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NATIONAL  TRAILS  SYSTEM  IMPROVEMENT  ACT  OF 
1987  AND  REVISING  THE  BOUNDARIES  OF  THE 
SALEM  MARITIME   NATIONAL  HISTORIC   SITE 


HEARING 

BEFORE  THE 

SUBCOMMITTEE  ON 
PUBLIC  LANDS,  NATIONAL  PABKS  AND  FORESTS 

OF  THE 

COMMITTEE  ON 

ENERGY  AND  NATURAL  RESOURCES 

UNITED  STATES  SENATE 

ONE  HUNDREDTH  CONGRESS 

SECOND  SESSION 

ON 

S.  1544 

TO  AMEND  THE  NATIONAL  TRAILS  SYSTEM  ACT  TO  PROVIDE  FOR  CO- 
OPERATION WITH  STATE  AND  LOCAL  GOVERNMENTS  FOR  THE  IM- 
PROVED MANAGEMENT  OF  CERTAIN  FEDERAL  LANDS,  AND  FOR 
OTHER  PURPOSES 

H.R.  2652 

TO  REVISE  THE  BOUNDARIES  OF  SALEM  MARITIME  NATIONAL  HISTOR- 
IC SITE  IN  THE  COMMONWEALTH  OF  MASSACHUSETTS,  AND  FOR 
OTHER  PURPOSES  


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NATIONAL  TRAILS  SYSTEM  IMPROVEMENT  ACT  OF 
1987  AND  REVISING  THE  BOUNDARIES  OF  THE 
SALEM  MARITIME  NATIONAL  HISTORIC   SITE 


HEARING 

BEFORE  THE 

SUBCOMMITTEE  ON 
PUELIC  LANDS,  NATIONAL  PAEKS  AND  FORESTS 

OF  THE 

COMMITTEE  ON 

ENERGY  AND  NATURAL  RESOURCES 

UNITED  STATES  SENATE 

ONE  HUNDREDTH  CONGRESS 

SECOND  SESSION 
ON 

S.  1544 

TO  AMEND  THE  NATIONAL  TRAILS  SYSTEM  ACT  TO  PROVIDE  FOR  CO- 
OPERATION WITH  STATE  AND  LOCAL  GOVERNMENTS  FOR  THE  IM- 
PROVED MANAGEMENT  OF  CERTAIN  FEDERAL  LANDS,  AND  FOR 
OTHER  PURPOSES 

H.R.  2652 

TO  REVISE  THE  BOUNDARIES  OF  SALEM  MARITIME  NATIONAL  HISTOR- 
IC SITE  IN  THE  COMMONWEALTH  OF  MASSACHUSETTS,  AND  FOR 
OTHER  PURPOSES  


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COMMITTEE  ON  ENERGY  AND  NATURAL  RESOURCES 

J.  BENNETT  JOHNSTON,  Louisiana,  Chairman 

DALE  BUMPERS,  Arkansas  JAMES  A.  McCLURE,  Idaho 

WENDELL  H.  FORD,  Kentucky  MARK  O.  HATFIELD,  Oregon 

HOWARD  M.  METZENBAUM,  Ohio  LOWELL  P.  WEICKER,  Jr.,  Connecticut 

JOHN  MELCHER,  Montana  PETE  V.  DOMENICI,  New  Mexico 

BILL  BRADLEY,  New  Jersey  MALCOLM  WALLOP,  Wyoming 

JEFF  BINGAMAN,  New  Mexico  FRANK  H.  MURKOWSKI,  Alaska 

TIMOTHY  E.  WIRTH,  Colorado  DON  NICKLES,  Oklahoma 

WYCHE  FOWLER,  Jr.,  Georgia  CHIC  HECHT,  Nevada 

KENT  CONRAD,  North  Dakota  DANIEL  J.  EVANS,  Washington 

Daryl  H.  Owen,  Staff  Director 

D.  Michael  Harvey,  Chief  Counsel 

Frank  M.  Cushing,  Staff  Director  for  the  Minority 

Gary  G.  Ellsworth,  Chief  Counsel  for  the  Minority 


Subcommittee  on  Public  Lands,  National  Parks  and  Forests 

DALE  BUMPERS,  Arkansas,  Chairman 
JEFF  BINGAMAN,  New  Mexico,  Vice  Chairman 

JOHN  MELCHER,  Montana  MALCOLM  WALLOP,  Wyoming 

BILL  BRADLEY,  New  Jersey  LOWELL  P.  WEICKER,  Jr.,  Connecticut 

TIMOTHY  E.  WIRTH,  Colorado  MARK  O.  HATFIELD,  Oregon 

WYCHE  FOWLER,  Jr.,  Georgia  PETE  V.  DOMENICI,  New  Mexico 

KENT  CONRAD,  North  Dakota  FRANK  H.  MURKOWSKI,  Alaska 

CHIC  HECHT,  Nevada 

J.  Bennett  Johnston  and  James  A.  McClure  are  Ex  Officio  Members  of  the  Subcommittee 

Thomas  B.  Wiluams,  Senior  Professional  Staff  Member 
Euzabeth  J.  NoRCROSS,  Professional  Staff  Member 

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CONTENTS 


Page 

S.  1544 3 

H.R.  2652 10 

STATEMENTS 

Burwell,  David  G.,  president,  Rails-to-Trails  Conservancy 85 

Byron,  Hon.  Beverly  B.,  U.S.  Representative  from  Maryland 48 

Crandall,  Derrick  A.,  president,  American  Recreation  Coalition 76 

Henley,  Susan  A.,  executive  director,  American  Hiking  Society 101 

Kennedy,  Hon.  Edward  M.,  U.S.  Senator  from  Massachusetts 38 

Kerry,  Hon.  John  F.,  U.S.  Senator  from  Massachusetts 39 

Krause,  Richard  L.,  assistant  counsel,  American  Farm  Bureau  Federation, 

Park  Ridge,  IL 127 

McCray,  Paul,  Northern  Virginia  Regional  Park  Authority,  Fairfax,  VA 67 

McKee,  Steven  M.,  director,  Gorman  Nature  Center,  Mansfield,  OH 71 

Metzenbaum,  Hon.  Howard  M.,  U.S.  Senator  from  Ohio 1 

Mott,  William  Penn,  Jr.,  Director,  National  Park  Service,  Department  of  the 

Interior  on: 

S.  1544 12 

H.R.  2652 33 

Northrop,  Stuart  J.,  chairman.  Executive  Committee,  Huffy  Corp.,  Dayton, 

OH 81 

Robertson,  F.  Dale,  Chief,  Forest  Service,  U.S.  Department  of  Agriculture 43 

Welsh,   Richard,   executive   director,    National   Association   of  Reversionary 

Property  Owners,  Issaquah,  WA 109 

APPENDIX 

Additional  material  submitted  for  the  record 133 

(III) 


NATIONAL  TRAILS  SYSTEM  IMPROVEMENT  ACT 
OF  1987  AND  REVISING  THE  BOUNDARIES  OF 
THE  SALEM  MARITIME  NATIONAL  HISTORIC 
SITE 


THURSDAY,  MARCH  3,  1988 

U.S.  Senate, 
Subcommittee  on  Public  Lands, 

National  Parks  and  Forests, 
Committee  on  Energy  and  Natural  Resources, 

Washington,  DC. 

The  subcommittee  met,  pursuant  to  notice,  at  2:12  p.m.,  in  room 
SD-366,  Dirksen  Senate  Office  Building,  Hon.  Howard  M.  Metz- 
enbaum,  presiding. 

OPENING  STATEMENT  OF  HON.  HOWARD  M.  METZENBAUM,  U.S. 

SENATOR  FROM  OHIO 

Senator  Metzenbaum.  This  hearing  will  come  to  order. 

This  might  be  called  a  hearing  on  the  quality  of  life.  Nothing  ex- 
citing about  it,  but  really  having  so  much  to  do  with  the  ability  of 
people  to  enjoy  themselves  on  trails,  bicycle  trails,  running  trails. 
It  is  not  a  matter  that  stirs  the  imagination  or  gets  people  all  excit- 
ed and  determined  that  it  is  a  do  or  die  event,  not  even  a  matter 
that  brings  out  strong  opposition. 

But  I  am  pleased  that  we  have  scheduled  this  hearing  today  to 
hear  testimony,  on  a  bill  I  introduced  last  year,  a  bill  to  amend  the 
National  Trails  System  Act  to  encourage  the  creation  of  recreation- 
al trails  from  abandoned  railroad  corridors. 

I  greatly  appreciate  Senator  Bumpers'  cooperation  in  arranging 
this  hearing.  I  did  not  know  the  sound  system  was  off,  so  I  guess  I 
had  better  holler  a  little  bit. 

I  am  sure  that  we  will  hear  a  great  deal  of  testimony  this  morn- 
ing from  the  witnesses  about  the  importance  of  outdoor  recreation 
in  this  country.  Not  until  I  introduced  this  bill,  however,  did  I  real- 
ize how  popular  trails  have  become  for  a  number  of  recreational 
activities.  I  have  heard  from  individuals  and  groups  throughout 
Ohio  and  in  many  other  States  about  the  need  for  trails  in  their 
area,  and  their  efforts  to  create  trails  from  abandoned  railroad  cor- 
ridors. 

In  fact,  I  visited  one  converted  rail-trail  last  spring  which  runs 
between  Loveland  and  Morrow,  Ohio,  the  Little  Miami  Scenic 
Trail.  I  was  impressed  by  the  enthusiasm  and  local  pride  on  the 
part  of  those  who  had  created  that  trail.  They  are  now  reaping  its 

(1) 


rewards.  I  had  a  chance  to  ride  a  bicycle  on  part  of  that  trail,  and 
it  was  an  exciting  experience. 

Americans  have  always  enjoyed  the  outdoors  and  will  continue 
to  do  so.  I  fear,  however,  that  increasing  urbanization  and  develop- 
ment will  continue  to  encroach  upon  our  remaining  outdoor  recrea- 
tion areas.  Therefore,  it  makes  sense  to  try  to  preserve  some  of 
these  magnificent  railroad  corridors  before  they,  too,  become  subdi- 
vided and  developed.  Once  they  are  gone,  they  are  lost  forever. 

This  bill  will  help  to  preserve  these  corridors  without  significant- 
ly increasing  Federal  spending.  In  so  doing,  it  retains  valuable 
property  in  Federal  ownership  for  the  benefit  of  the  American 
public.  In  addition,  it  provides  communities  and  States  the  tools 
they  need  to  enhance  local  recreational  opportunities. 

I  would  like  to  quote  from  the  report  prepared  by  the  President's 
Commission  on  America's  outdoors.  "More  and  more  outdoor  recre- 
ation occurs  close  to  home,"  they  said,  "in  or  near  towns  and  cities 
where  80  percent  of  us  soon  will  live.  City  parks  are  wearing  out. 
There  are  fewer  sidewalks  for  a  population  whose  favorite  outdoor 
pastime  is  walking.  We  recommend  that  communities  create  a 
network  of  greenways  across  the  country." 

This  afternoon  we  will  hear  from  two  who  served  on  that  com- 
mission. 

I  appreciate  the  cooperation  of  all  those  who  have  agreed  to  testi- 
fy today,  especially  those  who  have  traveled  here  from  Ohio.  I  am 
also  very  pleased  to  welcome  Representative  Beverly  Byron  who 
has  sponsored  this  legislation  in  the  House. 

I  would  like  to  note  for  the  record  that  several  specific  railroad 
companies,  as  well  as  the  American  Association  of  Railroads,  were 
invited  to  testify  at  this  hearing.  They  all  declined,  generally 
saying  they  took  no  position  on  S.  1544.  Also,  although  no  State  of- 
ficials are  here  to  testify,  I  have  here  a  letter  from  the  Director  of 
the  Ohio  Department  of  Transportation.  He  lists  11  Ohio  rail-trail 
projects  which  would  benefit  from  the  bill.  He  states,  and  I  quote, 
"Such  a  bill  would  be  a  significant  aid  in  securing  abandoned  rail- 
road right-of-way  for  trails  in  the  State  of  Ohio.  These  projects  will 
require  a  great  deal  of  time,  money  and  effort  in  order  to  buy  them 
from  the  railroads  or  from  adjacent  property  owners.  This  list  of  11 
projects,"  still  in  quotes,  "is  probably  just  the  beginning  of  a  very 
important  transportation,  recreation  and  economic  asset  to  these 
communities.  All  support  that  you  can  give  to  the  passage  of  a  bill 
favorable  to  the  bicycle  and  other  trail  users  will  be  appreciated." 

Is  the  Honorable  Beverly  B.  Byron  here?  I  guess  not. 

[The  texts  of  S.  1544  and  H.R.  2652  follow:] 


n 


100th  congress 

1st  Session 


S.  1544 


To  amend  the  National  Trails  System  Act  to  provide  for  cooperation  with  State 
and  local  governments  for  the  improved  management  of  certain  Federal 
lands,  and  for  other  purposes. 


m  THE  SENATE  OF  THE  UNITED  STATES 

JxjLY  24  flegislative  day,  June  23),  1987 

Mr.  Metzenbaum  (for  himself,  Mr.  Bingaman,  Mr.  Fowlee,  Mr.  Levin,  and 
Mr.  Johnston)  introduced  the  following  bill;  which  was  read  twice  and  re- 
ferred to  the  Committee  on  Energy  and  Natural  Resources 


A  BILL 

To  amend  the  National  Trails  System  Act  to  provide  for  coop- 
eration with  State  and  local  governments  for  the  improved 
management  of  certain  Federal  lan^s,  and  for  other  pm*- 
poses. 

1  Be  it  enacted  by  the  Senate  and  House  of  Representa- 

2  tives  of  the  United  States  of  America  in  Congress  assembled, 

3  SECTION  1.  SHORT  TITLE. 

4  This  Act  may  be  cited  as  the  "National  Trails  System 

5  Improvements  Act  of  1987". 

6  SEC.  2.  FINDINGS. 

7  Congress  hereby  finds  that — 


2 

1  (1)  State  and  local  governments  have  a  special 

2  role  to  play  under  the  National  Trails  System  Act  in 

3  acquiring  and  developing  trails  for  recreation  and  con- 

4  servation  purposes; 

5  (2)  State  and  local  government  initiatives  are  fre- 

6  quently  rendered  more  difficult  because  of  a  lack  of 

7  sources  of  readily  available  funding,  especially  for  trail 

8  acquisition; 

9  (3)  a  self-financed  fund  would  facilitate  State  and 

10  local  efforts  to  acquire  and  develop  trails  in  accordance 

11  with  the  National  Trails  System  Act;  and 

12  (4)  such  a  fund  should  be  created  and  efficiently 

13  administered  to  provide  a  source  of  funds  on  a  timely 

14  basis  for  acquisition  and  development  of  appropriate 

15  trails. 

16  SEC.  3.  NATIONAL  TRAILS  SYSTEM  ACT  AMENDMENTS. 

17  Section  9  of  the  National  Trails  System  Act  (16  U.S.C. 

18  1248)  is  hereby  amended  by  adding  the  following  new  sub- 

19  sections  after  existing  subsection  (b): 

20  "(c)  Commencing  upon  the  date  of  enactment  of  this 

21  subsection,  the  right,  title,  interest,  and  estate  of  the  United 

22  States  in  all  rights  of  way  of  the  type  described  in  the  Act  of 

23  March  8,  1922  (43  U.S.C.  912),  shall  remain  in  the  United 

24  States  upon  the  abandonment  or  forfeiture  of  such  rights  of 

25  way,  or  portions  thereof,  except  to  the  extent  that  any  such 


IS.  1544  IS 


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1  right  of  way,  or  portion  thereof,  is  embraced  within  a  pubUc 

2  highway  no  later  than  one  year  after  a  determination  of  aban- 

3  donment  or  forfeiture,  as  provided  under  such  Act. 

4  "(d)(1)  All  rights  of  way,  or  portions  thereof,  retained  by 

5  the  United  States  pursuant  to  subsection  (c)  which  are  locat- 

6  ed  within  the  boundaries  of  a  conservation  system  unit  or  a 

7  National  Forest  shall  be  added  to  and  incorporated  within 

8  such  unit  or  National  Forest  and  managed  accordingly. 

9  "(2)  All  such  retained  rights  of  way,  or  portions  thereof, 

10  which  are  located  outside  the  boundaries  of  a  conservation 

11  system  unit  or  a  National  Forest  but  adjacent  to  or  contigu- 

12  ous  with  any  portion  of  the  pubUc  lands  shall  be  managed 

13  pursuant  to  the  Federal  Land  Pohcy  and  Management  Act  of 

14  1976  and  other  appUcable  law,  including  this  section. 

15  "(3)  All  such  retained  rights  of  way,  or  portions  thereof, 

16  which  are  located  outside  the  boundaries  of  a  conservation 

17  system  unit  or  National  Forest  which  the  Secretary  of  the 

18  Interior  determines  suitable  for  use  as  a  pubUc  recreational 

19  trail  or  other  recreational  purposes  shall  be  managed  by  the 

20  Secretary  for  such  uses,  unless  the  Secretary  determines  that 

21  it  is  appropriate  to  dispose  of  such  lands  pursuant  to  subsec- 

22  tion  (e)  of  this  section. 

23  "(e)(1)  Upon  application  by  a  unit  of  State  or  local  gov- 

24  emment  or  by  another  entity  which  the  Secretary  of  the  In- 

25  terior  determines  to  be  legally  and  financially  qualified  to 


IS  1544  IS 


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1  manage  a  portion  of  such  retained  rights  of  way  for  public 

2  recreational  purposes,  the  Secretary  of  the  Interior  is  author- 

3  ized  to  transfer  to  such  unit  or  entity  the  right,  title,  and 

4  interest  of  the  United  States  in  the  surface  estate  of  such 

5  portion  which  is  located  outside  the  boundary  of  a  conserva- 

6  tion  system  unit  or  National  Forest,  on  the  condition  that 

7  should  such  unit  or  entity  attempt  to  sell,  convey,  or  other- 

8  wise  transfer  such  right,  title,  or  interest  or  attempt  to  permit 

9  the  use  of  any  part  of  such  transferred  portion  of  such  re- 

10  tained  rights  of  way  for  any  purpose  other  than  public  recrea- 

11  tion,  then  all  right,  title,  and  interest  transferred  by  the  Sec- 

12  retary  pursuant  to  this  subsection  shall  revert  to  the  United 

13  States. 

14  "(2)  The  Secretary  is  authorized  to  sell  any  portion  of 

15  such  retained  rights  of  way  which  is  located  outside  the 

16  boundaries  of  a  conservation  system  unit  or  National  Forest 

17  if  such  portion  is — 

18  "(A)  not  adjacent  to  or  contiguous  with  any  por- 

19  tion  of  the  public  lands;  or 

20  "CB)  determined  by  the  Secretary,  pursuant  to  the 

21  disposal  criteria  established  by  section  203  of  the  Fed- 

22  eral  Land  Policy  and  Management  Act  of  1976,  to  be 

23  suitable  for  sale. 

24  Prior  to  conducting  any  such  sale,  the  Secretary  shall  take 

25  appropriate  steps  to  afford  a  unit  of  State  or  local  govem- 

•S   1544  18 


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1  ment  or  any  other  entity  an  opportunity  to  seek  to  obtain 

2  such  lands  pursuant  to  paragraph  (1)  of  this  subsection. 

3  "(3)  All  proceeds  from  sales  of  such  retained  rights  of 

4  way  shall  be  deposited  into  the  Treasury  of  the  United  States 

5  and  credited  to  the  Trails  Fund. 

6  "(f)  As  used  in  this  section — 

7  "(1)  the  term  'conservation  system  unit'  has  the 

8  same  meaning  given  such  term  in  the  Alaska  National 

9  Interest  Lands  Conservation  Act  (Public  Law  96-487; 

10  94  Stat.  2371  et  seq.),  except  that  such  term  shall  also 

11  include  units  outside  Alaska;  and 

12  "(2)  the  term  'public  lands'  has  the  same  meaning 

13  given  such  term  in  the  Federal  Land  Policy  and  Man- 

14  agement  Act  of  1976.". 

15  SEC.  4.  TRAILS  FUND. 

16  (a)    Establishment. — There    ig    hereby   established 

17  within  the  Treasury  of  the  United  States  a  separate  revolving 

18  trails  development  fund  to  be  known  as  the  Trails  Fund.  The 

19  Trails  Fund  shall  consist  of  any  appropriation  made  by  the 

20  Congress,  any  income  from  the  proceeds  of  dispositions  under 

21  section  9(e)  of  the  National  Trails  System  Act,  any  income  or 

22  interest  received  under  this  section,  donations  designated  for 

23  the  Trails  Fund,  and  all  interest  on  investments.  If  the  Secre- 

24  tary  of  the  Interior  determines  that  the  Trails  Fund  contains, 

25  at  any  time,  amounts  in  excess  of  current  needs,  the  Secre- 


,     ,         eS  1544  IS 


8 

6 

1  tary  of  the  Interior  may  request  the  Secretary  of  the  Treas- 

2  ury  to  invest  such  amounts,  or  any  portions  of  such  amounts, 

3  in  obligations  of  the  United  States  having  maturities  deter- 

4  mined  by  the  Secretary  of  the  Treasury  to  be  appropriate  to 

5  the  needs  of  the  Trails  Fund  and  bearing  interest  at  rates 

6  determined   to   be    appropriate   by   the    Secretary   of   the 

7  Treasury. 

8  (b)  Utilization  of  Funds. — (1)  The  Secretary  of  the 

9  Interior  is  authorized  to  utilize  available  monies  from  the 

10  Trail  Fund  for  the  acquisition  of  new  trails  or,  in  appropriate 

11  instances,  involving  the  construction  or  reconstruction  of  ex- 

12  isting  trails  for  public  use,  to  make  loans  to  State  or  local 

13  agencies,    qualified    private    organizations,    or    appropriate 

14  Federal  agencies. 

15  (2)  At  least  60  percent  of  such  funds  available  in  any 

16  fiscal  year  under  paragraph  (1)  shall  be  made  available  for 

17  loans  to  State  or  local  agencies  or  qualified  private  organiza- 

18  tions.  At  least  60  percent  of  such  funds  in  each  fiscal  year 

19  shall  be  devoted  to  the  acquisition  of  new  trails. 

20  (3)  The  Secretary  of  the  Interior  shall  determine  wheth- 

21  er  or  not  to  charge  interest  on  funds  made  available  pursuant 

22  to  this  section  and  may  establish  the  rate  of  interest  (if  any) 

23  to  be  charged. 

24  (4)  Loans  from  the  fund  shall  generally  be  repaid  within 

25  four  years  of  the  date  of  the  loan. 

•S   1544  IS 


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1  (c)  Regulations  and  Coopeeation. — (1)  The  Sec- 

2  retary  of  the  Interior  shall  promulgate  regulations  to  imple- 

3  ment  section  9  of  the  National  Trails  System  Act  (as  amend- 

4  ed  by  this  Act)  and  to  implement  this  section.  Such  regula- 

5  tions  shall,  among  other  things,  provide  a  mechanism  to 

6  make  funds  available  for  acquisition  of  rights  of  way  for 

7  public  trails  and  interim  trail  purposes  within  the  time  peri- 

8  ods  provided  in  appHcable  regulations  or  orders  issued  under 

9  otherwise  applicable  authorities. 

10  (2)  All  agencies  of  the  United  States  shall  cooperate 

11  with   the   Secretary   of  the   Interior  in   implementing  this 

12  section. 

13  (d)  Repoet. — The  Secretary  of  the  Interior,  in  conjunc- 

14  tion  with  the  Secretary  of  the  Treasury,  shall  report  annually 

15  to  the  Committee  on  Interior  and  Insular  Affairs  of  the 

16  House  of  Representatives  and  the  Committee  on  Energy  and 

17  Natural  Resources  of  the  Senate  concerning  the  financial 

18  condition  and  operations  of  the  Trails  Fund. 

19  (e)  AuTHOEiZATiON  OF  AppEOPEiATiONS. — There  is 

20  hereby  authorized  to  be  appropriated  $200,000  each  year  in 

21  fiscal  years  1988,  1989,  1990,  1991,  and  1992  for  the  ad- 

22  ministration  of  this  Act.  There  is  hereby  authorized  to  be 

23  appropriated  $500,000  each  year  in  fiscal  years  1988  and 

24  1989  for  the  Trails  Fund. 

O 

•S  1544  IS 


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IN  THE  SENATE  OF  THE  UNITED  STATES 

OcTOBEE  6  Oegislative  day,  Septembee  25),  1987 

Received;  read  twice  and  referred  to  the  Committee  on  Energy  and  Natural 

Resources 


AN  ACT 

To  revise  the  boundaries  of  Salem  Maritime  National  Historic 
Site  in  the  Commonwealth  of  Massachusetts,  and  for  other 
purposes. 

1  Be  it  enacted  by  the  Senate  and  House  of  Representa- 

2  tives  of  the  United  States  of  America  in  Congress  assembled, 

3  SECTION    1.    BOUNDARY    REVISION    OF    SALEM    MARITIME 

4  NATIONAL  HISTORIC  SITE. 

5  (a)  BouNDAEY  Revision. — The  Salem  Maritime  Na- 

6  tional  Historic  Site  (hereafter  in  this  Act  referred  to  as  the 

7  "national  historic   site"),   designated  on  March   17,   1938, 

8  under  section  2  of  the  Act  of  August  21,  1935  (49  Stat.  666), 

9  and  located  in  Salem,  Massachusetts,  shall  consist  of  lands 


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2 

1  and  interests  in  lands  as  generally  depicted  on  the  map  enti- 

2  tied  "Boundary  Map,  Salem  Maritime  National  Historic  Site, 

3  Salem,  Massachusetts",  numbered  373-80,011,  and  dated 

4  April  1987.  The  map  shall  be  on  file  and  available  for  public 

5  inspection   in   the    offices    of   the   National   Park    Service, 

6  Department  of  the  Interior. 

7  (b)  Acquisition  of  Lands. — The  Secretary  of  the  In- 

8  terior  may  acquire   lands   or  interests   therein  within   the 

9  boundary  of  the  national  historic  site  by  donation,  purchase 

10  with  donated  or  appropriated  funds,  or  exchange.  Any  lands 

11  or  interests  in  lands  owned  by  the  Commonwealth  of  Massa- 

12  chusetts  or  any  political  subdivision  thereof  may  be  acquired 

13  only  by  donation.  Lands  and  interests  therein  acquired  pursu- 

14  ant  to  this  Act  shall  become  part  of  the  national  historic  site 

15  and  shall  be  subject  to  all  the  laws  and  regulations  applicable 

16  to  the  national  historic  site. 

Passed  the  House  of  Representatives  October  5,  1987. 

Attest:  DONNALD  K.  ANDERSON, 

Clerk. 


•HR  2652  RFS 


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Senator  Metzenbaum.  William  Penn  Mott,  Director  of  the  Nation- 
al Park  Service,  we  are  very  happy  to  hear  from  you,  sir. 

STATEMENT  OF  WILLIAM  PENN  MOTT,  JR.,  DIRECTOR,  NATIONAL 
PARK  SERVICE,  DEPARTMENT  OF  THE  INTERIOR 

Mr.  Mott.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  filed  my  complete  statement  with 
you,  and  I  would  like  to  just  summarize,  in  the  interest  of  time,  our 
position  on  this  particular  bill. 

Mr.  Chairman,  we  believe  that  trails  and  trail-related  activities 
represent  excellent  outdoor  recreation  opportunities  for  American 
citizens.  The  railroad  rights-of-way  represent  potentially  one  of  the 
best  opportunities  to  establish  new  trails  that  wind  through  urban 
and  suburban  communities  and  traverse  scenic  open  space,  as  well. 
We  support  the  intent  of  the  bill  to  encourage  State  and  local  gov- 
ernments to  acquire  and  develop  trails  for  recreation  and  conserva- 
tion purposes,  but  we  cannot  recommend  enactment  of  the  bill  in 
its  present  form.  It  would  be  premature  for  us  to  support  such  a 
measure  without  a  comprehensive  understanding  of  all  of  the  legal 
issues  involved,  and  there  are  many  which  would  be  unresolved 
under  S.  1544. 

Moreover,  we  do  not  agree  with  the  findings  of  the  bill  outlining 
a  strong  Federal  role  in  providing  funding.  Congress  has,  in  Section 
8(d)  of  the  National  Trails  System  Act,  sought  to  encourage  the 
railroads  to  make  their  inactive  rights-of-way  available  for  trail  use 
on  an  interim  basis.  Under  that  arrangement,  the  public  gets  the 
use  of  the  trails  and  the  railroads  keep  the  right-of-way  for  recon- 
version to  railroad  use  at  a  later  date. 

S.  1544  represents  another  way  to  implement  the  rails-to-trails 
policy.  It  applies  to  rights-of-way  granted  to  the  railroads  by  the 
Federal  Government.  When  such  a  right-of-way  is  abandoned,  S. 
1544  provides  that  whatever  residual  property  rights  the  Federal 
Government  retains  will  be  reserved  for  possible  trail  use. 

Mr.  Chairman,  we  believe  the  intent  of  the  bill  is  sound  public 
policy.  The  Federal  Government  granted  these  rights  and,  if  possi- 
ble, should  be  able  to  determine  how  they  are  used  if  they  are 
abandoned.  However,  the  Solicitor's  Office  of  the  Department  has 
indicated  that  the  Federal  Government  may  not  have  any  residual 
rights  at  all  after  the  right-of-way  is  abandoned.  Apparently  courts 
have  called  into  question  the  extent  of  the  Federal  Government's 
residual  rights.  I  have  been  assured  that  our  Solicitor's  Office  will 
develop  suggested  amendments  to  S.  1544  that  will  address  this 
issue,  and  we  will  get  those  amendments  to  the  staff  very  shortly. 

As  my  prepared  statement  says,  Mr.  Chairman,  we  wish  to  sup- 
port this  bill  because  we  strongly  believe  in  its  goals.  We  hope  to 
have  technical  amendments  to  your  committee  staff  shortly. 

That  concludes  my  remarks.  I  would  be  glad  to  answer  any  ques- 
tions. 

[The  prepared  statement  of  Mr.  Mott  on  S.  1544  follows:] 


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STATEMENT  OF  WILLIAM  PENN  MOTT ,  JR.,  DIRECTOR,  NATIONAL  PARK 
SERVICE,  DEPARTMENT  OF  THE  INTERIOR,  BEFORE  THE  SUBCOMMITTEE  ON 
PUBLIC  LANDS,  NATIONAL  PARKS  AND  FORESTS,  SENATE  COMMITTEE  ON 
ENERGY  AND  NATURAL  RESOURCES,  CONCERNING  S.  1544,  THE  PROPOSED 
NATIONAL  TRAILS  SYSTEM  IMPROVEMENTS  ACT  OF  1987. 

MARCH  3,  1988 

Mr.  Chairman,  I  appreciate  the  opportunity  to  provide  your 
Subcommittee  with  the  views  of  the  Department  of  the  Interior  on 
S.  1544,  the  proposed  National  Trails  System  Improvements  Act  of 
1987. 


We  support  the  intent  of  the  bill,  to  encourage  State  and  local 
governments  to  acquire  and  develop  trails  for  recreation  and 
conservation  purposes,  but  we  cannot  recommend  enactment  of  the 
bill  in  its  present  form.  It  would  be  premature  for  us  to  sup- 
port such  a  measure  without  a  comprehensive  understanding  of  all 
the  legal  issues  involved,  and  there  are  many  which  would  be 
unresolved  under  S.  1544.  Moreover,  we  do  not  agree  with  the 
findings  of  the  bill  outlining  a  strong  Federal  role  in  providing 
funding. 

S.  1544  would  amend  the  National  Trails  System  Act  by  adding  four 
subsections  to  section  9.  These  provisions  deal  with  abandoned 
or  forfeited  railroad  rights-of-way.  Under  existing  law,  if  it 
reverts  to  the  U.S.,  an  abandoned  or  forfeited  right-of-way  is 
conveyed  to  the  owner  of  the  land  traversed  by  the  right-of-way 
or  to  a  city  if  the  right-of-way  is  within  a  municipality.  Under 
S.  1544,  whatever  right-of-way  interest  that  may  revert  to  the 
U.S.  would  remain  in  the  Federal  Government  to  be  managed  or 
disposed  of  as  follows: 

If  the  right-of-way  is  within  the  National  Park  System, 
National  Wildlife  Refuge  System,  National  Trails  System, 
National  Forest  System,  or  Wild  and  Scenic  Rivers  System,  it 
becomes  part  of  that  system  and  is  managed  accordingly . 


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If  the  right-of-way  is  not  within  one  of  the  conservation 
systems  but  is  nevertheless  adjacent  to  public  lands  managed 
by  the  Bureau  of  Land  Management,  then  it  shall  be  managed 
by  BLM  in  accordance  with  FLPMA. 

If  the  right-of-way  is  outside  of  a  conservation  system 
unit,  it  could  be  transferred  to  qualified  non-Federal 
entities  for  recreational  purposes,  or,  if  not  adjacent  to 
BLM  lands,  sold  with  the  proceeds  deposited  into  a  new  fund 
in  the  Treasury,  the  Trails  Fund. 

We  note  that  other  federally-managed  areas  such  as  Bureau  of 
Reclamation  withdrawals,  military  reservations,  and  Indian  lands 
held  in  trust  by  the  United  States  are  not  covered  by  the  legis- 
lation. 

Section  4  of  the  bill  would  establish  the  Trails  Fund,  to  consist 
of  initial  appropriations  of  $500,000  in  fiscal  years  1988  and 
1989,  together  with  proceeds  from  right-of-way  sales,  donations, 
and  interest.  The  fund  would  be  available,  without  appropria- 
tion, for  acquisition  and  construction  of  trails  and  for  loans  to 
states,  local  governments,  and  qualified  private  organizations. 
The  loans  may  be  interest-free. 

The  bill  further  requires  an  annual  report  to  the  legislative 
Committees  of  Congress,  and  it  authorizes  appropriations  total- 
ling $1  million  over  2  years  for  the  Trails  Fund. 

Mr.  Chairman,  we  believe  that  trails  and  trail-related  activities 
represent  excellent  outdoor  recreation  opportunities  for 
America's  citizens.  Accordingly,  we  support  the  initial  finding 
of  the  bill  related  to  encouraging  State  and  local  governments  to 
establish  additional  trail  opportunities,  as  well  as  the  intent 
of  the  provision  of  the  bill  that  would  effectively  repeal  43 
U.S.C.  912.    Apparently,  the  intent  of  this  last  provision  is  to 


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ensure  that  any  Federal  interests  in  abandoned  railroad  rights- 
of-way  would  remain  in  Federal  ownership  unless  and  until  a 
conscious  decision  is  made  to  transfer  or  sell  such  interests  for 
recreational  use.  We  estimate  that  approximately  30,000  miles  of 
public  land  rights-of-way  were  granted  to  the  railroads  in  the 
1800 's,  and  we  share  the  belief  of  the  bill's  sponsors  that  much 
of  this  mileage  could  be  converted  to  trail  use  at  such  time  as 
it  may  be  abandoned. 

There  are,  however,  several  problems  with  the  bill  that  make  it 
seriously  flawed. 

We  have  no  specific  data,  for  example,  on  what  rights-of-way 
might  become  available  or  even  how  much  has  been  abandoned.  We 
believe  that  further  analyses  and  surveys  would  determine  the 
dimension  of  the  opportunities  or  liabilities  such  rights-of-way 
represent.  Such  surveys  should  be  required  before  we  can  under- 
take to  support  S.  1544,  and  they  would  require  close  coordina- 
tion with  other  Federal  interests,  State  and  local  governments, 
and  private  property  owners,  including  the  railroads  themselves. 
We  would  also  encourage  private  groups  to  assemble  data  on  can- 
didate areas. 

In  addition,  and  more  seriously,  there  are  several  outstanding 
legal  issues  related  to  the  proposed  assertion  by  the  Federal 
Government  to  reclaim  title  to  some  of  these  rights-of-way. 
Although  we  are  certainly  willing  to  release  whatever  interest 
the  Federal  Government  may  have,  if  any,  in  the  surface  rights  to 
such  property  for  the  purposes  envisioned  by  S.  1544,  it  is 
unclear  what  these  rights  may  be.  Our  Departmental  Solicitor's 
office  has  been  studying  this  question,  and  the  results  appear  to 
be  mixed. 

In  some  jurisdictions,  the  right-of-way  has  been  construed  as 
creating  a  type  of  limited  fee  title  for  the  property  owner,  thus 


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leaving  some  interest  in  the  original  grantor  (the  Federal 
Government),  and  adjacent  property  owners  could  not  expect  that 
they  would  have  ownership  rights  to  the  abandoned  right-of-way. 
In  other  jurisdictions,  however,  it  has  been  determined  that  the 
right-of-way  is  simply  an  easement  over  land  owned  by  the  under- 
lying property  owner.  In  these  cases,  the  Federal  Government 
retains  no  right  to  assert  title  to  the  property  unless  it  is  on 
Federal  land.  The  right-of-way  would  no  longer  exist,  and  the 
underlying  property  owner  would  no  longer  carry  this  burden  on 
his  property.  Therefore,  upon  abandonment,  such  property  would 
normally  revert  to  that  property  owner.  Many  adjacent  property 
owners  evidently  have  past  assurances  from  the  Federal  Government 
that  the  right-of-way  is  just  an  easement,  and  the  property 
belongs  to  them.   The  1922  Act  is  vague  in  this  regard. 

If  S.  1544  were  enacted,  we  are  concerned,  therefore,  that  the 
Federal  Government  could  be  placed  in  the  position  of  asserting 
title  to  that  which  it  no  longer  owns,  thus  creating  an  issue  of 
a  potential  taking  by  the  Federal  Government  of  private  property. 
We  see  the  possibility  of  numerous  law  suits  over  this  very 
matter,  and  that  is  one  reason  we  believe  these  determinations 
are  best  left  to  State  and  local  governments  to  resolve.  More- 
over, we  believe  that  the  State  and  local  governments  would  be  in 
a  far  better  position  than  we  are  to  negotiate  for  such  recrea- 
tional use. 

We  therefore  recommend  that  section  3  of  the  bill  be  drawn  to 
amend  the  Act  of  May  8,  1922,  43  U.S.C.  912,  rather  than  section 
9  of  the  National  Trails  System  Act.  Also,  by  separate  letter, 
we  would  like  to  offer  several  other  technical  amendments  to  the 
bill,  especially  section  3,  to  address  the  problems  that  were 
raised  during  our  review  of  the  measure.  We  question,  for 
example,  the  need  for  additional  authority  to  transfer  or  sell 
any  Federal  property  interests  that  may  exist. 


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We  believe  that  Congress  should  also  consider  the  liability- 
issue,  not  treated  in  S.  1544,  if  Federal  rights-of-way  are 
conveyed  to  a  state  or  other  entity  subject  to  a  reversionary 
clause.  Under  section  8(d)  of  the  Trails  Act,  which  deals  with 
interim  use  of  rights-of-way  for  trails,  the  transferee  must 
assume  all  tort  liability.  A  similar  provision  should  be  con- 
sidered for  transfer  of  Federal  interests.  Consideration  could 
also  be  given  to  requiring  a  railroad  to  remove  hazards,  includ- 
ing toxic  wastes,  following  a  decision  to  abandon.  This  would 
also  provide  assurance  that  hazardous  products  and  materials 
would  not  automatically  be  included  in  a  federally-managed  area, 
with  consequent  financial  exposure,  under  the  terms  of  the  bill. 

Finally,  Mr.  Chairman,  we  oppose  a  new  Federal  loan  program  which 
would  require  increased  appropriations  and  would  earmark  receipts 
from  Federal  property  sales  to  the  new  Trails  Fund  to  be  created 
under  the  bill.  This  would  undercut  the  ability  of  the  Congress 
and  the  Administration  to  make  rational  resource  allocations  from 
the  amounts  available  to  them.  Moreover,  this  would  disconnect 
the  need  for  funding  state  and  local  trail  programs,  an  activity 
which  is  not  a  Federal  responsibility,  from  the  level  of  funding 
provided.  We  also  note  that  the  previously  cited  question  of 
ownership  could  also  call  into  question  a  source  of  Trail  Fund 
monies,  since  the  Federal  Government  cannot  sell  that  which  it 
does  not  own. 

In  summary,  Mr.  Chairman,  we  have  tried  to  find  a  way  to  support 
this  bill  because  we  strongly  believe  in  its  goals,  but  without  a 
resolution  of  these  underlying  legal  questions  and  as  long  as  the 
proposal  for  Federal  funding  remains,  we  cannot  support  S.  1544. 

This  concludes  my  prepared  testimony,  Mr.  Chairman.  I  would  be 
pleased  to  respond  to  any  questions  you  may  have. 


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Senator  Metzenbaum.  Thank  you  very  much,  Mr.  Mott.  We  are 
happy  to  have  your  support,  and  will  appreciate  any  suggestions 
that  your  Solicitor  may  have  or  that  you  may  have. 

In  your  testimony  you  expressed  reservations  concerning  what 
property  interest  the  United  States  has  retained  in  these  federally 
granted  railroad  rights-of-way.  You  also  intimated  that  we  should  do 
nothing  until  that  issue  is  resolved. 

What  concerns  me  is  that  each  year  this  committee  is  called 
upon  to  pass  legislation  releasing  the  Federal  interest  in  these 
rights-of-way.  In  the  last  Congress  we  passed  several  bills  to  clarify 
title  and  release  the  Federal  interest  in  railroad  rights-of-way.  That 
is  how,  frankly,  I  became  interested  in  this  situation  in  the  first 
place. 

How  would  you  suggest  that  we  resolve  that  issue? 

Mr.  Mott.  My  suggestion,  Mr.  Chairman,  is  that  if  you  have 
some  questions  with  regard  to  this  legal  issue,  which  is  complicat- 
ed, as  I  understand  it,  that  you  address  a  letter  to  the  Solicitor's 
office  and  ask  them  for  clarification  of  their  reasons  relative  to  this 
particular  subject. 

Senator  Metzenbaum.  Is  it  my  understanding  that  the  Solicitor 
is  coming  forward  with  some  suggested  amendments  to  the  bill? 

Mr.  Mott.  Yes,  that  is  my  understanding.  I  understand  that  you 
have  written  a  letter  to  the  Solicitor's  office  asking  some  detailed 
questions,  and  that  they  are  prepared  to  answer  those  and  may 
have  the  answers  to  you  either  today  or  tomorrow. 

Senator  Metzenbaum.  So  they  will  be  forthcoming  shortly. 

Mr.  Mott.  That  is  correct. 

Senator  Metzenbaum.  I  am  advised  by  staff  that  we  received 
those  just  today,  as  a  matter  of  fact. 

[The  letters  follow:] 


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HOWARD  M   MFT;ENBAUM.  OHIO.  CHAIRMAN 


em  flRAOlEt.  NEW  JERSev 
JEFF  b:(vcaman.  new  MEXrCO 
WYCNE  FOWLER.  JR..  GEORGIA 


DON  NICKIES    OKLAHOMA 

LOWELL?   WEICKER.  JR.  CONNECTICUT 

DANIEL  J.  EVANS.  WASHINGTON 


Bnitei  States  Senate 

SUBCOMMITTEE  ON 

ENERGY  REGULATION  AND  CONSERVATION 

COMMITTEE  ON 

ENERGY  AND  NATURAL  RESOURCES 

Washincton.  DC  20e  10 

February  19,  1988 


Mr.  Robert  F.  Burford 

Director 

Bureau  of  Land  Management 

Department  of  Interior 

18th  ^nd  C  Streets,  NW 

Washington,  D.C.   20240 

Dear    Mr .    Burford : 

The  Senate  Subcommittee  on  Public  Lands,  National  Parks  and 
Forests,  of  the  Committee  on  Energy  and  Natural  Resources,  will 
hold  a  hearing  on  March  3,  1988,  on  S.  1544,  legislation  v;hich  I 
have  introduced  to  amend  the  National  Trails  System  Act. 
Specifically,  the  bill  retains  a  federal  interest  in  certain 
federally  granted  railroad  rights-of-way  for  conversion  to 
recreational  trails. 


In  anticipation  of  that  hearing,  I  am  requesting  that  you 
answer  the  following  questions  in  order  to  clarify  your  position 
on  federally  granted  rights-of-way.   To  the  extent  that  a 
specific  reference  is  required  with  respect  to  proposed  changes 
in  regulation  of  the  rights-of-way,  you  should  focus  on  the  kinds 
of  regulation  embodied  in  the  pending  legislation,  S.  1544,  a 
copy  of  which  I  have  enclosed. 

1.  Does  the  U.S.  own  a  fee  interest  in  abandoned  pre-1871 
rights-of-way  notwithstanding  a  patent  to  an  adjacent  landowner 
subsequent  to  the  right-of-way  grant? 

2.  What  is  the  nature  of  the  U.S.  interest  in  right-of-way 
under  the  1875  Railway  Act  prior  to  abarfdonment  (e.g.,  to 
minerals,  to  control  the  width  of  the  right-of-way  and  the  use  of 
the  right-of-way)?   Does  the  United  States  retain  any  interest 
upon  abandonment  which  is  marketable?   Do  43  U.S.C.  912  &  913 
apply  to  1875  Act  rights-of-way? 

3.  Prior  to  abandonment,  can  Congress  lawfully  adopt 
legislation  affecting  the  scope  of  its  interest  in  an  1875 
Railway  Act  right-of-way  to  extend  the  scope  of  that  interest 
after  abandonment?   Put  another  way,  what  is  the  scope  of 
congressional  regulation  of  an  1875  Railway  Act  right-of-way 
easement? 


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Mr.  Robert  F.  Burford 
February  19,  1988 
Page  Two 


4.  Is  the  interest  of  the  U.S.  in  right-of-way  under  the 
1875  Act  sufficiently  broad  to  encompass  allowing  a  public 
highway  to  be  located  in  the  right-of-way  before  abandonment  or 
within  one  year  of  a  declaration  of  abandonment  as  provided  in  43 
U.S.C.  912  &  913? 

5.  If  so,  is  the  term  "public  highway"  currently  broad 
enough  to  encompass  public  transportation  as  would  occur  on  a 
public  recreationnal  trail? 

6.  Whether  or  not  so,  can  Congress  prior  to  abandonment 
provide  that  the  right-of-way  shall  be  deemed  continued  so  long 
as  transferred  for  public  recreational  trail  use,  and  so  long  as 
devoted  to  such  use,  without  obligation  to  purchase  any  interest 
from  the  railroad  or  the  subsequent  patentee? 

I  apologize  for  the  late  notice,  but  I  would  appreciate  your 
responses  to  these  questions  by  March  1,  if  possible.   Please 
contact  my  assistant,  Beverly  Anthony  (224-2315),  if  this  poses  a 
problem.   Thank  you  for  your  cooperation. 

Very  sincerely  yours. 


