dupuis, 


Balcer, 


(Chicoutimi), 


Churchill, 


English, 


Baldwin, 


Broome, 


Clermont, 


Eudes, 


Barrington, 


Browne (St. John's 


Coates, 


Fairclough (Mrs.), 


Baskin, 


West), 


Cooper, 


Fane, 


Beech, 


Brunsden, 


Creaghan, 


Fisher, 


Bell (Carleton), 


Cadieu, 


Crestohl, 


Fleming (Eglinton), 


Bell (Saint John- 


Campbell 


Crouse, 


Flynn, 


Albert), 


(Lambton-Kent), 


Denis, 


Forbes, 


Belzile, 


Cardin, 


Deschatelets, 


Forgie, 


Benidickson, 


Caron, 


Diefenbaker, 


Fournier, 


Bigg, 


Carter, 


Dinsdale, 


Fulton, 


Boivin, 


Chambers, 


Dorion, 


Garland, 


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Grafftey, 


Loiselle, 


Nesbitt, 


Rogers, 


Granger, 


Macdonald (Mrs.), 


Nielsen, 


Rompre, 


Grenier, 


MacEwan, 


Noble, 


Rouleau, 


Grills, 


MacLean (Queens), 


Nowlan, 


Rynard, 


Gundlock, 


Macquarrie, 


Nugent, 


Skoreyko, 


Habel, 


MacRae, 


O'Hurley, 


Small, 


Halpenny, 


McBain, 


O'Leary, 


Smallwood, 


Hamilton 


McCleave, 


Ormiston, 


Smith (Calgary 


(Notre-Dame- 


McFarlane, 


Pallett, 


South), 


de-Grace), 


McGrath, 


Parizeau, 


Smith (Lincoln), 


Harkness, 


Mcllraith, 


Pascoe, 


Smith (Simcoe 


Henderson, 


McMillan, 


Paul, 


North), 


Herridge, 


McPhillips, 


Payne, 


Smith (Winnipeg 


Hodgson, 


McQuillan, 


Pearson, 


North), 


Horner 


McWilliam, 


Peters, 


Southam, 


(The Battlefords), 


Mandziuk, 


Phillips, 


Spencer, 


Howe, 


Martin (Timmins), 


Pickersgill, 


Stefanson, 


Jorgenson, 


Martini, 


Pigeon, 


Stewart, 


Jung, 


Matheson, 


Pratt, 


Tardif, 


Keays, 


Matthews, 


Racine, 


Thomas, 


Kennedy, 


Milligan, 


Rapp, 


Thrasher, 


Kindt, 


Mitchell, 


Regier, 


Tucker, 


Knowles, 


Monteith (Perth), 


Regnier, 


Villeneuve, 


Kucherepa, 


Monteith (Verdun), 


Ricard, 


Vivian, 


Lahaye, 


Montgomery, 


Richard 


Webb, 


LaMarsh (Miss), 


Morissette, 


(Kamouraska), 


Webster, 


Latour, 


Morris, 


Richard 


Weichel, 


Leduc, 


Morton, 


(Saint-Maurice- 


White, 


Legere, 


Muir (Cape 


Lafleche), 


Winch, 


Lennard, 


Breton North 


Roberge, 


Winkler, 


Lessard, 


and Victoria), 


Robichaud, 


Woolliams, 


Letourneau, 


Muir (Lisgar), 


Robinson, 


Wratten— 173. 




Nays 


;— Nil. 





Accordingly, the said bill was read the second time, considered in Com- 
mittee of the Whole; 

And the House continuing in Committee; 

At 5.00 o'clock p.m. Mr. Speaker took the Chair. 



(Private Members' Business was called pursuant to Standing Order 15(3) 
as provisionally amended) 

(Private Bills) 

Bill S-13, An Act to incorporate Polaris Pipe Lines, was read the second 
time and referred to the Standing Committee on Railways, Canals and 
Telegraph Lines. 



Bill S-14, An Act respecting Canada Security Assurance Company, was 
read the second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Banking 
and Commerce. 



A.D. 1962 TUESDAY, 27th MARCH 283 

The Order being read for the second reading of Bill S-ll, An Act respect- 
ing The Governing Council of The Salvation Army, Canada East, and The 
Governing Council of The Salvation Army, Canada West; 

Mr. Wratten, seconded by Mr. Nielsen, moved, — That the said bill be now- 
read a second time. 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 

Accordingly, the said bill was read the second time and referred to the 
Standing Committee on Miscellaneous Private Bills. 

(Public Bills) 

The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-28, An Act to 
amend the British North America Acts, 1867 to 1960, with respect to 
Representation in the Senate; 

Mr. Nielsen, seconded by Mr. Wratten, moved, — That the said bill be now 
read a second time. 

And the question being proposed; 

RULING BY MR. SPEAKER 

Mr. Speaker: Before calling on the honourable Member who moves the 
bill, may I remind the House that the last time this bill was called I raised 
the question as to whether it might be a money bill requiring a resolution 
and the authority of the Ministry before it could be proceeded with. I have come 
to the conclusion, subject to such persuasion as may be exercised by honourable 
Members who wish to discuss the point, that it is not clearly enough a money 
bill for me to take the responsibility of preventing debate. I am, therefore, 
disposed to allow the mover to proceed, unless some honourable Member 
wishes to object to that course and persuades me it is not the right course. 

I think I should state briefly w T hat considerations arise, because it is not 
without importance. Bill C-28 provides for an amendment to sections 21 and 
22 of the British North America Act so as to increase the number of Senators 
from 102, the present number, to 104. In other words, the bill provides for 
the addition of two Senators to the Senate. Now the consequence of passing 
this bill would be that those Senators, under the provisions of the Senate and 
House of Commons Act, Chapter 249 of the Revised Statutes of Canada, 1952, 
would become entitled to compensation as Senators and would be paid accord- 
ingly. So an indirect consequence of passing this bill would be to expend 
from the public purse the emoluments which are payable under another Act 
to the two additional Senators after they have been appointed. The consequence 
of passing the bill would, therefore, be an expenditure of public funds. 

However, I rather take the view that the expenditure of public funds 
is already authorized by the Senate and House of Commons Act which provides 
for the payment of Senators apparently in anticipation of the appointment of 
additional Senators as well as of additional Members of Parliament. So authority 
for payment has already been given by Parliament. It was given when it 
passed the Senate and House of Commons Act; and this bill, which does not 
in itself provide for any payment, might therefore be regarded as not being 
a money bill, even though it sets in motion the other Act and would, therefore, 
involve expenditure. 

There is one precedent, and it is on the basis of this precedent that I 

propose to allow the matter to proceed. There is the Representation Act, 

Chapter 15 of the Statutes of 1952, called "An Act to amend the British North 

America Acts 186 7 to 1951, with respect to the Readjustment of Representa- 

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tion in the House of Commons". This was introduced as Bill No. 331 on June 
10, 1952. It was introduced without notice. It was not preceded by resolution, 
nor did it have the recommendation of the Crown, although as a result of the 
bill the number of Members of the House of Commons was increased from 
255 to 265 and an additional Member was provided for the Northwest Ter- 
ritories. In that case the House proceeded to increase the number of Members 
of Parliament and thereby to increase the emoluments to which Members 
were entitled. It seems the cases are parallel. It is the only precedent and, 
therefore, I think the proper course would be to register this query about 
the bill so that it will not stand in the way of future decisions, but not to press 
the point to the extent that debate would be discontinued. 

I am reinforced in my view by thinking that one should settle these 
matters giving the benefit of the doubt to the authority of a Private Member 
of the House to proceed to raise such matters as he thinks may properly be 
brought before Parliament, not by ruling in a restrictive way. 



And debate arising on the motion, — That Bill C-28, An Act to amend the 
British North America Acts, 1867 to 1960, with respect to Representation in 
the Senate, be now read a second time; 



The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



The House resumed consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bill C-75, 
An Act to amend the Canadian Wheat Board Act, which was reported without 
amendment. 

By unanimous consent, the said bill was read the third time and passed. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — 
Report of the Master of the Royal Canadian Mint for the year ended December 
31, 1961, pursuant to section 21 of the Currency, Mint and Exchange Fund Act, 
chapter 315, R.S.C., 1952. 

By Mr. Hamilton (Notre-Dame-de-Grace), a Member of the Queen's 
Privy Council, by command of His Excellency the Governor-General, — Report 
of the Postmaster General for the year ended March 31, 1961, pursuant to 
section 77 of the Post Office Act, chapter 212, R.S.C., 1952. (English and 
French). 



At ten o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until tomorrow at 2.30 o'clock p.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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OTTAWA, WEDNESDAY, 28th MARCH, 1962. 

2.30 o'clock p.m. 



Prayers. 



Mr. McCleave, from the Standing Committee on Miscellaneous Private 
Bills, presented the First Report of the said Committee, which was read as 
follows: 

Your Committee recommends that its quorum be reduced from 15 to 10 
Members, and that Standing Order 65(1) (c) be suspended in relation thereto. 

By unanimous consent, on motion of Mr. McCleave, seconded by Mr. 
Chatterton, the said Report was concurred in. 



Mr. McCleave, from the Standing Committee on Miscellaneous Private 
Bills, presented the Second Report of the said Committee, which is as follows: 

Your Committee has considered Bill S-5, An Act to incorporate Evangelical 
Mennonite Mission Conference, and has agreed to report it without amendment. 



The following Question was made an Order for Return under the provi- 
sions of Standing Order 39(4) as provisionally amended: 

Question No. 325, by Mr. Pitman, — Order of the House for a Return 
showing: What has been the total expenditure of the Department of Transport 
in the federal Electoral District of Peterborough in each of the past 10 years? 



On motion of Mr. Pickersgill for Mr. Chevrier, seconded by Mr. Cardin, 
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286 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

praying that he will cause to be laid before this House a copy of all cor- 
respondence exchanged between the Minister of Justice and the Attorneys 
General or other Provincial Ministers since July 1, 1960, regarding the method 
of amending the Constitution of Canada. — (Notice of Motion for the Production 
of Papers No. 2). 



Notices of Motions for the Production of Papers (Nos. 35, 36, and 38) 
having been called were allowed to stand at the request of the government. 



On motion of Mr. Badanai, seconded by Mr. Dupuis, it was ordered, — That 
there be laid before this House a copy of all correspondence since January 1, 
1961, between the Minister of Public Works and other persons and associa- 
tions outside the government, regarding the construction of a new building 
to house the Unemployment Insurance Commission and a new Post Office in 
the City of Fort William. — (Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers 
No. 37). 



On motion of Mr. Badanai, seconded by Mr. Dupuis, it was ordered, — 
That there be laid before this House a copy of all correspondence since January 
1, 1958, between the Minister of Agriculture and other persons and associations 
outside the government, regarding any operation or plans of the Department 
of Agriculture dealing with illustration stations or the establishment of any 
permanent experimental station in the Thunder Bay District (more particularly 
in the vicinity of Port Arthur and Fort William). — (Notice of Motion for the 
Production of Papers No. 39). 



The House resolved itself again into Committee of Supply, and progress 
having been made and reported, the Committee obtained leave to sit again 
at the next sitting of the House. 



(At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Private Members' Business was called pursuant to 
Standing Order 15(3) as provisionally amended) 

(Notices of Motions) 

Item No. 16, having been called for the first time, was allowed to stand 
at the request of the government. 



Mr. Regier, seconded by Mr. Winch, moved, — That, in the opinion of this 
House, the government should give immediate consideration to the develop- 
ment of a national transportation policy so that the transportation needs of 
Canada can be met with a minimum degree of subsidization of competing 
forms of public transport. — (Notice of Motion No. 17). 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



A.D. 1962 WEDNESDAY, 28th MARCH 287 

Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following paper having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
was laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Dorion, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Return to an 
Address, dated March 21, 1962, to His Excellency the Governor-General (Notice 
of Motion for the Production of Papers No. 34) for a copy of all correspondence 
since October 1, 1961, between the Board of Broadcast Governors on the one 
hand and any other person on the other, respecting a program on television 
station CJCH-TV Halifax, entitled "Youth Wants to Know". 



At six o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until tomorrow at 2.30 o'clock p.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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OTTAWA, THURSDAY, 29th MARCH, 1962. 

2.30 o'clock p.m. 



Prayers. 



A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Senate had passed the following bills to which the concurrence of this House 
is desired: 

Bill S-12, An Act respecting Reliance Insurance Company of Canada. — 
Mr. Lafreniere. 

Bill S-15, An Act respecting The Canadian Indemnity Company and the 
Canadian Fire Insurance Company. — Mr. Smith (Winnipeg North). 

Bill S-16, An Act respecting The United Church of Canada. — Mr. Morton. 

Bill S-18, An Act to incorporate Greymac Mortgage Corporation. — Mr. 
McCleave. 

The said bills were deemed to have been read the first time and ordered 
for a second reading at the next sitting of the House pursuant to Standing 
Order 103(2). 



A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Senate had passed Bill S-19, An Act to amend the Canada Grain Act, to which 
the concurrence of this House is desired. 



Mr. Hees, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, laid before the House, 
— Analysis of Commodities Insured by the Export Credits Insurance Corpora- 
tion for the year ended December 31, 1961. 

By unanimous consent, it was ordered that the said document be printed 
as an Appendix to this day's Hansard. 



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290 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

On motion of Mr. Pallett, seconded by Mr. Ricard, it was ordered, — That 
the name of Mr. Webb be substituted for that of Mr. Lennard on the Stand- 
ing Committee on Veterans Affairs. 



Mr. Creaghan, seconded by Mr. McFarlane, moved for leave to introduce 
a bill intituled: "An Act to amend the Public Service Pension Adjustment 
Act (To include Provident Fund Pensioners)". 

And a point of order having been raised by Mr. Speaker to the effect that 
the said bill appeared to contain a money provision; 

By unanimous consent, it was ordered that consideration of the point of 
order on the said motion stand over until Monday, April 2, 1962. 



The House resolved itself again into Committee of Supply; 

And the House continuing in Committee; 

At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker took the Chair. 



(Private Members' Business was called pursuant to Standing Order 15(3) 
as provisionally amended) 

(Private Bills) 

Bill S-5, An Act to incorporate Evangelical Mennonite Mission Conference, 
was considered in Committee of the Whole, reported without amendment, 
read the third time and passed. 

(Public Bills) 

The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-33, An Act to 
amend the National Energy Board Act (Drainage Works) ; 

Mr. Thomas, seconded by Mr. Smith (Lincoln), moved, — That the said 
bill be now read a second time. 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



The Committee of Supply resumed. 

(In the Committee) 
The following resolutions were adopted: 

FURTHER SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES (4), 1961-62 

AGRICULTURE 

Administration Branch 

675 Departmental Administration — Further amount required $ 77,500 00 

676 Contributions to Commonwealth Agricultural Bureaux — 

To increase by £3,553 the amount provided for in 
Vote 3, Main Estimates, 1961-62; the equivalent in 
Canadian dollars, estimated as of February, 1962, is 10,446 00 



A.D. 1962 THURSDAY, 29th MARCH 291 

Production and Marketing Branch 

677 Subsidies for Cold Storage Warehouses under the Cold 

Storage Act — Further amount required 78,588 00 

Health of Animals Division — 

678 Payment of compensation to owners of animals affected 

with diseases coming under the Animal Contagious 
Diseases Act, which have died or have been 
slaughtered in circumstances not covered by the 
above Act and Regulations made thereunder, all 
as detailed in the Estimates 8,417 00 

Livestock Division — 

679 Supervision of Race Track Betting — Further amount 

required 28,000 00 

680 Grants to Agricultural Fairs, Exhibitions and Museums 

in accordance with regulations of the Governor in 

Council — Further amount required 130,000 00 

Plant Products Division — 

681 Contribution to Prince Edward Island, in accordance 

with terms and conditions prescribed by the Gov- 
ernor in Council, of one-half of amounts paid by 
that Province to potato growers in respect of their 
1960 crop as compensation for losses due to 
fusarium rot to a maximum contribution by 
Canada of $300 in respect of any one farm — Fur- 
ther amount required 70,000 00 

682 Agricultural Lime Assistance — Further amount re- 

quired 1,362,000 00 



Land Rehabilitation, Irrigation and Water Storage Projects 

683 Reimbursement of the Prairie Farm Rehabilitation Act 

Revolving Fund for the value of stores which have 

become obsolete, unserviceable, lost or destroyed . . 1,403 00 

Special 

684 Estimated amount required to recoup the Agricultural 

Products Board Account to cover the net operating 

loss recorded in the Account as at March 31, 1962 . . 4,861,998 00 

685 Estimated amount required to recoup the Agricultural 

Commodities Stabilization Account to cover the net 
operating loss of the Agricultural Stabilization Board 
as at March 31, 1962 23,139,333 00 

ATOMIC ENERGY 

Atomic Energy Control Board 

686 Administration Expenses of the Atomic Energy Control 

Board — Further amount required 1,400 00 

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CITIZENSHIP AND IMMIGRATION 
Indian Affairs Branch 

Reserves and Trusts — 

687 Operation and Maintenance — Further amount required 59,500 00 

Welfare of Indians — 

688 Operation and Maintenance — To increase to $65,000 

the grant to the Province of Manitoba of one-half 
of the cost of a program of community develop- 
ment and to provide a further amount of 765,000 00 

CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION 

689 Salaries and Contingencies of the Commission including 

compensation in accordance with the Suggestion 
Award Plan of the Public Service of Canada — Further 
amount required 5,000 00 

DEFENCE PRODUCTION 
A — Department 

690 Care, Maintenance and Custody of Standby Defence 

Plants, Buildings, Machine Tools and Production Tool- 
ing — Further amount required 100,000 00 

B — Crown Companies 

Canadian Arsenals Limited — 

691 Administration and Operation — To extend the pur- 

poses of Vote 74, Main Estimates, 1961-62, to 
reimburse Canadian Arsenals Limited in respect 
of outstanding balances of previous years' operat- 
ing deficits 1 00 

Resolutions to be reported. 



The said resolutions were reported and concurred in, and the Committee 
of Supply obtained leave to sit again at the next sitting of the House. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Dorion, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Return to an 
Order of the House, dated March 5, 1962, (* Question No. 217) showing: What 
is the aggregate of loans or gifts, by way of money or arms, made to Soviet 
Russia by the Canadian Government during the last World War? 

By Mr. Dorion, — Return to an Order of the House, dated March 19, 1962, 
(Question No. 309) showing: 1. What amounts has the Department of National 
Defence paid during 1959, 1960, and 1961 for the military training of cadets 
and students (militia) attending the schools of the Catholic School Board of 
Montreal? 



A.D. 1962 THURSDAY, 29th MARCH 293 

2. What are the names of the officers (with addresses) being paid in each 
of these schools, and the amounts paid to each of them in each of the said 
years? 

3. What amount has been paid to each of the following schools for the 
maintenance of uniforms, rifles, equipment, etc.: 

(1) Chomedey de Maisonneuve, 1820 Morgan St., Montreal; 

(2) Jean-Baptiste Meilleur, 2237 Fullum St., Montreal; 

(3) Urgel Archambault, 8300 De Teck, Montreal; 

(4) Philippe-Perrier, 5925 — 27th Avenue, Rosemont, Montreal; 

(5) Pie IX, 10919 Gariepy St., North Montreal; 

(6) Mgr. Georges Gauthier, 750 East Gouin Blvd., Montreal; 

(7) St. Viateur, 7315 DeLanaudiere St., Montreal; 

(8) Christophe-Colomb, 6891 Christophe-Colomb St., Montreal; 

(9) Le Plateau, 3700 Calixa Lavallee St., Montreal; 

(10) Louis Hebert, 6361 — 6th Avenue, Rosemont, Montreal; 

(11) St. Henri, 4105 St. James St., Montreal; 

(12) St. Luc, 5100 St. Luc, Montreal; 

(13) Simon Sanguinet, 1260 Sanguinet St., Montreal; 

(14) Louis Pasteur, 1995 Victor Dore St., Montreal? 

4. What amount has been paid to the officials of each of the said schools? 

By Mr. Hees, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Report and 
Financial Statements of the Export Credits Insurance Corporation, certified 
by the Auditor General, for the year ended December 31, 1961, pursuant to 
sections 17(3) and 18 of the Export Credits Insurance Act, chapter 105, and 
sections 85(3) and 87(3) of the Financial Administration Act, chapter 116, 
R.S.C. 1952. (English and French). 



At ten o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until tomorrow at 11.00 o'clock a.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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11.00 o'clock a.m. 



Prayers. 



One petition for a Private Bill was presented in accordance with Stand- 
ing Order 70(1). 



Mr. Montgomery, from the Standing Committee on Veterans Affairs, 
presented the First Report of the said Committee, which was read as follows: 

Your Committee recommends that it be empowered to print from day to 
day such papers and evidence as may be ordered by the Committee, and that 
Standing Order 66 be suspended in relation thereto. 

By unanimous consent, on motion of Mr. Montgomery, seconded by Mr. 
Beech, the said Report was concurred in. 



Mr. McCleave, from the Standing Committee on Miscellaneous Private 
Bills, presented the Third Report of the said Committee, which is as follows: 

Your Committee has considered Bill S-ll, An Act respecting The Govern- 
ing Council of The Salvation Army, Canada East, and The Governing Council 
of The Salvation Army, Canada West, and has agreed to report it without 
amendment. 



Mr. Howe, from the Standing Committee on Railways, Canals and Tele- 
graph Lines, presented the Fifth Report of the said Committee, which is as 
follows: 

Your Committee has considered Bill S-13, An Act to incorporate Polaris 
Pipe Lines, and has agreed to report it without amendment. 



296 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

A copy of the Minutes of Proceedings and Evidence relating to this bill 
(Issue No. 4) is appended. 

(The Minutes of Proceedings and Evidence accompanying the said Report 
recorded as Appendix No. 4 to the Journals) 



Mr. Howe, from the Standing Committee on Railways, Canals and Tele- 
graph Lines, presented the Sixth Report of the said Committee, which was 
read as follows: 

Your Committee reported this day Bill S-13, An Act to incorporate Polaris 
Pipe Lines, in its Fifth Report. 

Clause 3 of the said bill provides for Capital Stock of ten million shares 
without nominal or par value. 

Your Committee recommends that, for the purpose of levying the charges 
provided for under Standing Order 94(3), the proposed Capital Stock consist- 
ing of ten million common shares without nominal or par value be deemed 
to be worth ten million dollars ($10,000,000). 



On motion of Mr. Pallett, seconded by Mr. Ricard, it was ordered, — That 
the Special Committee to assist Mr. Speaker on Procedure, appointed on March 
26, 1962, be composed of Miss Aitken, Messrs. Balcer, Chown, Churchill, 
Crestohl, Fulton, Howard, Martineau, McCleave, McGee, Mcllraith, Meunier, 
Pallett, Pickersgill, and Ricard. 



The following bill from the Senate was read the first time and ordered 
for a second reading at the next sitting of the House: 

Bill S-19, An Act to amend the Canada Grain Act. — Mr. Hamilton 
(Qu'Appelle). 



The House resolved itself again into Committee of Supply. 

(In the Committee) 
The following resolutions were adopted: 

FURTHER SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES (4), 1961-62 

FINANCE 
Administration of Various Acts and Costs of Special Functions 

Royal Canadian Mint — 

707 Administration, Operation and Maintenance — Further 

amount required $ 42,000 00 

708 Construction or Acquisition of Equipment — Further 

amount required 13,000 00 

Subsidies and Other Payments to Provinces 
Special Payments to Provinces 

709 Payments to the Government of each Province, in respect 

of income tax collected from corporations whose main 
business is the distribution to or generation for distri- 



A.D. 1962 FRIDAY, 30th MARCH 297 

bution to the public of electrical energy, gas or steam, 
of amounts computed in accordance with section 6 
of The Tax Rental Agreements Act, 1952, as if the last 
two lines of subsection (1) of that section read as fol- 
lows: " ending on the thirty-first day of Decem- 
ber, one thousand nine hundred and fifty-nine" — 
Further amount required 396,559 00 

Contingencies and Miscellaneous 

710 To authorize the Treasury Board to delete from the ac- 

counts certain debts due, and claims by, Her Majesty, 
each of which is in excess of $1,000, amounting in the 
aggregate to $3,710,688 1 00 

General Items of Payroll Costs 
Including Superannuation Payments 

711 To supplement other votes, subject to the approval of the 

Treasury Board, for the payment of salaries, wages 

and other paylist charges — Further amount required 2,500,000 00 

712 To authorize persons who become employed in the Public 

Service as a result of the transfer of administration of 
the Vancouver Airport to the Department of Trans- 
port and who, immediately prior to such transfer, were 
employed by the City of Vancouver, to count as pen- 
sionable service under the Public Service Superannua- 
tion Act, notwithstanding anything contained therein, 
their service with the City of Vancouver on the basis 
that the amount required to be paid by them, in re- 
spect of such service, shall be determined, in accord- 
ance with regulations to be made by the Treasury 
Board, as if an agreement had been entered into with 
the City of Vancouver pursuant to section 28 of the 
Public Service Superannuation Act in terms similar to 
those contained in such agreements that have been 
entered into with other public service employers . . 1 00 

FISHERIES 
Special 

713 Estimated amount required to recoup the Lobster Trap 

Indemnity Account established under Vote 540 of the 
Appropriation Act No. 5, 1955, to cover the net oper- 
ating loss in the Account as at March 31, 1962 . . 99,000 00 

JUSTICE 
A — Department 

714 Departmental Administration — Further amount required 75,500 00 

Northwest Territories — 

715 Administration of Justice in the Northwest Territories, 

including the Northwest Territories Territorial 

Court — Further amount required 47,000 00 



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Yukon Territory — 

716 Administration of Justice in the Yukon Territory, in- 

cluding the Yukon Territorial Court — Further 

amount required 41,000 00 

Combines Investigation Act — 

717 Restrictive Trade Practices Commission — Further 

amount required 5,000 00 

718 Bankruptcy Act Administration — Further amount required 25,000 00 

Pensions and Other Benefits 

719 Gratuities to the Widows or Other Dependents of Judges 

who die while in office — Further amount required 9,000 00 

B — Penitentiaries 

720 Reimbursement of the Industrial Revolving Fund estab- 

lished by Vote 628 of the Appropriation Act No. 2, 
1955, for the value of materials which were destroyed 
by fire 14,145 00 

LEGISLATION 
House of Commons 

721 Canada's share of the expenses of the Commonwealth 

Parliamentary Association including subscriptions to 
publications of the Association — Further amount 
required 1,000 00 

722 General Administration — Estimates of the Clerk — Further 

amount required 148,000 00 

MINES AND TECHNICAL SURVEYS 

A — Department 

General 

723 Polar Continental Shelf Project — Further amount re- 

quired 103,565 00 

NATIONAL DEFENCE 
Royal Canadian Navy 

724 Operation and Maintenance — Further amount required 3,500,000 00 

NATIONAL HEALTH AND WELFARE 
National Health Branch 

Health Services, including Assistance to the Provinces — 

725 To authorize Hospital Construction Grants to the 

Provinces, the Northwest Territories and the 
Yukon Territory upon the terms and in the 
amounts detailed in the Estimates — Further 
amount required 2,000,000 00 



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Welfare Branch 

726 To authorize payment to the Government of the Province 

of Prince Edward Island in respect of the month of 
January, 1961, on account of claims submitted under 
an agreement entered into with that Province pur- 
suant to the Unemployment Assistance Act notwith- 
standing that claims were not made within the time 
required as provided in paragraph 13 of the said 
agreement 15,708 00 

NORTHERN AFFAIRS AND NATIONAL RESOURCES 
National Parks Branch 

National Parks and Historic Sites and Monuments — 

727 Administration, Operation and Maintenance — Further 

amount required 163,000 00 

Resolutions to be reported. 



The said resolutions were reported and concurred in, and the Committee 
of Supply obtained leave to sit again at the next sitting of the House. 



By unanimous consent, Mr. Bell (Carleton), Parliamentary Secretary to 
the Minister of Finance, laid before the House, — Basic Details of Cases Presented 
for Deletion from Accounts and Summary of Debts Presented for Deletion 
from Public Accounts, Further Supplementary Estimates (4), 1961-62. 



A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Senate had passed the following bill to which the concurrence of this House 
is desired: 

Bill S-17, An Act respecting Canadian Pacific Railway Company and 
certain wholly owned subsidiaries. — Mr. Stewart. 

The said bill was deemed to have been read the first time and ordered 
for a second reading at the next sitting of the House pursuant to Standing 
Order 103(2). 

(Private Members' Business was called pursuant to Standing Order 15(3) 
as provisionally amended) 



By unanimous consent, Order No. 2 under Private Bills was given 
precedence. 

Whereupon, the Order being read for the second reading of Bill S-15, An 
Act respecting The Canadian Indemnity Company and the Canadian Fire 
Insurance Company; 

Mr. Smith (Winnipeg North), seconded by Mr. Bigg, moved. — That the 
said bill be now read a second time. 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 



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Accordingly, the said bill was read the second time and referred to the 
Standing Committee on Banking and Commerce. 

(Public Bills) 

The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-34, An Act to 
amend the Canada Elections Act (Campaign Contributions); 

Mr. McGee, seconded by Mr. Henderson, moved, — That the said bill be 
now read a second time. 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Fulton, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, by command of 
His Excellency the Governor-General, — Report of the Royal Canadian Mounted 
Police for the year ended March 31, 1961. 

By Mr. O'Hurley, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, by command 
of His Excellency the Governor-General, — Report of the Department of Defence 
Production for the year ended December 31, 1961, pursuant to section 34 of 
the Defence Production Act, chapter 62, R.S.C., 1952. (English and French). 

By Mr. O'Hurley, — Report of Polymer Corporation Limited, including its 
Accounts and Financial Statement certified by the Auditor General, for the 
year ended December 31, 1961, pursuant to sections 85(3) and 87(3) of the 
Financial Administration Act, chapter 116, R.S.C., 1952. (English and French). 



At 6.02 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until Monday next at 2.30 o'clock p.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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2.30 o'clock p.m. 



Prayers. 



On motion of Mr. Howe, seconded by Mr. Robinson, the Sixth Report of 
the Standing Committee on Railways, Canals and Telegraph Lines presented 
to the House on Friday, March 30, 1962, was concurred in. 



Mr. Howard, seconded by Mr. Martin (Timmins), by leave of the House, 
introduced Bill C-81, An Act respecting the Canada Court of Indian Claims, 
which was read the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next 
sitting of the House. 



Mr. Howard, seconded by Mr. Martin (Timmins), moved for leave to 
introduce Bill C-82, An Act respecting Income Taxes; which was agreed to. 

Mr. Howard, seconded by Mr. Martin (Timmins), moved, — That the said 
bill be now read a first time. 

And the question being put on the said motion, it was negatived on the 
following division: 







Yeas 








Messrs: 




Argue, 


Clermont, 


LaMarsh (Miss), 


Pickersgill, 


Badanai, 


Granger, 


Leduc, 


Regier, 


Benidickson, 


Habel, 


Mcllraith, 


Robichaud, 


Caron, 


Herridge, 


McMillan, 


Tardif, 


Carter, 


Howard, 


Martin (Timmins), 


Tucker, 


Chevrier, 






Winch— 22. 



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Aiken, 

Balcer, 

Baldwin, 

Baskin, 

Bell (Carleton), 

Bigg, 

Brassard 

(Chicoutimi), 
Broome, 
Brunsden, 
Campbell 

(Lambton-Kent), 
Cardiff, 
Cathers, 
Chambers, 
Charlton, 
Chatterton, 
Churchill, 
Crouse, 
Danforth, 
Diefenbaker, 
Doucett, 
Drysdale, 
Dubois, 
English, 



Nays 

Messrs: 

Fleming (Eglinton), Keays, 
Fleming (Okanagan- Korchinski, 

Revelstoke), 
Flemming (Royal), 
Fournier, 
Frechette, 
Fulton, 
Grafftey, 
Green, 
Halpenny, 
Hamilton 

(Notre-Dame- 

de-Grace), 
Hamilton 

(Qu'Appelle), 
Hanbidge, 
Harkness, 
Hicks, 

Horner (Acadia), 
Horner 

(TheBattlefords), 
Howe, 
Jones, 
Jung, 






Legere, 

MacLean (Queens), 

MacLean (Winnipeg 

North Centre), 
Macquarrie, 
McDonald 

(Hamilton South), 
McFarlane, 
McLennan, 
McPhillips, 
Mandziuk, 
Matthews, 
Milligan, 
Monteith (Perth), 
Montgomery, 
Muir (Cape 

Breton North 

and Victoria), 
Muir (Lisgar), 
Murphy, 
Nasserden, 
Nesbitt, 



Nowlan, 

Pascoe, 

Payne, 

Phillips, 

Pigeon, 

Rapp, 

Regnier, 

Ricard, 

Rogers, 

Sevigny, 

Skoreyko, 

Slogan, 

Smith (Calgary 

South), 
Smith (Lincoln), 
Smith (Simcoe 

North), 
Smith (Winnipeg 

North), 
Southam, 
Starr, 
Stewart, 
Villeneuve, 
Weichel, 
Winkler— 84. 



Mr. Howard, seconded by Mr. Martin (Timmins), by leave of the House, 
introduced Bill C-83, An Act to amend the Trans-Canada Highway Act (Can- 
ada Highways), which was read the first time and ordered for a second reading 
at the next sitting of the House. 



Mr. Balcer, seconded by Mr. Churchill, moved, — That the House do go 
into Committee of the Whole at its next sitting to consider the following 
proposed resolution which has been recommended to the House by His 
Excellency: — 

That it is expedient to introduce a measure to amend the Freight Rates 
Reduction Act to extend, but not beyond the 30th day of April, 1963, the 
period during which the revised rates under the said Act shall be applicable 
and to increase the authorized expenditure under the Act by an additional 
fifteen million dollars. 

Resolved, — That the House do go into Committee of the Whole at its 
next sitting to consider the said proposed resolution. 



The following Questions were made Orders for Returns under the provi- 
sion of Standing Order 39(4) as provisionally amended: 

Question No. 248, by Mr. Fisher, — Order of the House for a Return show- 
ing: 1. What support, if any, did the federal government give through any of 
its departments, corporations, etc., to the Canadian Conference of the Arts 
(1961)? 

2. What form did this support or aid take? 

3. What civil servants or officials attended the Conference at government 
expense? 



A.D. 1962 MONDAY, 2nd APRIL 303 

Question No. 329, by Mr. Taylor, — Order of the House for a Return show- 
ing: 1. Has the Department of Transport requested the Canadian Pacific Rail- 
ways to remove its trestle across False Creek in Vancouver, B.C.? 

2. Does the trestle impede navigation? 

3. What is the depth of water at the opening of the trestle at low- water 
mark? 

4. What would be the approximate cost of the removal of the trestle and 
the re-location of the railway lines to the easterly end of False Creek? 

5. Has the National Harbours Board made a study of the cost of removal 
and re-location? 

6. If the trestle impedes navigation, what can the National Harbours 
Board do about the matter? 

* Question No. 343, by Mr. Fisher, — Order of the House for a Return show- 
ing: 1. How long has Mr. J. -Louis Levesque been a Director of the Canadian 
National Railways? 

2. What are his educational qualifications? 

3. Has he any positions or directorships with any other companies or 
corporations; and, if so, what are they? 

Question No. 350, by Mr. Fisher, — -Order of the House for a Return show- 
ing: 1. At how many, and what airports, in Canada does the Department of 
Transport provide terminal services for commercial airlines (including Trans- 
Canada Air Lines)? 

2. What was the revenue at each of these airports in the fiscal years 
1959-60 and 1960-61? 

3. How much of this revenue came from commercial airlines? 

4. What was the cost, where determinable, in these years at each of these 
airports to the government? 

5. How many employees of the Department were employed at these air- 
ports in these years on work that has direct relationship to commercial airline 
operations? 

"Question No. 356, by Mr. McMillan, — Order of the House for a Return 
showing: 1. Does the Department of Transport do business with aircraft builders 
and repair companies; and, if so, for what purposes? 

2. Are tenders called for this work? 

3. How many such companies did work for the Department since 1957, 
what were their names, and in what amounts? 

4. Under what division of the Department does such work fall, and who 
is the superintendent of this division? 

* Question No. 357, by Mr. McMillan, — Order of the House for a Return 
showing: 1. Since 1957, how many planes were purchased by the Department of 
Transport at Ottawa, at what price, and what kind of aircraft? 

2. Did the Department of Transport purchase a new Jet Star recently, 
and at what price? 

3. If it is not being used at the present time, why not? 

4. Were repairs made to it recently; and, if so, why were these repairs 
required, and in what amount? 



304 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

Question No. 378, by Mr. McWilliam, — Order of the House for a Return 
showing: 1. What is the volume and classification of traffic that made use of the 
two locks in the Trent Canal System at Fenelon Falls, Ontario, in 1961? 

2. What is the maximum and minimum drafts of the boats which made 
use of these locks in 1961? 

3. What is the total estimated cost of the lock now under construction 
to replace the two present locks? 



The House resolved itself into Committee of the Whole to consider a 
certain proposed resolution to amend the Judges Act. 

(In the Committee) 

The following resolution was adopted: 

That it is expedient to introduce a measure to amend the Judges Act to 
provide salaries for two additional judges of the Trial Division of the Supreme 
Court of Ontario and seven additional judges of the County and District Courts 
of Ontario including one chief judge. 



Resolution to be reported. 



The said resolution was reported and concurred in. 



Mr. Fulton, seconded by Mr. Monteith (Perth), by leave of the House, 
presented Bill C-84, An Act to amend the Judges Act, which was read the 
first time and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House. 



The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-38, An Act to 
provide for the Reporting of Financial and other Statistics relating to the 
Affairs of Corporations and Labour Unions carrying on Activities in Canada; 

Mr. Fulton, seconded by Mr. Monteith (Perth), moved, — That the said 
bill be now read a second time. 

And debate arising thereon; 



(At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Private Members' Business was called pursuant to 
Standing Order 15(3) as provisionally amended) 

(Notices of Motions) 

Mr. Allard, seconded by Mr. Dubois, moved, — That, in the opinion of this 
House, consideration should be given to the advisability of referring the 
recommendations of the Tariff Board on textiles to the Standing Committee 
on Banking and Commerce for the purpose of examining and reporting on the 
problems of the textile industry, more particularly in connection with foreign 
imports. — (Notice of Motion No. 16). 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



A.D. 1962 MONDAY, 2nd APRIL 305 

Debate was resumed on the proposed motion of Mr. Fulton, seconded by 
Mr. Monteith (Perth),— That Bill C-38, An Act to provide for the Reporting 
of Financial and other Statistics relating to the Affairs of Corporations and 
Labour Unions carrying on Activities in Canada, be now read a second time. 

And debate continuing; 

Mr. Martin (Timmins), seconded by Mr. Howard, moved in amendment 
thereto, — That all the words after "That" be struck out and the following 
substituted therefor: "this House declines to proceed with a bill the provisions 
of which do not provide that corporations and unions be required to make 
public the amounts of money which they contribute to political parties and 
candidates for public office." 

And a point of order having been raised by the Minister of Justice (Mr. 
Fulton) to the effect that the amendment was irrelevant to the purpose of the 
proposed legislation; 

And debate arising on the point of order; 

RULING BY MR. SPEAKER 

Mr. Speaker: The amendment which has been submitted by the honourable 
Member for Timmins (Mr. Martin) is framed as a reasoned amendment which 
is quite admissible on second reading of the bill. 

Citation 382 of Beauchesne's fourth edition reads: "It is also competent to 
a member who desires to place on record any special reasons for not agree- 
ing to the second reading of a bill, to move as an amendment to the question, 
a resolution declaratory of some principle adverse to, or differing from, the 
principles, policy, or provisions of the bill, or expressing opinions as to any 
circumstances connected with its introduction, or prosecution; or otherwise 
opposed to its progress; or seeking further information in relation to the bill 
by committees," and so on. The amendment appears to be of that type, on 
its face. The bill is one which will require corporations and trade unions to 
submit information. The reasoned amendment is that the bill does not require 
certain information to be submitted. The question I am to decide is whether 
that is a declaration of a principle contrary to the bill or whether, as is 
argued, it goes so completely outside the bill as not to be related to it. 

It is a fact that we have on the Order Paper two propositions about 
contributions to political parties and candidates for public office, but dealing 
with the making of contributions rather than the making of returns with 
respect to contributions. This amendment refers only to the making of returns 
or to the giving of public information. 

I think the subject-matter introduced, that of contributions to political 
parties, is in reality entirely unrelated to the bill, but it is introduced in a 
way that gives a semblance of connection to the bill in that it is related to 
the giving of information. With ingenuity one could think of a great many 
kinds of information that might be required of any corporation or union and 
thereby be made the subject of returns and, consequently, the subject of an 
amendment in this bill. 

On the whole, I think the subject-matter of the proposed public informa- 
tion is unrelated to the bill. It is another kind of problem. It is the problem 
of contributions to political parties rather than the constitution of the corpora- 
tion or union and, therefore, is not a subject-matter entirely germane to the 



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bill, even though it has the semblance of being related to the bill, because 
it is related to the giving of information. On that ground I think I would be 
disposed to rule the amendment out of order, although not without some 
doubt, and I declare the amendment out of order. 

After further debate on the main motion, — That Bill C-38, An Act to 
provide for the Reporting of Financial and other Statistics relating to the 
Affairs of Corporations and Labour Unions carrying on Activities in Canada, 
be now read a second time, it was agreed to. 

Accordingly, the said bill was read the second time. 

Whereupon Mr. Fulton, seconded by Mr. Churchill, moved, — That Mr. 
Speaker do now leave the Chair for the House to go into Committee of the 
Whole on the said bill. 

And the question being put on the said motion, it was agreed to, on 
division. 

Accordingly, the said bill was considered in Committee of the Whole, 
and progress having been made and reported, the Committee obtained leave 
to consider it again at the next sitting of the House. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Diefenbaker, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Statutory 
Orders and Regulations published in the Canada Gazette, Part II, of Wednesday, 
March 28, 1962, pursuant to section 7 of the Regulations Act, chapter 235, 
R.S.C., 1952. (English and French). 

By Mr. Diefenbaker, — Statutory Orders and Regulations published as an 
Extra in the Canada Gazette, Part II, of Friday, March 30, 1962, containing 
the Civil Service Regulations effective April 1, 1962, pursuant to section 7 
of the Regulations Act, chapter 235, R.S.C., 1952. (English and French). 

By Mr. Balcer, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Report of the 
National Harbours Board, including its Accounts and Financial Statements 
certified by the Auditor General, for the year ended December 31, 1961, 
pursuant to section 32 of the National Harbours Board Act, chapter 187, and 
sections 85(3) and 87(3) of the Financial Administration Act, chapter 116, 
R.S.C., 1952. 

By Mr. Balcer, — Capital Budget of the Canadian Overseas Telecommunica- 
tion Corporation for the year ending March 31, 1963, pursuant to section 80(2) 
of the Financial Administration Act, chapter 116, R.S.C., 1952, together with 
a copy of Order in Council P.C. 1962-416, dated March 27, 1962, approving 
same. 

By Mr. Dorion, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Return to an 
Order of the House, dated March 12, 1962, ("Question No. 255) showing: 1. 
What is the difference in substance between the duties of a "messenger" and a 
"confidential messenger"? 

2. Why is the minimum and maximum rate for a messenger so much lower 
than that for a confidential messenger? 



A.D. 1962 MONDAY, 2nd APRIL 307 

3. Why is there a higher rate for a messenger who was appointed prior 
to April 1, 1955? 

4. How many people are there employed in Ottawa at this date under 
the three categories of messenger, messenger appointed prior to April 1, 
1955, and confidential messenger? 

5. Has any consideration been given recently to rationalizing the salary 
rates of messengers in the government service in order to achieve equity 
amongst people doing the same or similar jobs? 

By Mr. Fulton, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Return to an 
Address, dated March 28, 1962, to His Excellency the Governor-General 
(Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers No. 2) for a copy of all cor- 
respondence exchanged between the Minister of Justice and the Attorneys 
General or other Provincial Ministers since July 1, 1960, regarding the method 
of amending the Constitution of Canada. 

By Mr. Hees, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Report on the 
Activities of the National Energy Board for the year ended December 31, 
1961, pursuant to section 91 of the National Energy Board Act, chapter 46, 
Statutes of Canada, 1959. 

Thirteenth Report of the Clerk of Petitions, pursuant to Standing Order 
70(7), as follows: — 

The Clerk of Petitions has the honour to report that the petition of the 
following for a divorce Act, filed after February 28, 1962, and presented on 
March 30 by Mr. McCleave, meets the requirements of Standing Order 70. 
However, this petition was not filed within the time limit specified by Stand- 
ing Order 93. 

Ginette Noela Melanie Hugon Soulier, wife of Robert Jean Soulier of 
Montreal, Quebec. 



At 10.03 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until tomorrow at 2.30 o'clock p.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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OTTAWA, TUESDAY, 3rd APRIL, 1962. 

2.30 o'clock p.m. 



Prayers. 



Mr. Montgomery, from the Standing Committee on Veterans Affairs, 
presented the Second Report of the said Committee, which was read as follows: 

Your Committee recommends that its quorum be reduced from 15 to 10 
Members, and that Standing Order 65(1) (n) be suspended in relation thereto. 

By unanimous consent, on motion of Mr. Montgomery, seconded by Mr, 
Robinson, the said Report was concurred in. 



Mr. Montgomery, from the Standing Committee on Veterans Affairs, 
presented the Third Report of the said Committee, which is as follows: 

Your Committee has considered Bill C-80, An Act to amend the Veterans' 
Land Act, and has agreed to report it without amendment. 

A copy of the Minutes of Proceedings and Evidence relating to this bill 
(Issue No. 1) is appended. 

(The Minutes of Proceedings and Evidence accompanying the said Report 
recorded as Appendix No. 5 to the Journals) 



Bill C-84, An Act to amend the Judges Act, was read the second time, 
considered in Committee of the Whole, and reported without amendment. 

By unanimous consent, the said bill was read the third time and passed. 



310 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

Bill C-38, An Act to provide for the Reporting of Financial and other 
Statistics relating to the Affairs of Corporations and Labour Unions carrying 
on Activities in Canada, was again considered in Committee of the Whole; 

And the House continuing in Committee; 

At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker took the Chair. 



(Private Members' Business was called pursuant to Standing Order 15(3) 
as provisionally amended) 

(Private Bills) 

Bill S-ll, An Act respecting The Governing Council of The Salvation 
Army, Canada East, and The Governing Council of The Salvation Army, Can- 
ada West, was considered in Committee of the Whole, reported without amend- 
ment, read the third time and passed. 



Bill S-13, An Act to incorporate Polaris Pipe Lines, was considered in 
Committee of the Whole, reported without amendment, read the third time 
and passed. 



The Order being read for the second reading of Bill S-12, An Act respect- 
ing Reliance Insurance Company of Canada; 

Mr. Smith (Winnipeg North) for Mr. Lafreniere, seconded by Mr. Rompre 
moved, — That the said bill be now read a second time. 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 

Accordingly, the said bill was read the second time and referred to the 
Standing Committee on Banking and Commerce. 



The Order being read for the second reading of Bill S-16, An Act respect- 
ing The United Church of Canada; 

Mr. Morton, seconded by Mr. Hales, moved, — That the said bill be now 
read a second time. 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 

Accordingly, the said bill was read the second time and referred to the 
Standing Committee on Miscellaneous Private Bills. 



The Order being read for the second reading of Bill S-18, An Act to 
incorporate Greymac Mortgage Corporation; 

Mr. McCleave, seconded by Mr. McDonald (Hamilton South), moved, — 
That the said bill be now read a second time. 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 

Accordingly, the said bill was read the second time and referred to the 
Standing Committee on Banking and Commerce. 



A.D. 1962 TUESDAY, 3rd APRIL 311 

The Order being read for the second reading of Bill S-17, An Act respect- 
ing Canadian Pacific Railway Company and certain wholly owned subsidiaries; 

Mr. Stewart, seconded by Mr. Rapp, moved, — That the said bill be now 
read a second time. 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 

Accordingly, the said bill was read the second time and referred to the 
Standing Committee on Railways, Canals and Telegraph Lines. 



(Public Bills) 

The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-35, An Act to 
amend the Aeronautics Act; 

Mr. Drysdale, seconded by Mr. Howe, moved, — That the said bill be 
now read a second time. 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



The House resumed consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bill C-38, 
An Act to provide for the Reporting of Financial and other Statistics relating 
to the Affairs of Corporations and Labour Unions carrying on Activities in 
Canada, and further progress having been made and reported, the Committee 
obtained leave to consider it again at the next sitting of the House. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Dorion, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Return to an 
Order of the House, dated March 28, 1962, (Notice of Motion for the Produc- 
tion of Papers No. 39) for a copy of all correspondence since January 1, 1958, 
between the Minister of Agriculture and other persons and associations outside 
the government, regarding any operation or plans of the Department of Agri- 
culture dealing with illustration stations or the establishment of any permanent 
experimental station in the Thunder Bay District (more particularly in the 
vicinity of Port Arthur and Fort William). 

By the Examiner of Petitions for Private Bills, — Sixteenth Report, pursu- 
ant to Standing Order 100(2), as follows: 

The Examiner of Petitions for Private Bills has the honour to report that 
the following petitioners for divorce Acts have complied with the requirements 
of Standing Order 96: 

Jeannie Kozak Belchik, wife of Paul Belchik of Montreal, Quebec. 

Shirley Anderson Brimacombe, wife of Irving Brimacombe of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Marie-Paule Jacqueline Lorette Noel Champagne, wife of Joseph Ovila 
Raymond Champagne of Montreal, Quebec. 



312 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

Elizabeth Heather MacNicoll Clayton, wife of Peter Clayton of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Elsie Champ Clifford, wife of Peter Clifford of Montreal, Quebec. 

Jethro Garland Crocker of St. John's, Newfoundland, husband of Mary 
Jane Burry Crocker. 

Thomas Wesley Dixon of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Marie Raymonde 
Camille Corbeil Dixon. 

Paul Andre Clement Robert Dubois of Montreal, Quebec, husband of 
Mireille Suzanne Jacquet Dubois. 

Wilma Goldstein Karls, wife of Ludwig Karls of Cote St. Luc, Quebec. 

Anita Guido Lorencin Knezevic, wife of Zoran Mitar Knezevic of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Molly Slobod Krakower, wife of David Krakower of Montreal, Quebec. 

Lillian Cere Kulczycki, wife of Steve Kulczycki of Montreal, Quebec. 

Frances Sheila Cashmore Madden, wife of Raymond Norman Madden of 
Ville LaSalle, Quebec. 

Leo Rene Maranda of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Renee Haineault 
Maranda. 

Stella Eileen Sassoon Menahem, wife of Abraham Yousef Menahem of 
Montreal, Quebec. 

Marie Antoinette Germaine Corbeil Mouton, wife of Maurice Joseph Mou- 
ton of Montreal, Quebec. 

Edna Anne Stanley MacPherson, wife of George Anthony MacPherson of 
St. Basile le Grand, Quebec. 

Lajos, also known as Louis, Nagy of Lachine, Quebec, husband of Ilonka 
Hajnal Nagy. 

Shirley Millar Neal, wife of George Chesley Neal of St. John's, Newfound- 
land. 

Roland Pilon of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Blanche Robidoux Pilon. 

Doris Elinor Champ Roberts, wife of John Gilbert Roberts of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Fany Ghimpelman Rubenstein, wife of Claude Henri Rubenstein of Mont- 
real, Quebec. 

Molly Cohen Sacks, wife of Melvin Sacks of Montreal, Quebec. 

Kathleen Stokes Sangster, wife of John Sangster of Montreal, Quebec. 

Eugenie Fortin Sansregret, wife of Arthur Sansregret of Montreal, Quebec. 

Willa Keith McLaren Thomson, wife of Garth Patrick Thomson of Mont- 
real, Quebec. 



At 10.03 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until tomorrow at 2.30 o'clock p.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, WEDNESDAY, 4th APRIL, 1962. 



2.30 o'clock p.m. 
Prayers. 

A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Senate had passed the following bills to which the concurrence of this House 
is desired: 

Bill SD-158, An Act for the relief of Guy Bertrand.— Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-159, An Act for the relief of Sylvia Bertha Spires. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-160, An Act for the relief of Geraldine Ludgarde Romer. — Mr. 
McCleave. 

Bill SD-161, An Act for the relief of Sylvia Socaransky. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-162, An Act for the relief of Elizabeth Peck.— Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-163, An Act for the relief of Dorothy Gladys Faucher. — Mr. 
McCleave. 

Bill SD-164, An Act for the relief of Jean Alice Rinder. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-165, An Act for the relief of Maria Lenkei, otherwise known as 
Maria Leichtag. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-166, An Act for the relief of Ines Barbara Levy. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-167, An Act for the relief of Donat Theriault.— Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-168, An Act for the relief of Elizabeth Helen Brown. — Mr. 
McCleave. 

Bill SD-169, An Act for the relief of Stasys Vysniauskas. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-170, An Act for the relief of Joan Jeanette Krautle. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-171, An Act for the relief of Thelma Freeman. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-172, An Act for the relief of Rose Coletta.— Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-173, An Act for the relief of Dora Elfriede Elizabeth Christian 
Kovacs, otherwise known as Dora Elfriede Elizabeth Christian Kovac. — Mr. 
McCleave. 

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Bill SD-174, An Act for the relief of Wilma Gloria Bryson. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-175, An Act for the relief of Donald Edgar Hicks. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-176, An Act for the relief of Ruth Moss.— Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-177, An Act for the relief of Marie-Louise Guay. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-178, An Act for the relief of Marie Marguerite Nicole Fraser. 
— Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-179, An Act for the relief of Marie Raymonde Violetta Dalpe. 
— Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-180, An Act for the relief of Elizabeth Gray. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-181, An Act for the relief of Helene Denise Vien. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-182, An Act for the relief of Anna Elizabeth Strickland. — Mr. 
McCleave. 

Bill SD-183, An Act for the relief of Evelyn Frances Rae. — Mr. McCleave. 
Bill SD-184, An Act for the relief of Vivian Marjery Cohen. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-185, An Act for the relief of Catherine Gerasimos Andrulakis. 
— Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-186, An Act for the relief of Toni Anna Lydia Weiss, otherwise 
known as Toni Anna Lydia Weisz. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-187, An Act for the relief of Kathleen Ryan.— Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-188, An Act for the relief of Verena Elsener. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-189, An Act for the relief of Doris Sibyl Jane Hassall. — Mr. 
McCleave. 

The said bills were deemed to have been read the first time and ordered 
for a second reading at the next sitting of the House pursuant to Standing 
Order 103(2). 

A Message was received from the Senate communicating to this House the 
evidence taken and the papers produced in respect of the above-mentioned 
divorce bills, with a request that the said evidence and papers be returned to 
the Senate. 



By unanimous consent, the motion of Mr. Creaghan, seconded by Mr. 
McFarlane, for leave to introduce a bill intituled: "An Act to amend the 
Public Service Pension Adjustment Act (To include Provident Fund 
Pensioners)", was withdrawn. 



The following Question was made an Order for Return under the provi- 
sions of Standing Order 39(4) as provisionally amended: 

* Question No. 301, by Mr. Benidickson, Order of the House for a Return 
showing: 1. How many applications were received under Competition No. 62-452 
for Pension Medical Advisers (Medical Officer 4) with the Canadian Pension 
Commission? 

2. Who will compose the "Selection Board"? 

3. How many applications were received from veterans with overseas 
service? 

4. How many applicants will be invited to appear before the "Selection 
Board"? 



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By unanimous consent, Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), a Member of the Queen's 
Privy Council, laid before the House, — Declarations made by the Tariff Board 
on certain Appeals under the Customs Act since April 1, 1959, {relative to 
*Question No. 383 answered this day). 



On motion of Mr. Mcllraith, seconded by Mr. Bourget, it was ordered, — 
That there be laid before this House a copy of the report declaring the 
land (being part of Lot 19, Junction Gore, Gloucester Township) surplus as 
referred to in Order for Return, Sessional Paper 194, tabled on the 14th of 
February, 1962. — (Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers No. 35). 



