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COMMITTEE ON UN-AMERICAN ACTIVITIES 
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NINETIETH CONGRESS 



FIRST SESSION 



AUGUST 10, 1967 
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COMMITTEE ON UN-AMERICAN ACTIVITIES 

United States House of Representatives 

EDWIN E. WILLIS, Louisiana, Chairman 
WILLIAM M. TUCK, Virginia JOHN M. ASHBROOK, Ohio 

JOE R. POOL, Texas DEL CLAWSON, California 

RICHARD H. ICHORD, Missouri RICHARD-L. R0UDEBU8H, Indiana 

JOHN C. CULVER, Iowa ALBERT WATSON, South Carolina 

FHANoa J. McNamara, Directo. 

Chester D. Smith, General Coumel 

Alfred M. Nittle, Counsel 

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CONTENTS 



August 10, 1967: Testimony of— Paee 

Rev. Richard Wurmbrand 516 

Index i 

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The House Committee on Un-American Activities is a standing 
committee of the House of Representatives, constituted as such by the 
rules of the House, adopted pursuant to Article I, section 5, of the Con- 
stitution of the United States which authorizes the House to determine 
the rules of its proceedings. 

RULES ADOPTED BY THE 90TH CONGRESS 

House Resolution 7, January 10, 1967 

RESOLUTION 

Resolved, That the Rules of the House of Representatives of the Eighty-ninth 
Congress, together with all applicable provisions of the Legislative Reorganization 
Act of 1946, as amended, be, and they are hereby, adopted as the Rules of the 
House of Representatives of the Ninetieth Congress * * * 

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Rule X 

STANDING COMMITTEES 

1. There shall be elected by the House, at the commencement of each Congress 

(r) Committee on Un-American Activities, to consist of nine Members. 
******* 

Rule XI 

POWERS AND DUTIES OF COMMITTEES 

******* 

18. Committee on Un-American Activities. 

(a) Un-American activities. 

(b) The Committee on Un-American Activities, as a whole or by subcommittee, 
is authorized to make from time to time investigations of (1) the extent, charac- 
ter, and objects of un-American propaganda activities in the United States, (2) 
the diffusion within the United States of subversive and un-American propaganda 
that is instigated from foreign countries or of a domestic origin and attacks the 
principle of the form of government as guaranteed by our Constitution, and (3) 
all other questions in relation thereto that would aid Congress in any necessary 
remedial legislation. 

The Committee on Un-American Activities shall report to the House (or to the 
Clerk of the House if the House is not in session) the results of any such investi- 
gation, together with such recommendations as it deems advisable. 

For the purpose of any such investigation, the Committee on Un-American 
Activities, or any subcommittee thereof, is authorized to sit and act at such times 

d plf'f'es within the United States, whether or not the House is sitting, has 

■-"-"'jd, or has adjourned, to hold such hearings, to require the attendance of 
t-is- ;n '''itnesses and the production of such books, papers, and documents, and 
to take such testimony, as it deems necessary. Subpenas may be issued under 
the signature of the chairman of the committee or any subcommittee, or by any 
member designated by any such chairman, and may be served by any person 
designated by any such chairman or member. 

27. To assist the House in appraising the administration of the laws and in 
developing such amendments or related legislation as it may deem necessary, 
each standing committee of the House shall exercise continuous watchfulness 
of the execution by the administrative agencies concerned of any laws, the subject 
matter of which is within the jurisdiction of such committee; and, for that pur- 
pose, shall study all pertinent reports and data submitted to the House by the 
agencies in the executive branch of the Government. 

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IV 



SYNOPSIS 

A subcommittee of the Committee on Un-American Activities held 
a pubUc hearing in Washington, D.C., on August 10, 1967, to receive 
the testimony of the Rev. Richard Wurmbrand. 

The hearing was held pursuant to a committee resolution which 
authorized that hearings be held "relating to the extent and character 
of Communist propaganda and conspiratorial techniques employed 
within the United States to promote the objectives of the Communist 
Party in the United States and to advance the purposes of the world 
Communist movement by the dissemination of false and misleading 
i^iformation concerning Communist doctrine and practices in regard to 
reUgion and ethnic and minority groups." 

In his opening statement the chairman cited statements by Lenin 
and Stalin regarding the traditional Communist position on reHgion. 
He also reviewed other Communist statements on the subject: 

Sixty-two years ago, Lenin wrote: 

" 'Religion is the opium of the people.' Religion is a kind of spiritual vodka in 
which the slaves of capital drown their human shape and their claims to any decent 
human life." 

Forty years ago, Stalin wrote: 

"The [Communist] Party cannot be neutral towards religion. . . . Anti-religious 
propaganda is a means by which the complete liquidation of the reactionary clergy 
must be brought about." 

In 1946 an official Soviet organ, Young Bolshevik, stated: 

"Dialectical materialism, the philosophy of Marxism-Leninism and the theoreti- 
cal foundation of the Communist Party, is incompatible with religion. . . . the 
[Communist] Party ... is bound to oppose religion." 

Going back to Lenin again, he stated in 1909 that "Marxism is . . . relentlessly 
hostile to religion." 

Earl Browder, for many years the leader of the Communist Party in this country, 
stated that "the Communist Party is the enemy of religion." 

The chairman also noted that as recently as 1964 the Soviet Com- 
munist Party had estabhshed an Institute of Scientific Atheism to 
direct an intensified campaign against reUgious beUefs at every level 
and in every walk of Soviet life. 

The chairman then quoted several recent statements which revealed 
that Communists had ostensibly reversed their position on religion and 
were now telling Christians that they can and must work together with 
Communists to obtain what they call a common goal — a better world 
for mankind. 

The chairman pointed out that: 

These recent statements by Communist officials and publications, if sincere, 
are certainly earth-shaking. If they are genuine, they reflect a major and funda- 
mental change in basic Communist doctrine, a change that could have far-reaching 
effects in all parts of the world, a change that could reshape the thinking of 
millions of people on the subject of communism. 

The Communists, of course, have made many false and treacherous statements 
in the past to serve their devious purposes. The 50-year history of their dealings 
with non-Communists on all levels, governmental and otherwise, is filled with 
examples of this — calculated, cynically and grossly false statements made by 
Communists and their agents for no other reason than to mislead non-Communists 
about the real nature and intent of communism. 

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508 THE NEW COMMUNIST PROPAGANDA LINE ON RELIGION 

He asked this question: "Is the new Communist line on religion 
another example of this, or does it actually indicate a real change in 
communism?" 

Kev. Richard Wurmbrand testified to develop for the record facts 
which would assist the Congress and the American people in answering 
that question. 

Rev. Wurmbrand is a Lutheran pastor and a native of Rumania. 
He was imprisoned after the Communist takeover of his country and 
was released in 1964 as a part of a general amnesty, after having spent 
14 years in prison. He arrived in the United States in 1966. 

Rev. Wurmbrand produced many letters from prominent clergy- 
men in Europe and in the United States attesting to his rehabihty. 
He bears 18 ugly scars on his back, a proof of the physical tortures he 
had suffered at the hands of the Communist regime in Rumania. The 
scars, he said, "are not mine; they are signs of the torturing of my 
fatherland and of my church." 

The witness spoke with the knowledge and emotion one might 
expect from a man who had experienced a Communist takeover of 
his country and suffered unmercifully at the hands of the oppressors 
for his reUgious beUefs. 

He said that before the Communists came to power in Rumania, 
persons who warned what would happen to religion under communism 
were "besmeared." He also testified that Rumanian churches had 
been infiltrated prior to the Communist takeover: 

Professor Constantinescu lashi was one of the best known theological professors 
of Rumania. When the Communists came to power, he became Communist 
Minister of Culture, a member of the Communist government. People opened 
their eyes and asked, "But how? You have prepared for ministry thousands of 
priests. How is it?" He answered, "I have been sent by the Communist Party in 
the theological seminary." 

Bende, the secretary of the Protestant seminary in Cluj in the capitalist times, 
says that he has been sent by the party there to prepare the students in the 
radical sense. 

When the Communists came to power in Rumania, Orthodox priests, Riosheanu, 
Patrashcoiu, and others, appeared dressed at once as colonels of the secret police 
and arrested and beat their parishioners. When the parishioners asked them, "But 
how is this possible? This is a nightmare. You have been my priest; I kissed your 
hand; I took the sacraments from you," they answered: "You dupes, you idiots, 
the Communist Party has sent us in the church." 

After his release from prison, Rev. Wurmbrand stated, he was 
called before the secret police on two occasions and was told: "Now 
you leave [Rumania]. Preach Christ as much as you like, but don't 
touch us!" If he spoke against communism, the secret police warned, 
he would either be shot or kidnaped and returned to Rumania. He 
said he had known men in prison who had been "brought back," and 
although he must five with the fear of being forcibly returned to 
Rumania, he preaches against communism whenever he has the 
opportunity. 