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The  Honorable  Howard  M.  Metzenbaum 
Chairman,  U.S.  Senate  Subcommittee 

on  Energy  Regulation  and  Conservation 
Committee  on  Energy  and  Natural  Resources 
Washington,  D.C.   20510 

Re:   S.1544,  A  Bill  to  Amend  the  National  Trails  System  Act 

Dear  Mr.  Chairman: 

I  have  been  asked  to  respond  to  your  letter  of  February  19,  1988, 
to  Mr.  Robert  Burford  on  the  above  matter.   After  a  rapid  but 
thorough  review  of  your  questions  and  the  related  law,  we  offer 
the  following  by  way  of  response  to  the  enumerated  questions  in 
your  letter. 


1.    The  answer  to  your  first  question  is  no. 
Wyoming  v.  Udall,  379  F.2d  635,  639  (10th  Cir. 
observed: 


In  State  of 
1967) ,  the  court 


The  Act  of  March  8,  1922  ...  43  U.S.C.  §  912  relates 
to  abandoned  railroad  rights-of-way  and  provides  that 
upon  abandonment  title  goes  to  the  owners  of  the 
adjoining  tract  without  further  conveyance  provided 
that  "the  transfer  of  such  lands  shall  be  subject  to 
and  contain  reservations  in  favor  of  the  United  States 
of  all  oil,  gas,  and  other  minerals." 

The  Act  of  March  8,  1922,  applies  only  to  the  public  lands. 
When  the  1922  Act  was  enacted,  no  distinction  was  made  between 
pre-1871  and  post-1871  railroad  right-of-way  grants.   Under  the 
then-prevailing  Supreme  Court  law,  all  of  these  grants  were 
viewed  as  "limited  fee"  grants.   But,  in  1942,  the  Supreme  Court 
altered  its  stance.   In  Great  Northern  Railroad  Co.  v.  United 
States,  315  U.S.  262,  277-279,  the  court  said  that  a  right-of-way 
granted  under  the  General  Railroad  Right-of-Way  Act  of  1875  was 
an  "easement*  and  not  a  fee  grant.   This  threw  the  1922  Act  out 
of  kilter,  as  easements  were  thought  to  terminate  upon 
abandonment.   Therefore,  the  United  States  would  receive  nothing 
under  the  1922  Act: 


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We  realize  that  in  Great  Northern  the  Court  completely 
disregarded  the  Abandoned  Railroad  Right-of-Way  Act 
and  that  after  Great  Northern  such  act  applied  only  to 
pre-1871  grants. 

State  of  Wyoming,  supra ,  639. 

with  this  concern  in  mind,  more  recent  decisions  have  narrowed 
the  gap  between  the  "limited  fee,"  pre-1871  grants  and  the 
"easement"  or  post-1871  grants,  so  that  arguably  no  real 
distinction  remains.   The  difficulty  is  that  in  narrowing  the 
gap,  the  precise  nature  of  the  railroad's  interest  in  even  the 
pre-1871  grants  is  no  longer  clear.   Is  the  interest  a  fee 
(title)  interest,  or  is  it  merely  an  evaporative  easement? 

Because  of  this  uncertainty,  we  believe  it  would  be  advisable  to 
view  the  1922  Act  as  providing  for  a  release  of  whatever  interest 
the  Government  may  hold,  and  not  an  affirmative  grant,  to  be  sure 
that  the  statute  would  not  operate  as  a  "taking"  of  private 
property. 

2 .   The  United  States  owns  the  minerals  underlying  rights-of-way 
granted  under  the  1875  Railroad  Right-of-Way  Granting  Act.   Great 
Northern  Railway  Co.,  supra,  279.   The  United  States  cannot 
alter  substantively  what  it  has  granted,  but  by  means  of  a  1920 
statute,  it  has  purported  to  authorize  railroads  to  convey 
portions  of  their  rights-of-way  for  public  highways  or  street 
purposes.   43  U.S.C.  §  913.   See  also  23  U.S.C.  §  316;  State 
of  Idaho  V.  Oregon  Short  Line  Railroad  Co.,  617  F.  Supp.  219 
(D.  Idaho  1985) .   The  trend  of  the  more  recent  decisions  is  to 
recognize  that  the  railroad  enjoys  exclusive  possession  of  the 
right-of-way  but  is  restricted  in  its  use  to  only  railroad 
purposes.   So  long  as  the  railroad's  limited  use  and  exclusive 
possession  to  that  end  is  not  disturbed,  other  uses  may  be  made 
of  the  lands  traversed  by  the  right-of-way,  if  authorized  by 
those  whose  interests  or  rights  would  be  affected  by  the 
prospective  use.   See  e.g. ,  Energy  Transportation  Systems  Inc.  v. 
Union  Pacific  Railroad  Co.,  606  F.2d  934  (10th  Cir.  1979); 
Energy  Transportation  Systems  Inc.  v.  Union  Pacific  Railroad  Co. , 
619  F.2d  696  (8th  Cir.  1980);  Energy  Transportation  Systems  Inc. 
v.  Union  Pacific  Railroad  Co.,  435  F.Supp.  313,  318  (D.  Wyo. 
1977).   These  cases  are  concerned  with  pre-1871  right-of-way 
grants,  but  the  same  principle  applies  to  the  right-of-way 
easements  granted  under  the  1875  Act.   Great  Northern  Railway 
Co. ,  supra. 

As  noted  above,  the  Supreme  Court  has  vacillated  as  to  the  nature 
of  the  right-of-way  grants  made  under  the  1875  Railroad  Right- 
of-Way  Act.   And,  as  pointed  out,  today  there  is  a  judicial 
tendency  favoring  the  concept  that  really  no  distinction  exists 
between  pre-1871  and  post-1871  rights-of-way,  the  theory  being 
that  railroad  rights-of-way  are  unique  in  the  sense  that  railroad 


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operations  require  exclusive  possession  of  the  rights-of-way 
lands  albeit  for  a  limited  right  of  use.   If  these  rights-of-way 
are  viewed  as  merely  'easements,"  in  the  conventional  sense  of 
that  term,  the  right-of-way  ceases  to  exist  upon  abandonment 
and,  therefore,  nothing  reverts  to  the  Government.   City  of 
Aberdeen  v.  Chicago  &  North  Western  Transportation  Co.,  602  F. 
Supp.  589,  593  (D.S.D.  1984).   If,  on  the  other  hand,  the  hybrid 
interpretation  (exclusive  possession  —  limited  use)  is  followed, 
a  "retained  interest"  in  the  United  States  is  found,  for  purposes 
of  the  1922  Act,  43  U.S.C.  §  912.   State  of  Idaho  v.  Oregon 
Short  Line  Railroad  Co.,  Civ.  No.  83-1473  (D.  Idaho  1985),  not 
reported,  but  referenced  at  617  F.  Supp.  213  (D.  Idaho  1985) . 

3 .  In  response  to  this  question  we  would  first  note  that 
Congress  cannot  take  away  vested  property  rights  without  payment 
of  just  compensation.   Similarly,  the  United  States  can  resort  to 
the  courts  to  enforce  the  terms  of  a  federal  right-of-way  grant. 

4.  See  the  answer  to  question  No.  2  above.   If,  before 
abandonment,  the  highway  would  interfere  with  a  railroad's  right 
of  exclusive  possession,  the  United  States  cannot  interfere 
without  the  railroad's  consent.   See  43  U.S.C.  §  913,  23  U.S.C. 
316.   Whether  a  highway  can  be  located  within  one  year  after 
abandonment,  pursuant  to  43  U.S.C.  §  912,  depends  on  whether  the 
United  States  is  held  to  have  a  "retained  interest." 

5.  The  expression  "public  highway*  in  this  question  presumably 
refers  to  the  same  expression  as  found  in  the  1922  Act,  43  U.S.C. 
§  912.   An  examination  of  the  legislative  history  would  be 
necessary  to  determine  what  Congress  intended  when  it  used  this 
term  in  the  1922  Act.   In  State  of  Idaho  v.  Oregon  Short  Line 
Railroad  Co. ,  supra  (not  reported) ,  the  court  said: 

With  the  relatively  recent  advent  of  the  automobile, 
the  66th  and  67th  Congress  obviously  perceived  the 
rising  importance  of  highway  transportation;  and  acted 
to  preserve,  where  possible,  railroad  rights-of-way 
for  such  use.   For  primarily  that  purpose,  §§  912,  913 
and  316  were  enacted. 

Presumably,  the  greater  (automotive)  use  would  embrace  the  lesser 
(non-automotive)  use.   Both  uses,  of  course,  ean  include 
recreational  activities. 

6.  I  understand  this  question  to  contemplate  post  abandonment 
recreational  trail  use.   At  the  present  time,  we  cannot  foresee 
how  a  given  court  might  construe  the  right-of-way  interest  as  a 
retained  interest  or  an  easement.   If  the  "retained  interest" 
interpretation  of  43  U.S.C.  §  912  prevails  in  court,  then 
Congress  could  amend  that  statute  prospectively  to  provide  for 
recreational  trail  use  of  the  "retained  interest"  under  such 
conditions  and  on  such  terms  as  it  deems  appropriate.   The  same 


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observation  applies  if  the  statute  were  construed  to  operate  as  a 
release  of  whatever  interest  the  government  might  have.   If,  in 
contrast,  a  court  should  construe  the  right-of-way  as  simply  a 
common  law  easement,  no  interest  in  the  land  would  revert  to  the 
United  States. 

Given  the  short  amount  of  time  we  have  had  to  research  this 
matter,  we  would  be  happy  to  cooperate  in  answering  any  further 
questions  that  you  may  have. 


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Thomas  L.  Sansonetti 
u^gZi^f  Associate  Solicitor 
^   Energy  and  Resources 


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United  States  Department  of  the  Interior 

OFFICE  OF  THE  SOLICITOR 
WASHINGTON,  D.C.    20240 


cLc.so.oooi  MAR     3  I98g 

The  Honorable  Howard  M.  Metzenbaum 
Chairman,  U.S.  Senate  Subcoimnittee 

on  Energy  Regulation  and  Conservation 
Committee  on  Energy  and  Natural  Resources 
Washington,  D.C.   20510 

Re:   S.1544,  A  Bill  to  Amend  the  National  Trails  System  Act 
Dear  Mr.  Chairman: 

On  page  3  of  our  letter  to  you  dated  today.  State  of  Idaho  v. 
Oregon  Short  Line  Railroad  Co.,  Civ.  No.  83-1473  (D.  Idaho  1985), 
was  referred  to  without  a  reporter  citation.   In  fact  the 
decision  was  reported.   The  correct  citation  is  617  F.  Supp.  207 
(D.  Idaho  1985) . 

Near  the  bottom  of  page  3  there  is  a  quotation  taken  from  this 
decision.   The  quoted  language  appears  at  617  F.  Supp.  212-213. 


We  apologize  for  this  oversight. 


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Sincerely, 

Thomas  L.  Sansonetti 
Associate  Solicitor 
Energy  and  Resources 


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Senator  Metzenbaum.  It  is  my  understanding  that  the  written 
testimony  of  a  couple  of  the  witnesses  today  claims  that  the  1922  act 
currently  codified  at  43  U.S.C.  912  forever  prospectively  vests  the 
Federal  right-of-way  and  adjacent  property  owners,  and  that  Con- 
gress cannot  change  this  giveway  for  a  not-yet-abandoned  right-of- 
way  without  taking  the  property  from  adjacent  land  owners. 

I  am  not  sure  that  this  is  not  a  legal  question,  but  maybe  you 
have  the  answer. 

Does  the  Interior  Department  believe  that  these  Federal  proper- 
ties have  been  permanently  given  away  and  that  Congress  cannot 
retain  for  the  Federal  Government  those  properties  where  rail  use 
has  not  been  abandoned  as  S.  1544  does? 

Mr.  MoTT.  Mr.  Chairman,  I  think  that  is  probably  again  one  of 
these  complicated  legal  questions.  My  understanding  is  that  in  the 
original  13  States  the  problem  is  different  than  it  is  in  the  rest  of 
the  States  of  the  Union,  and  that  the  rights  or  the  easements  or 
properties  that  were  made  available  to  the  railroads  prior  to  1871 
are  different  there  than  they  are  after  1871.  I  think  those  ariB  ques- 
tions that  probably  the  attorneys  should  answer  rather  than  my 
trying  to  answer  them. 

Senator  Metzenbaum.  Mr.  Mott,  it  is  my  understanding  the  Na- 
tional Park  Service  has  expressed  interest  in  acquiring  the  D.C. 
portion  of  the  so-called  Georgetown  Branch  of  the  Baltimore  & 
Ohio  right-of-way  which  is  being  abandoned  right  here  in  the  Dis- 
trict of  Columbia,  but  the  Park  Service  lacks  the  funds  to  do  so. 

I  realize  this  bill  will  not  be  up  and  running  in  time  to  help,  but 
would  S.  1544  be  helpful  in  such  situations  in  the  future? 

Mr.  Mott,  In  the  case  of  abandoned  public  land  rights-of-way,  I 
would  think  so,  once  we  clarify  this  legal  question.  This  particular 
trail  that  you  are  referring  to  in  Georgetown  is  a  very  worthwhile 
project.  I  would  hope  that  funding  would  be  available  so  that 
project  and  that  right-of-way  could  go  forward  because  it  will  make 
it  possible  for  the  people  in  this  area  to  have  a  25-mile  hiking  trail. 
I  have  hiked  over  a  great  portion  of  this  area,  and  I  think  that  it  is 
a  very  important  area  to  acquire. 

Senator  Metzenbaum.  As  I  understand,  the  National  Park  Serv- 
ice actually  does  favor  the  creation  of  more  trails  and  greenways. 

Mr.  Mott,  Yes,  absolutely. 

Senator  Metzenbaum.  And  I  gather  that  you  feel  that  the  Interi- 
or Department  agrees  that  this  bill  is  consistent  with  the  recom- 
mendation of  the  President's  Commission  on  Americans  Outdoors. 

Mr.  Mott.  That  is  correct.  I  think  the  only  question  we  have  is 
getting  squared  away  on  this  legal  matter. 

Senator  Metzenbaum.  I  understand  the  ICC  has  at  times  been 
uncooperative  in  helping  to  negotiate  right-of-way  sales  between 
railroads  and  public  entities.  The  ICC  is  supposed  to  ensure  these 
sales  are  made  on  reasonable  terms. 

My  bill  does  not  address  this  problem,  but  can  you  briefly  ex- 
plain how  the  ICC  regulations  are  inhibiting  rail  acquisitions  for 
public  use? 

Mr.  Mott.  I  am  not  sure  that  I  can  answer  that  question.  I  would 
prefer  to  give  you  a  written  answer  to  that,  but  it  is  my  general 
understanding  that  ICC  does  not  normally  think  in  terms  of  rea- 
sonable values.  In  other  words,  the  values  are  placed  on  the  trail  in 


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segmented  parcels  based  on  adjacent  property  owner  values  rather 
than  on  the  total  right-of-way. 

[Information  not  received.] 

Senator  Metzenbaum.  I  realize  you  may  not  have  the  informa- 
tion today,  but  could  your  staff  supply  for  the  record  in  the  next 
two  weeks  the  number  of  successful  conversions  to  public  trail  use 
of  railroad  rights-of-way  which  occurred  each  year  over  the  past 
few  years  as  well  as  the  number  of  rail  abandonments  approved  by 
the  ICC  each  year? 

Mr.  MoTT.  Yes,  we  will  be  glad  to  provide  that  for  you. 

[Information  not  received.] 

Senator  Metzenbaum.  And  can  you  supply  it  both  in  miles  and 
in  number  of  instances? 

Mr.  MoTT.  Yes,  I  will. 

Senator  Metzenbaum.  Could  you  also  supply  for  the  record  any 
reports  describing  the  past,  present  or  future  rail-trail  program  of 
the  National  Park  Service  or  its  predecessors? 

Mr.  MoTT.  Yes,  I  will  be  glad  to  do  that. 

[Information  not  received.] 

Senator  Metzenbaum.  Could  you  supply  for  the  record  any  re- 
ports dealing  with  the  effect  of  rail-trails  on  adjacent  property 
values  and  crime  rates? 

Mr.  MoTT.  Yes.  I  will  be  glad  to  do  that. 

[Information  not  received.] 

Mr.  MoTT.  I  can  tell  you  of  an  instance,  for  example,  that  I  was 
involved  in  California  with  the  conversion  of  the  Northern  Pacif- 
ic right-of-way.  The  people  in  Miranda,  California,  were  very  much 
opposed  to  that  being  a  trail  on  the  basis  that  this  was  going  to 
create  problems  of  vandalism  and  deteriorate  their  property  values. 

That  program  went  forward,  and  not  only  did  it  increase  proper- 
ty values  in  the  area,  there  were  no  vandalism  incidents  that  I 
know  of  in  the  last  5  years,  and  a  lot  of  the  children  of  the  families 
who  were  opposed  to  this  right-of-way  now  are  selling  lemonade  in 
the  summertime  along  the  trail. 

Senator  Metzenbaum.  Sounds  good  to  me. 

I  understand  that  your  testimony,  written  testimony,  indicated 
some  concern  with  possible  amendments  to  address  questions  of  li- 
ability. I  gather  you  and  your  staff  would  be  willing  to  work  with 
us  to  come  up  with  appropriate  amendments  which  are  not  admin- 
istratively onerous  for  anyone,  is  that  correct? 

Mr.  MoTT.  Absolutely. 

Senator  Metzenbaum.  I  thank  you  for  your  testimony  and  your 
responses  this  afternoon,  and  we  look  forward  to  working  with  you, 
Mr.  Mott. 

[Subsequent  to  the  hearing  the  subcommittee  received  the  follow- 
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STATEMENT  OF  WILLIAM  PENN  MOTT,  JR.,  DIRECTOR,  NATIONAL  PARK 
SERVICE,  DEPARTMENT  OF  THE  INTERIOR,  BEFORE  THE  SUBCOMMITTEE  ON 
PUBLIC  LANDS,  NATIONAL  PARKS  AND  FORESTS  OF  THE  SENATE  COMMITTEE 
ON  ENERGY  AND  NATURAL  RESOURCES  CONCERNING  H,R.  2652,  A  BILL  TO 
REVISE  THE  BOUNDARIES  OF  SALEM  MARITIME  NATIONAL  HISTORIC  SITE  IN 
THE  COMMONWEALTH  OF  MASSACHUSETTS,  AND  FOR  OTHER  PURPOSES. 

MARCH  3,  1988 


Mr.  Chairman  and  Members  of  the  Committee,  it  is  a  pleasure  to  be 
here  today  to  discuss  H.R.  2652,  a  bill  to  revise  the  boundaries 
of  Salem  Maritime  National  Historic  Site  in  the  Commonwealth  of 
Massachusetts,  and  for  other  purposes. 

We  recommend  enactment  of  H.R.  2652. 

As  passed  by  the  House  of  Representatives  on  October  5,  1987, 
H.R.  2652  would  revise  the  boundaries  of  Salem  Maritime  National 
Historic  Site  to  include  approximately  0.07  acre  of  land  on  the 
corner  of  Derby  Street  and  Palfrey  Court  in  the  Derby  Street 
Historic  District.  On  this  land  is  located  a  3-story,  red  brick 
masonry  building  constructed  in  1909  and  formerly  used  as  a 
private  club  by  the  St.  Joseph's  Roman  Catholic  Polish  Club. 

Salem  Maritime  National  Historic  Site  was  established  by 
Secretarial  Order  on  March  17,  1938,  to  commemorate  the  maritime 
history  of  New  England  and  this  Nation.  This  8.95-acre  national 
historic  site  preserves  buildings  and  wharves  typical  of  the 
historical  period  of  the  original  maritime  scene  along  Salem 
Harbor .  » 

Since  the  establishment  of  the  site,  the  National  Park  Service 
has  used  the  existing  park  structures  for  visitor,  operational, 
and  administrative  purposes.  Initially  these  actions  were 
efficient  and  provided  for  a  satisfying  visitor  experience  as 
well  as  proper  resource  preservation  and  park  administration. 
However,  with  the  passage  of  time,  the  visitation  to  this  site 
has  increased  to  over  800,000  visitors  per  year  so  that  the 


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United  States  Department  of  the  Interior 

OFFICE  OF  THE  SECRETARY 
WASHINGTON,  D.C.     20240 

MARII 


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Chairmdi". .  Subcommittee  on  Public  Lands. 

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Ccr.,i.,-t tee  on  Energy  and  Naturaj.  Pesources 
United  Staples  Oenane 
wasr.lngton.  D.C.   20510 


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ht   the   heariuq  oefore  your  Subcomm-i.ttee  of  Marcli  i.  concerning 
.:  .  ^544,  T.he  proposed  "Naiional  Trails  System  Improvements  Act  of 
[■'Jt"     '  this  Department's  witness  promi.:-ed  to  provide  recommended 
ar.ieriCiiier. ts  t.;'  the  bill  that  addressed  our  concerns.   The  amend- 
ments are  enclosed. 


^xncerely 


Philip  G.  Kiko 
Legislative  Counsel 


Enclosure 


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DEPARTMENT  OF  THE  INTERIOR  AMENDMENTS  TO  S.  1544 


1.    On  page  2      lines  5  through  15,  strike  paragraphs  (2)  through 
(4)  and  insert  the  following: 

"(2!  many  miles  of  public  land  rights-of-way  have  been 
granted  to  the  railroads  by  the  United  States,  and  much  of 
this  mileage  could  be  suitable  for  trail  use  at  such  time  as 
it  may  be  abandoned;  and 

"(3)  tne  United  States  should  retain  whatever  residual 
interest  it  may  have  m  such  public  land  rights-of-way  and 
relinquish  it,  where  appropriate,  in  favor  of  State  and 
local  governments  or  other  nonprofit  entities  for  trail 
purposes .  " 

This  amt?tidr.;t-p.t  .itriiies  the  three  findings  that  refer  to  the  need 
for  funding  and  substitutes  two  findings  that  state  public  policy 
with  respect  to  the  use  of  abandoned  rights-of-way  for  trail 
purposes  . 


On  page  2,  strike  lines  It  through  ^b    and  insert  the  follow- 
xn;5,  and  redesignate  proposed  new  subsections  (d),  (e),  and 
'f)  :i:i    ic],     (dl   an'i  (e)  respectively: 

"Sec.  3.   The  Act  entitle:":,  "An  Act  to  provide  for  the 
.•:iopo:::iticn  of  abandoned  portions  of  rights  of  way  granted 
tc  raxlroad  companies,"  approved  March  8,  1922  (42  Stat. 
414;  43  U.i^.C.  912),  is  amendeu  by  inserting  '(a)'  after 
'That'  the  first  place  it  occur;?  and  adding  the  following 
.i^w  .vubseo  r  iijns  : 

■  .  i' !   Commencing  upon  the  date  of  enactment  of  this 
subsecticn,  whatever  right,  title,  interest,  and  estate 
Uie  iJii.^ted  States  may  liave  m  such  rights  oi  way 
described  in  subsection  (a)  shall  be  retained  by  the 
United  States,  except  ro  the  extent  that  any  such" ; 

ana  cu  page  3,  line  3,  strike  "such  Acti'  and  substitute 


n  •  1 . 


.■•    ainendment    changes    the    thrust    of    tlie    /..ill    from   an   amendment 
the   National   Trails   System  Act    to   an   amendment    to   the   basic 
jC/eiiiiii)    ii'iiiidoueci   pub.:,  a'.'    .la/iJ    rights-of-way. 


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Mr.  MoTT.  Thank  you  very  much. 

Mr.  Chairman. 

Senator  Metzenbaum.  Do  you  want  to  comment  also  on  the 
Salem  Maritime  Bill?  Do  you  want  to  comment  on  that  at  the  same 
time? 

Mr.  MoTT.  Yes,  I  would  like  to  present  our  testimony  for  the 
record,  but  just  briefly,  we  think  that  it  is  very  important  to  ac- 
quire this  piece  of  property  because  now  we  are  utilizing  some  of 
our  historic  structures  for  administrative  purposes,  for  mainte- 
nance and  storage  and  so  forth.  Because  of  the  interest  in  this 
project  and  the  increased  attendance,  we  need  additional  space, 
and  this  particular  building  will  provide  that  space  for  us.  We  rec- 
ommend the  enactment  of  the  bill. 

[The  prepared  statement  of  Mr.  Mott  on  H.R.  2652  follows:] 


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:■:■ .        On  page  4.  line  3,  strike  "transfer"  and  insert  "release  and 
quit  claim";  ;.n  line  4  after  "interest"  insert  "  ,  if  any,"; 
and  m  lii;6  ^i  strike  "transferred"  and  insert  "  ,  if  any, 
reJ  eased" . 

Till;-.  ,^,:v.e:idmen t  deletes  language  that  could  be  construed  as  an 
assertion  by  the  united  States  of  title  to  an  interest  m  land 
^•.^..■--     iL  may  net  1.11    fact  hava. 

4.  C  ,  page  4,  insert  the  following  after  the  period  m  line  13: 

"Any  sucn  release  and  quitclaim  shall  be  on  the  express 
condition  that  such  unit  cr  entity  assume  full  respon- 
sibility f;:)r  any  legal  liability  arising  out  of  such 
q'.'itciaim  or  use." 

This  amendment  adds  language  similar  to  that  in  section  8(d)  of 
the  National  Trails  System  Act  with  respect  to  liability. 

5.  On  page  4,  strike  lines  14  through  25;  on  page  5,  strike 
lines  1  through  5;  and  on  page  3,  line  23,  delete  "(1)". 

This  amendment  deletes  unnecessary  sales  authority  and  language 
designating  the  Trails  Fund  to  receive  receipts  of  sales  of 
right-of-way  interests. 

b.         Beginning  on  page  5,  line  15,  'through  page  7,  line  24, 
strike  section  4  in  its  entirety. 

This  amendment  deletes  section  4,  which  establishes  a  new  Trails 
Fund  and  authorizes  appropriations  for  the  fund  and  for  adminis- 
tration of  thic  Act. 


Amend  the  title  to  refer  to  an  amendment  of  the  Act  of  March 
8,  1922,  and  omit  reference  to  the  National  Trails  System 
Act. 


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mixing  of  visitor  and  administrative  functions  within  historic 
structures  has  resulted  in  a  diminished  visitor  experience, 
administrative  ineffectiveness, and  unwarranted  impacts  to  the 
unit's  resources. 

To  be  more  specific,  with  the  exception  of  the  1670  Narbonne 
House  and  the  contemporary  comfort  station,  park  structures 
accommodate  a  mixture  of  visitor  and  interpretive  uses, 
maintenance  operations  and  storage,  artifact  and  archive  storage, 
and  administrative  activities  simultaneously. 

A  good  example  of  the  tight  occupancy  of  park  structures  is  the 
Custom  House,  a  structure  built  in  1819.  In  the  basement,  a 
maintenance  shop  is  located  along  with  interpretive  staff  offices 
and  artifact  storage.  The  first  floor  and  half  of  the  second 
floor  is  open  for  visitor  use  and  park  interpretation.  The  other 
half  of  the  second  floor  is  office  space,  and  the  unheated  attic 
is  filled  with  stored  artifacts.  Park  visitors  inadvertently 
enter  offices  and  maintenance  areas,  which  not  only  interrupts 
work  but  also  creates  inconvenience  and  confusion  for  the 
visitor.  Therefore,  the  inclusion  of  St.  Joseph's  Hall  would 
provide  the  flexibility  of  moving  the  maintenance,  operations, 
and  administrative  activities  from  three  of  the  park's  most 
significant  structures  (the  1819  Custom  House,  the  1761  Derby 
House,  and  the  1775  Hawkes  House)  to  the  St.  Joseph's  Hall.  This 
action  would  relieve  the  overcrowded  conditions  and  would  greatly 
reduce  the  destructive  wear  and  tear  on  the  historic  fabric 
within  the  park. 

Further,  the  inclusion  of  St.  Joseph's  Hall  within  the  boundary 
is  documented  in  the  planning  and  research  document  approved  in 
1986  entitled  "Park  Building  Use  and  Operational  Space 
Analysis:  Salem  Maritime  National  Historic  Site,  Salem, 
Massachusetts".  This  acquisition,  therefore,  would  meet  minimum 
documented  management  needs  of  the  park  and  would,  at  the  same 
time,  contribute  to  local  historic  preservation  efforts.   Located 


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in  one  of  Salem's  historic  districts,  this  building  has  been 
vacant  for  two  years  due  to  strong  neighborhood  resistance  to  any 
development  that  would  increase  neighborhood  densities.  There 
appears  to  be  strong  support  locally  for  the  inclusion  of  this 
structure  within  the  park  boundaries.  Finally,  the  estimated 
cost  of  acquisition  of  this  building  is  approximately  $260,000. 

As  Salem  Maritime  National  Historic  Site  approaches  its  50th 
anniversary,  Mr.  Chairman  and  Members  of  the  Committee,  the 
pressures  upon  park  resources  continue  to  increase,  especially 
since  the  park  is  participating  as  a  designated  site  in  the 
bicentennial  celebrations  of  both  the  U.S.  Constitution  this  year 
and  the  U.S.  Custom  Service  in  1988.  The  enactment  of  H.R.  2652 
could  assist  in  addressing  some  of  these  pressures.  However, 
fiscal  constraints  may  prevent  us  from  taking  action  in  the 
immediate  future  to  acquire  the  property  proposed  to  be 
included.  The  acquisition  of  this  property  must  be  weighed  among 
other  land  acquisition  priorities.  We  are  now  proposing  land 
acquisition  funds  only  for  deficiency  cou-tt  awards  and  for 
emergency  and  hardship  acquisitions.  We  do  not  intend  to  request 
additional  appropriations  to  purchase  this  property.  We  plan, 
instead,  to  review  the  current  list  of  properties  planned  to  be 
acquired  to  determine  whether  or  not  funds  can  be  reprogrammed 
for  this  purpose.  We  will  also  explore  opportunities  to  seek 
non-Federal  sources  of  funding.  With  that  understanding,  Mr. 
Cnairman,  we  recommend  enactment  of  H.R.  2652. 

That  concludes  my  prepared  statement,  Mr.  Chairman.  I  would  be 
happy  to  respond  to  any  questions  that  you  or  other  members  of 
the  Committee  may  have. 


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Senator  Metzenbaum.  Senators  Kennedy  and  Kerry  both  have 
statements  in  support  of  this  bill,  and  we  will  include  them  in  the 
record.  They  could  not  be  with  us  this  afternoon. 

Thank  you  very  much. 

[The  prepared  statements  of  Senator  Kennedy  and  Senator  Kerry 
follow:] 


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STATEMENT  OF  SENATOR  EDWARD  M.  KENNEDY 

ON  H.R.  2652  BEFORE  THE  PUBLIC  LANDS, 

NATIONAL  PARKS  AND  FORESTS  SUBCOMMITTEE 

MARCH  3,  1988 

I  wish  to  thank  the  Chairman  and  members  of  the  Public  Lands, 
National  Parks  and  Forests  Subcommittee  for  convening  this  hearing. 
I  would  like  to  express  my  support  for  H.R.  2652,  a  bill  to  revise 
the  boundaries  of  the  Salem  Maritime  National  Historic  Site  in 
Massachusetts . 

This  legislation  would  extend  the  boundaries  of  the  Salem 
National  Park  to  enable  Salem  Maritime  to  purchase  the  St.  Joseph's 
Polish  Roman  Catholic  Society  building.   Park  acquisition  of  the 
building  would  enable  Salem  Maritime  to  acquire  needed  office  space 
and  enable  personnel  to  vacate  the  historic  Customs  House  which  is 
currently  being  used  for  administrative  purposes.   The  additional 
space  will  allow  Salem  Maritime  to  exhibit  historic  projects  at  the 
Customs  House. 

This  legislation  requires  no  appropriation  by  Congress.   Rather, 
it  is  a  simple,  noncontroversial  bill  that  has  the  support  of  the 
National  Park  Service  and  the  Salem  community. 

Established  in  1938,  the  Salem  Maritime  National  Historic  Site  is 
the  oldest  site  in  the  National  Park  Service.   It  has  vast  historic 
significance  in  its  preservation  and  interpretation  of  the  history  of 
maritime  shipping  and  commerce.   For  more  than  two  centuries,  Salem 
has  served  as  a  major  port  in  our  country.   Historically,  it  was  the 
only  major  American  port  not  closed  by  the  British  during  the 
American  Revolution. 

Following  the  War,  the  Salem  merchant  and  maritime  community 
established  a  flourishing  trade  throughout  the  worlc  including  China, 
India,  and  Sumatra.   Customs  duties  from  these  ports  made  substantial 
contributions  to  our  nation's  revenues. 

Today,  Salem  Maritime  National  Historic  Site  includes  several 
historic  wharves,  the  Custom  House,  warehouses  and  homes  for 
merchants  and  laborers.   It  is  important  that  the  resources  of  the 
Salem  Maritime  National  Historic  Site  be  prudently  managed  so  that 
the  800,000  annual  visitors  to  the  Park  can  appreciate  its  historic 
significance.   Enactment  of  this  legislation  will  ensure  the 
effective  use  of  the  facilities  for  the  benefit  of  citizens  and 
visitors  to  the  City  of  Salem. 

I  respectfully  urge  my  colleagues  on  the  Public  Lands,  National 
Parks  and  Forest  Subcommittee  to  act  favorably  on  this  legislation. 


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statement  by  Senator/John  Kerry 
Senate  Subcommittee  on  Public  Lands, 
National  Parks  and  Forests  on  H.R.  26S2 
March  ^,  iq88. 


Mr.  Chairman,  I  want  to  commend  you  for  holding  today's 

hearing  on  H.R.  2652.   The  legislation  is  quite  simple  yet 

its  consequences  are  far-reaching  in  preserving  a  piece  of 
American  maritime  history. 

H.R.  2652  has  been  endorsed  by  the  National  Park  Service.   It 
will  permit  the  National  Park  Service  to  expand  its  boundary 
at  the  Salem  Maritime  National  Historic  site  in  Salem 
Massachusetts  by  .07  of  an  acre.   This  action  will  enable  the 
Park  Service  to  acquire  an  adjacent  building,  the  St. 
Joseph's  Polish  Hall,  which  is  badly  needed  to  house  historic 
archives  and  documents  as  well  as  to  serve  as  space  for 
maintenance  and  administration  of  the  park. 


Established  in  1938,  the  Salem  Maritime  Historic  site  is  one 
of  the  oldest  parks  in  the  country.  It  is  located  in  the 
historic  sections  of  Salem  and  sits  on  nine  acres  of  federal 
land.  The  site  is  designed  to  display  typical  maritime  life 
along  Salem  harbor  during  the  late  eighteenth  and  nineteenth 
centuries.   It  is  a  tribute  to  the  ships,  seamen,  sailors  and 


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fishermen  who  played  a  vital  economic  and  cultural  role  in 
Salem's  history,  and  in  the  building  of  the  America  we  know 
today. 

Currently,  the  majority  of  the  park's  activities  takes  place 
in  three  buildings — the  1819  Custom  House,  the  1761  Derby 
House  and  the  1775  Hawkes  house.   Activities  include 
administration,  operations,  storage  and  most,  importantly, 
visitation.   Today,  as  an  increasing  number  of  individuals 
seek  to  learn  more  about  American  maritime  history,  the  park 
is  finding  it  difficult  to  accommodate  the  necessary  multi 
purpose  uses  with  its  limited  space.   Last  year,  a  record 
800,000  people  visited  the  Salem  Maritime  Historical  Site. 
And  with  future  plans  to  expand  and  turn  the  historic  site 
into  a  full  fledged  historic  park,  for  all  to  experience  and 
learn  from,  the  burdens  on  these  historic  structures  will 
only  get  greater. 

The  St.  Joseph's  Polish  Hall  holds  the  key  to  addressing  this 
problem.   Built  in  1910,  not  only  will  the  park  be  adding  an 
important  historic  building  to  help  add  to  the  preservation 
of  this  nation's  maritime  history,  but  it  will  also  solve  the 
overcrowding  and  stress  that  is  currently  agrivating  the 
exisiting  park  structures.   In  additon,  it  will  enable  the 
Park  Service  to  house  and  preserve  ctitical  historic 
documents  and  archives.   For  example,  the  hall  will  be  used 
to  store  and  display  records  from  the  U.S.  Customs  service 


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dating  back  to  the  early  l800's.   These  recordsnot  only 
include  activities  at  the  Salem  Custom's  house,  but  include 
records  from  five  northern  Massachusetts  ports.   These 
documents  teach  America's  history  and  detail  and  vividly — we 
must  preserve  this  great  treasure  from  our  past. 

Salem  has  contributed  greatly  to  American  maritime  history 
and  to  American  economic  history.   Once  a  main  port  for  the 
bustling  and  lucrative  East  Indian  trading  of  the  colonial 
days  and  a  major  port  during  the  Revolutionary  War,  and  later 
a  key  port  for  historic  naval  operations  and  the  Merchant 
Marine,  today  Salem's  waterfront  has  fallen  on  hard  times. 
Wharves  are  leaning  into  the  ocean,  sea  walls  are  collapsing, 
and  historic  forts  are  closed  and  decaying.   But  none  the 
less,  the  Salem  water  front  has  a  bright  and  prosperous 
future  if  we  help. 

The  Salem  Partnership,  a  group  of  business  and  community 
leaders,  including  state  and  local  officials,  envision  a  true 
renaissance  in  historic  Salem  and  Mr.  Chairman  I  too  share 
that  vision.   Private,  state  and  local  funds  have  already 
been  used  to  begin       to  turn  the  Salem  site  into  a  Salem 
Park  and  give  the  community  what  it  needs  to  enhance  and 
preserve  a  once-thriving  maritime  port. 

Mr.  Chairman  and  members  of  the  Committee,  this  year  we 
celebrate  the  50th  anniversary  of  the  Salem  Maritime  National 


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Historical  Site.   I  cannot  think  of  a  better  birthday  present 
than  to  pass  this  legislation  and  permit  the  boundary 
change.   Through  such  action  Mr.  Chairman,  we  will  in  fact  be 
giving  the  National  Park  Service  and  the  City  of  Salem,  the 
necessary  space  to  begin  their  renaissance.  I  ask  for  its 
expedited  consideration  and  thank  the  committee  for  holding 
today's  hearing. 


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Senator  Metzenbaum.  Mr.  F.  Dale  Robertson,  Chief  of  the  Forest 
Service,  the  Department  of  Agriculture. 

We  normally  ask  our  witnesses  to  confine  their  statements  to 
about  5  minutes.  Mr.  Mott  did  that,  and  we  will  put  the  entire 
statement  in  the  record. 

If  you  would  be  good  enough  to  do  the  same,  Mr.  Robertson,  we 
would  appreciate  it. 

STATEMENT  OF  F.  DALE  ROBERTSON,  CHIEF,  FOREST  SERVICE, 
U.S.  DEPARTMENT  OF  AGRICULTURE 

Mr.  Robertson.  I  would  be  glad  to  do  that,  Mr.  Chairman. 

Well,  first,  I  want  to  tell  you  the  Forest  Service  strongly  supports 
the  rails-to-trails  concept.  We  believe  that  converting  certain  aban- 
doned railroad  rights-of-ways  to  trails  would  help  meet  the  growing 
demand  for  hiking  and  outdoor  recreation. 

We  just  have  two  problems  with  this  bill.  One  is  the  private 
property  rights  issue.  There  are  some  legal  questions  about  just 
what  are  the  Federal  Government's  reserve  property  rights  under 
the  various  statutory  authorities  granting  railroad  rights-of-ways, 
and  we  do  not  believe  that  it  will  be  an  easy  or  a  simple  task  to 
untangle  these  potential  property  rights  issues  which  will  have  to 
be  done  on  a  case-by-case  basis. 

I  believe,  Senator  Metzenbaum,  you  have  asked  the  Department 
of  Interior  to  answer  or  respond  to  some  of  these  legal  questions, 
and  the  Forest  Service  will  defer  to  the  legal  judgment  of  the  De- 
partment of  Interior  on  this  matter. 

Secondly,  in  view  of  the  Federal  deficit  problem,  we  do  not  sup- 
port the  Trails  Fund.  I  suspect  that  in  some  cases  the  cost  of  clear- 
ing land  title  and  doing  all  of  the  legal  work  associated  with  aban- 
doned railroad  rights-of-ways  would  cost  more  than  the  value  of  the 
right-of-way. 

In  summary,  if  we  can  clear  up  the  legal  questions  on  property 
rights  and  deal  with  the  Trails  Fund,  the  Department  of  Agricul- 
ture supports  this  bill. 

[The  prepared  statement  of  Mr.  Robertson  follows:] 


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STATEMENT  OF 

F.  DALE  ROBERTSON,  CHIEF 

FOREST  SERVICE 

UNITED  STATES  DEPARTMENT  OF  AGRICULTURE 

Before  the 

Subcommittee  on  Public  Lands,  National  Parks  and  Forests 

Committee  on  Energy  and  Natural  Resources 

United  States  Senate 

Concerning  S.  15^4,  National  Trails  System  Improvements  Act  of  1987 

March  3,  1988 

MR.  CHAIRMAN  AND  MEMBERS  OF  THE  SUBCOWIITTEE: 


Thank  you  for  the  opportunity  to  offer  the  Department  of  Agriculture's  views  on 
S.  1514,  a  bill  "To  amend  the  National  Trails  System  Act  to  provide  for 
cooperation  with  State  and  local  governments  for  the  Improved  management  of 
certain  Federal  lands,  and  for  other  purposes.'* 

We  support  the  concept  of  converting  abandoned  railroad  rights-of-way  to 
trails.  However,  we  believe  S.  1544  would  probably  do  more  to  confuse  land 
titles  than  to  expand  the  national  network  of  trails. 

The  Department  of  Agriculture  would  support  S.  1544  if  it  were  amended  to 
resolve  several  questions  related  to  private  property  rights,  to  delete 
section  4  which  would  establish  a  new  Trails  Fund  and  authorize  additional 
appropriations,  and  to  delete  unnecessary  new  authority  for  the  transfer  or 
sale  of  Federal  property  interests. 

S.  1544  would  amend  section  9  of  the  National  Trails  System  Act  ("Trails  Act") 
by  adding  several  new  subsections.  Enactment  of  S.  1544  would  require  that  any 


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right,  title,  interest,  and  estate  of  the  United  States  in  all  rights-of-way 
granted  to  railroad  companies  for  use  as  a  railroad  or  for  railroad  structures 
would  remain  in  the  United  States  upon  the  abandonment  or  forfeiture  of  such 
rights-of-way.  An  exception  would  be  made  for  those  rights-of-way  included 
within  a  public  highway  within  1  year  after  abandonment. 

Abandoned  rights-of-way  retained  by  the  United  States  within  the  boundaries  of 
a  National  Forest  or  a  conservation  unit  would  be  added  to  that  Forest  or  unit 
and  managed  accordingly.  All  such  rights-of-way  outside  the  boundaries  of  a 
conservation  unit  or  a  National  Forest,  but  adjacent  to  or  contiguous  with  any 
public  lands,  would  be  managed  by  the  Secretary  of  the  Interior  pursuant  to  the 
Federal  Land  Policy  and  Management  Act  of  1976.  Under  certain  conditions,  the 
Secretary  of  the  Interior  would  be  authorized  to  transfer  such  lands  to  a  unit 
of  State  or  local  government  or  to  sell  any  portion  of  the  retained 
rights-of-way. 

S.  1544  would  establish  a  revolving  trails  development  fund,  to  be  known  as   the 
Trails  Fund.  The  fund  would  consist  of  appropriations  made  by  Congress,  funds 
from  the  sale  of  any  retained  railway  rights-of-way,  donations,  and  Interest  on 
the  fund.  The  fund  would  be  managed  by  the  Secretary  o^  the  Interior  for 
acquisition  of  new  trails  or  construction  or  reconstruction  of  existing 
trails.  The  Secretary  of  the  Interior  would  be  authorized  to  make  loans  from 
the  fund  to  qualifying  organizations  and  governmental  units  for  trail  purposes. 

This  bill  pertains  to  residual  property  rights  of  the  United  States.  Enactment 
could  affect  thousands  of  rights-of-way  conveyances  made  under  a  variety  of 


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statutory  authorities  and  require  complicated  interpretations  of  public  land 
law  pertaining  to  residual  rights  of  the  United  States. 

Section  3  assumes  that  the  United  States  has  some  remaining  residual  interest 
in  certain  railway  rights-of-way  which  could  be  converted  to  recreation  trail 
uses.  That  may  or  may  not  be  the  case. 

Upon  abandonment,  rights-of-way  across  National  Forest  System  lands  that  were 
granted  under  the  Act  of  March  3,  1875  (43  U.S.C.  934)  generally  vest  to  the 
United  States  upon  abandonment.  Rights-of-way  granted  under  other  authorities 
must  be  individually  examined  to  determine  the  status  of  the  rights-of-way  if 
the  railway  is  abandoned. 

In  our  experience,  and  from  review  of  selected  railroad  grants  affecting 
National  Forests,  it  appears  that  the  United  States  has  residual  property 
interests  in  few,  if  any,  rights-of-way  over  private  land  within  National 
Forest  boundaries.  Under  current  law,  (43  U.S.C.  912)  if  the  United  States  has 
some  residual  property  rights  in  abandoned  rights-of-way  over  private  land, 
those  rights  would  pass  to  the  owner  of  the  underlying  land,  subject  to  certain 
state  rights  to  use  the  rights-of-way  for  roads. 

The  proposed  bill  would  implicitly  repeal  43  U.S.C.  912,  thereby  reversing  the 
public  policy  set  in  1922  with  regard  to  abandoned  right-of-ways.   It  is 
unclear  what  effect  this  would  have  on  rights  already  vested  under  section 
912.   It  is  also  unclear  what  the  effects  would  be  on  land  titles  affected  by 
rights-of-way.  Section  912  was  enacted,  in  part,  to  provide  a  cost  effective 
and  expeditious  means  of  clearing  title  to  patented  land.  If  the  process  for 


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dealing  with  abandoned  rights  of  way  Is  to  be  changed,  It  ought  to  be  done  by 
direct  amendment  of  section  912  with  full  consideration  of  the  Impacts  on  land 
titles  and  the  potential  taking  Issues. 

S.  15M1J  Is  Inconsistent  with  the  provisions  of  most  state  laws  which  provide 
that  rights  in  an  abandoned  easement  merge  with  the  underlying  fee  title. 
Adjacent  property  owners  have  an  expectation  of  being  the  successors  to  the 
rights  In  abandoned  rights-of-way.  When  dealing  with  potential  clouds  on 
private  land  titles,  we  see  a  compelling  reason  to  be  as  consistent  as  possible 
with  state  property  laws.  This  bill  does  not  do  that.  We  are  concerned  that 
enactment  of  this  bill  will  complicate  land  titles  by  interposing  the  Federal 
Government  in  chains  of  title  to  land  long  ago  patented  from  the  public 
domain.  This  will  inevitably  lead  to  litigation. 

We  do  not  support  the  creation  of  a  Trails  Fund.  This  fund  would  probably  cost 
more  to  administer  than  any  benefits  it  would  generate. 