On notion of Mr. Martel, seconded by Mr. Pigeon, it was ordered, — 
That an humble Address be presented to His Excellency praying that he 
will caua to be laid before this House copies of all agreements, contracts, and 
other daluments relating to the construction, under the Roads to Resources 
Program! of the Amos-Mattagami Highway including a copy of the contract 
entered lto by the Province of Quebec or the department concerned and the 
general (ntractor who carried out these works; a list of names and addresses 
of persoi who worked for the general contractor and the provincial depart- 
ment cor ^rned on the construction of the said highway; a list of subcontracts 
given ou by the general contractor in connection with these works and the 
names o: ndividuals or companies having rented equipment, by the hour or 
on a con act basis, for the carrying out of the general contract or the sub- 
contracts i question; a list of suppliers, and the names of those who recom- 
mended em to the general contractor or the subcontractors. — (Notice of 
Motion fi the Production of Papers No. 36). 



On niion of Mr. Benidickson, seconded by Mr. Pickersgill, it was ordered, 
— That atiumble Address be presented to His Excellency praying that he 
will causta be laid before this House a copy of rulings, directives, regula- 
tions, andrescriptions of the Minister of National Revenue, and also Orders 
in Councilsued under authority of sections 39, 40, 40a, and 40b of the Customs 
Act (as aended by Chapter 26, Statutes of Canada 1958); and a copy of 
Ministerisurders issued since April 17, 1961, under the provisions of section 
38 of the ttoms Act for the purposes of fixing duties on imports. — (Notice of 
Motion fo\e Production of Papers No. 38). 



On m(>n of Mr. Regier, seconded by Mr. Winch, it was ordered, — That 
there be ll before this House copies of all tender calls issued to date, bids 
received at result of such tender calls, and correspondence between in- 
dividuals, (knizations, corporations, and the government or any of its agencies, 
having to with property bought for the Department of National Defence 
in the Distt of Coquitlam. — (Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers 
No. 40). 



Notices Motions for the Production of Papers (Nos. 41 and 44) having 
been calledtre allowed to stand at the request of the government. 

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On motion of Mr. Fisher, seconded by Mr. Howard, it was ordered, — 
That an humble Address be presented to His Excellency praying that he 
will cause to be laid before this House a copy of any information in the hands 
of the Chief Electoral Officer regarding the numbers and locations of Indians 
in the Federal Riding of Port Arthur and in particular, any information received 
from the Indian Affairs Branch with a view to assisting the Chief Electoral 
Officer in covering this Riding in the next General Election. — (Notice of Motion 
for the Production of Papers No. 42). 



Mr. Howard, seconded by Mr. Fisher, moved, — That an Order of the House 
do issue for a copy of all directives issued by the Minister of Citizenship and 
Immigration or the Indian Affairs Branch since January 1, 1960, to any 
employee of the said Branch, and in particular to a Mr. Paul Brett, Forester, 
relating to the proposed sale of timber situated on the Tsimpsean Indian 
Reserve No. 2. — (Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers No. 43). 

And the question being put on the said motion, it was negathed on the 
following division: 

Yeas 







Messrs: 




Argue, 


Denis, 


Loiselle, 


Pitman, 


Badanai, 


Deschatelets, 


Macnaughton, 


Racine, 


Batten, 


Eudes, 


Mcllraith, 


Regier, 


Boulanger, 


Fisher, 


McMillan, 


Richard 


Bourget, 


Garland, 


McWilliam, 


(SainMaurice 


Bourque, 


Granger, 


Martin (Timmins), 


Laflee), 


Cardin, 


Habel, 


Meunier, 


Roberg( 


Caron, 


Hellyer, 


Mitchell, 


Robichd, 


Carter, 


Herridge, 


Nixon, 


Tardif, 


Chevrier, 


Howard, 


Pearson, 


Tucker 


Clermont, 


LaMarsh (Miss), 


Peters, 


Winch45. 


Crestohl, 


Lessard, 


Pickersgill, 





Nays 
Messrs: 



Aiken, 


Browne (Vancouver - 


Dinsdale, 


Halpey, 


Aitken (Miss), 


Kingsway), 


Dorion, 


Hamiii 


Allard, 


Brunsden, 


Doucett, 


(Nc-Dame- 


Allmark, 


Cadieu, 


Drouin, 


de-ace), 


Asselin, 


Campbell 


Drysdale, 


Hantte, 


Balcer, 


(Lambton-Kent), 


Dubois, 


Harfcs, 


Baldwin, 


Campbell, 


English, 


Hick 


Barrington, 


(Stormont), 


Fairclough (Mrs.), 


Horr(Acadia), 


Baskin, 


Cardiff, 


Fleming (Eglinton), 


Hon 


Beech, 


Cathers, 


Fleming (Okanagan- 


(TBattlefords) 


Bell (Carleton), 


Chambers, 


Revelstoke), 


Hov 


Bell (Saint John- 


Charlton, 


Flemming (Royal), 


John, 


Albert), 


Chatterton, 


Flynn, 


Jon 


Belzile, 


Churchill, 


Fortin, 


Jorson, 


Best, 


Coates, 


Fulton, 


Ke; 


Bourbonnais, 


Creaghan, 


Gillet, 


Kedy, 


Bourdages, 


Crouse, 


Green, 


Kotnski, 


Broome, 


Danforth, 


Grenier, 


Kurepa, 


Browne (St. John's 


Deschambault, 


Grills, 


Lae, 


West), 


Diefenbaker, 


Hales, 


Lsr, 



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WEDNESDAY, 4th APRIL 




Legere, 


McLennan, 


Nowlan, 


Small, 


Lennard, 


McPhillips, 


Nugent, 


Smith (Calgary 


Letourneau, 


Maloney, 


O'Hurley, 


South), 


Macdonald (Mrs.), 


Mandziuk, 


Pallett, 


Smith (Lincoln), 


Macdonnell, 


Martel, 


Parizeau, 


Smith (Winnipeg 


MacEwan, 


Martini, 


Pascoe, 


North), 


Maclnnis, 


Matthews, 


Phillips, 


Southam, 


MacLean (Queens), 


Montgomery, 


Pigeon, 


Spencer, 


MacLean (Winnipeg 


More, 


Pugh, 


Starr, 


North Centre), 


Morris, 


Rapp, 


Stefanson, 


Macquarrie, 


Morton, 


Regnier, 


Stewart, 


MacRae, 


Muir (Cape 


Ricard, 


Thrasher, 


McBain, 


Breton North 


Richard, 


Tremblay, 


McCleave, 


and Victoria), 


(Kamouraska), 


Valade, 


McDonald 


Muir (Lisgar), 


Rogers, 


Webb, 


(Hamilton South), 


Murphy, 


Rompre, 


Weichel, 


McFarlane, 


Nasserden, 


Simpson, 


White, 


McGee, 


Nesbitt, 


Skoreyko, 


Winkler, 


McGrath, 


Noble, 


Slogan, 


Wratten— 141. 


Mcintosh, 









317 



On motion of Mr. Howard, seconded by Mr. Fisher, it was ordered, — 
That an humble Address be presented to His Excellency praying that 
he will cause to be laid before this House a list of the names of each Indian 
Reserve in British Columbia and the names of each Indian Band to which 
each such reserve belongs which has had a timber survey conducted upon 
it by, or under the direction of, a Mr. Paul Brett, Forester of the Indian Affairs 
Branch, along with the results of each such survey in terms of volume of 
timber by species and the acreage covered, and an indication as to whether 
or not any plans are in the offing for the sale of all or any part of the said 
timber and, if for a part of it, the percentage, by species and acreage, and 
for the details of any such plans. — (Notice of Motion for the Production of 
Papers No. 45). 



On motion of Mr. Howard, seconded by Mr. Fisher, it was ordered, — 
That an humble Address be presented to His Excellency praying that 
he will cause to be laid before this House a copy of all correspondence, tele- 
grams, and other documents exchanged between the government or any member 
thereof, the Indian Affairs Branch or any officer or employee thereof, since 
January 1, 1954, and any other person, corporation, or organization relating 
to all proposed or actual sales of timber situated on the Tsimpsean Indian 
Reserve No. 2. — (Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers No. 46). 



On motion of Mr. Howard, seconded by Mr. Fisher, it was ordered, — 
That an humble Address be presented to His Excellency praying that he 
will cause to be laid before this House a copy of all resolutions, dealing with 
all proposed or actual sales of timber situated on the Tsimpsean Indian Reserve 
No. 2, passed by the Tsimpsean Indian Band or the Tsimpsean Indian Band 
Council. — (Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers No. 47). 



On motion of Mr. Carter, seconded by Mr. Hellyer, it was ordered, — 
That there be laid before this House a copy of the last questionnaire 
used by the Dominion Bureau of Statistics in obtaining a sample for the basis 



318 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

of assessing the number of unemployed in 1956, and a copy of the last ques- 
tionnaire used for the same purpose in 1962. — (Notice of Motion for the Produc- 
tion of Papers No. 48). 



Bill C-38, An Act to provide for the Reporting of Financial and other 
Statistics relating to the Affairs of Corporations and Labour Unions carrying 
on Activities in Canada, was again considered in Committee of the Whole, and 
further progress having been made and reported, the Committee obtained 
leave to consider it again at the next sitting of the House. 



(At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Private Members' Business was called pursuant to 
Standing Order 15(3) as provisionally amended) 

(Notices of Motions) 

Mr. Herridge, seconded by Mr. Regier, moved, — That, in the opinion of 
this House, the government should consider the advisability of the creation of 
a Water Pollution Control Division, composed of representatives of the ten 
provinces, within the framework of the proposed National Resources Council, 
with powers and funds required to institute research programs, collect, collate, 
and analyse water control data, and to coordinate the water pollution control 
objectives for the provinces; in addition, to further the study of water pollution 
control problems of a national character. — (Notice of Motion No. 18). 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following paper having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
was laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Fulton, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Order in Council 
P.C. 1962-371, dated March 22, 1962, amending Order in Council P.C. 1954- 
1976 of December 16, 1954, as amended by substituting a new Rule Number 
53 of the Bankruptcy Rules, pursuant to section 166(2) of the Bankruptcy 
Act, chapter 14, R.S.C., 1952. (English and French). 



At 6.03 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until tomorrow at 2.30 o'clock p.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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OTTAWA, THURSDAY, 5th APRIL, 1962. 

2.30 o'clock p.m. 



Prayers. 



Mr. Howe, from the Standing Committee on Railways, Canals and Tele- 
graph Lines, presented the Seventh Report of the said Committee, which is 
as follows: 

Your Committee has considered Bill S-17, An Act respecting Canadian 
Pacific Railway Company and certain wholly owned subsidiaries, and has 
agreed to report it without amendment. 



Mr. Cathers, from the Standing Committee on Banking and Commerce, 
presented the Third Report of the said Committee, which is as follows: 

Your Committee has considered the following bills and has agreed to 
report them without amendment: 

Bill S-9, An Act to incorporate Brock Acceptance Company. 
Bill S-10, An Act to incorporate Gerand Acceptance Company. 
Bill S-14, An Act respecting Canada Security Assurance Company. 
Bill S-15, An Act respecting The Canadian Indemnity Company and the 
Canadian Fire Insurance Company. 



Mr. Cathers, from the Standing Committee on Banking and Commerce, 
presented the Fourth Report of the said Committee, which is as follows: 

Your Committee has considered Bill S-12, An Act respecting Reliance 
Insurance Company of Canada, and has agreed to report it without amendment. 



320 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

Mr. McCleave, from the Standing Committee on Miscellaneous Private 
Bills, presented the Fourth Report of the said Committee, which is as follows: 

Your Committee has considered Bill S-16, An Act respecting The United 
Church of Canada, and has agreed to report it without amendment. 



By unanimous consent, it was ordered that the following bills, reported 
without amendment earlier this day by the Standing Committees on Railways, 
Canals and Telegraph Lines and on Miscellaneous Private Bills respectively, 
be placed forthwith on the Order Paper for consideration in Committee of the 
Whole later this day: 

Bill S-17, An Act respecting Canadian Pacific Railway Company and 
certain wholly owned subsidiaries. 

Bill S-16, An Act respecting The United Church of Canada. 



The House resolved itself again into Committee of Supply. 

(In the Committee) 
The following resolution was adopted: 

INTERIM SUPPLY 

Resolved, — That a sum not exceeding $674,658,525.84, being the aggregate 
of 

(a) one-sixth of the total of the amounts of the Items set forth in the 
Main Estimates for the fiscal year ending March 31st, 1963, laid before the 
House of Commons at the present session of Parliament, $666,562,659.16; 

(b) one-third of the amounts of Atomic Energy Item 5, Mines and Tech- 
nical Surveys Item 125 and Privy Council Item 25 of the said Estimates, 
$614,700.00; 

(c) one-sixth of the amounts of Legislation Items 40 and 45, Northern 
Affairs and National Resources Item 125 and Public Works Item 190 of the 
said Estimates, $1,302,483.34; 

(d) one- twelfth of the amounts of National Research Council Item 1, 
National Revenue Item 25 and Trade and Commerce Item 20 of the said 
Estimates, $6,178,683.34, 

be granted to Her Majesty on account of the fiscal year ending March 31st, 
1963. 

Resolution to be reported. 



The said resolution was reported and concurred in, and the Committee 
of Supply obtained leave to sit again at the next sitting of the House. 



The House resolved itself again into Committee of Ways and Means. 

(In the Committee) 

The following resolution was adopted: 

Resolved, — That towards making good the Supply granted to Her Majesty 
on account of certain expenses of the public service for the fiscal year ending 



A.D. 1962 THURSDAY, 5th APRIL 321 

March 31st, 1963, the sum of $674,658,525.84 be granted out of the Con- 
solidated Revenue Fund of Canada, as set forth in the resolution concurred 
in this day in the Committee of Supply. < 

Resolution to be reported. 



The said resolution was reported and concurred in, and the Committee 
of Ways and Means obtained leave to sit again at the next sitting of the House. 



Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), seconded by Mr. Churchill, by leave of the 
House, presented Bill C-85, An Act for granting to Her Majesty certain sums 
of money for the public service for the financial year ending the 31st March, 
1963, which was read the first time. 

By unanimous consent, the said bill was read the second time, considered 
in Committee of the Whole, reported without amendment, read the third time 
and passed. 



Bill C-38, An Act to provide for the Reporting of Financial and other 
Statistics relating to the Affairs of Corporations and Labour Unions carrying 
on Activities in Canada, was again considered in Committee of the Whole; 

And the House continuing in Committee; 

At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker took the Chair. 



A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Senate had passed the following bills without amendment: 

Bill C-75, An Act to amend the Canadian Wheat Board Act. 
Bill C-84, An Act to amend the Judges Act. 



(Private Members' Business was called pursuant to Standing Order 15(3) 
as provisionally amended) 

(Private Bills) 

Bill S-17, An Act respecting Canadian Pacific Railway Company and 
certain wholly owned subsidiaries, was considered in Committee of the Whole, 
reported without amendment, read the third time and passed. 



Bill S-16, An Act respecting The United Church of Canada, was con- 
sidered in Committee of the Whole, reported without amendment, read the 
third time and passed. 



A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Senate had passed Bill C-85, An Act for granting to Her Majesty certain sums 
of money for the public service for the financial year ending the 31st March, 
1963. 

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Mr. Speaker communicated to the House the following letter: 

GOVERNMENT HOUSE 
OTTAWA 

5th April, 1962. 

Sir, 

I have the honour to inform you that the Honourable Patrick Kerwin, 
Chief Justice of Canada, in his capacity as Deputy of His Excellency the 
Governor-General, will proceed to the Senate Chamber today, the 5th April 
at 5.45 p.m., for the purpose of giving Royal Assent to certain bills. 

I have the honour to be, 

Sir, 
Your obedient servant, 

A. G. CHERRIER, 
Assistant Secretary to the Governor-General. 
The Honourable, 

The Speaker of the House of Commons. 



(Public Bills) 

The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-40, An Act respect- 
ing the Jurisdiction of the Exchequer Court of Canada; 

Mr. Peters, seconded by Mr. Howard moved, — That the said bill be now 
read a second time. 

And debate arising thereon; 



A Message was received from the Honourable Patrick Kerwin, Chief 
Justice of Canada, in his capacity as Deputy of His Excellency the Governor- 
General, desiring the immediate attendance of the House in the Senate Cham- 
ber. 



Accordingly, Mr. Speaker with the House went to the Senate Chamber. 



And being returned; 

Mr. Speaker reported that, when the House did attend the Honourable 
the Deputy of His Excellency the Governor-General in the Senate Chamber, 
His Honour was pleased to give, in Her Majesty's name, the Royal Assent to 
the following bills: 

An Act to incorporate Evangelical Mennonite Mission Conference. 

An Act respecting The Governing Council of The Salvation Army, 
Canada East, and The Governing Council of The Salvation Army, Canada 
West. 

An Act to incorporate Polaris Pipe Lines. 

An Act to amend the Canadian Wheat Board Act. 

An Act to amend the Judges Act. 



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An Act respecting The United Church of Canada. 

An Act respecting Canadian Pacific Railway Company and certain wholly 
owned subsidiaries. 



And Mr. Speaker informed the House that he had addressed the Honour- 
able the Deputy of His Excellency the Governor-General as follows: 

"May it Please Your Honour: 

"The Commons of Canada have voted Supplies required to enable the 
government to defray certain expenses of the public service. 

"In the name of the Commons, I present to Your Honour the following 
bill: 

'An Act for granting to Her Majesty certain sums of money for the public 
service of the financial year ending the 31st March, 1963'. 

"To which bill I humbly request Your Honour's Assent." 

Whereupon, the Clerk of the Senate, by command of the Deputy of His 
Excellency the Governor- General, did say: 

"In Her Majesty's name, the Honourable the Deputy of His Excellency the 
Governor-General thanks Her Loyal Subjects, accepts their benevolence, and 
assents to this bill." 



The House resumed consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bill 
C-38, An Act to provide for the Reporting of Financial and other Statistics 
relating to the Affairs of Corporations and Labour Unions carrying on Activities 
in Canada, and further progress having been made and reported, the Com- 
mittee obtained leave to consider it again at the next sitting of the House. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following paper having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
was laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Hees, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Report of Eldorado 
Mining and Refining Limited and its subsidiary companies, Eldorado Aviation 
Limited, and Northern Transportation Company Limited, including their 
Accounts and Financial Statements certified by the Auditor General, for the 
year ended December 31, 1961, pursuant to sections 85(3) and 87(3) of the 
Financial Administration Act, chapter 116, R.S.C., 1952. (English and French). 



At 10.02 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until tomorrow at 11.00 o'clock a.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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OTTAWA, FRIDAY, 6th APRIL, 1962. 



11.00 o'clock a.m. 

Prayers. 

By unanimous consent, on motion of Mr. McCleave, seconded by Mr. 
Campbell (Lambton-Kent), it was ordered, — That the petition for a divorce 
Act, filed after February 28, 1962, the last day for filing, and reported upon 
by the Clerk of Petitions in his Thirteenth Report on April 2, 1962, together 
with the said Report, be referred to the Standing Committee on Standing 
Orders for such recommendations as it may deem advisable. 



Mr. Hees, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, laid before the House, 
— Summary of Main Tariff Concessions of interest to Canada arising from 
the United States Negotiations with Countries other than Canada during 
the GATT Tariff Conference. (English and French). 



Bill C-38, An Act to provide for the Reporting of Financial and other 
Statistics relating to the Affairs of Corporations and Labour Unions carrying 
on Activities in Canada, was again considered in Committee of the Whole, 
reported with amendments, considered as amended, and ordered for a third 
reading at the next sitting of the House. 



By unanimous consent, the House reverted to "Motions". 



Whereupon the Minister of Finance [Mr. Fleming (Eglinton)] stated that 
he intended to make the Budget Presentation on Tuesday, April 10, 1962, at 
8.00 o'clock p.m. 



326 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

The House resolved itself again into Committee of Supply. 

(In the Committee) 
The following resolution was adopted: 

FURTHER SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES (4), 1961-62 

NORTHERN AFFAIRS AND NATIONAL RESOURCES 
National Parks Branch 

728 Canadian Wildlife Service — Wildlife Resources Conserva- 
tion and Development, including Administration of 
the Migratory Birds Convention Act — Further amount 
required $ 27,000 00 

Resolution to be reported. 



The said resolution was reported and concurred in, and the Committee 
of Supply obtained leave to sit again at the next sitting of the House. 



(At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Private Members' Business was called pursuant to 
Standing Order 15(3) as provisionally amended) 

(Public Bills) 

By unanimous consent, Bill C-44, An Act to amend the Representation 
Act (Halifax Electoral District), was read the second time, considered in 
Committee of the Whole, reported without amendment, read the third time 
and passed. 



By unanimous consent, Bill C-46, An Act to amend the Representation 
Act, was read the second time, considered in Committee of the Whole, reported 
without amendment, read the third time and passed. 



The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-41, An Act to 
establish the Office of Parliamentary Proctor and to regulate Taxation of Costs; 

Mr. Peters, seconded by Mr. Martin (Timmins), moved, — That the said 
bill be now read a second time. 

STATEMENT BY MR. SPEAKER 

Mr. Speaker: Before calling on the honourable Member or recognizing 
the honourable Member for Timiskaming (Mr. Peters), may I say that I feel 
it to be my duty to draw the attention of the House to the fact that this 
bill has some of the characteristics of a money bill or one that requires a 
resolution. I therefore feel that if the debate proceeds I should at least indicate 
the possible difficulties with a bill of this kind so that it will not be taken 
as a firm precedent for similar legislation. 



A.D. 1962 FRIDAY, 6th APRIL 327 

The bill provides for the appointment of an official who is described as 
Parliamentary Proctor and who would be under the joint direction of the 
Speakers of the two Houses and the Joint Committee of the two Houses. It 
provides for the payment of a salary for this official and for the raising from 
suppliants for parliamentary divorce of fees from which the salary would be 
paid. In this Act no provision is made for these fees going into the Consolidated 
Revenue Fund. However, by general legislation I think they would be required 
to be paid into that fund. It therefore may not be possible to get them out 
again in order to pay the officer without specific legislative authority. As the 
bill stands, it would perhaps come under the heading of a bill which provides 
a service in response to a moderate fee commensurate with the service. On 
the authority of a citation from May's Parliamentary Procedure, the 16th 
edition, page 789, there is some precedent for such legislation without a 
preceding ways and means resolution. However, I am by no means satisfied 
that the bill comes under the exception. With that caution now, however, I 
feel that the debate might proceed as the case is not as clear as it might be. 
I recognize the honourable Member for Timiskaming. 

And debate arising on the motion, — That Bill C-41, An Act to establish 
the Office of Parliamentary Proctor and to regulate Taxation of Costs, be 
now read a second time; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — 
Report on the Operations of the Exchange Fund Account for the year ended 
December 31, 1961, together with the Report of the Auditor General on the 
Audit of the said Account, pursuant to sections 26 and 27(2) respectively of 
the Currency, Mint and Exchange Fund Act, chapter 315, R.S.C., 1952. 

By Mr. Green, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Report entitled: 
"Canada and the United Nations, 1960". (English and French). 



At 6.03 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until Monday next at 2.30 o'clock p.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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No. 58 

JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, MONDAY, 9th APRIL, 1962. 

2.30 o'clock p.m. 



Prayers. 



Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, laid 
before the House, — Budget White Paper 1962-63; Part I — General Economic 
Review of 1961; Part II — Preliminary Review of Government Accounts 1961- 
62. (English and French). 

Ordered, — That the said Budget White Paper be published as an Appendix 
to this day's Votes and Proceedings and also as an Appendix to tomorrow's 
Hansard. 

Notice having been given by the honourable Member for Halifax (Mr. 
McCleave) pursuant to Order made March 26, 1962, it was ordered that the 
Orders for second reading of divorce bills be re-listed on tomorrow's Order 
Paper. 

Mr. Diefenbaker, seconded by Mr. Churchill, by leave of the House, 
introduced Bill C-86, An Act to amend the British North America Act, 1867, 
with respect to the Senate. 

Mr. Diefenbaker, seconded by Mr. Churchill, moved, — That the said 
bill be now read a first time. 

And the question being put on the said motion, it was agreed to on the 
following division: 

Yeas 

Messrs: 

Aitken (Miss), Baldwin, Bell (Carleton), Benidickson, 

Badanai, Baskin, Bell (Saint John- Bourque, 

Balcer, Batten, Albert), Broome, 



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Browne (St. John's 

West), 
Browne (Vancouver - 

Kingsway), 
Brunsden, 
Cadieu, 
Campbell 

(Lambton-Kent), 
Campbell, 

(Stormont), 
Cardiff, 
Caron, 
Chambers, 
Charlton, 
Chatterton, 
Chevrier, 
Churchill, 
Clermont, 
Coates, 
Cooper, 
Creaghan, 
Crouse, 
Danforth, 
Denis, 

Diefenbaker, 
Dorion, 
Doucett, 
Drysdale, 
Dumas, 

Fleming (Eglinton), 
Fleming (Okanagan- 

Revelstoke), 
Flemming (Royal), 
Flynn, 
Forbes, 
Forgie, 



Fournier, 

Godin, 

Grafftey, 

Granger, 

Green, 

Hales, 

Hamilton 

(Notre-Dame- 

de-Grace), 
Hamilton 

(Qu'Appelle), 
Harkness, 
Hees, 
Hellyer, 
Hicks, 
Hodgson, 
Horner 

(The Battlefords), 
Howe, 
Jones, 
Jorgenson, 
Jung, 
Kennedy, 
Kindt, 
Knowles, 
Korchinski, 
Kucherepa, 
LaMarsh (Miss), 
Lambert, 
Leduc, 
Legere, 

Macdonald (Mrs.), 
Macdonnell, 
MacEwan, 
Maclnnis, 
MacLean (Queens), 



MacLean (Winnipeg 

North (Centre), 
MacLellan, 
Macquarrie, 
MacRae, 
McBain, 
McCleave, 
McFarlane, 
McGee, 
McGrath, 
Mcintosh, 
McLennan, 
McMillan, 
McPhillips, 
McWilliam, 
Mandziuk, 
Martin (Essex East), 
Martini, 
Matheson, 
Matthews, 
Michaud, 
Milligan, 
Mitchell, 
Monteith (Perth), 
Montgomery, 
More, 
Morris, 
Morton, 
Muir (Lisgar), 
Nasserden, 
Nesbitt, 
Nixon, 
Nowlan, 
Nugent, 
O'Hurley, 
O'Leary, 



Nays 



Pascoe, 

Paul, 

Payne, 

Pearson, 

Phillips, 

Pickersgill, 

Pigeon, 

Pugh, 

Racine, 

Rapp, 

Regnier, 

Ricard, 

Richard 

(Ottawa East), 
Roberge, 
Robinson, 
Rogers, 
Sevigny, 
Simpson, 
Slogan, 
Smith (Calgary 

South), 
Smith (Lincoln), 
Smith (Winnipeg 

North), 
Starr, 
Stefanson, 
Stewart, 
Tardif, 
Taylor, 
Thomas, 
Thrasher, 
Tucker, 
Villeneuve, 
Walker, 
Webb, 
Webster— 143. 



Messrs: 



Fisher, 
Herridge, 



Winch— 7. 
Accordingly, the said bill was read the first time and ordered for a 



Howard, 

Martin (Timmins), 



Peters, 
Regier, 



second reading at the next sitting of the House. 



The following Questions were made Orders for Returns under the provi- 
sions of Standing Order 39(4) as provisionally amended: 

Question No. 379, by Mr. Nielsen, — Order of the House for a Return show- 
ing: 1. What are the tons and ton miles of freight moved on equipment owned 
by Northern Transportation Company Ltd., and licensed by the Board of 
Transport Commissioners for Canada, during the years 1959, 1960, and 1961, 
tabulated as follows: (a) total from and to all points within the company 
system northbound (b) total from and to all points within the company system 
southbound (c) from Fort Smith, N.W.T., to all points within the Northwest 



A.D. 1962 MONDAY, 9th APRIL 331 

Territories (d) from Hay River, N.W.T., to all points within the Northwest 
Territories (e) from Hay River, N.W.T., and Fort Smith, N.W.T., destined for 
Distant Early Warning station sites (/) from Norman Wells, N.W.T., destined 
for the Distant Early Warning station sites (g) from Norman Wells to all 
other points within the Northwest Territories? 

2. Of the total tonnage and ton miles moved within the Northwest Ter- 
ritories, what percentage of each of these totals was moved for (a) Crown 
Corporations (b) Canadian Government Departments (c) Distant Early Warn- 
ing station sites (d) Consignees other than above? 

3. What gross revenue was earned by N.T.C.L., in each year, 1959, 1960, 
and 1961, from the carriage of goods within the N.W.T., tabulated as follows: 
(a) goods carried for Crown Corporations (b) goods carried for Canadian 
Government Departments (c) goods carried to Distant Early Warning station 
sites (d) goods carried for consignees other than (a), (b), or (c)? 

4. Of the total tonnage provided for carriage by the Northern Trans- 
portation Company Ltd., what tonnage was allocated to Canadian (private 
enterprise) carriers, licensed by the Board of Transport Commissioners for 
Canada, by the N.T.C.L., for movement within the N.W.T., during the years 

1959, 1960, and 1961? 

5. What sources of revenue has Northern Transportation other than by 
the carriage of goods by water? 

6. Other than transportation operations, what business activities are 
carried on by Northern Transportation Company Ltd.? 

7. What is the yearly statement of income and expenditures, in tabulated 
form, in totals and in cents per ton mile, for the years, 1956, 1957, 1958, 1959, 

1960, and 1961, of yearly (a) freight earnings (b) miscellaneous earnings, 
other than freight revenue (c) operating expenses (d) administrative expenses 
(c) depreciation (/) operating profit (g) income tax paid (h) net profit? 



Question No. 406, by Mr. Matheson, — Order of the House for a Return show- 
ing: 1. What medical services are available to the Indians on (a) Halfway 
Reserve (b) Blueberry Reserve (c) Prophet River Reserve (d) Doig River 
Reserve? 

2. What transportation facilities are available to and from the above 
Reserves? 

3. How often and for how long has the Indian Agent at Fort Saint John 
visited each of the above Reserves during the year 1961? 



Question No. 412, by Mr. Robichaud, — Order of the House for a Return 
showing: What was the total amount of legal fees paid by the Veterans Affairs 
Department from April 1, 1957, to March 31, 1962, in the Provinces of New 
Brunswick and Nova Scotia, and what were the names and addresses of the 
recipients of such fees, and the amount received in each case? 

Question No. 413, by Mr. Robichaud, — Order of the House for a Return 
showing: What was the total amount of legal fees paid by the Department of 
Public Works from April 1, 1957, to March 31, 1962, in the provinces of New 
Brunswick and Nova Scotia, and what were the names and addresses of the 
recipients of such fees, and the amount received in each case? 



332 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

Question No. 414, by Mr. Robichaud, — Order of the House for a Return 
showing: What was the total amount of legal fees paid by the Department of 
National Defence from April 1, 1957, to March 31, 1962, in the Provinces of 
New Brunswick and Nova Scotia, and what were the names and addresses of 
the recipients of such fees, and the amount received in each case? 



Question No. 415, by Mr. Robichaud, — Order of the House for a Return 
showing: What was the total amount of legal fees paid by the Department of 
Fisheries from April 1, 1957, to March 31, 1962, in the Provinces of New 
Brunswick and Nova Scotia, and what were the names and addresses of the 
recipients of such fees, and the amount received in each case? 



Question No. 416, by Mr. Robichaud, — Order of the House for a Return 
showing: What was the total amount of legal fees paid by the Department of 
Transport from April 1, 1957, to March 31, 1962, in the Provinces of New 
Brunswick and Nova Scotia, and what were the names and addresses of the 
recipients of such fees, and the amount received in each case? 



Question No. 417, by Mr. Robichaud, — Order of the House for a Return 
showing: What was the total amount of legal fees paid by the Department of 
Northern Affairs and National Resources from April 1, 1957, to March 31, 
1962, in the Provinces of New Brunswick and Nova Scotia, and what were 
the names and addresses of the recipients of such fees, and the amount received 
in each case? 



Question No. 418, by Mr. Robichaud, — Order of the House for a Return 
showing: What was the total amount of legal fees paid by the Department of Na- 
tional Revenue from April 1, 1957, to March 31, 1962, in the Provinces of New 
Brunswick and Nova Scotia, and what were the names and addresses of the 
recipients of such fees, and the amount received in each case? 



Question No. 431, by Mr. Macnaughton, — Order of the House for a Return 
showing: 1. What is the annual wage bill for all hospital employees in Canada 
(a) general hospitals (b) mental hospitals? 

2. What is the total number of employees working in hospitals in Canada 
(a) general hospitals (b) mental hospitals? 

3. What is the number of employees per bed working in hospitals in 
Canada (a) general hospitals (b) mental hospitals? 

4. What was the estimated amount being spent in 1959, 1960, and 1961, 
on the construction of hospitals (a) general hospitals (b) mental hospitals; and, 
how much of this was contributed by the federal government? 

5. How does the average hourly rate for general employees in hospitals 
compare with the average hourly rate in the transportation industry, the 
primary and secondary industries? 

6. What is the comparison of wages paid to (a) nurses (b) social workers 
(c) psychologists (d) nursing assistants (e) cleaners (/) kitchen staff, in 
federal hospitals as compared with community hospitals? 



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333 



(At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Private Members' Business was called pursuant to 
Standing Order 15(3) as provisionally amended) 

(Notices of Motions) 

Mr. Drysdale, seconded by Mr. Broome, moved, — That, in the opinion of 
this House, the federal government should give consideration to the advisability 
of constructing a bridge or tunnel across the North Arm of the Fraser River 
between the City of Vancouver and Sea Island in the Municipality of Richmond. 
(Notice of Motion No. 19). 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



The Order being read for the third reading of Bill C-38, An Act to 
provide for the Reporting of Financial and other Statistics relating to the 
Affairs of Corporations and Labour Unions carrying on Activities in Canada; 

Mr. Churchill for Mr. Fulton, seconded by Mr. Hees, moved, — That the 
said bill be now read a third time and do pass. 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to on the following division: 

Yeas 



Messrs: 



Aitken (Miss), 

Badanai, 

Balcer, 

Baldwin, 

Batten, 

Beech, 

Bell (Carleton), 

Bell (Saint John- 
Albert), 

Bissonnette, 

Boivin, 

Bourbonnais, 

Broome, 

Browne (St. John's 
West), 

Browne (Vancouver- 
Kingsway), 

Brunsden, 

Cadieu, 

Campbell 

(Lambton-Kent), 

Cardiff, 

Carter, 

Charlton, 

Chatterton, 

Chevrier, 

Churchill, 

Clermont, 

Coates, 

Cooper, 

Creaghan, 

Crouse, 



Danforth, 

Diefenbaker, 

Dorion, 

Doucett, 

Drysdale, 

Fleming (Eglinton), 

Fleming (Okanagan- 

Revelstoke), 
Flemming (Royal), 
Flynn, 
Forbes, 
Fortin, 
Fournier, 
Garland, 
Grafftey, 
Granger, 
Green, 
Gundlock, 
Hales, 
Hamilton 

(Notre-Dame- 

de-Grace), 
Harkness, 
Hees, 
Hellyer, 
Hicks, 
Hodgson, 
Horner 

(The Battlefords), 
Howe, 
Jones, 
Jorgenson, 



Kennedy, 

Kindt, 

Knowles, 

Korchinski, 

Kucherepa, 

Lahaye, 

LaMarsh (Miss), 

Lambert, 

Legere, 

Macdonald (Mrs.), 

Macdonnell, 

MacEwan, 

Maclnnis, 

MacLean (Queens), 

MacLean (Winnipeg 

North Centre), 
MacLellan, 
MacRae, 
McBain, 
McCleave, 
McFarlane, 
McGrath, 
Mcintosh, 
Mandziuk, 
Martini, 
Matheson, 
Matthews, 
Michaud, 
Milligan, 
Monteith (Perth), 
Montgomery, 
More, 



Morris, 

Morton, 

Muir (Lisgar), 

Nasserden, 

Nesbitt, 

Nixon, 

Nowlan, 

O'Hurley, 

O'Leary, 

Pascoe, 

Paul, 

Payne, 

Pearson, 

Pickersgill, 

Pigeon, 

Pugh, 

Racine, 

Rapp, 

Regnier, 

Ricard, 

Richard 

(Kamouraska), 
Roberge, 
Robinson, 
Rogers, 
Rompre, 
Sevigny, 
Simpson, 
Slogan, 
Smith (Calgary 

South), 
Smith (Lincoln), 



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Smith (Winnipeg 

North), 
Southam, 
Starr, 



Fisher, 
Herridge, 



Stefanson, 
Stewart, 
Tardif, 
Taylor, 



Thomas, 
Thrasher, 
Tremblay, 
Tucker, 



Nays 
Messrs: 



Villeneuve, 
Walker, 
Webb, 
Webster— 132. 



Howard, 
Accordingly, the said bill was read the third time and passed. 



Martin (Timmins), Peters, 

Winch— 6. 



The House resolved itself into Committee of the Whole to consider a 
certain proposed resolution respecting the establishment of an Electoral Bound- 
aries Commission, and progress having been made and reported, the Com- 
mittee obtained leave to consider it again at the next sitting of the House. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Dorion, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Return to an 
Order of the House, dated February 5, 1962, (* Question No. 31) showing: 1. 
Has the Government of Canada received any representations that it use its 
good offices to ensure that A. V. Roe diversify and expand their steel operations 
in the City of Sydney? 

2. If so, has the government taken any action on this request? 

By Mr. Dorion, — Return to an Address, dated March 7, 1962, to His 
Excellency the Governor-General (Notice of Motion for the Production of 
Papers No. 20) for a copy of all correspondence, since July 1, 1961, between 
the Minister of Transport or any officers of his department and the Premier 
of Nova Scotia or any other person, regarding the railway between Springhill 
Junction and Springhill, Nova Scotia. 

By Mr. Dorion, — Return to an Order of the House, dated March 21, 1962, 
(Question No. 296) showing: 1. How many applications were received for 
summer employment under Competition 62-50 of the Civil Service Commission? 

2. Who were the successful candidates, and in which Electoral Districts 
are each resident? 

3. Were any representations made on behalf of any of the successful 
candidates; and, if so, by whom? 

4. What were the academic qualifications of each of the successful 
candidates? 

By Mr. Dorion, — Return to an Order of the House, dated April 4, 1962, 
(Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers No. 48) for a copy of the last 
questionnaire used by the Dominion Bureau of Statistics in obtaining a sample 
for the basis of assessing the number of unemployed in 1956, and a copy of 
the last questionnaire used for the same purpose in 1962. 



A.D. 1962 MONDAY, 9th APRIL 335 

By Mr. Dorion, — Return to an Order of the House, dated April 4, 1962, 
(^Question No. 301) showing: 1. How many applications were received under 
Competition No. 62-452 for Pension Medical Advisers (Medical Officer 4) with 
the Canadian Pension Commission? 

2. Who will compose the "Selection Board"? 

3. How many applications were received from veterans with overseas 
service? 

4. How many applicants will be invited to appear before the "Selection 
Board"? 

By Mr. Dorion, — Return to an Address, dated April 4, 1962, to His Ex- 
cellency the Governor-General (Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers 
No. 42) for a copy of any information in the hands of the Chief Electoral 
Officer regarding the numbers and locations of Indians in the Federal Riding of 
Port Arthur and in particular, any information received from the Indian 
Affairs Branch with a view to assisting the Chief Electoral Officer in covering 
this Riding in the next General Election. 

By Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — 
Report on the Administration of the Members of Parliament Retiring Allow- 
ances Act for the year ended March 31, 1962, pursuant to section 18 of the 
said Act, chapter 329, R.S.C., 1952. (English and French). 



At 10.15 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until tomorrow at 2.30 o'clock p.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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OTTAWA, TUESDAY, 10th APRIL, 1962. 



2.30 o'clock p.m. 
Prayers. 

Miss Aitken, from the Standing Committee on Standing Orders, presented 
the First Report of the said Committee, which was read as follows: 

Your Committee recommends that its quorum be reduced from 8 to 5 
Members and that Standing Order 65(1) (g) be suspended in relation thereto. 

By unanimous consent, on motion of Miss Aitken, seconded by Mr. Hales, 
the said Report was concurred in. 



Mr. Hamilton (Qu'Appelle), a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, laid 
before the House — International Wheat Agreement, 1962, as adopted at the 
Final Plenary Session of the United Nations Wheat Conference held at Geneva 
on March 10, 1962. (English and French). 

By unanimous consent, it was ordered that the said Agreement be printed 
as an Appendix to tomorrow's Hansard. 



The House resumed consideration in Committee of the Whole of a certain 
proposed resolution respecting the establishment of an Electoral Boundaries 
Commission, and further progress having been made and reported, the Com- 
mittee obtained leave to consider it again at the next sitting of the House. 



By unanimous consent, Mr. Speaker presented the First Report of the 
Special Committee appointed to consider with the Speaker the Procedure of 
this House, which is as follows: 



338 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

The Special Committee appointed to consider with Mr. Speaker the 
Procedure of this House begs leave to present the following as a First Report: 

Your Committee unanimously recommends that the standing orders and 
procedure of the House be amended, as follows: 

PART I 

PROPOSAL 1 
That Standing Order 15 be repealed and the following substituted therefor: 

BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE 

Prayers. 15 (j) M r Speaker shall read prayers every day at the meet- 

ing of the House before any business is entered upon. 

Routine (2) The ordinary daily routine of business in the House shall 

business. fee ag foUows . 

Presenting reports by standing and special committees. 

Motions. 

Introduction of bills. 

First readings of Senate public bills. 

Government notices of motions. 
Order of (3) Except as provided in sections (4) and (5) hereunder, the 

day-b^day or der °* business for the consideration of the House, day-by-day, 
after the daily routine, shall be as follows: 

(Monday) 

Questions. 
Government orders. 
(From five to six o'clock p.m. — Private Members' Business) 
Notices of motions. 

(Tuesday) 

Government orders. 
Questions. 
(From five to six o'clock p.m. — Private Members' Business) 
Private bills. 
Public bills. 

(Wednesday) 

Questions. 

Notices of motions for the production of papers. 
Government orders. 
(From five to six o'clock p.m. — Private Members' Business) 
Notices of motions. 
Public bills. 

(Thursday) 

Government orders. 
Questions. 
(From five to six o'clock p.m. — Private Members' Business) 
A. On the first and each alternate Thursday thereafter: 
Notices of motions (papers). 
Private bills. 
Public bills. 



A.D. 1962 TUESDAY, 10th APRIL 339 

B. On the second and each alternate Thursday thereafter: 
Private bills. 

Notices of motions (papers). . 
Public bills. 

(Friday) 

Government orders. 
Questions. 
(From five to six o'clock p.m. — Private Members' Business) 
Public bills. 
Private bills. 

(4) When a debate on a motion "That Mr. Speaker do now leave Private 
the Chair" for the House to go into Committee of Supply is in Business 
progress at 5.00 o'clock p.m. on either a Monday or a Tuesday, the deferred, 
order for Private Members' Business on that day shall be suspended. 

(5) After the order for Private Members' Business on Mondays, J?" 1 ^ 6 , 
Tuesdays and Wednesdays has been reached for a total of forty hour 
times in a session, the provisions in section (3) of this Standing lapses. 
Order which provide for such business on those days shall lapse. 

Explanatory Notes: 

The purpose of this proposal is to provide forty one-hour periods on 
Mondays, Tuesdays and Wednesdays for the business of Private Members in 
lieu of the six Mondays and two Thursdays formerly allotted for the con- 
sideration of such business. This procedure is now in effect provisionally. 

This proposal also contains a provision to permit debate on a "Motion for 
the production of papers" when such is desired. (See also Standing Order 47 
to be amended). 

PROPOSAL 2 

That Standing Order 16 be repealed and the following substituted there- 
for: 

Suspension of Private Members' Business for Address and Supply Debates 
16. The proceedings on Private Members' Business, except as Jl rivJ j* e , 
provided in Standing Orders 15(4) and 38, shall not be suspended hours er 
by virtue of the operation of the provisions of standing orders relat- suspended 
ing to the adjournment of the House for the purpose of discussing casTs^ 3 * 11 
a definite matter of urgent public importance or to the allocation 
of time to certain debates. 

Explanatory Notes: 

This amendment is consequential to the provisions in Standing Order 
15(3) which eliminates Private Members' days and provides for hourly periods 
on certain Mondays, Tuesdays and Wednesdays for Private Members' Business. 

This procedure is now in effect provisionally. 

PROPOSAL 3 
That Standing Order 31 be repealed and the following substituted therefor: 

Speeches — Time limits in certain cases 
31.(1) Unless otherwise provided in these Standing Orders, when Speeches 

-«. — « .. , ^., . •»«■ i i ., t-I. -r/t-'j. limited to 

Mr. Speaker is in the Chair, no Member, except the Prime Minister 40 minutes. 
and the Leader of the Opposition, or a Minister moving a govern- 



340 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

ment order and the Member speaking in reply immediately after 
such Minister, or a Member making a motion of "no confidence" in 
the government and a Minister replying thereto, shall speak for 
more than forty minutes at a time in any debate. 
Speeches (2) When the business of Private Members is being considered 

20^niriutes. between five and six o'clock p.m., no Member shall speak for more 
than twenty minutes at a time. 

Explanatory Notes: 

The addition of the words, "Unless otherwise provided in these Standing 
Orders," to paragraph 1 is consequential to other provisions in this report. 

Paragraph 2 of this order is now in effect provisionally. 

PROPOSAL 4 
That Standing Order 38 be repealed and the following substituted therefor: 

ADDRESS IN REPLY TO HIS EXCELLENCY'S SPEECH 

Address 38. (i) The proceedings on the order of the day for resuming 

debate on the motion for an address in reply to His Excellency's 

speech and on any amendments proposed thereto shall not exceed 

eight sitting days. 

Appointed (2) Any day or days to be appointed for the consideration of 

days. -j^g sa id order shall be announced from time to time by a Minister 

of the Crown and on any such day or days this order shall have 

Precedence, precedence of all other business except the ordinary daily routine 

of business. 
Sub- (3) On the second of the said days, if a subamendment be 

d^posedo" 1 under consideration at fifteen minutes before the ordinary time of 
daily adjournment, Mr. Speaker shall interrupt the proceedings and 
forthwith put the question on the said subamendment. 
Amendment; (4) On the fourth and sixth of the said days, if any amend- 

ispose o . men t De under consideration at thirty minutes before the ordinary 
time of daily adjournment, Mr. Speaker shall interrupt the proceed- 
ings and forthwith put the question on any amendment or amend- 
ments then before the House. 
Debate (5) On the eighth of the said days, at fifteen minutes before 

concluded, ^ e ordinary time of daily adjournment, unless the said debate be 
previously concluded, Mr. Speaker shall interrupt the proceedings 
and forthwith put every question necessary to dispose of the main 
motion. 
Amendment (6) The motion for an address in reply shall not be subject to 

precluded, amendment on or after the seventh day of the said debate. 
Time limits (7) No Member, except the Prime Minister and the Leader of 

on speeches. tne Opposition, shall speak for more than thirty minutes at a time 
in the said debate; provided that forty minutes shall be allowed to 
the mover of either an amendment or of a subamendment. 

Explanatory Notes: 

This proposal will enact the provisional procedure with respect to the 
Address Debate which was in effect during this and the previous sessions. 

Its purpose is to shorten the Address Debate by two days and to limit 
speeches to thirty minutes during this debate, except as otherwise provided 
for in section (7). Provision is made for votes to be taken on the second, 
fourth, sixth, and eighth days of this debate. No amendment will be permitted 
on or after the seventh day of this debate. 



A.D. 1962 TUESDAY, 10th APRIL 341 

PROPOSAL 5 
That Standing Order 47 be repealed and the following substituted therefor: 

NOTICES OF MOTIONS FOR THE PRODUCTION OF PAPERS 

47. Notices of motions for the production of papers shall be Production 
placed on the order paper under the heading "Notices of motions of papers - 
for the production of papers". All such notices, when called, shall 
be forthwith disposed of; but if on any such motion a debate be 
desired by the Member proposing it or by a Minister of the Crown, Motions 
the motion will be transferred by the Clerk to the order of "Notices m * d< : 
of motions (papers)". 

Explanatory Notes: 

This proposal, in conjunction with the proposal to amend Standing Order 
15(3) will provide a method whereby motions for papers may be debated 
between five and six o'clock p.m. on certain Thursdays if a request be made 
to have any motion transferred for that purpose. 

This procedure is now in effect provisionally. 

PROPOSAL 6 

That Standing Order 56(3) be repealed and the following substituted 
therefor: 

56. (3) A Minister of the Crown may request at a prior sitting Appointed 
that any Monday after an Address has been agreed to, in answer to 
His Excellency's speech, be appointed for the consideration of the 
order for Supply and, thereupon, the said Monday shall be deemed 
to have been so appointed. 

Explanatory Notes: 

Standing Order 56(3) now reads as follows: 

56. (3) Notwithstanding the provisions of standing order 15(3), A , ppointed 
a Minister of the Crown may request at a prior sitting that any 
Monday after an Address has been agreed to, in answer to His 
Excellency's speech, be appointed for the consideration of the order 
for Supply and, thereupon, the said Monday shall be deemed to have 
been so appointed. 

The effect of this proposal is to strike out the words "Notwithstanding the 
provisions of standing order 15(3)," in standing order 56(3), which phrase is 
redundant upon the enactment of the proposed new standing order 15(3). 

PROPOSAL 7 
That Standing Order 58 be repealed and the following substituted therefor: 

BUDGET DEBATE 

Committee of Ways and Means 

58. (1) When an order of the day is called for the House to go g^^ 1 * 
into Committee of Ways and Means, Mr. Speaker shall leave the ways and 
Chair without question put, but the provisions of this section shall means, 
not apply when the said order is called for the purpose of enabling 
a Minister of the Crown to make the budget presentation. 



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Budget 
debate. 



First order 
called. 



Question 
put on sub- 
amendment. 



Question 
put on 
amendment. 



House goes 
into ways 
and means. 



Time limits 
on speeches. 



(2) The proceedings on the order of the day for resuming 
debate on the motion "That Mr. Speaker do now leave the Chair" 
for the House to resolve itself into Committee of Ways and Means 
(Budget) and on any amendments proposed thereto shall not 
exceed six sitting days. 

(3) When the order for resuming the said debate is called, it 
must stand as the first order of the day and, unless it be disposed of, 
no other government order shall be considered in the same sitting. 

(4) On the second of the said days, if a subamendment be under 
consideration at fifteen minutes before the expiry of the time 
provided for Government Business in such sitting, Mr. Speaker shall 
interrupt the proceedings and forthwith put the question on the said 
subamendment. 

(5) On the fourth of the said days, if an amendment be under 
consideration at fifteen minutes before the expiry of the time 
provided for Government Business in such sittings, Mr. Speaker 
shall interrupt the proceedings and forthwith put the question on 
the said amendment. 

(6) On the sixth of the said days, at fifteen minutes before the 
expiry of the time provided for Government Business in such 
sitting, unless the debate be previously concluded, Mr. Speaker 
shall interrupt the proceedings and forthwith put the question on 
the main motion; and, if it be decided in the affirmative, the House 
shall forthwith resolve itself into Committee of Ways and Means. 

(7) No Member, except the Minister of Finance, the Member 
speaking on behalf of the Opposition, the Prime Minister and the 
Leader of the Opposition, shall speak for more than thirty minutes 
at a time in the budget debate; provided that forty minutes shall 
be allowed to the mover of a subamendment. 



Explanatory Notes: 

This proposal will enact the provisional procedure in effect during the past 
and current sessions with respect to the Budget debate. 

The purpose of this proposal is to shorten the Budget debate by two days 
and to limit speeches to thirty minutes, except as otherwise provided for in 
section (7) above. The stages at which votes will be taken have been advanced 
so that the subamendment will be disposed of on the second day and the 
amendment on the fourth day of the said debate. 

PROPOSAL 8 

That Standing Order 26(1) be repealed and the following substituted 
therefor: 

Leave to move adjournment of the House 

for J ° U e r ciS ent 26 -( 1 ) Leave 'to make a motion for the adjournment of the 

purposes. House when made for the purpose of discussing a definite matter 

of urgent public importance must be asked for after "Questions" 

on Mondays and Wednesdays and on other days after the ordinary 

daily routine of business, Standing Order 15(2), has been concluded. 



Explanatory Notes: 

The purpose of this proposal is to ensure the calling of "Questions" on 
Mondays and Wednesdays, and is consequential to proposal No. 9 concerning 
"Questions". 



A.D. 1962 TUESDAY, 10th APRIL 343 

PROPOSAL 9 

That Standing Order 39 be repealed and the following substituted therefor: 

Questions 

39.(1) Questions may be placed on the Order Paper seeking Questions 
information from Ministers of the Crown relating to public affairs; Ministers, 
and from other Members, relating to any bill, motion, or other public 
matter connected with the business of the House, in which such 
Members may be concerned; but in putting any such question or 
in replying to the same no argument or opinion is to be offered, nor 
any facts stated, except so far as may be necessary to explain the 
same; and in answering any such question the matter to which the 
same refers shall not be debated. 

(2) (a) Any Member who requires an oral answer to his ques- Oral 
tion may distinguish it by an asterisk, but no Member shall have * nsw t er ' 
more than three such questions at a time on the daily order paper. Three. 

(b) If a Member does not distinguish his question by an as- p r i n t e d 
terisk, the Minister to whom the question is addressed hands the answer, 
answer to the Clerk of the House who causes it to be printed in 
the Official Reports of the Debates. 

(3) If, in the opinion of Mr. Speaker, a question on the Order Question 
Paper put to a Minister of the Crown is of such a nature as to re- ^ notice 
quire a lengthy reply, he may, upon the request of the Government, of motion, 
direct the same to stand as a notice of motion, and to be transferred 

to its proper place as such upon the order paper, the Clerk of the 
House being authorized to amend the same as to matters of form. 

(4) If a question is of such a nature that in the opinion of the Question 
Minister who is to furnish the reply, such reply should be in the ^f r e e JJ^ r 
form of a return, and the Minister states that he has no objection to 

laying such return upon the Table of the House, his statement shall, 
unless otherwise ordered by the House, be deemed an Order of 
the House to that effect and the same shall be entered in the Votes 
and Proceedings as such. 

Explanatory Notes: 

The purpose of this proposal is to enact the provisional procedure concern- 
ing questions in effect during the current session, with an additional proviso 
whereby questions seeking oral replies are limited to three at a time in the 
name of any Member. 

PART II— OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS 

That the Clerk of the House is hereby authorized to edit the Standing 
Orders in regard to matters of form, numbering, etc., and to reprint the same 
in such number as he may deem to be necessary; and that the provisions of 
Standing Order 66 be suspended in relation thereto. 



(At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Private Members' Business was called pursuant to 
Standing Order 15(3) as provisionally amended) 

(Private Bills) 

Mr. Smith (Winnipeg North), seconded by Mr. Southam, moved, — That 
Mr. Speaker do now leave the Chair for the House to go into Committee of the 



344 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

Whole on Private Bills, being Orders numbered 1 to 5 inclusive on today's 
Order Paper, {pursuant to Standing Order 54(1)]; which was agreed to. 



Bill S-9, An Act to incorporate Brock Acceptance Company, was con- 
sidered in Committee of the Whole, and progress having been made and 
reported, the Committee obtained leave to consider it again at the next sitting 
of the House. 



The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



The Order being read for the House to resolve itself into Committee of 
Ways and Means (Budget); 

Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), seconded by Mr. Churchill, moved, — That Mr. 
Speaker do now leave the Chair. 

And debate arising thereon, the said debate was, on motion of Mr. 
Pearson, adjourned. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following paper having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
was laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Dorion, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Return to an 
Order of the House, dated April 2, 1962, (Question No. 248) showing: 1. What 
support, if any, did the federal government give through any of its depart- 
ments, corporations, etc., to the Canadian Conference of the Arts (1961)? 

2. What form did this support or aid take? 

3. What civil servants or officials attended the Conference at government 
expense? 



At ten o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until tomorrow at 2.30 o'clock p.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



A.D. 1962 WEDNESDAY, 11th APRIL 345 

No. 60 

JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, WEDNESDAY, 11th APRIL, 1962. 



2.30 o'clock p.m. 
Prayers. 