Since his arrival in the United States, Rev. Wurmbrand said he has 
preached to all rehgious denominations: "The rank and file believe 
us, weep when they hear what is happening there * * *." He 
continued : 

When you arrive to the top leaders of churches, some either disbelieve you or 
ask you, beg you, not to speak. 



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THE NEW COMMUNIST PROPAGANDA LINE ON RELIGION 509 

r have been asked, "Well, speak about Christ! We know that you are a very 
gifted preacher * * *." I was told these very words: "Don't speak against com- 
munism, because this will make men hate the Communists and the Russians." 
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Then I asked them, "How is it possible? Please explain it to me. How is it 
possible that you gave me exactly the same advice as the Communist secret 
police gave me? They also told me, "Preach Christ and don't speak about 
communism." 

Committee counsel read to Rev. Wurmbrand some of the statements 
recently made by Communists in their efforts to promote a "dialogue" 
between themselves and Christians. These statements expressed oppo- 
sition to reUgious persecution and coercive methods aimed at reUgion. 
They also claimed that the Soviet Union had at no time passed laws 
to restrict freedom of conscience; that it guarantees reUgious hberty 
by law; and that no organ of Soviet power engages in antireUgious 
propaganda. 

Commenting on the above declarations, Rev. Wurmbrand testified 
that before the Communists came to power in Rumania they had 
"played also the role of being friends of reUgion." 

"Everywhere," he said, "the Communists, until they have the power, 
say that they are the friends of reUgion." 

Rev. Wurmbrand then produced documentary evidence to show what 
the Communists do "after they come to power." 

Out of "hundreds of documents" he said he had in his possession, 
Rev. Wurmbrand selected about 20 of the most recent articles from 
the Soviet press which demonstrated how the aUeged "guarantee" of 
reUgious freedom works in the Soviet Union. The articles were news- 
paper reports of trials of persons charged with crimes against the state. 
In most instances the punishment meted out to individuals who per- 
sist in active reUgious practices is also revealed. 

These documents — aU pubUshed in the Soviet Communist press in 
1966 and 1967 — revealed that persons had been imprisoned for the 
foUowing acts: 

Showing films of a reUgious nature to children; 

Distributing reUgious magazines; 

Baptizing children; 

Teaching reUgion to children. 

Parents who persist in teaching their children about Christ are 
denied "parental rights"; the children are removed from their care 
and placed in state schools away from parental influence. 

As Rev. W^urmbrand translated articles which told of children 
being taken from their parents, he was moved almost to the point 
of tears, saying: 

I have known mothers from whom their children have been taken away. In 
a house which has been full with the noise, with the laughter, with the kicking 
of children, now there is a great silence of God. 

I have seen these mothers; they were like bits of stone. You could not speak 
with them. 

Six children taken away, and that is called "religious liberty," * * *. 

The documents translated by Rev. Wurmbrand revealed that brutal 
suppression and persecution of aU religions is still the trademark of 
communism. These reports of trials and the punishment meted out 
to those who refuse to deny God were published by the Communists 
themselves in their government-controUed press. They contradict the 
statements advanced by such Conununist theoreticians as Aptheker, 



510 THE NEW COMMUNIST PROPAGANDA LINE ON RELIGION 

of the United States, and Garaudy, of France, as a basis for a "dia- 
logue" with Christians. 

As he finished translating the documents. Rev. Wurmbrand asked: 

Now, in matters of communism, who knows communism better? Pravda, 
Kosygin, or Mr. Aptheker, the theoretician of the American Communist Party? 
Who of these should I believe? Aptheker should go to Mr. Kosygin, and they 
should convene what they should say. 

It is said that witnesses were brought against Jesus at the trial, but what one 
witness said did not correspond with the other witness. I would recommend 
to the Communists, when they wish to lie, they should come together and convene 
how to lie. 

They say, every one, another lie. The American Communists speak about reli- 
gious liberty in Russia, but are disowned by their Russian comrades. 

In his testimony. Rev. Wurmbrand also described the fate of the 
religious leaders of Rumania after the Communists took power. 

He had been imprisoned with clergymen of the Catholic, Protestant, 
and Jewish faiths. "With us," he testified, "nearly all the Catholic 
bishops have been killed under tortures. Two or three, perhaps, have 
escaped." "In Rumania I have been in prison with Jewish rabbis. I 
could give their names." The Communists, he said, "make no distinc- 
tion in persecuting reUgion." 

In bringing charges against clergymen. Rev. Wurmbrand said that 
the actual crime is the instruction of children and youth about Christ, 
although the Communists "rarely say this." 

At times, he said, clergymen are charged with theft. The amount 
of the Sunday collection must be reported to the government, and 
pastors must get permission to use any of the money. If any money is 
used for church purposes without government sanction, the pastor is 
branded a thief. 

Charitable work is forbidden, and the sale of Bibles is considered 
illicit commerce. 

Catholic priests, he said, are often accused of sexual offenses if "girls 
come to confess to them. Lies are said, and they are put in prison. 
Others are accused of currency offenses or counterrevolutionary 
activity." 

In its May 2, 1967, issue, Look magazine quoted Roger Garaudy, 
French Communist Party theoretician: 

We [Communists] are told, "You offer your hand when you are not in power 
and your fist when you are in power." At the beginning, Marxism arrived in 
coim tries where Christianity was reactionary and was battled against as a political 
party and not as a religion. This fear of persecution has been spread by elements 
that are political and not religious. 

When asked to comment on the Garaudy statement, Rev. Wurmbrand 
replied that — 

the Communists don't bring any political accusation against those whom they have 
put in prison. 

They say they have spread only religion. They don't accuse this Mrs. Sitsh that 
she had said any counterrevolutionary words to her child. She has taught him the 
Gospel. 

So they say they put men in prison for exclusively religious motives. * * * 

He then added : 

I have been in a prison with the Communist leader of Rumania, Patrashcanu, 
who brought communism to power in Rumania. He has been in the same cell with 
me and has been so tortured until he became mad. And then he was shot. 

Ana Pauker, Vasile Luca, and other Communist leaders have been in the same 
prison with me. 



THE NEW COMMUNIST PROPAGANDA LINE ON RELIGION 511 

They have put in prison those who brought them to power. I would suggest to 
Mr. Gus Hall and to Mr. Aptheker and to other American Communists, they 
should go to a church and pray to God, in whom they don't believe, that com- 
munism should never come to power in America, because as long as they have 
capitalism in America, they are free. 

If communism comes to power, they are shot. In Russia, in Rumania, in Bul- 
garia, the Communists have killed the Communist leaders. 

On the subject of "dialogue," Rev. Wurmbrand suggested that we 
should ask Roger Garaudy and Herbert Aptheker to— 

go first to Moscow, to Peking, to Bucharest and dialogue with your own comrades 
and say that they should release all the Christian prisoners and that they should 
give the children back to their parents. 

The dialogue, he said, "is a lie." To a statement by Archpriest 
Borovoi of Russia that his country was an example of "happy collab- 
oration" between the Communist revolution and Christians, Rev. 
Wurmbrand rephed: 

We gave our backs, and they gave the whips. We gave our liberties, and they gave 
the jails. We gave our children, and they had the joy to bring them up in the athe- 
istic manner. We gave our necks, and they gave the bullets for them. That has 
been the collaboration. 

Rev. Wurmbrand also provided the committee with translations of 
two "doctrinal statements" on rehgion emanating from the Soviet 
Union m 1967: 

The fight against religious remnants is * * * an inseparable part of the entire 
ideological activity of the party organization. The party orients all its organiza- 
tion and its ideological institutions towards aggressive, atheistic activity. (Pravda, 
January 12, 1967.) 

The second statement, pubUshed in the Communist of the Armed 
Forces, February 1967, declared: 

Religion and scientific communism can have nothing in common nor be related 
to each other, as was proved by scholars of Marxism-Leninism. In the future all 
the forms of religion will be thrown on the rubbish heap of history. 



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THE NEW COMMUNIST PROPAGANDA LINE ON 
RELIGION 



THURSDAY, AUGUST 10, 1967 

United States House of Representatives, 

Subcommittee of the 
Committee on Un-American Activities, 

Washington, D.C. 

PUBLIC HEARING 

A subcommittee of the Committee on Un-American Activities met, 
pursuant to call, at 10:20 a.m. in Room 429, Cannon House Office 
Building, Washington, D.C, Hon. William M. Tuck (chairman of the 
subcommittee) presiding. 

(Subcommittee members: Representatives William M. Tuck, of 
Virginia, chairman; Edwin E. Willis, of Louisiana, chairman of the 
full committee; John C. Culver, of Iowa; Richard L. Roudebush, of 
Indiana; and Albert W. Watson, of South Carolina.) 