We  again  would  like  to  empheislze  that  we  support  the  concept  of  "rails  to 
trails".  However,  the  concerns  we  have  raised  must  be  appropriately  addressed 
in  any  bill  that  we  would  support.  We  would  be  pleased  to  work  with  the 
subcommittee  to  develop  a  mutually  acceptable  bill. 

This  concludes  my  testimony.  I  would  be  pleased  to  answer  any  questions  you 
may  have. 


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Senator  Metzenbaum.  Very  good.  Thank  you  very  much. 

Mr.  Robertson,  I  think  that  you  indicate  that  there  may  be  some 
legal  questions,  but  I  would  guess  that  Congress  could  determine 
the  nature  of  the  Federal  easement  that  has  been  granted,  and 
that  if  there  be  litigation  that  results  from  such  legislation  as  we 
enact,  so  be  it.  It  would  not  be  the  first  time.  But  I  think  we  have 
to  meet  our  responsibility  anyhow  and  do  what  we  think  is  right, 
and  then  if  the  courts  rule  that  we  have  overstepped  our  bounds, 
we  can  come  back  and  try  to  do  it  over  again  if  that  be  necessary. 

I  very  much  appreciate  your  support  of  this  bill  and  look  forward 
to  working  with  you. 

Mr.  Robertson.  We  would  like  to  work  with  the  committee  as  we 
go  through  this. 

Senator  Metzenbaum,  Thank  you. 

Mr.  Robertson.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman. 

Senator  Metzenbaum.  It  is  my  understanding  that  the  Honora- 
ble Beverly  Byron  has  joined  us. 

We  would  be  very  happy  to  hear  from  you,  Congresswoman. 

STATEMENT  OF  HON.  BEVERLY  B.  BYRON,  U.S.  REPRESENTATIVE 

FROM  MARYLAND 

Mrs.  Bryon.  Thank  you,  Senator. 

Let  me  apologize  for  being  a  little  late.  I  was  Chairing  a  hearing 
and  then  we  had  two  votes  on  the  Floor,  and  as  you  know,  they 
never  come  at  a  convenient  time. 

Senator  Metzenbaum.  We  understand. 

Mrs.  Byron.  But  let  me  say  that  I  am  delighted  to  be  here  today 
to  discuss  an  issue  that  I  find  of  great  personal  interest  to  me,  and 
that  is  the  preservation  and  the  expansion  of  the  American  Trails 
System. 

I  serve  as  a  Board  Member  of  the  American  Hiking  Society,  so 
consequently  I  am  very  interested  in  our  Trails  System  and  its 
maintenance  and  the  increase  of  it. 

As  a  hiker  myself,  I  am  glad  to  have  the  opportunity  to  lend  my 
support  to  S.  1544,  the  Senate  companion  bill  to  one  that  I  have 
introduced  in  the  House,  which  is  H.R.  2641.  And  these  bills,  as 
many  already  know,  would  provide  for  the  conversion  of  abandoned 
rail  right-of-way  to  trails  use  whenever  possible.  When  such  a  con- 
version is  not  feasible,  the  right-of-way  can  be  sold,  the  proceeds  of 
which  would  be  placed  in  a  trust  fund  to  be  used  for  the  purchase 
of  land  for  trails  nationwide. 

I  think  the  conversion  of  the  right-of-way  bill  is  an  issue,  one 
that  very  few  can  argue  with.  And  I  think  the  lands  were  original- 
ly given  by  the  government  to  the  railroad  companies  in  the 
heyday  of  our  rail  expansion  for  the  purpose  of  rail  construction. 
Since  that  time,  as  we  know,  many,  many  miles  of  right-of-ways 
have  been  abandoned,  and  I  think  we  should  once  again  put  them 
back  to  good  use  for  the  public. 

Many  of  these  tracts  lend  themselves  extremely  well  to  conver- 
sion, and  what  better  way  to  make  use  of  those  lands  than  to  meet 
the  growing  demand  that  we  are  seeing  for  trails  brought  forth  by 
the  Americans'  most  popular  outdoor  fitness  pastime. 


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With  the  proper  program  to  facilitate  the  conversions  of  these 
miles,  the  possibilities  are  endless.  I  think  one  of  the  most  signifi- 
cant aspects  of  this  legislation  is  it  recognizes  the  role  that  the 
State  and  the  local  governments  and  the  organizations  can  play  in 
the  trail  development  stage. 

State  and  local  agreements  often  do  not  have  the  ability  to  ac- 
quire the  lands  for  trail  development  on  their  own,  and  so  these 
two  bills  enable  the  Secretary  of  Interior  to  allow  States  and  local 
governments  to  manage  portions  of  the  right-of-way.  Such  a  system 
enables  our  State  and  local  governments  and  organizations  to  ac- 
quire trail  lands  which  otherwise  they  would  not  ever  be  able  to 
achieve. 

The  bill's  revolving  loan  fund  would  also  serve  as  a  means  by 
which  State  and  local  governments  and  trail  groups  could  purchase 
trails.  In  many  instances  a  local  government  or  organization  is  not 
able  to  muster  the  funds  necessary  in  the  restrictive  time  period 
that  the  Interstate  Commerce  Commission  allows.  The  loan  fund 
would  give  these  groups  greater  flexibility  and  much  more  time  to 
coordinate  the  monies  that  they  know  they  have  access  to  but  per- 
haps not  at  a  short  notice  of  time. 

Furthermore,  sums  borrowed  from  the  fund  would  be  paid  back 
for  others  to  use. 

I  think  we  have  seen  in  the  last  20  years  a  tremendous  number 
of  Americans  participating  in  hiking  or  walking  for  pleasure.  It  has 
almost  more  than  tripled  than  in  the  past,  while  we  find  runners, 
bikers,  and  horseback  riders  are  now  approaching  many  of  their 
local  elected  officials  with  a  unified  voice  on  finding  trails  and 
more  areas  for  them  to  utilize. 

I  think  these  two  bills  provide  a  mechanism  whereby  govern- 
ment can  couple  the  abandoned  rail  right-of-way  with  the  growing 
demand  for  trails  at  little  cost  to  the  Federal  Government. 

I  can  remember  testifying  in  Annapolis  about  12  to  15  years  ago 
on  a  trail  right-of-way  bill  for  the  Maryland  State  Physical  Fitness 
Commission,  so  it  is  not  something  that  I  have  gotten  involved  in 
just  recently.  It  goes  way  back. 

Mr.  Chairman,  in  closing,  I  would  like  to  say  that  I  am  very  ex- 
cited about  the  prospect  of  your  legislation.  As  you  know,  we  will 
be  holding  hearings  on  our  side  in  the  Parks  and  Public  Lands  Sub- 
committee on  March  17,  and  I  very  much  look  forward  to  a  positive 
effect  on  these  two  bills  with  the  development  of  our  trail  network 
and  trail  system  nationwide. 

[The  prepared  statement  with  attachment  submitted  by  Mrs. 
Byron  follows:] 


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STATEMENT  FOR  REPRESENTATIVE  BEVERLY  BYRON 
SENATE  RAILS  TO  TRAILS  HEARING,  S.1544 
MARCH  3,  1988 

THANK  YOU,  MR.  CHAIRMAN. 

I  AM  PLEASED  TO  BE  HERE  TO  DISCUSS  AN  ISSUE  OF  GREAT  PERSONAL 
INTEREST  TO  ME--THE  PRESERVATION  AND  EXPANSION  OF  AMERICAN 
TRAILS.  AS  A  HIKER  MYSELF,  I  AM  ESPECIALLY  GLAD  TO  HAVE  THE 
OPPORTUNITY  TO  LEND  MY  SUPPORT  TO  S.154  4,  THE  SENATE  COMPANION 
TO  A  BILL  THAT  I  HAVE  INTRODUCED,  H.R.  2641.  THESE  BILLS,  AS 
MANY  HERE  ALREADY  KNOW,  WOULD  PROVIDE  FOR  THE  CONVERSION  OF 
ABANDONED  RAIL  RIGHTS-OF-WAY  TO  TRAIL  USE  WHENEVER  POSSIBLE. 
WHEN  SUCH  A  CONVERSION  IS  NOT  FEASIBLE,  THE  RIGHT-OF-  WAY  CAN  BE 
SOLD,  THE  PROCEEDS  FROM  WHICH  WOULD  BE  PLACED  IN  A  TRUST  FUND  TO 
BE  USED  FOR  THE  PURCHASE  OF  LAND  FOR  TRAILS  NATIONWIDE. 

IN  MY  EYES,  THE  CONVERSION  OF  THE  RIGHTS-OF-WAY  IS  AN  ISSUE  WITH 
WHICH  FEW  CAN  ARGUE.  THESE  LANDS  WERE  ORIGINALLY  GIVEN  BY  THE 
GOVERNMENT  TO  THE  RAILROAD  COMPANIES  IN  THE  HEYDAY  OF  RAIL 
EXPANSION  FOR  THE  PURPOSE  OF  RAIL  CONSTRUCTION.  SINCE  THAT 
TIME,  MANY  MILES  OF  THE  ISSUED  RIGHTS-OF-WAY  HAVE  BEEN  ABANDONED 
AND  SHOULD  NOW  BE  PUT  TO  GOOD  PUBLIC  USE. 

MANY  OF  THESE  TRACTS  LEND  THEMSELVES  WELL  TO  TRAIL  CONVERSION... 
AND  WHAT  BETTER  WAY  TO  MAKE  USE  OF  THESE  LANDS  THAN  TO  MEET  THE 
GROWING  DEMAND  FOR  TRAILS  BROUGHT  FORTH  BY  AMERICA'S  MOST 
POPULAR  OUTDOOR  FITNESS  PASTIMES? 

WITH  THE  PROPER  PROGRAM  TO  FACILITATE  THE  CONVERSION  OF  THESE 
MILES,  THE  POSSIBILITIES  ARE  ENDLESS.  PERHAPS  ONE  OF  THE  MOST 
SIGNIFICANT  ASPECTS  OF  THIS  LEGISLATION,  IS  THE  RECOGNITION  OF 
THE  ROLE  THAT  STATE  AND  LOCAL  GOVERNMENTS  AND  ORGANIZATIONS  CAN 
PLAY  IN  TRAIL  DEVELOPMENT. 

STATE  AND  LOCAL  GOVERNMENTS  OFTEN  DO  NOT  HAVE  THE  ABILITY  TO 
ACQUIRE  LANDS  FOR  TRAIL  DEVELOPMENT  ON  THEIR  OWN.  S.  1544  AND 
H.R.  2641  ENABLE  THE  SECRETARY  OF  THE  INTERIOR  TO  ALLOW  STATE 
AND  LOCAL  GOVERNMENTS  TO  MANAGE  PORTIONS  OF  RIGHTS-OF-WAY.  SUCH 
A  SYSTEM  ENABLES  STATE  AND  LOCAL  GOVERNMENTS  AND  ORGANIZATIONS 
TO  ACQUIRE  TRAILS  LANDS  WHICH  OTHERWISE  THEY  WOULD  NOT  BE  ABLE 
TO. 

THE  BILL'S  REVOLVING  LOAN  FUND  WOULD  ALSO  SERVE  AS  A  MEANS  BY 
WHICH  STATE  AND  LOCAL  GOVERNMENTS  AND  TRAIL  GROUPS  COULD 
PURCHASE  TRAILS.  IN  MANY  INSTANCES,  A  LOCAL  GOVERNMENT  OR 
ORGANIZATION  IS  NOT  ABLE  TO  MUSTER  THE  FUNDS  NECESSARY  IN  THE 
RESTRICTIVE  TIME  PERIOD  THAT  THE  INTERSTATE  COMMERCE  COMMISSION 
ALLOWS.  THE  LOAN  FUND  WOULD  GIVE  THESE  GROUPS  GREATER 
FLEXIBILITY  AND  MORE  TIME  TO  COORDINATE  MONEY  THAT  THEY  KNOW 
THEY  HAVE  ACCESS  TO  BUT  PERHAPS  NOT  AT  SHORT  NOTICE. 
FURTHERMORE,  SUMS  BORROWED  FROM  THE  FUND  WOULD  BE  PAID  BACK  FOR 
OTHERS  TO  USE. 


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RAILS  TO  TRAILS  HEARING,  S.  1544 
MARCH  3,  1988 
PAGE  2 


IN  THE  LAST  TWENTY  YEARS,  THE  NUMBERS  OF  AMERICANS  PARTICIPATING 
IN  HIKING  OR  WALKING  FOR  PLEASURE  HAS  MORE  THAN  TRIPLED,  WHILE 
PARTICIPATION  IN  BIKING  HAS  QUADRUPLED.  AS  A  RESULT,  HIKERS, 
RUNNERS,  BIKERS  AND  ALSO  HORSEBACK  RIDERS  ARE  NOW  APPROACHING 
THEIR  ELECTED  OFFICIALS  WITH  A  UNIFIED  VOICE  CALLING  FOR  MORE 
TRAILS.  S.  1544  AND  H.R.  2641  PROVIDE  A  MECHANISM  WHEREBY  THE 
GOVERNMENT  CAN  COUPLE  THE  ABANDONED  RAIL  RIGHTS-OF-WAY  WITH  THE 
GROWING  DEMAND  FOR  TRAILS--AND  AT  LITTLE  COST  TO  THE  FEDERAL 
GOVERNMENT . 

MR.  CHAIRMAN,  IN  CLOSING,  I  WOULD  LIKE  TO  SAY  HOW  EXCITED  I  AM 
ABOUT  THE  PROSPECTS  OF  THIS  LEGISLATION.  AS  YOU  MAY  KNOW,  H.R. 
2641  WILL  BE  THE  SUBJECT  OF  A  HEARING  IN  THE  PARKS  AND  PUBLIC 
LANDS  SUBCOMMITTEE  OF  THE  HOUSE  INTERIOR  COMMITTEE  ON  MARCH  17. 
I  AM  VERY  MUCH  LOOKING  FORWARD  TO  THE  POSITIVE  EFFECTS  THAT  S. 
1544  AND  H.R.  2641  WILL  HAVE  ON  THE  DEVELOPMENT  OF  TRAILS 
NATIONWIDE, 


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To:       Honorable  Beverly  B.  Byron 
Attention:   Beth  Dillon 

From:     American  Law  Division 

Subject:   Taking  Issues  EUised  by  Draft  Trails  Bill 

You  have  asked  us  to  give  you  an  opinion  as  to  whether  a  draft  bill  that 
proposes  the  retention  by  the  federal  government  of  title  to  rights  of  way 
across  federal  lands  constitutes  a  "taking"  of  property  for  which  compensation 
is  owed  under  the  Fifth  Amendment  of  the  Constitution. 

As  you  can  see  from  the  enclosed  report,  Congress  has  at  various  times 
authorized  rights  of  way  across  federal  lands,  with  the  federal  government 
retaining  title  to  all  property  interests  except  the  easement  rights  granted, 
and  retaining  title  to  the  reversionary  interest  when  the  rights  of  way  are  no 
longer  used  for  the  purposes  granted.   In  a  1922  statute.  Congress  provided  for 
the  disposition  of  the  federal  reversionary  interest  in  railroad  rights  of  way 
by  providing,  basically,  that  title  to  an  abandoned  or  forfeited  railroad  right 
of  way  would  be  divided  between  adjacent  landowners. 

The  draft  bill  prospectively  makes  a  different  disposition  of  the  federal 
interest — retaining  title  to  abandoned  or  forfeited  rights  of  way  in  Che 
federal  government  in  order  to  facilitate  their  subsequent  use  as  part  of  the 
National  Trails  System.   The  bill  does  not  affect  existing,  vested  titles,  and 
there  can  be  no  doubt  that  the  federal  government  can  make  whatever  disposition 
of  its  own  property  it  chooses.   Under  Art.  IV,  section  3  of  the  Constitution, 


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Congress  hat  Che  power  to  nake  all  needful  regulacion*  respeccing  federal 
property. 

Therefore,  we  conclude  that  the  draft  bill  does  not  "take"  any  private 
interest  in  property. 

We  hope  this  infomation  is  helpful  to  you. 


V 


Pamela  Baldwin 
Legislative  Attorney 
July  17,  1987 


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Pamela  Baldwin 
Legislative  Attorney 
American  Law  Division 
February  2,  1984 


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Executive  SuoMAry 

During  the  drive  to  aettle  the  western  portion  of  the  United  State*. 
Congress  sought  to  encourage  the  expanalon  of  rallroada,  at  first  throi^h 
generous  granta  of  rlghta  of  way  and  lands  to  the  great  transcontinental 
railroads  between  1862  and  1871,  and  later  through  the  enactaent  of 
a  general  right  of  way  statute.   The  1875  General  Railroad  Right  of  Way 
Act  pemltted  rallroada  to  obtain  a  200-foot  federal  right  of  way  by  running 
tracka  acroaa  public  lands.  Soae  railroads  also  obtained  a  right  of  way  by 
private  purchaae  or  by  exerclalng  state  or  federal  powers  of  eminent 
domain.   Therefore,  the  property  Interest  of  a  railroad  In  a  particular 
right  of  way  may  vary.  The  courta  have  characterlced  the  Interest  held 
by  a  railroad  purauant  to  a  federally  granted  right  of  way  as  a  "limited 
fee'  In  the  case  of  a  land  grant  right  of  way,  or  ae  an  easement  In  the  case 
of  a  right  of  way  under  the  1875  Act. 

Whether  a  particular  railroad  obtained  a  federal  right  of  way  as  part  of 
a  land  grant  or  under  the  187  5  Act,  the  grants  have  been  Interpreted  as  being 
conditional,  with  a  reversionary  Interest  In  the  United  Statea;  that  Is,  If 
the  right  of  way  ceases  to  be  used  for  railroad  purposes,  the  granted  Interest 
reverts  to  the  United  States,  and  Congress  may  provide  for  Its  disposition. 

As  railroads  cloaed  rail  lines,  questions  arose  ss  to  the  disposition 
of  the  lands  within  the  former  rights  of  way.  Many  individual  inatances  were 
resolved  in  separate  legislation.   In  1922,  Congress  enacted  general  legislation 
to  provide  that  former  railroad  rights  of  way  become  the  property  of  the 
adjacent  landowner  or  municipality  through  which  the  right  of  wmy  passed. 
This  legislation  is  ambiguous  in  several  respects,  particularly  as  to  what 
procedures  are  sufficient  to  constitute  an  abandonment  of  a  right  of  way 
for  purposes  of  triggering  the  statute. 

Controversies  continue  to  arise  surrounding  the  disposition  of  rights  of 
way,  because  of  issues  aa  to  the  nature  of  the  interest  held  by  the  railroad, 
the  validity  of  possible  attempts  by  the  railroad  to  convey  all  or  part  of  that 
interest,  ambiguities  associated  trith  dating  abandoment  for  purposes  of  the 
federal  disposal  statute,  and  disputes  between  adjacent  landowners  over  perceived 
entitlements  to  lands  within  •  particular  right  of  way. 


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FEDERAL  RAILROAD  RIGHTS  OF  WAY 

The  Middle  of  the  nlneceenth  century  tdtaessed  •  burst  of  federal  leglala- 

1/ 
tlon  fostering  the  construction  of  major  railroads  In  America.   Many  factors 

contributed  to  this  legislative  Initiative,  among  them  the  discovery  of  gold 
In  California,  the  Impending  civil  %rar ,  the  absence  after  secession  of  opposing 
votes  by  southern  states,  and  a  desire  to  encourage  the  settlement  end  development 
of  the  vast  new  western  territories,  thereby  Increasing  tax  revenues,  opening 
markets,  and  providing  more  adequately  for  the  defense  of  the  West.  There 
tMs  also,  of  course,  the  Judgment  that  transcontinental  rail  lines  could  not 
be  built  without  substantial  Federal  assistance.  The  grants  sometimes  consis- 
ted only  of  a  right  of  way  across  public  lands,  but  sometimes  also  Included  a 
greater  subsidy  In  the  form  of  additional  grants  of  land,  financial  support, 
or  both.   Some  grants  were  made  to  states  to  be  conveyed  by  them  to  a  railroad 
company  upon  completion  of  specified  segments  of  line.  Other  grants  were  made 
to  railroad  corporations  directly.   Usually  this  latter  course  was  followed 
if  the  route  was  to  cross  territories  rather  than  states.  Typically,  in  this 
latter  Instance,  a  federally  chartered  corporation  was  created  by  the  same 
legislation  that  established  the  land  grants. 

SevAal  transcontinental  railroads  were  authorized  %rlthln  the  same  decade, 

y 

including  the  Union  Pacific/Central   Pacific  in  1862,  and  1864,        the  Northern 


y  See  J.B.  Sanborn,  Congressional  Grants  of  Land  in  aid  of  Railroads; 
P.W.    Gates,    History  of   Public   Land   Law  Development,   ch.    XIV   (1968). 

y  Act   of   July   1,    1962,    ch.    120,    12   Stat.   489   and  Act  of   July  2,    1864,    ch . 
216,    13  Stat.    356. 


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3/  ♦/ 

Pacific  la  1864,   the  Atlantic  and  Fkclflc  In  1866.   and  the  T^u.  Pacific  In 

1671.   The  tcna  of  granta  varlad,  but  all  racalvcd  a  right  of  way  and  aoma 

additional  land  granta.   Other,  nontranacontlnental  railroad*  alao  received 

granta  to  begin  operation. 

By  the  tine  the  fourth  tranacontlnantal  line  waa  authorised  In  1871, 
vehenent  oppoaltlon  waa  developing  to  the  rallroada  that  only  a  few  ahort 
yeara  before  had  received  euch  enthualaatlc  aupport .  As   one  hlatorlan  put  It 
when  the  West  "...  aaw  evidence  that  railroads  were  not  prompt  In  bringing  their 
lands  on  the  narket  and  putting  then  Into  the  handa  of  farm  nakera,  the 
Weat  turned  from  warm  friendship  to  outright  hoatlllty  to  railroads." 

This  hostility  was  reflected  In  a  cessation  of  Congreaslonal  land 
granta  to  railroads.    Congreaa  did,  however  wish  to  continue  to  encourage 
the  expansion  of  railroads  across  the  western  lands.   Special  acta  continued 
to  be  passed  that  granted  a  right  of  way  through  the  public  lands  of  the  United 
States  to  designated  rallroada,  but  this  approach  waa  burdensome.  Congress 
had  enacted  provisions  granting  a  right  of  way  for  the  construction  of 

"highways"  over  public  lands  not  reserved  for  public  uses,   and  in  187S 

If 
enacted  a  statute  known  as  the  "General  Railroad  Right  of  Way  Act." 


3/  Act  of  July  2,  1864,  ch.  217,  13  Stat.  365  (1864^. 

4/  Act  of  July  27,  1866,  ch.  278,  14  Stat.  292. 

5/  Act  of  March  3,  1871,  ch.  122,  16  Stat.  573. 

£/  GATES,  supra  at  380. 

1/  See  Cong.  Globe,  42d  Cong..  2d  Sess..  1585  (1872). 

8/  See  e.g.  Act  of  March  3,  1855.  ch.  200,  10  Stat.  683,  and  Act  of  July 
26.  1866,  ch.  262,  14  Stat.  253,  R.S.  2477. 

9/  Act  of  Harch  3,  1875,  ch.  152,  18  Stat.  482.  repealed  and  superseded 
by  Act  of  October  21,  1976,  Pub.  L.  94-579,  90  Stat.  2793. 


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Thl*  Act  granted  a  right  of  way  two  hundred  feet  wide  acroaa  public  landa 
and  aa  codified  at  43  U.S.C.  934  atatea  In  pertinent  part: 

Tbe  riffht  of  way  throufh  the  public  Undi  of  tht  UaiUd  SUUs  it 
rnotcd  to  any  railroad  company  duly  orgaDixed  under  th*  lawt  of 
any  Sute  or  Territory,  except  the  District  of  Columbia,  or  by  the 
CoDfrei*  of  tbe  United  SUtea.  which  shall  have  filed  with  the  Secre- 
tary of  the  InUrior  a  copy  of  iU  articles  of  incorporation,  aod  due 
proofs  of  iU  orranization  under  the  same,  to  the  extent  of  one  hun- 
dred feet  on  each  side  of  the  central  line  of  said  read ;  also  the  rirht 
to  take,  from  the  public  lands  adjacent  to  the  line  of  said  road,  ma- 
terial, earth,  stone,  and  timber  necessary  for  the  ceastmction  of  said 
railroad ;  also  ground  adjacent  to  such  right  of  way  for  sUtion  build- 
ings, depots,  machine  shops,  side  tracks,  turnouts,  and  water  stations, 
not  to  exceed  in  amount  twenty  acres  for  each  station,  to  the  extent 
of  one  station  for  each  ten  miles  of  its  road. 

Rallroada  also  acquired  some  rights  of  way  through  the  exercise  of  state 
po<er  of  ealnent  domain  and  through  the  exercise  of  federal  power  of  eminent 
domain.   In  addition,  some  rlghta  of  way  were  alaply  purchaaed  by  the  rallroada. 
In  the  latter  Instance,  the  railroad  obviously  cotild  hold  full  title  to  the 
right  of  way  and  the  federal  government  none.   In  thoae  Inatances  In  which 
the  right  of  way  was  obtained  by  an  exercise  of  the  federal  power  of  eminent 
domain,  one  would  have  to  examine  the  particular  authority  for  that  exercise 
and  also  the  particular  condemnation  proceedings  to  determine  the  scope  and 
conditions  of  the  title  the  railroad  obtained. 

In  those  Instances  In  which  the  right  of  way  was  granted  by  the  federal 
goverment  either  as  part  of  a  land  grant  or  under  a  right  of  way  statute, 
the  federal  government  retains  a  property  interest  In  the  right  of  way. 

The  courts  have  Interpreted  the  Interest  conveyed  in  federal  railroad 
rights  of  way  In  various  ways.  The  Supreme  Court  has  said  that  a  pre-1871 


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10/ 
Tl^ht  of  way  granted  to  a  land  grant  railroad  «••  a  'Halted  faa",    while 

the  right  of  «My  granted  under  the  187S  atatutc  waa  an  casanent.     More 

recent  caaea  aeem  to  Indicate  that  the  teralnology  aay  not  be  of  vital 

importance;  the  algnlflcancc  of  the  tenia  uaed  dependa  on  the  context  In 

vhlch  an  Inquiry  arlaea. 

It  Bust  be  kept  In  alnd  that  when  Congreaa  granta  land a,  the  grant  la 

both  a  grant  of  property  and  a  law  and,  therefore,  Congreaa  la  free  to 

apeclfy  tense  or  elementa  different  froa  thoae  that  otherwlae  would  apply 

either  by  virtue  of  the  common  law  or  earlier  atatutet.  A  railroad  grant 

alao  may  be  both  a  grant  of  landa  and  a  contractual  agreement  that  becomes 

11/ 
binding  upon  the  performance  of  certain  acta  by  a  railroad. 

A  discussion  of  the  property  law  teraa  Involved  aay  be  helpful  at  this 
Juncture. 

Usually  when  land  Is  granted  to  another  owner,  the  conveyance  la  complete 
and  final.  It  Is  possible,  however,  to  convey  lesa  than  full  property  rights, 
or  to  convey  title  to  a  grantee  In  auch  a  manner  that  title  may  revert  to  the 
grantor  In  some  clrciinstances . 

If  the  Interest  conveyed  Is  only  the  right  to  use  the  land  for  a 

particular  purpoae ,  the  Intereat  la  an  easement.   If  the  Intereat  conveyed 

« 

la  complete  and  Includea  all  rights  associated  with  the  property.  It  Is  a 


9 

10/  Northern  Pacific  R.  Co.  v.  Towneend.  190  U.S.  267,  271  (1903), 

modified  In  Dnlted  Statee  v.  Dnlon  Pacific  Railroad  Co..  353  U.S.  112  (1957). 

11/  Great  Northern  Railway  Co.  v.  United  States.  315  U.S.  262,  271 

(1941TT  ^ 

12/  See  Wyoalng  v.  Andrus.  602  F.  2d  1379  (lOth  Clr .  1979). 

13/  United  States  v.  Northern  Pacific  Railway  Co..  256  U.S.  51  (1921) 


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"fte  simple' •  There  can  be  •  gradatloo  of  Intereece  bctwen  depending  on 
Che  exclusivity  of  possession  granted,  the  duration  of  the  Intereat,  and  the 
coaplctencss  of  the  rights  granted. 

Both  a  'fee"  Interest  or  an  casement  may  be  conveyed  in  such  a  manner 
that  the  grantor  retains  a  'reversionary'  Interest  in  the  property  which 
means  that  the  property  may  In  some  clrctnstances  revert  to  the  grantor. 

A  grant  may  be  made  so  that  It  continues  only  so  long  as  some  use  or 
clrcufflstaace  continues  and  if  that  use  or  circumstance  ceaaes,  then  title 
reverts  automatically  to  the  grantor.  This  Is  called  a  determinable  grant. 

Or  a  grant  may  be  Interpreted  as  being  made  on  the  condition  that  If 
'x"  occurs,  then  the  grant  reverts  to  the  grantor.  This  Is  called  a  grant 
on  a  condition  subsequent. 

The  principal  difference  between  these  two  types  of  granta  Is  that 
In  the  former  Instance,  no  action  on  the  part  of  the  grantor  la  necessary 
to  reassert  title;  title  reverts  by  action  of  law  as  soon  as  the  envisioned 
use  or  clrciaastance  ceases.   In  contrast.  If  the  grant  Is  deemed  to  be  a 
grant  on  a  condition  subsequent,  the  grantor  must  take  some  action  to 
reassert  title  upon  the  breach  (or  fulfillment)  of  the  condition  (depending 
on  whether  the  grant  and  condition  were  worded  positively  or  negatively). 
This  action  usually  takes  the  form  of  a  Judicial  proceeding  to  determine  that 
the  terms  of  the  condition  have  in  fact  been  met  or  breached.  If  the  grantor 
Is  Congress,  however,  that  further  action  may  be  either  through  a  Judicial 
determination  or  legislative  action  by  Congress. 

Although  the  courts  have  struggled  at  times  to  articulate  the  scope 
of  the  Interest  held  by  a  railroad  purauant  to  the  earlier  land  grant 
legislation,  the  cases  are  clear  that  the  right  of  way  Interest,  whether 
limited  fee  or  easement,  is  conditioned  on  the  continued  use  of  the  right  of 


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U/ 
«By  for  railroad  purpoaea.     If  aa  Intcrcat  la  granted  on  a  condition: 

"No  axpresa  provlalon  for  a  forfeiture  waa  required  to  fix  the  rlghta  of 

Government.  If  an  eatate  be  granted  upon  a  condition  aubaequent,  no 

expreaa  tiorda  of  forfeiture  or  relnveatlture  of  title  are  neceaaary  to 

14/ 
authorize  the  grantor  to  reenter  In  caae  of  a  breach  of  auch  conditions." 

Aa  to  how  this  further  action  waa  to  occur  where  the  grantor  was  Congress, 

the  Supreme  Court  has  stated: 

In  what  manner  the  reserved  right  of  the  grantor 
for  breach  of  the  condition  must  be  asserted  so  as  to 
restore  the  estate  depends  upon  the  character  of  the 
grant.   If  It  be  a  private  grant,  that  right  muat  be 
asserted  by  entry  or  Its  equivalent.   If  the  grant  be 
a  public  one  It  must  be  asserted  by  Judicial  proceedings 
authorized  by  law,  the  equivalent  of  an  inquest 
of  office  at  common  law,  finding  the  fact  of  forfeiture 
and  adjulging  the  restoration  of  the  estate  on  that 
ground,  or  there  must  be  some  legislative  assertion  of 
ownership  of  the  property  for  breach  of  the  condition, 
such  as  an  act  directing  the  possession  and  appropria- 
tion of  the  property,  or  that  it  be  offered  for  aale  or 
settlement.   At  common  law  the  sovereign  could  not  make 
an  entry  in  person,  and,  therefore,  an  office-found 
was  necessary  to  determine  the  estate,  but,  aa  aaid 
by  this  court  in  a  late  case ,  " the  mode  of  asserting 
or  of  resuming  the  forfeited  grant  is  subject  to  the 
legislative  authority  of  the  government.   It  may  be 
after  Judicial  investigation,  or  by  taking  possession 
directly  under  the  authority  of  the  government  with- 
out these  preliminary  proceedings . "15 / 


14/  The  purposes  of  a  railroad  right  of  way  may  be  Interpreted  broadly  to 
mean»for  purposes  of  public  transportation.   See  Washington  Wildlife  Preserva- 
tion. Inc.  V.  Minnesota,  329  NW  2d  544,  547  (Mlnne .  1983),  cert,  denied  51  Law 
Week  3919. 

15^/  Atlantic  and  Pacific  Railroad  Company  v.  Mingus,  165  U.S.  413,  427- 
428  (1897). 

16_/  Schulenberg  v.  Harriman,  21  Wallace  (88  U.S.)  44.  63-64  (1874). 


Q(;_/,A/.  n  _  R«  - 


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Congress  provided  for  the  dleposlclon  of  the  federal  revcrelonary 
interest  In  railroad  rights  of  way  In  the  Act  of  March  8,  1922.  As 
currently  codified  at  43  U.S.C.  912,  the  provisions  state: 


Whenever  public  lands  of  the  United  States  have  been  or  may  d« 
rranted  to  any  railroad  company  for  use  as  a  right  of  way  for  Its 
railroad  or  as  sites  for  railroad  structures  of  any  kind,  and  use  and 
occupancy  of  said  lands  for  such  purposes  has  ceased  or  shall  here- 
after cease,  whether  hy  forfeiture  or  by  abandonment  by  aaid  rail- 
ro.nd  company  declared  or  decreed  by  a  court  of  competent  Jurisdic- 
tion or  by  Act  of  Congress,  then  ond  thereupon  all  right,  title,  inter- 
est, and  estate  of  the  United  States  in  said  lands  shall,  except  such 
part  thereof  as  may  be  embraced  in  a  public  highway  legally  estab- 
lished within  one  year  after  the  date  of  said  decree  or  forfeiture  or 
abandonment  be  transferred  to  and  vested  in  any  person,  firm,  or 
corporation,  assigns,  or  successors  in  title  and  interest  to  whom 
or  to  which  title  of  the  United  States  may  have  been  or  may  be  grant- 
ed, conveying  or  purporting  to  convey  the  whole  of  the  legal  subdivi- 
sion or  subdivisions  traversed  or  occupied  by  such  railroad  or  rail- 
road structures  of  any  kind  as  aforesaid,  except  lands  within  a  mu- 
nicipality the  title  to  which,  upon  forfeiture  or  abandonment,  aa 
herein  provided,  shall  vest  in  such  municipality,  and  this  by  virtue  of 
the  patent  thereto  and  without  the  necessity  of  any  other  or  far- 
ther conveyance  or  assurance  of  any  kind  or  nature  whatsoever: 
Provided,  That  this  section  shall  not  affect  conveyances  made  by  any 
railroad  company  of  portions  of  its  right  of  way  if  such  conveyance 
be  among  those  which  have  been  or  may  after  March  8,  1922,  and 
before  such  forfeiture  or  abandonment  be  validated  and  confirmed 
by  any  Act  of  Congress;  nor  shall  this  section  affect  any  public 
highway  on  said  right  of  way  on  March  8,  1922:  Provided  further. 
That  the  transfer  of  such  lands  shall  be  subject  to  and  contain  reser- 
vations in  favor  of  the  United  States  of  all  oil,  gas,  and  other  miner- 
als in  the  land  so  transferred  and  conveyed,  with  the  rirht  to  prospect 
for,   mine,   and   remove   same. 


The  statute  is  ambiguous  as  to  which  conveyances  by  a  railroad  are  not 
intended  to  be  affected:   those  "which  have  been  or  may  hereafter  and  before  - 
such  forfeiture  or  abandonment  be  validated."  The  provision  is  also  unclear 
•B  to  what  proceedings  suffice  to  constitute  abandonment  "declared  or  decreed 


HJ     Ch.  94,  42  Stat.  414. 


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by  •  court  of  coapetent  Jurladlctlon .'  The  Congrcsalonal  debate  on 

the   atatute  waa   limited  and  doea  not   provide  clarlf Icatloa  of   the   Intended 
■eanlng.      The   Connlttee   report    Indlcatea: 

It  (••■•d  to  the  coaalttt*  that  such  abaadooad  or  forfaitad  atrtpa 
are  of   llttla  or  no  value  to  tha  Covamaant  and  that   lo  caaa  of   landa 
m  rural  co«unltlaa   thay  ought   In   Juatlea  to  beeoaa  tha  property  of   tha 
paraoo  to  whoa  tha  whole  of  tha  legal  aubdlvlaloB  had  been  granted  or 
hla  auccaaaor  In  lotaraet.     Creating  aueh  relief   In  reality  glvaa  hla  only 
tha  land  covered  by  the  original  patent.     The  attention  of   the  eoMlttaa 
waa   celled,   howavar,    to  tha   fact   that   In  loaa  caaea  hlghwaya   have  been 
aatabllahed  on  abandoned   rlghta  of  waya  or  that  It  alght  be  dealreble 
to  eatabllah  hlghwaya  on  auch  aa  aay  be  abandoned   In  the   future.     Recog- 
nizing tha  public  intareat  in  tha  aatabllahaant  of  roada ,  your  coMlttae 
aafaguardad   auch   rlghta  by  auueetlng   tha  aaendaentt  ebove  referred   to 
protecting  not   only   roada  now  aatabllfhad  but  giving  the   public  authorltlaa 
one   year' a   time  after  a   decree  of   forfeiture  or  abendonaent   to  eatabllah 
a  public  highway  upon  any  part  of   auch  right  of  way.  19/ 

Although   there   is   surprising   little  case   law  interpreting  this  section, 

the   courts  apparently  have   interpreted   it  aa   intended   to  embody  with  certain 

modificatlooa   the  common  law  rule   that   land  burdened  with  an  easement 

passes  with  a  conveyance   of   fee   to  abutting   legal  subdivision  or   tracts 

out   of  which   it   was   carved,    such  that  when  the  easement   ceases,    the  subject 

20/ 
land  vests   in   the  owner  of   that  abutting  tract. 

Controversies   also  arose  as   to   the  authority  of   the   railroads   to  convey 

all   or   part   of   their   interest   in  the   rights  of   way,   and   the  authority  of 

private  citizens  to  obtain  rights  to  property  within  the  rights  of  way 

through  adverse   possession  or  what  night  be  characterised  as   "squatter's 

rlg^s." 


18/     Note  that  Congress  authorized  the  Interstate  Commerce  Commission 
to   permit  Railroad  abandonments   in  the  Act  of   February   28,    1920,   ch.    91,    41 
Stat.   477,   currently  codified  at   49  U.S.C.    10903. 

19/     S.    Rep.    No.    388,    67th  Cong.,    2d   Seas.    1    (1922). 

20/     See   Fitz.gerald  v.  City  of  Ardmore,   281  F.    2d  717    (10th  Clr .   I960), 
and  Wyoming  v.  Andrue,    supra,   at   1384. 


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The  Suprcae  Court  Interpreted  the  grant  of  •  federal  right  of  waj  •« 

a  unit,  no  portion  of  which  could  be  obtained  for  private  purpoaea  by 

adverae  poaaeaaion. 

By  granting  a  right  of  way  four  hundred  feet  In  width, 

Coogreaa  auat  be  underatood  to  have  conclualvely  determined 

that  a  atrip  of  that  width  waa  neceaaary  for  a  public  work 

of  auch  Inportance,  and  It  was  not  conpetent  for  a  court,  In 
the  ault  of  a  private  party,  to  adjudge  that  only  twenty-five 

feet  thereof  were  occupied  for  railroad  purpoaes  In  the  face 
of  the  grant ... .21/ 

Similarly,  the  right  of  way  purposea  would  be  negated  by  the  existence 

of  the  power  of  Che  railroad  to  alienate  Che  right  of  way  or  any  portion 

221 
of  It. 

Despite  the  limitations  on  the  alienability  of  federal  rights  of  way, 

the  railroads  purported  to  convey,  and  adjacent  lando«mers  continued  to 

encroach  upon  rights  of  way  and  claim  rlghta  thereto.   From  time  to  time 

Congress  fueled  the  fires  by  enacting  legislation  to  legitimize  both 

23/ 
practices . 

Congress  also  authorized  railroads  to  dispose  of  lands  within  the  rights 

of  way  for  highway  purposes.   In  1920,  Congress  authorized  railroads 

to  convey  to  state,  counties,  or  municipalities,  portions  of  rights 


2lJ     Northern  Pacific  Railroad  Company  v.  Smith,  171  U.S.  260,  275  (1898), 
Northern  Pacific  Railroad  Company  v.  Townaend.  190  U.S.  267  (1903),  Kindred 
v.  Union  Pacific  Railroad  Company,  225  U.S.  582  (1912). 

22/  Townaend.  supra  at  271. 

IV     See  e.g.  the  Act  of  April  28,  1904,  ch .  1782,  33  Stat.  538 
legalizing,  validating,  and  confirming  "all  conveyances  heretofore 
made"  by  the  Northern  Pacific  Railroad  Company  of  land  forming  a  part  of 
the  right  of  way  granted  by  the  goverment  provided  that  the  conveyances 
did  not  diminish  the  right  of  way  to  lesa  than  two  hundered  feet;  and 
the  Act  of  June  24,  1912,  ch.  181,  37  Stat.  138  legitimizing  conveyances 
made  by  the  Union  Pacific  Railroad  and  certain  others  of  landa  within  the 
right  of  way  granted  the  Union  Pacific,  and  permitting  adverse  poaaession 
clalma  against  the  railroad  in  accordance  with  the  laws  of  the  state  In 
which  the  land  la  altuatcd. 


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of  my  to  be  used  ••  public  highways  or  streets  provided  the  conveysnce 
would  Qot  dlalnlsh  the  railroad  right  of  way  to  less  than  100  feet. 
As   codified  at   43   U.S.C.    913,    this  provision  reads: 

S  913.     CoDvaranc*  bj  land-trant  rallroada  of  portlona  of  rl(hts-of 
way  CO  Scats,  county,  or  auBlelpallty 

All  railroad  coapaDlaa  to  which  graota  for  rlfhta  of  way  through 
cha  public  landa  hava  baan  aada  by  Congraaa,  or  chair  aueeasaora  In 
iocaraac  or  aaalgaa,  ara  auchorltad  co  ceD*ay  to  aay  Scata,  couoty, 
or  Bualclpallcy  any  pordon  of  auch  rlghc  of  way  to  ba  uaad  as  a 
public  highway  or  atraat:     Provldad,  That  no  auch  convayanca  ahall 
hava  cha  affact  Co  dlalalah  cha  rlghc  of  way  of  luch  railroad  eoapaoy 
CO  a  laaa  widch  Chan  SO  faac  on  aach  lida  of  cha  cantar  of  cha  aaln 
crack  of  cha  railroad  aa  now  ascabllthad  and  aalncalnad.  24/ 

25/ 
Section   16  of   the  Federal    Highway  Act  of    1921  gave   the  consent  of 

the   United  states   to  any  railroad  or  canal  company  to  convey  to  the  highway 

department  of  any  state  "any  part  of  Its  right  of  way  or  other  property  In 

that    State  acquired  by  grant    from  the   United   States ."      Note   that   this 

provision  did  not  mention  the  necessity  for  retaining  the  central  right   of 

way.      It   Is  arguable,  however,   that   because   the   railroad   Is  authorized  only 

to   convey  "property  acquired"   from  the   United   States,    the  reversionary 

Interest  of  the  United  States  could  not  be  conveyed.     Therefore,  either  the 

railroad  must   continue  to  use   the   tracks  and   immediate  area  necessary   for 

railroad 'purposes  or,  if   that  use  ceased,  the  railroad  could  not  convey  the 


*24/     Act  of  May  25,    1920,   ch.   197,    41   Stat.   621. 

25/     Act  of  November  9,   1921,   ch.    119,   42  Stat.   212,  currently  codified 
at    23  U.S.C.    316.        The   Act   of  August    27,    1958,    Pub.  L.    85-767,    72  Stat.   915. 
which  revised  Title   23,  added  the  words   "or  its  nominee"  after  "of  any  State" 
"ao   that  in  those   Instances  where  the  county  or  other  political  subdivision 
is   the  proper  party  to  hold  title  to  the  right-of-way,   such  action  can  be 
effected."     H.R.   Rep.  No.   1938,    8Sth  Cong.   2d  Sess.   107   (1958). 


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CRS-ll 

central  core  that  had  been  used  for  thoae  purpoaea.  The  legliiatlvc 
hlacory  off era  no  clarification  of  thla  provlalon.  Perhapa,  reading 
the  two  atatutes  together,  the  1921  enactaent  ellalnated  the  apeclf Icatlon 
that  the  retained  central  core  be  100  feet  In  width. 

Suamary 

Although  Congress  has  on  several  occasions  addressed  the  disposition  of 
railroad  rights  of  way,  controversies  may  be  expected  to  continue  to  arise 
because  of  Issues  as  to  the  nature  and  source  of  the  Interest  held  by  a  rail- 
road, and  the  validity  of  attempts  by  the  railroad  to  convey  all  or  part 
of  that  Interest,  ambiguities  associated  with  dating  abandonment  for  purposes 
of  the  federal  disposal  statute,  and  dlsputea  between  adjacent  landowners 
over  perceived  entitlements  to  landa  within  a  right  of  way.   Congress  has 
from  time  to  time  legitimized  conveyances  that  othertdse  would  be  Invalid, 
and  In  other  legislation  has  permitted  certain  general  types  of  conveyances. 
The  legal  status  of  land  %rlthln  any  particular  right  of  way  therefore 
depends  on  the  Interest  held  by  the  railroad,  the  general  and  particular 
applicable  statutes,  and  the  facts  (especially  as  to  dates)  of  a  particular 
sequence  of  conveyances  • 

Pamela  Baldwin 
*  Legislative  Attorney 

Amerclan  law  Division 
February  2.  1984 


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Senator  Metzenbaum.  Thank  you  very  much,  Congress  woman. 

I  am  looking  forward  to  working  with  you,  and  I  hope  you  can 
move  it  forward  on  your  side,  and  we  will  move  it  forward  on  our 
side. 

Mrs.  Byron.  Thank  you  very  much. 

Senator  Metzenbaum.  The  next  panel  is  Paul  McCray,  Steven 
McKee,  Derrick  Crandall,  Stuart  Northrop,  David  Burwell,  and 
Susan  Henley. 

We  are  happy  to  have  all  of  you  with  us  today,  and  I  will  ask  you 
to  confine  your  statements  to  5  minutes,  and  if  you  go  to  3  min- 
utes, you  get  a  medal  of  honor. 

Paul  McCray,  we  are  happy  to  hear  from  you  first,  sir. 

STATEMENT  OF  PAUL  McCRAY,  NORTHERN  VIRGINIA  REGIONAL 
PARK  AUTHORITY,  FAIRFAX,  VA 

Mr.  McCray.  Mr.  Chairman,  my  name  is  Paul  McCray.  It  is  a 
pleasure  to  testify  before  you  today  on  behalf  of  the  Northern  Vir- 
ginia Regional  Park  Authority. 