Mr. Diefenbaker, seconded by Mr. Churchill, moved, — That the House do 
go into Committee of the Whole at its next sitting to consider the following 
proposed resolution which has been recommended to the House by His 
Excellency: — 

That it is expedient to introduce a measure to provide for the payment 
out of the Consolidated Revenue Fund, to any person who was a member of 
the Senate on April 6th, 1962, but who ceases to be a member at the age of 
seventy-five years or more by reason of an amendment to Section 29 of the 
British North America Act, 1867, of a lifetime retirement annuity equivalent 
to three-quarters of the amount per annum of the sessional allowance he was 
receiving under the Senate and House of Commons Act at the time when he 
ceased to be a member. 

Resolved, — That the House do go into Committee of the Whole at its next 
sitting to consider the said proposed resolution. 



The following Question was made an Order for Return under the provi- 
sions of Standing Order 39(4) as provisionally amended: 

^Question No. 434, by Mr. Morris, — Order of the House for a Return 
showing: What was the total dollar value of exports of Canadian produce 
to all overseas countries via the United States in each of the years 1952 to 
1959 inclusive? 



On motion of Mr. Martin (Essex East), seconded by Mr. Mcllraith, it was 
ordered, — That an humble Address be presented to His Excellency praying 

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that he will cause to be laid before this House a copy of all correspondence and 
memoranda between the Department of Justice and any other government 
department or agency, provincial government or provincial government agency, 
or any other person, regarding the release of John Pap ilia. — (Notice of Motion 
for the Production of Papers No. 41). 



Mr. Howard, seconded by Mr. Peters, moved, — That an Order of the House 
do issue for a copy of all correspondence, telegrams, and other documents, 
other than directives, exchanged between the Minister of Citizenship and 
Immigration or the Indian Affairs Branch and any employee or officer of the 
Indian Affairs Branch since January 1, 1954, relating to all proposed or actual 
sales of timber situated on the Tsimpsean Indian Reserve No. 2. — (Notice of 
Motion for the Production of Papers No. 44). 

And the question being put on the said motion, it was negatived on the 
following division: 

Yeas 



Herridge, 
Howard, 



Aiken, 

Aitken (Miss), 

Allard, 

Allmark, 

Badanai, 

Balcer, 

Baldwin, 

Barrington, 

Baskin, 

Batten, 

Beech, 

Bell (Carleton), 

Bell (Saint John- 
Albert), 

Belzile, 

Best, 

Bigg, 

Bissonnette, 

Boivin, 

Boulanger, 

Bourbonnais, 

Bourget, 

Bourque, 

Brassard 
(Lapointe), 

Broome, 

Browne (St. John's 
West), 

Browne (Vancouver- 
Kings way), 

Bruchesi, 

Brunsden, 

Campbell 

(Lambton-Kent), 



Messrs: 
Martin (Timmins), Peters, 

Nays 



Messrs: 



Cardiff, 

Cardin, 

Caron, 

Carter, 

Casselman (Mrs.), 

Cathers, 

Chambers, 

Charlton, 

Chatterton, 

Chevrier, 

Churchill, 

Clermont, 

Coates, 

Cooper, 

Creaghan, 

Crestohl, 

Crouse, 

Danforth, 

Denis, 

Deschambault, 

Diefenbaker, 

Dorion, 

Doucett, 

Drouin, 

Drysdale, 

Dubois, 

Dupuis, 

Eudes, 

Fairclough (Mrs.), 

Fairfield, 

Fleming (Eglinton), 

Flemming (Royal), 

Flynn, 

Forbes, 



Forgie, 

Fortin, 

Fournier, 

Frechette, 

Garland, 

Graff tey, 

Granger, 

Green, 

Grenier, 

Grills, 

Gundlock, 

Hales, 

Halpenny, 

Hamilton 

(Qu'Appelle), 
Harkness, 
Hees, 
Hicks, 
Hodgson, 
Horner 

(The Battlefords), 
Howe, 
Johnson, 
Jones, 
Kennedy, 
Kindt, 
Knowles, 
Korchinski, 
Kucherepa, 
Lahaye, 

LaMarsh (Miss), 
Lambert, 
Latour, 
Leduc, 



Regier, 
Winch— 6. 



Legere, 

Lennard, 

Lessard, 

L6tourneau, 

Macdonald (Mrs.), 

Macdonnell, 

MacEwan, 

Maclnnis, 

MacLean (Queens), 

MacLellan, 

Macnaughton, 

MacRae, 

McBain, 

McCleave, 

McDonald 

(Hamilton South), 
McFarlane, 
McGee, 
Mcllraith, 
Mcintosh, 
McLennan, 
McMillan, 
McPhillips, 
McWilliam, 
Mandziuk, 
Martel, 

Martin (Essex East), 
Matheson, 
Matthews, 
Meunier, 
Michaud, 
Milligan, 
Monteith (Perth), 
Monteith (Verdun), 



A.D. 1962 


WEDNESDi 


^Y, 11th APRIL 




Montgomery, 


O'Leary, 


Robichaud, 


Starr, 


More, 


Pallett, 


Robinson, 


Stearns, 


Morissette, 


Parizeau, 


Rogers, 


Stefanson, 


Morris, 


Pascoe, 


Rompre, 


Stewart, 


Morton, 


Paul, 


Rouleau, 


Tardif, 


Muir (Cape 


Pearson, 


Rynard, 


Taylor, 


Breton North 


Phillips, 


Simpson, 


Thomas, 


and Victoria), 


Pigeon, 


Skoreyko, 


Thompson, 


Muir (Lisgar), 


Rapp, 


Slogan, 


Thrasher, 


Murphy, 


Regnier, 


Small, 


Tremblay, 


Nasserden, 


Ricard, 


Smith (Calgary 


Tucker, 


Nesbitt, 


Richard 


South), 


Valade, 


Nixon, 


(Kamouraska), 


Smith (Simcoe 


Walker, 


Noble, 


Richard 


North), 


Webb, 


Nowlan, 


(Saint-Maurice- 


Smith 


White, 


Nugent, 


Lafleche), 


(Winnipeg North), 


Winkler, 


O'Hurley, 


Roberge, 


Southam, 


Wratten— 188 



347 



Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers (No. 50) having been 
called was allowed to stand at the request of the government. 



Bill C-80, An Act to amend the Veterans' Land Act, was considered in 
Committee of the Whole, reported without amendment, read the third time 
and passed. 



The Order being read for the second reading of Bill S-19, An Act to 
amend the Canada Grain Act; 

Mr. Churchill for Mr. Hamilton (Qu'Appelle), seconded by Mr. Browne 
(St. John's West), moved, — That the said bill be now read a second time. 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 

Accordingly, the said bill was read the second time, considered in Com- 
mittee of the Whole, reported without amendment, and ordered for a third 
reading at the next sitting of the House. 



(At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Private Members' Business was called pursuant to 
Standing Order 15(3) as provisionally amended) 

(Notices of Motions) 

Mr. Martin (Timmins), seconded by Mr. Peters, moved, — That, in the 
opinion of this House, the government should give consideration to the advis- 
ability of introducing a comprehensive system of national health insurance, 
more particularly to give consideration to the advisability of: (a) amending 
the Hospital Insurance and Diagnostic Services Act to provide benefits on 
behalf of patients in tuberculosis sanitaria and patients confined to mental 
institutions; (b) introducing legislation to provide medical, dental and optical 
insurance. — (Notice of Motion No. 20). 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 

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348 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Baleer, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Order in Council 
P.C. 1962-480, dated April 5, 1962, withdrawing from entrustment to the Cana- 
dian National Railway Company a certain parcel of Canadian Government 
Railways' land in the City of St. John's, Newfoundland, required by the 
Department of Public Works in connection with harbour development, pursuant 
to section 19 of the Canadian National Railways Act, chapter 29, Statutes of 
Canada, 1955. 

By Mr. Walker, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, by command of 
His Excellency the Governor-General, — Report of the Department of Public 
Works for the year ended March 31, 1961, pursuant to section 34 of the Public 
Works Act, chapter 228, R.S.C., 1952. (French). 

By Mr. Walker, by command of His Excellency the Governor-General, — 
Report of Proceedings under the Trans-Canada Highway Act for the year 
ended March 31, 1961, pursuant to section 9 of the said Act, chapter 269, R.S.C., 
1952. 



At 6.03 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until tomorrow at 2.30 o'clock p.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



A.D. 1962 THURSDAY, 12th APRIL 349 

No. 61 

JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, THURSDAY, 12th APRIL, 1962. 

2.30 o'clock p.m. 



Prayers. 



Mr. Cathers, from the Standing Committee on Banking and Commerce, 
presented the Fifth Report of the said Committee, which is as follows: 

Your Committee has considered Bill S-18, An Act to incorporate Greymac 
Mortgage Corporation and has agreed to report it without amendment. 



Miss Aitken, from the Standing Committee on Standing Orders presented 
the Second Report of the said Committee, which was read as follows: 

Pursuant to its Order of Reference of April 6, 1962, the Committee has 
considered the following petition for a Private Bill filed after the time 
specified in Standing Order 93, and the report of the Clerk of Petitions of 
April 2, 1962. 

Petition of Ginette Noela Melanie Hugon SOULIER — Divorce 

Counsel for the Petitioner stated that the petition had been forwarded to 
him by the Montreal Solicitor in a letter dated February 27, 1962. He claimed 
that ordinarily one would expect such mail to be received in Ottawa on the 
following day in order that it might be deposited in the House of Commons 
on February 28th, the last day for filing petitions as provided under Standing 
Order 93. However, as delivery of the petition to his office was delayed, it was 
not possible for him to file the petition until March 1, 1962. 

Counsel requested that the petition be received, but that the Petitioner, 
who has a very limited income, be not assessed charges because of the late 
filing. 



350 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

Respecting the abovementioned petition, your Committee recommends 
as follows: 

(a) That Standing Order 93 be suspended and the petition be received; 

(b) That Standing Order 94(3) (a) and (c) be suspended, in order to 
waive all charges. 

The petition, together with the Report of the Clerk of Petitions related 
thereto, is returned herewith. 

By unanimous consent, on motion of Miss Aitken, seconded by Mr. Hales, 
the said Report was concurred in. 



Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, laid 
before the House, — Report by the Tariff Board, dated January 17, 1962, relative 
to the Investigation ordered by the Minister of Finance respecting Engineers' 
and Architects' Plans, Drawings and Blue Prints — Reference No. 128, (English 
and French), together with a copy of the transcript of the evidence presented 
at public hearings, pursuant to section 6 of the Tariff Board Act, chapter 261, 
R.S.C., 1952. 



On motion of Mr. Churchill, seconded by Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), the 
First Report of the Special Committee appointed to consider with Mr. Speaker 
the Procedure of this House, presented Tuesday, April 10, 1962, was con- 
curred in. 



The Order being read for the third reading of Bill S-19, An Act to amend 
the Canada Grain Act; 

Mr. Hamilton (Qu'Appelle), seconded by Mr. Churchill, moved, — That 
the said bill be now read a third time and do pass. 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 

Accordingly, the said bill was read the third time and passed. 



The House resolved itself again into Committee of Supply; 

And the House continuing in Committee; 

Objection being taken in Committee to the decision of the Chairman (Mr. 
Martineau) on a point of order, and an appeal being made to the House; 

Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair, and the Chairman of the Committee made 
the following Report: — 

"In Committee of Supply, when Vote No. 730 of the Further Supplementary 
Estimates (4), 1961-62, was called for consideration, a point of order was 
raised to the effect that, as Vote No. 729 was under consideration at the 
termination of the Committee's last sitting, it was irregular to proceed with 
Vote No. 730. 

"I ruled that, in accordance with section (2) of Standing Order 18 and 
May's 16th Edition, page 731, the government could call its business in such 
order as it deemed expedient without regard to any proceeding in a prior 
sitting of the Committee. 



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THURSDAY, 12th APRIL 



351 



"Whereupon the honourable Member for Kootenay West (Mr. Herridge) 
appealed to the House from the decision of the Chair." 

The question being put by Mr. Speaker: "Shall the ruling of the Chairman 
be confirmed?" — It was decided in the affirmative on the following division: 

Yeas 



Messrs: 



Aiken, 

Aitken (Miss), 

Allard, 

Allmark, 

Asselin, 

Balcer, 

Baldwin, 

Barrington, 

Baskin, 

Beech, 

Bell (Carleton), 

Bell (Saint John- 
Albert), 

Belzile, 

Bissonnette, 

Bourbonnais, 

Broome, 

Browne (St. John's 
West), 

Browne (Vancouver- 
Kings way), 

Brunsden, 

Campbell 

(Lambton-Kent), 

Campbell, 
(Stormont), 

Cardiff, 

Cathers, 

Chambers, 

Charlton, 

Coates, 

Cooper, 

Creaghan, 

Crouse, 

Danforth, 

Diefenbaker, 



Dorion, 

Doucett, 

Drysdale, 

Dubois, 

Fairclough (Mrs.), 

Fleming (Eglinton), 

Flemming (Royal), 

Flynn, 

Forbes, 

Fournier, 

Frechette, 

Gillet, 

Grenier, 

Grills, 

Gundlock, 

Hales, 

Halpenny, 

Hamilton 

(Notre-Dame- 

de-Grace), 
Hamilton 

(Qu'Appelle), 
Harkness, 
Hicks, 
Hodgson, 
Horner 

(The Battlef ords), 
Howe, 
Johnson, 
Jones, 
Keays, 
Kennedy, 
Kindt, 
Knowles, 
Korchinski, 
Lahaye, 



Lambert, 

Letourneau, 

Macdonnell, 

MacEwan, 

Maclnnis, 

MacLean (Queens), 

MacLellan, 

MacRae, 

McBain, 

McCleave, 

McFarlane, 

Mcintosh, 

McLennan, 

Mandziuk, 

Martel, 

Martini, 

Matthews, 

Monteith (Perth), 

Monteith (Verdun), 

Montgomery, 

More, 

Morissette, 

Morris, 

Morton, 

Muir (Cape 
Breton North 
and Victoria), 

Muir (Lisgar), 

Murphy, 

Nesbitt, 

Noble, 

Nowlan, 

Nugent, 

O'Hurley, 

O'Leary, 

Pallett, 



Parizeau, 

Pascoe, 

Paul, 

Phillips, 

Pigeon, 

Pugh, 

Rapp, 

Ricard, 

Richard 

(Kamouraska), 
Robinson, 
Rogers, 
Rompre, 
Rynard, 
Simpson, 
Slogan, 
Small, 
Smith (Simcoe 

North), 
Smith 

(Winnipeg North), 
Southam, 
Spencer, 
Starr, 
Stefanson, 
Stewart, 
Thomas, 
Thompson, 
Thrasher, 
Tremblay, 
Valade, 
Walker, 
Webb, 
Weichel, 
White, 
Wratten— 130. 



Nays 
Messrs: 



Badanai, 


Dumas, 


Loiselle, 


Pitman, 


Batten, 


Dupuis, 


Mcllraith,, 


Regier, 


Boivin, 


Eudes, 


McMillan, 


Richard 


Bourque, 


Fisher, 


Martin (Essex East), 


(Saint-Maurice 


Cardin, 


Granger, 


Matheson, 


Lafleche), 


Caron, 


Herridge, 


Meunier, 


Robichaud, 


Carter, 


Howard, 


Michaud, 


Rouleau, 


Chevrier, 


LaMarsh (Miss), 


Pearson, 


Tardif, 


Clermont, 


Leduc, 


Peters, 


Tucker, 


Denis, 


Lessard, 


Pickersgill, 


Winch— 38. 



352 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

The Committee of Supply resumed. 

(In the Committee) 
The following resolutions were adopted: 

FURTHER SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES (4), 1961-62 

NORTHERN AFFAIRS AND NATIONAL RESOURCES 
Northern Administration Branch 

Education Division — 

730 Administration, Operation and Maintenance — Further 

amount required $ 200,000 00 

Welfare and Industrial Divisions — 

731 Administration, Operation and Maintenance — Further 

amount required 202,000 00 

Yukon Territory — 

732 Operation and Maintenance — To extend the purposes 

of Vote 302 of the Main Estimates for 1961-62 to 
include the contributions detailed in these 
Estimates 51,020 00 

Northwest Territories and Other Field Services — 

733 Operation and Maintenance — Further amount required 220,000 00 

National Museum of Canada 

734 Administration, Operation and Maintenance — Further 

amount required 50,000 00 

And the House continuing in Committee; 

At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker took the Chair. 



(Private Members' Business was called pursuant to section (3) of Standing 
Order 15) 

(Private Bills) 

By unanimous consent, it was ordered that Order No. 191 be added to 
Order No. 1. 



The following bills were considered in Committee of the Whole, reported 
without amendment, read the third time and passed: 

Bill S-10, An Act to incorporate Gerand Acceptance Company, 

Bill S-14, An Act respecting Canada Security Assurance Company. 

Bill S-15, An Act respecting The Canadian Indemnity Company and the 
Canadian Fire Insurance Company. 

Bill S-12, An Act respecting Reliance Insurance Company of Canada. 

Bill S-9, An Act to incorporate Brock Acceptance Company. 



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THURSDAY, 12th APRIL 



353 



The Order being read for the second reading of Bill SD-1, An Act for 
the relief of Madeleine Francoise Hankowski; 

Mr. McCleave, seconded by Mr. Mandziuk, moved, — That the said bill 
be now read a second time. 

And the question being put on the said motion, it was agreed to on the 
following division: 

Yeas 

Messrs: 



Aiken, 


Fairclough (Mrs.), 


MacRae, 


Phillips, 


Aitken (Miss), 


Fleming (Eglinton), 


McBain, 


Pugh, 


Allmark, 


Flemming (Royal), 


McCleave, 


Rapp, 


Baskin, 


Forbes, 


McFarlane, 


Rowe, 


Batten, 


Fournier, 


Mcintosh, 


Rynard, 


Beech, 


Grills, 


McLennan, 


Simpson, 


Bell (Carleton), 


Gundlock, 


McMillan, 


Slogan, 


Bell (Saint John- 


Hales, 


Mandziuk, 


Small, 


Albert), 


Halpenny, 


Martini, 


Smith (Simcoe 


Broome, 


Hamilton 


Matheson, 


North), 


Browne (Vancouver- 


(Notre-Dame- 


Matthews, 


Smith (Winnipeg 


Kings way), 


de-Grace), 


Monteith (Perth), 


North), 


Brunsden, 


Harkness, 


Montgomery, 


Southam, 


Campbell 


Hicks, 


More, 


Spencer, 


(Lambton-Kent), 


Hodgson, 


Morton, 


Starr, 


Cardiff, 


Horner 


Muir (Cape 


Stefanson, 


Carter, 


(The Battlef ords), 


Breton North 


Stewart, 


Cathers, 


Howe, 


and Victoria), 


Taylor, 


Chambers, 


Jones, 


Muir (Lisgar), 


Thomas, 


Charlton, 


Kennedy, 


Murphy, 


Tucker, 


Coates, 


Knowles, 


Nesbitt, 


Walker, 


Cooper, 


Lambert, 


Noble, 


Webb, 


Crouse, 


Macdonnell, 


Nowlan, 


Weichel, 


Danforth, 


MacEwan, 


Nugent, 


White, 


Doucett, 


Maclnnis, 


Pallett, 


Winkler, 


Drysdale, 


MacLean (Queens), 


Pascoe, 


Wratten— 94. 




Nays 






Messrs: 




Fisher, 


Howard, 


Peters, 


Regier, 


Herridge, 


Martin (Timmins), 


Pitman, 


Winch— 8. 



Accordingly, the said bill was read the second time and referred to the 
Standing Committee on Miscellaneous Private Bills (together with the evidence 
taken and the papers produced in respect of the said bill before the Senate 
Standing Committee on Divorce). 



The Order being read for the second reading of Bill SD-2, An Act for 
the relief of Bruce Reid Campbell; 

Mr. McCleave, seconded by Mr. Mandziuk, moved, — That the said bill 
be now read a second time. 



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And the question being put on the said motion, it was agreed to on the 
following division: 

Yeas 

Messrs: 



Aiken, 


Doucett, 


MacRae, 


Pugh, 


Aitken (Miss), 


Drysdale, 


McBain, 


Rapp, 


Allmark, 


Fairclough (Mrs.), 


McCleave, 


Rowe, 


Baskin, 


Flemming (Royal), 


McFarlane, 


Rynard, 


Batten, 


Forbes, 


Mcintosh, 


Simpson, 


Beech, 


Fournier, 


McLennan, 


Slogan, 


Bell (Carleton), 


Grills, 


McMillan, 


Small, 


Bell (Saint John- 


Gundlock, 


Mandziuk, 


Smith (Simcoe 


Albert), 


Hales, 


Martini, 


North), 


Broome, 


Harkness, 


Matheson, 


Smith (Winnipeg 


Browne (Vancouver- 


Hicks, 


Matthews, 


North), 


Kingsway), 


Hodgson, 


Montgomery, 


Southam, 


Brunsden, 


Horner 


More, 


Starr, 


Campbell 


(The Battlef ords) 


, Morton, 


Stewart, 


(Lambton-Kent), 


Howe, 


Muir (Lisgar), 


Taylor, 


Cardiff, 


Jones, 


Murphy, 


Thomas, 


Carter, 


Kennedy, 


Nesbitt, 


Tucker, 


Cathers, 


Knowles, 


Noble, 


Webb, 


Coates, 


Lambert, 


Nowlan, 


Weichel, 


Cooper, 


Macdonnell, 


Nugent, 


White, 


Crouse, 


MacEwan, 


Pallett, 


Winkler, 


Danforth, 


Maclnnis, 


Pascoe, 
Nays 


Wratten— 82. 




Messrs: 





Fisher, 
Herridge, 



Howard, Peters, 

Martin (Timmins), Pitman, 



Regier, 
Winch— 8. 



Accordingly, the said bill was read the second time and referred to the 
Standing Committee on Miscellaneous Private Bills (together with the evidence 
taken and the papers produced in respect of the said bill before the Senate 
Standing Committee on Divorce). 



The Order being read for the second reading of Bill SD-3, An Act for 
the relief of William Metcalfe Watt; 

Mr. McCleave, seconded by Mr. Mandziuk, moved, — That the said bill 
be now read a second time. 

And the question being put on the said motion, it was agreed to on the 
following division: 

Yeas 

Messrs: 



Aiken, 

Aitken (Miss), 

Allmark, 

Baskin, 

Batten, 

Beech, 

Bell (Carleton), 



Bell (Saint John- 
Albert), 

Browne (Vancouver- 
Kings way), 

Brunsden, 

Campbell 

(Lambton-Kent) , 



Cardiff, 

Carter, 

Cathers, 

Coates, 

Cooper, 

Crouse, 

Danforth, 



Doucett, 

Drysdale, 

Fairclough (Mrs.), 

Flemming (Royal), 

Forbes, 

Fournier, 

Grills, 



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THURSDAY, 12th APRIL 




Hales, 


McBain, 


Noble, 


Smith (Simcoe 


Harkness, 


McCleave, 


Nowlan, 


North), 


Hicks, 


McFarlane, 


Nugent, 


Southam, 


Hodgson, 


McLennan, 


Pallett, 


Starr, 


Horner 


McMillan, 


Pascoe, 


Stewart, 


(TheBattlefords), 


Mandziuk, 


Phillips, 


Taylor, 


Howe, 


Martini, 


Pugh, 


Thomas, 


Kennedy, 


Matheson, 


Rapp, 


Tucker, 


Knowles, 


Matthews, 


Rogers, 


Walker, 


Macdonnell, 


Montgomery, 


Rowe, 


Webb, 


MacEwan, 


Morton, 


Rynard, 


Weichel, 


Maclnnis, 


Muir (Lisgar), 


Simpson, 


White, 


MacLean (Queens), 


Murphy, 


Slogan, 


Winkler, 


MacRae, 




Nays 
Messrs: 


Wratten— 77. 


Fisher, 


Howard, 


Peters, 


Regier, 


Herridge, 


Martin (Timmins), Pitman, 


Winch— 8. 



355 



Accordingly, the said bill was read the second time and referred to the 
Standing Committee on Miscellaneous Private Bills (together with the evidence 
taken and the papers produced in respect of the said bill before the Senate 
Standing Committee on Divorce). 

The Order being read for the second reading of Bill SD-4, An Act for 
the relief of Giovanni Pallotta; 

Mr. McCleave, seconded by Mr. Mandziuk, moved, — That the said bill 
be now read a second time. 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to, on division. 

Accordingly, the said bill was read the second time and referred to the 
Standing Committee on Miscellaneous Private Bills (together with the evidence 
taken and the papers produced in respect of the said bill before the Senate 
Standing Committee on Divorce). 

The Order being read for second reading of Bill SD-5, An Act for the 
relief of Mildred Dawson Meakins; 

Mr. McCleave, seconded by Mr. Mandziuk, moved, — That the said bill 
be now read a second time. 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



The Committee of Supply resumed. 

(In the Committee) 

The following resolutions were adopted: 

FURTHER SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES (4), 1961-62 

PRIVY COUNCIL 

Special 

735 Expenses of the Royal Commission on railway problems — 

Further amount required $ 34,462 00 

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356 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

736 Expenses of the Royal Commission on Canadian Magazines 

and Other Periodicals — Further amount required . . 22,800 00 

737 Expenses of the Royal Commission on Health Services — 

Further amount required 123,000 00 

PUBLIC PRINTING AND STATIONERY 

738 Purchasing, Stationery and Stores — Further amount re- 

quired 60,000 00 

739 Distribution of Official Documents — Further amount re- 

quired 35,500 00 

Resolutions adopted at this day's sitting of the Committee to be reported. 



The said resolutions were reported and concurred in, and the Committee 
of Supply obtained leave to sit again at the next sitting of the House. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Dorion, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Return to an 
Order of the House, dated June 14, 1961, (* Notice of Motion for the Production 
of Papers No. 145) for a copy of all payrolls, with names of employees, duration 
of employment, and amount paid in the case of each, with respect to works 
carried out in 1958 and 1959 on the Solitaire River, at Rollet, in the township 
of Desandrouins, Province of Quebec. 

By Mr. Dorion, — Return to an Address, dated March 14, 1962, to His 
Excellency the Governor-General (Notice of Motion for the Production of 
Papers No. 27) for a copy of all correspondence exchanged between the 
Government of Canada, or any agency thereof, and the Government of Nova 
Scotia, or any agency thereof, since January 1, 1956, on the subject of the 
construction of a breakwater-causeway at Port Hood, Inverness County, Nova 
Scotia. 

By Mr. Hees, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Report of Northern 
Ontario Pipe Line Crown Corporation, including its Accounts and Financial 
Statement certified by the Auditor General, for the year ended December 31, 
1961, pursuant to sections 85(3) and 87(3) of the Financial Administration 
Act, chapter 116, R.S.C., 1952. (English and French). 

By the Examiner of Petitions for Private Bills, — Seventeenth Report, 
pursuant to Standing Order 100(2), as follows: 

The Examiner of Petitions for Private Bills has the honour to report that 
the following petitioners for divorce Acts have complied with the requirements 
of Standing Order 96: 

James Robert Breslin of Pierrefonds, Quebec, husband of Mary Marlene 
Leona Beaudoin Breslin. 

Guy Lefebvre of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Madeleine Bergeron 
Lefebvre. 



A.D. 1962 THURSDAY, 12th APRIL 357 

Joseph Maurice Sealy of Ville Jacques Cartier, Quebec, husband of Clara 
Allan Godding Sealy. 

Anna May Watts Sergent, wife of William Charles Ross Sergent of West- 
mount, Quebec. 

Ginette Noela Melanie Hugon Soulier, wife of Robert Jean Soulier of 
Montreal, Quebec. 



At 10.05 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until tomorrow at 11.00 o'clock a.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



A.D. 1962 FRIDAY, 13th APRIL 

No. 62 

JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, FRIDAY, 13th APRIL, 1962 



11.00 o'clock a.m. 

Prayers. 

Mr. Diefenbaker, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, laid before 
the House,— Order in Council P.C. 1962-542, dated April 13, 1962, approving 
by-law No. 54 amending the Rules of the Canadian National Railways Pension 
Plan. 



Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), seconded by Mr. Hees, moved, — That the House 
do go into Committee of the Whole at its next sitting to consider the following 
proposed resolution which has been recommended to the House by His 
Excellency: — 

That it is expedient to introduce a measure to amend the Federal-Provincial 
Fiscal Arrangements Act to provide an arrangement with respect to fiscal 
years commencing on or after April 1, 1962 similar to that provided in the 
Federal-Provincial Tax-Sharing Arrangements Act with respect to previous 
fiscal years; to provide also in the said amendment for an increase of one- third 
in the amount of the payment, from one dollar and fifty cents to two dollars 
per capita. 

Resolved, — That the House do go into Committee of the Whole at its next 
sitting to consider the said proposed resolution. 



The House resolved itself again into Committee of Supply. 

(In the Committee) 
The following resolutions were adopted: 



360 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

FURTHER SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES (4), 1961-62 

PUBLIC PRINTING AND STATIONERY 

740 Printing and Binding Official Publications for Sale and 

Distribution to Departments and the Public — Further 

amount required $ 200,000 00 

741 Reimbursement of the Queen's Printer's Advance Account 

for the value of stores which have become obsolete, 
unserviceable, lost or destroyed 34,821 00 

PUBLIC WORKS 
Central Mortgage and Housing Corporation 

742 To reimburse Central Mortgage and Housing Corporation 

for losses sustained by it during the fiscal year 1960-61 
as a result of the operation of Federal-Provincial 
projects undertaken under section 36 of the National 
Housing Act, 1954 — To extend the purposes of Vote 
577, Supplementary Estimates, 1961-62, to include 
such losses sustained on or before December 31, 1961 1,035,918 00 

743 Reimbursement to Central Mortgage and Housing Corpo- 

ration for amounts loaned under section 36H of the 
National Housing Act, 1954, to municipalities and 
municipal sewerage corporations, and forgiven by the 
Corporation during the calendar year 1961, pursuant 
to section 36G of the Act 35,536 00 

National Capital Commission 

744 Operation and maintenance of parks, parkways and 

grounds adjoining Government Buildings at Ottawa 
and Hull, and General Administration — Further 
amount required 25,000 00 

LOANS, INVESTMENTS AND ADVANCES 

Public Works 
Central Mortgage and Housing Corporation 

764 Advances pursuant to sub-section (4) of section 36 of the 

National Housing Act, 1954, in respect of housing and 
land development projects undertaken jointly with 
the Governments of the Provinces during the fiscal 
year 1960-61 — To extend the purposes of Vote 601, 
Supplementary Estimates, 1961-62, to provide for such 
advances in respect of housing and land develop- 
ment projects undertaken on or before December 
31, 1961 8,500,000 00 

765 Advances charged to the special account in the Consoli- 

dated Revenue Fund established by subsection (2) of 
section 36H of the National Housing Act, 1954, in re- 
spect of loans to municipalities and municipal sewer- 
age corporations, for construction or expansion of 
municipal sewage treatment projects during the calen- 
dar year 1961 3,000,000 00 



A.D. 1962 FRIDAY, 13th APRIL 361 

TRADE AND COMMERCE 

A — Department 

General Administration 

745 Departmental Administration — Further amount required 150,000 00 

Trade Commissioner Service — 

746 Administration and Operation — Further amount re- 

quired 167,500 00 

747 Construction or Acquisition of Buildings, Land, Equip- 

ment and Furnishings — Further amount required 70,000 00 

TRANSPORT 

A — Department 

Marine Services 

Marine Regulations including Pilotage and Marine Report- 
ing Services — 

748 Administration, Operations and Maintenance — To ex- 

tend the purposes of Vote 412, Main Estimates, 
1961-62, to include the payment of expenses, in- 
cluding excepted expenses, incurred in respect of 
Canadian distressed seamen 1 00 

Railway and Steamship Services 

749 Bell Island-Portugal Cove, Newfoundland Ferry Service — 

Repairs and Improvements to Terminal Facilities 

owned by Newfoundland — Further amount required 39,600 00 

Payments to the Canadian National Railway Company 
(hereinafter called the Company) upon applica- 
tions approved by the Minister of Transport, 
made by the Company to the Minister of Finance, 
to be applied by the Company in payment of the 
deficits, certified by the auditors of the Company, 
arising in the operations in the calendar year 1961 
— Further amounts required — 

750 Prince Edward Island Car Ferry and Terminals . . 139,552 00 

751 Newfoundland Ferry and Terminals 685,792 00 

752 Canadian National Railways Deficit, 1961 — Amount re- 

quired to provide for payment to the Canadian Na- 
tional Railway Company (hereinafter called the Na- 
tional Company) upon applications approved by the 
Minister of Transport, made by the National Com- 
pany to the Minister of Finance, and to be applied by 
the National Company in payment of the system deficit 
(certified by the auditors of the National Company) 
arising in the calendar year 1961, subject to recovery 
therefrom of accountable advances made to the Na- 
tional Company from the Consolidated Revenue Fund 67,307,772 00 



362 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

Pensions and Other Benefits 

753 Supplemental Pension Allowances to former employees of 

Newfoundland Railways, Steamships and Telecom- 
munication Services transferred to Canadian National 
Railways — Further amount required 6,546 00 

General 

754 Trans-Canada Air Lines Deficit, 1961 — Amount required to 

provide for payment to Trans-Canada Air Lines 
(hereinafter called the Company) upon applications 
approved by the Minister of Transport, made by the 
Company to the Minister of Finance, and to be applied 
by the Company in payment of the deficit (certified by 
the auditors of the Company) arising in the calendar 
year 1961, subject to recovery therefrom of account- 
able advances made to the Company from the Consoli- 
dated Revenue Fund 6,450,082 00 

755 Reimbursement of the Department of Transport Stores Ac- 

count for the value of stores which have become ob- 
solete, unserviceable, lost or destroyed 64,628 00 



B — General 

Canadian Maritime Commission 

756 Steamship Subventions for Coastal Services, as detailed 

in the Estimates — Further amount required 915,137 00 



LOANS, INVESTMENTS AND ADVANCES 

Transport 

St. Lawrence Seaway Authority 

766 Loans to the St. Lawrence Seaway Authority in such man- 
ner and subject to such terms and conditions as the 
Governor in Council may approve — Further amount 
required 4,125,000 00 

VETERANS AFFAIRS 

757 Prosthetic Services — Supply, Manufacture and Adminis- 

tration — Further amount required 48,000 00 

War Veterans Allowances and Other Benefits 

758 War Veterans Allowances — To extend the purposes of Vote 

462, Main Estimates, 1961-62, to provide for the pay- 
ment of the allowances prescribed in Part XI of the 
Civilian War Pensions and Allowances Act; to provide 



A.D. 1962 FRIDAY, 13th APRIL 363 

for the payment of the said allowances in the 1962-63 
fiscal year out of any moneys appropriated in respect 
of that fiscal year for war veterans allowances, and to 
provide a further amount of 250,000 00 

Canadian Pension Commission 

759 To authorize payment of a pension for life with effect from 

the 1st day of March, 1961 to Mrs. Mary Cant well, 
widow of Private William John Cantwell, 10th Bat- 
talion, Northwest Field Forces, in an amount equal to 
the amount that she would otherwise receive under the 
Pension Act, as amended from time to time, had the 
service of Private Cantwell in the Northwest Field 
Forces been full-time paid service in the Armed Forces 
of Canada subsequent to World War I; and to ratify all 
payments made to Mrs. Cantwell as pension prior to 
the 1st day of March, 1961 1 00 

Soldier Settlement and Veterans' Land Act 

760 Grants to veterans settled on Provincial Lands in accord- 

ance with agreements with Provincial Governments 
under section 38 of the Veterans' Land Act and grants 
to veterans settled on Dominion Lands, in accordance 
with an agreement with the Minister of Northern Af- 
fairs and National Resources under section 38 of the 
Veterans' Land Act — Further amount required . . . . 35,000 00 

NORTHERN AFFAIRS AND NATIONAL RESOURCES 

Water Resources Branch 

Water Resources Branch — 
729 Administration, Operation and Maintenance — Further 

amount required 50,000 00 

EXTERNAL AFFAIRS 
A — Department 

692 Departmental Administration — Further amount re- 

quired 225,000 00 

693 Representation Abroad — Operational — Further amount 

required 85,000 00 

694 Canada's civilian participation as a member of the Inter- 

national Commissions for Supervision and Control in 

Indo-China — Further amount required 89,000 00 

695 Official Hospitality — Further amount required 6,500 00 

Resolutions to be reported. 



The said resolutions were reported and concurred in, and the Committee 
of Supply obtained leave to sit again at the next sitting of the House. 



364 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

By unanimous consent, a Statement concerning Employees of the Depart- 
ment of Transport and the St. Lawrence Seaway Authority at Cornwall, 
Ontario, was laid upon the Table. 



A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Senate had passed Bill C-46, An Act to amend the Representation Act, without 
amendment. 



A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Senate had passed the following bills to which the concurrence of this House 
is desired: 

Bill SD-190, An Act for the relief of Elizabeth Anne Kotania.— Mr. Mc- 
Cleave. 

Bill SD-191, An Act for the relief of Hyman Omri Tannenbaum. — Mr. 
McCleave. 

Bill SD-192, An Act for the relief of Rosa Jacobson. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-193, An Act for the relief of Stephen Alexander Lantos. — Mr. 
McCleave. 

Bill SD-194, An Act for the relief of Frank Hamilton Mingie, junior. 
— Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-195, An Act for the relief of Frieda Lina Schaub. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-196, An Act for the relief of Alma Ivy Bankley. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-197, An Act for the relief of Colleen Ann Kenny. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-198, An Act for the relief of Phyllis Carol Johnston. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-199, An Act for the relief of Leonard Emond.— Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-200, An Act for the relief of Edith Rozel McDougall. — Mr. Mc- 
Cleave. 

Bill SD-201, An Act for the relief of Kenneth Allen Blight.— Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-202, An Act for the relief of Ellen Chase McKellar. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-203, An Act for the relief of Mona Pozza. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-204, An Act for the relief of John Faucher. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-205, An Act for the relief of Violet Pearl St. James Lemoine. 
— Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-206, An Act for the relief of Ann Marguerite MacDonald. 
— Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-207, An Act for the relief of Eva Florence Plaskett. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-208, An Act for the relief of Karl Heinz Kerlikowsky. — Mr. 
McCleave. 

Bill SD-209, An Act for the relief of Hilda Desjardins. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-210, An Act for the relief of Sandra Mary Louise Martin. — Mr. 
McCleave. 

Bill SD-211, An Act for the relief of Mary Iris Fournier. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-212, An Act for the relief of Rosemary Louise Eakins. — Mr. 
McCleave. 

Bill SD-213, An Act for the relief of Phyllis Manoah. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-214, An Act for the relief of Jean Elizabeth O'Reilly.— Mr. Mc- 
Cleave. 

Bill SD-215, An Act for the relief of Maureen Mary Piercey. — Mr. Mc- 
Cleave. 



A.D. 1962 FRIDAY, 13th APRIL 365 

Bill SD-216, An Act for the relief of Josephine Mary Croll. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-217, An Act for the relief of Milton Lawrence Trickey. — Mr. 
McCleave. 

Bill SD-218, An Act for the relief of William John Loke. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-219, An Act for the relief of Anita Guido Knezevic. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-220, An Act for the relief of Shirley Brimacombe. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-221, An Act for the relief of Betty O'NeiL— Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-222, An Act for the relief of Rebecca Rosenstrauss. — Mr. Mc- 
Cleave. 

Bill SD-223, An Act for the relief of Paulyne Leblanc. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-224, An Act for the relief of Marie Joan Patricia Jeffries. — Mr. 
McCleave. 

Bill SD-225, An Act for the relief of Isadore Rosenblatt. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-226, An Act for the relief of Alice Elizabeth Clarke.— Mr. Mc- 
Cleave. 

Bill SD-227, An Act for the relief of Armando Argentini. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-228, An Act for the relief of Molly Sacks.— Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-229, An Act for the relief of Millicent Vera Seagrove. — Mr. 
McCleave. 

Bill SD-230, An Act for the relief of Joseph Jean Paul Fernand Blanchette. 
— Mr. McCleave. 

The said bills were deemed to have been read the first time and ordered 
for a second reading at the next sitting of the House pursuant to Standing 
Order 103(2). 

A Message was received from the Senate communicating to this House 
the evidence taken and the papers produced in respect of the above-mentioned 
divorce bills, with a request that the said evidence and papers be returned to 
the Senate. 



(Private Members' Business was called pursuant to section (3) of Stand- 
ing Order 15) 

(Public Bills) 

The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-42, An Act to 
provide for Minimum Wages for Employees; 

Mr. Peters, seconded by Mr. Howard, moved, — That the said bill be now 
read a second time. 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mrs. Fairclough, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Report of 
the Number and Amount of Loans to Indians made under section 69(1) of 
the Indian Act in the year ended March 31, 1962, pursuant to section 69(6) 
of the said Act, chapter 149, R.S.C., 1952. 



366 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

By Mrs. Fairclough for Mr. Dorion, — Return to an Order of the House, 
dated March 12, 1962, (Question No. 229) showing: 1. What are the names, 
present positions, qualifications, degrees, and experience in the construction 
or operation of hydro plants, dams, etc., of the officials in the head office in 
Ottawa of the Hydraulics Division of the Water Resources Branch of the 
Department of Northern Affairs and National Resources? 

2. Have any of these officials ever been employed in any capacity with 
a foreign government, or with an agency of a foreign government, or in the 
water resources field in a foreign land, or with any private corporation at 
home or abroad; and, if so, what are the names of the officials concerned, 
and the details of their foreign employment? 

By Mr. Walker, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Capital Budget 
of the National Capital Commission for the year ending March 31, 1963, pursuant 
to section 80(2) of the Financial Administration Act, chapter 116, R.S.C., 1952. 
(English and French). 



At 6.02 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until Monday next at 2.30 o'clock p.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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No. 63 

JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, MONDAY, 16th APRIL, 1962. 



2.30 o'clock p.m. 
Prayers. 

Mr. McCleave, from the Standing Committee on Miscellaneous Private 
Bills, presented the Fifth Report of the said Committee which is as follows: — 

Your Committee has considered the following bills and has agreed to 
report them without amendment: 

Bill SD-1, An Act for the relief of Madeleine Francoise Hankowski. 

Bill SD-2, An Act for the relief of Bruce Reid Campbell. 

Bill SD-3, An Act for the relief of William Metcalfe Watt. 

Bill SD-4, An Act for the relief of Giovanni Pallotta. 

Your Committee returns herewith the evidence and papers transmitted by 
the Senate to this House in relation thereto. 

The following Notice of Motion having been called was transferred to 
Government Orders for consideration at the next sitting of the House pursuant 
to Standing Order 21(2): 

That it is expedient that the Houses of Parliament do approve the Inter- 
national Wheat Agreement to be opened for signature at Washington, D.C., 
on April 19, 1962, and that this House do approve the same. — The Minister of 
Agriculture. 

The following Questions were made Orders for Returns under the provi- 
sions of Standing Order 39(4): 

Question No. 391, by Mr. Robichaud, — Order of the House for a Return 
showing: 1. How is the compensation for prevailing rates employees in (a) the 
national parks (b) the national historic parks, established? 



368 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

2. What are the present hourly rates for each classification of these em- 
ployees in (a) each of the national parks of Canada (b) each of the national 
historic parks of Canada? 

Mr. Dinsdale, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, presented, — Return 
to the foregoing Order. 



Question No. 429, by Mr. Herridge, — Order of the House for a Return show- 
ing: 1. What are the names, annual salaries, and expenses of the super- 
intendent and administrative staff of Revelstoke National Park for the fiscal 
year 1960-61? 

2. Were houses built for the superintendent and administrative staff; and, 
if so, (a) what is their number (b) what is the average size in floor space (c) 
what was their average cost per square foot of floor space (d) what was the 
cost of landscaping per house (e) what was the cost in the fiscal year 1960-61 
of providing for each house; (i) oil (ii) coal (iii) wood (iv) gas (v) light 
and water? (Answers for (b) to (e) are required broken down into (1) 
superintendent (2) other administrative staff.) 

3. What is the size of the paving blocks from the superintendent's house 
to the street, and what was the cost per block? 

4. How many passenger cars and other vehicles were used by the super- 
intendent and staff in Revelstoke Park in the fiscal year 1960-61? 

5. What was the cost of operation per vehicle in the fiscal year 1960-61? 

6. What were the regulations for use of vehicles by the staff in off-duty 
hours in the fiscal year 1960-61? 

7. What was the inventory of the road and other machinery located and 
used in Revelstoke Park in the fiscal year 1960-61? 

8. What was the cost of repairs and fuel for these vehicles for operation 
of the machinery during the fiscal year 1960-61? 

9. Have any of the park employees been employed on projects under- 
taken by contracts in the fiscal year 1960-61? 

Question No. 440, by Mr. Caron, — Order of the House for a Return show- 
ing: Since the Minister of Transport has assumed office, has any person or 
organization paid or agreed to pay for the use of government planes for any 
purpose whatsoever; and, if so, what are the names of such persons or organiza- 
tions? 

Question No. 447, by Mr. McGee, — Order of the House for a Return show- 
ing: Were there any requests made by departments of government or other 
emanations of the Crown to the Management Analysis Division of the Civil 
Service Commission in the year 1961; and, if so, (a) which departments were 
involved (b) in each case, how many surveys were requested (c) in each case, 
how many surveys were completed (d) how many are still in progress (e) what 
were the dates that the results were forwarded to the departments concerned 
(f) what, if any, were the estimated annual savings in each case? 

Question No. 448, by Mr. McGee, — Order of the House for a Return 
showing: Is any department in the Government of Canada or any Crown 
Corporation employing private management consultation firms in the interest 
of greater efficiency; and, if so, which government departments are involved, 
and what are the names of the organizations which have been hired? 



A.D. 1962 MONDAY, 16th APRIL 369 

By unanimous consent, it was ordered that the statement made on April 
12, 1962, by General Burns at the Geneva Disarmament Conference be printed 
as an Appendix to this day's Hansard. 

The House resolved itself again into Committee of Supply; 

And the House continuing in Committee; 

At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker took the Chair. 



By unanimous consent, it was ordered that the resumption of the business 
of the Committee of Supply be deferred until consideration of the Order con- 
cerning approval of the Universal Copyright Convention has been disposed of. 



(Private Members' Business was called pursuant to section (3) of 
Standing Order 15) 

(Notices of Motions) 

Mr. Beech, seconded by Mr. Wratten, moved, — That, in the opinion of 
this House, the government should take under consideration the setting up of 
a Department of Industry for the purpose of promoting and assisting the manu- 
facturing industry in Canada. — (Notice of Motion No. 21). 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



Mr. Dorion, seconded by Mr. Churchill, moved, — That it is expedient that 
the Houses of Parliament approve the Universal Copyright Convention signed 
by Canada in Geneva in 1952 and Protocol 3 thereto, and that this House 
do approve the same. 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 



The Committee of Supply resumed. 

(In the Committee) 
The following resolutions were adopted: 

FURTHER SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES (4), 1961-62 

EXTERNAL AFFAIRS 
A-Department 

696 Canadian Representation at International Confer- 

ences — Further amount required $ 115,000 00 

697 Grant to defray a portion of the costs of Canadian partic- 

ipation in the First Session of the Atlantic Con- 
vention 6,000 00 



370 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

698 Contribution towards the furnishing of Marlborough 

House, London, England, in an amount of £310, not- 
withstanding that payment may exceed or fall short 
of the equivalent in Canadian dollars, estimated as 
of February, 1962, which is 915 00 

Contributions to International Economic 
and Special Aid Programs 

Special Aid Programs — 

699 Expenses in connection with Canada's participation 

in the World Refugee Year, for the completion 
of the Tuberculous Refugee Program — Further 
amount required 64,000 00 

700 To reimburse the Agricultural Stabilization Board 

for skim milk powder donated to international 

relief agencies 114,282 00 

Other Payments to International Organizations and Programs 

701 Assessments for Membership in the International (includ- 

ing Commonwealth) Organizations that are detailed 
in the Estimates, including authority to pay such as- 
sessments in the amounts and in the currencies in 
which they are levied — Further amount required in 
Canadian dollars, estimated as of February, 1962 .... 471,976 00 

702 Payment to the International Civil Aviation Organiza- 

tion in part reimbursement of compensation paid to 
its Canadian employees for Quebec income tax for 
the 1960 taxation year — Further amount required . . 1,465 00 

703 To provide the International Civil Aviation Organization 

with office accommodation at less than commercial 

rates — Further amount required 27,202 00 

704 Assessment for the United Nations Congo Ad Hoc Account 

for 1961 — To extend the purposes of Vote 516 of the 
Supplementary Estimates, 1961-62, to provide for pay- 
ment of the assessment for the said Account for 1962, 
and to provide a further amount of $2,493,376 U.S., 
notwithstanding that payment may exceed or fall short 
of the equivalent in Canadian dollars; the amount re- 
quired in Canadian dollars, estimated as of February, 
1962, is 2,612,591 00 

705 Assessment towards financing the United Nations Emer- 

gency Force in an amount of $300,690 U.S., notwith- 
standing that payment may exceed or fall short of the 
equivalent in Canadian dollars, estimated as of Feb- 
ruary, 1962, which is 315,067 00 

706 Canada's share of the costs incurred by the United Nations 

of the Geneva conference on the settlement of the 

Laotian question 11,000 00 



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LOANS, INVESTMENTS AND ADVANCES 
External Affairs 

761 Additional advance to the Working Capital Fund of the 

United Nations Organization in the amount of $2,391 
U.S., notwithstanding that payment may exceed or fall 
short of the equivalent in Canadian dollars, estimated 
as of February, 1962, which is 2,506 00 

762 Additional advance to the Working Capital Fund of the 

Food and Agriculture Organization in the amount 
of $9,694 U.S., notwithstanding that payment may ex- 
ceed or fall short of the equivalent in Canadian dollars, 
estimated as of February, 1962, which is 10,157 00 

763 Additional advance to the Working Capital Fund of the 

Intergovernmental Maritime Consultative Organiza- 
tion in the amount of $560 U.S., notwithstanding that 
payment may exceed or fall short of the equivalent 
in Canadian dollars, estimated as of February, 1962, 
which is 587 00 

Resolutions to be reported. 



The said resolutions were reported and concurred in, and the Com- 
mittee of Supply obtained leave to sit again at the next sitting of the House. 



The House resolved itself again into Committee of Ways and Means, 
and progress having been made and reported, the Committee obtained leave to 
sit again at the next sitting of the House. 



A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Senate had passed Bill C-80, An Act to amend the Veterans' Land Act, without 
amendment. 



A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Senate had passed the following bills to which the concurrence of this House 
is desired: 

Bill SD-231, An Act for the relief of Karl-Heinz Hans Luedders. — Mr. 
McCleave. 

Bill SD-232, An Act for the relief of Leslie Thomas Norval Modler. 
— Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-233, An Act for the relief of Amy Sandra Glendinning. — Mr. 
McCleave. 

Bill SD-234, An Act for the relief of Muriel Howarth Hulbig. — Mr. 
McCleave. 

Bill SD-235, An Act for the relief of Kathleen Sangster. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-236, An Act for the relief of Phyllis Siev— Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-237, An Act for the relief of Marjorie Brown. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-238, An Act for the relief of Jean Letovsky. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-239, An Act for the relief of Shirley Margaret Woolley.— Mr. 
McCleave. 



372 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

Bill SD-240, An Act for the relief of Ida Schwartz. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-241, An Act for the relief of Nathalie Longtin. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-242, An Act for the relief of Vida Irene Louise McCallum. 
— Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-243, An Act for the relief of Margaret Joan Digby. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-244, An Act for the relief of Nadia-Anne Hruszij. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-245, An Act for the relief of Maureen Knowles. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-246, An Act for the relief of Joyce Irene Larocque. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-247, An Act for the relief of Rolland Commoy. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-248, An Act for the relief of Ginette Noela Melanie Soulier. 
— Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-249, An Act for the relief of Jeannette Carignan. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-250, An Act for the relief of Nora Bridget Lahey. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-251, An Act for the relief of Virginia Ruth Parmiter. — Mr. 
McCleave. 

Bill SD-252, An Act for the relief of Betty Ankhelyi. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-253, An Act for the relief of Barbara Ann Sobrian. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-254, An Act for the relief of Susanne Reiner. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-255, An Act for the relief of Marie Emilia Rolande Gittens. 
— Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-256, An Act for the relief of Suzanne Chasse. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-257, An Act for the relief of Barbara Patricia Rogers. — Mr. Mc- 
Cleave. 

Bill SD-258, An Act for the relief of Roland Demers. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-259, An Act for the relief of Lajos Nagy, otherwise known as Louis 
Nagy. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-260, An Act for the relief of Eloise Sonne. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-261, An Act for the relief of Jennie Zajko. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-262, An Act for the relief of Robert Fleischer. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-263, An Act for the relief of Hugh O'Connor. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-264, An Act for the relief of Charles Harold Page.— Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-265, An Act for the relief of Vera Irene MacKenzie. — Mr. Mc- 
Cleave. 

Bill SD-266, An Act for the relief of Guy Lefebvre. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-267, An Act for the relief of Beverley Ann Maughan. — Mr. Mc- 
Cleave. 

Bill SD-268, An Act for the relief of Marie Theresa Sckyra. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-269, An Act for the relief of Rosi Irma Parrouty. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-270, An Act for the relief of Barbara Gladys Gregory. — Mr. Mc- 
Cleave. 

Bill SD-271, An Act for the relief of Mary Yvonne Giguere. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-272, An Act for the relief of Ion Ignatescu. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-273, An Act for the relief of Carmen Abrams. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-274, An Act for the relief of Margaret Elaine Gallagher. — Mr. 
McCleave. 

Bill SD-275, An Act for the relief of Haia (Clara) Fuchsman— Mr. Mc- 
Cleave. 

Bill SD-276, An Act for the relief of Lois Budd. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-277, An Act for the relief of Elizabeth Laptew.— Mr. McCleave. 



A.D. 1962 MONDAY, 16th APRIL 373 

Bill SD-278, An Act for the relief of Mary Gallagher. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-279, An Act for the relief of Margit Bene. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-280, An Act for the relief of Therese Genest. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-281, An Act for the relief of Aranka Ilona Berendy. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-282, An Act for the relief of Margaret Anne Harvey. — Mr. Mc- 
Cleave. 

Bill SD-283, An Act for the relief of Joseph Maurice Sealy. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-284, An Act for the relief of Valerie Jean Morton. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-285, An Act for the relief of Ruth Ilona Elkin. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-286, An Act for the relief of Lorraine Burt. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-287, An Act for the relief of Denise Bachelder. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-288, An Act for the relief of Nicole Marie Geoffroy. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-289, An Act for the relief of Martin Simeon Levy. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-290, An Act for the relief of James Robert Breslin. — Mr. Mc- 
Cleave. 

Bill SD-291, An Act for the relief of Marcelle Rosenberg. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-292, An Act for the relief of Judith MacBeth Cuggy— Mr. Mc- 
Cleave. 

Bill SD-293, An Act for the relief of Irene Tyminski. — Mr. McCleave. 

The said bills were deemed to have been read the first time and ordered 
for a second reading at the next sitting of the House pursuant to Standing 
Order 103(2). 

A Message was received from the Senate communicating to this House the 
evidence taken and the papers produced in respect of the above-mentioned 
divorce bills, with a request that the said evidence and papers be returned to 
the Senate. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Diefenbaker, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Statutory 
Orders and Regulations published in the Canada Gazette, Part II, of Wednesday, 
April 11, 1962, pursuant to section 7 of the Regulations Act, chapter 235, 
R.S.C., 1952. (English and French). 

By Mr. Balcer, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Report entitled: 
"Department of Transport — Annual Record of Operations, 1960-61". 

By Mr. Dinsdale, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Report of 
Proceedings under the Atlantic Provinces Power Development Act for the year 
ended March 31, 1961, pursuant to section 6 of the said Act, chapter 25, 
Statutes of Canada, 1957-58. 

By Mr. Dorion, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Return to 
an Order of the House, dated March 5, 1962, (Question No. 243) showing: 
1. On what date did the federal government reach agreement with each 
of the provinces in regard to the Technical and Vocational Training Assistance 
Act passed at the last Session of this Parliament? 



374 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

2. How many technical institutions "designed to provide facilities for 
those who have left the regular school system" have been approved for 
federal grants under this legislation? 

3. What are the names of these institutions, the cost of each, the federal 
share of the cost, and the estimated enrolment of these institutions? 

4. How many vocational teachers, instructors, supervisors, and adminis- 
trators were trained in each of the provinces under provisions of the Technical 
and Vocational Training Assistance Act? 