Subcommittee members present: Representatives Tuck, WUlis, 
and Roudebush. 

Committee members also present: Representatives John M. Ash- 
brook, of Ohio, and Del Clawson, of California. 

Staff members present: Francis J. McNamara, director; Chester 
D. Smith, general counsel; and Alfred M. Nittle, counsel. 

Mr, Tuck. The committee will please come to order. 

We have a quorum present. This subcommittee of the House Com- 
mittee on Un-American Activities is convened this morning to hold 
hearings pursuant to a resolution adopted by the full committee on 
March 8, 1967. The resolution adopted on that date reads as follows : 

BE IT RESOLVED, That hearings by the Committee on Un-American 
Activities or a subcommittee thereof, be held in Washington, D.C, or at such 
other place or places as the Chairman may determine, on such date or dates 
as the Chairman may designate, relating to the extent and character of Com- 
munist propaganda and conspiratorial techniques employed within the United 
States to promote the objectives of the Communist Party in the United States 
and to advance the purposes of the world Communist movement by the dissemi- 
nation of false and misleading information concerning Communist doctrine and 
practices in regard to religion and ethnic and minority groups, the legislative 
purpose being to provide factual information to aid the Congress in the enact- 
ment of any necessary remedial legislation pursuant to the mandate to the 
Committee by House Resolution 7 of January 10, 1967, and Public Law 601 of 
the 79th Congress. 

Sixty-two years ago, Lenin wrote: 

"Religion is the opium of the people." Religion is a kind of spiritual vodka in 
which the slaves of capital drown their human shape and their claims to any 
decent human life. 

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514 THE NEW COMMUNIST PROPAGANDA LINE ON RELIGION 

Forty years ago, Stalin wrote: 

The [Communist] Party cannot be neutral towards religion. . . . Anti-religious 
propaganda is a means by which the complete liquidation of the reactionary 
clergy must be brought about. 

In 1946 an official Soviet organ, Young Bolshevik, stated: 

Dialectical materialism, the philosophy of Marxism-Leninism and the theoreti- 
cal foundation of the Communist Party, is incompatible with religion. . . . the 
[Communist] Party ... is bound to oppose religion. 

Going back to Lenin again, he stated in 1909 that "Marxism is . . • 
relentlessly hostile to religion." 

Earl Browder, for many years the leader of the Commmiist Party 
in this country, stated that "the Commmiist Party is the enemy of 
religion." 

We are all too familiar with the many facts produced from the time 
of the Bolshevik revolution until a few years ago which demonstrated 
that, when Lenin, Stalin, and Browder made the above-quoted state- 
ments, they were unquestionably speaking the truth in regard to the 
Communist Party. Brutal suppression and persecution of all religions 
has been a trademark of communism everywhere. 

As recently as 1964, angered and frustrated by its failure to destroy 
religion in the U.S.S.R. after 45 years' effort, the Soviet Communist 
Party established an Institute of Scientific Atheism to direct an in- 
tensHied campaign against religious beliefs at every level and in every 
walk of life in the Soviet Union. 

But now the Communists are speaking a different language. The 
leading theoretician of the French Communist Party, Roger Garaudy, 
was in the United States recently to deliver a series of lectures, includ- 
ing several on campuses of church-affiliated educational institutions. 
Basically, his message was that there must be "dialogue" between 
Christians and Communists, that they can leam from one another and 
work together to their mutual benefit. 

Early this year, in a midwestern city, the president of a university 
chapter of the Communist youth group, the W.E.B. DuBois Clubs, 
told a group of Christian clergymen that, while "Marxists are still 
atheists," Marxists and Christians can — and should — work together. 
He urged his clergymen audience to reject the traditional Christian 
doctrine of "turning the other cheek" and instead to "hate their 
oppressors and fight them," to the end. He claimed that the Marxist 
attitude toward religion had softened. 

Are this young man and the French Communist theoretician de- 
viationists who have turned away from, and broken with, the official 
doctrine of communism as it is enunciated by Moscow? 

The answer is "no." They are propagandists of the new Communist 
line on religion, a line promulgated by the Kremlin and now being 
widely disseminated in the non-Communist world. 

The July 1966 issue of Political A fairs, an official monthly organ of 
the Communist Party, U.S.A., was devoted completely to the subject 
of "Communism and Religion." It featured eight articles on the 
subject, five of them written by key leaders of the U.S. Communist 
Party, including party boss, Gus Hall, and Herbert Aptheker, the 
party's leading theoretician. 

The basic message of this special issue of the Communist organ was 
that communism and religion are no longer incompatible, that Chris- 
tians and Communists can work together, and that they should do so. 



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THE NEW COMMUNIST PROPAGANDA LINE ON RELIGION 515 

At the 1966 conveiition of the Communist Party, a young Com- 
munist leader, a former seminarian, stated that there is "no contradic- 
tion between being a Communist and a communicant." 

The new draft program of the Communist Party, U.S.A., published 
in 1966, claims that the party's membership is composed of both 
beUevers and atheists; that Communists see many values in rehgion; 
and that in a Communist United States "full freedom of conscience 
and worship will be guaranteed." 

These recent statements by Communist officials and publications, 
if sincere, are certainly earth-shaking. If they are genuine, they 
reflect a major and fundamental change in basic Communist doctrine, 
a change that could have far-reaching effects in all parts of the world, 
a change that could reshape the thinking of millions of people on the 
subject of communism. 

The Communists, of course, have made many false and treacherous 
statements in the past to serve their devious purposes. The 50-year 
history of their dealings with non-Communists on all levels, govern- 
mental and otherwise, is filled with examples of this — calculated, 
cynically and grossly false statements made by Communists and their 
agents for no other reason than to mislead non-Communists about 
the real nature and intent of communism. 

Is the new Communist line on religion another example of this, or 
does it actually indicate a real change in communism? 

It is the purpose of this hearing to develop for the record facts that 
will help Congress and the American people answer this question. 

I now offer for inclusion in the record the order of appointment of 
the subcommittee to conduct these hearings: 

August 9, 1967. 
To: Mr. Francis J. McNamara, 
Director, Committee on Un-American Activities. 

Pursuant to the provisions of the law and the Rules of this Committee, I 
hereby appoint a subcommittee of the Committee on Un-American Activities, 
consisting of Honorable William M. Tuck, as Chairman, and myself, Honorable 
John C. Culver, Honorable Richard L. Roudebush and Honorable Albert W. 
Watson, as associate members, to conduct hearings in Washington, D.C., com- 
mencing on or about Thursday, August 10, 1967, and/or at such other times 
thereafter and places as said subcommittee shall determine, as contemplated by 
the resolution adopted by the Committee on the 8th day of March, 1967, author- 
izing hearings concerning the extent and character of Communist propaganda 
and conspiratorial techniques employed within the United States to promote the 
objectives of the Communist Party and world Communism by the dissemination 
of false and misleading information concerning Communist doctrine and practices 
in regard to religion, and other matters under investigation by the Committee. 

Please make this action a matter of Committee record. 

If any member indicates his inability to serve, please notify me. 

Given under my hand this 9th day of August, 1967. 

/s/ Edwin E. WiUis 
Edwin E. Wilus, 
Chairman, Committee on Un-American Activities. 

Are we ready to caU the witness? 

Mr. Smith. Yes, sir. 

Mr. Tuck. Will you stand and raise your right hand? 

Reverend Wurmbrand, do you solemnly swear the testimony you 
are about to give to this committee will be the truth, the whole truth, 
and nothing but the truth, so help you God? 

Mr. Wurmbrand. Yes, sir. 



516 THE NEW COMMUNIST PROPAGANDA LINE ON RELIGION 

TESTIMONY OF REV. RICHAED WURMBRAND 

Mr. Tuck. Proceed. 

Mr. Smith. Reverend Wurmbrand, will you give the committee 
your full name, please? 

Mr. WuRMBRAlND. My name is Richard Wurmbrand. 

Mr. Smith. Where and when were you born? 

Mr. Wurmbrand. I was born on the 24th of March 1909, in 
Bucharest, Rumania. 

Mr. Smith. Are you a citizen of the United States? 

Mr. Wurmbrand. No; I am a Rumanian citizen. 

Mr. Smith. What is your present status? 

Mr. Wurmbrand. I am here as an alien resident. 

Mr. Smith. When did you come to the United States and from 
what country? 

Mr. Wurmbrand. I came the first time in April 1966 from Rumania 
through Norway. 

Mr. Smith. How did you happen to come to the United States? 

Mr. Wurmbrand. I was bought out from Rumania. I was ran- 
somed from Rumania by church organizations. I came to Norway, 
and there I was invited to preach with the American Lutheran Church 
and in a meeting of the NATO staflF. 