Converting  an  abandoned  railroad  right-of-way  to  a  multi-use 
trail  can  provide  many  unique  opportunities  and  benefits  to  a  com- 
munity. The  Washington  and  Old  Dominion  Railroad  Regional 
Park  is  an  excellent  example,  which  I  am  the  manager  of. 

The  W&OD  trail  is  44  miles  long,  runs  from  the  City  of  Alexan- 
dria out  to  Loudoun  County,  and  along  the  way  it  runs  through 
three  counties,  two  cities,  five  towns,  and  many  communities. 
When  we  are  finished  construction  this  year,  we  will  have  44  miles 
of  asphalt  trail  and  31  miles  of  gravel  horse  trail  and  jogging  path. 
We  estimate  that  over  a  million  cyclists,  joggers,  hikers,  horseback 
riders,  cross  country  skiers,  and  skateboarders  use  the  trail  every 
year. 

The  most  important  benefit  of  the  trail  is  as  a  recreational 
outlet.  It  brings  parkland  to  many  areas  where  none  would  be 
there  anyway.  Whether  the  people  are  out  taking  a  leisurely  stroll 
for  a  few  blocks  or  they  are  on  a  30  mile  bike  ride,  it  is  there  for 
them  to  use  however  they  want. 

During  the  week,  the  lunch  hour  is  our  busiest  time  on  the  trail 
when  all  the  office  workers  get  out  on  their  lunch  hour  and  try  to 
relieve  the  stress  of  their  workday. 

Another  major  plus  of  the  trail  is  the  health  benefit.  Everyone 
that  uses  the  trail  gets  some  sort  of  exercise.  And  the  rail  to  trail 
conversion  is  the  best  kind  of  trail  because  of  the  flat  grade  that 
the  trains  needed  provides  a  trail  that  anyone  can  use  no  matter 
what  their  condition  or  circumstance  is. 

We  have  found  economic  benefits  to  our  communities  from  the 
W&OD  trail.  We  have  found  that  properties  along  the  trail  that 
are  for  sale  put  signs  in  the  back  yard  next  to  the  trail  as  well  as 
the  front  yard  next  to  the  road,  and  we  have  seen  ads  in  the  news- 
paper boasting  of  a  property's  prime  location  next  to  the  W&OD 
trail. 

So  if  the  location  to  the  trail  becomes  a  selling  point  and  a 
buying  point,  then  I  think  this  can  only  have  a  positive  effect  on 
land  values. 


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The  local  businesses  have  prospered  along  the  trail  also.  We  have 
one  little  general  store  out  in  Loudoun  County  that  has  doubled  its 
business  on  weekends  since  the  trail  came  through,  and  we  have 
one  convenience  store  manager  in  Fairfax  who  has  complained  to 
me  that  he  can't  keep  enough  staff  hired  for  weekends  because  of 
the  trail  traffic. 

The  operation  of  the  trail  is  also  an  economic  benefit  to  the  com- 
munity. Many  people  that  have  contacted  me  about  rail  to  trail 
conversions  have  worried  about  whether  or  not  the  operation  of  the 
trail  will  be  a  financial  burden  to  whatever  agency  is  operating  it, 
and  we  have  not  had  that  problem  on  the  W&OD  because  rentals 
of  pieces  of  property  to  local  businesses  and  leasing  of  right-of-ways 
to  utilities  has  brought  in  more  revenue  than  it  costs  to  operate 
and  maintain  the  trail  each  year. 

Some  other  benefits  of  the  trail  are  in  connecting  parks  and  com- 
munity centers  to  neighborhoods.  We  have  ten  such  parks  or  com- 
munity centers  along  the  W&OD,  and  the  trail  also  provides  a  safe 
place  for  people  to  ride  or  hike  or  just  walk  away  from  our  crowd- 
ed, hazardous  highways,  which  are  just  getting  worse. 

Just  being  discovered  is  the  use  of  the  W&OD  trail  as  a  commut- 
er route,  and  the  W&OD  runs  near  four  of  the  Orange  Line  Metro 
stops,  so  it  is  starting  to  be  used  as  a  commuter  route. 

But  the  best  thing  about  a  trail  like  the  W&OD  is  just  the  fact 
that  thousands  of  people  every  day  can  get  out  and  use  the  trail 
without  paying  a  fee  and  without  making  reservations  or  driving  a 
long  way  to  get  there.  They  can  just  go  out  and  have  fun  using  it. 

Thank  you. 

[The  prepared  statement  of  Mr.  McCray  follows:] 


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Northern  Virginia  oarreugwinslow 

'— '  Executive  Director 

Regional  Park  Authority 


Executive  Director 

DAVID  V.  BROWN 

Operations  Director 


DAVID  C.  HOBSON 

Created  under  the  Virginia  Park  Authorities  Act  Capital  Programs  Director 

5400  Ox  Road  •  Fairfax  Station,  Virginia  22039  •  Telephone  (703)  352-5900 


TESTIMONY  OF  PAUL  MCCRAY,  NORTHERN  VIRGINIA  REGIONAL  PARK 
AUTHORITY  BEFORE  THE  SENATE  COMMITTEE  ON  ENERGY  AND  NATURAL 
RESOURCES,  SUBCOMMITTEE  ON  PUBLIC  LANDS  NATURAL  RESOURCES  ON 
THE  BILL  NUMBER  S  1544. 


March  3,  1988 


Subcommittee  on  Public  Lands 

National  Parks  and  Forests 

Senate  Committee  on  Energy  and  Natural  Resource 

Senate  Dirksen,  308 

Washington,  D.C.  20510-6150 

Mr.  Chairman: 

My  name  is  Paul  McCray.   It  is  a  pleasure  to  testify 
before  you  on  behalf  of  the  Northern  Virginia  Regional  Park 
Authority.   We  believe  that  this  bill  is  extremely  important 
to  everyone. 

Converting  an  abandoned  railroad  right-of-way  to  a 
multi-use  trail  can  provide  many  unique  opportunities  and 
benefits  to  a  community.   The  Washington  and  Old  Dominion 
Railroad  Regional  Park  trail  is  an  excellent  example. 

The  W&OD  trail  is  a  44-mile  long  trail,  running  from  the 
City  of  Alexandria,  Virginia,  to  the  Tovm  of  Purcellville  in 
Loudoun  County,  Virginia.   The  trail  passes  through  or  near 
three  counties,  two  cities,  five  towns  and  many  communities. 
When  all  improvements  are  finished  later  this  year,  we  will 
have  44  miles  of  paved  trail  and  31  miles  of  graveled  horse/ 
jogging  trail.   We  estimate  that  the  trail  is  used  by  over  1 
million  hikers,  cyclists,  horseback  riders,  joggers,  skate- 
boarders and  cross  country  skiers. 

The  most  important  benefit  of  the  W&OD  trail  is  as  a 
recreational  outlet  for  the  many  people  of  Northern  Virginia. 
Whether  they  choose  a  leisurely  stroll  or  a  30  mile  bike 
ride,  all  are  free  to  use  the  W&OD  in  the  manner  they  prefer. 
The  trail  brings  park  land  and  recreational  opportunities  to 
conmiunities  and  business  districts  where  none  previously 

IMEIWIBERS  -  PARTICIPATING  JURISDICTIONS 
ALEXANDRIA  ARLINGTON  FAIRFAX  COUNTY  CITY  OF  FAIRFAX  FALLS  CHURCH  LOUDOUN 

David  M.  Pfitzker  Paui  J  Gruber  Barbara  P  Hitdretti  C  Barrie  Cooit,  M-D.  Walter  L  Mess  Dr  James  O  Wiley 

Barbara  B-  Lynch  George  C  Towner,  Jr  Mimi  J.  Welcti  Arttiur  F,  Little  William  E.  Davies  Ctiarles  A,  Bos 


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existed.   Lunch  hours  are  the  busiest  time  during  the  week  on 
the  W&OD  trail  as  office  workers  escape  the  stress  of  their 

jobs . 

Another  major  plus  of  a  trail  such  as  the  W&OD  is  the 
health  benefit.   People  who  would  otherwise  just  sit  around  . 
are  out  walking,  jogging  and  cycling.   Everyone  who  uses  the 
VviOD  experiences  sore  level  of  exercise,  which  in  the  long 
run  can  only  improve  their  health  and  physical  condition. 
Rails  to  trails  conversions  are  especially  beneficial  because 
the  flat  grade  required  by  trains  provides  a  trail  that 
people  of  all  conditions  and  circumstances  can  easily  use. 

The  economic  benefits  of  a  rail-trail  are  not  always 
easy  to  see,  but  there  is  evidence  of  a  positive  impact  along 
the  W&OD  trail  in  Northern  Virginia.   Homes  for  sale  along 
the  W&OD  now  have  "~or  Sale"  signs  in  the  backyard  next  to 
the  trail  as  well  as  in  front  by  the  road.   We  have  even  seen 
real  estate  advertisex.ents  boasting  of  the  property's  prime 
location  next  to  the  W&OD  trail.   If  proximity  to  the  trail 
becomes  a  selling  and  buying  point,  then  it  should  have  a 
positive  effect  on  land  values. 

Businesses  located  near  the  trail  also  have  been 
affected  by  the  large  numbers  of  people  using  the  W&OD.   One 
owner  of  a  general  store  reports  that  his  weekend  business 
doubles  during  good  v;eather  due  to  trail  traffic.   A  con- 
venience store  manager  complained  to  us  once  that  he  could 
not  hire  enough  er.plcyees  to  handle  the  trail  business  on 
weekends . 

There  is  an  economic  on  the  operation  of  the  trail  also. 
It  is  always  a  concern  that  a  rail  to  trail  conversion  might 
be  a  financial  drain  on  the  agency  charged  with  its  opera- 
tion.  This  is  no  longer  a  problem  on  the  W&OD  trail. 
Rentals  of  park  property  along  the  trail  to  businesses  and 
leasing  rights-of-way  to  utilities  have  brought  in  more 
income  then  is  necessary  for  operations  and  maintenance. 

Many  other  benefits  are  derived  fror.  the  W&OD  trail.   It 
directly  connects  ten  other  parks  and  community  centers,  with 
more  planned  in  areas  nov;  being  developed.   The  trail  also 
provides  a  safe  pla:e  to  walk  or  ride  bicycles,  away  from  the 
hazards  of  our  crowded  roads. 

A  use  that  is  jv.st  being  discovered  is  the  W&OD  as  a 
bicycle  commuter  route.   It  runs  within  a  mile  or  less  of 
fear  Orange  line  I'etro  stops  and  connects  v/ith  other  trail 
systerns  to  allov/  direct  access  to  v-.'sshincton,  D.C.   But  the 
bast  thing  about  the  '■:iOZ   trail  is  chat  Lz's   a   place  where 
thousands  of  people  £  day  can  ao   to  have  fun  and  relax 
v;ithout  having  to  psy  a  fee,  as  well  as  x^■ithout  having  to 
hassle  getting  there. 


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Senator  Metzenbaum.  Thank  you. 

I  want  to  say  to  you,  Mr.  McCray,  that  I  think  you  have  a  mag- 
nificent trail,  and  I  think  it  is  beautiful  both  to  ride  on  and  run  on. 
I  think  it  is  a  safe  trail,  although  my  poor  wife  had  a  bad  accident 
on  it,  but  I  do  not  blame  the  trail  for  her  accident. 

But  she  still  would  agree  that  it  is  a  great  trail  in  spite  of  the 
accident  that  she  had. 

You  are  from  Mansfield,  OH?  No,  excuse  me,  Mr.  McKee  is  from 
Mansfield. 

Thank  you  very  much,  Mr.  McCray.  We  appreciate  your  support. 

Steven  McKee,  Director  of  the  Gorman  Nature  Center,  Mans- 
field, OH. 

STATEMENT  OF  STEVEN  M.  McKEE,  DIRECTOR,  GORMAN  NATURE 

CENTER,  MANSFIELD,  OH 

Mr.  McKee.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman  and  members  of  the  sub- 
committee. 

My  name  is  Steve  McKee,  and  I  am  Director  of  the  Gorman 
Nature  Center  in  the  Richland  County  Park  District  in  Mansfield, 
Ohio,  and  we  support  S.  1544. 

Mr.  Chairman,  you  have  made  it  clear  to  us  today  that  trails  are 
extremely  attractive  and  popular  public  recreation  and  conserva- 
tion facilities.  It  seems  that  most  of  these  are  operated  by  local  gov- 
ernments, State  and  local  governments.  But  even  with  strong  local 
support,  there  are  many  difficulties  in  creating  a  trail. 

Because  trails  are  important,  important  enough  for  Congress  to 
wisely  pass  the  National  Trails  System  Act,  it  is  clearly  appropri- 
ate for  Congress  to  take  reasonable  steps  to  address  some  of  the 
problems  relating  to  trail  creation.  And  that  is  why  we  are  so  excit- 
ed about  this  S.  1544  bill,  because  it  has  the  potential  of  creating 
new  trails,  and  also,  I  feel  that  it  is  designed  to  be  deficit  neutral, 
too,  which  I  appreciate. 

Richland  County  is  very  interested  in  establishing  a  recreational 
trail  on  17  miles  of  railroad  right-of-way  belonging  to  the  B&O 
Railroad,  now  the  CSX  Corp.  The  ICC  authorized  the  discontinu- 
ance of  service  to  this  line,  and  we  quickly  recognized  the  recrea- 
tion and  the  commuter  potential  of  this  corridor.  Unfortunately, 
we  ran  into  a  number  of  problems  acquiring  this  right-of-way, 
which  is  why  my  testimony  is  pertinent  today. 

First,  we  had  to  scramble  to  come  up  with  a  source  of  funds.  And 
I  say  scramble  because  counties  generally  lack  sufficient  advance 
notice  to  plan  ahead  for  the  purchase  of  a  rail  corridor.  Under  ICC 
regulations,  we  had  but  a  few  weeks  to  commit  to  this  project 
before  the  rail  carrier  had  the  right  to  sell  part  of  the  corridor  to 
adjacent  land  owners  or  to  tear  out  bridges  and  culverts  that  would 
be  valuable  for  trail  purposes. 

Fortunately  for  us,  the  CSX  Corp.  was  understanding  in  this 
regard  and  supported  extensions  of  time  before  the  ICC,  which  has 
allowed  us  to  go  to  the  Ohio  Department  of  Transportation  and  the 
Federal  Highway  Administration  for  funding. 

Nevertheless,  many  are  not  so  fortunate,  and  the  revolving  fund 
which  S.  1544  would  establish  would  be  an  invaluable  tool  for  State 
and  local  recreation  departments  seeking  quickly  available  funds  to 


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acquire  trails.  Speaking  from  experience,  we  therefore  wholeheart- 
edly endorse  the  creation  of  the  revolving  fund  for  these  acquisi- 
tions. 

The  second  major  problem  which  we  encountered  is  not  ad- 
dressed by  this  bill,  but  I  think  it  should  be  addressed  by  amend- 
ment. We  were  willing  to  purchase  all  the  corridor  from  the  CSX 
Corp.,  all  that  they  owned  in  fee,  at  full  appraised  value.  However, 
the  railroad  wanted  approximately  five  times  this  amount  and  re- 
fused to  deal  further.  As  a  result,  we  are  now  in  a  potentially 
costly  and  prolonged  eminent  domain  action.  There  is  much  that 
could  and  should  be  done  at  the  Federal  level  about  this  problem. 

Mr.  Chairman,  when  a  railroad  line  is  approved  for  abandon- 
ment by  the  ICC,  a  private  party  interested  in  acquiring  the  line 
can  request  that  the  ICC  compel  the  transfer  of  the  line  and  ask 
them  also  to  set  terms  and  conditions  for  the  sale  under  U.S.C. 
10905.  But  this  privilege  is  not  extended  to  public  agencies  seeking 
to  acquire  similarly  abandoned  corridors.  We  think  that  Congress 
intended  public  agencies  to  be  treated  in  a  comparable  fashion 
under  statutes  like  Section  8(d)  of  National  Trails  System  Act. 

On  its  face,  section  8(d)  says  that  the  ICC  can  authorize  abandon- 
ment but  not  before  allowing  private  groups  to  seek  the  creation  of 
a  trail. 

The  ICC,  on  the  other  hand,  takes  the  position  that  they  do  not 
have  the  authority  to  force  the  sale  or  even  to  set  terms  and  condi- 
tions. Why  should  a  public  agency  such  as  ourselves,  seeking  a  cor- 
ridor for  public  use,  be  given  virtually  no  ICC  remedy  while  the 
private  parties  seeking  the  corridor  for  private  gain  may  be  able  to 
compel  a  transfer  at  what  ICC  determines  to  be  fair  market  value. 
Such  a  regime  only  penalizes  State  and  local  taxpayers  like  us.  A 
transfer  for  alternative  public  use  with  adequate  compensation  is 
no  more  of  a  burden  on  the  rail  industry  than  transfer  for  private 
gain. 

Moreover,  preserving  corridors  for  railbanking  and  future  use 
would  serve  the  important  Federal  transportation  policy  interests 
as  well  as  recreational  ends. 

We  therefore  suggest  you  further  improve  the  Trails  Act  with 
amendments  to  existing  Section  8(d)  to  provide  that  ICC  has  au- 
thority and  that  they  know  they  have  the  authority  to  set  any  dis- 
puted terms  and  conditions  on  a  rail-to-trail  conversion. 

I  appreciate  you  letting  me  testify  today,  and  I  look  forward  to 
cooperating  with  the  subcommittee. 

[The  prepared  statement  of  Mr.  McKee  follows:] 


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RICHLAND  COUNTY  PARK  DISTRICT 

2295  LEXINGTON  AVENUE 


(419)  884-3?e4  ^»^ENTE 


MANSFIELD,  OHIO  44907  i^^CfUREZMf 


Testimony 
before  the  Public  Lands,   National   Parks  and  Forests  Subcommittee 

of  the 

Senate  Energy  and  Natural  Resources  Committee 

Steven  M.  McKee 

Director,  Gorman  Nature  Center 

Executive  Director,  Richland  County  Park  District 

Richland  County,  Ohio 

March  3,  1988 

S.  1544,  Trails  System  Improvements  Act 

Mr.  Chairman  and  members  of  the  Subcommittee,  my  name  is 
Steve  McKee.  I  am  the  Director  of  the  Gorman  Nature  Center  and 
the  Executive  Director  of  the  Richland  County  Recreation  and  Park 
District.  We  support  S.  1544. 

Mr.  Chairman,  it  is  freely  admitted  that  trails  are 
extremely  attractive  and  popular  public  recreational  and 
conservation  facilities.  Similarly,  it  is  clear  that  many 
aspects  of  trails  are  inherently  local  in  nature.  Put  another 
way,  trails  are  generally  only  successful  if  they  enjoy  the 
support  of  their  host  states  or  counties.  But  even  with  strong 
local  support,  there  are  many  difficulties  in  creating  a  trail. 
Some  of  these  difficulties  involve  problems  with  current  federal 
statutes  and  regulations,  or  are  otherwise  amenable  to  at  least  a 
partly  federal  solution.  Because  trails  are  important,  it  is 
clearly  appropriate  for  Congress  to  take  reasonable  steps  to 
address  some  of  the  problems  relating  to  trail  creation  which  can 
be  helpfully  dealt  with  at  the  federal  level. 

Richland  County  is  very  interested  in  establishing  a 
recreational  trail  on  17  miles  of  railroad  right-of-way  for  which 
Baltimore  &  Ohio  Railroad  (a  unit  of  CSX  Corporation)  received 
authority  from  the  Interstate  Commerce  Commission  (ICC)  to 
discontinue  service  about  a  year  ago.  Railroad  rights-of-way  are 
generally  very  attractive  for  trail  purposes  because  they  are 
already  assembled  corridors  which  follow  a  gentle  grade  and  are 
ideal  for  a  number  of  recreational  acitivities.  This  17  miler 
running  south  from  Mansfield  is  an  excellent  example. 
Unfortunately,  we  ran  into  a  number  of  problems  in  acquiring  this 
right-of-way. 


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First,  we  had  to  scramble  to  come  up  with  a  source  of 
funds.  I  say  scramble  because  Counties  generally  lack  sufficient 
advance  notice  to  plan  ahead  for  the  purchase  of  a  rail  corridor, 
and  there  is  no  assurance  that  we  can  get  the  necessary  approvals 
and  obtain  the  necessary  funds  in  the  short  period  of  time 
available  under  ICC  regulations  before  the  rail  carrier  sells 
parts  of  the  corridor  to  adjacent  landowners  or  tears  out  bridges 
and  culverts  valuable  for  trail  purposes.  Fortunately  for  us, 
CSX  Corporation  was  understanding  in  this  regard  and  supported 
extensions  of  time  before  the  ICC  which  allowed  us  to  go  to  the 
Ohio  Department  of  Transportation  and  the  Federal  Highway 
Administration  for  funding.  Nevertheless,  many  are  not  so 
fortunate  and  the  revolving  fund  which  S.  1544  would  establish 
would  be  an  invaluable  tool  for  state  and  local  recreation 
departments  seeking  quickly  available  funds  to  acquire  rail 
trails.  Speaking  from  experience,  we  therefore  wholeheartedly 
indorse  the  creation  of  a  revolving  fund  for  these  acquisitions. 

The  second  major  problem  which  we  encountered  is  not 
addressed  by  this  bill.  As  it  turned  out,  the  Ohio  Department  of 
Transportation  and  the  Federal  Highway  Administration  were 
willing  to  purchase  all  the  corridor  which  CSX  owned  in  fee  at 
the  full  appraised  value.  However,  the  railroad  wanted 
approximately  five  times  this  amount  and  refused  to  deal  further. 
As  a  result,  we  are  now  in  a  potentially  costly  and  prolonged 
eminent  domain  action.  There  is  much  that  could  and  should  be 
done  at  the  federal  level  about  this  problem. 

Mr.  Chairman,  when  a  railroad  line  is  approved  for 
abandonment  by  the  federal  ICC,  a  private  party  interested  in 
acquiring  the  line  to  provide  private  rail  service  can  request 
the  federal  agency  to  compel  the  transfer  of  the  line  to  the 
private  requester,  and  to  establish  all  disputed  terms  and 
conditions.  Under  this  regime,  which  is  codified  at  49  U.S.C. 
10905,  the  ICC  does  not  require  the  acquiring  party  to  pay  more 
for  the  corridor  than  the  appraised  value  of  what  the  railroad 
owns  in  fee  simple  title  plus  the  "salvage  value"  of  any  ties  and 
tracks  transferred. 

We  think  that  Congress  intended  public  agencies  to  be 
treated  in  a  comparable  fashion  under  statutes  like  49  U.S.C. 
10906  and  section  8(d)  of  the  National  Trails  System  Act,  16 
U.S.C.  1247(d).  Indeed,  what  is  now  §  10906  was  added  to  the 
statutes  to  confirm  the  authority  ICC  exercised  in  the  so-called 
Kenmore  case,  in  which  ICC  did  impose  an  arbitration  remedy  to 
resolve  any  disputed  terms  and  conditions  and  to  compel  a 
transfer  of  a  right-of-way  which  is  now  Seattle's  famous  Burke- 
Gilman  Trail.  Section  8(d)  on  its  face  says  ICC  cannot  authorize 
an  abandonment  but  must  order  a  transfer  for  railbanking  and 
interim  trail  use  on  terms  which  the  agency  sets  when  a  party 
such  as  ourselves  agrees  to  pick  up  future  corridor  costs. 


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ICC,  however,  takes  the  position  not  only  that  it  will  not 
require  a  transfer  to  a  public  agency  for  public  use  and  that  it 
will  not  set  terms  and  conditions  but  also  that  it  lacks 
statutory  authority  to  do  so.  Why  should  a  public  agency,  such 
as  ourselves,  seeking  a  corridor  for  public  use  be  given 
virtually  no  ICC  remedy,  while  a  private  party  seeking  the 
corridor  for  private  gain  be  able  to  compel  a  transfer  at  what 
ICC  determines  the  minimum  price  required  to  avoid  a  "takings" 
question  under  the  Constitution?  Such  a  regime  only  penalizes 
state  and  local  taxpayers.  A  transfer  for  alternative  public  use 
with  adequate  compensation  is  no  more  of  a  burden  on  the  rail 
industry  than  a  transfer  for  private  gain.  Moreover,  preserving 
the  corridors  for  railbanking  and  future  use  would  serve 
important  federal  transportation  policy  interests,  as  well  as 
recreational  ends. 

We  therefore  suggest  that  you  further  improve  the  Trails  Act 
with  amendments  to  existing  sections  8(d)  or  perhaps  9(b)  to 
provide  that  ICC  has  authority,  upon  request  of  an  interested 
party,  to  establish  any  disputed  terms  and  conditions  of  transfer 
to  a  state  or  local  government  or  qualified  private  organization 
for  alternative  public  use,  including  recreational  trail  use. 
That  would  have  helped  us,  and  it  still  might,  and  it  certainly 
will  help  others  in  the  future.  Unless  something  like  this  is 
done,  many  excellent  trail  opportunities  will  continue  to  be 
lost. 

Mr.  Chairman,  I  appreciate  this  opportunity  to  testify  on 
behalf  of  Richland  County  and  I  look  forward  to  cooperating  with 
the  Subcommittee  in  the  future.   Thank  you. 


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Senator  Metzenbaum.  Thank  you  very  much,  Mr.  Mckee.  We  ap- 
preciate your  being  here  with  us  today. 
Derrick  Crandall,  President,  American  Recreation  Coalition. 

STATEMENT  OF  DERRICK  A.  CRANDALL,  PRESIDENT,  AMERICAN 

RECREATION  COALITION 

Mr.  Crandall.  Thank  you,  Senator.  I  am  delighted  to  be  here 
today  and  delighted  to  share  the  platform  here  with  somebody  who 
manages  a  centerfold. 

As  you  may  know,  in  the  Executive  Summary  of  the  President's 
Commission  on  Americans  outdoors,  we  specifically  talk  about  the 
Western  and  Old  Dominion  Trail  and  have  a  picture  of  it  here,  so 
it  certainly  is  easy  for  us  to  relate  to  the  wonders  of  that  trail  and 
to  the  trails  that  you  have  experienced  in  Ohio  and  the  trails  that 
many  of  us  have  experienced  around  the  country. 

We  simply  want  to  underscore  today  the  importance  that  Presi- 
dent's Commission  on  Americans  Outdoors  placed  upon  linear  cor- 
ridors. We  believe  that  this  nation  is  rich  in  a  legacy  of  National 
Forests  and  National  Parks,  of  wild  and  scenic  rivers  and  wilder- 
ness areas,  and  it  is  our  opportunity  now  in  the  1980's  to  build 
upon  this  legacy  with  the  concept  of  greenways,  and  recreational 
trails  are  clearly  a  major  part  of  that  greenway  vision  that  the 
Commission  spoke  to,  and  hopefully  provide  some  pictures  that  will 
help  to  move  that  vision  into  reality. 

Trails  have  long  been  an  important  element  of  the  outdoors  for 
Americans,  but  the  volume  and  the  diversity  of  use  of  trails  has 
exploded  since  1960.  Americans  today  enjoy  trails  for  traditional 
purposes  such  as  wildlife  viewing  and  hunting,  accessing  back 
country  campsites  and  quiet  overlooks,  and  we  use  it  for  exercise  as 
joggers  and  as  walkers.  We  use  it  to  ride  our  horses  and  our  bicy- 
cles, our  snowmobiles  and  our  off-road  vehicles  as  well  as  skiing  on 
trails  and  using  roller  skates  and  skateboards. 

Unfortunately,  the  growth  in  the  demand  for  trails  has  now  been 
a  major  priority  for  this  Nation  at  any  level.  We  have  added  more 
people  using  trails  in  more  ways,  and  the  result  has  been  social 
safety  and  environmental  conflicts. 

We  have  also  lost  trails  to  conversion  of  urban  and  near  urban 
development,  housing  tracts,  commercial  establishments  and  a  va- 
riety of  others.  We  have  had  budget  problems  which  have  further 
whittled  away  the  available  trail  supply. 

What  we  need  today  is  an  aggressive  effort  to  build  a  bigger  pie, 
a  larger  trail  system  which  provides  adequate  quality  opportunities 
for  all  Americans  in  the  full  range  of  trail  interests.  To  create  this 
bigger  pie,  it  is  clear  that  Americans  need  new  tools,  including 
those  which  you  have  proposed  in  S.  1544. 

We  also  think  there  are  other  tools,  and  we  look  forward  to  talk- 
ing with  you  about  a  concept  for  a  national  recreational  trust  fund, 
national  recreation  trails  trust  fund  that  would  be  able  to  tap  into 
the  more  than  $80  million  that  are  now  paid  in  Federal  gas  tax  re- 
ceipts for  fuel  used  in  snowmobiles  and  motorcycles,  all-terrain  ve- 
hicles and  a  variety  of  other  powered  recreational  devices  which  we 
think  should  be  put  more  to  recreational  trail  purposes,  much  as 


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Federal  motorboat  gasoline  taxes  now  go  to  benefit  fishing  and 
boating  activities. 

In  conclusion,  we  thank  you  in  particular,  and  this  committee, 
for  the  attention  that  you  are  giving  to  the  importance  recreation 
trails  play  in  our  lives  today,  and  to  the  even  greater  importance  of 
adding  trails  for  Americans  today  and  tomorrow.  Increases  in  the 
numbers  of  railroad  abandonments  that  are  converted  to  recre- 
ational trails  are  important,  and  we  need  to  pursue  this  aggressive- 
ly- 

Thank  you. 

[The  prepared  statement  of  Mr.  Crandall  follows:] 


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STATEMENT  BY  DERRICK  A.  CRANDALL,  PRESIDENT  OF  THE  AMERICAN 
RECREATION  COALITION,  BEFORE  THE  UNITED  STATES  SENATE  COMMITTEE 
ON  ENERGY  AND  NATURAL  RESOURCES  REGARDING  S.1544,  AMENDING  THE 
NATIONAL  TRAIL  SYSTEM  ACT.  (MARCH  3,  1988) 

Mr.  Chairman  and  distinguished  Members,  I  am  Derrick 
Crandall  and  I  am  delighted  to  appear  here  today  to  offer  my 
support  for  S.1544,  amending  the  National  Trail  System  Act.   I  am 
appearing  today  as  a  member  of  the  President's  Commission  on 
Americans  Outdoors  as  well  as  in  my  capacity  as  President  of  the 
American  Recreation  Coalition,  a  national  federation  of 
associations  and  companies  with  an  active  interest  in  the 
recreation  opportunities  open  to  Americans. 

I  applaud  Senator  Metzenbaum's  action  to  take  advantage  of  a 
unique  opportunity  to  enrich  American's  recreation  legacy  by 
expanding  our  network  of  recreation  trails.   As  my  friend  and 
colleague  Stu  Northrop  discusses  in  his  testimony,  Americans  have 
dramatically  increased  their  participation  in  trail  activities. 
Accommodating  this  expansion  has  proven  difficult,  especially  in 
urban  areas  where  linear  blocks  of  undeveloped  land  are  rare. 
Yet  where  they  exist,  we  see  both  tremendous  popularity  and  a 
remarkable  ability  to  magnify  the  worth  of  existing  recreation 
areas  by  linking  them  together  with  a  trail. 

The  President's  Commission  placed  the  highest  priority  on 
steps  to  expand  our  linear  recreation  areas,  including  trails, 
under  the  concept  of  greenways .   Successful  community-based 
greenway  networks  can  link  where  people  live,  work  and  play  while 
also  offering  aesthetic,  environmental  and  wildlife  benefits. 
Greenways  can  also  help  integrate  the  bevy  of  public  and  private 
recreation  providers  at  work  within  each  community,  bringing 
about  the  cooperation  and  partnership  our  report  stressed  would 
be  needed  to  meet  America's  outdoor  needs  in  the  next  century. 

The  legislation  proposed  by  Senator  Metzenbaum  and  others 
can  be  an  important  tool  in  expanding  our  networks  of  greenways. 
It  would  assert  the  public's  right  to  abandoned  railroad  rights- 
of-way  across  the  nation  which,  when  originally  established, 
contained  reversionary  clauses  which  called  for  federal  ownership 
upon  abandonment.   The  legislation  provides  for  recreational  use 
of  these  corridors  wherever  feasible.   If,  however,  the  corridor 
is  judged  unsuitable  for  recreational  purposes,  then  the  proceeds 
from  the  sale  of  the  corridor  are  to  be  placed  in  a  special 
revolving  fund  providing  loans  to  aid  states,  counties  and  local 
communities  in  acquiring  trail  corridors. 


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STATEMENT  BY  DERRICK  A.  CRANDALL 
NATIONAL  TRAIL  SYSTEM  ACT  AMENDMENT 
PAGE  TWO 

Trails  have  long  been  an  important  element  of  the  outdoors 
for  Americans,  but  the  volume  and  diversity  of  trail  usage  has 
exploded  since  1960.   Americans  enjoy  trails  today  for 
traditional  purposes  such  as  wildlife  viewing  and  hunting, 
accessing  backcountry  campsites  and  guiet  overlooks.   We  also  use 
trails  for  exercise  as  joggers  and  walkers.   We  use  trails  to 
ride  our  horses  and  our  bicycles,  our  snowmobiles  and  our  ORV's. 
We  ski  on  trails  and  roller  skate  on  trails. 

Unfortunately,  the  growth  in  our  use  and  enjoyment  of  trails 
has  not  been  matched  by  growth  in  the  nation's  trail  network.  For 
more  than  two  decades,  we  have  added  more  people^ using  trails  in 
more  ways  to  our  existing  trail  network.   The  result  has  been 
social,  safety  and  environmental  conflicts.   Conversion  of  open 
land  to  developed  uses  in  and  near  our  urban  areas  and  budgetary 
pressures  on  public  land  agencies  have  combined  to  whittle  away 
at  the  supply  of  recreational  trails,  probably  more  than 
offsetting  efforts  to  develop  new  trails  along  abandoned  railroad 
rights-of-way  and  other  available  corridors'. 

This  nation's  trail  enthusiasts  need  a  "bigger  pie"  —  a 
trail  system  which  provides  adequate,  quality  opportunities  for 
the  full  range  of  trail  interests  today  and  tomorrow.   The 
"bigger  pie"  will  allow  each  trail  interest  to  have  the  slice  of 
the  trail  network  it  needs  without  robbing  another  trail 
interest. 

To  create  the  "bigger  pie,"  America's  trails  need  new 
"tools",  including  those  proposed  by  S.  1544.   With  dependable 
funding  for  corridor  acquisition,  development  and  operation,  a 
forum  which  draws  together  all  trail  interests  and  appropriate 
public  agencies,  and  lots  of  local  energies,  Americans  of  this 
generation  can  add  an  important  element  to  the  rich  legacy  of 
parks,  forests  and  refuges  we  now  enjoy,  thanks  to  the  vision  of 
earlier  Americans. 

* 

The  Congress  will  soon  receive  a  proposal  from  the  nation's 
major  trail  interests  to  provide  an  additional,  new  "tool"  for 
trails  which  would  complement  those  created  under  S.  1544. 
Americans  who  enjoy  motorized  recreational  trail  activities 
generate  an  estimated  $83.5  million  in  fuel  taxes  annually  as 
they  operate  snowmobiles,  motorcycles  and  ATV's.   The  fuel  tax 
they  pay  now  goes  to  construct  highways  from  which  these  vehicles 
are  barred.   Faced  with  a  similar  dilemma  affecting  the  nation's 
boaters  in  1984,  the  U.S.  Congress  transferred  federal  motorboat 
fuel  to  the  Aquatic  Resources  Trust  Fund,  commonly  known  as  the 
Wallop-Breaux  Fund.   This  money  is  now  regularly  returned, 


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STATEMENT  BY  DERRICK  A.  CRANDALL 
NATIONAL  TRAIL  SYSTEM  ACT  AMENDMENT 
PAGE  THREE 

through  matching  grants  to  the  states,  to  improve  boating  and 
fishing  opportunities.   The  program  enjoys  broad  support  among 
conservationists,  recreationists  and  the  Congress  for  its 
effectiveness  and  efficiency.   Federal  gas  tax  derived  from 
motorized  trail  activities  should  be  treated  similarly,  we  feel, 
with  the  monies  benefiting  trails  for  all,  motorized  and  non- 
motorized  through  a  federal  grant  program  to  states. 

With  some  money  to  develop  new  trails,  a  number  of  options 
arise.   First,  we  can  work  to  add  trails  close  to  people.   These 
trails  can  be  "opportunistic."   In  some  cases,  they  can  utilize 
existing  corridors  used  for  utilities  and  highways.   In  other 
cases,  they  can  be  developed  as  open  spaces  are  "converted  to 
housing  and  offices,  schools  and  stores  through  local  land  use 
planning  efforts.   Trails  can  be  developed  on  privately-owned 
lands,  with  owners  consent,  in  return  for  current  use  property 
taxation  and/or  assistance  in  controlling  trespass  and  liability. 

Some  of  the  funds  can  also  be  used  on  public  lands.   The 
nation's  forest  system  now  contains  approximately  100,000  miles 
of  trails.   Most  of  this  network  was  not  constructed  to  maximize 
recreational  experiences,  however.   Instead,  these  trails  were 
initially  constructed  for  fire  control  purposes,  or  for  access  to 
ranger  cabins,  or  other  purposes.   It  is  possible,  according  to 
knowledgeable  Forest  Service  sources,  to  double  the  trail  mileage 
in  the  national  forests  with  trail  designed  to  accommodate 
different  recreational  activities  --  zoning  by  design. 

In  conclusion,  Mr.  Chaiman,  we  thank  this  committee  for  its 
attention  to  the  importance  recreational  trails  play  in  our 
lives,  and  to  the  importance  of  adding  trails  for  Americans  today 
and  tomorrow.   We  urge  enactment  of  S.  1544  and  your  early 
consideration  of  additional  new  trail  tools  as  they  are  proposed. 

Thank  you. 

Derrick  A.  Crandall 

President 

American  Recreation  Coalition 

1331  Pennsylvania  Avenue,  NW,  Suite  726 

Washington,  D.  C.   20004 

(202)  662-7420 


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Senator  Metzenbaum.  Thank  you  very  much,  Mr.  Crandall. 
Now  we  have  Mr.  Stuart  Northrop  of  the  Huffy  Corp.,  Dayton, 
OH,  Chairman  of  the  Executive  Committee. 
We  are  happy  to  have  you  with  us. 

STATEMENT  OF  STUART  J.  NORTHROP,  CHAIRMAN,  EXECUTIVE 
COMMITTEE,  HUFFY  CORP.,  DAYTON,  OH 

Mr.  Northrop.  Senator,  nice  to  be  here. 

It  is  a  pleasure  to  appear  here  on  behalf  of  your  bill  and  in  sup- 
port of  it. 

In  my  brief  testimony  I  would  just  simply  like  to  relate  to  you  a 
little  of  the  information  on  linear  recreation  that  was  brought  to 
the  attention  of  the  President's  Commission  on  Americans  Out- 
doors, on  which  I  had  the  pleasure  of  serving. 

Traditionally,  recreation  has  been  thought  of  as  occurring  on 
some  confined  plot  of  ground,  and  what  was  brought  dramatically 
to  our  attention  on  the  Commission  is  the  nature,  the  linear  nature 
of  so  much  of  recreation  today,  and  how  those  major  linear  recrea- 
tion activities  are  growing. 

I  have  listed  in  my  written  testimony  these,  but  clearly  the  par- 
ticipation in  them,  such  as  walking  and  driving  and  bicycling  and 
jogging  and  running,  where  the  participation  figures  are  53  percent 
of  all  American  adult  population,  are  really  dramatic  figures  and 
indicate  the  diversity  of  the  interests  in  this  linear  form  of  recrea- 
tion, and  the  diversity  of  it. 

I  would  also  like  to  stress  that  those  figures  are  for  the  adult 
population,  that  if  you  were  to  include  children,  for  instance,  in  bi- 
cycling, where  nearly  every  child  in  America  bicycles,  you  included 
children  in  the  study,  then  the  percentage  of  participation  figures 
would  be  even  higher. 

But  your  bill  and  the  Trail  bill  you  should  keep  in  mind  is  reach- 
ing a  tremendous  number  of  people  of  all  ages.  And  that  this  group 
with  the  interest  in  linear  recreation  is  growing  is  also  very  impor- 
tant. Twenty-five  years  ago,  when  the  Rockefeller  Commission  on 
Outdoor  Recreation  reported  figures  on  bicycling,  in  1960,  only  9 
percent  of  American  adults  were  participating  in  bicycling,  and 
that  has  continued  to  grow  since  then. 

Senator,  when  we  built  our  plant  in  Salina,  OH  in  the  late 
1950's,  we  produced  1000  bicycles  a  day,  that  is  about  200,000  a 
year,  and  less  than  10  percent  of  them  were  sold  to  adults.  Today, 
in  Salina,  OH,  where  we  produce  all  of  our  Huffy  bicycles,  we  are 
producing  15,000  bicycles  a  day,  that  is,  3  million  bicycles  a  year, 
and  30  percent  of  them  are  being  sold  to  adults. 

The  fastest  growing  segment  of  the  bicycle  business  is  the  trail 
bikes,  which  have  captured  15  percent  of  the  market.  So  the  point 
is  that  these  activities  are  really  dramatic  growth  areas  in  recrea- 
tion, and  they  require  a  linear  passage,  and  that  linear  passage  is 
becoming  more  and  more  difficult  to  obtain. 

The  reason  for  this  growth  was  made  clear  in  the  President's 
Commission's  report,  and  I  do  not  need  to  repeat  all  of  them,  but  I 
would  like  to  summarize  them  in  one  sentence.  Americans  of  all 
ages  love  the  great  outdoors  in  this  country,  and  they  want  to  expe- 
rience it  in  an  increasing  diversity  of  recreational  activity. 


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As  I  see  it,  this  is  what  your  Senate  bill  1544  is  all  about,  provid- 
ing Americans  with  opportunities  to  enjoy  the  great  American  out- 
doors in  a  way  that  they  choose.  More  and  more  of  them  are  choos- 
ing linear  activities,  and  these  activities  require  that  linear  pas- 
sage, that  linear  corridor. 

I  stress  Americans  of  all  ages  because  we  have  an  aging  popula- 
tion, and  it  is  the  linear  activities,  the  walking  and  the  bicycling 
and  the  hiking  and  the  backpacking  that  appeal  to  so  many  people, 
both  the  young  and  the  old,  and  attributes  to  a  major  factor  for 
that  growth. 

The  President's  Commission  really  presented  a  challenge  to  the 
people  of  this  country,  lead  your  community  to  create  the  kind  of 
recreational  opportunity  that  you  want.  Communities  across  this 
country  are  rising  to  that  challenge. 

You  mentioned  the  Little  Miami  River,  and  I  had  the  pleasure  of 
addressing  their  25th  anniversary  dinner  not  too  long  ago,  and  that 
is  a  great  nonprofit  organization,  and  you  know  the  fine  work  they 
have  done  in  Ohio,  and  they  need  this  kind  of  help,  and  your  reach- 
ing out  to  try  to  help  them  in  this  way  is  so  important  for  a  non- 
profit organization  that  is  working  primarily  with  private  funds, 
and  they  need  this  kind  of  help. 

I  see  in  this  proposed  legislation  the  kind  of  help  that  they  and 
communities  throughout  this  country  are  seeking.  I  think  that  it 
will  provide  great  stimulus  for  local  initiatives,  and  to  do  it  without 
new  Federal  expenditures.  In  my  opinion,  the  bill  places  the  re- 
sponsibility for  the  initiatives  and  for  the  implementation  where 
they  should  be  placed,  on  the  local  communities,  while  at  the  same 
time  loaning  them  funds  which  the  bill  generates  from  the  unused 
Federal  assets  on  an  attractive  basis  to  help  the  local  communities 
obtain  their  goal. 

In  the  President's  Commission  report  we  talked  about  the  need 
for  new,  imaginative  partnerships  if  the  needs  of  Americans  for 
recreational  opportunities  close  to  home  were  to  be  met.  This  legis- 
lation proposes  one  of  the  kinds  of  Federal  partnerships  with  local 
communities  across  the  country  that  we  on  the  Commission  had  in 
mind. 

On  behalf  of  my  fellow  Commissioners,  but  more  importantly,  on 
behalf  of  Americans  who  love  the  outdoors  and  want  the  opportuni- 
ty to  experience  it  all  during  their  lifetime,  I  thank  you  for  the 
concepts  in  this  bill,  and  I  urge  you  to  work  for  its  enactment. 

Thank  you,  Senator. 

[The  prepared  statement  of  Mr.  Northrop  follows:] 


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S.1544  -  A  BILL  TO  AMEND  THE  NATIONAL  TRAILS  SYSTEM  ACT 

TESTIMONY  -  STUART  J.  NORTHROP 
March  3,  1988 

Chairman  -  Executive  Committee 
HUFFY  CORPORATION 
DAYTON,  OHIO 

It  is  a  pleasure  to  appear  before  you  on  behalf  of  the 
recreationists  of  this  country  in  support  of  S.1544. 

In  my  brief  testimony  I  would  like  to  relate  to  you  a  little 
of  the  information  on  linear  recreation  that  was  brought  to  the 
attention  of  the  President's  Commission  on  Americans  Outdoors  on 
which  I  had  the  pleasure  of  serving.   Traditionally  recreation 
has  been  thought  of  as  occurring  on  some  confin&d  plot  of  ground. 
What  was  stressed  to  us  on  the  Commission  was  that  many  of  the 
faster  growing  recreational  activities  are  linear  in  nature. 

I  would  like  to  list  the  major  linear  recreational 
activities  for  you,  merely  to  give  you  some  sense  of  their 
diversity  and  the  high  degree  of  participation.   This  is  1982 
data  and  the  percentages  refer  to  that  percentage  of  the  adult 
U.S.  population  that  participates  in  that  activity. 

Walking  53% 

Driving  48% 

Bicycling  32% 

Running/Jogging  26% 

Hiking  14% 

Off-Road/Snowmobiles  14% 

Horseback  Riding  9% 

Canoe/Kayak/Rafting  8% 

Backpacking  5% 

Cross-Country  Skiing  3% 

I  would  like  to  stress  that  these  percentages  are  of  the 
adult  population.   For  example,  if  children  were  included  the 
figure  for  bicycling,  and  many  of  the  others, 'would  be 
significantly  higher,  because  almost  100%  of  all  children  ride  a 
bike. 

I  would  also  like  to  stress  that  these  linear  recreational 
activities  are  growing.   Twenty  five  years  ago  the  Rockefeller 
Commission  on  Outdoor  Recreation  reported  figures  for  1960  where 
adult  participation  in  bicycling  was  a  mere  9%.   Adult 
participation  in  these  activities  has  grown  and  is  continuing  to 
grow.   The  current  high  growth  of  mountain  (trail)  bikes  is  just 
one  example  of  that  continuing  growth  and  continuing  diversity. 


