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JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF 

CANADA 

From Monday, April 5, 1965, to Wednesday, June 30, both days 

inclusive, in the Fourteenth Year of the Reign of our 

Sovereign Lady, Queen Elizabeth the Second 

THIRD SESSION OF THE TWENTY-SIXTH PARLIAMENT OF CANADA 



The Honourable Alan A. Macnaughton, Speaker 



SESSION 1965 

PRINTED BY ORDER OF PARLIAMENT 

ROGER DUHAMEL, F.R.S.C. 

QUEEN'S PRINTER AND C0NTI10LLER OF STATIONERY 

OTTAWA 1965 

Volume CXII One Hundred and Twelfth Volume 

22622— IS 



CONTENTS 

Page 

Proclamation iii 

Journals of the House of Commons 1 

Proclamation re Dissolution 335 

The Ministry and their Parliamentary Secretaries 337 

Officers of the Commons 338 

Alphabetical List of Members with their Constituencies 339 

Alphabetical List of Constituencies and Members thereof 343 

Index to Journals 349 



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PROCLAMATION 




GEORGES P. VANIER 
[L.S.] 



CANADA 



CANADA 



ELIZABETH THE SECOND, by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom, 
Canada and Her other Realms and Territories, QUEEN, Head of the 
Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith. 

To Our Beloved and Faithful the Senators of Canada, and the Members 
elected to serve in the House of Commons of Canada, and to each and 
every of you. 

Greeting: 
A PROCLAMATION 

WHEREAS the Meeting of Our Parliament of Canada stands prorogued to 
the fifth day of the month of April, 1965, these Presents are therefore to 
command and enjoin you and each of you and all others in this behalf interested 
that on the said Monday, the fifth day of the month of April, 1965, at three 
o'clock p.m., at Our City of Ottawa, personally you be and appear for the 
DESPATCH OF BUSINESS, to treat, do, act and conclude upon these things 
which in Our said Parliament of Canada, by the Common Council of Canada, 
may, by the favour of God, be ordained. 

In Testimony Whereof We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent 
and the Great Seal of Canada to be hereunto affixed. Witness: Our 
Right Trusty and Well-beloved Counsellor, General Georges P. Vanier, 
a member of Our Most Honourable Privy Council, Companion of Our 
Distinguished Service Order upon whom We have conferred Our 
Military Cross and Our Canadian Forces' Decoration, Governor 
General and Commander-in-Chief of Canada. 

At Our Government House, in Our City of Ottawa, this third day of April in 
the year of Our Lord one thousand nine hundred and sixty-five and 
in the fourteenth year of Our Reign. 

By Command, 

JEAN MIQUELON, 
Deputy Registrar General of Canada. 

GOD SAVE THE QUEEN 

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14 ELIZABETH II— A.D. 1965 

No. 1 

JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, MONDAY, APRIL 5, 1965. 



3.00 o'clock p.m. 

This being the day on which Parliament has been convoked by Proclamation 
of the Governor General for the despatch of business, and the Members of the 
House being assembled: 

Prayers. 

Mr. Speaker communicated to the House the following letter: 

GOVERNMENT HOUSE 
OTTAWA 

April 5, 1965. 

Sir, 

I have the honour to inform you that His Excellency the Governor General 
will arrive at the Main Entrance of the Parliament Buildings at 3.00 p.m. on 
Monday, April 5, 1965, and when it has been signified that all is in readiness, 
will proceed to the Chamber of the Senate to open formally the Third Session 
of the Twenty-sixth Parliament of Canada. 

I have the honour to be. 

Sir, 
Your obedient servant, 

ESMOND BUTLER, 
Secretary to the Governor General. 

The Honourable 

The Speaker of the House of Commons. 
Ottawa 



2 HOUSE OF COMMONS April 5, 1965 

A Message was delivered by the Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod. 

"Mr. Speaker, His Excellency the Governor General desires the immediate 
attendance of this Honourable House in the Chamber of the Honourable the 
Senate." 



The House attended accordingly; 



And being returned: 



Mr. Pearson, seconded by Mr. Favreau, by leave of the House, introduced 
Bill C-1, An Act respecting the Administration of Oaths of Office, which was 
read the first time. 



Mr. Speaker reported that, when the House did attend His Excellency the 
Governor General this day in the Senate Chamber, His Excellency was pleased 
to make a Speech to both Houses of Parliament, and to prevent mistakes, he had 
obtained a copy, which is as follows: 

Honourable Members of the Senate: 

Members of the House of Commons: 

I welcome you to the third session of the twenty-sixth Parliament of 
Canada. 

We recall with pleasure the presence last October of Her Majesty Queen 
Elizabeth. The visit of Her Majesty to Charlottetown, Quebec and Ottawa helped 
us to celebrate the hundredth anniversary of the interprovincial conferences 
that led to Confederation. It also reaffirmed in the hearts of Canadians the 
cherished place of the monarchy in our national development. The gracious 
presence and the wise words of the Queen of Canada helped to strengthen the 
unity of our country and to rededicate Canadians to the sense of purpose that 
joins us in the pursuit of our common goals as Canadians while leaving us free 
to develop to the full the facets of our life which reflect the duality of our 
foundation and the variety of our development. 

The international situation gives ground for concern. The stability of South- 
east Asia is threatened by a deepening crisis in Vietnam and continued pres- 
sures on Malaysia. The United Nations is beset by conflicting political pres- 
sures which have seriously impaired its capacity for executive action. The 
continuance of these situations, and of the policies that have given rise to them, 
would create serious risks of widening conflict. 

My Government is resolved that Canada shall make the fullest contribution 
it can to the lessening of international tensions, including the provision of 
practical assistance to developing countries. In the forthcoming negotiations on 
the United Nations crisis, the objective of my Ministers will be to contribute to 
the work of repairing and strengthening the United Nations in order that it 
may play its proper role in the preservation of world peace and security. My 
Government will press forward its efforts to assure effective international action 
for peace-keeping and to move towards general disarmament under effective 



April 5, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 3 

international control. Canada will continue meantime to play its full part in 
the strengthening of collective defence and in the close collaboration of NATO 
members on both sides of the Atlantic. 

My Government will continue to contribute to the development of the 
Commonwealth ties which are of major importance to the free world and to 
the improvement of relations between the continents. My Prime Minister will 
attend the forthcoming Conference of Commonwealth Prime Ministers which 
will discuss, among other things, the expansion of trade and the establishment 
of a Commonwealth secretariat. 

My Ministers attach great importance to Canada's neighbourly relationship 
with the United States and to the development of practical, mutually beneficial 
arrangements within that relationship. You will be asked to approve a resolu- 
tion concerning the important agreement on the automobile industry recently 
concluded with the United States. 

Members of the House of Cotnmons: 

My Ministers believe that it is imperative to reform the procedures of the 
House of Commons in order that it may accomplish the large volume of work 
required to meet the needs of the Canadian people in modern times. My Min- 
isters therefore will submit to you proposals for reform, based both on the 
valuable work of your committee on procedure and organization and on my 
Government's study of the procedures which, in the Parliaments at Westminster 
and elsewhere, have enabled effective debate and criticism to be combined 
with effective dispatch of public business. 

Honourable Members of the Senate: 

Members of the House of Commons: 

My Ministers will continue their policy of promoting the strength and unity 
of the Canadian Confederation. This policy has made possible the achievement 
and re-inforcement on a nation-wide basis of programmes, in pensions and in 
other fields, which would not have been attainable but for better procedures of 
consultation and concerted action with due regard for the federal character of 
our country. My Ministers will continue to improve the procedures and practices 
involved in the federal relationship so that all Canadians may feel equally 
served by Confederation. 

After the appropriate provincial concurrence has been signified, you will 
be asked to approve an Address to the Queen to provide that the constitution 
of Canada may be amended in Canada by the procedures which have been 
agreed between m.y Government and the Governments of all the Provinces. 

You will be asked to authorize my Government to provide that "O Canada" 
shall be the National Anthem of Canada and that "God Save the Queen" shall 
be recognized as the Royal Anthem in Canada. 

Our country is achieving a high rate of economic growth. Trade is expand- 
ing. With growing industrialization, Canadians are enjoying rapidly increasing 
employment opportunities; incomes and living standards are rising; the number 
of people out of work has been reduced to lower levels than for many years. 

All the great potentialities of our economy are not, however, being realised. 
The talents of some of our people are wasted because of poverty, illness, inade- 
quate education and training, inequality in opportunities for work. To combat 
these problems, to improve the opportunities of people who are now at a dis- 
advantage, is to put new power into economic expansion and to enhance the 
unity of our country. 

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4 HOUSE OF COMMONS April 5, 1965 

My Government therefore is developing a programme for the full utilisation 
of our human resources and the elimination of poverty among our people. It will 
include improved measures for regional development, the re- employment and 
training of workers, the re-development of rural areas, the assistance of needy 
people, the renewal of areas now blighted and congested in our cities, and the 
establishment of new opportunities for young Canadians. Besides strengthening 
and broadening measures within the federal sphere of responsibility, the plan 
will be designed to concert them more effectively with provincial programmes. 
Because of the importance of this plan, my Prime Minister will take direct 
responsibility for its co-ordination, assisted by a special secretariat. My Gov- 
ernment will propose the calling of a special federal-provincial conference to 
seek full cooperation and coordination with policies of the Provinces. 

As one of the major elements in this plan, my Government's area develop- 
ment programme, which has already been of substantial assistance to industrial 
expansion in areas of high unemployment, will be expanded, in consultation 
with the Provinces, to other areas where incomes are low. You will be asked 
to approve measures to aid industrial expansion in these areas and to help 
people to take full advantage of such improved employment opportunities. 

My Government will also propose improved measures to assist the re- 
employment of workers displaced by automation or affected by other economic 
changes. These measures to develop our country's human resources will include 
grants and loans for workers moving to new jobs, improved training programmes 
in industry, extended vocational services particularly for the longer-term 
unemployed, and an expanded programme for agricultural manpower. These 
measures will be taken in cooperation with management and labour and, where 
appropriate, in conjunction with the Provinces. 

You will be asked to approve the creation of a fund for rural economic 
development and, in order to provide for fuller integration of action for rural 
development, amendments to the legislation regarding ARDA will be placed 
before you. 

You will be asked to approve the establishment of a Company of Young 
Canadians, through which the energies and talents of youth can be enlisted in 
projects for economic and social development both in Canada and abroad. 

After further discussions between my Government and the Provinces, you 
will also be asked to enact a measure to establish a Canada Assistance Plan, 
providing for federal sharing in the cost of comprehensive programmes under 
which people can be assisted on the basis of their need. 

My Government believes that public policy should be directed to improving 
the quahty of health services and to ensuring that all Canadians can obtain 
needed health care, irrespective of their ability to pay. Accordingly my Govern- 
ment will at an early date meet with the Governments of the Provinces in 
order to discuss with them the way in which federal and provincial action 
can most effectively contribute to programmes that will provide health services 
to Canadians on a comprehensive basis. 

My Government will propose the re-establishment of a special committee 
of the House of Commons on food and drugs, and will facilitate its work with 
the aim of reducing the prices paid by the public for drugs. 



April 5, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 5 

My Government is developing new policies to enable farmers generally to 
achieve larger and more reliable incomes so that their living and working 
standards will be comparable to those enjoyed in other sectors of our economy. 
You will be asked to consider measures of special assistance to the family farm 
in both eastern and western Canada. 

My Government's recent action to raise the incomes of dairy farmers will 
be followed by a comprehensive measure to make possible the development, 
in cooperation with the Provinces, of new national policies for major farm 
products, including the establishment of a Canadian Dairy Commission. Action 
will be taken to improve the movement and marketing of feed grain in eastern 
Canada and British Columbia. 

In order to raise the level of income of Canadian fishermen, a measure 
will be placed before you to provide for an expanded national fisheries develop- 
ment programme. 

In order to improve the position of veterans, you will be asked to approve 
measures to amend the Veterans' Land Act, the Children of War Dead (Educa- 
tion Assistance) Act, the War Veterans' Allowance Act and the Army Benev- 
olent Fund Act. 

A measure will be placed before you to amend the Canadian Citizenship 
Act, particularly in order to ensure full equality of rights for all Canadian 
citizens wherever they were born. 

You will be asked to approve a revision of the Immigration Act in the 
light of a White Paper which will be placed before you, reviewing immigra- 
tion policy and procedures. 

You will be asked to enact legislation to establish an Indian Claims 
Commission. 

A measure to establish an age of retirement from the Senate will be placed 
before you. 

My Government will seek to provide more encouragement to the cultural 
development of our country. You will be asked to consider a measure to 
strengthen the position of Canadian publications, amendments to the legislation 
dealing with broadcasting, and a measure to help the development of a feature 
film industry in Canada. 

In order to encourage the progress of scientific research in Canada you 
will be asked to enact legislation to establish a Science Council of Canada. 
You will also be asked to authorize a programme for the advancement of 
industrial technology, designed to make our industry more competitive and 
efficient. 

Arrangements will be made for you to decide the issue of capital punish- 
ment. My Government will appoint a special committee to study and make 
recommendations on a comprehensive policy for the correction and rehabilitation 
of prisoners. 

My Government will appoint a Royal Commission to study the status, 
form and procedures of adjudicative and regulatory bodies and to investigate 
the desirability of instituting a parliamentary commissioner or Ombudsman 
for Canada. 

My Government intends to make proposals regarding the limitation and 
payment of election expenses when it has received and considered the findings 
of the committee of inquiry. 

You will be asked to consider revisions of the Bank Act, the Quebec 
Savings Banks Act and the Bank of Canada Act; legislation will be proposed 

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6 HOUSE OF COMMONS April 5, 1965 

to establish a Canada Development Corporation to assist in financing major 
new industrial developments and in increasing Canadian ownership of business 
corporations. 

My Government will propose a revision of legislation on unemployment 
insurance; legislation to provide for safety in employment under federal juris- 
diction; amendment of the Fair Wages and Hours of Labour Act to achieve 
consistency with the labour standards code; legislation to make collective 
bargaining and arbitration available to the Public Service; and legislation 
revising federal superannuation and pension plans to integrate them with the 
Canada Pension Plan. 

You will be asked to consider comprehensive legislation to reform public 
regulation of the railways and to facilitate the adaptation of the railway 
system to present and future needs; a measure to provide for the re-capitaliza- 
tion of the Canadian National Railways; and amendments to the Aeronautics 
Act. 

Other legislative proposals which you will be asked to consider will in- 
clude: amendments to the Financial Administration Act to establish the 
Treasury Board under the presidency of a Minister to be named the President 
of the Treasury Board; legislation regarding Term 29 of the Union with New- 
foundland; a measure regarding conservation of oil and gas under federal 
jurisdiction; amendments to the Post Office Act, the National Housing Act, 
the Atlantic Development Board Act, the Northwest Territories Act, the 
Bankruptcy Act and other legislation. 

Members of the House of Commons: 

You will be asked to appropriate the funds required for the services and 
payments authorized by Parliament. 

Honourable Members of the Senate: 

Members of the House of Commons: 

May Divine Providence guide you in your deliberations. 



On motion of Mr. Pearson, seconded by Mr. Favreau, it was ordered, — 
That the Speech of His Excellency, delivered this day from the Throne to both 
Houses of Parliament, be taken into consideration later this day. 



Mr. Pearson, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, delivered a Message 
from His Excellency the Governor General, which was read by Mr. Speaker, 
as follows: 

GEORGES-P. VANIER: 

The Governor General transmits to the House of Commons a certified copy 
of an Order in Council appointing the Honourable George James Mcllraith, 
the Honourable John Robert Nicholson, the Honourable Maurice Sauve and 
the Honourable Edgar John Benson, to act with the Speaker of the House of 
Commons as commissioners for the purposes and under the provisions of the 
one hundred and forty-third chapter of the Revised Statutes of Canada, 1952, 
intituled: An Act respecting the House of Commons. 

Government House, 
Ottawa, April 5, 1965. 



April 5, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 7 

On motion of Mr. Pearson, seconded by Mr. Favreau, a Special Committee 
was appointed to prepare and report, with all convenient speed, lists of Mem- 
bers to compose the Standing Committees of this House; the said Committee to 
be composed of Messrs. Churchill, Gregoire, Knowles, Mcllraith, Patterson, 
Walker and Winkler, and that the provisions of Standing Order 65(1) be sus- 
pended in relation to the number of Members thereon. 



On motion of Mr. Pearson, seconded by Mr. Favreau, Herman Maxwell 
Batten, Esquire, Member for the Electoral District of Humber-St. George's was 
appointed Deputy Chairman of Committees of the Whole House. 



Pursuant to Special Order made this day, the Order for the consideration 
of the Speech from the Throne delivered by His Excellency the Governor Gen- 
eral of Canada to both Houses of Parliament being read; 

Mr. Cashin, seconded by Mr. Chretien, moved, — That the following Ad- 
dress be presented to His Excellency the Governor General of Canada: To His 
Excellency General the Right Honourable Georges-P. Vanier, Companion of 
the Distinguished Service Order, upon whom has been conferred the Military 
Cross and the Canadian Forces' Decoration, Governor General and Commander- 
in-Chief of Canada. 

May It Please Your Excellency: 

We, Her Majesty's most loyal and dutiful subjects, the House of Commons 
of Canada, in Parliament assembled, beg leave to offer our humble thanks to 
Your Excellency for the gracious Speech which Your Excellency has addressed 
to both Houses of Parliament. 

And debate arising thereon; the said debate was, on motion of Mr. Dief en- 
baker, seconded by Mr. Churchill, adjourned. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Speaker, — Report of the Parliamentary Librarian, pursuant to 
section 2 of the Regulations respecting the Library of Parliament (English and 
French), which is as follows: 

To the Honourable the Speaker of the House of Commons, 

The Parliamentary Librarian has the honour to submit his report for the 
Calendar year 1964. As the last report was presented to both Houses on Febru- 
ary 18, 1964, there will be some slight repetition. 

The Joint Committee met three times during the last session, on May 
14, October 15, and December 15, to review Library matters, chiefly salary 
revisions. 

The publication of the "Selected Additions List" was continued for the 
benefit of Senators and Members. 



8 HOUSE OF COMMONS April 5, 1965 

From January 1st to December 31st, 1964, our staff answered 3,739 refer- 
ence questions, and circulated 24,162 books and periodicals, including 914 to 
other libraries. During the same period, 12,136 volumes were catalogued and 
classified, which brings to 213,622 the number of volumes recatalogued since 
the fire of 1952. 

The Vertical File and Clipping Service, consisting of approximately 3,300 
files from 16 regularly clipped Canadian newspapers and other sources, is prov- 
ing its value. Our Xerox photocopier, received early in 1964, enables us to pro- 
vide copies of clippings, articles or pages from books, and, in 1964, there were 
41,119 copies made. This helps ensure that needed information is always avail- 
able, as copies are frequently provided rather than the originals, Mrs. Zora 
Zink was placed in charge of this service, and visited Toronto in December to 
study the Legislative Clipping Service, the Vertical File of the Toronto Public 
Library, and those of the Toronto daily newspapers. 

We were particularly fortunate this year in substantially strengthening our 
staff with the appointment as Chief Reference Librarian of Miss Simone Chias- 
son, formerly Chief Librarian of the Department of Trade and Commerce. We 
were also fortunate in being able to appoint Mr. Philip Laundy, formerly Par- 
liamentary Librarian of Southern Rhodesia. His experience, and especially his 
world-wide and deserved reputation as an expert on Parliamentary matters, 
makes him a significant acquisition at this time. He is the author of the compre- 
hensive The Office of Speaker, and co-author of the standard work the Ency- 
clopedia of Parliament, now in its second edition. 

In December, 1964, one of our senior Reference Librarians, Mr. Lucien 
Lusignan, retired after 25 years of service. On November 1st, Mr. Tsung-Yu Lu, 
formerly of the Library of the Department of Transport, was appointed to the 
Reference Section. Miss Olive Gouthreau has been returned to us by the Eco- 
nomic Council of Canada after assisting in the establishment of their Library. 

In April the Parliamentary Librarian, as requested, submitted a descriptive 
"Working Paper" to the Sub-Committee on Establishment, Special Committee 
on Procedure and Organization, House of Commons. It outlined possible areas 
of improved service to all Parliamentarians, and some aspects of this working 
paper were discussed with the Chairman of the Sub- Committee, Dr. Pauline 
Jewett, and two of its members, Mr. Georges Lachance, and Mr. Gordon Fair- 
weather, on June 15th. Following the recommendations regarding research 
facilities for Members within the Library of Parliament contained in the 12th 
Report of the Special Committee on Procedure and Organization, provision for 
this was made in the Budget prepared for 1965-1966. In addition, a demonstra- 
tion of the IBM system of Selective Dissemination of Information was arranged 
for committee members late in September. It should also be mentioned here 
that we were able to give very substantial assistance to the Committee by pro- 
viding the services of Mr. Philip Laundy on an almost full-time basis. 

The Parliamentary Librarian and three University librarians spent from 
June 17th to July 19th in West Germany at the invitation of the Government of 
the West German Federal Republic, studying government, university, special, 
and public libraries, and exchanging views on new library methods and tech- 
niques with leading librarians in that country. Of particular value were his 
special visits to the Federal Parliamentary Library in Bonn, and the Legislative 
Libraries in Wiesbaden, Mainz, Stuttgart, Munich, Hanover, and West Berlin 



April 5, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 9 

(where both the Legislative and Senate Libraries were visited). The Canadian 
librarians were cordially received everywhere, and were given valuable infor- 
mation on the kind of service libraries provide to the German people. 

The Parliamentary Librarian, a Past-President of the Ontario Library 
Association, attended the Annual Conference in May in Toronto. He also 
attended the Convention of the Institute of Public Administration of Canada 
in September at Charlottetown, and his visit to the Legislative Library there 
completed useful visits to Canadian Legislative Libraries. 

In order to support the professional development of staff, we have encour- 
aged more widespread participation in Library and related Associations and 
Conferences. 

The Associate Parliamentary Librarian, the Chief Reference Librarian, and 
a member of the Cataloguing Section, attended the Annual Meeting of the 
Association Canadienne des Bibliothecaires de Langue Francaise in Montreal in 
October. The Associate Parliamentary Librarian also attended the Annual Meet- 
ing of the Royal Society of Canada, of which he was President of Section I 
(French Humanities), in Charlottetown in June. 

The Assistant Librarian, a Director, attended the Annual Meeting of the 
Institute of Professional Librarians of Ontario in May, and its Workshop at 
Lake Couchiching in October. The Head of our Cataloguing Section, and a 
member of her staff, attended the Fall Workshop Meeting — Ontario Resources 
and Technical Services Group of the Ontario Library Association in Hamil- 
ton in November. The Chief Reference Librarian attended a Conference on 
Automation at the Universite Laval in June. In November nine of our librarians 
attended a course on Automated Data Processing and its application to li- 
braries. 

The Parliamentary Librarian accepted the invitation of the President of 
the University of Toronto to serve on the Sub-Committee on Librarianship of 
the Ontario University Presidents' Research Committee, and attended meetings 
in Toronto on October 27th and November 24th. The purpose of the Sub-Com- 
mittee is to report on the need for and location of a new Library School, and 
the future training of Librarians in Ontario. 

Members of Parliament may also be interested to know that the Parliamen- 
tary Librarian was called upon to examine and advise on the reorganization of 
the Library of the Department of Veterans Affairs early in April. In June he 
represented the Canadian Library Association at the planning meeting of the 
Canadian Conference on Aging. 

The Parliamentary Librarian accepted the Chairmanship of the Beta Sigma 
Phi Canadian First Novel Award Board. This yearly Award of $1,000.00 is 
sponsored by the International Sorority, Beta Sigma Phi, with headquarters in 
Kansas City. The Associate Parliamentary Librarian continued to serve on the 
Boards of the Prix Duvernay, and of the Prix du Cercle du Livre de France. 
In 1964 he published Panorama des Lettres canadiennes francaises: Canadian 
Writers /Ecrivains Canadiens (with Brandon Conron & Carl F. Klinck) : as well 
as the 4th edition of his Anthologie de la Poesie Canadienne Francaise. 

A number of distinguished visitors called during the year to see the Li- 
brary; His Excellency, John Reid, High Commissioner for New Zealand; His 
Excellency Somchai Anuman-Rajadhon, Ambassador of Thailand; His Excel- 
lency Karl T. Tikanvaara, Ambassador of Finland; The Hon. Stewart E. McLean, 
Q.C., M.L.A., Attorney General of Manitoba; His Excellency Gershon Avner, 
Ambassador of Israel; Mr. M. Dagan, Counsellor, Embassy of Israel. Many 



10 HOUSE OF COMMONS April 5, 1965 

librarians also visited, among them, Dr. J. Nemeth, Chief Reference Librarian, 
FAO, Rome; M. Gerard Martin, Director of the Public Library Service, Province 
of Quebec; Mrs. Doris Lewis, Chief Librarian, University of Waterloo; Mr. Keith 
Crouch, Chief Librarian, Sir George Williams University, Montreal; and Mr. 
Thomas O'Connell of York University. 

We were pleased to receive two manuscripts during the year: one from Mr. 
John Beal of the Parliamentary Press Gallery, being the manuscript copy of 
his book The Pearson Phenomenon; the other from Mr. Ray Brown, a former 
President of the Parliamentary Press Gallery, his unpublished manuscript 
entitled From Where I Sat. 

Many other donations were also received, the most notable of which were 
from His Excellency Somchai Anuman-Rajadhon, Ambassador of Thailand; Mr. 
Vladimir M. Semenov, First Secretary of the Embassy of the Union of Soviet 
Socialist Republics; Mr. Francois Weymuller, Cultural Counsellor of the French 
Embassy; and Mr. H. J. Lawford, of Queen's University, who presented us with 
a complete set of the Working Papers relating to the Queen's University Treaty 
Project. His Excellency Dr. Edwardo Brazao, Ambassador of Portugal, pre- 
sented the Library with a copy of his book La Decouverte de Terre-Neuve. All 
of these donations, and many others, have enriched our resources. 

Finally, at the request of both Speakers, Mr. H. L. Laframboise, Chief, 
Organization Division, Advisory Service Branch, Civil Service Commission, con- 
ducted an organization study of the Library of Parliament, and his interesting 
Draft Report was completed in December, 1964. 

Respectfully submitted, 

ERIK J. SPICER, 
Parliamentary Librarian. 

Library of Parliament, 
Ottawa, April 5, 1965. 

By Mr. Lamontagne, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Return to 
an Order of the House, dated March 3, 1965, for a copy of all correspondence, 
submissions and presentations exchanged between any Minister or department 
or any executive assistant and Senator Louis P. Gelinas relating to Harry Stone- 
hill. — (Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers No. 225). 



At 5.02 o'clock p.m., on motion of Mr. Mcllraith, seconded by Mr. Sharp, 
the House adjourned until tomorrow at 2.30 o'clock p.m. pursuant to Standing 
Order 2(2). 



14 ELIZABETH II— A.D. 1965 11 

No. 2 

JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, TUESDAY, APRIL 6, 1965. 



2.30 o'clock p.m. 

Prayers. 

One petition for a Private Bill was presented in accordance with Standing 
Order 70(1). 



Mr. Martin (Essex East), a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, laid 
before the House, — ^Copy of a Report by the International Commission for 
Supervision and Control in Vietnam, dated February 27, 1965. (English and 
French). 



The House resumed the adjourned debate on the proposed motion of Mr. 
Cashin, seconded by Mr. Chretien, — That the following Address be presented to 
His Excellency the Governor General of Canada: 

To His Excellency General the Right Honourable Georges-P. Vanier, Com- 
panion of the Distinguished Service Order, upon whom has been conferred the 
Military Cross and the Canadian Forces' Decoration, Governor General and 
Commander-in-Chief of Canada. 

May It Please Your Excellency: 

We, Her Majesty's most loyal and dutiful subjects, the House of Commons 
of Canada, in Parliament assembled, beg leave to offer our humble thanks to 
Your Excellency for the gracious Speech which Your Excellency has addressed 
to both Houses of Parliament. 

And debate continuing; 



12 HOUSE OF COMMONS April 6, 1965 

Mr. Diefenbaker, seconded by Mr. Starr, moved in amendment thereto, — 
That the following be added to the Address: 

"We respectfully regret that Your Excellency's advisers, because of con- 
fusion and indecision in dealing with national problems, and the careless in- 
difference and neglect of the Prime Minister in refusing to take action to eradi- 
cate wrongdoing in high and low places under federal responsibility and to 
restore public confidence in the honesty and integrity of government, no longer 
enjoy the confidence of this House and of the Canadian people." 

And debate arising thereon; 

Mr. Douglas, seconded by Mr. Fisher, moved in amendment to the said 
proposed amendment, — That the amendment be amended by inserting therein, 
immediately after the words "because of confusion and indecision in dealing 
with national problems," the following words: 

"including their failure to present specific proposals for a universal and 
comprehensive medicare program for all the people of Canada." 

And debate arising thereon; the said debate was interrupted. 



(Proceedings on Adjournment Motion) 

By unanimous consent, at 9.56 o'clock p.m., the question "That this House 
do now adjourn" was deemed to have been proposed pursuant to provisional 
Standing Order 39-A; 

After debate thereon, the said question was deemed to have been adopted. 



At 10.02 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow 
at 2.30 o'clock p.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(2). 



14 ELIZABETH II— A.D. 1965 13 

No. 3 

JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

or CANADA 



OTTAWA, WEDNESDAY, APRIL 7, 1965. 



2.30 o'clock p.m. 

Prayers. 

A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Honourable Senators Belisle, Cameron, Davies, Fergusson, Fournier (de 
Lanaudiere), Gladstone, Gouin, Haig, Irvine, Lambert, MacDonald (Queens), 
O'Leary (Antigonish-Guyshorough), Pouliot, Reid, Vien, White and Yuzyk 
have been appointed a Committee to assist the Honourable the Speaker in the 
direction of the Library of Parliament, so far as the interests of the Senate 
are concerned, and to act on behalf of the Senate as Members of a Joint Com- 
mittee of both Houses on the said Library. 



A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Honourable Senators Bouffard, Bradley, Comeau, Davies, Dupuis, Flynn, 
Isnor, McGrand, O'Leary (Antigonish-Guyshorough) , Pearson, Phillips, Reid, 
Savoie, Smith (Kamloops), Stambaugh, Sullivan, Welch, Willis and Wood 
have been appointed a Committee to superintend the printing of the Senate 
during the present Session and to act on behalf of the Senate as Members of 
a Joint Committee of both Houses on the subject of the Printing of Parliament. 



A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Honourable the Speaker, the Honourable Senators Beaubien (Provencher) , 
Fergusson, Inman, Macdonald (Cape Breton), McLean, and Reid have been ap- 
pointed a Committee to direct the management of the Restaurant of Parlia- 
ment, so far as the interests of the Senate are concerned, and to act on behalf 
of the Senate as Members of a Joint Committee of both Houses on the said 
Restaurant. 



14 



HOUSE OF COMMONS 



April 7, 1965 



The House resumed debate on the proposed motion of Mr. Cashin, seconded 
by Mr. Chretien, — That the following Address be presented to His Excellency 
the Governor General of Canada; 

To His Excellency General the Right Honourable Georges-P. Vanier, Com- 
panion of the Distinguished Service Order, upon v^hom has been conferred the 
MiUtary Cross and the Canadian Forces' Decoration, Governor General and 
Commander-in-Chief of Canada. 



May It Please Your Excellency: 

We, Her Majesty's most loyal and dutiful subjects, the House of Commons 
of Canada, in Parhament assembled, beg leave to offer our humble thanks to 
Your Excellency for the gracious Speech which Your Excellency has addressed 
to both Houses of Parliament; 

And on the proposed motion of Mr. Diefenbaker, seconded by Mr. Starr, 
in amendment thereto, — That the following be added to the Address: 

"We respectfully regret that Your Excellency's advisers, because of con- 
fusion and indecision in dealing with national problems, and the careless in- 
difference and neglect of the Prime Minister in refusing to take action to eradi- 
cate wrongdoing in high and low places under federal responsibility and to 
restore public confidence in the honesty and integrity of government, no longer 
enjoy the confidence of this House and of the Canadian people"; 

And on the proposed motion of Mr. Douglas, seconded by Mr. Fisher, in 
amendment to the said proposed amendment, — That the amendment be amended 
by inserting therein, immediately after the words "because of confusion and 
indecision in dealing with national problems," the following words: 

"including their failure to present specific proposals for a universal and 
comprehensive medicare program for all the people of Canada." 

And debate continuing; at 5.45 p.m., Mr. Speaker interrupted the proceed- 
ings pursuant to Standing Order 38(3); 

And the question being put on the said proposed amendment to the amend- 
ment, it was negatived on the following division: 

Yeas 



Messrs: 



Aiken, 

Alkenbrack, 

Barnett, 

Bell, 

Bigg, 

Brewin, 

Cadieu, 

Cameron (Nanaimo- 

Cowichan-The 

Islands), 
Cantelon, 
Cardiff, 
Chatterton, 
Churchill, 
Clancy, 
Coates, 
Grouse, 
Danforth, 



Diefenbaker, 

Dinsdale, 

Douglas, 

Fane, 

Fisher, 

Flemming, 

(Victoria- 

Carleton), 
Forbes, 
Girouard, 
Grafftey, 
Gundlock, 
Hales, 
Herridge, 
Horner (Jasper - 

Edson), 
Howard, 



Howe (Hamilton 
South), 

Howe (Wellington- 
Huron), 

Irvine, 

Jones (Mrs.), 

Jorgenson, 

Kennedy, 

Knowles, 

Korchinski, 

Lambert, 

Loney, 

MacEwan, 

MacLean (Queens), 

Macquarrie, 

MacRae, 

McBain, 

Mcintosh, 



Madill, 

Mandziuk, 

Martin (Timmins), 

Millar, 

Moore, 

More, 

Muir (Cape Breton 

North & Victoria), 
Muir (Lisgar), 
Nasserden, 
Nesbitt, 
Nielsen, 
Noble, 
Nowlan, 
Nugent, 
Orlikow, 
Ormiston, 
Pascoe, 



April 7, 1965 


HOUSE 


OF COMMONS 


1 


Pigeon, 


Saltsman, 


Starr, 


Watson (Assiniboia), 


Pugh, 


Simpson, 


Stefanson. 


Webb, 


Rapp, 


Skoreyko, 


Thomas, 


Webster, 


Ricard, 


Smallwood, 


Valade. 


Willoughby, 


Rynard, 


Southam, 


Vincent, 

Nays 
Messrs: 


Winch, 
Winkler— 84. 


Addison, 


Cote (Longueuil) 


Klein, 


Olson, 


Armstrong, 


Crossman, 


Konantz (Mrs.), 


Otto, 


Asselin (Notre- 


Cyr. 


Lachance, 


Patterson, 


Dame de Grace), 


Davis, 


Laing, 


Paul, 


Asselin (Richmond- 


Deachman, 


LaMarsh (Miss), 


Pearson, 


Wolfe). 


Dionne, 


Lamoureux, 


Pennell, 


Badanai, 


Drouin, 


Langlois, 


Pepin, 


Balcer, 


Dube, 


Laniel, 


Perron, 


Basford, 


Emard, 


Laprise, 


Pickersgill, 


Batten, 


Ethier, 


Latulippe, 


Pilon, 


Beaule, 


Eudes, 


Laverdiere, 


Plourde, 


Bechard, 


Favreau, 


Leblanc, 


Prud'homme, 


Beer, 


Forest, 


Leboe, 


Richard, 


Belanger, 


Francis, 


Legault, 


Rideout (Mrs.), 


Benidickson, 


Frenette, 


Lessard (Lac-Saint- 


• Rinfret, 


Benson, 


Gauthier, 


Jean), 


Robichaud, 


Berger, 


Gelber, 


Lessard (Saint- 


Rochon, 


Blouin, 


Gendron, 


Henri), 


Rock, 


Boulanger, 


Godin, 


Lloyd, 


Rondeau, 


Boutin, 


Granger, 


Loiselle, 


Roxburgh, 


Brown, 


Gray, 


Macaluso, 


Ryan, 


Byrne, 


Greene, 


Macdonald, 


Sharp, 


Cadieux, 


Gregoire, 


MacNaught, 


Stewart, 


Cameron (High 


Groos, 


Mcllraith, 


Tardif, 


Park), 


Guay, 


McMillan, 


Temple, 


Cantin, 


Habel, 


McNulty, 


Thompson, 


Caouette, 


Hahn, 


McWilliam, 


Tremblay, 


Cardin, 


Haidasz, 


Marcoux, 


Tucker, 


Caron, 


Harley, 


Matheson, 


Turner, 


Carter, 


Hays, 


Matte, 


Wahn, 


Chapdelaine, 


Hellyer, 


Moreau, 


Walker, 


Choquette, 


Honey, 


Morison, 


Watson (Chateau- 


Chretien, 


Jewett (Miss), 


Mullally, 


guay-Huntingdon- 


Cote (Chicoutimi). 


Kelly, 


O'Keefe, 


Laprairie — 129. 



15 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 



The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Pickersgill, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Report of the 
Cornwall International Bridge Company Limited, for the year ended September 
30, 1964, certified by the Auditor General, pursuant to sections 85(3) and 87(3) 
of the Financial Administration Act, chapter 116, R.S.C., 1952. (English and 
French) . 

By Mr. Pickersgill,— Order in Council P.C. 1965-353, dated February 25, 
1965, withdrawing from entrustment to the Canadian National Railway Com- 



16 HOUSE OF COMMONS April 7, 1965 

pany and authorizing the grant of Letters Patent covering approximately 8.83 
acres of the abandoned reservoir and pipeline right-of-way near St. Leonard, 
in the Parish of St. Leonard, County of Madawaska, Province of New Bruns- 
wick, pursuant to section 19 of the Canadian National Railways Act, chapter 
29, Statutes of Canada, 1955. 

By Mr. Pickersgill, — Order in Council P.C. 1965-354, dated February 25, 
1965, withdrawing from entrustment to the Canadian National Railway Com- 
pany and authorizing the grant of Letters Patent covering approximately 2,282 
sq. ft. of land in the City of Moncton, County of Westmorland, Province of 
New Brunswick, pursuant to section 19 of the Canadian National Railways Act, 
chapter 29, Statutes of Canada, 1955. 

By Mr. Pickersgill,— Order in Council P.C. 1965-458, dated March 12, 1965, 
withdrawing from entrustment to the Canadian National Railway Company and 
authorizing the conveyance of parcels of the abandoned Armagh Subdivision 
right-of-way of the official plan for the Parish of St. Jean-Chrysostome, Regis- 
tration Division of Levis, Province of Quebec, pursuant to section 19 of the 
Canadian National Railways Act, chapter 29, Statutes of Canada, 1955. 

By Mr. Pickersgill,— Order in Council P.C. 1965-459, dated March 12, 1965, 
withdrawing from entrustment to the Canadian National Railway Company and 
authorizing the conveyance of approximately 5.545 acres of land in the Town of 
Cochrane, Province of Ontario, pursuant to section 19 of the Canadian National 
Railways Act, chapter 29, Statutes of Canada, 1955. 

By Mr. Pickersgill, — Order in Council P.C. 1965-556, dated March 22, 1965, 
withdrawing from entrustment to the Canadian National Railway Company and 
authorizing the grant of Letters Patent covering parcels of surplus Canadian 
Government Railways land at Hadlow, Quebec, in St. Laurent Ward, City of 
Levis, Registration Division of Levis, Province of Quebec, pursuant to section 
19 of the Canadian National Railways Act, chapter 29, Statutes of Canada, 1955. 

By Mr. Pickersgill, — Order in Council P.C. 1965-557, dated March 25, 1965, 
withdrawing from entrustment to the Canadian National Railway Company 
and authorizing the grant of Letters Patent covering a parcel of Canadian Gov- 
ernment Railways land being part of Lot 446 in St. Laurent Ward, City of 
Levis, Province of Quebec, pursuant to section 19 of the Canadian National 
Railways Act, chapter 29, Statutes of Canada, 1955. 

By Mr. Pickersgill, — Order in Council P.C. 1965-558, dated March 25, 1965, 
withdrawing from entrustment to the Canadian National Railway Company and 
authorizing the grant of Letters Patent covering twenty-nine parcels of surplus 
Railway land in St. Laurent Ward, Registration Division of Levis, Province of 
Quebec, pursuant to section 19 of the Canadian National Railways Act, chapter 
29, Statutes of Canada, 1955. 

By Mr. Sharp, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Report of Eldorado 
Mining and Refining Limited and its subsidiary companies, Eldorado Aviation 
Limited, and Northern Transportation Company Limited, including their Ac- 
counts and Financial Statements certified by the Auditor General, for the year 
ended December 31, 1964, pursuant to sections 85(3) and 87(3) of the Financial 
Administration Act, chapter 116, R.S.C., 1952. English and French). 



April 7, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 17 

First Report of the Clerk of Petitions pursuant to Standing Order 70(7) as 
follows : 

The Clerk of Petitions has the honour to report that the petition of the fol- 
lowing, presented on April 6, meets the requirements of Standing Order 70: 

Peter Paul Saunders, Andrew Elliott Saxton and William Crossley Main- 
waring, all of the City of Vancouver, in the Province of British Columbia, and 
several others of both the Provinces of British Columbia and Quebec, for an 
Act to incorporate Laurentide Bank of Canada and/or "Banque Laurentide 
du Canada", and for other purposes. — Mr. Basford. 



At 6.15 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put until tomorrow at 11.00 o'clock a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 2(2). 



ELIZABETH II— A.D. 1965 19 

No. 4 

JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, THURSDAY, APRIL 8, 1965. 



11.00 o'clock a.m. 
Prayers. 

STATEMENT BY MR. SPEAKER 

Mr. Speaker: As honourable Members will have noticed, there are on 
today's Order Paper almost 100 Public Bills listed for introduction by private 
Members. 

It would be difficult, if not impossible, for the Chair to review the provi- 
sions of these Bills at this time. In view of that fact, may I suggest to the 
House that we adopt the procedure which was agreed upon by the House in the 
past two sessions; namely, that we proceed to the introduction and first reading 
of these Bills, so that each may be scrutinized between now and the time 
appointed for its second reading, in order to determine whether there be any 
defect therein with respect to the practices and usages of the House. 

Therefore, in order to save the time of the House, taking into considera- 
tion that perhaps more than two hours would be required to introduce each 
of these measures separately, it is suggested that, by unanimous consent, all 
the Bills listed for introduction on today's Order Paper be deemed to have been 
introduced, given first reading and ordered for a second reading at the next 
sitting of the House, subject of course to a subsequent examination as to the 
regularity of each Bill. 



Accordingly, by unanimous consent, the following bills were deemed, by 
leave of the House, to have been introduced, read a first time, and ordered for 
a second reading at the next sitting of the House: 

Bill C-2, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (The Judas-Tree Amend- 
ment). — Mr. Fisher. 



20 HOUSE OF COMMONS April 8, 1965 

Bill C-3, An Act respecting the National Game of Canada (Lacrosse). — 
Mr. Prittie. 

Bill C-4, An Act to Preserve and Promote Native Indian and Eskimo Arts 
and Crafts.~Mr. Howard. 

Bill C-5, An Act to amend the Transport Act and the Railway Act (B.C. 
Water Carriers). — Mr, Barnett. 

Bill C-6, An Act respecting Canada Day. — Mr. Chretien. 

Bill C-7, An Act to amend the Juvenile Delinquents Act (Application to 
Mentally Retarded). — Mr. Howe {Hamilton South). 

Bill C-8, An Act to amend the Canadian Citizenship Act (Freedom of Con- 
science). — Mr. Fisher. 

Bill C-9, An Act to amend the Bank of Canada Act (Form and Material of 
Notes). — Mr. Cote (Chicoutimi) . 

Bill C-10, An Act to provide for Control of the Use of Collateral Bills and 
Notes in Consumer Credit Transactions. — Mr. Ryan. 

Bill C-11, An Act to provide for the Protection of News Sources (Press 
Privilege). — Mr. Fisher. 

Bill C-12, An Act to amend the Immigration Act (Foreign Intervention in 
Industrial Disputes). — Mr. Ormiston. 

Bill C-13, An Act to amend the Immigration Act (Disclosure of Reasons 
for Deportation). — Mr. Brewin. 

Bill C-14, An Act respecting Sir John A. Macdonald Day. — Mr. Macquarrie. 

Bill C-15, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (Raffles and Bingo for 
Charitable Purposes). — Mr. Gray. 

Bill C-16, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (Disturbing the Public 
Peace). — Mr. Gelher. 

Bill C-17, An Act to provide for the Establishment of the Canada Disaster 
Fund. — Mr. Herridge. 

Bill C-18, An Act to restrain the use of Tobacco. — Mr. Mather. 

Bill C-19, An Act to amend the Oaths of Allegiance Act (Affirmation). — 
Mr. Howe (Hamilton South). 

Bill C-20, An Act to amend the Railway Act (Abandonment Moratorium). 

— Mr. Southam. 

Bill C-21, An Act to amend the Fisheries Act (Forfeiture Floor). — Mr. 
Carter. 

Bill C-22, An Act to amend the Agricultural Stabilization Act (Hog and 
Egg prices stabilized half-yearly and regionally). — Mr. Rapp. 



April 8, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 21 

Bill C-23, An Act to amend the Immigration Act. — Mr. Hahn. 

Bill C-24, An Act to amend the Small Loans Act. — Mr. Orlikow. 

Bill C-25, An Act to amend the Bank of Canada Act (Reserve). — Mr. 
Cote (Chicoutimi). 

Bill C-26, An Act respecting Marriage (Age of Marriage). — Mr. Matheson. 

Bill C-27, An Act to amend an Act to amend the Senate and House of 
Commons Act and the Members of Parliament Retiring Allowances Act. — 
Mr. Marcoux. 

Bill C-28, An Act to amend the Broadcasting Act. — Mr. Chretien. 

Bill C-29, An Act to amend the Canada Evidence Act (Privileged Com- 
munications). — Mr. Matheson. 

Bill C-30, An Act respecting Genocide. — Mr. Klein. 

Bill C-31, An Act to amend the Family Allowances Act and the Old Age 
Security Act (Charitable Gifts). — Mr. Harley. 

Bill C-32, An Act to amend the House of Commons Act (Speaker on Dis- 
solution). — Mr. Whelan. 

Bill C-33, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (A Purge for the King's- 
evil). — Mr. Fisher. 

Bill C-34, An Act to amend the Railway Act. — Mr. Prittie. 

Bill C-35, An Act to amend the Senate and House of Commons Act (Al- 
lowance to leaders). — Mr. Marcoux. 

Bill C-36, An Act to amend the Criminal Code. — Mr. Prittie. 

Bill C-37, An Act to amend the Combines Investigation Act (Captive Sales 
Financing). — Mr. Noble. 

Bill C-38, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (Insanity). — Mr. Brewin. 

Bill C-39, An Act to better assure the public's rights to Freedom of 
access to public documents and information about government administration 
(Administrative Disclosure). — Mr. Mather. 

Bill C-40, An Act to amend the Broadcasting Act (Community Antenna). 
— Mr. Fisher. 

Bill C-41, An Act to amend the Canada Fair Employment Practices Act 
(Age Discrimination). — Mr. Mather. 

Bill C-42, An Act to amend the Income Tax Act. — Mr. Howard. 



22 HOUSE OF COMMONS April 8, 1965 

Bill C-43, An Act to amend the Post Office Act (Hate Literature). — Mr. 
Orlikow. 

Bill C-44, An Act to amend the Unemployment Insurance Act (Agricul- 
tural Employees' Coverage). — Mr. Rapp. 

Bill C-45, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (Company Housing). — Mr. 
Orlikow. 

Bill C-46, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (Commutation of death 
sentence). — Mr. Temple. 

Bill C-47, An Act respecting the Flag Day of Canada. — Mr. Rinfret. 

Bill C-48, An Act to amend the Railway Act (Responsibility for Disloca- 
tion Costs). — Mr. Fisher. 

Bill C-49, An Act to amend the Bankruptcy Act (Wage Earners' Assign- 
ments). — Mr. Orlikow. 

Bill C-50, An Act to amend the Canada Grain Act (Off- track Elevator 
Licensing). — Mr. Olson. 

Bill C-51, An Act to provide for the Development of certain Provinces by 
the Distribution of Industry and for the Reduction of Unemployment therein. — 
Mr. Coates. 

Bill C-52, An Act to amend the Weights and Measures Act (Truth in 
Packaging). — Mr. Orlikow. 

Bill C-53, An Act respecting the Parliamentary Staff. — Mr. Aiken. 

Bill C-54, An Act to amend the British North America Act, 1867 (Abolition 
of the Senate). — Mr. Knowles. 

Bill C-55, An Act to provide for a Canadian National Anthem. — Mr. Ryan. 

Bill C-56, An Act to amend the Combines Investigation Act (Consent 
Decree). — Mr. Gelher. 

Bill C-57, An Act to amend the Radio Act (Community Antenna). — Mr. 
Fisher. 

Bill C-58, An Act respecting the Department of Foreign Affairs. — Mr. 
Marcoux. 

Bill C-59, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (Contempt of Court). — 
Mr. Cowan. 

Bill C-60, An Act to amend the Canada Labour (Standards) Code (Sever- 
ance Pay). — Mr. Fisher. 

Bill C-61, An Act to establish the Office of Parliamentary Commissioner. — 
Mr. Thompson. 

Bill C-62, An Act to amend the Bills of Exchange Act and the Interest 
Act (Off-store Instalment Sales). — Mr. Orlikow. 



April 8, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 23 

Bill C-63, An Act to amend the Bankruptcy Act (Orderly Payment of 
Debts). — Mr. Smith. 

Bill C-64, An Act to repeal the Tobacco Restraint Act. — Mr. Cowan. 

Bill C-65, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (Provincial Lotteries). — 
Mr. Valade. 

Bill C-66, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (Nuisance). — Mr. Herridge. 

Bill C-67, An Act to amend the Combines Investigation Act (Floor Penal- 
ties, Criminal Joint Tortfeasors, and Moieties). — Mr. Orlikow. 

Bill C-68, An Act to amend the British North America Acts, 1867 to 1964, 
(Provincial Marriage and Divorce Laws). — Mr. Prittie. 

Bill C-69, An Act to amend the Financial Administration Act (Discre- 
tionary Garnishee against Crown). — Mr. Whelan. 

Bill C-70, An Act to amend the Canada Elections Act (Appointment of 
DRO's and Poll Clerks).— Mr. Francis. 

Bill C-71, An Act to amend the Trans-Canada Highway Act (Confedera- 
tion Road). — Mr. Fisher. 

Bill C-72, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (Wire Tapping, etc.). — 
Mr. Pennell. 

Bill C-73, An Act respecting the National Game of Canada. — Mr. Rox~ 
hurgh. 

Bill C-74, An Act to amend the Small Loans Act (Advertising). — Mr. 
Orlikow. 

Bill C-75, An Act to approve the Ex gratia payment of compensation to 
persons injured by aiding and assisting the Governor General to preserve 
and maintain the public peace and order and to dependents of persons killed 
thereby (Criminal Injuries Compensation Act). — Mr. Ormiston. 

Bill C-76, An Act to provide for the length of Sessions of Parliament. — Mr. 
Ryan. 

Bill C-77, An Act to amend the Northern Ontario Pipe Line Crown Cor- 
poration Act (Tisdale Grain Elevator). — Mr. Rapp. 

Bill C-78, An Act to amend the Financial Administration Act (Public 
Accounts). — Mr. Fisher. 

Bill C-79, An Act to amend the Canada Labour (Standards) Code (Increase 
in Minimum Hourly Wage). — Mr. Knowles. 

Bill C-80, An Act respecting the Inspection of Tobacco and Tobacco 
Products Entering into International and Interprovincial Trade (Tobacco 
Inspection Act). — Mr. Whelan. 



24 HOUSE OF COMMONS April 8, 1965 

Bill C-81, An Act to amend the Canada Labour (Standards) Code (Three 
Weeks Annual Vacation after Three Years). — Mr. Knowles. 

Bill C-82, An Act to amend the Broadcasting Act (Political Programs). — 
Mr. Harley. 

Bill C-83, An Act to amend the Interest Act. — Mr. Orlikow. 

Bill C-84, An Act to amend the National Capital Commission Act (Tenure 
of Office). — Mr. Francis. 

Bill C-85, An Act to amend the British North America Act, 1867 (Royal 
Assent, Reservation and Disallowance). — Mr. Choquette. 

Bill C-86, An Act to amend the Broadcasting Act (Disclosure of CBC service 
programme, cost, and estimates for 5 years. — Mr. Fisher. 

Bill C-87, An Act concerning the Exportation of the Growth and Produce 
of Canada. — Mr. Peters. 

Bill C-88, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (Family Planning). — Mr. 
Francis. 

Bill C-89, An Act to amend the Juvenile Delinquents Act. — Mr. Howard. 

Bill C-90, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (Restriction on publication 
of proceedings). — Mr. Lachance. 

Bill C-91, An Act to amend the Indian Act (Liquor Rights). — Mr. Barnett. 

Bill C-92, An Act respecting the Canada Medal. — Mr. Lehlanc. 

Bill C-93, An Act respecting Commonwealth Day. — Mr. Rynard. 



The House resumed debate on the proposed motion of Mr. Cashin, seconded 
by Mr. Chretien, — That the following Address be presented to His Excellency 
the Governor General of Canada; 

To His Excellency General the Right Honourable Georges-P. Vanier, Com- 
panion of the Distinguished Service Order, upon whom has been conferred the 
Military Cross and the Canadian Forces' Decoration, Governor General and 
Commander-in-Chief of Canada. 

May It Please Your Excellency: 

We, Her Majesty's most loyal and dutiful subjects, the House of Commons 
of Canada, in Parliament assembled, beg leave to offer our humble thanks to 
Your Excellency for the gracious Speech which Your Excellency has addressed 
to both Houses of Parliament; 

And on the proposed motion of Mr. Diefenbaker, seconded by Mr. Starr, in 
amendment thereto, — That the following be added to the Address: 

"We respectfully regret that Your Excellency's advisers, because of con- 
fusion and indecision in dealing with national problems, and the careless in- 
difference and neglect of the Prime Minister in refusing to take action to eradi- 



April 8, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 25 

cate wrongdoing in high and low places under federal responsibility and to 
restore public confidence in the honesty and integrity of government, no longer 
enjoy the confidence of this House and of the Canadian people"; 

And debate continuing; 

Mr. Marcoux, seconded by Mr. Patterson, moved in amendment to the said 
proposed amendment, — That the amendment moved by the Leader of the Oppo- 
sition be amended by inserting, after the word "advisers", the following: 
''having not carried out such economic and financial policies as the use of 
the facilities of the Bank of Canada would have permitted, having not thereby 
raised the family allowances in keeping with the cost of living, having not 
succeeded in establishing a balanced economy and in lightening the burden of 
the public debt and the interests thereon so as to provide every Canadian with 
a standard of living consistent with the value of this country's natural resources, 
having not deemed it appropriate to invest a huge amount of debt-free capital 
stock through the Bank of Canada, with a view to financing the training of an 
adequate staff to deal with medical and hospital care, do not enjoy the confidence 
of this House." 

And debate arising thereon; the said debate was interrupted. 



(Proceedings on Adjournment Motion) 

At 10.02 o'clock p.m., the question "That this House do now adjourn" was 
deemed to have been proposed pursuant to provisional Standing Order 39- A; 

After debate thereon, the said question was deemed to have been adopted. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Sharp, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Capital Budget of 
the Canadian Corporation for the 1967 World Exhibition for the financial year 
ending December 31, 1965, together with Order in Council P.C. 1965-518, dated 
March 25, 1965, approving same. (English and French). 

By Mr. Sharp, — Report of the Canadian Corporation for the 1967 World 
Exhibition, including its Statements of Accounts and the Report of the Auditor 
General of Canada and the Quebec Provincial Auditor thereon, for the year 
ended December 31, 1964, pursuant to section 18 of the Canadian Corporation 
for the 1967 World Exhibition Act, chapter 12, Statutes of Canada 1962- 
63, as amended 1963. (English and French). 



At 10.11 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow 
at 11.00 o'clock a.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(2). 



14 ELIZABETH II— A.D. 1965 27 

No. 5 

JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, FRIDAY, APRIL 9, 1965. 

11.00 o'clock a.m. 



Prayers. 



One petition for a Private Bill was presented in accordance with Standing 
Order 70(1). 

Mr. Gordon, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, laid before the House, 
— ^Report by the Tariff Board, dated January 29, 1965, relative to the Investiga- 
tion ordered by the Minister of Finance respecting Live Turkeys — Reference 
No. 136, (English and French), together with a copy of the transcript of the evi- 
dence presented at public hearings, pursuant to section 6 of the Tariff Board 
Act, chapter 261, R.S.C., 1952. 

The House resumed debate on the proposed motion of Mr. Cashin seconded 
by Mr. Chretien, for an Address to His Excellency the Governor General in 
reply to His Speech at the opening of the Session, and on the proposed motion 
of Mr. Diefenbaker, seconded by Mr. Starr, in amendment thereto; and on the 
proposed motion of Mr. Marcoux, seconded by Mr. Patterson, in amendment to 
the said proposed amendment. 

And debate continuing; 

By unanimous consent, the House reverted to "Motions". 

Mr. Favreau, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, laid before the House, 
— Copy of a Press Release respecting the government's intentions on (1) a 
special committee on corrections (2) a free vote on capital punishment. 

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, — That the said document be printed 
as an appendix to this day's Hansard. 

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28 HOUSE OF COMMONS April 9, 1965 

Debate was resumed on the proposed motion of Mr. Cashin, seconded 
by Mr. Chretien, — That the following Address be presented to His Excellency 
the Governor General of Canada; 

To His Excellency General the Right Honourable Georges-P. Vanier, Com- 
panion of the Distinguished Service Order, upon whom has been conferred the 

Military Cross and the Canadian Forces' Decoration, Governor General and 
Commander-in-Chief of Canada. 

May It Please Your Excellency: 

We, Her Majesty's most loyal and dutiful subjects, the House of Commons 
of Canada, in Parliament assembled, beg leave to offer our humble thanks to 
Your Excellency for the gracious Speech which Your Excellency has addressed 
to both Houses of Parliament; 

And on the proposed motion of Mr. Diefenbaker, seconded by Mr. Starr, in 
amendment thereto, — That the following be added to the Address: 

"We respectfully regret that Your Excellency's advisers, because of con- 
fusion and indecision in dealing with national problems, and the careless in- 
difference and neglect of the Prime Minister in refusing to take action to eradi- 
cate wrongdoing in high and low places under federal responsibility and to 
restore public confidence in the honesty and integrity of government, no longer 
enjoy the confidence of this House and of the Canadian people"; 

And on the proposed motion of Mr. Marcoux, seconded by Mr. Patterson, 
in amendment to the said proposed amendment, — That the amendment moved 
by the Leader of the Opposition be amended by inserting, after the word 
"advisers", the following: "having not carried out such economic and financial 
policies as the use of the facilities of the Bank of Canada would have permitted, 
having not thereby raised the family allowances in keeping with the cost of 
living, having not succeeded in establishing a balanced economy and in lighten- 
ing the burden of the public debt and the interests thereon so as to provide 
every Canadian with a standard of living consistent with the value of this 
country's natural resources, having not deemed it appropriate to invest a huge 
amount of debt-free capital stock through the Bank of Canada, with a view to 
financing the training of an adequate staff to deal with medical and hospital 
care, do not enjoy the confidence of this House." 

And debate continuing; at 5.30 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker interrupted the 
proceedings pursuant to Standing Order 38(4); 

And the question being put on the said proposed amendment to the amend- 
ment, it was negatived on division. 

And the question being put on the said proposed amendment to the main 
motion, it was negatived on the following division: 

Yeas 

Messrs: 

Aiken, Cadieu, Churchill, Douglas, 

Alkenbrack, Cameron (Nanaimo- Clancy, Fane, 

Baldwin, Cowichan-The Coates, Forbes, 

Beaule, Islands), Cote (Chicoutimi), Gauthier, 

Bell, Cantelon, Grouse, Gregoire, 

Bigg, Caouette, Danforth, Gundlock, 

Boutin, Cardiff, Diefenbaker, Hales, 

Brewin, Chatterton, Dinsdale, Harkness, 



April 9, 1965 



HOUSE OF COMMONS 



29 



Horner (Acadia), 


Lessard (Lac-Saint- 


Nasserden, 


Simpson, 


Horner (The Battle- 


Jean), 


Nesbitt, 


Skoreyko, 


fords), 


Loney, 


Noble, 


Smallwood, 


Howard, 


MacEwan, 


Nowlan, 


Southam, 


Howe (Hamilton 


Maclnnis, 


Nugent, 


Starr, 


South), 


MacLean (Queens), 


Ormiston, 


Stefanson, 


Jones (Mrs.), 


Macquarrie, 


Pascoe, 


Stenson, 


Jorgenson, 


McBain, 


Patterson, 


Thomas, 


Kennedy, 


McCutcheon, 


Perron, 


Thompson, 


Knowles, 


Mcintosh, 


Peters, 


Valade, 


Korchinski, 


Mandziuk, 


Plourde, 


Vincent, 


Lambert, 


Marcoux, 


Pugh, 


Watson (Assiniboia). 


Langlois, 


Martin (Timmins), 


Rapp, 


Webb, 


Laprise, 


More, 


Ricard, 


Webster, 


Latulippe, 


Muir (Cape Breton 


Rondeau, 


Willoughby, 


Leboe, 


North & Victoria) Rynard, 


Winkler, 




Muir (Lisgar), 


Scott, 


Woolliams— 93. 




Nays 






Messrs: 




Addison, 


Davis, 


Laing, 


Mullally, 


Armstrong, 


Deachman, 


LaMarsh (Miss), 


Munro, 


Asselin (Notre-Dame 


i-Deschatelets, 


Lamontagne, 


Nicholson, 


de Grace), 


Drouin, 


Lamoureux, 


Nixon, 


Asselin (Richmond- 


Dube, 


Laniel, 


O'Keefe, 


Wolfe). 


Emard, 


Laverdiere, 


Otto, 


Balcer, 


Ethier, 


Leblanc, 


Paul, 


Basford, 


Eudes, 


Leduc, 


Pearson, 


Batten, 


Forest, 


Legault, 


Pepin, 


Bechard, 


Francis, 


Lessard (Saint- 


Pilon, 


Beer, 


Gendron, 


Henri), 


Prud'homme, 


Benidickson. 


Godin, 


Lloyd, 


Regan, 


Benson, 


Gordon, 


Loiselle, 


Richard, 


Berger, 


Granger, 


Macaluso, 


Rideout (Mrs.), 


Blouin, 


Gray, 


Macdonald, 


Rinfret, 


Boulanger, 


Greene, 


MacEachen, 


Rochon, 


Brown, 


Guay, 


Mackasey, 


Rock, 


Cadieux, 


Habel, 


MacNaught, 


Roxburgh, 


Cantin, 


Hahn, 


Mcllraith, 


Tardif, 


Cardin, 


Haidasz, 


McMillan, 


Temple, 


Caron, 


Harley, 


McNulty, 


Tucker, 


Carter, 


Hellyer, 


McWilliam, 


Turner, 


Cashin, 


Honey, 


Martin (Essex East), 


Wahn, 


Choquette, 


Jewett (Miss), 


Matte, 


Walker, 


Chretien, 


Kelly, 


Mitchell, 


Watson (Chateau- 


Cote (Longueuil). 


Klein, 


Moreau, 


gu ay-Huntingdon- 


Crossman, 


Konantz (Mrs.), 


Morison, 


Laprairie), 


Cyr, 


Lachance, 




Whelan — 106. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 



The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Speaker, — Report of the Proceedings of the Commissioners of 
Internal Economy of the House of Commons, for the period February 18, 1964 
to April 3, 1965, pursuant to Standing Order 81. (English and French). 

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30 HOUSE OF COMMONS April 9, 1965 

By Mr. Favreau, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Copy of amend- 
ments made by the President and Puisne Judges of the Exchequer Court of 
Canada to the General Rules and Orders of the Exchequer Court of Canada, 
dated November 4 and December 3, 1964, and January 11, 1965, pursuant to 
section 88(2) of the Exchequer Court Act, chapter 98, R.S.C., 1952. (English 
and French). 

By Mr. Favreau, — Copy of amendment made July 17, 1964, by the President 
and Puisne Judges of the Exchequer Court of Canada to the General Rules and 
Orders regulating the Practice and Procedure in Admiralty cases in the Ex- 
chequer Court of Canada, pursuant to section 31(4) of the Admiralty Act, 
chapter 1, R.S.C., 1952. 

By the Examiner of Petitions for Private Bills, — First Report, pursuant to 
Standing Order 100(2), as follows: 

The Examiner of Petitions for Private Bills has the honour to report that 
the following petitioners have complied with the requirements of Standing 
Order 96: 

Peter Paul Saunders, Andrew Elliott Saxton and William Crossley Main- 
waring, all of the City of Vancouver, in the Province of British Columbia, and 
several others of both the Provinces of British Columbia and Quebec, for an 
Act to incorporate Laurentide Bank of Canada and/or "Banque Laurentide du 
Canada", and for other purposes. 



At six o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put until Monday at 11.00 o'clock a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 2(2). 



14 ELIZABETH II— A.D. 1965 31 

No. 6 

JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, MONDAY, APRIL 12, 1965. 



11.00 o'clock a.m. 

Prayers. 

Two petitions for Private Bills were presented in accordance with Standing 
Order 70(1). 



Mr. Gordon, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, laid before the House, 
— Budget White Paper 1965-66; Part I— General Economic Review of 1964; 
Part II — Preliminary Review of Government Accounts 1964-65. (English and 
French). 

Ordered, — That the said Budget White Paper be published as an appendix 
to this day's Votes and Proceedings and to Hansard of April 26, 1965. 



Mr. Knowles, seconded by Mr. Douglas, by leave of the House, introduced 
Bill C-94, An Act to amend the British North America Acts, 1867 to 1964, with 
respect to the Quorum of the House of Commons, which was read the first time 
and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House. 



The Clerk of the House laid upon the Table the following Private Bill: 

Bill C-95, An Act to incorporate Laurentide Bank of Canada. — Mr. Basford. 

The said Bill was deemed to have been read the first time and ordered for 
a second reading at the next sitting of the House, pursuant to Standing Order 
103(1). 



32 HOUSE OF COMMONS April 12, 1965 

By unanimous consent, Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Mcllraith, moved, — 
That the House do go into Committee of the Whole at its next sitting to con- 
sider the following proposed resolutions which were recommended to the House 
by His Excellency: 

That it is expedient to introduce a measure to provide for the decennial 
revision of the Bank Act and the extension of the charters of the existing 
chartered banks until July 1, 1975, and to provide further for certain changes 
in connection with the administration of the Act. 

That it is expedient to introduce a measure to provide for the decennial 
revision of the Quebec Savings Banks Act and the extension of the powers of 
the existing savings banks till July 1, 1975, and to provide further for certain 
changes in connection with the administration of the Act. 

That it is expedient to introduce a measure to amend the National Housing 
Act, 1954, to increase — 

(a) from two and one-half billion dollars to three and one-quarter bil- 
lion dollars the amount the Minister of Finance may advance to Central Mort- 
gage and Housing Corporation for the purpose of making direct loans to bor- 
rowers to assist in the construction of houses and housing projects; 

(b) from one hundred million dollars to three hundred million dollars 
the amount the Minister of Finance may advance or pay to the Corporation to 
make loans and grants relating to urban renewal schemes and to meet obliga- 
tions incurred under urban redevelopment agreements; 

(c) from fifty million dollars to one hundred and fifty million dollars the 
amount in the special account established in the Consolidated Revenue Fund out 
of which advances may be made towards public housing projects developed 
jointly by the Corporation and a province or any agency thereof; 

(d) from one hundred and fifty million dollars to two hundred million 
dollars the maximum amount the Minister may advance to the Corporation 
for the purpose of making loans for university housing projects; and 

(e) from six billion dollars to eight and one-half billion dollars the maxi- 
mum amount of all loans in respect of which insurance policies may be issued 
under the Act. 

That it is expedient to introduce a measure to provide for the retirement, 
upon attaining the age of seventy-five years, of any person appointed to the 
Senate after the coming into force of the said measure; to extend the provisions 
of the Members of Parliament Retiring Allowances Act to such persons; to 
provide for the granting of an annuity to any person appointed to the Senate 
before the coming into force of the said measure who resigns his place in the 
Senate after having attained the age of seventy-five years or having become 
afflicted with a permanent infirmity disabling him from the performance of his 
duties; and to provide further for the granting of an annuity to the widow of a 
person who was granted such an annuity upon resigning his place in the Senate. 

That it is expedient to introduce a measure to amend An Act to amend the 
Excise Tax Act, chapter 12 of the Statutes of 1963, to permit a refund of or 
deduction from tax or a payment of an amount equal to tax to be made in 
respect of designated goods described in section 10 of that Act that are sold and 
delivered, or applied to a use resulting in the property in the goods passing, 
after December 31, 1964. 



April 12, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 33 

That it is expedient to introduce a measure to amend certain Acts respecting 
the superannuation of persons employed in the Public Service, members of the 
Canadian Forces and members of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, to give 
effect to the provisions set out in Finance Votes 18d, 2 Id and 23d of the Sup- 
plementary Estimates (D) tabled in the House of Commons on March 19, 1965. 

Resolved, — That the House do go into Committee of the Whole at its next 
sitting to consider the said proposed resolutions. 



The following Notices of Motions having been called were transferred to 
Government Orders for consideration at the next sitting of the House pursuant 
to Standing Order 21(2): 

That the recommendations contained in the Report of the Prairie Farm 
Assistance Administration Commission of Enquiry, tabled on July 29, 1964, 
including the following two questions: 

1. Whether the permanent staff of the P.F.A.A. should be brought under 
the Civil Service Commission, and 

2. Whether there should be other changes in the operation of the P.F.A.A., 
be referred to the Standing Committee on Agriculture and Colonization for 
such recommendations as it deems advisable. — The Minister of Agriculture. 

That a Joint Committee of the Senate and House of Commons be appointed 
to consider the state of penitentiaries under the control of the Government of 
Canada and the plans of the Government in relation thereto with powers to 
report from time to time its observations and opinions thereon; send for persons, 
papers and records; adjourn from place to place; sit during sittings of the 
House; and print from day to day such papers and evidence as may be ordered 
by the Committee, and that Standing Order 66 be suspended in relation thereto; 

That 15 Members of the House of Commons, to be designated at a later 
date, act on behalf of the House as Members of the said Committee; and 

That a Message be sent to the Senate requesting that House to unite with 
this House for the above purpose, and to select, if the Senate deem advisable, 
some of their Members to act on the proposed joint Committee. — The Minister 
of Justice. 



The House resumed debate on the proposed motion of Mr. Cashin, seconded 
by Mr. Chretien, — That the following Address be presented to His Excellency 
the Governor General of Canada; 

To His Excellency General the Right Honourable Georges-P. Vanier, Com- 
panion of the Distinguished Service Order, upon whom has been conferred the 
Military Cross and the Canadian Forces' Decoration, Governor General and 
Commander-in-Chief of Canada. 

May It Please Your Excellency: 

We, Her Majesty's most loyal and dutiful subjects, the House of Commons 
of Canada, in Parliament assembled, beg leave to offer our humble thanks to 



34 



HOUSE OF COMMONS 



April 12, 1965 



Your Excellency for the gracious Speech which Your Excellency has addressed 
to both Houses of Parliament; 

And debate continuing; 

Mr. Rondeau, seconded by Mr. Latulippe, proposed to move in amendment 
thereto, — That the following be added to the Address: 

"We respectfully regret that Your Excellency's advisors have failed to 
propose legislation to adjust the family allowances according to the rise of the 
index of the cost of living since 1945, and no longer enjoy the confidence of the 
House and the Canadian people." 

RULING BY MR. SPEAKER 

The Chair ruled the proposed amendment out of order on the ground that 
in effect the substance and essence thereof was a question upon which the 
House expressed a judgment on Friday, April 9th last during the course of the 
current debate. 

Whereupon, the honourable Member for Villeneuve (Mr. Caouette) ap- 
pealed to the House from the decision of the Chair. 

And the question being put by Mr. Speaker: "Shall the decision of the 
Chair be sustained?" — It was decided in the affirmative on the following divi- 
sion: 

Yeas 





Messrs: 




Armstrong, 


Flemming (Victoria- 


Lessard (Saint- 


Olson, 


Badanai, 


Carleton), 


Henri), 


Pascoe, 


Balcer, 


Forbes, 


Loney, 


Patterson, 


Basford, 


Francis, 


Macaluso, 


Pennell, 


Batten, 


Gelber, 


Macdonald, 


Pickersgill, 


Benidickson, 


Grafftey, 


MacEachen, 


Pilon, 


Bigg, 


Granger, 


MacEwan, 


Pugh, 


Cadieu, 


Gray, 


Maclnnis, 


Rapp, 


Cadieux, 


Gundlock, 


Mackasey, 


Regan, 


Cardiff, 


Habel, 


MacLean (Queens), 


Rheaume, 


Cardin, 


Hahn, 


MacNaught, 


Richard, 


Carter, 


Haidasz, 


MacRae, 


Rideout (Mrs.), 


Cashin, 


Hamilton, 


Mcllraith, 


Rinfret, 


Chatterton, 


Herridge, 


Mcintosh, 


Robichaud, 


Churchill, 


Horner (Acadia), 


Mandziuk, 


Roxburgh, 


Clancy, 


Horner (The Battle- 


Martineau, 


Simpson, 


Coates, 


fords), 


Matte, 


Southam, 


Cote (Longueuil), 


Jorgenson, 


Morison, 


Starr, 


Cowan, 


Kennedy, 


Muir (Cape Breton 


Stefanson, 


Crossman, 


Kindt, 


North and 


Stewart, 


Crouse, 


Klein, 


Victoria), 


Tardif, 


Danforth, 


Knowles, 


Muir (Lisgar), 


Tucker, 


Deachman, 


Konantz (Mrs.), 


Mullally, 


Walker, 


Douglas, 


Korchinski, 


Nasserden, 


Watson (Assiniboia), 


Dube, 


Lambert, 


Nesbitt, 


Webb, 


Enns, 


Lamontagne, 


Nicholson, 


Webster, 


Fairweather, 


Laverdiere, 


Nielsen, 


Winch, 


Fane, 


Leboe, 


Nixon, 


Winkler, 




Legault, 


Nowlan, 


V/oolliams—llO. 



April 12, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 35 

Nays 

Messrs: 

Brewin, Gregoire, Martin (Timmins), Plourde, 

Caouette, Howard, Mather, Prittie, 

Dionne, Latulippe, Perron, Rondeau, 

Gauthier, Scott — 14. 

And debate continuing on the main motion; 



By unanimous consent, the House reverted to "Motions' 



By unanimous consent, it was ordered, — That the House will continue to 
sit during the dinner hour tonight; and when it convenes tomorrow at 11 o'clock 
it will sit continually until the completion of the Address in Reply tomorrow 
night; and that when the vote is taken on the Address in Reply tomorrow 
night, that will be the conclusion of the proceedings, with the understanding 
that the government will not introduce any other legislation except the two 
items on today's Order Paper, numbers 5 and 6, which merely give legislative 
effect to those items in the supplementary estimates which had to do with the 
civil service pension, the mounted police pension and the extension of the date 
for rebates under a tax act; and, on the adjournment of the House, the govern- 
ment will move that it stand adjourned until Monday, April 26, 1965, at 2.30 
p.m. 



Debate was resumed on the proposed motion of Mr. Cashin, seconded 
by Mr. Chretien, — That the following Address be presented to His Excellency 
the Governor General of Canada; 

To His Excellency General the Right Honourable Georges-P. Vanier, Com- 
panion of the Distinguished Service Order, upon whom has been conferred the 
Military Cross and the Canadian Forces' Decoration, Governor General and 
Commander-in-Chief of Canada. 

May It Please Your Excellency: 

We, Her Majesty's most loyal and dutiful subjects, the House of Commons 
of Canada, in Parliament assembled, beg leave to offer our humble thanks to 
Your Excellency for the gracious Speech which Your Excellency has addressed 
to both Houses of Parliament; 

And debate continuing; 

Mr. Plourde, seconded by Mr. Gauthier, moved in amendment thereto, — 
That the following be added to the Address: 

"We regret that Your Excellency's advisors have failed to propose legisla- 
tion in order to exempt from Income Tax all Canadians married or with depend- 
ents whose income is less than $5,000 a year and all Canadians, single, whose 
income is less than $2,500 a year and the Government no longer enjoys the 
confidence of the House and of the Canadian people." 

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HOUSE OF COMMONS 



April 12, 1965 



And the question being put on the said proposed amendment, it was nega- 
tived on the following division: 

Yeas 





Messrs: 




Beaul4, 


Gregoire, 


Latulippe, 


Plourde, 


Bigg, 


Horner (Acadia), 


Lessard (Lac-Saint- 


Rheaume, 


Boutin, 


Horner (The Battle- 


Jean), 


Rondeau, 


Cadieu, 


fords), 


Mcintosh, 


Simpson, 


Clancy, 


Kindt, 


Millar, 


Southam, 


Dionne, 


Korchinski, 


Muir (Lisgar), 


Starr, 


Enns, 


Langlois, 


Nesbitt, 


Vincent, 


Forbes, 


Laprise, 


Perron, 


Webb, 


Gauthier, 






WoolUams — 32. 




Nays 






Messrs: 




Armstrong, 


Flemming (Victoria- 


Lessard (Saint- 


Olson, 


Badanai, 


Carleton), 


Henri), 


Ormiston, 


Balcer, 


Francis, 


Lloyd, 


Otto, 


Basford, 


Gelber, 


Loiselle, 


Pascoe, 


Batten, 


Gordon, 


Macaluso, 


Patterson, 


Bechard, 


Grafftey, 


Macdonald, 


Pennell, 


Benidickson, 


Granger, 


MacEachen, 


Pepin, 


Benson, 


Gray, 


MacEwan, 


Pickersgill, 


Blouin, 


Greene, 


Mackasey, 


Pilon, 


Brewin, 


Guay, 


MacLean (Queens), 


Prittie, 


Cadieux, 


Gundlock, 


MacNaught, 


Pugh, 


Cardiff, 


Habel, 


MacRae, 


Rapp, 


Cardin, 


Hahn, 


McBain, 


Regan, 


Caron, 


Haidasz, 


Mcllraith, 


Rideout (Mrs.), 


Carter, 


Hellyer, 


McMillan, 


Rinfret, 


Cashin, 


Herridge, 


McNulty, 


Robichaud, 


Chretien, 


Howard, 


McWilliam, 


Rochon, 


Churchill, 


Howe (Hamilton 


Martin (Essex East), 


, Rock, 


Coates, 


South), 


Martin (Timmins), 


Ryan, 


Cote (LongueuiD, 


Howe (Wellington- 


Martineau, 


Scott, 


Cowan, 


Huron), 


Mather, 


Sharp, 


Crossman, 


Jorgenson, 


Matte, 


Stefanson, 


Crouse, 


Kennedy, 


Moreau, 


Stewart, 


Cyr, 


Klein, 


Morison, 


Tardif, 


Danforth, 


Knowles, 


Muir (Cape Breton 


Temple, 


Deachman, 


Konantz (Mrs.), 


North and 


Thomas, 


Dinsdale, 


Lachance, 


Victoria), 


Tucker, 


Douglas, 


Lambert, 


Mullally, 


Walker, 


Dube, 


Lamontagne, 


Nasserden, 


Watson (Assiniboia), 


Emard, 


Laniel, 


Nicholson, 


Webster, 


Ethier, 


Laverdiere, 


Nixon, 


Whelan, 


Fairweather, 


Leboe, 


Nowlan, 


Winch, 


Fane, 


Legault, 


Nugent, 


Winkler— 126. 



Debate was resumed on the proposed motion of Mr. Cashin, seconded 
by Mr. Chretien, — That the following Address be presented to His Excellency 
the Governor General of Canada; 

To His Excellency General the Right Honourable Georges-P. Vanier, Com- 
panion of the Distinguished Service Order, upon whom has been conferred the 
Military Cross and the Canadian Forces' Decoration, Governor General and 
Commander-in-Chief of Canada. 



April 12, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 37 

May It Please Your Excellency: 

We, Her Majesty's most loyal and dutiful subjects, the House of Commons 
of Canada, in Parliament assembled, beg leave to offer our humble thanks to 
Your Excellency for the gracious Speech which Your Excellency has addressed 
to both Houses of Parliament; 

And debate continuing; the said debate was interrupted. 



By unanimous consent, the House resolved itself into Committee of the 
Whole to consider a certain proposed resolution to amend An Act to amend the 
Excise Tax Act. 

(In the Committee) 

The following resolution was adopted: 

Resolved, — That it is expedient to introduce a measure to amend An Act to 
amend the Excise Tax Act, chapter 12 of the Statutes of 1963, to permit a refund 
of or deduction from tax or a payment of an amount equal to tax to be made in 
respect of designated goods described in section 10 of that Act that are sold and 
delivered, or applied to a use resulting in the property in the goods passing, 
after December 31, 1964. 

Resolution to be reported. 



The said resolution was reported and concurred in. 



Mr. Benson for Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Mcllraith, by leave of the 
House, presented Bill C-96, An Act to amend An Act to amend the Excise Tax 
Act, which was read the first time. 

By unanimous consent, the said bill was read the second time, considered 
in Committee of the Whole, reported without amendment, read the third time 
and passed. 



By unanimous consent, the House resolved itself into Committee of the 
Whole to consider a certain proposed resolution to amend certain Acts respect- 
ing the superannuation of persons employed in the Public Service, members of 
the Canadian Forces and members of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. 

(In the Committee) 

The following resolution was adopted: 

Resolved, — That it is expedient to introduce a measure to amend certain 
Acts respecting the superannuation of persons employed in the Public Service, 
members of the Canadian Forces and members of the Royal Canadian Mounted 
Police to give effect to the provisions set out in Finance Votes 18d, 21d and 23d 
of the Supplementary Estimates (D) tabled in the House of Commons on March 
19, 1965. 

Resolution to be reported. 



The said resolution was reported and concurred in. 

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38 HOUSE OF COMMONS April 12, 1965 

Mr. Mcllraith, for Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Sharp, by leave of the 
House, presented Bill C-97, An Act to amend certain Acts respecting the super- 
annuation of persons employed in the Public Service, members of the Canadian 
Forces and members of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, which was read 
the first time. 

By unanimous consent, the said bill was read the second time, considered in 
Committee of the Whole, reported without amendment, read the third time and 
passed. 

(Proceedings on Adjournment Motion) 

At 10.10 o'clock p.m., the question "That this House do now adjourn" was 
deemed to have been proposed pursuant to provisional Standing Order 39-A; 

After debate thereon, the said question was deemed to have been adopted. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following paper having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
was laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

Second Report of the Clerk of Petitions pursuant to Standing Order 70(7) 
as follows: 

The Clerk of Petitions has the honour to report that the petition of the fol- 
lowing, presented on April 9, meets the requirements of Standing Order 70: 

The Muttart Mortgage Corporation, of the City of Toronto, Ontario, for an 
Act changing its name to "Cambrian Mortgage Corporation", and authorizing 
the Company to use, in the transaction of its business, either the name Cam- 
brian Mortgage Corporation and/or "Societe d'Hypotheques Cambrian". — 
Mr. Wahn. 



At 10.33 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow 
at 11.00 o'clock a.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(2). 



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No. 7 



JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 



OTTAWA, TUESDAY, APRIL 13, 1965. 



11.00 o'clock a.m. 

Prayers. 

A petition from *'La Societe Marquette, Inc.", Montreal, P.Q., respectfully 
submitting that the Government of Canada can and must guarantee dependant 
Canadian Citizens certain sums of money as a "Basic Personal Right", was laid 
upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 70(1). 

The House resumed debate on the proposed motion of Mr. Cashin, seconded 
by Mr. Chretien, — That the following Address be presented to His Excellency 
the Governor General of Canada: 

To His Excellency General the Right Honourable Georges-P. Vanier, Com- 
panion of the Distinguished Service Order, upon whom has been conferred the 
Military Cross and the Canadian Forces' Decoration, Governor General and 
Commander-in-Chief of Canada. 

May It Please Your Excellency: 

We, Her Majesty's most loyal and dutiful subjects, the House of Commons 
of Canada, in Parliament assembled, beg leave to offer our humble thanks to 
Your Excellency for the gracious Speech which Your Excellency has addressed 
to both Houses of Parliament. 

And debate continuing; 

By unanimous consent, the said debate was interrupted. 

RULING BY MR. SPEAKER 

The honourable Member for Swift Current-Maple Creek (Mr. Mcintosh) 
raised a question of order concerning the following proposed resolution: 

"That the recommendations contained in the Report of the Prairie Farm 
Assistance Administration Commission of Enquiry, tabled on July 29, 1964, 
including the following two questions: 



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AprU 13, 1965 



1 . Whether the permanent staff of the P.F.A.A. should be brought under 
the Civil Service Commission, and 

2 . Whether there should be other changes in the operation of the P.F.A.A., 

be referred to the Standing Committee on Agriculture and Colonization for 
such recommendations as it deems advisable." 

and contended that the Commission of Enquiry exceeded its legal powers in 
making certain recommendations. 

The Chair ruled that the question as to whether the Commission exceeded 

its legal authority in this regard was a matter of law which was not within the 
competence of the Chair to decide. 

Whereupon, the honourable Member for Swift Current-Maple Creek ap- 
pealed to the House from the decision of the Chair. 

And the question being put by Mr. Speaker: "Shall the decision of the 
Chair be sustained?" — It was decided in the affirmative on the following divi- 
sion: 

Yeas 







Messrs: 




Addison, 


Deachman, 


Leblanc, 


Pepin, 


Armstrong, 


Dionne, 


Leboe, 


Perron, 


Asselin (Notre- 


Douglas, 


Leduc, 


Peters, 


Dame-de-Grace), 


Dube, 


Legault, 


Pickersgill, 


Badanai, 


Ethier, 


Lessard (Lac-Saint- 


Pilon, 


Basford, 


E^.des, 


Jean), 


Plourde, 


Batten, 


Fisher, 


Lessard (Saint- 


Prittie, 


Beaule, 


Forest, 


Henri), 


Prud'homme, 


Bechard, 


Francis, 


Lloyd, 


Regan, 


Beer, 


Gauthier, 


MacEachen, 


Richard, 


Belanger, 


Gelber, 


Mackasey, 


Rideout (Mrs.), 


Benidickson, 


Godin, 


MacNaught, 


Rinfret, 


Blouin, 


Granger, 


Mcllraith, 


Robichaud, 


Boulanger, 


Gray, 


McMillan, 


Rochon, 


Boutin, 


Gregoire, 


McNulty, 


Rock, 


Brewin, 


Guay, 


McWilliam, 


Roxburgh, 


Brown, 


Habel, 


Marcoux, 


Ryan, 


Cadieux, 


Hahn, 


Martin (Essex East) 


, Saltsman, 


Cameron (High 


Haidasz, 


Martin (Timmins), 


Scott, 


Park), 


Hays, 


Mather, 


Stewart, 


Cantin, 


Hellyer, 


Matheson, 


Tardif, 


Cardin, 


Herridge, 


Matte, 


Temple, 


Caron, 


Honey, 


Mitchell, 


Thompson, 


Carter, 


Klein, 


Moreau, 


Tucker, 


Chapdelaine, 


Knowles, 


Mullally, 


Turner, 


Chretien, 


Konantz (Mrs.), 


Munro, 


Wahn, 


Cote (Chicoutimi), 


LaMarsh (Miss) 


, Nicholson, 


Walker, 


Cote (Longueuil), 


Lamontagne, 


Nixon, 


Watson (Chateau- 


Cowan, 


Lamoureux, 


Olson, 


guay-Huntingdon' 


Grossman, 


Langlois, 


Otto, 


Laprairie), 


Cyr, 


Laniel, 


Patterson, 


Whelan, 


Davis, 


Laverdiere, 


Pearson, 


Winch— 122. 



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HOUSE OF COMMONS 



41 



Nays 



Messrs: 



Alkenbrack, 

Bigg, 

Cadieu, 

Chatterton, 

Churchill, 

Crouse, 

Dinsdale, 

Enns, 

Fane, 

Flemming 

(Victoria-Carleton), 
Forbes, 
Gundlock, 
Hales. 



Horner (Acadia), 

Horner (The Battle- 
fords), 

Howe (Wellington- 
Huron), 

Irvine, 

Jones (Mrs.), 

Jorgenson, 

Kennedy, 

Kindt, 

Korchinski, 

Loney, 

MacEwan, 

Maclnnis, 



MacRae, 

Mcintosh, 

Madill, 

Mandziuk, 

Moore, 

Muir (Cape Breton 

North and 

Victoria), 
Muir (Lisgar), 
Nasserden, 
Noble, 
Nugent, 
Ormiston, 
Pascoe, 



Pugh, 

Rapp, 

Rheaume, 

Rynard, 

Simpson, 

Southam, 

Starr, 

Stefanson, 

Stenson, 

Thomas, 

Vincent, 

Watson (Assiniboia) 

Webb, 

Winkler, 

Woolliams— 52. 



Debate was resumed on the proposed motion of Mr. Cashin, seconded 
by Mr. Chretien, — That the following Address be presented to His Excellency 
the Governor General of Canada; 

To His Excellency General the Right Honourable Georges-P. Vanier, Com- 
panion of the Distinguished Service Order, upon whom has been conferred the 
Military Cross and the Canadian Forces' Decoration, Governor General and 
Commander-in-Chief of Canada. 

May It Please Your Excellency: 

We, Her Majesty's most loyal and dutiful subjects, the House of Commons 
of Canada, in Parliament assembled, beg leave to offer our humble thanks to 
Your Excellency for the gracious Speech which Your Excellency has addressed 
to both Houses of Parliament. 

After further debate, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 

On motion of Mr. Pearson, seconded by Mr. Mcllraith, it was ordered, — 
That the said Address be engrossed and presented to His Excellency the Gov- 
ernor General by such Members of this House as are of the Honourable the 
Privy Council. 



On motion of Mr. Pearson, seconded by Mr. Mcllraith, it was resolved, — 
That this House will, at its next sitting, resolve itself into a Committee to con- 
sider of the Supply to be granted to Her Majesty. 



On motion of Mr. Pearson, seconded by Mr. Mcllraith, it was resolved, — 
That this House will, at its next sitting, resolve itself into a Committee to con- 
sider of the Ways and Means for raising the Supply to be granted to Her 
Majesty. 



On motion of Mr. Mcllraith, seconded by Mr. Sharp, it was ordered, — That 
when this House adjourns this day, it shall stand adjourned until Monday, April 
26, 1965. 



42 HOUSE OF COMMONS April 13. 1965 

Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Gordon, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Report of the 
Superintendent of Insurance for Canada, Volume III, Annual Statements — Life 
Insurance Companies and Fraternal Benefit Societies, for the year ended Decem- 
ber 31, 1963, pursuant to section 9 of the Department of Insurance Act, chapter 
70, R.S.C. 1952. (English and French). 

By Mr. Hays, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Report of the East- 
ern Canada Farm Survey, dated May 9, 1963. (French). 

By Mr. Lamontagne, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Return to 
an Order of the House, dated March 10, 1965, for copies of all letters, cor- 
respondence, telegrams and other communications in the Department of Citi- 
zenship and Immigration to or from any person other than between public 
servants dealing with the immigration status of Joe Bonnano. — (Notice of Mo- 
tion for the Production of Papers No. 227). 

By Mr. Lamontagne, — Return to an Order of the House, dated March 3, 
1965, for a list of all monies advanced, contributed, donated or otherwise pro- 
vided to the National Indian Council; and a copy of all correspondence in rela- 
tion thereto; and a copy of the purposes for which such monies were so 
advanced, contributed, donated or otherwise provided; and a copy of all audits 
relating thereto; and a copy of all correspondence and reports from the Na- 
tional Indian Council as to the manner in which, in detail, the said monies were 
expended. — (Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers No. 212). 

By Mr. Pickersgill, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Report of the 
Canadian National Railways Securities Trust for the year ended December 31, 
1964, pursuant to section 17 of the Canadian National Railways Capital Revision 
Act, chapter 311, R.S.C, 1952. (English and French). 

By Mr. Pickersgill, — Report of the Canadian National Railways for the year 
ended December 31, 1964, pursuant to section 40 of the Canadian National Rail- 
ways Act, chapter 29, Statutes of Canada, 1955. (English and French). 

By Mr. Sharp, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Report, and Finan- 
cial Statements of the Export Credits Insurance Corporation certified by the 
Auditor General, for the year ended December 31, 1964, pursuant to sections 
17(3) and 18 of the Export Credits Insurance Act, chapter 105, and sections 
85(3) and 87(3) of the Financial Administration Act, chapter 116, R.S.C, 1952. 
(English and French). 

Third Report of the Clerk of Petitions pursuant to Standing Order 70(7) 
as follows: 

The Clerk of Petitions has the honour to report that the petitions of the fol- 
lowing, presented on April 12, meet the requirements of Standing Order 70: 

The Algoma Central and Hudson Bay Railway Company, of the City of 
Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario, for an Act changing its name to "Algoma Central 
Railway", and for other purposes. — Mr. Nixon. 



April 13, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 43 

Garth Alexander Clefton MacRae, Wilfred Charles Bower, both of the City 
of Winnipeg, Manitoba, and ninety-two other persons from different Provinces 
of Canada, for an Act to incorporate Bank of Western Canada and/or "Banque 
de rOuest Canadien", and for other purposes. — Mrs. Konantz. 



At 8.57 o'clock p.m., the House adjourned until Monday, April 26, 1965, at 
2.30 o'clock p.m., pursuant to Special Order made this day. 



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No. 8 

JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, MONDAY, APRIL 26, 1965. 

2.30 o'clock p.m. 



Prayers. 



Mr. Gordon, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, delivered a Message 
from His Excellency the Governor General, which was read by Mr. Speaker, 
as follows: 

GEORGES-P. VANIER 

The Governor General transmits to the House of Commons Estimates of 
sums required for the service of Canada for the year ending on the 31st March, 
1966, and, in accordance with the provisions of The British North America 
Act, 1867, the Governor General recommends these Estimates to the House of 
Commons. 

Government House, Ottawa. 

On motion of Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Mcllraith, the said Message 
and Main Estimates, 1965-66, were referred to the Committee of Supply. 



Mr. Nicholson, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, for Mr. Drury, 
laid before the House, — Copies of letters dated January 13 and 14, 1965, 
addressed to the Minister of Industry by General Motors of Canada, Limited, 
Chrysler Canada Ltd., and Ford Motor Company of Canada, Limited, with 
respect to the proposed agreement between the Governments of Canada and the 
United States of America concerning trade and production in automotive 
products. (English and French). 



By unanimous consent, it was ordered, — That the Press Release by the 
Secretary of State for External Affairs, dated April 23, 1965, entitled "The 



46 HOUSE OF COMMONS April 26, 1965 

Provinces and Treaty-Making Powers", be printed as an appendix to this day's 
Votes and Proceedings. 



The House resolved itself into Committee of the Whole to consider a certain 
proposed resolution to provide for the retirement of Members of the Senate, and 
progress having been made and reported the Committee obtained leave to con- 
sider it again at the next sitting of the House. 



By unanimous consent, it was ordered, — That proceedings on the Adjourn- 
ment Motion under provisional Standing Order 3 9- A be deferred until the next 
sitting of the House. 



The Order being read for the House to resolve itself into Committee of 
Ways and Means (Budget); 

Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Mcllraith, moved, — That Mr. Speaker do now 
leave the Chair. 

And debate arising thereon, the said debate was, on motion of Mr. Nowlan, 
seconded by Mr. Churchill, adjourned. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Pearson, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Summary of 
Orders in Council passed during the month of February, 1965. (English and 
French). 

By Mr. Drury, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, by command of 
His Excellency the Governor General, — Report of the Department of Defence 
Production for the year ended December 31, 1964, pursuant to section 34 of the 
Defence Production Act, chapter 62, R.S.C., 1952. (Enghsh and French). 

By Mr. Mcllraith, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Copies of 
Statutory Orders and Regulations published in the Canada Gazette, Part II, 
of Wednesday, April 14, 1965, pursuant to section 7 of the Regulations Act, 
chapter 235, R.S.C., 1952. (English and French). 

By Mr. Nicholson, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Return of Per- 
mits issued under the authority of section 8 of the Immigration Act for the 
calendar year 1964, pursuant to section 8(5) of the said Act, chapter 325, 
R.S.C., 1952. (English and French). 

By Mr. Sharp, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Report on the 
Activities of the National Energy Board for the year ended December 31, 1964, 
pursuant to section 91 of the National Energy Board Act, chapter 46, Statutes 
of Canada, 1959. (English and French). 

Fourth Report of the Clerk of Petitions pursuant to Standing Order 70(7) 
as follows: 

The Clerk of Petitions has the honour to report that he has examined the 
petition of "La Societe Marquette, Inc.", of Montreal, Province of Quebec, sub- 



April 26, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 47 

mitting that the Government of Canada can and must guarantee all Canadian 
Citizens sums of money as "Basic Personal Right", and for other purposes, and 
finds that the said petition meets the requirements of Standing Order 70. — 
Mr. Latulippe. 



By unanimous consent, at 9.51 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the 
House until tomorrow at 2.30 o'clock p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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No. 9 

JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, TUESDAY, APRIL 27, 1965. 



2.30 o'clock p.m. 

Prayers. 

The House resumed consideration in Committee of the Whole of a certain 
proposed resolution to provide for the retirement of Members of the Senate. 

{In the Committee) 

The following resolution was adopted: 

Resolved, — That it is expedient to introduce a measure to provide for the 
retirement, upon attaining the age of seventy-five years, of any person appointed 
to the Senate after the coming into force of the said measure; to extend the 
provisions of the Members of Parliament Retiring Allowances Act to such per- 
sons; to provide for the granting of an annuity to any person appointed to the 
Senate before the coming into force of the said measure who resigns his place 
in the Senate after having attained the age of seventy-five years or having 
become afflicted with a permanent infirmity disabling him from the performance 
of his duties; and to provide further for the granting of an annuity to the widow 
of a person who was granted such an annuity upon resigning his place in the 
Senate. 

Resolution to be reported. 



The said resolution was reported and concurred in, on division. 



Mr. Mcllraith, for Mr. Pearson, seconded by Mr. Nicholson, by leave of 
the House, presented Bill C-98, An Act to make provision for the retirement 
of Members of the Senate, which was read the first time, on division, and 
ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House. 



50 HOUSE OF COMMONS April 27, 1965 

The House resolved itself into Committee of the Whole to consider a certain 
proposed resolution to amend the National Housing Act, 1954, and progress hav- 
ing been made and reported the Committee obtained leave to consider it again 
at the next sitting of the House. 



(Proceedings on Adjournment Motion) 

At 10.02 o'clock p.m., the question 'That this House do now adjourn" was 
deemed to have been proposed pursuant to provisional Standing Order 39-A; 

After debate thereon, the said question was deemed to have been adopted. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Favreau, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Report, dated 
March 30, 1965, of the Restrictive Trade Practices Commission, under the Com- 
bines Investigation Act, relating to the Acquisition by the Thompson Newspaper 
Group in 1962 of the Times- Journal Newspaper, published in Fort William, 
Ontario. (English and French). 

By Mr. Lamontagne, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Return to 
an Order of the House, dated February 24, 1965, for a copy of all correspond- 
ence, telegrams and other documents exchanged between the government and 
any agency or branch thereof and any other person, group or organization since 
December 20, 1963 relating to Bill C-130 of the 1st Session of the 26th Parlia- 
ment entitled an Act to provide for the disposition of Indian Claims, except 
those documents tabled pursuant to Notice of Motion No. 59 passed by the House 
on Wednesday, April 1, 1964. — (Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers 
No. 203). 

By Mr. Lamontagne, — Return to an Order of the House, dated February 24, 
1965, for a copy of all opinions of Indian Bands, Band Councils or individual 
Indians about Bill C-130 introduced during the 1963 Session of Parliament sub- 
mitted or forwarded directly or indirectly by each Indian Superintendent or 
other officer of the Indian Affairs Branch to the Indian Affairs Branch, or any 
other department or branch of government in Ottawa. — (Notice of Motion for 
the Production of Papers No. 204). 

By Mr. Sharp, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council. — Report of the 
Canadian Wheat Board for the Crop Year ended July 31, 1964, certified by the 
Auditors, pursuant to section 7(2) of the Canadian Wheat Board Act, chapter 
44, R.S.C., 1952. (English and French). 

By Mr. Sharp,— Order in Council P.C. 1965-695, dated April 15, 1965, 
authorizing under section 21a of the Export Credits Insurance Act, long-term 
financing by the Export Credits Insurance Corporation for the sale by Dominion 
Steel and Coal Corporation, Limited, Sydney, Nova Scotia, of steel rails and 
track accessories to Ferrocarriles Nacionales de Mexico, Mexico City, Mexico, 
pursuant to section 21b of the said Act, chapter 105, R.S.C., 1952, as amended 
1960-61. 



April 27, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 51 

By the Examiner of Petitions for Private Bills, — Second Report, pursuant 
to Standing Order 100(2), as follows: 

The Examiner of Petitions for Private Bills has the honour to report that 
the following petitioners have complied with the requirements of Standing 
Order 96: 

Garth Alexander Clefton MacRae, Wilfred Charles Bower, both of the City 
of Winnipeg, Manitoba, and ninety-two other persons from different Provinces 
of Canada, for an Act to incorporate Bank of Western Canada and/or "Banque 
de rOuest Canadien", and for other purposes. 