I told them what is happening in Rmnania. Especially at the NATO 
meeting there was an interesting happening. A colonel of the American 
Army asked me: "What do you think about peaceful coexistence with 
communism?" 

I have been so many years with pickpockets in prison, I have learned 
something from them. In a minute his purse was in my pocket, and 
then I stretched my hand to him and said : 

"Let us peacefully coexist, but your purse wiU remain in my pocket. 

"That is what the Communists wish. They have taken half of 
Europe. They have taken China, they have taken Rumania. They have 
taken Russia itself by force. 

"Never has any nation chosen in free elections the Communists as 
their rulers. They have stolen a third of the world, and now they say 
'Let us peacefully coexist.' They should give back what they have 
stolen." 

Those of the American Lutheran Church and the military chapel in 
Oslo were so much impressed by what I preached that they immedi- 
ately collected money to send me to America, to tell you the same 
things. 

I will here express my thankfulness to Pastor Myrus Knutson of 
Our Savior's American Lutheran Church in Los Angeles and to Colonel 
Sturdy, a military chaplain, who have helped with this, as well as to 
the anonymous contributors. 

Mr. Smith. Under what circumstances or, in other words, how 
were you able to leave Rumania? 

Mr. Wurmbrand. I have been in Rumania in prison 14 years. I 
was sentenced to 25 years, but in '64 a general amnesty has been given. 

At that time a delegation of our Rumanian Government was in 
America asking for loans and for trade. It was somehow whispered in 
their ears that the administration of America is under the pressure of 
public opinion and that the public opinion in the West does not like 
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Next day we were driven out of prison. So much can America do 
for the enslaved peoples. 

Then I resumed my Christian underground work. But very soon 
they began to rearrest those whom they had liberated. I was under 
such danger, and then church organizations paid for me a ransom of 
$7,000 — the Norwegian Israel's Mission and the Hebrew-Christian 
Alliance. And I express here my thankfulness to them, too. 

Mr. Smith. Were the authorities not afraid to let you out of Ru- 
mania? 

Mr. WuRMBRAND. Well, that is a very interesting question. They 
have let out from Rumania several of those who have been in prison. 
And we have asked ourselves why they do it. 

On one side, they believe very much in brainwashing, and they are 
not ^vrong in believing this. 

I don't wish to use names here, but there are in America Rumanian 
clergymen who have been in prison with me, who have been tortured 
just like me. And some of them are praising communism here, under 
the influence of the brainwashings in prison. 

There have been all kind of threats, so they believe that it is dan- 
gerous to speak out. 

But there is also another motive. A CathoUc priest, when the 
passport has been handed to him to go to Western Germany, asked 
the secret police: "But don't you fear to send me out to Germany? 
You have kept me in prison 7 years. I have passed through so many 
horrors. I will tell them there." 

And they answered laughingly: "You just teU them! Tell them 
everything! TeU them the worst things! The more you will say, the 
less you will be believed. Nobody will believe you." 

Americans did not believe about the gas chambers and the fur- 
naces of Hitler until the American troops did see them; so it happens 
mth the Communist atrocities. They seem incredible. 

I myself, during the nights, ask myself sometimes if everything 
has not been a nightmare. So incredible are the Communist horrors. 

The Communists threaten former prisoners, but they don't fear 
much that we will speak out. 

Mr. Smith. What is your profession? 

Mr. WuRMBRAND. I am a Lutheran pastor. 

Mr. Smith. And where are you employed? 

Mr. WuRMBRAND. Now I am employed by a mission called Mission 
to Europe's Milhons. It is an American branch of a British organiza- 
tion called European Christian Mission, a mission which has as its 
program the spreading of the gospel in Europe. 

I am the representative for the missionary work in the Communist 
world. 

Mr. Smith. Where is the headquarters of this mission? 

Mr. WuRMBRAND. There is one in London and one in Glendale, 
California. 

Mr. Smith. Is it supported by interdenominational groups? 

Mr. WuRMBRAND. Ycs, Christians of all kinds of denominations and 
individual churches are supporting us. 

I formerly belonged to the organization "Underground Evangel- 
ism," which I left for earnest motives. 

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Mr. WuRMBRAND. Yes ; but first I wish to add a few words about 
the purpose of this mission, if I may. The purpose is to help the 
underground church behind the Iron Curtain: to support its pastors, 
to support famihes of Christian martyrs, to supply them with Bibles 
and with other Christian literature. 

Mr. Smith. Do you have any credentials that would identify you 
in your activities? 

Mr. WuRMBRAND. Yes. 

As coming out from Rumania, we could take not a bit of paper with 
us, I have asked many people who have known me in Kumania to give 
me credentials. 

Here I have one of a member of our royal family: "I can positively 
answer that Wurmbrand is genuine. I knew about him smce 1947 
* * * . He made a deep impression upon me. What he relates coin- 
cides with what I know. I am glad that you are taking a positive 
interest in this man because he is really worth it. * * *" 

One from Peter Dinisiu, Baptist preacher of Rumanian origin. He 
says: "I have known Rev. R. Wurmbrand since the year 1936. He 
was head of the Swedish Israel's mission, and representative of the 
World Council of Churches, one of the best known Lutheran pastors 
of Rumania." 

Here is a credential — I can't give the name — of one of the biggest 
Christian leaders of Rumania. It has been smuggled out from 
Rumania : 

"I recommend Mr. Wurmbrand as one of the most faithful of Jesus 
Christ." 

Alexander Bale, Baptist pastor in Akron, Ohio, also of Rumanian 
origin: "I know Wurmbrand personally from Rumania. He is one of 
the best known Lutheran evangelic pastors. He was head of the 
Swedish Israel's mission and representative of the World Council of 
Churches. He is generally known in Rumania as fighter against Com- 
munism." Myrus Knutson, from Our Savior's American Lutheran 
congregation in Los Angeles: "His life and story have been thoroughly 
checked. He is trustworthy and responsible." 

The Norwegian Israel's mission : "He has passed 14 years in prison." 

The Friends of Israel Missionary Society, Philadelphia: "We know 
Wurmbrand * * *. The valuable services he has rendered to his con- 
gregation in time of need and his total dedication to the cause of Christ 
have made Richard Wurmbrand one of the most outstanding Protest- 
ant pastors and Christians of our day." 

Mr. Robert Tobias, formerly assistant director in the World Coun- 
cil of Churches in Geneva: "Mr. Wurmbrand was liaison representa- 
tive for our work of the World Council and Church World Service." 

The head of the Luthern World Federation in Israel, Magne 
Solheim, formerly in Rumania, speaks also about my work in the World 
Council of Churches and 14 years of prison. I quote: "In the period of 
1946-48, when I also served as representative of the Reconstruction 
Department of the WCC in RVimania, Rev. Wurmbrand worked 
together with me, doing a very precious work." 

Here is a very interesting credential from a pastor of Rumanian 
origin, Milan Haimavici, who has passed himself 7 years in Comnaunist 
prisons, and how he tells the story of his and my torture: "Since I 
was put many questions concerning Pastor Wurmbrand, and was also 
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"The tortures consisted in hour-long beatings on the whole body 
and at the bottom of the feet, in long hunger, in being kept for weeks 
in places where you could only stand, in eating out of pots where we 
were compelled to fulfill our necessities * * *" — I myself have eaten 
of such a pot — "* * * in being put barefoot on burning coals. 

"Before God I can swear that I passed through all these tortures, 
and like me, many other thousands of prisoners, and Pastor Wurm- 
brand, too." 

Peter Trutza, Baptist professor at the Northern Baptist Theological 
Seminary, of Rumanian origin, says the same about my representing 
the World Council and my being known as Lutheran pastor and 
fighter against communism. 

Priest Galdau of the Rumanian Orthodox Church in New York: 
"He is a Lutheran pastor well known for his struggle against com- 
munism while in Rumania. He is the author of several books on this 
subject. 

"He represented, together with Pastor Magne Solheim the World 
Council of Churches in Rumania." 

The International Christian Hebrew Alliance: "He has been ran- 
somed from Rumania by the payment of a large sum of money, 
and our organization had a large part in raising the funds from 
Christian people for this ransom." 

Pastor Gote Hedenquist, Swede, former secretary of the World 
Council of Churches, speaks also about my 14 years of prison and 
my work for this institution. 

I could give some 50 other credentials, but I think these are enough. 
I wish to make it clear that by presenting these credentials, the 
persons mentioned are not implied in responsibility for what I say. 
I speak only in my own name, as a private person. Neither these 
persons, nor my mission, have been consulted nor have any responsi- 
bility for what I will say. I specify also that, although I worked for 
the WCC, I don't agree at all with its friendly attitude towards 
Communists. 