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The  reasons  for  this  growth  are  made  clear  in  the 
President's  Coiranission  Report.   They  are  many,  but  I  would  like 
to  summarize  them  by  simply  saying,  "Americans  of  all  ages  love 
the  Great  Outdoors  in  this  country  and  they  want  to  experience  it 
in  an  increasing  diversity  of  recreational  activities."  As  I  see 
it  that  is  what  this  Senate  Bill  1544  is  all  about.   Providing 
Americans  with  opportunities  to  enjoy  the  Great  American  Outdoors 
in  a  way  that  they  choose.   More  and  more  of  them  are  choosing 
linear  activities  and  these  activities  require  linear  passage 
across  the  land.   The  passage  is  becoming  more  and  more  difficult 
to  obtain. 

I  said  "Americans  of  all  ages".   That  is  important.   One  of 
the  reasons  that  linear  recreation  may  be  growing  faster  than 
other  recreational  activities  is  that  these,  in  particular, 
appeal  to  all  ages  and  especially  to  our  identified  'aging 
population' .   Walking,  hiking,  bicycling,  backpScking,  etc.  are 
clearly  for  participants  of  all  age  groups  and  they  also  require 
minimum  investment  and  thus  are  for  participants  of  all  levels  of 
economic  means. 

But  they  do  require  access  to  a  linear  passageway  —  a  trail 
or  path  or  lane.   And  it  was  made  clear  to  the  President's 
Commission  that  Americans  want  to  do  a  majority  of  their 
recreational  pursuits  close  to  home.   For  most  Americans  that 
means  close  to  the  cities  and  towns  of  the  country. 

So  the  President's  Commission  presented  a  challenge  to  the 
people  of  this  country:   lead  your  community  to  create  the  kind 
of  recreational  opportunity  that  you  want.   Communities  across 
this  country  are  rising  to  that  challenge.   But  they  need 
assistance.   I  see  in  this  proposed  legislation  the  kind  of  help 
that  they  are  seeking.   I  think  that  it  would  provide  great 
stimulus  for  local  initiatives  and  do  it  without  new  federal 
expenditures.   In  my  opinion  the  bill  places  the  responsibility 
for  the  initiatives  and  the  implementation  where  they  should  be 
placed:   on  the  local  communities,  while,  at  the  same  time, 
loaning  them  funds  (which  the  bill  generates  from  unused  federal 
assets)  on  an  attractive  basis,  to  help  the  local  communities 
attain  their  goals. 

In  the  President's  Commission  Report  we  talked  about  the 
need  for  new,  imaginative  partnerships  if  the  needs  of  Americans 
for  recreational  opportunities  close  to  home  were  to  be  met. 
This  legislation  proposes  one  of  the  kinds  of  federal 
partnerships  with  local  communities  across  this  country  that  we 
had  in  mind.   On  behalf  of  my  fellow  Commissioners,  but  more 
importantly  on  behalf  of  the  Americans  who  love  the  outdoors  and 
want  the  opportunity  to  experience  it  all  during  their  lifetime, 
I  thank  you  for  the  concepts  in  this  bill  and  I  urge  you  to  work 
for  Its  enactment. 


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Senator  Metzenbaum.  Thank  you  very  much,  Mr.  Northrop. 

Mr.  Northrop,  tell  me,  what  is  a  trail  bike? 

Mr.  Northrop.  A  trail  bike  is  a  bike  that  has  been  built  really 
for  off-road  use.  It  has  a  stronger  frame,  it  has  got  straight  up  han- 
dlebars and  a  larger  saddle.  It  has  usually  15  or  18  gears  so  that 
you  get  low  speeds  for  rougher  terrain,  and  it  has  really  been  de- 
signed for  riding  trails. 

It  can  be  used  on  regular  bikeways,  paved  bikeways,  and  it  is 
very  great.  A  lot  of  people  prefer  sitting  up  straight  to  the  10-speed 
where  they  have  what  we  call  the  Maze  handlebar  where  they 
leaned  over.  And  particularly  older  people  prefer  the  straight  up 
bike.  But  many  younger  people  now  are  enjoying  the  ruggedness  of 
the  trail  bike  and  using  it  on  trails  throughout  this  country. 

Senator  Metzenbaum.  Thank  you  very  much. 

I  have  a  10-speed,  but  I  did  not  know  what  a  trail  bike  was. 

Mr.  David  Burwell,  President  of  the  Rails-to-Trails  Conservancy, 
Washington,  DC. 

STATEMENT  OF  DAVID  G.  BURWELL,  PRESIDENT,  RAILS-TO- 
TRAILS  CONSERVANCY 

Mr.  Burwell.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman. 

My  name  is  David  Burwell,  and  I  am  President  of  the  Rails-to- 
Trails  Conservancy,  which  is  a  nonprofit,  nationwide  conservation 
organization  dedicated  to  the  preservation  of  abandoned  and  about- 
to-be-abandoned  rail  corridors  for  recreation,  conservation  and  his- 
toric preservation. 

In  preparation  for  this  hearing,  we  prepared  a  map  of  all  the  ex- 
isting and  in  process  of  conversion  rail-trail  projects  in  the  United 
States.  There  are  about  150  rail-trails  in  existence,  and  an  equal 
number  in  the  process  of  conversion,  and  I  th^nk  it  indicates  the 
support  this  concept  has  throughout  the  country,  and  we  would 
like  this  map  to  be  made  a  part  of  the  record,  if  you  do  not  mind. 

Senator  Metzenbaum.  Without  objection,  it  will  be. 

Mr.  Burwell.  The  President's  Commission  on  Americans  Out- 
doors, in  its  final  report,  stated  unequivocally  that,  and  I  quote, 
"thousands  of  miles  of  abandoned  rail  lines  should  become  hiking, 
biking  and  bridle  paths."  Two  Senators  on  this  committee  were 
members  of  that  commission,  Senators  Johnson  and  Wallop,  and 
we  appreciate  Senator  Johnston  being  a  cosponsor  of  this  bill,  and 
we  hope  that  this — I  think  it  is  very  appropriate  that  this  legisla- 
tion be  considered  by  this  committee. 

I  would  like  to  talk  just  briefly  about  the  benefits  of  rail-trails.  In 
the  West,  the  rail  corridors  were  laid  down  before  the  land  was  set- 
tled. As  a  result,  the  rights-of-way,  which  are  fenced,  have  some- 
times the  only  remaining  remnants  of  the  original  prairie  habitat, 
and  these  corridors,  besides  providing  public  access,  are  extremely 
valuable  from  an  ecological  standpoint. 

They  also  follow  the  traditional  migration  routes,  the  Oregon 
Trail,  the  Santa  Fe  Trail,  the  Mormon  Trail,  the  Lewis  and  Clark 
Trail,  and  as  these  corridors  are  abandoned  for  rail  use,  we  have 
the  opportunity  to  actually  create  a  system  of  historic  national 
trails  of  tremendous  proportion,  and  it  should  not  be  lost. 


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In  the  East,  the  railroads  were  often  built  right  on  top  of  the  pre- 
existing canal  system.  We  used  to  have  a  tremendous  system  of 
canals  in  the  United  States.  The  railroads  were  actually  built  in 
the  canal  beds,  and  as  the  rail  corridors  are  abandoned,  we  have 
the  opportunity  to  create  an  amenity  like  the  C&O  Canal  Park 
here  in  Washington,  DC,  throughout  the  East.  It  is  an  absolutely 
tremendous  resource.  The  corridors  mostly  are  built  along 
streambeds,  too,  and  riverbeds,  so  it  is  very  high  quality  habitat. 

Nationwide,  we  built  about  292,000  miles  of  steam  and  electric 
railroads  in  the  United  States.  We  are  now  at  about  140,000  miles, 
so  we  have  abandoned  already  about  50  percent  of  our  corridors, 
and  we  are  fading  fast.  There  is  going  to  be  maybe  a  100,000  mile 
core  system  by  the  year  2000. 

S.  1544  addresses  a  subset  of  these  corridors,  about  30,000  miles 
of  federally  granted  railroad  rights-of-way,  rights-of-way  that  were 
granted  over  federally  owned  property.  What  this  bill  does,  in  a 
nutshell,  is  stops  a  giveaway  of  a  very  valuable  Federal  asset. 

Back  in  1922,  Congress  passed  a  law  giving  away  the  Federal  in- 
terest in  these  corridors  upon  abandonment  for  railroad  use,  think- 
ing that  they  were  not,  these  corridors  were  not  very  valuable. 
Now  we  know  absolutely  that  they  are  very  valuable.  Congress  has 
stated  unequivocally  that  it  is  national  policy  to  preserve  our  na- 
tional built  rail  system,  and  therefore,  it  is  appropriate  prospective- 
ly to  void  the  giveaway  and  recapture  this  interest  for  the  Federal 
Government. 

The  previous  witnesses,  the  administration  witnesses,  would  like 
us  to  delay  enactment  until  the  legal  issues  regarding  the  title  to 
federally  granted  rights-of-way  are  cleared  up.  With  all  due  respect 
to  the  administration.  Senator,  this  I  think  would  have  all  the 
effect  of  rearranging  the  deck  chairs  on  the  Titanic. 

These  corridors  are  being  lost  on  a  daily  basis,  and  we  cannot 
wait  until  the  exact  nature  of  these  interests  are  absolutely  crystal 
clear  or  we  will  have  nothing  left  to  save. 

I  would  like  to  quote  from  just  one  legal  opinion.  State  of  Idaho 
V.  The  Oregon  Short  Line  Railroad  Company,  which  can  be  found 
at  617  F.  Supp  207,  an  Idaho  case.  Judge  Callister  there,  in  address- 
ing the  nature  of  the  Federal  interest  in  these  federally  granted 
corridors,  said,  and  I  quote: 

The  precise  nature  of  that  retained  interest  need  not  be  shoehorned  into  any  spe- 
cific category  cognizable  under  the  rules  of  real  property  law.  Regardless  of  the  pre- 
cise nature  of  the  interest,  Congress  clearly  believed  that  it  had  authority  over  1875 
Act  railroad  rights-of-way.  Sections  912,  913  and  316,  which  address  these  corridors, 
evince  an  intent  to  ensure  that  railroad  rights-of-way  would  continue  to  be  used  for 
public  transportation  purposes. 

And  this  is  exactly  what  this  bill  does.  Senator.  It  seeks  to  pre- 
serve these  corridors  for  public  recreation. 

The  bottom  line  is  that  Congress  did  give  an  easement  for  trans- 
portation purposes,  and  it  has  the  power  to  redefine  that  easement 
as  long  as  that  easement  exists.  It  has  done  that  in  section  913  of 
title  43  where  it  said  a  federally  granted  right-of-way  for  railroads 
can  be  changed  to  an  easement  for  a  public  highway,  and  that 
easement  will  continue  even  after  abandonment  of  the  corridor  for 
railroad  use. 


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So  Congress  does  retain  that  interest,  and  this  bill  simply  rede- 
fines that  interest  to  say  when  you  do  not  need  it  for  railroads  any- 
more, we  are  going  to  take  it  back,  we  are  going  to  make  trails  and 
greenlands  out  of  it. 

Funding  is  also  critical,  Senator.  The  cost  of  building  new  trails 
is  very  high.  The  Georgetown  Spur  that  was  referred  to  by  Director 
Mott,  it  is  an  11-mile  corridor.  The  value  of  that  corridor  is,  de- 
pending on  whether  you  talk  to  the  Park  Service  or  the  railroad,  is 
somewhere  between  $15  and  $80  million. 

We  need  new  funding,  and  the  small  amount  of  Federal  funding 
that  is  needed  to  get  this  pump  primed  and  get  this  program  start- 
ed, about  $1  million,  is  insignificant  compared  to  the  millions, 
maybe  hundreds  of  millions  of  dollars  that  could  be  reaped  by  re- 
capturing this  Federal  interest. 

This  Federal  Government  is  not  doing  enough  now  to  preserve 
the  Federal  interest  in  these  corridors.  The  Park  Service  is  trying 
to  help,  but  it  has  no  budget  to  do  it.  The  Interstate  Commerce 
Commission,  frankly,  is  not  trying  to  help.  It  seems  absolutely  un- 
interested in  what  happens  to  these  corridors  after  abandonment 
for  rail  use.  If  anything  is  going  to  happen  to  preserve  these  corri- 
dors, it  will  have  to  be  by  this  committee. 

Thank  you  very  much. 

I  would  like  to  just  quote  again  from  the  Commission,  the  Presi- 
dent's Commission  on  Americans  Outdoors,  in  its  final  report, 
when  it  said  imagine  every  person  in  the  United  States  being 
within  easy  walking  distance  of  a  greenway  that  could  lead  around 
the  entire  nation.  It  can  be  done  if  we  act  soon. 

S.  1544  is  a  firm  step  towards  implementation  of  this  vision,  and 
we  strongly  urge  its  enactment. 

Thank  you. 

[The  prepared  statement  of  Mr.  Burwell  follows:] 


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statement  of  David  G.  Burwell,  President 
Rails-to-Trails  Conservancy 
Before  the 
Committee  on  Energy  and  Natural  Resources 
Subciommittee  on  Public  Lands 

S.1544                    _  ^ 
National  Trails  System  Improvement  Act    ^O 


March    3,    1988 


R^JLS 

WMS 

CONSERVANCY 


Mr.  Chairman,  my  name  is  David  Burwell.  I  am  President  of 
the  Rails-to-Trails  Conservancy,  a  non-profit,  nationwide 
conservation  organization  dedicated  to  the  preservation  of 
abandoned  and  about-to-be-abandoned  rail  corridor  for  recreation, 
conservation  and  historic  preservation  purposes.  Conversion  of 
these  corridors,  where  suitable,  to  trail  use  significantly 
contributes  to  our  nationwide  trail  system.  We  support  S.  1544. 

The  Benefits  of  Rail-Trails 

Railroad  corridors  have  specific  characteristics  that 
commend  their  preservation  for  continued  public  use  upon 
termination  of  rail  service: 

o    Linear  corridors  are  needed  for  recreation.  A  survey 
conducted  by  the  President's  Commission  on  Americans 
Outdoors,  on  which  both  Senator  Johnston  and  Senator 
Wallop  of  this  committee  served,  found  that  the  number 
one  new  facility  need  of  state  and  local  recreation  and 
park  directors  was  for  "trails  and  trail-related 
facilities." 

o    Rail  corridors  serve  national  conservation  objectives. 
Railroads  tend  to  follow  traditional  migration  routes 
and  low-lying  areas  along  rivers.  These  riverine 
corridors  provide  stream  access  for  anglers,  high 
quality  habitat  for  wildlife,  and  buffer  zones  for  soil 
erosion  control.  In  the  prairies  of  the  midwest  rail 
corridors  often  contain  the  only  remaining  remnants  of 
the  original  prairie  ecosystem,  since  rail  corridors 
have  never  been  plowed . 

o    Rail  corridors  have  historic  value.  In  the  west, 
railroads  were  constructed  along  several  of  our 
designated  national  historic  trails  such  as  the  Lewis 
and  Clark  Trail,  the  Oregon  Trail,  and  the  Santa  Fe 
Trail.  When  abandoned,  these  rights-of-way  could  serve 


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modern-day  pioneers  wishing  to  trace  these  historic 
routes.  In  the  east,  railroads  were  often  constructed 
within  our  pre-existing  national  canal  system  and,  upon 
abandonment,  provide  an  opportunity  to  recapture  a 
piece  of  our  early  history.  One  need  only  take  a  walk 
along  the  C&O  Canal  Trail  here  in  the  Washington,  D.C. 
metropolitan  area  to  understand  the  contribution  such 
canal  trails  can  make  as  urban  amenities. 

I  could  go  on,  but  I  will  stop  here.  I  come  not  to  praise 
rail-trails  but  to  build  them.  S.  1544  is  a  strong  step  towards 
this  goal. 

The  Amount  of  Federal  Land  at  Issue 

The  federal  government  played  a  leading  role  in  the 
construction  of  our  national  rail  system  through  charters,  land 
grants,  cash  subsidies,  low- interest  loans  and  loan  guarantees, 
and  grants  of  rights-of-way  over  federal  land.  S.  1544  addresses 
this  last  form  of  support:  railroad  rights-of-way  granted  over 
federal  land.  According  to  a  study  conducted  by  the  Interstate 
Commerce  Commission  in  19  32,  the  federal  government  granted 
rights-of-way  over  approximately  628,000  acres  of  federal  land 
between  1853  and  1916,  most  of  it  west  of  the  Mississippi 
(appendix  A).'  At  an  average  width  of  150-200  feet,  this 
represents  over  30,000  miles  of  federally-granted  rail  corridor. 

The  documentary  basis  for  the  ICC  study  still  exists,  so  it 
is  possible  to  precisely  locate  these  federally-granted 
corridors.  In  preparation  for  this  hearing,  RTC  staff  researched 
these  documents  and  found  that  417,000  acres  were  received  by 
just  four  railroads,  the  Southern  Pacific  (135,769),  the 
Atchison,  Topeka  and  Santa  Fe  (48,484),  the  union  Pacific 
(135,745)  and  the  Northern  Pacific  (now  the  Burlington  Northern) 
(97,406).  Maps  showing  the  federally-granted  corridors  of  two  of 
these  railroads,  and  a  partial  state-by-state  breakdown,  are 
attached  (appendix  B) .  According  to  the  ICC  study,  the  value  of 
federally-granted  railroad  rights-of-way  as  of  December  31,  1927 

was  $68,492,627. 

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The  Interest  of  the  Railroads  and  the  United  States 

Before  1871,  railroads  received  rights-of-way  over  federal 
land  by  specific  act  of  Congress,  and  these  are  generally  thought 
to  be  held  in  "limited  fee"  or  "fee  simple  determinable," 
meaning  that  the  railroad  owned  rights  to  the  corridor  so  long  as 
the  corridor  remained  in  rail  use.  In  190  3  the  U.S.  Supreme  Court 
held  that,  upon  abandonment,  ownership  of  these  corridors 


'  This  table  is  from  Public  Aids  to  Transportation,  Vol.  II 
Railroads,  at  118. 


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reverted  to  the  federal  government  upon  abandonment  for  railroad 
purposes.'  In  1875,  Congress  enacted  the  General  Railroad  Right- 
of-way  Act  of  1875,  granting  railroads  the  right  to  locate  lines 
virtually  anywhere  on  federal  land  by  simply  filing  a  map  with 
the  Bureau  of  Land  Management.  This  law,  which  has  never  been 
repealed,  has  been  generally  viewed  as  granting  railroads  a 
transportation  right-of-way  regulated  by  the  federal  government.' 
Nevertheless,  railroads  retained  some  interest  in  the  subsurface 
of  1875  rights-of-way,  such  as  the  exclusive  right  to  lease  such 
lands  for  oil  and  gas  under  the  Right-of-way  Leasing  Act  of  19  30. 
30  U.S.C.  301. 

Stopping  a  Federal  Giveaway 

Under  existing  law  the  federal  government  gives  away 
whatever  interest  it  retains  in  these  federally-granted  corridors 
upon  abandonment  for  rail  use.  S.  1544  amends  existing  law  to 
recapture  the  federal  interest,  upon  abandonment,  for  continued 
public  use  of  these  corridors.  Our  point  here  is  not  to  debate 
the  precise  nature  of  this  retained  federal  interest.  Rather,  it 
is  to  point  out  the  obvious  fact  that  it  serves  no  public  purpose 
to  give  away  this  interest  and  allow  these  corridors  to  be 
destroyed . 

The  federal  government  did  not  undertake  this  giveaway 
policy  in  furtherance  of  any  higher  public  purpose.  It  simply 
didn't  think  these  corridors  were  worth  the  time  and  effort  to 
manage.  Therefore,  although  it  retained  both  surface  and 
subsurface  reversionary  rights  on  many  if  not  most  of  these 
federally-granted  rail  corridors,  in  the  Act  of  March  22,  1922 
Congress  disposed  of  the  federal  interest  upon  abandonment  to, 
first,  any  municipality  wishing  to  establish  a  public  highway 
along  the  corridor  or,  second,  adjacent  property  owners.* 

We  now  know  that  these  corridors  are  worth  millions  of 
dollars  and  are  very  desirable  for  trails  and  greenways.  However, 
under  the  1922  Act  the  federal  government  is  giving  away  this 
asset  at  no  charge  and,  further,  is  allowing  these  corridors  to 
be  chopped  up  and  plowed  under  in  precise  contravention  of 
existing  national  policy  to  preserve  our  built  rail  corridor 
system  for  future  rail  use,  trails  and  greenways."  This 


"  Northern  Pacific  v.  Townsend,  190  U.S.  267,  271  (1903). 

'  Great  Northern  Railway  Co.  v.  United  States,  315  U.S.  262 
1942)  . 


*  4  3  U.S.C.  912.  This  law  specifically  reserves  subsurface 
rights  in  the  federal  government. 

»  See  49  U.S.C.  10906;  16  U.S.C.  1247(d). 

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represents  neither  good  stewardship  of  federal  assets,  nor  good 
fiscal  policy,  nor  good  public  policy. 

S.  1544  would  stop  this  giveaway  of  valuable  federal  assets 
by  amending  the  1922  law  to  recapture  the  federal  interest  in 
these  corridors  upon  abandonment  for  rail  use  if  not  selected  by 
municipalities  for  public  highway  use.  These  corridors,  when 
found  suitable  by  the  Department  of  Interior,  would  be  managed  as 
trails  or  greenways  either  by  the  Department  itself  or  another 
appropriate  federal,  state  or  local  public  entity.  If  a  corridor 
is  found  not  suitable  for  trail  or  greenway  use,  it  would  be  sold 
pursuant  to  existing  procedures  governing  surplus  federal  land, 
with  the  proceeds  placed  in  a  trust  fund.  Under  Section  4  of  the 
bill  these  proceeds  could  be  used  to  either  acquire  new  trails  or 
to  make  low-  or  no-interest  loans  to  state  or  local  agencies, 
qualified  private  organizations,  or  appropriate  federal  agencies 
for  projects  involving  the  acquisition  or  development  of  trails 
for  public  use. 

The  Right-of-way  Easement  Argument 

We  understand  that  opponents  of  S.  1544  now  claim  that  many 
or  most  of  these  federally-granted  rights-of-way  are  only  surface 
easements  and  that,  further,  the  federal  government  has  patented 
off  all  subsurface  rights  to  third  parties  (a  position  RTC 
contests).  Opponents  accordingly  claim  that  there  is  nothing  left 
with  which  the  bill  can  deal.'  But,  if  this  were  case,  S.  1544  is 
still  vitally  needed.  The  federal  government  unquestionably 
retains  the  power  to  regulate  the  nature  of  the  easement  granted 
to  the  railroad  while  that  easement  continues.  Congress  has 
already  amended  such  grants  once  by  allowing  railroads  to  convey 
a  partial  interest  in  these  corridors  to  any  state,  county  or 
municipality  for  use  as  a  public  highway  or  street,  an  interest 
that  continues  despite  the  subsequent  cessation  of  railroad  use 
in  the  corridor.'  S.  1544,  at  the  least,  would  establish  that, 
upon  termination  of  the  corridor  for  railroad  purposes,  the 
federal  government  would  reclaim  the  easement  itself  for  trail  or 


'  See  City  of  Aberdeen  v.  Chicago  and  North  Western 
Railroad,  602  F.  Supp.  589  (N.D.  South  Dakota  1984),  but  see 
State  of   Idaho  v.  Oregon  Short  Line  RR  Co.,  617  F.  Supp  207  (D. 
Idaho  1985) . 

'  Act  of  May  25,  1920,  41  Stat.  621,  codified  at  43  U.S.C. 
913.  The  term  "public  highway"  is  broad  enough  to  encompass  the 
establishment  of  a  public  trail.  Stegman  v.  City  of  Fort  Thomas, 
273  Ky.  309,  116,  S.E.  2d  649,  651  (1938)  ("public  highway"  may 
be  restricted  to  pedestrians);  White  v.  Meadow  Park  Land  Co.,  240 
Mo.  App.  683,  213  S.W.  2d  123,  125  (1948)  (chief  criterion  of 
public  highway  is  that  it  is  a  transportation  route  available  to 
the  public  at  large). 


92 


greenway  use.  Only  if  the  federal  government  terminates  the 
easement  would  the  easement  expire.' 

Even  if  S.  1544  has  no  further  effect  than  to  perpetuate  a 
surface  easement  for  trail  and  greenway  use,  thousands  of 
federally-granted  rights-of-way  now  lost  upon  abandonment  could 
be  preserved.  This  is  in  full  keeping  with  the  recommendations  of 
the  President's  Commission  on  Americans  Outdoors  which  advised 
that  "thousands  of  miles  of  abandoned  rail  lines  should  become 
hiking,  biking,  and  bridle  paths." 

Conclusion 

S.  1544  replaces  bad  policy  with  good  policy.  It  would  stop 
the  giveaway  of  a  valuable  federal  asset;  it  would  preserve  a 
ready-made  system  of  linear  corridors  suitable  for  building  a 
nationwide  trail  system;  it  would  bring  dollars  into  the  federal 
treasury;  and  it  would  help  states  and  localities  throughout  the 
United  States  build  their  own  trail  and  greenway  systems.  Because 
it  is  prospective  in  nature,  it  in  no  way  affects  the  vested 
rights  of  adjacent  owners  in  already-abandoned  corridors.  It 
seeks  only  to  "stop  the  bleeding"  of  federal  corridors  not  yet 
abandoned.  Possible  future  owners  of  these  corridors  do  not  have 
any  vested  property  interest,  they  have  only  an  expectancy  of 
receiving  a  free  gift  upon  abandonment  for  rail  use.  It  is 
therefore  fair  as  well  as  smart  public  policy. 

In  its  final  report  to  the  President,  the  President's 
Commission  on  Americans  Outdoors  outlined  a  vision  for  America's 
future  and  challenged  all  Americans  to  work  towards  that  vision. 
"Imagine,"  the  Commission  stated,  "every  person  in  the  United 
States  being  within  easy  walking  distance  of  a  greenway  that 
could  lead  around  the  entire  nation.  It  can  be  done  if  we  act 
soon."  S.  1544  is  a  first,  firm  step  towards  implementation  of 
this  vision.  We  strongly  urge  its  swift  enactment. 

Thank  you. 


•  Congress  has  already  exercised  similar  power  under  the 
Interstate  Commerce  Act  to  regulate  privately-granted  railroad 
easements.  Under  Section  8(d)  of  the  National  Trail  System  Act, 
16  U.S.C.  1647 cd).  Congress  directed  that  privately-granted 
railroad  easements,  if  railbanked  for  future  rail  use  through 
interim  trail  use,  would  continue  the  easement  and  postpone 
reversionary  claims  while  in  such  use.  This  statute  has  been 
challenged  as  an  unconstitutional  taking  of  property  by 
reversionary  interest  holders  in  pending  litigation  before  the 
U.S.  Court  of  Appeals  in  the  D.C.  Circuit  and  the  U.S.  District 
Court  of  the  Eastern  District  of  Missouri.  RTC  is  an  intervening 
defendant  in  both  actions. 


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LOCATION  OF  FEDERALLY  GRANTED  RAILROAD  RIGHTS-OF-WAY 

According  to  Public  Aids  to  Transportation,  Vol.  II,  the 
federal  government  granted  numerous  rights-of-way  to  railroads 
since  1834.   Between  1835  and  1875  Congress  made  several  grants 
of  rights-of-way  through  public  lands  to  railroads  by  special 
acts.   In  1852  Congress  enacted  the  first  federal  general  right- 
of-way  grant  which  applied  to  rights-of-way  through  public  lands. 
In  1875  Congress  enacted  the  present  federal  general  right-of-way 
act.   This  act,  which  is  still  effective,  also  applies  to  rights- 
of-way  through  public  lands.   Since  1875,  the  federal  government 
has  made  a  large  number  of  right-of-way  grants  through  national 
parks,  military  or  Indian  reservations  and  other  government  lands 
reserved  from  sale.   The  bulk  of  acreage  received  under  federal 
right-of-way  grants,  however,  was  granted  between  1850  and  1871 
under  right-of-way  grants  contained  within  the  land  grant  acts. 
Total  grants  amounted  to  about  628,000  acres. 

Approximately  two-thirds  of  the  land  which  the  federal 
government  granted  to  railroads  under  right-of-way  grants  went  to 
Atchison,  Topeka  and  Santa  Fe  (ATSF) ,  Southern  Pacific  (SP), 
Union  Pacific  (UP)  or  Northern  Pacific  (NP).   In  order  to 
identify  the  specific  rights-of-way  which  the  federal  government 
granted  to  these  four  railroads  RTC  researched  the  reports  of 
ATSF,  SP,  UP  and  NP  filed  in  response  to  I.C.C.  Valuation  Order 
16.   These  volumes  list  "lands  acquired  through  aids,  gifts, 
grants  of  right-of-way  or  donations  (excluding  land  grants)  by 
the  railroad  company  to  June  30,  1916  from  the  government  of  the 
U.S.  or  from  state,  county,  municipal  governments  or  any 
individual,  association  or  corporation." 

The  railroads'  reports  in  response  to  V.O.  16  list  land 
parcels  (most  less  than  ten  acres  in  size)  which  the  federal 
government  granted  to  the  railroads.   ATSF  and  SP  indicated  the 
endpoints  of  the  lines  which  include  federal  right-of-way  grants, 
enabling  RTC  to  identify  the  lines  which  were  wholly  (or  at  least 
95%)  federally  granted.   The  ATSF  and  SP  lines  are  identified  on 
the  attached  maps.   Since  NP  and  UP  did  not  indicate  the 
endpoints  of  the  lines  which  include  federally  granted  rights-of- 
way,  RTC  was  not  able  to  map  the  lines  granted  to  these  two 
companies.   However,  we  were  able  to  break  the  NP  and  UP  grants 
down  into  total  acreage  for  each  state  where  they  were  granted . 

The  total  acreage  granted  to  Southern  Pacific  was  135,769 
acres.   This  land  was  granted  in  Arizona,  California,  Nevada,  New 
Mexico,  Oregon  and  Utah. 

The  total  acreage  granted  to  Atchison,  Topeka  and  Santa  Fe 
was  48,484  acres.   This  land  was  granted  in  six  states: 

Arizona  16,812  acres 
California  5,197  acres 
Colorado        3,724  acres 


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Kansas  3,383  acres 

New  Mexico     19,273  acres 
Oklahoma  95  acres 

The  total  acreage  granted  to  Union  Pacific  was  135,745 
acres.   This  land  was  granted  in  five  states: 

Colorado  16,979  acres 

Kansas  34,449  acres 

Nebraska  50,984  acres 

Utah  4,396  acres 

Wyoming  28,9  37  acres 

The  total  acreage  granted  to  Northern  Pacific  was  97,406 
acres.   This  land  was  granted  in  seven  states: 

Idaho  6,387  acres 

Minnesota  8,091  acres 

Montana  37,465  acres 

North  Dakota  20,409  acres 

Oregon  68  acres 

Washington  23,864  acres 

Wisconsin  1,122  acres 

Between  them,  AT&SF,  SP,  NP  and  UP  received  over  417,000 
acres  of  the  almost  628,000  acres  which  the  federal  government 
granted  to  railroad  companies.   Since  federal  right-of  way  grants 
were  most  commonly  200  feet  in  width,  the  grants  to  these  four 
railroad  companies  alone  comprise  approximately  17,500  miles  of 
corridors . 


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101 

Senator  Metzenbaum.  Thank  you  very  much,  Mr.  Burwell. 
Our  next  witness  on  this  panel,  and  our  last  witness,  is  Susan 
Henley,  Executive  Director  of  the  American  Hiking  Society. 

STATEMENT  OF  SUSAN  A.  HENLEY,  EXECUTIVE  DIRECTOR, 
AMERICAN  HIKING  SOCIETY 

Ms.  Henley.  Thank  you  very  much.  Senator. 

I  am  very  pleased  to  be  here  and  pleased  to  support  No.  1544.  I 
would  also  like  to  say  I  am  pleased  to  be  on  a  panel  with  so  many 
Buckeyes.  I  happen  to  have  been  born  and  raised  in  Ohio.  I  do  not 
live  there  now,  but  I  am  a  Buckeye.  At  least  I  consider  myself  one. 

The  use  of  abandoned  railroads  for  trails  is  encouraged  and  di- 
rected by  both  the  National  Trails  System  Act  and  the  Railroad 
Revitalization  and  Regulatory  Reform  Act.  Yet  in  the  past  12 
years,  over  40,000  miles  of  track  have  been  abandoned  with  very 
little  conversion  to  trail  uses  or  even  preservation  of  rights-of-ways 
for  future  national  needs. 

Although  the  administration  has  not  yet  responded  to  the  recom- 
mendations of  the  commission  we  have  heard  about  several  times 
today,  many  of  the  local  and  State  agencies,  and  the  private  sector, 
have  indeed  lit  those  prairie  fires  that  it  refers  to,  and  with  a  little 
bit  of  encouragement  from  Congress  in  the  form  of  bills  such  as  S. 
1544,  could  fan  those  small  fires  to  really  catch  hold  and  spread 
across  this  great  land  of  opportunity  and  beautiful  natural  re- 
sources. 

One  of  the  major  recommendations  of  the  commission  was  to  es- 
tablish linear  corridors.  This  bill  serves  as  a  major  stepping  stone, 
an  easy  one  for  the  Federal  Government  to  accomplish  to  help 
attain  this  recommendation. 

The  Congress  could  play  an  invaluable  role  in  seeing  that  the  ef- 
forts are  taken  to  protect  and  safeguard  the  recreational  resources. 
This  bill  would  enable  the  Federal  Government  to  recapture  mil- 
lions of  dollars  while  at  the  same  time  establish  thousands  of  miles 
of  trails.  The  bill  does  all  this  by  simply  terminating  the  existing 
giveaway  of  Federally  owned  railroad  rights-of-way. 

The  administration  has  been  extremely  shortsighted,  penny  wise 
and  dollar  foolish.  It  cannot  support  a  trails  fund  due  to  the  Feder- 
al deficit;  however,  it  does  not  raise  any  question  as  to  how  much  it 
is  giving  away. 

AH  too  frequently  the  opportunity  to  create  a  new  trail  is  lost 
because  the  local  or  State  government  agency  involved  lacks  suffi- 
cient funds  to  purchase  a  corridor  within  the  brief  time  period  of 
only  180  days.  A  fund  designed  to  provide  loans  to  the  trail  pur- 
chasers to  acquire  the  right-of-way  before  it  is  broken  up  piecemeal 
would  be  an  invaluable  tool  to  assist  in  retaining  some  of  these  cor- 
ridors. 

Let  me  skip  over  what  the  bill  could  do  and  give  you  a  highlight 
of  one  of  the  things  that  it  could  have  prevented.  In  the  Black  Hills 
of  South  Dakota  there  is  a  magnificent  railroad  right-of-way  of 
about  40  miles  through  the  Custer  National  Forest.  Approximately 
80  percent  of  the  right-of-way  is  actually  in  the  National  Forest.  As 
a  matter  of  fact,  the  Forest  Service  directs  hikers  to  that  area 
when  they  ask  about  where  they  could  go. 


102 

The  abandonment  took  place  4  years  ago.  At  that  time,  although 
there  was  some  local  interest  in  developing  the  property,  no  leader- 
ship gelled,  and  it  did  not  happen  quickly  enough. 

Now  the  Burlington  Northern  recognizes  that  the  right-of-way  is 
scenic  and  of  great  merit  as  a  trail.  It  is  desirous  of  cooperating  to 
preserve  this  facility,  but  it  feels  its  ability  is  limited  because  of  the 
time  lapse  from  abandonment.  This  trail  has  probably  been  lost. 

S.  1544  would  contribute  to  preventing  this  kind  of  problem  from 
recurring  by  requiring  the  Federal  Land  Management  officials  in 
charge  of  the  property  to  evaluate  the  property  when  it  becomes 
available.  The  bill  should,  in  short,  produce  the  kind  of  leadership 
which  is  needed  at  the  Federal  level  to  retain  valuable  rights-of- 
ways  for  trail  purposes  on  Federal  lands. 

Another  problem  I  would  like  to  speak  about  is  the  Interstate 
Commerce  Commission  and  its  not  doing  more  to  assure  that  rail- 
road rights-of-ways  are  made  available  for  recreational  purposes. 
Congress  has  repeatedly  addressed  this  issue.  Section  9(b)  of  the 
original  Trails  Act  calls  for  ICC  to  cooperate  in  this  regard. 

Congress  recognized  that  something  was  awry  back  in  1976,  and 
now  section  10906  of  the  Interstate  Commerce  Commission  act,  the 
ICC  must  make  a  determination  of  public  use  suitability  of  a  right- 
of-way  upon  abandonment,  and  must  assure  that  suitable  corridors 
are  offered  on  reasonable  terms.  Unfortunately,  ICC  did  nothing  to 
enforce  this  provision  either. 

The  National  Park  Service  in  1985  determined  that  ICC's  per- 
formance was  dismal.  I  am  submitting  for  the  record  a  copy  of  Di- 
rector Mott's  letter  to  the  ICC  regarding  the  C&O  Canal  towpath 
and  its  adjoining  Georgetown  Spur  right-of-way  we  have  heard  pre- 
viously about. 

Congress  also  addressed  the  issue  in  the  National  Trails  System 
Act  amendments  adopted  in  1983.  I  would  like  to  also  mention  that 
the  American  Hiking  Society  was  the  principal  proponent  of  that 
amendment.  It  was  our  intent,  or  at  least  we  understood  and  re- 
ported to  our  members  that  this  would  require  ICC  to  order  the 
transfer  of  rights-of-way  for  railbanking  and  interim  trail  use  on 
the  terms  and  conditions  set  by  the  Commission. 

ICC  has  interpreted  the  provision  to  be  applicable  only  if  the 
railroad  voluntarily  consents.  This  interpretation  was  recently 
upheld  in  the  ninth  circuit.  Some  carriers  have  now  begun  to  nego- 
tiate under  this  provision,  but  many  have  arbitrarily  refused. 
Others  have  sought  compensation  which  exceeds  the  appraised 
value  of  the  property.  This  substantially  hampers  efforts  to  secure 
these  corridors  for  public  use,  and  was  never  the  intent  of  Congress 
under  the  National  Trails  System  Act. 

Let  me  finish  with  what  you  opened  this  session  with.  Recreation 
is  vital  to  the  quality  of  life,  and  trails  are  one  of  our  most  impor- 
tant, significant  outdoor  resources.  Not  only  are  they  used  by 
hikers  and  bicyclists  and  horse  riders,  which  you  normally  think  of 
as  being  trail  users,  but  they  are  also  used  by  hunters,  photogra- 
phers, bird  watchers,  and  may,  many  others.  Rail-to-trail  conver- 
sions are  particularly  suited  for  so  many  handicapped  people  who 
have  the  opportunity  to  get  outdoors  without  being  on  a  particular- 
ly rugged  trail. 


103 

It  is  a  way  for  people  to  get  to  their  special  place  if  they  want  to 
fish,  they  want  to  relax  by  a  waterfall,  or  just  sit  by  a  viewpoint 
and  rejoice  in  the  beauty  of  our  great  country.  It  restores  the  inner 
spirit.  We  cannot  afford  to  turn  down  the  opportunity  which  could 
lead  to  the  establishment  of  thousands  of  miles  of  potential  recre- 
ational corridors  which  can  help  to  someday  provide  a  nationwide 
network  of  trails  across  America. 

Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman,  for  your  interest. 

[The  prepared  statement  of  Ms.  Henley  follows:] 


104 


STATEMENT  OF  SUSAN  A.  HENLEY,  EXECUTIVE  DIRECTOR  OF 
THE  AMERICAN  HIKING  SOCIETY 

REGARD  THE  SUBJECT:  S.1544  /  National  Trails  System  Improvements  Act  of  1987 

PRESENTED  TO  THE 

U.S.  SENATE 

COMMITTEE  ON  ENERGY  AND  NATURAL  RESOURCES 

PUBLIC  LANDS,  NATIONAL  PARKS  AND  FORESTS 

March  3,  1988 

Mr.  Chairman  and  members  of  the  Subcommittee,  my  name  is  Susan  Henley.  I  am  the 
Executive  Director  of  the  American  Hiking  Society,  I  speak  today  on  behalf  of 
our  membership  and  our  club  affiliates  with  a  combined  total  of  over  150,000 
hikers.  We  are  pleased  to  support  S.  1544  and  recommend  its  early  adoption. 

The  use  of  abandoned  railroads  for  trails  is  encouraged  and  directed  by  both 
the  National  Trails  System  Act  and  the  Railroad  Revitalization  and  Regulatory 
Reform  Act.  Yet  in  the  past  12  years,  over  40,000  miles  of  track  have  been 
abandoned,  with  very  little  conversion  to  trail  uses  or  even  preservation  of 
rights-of-way  for  possible  future  national  need. 

Although  the  administration  has  not  yet  responded  to  the  recommendations  of  the. 
President's  Commission  on  Americans  Outdoors,  many  of  the  local  and  state 
agencies  and  private  sector  companies  and  organizations  have  indeed  lit  those 
prairie  fires  it  refers  to  and  some  encouragement  from  Congress  in  the  form  of 
legislation  such  as  S.1544  could  fan  those  few  small  fires  to  really  catch  hold 
and  spread  across  our  great  land  of  opportunity  and  beautiful  natural 
resources.  One  of  the  major  recommendations  of  the  Commission  was  focused  on 
the  importance  and  the  need  to  protect  and  establish  linear  corridors-  i.e. 
trails,  rivers  &  greenways.  This  bill  serves  as  a  major  stepping  stone  -  an 
easy  one  for  the  federal  government  to  accomplish  -  to  help  to  attain  the 
Commissions  recommendation.  The  Congress  could  play  an  invaluable  role  in 
seeing  that  efforts  be  taken  to  protect  and  safeguard  the  potential  recreational 
resources  possible  along  these  federal  rights-of-way  and  making  them  available 
to  our  public  seeking  enrichment  in  the  great  outdoors  of  this  nation. 

This  bill  would  enable  the  federal  government  to  recapture  millions  of  dollars 
while  at  the  same  time  establish  thousands  of  miles  of  trails,  greenways  and 
linear  open  spaces  which  could  serve  to  protect  a  vast  part  of  the  country's 
land  and  natural  resources.  The  bill  does  all  this  by  simply  terminating  the 
existing  "give-away"  of  federally-owned  railroad  right-of-ways.  The  Adminis- 
tration has  been  extremely  short-sighted,  penny  wise  and  dollar  foolish.  It 
cannot  support  a  trails  fund  due  to  the  federal  deficit.  However  it  does  not 
raise  the  question  of  how  much  it  is  giving  away. 

All  to  frequently,  the  opportunity  to  create  a  new  trail  is  lost  because  of 
local  or  state  government  agency  involved  lacks  sufficient  funds  to  purchase  a 
corridor  within  the  brief  time  period  --  only  180  days  --  The  small  appropria- 
tion, which  this  bill  calls  for  is  just  to  get  the  program  underway.  Rail 
trail  conversion  opportunities  must  be  acted  upon  when  the  abandonment  is 
imminent,  waiting  till  next  year  just  is  not  an  alternative,  the  corridor  will 
be  lost  forever  if  timely  action  is  not  possible.  A  fund  designed  to  provide 
loans  to  trail  purchasers  to  acquire  the  right-of-way  before  it  is  broken  up 
piecemeal  would  be  an  invaluable  tool  to  assist  in  retaining  some  of  these 


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statement  or  American  Hiking  society  J/J/sa  regard  b.iD44 

corridors.  The  revolving  fund  provided  in  this  bill  is  largely  self-financed 
through  sales  of  government  land  formerly  given  away.  As  the  rights-of-way  are 
returned  the  the  federal  government,  the  program  will  more  than  pay  for  itself 
as  well  as  to  further  what  the  Congress  intended  when  it  first  passed  the 
National  Trails  System  Act  some  20-years  ago. 

Enough  about  what  this  bill  could  do.  Let  me  just  highlight  briefly  a  specific 
problem  and  how  the  bill  will  deal  with  it.   In  the  Black  Hills  of  South 
Dakota,  there  is  a  magnificent  railroad  right-of-way  of  about  40  miles  in 
length  through  Custer  National  Forest.  Approximately  80%  of  the  right-of-way 
is  actually  in  the  National  Forest,  The  entire  right-of-way  would  make  a  fine 
trail,  and,  indeed.  Forest  Service  personnel  direct  would-be  hikers  to  the 
right-of-way.  The  abandonment  took  place  some  four  years  ago.  At  the  time, 
although  there  was  considerable  local  interest  in  developing  the  property  as  a 
trail,  no  leadership  jelled,  and  the  corridor  is  rapidly  retreating  into  the 
environment.  Although  the  railroad,  Burlington  Northern,  which  now  recognizes 
the  right-of-way  is  scenic  and  of  great  merit  as  a  trail,  is  desirous  of 
cooperating  to  preserve  this  facility,  it  feels  that  its  ability  to  do  so  is 
limited  because  of  the  time  lapse  from  abandonment.  Although  South  Dakota  is 
now  working  to  preserve  this  right-of-way,  the  State's  ability  to  do  so  could 
have  been  greatly  enhanced  had  federal  authorities  taken  a  more  timely  and 
aggressive  position  in  the  matter. 

S.1544  would  contribute  to  preventing  this  kind  of  problem  from  recurring  by 
requiring  the  federal  land  management  officials  in  charge  of  the  property  to 
evaluate  the  property  when  it  becomes  available,  and  also  to  make  the  property 
available  to  local  or  state  agencies  or  qualified  private  organizations  for 
trail  purposes.  The  bill  should  in  short  produce  the  kind  of  leadership  which 
is  needed  at  the  federal  level  to  retain  valuable  rights-of-way  for  trail 
purposes  on  federal  lands. 

There  is  another  problem  which  we  recommend  that  the  Committee  consider. 
Advocates  of  trails  have  for  some  two  decades  expressed  concern  that  the 
Interstate  Commerce  Commission  is  not  doing  more  to  assure  that  railroad 
rights-of-way  are  made  available  for  trail  use  upon  abandonment.  Congress  has 
repeatedly  addressed  this  issue.  Section  9(b)  of  the  original  Trails  Act 
calls  for  ICC  to  cooperate  in  this  regard.  When  Congress  revised  rail 
regulation  in  1976,  several  amendments  provided  for  a  study  of  so-called  rail 
trails  by  the  Interior  Department.   Interior  concluded  that  at  least  a  third  of 
railroad  rights-of-way  were  suitable  for  public  use  upon  abandonment. 
However,  very  few  of  these  are  being  so  devoted.  Even  before  this  report. 
Congress  recognized  that  something  was  awry,  and  specifically  provided  in  what 
is  now  section  10906  of  the  Interstate  Commerce  Act  that  ICC  must  make  a 
determination  of  public  use  suitability  of  a  right-of-way  upon  abandonment,  and 
must  assure  that  suitable  corridors  are  offered  by  the  railroad  for  such  use 
on,  quote,  "reasonable  terms."  Unfortunately,  ICC  did  nothing  to  enforce  this 
provision  either.   Indeed,  the  National  Park  Service  in  a  report  issued  in  1985 
termed  ICC's  performance  "dismal."  I  am  submitting  for  the  record  a  letter 
from  Director  Mott  to  the  ICC  asking  the  ICC  to  take  appropriate  action  to  set 
"reasonable  terms"  under  10906,  which  happens  to  involve  an  abandonment  that 
is  along  the  C&O  Canal  towpath  right  here  in  the  District  of  Columbia.  We 
understand  that  this  request  is  being  rejected  by  ICC. 