By Mr. Dorion, — Return to an Order of the House, dated April 9, 1962, 
(Question No. 417) showing: What was the total amount of legal fees paid 
by the Department of Northern Affairs and National Resources from April 1, 
1957, to March 31, 1962, in the Provinces of New Brunswick and Nova Scotia, 
and what were the names and addresses of the recipients of such fees, and 
the amount received in each case? 

By Mr. Dorion, — List of Outstanding Returns to Orders of the House 
as of April 13, 1962. 

By Mr. Green, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Copies of 
Diplomatic Instruments (English and French) as follows: 

Agreement between the Government of Canada and the Government 
of the Republic of Italy concerning the Sale in Italy of Waste Material and 
Scrap belonging to the Command of the Royal Canadian Air Force in Italy. 
Signed at Rome on December 18, 1961. In force on December 18, 1961. 

Technical Assistance Agreement on Military Training between the Gov- 
ernment of Canada and the Government of the Republic of Ghana. Signed 
at Accra on January 8, 1962. In force on January 8, 1962. 

Proces-verbal extending the Declaration on the Provisional Accession 
of the Swiss Confederation to the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade. 
Done at Geneva on December 8, 1961. Signed by Canada on January 17, 1962. 

Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations. Done at Vienna on April 18, 
1961. Signed by Canada on February 5, 1962. 

Proces-verbal extending the Declaration on the Provisional Accession 
of Tunisia to the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade. Done at Geneva 
on December 9, 1961. Signed by Canada on February 8, 1962. 

By Mr. Jorgenson, Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Agricul- 
ture, — Supplementary Report of the Canadian Wheat Board on the 1960-61 
Pool Accounts for Wheat, Oats and Barley, certified by the Auditors, pursuant 
to section 7(2) of the Canadian Wheat Board Act, chapter 44, R.S.C., 1952. 



At 10.03 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until tomorrow at 2.30 o'clock p.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, TUESDAY, 17th APRIL, 1962. 

2.30 o'clock p.m. 



Prayers. 



The House resumed consideration in Committee of the Whole of a certain 
proposed resolution respecting the establishment of an Electoral Boundaries 
Commission. 

(In the Committee) 

The following resolution was adopted: 

That it is expedient to introduce a measure respecting the establishment 
of an Electoral Boundaries Commission for the readjustment of representation 
in the House of Commons; to provide that certain members of the Commission 
may be paid such per diem allowance as may be fixed by the Governor in 
Council; to provide for the payment of reasonable travelling and living expenses 
for the members of the Commission; and to provide also that the Commission 
may engage the services of such technical advisers and other staff, including 
a person to act as secretary to the Commission, as it deems necessary. 

Resolution to be reported. 



The said resolution was reported and concurred in. 



Mr. Nowlan for Mr. Diefenbaker, seconded by Mr. Flynn, by leave of 
the House, presented Bill C-87, An Act respecting the establishment of an 
Electoral Boundaries Commission for the Readjustment of Representation in 
the House of Commons, which was read the first time and ordered for a second 
reading at the next sitting of the House. 



376 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

Mr. Hamilton (Qu'Appelle), seconded by Mr. Dorion, moved, — That it 
is expedient that the Houses of Parliament do approve the International Wheat 
Agreement to be opened for signature at Washington, D.C., on April 19, 1962, 
and that this House do approve the same. 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 



The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-79, An Act to 
amend the Customs Act; 

Mr. Nowlan, seconded by Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), moved, — That the said 
bill be now read a second time. 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 

Accordingly, the said bill was read the second time, considered in Com- 
mittee of the Whole; 

And the House continuing in Committee; 

At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker took the Chair. 



(Private Members' Business was called pursuant to section (3) of Stand- 
ing Order 15) 

(Private Bills) 

Bill S-18, An Act to incorporate Greymac Mortgage Corporation, was 
considered in Committee of the Whole, reported without amendment, read the 
third time and passed. 



Bill SD-1, An Act for the relief of Madeleine Francoise Hankowski, was 
considered in Committee of the Whole, and progress having been made and 
reported, the Committee obtained leave to consider it again at the next sitting 
of the House. 



The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



The House resumed consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bill C-79, 
An Act to amend the Customs Act, which was reported without amendment. 

By unanimous consent, the said bill was read the third time and passed. 



A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Senate had passed Bill C-38, An Act to provide for the Reporting of Financial 
and other Statistics relating to the Affairs of Corporations and Labour Unions 
carrying on Activities in Canada, without amendment. 



A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Senate had passed the following bills to which the concurrence of this House 
is desired: 

Bill SD-294, An Act for the relief of Percy Beauvais. — Mr. McCleave. 



A.D. 1962 TUESDAY, 17th APRIL 377 

Bill SD-295, An Act for the relief of Harold Moreau. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-296, An Act for the relief of Mabel Lucille Mills. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-297, An Act for the relief of Zbigniew Stanislaw Janicki. — Mr. 
McCleave. 

Bill SD-298, An Act for the relief of Anna May Sergent. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-299, An Act for the relief of Joseph Philippe Philias Fabien Parent. 
— Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-300, An Act for the relief of William Rankin Edmondson. — Mr. 
McCleave. 

Bill SD-301, An Act for the relief of Josephine Rose Nawrocki. — Mr. 
McCleave. 

Bill SD-302, An Act for the relief of Zelda Barbara Kimberg. — Mr. Mc- 
Cleave. 

Bill SD-303, An Act for the relief of Doris Irene Treriee. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-304, An Act for the relief of Alexandra Deliyannakis. — Mr. Mc- 
Cleave. 

Bill SD-305, An Act for the relief of Patricia Beverley Dimeo. — Mr. Mc- 
Cleave. 

Bill SD-306, An Act for the relief of Agnes Agai. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-307, An Act for the relief of Aida Diotte. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-308, An Act for the relief of Beverly Anne Runions. — Mr. Mc- 
Cleave. 

Bill SD-309, An Act for the relief of Karl Heinz Wunderlich. — Mr. Mc- 
Cleave. 

Bill SD-310, An Act for the relief of Marie Greensell. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-311, An Act for the relief of Bertha Staruch. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-312, An Act for the relief of Ruby Rita Smith.— Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-313, An Act for the relief of Patricia Ann Small. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-314, An Act for the relief of Pardo Belpulso. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-315, An Act for the relief of Helena Jadwiga Igiel Wodnicki. — Mr. 
McCleave. 

Bill SD-316, An Act for the relief of Adele Kathleen Strachan. — Mr. Mc- 
Cleave. 

Bill SD-317, An Act for the relief of Elizabeth Angela Stirling.— Mr. 
McCleave. 

Bill SD-318, An Act for the relief of Gabrielle Ungar. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-319, An Act for the relief of William Henry Monaghan. — Mr. 
McCleave. 

Bill SD-320, An Act for the relief of Nicholas Cimbru Chambers. — Mr. 
McCleave. 

Bill SD-321, An Act for the relief of Georgine Plzak. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-322, An Act for the relief of Joseph Leo Gerard Bougie. — Mr. 
McCleave. 

Bill SD-323, An Act for the relief of Albert Henry Grabeldinger Willis. 
— Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-324, An Act for the relief of Jeannie Belchik. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-325, An Act for the relief of Sylvia Dankner. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-326, An Act for the relief of John Donaldson. — Mr. McCleave. 

Bill SD-327, An Act for the relief of Alexander Burke. — Mr. McCleave. 
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378 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

The said bills were deemed to have been read the first time and ordered 
for a second reading at the next sitting of the House pursuant to Standing 
Order 103(2). 

A Message was received from the Senate communicating to this House the 
evidence taken and the papers produced in respect of the above-mentioned 
divorce bills, with a request that the said evidence and papers be returned to 
the Senate. 



The House resolved itself again into Committee of Ways and Means, and 
progress having been made and reported, the Committee obtained leave to sit 
again at the next sitting of the House. 



By unanimous consent, it was ordered that "Private Bills" be set down 
as the first order of business between 5 and 6 o'clock p.m. tomorrow. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Balcer, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Report of The 
St. Lawrence Seaway Authority, including its Accounts and Financial State- 
ments certified by the Auditor General, for the year ended December 31, 1961, 
pursuant to sections 85(3) and 87(3) of the Financial Administration Act, 
chapter 116, R.S.C., 1952. (English and French). 

By Mr. Dorion, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Return to an 
Address, dated April 11, 1962, to His Excellency the Governor- General (Notice 
of Motion for the Production of Papers No. 41) for a copy of all correspondence 
and memoranda between the Department of Justice and any other government 
department or agency, provincial government or provincial government agency, 
or any other person, regarding the release of John Papilia. 

By Mr. Dorion, — Return to an Order of the House, dated April 11, 1962, 
(* Question No. 434) showing: What was the total dollar value of exports of 
Canadian produce to all overseas countries via the United States in each of 
the years 1952 to 1959 inclusive? 

By Mr. Green, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Report of the 
Department of External Affairs for the year ended December 31, 1961, pursuant 
to section 6 of the Department of External Affairs Act, chapter 68, R.S.C., 1962. 
(English and French). 

By the Examiner of Petitions for Private Bills, — Eighteenth Report, 
pursuant to Standing Order 100(2), as follows: 

The Examiner of Petitions for Private Bills has the honour to report that 
the following petitioners for divorce Acts have complied with the requirements 
of Standing Order 96: 

Paul Romain Bernard Babeu of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Maria 
Jeannette L'ltalien dit St. Laurent Babeu. 

Collin Mills Campbell of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Barbara June 
Jones Campbell. 



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Sylvia Lipson Dankner, wife of Philip Dankner of Montreal, Quebec. 

Jacques Ekaireb of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Eva Staszower Ekaireb. 

Gaston Joseph Gagnon of St. Foy, Quebec, husband of Mariette Gabrielle 
Gagnon. 

Arthur Bruce Hann of Musgravetown, Newfoundland, husband of Minnie 
Jane Little Hann. 

Adam Holp of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Frieda Haas Holp. 

John Joseph Laflamme of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Anne-Marie 
Schoenwandt Laflamme. 

Gwendolyn Grace Parsons Lanctot, wife of Pierre Lanctot of St. Marguerite 
Station, Quebec. 

Margaret Meredith Cape MacDougall, wife of Robert Reford MacDougall 
of Saraguay, Quebec. 

Helen Minkoff Oulton, wife of Carl Oulton of Montreal, Quebec. 

Joseph Luc Roger Pelletier of Montreal, Quebec, husband of Marie Made- 
leine Helene Dalcourt Pelletier. 

Louisa Emily Elizabeth Stevens Porter, wife of John Andrew Porter of 
the Province of Quebec. 

Olga Eizner Rapoport, wife of Harry Rapoport of Montreal, Quebec. 

Ruby Rita Williams Smith, wife of John Michael Smith of Montreal, 
Quebec. 

Lloyd Carlton Willard of Sawyerville, Quebec, husband of Uldene Florence 
Barber Willard. 



At 10.02 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until tomorrow at 2.30 o'clock p.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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No. 65 

JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, WEDNESDAY, 18th APRIL, 1962. 

2.30 o'clock p.m. 



Prayers. 



A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Senate had passed Bill C-79, An Act to amend the Customs Act, without 
amendment. 



Mr. Hees, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, laid before the House, 
— Protocols for the Accession of Israel and Portugal to the General Agreement 
on Tariffs and Trade, done at Geneva on April 6, 1962. (English and French). 



Mr. Hamilton (Notre-Dame-de-Grace), seconded by Mr. Churchill, by 
leave of the House, introduced Bill C-88, An Act to amend the Post Office 
Act, which was read the first time and ordered for a second reading at the 
next sitting of the House. 



On motion of Mr. Howard, seconded by Mr. Peters, it was ordered, — That 
there be laid before this House a copy of all briefs, letters, and submissions 
presented to the government or any agency or branch thereof since January 
22, 1962, dealing with Bill C -3 8. — (Notice of Motion for the Production of 
Papers No. 50). 



Notices of Motions for the Production of Papers (Nos. 52, 55, and 56) 
having been called were allowed to stand at the request of the government. 



382 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

On motion of Mr. Pickersgill, seconded by Mr. Chevrier, it was ordered, 
— That there be laid before this House a copy of a letter addressed to the 
Minister of Citizenship and Immigration on March 5, 1962, by Ian G. Wahn 
of Toronto, regarding the difficulty experienced by two Canadian citizens in 
having their wives admitted to Canada, together with a copy of any acknowl- 
edgment made by the Minister. — (Notice of Motion for the Production of 
Papers No. 53). 

Mr. Fisher, seconded by Mr. Howard, moved, — That an Order of the House 
do issue for a copy of the report of the Committee of Engineers, designated 
as the St. Lawrence River and Montreal Harbour Committee 1950. — (Notice 
of Motion for the Production of Papers No. 54). 

And the question being proposed; 

The honourable Member for Port Arthur (Mr. Fisher) stated that he 
desired a debate on the said motion. 

Ordered, — That the said motion be transferred by the Clerk to the order 
of "Notices of Motions (Papers)" pursuant to Standing Order 47. 

The House resolved itself again into Committee of Ways and Means. 

(In the Committee) 

The following resolution was adopted: 

Resolved, — That towards making good the Supply granted to Her Majesty 
on account of certain expenses of the public service for the fiscal year ending 
March 31st, 1962, the sum of $138,416,981.00 be granted out of the Consolidated 
Revenue Fund of Canada. 

Resolution to be reported. 



The said resolution was reported and concurred in, and the Committee of 
Ways and Means obtained leave to sit again later this day. 

Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), seconded by Mr. MacLean (Queens), by leave 
of the House, presented Bill C-89, An Act for granting to Her Majesty certain 
sums of money for the public service for the financial year ending the 31st 
March, 1962, which was read the first time. 

By unanimous consent, the said bill was read the second time, considered 
in Committee of the Whole, reported without amendment, read the third time 
and passed. 

The House resolved itself again into Committee of Supply. 

(In the Committee) 
The following resolution was adopted: 

INTERIM SUPPLY 

Resolved, — That a sum not exceeding $1,704,710,347.93, being the ag- 
gregate of— 

(a) five- twelfths of the total of the amounts of the Items set forth in 
the Main Estimates for the fiscal year ending March 31st, 1963, laid before the 
House of Commons at the present session of Parliament, $1,666,406,647.92; 



A.D. 1962 WEDNESDAY, 18th APRIL 383 

(b) an additional one-third of the amounts of External Affairs Items 40, 
45, 80, 85, 90, 95, 100, 105, 107, 110, 120, 140 and 145, Finance Items 50 and 
70, Forestry Item 11, Legislation Items 30 and 35, Mines and Technical Surveys 
Item 20, National Defence Item 70, National Film Board Item 5, Privy Council 
Item 40, Public Works Item 200 and Transport Items 65 and 170, of the said 
Estimates, $5,451,575.00; 

(c) an additional one-quarter of the amounts of Forestry Items 5 and 20, 
Northern Affairs and National Resources Item 10, Loans, Investments and 
Advances Items L20 and L25 of the said Estimates, $3,199,700.00; 

(d) an additional one-sixth of the amounts of Citizenship and Immigra- 
tion Item 90, Fisheries Items 30 and 45, Legislation Item 25, Mines and Tech- 
nical Surveys Items 30, 35, 80 and 130, Northern Affairs and National Resources 
Items 50 and 120, Privy Council Item 30, Transport Items 60, 80, 85 and 125 
of the said Estimates, $4,550,983.34; 

(e) an additional one- twelfth of the amounts of External Affairs Item 
35, Fisheries Items 25, 85 and 90, Forestry Items 15 and 25, Labour Items 5' 
and 40, Mines and Technical Surveys Items 40, 50, 70 and 100, National 
Defence Item 45, National Film Board Item 1, National Health and Welfare 
Item 25, National Research Council Item 1, National Revenue Item 5, Northern 
Affairs and National Resources Items 15, 20, 25, 45, 70, 75, 100, 108 and 118, 
Public Works Item 190, Trade and Commerce Item 26, Transport Items 30, 
35, 40, 120 and 222, Veterans Affairs Item 60 of the said Estimates, 
$25,101,441.67, 

be granted to Her Majesty on account of the fiscal year ending March 31st, 
1963. 

Resolution to be reported. 



The said resolution was reported and concurred in, and the Committee of 
Supply obtained leave to sit again at the next sitting of the House. 



The House resolved itself again into Committee of Ways and Means. 

(In the Committee) 

The following resolution was adopted: 

Resolved, — That towards making good the Supply granted to Her Majesty 
on account of certain expenses of the public service for the fiscal year ending 
March 31st, 1963, the sum of $1,704,710,347.93 be granted out of the Con- 
solidated Revenue Fund of Canada, as set forth in the resolution concurred 
in this day in the Committee of Supply. 

Resolution to be reported. 



The said resolution was reported and concurred in, and the Committee 
of Ways and Means obtained leave to sit again at the next sitting of the House. 



384 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

Mr. Fleming (Eglinton), seconded by Mr. Churchill, by leave of the House, 
presented Bill C-90, An Act for granting to Her Majesty certain sums of money 
for the public service for the financial year ending the 31st March, 1963, which 
was read the first time. 

By unanimous consent, the said bill was read the second time, considered 
in Committee of the Whole, reported without amendment, read the third time 
and passed. 



By unanimous consent, Private Members' Business was called. 

(Private Bills) 

Bill SD-2, An Act for the relief of Bruce Reid Campbell, was considered 
in Committee of the Whole, and progress having been made and reported, 
the Committee obtained leave to consider it again at the next sitting of the 
House. 

Mr. Speaker communicated to the House the following letter: 

GOVERNMENT HOUSE 
OTTAWA 

18th April, 1962. 
Sir, 

I have the honour to inform you that the Honourable Patrick Kerwin, P.C., 
Chief Justice of Canada, in his capacity as Deputy of His Excellency the 
Governor-General, will proceed to the Senate Chamber today, the 18th day 
of April at 5.45 p.m., for the purpose of giving Royal Assent to certain bills. 

I have the honour to be, 

Sir, 
Your obedient servant, 

A. G. CHERRIER, 
Assistant Secretary to the Governor-General. 
The Honourable, 

The Speaker of the House of Commons. 



A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Senate had passed the following bills: 

Bill C-89, An Act for granting to Her Majesty certain sums of money 
for the public service for the financial year ending the 31st March, 1962. 

Bill C-90, An Act for granting to Her Majesty certain sums of money 
for the public service for the financial year ending the 31st March, 1963. 



A Message was received from the Honourable Patrick Kerwin, Chief 
Justice of Canada, in his capacity as Deputy of His Excellency the Governor- 
General, desiring the immediate attendance of the House in the Senate Cham- 
ber. 



Accordingly, Mr. Speaker with the House went to the Senate Chamber. 



A.D. 1962 WEDNESDAY, 18th APRIL 385 

And being returned; 



Mr. Speaker reported that, when the House did attend the Honourable 
the Deputy of His Excellency the Governor-General in the Senate Chamber, 
His Honour was pleased to give, in Her Majesty's name, the Royal Assent to 
the following bills: 

An Act to incorporate Brock Acceptance Company. 

An Act to incorporate Gerand Acceptance Company. 

An Act respecting Canada Security Assurance Company. 

An Act to amend the Canada Grain Act. 

An Act respecting The Canadian Indemnity Company and the Canadian 
Fire Insurance Company. 

An Act respecting Reliance Insurance Company of Canada. 

An Act to amend the Representation Act. 

An Act to amend the Veterans' Land Act. 

An Act to provide for the Reporting of Financial and other Statistics 
relating to the Affairs of Corporations and Labour Unions carrying on Activities 
in Canada. 

An Act to incorporate Greymac Mortgage Corporation. 

An Act to amend the Customs Act. 

And Mr. Speaker informed the House that he had addressed the Honour- 
able the Deputy of His Excellency the Governor- General as follows: 

"May it Please Your Honour: 

"The Commons of Canada have voted Supplies required to enable the 
government to defray certain expenses of the public service. 

"In the name of the Commons, I present to Your Honour the following 
bills: 

'An Act for granting to Her Majesty certain sums of money for the public 
service for the financial year ending the 31st March, 1962*. 

'An Act for granting to Her Majesty certain sums of money for the public 
service for the financial year ending the 31st March, 1963\ 

"To which bills I humbly request Your Honour's Assent." 

Whereupon, the Clerk of the Senate, by command of the Deputy of His 
Excellency the Governor-General, did say: 

"In Her Majesty's name, the Honourable the Deputy of His Excellency the 
Governor-General thanks Her Loyal Subjects, accepts their benevolence, and 
assents to these bills." 



By unanimous consent, Mr. Churchill, seconded by Mr. Fleming (Eglin- 
ton), moved, — That when the House adjourns this day it shall stand adjourned 
until Thursday, April 26, 1962. 

And the question being put on the said motion, it was agreed to. 

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386 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Balcer, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Capital and 
Operating Budgets of the Canadian National Railway Company for the year 
ending December 31, 1962, pursuant to section 37 of the Canadian National 
Railways Act, chapter 29, Statutes of Canada, 1955, together with a copy of 
Order in Council P.C. 1962-553, dated April 14, 1962, approving same. 

By Mr. Dorion, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Return to an 
Order of the House, dated July 12, 1961, (*Question No. 453) showing: 1. 
What is the total of Canadian external assistance grants for each year since 
the Second World War? 

2. What percentage of Canada's National Income (or gross national prod- 
uct) was spent on external assistance grants in each year since the Second 
World War? 

3. What is the total of Canadian external assistance loans for each year 
since the Second World War? 

4. What is the total of Canadian external assistance grants and loans for 
each year since the Second World War? 

5. What percentage of Canada's national income (or gross national product) 
was spent on external assistance grants and loans in each year since the 
Second World War? 

By Mr. Dorion, — Return to an Order of the House, dated February 7, 
1962, (Question No. 108) showing: 1. Was or is City Construction Company, 
Limited, of Vancouver, under contract with the Department of Transport for 
the development of Cold Lake Airport, Alberta? 

2. If so, (a) when did contract tenders close (b) when was the contract 
awarded to City Construction Company, Limited (c) was any investigation 
made of this company's financial position before the contract was awarded (d) 
were progress payments made to the company and were they made on the 
strength of statutory declarations and, if so, (i) what were the amounts of 
the progress payments and on what dates were they made (ii) is the gov- 
ernment still in possession of the statutory declarations? 

3. Were progress payments to the company eventually stopped and, if so, 
why, and on what date? 

4. Did the Department of Transport, or any of its officials in Edmonton, 
receive complaints concerning non-payment or slow payment by the company 
to sub-contractors and, if so, (a) on what date was the first complaint or in- 
timation that something was wrong received (b) what action was then taken, 
and on what date or dates? 

5. Did the company make a proposal, or several proposals, under the 
Bankruptcy Act and, if so, (a) to what effect and on what date or dates (b) 
when was the Trustee appointed under the Bankruptcy Act, what is his name, 
and what position, if any, does he hold with the Mercantile Bank (c) has the 



A.D. 1962 WEDNESDAY, 18th APRIL 387 

Trustee submitted to the creditors a statement of the source and application 
of all funds received for the Cold Lake project and, if so, what was the source 
and application of these funds? 

6. Was the company indebted to the Mercantile Bank on December 31, 
1958, and on December 31, 1959, and, if so, what was the amount on both 
dates? 

By Mr. Dorion, — Return to an Order of the House, dated March 28, 1962, 
(Question No. 325) showing: What has been the total expenditure of the 
Department of Transport in the federal Electoral District of Peterborough in 
each of the past 10 years? 

By Mr. Dorion, — Return to an Order of the House, dated April 2, 1962, 
(Question No. 378) showing: 1. What is the volume and classification of 
traffic that made use of the two locks in the Trent Canal System at Fenelon 
Falls, Ontario, in 1961? 

2. What is the maximum and minimum drafts of the boats which made 
use of these locks in 1961? 

3. What is the total estimated cost of the lock now under construction 
to replace the two present locks? 

By Mr. Dorion, — Return to an Order of the House, dated April 9, 1962, 
(Question No. 406) showing: 1. What medical services are available to the 
Indians on (a) Halfway Reserve (b) Blueberry Reserve (c) Prophet River 
Reserve (d) Doig River Reserve? 

2. What transportation facilities are available to and from the above 
Reserves? 

3. How often and for how long has the Indian Agent at Fort Saint John 
visited each of the above Reserves during the year 1961? 

By Mr. Fulton, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Report, dated 
March 23, 1962, of the Restrictive Trade Practices Commission, under the 
Combines Investigation Act, on an Inquiry into the Distribution and Sale of 
Automotive Oils, Greases, Anti-Freeze, Tires, Batteries, Accessories, and Related 
Products. 

By Mr. Monteith (Perth), a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, by 
command of His Excellency the Governor-General, — Report on the Administra- 
tion of Allowances for Blind Persons in Canada for the year ended March 31, 
1961, pursuant to section 12 of the Blind Persons Act, chapter 17, R.S.C., 1952. 
(English and French). 

By Mr. Monteith (Perth), by command of His Excellency the Governor- 
General, — Report on the Administration of Allowances for Disabled Persons 
in Canada for the year ended March 31, 1961, pursuant to section 12 of the 
Disabled Persons Act, chapter 55, Statutes of Canada, 1953-54. (English and 
French). 

By Mr. Monteith (Perth), by command of His Excellency the Governor- 
General, — Report on the Administration of Old Age Assistance in Canada 
for the year ended March 31, 1961, pursuant to section 12 of the Old Age 
Assistance Act, chapter 199, R.S.C., 1952. (English and French). 



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388 HOUSE OF COMMONS 11 ELIZABETH II 

At 6.44 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until Thursday, April 26, 1962, pursuant to Order made this day. 



PROCLAMATION re DISSOLUTION 

* 




GEORGE P. VANIER 
[L.S.] 



CANADA 






ELIZABETH THE SECOND, by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom, 
Canada and Her other Realms and Territories QUEEN, Head of the 
Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith. 

To Our Beloved and Faithful the Senators of Canada, and the Members 
elected to serve in the House of Commons of Canada, and to all whom it 
may concern, — 

Greeting: 
A PROCLAMATION 

WHEREAS We have thought fit, by and with the advice and consent of 
Our Prime Minister of Canada, to DISSOLVE the present Parliament of 
Canada. 

Now Know Ye, that We do for that end publish this Our Royal Proclama- 
tion, and do hereby DISSOLVE the said Parliament of Canada accordingly; and 
the Senators and the Members of the House of Commons are discharged from 
their meeting and attendance. 

In Testimony Whereof We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent 
and the Great Seal of Canada to be hereunto affixed. Witness: Our 
Trusty and Well-beloved Major-General George Philias Vanier, 
Companion of Our Distinguished Service Order upon whom We have 
conferred Our Military Cross and our Canadian Forces' Decoration, 
Governor General and Commander-in-Chief of Canada. 

At The Citadel, in Our City of Quebec, this nineteenth day of April in the 
year of Our Lord one thousand nine hundred and sixty-two and in the 
eleventh year of Our Reign. 



By Command, 



JEAN MIQUELON, 
Under Secretary of State. 



GOD SAVE THE QUEEN 



389 



INDEX 

TO THE 

JOURNALS 
OF THE HOUSE OF COMMONS 

(From Thursday, January 18th, 1962, to 
Wednesday, April 18th, 1962, inclusive) 

Volume CVIII One Hundred and Eighth Volume 

10-11 ELIZABETH II 



Address in Reply, Debate on: 

Speech from Throne reported by Mr. Speaker, 2-6. Motion (Mr. Diefen- 
baker), — To give consideration to Speech at next sitting, 6. Address 
in Reply moved and debate adjourned, 17. Debate resumed (1st 
appointed day); amendment (Mr. Pearson), — Failure to bring forward 
policies to deal with real problems confronting this country, do not 
deserve confidence of House of Commons: moved and debate inter- 
rupted, 24-5. Debate resumed, (2nd appointed day) 28. Subamendment 
(Mr. Argue), — Failure to promote planned development of resources, 
sound monetary, fiscal, investment and trade policies: moved and 
negatived on recorded division, 28-9. Debate resumed and interrupted 
(3rd appointed day), 32. Debate resumed (4th appointed day), 34; 
amendment negatived on recorded division, 34-5. Debate resumed 
(5th appointed day) and interrupted, 143. Debate resumed (6th ap- 
pointed day), 145. Amendment (Mr. Peters), — Failure to give agricul- 
tural producers proper and countervailing power in marketplace 
through providing National Marketing Boards: moved and negatived 
on recorded division, 146-7. Debate interrupted, 147. Debate resumed 
(7th appointed day) and interrupted, 149-50. Debate resumed (eighth 
and final appointed day), 152. Main motion agreed to, 152. Motion for 
engrossing and presenting to Governor General, 152. (Letter of 
acknowledgment not received.) 

391 



392 HOUSE OF COMMONS 10-11 ELIZABETH II 

Accident and Sickness Insurance report: See Insurance, Superintendent of, 1. 

Addresses for the Production of Papers: See Returns Ordered and "Motions for 
Papers" under Procedure. 

Adjournments, Special: 

1. Motion, without notice or debate (on Opening Day), agreed to, — That 
House shall stand adjourned until 2.30 p.m., Friday, Jan. 19th, 8. 

2. Motion, without notice or debate (preceding Dissolution), agreed to, — 
That House shall stand adjourned until Thursday, April 26th, 385. 

See also Procedure; Sittings of the House. 

Adult Education: See Educational assistance. 

Advertising, fraudulent and misleading, survey committee: motion (Mr. MacRae), 
moved and debate interrupted, 176. 

Aeronautics Act Amendment Bill: 

Bill C-35, Mr. Drysdale. 1st R., 23. 2nd R. moved and debate interrupted, 
311. 

Age discrimination: See Fair Employment Practices Bill. 

Agreements, protocols, exchange of notes, treaties, etc.: 

Air services: Exchange of Notes bringing into force agreement with 

Switzerland, 52. Sess. Paper No. 33h. 
Air transport: Agreement with United Mexican States, 52. Sess. Paper 

No. 33j. 
Amateur radio stations: Exchange of Notes with Venezuela constituting 

an agreement permitting exchange of messages from or to third 

parties, 52. Sess. Paper No. 33i. 
Cotton textiles, arrangement re international trade in, 52. Sess. Paper No. 

33e. 
Ghana, Republic of: Technical assistance agreement on military training, 

374. Sess. Paper No. 331. 
Italy, Republic of: Agreement re sale of waste material and scrap belong- 
ing to Command of Royal Canadian Air Force in Italy, 374. Sess. 

Paper No. 33k. 
Japan, arrangement re settlement of certain Canadian claims, 52. Sess. 

Paper No. 33a. 
United States, with: See Canada-United States agreements, notes, etc.; 

Canada-United States Joint Economic and Trade Committee. 
Universal Copyright Convention, done at Geneva Sept. 6th 1952, with 

Protocols 1, 2 and 3 annexed thereto, 30. Sess. Paper No. 187. Printed. 

Motion for approval: Notice called and transferred to Government 

Orders, 24. By unanimous consent, resumption of business of Committee 

of Supply deferred until consideration of Order re approval, 369. 

Motion for approval (Secretary of State), moved, debated, agreed 

to, 369. 
Vienna convention on diplomatic relations, 374. Sess. Paper No. 33n. 
Wheat Agreement, 1962, International, 337. Sess. Paper No. 30b. (Printed 

as appendix to Hansard of April 11th 1962). Motion for approval: 

Notice called and transferred to Government Orders, 367. Moved 

(Minister of Agriculture), debated, agreed to, 376. 



A.D. 1962 INDEX 393 

Agriculture and Colonization Committee: 
Membership: 112, 199. 

Agriculture Department: 

1. Report for 1960-61, 95 (French). Sess. Paper No. 3. Printed. 

2. Order, — Correspondence since Jan. 1st 1958 between Agriculture 
Minister and other persons re operation or plans dealing with illustra- 
tion stations or permanent experimental station in Thunder Bay 
District (more particularly in vicinity of Port Arthur and Fort 
William): Mr. Badanai, 286. Presented, 311. Sess. Paper No. 228. 

Air transport: See under Agreements, protocols, exchange of notes, treaties; 
Canada-United States agreements, notes, etc.; Transport Department. 

Aircraft companies: See Transport Department. 

Airports: See Transport Department. 

Annual Youth Appreciation Week Act Bill: 

Bill C-71, Mr. Smith (Calgary South). 1st R., 163. 

Anthem: See National Sovereignty Bill; Private member's resolutions, 1. 
Appendices: See page following Index and under Procedure. 
Appropriation Bills: See Supply Bills. 
Argentia Ferry Service: See Newfoundland. 
Assent to bills: See Royal Assent. 

Atlantic Citizens Convention: 

Order, — Return re purpose of Convention held in Paris in January, Cana- 
dian delegation, cost to Government, recommendations, etc.: Mr. 
Herridge, 60. Presented, 147. Sess. Paper No. 201. 

See also North Atlantic Treaty Organization. 

Atlantic Provinces Power Development Act: 

Report of proceedings for 1960-61, 373. Sess. Paper No. 113. 

Auditor-General: 

Report for 1960-61, 49. Sess. Paper No. 34a. 

Auditors reports: See under names of particular crown corporations and Public 
Accounts of Canada. 

B 

Bank of Canada: 

1. Report and statement of accounts, certified by auditors, for 1961, 227. 
Sess. Paper No. 35. Printed. 

2. Motion, — That report and statement of accounts for 1961, laid before 
House on March 12th 1962, be referred to Banking and Commerce 
Committee: Notice called and transferred to Government Orders, 238. 



394 HOUSE OF COMMONS 10-11 ELIZABETH II 

Bank reports: 

1. Classification of loans and deposits of chartered banks as at Sept. 
30th 1961, 13. Sess. Paper No. 37. 

2. List of shareholders in chartered banks as at end of financial year 
ended in 1961, 86. Sess. Paper No. 38. 

3. List of shareholders in banks incorporated under Quebec Savings 
Banks Act as at end of financial year ended in 1961, 86. Sess. Paper 
No. 40. (French). 

4. Statement showing current operating earnings and expenses of char- 
tered banks for 1961, 95. Sess. Paper No. 36. 

5. Unclaimed balances in chartered banks as at Dec. 31st 1961, 165. Sess. 
Paper No. 39. 

6. Unclaimed balances in banks incorporated under Quebec Savings 
Banks Act as at Dec. 31st 1961, 165. Sess. Paper No. 41. 

Banking and Commerce Committee: 

1. Membership: 111,199,251. 

2. Bills referred: Mutual Life Assurance Company, Westmount Life 
Insurance Company, 182; Muttart Mortgage Corporation Ltd., Sun 
Life Assurance Company of Canada, 200; Brock Acceptance Limited, 
Gerand Acceptance Company, 252; Canada Security Assurance Com- 
pany, 282; Canadian Indemnity Company, 300; Reliance Insurance 
Company of Canada, Greymac Mortgage Corporation, 310. 

3. Reports: First (quorum, printing, sitting), 205; Second (Mutual Life 
Assurance Company, Westmount Insurance Company, Muttart Develop- 
ment Corporation, Sun Life Assurance Company Bills), 233; Third 
(Brock Acceptance Company, Gerand Acceptance Company, Canada 
Security Assurance Company, Canadian Indemnity Company Bills), 
319; Fourth (Reliance Insurance Company Bill), 319; Fifth (Greymac 
Mortgage Corporation Bill), 349. 

4. Reports concurred in: First, without notice or debate, 205. 
See also Bank of Canada, 2; Private Members' Resolutions, 17. 

Bankruptcy Act: 

1. Order in Council P.C. 1961-1683 amending Order in Council P.C. 
1954-1976 by substituting new Rule No. 108, 14. Sess. Paper No. 76a. 
Printed. 

2. Order in Council P.C. 1962-371, amending Order in Council P.C. 
1954-1976 of Dec. 16th 1954, as amended by substituting new Rule 
No. 53 of Bankruptcy Rules, 318. Sess. Paper No. 76b. 

Bankruptcy Act Amendment Bill: 

Bill C-27, Mr. Argue (wage earners' assignments). 1st R., 22. Order for 
2nd R. not proceeded with, dropped to foot of list on Order Paper, 271. 

Bilingual negotiable instruments: See Financial Administration Act Amendment 
Bill; Negotiable Instruments in English and French Act Bill. 

Bill of Rights Act Amendment: 

Bill C-4, Mr. Pickersgill (naturalized citizens). 1st R., 20. 2nd R. moved 
and debate interrupted, 54-5. 

Bills of Exchange Act Amendment Bill: 

Bill C-45, Mr. Peters (instalment purchases). 1st R., 28. 



A.D. 1962 INDEX 395 

Bills, Private: 

See also titles of particular bills and under Divorce bills and petitions. 

1. Brock Acceptance Limited (Bill S-9) — Mr. Smith (Winnipeg North). 

2. Canada Security Assurance Company (Bill S-14) — Mr. Stefanson. 

3. Canadian Indemnity Company (Bill S-15) — Mr. Smith (Winnipeg 
North). 

4. Canadian Pacific Railway Company (Bill S-17) — Mr. Stewart. 

5. Cochin Pipe Lines Ltd. (Bill S-6) — Mr. Nugent. 

6. Evangelical Mennonite Mission Conference (Bill S-5) — Mr. Muir 
(Lisgar). 

7. Gerand Acceptance Company (Bill S-10) — Mr. Smith (Winnipeg 

North). 

8. Greymac Mortgage Corporation (Bill S-18) — Mr. McCleave. 

9. Muttart Mortgage Corporation (Bill S-7) — Mr. Moloney. 

10. Mutual Life Assurance Company of Canada (Bill S-3) — Mr. Weichel. 

11. Polaris Pipe Lines (Bill S-13) — Mr. Baldwin. 

12. Reliance Insurance Company of Canada (Bill S-12) — Mr. Lafreniere. 

13. Salvation Army, Governing Council of (Bill S-ll) — Mr. Wratten. 

14. Sun Life Assurance Company of Canada (Bill S-8) — Mr. Lafreniere. 

15. United Church of Canada (Bill S-16) — Mr. Morton. 

16. Westmount Life Insurance Company (Bill S-4) — Mr. Webster. 

Bills, Public: 

See also under titles of particular bills. 

1. Aeronautics Act Amendment (Bill C-35) — Mr. Drysdale. 

2. Annual Youth Appreciation Week (Bill C-71) — Mr. Smith (Calgary 
South). 

3. Bankruptcy Act Amendment (wage earners' assignments) (Bill 
C-27)— Mr. Argue. 

4. Bill of Rights Act Amendment (naturalized citizens) (Bill C-4) — 
Mr. Pickersgill. 

5. Bills of Exchange Act Amendment (instalment purchases) (Bill C-45) 
— Mr. Peters. 

6. Blind Persons Act Amendment (Bill C-56) — The Minister of National 
Health and Welfare. 

7. British North America Act Amendment (representation in Senate for 
Territories) (Bill C-28)— Mr. Nielsen. 

8. British North America Act Amendment (redistribution) (Bill C-47) — 
Mr. Fisher. 

9. British North America Act Amendment (retirement of Senators) 
(Bill C-86) — The Prime Minister. 

10. Broadcasting Act Amendment (human rights abuses remedied) (Bill 
C-32)— Mr. Herridge. 

11. Canadian National Railway Company (Optic Lake to Chisel Lake) 
(Bill C-48) — The Minister of Transport. 

12. Canadian National Railway Company (Whitecourt) (Bill C-63) — The 
Minister of Transport. 

13. Canadian National Railway Company (Matane-Ste. Anne des Monts) 
(Bill C-67) — The Minister of Transport. 

14. Children of War Dead (Education Assistance) Act Amendment (Bill 
C-65) — The Minister of Veterans Affairs. 

15. Civilian War Pensions and Allowances Act Amendment (Bill C-64) 
— The Minister of Veterans Affairs. 



396 HOUSE OF COMMONS 10-11 ELIZABETH II 

Bills, Public — (Continued) 

16. Coastal Fisheries Protection Act Amendment (twelve mile fishing 
zone) (Bill C-3) — Mr. Howard. 

17. Companies Act Amendment (financial statements) (Bill C-58) — Mr. 
Broome. 

18. Company Directors (directors' qualifications) (Bill C-59) — Mr. Broome. 

19. Copyright Act, 1961 (Bill C-70)— Miss LaMarsh. 

20. Corporations and Labour Unions Returns (Bill C-38) — The Minister 
of Justice. 

21. Court of Indian Claims (Bill C-81)— Mr. Howard. 

22. Criminal Code Amendment (capital punishment) (Bill C-12) — Mr. 
McGee. 

23. Criminal Code Amendment (nuisance) (Bill C-13) — Mr. Herridge. 

24. Criminal Code Amendment (corporal punishment) (Bill C-22) — Mr. 
McGee. 

25. Criminal Code Amendment (trading stamps) (Bill C-24) — Mr. Howard. 

26. Criminal Code Amendment (capital punishment, form of sentence) 
(Bill C-69) — Miss LaMarsh. 

27. Crown Corporations Administration (Bill C-72) — Mr. Bourbonnais. 

28. Customs Act Amendment (Bill C-79) — The Minister of National 
Revenue. 

29. Disabled Persons Act Amendment (Bill C-62) — The Minister of 
National Health and Welfare. 

30. Divorce (Annulment and Dissolution of Marriage) (Bill C-43) — Mr. 
Peters. 

31. Elections Act Amendment (age of voters) (Bill C-16) — Mr. Howard. 

32. Elections Act Amendment (campaign contributions) (Bill C-34) — Mr. 
McGee. 

33. Electoral Boundaries Commission (Bill C-87) — The Prime Minister. 

34. Energy Board Act Amendment (drainage works) (Bill C-33) — Mr. 
Thomas. 

35. Exchequer Court Divorce Jurisdiction (Bill C-40) — Mr. Peters. 

36. Export Credits Insurance Act Amendment (Bill C-68) — The Minister 
of Trade and Commerce. 

37. Expropriation Act Amendment (Bill C-52) — Mr. Martin (Essex East). 

38. Fair Employment Practices Act Amendment (age discrimination) 
(Bill C-29)— Mr. Howard. 

39. Farm Improvement Loans Act Amendment (Bill C-73) — The Minister 
of Finance. 

40. Financial Administration Act Amendment (bilingual negotiable instru- 
ments) (Bill C-10) — Mr. Boulanger. 

41. Fisheries Improvement Loans Act Amendment (Bill C-74) — The 
Minister of Finance. 

42. Flag of Canada (Bill C-31)— Mr. Boulanger. 

43. Grain Act Amendment (rapeseed and mustard seed) (Bill C-15) 
— Mr. Rapp. 

44. Grain Act Amendment (rapeseed and mustard seed) (Bill S-19) 
— The Minister of Agriculture. 

45. Hospital Sweepstakes (Bill C-2) — Mr. Browne (Vancouver-Kings way). 

46. House of Commons Act Amendment (Internal Economy autonomy) 
(Bill C-17)— Mr. Howard. 

47. House of Commons Act Amendment (election writs for by-elections) 
(Bill C-20)— Mr. Pickersgill. 

48. Income Tax Act Amendment (Bill C-82) (introduced but not read 
first time) — Mr. Howard. 



A.D. 1962 INDEX 397 

Bills Public — (Continued) 

49. Indian Act Amendment (liquor rights) (Bill C-26) — Mr. Howard. 

50. Industrial Relations and Disputes Investigation Act Amendment (Bill 
C-5) — Mr. Howard. 

51. Industrial Relations and Disputes Investigation Act Amendment (ap- 
plication to Civil Service) (Bill C-ll) — Mr. Howard. 

52. Interest Act Amendment (finance charges) (Bill C-6) — Mr. Nasserden. 

53. Interest Act Amendment (12 per cent) (Bill C-8) — Mr. Argue. 

54. Judges Act Amendment (Bill C-84) — The Minister of Justice. 

55. Juvenile Delinquents Act Amendment (Bill C-57) — Mr. Broome. 

56. Lottery (Bill C-30)— Mr. Pigeon. 

57. Merchant Seamen Compensation Act Amendment (Bill C-39) — Mr. 
Carter. 

58. Minimum Wage (Bill C-42) — Mr. Peters. 

59. National Sovereignty (Bill C-25) — Mr. Allard. 

60. Negotiable Instruments in English and French (Bill C-18) — Mr. 
Pigeon. 

61. Oaths of Office (pro forma Bill C-l) — The Prime Minister. 

62. Old Age Assistance Act Amendment (Bill C-55) — The Minister of 
National Health and Welfare. 

63. Old Age Security Act Amendment (Bill C-54)— The Minister of 
National Health and Welfare. 

64. Parliamentary Proctor and Costs Taxation (Bill C-41) — Mr. Peters. 

65. Pension Act Amendment (judicial appeal) (Bill C-21) — Mr. Mcintosh. 

66. Post Office Act Amendment (Bill C-88) — The Postmaster General. 

67. Public Construction, Goods and Services (Bill C-77) — Mr. Broome. 

68. Public Contract Delivery (Bill C-76) — Mr. Broome. 

69. Public Service Pension Adjustment Act Amendment (to include provi- 
dent fund pensioners) (Motion for introduction, withdrawn) — Mr. 
Creaghan. 

70. Railway Act Amendment (abandonment) (Bill C-7) — Mr. Thomas. 

71. Railway Act Amendment (trucking appeals) (Bill C-9) — Mr. Browne 
( Vancouver-Kingsway) . 

72. Representation Act Amendment (Mackenzie River constituency, re- 
naming Northwest Territories) (Bill C-14) — Mr. Nielsen. 

73. Representation Act Amendment (Halifax constituency, renaming 
Halifax-Dartmouth and County) (Bill C-44) — Mr. Morris. 

74. Representation Act Amendment (Nanaimo constituency, renaming 
Nanaimo-Cowichan-The Islands) (Bill C-46) — Mr. Matthews. 

75. Representation Act Amendment (Inverness-Richmond constituency, 
renaming Inverness-Richmond-West Cape Breton) (Bill C-60) — Mr. 
MacLellan. 

76. St. Lawrence Seaway Authority Act Amendment (Bill C-66) — The 
Minister of Transport. 

77. Sir John A. Macdonald Day (Bill C-50)— Mr. Wratten. 

78. Small Businesses Loans Act Amendment (Bill C-49) — The Minister 
of Finance. 

79. Small Loans Act Amendment (1 per cent) (Bill C-19) — Mr. Argue. 

80. Small Loans Act Amendment (advertising) (Bill C-23) — Mr. Argue. 

81. Supply (2nd further supplementary, 1961-62) (Bill C-51)— The 
Minister of Finance. 

82. Supply (3rd further supplementary, 1961-62) (Bill C-78)— The 
Minister of Finance. 



398 HOUSE OF COMMONS 10-11 ELIZABETH II 

Bills, Public — (Concluded) 

83. Supply (1st interim, 1962-63) (Bill C-85) — The Minister of Finance. 

84. Supply (4th further supplementary, 1961-62) (Bill C-89)— The 
Minister of Finance. 

85. Supply (2nd interim, 1962-63) (Bill C-90)— The Minister of Finance. 

86. Trans-Canada Highway Act Amendment (Canada Highways) (Bill 
C-83)— Mr. Howard. 

87. Veterans Insurance Act Amendment (Bill C-37) — The Minister of 
Veterans Affairs. 

88. Veterans' Land Act Amendment (Bill C-80) — The Minister of Veterans 
Affairs. 

89. War Measures Act Amendment (Bill C-53) — Mr. Martin (Essex East). 

90. War Service Grants Act Amendment (Bill C-36) — The Minister of 
Veterans Affairs. 

91. Wheat Board (constitution and powers) (Bill C-61) — Mr. Ormiston. 

92. Wheat Board Act Amendment (Bill C-75) — The Minister of Agricul- 
ture. 

Bills, titles amended: See Procedure, 34. 

Blind Persons Act: 

Report on administration of allowances for 1960-61, 387. Sess. Paper No. 
99. Printed. 

Blind Persons Act Amendment Bill: 

Resolution, — To increase to sixty-five dollars per month maximum amount 
of allowance, and to increase total amount of allowable income, etc.: 
House to consider in Committee of the Whole at next sitting, 40. 
Considered in Committee of the Whole, resolution adopted, Bill C-56, 
Minister of National Health and Welfare, 1st R., 83. 2nd R. after debate, 
considered in Committee of the Whole, reported without amendment, 
3rd R., 94. Passed by Senate, 122. R. A., 133. 10-11 Elizabeth II, 
Chapter 2. 

Books, entry banned or prohibited: See National Revenue Department, 2. 

Breakwaters: See Harbours, wharves, 2. 

Bridges: 

Vancouver and Sea Island, consideration to advisability of constructing 
bridge or tunnel connecting: motion (Mr. Drysdale), moved and debate 
interrupted, 333. 

British North America Act Amendment Bills: 

1. Bill C-28, Mr. Nielsen (representation in Senate for Territories). 1st 
R., 22. On Order for 2nd reading, question raised as to whether expendi- 
ture was involved: Mr. Speaker stated bill in itself did not seem to 
involve an expenditure of public funds but that it would set in motion 
another Act which would; and debate arising on the motion; inter- 
rupted, 283-4. 

2. Bill C-47, Mr. Fisher (redistribution). 1st R., 37. 

3. Bill C-86, Prime Minister (retirement of Senators). 1st R. on recorded 
division, 329-30. 

See also Federal-Provincial Relations; Senate Retirement Annuities Act 
Bill. 



A.D. 1962 INDEX 399 

Broadcasting Act Bill: 

Bill C-32, Mr. Herridge (human rights abuses remedied). 1st R., 22. 2nd 
R. moved and debate interrupted, 243. 

Brock Acceptance Limited Act Bill: 

Petition to incorporate received, 86. Reported by Examiner of Petitions, 
135. Bill S-9, Mr. Smith (Winnipeg North). Received from Senate, 
1st R., 239. 2nd R. after debate, referred to Banking and Commerce 
Committee, 252. Reported without amendment, 319. Considered in 
Committee of the Whole, 344, 352. Reported without amendment, 3rd 
R., 352. R. A., 385. 10-11 Elizabeth II, Chapter 42. 

Budget: See Ways and Means. 

Budgets, Capital: See under name of particular agency. 

Bureau of Statistics: See Statistics, Dominion Bureau of. 



Cabinet ministers' expenses: See Travelling expenses. 

Canada Council: 

1. Motion, — That report for 1960-61, laid before House on July 1st 1961, 
be referred to Public Accounts Committee: Notice called and trans- 
ferred to Government Orders, 152. 

2. Motion, — That financial statements and report of Auditor General 
thereon for 1960-61, be referred to Public Accounts Committee: Notice 
called and transferred to Government Orders, 152. 

Canada Court of Indian Claims Act Bill: See Court of Indian Claims Act Bill. 

Canada Divorce Bill: See Divorce Bill. 

Canada Elections Act: See Elections; Elections Act. 

Canada Fair Employment Practices Act Amendment Bill: See Fair Employment 
Practices Act Amendment Bill. 

Canada Gazette, Part II: See Statutory Orders and Regulations. 

Canada Grain Act Amendment Bills: See Grain Act Amendment Bills. 

Canada Security Assurance Company Act Amendment Bill: 

Petition received for Act to amend Act of incorporation, 184. Reported 
by Examiner of Petitions, 227. Bill S-14, Mr. Stefanson. Received from 
Senate, 1st R., 270. 2nd R., referred to Banking and Commerce Com- 
mittee, 282. Reported without amendment, 319. Considered in Com- 
mittee of the Whole, reported without amendment, 3rd R., 352. R. A., 
385. 10-11 Elizabeth II, Chapter 30. 

Canada-United States agreements, notes, etc.: 

1 . Exchange of Notes re disposal of excess U.S. property in Canada, 52. 
Sess. Paper No. 33. 

2. Exchange of Notes re addition of Cape Dyer to Annex to agreement 
relating to Short-Range Tactical Air Navigation (TACAN) Facilities 
in Canada, 52. Sess. Paper No. 33b. 



400 HOUSE OF COMMONS 10-11 ELIZABETH II 

Canada-United States agreements, notes, etc. — (Concluded) 

3. Exchange of Notes re cost-sharing and related arrangements with 
respect to planned improvements in Continental Air Defence System 
(with Annex), 52. Sess. Paper No. 33c. 

4. Exchange of Notes re establishment of Joint Canada-United States 
Committee on Trade and Economic Affairs, 52. Sess. Paper No. 33d. 

5 . Exchange of Notes re dredging in Wolfe Island Cut to improve shipping 
channel, 52. Sess. Paper No. 33/. 

6. Exchange of Notes re dredging in Pelee Passage at Western end of 
Lake Erie, 52. Sess. Paper No. 33g. 

Canada-United States Interparliamentary Group: 

Report of Sixth meeting held in Ottawa, March 1st and 2nd 1962, 193. 
Sess. Paper No. 207. (Printed as appendix to Hansard of March 5th 
1962). 

Canada-United States Joint Economic and Trade Committee: 

Communique issued after meeting held in Ottawa on Jan. 12th and 13th 
1962, 31. Sess. Paper No. 188 (Printed as appendix to Hansard of Jan. 
24th 1962). 

Canada-United States relations: 

Interim report of International Migratory Bird Committee, 205. Sess. Paper 

No. 211. 
See also Canada-United States agreements, notes, etc. 

Canadian Bill of Rights: See Bill of Rights Act Amendment Bill. 

Canadian Broadcasting Corporation: 

1. Return to Order of House, dated Sept. 27th 1961, showing for each 
year from Jan. 1st 1956 to Dec. 31st 1960, hours granted by CBC on 
English and French networks for radio and television broadcasting of 
conventions of political parties, amounts spent, 13. Sess. Paper No. 
110a. 

2. Order, — Return re protests received from La Societe des Amis de 
Maurice-L. Duplessis, when received, to whom sent, etc.: Mr. Fisher, 
79-80. Presented, 231. Sess. Paper No. 216. 

See also Television. 

Canadian Conference of the Arts: 

Order, — Return re any aid given, form taken, civil servants or officials 
who attended Conference (1961): Mr. Fisher, 302. Presented, 344. 
Sess. Paper No. 231. 

Canadian Economic Outlook, confidential report: See under Trade and Commerce 
Department, 3. 

Canadian Fire Insurance Company Act Amendment Bill: See Canadian Indemnity 
Company Act Amendment Bill. 

Canadian Forces Voting: See Elections, 1. 



A.D. 1962 INDEX 401 

Canadian Indemnity Company Act Amendment Bill: 

Petition received for amalgamation of Canadian Indemnity Company and 
Canadian Fire Insurance Company, 184-5. Reported by Examiner of 
Petitions, 249. Bill S-15, Mr. Smith (Winnipeg North). Received 
from Senate, 1st R., 289. 2nd R. after debate and referred to Banking 
and Commerce Committee, 299-300. Reported without amendment, 319. 
Considered in Committee of the Whole, 3rd R., 352. R. A., 385. 10-11 
Elizabeth II, Chapter 31. 

Canadian National Railways: 

1. Annual report, auditor's report and securities trust report for 1961, 
254. Sess. Paper Nos. 152 (printed), 155 (printed), 157. 

2. Capital and operating budgets for 1962, 386. Sess. Paper No. 154. 

3. Orders in Council entrusting with management and operation of M.V. 
"Petite Forte", 10; management of 14.84 acres in Moncton, N.B., 
required by National Defence Department for Garrison Barracks Site, 
11; management of railway approaches, together with line of railway 
extending across Strait of Canso between Cape Breton Island and 
mainland of Nova Scotia, 11. Sess. Paper Nos. 156a, 156b, 156c. 

4. Order in Council withdrawing from entrustment parcel of Canadian 
Government Railways' land in St. John's, Nfld., 348. Sess. Paper No. 
156d. 

5. Order in Council approving by-law No. 54 amending Rule of CNR 
Pension Plan, 359. Sess. Paper No. 152a. 

6. Report re branch lines in St. Felicien-Beattyville-Chibougamau, 44. 
Sess. Paper No. 153. 

7 . Report re branch line from Optic Lake to Chisel Lake, and purchase of 
line from Sipiwesk to Burntwood River near Mystery Lake, 44. Sess. 
Paper No. 153a. 

8. Report re branch line from Grimshaw, Alberta, to Great Slave Lake, 
Northwest Territories, 44. Sess. Paper No. 153b. 

9. Report re branch lines from Kiask Falls Subdivision to Mattagami 
Lake Mines, Township of Galinee, Que., 85. Sess. Paper No. 153c. 