Mr. Tuck. Do you wish, Mr. Smith, to file those documents as 
exhibits with the record? 

Mr. Smith. I do not believe, Mr. Chairman, that it is necessary to 
include these documents in the hearing record. I would suggest, 
however, that they be retained in committee files. 

Mr. WuRMBRAND. The documents are at your disposal. You can 
have photo copies of them. 

The Chairman. Mr. Wurmbrand, you are of German extraction? 

Mr. Wurmbrand. No, I am a Jew. 

The Chairman. Let me ask you: Is there as much persecution of 
the Jews as there is of the Christians behind the Iron Curtain? 

Mr. Wurmbrand. In Rumania I have been in prison with Jewish 
rabbis. I could give their names — Schoenfeld, Deutsch Junior, and 
many others. I don't remember all the names. 

The Communists make no distinction in persecuting religion. 

As about Russia, Svetlana Stalina says that her husband, only 
because he was a Jew, for no other reason, has been deported for 11 
vears. She says that her sister-in-law, also only because she was Jewish, 
has been deported and since killed in a concentration camp. 

Well, more and more, these facts must be known. 

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The Chairman. It must be known, and I am so grateful to you that 
you, who are of Jewish extraction, are bringing them out. I appreciate 
it. 

Mr. WuRMBRAND. Very often the anti-Communists are smeared 
as being anti-Semite. Sorrily, it is sometimes true, but more often not. 
In any case, this is one argument which cannot be brought against me, 
because I am Semite and love my Jewish people. 

The Chairman. That is right. 

Mr. WuRMBRAND. Usually it is said that Stalin has been anti- 
Semite. 

Now, Stalin has never killed a Jew. He has had henchmen, and these 
henchmen had the names of Mikoyan, of Khrushchev, Kosygin, of 
Brezhnev. They were with him in the central committee when this 
whole anti-Semitic politics has been practiced. It is madness that 
some Jews in America and other parts of the world are ready to die for 
this anti-Semitic communism. Some of them — surely very few, but 
some of them. 

Djilas, an old Communist, who has been put in prison by Tito, says 
in his book about the anti-Semitism which reigns at the Kremlin, 
and about which he himself was afraid. 

A Christian can only love the Jews. From the human side, Christian- 
ity is Jewish. 

Horrible things are happening with the Jews in Russia from a 
religious point of view. In Kiev there are something like 300,000 Jews 
who have only one synagogue, with one rabbi 80 years old. 

In Vilnus there is also only one synagogue. 

The chief rabbi of Georgia has been hanged with the head down. 

In Tashkent there has been recently a pogrom. Jews have been 
driven to suicide in Russia, being called to the secret police and asked 
to organize anti-Israel meetings. 

Now, they could not organize them, first of aU because Israel is 
right, and then they belong to Israel. And they were driven to suicide, 
because otherwise they would have gone to prison. 

Last week in Poland, officers of Jewish background have been dis- 
missed from the army. 

The attitude of the Communists towards the Jews has been seen in 
the recent Middle East crisis, when they were entirely on the side of 
the enemies of the Jews. 

I am very sorry that there are still some Jews — I believe there are 
not many — who don't realize that to be a Communist means to be a 
traitor to your Jewish race. 

The Chairman. That is what concerns me so much. I am glad to 
have that for the record and to have you clarify that point. 

Mr. WuRMBRAND. Marx has been an anti-Semite. Marx himself has 
been of Jewish origin, but he has written a fierce anti-Semitic book 
called The Jewish Question. I would recommend Mr. Aptheker, the 
theoretician of the American Communist Party, to read it. 

The official attitude of the Communist International towards the 
Jewish question is fixed in a book of Heller, an official book of the 
Communist International, and it is called — it was first published in 
Germany— Z>6r Untergang des Judentnms {The End of Judaism). In it 
they say that communism means the end of Judaism. 

I hope that Mr. Aptheker, for whom I have sentiments of love, as 
for every man, may not have read this book. I would recommend him 
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Communism has been anti-Semitic from its beginning. 

My knowledge is that not a lot of Jews are Communists. The Jewish 
Communists are very few, but noisy, giving thus the wrong impression 
that they are many. 

Mr. Smith. Reverend Wurmbrand, have you been known by any 
other name or names? 

Mr. Wurmbrand. Oh, yes, I have had in my life very many names, 
out of two motives. 

First of all, I worked in the underground church. Also, in Rumania 
I led the secret Christian missionary work in the Soviet Army. 

Our country was invaded by some 1 million Russians. I speak 
Russian fluently, as good as English, you may say as bad as English. 
But in any case, I speak it. I organized immediately the secret work 
among them and, also, the underground work among Rumanians. And 
where I went, in every village and in every town, I had to have another 
name. 

Now only I understand parts of Scripture as I have never understood 
before. I never understood before why in the New Testament it is 
written: Simon called Peter, Jacob and John called the sons of the 
Thunder, Simeon called Niger, John called Mark, and so on. 

Now I understand. The first Christian church was a secret organiza- 
tion. And we also operate in the Christian work in Communist coun- 
tries A\ath secret names. We never introduce ourselves. 

I have published books under all kinds of pseudonyms. 

And then, w^hen I was put in prison, I was told the first day: "You 
are henceforth Vasile Georgescu. You are not allowed to say to anybody 
your real name." 

I have not been arrested in a formal manner. I have been kidnaped 
from the street. That was their manner of arresting at that time. 

There have been protests against my arrest. The Swedish Ambas- 
sador and others protested. The Communists answered that I have 
not been arrested, that I have disappeared. Therefore, that a guard 
after a glass of wine may not say the secret that I am in prison, the 
guard had not the right to know my right name. 

The same, Greek Catholic bishops, and other prisoners known 
abroad were kept in prison under false names. 

Mr. Smith. Why was that necessary? 

Mr. Wurmbrand. Having nicknames in the underground church 
was necessary, because we were dogged by the secret police. If in a 
village, in a town, it would have been known that Wurmbrand has 
arrived, I would have gone to prison immediately. But with false 
names I could hide myself. As regards the other name, the secret 
name given to me in prison, that was their manner to hide from 
people that these and these people are arrested. 

The people w ere kidnaped from the streets. They disappeared. They 
answered to my family when she inquired: "Oh, who knows? He may 
have found a girl somewhere and have disappeared," and things 
like this. 

The Swedish Ambassador, Patrick von Reuterswarde, was told by 
Ana Pauker, who was at that time head of our Department of State, 
that "Wurmbrand is not arrested. He is somewhere, fled from the 
country." 

Therefore, they kept us under a false name. 

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Reverend Wunnbrand, you stated that the arresting authorities, on 
occasion, would keep your real name or the real name of other religious 
prisoners secret, in effect, from the public. 

Is this because in Rumania there stUl would be a resentment to the 
state having an oppressive doctrine against religion? They are afraid 
to meet public opinion? 

Mr. WuRMBRAND. I will answer you simply. I preached in Kansas 
City, and there I was introduced with the words: "Here is a pastor 
from a Communist country." 

I protested: "I am not from a Communist country. I am from a 
Christian country. I am from a Christian country oppressed by the 
Communists." 

Practically nearly nobody is Communist with us. The Communists 
are a small, an infinitesimal minority, which rules by terror and by 
deceit, which was imposed upon us by the Russians. Rumania is not 
a Communist country. 

I have been 14 years with thieves and murderers, and not with 
gentlemen, I may have lost manners and may be impolite. But I have 
sworn here to say the whole truth, and I will say simply what I know 
and what I think. 

My son is studying now in a Californian university. On the walls it 
is written, "American murderers." That is not -written in our univer- 
sities. If anybody would write it in a Rumanian university, the 
Rumanian students would tear it down. 

In our country nobody can burn an American flag. He would be 
trodden under the feet of the Rumanians. 

We are not a Communist country. 

Mr. AsHBROOK. Then it would be fair to say that it would not be 
generally known, for example, among Christians in Rumania that you 
were in prision for 14 years. 

Mr. WuRMBRAND. They feared that it would create an agitation. In 
the end it was known, but they wished to delay the agitation as much 
as possible. 

Mr. AsHBRooK. Thank you. 

Mr, Smith. Mr. Wurmbrand, wiU you give us your address here in 
the United States? 

Mr. Wurmbrand. I am very gladly at your disposal to give the 
address privately to the committee, but I can't give it in public. 

Mr. Smith. Is there any reason for that? 

Mr. Wurmbrand. Yes; because I am under the menace of being 
kidnaped or killed. 

Mr. Smith. I see. 

Mr. Wurmbrand. Before leaving Rumania, I was called twice to 
the secret police, and I was told: "Now you leave [Rumania]. Preach 
Christ as much as you like, but don't touch us! If you touch us, for a 
thousand dollars we can find a gangster who wUl finish you * * *" — 
which was not true, because they can find him for $500 — "* * * or 
we can bring you back." 