At 10.11 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 
2.30 o'clock p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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No. 10 

JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, WEDNESDAY, APRIL 28, 1965. 

2.30 o'clock p.m. 



Prayers. 



The Clerk of the House laid upon the Table the following Private Bill: 
Bill C-99, An Act to incorporate Bank of Western Canada. — Mrs. Konantz. 

The said Bill was deemed to have been read the first time and ordered for 
a second reading at the next sitting of the House, pursuant to Standing Order 
103(1). 



Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Mcllraith, moved, — That the House do go 
into Committee of the Whole at its next sitting to consider the following pro- 
posed resolution which has been recommended to the House by His Excel- 
lency: — 

That it is expedient to introduce a measure to establish an investment 
corporation, to be known as the Canada Development Corporation, to provide 
through savings by Canadians a supplementary large-scale source of financing 
where substantial sums of equity capital are required for the initiation or ex- 
pansion of larger enterprises in Canada and for facilitating, in the case of 
offers to purchase or sell shares of such enterprises, the acquisition of such 
shares by Canadian residents rather than non-residents; to authorize the issue 
by the Corporation to Canadian residents, at an initial issued price of five dollars 
per share, of shares of the Corporation the total number of which outstanding 
at any time shall not exceed two hundred million; to authorize the Government 
of Canada to underwrite the issue of shares of the Corporation, and at its 
discretion to invest in shares of the Corporation on its own account not exceed- 
ing in number ten per cent of the total number of issued and outstanding shares 
of the Corporation, the amount of which underwriting commitment, together 
with the total amount invested by the Government of Canada in shares of the 
Corporation, shall not exceed two hundred and fifty million dollars; to 



54 HOUSE OF COMMONS April 28, 1965 

authorize the Government of Canada to make loans to or purchase debentures 
of the Corporation to an aggregate amount not exceeding one himdred million 
dollars and to sell to the Corporation the holdings of Canada of shares of 
certain Crown corporations; and to provide further for other necessary and 
incidental matters relating to the establishment of the Corporation, its objects 
and powers, and its management, operation and control. 

Resolved, — That the House do go into Committee of the Whole at its next 
sitting to consider the said proposed resolution. 

Pursuant to Standing Order 39(4) the following three Questions were 
made Orders of the House for Returns, namely: 

No. 85 — Mr. Duhe 

1. What are the ships for which Canadian subsidies have been granted since 
the inception of the policy on subsidies? 

2. Who are the owners of these ships? 

3. How many and which of these ships have subsequently been trans- 
ferred to foreign registry? 

Mr. Stewart, Parliamentary Secretary to the Secretary of State, presented, 
— Return to the foregoing Order. 

No. 118 — Mr. Caouette 

1. How many winter works projects were put into effect under the incentive 
program in municipalities in the County of Villeneuve during the years 1962-63, 
1963-64 and 1964-65? 

2. What was the total value of each such project and what was the federal 
government's share? 

Mr. MacEachen, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, presented, — 
Return to the foregoing Order. 

No. 155 — Mr. Laprise 

1. What amount did the federal government spend during the years 1963 
and 1964 (a) for the construction of housing (b) towards repairs of dwellings 
for Indians in (i) East Main (ii) Fort George (iii) Lake Mistassini (iv) Lake 
Simon (v) Lake Waswanipi (vi) Nemascau (vii) Obedjiwan (viii) Pointe- 
Bleue (ix) Rupert House (x) Weymontachie? 

2. What amount did the federal government spend during the years 1963 
and 1964 (a) for Family Allowances (b) Disability Pensions (c) Old Age Pen- 
sions (d) various assistance for needy Indians of (i) Fort George (ii) East 
Main (iii) Lake Mistassini (iv) Lake Simon (v) Lake Waswanipi (vi) Nemas- 
cau (vii) Obedjiwan (viii) Pointe-Bleue (ix) Rupert House (x) Weymon- 
tachie? 

Mr. Stewart, Parliamentary Secretary to the Secretary of State, presented, 
— Return to the foregoing Order. 

Notices of Motions for the Production of Papers Nos. 1, 3, 7, 8, 10, 13 and 
14 were allowed to stand at the request of the government. 

Pursuant to provisional order adopted on April 20, 1964, it was ordered, — 
That there be laid before this House a copy of the printed questionnaire author- 
ized by Professor Meisel, employed by the Royal Commission on Bilingualism 



April 28, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 55 

and Biculturalism, together with a copy of those questions directed to be asked 
orally, by those authorized to conduct a survey of Members of Parliament, in 
this connection. — (Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers No. 4 — Mr. 
Nasser den). 



Mr. Howard, seconded by Mr. Knowles, moved, — That an humble Address 
be presented to His Excellency praying that he will cause to be laid before this 
House a copy of all submissions, presentations, briefs and other documents and 
a copy of any speeches delivered at, or to the recent Dominion-Provincial Con- 
ference on Indian Affairs by each provincial government or any person repre- 
senting a provincial government. — (Notice of Motion for the Production of 
Papers No. 5). 

And the question being proposed; 

The Honourable the Minister of Citizenship and Immigration (Mr. Nichol- 
son), stated that he desired a debate on the said motion. 

Ordered, — That the said motion be transferred by the Clerk to the order 
of "Notices of Motions (Papers)", pursuant to Standing Order 47 as provi- 
sionally amended April 20, 1964. 



Mr. Howard, seconded by Mr. Knowles, moved, — That an Order of the 
House do issue for a copy of all submissions, presentations, briefs and other 
documents, and a copy of any speeches delivered at, or to the recent Dominion- 
Provincial Conference on Indian Affairs by the Canadian Government, or any 
person representing the Canadian Government. — (Notice of Motion for the 
Production of Papers No. 6). 

And the question being proposed; 

The Honourable the Minister of Citizenship and Immigration (Mr. Nichol- 
son) stated that he desired a debate on the said motion. 

Ordered, — That the said motion be transferred by the Clerk to the order of 
"Notices of Motions (Papers)", pursuant to Standing Order 47 as provisionally 
amended April 20, 1964. 



Pursuant to provisional order adopted on April 20, 1964, it was ordered, — 
That there be laid before this House a copy of all representations made by the 
Member from Kenora-Rainy River to the government since 1945 regarding 
the toll-bridge between Canada and the United States at Fort Frances, On- 
tario, including any suggestions that an alternative toll-free route at this gen- 
eral location should be initiated through the co-operation of the governments 
of the United States, Canada, Minnesota and Ontario. — (Notice of Motion for 
the Production of Papers No. 11 — Mr. Fisher). 



On motion of Mr. Howard for Mr. Peters, seconded by Mr. Knowles, it was 
ordered, — That there be laid before this House a copy of all letters, briefs, and 
other documents since the first day of January, 1954, exchanged between the 
National Capital Commission, the Government of Canada, or any other Depart- 
ment, organization, or persons, concerning the moving of the Ottawa Union 
Railway Station from its central down-town location. — (Notice of Motion for 
the Production of Papers No. 12). 



56 HOUSE OF COMMONS April 28, 1965 

The House resumed the adjourned debate on the proposed motion of Mr. 
Gordon, seconded by Mr. Mcllraith, — That Mr. Speaker do now leave the Chair 
for the House to resolve itself into Committee of Ways and Means (Budget). 

And debate continuing; 

Mr. Nowlan, seconded by Mr. Starr, moved in amendment thereto, — 
That all the words after "That" be deleted and the following substituted 
therefor: 

"this House regrets that the government has failed to meet the most press- 
ing economic problems of the country by refusing to abolish the sales tax on 
production machinery, which tax continues to penalize the manufacturing 
industry and business, thereby undermining Canada's competitive position in 
markets at home and abroad; and by not giving adequate relief from taxation 
for the lower income groups and increased assistance to old age pensioners in 
the face of the steadily rising cost of living." 

And debate arising thereon; 

Mr. Cameron (Nanaimo-Cowichan-The Islands), seconded by Mr. Knowles, 
moved in amendment to the said proposed amendment, — 

That the amendment be amended by deleting therefrom all the words 
after the words "lower income groups" and by inserting instead thereof the 
following words: 

"by exempting from income tax all single persons with incomes up to 
$1,500 a year and all married persons with incomes up to $3,000 a year, 
and by failing to raise the old age security pension to $100 a month". 

And debate arising thereon; the said debate was interrupted. 



[At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Private Members* Business was called pursuant to 

Standing Order 15 {3)'] 

(Notices of Motions) 

Items numbered 1, 2, 3, and 4 having been called for the first time were 
allowed to stand at the request of the government. 



Mr. Herridge, seconded by Mr. Knowles, moved, — That, in the opinion of 
this House, the government should consider the advisability of the creation of 
a Water Pollution Control Division, composed of representatives of the ten prov- 
inces, within the framework of the proposed National Resources Council, with 
powers and funds required to institute research programs, collect, collate, and 
analyse water control data, and to co-ordinate the water pollution control 
objectives for the provinces; in addition, to further the study of water pollution 
control problems of a national character. — (Notice of Motion No. 5). 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 

At six o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put until tomorrow at 2.30 o'clock p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



14 ELIZABETH II— A.D. 1965 57 

No. 11 

JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, THURSDAY, APRIL 29, 1965. 

2.30 o'clock p.m. 



Prayers. 



The House resumed debate on the proposed motion of Mr. Gordon, seconded 
by Mr. Mcllraith, — That Mr. Speaker do now leave the Chair for the House to 
resolve itself into Committee of Ways and Means (Budget), and on the pro- 
posed motion of Mr. Nowlan, seconded by Mr. Starr, in amendment thereto, and 
on the proposed motion of Mr. Cameron (Nanaimo-Cowichan-The Islands), 
seconded by Mr. Knowles, in amendment to the said proposed amendment. 

And debate continuing; 



lAt 5.00 o'clock p.m., Private Members' Business was called pursuant to 

Standing Order 15 (2) '\ 

(Private Bills) 

The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-95, An Act to incor- 
porate Laurentide Bank of Canada; 

Mr. Basford, seconded by Mr. Whelan, moved, — That the said bill be now- 
read a second time. 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



Debate was resumed on the proposed motion of Mr. Gordon, seconded by 
Mr. Mcllraith, — That Mr. Speaker do now leave the Chair for the House to 
resolve itself into Committee of Ways and Means (Budget), and on the pro- 



58 



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April 29, 1965 



posed motion of Mr. Nowlan, seconded by Mr. Starr, in amendment thereto, 
and on the proposed motion of Mr. Cameron (Nanaimo-Cowichan-The Islands), 
seconded by Mr. Knowles, in amendment to the said proposed amendment. 

And debate continuing; 

The Chair having recognized the honourable Member for Hull (Mr. Caron) ; 

Mr. Knowles, seconded by Mr. Howard, pursuant to Standing Order 29 
moved, — That the honourable Member for Timmins (Mr. Martin) be now heard. 

And the question being put on the said motion, it was negatived on the 
following division; 

Yeas 







Messrs: 




Barnett, 


Gauthier, 


Leboe, 


Peters, 


Boutin, 


Gregoire, 


Lessard (Lac-Saint- 


Plourde, 


Brewin, 


Herridge, 


Jean), 


Prittie, 


Cameron (NanaimO' 


- Howard, 


Marcoux, 


Rondeau, 


Cowichan-The 


Howe (Hamilton 


L Martin (Timmins), 


Saltsman, 


Islands), 


South), 


Mather, 


Thompson, 


Caouette, 


Knowles, 


Olson, 


Webster, 


Dionne, 


Laprise, 


Patterson, 


Winch— 31. 


Fisher, 


Latulippe, 


Perron, 
Nays 
Messrs: 




Addison, 


Crossman, 


Gundlock, 


Loiselle, 


Aiken, 


Crouse, 


Habel, 


Loney, 


Alkenbrack, 


Cyr, 


Hahn, 


MacEwan, 


Armstrong, 


Danforth, 


Haidasz, 


Maclnnis, 


Asselin (Notre- 


Davis, 


Hales, 


MacLean (Queens), 


Dame-de-Gr^ce), 


Deachman, 


Hamilton, 


MacNaught, 


Asselin (Richmond- 


Deschatelets, 


Harley, 


Macquarrie, 


Wolfe), 


Diefenbaker, 


Hellyer, 


MacRae, 


Badanai, 


Dinsdale, 


Honey, 


McCutcheon, 


Balcer, 


Doucett, 


Horner (Acadia), 


Mcllraith, 


Basford, 


Drouin, 


Horner (The Battle- 


Mcintosh, 


Bechard, 


Emard, 


fords), 


McLean (Charlotte), 


Beer, 


Ethier, 


Howe (Wellington- 


McMillan, 


Berger, 


Eudes, 


Huron), 


McNulty, 


Bigg, 


Fairweather, 


Jewett (Miss), 


McWilliam, 


Blouin, 


Fane, 


Jones (Mrs.), 


Madill, 


Boulanger, 


Fleming (Okanagan- Kelly, 


Matheson, 


Byrne, 


Revelstoke), 


Kennedy, 


Matte, 


Cadieu, 


Flemming (Victoria- Klein, 


Millar, 


Cadieux, 


Carleton), 


Konantz (Mrs.), 


Mitchell, 


Cameron (High 


Forbes, 


Korchinski, 


Moore, 


Park), 


Forest, 


Lachance, 


More, 


Cantin, 


Foy, 


Lambert, 


Moreau, 


Cardiff, 


Gelber, 


Laniel, 


Muir (Cape 


Caron, 


Gendron, 


Laverdiere, 


Breton North 


Carter, 


Godin, 


Leblanc, 


and Victoria), 


Chatterton, 


Gordon, 


Leduc, 


Muir (Lisgar), 


Choquette, 


Grafftey, 


Legault, 


Mullally, 


Chretien, 


Granger, 


Lessard (Saint- 


Nasserden, 


Clancy, 


Groos, 


Henri), 


Noble, 


Cote (LongueuiD, 


Guay, 


Lloyd, 


Ormiston, 



April 29, 1965 


HOUSE 1 


OF COMMO^ 


Otto, 


Richard, 


Simpson, 


Ouellet, 


Rideout (Mrs.), 


Skoreyko, 


Pascoe, 


Rinfret, 


Slogan, 


Paul, 


Robichaud, 


Smallwood, 


Pennell, 


Rochon, 


Southam, 


Pepin, 


Rock, 


Starr, 


Pickersgill, 


Rouleau, 


Stefanson, 


Prud'homme, 


Roxburgh, 


Stenson, 


Pugh, 


Ryan, 


Stewart, 


Rapp, 


Sauve, 


Tardif, 


Regan, 


Sharp, 


Temple, 



59 



Thomas, 

Tucker, 

Vincent, 

Wahn, 

Walker, 

Watson (Assiniboia), 

Webb, 

Willoughby, 

Winkler, 

Woolliams — 157. 



Debate was resumed on the proposed motion of Mr. Gordon, seconded by 
Mr. Mcllraith, — That Mr. Speaker do now leave the Chair for the House to 
resolve itself into Committee of Ways and Means (Budget); 

And on the proposed motion of Mr. Nowlan, seconded by Mr. Starr, in 
amendment thereto, — That all the words after "That" be deleted and the fol- 
lowing substituted therefor: 

"this House regrets that the government has failed to meet the most press- 
ing economic problems of the country by refusing to abolish the sales tax on 
production machinery, which tax continues to penalize the manufacturing 
industry and business, thereby undermining Canada's competitive position in 
markets at home and abroad; and by not giving adequate relief from taxation 
for the lower income groups and increased assistance to old age pensioners in 
the face of the steadily rising cost of living"; 

And on the proposed motion of Mr. Cameron (Nanaimo-Cowichan-The 
Islands), seconded by Mr. Knowles, in amendment to the said proposed amend- 
ment, — That the amendment be amended by deleting therefrom all the words 
after the words "lower income groups" and by inserting instead thereof the 
following words: 

"by exempting from income tax all single persons with incomes up to 
$1,500 a year and all married persons with incomes up to $3,000 a year, 
and by failing to raise the old age security pension to $100 a month". 

And debate continuing; at 9.45 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker interrupted the 
proceedings pursuant to Standing Order 58(4); 

And the question being put on the said proposed amendment to the amend- 
ment, it was negatived on the following division: 

Yeas 



Messrs: 



Aiken, 

Alkenbrack, 

Balcer, 

Barnett, 

Bigg, 

Boutin, 

Brewin, 

Cadieu, 

Cameron (Nanaimo- 
Cowichan-The 
Islands), 

Caouette, 

Cardiff, 

Clancy, 



Crouse, 

Danforth, 

Diefenbaker, 

Dinsdale, 

Dionne, 

Doucett, 

Fane, 

Fisher, 

Fleming <Okanagan- 

Revels^oke), 
Flemming (Victoria- 

Carleton), 
Forbes, 
Gauthier, 



Grafftey, 

Gregoire, 

Gundlock, 

Hales, 

Hamilton, 

Herridge, 

Horner (Acadia), 

Horner (The 
Battlefords), 

Howard, 

Howe (Hamilton 
South), 

Howe (Wellington- 
Huron), 



Jones (Mrs.), 

Jorgenson, 

Kennedy, 

Knowles, 

Korchinski, 

Laprise, 

Latulippe, 

Loney, 

MacEwan, 

Maclnnis, 

MacLean (Queens), 

Macquarrie, 

McBain, 

McCutcheon, 



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60 


HOUSE 


OF COMMONS 


April 29, 1965 


Mcintosh, 


Muir (Lisgar), 


Pugh, 


Stenson, 


MadiU, 


Nasserden, 


Rapp, 


Thomas, 


Martin (Tunniins), 


Noble, 


Rondeau, 


Valade, 


Martineau, 


Nugent, 


Saltsman, 


Vincent, 


Mather, 


Ormiston, 


Simpson, 


Watson (Assiniboia), 


Millar, 


Pascoe, 


Skoreyko, 


Webb, 


Moore, 


Paul, 


Slogan, 


Webster, 


More, 


Perron, 


Smallwood, 


Willoughby, 


Muir (Cape Breton 


Peters, 


Southam, 


Winch, 


North and 


Plourde, 


Starr, 


Winkler— 90. 


Victoria), 


Prittie, 


Stefanson, 
Nays 
Messrs: 




Addison, 


Deschatelets, 


Lachance, 


Pearson, 


Armstrong, 


Drouin, 


Lamoureux, 


Pennell, 


Asselin (Notre- 


Drury, 


Laniel, 


Pepin, 


Dame-de-Grace), 


Emard, 


Laverdiere, 


Pickersgill, 


Asselin (Richmond- 


Ethier, 


Leblanc, 


Prud'homme, 


Wolfe), 


Eudes, 


Leboe, 


Regan, 


Badanai, 


Favreau, 


Leduc, 


Richard, 


Basford, 


Forest, 


Legault, 


Rideout (Mrs.), 


B^chard, 


Foy, 


Lessard (Saint- 


Rinfret, 


Beer, 


Francis, 


Henri), 


Robichaud, 


Benson, 


Gelber, 


Lloyd, 


Rochon, 


Berger, 


Gendron, 


Loiselle, 


Rock, 


Blouin, 


Godin, 


MacNaught, 


Rouleau, 


Boulanger, 


Gordon, 


Mcllraith, 


Roxburgh, 


Byrne, 


Granger, 


McLean (Charlotte), Ryan, 


Cadieux, 


Gray, 


McMillan, 


Sharp, 


Cameron (High 


Groos, 


McNulty, 


Stewart, 


Park), 


Guay, 


McWilliam, 


Tardif, 


Cantin, 


Habel, 


Martin (Essex 


East), Temple, 


Caron, 


Hahn, 


Matheson, 


Thompson, 


Carter, 


Haidasz, 


Matte, 


Tucker, 


Choquette, 


Harley, 


Mitchell, 


Turner, 


Chretien, 


Hellyer, 


Moreau, 


Wahn, 


Cote (Longueuil), 


Honey, 


Morison, 


Walker, 


Crossman, 


Jewett (Miss), 


MullaUy, 


Watson (Chateau- 


Cyr, 


Kelly, 


Olson, 


guay-Huntingdon- 


Davis, 


Klein, 


Otto, 


Laprairie), 


Deachman, 


Konantz (Mrs.), 


Patterson, 


Whelan— 106. 



{Proceedings on Adjournment Motion) 

At 10.10 o'clock p.m., the question "That this House do now adjourn" was 
deemed to have been proposed pursuant to provisional Standing Order 39- A; 

After debate thereon, the said question was deemed to have been adopted. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 



The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Pearson, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Order in Coun- 
cil P.C. 1965-750, dated April 26, 1965, containing a refierence to the Supreme 



April 29, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 61 

Court of Canada of the question of jurisdiction over off-shore mineral rights. 
(English and French). 

By Mr. Gordon, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Report of the 
Superintendent of Insurance for Canada — Co-operative Credit Societies, for the 
year ended December 31, 1963. (English and French). 

By Mr. Gordon, — Report of the Superintendent of Insurance for Canada — 
Small Loans Companies and Money-Lenders licensed under the Small Loans 
Act, for the year ended December 31, 1963. (English and French). 

By Mr. Gordon, — Report of the Superintendent of Insurance for Canada on 
Loan and Trust Companies for the year ended December 31, 1963, pursuant to 
section 9 of the Department of Insurance Act, chapter 70, R.S.C., 1952. (English 
and French). 

By Mr. MacEachen, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Report on 
the Industrial Relations and Disputes Investigation Act for the year ended 
March 31, 1965, pursuant to section 68 of the said Act, chapter 152, R.S.C., 1952. 

By Mr. Pickersgill, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Report of 
The Seaway International Bridge Corporation, Ltd., for the year ended Decem- 
ber 31, 1964, certified by the Auditor General, pursuant to sections 85(3) and 
87(3) of the Financial Administration Act, chapter 116, R.S.C., 1952. 

By Mr. Pickersgill, — Report of The St. Lawrence Seaway Authority, includ- 
ing its Accounts and Financial Statements certified by the Auditor General, for 
the year ended December 31, 1964, pursuant to sections 85(3) and 87(3) of the 
Financial Administration Act, chapter 116, R.S.C., 1952. (English and French). 



At 10.28 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow 
at 11.00 o'clock a.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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No. 12 

JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, FRIDAY, APRIL 30, 1965. 



11.00 o'clock a.m. 



Prayers. 



A petition from the tenants and staff of the Roxborough Apartments, 
Ottawa, concerning the proposed demolition or use of the Roxborough Apart- 
ments and the Union Station, was laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing 
Order 70(1). 

Mr. Pickersgill, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, laid before the 
House, — Copies of telegrams exchanged between the Prime Minister of Canada 
and the Premier of Manitoba concerning the transfer of personnel from the Air 
Canada Maintenance Base at Winnipeg, Manitoba. 

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, — That the said telegrams be printed 
as an appendix to this day's Hansard. 

The House resumed debate on the proposed motion of Mr. Gordon, seconded 
by Mr. Mcllraith, — That Mr. Speaker do now leave the Chair for the House to 
resolve itself into Committee of Ways and Means (Budget). 

And on the proposed motion of Mr. Nowlan, seconded by Mr. Starr, in 
amendment thereto, — 

That all the words after "That" be deleted and the following substituted 
therefor: 

"this House regrets that the government has failed to meet the most press- 
ing economic problems of the country by refusing to abolish the sales tax on 
production machinery, which tax continues to penalize the manufacturing 
industry and business, thereby undermining Canada's competitive position in 
markets at home and abroad; and by not giving adequate relief from taxation 
for the lower income groups and increased assistance to old age pensioners in 
the face of the steadily rising cost of living." 



6:4 HOUSE OF COMMONS April 30, 1965 

And debate continuing; the said debate was interrupted. 

[At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Private Members' Business was called pursuant to 

Standing Order 15(5)] 

(Public Bills) 

Orders Nos. 1 to 3 having been called, were allowed to stand at the request 
of the government. 

The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-5, An Act to amend 
the Transport Act and the Railway Act (B.C. Water Carriers); 

Mr. Barnett, seconded by Mr. Knowles, moved, — That the said bill be now 
read a second time. 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Gordon, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, by command of 
His Excellency the Governor General, — Report of Operations under the Bretton 
Woods Agreements Act (International Monetary Fund, International Bank for 
Reconstruction and Development, and International Finance Corporation) and 
Report of Operations under the International Development Association Act, for 
the year ended December 31, 1964, pursuant to section 7 of the first-mentioned 
Act, chapter 19, R.S.C., 1952, and section 5 of the latter Act, chapter 32, Statutes 
of Canada, 1960. 

By Mr. Gordon, Report on the Operations under Part II of the Export 
Credits Insurance Act, for the year ended March 31, 1965, pursuant to section 27 
of the said Act, chapter 105, R.S.C., 1952. (English and French). 

By Mr. Martin (Essex East), a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — 
Exchange of Messages from the Right Honourable Michael Stewart, M.P., the 
British Co-Chairman to the 1954 Geneva Conference on Indo-China and the 
Secretary of State for External Affairs, dated April 2, 1965. (English and 
French). 

By. Mr. Mcllraith, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Copies of 
Statutory Orders and Regulations published in the Canada Gazette, Part II, 
of Wednesday, April 28, 1965, pursuant to section 7 of the Regulations Act, 
chapter 235, R.S.C., 1952. (English and French). 



At six o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put until Monday at 2.30 o'clock p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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No. 13 

JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, MONDAY, MAY 3, 1965. 

2.30 o'clock p.m. 



Prayers. 



Three petitions for Private Bills were presented in accordance with Stand- 
ing Order 70(1). 



Mr. Caouette, seconded by Mr. Gauthier, by leave of the House, introduced 
Bill C-100, An Act concerning the bilingual names of certain Crown Corpora- 
tions, which was read the first time, and ordered for a second reading at the 
next sitting of the House. 



Mr. Nicholson, seconded by Mr. Mcllraith, moved, — That the House do go 
into Committee of the Whole at its next sitting to consider the following pro- 
posed resolution which has been recommended to the House by His Excel- 
lency: — 

That it is expedient to introduce a measure to provide for the disposition 
of Indian claims and in relation thereto, 

1. To provide for the establishment of an Indian Claims Commission; 

2. To provide for the duties of the Commission, its decisions and awards; 

3. To provide for appeals from the decisions and awards of the Commission 
to an Indian Claims Appeal Court; 

4. To provide assistance to Indian bands in preparing and pursuing 
claims; and 

5. To enact such financial provisions as may be necessary to accomplish 
the purposes of the Act. 

Resolved, — That the House do go into Committee of the Whole at its next 
sitting to consider the said proposed resolution. 



66 HOUSE OF COMMONS May 3, 1965 

The House resumed debate on the proposed motion of Mr. Gordon, seconded 
by Mr. Mcllraith, — That Mr. Speaker do now leave the Chair for the House to 
resolve itself into Committee of Ways and Means (Budget), and on the pro- 
posed motion of Mr. Nowlan, seconded by Mr. Starr, in amendment thereto. 

And debate continuing; 



lAt 5.00 o'clock p.m., Private Members' Business was called pursuant to 

Standing Order 15 (3) '\ 

(Notices of Motions) 

Mr. Bell, seconded by Mr. MacEwan, moved, — That, in the opinion of 
this House, the government should consider the advisability of underwriting 
a Youth Extension Program of the Parliament of Canada to (a) promote and 
nurture an interest among the youth of Canada in the principles of our Consti- 
tution, the political liberties which root and support our social, civic and eco- 
nomic liberties, the self-denying duties of self-government, and in the evolu- 
tionary role of the Monarchy; (b) promote relief in the power of reason as 
applied through public discussion as preferable to silence coerced by law — the 
argument of force in its worst form: and so answer the cry most appealing to 
youth: "Give us more efficiency; get something done; stop this long-drawn-out 
parliamentary debate; act; look at Russia — imitate them; let the arbitary forces 
prevail over the deliberative." (c) provide annual seminars for young Cana- 
dians from shore-to-shore under the supervision of M.P.'s and officers of the 
House of Commons and Senate to gain insight into, and understanding of, the 
workings of government in deliberation and action. — (Notice of Motion No. 1). 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



Debate was resumed on the proposed motion of Mr. Gordon, seconded by 
Mr. Mcllraith, — That Mr. Speaker do now leave the Chair for the House to 
resolve itself into Committee of Ways and Means (Budget), and on the pro- 
posed motion of Mr. Nowlan, seconded by Mr. Starr, in amendment thereto. 

And debate continuing; 

The Chair having recognized the honourable Member for York- Scarbor- 
ough (Mr. Moreau); 

Mr. Peters, seconded by Mr. Howard, pursuant to Standing Order 29, 
moved, — That the honourable Member for Timmins (Mr. Martin) be now 
heard. 

And the question being put on the said motion, it was negatived on the 
following division: 

Yeas 







Messrs: 




Beaul6, 


Knowles, 




Marcoux, 


Prittie, 


Boutin, 


Langlois, 




Martin (Timmins), 


Rondeau, 


Caouette, 


Laprise, 




Mather, 


Saltsman, 


Gauthier, 


Leboe, 




Patterson, 


Webster, 


Gr^goire, 


Lessard (Lac-Saint- 


Peters, 


Winch— 22, 


Howard, 


Jean), 




Plourde, 





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67 



Nays 





Messrs: 




Addison, 


Dinsdale, 


Laing, 


Nowlan, 


Aiken, 


Doucett, 


Lambert, 


O'Keefe, 


Alkenbrack, 


Emard, 


Lamontagne, 


Pascoe, 


Armstrong, 


Enns, 


Laniel, 


Paul, 


Asselin (Notre- 


Ethier, 


Laverdidre, 


Pepin, 


Dame-de-Grace), 


Fairweather, 


Leduc, 


Pilon, 


Badanai, 


Fane, 


Legault, 


Prud'homme, 


Balcer, 


Fleming (Okanagan- 


- Lessard (Saint- 


Pugh, 


Basford, 


Revelstoke), 


Henri), 


Rapp, 


Bechard, 


Flemming (Victoria- 


Loiselle, 


Ricard, 


Bell, 


Carleton), 


Loney, 


Richard, 


Benson, 


Forbes, 


Macaluso, 


Rideout (Mrs.), 


Bigg, 


Foy, 


Macdonald, 


Rinfret, 


Boulanger, 


Godin, 


MacEwan, 


Rochon, 


Brown, 


Gordon, 


Maclnnis, 


Rock, 


Byrne, 


Grafftey, 


Mackasey, 


Rouleau, 


Cadieu, 


Granger, 


MacLean (Queens), 


Ryan, 


Cadienx, 


Gray, 


MacNaught, 


Rynard, 


Cantelon, 


Groos, 


Macquarrie, 


Sauve, 


Cantin, 


Guay, 


MacRae, 


Simpson, 


Cardiff, 


Gundlock, 


Mcllraith, 


Smallwood, 


Cardin, 


Habel, 


Mcintosh, 


Smith, 


Carter, 


Haidasz, 


McMillan, 


Southam, 


Cashin, 


Hales, 


McNulty, 


Starr, 


Choquette, 


Hays, 


McWilliam, 


Stefanson, 


Chretien, 


Horner (The 


Mandziuk, 


Stenson, 


Churchill, 


Battlefords), 


Matheson, 


Stewart, 


Clancy, 


Irvine, 


Matte, 


Tardif, 


Cote (Longuetiil), 


Jewett (Miss), 


Mitchell, 


Temple, 


Cowan, 


Jones (Mrs.), 


Monteith, 


Thomas, 


Crossman, 


Jorgenson, 


Moore, 


Tucker, 


Crouse, 


Kelly, 


Moreau, 


Vincent, 


Cyr, 


Kennedy, 


Muir (Lisgar), 


Walker, 


Danforth, 


Kindt, 


Mullally, 


Watson (Assiniboia), 


Davis, 


Klein, 


Nasserden, 


Webb, 


Deachman, 


Konantz (Mrs.), 


Nesbitt, 


Whelan, 


Deschatelets, 


Korchinski, 


Nixon, 


Willoughby, 


Diefenbaker, 


Lachance, 


Noble, 


Winkler, 
Woolliams — 148. 



Debate was resumed on the proposed motion of Mr. Gordon, seconded by 
Mr. Mcllraith, — That Mr. Speaker do now leave the Chair for the House to 
resolve itself into Committee of Ways and Means (Budget) ; 

And on the proposed motion of Mr. Nowlan, seconded by Mr. Starr, in 
amendment thereto, — That all the words after "That" be deleted and the follow- 
ing substituted therefor: 

"this House regrets that the government has failed to meet the most press- 
ing economic problems of the country by refusing to abolish the sales tax on 
production machinery, which tax continues to penalize the manufacturing 
industry and business, thereby undermining Canada's competitive position in 
markets at home and abroad; and by not giving adequate relief from taxation 
for the lower income groups and increased assistance to old age pensioners in 
the face of the steadily rising cost of living"; 

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And debate continuing; at 9.45 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker interrupted the 
proceedings pursuant to Standing Order 58(5); 

And the question being put on the said proposed amendment, it was nega- 
tived on the following division: 

Yeas *■ 





Messrs: 




Aiken, 


Gundlock, 


BlacLean (Queens), 


Plourde, 


Alkenbrack, 


Hales, 


Macquarrie, 


Prittie, 


Beaule, 


Hamilton, 


McBain, 


Pugh, 


BeU, 


Harkness, 


McCutcheon, 


Rapp, 


Bigg, 


Horner (Acadia), 


Mcintosh, 


Ricard, 


Boutin, 


Horner (Jasper- 


Madill, 


Rondeau, 


Cadieu, 


Edson), 


Mandziuk, 


Rynard, 


Cantelon, 


Horner (The Battle- 


■ Martin (Timmins), 


Saltsman, 


Caouette, 


fords), 


Mather, 


Simpson, 


Cardiff, 


Howard, 


Millar, 


Skoreyko, 


Chatterton, 


Howe (Hamilton 


Monteith, 


Smallwood, 


ChurchiU, 


South), 


Moore, 


Smith, 


Clancy, 


Howe (Wellington- 


More, 


Southam, 


Crouse, 


Huron), 


Muir (Cape Breton 


Starr, 


Danforth, 


Irvine, 


North and- 


Stefanson, 


Diefenbaker, 


Jones (Mrs,), 


Victoria),' 


Stenson, 


Dinsdale, 


Jorgenson, 


Muir (Lisgar), 


Thomas, 


Doucett, 


Kennedy, 


Nasserden, 


Valade, 


Enns, 


Kindt, 


Nesbitt, 


Vincent, 


Fane, 


Knowles, 


Nielsen, 


Watson (Assiniboia) 


Fisher, 


Korchinski, 


Noble, 


Webb, 


Fleming (Okanagan- 


Lambert, 


Nowlan, 


Webster, 


Revelstoke), 


Langlois, 


Nugent, 


Willoughby, 


Forbes, 


Laprise, 


Ormiston, 


Winch, 


Gauthier, 


Loney, 


Pascoe, 


Winkler, 


Grafftey, 


MacEwan, 


Peters, 


Woolliams— 100. 


Gregoire, 


Maclnnis, 


Pigeon, 






Nays 






Messrs: 




Addison, 


Chapdelaine, 


Gray, 


Legault, 


Armstrong, 


Choquette, 


Groos, 


Lessard (Lac-Saint- 


Asselin (Notre- 


Chretien, 


Guay, 


Jean), 


Dame-de-Grace), 


Cote (Longueuil), 


Habel, 


Lessard (Saint- 


Asselin (Richmond- 


■ Caw an. 


Haidasz, 


Henri), 


Wolfe), 


Crossman, 


Hays, 


Lloyd, 


Badanai, 


Cyr, 


Hellyer, 


Loiselle, 


Balcer, 


Davis, 


Honey, 


Macaluso, 


Basford, 


Deachman, 


Jewett (Miss), 


Macdonald, 


Bechard, 


Deschatelets, 


Kelly, 


MacEachen, 


Beer, 


Drury, 


Klein, 


Mackasey, 


Benidickson, 


Emard, 


Konantz (Mrs.), 


McNaught, 


Benson, 


Ethier, 


Lachance, 


Mcllraith, 


Boulanger, 


Eudes, 


Laing, 


McMillan, 


Brown, 


Favreau, 


Lamontagne, 


McNulty, 


Byrne, 


Forest, 


Lamoureux, 


McWilliam, 


Cadieux, 


Foy, . 


Laniel, 


Marcoux, 


Cantin, 


Francis, 


Laverdiere, 


Matheson, 


Cardin, 


Godin, 


Leblanc, 


Matte, 


Carter, 


Gordon, 


Leboe, 


Mitchell, 


Cashin, 


Granger, 


Leduc, 


Moreau, 



May 3, 1965 


HOUSE C 


)F COMM 


Mullally. 


Pennell, 


Rinfret, 


Nicholson, 


Pepin, 


Rochon, 


Nixon, 


Pickersgill, 


Rock, 


O'Keefe, 


Pilon, 


Rouleau. 


Olson, 


Prud'homme, 


Ryan, 


Patterson, 


Regan, 


Sauve, 


Paul, 


Richard, 


Stewart, 


Pearson, 


Rideout (Mrs.), 


Tardif, 



69 



Teillet, 

Temple, 

Thompson, 

Tucker, 

Walker, 

Watson (Chateau- 

guay-Huntingdon- 

Laprairie), 
Whelan— 111. 



(Proceedings on Adjournment Motion) 

At 10.21 o'clock p.m., the question "That this House do now adjourn" was 
deemed to have been proposed pursuant to provisional Standing Order 39-A; 

After debate thereon, the said question was deemed to have been adopted. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 



The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Laing, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Statement con- 
cerning Refunds under The Refunds (Natural Resources) Act, for the period 
February 19, 1964 to April 5, 1965, pursuant to section 3 of the said Act, chapter 
35, Statutes of Canada, 1932. (English and French). 

By Mr. Laing, — List of Apportionments and Adjustments of Seed Grain, 
Fodder for Animals and Other Relief Indebtedness, for the period from Febru- 
ary 19, 1964, to April 5, 1965, pursuant to section 2 of An Act respecting Cer- 
tain Debts due the Crown, chapter 51, Statutes of Canada, 1926-27. (English 
and French). 

By Mr. Nicholson, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Report of the 
Number and Amount of Loans to Indians made under section 69(1) of the 
Indian Act in the year ended March 31, 1965, pursuant to section 69(6) of the 
said Act, chapter 149, R.S.C., 1952. (English and French). 

By Mr. Nicholson, by Command of His Excellency the Governor General, 
— Report of the Department of Citizenship and Immigration, for the year ended 
March 31, 1964, pursuant to section 7 of the Department of Citizenship and 
Immigration Act, chapter 67, R.S.C., 1952. (English and French). 

Fifth Report of the Clerk of Petitions pursuant to Standing Order 70(7) 
as follows: 

The Clerk of Petitions has the honour to report that he has examined the 
petition of the tenants and staff of the Roxborough, of the City of Ottawa, 
Ontario, submitting that the Government of Canada may be pleased to recon- 
sider the plans for the Roxborough's and Union Station's demolition in the 
name of civic progress and capital re-development, and for other purposes, 
and finds that the said petition meets the requirements of Standing Order 70. — 
Mr. Herridge. 

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70 HOUSE OF COMMONS May 3, 1965 

At 10.42 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow 
at 2.30 o'clock p.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, TUESDAY, MAY 4, 1965. 



2.30 o'clock p.m. 
Prayers. 

Mr. Teillet, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, laid before the 
House, — Statement by J. Guy Gauvreau, National Chairman of the Army 
Benevolent Fimd with respect to certain allegations concerning the operation 
of the Fund, dated April 29, 1965. (English and French). 

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, — That the said statement be printed 
as an appendix to this day's Hansard. 

The House resumed debate on the proposed motion of Mr. Gordon, seconded 
by Mr. McUraith, — That Mr. Speaker do now leave the Chair for the House to 
resolve itself into Committee of Ways and Means (Budget). 

And debate continuing; 

By unanimous consent, the hour for Private Members' Business was de- 
ferred. 

Debate was resumed on the proposed motion of Mr. Gordon, seconded by 
Mr. Mcllraith, — That Mr. Speaker do now leave the Chair for the House to 
resolve itself into Committee of Ways and Means (Budget). 

And debate continuing; the said debate was interrupted. 

(Proceedings on Adjournment Motion) 

At ten o'clock p.m., the question "That this House do now adjourn" was 
deemed to have been proposed pursuant to provisional Standing Order 39-A; 

After debate thereon, the said question was deemed to have been adopted. 



72 HOUSE OF COMMONS May 4, 1965 

Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Lamontagne, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Return to 
an Order of the House, dated April 28, 1965, for a copy of the printed ques- 
tionnaire authorized by Professor Meisel, employed by the Royal Commission on 
Bilingualism and Biculturalism, together with a copy of those questions directed 
to be asked orally, by those authorized to conduct a survey of Members of 
Parliament, in this connection. — (Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers 
No. 4). 

By Mr. Nicholson, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Report of 
the Number and Amount of Loans to Immigrants made under section 69(1) of 
the Immigration Act for the year ended March 31, 1965, pursuant to section 
69(6) of the said Act, chapter 325, R.S.C., 1952. (English and French). 

Sixth Report of the Clerk of Petitions pursuant to Standing Order 70(7) 
as follows: 

The Clerk of Petitions has the honour to report that the petitions of the 
following, presented on May 3, meet the requirements of Standing Order 70: 

Great Northern Railway Company, of the City of St. Paul, in the State of 
Minnesota, one of the United States of America, and Great Northern Pacific 
& Burlington Lines, Inc., a company incorporated under the laws of the State 
of Delaware, one of the United States of America, for an Act authorizing Great 
Northern Railway Company to merge and amalgamate its railway and under- 
takings situate in Canada with Northern Pacific Railway Company, Pacific 
Coast R.R. Co. and Great Northern Pacific & Burlington Lines, Inc. pursuant 
to the terms and conditions set forth in a certain agreement entered into 
between the said companies, and for other purposes. — Mr. Wahn. 

Interprovincial Pipe Line Company, of the City of Edmonton, Alberta, for 
an Act to amend its Act of incorporation to authorize the Company to sub- 
divide its shares, and to change their par value, and for other purposes. — 
Mr. Wahn. 

The Pacific Coast Fire Insurance Company for an Act to amend its Act of 
incorporation changing its name to The Century Insurance Company of Can- 
ada and/or "La Compagnie d'Assurance Century du Canada", to increase its 
authorized capital stock from one million to two million dollars, and for other 
purposes. — Mr. Basford. 



At 10.07 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow 
at 2.30 o'clock p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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No. 15 



JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, WEDNESDAY, MAY 5, 1965. 



2.30 o'clock p.m. 
Prayers. 

Pursuant to Standing Order 39(4) the following Question was made an 
Order of the House for a Return, namely: 

No. 179 — Mr. Brewin 

1. Does the Republic of South Africa continue to get the benefit of the 
British Preferential Tariff, as provided by the Customs Tariff Act, R.S.C. c.60 
S.3? 

2. Does Canada get the benefit of any preferential tariff granted by the 
Republic of South Africa? 

3. What is the volume of imports into Canada from the Republic of South 
Africa and the items affected thereby, for the last year for which figures are 
available? 

4. What is the volume of exports from Canada to the Republic of South 
Africa which receives the benefit of a preferential tariff granted by the Republic 
of South Africa and what is the nature of the items so affected? 

5. Has any action been taken by the Governor in Council to withdraw the 
benefit of the British Preferential Tariff from the Republic of South Africa or 
is such withdrawal contemplated by reason of the fact that the Republic of 
South Africa has ceased to be a British country and within the Commonwealth 
of Nations? 

6. What votes have been cast by Canada in the United Nations Security 
Council or General Assembly in respect to any actions or declarations of the 
United Nations or any agency thereof in respect to the maintenance of apartheid 
or other forms of racial discrimination within the Republic of South Africa? 

7. What offices does the Government of Canada maintain in South Africa? 



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8. Are such offices bound by any laws relating to apartheid in the Republic 
of South Africa? 

9. Has the Government of Canada made or caused to be made any studies, 
or has it undertaken or does it propose to undertake any studies or any course 
of action aiming at encouraging change in regard to the apartheid laws of racial 
discrimination within the Republic of South Africa? 

10. Will the Prime Minister of Canada at the forthcoming Commonwealth 
conference make any proposals in respect to the continued enjoyment of the 
Republic of South Africa of preferential tariffs within the Commonwealth? 

11. Is it anticipated that the subject of the attitude of nations of the 
Commonwealth in respect to apartheid in South Africa or the status of South 
West Africa will be discussed at the forthcoming Commonwealth Conference 
and what proposals, if any, will be made by Canada in respect thereto? 

Mr. Stewart, Parliamentary Secretary to the Secretary of State, presented, 
— Return to the foregoing Order. 



Mr. Hales, seconded by Mr. Aiken, moved, — That an humble Address be 
presented to His Excellency praying that he will cause to be laid before this 
House a copy of all letters and other documents since the 1st day of January, 
1964, exchanged between the Government of Canada and the Government of 
the United States in connection with the Agreement providing for duty-free 
trade within the Automobile Industry. — (Notice of Motion for the Production 
of Papers No. 1). 

And the question being proposed; 

The Honourable the Minister of Industry (Mr. Drury) stated that he desired 
a debate on the said motion. 

Objection having been taken to the transferring of the motion, the Chair 
ruled that it was bound by the provisions of Standing Order 47, and accordingly 
the said motion stood transferred for debate. 

Whereupon, the honourable Member for Wellington South (Mr. Hales) 
appealed to the House from the decision of the Chair. 

And the question being put by Mr. Speaker: "Shall the decision of the 
Chair be sustained?" — It was decided in the affirmative on the following divi- 
sion: 

Yeas 









Messrs: 




Addison, 


Blouin, 






Choquette, 


Fisher, 


Armstrong, 


Boulanger 


» 




Chretien, 


Forest, 


Asselin (Notre- 


Brown, 






Cote (Longueuil), 


Foy, 


Dame-de-Grace), 


Byrne, 






Cowan, 


Francis, 


Asselin (Richmond- 


Cadieux, 






Grossman, 


Gelber, 


Wolfe), 


Cameron 


(High 




Cyr, 


Godin, 


Badanai, 


Park), 






Davis, 


Gordon, 


Bamett, 


Cameron 


(Nanaimo- 


- Deachman, 


Granger, 


Basford, 


Cowichan-The 




Douglas, 


Gray, 


Batten, 


Islands) 


> 




Drouin, 


Greene, 


Bechard, 


Cantin, 






Drury, 


Groos, 


Beer, 


Cardin, 






Dube, 


Guay, 


Benidickson, 


Caron, 






Ethier, 


Habel, 


Benson, 


Carter, 






Eudes, 


Haidasz, 


Berger, 


Cashin, 






Favreau, 


Hays, 



May 5, 1965 


HOUSE OI 


r COMMONS 


7J 


Hellyer, 


Lessard (Saint- 


Mullally, 


Rock, 


Herridge, 


Henri), 


Nicholson, 


Rouleau, 


Honey, 


Lloyd, 


Nixon, 


Roxburgh, 


Howard, 


Loiselle, 


O'Keefe, 


Ryan, 


Jewett (Miss), 


Macaluso, 


Olson, 


Saltsman, 


Kelly, 


Macdonald, 


Orlikow, 


Stewart, 


Klein, 


MacEachen, 


Otto, 


Tardif, 


Knowles, 


Mackasey, 


Patterson, 


Teillet, 


Konantz (Mrs.), 


MacNaught, 


Paul, 


Temple, 


Lachance, 


Mcllraith, 


Pearson, 


Thompson, 


Laing, 


McMillan, 


Pennell, 


Tucker, 


Lamontagne, 


McNulty, 


P^pin, 


Turner, 


Lamoureux, 


McWilliam, 


Pickersgill, 


Walker, 


Laniel, 


Marcoux, 


Pilon, 


Watson (Chateau- 


Laverdi^re, 


Mather, 


Prittie, 


guay-Huntingdon- 


Leblanc, 


Matheson, 


Prud'homme, 


Laprairie), 


Leduc, 


Matte, 


Richard, 


Webster, 


Legault, 


Mitchell, 


Rideout (Mrs.), 


Whelan, 


Lessard, (Lac-Saint 


- Moreau, 


Rinfret, 


Winch— 130. 


Jean), 


Morison, 


Rochon, 






Nays 






Messrs: 




Aiken, 


Fleming (Okanagan- 


- Maclnnis, 


Pascoe, 


Baldwin, 


Revelstoke), 


MacLean (Queens), 


Perron, 


Beaule, 


Forbes, 


Macquarrie, 


Pigeon, 


Bell, 


Gauthier, 


McBain, 


Plourde, 


Bigg, 


Grafftey, 


McCutcheon, 


Pugh, 


Boutin, 


Gregoire, 


Mcintosh, 


Rapp, 


Cadieu, 


Gundlock, 


Madill, 


Ricard, 


Cantelon, 


Hales, 


Mandziuk, 


Rondeau, 


Caouette, 


Hamilton, 


Millar, 


Rynard, 


Cardiff, 


Harkness, 


Monteith, 


Simpson, 


Chatterton, 


Horner (Acadia), 


Moore, 


Skoreyko, 


ChurchiU, 


Howe (Wellington- 


Muir (Cape Breton 


Smallwood, 


Clancy, 


Huron), 


North and 


Smith, 


Coates, 


Jones (Mrs.), 


Victoria), 


Southam, 


Crouse, 


Jorgenson, 


Muir (Lisgar), 


Starr, 


Danforth, 


Kennedy, 


Nasserden, 


Stefanson, 


Diefenbaker, 


Langlois, 


Nesbitt, 


Thomas, 


Dinsdale, 


Laprise, 


Noble, 


Wadds (Mrs.), 


Dionne, 


Latulippe, 


Nowlan, 


Watson (Assiniboia), 


Doucett, 


Loney, 


Nugent, 


Webb, 


Enns, 


MacEwan, 


Ormiston, 


Winkler, 


Fane, 






Woolliams — 82. 



Ordered, — That the said motion be transferred by the Clerk to the order 
of "Notices of Motions (Papers)", pursuant to Standing Order 47, as provi- 
sionally amended April 20, 1964. 



Mr. Coates, seconded by Mr. Winkler, moved, — That an Order of the House 
do issue for a copy of the report prepared by the Commissioner of the R.C.M. 
Police which resulted in the forced retirement of Chief Superintendent Belec 
and Sub-Inspector Poitras. — (Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers 
No, 3). 

And the question being proposed; 



76 HOUSE OF COMMONS May 5, 1965 

The honourable Member for Cumberland (Mr. Coates) stated that he 
desired a debate on the said motion. 

Ordered, — That the said motion be transferred by the Clerk to the order of 
"Notices of Motions (Papers)", pursuant to Standing Order 47, as provisionally 
amended April 20, 1964. 



Pursuant to provisional order adopted on April 20, 1964, it was resolved, — 
That an humble Address be presented to His Excellency praying that he will 
cause to be laid before this House a copy of a letter dated on or about Decem- 
ber 30, 1964, from the Minister of Revenue of the Province of Quebec to the 
Minister of Justice concerning the Honourable Member for Saint-Jean-Iberville- 
Napierville. — (Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers No. 7 — Mr. Coates). 



Mr. Rondeau, seconded by Mr. Gregoire, moved, — That an Order of the 
House do issue for a copy of (a) letter of May 19, 1963, from A. G. Heakes to 
the Honourable Lionel Chevrier, Minister of Justice, together with its covering 
letter of May 21, 1963 (b) letter from Miss Marguerite Ritchie, Executive 
Assistant to Honourable Lionel Chevrier of July 16, 1963, acknowledging the 
said letter from A. G. Heakes of May 19, 1963 and its covering letter of May 
21, 1963, to Mr. Chevrier (c) all other letters listed in Miss Ritchie's letter of 
July 16, 1963, to Mr. Heakes (d) complete dossier of court records relating to 
Mr. Heakes' proposal No. 37-1955 SCM as held in Department of Justice and 
in particular (i) original proposal of February 7, 1955 (ii) amended proposal 
of May 31, 1955 (iii) report of the debtor's proposal of September 14, 1955 
with its attached record of creditors' meetings and minutes of said meetings 
(iv) judgment of November 22, 1955 ratifying said proposal (v) petition of 
Trustee Dansereau of June 3, 1958, to cancel proposal (vi) judgment of June 
9, 1958, cancelling proposal; also attached envelope addressed by registered 
mail and returned as evidence that Mr. Heakes had moved from his place of 
business (vii) Trustee's motion for discharge of July 2, 1959 (viii) Trustee's 
petition to cancel unreinstated proposal of August 8, 1963, together with 
its attached exhibits of minutes of creditors' meetings held on March 8, 
1955 and April 15, 1955 (ix) judgment of September 11, 1963, cancelling 
the unreinstated proposal for a second time (x) judgment of September 12, 
1963, discharging Trustee (xi) notice of discharge hearing on September 12, 
1963, if any (e) correspondence covering arrangements for postponement of 
discharge hearing as referred to by the Honourable Davie Fulton in Depart- 
ment of Justice estimates of June 9, 1961 (f) reports by Registrar Gerard Deni- 
ger to Department of Justice re cancellation of proposal including all corre- 
spondence with and/or reports on other contacts with Registrar Deniger (g) 
all correspondence and/or other communications with Trustee J. Alexandre 
Dansereau and/or reports on same (h) report on investigations into cancella- 
tion as recorded in speech by the Honourable Davie Fulton in Department of 
Justice estimates of June 9, 1961 (i) telegram of October 15, 1959, from Mr. 
Heakes to Mr. Favreau requesting protection of papers relating to proposal (j) 
letter of February 4, 1965, to the Honourable Guy Favreau, Minister of Justice, 
together with its enclosure of letter of February 2, 1965, to the Rt. Honourable 



May 5, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 77 

Lester B. Pearson (k) all letters to Mr. A. G. Heakes from officers and Ministers 
of Department of Justice and in particular (i) letter of February 5, 1960 from 
Assistant Deputy Minister Favreau (wrongly dated February 5, 1940) to Mr. 
Heakes (ii) letter of July 16, 1959, from Supt. Larose to Mr. Heakes (iii) letter 
of November 9, 1959, from Miss K. Kierans, Secretary to the Honourable Davie 
Fulton to Mr. Heakes (iv) letter of the Honourable Davie Fulton, referred to 
in said letter of Miss Kierans, to the Honourable George Hees (v) all other let- 
ters from officers of the Department of Justice and Ministers of Justice to Mr. 
Heakes (I) letters of July 14, 1959, and July 15, 1959 to Supt. Larose (m) letters 
and other communications from Mr. Heakes to officers of the Department of 
Justice and the Minister of Justice listed in the said letter of Miss Kierans of 
November 9, 1959. — {Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers No. 8). 

And the question being proposed; 

The Honourable the Minister of Justice (Mr. Favreau) stated that he 
desired a debate on the said motion. 

Ordered, — That the said motion be transferred by the Clerk to the order 
of "Notices of Motions (Papers)", pursuant to Standing Order 47, as provision- 
ally amended April 20, 1964. 



Mr. Orlikow, seconded by Mr. Knowles, moved, — That an Order of the 
House do issue for copies of all the working papers prepared for the Norris 
Commission by the chartered accountants hired by the Commission and de- 
posited by Justice Norris with the Department of Labour. — (Notice of Motion 
for the Production of Papers No. 10). 

And the question being proposed; 

The honourable Member for Winnipeg North (Mr. Orlikow), stated that 
he desired a debate on the said motion. 

Ordered, — That the said motion be transferred by the Clerk to the order 
of "Notices of Motions (Papers)", pursuant to Standing Order 47 as provision- 
ally amended April 20, 1964. 



Notices of Motions for the Production of Papers Nos. 13 and 15 were allowed 
to stand at the request of the government. 



Pursuant to provisional order adopted on April 20, 1964, it was ordered, — 
That there be laid before this House a copy of all the names of those who 
acquired a series of 1965 coins from the Mint in Ottawa between January 1st 
and 10th, 1965. — {Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers No. 14 — Mr. 
Langlois) . 



Pursuant to provisional order adopted on April 20, 1964, it was ordered, — 
That there be laid before this House a copy of all documents, contracts, letters 
and correspondence exchanged between the Centennial Commission of Canada 
and Mr. William Fair or any other person or association in relation to the 
setting-up of a Youth Parliament to commemorate this event. — {Notice of 
Motion for the Production of Papers No. 16 — Mr. Martineau) . 



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On motion of Mr. Martineau, seconded by Mr. Ricard, it was resolved, — 
That an humble Address be presented to His Excellency praying that he 
will cause to be laid before this House a copy of all briefs, agreements, letters 
and other documents exchanged between the Government of Canada and the 
Government of the Republic of France in connection with the agreement 
between France and the Province of Quebec providing for the exchange of 
teachers and other educational material. — (Notice of Motion for the Production 
of Papers No. 17). 

Mr. Stewart, Parliamentary Secretary to the Secretary of State, presented, 
— Return to the foregoing Address. 



Pursuant to provisional order adopted on April 20, 1964, it was ordered, — 
That there be laid before this House a copy of every communication, telegram 
and letter exchanged between the Postmaster General and the Member for 
Levis, Mr. Raynald Guay, relating to door-to-door delivery by mailman, in 
Charny in the County of Levis. — (Notice of Motion for the Production of 
Papers No. 18 — Mr. Langlois). 



Pursuant to provisional order adopted on April 20, 1964, it was ordered, 
— That there be laid before this House a copy of every communication, tele- 
gram and letter exchanged between the Postmaster General or his assistant 
or any one else acting on his behalf, or the head of his Department and Mr. 
Jean-Luc Pepin, Member for Drummond-Arthabaska, relating to home-mail 
delivery by mailman in Arthabaska. — (Notice of Motion for the Production of 
Papers No. 19 — Mr. Langlois). 



The House resumed debate on the proposed motion of Mr. Gordon, seconded 
by Mr. Mcllraith, — That Mr. Speaker do now leave the Chair for the House to 
resolve itself into Committee of Ways and Means (Budget). 

And debate continuing; at 4.45 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker interrupted the 
proceedings pursuant to Standing Order 58(6); 

And the question being put on the said proposed motion, it was agreed to 
on the following division: 

Yeas 





Messrs: 




Addison, 


Boulanger, 


Choquette, 


Fisher, 


Armstrong, 


Brewin, 


Chretien, 


Forest, 


Asselin (Notre- 


Brown, 


Cote (Longueuil), 


Foy, 


Dame-de-Grace), 


Byrne, 


Cowan, 


Francis, 


Asselin (Richmond- 


Cadieux, 


Grossman, 


Gelber, 


Wolfe), 


Cameron (High 


::yr, 


Godin, 


Badanai, 


Park), 


Davis, 


Gordon, 


Bamett, 


Cameron (Nanaimo- 


- Deachman, 


Granger, 


Basford, 


Cowichan-The 


Douglas, 


Gray, 


Batten, 


Islands), 


Drouin, 


Greene, 


Bechard, 


Cantin, 


Drury, 


Groos, 


Beer, 


Cardin, 


Dube, 


Guay, 


Benidickson, 


Caron, 


Emard, 


Habel, 


Benson, 


Carter, 


Ethier, 


Haidasz, 


Berger, 


Cashin, 


Eudes, 


Herridge, 


Blouin, 


Chapdelaine, 


Favreau, 


Honey, 



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Howard, 

Jewett (Miss), 

Kelly, 

Klein, 

Knowles, 

Konantz (Mrs.), 

Lachance, 

Laing, 

Lamontagne, 

Lamoureux, 

Laniel, 

Laverdiere, 

Leblanc, 

Leboe, 

Leduc, 

Legault, 

Lessard, (Lac-Saint- 
Jean), 

Lessard (Saint- 
Henri), 



Lloyd, 

Loiselle, 

Macaluso, 

Macdonald, 

Mackasey, 

MacNaught, 

Mcllraith, 

McMillan, 

McNulty, 

McWilliam, 

Marcoux, 

Mather, 

Matheson, 

Matte, 

Mitchell, 

Moreau, 

Morison, 

Mullally, 

Nicholson, 



Nixon, 


Rouleau, 


O'Keefe, 


Roxburgh, 


Olson, 


Ryan, 


Orlikow, 


Saltsman, 


Otto, 


Stewart, 


Patterson, 


Tardif, 


Paul, 


Teillet, 


Pearson, 


Temple, 


Pennell, 


Thompson, 


Pepin, 


Tucker, 


Pickersgill, 


Turner, 


Pilon, 


Wahn, 


Prittie, 


Walker, 


Prud'homme, 


Watson (Chateau- 


Richard, 


guay-Huntingdon- 


Rideout (Mrs.), 


Laprairie), 


Rinfret, 


Webster, 


Rochon, 


Whelan, 


Rock, 


Winch— 132. 



Nays 





Messrs: 




Aiken, 


Fleming (Okanagan- 


MacEwan, 


Ormiston, 


Alkenbrack, 


Revelstoke), 


Maclnnis, 


Pascoe, 


Beaule, 


Forbes, 


MacLean (Queens), 


Perron, 


Bell, 


Grafftey, 


Macquarrie, 


Pigeon, 


Bigg, 


Gregoire, 


McBain, 


Plourde, 


Boutin, 


Gundlock, 


McCutcheon, 


Pugh, 


Cadieu, 


Hales, 


Mcintosh, 


Rapp, 


Cantelon, 


Hamilton, 


Madill, 


Ricard, 


Caouette, 


Harkness, 


Mandziuk, 


Rondeau, 


Cardiff, 


Horner (Acadia), 


Millar, 


Rynard, 


Chatterton, 


Horner (The Battle 


- Monteith, 


Simpson, 


Churchill, 


fords). 


Moore, 


Skoreyko, 


Clancy, 


Howe (Wellington- 


More, 


Smallwood, 


Coates, 


Huron), 


Muir (Cape Breton 


Southam, 


Crouse, 


Jones (Mrs.), 


North and 


Starr, 


Danforth, 


Jorgenson, 


Victoria), 


Stefanson, 


Diefenbaker, 


Kennedy, 


Muir (Lisgar), 


Thomas, 


Dinsdale, 


Korchinski, 


Nasserden, 


Vincent, 


Dionne, 


Lambert, 


Nesbitt, 


Watson (Assiniboia), 


Doucett, 


Langlois, 


Nielsen, 


Webb, 


Enns, 


Laprise, 


Noble, 


Willoughby, 


Fane, 


Latulippe, 


Nowlan, 


Winkler, 




Loney, 


Nugent, 


Woolliams— 86. 



Accordingly, the House resolved itself into Committee of Ways and Means, 
and progress having been made and reported, the Committee obtained leave to 
sit again at the next sitting of the House. 



IPrivate Members' Business was called pursuant to Standing Order 15(3)] 



(Notices of Motions) 

Item No. 2, standing in the name of Mr. Harley, having been called a second 
time and not having been proceeded with, was dropped pursuant to Standing 
Order 48(1). 



80 HOUSE OF COMMONS May 5, 1965 

Mr. Brewin, seconded by Mr. Knowles, moved, — That, in the opinion of 
this House, the government should consider the advisability of the Minister of 
Justice calling a conference of himself and the Attorneys General of the various 
provinces for the purpose of giving consideration to a scheme to be jointly 
financed and operated by the Government of Canada and the governments of 
the various provinces for the provision of legal aid in all criminal cases in 
which imprisonment is a possible outcome. — {Notice of Motion No. 2). 

And debate arising thereon; 

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, — That the said motion retain its 
precedence on the Order Paper. 



The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Pearson, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Copy of letters, 
during the period November 30, 1964 to April 9, 1965, exchanged between 
the Prime Minister of Canada and the Premiers of the Provinces concerning 
the agenda for a proposed Federal-Provincial Conference. (English and 
French). 

By Mr. Lamontagne, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Return to 
an Order of the House, dated April 28, 1965, for a copy of all letters, briefs, and 
other documents since the first day of January, 1954, exchanged between the 
National Capital Commission, the Government of Canada, or any other Depart- 
ment, organization, or persons, concerning the moving of the Ottawa Union 
Railway Station from its central down- town location. — (Notice of Motion for 
the Production of Papers No. 12). 

By Mr. Pickersgill, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Report to 
Parliament of the Auditor on the Accounts of the Canadian National Railway 
System for the year ended December 31, 1964, pursuant to section 40 of the 
Canadian National Railways Act, chapter 29, Statutes of Canada, 1955. (English 
and French). 

By the Examiner of Petitions for Private Bills, — Third Report pursuant to 
Standing Order 100(2), as follows: 

The Examiner of Petitions for Private Bills has the honour to report that 
the following petitioners have complied with the requirements of Standing 
Order 96: 

Muttart Mortgage Corporation, of the City of Toronto, Ontario, for an 
Act changing its name to "Cambrian Mortgage Corporation", and authorizing 
the Company to use, in the transaction of its business, either the name Cambrian 
Mortgage Corporation and/or "Societe d'Hypotheques Cambrian". ' 

The Algoma Central and Hudson Bay Railway Company, of the City of 
Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario, for an Act changing its name to "Algoma Central 
Railway", and for other purposes. 

Great Northern Railway Company, of the City of St. Paul, in the State of 
Minnesota, one of the United States of America, and Great Northern Pacific 



May 5, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 81 

and Burlington Lines, Inc., a company incorporated under the laws of the 
State of Delaware, one of the United States of America, for an Act authorizing 
Great Northern Railway Company to merge and amalgamate its railway and 
undertakings situate in Canada with Northern Pacific Railway Company, Pacific 
Coast R.R. Co. and Great Northern Pacific & Burlington Lines, Inc. pursuant to 
the terms and conditions set forth in a certain agreement entered into between 
the said companies, and for other purposes. 

Interprovincial Pipe Line Company, of the City of Edmonton, Alberta, for 
an Act to amend its Act of incorporation to authorize the Company to subdivide 
its shares, and to change their par value, and for other purposes. 

The Pacific Coast Fire Insurance Company, of the City of Vancouver, British 
Columbia, for an Act to amend its Act of incorporation changing its name to 
The Century Insurance Company of Canada and/or "La Compagnie d'Assurance 
Century du Canada", to increase its authorized capital stock from one million 
to two million dollars, and for other purposes. 



At 6.02 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put, until tomorrow at 2.30 o'clock p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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OTTAWA, THURSDAY, MAY 6, 1965. 



2.30 o'clock p.m. 

Prayers. 

Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. McUraith, by leave of the House, introduced 
Bill C-101, An Act to amend the Bank of Canada Act, which was read the first 
time and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House. 



The House resolved itself into Committee of the Whole to consider a certain 
proposed resolution to provide for the decennial revision of the Bank Act. 

{In the CoTrnmittee) 

The following resolution was adopted: 

Resolved, — That it is expedient to introduce a measure to provide for the 
decennial revision of the Bank Act and the extension of the charters of the exist- 
ing chartered banks till July 1, 1975, and to provide further for certain changes 
in connection with the administration of the Act. 



Resolution to be reported. 



The said resolution was reported and concurred in, on division. 



Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Benson, by leave of the House, presented 
Bill C-102, An Act respecting Banks and Banking, which was read the first time, 
and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House. 



84 HOUSE OF COMMONS May 6, 1965 

The House resolved itself into Committee of the Whole to consider a certain 
proposed resolution to provide for the decennial revision of the Quebec Savings 
Banks Act. 

(In the Committee) 

The following resolution was adopted: 

Resolved, — That it is expedient to introduce a measure to provide for the 
decennial revision of the Quebec Savings Banks Act and the extension of the 
powers of the existing savings banks till July 1, 1975, and to provide further 
for certain changes in connection with the administration of the Act. 

Resolution to be reported. 



The said resolution was reported and concurred in, on division. 



Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Mcllraith, by leave of the House, presented 
Bill C-103, An Act respecting Savings Banks in the Province of Quebec, which 
was read the first time, on division, and ordered for a second reading at the 
next sitting of the House. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following paper having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
was laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Lamontagne, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Return to 
an Order of the House, dated March 10, 1965, for a copy of all minutes, notes 
or other writings of opinions of Indian Bands, Band Councils or individual 
Indians concerning Bill C-130, introduced during the 1963 session of Parliament 
which were recorded by any Indian Superintendent, or other officer of the 
Indian Affairs Branch and in the possession of the said Superintendent, or other 
officer or in any field office of the said branch. — (Notice of Motion for the Pro- 
duction of Papers No. 200). 



By unanimous consent, at 9.58 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the 
House without question put until tomorrow at 11.00 o'clock a.m. pursuant to 
Standing Order 2(1). 



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OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, FRIDAY, MAY 7, 1965. 



11.00 o'clock a.m. 
Prayers. 

The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-98, An Act to make 
provision for the retirement of Members of the Senate; 

Mr. Mcllraith for Mr. Pearson, seconded by Mr. Laing, moved, — That the 
said bill be now read a second time. 

And debate arising thereon; 

Mr. Prittie, seconded by Mr. Orlikow, proposed to move in amendment 
thereto, — That Bill C-98 be not now read a second time but that it be resolved 
that in the opinion of this House the Senate should be abolished. 

RULING BY MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER 

The Chair ruled the proposed amendment out of order in that it proposed 
to introduce a subject-matter that was foreign to the provisions and purposes 
of the bill under consideration. 

Whereupon, the honourable Member for Burnaby-Richmond (Mr. Prittie) 
appealed to the House from the decision of the Chair. 

And the question being put by Mr. Deputy Speaker: "Shall the decision 
of the Chair be sustained?" — It was decided in the affirmative on the follow- 
ing division: 

Yeas 

Messrs: 

Addison, Beer, Bigg, Cantelon, 

Badanai, Benidickson, Blouin, Cantin, 

Basford, Benson, Byrne, Cardin, 

Batten, Berger, Cadieux, Caron, 



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OF COMMONS 


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Chatterton, 


Habel, 




Martineau, 


Richard, 


Choquette, 


Haidasz, 




Matheson, 


Rinfret, 


ChurchiU, 


Irvine, 




Monteith, 


Rock, 


Clancy, 


Jorgenson, 




Moreau, 


Ryan, 


Coates, 


Konantz (Mrs.), 




Muir (Lisgar), 


Rynard, 


Grouse, 


Lachance, 




Mullally, 


Southam, 


Cyr, 


Laing, 




Munro, 


Stenson, 


Danforth, 


Lamontagne, 




Nicholson, 


Stewart, 


Deachman, 


Leduc, 




Nielsen, 


Tardif, 


Drury, 


Legault, 




Noble, 


Teillet, 


Dube, 


Lessard, (Lac-Saint- 


■ O'Keefe, 


Temple, 


Emard, 


Jean), 




Olson, 


Tucker, 


Fleming 


Macaluso, 




Otto, 


Valade, 


(Okanagan- 


Macdonald, 




Ouellet, 


Vincent, 


Revelstoke), 


MacEachen, 




Patterson, 


Wadds (Mrs.), 


Forbes, 


MacLean (Queens), 


Paul, 


Walker, 


Foy, 


MacNaught, 




Pepin, 


Watson (Chateau- 


Francis, 


Macquarrie, 




Pickersgill, 


guay-Huntingdon - 


Gelber, 


MacRae, 




Pilon, 


Laprairie), 


Gendron, 


Mcllraith, 




Rapp, 


Webb, 


Gordon, 


Madill, 




Regan, 


Willoughby, 


Gray, 


Marcoux, 




Ricard, 


Woolliams — 99. 






Nays 








Messrs: 




Barnett, 


Dionne, 




Latulippe, 


Plourde, 


Boutin, 


Douglas, 




Martin (Timmins), 


Prittie, 


Brewin, 


Gauthier, 




Orlikow, 


Webster, 


Cameron (Nanaimo- 


- Gregoire, 




Perron, 


Winch— 18. 


Cowichan-The 


Knowles, 




Peters, 





Islands), 

And debate continuing on the proposed motion of Mr. Mcllraith for Mr. 
Pearson, seconded by Mr. Laing, — That Bill C-98, An Act to make provision 
for the retirement of Members of the Senate, be now read a second time. 

I At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Private Members' Business was called pursuant to 

Standing Order 15 (3) '\ 

(Public Bills) 

Orders numbered 1 to 7 having been called were allowed to stand at the 
request of the government. 

The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-10, An Act to pro- 
vide for control of the Use of Collateral Bills and Notes in Consumer Credit 
Transactions; 

Mr. Ryan, seconded by Mr. Whelan, moved, — That the said bill be now 
read a second time. 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 



May 7, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 87 

By Mr. Pearson, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Interim Report 
of the Inter-Departmental Committee on the Study of The Economic Unity of 
Canada, dated April 30, 1965. (English and French). 

By Mr. Lamontagne, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Return to 
an Order of the House, dated March 31, 1965 for a copy of the recent Agree- 
ment of Lease between the Post Office Department and Rogers Stores Limited 
at Rimbey, Alberta. — (Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers No. 235). 



At 6.02 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put until Monday at 2.30 o'clock p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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OTTAWA, MONDAY, MAY 10, 1965. 

2.30 o'clock p.m. 



Prayers. 



Pursuant to Standing Order 39(4), the following two Questions were made 
Orders of the House for Returns, namely: 

No. 13— Mr. Pugh 

1. Since January 1963, what are the names, addresses, and dates, of all 
applications for licenses for Community Antenna Television Broadcasting? 

2. Which of these have been granted and what were the dates of granting? 

3. What are the names, addresses, and dates, of all applications for changes 
in already existing licenses? 

4. What changes have been granted in existing licenses, and what are the 
dates of each? 

Mr. Stewart, Parliamentary Secretary to the Secretary of State, presented, — 
Return to the foregoing Order. 

No. 313 — Mr. Thompson 

1. How many votes were counted in each of the areas designated by 
section 5 of "The Canadian Forces Voting Rules"? 

2. How many votes were cast for candidates in each of the 265 con- 
stituencies, by each area? 

3. What were the direct costs of the counting in each of the four areas 
covering the following items (a) payments for services — e.g.. Special Returning 
Officers, Deputy Returning Officers, Scrutineers, Clerical Assistants, etc. (b) 
travel and living expenses (c) rent (d) telephone, telegraph and postage (e) 
any other known direct costs? 

Mr. Stewart, Parliamentary Secretary to the Secretary of State, presented, — 
Return to the foregoing Order. 



90 HOUSE OF COMMONS May 10, 1965 

The Order for the House to resolve itself into Committee of Supply being 
read for the first time pursuant to Standing Order 56(2); 

Mr. Mcllraith, seconded by Mr. Laing, moved, — That Mr. Speaker do now 
leave the Chair. 

And debate arising thereon; 

Mr. Douglas, seconded by Mr. Knowles, moved in amendment thereto, — 
That all the words after the word That" be deleted, and that the following 
words be substituted therefor: 

"this House regrets that when the Government entered into the Canada- 
United States Automotive Agreement it failed to take any steps to safeguard 
the interests of the Canadian consumers, the automobile workers and the small 
parts manufacturers." 

And debate arising thereon; the said debate was interrupted. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Lamontagne, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Return 
to an Address dated March 10, 1965, to His Excellency the Governor General 
for a copy of all correspondence and all documents exchanged between the 
Department of Agriculture on the one hand, and the Quebec Department of 
Agriculture on the other hand, from October 1, 1964, to the present day, in the 
matter of assistance to farmers in the Abitibi, Temiscamingue and Saguenay- 
Lake St. John regions. — (Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers No. 219). 

By Mr. Pickersgill, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, by command 
of His Excellency the Governor General, — Report of the Department of Trans- 
port for the year ended March 31, 1964, pursuant to section 34 of the Department 
of Transport Act, chapter 79, R.S.C., 1952. (English and French). 

By Mr. Robichaud, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Report of 
the Committee on Problems of Mutual Concern Related to the Conservation and 
Management of Salmon Stocks in Southeast Alaska and Northern British Colum- 
bia, dated April, 1965. 



At ten o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put until tomorrow at 2.30 o'clock p.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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OTTAWA, TUESDAY, MAY 11, 1965. 



2.30 o'clock p.m. 
Prayers. 

Mr. Pearson, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, laid before the 
House, — Press Release dated May 8, 1965, concerning the departure from 
Canada of two members of the Embassy of the U.S.S.R. at Ottawa. 

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, — That the said Press Release be 
printed as an appendix to this day's Hansard. 

The House resumed debate on the proposed motion of Mr. Mcllraith, 
seconded by Mr. Laing, — That Mr. Speaker do now leave the Chair for the 
House to resolve itself into Committee of Supply, and on the proposed motion 
of Mr. Douglas, seconded by Mr. Knowles, in amendment thereto. 

And debate continuing; 

By unanimous consent, Mr. MacEachen, a Member of the Queen's Privy 
Council, laid before the House, — Copy of a letter addressed by the Minister 
of Labour to the President and General Manager, General Motors of Canada 
Ltd., dated March 31, 1965. 

Debate was resumed on the proposed motion of Mr. Mcllraith, seconded 
by Mr. Laing, — That Mr. Speaker do now leave the Chair for the House to 
resolve itself into Committee of Supply, and on the proposed motion of Mr. 
Douglas, seconded by Mr. Knowles, in amendment thereto. 

And debate continuing; 

By unanimous consent the House reverted to "Motions". 

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Debate was resumed on the proposed motion of Mr. Mcllraith, seconded by 
Mr. Laing, — That Mr. Speaker do now leave the Chair for the House to resolve 
itself into Committee of Supply; 

And on the proposed motion of Mr. Douglas, seconded by Mr. Knowles, in 
amendment thereto, — That all the words after the word "That" be deleted, and 
that the following words be substituted therefor: 

"this House regrets that when the Government entered into the Canada- 
United States Automotive Agreement it failed to take any steps to safeguard 
the interests of the Canadian consumers, the automobile workers and the small 
parts manufacturers." 

And debate continuing; at 8.15 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker interrupted the 
proceedings pursuant to Standing Order 56(4) (d). 

And the question being put on the said proposed amendment, it was 
negatived on the following division: 

Yeas 



Messrs: 



Aiken, 

Alkenbrack, 

Baldwin, 

Bamett, 

Beaule, 

Belanger, 

BeU, 

Boutin, 

Brewin, 

Cameron (Nanaimo- 

Cowichan-The 

Islands), 
Cantelon, 
Caouette, 
Churchill, 
Clancy, 
Coates, 
Crouse, 
Diefenbaker, 
Dinsdale, 
Dionne, 
Doucett, 
Douglas, 
Enns, 
Fane, 
Fisher, 



Fleming (Okanagan- 
Revelstoke) , 

Flemming (Victoria- 
Carleton), 

Forbes, 

Gauthier, 

Girouard, 

Grafftey, 

Gregoire, 

Hales, 

Hamilton, 

Harkness, 

Howard, 

Howe (Hamilton 
South), 

Howe (Wellington- 
Huron), 

Irvine, 

Jones (Mrs.), 

Jorgenson, 

Kennedy, 

Knowles, 

Korchinski, 

Laprise, 

Latulippe, 

Loney, 



MacEwan, 

Maclnnis, 

MacLean (Queens), 

Macquarrie, 

MacRae, 

McBain, 

McCutcheon, 

Madill, 

Mandziuk, 

Martin (Timmins), 

Mather, 

Millar, 

Monteith, 

Moore, 

Muir (Cape Breton 

North and 

Victoria), 
Muir (Lisgar), 
Nesbitt, 
Nielsen, 
Noble, 
Orlikow, 
Pascoe, 
Peters, 
Pigeon, 
Plourde, 



Prittie, 

Pugh, 

Rapp, 

Rheaume, 

Ricard, 

Rondeau, 

Rynard, 

Simpson, 

Slogan, 

Smith, 

Southam, 

Starr, 

Stefanson, 

Stenson, 

Thomas, 

Valade, 

Vincent, 

Wadds (Mrs.), 

Watson (Assiniboia), 

Webb, 

Webster, 

Willoughby, 

Winch, 

Winkler, 

Woolliams — 95. 



Nays 



Messrs; 



Addison, 


Beer, 




Cantin, 


Davis, 


Asselin (Notre- 


Benidickson, 


Cardin, 


Deachman, 


Dame-de-Grace), 


Benson, 




Caron, 


Deschatelets, 


Asselin (Richmond- 


Berger, 




Cashin, 


Drouin, 


Wolfe), 


Blouin, 




Chapdelaine, 


Drury, 


Badanai, 


Brown, 




Choquette, 


Dube, 


Basford, 


Byrne, 




Chretien, 


Emard, 


Batten, 


Cameron 


(High 


Cote (Longueuil), 


Ethier, 


Bechard, 


Park), 




Cyr. 


Eudes, 



May 11, 


1965 


HOUSE 


OF COMMONS 


j 


Favreau, 




Lachance, 


McNulty, 


Rinfret, 


Forest, 




LaMarsh (Miss), 


McWilliam, 


Robichaud, 


Foy, 




Lamoureux, 


Matte, 


Rochon, 


Francis, 




Laniel, 


Mitchell, 


Rock, 


Gelber, 




Leblanc, 


Moreau, 


Rouleau, 


Godin, 




Leduc, 


Morison, 


Ryan, 


Gordon, 




Legault, 


Mullally, 


Sauve, 


Granger, 




Lessard, (Lac-Saint- Munro, 


Sharp, 


Gray, 




Jean), 


Nicholson, 


Stewart, 


Greene, 




Lessard (Saint- 


O'Keefe, 


Tardif, 


Guay, 




Henri), 


Olson, 


Teillet, 


Habel, 




Lloyd, 


Otto, 


Temple, 


Hahn, 




Loiselle, 


Patterson, 


Thompson, 


Haidasz, 




Macaluso, 


Pennell, 


Tremblay, 


Hays, 




Macdonald, 


Pickersgill, 


Tucker, 


Hellyer, 




MacEachen, 


Pilon, 


Wahn, 


Honey, 




Mackasey, 


Prud'homme, 


Walker, 


Jewett (Miss), 


MacNaught, 


Regan, 


Watson (Chateau- 


Kelly, 




Mcllraith, 


Richard, 


guay-Huntingdon 


Konantz (Mrs.), 


McMillan, 


Rideout (Mrs.), 


Laprairie), 










Whelan— 110. 



93 



And debate continuing on the main motion, at ten o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker 
interrupted the proceedings pursuant to Standing Order 56(4) (f); 

And the question being put on the main motion, — That Mr. Speaker do 
now leave the Chair for the House to resolve itself into Committee of Supply, 
it was agreed to. 

Accordingly, the House resolved itself into Committee of Supply. 

(In the Committee) 

Notwithstanding Standing Order 56(5) (a) the estimates of ten departments 
were first taken up and entered for consideration, as follows: 

AGRICULTURE 



1 Departmental Administration including the Canadian Agri- 
cultural Services Co-ordinating Committee, contri- 
butions to the Commonwealth Agricultural Bureaux 
and a special contribution not exceeding $62,000 to 
the Agricultural Economics Research Council, subject 
to approval by the Treasury Board $ 



4,186,600 00 



DEFENCE PRODUCTION 

1 Departmental Administration including the care, main- 
tenance and custody of standby defence plants, build- 
ings, machine tools and production tooling and grants 
to municipalities in lieu of taxes on Crown-owned 
defence plants operated by private contractors ..$ 16,922,800 00 

EXTERNAL AFFAIRS 



1 Administration, Operation and Maintenance including pay- 
ment of remuneration, subject to the approval of the 
Governor in Council and notwithstanding the Civil 

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Service Act, in connection with the assignment by the 
Canadian Government of Canadians to the staffs of 
the International Organizations detailed in the Esti- 
mates, and authority to make recoverable advances 
in amounts not exceeding in the aggregate the amounts 
of the shares of those Organizations of such expenses, 
and authority, notwithstanding the Civil Service Act, 
for the appointment and fixing of salaries of Commis- 
sioners (International Commissions for Supervision 
and Control in Indo-China), Secretaries and staff by 
the Governor in Council; assistance and repatriation 
of distressed Canadian citizens and persons of Cana- 
dian domicile abroad, including their dependents; 
Canadian participation in the Commonv/ealth Arts 
Festival to be held in Britain in the Fall of 1965; 
payment to the Roosevelt Campobello International 
Park Commission for the purposes and subject to the 
provisions of the Act respecting the Commission estab- 
lished to administer the Roosevelt Campobello Inter- 
national Park; a cultural relations and academic ex- 
change program with the French community, and 
grants as detailed in the Estimates $ 13,176,800 00 

FISHERIES 

1 Departmental Administration including grants and contri- 
butions as detailed in the Estimates $ 1,387,000 00 

INDUSTRY 

1 Departmental Administration, including grants as detailed 

in the Estimates $ 6,007,600 00 

JUSTICE 

1 Administration including the Office of the Superintendent 
of Bankruptcy, grants and contributions as detailed 
in the Estimates, gratuities to the widows or such 
dependents as may be approved by Treasury Board 
of Judges who die while in office and authority to 
make recoverable advances for the administration of 
justice on behalf of the Governments of the North- 
west Territories and the Yukon Territory $ 2,504,300 00 

LABOUR 

I General Administration, including grants as detailed in 
the Estimates; the expenses of the International Labour 
Conferences; the promotion of labour-management co- 
operation; the promotion of a program for the employ- 
ment of the older worker; the promotion of programs 
for combatting seasonal unemployment; the organiza- 
tion and use of workers for farming and related indus- 
tries; and the manpov/er consultative service .. .,$ 4,833,500 00 



May 11, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 95 

NATIONAL DEFENCE 

1 Departmental Administration, including grants to Military 
Associations, Institutes and other organizations as 
detailed in the Estimates and authority, notwithstand- 
ing section 30 of the Financial Administration Act, 
and subject to allotment by the Treasury Board, for 
total commitments of $2,560,546,715 for the purposes 
of Votes 1, 5, 15, 20, 25, 30, 35, 40 and 45 of this 
Department regardless of the year in which such 
commitments will come in course of payment (of 
which it is estimated that $1,044,262,000 will come due 
for payment in future years) and authority to make 
recoverable advances under any of the said Votes 
and, notwithstanding the Financial Administration 
Act, to spend revenue received during the year in 
respect of assistance rendered to the United Nations, 
any party of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization 
or any provincial or municipal government $ 5,204,855 00 

TRADE AND COMMERCE 

1 Departmental Administration including fees for member- 
ship in the International Organizations listed in the 
Details of the Estimates $ 5,664,700 00 

VETERANS AFFAIRS 

1 Departmental Administration $ 6,694,000 00 

To be reported. 



Report received and the Committee of Supply obtained leave to sit again 
at the next sitting of the House. 



(Proceedings on Adjournment Motion) 

At 10.06 o'clock p.m., the question being proposed "That this House do 
now adjourn"; 

After debate thereon, the said question was deemed to have been adopted. 



At 10.20 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 
2.30 o'clock p.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



14 ELIZABETH II— A.D. 1965 97 

No. 20 

JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, WEDNESDAY, MAY 12, 1965. 



2.30 o'clock p.m. 

Prayers. 

The following Notice of Motion having been called was transferred to 
Government Orders for consideration at the next sitting of the House pur- 
suant to Standing Order 21(2'): 

That this House recognizes the need for improving its procedures to pro- 
vide full opportunity for the critical examination of proposed legislation and to 
ensure the effective dispatch of public business; 

That this House agrees upon the need for allocating the time for the 
business of the House; and 

That, in order to secure improved examination of the details of legislation 
and of public spending, while maintaining the full authority of the House, this 
House agrees upon the value of making increased use of Standing Committees; 

That this House accordingly orders: 

1. That detailed examination of estimates, saving always the right 
of the Committee of Supply, be undertaken by Standing Committees 
and that not more than 36 days of the time of the House be allocated 
to the business of supply in each session. For the purpose of this order, 
the business of supply shall consist of proceedings on motions "That 
Mr. Speaker do now leave the Chair"; supplementary or additional 
estimates for the financial year; interim supply; and main estimates 
whether for the coming or the current financial year. That a Special 
Committee of the House, consisting of twenty-two members, to be 
designated later by the House, be instructed to prepare and to submit 
to the House forthwith the changes in Standing Orders consequential 
upon this order, including any means of giving to the opposition an 
opportunity to select the departmental estimates to be discussed. 



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2. That the Standing Orders be amended by adding thereto a new 
Standing Order 15- A, to read as follows: 

Standing Order 15- A 

15- A. (1) There shall be a Business Committee to which the leader 
of each party in the House from time to time by written notice to the 
Speaker may appoint one member. 

(2) During routine proceedings a Minister of the Crown may 
request that the question of allocation of time for consideration of any 
item of business or stage thereof be referred to the Business Committee 
for consideration and report, and upon such request being made such 
question shall stand referred to the committee. 

(3) The Business Committee shall report back to the House on or 
before the third sitting day following such request. 

(4) If the Chairman of the Business Committee reports that the 
Committee has unanimously recommended an allocation of time for 
the item of business or stage thereof, a Minister of the Crown may 
without notice propose a motion, to be decided without debate or amend- 
ment, for concurrence in the report, and, if agreed to, the motion shall 
have the same effect as if it were an order of the House. 

(5) If the Chairman of the Business Committee reports that the 
committee has been unable to reach a unanimous agreement or if the 
committee fails to report within the time specified by Section (3) of this 
Standing Order, a Minister of the Crown may give notice that at the 
next sitting of the House he will move that an order be made allocating 
the time for the item of business or stage thereof. 

(6) A motion of which a Minister has given notice under Section 
(5) of this Standing Order shall be made during routine proceedings. 
Unless the debate on the motion has been previously concluded, Mr. 
Speaker shall at fifteen minutes before the expiry of the time provided 
for Government business in such sitting, interrupt the proceedings and 
forthwith put every question necessary to dispose of the main motion. 
A motion requesting allocation of time, if agreed to, shall have the 
same effect as if it were an order of the House. — The Prime Minister. 



Mr. Pearson, seconded by Mr. Mcllraith, moved, — That the House do go 
into Committee of the Whole at its next sitting to consider the following 
proposed resolution: 

That the following amendments be made to Standing Orders: 

1. That Standing Order 6 be deleted and the following substituted therefor: 

Standing Order 6 

6. (1) At 6:00 o'clock p.m. on Wednesdays and Fridays and at 
10:00 o'clock p.m. on Mondays, Tuesdays and Thursdays, unless pro- 
vided otherwise in these Standing Orders, Mr. Speaker shall adjourn 
the House without question put until the next sitting day. 

(2) A motion that the House continue to sit after the hour specified 
in Section (1) may be made at any time without notice. If any member 



May 12, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 99 

objects to the motion, Mr. Speaker shall request those members who 
object to rise in their places and if ten or more members then rise, the 
question shall not be put on the motion. If no member objects or if 
fewer than ten members rise in their places, the motion shall be deemed 
to be carried. No debate or formal vote shall be held on such a motion 
to extend a sitting. An extended sitting under the provisions of this 
Section, unless a closing time has been specified, shall not be terminated 
except by the adoption of a motion to adjourn and Mr. Speaker shall 
not deem that a motion to adjourn the House has been made by virtue 
of the operation of any other Standing Order. 

(3) If any member objects to the taking of a vote at any time be- 
tween 1:00 o'clock p.m. and 2:30 o'clock p.m. or between 6:00 o'clock 
p.m. and 8:00 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker shall request those members 
who object to rise in their places and if five or more members rise, the 
taking of the vote shall be postponed until after 2:30 o'clock p.m. or 
until after 8:00 o'clock p.m. as the case may be. 

(4) When it is provided in any Standing Order or in any order 
of the House that the business under consideration at the ordinary time 
of adjournment be forthwith disposed of or concluded, Mr. Speaker 
shall not adjourn the House until the specified proceedings be completed. 

2. That Section (1) of Standing Order 12 be amended to read as follows: 
Standing Order 12, Section (1) 

12. (1) Mr. Speaker shall preserve order and decorum, and shall 
decide questions of order. In explaining a point of order or practice, he 
shall state the standing order or authority applicable to the case. No 
debate shall be permitted on any such decision, nor shall any such 
decision be subject to an appeal to the House. 

3. That Sections (3) and (4) of Standing Order 15 be amended to read as 
follows: 

Standing Order 15, Sections (3) and (4) 

15. (3) Except as otherwise provided in these Standing Orders, the 
order of business for the consideration of the House, day-by-day, after 
the daily routine shall be as follows: 

(Monday) 

Questions. 

Government orders. 

(From six to seven o'clock p.m. — Private Members' Business) 

Notices of Motions. 

(Tuesday) 

Government orders. 

Questions. 

(From six to seven o'clock p.m. — Private Members' Business) 

Private bills. 

Public bills. 

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(Wednesday) 

Questions. 

Notices of motions for the production of papers. 

Government orders, 

(From five to six o'clock p.m. — Private Members' Business) 

Notices of motions. 

Public bills. 

(Thursday) 

Government orders. 

Questions. 

(From six to seven o'clock p.m. — Private Members' Business) 

A. On the first and each alternate Thursday thereafter: 
Notices of motions (papers). 

Private bills. 
Public bills. 

B. On the second and each alternate Thursday thereafter: 
Private bills. 

Notices of motions (papers). 
Public bills. 

(Friday) 

Government orders. 

Questions. 

(From five to six o'clock p.m. — Private Members' Business) 

Public bills. 

Private bills. 

(4) When a debate on a motion "That Mr. Speaker do now leave 
the Chair" for the House to go into Commitee of Supply is in progress 
at 6:00 o'clock p.m. on either a Monday or a Tuesday, the order for 
Private Members' Business on that day shall be suspended. 

4. That Section (2) of Standing Order 31 be amended to read as follows: 
Standing Order 31, Section (2) 

31. (2) When the business of Private Members is being considered, 
no member shall speak for more than twenty minutes at a time. 

5. That Section (5) of Standing Order 39 be enacted to read as follows: 
Standing Order 39, Section (5) 

39. (5) Before the Orders of the Day are proceeded with, questions 
on matters of urgency may be addressed orally to Ministers of the 
Crown, provided however that if in the opinion of Mr. Speaker a ques- 
tion is not urgent, he may direct that it be placed on the Order Paper, 
provided also that the time allowed for a question period prior to the 
calling of the Orders of the Day shall not exceed thirty minutes. 

A member who is not satisfied with the answer given to a question 
asked on any day at this stage, or a member who has been told by Mr. 
Speaker that his question is not urgent, may give notice that he intends 



May 12, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 101 

to raise the subject-matter of his question on the adjournment of the 
House. The notice referred to herein, whether or not it is given orally 
during the question period before the Orders of the Day, must be given 
in writing to Mr. Speaker not later than 5: 00 o'clock p.m. the same day. 

6. That the Standing Orders be amended by adding thereto a new Standing 
Order 41-A, to read as follows: 

Standing Order 41-A 

41-A. Unless notice of motion has been given under Standing Order 
41, any member proposing to raise a question of privilege other than one 
arising out of proceedings in the Chamber during the course of a sit- 
ting shall give to the Speaker a written statement of the question at least 
one hour prior to raising the question in the House. 

7. That Standing Order 43 be amended by adding thereto a new Section 
(2), to read as follows: 

Standing Order 43, Section (2) 

43. (2) When debate on any motion made under Standing Order 
15 (2) is adjourned or interrupted, the order for resumption of the 
same shall be transferred to and considered under Government Orders. 

8. That Standing Order 44 be amended to read as follows: 
Standing Order 44 

44. When a question is under debate no motion is received unless 
to amend it; to postpone it to a day certain; for the previous question; 
for reading the orders of the day; for proceeding to another order; to 
adjourn the debate; to extend the sitting of the House; or for the adjourn- 
ment of the House. 

9. That Section (4) of Standing Order 59 be amended to read as follows: 
Standing Order 59, Section (4) 

59. (4) The Chairman shall maintain order in the Committees of 
the Whole House, deciding all questions of order subject to an appeal 
to Mr. Speaker; but disorder in a committee can only be censured by 
the House, on receiving a report thereof. No debate shall be permitted 
on any decision. 

10. That Standing Order 65 be amended to read as follows: 

Standing Order 65 

65. (1) At the commencement of each session, a special committee, 
consisting of seven members, shall be appointed, whose duty it shall 
be to prepare and report, with all convenient speed, lists of members 
to compose the following standing committees of the House: 

(a) on Agriculture, Forestry, and Rural Development, to consist of 45 
members; 

(b) on Broadcasting, Films and Assistance to the Arts, to consist of 
22 members; 

(c) on Crown Corporations, to consist of 22 members; 

(d) on External Affairs, to consist of 22 members; 

(e) on Finance, Trade and Economic Affairs, to consist of 22 members; 

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(f) on Fisheries, to consist of 22 members; 

(gf) on Health and Welfare, to consist of 22 members; 

(h) on Housing, Urban Development and Public Works, to consist of 
22 members; 

(i) on Human Rights and Citizenship and Immigration, to consist of 
22 members; 

(j) on Industry, Research and Energy Development, to consist of 22 
members; 

(k) on Justice and Legal Affairs, to consist of 22 members; 

(I) on Labour and Employment, to consist of 22 members; 

(m) on Miscellaneous Estimates, to consist of 22 members; 

(n) on Miscellaneous Private Bills, to consist of 22 members; 

(o) on National Defence, to consist of 22 members; 

(p) on Northern Affairs and National Resources, to consist of 22 members; 

(q) on Privileges and Elections, to consist of 22 members; 

(r) on Public Accounts, to consist of 24 members; 

(s) on Standing Orders, to consist of 22 members; 

(t) on Transport and Communications, to consist of 22 members; and 

(u) on Veterans Affairs, to consist of 22 members. 

(2) The Special Committee shall also prepare and report with all 
convenient speed, lists of members to compose the following standing 
committees: 

on Printing, to act as members on the part of this House on the 
Joint Committee of both Houses on the subject of the printing of 
Parliament, to consist of 23 members; 

on the Library of Parliament, so far as the interests of this House 
are concerned, and to act as members of the Joint Committee of 
both Houses, to consist of 21 members; 

provided that a sufficient number of members of joint committees 
shall be appointed so as to keep the same proportion in such com- 
mittees as between the memberships of the House of Commons and 
Senate. 

(3) A majority of the members of a standing committee shall con- 
stitute a quorum unless the House otherwise orders; 

Provided that, in the case of a joint committee, the number of mem- 
bers constituting a quorum shall be such as the House of Commons 
acting in consultation with the Senate may determine. 

(4) The Standing Committees shall be severally empowered to 
examine and enquire into all such matters and things as may be referred 
to them by the House; to report from time to time their observations 
and opinions thereon; to send for persons, papers and records; and to 
print, from day-to-day, such papers and evidence as may be ordered by 
them, and Standing Order 66 shall not apply in relation thereto. 

(5) Any member of the House of Commons who is not a member 
of a standing committee, may, unless the House or the standing com- 



May 12, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 103 

mittee otherwise orders, take part in the deliberations of the standing 
committee, but shall not vote or move any motion or any amendment or 
be counted in the quorum. 

11. That Standing Order 99 be amended to read as follows: 
Standing Order 99 

99. No Bill for the incorporation of a railway or canal company, or 
for authorizing the construction of branch lines or extensions of existing 
lines of railways or of canals, or for changing the route of the railway 
or of the canal of any company already incorporated, shall be con- 
sidered by the Committee on Transport and Communications, until there 
has been filed with the committee, at least one week before the con- 
sideration of the bill, a map or plan drawn upon a scale of not less than 
half an inch to the mile, showing also the lines of existing or authorized 
works of a similar character within, or in any way affecting the district, 
or any part thereof, which the proposed work is intended to serve; and 
such map or plan shall be signed by the engineer or other person making 
the same. 

12. That Standing Order 105 be amended to read as follows: 
Standing Order 105 

105. Every private bill, when read a second time, is referred to 
one of the standing committees as follows: bills relating to banks, 
insurance, trade and commerce and to trust and loan companies, to the 
Committee on Finance, Trade and Economic Affairs; bills relating to 
railways, canals, telegraphs, canal and railway bridges, to the Commit- 
tee on Transport and Communications; the bills not coming under these 
classes, to the Committee on Miscellaneous Private Bills, and all petitions 
for or against the bills are considered as referred to such committee. 

Resolved, — That the House do go into Committee of the Whole at its next 
sitting to consider the said proposed resolution. 



Pursuant to Standing Order 39(4) the following Question was made an 
Order of the House for a Return, namely: 

No. 189 — Mr. Basford 
In each year since 1950, what has been the total monies paid to residents of 
the Province of British Columbia under the (a) Old Age Pensions Act (5) Old 
Age Assistance Act (c) War Veterans Pensions Act (d) War Veterans Allow- 
ance Act (e) Family Allowances Act (f) Blind Persons Act (g) Disabled Per- 
sons Act? 

Mr. Stewart, Parliamentary Secretary to the Secretary of State, presented, — 
Return to the foregoing Order. 



On motion of Mr. Brewin, seconded by Mr. Knowles, it was resolved, — That 
an humble Address be presented to His Excellency praying that he will cause 
to be laid before this House a copy of all correspondence exchanged during 



104 HOUSE OF COMMONS May 12, 1965 

the past year between the Minister of Justice and the Attorneys-General or 
other provincial ministers regarding methods of amending the Constitution of 
Canada. — (Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers No. 13). 



Notices of Motions for the Production of Papers Nos. 15, and 22 were allowed 
to stand at the request of the government. 



Pursuant to provisional order adopted on April 20, 1964, it was ordered, — 
That there be laid before this House a copy of all correspondence exchanged 
between the Canadian National Pensions Association and the Prime Minister 
since May 1, 1963 regarding increased pension benefits for retired C.N.R. 
employees. — (Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers No. 21 — Mr. Bigg). 



Pursuant to provisional order adopted on April 20, 1964, it was ordered, — 
That there be laid before this House copies of orders issued by the Minister 
of National Revenue since December 23, 1963, under the provisions of section 
38 of the Customs Act for the purposes of fixing duties. — (Notice of Motion 
for the Production of Papers No. 23 — Mr. Moreau). 