Congress  also  addressed  the  issue  in  the  National  Trails  System  Act  Amendments 
adopted  in  1983,  which,  I  might  add,  the  American  Hiking  Society  was  a 


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statement  of  American  Hiking  Society  3/3/88  regard  5.1544 

principal  proponent  of  that  amendment.  One  of  the  newly  adopted  provisions  was 
section  8{d)  of  the  Trails  Act.  This  provision  was  intended,  or  at  least  we  so 
understood  and  reported  to  our  members,  to  require  ICC  to  order  the  transfer  of 
rights-of-way  for  railbanking  and  interim  trail  use  on  terms  and  conditions  set 
by  the  Commission,  so  long  as  the  railroad  was  relieved  of  future  liabilities. 
In  other  words,  the  new  provision  was  intended  to  assure  at  least  some  enforce- 
ment of  section  10906.  But  ICC  has  interpreted  that  provision  to  be  appli- 
cable only  if  the  railroad  voluntarily  consents.  This  interpretation  was 
recently  upheld  by  the  Ninth  Circuit.  Although  some  carriers  have  now  begun  to 
negotiate  under  this  provision,  many  have  arbitrarily  refused,  and  others  have 
sought  compensation  which  exceeds  the  appraised  value  of  the  property.  This 
substantially  hampers  efforts  to  secure  these  corridors  for  public  use  and  was 
never  the  intent  of  Congress  under  the  National  Trails  System  Act. 

We  continue  to  believe  that  the  public  interest  will  not  be  served  until  ICC 
recognizes,  or  is  compelled  to  recognize  by  legislation,  that  it  should  set 
terms  and  conditions  for  transfer  of  otherwise  abandoned  rail  lines  for 
alternative  public  uses  upon  the  request  of  an  interested  party.  This  is 
exactly  the  area  of  ICC's  expertise,  and  the  agency  does  it  all  the  time  for 
private  parties  seeking  a  corridor  for  continued  private  rail  use. 

Recreation  is  vital  to  the  quality  of  life.  Trails  are  one  of  our  most 
significant  outdoor  resources,  not  only  are  they  used  by  hikers,  bicyclist, 
horse  riders,  etc.  but  also  many  other  recreationist,  hunters,  photographers, 
bird  watchers  and  many  others  use  them  to  reach  their  special  place  to  fish, 
relax  by  a  waterfall  or  just  sit  at  a  viewpoint  and  rejoice  in  the  beauty  of 
this  great  country.  It  restores  the  inner  spirit.  We  can  not  afford  to  turn 
down  opportunity  which  could  lead  to  the  establishment  of  thousands  of  miles  of 
potential  recreational  corridors  which  can  help  to  someday  provide  a  nationwide 
network  of  trails  across  America. 

Mr.  Chairman,  thank  you  for  your  time  and  interest.  We  support  the  bill  and 
encourage  its  adoption. 


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DEC   18  1987 

Honorable  Haacher  Sradlsoa 
Chairrfomaa,    Incaracace  Comaarce  Coaalaslon 
Tveift.T   Scraac   and   CoaaclCutlon   Avenue,    V.'J. 
Wasnlngcon,    D.C,      20423 

Dear  Madam  CHalcwoaan: 

Thl3    Letter  addresses   the   public   recreational  use   of   the  Georgetown  Branch 
Railroad   right-of-way   upoa  abandonment   (Baltimore  and  Ohio  Railroad 
Abandonaent)    through  Montgomery   County,   Maryland,    and   the   District   of 
Columbia,    [Afl-19    (Sub-no.    112)].      It   also   supplements   the   Satloaai   Park 
Service's   comments   submitted   by   our  Mid-Atlantic  Regional  Office    in 
Philadelphia  on  April  29,    198  7  (copy   enclosed). 

Due   to   the   significant   potential   Impact   of   this  proposed  abandonaent   on  the 
Chesapeake  and  Ohio  Canal    (C&O)   Macioaal  Historic   Park,   and   the   importance   of 
preserving    the   linear   integrity  of   the   entire  corridor   from  Georgetown   to 
Silver  Spring,    I  am  writing  you  directly. 

The   Interstate  Commerce  Commission   (ICC)    is  currently  considering    the    proposal 
of  CSX  Corporation,    owner   of   the   Baltlaore  and  Ohio  Railroad,    to   abandon   the 
Gaorgetown   Branch   of    the   latter   line.      That   Branch  commences   a  aile   north   of 
downtown  Silver  Spring,   Maryland,    traverses  Rock  Creek  Park,    crosses   downtswn 
Bathesda,    and   enters    the   District   of  Columbia  at   the   Delecarlla  Reser/ior. 
From  that   point,    the   right-of-way    is   either  adjacent   to,    or  actuailv    Inslia, 
the    boundaries   of   the   CiO   Canal   ?ar*c  until   its   terainus    in  Georgetown. 

The  Georgetown  Branch  should   be   secured   for  public    recraational  use   for    its 
entire    Length.      If  converted   to   recreational   trail   use   the   corridor  would,    In 
combination  with   the  C&O  Caoal   towpath  and   the  Rock  Creek  Park,    create  a 
2G-aiLa   tnsida-the-3eltway   loop,    all  of  wnlch  would  be -relatively   free  of 
motor  vehicular  cross   traffic.     Moreover,    ch«  corridor   Inside  the   District    is 
nacassarv   both  as   a  buffer  and  as   parr   of   the  C&O  Canal  National  Historic 
Park.     The  Matiooal  Park  Service  is  also  cespoasible  for  the  District   of 
CoLuabia   portion  of  Rock  Creek  Park  and   regards  converslTon  of   the  Georgetown 
Branch  to   recreational  uae  as  compleaeatary  to  chac  park  as  well. 

The   President's  Cosalsalon  on  Americans  Outdoors,    la   its  January   1,    193  7, 
Report,    recommended   the  creation  of   additional   "greenways"   in  urban   areas.      A 
priae   example   of  an   excellent    "greenway"    is   an  about-to-be  abandoned   rail 
corridor.      Conversion  of   the  Georgetown  Branch  to   recreational   trail  use   would 
claarlr   be  consistent   with   the    recoaaendations   of    the   President's   Connlss'.on. 
Because  of   the  obvious   taportance   of    this  corridor  for   two   national   parse  units 
and    in   Its   own   right,    because    recreational  use  of   the   corridor   fits   overall 
recomaendations  on  aatiooal   recreational  policy,    and  because   conversion   t3 


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recreatlOBBLl  uae  would  ser-re  aa   a   fine  arample   for   the   Nation,    the   National 
Part   3«rTlc«  aupporta   acquisition  of   the  Georgetown   Branch   right-of-way  for 
public   r«cr«*tioaal   use.      We   believe    that   all    Federal   agencies    should 
cooperate    Co    the   utaoat    in   securing    the   right-of-way   for    that   purpose. 

We  have  been  negoclatlog  with  the  CSX  Corporation  and  will   continue   to  do   so 
to   acquire    the   Georgetown   Branch.      We   Intend    to   pursue   those   negotiations    to 
reach  agreeaent  on   purchase   of   the  right-or-way.      However,   we  request   that   the 
Interstate  Coi^erce  Co^rlsaion   issue  an  order  under  49  tJ.S.C.   10906   requiring 
the  railroad   to  pffer   the  right-of-way  for  sale   for   public  use    "on   reasonable 
teraa."     We  would  appreciate   it  very  auch   If   the   ICC  would  establish   the 
aeohanisa   to  detenalne   'reaaooable   teras." 

A  historic   rail  group   la   Interested  in  seeking  to  continue   to  operate   the 
corridor  for  rail  purposea.      We  are  working  with   chat  group   to  explore   the 
possibility  of  operating  a  historic   railroad.      While  an  application  may  be 
filed  under  49   U.S.C.    10905   if  abandonaent  la  authorized,   we  would  prefer   to 
pursue  acquisition  of  the  right-of-way  under  O.S.C.   10906. 

Furthermore,    the  Hatlonal  Park  Service  supports  Mcntgoaery  County's  decision 
to  acquire   the   corridor   throughout   the  County   for  recreational   trail  purposes 
pursuant   to   Section  3(d)   of   the  National  Trails   Systea  Act,    16   O.S.C. 
1247(d).      Use  of  Section  3(d)   aay  be  necessary  to  asaure  non-interruption  of 
the  corridor  due  to   poaalble   reversionary  daiaa. 

Lastly,   we   ask   the   Interstate  Coanerce  Coi^lssion,    pursuant   to   Section  9(b)   of 
the   National  Trails    Systea  Act,    16   O.S.C.    1243(b),    to  advise   the   Secrecar^  of 
the   Interior  as   to  what   action   the  Cooaissioa   proposes   in  order   to  assure   chat 
those   Federal  agencies  having   Jurisdiction  or  control  over   this   abaadonaeac 
recognize   the   suitability  and   the  significance  of   this   corridor    for   taprovlng 
and   expanding   the   National  Trails   Systea.      This   is   particularly  critical    In 
assuring  deveiopaent   of  a  continuoua   trail  along   the  corridor  which   traverses 
the   Dalecarlla  Reaervaclon  operated  by  the   DepartaenC  of   Defense. 

I   thank  Che  CooBiaaioa  for   ics  work  la  Chls   area',   and   I  hope   that  we  can 
cooperate   Co  secure   Chls   property  for  public  uae.     Ic  la   cruly  a 
once-in-a-llfedae  opporcunlcy. 


Sincerely, 


Enclosure 


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Senator  Metzenbaum.  Thank  you  very  much.  We  appreciate 
your  testimony,  and  appreciate  the  testimony  of  each  of  the  wit- 
nesses, and  we  may  submit  some  questions  to  you,  but  your  testi- 
mony has  been  very,  very  helpful  today,  and  we  appreciate  it  great- 

ly- 

Thank  you. 

Our  next  panel  consists  of  Richard  Welsh,  Executive  Director  of 
the  National  Association  of  Reversionary  Property  Owners  of  Issa- 
quah,  WA  and  Richard  Krause,  Assistant  Counsel,  American  Farm 
Bureau  Federation. 

STATEMENT  OF  RICHARD  WELSH,  EXECUTIVE  DIRECTOR,  NA- 
TIONAL ASSOCIATION  OF  REVERSIONARY  PROPERTY  OWNERS, 
ISSAQUAH,  WA 

Mr.  Welsh.  Good  afternoon,  Mr.  Chairman  and  members  of  the 
staff.  My  name  is  Richard  Welsh.  I  am  the  Executive  Director  of 
the  National  Association  of  Reversionary  Property  Owners,  located 
in  Issaquah,  WA,  which  is  a  suburb  of  Seattle. 

Our  organization  is  made  up  of  a  core  group  of  1100  property 
owners  throughout  the  State  of  Washington.  We  have  associate 
groups  in  31  other  states. 

Our  purpose  is  to  educate  the  property  owners  around  the  coun- 
try that  own  property  abutting  or  adjacent  to  railroads  as  to  who 
really  owns  the  underlying  land  the  railroad  tracks  are  on. 

I  am  here  today  to  speak  in  opposition  to  Senate  Bill  1544.  The 
general  purpose  of  the  bill,  in  a  broad  sense,  is  to  repeal  the  provi- 
sions of  the  1922  Abandonment  Act,  which  designates  how  some 
U.S.  Government  granted  right-of-ways  are  disposed  of  after  aban- 
donment by  the  railroad.  The  other  provision  of  the  bill,  of  course, 
is  to  create  another  bureaucracy  called  the  Trails  Fund. 

The  proposed  bill  takes  away  the  property  rights  of  thousands  of 
property  owners  from  Illinois  to  the  Pacific  X)cean,  in  that  these 
property  owners  have  long  relied  on  the  proposition  that  the  land 
the  railroad  right-of-way  crosses  belonged  to  them  after  abandon- 
ment, free  of  the  railroad  easement. 

State  property  law  rules  that  when  an  easement  is  terminated  or 
extinguished,  then  the  underlying  land  is  free  of  the  easement.  The 
property  descriptions  have  long  been  interpreted  as  only  subject  to 
the  use  of  the  railroad  right-of-way.  In  fact,  the  Interior  Depart- 
ment regulations  43  CFR  2842,1  section  A,  1976,  I  will  quote  the 
second  sentence  of  that,  the  Government  conveys  a  fee  simple  title 
in  the  land  over  which  the  right-of-way  is  granted  to  the  person  to 
whom  the  patent  issues  from  the  legal  subdivision  on  which  the 
right-of-way  is  located,  and  such  patentee  takes  the  fee  subject  only 
to  the  railroad's  right  and  use  possession. 

That  is  speaking  in  terms  of  the  1875  right-of-way,  General 
Right-of-way  Act  and  how  those  rights-of-way  were  given  out. 

The  background  summary  of  the  bill  by  the  Congressional  Re- 
search Service,  which  I  believe  was  done  with  a  slanted  bias  toward 
adoption  of  the  bill,  the  summary  was  done  in  1984  and  not  updat- 
ed, and  it  leaves  out  three  of  the  most  recent  cases  that  are  square- 
ly on  point  on  this.  That  is  U.S.  v.  Union  Pacific  Railroad,  1957, 
the  Energy  Tranportation  System  v.  Union  Pacific  in  1979,  and  the 


no 

Aberdeen  v.  Chicago  Transportation  and  the  Chicago  North  West- 
ern in  January  1984.  I  notice  that  Mr.  Burwell  on  the  other  side 
quoted  the  only  case  he  could  find  in  all  of  the  legalhood  of  the 
Oregon  Short  Line  case,  which  was  the  only  one  of  a  different  point 
of  view. 

Also,  the  CFR  I  quoted  above  was  not  included  in  that  congres- 
sional research  paper. 

The  Department  of  the  Interior  is  evidently  relying  on,  it  ap- 
peared, until  they  spoke  earlier  today,  on  that  research  paper,  and 
obviously  they  are  going  to  redo  that  and  come  up  with  their  own 
paper,  which  was  a  surprise  to  me  when  I  heard  that  testimony 
earlier. 

The  bill  allows  an  entirely  different  use  of  the  right-of-way  than 
was  envisioned  more  than  100  years  ago  by  some  of  these  patentees 
when  they  acquired  their  patents.  Homes  and  businesses  are  built 
right  next  to  these  right-of-ways,  and  the  changing  of  the  use  to  an 
open  recreational  use  would  be  detrimental  to  the  adjacent  proper- 
ties. 

An  analogy  of  that  would  be  abandoning  a  Federal  highway,  for 
whatever  reason,  and  then  building  an  airport  on  the  abandoned 
right-of-way.  I  cannot  imagine  too  many  people  appreciating  an  air- 
port in  their  front  yard  or  their  back  yard  or  alongside  their  house. 

There  is  no  provision  in  the  bill  for  Federal  condemnation.  Due 
to  the  existing  court  precedents,  most  if  not  all  of  the  right-of-ways 
addressed  in  this  bill  would  have  to  be  condemned  in  order  for  the 
government  to  take  control  of  the  underlying  land. 

There  is  no  provision  in  the  bill  to  provide  an  appropriation  for 
condemnation. 

I  might  mention  that  everybody  earlier  was  talking  about  the 
President's  Commission  on  Americans  Outdoors.  When  the  Presi- 
dent's Commission  on  Americans  Outdoors  report  came  out,  it  talked 
about  abandoned  railroads  right-of-ways  for  trails,  but  it  talked 
strictly  about  volunteer  action  by  the  abutting  property  owners.  No 
condemnation  actions  were  mentioned  or  contemplated  in  the  final 
report  of  the  President's  bill. 

I  have  submitted  a  legal  opinion  from  Mr.  Thomas  McFarland, 
an  attorney  in  Chicago.  That  is,  I  supplied  50  copies  to  the  staff 
yesterday.  I  will  not  get  into  that. 

Senator  Metzenbaum.  Well,  in  that — I  looked  at  the  legal  opin- 
ion. He  says  that  the  United  States  owns  the  title,  fee  title  having 
remained  in  the  United  States,  there  is  no  reversionary  interest  in 
the  United  States  upon  the  abandonment  of  the  rights-of-way  upon 
which  either  43  U.S.C.  912  or  the  bill  could  operate. 

As  I  understand  what  he  is  saying,  he  is  saying  that  the  United 
States  has  the  title.  If  they  have  the  title,  then  how  can  anyone 
claim  to  have  any  reversionary  interest  in  it? 

Mr.  Welsh.  I  would  like  to — I  was  going  to  speak  to  that.  Sena- 
tor. 

The  first  two  pages  is  what  he  calls  his  executive  summary,  and 
we  did  not  have  enough  time  for  me  to  go  over  that  after  I  received 
it  from  him.  You  have  to  read  that  in  context  preferably  with  the 
memorandum  behind  there. 

Mr.  McFarland  splits  the  Federal  grant  right-of-ways  into  three 
separate  sections,   1850  to   1862,   1862  to   1871,   and   1871   to  the 


Ill 

present.  His  three  sentences  in  there  speak  to  those  three  things, 
but  they  do  not  delineate  that.  His  third  sentence  is  speaking  in 
regards  to  the  land  that  the  Federal  Government  still  is  the  abut- 
ting owner  of,  and  when  you  read  the  rest  of  his  memorandum,  you 
will  see  that  he  quotes  the  court  cases  that  decided  this,  and  the 
CFR,  and  the  Department  of  Interior  opinions. 

His  first  page  on  the  executive  summary  is  very — in  fact,  it  was 
tough  for  me  to  understand  what  he  was  talking  about,  and  I  called 
him  before  we  came  out  here  today  to 

Senator  Metzenbaum.  I  guess  I  do  not  understand  your  position. 
I  am  really  having  trouble  comprehending. 

Mr.  Welsh.  Well,  our  position  is  that  the  Federal  Government, 
when  they  patented  the  land,  sir 

Senator  Metzenbaum.  When  they  what? 

Mr.  Welsh.  When  they  patented  the  land  to  the  homesteader  or 
to  whoever  it  happened  to  be  back  in  the  1800's  and  even  into  the 
1920's,  the  Federal  Government  gave  those  patents,  or  sold  those 
patents  with  the  underljdng — with  the  railroad  on  them  already, 
and  they  sold  whatever  interest  they  had  in  the  right-of-way  when 
they  sold  the  patents,  or  when  they  gave  the  patents.  A  lot  of  them 
were  given. 

Senator  Metzenbaum.  You  are  talking  about  patents,  and  I  am 
talking  about  what  his  letter  says. 

First  of  all,  he  says  the  bill  is  a  nullity,  it  will  not  make  any  dif- 
ference. It  says  it  will  have  little  or  no  legal  effect. 

So  if  it  has  little  or  no  legal  effect,  you  do  not  have  anything  to 
object  to,  do  you? 

Mr.  Welsh.  The  objection  we  have  is  trjdng  to  go  to  court  to 
overturn  any  effect  that  the  bill  would  have. 

Senator  Metzenbaum.  But  it  has  no  effect.  He  says  so.  He  says  it 
has  no  effect,  so  what  are  you  worrying  about? 

Mr.  Welsh.  If  you  pass  the  bill,  it  is  just  like  the  Trails  Act, 
1247(d).  There  are  two  major  lawsuits  in  Federal  Court  on  that  on 
the  challenge,  and  I  happen  to  have  one  of  them.  One  of  them  we 
have  already  argued  that  before  the  U.S.  Appeals  Court,  waiting 
for  a  decision.  The  other  one  is  sitting  in  the  Missouri  Federal 
Court  right  now,  St.  Louis  Federal  Court,  and  exactly  what  you  are 
suggesting  here  is  they  passed  the  bill,  and  even  back  then  there 
was  a  problem  with  the  challenge  of  the  constitutionality  of  part  of 
1247(d). 

Senator  Metzenbaum.  Is  it  not  correct  that  none  of  the  right-of- 
way  in  the  Missouri  case  was  federally  granted? 

Mr.  Welsh.  There  is  some  of  that.  It  was  part  of  the  Federal 
grant. 

Senator  Metzenbaum.  What? 

Mr.  Welsh.  Part  of  the  right-of-way  is  federally  granted  in  the 
Missouri  case.  I  think  there  is  around — not  very  many  miles  com- 
pared to  the  200  miles  total  of  the  Missouri  Katy  Railroad,  I  think 
there  are  just  a  few  sections  in  there  that  were  still  owned  by  the 
Government  when  the  railroad  went  through. 

Senator  Metzenbaum.  Well,  I  guess  the  difficulty  I  am  having 
with  your  testimony,  Mr.  Welsh,  is  to  understand  it  based  upon 
your  lawyer's  analysis.  He  says  two  things.  He  says,  one,  the  bill 


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would  have  very  little  or  no  legal  effect.  If  it  has  no  legal  effect, 
then  you  do  not  have  to  worry  about  it.  It  is  a  nullity. 

The  second  thing  he  says,  fee  title  having  remained  in  the 
United  States,  there  is  no  reversionary  interest  in  the  United 
States  upon  abandonment  of  the  rights-of-way  upon  which  either 
43  U.S.C.  912  or  the  bill  could  operate.  Therefore,  you  can  step 
aside  and  say,  well,  it  has  no  effect,  and  our  lawyers  will  point  that 
out  if  it  ever  gets  enacted. 

Mr.  Welsh.  That  is  true,  and  that  could  happen,  but  I  would 
much  rather  have  the  bill  either  not  passed  at  all,  or  passed  in  a 
constitutional  method  so  that  we  do  not  have  to  go  to  court  again 
sometime  down  the  road  when  the  first — let's  just  say  you  passed 
the  bill  as  it  is  today,  and  they  abandon  a  railroad.  Then  the  first 
person  that  has  his  property  taken  or  thinks  he  has  his  property 
taken  would  have  to  go  to  Federal  Court  on  it,  and  that  is  what  we 
are  trying  to  forestall. 

And  I  think  what  the  Interior  Department  and  Mr.  Mott  both 
said,  they  both  have  a  problem  with  the  legal  titles.  Maybe  the 
Federal  Government  does  not  have  any  interest  whatsoever  in 
these  right-of-ways. 

The  first  two  pages  of  Mr.  McFarland's  thing  have  to  be  read 
with  the  following  nine  pages,  and  I  think  that  would — it  clarifies 
his  position  more  than  particularly  his  first  page.  I  do  not  think  it 
is  in  the  proper  context. 

Senator  Metzenbaum.  Well,  you  say  that,  and  yet  I  have  to  say 
that  the  first  two  pages  are  his  letters,  and  they  are  very  succinct 
in  what  he  is  saying,  and  so  I  have  to — I  do  not  know  how  you  can 
say  to  me  pay  no  attention  to  this  lawyer's  letter. 

Mr.  Welsh.  No,  I  did  not  say  that. 

Senator  Metzenbaum.  I  try  to  read  it  as  it  is,  and  it  is  widely 
acknowledged  that  under  the  1922  act,  that  a  State  government 
can  claim  a  federally  granted  right-of-way  for  public  highway  pur- 
poses for  free  within  one  year  of  abandonment. 

Do  you  believe  that  also  constitutes  a  taking? 

Mr.  Welsh.  It  depends  on  what  t)T)e  of — how  the  right-of-way 
was  originally  granted.  If  it  was  an  1862  to  1871  grant  or  an  1871 
to  present  grant. 

Now,  the  Federal  Court  in  the  Aberdeen  case  in  1981,  1984,  said 
that  th  1875  act  granting  right-of-ways  was — the  1922  act  did  not 
affect  1875  right-of-way  grants.  They  made  the  imposition,  they  in- 
timated that  possibly  1862  to  1871  right-of-way  grants  would  be  af- 
fected by  the  1922  law,  and  it  is  Mr.  McFarland's  opinion  in  his 
memorandum  that  even  the  1862  to  1871  right-of-way  grants  would 
not  be  affected  under  the  Energy  Transportation  System  case  of 
1979,  which,  I  am  not  an  attorney,  I  cannot  speak  to  that  case.  I 
am  sorry. 

Senator  Metzenbaum.  Well,  thank  you  very  much,  Mr.  Welsh. 
We  will  take  your  testimony  into  consideration. 

Your  entire  statement  will  be  included  in  the  record. 

[The  prepared  statement  of  Mr.  Welsh  follows:] 


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National  Association  of  Reversionary  Property  Owners 

2311  E.  LAKE  SAMMAMISH  PL.  St.      ISSAQUAH,  WA  98027 
(206)  392-1024 

Richard  Welsh,  Executive  Director 

March  3,  1988 

To:  The  Subcommittee  on  Public  Lands,  National   Parks  and  Forests 

The  National  Association  of  Reversionary  Property  Owners  is  a  group  of 
property  owners  united  together  to  educate  the  citizens  of  the  United  States 
about  the  true  ownership  of  railroad,  utility,  highway  and  governmental 
Rights-Of-Way. 

This  is  the  Association's  information  packet  in  opposition  to  proposed  Senate 
Bill  1544  now  before  the  Public  Lands,  National  Parks  and  Forests  Subcommittee 
of   the  Senate  Energy  and  Natural   Resources  Committee. 

This  packet  contains  behind  this  cover  sheet: 

Tab  1.  Bill  Description  by  Section,  Background  and  Summary 
prepared  by  the  National  Association  of  Reversionary 
Property  Owners 

Tab  2.  The  Legal   Effect  and  Constitutional  ty  of  Senate  Bill    1544 

prepared  by  Mr.  Thomas  McFarland  a  transportation  specialist 
attorney  from  Chicago,  Illinois 

Tab3.     A  Memorandum  of  the  Legal   Effects  of  Federal   Grants  of 

Right-Of-Ways  to  Railroads  prepared  by  Mr.  Thomas  McFarland 

The  Association  wants  to  thank  the  Chairman  and  the  Subcommittee  for  the 
opportunity  to  present  our  views  on  Senate  Bill    1544. 


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United  States  Congress  vjx 

SenateBlli    1544  of.  100th  Congress 


BILL  DESCRIPTION  BY  SECTION 

Section  1.  Short  Title:  National   Trails  System  Improvement  Act  of   1987 

Section  2.  Findings 

Section  3.  Amend  Section  9  of  National   Trails  System  Act   by 

repealing  most  of  Act  of   March  8,  1922  (43  USC  912) 
and  allowing  the  donation  or   selling  of  abandoned 
railroad   right  of  way   land   to  private  entities  or 
other   governments. 

Section  4.  Setting  up  new   bureaucracy  called  Trails  Fund  and 
calling   for  appropriation  of  $700,000  per  year   for 
administration  and   trails  purchases.  Designating  Dept. 
of   Interior   to  make   rules.  Calls   for  yearly  report. 


BACKGROUND: 


In  1850,  1862  and  1864  Congress  passed  laws  granting  railroad  right  of  ways 
and  alternate  section  land  grants  to  several  railroads  for  the  purposes  of 
opening  up  the  western  United   States. 

In  1871  Congress  changed  its  attitude  on  railroad  land  grants  and  only  granted 
right  of   ways   for   railroad  purposes   to  railroads. 

In  1875  Congress  passed  the  General  Right  of  Way  Act  which  granted  200  foot 
right  of  ways  to  railroads  for  railroad  purposes.  The  1875  Act  differed  from 
previous  Acts  as  there  was  no  inclusion  of  land  grants.  Under  this  1875  Act, 
railroads  could  build  their  railroads  on  government  land  and  notify  the  local  land 
office  after  completion  of  each  20  mile  section  with  a  map  of   definite   location. 

In  1922  Congress  passed  the  Act  of  March  8,  1922,  (43  U.S.C.  912)  which  pro- 
vides for  the  disposition  of  abandoned  or  forfeited  railroad  grants.  This  Act 
provides  that  abandoned  right  of  ways  vest  or  revert  to  the  abutting  property 
owner. 

There  is  a  difference  between  the  pre-1871  right  of  way  grants  and  the 
post-1871  right  of  way  grants.  Pre-1871  grants  left  the  land  the  right  of  way 
was  on  m  ownership  of  the  U.S.  even  if  the  land  was  later  patented,  but  in 
post-1871  right  of  way  grants,  the  land  the  right  of  way  was  on  went  with  the 
patentee,  subject  only  to  the  railroad  use.  See  Great  Northern  v.  U.S.,  315  US 
262,  272  (1942),  State  of  Wyoming  v.  Udall,  379  F.2d  635,  (10th  Circuit  1967), 
cert,  denied  389  US  985  (1967),  Energy  Transp.  Systems,  Inc.  v.  Union  Pacific  R. 
Co..  606  f.2d  934,  937  (10th  Cir.  1979),  City  of  Aberdeen  v.  Chicago  Transp..  602 
F.  Supp.  589,  (1984),  see  also,  43  CFR  2842.1(a). 

The  1922  Act  has  been  held  by  the  some  federal  courts  to  only  pertain  to 
pre-1871  right  of  way  grants  because  the  U.S.  retained  an  interest  in  the 
pre-1871  grants.  In  post-1871  grants  the  courts  have  held  that  the  future 
patentee  got  the  interest  of  the  right  of  way  with  the  patent,  subject  only  to 
the   railroad  use,  and  the   1922  Act   does  not  apply.     See  above  cites. 


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SUMMARY: 

The  proposed  Bill  will  take  away  the  property  rights  of  thousands  of  property 
owners  from  Illinois  to  the  Pacific  Ocean  in  that  these  property  owners  have  long 
relied  on  the  proposition  that  the  land  the  railroad  right  of  way  crosses  belongs 
to  them  after  abandonment,  free  of  the  railroad  easement.  State  property  law 
rules  that  when  an  easement  is  terminated  or  extinguished  then  the  underlying 
land  is  free  of  the  easement.  The  property  descriptions  have  long  been 
interpreted  as  only  "subject  to  the  use  of  the  railroad".  Their  title  companies 
have  long  been  insuring  their  properties  as  only  "subject  to  the  railroad  right  of 
way".  In  fact  Interior  Department  regulations,  43  CFR  2842.  1(a)  (1976), 
describing  the  nature  of  the  1875  Right-of-Way  Act  read  as  follows: 

"A  railroad  company  to  which  a  right-of-way  is  granted 
does  not  secure  a  full   and  complete   title  to  the   land 
on  which  the   right-of-way  is   located.  It  obtains  only  the 
right   to  use   the   land   for  the  purposes  for  which  it   is  granted 
and   for   no  other   purpose,  and  may  hold   such  possession,   if   it 
is  necessary  to  that  use,  as   long  and  only  as   long  as  that  use 
continues.  The  Government  conveys   the   fee  simple   title   in 
the   land  over   which  the   right-of-way  is   granted   to  the 
person  to  whom  patent   issues  for   the   legal    subdivision  on  which 
the   right-of-way   is   located,  and   such  patentee   takes  the   fee 
subject  only   to  the   railroad  company's   right  of  use  and 
possession". 

The  background  summary  on  the  Bill  by  the  Congressional  Research  Service  was 
done  with  a  slanted  bias  towards  adoption  of  the  Bill.  The  summary  was  done  In 
1984,  but  It  leaves  out  three  cases  that  were  already  decided  that  are  most 
squarely  on  point,  U.S.  v.  Union  Pac.  Railroad,  353  US  112  (1957),  Energy  Transp. 
Sys.  v.  Union  Pac.  R..  606  F.2d  934  (10th  Cir.  1979),  Aberdeen  v.  Chicago  Transp. 
602  F.  Supp.589,  (Jan,  1984).  Also  the  summary  did  not  mention  43  CFR  2842.1(a) 
as  quoted  above. 

The  Bill  allows  an  entirely  different  use  of  the  right  of  way  than  was 
envisioned  more  than  100  years  ago  by  the  patentees  when  they  acquired  their 
patents.  Homes  and  businesses  are  built  right  next  to  these  right  of  ways  and 
changing  the  use  to  an  open  recreational  use  would  be  detrimental  to  the 
adjacent  properties.  An  analogy  would  be  abandoning  a  federal  highway  and  then 
building  an  airport  on  the  abandoned  road   right  of  way. 

There  is  no  provision  in  the  Bill  for  condemnation  of  private  property.  Due  to 
existing  court  precedence,  most  if  not  all  of  the  right  of  ways  addressed  in  the 
Bill  would  have  to  be  condemned  in  order  for  the  government  to  take  control  of 
the  underlying  land.  There  is  no  provision  in  the  Bill  to  provide  an  appropriation 
for  condemnation.  When  the  Presidents  Commission  for  American  Outdoors  report 
talked  about  abandoned  railroad  right  of  ways  for  trails,  It  talked  about  strictly 
volunteer  actions  by  property  owners,  no  condemnation  actions  were  mentioned  or 
contemplated. 

See  the  attached  legal  analysis  and  Memorandum  from  Mr.  Thomas  McFarland. 
Mr.  McFarland  Is  an  attorney  that  specializes  in  railroad  abandonment,  and  ha  Is 
an  expert  in  right-of-way  ownership,  both  from  Bovarnmani  grants  and 
non-government  deeds. 

All   things  considered,  there  is  no  basis  for  Senate  Bill    1544. 

Testimony    of    National    Association   of    Reversionary    Property    Owners.    Richard 
Welsh,  Executive  Director  _2_ 


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Thomas  F.  McFarland,  Jr.  ■<  Peter  N.Todhunteh 

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Mr.  Richard  Welsh,  Executive  Director 
National  Association  of  Reversionary 

Property  Owners 
2311  East  Lake  Sairunainish  Place,  SE 
Issaquah,  WA   98027 

Re:   Senate  Bill  No.  1544,  The  National  Trails 
System  Improvements  Act  of  1987 

Dear  Mr.  Welsh: 

You  have  asked  that  we  analyze  the  legal  effect  and 
constitutionality  of  the  above  Bill. 

The  Bill  would  have  very  little  or  no  legal  effect.   In 
43  U.S.C.  912,  the  United  States  assigned  its  reversionary  interest 
in  land  that  was  granted  to  railroad  companies  for  use  as  rights- 
of-way,  to  municipalities  or  adjacent  landowners  in  the  event  of 
abandonment  of  such  rights-of-way.   The  Bill  proposes  to  take  back 
that  assignment  prospectively.   Except  with  respect  to  the  very 
early  land-grants  for  rights-of-way  prior  to  1862,  the  Courts  have 
ruled  unequivocally  that  rights-of-way  granted  by  the  United  States 
were  easements  only,  and  that  the  fee  interest  in  the  land  remained 
in  the  United  States.   In  that  respect,  as  to  rights-of-way  granted 
between  1862  and  1871,  see  United  States  v.  Union  Pacific  Railroad 
Co. .  353  U.S.  112,  119  (1957),  and  Energy  Transp.  Systems.  Inc.  v. 
U.  Pac.  R.  Co..  606  F.2d  934,  937  (10th  Cir. ,  1979).   As  to  rights- 
of-way  granted  after  1871  under  right-of-way  statutes,  including 
the  General  Right-of-Way  Act  of  1875,  see  Great  Northern  Railway 
Company  v.  United  States.  315  U.S.  262,  277  (1942),  and  City  of 
Aberdeen  v.  Chicago  &  North  Transp. ,  602  F.  Supp.  589,  593  (D.,  So. 
Dak.,  N.D.,  1984);  see,  also.  43  C.F.R.  2842.1(a).   Fee  title 
having  remained  in  the  United  States,  there  is  no  reversionary 
interest  in  the  United  States  upon  abandonment  of  the  rights-of-way 
upon  which  either  43  U.S.C.  912  or  the  Bill  could  operate.   The 
same  undoubtedly  is  true  of  the  pre-1862  land-grant  rights-of-way; 
however,  that  fact  has  not  yet  been  judicially  determined.   In  that 
the  Bill  would  have  such  minimal  or  no  legal  effect,  it  will  not 
accomplish  its  stated  objective  of  recapturing  sufficient  rever- 
sionary interests  of  the  United  States  to  provide  for  a  self- 
financing  "trails  fund." 


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Mr.  Richard  Welsh 
February  25,  1988 
Page  2 

Notwithstanding  the  clear  limited  effect  of  the  Bill, 
some  of  its  background  materials  suggest  that  it  will  be  attempted 
to  be  applied  to  all  rights-of-way  granted  by  the  United  States,  on 
the  incorrect  predicate  that  the  United  States  has  a  reversionary 
interest  in  all  of  such  rights-of-way.   Such  an  application  clearly 
would  be  unconstitutional  as  a  taking  of  private  property  for 
public  use  without  just  compensation  in  violation  of  the  Fifth 
Amendment. 

It  is  argued  in  the  background  materials  of  the  Bill  that 
there  would  be  no  such  taking  because  the  interest  of  adjacent 
landowners  in  such  rights-of-way  under  43  U.S.C.  912  is  contingent 
and  reversionary,  so  that  it  does  not  vest  into  a  constitutionally- 
protected  interest  until  actual  abandonment  of  such  rights-of-way 
occurs.   On  the  contrary,  the  interest  of  adjacent  landowners  in 
such  rights-of-way  derives  from  their  patents  of  fee  title  from  the 
United  States  (which,  as  shown,  retained  such  title  in  the  grants)  , 
not  from  or  by  virtue  of  4  3  U.S.C.  912.   When  the  easement  for  the 
right-of-way  is  abandoned,  the  adjacent  landowners  enjoy  the  use  of 
the  land  that  they  already  own.   City  of  Aberdeen  v.  Chicago  S 
North  Transp. ,  supra,  602  F.  Supp. ,  at  p.  593.   Unquestionably,  the 
fee  title  of  adjacent  landowners,  vested  at  the  time  of  their 
patents  from  the  United  States,  is  a  constitutionally-protected 
private  property  interest  under  the  Fifth  Amendment. 

It  would  seem  that  the  Bill  should  not  be  enacted  because 
it  will  not  accomplish  its  stated  legislative  objective,  but 
instead,  as  apparently  sought  to  be  applied,  it  will  engender 
extensive  constitutional  litigation  that  will  not  be  fruitful  for 
the  United  States  and  that  will  be  costly  for  its  patentees. 

In  the  next  several  days,  I  will  furnish  a  memorandum 
that  provides  additional  support  for  the  legal  conclusions  that 
appear  in  this  letter.  » 

Very  truly  yours, 

''\  1*  V  VI  i  V]  <:  I-  (X-v  Lvwi- \ 

Thomas  F.  McFarland,  Jr. 

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MEMORANDUM 

LEGAL  EFFECTS  OF  FEDERAL  GRANTS 
OF  RIGHT-OF-WAY  TO  RAILROADS 

I.   Types  of  Federal  Grants  of  Right-of-way 

The  history  of  Congressional  aid  for  railroad 
construction  in  the  nineteenth  century  can  be  divided  into  two 
distinct  time  periods:  (1)  1850-1871  and  (2)  post-1871.1 

The  first  period  began  with  the  Chicago  and  Mobile  Act  of 
September  20,  1850  (9  Stat.  466) ,  and  ended  with  the  Texas  and 
Pacific  Act  of  March  3,  1871  (16  Stat.  573).   The  1850-1871  period 
was  noted  not  only  for  grants  of  right-of-way  through  the  public 
domain,  but  also  for  large  grants  in  fee  of  square-mile  sections  in 
checker-board  fashion  to  railroads  who  successfully  constructed  the 
prescribed  rail  routes.   The  Acts  between  1850  and  1871  caused  a 
total  of  over  130  million  acres  of  public  land  to  be  eventually 
patented  to  70  individual  railroad  companies. 

The  second  period  of  Federal  aid,  post-1871,  took  the 
form  of  rights-of-way  only  across  public  lands  for  railroad 
location. 


History  of  Railroad  land  grants  from  the  following: 

Paul  W.  Gates,  History  of  Public  Land  Law 
Development  (P^lblic  Land  Law  Review  Commission, 
1968) . 

Public  Aids  to  Transportation  Vol  II.  Aids  to 
Railroads  and  Related  Subjects  (Federal 
Coordinator  of  Transportation,  1938)  . 


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After  the  Texas  and  Pacific  Act  of  March  3,  1871, 
Congress  ended  its  policy  of  lavish  grants  of  sectional  land  to 
newly-constructed  railroads.   Congress  passed  at  least  15  separate 
"Right-of-way"  acts  between  1871-1875  for  individual  railroads  that 
needed  to  locate  their  right-of-way  across  public  lands  and  could 
not  do  so  by  their  limited  eminent  domain  powers  against  Federal 
property.   Congress  therefore  passed  the  General  Right-of-Way  Act 
of  March  3,  1875  (18  Stat.  482)  to  allow  any  railroad  chartered  by 
a  state,  territory,  or  Congress  to  obtain  a  200-foot  wide  right-of- 
way  through  the  public  lands. 

The  Chicago  and  Mobile  Act  of  September  20,  1850,  which 
created  the  Illinois  Central  and  the  Mobile  and  Ohio  Railroads,  was 
a  Federal  grant  to  the  states  of  Illinois,  Mississippi,  and  Alabama 
for  a  200-foot  right-of-way  and  every  even  numbered  section  of  land 
within  6  miles  on  either  side  of  the  actual  railroad  as  con- 
structed.  The  sections  of  public  land  patented  to  the  railroad 
within  6  miles  of  the  main  line  were  known  as  "primary  lands"  or 
"place  lands."  If  these  even  numbered  sections  were  previously 
disposed  of  by  the  Federal  government,  then  the  railroad  could 
select  even  numbered  "indemnity  lands"  or  "in  lieu  lands"  out  to  15 
miles  on  either  side  of  the  rail  line  to  make  up  for  a  deficiency 
in  place  lands.   The  railroad  right-of-way  would  cross  public  land 
sections  that  would  remain  with  the  government  (odd  numbered)  and 
also  sections  (even  numbered)  which  the  railroad  would  earn  by 
construction. 


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The  Chicago  and  Mobile  Act  was  typical  of  all  of  the  land 
grant  acts  up  until  the  First  Pacific  Railroad  Act  of  July  1,  1862 
(12  Stat.  489) .   Those  Acts  before  1862  were  grants  to  individual 
states  which  acted  in  a  sort  of  trust  capacity  for  the  railroads 
until  the  grant  was  earned  for  the  company  by  construction.   None 
of  the  pre-1862  Acts  (all  to  states)  contained  a  mineral  reserva- 
tion, while  all  of  the  grants  from  1862  to  1871  (some  to  states  and 
some  to  individual  railroads)  did  contain  such  a  reservation. 

The  Pacific  Railroad  Act  of  July  1,  1862  was  Federal  aid 
directly  to  the  Union  Pacific  and  Central  Pacific  Railroads  to 
construct  the  first  transcontinental  railroad  from  Omaha,  Nebraska 
to  San  Francisco,  California.   A  400-foot  right-of-way  was  granted 
by  Section  2  of  the  Act.   Section  3  granted  every  odd  numbered 
section  of  place  land  up  to  20  miles  on  each  side  of  the  railroad 
with  the  exception  that  mineral  land  sections  could  not  be 
selected. 

II.   Judicial  Construction  of  Right-of-Way 
Property  Interests 

The  Supreme  Court  in  Northern  Pacific  Railway  v.  Town- 
send.  190  U.S.  267  (1903);  classified  the  railroads'  interest  in 
1850-1871  land  grant  right-of-way  as  a  "limited  fee,  made  on  an 
implied  condition  of  reverter  in  the  event  that  the  company  ceased 
to  use  or  retain  the  land  for  the  purpose  for  which  it  was  granted" 
(at  p.  271).   Townsend  dealt  with  the  Pacific  Railroad  Act  of 
July  2,  1864  (13  Stat.  365)  (400-foot  right-of-way  grant),  and 
ruled  that  a  homesteader  could  not  use  adverse  possession  to  gain 


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title  to  areas  within  the  right-of-way.   Townsend .  at  p.  272, 
reconfirmed  the  principle  that  when  Congress  granted  a  400-foot 
right-of-way  it  would  have  to  remain  a  400-foot  right-of-way,  and 
neither  adverse  possession  claims  nor  attempted  sale  by  the 
railroad  could  narrow  the  width  of  the  corridor.  A  later  act  of 
Congress  allowed  the  Northern  Pacific  to  alienate  the  right-of-way 
up  to  100-feet  on  either  side  of  the  rail  line. 

The  General  Railroad  Right-of-Way  Act  of  1875  was  first 
Interpreted  by  the  Supreme  Court  in  Rio  Grande  W.  Rv.  Co.  v. 
Str inaham .  239  U.S.  44  (1915).   The  Court,  citing  Townsend .  took 
note  that  the  rights  granted  under  the  1875  Act,  and  similar  Acts, 
were  "neither  a  mere  easement,  nor  a  fee  simply  absolute,  but 
rather  a  limited  fee  ..."  (at  p.  47).   By  the  ruling  in  Strina- 
ham.  the  "limited  fee"  analysis  in  Townsend  was  engrafted  on  the 
Right-of-way  Act  of  1875.  However,  27  years  later  in  1942,  the 
Supreme  Court  would  overrule  Stringham  with  respect  to  the  Right- 
of-Way  Act  of  1875. 

It  was  against  the  background  of  the  Townsend  and 
Stringham  decision,  to  the  effect  that  both  18^0-1871  and  post- 
1871  Federally  granted  rights-of-way  were  considered  to  be  limited 
fees  subject  to  reversion  to  the  United  States,  that  in  1922 
Congress  enacted  the  Railroad  Right-of-Way  Abandonment  Act  (codi- 
fied at  43  U.S.C^  912).   Section  912  provides  that  upon  abandonment 
of  Federally-granted  rights-of-way,  the  reversionary  interest  in 
the  United  States  would  ianediately  vest  in  the  person  or  entity 
owning  the  land  traversed  by  the  railroad  line,  except  when  the 


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right-of-way  was  within  a  municipality,  the  reversionary  interest 
would  then  be  vested  in  that  municipality.   Thirty-five  years 
later,  in  1957,  a  Supreme  Court  decision  would  raise  the  issue  of 
whether  Section  912  could  be  applied  to  any  type  of  United  States 
right-of-way  grant. 

Great  Northern  Railway  Company  v.  United  States.  315  U.S. 
262  (1942)  overruled  the  Strinqham  case  in  respect  to  post-1871 
right-of-way,  and  in  particular  the  Right-of-Way  Act  of  1875.   This 
case  originated  when  the  railroad  attempted  to  drill  for  oil  and 
gas  on  right-of-way  obtained  pursuant  to  the  1875  Act.   The 
unanimous  Court  held  that  the  grant  was  an  easement  only  and  did 
not  include  any  right  to  underlying  minerals.   The  Court  noted  that 
the  1875  Act  was  the  result  of  a  "sharp  change**  in  Congressional 
policy,  and  it  found  it  "improbable  that  Congress  intended  by  it  to 
grant  more  than  a  right  of  passage,  let  alone  mineral  riches**  (at 
p.  275). 