10. Report re terminal facilities in vicinity of Toronto, 85. Sess. Paper 
No. 158. 

11. Report re terminal facilities in vicinity of Montreal, 85. Sess. Paper 
No. 151. 

12. Draft arrangement under which Company will act as agent for con- 
struction, etc., of Gaspe railway, under Bill C-67, 219. Sess. Paper 
No. 213. 

13. Agreement, dated July 22nd 1909 re Matane and Gaspe Railway Com- 
pany, 219. Sess. Paper No. 213a. 

14. Order, — Return showing if between Sept. 1st 1957-1961, any depart- 
ment or minister exchanged correspondence with J. P. Boisjoly Indus- 
tries Limitee re acquisition by said company of old rails of CNR 
located at Ste. Philomene, Chateauguay County, terms of letters, 
departments: Mr. Brassard (Lapointe), 164. 

15. Order, — Correspondence between any department or minister and 
J. P. Boisjoly Industries Limitee, from Sept. 1st 1957-61 re purchase 
of rails from CNR at Sainte-Philomene, Chateauguay County, P.Q.: 
Mr. Brassard (Lapointe), 176. 

16. Order, — Return re J.-Louis Levesque, Director of CNR, educational 
qualifications, positions or directorships with other companies, etc.: 
Mr. Fisher, 303. 



402 HOUSE OF COMMONS 10-11 ELIZABETH II 

Canadian National Railways Branch Line Bills: 

1 . Bill C-48, Minister of Transport. Act to amend Act re construction 
of line from Optic Lake to Chisel Lake, and purchase by CNR of 
line from Sipiwesk to Burntwood River near Mystery Lake, Manitoba. 
1st R., 39. 2nd R. after debate, referred to Railways, Canals and Tele- 
graph Lines Committee, 99-100. Reported without amendment, 130. 
Committee evidence and proceedings recorded as Appendix 1 to 
Journals, 130. Considered in Committee of the Whole, 139, 140. Reported 
without amendment, 3rd R., 140. Passed by Senate, 152. R. A., 161. 
10-11 Elizabeth II, Chapter 8. 

2. Resolution, — To provide that CNR may construct a line of railway in 
Alberta from Whitecourt to Pan American Petroleum Corporation's 
property; to authorize Company to issue securities to finance ex- 
penditures; to authorize temporary loans to Company: House to con- 
sider in Committee of the Whole at next sitting, 40-1. Considered 
in Committee of the Whole, resolution adopted, 99. Bill C-63, Minister 
of Transport. 1st R., 99. 2nd R. after debate, referred to Railways, 
Canals and Telegraph Lines Committee, 105. Reported without amend- 
ment, 130. Committee evidence and proceedings recorded as Appendix 

1 to Journals, 130. Considered in Committee of the Whole, reported 
without amendment, 3rd R., 139. Passed by Senate with an amendment, 
150. Senate amendment agreed to, 158. R. A., 161. 10-11 Elizabeth II, 
Chapter 9. 

3 . Resolution, — To provide for construction of a line of railway in Quebec, 
between Matane and Ste-Anne des Monts, etc.: House to consider in 
Committee of the Whole at next sitting, 97-8. Considered in Com- 
mittee of the Whole, resolution adopted, 106. Bill C-67, Minister of 
Transport. 1st R., 106. 2nd R. after debate, referred to Railways, 
Canals and Telegraph Lines Committee, 158. Reported without amend- 
ment, 181. Committee evidence and proceedings recorded as Appendix 

2 to Journals, 181. Considered in Committee of the Whole, 208, 219. 
Reported without amendment, 219. 3rd R. moved, 219; amendment 
(Mr. Fisher), — To defer and refer back to Committee of the Whole 
with instructions to add coming into force clause: moved and ruled 
out of order, 220. 3rd R. debate resumed, 224; amendment (Mr. 
Regier), — This day six months: moved and negatived on recorded 
division, 224-5. 3rd R., 225. Passed by Senate, 270. R. A., 272. 10-11 
Elizabeth II, Chapter 13. 

Canadian National (West Indies) Steamships Limited: 
Report for 1961, 259. Sess. Paper No. 159. 

Canadian Overseas Telecommunication Corporation: 

Capital budget for 1962-63, 306. Sess. Paper No. 160a. 

Canadian Pacific Railway Company: 

1. Lands sold during year ended Sept. 30th 1961, 10. Sess. Paper No. 161. 

2. Order, — Return showing if Transport Department requested CPR to 
remove trestle across False Creek, Vancouver, B.C., depth of water, 
cost of removal, etc.: Mr. Taylor, 303. 

Canadian Pacific Railway Company Act Bill: 

Petition received for Act to vest in Company railways, undertakings, assets 
and liabilities of certain companies, 185. Reported by Examiner of 
Petitions, 265. Bill S-17, Mr. Stewart. Received from Senate, 1st R., 



A.D. 1962 INDEX 403 

Canadian Pacific Railway Company Act Bill — (Concluded) 

299. 2nd R. after debate and referred to Railways, Canals and Tele- 
graph Lines Committee, 311. Reported without amendment, 319. Placed 
forthwith on Order Paper, 320. Considered in Committee of the Whole, 
reported without amendment, 3rd R., 321. R. A., 323. 10-11 Elizabeth 
II, Chapter 38. 

Canadian Peace Research Institute: 

Order, — Return showing any discussions with Dr. Norman Z. Alcock re 
formation of Canadian Peace Research Institute, request for aid, 
decision: Mr. Argue, 57. Presented, 107. Sess. Paper No. 193. 

Canadian Pension Commission: See Pension Commission. 

Canadian Preference: See Public Construction, Goods and Services Bill. 

Canadian Wheat Board: See Wheat Board. 

Capital Budgets: See under name of particular agency. 

Capital Plan: See National Capital Commission. 

Capital punishment: See Criminal Code Amendment Bills, 1,5. 

Canals: 

1 . Order, — Return showing volume of water passing through Trent Water- 
way at nearest point to Peterborough: Mr. Pitman — presented forth- 
with, 256. Sess. Paper No. 221. 

2. Order, — Return showing volume and classification of traffic that made 
use of two locks in Trent Canal System at Fenelon Falls, Ont., in 1961, 
maximum and minimum drafts of boats, estimated cost of lock under 
construction: Mr. McWilliam, 304. Presented, 387. Sess. Paper No. 
221a. 

See also under particular titles. 

Casualty Insurance report. Fire and: See Insurance, Superintendent of, 1. 
Causeways: See Harbours, wharves, 2. 

Centennial Observances: 

Motion (Mr. Taylor), — Consider advisability of grant for construction of 
coliseum in Vancouver: moved and debate interrupted, 60. 

Central Mortgage and Housing Corporation: 

1. Report, together with statement certified by auditors, for 1961, 272-3. 
Sess. Paper No. 129. 

2. Capital budget for 1962, 184. Sess. Paper No. 129c. 

3. Second revised capital budget for 1961, 49. Sess. Paper No. 129a. 

4. Order, — Return re names, locations, etc., of each servicemen's and 
veterans Housing project administered by CMHC; number sold, rented; 
sales rebate policy, etc.: Mr. Broome, 98. Presented, 161-2. Sess. Paper 
No. 129b. 

5. Order, — Return showing names and addresses of legal advisers to 
CMHC in Peterborough Electoral District in years 1953 to 1961, fees 
paid: Mr. Pitman, 194. 



404 HOUSE OF COMMONS 10-11 ELIZABETH II 

Chairman of Committees of the Whole House: See Committees of the Whole House; 
Speaker's rulings and statements. 

Chartered Banks: See Bank reports. 

Cheques: 

Order, — Return re number of cheque forms printed in English available 
to Treasury Board, not delivered, price, etc.: Mr. Denis, 98. Presented, 
141. Sess. Paper No. 197. 

Chief Electoral Officer: See Elections; Elections Act; Representation Act. 

Chignecto canal project: 

1 . Return to Order of House, dated September 25th 1961, for communica- 
tions received by Public Works Minister, since July 1st 1961 re survey 
of proposed Chignecto Canal, together with replies, 12. Sess. Paper 
No. 182a. 

2. Return to Order of House, dated Sept. 27th 1961, showing date on 
which Federal Government agreed to participate in survey of feasibility 
and cost of Chignecto Canal, etc., 13. Sess. Paper No. 182. 

Children of War Dead (Education Assistance) Act Amendment Bill: 

Resolution, — To clarify definition of "student"; to extend benefits, educa- 
tion-assistance period, age-limit at which benefits will cease, etc.: 
House to consider in Committee of the Whole at next sitting, 24. 
Considered in Committee of the Whole, resolution adopted, 101. Bill 
C-65, Minister of Veterans Affairs. 1st R., 101. 2nd R. after debate, 
considered in Committee of the Whole, reported without amendment, 
131. 3rd R., 139. Passed by Senate, 152. R. A., 161. 10-11 Elizabeth 
II, Chapter 10. 

China, Wheat Agreements and Contracts: See Wheat Board, 3, 4. 

Chown, Gordon C, Esq., M.P.: 

Appointed Deputy Chairman of Committees of the Whole House, 8. 

Citizenship and Immigration Department: 

1. Report for 1960-61, 107. Sess. Paper No. 15. Printed. 

2. Order, — Copy of letter addressed to Citizenship and Immigration 
Minister on March 5th 1962 by Ian G. Wahn, Toronto, re difficulty 
of two Canadian citizens in having wives admitted to Canada, to- 
gether with reply: Mr. Pickersgill, 382. 

Civil Defence: See Defence. 

Civil Service Commission: 

1 . Positions excluded from operation of Civil Service Act, 140. Sess. 
Paper No. 134. 

2. Order, — Return showing number of applications received for summer 
employment under Competition 62-50, representations, academic quali- 
fications, etc.: Mr. Pitman, 256. Presented, 334. Sess. Paper No. 133b. 

3 . Reports affecting parliamentary staff: See House of Commons; Library 
of Parliament; Parliamentary Restaurant. 

See also Government departments, 2 re Management Analysis Division; 
Public Service. 



A.D. 1962 INDEX 405 

Civil Service Regulations: See Statutory Orders and Regulations, 3. 

Civilian War Pensions and Allowances Act Amendment Bill: 

Resolution, — To permit payment of allowances to surviving former mem- 
bers and to certain dependants of deceased members of civilian groups 
of Canadians who made outstanding voluntary contributions to war 
effort: House to consider in Committee of the Whole at next sitting, 
23. Considered in Committee of the Whole, 94, 100. Resolution adopted, 
100. Bill C-64, Minister of Veterans Affairs. 1st R., 101. 2nd R. moved 
and debate interrupted, 107. 2nd R. after debate, unanimous on recorded 
division, 121-2. Considered in Committee of the Whole, reported with- 
out amendment, 3rd R., 130. Passed by Senate, 160. R. A., 161. 10-11 
Elizabeth II, Chapter 11. 

See also Pension Act Amendment Bill. 

Clerk of Petitions: 

Reports: 64, 86, 90 (2), 134, 141, 153, 162, 177, 184 (2), 190, 307. 
See also Bills, Private; Divorce Bills and petitions; Miscellaneous Private 
Bills Committee; Standing Orders Committee — and under titles of 
particular private bills. 

Closure: See Procedure Committee (Motion to Appoint). 

Coal Board: 

Return to Address, dated May 22nd 1961, for communications since July 
1st 1960 with Dominion Steel and Coal Company re possible closing 
of coal mines in Nova Scotia, 165. Sess. Paper No. 92a. 

Coastal Fisheries Protection Act Amendment Bill: 

Bill C-3, Mr. Howard (twelve mile fishing zone). 1st R., 19. 2nd R. moved 
and debate interrupted, 43. 

Cochin Pipe Lines Ltd. Act Bill: 

Petition received to incorporate, 141. Reported by Examiner of Petitions, 
144. Bill S-6, Mr. Nugent. Received from Senate, 1st R., 188. 2nd R. 
after debate, referred to Railways, Canals and Telegraph Lines Com- 
mittee, 200. Reported without amendment but with recommendation 
that for taxing purposes each common share shall be deemed to be 
worth one dollar, 211. Proceedings and evidence recorded as Appendix 
3 to Journals, 211. Recommendation re capital stock charges concurred 
in, 211. Considered in Committee of the Whole, reported without 
amendment, 3rd R., 229. R. A., 272. 10-11 Elizabeth II, Chapter 36. 

Coliseum, Vancouver: See Centennial Observances. 

Columbia River: 

Correspondence between Finance Minister and British Columbia Premier, 
during period Nov. 27th 1961 to Jan. 5th 1962 re Columbia River 
power project, 37. (Printed as appendix to Hansard of Jan. 26th 
1962). 

Combines Investigation Act: 

Report of Director of Investigation and Research for 1960-61, 14. Sess. 

Paper No. 77. Printed. 
See also Restrictive Trade Practices Commission. 



406 HOUSE OF COMMONS 10-11 ELIZABETH II 

Committees of the Whole House: 

1 . Chairman and Deputy Speaker, Paul Martineau, Esq., M. P., appointed 
on motion, on recorded division, 6-7. 

2. Deputy Chairman, Gordon Campbell Chown, Esq., M. P., appointed 
on motion, 8. 

See also Speaker's rulings and statements. 

Committees, Sessional: See Railways, Air Lines and Shipping Committee. 
Committees, Special: See Procedure Committee. 

Committees, Standing: 

1 . Committee appointed to strike standing committees, 6. Report of 
membership, 109-17. Report concurred in, 117. (For list of standing 
committees, see Journals, pages, 109-17). 

2. Powers given to standing committees, 117. 

See also under titles of particular Standing Committees. 

Companies, Sales Tax payments by federal and provincial: 

Return to Order of House, dated Sept. 13th 1961, showing federal crown 
companies which agree to payment of sales taxes imposed by provinces; 
whether Ontario Hydro Power Commission and Liquor Control Board 
of Ontario submit to payment of 11% sales tax of federal government, 
12. Sess. Paper No. 184. 

Companies Act Amendment Bill: 

Bill C-58, Mr. Broome (financial statements). 1st R., 87. 

Company Directors Act Bill: 

Bill C-59, Mr. Broome (directors' qualifications). 1st R., 88. 

Constitutional Amendments: See British North America Act; Federal-Provincial 
relations. 

Continental Shelf: 

Offshore mineral rights, sovereignty over: motion (Mr. Winch), moved 
and debate interrupted, 225-6. 

Co-operative Credit Societies report: See Insurance, Superintendent of, 2. 

Copyright Act, 1961, Bill: 

Bill C-70, Miss LaMarsh, 1st R., 149. 

Copyright Convention: See Agreements, protocols, exchange of notes, treaties, etc. 

Cornwall International Bridge Company Limited: 

Report for year ended Sept. 30th 1961, with auditor's report, 85. Sess. 
Paper No. 162. Printed. 

Corporal punishment: See Criminal Code Amendment Bills, 3. 

Corporations and Labour Unions Returns Act Bill: 

Bill C-38, Minister of Justice. 1st R., 23. 2nd R. moved, 304-5; amendment 
(Mr. Martin, Timmins), — House declines . . . provisions do not provide 
corporations and unions be required to make public contributions to 



A.D. 1962 INDEX 407 

Corporations and Labor Unions Returns Act Bill — (Concluded) 

political parties: moved and ruled out of order, 305-6. 2nd R. after 
debate, 306. Considered in Committee of the Whole, 306, 310, 311, 318, 
321, 323, 325. Reported with amendments, considered as amended, 325. 
3rd R. on recorded division, 333. Passed by Senate, 376. R. A., 385. 
10-11 Elizabeth II, Chapter 26. 
Order, — Copy of all briefs, letters, and submissions presented to govern- 
ment, etc., since Jan. 22nd 1962, dealing with Bill C-38: Mr. Howard, 
381. 

Court of Indian Claims Act Bill: 

Bill C-81, Mr. Martin (Timmins). 1st R., 301. t 

Criminal Code Amendment Bills: 

1. Bill C-12, Mr. McGee (capital punishment). 1st R., 20. 2nd R. moved 
and debate interrupted, 140. 

2. Bill C-13, Mr. Herridge (nuisance). 1st R., 21. 2nd R. moved and 
debate interrupted, 106. 

3. Bill C-22, Mr. McGee (corporal punishment). 1st R., 21. 2nd R. moved 
and debate interrupted, 239. 

4. Bill C-24, Mr. Howard (trading stamps). 1st R., 22. Order for 2nd R. 
not proceeded with, dropped to foot of list on Order Paper, 252. 

5. Bill C-69, Miss LaMarsh (capital punishment, form of sentence). 1st 
R., '149. 

Crown Corporations Administration Act, 1962, Bill: 
Bill C-72, Mr. Bourbonnais. 1st R., 175. 

Crown Corporations (Provincial Tax and Fees) Act Bill: 

Resolution, — To provide for payment of certain provincial taxes and fees 
by Crown Corporations on or after 1st day of April 1962: House to 
consider in Committee of the Whole at next sitting, 98. Considered in 
Committee of the Whole, 201. 

See also Companies, Sales Tax payments by. 

Currency, Mint and Exchange Fund Act: See Exchange Fund Account; Mint, Royal 
Canadian. 

Currency, Mint and Exchange Fund Act Amendment Bill: 

Resolution, — To authorize Minister of Finance to purchase, out of Exchange 
Fund Account maintained under Act, securities of International Mone- 
tary Fund: House to consider in Committee of the Whole at next 
sitting, 34. 

Custodian of Enemy Property: 

Report for 1961, 177. Sess. Paper No. 135. 

Customs Act Amendment Bill: 

Bill C-79, Minister of National Revenue. 1st R., 276. 2nd R. after debate, 
considered in Committee of the Whole, reported without amendment, 
3rd R., 376. Passed by Senate, 381. R. A., 385. 10-11 Elizabeth II, 
Chapter 27. 

Customs Tariff: See Ways and Means, 8 and 9. 



408 HOUSE OF COMMONS 10-11 ELIZABETH II 



Debates Committee: 

Membership: 114, 199. 

Debates, Official Report of. Tape recording of: See Speaker's Rulings and State- 
ments, 11. 

Declaration of Paris: See North Atlantic Treaty Organization. 

Deep Sea Fisheries Act: 

Order in Council authorizing basis of distribution of fishing bounty pay- 
ments for 1960-61, and statement of mode in which bounty payments 
made, 25. Sess. Paper No. 72. 

Defence: 

1 . Order, — Return re "Tocsin B" exercise held in Canada, bombs dropped, 
megatons, extent of simulated attack, estimated effect in terms of 
immediate fall-out, etc.: Mr. Pitman, 41. Presented, 102. Sess. Paper 
No. 191. 

2. Order, — Return re number of men who started, completed, or were 
rejected for Survival Training Course, were unemployed, on munici- 
pal welfare, married, recruited into militia or regular army: Mr. 
Pitman, 58. Presented, 189. Sess. Paper No. 100b. 

3 . Order, — Return showing total amounts spent in all departments during 
1960-61, and 1961-62 to date, on civil defence, survival, emergency 
measures, etc., estimated expenditures for 1962-63: Mr. Martin (Essex 
East), 80. 

4. Order, — Return showing number of persons who took Civil Defence 
Training Course in 1961, etc.: Mr. McMillan, 164. Presented, 189. 
Sess. Paper No. 100a. 

See also Disarmament; National Defence Department. 

Defence Production Department: 

Report for 1961, 300. Sess. Paper No. 23. Printed. 

Dentists, Federally-employed: See Public Service, 2. 

Departments of government: See under inverted names, e.g. National Revenue 
Department; Trade and Commerce Department. 

Deputy Chairman of Committees: See Committees of the Whole House. 

Deputy Speaker: See Committees of the Whole House; Speaker's rulings and 
statements. 

Diplomatic instruments: See Agreements, protocols, exchange of notes, treaties. 

Disabled Persons Act: 

Report on administration of allowances for 1960-61, 387. Sess. Paper No. 
101. Printed. 

Disabled Persons Act Amendment Bill: 

Resolution, — To increase to sixty-five dollars per month maximum amount 
of allowance, and to increase amount of allowable income, etc.: House 
to consider in Committee of the Whole at next sitting, 40. Considered 



A.D. 1962 INDEX 409 

Disabled Persons Act Amendment Bill — (Concluded) 

in Committee of the Whole, 88, 90, 93. Resolution adopted, 93. Bill 
C-62, Minister of National Health and Welfare, 1st R., 93. Pursuant 
to special order, 2nd R. after debate, considered in Committee of 
the Whole, reported without amendment, 94. 3rd R., 99. Passed by 
Senate, 122. R. A., 133. 10-11 Elizabeth II, Chapter 3. 

Disarmament: 

1. Order, — Speech delivered by Secretary of State for External Affairs 
(The Honourable Mr. Green) at Disarmament Conference in Geneva 
to be printed as appendix to Hansard of March 21st 1962, 257. 

2. Statement delivered by General Burns at Geneva Disarmament Con- 
ference, April 12th 1962, 369. (Printed as appendix to Hansard of 
April 16th 1962.) 

See also External Affairs Department; United Nations. 

Divisions, Recorded: 

1. Motion (Mr. Diefenbaker) for appointment of Chairman of Com- 
mittees of the Whole House, adopted, 7. 

2. Subamendment (Mr. Argue) to Motion for Address in Reply, nega- 
tived, 28-9. 

3. Amendment (Mr. Pearson) to Motion for Address in Reply, nega- 
tived, 34-5. 

4. Notices of Motions (papers): (Mr. Howard) for correspondence re 
breadth of territorial sea and proposals for widening, negatived, 88-9. 

5. Motion for an Address for Papers (No. 5, Mr. Mcllraith), re China 
Grain Contract, negatived, 118-9. 

6 . Motion for an Address for Papers (No. 6, Mr. Mcllraith) , re China long- 
term agreement, negatived, 119-20. 

7. Motion (Mr. Churchill), for 2nd reading of Bill C-64 (Civilian War 
Pensions and Allowances), unanimously adopted, 121-2. 

8. Amendment (Mr. Peters) to Motion for Address in Reply, negatived, 
146-7. 

9. Amendment (Miss LaMarsh), to Supply Motion No. 1, negatived, 170. 

10. Subamendment (Mr. Herridge), to Supply Motion No. 1, negatived, 
171. 

11. Chairman's Ruling (Mr. Martineau) in Committee of the Whole on 
an amendment proposed by Mr. Peters to Bill C-49 (Small Businesses 
Loans) appealed to House and ruling confirmed, 195. 

12. Motion for an Order for Papers (No. 26, Mr. Howard), re interdepart- 
mental committee study into recommendations of commission to in- 
quire into certain matters re Indians of Mackenzie District, negatived, 
206-7. 

13. Amendment (Mr. Regier), to supersede motion for 3rd reading of 
Bill C-67 [Canadian National Railway (Matane-Ste. Anne des Monts)] 
by "six months' hoist", negatived, 224-5. 

14. Motion (Mr. Churchill), after Mr. Caron's refusal to withdraw accusa- 
tion that Chairman was displaying partiality, "That honourable Mem- 
ber for Hull be suspended for remainder of this day's sitting", agreed 
to, 241-2. 

15. Motion [Mr. Churchill for Mr. Hamilton (Qu'Appelle)], for 2nd 
reading of Bill C-75 (Wheat Board), unanimously adopted, 281-2. 

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410 HOUSE OF COMMONS 10-11 ELIZABETH II 

Divisions, Recorded — (Concluded) 

16. Motion (Mr. Howard), for 1st reading of Bill C-82 (Income 
Tax), negatived, 301-2. 

17. Motion for an Order for Papers (No. 43, Mr. Howard), re proposed 
timber sale on Tsimpsean Indian Reserve No. 2, negatived, 316-7. 

18. Motion (Mr. Diefenbaker) for 1st reading of Bill C-86 (British North 
America Act Amendment — Senate), adopted, 329-30. 

19. Motion (Mr. Churchill for Mr. Fulton) for 3rd reading of Bill C-38 
(Corporations and Labour Unions Returns), adopted, 333-4. 

20. Notices of Motions (papers): (Mr. Howard) for correspondence re 
timber sales situated on Tsimpsean Indian Reserve No. 2, negatived, 
346-7. 

21 . Chairman's Ruling (Mr. Martineau) in Committee of Supply on Vote 
730, Further Supplementary Estimates (4), 1961-62, appealed to 
House (Mr. Herridge) and ruling confirmed, 351. 

22. Motion (Mr. McCleave) for 2nd reading of Bill SD-1 (Hankowski), 
adopted, 353. 

23. Motion (Mr. McCleave) for 2nd reading of Bill SD-2 (Campbell), 
adopted, 353-4. 

24. Motion (Mr. McCleave) for 2nd reading of Bill SD-3 (Watt), adopted, 
354-5. 

Divorce Act Bill: 

Bill C-43, Mr. Peters. 1st R., 27. 

See also Exchequer Court Divorce Jurisdiction; Parliamentary Proctor and 
Costs Taxation. 

Divorce bills and petitions: 

1. Abbott, Margaret Ellynore— Bill SD-106: 64, 154, 267-8. 

2. Abrams, Carmen— Bill SD-273: 177, 227, 371-3. 

3. Adams, Dorothy Irene Marjorie— Bill SD-90: 64, 123, 199. 

4. Agai, Agnes— Bill SD-306: 153, 227, 376-8. 

5. Alie, Marilyn Jean Moore: 177. 

6. Almyriotis, Demetre— Bill SD-19: 64, 123, 131. 

7. Altmeppen, Heinrich Bernhard: 177. 

8. Anderson, John Andre: 90. 

9. Andrews, Ruth Diana Williams: 177. 

10. Andrulakis, Catherine Gerasimos — Bill SD-185: 64, 165, 313-4. 

11. Angel, Roger Bernard: 134. 

12. Ankhelyi, Betty— Bill SD-252: 64, 202, 371-3. 

13. Argentini, Armando— Bill SD-227: 64, 165, 364-5. 

14. Arron, Pearl Brown: 64. 

15. Ashley, Juliana Magdalene Rothlaender: 64. 

16. Asnaourian, Aida dit Asnavour Diotte: See Diotte, Aida. 

17. Asselin, Anne Marie— Bill SD-38: 65, 123, 197-9. 

18. Auclair, Etienne: 65. 

19. Aucoin, Sylvia— Bill SD-42: 65, 123, 197-9. 

20. Audet, Alphonse: 65, 278. 

21 . Babb, Florence Schnarch: 65. 



A.D. 1962 INDEX 411 

Divorce bills and petitions — (Continued) 

22. Babeu, Paul Romain Bernard: 178, 378. 

23. Bachelder, Denise— Bill SD-287: 134, 136, 371-3. 

24. Bagry, Sonja— Bill SD-7: 65, 123, 131. 

25. Bankley, Alma Ivy— Bill SD-196: 65, 165, 364-5. 

26. Barber, Walter: 65. 

27. Baril, Edouard Joseph Armand: 65, 248. 

28. Bartlett, Alfred: 179. 

29. Batasonsky, Casimir: 178. 

30. Baumgartner, Iva— Bill SD-50: 65, 123, 197-9. 

31. Beakes,, Donald: 178. 

32. Beaton, Catherine Marie MacDonald: 65. 

33. Beaulieu, Marie Jeanne — Bill SD-34: 65, 123, 132. 

34. Beausoleil, Dorothy Hazel Neila— Bill SD-146: 65, 191, 275-6. 

35. Beauvais, Percy— Bill SD-294: 65, 136, 376-8. 

36. Bedard, Paul Aime — Bill SD-132: 65, 123, 267-8. 

37. Belanger, Jacqueline— Bill SD-95: 65, 123, 199. 

38. Belchik, Jeannie— Bill SD-324: 153, 311, 376-8. 

39. Belpulso, Pardo— Bill SD-314: 65, 227, 376-8. 

40. Bene, Margit— Bill SD-279: 65, 227, 371-3. 

41. Benjamin, Lili Solomon: 178. 

42. Berendy, Aranka Ilona— Bill SD-281: 65, 154, 371-3. 

43. Bergeron, Gladys Ethel Sarah — Bill SD-70: 65, 123, 198-9. 

44. Bergeron, Joseph Ernest Andre: 190. 

45. Bergeron, Magella — Bill SD-155: 65, 191, 275-6. 

46. Bertrand, Guy (St. Laurent)— Bill SD-145: 65, 191, 275-6. 

47. Bertrand, Guy (Sherbrooke)— Bill SD-158: 65, 165, 313-4. 

48. Black, Diane Lillian Kirkus: 65. 

49. Blair, Pamela McIntosh: 65. 

50. Blanchette, Joseph Jean Paul Fernand — Bill SD-230: 65, 124, 
364-5. 

51. Blickstead, June— Bill SD-21: 65, 124, 131. 

52. Blight, Kenneth Allen— Bill SD-201: 65, 278, 364-5. 

53. Bogoly, Gizella Ethel— Bill SD-80: 65, 124, 198-9. 

54. Boisvert, Roland: 66. 

55. Bornstein, Madeleine Stattner: 190. 

56. Bouchard, Joseph Idolard: 66, 165. 

57. Bouchard, Simonne Michele Mona— Bill SD-37: 66, 124, 197-9. 

58. Boucher, Jean-Robert: 66, 136. 

59. Bougie, Joseph Leo Gerard— Bill SD-322: 66, 165, 376-8. 

60. Bradford, Claire— Bill SD-148: 66, 124, 275-6. 

61. Bradley, Richard Price: 134. 

62. Brahmi, Anna Annette Elofer: 178. 

63. Brasseur, Georgiana Bull: 179. 

64. Breard, Aurella. Lapikas: 91. 

65. Breslin, James Robert— Bill SD-290: 66, 356, 371-3. 

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Divorce bills and petitions — (Continued) 

66. Breuer, Michele — Bill SD-154: 66, 192, 275-6. 

67. Brimacombe, Shirley — Bill SD-220: 91, 311, 364-5. 

68. Brody, Klara— Bill SD-139: 66, 192, 267-8. 

69. Brooks, Robert: 178. 

70. Brown, Edward: 66,136. 

71. Brown, Elizabeth Helen— Bill SD-168: 66, 165, 313-4. 

72. Brown, Marjorie— Bill SD-237: 134, 278, 371-3. 

73. Bryson, Wilma Gloria— Bill SD-174: 66, 165, 313-4. 

74. Buchholz, Gerhard Hermann — Bill SD-143: 66, 124, 275-6. 

75. Buckley, Jean Ilene Woods: 178. 

76. Budd, Lois— Bill SD-276: 153, 165, 371-3. 

77. Burke, Alexander— Bill SD-327: 66, 165, 376-8. 

78. Burkousky, Olga Antonina — Bill SD-150: 66, 192, 275-6. 

79. Burns, Eileen Myrtle— Bill SD-65: 91, 124, 198-9. 

80. Burrows, Linda Alice Gardner: 178. 

81. Burt, Lorraine — Bill SD-286: 66, 124, 371-3. 

82. Caille, Cecile Marcoux: 190. 

83. Campbell, Bruce Reid— Bill SD-2: 66, 124, 131, 353-4, 367, 384. 

84. Campbell, Collin Mills: 134, 378. 

85. Campbell, James: 179, 279. 

86. Campion, Francoise— Bill SD-81: 91, 124, 198-9. 

87. Caplan, Rochelle Pleet: 91. 

88. Carignan, Jeannette— Bill SD-249: 66, 165, 371-3. 

89. Caron, Claude: 153. 

90. Caron, Daniel Gaston Jules: 178. 

91. Caron, Judith Elizabeth— Bill SD-91: 66, 124, 199. 

92. Carruthers, John Gordon: 66. 

93. Chadwick-Rider, Elizabeth Anne Rennie: 91. 

94. Chambers, Nicholas Cimbru — Bill SD-320: 66, 165, 376-8. 

95. Champagne, Marie-Paule Jacqueline Lorette Noel: 179, 311. 

96. Chapman, Robert Charles— Bill SD-121: 66, 124, 267-8. 

97. Chasse, Suzanne— Bill SD-256: 153, 202, 371-3. 

98. Clare, Rosemary Beatrice — Bill SD-14: 66, 124, 131. 

99. Clarke, Alice Elizabeth— Bill SD-226: 66, 202, 364-5. 

100. Clayton, Elizabeth Heather MacNicoll: 66, 312. 

101. Clemente, Francesco: 162. 

102. Clench, Selena Sophia Quinton: 179. 

103. Cleri, Anita— Bill SD-60: 66, 124, 198-9. 

104. Clifford, Elsie Champ: 178, 312. 

105. Coade, William James: 190. 

106. Cohen, Edie (Etta) Kauffman: 190. 

107. Cohen, Rose Frishling: 153. 

108. Cohen, Vivian Marjery— Bill SD-184: 66, 165, 313-4. 

109. Cohen, Vivian Turkenik: 190. 

110. Coletta, Rose— Bill SD-172: 153, 165, 313-4. 

111. Collins, Joan Marjorie Gallant: 67. 



A.D. 1962 INDEX 413 

Divorce bills and petitions — (Continued) 

112. Commoy, Rolland— Bill SD-247: 153, 165, 371-3. 

113. Connor, Margot Scott— Bill SD-73: 67, 124, 198-9. 

114. Cooke, Ann Marie Thibeau: 67. 

115. Crawford, Emily May Gledhill: 190. 

116. Crerar, Beverley Hayden— Bill SD-115: 67, 166, 267-8. 

117. Crocker, Jethro Garland: 153, 312. 

118. Croll, Josephine Mary — Bill SD-216: 67, 202, 364-5. 

119. Cuggy, Judith MacBeth— Bill SD-292: 91, 154, 371-3. 

120. Cunningham, Christina Ilene Burns: 91. 

121. Czerniak, Edward: 67. 

122. Da Silva, Florence Patricia— Bill SD-130: 67, 166, 267-8. 

123. Dalgleish, Philip: 153. 

124. Dalgleish, Rose Marie Bohn: 67. 

125. Dalpe, Marie, Raymonde Violetta— Bill SD-179: 67, 248, 313-4. 

126. Danker, Sylvia — Bill SD-325: 67, 376-8, 379. 

127. Davies, Ruby Emma Clough: 67. 

128. Davis, Gita Joy Kaplan: 91. 

129. de Cristofaro, Guiseppe— Bill SD-103: 67, 124, 267-8. 

130. Decelles, Joseph Fortin— Bill SD-144: 67, 192, 275-6. 

131. Decoeur, Lucien: 134. 

132. Defosses, Rose Mancuso: 67. 

133. Delisle, Elsie Jean— Bill SD-51: 67, 124, 197-9. 

134. Deliyannakis, Alexandra— Bill SD-304: 67, 166, 376-8. 

135. Demers, Roland — Bill SD-258: 134, 202, 371-3. 

136. Desjardins, Gladys Jean— Bill SD-97: 67, 124, 199. 

137. Desjardins, Hilda— Bill SD-209: 67, 202, 364-5. 

138. d'Esterre, Anita Margaret— Bill SD-66: 134, 136, 198-9. 

139. Devlin, Mary Jane Kirkpatrick Marshall: 77. 

140. Digby, Margaret Joan— Bill SD-243: 67, 202, 371-3. 

141. Dimeo, Patricia Beverley — Bill SD-305: 67, 166, 376-8. 

142. Diotte, Aida— Bill SD-307: 190, 202, 376-8. 

143. Dixon, Thomas Wesley: 178, 312. 

144. Donaldson, John— Bill SD-326: 91, 154, 376-8. 

145. Donnan, Jean Helen— Bill SD-153: 67, 192, 275-6. 

146. Dophide, Brigitte — Bill SD-116: 67, 166, 267-8. 

147. Dorion, Marie Tarcile Rosalie Yvette Gratton: 67. 

148. Dorozowsky, Edward: 67, 248. 

149. Doyle, Louise— Bill SD-123: 67, 124, 267-8. 

150. Dublanski, Alexandra Hunievicz: 91. 

151. Dubois, Marie Claire Rollande — Bill SD-31: 67, 124, 132. 

152. Dubois, Paul Andre Clement Robert: 178, 312. 

153. Dumas, Mildred Emily Velcoff: 91. 

154. Durocher, Hazel— Bill SD-71: 67, 124, 198-9. 

155. Duval, Rose— Bill SD-122: 67, 124, 267-8. 

156. Eakins, Rosemary Louise— Bill SD-212: 134, 166, 364-5. 

157. Eastwood, Doreen Dreyer Kane: 153. 



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Divorce bills and petitions — (Continued) 

158. Edmondson, William Rankin — Bill SD-300: 68, 279, 376-8. 

159. Edwards, Joseph Arthur Norman William — Bill SD-67: 68, 124, 
198-9. 

160. Ekaireb, Jacques: 178, 379. 

161. Elfstrom, Jacqueline Maynard: 190. 

162. Elkin, Ruth Ilona— Bill SD-285: 68, 136, 371-3. 

163. Elsener, Verena— Bill SD-188: 68, 166, 313-4. 

164. Emond, Leonard— Bill SD-199: 91, 166, 364-5. 

165. Empey, Joyce Ethel — Bill SD-85: 68, 124, 198-9. 

166. Etheridge, Jean Alexandria — Bill SD-88: 68, 124, 198-9. 

167. Faucher, Dorothy Gladys— Bill SD-163: 68, 136, 313-4. 

168. Faucher, John— Bill SD-204: 68, 124, 364-5. 

169. Fillmore, Jean Mildred Giberson: 190. 

170. Finnie, Virginia Waters: 178, 228. 

171. Flamme, Marie Gertrude Helene — Bill SD-27: 68, 124, 132. 

172. Fleischer, Robert — Bill SD-262: 153, 202, 371-3. 

173. Flynn, Louise Simard: 180. 

174. Fortin, Gabriel: 190. 

175. Foster, Pauline Abrams: 68. 

176. Fournier, Mary Iris— Bill SD-211: 68, 202, 364-5. 

177. Fowler, Alethea Sarah Ivy— Bill SD-13: 68, 124, 131. 

178. Fraser, Marie Marguerite Nicole— Bill SD-178: 68, 248, 313-4. 

179. Frawley, Elizabeth Cowan Lecky: 190, 248. 

180. Frederick, Dorothy Minchinton: 68, 136. 

181. Freeman, Thelma— Bill SD-171: 68, 154, 313-4. 

182. Fuchsman, Haia (Clara)— Bill SD-275: 68, 202, 371-3. 

183. Furoy, Jeannine— Bill SD-48: 68, 124, 197-9. 

184. Gagnon, Gaston Joseph: 178, 379. 

185. Gallagher, Margaret Elaine— Bill SD-274: 153, 202, 371-3. 

186. Gallagher, Mary— Bill SD-278: 134, 228, 371-3. 

187. Gallant, Audrey Gertrude East: 68. 

188. Galley, William Robert: 68. 

189. Gates, Rose Marie Luci: 68. 

190. Gauthier, Herve— Bill SD-87: 68, 124, 198-9. 

191. Gauthier, Rosaire— Bill SD-142: 68, 192, 267-8. 

192. Gearey, Helen Doreen Nesbitt: 190. 

193. Geiger, Josephine Isabella — Bill SD-24: 68, 125, 132. 

194. Genest, Therese — Bill SD-280: 68, 136, 371-3. 

195. Geoffroy, Nicole Marie— Bill SD-288: 68, 136, 371-3. 

196. Geraghty, Joseph Adelard Frederick: 153. 

197. Geraldeau, Therese Harnois: 68. 

198. Gibb, Gordon: 180, 279. 

199. Gibbs, Marie Augustine Jeannette Bail: 68, 248. 

200. Giguere, Mary Yvonne— Bill SD-271: 68, 228, 371-3. 

201. Gilker, Pauline Painchaud: 68. 

202. Gillman, Kate — Bill SD-28: 68, 125, 132. 



A.D. 1962 INDEX 415 

Divorce bills and petitions — (Continued) 

203. Gilmour, Violet Gabrielle Beaudry: 180, 248. 

204. Giroux, Wilfrid— Bill SD-104: 180, 202, 267-8. 

205. Gittens, Marie Emilia Roland — Bill SD-255: 69, 248, 371-3. 

206. Glendinning, Amy Sandra — Bill SD-233: 135, 228, 371-3. 

207. Godard, Marie Yvonne Lucie Robillard: 69. 

208. Gohier, Geraldine Cecilia— Bill SD-152: 153, 166, 275-6. 

209. Goodis, Louis P.: 69. 

210. Goodwin, Harvey Stewart Wycliffe: 153. 

211. Goresky, Lucille— Bill SD-127: 135, 136, 267-8. 

212. Goulet, Lise Bergeron: 69. 

213. Goyer, Joseph Honore: 178. 

214. Grabina, Nancy Ruth— Bill SD-131: 68, 192, 267-8. 

215. Grant, Kingsley Seafield: 180. 

216. Graveline, Gilles— Bill SD-36: 69, 125, 132. 

217. Gray, Catherine Mildred — Bill SD-138: 69, 125, 267-8. 

218. Gray, Elizabeth— Bill SD-180: 69, 136, 313-4. 

219. Greenberg, Edith Diane Shapiro: 69. 

220. Greenfield, Leonard: 178. 

221. Greensell, Marie— Bill SD-310: 69, 154, 376-8. 

222. Gregor-Pearse, Joan Marjorie— Bill SD-111: 69, 154, 267-8. 

223. Gregory, Barbara Gladys — Bill SD-270: 69, 228, 371-3. 

224. Griffith, Mary Noreen Smith: 69. 

225. Grundy, Wilhelmina— Bill SD-156: 135, 192, 275-6. 

226. Guay, Marie-Louise— Bill SD-177: 153, 166, 313-4. 

227. Guimond, Margarete Huber: 178. 

228. Hagg, Olga Komretsky: 69, 125. 

229. Hankowski, Madeleine FRANgoiSE — Bill SD-1: 135, 136, 131, 353, 
367, 376. 

230. Hann, Arthur Bruce: 178, 379. 

231. Hann, George: 69, 136. 

232. Harman, John— Bill SD-10: 69, 125, 131. 

233. Harrison, Robert — Bill SD-118: 69, 166, 267-8. 

234. Hart: See Teitlebaum, Irene Dolgin. 

235. Harvey, Margaret Anne— Bill SD-282: 69, 154, 371-3. 

236. Hassall, Doris Sibyl Jane— Bill SD-189: 69, 248, 313-4. 

237. Hebert, Bernard: 91. 

238. Hebert, Rene— Bill SD-140: 69, 192, 267-8. 

239. Henderson, Gerald William— Bill SD-64: 69, 125, 198-9. 

240. Herscovitch, Abie (Allan)— Bill SD-141: 69, 192, 267-8. 

241 . Herscovitch, Ezreh Harry: 69, 202. 

242. Hershenkopf, Rae Yane: 69. 

243. Hicks, Donald Edgar — Bill SD-175: 69, 279, 313-4. 

244. Hilton, Patricia McKernan: 135, 166. 

245. Hinksman, Germaine Marie Therese— Bill SD-62: 69, 125, 198-9. 

246. Hogan, Richard Wilfrid Earl: 178. 

247. Hogue, Lise— Bill 30: 69, 125, 132. 



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Divorce bills and petitions — (Continued) 

248. Holgate, June Eleanor Elvidge: 190. 

249. Hollinger, Felix — Bill SD-79: 69, 125, 198-9. 

250. Holowaty, Micheline Deyglun: 91, 202. 

251. Holp, Adam: 190,379. 

252. Hong: See Wing, Charlie. 

253. Horton, George Cecil: 178, 228. 

254. Howell, Dorothy Doreen — Bill SD-45: 69, 125. 

255. Hruszij, Nadia-Anne — Bill SD-244: 69, 154, 371-3. 

256. Hufford, Franklin Dale: 153. 

257. Huitson, John Joseph — Bill SD-89: 69, 125, 199. 

258. Hulbig, Muriel Howarth— Bill SD-234: 91, 228, 371-3. 

259. Hurley, Norma Ann Murray: 70, 166. 

260. Hurst, Lillian Florence Catherine — Bill SD-157: 70, 192, 275-6. 

261. Hyman, Harry— Bill SD-134: 70, 125, 267-8. 

262. Ignatescu, Ion— Bill SD-272: 70, 228, 371-3. 

263. Impellezzeri, Joan Hembling: 190. 

264. Ingliss, Junior Robert: 70. 

265. Jack, Haidy Amalie Madeleine — Bill SD-129: 70, 166, 267-8. 

266. Jackson, Gilbert Walter: 153. 

267. Jacobson, Rosa — Bill SD-192: 70, 202, 364-5. 

268. Janicki, Zbigniew Stanislaw — Bill SD-297: 70, 166, 376-8. 

269. Javicoli, Antonello: 178. 

270. Jeffries, Marie Joan Patricia — Bill SD-224: 135, 166, 364-5. 

271. Jodoin, Roger: 178. 

272. Johnson, Christine — Bill SD-53: 70, 136, 198-9. 

273. Johnston, Phyllis Carol— Bill SD-198: 70, 228, 364-5. 

274. Jones, Beverley Anne Basford: 178. 

275. Jones, William George: 90. 

276. Kaatz, Cacilie Johanna Friederike Hagedorn: 70, 125. 

277. Kaczur, Arlene June Roy: 91. 

278. Kamin, Regina Brauner: 70, 125. 

279. Kaplansky, Diane Goldberg: 70. 

280. Karas, Peter: 178. 

281. Karbelnik, Lily (Laura) Anita— Bill SD-72: 70, 125, 198-9. 

282. Karls, Wilma Goldstein: 190, 312. 

283. Kennedy, Hazel Vera Caines: 178. 

284. Kenny, Colleen Ann— Bill SD-197: 91, 166, 364-5. 

285. Kenwood, Margaret Anna— Bill SD-120: 70, 125, 267-8. 

286. Kerlikowsky, Karl Heinz— Bill SD-208: 70, 279, 364-5. 

287. Kern, Marie Louise Renz: 70. 

288. Kimberg, Zelda Barbara— Bill SD-302: 70, 166, 376-8. 

289. Kiwitt, Gabriela— Bill SD-86: 70, 125, 198-9. 

290. Klaiman, Anita Carpman: 180. 

291: Kligman, Mildred— Bill SD-126: 70, 166, 267-8. 

292. Knezevic, Anita Guido— Bill SD-219: 91, 312, 364-5. 

293. Knowles, Maureen— Bill SD-245: 70, 248, 371-3. 



A.D. 1962 INDEX 417 

Divorce bills and petitions — (Continued) 

294. Kotania, Elizabeth Anne— Bill SD-190: 70, 202, 364-5. 

295. Kovacs (Kovac), Dora Elfriede Elizabeth Christian — Bill SD-173: 
70, 136, 313-4. 

296. Krakower, Molly Slobod: 180, 312. 

297. Krautle, Joan Jeanette— Bill SD-170: 70, 136, 313-4. 

298. Kulczycki, Lillian Cere: 178, 312. 

299. Laflamme, John Joseph: 190, 379. 

300. Laforge, Joseph Marcel Andre: 135. 

301. Lahey, Nora Bridget— Bill SD-250: 70, 166, 371-3. 

302. Lalonde, Geralde Boucher: 135. 

303. Lamoureux, Gilles: 190. 

304. Lanctot, Gwendolyn Grace Parsons: 190, 379. 

305. Lank, Constance Le Baron Dibblee: 190. 

306. Lanthier, Gerard Oscar: 91. 

307. Lantos, Stephen Alexander— Bill SD-193: 70, 202, 364-5. 

308. Lapointe, Marie Celine Pierrette Lavoie: 178. 

309. Laptew, Elizabeth— Bill SD-277: 153, 166, 371-3. 

310. Larocque, Joyce Irene— Bill SD-246: 70, 202, 371-3. 

311. Laurie, Constance Valerie— Bill SD-117: 70, 166, 267-8. 

312. Lebeau, Philippe: 70. 

313. LeBel, Maurice— Bill SD-35: 71, 125, 132. 

314. Leblanc, Paulyne— Bill SD-223: 135, 166, 364-5. 

315. Leblanc, Stella— Bill SD-22: 71, 125, 132. 

316. Lecompte, Joseph Maurice Real: 91. 

317. Lefebvre, Guy— Bill SD-266: 71, 356, 371-3. 

318. Leibovitch, Barbara Phyllis Lipchitz Lippman: 71, 166. 

319. Lejeune, Ada Josephine Ford: 153. 

320. Lemoine, Violet Pearl St. James— Bill SD-205: 71, 203, 364-5. 

321. Lenkei (Leichtag), Maria— Bill SD-165: 71, 136, 313-4. 

322. Leroux, Anita Marie Virginie Bouffard: 153, 228. 

323. Lesiuk, Teresa Botulynska: 178,248. 

324. Lesnik, Celia— Bill SD-99: 71, 125, 199. 

325. Lessard, Phyllis Marie Walsh: 179. 

326. Letovsky, Jean— Bill SD-238: 154, 166, 371-3. 

327. Levin, Bette Nobleman: 71. 

328. Levin, Moe: 71. 

329. Levy, Ines Barbara— Bill SD-166: 71, 166, 313-4. 

330. Levy, Martin Simeon— Bill SD-289: 135, 154, 371-3. 

331. Lewis, Margaret Ada— Bill SD-17: 71, 125, 131. 

332. L'Heureux, Jean Bernard— Bill SD-125: 71, 166, 267-8. 

333. Liberman, Marsha— Bill SD-136: 71, 125, 267-8. 

334. Liebling, Sheila— Bill SD-32: 71, 125, 132. 

335. Lindener, Gertrude Vutz: 190. 

336. Lister, Margaret Kathleen McCullough: 179. 

337. Litwack, Laura Letovsky: 190. 

338. Liverpool, Geraldine Elaine Edwards: 71, 166. 

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Divorce bills and petitions — (Continued) 

339. Loke, William John— Bill SD-218: 135, 167, 364-5. 

340. Longtin, Nathalie— Bill SD-241: 71, 203, 371-3. 

341. Lord, Dorothy Estelle— Bill SD-147: 71, 154, 275-6. 

342. Loughheed (Lougheed), John: 135. 

343. Lowther, Barbara Joan Sonia Horsfield: 154, 279. 

344. Luedders, Karl-Heinz Hans— Bill SD-231: 71, 154, 371-3. 

345. Lyman, Frances— Bill SD-101: 71, 154, 199. 

346. MacDonald, Ann Marguerite — Bill SD-206: 91, 203, 364-5. 

347. MacDonald, Thelma Joanette Lawless: 72. 

348. MacDougall, Margaret Meredith Cape: 190, 379. 

349. Mackenzie, Vera Irene— Bill SD-265: 72, 279, 371-3. 

350. MacLean, Garfield: 154. 

351. MacPherson, Edna Anne Stanley: 154, 312. 

352. Madden, Frances Sheila Cashmore: 179, 312. 

353. Maisonet, Patricia Marjorie Fulton: 179. 

354. Major, Joseph Azarie Rene: 184. 

355. Mandanici, Fernande Carloni: 71, 125. 

356. Mann, Barbara Ruth Neale: 190. 

357. Manoah, Phyllis— Bill SD-213: 71, 203, 364-5. 

358. Mansfield, Edward Sidney— Bill SD-133: 71, 125, 267-8. 

359. Mantadakis, George: 135. 

360. Maranda, Leo Rene: 191, 312. 

361. Marchand (Mihalcean), Leonard — Bill SD-149: 71, 154, 275-6. 

362. Marcovitz, Soshy Judith Teicher: 179. 

363. Marlow, Beatrice Sternberg: 71. 

364. Marsden, Dawn Dorothea — Bill SD-83: 71, 125, 198-9. 

365. Martin, Sandra Mary Louise— Bill SD-210: 71, 203, 364-5. 

366. Marzitelli, Annie Mary (Mae) Dixon: 191. 

367. Mathieu, Marie Catherine Beaubien Frances Drumm: 191. 

368. Matthews, Anna Luella— Bill SD-69: 71, 125, 198-9. 

369. Maughan, Beverley Ann— Bill SD-267: 154, 228, 371-3. 

370. McAleer, Louisa Greig: 190. 

371. McAlinden, Maureen Carol McCullough: 91. 

372. McCallum, Vida Irene Louise — Bill SD-242: 72, 203, 371-3. 

373. McDougall, Edith Rozel — Bill SD-200: 72, 167, 364-5. 

374. McDuff, Margaret Rose Hamel: 179, 228. 

375. McGuire, Micheline— Bill SD-76: 91, 126, 198-9. 

376. McIntosh, Angus— Bill SD-108: 72, 154, 267-8. 

377. McKellar, Ellen Chase — Bill SD-202: 72, 137, 364-5. 

378. McLeod, Pamela Ellen Wischhusen: 72. 

379. McVety, Sandra Elizabeth— Bill SD-124: 72, 126, 267-8. 

380. Meakins, Mildred Dawson — Bill SD-5: 71, 125, 131, 355. 

381. Meerovitch, Marie Aleta — Bill SD-114: 71, 155, 267-8. 

382. Menahem, Stella Eileen Sassoon: 179, 312. 

383. Mercure, Monique Emond: 180. 

384. Michelsen, Werner Burke: 154. 



A.D. 1962 INDEX 419 

Divorce bills and petitions — (Continued) 

385. Mihalcean: See Marchand, Leonard. 

386. Milette, Caroll Lynne Cavey: 180. 

387. Millette, Evelyne Paquette: 72, 167. 

388. Mills, Mabel Lucille — Bill SD-296: 179, 228, 376-8. 

389. Milne, John Andrew — Bill SD-61: 72, 125, 198-9. 

390. Mingle, junior, Frank Hamilton — Bill SD-194: 91, 155, 364-5. 

391. Modler, Leslie Thomas Norval— Bill SD-232: 72, 203, 371-3. 

392. Moffat, Margaret Jean Coutts: 180. 

393. Monaghan, William Henry — Bill SD-319: 91, 203, 376-8. 

394. Monette, Gladys Noreen — Bill SD-98: 72, 125, 199. 

395. Monks, Stanley: 135. 

396. Montpetit, Claude Gerard: 90. 

397. Moreau, Harold— Bill SD-295: 72, 203, 376-8. 

398. Moreau, Suzanne Piuze: 191. 

399. Morelli, May Margaret— Bill SD-109: 72, 155, 267-8. 

400. Morris, Vilma Kirby: 72. 

401 . Morrow, Kathleen Alice Priestley: 135. 

402. Morton, Valerie Jean— Bill SD-284: 72, 136, 371-3. 

403. Moseley, Josephine Suhr — Bill SD-52: 77, 126, 198-9. 

404. Moss, Ruth— Bill SD-176: 72, 167, 313-4. 

405. Moss, Shirley Guss: 72, 126. 

406. Mousseau, Jean-Paul: 191. 

407. Mouton, Marie Antoinette Germaine Corbeil: 135, 312. 

408. Mulcahy, Doreen Eleanor Bishop: 72, 126. 

409. Munch, Elsa— Bill SD-57: 72, 126, 198-9. 

410. Nagy, Lajos (Louis)— Bill SD-259: 72, 312, 371-3. 

411. Naimovitch, Betty Solomon: 72, 228. 

412. Nawrocki, Josephine (Rose) — Bill SD-301: 72, 167, 376-8. 

413. Neal, Shirley Millar: 179, 312. 

414. Neron, Paul: 72, 228. 

415. Nevitt, Frances Cynthia— Bill SD-43: 72, 126, 197-9. 

416. Newman, Mallie Fanny Kac: 180, 279. 

417. Niquette, Paul Emile— Bill SD-56: 90, 127, 198-9. 

418. O'Connor, Hugh— Bill SD-263: 72, 228, 371-3. 

419. Olejnik, Pawel— Bill SD-84: 72, 126, 198-9. 

420. O'Neil, Betty— Bill SD-221: 135, 155, 364-5. 

421 . O'Neill, Joseph James Alexander Clermont: 154. 