Pursuant to provisional order adopted on April 20, 1964, it was ordered, — 
That there be laid before this House a copy of all correspondence and/or 
messages since January, 1964, between any association of superannuated Civil 
Servants or other individuals and the Prime Minister or any member of the 
government asking for an increase in the superannuation allowance. — (Notice 
of Motion for the Production of Papers No. 24 — Mr. Coates) . 



Pursuant to provisional order adopted on April 20, 1964, it was ordered, — 
That there be laid before this House a copy of all correspondence between the 
Canadian Metalmining Association and the Government of Canada and the 
United Steelworkers of America and the Government of Canada regarding 
proposals to permit immigration into Canada of miners and skilled tradesmen. — 
(Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers No. 25 — Mr. Orlikow). 



The House resumed debate on the proposed motion of Mr. Mcllraith for 
Mr. Pearson, seconded by Mr. Laing, — That Bill C-98, An Act to make provision 
for the retirement of members of the Senate, be now read a second time. 

And debate continuing; the said debate was interrupted. 



[At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Private Members' Business was called pursuant to 

Standing Order 15(3)1 

(Notices of Motions) 

The House resumed debate on the proposed motion of Mr. Brewin, seconded 
by Mr. Knowles, — That, in the opinion of this House, the government should 
consider the advisability of the Minister of Justice calling a conference of himself 
and the Attorneys General of the various provinces for the purpose of giving 



May 12, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 105 

consideration to a scheme to be jointly financed and operated by the Government 
of Canada and the governments of the various provinces for the provision of 
legal aid in all criminal cases in which imprisonment is a possible outcome. — 
(Notice of Motion No. 3). 

And debate continuing; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



At six o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put until tomorrow at 2.30 o'clock p.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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No. 21 

JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, THURSDAY, MAY 13, 1965. 



2.30 o'clock p.m. 
Prayers. 

Three petitions for Private Bills were presented in accordance with Stand- 
ing Order 70(1). 

The House resumed consideration in Committee of the Whole of a certain 
proposed resolution to amend the National Housing Act, 1954. 

And the House continuing in Committee; 

At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker took the Chair. 

[Private Members' Business was called pursuant to Standing Order 15 (S)"] 

(Private Bills) 

The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-99, An Act to 
incorporate Bank of Western Canada; 

Mrs. Konantz, seconded by Mr. Ryan, moved, — That the said bill be now 
read a second time. 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



The House resumed consideration in Committee of the Whole of a certain 
proposed resolution to amend the National Housing Act, 1954. 



108 HOUSE OF COMMONS May 13, 1965 

(In the Committee) 

The following resolution was adopted: 

Resolved, — That it is expedient to introduce a measure to amend the 
National Housing Act, 1954, to increase — 

(a) from two and one-half bilhon dollars to three and one-quarter bil- 
lion dollars the amount the Minister of Finance may advance to Central Mort- 
gage and Housing Corporation for the purpose of making direct loans to 
borrowers to assist in the construction of houses and housing projects; 

(b) from one hundred million dollars to three hundred million dollars 
the amount the Minister of Finance may advance or pay to the Corporation to 
make loans and grants relating to urban renewal schemes and to meet obliga- 
tions incurred under urban redevelopment agreements; 

(c) from fifty million dollars to one hundred and fifty million dollars the 
amount in the special account established in the Consolidated Revenue Fund out 
of which advances may be made towards public housing projects developed 
jointly by the Corporation and a province or any agency thereof; 

(d) from one hundred and fifty million dollars to two hundred million 
dollars the maximum amount the Minister may advance to the Corporation 
for the purpose of making loans for university housing projects; and 

(e) from six billion dollars to eight and one-half billion dollars the maxi- 
mum amount of all loans in respect of which insurance policies may be issued 
under the Act. 

Resolution to be reported. 



The said resolution was reported and concurred in. 



Mr. Nicholson, seconded by Mr. Gordon, by leave of the House, presented 
Bill C-104, An Act to amend the National Housing Act, 1954, which was read 
the first time, and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House. 



The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-101, An Act to 
amend the Bank of Canada Act; 

Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. MacNnaught, moved, — That the said bill be 
now read a second time. 

And debate arising thereon; the said debate was interrupted. 



By unanimous consent, it was ordered, — That section 11 of Government 
Order No. 15 on today's Order Paper be amended by inserting therein after 
the word "showing" in the eighth line thereof: "the location upon which it is 
intended to construct the proposed work, and showing". 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following paper having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
was laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 



May 13, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 109 

By Mr. Lamontagne, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Return to 
an Order of the House, dated May 5, 1965, for a copy of every communication, 
telegram and letter exchanged between the Postmaster General or his assistant 
or any one else acting on his behalf, or the head of his Department and Mr. 
Jean-Luc Pepin, Member for Drummond-Arthabaska, relating to home-mail 
delivery by mailman in Arthabaska. — (Notice of Motion for the Production of 
Papers No. 19). 



At 10.03 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put until tomorrow at 11.00 o'clock a.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, FRIDAY, MAY 14, 1965. 



11.00 o'clock a.m. 

Prayers. 

Mr. Martin (Essex East), a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, laid 
before the House, — Final Communique issued following the Ministerial Meeting 
of the North Atlantic Council in London, May 11 and 12, 1965. (English and 
French). 

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, — That the said communique be 
printed as an appendix to this day's Hansard. 

The House resumed debate on the motion of Mr. Gordon, seconded by 
Mr. MacNaught, — That Bill C-101, An Act to amend the Bank of Canada 
Act, be now read a second time. 

After further debate, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 

Accordingly, the said bill was read the second time and referred to the 
Standing Committee on Banking and Commerce or to the proposed Standing 
Committee on Finance, Trade and Economic Affairs, as the case may he. 

Bill C-104, An Act to amend the National Housing Act, 1954, was read 
the second time, considered in Committee of the Whole, reported without 
amendment and ordered for a third reading at the next sitting of the House. 

The House resumed debate on the proposed motion of Mr. Mcllraith for 
Mr. Pearson, seconded by Mr. Laing, — That Bill C-98, An Act to make provision 
for the retirement of Members of the Senate, be now read a second time. 

And debate continuing; 



112 HOUSE OF COMMONS May 14, 1965 

Mr. Howard, seconded by Mr. Mather, moved, — That the bill be not now- 
read a second time but that it be read a second time this day six months hence. 

And debate arising thereon; the said debate was interrupted. 



[At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Private Members' Business was called pursuant to 

Standing Order 15(3)'] 

(Public Bills) 

Orders numbered 1 and 2 having been called were allowed to stand at the 
request of the government. 



The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-4, An Act to 
Preserve and Promote Native Indian and Eskimo Arts and Crafts; 

Mr. Howard, seconded by Mr. Barnett, moved, — That the said bill be 
now read a second time. 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Lamontagne, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — ^Return 
to an Order of the House, dated May 5, 1965, for a copy of every communica- 
tion, telegram and letter exchanged between the Postmaster General and the 
Member for Levis, Mr. Raynald Quay, relating to door-to-door delivery by 
mailman, in Charny in the County of Levis. — (Notice of Motion for the Produc- 
tion of Papers No. 18). 

By Mr. Lamontagne, — Return to an Order of the House, dated March 24, 
1965, for a copy of all communications received by the Prime Minister, dated 
since April 8, 1963, with reference to the pensions of federal civil servants 
already retired, and for a copy of the replies of the Prime Minister thereto. — 
(Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers No. 233). 

Seventh Report of the Clerk of Petitions pursuant to Standing Order 70(7), 
as follows: 

The Clerk of Petitions has the honour to report that the petitions of the 
following, presented on May 13, meet the requirements of Standing Order 70: 

The Canadian Institute of Mining and Metallurgy, of the City of Montreal, 
Quebec, for an Act to amend its Act of incorporation providing that the head 
office of the said Institute shall be at the said City of Montreal or at such other 
place within Canada as the Institute may, by by-law, determine from time to 
time. — Mr. Moreau. 



May 14, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 113 

Donald Mercer Cormie, Ralph Perrin Forster, Dennis Robert Stewart and 
three other persons, all of the City of Edmonton, Alberta, for an Act to incor- 
porate Principal Life Insurance Company of Canada and/or "Compagnie d'As- 
surance-Vie 'Principal' du Canada", and for other purposes. — Mr. Lambert. 

The Trustee Board of the Presbyterian Church in Canada, of the City of 
Toronto, Ontario, for an Act to amend its Act of incorporation authorizing The 
Trustee Board to fix the number of its members at not less than seven and 
not more than fifteen, and for other purposes. — Mr. Cameron (High Park). 



At 6.03 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put until Monday at 2.30 o'clock p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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No. 23 

JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, MONDAY, MAY 17, 1965. 

2.30 o'clock p.m. 



Prayers. 



Mr. Patterson, seconded by Mr. Olson, by leave of the House, introduced 
Bill C-105, An Act to amend the Canada Elections Act (Political Affiliations of 
Candidates on Ballot Papers), which was read the first time and ordered for 
a second reading at the next sitting of the House. 

Pursuant to Standing Order 39(4) the following three Questions were 
made Orders of the House for Returns, namely: 

*No. 96 — Mr. Mandziuk 

1. How many persons have been engaged, hired or appointed by the Bi- 
lingualism and Biculturalism Commission to date? 

2. How many of said persons are engaged in (a) research (b) preparation 
of briefs, etc.? 

3. What are the names of each said person under (a) research (b) prepara- 
tion of briefs, etc., and what are the salaries, payments of honoraria paid or 
are still due to each of said persons? 

Mr. Stewart, Parliamentary Secretary to the Secretary of State, presented, — 
Return to the foregoing Order. 

No. 97 — Mr. Coates 
What is the total amount that has been expended to date, or owing and as 
yet unpaid for, in respect of (a) honoraria, salaries, and pay and allowances 
(b) expenses for (i) each of the Commissioners of the Bicultural and Bilingual 
Commission (ii) of other persons appointed or retained in any capacity since 
the Order in Council setting up the said Commission was passed? 

Mr. Stewart, Parliamentary Secretary to the Secretary of State, presented, — 
Return to the foregoing Order, 



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HOUSE OF COMMONS 



May 17, 1965 



No. 139 — Mr. Rondeau 

1. During the last ten years, what were the various subsidies granted to 
the dairy industry in the Counties of Shefford, Rouville and Bagot (a) for butter 
storage (b) for transport of butter (c) as subsidy for export (d) for destroyed 
butter (e) for any other subsidy or grant related to the manufacturing of any 
dairy product, its sale, storage, or consumption? 

2. To whom were these subsidies paid, and what are the amounts thereof? 

Mr. Stewart, Parliamentary Secretary to the Secretary of State, presented, — 
Return to the foregoing Order. 



Bill C-104, An Act to amend the National Housing Act, 1954, was read 
the third time and passed. 



The House resumed debate on the proposed motion of Mr. Mcllraith for 
Mr. Pearson, seconded by Mr. Laing, — That Bill C-98, An Act to make provi- 
sion for the retirement of Members of the Senate, be now read a second time; 

And on the proposed motion of Mr. Howard, seconded by Mr. Mather, — 
That the said bill be not now read a second time but that it be read a second 
time this day six months hence. 



After further debate, the question being put on the said motion, 
negatived on the following division: 

Yeas 



it was 







Messrs: 




Balcer, 


Douglas, 


Howe (Hamilton 


Orlikow, 


Barnett, 


Fisher, 


South), 


Paul, 


Brewin, 


Herridge, 


Knowles, 


Webster, 


Cameron (Nanaimo- 


Howard, 


Mather, 


Winch— 15. 


Cowichan-The 








Islands), 









Alkenbrack, 

Badanai, 

Baldwin, 

Basford, 

Batten, 

Benidickson, 

Benson, 

Blouin, 

Boulanger, 

Byrne, 

Cadieux, 

Caouette, 

Cardiff, 

Cardin, 

Caron, 

Carter, 

Cashin, 

Chatterton, 

Chretien, 

Churchill, 



Nays 
Messrs: 



Cote (Longueuil), 

Crouse, 

Danforth, 

Diefenbaker, 

Dinsdale, 

Dionne, 

Doucett, 

Drury, 

Dube, 

Ethier, 

Eudes, 

Fairweather, 

Fane, 

Flemming 

(Victoria-Carleton), 
Forbes, 
Foy, 

Gauthier, 
Gendron, 
Girouard. 



Greene, 

Gregoire, 

Groos, 

Gundlock, 

Habel, 

Haidasz, 

Hamilton, 

Harkness, 

Hellyer, 

Kelly, 

Kennedy, 

Konantz (Mrs.), 

LaMarsh (Miss), 

Laverdiere, 

Leboe, 

Legault, 

Lloyd, 

Loiselle, 

Loney, 

Macdonald, 



MacEwan, 

Maclnnis, 

MacLean (Queens), 

Macquarrie, 

MacRae, 

Mcllraith, 

McMillan, 

McWilliam, 

Madill, 

Marcoux, 

Martin (Essex East), 

Martineau, 

Matheson, 

Matte, 

Millar, 

Mitchell, 

Monteith, 

Moore, 

Muir (Lisgar), 

Mullally, 



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117 



Munro, 


Pepin, 


Rock, 


Stewart, 


Nicholson, 


Pilon, 


Rondeau, 


Tardif, 


Nielsen, 


Prud'homme, 


Roxburgh, 


Temple, 


Noble, 


Rapp, 


Sharp, 


Tremblay, 


Nugent, 


Rheaume, 


Simpson, 


Vincent, 


O'Keefe, 


Ricard, 


Southam, 


Wadds (Mrs.), 


Olson, 


Richard, 


Starr, 


Walker, 


Patterson, 


Rideout (Mrs.), 


Stenson, 


Webb, 
Willoughby — 112 



And the question being put on the main motion, it was agreed to, on 
division. 

Accordingly, the said bill was read the second time, considered in Com- 
mittee of the Whole, and progress having been made and reported, the Com- 
mittee obtained leave to consider it again later this day. 



By unanimous consent, Mr. Mcllraith, seconded by Mr. Nicholson, moved, — 
That Mr. Speaker do now leave the Chair for the House to go forthwith into 
Committee of the Whole to consider the following proposed resolution: 

That it is expedient to amend Bill C-98, now before the House, to provide, 
in the case of persons appointed to the Senate before the coming into force 
of the said Bill, for the making of contributions by such persons under Part 
III of the said Bill equal to six per cent of their sessional indemnities; for 
the granting of annuities to any such persons who have attained seventy-five 
years of age if they resign their places in the Senate within one year of 
attaining that age or within one year of the coming into force of the said 
Bill if they have already attained that age; and for the making of elections 
by any such persons who have not attained seventy-five years of age to be 
treated, for retirement and pension purposes, as though they have been 
appointed to the Senate immediately after the coming into force of the said Bill. 

Whereupon, Mr. Mcllraith, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, informed 
the House, that His Excellency the Governor General, having been informed 
of the subject-matter of the said proposed resolution, recommends it to the 
House. 

Resolved, — That the House do go into Committee of the Whole forthwith 
to consider the said proposed resolution. 

Accordingly, the House resolved itself into Committee of the Whole to 
consider the said proposed resolution. 

(In the Committee) 

The following resolution was adopted: 

Resolved, — That it is expedient to amend Bill C-98, now before the House, 
to provide, in the case of persons appointed to the Senate before the coming 
into force of the said Bill, for the making of contributions by such persons 
under Part III of the said Bill equal to six per cent of their sessional indemnities; 
for the granting of annuities to any such persons who have attained seventy- 
five years of age if they resign their places in the Senate within one year of 
attaining that age or within one year of the coming into force of the said 
Bill if they have already attained that age; and for the making of elections by 
any such persons who have not attained seventy-five years of age to be treated, 
for retirement and pension purposes, as though they had been appointed to 
the Senate immediately after the coming into force of the said Bill. 

Resolution to be reported. 



118 HOUSE OF COMMONS May 17, 1965 

The said resolution was reported, concurred in and referred to the 
Committee of the Whole on Bill C-98, An Act to make provision for the 
retirement of Members of the Senate. 



Bill C-98, An Act to make provision for the retirement of Members of 
the Senate, was again considered in Committee of the Whole (together with 
the resolution adopted this day in respect thereto) reported with amendments, 
considered as amended, and ordered for a third reading at the next sitting of 
the House. 



Mr. Mcllraith for Mr. Favreau, seconded by Mr. MacNaught, moved, — 
That a Joint Committee of the Senate and House of Commons be appointed 
to consider the state of penitentiaries under the control of the Government of 
Canada and the plans of the Government in relation thereto with powers to 
report from time to time its observations and opinions thereon; send for persons, 
papers and records; adjourn from place to place; sit during sittings of the 
House; and print from day to day such papers and evidence as may be ordered 
by the Committee, and that Standing Order 66 be suspended in relation thereto; 

That 15 Members of the House of Commons, to be designated at a later 
date, act on behalf of the House as Members of the said Committee; and 

That a Message be sent to the Senate requesting that House to unite with 
this House for the above purpose, and to select, if the Senate deem advisable, 
some of their Members to act on the proposed joint Committee. 

And debate arising thereon; 



[At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Private Members' Business was called pursuant to 

Standing Order 15(3)] 

(Notices of Motions) 

Item No. 4 under this heading having been called a second time was, 
by unanimous consent, allowed to stand and retain its position on the Order 
Paper. 



Item No. 6 having been called for the first time was allowed to stand at 
the request of the government. 



Mr. Marcoux, seconded by Mr. Patterson, moved, — That, in the opinion of 
this House, the government should consider the advisability of requiring the 
C.B.C. to allot, on radio and television, free periods of equal duration to each 
of the official political parties of the country, irrespective of the number of 
their elected members. — (Notice of Motion No. 7). 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



Debate was resumed on the proposed motion of Mr. Mcllraith for Mr. 
Favreau, seconded by Mr. MacNaught, — That a Joint Committee of the Senate 



May 17, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 119 

and House of Commons be appointed to consider the state of penitentiaries 
under the control of the Government of Canada and the plans of the Govern- 
ment in relation thereto with powers to report from time its observations 
and opinions thereon; send for persons, papers and records; adjourn from 
place to place; sit during sittings of the House; and print from day to day 
such papers and evidence as may be ordered by the Committee, and that Stand- 
ing Order 66 be suspended in relation thereto; 

That 15 Members of the House of Commons, to be designated at a later 
date, act on behalf of the House as Members of the said Committee; and 

That a Message be sent to the Senate requesting that House to unite with 
this House for the above purpose, and to select, if the Senate deem advisable, 
some of their Members to act on the proposed joint Committee. 

And debate continuing; the said debate was interrupted. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Lamontagne, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Report 
to Parliament of the Civil Service Commission on Exclusions from the Civil 
Service Act and Appointments made under section 25 of the Act, February 
1, 1964 to February 28, 1965, pursuant to section 76(2) of the said Act, chapter 
57, Statutes of Canada, 1960-61. (English and French). 

By Mr. Sharp, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Order in Council 
P.C. 1965-830, dated May 6, 1965, authorizing under section 21 of the Export 
Credits Insurance Act, contracts of insurance by the Export Credits Insurance 
Corporation for shipment of 200,000 metric tons of wheat to the Polish People's 
Republic, pursuant to section 21b of the said Act, chapter 105, R.S.C., 1952, 
as amended 1960-61. 

By Mr. Sharp, — Order in Council P.C. 1965-829, dated May 6, 1965, authoriz- 
ing, under section 21 of the Export Credits Insurance Act, contracts of insurance 
by the Export Credits Insurance Corporation for the additional sale of 3,000 
metric tons of wheat to the People's Republic of Bulgaria, pursuant to section 
2lB of the said Act, chapter 105, R.S.C., 1952, as amended 1960-61. 

By the Examiner of Petitions for Private Bills, — Fourth Report pursuant to 
Standing Order 100(2), as follows: 

The Examiner of Petitions for Private Bills has the honour to report that 
the following petitioners have complied with the requirements of Standing 
Order 96: 

The Canadian Institute of Mining and Metallurgy, of the City of Montreal, 
Quebec, for an Act to amend its Act of incorporation providing that the head 
office of the said Institute shall be at the said City of Montreal or at such 
other place within Canada as the Institute may, by by-law, determine from 
time to time. 

Donald Mercer Cormie, Ralph Perrin Forster, Dennis Robert Stewart and 
three other persons, all of the City of Edmonton, Alberta, for an Act to incor- 
porate Principal Life Insurance Company of Canada and/or "Compagnie d'As- 
surance-Vie 'Principal' du Canada", and for other purposes. 



120 HOUSE OF COMMONS May 17, 1965 

The Trustee Board of The Presbyterian Church in Canada, of the City 
of Toronto, Ontario, for an Act to amend its Act of incorporation authorizing 
The Trustee Board to fix the number of its members at not less than seven 
and not more than fifteen, and for other purposes. 



At ten o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question put 
until tomorrow at 2.30 o'clock p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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No. 24 

JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, TUESDAY, MAY 18, 1965. 

2.30 o*clock p.m. 



Prayers. 



A petition from "La Societe Marquette, Inc.", Montreal, P.Q., dated May 
18, 1965, was laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 70(1). 



Mr. McUraith, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, delivered a Mes- 
sage from His Excellency the Governor General which was read by Mr. Speaker, 
as follows: 

GOVERNMENT HOUSE 
OTTAWA 

The Governor General transmits to the House of Commons Supplementary 
Estimates (A) of sums required for the service of Canada for the year ending 
on the 31st March, 1966, and, in accordance with the provisions of The British 
North America Act, 1867, the Governor General recommends these Estimates 
to the House of Commons. 

ROBERT TASCHEREAU, 
Deputy to the Governor General. 

On motion of Mr. Mcllraith, seconded by Mr. Sharp, the said Message and 
Supplementary Estimates (A) were referred to the Committee of Supply. 



Mr. Thompson, seconded by Mr. Olson, by leave of the House introduced 
Bill C-106, An Act to provide for the Establishment of the Alaska-Yukon 
Highway Authority (Alaska Highway), which was read the first time and 
ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House. 



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May 18, 1965 



Mr. Pickersgill, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, laid before the 
House, — Copies of letters dated May 3 and May 12, 1965, exchanged between 
the Minister of Transport and the President of the Canadian Pacific Railway 
Company concerning railway passenger traffic. (English and French). 



The Order being read for the third reading of Bill C-98, An Act to make 
provision for the retirement of Members of the Senate; 

Mr. Mcllraith for Mr. Pearson, seconded by Mr. MacNaught, moved, — That 
the said bill be now read a third time and do pass. 

And debate arising thereon; 

Mr. Diefenbaker, seconded by Mr. Starr, moved in amendment thereto, — 
That the said Bill be not now read a third time, but that it be referred back 
to the Committee of the Whole House with instruction that they have the 
power to amend it by adding thereto a clause to the effect: 

That this Act shall come into force on the day fixed for the return of 
the writs of election at the first general election of members to serve in the 
House of Commons of Canada held after the day this Act is assented to. 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said proposed amend- 
ment, it was negatived on the following division: 







Yeas 








Messrs: 




Aiken, 


Flemming 


Loney, 


Pigeon, 


Alkenbrack, 


(Victoria-Carleton), MacEwan, 


Prittie, 


Baldwin, 


Forbes, 


Maclnnis, 


Pugh, 


Barnett, 


Girouard, 


MacLean (Queens), 


Rapp, 


Bell, 


Grafftey, 


Macquarrie, 


Rheaume, 


Bigg, 


Gundlock, 


MacRae, 


Ricard, 


Cameron (Nanaimo 


. Hales, 


Madill, 


Saltsman, 


Cowichan-The 


Hamilton, 


Martin (Timmins), 


Simpson, 


Islands), 


Harkness, 


Martineau, 


Smith, 


Cardiff, 


Herridge, 


Mather, 


Southam, 


Chatterton, 


Horner (Jasper- 


Monteith, 


Starr, 


Churchill, 


Edson), 


Moore, 


Stefanson, 


Crouse, 


Howard, 


Muir (Cape Breton 


Stenson, 


Danforth, 


Howe (Wellington- North and 


Thomas, 


Diefenbaker, 


Huron), 


Victoria), 


Valade, 


Dinsdale, 


Irvine, 


Muir (Lisgar), 


Vincent, 


Doucett, 


Jorgenson, 


Nesbitt, 


Wadds (Mrs.) 


Douglas, 


Kennedy, 


Noble, 


Webb, 


Fairweather, 


Kindt, 


Nugent, 


Webster, 


Fane, 


Knowles, 


Orlikow, 


Willoughby, 


Fisher, 






Winch— 75. 



Nays 
Messrs: 



Addison, 


Basford, 


Blouin, 


Caouette, 


Armstrong, 


Batten, 


Boulanger, 


Cardin, 


Asselin (Notre- 


Beaule, 


Boutin, 


Caron, 


Dame-de-Grace), 


Bechard, 


Brown, 


Carter, 


Asselin (Richmond- 


Beer, 


Byrne, 


Cashin, 


Wolfe). 


Belanger, 


Cadieux, 


Chapdelaine, 


Badanai, 


Benidickson, 


Cameron (High 


Chretien, 


Balcer, 


Berger, 


Park), 


Cote (Chicoutimi) 



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12 


Cot6 (Longueuil). 


Guay, 


Lessard (Saint- 


Pearson, 


Cowan, 


Habel, 


Henri), 


Pickersgill, 


Grossman, 


Hahn, 


Loiselle, 


Pilon, 


Cyr, 


Haidasz, 


Macdonald, 


Prud'homme, 


Deachman, 


Hellyer, 


MacEachen, 


Rideout (Mrs.), 


Deschatelets, 


Honey, 


MacNaught, 


Rinfret, 


Dionne, 


Jewett (Miss), 


Mcllraith, 


Robichaud, 


Drouin, 


Kelly. 


McLean (Charlotte) 


, Rochon, 


Drury, 


Klein, 


McMillan, 


Rock, 


Dube, 


Konantz (Mrs.), 


McNulty, 


Rondeau, 


Emard, 


Lachance, 


McWilliam. 


Roxburgh, 


Ethier, 


LaMarsh (Miss). 


Marcoux, 


Ryan, 


Eudes, 


Lamoureux, 


Matheson, 


Sauve, 


Favreau, 


Laniel, 


Matte, 


Sharp, 


Forest, 


Latulippe, 


Mitchell, 


Stewart, 


Foy, 


Laverdiere, 


Moreau, 


Tardif, 


Frenette, 


Leblanc, 


Mullally, 


Temple, 


Gauthier, 


Leboe, 


Munro, 


Thompson, 


Gelber. 


Leduc, 


Nicholson, 


Tremblay, 


Gordon, 


Legault, 


Nixon, 


Wahn, 


Granger, 


Lessard (Lac-Saint- 


O'Keefe, 


Walker, 


Greene, 


Jean), 


Olson, 


Watson (Chateau- 


Gregoire, 




Patterson, 


guay-Huntingdon- 
Laprairie) — 117. 



IPrivate Members' Business was called pursuant to Standing Order 15 (S)"] 

(Private Bills) 

The House resumed debate on the proposed motion of Mr. Basford, seconded 
by Mr. Whelan, — That Bill C-95, An Act to incorporate Laurentide Bank of 
Canada, be now read a second time. 

And debate continuing; 

Mr. Belanger, seconded by Mr. Latulippe, moved, — That the said bill be not 
now read a second time, but that it be read a second time this day six months 
hence. 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



Debate was resumed on the proposed motion of Mr. Mcllraith for Mr. 
Pearson seconded by Mr. MacNaught, — That Bill C-98, an Act to make provi- 
sion for the retirement of Members of the Senate, be now read a third time 
and do pass. 

After further debate, the question being put on the said motion it was 
agreed to, on division. 

Accordingly, the said bill was read the third time and passed. 



The order being read for the second reading of Bill C-102, An Act respect- 
ing Banks and Banking; 

Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Favreau moved, — That the said bill be now 
read a second time. 

And debate arising thereon; the said debate was interrupted. 

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Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following paper having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
was laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Laing, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Copy of Ordinances, 
chapters 1 to 10, made by the Commissioner in Council of the Yukon Territory, 
assented to March 26, April 8, and April 12, 1965, pursuant to section 20 of 
the Yukon Act, chapter 53, Statutes of Canada, 1952-63, together with a copy 
of Order in Council P.C. 1965-853, dated May 6, 1965, approving same. 



At ten o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question put 
until tomorrow at 2.30 o'clock p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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No. 25 

JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



Prayers. 



OTTAWA, WEDNESDAY, MAY 19, 1965. 

2.30 o'clock p.m. 



A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Senate had passed the following bills, without any amendment: 

Bill C-96, An Act to amend an Act to amend the Excise Tax Act. 

Bill C-97, An Act to amend certain Acts respecting the superannuation of 
persons employed in the Public Service, members of the Canadian Forces and 
members of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. 

Pursuant to Standing Order 39(4) the following six Questions were made 
Orders of the House for Returns, namely: 

No. 21 — Mr. Muir (Cape Breton North and Victoria) 
Since January 1st, 1964, what goods were sold from the Point Edward 
Naval Base (itemized), to whom, and for how much? 

Mr. Stewart, Parliamentary Secretary to the Secretary of State, presented, — 
Return to the foregoing Order. 

No. 41 — Mr. Matheson 
Commencing with the year 1946, and concluding with the year 1964, what 
was (a) the number of executions, if any (b) the number of convictions for 
murder (c) the percentage that (a) bears to (b), and (d) the homicide mor- 
tality rate per million population? 

Mr. Stewart, Parliamentary Secretary to the Secretary of State, presented, — 
Return to the foregoing Order. 

No. 71 — Mr. Deachman 
1. In each year since 1950, what has been the total of contracts let to 
British Columbia shipyards by the federal government for shipbuilding of all 
kinds? 

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126 HOUSE OF COMMONS May 19, 1965 

2. For each year since the inception of the shipbuilding subsidy pro- 
gramme what has been (a) the total value of contracts let in British Columbia 
yards to which the subsidy was applicable (b) the total amount of subsidy paid 
by the government under item 1 ? 

3. What is the current value of contracts in British Columbia yards uncom- 
pleted but approved and what is the estimated subsidy thereon? 

Mr. Stewart, Parliamentary Secretary to the Secretary of State, presented, — 
Return to the foregoing Order. 

No. 244 — Mr. Martineau 

1. How many Royal Commissions has the government appointed since the 
22nd of April, 1963? 

2. What is the name of each Commission so appointed since that date? 

3. What is, in each case, the purpose of such Royal Commission? 

4. Who is, in each case, the Chairman of such Royal Commission? 

5. How many members compose, in each case, these Royal Commissions? 

6. What is, in each case, the basis of their remuneration? 

7. How many secretaries, assistants or clerical employees does each such 
Commission have? 

8. What is the cost to date of each Commission? 

9. How many of these Commissions have to date submitted a report, either 
to the government or Parliament, and is such report, in each case, interim or 
final? 

10. How many other Royal Commissions has the government announced 
its intention of appointing? 

11. How many more Royal Commissions does the government intend to 
appoint? 

Mr. Stewart, Parliamentary Secretary to the Secretary of State, presented, — 
Return to the foregoing Order. 

No. 290 — Mr. Watson (Assiniboia) 

1. How many tenders were received by Crown Assets Disposal Corporation 
for Part 1 of the former Buttress Airport, 400 acres, located South of Moose Jaw, 
Saskatchewan? 

2. What was the name and address of each tenderer, and the price offered? 

3. Who was the successful bidder? 

Mr. Stewart, Parliamentary Secretary to the Secretary of State, presented, — 
Return to the foregoing Order. 

No. 291 — Mr. Watson (Assiniboia) 

1. How many tenders were received by Crown Assets Disposal Corporation 
for Part 2 of the former Buttress Airport, 205 acres, located South of Moose Jaw, 
Saskatchewan? 

2. What was the name and address of each tenderer, and the price offered? 

3. Who was the successful bidder? 

Mr. Stewart, Parliamentary Secretary to the Secretary of State, presented, — 
Return to the foregoing Order. 



May 19, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 127 

Notices of Motions for the Production of Papers Nos. 15 and 26 were allowed 
to stand at the request of the government. 



Mr. Rondeau, seconded by, Mr. Langlois, moved, — That an Order of the 
House do issue for a copy of all correspondence and written instructions con- 
cerning the monetary policy of the country, exchanged between the Minister 
of Finance and the Governor of the Bank of Canada since January 1, 1960. 
— (Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers No. 27). 

And the question being proposed; 

The Honourable the Minister of Finance (Mr. Gordon) stated that he 
desired a debate on the said motion. 

Ordered, — That the said motion be transferred by the Clerk to the order 
of "Notices of Motions (Papers)", pursuant to Standing Order 47 as provisionally 
amended April 20, 1964. 



Pursuant to provisional order adopted on April 20, 1964, it was ordered, — 
That there be laid before this House copies of all correspondence between the 
Prime Minister and/or the Minister of Transport and the President of the 
C.P.R., Mr. R. A. Emerson and the President of the C.N.R., Mr. Donald Gordon 
in 1965, regarding the needs of the two railways for a subsidy from the 
federal government to meet increased costs of labour and the inability of the 
railways to increase their freight rates. — (Notice of Motion for the Production 
of Papers No. 28 — Mr. Orlikow). 



Pursuant to provisional order adopted on April 20, 1964, it was ordered, — 
That there be laid before this House copies of all communications, letters, 
telegrams, etc., between the Minister of Justice and the correctional organiza- 
tions, such as the Canadian Corrections Association, John Howard Society, 
Elizabeth Fry Society, etc., in the years 1964-65 with reference to the decision 
of the Department of Justice to build its special security institutions. — (Notice 
of Motion for the Production of Papers No. 30 — Mr. Orlikow). 



Pursuant to provisional order adopted on April 20, 1964, it was resolved, — 
That an humble Address be presented to His Excellency praying that he will 
cause to be laid before this House a copy of all correspondence since May 23, 
1964, exchanged between the Government of Saskatchewan and any Minister 
of the Government regarding the Federal-Provincial Vocational and Technical 
Agreement scheduled to expire on March 31, 1966. — (Notice of Motion for the 
Production of Papers No. 31 — Mr. Douglas). 



By unanimous consent, the House reverted to "Motions". 



Mr. Pickersgill, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, laid before the 
House, — (1) Statement by the Premier of Ontario in the Ontario Legislature on 
May 19, 1965, relating to transportation in Metropolitan Toronto. 



128 HOUSE OF COMMONS May 19, 1965 

(2) Statement by the Minister of Highways and Chairman of the Metro- 
politan Toronto and Region Transportation Study in the Ontario Legislature 
on May 19, 1965. 

(3) Statement by the President of the Canadian National Railways, dated 
May 19, 1965, concerning railway commuter service in the Toronto area. 



Mr. Pickersgill laid before the House, — Order No. 4,222 of the Air Trans- 
port Board, dated May 6, 1965, with reference to charter tariff No. 5 of Autair 
Helicopter Services Ltd. 



Mr. Pearson, seconded by Mr. Mcllraith, moved, — That this House recognizes 
the need for improving its procedures to provide full opportunity for the 
critical examination of proposed legislation and to ensure the effective dispatch 
of public business; 

That this House agrees upon the need for allocating the time for the 
business of the House; and 

That, in order to secure improved examination of the details of legislation 
and of public spending, while maintaining the full authority of the House, this 
House agrees upon the value of making increased use of Standing Committees; 

That this House accordingly orders: 

1. That detailed examination of estimates, saving always the right 
of the Committee of Supply, be undertaken by Standing Committees 
and that not more than 36 days of the time of the House be allocated 
to the business of supply in each session. For the purpose of this order, 
the business of supply shall consist of proceedings on motions "That 
Mr. Speaker do now leave the Chair"; supplementary or additional 
estimates for the financial year; interim supply; and main estimates 
whether for the coming or the current financial year. That a Special 
Committee of the House, consisting of twenty-two members, to be 
designated later by the House, be instructed to prepare and to submit 
to the House forthwith the changes in Standing Orders consequential 
upon this order, including any means of giving to the opposition an 
opportunity to select the departmental estimates to be discussed. 

2. That the Standing Orders be amended by adding thereto a new 
Standing Order 15-A, to read as follows: 

Standing Order 15-A 

15-A. (1) There shall be a Business Committee to which the leader 
of each party in the House from time to time by written notice to the 
Speaker may appoint one member. 

(2) During routine proceedings a Minister of the Crown may 
request that the question of allocation of time for consideration of any 
item of business or stage thereof be referred to the Business Committee 
for consideration and report, and upon such request being made such 
question shall stand referred to the committee. 

(3) The Business Committee shall report back to the House on or 
before the third sitting day following such request. 

(4) If the Chairman of the Business Committee reports that the 
Committee has unanimously recommended an allocation of time for 
the item of business or stage thereof, a Minister of the Crown may 



May 19, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 129 

without notice propose a motion, to be decided without debate or amend- 
ment, for concurrence in the report, and, if agreed to, the motion shall 
have the same effect as if it were an order of the House. 

(5) If the Chairman of the Business Committee reports that the 
committee has been unable to reach a unanimous agreement or if the 
committee fails to report within the time specified by Section (3) of this 
Standing Order, a Minister of the Crown may give notice that at the 
next sitting of the House he will move that an order be made allocating 
the time for the item of business or stage thereof. 

(6) A motion of which a Minister has given notice under Section 
(5) of this Standing Order shall be made during routine proceedings. 
Unless the debate on the motion has been previously concluded, Mr. 
Speaker shall at fifteen minutes before the expiry of the time provided 
for Government business in such sitting, interrupt the proceedings and 
forthwith put every question necessary to dispose of the main motion. 
A motion requesting allocation of time, if agreed to, shall have the 
same effect as if it were an order of the House. 

And debate arising thereon; 

By unanimous consent, the said debate was adjourned. 



lAt 5.00 o'clock p.m., Private Members' Business was called pursuant to 

Standing Order 15(3)'] 

(Notices of Motions) 

Mr. Hales, seconded by Mr. Bigg, moved, — That, in the opinion of this 
House, the government should give consideration to the advisability of amending 
the Estate Tax Act to provide for payment in appropriate cases of estate tax 
assessments by instalments so as to reduce the number of "forced sale" liquida- 
tions of estate assets, which in many cases have resulted in the loss of Cana- 
dian ownership and control of Canadian business enterprises. — (Notice of 
Motion No. 4). 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The follov/ing papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Mcllraith, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Statutory 
Orders and Regulations published in the Canada Gazette, Part II, of Wednes- 
day, May 12, 1965, pursuant to section 7 of the Regulations Act, chapter 235, 
R.S.C., 1952 (English and French). 

Eighth Report of the Clerk of Petitions pursuant to Standing Order 70(7), 
as follows: 

The Clerk of Petitions has the honour to report that he has examined the 
petition of "La Societe Marquette, Inc.", of Montreal, Province of Quebec, 



130 HOUSE OF COMMONS May 19, 1965 

submitting that the Government of Canada can and should guarantee all Cana- 
dian Citizens under the age of sixteen the sum of $30 per month beginning 
in July 1965 as "Basic Personal Right", and for other purposes, and finds that 
the said petition meets the requirements of Standing Order 70. — Mr. Latulippe. 



At six o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question put 
until tomorrow at 2.30 o'clock p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



J 



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No. 26 

JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, THURSDAY, MAY 20, 1965. 

2.30 o'clock p.m. 



Prayers. 



A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Senate had passed the following bill to which the concurrence of this House 
is desired: 

Bill S-4, An Act respecting The Algoma Central and Hudson Bay Railway 
Company. — Mr. Nixon. 

The said bill was deemed to have been read the first time and ordered 
for a second reading at the next sitting of the House pursuant to Standing 
Order 103(2). 



The House resumed the adjourned debate on the proposed motion of 
Mr. Pearson, seconded by Mr. McUraith, — That this House recognizes the need 
for improving its procedures to provide full opportunity for the critical examina- 
tion of proposed legislation and to ensure the effective dispatch of public 
business; 

That this House agrees upon the need for allocating the time for the 
business of the House; and 

That, in order to secure improved examination of the details of legislation 
and of public spending, while maintaining the full authority of the House, this 
House agrees upon the value of making increased use of Standing Committees; 
That this House accordingly orders: 

1. That detailed examination of estimates, saving always the right 
of the Committee of Supply, be undertaken by Standing Committees 
and that not more than 36 days of the time of the House be allocated 
to the business of supply in each session. For the purpose of this order, 
the business of supply shall consist of proceedings on motions "That 

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132 HOUSE OF COMMONS May 20, 1965 

Mr. Speaker do now leave the Chair"; supplementary or additional 
estimates for the financial year; interim supply; and main estimates 
whether for the coming or the current financial year. That a Special 
Committee of the House, consisting of twenty-two members, to be 
designated later by the House, be instructed to prepare and to submit 
to the House forthwith the changes in Standing Orders consequential 
upon this order, including any means of giving to the opposition an 
opportunity to select the departmental estimates to be discussed. 

2. That the Standing Orders be amended by adding thereto a new 
Standing Order 15-A, to read as follows: 

Standing Order 15-A 

15-A. (1) There shall be a Business Committee to which the leader 
of each party in the House from time to time by written notice to the 
Speaker may appoint one member. 

(2) During routine proceedings a Minister of the Crown may 
request that the question of allocation of time for consideration of any 
item of business or stage thereof be referred to the Business Committee 
for consideration and report, and upon such request being made such 
question shall stand referred to the committee. 

(3) The Business Committee shall report back to the House on or 
before the third sitting day following such request. 

(4) If the Chairman of the Business Committee reports that the 
Committee has unanimously recommended an allocation of time for 
the item of business or stage thereof, a Minister of the Crown may 
without notice propose a motion, to be decided without debate or amend- 
ment, for concurrence in the report, and, if agreed to, the motion shall 
have the same effect as if it were an order of the House. 

(5) If the Chairman of the Business Committee reports that the 
committee has been unable to reach a unanimous agreement or if the 
committee fails to report within the time specified by Section (3) of this 
Standing Order, a Minister of the Crown may give notice that at the 
next sitting of the House he will move that an order be made allocating 
the time for the item of business or stage thereof. 

(6) A motion of which a Minister has given notice under Section 
(5) of this Standing Order shall be made during routine proceedings. 
Unless the debate on the motion has been previously concluded, Mr. 
Speaker shall at fifteen minutes before the expiry of the time provided 
for Government business in such sitting, interrupt the proceedings and 
forthwith put every question necessary to dispose of the main motion. 
A motion requesting allocation of time, if agreed to, shall have the 
same effect as if it were an order of the House. 

And debate continuing; 



[At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Private Mernhers' Business was called pursuant to 

Standing Order 15(3)1 

[Notices of Motion (Papers)'] 

Items numbered 5 and 6 having been called were allowed to stand at the 
request of the government. 



May 20, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 133 

Mr. Hales, seconded by Mr. Aiken, moved, — That an humble Address be 
presented to His Excellency praying that he will cause to be laid before this 
House a copy of all letters and other documents since the 1st day of January, 
1964, exchanged between the Government of Canada and the Government of 
the United States in connection with the Agreement providing for duty-free 
trade within the Automobile Industry. — {Notice of Motion for the Production 
of Papers No. 1). 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



Debate was resumed on the proposed motion of Mr. Pearson, seconded by 
Mr. Mcllraith, — That this House recognizes the need for improving its proce- 
dures to provide full opportunity for the critical examination of proposed 
legislation and to ensure the effective dispatch of public business; 

That this House agrees upon the need for allocating the time for the 
business of the House; and 

That, in order to secure improved examination of the details of legislation 
and of public spending, while maintaining the full authority of the House, this 
House agrees upon the value of making increased use of Standing Committees; 

That this House accordingly orders: 

1. That detailed examination of estimates, saving always the right 
of the Committee of Supply, be undertaken by Standing Committees 
and that not more than 36 days of the time of the House be allocated 
to the business of supply in each session. For the purpose of this order, 
the business of supply shall consist of proceedings on motions "That 
Mr. Speaker do now leave the Chair"; supplementary or additional 
estimates for the financial year; interim supply; and main estimates 
w^hether for the coming or the current financial year. That a Special 
Committee of the House, consisting of twenty-two members, to be 
designated later by the House, be instructed to prepare and to submit 
to the House forthwith the changes in Standing Orders consequential 
upon this order, including any means of giving to the opposition an 
opportunity to select the departmental estimates to be discussed. 

2. That the Standing Orders be amended by adding thereto a new 
Standing Order 15-A, to read as follows: 

Standing Order 15-A 

15-A. (1) There shall be a Business Committee to which the leader 
of each party in the House from time to time by written notice to the 
Speaker may appoint one member. 

(2) During routine proceedings a Minister of the Crown may 
request that the question of allocation of time for consideration of any 
item of business or stage thereof be referred to the Business Committee 
for consideration and report, and upon such request being made such 
question shall stand referred to the committee. 

(3) The Business Committee shall report back to the House on or 
before the third sitting day following such request. 

(4) If the Chairman of the Business Committee reports that the 
Committee has unanimously recommended an allocation of time for 

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134 HOUSE OF COMMONS May 20, 1965 

the item of business or stage thereof, a Minister of the Crown may 
without notice propose a motion, to be decided without debate or amend- 
ment, for concurrence in the report, and, if agreed to, the motion shall 
have the same effect as if it were an order of the House. 

(5) If the Chairman of the Business Committee reports that the 
committee has been unable to reach a unanimous agreement or if the 
committee fails to report within the time specified by Section (3) of this 
Standing Order, a Minister of the Crown may give notice that at the 
next sitting of the House he will move that an order be made allocating 
the time for the item of business or stage thereof. 

(6) A motion of which a Minister has given notice under Section 
(5) of this Standing Order shall be made during routine proceedings. 
Unless the debate on the motion has been previously concluded, Mr. 
Speaker shall at fifteen minutes before the expiry of the time provided 
for Government business in such sitting, interrupt the proceedings and 
forthwith put every question necessary to dispose of the main motion. 
A motion requesting allocation of time, if agreed to, shall have the 
same effect as if it were an order of the House. 

And debate continuing; 

Mr. Knowles, seconded by Mr. Barnett, moved in amendment thereto, — 
That the Resolution be amended by deleting from paragraph 1 thereof the 
sentence which reads: "For the purpose of this order, the business of supply 
shall consist of proceedings on motions 'That Mr. Speaker do now leave the 
Chair'; supplementary or additional estimates for the financial year; interim 
supply; and main estimates whether for the coming or the current financial 
year"; and by substituting therefor the following sentence: "For the purpose 
of this order, the business of supply shall consist of interim supply and main 
estimates whether for the coming or the current financial year". 

And debate arising thereon; 

Mr. Olson, seconded by Mr. Frenette, moved in amendment to the said 
proposed amendment, — That the following be added after the words "current 
financial year" at the end of the proposed amendment: 

"Supplementary or additional estimates, excepting supplementary 
or additional estimates introduced after the main estimates have been 
approved, and excepting always the final supplementary or additional 
estimates." 

And debate arising thereon; the said debate was interrupted. 



(Proceedings on Adjournment Motion) 

By unanimous consent, at 9.56 o'clock p.m., the question "That this House 
do now adjourn" was deemed to have been proposed pursuant to provisional 
Standing Order 39-A; 

After debate thereon, the said question was deemed to have been adopted. 



May 20, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 135 

Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Lamontagne, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Return to 
an Order of the House, dated May 12, 1965 for copies of orders issued by the 
Minister of National Revenue since December 23, 1963, under the provisions 
of section 38 of the Customs Act for the purpose of fixing duties. — {Notice of 
Motion for the Production of Papers No. 23). 

By Mr. Martin (Essex East), a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — 
Memorandum prepared by the Department of External Affairs commenting 
upon a publication entitled "Facts about the War in Vietnam". 



At 10.16 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow 
at 11.00 o'clock a.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, FRIDAY, MAY 21, 1965. 



11.00 o'clock a.m. 

Prayers. 

On motion of the Right Honourable the Prime Minister, seconded by the 
Right Honourable the Leader of the Opposition, it was resolved, — That Mr. 
Speaker convey to Her Majesty the Queen the loyal and affectionate congratula- 
tions of this House on the official celebration of Her birthday. 



The House resumed debate on the proposed motion of Mr. Pearson, seconded 
by Mr. Mcllraith, — That this House recognizes the need for improving its 
procedures to provide full opportunity for the critical examination of proposed 
legislation and to ensure the effective dispatch of public business; 

That this House agrees upon the need for allocating the time for the 
business of the House; and 

That, in order to secure improved examination of the details of legislation 
and of public spending, while maintaining the full authority of the House, this 
House agrees upon the value of making increased use of Standing Committees; 
That this House accordingly orders: 

1. That detailed examination of estimates, saving always the right 
of the Committee of Supply, be undertaken by Standing Committees 
and that not more than 36 days of the time of the House be allocated 
to the business of supply in each session. For the purpose of this order, 
the business of supply shall consist of proceedings on motions "That 
Mr. Speaker do now leave the Chair"; supplementary or additional 
estimates for the financial year; interim supply; and main estimates 
whether for the coming or the current financial year. That a Special 
Committee of the House, consisting of twenty-two members, to be 



138 HOUSE OF COMMONS May 21, 1965 

designated later by the House, be instructed to prepare and to submit 
to the House forthwith the changes in Standing Orders consequential 
upon this order, including anj^ means of giving to the opposition an 
opportunity to select the departmental estimates to be discussed. 

2. That the Standing Orders be amended by adding thereto a new- 
Standing Order 15- A, to read as follows: 

Standing Order 15- A 

15-A. (1) There shall be a Business Committee to which the leader 
of each party in the House from time to time by written notice to the 
Speaker may appoint one member. 

(2) During routine proceedings a Minister of the Crown may 
request that the question of allocation of time for consideration of any 
item of business or stage thereof be referred to the Business Committee 
for consideration and report, and upon such request being made such 
question shall stand referred to the committee. 

(3) The Business Committee shall report back to the House on or 
before the third sitting day following such request. 

(4) If the Chairman of the Business Committee reports that the 
Committee has unanimously recommended an allocation of time for 
the item of business or stage thereof, a Minister of the Crown may 
without notice propose a motion, to be decided without debate or amend- 
ment, for concurrence in the report, and, if agreed to, the motion shall 
have the same effect as if it were an order of the House. 

(5) If the Chairman of the Business Committee reports that the 
committee has been unable to reach a unanimous agreement or if the 
committee fails to report within the time specified by Section (3) of this 
Standing Order, a Minister of the Crown may give notice that at the 
next sitting of the House he will move that an order be made allocating 
the time for the item of business or stage thereof. 

(6) A motion of which a Minister has given notice under Section 
(5) of this Standing Order shall be made during routine proceedings. 
Unless the debate on the motion has been previously concluded, Mr. 
Speaker shall at fifteen minutes before the expiry of the time provided 
for Government business in such sitting, interrupt the proceedings and 
forthwith put every question necessary to dispose of the main motion. 
A motion requesting allocation of time, if agreed to, shall have the 
same effect as if it were an order of the House; 

And on the proposed motion of Mr. Knowles, seconded by Mr. Barnett, in 
amendment thereto, — That the Resolution be amended by deleting from para- 
graph 1 thereof the sentence which reads: "For the purpose of this order, 
the business of supply shall consist of proceedings on motions 'That Mr. Speaker 
do now leave the Chair'; supplementary or additional estimates for the financial 
year; interim supply; and main estimates whether for the coming or the cur- 
rent financial year"; and by substituting therefor the following sentence: "For 
the purpose of this order, the business of supply shall consist of interim supply 
and main estimates whether for the coming or the current financial year"; 



May 21, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 139 

And on the proposed motion of Mr. Olson, seconded by Mr. Frenette, in 

amendment to the said proposed amendment, — That the following be added 

after the words "current financial year" at the end of the proposed amendment: 

"Supplementary or additional estimates, excepting supplementary 

or additional estimates introduced after the main estimates have been 

approved, and excepting always the final supplementary or additional 

estimates." 

And debate continuing; the said debate was interrupted. 



[At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Private Members' Business was called pursuant to 

Standing Order 15(3)] 

(Public Bills) 

The order being read for the second reading of Bill C-2, An Act to amend 
the Criminal Code (The Judas-Tree Amendment) ; 

Mr. Fisher, seconded by Mr. Knowles, moved, — That the said bill be now 
read a second time. 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Benidickson, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, by command 
of His Excellency the Governor General, — Report on the Administration of 
the Emergency Gold Mining Assistance Act for the year ended March 31, 1965, 
pursuant to section 10 of the said Act, chapter 95, R.S.C., 1952. 

By Mr. Lamontagne, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Return 
to an Order of the House, dated May 5, 1965, for a copy of all the names of 
those who acquired a series of 1965 coins from the Mint in Ottawa between 
January 1st and 10th, 1965. — (Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers 
No. 14). 

By Mr. Mcllraith, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Consolidated 
Index and Table of Statutory Orders and Regulations published in the Canada 
Gazette, Part H, for the period January 1, 1955 to March 31, 1965. (English 
and French). 



At 6.02 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put until Tuesday next at 2.30 o'clock p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 2(4). 



14 ELIZABETH II— A.D. 1965 141 

No. 28 

JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, TUESDAY, MAY 25, 1965. 

2.30 o'clock p.m. 



Prayers. 



A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Senate had passed the following bill to which the concurrence of this House is 
desired: 

Bill S-6, An Act respecting Muttart Mortgage Corporation. — Mr. Wahn. 

The said bill was deemed to have been read the first time and ordered for a 
second reading at the next sitting of the House pursuant to Standing Order 
103(2). 

The House resumed debate on the proposed motion of Mr. Pearson, seconded 
by Mr. McUraith, — That this House recognizes the need for improving its 
procedures to provide full opportunity for the critical examination of proposed 
legislation and to ensure the effective dispatch of public business; 

That this House agrees upon the need for allocating the time for the 
business of the House; and 

That, in order to secure improved examination of the details of legislation 
and of public spending, while maintaining the full authority of the House, this 
House agrees upon the value of making increased use of Standing Committees; 

That this House accordingly orders: 

1. That detailed examination of estimates, saving always the right 
of the Committee of Supply, be undertaken by Standing Committees 
and that not more than 36 days of the time of the House be allocated 
to the business of supply in each session. For the purpose of this order, 
the business of supply shall consist of proceedings on motions "That 
Mr. Speaker do now leave the Chair"; supplementary or additional 
estimates for the financial year; interim supply; and main estimates 



142 HOUSE OF COMMONS May 25, 1965 

whether for the coming or the current financial year. That a Special 
Committee of the House, consisting of twenty-two members, to be 
designated later by the House, be instructed to prepare and to submit 
to the House forthwith the changes in Standing Orders consequential 
upon this order, including any means of giving to the opposition an 
opportunity to select the departmental estimates to be discussed. 

2. That the Standing Orders be amended by adding thereto a new 
Standing Order 15-A, to read as follows: 

Standing Order 15-A 

15-A. (1) There shall be a Business Committee to which the leader 
of each party in the House from time to time by written notice to the 
Speaker may appoint one member. 

(2) During routine proceedings a Minister of the Crown may 
request that the question of allocation of time for consideration of any 
item of business or stage thereof be referred to the Business Committee 
for consideration and report, and upon such request being made such 
question shall stand referred to the committee. 

(3) The Business Committee shall report back to the House on or 
before the third sitting day following such request. 

(4) If the Chairman of the Business Committee reports that the 
Committee has unanimously recommended an allocation of time for 
the item of business or stage thereof, a Minister of the Crown may 
without notice propose a motion, to be decided without debate or amend- 
ment, for concurrence in the report, and, if agreed to, the motion shall 
have the same effect as if it were an order of the House. 

(5) If the Chairman of the Business Committee reports that the 
committee has been unable to reach a unanimous agreement or if the 
committee fails to report within the time specified by Section (3) of this 
Standing Order, a Minister of the Crown may give notice that at the 
next sitting of the House he will move that an order be made allocating 
the time for the item of business or stage thereof. 

(6) A motion of which a Minister has given notice under Section 
(5) of this Standing Order shall be made during routine proceedings. 
Unless the debate on the motion has been previously concluded, Mr. 
Speaker shall at fifteen minutes before the expiry of the time provided 
for Government business in such sitting, interrupt the proceedings and 
forthwith put every question necessary to dispose of the main motion. 
A motion requesting allocation of time, if agreed to, shall have the 
same effect as if it were an order of the House; 

And on the proposed motion of Mr. Knowles, seconded by Mr. Barnett, in 
amendment thereto, — That the Resolution be amended by deleting from para- 
graph 1 thereof the sentence which reads: "For the purpose of this order, 
the business of supply shall consist of proceedings on motions 'That Mr. Speaker 
do now leave the Chair'; supplementary or additional estimates for the financial 
year; interim supply; and main estimates whether for the coming or the cur- 



May 25, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 143 

rent financial year"; and by substituting therefor the following sentence: "For 
the purpose of this order, the business of supply shall consist of interim supply 
and main estimates whether for the coming or the current financial year"; 

And on the proposed motion of Mr. Olson, seconded by Mr. Frenette, in 
amendment to the said proposed amendment, — That the following be added 
after the words "current financial year" at the end of the proposed amendment: 

"Supplementary or additional estimates, excepting supplementary 
or additional estimates introduced after the main estimates have been 
approved, and excepting always the final supplementary or additional 
estimates." 

And debate continuing; 



lAt 5.00 o'clock p.m., Private Members' Business was called pursuant to 

Standing Order 15(3)] 

(Private Bills) 

The House resumed debate on the proposed motion of Mrs. Konantz, 
seconded by Mr. Ryan, — That Bill C-99, An Act to incorporate Bank of Western 
Canada, be now read a second time. 

And debate continuing; 

Mr. Laprise, seconded by Mr. Perron, moved, — That the said bill be not 
now read a second time, but that it be read a second time this day six months 
hence. 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



Debate was resumed on the proposed motion of Mr. Pearson, seconded by 
Mr. Mcllraith, — That this House recognizes the need for improving its proce- 
dures to provide full opportunity for the critical examination of proposed 
legislation and to ensure the effective dispatch of public business; 

That this House agrees upon the need for allocating the time for the 
business of the House; and 

That, in order to secure improved examination of the details of legislation 
and of public spending, while maintaining the full authority of the House, this 
House agrees upon the value of making increased use of Standing Committees; 

That this House accordingly orders: 

1. That detailed examination of estimates, saving always the right 
of the Committee of Supply, be undertaken by Standing Committees 
and that not more than 36 days of the time of the House be allocated 
to the business of supply in each session. For the purpose of this order, 
the business of supply shall consist of proceedings on motions "That 
Mr. Speaker do now leave the Chair"; supplementary or additional 
estimates for the financial year; interim supply; and main estimates 
whether for the coming or the current financial year. That a Special 
Committee of the House, consisting of twenty-two members, to be 



144 HOUSE OF COMMONS May 25, 1965 

designated later by the House, be instructed to prepare and to submit 
to the House forthwith the changes in Standing Orders consequential 
upon this order, including any means of giving to the opposition an 
opportunity to select the departmental estimates to be discussed. 

2. That the Standing Orders be amended by adding thereto a new- 
Standing Order 15- A, to read as follows: 

Standing Order 15 -A 

15- A. (1) There shall be a Business Committee to which the leader 
of each party in the House from time to time by written notice to the 
Speaker may appoint one member. 

(2) During routine proceedings a Minister of the Crown may 
request that the question of allocation of time for consideration of any 
item of business or stage thereof be referred to the Business Committee 
for consideration and report, and upon such request being made such 
question shall stand referred to the committee. 

(3) The Business Committee shall report back to the House on or 
before the third sitting day following such request. 

(4) If the Chairman of the Business Committee reports that the 
Committee has unanimously recommended an allocation of time for 
the item of business or stage thereof, a Minister of the Crown may 
without notice propose a motion, to be decided without debate or amend- 
ment, for concurrence in the report, and, if agreed to, the motion shall 
have the same effect as if it were an order of the House. 

(5) If the Chairman of the Business Committee reports that the 
committee has been unable to reach a unanimous agreement or if the 
committee fails to report within the time specified by Section (3) of this 
Standing Order, a Minister of the Crown may give notice that at the 
next sitting of the House he will move that an order be made allocating 
the time for the item of business or stage thereof. 

(6) A motion of which a Minister has given notice under Section 
(5) of this Standing Order shall be made during routine proceedings. 
Unless the debate on the motion has been previously concluded, Mr. 
Speaker shall at fifteen minutes before the expiry of the time provided 
for Government business in such sitting, interrupt the proceedings and 
forthwith put every question necessary to dispose of the main motion. 
A motion requesting allocation of time, if agreed to, shall have the 
same effect as if it were an order of the House. 

And on the proposed motion of Mr. Knowles, seconded by Mr. Barnett, in 
amendment thereto, — That the Resolution be amended by deleting from para- 
graph 1 thereof the sentence which reads: "For the purpose of this order, 
the business of supply shall consist of proceedings on motions 'That Mr. Speaker 
do now leave the Chair'; supplementary or additional estimates for the financial 
year; interim supply; and main estimates whether for the coming or the cur- 
rent financial year"; and by substituting therefor the following sentence: "For 
the purpose of this order, the business of supply shall consist of interim supply 
and main estimates whether for the coming or the current financial year"; 



May 25, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 145 

And on the proposed motion of Mr. Olson, seconded by Mr. Frenette, in 

amendment to the said proposed amendment, — That the following be added 

after the words "current financial year" at the end of the proposed amendment: 

"Supplementary or additional estimates, excepting supplementary 

or additional estimates introduced after the main estimates have been 

approved, and excepting always the final supplementary or additional 

estimates." 

And debate continuing; the said debate was interrupted. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. MacEachen, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Report on 
the Government Annuities Act for the year ended March 31, 1965, pursuant to 
section 16 of the said Act, chapter 132, R.S.C., 1952. 

By Mr. Sharp, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Supplementary 
Report of the Canadian Wheat Board on the 1963-64 Pool Accounts for Wheat, 
Oats and Barley, certified by the Auditors, pursuant to section 7(2) of the 
Canadian Wheat Board Act, chapter 44, R.S.C., 1952. (English and French). 



At ten o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put until tomorrow at 2.30 o'clock p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



14 ELIZABETH II— A.D. 1965 147 



No. 29 

JOURNALS 



OF THE 



HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, WEDNESDAY, MAY 26, 1965. 

2.30 o'clock p.m. 



Prayers. 



Pursuant to Standing Order 39(4), the following Question was made an 
Order of the House for a Return, namely: 

No. 246 — Mr. Saltsman 

1. Are there any regulations concerning the overseas export of live horses 
destined for consumption as meat and, if so (a) in what form have such regu- 
lations been published (b) which branch of government is responsible for the 
administration thereof? 

2. Has the government received any complaints or representations con- 
cerning unsatisfactory handling of horses in this export trade and, if so, what is 
the extent and nature of such complaints or representations? 

Mr. Stewart, Parliamentary Secretary to the Secretary of State, presented, 
— Return to the foregoing Order. 



Mr. Pickersgill, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, laid before the 
House, — Copy of a Press Release concerning operating conditions at Halifax 
International Airport. 



Pursuant to provisional order adopted on April 20, 1964, it was ordered, — 
That there be laid before this House a copy of the names, by province, of 
all persons sentenced to preventative detention under section 660 of the Crim- 
inal Code in the past ten years; where, when and by whom they were sen- 
tenced; whether they were represented by counsel and, by whom; the past 



148 HOUSE OF COMMONS May 26, 1965 

records of all those sentenced; when the sentence was imposed following their 
conviction as habitual criminals; by whom they were sentenced and the loca- 
tion of the people concerned serving these sentences. — {Notice of Motion for 
the Production of Papers No. 15 — Mr. Orlikow). 



Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers No. 32 was allowed to stand 
at the request of the government. 



A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Senate had passed the following bills to which the concurrence of this House 
is desired: 

Bill S-5, An Act respecting Great Northern Railway Company and Great 
Northern Pacific & Burlington Lines, Inc. — Mr. Wahn. 

Bill S-7, An Act respecting Interprovincial Pipe Line Company. — Mr. 
Wahn. 

The said bills were deemed to have been read the first time and ordered 
for a second reading at the next sitting of the House pursuant to Standing 
Order 103(2). 



The House resumed debate on the proposed motion of Mr. Pearson, sec- 
onded by Mr. Mcllraith, — That this House recognizes the need for improving 
its procedures to provide full opportunity for the critical examination of pro- 
posed legislation and to ensure the eftective dispatch of public business; 

That this House agrees upon the need for allocating the time for the 
business of the House; and 

That, in order to secure improved examination of the details of legislation 
and of public spending, while maintaining the full authority of the House, this 
House agrees upon the value of making increased use of Standing Committees; 

That this House accordingly orders: 

1. That detailed examination of estimates, saving always the right 
of the Committee of Supply, be undertaken by Standing Committees 
and that not more than 36 days of the time of the House be allocated 
to the business of supply in each session. For the purpose of this order, 
the business of supply shall consist of proceedings on motions "That 
Mr. Speaker do now leave the Chair"; supplementary or additional 
estimates for the financial year; interim supply; and main estimates 
whether for the coming or the current financial year. That a Special 
Committee of the House, consisting of twenty-two members, to be 
designated later by the House, be instructed to prepare and to submit 
to the House forthwith the changes in Standing Orders consequential 
upon this order, including any means of giving to the opposition an 
opportunity to select the departmental estimates to be discussed. 

2. That the Standing Orders be amended by adding thereto a new 
Standing Order 15- A, to read as follows: 

Standing Order 15- A 

15- A. (1) There shall be a Business Committee to which the leader 
of each party in the House from time to time by written notice to the 
Speaker may appoint one member. 



May 26, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 149 

(2) During routine proceedings a Minister of the Crown may 
request that the question of allocation of time for consideration of any 
item of business or stage thereof be referred to the Business Committee 
for consideration and report, and upon such request being made such 
question shall stand referred to the committee. 

(3) The Business Committee shall report back to the House on or 
before the third sitting day following such request. 

(4) If the Chairman of the Business Committee reports that the 
Committee has unanimously recommended an allocation of time for 
the item of business or stage thereof, a Minister of the Crown may 
without notice propose a motion, to be decided without debate or amend- 
ment, for concurrence in the report, and, if agreed to, the motion shall 
have the same effect as if it were an order of the House. 

(5) If the Chairman of the Business Committee reports that the 
committee has been unable to reach a unanimous agreement or if the 
committee fails to report within the time specified by Section (3) of this 
Standing Order, a Minister of the Crown may give notice that at the 
next sitting of the House he will move that an order be made allocating 
the time for the item of business or stage thereof. 

(6) A motion of which a Minister has given notice under Section 
(5) of this Standing Order shall be made during routine proceedings. 
Unless the debate on the motion has been previously concluded, Mr. 
Speaker shall at fifteen minutes before the expiry of the time provided 
for Government business in such sitting, interrupt the proceedings and 
forthwith put every question necessary to dispose of the main motion. 
A motion requesting allocation of time, if agreed to, shall have the 
same effect as if it were an order of the House. 

And on the proposed motion of Mr. Knowles, seconded by Mr. Barnett, in 
amendment thereto, — That the Resolution be amended by deleting from para- 
graph 1 thereof the sentence which reads: "For the purpose of this order, 
the business of supply shall consist of proceedings on motions 'That Mr. Speaker 
do now leave the Chair'; supplementary or additional estimates for the financial 
year; interim supply; and main estimates whether for the coming or the cur- 
rent financial year"; and by substituting therefor the following sentence: "For 
the purpose of this order, the business of supply shall consist of interim supply 
and main estimates w^hether for the coming or the current financial year"; 

And on the proposed motion of Mr. Olson, seconded by Mr. Frenette, in 
amendment to the said proposed amendment, — That the following be added 
after the words "current financial year" at the end of the proposed amendment: 

"Supplementary or additional estimates, excepting supplementary 
or additional estimates introduced after the main estimates have been 
approved, and excepting always the final supplementary or additional 
estimates." 

And debate continuing; the said debate was interrupted. 



150 HOUSE OF COMMONS May 26, 1965 

\_At 5.0d o'clock p.m.. Private Members' Business was called pursuant ta 

Standing Order 15 (2) '\ 

(Notices of Motions) 

Item No. 6 under this heading having been called a second time was, by 
unanimous consent, allowed to stand and retain its position on the Order Paper. 



Mr. Hahn, seconded by Mr. Mullally, moved, — That, in the opinion of this 
House, the government should give consideration to the advisability of helping 
industry finance the capital works necessary to minimize pollution of water and 
air caused by industrial wastes; this financial help to take the form of special 
depreciation allowances on equipment and installations provided for the above 
purpose. — (Notice of Motion No. 8). 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Hays, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Capital Budget of 
the Farm Credit Corporation for the year ending March 31, 1966, pursuant to 
section 80(2) of the Financial Administration Act, chapter 116, R.S.C., 1952, 
together with a copy of Order in Council P.C. 1965 — 689, dated April 14, 1965, 
approving same. 

By Mr. Lamontagne, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Return to 
an Order of the House, dated May 12, 1965, for a copy of all correspondence ex- 
changed between the Canadian National Pensions Association and the Prime 
Minister since May 1, 1963 regarding increased pension benefits for retired 
C.N.R. employees. — (Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers No. 21). 



At six o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put until tomorrow at 2.30 o'clock p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



14 ELIZABETH II— A.D. 1965 151 



No. 30 

JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, THURSDAY, MAY 27, 1965. 



2.30 o'clock p.m. 

Prayers. 

A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Senate had passed Bill C-104, An Act to amend the National Housing Act, 1954, 
without amendment. 



Mr. Peters, seconded by Mr. Prittie, by leave of the House, introduced 
Bill C-107, An Act to amend the British North America Acts, 1867 to 1964 
(Duration of House of Commons), which was read the first time and ordered 
for a second reading at the next sitting of the House. 



Mr. Pearson, seconded by Mr. McUraith, moved, — That the House do go 
into Committee of the Whole at its next sitting to consider the following 
proposed resolution which has been recommended to the House by His Excel- 
lency: — 

That it is expedient to introduce a measure to establish a Science Council 
of Canada and to define the duties thereof; to provide for the appointment 
of the chairman and other members of the Council and for the payment of 
the remuneration of the chairman, the travelling and living expenses of the 
members and associate members of the Council and the remuneration of mem- 
bers performing duties in addition to their regular duties; and to provide further 
that all expenditures for the purposes of the said measure shall be paid out 
of moneys appropriated by Parliament therefor. 

Resolved, — That the House do go into Committee of the Whole at its next 
sitting to consider the said proposed resolution. 



152 HOUSE OF COMMONS May 27, 1965 

Mr. Drury, seconded by Mr. Mcllraith, moved, — That the House do go into 
Committee of the Whole at its next sitting to consider the following proposed 
resolution which has been recommended to the House by His Excellency: — 

That it is expedient to introduce a measure to amend the Research Council 
Act to change the formal title of the National Research Council; to provide 
that members of the Council, other than the President or a Vice President may, 
during any period in which they perform duties on behalf of the Council in 
addition to their ordinary duties, be paid such remuneration therefor as the 
Council may authorize; to authorize the appointment of persons to perform 
duties of a temporary nature for a period of not more than six months; to 
authorize the Council to operate and maintain a national science library; and 
to provide further for certain changes in consequence thereof and also in 
connection with the administration of the Act. 

Resolved, — That the House do go into Committee of the Whole at its next 
sitting to consider the said proposed resolution. 



The House resumed debate on the proposed motion of Mr. Pearson, seconded 
by Mr. Mcllraith, — That this House recognizes the need for improving its 
procedures to provide full opportunity for the critical examination of proposed 
legislation and to ensure the effective dispatch of public business; 

That this House agrees upon the need for allocating the time for the 
business of the House; and 

That, in order to secure improved examination of the details of legislation 
and of public spending, while maintaining the full authority of the House, this 
House agrees upon the value of making increased use of Standing Committees; 

That this House accordingly orders: 

1. That detailed examination of estimates, saving always the right 
of the Committee of Supply, be undertaken by Standing Committees 
and that not more than 36 days of the time of the House be allocated 
to the business of supply in each session. For the purpose of this order, 
the business of supply shall consist of proceedings on motions "That 
Mr. Speaker do now leave the Chair"; supplementary or additional 
estimates for the financial year; interim supply; and main estimates 
whether for the coming or the current financial year. That a Special 
Committee of the House, consisting of twenty-two members, to be 
designated later by the House, be instructed to prepare and to submit 
to the House forthwith the changes in Standing Orders consequential 
upon this order, including any means of giving to the opposition an 
opportunity to select the departmental estimates to be discussed. 

2. That the Standing Orders be amended by adding thereto a new 
Standing Order 15- A, to read as follows: 

Standing Order 15- A 

15- A. (1) There shall be a Business Committee to which the leader 
of each party in the House from time to time by written notice to the 
Speaker may appoint one member. 

(2) During routine proceedings a Minister of the Crown may 
request that the question of allocation of time for consideration of any 



May 27, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 153 

item of business or stage thereof be referred to the Business Committee 
for consideration and report, and upon such request being made such 
question shall stand referred to the committee. 

(3) The Business Committee shall report back to the House on or 
before the third sitting day following such request. 

(4) If the Chairman of the Business Committee reports that the 
Committee has unanimously recommended an allocation of time for 
the item of business or stage thereof, a Minister of the Crown may 
without notice propose a motion, to be decided without debate or amend- 
ment, for concurrence in the report, and, if agreed to, the motion shall 
have the same effect as if it were an order of the House. 

(5) If the Chairman of the Business Committee reports that the 
committee has been unable to reach a unanimous agreement or if the 
committee fails to report within the time specified by Section (3) of this 
Standing Order, a Minister of the Crown may give notice that at the 
next sitting of the House he will move that an order be made allocating 
the time for the item of business or stage thereof. 

(6) A motion of which a Minister has given notice under Section 
(5) of this Standing Order shall be made during routine proceedings. 
Unless the debate on the motion has been previously concluded, Mr. 
Speaker shall at fifteen minutes before the expiry of the time provided 
for Government business in such sitting, interrupt the proceedings and 
forthwith put every question necessary to dispose of the main motion. 
A motion requesting allocation of time, if agreed to, shall have the 
same effect as if it were an order of the House; 

And on the proposed motion of Mr. Knowles, seconded by Mr. Barnett, in 
amendment thereto, — That the Resolution be amended by deleting from para- 
graph 1 thereof the sentence which reads: "For the purpose of this order, 
the business of supply shall consist of proceedings on motions 'That Mr. Speaker 
do now leave the Chair'; supplementary or additional estimates for the financial 
year; interim supply; and main estimates whether for the coming or the cur- 
rent financial year"; and by substituting therefor the following sentence: "For 
the purpose of this order, the business of supply shall consist of interim supply 
and main estimates whether for the coming or the current financial year"; 

And on the proposed motion of Mr. Olson, seconded by Mr. Frenette, in 
amendment to the said proposed amendment, — That the following be added 
after the words "current financial year" at the end of the proposed amendment: 

"Supplementary or additional estimates, excepting supplementary 
or additional estimates introduced after the main estimates have been 
approved, and excepting always the final supplementary or additional 
estimates." 

And debate continuing; 



154 HOUSE OF COMMONS May 27, 1965 

[At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Private Members' Business was called pursuant to 

Standing Order 15{2)'\ 

(Private Bills) 

The House resumed debate on the proposed motion of Mr. Basford, seconded 
by Mr. Whelan, — That Bill C-95, An Act to incorporate Laurentide Bank of 
Canada, be now read a second time; 

And on the proposed motion of Mr. Belanger, seconded by Mr. Latulippe, 
in amendment thereto, — That the said Bill be not now read a second time, but 
that it be read a second time this day six months hence. 

And debate continuing; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



Debate was resumed on the proposed motion of Mr. Pearson, seconded by 
Mr. Mcllraith, — That this House recognizes the need for improving its proce- 
dures to provide full opportunity for the critical examination of proposed 
legislation and to ensure the effective dispatch of public business; 

That this House agrees upon the need for allocating the time for the 
business of the House; and 

That, in order to secure improved examination of the details of legislation 
and of public spending, while maintaining the full authority of the House, this 
House agrees upon the value of making increased use of Standing Committees; 

That this House accordingly orders: 

1. That detailed examination of estimates, saving always the right 
of the Committee of Supply, be undertaken by Standing Committees 
and that not more than 36 days of the time of the House be allocated 
to the business of supply in each session. For the purpose of this order, 
the business of supply shall consist of proceedings on motions "That 
Mr. Speaker do now leave the Chair"; supplementary or additional 
estimates for the financial year; interim supply; and main estimates 
whether for the coming or the current financial year. That a Special 
Committee of the House, consisting of twenty-two members, to be 
designated later by the House, be instructed to prepare and to submit 
to the House forthwith the changes in Standing Orders consequential 
upon this order, including any means of giving to the opposition an 
opportunity to select the departmental estimates to be discussed. 

2. That the Standing Orders be amended by adding thereto a new 
Standing Order 15- A, to read as follows: 

Standing Order 15- A 

15- A. (1) There shall be a Business Committee to which the leader 
of each party in the House from time to time by written notice to the 
Speaker may appoint one member. 

(2) During routine proceedings a Minister of the Crown may 
request that the question of allocation of time for consideration of any 
item of business or stage thereof be referred to the Business Committee 
for consideration and report, and upon such request being made such 
question shall stand referred to the committee. 



May 27, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 155 

(3) The Business Committee shall report back to the House on or 
before the third sitting day following such request. 

(4) If the Chairman of the Business Committee reports that the 
Committee has unanimously recommended an allocation of time for 
the item of business or stage thereof, a Minister of the Crown may 
without notice propose a motion, to be decided without debate or amend- 
ment, for concurrence in the report, and, if agreed to, the motion shall 
have the same effect as if it were an order of the House. 

(5) If the Chairman of the Business Committee reports that the 
committee has been unable to reach a unanimous agreement or if the 
committee fails to report within the time specified by Section (3) of this 
Standing Order, a Minister of the Crown may give notice that at the 
next sitting of the House he will move that an order be made allocating 
the time for the item of business or stage thereof. 

(6) A motion of which a Minister has given notice under Section 
(5) of this Standing Order shall be made during routine proceedings. 
Unless the debate on the motion has been previously concluded, Mr. 
Speaker shall at fifteen minutes before the expiry of the time provided 
for Government business in such sitting, interrupt the proceedings and 
forthwith put every question necessary to dispose of the main motion. 
A motion requesting allocation of time, if agreed to, shall have the 
same effect as if it were an order of the House; 

And on the proposed motion of Mr. Knowles, seconded by Mr. Barnett, in 
amendment thereto, — That the Resolution be amended by deleting from para- 
graph 1 thereof the sentence which reads: "For the purpose of this order, 
the business of supply shall consist of proceedings on motions 'That Mr. Speaker 
do now leave the Chair'; supplementary or additional estimates for the financial 
year; interim supply; and main estimates whether for the coming or the cur- 
rent financial year"; and by substituting therefor the following sentence: "For 
the purpose of this order, the business of supply shall consist of interim supply 
and main estimates whether for the coming or the current financial year"; 

And on the proposed motion of Mr. Olson, seconded by Mr. Frenette, in 
amendment to the said proposed amendment, — That the following be added 
after the words "current financial year" at the end of the proposed amendment: 

"Supplementary or additional estimates, excepting supplementary 
or additional estimates introduced after the main estimates have been 
approved, and excepting always the final supplementary or additional 
estimates." 

After further debate; the said proposed sub- amendment and amendment 
were, by unanimous consent, withdrawn. 

Whereupon Mr. MacEachen, seconded by Mr. MacNaught, moved, — That 
the following amendments be made to the proposed motion of the Prime 
Minister: 

1. That the numbered paragraph 1 be amended to read as follows: 

1. (a) That detailed examination of estimates, saving always the 
right of the Committee of Supply, be undertaken by Standing Commit- 

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156 HOUSE OF COMMONS May 27, 1965 

tees and that not more than 30 days of the time of the House be allocated 
to the business of supply in each session. For the purpose of this order, 
the business of supply shall consist of main estimates; interim supply; 
and supplementary or additional estimates excepting supplementary or 
additional estimates introduced after the main estimates have been 
approved, and excepting always the final supplementary or additional 
estimates; 

(b) That the number of supply motions be reduced from six to 
four; and 

(c) That a Special Committee of the House, consisting of twenty- 
four members, to be designated later by the House, be instructed to 
prepare and to submit to the House forthwith the changes in Standing 
Orders consequential upon these orders, including any means of giving 
to the opposition an opportunity to select the departmental estimates 
to be discussed. 

2. That Standing Order 15A be amended by adding at the end thereof 
the following sections: 

(7) No motion made by a Minister under Sections (5) and (6) of 
this Standing Order shall provide for the allocation of a period of time 
shorter than two days for the second reading, two days for the com- 
mittee stage, and one day for the third reading of any bill. For the 
purposes of this section, third reading shall be deemed to have been 
considered for one day provided the order for third reading is called 
as the first item under Government Orders on a Monday, Tuesday, 
Thursday or Friday, and provided it is continued, if necessary, until 
the normal time of adjournment on any such day; provided that, if a rep- 
resentative of each party has not spoken, the hour for the adjournment of 
the sitting shall be extended until a representative of each party has 
had an opportunity to speak. Such an order having been called on any 
Monday, Tuesday, Thursday or Friday, it shall have precedence over 
all other business until the time of adjournment on that day, unless it 
is disposed of earlier. Under any other circumstances, a total of five hours 
shall be deemed to be the equivalent of one sitting day. 

(8) During debate on any item of business or stage thereof for 
which an allocation of time has been made under this Standing Order, 
if an amendment is proposed which in the opinion of Mr. Speaker 
materially changes the item of business or stage thereof and which 
raises any issue for which in the opinion of Mr. Speaker there has not 
been or otherwise will not be an adequate opportunity for discussion, 
Mr. Speaker may announce an extension of not more than two days to 
the allocated period of time. 

3. That the orders of this House under numbered paragraph 1, the changes 
in Standing Orders consequential upon these Orders, and the new Standing 
Order 15A be continued in effect until the end of the next ensuing session, 
unless this House otherwise orders. 

After debate thereon; the question being put on the said proposed amend- 
ment, it was agreed to. 

And debate continuing on the main motion, as amended; 

Mr. Coates seconded by Mr. Aiken proposed to move in amendment thereto; 
That the Resolution be amended by adding immediately after the words "Stand- 
ing Committees", in paragraph three thereof: 

"That this House agrees that the following proposals shall not 
become effective until a permanent Speaker shall have been appointed." 



May 27, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 157 



And a point of order arising thereon; 



RULING BY MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER 

Mr. Deputy Speaker: Perhaps the Chair might deal first of all with the 
argument put forward by the honourable Member for Parry Sound-Muskoka 
(Mr. Aiken) to the effect that this is a reasoned amendment. If the honourable 
Member will consult the authorities he will find that this rule applies only to 
bills. If he were able to find one precedent indicating that it also applies to 
resolutions his submission might be considered by the Chair. In any event a 
reasoned amendment involves a negation of the principle. There is no negation 
of the principle in this case, merely a suggestion that there should be a post- 
ponement of the application of the principle contained in the resolution. 
Furthermore, a reasoned amendment must still be relevant to the main proposi- 
tion it seeks to amend and there are very serious doubts as to whether this 
amendment is really relevant. I would refer honourable Members to Beauchesne's 
4th edition citation 203(1) "It is an imperative rule that every amendment must 
be relevant to the question on which it is proposed." 

I believe the honourable Member for Port Arthur (Mr. Fisher) referred 
the Chair to citation 203(3) : "An amendment setting forth a proposition dealing 
with a matter which is foreign to the proposition involved in the main motion 
is not relevant and may not be moved." 

My suggestion is that the main motion deals with certain limited matters, 
the time allocation and supply procedures, and that the submission made by the 
honourable member for Cumberland (Mr. Coates) goes beyond the terms of 
this proposition. 

Finally I would suggest that this amendment is in the nature of an ex- 
panded negative. I would refer the honourable Member to May's 17th edition 
at page 418 where the learned author says that Mr. Speaker in certain instances 
has ruled that an amendment which was merely an expanded negative could 
not be put from the Chair. 

For these reasons I regretfully rule that the amendment proposed by the 
honourable Member for Cumberland cannot be accepted. 



And debate continuing on the main motion, as amended; 

Mr. Brewin, seconded by Mr. Webster moved, — That the resolution as 
amended be further amended by inserting in paragraph 2 thereof, immediately 
after sub-paragraph (8) of the proposed Standing Order 15 A, the following 
sub-paragraph: 

"(9) That in the event of an Order of the House being made for 
the allocation of time under the provisions hereof, notwithstanding the 
provisions of any other Standing Order, no Member except the Prime 
Minister, the Leader of any recognized Party in the House or a Minister 
moving a Government Order and the Member speaking in reply im- 
mediately after such Minister, shall speak for more than twenty (20) 
minutes and no Member shall speak for more than forty (40) minutes 
at any time in such a debate." 

And debate arising thereon; the said debate was interrupted. 

(Proceedings on Adjournnnent Motion) 

At 10.02 o'clock p.m., the question "That this House do now adjourn" 
was deemed to have been proposed pursuant to provisional Standing Order 39-A; 

After debate thereon, the said question was deemed to have been adopted. 

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Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following paper having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
was laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Sharp, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Order in Council 
P.C. 1965-787, dated April 29, 1965, authorizing under section 21 of the Export 
Credits Insurance Act, contracts of insurance by the Export Credits Insurance 
Corporation for shipment of 210,000 metric tons of wheat to the Czechoslovak 
Socialist Republic, pursuant to section 21b of the said Act, chapter 105, R.S.C, 
1952, as amended 1960-61. 



At 10.28 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow 
at 11.00 o'clock a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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No. 31 

JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, FRIDAY, MAY 28, 1965. 



11.00 o'clock a.m. 

Prayers. 

Mr. Knowles, seconded by Mr. Barnett, by leave of the House, introduced 
Bill C-108, An Act to amend the Industrial Relations and Disputes Investiga- 
tion Act (Voluntary revocable check-off), which was read the first time and 
ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House. 



Mr. Mather, seconded by Mr. Barnett, by leave of the House, introduced 
Bill C-109, An Act to amend the Immigration Act (Mental Retardation), which 
was read the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of 
the House. 



The honourable Member for Compton-Frontenac (Mr. Latulippe), having 
risen in his place, requested that the Clerk of the House read a petition from 
"La Societe Marquette Inc.", presented to the House on May 18, 1965. 

STATEMENT BY MR. SPEAKER 

Mr. Speaker: It does seem to the Chair that perhaps the Chair should 
give a short caveat a short explanation, for the purposes of the record. As 
recorded at page 121 of Votes and Proceedings of May 18, 1965, a petition from 
La Societe Marquette, Inc., Montreal, P.Q., dated May 18, 1965, was filed with 
the Clerk of the House on that date pursuant to Standing Order 70(1). On 
the day following the presentation the Clerk of the House laid upon the Table, 
in the manner prescribed by Standing Order 40, a report of the Clerk of 
Petitions to the effect that the said petition met the requirements of Standing 
Order 70. This comes from pages 129 and 130 of Votes and Proceedings of May 
19, 1965. 



160 HOUSE OF COMMONS May 28, 1965 

Pursuant to paragraphs (7) and (8) of Standing Order 70, "Every petition 
so reported upon, not containing matter in breach of the privileges of this 
House and which, according to the Standing Orders or practice of this House, 
can be received, shall then be deemed to be read and received". However, a 
petition "may be read by the Clerk of the House at the Table, if required". 
As stated in citation 343 of Beauchesne's fourth edition: "Whilst a Member 
has clearly a right to ask that a petition be read, it is a privilege, like many 
others, subject to the approval of the House itself. In case of opposition, the 
Speaker will put a motion formally to the House." 

It would seem to me that the proper time for a request to have a petition 
read by the Clerk of the House at the Table would be when the report of the 
Clerk of Petitions is presented; otherwise it is deemed to have been read. May 
I be permitted to add that, this petition having been filed with the Clerk 
of the House late in the day, a very short time was available between its 
presentation and the tabling of the report of the Clerk of Petitions. A closer 
look at the petition would seem to reveal that it should perhaps not have 
been received, as the granting of the Prayer thereof would involve the expendi- 
ture of public moneys and, according to its terms, purports to give the Govern- 
ment a direct order to do a thing which cannot be done without the expenditure 
of money. I must, however, take into consideration that a point of order in 
this regard should quite probably have been raised at the time the Petition 
was reported upon and it may be found advisable to leave the matter as it 
stands in the present case. 

With regard to the reading of the Petitions by the Clerk of the House at 
the Table, it is my view that the request should be made when the report of 
the Clerk of Petitions is presented and the Petition received, since at that time 
it is deemed to have been read unless otherwise requested. Taking into con- 
sideration, however, that Petitions are of relatively rare occurrence in modern 
Parliamentary practice and that there could have been a misunderstanding 
in that regard on the part of the honourable Member for Compton-Frontenac 
(Mr. Latulippe), who presented the Petition in question, and also with a 
view of not depriving a Member of a privilege on technical grounds, without 
creating a precedent for the future I am asking whether it is the pleasure of 
the House that such Petition be now read by the Clerk of the House at the 
Table. 



Whereupon, the said petition was read by the Clerk of the House, and is 
as follows: 

To the honourable the House of Commons of Canada, assembled in Parlia- 
ment: 

The petition of the Undersigned: "La Societe Marquette, Inc.": Francis 
Loiselle, President, Mary Pertz, Secretary, Gedeon Gauthier, Director, respect- 
fully submits: 

That the Government of Canada can and must guarantee all children in 
Canada under 16 years of age the sum of $30 per month, as a "Basic Personal 
Right". 

That the Government of Canada can and should guarantee this sum of 
$30 per month per child under 16, as of the month of July 1965, this being the 
20th anniversary of the first Family Allowances, instituted by our Government 
in accordance with Ch. 109 of the year 1944-1945. 

That the Government of Canada can and must in this way re-establish the 
national economic balance between the "Basic Personal Right" of children 
under 16, and all the other sectors of the economy which have advanced 4, 8, 
10 or 12 times since 1944-1945, in the 20 years following the end of the War 
and the beginning of children's allowances for children under 16. 



May 28, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 161 

Therefore the undersigned humbly beseech your honourable House to give 
effect to this present petition. 

And your Petitioner, as is his duty, will not cease from entreating you: 

"La Societe Marquette, Inc.". 

Francis Loiselle, 
President 

Mary Pertz, 

^, ^ , . Secretary 

5341 Park Avenue, 

Montreal 8, Canada. Gedeon Gauthier, 

18 May 1965. Director. 

(Seal) 



The House resolved itself again into Committee of Supply. 

(In the Committee) 
The following resolution was adopted: 

INTERIM SUPPLY 

Resolved, — That a sum not exceeding $380,770,370.34, being the aggregate 
of— 

(a) one- twelfth of the total of all of the Items set forth in the 
Main Estimates for the fiscal year ending 31st March, 1966, laid before 
the House of Commons at the present session of Parliament, $365,219,- 
237.00; 

(b) an additional eight-twelfths of the amount of Mines and Technical 
Surveys Item 70 (Schedule A) of the said Main Estimates, $400,000.00; 

(c) an additional four-twelfths of the amount of Northern Affairs 
and National Resources Item 5 (Schedule B) of the said Main Estimates, 
$2,221,666.67; 

(d) an additional one-twelfth of the total of the amounts of Finance 
Item 15, Fisheries Items 5 and 20, Forestry Item 15, Labour Item 15, 
Northern Affairs and National Resources Item 1 (Schedule C) of the 
said Main Estimates, $12,929,466.67, 

be granted to Her Majesty on account of the fiscal year ending 31st March, 1966. 

Resolution to be reported. 



The said resolution was reported and concurred in and the Committee 
of Supply obtained leave to sit again later this day. 



The House resolved itself again into Committee of Ways and Means. 

(In the Committee) 
The following resolution was adopted: 

Resolved, — That towards making good the Supply granted to Her Majesty 
on account of certain expenses of the public service for the fiscal year ending 



162 HOUSE OF COMMONS May 28, 1965 

31st March, 1966, the sum of $380,770,370.34 be granted out of the Consolidated 
Revenue Fund of Canada, as set forth in the Resolution concurred in this day 
in the Committee of Supply. 

Resolution to be reported. 



The said resolution was reported and concurred in, and the Committee of 
Ways and Means obtained leave to sit again at the next sitting of the House. 



Mr. Mcllraith, seconded by Mr. Pickersgill, by leave of the House presented 
Bill C-110, An Act for granting to Her Majesty certain sums of money for the 
public service for the financial year ending the 31st March 1966, which was 
read the first time. 

By unanimous consent, the said bill was read the second time, considered 
in Committee of the Whole, reported without amendment, read the third time 
and passed. 



The House resolved itself again into Committee of Supply, and progress 
having been made and reported the Committee obtained leave to sit again 
later this day. 



A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Senate had passed Bill S-8, An Act to amend the Central Mortgage and 
Housing Corporation Act, to which the concurrence of this House is desired. 



A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Senate had passed the following bill to which concurrence of this House is 
desired: 

Bill S-9, An Act to incorporate Principal Life Insurance Company of 
Canada. — Mr. Lambert. 

The said bill was deemed to have been read the first time and ordered 
for a second reading at the next sitting of the House pursuant to Standing 
Order 103(2). 



By unanimous consent, the hour for Private Members' Business was 
suspended. 



The House resolved itself again into Committee of Supply and progress 
having been made and reported the Committee obtained leave to sit again 
at the next sitting of the House. 



By unanimous consent, the House reverted to "Motions". 



May 28, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 163 

On motion of Mr. MacNaught, seconded by Mr. Teillet, it was ordered, — 
That the Items listed in the Main Estimates for 1965-66, relating to the Depart- 
ment of External Affairs, presented to this House on May 11, 1965, be with- 
drawn from the Committee of Supply and referred to the Standing Committee 
on External Affairs, or to the proposed Committee on External Affairs, as the 
case may be, saving always the powers of the Committee of Supply in relation 
to the voting of public monies. 



At 6.05 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put until Monday at 2.30 o'clock p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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No. 32 

JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, MONDAY, MAY 31, 1965. 



2.30 o'clock p.m. 

Prayers. 

Out of respect and in tribute to the memory of the Honourable George 
Clyde Nowlan, P.C., Q.C., Member for Digby-Annapolis-Kings, on motion of 
the Right Honourable the Prime Minister, seconded by the Right Honourable 
the Leader of the Opposition, the House adjourned at 3.05 o'clock p.m. until 
tomorrow at 2.30 o'clock p.m. 



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No. 33 

JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, TUESDAY, JUNE 1, 1965. 



2.30 o'clock p.m. 
Prayers. 

Two petitions for Private Bills were presented in accordance with Standing 
Order 70(1). 



Mr. Temple, seconded by Mr. Chretien, by leave of the House, introduced 
Bill C-111, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (Abolition of Capital Punish- 
ment), which was read the first time and ordered for a second reading at the 
next sitting of the House. 



The following bill from the Senate was read the first time and ordered for 
a second reading at the next sitting of the House: 

Bill S-8, An Act to amend the Central Mortgage and Housing Corporation 
Act. — Mr. Nicholson. 



The House resumed debate on the amended proposed motion of Mr. Pearson, 
seconded by Mr. Mcllraith, — That this House recognizes the need for improving 
its procedures to provide full opportunity for the critical examination of 
proposed legislation and to ensure the effective dispatch of public business; 

That this House agrees upon the need for allocating the time for the 
business of the House; and 

That, in order to secure improved examination of the details of legislation 
and of public spending, while maintaining the full authority of the House, this 
House agrees upon the value of making increased use of Standing Committees; 

That this House accordingly orders: 

1. (a) That detailed examination of estimates, saving always the right 
of the Committee of Supply, be undertaken by Standing Committees 



168 HOUSE OF COMMONS June 1, 1965 

£ind that not more than 30 days of the time of the House be allocated 
to the business of supply in each session. For the purpose of this order 
the business of supply shall consist of main estimates; interim supply; 
and supplementary or additional estimates excepting supplementary or 
additional estimates introduced after the main estimates have been 
approved, and excepting always the final supplementary or additional 
estimates; 

(b) That the number of supply motions be reduced from six to four; 
and 

(c) That a Special Committee of the House, consisting of twenty- 
four members, to be designated later by the House, be instructed to 
prepare and to submit to the House forthwith the changes in Standing 
Orders consequential upon these orders, including any means of giving 
to the opposition an opportunity to select the departmental estimates 
to be discussed. 

2. That the Standing Orders be amended by adding thereto a new 
Standing Order 15- A, to read as follows: 

Standing Order 15- A 

15- A. (1) There shall be a Business Committee to which the leader 
of each party in the House from time to time by written notice to the 
Speaker may appoint one member. 

(2) During routine proceedings a Minister of the Crown may 
request that the question of allocation of time for consideration of any 
item of business or stage thereof be referred to the Business Committee 
for consideration and report, and upon such request being made such 
question shall stand referred to the committee. 

(3) The Business Committee shall report back to the House on or 
before the third sitting day following such request. 

(4) If the Chairman of the Business Committee reports that the 
Committee has unanimously recommended an allocation of time for 
the item of business or stage thereof, a Minister of the Crown may 
without notice propose a motion, to be decided without debate or amend- 
ment, for concurrence in the report, and, if agreed to, the motion shall 
have the same effect as if it were an order of the House. 

(5) If the Chairman of the Business Committee reports that the 
committee has been unable to reach a unanimous agreement or if the 
committee fails to report within the time specified by Section (3) of this 
Standing Order, a Minister of the Crown may give notice that at the 
next sitting of the House he will move that an order be made allocating 
the time for the item of business or stage thereof. 

(6) A motion of which a Minister has given notice under Section 
(5) of this Standing Order shall be made during routine proceedings. 

' Unless the debate on the motion has been previously concluded, Mr. 

Speaker shall at fifteen minutes before the expiry of the time provided 
for Government business in such sitting, interrupt the proceedings and 
forthwith put every question necessary to dispose of the main motion. 
A motion requesting allocation of time, if agreed to, shall have the 

,1 same effect as if it were an order of the House. 



June 1, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 169 

(7) No motion made by a Minister under Sections (5) and (6) of 
this Standing Order shall provide for the allocation of a period of time 
shorter than two days for the second reading, two days for the com- 
mittee stage, and one day for the third reading of any bill. For the 
purposes of this section, third reading shall be deemed to have been 
considered for one day provided the order for third reading is called 
as the first item under Government Orders on a Monday, Tuesday, Thurs- 
day or Friday, and provided it is continued, if necessary, until the normal 
time of adjournment on any such day; provided that if a representative 
of each party has not spoken, the hour for the adjournment of the 
sitting shall be extended until a representative of each party has had 
an opportunity to speak. Such an order having been called on any 
Monday, Tuesday, Thursday or Friday, it shall have precedence over all 
other business until the time of adjournment on that day, unless it 
is disposed of earlier. Under any other circumstances, a total of five 
hours shall be deemed to be the equivalent of one sitting day. 

(8) During debate on any item of business or stage thereof for 
which an allocation of time has been made under this Standing Order, 
if an amendment is proposed which in the opinion of Mr. Speaker 
materially changes the item of business or stage thereof and which 
raises any issue for which in the opinion of Mr. Speaker there has not 
been or otherwise will not be an adequate opportunity for discussion, 
Mr. Speaker may announce an extension of not more than two days to 
the allocated period of time. 

3. That the orders of this House under numbered paragraph 1, the 
changes in Standing Orders consequential upon these Orders, and the 
new Standing Order 15 A be continued in effect until the end of the 
next ensuing session, unless this House otherwise orders. 

And on the proposed motion of Mr. Brewin, seconded by Mr. Webster, 
in amendment thereto, — That the resolution as amended be further amended 
by inserting in paragraph 2 thereof, immediately after sub-paragraph (8) of 
the proposed Standing Order 15 A, the following sub-paragraph: 

"(9) That in the event of an Order of the House being made for 
the allocation of time under the provisions hereof, notwithstanding the 
provisions of any other Standing Order, no Member except the Prime 
Minister, the Leader of any recognized Party in the House or a Minister 
moving a Government Order and the Member speaking in reply im- 
mediately after such Minister, shall speak for more than twenty (20) 
minutes and no Member shall speak for more than forty (40) minutes 
at any time in such a debate.'* 

And debate continuing; 

Mr. Aiken, seconded by Mr. Grouse, moved in amendment to the said pro- 
posed amendment, — That the resolution be further amended by amending the 
amendment proposed by the honourable Member for Greenwood, seconded 
by the honourable Member for Vancouver-Kingsway, by striking out all the 
words after the words "Prime Minister" and substituting therefor the follow- 
ing: "the Leader of the Opposition, a Minister moving a Government Order 
and the Member speaking in reply immediately after such Minister shall speak 
for more than twenty minutes at any one time in such a debate". 

And debate arising thereon; 



170 HOUSE OF COMMONS June 1, 1965 

A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Senate had passed Bill C-110, An Act for granting to Her Majesty certain sums 
of money for the public service for the financial year ending the 31st March, 
1966. 



[At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Private Members' Business was called pursuant to 

Standing Order 15(3)] 

(Private Bills) 

The Order being read for the second reading of Bill S-4, An Act respecting 
The Algoma Central and Hudson Bay Railway Company; 

Mr. Nixon, seconded by Mr. Badanai, moved, — That the said bill be now 
read a second time. 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 

Accordingly, the said bill was read the second time and referred to the 
Standing Committee on Railways, Canals and Telegraph Lines or to the pro- 
posed Standing Committee on Transport and Communications, as the case 
may be. 