After  Great  Northern,  the  type  of  estates  in  the  1850- 
1871  rights-of-way  could  still  be  considered  defined  by  Townsend  as 
limited  fees  with  reversion  to  the  Federal  government  and  subject 
to  the  Railroad  Abandonment  Act  of  1922.   See,  for  example.  United 
States  v.  Illinois  Central  R.  Co. .  89  F.  Supp.  17  (E.D.,  111., 
1949),  aff 'd. .  187  F.2d  374  (1951),  (Sept.  20,  1850,  Act  Right-of- 
Way)  which  found  that  the  oil  and  gas  rights  belonged  to  the 
railroad.   The  Court  relied  on  Townsend  in  so  ruling. 

The  next  important  right-of-way  case  is  United  States  v. 
Union  Pacific.  353  U.S.  112  (1957).*  The  Supreme  Court  followed  the 


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rationale  of  the  Court  in  Kern  River  v.  United  States ^  257  U.S.  147 

(1921),  rather  than  Tovmsend.  and  focused  on  the  purpose  of  the 

grant  (i.e.,  "railroad  purposes")  and  not  the  duration  of  the 

estate  (i.e.,  "limited  fee").   Union  Pacific  is  discussed  in  a 

recent  publication  of  the  American  Bar  Association^  as  follows: 

In  Union  Pacific,  the  United  States  brought 
action  to  enjoin  the  Union  Pacific  Railroad 
Company  for  drilling  of  oil  and  gas  on  the 
right  of  way  granted  to  it  under  section  2  of 
the  Union  Pacific  Act  of  1862.   In  an  opinion 
by  Justice  Douglas,  the  Supreme  Court  held  that 
the  "mineral  lands"  exception  found  at  section 
3  of  the  Act  (which  addressed  lands  granted  in 
aid  of  railroad  construction)  applied  to 
section  2  (which  addressed  the  railroad  right 
of  way) ,  so  that  the  exception  found  at  section 
3  of  the  Act  was  implied  in  section  2,  result- 
ing in  an  exception  of  "minerals"  in  the 
section  2  of  the  right-of-way  grant.   There- 
fore, the  Court  held,  the  interest  obtained  by 
the  railroad  was  not  a  fee  simple  interest,  nor 
a  "limited  fee"  interest,  but  a  mere  easement. 

(Emphasis  in  original,  footnote  omitted) 

All  of  the  land  grant  rights-of-way  created  by  Congress 

between  1862-1871  have  similar  mineral  reservations,  as  was 

discussed  in  Union  Pacific.   But  the  mineral  rights  reservation  was 

not  the  only  reason  for  the  Union  Pacific  Court  and  other  Courts  to 

do  away  with  the  "limited  fee"  concapt. 

For  the  purposes  of  this  case,  we  are  not 
impressed  with  labels  applied  to  the  title  of 
railroads  in  their  rights-of-way  across  the 
public  lands  of  the  United  States.   The  concept 
of  "limited  fee"  was  no  doubt  applied  in 


2    Thomas  E.  Root,  Railroad  Land  Grants  from  Canals  to 
Transcontinentals .  Section  of  Ni^tural  Resources  Law  -  American  Bar 
Association,  Chicago,  111.,  1987. 


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Townsend  because  vuider  the  common  law  an 
easement  was  an  incorporeal  hereditament  which 
did  not  give  an  exclusive  right  of  possession. 
With  the  expansion  of  the  meaning  of  easements 
to  include,  so  far  as  railroads  are  concerned, 
a  right  in  perpetuity  to  exclusive  use  and 
possession,  the  need  for  the  "limited  fee" 
label  disappeared. 

(Footnote  omitted)  State  of  Wyoming  v.  Udall. 
379  F.2d  635,  640  (10th  Cir. ,  1967). 

The  easement  ruling  in  Union  Pacific  was  followed  in 
finding  that  coal  slurry  pipeline  could  cross  the  servient  estate 
(not  owned  by  the  railroad)  beneath  the  1862  Act  Union  Pacific 
Railroad  right-of-way  easement.   Energy  Transp.  Systems.  Inc.  v.  U. 
Pac.  R.  Co. .  (even  nximber  section,  "that  it  granted  only  an 
easement  for  the  right-of-way  cannot  be  gainsaid") ,  435  F.  Supp. 
313,  317  (D.C.  Wyoming,  1977);  Energy  Transp.  Systems,  v.  Unioa 
Pac.  R.  R.  Co.  (odd  number  section,  the  Union  Pacific  railroad 
".  .  .by  way  of  its  right-of-way  easement  and  within  that  easement 
.  .  ."),  456  F.  Supp.  154,  16S  (D.C.  Kansas,  1978)  both  aff'd.  at 
606  F.2d  934  (10th  Cir.,  1979). 

Does  the  Union  Pacific  ruling  apply  to  the  1850-1862 
right-of-way?  Professor  Robert  W.  Swenson  in  "Railroad  Land 
Grants:  A  Chapter  in  Public  Land  Law,"  5  Utah  Law  Review,  456,  461 
(1958) ,  explains  that  United  States  v.  Union  Pacific,  lupra,  was 
based  not  only  on  the  mineral  exception  under  Section  3  of  the  Act, 
but  also  upon  the  construction  and  meaning  to  be  given  the  phrase 
"the  right  of  way"  and  that  the  right-of-way  was  granted  expressly 
"for  the  construction  of  said  railroad  and  telegraph  line." 


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Swenson  further  notes  that  if  the  Union  Pacific  "...  interpreta- 
tion of  the  statute  is  observed  in  constructing  other  grants, 
decisions  such  as  the  Illinois  Central  case  would  seem  to  be 
incorrectly  decided."  There  does  not  appear  to  be  any  case  that 
answers  this  question.   Perhaps  it  is  because  railroad  companies 
who  own  1850-1862  right-of-way  prefer  to  "let  sleeping  dogs  lie." 
See,  Burke  v.  Gulf.  Mobile  and  Ohio  Railroad  Co. ,    324  F.  Supp.  125, 
1129  (S.D.  Alabama,  1971). 

III.  Conclusions 

1.    The  United  States  does  not  retain  a  reversionary 
interest  in  post-1871  right-of-way  grants.   Because  the  United 
States  does  not  have  a  reversionary  interest  in  such  easement 
right-of-way,  the  Railroad  Right-of-Way  Act  of  1922  cannot  now 
apply  to  such  rights-of-way  when  they  are  abandoned.   In  regard  to 
post-1871  right-of-way,  any  proposed  Congressional  bill  that 
purports  to  retain  such  Federal  right,  title,  interest,  or  estate, 
as  would  not  be  subject  to  43  U.S.C.  §  912  would  be  totally 
ineffective.   City  of  Aberdeen  v.  Chicago  &  Worth  Transp. .  620  F. 
Supp.  589,  593  (D. ,  So.  Dak.,  D. ,  1984). 

When  a  railroad  easement  is  abandoned,  it  expires  by  its 
own  limitation.   When  the  railroad's  interest  is  merely  an  ease- 
ment, upon  abandonment  it  is  appropriate  to  speak  in  terms  of  the 
burden  of  the  dominant  estate  (the  railroad  easement)  being  lifted 
from  the  servient  estate  (the  underlying  fee) .   Schnabel  v.  County 
of  DuPaqe.  101  111.  App.3d,  553,  559;  428  N.E.  671  (111.  App.  Ct. , 


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1981);  Brown  v.  Weare.  348  Mo.  135,  152  S.W.2d  649  (Sup.  Ct. ,  Mo., 
1941) ;  See,  also.  "Railroad  Right  of  Way:   The  Real  Property 
Interest  in  Kansas,"  25  Washburn  Law  Journal  327,  342  (1981). 

2.  The  same  analysis  as  given  to  post  1871  right-of- 
way  is  applicable  to  1862-1871  right-of-way  grants  by  reason  of 
Union  Pacific  and  the  Energy  Transp.  System  cases. 

3.  The  analysis  applied  to  post-1871  and  to  1862-1871 
right-of-way  could  very  well  be  applied  to  1850-1862  right-of-way. 
It  is  likely  that  future  litigation  on  1850-1862  right-of-way  will 
result  in  a  finding  that  they  are  also  easements  with  no  reversion- 
ary interest  to  the  United  States. 

4.  From  a  constitutional  standpoint,  the  fee  title  of  a 
patentee  of  the  United  States  to  all  of  the  rights-of-way  described 
above  vests  at  the  time  of  the  patent  from  the  United  States,  not 
at  the  time  of  abandonment  of  the  easement.   Therefore,  an  attempt 
by  the  United  States  to  recapture  that  fee  title  requires  that  just 
compensation  be  paid  under  the  Fifth  Amendment  to  the  Constitution. 

THOMAS  F.  McFARLAND,  JR. 
Belnap,  Spencer,  McFarland, 

Emrich  &  Herman 
20  North  Wacker  Drive 
Chicago,  IL  60606 

February  26,  1988 


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Senator  Metzenbaum.  Mr.  Richard  Krause,  Assistant  Counsel  of 
the  American  Farm  Bureau  Federation. 
We  are  happy  to  have  you  with  us,  sir. 

STATEMENT  OF  RICHARD  L.  KRAUSE,  ASSISTANT  COUNSEL, 
AMERICAN  FARM  BUREAU  FEDERATION,  PARK  RIDGE,  IL 

Mr.  Krause.  Thank  you,  Mr.  Chairman.  I  am  happy  to  be  here. 

As  Mr.  Chairman  said,  my  name  is  Richard  Krause.  I  am  Assist- 
ant Counsel  with  the  American  Farm  Bureau  Federation  in  Park 
Ridge,  IL.  We  do  appreciate  the  opportunity  to  present  our  views 
on  S.  1544,  which  is  the  National  Trails  System  Improvement  Act. 

One  of  the  primary  interests  of  the  Farm  Bureau  is  the  protec- 
tion of  the  private  property  rights  of  farmers  and  ranchers,  many 
of  whom  own  property  rights  abutting  railroad  rights-of-way.  The 
National  Trails  System  Act  and  its  proposed  amendments  adverse- 
ly impact  these  property  rights. 

While  we  do  not  oppose  the  development  of  recreational  trails, 
per  se,  we  do  have  some  very  serious  concerns  about  the  lengths  to 
which  the  acts  in  general,  and  S.  1544  in  particular,  disregard 
these  private  property  rights  in  order  to  preserve  trail  corridors. 
Section  3  of  the  bill  is  of  most  concern  to  us.  It  would  provide  that 
the  reversionary  interest  to  railroad  rights-of-way  through  public 
lands  described  in  43  U.S.C.  912  would  remain  in  the  United  States 
and  provide  a  scheme  for  their  disposition. 

Section  43  U.S.C.  912,  enacted  in  1922,  expressly  granted  any 
present  and  future  rights  that  the  United  States  might  have  had  in 
those  rights-of-way  to  land  owners  or  municipalities  whose  proper- 
ty abuts  them.  Now,  for  purposes  of  this  statement,  we  are  not 
taking  a  position  one  way  or  the  other  as  to  whether  these  rights  of 
the  United  States  were  granted  by  the  1922 » act  or  by  patent.  In 
either  event,  there  is  nothing  left  for  the  United  States  to  retain. 

All  right,  title,  interest  and  estate  of  the  United  States  in  these 
rights-of-way  described  in  43  U.S.C.  912  have  already  been  fully 
conveyed  to  abutting  property  owners,  either  by  the  patent  or  by 
the  1922  act,  and  there  is  thus  no  further  interest  of  the  United 
States  that  can  be  retained  or  otherwise  disposed  of  as  provided  in 
section  3  of  the  bill.  The  United  States  cannot  dispose  of  property 
that  it  no  longer  owns. 

If,  however,  the  intent  of  the  bill  is  to  reclaim  these  property 
rights  from  land  owners,  the  fifth  amendment  to  the  Constitution 
requires  that  these  land  owners  be  compensated.  The  fifth  amend- 
ment prohibits  the  taking  of  private  property  for  public  use  with- 
out just  compensation.  Both  the  nature  of  the  interest  sought  to  be 
reclaimed  and  the  expressed  public  use  application  of  the  right-of- 
way  makes  the  fifth  amendment  squarely  applicable  to  section  3 
of  this  bill. 

The  Supreme  Court  has  variously  construed  the  rights  granted 
by  Congress  to  the  railroads,  and  by  implication,  the  rights  that 
are  retained  by  the  grantor.  Some  cases  hold  that  the  railroads  ac- 
quired nothing  more  than  an  easement  across  public  lands  with  the 
right  of  reversion  to  the  owner  of  the  underl5dng  property.  In  most 
cases,  since  these  lands  have  already  been  patented,  the  lawful 
owners  are  private  parties.  The  reversion  automatically  vests  and 


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the  right  of  possession  is  in  the  owner  when  the  land  ceases  to  be 
used  for  the  railroad  purposes. 

As  Mr.  Welsh  mentioned,  these  have  been  specifically  applied  in 
railroad  rights-of-way  since  1871. 

Earlier  decisions  had  construed  pre-1871  grants  as  being  what 
they  called  determinable  fees  under  which  the  railroad  has  the 
property  so  long  as  it  is  used  for  railroad  purposes.  Upon  cessation 
of  that  use,  the  property  reverts  to  the  person  who  had  made  the 
grant,  or  to  anyone  to  whom  he  has  transferred  his  interest.  This 
retained  right  on  the  conveyance  of  a  defeasible  fee  is  called  the 
possibility  of  a  reverter.  The  legislative  history  of  the  1922  act  and 
at  least  one  court  decision  indicate  that  this  interpretation  of  the 
railroad  interest  was  the  rationale  for  Congress'  enactment  of  the 
1922  act  through  which  they  finally  disposed  of  all  these  inter- 
ests. 

It  might  be  mentioned  that  just  prior  to  the  1922  act,  there  were 
two  Supreme  Court  cases  which  specifically  held  that  the  rights-of- 
way  were  defeasible  fees  with  an  implied  right  of  reverter. 

Regardless  of  whether  the  retained  interest  is  a  reversion  or  a 
possibility  of  reverter,  both  interests  easily  fit  within  the  broadly 
defined  private  property,  rights  that  are  protected  by  the  fifth 
amendment.  While  neither  a  revision  or  a  possiblity  of  reverter 
are  a  right  to  present  possession,  both  are  considered  present,  valid 
property  rights.  They  both  have  present  value. 

In  most  states,  both  can  be  freely  bought  and  sold.  Also,  in  most 
states,  both  are  capable  of  being  inherited  and  of  being  conveyed  by 
will. 

The  present  interest  of  the  United  States  in  these  rights-of-way 
was  expressly  conveyed  by  the  1922  act.  Since  1922,  many  of  these 
interests  have  passed  from  party  to  party  by  one  or  more  of  these 
means,  even  though  the  owner  of  this  right  does  not  have  the  cur- 
rent right  to  possession  of  the  subject  property.  These  are  incidents 
of  ownership  of  property  rights  which  the  Supreme  Court  has  re- 
peatedly held  to  be  protected  by  the  fifth  amendment's  taking 
clause. 

The  confiscatory  nature  of  current  and  proposed  amendments  to 
the  National  Trails  System  Act,  in  derogation  of  the  rights  of  pri- 
vate land  owners,  has  been  at  least  tacitly  recognized  by  the 
United  States  Justice  Department.  The  American  Farm  Bureau  is 
participating  in  a  case  currently  pending  in  Missouri  challenging  a 
similar  provision  of  the  act  relating  to  private  easements,  with  one 
of  the  grounds  being  that  the  section  at  issue  violates  the  fifth 
amendment. 

The  United  States  is  participating  in  the  case  as  an  intervenor- 
defendant,  and  has  significantly  chosen  not  to  contest  our  fifth 
amendment  taking  claims. 

Mr.  Chairman,  simply  stated,  this  bill  goes  too  far.  We  therefore 
oppose  enactment  of  S.  1544.  We  do  not  think  that  non-passage  of 
this  bill  would  have  any  adverse  impact  on  prudent  trail  develop- 
ment because  State  and  local  governments  as  well  as  private  enti- 
ties are  still  able  to  negotiate  trail  rights  from  the  present  legal 
owners  of  the  reversionary  interests  of  this  property. 

Mr.  Chairman,  we  thank  you  for  the  opportunity  to  present  our 
views  on  the  bill. 

[The  prepared  statement  of  Mr.  Krause  follows:] 


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STATEMENT  OF  THE  AMERICAN  FARM  BUREAU  FEDERATION 

TO  THE  SENATE  ENERGY  AND  NATURAL  RESOURCES  COMMITTEE 

SUBCOMMITTEE  ON  PUBLIC  LANDS 

March  3,  1988 

Presented  by 
Richard  L.  Krause 

My  name  is  Richard  L.  Krause,  Assistant  Counsel  of  the  American 
Farm  Bureau  Federation.   We  appreciate  the  opportunity  this  afternoon 
to  present  our  views  on  S.  1544,  the  "National  Trails  System 
Improvement  Act  of  1987." 

One  of  the  primary  interests  of  Farm  Bureau  is  the  protection  of 
the  private  property  rights  of  farmers  and  ranchers,  many  of  whom  own 
property  abutting  railroad  rights-of-way.   The  National  Trails  System 
Act  and  its  proposed  amendments  adversely  impact  these  property 
rights.   While  we  do  not  oppose  the  development  of  recreational 
trails  per  se,  we  do  have  very  serious  concerns  about  the  lengths  to 
which  the  Act  and  S.  1544  disregard  these  private  property  rights  in 
order  to  preserve  trail  corridors. 

Section  3  of  the  bill  is  of  most  concern  to  us.   It  would 
provide  that  the  reversionary  interests  to  railroad  rights-of-way 
through  public  lands  described  in  43  U.S.C.  912  would  remain  in  the 
United  States,  and  provides  a  scheme  for  their  disposition.   Section 
43  U.S.C.  912,  enacted  in  1922,  expressly  granted  any  present 
and  future  rights  that  the  United  States  might  have  had  in  those 
rights-of-way  to  landowners  or  municipalities  whose  property  abuts 
them. 

Section  3  of  the  bill  therefore  has  no  meaning  or  effect.   All 
"right,  title  interest,  and  estate  of  the  United  States"  in  the 
rights-of-way  described  in  43  U.S.C.  912  have  already  been  fully 
conveyed  to  abutting  property  owners  by  the  1922  Act,  and  there  is 
thus  no  further  interest  of  the  United  States  that  can  be  retained 
or  otherwise  disposed  of  as  provided  in  section  3.   The  United  States 
cannot  dispose  of  property  that  it  no  longer  owns. 

If,  however,  the  intent  of  the  bill  is  to  reclaim  these 
previously  conveyed  property  interests  from  the  abutting  landowners, 
the  Fifth  Amendment  to  the  Constitution  of  the  United  States  requires 
that  these  landowners  be  compensated. 

The  Fifth  Amendment  prohibits  the  taking  of  private  property  for 
public  use  without  just  compensation.   Both  the  nature  of  the 

interest  sought  to  be  reclaimed  and  the  express  "public  use" 
application  of  the  rights-of-way  makes  the  Fifth  Amendment  squarely 
applicable  to  section  3  of  the  bill. 

The  Supreme  Court  has  variously  construed  the  rights  granted 
by  Congress  to  the  railroads,  and  by  implication  the  corresponding 
interests  that  were  retained.   Some  cases  hold  that  railroads 
acquired  nothing  more  than  an  easement  across  public  lands,  with  a 


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right  of  reversion  to  the  owner  of  the  underlying  property.   In  most 
cases,  since  these  lands  have  been  patented,  the  lawful  owners  are 
private  parties.   The  reversion  automatically  vests  the  right  of 
possession  in  the  owner  when  the  land  ceases  to  be  used  for  railroad 
purposes.   This  construction  has  been  specifically  applied  to 
rights-of-way  granted  after  1871. 

Earlier  decisions  had  construed  pre-1871  grants  as  being 
"determinable  fees,"  under  which  the  railroad  has  the  property  so 
long  as  it  is  used  for  railroad  purposes.   Upon  cessation  of  such 
use,  the  property  reverts  to  the  person  making  the  grant  or  to  anyone 
to  whom  he  has  transferred  his  interest. 

This  retained  right  is  called  a  "possibility  of  reverter."  The 
legislative  history  of  the  1922  Act  and  at  least  one  court  decision 
indicate  that  this  interpretation  of  the  railroad  interest  furnished 
the  rationale  for  Congress  to  finally  dispose  of  these  interests  once 
and  for  all  through  the  1922  Act. 

Regardless  of  whether  the  retained  interest  is  a  "reversion" 
or  a  "possibility  of  reverter,"  both  interests  easily  fit  within 
the  broadly-defined  "private  property  rights"  protected  by  the  Fifth 
Amendment.   While  neither  a  reversion  nor  a  possibility  of  reverter 
are  a  right  to  present  possession,  both  are  considered  present, 
valid,  vested  property  rights.   They  both  have  present  value.   In 
most  states,  both  can  be  freely  bought  and  sold.   Also  in  most 
states,  both  are  capable  of  inheritance  and  conveyance  by  will.   The 
present  interest  of  the  United  States  was  expressly  conveyed  by  the 
1922  Act.   Since  1922  many  of  these  interests  have  passed  from  party 
to  party  by  one  or  more  of  these  means,  even  though  the  owner  of  this 
right  does  not  have  the  right  to  current  possession  of  the  subject 
property.   These  are  "incidents  of  ownership"  of  property  rights 
which  the  Supreme  Court  has  repeatedly  held  to  be  protected  by  the 
Fifth  Amendment. 

The  confiscatory  nature  of  current  and  proposed  amendments  to 
the  National  Trails  System  Act  in  derogation  of  the  rights  of  private 
landowners  has  been  at  least  tacitly  recognized  by  the  U.S.  Justice 
Department.   AFBF  is  participating  in  a  case  currently  pending  in 
Missouri  challenging  a  similar  provision  of  the  Act  {16  U.S.C  1247d} 
relating  to  private  easements,  with  one  of  the  grounds  being  that  the 
section  at  issue  violates  the  Fifth  Amendment.   Participating  as  an 
intervenor-defendant,  the  Justice  Department  has  significantly  chosen 
not  to  contest  our  Fifth  Amendment  taking  claims. 

Simply  stated  the  bill  goes  too  far.   We  therefore  oppose 
enactment  of  S.  1544.   There  should  be  no  adverse  impact  on  prudent 
trail  development,  because  state  and  local  governments,  as  well  as 
private  entities,  could  still  negotiate  such  trail  rights  from  the 
present  legal  owners  of  the  reversionary  interests  of  the  land. 

We  appreciate  the  opportunity  to  offer  our  views  on  S.  1544. 


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Senator  Metzenbaum.  Thank  you  very  much. 

There  seems  to  be  some  question,  Mr.  Krause,  as  to  what  is  the 
fact  as  to  who  owns  the  land  at  the  moment.  The  1922  law,  which 
we  are  amending,  provides  on  its  face  that  the  Federal  interests 
will  not  transfer  or  vest  in  adjacent  property  owners  or  municipali- 
ties until  rail  use  has  ceased,  correct? 

Mr.  Krause.  That  is  what  the  bill  says.  Your  Honor,  or  that  is 
what  the  law  says.  That  is  what  the  section  says. 

Senator  Metzenbaum.  That  is  what  the  act  of  1922  says. 

Mr.  Krause.  That  is  correct. 

Senator  Metzenbaum.  All  right.  That  means  to  me  that  the 
United  States  retains  its  interest  until  abandoned. 

Mr.  Krause.  No,  Mr.  Chairman,  I  beg  to  disagree  with  you  on 
that,  and  in  order  to  explain  the  reason  I  disagree,  I  think  we 
ought  to  look  back  to  the  situation  that  existed  in  1922.  In  the  first 
place,  as  I  mentioned,  there  were  a  couple  of  Supreme  Court  deci- 
sions that  had  recently  come  down  stating  that  the  railroad  inter- 
est is  a  defeasible  fee  with  an  implied  right  of  reverter,  and  that 
impHed  right  of  reverter  is  a  legally  recognized,  valid  property  in- 
terest which  becomes  possessory  upon  defeasance  of  the  fee. 

Well,  I  will  get  into  that.  In  any  event,  those  two  Supreme  Court 
cases,  one  of  which  has  been  overruled,  by  the  way,  and  the  other 
one  which  has  been  largely  eroded,  but  in  any  event,  the  situation 
facing  Congress  in  1922,  they  thought  that  they  owned  the  possibil- 
ity or  the  right  of  reverter  to  these  railroad  interests  as  defined  by 
the  Supreme  Court. 

Now,  these  rights  of  reverter  are  present  property  rights.  As  I 
mentioned  in  my  testimony,  they  are  capable  of  being  bought  and 
sold,  capable  of  being  inherited,  capable  of  being  conveyed  by  will. 

Senator  Metzenbaum.  Well,  you  say  that,  sir.  Where  do  you  get 
that  authority  to  make  that  statement? 

Mr.  Krause.  Mr.  Chairman,  rights  of  reverter  are  created  by  the 
use  of  the  future  tense,  and  if  I  might,  I  do  have  a  book  here  on 
property  rights,  on  defeasible  fee,  and  this  is  Cornelius  Moynihan's 
book  "Introduction  to  the  Law  of  Real  Property."  In  here  he  cites 
an  example  of  the  grant  and  the  reservation  of  a  possibility  of  re- 
verter, to  have  and  to  hold  to  B  and  his  heirs  so  long  as  the  land  is 
used  for  residential  purposes,  and  when  the  land  is  no  longer  so 
used,  it  shall  revert  to  A  and  his  heirs. 

Now,  Moynihan  says  that  A  and  his  heirs  have  a  present  proper- 
ty right  to  take  possession  upon  the  occurrence  of  that  condition. 

Senator  Metzenbaum.  That  is  a  different  thing  than  what  we 
are  talking  about  here. 

Mr.  Krause.  No,  it  is  not,  Mr.  Chairman.  It  is  not  a  different 
thing  because  this  is  what  Congress  thought  they  had.  This  is  what 
Congress  thought  that  the  United  States  had  in  1922  as  determined 
by  the  Supreme  Court. 

Senator  Metzenbaum.  Well,  I  think,  Mr.  Krause,  I  would  take 
strong  exception  to  what  you  are  saying  because  the  Congressional 
Research  Service,  which  is  an  arm  of  the  Library  of  Congress, 
comes  up  with  a  conclusion  that  the  draft  bill  prospectively  makes 
a  different  disposition  of  the  Federal  interest,  retaining  title  to 
abandoned  or  forfeited  rights-of-way  in  the  Federal  Government  in 


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order  to  facilitate  their  subsequent  use  as  part  of  the  National 
Trails  System. 

The  bill  does  not  affect  existing  vested  titles,  and  there  can  be  no 
doubt  that  the  Federal  Government  can  make  whatever  disposition 
of  its  own  property  it  chooses.  And  then  it  goes  on. 

Mr.  Krause.  You  are  right,  Mr.  Chairman.  I  think  what  the  Con- 
gressional Research  Service  is  doing  is  they  are  confusing  current, 
present,  vested  rights  of  possession  with  property  interests.  And  no- 
where is  this  area  more  confused,  for  example,  than  in  the  area  of 
future  interests.  Future  interests,  by  definition,  do  not  vest  posses- 
sion until  some  later  time.  However,  they  are  still  recognized  as 
present,  valid  property  rights. 

And  I  think  Mr.  Chairman,  I  think  it  is  also  important  to  recog- 
nize, too,  that  the  statute,  the  1922  statute,  I  think  it  would  give 
credit  to  the  Congress  back  in  1922  to  interpret  that  as  being  a 
present  conveyance  of  United  States  interests.  The  fact  that  the 
conveyance  is  done,  expressly  reserves  mineral  rights,  number  one, 
in  the  law;  number  two,  provides  that  the  conveyance  or  provides 
that  title  is  going  to  vest  automatically  without  an5d;hing  else 
having  to  be  done,  no  other  deeds  or  anjrthing  else  to  come,  sug- 
gests to  met  that  Congress  intended  to  fully  convey  those  rights  as 
of  1922,  with  possession  to  take  place  and  with  full  title  to  vest  at 
the  time  they  became  possessory,  whenever  the  railroad  stopped 
using  them  for  railroad  interests. 

Senator  Metzenbaum.  I  would  say  that  the  Solicitor  for  the  De- 
partment of  Parks  and  the  Interior  Department  I  think  come  to  a 
different  conclusion,  although  they  suggest  some  changes. 

Mr.  Krause.  I  have  not  seen  that,  Mr.  Chairman. 

Senator  Metzenbaum.  Well,  they  have  not  come  up  with  the  lan- 
guage, yes. 

Second,  certainly  Congress  can  change  its  mind  about  disposition 
until  such  time  as  the  conveyance  occurs. 

Third,  Mr.  Welsh's  lawyer  says  the  bill  means  nothing  at  all,  it  is 
a  nullity,  so  you  do  not  have  to  worry  about  it. 

Fourth,  I  think  that  Congress  has  to  do  that  which  it  thinks  it 
has  a  legal  right  to  do,  and  then  if  somebody  wants  to  challenge  it 
in  court,  the  wonderful  system  of  laws  that  we  have  in  our  country 
make  that  possible.  But  I  think  we  ought  to  do  that  which  we  think 
is  right. 

Mr.  Krause.  Mr.  Chairman,  as  we  are  learning  in  this  Missouri 
case,  you  are  correct  that  Congress  can  do  that  which  they  think  in 
those  situations.  However,  the  fifth  amendment  allows  them  to  do 
that;  although  I  think  in  this  case  the  fifth  amendment  would  re- 
quire that  compensation  be  paid,  and  if  compensation  is  not  paid, 
then  it  violates  the  Constitution. 

Senator  Metzenbaum.  Well,  it  sounds  like  an  interesting  legal 
matter.  I  do  not  think  I  will  handle  the  case;  maybe  you  will. 

With  that,  our  hearing  stands  adjourned. 

[Whereupon,  at  3:37  p.m.,  the  hearing  adjourned.] 


APPENDIX 

Additional  Material  Submitted  for  the  Record 


society  (on  American  ARChaeology 


statement  before  the 
Subconunittee  on  Public  Lands,  National  Parks  and  Forests 
Senate  Coimnittee  on  Energy  and  Natural  Resources 
Hearing  on  Fiscal  1989  Budget  for  the  Department  of  Interior 


March  3,  1988 


Mr.  Chairman,  the  Society  for  American  Archaeology  is 
pleased  to  have  the  opportunity  to  present  this  testimony.   The 
continued  interest  and  support  of  your  Subcommittee  is  a  major 
stimulus  for  archaeological  resource  protection,  research  and 
interpretation  throughout  the  United  States. 

The  Society  for  American  Archaeology  (SAA)  is  an  interna- 
tional scholarly  and  professional  association  comprised  of  both 
professional  and  avocational  archaeologists  concerned  about  the 
discovery,  interpretation  and  protection  of  the  circhaeological 
heritage  of  America.   As  such,  the  SAA  has  had  a  long  partnership 
with  the  Department  of  the  Interior  and  other  federal  land 
managing  agencies  to  help  preserve  and  promote  the  nation ' s 
cultural  and  natural  resources. 

This  year  the  SAA  has  several  specific  funding  requests  to 
bring  to  your  attention. 

NATIONAL  PARK  SERVICE 
Operations  of  the  National  Park  System 

Proposed  Reductions  of  Base  Funding: 

The  Society  is  greatly  concerned  about  the  Administration's 
proposed  reduction  in  the  Park  Operations  budget.   The  requested 
cut  of  $52.2  million  in  federal  funding,  to  be  supplemented  by 
fee  collections,  seems  to  contradict  the  intention  of  the 
enabling  legislation. 

Indeed,  as  we  understand  it,  the  intent  of  the  park  fee 
legislation  was  not  to  substitute  federal  appropriations,  but 
rather  to  supplement  them.   Activities  which  had  not  fully 
benefitted  from  direct  federal  appropriations  were  to  receive 


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The  resources  that  need  this  funding  are  fragile  and 
irreplaceable.   They  include,  among  other  things,  some  of  the 
most  significant  archaeological  sites  in  the  world.   To  cut 
funding  for  work  that  is  so  needed  for  the  protection  of  these 
sites  would  be  a  violation  of  the  public  trust  that  has  been 
placed  in  the  Park  Service  since  it  was  established  in  1916. 
Such  a  reduction  would  also  be  economically  unwise,  as  future 
costs  to  do  the  work  will  be  much  higher. 

We  hope  that  you  will  reject  the  Administration's  short- 
sighted approach  and  that  you  will  provide  sufficient  funding 
for  the  ONPS  to  reflect  both  Congressional  intent  and  to  meet  the 
real  resource  protection  needs  for  which  the  original  park  fee 
legislation  was  enacted. 

El  Malpais  National  Monument 

We  urge  you  to  increase  the  level  of  funding  for  the  El 
Malpais  National  Monument,  an  area  that  contains  outstanding  ar- 
chaeological resources  reflecting  much  of  the  long  and  intriguing 
cultural  history  of  the  Southwestern  United  States.   The  Ad- 
ministration requested  $100,000  for  park  operations  for  the 
monument.   The  Society  supports  increasing  this  to  $250,000. 

Associated  with  El  Malpais  is  the  Masau  Trail.   This  trail 
links  many  of  the  most  important  and  impressive  remains  of 
prehistoric  and  historic  sites  in  the  Southwest  including  Chaco 
Culture  Historic  Park,  Pecos  and  Aztec  National  Monuments  as  well 
as  El  Malpais.   $250,000  is  needed  to  develop  the  interpretive 
programs  for  this  trail.   In  addition,  nearby  Salinas  National 
Monument  is  an  outstanding  example  of  historic  pueblo  structures 
and  introduced  Spanish  conquest  structures.   Salinas  needs 
$500,000  for  ruin  stabilization  and  maintenance. 

Anti-looting 

As  you  know,   the  SAA  has  made  a  major  initiative  to  stop  the 
looting  and  vandalism  of  archaeological  and  cultural  resources 
throughout  the  nation.  In  this  light,  we  urge  you  to  recommend  an 
addition  of  not  less  than  $1  million  in  the  ONPS  budget  for  anti- 
looting  efforts  in  units  of  the  National  Park  System.   This  is 
the  same  as  was  earmarked  in  the  fiscal  1988  appropriations. 

Looting  of  archaeological  sites  is  a  national  problem,  one 
that  is  destroying  our  nation's  cultural  heritage.   This  outright 
criminal  action  is  increasing  by  all  accounts.   The  recent  GAO 
report,  "Cultural  Resources:  Problems  Protecting  and  Preserving 
Federal  Archeological  Resources"  (1987)  highlighted  the  serious- 
ness of  the  problem  and  recommended  increases  in  funding, 
training  and  law  enforcement.   We  must  all  recognize  the 
seriousness  of  this  problem.   If  something  is  not  done  soon  there 
will  be  no  intact  archaeological  sites  left  in  the  United  States. 
Archaeological  resources  are  like  endangered  species:  Once 
destroyed,  they  are  gone  forever. 


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Looting  threatens  national  park  resources  as  well  as  those 
in  national  forests  and  public  lands.  (Looting  also  destroys 
resources  on  private  lands,  and  thought  must  be  given  soon  on 
what  can  be  done  to  prevent  this  too.)   In  the  case  of  the  NPS 
and  other  Federal  agencies,  there  are  urgent  needs  for  stronger 
enforcement  of  the  Archaeological  Resources  Protection  Act 
(ARPA) ,  for  increased  staffing  and  funding  for  archaeological 
protection,  and  for  more  public  awareness  and  education. 

Curation 

Last  year  Congress  appropriated  $2.73  million  to  begin  a 
multi-year  project  for  the  cataloging  and  curation  of  the  vast 
NPS  collections.   Over  70%  of  these  collections  are  archaeologi- 
cal in  nature  and  require  special  care.   This  year,  the  Adminis- 
tration requested  no  funding  to  continue  this  program.   This  is  a 
massive  undertaking  and  requires  an  enormous  amount  of  work  if  it 
is  to  be  done  and  done  well.  We  urge  your  Committee  to  support 
sufficient  funding  within  the  ONPS  budget  to  provide  $2.8  million 
to  continue  this  important  program. 

National  Recreation  and  Preservation  Programs 

The  SAA  deplores  the  Administration's  attempt  to  cut  the 
funds  for  the  National  Register  Programs  from  the  $7.8  million 
appropriated  for  fiscal  1988  to  $7.3  million  for  fiscal  1989. 
We  urge  you  to  restore  the  funds  for  these  programs,  including 
funds  for  the  Historic  American  Buildings  Survey  (HABS)  and 
Historic  American  Engineering  Survey  (HAER) . 

Departmental  Consulting  Archeoloqist 

Included  in  the  National  Preservation  Programs  account  is  the 
Office  of  the  Departmental  Consulting  Archeologist  (DCA) .   The 
DCA  is  responsible  for  coordinating  the  overall  federal  arch- 
aeological program.   In  this  capacity  the  DCA  office  needs 
additional  funds  to  continue  its  efforts  in  anti-looting,  law 
enforcement,  employee  training,  and  information  clearing  houses. 
We  request  that  an  additional  $100,000  be  appropriated  and 
earmarked  specifically  for  the  DCA  office  for  these  activities, 
the  same  amount  that  you  added  for  fiscal  1988. 

Historic  Preservation  Fund 

The  SAA  supports  the  efforts  and  requested  amount  of  $150 
million  for  the  Historic  Preservation  Fund  made  by  the  National 
Conference  of  State  Historic  Preservation  Officers.  This  is  the 
sum  annually  authorized  by  the  National  Historic  Preservation 
Act.   Considering  the  preservation  needs  facing  the  United 
States  today,  it  is  a  reasonable  amount  to  request. 


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For  archaeology,  the  Historic  Preservation  Fund's  matching 
grants  to  the  States  serve  two  major  functions:  (1)  to  assist 
with  surveys,  investigations,  analyses  and  interpretation  of 
archaeological  sites  and  their  resources;  and  (2)  to  support 
state  activities  in  the  review  process  which  protects  sites  from 
federally  funded  undertakings  pursuant  to  Section  106  of  the 
National  Historic  Preservation  Act.   Among  other  things,  the 
State  share  of  the  Fund  is  also  used  to  nominate  archaeological 
sites  to  the  National  Register  of  Historic  Places. 

A  recent  "needs  assessment"  by  the  National  Conference  of 
SHPO's  shows  how  States  regard  archaeological  resources  as 
important  to  their  history.   Many  States  highlighted  archaeolog- 
ically  related  projects.   The  need  is  great.   Unlike  historic 
buildings  which  may  get  tax  credits  or  gain  economic  value  from 
private  investment,  archaeological  resources  do  not  benefit  from 
market-oriented  approaches.   Archaeology,  by  the  nature  of  its 
subject  matter,  depends  a  great  deal  on  government  support.   The 
State-funded  programs  are  essential  to  assuring  that  archaeologi- 
cal and  other  historic  preservation  activities  are  carried  out  as 
Congress  intended. 


Land  and  Water  Conservation  Fund 

The  Land  and  Water  Conservation  Fund  (LWCF)  provides  an 
important  tool  for  national,  state  and  local  land  acquisition, 
planning,  and  development  of  parks  and  recreational  areas.  The 
SAA  urges  your  Subcommittee  to  recommend,  as  you  have  in  the 
past,  substantial  increases  in  both  the  State  and  Federal  sides 
of  the  LWCF. 


State  and  Local  LWCF  Programs: 

Of  the  total  amount  we  are  requesting  for  the  LWCF,  an 
estimated  $200  million  is  needed  for  the  state  matching  grants. 
Many  archaeological  and  historical  resources  have  benefited  from 
the  State  side  of  the  LWCF,   Sites  ranging  from  Indian  burial 
grounds,  pre-Revolutionary  War  forts,  industrial  period  sites. 
Civilian  Conservation  Corps  buildings  and  others  have  been 
incorporated  into  parks  and  recreation  areas. 

The  State  side  of  the  LWCF  is  important  to  preserving  and 
protecting  both  natural  and  cultural  sites.    Studies  have  shown 
that  there  are  $340  million  in  grant  applications  currently 
pending  and  a  needs  estimate  for  the  next  three  years  of  $1.9 
billion.   Therefore,  $200  million  is  a  reasonable,  usable  amount. 

Federal  Side.  National  Park  Service: 

The  Federal  side  of  the  LWCF  has  also  benefited  archaeologi- 
cal and  historical  resources  through  the  acquisition  of  lands  and 
structures  in  new  and  expanded  units  of  the  National  Park  System. 


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The  Cuyahoga  Valley  National  Recreation  Area  in  Ohio,  for 
example,  contains  over  25%  of  the  archaeological  resources  in 
the  entire  midwest  region  of  the  National  Park  Service. 
Similarly,  significant  archaeological  sites  have  been  acquired  at 
other  new  areas,  including  the  Santa  Monica  Mountains  National 
Recreation  Area  in  California. 

In  the  Administration's  budget,  federal  funds  for  the  LWCF 
Fund  are  proposed  to  be  cut  drastically  below  the  needed  level. 
The  Society  supports  the  requests  made  by  the  National  Parks  and 
Conservation  Association  and  the  Wilderness  Society  for  $675 
million  for  the  Federal  side  of  the  Land  and  Water  Conservation 
Fund,  of  which  over  $190  million  would  be  earmarked  for  the  NPS 
acquisition  program.   Among  the  projects,  the  SAA  would  encourage 
the  earmarking  of  about  $5  million  for  the  acquisition  of 
inholdings  within  the  newly  authorized  El  Malpais  National 
Monument  in  New  Mexico. 


THE  FISH  AND  WILDLIFE  SERVICE 

The  SAA  requests  that  this  Committee  secure  add-on  funding 
for  the  Fish  and  Wildlife  Service  (FWS)  to  begin  an  agency-wide 
effort  to  document  and  protect  archaeological  resources.   The 
Society  recommends  that  $600,000  be  appropriated  for  use  by  the 
FWS  in  fiscal  1989  for  these  purposes.   This  funding  should  be 
placed  in  the  Refuge  Operations  Activity  section  and  should  be 
earmarked  for  necessary  work  that  is  not  funded  by  the  FWS  for 
compliance  with  section  106  of  the  National  Historic  Preservation 
Act  or  for  special  appropriated  projects  such  as  the  archaeologi- 
cal work  that  is  underway  at  Stillwater  National  Wildlife  Refuge 
in  Nevada. 

Refuge  Programs; 

FWS  has  jurisdiction  over  approximately  90  million  acres  of 
land,  constituting  one  of  the  largest,  protected  administrative 
systems  of  land  and  water  in  the  United  States.  .Many  of  these 
lands  have  been  acquired  or  designed  by  the  federal  government  in 
an  effort  to  protect  valuable  wildlife  habitat,  wetlands,  and 
other  resources  for  public  use  and  scientific  study.   In  addition 
to  protecting  our  wildlife,  however,  it  is  important  to  note  that 
this  system  contains  thousands  of  archaeological  sites  that 
provide  evidence  of  past  human  adaptation  to  the  natural 
environment.   Funding  for  completion  of  basic  surveys  and 
archaeological  resource  protection  work  for  compliance  with 
federal  historic  preservation  requirements  has  been  and  continues 
to  be  lacking. 

The  FWS  does  not  have  a  separate  fund  for  the  inventory  and 
protection  of  archaeological  and  historic  sites  on  its  lands. 
Archaeological  inventories  are  funded  largely  through  individual 
agency  undertakings  as  part  of  project  costs.   This  results  in  an 


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inefficient,  piece-meal  approach  to  managing  the  agency's 
archaeological  sites.  The  most  recent  statistics  compiled  by  the 
Secretary  of  the  Interior  through  the  end  of  fiscal  1986  indicate 
that  the  FWS  has  completed  inventories  on  less  than  1%  of  its 
lands,  a  smaller  percentage  than  other  land  managing  agencies. 

Without  sufficient  documentation,  it  is  difficult  to  reach 
an  accurate  assessment  of  the  condition  of  archaeological  sites 
managed  by  the  FWS .   As  your  Subcommittee  knows ,  recent  trends 
suggest  that  this  country's  archaeological  record  is  being 
destroyed  at  an  increasing  rate.   At  recent  hearings  conducted  in 
Colorado  by  the  House  of  Representative's  Committee  on  Interior 
and  Insular  Affairs,  the  Service  estimated  that  between  30%  to 
50%  of  its  archaeological  sites  located  in  the  southwestern 
United  States  had  been  partially  looted  or  destroyed.   The 
Society  for  American  Archaeology  feels  that  this  destruction  and 
deterioration  is  part  of  a  larger  national  trend  that  deserves 
the  immediate  attention  of  the  Congress  and  the  Service. 

Stillwater  National  Wildlife  Refuge; 

The  Stillwater  National  Wildlife  Refuge  is  in  need  of  an  add- 
on of  $250,000,  earmarked  specifically  to  continue  the  salvag'e 
archaeology  of  human  skeletons  begun  in  response  to  massive  and 
unexpected  erosion  in  1987.    The  human  skeletal  remains  have 
been  exposed  to  natural  elements,  as  well  as  looters  and  vandals, 
due  to  snow  melt  erosion.   Remains  of  over  120  individuals  have 
been  discovered.   These  must  be  professionally  excavated,  docu- 
mented and  studied  prior  to  reinterment. 


BUREAU  OF  LAND  MANAGEMENT 

The  Bureau  of  Land  Management  (BLM)  has  responsibility  for 
the  nation's  largest  collection  of  public  lands.   On  these  lands 
are  some  of  the  most  diverse  cultural  resources  in  the  country. 
The  SAA  opposes  the  Administration's  recommendation  to  reduce  the 
level  of  Cultural  Resource  Management  funding  by  $380,000  from 
fiscal  1988. 

Cultural  Resources  Management; 

The  SAA  strongly  supports  restoring  the  $380,000  and 
increasing  the  overall  Cultural  Resources  Management  funding  by 
at  least  $500,000.   Restoration  to  the  fiscal  1988  level  would 
enable  BUI  cultural  resource  staff  to  continue  base  inventory  and 
evaluation.   The  increase  of  $500,000  would  allow  BI21  the 
staffand  funds  they  need  to  meet  the  problems  documented  in  the 
GAO  report,  "Problems  Protecting  and  Preserving  Archeological 
Resources"  (1987) .  BLM  cannot  meet  the  challenges  without  add  on 
funds  earmarked  for  archaeological  site  protection,  stabiliza- 
tion, site  signing,  patrols  and  ranger  support. 


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Resource  Protection; 

In  addition,  the  SAA  strongly  supports  an  add  on  of  $900,000 
in  the  Resource  Protection  Division  for  law  enforcement  for 
investigation,  equipment,  informants,  cooperative  agreements, 
training,  surveillance  and  travel  related  to  enforcement  of  the 
Archaeological  Resources  Protection  Act  (ARPA)  and  other  federal 
statutes.    The  Administration  recommended  $3,530  million  for 
the  Resource  Protection  Division.   This  is  the  same  level  as  last 
year.   Resource  Protection  has  been  functioning  at  the  same  level 
of  funding  for  several  years,  yet  has  been  faced  with  increasing 
responsibilities  and  duties  without  additional  funding.   The 
Resource  Protection  division  is  responsible  for  investigation  and 
prosecution  of  all  federal  laws  including  ARPA.   In  1987,  the 
division  investigated  43  counts  under  Antiquities  Theft  and 
Destiinction.   It  is  estimated  that  they  will  address  59  by  the 
end  of  1988  and  66  in  1989. 