422. O'Reilly, Jean Elizabeth — Bill SD-214: 72, 203, 364-5. 

423. Orr, Carole Anne Douglas: 180. 

424. Oulton, Helen Minkoff: 179, 379. 

425. Page, Charles Harold — Bill SD-264: 72, 228, 371-3. 

426. Pallotta, Giovanni— Bill SD-4: 72, 126, 131, 355, 367. 

427. Papp, Clara Edith— Bill SD-100: 73, 126, 199. 

428. Parent, Joseph Philippe Philias Fabien— Bill SD-299: 191, 203, 
376-8. 

429. Parent, Mary Ruth Girling: 73. 

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Divorce bills and petitions — (Continued) 

430. Parizeau, Paul: 73,279. 

431. Parmiter, Virginia RuTH--Bill SD-251: 73, 248, 371-3. 

432. Parrouty, Rosi Irma— Bill SD-269: 135, 228, 371-3. 

433. Patrick, Betty Lillian Reichert: 179. 

434. Pearson, Joan Mary — Bill SD-92: 73, 126, 199. 

435. Peck, Elizabeth— Bill SD-162: 191, 192, 313-4. 

436. Pelletier, Joseph Luc Roger: 191, 379. 

437. Perry, Suzi Elizabeth— Bill SD-82: 73, 126, 198-9. 

438. Phelps, Joseph John Paul Raymond: 191. 

439. Pickford, John Matthew Hard-man: 191. 

440. Piercey, Maureen Mary — Bill SD-215: 73, 203, 364-5. 

441. Pilidis, Nicholas: 154. 

442. Pilon, Roland: 179,312. 

443. Pinkerton, Madge Estelle — Bill SD-107: 135, 155, 267-8. 

444. Plaskett, Eva Florence— Bill SD-207: 73, 203, 364-5. 

445. Pluss, Werner Hermann: 73. 

446. Plzak, Georgine— Bill SD-321: 73, 137, 376-8. 

447. Porter, Louisa Emily Elizabeth Stevens: 135, 379. 

448. Pozza, Mona— Bill SD-203: 73, 192, 364-5. 

449. Pringle, Marie Henriette Antoinette Marguerite Bloodworth 
Csurguay: 180, 279. 

450. Prud'homme, Jean Guy— Bill SD-112: 73, 155, 267-8. 

451. Pujol, Jacqueline Henriette Demelin: 135. 

452. Quelle, Lena— Bill SD-8: 73, 126, 131. 

453. Quevillon, Joseph Yvon: 73. 

454. Racine, Alphonse Eugene: 73. 

455. Racine, Joseph Emilien Rene: 191. 

456. Rae, Evelyn Frances— Bill SD-183: 73, 167, 313-4. 

457. Ramsay, Shirley Grace Reid: 179. 

458. Ranger, Joyce Evelyn— Bill SD-47: 73, 126, 197-9. 

459. Rankin, Patricia Rose — Bill SD-135: 73, 192, 267-8. 

460. Rapoport, Olga Eizner: 191, 379. 

461. Reid, Elizabeth Shaw Fisher— Bill SD-33: 73, 126, 132 

462. Reid, Hale Calvin— Bill SD-39: 73, 126, 197-9. 

463. Reid, Thirza Patricia Coleman: 191. 

464. Reiner, Susanne— Bill SD-254: 91, 228, 371-3. 

465. Remy, Monique — Bill SD-55: 73, 126, 198-9. 

466. Renaud, Patrick Marcel: 162. 

467. Renaut, Marcel: 91, 126. 

468. Richard, Real— Bill SD-54: 73, 167, 198-9. 

469. Richt, Fay Naiman: 73. 

470. Rinder, Jean Alice— Bill SD-164: 73, 126, 313-4. 

471. Rivard, Christine Goguen: 179, 192. 

472. Roberts, Doris Elinor Champ: 91, 312. 

473. Robinson, Calvin Harold: 73. 

474. Rogers, Barbara Patricia— Bill SD-257: 179, 203, 371-3. 



A.D. 1962 INDEX 421 

Divorce bills and petitions — (Continued) 

475. Romer, Geraldine Ludgarde — Bill SD-160: 73, 137, 313-4. 

476. Rose, Melvin: 191. 

477. Rosenberg, Jeanette Silver: 191. 

478. Rosenberg, Marcelle — Bill SD-291: 73, 137, 371-3. 

479. Rosenblatt, Isadore — Bill SD-225: 73, 203, 364-5. 

480. Rosenblatt, Susie Susser: 73. 

481. Rosenstrauss, Rebecca— Bill SD-222: 74, 203, 364-5. 

482. Ross, Irene— Bill SD-68: 74, 126, 198-9. 

483. Rothman, Nellie — Bill SD-94: 74, 126, 199. 

484. Roy, Joseph-Zenon Roland: 74, 167. 

485. Rozwadowski, Gerda-Sascha — Bill SD-23: 74, 126, 132. 

486. Rubenstein, Fany Ghimpelman: 179, 312. 

487. Ruhnau, Margarete Gerda — Bill SD-25: 74, 126, 132. 

488. Runions, Beverly Anne — Bill SD-308: 74, 126, 376-8. 

489. Ryan, Daisy Emily Dorothy — Bill SD-46: 191, 192, 197-9. 

490. Ryan, Kathleen— Bill SD-187: 74, 248, 313-4. 

491. Sabo, Helen Beverley Johnson: 92. 

492. Sacks, Molly— Bill SD-228: 74, 312, 364-5. 

493. Sadler, David Filmore: 135, 203. 

494. St. Jacques, Raymond: 184. 

495. Sangster, Kathleen— Bill SD-235: 74,312,371-3. 

496. Sansregret, Eugenie Fortin: 179, 312. 

497. Saya, Carmelo Domenico: 74. 

498. Schaub, Frieda Lina — Bill SD-195: 74, 279, 364-5. 

499. Scherzer, Lorna— Bill SD-40: 74, 126, 197-9. 

500. Schwartz, Ida— Bill SD-240: 74, 203, 371-3. 

501. Sckyra, Marie Theresa— Bill SD-268: 74, 228, 371-3. 

502. Scott, Cynthia Elsie — Bill SD-20: 74, 126, 131. 

503. Seagrove, Millicent Vera— Bill SD-229: 92, 203, 364-5. 

504. Sealy, Joseph Maurice— Bill SD-283: 74, 357, 371-3. 

505. Seaman, Agnes Irene — Bill SD-16: 74, 126, 131. 

506. Senecal, Cecile Rosler Wall: 74. 

507. Sergent, Anna May— Bill SD-298: 74, 357, 376-8. 

508. Shapiro, Blima (Wendy)— Bill SD-96: 74, 126, 199. 

509. Sharko, William: 74. 

510. Sharpe, Jeannine Elizabeth— Bill SD-59: 74, 126, 198-9. 

511. Sherry, Ivy Elizabeth— Bill SD-128: 135, 167, 267-8. 

512. Showers, Fernande Dufresne: 74. 

513. Siev, Phyllis— Bill SD-236: 92, 203, 371-3. 

514. Simpson, Lloyd James— Bill SD-78: 74, 126, 198-9. 

515. Sinka, Imrich: 74. 

516. Slattery, Marion Ruth Catherine — Bill SD-6: 74, 127, 131. 

517. Small, Elizabeth Lillian— Bill SD-137: 74, 137, 267-8. 

518. Small, Patricia Ann— Bill SD-313: 74, 167, 376-8. 

519. Smith, Aline Helene— Bill SD-113: 75, 155, 267-8. 

520. Smith, Margaret Catherine— Bill SD-26: 90, 128, 132. 



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Divorce bills and petitions — (Continued) 

521. Smith, Ruby Rita— Bill SD-312: 75, 376-8, 379. 

522. Sobrian, Barbara Ann — Bill SD-253: 135, 228, 371-3. 

523. Socaransky, Sylvia— Bill SD-161: 75, 203, 313-4. 

524. Somlo, Anne-Marie— Bill SD-105: 154, 203, 267-8. 

525. Sonne, Eloise— Bill SD-260: 179, 228, 371-3. 

526. Soulier, Ginette Noela Melanie— Bill SD-248: 307, 325, 349-50, 
357, 371-3. 

527. Souliere, Rolland: 75, 127. 

528. Southwood, Myrtle Alice— Bill SD-49: 75, 127, 197-9. 

529. Sperlich, Kurt: 75. 

530. Spires, Sylvia Bertha— Bill SD-159: 75, 127, 313-4. 

531. Staruch, Bertha— Bill SD-311: 75, 167, 376-8. 

532. Stirling, Elizabeth Angela— Bill SD-317: 75, 137, 376-8. 

533. Strachan, Adele Kathleen— Bill SD-316: 75, 137, 376-8. 

534. Strang, Frances Beatrice Campbell: 75. s 

535. Stratton, Leomay Marie Blanche — Bill SD-41: 75, 127, 197-9. 

536. Strickland, Anna Elizabeth— Bill SD-182: 75, 248, 313-4. 

537. Sutton, Audrey Barbara Harris: 75, 279. 

538. Szakacs, Mihaly: 179. 

539. Tait, Kenneth James Graham: 180. 

540. Talbot, Marcel: 154. 

541. Tannenbaum, Hyman Omri— Bill SD-191: 75, 203, 364-5. 

542. Tassin, Louis: 75. 

543. Tata, Marketa— Bill SD-119: 75, 127, 267-8. 

544. Teitle: See Teitlebaum, Irene Dolgin. 

545. Teitlebaum, Irene Dolgin: 191. 

546. Tellier, Adrien: 179. 

547. Theriault, Donat — Bill SD-167: 75, 127, 313-4. 

548. Thivierge, J. Georges Robert: 75. 

549. Thom, Edith Mary Seymour-Higgins: 135. 

550. Thomson, Willa Keith McLaren: 92, 312. 

551. Titleman, Isadore — Bill SD-15: 75, 127, 131. 

552. Tornay, Glen Stewart — Bill SD-93: 75, 127, 199. 

553. Trachtenberg (Tratt), Beverley— Bill SD-18: 75, 127, 131. 
534. Tratt, Beverley: See Trachtenberg, Beverley. 

555. Tremblay, Alma — Bill SD-75: 75, 127, 198-9. 

556. Trerice, Doris Irene — Bill SD-303: 75, 167, 376-8. 

557. Trickey, Milton Lawrence — Bill SD-217: 75, 203, 364-5. 

558. Trottier, Denise Boudreau: 75. 

559. Turcotte, Leo Paul: 75, 279. 

560. Turnball, Alexander: 184. 

561. Tyminski, Irene— Bill SD-293: 75, 137, 371-3. 

562. Ungar, Gabrielle— Bill SD-318: 92, 167, 376-8. 

563. Vachon, Raymonde Mongeau: 191. 

564. Varin, Maurice: 75, 203. 

565. Varverikos, Lygery — Bill SD-58: 76, 127, 198-9. 

566. Vekos, Panagiotis: 191. 



A.D. 1962 INDEX 423 

Divorce bills and petitions — (Concluded) 

567. Vermette, Andre: 76. 

568. Vezeau, Marie-Jeanne Pare: 76, 127. 

569. Vien, Helene Denise: Bill SD-181: 76, 127, 313-4. 

570. Vincent, Donna Maureen Croteau: 76. 

571. Vysniauskas, Stasys— Bill SD-169: 76, 137, 313-4. 

572. Walker, Linnea Erna Barbara— Bill SD-110: 76, 127, 267-8. 

573. Wallace, Barbara Ann — Bill SD-29: 76, 127, 132. 

574. Waller, Lillian Anne LePoidevin: 76, 203. 

575. Walsh, Phyllis Helen Dorothy Rodrigue: 76. 

576. Wardell, Sheila Allison Pettigrew: 76. 

577. Watt, William Metcalfe— Bill SD-3: 76, 127, 131, 354-5, 367. 

578. Weatherby, Mary Catherine — Bill SD-63: 76, 127, 198-9. 

579. Weiss (Weisz), Toni Anna Lydia— Bill SD-186: 76, 167, 313-4. 

580. Welte, Anton— Bill SD-102: 76, 155, 199. 

581. Wetheimer, Esther— Bill SD-11: 76, 127, 131. 

582. Westover, Alexandra May: 76, 127. 

583. Wexler, Sylvia Rumianik: 76. 

584. White, Miriam— Bill SD-77: 76, 127, 198-9. 

585. White, Stanley Frank: 76, 248. 

586. Willard, Lloyd Carlton: 179, 379. 

587. Williams, John Harold: 76. 

588. Williamson, James Richard — Bill SD-74: 76, 127, 198-9. 

589. Willis, Albert Henry Grabeldinger— Bill SD-323: 76, 176, 376-8. 

590. Wing, Charlie (Hong Fong Wing and Charlie Wing Hong): 179. 

591. Winter, Odette Rosalie Louise Hick: 76. 

592. Wodnicki, Helena Jadwiga Igiel— Bill SD-315: 76, 137, 376-8. 

593. Wolofsky, Sheila— Bill SD-151: 76, 192, 275-6. 

594. Woolley, Shirley Margaret— Bill SD-239: 154, 167, 371-3. 

595. Worthington, Lily— Bill SD-44: 76, 127, 197-9. 

596. Wrede, Waltraut Ursula Paymann: 191. 

597. Wright, Sheila Cohen: 191. 

598. Wunderlich, Karl Heinz— Bill SD-309: 179, 192, 376-8. 

599. Zajko, Jennie— Bill SD-261: 76, 228, 371-3. 

600. Zalloni, Jean: 191. 

601. Zeitlhofer, Franz— Bill SD-9: 77, 127, 131. 

602. Zimber, Rachela — Bill SD-12: 77, 127, 131. 

Dominion Bureau of Statistics: See Statistics, Dominion Bureau of. 
Dominion Coal Board: See Coal Board. 

Dominion-provincial relations: See Federal-provincial relations. 
Dominion Steel and Coal Company: See Coal Board. 

Drury, C M.: 

Order, — Return re civilian and military appointments held by C. M. Drury, 
referred to by Prime Minister on Jan. 23rd 1962; decorations, etc.: 
Mr. Matheson, 47. Presented, 208. Sess. Paper No. 209. 



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Eastern Rockies Forest Conservation Board: 

Report for 1960-61, 13. Sess. Paper No. 74. Printed. 

Eastern Trust Company: 

Petition received for Act to amend, 185. 

Economic and Trade Committee, Joint: See Canada-United States Joint Eco- 
nomic and Trade Committee. 

Economic Outlook, Canadian: See Trade and Commerce Department, 3. 

Educational assistance: 

1 . Address, — Correspondence between Prime Minister and Quebec 
Premier re university grants since Jan. 1st 1961: Mr. Cardin for Mr. 
Chevrier, 47. Presented, 134. Sess. Paper No. 196. 

2. Adult Education Research Council, National, establishment of: motion 
(Mr. Pitman), moved and debate interrupted, 84. 

3. Greater federal assistance, committee to study: motion (Mr. Morton), 
moved and debate interrupted, 258. 

See also Children of War Dead (Education Assistance) Act Amendment 
Bill. 

Eldorado Aviation Limited: 

1. Report for 1961, with auditor's report, 323. Sess. Paper No. 141. 
Printed. 

2. Capital budget for 1962, 14. Sess. Paper No. 141. 

Eldorado Mining and Refining Limited: 

1. Report for 1961, with auditor's report, 323. Sess. Paper No. 141. 
Printed. 

2. Capital budget for 1962, 14. Sess. Paper No. 141. 

Elections. 

1. Orders in Council P.C. 1961-433 to -436 of March 23rd 1961, establish- 
ing tariff of fees for officials conducting vote, for Special Returning 
Officers appointed to act at a General Election pursuant to Canadian 
Forces Voting Rules, for officials conducting election of members to 
serve in Councils of Northwest Territories and Yukon Territory, for 
officials conducting election in Electoral Districts of Yukon and 
Mackenzie River, and revoking Orders in Council P.C. 1958-93, 
1958-94, 1957-1698, 1957-1699, 11-2. Sess. Paper No. lb. 

2. Warrant for issue of new writ for election: Mackenzie River, 187; 
Nicolet-Yamaska, 187-8. 

3. Campaign expenditures, limiting, special committee to study: motion 
(Mr. Pickersgill), moved and debate interrupted, 247. 

See also British North America Act Amendment Bills; Elections Act; 
House of Commons Act Amendment Bill (election writs for by-elec- 
tions) ; Representation Act Amendment Bills. 

Elections Act: 

Report of Chief Electoral Officer pursuant to section 58 of Act, 8. Sess. 
Paper No. 1 Elections Act amending re Northwest Territories repre- 
sentation: See Representation Act Amendment Bills, 1. 



A.D. 1962 INDEX 425 

Elections Act Amendment Bills: 

1. Bill C-16, Mr. Howard (age of voters). 1st R., 21. 2nd R. moved and 
debate interrupted, 189. 

2. Bill C-34, Mr. McGee (campaign contributions). 1st R., 23. 2nd R. 
moved and debate interrupted, 300. 

Electoral Boundaries Commission Act Bill: 

Resolution, — To introduce measure re establishment of an Electoral Bound- 
aries Commission for readjustment of representation in House of Com- 
mons; to provide per diem allowance, travelling and living expenses, 
services of technical advisers and other staff: House to consider in 
Committee of the Whole at next sitting, 276. Considered in Committee 
of the Whole, 334, 337, 375. Resolution adopted, 375. Prime Minister, 
Bill C-87. 1st R., 375. 

Electric power: See Power grid. 

Emergency Gold Mining Assistance Act: 

Report for 1960-61, 18. Sess. Paper No. 93. Printed. 

Emergency Measures Organization: See Defence. 

Employment practices bill: See Fair Employment Practices Act Amendment Bill. 

Enemy Property: See Custodian of Enemy Property. 

Energy Board: 

Report on activities for 1961, 307. Sess. Paper No. 144a. 

Energy Board Act Amendment Bill: 

Bill C-33, Mr. Thomas (drainage works). 1st R., 23. 2nd R. moved and 
debate interrupted, 290. 

Estate Tax Act: See Ways and Means, 8. 

Estimates: 

1. Further Supplementary Estimates (2), 1961-62, 31. Sess. Paper No. 
47a. Printed. 

2. Further Supplementary Estimates (3), 1961-62, 87. Sess. Paper 
No. 47b. Printed. 

3. Further Supplementary Estimates (4), 1961-62, 245. Sess. Paper No. 
47c. Printed. 

4. Main Estimates, 1962-63, 97. Sess. Paper No. 47. Printed. 

5. Some basic details of cases presented for deletion from accounts and 
summary of debts presented for deletion from Public Accounts, Fur- 
ther Supplementary Estimates (4), 1961-62, 299. Sess. Paper No. 47d. 

See also Supply; Ways and Means. 

Estimates Commitee: 

Membership: 115, 199. 



426 HOUSE OF COMMONS 10-11 ELIZABETH II 

European Economic Community: 

1. Communique issued Jan. 4th 1962 following talks in Ottawa re Euro- 
pean trading developments, between Canadian Ministers and Mr. Ed- 
ward Heath, Lord Privy Seal in British Government, 31. Sess. Paper 
No. 189. (Printed as appendix to Hansard of Jan. 24th 1962). 

2. Order, — Return giving outline of summary and speech of Mr. Edward 
Heath, Britain's Lord Privy Seal, at Paris, Oct. 10th, 1961: Mr. Mc- 
Ilraith — presented forthwith, 79. Sess. Paper No. 189a. 

Evangelical Mennonite Mission Conference Act Bill: 

Petition to incorporate received, 86. Reported by Examiner of Petitions, 
136. Bill S-5, Mr. Muir (Lisgar). Received from Senate, 1st R., 239. 
2nd R. after debate, referred to Miscellaneous Private Bills Committee, 
251. Reported without amendment, 285. Considered in Committee of 
the Whole, reported without amendment, 3rd R., 290. R. A., 322. 10-11 
Elizabeth II, Chapter 39. 

Examiner of Petitions: 

Reports: 123, 127, 135, 136, 144, 154, 165, 191, 202, 227 (2), 248, 249, 
265, 278, 311, 356, 378. 

See also Divorce bills; Miscellaneous Private Bills Committee; 

Standing Orders Committee — and under titles of particular private 
bills. 

Exchange Fund Account: 

Report of Auditor General for 1961, 327. Sess. Paper No. 48. 

Exchequer Court Divorce Jurisdiction Act Bill: 

Bill C-40, Mr. Peters. 1st R., 27. 2nd R. moved and debate interrupted, 322. 

Excise Tax Act: See Ways and Means, 8. 

Experimental Stations: See Agriculture Department. 

Export Act: 

Statement re regulations respecting petroleum and pulpwood, 26. 
Sess. Paper No. 111. 

Export and Imports Permits Act: 

Report of operations for 1961, 14. Sess. Paper No. 143. 
See also Trade; Trade and Commerce Department. 

Export Credits Insurance Act Amendment Bill: 

Resolution, — To increase maximum liability of importers under outstand- 
ing instrument the payment of which is guaranteed by Corporation 
under section 21 A, and to provide for certain change in administra- 
tion: House to consider in Committee of the Whole at next sitting, 88. 
Considered in Committee of the Whole, 131, 133. Resolution adopted, 
133. Bill C-68, Minister of Trade and Commerce. 1st R., 133. 2nd R. 
after debate, considered in Committee of the Whole, reported without 
amendment, 3rd R., 139-40. Passed by Senate, 184. R. A., 272. 10-11 
Elizabeth II, Chapter 14. 



A.D. 1962 INDEX 427 

Export Credits Insurance Corporation: 

1 . Report and financial statements for 1961, with auditor's report, 293. 
Sess. Paper No. 142. Printed. 

2. Orders in Council authorizing insurance contract for shipments of 
wheat to Poland; long-term financing for sale by Montreal Locomotive 
Works of 70 diesel electric locomotives and spare parts to Empress 
Ferrocarriles del Estado Argentino, Buenos Aires, Argentina; long- 
term financing for sale by Dominion Steel and Coal Corp. of steel 
rails and track accessories to Ferrocarriles Nacionales de Mexico; 
long-term financing for sale by Montreal Locomotive Works of 10 
diesel electric locomotives and spare parts to Companhia Siderurgica 
Nacional, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil; long-term financing for sale by 
Dominion Steel and Coal Corp. of steel rails and track accessories to 
Ferrocarriles Nacionales de Mexico, 14-5. Sess. Paper Nos. 142a- 142e. 

3. Order in Council authorizing long-term financing for sale by RCA 
Victor Company, Ltd., of telecommunications equipment and related 
services to Republic of Liberia, 61. Sess. Paper No. 142/. 

4. Order in Council authorizing revision in payment terms for sale by 
Canadair Limited of ten aircraft to Flying Tiger Line Inc. of Burbank, 
California, 248. Sess. Paper No. 1427i. 

5. Order in Council authorizing long-term financing for sale by General 
Motors Diesel Limited, in respect of Canadian content of 56 diesel 
electric locomotives and spare parts to Rede Ferroviaria Federal S.A., 
Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, 248. Sess. Paper No. 142i. 

6. Table of preliminary amounts, by countries, of actual insured exports 

based upon policyholders' declaration of contracts and shipments 
during calendar year 1961, 133. Sess. Paper No. 142g. 

7. Analysis of commodities insured for year ended Dec. 31st 1961, 289. 
Sess. Paper No. 142j. (Printed as appendix to Hansard of March 29th 
1962). 

Expropriation Act Amendment Bill: 

Bill C-52, Mr. Martin (Essex East). 1st R., 57. 

External Affairs Committee: 

Membership: 114. 

External Affairs Department: 

1. Report for 1961, 378. Sess. Paper No. 29. Printed. 

2. Order, — Return re personnel attached to Canadian Embassy in France 
since Jan. 1st 1954, etc.: Mr. Regier, 256. 

See also Disarmament; United Nations. 

External Aid: See Grants and Loans, External; Soviet Union, 4. 



Fair Employment Practices Act Amendment Bill: 

Bill C-29, Mr. Howard (age discrimination). 1st R., 22. Order for 2nd R. 
not proceeded with, dropped to foot of list on Order Paper, 271. 

Fallout, Radioactive: See Defence. 



428 HOUSE OF COMMONS 10-11 ELIZABETH II 

Family Allowance Act: 

Report of expenditures and administration for 1960-61, 15. Sess. Paper 
No. 102. 

Farm Improvement Loans Act Amendment Bill: 

Resolution, — To provide for the making of guaranteed loans during the 
period July 1st 1962 to June 30th 1965, and to establish four hundred 
million dollars as limit of guaranteed loans: House to consider in 
Committee of the Whole at next sitting, 24. Considered in Committee 
of the Whole, 196, 199, 201. Resolution adopted, 201. Bill C-73, Minister 
of Finance. 1st R., 201. 2nd R., considered in Committee of the Whole, 
reported without amendment, 3rd R., 207. Passed by Senate, 255. R.A., 
272. 10-11 Elizabeth II, Chapter 15. 

Farmers' Creditors Arrangement Act: 

Report on administration for 1960-61, 14. Sess. Paper No. 78. 

Federal-Provincial Fiscal Arrangements Act Amendment Bill: 

Resolution, — To provide an arrangement with respect to fiscal years com- 
mencing on or after April 1st 1962 similar to that provided in 
Federal-Provincial Tax-Sharing Arrangements Act with respect to 
previous fiscal years; also increase of one- third in amount of payment, 
from one dollar and fifty cents to two dollars per capita: House to 
consider in Committee of the Whole at next sitting, 359. 

Federal-provincial relations: 

1. Prime Minister's letter, dated Jan. 17th 1962, addressed to Ontario 
Premier (a similar letter was sent to all provincial premiers) re 
proposed amendment to British North America Act relating to social 
security, 25. Sess. Paper No. 185. (Printed as appendix to Hansard of 
Jan. 22nd 1962). 

2. Correspondence with provinces re proposed amendment to British 
North America Act relating to Old Age Pensions, 63. Sess. Paper 
No. 185a. (Printed as appendix to Hansard of Feb. 6th 1962). 

3 . Order, — Return showing any agreements signed by Quebec, since 
June 30th 1958 re joint projects with respect to forests, with Forestry, 
Agriculture, or Northern Affairs and National Resources departments, 
amounts paid by province: Mr. Racine, 60. Presented, 102-3. Sess. 
Paper No. 192. 

4. Address, — Correspondence between Justice Minister and Attorneys 
General or other provincial ministers, since July 1st 1960 re method 
of amending Constitution of Canada: Mr. Pickersgill for Mr. Chevrier, 
285-6. Presented, 307. Sess. Paper No. 227. 

Ferry Service, Argentia: See Newfoundland. 

Finance Department: 

Order, — Correspondence, etc., since Jan. 1st 1961 re wage-rates status of 
building tradesmen: Mr. Winch, 234. 

Financial Administration Act Amendment Bill: 

Bill C-10, Mr. Habel for Mr. Boulanger (bilingual negotiable instru- 
ments). 1st R., 20. Order for 2nd R. read and not proceeded with, 
dropped to foot of list on Order Paper, 140. 

See also Negotiable Instruments in English and French Act Bill. 



A.D. 1962 INDEX 429 

Fire and Casualty Insurance report: See Insurance, Superintendent of, 1. 
Fisheries Committee: See Marine and Fisheries Committee. 

Fisheries Department: 

1. Report for 1960, and financial statements for 1960-61, 32. Sess. Paper 
No. 69. Printed. 

2. Order, — Return re legal fees paid from April 1st 1957 to March 31st 
1962 in New Brunswick and Nova Scotia, names and addresses of 
recipients, amounts: Mr. Robichaud, 332. 

See also Coastal Fisheries Protection Act Amendment Bill; Deep Sea 
Fisheries Act; Territorial Waters. 

Fisheries Improvement Loans Act Amendment Bill: 

Resolution, — To extend period during which guaranteed loans may be 
made to the 30th day of June 1965: House to consider in Committee 
of the Whole at next sitting, 24. Considered in Committee of the Whole, 
resolution adopted, Bill C-74, Minister of Finance, 1st R., 201. 2nd R., 
considered in Committee of the Whole, reported without amendment, 
3rd R., 208. Passed by Senate, 255. R.A., 272. 10-11 Elizabeth II, 
Chapter 16. 

Fisheries Research Board of Canada: 

Report for 1960-61, 147. Sess. Paper No. 71. Printed. 

Flag, National: 

Referendum concerning adoption of Canadian flag: motion (Mr. Regnier) 
moved and debate interrupted, 122. 

Flag of Canada Act Bill: 

Bill C-31, Mr. Deschatelets for Mr. Boulanger. 1st R., 22. Order for 2nd R. 
not proceeded with, dropped to foot of list on Order Paper, 271. 

Flag of Canada and official anthem: 

Motion (Mr. Pigeon), — Special committee be set up to study ways and 
means of providing flag of Canada and official anthem: moved and 
debate interrupted, 42. 

See also National Sovereignty Act Bill. 

Foreign affairs: See External Affairs Department. 

Forestry Department: 

1. Report for 1960-61, 13. Sess. Paper No. 73. Printed. 

2. Order, — Return re representative of Economics Division addressing 
joint meeting of Canadian and American foresters in Minneapolis, 
name, qualifications, etc.: Mr. Fisher — presented forthwith, 118. Sess. 
Paper No. 73a. 

See also Federal-Provincial relations, 3. 

Freight Rates Reduction Act Amendment Bill: 

Resolution, — To extend, but not beyond 30th April 1963, period during 
which revised rates shall be applicable and to increase authorized 
expenditure by fifteen million dollars: House to consider in Com- 
mittee of the Whole at next sitting, 302. 



430 HOUSE OF COMMONS 10-11 ELIZABETH II 



Garlick Films Limited: See Restrictive Trade Practices Commission, 1. 

General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade: 

1 . Interim Agreement between Canada and United States re tariff negotia- 
tions pursuant to Article XXVIII, 205. Sess. Paper No. 212. Summary 
of schedules annexed to agreement indicating concessions received and 
given by Canada, 205. Sess. Paper No. 212a. 

2. Summary of main tariff concessions arising from U.S. negotiations 
with countries other than Canada during GATT Conference, 325. Sess. 
Paper No. 212b. 

3. Declaration on provisional accession of Swiss Confederation, 374. Sess. 
Paper No. 33m. 

4. Declaration on provisional accession of Tunisia, 374. Sess. Paper No. 33o. 

5. Protocols for accession of Israel and Portugal, 381. Sess. Paper Nos. 
212d, 212c. 

Gerand Acceptance Company Act Bill: 

Petition to incorporate received, 86. Reported by Examiner of Petitions, 136. 
Bill S-10, Mr. Smith (Winnipeg North). Received from Senate, 1st R., 
239. 2nd R. after debate, referred to Banking and Commerce Com- 
mittee, 252. Reported without amendment, 319. Considered in Com- 
mittee of the Whole, 3rd R., 352. R.A., 385. 10-11 Elizabeth II, 
Chapter 43. 

Gold Mining Assistance: See Emergency Gold Mining Assistance Act. 

Government contracts, purchases, properties, etc.: 

(a) Order, — Return re any land in vicinity of Bank Street and Riverside 
Drive, Ottawa, sold since Jan. 1st 1959, quantity, price, etc.: Miss 
LaMarsh, 58. Presented, 122-3. Sess. Paper No. 194. 

(b) Order, — Copy of report declaring land (being part of Lot 19, Junction 
Gore, Gloucester Township) surplus as referred to in Sessional Paper 
No. 194, tabled on 14th Feb., 1962: Mr. Mcllraith, 315. 

See also Public Construction, Goods and Services Bill; Public Contract 
Delivery Bill. 

Government departments: 

1 . Order, — Return re number employed in information divisions of all 
departments, in 1957, payroll: Mr. Pitman, 194. 

2. Order, — Return re any requests made by government departments to 
Management Analysis Division, Civil Service Commission, in 1961, 
departments involved, surveys, estimated annual savings: Mr. McGee, 
368. 

3. Order, — Return re employment of private management consultation 
firms by government departments, which departments involved, names 
of organizations: Mr. McGee, 368. 

4. Industry Department, consideration to advisability of setting up: 
motion (Mr. Beech), moved, debate interrupted, 369. 



A.D. 1962 INDEX 431 

Government Expenditure and Revenue: 

Order, — Return showing receipts and disbursements for all purposes for 

years 1956 to 1961: Mr. Matheson, 99. Presented, 141. Sess. Paper 

No. 198. 
See also Ways and Means — Budget, 7. 

Grain Act Amendment Bills: 

1. Bill C-15, Mr. Rapp (rapeseed and mustard seed). 1st R., 21. 2nd R. 
moved and debate interrupted, 184. 

2. Bill S-19, Minister of Agriculture (rapeseed and mustard seed). 
Received from Senate, 289. 1st R., 296. 2nd R. after debate, considered 
in Committee of the Whole, reported without amendment, 347. 3rd R., 
350. R.A., 385. 10-11 Elizabeth II, Chapter 25. 

Grants and loans. External: 

Return to Order of House, dated July 12th 1961, showing Canadian 
external assistance grants and loans for each year since Second World 
War, percentage of National Income, etc., 386. Sess. Paper No. 237. 

Greymac Mortgage Corporation Act Bill: 

Petition received to incorporate, 185. Reported by Examiner of Petitions, 
227. Bill S-18, Mr. McCleave. Received from Senate, 1st R., 289. 2nd 
R. after debate, referred to Banking and Commerce Committee, 310. 
Reported without amendment, 349. Considered in Committee of the 
Whole, reported without amendment, 3rd R., 376. R.A., 385. 10-11 
Elizabeth II, Chapter 44. 

H 
Halifax constituency, renaming: See Representation Act Amendment Bills, 2. 

Harbours Board: 

1. Report for 1961, with auditor's report, 306. Sess. Paper No. 165. 

2. Capital budget for 1962, 30. Sess. Paper No. 165a. 

Harbours, wharves and breakwaters: 

1. Order, — Return showing, between 1949 and 1957, whether construc- 
tion of wharf at Macamic Lake, County of Chapleau, or cleaning 
operations near Macamic Lake, or vicinity of town of Macamic and 
municipality of Royal-Roussillon, ever carried out, cost, wages, mate- 
rials, etc.: Mr. Martel, 59-60. Presented, 231. Sess. Paper No. 170a. 

2. Address, — Correspondence with Nova Scotia, since Jan. 1st 1956 re 
construction of breakwater-causeway at Port Hood, Inverness County, 
N.S.: Mr. Caron for Mr. Robichaud, 234. Presented, 356. Sess. Paper 
No. 170b. 

See also Moosonee. 

Health and Welfare Department: See National Health and Welfare Department. 

Health insurance: 

National system, consideration to introducing: motion (Mr. Martin, Tim- 

mins), moved and debate interrupted, 347. 
See also Hospital Insurance and Diagnostic Services Act. 



432 HOUSE OF COMMONS 10-11 ELIZABETH II 

Highways: See Roads; Roads to Resources Program; Trans-Canada Highway. 

Hospital Insurance and Diagnostic Services Act: 

Report on operations of agreements with provinces for 1960-61, 15. 
Sess. Paper No. 104. Printed. 

Hospital Sweepstakes Act Bill: 

Bill C-2, Mr. Browne (Vancouver-Kingsway). 1st R., 19. 2nd R. moved 

and debate interrupted, 38. 
See also Lottery Bill. 

Hospitals: 

Order, — Return re annual wage bill for all hospital employees in Canada, 
number of employees, etc.: Mr. Macnaughton, 332. 

House of Commons: 

1. Commissioners of Internal Economy appointed, 6. 

2. Report of Internal Economy Commissioners (Nov. 17th 1960 to Jan. 
17th 1962), 8. Sess. Paper No. 2. 

3. Reports of Civil Service Commission revising salary range of certain 
employees in Law Branch, Restaurant, and Parliamentary Library, 
214-7. Approved, 223. 

4. Experimental tape recording of debates, progress report by Mr. 
Speaker, 237-8. 

5. List of outstanding Returns to Orders of House as of April 13th 1962, 
374. Sess. Paper No. 232. 

See also Adjournments, Special; Membership changes; Procedure; Sittings 
of the House; Speaker's rulings and statements. 

House of Commons Act Amendment Bills: 

1. Bill C-17, Mr. Howard (Internal Economy autonomy). 1st R., 21. 
2nd R. moved and debate interrupted, 200. 

2. Bill C-20, Mr. Pickersgill (election writs for by-elections). 1st R., 
21. 2nd R. moved and debate interrupted, 212. 

Housing: See Central Mortgage and Housing Corporation; International Labour 
Organization. 

I 

Immigrants: 

Return of permits issued under authority of Act for 1961, 35. Sess. Paper 

No. 17. 
See also Citizenship and Immigration Department. 

Immigration: 

Immigration Regulations, Part I, made by Order in Council P.C. 1962-86, 
and Part II made by Ministerial Order, 17. Sess. Paper No. 17a. 

Import and Export Permits: See Export and Import Permits Act. 

Imports, Customs Duties on: See National Revenue Department, 4. 



A.D. 1962 INDEX 433 

Income Tax Act Amendment Bill: 

Bill C-82, Mr. Martin (Timmins). Motion for leave to introduce, agreed 
to, 301. Motion for first reading, negatived on recorded division, 301-2. 
See also Ways and Means, 8 and 9. 

Independence Day, National: See National Sovereignty Act Bill. 

Indian Act Amendment Bill: 

Bill C-26, Mr. Howard (liquor rights). 1st R., 22. Order for 2nd R. not 

proceeded with, dropped to foot of list on Order Paper, 271. 
See also Court of Indian Claims Act Bill. 

Indian affairs: 

1. Number and amount of loans to Indians in 1961-62, 365. Sess, Paper 

No. 18c. 

2. Return to Order of House, dated Sept. 13th 1961, showing whether, 
since Nov. 1st 1960, any Indian Band in British Columbia submitted 
a resolution to Citizenship and Immigration Minister asking that 
Section 96A(2) of Indian Act be proclaimed in force, name, etc., 12. 
Sess. Paper No. 18a. 

3. Address, — Correspondence, etc., between Mrs. Bernadette Grey of 
Fort Fraser, B.C., and the Superintendent- General of Indian Affairs, 
or any other official, since Jan. 1st 1960 re Indian handicrafts or 
imitation Indian handicrafts imported from Japan: Mr. Howard, 48. 
Presented, 61. Sess. Paper No. 18b. 

4. Order, — Copy of study by interdepartmental committee into recom- 
mendations of commission to inquire into all matters arising out of 
unfulfilled provisions of treaties 8 and 11 as applied to Indians of 
Mackenzie District: Mr. Howard — negatived on recorded division, 
206-7. 

5. Address, — Copy of any information in hands of Chief Electoral 
Officer re numbers and locations of Indians in Port Arthur Con- 
stituency, etc.: Mr. Fisher, 316. Presented, 335. Sess. Paper No. lc. 

6. Order, — Directives issued by Citizenship and Immigration Minister, 
• or Indian Affairs Branch, since Jan. 1st 1960, to any employee, and 

in particular to Paul Brett, Forester, re proposed sale of timber 
situated on Tsimpsean Indian Reserve No. 2: Mr. Howard — negatived 
on recorded division, 316-7. 

7. Address, — List of names of each Indian Reserve in British Columbia, 
and band name to which each reserve belongs, which has had a 
timber survey conducted under direction of Paul Brett, Forester of 
Indian Affairs Branch, results of surveys, plans for sale, etc.: Mr. 
Howard, 317. 

8. Address, — Correspondence, etc., since Jan. 1st 1954 re proposed or 
actual sales of timber situated on Tsimpsean Indian Reserve No. 2: 
Mr. Howard, 317. 

9. Address, — Copy of resolutions dealing with proposed or actual sales 
of timber situated on Tsimpsean Indian Reserve No. 2, passed by 
Tsimpsean Indian Band or Band Council: Mr. Howard, 317. 

10. Order, — Return re medical services available to Indians on Halfway, 
Blueberry, Prophet River, Doig River reserves, etc.: Mr. Matheson, 
331. Presented, 387. Sess. Paper No. 18d. 

11. Order, — Correspondence, etc., between Citizenship and Immigration 
Minister and any employee of Indian Affairs Branch, since Jan. 1st 
1954 re sales of timber situated on Tsimpsean Indian Reserve No. 2: 
Mr. Howard — negatived on recorded division, 346-7. 



434 HOUSE OF COMMONS 10-11 ELIZABETH II 

Industrial Development Bank: 

Statement of accounts and president's report for year ended Sept. 30th 
1961, 13. Sess. Paper No. 53. Printed. 

Industrial disputes: 

Order, — Return showing if any government-owned vehicle crossed any 
picket line in British Columbia, established by Retail, Wholesale and 
Department Store Union (AFL-CIO/CLC), etc.: Mr. Howard, 59. 
Presented, 230-1. Sess. Paper No. 215. 

Industrial Relations and Disputes Investigation Act Amendment Bills: 

1. Bill C-5, Mr. Howard. 1st R., 20. 2nd R. moved and debate inter- 
rupted, 51. 

2. Bill C-ll, Mr. Howard (application to civil service). 1st R. 20. 2nd 
R. moved and debate interrupted, 90. 

Industrial Relations Committee: 

Membership: 114. 

Industry Department: See Private Members Resolutions, 21. 
Information Divisions: See Government departments, 1. 

Insurance, Superintendent of: 

1 . Report, Volume II — Annual statements — Fire and casualty insurance 
companies, and of accident and sickness insurance for 1960, 13. Sess. 
Paper No. 54. Printed. 

2. Report re co-operative credit societies for 1960, 25. Sess. Paper No. 47. 
Printed. 

3. Report re small loans companies and money-lenders for 1960, 55. 
Sess. Paper No. 65. Printed. 

4. Report re loan and trust companies for 1960, 173. Sess. Paper No. 56. 
Printed. 

Interest Act Amendment Bills: 

1. Bill C-6, Mr. Nasserden (finance charges). 1st R., 20. 2nd R. moved 
and debate interrupted, 63-4. 

2. Bill C-8, Mr. Argue (12 per cent). 1st R., 20. Order for 2nd R. not 
proceeded with, dropped to foot of Order Paper, 132. 

See also Small Loans Bill. 

Interim Supply: See Supply; Ways and Means. 

Internal Economy Commissioners: See House of Commons; House of Commons 
Act Amendment Bills, 1. 

International Labour Organization: 

Convention and recommendation of Conference, together with letter from 
Deputy Attorney General of Canada, setting out legislative jurisdiction 
of these international instruments, as follows: Convention re partial 
revision of Conventions for purpose of standardising preparation of 
reports on working of conventions; Recommendation re workers' 
housing, 15. Sess. Paper No. 85. Printed. 



A.D. 1962 INDEX 435 

International Migratory Bird Committee: See Canada-United States relations. 

International River Improvements Act: 

Report of operations for 1961, 11. Sess. Paper No. 115. 

International Wheat Agreement, 1962: See Agreements, protocols, exchange of 
notes, treaties, etc. 

Interparliamentary Group: See Canada-United States Interparliamentary Group. 

Inverness-Richmond constituency, renaming: See Representation Act Amendment 
Bills, 4. 

Investment in Canada: 

Private and Public Investment in Canada — Outlook 1962 and Regional 
Estimates, 219. Sess. Paper No. 147. Printed. 

I 

Joint Economic and Trade Committee: See Canada-United States Joint Economic 
and Trade Committee. 

Joliette and Brandon Railway Company: See Canadian Pacific Railway Company 
Act Bill. 

Judges Act Amendment Bill: 

Resolution, — To provide salaries for two additional judges of Trial Division 
of Supreme Court of Ontario and seven additional judges of County 
and District Courts of Ontario: House to consider in Committee of the 
Whole at next sitting, 276. Resolution adopted, 304. Bill C-84, Minister 
of Justice. 1st R., 304. 2nd R., considered in Committee of the Whole, 
reported without amendment, 3rd R., 309. Passed by Senate, 321. R.A., 
322. 10-11 Elizabeth II, Chapter 22. 

Justice Department: 

Address, — Correspondence and memoranda between Justice Department and 
any other government department, etc., re release of John Papilia: 
Mr. Martin (Essex East), 345-6. Presented, 378. Sess. Paper No. 235. 

Juvenile Delinquents Act: 

Committee to review: motion (Mr. Aiken), moved and debate inter- 
rupted, 277. 

Juvenile Delinquents Act Amendment Bill: 
Bill C-57, Mr. Broome. 1st R., 87. 



Labour Department: 

Report for 1960-61, 15. Sess. Paper No. 82. Printed. 

Labour Unions Returns: See Corporations and Labour Unions Returns Act Bill. 

Legal fees paid by government departments: See under name of particular agency 
or department. 



436 HOUSE OF COMMONS 10-11 ELIZABETH II 

Library of Parliament: 

1 . Report of Librarian, 8-9. 

2. Regulations on Library, adopted by Joint Committee on Library of 
Parliament, on recommendation of Committee on Procedure, 9-10. 

3. Senate membership on Joint Committee, 33. 

4. House membership on Joint Committee, 116. Message to Senate, 117. 

5. Report of Civil Service Commission revising salary range of certain 
employees, 215-7. Approved, 223. 

6. Report of Civil Service Commission re Cataloguing Librarian, 226-7. 
Approved, 276. 

Loan and Trust Companies report: See Insurance, Superintendent of, 3, 4. 

Lottery Act Bill: 

Bill C-30, Mr. Pigeon. 1st R., 22. Order for 2nd R. not proceeded with, 

dropped to foot of list on Order Paper, 271. 
See also Hospital Sweepstakes Bill. 

M 

Mackenzie River constituency, renaming: See Representation Act Amendment 
Bills, 1. 

Management Analysis and Consultation: See Government departments, 2, 3. 

Marine and Fisheries Committee: 

Membership: 113. 

Maritime Marshland Rehabilitation Act: 

Report for 1960-61, 217. Sess. Paper No. 12. Printed. 

Martineau, Paul, Esq., M.P.: 

Appointed Deputy Speaker and Chairman of Committees of the Whole 

House, 8. 
See also Committees of the Whole House; Speaker's rulings and statements. 

Matane and Gaspe Railway Company, Agreement dated 1909: See Canadian 
National Railways, 13. 

Member, Reported to House and Suspended: See Speaker's rulings and state- 
ments, 9. 

Members of Parliament: 

Indemnity, consideration to increasing: motion (Mr. Fisher), moved and 
debate adjourned on motion (Mr. Pallett), 246-7. 

Members of Parliament Retiring Allowances Act: 
Report for 1961-62, 335. Sess. Paper No. 58. 

Membership changes: 

Vacancies: Mackenzie River (decease of Mervyn Arthur Hardie, Esq.), 187; 
Nicolet-Yamaska (appointment as Lieutenant Governor of Quebec of 
Hon. Paul Comtois), 187-8. 

Merchant Seamen Compensation Act Amendment Bill: 

Bill C-39, Mr. Carter. 1st R., 23. 2nd R. moved and debate interrupted, 271. 



A.D. 1962 INDEX 437 

Migratory Bird Committee, International: See Canada-United States relations. 

Mines and Technical Surveys Department: 

Report for 1960, 64. Sess. Paper No. 90. Printed. 

Mines, Forests and Waters Committee: 

Membership: 113. 

Minimum Wage Act Bill: 

Bill C-42, Mr. Peters. 1st R., 27. 2nd R. moved and debate interrupted, 365. 

Mint, Royal Canadian: 

Report of Master for 1961, 284. Sess. Paper No. 59. Printed. 

Miscellaneous Private Bills Committee: 

1. Membership: 110. 

2. Bills referred: Evangelical Mennonite Mission Conference, 251; Salva- 
tion Army, Governing Council of, 283; United Church of Canada, 310; 
divorce, 353-5. 

3. Reports: First (quorum reduced), 285; Second (Evangelical Men- 
nonite Conference Bill), 285; Third (Salvation Army Bill, Governing 
Council of), 295; Fourth (United Church of Canada Bill), 320; Fifth 
(divorce bills), 367. 

4. Reports concurred in: First, 285. 

Moosonee: 

Address, — Correspondence, etc., since Jan. 1st 1959, with any government, 
agency or department re economic or feasibility survey to examine the 
possibilities of establishing a saltwater port at Moosonee: Mr. Peters, 
206. 

Municipal Improvements Assistance Act: 

Report of operations for 1961, 35. Sess. Paper No. 60. 

Municipal Winter Works Incentive Program: See Public works. 

Muttart Mortgage Corporation Act Bill: 

Petition received to convert Muttart Development Corporation Ltd. into 
loan company under name of Muttart Mortgage Corporation, 141. 
Reported by Examiner of Petitions, 144. Bill S-7, Mr. Maloney. 
Received from Senate, 1st R., 188. 2nd R. after debate, referred to 
Banking and Commerce Committee, 200. Reported without amend- 
ment, 233. Considered in Committee of the Whole, reported without 
amendment, 3rd R., 239. R.A., 272. 10-11 Elizabeth II, Chapter 45. 

Mutual Life Assurance Company of Canada Act Amendment Bill: 

Petition received to amend Act of incorporation, 86. Reported by Examiner 
of Petitions, 136. Bill S-3, Mr. Weichel. Received from Senate, 1st R., 
160. 2nd R. after debate, referred to Banking and Commerce Com- 
mittee, 182. Reported without amendment, 233. Considered in Com- 
mittee of the Whole, reported without amendment, 3rd R., 239. R.A., 
272. 10-11 Elizabeth II, Chapter 32. 



438 HOUSE OF COMMONS 10-11 ELIZABETH II 

N 

Nanaimo constituency, renaming: See Representation Act Amendment Bills, 3. 

National anthem: See National Sovereignty Act Bill; Private Members' Resolu- 
tions, 1. 

National Capital Commission: 

Capital budget for 1962-63, 366. Sess. Paper No. 130a. 

National Defence Department: 

1. Order, — Return re rates of pay for prevailing rates employees in 
Toronto area, etc.: Mr. Herridge, 118. Presented, 153. Sess. Paper 
No. 202. 

2. Order, — Return showing amounts paid to Catholic schools, Montreal, 
during 1959, 1960, and 1961 for militia training: Mr. Dupuis, 246. 
Presented, 292-3. Sess. Paper No. 225. 

3. Order, — Copies of all tender calls issued to date, bids, correspondence 
re property bought for National Defence Department in Coquitlam: 
Mr. Regier, 315. 

4. Order, — Return re legal fees paid from April 1st 1957 to March 31st 
1962 in New Brunswick and Nova Scotia, names and addresses of 
recipients, amounts: Mr. Robichaud, 332. 

See also Defence; Disarmament. 

National Energy Board Act Amendment Bill: See Energy Board Act Amendment 
Bill. 

National Flag of Canada Act Bill: See Flag of Canada Act Bill. 

National Gallery of Canada: 

Report for 1960-61, 150. Sess. Paper No. 20. Printed. 

National Harbours Board: See Harbours Board. 

National Health and Welfare Department: 

Report for 1960-61, 162. Sess. Paper No. 98. Printed. 

National Health Insurance: See Health Insurance. 

National Independence Day: See National Sovereignty Act Bill. 

National Power Grid: See Power Grid. 

National Revenue Department: 

1. Report for 1960-61, 25-6. Sess. Paper No. 108. Printed. 

2. Order, — Return showing titles of each book banned or prohibited 
entry into Canada since 1952, reason, official making examination, 
etc.: Mr. Herridge, 81-2. 

3. Order, — Return showing if Customs and Excise had any information 
that gas or gasoline powered lift trucks, having a maximum lifting 
capacity of 4,000 pounds, etc., were made in Canada in years 1953-58, 
and 1959 prior to budget, by whom made, etc.: Mr. Benidickson, 193. 



A.D. 1962 INDEX 439 

National Revenue Department — (Concluded) 

4. Address, — Rulings, directives, regulations and prescriptions of the 
Minister, Orders in Council, issued under authority of ss. 39, 40, 40A 
and 40B, and ministerial orders issued since April 17th 1961 under 
s. 38, of Customs Act for purposes of fixing duties on imports: Mr. 
Benidickson, 315. 

5. Order, — Return re legal fees paid from April 1st 1957 to March 31st 
1962 in New Brunswick and Nova Scotia, names and addresses of 
recipients, amounts: Mr. Robichaud, 332. 

National Sovereignty Act Bill: 

Bill C-25, Mr. Dubois for Mr. Allard. 1st R., 22. 2nd R. moved and debate 
interrupted, 252. 

National Transportation Policy: See Private Members Resolutions, 16. 

Natural resources, refunds: See Refunds (Natural Resources) Act. 

Negotiable Instruments in English and French Act Bill: 

Bill C-18, Mr. Pigeon. 1st R., 21. Order for 2nd R. called and not proceeded 

with, dropped to foot of list on Order Paper, 220. 
See also Financial Administration Act Amendment Bill. 

Newfoundland: 

Address, — Communications between Newfoundland Premier and Trans- 
port Minister, since Jan. 1st 1962 re proposed ferry service to Argentia: 
Mr. Pickersgill, 256. 

Newspapers: 

Order, — Return showing, since Nov. 1st 1961, any money paid, owed to, 
any editor, publisher, or other representative of any newspaper, 
excluding payments for advertisements, name, address, newspaper, 
amount: Mr. Howard, 117. Presented, 209. Sess. Paper No. 210. 

North Atlantic Treaty Organization: 

Text of declaration of Paris, issued by delegates to Atlantic Convention of 

NATO Nations, held Jan. 8-20, 1962, 157. Sess. Paper No. 201a. 
See also Atlantic Citizens Convention. 

Northern Affairs and National Resources Department: 

1. Report for 1960-61, 227. Sess. Paper No. 112. Printed. 

2. Order, — Return re Hydraulics Division of Water Resources Branch: 
Mr. Herridge, 223-4. Presented, 366. Sess. Paper No. 112c. 

3. Order, — Return re legal fees paid from April 1st 1957 to March 31st 
1962 in New Brunswick and Nova Scotia, names and addresses of 
recipients, amounts: Mr. Robichaud, 332. Presented, 374. Sess. Paper 
No. 234. 

4. Order, — Return re compensation for prevailing rates employees in 
national parks and national historic parks, present hourly rate, etc.: 
Mr. Robichaud — presented forthwith, 367-8. Sess. Paper No. 233. 

5. Order, — Return re names, salaries, and expenses of superintendent and 
administrative staff at Revelstoke National Park for 1960-61, houses 
built, cars, vehicles, machinery, employed on projects undertaken by 
contracts, etc.: Mr. Herridge, 368. 

See also Roads to Resources Program. 



440 HOUSE OF COMMONS 10-11 ELIZABETH II 

Northern Ontario Pipe Line Crown Corporation: 

1. Report for 1961, with auditor's report, 356. Sess. Paper No. 145. 
Printed. 

2. Capital budget for 1962, 15. Sess. Paper No. 145a. 

Northern Transportation Company Limited: 

1. Report for 1961, with auditor's report, 323. Sess. Paper No. 141. 
Printed. 

2. Capital budget for 1962, 14. Sess. Paper No. 141a. 

3. Order, — Return re tons and ton miles of freight moved, during years 
1959, 1960, and 1961, etc.: Mr. Nielsen, 330-1. 

Northwest Territories: 

1 . Ordinances made by Commissioner in Council, assented to Jan. 25th 
1962, 164. Sess. Paper No. 118. 

2. Representation for Keewatin-Franklin districts: See Representation 
Act Amendment Bills, 1. 

See also Elections, 1. 

Notices of Motions (Papers), Debates on: See Procedure, 44. 
Notices of Motions for Production of Papers: See Returns Ordered. 



Oaths of Office Bill (pro forma) : 

Bill C-l, Prime Minister, Act respecting the Administration of Oaths of 
Office, 1st R., 2. 

Old Age Assistance Act: 

Report on administration for 1960-61, 387. Sess. Paper No. 105. Printed. 

Old Age Assistance Act Amendment Bill: 

Resolution, — To increase to sixty-five dollars per month maximum amount 
of assistance, and to increase total amount of allowable income, etc.: 
House to consider in Committee of the Whole at next sitting, 40. 
Considered in Committee of the Whole, 61, 83. Resolution adopted, 83. 
Bill C-55, Minister of National Health and Welfare. 1st R., 83. 2nd R. 
after debate, considered in Committee of the Whole, reported without 
amendment, 3rd R., 93-4. Passed by Senate, 122. R.A., 133. 10-11 
Elizabeth II, Chapter 4. 

Old Age Pensions: See Federal-Provincial relations re proposed BNA Act 
amendment. 

Old age security: 

Order, — Return re any representations to effect that industrial non- 
contributory pensions reduced by amount of recent increase in old age 
security, regulations, etc.: Mr. Caron, 206. Presented, 265. Sess. Paper 
No. 222. 

Old Age Security Act: 

Report of expenditures and administration for 1960-61, 15. Sess. Paper 
No. 102. 



A.D. 1962 INDEX 441 

Old Age Security Act Amendment Bill: 

Resolution, — To increase amount of monthly pension payable thereunder to 
sixty-five dollars per month: House to consider in Committee of the 
Whole at next sitting, 39. Considered in Committee of the Whole, 60, 61. 
Resolution adopted, 61. Bill C-54, Minister of National Health and 
Welfare. 1st R., 61. 2nd R. after debate, 63, 64. Considered in Com- 
mittee of the Whole, reported without amendment, 64. 3rd R., 83. 
Passed by Senate, 122. R.A., 133. 10-11 Elizabeth II, Chapter 5. 