The Order being read for the second reading of Bill S-6, An Act respecting 
Muttart Mortgage Corporation; 

Mr. Wahn, seconded by Mr. Ryan, moved, — That the said bill be now read 
a second time. 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 

Accordingly, the said bill was read the second time and referred to the 
Standing Committee on Banking and Commerce or to the proposed Standing 
Committee on Finance, Trade and Economic Affairs, as the case may be. 



The House resumed debate on the proposed motion of Mrs. Konantz, 
seconded by Mr. Ryan, — That Bill C-99, An Act to incorporate Bank of West- 
ern Canada, be now read a second time. 

And on the proposed motion of Mr. Laprise, seconded by Mr. Perron, in 
amendment thereto, — That the said bill be not now read a second time, but 
that it be read a second time this day six months hence. 

And debate continuing; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



Debate was resumed on the proposed amended motion of Mr. Pearson, 
seconded by Mr. Mcllraith, — That this House recognizes the need for improving 
its procedures to provide full opportunity for the critical examination of 
proposed legislation and to ensure the effective dispatch of public business; 

That this House agrees upon the need for allocating the time for the 
business of the House; and 



June 1, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 171 

That, in order to secure improved examination of the details of legislation 
and of public spending, while maintaining the full authority of the House, this 
House agrees upon the value of making increased use of Standing Committees; 

That this House accordingly orders: 

1. (a) That detailed examination of estimates, saving always the right 
of the Committee of Supply, be undertaken by Standing Committees 
and that not more than 30 days of the time of the House be allocated 
to the business of supply in each session. For the purpose of this order 
the business of supply shall consist of main estimates; interim supply; 
and supplementary or additional estimates excepting supplementary or 
additional estimates introduced after the main estimates have been 
approved, and excepting alv/ays the final supplementary or additional 
estimates; 

(b) That the number of supply motions be reduced from six to four; 
and 

(c) That a Special Committee of the House, consisting of twenty- 
four members, to be designated later by the House, be instructed to 
prepare and to submit to the House forthwith the changes in Standing 
Orders consequential upon these orders, including any means of giving 
to the opposition an opportunity to select the departmental estimates 
to be discussed. 

2. That the Standing Orders be amended by adding thereto a new 
Standing Order 15- A, to read as follows: 

Standing Order 15- A 

15- A. (1) There shall be a Business Committee to which the leader 
of each party in the House from time to time by written notice to the 
Speaker may appoint one member. 

(2) During routine proceedings a Minister of the Crown may 
request that the question of allocation of time for consideration of any 
item of business or stage thereof be referred to the Business Committee 
for consideration and report, and upon such request being made such 
question shall stand referred to the committee. 

(3) The Business Committee shall report back to the House on or 
before the third sitting day following such request. 

(4) If the Chairman of the Business Committee reports that the 
Committee has unanimously recommended an allocation of time for 
the item of business or stage thereof, a Minister of the Crown may 
without notice propose a motion, to be decided without debate or amend- 
ment, for concurrence in the report, and, if agreed to, the motion shall 
have the same effect as if it were an order of the House. 

(5) If the Chairman of the Business Committee reports that the 
committee has been unable to reach a unanimous agreement or if the 
committee fails to report within the time specified by Section (3) of this 
Standing Order, a Minister of the Crown may give notice that at the 
next sitting of the House he will move that an order be made allocating 
the time for the item of business or stage thereof. 

(6) A motion of which a Minister has given notice under Section 
(5) of this Standing Order shall be made during routine proceedings. 
Unless the debate on the motion has been previously concluded, Mr. 



172 HOUSE OF COMMONS June 1, 1965 

Speaker shall at fifteen minutes before the expiry of the time provided 
for Government business in such sitting, interrupt the proceedings and 
forthwith put every question necessary to dispose of the main motion. 
A motion requesting allocation of time, if agreed to, shall have the 
same effect as if it were an order of the House. 

(7) No motion made by a Minister under Sections (5) and (6) of 
this Standing Order shall provide for the allocation of a period of time 
shorter than two days for the second reading, two days for the com- 
mittee stage, and one day for the third reading of any bill. For the 
purposes of this section, third reading shall be deemed to have been 
considered for one day provided the order for third reading is called 
as the first item under Government Orders on a Monday, Tuesday, Thurs- 
day or Friday, and provided it is continued, if necessary, until the normal 
time of adjournment on any such day; provided that if a representative 
of each party has not spoken, the hour for the adjournment of the 
sitting shall be extended until a representative of each party has had 
an opportunity to speak. Such an order having been called on any 
Monday, Tuesday, Thursday or Friday, it shall have precedence over all 
other business until the time of adjournment on that day, unless it 
is disposed of earlier. Under any other circumstances, a total of five 
hours shall be deemed to be the equivalent of one sitting day. 

(8) During debate on any item of business or stage thereof for 
which an allocation of time has been made under this Standing Order, 
if an amendment is proposed which in the opinion of Mr. Speaker 
materially changes the item of business or stage thereof and which 
raises any issue for which in the opinion of Mr. Speaker there has not 
been or otherwise will not be an adequate opportunity for discussion, 
Mr. Speaker may announce an extension of not more than two days to 
the allocated period of time. 

3. That the orders of this House under numbered paragraph 1, the 
changes in Standing Orders consequential upon these Orders, and the 
new Standing Order 15A be continued in effect until the end of the 
next ensuing session, unless this House otherwise orders. 

And on the proposed motion of Mr. Brewin, seconded by Mr. Webster, 
in amendment thereto, — That the resolution as amended be further amended 
by inserting in paragraph 2 thereof, immediately after sub-paragraph (8) of 
the proposed Standing Order 15 A, the following sub-paragraph: 

"(9) That in the event of an Order of the House being made for 
the allocation of time under the provisions hereof, notwithstanding the 
provisions of any other Standing Order, no Member except the Prime 
Minister, the Leader of any recognized Party in the House or a Minister 
moving a Government Order and the Member speaking in reply im- 
mediately aiter such Minister, shall speak for more than twenty (20) 
minutes and no Member shall speak for more than forty (40) minutes 
at any time in such a debate." 

And on the proposed motion of Mr. Aiken, seconded by Mr, Grouse, in 
amendment to the said proposed amendment, — That the resolution be further 
amended by amending the amendment proposed by the honourable Member for 
Greenwood, seconded by the honourable Member for Vancouver-Kingsway, by 



June 1, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 173 

striking out all the words after the words "Prime Minister" and substituting 
therefor the following: "the Leader of the Opposition, a Minister moving a 
Government Order and the Member speaking in reply immediately after such 
Minister shall speak for more than twenty minutes at any one time in such a 
debate". 

And debate continuing; the said debate was interrupted. 



(Proceedings on Adjournment Motion) 

At 10.02 o'clock p.m., the question "That this House do now adjourn" 
was deemed to have been proposed pursuant to provisional Standing Order 
39-A; 

After debate thereon, the said question was deemed to have been adopted. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Gordon, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Report of the 
Master of the Royal Canadian Mint for the year ended December 31, 1964, pur- 
suant to section 21 of the Currency, Mint and Exchange Fund Act, chapter 315, 
R.S.C., 1952. (English and French). 

By Mr. Gordon, — Report on the operations of the Exchange Fund Account 
for the year ended December 31, 1964, together with the Financial Statement 
for the year ended December 31, 1964, pursuant to section 26 of the Currency, 
Mint and Exchange Fund Act, chapter 315, R.S.C., 1952. (English and French). 

By Mr. Laing, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Capital Budget 
of the Northern Canada Power Commission for the year ending March 31, 1966, 
pursuant to section 80(2) of the Financial Administration Act, chapter 116, 
R.S.C., 1952, together with a copy of Order in Council P.C. 1965-857, dated 
May 13, 1965, approving same. 

By Mr. Lamontagne, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Return to 
an Order of the House, dated May 5, 1965, for a copy of all documents, con- 
tracts, letters and correspondence exchanged between the Centennial Commis- 
sion of Canada and Mr. William Fair or any other person or association in rela- 
tion to the setting up of a Youth Parliament to commemorate this event. — 
(Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers No. 16). 

By Mr. Mcllraith, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Statutory 
Orders and Regulations published in the Canada Gazette, Part II, of Wednesday, 
May 26, 1965, pursuant to section 7 of the Regulations Act, chapter 235, R.S.C., 
1952. (English and French). 

By Mr. Pickersgill, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Capital 
Budget of the Canadian Overseas Telecommunication Corporation for the year 
ending March 31, 1966, pursuant to section 80(2) of the Financial Administra- 
tion Act, chapter 116, R.S.C., 1952, together with a copy of Order in Council 
P.C. 965-957, dated May 25, 1965, approving same. 

By Mr. Sharp, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Order in Council 
P.C. 1965-940, dated May 20, 1965, authorizing, under section 21a of the Ex- 



174 HOUSE OF COMMONS June 1, 1965 

port Credits Insurance Act, financing by the Export Credits Insurance Corpora- 
tion, for the purchase by the Government of the United Arab Republic, Cairo 
Egypt, of telecommunication equipment and associated technical services from 
R.C.A. Victor Company Ltd., Montreal, Quebec, pursuant to section 21b of the 
said Act, chapter 105, R.S.C., 1952, as amended 1960-61. 



At 10.20 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 
2.30 o'clock p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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No. 34 

JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA. WEDNESDAY, JUNE 2, 1965. 



2.30 o'clock p.m. 

Prayers. 

One petition for a Private Bill was presented in accordance with Standing 
Order 70(1). 



Mr. Favreau, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, laid before the House, 
— Copy of a Press Release dated June 2, 1965, concerning the appointment of 
consultants to the Special Committee on Corrections. (English and French). 



Mr. Leblanc, seconded by Mr. Lessard (Saint-Henri), by leave of the 
House, introduced Bill C-112, An Act to amend the Small Businesses Loans Act, 
which was read the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next sit- 
ting of the House. 



Pursuant to Standing Order 39(4) the following five Questions were made 
Orders of the House for Returns, namely: 

No. 72 — Mr. Deachman 
What has been (a) the federal government capital investments on univer- 
sity campuses located in the Province of British Columbia in each year since 
1950 (b) the total paid in per capita grants to universities located in British 
Columbia in each year since the policy has been in force? 

Mr. Stewart, Parliamentary Secretary to the Secretary of State, presented, 
— Return to the foregoing Order. 



176 HOUSE OF COMMONS June 2, 1965 

No. 84 — Mr, Duhe 

1. How many federal government departments or agencies have a sepa- 
rate French-language information service? 

2. When is it anticipated that the Glassco Commission recommendations 
in this regard will be implemented in the case of departments or agencies which 
do not have them? 

Mr. Stewart, Parliamentary Secretary to the Secretary of State, presented, 
— ^Return to the foregoing Order. 

No. 276 — Mr. Armstrong 
What was done with the money transmitted to Nova Scotia in 1962-63, 
1963-64 and 1964-65 under the Fitness and Amateur Sport Act? 

Mr. Stewart, Parliamentary Secretary to the Secretary of State, presented, 
— ^Return to the foregoing Order. 

No. 371 — Mr, Orlikow 

1. Which countries received aid under Canada's External Aid Programme 
in 1964? 

2. What was the amount of aid which each country receiving such aid, 
obtained? 

3. How much of this Canadian aid in 1964 consisted of Canadian goods 
exported to these developing countries? 

4. Which Canadian firms benefited from contracts received from the Exter- 
nal Aid office? 

5. Which provinces in Canada were granted these External Aid contracts? 

Mr. Stewart, Parliamentary Secretary to the Secretary of State, presented, 
— Return to the foregoing Order. 

No. 428 — Mr, Howe (Wellington-Huron) 

1. Is the Department of National Health and Welfare conducting a pro- 
gramme of research on air pollution and, if so, what have been the findings of 
this programme as to its cause in connection with (a) the motor car, the 
truck and the bus (b) industrial and commercial enterprise (c) nuclear 
fallout? 

2. Have any conclusions been arrived at as to methods of control? 

3. How much has this programme cost to date? 

4. How much of the allocation set aside for research into cigarette smok- 
ing has been spent to date? 

Mr. Stewart, Parliamentary Secretary to the Secretary of State, presented, 
— Return to the foregoing Order. 



Notices of Motions for the Production of Papers Nos. 32 and 37 were 
allowed to stand at the request of the government. 



Pursuant to provisional order adopted on April 20, 1964, it was ordered, — 
That there be laid before this House a copy of all reports submitted to the 
Department of Justice in connection with the case of Leopold Dion and 
the National Parole Board. — {Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers No. 
33 — Mr, Marcoux), 



June 2, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 177 

Pursuant to provisional order adopted on April 20, 1964, it was ordered, — 
That there be laid before this House a copy of all correspondence received by 
the Minister of Finance since September 1, 1964, respecting the desirabiUty of 
an increase of University per capita grants and criticizing the government for 
not dealing with the emergency financial situation in university education. — 
{Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers No. 34 — Mr. Coates). 

Pursuant to provisional order adopted on April 20, 1964, it was ordered, — 
That there be laid before this House a copy of any letter or correspondence 
exchanged between Mr. Maurice Chouinard, Mayor of Saint-Jean-Port-Joli and 
the Departments of Public Works and Post Office concerning offers of land, 
construction applications and an offer of rented premises for a post office in the 
Village of Saint- Jean-Port- Joli. — {Notice of Motion for the Production of 
Papers No. 35 — Mr. Ricard). 

Pursuant to provisional order adopted on April 20, 1964, it was ordered, — 
That there be laid before this House a copy of Ordinance No. 4344 of the Air 
Transport Board, relating to the application filed by Okanagan Helicopters 
Ltd. — {Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers No. 36 — Mr. Martineau). 

Mr. Martineau, seconded by Mr. Winkler, moved, — That an Order of the 
House do issue for a copy of the draft framework agreement submitted by the 
Department of External Affairs to Mr. Basdevant, Director of Cultural Affairs 
for France, in respect of cultural exchanges between the provinces and foreign 
countries. — {Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers No. 38). 

And the question being proposed; 

The Honourable, the Secretary of State for External Affairs [Mr. Martin 
(Essex East)], stated that he desired a debate on the said motion. 

Ordered, — That the said motion be transferred by the Clerk to the order 
of "Notices of Motions (Papers)", pursuant to Standing Order 47 as provision- 
ally amended April 20, 1964. 



Mr. Speaker communicated to the House the following letter: 

GOVERNMENT HOUSE 
OTTAWA 

2nd June, 1965. 

Sir, 

I have the honour to inform you that the Honourable Robert Taschereau, 
P.C, Chief Justice of Canada, acting as Deputy to His Excellency the Governor 
General will proceed to the Senate Chamber today, the 2nd June, at 5.45 
p.m., for the purpose of giving Royal Assent to certain bills. 

I have the honour to be. 

Sir, 

Your obedient servant, 

A. G. CHERRIER, 
Assistant Secretary to the Governor General, 
The Honourable, 

The Speaker of the House of Commons. 



178 HOUSE OF COMMONS June 2, 1965 

The House resumed debate on the proposed amended motion of Mr. Pearson, 
seconded by Mr. Mcllraith, — That this House recognizes the need for improving 
its procedures to provide full opportunity for the critical examination of 
proposed legislation and to ensure the effective dispatch of public business; 

That this House agrees upon the need for allocating the time for the 
business of the House; and 

That, in order to secure improved examination of the details of legislation 
and of public spending, while maintaining the full authority of the House, this 
House agrees upon the value of making increased use of Standing Committees; 

That this House accordingly orders: 

1. (a) That detailed examination of estimates, saving always the right 
of the Committee of Supply, be undertaken by Standing Committees 
and that not more than 30 days of the time of the House be allocated 
to the business of supply in each session. For the purpose of this order 
the business of supply shall consist of main estimates; interim supply; 
and supplementary or additional estimates excepting supplementary or 
additional estimates introduced after the main estimates have been 
approved, and excepting always the final supplementary or additional 
estimates; 

(b) That the number of supply motions be reduced from, six to four 
and 

(c) That a Special Committee of the House, consisting of twenty- 
four members, to be designated later by the House, be instructed to 
prepare and to submit to the House forthwith the changes in Standing 
Orders consequential upon these orders, including any means of giving 
to the opposition an opportunity to select the departmental estimates 
to be discussed. 

2. That the Standing Orders be amended by adding thereto a new 
Standing Order 15- A, to read as follows: 

Standing Order 15- A 

15-A. (1) There shall be a Business Committee to which the leader 
of each party in the House from time to time by written notice to the 
Speaker may appoint one member. 

(2) During routine proceedings a Minister of the Crown may 
request that the question of allocation of time for consideration of any 
item of business or stage thereof be referred to the Business Committee 
for consideration and report, and upon such request being made such 
question shall stand referred to the committee. 

(3) The Business Committee shall report back to the House on or 
before the third sitting day following such request. 

(4) If the Chairman of the Business Committee reports that the 
Committee has unanimously recommended an allocation of time for 
the item of business or stage thereof, a Minister of the Crown may 
without notice propose a motion, to be decided without debate or amend- 
ment, for concurrence in the report, and, if agreed to, the motion shall 
have the same effect as if it were an order of the House. 

(5) If the Chairman of the Business Committee reports that the 
committee has been unable to reach a unanimous agreement or if the 



June 2, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 179 

committee fails to report within the time specified by Section (3) of this 
Standing Order, a Minister of the Crown may give notice that at the 
next sitting of the House he will move that an order be made allocating 
the time for the item of business or stage thereof. 

(6) A motion of which a Minister has given notice under Section 
(5) of this Standing Order shall be made during routine proceedings. 
Unless the debate on the motion has been previously concluded, Mr. 
Speaker shall at fifteen minutes before the expiry of the time provided 
for Government business in such sitting, interrupt the proceedings and 
forthwith put every question necessary to dispose of the main motion. 
A motion requesting allocation of time, if agreed to, shall have the 
same effect as if it were an order of the House. 

(7) No motion made by a Minister under Sections (5) and (6) of 
this Standing Order shall provide for the allocation of a period of time 
shorter than two days for the second reading, two days for the com- 
mittee stage, and one day for the third reading of any bill. For the 
purposes of this section, third reading shall be deemed to have been 
considered for one day provided the order for third reading is called 
as the first item under Government Orders on a Monday, Tuesday, Thurs- 
day or Friday, and provided it is continued, if necessary, until the normal 
time of adjournment on any such day; provided that if a representative 
of each party has not spoken, the hour for the adjournment of the 
sitting shall be extended until a representative of each party has had 
an opportunity to speak. Such an order having been called on any 
Monday, Tuesday, Thursday or Friday, it shall have precedence over all 
other business until the time of adjournment on that day, unless it 
is disposed of earlier. Under any other circumstances, a total of five 
hours shall be deemed to be the equivalent of one sitting day. 

(8) During debate on any item of business or stage thereof for 
which an allocation of time has been made under this Standing Order, 
if an amendment is proposed which in the opinion of Mr. Speaker 
materially changes the item of business or stage thereof and which 
raises any issue for which in the opinion of Mr. Speaker there has not 
been or otherwise will not be an adequate opportunity for discussion, 
Mr. Speaker may announce an extension of not more than two days to 
the allocated period of time. 

3. That the orders of this House under numbered paragraph 1, the 

changes in Standing Orders consequential upon these Orders, and the 

new Standing Order 15 A be continued in effect until the end of the 
next ensuing session, unless this House otherwise orders. 

And on the proposed motion of Mr. Brewin, seconded by Mr. Webster, 
in amendment thereto, — That the resolution as amended be further amended 
by inserting in paragraph 2 thereof, immediately after sub-paragraph (8) of 
the proposed Standing Order 15 A, the following sub-paragraph: 

"(9) That in the event of an Order of the House being made for 
the allocation of time under the provisions hereof, notwithstanding the 
provisions of any other Standing Order, no Member except the Prime 
Minister, the Leader of any recognized Party in the House or a Minister 
moving a Government Order and the Member speaking in reply im- 
mediately after such Minister, shall speak for more than twenty (20) 



180 HOUSE OF COMMONS June 2, 1965 

minutes and no Member shall speak for more than forty (40) minutes 
at any time in such a debate." 

And on the proposed motion of Mr. Aiken, seconded by Mr. Grouse, in 
amendment to the said proposed amendment, — That the resolution be further 
amended by amending the amendment proposed by the honourable Member for 
Greenwood, seconded by the honourable Member for Vancouver-Kingsway, by 
striking out all the words after the words "Prime Minister" and substituting 
therefor the following: "the Leader of the Opposition, a Minister moving a 
Government Order and the Member speaking in reply immediately after such 
Minister shall speak for more than twenty minutes at any one time in such a 
debate". 

And debate continuing; the said debate was interrupted. 



By unanimous consent, it was ordered, — That a report prepared by Denis 
Smith, Assistant Professor of Politics, Trent University dated April 1965, 
entitled "The Speakership of the Canadian House of Commons: Some Pro- 
posals" be printed as an appendix to this day's Votes and Proceedings and that 
when a French language translation has been completed that the same be 
printed in the French language version of Votes and Proceedings. 



^Private Members' Business was called pursuant to Standing Order 15(3)] 

{Notices of Motions) 

Mr. Moreau, seconded by Mr. Hahn, moved, — That, in the opinion of this 
House, the government should consider the advisability of taking steps to slow 
down the emigration of our graduate students to the United States because of 
the larger research opportunities and higher income levels which exist in that 
country and, to this end, in particular, to consider whether such object may 
be attained in part by: 

granting an equivalent tax-free period to a successful student for each 
year spent on accredited post-graduate study and thereby provide our 
highly-trained people with an opportunity to recapture more quickly the 
costs incurred and the loss of earnings suffered by them during training 
periods. — (Notice of Motion No. 6). 

And debate arising thereon; 



A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Senate had passed Bill C-98, An Act to make provision for the retirement of 
members of the Senate, without any amendment. 



A Message was received from the Honourable Robert Taschereau, Chief 
Justice of Canada, in his capacity as Deputy to His Excellency the Governor 
Creneral, desiring the immediate attendance of the House in the Senate Chamber. 



Accordingly, Mr. Speaker with the House went to the Senate Chamber. 
And being returned; 



June 2, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 181 

Mr. Speaker reported that, when the House did attend the Honourable 
the Deputy to His Excellency the Governor General in the Senate Chamber, 
His Honour was pleased to give, in Her Majesty's name, the Royal Assent 
to the following bills: 

An Act to amend an Act to amend the Excise Tax Act. 

An Act to amend certain Acts respecting the superannuation of persons 
employed in the Public Service, members of the Canadian Forces and members 
of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. 

An Act to make provision for the retirement of members of the Senate. 

An Act to amend the National Housing Act, 1954. 

And Mr. Speaker informed the House that he had addressed the Honourable 
the Deputy to His Excellency the Governor General as follows: 

May It Please Your Honour: 

"The Commons of Canada have voted Supplies required to enable the 
Government to defray certain expenses of the public service. 

"In the name of the Commons I present to Your Honour the following 
Bill: 

*An Act for granting to Her Majesty certain sums of money for the public 
service, for the financial year ending the 31st March, 1966.' 

"To which Bill I humbly request Your Honour's Assent." 

Whereupon, the Clerk of the Senate, by Command of the Deputy to His 
Excellency the Governor General, did say: 

"In Her Majesty's name, the Honourable the Deputy to His Excellency 
the Governor General thanks Her Loyal Subjects, accepts their benevolence, 
and assents to this Bill." 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Cardin, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Capital Budget 
of the National Capital Commission for the year ending March 31, 1966, pur- 
suant to section 80(2) of the Financial Administration Act, chapter 116, R.S.C., 
1952, approved by Order in Council P.C. 1965-859, dated May 13, 1965. English 
and French). 

By Mr. MacEachen, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Report on 
the Vocational Rehabilitation of Disabled Persons Act, for the year ended 
March 31, 1965, pursuant to section 12 of the said Act, chapter 26, Statutes of 
Canada, 1960-61. 

Ninth Report of the Clerk of Petitions pursuant to Standing Order 70(7) as 
follows: 

The Clerk of Petitions has the honour to report that the petitions of the 
following, presented on June 1, meet the requirements of Standing Order 70: 

Harold Barrington Elworthy, William Clark Mearns, John Alfred Griffith 
Wallace, all of the City of Victoria, British Columbia, and two other persons of 
the City of Vancouver, British Columbia, for an Act to incorporate Bank of 
British Columbia, and/or "Banque de la Colombie Britannique". — Mr. Lehoe. 



182 HOUSE OF COMMONS June 2, 1965 

United Baptist Woman's Missionary Union of the Maritime Provinces for 
an Act to amend its Act of incorporation, deleting the words "Maritime Prov- 
inces" in Section 6 of the said Statutes and substituting therefor the words 
"Atlantic Provinces", and for other purposes. — Mr. Coates. 



At 6.07 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put until tomorrow at 2.30 o'clock p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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No. 35 

JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, THURSDAY, JUNE 3, 1965. 



2.30 o'clock p.m. 

The Clerk informed the House of the unavoidable absence of Mr. Speaker, 
whereupon Mr. Lamoureux (Stormont), Chairman of Committees, took the 
Chair as Deputy Speaker, pursuant to the Statute in that case made and pro- 
vided. 

Prayers. 

Mr. Peters, seconded by Mr. Howard, by leave of the House, introduced 
Bill C-113, An Act to amend the Bills of Exchange Act (Instalment Purchases), 
which was read the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next sit- 
ting of the House. 



The House resumed debate on the proposed amended motion of Mr. Pearson, 
seconded by Mr. Mcllraith, — That this House recognizes the need for improving 
its procedures to provide full opportunity for the critical examination of 
proposed legislation and to ensure the effective dispatch of public business; 

That this House agrees upon the need for allocating the time for the 
business of the House; and 

That, in order to secure improved examination of the details of legislation 
and of public spending, while maintaining the full authority of the House, this 
House agrees upon the value of making increased use of Standing Committees; 

That this House accordingly orders: 

1. (a) That detailed examination of estimates, saving always the right 
of the Committee of Supply, be undertaken by Standing Committees 
and that not more than 30 days of the time of the House be allocated 
to the business of supply in each session. For the purpose of this order 
the business of supply shall consist of main estimates; interim supply; 



184 HOUSE OF COMMONS June 3, 1965 

and supplementary or additional estimates excepting supplementary or 
additional estimates introduced after the main estimates have been 
approved, and excepting always the final supplementary or additional 

estimates; 

(b) That the number of supply motions be reduced from six to four 
and 

(c) That a Special Committee of the House, consisting of twenty- 
four members, to be designated later by the House, be instructed to 
prepare and to submit to the House forthwith the changes in Standing 
Orders consequential upon these orders, including any means of giving 
to the opposition an opportunity to select the departmental estimates 
to be discussed. 

2. That the Standing Orders be amended by adding thereto a new 
Standing Order 15- A to read as follows: 

Standing Order 15- A 

15- A. (1) There shall be a Business Committee to which the leader 
of each party in the House from time to time by written notice to the 
Speaker may appoint one member. 

(2) During routine proceedings a Minister of the Crown may 
request that the question of allocation of time for consideration of any 
item of business or stage thereof be referred to the Business Committee 
for consideration and report, and upon such request being made such 
question shall stand referred to the committee. 

(3) The Business Committee shall report back to the House on or 
before the third sitting day following such request. 

(4) If the Chairman of the Business Committee reports that the 
Committee has unanimously recommended an allocation of time for 
the item of business or stage thereof, a Minister of the Crown may 
without notice propose a motion, to be decided without debate or amend- 
ment, for concurrence in the report, and, if agreed to, the motion shall 
have the same effect as if it were an order of the House. 

(5) If the Chairman of the Business Committee reports that the 
committee has been unable to reach a unanimous agreement or if the 
committee fails to report within the time specified by Section (3) of this 
Standing Order, a Minister of the Crown may give notice that at the 
next sitting of the House he will move that an order be made allocating 
the time for the item of business or stage thereof. 

(6) A motion of which a Minister has given notice under Section 
(5) of this Standing Order shall be made during routine proceedings. 
Unless the debate on the motion has been previously concluded, Mr. 
Speaker shall at fifteen minutes before the expiry of the time provided 
for Government business in such sitting, interrupt the proceedings and 
forthwith put every question necessary to dispose of the main motion. 
A motion requesting allocation of time, if agreed to, shall have the 
same effect as if it were an order of the House. 



June 3, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 185 

(7) No motion made by a Minister under Sections (5) and (6) of 
this Standing Order shall provide for the allocation of a period of time 
shorter than two days for the second reading, two days for the com- 
mittee stage, and one day for the third reading of any bill. For the 
purposes of this section, third reading shall be deemed to have been 
considered for one day provided the order for third reading is called 
as the first item under Government Orders on a Monday, Tuesday, Thurs- 
day or Friday, and provided it is continued, if necessary, until the normal 
time of adjournment on any such day; provided that if a representative 
of each party has not spoken, the hour for the adjournment of the 
sitting shall be extended until a representative of each party has had 
an opportunity to speak. Such an order having been called on any 
Monday, Tuesday, Thursday or Friday, it shall have precedence over all 
other business until the time of adjournment on that day, unless it 
is disposed of earlier. Under any other circumstances, a total of five 
hours shall be deemed to be the equivalent of one sitting day. 

(8) During debate on any item of business or stage thereof for 
which an allocation of time has been made under this Standing Order, 
if an amendment is proposed which in the opinion of Mr. Speaker 
materially changes the item of business or stage thereof and which 
raises any issue for which in the opinion of Mr. Speaker there has not 
been or otherwise will not be an adequate opportunity for discussion, 
Mr. Speaker may announce an extension of not more than two days to 
the allocated period of time. 

3. That the orders of this House under numbered paragraph 1, the 
changes in Standing Orders consequential upon these Orders, and the 
new Standing Order 15 A be continued in effect until the end of the 
next ensuing session, unless this House otherwise orders. 

And on the proposed motion of Mr. Brewin, seconded by Mr. Webster, 
in amendment thereto, — That the resolution as amended be further amended 
by inserting in paragraph 2 thereof, immediately after sub-paragraph (8) of 
the proposed Standing Order 15 A, the following sub-paragraph: 

"(9) That in the event of an Order of the House being made for 
the allocation of time under the provisions hereof, notwithstanding the 
provisions of any other Standing Order, no Member except the Prime 
Minister, the Leader of any recognized Party in the House or a Minister 
moving a Government Order and the Member speaking in reply im- 
mediately after such Minister, shall speak for more than twenty (20) 
minutes and no Member shall speak for more than forty (40) minutes 
at any time in such a debate.'* 

And on the proposed motion of Mr. Aiken, seconded by Mr. Grouse, in 
amendment to the said proposed amendment, — That the resolution be further 
amended by amending the amendment proposed by the honourable Member for 
Greenwood, seconded by the honourable Member for Vancouver-Kingsway, by 
striking out all the words after the words "Prime Minister" and substituting 
therefor the following: "the Leader of the Opposition, a Minister moving a 
Government Order and the Member speaking in reply immediately after such 
Minister shall speak for more than twenty minutes at any one time in such a 
debate". 



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June 3, 1965 



After further debate, the question being put on the said proposed amend- 
ment to the amendment, it was negatived on the following division: 

Yeas 

Messrs: 



Aiken, 


Fleming 


Macquarrie, 


Ormiston, 


Alkenbrack, 


(Qkanagan- 


McBain, 


Pascoe, 


Balcer, 


Revelstoke), 


McCutcheon, 


Pugh, 


Baldwin, 


Forbes, 


Mcintosh, 


Rapp, 


Bell, 


Girouard, 


Madill, 


Rheaume, 


Bigg, 


Grafftey, 


Mandziuk, 


Ricard, 


Cadieu, 


Gundlock, 


Millar, 


Rynard, 


Cardiff, 


Hales, 


Monteith, 


Slogan, 


Chatterton, 


Hamilton, 


Moore, 


Smallwood, 


ChurchiU, 


Howe (Wellington- 


More, 


Southam, 


Clancy, 


Huron), 


Muir (Cape Breton 


Starr, 


Coates, 


Irvine, 


North and 


Stefanson, 


Crouse, 


Jones (Mrs.), 


Victoria), 


Stenson, 


Danforth, 


Jorgenson, 


Muir (Lisgar), 


Thomas, 


Diefenbaker, 


Kennedy, 


Nasserden, 


Watson (Assiniboia), 


Dinsdale, 


Korchinski, 


Nesbitt, 


Webb, 


Doucett, 


MacEwan, 


Noble, 


Willoughby, 


Fairweather, 


MacLean (Queens), 


Nugent, 


Winkler, 


Fane, 




Nays 


Woolliams— 69. 




Messrs: 




Armstrong, 


Drouin, 


Laverdiere, 


Perron, 


Asselin 


Drury, 


Leblanc, 


Peters, 


(Notre-Dame- 


Dube, 


Leboe, 


PickersgiU, 


de-Grace), 


Emard, 


Leduc, 


Pilon, 


Badanai, 


Ethier, 


Legault, 


Plourde, 


Barnett, 


Eudes, 


Lessard (Saint- 


Prittie, 


Basford, 


Favreau, 


Henri), 


Prud'homme, 


Batten, 


Fisher, 


Loiselle, 


Regan, 


Beaule, 


Forgie, 


Macaluso, 


Richard, 


Bechard, 


Foy, 


MacEachen, 


Rideout (Mrs.), 


Beer, 


Francis, 


Mackasey, 


Rinfret, 


Belanger, 


Frenette, 


MacNaught, 


Rochon, 


Benson, 


Gauthier, 


Mcllraith, 


Rock, 


Blouin, 


Gelber, 


McLean (Charlotte), 


Rondeau, 


Boutin, 


Gendron, 


McWilliam, 


Rouleau, 


Brown, 


Godin, 


Marcoux, 


Roxburgh, 


Byrne, 


Granger, 


Martin (Timmins), 


Saltsman, 


Cadieux, 


Gray, 


Matheson, 


Sharp, 


Cantin, 


Greene, 


Matte, 


Stewart, 


Cardin, 


Gregoire, 


Moreau, 


Tardif, 


Caron, 


Haidasz, 


Morison, 


Teillet, 


Carter, 


Harley, 


Mullally, 


Thompson, 


Cashin, 


Herridge, 


Munro, 


Tremblay, 


Chapdelaine, 


Howard, 


O'Keefe, 


Tucker, 


Choquette, 


Jewett (Miss), 


Olson, 


Wahn, 


Chretien, 


Kelly, 


Orlikow, 


Walker, 


Cote (Chicoutimi), 


Klein, 


Otto, 


Watson (Chateau- 


Cowan, 


Knowles, 


Patterson, 


guay-Huntingdon- 


Deachman, 


Lachance, 


Pearson, 


Laprairie), 


Deschatelets, 


LaMarsh (Miss), 


Pennell, 


Webster, 


Dionne, 


Lamontagne, 


Pepin, 


Whelan, 


Douglas, 


Laniel, 




Winch— 122. 



June 3, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 187 

By unanimous consent, the House reverted to "Motions". 



By unanimous consent, the hour for Private Members' Business was sus- 
pended. 



Debate was resumed on the proposed amended motion of Mr. Pearson, 
seconded by Mr. Mcllraith, — That this House recognizes the need for improving 
its procedures to provide full opportunity for the critical examination of 
proposed legislation and to ensure the effective dispatch of public business; 

That this House agrees upon the need for allocating the time for the 
business of the House; and 

That, in order to secure improved examination of the details of legislation 
and of public spending, while maintaining the full authority of the House, this 
House agrees upon the value of making increased use of Standing Committees; 

That this House accordingly orders: 

1. (a) That detailed examination of estimates, saving always the right 
of the Committee of Supply, be undertaken by Standing Committees 
and that not more than 30 days of the time of the House be allocated 
to the business of supply in each session. For the purpose of this order 
the business of supply shall consist of main estimates; interim supply; 
and supplementary or additional estimates excepting supplementary or 
additional estimates introduced after the main estimates have been 
approved, and excepting always the final supplementary or additional 
estimates; 

(b) That the number of supply motions be reduced from six to four 
and 

(c) That a Special Committee of the House, consisting of twenty- 
four members, to be designated later by the House, be instructed to 
prepare and to submit to the House forthwith the changes in Standing 
Orders consequential upon these orders, including any means of giving 
to the opposition an opportunity to select the departmental estimates 
to be discussed. 

2. That the Standing Orders be amended by adding thereto a new 
Standing Order 15- A to read as follows: 

Standing Order 15- A 

15-A. (1) There shall be a Business Committee to which the leader 
of each party in the House from time to time by written notice to the 
Speaker may appoint one member. 

(2) During routine proceedings a Minister of the Crown may 
request that the question of allocation of time for consideration of any 
item of business or stage thereof be referred to the Business Committee 
for consideration and report, and upon such request being made such 
question shall stand referred to the committee. 

(3) The Business Committee shall report back to the House on or 
before the third sitting day following such request. 

(4) If the Chairman of the Business Committee reports that the 
Committee has unanimously recommended an allocation of time for 

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188 HOUSE OF COMMONS June 3, 1965 

the item of business or stage thereof, a Minister of the Crown may 
without notice propose a motion, to be decided without debate or amend- 
ment, for concurrence in the report, and, if agreed to, the motion shall 
have the same effect as if it were an order of the House. 

(5) If the Chairman of the Business Committee reports that the 
committee has been unable to reach a unanimous agreement or if the 
committee fails to report within the time specified by Section (3) of this 
Standing Order, a Minister of the Crown may give notice that at the 
next sitting of the House he will move that an order be made allocating 
the time for the item of business or stage thereof. 

(6) A motion of which a Minister has given notice under Section 
(5) of this Standing Order shall be made during routine proceedings. 
Unless the debate on the motion has been previously concluded, Mr. 
Speaker shall at fifteen minutes before the expiry of the time provided 
for Government business in such sitting, interrupt the proceedings and 
forthwith put every question necessary to dispose of the main motion. 
A motion requesting allocation of time, if agreed to, shall have the 
same effect as if it were an order of the House. 

(7) No motion made by a Minister under Sections (5) and (6) of 
this Standing Order shall provide for the allocation of a period of time 
shorter than two days for the second reading, two days for the com- 
mittee stage, and one day for the third reading of any bill. For the 
purposes of this section, third reading shall be deemed to have been 
considered for one day provided the order for third reading is called 
as the first item under Government Orders on a Monday, Tuesday, Thurs- 
day or Friday, and provided it is continued, if necessary, until the normal 
time of adjournment on any such day; provided that if a representative 
of each party has not spoken, the hour for the adjournment of the 
sitting shall be extended until a representative of each party has had 
an opportunity to speak. Such an order having been called on any 
Monday, Tuesday, Thursday or Friday, it shall have precedence over all 
other business until the time of adjournment on that day, unless it 
is disposed of earlier. Under any other circumstances, a total of five 
hours shall be deemed to be the equivalent of one sitting day. 

(8) During debate on any item of business or stage thereof for 
which an allocation of time has been made under this Standing Order, 
if an amendment is proposed which in the opinion of Mr. Speaker 
materially changes the item of business or stage thereof and which 
raises any issue for which in the opinion of Mr. Speaker there has not 
been or otherwise will not be an adequate opportunity for discussion, 
Mr. Speaker may announce an extension of not more than two days to 
the allocated period of time. 

3. That the orders of this House under numbered paragraph 1, the 
changes in Standing Orders consequential upon these Orders, and the 
new Standing Order 15A be continued in effect until the end of the 
next ensuing session, unless this House otherwise orders. 

And on the proposed motion of Mr. Brewin, seconded by Mr. Webster, 
in amendment thereto, — That the resolution as amended be further amended 



June 3, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 189 

by inserting in paragraph 2 thereof, immediately after sub-paragraph (8) of 
the proposed Standing Order 15 A, the following sub-paragraph: 

**(9) That in the event of an Order of the House being made for 
the allocation of time under the provisions hereof, notwithstanding the 
provisions of any other Standing Order, no Member except the Prime 
Minister, the Leader of any recognized Party in the House or a Minister 
moving a Government Order and the Member speaking in reply im- 
mediately after such Minister, shall speak for more than twenty (20) 
minutes and no Member shall speak for more than forty (40) minutes 
at any time in such a debate." 

After further debate; the said proposed amendment was, by unanimous 
consent, withdrawn. 

Whereupon Mr. MacNaught, seconded by Mr. Tremblay, moved, — That the 
resolution as amended be further amended by inserting in Paragraph 2 thereof 
immediately after Section (8) of the proposed Standing Order 15- A, the fol- 
lowing section: 

(9) The term "allocation of time", wherever used in this Standing 
Order, may include the allotting of time to any item of business, to any 
stage thereof, or to any part thereof, and may include the fixing of 
limits for the length of speeches. 

And debate arising thereon; the said debate was interrupted. 



{Proceedings on Adjournment Motion) 

At 10.02 o'clock p.m., the question "That this House do now adjourn" 
was deemed to have been proposed pursuant to provisional Standing Order 
39-A; 

After debate thereon, the said question was deemed to have been adopted. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Lamontagne, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Return to an 
Order of the House, dated March 3, 1965, for a copy of all correspondence 
between the Indian Band at Hay Lake, Alberta and the Department of Citizen- 
ship and Immigration (Indian Affairs Branch) since January 1, 1963. — {Notice 
of Motion for the Production of Papers No, 220). 

By Mr. Lamontagne, — Return to an Order of the House, dated March 31, 
1965 for a copy of all correspondence, letters, telegrams, etc., received by the 
Prime Minister and the Minister of Citizenship and Immigration or officials of 
his Department, together with replies, in connection with the Professor Mulford 
Q. Sibley case. — {Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers No. 240). 

Tenth Report of the Clerk of Petitions pursuant to Standing Order 70(7) 
as follows: 

The Clerk of Petitions has the honour to report that the petition of the fol- 
lowing, presented on June 2, meets the requirements of Standing Order 70: 

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190 HOUSE OF COMMONS June 3, 1965 

Raymond Lee Bradley, Edwin Wiebe, Olga Bradley and two other persons, 
all of the City of Winnipeg, Manitoba, for an Act to incorporate Evangelistic 
Tabernacle Incorporated, and for other purposes. — Mr. Stefanson. 



At 10.27 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow 
at 11.00 o'clock a.m. pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



14 ELIZABETH II— A.D. 1965 191 

No. 36 

JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, FRIDAY, JUNE 4, 1965. 



11.00 o'clock a.m. 

Prayers. 

By unanimous consent, on motion of Mr. Walker, seconded by Mr. Rin- 
fret, it was ordered, — That the number of Members on the Standing Commit- 
tee on External Affairs, pursuant to Standing Order 65(1) (1), be reduced to 
twenty-four (24) and that the Committee be composed of the following Mem- 
bers: Messrs. Belanger, Brewin, Brown, Deachman, Dube, Forest, Gelber, 
Haidasz, Klein, Knowles, Konantz (Mrs.), Lachance, MacEwan, Mandziuk, 
Martineau, Matheson, Mcintosh, Nesbitt, Nugent, Patterson, Pugh, Regan, 
Walker and Winkler. 



The House resumed consideration of the proposed amended motion of Mr. 
Pearson, seconded by Mr. Mcllraith, — That this House recognizes the need for 
improving its procedures to provide full opportunity for the critical examination 
of proposed legislation and to ensure the effective dispatch of public business; 

That this House agrees upon the need for allocating the time for the 
business of the House; and 

That, in order to secure improved examination of the details of legislation 
and of public spending, while maintaining the full authority of the House, this 
House agrees upon the value of making increased use of Standing Committees; 

That this House accordingly orders: 

1. (a) That detailed examination of estimates, saving always the right 
of the Committee of Supply, be undertaken by Standing Committees 
and that not more than 30 days of the time of the House be allocated 
to the business of supply in each session. For the purpose of this order 
the business of supply shall consist of main estimates; interim supply; 



192 HOUSE OF COMMONS June 4, 1965 

and supplementary or additional estimates excepting supplementary or 
additional estimates introduced after the main estimates have been 
approved, and excepting always the final supplementary or additional 
estimates; 

(b) That the number of supply motions be reduced from six to four 
and 

(c) That a Special Committee of the House, consisting of twenty- 
four members, to be designated later by the House, be instructed to 
prepare and to submit to the House forthwith the changes in Standing 
Orders consequential upon these orders, including any means of giving 
to the opposition an opportunity to select the departmental estimates 
to be discussed. 

2. That the Standing Orders be amended by adding thereto a new 
Standing Order 15- A, to read as follows: 

Standing Order 15- A 

15- A. (1) There shall be a Business Committee to which the leader 
of each party in the House from time to time by written notice to the 
Speaker may appoint one member. 

(2) During routine proceedings a Minister of the Crown may 
request that the question of allocation of time for consideration of any 
item of business or stage thereof be referred to the Business Committee 
for consideration and report, and upon such request being made such 
question shall stand referred to the committee. 

(3) The Business Committee shall report back to the House on or 
before the third sitting day following such request. 

(4) If the Chairman of the Business Committee reports that the 
Committee has unanimously recommended an allocation of time for 
the item of business or stage thereof, a Minister of the Crown may 
without notice propose a motion, to be decided without debate or amend- 
ment, for concurrence in the report, and, if agreed to, the motion shall 
have the same effect as if it were an order of the House. 

(5) If the Chairman of the Business Committee reports that the 
committee has been unable to reach a unanimous agreement or if the 
committee fails to report within the time specified by Section (3) of this 
Standing Order, a Minister of the Crown may give notice that at the 
next sitting of the House he will move that an order be made allocating 
the time for the item of business or stage thereof. 

(6) A motion of which a Minister has given notice under Section 
(5) of this Standing Order shall be made during routine proceedings. 
Unless the debate on the motion has been previously concluded, Mr. 
Speaker shall at fifteen minutes before the expiry of the time provided 
for Government business in such sitting, interrupt the proceedings and 
forthwith put every question necessary to dispose of the main motion. 
A motion requesting allocation of time, if agreed to, shall have the 
same effect as if it were an order of the House. 

(7) No motion made by a Minister under Sections (5) and (6) of 
this Standing Order shall provide for the allocation of a period of time 



June 4, 1965 



HOUSE OF COMMONS 



193 



shorter than two days for the second reading, two days for the com- 
mittee stage, and one day for the third reading of any bill. For the 
purposes of this section, third reading shall be deemed to have been 
considered for one day provided the order for third reading is called 
as the first item under Government Orders on a Monday, Tuesday, Thurs- 
day or Friday, and provided it is continued, if necessary, until the normal 
time of adjournment on any such day; provided that if a representative 
of each party has not spoken, the hour for the adjournment of the 
sitting shall be extended until a representative of each party has had 
an opportunity to speak. Such an order having been called on any 
Monday, Tuesday, Thursday or Friday, it shall have precedence over all 
other business until the time of adjournment on that day, unless it 
is disposed of earlier. Under any other circumstances, a total of five 
hours shall be deemed to be the equivalent of one sitting day. 

(8) During debate on any item of business or stage thereof for 
which an allocation of time has been made under this Standing Order, 
if an amendment is proposed which in the opinion of Mr. Speaker 
materially changes the item of business or stage thereof and which 
raises any issue for which in the opinion of Mr. Speaker there has not 
been or otherwise will not be an adequate opportunity for discussion, 
Mr. Speaker may announce an extension of not more than two days to 
the allocated period of time. 

3. That the orders of this House under numbered paragraph 1, the 
changes in Standing Orders consequential upon these Orders, and the 
new Standing Order 15A be continued in effect until the end of the 
next ensuing session, unless this House otherwise orders. 

And of the proposed motion of Mr. MacNaught, seconded by Mr. Tremblay, 
— That the resolution as amended be further amended by inserting in Para- 
graph 2 thereof immediately after Section (8) of the proposed Standing Order 
15- A, the following section: 

(9) The term "allocation of time", wherever used in this Standing 
Order, may include the allotting of time to any item of business, to any 
stage thereof, or to any part thereof, and may include the fixing of 
limits for the length of speeches. 

And the question being put on the said proposed amendment, it was 
agreed to on the following division: 

Yeas 
Messrs: 



Armstrong, 


Cadieux, 


Ethier, 


Haidasz, 


Asselin (Notre- 


Cardin, 


Forgie, 


Harley, 


Dame-de-Grace), 


Caron, 


Foy, 


Hays, 


Badanai, 


Carter, 


Frenette, 


Hellyer, 


Balcer, 


Cashin, 


Gauthier, 


Herridge, 


Barnett, 


Choquette, 


Gelber, 


Howard, 


Batten, 


Chretien, 


Gendron, 


Howe (Hamilton 


Bechard, 


Cote (Chicoutimi), 


Godin, 


South), 


Beer, 


Cowan, 


Gordon, 


Jewett (Miss), 


Benson, 


Cyr, 


Granger, 


Kelly, 


Berger, 


Deachman, 


Gray, 


Klein, 


Blouin, 


Drury, 


Greene, 


Knowles, 


Boutin, 


Dube, 


Gregoire, 


Lachance, 


Byrne, 


Emard, 


Hahn, 


LaMarsh (Miss), 



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June 4, 1965 



Lamoureux, 
Langlois, 
Laniel, 
Leblanc, 
Leboe, 
Leduc, 
Legault, 
Lessard (Saint- 
Henri), 
Loiselle, 
MacEachen, 
Mackasey, 
MacNaught, 
Mcllraith, 



Alkenbrack, 

Bell, 

Bigg, 

Cardiff, 

Chatterton, 

Churchill, 

Clancy, 

Coates, 

Crouse, 

Danforth, 

Diefenbaker, 

Dinsdale, 



McWilliam, 

Marcoux, 

Martin (Essex East), 

Martin (Timmins), 

Matheson, 

Matte, 

Moreau, 

Mullally, 

Munro, 

Nicholson, 

O'Keefe, 

Otto, 

Patterson, 

Paul, 



Pearson, 

Pepin, 

Pickersgill, 

Pilon, 

Plourde, 

Prittie, 

Prud'homme, 

Rideout (Mrs.), 

Rinfret, 

Rochon, 

Rock, 

Rondeau, 

Roxburgh, 

Saltsman, 



Nays 



Messrs: 



Doucett, 

Forbes, 

Gundlock, 

Hales, 

Harkness, 

Irvine, 

Jones (Mrs.), 

Jorgenson, 

Kennedy, 

MacEwan, 

MacLean (Queens), 

Macquarrie, 



McBain, 

Mcintosh, 

Madill, 

Monteith, 

Muir (Cape Breton 

North and 

Victoria), 
Muir (Lisgar), 
Nasserden, 
Nesbitt, 
Noble, 
Nugent, 



Sharp, 

Stewart, 

Tardif, 

Teillet, 

Tremblay, 

Tucker, 

Wahn, 

Walker, 

Watson (Chateau- 

guay-Huntingdon- 

Laprairie), 
Webster, 
Whelan, 
Winch— 107. 



Pascoe, 

Rapp, 

Rheaume, 

Ricard, 

Southam, 

Starr, 

Stenson, 

Watson (Assiniboia), 

Webb, 

Willoughby, 

Winkler, 

Woolliams — 46. 



And debate continuing on the main motion, as amended; 

Mr. Bell, seconded by Mr. MacEwan, moved in amendment thereto, — 
That the motion be amended by inserting in the seventh line of subparagraph 
(6) of paragraph (2) thereof after the words "if agreed to", the following 
words: "by at least sixty (60) percent of the Members voting". 

And debate arising thereon; the said debate was interrupted. 



\_At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Private Members' Business was called pursuant to 

Standing Order 15(3)'] 

(Public Bills) 

Order No. 1 having been called was allowed to stand at the request of the 
government. 



The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-6, An Act respect- 
ing Canada Day. 

Mr. Chretien, seconded by Mr. Hahn, moved, — That the said bill be now 
read a second time. 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



June 4, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 195 

Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following paper having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
was laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By the Examiner of Petitions for Private Bills, — Fifth Report pursuant to 
Standing Order 100(2), as follows: 

The Examiner of Petitions for Private Bills has the honour to report that 
the following petitioners have complied with the requirements of Standing 
Order 96: 

Harold Barrington Elworthy, William Clark Mearns, John Alfred Griffith 
Wallace, all of the City of Victoria, British Columbia, and two other persons 
of the City of Vancouver, British Columbia, for an Act to incorporate Bank of 
British Columbia, and/or *'Banque de la Colombie Britannique", and for other 
purposes. 

Raymond Lee Bradley, Edwin Wiebe, Olga Bradley and two other persons, 
all of the City of Winnipeg, Manitoba, for an Act to incorporate Evangelistic 
Tabernacle Incorporated, and for other purposes. 



At six o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put until Monday at 2.30 o'clock p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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14 ELIZABETH II— A.D. 1965 197 

No. 37 

JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, MONDAY, JUNE 7, 1965. 



2.30 o'clock p.m. 
Prayers. 

Mr. Mcllraith for Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Pickersgill, moved, — That 
the House do go into Committee of the Whole at its next sitting to consider the 
following proposed resolution which has been recommended to the House by 
His Excellency: — 

That it is expedient to introduce a measure to amend the Fisheries Im- 
provement Loans Act to increase the maximum loan amount to a fisherman 
from four thousand dollars to ten thousand dollars and to increase the maxi- 
mum repayment period from eight years to ten years and also to extend the 
period during which guaranteed loans may be made for a period of five years 
from June 30, 1965, to June 30, 1970. 

Resolved, — That the House do go into Committee of the Whole at its next 
sitting to consider the said proposed resolution. 



Mr. Pickersgill, seconded by Mr. Mcllraith, moved, — That the House do 
go into Committee of the Whole at its next sitting to consider the following 
proposed resolution which has been recommended to the House by His Ex- 
cellency: — 

That it is expedient to introduce a measure to authorize and to provide for 
the construction of a line of railway in the Province of Ontario by Canadian 
National Railway Company from a point of the Froomfield Spur near Sarnia 
in a southerly direction for a distance of approximately twelve miles to the 
property of Canadian Industries Limited in Sombra Township in the County 
of Lambton at a total estimated expenditure of $850,000, not to be exceeded 
by more than fifteen per cent. 

Resolved, — That the House do go into Committee of the Whole at its next 
sitting to consider the said proposed resolution. 

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198 HOUSE OF COMMONS June 7, 1965 

The following Notice of Motion having been called was transferred to Gov- 
ernment Orders for consideration later this day pursuant to Standing Order 
21(2): 

That a Special Committee be appointed to continue the inquiry into and 
to report upon costs of drugs, begun by a Special Committee at the past Session; 

That the Committee consist of 24 Members to be designated later by the 
House; and be empowered to sit while the House is sitting; 

That the Committee be empowered to consider and recommend, as it may 
deem expedient, respecting a comprehensive and effective program to reduce 
the price of drugs; 

That the Committee be empowered to send for persons, papers and records, 
and to report from time to time, to print such papers and evidence from day 
to day as may be deemed advisable, and to engage the services of counsel, 
accountants, and such other technical and clerical personnel as may be deemed 
necessary; 

That the Minutes of Proceedings of and evidence given before the Special 
Committee at the past Session be referred to the said Committee and be made 
part of the records thereof; 

That the provisions of Standing Orders 66 and 67(1) be suspended in rela- 
tion to such Committee. — (The Minister of National Health and Welfare). 



On motion of Miss LaMarsh, seconded by Mr. Mcllraith, it was resolved, — 

That a Special Committee be appointed to continue the inquiry into and 
to report upon costs of drugs, begun by a Special Committee at the past Session; 

That the Committee consist of 24 Members to be designated later by the 
House; and be empowered to sit while the House is sitting; 

That the Committee be empowered to consider and recommend, as it may 
deem expedient, respecting a comprehensive and effective program to reduce 
the price of drugs; 

That the Committee be empowered to send for persons, papers, and records, 
and to report from time to time, to print such papers and evidence from day 
to day as may be deemed advisable, and to engage the services of counsel, 
accountants, and such other technical and clerical personnel as may be deemed 
necessary; 

That the Minutes of Proceedings of and evidence given before the Special 
Committee at the past Session be referred to the said Committee and be made 
part of the records thereof; 

That the provisions of Standing Orders 66 and 67(1) be suspended in rela- 
tion to such Committee. 



By unanimous consent, the House reverted to "Motions". 



On motion of Mr. Walker, seconded by Mr. Rinfret, it was ordered, — That 
the Special Committee on Food and Drugs be composed of Messrs. Armstrong, 
Asselin (Richmond-Wolfe) , Cote (Longueuil), Enns, Francis, Gauthier, Harley, 
Howe (Hamilton South), Jones (Mrs.), Macaluso, Mackasey, Marcoux, Mitchell, 
Monteith, Munro, Orlikow, Prud'homme, Roxburgh, Rynard, Slogan, Valade, 
Whelan, Willoughby, and Woolliams. 



June 7, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 199 

The House resumed debate on the proposed amended motion of Mr. Pearson^ 
seconded by Mr. Mcllraith, — That this House recognizes the need for improving 
its procedures to provide full opportunity for the critical examination of 
proposed legislation and to ensure the effective dispatch of public business; 

That this House agrees upon the need for allocating the time for the 
business of the House; and 

That, in order to secure improved examination of the details of legislation 
and of public spending, while maintaining the full authority of the House, this 
House agrees upon the value of m.aking increased use of Standing Committees; 

That this House accordingly orders: 

1. (a) That detailed examination of estimates, saving always the right 
of the Committee of Supply, be undertaken by Standing Committees 
and that not more than 30 days of the time of the House be allocated 
to the business of supply in each session. For the purpose of this order, 
the business of supply shall consist of main estimates; interim supply; 
and supplementary or additional estimates excepting supplementary or 
additional estimates introduced after the main estimates have been 
approved, and excepting always the final supplementary or additional 
estimates; 

(b) That the number of supply motions be reduced from six to four; 
and 

(c) That a Special Committee of the House, consisting of twenty- 
four members, to be designated later by the House, be instructed to 
prepare and to submit to the House forthwith the changes in Standing 
Orders consequential upon these orders, including any means of giving 
to the opposition an opportunity to select the departmental estimates 
to be discussed. 

2. That the Standing Orders be amended by adding thereto a new- 
Standing Order 15-A, to read as follows: 

Standing Order 15-A 

15-A. (1) There shall be a Business Committee to which the leader 
of each party in the House from time to time by written notice to the 
Speaker may appoint one member. 

(2) During routine proceedings a Minister of the Crown may 
request that the question of allocation of time for consideration of any 

I item of business or stage thereof be referred to the Business Committee 

for consideration and report, and upon such request being made such 
question shall stand referred to the committee. 

(3) The Business Committee shall report back to the House on or 
before the third sitting day following such request. 

(4) If the Chairman of the Business Committee reports that the 
Committee has unanimously recommended an allocation of time for 
the item of business or stage thereof, a Minister of the Crown may 
without notice propose a motion, to be decided without debate or amend- 
ment, for concurrence in the report, and, if agreed to, the motion shall 
have the same effect as if it were an order of the House. 

(5) If the Chairman of the Business Committee reports that the 
committee has been unable to reach a unanimous agreement or if the 



200 HOUSE OF COMMONS June 7, 1965 

committee fails to report within the time specified by Section (3) of this 
Standing Order, a Minister of the Crown may give notice that at the 
next sitting of the House he will move that an order be made allocating 
the time for the item of business or stage thereof. 

(6) A motion of which a Minister has given notice under Section 
(5) of this Standing Order shall be made during routine proceedings. 
Unless the debate on the motion has been previously concluded, Mr. 
Speaker shall at fifteen minutes before the expiry of the time provided 
for Government business in such sitting, interrupt the proceedings and 
forthwith put every question necessary to dispose of the main motion. 
A motion requesting allocation of time, if agreed to, shall have the 
same effect as if it were an order of the House. 

(7) No motion made by a Minister under Sections (5) and (6) of 
this Standing Order shall provide for the allocation of a period of time 
shorter than two days for the second reading, two days for the com- 
mittee stage, and one day for the third reading of any bill. For the 
purposes of this section, third reading shall be deemed to have been 
considered for one day provided the order for third reading is called 
as the first item under Government Orders on a Monday, Tuesday, Thurs- 
day or Friday, and provided it is continued, if necessary, until the normal 

, time of adjournment on any such day; provided that if a representative 

of each party has not spoken, the hour for the adjournment of the 
sitting shall be extended until a representative of each party has had 
an opportunity to speak. Such an order having been called on any 
Monday, Tuesday, Thursday or Friday, it shall have precedence over all 
other business until the time of adjournment on that day, unless it 
is disposed of earlier. Under any other circumstances, a total of five 
hours shall be deemed to be the equivalent of one sitting day. 

(8) During debate on any item of business or stage thereof for 
which an allocation of time has been made under this Standing Order, 
if an amendment is proposed which in the opinion of Mr. Speaker 
materially changes the item of business or stage thereof and which 
raises any issue for which in the opinion of Mr. Speaker there has not 
been or otherwise will not be an adequate opportunity for discussion, 
Mr. Speaker may announce an extension of not more than two days to 
the allocated period of time. 

(9) The term "allocation of time", wherever used in this Standing 
Order, may include the allotting of time to any item of business, to 
any stage thereof, or to any part thereof, and may include the fixing of 
limits for the length of speeches. 

3. That the orders of this House under numbered paragraph 1, the 
changes in Standing Orders consequential upon these Orders, and the 
new Standing Order 15A be continued in effect until the end of the 
next ensuing session, unless this House otherwise orders. 

And on the proposed motion of Mr. Bell, seconded by Mr. MacEwan, in 
amendment thereto, — That the motion be amended by inserting in the seventh 
line of subparagraph (6) of paragraph (2) thereof after the words "if agreed 
to", the following words: "by at least sixty (60) per cent of the members voting". 

And debate continuing; 



June 7, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 201 

\_At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Private Members* Business was called pursuant to 

Standing Order 15(3)'] 

(Notices of Motions) 

Mr. Francis, seconded by Miss Jewett, moved, — That a special committee 
of not more than fifteen members of this House be established to prepare a 
revision of Standing Order 39 (1) dealing with the form and content of written 
questions for the Order Paper of the House of Commons. — {Notice of Motion 
No. 9). 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 

Debate was resumed on the proposed amended motion of Mr. Pearson, 
seconded by Mr. Mcllraith, — That this House recognizes the need for improving 
its procedures to provide full opportunity for the critical examination of 
proposed legislation and to ensure the effective dispatch of public business; 

That this House agrees upon the need for allocating the time for the 
business of the House; and 

That, in order to secure improved examination of the details of legislation 
and of public spending, while maintaining the full authority of the House, this 
House agrees upon the value of making increased use of Standing Committees; 

That this House accordingly orders: 

1. (a) That detailed examination of estimates, saving always the right 
of the Committee of Supply, be undertaken by Standing Committees 
and that not more than 30 days of the time of the House be allocated 
to the business of supply in each session. For the purpose of this order, 
the business of supply shall consist of main estimates; interim supply; 
and supplementary or additional estimates excepting supplementary or 
additional estimates introduced after the main estimates have been 
approved, and excepting always the final supplementary or additional 
estimates; 

(b) That the number of supply motions be reduced from six to four; 
and 

(c) That a Special Committee of the House, consisting of twenty- 
four members, to be designated later by the House, be instructed to 
prepare and to submit to the House forthwith the changes in Standing 
Orders consequential upon these orders, including any means of giving 
to the opposition an opportunity to select the departmental estimates 
to be discussed. 

2. That the Standing Orders be amended by adding thereto a new 
Standing Order 15- A, to read as follows: 

Standing Order 15- A 

15- A. (1) There shall be a Business Committee to which the leader 
of each party in the House from time to time by written notice to the 
Speaker may appoint one member. 

(2) During routine proceedings a Minister of the Crown may 
request that the question of allocation of time for consideration of any 
item of business or stage thereof be referred to the Business Committee 
for consideration and report, and upon such request being made such 
question shall stand referred to the committee. 



202 HOUSE OF COMMONS June 7, 1965 

(3) The Business Committee shall report back to the House on or 
before the third sitting day following such request. 

(4) If the Chairman of the Business Committee reports that the 
Committee has unanimously recommended an allocation of time for 
the item of business or stage thereof, a Minister of the Crown may 
without notice propose a motion, to be decided without debate or amend- 
ment, for concurrence in the report, and, if agreed to, the motion shall 
have the same effect as if it were an order of the House. 

(5) If the Chairman of the Business Committee reports that the 
committee has been unable to reach a unanimous agreement or if the 
committee fails to report within the time specified by Section (3) of this 
Standing Order, a Minister of the Crown may give notice that at the 
next sitting of the House he will move that an order be made allocating 
the time for the item of business or stage thereof. 

(6) A motion of which a Minister has given notice under Section 
(5) of this Standing Order shall be made during routine proceedings. 
Unless the debate on the motion has been previously concluded, Mr. 
Speaker shall at fifteen minutes before the expiry of the time provided 
for Government business in such sitting, interrupt the proceedings and 
forthwith put every question necessary to dispose of the main motion. 
A motion requesting allocation of time, if agreed to, shall have the 
same effect as if it were an order of the House. 

(7) No motion made by a Minister under Sections (5) and (6) of 
this Standing Order shall provide for the allocation of a period of time 
shorter than two days for the second reading, two days for the com- 
mittee stage, and one day for the third reading of any bill. For the 
purposes of this section, third reading shall be deemed to have been 
considered for one day provided the order for third reading is called 
as the first item under Government Orders on a Monday, Tuesday, Thurs- 
day or Friday, and provided it is continued, if necessary, until the normal 
time of adjournment on any such day; provided that if a representative 
of each party has not spoken, the hour for the adjournment of the 
sitting shall be extended until a representative of each party has had 
an opportunity to speak. Such an order having been called on any 
Monday, Tuesday, Thursday or Friday, it shall have precedence over all 
other business until the time of adjournment on that day, unless it 
is disposed of earlier. Under any other circumstances, a total of five 
hours shall be deemed to be the equivalent of one sitting day. 

(8) During debate on any item of business or stage thereof for 
which an allocation of time has been made under this Standing Order, 
if an amendment is proposed which in the opinion of Mr. Speaker 
materially changes the item of business or stage thereof and which 
raises any issue for which in the opinon of Mr. Speaker there has not 
been or otherwise will not be an adequate opportunity for discussion, 
Mr. Speaker may announce an extension of not more than two days to 
the allocated period of time. 

(9) The term "allocation of time", wherever used in this Standing 
Order, may include the allotting of time to any item of business, to 



June 7, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 203 

any stage thereof, or to any part thereof, and may include the fixing of 
limits for the length of speeches. 

3. That the orders of this House under numbered paragraph 1, the 
changes in Standing Orders consequential upon these Orders, and the 
new Standing Order 15A be continued in effect until the end of the 
next ensuing session, unless this House otherwise orders. 

And on the proposed motion of Mr. Bell, seconded by Mr. MacEwan, in 
amendment thereto, — That the motion be amended by inserting in the seventh 
line of subparagraph (6) of paragraph (2) thereof after the words "if agreed 
to", the following words: "by at least sixty (60) percent of the members voting". 

And debate continuing; the said debate was interrupted. 



{Proceedings on Adjournment Motion) 

At ten o'clock p.m., the question "That this House do now adjourn" was 
deemed to have been proposed pursuant to provisional Standing Order 39- A; 

After debate thereon, the said question was deemed to have been adopted. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Favreau, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Copy of an 
Agreement between the Government of Canada and the Government of the 
Province of Nova Scotia for the use or employment of the Royal Canadian 
Mounted Police, pursuant to subsection 3 of section 20 of the Royal Canadian 
Mounted Police Act, Chapter 54, Statutes of Canada, 1959. 

By Mr. Favreau, — Copy of an Agreement between the Government of Can- 
ada and the Government of the Province of Manitoba for the use or employ- 
ment of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, pursuant to subsection 3 of section 
20 of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police Act, Chapter 54, Statutes of Canada, 
1959. 

By Mr. MacEachen, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Report on the 
Technical and Vocational Training Assistance Act, for the year ended March 
31, 1965, pursuant to section 13 of the said Act, chapter 6, Statutes of Canada, 
1960-61. 



At 10.28 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 
2.30 o'clock p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



14 ELIZABETH II— A.D. 1965 205 

No. 38 

JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, TUESDAY, JUNE 8, 1965. 



2.30 o'clock p.m. 



Prayers. 



Mr. Pickersgill, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, laid before the 
House, — Copy of a Statement by the Minister of Transport on Atlantic 
Provinces Transportation Studies. (English and French). 



By unanimous consent, Mr. MacEachen, a Member of the Queen's Privy 
Council, laid before the House, — Copy of a letter dated June 3, 1965, addressed 
to the Minister of Labour, by Judge Rene Lippe, Chairman of the Board of 
Trustees of the Maritime Transportation Unions, concerning the Canadian 
Seafarers' Building Corporation, Ltd. 



The House resumed debate on the proposed amended motion of Mr. Pearson, 
seconded by Mr. Mcllraith, — That this House recognizes the need for improving 
its procedures to provide full opportunity for the critical examination of 
proposed legislation and to ensure the effective dispatch of public business; 

That this House agrees upon the need for allocating the time for the busi- 
ness of the House; and 

That, in order to secure improved examination of the details of legislation 
and of public spending, while maintaining the full authority of the House, this 
House agrees upon the value of making increased use of Standing Committees; 

That this House accordingly orders: 

1. (a) That detailed examination of estimates, saving always the right 
of the Committee of Supply, be undertaken by Standing Committees 
and that not more than 30 days of the time of the House be allocated 



206 HOUSE OF COMMONS June 8, 1965 

to the business of supply in each session. For the purpose of this order 
the business of supply shall consist of main estimates; interim supply; 
and supplementary or additional estimates excepting supplementary or 
additional estimates introduced after the main estimates have been 
approved, and excepting always the final supplementary or additional 
estimates; 

(b) That the number of supply motions be reduced from six to four; 
and 

(c) That a Special Committee of the House, consisting of twenty- 
four members, to be designated later by the House, be instructed to 
prepare and to submit to the House forthwith the changes in Standing 
Orders consequential upon these orders, including any means of giving 
to the opposition an opportunity to select the departmental estimates 
to be discussed. 

2. That the Standing Orders be amended bj^" adding thereto a new 
Standing Order 15-A, to read as follows: 

Standing Order 15-A 

15-A. (1) There shall be a Business Committee to which the leader 
of each party in the House from time to time by written notice to the 
Speaker may appoint one member. 

(2) During routine proceedings a Minister of the Crown may 
request that the question of allocation of time for consideration of any 
item of business or stage thereof be referred to the Business Committee 
for consideration and report, and upon such request being made such 
question shall stand referred to the committee. 

(3) The Business Committee shall report back to the House on or 
before the third sitting day following such request. 

(4) If the Chairman of the Business Committee reports that the 
Committee has unanimously recommended an allocation of time for 
the item of business or stage thereof, a Minister of the Crown may 
without notice propose a motion, to be decided without debate or amend- 
ment, for concurrence in the report, and, if agreed to, the motion shall 
have the same effect as if it were an order of the House. 

(5) If the Chairman of the Business Committee reports that the 
committee has been unable to reach a unanimous agreement or if the 
committee fails to report within the time specified by Section (3) of this 
Standing Order, a Minister of the Crown may give notice that at the 
next sitting of the House he will move that an order be made allocating 
the time for the item of business or stage thereof. 

(6) A motion of which a Minister has given notice under Section 
(5) of this Standing Order shall be made during routine proceedings. 
Unless the debate on the motion has been previously concluded, Mr. 
Speaker shall at fifteen minutes before the expiry of the time provided 
for Government business in such sitting, interrupt the proceedings and 
forthwith put every question necessary to dispose of the main motion. 
A motion requesting allocation of time, if agreed to, shall have the 
same effect as if it were an order of the House. 



June 8, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 207 

(7) No motion made by a Minister under Sections (5) and (6) of 
this Standing Order shall provide for the allocation of a period of time 
shorter than two days for the second reading, two days for the com- 
mittee stage, and one day for the third reading of any bill. For the 
purposes of this section, third reading shall be deemed to have been 
considered for one day, provided the order for third reading is called 
as the first item under Government Orders on a Monday, Tuesday, Thurs- 
day or Friday, and provided it is continued, if necessary, until the normal 
time of adjournment on any such day; provided that if a representative 
of each party has not spoken, the hour for the adjournment of the 
sitting shall be extended until a representative of each party has had 
an opportunity to speak. Such an order having been called on any 
Monday, Tuesday, Thursday or Friday, it shall have precedence over all 
other business until the time of adjournment on that day, unless it 
is disposed of earlier. Under any other circumstances, a total of five 
hours shall be deemed to be the equivalent of one sitting day. 

(8) During debate on any item of business or stage thereof for 
which an allocation of time has been made under this Standing Order, 
if an amendment is proposed which in the opinion of Mr. Speaker 
materially changes the item of business or stage thereof and which 
raises any issue for which in the opinion of Mr. Speaker there has not 
been or otherwise will not be an adequate opportunity for discussion, 
Mr. Speaker may announce an extension of not more than two days to 
the allocated period of time. 

(9) The term "allocation of time", wherever used in this Standing 
Order, may include the allotting of time to any item of business, to 
any stage thereof, or to any part thereof, and may include the fixing of 
limits for the length of speeches. 

3. That the orders of this House under numbered paragraph 1, the 
changes in Standing Orders consequential upon these Orders, and the 
new Standing Order 15 A be continued in effect until the end of the 
next ensuing session, unless this House otherwise orders. 

And on the proposed motion of Mr. Bell, seconded by Mr. MacEwan, in 
amendment thereto, — That the motion be amended by inserting in the seventh 
line of subparagraph (6) of paragraph (2) thereof after the words "if agreed 
to", the following words: "by at least sixty (60) per cent of the members 
voting". 

And debate continuing; 



[At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Private Members' Business was called pursuant to 

Standing Order 15(3)'] 

(Private Bills) 

The Order being read for the second reading of Bill S-5, An Act respecting 
Great Northern Railway Company and Great Northern Pacific & Burlington 
Lines, Inc.; 

Mr. Wahn, seconded by Mr. Hahn, moved, — That the said bill be now read 
a second time. 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 



208 HOUSE OF COMMONS June 8, 1965 

Accordingly, the said bill was read the second time and referred to the 
Standing Committee on Railways, Canals and Telegraph Lines or to the pro- 
posed Standing Committee on Transport and Communications, as the case 
may be. 

The Order being read for the second reading of Bill S-7, An Act respecting 
Interprovincial Pipe Line Company; 

Mr. Wahn, seconded by Mr. Hahn, moved, — That the said bill be now read 
a second time. 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 

Debate was resumed on the proposed amended motion of Mr. Pearson, 
seconded by Mr. Mcllraith, — That this House recognizes the need for improving 
its procedures to provide full opportunity for the critical examination of 
proposed legislation and to ensure the effective dispatch of public business; 

That this House agrees upon the need for allocating the time for the 
business of the House; and 

That, in order to secure improved examination of the details of legislation 
and of public spending, while maintaining the full authority of the House, this 
House agrees upon the value of making increased use of Standing Committees; 

That this House accordingly orders: 

1. (a) That detailed examination of estimates, saving always the right 
of the Committee of Supply, be undertaken by Standing Committees 
and that not more than 30 days of the time of the House be allocated 
to the business of supply in each session. For the purpose of this order, 
the business of supply shall consist of main estimates; interim supply; 
and supplementary or additional estimates excepting supplementary or 
additional estimates introduced after the main estimates have been 
approved, and excepting always the final supplementary or additional 
estimates; 

(b) That the number of supply motions be reduced from six to four; 
and 

(c) That a Special Committee of the House, consisting of twenty- 
four members, to be designated later by the House, be instructed to 
prepare and to submit to the House forthwith the changes in Standing 
Orders consequential upon these orders, including any means of giving 
to the opposition an opportunity to select the departmental estimates 
to be discussed. 

2. That the Standing Orders be amended by adding thereto a new 
Standing Order 15- A, to read as follows: 

Standing Order 15- A 

15-A. (1) There shall be a Business Committee to which the leader 
of each party in the House from time to time by written notice to the 
Speaker may appoint one member. 

(2) During routine proceedings a Minister of the Crown may 
request that the question of allocation of time for consideration of any 
item of business or stage thereof be referred to the Business Committee 
for consideration and report, and upon such request being made such 
question shall stand referred to the committee. 



June 8, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 209 

(3) The Business Committee shall report back to the House on or 
before the third sitting day following such request. 

(4) If the Chairman of the Business Committee reports that the 
Committee has unanimously recommended an allocation of time for 
the item of business or stage thereof, a Minister of the Crown may 
without notice propose a motion, to be decided without debate or amend- 
ment, for concurrence in the report, and, if agreed to, the motion shall 
have the same effect as if it were an order of the House. 

(5) If the Chairman of the Business Committee reports that the 
committee has been unable to reach a unanimous agreement or if the 
committee fails to report within the time specified by Section (3) of this 
Standing Order, a Minister of the Crown may give notice that at the 
next sitting of the House he will move that an order be made allocating 
the time for the item of business or stage thereof. 

(6) A motion of which a Minister has given notice under Section 
(5) of this Standing Order shall be made during routine proceedings. 
Unless the debate on the motion has been previously concluded, Mr. 
Speaker shall at fifteen minutes before the expiry of the time provided 
for Government business in such sitting, interrupt the proceedings and 
forthwith put every question necessary to dispose of the main motion. 
A motion requesting allocation of time, if agreed to, shall have the 
same effect as if it were an order of the House. 

(7) No motion made by a Minister under Sections (5) and (6) of 
this Standing Order shall provide for the allocation of a period of time 
shorter than two days for the second reading, two days for the com- 
mittee stage, and one day for the third reading of any bill. For the 
purposes of this section, third reading shall be deemed to have been 
considered for one day provided the order for third reading is called 
as the first item under Government Orders on a Monday, Tuesday, Thurs- 
day or Friday, and provided it is continued, if necessary, until the normal 
time of adjournment on any such day; provided that if a representative 
of each party has not spoken, the hour for the adjournment of the 
sitting shall be extended until a representative of each party has had 
an opportunity to speak. Such an order having been called on any 
Monday, Tuesday, Thursday or Friday, it shall have precedence over all 
other business until the time of adjournment on that day, unless it 
is disposed of earlier. Under any other circumstances, a total of five 
hours shall be deemed to be the equivalent of one sitting day. 

(8) During debate on any item of business or stage thereof for 
which an allocation of time has been made under this Standing Order, 
if an amendment is proposed which in the opinion of Mr. Speaker 
materially changes the item of business or stage thereof and which 
raises any issue for which in the opinion of Mr. Speaker there has not 
been or otherwise will not be an adequate opportunity for discussion, 
Mr. Speaker may announce an extension of not more than two days to 
the allocated period of time. 

(9) The term "allocation of time", wherever used in this Standing 
Order, may include the allotting of time to any item of business, to 
any stage thereof, or to any part thereof, and may include the fixing of 
limits for the length of speeches. 



210 HOUSE OF COMMONS June 8, 1965 

3. That the orders of this House under numbered paragraph 1, the 
changes in Standing Orders consequential upon these Orders, and the 
new Standing Order 15A be continued in effect until the end of the 
next ensuing session, unless this House otherwise orders. 

And on the proposed motion of Mr. Bell, seconded by Mr. MacEwan, in 
amendment thereto, — That the motion be amended by inserting in the seventh 
line of subparagraph (6) of paragraph (2) thereof after the words *'if agreed 
to", the following words: "by at least sixty (60) percent of the members 
voting". 

And debate continuing; 

By unanimous consent, the said proposed amendment was withdrawn. 



By unanimous consent, on motion of Mr. Mcllraith, seconded by Mr. Pick- 
ersgill, paragraph 2 of Order No. 14 was referred to a Special Committee con- 
sisting of Members to be appointed later this day, with instructions to present 
its report back to the House by 11 a.m. on Friday, June 11, 1965. 

By unanimous consent, on motion of Mr. Mcllraith, seconded by Mr. Pick- 
ersgill, the said motion was further amended by "inserting the word 'and' 
after the words 'paragraph 1' in the first line of paragraph 3 and by striking 
out the words 'and the new Standing Order 15- A' where they occur in the sec- 
ond and third lines and by renumbering the paragraph as paragraph 2." 

And the question being put on the main motion as further amended, it 
was agreed to and is as follows: 

That this House recognizes the need for improving its procedures to pro- 
vide full opportunity for the critical examination of proposed legislation and to 
ensure the effective dispatch of public business; 

That this House agrees upon the need for allocating the time for the 
business of the House; and 

That, in order to secure improved examination of the details of legislation 
and of public spending, while maintaining the full authority of the House, this 
House agrees upon the value of making increased use of Standing Committees; 

That this House accordingly orders: 

1. (a) That detailed examination of estimates, saving always the right 
of the Committee of Supply, be undertaken by Standing Committees 
and that not more than 30 days of the time of the House be allocated 
to the business of supply in each session. For the purpose of this order, 
the business of supply shall consist of main estimates; interim supply; 
and supplementary or additional estimates excepting supplementary or 
additional estimates introduced after the main estimates have been 
approved, and excepting always the final supplementary or additional 
estimates; 

(b) That the number of supply motions be reduced from six to four; 
and 

(c) That a Special Committee of the House, consisting of twenty- 
four members, to be designated later by the House, be instructed to 



June 8, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 211 

prepare and to submit to the House forthwith the changes in Standing 
Orders consequential upon these orders, including any means of giving 
to the opposition an opportunity to select the departmental estimates 
to be discussed. 

2. That the orders of this House under numbered paragraph 1, and the 
changes in Standing Orders consequential upon this Order, be continued 
in efifect until the end of the next ensuing session, unless this House 
otherwise orders. 



The House resolved itself into Committee of the Whole to consider a certain 
proposed resolution to amend Standing Orders of the House of Commons; 
and progress having been made and reported the Committee obtained leave to 
consider it again at the next sitting of the House. 



By unanimous consent the House reverted to "Motions". 



On motion of Mr. Walker, seconded by Mr. Rinfret, it was ordered, — That 
the Special Committee appointed this day to consider certain procedures of the 
House be composed of the following Members Messrs: Beaule, Churchill, 
Knowles, Lambert, MacEachen, MacNaught, Mcllraith, Olson and Starr. 



(Proceedings on Adjournment Motion) 

At 10.02 o'clock p.m., the question "That this House do now adjourn" was 
deemed to have been proposed pursuant to provisional Standing Order 39-A; 

After debate thereon, the said question was deemed to have been adopted. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following paper having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
was laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Lamontagne, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Report to 
Parliament of the Civil Service Commission on Exclusions from the Civil 
Service Act and Appointments made under section 25 of the Act, January 1 
to December 31, 1964, pursuant to section 76(2) of the said Act, chapter 57, 
Statutes of Canada, 1960-61. (English and French). 



At 10.30 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put until tomorrow at 2.30 o'clock p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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No. 39 

JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, WEDNESDAY, JUNE 9, 1965. 

2.30 o'clock p.m. 



Prayers. 



Mr. Pearson, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, laid before the 
House, — Copies of letters, telegrams and papers exchanged between the Prime 
Minister of Canada and the Premiers of the Provinces concerning the proposed 
Federal-Provincial Conference. 



On motion of Mr. Walker, seconded by Mr. Rinfret, it was ordered, — That 
the name of Mr. Douglas be substituted for that of Mr. Knowles on the Stand- 
ing Committee on External Affairs or on the proposed Standing Committee on 
External Affairs. 



Pursuant to Standing Order 39(4) the following three Questions were made 
Orders of the House for Return, namely: 

No. 4 — Mr. Coates 

1. How many Royal Commissions have been initiated since April 8, 1963, 
and what are the subject-matters of the Commissions in question? 

2. What has been the total cost to date for each of the aforementioned 
Commissions and what is the estimated total cost of each Commission? 

3. How many enquiries have been initiated since April 8, 1963, that do not 
have the status of Royal Commissions but have demanded the appointment of 
individuals outside the Civil Service Commission and what is the subject-matter 
of each? 

4. What has been the cost to date of the enquiries in question and what is 
the estimated final cost of each? 

Mr. Stewart, Parliamentary Secretary to the Secretary of State, presented, 
— Return to the foregoing Order. 



214 HOUSE OF COMMONS June 9, 1965 

No. 461 — Mr. More 

1. Does Expo '67 employ consulting architectural firms and, if so (a) what 
are the names and addresses of such firms, and (b) what are the projects on 
which each firm is engaged? 

2. Does Expo '67 employ consulting engineering firms and, if so (a) what 
are the names and addresses of such firms, and (b) what are the projects 
on which each firm is engaged? 

Mr. Stewart, Parliamentary Secretary to the Secretary of State, presented, 
— Return to the foregoing Order. 

No. 547 — Mr. Coates 

1. What action has the federal government taken to assist in the settle- 
ment of the strike at Canadair, Montreal, Quebec? 

2. Have firms holding sub-contracts on government work with Canadair 
had to effect lay-offs and, if so, what action is being taken to assist 
the companies in question? 

Mr. Stewart, Parliamentary Secretary to the Secretary of State, presented, 
— Return to the foregoing Order. 



Notices of Motions for the Production of Papers Nos. 32, 39, and 41 were 
allowed to stand at the request of the government. 



Pursuant to provisional order adopted on April 20, 1964, it was ordered, — 
That there be laid before this House a copy of all letters and/or other 
communications received by the Minister of Labour or other Ministers of the 
Government in which objection has been taken to the Canadian Coat of Arms 
on the Social Insurance Number Card and/or requesting that the Maple Leaf 
as it appears on the flag be substituted therefor. — (Notice of Motion for the 
Production of Papers No. 42 — Mr. Diefenhaker) . 



The House resolved itself again into Committee of the Whole to consider 
a certain proposed resolution to amend Standing Orders of the House of Com- 
mons and progress having been made and reported the Committee obtained 
leave to consider it again at the next sitting of the House. 



[At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Private Members' Business was called pursuant 

to Standing Order 15(3)'} 

(Notices of Motions) 

Items numbered 10 and 11 having been called for the first time were 
allowed to stand. 



Mr. Rapp, seconded by Mr. Nasserden, moved, — That, in the opinion of this 
House, the government should consider the advisability of appointing a Royal 
Commission to investigate the increased costs of farm machinery across Can- 
ada, in relation to the price of farm products. — (Notice of Motion No. 12). 



June 9, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 215 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



At six o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put until tomorrow at 2.30 o'clock p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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No. 40 

JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, THURSDAY, JUNE 10, 1965. 

2.30 o'clock p.m. 



Prayers. 



Mr. Pickersgill, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, laid before the 
House, — (1) Copy of Order No. 4245 of the Air Transport Board, dated June 
1, 1965. (English and French). 

(2) Copy of the Judgment, dated June 9, 1965, in relation to the above 
Order. 

(3) Copy of Notice of Appeal by the President of Autair Helicopter 
Services Ltd., with respect to the above Order. 



On motion of Mr. Walker, seconded by Mr. Rinfret, it was ordered, — That 
the name of Mr. Pickersgill be substituted for that of Mr. MacEachen on the 
Special Committee on Procedures of the House of Commons. 



Mr. Peters, seconded by Mr. Knowles, by leave of the House, introduced 
Bill C-114, An Act to provide in Canada for the Dissolution and the Annulment 
of Marriage, which was read the first time and ordered for a second reading at 
the next sitting of the House. 

Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Mcllraith, moved, — That the House do go into 
Committee of the Whole at its next sitting to consider the following proposed 
resolution which has been recommended to the House by His Excellency: — 

That it is expedient to introduce a measure to amend the Bank Act and 
the Quebec Savings Banks Act to extend to December 31, 1965, the authority 
to carry on business for the banks to which these Acts apply. 

Resolved, — That the House do go into Committee of the Whole at its next 
sitting to consider the said proposed resolution. 



218 HOUSE OF COMMONS June 10, 1965 

The House resolved itself again into Committee of the Whole to consider 
a certain proposed resolution to amend Standing Orders of the House of Com- 
mons. 

And the House continuing in Committee; 

At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker took the Chair. 

IPrivate Members' Business was called pursuant to Standing Order 15(3)] 

(Private Bills) 

The House resumed debate on the proposed motion of Mr. Basford, seconded 
by Mr. Whelan, — That Bill C-95, An Act to incorporate Laurentide Bank of 
Canada, be now read a second time. 

And on the proposed motion of Mr. Belanger, seconded by Mr. Latulippe, 
in amendment thereto, — That the said Bill be not now read a second time, but 
that it be read a second time this day six months hence. 

And debate continuing; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



The House resumed consideration in Committee of the "Whole of a certain 
proposed resolution to amend Standing Orders of the House of Commons, and 
further progress having been made and reported the Committee obtained leave 
to consider it again at the next sitting of the House. 



(Proceedings on Adjournment Motion) 

At 10.07 o'clock p.m., the question "That this House do now adjourn" was 
deemed to have been proposed pursuant to provisional Standing Order 39- A; 

After debate thereon, the said question was deemed to have been adopted. 



At 10.32 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 
11.00 o'clock a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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No. 41 

JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, FRIDAY, JUNE 11, 1965. 



11.00 o'clock a.m. 

Prayers. 

Mr. Mcllraith, from the Special Committee on Procedures of the House of 
Commons, presented the First Report of the said Committee. 

Mr. Pickersgill, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, laid before the 
House, — Press Release dated June 11, 1965, by the Minister of Transport, 
concerning low water levels at the Port of Montreal. (English and French). 

Mr. Gordon, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, laid before the 
House, — Statement by the Minister of Finance, dated June 11, 1965, to- 
gether with three Reports with respect to the Canada Student Loans Act. 
(English and French). 

By unanimous consent, it was ordered that the said Statement and Reports 
be printed as an appendix to this day's Hansard. 

Mr. Mather, seconded by Mr. Knowles, by leave of the House, introduced 
Bill C-115, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (Impaired Driving), which 
was read the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting 
of the House. 

By unanimous consent, the House reverted to "Motions". 

Mr. Mcllraith, seconded by Mr. Pickersgill, moved, — That the First Report 
of the Special Committee on Procedures of the House of Commons, presented 
to the House earlier this day, be now concurred in. 

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June 11, 1965 



After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to on the following division: 

Yeas 







Messrs: 




Asselin (Richmond- 


Douglas, 


Konantz (Mrs.), 


Nixon, 


Wolfe), 


Drouin, 


Lachance, 


O'Keefe, 


Badanai, 


Drury, 


LaMarsh (Miss), 


Olson, 


Barnett, 


Dube, 


Lamontagne, 


Orlikow, 


Basford, 


Emard, 


Laniel, 


Patterson, 


Batten, 


Ethier, 


Laprise, 


Pepin, 


Beaule, 


Eudes, 


Latulippe, 


Perron, 


Bechard, 


Fairweather, 


Leblanc, 


Pickersgill, 


Benson, 


Fisher, 


Leduc, 


Pilon, 


Berger, 


Forest, 


Legault, 


Plourde, 


Blouin, 


Francis, 


Lessard (Lac-Saint- 


Prittie, 


Boutin, 


Frenette, 


Jean), 


Prud'homme, 


Byrne, 


Gauthier, 


Lessard (Saint- 


Rochon, 


Cadieux, 


Gelber, 


Henri), 


Rock, 


Cameron (Nanaimo- 


- Godin, 


Macaluso, 


Rondeau, 


Cowichan-The 


Gordon, 


Macdonald, 


Rouleau, 


Islands), 


Gray, 


Mackasey, 


Ryan, 


Cantin, 


Greene, 


MacNaught, 


Saltsman, 


Caouette, 


Guay, 


Mcllraith, 


Stewart, 


Caron, 


Habel, 


Martin (Essex East), 


Tardif, 


Carter, 


Hellyer, 


Martineau, 


Teillet, 


Cashin, 


Herridge, 


Mather, 


Temple, 


Cowan, 


Jewett (Miss), 


Matte, 


Thompson, 


Davis, 


Jones (Mrs.), 


Moreau, 


Tucker, 


Deachman, 


Kelly, 


Morison, 


Walker, 


Deschatelets, 


Klein, 


Mullally, 


Webster, 


Dionne, 


Knowles, 


Munro, 
Nays 
Messrs: 


Winch— 103. 


Alkenbrack, 


Dinsdale, 


Mcintosh, 


Simpson, 


Cantelon, 


Gundlock, 


Monteith, 


Southam, 


Cardiff, 


Hales, 


Moore, 


Starr, 


Chatterton, 


Lambert, 


Muir (Lisgar), 


Thomas, 


Churchill, 


MacEwan, 


Nielsen, 


Vincent, 


Clancy, 


MacLean (Queens), Pascoe, 


Wadds (Mrs.), 


Crouse, 


MacRae, 


Peters, 


Webb, 


Danforth, 


McCutcheon, 


Rapp, 


Winkler, 
Woolliams — 33. 



The said Report is as follows: 

Your Committee was established on Tuesday, June 8, 1965, when the House 
of Commons adopted the following resolution: 

Resolved, — That the following be referred to a Special Committee on the 
Procedures of the House of Commons, the membership to be appointed later 
this day, and that the Committee be instructed to report back to the House by 
11 a.m. on Friday, June 11, 1965, namely: 

2. That the Standing Orders be amended by adding thereto a new 
Standing Order 15- A, to read as follows: 

Standing Order 15- A 

15- A. (1) There shall be a Business Committee to which the leader 
of each party in the House from time to time by written notice to the 
Speaker may appoint one member. 



June 11, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 221 

(2) During routine proceedings a Minister of the Crown may request 
that the question of allocation of time for consideration of any item of 
business or stage thereof be referred to the Business Committee for con- 
sideration and report, and upon such request being made such question 
shall stand referred to the committee. 

(3) The Business Committee shall report back to the House on or 
before the third sitting day following such request. 

(4) If the Chairman of the Business Committee reports that the 
Committee has unanimously recommended an allocation of time for the 
item of business or stage thereof, a Minister of the Crown may without 
notice propose a motion, to be decided without debate or amendment, 
for concurrence in the report, and, if agreed to, the motion shall have 
the same effect as if it were an order of the House. 

(5) If the Chairman of the Business Committee reports that the 
committee has been unable to reach a unanimous agreement or if the 
committee fails to report within the time specified by Section (3) of this 
Standing Order, a Minister of the Crown may give notice that at the next 
sitting of the House he will move that an order be made allocating the 
time for the item of business or stage thereof. 

(6) A motion of which a Minister has given notice under Section 
(5) of this Standing Order shall be made during routine proceedings. 
Unless the debate on the motion has been previously concluded, Mr. 
Speaker shall at fifteen minutes before the expiry of the time provided 
for Government business in such sitting, interrupt the proceedings and 
forthwith put every question necessary to dispose of the main motion. 
A motion requesting allocation of time, if agreed to, shall have the same 
effect as if it were an order of the House. 

(7) No motion made by a Minister under Sections (5) and (6) of 
this Standing Order shall provide for the allocation of a period of time 
shorter than two days for the second reading, two days for the com- 
mittee stage, and one day for the third reading of any bill. For the 
puposes of this section, third reading shall be deemed to have been 
considered for one day provided the order for third reading is called as 
the first item under Government Orders on a Monday, Tuesday, Thurs- 
day or Friday, and provided it is continued, if necessary, until the normal 
time of adjournment on any such day; provided that if a representative 
of each party has not spoken, the hour for the adjournment of the sitting 
shall be extended until a representative of each party has had an 
opportunity to speak. Such an order having been called on any Monday, 
Tuesday, Thursday or Friday, it shall have precedence over all other 
business until the time of adjournment on that day, unless it is disposed 
of earlier. Under any other circumstances, a total of five hours shall be 
deemed to be the equivalent of one sitting day. 

(8) During debate on any item of business or stage thereof for which 
an allocation of time has been made under this Standing Order, if an 
amendment is proposed which in the opinion of Mr. Speaker materially 
changes the item of business or stage thereof and which raises any 
issue for which in the opinion of Mr. Speaker there has not been or 
otherwise will not be an adequate opportunity for discussion, Mr. 

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222 HOUSE OF COMMONS June 11, 1965 

Speaker may announce an extension of not more than two days to the 
allocated period of time. 

(9) The term "allocation of time", wherever used in this Standing 
Order, may include the allotting of time to any item of business, to any 
stage thereof, or to any part thereof, and may include the fixing of limits 
for the length of speeches. 

Later the same day, Messrs. Beaule, Churchill, Knowles, Lambert, Mac- 
Eachen, MacNaught, Mcllraith, Olson and Starr were appointed to serve on 
the Committee. On June 10, 1965, Mr. Pickersgill was designated to replace 
Mr. MacEachen on the Committee. 

Your Committee has considered the matters referred to it on June 8, 1965 
and recommends: 

(1) That the proposed Standing Order 15- A be reworded to read as follows: 
That the Standing Orders be amended by adding thereto a new Standing 
Order 15- A, to read as follows: 

Standing Order 15- A 

15-A. (1) There shall be a Business Committee to which the leader 
of each party in the House from time to time by written notice to the 
Speaker may appoint one member. 

(2) During routine proceedings a Minister of the Crown may propose 
that the question of allocation of time for any item of business, unless 
otherwise provided for, be referred to the Business Committee, and upon 
such proposal being made that question shall stand referred to the 
Committee. 

(3) The Business Committee shall report back to the House on or 
before the third sitting day following such reference. 

(4) If the Chairman of the Business Committee reports that the 
Committee has unanimously recommended an allocation of time for the 
item of business or stage thereof, a Minister of the Crown may without 
notice propose a motion, to be decided without debate or amendment, 
for concurrence in the report, and, if agreed to, the motion shall have 
the same effect as if it were an order of the House. 

(5) If the Chairman of the Business Committee reports that the 
committee has been unable to reach a unanimous agreement or if the 
committee fails to report within the time specified by Section (3) of 
this Standing Order, a Minister of the Crown, notwithstanding the pro- 
visions of Standing Order 41, may give notice of motion that at the 
next sitting of the House, provided that day is not a Wednesday, he 
will move that an order be made allocating the time for the item of 
business or stage thereof. 

(6) A motion of which a Minister has given notice under Section 
(5) of this Standing Order shall be made during routine proceedings. 
Unless the debate on the motion has been previously concluded, Mr. 
Speaker shall at fifteen minutes before the expiry of the time provided 
for Government business in such sitting, interrupt the proceedings and 
forthwith put every question necessary to dispose of the main motion. 
A motion requesting allocation of time, if agreed to, shall have the same 
effect as if it were an order of the House. 



June 11, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 223 

(7) No motion made by a Minister under Sections (5) and (6) of 
this Standing Order shall provide for the allocation of a period of time 
less than two days for the second reading, two days for the committee 
stage, and one day for the third reading of any bill. For the purposes of 
this section, third reading shall be deemed to have been considered for 
one day provided the order for third reading is called as the first item 
under Government Orders on a Monday, Tuesday, Thursday or Friday, 
and provided it is continued, if necessary, until the normal time of 
adjournment on any such day. Such an order having been called on any 
Monday, Tuesday, Thursday or Friday, it shall have precedence over all 
other business until the time of adjournment on that day, unless it is 
disposed of earlier. Under any other circumstances, a total of five hours 
shall be deemed to be the equivalent of one sitting day. 

(8) During debate on any item of business or stage thereof for which 
an allocation of time has been made under this Standing Order, if an 
amendment is proposed which in the opinion of Mr. Speaker raises any 
issue for which in the opinion of Mr. Speaker there has not been or 
otherwise will not be an adequate opportunity for discussion, Mr. 
Speaker may announce an extension of not more than two days to the 
allocated period of time. 

(9) When a debate on third reading of a bill is under a time alloca- 
tion order, under this Standing Order, Mr. Speaker shall have the 
authority to extend the sitting of the final day under such allocation 
order for a period not to exceed four hours, provided he has received 
written notice, given at least one hour prior to the normal time of ad- 
journment, from any member or members indicating their desire to 
speak and provided such member or members have not spoken and there 
is no opportunity for such member or members to speak prior to the 
normal time of adjournment. Any speech made in such extended time 
of sitting, unless it is being made by the representative of a party which 
had not had a speaker during the normal sitting hours, shall be limited to 
twenty minutes. No member shall be allowed to speak during such an 
extended sitting unless he has given notice as herein provided, and no 
member speaking during an extended sitting shall move any amend- 
ment or sub-amendment. At the request of any five members, any vote 
or division called for during an extended sitting shall be postponed 
until the next sitting day, and shall be taken as the first item under 
Government Orders on the said next sitting day without any further 
debate. 

(10) The term "allocation of time", wherever used in this Standing 
Order, may include the allotting of time to any item of business, to any 
stage thereof, or to any part thereof, and may include the fixing of 
limits for the length of speeches. 

(2) That the proposed Standing Order 15- A be continued in effect until the 
end of the next ensuing session, unless this House otherwise orders. 

This Report was adopted by the Committee, on division. 



The House resolved itself again into Committee of the Whole to consider 
a certain proposed resolution to amend Standing Orders of the House of 
Commons. 



224 HOUSE OF COMMONS June 11, 1965 

{In the Committee) 
The following resolution was adopted: 
That the following amendments be made to Standing Orders: 

1. That Standing Order 6 be deleted and the following substituted therefor: 

Standing Order 6 

6. (1) At 6:00 o'clock p.m. on Wednesdays and Fridays, and at 
10:00 o'clock p.m. on Mondays, Tuesdays and Thursdays, unless pro- 
vided otherwise in these Standing Orders, Mr. Speaker shall adjourn 
the House without question put until the next sitting day. 