(I have been myself in the same cell Avith a Rumanian Orthodox 
bishop, Vasile Leul, who has been kidnaped from Austria and has 
been brought back in Rumanian prisons, and many others like him.) 

"Or we can destroy you morally. We can find out a story with a 
girl or money or so, and people will believe it. So be very careful abovit 
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I have very earnest motives to be careful about giving in public 
my address, the more so as I know recent cases of very bad things 
which have happened to others. 

Czeckoslovakian agents of the Communist secret police with the 
names of Jaroslav Kovar, Jindrich Zelenka, and Josef Ruzicka have 
killed 1 1 men and 2 women, living in Western Germany, Switzerland, 
and other countries of the free world because, for some motive, their 
lives were considered as dangerous to the Communists. 

I give 3^ou the names of some of those kiUed : 

Christa Wanninger, killed in Rome; Marcel Leopold, killed with a 
poisonous arrow; Dr. Paul Stauffer, killed with five bullets. 

Matus Cernak received a parcel in Munich. When he opened it, it 
exploded and kUled three persons. 

A defector from the Czech Communist police disclosed the names 
of the murderers and all the circumstances. 

The brother of our Prime Minister disappeared. What wonderful 
conditions there are in our country, you can see by the fact that the 
brother of our Prime Minister, Ceaushescu, defected, something 
like 2 months ago. He went to France. He was not accepted by 
Germany, because Germany wishes to make trade with Rumania 
and money is always more important than the souls of men. He went 
to France, and from France he disappeared. Now he is in a Rumanian 
prison. I could give you many such cases which have happened. 
Therefore, I can't give in public my address, but I can give a post 
office box. My address is P.O. Box 11, Glendale, California 91209. 
The Communist kidnapers may seek me at the post office box! 

Mr. RouDEBusH. Mr. Counsel, I would like to ask a question. 

Reverend, can you give me or the committee any cases that you 
know of, of former religious leaders from behind the Iron Curtain 
who have been kidnaped or killed in this country? 

Mr. WuRMBRAND. In this country, I don't know. 

Mr. RouDEBusH. You do not know of any? 

Mr. WuRMBRAND. I dou't kuow in this country; no. 

Mr. RouDEBUSH. Another question I would like to ask you. You 
said that when the secret police turned you loose they had no fear of 
what you had to say, because they felt that you would not be believed 
by people of the free world. 

Mr. WuRMBRAND. Yes. 

Mr. RouDEBusH. Have you found this phenomenon to be true? 

Mr. WuRMBRAND. Well, partially, it is true. I preach nearly every 
evening in some auditorium or in some church of all kinds of denomina- 
tions. I have preached with the Catholics and with the Lutherans and 
with the Jews and %vith everybody. The rank and file believe us, weep 
when they hear what is happening there, only they have no influence 
at all. 

When you arrive to the top leaders of churches, some either dis- 
believe you or ask you, beg you, not to speak. 

I was asked by one, I don't msh to tell his name 

Mr. RouDEBusH. You mean the heads of- churches where you 
appear ask you not to be candid about your experiences? 

Mr. WuRMBRAND. Ycs, surcly. 

Mr. RouDEBusH. This is an amazing thing. 

Mr. WuRMBRAND. I publish next week a book of mine called 
Wurmbrand's Letters, my letters to the leaders of the World Council 
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I have been asked, "Well, speak about Christ! We know that you are 
a very gifted preacher and we will help you in this. You can say every- 
thing," and so on. "But don't speak" — I was told these very words: 
"Don't speak against communism, because this wUl make men hate 
the Communists and the Russians." 

I answered, "I am a man who comes not from a jungle, but from a 
subterranean prison of a jungle. I am a man who has nearly never seen 
a book 14 years. I have nearly never had a pencil in my hand 14 years. 

"You give me this advice, but I know about you personally that you 
marched against injustice done to the Negroes in the South. Now I 
am a foreigner here and I don't know if these injustices are real or 
alleged. Suppose that they are real. You marched against them. Did 
you not fear that you will make the Negroes to hate the white? 

"Why is it that in any town of America you can see movie pictures 
about the atrocities of the Nazis against the Jews — and such movie 
pictures should exist. It has been a huge crime to kill millions of Jews. 
My family has been killed. But I can't agree that only Jews should not 
be killed. Russians shouldn't be kUled either, nor Rumanians or 
Chinese, and Communists are killing these everywhere. Show me one 
motion picture in all America about these atrocities which I will 
document from the Soviet press, about these atrocities happening 
today." 

And I was told, "Don't speak out about these things." 

Then I asked them, "How is it possible? Please explain it to me. 
How is it possible that you gave me exactly the same advice as the 
Communist secret police gave me? They also told me, 'Preach Christ 
and don't speak about communism.' " 

TJie rank-and-file Christians and Jews simply feel that I tell them 
the truth, and they respond and they weep. 

But the Communists are not concerned about them, because they 
know that these don't decide things. As to the top leaders — not all, 
but many of them — and I don't know how to measure my words, but 
they were not on our side. 

I came as a naive to America. I believed if I was told that this is a 
head of the World Council or the National Council or of the Presby- 
terian Church or of the Lutheran Church, I believed that he is a 
representative of Christ on earth, and I went to him as to a brother. I 
didn't find with them the sympathy of Christ for the martyred 
church. 

I can't really speak about what is happening in the Communist 
camp. I am only a man. When you sleep — I can't sleep, because I 
hear what is happening there. When I go to a church, you hear there 
the songs. I hear the cries of the tortured martyrs. There exists another 
Christian song, which is sung in the Communist countries. "Ah, ah, ah, 
don't beat! Don't beat!" This is a Christian song which I have heard 
14 years day and night. I hear it even now, the song sung there. 
There is with me an emotional involvement. And I think that every 
Christian must feel like me. We Christians are one body. And even if 
you are not a Christian, you are a man and you must feel with another 
man. I would feel with a Muslim. I feel with a Communist, if he is 
tortured. I feel with a criminal. A criminal should not be tortured. 

I have been in Philadelphia. The newspapers announced a public 
rally against Vietnam. I have never seen a pubUc rally against the 
government of our country. Such a thing does not exist in the Com- 
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So I went out of curiosity and I stood near the pulpit. A Presbyterian 
pastor led the rally. As long as he spoke against Johnson and against 
the war it was not niy business. I am a foreigner. I will never mix in 
internal American affairs. But then he began to praise communism. 
This, I could not bear. And as he was a small man and I am taU, I 
made just like this [gesturing], and he was no more on the pulpit. 
I was on the pulpit. And I said to him, "How do you dare to praise 
the Communists? The Communists are torturing Christians." He 
asked: "What do you know about communism?" 

When he asked me, "What do you know about communism?" I 
said, "I am a doctor of communism and I wiU show you my diploma as 
a doctor." With this, I undressed myself to the belt. I showed him. 
I have 18 marks in my body. I did not know that it is illegal in your 
country to undress yourself in a pubUc place. I said, showing the scars: 
"This the Communists have done to me." 

So one asked me, "Why did they do you this?" I said, "Because I 
am a murderer. Do you think that murderers should be tortured? 
Has Oswald been tortured? Has Ruby been tortured?" And I asked 
the audience, "Do you think that murderers should be tortured?" 
The audience said "No." 

"Well," I said, "I have never been charged with murder. I am a 
clergyman, just like he is, and this is a Judas. He praises the Com- 
munists instead of Jesus." 

And then his adherents booed him as a Judas. One cut the wire of 
the microphone, and the police took me out. 

The Chairman. Reverend, I am not suggesting what I am about 
to say is directed against your testimony, but you are saying things 
that are hard to believe here. 

Mr. WuRMBRAND. Ycs. I know it myself. Incredible things happen. 
There are some American clergymen who praise communism. 

The Chairman. I can't conceive of responsible, religious people not 
wanting you to speak out against communism and cautioning you to 
keep your mouth shut. To me that is incredible. 

Mr. WuRMBRAND. Well, if you will allow me, I will show you the 
documents, exclusively of the Soviet press, not mine, in which they 
say about sentencing Christians. If I can read these newspapers, 
everyone in America can read them and can have them translated. 

They say about taking away children from their parents because 
their parents have told them about Christ. How would you like that 
your children should be taken away? Here is what the Soviet press 
says. I will present to you all these documents. 

They say about confiscating Bibles. They say about all the horrors 
which they commit. I went with such documents to Christian leaders, 
but some of them were busy with something else: to picket before the 
White House against the war in Vietnam. 

I don't speak out here for or against the war. I don't wish to mix 
in this thing, but why did they not picket before the Russian Embassy 
for their Christian brethren who are persecuted? 