Orders for Returns: See Returns Ordered and "Motions for Papers" under 
Procedure. 

Orders in Council: 

1. Summaries of Orders passed Aug. 1st 1961 to Feb. 28th 1962: 10, 
140, 243. Sess. Papers Nos. 126, 126a, 126b. 

2. Order,— Order in Council P.C. 1961-1012 of July 13th 1961: Mr. 
Mcllraith — presented forthwith, 234. Sess. Paper No. 8a. 

See also Statutory Orders and Regulations. 

P 

Papalia, John: See Justice Department. 

Paris Declaration: See North Atlantic Treaty Organization. 

Park Steamship Company Limited: 

Report for 1961, with auditor's report, 95. Sess. Paper No. 166. 

Parliamentary Proctor and Costs Taxation Act Bill: 

Bill C-41, Mr. Peters. 1st R., 27. 2nd R. moved; Mr. Speaker stated that 
bill had some characteristics of money bill, or one that required 
resolution, but that he would allow debate to proceed as case was 
not quite as clear as it might be; and debate arising on 2nd R. motion, 
was interrupted, 326-7. 

Parliamentary Restaurant: 

1. Senate membership on Joint Committee, 33. 

2. House membership on Joint Committee, 117. Message to Senate, 117. 

3. Report of Civil Service Commission creating position of cashier, 
213-4. Approved, 223. 

Peace Research Institute: See Canadian Peace Research Institute. 

Penitentiaries: 

Report of Commissioner for 1960-61, 86. Sess. Paper No. 79. Printed. 

Pension Act Amendment Bill: 

Bill C-21, Mr. Mcintosh (judicial appeal). 1st R., 21. 2nd R. moved and 
debate interrupted, 229. 

See also Civilian War Pensions and Allowances Act Amendment Bill. 
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442 HOUSE OF COMMONS 10-11 ELIZABETH II 

Pension Commission: 

1. Report for 1960-61, 18. Sess. Paper No. 171. Printed. 

2. Order, — Return showing number of applications under Competition 
No. 62-452 for Pension Medical Advisers (Medical Officer 4) with 
Canadian Pension Commission, selection board, applications from 
veterans, etc.: Mr. Benidickson, 314. Presented, 335. Sess. Paper 
No. 133a. 

Pensions: 

Vesting rights, disallowance of employer's claims for deduction for income 
tax purposes: motion (Mr. McMillan) moved and debate interrupted, 
100. 

See also Public Service, 3. 

Petitions: See Clerk of Petitions; Divorce Bills and Petitions; Examiner of Peti- 
tions; Standing Orders Committee — and under titles of particular 
private bills. 

Petroleum and Pulpwood Regulations: See Export Act. 

Polaris Pipe Lines Act Bill: 

Petition received to incorporate, 141. Reported by Examiner of Petitions, 
227. Bill S-13, Mr. Baldwin. Received from Senate, 1st R., 270. 2nd R. 
after debate and referred to Railways, Canals and Telegraph Lines 
Committee, 282. Reported without amendment, 295. Committee evi- 
dence and proceedings recorded as Appendix 4 to Journals, 295-6. 
Reported with recommendation re capital stock, 296. Considered in 
Committee of the Whole, reported without amendment, 3rd R., 310. 
R.A., 322. 10-11 Elizabeth II, Chapter 37. 

Polymer Corporation Limited: 

1. Report for 1961, with auditor's report, 300. Sess. Paper No. 28. Printed. 

2. Capital budget for 1962, 32. Sess. Paper No. 28a. 

Ports: See Harbours, wharves and breakwaters; Moosonee. 

Post Office Act Amendment Bill: 

Bill C-88, Postmaster General. 1st R., 381. 

Post Office buildings: See Public works, 1, 7, 8. 

Post Office Department: 

1. Report for 1960-61, 284. Sess. Paper No. 122. Printed. 

2. Order, — Return showing if any revenue post offices contained in 
premises of Hudson's Bay Company, name of postmaster, etc.: Mr. 
Howard — presented forthwith, 80. Sess. Paper No. 122b. 

See also Public works, 1, 7, 8. 

Power Grid, National: 

1. Establishment of National Power Grid: motion (Mr. Peters), moved 
and debate interrupted, 48. 

2. Address, — Correspondence, etc., with each province, since Jan. 1st 
1961 re establishment of national power grid system: Mr. Argue, 82. 
Presented, 141. Sess. Paper No. 199. 



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Power Grid, National — (Concluded) 

3. Correspondence between Prime Minister and provincial premiers re 
federal-provincial meeting of ministers on March 19th 1962 regarding 
problems of generation and transmission of electrical energy through- 
out Canada (National Power Grid), 253-4. Sess. Paper No. 199a. 

Prairie Farm Assistance Act: 

1. Report on activities for crop year ended July 31st 1961, 18. Sess. 
Paper No. 13. Printed. (French, 61. Printed.) 

2. Motion (Mr. Argue), — Consideration to advisability of amending to 
increase benefits under: moved and debate interrupted, 208. 

Printing Bureau: See Public Printing and Stationery Department. 

Printing of Parliament (Joint) Committee: 

Senate membership, 33. House membership, 116. Message to Senate, 117. 
Private and Public Investment in Canada, report: See Investment in 
Canada. Private Members Resolution debated: 

Private and Public Investment in Canada, report: See Investment in Canada. 

Private Members Resolutions debated: 

1 . Flag of Canada and official anthem, special committee to study ways 
and means of providing: motion (Mr. Pigeon), moved and debate 
interrupted, 42. 

2. Power grid, National, consideration to advisability of establishing: 
motion (Mr. Peters), moved and debate interrupted, 48. 

3. Centennial grant for Vancouver coliseum: motion (Mr. Taylor), moved 
and debate interrupted, 60. 

4. Adult Education Research Council, National: motion (Mr. Pitman), 
moved and debate interrupted, 84. 

5. Pensions, vesting, disallowance of employer's claims for deductions 
for income tax purposes: motion (Mr. McMillan), moved and debate 
interrupted, 100. 

6. Flag, National, consideration to advisability of providing for refer- 
endum re adoption: motion (Mr. Regnier), moved and debate inter- 
rupted, 122. 

7. Advertising, fraudulent and misleading, survey committee: motion 
(Mr. MacRae), moved and debate interrupted, 176. 

8. Television service to remote areas and communities: motion (Mr. 
Howard), moved and debate interrupted, 194. 

9. Prairie Farm Assistance Act, consideration to advisability of increas- 
ing benefits: motion (Mr. Argue), moved and debate interrupted, 208. 

10. Continental shelf, offshore mineral rights: motion (Mr. Winch), 
moved and debate interrupted, 225-6. 

11. Unemployment Insurance Act, consideration to advisability of provid- 
ing seasonal benefits for farm labourers: motion (Mr. Rapp), moved 
and debate interrupted, 234. 

12. Members of Parliament, consideration to need for increasing indem- 
nity: motion (Mr. Fisher), moved and debate adjourned on motion 
(Mr. Pallett), 246-7. 

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444 HOUSE OF COMMONS 10-11 ELIZABETH II 

Private Members Resolutions debated — (Concluded) 

13. Elections, campaign expenditures, limiting, special committee to study: 
motion (Mr. Pickersgill), moved and debate interrupted, 247. 

14. Education, greater federal assistance, committee to study: motion (Mr. 
Morton), moved and debate interrupted, 258. 

15. Juvenile Delinquents Act, committee to review: motion (Mr. Aiken), 
moved and debate interrupted, 277. 

16. Transportation, development of national policy: motion (Mr. Regier), 
moved and debate interrupted, 286. 

17. Tariff Board recommendations on textiles, Banking and Commerce 
Committee to study: motion (Mr. Allard), moved and debate in- 
terrupted, 304. 

18 . Water Pollution Control Division, consideration to advisability of creat- 
ing: motion (Mr. Herridge), moved and debate interrupted, 318. 

19. Vancouver and Sea Island, consideration to advisability of constructing 
bridge or tunnel connecting: motion (Mr. Drysdale), moved and debate 
interrupted, 333. 

20. Health insurance, consideration to advisability of introducing com- 
prehensive national system: motion (Mr. Martin, Timmins), moved 
and debate interrupted, 347. 

21 . Industry Department, consideration to advisability of setting up: motion 
(Mr. Beech), moved and debate interrupted, 369. 

Privileges and Elections Committee: 

Membership: 109. 

Procedure: 

1 . Address Debate: Order made (but not utilized) to interrupt, if neces- 
sary, to give precedence to a Government Bill, 105. (Note: 4th 
appointed day taken up January 25, 1962, and debate resumed on 
5th appointed day February 13, 1962.) 

2 . Appendices to Votes and Proceedings: 

Budget Papers, April 9th, 1962; 

Budget Resolutions, April 10th, 1962; Excise Tax Resolution 
amendments, April 18th, 1962. 

Non-budgetary Resolutions: See Notice Paper of Votes and Pro- 
ceedings, April 12th, 1962. 

Adjournment Hour: 

3. House adjourns prior to, by unanimous consent without question 
put (re S. O. 6), 36. 

4. House adjourns prior to on motion, 155. 

5. Suspended (re S. O. 6) for Royal Assent to certain bills, 388. 
Bills, Government: 

6. First Reading: Introduced with first reading given on recorded 
division, 329. 

7. First Reading and ordered for second reading later this day, 93. 

8. Second and Third Readings: Bills read a second and third time in 
a sitting: 94 (2), 107, 140, 194-6, 207, 208, 282-4, 309. 

9. First to Third Readings: Supply bills given three readings in one 
sitting: 54, 270, 321, 382, 384. 



A.D. 1962 INDEX 445 

Procedure — (Continued) 

Bills, Government: (Con.) 

10. Ordered that if Address debate in progress when Canadian Na- 
tional Railway Company Bill (Whitecourt) is reported back from 
Railways, Canals and Telegraph Lines Committee, Address debate 
shall be interrupted and bill considered in Committee of the Whole 
and given third reading (not utilized), 105. 

11. Third Reading: After 5.00 o'clock (Private Members' hour), 140. 

12. Third Reading: Motion, to defer and refer back with instructions 
to add "coming into force" clause, ruled out of order, 220; Six 
months' hoist, moved and negatived on recorded division, 224-5. 

Bills, Private: 

Second Reading: 

13. Orders (Divorces) allowed to stand, 212. 

14. On Order for, (Divorces) withdrawn from Order Paper and 
ordered to be set down for consideration at later date, 182. 

15. On Order for, (Divorces) second reading deferred and set 
down for consideration at later date, 229, 247. 

16. S. O. 15(3) re printing of Orders for second reading of divorce 
bills suspended until otherwise ordered, 277. 

17. Notice having been given by sponsor of divorce bills, ordered 
that Orders for second reading be re-listed on to-morrow's 
Order Paper, 329. 

18. Order for second reading of private bill given precedence, 299. 

19. Order No. 191, Bill S-9 at bottom of list, added to Order No. 
1 for consideration in Committee of the Whole, 352. 

20 . Private Bills ordered printed on Order Paper set down as first 
order of business between five and six o'clock p.m. to-morrow, 
378. 

Committee Reports: 

21. Recommendations re capital stock charges concurred in, 211, 
295-6. 

Committee of the Whole: 

22. Four bills referred en bloc, under S. O. 54(1), 238-9. 

23 . Reported from standing committees and placed on Order Paper 
forthwith for consideration later this day, 320. 

Bills, Public (Private Members) : 

24. Introduction: Motion for leave to introduce Public Service Pension 
Adjustment Amendment Bill (to include provident fund pension- 
ers), point of order raised by Mr. Speaker that Bill contained 
money provision, 290; motion withdrawn, 314. 

25. First Reading: Introduced (Income Tax Act Amendment Bill, 
C-82) but first reading negatived on recorded division, 301-2. 

26. Second Reading: Orders stood at request of government, 51, 90, 
106, 212, 243, 271, 286; Orders dropped to foot of list on Order 
Paper, 132, 141, 220, 252, 271. 

27. Second Reading: On Order for second reading bill withdrawn and 
amended one substituted under same number but different in 
substance and title, 160. 

28. Second Reading: On Order for second reading bill described as 
"Reprinted as proposed to be amended in Committee of the Whole" 
substituted for one given first reading, 182. 



446 HOUSE OF COMMONS 10-11 ELIZABETH II 

Procedure — (Continued) 

Bills Public (Private members): 

29. Second Reading: Debate allowed on BNA Act Amendment, Bill 
C-28, although, if passed, would set in motion other Act involving 
expenditure, 283-4. 

30. Second and Third Readings: Representation Act Amendment Bill 
(Halifax-Dartmouth and County), 326; Representation Act Amend- 
ment Bill (Nanaimo-Cowichan-The Islands), 326. 

31. Third Reading Amendments: On Order for third reading, bill re- 
ferred back to Committee of the Whole for deletion of clause in- 
volving expenditure of money, and change of title, 183. 

32. Bill, without resolution, involving expenditure of public money, 
read a second time, considered in Committee of the Whole, re- 
ported, and ordered for third reading, 160, 182-3. 

33. Reprinted without Order of House, 160-1. 

34. Title amended twice, 160, 183. 

35. Passage in Commons but not Enacted: See Representation Act 
Amendment Bills, 2. 

36. Passed and Enacted: See Representation Act Amendment Bills, 
1,3. 

Committee of Supply: 

37. Appointed on Opening day notwithstanding S. O. 55, 8. 

38. Resumption of business of Commitee of Supply deferred until 
Order concerning approval of Universal Copyright Convention dis- 
posed of, 369. 

Committee of Ways and Means: 

39. Appointed on Opening day notwithstanding S. O. 55, 8. 
Member's Conduct: 

40. Reported to House and suspension for duration of day's sittings, 
241-2. 

Motions for Papers: 

41. Notices of, allowed to stand on Order Paper: 48, 82, 118, 175, 206, 
233, 256, 286, 315, 347, 381. 

42. Returns to Orders tabled forthwith: 79, 80, 99, 118, 224, 234, 256, 
367-8. 

43. Negatived on recorded divisions: 88-9 (after debate), 118-9, 119-20, 
206-7, 261-2, 316-7, 346-7. 

44. Ordered transferred to order of "Notices of Motions (Papers)" for 
debate, pursuant to S. O. 47: 82, 257, 382; debated, 88-9, 261-2. 

"Motions" under Daily Routine, Reversions to: 

45. House reverts to "motions": 176, 199, 200, 325. 

Private Members' Business Hour: 

46. Deferred from 5.00 to 8.00 o'clock, 43. 

47 . Private Members' business, private bills called pursuant to Special 
Order, 384. 

Sessional Paper: 

48. Tabled by private member (re employees of Transport Department 
and St. Lawrence Seaway Authority at Cornwall), 364. 



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Procedure — (Concluded) 
Sittings of the House: 

49. Sitting suspended on motion (Mr. Winch) until call of Chair 
(American astronaut), 145. 
See also Adjournments, Special; Sittings of the House; Speaker's rulings 
and statements. 

Procedure Committee: 

1. Motion to appoint to consider procedure on public business and the 
closure rules: Notice called and transferred to Government Orders, 
223. Moved, debated and agreed to, 277. 

2. Membership: 296. 

3. Report: First (proposals for changes in procedure on public business), 
337-43. 

4. Report concurred in: First, on notice without debate, 350. 

Production of Papers: See "Motions for Papers" under Procedure; Returns 
Ordered, 

Provinces, relations with: See Federal-Provincial relations. 

Provincial Tax and Fees: See Crown Corporations (Provincial Tax and Fees) 
Act Bill. 

Public Accounts Committee: 

Membership: 111. 

See also Canada Council; Public Accounts of Canada. 

Public Accounts of Canada: 

1. Accounts for 1960-61, Volumes I, II and III (Crown corporations), 48. 
Sess. Paper No. 34. Printed. 

2. Motion, — That Public Accounts, Volumes I, II and III and report of 
Auditor General for 1960-61 be referred to Public Accounts Com- 
mittee: Notice called and referred to Government Orders, 152. 

Public and Private Investment in Canada, report: See Investment in Canada. 

Public Construction, Goods and Services Act Bill: 

Bill C-77, Mr. Broome. 1st R., 233. 

Public Contract Delivery Act Bill: 

Bill C-76, Mr. Broome. 1st R., 233. 

Public Printing and Stationery Department: 

1. Report for 1960-61, 11. Sess. Paper No. 136. Printed. 

2 . Order, — Return re letter issued by Queen's Printer stating recipe books 
for buffalo steak are available, etc.: Mr. Herridge, 163. Presented, 173. 
Sess. Paper No. 203. 

Public Service: 

1 . Order, — Return showing if Mr. Godfrey, living in or about Vancouver, 
in employ of Justice or Citizenship and Immigration departments: 
Mr. Regier, 58. Presented, 90. Sess. Paper No. 190. 



448 HOUSE OF COMMONS 10-11 ELIZABETH II 

Public Service — (Concluded) 

2. Order, — Return re dentists employed in professional capacity, com- 
petitions held, etc.: Mr. Fisher, 98. Presented, 141. Sess. Paper No. 200. 

3. Order, — Return showing representations received from A. R. Buckler, 
Kentville, N.S., as President of Maritime Retired Federal Civil Service 
Association re adjustment in pensions, date, minister who replied, etc.: 
Mr. Fisher, 246. 

4. Order, — Return re public service, messengers, duties, salaries: Mr. 
Fisher, 224. Presented, 306-7. Sess. Paper No. 226. 

See also Civil Service Commission; Fair Employment Practices Act Amend- 
ment Bill; Industrial Relations and Disputes Investigation Act Amend- 
ment Bills, 2. 

Public Service Pension Adjustment Act Amendment Bill: 

(To include provident fund pensioners), Mr. Creaghan. On motion for 
leave to introduce, point of order raised that bill appeared to contain 
money provision; ordered that consideration of point of order stand 
until Monday, April 2nd, 1962, 290. Motion for leave to introduce, with- 
drawn, 314. 

Public Service Superannuation Act: 

Report on administration for year 1960-61, 13. Sess. Paper No. 63. 

Public works: 

1. Return to Order of House, dated Sept. 18th 1961, for telegrams, 
petitions, documents, since Jan. 1st 1959 re acquisition of sites for 
erection of a public building, namely, a post office, in St. Ferdinand 
d'Halifax, Megantic County, P.Q., 12. Sess. Paper No. 122a. 

2. Return to Order of House, dated June 14th 1961 for copy of payrolls, 
list of employees, etc., re works carried out in 1958 and 1959 on 
Solitaire River, at Rollet, Desandrouins Township, 356. Sess. Paper 
No. 170c. 

3. Order, — Return re any works near Duparquet, in Northwestern 
Quebec, at Hebercourt, Duparquet and Abitibi Lakes, carried out by 
Government from 1949 to 1957, requested by, foreman, wages, etc.: 
Mr. Martel, 59. 

4. Order, — Return re any cleaning operations between 1949-57 on Senne- 
ville River and the Small Senneville River, Counties of Villeneuve and 
Chapleau, cost, wages, suppliers of materials, etc.: Mr. Martel, 59. 
Presented, 231. Sess. Paper No. 217. 

5. Address, — Correspondence with Quebec re present Winter Works 
Program: Mr. Paul for Mr. Martel, 121. Presented, 240. Sess. Paper 
No. 206a. 

6. Order, — Return showing for periods 1960-61 and to date with respect 
to each province number of projects approved by federal government 
under Winter Works Program, cost, etc.: Mr. Racine, 163. Presented, 
189. Sess. Paper No. 206. 

7. Order, — Correspondence between Public Works Minister and any 
persons re development of new post office at Longlac, Ont.: Mr. Fisher, 
257. 

8. Order, — Correspondence since Jan. 1st 1961 between Public Works 
Minister and other persons re construction of new building for Unem- 
ployment Insurance Commission and new post office in Fort William: 
Mr. Badanai, 286. 

See also Bridges; Harbours, wharves and breakwaters; Roads. 



AD. 1962 INDEX 449 

Public Works Department: 

1. Report for 1960-61, 141. Sess. Paper No. 128, Printed. (French, 348. 
Printed), 

2. Order, — Return re ships and dredges operated in British Columbia, 
meals supplied to employees, cost of food, audit, irregularities, sup- 
pliers, etc.: Mr. Regier, 58-9. Presented, 177. Sess. Paper No. 205. 

3. Order, — Return re legal fees paid from April 1st 1957 to March 31st 
1962 in New Brunswick and Nova Scotia, names and addresses of 
recipients, amounts: Mr. Robichaud, 331. 

Q 

Quebeccdr: See Transport Department, 5, 6. 
Quebec Savings Banks: See Bank reports, 3, 6. 

Queen Mother: 

Programme for visit to Canada in June of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth, 
the Queen Mother, 268. Sess. Paper No. 223. 

Queen's Printer: See Public Printing and Stationery Department. 

R 

Radioactive Fallout: See Defence. 

Railway Act Amendment Bills: 

1. Bill C-7, Mr. Thomas (abandonment). 1st R., 20. 2nd R. moved and 
debate interrupted, 94. 

2. Bill C-9, Mr. Browne (Vancouver-Kings way) (Trucking appeals). 
1st R., 20. 2nd R. moved and debate interrupted, 132. 

Railway Employees' Welfare Association Limited: 

Petition received for Act to incorporate, 185. 

Railways: 

Motion, — That Railways, Canals and Telegraph Lines Committee be 
empowered to enquire into submission of National Legislative Com- 
mittee, International Railway Brotherhoods re suggestions for com- 
pensation to employees affected by abandonments, etc.: Notice called 
and transferred to Government Orders, 245-6. 

Railways/ Air Lines and Shipping (sessional) Committee: 

Motion to appoint to consider accounts, estimates and bills relating to 
Canadian National Railways and Trans-Canada Air Lines: Notice 
called and transferred to Government Orders, 261. 

Railways, Canals and Telegraph Lines Committee: 

1. Membership: 110, 176. 

2. Referred: Canadian National Railway Company Bill (Optic Lake to 
Chisel Lake), 100; Canadian National Railway Company Bill (White- 
court), 105; Canadian National Railway Company Bill (Matane-Ste. 
Anne des Monts), 158; Cochin Pipe Lines Ltd. Bill, 200; Submission 



450 HOUSE OF COMMONS 10-11 ELIZABETH II 

Railways, Canals and Telegraph Lines Committee — (Concluded) 

by National Legislative Committee, International Railway Brother- 
hoods re compensation to employees affected by abandonments, notice 
to refer, 245-6; Polaris Pipe Lines Bill, 282; Canadian Pacific Railway 
Company Bill, 311. 

3. Reports: First (printing, quorum, sitting), 130; Second [Canadian 
National Railway Company Bill (Optic Lake-Chisel Lake), Canadian 
National Railway Company Bill (Whitecourt)], (Appendix 1 to 
Journals), 130; Third [Canadian National Railway Company Bill 
(Matane-Ste. Anne des Monts)], 181; Fourth (Cochin Pipe Lines Ltd. 
Bill), 211; Fifth (Polaris Pipe Lines Bill), (Appendix 4 to Journals), 
295-6; Sixth (Polaris Pipe Lines Bill, with recommendation re capital 
stock), 296 Seventh (Canadian Pacific Railway Company Bill), 319. 

4. Reports concurred in: First, without notice or debate, 181. Sixth, on 
notice, without debate, 301. 

Redistribution by independent body: See British North America Act Amendment 
Bill; Electoral Boundaries Commission Act Bill. 

Refunds (Natural Resources) Act: 

Statement on refunds, 25. Sess. Paper No. 119. 

Reliance Insurance Company of Canada Act Amendment Bill: 

Petition received to amend Act of incorporation, 86. Reported by Examiner 
of Petitions, 249. Bill S-12, Mr. Lafreniere. Received from Senate, 1st 
R., 289. 2nd R. after debate and referred to Banking and Commerce 
Committee, 310. Reported without amendment, 319. Considered in Com- 
mittee of the Whole, 3rd R., 352. R.A., 385. 10-11 Elizabeth II, Chap- 
ter 33. 

Representation Act: 

Report of Chief Electoral Officer pursuant to section 4 of Act, 8. Sess. 
Paper la. 

Representation Act Amendment Bills: 

1. Bill C-14, Mr. Nielsen (Northwest Territories). 1st R., 21. On Order 
for 2nd R., bill withdrawn and amended one entitled "Representation 
and Canada Elections Acts Amendment Bill" substituted, 160. 2nd R. 
after debate, considered in Committee of the Whole, reported without 
amendment, and ordered for third reading at next sitting, 160. Point 
of order raised as to regularity of several proceedings on said bill, and 
Mr. Speaker stated House had accepted reprinted bill and point of 
order was not one that arises now, 160-1. On Order for third reading, 
Mr. Speaker raised point of order that bill involved expenditure of 
public money which required a resolution and suggested bill be referred 
back to Committee of the Whole for amendment, 182-3. Motion (Min- 
ister of National Revenue), — To defer and refer bill back to Committee 
of the Whole with instructions to delete clause 4 and amend title to 
read "An Act to amend the Representation Act", 182-3. After debate, 
motion agreed to, 183. Bill referred back to, and again considered in 
Committee of the Whole, reported with amendments, considered as 
amended (Title changed to: "An Act to amend the Representation 
Act"), and ordered for third reading at next sitting, 183. 3rd R., 188-9. 
Passed by Senate, 270. R.A., 272. 10-11 Elizabeth II, Chapter 17. 
See also Procedure, 30, 35, 36; Speaker's rulings and statements, 5, 8. 



A.D. 1962 INDEX 451 

Representation Act Amendment Bills — (Concluded) 

2. Bill C-44, Mr. Morris (Halifax constituency, renaming Halifax-Dart- 
mouth and County). 1st R., 28. 2nd R., considered in Committee of 
the Whole, reported without amendment, 3rd R., 326. 

3. Bill C-46, Mr. Matthews (Nanaimo constituency, renaming Nanaimo- 
Cowichan-The Islands). 1st R., 37. 2nd R., considered in Committee 
of the Whole, reported without amendment, 3rd R., 326. Passed by 
Senate, 364. R.A., 385. 10-11 Elizabeth II, Chapter 28. 

4. Bill C-60, Mr. MacLellan (Inverness-Richmond constituency, renaming 
Inverness-Richmond- West Cape Breton). 1st R., 88. 

Representation and Canada Elections Acts Amendment Bill: See Representation Act 
Amendment Bills, 1. 

Representation, readjustment by independent body: See British North America Act 
Amendment Bills; Electoral Boundaries Commission Act Bill. 

Restaurant Committee: See Parliamentary Restaurant (Joint) Committee. 

Restrictive Trade Practices Commission: 

1 . Report re alleged attempts at resale price maintenance in distribution 
and sale of cameras and related products (Garlick Films Limited), 
14. Sess. Paper No. 80. Printed. 

2. Report re inquiry into distribution and sale of automotive oils, 
greases, anti-freeze, tires, batteries, accessories, and related products, 
387. Sess. Paper No. 80a. Printed. 

See also Combines Investigation Act. 

Returns Ordered: 

(Asterisk indicates t( not tabled") 

1 . Agriculture Department, illustration stations or permanent experi- 
mental station in Thunder Bay District: Mr. Badanai, 286, 311. 

2. Atlantic Citizens Convention, purpose, etc.: Mr. Herridge, 60, 147. 

3. CBC program, life of Mr. Duplessis, protests: Mr. Fisher, 79-80, 231. 

4. Canadian Conference of the Arts, federal aid: Mr. Fisher, 302, 344. 
Canadian National Railways: 

*5. J. P. Boisjoly Industries Limitee, correspondence re acquisition of 

old rails: Mr. Brassard (Lapointe), 164. 
*6. J. P. Boisjoly Industries Limitee, correspondence with any depart- 
ment or minister re purchase of rails from CNR: Mr. Brassard 
(Lapointe), 176. 
*7. J. L. Levesque, Director, qualifications, etc.: Mr. Fisher, 303. 
*8. Canadian Pacific Railways, removing Vancouver trestle: Mr. Taylor, 
303. 
9. Canadian Peace Research Institute: Mr. Argue, 57, 107. 

10. Canals, Trent, volume of water passing through: Mr. Pitman, 256. 

11. Canals, Trent System at Fenelon Falls, Ont.: Mr. McWilliam, 304, 387. 

12. CMHC, servicemen's and veterans' housing projects: Mr. Broome, 98, 
161. 

13. Cheques printed in English: Mr. Denis, 98, 141. 

*14. Citizenship and Immigration Minister, letter received from Ian G. 
Wahn, Toronto, re difficulty of two Canadian citizens in having wives 
admitted: Mr. Pickersgill, 382. 



452 HOUSE OF COMMONS 10-11 ELIZABETH II 

Returns Ordered — (Continued) 

15. Civil Service Commission, applications received under Competition 
62-50 for summer employment: Mr. Pitman, 256, 334. 
*16. Corporations and Labour Unions Returns Bill, briefs, letters, etc., pre- 
sented to government: Mr. Howard, 381. 
Defence: 

17. Emergency Measures Organization, operation "Tocsin B": Mr. 
Pitman, 41, 191. 

18. Survival Training Course: Mr. Pitman, 58, 189. 
*19. Expenditures: Mr. Martin (Essex East), 80. 

20. Civil Defence Training Course: Mr. McMillan, 164, 189. 

21 . Drury, C. M., civilian and military appointments: Mr. Matheson, 47, 208. 

22. Educational assistance, correspondence between Prime Minister and 
Quebec Premier re university grants; Mr. Cardin for Mr. Chevrier, 
47, 134. 

23. European Economic Community, Paris speech of Lord Privy Seal: Mr. 
Mcllraith, 79. 

*24. External Affairs Department, personnel attached to Canadian Embassy 
in France: Mr. Regier, 256. 

25. Federal-provincial relations, forestry agreements with Quebec: Mr. 
Racine, 60, 102-3. 

26. Federal-provincial relations, correspondence re method of amending 
Constitution of Canada: Mr. Pickersgill for Mr. Chevrier, 285-6, 307. 

*27. Finance Department, correspondence re wage-rates status of building 

tradesmen: Mr. Winch, 234. 
28. Forestry Department, representative of Economics Division addressing 
Canadian and American foresters in Minneapolis: Mr. Fisher, 118. 

Government departments: 

*29. Number employed in information divisions in all departments: 
Mr. Pitman, 194. 

*30. Employment of private management consultation firms: Mr. Mc- 

Gee, 368. 
*31. Management Analysis Division, Civil Service Commission, surveys, 

etc.: Mr. McGee, 368. 

32. Government expenditure and revenue: Mr. Matheson, 99, 141. 

33. Government property in vicinity of Bank Street and Riverside Drive, 
Ottawa: Miss LaMarsh, 58, 122; *Mr. Mcllraith, 315. 

34. Harbours, wharves and breakwaters, construction at Macamic Lake, 
County of Chapleau: Mr. Martel, 59-60, 231. 

35. Harbours, wharves and breakwaters, correspondence re construction 
of breakwater-causeway at Port Hood, N.S.: Mr. Caron for Mr. 
Robichaud, 234, 356. 

*36. Hospitals, annual wage bill for all hospital employees in Canada, num- 
ber of employees, etc.: Mr. Macnaughton, 332. 

Indian affairs: 

37. Mrs. Bernadette Grey of Fort Fraser, B.C., correspondence re 
Indian handicrafts: Mr. Howard, 48, 61. 

38 . Information in hands of Chief Electoral Officer re Indians in Port 
Arthur constituency, etc.: Mr. Fisher, 316, 335. 

*39. Name of each Indian Reserve in British Columbia which has had 
timber survey conducted under direction of Paul Brett: Mr. 
Howard, 317. 



A.D. 1962 INDEX 453 

Returns Ordered — (Continued) 
Indian Affairs: 

*40. Correspondence re sales of timber situated on Tsimpsean Indian 

Reserve No. 2: Mr. Howard, 317. 
*41. Resolutions dealing with sales on Tsimpsean Indian Reserve No. 

2: Mr. Howard, 317. 
42. Medical services available to Indians on Halfway, Blueberry, 
Prophet River and Doig River reserves: Mr. Matheson, 331, 387. 

43. Industrial disputes, B.C., federal vehicles crossing picket lines: Mr. 
Howard, 59, 230. 

44. Justice Department, correspondence re release of John Papilia: Mr. 
Martin (Essex East), 345-6, 378. 

Legal fees paid by: 

*45. Central Mortgage and Housing Corporation in Peterborough con- 
stituency: Mr. Pitman, 194. 
*46. Fisheries Department in New Brunswick and Nova Scotia: Mr. 

Robichaud, 332. 
*47. National Defence Department in New Brunswick and Nova Scotia: 

Mr. Robichaud, 332. 
*48. National Revenue Department in New Brunswick and Nova 

Scotia: Mr. Robichaud, 332. 
*49. Northern Affairs and National Resources Department in New 

Brunswick and Nova Scotia: Mr. Robichaud, 332. 
*50. Public Works Department in New Brunswick and Nova Scotia: 

Mr. Robichaud, 331. 
*51 . Transport Department in New Brunswick and Nova Scotia: Mr. 

Robichaud, 332. 
*52. Veterans Affairs Department in New Brunswick and Nova Scotia: 

Mr. Robichaud, 331. 
*53. Moosonee, correspondence re economic or feasibility survey to examine 
possibilities of salt-water port: Mr. Peters, 206. 

National Defence Department: 

54. Prevailing rates employees in Toronto area: Mr. Herridge, 118, 153. 

55. Catholic schools, amounts paid for militia training: Mr. Dupuis, 
246, 292. 

56. Tender calls issued re property bought in Coquitlam: Mr. Regier, 
315. 

National Revenue Department: 

*57. Titles of books banned or prohibited entry into Canada: Mr. 

Herridge, 81-2. 
*58. Gas or gasoline powered lift trucks made in Canada: Mr. 

Benidickson, 193. 
*59. Rulings, directives, etc., under ss. 39, 40, 40A and 40B, and 
ministerial orders under s. 38, of Customs Act: Mr. Benidickson, 
315. 
*60. Newfoundland, communications re proposed ferry service to Argentia: 
Mr. Pickersgill, 256. 
61. Newspaper representatives, advertising payments, etc.: Mr. Howard, 

117, 209. 
Northern Affairs and National Resources Department: 

62. Hydraulics division officials, water resources branch: Mr. Herridge, 
223-4, 366. 



454 HOUSE OF COMMONS 10-11 ELIZABETH II 

Returns Ordered — (Continued) 

Northern Affairs and National Resources Department: 

*63. Revelstoke National Park, superintendent and administrative staff, 
salaries, etc.: Mr. Herridge, 368. 
64. Compensation for prevailing rates employees in parks: Mr. 
Robichaud, 367-8. 
*65. Northern Transportation Company, Ltd., tons and ton miles of freight 
moved, etc.: Mr. Nielsen, 330-1. 

66. Old age security, representations re industrial non-contributory 
pensions reduced by increase in old age security, regulations: Mr. 
Caron, 206, 265. 

67. Order in Council P. C. 1961-1012 of July 13th 1961: Mr. Mcllraith, 234. 

68. Pension Commission, applications under Competition No. 62-452 for 
Pension Medical Advisers (Medical Officer 4): Mr. Benidickson, 314, 
335. 

69. Post offices in premises of Hudson's Bay Company: Mr. Howard, 80. 

70. Power grid, National, correspondence with each province re establish- 
ment of: Mr. Argue, 82, 141. 

71. Public Printing and Stationery Department, recipe book for buffalo 
steak: Mr. Herridge, 163, 173. 

Public Service: 

72 . Employment of Mr. Godfrey in Justice or Citizenship and Immigra- 
tion departments: Mr. Regier, 58, 90. 

73. Dentists employed in professional capacity: Mr. Fisher, 98, 141. 

74. Messengers, duties, salaries: Mr. Fisher, 224, 306. 

*75. Superannuated, increasing pensions, Maritime representations: Mr. 
Fisher, 246. 

Public Works: 

76. Senneville Rivers, Que., cleaning operations, 1949-57: Mr. Martel, 
59, 231. 
*77. Duparquet and Abitibi Lakes: Mr. Martel, 59. 

78. Winter Works Program, correspondence with Quebec: Mr. Paul 
for Mr. Martel, 121, 240. 

79. Winter Works Program for each province: Mr. Racine, 163, 189. 
*80. Longlac, Ont., correspondence re development of new post office: 

Mr. Fisher, 257. 
*81. Correspondence re construction of new building for Unemploy- 
ment Insurance Commission and new post office in Fort William: 
Mr. Badanai, 286. 

82. Public Works Department, ships and dredges, B.C., food purchases, 
meals, etc.: Mr. Regier, 58-9, 177. 

83. Roads, Prince Rupert, B.C., to Jasper, Alta., requests for assistance to 
building highway: Mr. Howard, 81, 231. 

84. Roads, correspondence re road connection between Indian Reserve of 
Kitamaat and Municipality of Kitimat: Mr. Howard, 47, 172-3. 

*85. Roads to Resources Program, Amos-Mattagami, tenders: Mr. Martel, 
276-7. 

*86 . Roads to Resources Program, correspondence re construction of Amos- 
Mattagami Highway: Mr. Martel, 315. 
87. Roe, A. V., Canada Limited, federal aid for expansion of steel opera- 
tions at Sydney, N.S.: Mr. Robichaud, 58, 334. 



A.D. 1962 INDEX 455 

Returns Ordered — (Concluded) 
Public Works: 

*88. St. Lawrence River and Montreal Harbour Committee, report of Com- 
mittee of Engineers: Mr. Fisher, 382. 

89. Soviet Union, loans, gifts to, World War II: Mr. Pigeon, 193, 292. 

90. Statistics, Dominion Bureau of, questionnaire used in obtaining sample 
of basis of assessing number of unemployed: Mr. Carter, 317-8, 334. 

Technical and Vocational Training Assistance Act: 

91 . Total enrolment in vocational training at secondary school level 
in Ontario: Mr. Pitman, 81, 123. 

92. Communities carrying on courses for unemployed under Schedule 
M of Act: Mr. Pitman, 81, 134. 

93. Date of agreement with provinces, institutions, etc.: Mr. Pitman, 
194, 373. 

94. Television, correspondence re program "Youth Wants to Know": Mr. 
Pickersgill, 257, 287. 

95. Trade and Commerce Department, export strategic list: Mr. Mcllraith, 
234, 254. 

96. Trade and Commerce Department, trade delegation to Australia and 
New Zealand: Mr. Boulanger, 224. 

97 . Trade, exports and imports with United Kingdom, United States, Japan, 
European Economic Community countries: Mr. Matheson, 99. 

98. Trade, exports to overseas countries via United States: Mr. Morris, 
345, 378. 

99. Trans-Canada Highway, correspondence re federal aid for construc- 
tion of second Trans-Canada Highway System: Mr. Argue, 82, 239. 

Transport Department: 

100. Airports at Cold Lake, Alta., contracts with City Construction 
Company: Mr. Argue, 80-1, 386. 
*101. Passenger planes, charges to other departments, individuals: Mr. 
Leduc, 118. 

102. Quebecair Limited, correspondence re granting exclusive rights to: 
Mr. Mcllraith for Mr. Chevrier, 175, 235. 

103. Quebecair Limited, correspondence re application for subsidy: Mr. 
Mcllraith for Mr. Chevrier, 175-6, 235. 

104. Argentia ferry terminal, letter from secretary of Lodge No. 1237 
of International Association of Machinists, St. John's, Nfld.: Mr. 
Tucker, 176, 202. 

105. Correspondence with Nova Scotia Premier re railway between 
Springhill Junction and Springhill, N.S.: Mr. Pickersgill, 206, 334. 

*106 . Correspondence re improvements in facilities at Lakehead Airport: 

Mr. Fisher, 256-7. 
*107. Jet planes, etc., purchased: Mr. McMillan, 303. 
*108. Aircraft companies, business, tenders: Mr. McMillan, 303. 
*109. Terminal services for commercial lines: Mr. Fisher, 303. 
110. Expenditures in Peterborough electoral district: Mr. Pitman, 
285, 387. 
•111. Planes, names of persons paying for use of: Mr. Caron, 368. 
112. Yarmouth, N.S., correspondence re replacement of lighthouse: Mr. 
Pickersgill, 82, 254. 
See also House of Commons, 5, for tabled list of outstanding Returns 
as of April 13th 1962. 



456 HOUSE OF COMMONS 10-11 ELIZABETH II 

River Improvements, International: See International River Improvements Act. 

Roads: 

1 . Address, — Correspondence, etc., between federal government and any- 
other government or persons since Jan. 1st 1956 re road connection 
between Indian Reserve of Kitamaat and Municipality of Kitimat: 
Mr. Howard, 47. Presented, 172-3. Sess. Paper No. 204. 

2. Order, — Return re any requests, since July 1st 1961, from British 
Columbia, for assistance similar to that given under Trans-Canada 
Highway Act, for building highway between Prince Rupert, B.C., 
and Jasper, Alta., reply: Mr. Howard, 81. Presented, 231. Sess. Paper 
No. 218. 

Roads to Resources Program: 

1. Order, — Return re public tenders in connection with construction of 
culvert near Mile No. 9 on Amos-Mattagami Highway, published, 
cost, extras paid, etc.: Mr. Martel, 276-7. 

2. Address, — Agreements, contracts, etc., re construction under Roads to 
Resources Program of Amos-Mattagami Highway, entered into 
between Quebec and the general contractors, names, addresses of 
persons employed, sub-contracts, suppliers, etc.: Mr. Martel, 315. 

Roe, A. V., Canada Limited: 

Order, — Return showing any representations received by Government 
re expansion by A. V. Roe of steel operations in Sydney, N.S.: Mr. 
Robichaud, 58. Presented, 334. Sess. Paper No. 230. 

Royal Assent: 84-5, 133, 161, 272, 322-3, 385. 
Letters re: 84, 129, 157, 255, 322, 384. 

Royal Canadian Mint: See Mint, Royal Canadian. 

Royal Canadian Mounted Police: 

1. Report for 1960-61, 300. Sess. Paper No. 81. Printed. 

2. Report on actuarial examination of RCMP superannuation account as 
at Dec. 31st 1959, 13. Sess. Paper No. 81a. 

3. Report on administration of Part I of RCMP Superannuation Act for 
1960-61, 14. Sess. Paper No. 81b. 

Royal Commissions: 

Transportation report (MacPherson), Vol. II, dated December, 1961, 
together with summary, 27. Sess. Paper No. 186. Printed. 

S 

Saint John Bridge and Railway Extension Company: See Canadian Pacific Railway 
Company Act Bill. 

St. Lawrence River and Montreal Harbour Committee: 

Order, — Copy of report of Committee of Engineers, designated as St. 
Lawrence River and Montreal Harbour Committee: Mr. Fisher; moved, 
and question being proposed, ordered transferred to the order of 
"Notices of Motions (Papers)", 382. 



A.D. 1962 INDEX 457 

St. Lawrence Seaway Authority: 

1. Report for 1961, with auditor's report, 378. Sess. Paper No. 167. 

2. Revised capital budget for 1961, 11. Sess. Paper No. 167a. 

3. Capital budget for 1962, 11. Sess. Paper No. 167b. 

4. Statement re employees of Transport Department and St. Lawrence 
Seaway Authority at Cornwall, 364. Sess. Paper No. 149b. 

St. Lawrence Seaway Authority Act Amendment Bill: 

Resolution, — To provide that the Authority may from time to time borrow 
money to an aggregate that shall not at any time exceed $345,000,000.: 
House to consider in Committee of the Whole at next sitting, 41. 
Considered in Committee of the Whole, resolution adopted, 102. Bill 
C-66, Minister of Transport. 1st R., 102. 2nd R. after debate, con- 
sidered in Committee of the Whole, reported without amendment, 
3rd R., 107. Passed by Senate, 184. R. A., 272. 10-11 Elizabeth II, 
Chapter 18. 

Saint Stephen and Milltown Railway Company: See Canadian Pacific Railway 
Company Act Bill. 

Sales Taxes: See Companies, Sales Tax payments by. 

Salvation Army, Governing Council of Canada East and of Canada West, Act 
Amendment Bill: 

Petition received to amend Acts of incorporation, 86. Reported by Examiner 
of Petitions, 227. Bill S-ll, Mr. Wratten. Received from Senate, 1st 
R., 275. 2nd R. after debate, referred to Miscellaneous Private Bills 
Committee, 283. Reported without amendment, 295. Considered in 
Committee of the Whole, reported without amendment, 3rd R., 310. 
R. A., 322. 10-11 Elizabeth II, Chapter 40. 

Seed grain indebtedness: 

List of apportionments and adjustments on advances of seed grain, fodder 
for animals, etc., Nov. 18th 1960 to Jan. 18th 1962, 25. Sess. Paper 
No. 120. 

Senate amendments to Commons Bills: 

Canadian National Railway Company (Whitecourt) (Bill C-63) passed 
by Senate with an amendment, 150. Amendment concurred in, 158. 

Senate Retirement Annuities Act Bill: 

Resolution, — To provide for payment out of Consolidated Revenue Fund, 
to any person who was a member of the Senate on April 6th 1962, 
but who ceases to be a member at age seventy-five years or more 
by reason of amendment to sec. 29 of British North America Act, 
of lifetime retirement annuity equivalent to three-quarters of ses- 
sional allowance, etc.: House to consider in Committee of the Whole 
at next sitting, 345. 
See also British North America Act Amendment Bills, 1, 3. 

Shipping: 

1. Report for 1961 for exemptions authorized when no master or officer 
was available with required certificate, under Shipping Act, 10. Sess. 
Paper No. 150a. 
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458 HOUSE OF COMMONS 10-11 ELIZABETH II 

Shipping — (Concluded) 

2. Report for 1961 of ships relieved from compliance with steamship 
inspection requirements under authority of Shipping Act, 85. Sess. 
Paper No. 150b. 

3. Report for 1961 of ships exempted from carrying certificated masters, 
mates or engineers, under Shipping Act, 85. Sess. Paper No. 150c. 

Sickness Insurance, Accident and: See Insurance, Superintendent of, 1. 

Sir John A. Macdonald Day Act Bill: 

Bill C-50, Mr. Wratten. 1st R., 53. 

Sittings of the House: 

Sitting suspended until call of Chair: (American astronaut), 145. 
See also Adjournments, Special; Procedure. 

Small Businesses Loans Act Amendment Bill: 

Bill C-49, Minister of Finance. 1st R., 39. 2nd R. moved and debate 
interrupted, 133. 2nd R. after debate, 194. Considered in Committee 
of the Whole, 194, 195; amendment (Mr. Peters) ruled out of order 
and, upon appeal, Chairman's ruling confirmed on recorded division, 
195; consideration in Committee of the Whole resumed, reported with- 
out amendment, 3rd R., 196. Passed by Senate, 239. R.A., 272. 10-11 
Elizabeth II, Chapter 19. 

Small Loans Act Amendment Bills: 

1. Bill C-19, Mr. Argue (1 per cent). 1st R., 21. 2nd R. moved and 
debate interrupted, 221. 

2. Bill C-23, Mr. Argue (advertising). 1st R., 22. Order for 2nd R. 
not proceeded with, dropped to foot of list on Order Paper, 252. 

See also Interest Bill. 

Small Loans Companies and Money-lenders report: See Insurance, Superintendent 
of, 2. 

Social Security: See Federal-Provincial relations re proposed BNA Act amend- 
ment. 

Soviet Union: 

1 . Text of Note from Prime Minister of Canada to Chairman of Council 
of Ministers of USSR, N. S. Khrushchov, dated Feb. 14th 1962, 130. 
Sess. Paper No. 195a. 

2. Text of Note from Chairman of Council of Ministers of USSR, N. S. 
Khrushchov, to Prime Minister of Canada, dated Feb. 11th 1962, 121. 
Sess. Paper No. 195. 

3. Text of Note from Chairman of Council of Ministers of USSR, N. S. 
Khrushchov, to Prime Minister of Canada, dated Feb. 27th 1962, 188. 
Sess. Paper No. 195b. 

4. Order, — Return showing aggregate of loans or gifts, by way of money 
or arms, made by Canada during last World War: Mr. Pigeon, 193. 
Presented, 292. Sess. Paper No. 224. 



A.D. 1962 INDEX 459 

Speaker, Mr.: 

1. Communicated letter from Governor General's Secretary re opening 
of Parliament, 1. 

2. Informed House of vacancies in representation and of issue of war- 
rants for writs of election, 187. 

3. Reported Speech from Throne, 2. 

4. Read message re Commissioners of Internal Economy, 6. 

5. Presented report of Commissioners of Internal Economy, 8. 
Sess. Paper No. 2. 

6. Presented report of Chief Electoral Officer under Elections Act, 8. 

7. Presented report of Chief Electoral Officer under Representation 
Act, 8. 

8. Presented report of Parliamentary Librarian, 8. 

9. Presented regulations on Library of Parliament, 9-10. 

10. Communicated letters re Royal Assent, 84, 129, 157, 255, 322, 384. 

11. Tabled report of Civil Service Commission re Parliamentary Restau- 
rant staff, 213-4. Approved, 223. 

12. Tabled report of Civil Service Commission re staff, House of Commons, 
214-5. Approved, 223. 

13. Tabled reports of Civil Service Commission re Parliamentary Library 
staff, 215-7, 226-7. Approved, 223. 

14. Declared sitting suspended until call of Chair, 145. 

15. Presented report of Procedure Committee: First, 337-43. 

Speaker's rulings and statements: 

Bills, Government; Second Reading: 
Amendments to motions for: 

1 . Amendment ruled out of order as unrelated as it was problem 
of contributions to political parties and is not subject-matter 
entirely germane to Bill (Corporation and Labour Unions 
Returns), 305-6. 

Bills, Government; Committee of the Whole: 
Chairman's Rulings Appealed: 

2 . Ruled amendment to Small Businesses Loans Bill out of order 
as it was irrelevant and went beyond scope of bill; Ruling 
appealed and confirmed on recorded division, 195. 

Bills, Government; Third Reading: 
Amendments to motion for: 

3. On Order for third reading of Canadian National Railways 
Bill (Matane-Ste. Anne des Monts), motion to defer and refer 
back to Committee of the Whole with instructions to add 
coming into force clause ruled out of order by Mr. Acting 
Deputy Speaker as it raised matters not included in any 
provision of bill, 220. 

Bills, Public (Private Members) ; Introduction: 

4 . Mr. Speaker raised point of order, on motion for leave to introduce 
a Bill (to include Provident Fund Pensioners) under the Public 
Service Pension Adjustment Act, to the effect that it contained 
a money provision. Motion stood, 290. Motion withdrawn, 314. 



460 HOUSE OF COMMONS 10-11 ELIZABETH II 

Speaker's rulings and statements — (Concluded) 

Bills, Public (Private Members); Second Reading: 

5. After Order for Second Reading: Point of order raised as to 
propriety of the printing of a second bill of same number and form 
but differing in substance: Mr. Speaker stated House had accepted 
the reprinted bill and therefore point of order was not one that 
arises now but one that might arise if similar circumstances 
occurred, 161. 

See also Item 8 under this heading. 

6. On order for second reading question raised as to expenditure 
involved in Bill to amend BNA Acts, 1867 to 1960, with respect to 
representation in Senate: Mr. Speaker stated while Bill did not in 
itself seem to involve an expenditure of public funds, it would set 
in motion another Act and would therefore indirectly involve 
expenditure. He further stated that the matter should be settled 
so that the Private Member would be given the benefit of the 
doubt to proceed to raise such matters as may properly be brought 
before Parliament, 283-4. 

7. On motion for second reading of Parliamentary Proctor and Costs 
Taxation Bill (C-41), Mr. Speaker stated that bill seemed to have 
some of the characteristics of a money bill, or one that required 
a resolution, as no provision is made for payment of salary and 
any fees received would have to be paid into the Consolidated 
Revenue Fund under general legislation. He further stated that 
although there was some precedent for such legislation without 
a preceding Ways and Means resolution, he was not satisfied that 
this bill came under the exception and stated he would allow the 
debate to proceed as the case was not as clear as it might be, 326-7. 

Bills, Public (Private Members) ; Third Reading: 

8. On Order for third reading of private member's public bill, 
Mr. Speaker asked leave to raise a point of order and stated that 
clause 4 of the bill appeared to authorize expenditure of public 
money, which required a resolution. Mr. Speaker suggested that 
the bill be referred back to Committee of the Whole with instruc- 
tions to delete clause 4, 182-3. 

See also Item 5 under this heading. 
Member's Conduct: 

9. In Committee of Supply, Member for Hull (Mr. Caron) was 
reported to the House for declining to withdraw his accusation 
that the Chairman of the Committee was displaying partiality. 
The honourable Member refused to withdraw his remarks and left 
the Chamber. Motion (Mr. Churchill) that member be suspended 
for remainder of this day's sitting: moved and agreed to on 
recorded division, 241-2. 

Supply, Committee of; Chairman's Rulings Appealed: 

10. Ruled, on a point of order, that it was not irregular to proceed 
with Vote 730 called for consideration by the government not- 
withstanding that the Committee was still considering Vote 729 
at the termination of its last sitting; Ruling appealed and con- 
firmed on recorded division, 350-1. 

See also Member's Conduct, 9, under this heading. 
Tape recording of debates: 

1 1 . Progress report by Mr. Speaker on experiment initiated at last 
session, 237-8. 

See also Procedure. 

Speech from the Throne, Debate on: See Address in Reply. 



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Standing Orders Committee: 

1. Membership: 112, 199. 

2. Petition (late) referred: 325 (divorce). 

3. Reports: First (quorum), 337; Second (divorce petition), 349. 

4. Reports concurred in: First, without notice or debate, 337; Second, 
without notice or debate, 349. 

Statistics, Dominion Bureau of: 

Order, — Copy of last questionnaire used in obtaining sample for basis of 
assessing number of unemployed in 1956 and 1962: Mr. Carter, 317-8. 
Presented, 334. Sess. Paper No. 138a. 

Statutory Orders and Regulations: 

1. Consolidated Index and Table of Statutory Orders and Regulations 
for period Jan. 1st 1955 to Sept. 30th 1961, 10. Sess. Paper No. 127. 
Printed. 

2. Consolidated Index and Table of Statutory Orders and Regulations 
for period Jan. 1st 1955 to Dec. 31st 1961, 196. Sess. Paper No. 127k. 
Printed. 

3. Published as extra in Canada Gazette of March 30th 1962 containing 
Civil Service Regulations effective April 1st 1962, 306. Sess. Paper No. 
127o. Printed. 

4. From Sept. 27th 1961 to April 11th 1962, 10, 48, 143, 196, 247, 306, 
373. Sess. Paper Nos. 127a to 127g, 127h, 127i, 127j, 1271, 127m, 127n, 
127. 

See also Orders in Council. 

Sun Life Assurance Company of Canada Act Amendment Bill: 

Petition received for Act changing name in French to Sun Life du Canada, 
companie d'assurance-vie, 142. Reported by Examiner of Petitions, 
144. Bill S-8, Mr. Lafreniere. Received from Senate, 1st R., 188. 2nd 
R. after debate, referred to Banking and Commerce Committee, 200. 
Reported without amendment, 233. Considered in Committee of the 
Whole, reported without amendment, 3rd R., 239. R. A., 272. 10-11 
Elizabeth II, Chapter 34. 

Supply: 

1. Committee appointed on Opening Day, 8. 

2. Further Supplementary Estimates (2), 1961-62, referred, 31. Further 
Supplementary Estimates (3), 1961-62, referred, 87. Main Estimates, 
1962-63, referred, 97. Further Supplementary Estimates (4), 1961-62, 
referred, 245. 

3. House resolved into Committee of Supply: 

(a) Departmental Estimates entered on Supply Orders under S. O. 
56(5) (a): 

No. 1: Citizenship and Immigration, Justice, National Health and 
Welfare, Northern Affairs and National Resources, Public 
Works, Trade and Commerce, 172. 

(b) Without motion put, on Estimates: 37, 41, 43, 48, 51, 53, 158, 176, 
181-4, 188, 211, 226, 229-30, 234, 238-9, 246-7, 251-2, 257, 261-2, 
269-70, 286, 290, 296, 326, 350-5, 359, 369. 

(c) Interim Supply Resolutions: 320; 382. 

4. Progress reported from Committee of Supply: 37, 42, 48, 51, 176, 184, 
188, 234, 270, 286. 



462 HOUSE OF COMMONS 10-11 ELIZABETH II 

Supply — (Concluded) 

5. Resolutions adopted (Estimates by Departments): 

(a) Further Supplementary Estimates (2), 1961-62: Agriculture, 44; 
Fisheries, 44; Labour, 53-4. 