(2) A motion that the House continue to sit after the hour specified 
in Section (1) may be made at any time without notice. If any member 
objects to the motion, Mr. Speaker shall request those members who 
object to rise in their places and if ten or more members then rise, the 
question shall not be put on the motion. If no member objects or if 
fewer than ten members rise in their places, the motion shall be deemed 
to be carried. No debate or formal vote shall be held on such a motion 
to extend a sitting. During an extended sitting, as provided under the 
provisions of this Section, no Order shall be called for consideration 
unless such Order was under consideration prior to the normal hour 
of adjournment. An extended sitting under the provisions of this 
Section, unless a closing time has been specified, shall not be terminated 
except by the adoption of a motion to adjourn and Mr. Speaker shall 
not deem that a motion to adjourn the House has been made by virtue 
of the operation of any other Standing Order. 

(3) If any member objects to the taking of a vote at any time be- 
tween 1:00 o'clock p.m. and 2:30 o'clock p.m. or between 
6:00 o'clock p.m., and 8:00 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker shall request those 
members who object to rise in their places and if five or more members 
rise, the taking of the vote shall be postponed. At 2:30 o'clock p.m. or 
at 8:00 o'clock p.m., as the case may be, Mr. Speaker shall interrupt 
the proceedings then before the House and shall put, or shall cause 
to be put, the question on any postponed vote. The House shall be 
deemed to have reverted to private members' business for such time 
as is necessary for the taking of any vote postponed from the time pro- 
vided for private members' business. 

(4) When it is provided in any Standing Order or in any Order 
of the House that the business under consideration at the ordinary time 
of adjournment be forthwith disposed of or concluded, Mr. Speaker 
shall not adjourn the House until the specified proceedings be completed. 

2. That Section (1) of Standing Order 12 be amended to read as follows: 

Standing Order 12, Section (I) 

12. (1) Mr. Speaker shall preserve order and decorum, and shall 
decide questions of order. In explaining a point of order or practice, he 
shall state the standing order or authority applicable to the case. No 
debate shall be permitted on any such decision, nor shall any such 
decision be subject to an appeal to the House. 



June 11, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 225 

3. That Sections (3) and (4) of Standing Order 15 be amended to read as 
follows: 

Standing Order 15, Sections (3) and (4) 

15. (3) Except as otherwise provided in these Standing Orders, the 
order of business for the consideration of the House, day by day, after 
the daily routine shall be as follows: 

(Monday) 

Questions. 

Government orders. 

(From six to seven o'clock p.m. — Private Members' Business) 

Notices of motions. 

(Tuesday) 

Government orders. 

Questions. 

(From six to seven o'clock p.m. — Private Members' Business) 

Private bills. 

Public bills. 

(Wednesday) 

Questions. 

Notices of motions for the production of papers. 

Government orders. 

(From five to six o'clock p.m. — Private Members' Business) 

Notices of motions. 

Public bills. 

(Thursday) 

Government orders. 

Questions. 

(From, six to seven o'clock p.ra. — Private Members' Business) 

A. On the first and each alternate Thursday thereafter: 
Notices of motions (papers). 

Private bills. 
Public bills. 

B. On the second and each alternate Thursday thereafter: 
Private bills. 

Notices of motions (papers). 
Public bills. 

(Friday) 

Government orders. 

Questions. 

(From five to six o'clock p.m. — Private Members' Business) 

Public bills. 

Private bills. 

(4) When a debate on a motion 'That Mr. Speaker do now leave 
the Chair" for the House to go into Committee of Supply is in progress 
at 6:00 o'clock p.m. on either a Monday or a Tuesday, the order for 
Private Members' Business on that day shall be suspended. 



226 HOUSE OF COMMONS June 11, 1965 

4. That Section (2) of Standing Order 18 be amended to read as follows: 

Standing Order 18, Section (2) 

Except as provided in Standing Orders 43 and 56, Government 
Orders may be called in such sequence as the Government may think fit. 

5. That Section (2) of Standing Order 31 be amended to read as follows: 

Standing Order 21, Section (2) 

31. (2) When the business of Private Members is being considered, 
no member shall speak for more than twenty minutes at a time. 

6. That Section (5) of Standing Order 39 be enacted to read as follows: 

Standing Order 39, Section (5) 

39. (5) Before the Orders of the Day are proceeded with, questions 
on matters of urgency may be addressed orally to Ministers of the 
Crown, provided however that if in the opinion of Mr. Speaker a ques- 
tion is not urgent, he may direct that it be placed on the Order Paper, 
provided also that the time allowed for a question period prior to the 
calling of the Orders of the Day shall not exceed thirty minutes, except 
on Mondays when the time allowed for a question period prior to the 
calling of Orders of the Day shall not exceed one hour. 

A member who is not satisfied with the answer given to a question 
asked on any day at this stage, or a member who has been told by Mr. 
Speaker that his question is not urgent, may give notice that he intends 
to raise the subject-matter of his question on the adjournment of the 
House. The notice referred to herein, whether or not it is given orally 
during the question period before the Orders of the Day, must be given 
in writing to Mr. Speaker not later than 5:00 o'clock p.m. the same day. 

7. That the Standing Orders be amended by adding thereto a new Standing 
Order 41 -A, to read as follows: 

Standing Order 41 -A 

41 -A. Unless notice of motion has been given under Standing Order 
41, any member proposing to raise a question of privilege other than one 
arising out of proceedings in the Chamber during the course of a sit- 
ting shall give to the Speaker a written statement of the question at least 
one hour prior to raising the question in the House. 

8. That Standing Order 43 be amended by adding thereto a new Section 
(2), to read as follows: 

Standing Order 43, Section (2) 

43. (2) When the debate on any motion, under Standing Order 
15, Section (2), is adjourned or interrupted the order for resumption of 
the same shall be transferred to and considered as the first Order under 
Government Orders. 

9. That Standing Order 44 be amended to read as follows: 

Standing Order 44 

44. When a question is under debate no motion is received unless 
to amend it; to postpone it to a day certain; for the previous question: 



June 11, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 227 

for reading the orders of the day; for proceeding to another order; to 
adjourn the debate; to extend the sitting of the House, or for the adjourn- 
ment of the House. 

10. That Section (4) of Standing Order 59 be amended to read as follows: 

Standing Order 59, Section (4) 

59. (4) The Chairman shall maintain order in the Committees of 
the Whole House, deciding all questions of order subject to an appeal 
to Mr. Speaker; but disorder in a committee can only be censured by 
the House, on receiving a report thereof. No debate shall be permitted 
on any decision. 

11. That Standing Order 65 be amended to read as follows: 

Standing Order 65 

65. (1) At the commencement of each session, a special committee, 
consisting of seven members, shall be appointed, whose duty it shall 
be to prepare and report, within ten sitting days after its appointment, 
lists of members to compose the following standing committees of the 
House: 

(a) on Agriculture, Forestry, and Rural Development, to consist of 45 
members; 

(b) on Broadcasting, Films and Assistance to the Arts, to consist of 
24 members; 

(c) on Crown Corporations, to consist of 24 members; 

(d) on External Affairs, to consist of 24 members; 

(e) on Finance, Trade and Economic Affairs, to consist of 24 members; 

(f) on Fisheries, to consist of 24 members; 

(fif) on Health and Welfare, to consist of 24 members; 

(h) on Housing, Urban Development and Public Works, to consist of 
24 members; 

(i) on Indian Affairs, Human Rights and Citizenship and Immigration, 
to consist of 24 members; 

(j) on Industry, Research and Energy Development, to consist of 24 
members ; 

(k) on Justice and Legal Affairs, to consist of 24 members; 

(I) on Labour and Employment, to consist of 24 members; 
(m) on Miscellaneous Estimates, to consist of 24 members; 

(n) on Miscellaneous Private Bills, to consist of 24 members; 

(o) on National Defence, to consist of 24 members; 

(p) on Northern Affairs and National Resources, to consist of 24 members; 

(q) on Privileges and Elections, to consist of 24 members; 

(r) on Public Accounts, to consist of 24 members; 

(s) on Standing Orders, to consist of 24 members; 

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228 HOUSE OF COMMONS June 11, 1965 

(t) on Transport and Communications, to consist of 24 members; and 
(u) on Veterans Affairs, to consist of 24 members. 

(2) The Special Committee shall also prepare and report with all 
convenient speed, lists of members to compose the following standing 
committees: 

On Printing, to act as members on the part of this House on the 
Joint Committee of both Houses on the subject of the printing of 
Parliament, to consist of 23 members; 

On the Library of Parliament, so far as the interests of this 
House are concerned, and to act as members of the Joint Committee 
of both Houses, to consist of 21 members; 

Provided that a sufficient number of members of joint com- 
mittees shall be appointed so as to keep the same proportion in such 
committees as between the memberships of the House of Commons 
and Senate. 

(3) A majority of the members of a standing committee shall con- 
stitute a quorum unless the House otherwise orders; 

Provided that, in the case of a joint Committee, the number of mem- 
bers constituting a quorum shall be such as the House of Commons 
acting in consultation with the Senate may determine. 

(4) The Standing Committees shall be severally empowered to 
examine and enquire into all such matters and things as may be referred 
to them by the House; to report from time to time their observations 
and opinions thereon; to send for persons, papers and records; and to 
print, from day-to-day, such papers and evidence as may be ordered by 
them, and Standing Order 66 shall not apply in relation thereto. 

(5) Any member of the House of Commons who is not a member 
of a standing committee, may, unless the House or the standing com- 
mittee otherwise orders, take part in the deliberations of the standing 
committee, but shall not vote or move any motion or any amendment or 
be counted in the quorum. 

12. That a Standing Order 68- A be added reading as follows: 
Standing Order 68-A 

68-A. In any Standing or special committee of the House questions 
of order shall be decided by the chairman, subject only to an appeal 
to the committee. 

13. That Standing Order 99 be amended to read as follows: 

Standing Order 99 

99. No Bill for the incorporation of a railway or canal company, or 
for authorizing the construction of branch lines or extensions of existing 
lines of railways or of canals, or for changing the route of the railway 
or of the canal of any company already incorporated, shall be con- 
sidered by the Committee on Transport and Communications, until there 
has been filed with the committee, at least one week before the con- 
sideration of the bill, a map or plan drawn upon a scale of not less than 
half an inch to the mile, showing the location upon which it is intended 
to construct the proposed work, and showing also the lines of existing 
or authorized works of a similar character within, or in any way affect- 



June 11, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 229 

ing the district, or any part thereof, which the proposed work is intended 
to serve; and such map or plan shall be signed by the engineer or other 
person making the same. 

14. That Standing Order 105 be amended to read as follows: 

Standing Order 105 

105. Every private bill, when read a second time, is referred to 
one of the standing committees as follows: bills relating to banks, 
insurance, trade and commerce and to trust and loan companies, to the 
Committee on Finance, Trade and Economic Affairs; bills relating to 
railways, canals, telegraphs, canal and railway bridges, to the Commit- 
tee on Transport and Communications; the bills not coming under these 
classes, to the Committee on Miscellaneous Private Bills, and all petitions 
for or against the bills are considered as referred to such committee. 

And that the foregoing amendments to Standing Orders be continued in 
effect until the end of the next ensuing session unless this House otherwise orders. 



Resolution to be reported. 



The said resolution was reported and concurred in. 



By unanimous consent, it was ordered, — That the French version of sec- 
tion (1) of Standing Order 15- A, in the First Report of the Special Committee 
on the Procedures of the House of Commons, adopted earlier this day, be 
amended by deleting the opening words "II doit etre forme" and substituting 
therefor the words "Est etabli". 



By unanimous consent, it was ordered, — That a consolidation of the 
procedural proposals adopted this week be printed as an appendix to this 
day's Votes and Proceedings and Hansard. 



By unanimous consent, on motion of Mr. Mcllraith, seconded by Mr. 
Pickersgill, it was resolved, — That, pursuant to resolution adopted June 8, 
1965, a Special Committee on Supply Procedures, to consist of twenty-four 
members to be designated later by the House, is hereby appointed and in- 
structed to prepare and submit forthwith such changes in the Standing Orders 
or Procedures of this House as will provide 

(a) That detailed examination of estimates, saving always the right 
of the Committee of Supply, be undertaken by Standing Committees and that 
not more than 30 days of the time of the House be allocated to the business 
of supply in each session. For the purpose of this order, the business of 
supply shall consist of main estimates; interim supply; and supplementary 
or additional estimates excepting supplementary or additional estimates in- 
troduced after the main estimates have been approved, and excepting always 
the final supplementary or additional estimates; 

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230 HOUSE OF COMMONS June 11, 1965 

(b) That the number of supply motions be reduced from six to four; 
and 

(c) Ways and means for giving to the Opposition an opportunity to select 
the order in which departmental estimates will be discussed. 

That the said Committee be empowered to report from time to time; and 
that the Committee be authorized to sit while the House is sitting; and that, in 
relation thereto, the provision of section (1) of Standing Order 67 be suspended. 



{At 5.00 o'clock p.m., Private Members' Business was called pursuant 

to Standing Order 15 (2) '\ 

(Public Bills) 

The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-3, An Act respect- 
ing the National Game of Canada (Lacrosse) ; 

Mr. Prittie, seconded by Mr. Mather, moved, — That the said bill be now 
read a second time. 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following paper having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
was laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Favreau, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Copy of an 
Agreement between the Government of Canada and the Government of the 
Province of Prince Edward Island for the use or employment of the Royal 
Canadian Mounted Police, pursuant to subsection (3) of section 20 of the 
Royal Canadian Mounted Police Act, Chapter 54, Statutes of Canada, 1959. 



At six o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put until Monday at 2.30 o'clock p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



14 ELIZABETH II— A.D. 1965 231 

No. 42 

JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, MONDAY, JUNE 14, 1965. 



2.30 o'clock p.m. 



The Clerk informed the House of the unavoidable absence of Mr. Speaker, 
whereupon Mr. Lamoureux (Stormont), Chairman of Committees, took the 
Chair as Deputy Speaker, pursuant to the Statute in that case made and pro- 
vided. 

Prayers. 

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, — That a corrected reprint of the 
appendix to Votes and Proceedings and Hansard of Friday, June 11, 1965, be 
appended to this day's Votes and Proceedings and Hansard. 



Mr. Deputy Speaker, on behalf of Mr. Speaker, laid before the House, — 
Extract from the Minutes of a meeting of the Commissioners of Internal Econ- 
omy of the House of Commons, held on Thursday, June 10, 1965, relating to 
classification changes affecting a number of positions in the House of Commons. 

CLASSIFICATION CHANGES AFFECTING A NUMBER OF POSITIONS IN 

THE HOUSE OF COMMONS 

The following changes in classification were authorized by the Commis- 
sioners of Internal Economy effective October 1, 1964. Employees whose posi- 
tions are reclassified shall be paid at the rate of pay in the new range which is 
nearest the rate of pay they were receiving immediately before the change in. 
classification and that would give them an increase as of the above effective 
date, that is at least equal to a full salary increase in the scale of rates of pay 
for the new classification. Employees appointed on October 1, 1964 or after 



232 HOUSE OF COMMONS June 14, 1965 

shall be paid at the rate shown immediately below the rate they were being 
paid on the date of appointment. Changes in classification and pay authorized 
shall apply only to employees on strength on June 10, 1965 and to those who 
have retired between the effective date of October 1, 1964 and the date of 
approval of June 10, 1965. 

SPEAKER'S OFFICE 

One of the two secretary positions is reclassified from its present range of 
$5280-5820 to the level of Supervising Clerk ($5520-5700-5880-6060). The 
other position remains at its present level for the time being. 



Speaker's Steward 






From: 4470 4650 


4830 


5010 


To: 4920 5100 


5280 


5460 


Speaker's Assistant Steward 






From: 3750 3900 


4050 


4200 


To: 3990 4140 


4290 


4440 



The above classifications to apply to the incumbents only so long as they 
remain employed in Mr. Speaker's Office. 

Secretary to the Co-ordinating Secretary for 
Parliamentary Associations 
From: Clerk 4 (4410-4860) 
To: Secretary (4820-5160) 

DEPUTY SPEAKER'S OFFICE 
Secretary to Deputy Speaker 



From: 4620 


4800 


4980 


5160 


To: 5040 


5220 


5400 


5580 


Receptionist 








From: 3930 


4080 


4230 


4380 


To: 4190 


4340 


4490 


4640 



The above classifications to apply to the incumbents only so long as they 
remain employed in the Deputy Speaker's Office. 

OFFICE OF THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE 

Secretary to the Clerk of the House 

From: 5280 5460 5640 5820 
To: 5850 6030 6210 6390 

Secretary to Clerk Assistant 

From: 5040 5220 5400 5580 
To: 5280 5460 5640 5820 

Secretary to Second Clerk Assistant 

From: 4620 4800 4980 5160 
To: 5040 5220 5400 5580 



June 14, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 233 

OFFICE OF THE SERGEANT- AT- ARMS 
Secretary to Sergeant-at-Arms 

From: 5280 5460 5640 5820 
To: 5520 5700 5880 6060 

LAW CLERK AND PARLIAMENTARY COUNSEL 

One Principal Clerk position ($5040-5580) is retitled Secretary, Law 
Branch to which the following salary range will apply: 
5280 5460 5640 5820 

OFFICES OF THE SMALL PARTY LEADERS 

An establishment of three positions is provided for each of the Leader of 
the New Democratic Party, the Leader of the Social Credit Party and the 
Leader of the Ralliement Creditiste. The classifications are as follows: 

1 Secretary ($4890 — one rate class) 

1 Secretary (steno) ($3960-4410) 

1 Stenographer ($3960-4410) 

The two top positions are reclassified and retitled as follows: 
1 Private Secretary ($5040-5220-5400-5580), provided the incumbent has 
at least five years of office experience. 
1 Secretary ($4410-4560-4710-4860) 

The above classifications to apply to the incumbents only so long as they 
remain in the office of a small party leader. 

OFFICE OF THE CHIEF GOVERNMENT WHIP 
OFFICE OF THE CHIEF OPPOSITION WHIP 

The regular establishment in each of these two offices is: 
1 Secretary to Government (or Opposition) Whip 

($5790-6330) 
1 Secretary ($3960-4410) 
1 Confidential Messenger ($3570-4020) 

The following changes, both in the titles of the positions and in the salary 
ranges, are approved: 

1 Executive Assistant, Chief Government Whip (or Chief Opposition Whip) 
($5790-6330; same as above) 

1 Secretary, Chief Government Whip (or Chief Opposition Whip) to which 
the following salary will apply: 

$4620-4800-4980-5160, provided the incumbent has at least five years of 
office experience. 

The above classifications to apply to incumbents only so long as they re- 
main employed in the office of either the Government Whip or the Opposi- 
tion Whip. 

OFFICES OF THE SMALL PARTY WHIPS 

Secretaries to small party Whips are reclassified from Members' Stenogra- 
pher ($3960-4410) to Secretary ($4620-5160), provided they have at least five 
years of office experience. The latter classification to apply to these employees 
only so long as they remain as secretaries to small party Whips. 



234 HOUSE OF COMMONS June 14, 1965 

BUILDING SERVICES 

PROTECTIVE SERVICE 

Constable, Protective Service 

From: 3930 4080 4230 4380 

To: 4080 4230 4380 4530 4680 

Sergeant, Protective Service 

From: 4260 4410 4560 4710 

To: 4560 4740 4920 5100 5280 

The class Assistant Chief of Protective Service is retitled Deputy Chief of 
Protective Service with no change in the salary range. 



Chief of Protective Service 






From: 6120 6300 


6480 


6720 


To: 6480 6660 


6900 


7140 



CLEANING SERVICE 

Cleaning Service Man 

From: 3050 3200 3350 3500 
To: 3170 3320 3470 3620 

A supervisory differential of $15.00 per month is further authorized to 
be paid to ten principal cleaners, one per floor in each of the Centre Block and 
the West Block. 



Foreman 










From: 


3350 


3500 


3650 


3800 


To: 


3810 


3960 


4110 


4260 



PARLIAMENTARY MESSENGERS 
Messenger 

From: 3050 3200 3350 3500 
To: 3170 3320 3470 3620 

Receptionist 

From: 3930 4080 4230 4380 
To: 4190 4340 4490 4640 

The Confidential Messenger position assigned to the Second Clerk Assist- 
ant's Office is reclassified to Receptionist. 



Confidential Messenger 






From: 3570 3720 


3870 


4020 


To: 3750 3900 


4050 


4200 



The sessional Messenger position allocated to the Director of Administra- 
tion and the Director of Legislative Services is reclassified to Confidential 
Messenger, continuous. The incumbent also provides special services to the 
Director of Legislative Services in his role as Third Clerk Assistant and mes- 
senger service to the Executive Assistant to the Speaker and the Co-ordinating 
Secretary for Parliamentary Associations. 



June 14, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 235 

Messenger-Driver 

From: 4050 (flat rate) 
To: 4200 (flat rate) 



senger-Despatcher 






From: 3270 3420 


3570 


3720 


To: 3750 3900 


4050 


4200 



Assistant Chief of Parliamentary Messengers 
From: 4860 5040 5220 5400 
To: 5040 5220 5400 5580 

Chief of Parliamentary Messengers 

From: 5310 5490 5670 5910 
To: 5610 5790 5970 6210 



PAGE STAh'h' 








Page 








From: 1550 








To: 1680 








Speaker's Page 








From: 1680 








To: 1740 








Senior Page 








From: 2910 


3060 


3210 


3360 


To: 3170 


3320 


3470 


3620 


Assistant Chief of Pages 






From: 3750 


3900 


4050 


4200 


To: 4190 


4340 


4490 


4640 


Chief of Pages 








From: 4260 


4410 


4560 


4710 


To: 4860 


5040 


5220 


5400 



PURCHASING, EQUIPMENT AND TRADESMEN BRANCH 

Chief of Equipment, Purchaser and Storekeeper 
From: 6120 6300 6480 6720 
To: 6480 6660 6900 7140 

One Clerk 3 position ($3900-4350) is re 

Tradesmen 



1 Locksmith 

1 Assistant Locksmith 
3 Carpenters 

2 Upholsterers 

2 Furniture Finishers 
1 Radio Technician 



ssified to 


Clerk 4 


($4410-4860) 


From: 




To: 


4230 




5100 


3810 




4260 


4260 




4560 


4230 




4560 


4260 




4560 


4260 




4560 



236 HOUSE OF COMMONS June 14, 1965 

PURCHASING EQUIPMENT AND TRADESMEN BRANCH— Continued 
Tradesmen — Continued 

1 Barber 4300 4500 

1 Barber 4100 4500 

1 Masseur 4300 4500 

I Tailor 4050 4500 

1 Shoe-Shiner 1490 1600 

JOINT PARLIAMENTARY RESTAURANT 
Manager, Parliamentary Restaurant 

From: 7200 7500 7860 8220 
To: 9000 9300 9600 10000 

Assistant Manager, Parliamentary Restaurant 

This is a new position to which the following salary range will apply: 
7500 7800 8100 8500 

Maitre d'Hotel 

Under the approved re-allocation of functions, the Maitre d'Hotel will be 
concerned only with the Dining Room and special functions. The following 
salary range is approved for this new position: 

5750 6000 6250 6500 (meals and uniforms supplied). 

Chief Purchasing Agent 

This again is a new position to which the following salary range will apply: 
5340 5520 5700 5880 6060 

Chief Steward and Storekeeper 

At present, the Steward and Storekeeper is employed on a sessional basis 
as assistant to the Purchasing Agent and Storekeeper. Since the duties of the 
new Purchasing Agent position do not include direct supervision of the stores, 
a continuous position of Chief Steward and Storekeeper is established to which 
the following salary range will apply: 

4380 4560 4740 4920 5100 

Manager, Coffee Shop 

This is a new position for the 5th Floor Coffee Shop. The following salary 
range will apply: 

4860 5040 5220 5400 

Office Stajf 

For the Joint Parliamentary Restaurant office, a position of Bookkeeper, 
Parliamentary Restaurant ($5040-5580) is established. 

One Clerk 1 position ($2190-2910) is reclassified to Clerk 3 ($3900-4350) 
with knowledge of shorthand and typing. 

Chef, Parliamentary Restaurant 

From: 6750 6990 7230 7470 
To: — 8400 9000 9600 



June 14, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 237 

Hostess, Parliamentary Restaurant 

From: 3030 3180 3330 3480 
To: — 3480 3630 3780 

SESSIONAL STAFF 



West Block Cafeteria 
1 Cashier, Cafeteria 
4 Dishwashers 
1 Head Dishwasher 

4 Floor Girls 

6 Counter Girls 
1 Bus Boy 

Fifth Floor Cafeteria 
1 Assistant Hostess 

1 Cashier 

2 Counter Girls 
1 Floor Girl 

1 Dishwasher 

Service Room — Sixth Floor 
1 Linen Room Attendant 
1 Head Dishwasher 
1 Assistant Head Dishwasher 
1 Dishwasher — Potwasher 

5 Dishwashers 

1 Head — Service Room 

3 Service Room Assistants 

Office 

1 Clerk Grade 2 

Sixth Floor Kitchen 

1 Assistant Chef 

1 Sauce Chef 

1 Roast & Broiler Chef 

1 Cold Meat Chef 

1 Fry Chef 

1 Pot Washer 

1 Night Watchman 

1 Sauce Chef Assistant 

1 Swing Chef 

1 Cold Meat Assistant 

West Block Kitchen 

1 Second Assistant Chef-Night 
1 Sauce Chef Assistant 

1 First Cook 

2 Cold Meat Assistants 

2 Second Cooks, Cafeteria 
1 Night Watchman 



From: 


To: 


2250-2400-2520 


2360-2500-2640 


2148 


2360 


2520 


2640 


2064 


2360 


2064 


2360 


2040 


2360 


2580 


2810 


2400 


2360-2500-2640 


2064 


2360 


2064 


2360 


2148 


2360 


2280 


2360 


2520 


2640 


2268 


2400 


2220 


2570 


2148 


2360 


2520 


2640 


2160 


2360 


2970-3420 


2970-3420 


4410-4950 


5000-5500-6000 


4020 


4200 


3600 


3825 


3780 


4000 


3420 


3820 


2220 


2570 


2160 


2400 


3120 


3480 


unclassified 


4160 


3432 


3480 


unclassified 


4200 


3120 


3480 


3540 


3825 


3432 


3480 


2760 


2800 


2160 


2400 



238 



HOUSE OF COMMONS 



June 14, 1965 



SESSIONAL STAFF- 
West Block Kitchen — Continued 
1 Pot Washer 

1 Vegetable Woman 

2 Kitchen Porters 
1 Pastry Cook 

1 Assistant Pastry Cook 
1 Butcher 

Main Dining Room 
1 Assistant Hostess 
1 Cashier 
1 Food Checker 
15 Waitresses 

3 Bus Boys 

1 Equipment Man and Storekeeper 



•Continued 






2220 




2570 


2220 




2420 


2760 




2880 


4320 
unclassified 




4440 
3480 


3540 




3825 


2580 




2810 


2400 


2360 


-2500-2640 


2400 


2360 


-2500-2640 


2064 




2360 


2040 




2360 


3000 




3120 



ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES 

The position of Secretary to the Director of Administration is reclassified 
from Secretary ($4620-5160) to Principal Clerk ($5040-5580). The change 
affects the position only. 

HEALTH UNIT 

In view of the number of employees served by the above Unit and 
the large number of visitors during the tourist season, one position of Nurse 
2 is added to the establishment. The class Parliamentary Nurse is further 
revised 

From: 4590 4740 4890 5040 

To: 5100 5280 5460 5640 

PARLIAMENTARY DISTRIBUTION OFFICE 
Chief of Parliamentary Distribution Office 
From: 6090 6270 6450 6630 



To: 



6660 



6900 



7140 



7380 



One Principal Clerk position ($5040-5580) is reclassified to Assistant Chief 
of Parliamentary Distribution Office with the following salary range: 
5790 5970 6150 6330 

The second Principal Clerk position is reclassified to Supervising Clerk 
($5520-6060). 



POSTAL BRANCH 

The present establishment of the House 
follows: 

1 Postmaster ($6990-7710) 

1 Assistant Postmaster ($5790-6330) 

1 Principal Clerk ($5040-5580) 
5 Clerk 4 ($4410-4860) 

9 Clerk, sessional (at a flat rate of $4080) 

2 Messenger, sessional ($3050-3500) 



of Commons Post Office is as 



June 14, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 239 

This establishment is amended as follows: 

1 Postmaster 

From: 6990 7230 7470 7710 
To: 7260 7560 7920 8280 

1 Assistant Postmaster ($5790-6330) 

2 Shift Supervisor 

5160 5340 5520 5700 

7 Postal Clerk, continuous 

3630 3780 3930 4080 4230 4380 

4530 4680 — increases semi-annual up to and including 
$3930 

2 Messenger, continuous ($3170-3620) 

7 Postal Clerk, sessional 

3330 3480 3630 3780 3930 4080 

4230 4380 — increases semi-annual up to and including 

$3630 

STATIONERY AND REQUISITIONS BRANCH 
Chief of Stationery and Requisitions Branch 
From: 6990 7230 7470 7710 
To: 7260 7560 7920 8280 

1 Clerk 4 ($4410-4860) reclassified to Storeman 3 ($4320-4770— effective 

only after Group D salary revisions have been announced.) 

2 Clerk Messenger ($3170-3620) reclassified to Storeman 1 ($3690-3840- 

3990-4140) 

The position of Assistant Chief, Stationery and Requisitions Branch is 
re-instated at the level of Administrative Officer 1 ($5910-6630). 

MEMBERS' STENOGRAPHERS BRANCH 

No change is effected in this Branch for the moment. It is the subject of 
a separate study the results of which will be known in the near future. 

PERSONNEL OFFICE 

Chief of Personnel (while acting as Secretary of the Staff Board) 
From: 9900 10400 10800 11200 11600 
To: — 10900 11300 11800 12300 

Assistant Chief of Personnel 

From: 7890 8250 8610 8970 

To: 7800 8160 8520 8880 9240 9600 

2 Clerk 3 ($3900-4350) reclassified to Clerk 4 ($4410-4860) 

PRESS GALLERY 

No changes are approved for the moment. 



240 HOUSE OF COMMONS June 14, 1965 

LEGISLATIVE SERVICES 

The position of secretary to the Director of Legislative Services is reclassi- 
fied from Secretary ($4620-5160) to Principal Clerk ($5040-5580). 

HANSARD REPORTING SERVICE (ENGLISH) 
HANSARD REPORTING SERVICE (FRENCH) 
COMMITTEE REPORTING SERVICE (ENGLISH) 
COMMITTEE REPORTING SERVICE (FRENCH) 

In the Hansard Reporting Service (English) one employee classified as 
Secretary ($4620-5160) is reclassified to Principal Clerk $5040-5580), the classi- 
fication differential to apply to the present incumbent only. 

Also in the Hansard Reporting Service (English) one editor position is 
added to the establishment. The following salary range will apply to this 
position: 

8610 8970 9330 9690 10050 

If and when the House decides to sit continuously on a permanent basis 
without meal intervals, two additional Hansard Reporters will be added to 
the English Reporting Service; these employees are to be selected from amongst 
present Committee Reporters. 

Clerk Messenger, sessional (flat rate of $2610), to Clerk 1, sessional ($2190- 
2280-2370-2460-2550-2640-2730-2820-2910; with semi-annual in- 
creases). 

There are positions in the above class in each of the first three services 
mentioned above and an additional position is established for the French 
Committee Reporting Service. 

Chief of Committee Reporting Service (English) 
From: 9380 9780 10200 10620 
To: 9620 9980 10380 10800 

COMMITTEES AND PRIVATE LEGISLATION BRANCH 

Three levels in the work to be performed by Committee Clerks is estab- 
lished, as follows: 

Committee Officer 1 

5040 5280 5520 5760 6060— increases semi-an- 
annual up to and including $5760. 

Committee Officer 2 

$7350 7650 7950 8310 (as compared with the present range for the 
class Committee Clerk v/hich is: $6660 6900 7140 7380) 

Committee Officer 3 

9120 9480 9880 10300 

The establishment of the Committees and Private Legislation Branch is 
further amended as follows: 
2 Committee Officer 3 
8 Committee Officer 2 
1 Committee Officer 1 



June 14, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 241 

If and when the House decides in favour of the new committee structure 
set forth in Government Orders 14 and 15, two additional Committee Officer 3 
positions and one additional Committee Officer 1 will be required. 

Chief of Committees and Private Legislation Branch 
From: 9900 10400 10800 11200 11600 
To: — 10900 11300 11800 12300 

Assistant Chief of Committees and Private Legislation Branch 

From: 8190 8490 8790 9090 9390 

To: — 9620 9980 10380 10800 

1 Members' Stenographer, sessional, to Members' Stenographer, continuous. 

JOURNALS BRANCH (ENGLISH) 
JOURNALS BRANCH (FRENCH) 



Chief of English Journals 








Chief of French Journals 








From: 9900 10400 


10800 


11200 


11600 


To: — 10,900 


11300 


11800 


12300 



Assistant Chief of English Journals 
Assistant Chief of French Journals 



From: 


8190 


8490 


8790 


9090 


9390 


To: 


— 


9620 


9980 


10380 


10800 



Secretary (English Journals only) ($4620-5160) reclassified to Principal 
Clerk ($5040-5220-5400-5580) 



Clerk of Orders 




From: 5790 5970 6150 


6330 


To: 6990 7230 7470 


7710 


Clerk of Parliamentary Papers 




From: 5790 5970 6150 


6330 


To: 6480 6660 6900 


7140 


Principal Clerk ($5040-5580) to Administrative Officer 1 ($5910-6630) 



INDEX AND REFERENCE BRANCH (ENGLISH) 
INDEX AND REFERENCE BRANCH (FRENCH) 

The establishment in both Branches is basically as follows: 

1 Chief ($8190-9390) 

1 Supervising Clerk ($5520-6060) 

1 Principal Clerk ($5040-5580) 

2 Clerk 4 ($4410-4860) 

1 Office Composing Equipment Operator 3 ($3900-4350) 
1 Stenographer, sessional ($3960-4410) 



242 HOUSE OF COMMONS Jirne 14, 1965 

One Clerk 4 position in each of the two Branches is reclassified to Office 
Composing Equipment Operator 4. The salary range is the same but the title 
is more descriptive of the work done. The sessional stenographers, one in each 
Branch, become continuous. 

The other so-called clerical positions in each of the two Branches are re- 
classified into two new classes called Reference Indexer and Index Reference 
Analyst, as follows: 

Reference Indexer 1 

4860 5040 5220 5400 5580 

Two Clerk 4 positions, one in each Branch, would be allocated this new 
class and grade, provided the incumbents are capable of performing the work 
at its full level. The Principal Clerk position in the French Index Branch is also 
reclassified into this new class and grade for the time being. One additional 
position at this level in each Branch is also established. 

Reference Indexer 2 

5640 5880 6180 6480 

This new class and grade applies only to the Principal Clerk position in 
the English Index Reference Branch. 

Index Reference Analyst 

6480 6660 6900 7140 

The two Supervising Clerk positions, one in each Branch, will fall into 
that class. 

Chief of Index and Reference Branch 

Chief of French Index and Reference Branch 

From: 8190 8490 8790 9090 9390 

To: — 9620 9980 10380 10800 



Mr, Harley, from the Special Committee on Food and Drugs, presented the 
First Report of the said Committee, which was read as follows: 

Your Committee recommends that its quorum be reduced from 13 to 9 
Members and that Standing Order 67(2) be suspended in relation thereto. 



Mr. Pearson, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, laid before the 
House, — Copy of Joint Communique, dated June 14, 1965, issued following the 
visit to Canada of Prime Minister Shastri of India. 

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, — That the said Joint Communique 
be printed as an appendix to this day's Hansard. 



Pursuant to Standing Order 39(4) the following six Questions were made 
Orders of the House for Returns, namely: 

No. 373 — Mr. Fisher 

1. Did the Minister of Labour receive a request or requests from any 
CivU Service Staff Association for a meeting with him to discuss the transfer 



June 14, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 243 

of National Employment Service staff from the Unemolovment Insurance Com- 
mission to the Department of Labour, if so, what was the gist of such requests 
and did the Minister have any meetings with staff association representatives 
to explain the effects this transfer may have on staff morale? 

2. Since the Minister of Labour announced the transfer of the National 
Employment Service to the Department of Labour has there been any directives 
or instructions issued to field offices of the Unemployment Insurance Commis- 
sion as to how they are to administrate the operations of the Unemployment 
Insurance Commission and the National Employment Service, either jointly, or 
as separate operations; if so, what was the nature of such directions and 
instructions and will the Minister have them tabled for the information of the 
House? 

3. Did the Minister of Labour or any of his officials make any representa- 
tions to the Civil Service Commission and Treasury Board for higher salaries 
to be paid the present staff of the National Employment Service; if so, what 
action has been taken by those two bodies to implement the Department of 
Labour recommendations and what will be the retroactive dates for such salary 
increases? 

4. Have any representations been made by the Minister of Labour or his 
officials to the Civil Service Commission, for any or all senior positions in the 
National Employment Service being created since the transfer to the Depart- 
ment of Labour to be filled by open competition, rather than reclassify, present 
National Employment Service staff now occupying present supervisory and man- 
agerial positions at the various levels? 

5. Has there been any instruction issued, or authority given by the 
Minister of Labour, Civil Service Commission or Treasury Board for a "fitness 
review" to be held of all or part of the National Employment Service staff trans- 
ferred from the Unemployment Insurance Commission to the Department of 
Labour, April 1, 1965; if so, what is the gist of such instructions and authority? 

6. Is it a general practice in federal government departments to conduct 
"fitness reviews" of regular staff; if so, are those reviews conducted through 
the Civil Service Commission or by officials of the department concerned? 

7. What actually are the Civil Service Commission's authority and respon- 
sibility concerning reclassification of positions; are they or the department con- 
cerned responsible for interviewing present incumbent of such positions and 
making the necessary recommendation for or against the reclassifications? 

8. Has the National Employment Service, Department of Labour, Civil 
Service Commission or Treasury Board, issued any instructions or directives 
requiring future officers positions in the National Employment Service to be 
filled by university graduates; if so, has there been any criteria established 
naming the professional fields those graduates are to be recruited from? 

Mr. Lamontagne, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, presented, — 
Return to the foregoing Order. 



No. 429 — Mr. Martineau 
1. Have any officials of the Centennial Commission resigned their office 
and, if so (a) what are their names (b) what positions did they occupy with 



244 HOUSE OF COMMONS June 14, 1965 

the Centennial Commission (c) what reasons motivated their resignations 
(d) have any persons been appointed to replace them and, if so, who are they? 

2. How many projects have been approved by the Centennial Commis- 
sion to date? 

3. What is, in each case, the name of the project so approved, the 
province of origin and the cost thereof? 

Mr. Lamontagne, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, presented, — 
Return to the foregoing Order. 

No. 451 — Mr. Laprise 

1. Since the introduction of ARDA in Quebec (a) what projects have been 
carried out (b) what projects are in progress, and (c) what projects are being 
planned? 

2. What is the value of each of these projects? 

Mr. Lamontagne, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, presented, — 
Return to the foregoing Order. 

No. 564 — Mr. Duhe 
In each year since 1960, what have been the total amounts expended by 
the federal government, including per capita grants, in assistance to education 
in the Province of New Brunswick? 

Mr. Lamontagne, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, presented, — 
Return to the foregoing Order. 

No. 589 — Mr. Douglas 

1. What was the rate of pay, by classification, for prevailing rate employees 
at HMCS Dockyard, Halifax, prior to January 1, 1964? 

2. What increases were granted to these employees effective January 1, 
1964? 

3. Have any further increases been granted since January 1, 1964 and, if so, 
on what date and what were the increases? 

4. Were any prevailing rate employees excluded from receiving these 
increases and, if so, what were the reasons for such an exclusion? 

5. Are driver-operators classified below labourers on the wage scale and, 
if so, for what reason? 

6. How do the wage rates for these prevailing rate employees in Halifax 
compare with wage rates paid to similar prevailing rate employees in British 
Columbia? 

Mr. Lamontagne, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, presented, — 
Return to the foregoing Order. 

No. 590 — Mr. Douglas 

1. What was the rate of pay, by classification, for prevailing rate employees 
included under the Halifax-Dartmouth area rates prior to July 1, 1964? 

2. What increases in wage rates have been granted to these employees since 
June 30, 1964? 

3. What was the reason that these employees were not granted an increase 
effective January 1, 1964, as were the prevailing rate employees at HMCS 
Dockyard, Halifax? 

4. Were any prevailing rate employees excluded from receiving this increase 
and, if so, what were the reasons for such an exclusion? 



June 14, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 245 

5. Have any increases been granted to such employees subsequently? 

6. Why are prevailing rate employees of the heavy equipment section de- 
moted to driver-operators between May 1 and October 1? 

7. What is the difference in the rate of pay for heavy equipment operators 
and driver-operators? 

8. How do the wage rates for these prevailing rate employees compare with 
wage rates paid to similar prevailing rate employees in British Columbia? 

Mr. Lamontagne, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, presented, — 
Return to the foregoing Order. 



The House resumed debate on the proposed motion of Mr. Gordon, 
seconded by Mr. Favreau, — That Bill C-102, An Act respecting Banks and 
Banking, be now read a second time. 

And debate continuing; 



[At 6.00 o'clock p.m., Private Members' Business was called pursuant to 
provisional Standing Order 15{3)'\ 

(Notices of Motions) 

Mr. Laniel, seconded by Mr. Groos, moved, — That, in the opinion of this 
House, the government should consider the advisability of undertaking a search- 
ing study of the youth problem in Canada, paralleling the possibility of setting 
up in the country a "National Training Service" for young people between the 
ages of 18 and 21 years, and 

That, to this end, there should be appointed a Commission made up of 
representatives of the various bodies concerned with health, education, employ- 
ment, and the Armed Forces, charged with reporting to this House on the advan- 
tages and disadvantages of such a "National Training Service", particularly 
with regard to the following points: 

1. Discipline and respect for our institutions and for authority. 

2. The possibility of its complementing training and education. 

3. Improvement in health through physical education. 

4. A means of promoting bilingualism among the young. 

5. Strengthening of national unity through better knowledge of the 
country and its various ethnic groups. 

6. Co-ordination with the Emergency Measures Organization. 

7. Advantages in the Service being run by the Armed Forces or other 
similar body. 

8. Possible duration of such a service and particular application to stu- 
dents. — (Notice of Motion No. 10). 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



Debate was resumed on the proposed motion of Mr. Gordon, seconded by 
Mr. Favreau, — That Bill C-102, An Act respecting Banks and Banking, be now 
read a second time. 



246 HOUSE OF COMMONS June 14, 1965 

After further debate, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 

Accordingly, the said bill was read the second time and referred to the 
Standing Committee on Finance, Trade and Economic Affairs. 

The House resolved itself into Committee of the Whole to consider a certain 
proposed resolution to amend the Bank Act and the Quebec Savings Banks Act. 

(In the Committee) 

The following resolution was adopted: 

Resolved, — That it is expedient to introduce a measure to amend the Bank 
Act and the Quebec Savings Banks Act to extend to December 31, 1965, the 
authority to carry on business for the banks to which these Acts apply. 

Resolution to be reported. 



The said resolution was reported and concurred in. 



Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Mcllraith, by leave of the House, presented 
Bill C-116, An Act to amend the Bank Act and the Quebec Savings Banks Act, 
which was read the first time. 

By unanimous consent, the said bill was read the second time, considered in 
Committee of the Whole, reported without amendment, read the third time and 
passed. 



Bill C-103, An Act respecting Savings Banks in the Province of Quebec, 
was read the second time, and referred to the Standing Committee on Finance, 
Trade and Economic Affairs. 



The House resolved itself again into Committee of Ways and Means and 
progress having been made and reported, the Committee obtained leave to sit 
again at the next sitting of the House. 



(Proceedings on Adjournment Motion) 

At 10.01 o'clock p.m., the question "That this House do now adjourn" was 
deemed to have been proposed pursuant to provisional Standing Order 39- A; 

After debate thereon, the said question was deemed to have been adopted. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Benidickson, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Report with 
respect to Operations under the Coal Production Assistance Act for the year 
ended March 31, 1965, pursuant to section 9 of the said Act, chapter 173, R.S.C., 
1952, as amended 1959. (English and French). 



June 14, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 247 

By Mr. Lamontagne, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Return to 
an Order of the House, dated May 19, 1965, for copies of all correspondence 
between the Prime Minister and/or the Minister of Transport and the President 
of the C.P.R., Mr. R. A. Emerson and the President of the C.N.R., Mr. Donald 
Gordon in 1965, regarding the needs of the two railways for a subsidy from the 
federal government to meet increased costs of labour and the inability of the 
railways to increase their freight rates. — {Notice of Motion for the Production 
of Papers No. 28). 

By Mr. Mcllraith, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Copies of 
Statutory Orders and Regulations published in the Canada Gazette, Part II, of 
Wednesday, June 9, 1965, pursuant to section 7 of the Regulations Act, chapter 
235, R.S.C., 1952. (English and French). 



At 10.19 o'clock p.m., Mr. Deputy Speaker adjourned the House without 
question put until tomorrow at 2.30 o'clock p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 
2(1). 



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OTTAWA, TUESDAY, JUNE 15, 1965. 



2.30 o'clock p.m. 

The Clerk informed the House of the unavoidable absence of Mr. Speaker, 
whereupon Mr. Lamoureux (Stormont), Chairman of Committees, took the 
Chair as Deputy Speaker, pursuant to the Statute in that case made and pro- 
vided. 

Prayers. 

Mr. Matheson, from the Standing Committee on External Affairs, presented 
the First Report of the said Committee, which was read as follows: 

Your Committee recommends that it be granted leave to sit while the House 
is sitting. 

Mr. Nesbitt, seconded by Mr. Hamilton, by leave of the House, introduced 
Bill C-117, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (Group Defamatory Libel), 
which was read the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next 
sitting of the House. 

The House resolved itself again into Committee of Ways and Means; 

And the House continuing in Committee; 

At 6.00 o'clock p.m., Mr. Deputy Speaker took the Chair. 

\ Private Members' Business was called pursuant to 
provisional Standing Order 15(3)] 

(Private Bills) 

The Order being read for the second reading of Bill S-9, An Act to incor- 
porate Principal Life Insurance Company of Canada. 



250 HOUSE OF COMMONS June 15, 1965 

Mr. Lambert, seconded by Mr. Starr, moved, — That the said bill be now- 
read a second time. 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 

Accordingly, the said bill was read the second time and referred to the 
Standing Committee on Finance, Trade and Economic Affairs. 

The House resumed debate on the proposed motion of Mrs. Konantz, sec- 
onded by Mr. Ryan, — That Bill C-99, An Act to incorporate Bank of Western 
Canada, be now read a second time. 

And on the proposed motion of Mr. Laprise seconded by Mr. Perron, in 
amendment thereto, — That the said bill be not now read a second time, but that 
it be read a second time this day six months hence. 

And debate continuing; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 

The Committee of Ways and Means resumed and progress having been made 
and reported the Committee obtained leave to sit again at the next sitting of 
the House. 

(Proceedings on Adjournment Motion) 

At 10.03 o'clock p.m., the question "That this House do now adjourn" was 
deemed to have been proposed pursuant to provisional Standing Order 39-A; 

After debate thereon, the said question was deemed to have been adopted. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Lamontagne, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Return to 
an Address, dated May 19, 1965, to His Excellency the Governor General for 
a copy of all correspondence since May 23, 1964, exchanged between the 
Government of Saskatchewan and any Minister of the Government regarding 
the Federal-Provincial Vocational and Technical Agreement scheduled to 
expire on March 31, 1966. — (Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers 
No. 31). 

By Mr. Sharp, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Report of 
Northern Ontario Pipe Line Crown Corporation, including its Accounts and 
Financial Statement certified by the Auditor General, for the year ended 
December 31, 1964, pursuant to sections 85(3) and 87(3) of the Financial 
Administration Act, chapter 116, R.S.C., 1952. (English and French). 



At 10.25 o'clock p.m., Mr. Deputy Speaker adjourned the House until 
tomorrow at 2.30 o'clock p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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OTTAWA, WEDNESDAY, JUNE 16, 1965. 



2.30 o'clock p.m. 

The Clerk informed the House of the unavoidable absence of Mr. Speaker, 
whereupon Mr. Lamoureux (Stormont), Chairman of Committees, took the 
Chair as Deputy Speaker, pursuant to the Statute in that case made and pro- 
vided. 

Prayers. 

Mr. Martin (Essex East), a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, laid 
before the House, — Copy of an Address to Her Majesty the Queen from the 
Legislative Assembly of the Province of Quebec on the subject of the British 
North America Act, 1867, together with Addresses of transmittal to His Excel- 
lency the Governor General of Canada and His Honour the Lieutenant-Governor 
of the Province of Quebec, also copy of letters dated June 3rd and 4th, 1965 
exchanged between the Prime Minister of Canada and the Premier of the 
Province of Quebec relating to the above-mentioned subject. 



Pursuant to Standing Order 39(4) the following seven Questions were 
made Orders of the House for Returns, namely: 

No. 35 — Mr. Matheson 

1. During each of the last ten years of record (a) how many criminal 
offences were reported (b) what percentage of these crimes remained unsolved 
(c) how many persons per 100,000 population were convicted of indictable 
offences? 

2. During the last five years of record, what was the percentage of increase 
in (a) Canada's population (b) the population of federal penitentiaries? 

3. What percentage of inmates now in federal penitentiaries have been 
there before? 

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252 HOUSE OF COMMONS June 16, 1965 



4. What policy and/or programs are presently in effect to reduce crime 
and recidivism. 

No. 40 — Mr. Matheson 

1. What incidents of bungled hangings appear in the records of Canadian 
executions? 

2. On what occasions, and in what circumstances has the hanging opera- 
tion had to be repeated? 

3. On what occasions, and in what circumstances has the condemned person 
been dispatched after the drop by pressure applied to the body? 

No. 138 — Mr. Rondeau 

1. What is the total number of federal civil servants throughout Canada? 

2. What is the total number in each department? 

3. How many federal civil servants were employed throughout Canada since 
April 1963, in each department? 

4. What is the total number of employees for each Crown corporation? 

5. How many employees in Crown corporations and departments are bilin- 
gual and how many are unilingual? 

No. 569 — Mr Caouette 

1. What has been the number of employees, year by year in the following 
Crown corporations since their establishment (a) Canadian National Railways 
(b) Air Canada (c) Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (d) Canadian Overseas 
Telecommunication Corp. (e) Central Mortgage and Housing Corp. (/) Eldorado 
Aviation Limited (g) Eldorado Mining and Refining Limited (h) Northern 
Transportation Co. Limited (i) Polymer Corporation Limited (j) The Seaway 
International Bridge Co. Limited (k) Atomic Energy of Canada Limited (I) 
Canadian Arsenals Ltd. (m) Canadian Patents and Developments Limited (n) 
Defence Construction Ltd.? 

2. Are employees of these government enterprises of an industrial or 
commercial nature, subject to the Civil Service Act? 

3. Do these employees enjoy a special status? 

No. 583 — Mr. MacLean (Queens) 
From March 1, 1964 to May 1, 1965, how many motor vehicles have been 
purchased by the Department of Justice (a) manufactured or assembled in 
Nova Scotia (b) manufactured or assembled in Ontario (c) imported from the 
United States (d) imported from other countries? 

Mr. Stewart, Parliamentary Secretary to the Secretary of State, presented, — 
Return to the foregoing Order. 

No. 664 — Mr. Hamilton 

1. What are the names, classifications, titles and salaries of all personnel 
hired by the Centennial Commission since April 22, 1963? 

2. What are the names, classifications, titles and salaries of all personnel 
hired by contract by and for the Centennial Commission since April 22, 1963? 

3. What are the names, classifications, titles and salaries of all personnel 
hired for the Centennial Commission by the Civil Service Commission since 
April 22, 1963? 



June 16, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 253 

4. What are the names, classifications, titles and salaries of all personnel 
hired by the Centennial Commission since April 22, 1963 which were appointed 
by Governor in Council? 

5. What are the names, classifications, titles and salaries of all personnel 
hired by the Centennial Commission since April 22, 1963 upon the submission 
of a recommendation of the Secretary of State? 

6. What are the names, classifications, titles and salaries of all the Centen- 
nial Commission personnel appointed since April 22, 1963 which were recom- 
mended to the Secretary of State for employment by the Centennial 
Commissioner prior to approval by Governor in Council or Treasury Board? 

7. What are the names, classifications, titles and salaries of all personnel 
hired by the Centennial Commission since April 22, 1963 by approval of the 
Treasury Board following submission of a recommendation by the Secretary 
of State? 

8. What are the names, classifications, titles and salaries of all personnel 
released, transferred or seconded from the Centennial Commission since April 
22, 1963 by means of submission to Governor in Council, Treasury Board Min- 
utes, Ministerial Order or Civil Service approval? 

No. 734 — Mr. Tucker 

1. How many Canadians served in the Canadian Armed Forces in (a) World 
War I (b) World War II? 

2. How many in Question (1) were born in (a) Canada (b) United King- 
dom (c) other British possessions (d) elsewhere? 

3. How many in Question (1) were of (a) Anglo Saxon origin (b) French 
origin (c) other Ethnic origins? 

4. What was the total enlistment in each province? 

5. What was the classification by main religious denomination in (a) World 
War I (b) World War II? 



Notices of Motions for the Production of Papers Nos. 39 and 41 were 
allowed to stand at the request of the government. 



Pursuant to provisional order adopted on April 20, 1964, it was ordered, — 
That there be laid before this House a copy of all correspondence since 
January 1, 1960, exchanged between the federal government and the automo- 
bile industry relating to minimum safety standards in the manufacture of auto- 
mobiles and components thereof. — {Notice of Motion for the Production of 
Papers No. 44 — Mr. Grafjtey). 



The House resolved itself again into Committee of Ways and Means and 
further progress having been made and reported the Committee obtained leave 
to sit again at the next sitting of the House. 

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254 HOUSE OF COMMONS June 16, 1965 

lAt 5.00 o'clock p.m., Private Members' Business was called pursuant 
to provisional Standing Order 15(3)] 

(Notices of Motions) 

Mr. Prittie, seconded by Mr. Cameron (Nanaimo-Cowichan-The Islands), 
moved, — That, in the opinion of this House, the federal government should give 
consideration to the advisabihty of constructing a bridge or tunnel across the 
North-arm of the Fraser River between the City of Vancouver and Sea Island 
in the municipality of Richmond for the purpose of assuring uninterrupted 
access to the Vancouver International Airport. — {Notice of Motion No. 11). 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following paper having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
was laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Lamontagne, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Supple- 
mentary Return to an Order of the House, dated May 19, 1965, {Question No. 
41) showing: commencing with the year 1946, and concluding with the year 
1964, what was (a) the number of executions, if any (b) the number of convic- 
tions for murder (c) the percentage that (a) bears to (b), and (d) the 
homicide mortality rate per million population? 



At six o'clock p.m., Mr. Deputy Speaker adjourned the House without 
question put until tomorrow at 2.30 o'clock p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 
2(1). 



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2.30 o'clock p.m. 

The Clerk informed the House of the unavoidable absence of Mr. Speaker, 
whereupon Mr. Lamoureux (Stormont), Chairm.an of Committees, took the 
Chair as Deputy Speaker, pursuant to the Statute in that case made and pro- 
vided. 

Prayers. 

Mr. Matheson, seconded by Mr. Granger, moved, — That the First Report 
of the Standing Committee on External Affairs presented to the House on 
Tuesday, June 15, 1965, be now concurred in. 

After debate thereon; the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 

Accordingly, the said Report was concurred in. 



The following Notice of Motion having been called was transferred to 
Government Orders for consideration at the next sitting of the House pursuant 
to Standing Order 21(2): 

That a joint committee of the Senate and House of Commons be appointed 
to enquire into and report upon the problems of consumer credit, more particu- 
larly but not so as to restrict the generality of the foregoing to enquire into 
and report upon the operation of Canadian legislation in relation thereto; 

That twenty-four m.embers of the House of Commons to be designated by 
the House at a later date, be members of the joint committee, and that stand- 
ing order 67(1) of the House of Commons be suspended in relation thereto; 

That the said committee have power to call for persons, papers and records 
and examine witnesses; to sit while the House is sitting, and to report from 



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time to time and to print such papers and evidence from day to day as may be 
deemed advisable, and that standing order 66 be suspended in relation thereto; 
and to engage the services of counsel, accountants and such other clerical and 
technical personnel as may be deemed necessary, that the Minutes of Proceed- 
ings of and evidence given before the joint committee at the past session be 
referred to the said committee and be made part of the records thereof and 
that a m.essage be sent to the Senate requesting that House to unite with this 
House for the above purpose, and to select, if the Senate deems it advisable, 
som.e of its members to act on the proposed joint committee. — The Solicitor 
General. 



By unanimous consent, Mr. Sauve, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, 
laid before the House, — Notes of Speech delivered by the Minister of Forestry 
to the Association Professionnelle des Meuniers du Quebec at Drummondville, 
Quebec, June 11, 1965. 



The House resolved itself again into Committee of Ways and Means; 

And the House continuing in Committee; 

At 6.00 o'clock p.m., Mr. Deputy Speaker took the Chair. 



By unanimous consent, the House reverted to "Presenting Reports by 
Standing and Special Committees". 



Mr. Walker, from the Special Committee appointed to prepare and report 
lists of Members to compose the Standing Committees of the House under 
Standing Order 65, presented the Second Report of the said Comjnittee, which 
is as follows: 

Your Committee, in accordance with provisional Order 65, recommends that 
the Standing Committees of this House be composed of the following Members: 

No. 1 

Broadcasting, Films and Assistance to the Arts 



Berger, 

Cowan, 

Dinsdale, 

Drouin, 

Fisher, 

Gelber, 

Gregoire, 

Groos, 



Messrs. 

Horner (Acadia), 

Jewett (Miss), 

Mackasey, 

Marcoux, 

Mather, 

McCutcheon, 

Morison, 

Nesbitt. 



Otto, 

Prud'homme, 

Pugh, 

Simpson, 

Stewart, 

Tardif, 

Thomas, 

Valade— 24. 



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No. 2 






Crown 

] 


Corporations 






Vlessrs. 




Addison, 


Douglas, 




McCutcheon, 


Asselin (Notre-Dame- 


Eudes, 




McLean (Charlotte), 


de-Grace), 


Gundlock, 




Muir (Lisgar), 


Beaule, 


Hales, 




Otto, 


Cameron (High Park), 


Kindt, 




Pigeon, 


Cameron (Nanaimo- 


Lloyd, 




Rheaume, 


Cowichan-The Islands) 


, Loiselle, 




Rouleau, 


Cote (Longueuil), 


Maclnnis, 




Stewart— 24. 


Cote (Chicoutimi), 


Matheson, 







No. 3 

Finance, Trade and Economic Affairs 





Messrs. 




Basford, 


Francis, 


McLean (Charlotte), 


Bell, 


Gelber, 


Monteith, 


Cameron (Nanaimo- 


Grafftey, 


Moreau, 


Cowichan-The Islands, 


Gregoire, 


Pennel, 


Chretien, 


Irvine, 


Pilon, 


Douglas, 


Kindt, 


Thomas, 


Flemming (Victoria- 


Lambert, 


Thompson, 


Carleton), 


Lloyd, 


Whelan — 24. 


Forest, 


Macdonald, 







No. 4 

Fisheries 






Messrs. 




Armstrong, 


Chatterton, 




Loney, 


Barnett, 


Crouse, 




MacLean (Queens), 


Basford, 


Cyr, 




McLean (Charlotte) 


Bechard, 


Danforth, 




O'Keefe, 


Blouin, 


Dionne, 




Patterson, 


Cadieu (Meadow Lake), 


Dube, 




Stefanson, 


Carter, 


Granger, 




Tucker, 


Cashin, 


Howard, 




Willoughby— 24. 



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No. 5 
Health and Welfare 



Brown, 

Cameron (High Park), 
Cardiff, 

Cote (Longueuil), 
Cowan, 
Enns, 

Flemming ( Victoria- 
Car leton), 
Francis, 



Messrs. 



Harley, 

Howe (Hamilton South), 
Howe (Wellington- 
Huron), 
Jones (Mrs.), 
Knowles, 
Laverdiere, 
Marcoux, 
Munro, 



O'Keefe, 

Perron, 

Regan, 

Rideout (Mrs.), 

Rochon, 

Rynard, 

Wadds (Mrs.), 

Willoughby— 24. 



Aiken, 

Badanai, 

Basford, 

Boulanger, 

Cashin, 

Chatterton, 

Frenette, 

Gendron, 



No. 6 
Housing, Urban Development and Public Works 



Messrs. 



Grafftey, 

Kelly, 

Lloyd, 

Loiselle, 

Macaluso, 

Martin (Tirmnins), 

McBain, 

McWilliams, 



More (Regina City), 

Nielsen, 

Pascoe, 

Prittie, 

Rinfret, 

Rondeau, 

Ryan, 

Vincent — 24. 



No. 7 
Indian Affairs, Human Rights and Citizenship and Immigration 



Asselin (Richmond- 
Wolfe), 
Badanai, 
Baldwin, 
Boutin, 
Brewin, 
Grossman, 
Danforth, 
Fane, 



Messrs. 



Gray, 

Klein, 

Konantz (Mrs.), 

Korchinski, 

Lachance, 

Macaluso, 

Macquarrie, 

Moore (Wetaskiwin), 

Nielsen, 



Orlikow, 

Prud'homme, 

Rheaume, 

Roxburgh, 

Thompson, 

Wahn, 

Watson (Chateauguay- 

Huntingdon-Laprairie) 

—24. 



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No. 8 

Industry, Research and Energy Development 





Messrs. 




Addison, 


Granger, 


More (Regina City) 


Alkenbrack, 


Hahn, 


Moreau, 


Asselin (Notre-Dame- 


Hales, 


Mullally, 


de-Grace), 


Irvine, 


Noble, 


Choquette, 


Laniel, 


Peters, 


Chretien, 


Latulippe, 


Ricard, 


Crouse, 


Leboe, 


Saltsman, 


Davis, 


McNulty, 


Stenson — 24. 


Forest, 









No. 9 








Justice and Legal 


Affairs 






Messrs. 




Belanger, 


Drouin, 




Nielsen, 


Bell, 


Fairweather, 




Nugent, 


Bigg, 


Girouard, 




Otto, 


Cashin, 


Greene, 




Paul, 


Chapdelaine, 


Guay, 




Ryan, 


Choquette, 


Honey, 




Scott, 


Chretien, 


Howard, 




Temple, 


Coates, 


Macdonald, 




Woolliams — 24, 



Barnett, 

Basford, 

Byrne, 

Cashin, 

Cote (Longueuil), 

Dionne, 

lEmard, 

Foy, 

22622—18 



No. 10 

Labour and Employment 



Messrs. 



Godin, Millar, 

Gray, Muir (Lisgar), 

Jones (Mrs.), Regan, 

Knowles, Ricard, 
Lessard (Lac-Saint- Jean), Rideout (Mrs.) 

Mackasey, Starr, 

Maclnnis, Valade, 

McBain, Wahn— 24. 



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No. 11 
Miscellaneous Estimates 



Messrs. 



Asselin (Richmond- 
Wolfe), 
Bamett, 

Cadieu (Meadow Lake), 
Cote (Chicoutimi), 
Emard, 
Eudes, 
Forbes, 
Foy, 



Girouard, 

Habel, 

Harley, 

Jorgenson, 

Korchinski, 

Leblanc, 

Leduc, 

Muir (Lisgar), 

Peters, 



Pilon, 

Richard, 

Rochon, 

Rondeau, 

Skoreyko, 

Smallwood, 

Watson (Chateauguay- 
Huntingdon- 
Laprairie) — 24. 



No. 12 
Miscellaneous Private Bills 



Addison, 

Alkenbrack, 

Deachman, 

Ethier, 

Frenette, 

Gelber, 

Horner (Acadia), 

Kennedy, 



Messrs. 



Kindt, 

Lambert, 

Laverdiere, 

Loiselle, 

Mather, 

Matte, 

MitcheU, 

Mullally, 



Nixon, 
Paul, 
Perron, 
Pugh, 
Smallwood, 
Wadds (Mrs.), 
Webster, 
Whelan — 24. 



No. 13 
National Defence 



Bechard, 

Brewin, 

Churchill, 

Deachman, 

Dube, 

Fane, 

Groos, 

Hahn, 



Messrs. 



Harkness, 

Lambert, 

Langlois, 

Laniel, 

Lessard (Saint-Henri) 



Martineau, 

Matheson, 

McMillan, 

McNulty, 

Rock, 



Lessard (Lac-Saint-Jean), Smith, 
MacLean (Queens), Temple, 

MacRae, Winch — 24. 



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No. 14 
Northern Affairs and National Resources 





Messrs. 




Alkenbrack, 


Godin, 


MadiU, 


Berger, 


Granger, 


Mitchell, 


Blouin, 


Groos, 


Moreau, 


Cadieu (Meadow Lake), 


Herridge, 


Nielsen, 


Cantelon, 


Howard, 


Rheaume, 


Grossman, 


Laprise, 


Ryan, 


Cyr, 


Leboe, 


Turner, 


Dinsdale, 


Legault, 


WooUiams- 



-24. 



Armstrong, 

Blouin, 

Coates, 

Doucett, 

Francis, 

Grafftey, 

Greene, 

Habel, 



No. 15 
Privileges and Elections 



Messrs. 



Harkness, Martin (Timmins), 

Horner (The Battlefords), O'Keefe, 

Howard, Paul, 

Latulippe, Pigeon, 

Lessard (Saint-Henri), Prud'homme, 

Leboe, Richard, 

MacEwan, Rochon, 

Macquarrie, Tardif — 24. 



No. 16 
Public Accounts 



Baldwin, 

Cameron (High Park), 

Caron, 

Cote (Chicoutimi), 

Crouse, 

Fleming (Okanagan- 

Revielstoke), 
Forgie, 
Gendron, 

22622— 18i 



Messrs. 



Hales, 

Hamilton, 

Leblanc, 

Legault, 

Lloyd, 

McMillan, 

Mitchell, 

Nasserden, 



Noble, 

O'Keefe, 

Pilon, 

Rinfret, 

Saltsman, 

Southam, 

Tardif, 

Winch— 24. 



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No. 17 






Standing Orders 






Messrs. 




Asselin (Notre-Dame- 


Guay, 


Maclnnis, 


de-Grace), 


Hahn, 


Nielsen, 


Balcer, 


Horner (Acadia), 


Ouellet, 


Boulanger, 


Horner (Jasper-Edson), 


Simpson, 


Chapdelaine, 


Howard, 


Skoreyko, 


Cyr, 


Jewett (Miss), 


Wahn, 


Forest, 


Kelly, 


Webb, 


Gauthier, 


Leblanc, 


Winch— 24. 


Gray, 







No. 18 
Transport and Communications 



Balcer, 
Boulanger, 
Cantelon, 
Cantin, 
Cowan, 
Deachman, 
Fisher, 

Flemming (Victoria- 
Carleton), 



Messrs. 



Foy, 
Guay, 

Horner (Acadia), 
Howe (Wellington- 
Huron), 
Kennedy, 
Macaluso, 
Macdonald, 
Millar, 



Nasserden, 
Olson, 
Pascoe, 
Prittie, 
Richard, 
Rideout (Mrs.), 
Rock, 
Tucker— 24. 





No. 


19 






Veterans Affairs 






Messrs. 




Bigg, 


Herridge, 




Mcintosh, 


Carter, 


Kelly, 




Morison, 


Chatterton, 


Kennedy, 




Ormiston, 


ifemard. 


Laniel, 




Patterson, 


Fleming (Okanagan- 


Legault, 




Peters, 


Revelstoke), 


MacRae, 




Plourde, 


Forgie, 


Madill, 




Rock, 


Granger, 


Matheson, 




Temple — 24. 


Groos, 









June 17, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 263 

By unanimous consent, on motion of Mr. Walker, seconded by Mr. Rin- 
fret, the said Report was concurred in. 

By unanimous consent, the House reverted to "Motions". 



On motion of Mr. MacNaught, seconded by Mr. Gordon, it v/as ordered, — 
That, saving always the powers of the Committee of Supply in relation to the 
voting of public monies, the items listed in the Main Estimates for 1965-66, 
relating to the Departments of Defence Production, Fisheries, Industry, Jus- 
tice, Labour, National Defence, Trade and Commerce and Veterans Affairs be 
withdrawn from the Committee of Supply and referred to the Standing Com- 
mittees of this House, as follows: Defence Production to the Standing Com- 
mittee on National Defence: Fisheries to the Standing Committee on Fisheries; 
Industry to the Standing Committee en Industry, Research and Energy De- 
velopment; Justice to the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs; 
Labour to the Standing Committee on Labour and Employment; National De- 
fence to the Standing Committee on National Defence; Trade and Commerce to 
the Standing Committee on Finance, Trade and Economic Affairs; and Veter- 
ans Affairs to the Standing Committee on Veterans Affairs. 



[Private Members' Business was called pursuant to 
provisional Standing Order 15(3)1 

[Notices of Motions (Papers)^ 

Items numbered 5 and 6 having been called, were allowed to stand 
at the request of the government. 



Mr. Coates, seconded by Mr. Churchill, moved, — That an Order of the 
House do issue for a copy of the report prepared by the Commissioner of the 
R.C.M. Police which resulted in the forced retirement of Chief Superintendent 
Belec and Sub-Inspector Poitras. (Notice of Motion for the Production oj 
Papers No. 3). 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



The Committee of Ways and Means resumed. 

(In the Committee) 
The following resolutions were adopted: 

INCOME TAX 

Resolved, — That it is expedient to introduce a measure to amend the Income 
Tax Act and related provisions of the Federal-Provincial Fiscal Arrangements 
Act and to provide among other things: 

1. That for the 1966 and subsequent taxation years the incom.e tax payable 
by an individual be reduced by an amount equal to the lesser of 10 per cent 



264 HOUSE OF COMMONS June 17, 1965 

of basic tax or $600 and for the 1965 taxation year by an amount equal to 
the lesser of 5 per cent of basic tax or $300. 

2. That for the 1965 and subsequent taxation years a taxpayer may deduct 
in computing his taxable income an amount for the support of a person who 
was his niece or nephew and who during the year resided in Canada, was 
wholly dependent upon him for support, and was 

(a) under 21 years of age, 

(b) 21 years of age or over and dependent by reason of mental or 
physical infirmity, or 

(c) 21 years of age or over and in full-time attendance at a school or 
university, 

if 

(d) the mother of the niece or nephew was divorced or separated and 
not in receipt of alimony or similar payments, or 

(e) the father of the niece or nephew was deceased or mentally or 
physically infirm, 

not exceeding $300 if the person was a child qualified for family allowance 
and $550 if he was not so qualified. 

3. That for the 1965 and subsequent taxation years a taxpayer may deduct 
in computing his taxable income an amount not exceeding $550 expended by 
him during the year for the support of a person who was his aunt or uncle 
and who during the year resided in Canada and was dependent upon him for 
support by reason of mental or physical infirmity. 

4. That for the 1970 and subsequent taxation years the additional exemp- 
tion of $500 now allowed to a taxpayer v.^ho has attained the age of 65 years 
be allowed only if the taxpayer has attained the age of 70 years and that for 
the taxation years 1966 to 1969 inclusive a taxpayer who has attained the age 
of 65 years but has not attained the age of 70 years be allowed the additional 
exemption of $500 only if he did not receive a pension under the Old Age 
Security Act in respect of any month in that year. 

5. That for the 1965 and subsequent taxation years a taxpayer who deducts 
in computing his income from an office or employment 

(a) annual dues to maintain membership in a trade union or to main- 
tain membership in an association of public servants, 

(b) annual dues retained from his remuneration pursuant to the provi- 
sions of a collective agreement and paid to a trade union or associa- 
tion, or 

(c) annual professional membership dues the payment of which was 
necessary to maintain a professional status recognized by statute, 

shall not by reason of such deduction be ineligible to deduct the standard 
deduction of $100 described in paragraph (ca) of subsection (1) of section 27 
of the Act. 

6. That for the 1966 and subsequent taxation years a person, the spouse 
of such person residing with him and previously resident in Canada, or any 
dependent child of such person, shall be deemed to have been resident in 
Canada throughout a taxation year if such person was at any time in the 
year performing services in a country other than Canada under a prescribed 
international development assistance program of the Government of Canada, 
and was resident in Canada during a part of the year preceding the commence- 
ment of such services. 



June 17, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 265 

7. That for the 1966 and subsequent taxation years a contribution made 
by a person under the Canada Pension Plan or under a provincial pension 
plan as defined in section 3 of the Canada Pension Plan may be deducted in 
computing the income of such person. 

8. That for the 1965 and subsequent taxation years the limitation on 
the amount related to earned income that a taxpayer may deduct as a premium 
under a registered retirement savings plan be increased from 10 per cent 
of earned income to 20 per cent of earned income. 

9. That for the 1965 and subsequent taxation years such part of any 
amount that would otherwise be included in computing income of a taxpayer 
as a retiring allowance be deductible if it is paid in the year, or within 60 
days after the end of the year, as a contribution to a registered pension fund 
or plan, as a premium under a retirement savings plan, or to a trustee under 
a deferred profit sharing plan. 

10. That there may be deducted in computing the income of a taxpayer 
an amount in respect of an outlay or expense made by the taxpayer in the 
1965 and subsequent taxation years 

(a) to a person with whom the taxpayer is dealing at arms length and 
who is the lessee of property owned by the taxpayer, to obtain 
the cancellation of a lease on such property, 

(b) for landscaping property used by the taxpayer for the purpose 
of gaining or producing income, 

(c) for clearing land or laying tile drainage for the purpose of carrying 
on a farming business, 

(d) as or on account of the cost of making representations to a gov- 
ernment, municipality or other public authority in connection with 
a business carried on by the taxpayer, including representations 
for the purpose of obtaining a licence, permit, franchise or trademark, 

(e) as or on account of the cost incurred in investigating the suitability 
of a site for a building or other structure planned by the taxpayer 
for use in connection with a business carried on by him. 

11. That for the 1965 and subsequent taxation years a corporation shall 
be deemed to be resident in Canada throughout a taxation year if 

(a) it was incorporated in Canada before April 27, 1965 and was 
resident in Canada in its taxation year that included April 26, 1965 
or in any subsequent taxation year, or 

(b) it was incorporated in Canada after April 26, 1965. 

12. That with respect to payments received by a taxpayer after April 26, 
1965, other than a payment made upon the death of an employee, the amount 
that a taxpayer may elect to have taxed under section 36 of the Act shall 
not exceed 

(a) in the case of a single payment 

(i) out of or pursuant to a superannuation or pension fund or plan or 
(ii) pursuant to deferred profit sharing plan, or 



266 HOUSE OF COMMONS June 17, 1965 

(iii) pursuant to an employee's profit sharing plan, 
$1,500 times the number of years during which the employee, in 
respect of whom the payment was made, was a member of the 
plan, or 

(b) in the case of 

(i) a single paym.ent upon retirement of an employee in recogni- 
tion of long service, or 
(ii) a payment or payments made by an employer to an employee 
or former employee upon or after retirement in respect of loss 
of office or employment 
$1,000 times the number of years during which the employee, in 
respect of whom the payment was made, was an employee of the 
employer who made the payment. 

13. That for taxation years comm.encing after April 26, 1965, a trust or 
estate (otlier than a trust or estate arising on death) that has income from 
a business carried on by it in Canada may not deduct in computing its income 
an amount paid or payable to a beneficiary who is 

(a) a non-resident of Canada, 

(b) a non-resident-owned investment corporation, or 

(c) another trust or estate resident in Canada, unless that other trust 
or estate 

(i) arose on a death, or 

(ii) has been since April 26, 1965 a beneficiary of the trust or 
estate paying the amount and the trust or estate paying the 
amount has been carrying on the business since April 26, 1965, 

and any amount paid or payable out of the income for the year of the first- 
mentioned trust or estate will continue to be included in the income of its 
beneficiary notvv^ithstanding the fact that the first-mentioned trust or estate 
was not entitled to deduct the amount in computing its income. 

14. That for the 1965 and subsequent taxation years the amount of income 
derived from a new mine that a corporation may exclude in computing its 
income shall be confined to income from the operation of the mine by the 
corporation. 

15. That where a joint exploration corporation acquires after April 26, 
1965 a right, licence or privilege to explore for, drill for or take petroleum, 
natural gas or other related hydrocarbons, the cost of the right, licence or 
privilege may not be renounced to a shareholder corporation. 

16. That for the 1965 and subsequent taxation years an amount that a 
taxpayer may exclude from his income because it is consideration for a 
mining property acquired as the result of his efforts as a prospector, or as 
the result of efforts of a prospector who v/as employed or financially assisted 
by him, shall not include a share of profits, a royalty or a payment based on 
production. 

17. That the Minister of National Revenue with the approval of the 
Governor in Council may on behalf of the Government of Canada enter into 
an agreement with the government of a province, under which one govern- 
ment undertakes to transfer to the other, in respect of income tax paid by an 
individual from whom deductions were made at source as though he were 



June 17, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 267 

resident in a place other than the province in which he was resident on the 
last day of the year, a part of the amount deducted or withheld under section 
47 of the Act or a similar provision of a provincial income tax act. 

18. That in order to give effect to the provisions of paragraph 1 without 
reducing the amount of equalization payments to any province a consequential 
amendment be made to the Federal-Provincial Fiscal Arrangements Act to 
adjust the fractions set out therein in the definition of "standard individual 
income tax" used in the computation of equalization payments. 

19. That a new section be added to the Act concerning expenditures of 
a taxpayer for advertising space in a non-Canadian newspaper or periodical 
having effect substantially as follows: 

"12A. (1) In computing income, no deduction shall be made in respect of 
an otherwise deductible outlay or expense of a taxpayer for advertising space 
in an issue of a non-Canadian newspaper or periodical dated after December 
31, 1965 for an advertisement directed primarily to a market in Canada. 

(2) An issue or edition of an issue of any newspaper or periodical that is 
edited in whole or in part in Canada and printed and published in Canada and 
that was not on April 26, 1965 a Canadian nev.^spaper or periodical shall be 
deemed, for the purposes of subsection (1), not to be an issue of a non-Canadian 
nev/spaper or periodical if 

(a) through the period of twelve months ending April 26, 1965 issues or 
editions of issues of that publication were being edited in whole or in 
part in Canada and printed and published in Canada at the usual 
intervals for issues of that publication and have since that date con- 
tinued to be so edited, printed and published without interruption 
except for a reason other than the cessation of the business of pub- 
lishing that publication; and 

(b) in the case of a periodical, the periodical is similar, in content and 
in respect of the class of readers to whom it is directed, to the issues 
or editions of that periodical that were throughout the period of 
twelve months ending April 26, 1965 being edited in whole or in 
part in Canada and printed and published in Canada. 

(3) Subsection (1) does not apply with respect to an advertisement in a 
special issue or edition of a newspaper that is edited in whole or in part and 
printed and published outside Canada if such special issue or edition is devoted 
to features or news related primarily to Canada and the publishers thereof 
publish such an issue or edition not more frequently than twice a year. 

(4) Subsection (1) does not apply v/ith respect to an advertisement in 

(a) a catalogue, or 

(b) any publication the principal function of which is the encourage- 
ment, promotion or development of the fine arts, letters, scholarship 
or religion. 

(5) In this section, 

(a) 'Canadian issue' means, 

(i) in relation to a newspaper, an issue, including a special issue, 

(A) the type of which, other than the type for advertisements or 
features, is set in Canada, 

(B) the whole of which, exclusive of any comics supplement, 
is printed in Canada, 



268 HOUSE OF COMMONS June 17, 1965 

(C) that is edited in Canada by individuals resident in Canada, 
and 

(D) that is published in Canada, and 

(ii) in relation to a periodical, an issue, including a special issue, 

(A) the type of which, other than the type for advertisements, 
is set in Canada, 

(B) that is printed in Canada, 

(C) that is edited in Canada by individuals resident in Canada, 
and 

(D) that is published in Canada, 

but does not include an issue of a periodical 

(E) that is produced or published under a license granted by a 
person who produces or publishes issues of a periodical 
that are printed, edited or published outside Canada, or 

(F) the contents of which, excluding advertisements, are sub- 
stantially the same as the contents of an issue of a periodi- 
cal, or the contents of one or more issues of one or more 
periodicals, that was or were printed, edited or published 
outside Canada; 

(b) 'Canadian newspaper or periodical' means a newspaper or periodi- 
cal the right to produce and publish issues of which belongs to or 
is vested in 

(i) a Canadian citizen, 
(ii) a partnership of which at least f of the members are Canadian 

citizens and in which interests representing in value at least 

I of the total value of the partnership property are owned by 

Canadian citizens, 
(iii) an association or society of which at least f of the members are 

Canadian citizens, 
(iv) Her Majesty in right of Canada or a province, or a municipality 

in Canada, or 
(v) a corporation 

(A) that is incorporated under the laws of Canada or a province, 

(B) of which the chairman or other presiding officer and at 
least f of the directors or other similar officers are Canadian 
citizens, and 

(C) of which, if it is a corporation having share capital, at least 
f of the shares having full voting rights under all circum- 
stances, and shares representing in the aggregate at least 
f of the paid-up capital, are owned by Canadian citizens 
or by corporations other than corporations controlled 
directly or indirectly by citizens or subjects of a country 
other than Canada; and 

(c) 'issue of a non-Canadian newspaper or periodical' means an issue 
that is not a Canadian issue of a Canadian newspaper or periodical." 

CUSTOMS ACT 

Resolved, — That it is expedient to amend the Customs Act by: 

1. Striking out subsection (1) of section 22 and substituting the following: 

22. (1) Unless the goods are to be warehoused in the manner by this 
Act provided, the importer shall, at the time of entry, 



June 17, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 269 

(a) pay or cause to be so paid, all duties upon all goods entered 
inwards; or 

(b) in the case of goods entered in accordance with the terms and 
conditions prescribed by regulations made under subsection (3), 
present in respect of the duties upon such goods a bond, note 
or other document as prescribed by such regulations; 

and the collector or other proper officer shall, immediately there- 
upon, grant his warrant for the unlading of such goods, and grant 
a permit for the conveyance of such goods further into Canada, if 
so required by the importer. 

2. Adding to section 22 the following subsection: 

22. (3) The Governor in Council may make regulations prescribing 

(a) the terms and conditions upon which goods may be entered 
into Canada free of any requirement that the importer shall, 
at the time of entry, pay or cause to be so paid all duties on 
the goods so entered inwards; and 

(b) the terms and conditions of any bond, note or other document 
presented upon the entry of such goods in respect of the duties 
thereon. 

3. Striking out subsection (1) of section 35 and substituting the following: 

35. (1) The value for duty of goods imported shall be determined in 
accordance with the provisions of sections 36 to 41A. 

4. Striking out all that portion of subsection (2) of section 35 preceding 
paragraph (a) and substituting the following: 

35. (2) In this section and sections 36 to 41 A, with reference to any 
goods, 

5. Adding immediately after section 37 the following section: 

37 A. Where the Governor in Council is satisfied, on a report from the 
Minister, that the application of subparagraph (i) of paragraph (e) 
of subsection (2) of section 26 or subsection (3) of section 36 is 
inequitable in that it results in discrimination against the importa- 
tion of goods of a class from any country, as compared with the 
importation of goods of that class from any other country, the 
Governor in Council may prescribe the manner in which the value 
for duty of goods of that class, as determined under section 36 or 37, 
shall be reduced; but the value for duty of any imported goods 
upon being reduced as provided in this section shall not be less 
than an amount equal to the cost of production of the goods plv^ 
such amount for gross profit as is deemed reaso7iable by the Governor 
in Coun-cil. 

6. Adding immediately after section 41 the following section: 

41 A. In the case of any imported goods that 

(a) were shipped indirectly to Canada from the country of origin 
through one or m.ore other countries: and 

(b) would, but for this section, be valued for duty under sections 
36 to 40B at less than the value for duty of such goods would 
be if the country of export were the country of origin; 



270 HOUSE OF COMMONS June 17, 1965 

the goods shall, notwithstanding subsection (1) of section 36, upon 
such terms and conditions as to shipment, documentation, warehous- 
ing, transshipment or the like as the Governor in Council may 
prescribe, be valued for duty as if they were imported direct from 
the country of origin at the time they were first shipped from that 
country. 

7. Striking out section 79 and substituting the following: 

79. Subject to subsection (1) of section 22, no person shall make, nor 
shall any officer accept, any bond, note or other document for 
the purpose of avoiding or deferring the actual payment of duties 
legally accruing on goods imported into Canada, or arrange for 
deferring payment of such duties in any way, unless such goods 
are entered for warehouse, and duly deposited therein according 
to the laws and regulations governing the warehousing of such 
goods. 

8. Adding to section 104 the following subsection: 

104. (la) Where goods, the property of the government of a country 
other than Canada, that were imported into Canada free of duty 
or at a rate lower than that to which they would otherwise be 
liable, are sold or otherwise disposed of on behalf of the govern- 
ment of such country in accordance with an agreement between 
the governments of such country and Canada, such goods shall be 
charged with duties payable at such rate as may be determined by 
the Minister. 

Resolutions to be reported. 



The said resolutions were reported and concurred in and the Committee 
of Ways and Means obtained leave to sit again at the next sitting of the House. 



Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Mcllraith, by leave of the House, presented 
Bill C-118, An Act to amend the Income Tax Act and the Federal-Provincial 
Fiscal Arrangements Act, which was read the first time and ordered for a 
second reading at the next sitting of the House. 



Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Mcllraith, by leave of the House, presented 
Bill C-119, An Act to amend the Customs Act, which was read the first time 
and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House. 



{Proceedings on Adjournment Motion) 

At 10.07 o'clock p.m., the question "That this House do now adjourn" was 
deemed to have been proposed pursuant to provisional Standing Order 39-A; 

After debate thereon, the said question was deemed to have been adopted. 



June 17, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 271 

Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Gordon, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Report of tem- 
porary loan made by the Minister of Finance out of the Consolidated Revenue 
Fund to the St. Lawrence Seaway Authority authorized by Order in Council 
P.C. 1965-773, dated April 29, 1965, pursuant to section 26(4), chapter 242, 
R.S.C., 1952. (English and French). 

By Mr. Lamontagne, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Return to 
an Order of the House, dated May 12, 1965, for a copy of all correspondence 
between the Canadian Metalmining Association and the Government of Canada 
and the United Steelworkers of America and the Government of Canada regard- 
ing proposals to permit immigration in Canada of miners and skilled tradesmen. 
— (Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers No. 25). 

By Mr. Lamontagne, — Return to an Order of the House, dated June 2, 1965, 
for a copy of Ordinance No. 4344 of the Air Transport Board, relating to the 
application filed by Okanagan Helicopters Ltd. — (Notice of Motion for the 
Production of Papers No. 26). 



At 10.33 o'clock p.m., Mr. Deputy Speaker adjourned the House until 
tomorrow at 11.00 o'clock a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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OTTAWA, FRIDAY, JUNE 18, 1965. 



11.00 o'clock a.m. 

The Clerk informed the House of the unavoidable absence of Mr. Speaker, 
whereupon Mr. Lamoureux (Stormont), Chairman of Committees, took the 
Chair as Deputy Speaker, pursuant to the Statute in that case made and pro- 
vided. 

Prayers. 

On motion of Mr. Walker, seconded by Mr. Roxburgh, it was ordered, — 
That the name of Mr. Churchill be substituted for that of Mr. Winkler on 
the Standing Committee on External Affairs. 



The House resolved itself again into Committee of Ways and Means. 

(In the Committee) 
The following resolution was adopted: 

CUSTOMS TARIFF 

Resolved, — 1. That the Customs Tarijf be amended by adding thereto, 
immediately after section 16 thereof, the following section: 

17. (1) The Governor in Council, by order, may from time to time amend 

(a) Schedules A to C, and 

(b) any lists of articles or goods the duties on which are removed or 
reduced pursuant to any Act or any order in council under the 
Customs Act or this Act, 



274 HOUSE OF COMMONS June 18, 1965 

hy renumhering the items set out in Schedules A to C or in any 
such list hut not so as to affect the status of any of those items with 
respect to the payment of duty. 

(2) On and after the coming into force of an order under sub- 
section (1) a reference hy its former numher in any Act or in any statutory 
or other instrument or document to any item renumhered hy that order 
shall, unless the context otherwise requires, he construed to he a reference 
to that item, as renumhered hy the order. 

(3) The Minister of National Revenue may, from time to time by 
publication in Part I of the Canada Gazette, give notice of any change 
required to he made, by virtue of an order under subsection (I), in any 
reference in any Act or in any statutory or other instrument or document 
to an item renumhered by the order where the reference thereto is by 
the former numher. 

2. That Schedule A to the Customs Tariff be amended by striking out tariff 
items 209e, 210i, 263e, 384, 440m(l), 440n(l), 445z, 541a(2) and 695(c), and 
the enumerations of goods and the rates of duty set opposite each of those 
items, and by inserting therein the following items, enumerations of goods and 
rates of duty: 

Most- 
British Favoured- 
Tariff Preferential Nation General 

Item Tariff Tariff Tariff 



209e Potassium chloride Free Free 25 p.c. 

(Applicable to December 31, 1966) 

210i Sodium hypochlorite in solution 15 p.c. 20 p.c. 30 p.c. 

(Applicable to December 31, 1966) 

263e Compounds of tetramethyl lead, in which tetramethyl 

lead is the preponderant constituent by weight 12| p.c. 121 p.c. 25 p.c. 

(Applicable to December 31, 1966) 

384 Skelp, plate, sheet or strip of iron or steel, hot- or cold- 
rolled, for use in the manufacture of pipes or tubes. . . Free 

S88 Foundry moulding snap flasks and jackets for use therewith. Free 

440m Aircraft, not including engines, under such regulations as 
the Minister may prescribe: 

(1) When of types or sizes not made in Canada Free 

on and after July 1, 1966 Free 

440n Aircraft engines, when imported for use in the equipment 
of aircraft: 

(1) When of types or sizes not made in Canada. . . . Free 

on and after July 1, 1966 Free 

J^Sz Parts for use in the manufacture or repair of electric dry 
shaving m,achines for use in removing hum,an hair or of 
rectifier converters used in conjunction therewith Free Free 10 p.c. 

541a Yarns and rovings, including threads, cords and twines, 
wholly or in part of vegetable fibres, n.o.p., not con- 
taining silk, wool or hair, man-made fibres or fila- 
ments nor glass fibres or filaments: 

(2) Linen yarns for weaving, knitting or braiding into 

fabrics Free Free 25 p.c. 



n p.c. 


15 p.c. 


Free 


35 p.c. 


Free 


271 p.c. 


15 p.c. 


271 p.c. 


Free 


27§ p.c. 


15 p.c. 


27i p.c. 



June 18, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 275 



Most- 
British Favoured- 
Tariff Preferential Nation General 

Item Tariff Tariff Tariff 



695c Original sculptures and statuary, including the first twelve 
replicas made from a sculptor's original work or model; 
all the foregoing the professional productions of sculptors 
only and valued at not less than seventy-five dollars each.. Free Free Free 

695e Hand-woven tapestries, suitable only for use as wall hang- 
ings, valued at not less than twenty dollars per square foot. Free Free Free 



3. That Schedule B of the Customs Tariff be amended by inserting therein 
the following item, enumeration of goods and rate of drawback of duty: 

Portion of Duty 
(not including Special 
Duty or Dumping 
Item Duty) Payable as 

No. Goods When Subject to Drawback Drawback 

1010 Knitted netting When used in the manufacture of shapes for women's or 

children's headgear 99 p.c. 



4. That Schedule C to the Customs Tariff be amended by striking out item 
1220 and the enumeration of goods set opposite that item, and by inserting 
therein the following item and enumeration of goods: 



1220 Offensive weapons, as defined in the Criminal Code: 
This item does not affect in any manner: 

(a) arms, implements or munitions of war, army, naval and air stores, and any articles 
deemed capable of being converted thereinto or made useful in the production thereof, 
imported under permit issued by the Minister of National Revenue pursuant to regu- 
lations made by the Governor in Council under section 279 of the Customs Act; 
(6) firearms imported by a person who holds a permit in Form 43 or Form 44, issued 
with respect thereto, under section 94 of the Criminal Code; 

(c) shotguns and rifles of the standard or auto-loading type imported for sporting use 
only; 

(d) antique articles eligible for entry under tariff item 693 ({) or tariff item 693 (Hi), 
and bona fide collectors' items, as determined by the Minister; 

(e) arms, military stores and munitions of war eligible for entry under tariff item 708 
or tariff item 7086; or 

(/) arms, military stores, munitions of war or offensive weapons exempted from the 
provisions of this item by a regulation of the Governor in Council in any particular 
case or class of cases. 



5. That Schedule C to the Customs Tariff be amended by inserting therein 
the following item and enumeration of goods: 



1221 (1) Issues of a periodical, one of the four immediately preceding issues of which, if such precedirg issue 
is dated after September 30, 1965, has, under regulations prescribed by the Governor in Council, 
been found to be an issue of a special edition, including a split run or a regiorMl edition, that contained 
an advertisement that was primarily directed to a market in Canada and that did not appear in identical 
form in all editions of that issue of that periodical that were distributed in the country of origin. 



276 HOUSE OF COMMONS June 18, 1965 

(2) Issues of a periodical, one of the four immediately preceding issues of which, if such preceding issue 
is dated after September SO, 1965, has, under regulations prescribed by the Governor in Council, 
been found to be an issue, more than 5 per cent of the advertising space in which consisted of space 
used for advertisem,ents that indicated specific sources of availability in Canada, or specific terms or 
conditions relating to the sale or provision in Canada, of any goods or services, except where the indicon 
tion of such sources of availability or such terms or conditions was prim,arily directed to persons 
outside Canada. 

For the purposes of this item, 

(a) 'Hssue'' includes a special annual issue, and 

{b) "periodical m,eans a periodical, the issues of which, other than special annual issues, 
are published at regular intervals of more than 6 days and less than 15 weeks and are 
distributed as issues of a distinct publication or as a supplement to m,ore than one news- 
paper, but does not include 
(i) a catalogue, 
(ii) a newspaper, or 

(iii) a periodical, the principal function of which is the encouragement, promotion or 
developm,ent of the fine arts, letters, scholarship or religion. 



6. That any enactment founded upon resolutions 2, 3 and 4 of the fore- 
going resolutions shall be deemed to have come into force on the 27th day 
of April, 1965, and to have applied to all goods mentioned in the said resolu- 
tions imported or taken out of warehouse for consumption on or after that day, 
and to have applied to goods previously imported for which no entry for con- 
sumption was made before that day. 

7. That any enactment founded upon resolution 5 of the foregoing resolu- 
tions shall come into force on the 1st day of January, 1966, and shall apply 
to all goods mentioned in the said resolution imported or taken out of ware- 
house for consumption on or after that day, and shall apply to goods previously 
imported for which no entry for consumption was made before that day. 



Resolution to be reported. 



The said resolution was reported and concurred in and the Committee of 
Ways and Means obtained leave to sit again at the next sitting of the House. 



Mr. MacNaught for Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Robichaud, by leave of 
the House, presented Bill C-120, An Act to amend the Customs Tariff, which 
was read the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting 
of the House. 



The House resumed debate on the proposed motion of Mr. Mcllraith for 
Mr. Favreau, seconded by Mr. MacNaught, — That a Joint Committee of the 
Senate and House of Commons be appointed to consider the state of peniten- 
tiaries under the control of the Government of Canada and the plans of the 
Government in relation thereto with powers to report from time to time its 
observations and opinions thereon; send for persons, papers and records; 
adjourn from place to place; sit during sittings of the House; and print from 
day to day such papers and evidence as may be ordered by the Committee, 
and that Standing Order 66 be suspended in relation thereto; 

That 15 Members of the House of Commons, to be designated at a later 
date, act on behalf of the House as Members of the said Committee; and 



June 18, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 277 

That a Message be sent to the Senate requesting that House to unite with 
this House for the above purpose, and to select, if the Senate deem advisable, 
some of their Members to act on the proposed joint Committee. 

After further debate, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 

The House resolved itself into Committee of the Whole to consider a 
certain proposed resolution to amend the Fisheries Improvement Loans Act. 

(In the Committee) 

The following resolution was adopted: 

Resolved, — That it is expedient to introduce a measure to amend the 
Fisheries Improvement Loans Act to increase the maximum loan amount to a 
fisherman from four thousand dollars to ten thousand dollars and to increase 
the maximum repayment period from eight years to ten years and also to 
extend the period during which guaranteed loans may be made for a period of 
five years from June 30, 1965, to June 30, 1970. 

Resolution to be reported. 



The said resolution was reported and concurred in. 

Mr. Robichaud for Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Sharp, by leave of the 
House, presented Bill C-121, An Act to amend the Fisheries Improvement 
Loans Act, which was read the first time. 

By unanimous consent, the said bill was read the second time, considered 
in Committee of the Whole, reported without amendment and ordered for a 
third reading at the next sitting of the House. 

The order being read for the second reading of Bill S-8, An Act to 
amend the Central Mortgage and Housing Corporation Act; 

Mr. Nicholson, seconded by Miss LaMarsh, moved, — That the said bill 
be now read a second time. 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 

Accordingly, the said bill was read the second time, considered in Com- 
mittee of the Whole and reported without amendment. 

By unanimous consent, the said bill was read the third time and passed. 

The House resolved itself again into Committee of Supply. 

(In the Covfvmittee) 
The following resolution was adopted: 

SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES (A) 1965-66 

LABOUR 

8a Payments in accordance with terms and conditions 
approved by the Governor in Council under the Winter 



278 HOUSE OF COMMONS June 18, 1965 

House Building Incentive Program during the fiscal 
years 1964-65 and 1965-66 of $500 per dwelling unit 
substantially built during the period November 15, 1964 
to March 31, 1965— To extend to April 15, 1965 the 
termination date of the period referred to in Labour 
Vote 8b of the Appropriation Act No. 10, 1964; to 
authorize payments in the current fiscal year of undis- 
charged commitments under Labour Vote 34d of the 
Appropriation Act No. 5, 1963; and to supplement 
the said Vote 8b $ 2,000,000 00 

Resolution to be reported. 



The said resolution was reported and concurred in, and the Committee of 
Supply obtained leave to sit again at the next sitting of the House. 



The House resolved itself again into Committee of Ways and Means. 

(In the Cormnittee) 

The following resolution was adopted: 

Resolved, — That towards making good the Supply granted to Her Majesty 
on account of certain expenses of the public service for the fiscal year ending 
31st March, 1966, the sum of $2,000,000.00 be granted out of the Consolidated 
Revenue Fund of Canada. 

Resolution to be reported. 



The said resolution was reported and concurred in and the Committee of 
Ways and Means obtained leave to sit again at the next sitting of the House. 



Mr. MacNaught for Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Sharp, by leave of the 
House presented Bill C-122, An Act for granting to Her Majesty certain sums 
of money for the public service for the financial year ending the 31st March, 
1966, which was read the first time. 

By unanimous consent, the said bill was read the second time, considered 
in Committee of the Whole, reported without amendment, read the third time 
and passed. 



[Private Members' Business was called pursuant to 
provisional Standing Order 15(3)1 

(Public Bills) 

The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-7, An Act to 
amend the Juvenile Delinquents Act (Application to Mentally Retarded) ; 



June 18, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 279 

Mr. Howe (Hamilton South), seconded by Mr. Knowles, moved, — That the 
said bill be now read a second time. 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following paper having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
was laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Lamontagne, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Return 
to an Order of the House, dated June 16, 1965, (Question No. 664) showing: 
1. What are the names, classifications, titles and salaries of all personnel 
hired by the Centennial Commission since April 22, 1963? 

2. What are the names, classifications, titles and salaries of all personnel 
hired by contract by and for the Centennial Commission since April 22, 1963? 

3. What are the names, classifications, titles and salaries of all personnel 
hired for the Centennial Commission by the Civil Service Commission since 
April 22, 1963? 

4. What are the names, classifications, titles and salaries of all personnel 
hired by the Centennial Commission since April 22, 1963 which were appointed 
by Governor in Council? 

5. What are the names, classifications, titles and salaries of all personnel 
hired by the Centennial Commission since April 22, 1963 upon the submission 
of a recommendation of the Secretary of State? 

6. What are the names, classifications, titles and salaries of all the Centen- 
nial Commission personnel appointed since April 22, 1963 which were recom- 
mended to the Secretary of State for employment by the Centennial Commis- 
sioner prior to approval by Governor in Council or Treasury Board? 

7. What are the names, classifications, titles and salaries of all personnel 
hired by the Centennial Commission since April 22, 1963 by approval of the 
Treasury Board following submission of a recommendation by the Secretary 
of State? 

8. What are the names, classifications, titles and salaries of all personnel 
released, transferred or seconded from the Centennial Commission since April 
22, 1963 by means of submission to Governor in Council, Treasury Board Min- 
utes, Ministerial Order or Civil Service approval? 



At 6.02 o'clock p.m., Mr. Deputy Speaker adjourned the House without 
question put until Monday next at 2.30 o'clock p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 
2(1). 



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OTTAWA, MONDAY, JUNE 21, 1965. 



2.30 o'clock p.m. 

The Clerk informed the House of the unavoidable absence of Mr. Speaker, 
whereupon Mr. Lamoureux (Stormont), Chairman of Committees, took the 
Chair as Deputy Speaker, pursuant to the Statute in that case made and pro- 
vided. 

Prayers. 

On motion of Mr. Harley, seconded by Mr. Whelan, the First Report of 
the Special Committee on Food and Drugs, presented to the House on Monday, 
June 14, 1965, was concurred in. 