T will present to you the documents. You will see the documents 
exist. And if some church leader has been misinformed before, he 
has the information from me now, and I am ready to appear to debate 
with leaders of your Communist Party, with leaders of your church 
organizations, who say that there is a religious liberty there. They 
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They can contradict me, but not the documents. 

Socrates said, "I can be contradicted. Truth can't be contradicted." 
With Socrates you finish very easily as being a homosexual, but \vith 
his philosophy, you can't finish hke this. With me, you can finish. 
I am a sinner. But what about the documents I present? 

One has written to me a letter: "I know a sin of yours from 1930." 
He may have heard it from a Rumanian. There was a threat in these 
words and a hope that I will be quiet in the future. 

My answer is : In 1930, 1 had the age of 20, and I was not a Christian. 
I can send you a list of 50 sins which I have committed in 1930, and 
of another 50 sins which I commit today. Don't you believe in the 
remission of sins by the blood of Jesus? How can a Christian leader 
remind a sin since long washed away in baptism? 

I am a sinner — I know it myself; no one has to remind me — but the 
facts which I present about Communist persecution of religion can't 
be contradicted. These facts must be known by the church members, 
by America, by the whole free world. We are oppressed there. We are 
tyrannized. I bring you the cry of those oppressed. If you will allow 
me, I will show you one document. 

Mr. Smith. Mr. Chairman, Reverend Wurmbrand some months 
ago forwarded some 50 documents to the committee we expected to 
introduce with his testimony today. These documents are in the 
Russian language. At the request of the committee, the Library of 
Congress prepared English translations of the documents. However, 
Reverend Wurmbrand has brought with him documents more up to 
date than those previously forwarded, which he will introduce with 
his testimony. 

Since the committee has not had time to secure Engl'sh translation 
of the documents, he will summarize the contents of each as he 
introduces it. 

Permiss on is requested that all these documents, both those 
previously forwarded as well as those he will introduce today, be 
received and be made a part of the record with determination to be 
made later as to whether they will be reproduced as exhibits.' 

The Chairman. Well, I can understand that these documents 
emanating from Russia, or wherever, saying those things, I can 
understand the accuracy of those, but I still say it is incredible to 
me that a responsible churchman or responsible man in America 
would try to stifle your talking against communism. 

Mr. Wurmbrand. The word "church" is an ambiguous word. 
There exists a church, the bride of Christ. I have seen her dying for 
Christ and loving Him. And there exists an institutional church in 
which you become a leader because you have some academic quali- 
fications, and not because you have burning love towards Christ, a 
church in which there exists no tears for those who suffer, no joy for 
Christian victories. 

The real church, it weeps with us and it jubilates with us. And now 
if I may present, I have chosen on'y 

Mr. Tuck. Unless there is objection to the procedure suggested 
by counsel, and the Chair hears none, you may proceed. 

Mr. Smith. Reverend Wurmbrand, you heard the opening state- 
ment of the chairman in which he pointed out that the Communist 

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Party of the United States, in a reversal of its old longstanding propa- 
ganda line of the incompatibility of communism and religion, is now 
claiming that Christianity and communism are compatible; that 
Christians should work with Communists and can do so to their 
benefit. 

Quoting from Herbert Aptheker's item, which he wrote in the Polit- 
ical Afairs magazine of July 1966 — this magazine is an official organ 
of the Communist Party of the United States 

Mr. WuRMBRAND. I kuow it. 

Mr. Smith. — and Herbert Aptheker is the recognized theoretician 
of the Communist Party of the United States. Quoting, "Marxism, 
of course, opposes religious persecution; it opposes coercive methods 
aimed at religion." 

I also quote from a writer. Miss Betty Gannett, a high Communist 
Party, U.S.A., functionary and present editor of Political Affairs 
writing on the subject of "Religion in the USSR" in the same July 
1966 issue of Political Affairs. Quoting: "Contrary to prevalent mis- 
conceptions in our country the Soviet Union has at no time passed 
laws to restrict freedom of conscience or the right to religious worship. 
On the other hand, it has not only proclaimed but guaranteed religious 
liberty by law." And that "no organ of Soviet power conducted anti- 
religious propaganda * * *." 

Do you have any documents with you today which bear on this as 
to whether these claims are true or false? 

Mr. WuRMBRAND. I have, first of all, the doctrinal statements of 
our Communists. Here, in America, they state what you have read. 

When the Communists came to power in Rumania they were very 
weak and played also the role of being friends of religion. We had a 
Communist Party only of 10,000 members when they arrived to rule. 
They have been imposed by the Russians. Vishinsky came to our 
King and beat a fist on the table and said, "You must nominate this 
government." Now, being so weak, the Communists have convened 
in Rumania in the building of the Parliament, a congress of cults. 
There were 4,000 priests, pastors, rabbis, mullahs, of all kinds of 
religions. The Prime Minister of the Communist government, Petru 
Groza, delivered a speech and said, "Oh, yes, in olden times in Russia 
there have been bad things about religion. These have passed away 
since long. You should be on our side." That was in '45. "You should 
be on our side. We will support religion." And the Minister of Interior 
Affairs, Teohari Georgescu, an old Communist, made big crosses and 
kissed the icons. We have seen that. And priests believed them ; 4,000 
priests and pastors cheered the Communist Prime Minister. There 
was only one pastor out of the 4,000 who protested there on the spot. 
One pastor out of 4,000. This one went to prison. You have him before 
you today. 

Everywhere the Communists, until they have the power, say that 
they are the friends of religion. 

Now I will show you what they do after they come to power. I have 
here hundreds of documents. I wUl not show them all. I have chosen 
only those of '67 and the latest days of '66, but I have also about '65 
and '64, and before. 



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First of all, two doctrinal statements. On the 12th of January '67, 
in the Pravda. That was a few days before Podgorny saw the Pope: 

In true accord with Leninist traditions our party is continuously giving great 
attention to the problems of atheism. The fight against religious remn ants is not 
in the nature of a campaign of an isolated or self-sufficient event. Rather, it is an 
inseparable part of the entire ideological activity of the party organization. The 
party orients all its organization and its ideological institutions towards aggres- 
sive, atheistic activity. 

The party journal, Communist of the Armed Forces, from February 
'67, writes: 

Religion and scientific communism can have nothing in common nor be related 
to each other, as was proved by scholars of Marxism-Leninism. In the future 
all the forms of religion will be thrown on the rubbish heap of history. 

"All forms of religion," also this form of religion which collaborates 
with communism. 

This is the doctrinal statements. Now I will give you the cases of 
sentencing of Christians. Here is the newspaper. I will submit it to you. 

Bakinsky Rabotshii (Worker of Baku), a Russian Communist news- 
paper of the 20th of February '67, an article called, "The Fanatics 
Should Not Put Hands On Children." They describe in it a demonstra- 
tive trial in Mir Bashir. A demonstrative trial is not held in a court- 
room, but in a great auditorium. They compel hundreds of workers 
from all factories and students to attend. You must be there. You must 
boo the accused ones. The accused one in this case is Vassily Romanov 
of Armenian origin. His crime, the newspaper says, is that he has 
won many children and youths for Christ. He preached about the 
Last Judgment and the approaching coming of Christ. His worst 
crime is that he said, "We must love our enemies." That is a crime. 

My son studied in a Communist school. Do you know how in the 
elementary classes he was taught arithmetic? "If from 22 Americans 
you have shot 18, how many remain?" Therefore, they have to oppose 
the teaching of love to our enemies, 

Romanov has been judged according to article 141 of the Criminal 
Code of the Soviet Republic of Azerbaijan, an article which exists in 
'67. And the American Communists say there exists no law to forbid 
to a man religion, to forbid to a man to speak about Christ. 

You will see immediately other articles. 

This Romanov has shown to children the religious films which 
were smuggled in. The missionary organization to which I belong 
works also at bringing in secretly religious films in Communist coun- 
tries. Romanov has taught children to become soulwinners and to 
spread in school religious poems written by hand. 

Then the article says, "We are patient towards religious sects, as 
long as they do not touch our youth." They don't mind an old woman 
of 70 to believe. 

The newspaper saith further that the Adventist children don't wish 
to attend school on Saturday. Children win each other for Christ, and 
the pupil Alexander Zhukov, under the influence of Christianity, 
refused to carry the Red flag. 

Our youth does not carry tne Red flag, knowing that it is stained 
in the blood of Christians. That is how our youth reacts. 

I can't express admiration enough for our youth. With us in a school 
the professor told that man is from the ape. Then he asks the pupils, 
"What do you think about it?" Up stood a young girl and said, "Com- 



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rade Professor, I am thankful for what you have taught us today. I 
always wondered how it is that the Communists are so bad. Now you 
have explained it to me. They are from the apes." 