THE  OFFICE  OF  SURFACE  MINING 

Mr.  Chairman,  this  is  one  case  where  we  are  not  asking  for 
any  additional  funding.   We  urge  the  Committee  to  look  at  the  way 
the  Office  of  Surface  Mining  Reclamation  and  Enforcement  (OSM) 
manages  their  requirements  under  section  106  of  the  National 
Historic  Preservation  Act.   Currently,  the  SAA  has  joined,  in  an 
"amicus"  capacity,  litigation  brought  by  several  other  national 
organizations  including  the  National  Trust  for  Historic  Preserva- 
tion and  the  Society  of  Professional  Archaeologists  (SOPA) 
against  OSM.   The  suit  challenges  the  regulations  developed  by 
OSM  for  the  consideration  of  archaeological  resources  during 
surface  coal  mining  and  OSM's  overall  failure  to  comply  with 
federal  preservation  laws.   We  urge  you  to  look  into  this  manner, 
and  would  be  happy  to  supply  any  further  information  you  might 
need  on  it. 


THE  FOREST  SERVICE 
* 

The  Society  is  greatly  concerned  about  the  Administration's 
proposed  reduction  in  the  Recreation  Management  Program  line 
item  for  Cultural  Resource  Management.   The  Agency  identified  a 
need  for  $18.7  million  for  cultural  resource  projects.   The 
Administration  cut  that  to  $12.2  million.    This  is  below  the 
fiscal  1988  level. 


Cultural  Resources  Management.  Project  Related  Work 

The  Forest  Service  identified  a  minimum  of  $15  million  needed 
for  project-rrelated  work  including  timbers  sales,  road  construc- 
tion, land  exchanges,  and  watershed  projects  just  to  keep  in 
compliance  with  the  National  Historic  Preservation  Act.    The  SAA 
supports  this  amount. 


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Forest  Service  Special  Initiatives 

In  addition,  the  SAA  recommends  the  Subcommittee  provide  $3 
million  for  special  initiatives  in  program  management  activities 
including  survey  of  areas  of  high  cultural  resource  potential 
that  were  not  scheduled  for  development  (wilderness  areas,  etc.)? 
inspection  and  monitoring  of  important  properties  to  determine 
condition  and  need  for  protection,  interpretation  of  selected 
properties  for  the  education  and  benefit  of  the  visitors, 
stabilization  of  selected  properties  threatened  with  imminent 
collapse  or  deterioration,  development  of  management  systems  and 
databases  to  improve  control  of  property  records  and  collections, 
development  of  improved  management  techniques,  and  the  evaluation 
of  some  of  the  backlog  of  unevaluated  cultural  properties  (now 
exceeding  80,000  properties  Nationwide). 

Challenge  Agreements  and  Other  Innovative  Programs 

Challenge  Agreements  offer  an  innovative  approach  to  cultural 
resource  management.   The  SAA  urges  the  Subcommittee  to  ear  mark 
$500,000  in  Fiscal  1989  for  the  Forest  Service  to  pursue  these 
matching  grants.  The  Forest  Service  used  $500,000  in  Fiscal  1988 
and  the  result  is  over  $1  million  in  cultural  resource  work. 
Agreements  were  made  with  county  or  city  governments,  private 
corporations,  private  organization  including  the  Boy  Scouts  of 
America,  local  historic  preservation  organization  and  groups  with 
special  interest  in  particular  projects. 

The  use  of  volunteers  or  hosted  program  is  yet  another 
approach  to  getting  a  lot  for  a  little.   On  the  Superior  National 
Forest  in  Minnesota,  experts  estimate  that  for  approximately 
$5,000  last  year,  the  Forest  Service  received  over  $40,000  in 
work  equivalent.   This  is  a  1:8  ratio.   Most  of  the  participants 
in  the  Superior  project  are  volunteers  or  work  study  students 
from  the  University.  Many  other  forests  use  senior  citizens  for 
similar  projects. 

There  are  many  exciting  projects  which  could  be  accomplished 
for  a  small  federal  input.   For  example,  an  add-on  of  less  than 
$40,000  would  begin  a  Native  American  oral  history  program  to 
train  Native  American  students  to  collect  oral  histories  from 
tribal  elders  who  once  lived  on  what  is  Superior  and  Chippewa 
National  Forests.   The  advantage  of  this  type  of  program  is  that 
it  offers  training  opportunities  for  minorities,  enables  the 
Forest  Service  to  complete  required  work  including  revision  of 
Forest  plans  and  treaty  rights.   It  supplements  the  forest 
history  program  in  addition. 

Washington  Office  Staffing  Needs 

The  SAA  also  supports  the  request  for  $.2  million  for  the 
Washington  Office  to  increase  staff  by  two  full  time  cultural 
resource  persons  and  to  implement  new  cultural  resource  manage- 
ment initiatives. 

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It  is  vital  to  the  continued  protection  of  the  resources 
under  the  stewardship  of  the  Forest  Service  that  sufficient  staff 
be  available  in  the  Washington  Office  to  provide  the  needed 
coordination,  training  and  assistance  to  the  Forest  Service 
staff.   At  present  the  Washington  Office  has  a  Cultural  Resource 
Management  staff  of  one  person  to  provide  these  services  to  the 
entire  Forest  Service.  A  one  person  staff  is  seriously  limited  in 
the  number  of  new  initiatives  that  can  be  undertaken.    Increas- 
ing the  Washington  Office  by  two  full  time  staff  persons  will 
permit  the  expansion  of  the  program  into  areas  where  work  is 
urgently  needed.   This  is  key  to  the  success  of  most  of  the  other 
initiatives.   A  strong  Washington  Office  effort  is  necessary  to 
be  successful  in  addressing  these  issues. 

Specific  report  language 

In  addition  to  these  funds,  the  Society  requests  the 
Committee  include  specific  language  encouraging  the  Forest 
Service  to  take  a  proactive  approach  to  cultural  resource 
management  and  to  address  the  needs  of  non-project  related 
cultural  resource  protection  and  resource  enhancement. 


CONCLUSION 

The  Society  for  American  Archaeology  recognizes  that  there 
is  a  large  budget  deficit  and  that  under  current  deficit 
reduction  laws  additional  funding  for  Federal  programs  is 
difficult  to  achieve.   Budgets  should  be  balanced  in  such  a  way 
that  the  public's  interest  is  protected.   The  SAA  feels  strongly 
that  the  budget  should  not  be  "balanced"   to  the  detriment  of  our 
nation's  natural  and  cultural  resource  programs.    We  ask  the 
Committee  to  continue  to  show  concern  and  support  for  these  vital 
programs  by  supporting  our  requests. 


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SUMMARY  OF  AMOUNTS  REQUESTED 

NATIONAL  PARK  SERVICE 

Operation  of  the  National  Park  System  (ONPS) 

o   Base  Funding,  $52.2  million  to  restore  base  funding  which 
the  Administration  proposes  be  made  up  by  fees. 

o   El  Malpais,    $250,000  for  park  operations, 
$5  million  land  acquisition 
$250,000  for  interpretation  and  development 

of  the  Masau  Trail 
$500,000  for  stabilization  of  Salinas 
National  Monument 
o  Anti-looting,  $1  million 
o  Curation,     $2.8  million 

National  Recreation  and  Preservation  Programs 
o  National  Register  Programs 

$345,000  HABS/HAER 

$100,000  Dept  Consulting  Archaeologist 

Historic  Preservation  Fund 

$150  million  for  State  Historic  Preserva- 
tion programs  and  National  Trust  for 
Historic  Preservation 

Land  and  Water  Conservation  Fund 

$857  million,  with  $200  million  directed  to 
state  funding 

FISH  AND  WILDLIFE  SERVICE 

Refuges  and  Wildlife  Activity,  for  Refuge  Operations 
o  Base  inventory  $600,000 
o  Stillwater  National  Wildlife  Refuge  data  recovery  $250,000 

BUREAU  OF  LAND  MANAGEMENT 

Cultural  Resource  Management 

$380,000  restoration 

$500,000  add  on 
Resource  Protection   $900,000 

FOREST  SERVICE 

Recreation  Management  Program  -  Cultural  Resource  Management 
o  Cultural  Resource  Management 

$15  million 
o  Special  Initiatives 

$3  million 
o  Challenge  Agreements 

$.5  million 
o  Washington  Office  staffing  and  initiatives 

$.2  million 


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S.  1544,  THE  NATIONAL  TRAILS  SYSTEM  IMPROVEMENTS  ACT 
STATEMENT  BY  THE  NATIONAL  RECREATION  AND  PARK  ASSOCIATION 


MARCH  3,  1988 


The  National  Recreation  and  Park  Association  supports  the 
passage  of  S.  1544,  the  National  Trails  System  Improvements 
Act. 

NRPA  and  its  state  affiliates  are  composed  of 
approximately  45,000  individuals,  agencies,  and  organizations 
who  guide,  develop,  and  manage  recreation  and  park  services  and 
resources.   Many  of  our  members  are  state  and  local  park  and 
recreation  departments  who  are  often  instrumental  in  the 
conversion  of  rail-trails,  as  well  as  their  ongoing  management 
and  maintenance. 

As  far  back  as  1977,  NRPA  has  consistently  recognized  the 
value  of,  and  threats  to,  abandoned  rail  corridors.   In  a  1977 
NRPA  report  on  this  topic,  a  former  executive  director  wrote, 
"With  today's  skyrocketing  land  prices,  construction, 
maintenance,  and  operation  costs,  the  spider  web  network  of 
railroad  rights-of-way  is  being  compromised  as  they  are  sold 
for  housing,  developments,  agriculture,  or  other  non-linear 
uses.   Park,  recreation,  and  conservation  interests  [have  been] 
quick  to  recognize  the  open  space,  linear  recreation  use  of  the 
abandoned  rights-of-way."   NRPA  does  not  advocate  the 
abandonment  of  rail  services.   However,  when  and  where 
abandonment  is  considered  and  ultimately  occurs,  we  advocate 
full  consideration  for  recreation  and  conservation  goals.   S. 
1544  will  help  reduce  the  threat  of  piece-meal  loss  and 
preserve  more  railroad  rights-of-way  for  public  recreational 
purposes.  ^ 

Due  to  their  linear  nature,  railroad  rights-of-way  create 
excellent  recreational  corridors.   We  consider  such  corridors 
to  be  a  necessary  element  of  America's  natural  and  recreational 
resource  system.   They  provide  close  to  home  recreational 
opportunities;  they  connect,  and  consolidate  management  of, 
fragmented  public  lands;  and  they  provide  parks  with  buffers  to 
encroaching  development. 

We  support  this  legislation's  requirement  that  federally 
granted  railroad  rights-of-way  be  returned  to  the  federal 
government  upon  their  abandonment.   What  originally  belonged  to 
the  American  public  should  once  again  be  theirs  for  recreation 
use  and  enjoyment. 

We  also  consider  the  bill's  language  allowing  state  and 
local  governments  or  organizations  to  manage  rights-of-way  for 
public  recreational  purposes  to  be  a  significant  development  in 
federal/state/local  partnerships  in  conservation  and 
recreation.   With  today's  escalating  real  estate  values,  local 


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governments  and  organizations,  in  particular,  are  often  unable 
to  invest  large  sums  of  money  in  acquiring  railroad 
rights-of-way.   They  are  frequently  discouraged  by  the  costs  of 
recreation  development,  as  well  as  ongoing  maintenance  and 
management.   The  combination  can  be  insurmountable  to  even  a 
fiscally  strong  jurisdicition.   However,  with  an  opportunity 
for  a  transfer  of  the  right-of-way  by  the  federal  government, 
it  is  much  more  likely  that  local  government  would  be  willing 
to  absorb  other  costs. 

While  there  are  no  federally  granted  rights-of-way  east  of 
the  Mississippi,  there  do  exist  countless  potential  rail-trail 
conversions  that  are  owned  in  fee  simple  by  the  railroads.   ^s 
I  mentioned,  local  governments  and  organizations  often  find  it 
impossible  to  compete  with  developers  and  other  large 
for-profit  institutions  for  an  abandoned  right-of-way.   The 
Interstate  Commerce  Commission  has  compounded  this  problem  by 
providing  only  the  briefest  span  of  time  for  public  entities  to 
make  an  offer  on  an  abandonment  before  the  rail  carrier  can 
begin  selling  off  portions  of  the  right-of-way.   Once  a  single 
portion  of  a  right-of-way  has  been  sold,  its  linear 
recreational  value  is  seriously  impaired. 

Additional  legislation  may  be  necessary  to  clarify  the 
intent  of  Congress  on  the  ICC ' s  responsibilities  to  public 
entities.   Rail-trail  conversions  are  always  complicated  and 
stringent  ICC  regulations  have  made  them  even  more  so. 

NRPA  does  not  endorse  the  creation  of  a  separate  fund  to 
aid  general  trail  development  versus  some  other  type  of 
recreation  resource.   This  type  of  assistance  has  and  should 
continue  to  be  available  from  an  improved  Land  and  Water 
Conservation  Fund.   However,  we  do  support  a  revolving  loan 
fund  as  outlined  in  the  legislation  to  specifically  address 
state,  local,  and  private  non-profit  efforts  to  quickly  and 
effectively  participate  in  rail  conversion  projects.   Further, 
we  believe  that  no  less  than  75%  of  the  fund  should  be 
available  annually  to  non-federal  entities  for  rail-trail 
activities . 

We  also  suggest  that  the  subcommittee  consider  including  a 
loan  guarantee  provision  in  S.  1544.  A   guarantee  from  the 
Secretary  of  the  Interior  would  enable  state  and  local 
governments,  or  private  organizations  to  successfully  procure 
loans  for  rail-trail  projects  that  private  lending  institutions 
might  otherwise  consider  to  be  high  risks. 

Mr.  Chairman,  the  President's  Commission  on  Americans 
Outdoors  has  ignited  our  imaginations  with  its  vision  of 
greenways  that  would  provide  "Americans  with  access  to  open 
spaces  and  wildlands  for  the  widest  possible  variety  of  outdoor 
activities,  close  to  home."   Enactment  of  S.  1544  will  help 
turn  this  vision  into  a  reality  and,  at  the  same  time,  preserve 
America's  unique  network  of  rail  corrdiors  for  future 
generations. 


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For    the    Public    Lands,     national    Parks    and    Forests    Sub- 

Aiiied  Civic  Group  Committee    of   the    Senate    Energy    and     Natural     Resources 

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Subject:    S.     1514,     Trails    Systems    Improvement    Act 


Cabin  John  Citizens 
Association 

Town  of  Chevy  Chase 

Chevy  Chase  Hills  Citizens 
Association  , 

My    name    is     Anthony    F.     Czajkohski.        I    live    in 
Chevy  Chase  Valley  Citizens  bethesda,    Maryland.       I    am    writing    to    you    as    chair    of 

Associabon 

the    Greater    Be thesd a-Chev y    Chase    Coalition,    composed    of 
Citizen coordiiating  g    ^itizen    association    in    Montgomery    County    in    the 

Committee  of  Fnendship  "  o  j  j 

Heights  state    of    Maryland. 

Oxjuelin  Run  Citizens 

Association  My    coalitioh    supports    S.     i;>UU. 

East  Bethesda  Citizens 

Association  In    the    past    two    years   our    community   has    been    in- 

Eimoakt^dge-Lynn Citizens  volved     in    an    issue    closciy    associated     with    the     National 

Association  Trails    System    Act    of    1933.       In    April,     1986,    the    CSX 

Fnendship  Heights  Village  Corporation    applied    to    the    Interstate    Commerce    Commis- 

sion   to    abandon    the    Georgetown    Subdivision    of    the    b   i    C 
Hamlet  Citizens  Assoc^on  Railroad     Company.       This    is    a    branch    line    running    from 

Hamlet  House  Condominium         Silver    Spring,    Maryland,    through    lower    Montgomery    Coun- 
Hamiet  Place  Owners.  Inc.  ty    to    the    C   4    0    National     historical     Fark    and    then    uown- 

Kenwood  Citizens  Association        Stream    along    the    canal     to    Georgetown,    D.C.       At    the    time 
of    the    filing,    the    Real     Estate    Division    of    CSX    ap- 
praised   the    liquidation    value    ol    the    entire    line    at 
$19,531,000    ($6,t75,0O0    in    r.ontgomery    County    and 
$12,65  9,00  0    in    the     District    of    Columbia). 


Kenwood  Condominium 

Kenwood  Forest  Condominium 
Association  11 


Kenwood  House 


Riviera  Condominium 


Association 
Town  of  Somerset 


Village  of  Martins  Additions  Various    groups    indicated    interest    in    acquiring    the 

Park-Sutton condommium  right-of-way    after    abandonment.       The    National     Park    Ser- 

Association  vice,    Supported    by    numerous    civic,    environmental,    and 

Residents  against  Transitway        recreational    groups,    was    interested    in    converting    the 
right-of-way    into    a    hiker-biker    recreational    trail, 
Montgomery    County    proposed    a    light    rail    rapid    transit 
""I'!"!!'.'!"!.'^'"^"''  to    connect    the    two    Metrorail    stations    oetween    bethesda 

and    Silver    Spring.       To    establish    eligibility    under    the 
National    Trails    System    Act,    the    county    proposed    a 
Springfield  Civic  Association         hiker-biker    trail    alongside    ti\eir    proposed    light    rail 
Sumner  Citizens  Association         transit.       Cur    Coalitioh    has    Worked    to    convert    the 
westbard  Mews  Condominium      right-of-way    for    park    and    trail    use    exclusively. 

Westmoreland Cituens Association  Preliminary    negotiations    between     Montgomery    Count> 

WestwoodMews  ghd    CSX    indicated    a    CSX    asking    price    vastly    in    excess 

of    the     1986    appraisal.       The    Greater    Lethesd a-Cne v y 
Chase    Coalition    wrote    to    the    ICC    on    November    9,     19(i7, 
requesting    that    its    decision    on    abandonment    instruct 
CSX    to    dispose    of    the    right-of-way    for    public    use    only. 
We    also    requested     that    the     ICC    set    reaSonaDle    terms    for 


United  To  Conserve  The  B  &0  Right-of-Way  As  Green  Space 


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Greater  Bethesda-Che v y  Chase  Coalition 


the  sale.   We  noted,  findlly,  that  the  use  of  the  hOW  for  iiicSS 
transit  was  inconsistent  with  the  National  Trails  tystem  Act, 
even  with  an  adjoining  hiker-biker  trail. 

The  exorbitant  purchase  price  askeu  by  CSX  is  i  ii  f  1  uenc  ina 
public  policy  in  the  county.   Advocates  of  mass  transit  say  tnat 
only  transit  could  justify  the  enormous  expenditures  for  land  ac- 
quisition.  The  State  of  Maryland  Department  of  Transportation 
recently  offered  $13  million  to  acquire  the  right-of-way.   If 
this  occurs,  the  possibility  of  an  exclusive  park  and  trail  use 
would  be  eliminated. 

The  acquisition  of  the  greenway  as  a  park  would  be,  as  V.il- 
liaa  Penn  Kott,  Jr.,  Director  of  the  National  fark  Service,  stat- 
ed, "a  once- in-a-lif etime  opportunity."  It  would  tatablish  a  kO 
mile  linear  park  from  Georgetown  to  Pock  Creek  Park,  in  an  area 
desperately  in  need  of  more  greenspace.   This  is  exactly  the  sort 
of  recreational  area  envisioned  last  year  by  the  President's  Cora- 
mission  on  the  Outdoors.   Lower  Montgomery  County  which  has  IjJ 
of  the  county  population,  has  only  54  of  the  county  p^rKland. 

S.  15')'4,  by  niaking  federal  loans  available  from  a  revolving 
fund,  could  assist  in  the  conversion  of  this  valuable  land  to 
trail  use  . 

Based  on  our  two  year  experience,  the  Greater  be  the  sd  a-Ciie  v  y 
Chase  Coalition  recommends  that  you  go  one  step  further  in  I, 
1511.   We  believe  that  public  or  private  groups  seeking  to  con- 
vert an  abandoned  rail  line  to  recreational  trails  should  be 
treated  in  the  same  way  that  the  ICC  treats  a  private  buyer  wish- 
ing to  continue  the  right  of  way  for  transportation  use.  private 
buyers  under  U.S.C.  10905  can  have  the  ICC  establish  ail  disputed 
conditions  of  sale  and  can  have  the  ICC  set  a  price  at  the  ap- 
praised value.   Conversion  for  trail  use  should  have  the  same  op- 
tion. 


Financial  loans  from  a  revolving  fund  will  enable  public  bo- 
dies to  accommodate  purchases  within  normal  budget  cycles.   Pro- 
vision for  sale  at  a  reasonable  price  will  assist  in  conserving 
green  space  and  in  protecting  taxpayers  from  paying  exorbitant 
purchase  prices  for  the  enjoyment  ol  simple  recreation. 


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WcishinfJton,  DC  20408 


7  'QT 


Honorable  Dale  Bumpers 

Chairman,  Subcommittee  on  Public  Lands, 

National  Parks  and  Forests 
Committee  on  Eneryy  ana  Natural  Resources 
United  States  Senate 
Washington,  DC   20510 

Dear  Senator  Bumpers: 

we  greatly  appreciate  the  opportunity  to  submit  a  statement 
for  the  official  record  that  explains  the  National  Archives' 
concerns  about  issues  raised  during  hearings  held  on 
March  3,  1988,  by  your  subcommittee  on  H.R.  2652.   The 
primary  purpose  of  H.R.  2652  is  to  revise  the  boundaries  of 
the  Salem  Maritime  National  Historical  Site  in  the 
Commonwealth  of  Massachusetts  to  obtain  St.  Joseph's  Polish 
Roman  Catholic  Society  building  to  be  used  by  the  Park 
Service  in  connection  v/ith  the  Site.   The  National  Archives 
nas  no  objection  to  the  expansion  of  the  Salem  Historical 
Site.   We  have  a  natural  affinity  for  the  marvelous 
historical  programs  run  by  the  Park  Service  and  we  count 
ourselves  as  one  of  their  many  supporters.   However,  during 
testimony  at  hearings  held  last  September  in  the  House  of 
Representatives  before  the  Subcommittee  on  National  Parks 
and  Public  Lands  and  echoed  in  Senator  John  Kerry's 
statement  introduced  for  the  record  at  the  hearing  held  by 
your  subcommittee  on  March  3,  1988,  issues  were  raised 
concerning  the  anticipated  use  of  the  St.  Joseph's  Society 
building  which  concern  us  greatly. 

In  the  hearings  held  in  both  thd  House  of  Representatives 
and  the  U.S.  Senate  on  H.R.  2652,  the  St.  Josepn's  Society 
building  was  described  by  witnesses  as  the  place  that  would 
be  used  by  the  Park  Service  to  store  and  display  records 
from  the  U.S.  Customs  Service  dating  back  to  the  early 
1800's.   According  to  testimony,  the  records  were  to  include 
not  only  those  reflecting  activities  at  the  Salem 
Customhouse,  but  also  records  from  five  northern 
Massachusetts  ports.   These  records  are  currently  stored  at 
the  Essex  Institute,  a  private  institution  in  Salem, 
Massachusetts.   The  National  Archives  has  been  making 
preparations  to  take  these  Federal  records  into  our  custody 
and  to  make  them  available  for  research  at  our  Boston 
Archives  Branch.   We  very  much  oppose  a  proposal  that  would 
transfer  these  Customs  Service  records  to  the  ParK  Service's 
custody  at  the  Salem  Historical  Site. 


National  Archives  and  Records  Administration 


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I  believe  that  some  historical  background  detailing  how 
these  records  came  to  be  located  in  the  Essex  Institute  may 
be  helpful  in  clarifying  some  of  our  concerns.   In  1922, 
Senator  Henry  Cabot  Lodge  of  Massachusetts  suggested  that 
Federal  records  of  five  Massachusetts  customhouses  (Salem, 
Beverly,  Gloucester,  Newburyport,  Ipswich,  and  Marblehead) 
be  transferred  from  the  Treasury  Department  to  the  Essex 
Institute  in  Salem,  Massachusetts.   The  recommendation  for 
transfer  was  repeated  in  1931.   In  both  1922  and  1931,  the 
recommendation  was  referred  to  the  Librarian  of  Congress 
who  was  authorized  under  Executive  Order  1499  to  provide 
executive  departments  with  the  "benefit  of  his  views  as  to 
the  wisdom  of  preserving  such  of  the  papers  as  he  may  deem 
to  be  of  historical  interest."   The  Librarian  of  Congress 
approved  the  proposal  in  1922  and  1931  on  two  conditions: 
(1)  that  the  Government  retain  ownership  or  title  to  the 
records;  and  (2)  that  the  Essex  Institute  should  return  the 
records  when  a  "Hall  of  Archives"  was  prepared  to  receive 
them.   In  1931,  3  years  before  the  establishment  of  the 
National  Archives,  the  Department  of  the  Treasury  finally 
agreed  to  the  proposal  and  transferred  the  customhouse 
records  to  the  Essex  Institute  under  the  conditions 
specified  by  the  Librarian  of  Congress.   It  is  clear, 
therefore,  that  the  Treasury  Department  did  not  relinquish 
title  to  the  records  and  that  depositing  the  records  at  the 
Essex  Institute  was  intended  as  a  temporary  measure  and 
anticipated  that  the  eventual  permanent  repository  would  be 
the  National  Archives. 

In  1936,  Congress  enacted  Public  Law  No.  620  which 
authorized  transfer  of  the  Salem  customhouse  property  from 
the  Department  of  the  Treasury  to  the  Department  of  the 
Interior  as  an  historic  site.   This  statute,  and  the 
legislative  history,  indicate  an  intent  to  preserve  the 
building  and  grounds  as  an  historic  landmark.   Both  the 
House  and  Senate  reports  include  a  description  of  the  site 
as  well  as  the  proposed  plans  for  the  facility.   Nowhere  in 
the  legislative  history  is  there  any  indication  of  an  intent 
for  the  Customs  Service  to  relinquish  any  records  to  the 
Department  of  the  Interior.   On  the  contrary,  the  statute 
expressly  provides  that  the  Customs  Service  was  to  continue 
operations  on  the  site.   Moreover,  the  records  at  issue  were 
no  longer  in  the  custody  of  the  Customs  Service  in  1936 
since  these  historical  records  had  been  transferred  to  the 
Essex  Institute  5  years  previously.   Therefore,  we  conclude 
that  the  statute  which  created  the  Salem  historical  site  did 
not  include  the  transfer  of  any  customhouse  records  to  the 
Department  of  the  Interior.   Indeed  the  customhouse  records 
have  remained  in  the  physical  custody  of  the  Essex  Institute 
since  1931  under  the  conditions  originally  specified  by  the 
Librarian  of  Congress. 


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In  February  1986,  the  Branch  Chief  of  the  National  Archives' 
Boston  Branch  visited  the  Essex  Institute  to  examine  the 
customhouse  records  and  determine  how  the  records  were  being 
stored  and  preserved.   Based  on  this  inspection  and  reports 
from  others,  it  appeared  that  the  condition  of  many  of  the 
records  was  deteriorating.   Because  of  our  concern  for  the 
records,  the  National  Archives  determined  that  the  records 
should  be  moved  from  the  Essex  Institute  to  our  Boston 
Branch  where  appropriate  conservation  measures  could  be 
initiated.   Archival  staff  were  also  anxious  to  begin 
preparing  inventories  and  finding  aids  to  make  the  records 
more  accessible  to  the  public.   Transferring  these  records 
to  the  National  Archives'  custody  would  help  complete  the 
historical  documentation  of  New  England's  maritime  commerce 
since  the  Archives  already  holds  the  records  of  23  other  New 
England  customs  districts,  including  some  records  from  the 
Salem,  Gloucester,  and  Marblehead  customhouses. 
Additionally,  because  of  litigation  arising  from  Customs 
Service  activities.  Federal  District  court  records  in  the 
National  Archives'  custody  complement  the  customhouse 
records  stored  at  the  Essex  Institute.   Consolidation  of  all 
of  this  documentation  at  the  National  Archives'  Boston 
Branch  would  enhance  the  research  value  of  all  of  the  parts 
and  thus  promote  knowledge  of  New  England's  rich  maritime 
history. 

With  these  goals  in  mind,  the  Archivist  of  the  United  States 
in  June  1986  disapproved  a  request  from  the  Park  Service 
that  the  records  stored  at  the  Essex  Institute  be 
transferred  to  the  official  custody  of  the  Park  Service. 
The  Archivist  instead  asked  for  the  Park  Service's  support 
in  transferring  the  records  to  the  National  Archives. 
Failing  any  response  to  that  proposal,  the  National  Archives 
in  June  1987  met  with  officials  of  the  Customs  Service  and 
in  November  of  that  year  officials  of  both  agencies  signed 
legal  transfer  documents  (SF  258)  which  transferred  legal 
title  to  the  records  from  the  Customs  Service  to  the 
National  Archives. 

Transferring  title  to  the  customho\ase  records  to  the 
National  Archives  does  not  mean  that  the  Park  Service  may 
not  have  any  future  use  of  these  records.   On  the  contrary 
once  the  records  are  physically  transferred  to  our  custody 
we  can  begin  to  preserve  the  records  and  ensure  their 
continued  existence  so  that  they  will  be  there  when  the  Park 
Service  and  the  American  public  want  to  use  them.   We  are 
anxious  to  meet  the  Park  Service's  needs  at  the  Salem 
historical  site.   The  National  Archives  can  provide 
microfilm  copies  of  the  customhouse  records,   loan 
significant  customhouse  records  for  exhibit  at  the  site,  or 


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provide  facsimilies  of  records  for  exhibit.   We  want  very 
much  to  accommodate  the  Park  Service's  legitimate  needs 
while  at  the  same  time  ensuring  that  the  original  records 
are  preserved  for  posterity  as  was  intended  by  Congress  when 
they  established  the  National  Archives  in  1934. 

We  think  it  is  vitally  important  to  recall  just  what  role  in 
the  Government's  recordkeeping  process  the  Congress  intended 
the  National  Archives  to  fulfill.   The  legislation  that 
established  the  National  Archives  in  1934  was  the  result  of 
a  long  campaign  led  by  historians,  social  scientists, 
journalists,  and  other  observers  of  the  national  scene  who 
were  seriously  concerned  about  the  deteriorating  condition 
and  often  the  irretrievable  loss  of  many  of  the  historical 
records  documenting  our  national  life  and  culture.   The 
United  States  was,  in  fact,  the  last  of  the  great  industrial 
nations  of  the  world  to  establish  a  national  archival 
institution  to  ensure  the  preservation  of  the  nation's 
historical  records.   The  legislative  foundation  established 
by  the  Congress  for  the  National  Archives  is  based  firmly 
upon  the  idea  that  there  needs  to  be  a  single,  central 
archival  system  to  ensure  that  historically  valuable  records 
are  identified,  properly  stored  and  cared  for,  described  in 
a  manner  aimed  at  promoting  their  use,  and  freely  made 
available  to  all  those  who  wish  to  study  and  write  about  our 
history.   Without  a  central  archival  system  some  or  all  of 
these  essential  tasks  fail  to  be  carried  out  or  are  given 
short  shrift.   Such  was  the  pattern  of  archival  failure  in 
the  United  States  prior  to  1934.   Even  today  there  exist 
some  State  and  local  jurisdictions  in  which  responsiblity 
for  archival  records  has  been  left  to  operating,  program- 
oriented  governmnent  agencies  whose  failure  to  adequately 
care  for  those  archival  records  continues  to  illustrate  the 
necessity  for  a  single  agency  specifically  charged  with 
responsibility  for  the  preservation  of  all  historically 
valuable  records. 

A  central  archival  system  does  not  rule  out  or  even  diminish 
the  opportunity  for  other  agencies  engaged  in  historical, 
museum,  or  educational  programs  (such  as  the  Park  Service) 
to  use  the  records  maintained  by  the  central  respository  to 
support  and  enrich  their  own  programs.  Facsimiles  or,  under 
appropriate  conditions,  original  records  can  be  loaned  for 
exhibit  purposes.   Microfilm  copies  of  records  and 
publications  based  on  the  records  can  be  made  available  upon 
request.  However,  only  with  the  continued  assurance  that  all 
records  determined  to  be  permanently  valuable  will  be 
available  from  the  National  Archives  can  competing  uses  of 
the  records  be  balanced.   While  we  are  strongly  supportive 
of  the  National  Park  Service's  mandate  to  preserve  and 
explain  to  the  public  the  significance  of  historical  sites, 
we  adamantly  believe  that  the  Service's  needs  can  be 


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accommodated  without  jeopardizing  the  system  that  ensures 
the  continued  existence  of  Federal  records  for  use  by 
private  historians  and  researchers,  other  Government 
institutions,  or  any  citizen  who  wishes  to  discover  more 
about  the  operations  of  the  United  States  Government. 

If  the  Congress  were  to  agree  to  the  transfer  of  the 
customhouse  records  sought  by  the  Park  Service  for  the  Salem 
historical  site,  a  precedent  could  be  established  which  if 
followed  by  the  Park  Service  for  other  historical  sites  and 
by  other  agencies  for  their  own  or  related  records  could 
ultimately  eviscerate  this  nation's  archival  program.   We 
ask,  therefore,  that  the  Congress  seriously  consider  whether 
the  Park  Service's  desire  to  have  custody  of  the  Salem 
customhouse  records  is  sufficient  cause  to  endanger  this 
country's  hard-won  central  archival  system.   We  believe  it 
is  not. 

Thank  you  for  allowing  us  to  express  the  views  of  the 
National  Archives  and  to  have  those  views  included  in  the 
official  Congressional  record  concerning  the  Park  Service's 
Salem  historical  site.   If  any  further  hearings  are  held,  we 
would  welcome  the  opportunity  to  appear  in  person  to  present 
our  position. 

Sincerely, 


DON  W.  WILSON 

Archivist  of  the  United  States 


Enclosures 


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^^^^    United  States  Department  of  the  Interior  * 

\\agyy  NATIONAL  PARK  SERVICE 

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WASHINGTON.  DC  200137127 
IN  ■iriY  niria  to: 

H30(418) 

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Mr.  Wllllaa  von  Raab 
Cooalasloner  of  Customs 
rj.S.  Customs  Service 
1301  Constitution  Avenue,  NW 
Washington,  DC  20229 

Dear  Mr.  Rasb: 

Since  1938  the  Nstlonsl  Park  Service  has  administered  Salem  Maritime  National 
Historic  Site,  nine  acres  containing  historic  wharves,  residences,  and  govern- 
ment buildings  In  Salem,  Massachusetts.  A  prominent  feature  of  this  site 
Is  Salem's  1819  Custom  House. 

When  the  Custom  House  was  Cransf erred  to  the  National  Park  Service,  a 
historically  valuable  collection  of  customs  records  accompanied  It.  These 
records  remain  at  the  site  and  at  the  Essex  Institute  In  Salem,  which  holds 
other  customs  records  reflecting  Salem's  leading  role  In  maritime  co^erce. 
Because  the  records  are  In  a  poor  state  of  organization  and  preservation,  we 
and  the  Essex  Institute  are  working  to  obtain  financial  support  for  their 
professional  care.  To  accomplish  this,  the  question  of  ownership  must  first 
be  resolved:  there  is  no  evidence  that  the  Customs  Service  ever  formally 
transferred  custody  of  its  records  when  it  relinquished  them  physically. 

We  would  appreciate  receiving  a  statement  from  the  Customs  Service  giving  the 
National  Park  Service  official  custody  of  the  historic  records  from  the  U.S. 
Custom  House  at  Salem. 

If  further  Information  is  needed,  please  write  Superintendent  Cynthia  Pollack 
at  the  address  below  or  telephone  (617)744-4323. 


Sincerely, 


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TBK  coypggaioxEi*  of  ciraxoMS 

March   20,    ig'^e 


wAaai^fOTON.  D.c. 


Dear  Mr.  Al 

On  January  22,  1986,  you  wrote  to  my  office  requesting  a 
statement  from  the  Customs  Service  giving  the  National  Park 
Service  official  custody  of  the  historic  records  from  the  U.S. 
Customhouse  at  Salem.   I  did  not  answer  immediately  because  I 
wanted  to  have  a  representative  from  our  office  meet  with  your 
people  at  Salem  regarding  this  matter. 

This  meeting  took  place  on  February  18,  1986  in  Salem, 
Massachusetts.   It  is  our  understanding  that: 


a.  There  are  500  line 

b.  These  documents  ar 
Institute  in  Salem 

c.  The  National  Park 
inventory,  prepare 
by  scholars  and  re 

d.  The  collection  wou 
Officials  at  any  t 
to  the  Commissione 

e.  The  collection,  du 
remain  physically 
material  is  availa 

f.  When  the  Salem  Mar 
Salem  Customhouse 
then  housed  there. 


ar  feet  of  documents; 

e  now  physically  housed  at  the  Essex 

Service  will  provide  the  resources  to 
and  preserve  these  documents  for  use 
searchers ; 

Id  be  available  to  Customs  Service 
ime  and  items  will  be  made  available 
r  of  Customs  upon  request; 
ring  and  after  the  inventory,  will 
at  the  Essex  Institute  so  that  the 
ble  now  for  research;  and, 
itime  Museu^n  in  the  reconstructed 
is  completed  the  collection  will  be 
space  permitting. 


Based  on  the  above  facts,  I  agree  that  the  collection  should 
be  transferred  to  the  custody  of  the  National  Park  Service, 
pending  the  subsequent  approval  by  the  National  Archives,  which 
has  legal  responsibility  for  all  Federal  records  per  regulations 
issued  under  44  U.S.C.  2908.   Under  these  regulations,  your 
Agency  will  have  to  get  formal  approval  from  the  National 
Archives  for  Customs  to  officially  transfer  the  collection  to 
your  caretaker  ship. 

I  was  pleased  to  hear  that  the  restoration  of  the  historic 

Customhouse  will  be  completed  by  mid-year  1988  and  look  forward 
to  visiting  the  historic  Customhouse.   It  is  most  appropriate 
that  these  matters,  which  I  understand  have  not  been  fully 
resolved  since  1922,  be  settled  so  that  our  Bicentennial  in  1989 
can  be  celebrated  for  the  event  it  is. 


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I  appreciate  the  opportunity  to  have  reviewed  this  matter 
and  the  •fforts  which  your  Agency  have  expended.   The  restoration 
of  tbft  MiOT  Customhouse  as  a  National  Historic  site  is  a  fitting 
tribut*  t)0  the  men  and  women  who  have  served  the  Government  since 
1789. 

Please  keep  me  informed  of  the  decision  by  the  National 
Archives.   If  I  can  be  of  any  further  service,  I  am  always 
available  for  matters  that  affect  Customs  history. 

Yours  faithfully, 


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United  States  Department  of  the  Interior 

NATIONAL  PARK  SERVICE  Nat.onal'^Park  Serv.ce 

P.O.BOX   37127  Reminds  Yqa 

WASHINGTON.  DC.   20013-7127 


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APR    81986 

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Mr.   Frank  Burke  ,^^  ^^^  

Acting  Archivist  of   the  United  States  t»^e  pride  n 'meRiCa 

National  Archives  and 

Records  Administration 
Washington,   DC     20408 

Dear  Mr.  Burke: 

Since  1938  the  National  Park  Service  has  administered  Salen  Maritime  National 
Historic  Site,  nine  acres  containing  historic  wharves,  residences,  and  govern- 
ment buildings  in  Salem,  Massachusetts.  A  prcminent  feature  of  this  site  is 
Salem's  1819  Custon  House. 

When  we  acquired  the  Custon  House,  a  historically  valuable  collection  of  custons 
records  acccmpanied  it.  Other  early  customs  records  pertaining  to  Salem  remained 
with  the  U.S.  Xistons  Service.  These  records,  occupying  500  linear  feet,  are 
housed  at  the  Essex  institute  in  Salem,  where  some  of  the  records  obtained  by 
the  Park  Service  are  also  kept.  Because  the  records  are  in  a  poor  state  of 
organization  and  preservation,  we  and  the  Elssex  Institute  are  working  to  obtain 
financial  support  for  their  professional  care.  This  can  better  be  obtained  if 
the  records  are  all  placed  under  our  official  custody.  The  enclosed  letter 
fron  Comissioner  of  Custons  William  von  Raab  indicates  his  willingness  to 
transfer  the  Customs  Service  records  to  the  Park  Service. 

We  now  request  National  Archives  approval  for  the  transfer.  If  further 
infomiation  is  needed,  please  contact  Superintendent  Cynthia  Pollack  of  Salem 
Maritixne  National  Historic  Site,  174  Derby  Street,  Salem,  Massachusetts  01970; 
telephone  (617)744-4323.  ♦ 

Sincerely, 


Mon.  Jr. 

Director 
Enclosure 


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Mr.  William  Penn  Mott,  Jr. 

Director 

National  Park  Service 

PO  Box  37127 

Washington,  DC   20013-7127 

Dear  Mr.  Mott: 

We  were  most  interested  in  your  letter  of  April  8,  1986, 
requesting  approval  to  transfer  to  the  National  Park 
Service  records  of  customs  houses  currently  housed  at  th«r 
Essex  Institute  in  Salem,  Massachusetts.   For  the  reasons 
given  below,  the  National  Archives  cannot  approve  your 
request,  but  instead  suggests  transfer  of  the  records  to  thm 
National  Archives . 

The  bulk  of  the  records  of  the  Salem,  Gloucester,  Newburyport 
and  Marblehead  cust~ms  houses  in  Essex  County  were  deposited 
with  the  Essex  Inst.tute  in  1931  and  1932.  The  arrangement 
for  their  storage  called  for  their  transfer  to  the  National 
Archives  when  the  construction  of  that  building  was  complet- 
ed.  It  would  be  most  appropriate  for  these  records  to  be 
united  with  related  records  of  Massachusetts  customs  houses 
that  are  part  of  the  Archives  of  the  United  States. 

Your  letter  states  that  the  records  "are  in  a  poor  state  of 
organization  and  preservation.*  The  National  Archives  has 
both  the  professional  staff  and  conservation  facilities  to 
ensure  that  the  records  are  appropriately  arranged  and  pre- 
served.  We  also  have  the  legal  responsibility  and  personal 
commitment  for  ensuring  that  historical  Federal  records,  one 
of  oor  os^on'ft  primary  cultural  resources,  will  be  available 
for  uM  of  futur*  generations  of  Americans. 

We  ayr«tt  tlMt  tb«s«  customs  records  are  primarily  of  regional 
interest.   If  they  were  transferred  to  our  custody,  they 
would  be  maintained  at  the  National  Archives-Boston  Branch. 
This  would  facilitate  their  use  by  the  public  and  by  Federal 
agencies  such  as  the  National  Park  Service  and  the  Customs 
Service.   In  addition,  after  processing  the  files,  we  would 
be  willing  to  loan  specific  documents  under  appropriate  terms 
of  agreement. 

We  would  appreciate  your  support  in  transferring  the  customs 
records  at  the  Essex  Institute  to  the  National  Archives.  If 
you  or  your  staff  have  any  questions  about  the  matter,  please 


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coidM^  iMitfOt  IT,   Rossoan,   Director,   Records  Appraisal  and 
DigpOKtttn  •Ivlilon,    on  724-1457. 

Sincerely, 

FRANK  G.  B'J^-'l 

FRANK  G.  BURKE 

Acting  Archivist 

of  the  United  States 


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MAY  i  1 1987- 

Mr.  William  Penn  Mott,  Jr. 
Director,  National  Park  Service 
P.O.  Box  37127 
Washington,  DC  20013-7127 

Dear  Mr.  Mott: 

A  year  ago  the  National  Park  Service  asked  the  National  Archives 
and  Records  Administration  to  approve  the  transfer  to  NPS  of 
legal  custody  of  customs  records  housed  at  the  Essex  Institute 
at  Salem,  Massachusetts.   Since  we  cannot  approve  your  request, 
I  asked  instead  for  your  agency's  support  in  transferring  these 
customs  records  to  the  National  Archives. 

The  National  Archives  is,  by  law,  the  official  repository  for 
the  archivally  valuable  records  of  the  Federal  government.   I 
would  appreciate,  therefore,  your  letting  me  know  as  soon  as 
possible  when  these  archivally  valuable  records  will  be 
transferred  into  the  custody  of  the  National  Archives  -  Boston 
Branch. 

Sincerely, 

FRANK  G.  BURKE 

Acting  Archivist 

of  the  United  States 


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Mr.  William  von  Raab 
Commissioner  of  Customs 
U.S.  Customs  Service 
1301  Constitution  Ave.^NW 
Washington,  DC  20229 

Dear  Mr.  von  Raab: 

As  you  may  recall,  the  National  Park  Service  (NPS)  in  1986  asked 
the  National  Archives  and  Records  Administration  (NARA)  to 
authorize  transfer  to  NPS  custody  of  Bureau  of  Customs  records 
housed  at  the  Essex  Institute  in  Salem,  Massachusetts.   Va  were 
unable  to  approve  this  request,  believing  it  more  appropriate 
for  these  Federal  records  to  be  united  with  related  records 'of 
Massachusetts  custom#houses  that  are  part  of  the  National  ; 
Archives  of  the  United  States .   Enclosed  for  your  information  |a- 
a  copy  of  our  letter  advising  NPS  of  this  decision.      •    ". 


The  Salem,  Gloucester,  Newburyport,  and  Marblehead  custou^hquve 
records  were  deposited  with  the  Essex  Institute  in  1931  and  T933- 
before  the  establishment  of  the  National  Archives.   The  arrange- 
ment for  their  storage  with  the  Institute  called  for  their 
transfer  to  the  National  Archives  whenever  "the  Government  may 
desire  to  remove  all  or  any  portions  of  them  to  its  own 
archives."   We  believe  that  these  customs  records  should  now  be 
transferred  into  the  custody  of  the  National  Archives  -  Boston 
Branch.   Transfer  of  the  records  at  this  time  is  vital  because 
It  will  enable  us  to  take  steps  to  conserve  the  records,  which 
we  understand  to  be  in  a  poor  state  of  organization  and 
preservation. 

I  have  written  the  Director  of  the  National  Park  Service  to 
request  his  cooperation  in  the  transfer  of  the  records  (copy 
enclosed) .   We  would  like  to  meet  with  the  appropriate  officials 
at  tha  CuatOBB  Setvice  to  discuss  the  return  of  these  records. 
Please  hava  soaeone  on  your  staff  contact  Kenneth  F.  Rossman, 
Director,.  IbeAords  Appraisal  and  Disposition  Division,  on  724- 
1457- to ^Bt  ^fr  such  a  meeting.   Thank  you  for  your  cooperation 
in  this  matter. 

Sincerely, 

FRANK  G.  BURKE 

Acting  Archivist 

of  the  United  States 

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