Mr. Cadieux (Terrebonne), for Mr. Teillet, seconded by Mr. MacNaught, 
moved, — That the House do go into Committee of the Whole at its next sitting 
to consider the following proposed resolution which has been recommended to 
the House by His Excellency: — 

That it is expedient to introduce a measure to amend the Children of 
War Dead (Education Assistance) Act to provide for an increase from twenty- 
five dollars to thirty-four dollars in the amount of the monthly allowance that 
may be paid to a student, and to provide that, whenever the annual rate of 
pension payable to an orphan child under the Pension Act is changed, there 
will be a corresponding change in the additional amount that may be paid to 
a student after he has attained the age of twenty-one years. 

Resolved, — That the House do go into Committee of the Whole at its next 
sitting to consider the said proposed resolution. 



Mr. Cadieux (Terrebonne), for Mr. Teillet, seconded by Mr. MacNaught, 
moved, — That the House do go into Committee of the Whole at its next sitting to 



282 HOUSE OF COMMONS June 21, 1965 

consider the following proposed resolution which has been recommended to 
the House by His Excellency: — 

That it is expedient to introduce a measure to amend the Army Benevolent 
Fund Act to increase the rate of interest payable on the minimum balance 
to the credit of the Fund in each month at the rate of four and three- 
quarters per cent per annum for a period of five years from the coming into 
force of this measure, and thereafter for each successive period of five years, 
at such rate as may be prescribed by the Governor in Council in the year pre- 
ceding the first year of each such period as the effective interest rate on long 
term Government of Canada Bonds for the purposes of this measure. 

Resolved, — That the House do go into Committee of the Whole at its next 
sitting to consider the said proposed resolution. 



Mr. Favreau, seconded by Mr. MacNaught, moved, — That the House do 
go into Committee of the Whole at its next sitting to consider the following 
proposed resolution which has been recommended to the House by His 
Excellency: — 

That it is expedient to introduce a measure to amend the Judges Act 
to provide salaries for two additional judges of the Supreme Court of Ontario, 
one additional judge of the Supreme Court of New Brunswick and one addi- 
tional judge of the County Court of Ontario. 

Resolved, — That the House do go into Committee of the Whole at its next 
sitting to consider the said proposed resolution. 



Pursuant to Standing Order 39(4), the following three Questions were 
made Orders of the House for Returns, namely: 

*No. 397 — Mr. Coates 

1. What is the total amount of expenditures of the federal government 
made as of this date, or undertaken or planned to be done, directly or indirectly, 
in connection with EXPO 67? 

2. Of the said amount, how much pertains to (a) National Harbours Board 
(b) Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (c) Trans-Canada Highway within 
the City of Montreal (d) the value of any works or services not included in 
(a), (b) or (c)? 

Mr. Stewart, Parliamentary Secretary to the Secretary of State, presented, 
— Return to the foregoing Order. 

No. 507 — Mr. Gauthier 

1. What are the 46 counties in which 118 drainage projects are located? 

2. What are the amounts for each county? 

3. What are the names of the municipalities involved? 

4. What amount is each municipality going to receive? 

Mr. Stewart, Parliamentary Secretary to the Secretary of State, presented, 
— Return to the foregoing Order. 

No. 520 — Mr. Harkness 
1. What kind of agricultural exhibit is proposed for the 1967 World's Fair 
at Montreal? 



June 21, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 283 

2. How many people are working on the preparation of this exhibit and 
who are they? 

3. How much money is being made available for the purpose of the agri- 
cultural exhibit? 

Mr. Stewart, Parliamentary Secretary to the Secretary of State, presented, 
— Return to the foregoing Order. 



Bill C-121, An Act to amend the Fisheries Improvem.ent Loans Act, was 
read the third time and passed. 



The House resolved itself into Committee of the Whole to consider a 
certain proposed resolution to provide for the disposition of Indian Claims; 

And the House continuing in Committee; 

At 6.00 o'clock p.m., Mr. Deputy Speaker took the Chair. 



IPrivate Members' Business was called pursuant to 
provisional Standing Order 15{3)'\ 

(Notices of Motion) 

Item numbered 13, having been called for the first time, was allowed to 
stand at the request of the government. 



Mr. Macquarrie, seconded by Mr. Rapp, moved, — That, in the opinion of 
this House, the government should consider the advisability of establishing 
free trade between Canada and those West Indies islands comprising the 
proposed Eastern Caribbean Federation. — (Notice of Motion No. 14). 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



The House resumed consideration in Committee of the Whole of a certain 
proposed resolution to provide for the disposition of Indian claims. 

(In the Committee) 

The following resolution was adopted: 

Resolved, — That it is expedient to introduce a measure to provide for 
the disposition of Indian claims and in relation thereto, 

1. To provide for the establishment of an Indian Claims Commission; 

2. To provide for the duties of the Commission, its decisions and awards; 

3. To provide for appeals from the decisions and awards of the Commission 
to an Indian Claims Appeal Court; 

4. To provide assistance to Indian bands in preparing and pursuing claims; 
and 

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5. To enact such financial provisions as may be necessary to accomplish 
the purposes of the Act. 

Resolution to be reported. 



The said resolution was reported and concurred in. 



Mr. Nicholson, seconded by Mr. MacNaught, by leave of the House, 
presented Bill C-123, An Act to provide for the disposition of Indian Claims, 
which was read the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next 
sitting of the House. 



The House resolved itself into Committee of the Whole to consider a 
certain proposed resolution respecting the construction by Canadian National 
Railway Company of a line of railway from a point of the Froomfield Spur 
near Sarnia to the property of Canadian Industries Limited, Sombra Township, 
in the County of Lambton, Ontario. 

{In the Committee) 

The following resolution was adopted: 

Resolved, — That it is expedient to introduce a measure to authorize and 
to provide for the construction of a line of railway in the Province of Ontario 
by Canadian National Railway Company from a point of the Froomfield Spur 
near Sarnia in a southerly direction for a distance of approximately twelve 
miles to the property of Canadian Industries Limited in Sombra Township in 
the County of Lambton at a total estimated expenditure of $850,000, not to 
be exceeded by more than fifteen per cent. 

Resolution to be reported. 



The said resolution was reported and concurred in. 



Mr. Benson for Mr. Pickersgill, seconded by Mr. MacNaught, by leave 
of the House, presented Bill C-124, An Act respecting the construction of a 
line of railway in the Province of Ontario by Canadian National Railway 
Company from a point at or near mileage 3.2 of the Froomfield Spur of the 
Canadian National Railway near Sarnia in a southerly direction for a distance 
of approximately 12 miles to the property of Canadian Industries Limited in 
Sombra Township in the County of Lambton, which was read the first time 
and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House. 



The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-119, An Act to 
amend the Customs Act; 

Mr. Benson, seconded by Mr. MacNaught, moved, — That the said bill 
be now read a second time; 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 



June 21, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 285 

Accordinglj^ the said bill was read the second time, considered in Commit- 
tee of the Whole, and reported without amendment. 

By unanimous consent, the said bill was read the third time and passed. 



The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-120, An Act to 
amend the Customs Tariff. 

Mr. Benson, seconded by Mr. Hellyer, moved, — That the said bill be now 
read a second time. 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 

Accordingly, the said bill was read the second time, considered in Com- 
mittee of the Whole and reported without amendment. 

By unanimous consent, the said bill was read the third time and passed. 



Mr. MacNaught, seconded by Mr. Hellyer, moved, — That a joint committee 
of the Senate and House of Commons be appointed to enquire into and report 
upon the problems of consumer credit, more particularly but not so as to 
restrict the generality of the foregoing to enquire into and report upon the 
operation of Canadian legislation in relation thereto; 

That tw^enty-four members of the House of Commons to be designated by 
the House at a later date, be members of the joint committee, and that stand- 
ing order 67(1) of the House of Commons be suspended in relation thereto; 

That the said committee have power to call for persons, papers and records 
and examine witnesses; to sit while the House is sitting, and to report from 
time to time and to print such papers and evidence from day to day as may be 
deemed advisable, and that standing order 66 be suspended in relation thereto; 
and to engage the services of counsel, accountants and such other clerical and 
technical personnel as may be deemed necessary, that the Minutes of Proceed- 
ings of and evidence given before the joint committee at the past session be 
referred to the said committee and be made part of the records thereof; and 
that a message be sent to the Senate requesting that House to unite with this 
House for the above purpose, and to select, if the Senate deems it advisable, 
some of its members to act on the proposed joint committee. 

And debate arising thereon; the said debate was interrupted. 
By unanimous consent, the House reverted to "Motions". 



On motion of Mr. Walker, seconded by Mr. Rinfret, it w^as ordered, — That 
the name of Mr. Pepin be substituted for that of Mr. Basford on the Standing 
Committee on Finance, Trade and Economic Affairs. 



{Proceedings on Adjournnnent Motion) 

At 10.03 o'clock p.m., the question "That this House do now adjourn" was 
deemed to have been proposed pursuant to provisional Standing Order 39-A; 

After debate thereon, the said question w^as deemed to have been adopted. 

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At 10.29 o'clock p.m., Mr. Deputy Speaker adjourned the House until 
tomorrow at 2.30 o'clock p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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OTTAWA, TUESDAY, JUNE 22, 1965. 



2.30 o'clock p.m. 

The Clerk informed the House of the unavoidable absence of Mr. Speaker, 
whereupon Mr. Lamoureux (Stormont), Chairman of Committees, took the 
Chair as Deputy Speaker, pursuant to the Statute in that case made and pro- 
vided. 

Prayers. 

Mr. Gordon, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, delivered a Mes- 
sage from His Excellency the Governor General which was read by Mr. Deputy 
Speaker, as follows: 

GOVERNMENT HOUSE 
OTTAWA 

The Governor General transmits to the House of Commons Supplementary 
Estimates (B) of sums required for the service of Canada for the year ending 
on the 31st March, 1966, and, in accordance with the provisions of The British 
North America Act, 1867, the Governor General recommends these Estimates 
to the House of Commons. 

ROBERT TASCHEREAU, 
Deputy to the Governor General. 

On motion of Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Benson, the said Message and 
Supplementary Estimates (B) were referred to the Committee of Supply. 

Mr. Pennell, from the Standing Committee on Finance, Trade and 
Economic Affairs, presented the First Report of the said Committee, which was 
read as follows: 

Your Committee recommends that it be authorized to sit while the House 

is sitting. 



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By unanimous consent, Mr. Pennell, seconded by Mr. Moreau, moved, — 
That the Fkst Report of the Standing Committee on Finance, Trade and 
Economic Affairs, be now concurred in. 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to, on division. 

Accordingly, the said Report was concurred in. 



Mr. Pennell, from the Standing Committee on Finance, Trade and 
Economic Affairs, presented the Second Report of the said Committee, which is 
as follows: 

Your Committee has considered Bill S-9, An Act to incorporate Principal 
Life Insurance Company of Canada, and has agreed to report it without 
amendment. 



The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-123, An Act to 
provide for the disposition of Indian claims; 



Mr. Nicholson, seconded by Mr. 
said bill be now read a second time. 

And debate arising thereon; 



MacNaught, moved, — That the 



Mr. Barnett, seconded by Mr. Winch, moved in amendment thereto, — 
That Bill C-123 be not now read a second time, but that in the opinion of this 
House consideration should be given to the introduction of legislation that will 
provide for 

(a) an Indian Claims Commission enabled by its terms of reference 
and its composition to assist the Indian peoples of Canada to prepare 
for disposition of all outstanding claims arising out of the oc- 
cupation by non-Indians of territories now within Canada; to search 
out and hear evidence in relation thereto and to make such awards, 
both general and particular, as are just and fair, and 

(b) an Indian Claims Appeal Court, the Presiding Officer of which 
shall be a jurist, other than a Canadian citizen, of international 
repute, which shall hear appeals from any decision of the Com- 
mission. 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said proposed 
amendment, it was negatived on the following division: 

Yeas 

Messrs: 



Barnett, 


Douglas, 


Martin 


(Timmins), 


Prittie, 


Brewin, 


Herridge, 


Mather, 




Saltsman, 


Cameron (Nanaimo- 


Howard, 


Peters, 




Winch— 13 


Cowichan-The 


Knowles, 








Islands), 




Nays 
Messrs: 






Addison, 


Batten, 


Bell, 




Blouin, 


Badanai, 


Beaule, 


Benson, 




Boulanger, 


Balcer, 


Bechard, 


Berger, 




Boutin, 



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28! 


Cadieu, 


Groos, 


Macquarrie, 


Prud'homme, 


Cadieux, 


Guay, 


MacRae, 


Pugh, 


Cameron (High 


Gundlock, 


McCutcheon, 


Rapp, 


Park), 


Habel, 


Mcllraith, 


Regan, 


Cantelon, 


Hahn, 


Mcintosh, 


Rheaume, 


Cantin, 


Hales, 


McLean (Charlotte), 


Ricard, 


Cardiff, 


Harkness, 


McWilliam, 


Rideout (Mrs.), 


Cardin, 


Harley, 


Marcoux, 


Rinfret, 


Caron, 


Hellyer, 


Martin (Essex East) 


, Robichaud, 


Carter, 


Honey, 


Martineau, 


Rochon, 


Chretien, 


Horner (The Battle- 


Matheson, 


Rock, 


Churchill, 


fords), 


Matte, 


Rondeau, 


Coates, 


Irvine, 


Monteith, 


Roxburgh, 


Cote (Chicoutimi), 


Jewett (Miss), 


Moore, 


Ryan, 


Cowan, 


Jorgenson, 


More, 


Sharp, 


Crossman, 


Kelly, 


Moreau, 


Southam, 


Crouse, 


Kennedy, 


Morison, 


Starr, 


Danforth, 


Lachance, 


Muir (Cape Breton 


Stefanson, 


Deachman, 


Laing, 


North and 


Stenson, 


Dionne, 


Lamontagne, 


Victoria), 


Stewart, 


Doucett, 


Laniel, 


Mullally, 


Tardif, 


Drouin, 


Laverdiere, 


Munro, 


Teillet, 


Dube, 


Leblanc, 


Nasserden, 


Temple, 


Emard, 


Legault, 


Nesbitt, 


Thomas, 


Ethier, 


Lessard (Lac-Saint- 


Nicholson, 


Tremblay, 


Fairweather, 


Jean), 


Nielsen, 


Tucker, 


Fane, 


Lessard (Saint- 


Nugent, 


Turner, 


Flemming (Victoria- 


Henri), 


O'Keefe, 


Vincent, 


Carleton), 


Loiselle, 


Olson, 


Wadds (Mrs.), 


Forest, 


Loney, 


Otto, 


Wahn, 


Forgie, 


Macdonald, 


Pascoe, 


Walker, 


Foy, 


MacEachen, 


Patterson, 


Watson (Assiniboia), 


Francis, 


MacEwan, 


Paul, 


Watson (Chateau- 


Gauthier, 


Maclnnis, 


Pennell, 


guay-Huntingdon- 


Gelber, 


Mackasey, 


Pepin, 


Laprairie), 


Godin, 


MacLean (Queens), 


Pigeon, 


Webb, 


Gray, 


MacNaught, 


Pilon, 


Whelan, 


Gregoire, 






Winkler— 153. 



lAt 6.00 o'clock p.m., Private Members' Business was called pursuant to 
provisional Standing Order 15(3)] 

(Private Bills) 

The House resumed debate on the proposed motion of Mr. Wahn, seconded 
by Mr. Hahn, — That Bill S-7, An Act respecting Interprovincial Pipe Line 
Company, be now read a second time. 

After further debate, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 

Accordingly the said bill was read the second time and referred to the 
Standing Committee on Transport and Communications. 



The Order being read for resuming debate on the proposed motion of Mr. 
Basford, seconded by Mr. Whelan, — That Bill C-95, An Act to incorporate 
Laurentide Bank of Canada, be now read a second time; 

And on the proposed motion of Mr. Belanger, seconded by Mr. Latulippe 
in amendment thereto, — That the said bill be not now read a second time but 
that it be read a second time this day six months hence. 



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And, the question being put on the said proposed amendment, it was 
negatived. 

After further debate, the question being put on the main motion it was 
agreed to. 

Accordingly the said bill was read the second time and referred to the 
Standing Committee on Finance, Trade and Economic Affairs. 

The Order being read for resuming debate on the proposed motion of 
Mrs. Konantz, seconded by Mr. Ryan, — That Bill C-99, An Act to incorporate 
Bank of Western Canada, be now read a second time; 

And on the proposed motion of Mr. Laprise, seconded by Mr. Perron, in 
amendment thereto, — That the said bill be not now read a second time but 
that it be read a second time this day six months hence. 

And the question being put on the said proposed amendment, it was 
negatived. 

After further debate, the question being put on the main motion, it was 
agreed to. 

Accordingly the said bill was read the second time and referred to the 
Standing Committee on Finance, Trade and Economic Affairs. 

(Public Bills) 

Order No. 1 having been called, was allowed to stand at the request of 
the government. 

The order being read for the second reading of Bill C-9, An Act to amend 
the Bank of Canada Act (Form and Material of Notes). 

Mr. Cote (Chicoutimi), seconded by Mr. Patterson, moved, — That the said 
bill be now read a second time. 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 

Debate was resumed on the proposed motion of Mr. Nicholson, seconded by 
Mr. MacNaught, — That Bill C-123, An Act to provide for the disposition of 
Indian Claims, be now read a second time. 

After further debate, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to, on division. 

Accordingly, the said bill was read the second time. 

By unanimous consent, Mr. Nicholson, seconded by Mr. Benson, moved, — 
That a Joint Committee of the Senate and House of Commons be appointed to 
consider Bill C-123, An Act to provide for the disposition of Indian Claims, 
with powers to report from time to time its observations and opinions thereon; 
send for persons, papers and records; sit during sittings of the House; and print 
from day to day such papers and evidence as may be ordered by the Committee, 
and that Standing Order 66 be suspended in relation thereto; 



June 22, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 291 

That 14 Members of the House of Commons, to be designated at a later 
date, act on behalf of the House as Members of the said Committee; and 

That a Message be sent to the Senate requesting that House to unite with 
this House for the above purpose, and to select, if the Senate deem advisable, 
some of their Members to act on the proposed Joint Committee. 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 



Bill C-124, An Act respecting the construction of a line of railway in the 
Province of Ontario by Canadian National Railway Company from a point at or 
near mileage 3.2 of the Froomfield Spur of the Canadian National Railway near 
Sarnia in a southerly direction for a distance of approximately 12 miles to the 
property of Canadian Industries Limited in Sombra Township in the County 
of Lambton was read the second time, considered in Committee of the Whole, 
and reported without amendment. 

By unanimous consent, the said bill was read the third time and passed. 



The House resolved itself into Committee of the Whole to consider a 
certain proposed resolution to amend the Children of War Dead (Education 
Assistance) Act. 

(In the Committee) 

The following resolution was adopted: 

Resolved, — That it is expedient to introduce a measure to amend the 
Children of War Dead (Education Assistance) Act to provide for an increase 
from twenty-five dollars to thirty-four dollars in the amount of the monthly 
allowance that may be paid to a student, and to provide that, whenever the 
annual rate of pension payable to an orphan child under the Pension Act is 
changed, there will be corresponding change in the additional amount that may 
be paid to a student after he has attained the age of twenty-one years. 

Resolution to be reported. 



The said resolution was reported and concurred in. 



Mr. Teillet, seconded by Mr. Robichaud, by leave of the House, presented 
Bill C-125, An Act to amend the Children of War Dead (Education Assistance) 
Act, which was read the first time and ordered for a second reading at the 
next sitting of the House. 



The House resolved itself into Committee of the Whole to consider a certain 
proposed resolution to amend the Army Benevolent Fund Act. 

(In the Committee) 

The following resolution was adopted: 

Resolved, — That it is expedient to introduce a measure to amend the Army 
Benevolent Fund Act to increase the rate of interest payable on the minimum 

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balance to the credit of the Fund in each month at the rate of four and three- 
quarters per cent per annum for a period of five years from the coming into 
force of this measure, and thereafter for each successive period of five years, 
at such rate as may be prescribed by the Governor in Council in the year pre- 
ceding the first year of each such period as the effective interest rate on long 
term Government of Canada Bonds for the purposes of this measure. 

Resolution to be reported. 



The said resolution was reported and concurred in. 



Mr. Teillet, seconded by Mr. Robichauld, by leave of the House, presented 
Bill C-126, An Act to amend the Army Benevolent Fund Act, which was read 
the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House. 



The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-118, An Act to 
amend the Income Tax Act and the Federal-Provincial Fiscal Arrangements 
Act; 

Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Mcllraith, moved, — That the said bill be now 
read a second time. 

After debate thereon, the queston being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to on the following division: 

Yeas 







Messrs: 




Addison, 


Dube, 


Lessard (Lac-Saint- 


Paul, 


Badanai, 


Emard, 


Jean), 


Pepin, 


Balcer, 


Eudes, 


Lessard (Saint- 


Peters, 


Barnett, 


Forest, 


Henri), 


Pilon, 


Batten, 


Forgie, 


Loiselle, 


Prittie, 


Bechard, 


Francis, 


Macdonald, 


Prud'homme, 


Benson, 


Gelber, 


MacEachen, 


Rideout (Mrs.), 


Berger, 


Godin, 


MacNaught, 


Rinfret, 


Blouin, 


Gordon, 


Mcllraith, 


Robichaud, 


Boulanger, 


Gray, 


McLean (Charlotte), 


Rochon, 


Cadieux, 


Greene, 


McWilliam, 


Rock, 


Cameron (High 


Guay, 


Marcoux, 


Roxburgh, 


Park), 


Habel, 


Martin (Essex East), 


, Ryan, 


Cameron (Nanaimo- 


Hahn, 


Martin (Timmins), 


Sharp, 


Cowichan-The 


Harley, 


Mather, 


Stewart, 


Islands), 


Hellyer, 


Matheson, 


Tardif, 


Cantin, 


Herridge, 


Matte, 


Teillet, 


Caron, 


Honey, 


Moreau, 


Temple, 


Carter, 


Jewett (Miss), 


Morison, 


Tremblay, 


Cashin, 


Kelly, 


MullaUy, 


Tucker, 


Chretien, 


Knowles, 


Munro, 


Turner, 


Cote (Chicoutimi), 


LaMarsh (Miss), 


Nicholson, 


Walker, 


Crossman, 


Lamontagne, 


O'Keefe, 


Watson (Chateau- 


Cyr, 


Laniel, 


Olson, 


guay-Huntingdon- 


Deachman, 


Laverdiere, 


Orlikow, 


Laprairie), 


Douglas, 


Leduc, 


Otto, 


Webster, 


Drouin, 


Legault, 


Patterson, 


Whelan, 
Winch— 102. 



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Nays 
Messrs: 



Bell, 


Flemming (Victoria 


- MacLean (Queens), 


Pugh, 


Brewin, 


Carleton), 


Macquarrie, 


Rapp, 


Cadieu, 


Forbes, 


McCutcheon, 


Rheaume, 


Cantelon, 


Grafftey, 


Madill, 


Ricard, 


Cardiff, 


Gundlock, 


Mandziuk, 


Saltsman, 


Churchill, 


Hales, 


Monteith, 


Southam, 


Clancy, 


Horner (Acadia), 


Moore, 


Starr, 


Coates, 


Horner (The Battle- 


More, 


Stefanson, 


Crouse, 


fords), 


Nasserden, 


Stenson, 


Danforth, 


Irvine, 


Nesbitt, 


Thomas, 


Dionne, 


Kennedy, 


Nielsen, 


Vincent, 


Doucett, 


Lambert, 


Noble, 


Watson (Assiniboia), 


Fairweather, 


Laprise, 


Nugent, 


Webb, 


Fane, 


Loney, 


Pascoe, 


Willoughby, 


Fisher^ 


MacEwan, 


Perron, 


Winkler— 58. 



Accordingly the said bill was read the second time, considered in Com- 
mittee of the Whole, and progress having been made and reported, the Com- 
mittee obtained leave to consider it again at the next sitting of the House. 



By unanimous consent, the House reverted to ''Motions' 



On motion of Mr. Walker, seconded by Mr. Rinfret, it was ordered, — 
That the name of Mr. Muir (Cape Breton North and Victoria) be substituted 
for that of Mr. Muir (Lisgar), on the Standing Committee on Labour and 
Employment. 

(Proceedings on Adjournment Motion) 

At 10.27 o'clock p.m., the question "That this House do now adjourn" was 
deemed to have been proposed pursuant to provisional Standing Order 39- A; 

After debate thereon, the said question was deemed to have been adopted. 



Returns and Report Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following paper having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
was laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Favreau, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Copy of an 
Agreement between the Government of Canada and the Government of the 
Province of Saskatchewan for the use or employment of the Royal Canadian 
Mounted Police, pursuant to subsection 3 of section 20 of the Royal Canadian 
Mounted Police Act, chapter 54, Statutes of Canada, 1959. 



At 10.51 o'clock p.m., Mr. Deputy Speaker adjourned the House until 
tomorrow at 2.30 o'clock p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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OTTAWA, WEDNESDAY, JUNE 23, 1965. 



2.30 o'clock p.m. 

The Clerk informed the House of the unavoidable absence of Mr. Speaker, 
whereupon Mr. Lamoureux (Stormont), Chairman of Committees, took the 
Chair as Deputy Speaker, pursuant to the Statute in that case made and pro- 
vided. 

Prayers. 

Mr. Deputy Speaker communicated to the House the following letter: 

GOVERNMENT HOUSE 
OTTAWA 

23rd June, 1965. 
Sir, 

I have the honour to inform you that the Honourable Robert Taschereau, 
P.C, Chief Justice of Canada, acting as Deputy to His Excellency the Governor 
General, will proceed to the Senate Chamber today, the 23rd June, at 5.45 
p.m., for the purpose of giving Royal Assent to certain bills. 

I have the honour to be, 

Sir, 

Your obedient servant, 

A. G. CHERRIER, 
Assistant Secretary to the Governor General. 
The Honourable, 

The Speaker of the House of Commons. 



Mr. Pickersgill, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, laid before the 
House, — Statement dated June 23, 1965, by the Minister of Transport following 
a recent visit to France. (English and French). 



296 HOUSE OF COMMONS June 23, 1965 

Mr. Favreau, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, laid before the House, 
— Copies of a publication entitled "Capital Punishment — Material Relating to 
its Purpose and Value". (English and French). 



On motion of Mr. Walker, seconded by Mr. Rinfret, it was ordered, — That 
the name of Mr. Scott be substituted for that of Mr. Douglas on the Standing 
Committee on Finance, Trade and Economic Affairs. 



On motion of Mr. Walker, seconded by Mr. Rinfret, it was ordered, — That 
the Joint Committee of the Senate and the House of Commons, established 
Tuesday, June 22, 1965, to consider Bill C-123, An Act to provide for the 
disposition of Indian Claims, be composed, in so far as the House of Commons 
is concerned, of the following Members: Messrs. Basford, Blouin, Brewin, 
Brown, Godin, Gundlock, Howard, Konantz (Mrs.), Laprise, Legault, Patterson, 
Rheaume, Stefanson and Watson (Chateauguay-Huntingdon-Laprairie). 



Pursuant to Standing Order 39(4), the following two Questions were made 
Orders of the House for Returns, namely: 

No. 157— Mr. Mather 
What was the amount, in dollars, of Department of National Defence con- 
tracts let, by provinces, in 1960, 1961, 1962, 1963, and 1964? 

No. 570 — Mr, Matheson 

1. How many copies of federal statutes are printed and distributed (a) 
in English, and (b) in French? 

2. What has been the cost to Treasury of printing (a) revised statutes, 
and (b) the annual statutes in English and French? 

3. Is the government examining the article of John D. Honsberger appearing 
in the Canadian Bar Review of May, 1965, on the subject of bilingualism in 
Canadian statutes? 

Mr. Stewart, Parliamentary Secretary to the Secretary of State, presented, 
— Return to the foregoing Order. 



Mr. Doucett, from his place in the House, asked leave under provisional 
Standing Order 26 to move the adjournment of the House for the purpose of 
discussing a definite matter of urgent public importance, and stated the subject 
to be: 

"The distressing situation that has developed in large parts of Quebec 
and Ontario due to the worst drought in living memory, the resulting great 
drop in farm production, the forced selling of livestock due to lack of fodder 
which will seriously depress the entire Canadian livestock market, the ex- 
tremely grave effect on farm income, and the failure of the government to 
take any initiative to determine an immediate course of action to deal with 
this critical emergency". 

Mr. Doucett then handed a written statement of the matter proposed to 
be discussed to the Deputy Speaker who read it to the House. 



June 23, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 297 

Whereupon Mr. Doucett seconded by Mr. Vincent, moved, — That the House 
do now adjourn. 

And debate arising thereon and continuing; 

By unanimous consent, the hour for Private Members' Business was 
suspended. 



A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Senate had passed Bill S-3, An Act to incorporate the Ottawa Terminal 
Railway Company. 



A message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Senate had passed the following bills to which the concurrence of this House 
is desired: 

Bill S-10, An Act respecting The Trustee Board of The Presbyterian 
Church in Canada. — Mr, Cameron (High Park). 

Bill S-11, An Act to incorporate Evangelistic Tabernacle Incorporated. — 
Mr. Stefanson. 

Bill S-12, An Act respecting The Canadian Institute of Mining and 
Metallurgy. — Mr. Moreau. 

Bill S-14, An Act respecting The Pacific Coast Fire Insurance Company. — 
Mr. Basford. 

The said bills were deemed to have been read the first time and ordered 
for a second reading at the next sitting of the House pursuant to Standing 
Order 103(2). 



A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Senate had passed Bill C-116, An Act to amend the Bank Act and the Quebec 
Savings Banks Act, without amendment. 



A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Senate had passed Bill C-122, An Act for granting to Her Majesty certain sums 
of money for the public service for the financial year ending the 31st March, 
1966. 



A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Senate had passed Bill C-121, An Act to amend the Fisheries Improvement 
Loans Act, without amendment. 



A Message was received from the Honourable Robert Taschereau, Chief 
Justice of Canada, in his capacity as Deputy to His Excellency the Governor 
General, desiring the immediate attendance of the House in the Senate Chamber. 



Accordingly, Mr. Deputy Speaker with the House went to the Senate 
Chamber. 

And being returned; 



298 HOUSE OF COMMONS June 23, 1965 

Mr. Deputy Speaker reported that, when the House did attend the Honour- 
able the Deputy to His Excellency the Governor General in the Senate Chamber, 
His Honour was pleased to give, in Her Majesty's name, the Royal Assent to 
the following bills: 

An Act to amend the Central Mortgage and Housing Corporation Act. 

An Act to amend the Bank Act and the Quebec Savings Banks Act. 

An Act to amend the Fisheries Improvement Loans Act. 

And Mr. Deputy Speaker informed the House that he had addressed the 
Honourable the Deputy to His Excellency the Governor General as follows: 

May It Please Your Honour: 

"The Commons of Canada have voted Supplies required to enable the 
Government to defray certain expenses of the public service. 

"In the name of the Commons I present to Your Honour the following Bill: 
'An Act for granting to Her Majesty certain sums of money for the public 
service, for the financial year ending the 31st March, 1966.' 

"To which Bill I humbly request Your Honour's Assent.'* 

Whereupon, the Clerk of the Senate, by Command of the Deputy to His 
Excellency the Governor General, did say: 

"In Her Majesty's name, the Honourable the Deputy to His Excellency 
the Governor General thanks Her Loyal Subjects, accepts their benevolence, 
and assents to this Bill." 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Favreau, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Copy of an 
Agreement between the Government of Canada and the Government of the 
Province of New Brunswick for the use or employment of the Royal Canadian 
Mounted Police, pursuant to subsection 3 of section 20 of the Royal Canadian 
Mounted Police Act, chapter 54, Statutes of Canada, 1959. 

By Mr. Lamontagne, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Report of the 
Civil Service Commission of Canada for the year ended December 31, 1964, 
pursuant to the Civil Service Acts, section 4(4), chapter 48, R.S.C., 1952, and 
section 76(1) chapter 57, Statutes of Canada, 1960-61. (English and French). 

By Mr. Lamontagne, — Return to an Order of the House, dated June 16, 
1965, (Question No. 138) showing: 1. What is the total number of federal 
civil servants throughout Canada? 

2. What is the total number in each department? 

3. How many federal civil servants were employed throughout Canada 
since April 1963, in each department? 

4. What is the total number of employees for each Crown corporation? 



June 23, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 299 

5. How many employees in Crown corporations and departments are 
bilingual and how many are unilingual? 

Financial Statement of the Royal Society of Canada, certified by the 
Auditors, for the period ended February 28, 1965. 

Minutes of Proceedings of the Royal Society of Canada, 1964, pursuant to 
section 9 of An Act to Incorporate the Royal Society of Canada, chapter 46, 
Statutes of Canada, 1883 (English and French). 



At 6.12 o'clock p.m., Mr. Deputy Speaker adjourned the House until 
Friday at 11.00 o'clock a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 2(1) (4). 



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11.00 o'clock a.m. 

The Clerk informed the House of the unavoidable absence of Mr. Speaker, 
whereupon Mr. Lamoureux (Stormont), Chairman of Committees, took the 
Chair as Deputy Speaker, pursuant to the Statute in that case made and pro- 
vided. 

Prayers. 

Mr. Gordon, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, laid before the 
House, — Copy of a letter, dated June 25, 1965, addressed by His Excellency the 
Ambassador of Japan at Ottawa to the Minister of Finance, together with an 
Annex, concerning voluntary controls on the export of certain products to 
Canada for the 1965 calendar year. (English and French). 

By unanimous consent, it was ordered that the said document be printed 
as an appendix to this day's Votes and Proceedings. 



On motion of Mr. Walker, seconded by Mr. Rinfret, it was ordered, — That 
the name of Mr. Baldwin be substituted for that of Mr. Brewin on the Joint 
Committee appointed to consider Bill C-123, An Act to provide for the dis- 
position of Indian Claims; and 

That a Message be sent to the Senate to acquaint Their Honours thereof. 



The following bill from the Senate was read the first time and ordered 
for a second reading at the next sitting of the House: 

Bill S-3, An Act to incorporate the Ottawa Terminal Railway Company. — 
Mr. Pickersgill. 



302 HOUSE OF COMMONS June 25, 1965 

By unanimous consent, Mr. Teillet, seconded by Mr. MacNaught, moved, — 
That the House do go into Committee of the Whole later this day or at its next 
sitting to consider the following proposed resolution which has been recom- 
mended to the House by His Excellency: 

That it is expedient to introduce a measure to amend the War Veterans 
Allowance Act, 1952, to incorporate into the Act Schedule A as authorized 
by the Appropriation Act No. 10, 1964; to allow for further exemptions in 
property and income; also to provide for certain changes in connection with 
the administration of the Act. 

Resolved, — That the House do go into Committee of the Whole later this 
day or at its next sitting to consider the said proposed resolution. 

By unanimous consent, Mr. Teillet, seconded by Mr. MacNaught, moved, — 
That the House do go into Comxmittee of the Whole later this day or at its 
next sitting to consider the following proposed resolution which has been 
recommended to the House by His Excellency: 

That it is expedient to introduce a measure to amend the Veterans' Land 
Act: 

To establish a revolving fund for certain capital receipts and expenditures 
to be called the Veterans' Land Act Fund; 

To provide authority for the Director to pay certain debts incurred by 
veterans to make improvements to land; 

To give the Director greater discretion in varying the payment terms of 
an agreement between the Director and the veteran entered into under sub- 
section (1) of section 10; 

To change the basis for determining the maximum limit of financial 
assistance that may be given to a veteran under subsection (3) of section 10; 

To allow a veteran to lease premises occupied by him under a contract 
under section 10 after the expiration of a period of ten years; 

To authorize the Director, with the consent of the Minister, to enter 
into a contract with a veteran who is in default in respect of a contract previously 
entered into under the Act; 

To require the Director to accept the amount of a contract debt as the 
cost to the Director before the expiration of ten years from the effective date 
of the contract under certain conditions; 

To extend the purposes for which the proceeds of sale of land, improve- 
ments, livestock or farm equipment may be used; 

To extend the purposes for which funds may be advanced by the Director 
to a veteran under subsection (1) of section 15; 

To authorize the Director to grant assistance to veterans who have received 
assistance under the Veterans Rehabilitation Act or the War Service Grants 
Act under certain conditions; 

To extend the purposes for which a grant may, pursuant to sections 38 
or 39, be used; 

To increase the maximum home construction assistance from twelve 
thousand dollars to eighteen thousand dollars; 

To increase the maximum loan available under section 64 from twenty 
thousand dollars to forty thousand dollars and to extend the purposes for 
which a loan, pursuant to this section, may be used; 



June 25, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 303 

To extend the purposes for which a loan may, pursuant to section 64A, 
be used, to increase the maximum loan available thereunder from tvv^elve 
thousand dollars to eighteen thousand dollars and to vary its provisions under 
certain conditions; 

To reduce the deposit payable by a veteran under section 65, to extend 
the purposes for which a loan made thereunder may be used, to increase the 
maximum loan available under this section from four thousand eight hundred 
dollars to ten thousand dollars and to provide for adjustment on loans partially 
advanced at the coming into force of the amendment; 

To provide for consolidation of all outstanding farm improvement assistance 
loans between a veteran and the Director in one agreement and, for the purposes 
of such consolidation, to authorize appropriate variation of the repayment 
period specified in each of the outstanding agreements; 

And to provide further for certain changes in consequence thereof and 
also in connection v/ith the administration of the Act. 

Resolved,— That the House do go into Committee of the Whole later this 
day or at its next sitting to consider the said proposed resolution. 



The House resolved itself again into Committee of the Whole to consider 
Bill C-118, An Act to amend the Income Tax Act and the Federal-Provincial 
Fiscal Arrangements Act. 

And the House continuing in Committee; 

Objection being taken in Committee to the decision of the Chairman 
(Mr. Lamoureux) on a point of order, and an appeal being made to Mr. 
Deputy Speaker; 

Mr. Deputy Speaker, pursuant to section 4 of provisional Standing Order 
59, resumed the Chair, and the Chairman of the Committee made the following 
Report: ''While in Committee of the Whole when the Committee was con- 
sidering Clause 4 of Bill C-118, An Act to amend the Income Tax Act and the 
Federal-Provincial Fiscal Arrangements Act, in amendment thereto the 
honourable Member for Nanaimo-Cowichan-The Islands (Mr. Cameron) 
proposed, — "That Clause 4 be amended by deleting sub-paragraph (2) from 
the proposed new section 12- A and by renumbering the succeeding sub- 
paragraphs". 

The Chair ruled that the amendment could not be accepted and referred 
particularly to the ruling of the Chair made on June 15, 1965, as follows: 

"I believe it is well known to honourable Members that when an amend- 
ment proposes to set aside a measure designed to provide relief, that amendment 
in effect imposes a tax and should not be accepted by the Chair." 

Citation 265(1) of Beauchesne was referred to by the Chair at the time 
and it reads as follows: 

"No Member other than a Minister of the Crown may introduce a Bill 
for the reduction of duties". 

The decision of the Chair in Committee of the Whole was that Clause 4 
provides for an exemption from a tax, and that by adopting the amendment 
proposed by the honourable Member for Nanaimo-Cowichan-The Islands the 
Committee would indirectly be restoring a tax. From this decision an appeal was 
made to the Deputy Speaker". 



304 HOUSE OF COMMONS June 25, 1965 

Mr. Deputy Speaker: I am sure that the honourable Member will under- 
stand that it is very difficult for the Deputy Speaker, under the present circum- 
stances, to rule against the good judgment of the Chairman of the Committee 
of the Whole. Therefore he must confirm the decision reached by the Chairman 
of the Committee of the Whole. Therefore I declare the ruling confirmed. 



The House resumed consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bill C-118, 
An Act to amend the Income Tax Act and the Federal-Provincial Fiscal Ar- 
rangements Act, which was reported without amendment. 

Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Pickersgill, moved, — That the said bill be 
now read a third time and do pass. 

And debate arising thereon; 

Mr. Knowles, seconded by Mr. Barnett, moved in amendment thereto, — 
That Bill C-118, be not now read a third time, but that it be referred back to 
the Committee of the Whole House for the purpose of re-considering Clause 4 
thereof. 

And debate arising thereon, the said debate was, on motion of Mr. Mc- 
Ilraith, seconded by Mr. MacNaught, adjourned. 

The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-125, An Act to 
amend the Children of War Dead (Education Assistance) Act; 

Mr. Teillet, seconded by Mr. MacNaught, moved, — That the said bill be 
now read a second time. 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 

Accordingly, the said bill was read the second time, considered in Com- 
mittee of the Whole and reported without amendment. 

By unanimous consent, the said bill was read the third time and passed. 

The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-126, An Act to 
amend the Army Benevolent Fund Act; 

Mr. Teillet, seconded by Mr. MacNaught, moved, — That the said bill be now 
read a second time. 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 

Accordingly, the said bill was read the second time, considered in Com- 
mittee of the Whole and reported without amendment. 

By unanimous consent, the said bill was read the third time and passed. 

The House resolved itself into Committee of the Whole to consider a certain 
proposed resolution to amend the Judges Act, and progress having been made 
and reported, the Committee obtained leave to consider it again later this day. 

By unanimous consent, the hour for Private Members' Business was 
suspended. 



June 25, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 305 

The House resumed consideration in Committee of the Whole of a certain 
proposed resolution to amend the Judges Act, and further progress having been 
made and reported, the Committee obtained leave to consider it again at the 
next sitting of the House. 



The House resolved itself into Committee of the Whole to consider a 
certain proposed resolution to amend the War Veterans Allowance Act, 1952. 

(In the Comraittee) 

The following resolution was adopted: 

Resolved, — That it is expedient to introduce a measure to amend the War 
Veterans Allowance Act, 1952, to incorporate into the Act Schedule A as 
authorized by the Appropriation Act No. 10, 1964; to allow for further exemp- 
tions in property and income; also to provide for certain changes in connection 
with the administration of the Act. 

Resolution to be reported. 



The said resolution was reported and concurred in. 



Mr. Teillet, seconded by Mr. Mcllraith, by leave of the House, presented 
Bill C-127, An Act to amend the War Veterans Allowance Act, 1952, which was 
read the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the 
House. 



The House resolved itself into Committee of the Whole to consider a 
certain proposed resolution to amend the Veterans' Land Act. 

(In the Committee) 

The following resolution was adopted: 

Resolved, — That it is expedient to introduce a measure to amend the 
Veterans' Land Act: 

To establish a revolving fund for certain capital receipts and expenditures 
to be called the Veterans' Land Act Fund; 

To provide authority for the Director to pay certain debts incurred by 
veterans to make improvements to land; 

To give the Director greater discretion in varying the payment terms of 
an agreement between the Director and the veteran entered into under sub- 
section (1) of section 10; 

To change the basis for determining the maximum limit of financial 
assistance that may be given to a veteran under subsection (3) of section 10; 

To allow a veteran to lease premises occupied by him under a contract 
under section 10 after the expiration of a period of ten years; 

To authorize the Director, with the consent of the Minister, to enter 
into a contract with a veteran who is in default in respect of a contract previously 
entered into under the Act; 



306 HOUSE OF COMMONS June 25, 1965 

To require the Director to accept the amount of a contract debt as the 
cost to the Director before the expiration of ten years from the effective date 
of the contract under certain conditions; 

To extend the purposes for which the proceeds of sale of land, improve- 
ments, livestock or farm equipment may be used; 

To extend the purposes for which funds may be advanced by the Director 
to a veteran under subsection (1) of section 15; 

To authorize the Director to grant assistance to veterans who have received 
assistance under the Veterans Rehabilitation Act or the War Service Grants 
Act under certain conditions; 

To extend the purposes for which a grant may, pursuant to sections 38 
or 39, be used; 

To increase the maximum home construction assistance from twelve 
thousand dollars to eighteen thousand dollars; 

To increase the maximum loan available under section 64 from twenty 
thousand dollars to forty thousand dollars and to extend the purposes for 
which a loan, pursuant to this section, may be used; 

To extend the purposes for which a loan may, pursuant to section 64A, 
be used, to increase the maximum loan available thereunder from twelve 
thousand dollars to eighteen thousand dollars and to vary its provisions under 
certain conditions; 

To reduce the deposit payable by a veteran under section 65, to extend 
the purposes for which a loan made thereunder may be used, to increase the 
maximum loan available under this section from four thousand eight hundred 
dollars to ten thousand dollars and to provide for adjustment on loans partially 
advanced at the coming into force of the amendment; 

To provide for consolidation of all outstanding farm improvement assistance 
loans between a veteran and the Director in one agreement and, for the purposes 
of such consolidation, to authorize appropriate variation of the repayment 
period specified in each of the outstanding agreements; 

And to provide further for certain changes in consequence thereof and 
also in connection with the administration of the Act. 

Resolution to be reported. 



The said resolution was reported and concurred in. 



Mr. Teillet, seconded by Mr. Mcllraith, by leave of the House, presented 
Bill C-128, An Act to amend the Veterans' Land Act, which was read the 
first time and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following paper having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
was laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Sharp, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Order in Council 
P.C. 1965-1054, dated June 10, 1965, authorizing, under section 21 of the 
Export Credits Insurance Act, contracts of insurance by the Export Credits 



June 25, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 307 

Insurance Corporation for the additional sale of 100,000 metric tons of wheat 
to the Polish People's Republic, pursuant to section 21b of the said Act, 
chapter 105, R.S.C., 1952, as amended 1960-61. 



By unanimous consent, at 5.58 o'clock p.m. Mr. Deputy Speaker adjourned 
the House without question put until Monday at 2.30 o'clock p.m., pursuant to 
Standing Order 2(1). 



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Prayers. 



OTTAWA, MONDAY, JUNE 28, 1965. 

2.30 o'clock p.m. 



One petition for a Private Bill was presented in accordance with Standing 
Order 70(1). 



Mr. Gordon, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, delivered a Mes- 
sage from His Excellency the Governor General which was read by Mr. Speaker, 
as follows: 

GOVERNMENT HOUSE 
OTTAWA 

The Governor General transmits to the House of Commons Supplementary 
Estimates (C) of sums required for the service of Canada for the year ending 
on the 31st March, 1966, and, in accordance with the provisions of The British 
North America Act, 1867, the Governor General recommends these Estimates 
to the House of Commons. 

ROBERT TASCHEREAU, 
Deputy to the Governor General. 



On motion of Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Mcllraith, the said Message and 
Supplementary Estimates (C) were referred to the Committee of Supply. 



By unanimous consent, Mr. Drury, seconded by Mr. Mcllraith, moved, — 
That the House do go into Committee of the Whole later this day or at its 
next sitting to consider the following proposed resolution which has been 
recommended to the House by His Excellency: 

That it is expedient to introduce a measure to provide for the payment of 
development grants to assist the establishment of new manufacturing or 



310 HOUSE OF COMMONS June 28, 1965 

processing facilities and the expansion of existing manufacturing or processing 
facilities in order to improve industrial employment opportunities in designated 
areas in Canada; for this purpose to establish in the Consolidated Revenue 
Fund an Area Development Account to which shall be credited an initial 
amount of fifty million dollars; and to effect certain related amendments to 
the Income Tax Act concerning the definition of a manufacturing or processing 
business and the application of section 71 A of that Act in any case where a 
development grant has been authorized to be paid under the said measure. 

Resolved, — That the House do go into Committee of the Whole later this 
day or at its next sitting to consider the said proposed resolution. 



Mr. Pickersgill, seconded by Mr. Mcllraith, moved, — That the House do 
go into Committee of the Whole at its next sitting to consider the following 
proposed resolution which has been recommended to the House by His 
Excellency: 

That it is expedient to introduce a measure to amend the Aeronautics 
Act to authorize the Minister of Transport to establish boards of inquiry to 
investigate aircraft accidents and provide for the payment of the expenses 
of witnesses appearing before these boards; to provide that the Air Transport 
Board shall consist of not less than three and not more than five members; to 
provide that members of the Board shall be appointed for a term not exceeding 
ten years and to provide for retirement of members of the Board appointed 
after the coming into force of the proposed measure at seventy years of age; 
and to provide further for certain changes in connection with the administration 
of the Act. 

Resolved, — That the House do go into Committee of the Whole at its 
next sitting to consider the said proposed resolution. 



Pursuant to Standing Order 39(4), the following five Questions were 
made Orders of the House for Returns, namely: 

No. 70 — Mr. Deachman 
In each year since 1950, what have been the totals of expenditures made on 
behalf of National Defence within the Province of British Columbia by way of 
(a) capital investment and maintenance of all Military, Naval and Air Force 
installations with the Province (b) purchase within British Columbia of naval 
vessels and Armed Forces material of all kinds? 

Mr. Hellyer, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, presented, — Return 
to the foregoing Order. 

No. 134 — Mr. Fisher 

1. Is any consideration being given to the establishment at Sioux Lookout, 
Ontario, of a Regional School for Indians, particularly with the purpose in mind 
of offering trade and technical courses; if so, what other communities are being 
considered for this school? 

2. What representations have been made to the government regarding such 
a school, including the names of persons or organizations putting the argument 
forward? 

Mr. Stewart, Parliamentary Secretary to the Secretary of State, presented, 
— Return to the foregoing Order. 



June 28, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 311 

No. 460 — Mr. More 

Does the Government of Canada and the Department of Public Works 
employ consulting architectural and engineering firms in connection with 
government projects in Ottawa and area and, if so (a) what are the names 
and addresses of the firms so employed, and (b) what are the projects on 
which each firm is engaged? 

Mr. Stewart, Parliamentary Secretary to the Secretary of State, presented, 
— Return to the foregoing Order. 

No. 623 — Mr. Howard 

Since the inception of ARDA, has any approval been given to any projects 
which would be of direct benefit to fishermen and, if so, what is, with respect 
to each such project, (a) the total cost (b) the name of the provincial govern- 
ment involved (c) the federal government's share of the cost (d) the provincial 
government's share of the cost (e) the date of the approval (/) the details? 

Mr. Stewart, Parliamentary Secretary to the Secretary of State, presented, 
— Return to the foregoing Order. 

No. 690 — Mr. Douglas 

1. Is there an irregular shift cycle in operation in the Motor Transport 
Branch at HMCS Shearwater? 

2. If so, (a) when was the irregular shift cycle introduced (b) how does the 
irregular shift cycle operate? 

3. Are any drivers exempt from work on weekends? 

4. If so, why are such drivers exempt from weekend work? 

5. Are seasonal drivers employed in the Motor Transport Branch? 

6. If so, did seasonal drivers receive a pay increase at the same time 
regular drivers received a pay increase? 

7. If not, what was the reason for not granting seasonal drivers a pay 
increase? 

8. What is the basis upon which members of the Motor Transport Branch 
are promoted? 

9. Are permanent drivers assigned to the ambulances at HMCS Shearwater'? 
water? 

10. If not, was it ever the policy to have such permanent ambulance drivers 
and when was any such change made? 

11. On what date was the most recent competition held for the position of 
supervisor for the Motor Transport Branch? 

12. What are the names of those who took part in this competition? 

13. Were any prevailing rate employees disqualified after writing an exam 
for this competition? 

14. If so, what were the reasons for such a disqualification? 

15. Are service vehicles used by naval or civilian personnel for the purpose 
of moving personal household furniture and effects? 

16. Are members of the Motor Transport Branch prevented from going to 
their personad vehicles during working hours? 



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17. If so, to what other sections at HMCS Shearwater does this ruling 
apply? 

Mr. Hellyer, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, presented, — Return 
to the foregoing Order. 



The House resumed the adjourned debate on the proposed motion of 
Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Pickersgill, — That Bill C-118, An Act to 
amend the Income Tax Act and the Federal-Provincial Fiscal Arrangements 
Act, be now read a third time and do pass; 

And on the proposed motion of Mr. Knowles, seconded by Mr. Barnett, 
in amendment thereto, — That Bill C-118, be not now read a third time, but 
that it be referred back to the Committee of the Whole House for the purpose 
of re-considering Clause 4 thereof. 

After further debate, the question being put on the said proposed amend- 
ment, it was negatived on the following division: 

Yeas 





Messrs: 




Aiken, 


Gauthier, 


Maclnnis, 


Pascoe, 


Alkenbrack, 


Grafftey, 


MacLean (Queens), 


Peters, 


Baldwin, 


Gregoire, 


MacRae, 


Plourde, 


Barnett, 


Gundlock, 


McBain, 


Ricard, 


Beaule, 


Hales, 


McCutcheon, 


Saltsman, 


Bigg, 


Harkness, 


Madill, 


Scott, 


Brewin, 


Horner (The Battle- 


Marcoux, 


Slogan, 


Cameron (Nanaimo- 


fords), 


Martin (Timmins), 


Smallwood, 


Cowichan-The 


Howe (Hamilton 


Martineau, 


Smith, 


Islands), 


South), 


Mather, 


Southam, 


Cantelon, 


Howe (Wellington- 


Millar, 


Starr, 


Churchill, 


Huron), 


Monteith, 


Stefanson, 


Coates, 


Irvine, 


Moore, 


Stenson, 


Diefenbaker, 


Jones (Mrs.), 


More, 


Thompson, 


Dionne, 


Jorgenson, 


Muir (Lisgar), 


Vincent, 


Doucett, 


Kennedy, 


Nasserden, 


Wadds (Mrs.), 


Fairweather, 


Kindt, 


Nesbitt, 


Watson (Assiniboia), 


Fisher, 


Knowles, 


Nielsen, 


Webb, 


Flemming 


Lambert, 


Noble, 


Webster, 


(Victoria-Carleton), Laprise, 


Nugent, 


Willoughby, 


Forbes, 


MacEwan, 


Ormiston, 


Winch— 78. 




Nays 






Messrs: 




Armstrong, 


Cameron (High 


Drouin, 


Greene, 


Asselin (Richmond- 


Park), 


Drury, 


Habel, 


Wolfe), 


Cantin, 


Dube, 


Haidasz, 


Badanai, 


Cardin, 


Emard, 


Harley, 


Balcer, 


Carter, 


Ethier, 


Hays, 


Batten, 


Cashin, 


Favreau, 


Hellyer, 


Bechard, 


Choquette, 


Forest, 


Honey, 


Beer, 


Chretien, 


Foy, 


Jewett (Miss), 


Benson, 


Cote (Longueuil), 


Francis, 


Kelly, 


Berger, 


Crossman, 


Gendron, 


Klein, 


Blouin, 


Cyr, 


Godin, 


Konantz (Mrs.), 


Boulanger, 


Davis, 


Gordon, 


Lachance, 


Cadieux, 


Deachman, 


Gray, 


Lamontagne, 



June 28, 1965 


HOUSE 


OF COMMONS 


Lamoureux, 


McMillan, 






Pennell, 


Laniel, 


McWilliam, 






Pepin, 


Leblanc, 


Martin (Essex 


East), 


. PickersgiU, 


Leboe, 


Matheson, 






Pilon, 


Leduc, 


Matte, 






Prud'homme, 


Legault, 


Mitchell, 






Richard, 


Lessard (Saint- 


Moreau, 






Rinfret, 


Henri), 


Mullally, 






Robichaud, 


Lloyd, 


Muni'o^ 






Rochon, 


Loiselle, 


Nicholson, 






Rock, 


Macaluso, 


O'Keefe, 






Rouleau, 


Macdonald, 


OLson, 






Roxburgh, 


MacEachen, 


Otto, 






Ryan, 


Mcllraith, 


Paul, 






Sauve, 



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Sharp, 

Stewart, 

Tardif, 

Teillet, 

Temple, 

Tremblay, 

Tucker, 

Turner, 

Walker, 

Watson (Chateau- 

guay-Huntingdon- 

Laprairie), 
Whelan— 102. 



And the question being put on the main motion, it was agreed to, on 
division. 

Accordingly the said bill was read the third time and passed. 

The House resolved itself again into Committee of Supply. 

And the House continuing in Committee; 

At 6.00 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker took the Chair. 

[Private MeTtihers' Business ica^ called pursuant to 
provisional Standing Order 15(2)1 

(Notices of Motions) 

Mr. Thompson, seconded by Mr. Marcoux, moved, — That, in the opinion 
of this House, the government should give consideration to amending the 
provisions of the Expropriation Act (R.S.C. 1952, c. 106) with a view to 
giving greater protection to citizens against arbitrary interference with their 
property rights by departments of the federal government, and to the establish- 
ment of more suitable procedures for the transfer of title and possession of 
land expropriated under the authority of this Act. — (Notice of Motion No. 13). 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 

The Committee of Supply resumed and progress having been made and 
reported, the Committee obtained leave to sit again at the next sitting of 
the House. 



The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-127, An Act to 
amend the War Veterans Allowance Act, 1952; 

Mr. Teillet, seconded by Mr. Mcllraith, moved, — That the said Bill be 
now read a second time. 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 

Accordingly, the said Bill was read the second time, considered in Com- 
mittee of the Whole, and reported without amendment. 

By unanimous consent, the said Bill was read the third time and passed. 



314 HOUSE OF COMMONS June 28, 1965 

The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-128, An Act to 
amend the Veterans' Land Act; 

Mr. Teillet, seconded by Mr. Pickersgill, moved, — That the said Bill be 
now read a second time. 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 

Accordingly, the said Bill was read the second time, considered in Com- 
mittee of the Whole, reported without amendment, and ordered for a third 
reading at the next sitting of the House. 



(Proceedings on Adjournment Motion) 

At 10.05 o'clock p.m., the question "That this House do now adjourn" was 
deemed to have been proposed pursuant to provisional Standing Order 39- A; 

After debate thereon, the said question was deemed to have been adopted. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Gordon, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Statement 
on the Operations of the Civil Service Insurance Act for the year ended 
March 31, 1965, pursuant to section 21(2) of the said Act, chapter 49, R.S.C., 
1952. (English and French). 

By Mr. Mcllraith, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Copies of 
Statutory Orders and Regulations published in the Canada Gazette, Part II, 
of V/ednesday, June 23, 1965, pursuant to section 7 of the Regulations Act, 
chapter 235, R.S.C., 1952. (English and French). 

By Mr. Mcllraith, — Copies of Statutory Orders and Regulations [Canada 
Labour Code Regulations (General)], published in the Canada Gazette, Part 
II, of Friday, June 25, 1965, pursuant to section 7 of the Regulations Act, 
chapter 235, R.S.C., 1952. (EngUsh and French). 

By Mr. Teillet, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Report of the 
Army Benevolent Fund Board for the year ended March 31, 1965, pursuant 
to section 13 of the Army Benevolent Fund Act, chapter 10, R.S.C., 1952, 
including its Accounts and Financial Statements certified by the Auditor 
General. 



At 10.14 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow 
at 2.30 o'clock p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



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OTTAWA, TUESDAY, JUNE 29, 1965. 



2.30 o'clock p.m. 

Prayers. 

One petition for a Private BiU was presented in accordance with Standing 
Order 70(1). 



A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Senate had passed Bill C-119, An Act to amend the Customs Act, without 
amendment. 



Mr. Richaird, from the Standing Committee on Transport and Communi- 
cations, presented the First Report of the said Committee which was read as 
follows: 

Your Committee recommends that it be authorized to sit while the House 
is sitting, only untU such time as the House adjourns for the Summer recess. 



Mr. Richard, from the Standing Committee on Transport and Communica- 
tions, presented the Second Report of the said Committee, which is as follows: 

Your Committee has considered the following Bills and has agreed to 
report them without amendment: 

Bill S-4, An Act respecting The Algoma Central and Hudson Bay Railway 
Company; 

Bill S-5, An Act respecting Great Northern Railway Company and Great 
Northern Pacific & Burlington Lines, Inc.; and 

Bni S-7, An Act respecting Interprovincial Pipe Line Company. 

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316 HOUSE OF COMMONS June 29, 1965 

Mr. Matheson, from the Standing Committee on External Affairs, presented 
the Second Report of the said Committee, which was read as follows: 

Your Committee recommends that its present terms of reference be ex- 
tended to enable it to submit a report to the House based on the evidence 
adduced by the External Affairs Committee, 1964-65, relating to the problems 
of hate literature and genocide which were referred by the House at the last 
session to the said Committee; to make recommendations thereon; and that 
the relevant Minutes of Proceedings and Evidence of the External Affairs Com- 
mittee, 1964-65, on these matters, be referred to this Committee. 

By unanimous consent, on motion of Mr. Matheson, seconded by Mr. 
Nesbitt, the said Report was concurred in. 



Mr. Forgie, from the Standing Committee on Veterans Affairs, presented 
the First Report of the said Committee, which was read as follows: 

Your Committee recommends that it be granted leave to sit while the House 
is sitting when necessary to accommodate witnesses. 



Mr. Pearson, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, laid before the 
House, — Copy of the Report of a Special Public Inquiry into — 1. the truth of 
certain allegations concerning (a) the offer of a bribe to a lawyer whom the 
American government had retained to take action before the Courts for the 
extradition of a certain Lucien Rivard, (b) pressures brought to bear on him; 
2. the behaviour of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police and the Minister of 
Justice when the said allegations were brought to their attention (The Honour- 
able Frederic Dorion, Commissioner) (English and French). 

By unanimous consent, it was agreed, — That at 7.00 o'clock p.m., this day 
the House will revert to "Motions" for the purpose of hearing a statement by 
the Prime Minister. 



Mr. Pearson, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, laid before the 
House, — Copy of the Final Communique issued following the meeting of Com- 
monwealth Prime Ministers, 1965, together with related papers. 

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, — That the said Communique and 
related papers be printed as an appendix to this day's Hansard. 



Mr. MacEachen, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, laid before the 
House, — Copies of Authentic Texts of Conventions and Recommendations 
adopted by the Forty-eighth Session of the International Labour Conference, 
held in Geneva in July, 1964, (English and French), together with a copy of a 
letter from the Deputy Attorney General of Canada, setting out the legislative 
jurisdiction of these international instruments, as follows: 

Convention and Recormnendation No. 120 concerning Hygiene in Com- 
merce and Offices; 

Convention and Recommendation No. 121 concerning Benefits in the Case 
of Employment Injury; and 

Convention and Recommendation No. 122 concerning Employment Policy. 



June 29, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 317 

Bill C-128, An Act to amend the Veterans' Land Act, was read the third 
time and passed. 

The House resolved itself into Committee of the Whole to consider a 
certain proposed resolution to provide for the payment of development grants 
in certain designated areas; 

And the House continuing in Committee; 

At 6.00 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker took the Chair. 



[Private Members' Business was called pursuant to 
provisional Standing Order 15(2)] 

(Private Bills) 

Bill S-9, An Act to incorporate Principal Life Insurance Company, was 
considered in Committee of the Whole, reported without amendment, read 
the third time and passed. 



By unanimous consent. Bill S-4, An Act respecting The Algoma Central 
and Hudson Bay Railway Company, was considered in Committee of the 
Whole, reported without amendment, read the third time and passed. 



By unanimous consent. Bill S-5, An Act respecting Great Northern Rail- 
way Company and Great Northern Pacific & Burlington Lines, Inc., was con- 
sidered in Committee of the Whole, reported without amendment, read the 
third time and passed. 



The Order being read for the second reading of Bill S-10, An Act respecting 
The Trustee Board of The Presbyterian Church in Canada; 

Mr. Cameron (High Park), seconded by Mr. Cowan, moved, — That the 
said bill be now read a second time. 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it 
was agreed to. 

Accordingly, the said bill was read the second time, and referred to the 
Standing Committee on Miscellaneous Private Bills. 



The Order being read for the second reading of Bill S-11, An Act to 
incorporate Evangelistic Tabernacle Incorporated; 

Mr. Stefanson, seconded by Mr. Rynard, moved, — That the said bill be 
now read a second time. 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 

Accordingly, the said bill was read the second time and referred to the 
Standing Committee on Miscellaneous Private Bills. 

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318 HOUSE OF COMMONS June 29, 1965 

The Order being read for the second reading of Bill S-12, An Act respect- 
ing The Canadian Institute of Mining and Metallurgy; 

Mr. Moreau, seconded by Wahn, moved, — That the said biU be now read 
a second time. 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 

By unanimous consent, the said bill was considered in Committee of 
the Whole, reported without amendment, read the third time and passed. 

The Order being read for the second reading of Bill S-14, An Act respect- 
ing The Pacific Coast Fire Insurance Company; 

Mr. Deachman for Mr. Basford, seconded by Mr. Moreau, moved, — That 
the said bill be now read a second time. 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 

Accordingly, the said bill was read the second time and referred to 
the Standing Committee on Finance, Trade and Economic Affairs. 



(Public Bills) 

Orders numbered 1 and 2 having been called were allowed to stand at 
the request of the government. 

The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-12, An Act to 
amend the Immigration Act (Foreign Intervention in Industrial Disputes); 

Mr. Ormiston, seconded by Mr. Stefanson, moved, — That the said bill be 
now read a second time. 

And debate arising thereon; 

The hour for Private Members' Business expired. 



The House reverted to "Motions" pursuant to agreement made earlier 
this day. 

And after some time; 

The House resumed consideration in Committee of the Whole of a certain 
proposed resolution to provide for the payment of development grants in 
certain designated areas. 

(In the Committee) 

The following resolution was adopted: 

Resolved, — That it is expedient to introduce a measure to provide for 
the payment of development grants to assist the establishment of new manu- 
facturing or processing facilities and the expansion of existing manufacturing 
or processing facilities in order to improve industrial employment opportunities 
in designated areas in Canada; for this purpose to establish in the Consolidated 
Revenue Fund an Area Development Account to which shall be credited an 



June 29, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 319 

initial amount of fifty million dollars; and to effect certain related amend- 
ments to the Income Tax Act concerning the definition of a manufacturing 
or processing business and the application of section 71A of that Act in any 
case where a development grant has been authorized to be paid under the 
said measure. 

Resolution to be reported. 



The said resolution was reported and concurred in, on division. 



Mr. Drury, seconded by Mr. Mcllraith, by leave of the House, presented 
Bill C-129, An Act to provide incentives for the development of industrial 
employment opportunities in designated areas in Canada, and to effect certain 
related amendments to the Income Tax Act, which was read the first time 
and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House. 



The House resolved itself again into Committee of Supply and progress 
having been made and reported, the Committee obtained leave to sit again 
at the next sitting of the House. 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Drury, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Report of Crown 
Assets Disposal Corporation, including its Accounts and Financial Statements 
certified by the Auditor General, for the year ended March 31, 1965, pursuant 
to section 14 of the Surplus Crown Assets Act, chapter 260, and sections 85(3) 
and 87(3) of the Financial Administration Act, chapter 116, R.S.C., 1952. 
(English and French). 

By Mr. Drury, — Report of Canadian Patents and Development Limited, 
for the year ended March 31, 1965, certified by the Auditor General, pursuant 
to sections 85(3) and 87(3) of the Financial Administration Act, chapter 116, 
R.S.C., 1952. (English and French). 

By Mr. Favreau, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Copy of an 
Agreement between the Government of Canada and the Government of the 
Province of Alberta for the use or employment of the Royal Canadian Mounted 
Police, pursuant to subsection 3 of section 20 of the Royal Canadian Mounted 
Police Act, chapter 54, Statutes of Canada, 1959. 

By Mr. Lamontagne, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Report of 
the Centennial Commission, including the report of the Auditor General wi 
the Financial Statements of the Commission, for the fiscal year ended March 
31, 1965, pursuant to section 16 of the Centennial of Canadian Confederation 
Act, chapter 36, Statutes of Canada, 1963. (English and French). 

Eleventh Report of the Clerk of Petitions pursuant to Standing Order 70(7) 
as follows: 

The Clerk of Petitions has the honour to report that the petition of the 
following, presented on June 28, meets the requirements of Standing Order 



320 HOUSE OF COMMONS June 29, 1965 

70. However, this petition was not filed within the time limit specified by 
Standing Order 93: 

Albert Bruce Matthews, Melvin Kirkland Kenny, both of the City of 
Toronto, Ontario, Olcott Damon Smith, of the Town of Farmington, in the 
State of Connecticut, one of the United States of America, and many other 
persons, for an Act to incorporate Aetna Casualty and Surety Company of 
Canada, and/or "La Compagnie Aetna Casualty et Surety du Canada", and 
for other purposes. — Mr. Cameron {High Park). 

By the Examiner of Petitions for Private BiUs, — Sixth Report pursuant to 
Standing Order 100(2), as follows: 

The Examiner of Petitions for Private Bills has the honour to report that 
the following petitioners have complied with the requirements of Standing 
Order 96: 

United Baptist Woman's Missionary Union of the Maritime Provinces for 
an Act to amend its Act of incorporation, deleting the words "Maritime Prov- 
inces" in Section 6 of the said Statutes and substituting therefor the words 
"Atlantic Provinces", and for other purposes. 



At 10.02 o'clock p.m., Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question 
put until tomorrow at 2.30 o'clock p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 2(1). 



14 ELIZABETH II— A.D. 1965 321 

No. 53 

JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS 

OF CANADA 



OTTAWA, WEDNESDAY, JUNE 30, 1965. 

2.30 o'clock p.m. 



Prayers. 



A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Senate do unite with the House of Commons in the appointment of a Joint 
Committee of both Houses of Parliament to consider BiU C-123, intituled: "An 
Act to provide for the disposition of Indian Claims", and to report from time 
to time its observations and opinions thereon; 

That the Senate designate ten Members of the Senate to be members 
of the Joint Committee, namely, the Honourable Senators Aird, Beaubien 
(Provencher) , Belisle, Boucher, Gershaw, Gladstone, Macdonald (Brantford), 
McGrand, Quart and Smith (Kamloops); 

That the Joint Committee have power to send for persons, papers and 
records; to sit during sittings and adjournments of the Senate; to print from 
day to day such papers and evidence as may be ordered by the Joint Committee. 



A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Senate do unite with the House of Commons in the appointment of a Joint 
Committee of both Houses of Parliament to consider the state of penitentiaries 
under the control of the Government of Canada and the plans of the Govern- 
ment in relation thereto, and to report from time to time its observations 
and opinions thereon; 

That the Senate designate nine Members of the Senate to be members 
of the Joint Committee, namely, the Honourable Senators Cameron, Cook, 
CroU, Fergusson, Fournier (Madawaska-Restigouche) y Gouin, Inman, Irvine 
and O'Leary (Carleton); 

That the Joint Committee have power to send for persons, papers and 
records; to adjourn from place to place; to sit during sittings and adjournments 



322 HOUSE OF COMMONS June 30, 1965 

of the Senate; to print from day to day such papers and evidence as may be 
ordered by the Joint Committee. 



A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that 
the Senate had passed the following bill to which the concurrence of this 
House is desired: 

Bill S-18, An Act to incorporate Aetna Casualty Company of Canada. — Mr. 
Cameron (High Park). 

The said biU was deemed to have been read the first time and ordered 
for a second reading at the next sitting of the House pursuant to Standing 
Order 103(2). 



On motion of Mr. Walker, seconded by Mr. Rinfret, it was ordered, — 
That the Standing Committee on Agriculture, Forestry and Rural Development 
under provisional order 65, be composed of the following Members: Armstrong, 
Asselin (Richmond-Wolfe) , Bechard, Beer, Berger, Choquette, Crossman, Dan- 
forth, Doucett, Ethier, Forbes, Gauthier, Gendron, Greene, Gundlock, Habel, 
Hamilton, Herridge, Honey, Horner (Acadia) y Jewett (Miss), Jorgenson, Ken- 
nedy, Langlois, Laverdiere, Leduc, Lessard (LacSaint-Jean) , Loney, Matte, 
Moore, Muir (Lisgar), MuUally, Olson, Ouellet, Peters, Pugh, Rapp, Roxburgh, 
Saltsman, Tucker, Vincent, Watson (Chdteauguay -Hunting don-Lapr air e), 
Watson (Assinihoia) , Webb, and Whelan. ^^ 



Pursuant to Standing Order 39(4) the following six Questions were made 
Orders of the House for Returns, namely: 

No. 211 — Mr. Caouette 

1. What are the subsidiaries of (a) Canadian National Railways (b) Poly- 
mer Corporation Limited (c) Eldorado Mining and Refining Limited? 

2. Who is responsible for the appointment of the administrators of such 
subsidiaries? 

3. What is the share-capital of these subsidiaries? 

4. What is the function of these subsidiaries? 

5. Do these subsidiaries pay taxes? 

6. Who approves the operational and capital budgets of these subsidiaries? 

7. Does a Crown Corporation require ministerial or governmental authority 
to possess subsidiaries? 

Mr. Stewart, Parliamentary Secretary to the Secretary of State, presented, 
— ^Return to the foregoing Order. 

No. 519 — Mr. Orlikow 

1. How many contracts has Canadair, Montreal, received from the Govern- 
ment of Canada in each of the past ten years? 

2. What were the products purchased by the Government of Canada imder 
each of these contracts? 

3. What was the value of each of these contracts in the past ten years? 

Mr. Stewart, Parliamentary Secretary to the Secretary of State, presented, 
— Return to the foregoing Order. 



June 30, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 323 

No. 548— Mr. Scott 

1. Since April 8, 1963, how many lawyers have been employed by Central 
Mortgage and Housing Corporation in the area of Metropolitan Toronto? 

2. In each case, what was the name of each lawyer and the remuneration 
paid to each? 

Mr. Stewart, Parliamentary Secretary to the Secretary of State, presented, 
— Return to the foregoing Order. 

No. 678 — Mr. Orlikow 

1. How much money has the Canadian Government contributed to the 
development of the High Altitude Research Programme in each of the past 
three years? 

2. How much money has HARP received from the U.S. Government sources 
in each of the past three years? 

3. Has the Canadian Government made a commitment to HARP for the 
next year and, if so, how much money has been promised to HARP under this 
commitment? 

4. Has the normal increase in funding expected in the case of a successful 
programme been applied in this case, that is 3 to 1? 

5. What other sources of funds does HARP have and how much will it 
receive from these sources for the coming year and the year following? 

6. Did HARP have a contract from the Canadian Government for the 
past year and, if so (a) when was the contract drawn up (b) when was the 
contract signed (c) how much money was allocated to HARP under this 
contract? 

7. Is any of the HARP money spent in Canada through the contracting 
and sub-contracting of HARP work to Canadian industry and, if so, how much 
money, by what companies and where is it spent? 

8. Where are HARP's launching sites at the present time? 

9. Is HARP contemplating new launching sites and, if so, where? 

10. Were any Canadian launching sites considered by HARP and proposed 
to the government and, if so, where were these launching sites? 

11. Were these proposed sites turned down by the Canadian Govern- 
ment and, if so, for what reason? 

12. Have the ultimate implications of the HARP project in terms of defence 
been adequately considered? 

13. In this field is the possible production potential in which Canadian 
industry could be involved being considered? 

14. Are systems studies which lead to recommendations and adoption of 
military or commercial systems being carried out by entirely independent 
and objective research consultants or are they being carried out by systems 
consultants whose companies are financed and backed by the producers of 
hardware equipment which would of necessity indicate biased judgment and 
an approach to the solution of problems designed to specifically boost the 
products of the controlling companies? 

Mr. Stewart, Parliamentary Secretary to the Secretary of State, presented, 
— Return to the foregoing Order. 

No. 792 — Mr. Harkness 
1. In how many daily newspapers throughout Canada did an advertise- 
ment about the Labour Code, containing questions to and answers by the 
Minister of Labour, appear? 

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324 HOUSE OF COMMONS June 30, 1965 

2. Was this a full-page advertisement in each of these newspapers, if 
not, in how many newspapers was it a full-page advertisement and what was 
the size of the advertisement in other newspapers? 

3. What was the cost of this advertisement for each of the newspapers 
in which it appeared? 

4. Out of what Parliamentary Vote was the cost of this advertisement 
paid? 

Mr. Stewart, Parliamentary Secretary to the Secretary of State, presented, 
— Return to the foregoing Order. 

No. 799 — Mr. Boutin 

1. What has been the total production of butter in Canada during the years 
1963, 1964 and 1965, to date? 

2. Does Canada export any butter and, if so (a) to what countries, and 
(b) what has been the total amount of such exports in the years 1963, 1964 
and 1965, to date? 

3. What was the percentage of butter consumed on the domestic market 
in 1963, 1964 and 1965, to date? 

4. What was the disposition of unsold production in 1963, 1964 and 1965, 
to date? 

Mr. Stewart, Parliamentary Secretary to the Secretary of State, presented, 
— Return to the foregoing Order. 

Notices of Motions for the Production of Papers Nos. 39, 45, 46, 47, 53 
and 54 were allowed to stand at the request of the government. 

Pursuant to provisional order adopted on April 20, 1964, it was resolved, — 
That an humble Address be presented to His Excellency praying that he will 
cause to be laid before this House a copy of all correspondence between Prem- 
ier Ross Thatcher and/or other Ministers in the Saskatchewan Government and 
the Prime Minister and/or Minister of Agriculture since June 1, 1964 in con- 
nection with a road which the provincial government wishes the federal gov- 
ernment to build or finance in the Morris provincial constituency. — {Notice of 
Motion for the Production of Papers No. 48 — Mr, Maclnnis). 

Pursuant to provisional order adopted on April 20, 1964, it was ordered, — 
That there be laid before this House a copy of a letter addressed by the Quebec 
Minister of Agriculture, to the federal Minister of Agriculture, dated Septem- 
ber 9, 1964 regarding a farm assistance progranmie. — (Notice of Motion for 
the Production of Papers No. 49 — Mr. Laprise). 

Pursuant to provisional order adopted on April 20, 1964, it was ordered, — 
That there be laid before this House a copy of all correspondence exchanged 
between Mr. Bernard Power and the Minister of Transport during the month 
of June 1965. — {Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers No. 50 — Mr. 
Laprise). 

Pursuant to provisional order adopted on April 20, 1964, it was resolved, — 
That an humble Address be presented to His Excellency praying that he will 
cause to be laid before this House a copy of all correspondence exchanged be- 



June 30, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 325 

tween the Secretary of State for External Affairs and the Government of the 
Republic of China (Formosa) respecting an invitation extended to that Govern- 
ment on behalf of the Canadian Corporation for the 1967 World Exhibition to 
participate in the Universal and International Exhibition of 1967. — {Notice of 
Motion for the Production of Papers No. 51 — Mr. Hamilton). 

Pursuant to provisional order adopted on April 20, 1964, it was resolved, — 
That an humble Address be presented to His Excellency praying that he will 
cause to be laid before this House a copy of all correspondence, telegrams and 
other documents exchanged between the government or any agency, depart- 
ment or branch thereof and the Government of Saskatchewan or any agency or 
department or branch thereof since January 1, 1960 relating to the application 
of medical services to the Indian people in Saskatchewan. — {Notice of Motion 
for the Production of Papers No. 52 — Mr. Howard). 

Pursuant to provisional order adopted on April 20, 1964, it was ordered, — 
That there be laid before this House a copy of all correspondence, telegrams or 
other documents exchanged between the government or any agency, depart- 
ment or branch thereof, and any person, Town Council or organization, re- 
lating to the retention of Mulgrave, N.S. as an alternate winter port. — {Notice 
of Motion for the Production of Papers No. 55 — Mr. MacEwan). 



The House resolved itself again into Committee of Supply. 

{In the CoTmnittee) 
The following resolution was adopted: 

SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES (C) 1965-66 
LOANS, INVESTMENTS AND ADVANCES 

INDUSTRY 

L27c Loans, in the current and subsequent fiscal years and in 
accordance with terms and conditions prescribed by 
the Governor in Council, to assist manufacturers of 
automotive products in Canada affected by the Can- 
ada-United States Agreement on Automotive Products 
to adjust and expand their production; such loans 
to be made for the purpose of acquisition, construc- 
tion, installation, modernization, development, con- 
version or expansion of land, buildings, equipment, 
facilities or machinery and for working capital; and 
to authorize, notwithstanding Section 30 of the 
Financial Administration Act, total commitments of 
$20,000,000 for the foregoing purposes during the 
current and subsequent fiscal years $ 10,000,000 00 

Resolution to be reported. 



The said resolution was reported and concurred in, and the Committee 
of Supply obtained leave to sit again later this day. 



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326 HOUSE OF COMMONS June 30, 1965 

A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Senate had passed the following bills, without amendment: 

Bill C-125, An Act to amend the Children of War Dead (Education 
Assistance) Act. 

Bill C-126, An Act to amend the Army Benevolent Fund Act. 

Bill C-127, An Act to amend the War Veterans Allowance Act, 1952. 

Bill C-124, An Act respecting the construction of a line of railway in 
the Province of Ontario by Canadian National Railway Company from a point 
at or near Sarnia in a southerly direction for a distance of approximately 12 
miles to the property of Canadian Industries Limited in Sombra Township 
in the County of Lambton. 

Bill C-120, An Act to amend the Customs Tariff. 

Bill C-118, An Act to amend the Income Tax Act and the Federal-Provin- 
cial Fiscal Arrangements Act. 

Bill C-128, An Act to amend the Veterans' Land Act. 



By unanimous consent, the hour for Private Members' Business and the 
application of Standing Order 6(3) with relation to this day's sitting were 
suspended. 



The House resolved itself again into Committee of Supply. 

{In the Committee) 
The following resolution was adopted: 

SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES (C), 1965-66 

LABOUR 

5c To extend the purposes of Labour Vote 5, Main Estimates, 
1965-66 to include authority for payments of transi- 
tional assistance, in accordance with regulations ap- 
proved by the Governor in Council, to workers in 
automotive manufacturing and pafts industries who 
become unemployed as a result of the operation 
of the Canada-United States Agreement on Auto- 
motive Products $ 5,000,000 00 

Resolution to be reported. 



The said resolution was reported and concurred in, and the Committee of 
Supply obtained leave to sit again later this day. 



The House resolved itself again into Committee of Ways and Means. 

(In the Com,mittee) 

The following resolution was adopted: 

Resolved, — That towards making good the Supply granted to Her Majesty 
on account of certain expenses of the public service for the fiscal year ending 



June 30, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 327 

31st March, 1966, the sum of $15,000,000 be granted out of the Consolidated 
Revenue Fund of Canada. 

Resolution to be reported. 



The said resolution was reported and concurred in, and the Committee 
of Ways and Means obtained leave to sit again later this day. 



Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Mcllraith, by leave of the House, presented 
Bill C-130, An Act for granting to Her Majesty certain sums of money for the 
public service for the financial year ending the 31st March, 1966, which was 
read the first time. 

By unanimous consent, the said bill was read the second time, considered 
in Committee of the Whole, reported without amendment, read the third time 
and passed. 



The House resolved itself again into Committee of Supply. 

{In the Committee) 
The following resolution was adopted: 

INTERIM SUPPLY 
Resolved, That a sum not exceeding $1,651,292,282.42, being the aggregate 



of— 



(a) four-twelfths of the total of all the Items set forth in the Main 
Estimates for the fiscal year ending 31st March, 1966, laid before 
the House of Commons at the present session of Parliament, except 
External Affairs Item 15, Mines and Technical Surveys Item 70; 
and External Affairs Item 20 for which the proportion is three- twelfths, 
$1,456,413,323.00; 

(b) an additional four-twelfths of the amounts of Agriculture Items 25 
and 45, Legislation Item 15, and Loans, Investments and Advances 
Item L30 (Schedule A) of the said Main Estimates, $4,664,625.00; 

(c) an additional two-twelfths of the amount of Northern Affairs and 
National Resources Item 15, (Schedule B) of the said Main Estimates, 
$2,258,500.00; 

(d) an additional one- twelfth of the amounts of Agriculture Items 5 and 
60, Fisheries Item 10, Mines and Technical Surveys Items 10, 15, 25, 
45 and 60, National Film Board Item 1, Northern Affairs and National 
Resources Item 45, (Schedule C) of the said Main Estimates, $9,566,- 
025.00; 

(e) seven- twelfths of all the Items set forth in the Supplementary Esti- 
mates (B) laid before the House of Commons at the present session 
of Parliament, $162,394,142.75; 

(/) an additional four-twelfths of the amounts of Agriculture Items 17b, 
25b and 35b, Mines and Technical Surveys Item 70b, and Loans, Invest- 



328 HOUSE OF COMMONS June 30, 1965 

ments and Advances Item L78b, (Schedule D) of the said Supple- 
mentary Estimates, $7,245,666.67; 

(g) an additional three- twelfths of the amount of Finance Item 15b, 
(Schedule E) of the said Supplementary Estimates, $8,750,000.00, 

be granted to Her Majesty on account of the fiscal year ending 31st March, 
1966. 

Resolution to be reported. 



The said resolution was reported and concurred in and the Committee 
of Supply obtained leave to sit again at the next sitting of the House. 



The House resolved itself again into Committee of Ways and Means. 

(In the Committee) 

The following resolution was adopted: 

Resolved, That towards making good the Supply granted to Her Majesty on 
account of certain expenses of the public service for the fiscal year ending 
31st March, 1966, the sum of $1,651,292,282.42 be granted out of the Con- 
solidated Revenue Fund of Canada. 

Resolution to be reported. 



The said resolution was reported and concurred in, and the Committee 
of Ways and Means obtained leave to sit again at the next sitting of the 
House. 



Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Mcllraith, by leave of the House, presented 
Bill C-131, An Act for granting to Her Majesty certain sums of money for 
the public service for the financial year ending the 31st March, 1966, which 
was read the first time. 

By unanimous consent, the said bill was read the second time, considered 
in Committee of the Whole, reported without amendment, read the third 
time and passed. 



The Order being read for the second reading of Bill C-129, An Act to 
provide incentives for the development of industrial employment opportunities 
in designated areas in Canada, and to effect certain related amendments to 
the Income Tax Act; 

Mr. Drury, seconded by Mr. Mcllraith, moved, — That the said bill be now 
read a second time. 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 

Accordingly, the said bill was read the second time, considered in Com- 
mittee of the Whole and reported without amendment. 

By unanimous consent, the said bill was read the third time and passed. 



June 30, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 329 

A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Senate had passed Bill C-130, An Act for granting to Her Majesty certain 
sums of money for the public service for the financial year ending the 31st 
March, 1966. 



By unanimous consent, it was agreed that the appendix to Hansard of 
June 29, 1965, be reprinted as an appendix to this day's Hansard to include 
the part entitled "Agreed Memorandum on the Commonwealth Secretariat". 



Mr. Mcllraith, seconded by Mr. Gordon, moved, — That the Report of 
the Commissioners of Internal Economy relating to classification changes 
affecting a number of positions in the House of Commons, laid before the 
House on June 14, 1965, and printed in the Votes and Proceedings of that date, 
be now concurred in. 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 

Accordingly, the said Report was concurred in. 



Mr. Mcllraith, seconded by Mr. Martin (Essex East), moved, — That, when 
this House adjourns this day, it stand adjourned until Monday, September 27th, 
1965, at 2.30 o'clock p.m., provided always that if it appears to the satisfaction 
of Mr. Speaker, after consultation with Her Majesty's Government, that the 
public interest requires that the House should meet at an earlier time during 
the adjournment, Mr. Speaker may give notice that he is so satisfied, and 
thereupon the House shall meet at the time stated in such notice, and shall 
transact its business as if it had been duly adjourned to that time. 

In the event of Mr. Speaker being unable to act owing to illness or other 
cause, the Deputy Speaker shall act in his stead for the purpose of this order. 

After debate thereon, the question being put on the said motion, it was 
agreed to. 



The sitting was suspended to the call of the Chair. 
And the sitting having been resumed. 



A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Senate had passed Bill C-131, An Act for granting to Her Majesty certain sums 
of money for the public service for the financial year ending the 31st March, 
1966. 



A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the 
Senate had passed Bill C-129, An Act to provide incentives for the development 
of industrial employment opportunities in designated areas in Canada, and to 
effect certain related amendments to the Income Tax Act, without any 
amendment. 



330 HOUSE OF COMMONS Jiine 30, 1965 

Mr. Speaker communicated to the House the following letter: 

GOVERNMENT HOUSE 
OTTAWA 

30th Jime, 1965. 
Sir, 

I have the honour to inform you that the Honourable Robert Taschereau, 
P.C., Chief Justice of Canada, acting as Deputy to His Excellency the Governor 
General, will proceed to the Senate Chamber today, the 30th June, at 10.00 
o'clock p.m., for the purpose of giving Royal Assent to certain bills. 

I have the honour to be, 

Sir, 
Your obedient servant, 

A. G. CHERRIER, 
Assistant Secretary to the Governor General. 
The Honourable, 

The Speaker of the House of Coxmnons. 



A Message was received from the Honourable Robert Taschereau, Chief 
Justice of Canada, in his capacity as Deputy to His Excellency the Gk)vemor 
General, desiring the immediate attendance of the House in the Senate Chamber. 



Accordingly, Mr. Speaker with the House went to the Senate Chamber. 
And being returned; 



Mr. Speaker reported that, when the House did attend the Honourable 
the Deputy to His Excellency the Governor General in the Senate Chamber, 
His Honour was pleased to give, in Her Majesty's name, the Royal Assent to 
the following bills: 

An Act to amend the War Veterans Allowance Act, 1952. 

An Act to amend the Veterans' Land Act. 

An Act to amend the Children of War Dead (Education Assistance) Act. 

An Act to amend the Army Benevolent Fund Act. 

An Act to amend the Income Tax Act and the Federal-Provincial Fiscal 
Arrangements Act. 

An Act respecting the construction of a line of railway in the Province of 
Ontario by Canadian National Railway Company from a point at or neau: 
mileage 3.2 of the Froomfield Spur of the Canadian National Railway near 
Samia in a southerly direction for a distance of approximately 12 miles to the 
property of Canadian Industries Limited in Sombra Township in the County of 
Lambton. 

An Act to amend the Customs Tariff. 

An Act to amend the Customs Act. 

An Act respecting The Algoma Central and Hudson Bay Railway Company. 

An Act respecting Great Northern Railway Company and Great Northern 
Pacific & Burlington Lines, Inc. 

An Act to incorporate Principal Life Insurance Company of Canada. 

An Act respecting The Canadian Institute of Mining and Metallurgy. 



June 30, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 331 

An Act to provide incentives for the development of industrial employment 
opportunities in designated areas in Canada, and to effect certain related 
amendments to the Income Tax Act". 



And Mr. Speaker informed the House that he had addressed the Honourable 
the Deputy to His Excellency the Governor General as follows: 

May It Please Your Honour: 

"The Commons of Canada have voted Supplies required to enable the 
Government to defray certain expenses of the public service. 

**In the name of the Commons I present to Your Honour the following Bills: 
'An Act for granting to Her Majesty certain sums of money for the public 

service, for the financial year ending the 31st March, 1966.' 

'An Act for granting to Her Majesty certain sums of money for the public 

service, for the financial year ending the 31st March, 1966.' 

"To which Bills I humbly request Your Honour's Assent." 

Whereupon, the Clerk of the Senate, by Command of the Deputy to His 
Excellency the Governor General, did say: 

"In Her Majesty's name, the Honourable the Deputy to His Excellency 
the Governor General thanks Her Loyal Subjects, accepts their benevolence, 
and assents to these Bills." 



Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House 

The following papers having been deposited with the Clerk of the House 
were laid upon the Table pursuant to Standing Order 40, namely: 

By Mr. Drury, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Report of the 
Atomic Energy Control Board of Canada for the year ended March 31, 1965, 
pursuant to section 21(1) of the Atomic Energy Control Act, chapter 11, R.S.C., 
1952. (English and French). 

By Mr. Drury, — Report of Atomic Energy of Canada Limited, including 
its Accounts and Financial Statements certified by the Auditor General, for 
the year ended March 31, 1965, pursuant to sections 85(3) and 87(3) of the 
Financial Administration Act, chapter 116, R.S.C., 1952. 

By Mr. Drury, — Report of the Canadian Commercial Corporation, includ- 
ing its Accounts and Financial Statements certified by the Auditor General, 
for the year ended March 31, 1965, pursuant to sections 85(3) and 87(3) of 
the Financial Administration Act, chapter 116, R.S.C., 1952. (English and 
French). 

By Mr. Gordon, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Report on the 
Operations of the Municipal Development and Loan Board for the year ended 
March 31, 1965, pursuant to section 20 of the Municipal Development and 
Loan Act, chapter 13, Statutes of Canada, 1963, including its Accounts and 
Financial Statements certified by the Auditor General. (English and French). 



332 HOUSE OF COMMONS June 30, 1965 

By Mr. Gordon, by command of His Excellency the Governor General, — 
Report on the Administration of the Veterans' Business and Professional Loans 
Act for the year ended March 31, 1965, pursuant to section 13 of the said Act, 
chapter 278, R.S.C., 1952 (English and French). 

By Mr. Gordon, by command of His Excellency the Governor General, — 
Report on the Administrations of the Fisheries Improvement Loans Act for 
the year ended March 31, 1965, pursuant to section 12(2) of the said Act, 
chapter 46, Statutes of Canada, 1955. (English and French). 

By Mr. Hays, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Report of the 
Farm Credit Corporation, including its Accounts and Financial Statements 
certified by the Auditor General, for the year ended March 31, 1965, pursuant 
to sections 85(3) and 87(3) of the Financial Administration Act, chapter 116, 
R.S.C., 1952. (English and French). 

By Mr. Hays, — Report on Prairie Farm Rehabilitation and Related Activi- 
ties, for the year ended March 31, 1964, pursuant to section 12 of the Prairie 
Farm Rehabilitation Act, chapter 214, R.S.C., 1952. 

By Mr. Hellyer, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Statement of 
Moneys received and disbursed in the Special Account (Replacement of Mate- 
riel) for the year ended March 31, 1965, pursuant to section 11(4) of the 
National Defence Act, chapter 184, R.S.C., 1952. 

By Mr. Hellyer, — Statement on the Standing and Transactions of the 
Canadian Forces Superannuation Account as at March 31, 1965, together 
with a Statement of Annuities, Annual Allowances, Cash Termination Allow- 
ances, and Return of Contributions for the year ended March 31, 1965, pursuant 
to section 26 of the Canadian Forces Superannuation Act, chapter 21, Statutes 
of Canada, 1959. 

By Mr. Hellyer, — Report of Defence Construction (1951) Limited, includ- 
ing its Accounts and Financial Statements certified by the Auditor General, 
for the year ended March 31, 1965, pursuant to sections 85(3) and 87(3) of 
the Financial Administration Act, chapter 116, R.S.C., 1952. (English and 
French). 

By Mr. Lamontagne, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Return 
to an Order of the House, dated June 30, 1965, for a copy of all correspondence 
exchanged between Mr. Bernard Power and the Minister of Transport during 
the month of June 1965. — (Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers 
No. 50). 

By Mr. Lamontagne, — Report of the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, 
including its Accounts and Financial Statements certified by the Auditor 
General, for the year ended March 31, 1965, pursuant to section 36 of the 
Broadcasting Act, chapter 22, Statutes of Canada, 1958, and sections 85(3) 
and 87(3) of the Financial Administration Act, chapter 116, R.S.C., 1952. 
(English and French). 

By Mr. Lamontagne, — Report of the National Librarian for the year 
ended March 31, 1965, pursuant to section 13 of the National Library Act, 
chapter 330, R.S.C., 1952. (English and French). 

By Mr. Pickersgill, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Report of 
the Canadian Maritime Commission for the year ended March 31, 1965, pursuant 
to section 13 of the Canadian Maritime Commission Act, chapter 38, R.S.C., 
1952. (English and French). 



June 30, 1965 HOUSE OF COMMONS 333 

By Mr. Pickersgill, by command of His Excellency the Governor General, — 
Report on the Activities of the Atlantic Development Board for the year 
ended March 31, 1965, including its Financial Statements and the Auditor 
General's report thereon, pursuant to section 19 of the Atlantic Development 
Board Act, chapter 10, Statutes of Canada 1962-63. 

By Mr. Robichaud, a Member of the Queen's Privy Council, — Report of 
the Fisheries Prices Support Board for the year ended March 31, 1965, pursuant 
to section 7 of the Fisheries Prices Support Act, chapter 120, R.S.C., 1952. 

Twelfth Report of the Clerk of Petitions pursuant to Standing Order 70(7) 
as follows: 

The Clerk of Petitions has the honour to report that the petition of the 
following, presented on June 29, meets the requirements of Standing Order 70: 

General Mortgage Service Corporation of Canada, of the City of Toronto, 
Ontario, for an Act to amend its Act of incorporation changing its name to 
"General Mortgage Corporation of Canada" and the description of its bonds 
to "Series A Bonds" and "Series B Bonds", and for other purposes. — Mr. 
Cameron (High Park). 

By the Examiner of Petitions for Private Bills, — Seventh Report pursuant 
to Standing Order 100(2), as follows: 

The Examiner of Petitions for Private Bills has the honour to report 
that the following petitioners have complied with the requirements of Standing 
Order 96: 

General Mortgage Service Corporation of Canada, of the City of Toronto, 
Ontario, for an Act to amend its Act of incorporation changing its name 
to "General Mortgage Corporation of Canada" and the description of its 
bonds to "Series A Bonds" and "Series B Bonds", and for other purposes. 



On motion of Mr. Mcllraith, seconded by Mr. Pickersgill, the House was 
adjourned at 10.37 o'clock p.m., until Monday, September 27, 1965, at 2.30 
o'clock p.m., unless sooner convened, pursuant to the provisions of the Special 
Order made earlier this day. 



PROCLAMATION re DISSOLUTION 




#-^j&* 



GEORGES P. VANIER 
[L.S.] 



CANADA 



ELIZABETH THE SECOND, by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom, 
Canada and Her other Realms and Territories QUEEN, Head of the 
Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith. 

To Our Beloved and Faithful the Senators of Canada, and the Members 
elected to serve in the House of Commons of Canada, and to all whom 
it may concern, — 

Greeting: 

A PROCLAMATION 

WHEREAS We have thought fit, by and with the advice and consent of Our 
Prime Minister of Canada, to DISSOLVE the present Parliament of 
Canada. 

Now Know Ye, that We do for that end publish this Our Royal Proclama- 
tion, and do hereby DISSOLVE the said Parliament of Canada accordingly; 
and the Senators and the Members of the House of Commons are discharged 
from their meeting and attendance. 

In Testimony Whereof We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent 
and the Great Seal of Canada to be hereunto affixed. Witness: Our 
Right Trusty and Well-beloved Counsellor, General Georges P. Vanier, 
a member of Our Most Honourable Privy Council, Companion of Our 
Distinguished Service Order upon whom We have conferred Our 
Military Cross and Our Canadian Forces' Decoration, Governor Gen- 
eral and Commander-in-Chief of Canada. 

At Our Government House, in Our City of Ottawa, this eighth day of Sep- 
tember in the year of Our Lord one thousand nine hundred and 
sixty-five and in the fourteenth year of Our Reign. 

By Command, 

JEAN MIQUELON, 
Deputy Registrar General of Canada. 

GOD SAVE THE QUEEN 
335 



THE MINISTRY 

(according to precedence) 

and their 

PARLIAMENTARY SECRETARIES 



Ministers and their Portfolios 



Rt. Hon. Lester B. Pearson Prime Minister of Canada 

Hon. Paul J.J. Martin Secretary of State for External Affairs 

Hon. John W. Pickersgill Minister of Transport 

Hon. Paul T. Hellyer Minister of National Defence 

Hon. Walter L. Gordon Minister of Finance and Receiver 

General 

Hon. Mitchell Sharp Minister of Trade and Commerce 

Hon. George J. Mcllraith' Minister of Public Works 

Hon. Arthur Laing Minister of Northern Affairs and 

National Resources 

Hon. Maurice Lamontagne Secretary of State 

Hon. Lucien Cardin^ Minister of Justice and Attorney 

General 

Hon. Allan J. MacEachen Minister of Labour 

Hon. Hedard-J. Robichaud Minister of Fisheries 

Hon. J. Watson MacNaught* Minister of Mines and Technical 

Surveys 

Hon. RogerTeillet Minister of Veterans Affairs 

Hon. Judy V. LaMarsh Minister of National Health and 

Welfare 
Hon. Charles M. Drury Minister of Industry and Minister of 

Defence Production 
Hon. Guy Favreau*. President of the Queen's Privy 

Council for Canada 
Hon. John R. Nicholson Minister of Citizenship and 

Immigration 

Hon. Harry W.Hays Minister of Agriculture 

Hon. Rene Tremblay. Postmaster General 

Hon. John J. Connolly Minister without Portfolio and Leader 

of the Government in the Senate 

Hon. Maurice Sauve Minister of Forestry 

Hon. Edgar J. Benson Minister of National Revenue 

Hon. Leo A.J. Cadieux Associate Minister of National 

Defence 

Hon. Lawrence T. Pennell' Solicitor General of 

Canada 
Hon. Jean-Luc Pepin* Minister without Portfolio 



Parliamentary Secretaries 

Mr. Jack Davis 

Mr. Stanley Haidasz 

Mr. Jean-Charles Cantin 



Mr. G. Roy McWilliam 
Mr. John N. Turner 

Mr. John B. Stewart 

Mr. Donald S. Macdonald 

Mr. James A. Byrne 



Mr. Chesley W. Carter 
Mr. John C. Munro 



Mr. Hubert Badanai 

Mr. Bruce S. Beer 
Mr. Alexis Caron 



Mr. Bruce S. Beer 



Transferred from President of the Queen's Privy Council for Canada, July 7, 1965. 
^Transferred from Public Works, July 7, 196S. 
^Transferred from Solicitor General of Canada, July 7, 1965. 

^Resigned as Minister of Justice, June 29, 1965; appointed President of the Queen's Privy Council for Canada, July 7, 1965. 
Appointed, July 7, 1965, on transfer of Hon. J. Watson MacNaught to Mines and Technical Surveys. 
"Appointed, July 7, 1965. 
NOTE:— Hon. William W. Benidickson summoned to the Senate on June 29, 1965. 

Parliamentary Secretaries, appointments and transfers as of July 17, 1965: Mr. Chretien to Prime Minister; 
Mr. Macdonald to Minister of Finance; Mr. Hahn to Minister of Industry; Mr. Cantin to Minister of Jus tice; Mr. Mackasey 
to Minister of National Health and Welfare; Mr. Munro to Minister of Trade and Commerce. 