(b) Further Supplementary Estimates (3), 1961-62: Agriculture, 158; 
Citizenship and Immigration, 230; Defence Production, 159; Exter- 
nal Affairs, 212-3; Finance, 159; Forestry, 226; Labour, 242, 247; 
Medical Research Council, see National Research Council; Mines 
and Technical Surveys, 257-8; National Defence, 252; National 
Research Council (including Medical Research Council), 253; 
Northern Affairs and National Resources, 262-3; Privy Council, 
269; Public Works, 263-4; Royal Canadian Mounted Police, 264; 
Trade and Commerce, 264; Transport, 264, 269; Veterans Affairs, 
253. 

(c) Further Supplementary Estimates (4), 1961-62: Agriculture, 
290-1; Atomic Energy, 291; Citizenship and Immigration, 292; 
Civil Service Commission, 292; Defence Production, 292; External 
Affairs, 363, 369-71; Finance 296-7; Fisheries, 297; Justice, 297-8; 
Legislation, 298; Mines and Technical Surveys, 298; National 
Defence, 298; National Health and Welfare, 298-9; Northern 
Affairs and National Resources, 299, 326, 352, 363; Privy Council, 
355-6; Public Printing and Stationery, 356, 360; Public Works, 
360; Trade and Commerce, 361; Transport, 361-2; Veterans 
Affairs, 362-3. 

(d) Main Estimates, 1962-63: (no resolutions adopted). 

See also Estimates; Supply Bills; Supply Motions; Ways and Means. 

Supply Bills: 

1 . Committee of Ways and Means Resolution (based on resolutions 
reported by Committee of Supply re Further Supplementary Esti- 
mates (2), 1961-62), 54. Bill C-51, (Appropriation Act No. 1, 1962), 
Minister of Finance, Act for granting to Her Majesty certain sums of 
money for public service for year ending March 31st 1962. 1st R., 2nd 
R., considered in Committee of the Whole, reported without amend- 
ment, 3rd R., 54. Passed by Senate, 83. R. A., 85. 10-11 Elizabeth II, 
Chapter 1. 

2. Committee of Ways and Means Resolution (based on resolutions 
reported by Committee of Supply re Further Supplementary Estimates 
(3), 1961-62), 270. Bill C-78 (Appropriation Act No. 2, 1962), Min- 
ister of Finance, Act for granting to Her Majesty certain sums of 
money for public service for year ending March 31st 1962. 1st R., 2nd 
R., considered in Committee of the Whole, reported without amend- 
ment, 3rd R., 270. Passed by Senate, 271. R. A., 272. 10-11 Elizabeth 
II, Chapter 12. 

3. Resolution (First Interim Supply) in Supply and Ways and Means 
Committees, 320-1. Bill C-85, (Appropriation Act No. 3, 1962), Minis- 
ter of Finance, Act for granting to Her Majesty certain sums of money 
for public service for year ending March 31st 1963. 1st R., 2nd R., 
considered in Committee of the Whole, reported without amendment, 
3rd R., 321. Passed by Senate, 321. R.A., 323. 10-11 Elizabeth II, Chap- 
ter 20. 

4. Committee of Ways and Means Resolution (based on resolutions re- 
ported by Committee of Supply re Further Supplementary Estimates 
(4), 1961-62), 382. Bill C-89 (Appropriation Act No. 4, 1962), Minis- 
ter of Finance, Act for granting to Her Majesty certain sums of money 



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Supply Bills — (Concluded) 

for public service for year ending March 31st 1962. 1st R., 2nd R., 
considered in Committee of the Whole, reported without amendment, 
3rd R., 382. Passed by Senate, 384. R.A., 385. 10-11 Elizabeth II, Chap- 
ter 23. 
5. Resolution (Second Interim Supply) in Supply and Ways and Means 
Committees, 382-3. Bill C-90, (Appropriation Act No. 5, 1962), 
Minister of Finance, Act for granting to Her Majesty certain sums of 
money for public service for year ending March 31st 1963. 1st R., 
2nd R., considered in Committee of the Whole, reported without 
amendment, 3rd R., 384. Passed by Senate, 384. R.A., 385. 10-11 Eliza- 
beth II, Chapter 24. 

Supply Motions [under S.O. 56(2)]: 

1 . Motion for Speaker to leave Chair to resolve House into Committee 
of Supply, 164. Amendment (Miss LaMarsh), — Development of poli- 
cies that would ensure adequate growth in economy: moved, 164. 
Subamendment (Mr. Herridge), — Public and co-operative ownership 
of utilities, etc.: moved and debate interrupted, 164. Debate resumed, 
169; debate interrupted by Mr. Speaker at appointed time, and sub- 
amendment negatived on recorded division, 169-70. Amendment nega- 
tived on recorded division, 170-1. Main motion agreed to after further 
debate, without time carry-over, 172. 

Survival Training program: See Defence, 2, 3. 

Suspension of Member: See Speaker's rulings and statements, 9. 

Sweepstakes: See Hospital Sweepstakes Act Bill; Lottery Bill. 



Tape recording of proceedings: See Speaker's rulings and statements, 11. 

Tariff Board: 

1. Report on batting and wadding and coated or impregnated fabrics, 
19. Sess. Paper No. 66a. 

2. Report on hats, caps and related products, 19. Sess. Paper No. 66. 

3 . Recommendations on textiles, consideration to referring to Banking and 
Commerce Committee: Motion (Mr. Allard), moved and debate inter- 
rupted, 304. 

4. Tariff Board declarations on certain appeals under Customs Act since 
April 1st 1959, 315. Sess. Paper No. 66b. 

5. Report on engineers' and architects' plans, drawings and blueprints, 
with transcript of evidence, 350. Sess. Paper No. 66c. Printed. 

See also General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade; Private Members 
Resolutions, 17. 

Tax-sharing Arrangements: See Federal-Provincial Fiscal Arrangements. 

Technical and Vocational Training Assistance Act: 

1 . Order, — Return showing total enrolment in vocational training at 
secondary school level in Ontario as of Dec. 31st 1960, capacity of insti- 
tutions, new wings, graduates in woodworking, etc.: Mr. Pitman, 81. 
Presented, 123. Sess. Paper No. 86a. 



464 HOUSE OF COMMONS 10-11 ELIZABETH II 

Technical and Vocational Training Assistance Act — (Concluded) 

2. Order, — Return re communities carrying on courses for unemployed 
under Schedule M of Act, as of Dec. 1st 1961, number of persons, cost: 
Mr. Pitman, 81. Presented, 134. Sess. Paper No. 86b. 

3. Project summaries by provinces for period April 1st 1961 to March 
14th 1962, 238. Sess. Paper No. 86c. 

4. Order, — Return showing date on which government reached agree- 
ment with each province, number of technical institutions approved for 
federal grants, names of institutions, teachers, etc.: Mr. Pitman, 194. 
Presented, 373-4. Sess. Paper No. 86d. 

Television: 

1. Return to Address, dated Sept. 13th 1961, for correspondence, etc., 
exchanged between Broadcast Governors, Transport Department or 
Minister of National Revenue and all other persons, since Jan. 1st 
1960 re granting licence for television satellite to provide television 
service to French-speaking population of Madawaska and Victoria 
counties in New Brunswick, 107. Sess. Paper No. 109a. 

2. Address, — Correspondence since Oct. 1st 1961, between Broadcast 
Governors and any person re program on station CJCH-TV Halifax, 
entitled "Youth Wants to Know": Mr. Pickersgill, 257. Presented, 287. 
Sess. Paper No. 109b. 

3. Television service to remote areas and communities: motion (Mr. 
Howard), moved and debate interrupted, 194. 

See also Canadian Broadcasting Corporation. 

Territorial waters: 

Address, — Correspondence, etc., with any government, since April 1st 1960 

re breadth of territorial sea and proposals for widening: Mr. Howard; 

moved, and question being proposed, ordered transferred to the order 

of "Notices of Motions (Papers)", 82. Moved, debated, negatived on 

recorded division, 88-9. 
See also Coastal Fisheries Protection Act Amendment Bill. 

Textiles, Study of Tariff Board recommendations on: See Private Members Resolu- 
tions, 17. 

Throne Speech debate: See Address in Reply. 

Titles of Bills amended: See Procedure, 34. 

"Tocsin B" Exercise: See Defence. 

Trade: 

1 . Order, — Return showing what proportion of Canada's exports and 
imports for years 1956-61 was with United Kingdom, United States, 
Japan, European Economic Community countries, others: Mr. Mathe- 
son — presented forthwith, 99. Sess. Paper No. 143a. 

2. Order, — Return showing total dollar value of exports to overseas 
countries via United States in each of years 1952 to 1959: Mr. Morris, 
345. Presented, 378. Sess. Paper No. 143c 

Trade and Commerce Department: 

1. Order, — Return re trade delegation to Australia and New Zealand, 
members, names, etc.: Mr. Boulanger — presented forthwith 224. Sess. 
Paper No. 214. 



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Trade and Commerce Department — (Concluded) 

2. Order, — Export strategic list: Mr. Mcllraith, 234. Presented, 254. 
Sess. Paper No. 143b. 

3 . Order, — Copy of latest economic forecast prepared in Trade and Com- 
merce Department in series substituted for Canadian Economic Out- 
look as described in Hansard of Aug. 10th 1960; and question being 
proposed, Hon. member stated he desired debate on said motion; 
Ordered, — That said motion be transferred to order of "Notices of Mo- 
tions (Papers)", 257. Motion (Mr. Pickersgill), moved, debated, nega- 
tived, 261-2. 

Trade and Economic Committee, Joint: See Canada-United States Joint Economic 
and Trade Committee. 

Trading stamps: See Criminal Code Amendment Bills, 4. 

Trans-Canada Air Lines: 

1. Report for 1961, 254. Sess. Paper No. 168. Printed. 

2. Report of auditors for 1961, 254. Sess. Paper No. 168c. 

3. Revised capital budget for 1961, 11. Sess. Paper No. 168a. 

4. Capital budget for 1962, 95. Sess. Paper No. 168b. 

Trans-Canada Highway: 

Address, — Correspondence, etc., with provincial governments, since Jan. 
1st 1961 re federal aid for construction of a second Trans-Canada 
Highway system: Mr. Argue, 82. Presented, 239. Sess. Paper No. 131a. 

See also Roads. 

Trans-Canada Highway Act: 

Report of proceedings for 1960-61, 348. Sess. Paper No. 131. Printed. 

Trans-Canada Highway Act Amendment Bill: 

Bill C-83, Mr. Martin (Timmins) (Canada Highways). 1st R., 302. 

Transport Commissioners: 

Report for 1961, 230. Sess. Paper No. 169. Printed. 

Transport Department: 

1 . Report for 1960-61, 134. Sess. Paper No. 149. Printed. 

2. Report entitled: "Department of Transport — Annual Record of Opera- 
tions, 1960-61", 373. Sess. Paper No. 149a. Printed. 

3. Order, — Return re City Construction Company Limited, Vancouver, 
contracts with Transport Department for development of Cold Lake 
Airport, Alta., investigation of company's financial position, progress 
payments etc.: Mr. Argue, 80-1. Presented, 386-7. Sess. Paper No. 238. 

4. Order, — Return showing if Transport Department bills other depart- 
ments, or individuals, for use of its passenger planes, amounts, etc.: 
Mr. Leduc, 118. 

5. Address, — Correspondence between Minister and Quebecair Limited, 
since Jan. 1st 1960 re granting exclusive rights to Quebecair Limited 
to operate between Seven Islands and Quebec: Mr. Mcllraith for Mr. 
Chevrier, 175. Presented, 235. Sess. Paper No. 219. 

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466 HOUSE OF COMMONS 10-11 ELIZABETH II 

Transport Department — (Concluded) 

6. Address, — Correspondence between Minister and Quebecair Limited, 
since Jan. 1st 1960 re application for subsidy for winter operations 
on Lower St. Lawrence: Mr. Mcllraith for Mr. Chevrier, 175-6. Pre- 
sented, 235. Sess. Paper No. 219a. 

7. Order, — Letter addressed by secretary of Lodge No. 1237 of Interna- 
tional Association of Machinists, St. John's, Nfld., since Jan. 1st 1962 re 
Argentia ferry terminal, together with any reply: Mr. Tucker, 176. 
Presented, 202. Sess. Paper No. 208. 

8. Address, — Correspondence with Nova Scotia Premier, or any other 
person re railway between Springhill Junction and Springhill, N.S.: 
Mr. Pickersgill, 206. Presented, 334. Sess. Paper No. 229. 

9. Order, — Correspondence between Transport Minister and other per- 
sons re improvements in facilities at Lakehead Airport: Mr. Fisher, 
256-7. 

10. Order, — Return showing number of planes purchased by Transport 
Department since 1957, new Jet Star, price, use, repairs: Mr. Mc- 
Millan, 303. 

11. Order, — Return showing if Transport Department does business with 
aircraft builders and repair companies, tenders, work since 1957, names, 
etc.: Mr. McMillan, 303. 

12. Order, — Return showing at how many and what airports, in Canada, 
the transport Department provides terminal services for commercial 
lines, revenue in fiscal years 1959-60, 1960-61, cost to government, 
employees: Mr. Fisher, 303. 

13. Order, — Return showing total expenditure in federal Electoral District 
of Peterborough in each of past ten years: Mr. Pitman, 285. Presented, 
387. Sess. Paper No. 236. 

14. Order, — Return re legal fees paid from April 1st 1957 to March 31st 
1962 in New Brunswick and Nova Scotia, names and addresses of re- 
cipients, amounts: Mr. Robichaud, 332. 

15. Statement re employees of Transport Department and St. Lawrence 
Seaway Authority at Cornwall, 364. Sess. Paper No. 149b. 

16. Order, — Return showing if, since Minister of Transport assumed 
office, any person or organization has paid or agreed to pay for use 
of government planes, names, etc.: Mr. Caron, 368. 

Transportation, development of national policy: Motion (Mr. Regier), moved and 
debate interrupted, 286. 

Travelling expenses: 

Supplementary return to Order of House, dated Nov. 30th 1960 re 
ministers, Members of Parliament, public servants and other citizens 
sent outside Canada on government business since June 6th 1957, 12. 
Sess. Paper No. 183. 

Treaties: See Agreements, protocols, exchange of notes, treaties; Canada-United 
States agreements, notes. 

Trust and Loan Companies, report: See Insurance, Superintendent of, 3, 4. 



Unemployment Assistance Act: 

Report of expenditures and administration for 1960-61, 134. Sess. Paper 
No. 107. 



A.D. 1962 INDEX 467 

Unemployment Insurance Act: 

Consideration to advisability of providing benefits to seasonal farm 
labourers: motion (Mr. Rapp), moved and debate interrupted, 234. 

Unions, Labour, Returns: See Corporations and Labour Unions Returns Act Bill. 

United Church of Canada Act Amendment Bill: 

Petition received for Act to amend Act of incorporation, 142. Reported 
by Examiner of Petitions, 265. Bill S-16, Mr. Morton. Received 
from Senate, 1st R., 289. 2nd R. after debate and referred to Miscel- 
laneous Private Bills Committee, 310. Reported without amendment, 
320. Placed on Order Paper forthwith, 320. Considered in Committee 
of the Whole, reported without amendment, 3rd R., 321. R.A., 323. 
10-11 Elizabeth II, Chapter 41. 

United Nations: 

1. Report entitled: "Canada and the United Nations, 1960", 327. Sess. 
Paper No. 30. Printed. 

2. Reply by Canadian Government to enquiry re General Assembly's 
Resolution 1664 (XVI), (the "Swedish" Resolution), adopted Dec. 4th 
1961, 256. Sess. Paper No. 30a. 

Universal Copyright Convention: See Agreements, protocols, exchange oj notes. 

University grants: See Educational assistance. 



Vacancies in representation: See Elections; Membership changes. 
Vancouver Coliseum: See Centennial Observances. 
Vancouver-Sea Island connecting bridge or tunnel: See Bridges. 

Veterans Affairs Committee: 

1. Membership: 115, 290. 

2. Bills referred: Veterans' Land, 281. 

3. Reports: First (printing), 295; second (quorum), 309; Third (Vet- 
erans' Land Bill), 309. 

4. Reports concurred in: First, without notice or debate, 295; Second, 
without notice or debate, 309. 

Veterans Affairs Department: 

1. Report for 1960-61, 18. Sess. Paper No. 171. Printed. 

2. Order, — Return re legal fees paid from April 1st 1957 to March 31st 
1962 in New Brunswick and Nova Scotia, names and addresses of 
recipients, amounts: Mr. Rcbichaud, 331. 

Veterans Insurance Act Amendment Bill: 

Bill C-37, Minister of Veterans Affairs. 1st R., 23. 2nd R. after debate, 
considered in Committee of the Whole, reported without amendment, 
101. 3rd R., 105. Passed by Senate, 131. R.A., 133. 10-11 Elizabeth II, 
Chapter 6. 
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468 HOUSE OF COMMONS 10-11 ELIZABETH II 

Veterans' Land Act Amendment Bill: 

Resolution, — To extend period during which a veteran may qualify for 
benefits; to establish dates on which persons shall be deemed to 
be discharged; to extend repayment period of loans: House to con- 
sider in Committee of the Whole at next sitting, 151. Considered 
in Committee of the Whole, 277. Resolution adopted, 278. Bill C-80, 
Minister of Veterans Affairs. 1st R., 278. 2nd R., referred to Veterans 
Affairs Committee, 281. Reported without amendment, committee 
evidence and proceedings recorded as Appendix 5 to Journals, 309. 
Considered in Committee of the Whole, reported without amendment, 
3rd R., 347. Passed by Senate, 371. R.A., 385. 10-11 Elizabeth II, 
Chapter 29. 

Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations: See Agreements, protocols, exchange 
of notes. 

Vocational Training Assistance Act, Technical and: See Technical and Vocational 
Training Assistance Act. 

W 

War Measures Act Amendment Bill: 

Bill C-53, Mr. Martin (Essex East). 1st R., 57. 

War Service Grants Act Amendment Bill: 

Bill C-36, Minister of Veterans Affairs. 1st R., 23. 2nd R. after debate, 
considered in Committee of the Whole, reported without amendment, 
101. 3rd R., 105. Passed by Senate, 131. R.A., 133. 10-11 Elizabeth II, 
Chapter 7. 

War Veterans Allowance Board: 

Report for 1960-61, 18. Sess. Paper No. 171. Printed. 

Water Pollution Control Division: 

Consideration to advisability of creating: motion (Mr. Herridge), moved 
and debate interrupted, 318. 

Ways and Means: 

1. Committee appointed on Opening Day, 8. 

2. House resolved itself into Committee of Ways and Means: 54, 270, 
320, 371, 378, 382-3. 

3. Progress reported: 371, 378. 

4. Supply resolutions adopted: 54 (further supplementary); 270 (further 
supplementary); 320-1 (interim); 382 (further supplementary) ; 382-3 
(interim). 

Ways and Means (Budget): 

5. Announcement of Budget Presentation date, 325. 

6. Presentation motion (Mr. Fleming, Eglinton), — That Mr. Speaker 
do now leave chair for House to resolve itself into Committee of 
Ways and Means, moved and debate interrupted, 344. 

7. Budget papers presented, 329. Sess. Paper No. 43. (Printed as ap- 
pendix to Votes and Proceedings of Monday, April 9th and Hansard 
of Tuesday, April 10th 1962). 



A.D. 1962 INDEX 469 

Ways and Means (Budget) — (Concluded) 

8. Budget Resolutions and proposed amendment: (Printed as appendices 
to Votes and Proceedings of Tuesday, April 10th 1962 and Wednesday, 
April 18 1962, as notice). 

9. Non-budgetary Resolutions: (Printed in Notice Paper of Votes and 
Proceedings of Thursday, April 12, 1962). 

See also Supply Bills. 

Westmount Life Insurance Company Act Bill: 

Petition to incorporate received, 86. Reported by Examiner of Petitions, 
136. Bill S-4, Mr. Webster. Received from Senate, 1st R., 160. 2nd R., 
referred to Banking and Commerce Committee, 182. Reported without 
amendment, 233. Considered in Committee of the Whole, reported 
without amendment, 3rd R., 239. R.A., 272. 10-11 Elizabeth II, 
Chapter 35. 

Wharves: See Harbours, wharves and breakwaters. 

Wheat Agreement, 1962, International: See Agreements, protocols, exchange of 
notes, treaties, etc. 

Wheat Board: 

1. Report for crop year ending July 31st 1961, certified by auditors, 
64. Sess. Paper No. 8. Printed. 

2. Supplementary report on 1960-61 pool accounts, certified by auditors, 
374. Sess. Paper No. 8b. Printed. 

3 . Address, — Copy of contract with China Resources Company for sale of 
grain: Mr. Mcllraith — negatived on recorded division, 118-9. 

4. Address, — Copy of long-term agreement signed by Canadian Wheat 
Board and China Resources Company: Mr. Mcllraith — negatived on 
recorded division, 119-20. 

Wheat Board Act Amendment Bills: 

1. Bill C-61, Mr. Ormiston (constitution and powers). 1st R., 88. 

2. Bill C-75, Minister of Agriculture. 1st R., 206. 2nd R. after debate, 278, 
on recorded division, 281. Considered in Committee of the Whole, 282, 
284. Reported without amendment, 3rd R., 284. Passed by Senate, 321. 
R.A., 322. 10-11 Elizabeth II, Chapter 21. 

Winter works projects: See Public works. 

Workers Housing: See International Labour Organization. 



Yarmouth, N.S.: 

Address, — Correspondence, etc., with Mayor of Yarmouth, since Jan. 1st 
1961 re replacement of lighthouse at Yarmouth: Mr. Pickersgill, 82. 
Presented, 254. Sess. Paper No. 220. 

Youth Appreciation: See Annual Youth Appreciation Week Act Bill. 

Yukon Territory: 

Ordinances made by Commissioner in Council and assented to Nov. 29th 

1961, 11. Sess. Paper No. 121. 
See also Elections, 1. 



470 INDEX A.D. 1962 

LIST OF APPENDICES TO JOURNALS— SESSION 1962 

No. 1 — (a) C.N.R. Branch Lines (Optic Lake-Chisel Lake, and also Sipi- 
wesk, Man.), Bill C-48: Second Report of Standing Committee on Railways, 
Canals and Telegraph Lines with its printed Minutes of Proceedings and Evi- 
dence (Issue No. 1), 130. 

(b) C.N.R. Branch Line (Whitecourt, Alta.), Bill C-63: Second Report of 
Standing Committee on Railways, Canals and Telegraph Lines with its printed 
Minutes of Proceedings and Evidence (Issue No. 1), 130. 

No. 2 — C.N.R. Branch Line (Gaspe Matane-Ste. Anne des Monts, P.Q.), 
Bill C-67: Third Report of Standing Committee on Railways, Canals and Tele- 
graph Lines with its printed Minutes of Proceedings and Evidence (Issue No. 
2), 181. 

No. 3 — Cochin Pipe Lines Ltd. incorporation, Bill S-6: Fourth Report of 
Standing Committee on Railways, Canals and Telegraph Lines with its printed 
Minutes of Proceedings and Evidence (Issue No. 3), 211. 

No. 4 — Polaris Pipe Lines incorporation, Bill S-13: Fifth Report of Stand- 
ing Committee on Railways, Canals and Telegraph Lines with its printed 
Minutes of Proceedings and Evidence (Issue No. 4), 295-6. 

No. 5 — Veterans' Land Act amendment, Bill C-80: Third Report of Stand- 
ing Committee on Veterans Affairs with its printed Minutes of Proceedings 
and Evidence (Issue No. 1), 309. 



THE MINISTRY 

Prime Minister Right Hon. John George Diefenbaker. 

Secretary of State for External 

Affairs Hon. Howard Charles Green. 

Minister of Finance and Receiver 

General Hon. Donald Methuen Fleming. 

Minister of Trade and Commerce . . . Hon. George Hees. 

Minister of Transport Hon. Leon Balcer. 

Minister of Veterans Affairs Hon. Gordon Churchill. 

Minister of Justice and Attorney 

General Hon. Edmund Davie Fulton. 

Minister of National Revenue Hon. George Clyde Nowlan. 

Minister of National Defence Hon. Douglas Scott Harkness. 

Minister of Citizenship and 

Immigration Hon. Ellen Louks Fairclough. 

Minister of Fisheries Hon. J. Angus MacLean. 

Minister of Labour Hon. Michael Starr. 

Postmaster General Hon. William McLean Hamilton. 

Solicitor General of Canada Hon. William J. Browne. 

Minister of National Health and 

Welfare Hon. Jay Waldo Monteith. 

Minister of Agriculture Hon. Francis Alvin G. Hamilton. 

Minister of Defence Production .... Hon. Raymond O'Hurley. 

Minister of Public Works Hon. David J. Walker. 

Associate Minister of National 

Defence Hon. Joseph Pierre Albert Sevigny. 

Minister of Forestry Hon. Hugh John Flemming. 

Secretary of State and President of 

the Queen's Privy Council 

for Canada Hon, Noel Dorion. 

Minister of Northern Affairs and 

National Resources Hon. Walter Dinsdale. 

Minister without Portfolio Hon. George Ernest Halpenny. 

Minister of Mines and Technical 

Surveys Hon. Jacques Flynn. 

PARLIAMENTARY SECRETARIES 

To Prime Minister \ J<> HN Pallett, Esq., M.P. 

/ J.-H.-Theogene Ricard, Esq., M.P. 

To Minister of Finance Richard A. Bell, Esq., M.P. 

To Minister of Trade and Commerce E. L. Morris, Esq., M.P. 

To Minister of Transport Quinto A. Martini, Esq., M.P. 

To Minister of Veterans Affairs ... H. F. Jones, Esq., M.P. 

To Minister of Justice Thomas M. Bell, Esq., M.P. 

To Minister of National Revenue . . M. J. A. Lambert, Esq., M.P. 

To Minister of National Defence . . . Egan Chambers, Esq., M.P. 

To Minister of Fisheries Roland English, Esq., M.P. 

To Minister of Labour R. D. Thrasher, Esq., M.P. 

To Minister of National Health 

and Welfare L. E. Cardiff, Esq., M.P. 

To Minister of Agriculture \ j0HN A - Charlton, Esq., M.P. 

( W. H. Jorgenson, Esq., M.P. 

To Minister of Public Works Y.-R. Tasse, Esq., M.P. 

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Speaker Hon. Roland Michener. 

Deputy Speaker and Chairman of 

Committees of the Whole House Paul Martineau, Esq. 

Deputy Chairman of Committees of 

the Whole House Gordon Chown, Esq. 



Clerk of the House Leon-J. Raymond, Esq., O.B.E. 

Sergeant-at-Arms Lieutenant-Colonel 

D. V. Currie, V.C. 



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ALPHABETICAL LIST 

OF THE 

MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE OF COMMONS 



Fifth Session — Twenty-fourth Parliament 



Aiken, Gordon Harvey — Parry Sound- 

Muskoka. 
Aitken, Miss Margaret — York-Humber. 
Allard, Maurice — Sherbrooke. 
Allmark, Benjamin Graydon — Kingston. 
Argue, Hazen Robert — Assiniboia. 
Asselin, Martial — Charlevoix. 

Badanai, Hubert — Fort William. 

Balcer, Hon. Leon— Trois-Rivieres. 

Baldwin, G. W. — Peace River. 

Barrington, Merrill Edwin — Chateau- 
guay-Huntingdon-Laprairie. 

Baskin, James W. — Renfrew South. 

Batten, Herman Maxwell — Humber- 
St. George's. 

Beech, William George — York South. 

Bell, Richard Albert — Carleton. 

Bell, Thomas Miller — Saint John- 
Albert. 

Belzile, J.-Alfred — Matapedia-Matane. 

Benidickson, William Moore — Kenora- 
Rainy River. 

Best, Alexander — Halton. 
Bigg, Frederick Johnstone — Athabasca. 
Bissonnette, J.-Eugene — Quebec West. 
Boivin, Marcel — Shefford. 
Boulanger, Sam — Drummond- 

Arthabaska. 
Bourbonnais, J.-Marcel — Vaudreuil- 

Soulanges. 
Bourdages, J.-Rodrigue — Laval. 
Bourget, Maurice — Levis. 
Bourque, Romuald — Outremont-Saint- 

Jean. 

Brassard, Augustin — Lapointe. 
Brassard, Vincent — Chicoutimi. 
Broome, Ernest James — Vancouver 

South. 
Browne, John Ferguson — Vancouver- 

Kingsway. 
Browne, Hon. William J. — St. John's 

West. 



Bruchesi, Gerard — Beauharnois- 
Salaberry. 

Brunsden, Edwin William — Medicine 
Hat. 

Cadieu, Albert C. — Meadow Lake. 
Campbell, Ernest John — Lambton-Kent. 
Campbell, Grant — Stormont. 
Campeau, Charles E. — Saint-Jacques. 
Cardiff, Lewis Elston — Huron. 
Cardin, Lucien — Richelieu-Vercheres. 
Caron, Alexis — Hull. 
Carter, Chesley William — Burin- 

Burgeo. 
Casselman, Mrs. Jean — Grenville- 

Dundas. 
Cathers, Cecil A. — York North. 

Chambers, Egan Edmund — St. Lawrence- 
St. George. 

Charlton, John A. — Brant-Haldimand. 
Chatterton, George L. — Esquimalt- 

Saanich. 
Chevrier, Hon. Lionel — Laurier. 
Chown, Gordon Campbell — Winnipeg 

South. 

Churchill, Hon. Gordon — Winnipeg 

South Centre. 
Clancy, Gordon Drummond — Yorkton. 
Clermont, Gaston — Labelle. 
Coates, Robert Carman — Cumberland. 
Cooper, Clarence Owen — Rosetown- 

Biggar. 

Creaghan, William L. M. — Westmorland. 

Crestohl, Leon — Cartier. 

Crouse, Lloyd Roseville — Queens- 
Lunenburg. 

Danforth, Harold Warren — Kent (Ont.) 

Denis, Azellus — Saint-Denis. 

Deschambault, Marcel — Terrebonne. 

Deschatelets, Jean-Paul — Maison- 
neuve-Rosemont. 



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474 



MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE OF COMMONS 



DlEFENBAKER, Rt. HON. JOHN GEORGE 

Prince Albert. 
Dinsdale, Hon. Walter Gilbert — 

Brandon-Souris. 
Dorion, Hon. Noel — Bellechasse. 
Doucett, George Henry — Lanark. 
Drouin, Noel — Dorchester. 
Drysdale, John A. W. — Burnaby- 

Richmond. 
Dubois, V.-Florent — Richmond-Wolfe. 
Dumas, Armand — Villeneuve. 
Dupuis . Yvon — Saint- Jean-Iberville- 

Napierville. 

English, Roland — Gaspe. 
Eudes, Raymond — Hochelaga. 

Fairclough, Hon. Ellen Louks — 

Hamilton West. 
Fairfield, George Clark — Portage- 

Neepawa. 
Fane, Frank John William — Vegreville. 
Fisher, Douglas Mason — Port Arthur. 
Fleming, Hon. Donald Methuen — 

Eglinton. 
Fleming, Stuart A. — Okanagan- 

Revelstoke. 
Flemming, Hon. Hugh John — Royal. 
Flynn, Hon. Jacques — Quebec South. 
Forbes, Elmer — Dauphin. 
Forgie, James Moffat — Renfrew North. 
Fortin, Louis — Montmagny-L'Islet. 
Fournier, Edgar E. — Restigouche- 

Madawaska. 
Frechette, Antoine — Riviere-du-Loup- 

Temiscouata. 
Fulton, Hon. Edmund Davie — Kamloops. 

Garland, John Richard — Nipissing. 
Gillet, Andre — Mercier. 
Godin, O.- J .—Nickel Belt. 
Grafftey, William Heward — Brome- 

Missisquoi. 
Granger, Charles Ronald McKay — 

Grand Falls-White Bay-Labrador. 
Green, Hon. Howard Charles — 

Vancouver Quadra. 
Grenier, Lucien — Bonaventure. 
Grills, Lee E. — Hastings South. 
Gundlock, Deane Roscoe — Lethbridge. 

Habel, J. -A. — Cochrane. 
Hales, Alfred Dryden — Wellington 
South. 



Halpenny, Hon. George Ernest — 

London. 
Hamilton, Hon. Francis Alvin George — 

Qu'Appelle. 
Hamilton, John Borden — York West. 
Hamilton, Hon. William McLean — 

Notre-Dame-de-Grace. 
Hanbidge, Robert Leith — Kindersley. 
Harkness, Hon. Douglas Scott — 

Calgary North. 
Hees, Hon. George Harris — Broadview. 
Hellyer, Hon. Paul T. — Trinity. 
Henderson, Walter Clarence — Cariboo. 
Herridge, Herbert Wilfred — Kootenay 

West. 
Hicks, William Harold — Fraser Valley. 
Hodgson, Clayton Wesley — Victoria 

(Ont.) 
Horner, Albert Ralph — The Battlefords. 
Horner, Hugh M. — Jasper-Edson. 
Horner, John Henry — Acadia. 
Howard, Frank — Skeena. 
Howe, W. Marvin — Wellington-Huron. 

Johnson, Maurice — Chambly-Rouville. 
Jones, Henry Frank — Saskatoon. 
Jorgenson, Warner Herbert — 

Provencher. 
Jung, Douglas — Vancouver Centre. 

Keays, J. Russell — lles-de-la-Madeleine. 
Kennedy, Cyril Frost — Colchester- 
Hants. 
Kindt, Lawrence Elliot — Macleod. 
Knowles, John Evans — Norfolk. 
Korchinski, Stanley James — Mackenzie. 
Kucherepa, John William — High Park. 

Lafreniere, Robert — Quebec- 

Montmorency. 
Lahaye, Paul — Champlain. 
LaMarsh, Miss Judy V.— Niagara Falls. 
Lambert, Marcel-J.-A. — Edmonton 

West. 
LaRue, Perrault — Saguenay. 
Latour, J. -Octave — Argenteuil-Deux- 

Montagnes. 
Leduc, Rodolphe — Gatineau. 
Legere, Felton Fenwick — Shelburne- 

Yarmouth-Clare. 
Lennard, Frank E. — Wentworth. 
Lessard, H. "Pit" — Saint-Henri. 
Letourneau, Rene — Stanstead. 
Loiselle, Gerard — St. Ann. 



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Macdonald, Mrs. Margaret Mary — 
Kings. 

Macdonnell, Hon. James MacKerras — 
Greenwood. 

MacEwan, Howard Russell — Pictou. 

MacInnis, Donald — Cape Breton South. 

MacLean, Hon. J. Angus — Queens. 

MacLean, John — Winnipeg North Centre. 

MacLellan. Robert Simpson — Inverness- 
Richmond. 

Macnaughton, Alan A. — Mount Royal. 

Macquarrie, Heath Nelson — Queens. 

MacRae, John Chester — York-Sunbury. 

Malcney, Arthur — Parkdale. 

Mandziuk, John Nicholas — Marquette. 

Martel, Jean-Jacques — Chapleau. 

Martin, Murdo W. — Timmins. 

Martin, Hon. Paul Joseph James — 
Essex East. 

Martineau, Paul — Pontiac- 
Temiscamingue. 

Martini, Quinto Antonio — Hamilton 
East. 

Matheson, John R. — Leeds. 

Matthews, Walter Franklyn — 
Nanaimo-Cowichan-The Islands. 

McBain, James Alexander — Elgin. 
McCleave, Robert Jardine — Halifax. 
McDonald, Robert M. T. — Hamilton 

South. 
McFarlane, Murray L. — Kootenay East. 
McGee, Frank — York-Scarborough. 
McGrath, James A. — St. John's East. 
McGregor, Hon. Robert Henry — York 

East. 
McIlraith, George James — Ottawa West. 
McIntosh, John — Swift Current- 
Maple Creek. 
McLennan, William Alexander — New 

Westminster. 
McMillan, William H. — Welland. 
McPhillips, Albert DeBurgo — Victoria 

(B.C.) 
McQuillan, Henry Carwithen — 

Comox-Alberni. 
McWilliam, G. Roy — Northumberland- 

Miramichi. 
Meunier, Adrien — Papineau. 
Michaud, Herve-J. — Kent (N.B.) 
Michener, Hon. Roland — St. Paul's. 
Milligan, Clarence Adam — Prince 

Edward-Lennox. 
Mitchell, David Rodger — Sudbury. 



Monteith, Harold Edmond — Verdun. 
Monteith, Hon. Jay Waldo — Perth. 
Montgomery, Gage Workman — 

Victoria-Carleton. 
More, Kenneth Hamill — Regina City. 
Morissette, Emilien — Rimouski. 
Morris, Edmund L. — Halifax. 
Morton, Murray Douglas — Davenport. 
Mutr, George Robson — Lisgar. 
Muir, Robert — Cape Breton North and 

Victoria. 
Murphy, J. W. — Lambton West. 

Nasserden, Edward — Rosthern. 
Nesbitt, Wallace Bickford — Oxford. 
Nielsen, Erik — Yukon. 
Nixon, George E. — Algoma West. 
Noble, Percy Verner — Grey North. 
Nowlan, Hon. George Clyde — Digby- 

Annapolis-Kings. 
Nugent, Terence James — Edmonton- 

Strathcona. 

O'Hurley, Hon. Raymond — Lotbiniere. 
O'Leary, Clement Augustine — 

Antigonish-Guysborough. 
Ormiston, James Norris — Melville. 

Pallett, John Cameron — Peel. 

Parizeau, Roger — Lac-Saint-Jean. 

Pascoe, James Ernest — Moose Jaw- 
Lake Centre. 

Paul, Remi — Berthier-Maskinonge- 
Delanaudiere. 

Payne, William Hector — Coast- 
Capilano. 

Pearson, Hon. Lester B. — Algoma East. 

Peters, Arnold — Timiskaming. 

Phillips, Orville Howard — Prince. 

PlCKERSGILL, HON. JOHN WHITNEY 

Bonavista-Twillingate. 
Pigeon, Louts-Joseph — Joliette- 

L'Assomption-Montcalm. 
Pitman, Walter — Peterborough. 
Pratt, R. John — Jacques-Cartier- 

Lasalle. 
Pugh, David Vaughan — Okanagan 

Boundary. 

Racine, Jean-Paul — Beauce. 

Rapp, Reynold — Humboldt-Melfort- 
Tisdale. 

Ratelle, J. -Georges — Lafontaine. 



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MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE OF COMMONS 



Rea, Charles Edward — Spadina. 
Regier, Erhart — Burnaby-Coquitlam. 
Regnier, Laurier — St. Boniface. 
Ricard, J.-H.-Theogene — Saint- 

Hyacinthe-Bagot. 
Richard, Charles — Kamouraska. 
Richard, Jean-T. — Ottawa East. 
Richard, Joseph-Adolphe — Saint- 

Maurice-Lafleche. 
Roberge, Gabriel — Megantic. 
Robichaud, Hedard-J. — Gloucester. 
Robinson, Andrew E. — Bruce. 
Rogers, Harris George Campbell — 

Red Deer. 
Rompre, Aristide — Portneuf. 
Rouleau, Guy — Dollard. 
Rowe, Hon. Wm. Earl — Dufferin- 

Simcoe. 
Rynard, Philip Bernard — Simcoe East. 

Sevigny, Hon. Joseph Pierre Albert — 

Longueuil. 
Simpson, Robert — Churchill. 
Skoreyko, William — Edmonton East. 
Slogan, Joseph — Springfield. 
Small, Robert Hardy — Danforth. 

Smallwood, Clifford S. — Battle 
River-Camrose. 

Smith, Arthur R. — Calgary South. 

Smith, Heber Edgar — Simcoe North. 

Smith, John — Lincoln. 

Smith, William Murray — Winnipeg 
North. 

South am, Richard Russell — Moose 
Mountain. 

Speakman, James Stanley — 
Wetaskiwin. 

Spencer, Norman Leonard — Essex West. 



Starr, Hon. Michael — Ontario. 
Stearns, George McClellan — 

Compton-Frontenac. 
Stefanson, Eric — Selkirk. 
Stewart, Robert Dugald Caldwell — 

Charlotte. 
Stinson, Frederick Coles — York Centre. 

Tardif, Paul — Russell. 

Tasse, Yvon-R. — Quebec East. 

Taylor, John Russell — Vancouver- 
Burrard. 

Thomas, William Howell Arthur — 
Middlesex West. 

Thompson, Benjamin Cope — 
Northumberland. 

Thrasher, Richard Devere — Essex 
South. 

Tremblay, Jean-Noel — Roberval. 

Tucker, James Roy — Trinity- 
Conception. 

Valade, Georges-J. — Sainte-Marie. 
Villeneuve, Osie-F. — Glengarry- 

Prescott. 
Vivian, Reginald Percy — Durham. 

Walker, Hon. David J.-Rosedale. 
Webb, Roderick Arthur — Hastings- 

Frontenac. 
Webster, Allan Ross — Saint-Antoine- 

Westmount. 
Weichel, Oscar William — Waterloo 

North. 
White, Harry Oliver — Middlesex East. 
Winch, Harold Edward — Vancouver 

East. 
Winkler, Eric Alfred — Grey-Bruce. 
Woolliams, Eldon M. — Bow River. 
Wratten. Jack — Brantford. 



ALPHABETICAL LIST 

OF THE 

CONSTITUENCIES OF THE HOUSE OF COMMONS 

Fifth Session — Twenty-fourth Parliament 



Acadia — Horner, John Henry. 
Algoma East — Pearson, Hon. Lester B. 
Algoma West — Nixon, George E. 
Antigonish-Guysborough — O'Leary, 

Clement Augustine. 
Argenteuil-Deux-Montagnes — 

Latour, J.-Octave. 
Assiniboia — Argue, Hazen Robert. 
Athabasca — Bigg, Frederick Johnstone. 

Battle River-Camrose — Smallwood, 

Clifford S. 
Beauce — Racine, Jean-Paul. 
Beauharnois-Salaberry — Bruchesi, 

Gerard. 
Bellechasse — Dorion, Hon. Noel. 
Berthier-Maskinonge-Delanaudiere — 

Paul, Remi. 
Bonaventure — Grenier, Lucien. 
Bonavista-Twillingate — Pickersgill, 

Hon. John Whitney. 
Bow River — Woolliams, Eldon M. 
Brandon-Souris — Dinsdale, Hon. 

Walter Gilbert. 
Brantford — Wratten, Jack. 
Brant-Haldimand — Charlton, John A. 
Broadview — Hees, Hon. George Harris. 
Brome-Missisquoi — Grafftey, 

William Heward. 
Bruce — Robinson, Andrew E. 
Burin-Burgeo — Carter, Chesley 

William. 
Burnaby-Coquitlam — Regier, Erhart. 
Burnaby-Richmond — Drysdale, 

John A. W. 

Calgary North — Harkness, 

Hon. Douglas Scott. 
Calgary South — Smith, Arthur R. 

Cape Breton North and Victoria — 
Muir, Robert. 

Cape Breton South — Maclnnis, Donald. 

Cariboo — Henderson, Walter Clarence. 



Carleton — Bell, Richard Albert. 
Cartier — Crestohl, Leon. 
Chambly-Rouville — Johnson, Maurice. 
Champlain — Lahaye, Paul. 
Chapleau — Martel, Jean- Jacques. 
Charlevoix — Asselin, Martial. 
Charlotte — Stewart, Robert Dugald 
Caldwell. 

Chateauguay-Huntingdon-Laprairie — 
Barrington, Merrill Edwin. 

Chicoutimi — Brassard, Vincent. 
Churchill — Simpson, Robert. 
Coast-Capilano — Payne, William 

Hector. 
Cochrane — Habel, J. -A. 
Colchester-Hants — Kennedy, Cyril 

Frost. 
Comox-Alberni — McQuillan, Henry 

Carwithen. 
Compton-Frontenac — Stearns, 

George McClellan. 
Cumberland — Coates, Robert Carman. 

Danforth — Small, Robert Hardy. 

Dauphin — Forbes, R. Elmer. 

Davenport — Morton, Murray Douglas. 

Digby-Annapolis-Kings — Nowlan, 
Hon. George Clyde. 

Dollard — Rouleau, Guy. 

Dorchester — Drouin, Noel. 

Drummond- Arthabaska — Boulanger, 
Sam. 

Dufferin-Simcoe — Rowe, Hon. Wm. 
Earl. 

Durham — Vivian, Reginald Percy. 



Edmonton East — Skoreyko, William. 

Edmonton-Strathcona — Nugent, 
Terence James. 

Edmonton West — Lambert, Marcel-J.-A. 

Eglinton — Fleming, Hon. Donald 
Methuen. 



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CONSTITUENCIES OF THE HOUSE OF COMMONS 



Elgin — McBain, James Alexander. 
Esquimalt-Saanich — Cha tterton, 

George L. 
Essex East — Martin, Hon. Paul 

Joseph James. 
Essex South — Thrasher, Richard Devere. 
Essex West — Spencer, Norman Leonard. 

Fort William — Badanai, Hubert. 
Fraser Valley — Hicks, William Harold. 

Gaspe — English, Roland L. 
Gatineau — Leduc, Rodolphe. 
Glengarry-Prescott — Villeneuve, 

Osie-F. 
Gloucester — Robichaud, Hedard-J. 
Grand Falls-White Bay-Labrador — 

Granger, Charles Ronald McKay. 
Greenwood — Macdonnell, Hon. 

James MacKerras. 
Grenville-Dundas — Casselman, Mrs. 

Jean. 
Grey-Bruce — Winkler, Eric Alfred. 
Grey North — Noble, Percy Verner. 

Halifax — McCleave, Robert Jardine. 

Morris, Edmund L. 
Halton — Best, Alexander. 
Hamilton East — Martini, Quinto An- 
tonio. 
Hamilton South — McDonald, Robert 

M. T. 
Hamilton West — Fairclough, 

Hon. Ellen Louks. 
Hastings-Frontenac — Webb, Roderick 

Arthur. 
Hastings South — Grills, Lee E. 
High Park — Kucherepa, 

John William. 
Hochelaga — Eudes, Raymond. 
Hull — Caron, Alexis. 
Humber-St. George's — Batten, 

Herman Maxwell. 
Humboldt-Melfort-Tisdale — Rapp, 

Reynold. 
Huron — Cardiff, Lewis Elston. 

Iles-be-la-Madeleine — Keays, 

J. Russell. 
Inverness-Richmond — MacLellan, 

Robert Simpson. 

Jacques-Cartier-Lasalle — Pratt, 
R. John. 



! Jasper-Edson — Horner, Hugh M. 

Joliette-L'Assomption-Montcalm — 
Pigeon, Louis-Joseph. 

Kamloops — Fulton, 

Hon. Edmund Davie. 
Kamouraska — Richard, Charles. 
Kenora-Rainy River — Benidickson, 

William Moore. 
Kent (N.B.) — Michaud, Herve-J. 
Kent (Ont.) — Danforth, Harold 

Warren. 
Kindersley — Hanbidge, 

Robert Leith. 
Kings — Macdonald, Mrs. Margaret Mary. 
Kingston — AlLmark, Benjamin Graydon. 
Kootenay East — McFarlane, Murray L. 
Kootenay West — Herridge, 

Herbert Wilfred. 

Labelle — Clermont, Gaston. 
Lac- Saint Jean — Parizeau, Roger. 
Lafontaine — Ratelle, J.-Georges. 
Lambton-Kent — Campbell, 

Ernest John. 
Lameton West — Murphy, J. W. 
Lanark — Doucett, George Henry. 
Lapointe — Brassard, Augustin. 
Laurier — Chevrier, Hon. Lionel. 
Laval — Bourdages, J.-Rodrigue. 
Leeds — Matheson, John R. 
Lethbridge — Gundlock, Deane Rosco. 
Levis — Bourget, Maurice. 
Lincoln — Smith, John. 
Lisgar — Muir, George Robson. 
London — Halpenny, Hon. George Ernest. 
Longueuil — Sevigny, Hon. Joseph Pierre 

Albert. 
Lotbiniere — O'Hurley, 

Hon. Raymond. 

Mackenzie — Korchinski, 

Stanley James. 
Mackenzie River 1 — (vacant). 
Macleod — Kindt, Lawrence Elliott. 
Maisonneuve-Rosemont — Deschatelets, 

Jean-Paul. 

Marquette — Mandziuk, 
John Nicholas. 

Matapedia-Matane — Belzile, 
J.-Alfred. 

Meadow Lake — Cadieu, Albert C. 



*Mr. M. A. Hardie died Oct. 18. 1961; constituency renamed to "Northwest Territories.' 



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Medicine Hat — Brunsden, 

Edwin William. 
Megantic — Roberge, Gabriel. 
Melville — Ormiston, James Norris. 
Mercier — Gillet, Andre. 
Middlesex East — White, Harry Oliver. 
Middlesex West — Thomas, William 

Howell Arthur. 
Montmagny-L'Islet — Fortin, Louis. 
Moose Jaw-Lake Centre — Pascoe, 

James Ernest. 
Moose Mountain — Southam, 

Richard Russell. 
Mount Royal — Macnaughton, 

Alan A. 

Nanaimo-Cowichan-The Islands — 

Matthews, Walter Franklyn. 
New Westminster — McLennan, 

William Alexander. 
Niagara Falls — LaMarsh, Miss Judy V. 
Nickel Belt — Godin, O.-J. 
Nicolet-Yamaska 2 — (vacant) . 
Nipissing — Garland, John Richard. 
Norfolk — Knowles, John Evans. 
Northumberland — Thompson, Benjamin 

Cope. 
Northumberland-Miramichi — 

McWilliam, G. Roy. 
Northwest Territories 3 — ( vacant ) . 
Notre-Dame-de-Grace — Hamilton, 

Hon. William McLean. 

Okanagan Boundary — Pugh, 

David Vaughan. 
Okanagan-Revelstoke — Fleming, 

Stuart A. 
Ontario — Starr, Hon. Michael. 
Ottawa East — Richard, Jean-T. 
Ottawa West — Mcllraith, George J. 

Outremont-Saint-Jean — Bourque, 

Romuald. 
Oxford — Nesbitt, Wallace Bickford. 

Papineau — Meunier, Adrien. 

Parkdale — Maloney, Arthur. 

Parry Sound-Muskoka — Aiken, 
Gordon Harvey. 

Peace River — Baldwin, G. W. 

Peel — Pallett, John Cameron. 

Perth — Monteith, Hon. Jay Waldo. 



Peterborough — Pitman, Walter. 

Pictou — MacEwan, Howard Russell. 

Pontiac-Temiscamingue — Martineau, 
Paul. 

Portage-Neepawa — Fairfield, 

George Clark. 
Port Arthur — Fisher, Douglas Mason. 
Portneuf — Rompre, Aristide. 
Prince — Phillips, Orville Howard. 
Prince Albert — Diefenbaker, 

Rt. Hon. John George. 
Prince Edward-Lennox — Milligan, 

Clarence Adam. 
Provencher — Jorgenson, 

Warner Herbert. 

Qu'Appelle — Hamilton, 

Hon. Francis Alvin George. 
Quebec East — Tasse, Yvon-R. 

Quebec-Montmorency — Lafreniere, 
Robert. 

Quebec South — Flynn, Hon. Jacques. 
Quebec West — Bissonnette, J.-Eugene. 
Queens — MacLean, Hon. J. Angus. 

Macquarrie, Heath Nelson. 
Queens-Lunenburg — Crouse, 
Lloyd Roseville. 

Red Deer — Rogers, Harris George 

Campbell. 
Regina City — More, Kenneth Hamill. 
Renfrew North — Forgie, 

James Moffat. 
Renfrew South — Baskin, James W. 
Restigouche-Madawaska — Fournier, 

Edgar E. 
Richelieu- Vercheres — Cardin, Lucien. 
Richmond- Wolfe — Dubois, V.-Florent. 
Rimouski — Morissette, Emilien. 
Riviere-du-Loup-Temiscouata — 

Frechette, Antoine. 
Roberval — Tremblay, Jean-Noel. 
Rosedale — Walker, Hon. David J. 
Rosetown-Biggar — Cooper, 

Clarence Owen. 
Rosthern — Nasserden, Edward. 

Royal — Flemming, Hon. Hugh. John. 

Russell — Tardif, Paul. 

Saguenay — LaRue, Perrault. 

Saint- Antoine-Westmount — Webster, 
Allan Ross. 



2 Hon. Paul Comtois appointed Lieut.-Gov. of Quebec, Oct. 6, 1961. 
8 Formerly "Mackenzie River". 



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CONSTITUENCIES OF THE HOUSE OF COMMONS 



Saint-Denis — Denis, Azellus. 
Saint-Henri — Lessard, H. "Pit". 
Saint-Hyacinthe-Bagot — Ricard, 

J.-H.-Theogene. 
Saint Jacques — Campeau, Charles-6. 
Saint- Jean-Iberville-Napierville — 

Dupuis, Yvon. 
Saint John-Albert — Bell, 

Thomas Miller. 
Saint-Maurice-Lafleche — Richard, 

Joseph-Adolphe. 
Sainte-Marie — Valade, Georges-J. 
St. Ann — Loiselle, Gerard. 
St. Boniface — Regnier, Laurier. 
St. John's East — McGrath, James A. 
St. John's West — Browne, 

Hon. William J. 
St. Lawrence-St. George — Chambers, 

Egan Edmund. 
St. Paul's — Michener, Hon. Roland. 
Saskatoon — Jones, Henry Frank. 
Selkirk — Stefanson, Eric. 
Shefford — Boivin, Marcel. 
Shelburne-Yarmouth-Clare — Legere, 

Felton Fenwick. 
Sherbrooke — Allard, Maurice. 
Simcoe East — Rynard, Philip Bernard. 
Simcoe North — Smith, Heber Edgar. 
Skeena — Howard, Frank. 
Spadina — Rea, Charles Edward. 
Springfield — Slogan, Joseph. 
Stanstead — Letourneau, Rene. 
Stormont — Campbell, Grant. 
Sudbury — Mitchell, David Rodger. 
Swift Current-Maple Creek — 

Mcintosh, John. 

Terrebonne — Deschambault, Marcel. 
The Battlefords — Horner, Albert Ralph, 
Timiskaming — Peters, Arnold. 
Timmins — Martin, Murdo W. 
Trinity — Hellyer, Hon. Paul T. 
Trinity-Conception — Tucker, 

James Roy. 
Trois-Rivieres — Balcer, Hon. Leon. 

Vancouver-Burrard — Taylor, 

John Russell. 
Vancouver Centre — Jung, Douglas. 
Vancouver East — Winch, 

Harold Edward. 



Vancouver-Kingsway — Browne, 
John Ferguson. 

Vancouver Quadra — Green, 

Hon. Howard Charles. 
Vancouver South — Broome, 

Ernest James. 
Vaudreuil-Soulanges — Bourbonnais, 

J.-Marcel. 
Vegreville — Fane, Frank 

John William. 
Verdun — Monteith, Harold Edmond. 
Victoria (B.C.)— McPhillips, 

Albert DeBurgo. 
Victoria (Ont.) — Hodgson, 

Clayton Wesley. 
Victoria-Carleton — Montgomery, 

Gage Workman. 
Villeneuve — Dumas, Armand. 

Waterloo North — Weichel, 

Oscar William. 
Waterloo South 4 — (vacant). 
Welland — McMillan, William H. 
Wellington-Huron — Howe, 

W. Marvin. 
Wellington South — Hales, 

Alfred Drj'den. 
Wentworth — Lennard, Frank E. 
Westmorland — Creaghan, 

William L. M. 
Wetaskiwin — Speakman, James Stanley. 
Winnipeg North — Smith, 

William Murray. 
Winnipeg North Centre — MacLean, 

John. 
Winnipeg South — Chown, 

Gordon Campbell. 
Winnipeg South Centre — Churchill, 

Hon. Gordon. 

York Centre — Stinson, Frederick Coles. 
York East — McGregor, Hon. Robert 

Henry. 
York-Humber — Aitken, Miss Margaret. 
York North — Cathers, Cecil A. 
York-Scarborough — McGee, Frank. 
York South — Beech, William George. 
York-Sunbury — MacRae, John Chester. 
York West — Hamilton, John Borden. 
Yorkton — Clancy, Gordon Drummond. 
Yukon — Nielsen. Erik. 



4 Mr. William Anderson died June 6, 1961. 







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