337 



OFFICERS OF THE HOUSE OF COMMONS 



Speaker The Honourable Alan A. Macnaughton 

Deputy Speaker and Chairman of Committees of the 

Whole House Lucien Lamoureux, Esq. 

Deputy Chairman of Committees of the Whole House Herman M. Batten, Esq. 



The Clerk of the House of Commons Leon-J. Raymond, Esq. , 0. B. E. 

Sergeant-at-Arms Lieutenant-Colonel David V. Currie, V. C. 



338 



LIST OF MEMBERS 



339 



ALPHABETICAL LIST 

OF THE 

MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE OF COMMONS 

Third Session, Twenty-sixth Parliament 



Addison, John H. -York North. 
Aiken, Gordon Harvey-Parry Sound-Muskoka. 
Alkenbrack, A. Douglas-Prince Edward-Lennox. 
Armstrong, Fred T. -Shelburne-Yarmouth-Clare. 
Asselin, Edmund-T. -Notre-Dame-de-Grace. 
Asselin, Patrick-T. -Richmond-Wolfe. 



B 



Badanai, Hubert-Fort William. 
Balcer, Hon. Leon-Trois-Rivieres. 
Baldwin, Gerald W. —Peace River. 
Barnett, Thomas S. -Comox-Alberni. 
Basford, S. Ron-Vancouver-Burrard. 
Batten, Herman M. -Humber-St. George's. 
Beaule, Robert-Quebec East. 
Bechard, Albert-Bonaventure. 
Beer, Bruce S. -Peel. 
Belanger, L. -P. -Antoine— Charlevoix. 
Bell, Thomas M. -Saint John-Albert. 
Benidickson, Hon. William M.^-Kenora-Rainy 

River. 
Benson, Hon. Edgar J. -Kingston. 
Berger, Jean— Montmagny-L'Islet. 
Bigg, F. Jack— Athabasca. 
Blouin, Gustave-Saguenay. 
Boulanger, Prosper-Mercier. 
Boutin, Pierre-Andre— Dorchester. 
Brewin, F. Andrew— Greenwood. 
Brown, James E. -Brantford. 
Byrne, James A. — Kootenay East. 



Cadieu, Albert C— Meadow Lake. 
Cadieux, Hon. Leo— Terrebonne. 
Cameron, Alan John Patrick— High Park. 
Cameron, Colin-Nanaimo-Cowichan-The 

Islands. 
Cantelon, Reg W. -Kindersley. 
Cantin, Jean-Charles— Quebec South. 
Caouette, Real— Villeneuve. 
Cardiff, L. Elston-Huron. 
Cardin, Hon. Lucien— Richelieu- Vercheres. 
Caron, Alexis— Hull. 



Carter, Chesley William-Burin-Burgeo. 

Cashin, Richard J. -St. John's West. 

Chapdelaine, Gerard— Sherbrooke. 

Chatterton, George L. — Esquimalt-Saanich. 

Choquette, Auguste-Lotbiniere. 

Chretien, Jean— Saint-Maurice- Lafleche. 

Churchill, Hon. Gordon-Winnipeg South Centre. 

Clancy, Gordon Drummond— Yorkton. 

Coates, Robert C. -Cumberland. 

Cooper, Clarence Owen-Rosetown-Biggar. 

Cote, Jean-Pierre- Longueuil. 

Cote, Maurice-Chicoutimi. 

Cowan, Ralph B. — York-Humber. 

Grossman, Guy-Kent (N. B.) 

Crouse, Lloyd R. —Queens-Lunenburg. 

Cyr, Alexandre— Gaspe. 



Danforth, Harold W. -Kent (Ont.) 
Davis, Jack— Coast-Capilano. 
Deachman, Grant— Vancouver Quadra. 
Deschatelets, Hon. Jean-Paul-Maisonneuve- 

Rosemont. 
Diefenbaker, Rt. Hon. John George— Prince 

Albert. 
Dinsdale, Hon. Walter G. -Brandon-Souris. 
Dionne, Charle s- Eugene— Kamouraska. 
Doucett, George H. —Lanark. 
Douglas, T. C. — Burnaby-Coquitlam. 
Drouin, Vincent- Argenteuil-Deux-Montagnes, 
Drury, Hon. Charles M. -Saint-Antoine- 

Westmount. 
Dube, Jean-Eudes— Restigouche-Madawaska. 
Dupuis, Hon. Yvon— Saint-Jean-Iberville- 

Napierville. 



^Summoned to the Senate on June 29, 1965. 



Emard, Rene— Vaudreuil-Soulanges. 
Enns, Siegfried J. -Portage-Neepawa. 
Ethier, Viateur— Glengarry-Prescott. 
Eudes, Raymond— Hochelaga. 



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LIST OF MEMBERS 



Fairweather, R. Gordon L. -Royal. 

Fane, Frank J. W. -Vegreville. 

Favreau, Hon. Guy— Papineau. 

Fisher, Douglas M. -Port Arthur. 

Fleming, Stuart A. -Okanagan-Revelstoke. 

Flemming, Hon. Hugh John— Victoria-Carleton. 

Forbes, R. Elmer- Dauphin. 

Forest, Yves— Stanstead. 

Forgie, James M. —Renfrew North. 

Foy, Walter F. -Lambton West. 

Francis, Lloyd-Carleton. 

Frenette, Jean-Louis— Portneuf. 



Jewett, Miss Pauline-Northumberland. 
Jones, Mrs. Eloise— Saskatoon. 
Jorgenson, Warner H. -Provencher. 



Kelly, Leonard P. -York West. 

Kennedy, Cyril F. -Colchester-Hants. 

Kindt, Lawrence E. — Macleod. 

Klein, Milton L. -Cartier. 

Knowles, Stanley H. -Winnipeg North Centre. 

Konantz, Mrs. Margaret-Winnipeg South. 

Korchinski, Stanley J. -Mackenzie. 



Gauthier, Charles- Arthur-Roberval. 

Gelber, Marvin-York South. 

Gendron, Rosaire-Riviere-du-Loup- 
Temiscouata. 

Girouard, Gerard-Labelle. 

Godin, Osias-J. -Nickel Belt. 

Gordon, Hon. Walter L. —Davenport. 

Grafftey, W. Heward-Brome-Missisquoi. 

Granger, Charles R. M. -Grand Falls- White Bay- 
Labrador. 

Gray, Herbert E. -Essex West. 

Greene, John James-Renfrew South. 

Gregoire, Gilles-Lapointe. 

Groos, David W. -Victoria (B. C.) 

Guay, Raynald-Levis. 

Gundlock, Deane R. -Lethbridge. 



H 



Habel, Joseph-A. -Cochrane. 

Hahn, David G. -Broadview. 

Haidasz, Stanley-Parkdale. 

Hales, Alfred D. -Wellington South. 

Hamilton, Hon. Alvin— Qu'Appelle. 

Harkness, Hon. Douglas S. -Calgary North. 

Harley, Harry C. -Halton. 

Hays, Hon. Harry W. -Calgary South. 

Hellyer, Hon. Paul T. -Trinity. 

Herridge, Herbert W. -Kootenay West. 

Honey, Russell C. -Durham. 

Horner, Albert R. -The Battlefords. 

Horner, Hugh M. — Jasper-Edson. 

Horner, John H. -Acadia. 

Howard, Frank— Skeena. 

Howe, William D. -Hamilton South. 

Howe, Wm. Marvin-Wellington-Huron. 



Irvine, Jack A. -London. 



Lachance, Georges-C— Lafontaine. 
Laing, Hon. Arthur— Vancouver South. 
LaMarsh, Hon. Judy V. —Niagara Falls. 
Lamb, Chariest-Victoria (Ont.). 
Lambert, Hon. Marcel-Edmonton West. 
Lamontagne, Hon. Maurice— Outremont-Saint- 

Jean. 
Lamoureux, Lucien— Stormont. 
Langlois, Raymond-C. -Megantic. 
Laniel, Gerald— Beauharnois-Salaberry. 
Laprise, Gerard— Chapleau. 
Latulippe, Henri— Comp ton- Frontenac. 
Laverdiere, Herman— Bellechasse. 
Leblanc, Fernand E. — Laurier. 
Leboe, Bert Raymond-Cariboo. 
Leduc, Rodolphe-Gatineau. 
Legault, Carl-Nipissing. 
Lessard, H. Pit-Saint-Henri. 
Lessard, Marcel-Lac-Saint-Jean. 
Lloyd, John E. -Halifax. 
Loiselle, Gerard— St. Ann. 
Loney, John— Bruce. 



M 



Macaluso, Joseph-Hamilton West. 
Macdonald, Donald S. -Rosedale. 
MacEachen, Hon. Allan J. -Inverness- 
Richmond. 
MacEwan, H. Russell-Pictou. 
Maclnnis, Donald-Cape Breton South. 
Mackasey, Bryce Stuart— Verdun. 
MacLean, Hon. J. Angus-Queens. 
MacNaught, Hon. J. Watson— Prince. 
Macnaughton, Hon. Alan A. -Mount Royal. 
Macquarrie, Heath-Queens. 
MacRae, J. Chester-York- Sunbury. 
Madill, J. Ellwood-Dufferin-Simcoe. 
Mandziuk, J. Nicholas-Marquette. 



'Died, July 12, 1965. 



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Marcoux, Guy— Quebec-Montmorency, 

Martin, Murdo W. — Timmins. 

Martin, Hon. Paul-Essex East. 

Martineau, Hon. Paul— Pontiac-Temiscamingue. 

Mather, Barry-New Westminster. 

Matheson, John R. —Leeds. 

Matte, Jean-Paul— Champlain. 

McBain, James A. —Elgin. 

McCutcheon, Mac T. -Lambton-Kent. 

Mcllraith, Hon. George J. -Ottawa West. 

Mcintosh, Jack-Swift Current-Maple Creek. 

McLean, Allan M. A. -Charlotte. 

McMillan, William H. -Welland. 

McNulty, James C. —Lincoln. 

McWilliam, G. Roy-Northumberland- 

Miramichi. 
Millar, Campbell E. —Middlesex East. 
Mitchell, D. Rodger-Sudbury. 
Monteith, Hon. J. Waldo-Perth. 
Moore, Harry A. -Wetaskiwin. 
More, Kenneth H. -Regina City. 
Moreau, Maurice J. -York-Scarborough. 
Morison, John B. -Wentworth. 
Muir, George R. — Lisgar. 

Muir, Robert-Cape Breton North and Victoria, 
Mullally, John-Kings. 
Munro, John C. —Hamilton East. 



N 



Nasserden, Edward-Rosthern. 

Nesbitt, Wallace B. -Oxford. 

Nicholson, Hon. John R. -Vancouver Centre. 

Nielsen, Erik-Yukon. 

Nixon, George E. -Algoma West. 

Noble, Percy V. -Grey North. 

Nowlan, Hon. George Clyde'— Digby-Annapolis- 

Kings. 
Nugent, Terence J. — Edmonton-Strathcona. 



Paul, Remi-Berthier-Maskinonge- 

Delanaudiere. 
Pearson, Rt. Hon. Lester B. -Algoma East. 
Pennell, Hon. Lawrence T.-Brant-Haldimand. 
P6pin, Hon. Jean-Luc— Drummond-Arthabaska. 
Perron, Gerard— Beauce. 
Peters, Arnold— Timiskaming. 
Pickersgill, Hon. John W. -Bonavista- 

Twillingate. 
Pigeon, Louis- Joseph- Joliette-L' Assomption- 

Montcalm. 
Pilon, Bernard— Chambly-Rouville. 
Plourde, Lucien-Quebec West. 
Prittie, Robert W. -Burnaby-Richmond. 
Prud'homme, Marcel-Saint-Denis. 
Pugh, David V. — Okanagan Boundary. 



Rapp, Reynold-Hum boldt-Melfort-Tisdale. 

Regan, Gerald A. —Halifax. 

Rheaume, Gene— Northwest Territories. 

Ricard, Hon. Theogene-Saint-Hyacinthe-Bagot. 

Richard, Jean-T. -Ottawa East. 

Rideout, Mrs. Margaret-Westmorland. 

Rinfret, Maurice— Saint-Jacques. 

Robichaud, Hon. Hedard-J. -Gloucester. 

Rochon, Jean-L. -Laval. 

Rock, Raymond-Jacques-Cartier-Lasalle. 

Rondeau, Gilbert-Shefford. 

Rouleau, Guy*— DoUard, 

Roxburgh, John M. -Norfolk. 

Ryan, S. Perry— Spadina. 

Rynard, Philip Bernard— Simcoe East. 



O'Keefe, Joseph P. -St. John's East. 
Olson, Horace A. -Medicine Hat. 
Orlikow, David-Winnipeg North. 
Ormiston, James N. —Melville. 
Otto, Steven-York East. 
Ouellet, Gerard-Rimouski. 



Pascoe, J. 
Patterson, 



Ernest— Moose Jaw-Lake Centre. 
Alexander B. —Eraser Valley. 



Saltsman, Max— Waterloo South. 

Sauve, Hon. Maurice— Iles-de-la-Madeleine. 

Scott, Reid-Danforth. 

Sharp, Hon. Mitchell-Eglinton. 

Simpson, Robert-Churchill. 

Skoreyko, William— Edmonton East. 

Slogan, Joseph B. -Springfield. 

Smallwood, Clifford S. -Battle River-Camrose. 

Smith, Heber E. -Simcoe North. 

Southam, Richard R. —Moose Mountain. 

Starr, Hon. Michael-Ontario. 

Stefanson, Eric— Selkirk. 

Stenson, Fred F. -Peterborough. 

Stewart, John B. — Antigonish-Guysborough. 



'Died, May 31, 1965. 
^Resigned, July 31, 1965. 



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LIST OF MEMBERS 



Tardiff, Paul-Russell. 
Teillet, Hon. Roger- J. -St. Boniface. 
Temple, Robert-Hastings South. 
Thomas, William H. A. -Middlesex West. 
Thompson, Robert N. -Red Deer. 
Tremblay, Hon. Rene-Matapedia-Matane. 
Tucker, James R. -Trinity-Conception. 
Turner, John N. -St. Lawrence- St. George. 



Valade, Georges-J. — Sainte-Marie. 
Vincent, Clement-Nicolet-Yamaska. 



Wadds, Mrs. Jean-Grenville-Dundas. 
Wahn, Ian Grant-St. Paul's. 
Walker, James E. -York Centre. 
Watson, lan-Chateauguay-Huntingdon- 

Laprairie. 
Watson, Lawrence— Assiniboia. 
Webb, Roderick A. -Hastings-Frontenac. 
Webster, Arnold A. — Vancouver-Kingsway. 
Weichel, Oscar W. -Waterloo North. 
Whelan, Eugene F. —Essex South. 
Willoughby, Charles J. M. -Kamloops. 
Winch, Harold E. -Vancouver East. 
Winkler, Eric A. —Grey-Bruce. 
WooUiams, Eldon M. -Bow River. 



ALPHABETICAL LIST 

OF THE 

CONSTITUENCIES OF THE HOUSE OF COMMONS 

Third Session, Twenty-sixth Parliament 



Acadia— Homer, John H. 
Algoma East-Pearson, Rt. Hon. Lester B. 
Algoma West-Nixon, George E. 
Antigonish-Guysborough-Stewart, John B. 
Argent euil-Deux-Montagnes-Drouin, Vincent. 
Assiniboia-Watson, Lawrence. 
Athabasca-Bigg, F. Jack. 



Chateauguay-Huntingdon-Laprairie— Watson, Ian. 
Chicoutimi-Cote, Maurice. 
Churchill-Simpson, Robert. 
Coast-Capilano— Davis, Jack. 
Cochrane-Habel, Joseph-A. 
Colchester-Hants-Kennedy, Cyril F. 
Comox-Alberni-Barnett, Thomas S. 
Compton-Frontenac— Latulippe, Henri. 
Cumberland-Coates, Robert C. 



B 



Battle River-Camrose-Smallwood, Clifford S. 
Beauce— Perron, Gerard. 
Beauharnois-Salaberry-Laniel, Gerald. 
Bellechasse-Laverdiere, Herman. 
Berthier-Maskinonge-Delanaudiere-Paul, 

Remi. 
Bonaventure-Bechard, Albert. 
Bonavista-Twillingate— Pickersgill, Hon. 

John W. 
Bow River-Woolliams, Eldon M. 
Brandon-Souris— Dinsdale, Hon. Walter G. 
Brantford— Brown, James E. 
Brant-Haldimand— Pennell, Hon. Lawrence T. 
Broadview— Hahn, David G. 
Brome-Missiquoi-Grafftey, W. Heward. 
Bruce-Loney, John. 
Burin-Burgeo— Carter, Chesley William. 
Burnaby-Coquitlam-Douglas, T. C. 
Burnaby-Richmond-Prittie, Robert W. 



Danforth-Scott, Reid. 
Dauphin-Forbes, R. Elmer. 
Davenport— Gordon, Hon. Walter L. 
Digby-Annapolis-Kings-Xowlan, Hon. George 

Clyde.i 
Dollard-Rouleau, Guy.^ 
Dorchester— Boutin, Pierre-Andre. 
Drummond-Arthabaska— Pepin, Hon. Jean-Luc. 
Dufferin-Simcoe-Madill, J. Ellwood. 
Durham-Honey, Russell C. 



Calgary North-Harkness, Hon. Douglas S. 
Calgary South— Hays, Hon. Harry W. 
Cape Breton North and Victoria-Muir, Robert. 
Cape Breton South-Maclnnis, Donald. 
Cariboo-Leboe, Bert Raymond. 
Carleton— Francis, Lloyd. 
Cartier-Klein, Milton L. 
Chambly-Rouville— Pilon, Bernard. 
Champlain— Matte, Jean-Paul. 
Chapleau— Laprise, Gerard. 
Charlevoix-Belanger, L. -P. -Antoine. 
Charlotte-McLean, Allan M. A. 



^Died, May 31, 1965. 
^Resigned, July 31, 1965. 



Edmonton East-Skoreyko, William. 
Edmonton-Strathcona— Nugent, Terence J. 
Edmonton West-Lambert, Hon. Marcel. 
Eglinton-Sharp, Hon. Mitchell. 
Elgin-McBain, James A. 
Esquimalt-Saanich-Chatterton, George L. 
Essex East-Martin, Hon. Paul. 
Essex South-Whelan, Eugene F. 
Essex West-Gray, Herbert E. 



Fort William— Badanai, Hubert. 

Fraser Valley-Patterson, Alexander B. 



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344 



LIST OF CONSTITUENCIES 



Gaspe-Cyr, Alexandre. 
Gatineau— Leduc, Rodolphe. 
Glengarry-Prescott— Ethier, Viateur. 
Gloucester-Robichaud, Hon. Hedard-J. 
Grand Falls-White Bay-Labrador-Granger, 

Charles R. M. 
Greenwood-Brewin, F. Andrew. 
Grenville-Dundas— Wadds, Mrs. Jean. 
Grey-Bruce— Winkler, Eric A. 
Grey North-Noble, Percy V. 



Halifax-Lloyd, John E. 

Regan, Gerald A. 
Halton-Harley, Harry C. 
Hamilton East— Munro, John C. 
Hamilton South-Howe, William D. 
Hamilton West-Macaluso, Joseph. 
Hastings-Frontenac-Webb, Roderick A. 
Hastings South-Temple, Robert. 
High Park-Cameron, Alan John Patrick. 
Hochelaga— Eudes, Raymond. 
HuU-Caron, Alexis. 

Humber-St. George's-Batten, Herman M. 
Humboldt-Melfort-Tisdale-Rapp, Reynold. 
Huron-Cardiff, L. Elston. 



Iles-de-la-Madeleine-Sauve, Hon. Maurice. 
Inverness-Richmond— MacEachen, Hon. 
Allan J. 



Jacques-Cartier-Lasalle-Rock, Raymond. 
Jasper-Edson-Horner, Hugh M. 
Joliette-L'Assomption-Montcalm— Pigeon, 
Louis-Joseph. 



Labelle-Girouard, Gerard. 
Lac-Saint-Jean— Lessard, Marcel. 
Lafontaine— Lachance, Georges-C. 
Lambton-Kent— McCutcheon, Mac T. 
Lambton West-Foy, Walter F. 
Lanark-Doucett, George H. 
Lapointe— Gregoire, Gilles. 
Laurier-Leblanc, Femand E. 
Laval-Rochon, Jean-L. 
Leeds-Matheson, John R. 
Lethbridge-Gundlock, Deane R. 
Levis— Guay, Raynald. 
Lincoln-McNulty, James C. 
Lisgar-Muir, George R. 
London— Irvine, Jack A. 
Longueuil-Cote, Jean-Pierre. 
Lotbiniere-Choquette, Auguste. 



Mackenzie— Korchinski, Stanley J. 
Macleod-Kindt, Lawrence E. 
Maisonneuve-Rosemont— Deschatelets, Hon. 

Jean-Paul. 
Marquette-Mandziuk, J. Nicholas. 
Matapedia-Matane-Tremblay, Hon. Rene. 
Meadow Lake— Cadieu, Albert C. 
Medicine Hat-Olson, Horace A. 
Megantic— Langlois, Raymond-C. 
Melville-Ormiston, James N. 
Mercier-Boulanger, Prosper. 
Middlesex East-Millar, Campbell E. 
Middlesex West-Thomas, William H. A. 
Montmagny-L'Islet— Berger, Jean. 
Moose Jaw-Lake Centre-Pascoe, J. Ernest. 
Moose Mountain— Southam, Richard R. 
Mount Royal— Macnaughton, Hon. Alan A. 



Kamloops-Willoughby, Charles J. M. 
Kamouraska-Dionne, Charles-Eugene. 
Kenora-Rainy River-Benidickson, Hon. 

William M.' 
Kent (N. B.)-Crossman, Guy. 
Kent (Ont.)-Danforth, Harold W. 
Kindersley-Cantelon, Reg W. 
Kings-MuUally, John. 
Kingston-Benson, Hon. Edgar J. 
Kootenay East-Byrne, James A. 
Kootenay West-Herridge, Herbert W. 



Nanaimo-Cowichan-The Islands-Cameron, 

Colin. 
New Westminster-Mather, Barry. 
Niagara Falls-LaMarsh, Hon. Judy V. 
Nickel Belt-Godin, Osias-J. 
Nicolet-Y am aska- Vincent, Clement. 
Nippissing— Legault, Carl. 
Norfolk-Roxburgh, John M. 
Northumberland-Jewett, Miss Pauline. 
Northumberland-Miramichi-McWilliam, G. Roy. 
Northwest Territories— Rheaume, Gene. 
Notre-Dame-de-Grace— Asselin, Edmund- T. 



'Summoned to the Senate on June 29, 1965. 



LIST OF CONSTITUENCIES 



345 



Okanagan Boundary-Pugh, David V. 
Okanagan-Revelstoke-Fleming, Stuart A. 
Ontario-Starr, Hon. Michael. 
Ottawa East-Richard, Jean-T. 
Ottawa West-Mcllraith, Hon. George J. 
Outremont-Saint-Jean-Lamontagne, Hon. 

Maurice. 
Oxford-Nesbitt, Wallace B. 



Papineau-Favreau, Hon. Guy. 

Parkdale-Haidasz, Stanley. 

Parry Sound-Muskoka-Aiken, Gordon Harvey, 

Peace River-Baldwin, Gerald W. 

Peel-Beer, Bruce S. 

Perth-Monteith, Hon. J. Waldo. 

Peterborough-Stenson, Fred F. 

Pictou— MacEwan, H. Russell. 

Pontiac-Temiscamingue-Martineau, Hon. Paul 

Portage-Neepawa— Enns, Siegfried J. 

Port Arthur-Fisher, Douglas M. 

Portneuf— Frenette, Jean-Louis. 

Prince— MacNaught, Hon. J. Watson. 

Prince Albert-Diefenbaker, Rt. Hon. John 

George. 
Prince Edward-Lennox-Alkenbrack, A. 

Douglas. 
Provencher-Jorgenson, Warner H. 



Qu'Appelle— Hamilton, Hon. Alvin. 
Quebec East— Beaule, Robert. 
Quebec-Montmorency-Marcoux, Guy. 
Quebec South— Cantin, Jean-Charles. 
Quebec West-Plourde, Lucien. 
Queens— MacLean, Hon. J. Angus. 

Macquarrie, Heath. 
Queens-Lunenburg— Grouse, Lloyd R. 



Red Deer-Thompson, Robert N. 
Regina City— More, Kenneth H. 
Renfrew North-Forgie, James M. 
Renfrew South— Greene, John James. 
Restigouche-Madawaska-Dube, Jean-Eudes. 
Richelieu-Vercheres— Cardin, Hon. Lucien. 
Richmond-Wolfe-Asselin, Patrick-T. 
Rimouski— Ouellet, Gerard. 
Riviere-du-Loup-Temiscouata-Gendron, 

Rosaire. 
Roberval— Gauthier, Charles- Arthur. 
Rosedale-Macdonald, Donald S. 



Rosetown-Biggar— Cooper, Clarence Owen. 
Rosthern— Nasserden, Edward. 
Royal-Fairweather, R. Gordon L. 
Russell-Tardiff, Paul. 



Saguenay— Blouin, Gustave. 
St. Ann— Loiselle, Gerard. 

Saint-Antoine-Westmount-Drury, Hon. Charles M. 
St. Boniface-Teillet, Hon. Roger-J. 
Saint-Denis— Prud'homme, Marcel. 
Saint-Henri-Lessard, H. Pit. 
Saint-Hyacinthe-Bagot-Ricard, Hon. Theogene. 
Saint-Jacques— Rinfret, Maurice. 
Saint-Jean-Iberville-Napierville— Dupuis, Hon. 

Yvon. 
Saint John-Albert-Bell, Thomas M. 
St. John's East-0'Keefe, Joseph P. 
St. John's West-Cashin, Richard J. 
St. Lawrence-St. George-Turner, John N. 
Sainte-Marie— Valade, Georges-J. 
Saint-Maurice-Lafleche-Chretien, Jean. 
St. Paul's-Wahn, Ian Grant. 
Saskatoon— Jones, Mrs. Eloise. 
Selkirk— Stefanson, Eric. 
Shefford-Rondeau, Gilbert. 
Shelburne-Yarmouth-Clare-Armstrong, Fred T. 
Sherbrooke— Chapdelaine, Gerard. 
Simcoe East— Rynard, Philip Bernard. 
Simcoe North— Smith, Heber E. 
Skeena— Howard, Frank. 
Spadina— Ryan, S. Perry. 
Springfield-Slogan, Joseph B. 
Stanstead-Forest, Yves. 
Stormont— Lamoureux, Lucien. 
Sudbury-Mitchell, D. Rodger. 
Swift Current-Maple Creek— Mcintosh, Jack. 



Terrebonne-Cadieux, Hon. Leo. 
The Battlefords-Horner, Albert R. 
Timiskaming— Peters, Arnold. 
Timmins— Martin, Murdo W. 
Trinity— Hellyer, Hon. Paul T. 
Trinity-Conception— Tucker, James R. 
Trois-Rivieres— Balcer, Hon. Leon. 



Vancouver-Burrard- Basford, S. Ron. 
Vancouver Centre— Nicholson, Hon. John R. 
Vancouver East-Winch, Harold E. 
Vancouver-Kingsway— Webster, Arnold A. 
Vancouver Quadra— Deachman, Grant. 
Vancouver South — Laing, Hon. Arthur. 



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LIST OF CONSTITUENCIES 



Vaudreuil-Soulanges— Emard, Rene. 
Vegreville— Fane, Frank J. W. 
Verdun— Mackasey, Bryce Stuart. 
Victoria (B. C.)-Groos, David W. 
Victoria (Ont.)-Lamb, Charles.* 
Victoria-Carleton-Flemming, Hon. Hugh John. 
Villeneuve-Caouette, Real. 



Wetaskiwin— Moore, Harry A. 

Winnipeg North-Orlikow, David. 

Winnipeg North Centre— Knowles, Stanley H. 

Winnipeg South-Konantz, Mrs, Margaret. 

Winnipeg South Centre-Churchill, Hon. Gordon. 



Waterloo North-Weichel, Oscar W. 
Waterloo South-Saltsman, Max. 
Welland-McMillan, William H. 
Wellington-Huron-Howe, Wm. Marvin. 
Wellington South-Hales, Alfred D. 
Wentworth-Morison, John B. 
Westmorland-Rideout, Mrs, Margaret. 



York Centre-Walker, James E. 
York East-Otto, Steven. 
York-Humber-Cowan, Ralph B. 
York North-Addison, John H. 
York-Scarborough— Moreau, Maurice J. 
York South-Gelber, Marvin. 
York-Sunbury-MacRae, J. Chester. 
York West-Kelly, Leonard P. 
Yorkton— Clancy, Gordon Drummond. 
Yukon— Nielsen, Erik. 



*Died, July 12, 1965. 



INDEX 

TO THE 

JOURNALS 

OF THE 

HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA 



From Monday, April 5, 1965, to 
Wednesday, June 30, 1965, inclusive, 
in the Fourteenth Year of the Reign of 

OUR SOVEREIGN LADY, 
QUEEN ELIZABETH THE SECOND 



1965 
Third Session, Twenty-Sixth ParHament 



Volume CXII One Hundred and Twelfth Volume 



347 

22622—23 



INDEX 349 



ARDA: 

See Agricultural Rehabilitation and Development Act. 

Abandoned Railways: 

See Railway Act amendment. 

Address in Reply, Debate on: 

Speech reported by Mr. Speaker, 2. Motion (Mr. Pearson),— To give consideration to Speech later 
this day, 6. Address in Reply moved and debate adjourned, 7. Debate resumed (1st appointed 
day); amendment (Mr. Diefenbaker), -Regret confusion and indecision in dealing with national 
problems, inaction in eradicating wrongdoing in places under federal responsibility and restoring 
confidence in government integrity: moved, 11-2. Subamendment (Mr. Douglas),— Failure to pre- 
sent specific proposals for a universal and comprehensive medicare program: moved and debate 
interrupted, 12. Debate resumed (2nd appointed day); subamendment negatived on recorded divi- 
sion, 14-5. Debate resumed (3rd appointed day); subamendment (Mr. Marcoux),— Failure to use 
Bank of Canada facilities to increase family allowances, lighten public debt, improve living 
standards, finance training of staff to deal with medicare: moved and debate interrupted, 24-5. 
Debate resumed (4th appointed day), 27; subamendment negatived on division, 28; amendment 
negatived on recorded division, 28-9. Debate resumed (5th appointed day); amendment (Mr. 
Rondeau),— Failure to adjust family allowances to cost of living: moved and ruled out of order, 
appealed and sustained on recorded division, 33-5. Debate resumed, House reverted to "Motions" 
and ordered change in sitting hours until Address is concluded on sixth appointed day, 35. 
Debate resumed; amendment (Mr. Plourde), -Failure to provide Income Tax exemptions of $2500 
single and $5000 married: moved and negatived on recorded division, 35-6. Debate resumed and 
interrupted, 36-7. Debate resumed (6th and final appointed day by Special Order) and interrupted, 
39. Debate resumed, 41. Main motion agreed to, 41. Motion for engrossing and presenting to 
Governor General, 41. (Letter of acknowledgment not received.) 

Address to the Queen regarding BNA Act (Quebec Legislative Council): 
See British North America Act amendment. 

Adjournment Motion Proceedings Under Provisional S.O. 39-A: 

Motion,- "That this House do now adjourn" was deemed to have been proposed, after debate, 
deemed to have been adopted, 12, 25, 38, 50, 60, 69, 71, 95, 134, 157, 173, 189, 203, 211, 218, 
246, 250, 270, 285, 293, 314. 

See also Procedure. 

Adjournment to Discuss Matter of Urgent Public Importance: 

By Mr. Doucett: Drought conditions in Quebec and Ontario: moved,— That the House do now adjourn, 
debate interrupted, 296-7. 

Adjournments, Special: 

1. Motion, without notice or debate (on Opening Day),-To adjourn House until 2.30 p.m., Tuesday, 
Apr. 6, 10. 

2. Motion,— That when House adjourns Tuesday, Apr. 13, it shall stand adjourned until Monday, 
Apr. 26, 1965 (Easter recess), 41. 

3. Motion,— To adjourn House until Tuesday, June 1, 1965, at 2.30 p.m. (death of Hon. George C. 
Nowlan), 165. 

4. Motion, -That when House adjourns Wednesday, June 30, it shall stand adjourned until Monday, 
Sept. 27, 1965 (summer recess), subject to recall earlier by Mr. Speaker or Mr. Deputy Speaker, 
after debate, agreed to, 329. 

See also Sittings of the House. 

Advertising (Birth Control): 

See Criminal Code amendment. 

Advertising (Small Loans Rates): 

See Small Loans Act amendment. 

22622—234 



350 INDEX 

Advertising (Tobacco): 

See Tobacco Restraint Act. 

Aeronautics Act amendment: 

Resolution,— To establish boards of inquiry and provide for payment of expenses of witnesses, 
provide for membership of Air Transport Board and their retirement, etc.: House to consider in 
Committee of the Whole at next sitting, 310. 

Aetna Casualty Company of Canada: 

Petition (late) received for an Act to incorporate in English and French version of name, and for 
other purposes (Aetna Casualty and Surety Company of Canada), 319-20. Bill S-18, Mr. Cameron 
(High Park). Received from Senate, 1st R., 322. 

Affirmation of Allegiance: 

See Canadian Citizenship Act amendment; Oaths of Allegiance Act amendment. 

Age Discrimination (Employment Practices): 

See Canada Fair Employment Practices Act amendment. 

Age of Marriage: 

See Marriage Act. 

Agreements, Protocols, Exchange of Notes, Treaties, etc.: 

1. Cultural Exchanges: Order,— Draft agreement between provinces and foreign countries submitted 
to Director of Cultural Affairs for France: Mr. Martineau; moved, and question being proposed, 
ordered transferred to the order of "Notices of Motions (Papers)", 177. 

2. Viet Nam: Exchange of Messages dated Apr. 2, 1965, from Rt. Hon. Micheal Stewart, British Co- 
Chairman to 1954 Geneva Conference on Indo-China and External Affairs Minister, 64. Sess. Pa- 
per No. 190A. 

Agricultural Employees Unemployment Insurance Coverage: 
See Unemployment Insurance Act amendment. 

Agricultural Rehabilitation and Development Act: 

1. Order,- Return showing Quebec projects, amounts: Mr. Laprise— presented forthwith, 244. Sess. 
Paper No. 6A. 

2. Order,— Return re projects benefiting fisherman, cost, federal share, provincial share, approval 
date, details: Mr. Howard-presented forthwith, 311. Sess. Paper No. 6B. 

Agricultural Stabilization Act amendment: 

Bill C-22, Mr. Rapp (Hog and Egg Prices). 1st R., 20. 

Agriculture Department: 

1. Return to Address, dated Mar. 10, 1965, for correspondence, etc., since Oct. 1, 1964, with 
Quebec Agriculture Department re assistance to farmers in Abitibi, Temiscamingueand Saguenay- 
Lake St. John regions, 90. Sess. Paper No. 3A. 

2. Order,-Letter dated Sept. 9, 1964, by Quebec Agriculture Minister to federal Agriculture Minister 
re farm assistance program: Mr. Laprise, 324. 

Agriculture, Forestry and Rural Development Committee: 

Membership, 322. 

Air Canada: 

1. Telegrams between Prime Minister and Manitoba Premier re transfer of personnel from Winnipeg 
maintenance base to Montreal, 63. Sess. Paper No. 179A. (Printed as appendix to Hansard of 
Apr. 30, 1965). 

2. Statement dated June 23, 1965, by Transport Minister re service between Canada-West Indies, 
Guadeloupe, 295. Sess. Paper No. 235. 



INDEX 351 



Air Pollution: 

1. Preventive equipment, considering tax concessions: motion (Mr. Hahn) moved and debate inter- 
rupted, 150. 

2. Order, -Return showing findings of research into transportation, industrial and nuclear fallout, 
cost, etc.: Mr. Howe (Wellington-Huron)-presented forthwith, 176. Sess. Paper No. 221. 

Air Transport Board: 

1. Order No. 4222 dated May 6, 1965, re charter tariff No. 5 of Autair Helicopter Services Ltd., 
128. Sess. Paper No. 214. 

2. Order No. 4245 dated June 1, 1965, together with copy ot judgement dated June 9, 1965, and 
notice of appeal by President of Autair Helicopter Services Ltd., 217. Sess. Paper No. 214A. 

3. Order, -Copy of Ordinance No. 4344 re application of Okanagan Helicopters Ltd.: Mr. Martineau, 
177. Presented, 271. Sess. Paper No. 230. 

See also Aeronautics Act amendment. 

Aircraft-Accidents Boards of Inquiry: 
See Aeronautics Act amendment. 

Airports: 

1. Press release re operating conditions at Halifax International Airport, 147. Sess. Paper No. 217. 

2. Vancouver, B.C., bridge or tunnel to international airport: motion (Mr. Prittie) moved and debate 
interrupted, 254. 

3. Order, -Returns re tenders received by Crown Assets Disposal Corporation for Parts 1 and 2 
of former Buttress Airport, tenderers, prices, successful bidder: Mr. Watson (Assiniboia)-presented 
forthwith, 126. Sess. Paper Nos. 212, 212A. 

Alaska Highway: 

See Alaska-Yukon Highway Authority Act. 

Alaska-Yukon Highway Authority Act: 

Bill C-106, Mr. Thompson. 1st R., 121. 

Algoma Central and Hudson Bay Railway Company: 
See Algoma Central Railway. 

Algoma Central Railway: 

Petition received for an Act to change name from Algoma Central and Hudson Bay Railway Company 
to Algoma Central Railway, and for other purposes, 42. Reported by Examiner of Petitions, 80. 
Bill S-4, Mr. Nixon. Received from Senate, 1st R., 131. 2nd R after debate, referred to Transport 
and Communications Committee, 170. Reported without amendment, 315. Considered in Committee 
of the Whole, reported without amendment, 3rd R., 317. R.A., 330. 14 Elizabeth II, Chapter 22, 
S.C. 1965. 

Amendments: 

Address Debate: 

1. Amendment (1st and 4th appointed days) by Mr. Diefenbaker (Opposition Leader) to add: Regret 
confusion and indecision in dealing with national problems, inaction in eradicating wrongdoing 
in places under federal responsibility and restoring confidence in government integrity, moved, 
12; negatived on recorded division, 28-9. 

2. Subamendment (1st and 2nd appointed days) by Mr. Douglas (Burnaby-Coquitlam) to insert: Failure 
to present specific proposals for a universal and comprehensive medicare program, moved, 12; 
negatived on recorded division, 14-5. 

3. Subamendment (3rd & 4th appointed days) by Mr. Marcoux(Quebec-Montmorency)to insert: Failure 
to use Bank of Canada facilities to increase family allowances, lighten public debt, improve 
living standards, finance training of staff to deal with medicare, moved, 25; negatived on divi- 
sion, 28. 

4. Amendment (5th appointed day) by Mr. Rondeau (Shefford) to add: Failure to adjust family allow- 
ances according to cost of living, moved, 34. Ruling, that amendment was out of order, appealed 
to House and sustained on recorded division, 34-5. 

5. Amendment (5th appointed day) by Mr. Plourde (Quebec West) to add: Failure to provide Income 
Tax exemptions of $2500 single and $5000 married, moved, 35; negatived on recorded division, 
36. 



352 INDEX 

Amendments - (Continued) 

Bills, Government; Second Reading: 

6. Senators Retirement (Bill C-98): To defer, that House is of the opinion the Senate should be 
abolished, moved, 85. Ruling, that amendment was out of order, appealed to House and sustained 
on recorded division, 85-6. 

7. Senators Retirement (Bill C-98): To supersede second reading by "six months' hoist", moved 
and debate interrupted, 111-2. Debate resumed, amendment negatived on recorded division, 116-7. 

8. Indian Claims (Bill C- 123): To defer and consider new legislation broadening terms of reference 
of claims commission and appointing non-Canadian jurist as presiding officer over appeal court, 
moved and negatived on recorded division, 288-9. 

Bills, Government; Committee of the Whole: 

9. Income Tax Act (Bill C- 118): To deletesub-^aragraph (2) from section 12-A and renumber succeed- 
ing sub-paragraphs-appealed to Mr. Deputy Speaker pursuant to provisional S.O. 59(4) and re- 
ported to House, Chairman's Ruling that amendment was out of order was confirmed by Mr. 
Deputy Speaker, 303-4. 

Bills, Government; Third Reading: 

10. Senators Retirement (Bill C-98): To defer third reading and recommit to Committee of the Whole 
to add that Act shall come into force upon return of writs at next general election, moved, 
debated, negatived on recorded division, 122-3. 

11. Income Tax Act (Bill C-118): To defer third reading and recommit to Committee of the Whole to 
reconsider clause 4, moved and debate adjourned on motion, 304. Debate resumed, amendment 
negatived on recorded division, 312-3. 

Bills, Private; Second Reading: 

12. Laurentide Bank of Canada (Bill C-95): To supersede second reading by "six months' hoist", 
moved and debate interrupted, 123. Debate resumed and interrupted, 154, 218. Debate resumed, 
amendment negatived, 289-90. 

13. Bank of Western Canada (Bill C-99): To supersede second reading by "six months' hoist", 
moved and debate interrupted, 143. Debate resumed and interrupted, 170, 250. Debate resumed, 
amendment negatived, 290. 

Budget Debate: 

14. Amendment (1st and 4th appointed days) by Mr. Nowlan (Digby-Annapolis-Kings) to substitute: 
Regrets government has failed to abolish sales tax on production machinery, to reduce income 
tax on lower income groups and to increase old age assistance, moved, 56; negatived on recorded 
division, 68-9. 

15. Subamendment (1st and 2nd appointed days) by Mr. Cameron (Nanaimo-Cowichan-The Islands) 
to insert: To raise income tax exemptions to $1500 single and $3000 married and to grant old 
age pension of $100, moved, 56; negatived on recorded division, 59-60. 

Government Motions: 

16. Amendment to motion amending the Standing Orders by deleting supplementary estimates and 
supply motions from business of supply: moved and debate interrupted, 134. Debate resumed and 
interrupted, 137-9, 141-5, 148-9, 152-3. Debate resumed, amendment withdrawn, 154-5. 

17. Subamendment to motion amending the Standing Orders by adding: Further supplementary esti- 
mates, dollar items, etc.: moved and debate interrupted, 134. Debate resumed and interrupted, 
137-9, 141-5, 148-9, 152-3. Debate resumed, subamendment withdrawn, 154-5. 

18. Amendment to motion amendingthe Standing Orders by substituting: Allotted time of 30 days for 
business of supply excepting supplementaries introduced after main estimates or final supple- 
mentaries, supply motions to be reduced from 6 to 4, membership of Special Committee to be 
raised to 24; S.O. 15-A be amended by adding section (7), time limit of 5 days for bill, prece- 
dence, etc., extension of adjournment hour until party representatives speak, and section (8), 
two additional days for amendment requiring particular discussion; changes to be effective until 
end of next ensuing session: moved and agreed to, 155-6. 

19. Amendment to motion amending the Standing Orders by adding: That proposals shall not become 
effective until permanent Speaker appointed: moved and ruled out of order, 156-7. 

20. Amendment to motion amendingthe Standing Orders by inserting: In the event of an Order of the 
House being made for the allocation of time, no Member except the Prime Minister, Leader of 
any recognized party. Minister moving a Government Order, and the Member speaking immediately 
after, shall speak for more than 20 minutes and no Member shall speak for more than 40 minutes: 



INDEX 353 



Amendments - (Concluded) 

Government Motions - (Concluded) 

moved and debate interrupted, 157. Debate resumed and interrupted, 167-73, 178-80, 183-6. 
Debate resumed, amendment withdrawn, 187-9. 

21. Subamendment to motion amending the Standing Orders by striking out certain words and sub- 
stituting: The Leader of the Opposition, Minister moving a Government Order, and the Member 
speaking immediately after, shall speak for more than 20 minutes: moved and debate interrupted, 
169. Debate resumed and interrupted, 170-3, 178-80. Debate resumed, subamendment negatived 
on recorded division, 183-6. 

22. Amendment to motion amending the Standing Orders by defining allocation of time: moved and 
debate interrupted, 189. Debate resumed, amendment agreed to on recorded division, 191-4. 

23. Amendment to motion amending the Standing Orders by basing allocation of time on 60% of vote: 
moved and debate interrupted, 194. Debate resumed and interrupted, 199-203, 205-7. Debate re- 
sumed, amendment withdrawn, 208-10. 

Supply Debate: 

24. Amendment, on Supply Order No. 1, moved by Mr. Douglas (Burnaby-Coquitlara) on 1st appointed 
day, that, House regrets when government entered into Canada-U.S. automotive agreement it 
failed to safeguard interests of Canadian consumers, workers and small parts manufacturers, 90; 
negatived on recorded division on 2nd appointed day, 92-3. 

Annuities Act: 

See Government Annuities Act. 

Antennas, Community: 
See Television. 

Anthem, National: 

See National Anthem Act. 

Appeals to the House from Rulings: 

See Divisions, Recorded; Speaker's Rulings, etc. 

Appendices to the Votes and Proceedings: 

1. Budget Papers, Apr. 12, 1965. 

2. Budget Resolutions, based on 1965-66 Budget, Apr. 26, 1965 (Notice Paper). 

3. Press Release dated Apr. 23, 1965 by External Affairs Minister entitled "The Provinces and 
Treaty-Making Powers", Apr. 26, 1965. 

4. Report dated April 1965 by Denis Smith entitled "The Speakership of the Canadian House of 
Commons: Some Proposals", June 2, 1965. 

5. Provisional Orders adopted by the House June 8 and 11, 1965, June 11, 1965. Reprinted in cor- 
rected form, June 14, 1965. 

6. Japanese letter and Annex re voluntary controls on export of certain products to Canada for 1965, 
June 25, 1965. 

Appropriation Bills: 
See Supply Bills. 

Area Development Incentives Act: 

Resolution,— To improve industrial employment opportunities in designated areas through provision 
of development grants to assist in the establishment or expansion of manufacturing or processing 
facilities, and to effect certain related amendments to the Income Tax Act: House to consider 
in Committee of the Whole later this day or at next sitting, 309-10. Considered in Committee of 
the Whole, 317, 318. Resolution adopted, on division, 318-9. Bill C-129, Minister of Industry, 
1st R., 319. 2nd R after debate, considered in Committee of the Whole, reported without amend- 
ment, 3rd R., 328. Passed by Senate, 329. R.A., 331. 14 Elizabeth II, Chapter 12, S.C. 1965. 

Armed Forces: 

See Elections; National Defence Department; National Training Service. 

Armed Forces Superannuation: 

See Canadian Forces Superannuation Act. 



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Army Benevolent Fund Act amendment: 

Resolution,— To increase interest rate payable on minimum balance to the credit of the fund in each 
month at 4%% per annum, etc.: House to consider in Committee of the Whole at next sitting, 
281-2. Considered in Committee of the WTiole, resolution adopted, 291-2. Bill C-126, Minister of 
Veterans Affairs, 1st R., 292. 2nd R after debate, considered in Committee of the Whole, re- 
ported without amendment, 3rd R., 304. Passed by Senate, 326. R.A., 330. 14 Elizabeth II, Chap- 
ter 13, S.C. 1%5. 



Army Benevolent Fund Board: 

1. Report for 1964-65, with auditor's report, 314. Sess. Paper No. 183. 

2. Statement dated Apr. 29, 1965, by J. Guy Gauvreau, National Chairman, re allegations concerning 
operation of fund, 71. Sess. Paper No. 183A. (Printed as appendix to Hansard of May, 4, 1965). 

Arthabaska, Que., mail delivery: 
See Post Office Department. 

Atlantic Development Board: 

Report on activities for 1964-65, with auditor's report, 333. Sess. Paper No. 160. 

Atlantic Provinces: 

Statement by Transport Minister on Atlantic Provinces transportation studies, 205. Sess. Paper 
No. 223. 



Atlantic Provinces Industrial Development: 

See Industrial Development Bank Act, 1963. 

Atomic Energy Control Board of Canada: 

Report for 1964-65, 331. Sess. Paper No. 20. Printed. 

Atomic Energy of Canada Limited: 

Report for 1964-65, with auditor's report, 331. Sess. Paper No. 21. Printed. 
See also Crown Corporations Bilingual Names Act. 

Atomic Radiation: 

See Air Pollution. 

Autair Helicopter Services Ltd.: 
See Air Transport Board, 

Automotive Industry: 

1. Letters dated Jan. 13 and 14, 1965, to Industry Minister from Chrysler, Ford and General Motors 
re Canada-U.S. agreement, 45. Sess. Paper No. 193. 

2. Letter dated Mar. 31, 1965, by Labour Minister to President and General Manager, General 
Motors of Canada Ltd., 91. Sess. Paper No. 193A. 

3. Address, -Correspondence, etc., since Jan. 1, 1964, between Canada and United States re auto- 
motive agreement: Mr. Hales; moved, and question being proposed, the Minister of Industry- stated 
that he desired a debate on the motion, and objection having been taken to the transferring of 
the motion, the Chair ruled that it was bound byS.O. 47, which ruling was appealed and sustain- 
ed on recorded division, 74-5. Ordered transferred to the order of "Notices of Motions (Papers)", 
75. Moved, and debate interrupted, 133. 

4. Order, -Correspondence since Jan. 1, 1960, with automobile industry re minimum safety stand- 
ards: Mr. Grafftey, 253. 

Awards and Decorations: 
See Canada Medal Act. 



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Bonk Act: 

Resolution,— To provide for the decennial revision of the Bank Act, extension of charters until July 
1, 1975, and for certain changes in administration of Act: House to consider in Committee of 
the Whole at next sitting, 32. Considered in Committee of the Whole, resolution adopted, on 
division, 83. Bill C-102, Minister of Finance, 1st R., 83. 2nd R after debate, 123, 245-6, referred 
to Finance, Trade and Economic Affairs Committee, 246. 

See also Bank Act and Quebec Savings Banks Act amendment. 

Bank Act and Quebec Savings Banks Act amendment: 

Resolution, -To extend to Dec. 31, 1965, the authority to carry on business for banks to which Acts 
apply: House to consider in Committee of the Whole at next sitting, 217. Considered in Commit- 
tee of the Whole, resolution adopted, 246. Bill C-116, Minister of Finance, 1st R, 2nd R, con- 
sidered in Committee of the Whole, reported without amendment, 3rd R., 246. Passed by Senate, 
297. R.A., 298. 14 Elizabeth II, Chapter 7, S.C. 1965. 

Bank Notes (Form and Material): 

See Bank of Canada Act amendment. 

Bank of British Columbia: 

Petition received for an Act to incorporate under English and French version of name, 181. Reported 
by Examiner of Petitions, 195. 

Bank of Canada: 

Order,-Correspondence, etc., since Jan. 1, 1960, between Governor and Finance Minister re monetary 
policy: Mr. Rondeau; moved, and question being proposed, ordered transferred to the order of 
"Notices of Motions (Papers)", 127. 

Bonk of Canada Act amendment: 

1. Bill C-9, Mr. Cote (Chicoutimi)(Form and Material of Notes). 1st R., 20. 2nd R moved and debate 
interrupted, 290. 

2. Bill C-25, Mr. Cote (Chicoutimi) (Reserves). 1st R., 21. 

3. Bill C-101, Minister of Finance (Government Direction of Monetary Policy, Cash Reserves, 
etc.). 1st R., 83. 2nd R after debate, 108, 111, referred to Finance, Trade and Economic Affairs 
Committee, 111. 

Bank of Western Canada: 

Petition received for an Act to incorporate under English and French versions of name, and for 
other purposes, 43. Reported by Examiner of Petitions, 51. Bill C-99, Mrs. Konantz. Tabled, 
1st R., 53. 2nd R moved and debate interrupted, 107. Debate resumed; amendment (Mr. Laprise),- 
"This day six months hence": moved and debate interrupted, 143. Debate resumed and inter- 
rupted, 170, 250. Debate resumed, amendment negatived, 290. 2nd R after debate, referred to 
Finance, Trade and Economic Affairs Committee, 290. 

Bank Reports: 

See Quebec Savings Banks Act. 

Bonkruptcies: 

Order, -Correspondence, documents, etc., for dates indicated re Quebec case of A.G. Heakes: Mr. 
Rondeau; moved, and question being proposed, ordered transferred to the order of "Notices of 
Motions (Papers)", 76-7. 

Bankruptcy Act amendment: 

1. Bill C-49, Mr. Orlikow (Wage Earners' Assignments). 1st R., 22. 

2. Bill C-63, Mr. Smith (Orderly Payment of Debts). 1st R., 23. 

Batten, Herman Maxwell, Esq., M.P.: 

Appointed Deputy Chairman of Committees of the Whole House, 7. 

Belec, Chief Superintendent R.J.: 

See Royal Canadian Mounted Police. 

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356 INDEX 

Bilingual ism: 

See Crown Corporations Bilingual Names Act; Government Departments; Royal Commissions. 

Bills of Exchange Act amendment: 

Bill C-113, Mr. Peters (Instalment Purchases). 1st R., 183. 

Bills of Exchange Act and Interest Act amendment: 

Bill C-62, Mr. Orlikow (Off-store Instalment Sales). 1st R., 22. 

Bills, Private, and Petitions: 

See also titles of particular bills; note below; Procedure. (For numerical list by Bill Nos.,see Bills, 
Private in Index to Debates). 

1. Aetna Casualty Company of Canada (Bill S-18)-A/r. Cameron (High Park)-(died on Order Paper). 

2. Algoma Central and Hudson Bay Railway Company (Bill S-4)-Wr. yVixon-(enacted as Chap. 22, 
S.C. 1965). 

3. Bank of British Columbia— Petition— A/r. Leboe (Bill S-13 presented in Senate only). 

4. Bankof Western Canada (Bill C-99)-A/rs. /Conanfz-(died in Finance, Trade and Economic Affairs 
Committee), 

Cambrian Mortgage Corporation: See Muttart Mortgage Corporation. 

5. Canadian Institute of Mining and Metallurgy (Bill S-12)-A/r. A/oreau-(enacted as Chap. 24, S.C. 
1965). 

Century Insurance Company of Canada: See Pacific Coast Fire Insurance Company. 

6. Evangelistic Tabernacle Incorporated (Bill S-ll)-A/r. Stefanson-(died in Miscellaneous Private 
Bills Committee). 

7. General Mortgage Service Corporation of Canada— Petition— Wr. Cameron (High Park) (Bill S-17 
presented in Senate only). 

8. Great Northern Railway Company and Great Northern Pacific & Burlington Lines, Inc. (Bill S-5) 
-Mr. lVa/in-(en acted as Chap. 23, S.C. 1965). 

9. Interprovincial Pipe Line Company (Bill S-7)—Mr. W'a/jn— (considered and reported by Transport 
and Communications Committee; died on Order Paper). 

10. Laurentide Bank of Canada (Bill C-95)-Mr. Basford-(died in Finance, Trade and Economic Af- 
fairs Committee). 

11. Muttart Mortgage Corporation (Bill S-6)— A/r. Wahn— (died in Finance, Trade and Economic Affairs 
Committee). 

12. Pacific Coast Fire Insurance Company (Bill S-14)— A/r. 5as/orcf— (died in Finance, Trade and Eco- 
nomic Affairs Committee). 

13. Presbyterian Church in Canada, The Trustee Board of The (Bill S-10)-A/r. Cameron (High Park)- 
(died in Miscellaneous Private Bills Committee). 

14. Principal Life Insurance Company of Canada (Bill S-9)—Mr. Lambert— (enacted as Chap. 21, S.C. 
1965). 

15. United Baptist Woman's Missionary Union of the Maritime Provinces— Petition-A/r. Coates (Bill 
S-16 presented in Senate only). 



INDEX 357 

Bills, Public (Government and Private Members): 

See also titles of particular bills; note below; Procedure; and Speaker's Rulings and Statements. 
(For numerical list by Bill Nos., see Bills, Public in Index to Debates). 

1. Agricultural Stabilization Act amendment (Hog and Egg Prices) (Bill C-22)-Mt. /?app-(died on 
Order Paper). 

2. Alaska-Yukon HiRhway Authority Act (Bill C-106)-A/r. r/jompson-(died on Order Paper). 
Appropriation Bills: See Supply under this heading. 

3. Area Development Incentives Act (Bill C-129)-r/ie Minister of Industry-(hased on resolution; 
enacted as Chap. 12, S.C. 1965). 

4. Army Benevolent Fund Act amendment(Bill C-126)— The Minister of Veterans Affairs— (based on 
resolution; enacted as Chap. 13, S.C. 1965). 

5. Bank Act (Decennial Revision) (Bill C-102)— The Minister of F inance— (preceded by resolution; 
died in Finance, Trade and Economic Affairs Committee). 

6. Bank Act and Quebec Savings Banks Act amendment (Bill C-116)— The Minister of Finance— 
(based on resolution; enacted as Chap. 7, S.C. 1965). 

7. Bank of Canada Act amendment (Form and Material of Notes) (Bill C-9)—Mr. Cofe (Chicoutimi)— 
(Order for Resuming Debate on 2nd R died on Order Paper). 

8. Bank of Canada Act amendment(Government Direction of Monetary Policy, Cash Reserves, etc.) 
(Bill C- 101)— r/jeiWm/sfer o/F/nance— (died in Finance, Trade and Economic Affairs Committee), 

9. Bank of Canada Act amendment (Reserves) (Bill C-25)—Mr. Cote (Chicoutimi)— (died on Order 
Paper). 

10. Bankruptcy Act amendment (Orderly Payment of Debts) (Bill C-63)-A/r. Smith-(died on Order 
Paper). 

11. Bankruptcy Act amendment (Wage Earners' Assignments) (Bill C-49)—Wr. Orlikow— (died on Order 
Paper). 

12. Bills of Exchange Act amendment (Instalment Purchases) (Bill C-113)— A/r. Pe?ers-(died on 
Order Paper). 

13. Bills of Exchange Act and Interest Act amendment (Off-store Instalment Sales) (Bill C-62)- 
Mr. Orlikow-(died on Order Paper). 

14. British North America Act, 1867, amendment (Re; Royal Assent, Reservation and Disallowance) 
(Bill C-85)-iV/r. C/iogue»e-(died on Order Paper). 

15. British North America Act, 1867 to 1964, amendment (Re: Abolition of the Senate) (Bill C-54)- 
Mr. Knowles— (died on Order Paper). 

16. British North America Act, 1867 to 1964, amendment (Re: Duration of House of Commons) (Bill 
C-107)-A/r. Perers-(died on Order Paper). 

17. British North America Act, 1867 to 1964, amendment (Re: House of Commons, Quorum) (Bill C-94)- 
Mr. Knowles— (died on Order Paper). 

18. British North America Act, 1867 to 1964, amendment (Re: Provincial Marriage and Divorce Laws) 
(Bill C-68)-A/r. Pnttie-(died on Order Paper). 

19. Broadcasting Act amendment (Community Antenna) (Bill C-40)— A/r. Fisher-(died on Order Paper). 

20. Broadcasting Act amendment (Disclosure of CBC Service Programme, Cost, and Estimates for 
5 years) (Bill C-86)-:Wr. Fis/jer-(died on Order Paper). 

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358 INDEX 

Bills, Public (Government and Private Members) -(Continued) 

21. Broadcasting Act amendment (Political Programs) (Bill C-S2)— Mr. Harley-(died on Order Paper). 

22. Broadcasting Act amendment (Radio-Canada) (Bill C-28)-A/r. C/2rerien-(died on Order Paper). 

23. Canada Day Act (Bill C-6)-A/r. C/3refien-(0rder for Resuming Debate on 2nd R died on Order 
Paper). 

24. Canada Disaster Fund Act (Bill C-17)-Mr. Herridge-(died on Order Paper). 

25. Canada Divorce Act (Re: Annulment and Dissolution of Marriage) (Bill C-114)— A/r. Pefers— (died 
on Order Paper). 

26. Canada Elections Act amendment (Appointment of DRO's and Poll Clerks) (Bill C-70)-Mr. 
Francis— (died on Order Paper). 

27. Canada Elections Act amendment (Political Affiliations of Candidates on Ballot Papers) (Bill 
C-105)-A/r. Pa«erson-(died on Order Paper). 

28. Canada Evidence Act amendment (Privileged Communications) (Bill C-29)—Mr. Matheson— (died 
on Order Paper). 

29. Canada Fair Employment Practices Act amendment (Age Discrimination) (Bill C-41)—Mr. Mather— 
(died on Order Paper). 

30. Canada Grain Act amendment (Off-track Elevator Licensing) (Bill C-50)— A/r. 0/son-(died on 
Order Paper). 

31. Canada Labour (Standards) Code Act amendment (Increase in Minimum Hourly Wage) (Bill C-79)- 
Mt. Knowles— (died on Order Paper). 

32. Canada Labour (Standards) Code Act amendment (Severence Pay) (Bill C-60)—Mr. Fisher— (died 
on Order Paper). 

33. Canada Labour (Standards) Code Act amendment (Three Weeks Vacation) (Bill C-81)-Mr. Knowles- 
(died on Order Paper). 

34. Canada Medal Act (Bill C-92)-A/r. Le6/anc-(died on Order Paper). 

35. Canada's National Game Act (Lacrosse) (Bill C-3)-A/r. Prittie-(OTder for Resuming Debate on 
2nd R died on Order Paper). 

36. Canadian Citizenship Act amendment (Freedom of Conscience) (Bill C-8)— A/r. F/s/?er-(died on 
Order Paper). 

37. Canadian National Railway Company (Froomfield Spur, Samia) (Bill C- 124)— The Minister of 
Trans port-(hased on resolution; enacted as Chap. 14, S.C. 1965). 

38. Central Mortgage and Housing Corporation Act amendment (Bill S-8)— The Minister of Citizenship 
and Immigration-(oTiginated in Senate; enacted as Chap. 8, S.C. 1965). 

39. Children of War Dead (Education Assistance) Act amendment (Bill C-125)-The Minister of Vet- 
erans Affairs-(hased on resolution; enacted as Chap. 15, S.C. 1965). 

40. Collateral Bills and Notes Act (Bill C-10)-A/r. Pyan-(Order for Resuming Debate on 2nd R died 
on Order Paper). 

41. Combines Investigation Act amendment (Captive Sales Financing) (Bill C-37)— Mr. Noble— (died 
on Order Paper). 



INDEX 359 

Bills, Public (Government and Private Members) - (Continued) 

42. Combines Investigation Act amendment (Consent Decree) (Bill C-56)— A/r. Ge/6er-(died on Order 
Paper). 

43. Combines Investigation Act amendment (Floor Penalties, Criminal Joint Tortfeasors, and Moieties) 
(Bill C-67)-Mr. Orlikow-(died on Order Paper). 

44. Commonwealth Day Act (Bill C-93)-Mr. Rynard-(died on Order Paper). 

45. Criminal Code amendment (Abolition of Capital Punishment) (Bill C-lll)— Mr. Temple— (died on 
Order Paper). 

46. Criminal Code amendment (Birth Control Advertising) (Bill C-36)-Mr. Prittie-(died on Order 
Paper). 

47. Criminal Code amendment (Commutation of Death Sentence) (Bill C-46)— A/r. Temple— (died on 
Order Paper). 

48. Criminal Code amendment (Company-censored Housing) (Bill C-45)—Mr. Orlikow-(died on Order 
Paper). 

49. Criminal Code amendment (Contempt of Court) (Bill C-59)—Mr. Cowan— (died on Order Paper). 

50. Criminal Code amendment (Disturbing the Public Peace) (Bill C-16)-iV/r. Ge/6er— (died on Order 
Paper). 

51. Criminal Code amendment (Family Planning) (Bill C-88)— A/r. Francis— (died on Order Paper), 

52. Criminal Code amendment (Group Defamatory Libel) (Bill C- 117)— A/r. Nesbitt-(died on Order 
Paper). 

53. Criminal Code amendment (Impaired Driving) (Bill C-115)— ,Vr. A/af/jer- (died on Order Paper). 

54. Criminal Code amendment (Insanity) (Bill C-3S)— Mr. Brewin— (died on Order Paper). 

55. Criminal Code amendment (Judas-Tree Amendment) (Bill C-2)— A/r. FisAer— (Order for Resuming 
Debate on 2nd R died on Order Paper). 

56. Criminal Code amendment (Nuisance) (Bill C-66)— Mr. Hetridge— (died on Order Paper). 

57. Criminal Code amendment (Provincial Lotteries) (Bill C-65)— A/r. Valade— (died on Order Paper). 

58. Criminal Code amendment (Purge for the King's-evil) (Bill C-33)— A/r. Fis/jer- (died on Order 
Paper). 

59. Criminal Code amendment (Raffles and Bingo for Charitable Purposes) (Bill C- 15)— A/r. Gray— 
(died on Order Paper). 

60. Criminal Code amendment (Restriction on Publication of Proceedings) (Bill C-90)— A/r. Lachance— 
(died on Order Paper). 

61. Criminal Code amendment (Wire Tapping, etc.) (Bill C-72)-A/r. Pennell— (died on Order Paper). 

62. Criminal Injuries Compensation Act (Bill C-75)—Mr. Orm is ton— (died on Order Paper). 

63. Crown Corporations Bilingual Names Act (Bill C-100)-A/r. Caoue«e-(died on Order Paper). 

64. Customs Act amendment (Bill C-ll9)-The Minister of F inance—(hased on Ways and Means res- 
olution; enacted as Chap. 16, S.C. 1965). 



360 INDEX 

Bills, Public (Government and Private Members) -(Continued) 

65. Customs Tariff amendment (Bill C- 120)— The Minister of Finance— (based on Ways and Means 
resolution; enacted as Chap. 17, S.C. 1965). 

66. Excise Tax Act amendment (Refund on Designated Goods) (Bill C-96)— The Minister of Finance— 
(based on resolution; enacted as Chap. 2, S.C. 1965). 

67. Exportation of the Growth and Produce of Canada Act (Bill C-87)-A/r. Pe^ers-(died on Order 
Paper). 

68. Family Allowances Act and the Old Age Security Act amendment (Charitable Gifts) (Bill C-31)- 
Mr. Harley-(died on Order Paper). 

Federal-Provincial Fiscal Arrangements Act amendment: See Income Tax Act amendment, 

69. Financial Administration Act amendment (Discretionary Garnishee against Crown) (Bill C-69)— 
Mr. Whelan-(died on Order Paper"). 

70. Financial Administration Act amendment (Public Accounts) (Bill C-78)—Mr. Fisher-(died on 
Order Paper). 

71. Fisheries Act amendment (Forfeiture Floor) (Bill C-21)—Mr. Career— (died on Order Paper). 

72. Fisheries Improvement Loans Act amendment (Bill C-121)— The Minister of Finance— (based on 
resolution; enacted as Chap. 9, S.C. 1965). 

73. Flag Dav of Canada Act (Bill C-47)-A/r. Rinfret-(died on Order Paper). 

74. Foreign Affairs Department Act (Bill CSS)— Mr. Marcoux— (died on Order Paper). 

75. Genocide Act (Bill C-30)-A/r. K/e:n-(died on Order Paper). 

76. Government Administration Act (Administrative Disclosure) (Bill C-39)-Mr. Mather-(died on 
Order Paper). 

77. House of Commons Act amendment (Speaker on Dissolution) (Bill C-32)—Mr. Whelan— (died on 
Order Paper). 

78. Immigration Act amendment (Disclosure of Reasons for Deportation) (Bill C-13)— A/r. Brewin— 
(died on Order Paper). 

79. Immigration Act amendment (Foreign Intervention in Industrial Disputes)(Bill C-\2)—Mt. Ormiston- 
(Order for Resuming Debate on 2nd R died on Order Paper). 

80. Immigration Act amendment (Mental Illness) (Bill C-23)-Mr. Hahn— (died on Order Paper). 

81. Immigration Act amendment (Mental Retardation) (Bill C-109)-A/r. A/af/ier-(died on Order Paper). 

82. Income Tax Act amendment (Industrial Workers) (Bill C-42)-Mr. Howard-(died on Order Paper). 

83. Income Tax Act and Federal-Provincial Fiscal Arrangements Act amendment (Bill C-llS)— The 
Minister of Finance— (based on Ways and Means resolution; enacted as Chap. 18, S.C. 1965). 

84. Indian Act amendment (Liquor Rights) (Bill C-91)-A/r. Barnett-(died on Order Paper). 

85. Indian Claims Act (Bill C-123)-7/je Minister of Citizenship and Immigration— (preceded by reso- 
lution; died in Indian Claims (joint) Committee). 

86. Industrial Development Bank Act, 1963 (Maritime Provinces) (Bill C-51)-A/r. Coa^es-(died on 
Order Paper). 



INDEX 361 

Bills, Public (Government and Private Members) - (Continued) 

87. Industrial Relations and Disputes Investif^ation Act amendment (Voluntary Revocable Check-off) 
(Bill C-108)-/V/r. Know/es-(died on Order Paper). 

88. Interest Act amendment (12 per cent) (Bill C-83)-A/r. Or/y^OH'-(died on Order Paper). 

89. Juvenile Delinquents Act amendment (Application to Mentally Retarded) (Bill C-7)-Mr. Howe 
(Hamilton South)-(Order for Resuming Debate on 2nd R died on Order Paper), 

90. juvenile Delinquents Act amendment (Confinement with Adults) (Bill C-89)— A/r. Howard-idied 
on Order Paper). 

91. Marriage Act (Age of Marriage) (Bill C-26)-Mr. Matheson— (died on Order Paper). 

92. National Anthem Act (Bill C-55)-A/r. Rvan-(died on Order Paper). 

93. National Capital Act amendment (Tenure of Office) (Bill C-84)— A/r. Franc/s-(died on Order Paper). 

94. National Game of Canada Act (Hockey) (Bill C-73)-Mr. Roxbur^h-(died on Order Paper). 

95. National Housing Act, 1954, amendment(Bill C-104)- The A/ inis^ero/C/^fzens/jip and /mmi^ra^/on— 
(based on resolution; enacted as Chap. 3, S.C. 1965). 

96. Native Indian and Eskimo Arts and Crafts Act (Bill C-4)-A/r. //o»'arc/-( Order for Resuming Debate 
on 2nd R died on Order Paper). 

97. News Sources Protection Act (Press Privilege) (Bill C-11)— A/r. Fis/ier— (died on Order Paper). 

98. Northern Ontario Pipe Line Crown Corporation Act amendment (Tisdale Grain Elevator) (Bill 
C-77)-A/r. Rapp-(died on Order Paper). 

99. Oaths of Allegiance Act amendment (Affirmation) (Bill C-19)-A/r. Howe (Hamilton South)-(died 
on Order Paper). 

100. Oaths of Office (pro forma Bill C-1)-The Prime Minister. 

101. Ottawa Terminal Railway Company Act (Bill S-3)—The Minister of Transport— (originated in 
Senate; died on Commons Order Paper). 

102. Parliamentary Commissioner Act (Bill C-61)— A/r. 7/?ompson-(died on Order Paper). 

103. Parliamentary Sessions Act (Bill C-76)-A/r. Ryan-(died on Order Paper). 

104. Parliamentary Staff Act (Bill C-53)-A/r. Aiken-(died on Order Paper). 

105. Post Office Act amendment (Hate Literature) (Bill C-43)-A/r. Orlikow-(died on Order Paper). 

106. Public Service Superannuation Act amendment (Bill C-97)— The Minister of Finance -(based on 
resolution; enacted as Chap. 5, S.C. 1965). 

107. Quebec Savings Banks Act (Decennial Revision) (Bill C-103)-rhe Minister of Finance-(preceded 
by resolution; died in Finance, Trade and Economic Affairs Committee). 

108. Radio Act amendment (Community Antenna) (Bill C-57)-A/r. Fisher-(died on Order Paper). 

109. Railway Act amendment (Abandonment Moratorium) (Bill C-20)-A/r. Southam-(died on Order Paper). 

110. Railway Act amendment (Responsibility for Dislocation Costs) (Bill C-48)-A/r. Fisher-(died on 
Order Paper). 



362 INDEX 



Bills, Public (Government and Private Members) - (Continued) 



111. Railway Act amendment (Returns, Additional Copy for Parliament) (Bill C-34)— A/r. Prf^ie— (died 
on Order Paper). 



112. Senate and House of Commons Act amendment (Allowance to Leaders) (Bill C-35)— Mr. Marcoux— 
(died on Order Paper). 

113. Senate and House of Commons Act and the Members of Parliament Retiring Allowances Act amend- 
ment (Indemnity Increase, Refusal) (Bill C-27)—Mr. A/arcoux— (died on Order Paper). 

114. SenatorsRetirement Act (Bill C-98)-r/?e Prime Minister— (based on resolution; enacted as Chap. 
4, S.C. 1965). 

115. Sir John A. Macdonald Day Act (Bill C-14)-Mr. Macquarrie -(died on Order Paper). 

116. Small Businesses Loans Act amendment (Trucking Industry) (Bill C-112)— Mr. Le6/anc— (died on 
Order Paper). 

117. Small Loans Act amendment (Advertising) (Bill C-74)-/|/r. Or//itow-(died on Order Paper). 

118. Small Loans Act amendment (Interest Rates) (Bill C-24)-yWr. Or/iA^ow-(died on Order Paper). 

119. Supply (1st Supplementary of this Session, based on Supp. Estimates (A), 1965-66) (Bill C-122)- 
The Minister of F inance-(enacted as Chap. 6, S.C. 1965). 

120. Supply (2nd Supplementary of this Session, based on Supp. Estimates (C), 1965-66) (Bill C-130)— 
The Minister of Finance -(enacted as Chap. 10, S.C. 1965). 

121. Supply (1st Interim of this Session, based on Estimates, 1965-66) (Bill C-110)— The Minister of 
F inance— (enacted as Chap. 1, S.C. 1965). 

122. Supply (2nd Interim of this Session, based on Estimates and Supp. (B), 1965-66) (Bill C-131)- 
The Minister of Finance -(enacted as Chap. 11, S.C. 1965). 

123. Tobacco Inspection Act (Bill C-80)-A/r. Whelan-{died on Order Paper). 

124. Tobacco Restraint Act (Bill C-18)-A/r. Mather-(died on Order Paper). 

125. Tobacco Restraint Act (Repeal) (Bill C-64)-A/r. Cowan-(died on Order Paper). 

126. Trans-Canada Highway Act amendment (Confederation Road) (Bill C-71)— Mr. F isher— (died on 

Order Paper). 

127. Transport Act and Railway Act amendment (B.C. Water Carriers) (Bill C-5)-Mr. Barnett-(OTdei 
for Resuming Debate on 2nd R died on Order Paper). 

128. Unemployment Insurance Act amendment (Agricultural Employees' Coverage) (Bill C-44)— A/r. 
Rapp— (died on Order Paper). 

129. Veterans' Land Act amendment (Bill C-l2S)-The Minister of Veterans Affairs-(hased on reso- 
lution; enacted as Chap. 19, S.C. 1965). 

130. War Veterans Allowance Act, 1952, amendment (Bill C-127)-The Minister of Veterans Affairs- 
(based on resolution; enacted as Chap. 20, S.C. 1965). 

131. Weights and Measures Act amendment (Truth in Packaging) (Bill C-52)-Mr. Orlikow-(died on 
Order Paper). 



INDEX 363 

Bills, Public (Government and Private Members) - (Concluded) 

Note: See also under the followingheadings for proposed Government Measures in resolution stages 
for which Bills had not yet been presented: 

1. Aeronautics Act amendment. 

2. Canada Development Corporation Act. 

3. Judges Act amendment. 

4. Research Council Act amendment. 

5. Science Council of Canada Act, 

Birth Control Advertising: 

See Criminal Code amendment. 

Board of Trustees Maritime Transportation Unions: 

See Maritime Transportation Unions Board of Trustees. 

Boards of Inquiry (Aircraft Accidents): 
See Aeronautics Act amendment. 

Bonanno, Joe: 

See Immigrants. 

Breakwaters: 

See Harbours, Wharves and Breakwaters. 

Bretton Woods Agreements Act: 

Report on operations for 1964, 64. Sess. Paper No. 40. 

Bridges: 

Order,— Representations made since 1945 by Member from Kenora-Rainy River re toll-bridge between 
Canada-U.S. at Fort Frances, Ont., including suggestions for an alternative toll-free route: Mr. 
Fisher, 55. 

See also Airports. 

British Columbia Coastal Water Carriers: 

See Transport Act and Railway Act amendment. 

British North America Act: 

Address, -Correspondence between Justice Minister and Attorneys-General or provincial Ministers 
re methods of amending constitution of Canada: Mr. Brewin, 103-4. 

British North America Act amendment: 

1. Bill C-54, Mr. Knowles (Abolition of the Senate). 1st R., 22. 

2. Bill C-68, Mr. Prittie (Provincial Marriage and Divorce Laws). 1st R., 23. 

3. Bill C-85, Mr. Choquette (Royal Assent, Reservation and Disallowance). 1st R., 24. 

4. Bill C-94, Mr. Knowles (House of Commons, Quorum). 1st R., 31. 

5. Bill C-107, Mr. Peters (Duration of House of Commons). 1st R., 151. 

6. Address to Her Majesty the Queen from Quebec Legislative Assembly re abolition of Legislative 
Council, together with Addresses of transmittal to the Governor General and Quebec Lieutenant- 
Governor, and letters dated June 3 and 4, 1965, between Prime Minister and Quebec Premier, 
251. Sess. Paper No. 229. 

Broadcasting Act amendment: 

1. Bill C-28, Mr. Chretien (Radio-Canada). 1st R., 21. 

2. Bill C-40, Mr. Fisher (Community Antenna). 1st R., 2L 

3. Bill C-82, Mr. Harley (Political Programs). 1st R., 24. 

4. Bill C-86, Mr. Fisher (Disclosure of CBC Service Programme, Cost, and Estimates for 5 years). 
1st R., 24. 



Broadcasting, Films and Assistance to the Arts Committee: 

Membership, 256. 



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Budget: 

See Ways and Means. 



Business Committee: 

See Procedural Changes; Procedures Committee (Special). 

Business, Conflict of Interest: 

See Criminal Code amendment (C-2). 

Butter: 

See Dairy Products. 

Buttress Airport, Sask.: 
See Airports. 



Cambrian Mortgage Corporation: 

Petition received for an Act to change name from Muttart Mortgage Corporation to Cambrian Mortgage 
Corporation and add a French version of name, 38. Reported by Examiner of Petitions, 80. Bill 
S-6, Mr, Wahn. Received from Senate, 1st R., 141. 2nd R after debate, referred to Finance, Trade 
and Economic Affairs Committee, 170. 

Canada Day Act: 

Bill C-6, Mr. Chretien. 1st R., 20. 2nd R moved and debate interrupted, 194. 

Canada Development Corporation Act: 

Resolution,— To establish an investment corporation to provide capital for Canadian enterprises 
and to facilitate the acquisition of shares of such enterprises by Canadians rather than non- 
residents, etc.: House to consider in Committee of the Whole at next sitting, 53-4. 

Canada Disaster Fund Act: 

Bill C-17, Mr. Herridge. 1st R., 20. 

Canada Divorce Act: 

Bill C-114, Mr. Peters (Annulment and Dissolution of Marriage). 1st R., 217. 

Canada Elections Act amendment: 

1. Bill C-70, Mr. Francis (Appointment of DRO's and Poll Clerks). 1st R., 23. 

2. Bill C-105, Mr. Patterson (Political Affiliations of Candidates on Ballot Papers). 1st R., 115. 

Canada Evidence Act amendment: 

Bill C-29, Mr. Matheson (Privileged Communications). 1st R., 21. 

Canada Fair Employment Practices Act amendment: 

Bill C-41, Mr. Mather (Age Discrimination). 1st R., 21. 

Canada Gazette, Part II: 

See Statutory Orders and Regulations. 

Canada Grain Act amendment: 

Bill C-50, Mr. Olson (Off-track Elevator Licensing). 1st R., 22. 

Canada-Japan Relations: 

Letter dated June 25, 1965, with Annex re voluntary controls on export of certain products to Canada 
for 1965, 301. Sess. Paper No. 155A. (Printed as appendix to Votes and Proceedings of June 25, 
1965). 



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Canada Labour (Standards) Code: 

1. Order, -Return re newspaper advertisement, cost, etc.: Mr. Harkness-presented forthwith, 323-4. 
Sess. Paper No. 85A. 

2. Regulations: See Statutory Orders and Regulations. 

Canada Labour (Standards) Code Act amendment: 

1. Bill C-60, Mr. Fisher (Severance Pay). 1st R., 22. 

2. Bill C-79, Mr. Knowles (Increase in Minimum Hourly Wage). 1st R., 23. 

3. Bill C-81, Mr. Knowles (Three Weeks Vacation). 1st R., 24. 

Canada Medal Act: 

Bill C-92, Mr. Leblanc. 1st R., 24. 

Canada Student Loons Act: 

Statement dated June 11, 1965, by Finance Minister together with three reports, 219. Sess. Paper 
No. 64A. (Printed as appendix to Hansard of June 11, 1965). 

Canada-United States Agreements, Notes, etc.: 
See Automotive Industry. 

Canadair Ltd.: 

See Government Contracts, etc.; Industrial Disputes. 

Canada's Notional Game Act: 

Bill C-3, Mr. Prittie (Lacrosse). 1st R., 20. 2nd R moved and debate interrupted, 230. 

Canadian Arsenals Limited: 

See Crown Corporations Bilingual Names Act. 

Canadian Broadcasting Corporation: 

1. Report for 1964-65, with auditor's report, 332. Sess. Paper No. 138. Printed. 

2. Free political time on equal basis to all parties, considering advisability of: motion (Mr. Marcoux) 
moved and debate interrupted, 118. 

See also Broadcasting Act amendment; Expo '67. 

Canadian Citizenship Act amendment: 

Bill C-8, Mr. Fisher (Freedom of Conscience). 1st R., 20. 

Canadian Commercial Corporation: 

Report for 1964-65, with auditor's report, 331. Sess. Paper No. 23. Printed. 

Canadian Corporation for the 1967 World Exhibition: 

1. Report for 1964, including statements of accounts and report of Auditor-General and Quebec 
Provincial Auditor, 25. Sess. Paper No. 132. Printed. 

2. Capital budget for 1965, 25. Sess. Paper No. 132A. 

Canadian Council of Resource Ministers: 

See Public Service Superannuation Act amendment. 

Canadian Forces Superannuation Act; 

Statements on standing and transactions of account as at March 31, 1965, 332. Sess. Paper No. 100. 

Canadian Forces Superannuation Act amendment: 

See Public Service Superannuation Act amendment. 

Canadian Forces Voting Rules: 
See Elections. 

Canadian Institute of Mining and Metallurgy: 

Petition received to amend Act of incorporation authorizing by by-law location of head office, 112. 
Reported by Examiner of Petitions, 119. Bill S-12, Mr. Moreau. Received from Senate, 1st R., 
297. 2nd R after debate, considered in Committee of the Whole, reported without amendment. 



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Canadian Institute of Mining and Metallurgy - (Concluded) 

3rd R., 318. R.A., 330. 14 Elizabeth II, Chapter 24, S.C. 1965. 

Canadian Maritime Commission: 

Report for 1964-65, 332. Sess. Paper No. 174. 

Canadian Metalmining Association: 
See Immigration. 

Canadian National Railways: 

1. Annual report and securities trust report for 1964, 42. Sess. Paper Nos. 163 (Printed), 168 
(Printed). 

2. Auditor's report for 1964, 80. Sess. Paper No. 166. Printed. 

3. Orders in Council withdrawing from entrustment 8.83 acres of the abandoned reservoir and pipe- 
line right-of-way near St. Leonard, County of Madawaska, N.B., 15-6; 2,282 sq. ft. of land in 
Moncton, County of Westmorland, N.B., 16; parcels of the abandoned Armagh Subdivision right- 
of-way of the official plan for Parish of St. Jean-Chrysostome, Registration Division of Levis, 
Que., 16; 5.545 acres of land in Town of Cochrane, Ont., 16; parcels of land at Hadlow, Que., 
16; parcel of land of Lot 446 in St. Laurent Ward, Levis, Que., 16; 29 parcels of land in St. 
Laurent Ward, Levis, Que., 16. Sess. Paper Nos. 167A, 167B, 167C, 167D, 167E, 167F, 167G 
respectively. 

See also Crown Corporations; Ottawa Terminal Railway Company Act; Railways; Toronto, Ont. 

Canadian National Railways Branch Line Act: 

Resolution,— To provide for construction of a line of railway in Ontario from a point of the Froomfield 
Spur near Sarnia in a southerly direction to property of Canadian Industries Limited, etc.: House 
to consider in Committee of the Whole at next sitting, 197. ConsideredinCommitteeof the Whole, 
resolution adopted, 284. Bill C-124, Minister of Transport, 1st R., 284. 2nd R, considered in 
Committee of the Whole, reported without amendment, 3rd R., 291. Passed by Senate, 326. R.A., 
330. 14 Elizabeth II, Chapter 14, S.C. 1965. 

Canadian National Railways Pensions: 

Order,— Correspondence since May 1, 1963, between Canadian National Pensions Association and 
Prime Minister re increased pensions for retired employees: Mr. Bigg, 104. Presented, 150. 
Sess. Paper No. 163A. 

Canadian National (West Indies) Steamships Limited: 
See Crown Corporations Bilingual Names Act. 

Canadian Overseas Telecommunications Corporation: 

Capital budget for 1965-66, 173. Sess. Paper No. 171A. 

Canadian Pacific Railway Company: 

Letters dated May 3 and 12, 1965, between Transport Minister and President of CPR re railway 

passenger traffic, 122. Sess. Paper No. 172A. 
See also Ottawa Terminal Railway Company Act; Railways. 

Canadian Patents and Development Limited: 

Report for 1964-65, with auditor's report, 319. Sess. Paper Nos. 239, 239A. 
See also Crown Corporations Bilingual Names Act. 

Canadian Wheat Board: 

1. Report for crop year ending July 31, 1964, certified by auditors, 50. Sess. Paper No. 150. 
Printed. 

2. Supplementary report on 1963-64 pool accounts, certified by auditors, 145. Sess. Paper No. 150A. 
Printed. 

See also Feed Grain. 

Capital Punishment: 

1. Press release respecting government's intentions on a special committee on corrections and 
free vote on capital punishment, 27. Sess. Paper No. 191. (Printed as appendix to Hansardof 
Apr. 9, 1965). 



INDEX 367 

Capital Punishment - (Concluded) 

2. Publication entitled "Capital Punishment- Material Relating to its Purpose and Value", 296. 
Sess. Paper No. 233. Printed. 

3. Order,— Return showing for 1946-64, convictions for murder, executions, comparison to homicide 
mortality rate: Mr. Matheson- presented forthwith, 125. Sess. Paper No. 210. Supplementary 
Return, 254. Sess. Paper No. 210A. 

4. Order, -Return re bungled hangings, repeats, etc.: Mr. Matheson, 252. 
See also Criminal Code amendment. 

Captive Sales Financing: 

See Combines Investigation Act amendment. 

Centennial Commission: 

1. Report for 1964-65, with auditor's report, 319. Sess. Paper No. 139. 

2. Order, -Return re resignations, names, reasons, positions, replacements, projects approved, loca- 
tions, costs: Mr. Martineau— presented forthwith, 243-4. Sess. Paper No. 139B. 

3. Order,— Return re personnel hired, released, transferred since inception, classifications, salaries, 
etc.: Mr. Hamilton, 252-3. Presented, 279. Sess. Paper No. 139C. 

Centennial Observances: 

Order, -Correspondence, etc., between Centennial Commission and Mr. W. Fair or others re setting- 
up of a Youth Parliament: Mr. Martineau, 77. Presented, 173. Sess. Paper No. 139A. 
See also Expo '67. 

Central Mortgage and Housing Corporation: 

Order,— Return showing since Apr. 8, 1963, lawyers employed in Metropolitan Toronto area, names, 

payments: Mr. Scott— presented forthwith, 323. Sess. Paper No. 242. 
See also Central Mortgage and Housing Corporation Act amendment; National Housing Act, 1954, 

amendment. 

Central Mortgage and Housing Corporation Act amendment: 

Bill S-8, Minister of Citizenship and Immigration. Received from Senate, 162. 1st R., 167. 2nd R 
after debate, considered in Committee of the Whole, reported without amendment, 3rd R., 277. 
R.A., 298. 14 Elizabeth II, Chapter 8, S.C. 1965. 

Century Insurance Company of Canada: 

Petition received to amend Act of incorporation to change name from Pacific Coast Fire Insurance 
Company to the Century Insurance Company of Canada and add a French version of name, and 
to increase its capital stock from one million to two million dollars, 72. Reported by Examiner 
of Petitions, 81. Bill S-14, Mr. Basford. Received from Senate, 1st R., 297. 2nd R after debate, 
referred to Finance, Trade and Economic Affairs Committee, 318. 

Chairman of Committees of the Whole House: 
See Committees of the Whole House. 

Chairman's Decisions Appealed: 

Bills, Government; Committee of the Whole Amendments: 

Mr. Cameron (Nanaimo-Cowichan-The Islands), in Committee of the Whole on Bill C-118 (Income 
Tax Act), moved in amendment to clause 4 the deletion of sub-paragraph (2) from section 12-A 
and the renumbering of succeeding sub-paragraphs, 303. Ruling of Mr. Lamoureux (Chairman) 
on point of order— that amendment was out of order in that it imposed a tax— appealed to Mr. 
Deputy Speaker pursuant to provisional S.O. 59(4) and decision confirmed, 303-4. 
See also Procedural Changes. 

Charitable Gifts: 

See Family Allowances Act and the Old Age Security Act amendment. 

Charny, Que., moil delivery: 

See Post Office Department. 

Chartered Banks: 

See Bank Act, etc. 



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Children of War Dead (Education Assistance) Act amendment: 

Resolution,— To increase monthly allowance and to provide that changes in orphan's pension under 
the Pension Act may be paid to student after he has attained the age of twenty-one: House to 
consider in Committee of the Whole at next sitting, 281. Considered in Committee of the Whole, 
resolution adopted, 291. Bill C-125, Minister of Veterans Affairs, 1st R., 291. 2nd R after debate, 
considered in Committee of the Whole, reported without amendment, 3rd R., 304. Passed by 
Senate, 326. R.A., 330. 14 Elizabeth II, Chapter 15, S.C. 1965. 

Cigarette Smoking: 

See National Health and Welfare Department. 

Citizenship: 

See Canadian Citizenship Act amendment; Oaths of Allegiance Act amendment. 

Citizenship and Immigration Department: 

1. Report for 1963-64, 69. Sess. Paper No. 15. Printed. 

2. Return to Order of House, dated Mar. 31, 1965, for correspondence, etc., received by Prime 
Minister, Citizenship and Immigration Minister or departmental officials re Professor Mulford Q. 
Sibley case, replies, 189. Sess. Paper No. 17B. 

See also Indian Affairs. 

Civil Service Commission: 

1. Report for 1964, 298. Sess. Paper No. 140. Printed. 

2. Positions excluded from operation of Civil Service Act and appointments made without com- 
petition for period Feb. 1, 1964 to Feb. 28, 1965, 119. Sess. Paper No. 141. 

3. Positions excluded from operation of Civil Service Act and appointments made without com- 
petition for period Jan. 1 to Dec. 31, 1964, 211. Sess. Paper No. 141A. 

See also National Employment Service; Public Service. 

Civil Service Insurance Act: 

Statement on operations for 1964-65, 314. Sess. Paper No. 42. 

Clerk of Petitions: 

1. Reports on Petitions for Private Bills, 17, 38, 42, 72, 112, 181, 189, 319-20 (late), 333. 

2. Reports on Public Petitions, 46-7, 69, 129. 

See also Bills, Private; Miscellaneous Private Bills Committee; Speaker's Rulings, etc.- and under 
titles of Particular Private Bills. 

Clerk of the House: 

1. Informs House of absence of Mr. Speaker, 183, 231, 249, 251, 255, 273, 281, 287, 295, 301. 

2. On dissolution. Clerk to act until Speaker chosen by new Parliament; See House of Commons 
Act amendment. 

3. Tables Private Bills, 31, 53. 

Coal Production Assistance Act: 

Report of operations for 1964-65, 246. Sess. Paper No. 94. 

Coat of Arms: 

See Social Security Card. 

Collateral Bills and Notes Act: 

Bill C-10, Mr. Ryan. 1st R., 20. 2nd R moved and debate interrupted, 86. 

Combines Investigation Act amendment: 

1. Bill C-37, Mr. Noble (Captive Sales Financing). 1st R., 21. 

2. Bill C-56, Mr. Gelber (Consent Decree). 1st R., 22. 

3. Bill C-67, Mr. Orlikow (Floor Penalties, Criminal Joint Tortfeasors, and Moieties). 1st R., 23. 

Committees of the Whole House: 

Deputy Chairman, Herman Maxwell Batten, Esq., M.P., appointed on motion, 7. 



INDEX 369 

Committees, reorganization, etc.: 
See Procedural Changes. 

Committees, Special: 

See Food and Drugs Committee; Procedures Committee (Special); Supply Procedures Committee. 

Committees, Special, Joint: 

See Consumer Credit (Joint) Committee; Indian Claims (Joint) Committee; Penitentiaries (Joint) 
Committee. 

Committees, Standing: 

Committee appointed to strike Standing Committees, 7. Report of Membership, 256-62. Report con- 
curred in, 257, (For list of Standing Committees, see Journals, pages, 191, 256-62, 322). 

Commonwealth Conferences: 

Copy of final communique on meeting of Prime Ministers, 1965, together with related papers, 316. 
Sess. Paper No. 240. (Printed as appendix to Hansard of June 29, 1965). Reprinted as appendix 
to Hansard oi June 30, 1965, to include part entitled "Agreed Memorandum on the Commonwealth 
Secretariat", 329. 

Commonwealth Day Act: 

Bill C-93, Mr. Rynard. 1st R., 24. 

Communications, Privileged: 

See Canada Evidence Act amendment. 

Community Antenna System: 
See Television. 

Commutation of Death Sentence: 

See Criminal Code amendment. 

Compensation for Injuries Sustained While Attempting to Prevent Crime: 
See Criminal Injuries Compensation Act. 

Confederation Rood Act: 

See Trans-Canada Highway Act amendment. 

Constitution: 

See British North America Act. 

Consumer Credit (Joint) Committee: 

Motion,— To appoint to continue inquiry into problem of consumer credit and operation of Canadian 
legislation in relation thereto, referral of last sessions Committee proceedings and evidence, 
power to obtain required personnel, House membership to consist of 24 members, and that a mes- 
sage be sent to the Senate: Notice called and transferred to Government Orders, 255-6. Moved, 
and debate interrupted, 285. 

Consumer Credit (Promissory Notes): 
See Collateral Bills and Notes Act. 



Contempt of Court: 

See Criminal Code amendment. 



Contracts and Contractors (Federal): 

See Government Contracts, Purchases, etc.; Post Office Department; Public Works. 



Co-operative Credit Societies Report: 
See Insurance, Superintendent of. 



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Cornwall International Bridge Company Limited: 

Report for year ended Sept. 30, 1964, with auditor's report, 15. Sess. Paper No. 177. 

See also Crown Corporations Bilingual Names Act; Seaway International Bridge Corporation, Ltd. 

Corrections Committee: 

1. Press release respecting government's intentions on a special committee on corrections and 
free vote on capital punishment, 27. Sess. Paper No. 191. (Printed as appendix to Hansard of 
Apr. 9, 1965). 

2. Press release dated June 2, 1965, re appointment of consultants, 175. Sess. Paper No. 222. 

Credit (Consumer): 

See Collateral Bills and Notes Act; Consumer Credit (Joint) Committee. 

Credit (Instalment Buying): 

See Bills of Exchange Act amendment; Collateral Bills and Notes Act. 

Criminal Code amendment: 

1. Bill C-2, Mr. Fisher Qudas-Tree Amendment). 1st R., 19. 2nd R moved and debate interrupted, 139. 

2. Bill C-15, Mr. Gray (Raffles and Bingo for Charitable Purposes). 1st R., 20. 

3. Bill C-16, Mr. Gelber (Disturbing the Public Peace). 1st R., 20. 

4. Bill C-33, Mr. Fisher (Purge for the King's-evil). 1st R., 21. 

5. Bill C-36, Mr. Prittie (Birth Control Advertising). 1st R., 21. 

6. Bill C-38, Mr. Brewin (Insanity). 1st R., 21. 

7. Bill C-45, Mr. Orlikow (Company-censored Housing). 1st R., 22. 

8. Bill C-46, Mr. Temple (Commutation of Death Sentence). 1st R., 22. 

9. Bill C-59, Mr. Cowan (Contempt of Court). 1st R., 22. 

10. Bill C-65, Mr. Valade (Provincial Lotteries). 1st R., 23. 

11. Bill C-66, Mr. Herridge (Nuisance). 1st R., 23. 

12. Bill C-72, Mr. Pennell (Wire Tapping, etc.). 1st R., 23. 

13. Bill C-88, Mr. Francis (Family Planning). 1st R., 24. 

14. Bill C-90, Mr. Lachance (Restriction on Publication of Proceedings). 1st R., 24. 

15. Bill C-111, Mr. Temple (Abolition of Capital Punishment). 1st R., 167. 

16. Bill C-115, Mr. Mather (Impaired Driving). 1st R., 219. 

17. Bill C-117, Mr. Nesbitt (Group Defamatory Libel). 1st R., 249. 

Criminal Injuries Compensation Act: 

Bill C-75, Mr. Ormiston, 1st R., 23. 

Criminals, Habitual: 

See Penitentiaries. 

Crown Assets Disposal Corporation: 

Report for 1964-65, with auditor's report, 319. Sess. Paper No. 24. Printed. 
See also Airports. 

Crown Corporations: 

1. Orders-Return re number of employees in corporations indicated, status, etc.: Mr. Caouette, 252. 

2. Order,— Return re subsidiaries, authorization, etc.; Canadian National Railways, Polymer Cor- 
poration Limited, Eldorado Mining and Refining Limited, subsidiaries, administration, etc.: Mr. 
Caouette— presented forthwith, 322. Sess. Paper No. 241. 

See also Public Service. 

Crown Corporations Bilingual Names Act: 

Bill C-100, Mr. Caouette. 1st R., 65. 

Crown Corporations Committee: 

Membership, 257. 

Currency: 

See Mint, Royal Canadian. 



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Customs Act: 

Order, -Copies of orders by National Revenue Minister since Dec. 23, 1963, for purpose of fixing 
duties: Mr. Moreau, 104. Presented, 135. Sess. Paper No. 215. 

Customs Act amendment: 

Resolution (Printed in Votes and Proceedings Notice Paper, Apr. 26, 1965) adopted, 268. Bill C-119, 
Minister of Finance, 1st R., 270. 2nd R after debate, considered in Committee of the Whole, 
reported without amendment, 3rd R., 284-5. Passed by Senate, 315. R.A., 330. 14 Elizabeth II, 
Chapter 16, S.C. 1965. 

Customs TariH: 

See South Africa. 

Customs Tariff amendment: 

Resolution (Printed in Votes and Proceedings Notice Paper, Apr. 26, 1965) adopted, 273. Bill C-120, 
Minister of Finance, 1st R., 276. 2nd R after debate, considered in Committee of the Whole, 
reported without amendment, 3rd R., 285. Passed by Senate, 326. R.A., 330. 14 Elizabeth II, 
Chapter 17, S.C. 1965. 



Dairy Products: 

1. Order,-Return re subsidies to dairy industry in Shefford, Rouville and Bagot counties, amounts, 
etc.: Mr. Rondeau-presented forthwith, 116. Sess. Paper No. 3B. 

2. Order,-Return re butter production during 1963-65, exports, countries, home consumption, surplus: 
Mr. Boutin-presented forthwith, 324. Sess. Paper No. 3C. 

Debts due to the Crown: 

See Seed Grain Indebtedness. 

Debts, Orderly Payment of: 

See Bankruptcy Act amendment. 

Defence Committee: 

See National Defence Committee. 

Defence Construction (1951) Limited: 

Report for 1964-65, with auditor's report, 332. Sess. Paper No. 25. Printed. 
See also Crown Corporations Bilingual Names Act. 

Defence Production Department: 

1. Report for 1964, 46. Sess. Paper No. 19. Printed. 

2. Estimates, Main, 1965-66, referred to National Defence Committee, 263. 

Department of Foreign Affairs Act: 

See Foreign Affairs Department Act. 

Deportation: 

See Immigrants; Immigration Act amendment. 

Designated Areas: 

See Area Development Incentives Act. 



Dion, Leopold: 

See Parole Board. 



Disaster Fund Relief: 

See Canada Disaster Fund Act. 



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Distinguished visitors: 

Shastri, Prime Minister of India, joint communique issued June 14, 1%5, 242. Sess. Paper No. 226. 
(Printed as appendix to Hansard of June 14, 1965). 

Disturbing the Public Peace: 

See Criminal Code amendment. 

Divisions, Recorded: 

1. Subamendment (Mr. Douglas) to Motion for Address in Reply, negatived (Yeas 84, Nays 129), 14-5. 

2. Amendment (Mr. Diefenbaker) to Motion for Address in Reply, negatived (Yeas 93, Nays 106), 28-9. 

3. Speaker's Ruling on amendment (Mr. Rondeau) to Motion for Address in Reply appealed to House 
(Mr. Caouette) and ruling sustained (Yeas 110, Nays 14), 34-5. 

4. Amendment (Mr. Plourde) to Motion for Address in Reply, negatived (Yeas 32, Nays 126), 35-6. 

5. Speaker' s Ruling on Point of Order (referral of Pope Commission of Inquiry to Committee) 
appealed to House (Mr. Mcintosh) and ruling sustained (Yeas 122, Nays 52), 39-41. 

6. Motion (Mr. Knowles) that member by now heard, negatived (Yeas 31, Nays 157), 58-9. 

7. Subamendment (Mr. Cameron) (Nanaimo-Cowichan-The Islands) to Motion to resolve House into 
Committee of Ways and Means (Budget), negatived (Yeas 90, Nays 106), 59-60. 

8. Motion (Mr. Peters) that member be now heard, negatived (Yeas 22, Nays 148), 66-7. 

9. Amendment (Mr. Nowlan)to resolve House into Committee of Ways and Means (Budget), negatived 
(Yeas 100, Nays 111), 67-9. 

10. Speaker's Ruling on objection to transfer of a motion for an Address for Papers (No. 1, Mr. 
Hales) to the order of "Notices of Motions (Papers)", appealed to House and ruling sustained 
(Yeas 130, Nays 82), 74-5. 

11. Main motion (Mr. Gordon) for Committee of Ways and Means (Budget), agreed to (Yeas 132, Nays 
86), 78-9. 

12. Deputy Speaker's Ruling (Mr. Lamoureux) on an amendment to 2nd R of Bill C-98 (Senators 
Retirement) appealed to House (Mr. Prittie) and ruling sustained (Yeas 99, Nays 18), 85-6. 

13. Amendment (Mr. Douglas) to Supply Motion No. 1, negatived (Yeas 95, Nays 110), 92-3. 

14. Amendment (Mr. Howard) to supersede motion for 2nd R of Bill C-98 (Senators Retirement) by 
"six months' hoist", negatived (Yeas 15, Nays 112), 116-7. 

15. Amendment (Mr. Diefenbaker) to defer 3rd R of Bill C-98 (Senators Retirement) and recommit to 
Committee of the Whole, negatived (Yeas 75, Nays 117), 122-3. 

16. Subamendment (Mr. Aiken) to motion to amend the Standing Orders, negatived (Yeas 69, Nays 
122), 185-6. 

17. Amendment (Mr. MacNaught) to motion to amend the Standing Orders, agreed to (Yeas 107, Nays 
46), 193-4. 

18. Motion (Mr. Mcllraith) for concurrence in Procedures Committee (Special) first report, agreed to 
(Yeas 103, Nays 33), 219-20. 

19. Amendment (Mr. Barnett) to defer 2nd R of Bill C-123 (Indian Claims) and consider new legisla- 
tion broadening terms of reference of claims commission and appointing non-Canadian jurist as 
presiding officer over appeal court, negatived (Yeas 13, Nays 153), 288-9. 

20. Motion (Mr. Gordon) for 2nd R of Bill C-118 (Income Tax Act) agreed to (Yeas 102, Nays 58), 
292-3. 

21. Amendment (Mr. Knowles) to defer 3rd R of Bill C-118 (Income Tax Act) and recommit to Com- 
mittee of the Whole, negatived (Yeas 78, Nays 102), 312-3. 

Divorce: 

See British North America Act amendment; Canada Divorce Act. 

Dominion Day Act (Repeal): 
See Canada Day Act. 

Dominion-Provincial Conferences: 

See Federal-Provincial Conferences. 



Dorion, Chief Justice Frederic: 
See Drugs, Narcotic. 



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Drugs, Narcotic: 

Report of Commission of Inquiry (Dorion) into alleged bribery attempt on lawyer in Lucien Rivard 
extradition case, and into the conduct of investigation thereof by Justice Minister and RCMP, 
316. Sess. Paper No. 238. Printed. 

Dupuis, Hon. Yvon: 

See Justice Department. 



Eastern Canada Farm Survey Report: 
See Farmers. 

Economic Unity of Canada: 

Interim report of Inter-Departmental Committee, 87. Sess. Paper No. 201. 

Educational Assistance: 

1. Youth extension program of the Parliament of Canada, consideration to advisability of under- 
writing: motion (Mr. Bell) moved and debate interrupted, 66. 

2. University graduates, slowing down emigration to U.S. by granting tax-free period equivalent to 
time spent on post-graduate studies, considering advisability of: motion (Mr. Moreau) moved and 
debate interrupted, 180. 

3. Order, -Return showing since 1950 grants to British Columbia universities including total of 
per capita grants: Mr. Deachman— presented forthwith, 175. Sess. Paper No. 218. 

4. Order, -Correspondence since Sept. 1, 1964, received by Finance Minister re increasing univer- 
sity per capita grants, etc.: Mr. Coates, 177. 

5. Order,— Return showing since 1960 total federal expenditures including per capita grants to New 
Brunswick: Mr. Dube— presented forthwith, 244. Sess. Paper No. 218A. 

See also Canada Student Loans Act; Children of War Dead (Education Assistance) Act amendment. 

Eggs, Price Stabilization: 

See Exportation of the Growth and Produce of Canada Act. 

Eldorado Aviation Limited: 

Report for 1964, with auditor's report, 16. Sess. Paper No. 153. Printed. 
See also Crown Corporations Bilingual Names Act. 

Eldorado Mining and Refining Limited: 

Report for 1964, with auditor's report, 16. Sess, Paper No. 153. Printed. 
See also Crown Corporations; Crown Corporations Bilingual Names Act. 

Elections: 

Order,— Return re Armed Forces vote by constituencies, costs, etc.: Mr. Thompson-presented forth- 
with, 89. Sess. Paper No. 203. 
See also Canada Elections Act amendment. 



Emergency Gold Mining Assistance Act: 

Report for 1964-65, 139. Sess. Paper No. 96. 

Emergency Measures Organization: 
See National Training Service. 

Employment: 

See Canada Fair Employment Practices Act amendment. 

Energy Board: 

See National Energy Board. 

Eskimo Arts and Crafts: 

See Native Indian and Eskimo Arts and Crafts Act. 



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Estate Tax Act amendment: 

Amending to provide for payment of assessments by instalments to reduce number of "forced sale" 
liquidations: motion (Mr. Hales) moved and debate interrupted, 129. 

Estimates: 

1. Main Estimates, 1965-66, tabled, 45. Sess. Paper No. 44. Printed. 

2. Supplementary Estimates (A), 1965-66, tabled, 121. Sess. Paper No. 44A. Printed. 

3. Supplementary Estimates (B), 1965-66, tabled, 287. Sess. Paper No. 44B. Printed. 

4. Supplementary Estimates (C), 1965-66, tabled, 309. Sess. Paper No. 44C. Printed. 

5. Estimates referred to Standing Committees, 163, 263. 
See also Standing Orders; Supply; Ways and Means. 

Evangelistic Tabernacle Incorporated: 

Petition received for an Act to incorporate, and for other purposes, 190. Reported by Examiner of 
Petitions, 195. Bill S-11, Mr. Stefanson. Received from Senate, 1st R., 297. 2nd R after debate, 
referred to Miscellaneous Private Bills Committee, 317. 

Examiner of Petitions: 

Reports, 30, 51, 80, 119, 195, 320, 333. 

See also Miscellaneous Private Bills Committee-and under titles of particular Private Bills. 

Exchange Fund Account: 

Report on operations together with financial statement for 1964, 173. Sess. Paper No. 45. 

Exchange of Notes: 

See Agreements, etc. 

Exchequer Court of Canada: 

1. Amendments to General Rules and Orders, 30. Sess. Paper No. 76. 

2. Amendment to General Rules and Orders regulating Practice and Procedure in Admiralty cases, 
30. Sess. Paper No. 76A. 

Excise Tax Act amendment: 

Resolution,— To amend 1963 Statutes, Chap. 12, section 10, to permit a refund or deduction of tax 
in respect of designated goods: House to consider in Committee of the Whole at next sitting, 
32. By unanimous consent, considered in Committee of the Whole same sitting, resolution adopted, 
37. Bill C-96, Minister of Finance, 1st R, 2nd R, considered in Committee of the Whole, reported 
without amendment, 3rd R., 37. Passed by Senate, 125. R.A., 181. 14 Elizabeth II, Chapter 2, 
S.C. 1965. 



Executions: 

See Capital Punishment. 

Exhibition and Fairs: 
See Expo '67. 

Expo '67: 

1. Order,-Return re architectural and engineering firms employed, names, addresses, projects: Mr. 
More-presented forthwith, 214. Sess. Paper No. 132B. 

2. Order, -Return re total expenditures to date, amounts pertaining to National Harbours Board, 
Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, Trans-Canada Highway within Montreal, other works: Mr. 
Coates-presented forthwith, 282. Sess. Paper No. 132C. 

3. Order, -Return re agricultural exhibit, employees, expenditures: Mr. Harkness— presented forth- 
with, 282-3. Sess. Paper No. 132D. 

4. Address,— Correspondence between External Affairs Minister and government of China (Formosa) 
re invitation to participate: Mr. Hamilton, 324-5. 

Export Credits Insurance Act: 

Report on operations under Part II for 1964-65, 64. Sess. Paper No. 46. 



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Export Credits Insurance Corporation: 

1. Report and financial statements for 1964, with auditor's report, 42. Sess. Paper No. 154. Printed. 

2. Order in Council authorizing long-term financing for sale by Dominion Steel and Coal Corp., 
Ltd., of steel rails and track accessories to Ferrocarriles Nacionales de Mexico, Mexico City, 
Mexico, 50. Sess. Paper No. 154A. 

3. Order in Council authorizing insurance contract for sale of wheat to Bulgaria, 119. Sess. Paper 
No. 154B. 

4. Order in Council authorizing insurance contract for shipment of wheat to Poland, 119. Sess. 
Paper No. 154C. 

5. Order in Council authorizing insurance contract for shipment of wheat to Czechoslovakia, 158. 
Sess. Paper No. 154D. 

6. Order in Council authorizing financing for the purchase of telecommunication equipment and 
associated technical services from R.C.A. Victor Company Ltd., Montreal, by the United Arab 
Republic, 173-4. Sess. Paper No. 154E. 

7. Order in Council authorizing insurance contract for additional sale of wheat to Poland, 306-7. 
Sess. Paper No. 154F. 

Exportation of the Growth and Produce of Canada Act: 

Bill C-87, Mr. Peters. 1st R., 24. 

Expropriation Act amendment: 

Amending to provide greater protection for citizens: motion (Mr. Thompson) moved and debate inter- 
rupted, 313. 

External Affairs: 
See Viet Nam. 

External Affairs Committee: 

1. Membership, 191, 213, 273. 

2. Estimates of External Affairs Department referred, without notice or debate, 163. 

3. Reports: First (sittings), 249; Second (extending terms of reference in order to submit a report 
on last sessions evidence re hate literature and genocide, referral of last sessions evidence), 
316. 

4. Reports concurred in: First, on notice after debate, 255; Second, without notice or debate, 316. 

External Affairs Department: 

1. Estimates, Main, 1965-66, referred to External Affairs Committee, 163. 

2. Change of name, see Foreign Affairs Department Act. 

External Aid: 

See Grants and Loans, External. 



Fair, William: 

See Centennial Observances. 

Fair Employment Practices Act amendment: 

See Canada Fair Employment Practices Act amendment. 



Fairs: 

See Exhibition and Fairs. 

Family Allowances: 

Petition received from "La Societe Marquette, Inc.", Montreal, Que., submitting that the govern- 
ment can and should guarantee all Canadians under 16 the sum of $30 per month beginning in 
July 1965 as "Basic Personal Right", and for other purposes, report tabled that petition meets 
requirements of S.O. 70, 129-30. Request, that petition be read, 159. Mr, Speaker ruled that 
request should have been made when Clerk of Petitions report was presented, however, without 
creating a precedent, it was allowed, 159-60. Petition read by the Clerk of the House, 160-1. 



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Family Allowances Act and the Old Age Security Act amendment: 

Bill C-31, Mr. Harley (Charitable Gifts). 1st R., 21. 

Family Planning: 

See Criminal Code amendment. 

Farm Assistance: 

See Agriculture Department. 

Farm Credit Corporation: 

1. Report for 1964-65, with auditor's report, 332. Sess. Paper No. 9. Printed. 

2. Capital budget for 1965-66, 150. Sess. Paper No. 9A. 

Farm Machinery: 

Royal Commission to investigate prices, considering advisability of appointing: motion (Mr. Rapp) 
moved and debate interrupted, 214-5. 

Farmers: 

Report entitled "Eastern Canada Farm Survey 1963", dated May 9, 1963 (French), 42. Sess. Paper 

No. 192. 
See also Agriculture Department. 

Federal-Provincial Conferences: 

1. Address,— Submissions, presentations, speeches, etc., by provincial governments or representa- 
tives to conference on Indian affairs: Mr. Howard; moved, and question being proposed, ordered 
transferred to the order of "Notices of Motions (Papers)", 55. 

2. Order, -Submissions, presentations, speeches, etc., by Canadian government or representatives 
to conference on Indian affairs: Mr. Howard; moved, and question being proposed, ordered trans- 
ferred to the order of "Notices of Motions (Papers)", 55. 

3. Letters during period Nov. 30, 1964 to Apr. 9, 1965, between Prime Minister and Premiers re 
agenda for proposed conference, 80. Sess. Paper No. 198. 

4. Letters, telegrams, etc. , between Prime Minister and Provincial Premiers re proposed conference, 
213. Sess. Paper No. 198A. 

Federal-Provincial Fiscal Arrangements Act amendment: 
See Income Tax Act amendment (C-118). 

Federal-Provincial Relations: 

See British North America Act amendment. 

Feed Grain: 

Notes of speech by Forestry Minister at Drummondville, Que., June 11, 1965, 256. Sess. Paper No. 
231. 

Finance, Monetary Policy: 

See Bank of Canada; Bank of Canada Act amendment (C-101). 

Finance, Trade and Economic Affairs Committee: 

1. Membership, 257, 285, 296. 

2. Bills referred: Bank of Canada Act amendment (Government Direction of Monetary Policy, etc.). 
Ill; Muttart Mortgage Corporation, 170; Bank Act, 246; Quebec Savings Banks Act, 246; Princi- 
pal Life Insurance Company of Canada, 250; Laurentide Bank of Canada, 290; Bank of Western 
Canada, 290; Pacific Coast Fire Insurance Company, 318. 

3. Estimates of Trade and Commerce Department referred, without notice or debate, 263. 

4. Reports: First (sittings), 287; Second (Principal Life Insurance Company of Canada Bill), 288. 

5. Reports concurred in: First, without notice, after debate, on division, 288. 

Financial Administration Act amendment: 

1. Bill C-69, Mr. Whelan (Discretionary Garnishee against Crown). 1st R., 23. 

2. Bill C-78, Mr. Fisher (Public Accounts). 1st R., 23. 



INDEX 377 

Fisheries: 

Report dated April 1965 of the Committee on Problems of Mutual Concern Related to the Conserva- 
tion and Management of Salmon Stocks in Southeast Alaska and Northern British Columbia, 90. 
Sess. Paper No. 204. Printed. 

Fisheries Act amendment: 

Bill C-21, Mr. Carter (Forfeiture Floor). 1st R., 20. 

Fisheries Committee: 

1. Membership, 257. 

2. Estimates of Fisheries Department referred, without notice or debate, 263. 

Fisheries Department: 

Estimates, Main, 1965-66, referred to Fisheries Committee, 263. 

Fisheries Improvement Loans Act: 

Report for 1964-65, 332. Sess. Paper No. 48. 

Fisheries Improvement Loans Act amendment: 

Resolution,— To increase maximum of loan to $10,000 and extend repayment period to 10 years, 
terminal date for applications to be June 30, 1970: House to consider in Committee of the Whole 
at next sitting, 197. Considered in Committee of the Whole, resolution adopted, 277. Bill C-121, 
Minister of Finance, 1st R, 2nd R, considered in Committee of the Whole, reported without 
amendment, 277. 3rd R., 283. Passed by Senate, 297. R.A., 298.14 Elizabeth II, Chapter 9, S.C. 
1965. 

Fisheries Prices Support Board: 

Report for 1964-65, 333. Sess. Paper No. 68. 

Fishermen, Confiscation of Property: 
See Fisheries Act amendment. 

Fitness and Amateur Sport Act: 

Order,-Return re money transmitted to Nova Scotia during period 1962-65: Mr. Armstrong-presented 
forthwith, 176. Sess. Paper No. 107 A. 

Flag Day of Canada Act: 

Bill C-47, Mr. Rinfret. 1st R., 22. 

Fodder, Seed Groin and Other Relief: 
See Seed Grain Indebtedness. 

Food and Drugs Committee: 

1. Motion, -To appoint to continue inquiry into costs of drugs, referral of last sessions Committee 
proceedings and evidence, power to obtain required personnel, membership to consist of 24 
members: Notice called and transferred to Government Orders for consideration later this day, 
198. Moved, and agreed to, 198. 

2. Membership, 198. 

3. Reports: First (quorum reduced), 242. 

4. Reports concurred in: First, on notice without debate, 281. 

Foreign Affairs Department Act: 

Bill C-58, Mr. Marcoux. 1st R., 22. 



Foreign Exchange Reserves, Non-convertible Local Currencies: 
See Bank of Canada Act amendment. 



Foreign Intervention in Industrial Disputes: 
See Immigration Act amendment. 



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Fort Frances, Ont., TolUBridge: 
See Bridges. 



Gambling for Charitable Purposes: 
See Criminal Code amendment. 

Garnishee of Wages (Public Service): 

See Financial Administration Act amendment. 

Gelinas, Senator Louis P.: 
See Immigrants. 

General Mortgage Corporation of Canada: 

Petition received to amend Act of incorporation to change name from General Mortgage Service Cor- 
poration of Canada to General Mortgage Corporation of Canada and the description of its bonds 
to "Series A Bonds" and "Series B Bonds", and for other purposes, 333. Reported by Examiner 
of Petitions, 333. 

General Mortgage Service Corporation of Canada: 
See General Mortgage Corporation of Canada. 

Genocide Act: 

Bill C-30, Mr. Klein. 1st R., 21. 

Government Administration Act: 

Bill C-39, Mr. Mather (Administrative Disclosure). 1st R., 21. 

Government, Administrative Decisions, Investigating: 
See Parliamentary Commissioner Act. 

Government Annuities Act: 

Report for 1964-65, 145. Sess. Paper No. 84. 

Government Contracts, Purchases, Properties, etc.: 

1. Order,— Return showing from Mar. 1, 1964 to May 1, 1965, motor vehicles purchased by Justice 
Department, manufactured or assembled in Nova Scotia, Ontario, imported from U.S., other coun- 
tries: Mr. MacLean-presented forthwith, 252. Sess. Paper No. 228. 

2. Order,— Return showing by province, National Defence contracts since 1960: Mr. Mather, 296. 

3. Order,— Return re architectural and engineering consultants employed in Ottawa area, names, 
addresses, projects: Mr. More— presented forthwith, 311. Sess. Paper No. 237. 

4. Order,— Return re contracts awarded to Canadair Ltd. in past ten years, amounts, purchases: 
Mr. Orlikow-presented forthwith, 322. Sess. Paper No. 224A. 

See also Airports; Post Office Department; Shipbuilding. 

Government Departments: 

Order,-Return re departments with French-language information service, implementing Glassco Com- 
mission recommendations: Mr. Dube— presented forthwith, 176. Sess. Paper No. 219. 

Governor-General's Communications and Messages: 
See Speaker, Mr. 

Groin Elevators: 

See Canada Grain Act amendment; Northern Ontario Pipe Line Crown Corporation Act amendment. 

Grants and Loans, External: 

Order, -Return showing in 1964 countries assisted under external aid program, amounts, contracts, 
etc.: Mr. Orlikow-presented forthwith, 176. Sess. Paper No. 220. 



INDEX 379 

Great Northern Pacific & Burlington Lines, Inc.: 

Petition received for an Act authorizing Great Northern Railway Company to merge and amalgamate 
its railway and undertakings in Canada with Northern Pacific Railway Company, Pacific Coast 
R.R. Co. and Great Northern Pacific & Burlington Lines, Inc., and for other purposes, 72. 
Reported by Examiner of Petitions, 80-1. Bill S-5, Mr. Wahn. Received from Senate, 1st R., 148. 
2nd R after debate, referred to Transport and Communications Committee, 207-8. Reported with- 
out amendment, 315. Considered in Committee of the Whole, reported without amendment, 3rd R., 
317. R.A., 330. 14 Elizabeth II, Chapter 23, S.C. 1965. 



HARP (High Altitude Research Program): 
See Space, Outer. 

Halifax International Airport: 
See Airports. 

Harbours Board: 

See National Harbours Board. 

Harbours, Wharves and Breakwaters: 

Order,— Correspondence, etc., with any person, Town Council or organization re retention of Mul- 
grave, N.S. as an alternate winter port: Mr. MacEwan, 325. 

Hate Literature: 

See Criminal Code amendment (C-16, C-117); Genocide Act; Post Office Act amendment. 

Hay Lake Indian Band: 
See Indian Affairs. 

Heakes, A.G.: 

See Bankruptcies. 

Health and Welfare Committee: 

Membership, 258. 

Health and Welfare Department: 

See National Health and Welfare Department. 

Highways: 

See Alaska-Yukon Highway Authority Act; Roads; Trans-Canada Highway. 

Hockey, National Game of Canada: 

See National Game of Canada Act. 

Hogs, Price Stabilization: 

See Exportation of the Growth and Produce of Canada Act. 

Homicide Rate: 

See Capital Punishment. 

Horses: 

Order,— Return re export of live horses for meat, regulations, government branch responsible, com- 
plaints on handling of animals: Mr. Saltsman-presented forthwith, 147. Sess. Paper No. 216. 

House of Commons: 

1. Commissioners of Internal Economy appointed, 6. 

2. Report of Internal Economy Commissioners (Feb. 18, 1964 to Apr. 3, 1965), 29. Sess. Paper No. 2. 

3. Extract from Minutes of meeting of Commissioners of Internal Economy, June 10, 1965, relating 
to classification changes affecting a number of positions in House of Commons, 231. Sess. 
Paper No. 2A. Concurred in, after debate, 329. 

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House of Commons - (Concluded) 

4. Length of Sessions: See Parliamentary Sessions Act. 

5. Rule changes: See Procedural Changes. 

6. Staff: See Parliamentary Staff Act. 

See also British North America Act amendment; Procedure; Sittings of the House. 

House of Commons Act amendment: 

Bill C-32, Mr. Whelan (Speaker on Dissolution). 1st R., 21. 

House of Commons, Quorum, increasing: 

See British North America Act amendment. 

Housing Act amendment: 

See National Housing Act, 1954, amendment. 

Housing, Urban Development and Public Works Committee: 

Membership, 258. 

I 

Immigrants: 

1. Loans to immigrants in 1964-65, 72. Sess. Paper No. 16. 

2. Return of permits issued under authority of Act for 1964, 46. Sess. Paper No. 17. 

3. Return to Order of House, dated Mar. 3, 1965, for correspondence, etc., between any Minister, 
executive assistant or department and Senator Gelinas re Harry Stonehill, 10. Sess. Paper No. 
189. 

4. Return to Order of House, dated Mar. 10, 1965, for correspondence, etc., other than between 
public servants re immigration status of Joe Bonanno, 42. Sess. Paper No. 17A. 

See also Immigration Act amendment. 

immigration: 

Order,-Correspondence between Canadian Metalmining Association, United Steelworkers of America 
and Canadian government re proposals permitting immigration of miners and skilled tradesmen: 
Mr. Orlikow, 104. Presented, 271. Sess. Paper No. 17C. 

Immigration Act amendment: 

1. Bill C-12, Mr. Ormiston (Foreign Intervention in Industrial Disputes). 1st R., 20. 2nd R moved 
and debate interrupted, 318. 

2. Bill C-13, Mr. Brewin (Disclosure of Reasons for Deportation). 1st R., 20. 

3. Bill C-23, Mr. Hahn (Mental Illness). 1st R., 21. 

4. Bill C-109, Mr. Mather (Mental Retardation). 1st R., 159. 

Impaired Driving, Compulsory Breathalizer Test: 
See Criminal Code amendment. 

Income, Guaranteed: 

Petition received from "La Societe Marquette, Inc.", Montreal, Que., submitting that the government 
can and must guarantee all Canadians sums of money as "Basic Personal Right", and for other 
purposes, report tabled that petition meets requirements of S.O. 70, 46-7. 

See also Family Allowances. 

Income Tax Act amendment: 

1. Resolution (Printed in Votes and Proceedings Notice Paper, Apr. 26, 1965) adopted, 263. Bill 
C-118, Minister of Finance, 1st R., 270. 2nd R after debate, on recorded division, 292-3. Con- 
sidered in Committee of the Whole, 293, 303. Upon appeal. Chairman's ruling confirmed by Mr. 
Deputy Speaker, 303-4. Consideration in Committee of the Whole, resumed, reported without 
amendment, 304. 3rd R moved; amendment (Mr. Knowles),— To defer and refer back to Committee 
of the Whole to reconsider clause 4: moved, and debate adjourned on motion (Mr. Mcllraith), 304. 
Debate resumed; amendment negatived on recorded division, 312-3. 3rd R agreed to on division, 
313. Passed by Senate, 326. R.A., 330. 14 Elizabeth II, Chapter 18, S.C. 1965. 



INDEX 381 

Income Tax Act amendment — (Concluded) 

2. Bill C-42, Mr. Howard (Industrial Workers). 1st R., 21. 
See also Area Development Incentives Act. 

Indian Act amendment: 

Bill C-91, Mr. Barnett (Liquor Rights). 1st R., 24. 

Indian Affairs: 

1. Number and amount of loans to Indians in 1964-65, 69. Sess. Paper No. 18. 

2. Return to Order of House, dated Mar. 3, 1965, re payments to National Indian Council, purposes, 
audits, reports concerning expenditures, 42. Sess. Paper No. 18A. 

3. Order,— Return showingfor 1963-64 federal expenditures for housing construction, repairs, family 
allowances, disability and old age pensions, other assistance, in places indicated: Mr. Laprise— 
presented forthwith, 54. Sess. Paper No. 18D. 

4. Return to Order of House, dated Mar. 3, 1965, for correspondence since Jan. 1, 1963, between 
Hay Lake Band, Alta., and Indian Affairs Branch, 189. Sess. Paper No. 18F. 

5. Order, -Return re establishing regional school at Sioux Lookout, Ont., or any other community, 
representations, etc.: Mr. Fisher-presented forthwith, 310. Sess. Paper No. 18G. 

6. Address, -Correspondence, etc., since Jan. 1, 1960, with Saskatchewan re application of medi- 
cal services to Indians: Mr, Howard, 325. 

See also Federal-Provincial Conferences. 

Indian Affairs, Human Rights and Citizenship and Immigration Committee: 

Membership, 258. 

Indian Arts and Crafts: 

See Native Indian and Eskimo Arts and Crafts Act. 

Indian Claims Act: 

1. Resolution, -To provide for disposition of Indian claims by establishing an Indian Claims Com- 
mission, provide for appeals to an Indian Claims Appeal Court, etc.: House to consider in 
Committee of the Whole at next sitting, 65. Considered in Committee of the Whole, 283. Reso- 
lution adopted, 283-4. Bill C-123, Minister of Citizenship and Immigration, 1st R., 284. 2nd R 
moved; amendment (Mr. Barnett),— To defer and consider new legislation broadening terms of re- 
ference of claims commission and appointing non-Canadian jurist as presiding officer over ap- 
peal court: moved and negatived on recorded division, 288-9. 2nd R after debate, on division, 
290. Referred to Special Joint Committee, 290-1. 

2. Return to Order of House, dated Feb. 24, 1965, for correspondence, etc., since Dec. 20, 1963, 
with any person, group or organization re Bill C-130 of First Session, Twenty-sixth Parliament, 
except those documents tabled pursuant to Notice of Motion No. 59 passed on Apr. 1, 1964, 50. 
Sess. Paper No. 18B. 

3. Return to Order of House, dated Feb. 24, 1965, for opinions of Indian Bands, Councils or indivi- 
duals re Bill C-130 of First Session, Twenty-sixth Parliament, 50. Sess. Paper No. 18C. 

4. Return to Order of House, dated Mar. 10, 1965, for minutes, notes or other writings of opinions 
of Indian Bands, Councils or individuals re Bill C-130 of First Session, Twenty-sixth Parliament, 
recorded and held by Indian affairs officers, 84. Sess. Paper No. 18E. 

Indian Claims Appeal Court: 
See Indian Claims Act. 

Indian Claims Commission: 
See Indian Claims Act. 

Indian Claims (Joint) Committee: 

1. Motion, -To appoint to consider Bill C-123, House membership to consist of 14 Members, and 
that a message be sent to the Senate: moved and after debate, agreed to, 290-1. 

2. House membership, messages to Senate, 296, 301. 

3. Senate membership, 321. 

Industrial Development Bonk Act, 1963: 

Bill C-51, Mr. Coates (Maritime Provinces). 1st R., 22. 

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Industrial Disputes: 

Order,— Return re federal assistance in settlement of strike at Canadair, sub-contracting firms, lay- 
offs, assistance: Mr. Coates-presented forthwith, 214. Sess. Paper No. 224. 

Industrial Disputes, Foreign Intervention: 
See Immigration Act amendment. 

Industrial Relations and Disputes Investigation Act: 

Report for 1964-65, 61. Sess. Paper No. 86. 

Industrial Relations and Disputes Investigation Act amendment: 

Bill C-108, Mr. Knowles (Voluntary Revocable Check-off). 1st R., 159. 

Industry Department: 

Estimates, Main, 1965-66, referred to Industry, Research and Energy Development Committee, 263. 

Industry, Research and Energy Development Committee: 

1. Membership, 259. 

2. Estimates of Industry Department referred, without notice or debate, 263. 

Insanity: 

See Criminal Code amendment. 

Inspection of Tobacco and Tobacco Products Entering into International and Interprovincial Trade: 
See Tobacco Inspection Act. 

Instalment Purchases: 

See Bills of Exchange Act amendment; Bills of Exchange Act and Interest Act amendment; Collat- 
eral Bills and Notes Act. 

Insurance, Superintendent of: 

1. Report re co-operative credit societies for 1963, 61. Sess. Paper No. 43. Printed. 

2. Report re loan and trust companies for 1963, 61. Sess. Paper No. 53. Printed. 

3. Report re small loans companies and money-lenders for 1963, 61. Sess. Paper No. 63. Printed. 

4. Report, Volume III— Annual Statements-Life insurance companies and fraternal benefit societies 
for 1963, 42. Sess. Paper No. 51. Printed. 

Interest Act amendment: 

Bill C-83, Mr. Orlikow (12 per cent). 1st R., 24. 

Interest Act and Bills of Exchange Act amendment: 

See Bi lis of Exchange Act and Interest Act amendment. 

Interest Rates: 

See Collateral Bills and Notes Act; Interest Act amendment; Small Loans Act amendment. 

Interim Supply: 

See Supply; Ways and Means. 

Internal Economy Commissioners: 
See House of Commons. 

International Bank for Reconstruction and Development: 
See Bretton Woods Agreements Act. 

International Development Association Act: 

Report on operations for 1964, 64. Sess. Paper No. 40. 

International Finance Corporation: 

See Bretton Woods Agreements Act. 



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International Labour Organization: 

Conventions and recommendations of Conference, together with letter from Deputy Attorney General 
of Canada, setting out legislative jurisdiction of international instruments, as follows: Conven- 
tions re hygiene in commerce and offices, benefits in case of employment injury, employment 
policy, 316. Sess. Paper No. 87. Printed. 

International Monetary Fund: 

See Bretton Woods Agreements Act. 

Interprovincial Pipe Line Company: 

Petition received to amend Act of incorporation authorizing Company to subdivide its shares and 
change their par value, and for other purposes, 72. Reported by Examiner of Petitions, 81. Bill 
S-7, Mr. Wahn. Received from Senate, 1st R., 148. 2nd R after debate, 208, 289, referred to Trans- 
port and Communications Committee, 289. Reported without amendment, 315. 

Investment in Canada: 

See Canada Development Corporation. 



Japan: 

See Canada- Japan Relations. 



Judas-Tree Amendment: 

See Criminal Code amendment. 

Judges Act amendment: 

Resolution,— To provide salaries for two additional judges of the Supreme Court of Ontario, one 
additional judge of the Supreme Court of New Brunswick and one additional judge of the County 
Court of Ontario: House to consider in Committee of the Whole at next sitting, 282. Considered 
in Committee of the Whole, 304, 305. 

Judicial Proceedings, Restricting Publication of: 
See Criminal Code amendment. 

Justice, Administration of: 

1. Legal aid, consideration to advisability of calling conference of Attorneys General: motion (Mr. 
Brewin) moved, and after debate, ordered that motion retain its precedence on Order Paper, 80. 
Debate resumed and interrupted, 104-5. 

2. Order, -Return re criminal offences in last ten years, percentage unsolved, convictions, peni- 
tentiaries population, correctional policy, etc.: Mr. Matheson, 251-2. 

See also Parole Board. 

Justice and Legal Affairs Committee: 

1. Membership, 259. 

2. Estimates of Justice Department referred, without notice or debate, 263. 

Justice Department: 

1. Estimates, Main, 1965-66, referred to Justice and Legal Affairs Committee, 263. 

2. Address, -Letter dated on or about Dec. 30, 1964, from Quebec Revenue Minister to Justice 
Minister concerning Member for Saint-Jean-Iberville-Napierville: Mr. Coates, 76. 

See also Government Contracts, Purchases, etc. 

Juvenile Delinquents Act amendment: 

1. Bill C-7, Mr. Howe (Hamilton South) (Application to Mentally Retarded). 1st R., 20. 2nd R moved 
and debate interrupted, 278-9. 

2. Bill C-89, Mr. Howard (Confinement with Adults). 1st R., 24. 



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Labour: 

See International Labour Organization. 

Labour and Employment Committee: 

1. Membership, 259, 293. 

2. Estimates of Labour Department referred, without notice or debate, 263. 

Labour Department: 

Estimates, Main, 1965-66, referred to Labour and Employment Committee, 263. 
See also National Employment Service. 

Labour (Standards) Code: 

See Canada Labour (Standards) Code, etc. 

Lacrosse, Notional Game of Canada: 
See Canada's National Game Act. 

Land Purchases: 

See Government Contracts, Purchases, etc. 

Laurentide Bank of Canada: 

Petition received for an Act to incorporate under English and French version of name, and for other 
purposes, 17. Reported by Examiner of Petitions, 30. Bill C-95, Mr. Basford. Tabled, 1st R., 31. 
2nd R moved and debate interrupted, 57. Debate resumed; amendment (Mr. Belanger),-"This day 
six months hence": moved and debate interrupted, 123. Debate resumed and interrupted, 154, 
218. Debate resumed, amendment negatived, 289-90. 2nd R after debate, referred to Finance, 
Trade and Economic Affairs Committee, 290. 



Lawyers Employed by CMHC in Toronto: 

See Central Mortgage and Housing Corporation. 



Library, National: 

See National Library. 

Library of Parliament: 

Report of Librarian, 7-10. 

See also Parliamentary Staff Act. 

Library of Parliament (Joint) Committee: 
Senate membership, 13. 

Lippe, Judge Rene: 

See Maritime Transportation Unions Board of Trustees. 



Liquor Rights (Indians): 

See Indian Act amendment. 



Loan and Trust Companies Report: 
See Insurance, Superintendent of. 

Loans to Municipalities: 

See National Housing Act, 1954, amendment. 

Lotteries: 

See Sweepstakes and Lotteries. 



INDEX 385 



Macdonald, Sir John A.: 

See Sir John A. Macdonald Day Act. 

Mail Deliveries: 

See Post Office Department. 

Maritime Transportation Unions Board of Trustees: 

Letter dated June 3, 1965, to Labour Minister by Judge Rene Lippe, Chairman of Board of Trustees 
re Canadian Seafarers' Building Corporation, Ltd., 205. Sess. Paper No. 88A. 

Marriage Act: 

Bill C-26, Mr. Matheson (Age of Marriage). 1st R., 21. 

Marriage, Annulment and Dissolution of: 
See Divorce. 

Members of Parliament: 

See Royal Commissions. 

Members of Parliament, indemnity increase: 

See Senate and House of Commons Act and the Members of Parliament Retiring Allowances Act 
amendment. 

Members of Parliament Retiring Allowances Act amendment: 

See Senate and House of Commons Act and the Members of Parliament Retiring Allowances Act 
amendment; Senators Retirement Act. 

Mentally Retarded Delinquents: 

See Juvenile Delinquents Act amendment. 

Midland Railway Company of Manitoba: 

See Great Northern Pacific & Burlington Lines, Inc. 

Mineral Rights (Off-shore): 

See Supreme Court of Canada. 

Mint, Royal Canadian: 

1. Report of Master for 1964, 173. Sess. Paper No. 56. Printed. 

2. Order,— Names of those who acquired 1965 coin sets between Jan. 1-10, 1965: Mr. Langlois, 
77. Presented, 139. Sess. Paper No. 56A. 

Miscellaneous Estimates Committee: 

Membership, 260. 

Miscellaneous Private Bills Committee: 

1. Membership, 260. 

2. Bills referred: Presbyterian Church in Canada, Trustee Board of. Evangelistic Tabernacle Incor- 
porated, 317. 

Monetary Policy: 

See Bank of Canada; Bank of Canada Act amendment (C-101). 

Montreal World Exhibition: 
See Expo '67. 

Morris Provincial Constituency, Sask.: 
See Roads. 

Motor Vehicles: 

See Government Contracts, Purchases, etc. 



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Mulgrave, N.S., Winter Port: 

See Harbours, Wharves and Breakwaters. 

Municipal Development and Loan Board: 

Report on operations for 1964-65, with auditor's report, 331. Sess. Paper No. 57. Printed. 

Municipalities: 

Order,— Return re drainage projects, counties, municipalities, amounts: Mr. Gauthier— presented forth- 
with, 282. Sess. Paper No. 232. 

Municipalities, Federal Aid: 

See National Housing Act, 1954, amendment. 

Muttart Mortgage Corporation: 

See Cambrian Mortgage Corporation. 



NATO: 

See North Atlantic Treaty Organization. 

National Anthem Act: 

Bill C-55, Mr. Ryan. 1st R., 22. 

National Capitol Act amendment: 

Bill C-84, Mr. Francis (Tenure of Office). 1st R., 24. 

National Capital Commission; 

Capital budget for 1965-66, 181. Sess. Paper No. 133B. 
See also Ottawa Terminal Railway Company Act. 

National Defence Committee: 

1. Membership, 260. 

2. Estimates of Defence Production Department referred, without notice or debate, 263. 

3. Estimates of National Defence Department referred, without notice or debate, 263. 

National Defence Department: 

1. Receipts and disbursements in special account (Replacement of Material) for 1964-65, 332. Sess. 
Paper No. 99. 

2. Estimates, Main, 1965-66, referred to National Defence Committee, 263. 

3. Order,— Return showing since Jan. 1, 1964, goods sold from Point Edward Naval Base, names, 
amounts: Mr. Muir (Cape Breton North and Victoria)— presented forthwith, 125. Sess. Paper No. 
209. 

4. Order, -Return re HMCS Dockyard, Halifax, prevailing rates employees, pay rates, increases, 
exclusions, reasons, driver- operators classification, comparing with British Columbia: Mr. 
Douglas— presented forthwith, 244. Sess. Paper No. 227. 

5. Order,— Return re Halifax-Dartmouth area prevailing rates employees, pay rates, increases, reasons 
increases not granted effective Jan. 1, 1964, exclusions, heavy equipment operators classifi- 
cation, comparing with British Columbia: Mr. Douglas-presented forthwith, 244-5. Sess. Paper 
No. 227A. 

6. Order, -Return showing participants in World War I and II, statistics: Mr. Tucker, 253. 

7. Order, -Return showing since 1950 defence expenditures in British Columbia: Mr. Deachman— 
presented forthwith, 310. Sess. Paper No. 97A. 

8. Order, -Return re HMCS Shearwater, motor transport branch, working conditions, salaries, com- 
petitions, etc.: Mr. Douglas-presented forthwith, 311-2. Sess. Paper No. 236. 

See also Government Contracts, etc. 



INDEX 387 



National Employment Service: 

Order, -Return re transfer to Labour Department, Civil Service staff associations meetings with 
Minister, directives or instructions to field offices, salary increases, fitness reviews, open 
competitions for senior positions, Civil Service Commission authority concerning reclassifica- 
tion of positions, directives requiring future officers positions to be filled by university graduates, 
etc.: Mr. Fisher-presented forthwith, 242-3. Sess. Paper No. 140A. 

National Energy Board: 

Report on activities for 1964, 46. Sess. Paper No. 156. Printed. 

Notional Flog Day: 

See Flag Day of Canada Act. 

Notional Gome of Canada Act: 

Bill C-73, Mr. Roxburgh (Hockey). 1st R., 23. 

National Harbours Board: 

See Expo '67. 

Notional Health and Welfare Department: 

Order,-Return showing research expenditures into cigarette smoking: Mr. Howe (Wellington-Huron)- 
presented forthwith, 176. Sess. Paper No. 221. 

National Housing Act, 1954, amendment: 

Resolution, -To increase Central Mortgage and Housing Corporation funds for purpose of making 
loans for houses and housing projects, urban renewal schemes, university housing projects, 
etc.: House to consider in Committee of the WTiole at next sitting, 32. Considered in Committee 
of the Whole, 50, 107-8. Resolution adopted, 108. Bill C- 104, Minister of Citizenship and Immigra- 
tion, 1st R., 108. 2nd R, considered in Committee of the Whole, reported without amendment, 
111. 3rd R., 116. Passed by Senate, 151. R.A., 181. 14 Elizabeth II, Chapter 3, S.C. 1965. 

Notional Indian Council: 
See Indian Affairs. 

Notional Library: 

Report of Librarian for 1964-65, 332. Sess. Paper No. 146. 



National Parole Board: 
See Parole Board. 

Notional Research Council: 

See Research Council Act amendment. 

Notional Revenue Deportment: 
See Customs Act. 

National Training Service: 

Commission to study, considering advisability of appointing: motion (Mr. Laniel) moved and debate 
interrupted, 245. 

Native Cultural Council of Canada: 

See Native Indian and Eskimo Arts and Crofts Act. 

Native Indian and Eskimo Arts and Crofts Act: 

Bill C-4, Mr. Howard. 1st R., 20. 2nd R moved and debate interrupted, 112. 

Natural Resources Refunds Act: 

See Refunds (Natural Resources) Act. 

News Sources Protection Act: 

Bill C-11, Mr. Fisher (Press Privilege). 1st R., 20. 

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Newspapers: 

See Publications. 

North Atlantic Treaty Organization: 

Final communique issued following ministerial meeting of North Atlantic Council in London, May 
11-12, 1965, 111. Sess. Paper No. 207. (Printed as appendix to Hansard of May 14, 1965). 

Northern Affairs and National Resources Committee: 

Membership, 261. 

Northern Canada Power Commission: 

Capital budget for 1965-66, 173. Sess. Paper No. 122A. 

Northern Ontario Pipe Line Crown Corporation: 

Report for 1964, with auditor's report, 250. Sess, Paper No. 157. 
See also Crown Corporation Bilingual Names Act. 

Northern Ontario Pipe Line Crown Corporation Act amendment: 

Bill C-77, Mr. Rapp (Tisdale Grain Elevator). 1st R., 23. 

Northern Transportation Company Limited: 

Report for 1964, with auditor's report, 16. Sess. Paper No. 153. Printed. 
See also Crown Corporations Bilingual Names Act. 

Notices of Motions Debated: 

See Private Members' Resolutions debated. 

Nowlan, the late Hon. George Clyde, M.P.: 

House adjourns in memory of, 165. 



Oaths of Allegiance Act amendment: 

Bill C-19, Mr. Howe (Hamilton South) (Affirmation). 1st R., 20. 

Oaths of Office Bill (Pro forma): 

Bill C-1, Prime Minister, Act respecting Administration of Oaths of Office, 1st R., 2. 

Okanogan Helicopters Ltd.: 
See Air Transport Board. 

Old Age Security Act amendment: 

See Family Allowances Act and the Old Age Security Act amendment. 

Ombudsman: 

See Parliamentary Commissioner Act. 

Orders in Council: 

Summaries of Orders passed during February 1965, 46. Sess. Paper No. 128. 
See also Statutory Orders and Regulations. 

Ottawa, Ont.: 

1. Petition received from tenants and staff of Roxborough re demolition of Roxborough and Union 
Station, report tabled that petition meets requirements of S.O. 70, 69. 

2. Order, -Correspondence, etc., since 1954 between National Capital Commission, government, 
departments, organizations or persons re moving of Union Station: Mr, Howard for Mr. Peters, 
55. Presented, 80. Sess. Paper No. 133A. 

See also Adjournment to Discuss Matter of Urgent Public Importance; Government Contracts, etc. 

Ottawa, Ont., Relocation of Railways: 

See Ottawa Terminal Railway Company Act. 



INDEX 389 



Ottawa Terminal Railway Company Act: 

Bill S-3, Minister of Transport. Received from Senate, 297. 1st R., 301. 

Outer Space: 

See Space, Outer. 



Pacific Coast Fire Insurance Company: 

See Century Insurance Company of Canada. 

Packaging, Accurate Indication of Contents: 
See Weights and Measures Act amendment. 

Parliament, Mandatory Term: 

See British North America Act amendment (C-107). 

Parliamentary Commissioner Act: 

Bill C-61, Mr. Thompson. 1st R., 22. 

Parliamentary Library: 

See Library of Parliament. 

Parliamentary Restaurant (Joint) Committee: 

Senate membership, 13. 

Parliamentary Sessions Act: 

Bill C-76, Mr. Ryan. 1st R., 23. 

Parliamentary Staff Act: 

Bill C-53, Mr. Aiken. 1st R., 22. 

Parole Board: 

Order,— Reports submitted to Justice Department re Leopold Dion case: Mr. Marcoux, 176. 

Penitentiaries: 

1. Juveniles in: See Juvenile Delinquents Act amendment (C-89). 

2. Order,— Communications, etc., during 1964-65 between Justice Minister and correctional organi- 
zations re decision to build special security institutions: Mr. Orlikow, 127. 

3. Order, -Habitual criminals sentenced to preventive detention, statistics: Mr. Orlikow, 147-8. 
See also Justice, Administration of; Penitentiaries (Joint) Committee. 

Penitentiaries (Joint) Committee: 

1. Motion,— To appoint to consider state of penitentiaries and government plans in relation thereto. 
House membership to consist of 15 members, and that a message be sent to the Senate: Notice 
called and transferred to Government Orders, 33. Moved and debate interrupted, 118-9. Debate 
resumed, motion agreed to, 276-7. 

2. Senate membership, 321-2. 

Pensions: 

See Canadian National Railways; Public Service; Public Service Superannuation Act amendment; 
Senators Retirement Act; Social Security. 

Periodicals: 

See Publications. 

Petitions, Reports on: 

See Clerk of Petitions. 

Piers: 

See Harbours, Wharves and Breakwaters. 

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Point Edward Naval Base: 

See National Defence Department. 

Poitras, Sub-Inspector J.H.M.: 

See Royal Canadian Mounted Police. 

Political Broadcasting, Free Time on C.B.C.: 
See Canadian Broadcasting Corporation. 

Political Programs (Broadcasting): 
See Broadcasting Act amendment. 

Polymer Corporation Limited: 

See Crown Corporations; Crown Corporations Bilingual Names Act. 

Pope Commission of inquiry (P.p. A. A.): 
See Prairie Farm Assistance Act. 

Post Office Act amendment: 

Bill C-43, Mr. Orlikow (Hate Literature). 1st R., 22. 

Post Office Department: 

1. Return to Order of House, dated Mar. 31, 1965, for copy of lease agreement with Rogers Stores 
Limited, Rimbey, Alta., 87. Sess. Paper No. 127A. 

2. Order,— Correspondence, etc. , between Postmaster General or assistants and Mr. Jean-Luc Pepin, 
M.P., re home delivery in Arthabaska: Mr. Langlois, 78. Presented, 109. Sess. Paper No. 127B. 

3. Order,— Correspondence, etc., between Postmaster General and Mr. Raynald Guay, M.P., re home 
delivery in Charny, County of Levis: Mr. Langlois, 78. Presented, 112. Sess. Paper No. 127C. 

4. Order,— Correspondence with Mayor Chouinard re offers of land, rented premises or construction 
applications for post office in Saint-Jean-Port-Joli: Mr. Ricard, 177. 

Power, Bernard: 

See Transport Department. 

Prairie Farm Assistance Act: 

Motion,— That recommendations contained in Commission of Inquiry (Pope) Report be referred to 
Agriculture and Colonization Committee: Notice called and transferred to Government Orders, 
33. 

See also Speaker's Rulings, etc. 

Prairie Farm Rehabilitation Act: 

Report on activities for 1963-64, 332. Sess. Paper No. 14. Printed. 

Presbyterian Church in Canada, The Trustee Board of The: 

Petition received to amend Act of incorporation authorizing the Board to fix its membership, and 
for other purposes, 113. Reported by Examiner of Petitions, 120. Bill S-10, Mr. Cameron (High 
Park). Received from Senate, 1st R., 297. 2nd R after debate, referred to Miscellaneous Private 
Bills Committee, 317. 



Principal Life Insurance Company of Canada: 

Petition received for an Act to incorporate under English and French version of name, and for other 
purposes, 113. Reported by Examiner of Petitions, 119. Bill S-9, Mr. Lambert. Received from 
Senate, 1st R., 162. 2nd R after debate, referred to Finance, Trade and Economic Affairs Com- 
mittee, 249-50. Reported without amendment, 288. Considered in Committee of the Whole, re- 
ported without amendment, 3rd R., 317. R.A., 330. 14 Elizabeth H, Chapter 21, S.C. 1965. 

Printing of Parliament (Joint) Committee: 
Senate membership, 13. 



INDEX 391 

Private Members' Resolutions debated: 

1. Water Pollution Control Division, consideration to advisability of creating: motion (Mr. Herridge), 
moved and debate interrupted, 56. 

2. Youth extension program of the Parliament of Canada, consideration to advisability of under- 
writing: motion (Mr. Bell), moved and debate interrupted, 66. 

3. Legal aid in criminal cases, consideration of advisability of calling conference of Attorneys 
General: motion (Mr. Brewin), moved, and after debate, ordered that motion retain its precedence 
on Order Paper, 80. Debate resumed and interrupted, 104-5. 

4. Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, free political time to all parties on equal basis, considering 
advisability of: motion (Mr. Marcoux), moved and debate interrupted, 118. 

5. Estate Tax Act, amending to provide for payment of assessments by instalments to reduce num- 
ber of "forced sale" liquidations: motion (Mr. Hales), moved and debate interrupted, 129. 

6. Air and water pollution, considering tax concessions on preventive equipment: motion (Mr. Hahn), 
moved and debate interrupted, 150. 

7. University graduates, slowing down emigration to U.S. by granting tax-free period equivalent to 
time spent on post-graduate studies, considering advisability of: motion (Mr. Moreau), moved 
and debate interrupted, 180. 

8. Questions on notice, form and content, establishing special committee to revise S.O. 39(1): 
motion (Mr. Francis), moved and debate interrupted, 201. 

9. Farm machinery prices, considering advisability of appointing Royal Commission to investigate: 
motion (Mr. Rapp), moved and debate interrupted, 214-5. 

10. National training service, considering advisability of appointing commission to study: motion 
(Mr. Laniel), moved and debate interrupted, 245. 

11. Vancouver international airport, considering advisability of building a bridge or tunnel to: motion 
(Mr. Prittie), moved and debate interrupted, 254. 

12. West Indies, Eastern Caribbean Federation, establishing free trade with: motion (Mr. Macquarrie), 
moved and debate interrupted, 283. 

13. Expropriation Act, amending to provide greater protection for citizens: motion (Mr. Thompson), 
moved and debate interrupted, 313. 

Privileged Communications: 

See Canada Evidence Act amendment. 

Privileges and Elections Committee: 
Membership, 261. 

Procedural Changes: 

1. Resolution (Prime Minister),— That Standing Committees undertake detailed examination of esti- 
mates; business of supply be limited to 36 days of House time; opportunity for opposition to 
select departments to be discussed; Special House Committee of 22 Members be appointed to 
prepare and submit changes to Standing Orders consequential upon this order. And, that, Stand- 
ing Orders be amended by adding S.O. 15-A concerning Business Committee and allocation of 
time procedure: Notice called and transferred to Government Orders, 97-8. Moved, and debate 
adjourned, 128-9. Debate resumed, 131-2, 133-4; amendment (Mr. Knowles),— To exclude supple- 
mentary estimates and supply motions from business of supply: moved, 134; subamendment 
(Mr. Olson),— To add, further supplementary estimates, dollar items, etc.: moved and debate 
interrupted, 134. Debate resumed and interrupted, 137-9, 141-5, 148-9, 152-3. Debate resumed, 
154; subamendment and amendment withdrawn, 155; amendment (Mr. MacEachen),— Alloted 
time of 30 days for business of supply excepting supplementaries introduced after main esti- 
mates or final supplementaries, supply motions to be reduced from 6 to 4, membership of 
Special Committee to be raised to 24; S.O. 15-A be amended by adding section (7), time limit 
of 5 days for bill, precedence, etc., extension of adjournment hour until party representatives 
speak, and section (8), two additional days for amendment requiring particular discussion, 
and, that, changes be effective until end of next ensuing session: moved and agreed to, 155-6; 
amendment (Mr. Coates),— That proposals shall not become effective until permanent Speaker 
appointed: moved and ruled out of order, 156-7; amendment (Mr. Brewin), — Time limit on 
speeches: moved and debate interrupted, 157. Debate resumed, 167-9; subamendment (Mr, Aiken),— 
Time limit of 20-minutes for all except Prime Minister, Leader of the Opposition, etc.: moved 
and debate interrupted, 169. Debate resumed and interrupted, 170-3, 178-80. Debate resumed, 
183-5; subamendment negatived on recorded division, 186. Debate resumed, 187-9; amendment 
withdrawn, 189; amendment (Mr. MacNaught),— Definition of allocation of time: moved and debate 
interrupted, 189. Debate resumed, 191-3; amendment agreed to on recorded division, 193-4; amend- 



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Procedural Changes - (Concluded) 

merit (Mr. Bell),— Allocation of time, basing on 60% of vote: moved and debate interrupted, 194. 
Debate resumed and interrupted, 199-200, 201-3, 205-7. Debate resumed, 208-10; amendment 
withdrawn, 210. By unanimous consent on Motions (Mr. Mcllraith) paragraph 2, re supply pro- 
ceedings, of Order No. 14 was referred to a Special Committee, and paragraph 3 was renumbered 
as paragraph 2, 210. Main motion as amended, agreed to, 210-1. Ordered printed as appendix to 
Hansard and Votes and Proceedings of June 11, 1965, 229. Reprinted in corrected form, June 14, 
1965, 231. 

2. Resolution (Prime Minister),-That the following amendments be made to Standing Orders: No. 6, 
hours of sitting, vote not to be taken between certain hours; No. 12, Speaker's rulings; No. 15, 
order of business, private members hour; No. 31, 20-minute speeches during private members 
hour; No. 39, questions on Orders of the Day, 30-minute time limit, opportunity to raise subject 
at adjournment time; No. 41-A, new, notice to Speaker of questions of privilege; No. 43, motions 
under S.O. 15(2) adjourned or interrupted, transferring to Government Orders; No. 44, question 
under debate, receiving motion to extend sitting; No. 59, Chairman's decisions, appealing to 
Speaker, not debatable; No. 65, increasing membership of Striking Committee, reorganization of 
Standing Committees, quorum, powers, members not belonging to Committee participating in 
meetings; No. 99 and No. 105, change of Committee names: House to consider in Committee of 
the Whole at next sitting, 98-103. Considered in Committee of the Whole, 211, 214, 218, 223. 
Resolution adopted with amendments, 224-9. Ordered printed as appendix to Hansard and Votes 
and Proceedings of June 11, 1965, 229. Reprinted in corrected form, June 14, 1965, 231. 

3. Questions on notice, form and content, establishing special committee to revise S.O. 39(1): motion 
(Mr. Francis) moved and debate interrupted, 201. 

See also Procedures Committee (Special). 

Procedure: 

Address Debate: 

Ordered, by unaminous consent, that debate be concluded in six days instead of eight, 35. 
Ordered, that the Speech from the Throne be considered later on opening day, 6. 

Adjournment Hour: 

See Adjournment Motion Proceedings Under Provincial S.O. 39-A. 

Adjournment Motion Proceedings under Provincial S.O. 39-A: 
Deferred, 46. 

Allocation of Time: 

See Procedural Changes. 

Bills, Government (Resolution amending): 

Resolution recommended by the Governor-General to amend money provision in Bill before House, 
considered forthwith in Committee of the Whole, adopted and referred to Committee of the 
Whole on Bill C-98 (Senators Retirement), 117-8. 

Bills, Government (Resolutions preceding): 
Appropriation Bills, see Supply Bills. 

Resolutions preceding government bills ordered for consideration at next sitting but taken up 
and adopted in same sitting, bills presented, given three readings and passed, 32-3, 37-8. 

Bills, Government; Second Reading Amendments: 
See Amendments. 



Bills, Government; Second Reading Orders: 

Given second reading after debate. Special Joint Committee set up to consider same, 290-1. 

Bills, Government; Third Reading Amendments: 
See Amendments. 

Bills, Government; Third Reading Orders: 
Debate thereon adjourned, 304. 



INDEX 393 

Procedure - (Continued) 

Bills, Private; Originated in House: 

Introduced in House and given first reading, 31, 53. 

Bills, Private; First Reading Orders: 

Given first reading before being reported by Examiner of Petitions, 322. 

Bills, Private; Second Reading Amendments: 
See Amendments. 

Bills, Public (Private Members); Introduction: 
Introduced and 1st reading en bloc, 19-24. 

Bills, Public (Private Members); Second Reading Orders: 

Debated and interrupted on expiry of hour (8), 64, 86, 112, 139, 194, 230, 290, 318. 
Stood, when called, 63, 86, 112, 194, 290, 318. 

Business of the House; Order of: 
See Procedural Changes. 

Committee Reports: 

Motion for concurrence adjourned or interrupted, transferring to Government Orders: See Proced- 
ural Changes. 

Committees, Special, Joint; Orders of Reference: 

Bill C-123, Indian Claims Act to Joint Committee set up to consider same, 290-1. 

Committees, Special; Orders of Reference : 

Notice of Motion to appoint Food and Drugs Committee transferred to Government Orders for con- 
sideration later same day, 198. 

Committees, Special; Reports: 

French version of report amended, 229. 

"Presenting Reports by Standing and Special Committees", House reverts to, 256. 

Committees, Standing; Membership: 

Motion reducing membership of External Affairs Committee to twenty-four, 191. 

Committees, Standing; Orders of Reference: 
Estimates referred to Committees, 163, 263. 

Committees, Standing; Reports: 

Concurrence in: See under names of particular Standing Committees (For list, see Journals pages 

191, 256-62, 322). 
"Presenting Reports by Standing and Special Committees", House reverts to, 256. 



Government Motions: 

Referring a section of to Special Committee, 210. 
See also Amendments; Speaker's Rulings, etc. 



Government Orders: 

Resolution appearing on Order Paper amended by unanimous consent, 108. 

Motions: 

"That member be now heard", negatived on recorded division, 58-9, 66-7. 

Motions for Papers: 

Notices of, allowed to stand, 54, 77, 104, 127, 148, 176, 214, 253, 324. 
Returns to, tabled forthwith, 78. 



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Procedure - (Concluded) 

Motions (Papers): 

Cases transferred for debate under S.O. 47; 55 (2), 74-7 (4), 127, 177. 
Debate thereon interrupted, 133, 263. 
Stood when called, 132, 263. 
See also Procedural Changes. 

"Motions" under Daily Routine: 

Consent to revert to later this day, 316. 

House reverts to, 27, 35, 91, 127, 162, 187, 198, 211, 219, 263, 285, 293, 318. 

Orders of the Day, Questions on: 

See Adjournment Motion Proceedings Under Provisional S.O. 39-A; Procedural Changes. 

Private Members Business Hour: 

Deferred or suspended, 71, 162, 187, 297, 304, 326. 
See also Procedural Changes. 

Private Members Motions: 

Debate cases (13), 56, 66, 80, 104-5, 118, 129, 150, 180, 201, 214-5, 245, 254, 283, 313. 

Dropped under S.O. 48(1) on second call, 79. 

Stood (by unanimous consent) after debate, retaining its precedence on Order Paper, 80. 

Stood on first call, 56 (4), 118, 214 (2), 283. 

Stood on second call, 118, 150. 

Questions Made Orders for Returns: 

Returns to, tabled forthwith, 54(3), 73-4, 89 (2), 103, 115-6(3), 125-6 (6), 147, 175-6 (5), 213-4 (3), 
242-5 (6), 252, 254 (supplementary), 282-3 (3), 296, 310-2 (5), 322-4 (6). 

Questions of Privilege: 

See Procedural Changes. 

Questions on Order Paper: 
See Procedural Changes. 

Sittings of the House: 

Adjourned on question put, 10, 165, 333. 
During dinner hour, 35. 

Suspended until call of Chair (Royal Assent), 329. 
See also Sittings of the House. 

Standing Orders Amended: 
See Procedural Changes. 

Supply Motions: 

Ten departments entered instead of six under Supply Order No. 1, 93. 
See also Amendments. 

Vote: 

Specified time for: See Procedural Changes. 

Procedures Committee (Special): 

1. Motion (Mr. Mcllraith),-That paragraph 2 of Order No. 14 re amendment to Standing Orders con- 
cerning new S.O. 15-A, Business Committee, be referred for consideration and be reported by 
Friday, June 11, 1965, agreed to, 210. Reported, 219. Concurred in, on recorded division, 219-23. 
Ordered printed as appendix to //ansarc/and Fo^esanc/Proceec//n^s of June 11, 1965, 229. Reprinted 
in corrected form, June 14, 1965, 231. 

2. Membership, 211, 217. 

3. Reports: First (new S.O. 15-A), 219. 

4. Reports concurred in: First, after debate, on recorded division, 219-23. 



INDEX 395 

Promissory Notes and Bills: 

See Collateral Bills and Notes Act. 

Properties, Purchases, Contracts, etc. (Federal): 

See Government Contracts, Purchases, etc; Post Office Department; Public Works. 

Protection of News Sources (Press Privilege): 
See News Sources Protection Act. 

Protocols: 

See Agreements, etc. 

Provinces: 

1. Press Release dated Apr. 23, 1965, by External Affairs Minister entitled "The Provinces and 
Treaty-Making Powers" ordered printed as appendix to Votes and Proceedings of Apr. 26, 1965, 
45-6. 

2. Cultural exchanges: See Agreements, Protocols, etc. 

Provincial Lotteries: 

See Criminal Code amendment. 

Public Accounts Committee: 

Membership, 261. 

See also Financial Administration Act amendment. 

Public Documents, Access to: 

See Government Administration Act. 

Public Service: 

1. Order,— Correspondence, etc., since Jan. 1964 between any superannuated civil servants associa- 
tion or others and Prime Minister or government re increase in superannuation: Mr. Coates, 104. 

2. Return to Order of House, dated Mar. 24, 1965, for communications since Apr. 8, 1963, received 
by Prime Minister re pensions of retired civil servants, 112. Sess. Paper No. 208. 

3. Order, -Return re total civil servants throughout Canada, number in each department. Crown 
corporation, bilingual, unilingual: Mr. Rondeau, 252. Presented, 298-9. Sess. Paper No. 140B. 

See also Civil Service Commission; Financial Administration Act amendment; Government Depart- 
ments. 

Public Service, non-reappointment without notice: 
See Criminal Code amendment (C-33). 

Public Service Superannuation Act amendment: 

Resolution,— To amend certain Acts respecting superannuation of persons in Public Service, Canadian 
Forces and Royal Canadian Mounted Police: House to consider in Committee of the Whole at 
next sitting, 33. By unanimous consent, considered in Committee of the Whole same sitting, 
resolution adopted, 37. Bill C-97, Minister of Finance, 1st R, 2nd R, considered in Committee 
of the Whole, reported without amendment, 3rd R., 38. Passed by Senate, 125. R.A., 181. 14 Eliz- 
abeth n. Chapter 5, S.C. 1965. 

Public Works: 

1. Saint-Jean-Port-Joli, Post Office for: See Post Office Department. 

2. Order, -Return re winter works projects in Villeneuve County during 1962-65, value of each 
project and federal share: Mr. Caouette-presented forthwith, 54. Sess. Paper No. 195. 

See also Post Office Department. 

Publications, Non-Canadian Newspapers and Periodicals, Tax Measures: 
See Customs Tariff amendment; Income Tax Act amendment. 

Purchases, Properties, Contracts, etc. (Federal): 

See Government Contracts, Purchases, etc.; Post Office Department; Public Works. 



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Quebec, Educational Arrangements with France: 

Address, -Correspondence, briefs, etc., between Canada and France: Mr. Martineau— presented forth- 
with, 78. Sess. Paper No. 199. 

Quebec Legislative Council: 

See British North America Act amendment. 

Quebec Savings Banks Act: 

Resolution,- To provide for the decennial revision of the Quebec Savings Banks Act, extension of 
powers of savings banks until July 1, 1975, and for certain changes in administration of Act: 
House to consider in Committee of the Whole at next sitting, 32. Considered in Committee of the 
Whole, resolution adopted, on division, 84. Bill C-103, Minister of Finance, 1st R., on division, 
84. 2nd R, referred to Finance, Trade and Economic Affairs Committee, 246. 

See also Bank Act and Quebec Savings Banks Act amendment; Bank of Canada Act amendment 
(C-lOl). 

Queen Elizabeth II: 

Motion (Mr. Pearson),— That Mr. Speaker convey a message of birthday greetings, agreed to, 137. 



Racial Discrimination: 

See Criminal Code amendment (C-16, C-117); Genocide Act; Post Office Act amendment. 

Radio Act amendment: 

Bill C-57, Mr. Fisher (Community Antenna). 1st R., 22. 

"Radio-Canada" Title for C.B.C.: 

See Broadcasting Act amendment. 

Rail-Line Abandonment: 

See Railway Act amendment. 

Railway Act amendment: 

1. Bill C-20, Mr. Southam (Abandonment Moratorium). 1st R., 20. 

2. Bill C-34, Mr. Prittie (Returns, Additional Copy for Parliament). 1st R., 21. 

3. Bill C-48, Mr. Fisher (Responsibility for Dislocation Costs). 1st R., 22. 
See also Transport Act and Railway Act amendment. 

Railway Commuter Service: 
See Toronto, Ont. 

Railway Employees Dislocation Costs: 
See Railway Act amendment. 

Railway Passenger Traffic: 

See Canadian Pacific Railway Company. 

Railway Relocation Plan: 

See Ottawa Terminal Railway Company Act. 

Railways: 

Order, -Correspondence between Prime Minister and/or Transport Minister and railway Presidents 
re subsidy to meet increased labour costs: Mr. Orlikow, 127. Presented, 247. Sess. Paper No. 
163B. 

Refunds (Natural Resources) Act: 

Statement on refunds, 69. Sess. Paper No. 124. 



INDEX 397 



Research Council Act amendment: 

Resolution, -To change the formal title of the National Research Council, authorize the operation 
of a national science library, etc.: House to consider in Committee of the Whole at next sitting, 
152. 

Restriction on Publication of Judicial Proceedings: 
See Criminal Code amendment. 

Restrictive Trade Practices Commission: 

Report re acquisition by Thompson Newspaper Group in 1962 of the Times-Journal newspaper. Fort 
William, Ont., 50. Sess. Paper No. 81A. Printed. 

Returns Ordered: (List of Returns unanswered at end of session) 
See also index entries by subject-matter. 

Part I-Motions for Papers 

1. Dupuis, Hon. Yvon, letter from Quebec Revenue Minister to Justice Minister: Mr. Coates (Motion 
for Papers No. 7), 76. 

2. Fort Frances, Ont., toll-bridge, representations made since 1945 by Member from Kenora-Rainy 
River: Mr. Fisher (Motion for Papers No. 11), 55. 

3. Constitution of Canada, correspondence between Justice Minister and Attorneys-General or pro- 
vincial Ministers: Mr. Brewin (Motion for Papers No. 13), 103-4. 

4. Penitentiaries, habitual criminals, statistics: Mr. Orlikow (Motion for Papers No. 15), 147-8. 

5. Public Service, correspondence, etc., since Jan. 1964 re increase in superannuation for retired 
servants: Mr. Coates (Motion for Papers No. 24), 104. 

6. Security institutions, correspondence during 1964-65 between Justice Minister and correctional 
organizations: Mr. Orlikow (Motion for Papers No. 30), 127. 

7. Dion, Leopold, case of, reports submitted to Justice Department: Mr. Marcoux (Motion for Papers 
No. 33), 176. 

8. University per capita grants, increasing, correspondence: Mr. Coates (Motion for Papers No. 34), 
177. 

9. Saint-Jean-Port-Joli, post office for, correspondence with Mayor Chouinard: Mr. Ricard (Motion 
for Papers No. 35), 177. 

10. Social Insurance Number Card, correspondence received objecting to Coat of Arms on card and/or 
requesting that Maple Leaf as it appears on Flag be substituted: Mr. Diefenbaker (Motion for 
Papers No. 42), 214. 

11. Automotive Industry, correspondence since Jan. 1, 1960, re minimum safety standards: Mr. Grafftey 
(Motion for Papers No. 44), 253. 

12. Morris provincial constituency, Sask., correspondence re federal financing of road: Mr. Maclnnis 
(Motion for Papers No. 48), 324. 

13. Farm assistance program, correspondence from Quebec Agriculture Minister to federal Agriculture 
Minister: Mr. Laprise (Motion for Papers No. 49), 324. 

14. Expo '67, correspondence re invitation to communist China: Mr. Hamilton (Motion for Papers No. 
51), 324-5. 



15. Indians, correspondence with Saskatchewan re application of medical services: Mr. Howard 
(Motion for Papers No. 52), 325. 



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Returns Ordered - (Concluded) 

16. Mulgrave, N.S., alternative winter port, correspondence: Mr. MacEwan (Motion for Papers No. 
55), 325. 

Part II— Questions Made Orders for Returns 

1. Crime, statistics, penitentiaries population, correctional policy, etc.: Mr. Matheson (Question 
No. 35), 251-2. 

2. Hangings, bungled, repeats, etc.: Mr. Matheson (Question No. 40), 252. 

3. Defence contracts, by province, since 1960: Mr. Mather (Question No. 157), 296. 

4. Crown corporations, number of employees in corporations indicated, status, etc.: Mr. Caouette 
(Question No. 569), 252. 

5. World War I and II, participants, statistics: Mr. Tucker (Question No. 734), 253. 

Rivard, Lucien: 

See Drugs, Narcotic. 

Roads: 

Address, -Correspondence since June 1, 1964, between Saskatchewan Premier and/or Ministers and 
Prime Minister or Agriculture Minister re federal financing of road in Morris provincial consti- 
tuency: Mr. Maclnnis, 324. 

See also Alaska-Yukon Highway Authority Act; Trans-Canada Highway Act amendment. 

Rogers Stores Limited, Rimbey, Alta.: 
See Post Office Department. 

Royal Assent: 

1. Bills Assented, 180-1, 298, 330-1. 

2. Letters from Government House, 177, 295, 330. 
See also British North America Act amendment. 

Royal Canadian Mint: 

See Mint, Royal Canadian. 

Royal Canadian Mounted Police: 

1. Copy of agreement with Nova Scotia for use or employment of RCMP, 203. Sess, Paper No. 82A. 

2. Copy of agreement with Manitoba for use or employment of RCMP, 203. Sess. Paper No. 82B. 

3. Copy of agreement with Prince Edward Island for use or employment of RCMP, 230. Sess. Paper 
No. 82C. 

4. Copy of agreement with Saskatchewan for use or employment of RCMP, 293. Sess. Paper No. 
82D. 

5. Copy of agreement with New Brunswick for use or employment of RCMP, 298. Sess. Paper No. 
82E. 

6. Copy of agreement with Alberta for use or employment of RCMP, 319. Sess. Paper No. 82F. 

7. Order,— Report by Commissioner which resulted in the forced retirement of Chief Superintendent 
Belec and Sub-Inspector Poitras: Mr. Coates; moved, and question being proposed, ordered trans- 
ferred to the order of "Notices of Motions (Papers)", 75-6. Moved, and debate interrupted, 263. 

Royal Canadian Mounted Police Superannuation Act amendment: 
See Public Service Superannuation Act amendment. 

Royal Commissions: 

1. Bilingualism and Biculturalism: Order,— Questionnaires used in survey of Members of Parliament: 
Mr. Nasserden, 54-5. Presented, 72. Sess. Paper No. 197. 

2. Bilingualism and Biculturalism: Order, -Return re persons engaged, hired, etc., number in re- 
search, preparation of briefs, etc., names, salaries, honoraria payments: Mr. Mandziuk-presented 
forthwith. 115. Sess. Paper No. 197A. 



INDEX 399 

Royal Commissions - (Concluded) 

3. Bilingualism and Biculturalism : Order, -Return re expenditures, etc., in respect of honoraria, 
salaries, allowances, expenses, for Commissioners and others: Mr, Coates— presented forthwith, 
115. Sess. Paper No. 197B. 

4. Order, -Return showing since Apr. 22, 1963, number appointed, names, cost, etc., members, 
remuneration, employees, reports submitted, future commissions: Mr. Martineau— presented forth- 
with, 126. Sess. Paper No. 211. 

5. Order, -Return showing since Apr. 8, 1963. number initiated, subject-matter, cost, other types 
of enquiries, subject-matter, cost: Mr. Coates-presented forthwith, 213. Sess. Paper No. 211A. 

See also Farm machinery. 

Royal Society of Canada: 

1. Minutes of proceedings for 1964, 299. Sess. Paper No. 188. Printed. 

2. Financial statement, certified by auditors, for period ended Feb. 28, 1965, 299. Sess. Paper 
No. 188A. 



Saint- Jean-Port- Joli, Que.: 

See Post Office Department. 

St. Lawrence Seaway; 

Press Release dated June 11, 1965, re low water levels at Port of Montreal, 219. Sess. Paper No. 

225. 

St. Lawrence Seaway Authority: 

1. Report for 1964, with auditor's report, 61. Sess. Paper No. 178. Printed. 

2. Report of loan made to authority, 271. Sess. Paper No. 178A. 

Salmon Fisheries: 
See Fisheries. 

Science Council of Canada Act: 

Resolution,— To establish a Science Council of Canada and define the duties thereof, etc.: House 
to consider in Committee of the Whole at next sitting, 151. 

Seafarers International Union: 

Order,— Working papers prepared for Norris Commission by chartered accountants: Mr. Orlikow; moved, 
and question being proposed, ordered transferred to the order of "Notices of Motions (Papers)", 
77. 

See also Maritime Transportation Unions Board of Trustees. 

Seaway International Bridge Corporation, Ltd.: 

Report for 1964, with auditor's report, 61. Sess. Paper No. 177A. Printed. 
See also Cornwall International Bridge Corporation Limited. 

Seed Grain Indebtedness: 

List of apportionments and adjustments on advances of seed grain,, fodder for animals, etc., Feb. 
19, 1964 to Apr. 5, 1965, 69. Sess. Paper No. 125. 

Senate: 

See Parliamentary Staff Act. 

Senate, Abolishing: 

See British North America Act amendment. 

Senate and House of Commons Act amendment: 

Bill C-35, Mr. Marcoux (Allowance to Leaders). 1st R., 21. 

Senate and House of Commons Act and the Members of Parliament Retiring Allowances Act amendment: 

Bill C-27, Mr. Marcoux (Indemnity Increase, Refusal). 1st R., 21. 



400 INDEX 

Senators, Indemnity Increase: 

See Senate and House of Commons Act, etc. 

Senators Retirement Act: 

1. Resolution,— To provide for retirement upon attaining age of seventy-five years of any person 
appointed to Senate after coming into force of said measure, extend provisions of Members of 
Parliament Retiring Allowances Act to such persons, granting of an annuity, etc.: House to 
consider in Committee of the Whole at next sitting, 32. Considered in Committee of the Whole, 
46, 49. Resolution adopted, on division, 49. Bill C-98, Prime Minister, 1st R., on division, 49. 
2nd R moved; amendment (Mr. Prittie),-To defer. House is of the opinion the Senate should be 
abolished: moved and ruled out of order, appealed and ruling sustained on recorded division, 
85-6. Debate resumed and interrupted, 86, 104. Debate resumed; amendment (Mr. Howard),— 'This 
day six months hence": moved and debate interrupted, 111-2. Debate resumed, amendment neg- 
atived on recorded division, 116-7. 2nd R, on division, 117. Considered in Committee of the 
Whole, progress reported, 117. Consideration in Committee of the Whole resumed (together with 
resolution concurred in this day) (see below), 118. Reported with amendments, considered as 
amended, 118. 3rd R moved; amendment (Mr. Diefenbaker),— To defer and refer back to Committee 
of the Whole to add that Act shall come into force upon return of writs at next general election: 
moved and negatived on recorded division, 122-3. 3rd R after debate, on division, 123. Passed 
by Senate, 180. R.A., 181. 14 Elizabeth II, Chapter 4, S.C. 1965. 

2. Resolution,— To amend Bill C-98, to provide for persons appointed to the Senate before coming 
into force of said Bill, for making of contributions under Part III equal to six per cent of their 
sessional indemnities; granting of annuity on resignation at 75; making of elections, etc.: House 
to consider in Committee of the Whole forthwith; considered in Committee of the Whole, resolu- 
tion adopted, referred to Committee of the Whole on Bill C-98 (see above), 117-8. 

Shastri visit: 

See Distinguished visitors. 

Shipbuilding: 

1. Order, -Return re ships subsidized, owners, transferred to foreign registry: Mr. Dube— presented 
forthwith, 54. Sess. Paper No. 194. 

2. Order,-Return showing for each year since 1950 total contracts awarded British Columbia ship- 
yards, subsidies, current contracts, etc.: Mr. Deachman— presented forthwith, 125-6. Sess. Paper 
No. 194A. 

Sibley, Professor Mulford Q.: 

See Citizenship and Immigration Department. 

Sir John A. Macdonald Day Act: 

Bill C-14, Mr. Macquarrie. 1st R., 20. 

Sittings of the House: 

1. Ordered, -That House will sit during dinner hour this day (Apr. 12) and on following day will 
sit continually from 11.00 a.m. until proceedings concluded on Address in Reply, and, on the 
adjournment of the House, the government will move that it stand adjourned until Apr. 26, 1965, 
35. 

2. Sitting suspended until call of Chair (Royal Assent), 329. 

See also Adjournment Motion Proceedings Under Provisional S.O. 39-A; Adjournments, Special; 
Procedural Changes; Procedure. 

Small Businesses Loons Act amendment: 

Bill C-112, Mr. Leblanc (Trucking Industry). 1st R., 175. 

Small Loans Act amendment: 

1. Bill C-24, Mr. Orlikow (Interest Rates). 1st R., 21. 

2. Bill C-74, Mr. Orlikow (Advertising). 1st R., 23. 

Small Loons Companies and Money-lenders Report: 
See Insurance, Superintendent of. 



INDEX 401 

Social Insurance Number: 

See Social Security Cord. 

Social Security: 

Order, -Return showing since 1950 total payments to British Columbia residents under Old Age 
Pensions Act, Old Age Assistance Act, War Veterans Pensions Act, War Veterans Allowance 
Act, Family Allowances Act, Blind Persons Act and Disabled Persons Act: Mr. Basford— presented 
forthwith, 103. Sess. Paper No. 206. 

Social Security Card: 

Order, -Correspondence, etc., received objecting to Coat of Arms on Social Insurance Number Card 
and/or requesting that Maple Leaf as it appears on Flag be substituted: Mr. Diefenbaker, 214. 

South Africa, Republic of: 

Order, -Return re apartheid policy, Canadian position, etc.: Mr. Brewin-presented forthwith, 73-4. 
Sess. Paper No. 200. 

Sovereign's Birthday and Commonwealth Day: 
See Commonwealth Day Act. 

Soviet Union: 

Press release dated May 8, 1965, re departure from Canada of two members of the Embassy, 91. 
Sess. Paper No. 205. (Printed as appendix to Hansard of May 11, 1965). 

Space, Outer: 

Order,-Return re High Altitude Research Program (HARP), details: Mr. Orlikow— presented forthwith, 
323. Sess. Paper No. 243. 

Speaker, Mr .: 

1. Communicated letter from Governor-General's Secretary re Opening of Parliament, 1. 

2. Duties after Dissolution, Clerk to act until Speaker chosen by new Parliament; See House of 
Commons Act amendment. 

3. Reported Speech from Throne, 2. 

4. Read message appointing Commissioners of Internal Economy, 6. 

5. Presented reports of Commissioners of Internal Economy, 29, 231. Sess. Paper Nos. 2, 2A. 

6. Presented report of Parliamentary Librarian, 7. 

7. Communicated letters re Royal Assent, 177, 295, 330. 

8. Unavoidable absence of Mr. Speaker, 183, 231, 249, 251, 255, 273, 281, 287, 295, 301. 

Speaker's Rulings and Statements: 

Address Debate Amendments: 

Mr. Rondeau (Shefford) proposed an amendment by adding; failure to adjust family allowances 
according to cost of living, 34. Mr. Speaker ruled amendment out of order on grounds that the 
substance and essence thereof was a question upon which the House had already voted 
on, 34. Ruling appealed and sustained on recorded division, 34-5. 

Bills, Government; Second Reading Amendments: 

Mr. Prittie(Burnaby-Richrnond), during debate on motion for second reading of Bill C- 98 (Senators 
Retirement), proposed an amendment; to defer, that House is of the opinion the Senate should 
be abolished, 85. Mr. Deputy Speaker ruled the amendment out of order in that it proposed to 
introduce a subject-matter that was foreign to the provisions of the bill, 85. Ruling appealed 
and sustained on recorded division, 85-6. 

Bills, Government; Committee of the Whole Amendments : 
See Chairman's Decisions Appealed. 

Bills, Public (Private Members); Introduction and First Reading: 

On the 4th sitting day of the Session when the first list of Private Members Public Bills appeared 
for Introduction on the Order Paper, Mr. Speaker stated that all such Bills would be scrutinized 
for defects prior to the second reading stage because the Chair was not yet in a position to 
review them to judge their acceptability under the rules, and in order to save time all Bills 
will be deemed to have been introduced and given first reading, 19. 



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Speaker's Rulings and Statements - (Concluded) 

Chairman's Decisions Appealed: 

During debate in Committee of the Whole on Bill C- 118 (Income Tax Act), Mr, Cameron (Nanaimo- 
Cowichan-The Islands) proposed an amendment to clause 4. Mr. Lamoureux (Chairman) ruled 
the amendment out of order, upon which objection was taken and an appeal made to Mr, Deputy 
Speaker pursuant to provisional S.O. 59(4), 303. Mr. Deputy Speaker ruled that in the present 
circumstances he could not rule against the decision of the Chairman of the Committee of the 
Whole, 304. 

Committees, Standing; Orders of Reference: 

A point of order was raised by Mr. Mcintosh (Swift Current-Maple Creek) re resolution to refer 
Prairie Farm Assistance Administration Commission of Inquiry Report to Agriculture and 
Colonization Committee, that Commission exceeded its legal powers in making certain recom- 
mendations, 39-40, Mr, Speaker ruled that the question was a matter of law which was not 
within the competence of the Chair to decide, 40. Ruling appealed and sustained on recorded 
division, 40-1. 

Government Motions: 

Mr. Coates (Cum.berland) during debate on motion to amend the Standing Orders proposed an amend- 
ment to add, that, proposals shall not become effective until permanent Speaker appointed, 156. 
Mr. Deputy Speaker ruled amendment out of order in that it goes beyond the terms of the main 
proposition and was in the nature of an expanded negative, 157, 

Motions (Papers): 

Objection having been taken to the transferring of a motion for an Address for Papers (No. 1) to 
the order of "Notices of Motions (Papers)", Mr, Speaker ruled that he was bound by S.O. 47, 
74, Ruling appealed and sustained on recorded division, 74-5, 

Petition, Public: 

Mr, Latulippe(Compton-Frontenac)requested that the Clerk of the House read a petition presented 
on May 18, 1965, 159, Mr, Speaker ruled that the request should have been made when the 
Clerk of Petitions report was presented, otherwise the petition was deemed to have been read. 
However, with a view of not depriving a Member of a privilege, and not creating a precedent, 
Mr, Speaker asked whether it was the pleasure of the House that such petition be now read, 
159-60. 
See also Procedural Changes. 

Speakership: 

Report dated April 1965 by Denis Smith, Assistant Professor of Politics, Trent University, entitled 
"The Speakership of the Canadian House of Commons: Some Proposals" ordered printed as 
appendix to Votes and Proceedings of June 2, 1965, 180. 

Standing Orders Amended: 

See Procedural Changes. 

Standing Orders Committee: 

Membership, 262. 

Statutes of Canada: 

Order, -Return re bilingual printing and distribution of Statutes, cost, etc.: Mr. Matheson— presented 
forthwith, 296. Sess. Paper No. 234. 

Statutory Orders and Regulations: 

1. Consolidated Index and Table of Statutory Orders and Regulations for period Jan. 1, 1955, to 
Mar. 31, 1965, 139. Sess. Paper No. 130C. Printed. 

2. Canada Labour Code Regulations (General) published in Canada Gazette of June 25, 1965, 314. 
Sess. Paper No. 130F. Printed. 

3. Statutory Orders and Regulations from Apr. 14 to June 23, 1965, 46, 64, 129, 173, 247, 314. Sess. 
Paper Nos. 130 to 130B; 130D, 130E, 130G. Printed. 

See also Orders in Council. 



INDEX 403 

Stonehill, Harry: 

See Immigrants. 

Student Loans: 

See Canada Student Loans Act. 

Subsidies: 

See Dairy Products; Railways; Shipbuilding. 

Subversive Activity: 
See Soviet Union. 

Superannuation: 

See Canadian Forces Superannuation Act; Pensions; Public Service Superannuation Act amendment. 

Superintendent of Insurance, Reports: 
See Insurance, Superintendent of. 

Supply: 

1. Committee appointed, 41. 

2. Main estimates, 1965-66, presented and referred, 45. Supplementary Estimates (A), 1965-66, 
presented and referred, 121. Supplementary Estimates (B), 1965-66, presented and referred, 287. 
Supplementary Estimates (C), 1965-66, presented and referred, 309. 

3. House resolved into Committee of Supply: 

fa j Departmental Estimates entered on Supply Orders under S.O. 56(5): 

No. 1: Agriculture, Defence Production, External Affairs, Fisheries, Industry, Justice, Labour, 
National Defence, Trade and Commerce, Veterans Affairs, 93-5. 

(b) Without motion put, on Estimates, 162 (2), 277, 325, 326. 

fcj Interim Supply Resolutions, 161, 313 (2), 319, 327. 

4. Progress reported from Committee of Supply, 162(2), 313. 

5. Resolutions adopted (Estimates by Departments): 

(a) Supplementary Estimates (A), 1965-66: Labour, 277-8. 

(b) Supplementary Estimates (C), 1965-66: Industry, 325; Labour, 326. 

See also Estimates; Procedural Changes; Supply Bills; Supply Motions; Ways and Means. 

Supply Bills: 

1. Resolution (Second Interim Supply, based on 1965-66 Estimates) in Supply and Ways and Means 
Committees, 161-2. Bill C-110, (Appropriation Act No. 3, 1965), Minister of Finance, Act for 
granting to Her Majesty certain sums of money for public service for year ending March 31, 1966. 
1st R, 2nd R, considered in Committee of the Whole, reported without amendment, 3rd R. , 162. 
Passed by Senate, 170. R.A., 181. 14 Elizabeth II, Chapter 1, S.C. 1965. 

2. Committee of Ways and Means Resolution (based on resolution reported by Committee of Supply 
re Supplementary Estimates (A), 1965-66), 278. Bill C-122, (Appropriation Act No. 4, 1965), 
Minister of Finance, Act for granting to Her Majesty certain sums of money for public service 
for year ending March 31, 1966. 1st R, 2nd R, considered in Committee of the Whole, reported 
without amendment, 3rd R., 278. Passed by Senate, 297. R.A., 298. 14 Elizabeth II, Chapter 6, 
S.C. 1965. 

3. Committee of Ways and Means Resolution (based on resolutions reported by Committee of Supply 
re Supplementary Estimates (C), 1965-66), 326-7. Bill C-130, (Appropriation Act No. 5, 1965), 
Minister of Finance, Act for granting to Her Majesty certain sums of money for public service 
for year ending March 31, 1966. 1st R, 2nd R, considered in Committee of the Whole, reported 
without amendment, 3rd R., 327. Passed by Senate, 329. R.A., 331. 14 Elizabeth II, Chapter 10, 
S.C. 1965. 

4. Resolution (Third Interim Supply, based on 1965-66 Estimates and Supp. (B) Estimates) in Supply 
and Ways and Means Committees (after three sittings), 327-8. Bill C-131, (Appropriation Act No. 
6, 1965), Minister of Finance, Act for granting to Her Majesty certain sums of money for public 
service for year ending March 31, 1966. 1st R, 2nd R, considered in Committee of the Whole, re- 
ported without amendment, 3rd R., 328. Passed by Senate, 329. R.A., 331. 14 Elizabeth II, Chap- 
ter 11, S.C. 1965. 

See also Procedural Changes. 



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Supply Motions under S.O. 56(2): 

Motion for Speaker to leave Chair to resolve House into Committee of Supply, 90. Amendment (Mr. 
Douglas),— Regrets when government entered into Canada-U.S. automotive agreement it failed to 
safeguard interests of Canadian consumers, workers and small parts manufacturers: moved and 
debate interrupted, 90. Debate resumed, 91-2. Debate interrupted by Mr. Speaker at appointed 
time, and amendment negatived on recorded division, 92-3. Main motion agreed to, after further 
debate, without time carry-over, 93. 

See also Procedural Changes. 

Supply Procedures Committee: 

Motion (Mr. Mcllraith),— That Committee be appointed to prepare and submit changes in Standing 
Orders consequential upon resolution adopted June 8, 1965, be empowered to report from time to 
time, and sit while the House is sitting, agreed to by unaminous consent, 229-30. 

See also Procedural Changes. 

Supreme Court of Canada: 

Order in Council referring question of jurisdiction over off-shore mineral rights, 60-1. Sess. Paper 
No. 196. 

Sweepstakes and Lotteries: 

See Criminal Code amendment. 



Tariff Board: 

Report on live turkeys, with transcript of evidence, 27. Sess. Paper No. 65A. 

Technical and Vocational Training Assistance Act: 

1. Report for 1964-65, 203. Sess. Paper No. 89. 

2. Address,— Correspondence since May 23, 1964, between Saskatchewan and federal government re 
expiry of agreement on Mar. 31, 1966: Mr. Douglas, 127. Presented, 250. Sess. Paper No. 89A. 

Telecommunication Services, Report for Parliament: 
See Railway Act amendment (C-34). 

Television: 

Order,— Return showing since Jan. 1963, applicants for community antenna broadcasting licenses, 
dates, changes in existing licences, etc.: Mr. Pugh— presented forthwith, 89. Sess. Paper No. 
202. 

See also Broadcasting Act amendment; Radio Act amendment. 

Terminal Railway Company: 

See Ottawa Terminal Railway Company Act. 

Throne Speech Debate: 

See Address in Reply, Debate on. 

"Times-Journal" Newspaper, Fort William, Ont.: 
See Restrictive Trade Practices Commission. 

Tisdale Public Terminal Elevator Crown Corporation Act: 

See Northern Ontario Pipe Line Crown Corporation Act amendment. 

Tobacco Inspection Act: 

Bill C-80, Mr. Whelan. 1st R., 23. 



Tobacco Restraint Act: 

1. Bill C-18, Mr. Mather. 1st R., 20. 

2. Bill C-64, Mr. Cowan (Repeal). 1st R., 23. 



INDEX 405 



Tobacco, use by minors, packaging, labelling, advertising, etc.: 
See Tobacco Restraint Act. 

Toll Bridges: 

See Bridges. 

Toronto, Ont.: 

Statements dated May 19, 1965, by Ontario Premier, Highways Minister and Canadian National 

Railways President re railway commuter service, 127-8. Sess. Paper No. 213. 
See also Central Mortgage and Housing Corporation. 

Trade: 

See Canada- Japan Relations; Combines Investigation Act amendment (C-56); West Indies. 

Trade and Commerce Department: 

Estimates, Main, 1965-66, referred to Finance, Trade and Economic Affairs Committee, 263. 

Trans-Canada Air Lines: 
See Air Canada. 

Trans-Canada Highway: 
See Expo '67. 

Trans-Canada Highway Act amendment: 

Bill C-71, Mr. Fisher (Confederation Road). 1st R., 23. 

Transport Act and Railway Act amendment: 

BillC-5, Mr. Barnett (B.C. Water Carriers). 1st R., 20. 2nd R moved and debate interrupted, 64. 

Transport and Communications Committee: 

1. Membership, 262. 

2. Bills referred: Algoma Central and Hudson Bay Railway Company, 170; Great Northern Pacific 
& Burlington Lines, Inc., 207-8; Interprovincial Pipe Line Company, 289. 

3. Reports: First (sittings), 315; Second (Algoma Central and Hudson Bay Railway Company, Great 
Northern Pacific & Burlington Lines, Inc., Interprovincial Pipe Line Company, Bills), 315. 

Transport Department: 

1. Report for 1963-64, 90. Sess. Paper No. 159. Printed. 

2. Order,— Correspondence during June 1965 between Mr. Bernard Power and Transport Minister; 
Mr. Laprise, 324. Presented, 332. Sess. Paper No. 244. 

Transportation Services, Report for Parliament: 
See Railway Act amendment (C-34). 

Transportation Studies of Atlantic Provinces: 
See Atlantic Provinces. 



Treaties: 

See Agreements, etc.; Provinces. 



Trucking Industry: 

See Small Businesses Loans Act amendment. 



Tunnels: 

See Airports. 



Turkeys: 

See Tariff Board. 



406 INDEX 



Unemployment Insurance Act amendment: 

Bill C-44, Mr. Rapp (Agricultural Employees' Coverage). 1st R., 22. 

Unemployment Insurance Commission: 
See National Employment Service. 

Union Dues, Voluntary Check-off: 

See Industrial Relations and Disputes Investigation Act amendment. 

United Baptist Woman's Missionary Union of the Atlantic Provinces: 

Petition received to amend Act of incorporation deleting words "Maritime Provinces" in Section 6 
of said Statutes and substituting "Atlantic Provinces", and for other purposes, 182. Reported 
by Examiner of Petitions, 320. 

United Baptist Women's Missionary Union of the Maritime Provinces: 

See United Baptist Women's Missionary Union of the Atlantic Provinces. 

United Steelworkers of America: 
See Immigration. 

University Grants: 

See Educational Assistance. 

University Students: 

See Canada Student Loans Act; Educational Assistance. 



Vacations with Pay: 

See Canada Labour (Standards) Code Act amendment. 

Vancouver International Airport: 
See Airports. 

Veterans Affairs Committee: 

1. Membership, 262. 

2. Estimates of Veterans Affairs Department referred, without notice or debate, 263. 

3. Reports: First (sittings), 316. 

Veterans Affairs Department: 

Estimates, Main, 1965-66, referred to Veterans Affairs Committee, 263. 

Veterans' Business and Professional Loans Act: 

Report for 1964-65, 332. Sess. Paper No. 66. 

Veterans' Land Act amendment: 

Resolution, -To establish a revolving fund called the Veterans' Land Act Fund, extend authority 
of Director, etc.: House to consider in Committee of the Whole later this day or at next sitting, 
302-3. Considered in Committee of the Whole, resolution adopted, 305-6. Bill C-128, Minister 
of Veterans Affairs, 1st R., 306. 2nd R after debate, considered in Committee of the Whole, re- 
ported without amendment, 314. 3rd R., 317. Passed by Senate, 326. R.A., 330. 14 Elizabeth II, 
Chapter 19, S.C. 1965. 

Victoria Day, renaming: 

See Commonwealth Day Act. 



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Viet Nam: 

1. Report dated Feb. 27, 1965, of International Commission for Supervision and Control in Viet 
Nam, 11. Sess. Paper No. 190. 

2. Memorandum by External Affairs Department commenting upon a publication entitled "Facts 
about the War in Vietnam", 135. Sess. Paper No. 190B. 

See also Agreements, etc. 

Villeneuve County Winter Works: 
See Public Works. 

Visitors: 

See Distinguished visitors. 

Vocational Rehabilitation of Disabled Persons Act: 

Report for 1964-65, 181. Sess. Paper No. 92. 

Votes Recorded in the Chamber: 
See Divisions, Recorded. 



Wage Earners' Assignments: 

See Bankruptcy Act amendment. 

Wages, Minimum, and Severance Pay: 

See Canada Labour (Standards) Code Act amendment. 

War Veterans Allowance Act, 1952, amendment: 

Resolution, -To incorporate into the Act Schedule A as authorized by Appropriation Act No. 10, 
1964, allow for further exemptions in property and income and provide for certain changes in 
administration of Act: House to consider in Committee of the Whole later this day or at next 
sitting, 302. Considered in Committee of the Whole, resolution adopted, 305. Bill C-127, Minister 
of Veterans Affairs, 1st R., 305. 2nd R after debate, considered in Committee of the Whole, 
reported without amendment, 3rd R., 313. Passed by Senate, 326. R.A., 330. 14 Elizabeth II, 
Chapter 20, S.C. 1965. 

Water Carriers (B.C. Coastal Waters): 

See Transport Act and Railway Act amendment. 

Water Pollution: 

Preventive equipment, considering tax concessions: motion (Mr. Hahn) moved and debate interrupted, 

150. 
See also Criminal Code amendment (C-66); Water Pollution Control Division. 

Water Pollution Control Division: 

Consideration to advisability of creating: motion (Mr. Herridge) moved and debate interrupted, 56. 

Ways and Means: 

1. Committee appointed, 41. 

2. House resolved itself into Committee of Ways and Means, 79, 161-2, 246, 249, 250, 253, 256, 
263, 273, 278, 326, 328. 

3. Progress reported, 79, 246, 250, 253. 

4. Supply Resolutions adopted: 161-2 (interim); 278 (supplementary (A)); 326-7 (supplementary (C)); 
328 (interim). 

See also Supply Bills. 



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Ways and Means (Budget): 

5. Presentation motion (Mr. Gordon),— That Mr, Speaker do now leave Chair for House to resolve 
itself into Committee of Ways and Means, moved and debate adjourned on motion (Mr. Nowlan), 
46. Debate resumed (1st appointed day); amendment (Mr. Nowlan),— Regrets government has failed 
to abolish sales tax on production machinery, to reduce income tax on lower income groups and 
to increase old age assistance: moved, 56. Subamendment (Mr. Cameron) (Nanaimo-Cowichan-The 
Islands),-Failure to raise income tax exemptions to $1500 single and $3000 married and to grant 
old age pension of $100: moved and debate interrupted, 56. Debate resumed (2nd appointed day), 
57-8; the Chair having recognized Mr. Caron (Hull), motion (Mr. Knowles) that Mr. Martin (Timmins) 
be now heard: moved and negatived on recorded division, 58-9. Debate resumed; subamendment 
negatived on recorded division, 59-60. Debate resumed (3rd appointed day) and interrupted, 63. 
Debate resumed (4th appointed day) , the Chair having recognized Mr. Moreau (York-Scarborough), 
motion (Mr, Peters) that Mr, Martin (Timmins) be now heard: moved and negatived on recorded 
division, 66-7. Debate resumed, 67-8; amendment negatived on recorded division, 68-9. Debate 
resumed (5th appointed day) and interrupted, 71. Debate resumed (6th and final day), 78. Main 
motion agreed to on recorded division, 78-9. House resolved itself into Committee of Ways and 
Means and progress reported, 79. Resolutions adopted, 263(2), 273. (For subsequent proceedings, 
see Income Tax Act (Bill C-118); Customs Act (Bill €-119); Customs Tariff (Bill €-120). 

6. Budget papers presented, 31. Sess. Paper No. 41. Printed. (Printed as appendix to Votes and 
Proceedings of Monday, Apr. 12, 1965 and Hansard of Monday, Apr. 26, 1965). 

7. Budget Resolutions: 

(a) Printed as appendix to Votes and Proceedings of Monday, Apr. 26, 1965. 

(b) Resolutions concurred in, 270, 276. 

Weights and Measures Act amendment: 

Bill C-52, Mr. Orlikow (Truth in Packaging). 1st R., 22. 

West Indies: 

Eastern Caribbean Federation, establishing free trade with: motion (Mr. Macquarrie) moved and 

debate interrupted, 283. 
See also Air Canada. 

Wharves: 

See Harbours, Wharves and Breakwaters. 

Wheat Board: 

See Canadian Wheat Board. 

Wire Tapping: 

See Criminal Code amendment. 

World Exhibition: 
See Expo '67. 



Youth Extension Program: 

See Educational Assistance. 

Youth Parliament: 

See Centennial Observances. 

Youth Training Service: 

See National Training Service. 

Yukon Territory: 

Ordinances made by Commissioner in Council and assented to Mar. 26, Apr. 8, Apr. 12, 1965, 124. 
Sess. Paper No. 126. 



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