Pravda Vostoka ( Truth oj the East) , another Communist paper, of the 
22d October '66. The title of the article is, "You Are Not Judged For 
Your Faith, Hrapov." 

No, he is not judged for his faith. In the beginning of the article 
the reporter says, "I have spoken with the accused one. He said that 
he suffers for his faith. It is not so." And now the reporter says why 
Hrapov suffers. Hrapov, Bohn, Hartfeld, a Jew, and others were 
members in Tashkent of an unofficial Baptist church. These are the 
Baptists who don't wish to compromise with communism. They gave 
out a secret reUgious magazine called The Herald oj Salvation. Now 
these accused ones are charged that they have spread the foUo\ving 
criminal sentences in this magazine. "The resurrected God wishes to 
free us all of the slavery of dependence upon the world." "Every friend- 
ship of the world is spiritual prostitution." 

Hrapov organized the Brotherly Fellowship of Christian Youth, 
something like your YMCA. He had secret a printing press for Chris- 
tian hterature. And the children under his influence refused to wear 
the red neckties. That is what the Soviet press saith on the 22d of 
October 1966. 

I present to you the pictures. From Pravda Ukrainy of the 4 October 
'66. It is the picture of one of the greatest heroes of the Christian faith 
in Russia, Prokofiev. He has been already thrice in prison for running 
secret Sunday schools for children. He was released. He resumed his 
activity. And now together with others he is before court again. 

Sovetskaya Rossiya of the 23d of August 1966. "Put a Stop To This." 
That is the title of the article. They describe a trial in Rostov-on-Don. 
The accused ones are charged that they organized a religious demon- 
stration on the streets on the 2d of May '66, and that at that date, 
they baptized 40 boys and girls. What a horror. To baptize boys and 
girls! They had also a secret printing press. 

The Communist newspaper says, "Lays on the conscience of the 
accused ones the organization of Sunday school for children in which 
children aged 8 and 11 were taught the word of God. They are judged 
on basis of article 142 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Republic." 

Now whom should I believe? Mr. Aptheker or the Russian press? 
Who knows communism better? The Communist Party of America 
says that there exist no laws against religion in the Soviet Union, and 
I have given you already proofs about sentences on the basis of article 
141. Now we have article 142. "The six were sentenced to different 
terms," says the newspaper. It doesn't say what terms. It may be 
20 years. 

They have baptized 40 boys and girls, among them a student in 
medicine, a student in engineering, members of the Communist 
Youth. The Communist paper says that the witnesses of the defense 
who were called before court, "had a fanatic attitude." 

In the secret literature spread to the youth, they called to active 

Propaganda of reUgious conceptions, and they said, "Take in your 
ands the spiritual sword, the word of God." 

They say the Baptist books are dangerous. One phrase which is 
incriminated is "Take children to burials, that they may see that it 
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I must say, I have been converted to Christianity by going through 
cemeteries. I asked myself once I will be dead. Snow will fall upon 
my grave. Here I have political and all kinds of other ideals and I 
wish to have money and I wish to have girls, and everything will 
finish once with a corpse in a tomb. Then I saw a party which can 
give eternal life. I have found the party of Christ. 

WeU, these are the crimes for which you are put in prison in Russia. 
The leader of the underground church is an engineer. We have in it 
Russian intellectuahty, we have students, engineers. They teach 
children to read the Bible. But afterwards these children tear down 
their red neckties. 

The Herald oj Salvation, which must have a very large circulation, 
although it is illegal, teaches mothers to give antidotes against mate- 
rialism. Under the influence of this magazine a child says, "The 
atheists are our enemies." The Communists say that the spirit of 
religious education is antisocial. 

Here is another newspaper. Pravda Ukrainy of the 12th July '66. 
The title of the article is, "They Received As They Deserved." 
Again a demonstrative trial in the town of Nikolayev against 
Zaitshenko, Maria Yakimenko, and others. The names of these 
martyrs should be on the lips of all Christians here. We know about 
St. Therese and St. Basil and St. Martin of hundreds of years ago, 
and the martyrs of today are never mentioned. 

I said to one of the biggest American church leaders, "Here I have 
in my pocket the list of 150 Protestant pastors who have recently 
been deported to Siberia. Not all have arrived. Some have died under 
tortures." He didn't ask for the list. When I asked him, "But don't 
you wash to have them on your prayer list? How is it that you don't 
ask me for this list? What are you doing?" he still didn't ask me for 
this list. 

Those last mentioned by me were sentenced to 5 years of prison. 
They were Pentecostals. 

Pravda Ukrainy, of the 4th October '66. There is an article called 
"The Law Is Written For Everyone." Tried in Kiev, Bundarenko, 
Velitchko, Overtshuk, and others on the basis of article 138 of the 
Code of the Ukrainian Republic. So every republic has an article 
against religion in their law. They have many republics. 

The accused ones are charged to have said: "Submitting itself to 
human regulations, the church loses God's blessings." "The official 
leadership of the Baptist Church submits itself to the Communists." 
"In our days, Satan dictates and the church accepts all kinds of 
decisions which contradict the commandment of God." They forbade 
the atheistic burial of a Christian child. They said the youth must 
gather around Christ. They got 2 to 3 years' prison with severe regime. 

The last sentence of the article in the newspaper is, "In our country, 
nobody is judged for his religious convictions. But nobody has a right 
to contravene the Soviet law." 

That is their line. They say that this Hrapov and others have done 
nothing else than to spread the religion. Oh, religion is free, but you 
are not allowed to break the law. And the law says that you are not 
allowed to spread religion. 

If they can lie like this in an article in Russia, the lies of the Com- 
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Sovetskaya Rossiya of the 22d of November '66. Trial against three 
ladies, also for have taught children. Children even fled from home 
and attended Sunday schools. And the children said to their mothers, 
"If you don't allow me to go there, I will leave home." 

I myself have had in Rumania a beautiful case of a young girl 
who attended our secret Sunday schools. Then her parents forbade it. 
She said, "If you forbid me, I wiU not eat anymore." And three days 
she hungered. Then the parents, afraid, said, "Go, but eat." It was 
their only daughter. She said, "No, I will not go until you come with 
me," and she brought the parents, too, to Christ. 

In the Communist camp, the children fight for Christ. The Com- 
munists boast in this article that they have put in prison these three 
ladies. 

In America, church leaders have contested even that an under- 
ground church exists. 

Now here is an undergroimd leaflet printed in the secret printing 
press in Russia [showing leaflet] . In Russia there exists secret printing 
presses, secret Sunday schools, so there exists surely an underground 
church. I asked myself, "If such a powerful underground church exists 
about which the Soviet press writes, and there are a hundred other 
articles about it — I don't wish to take your time — why is the underr 
ground church not represented in the Worid Council of Churches? 
Why is the underground church never invited to send representatives 
here in America? Metropolitan Nikolai comes and others. They should 
be welcome. I love every man. But why are the heroes of the under- 
ground church never invited? And even when one member of this 
church came, some of your American church leaders wish him to be 
silent. As for me, I have not been silent in Communist prisons and I 
wdll not be silent here. 

These are the facts about sentencing Christians. I have published 
a book, Today's Martyred Church, Tortured for ' Christ with facts 
about persecution taken from the Soviet press. And in my second 
book, Wurmbrand's Letters there will be other facts taken from the 
same source. Anyone can write to me at Post Office Box 11, Glendale, 
California 91209, and I will keep hiin informed about the facts. Then 
there will be no doubts more. 

Mr. Tuck. We will take a 5-ininute recess. 

(Members present at time of recess: Representatives Tuck, Willis, 
and Roudebush, of the subconmuttee and also Representatives Ash- 
brook and Clawson.) 

(A brief recess was taken.) 

(Members present at reconvening: Representatives Tuck and 
Roudebush, of the subcommittee, and also Representative Clawson.) 

Mr. Tuck. The conMnittee will please come to order. 

You may proceed. 

Mr. Smith. You may proceed with your presentation, Mr. Wurm- 
brand. 

Mr. WuRMBRAND. Now, these facts about sentencing of Christians, 
I think, would be enough. If anybody wishes to know how the arrested 
Christians are treated, I would tell them to come to me, and I will 
show them my body. 

Christ when he was not believed by St. Thomas simply undressed 
himself. I don't boast about the scars which I have. They are not 



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mine; they are signs of the torturing of my fatherland and of my 
church. 

The Communist camp gives martyrs every year. Hmarof Kulunda 
has been only 3 months in prison. His corpse has been given back to 
his family. He had burnings, at hands and feet. The lower part of the 
beUy was split, and he had bruises over his whole body. 

Here I show you the picture of the prison of Kazan, where many 
Christian prisoners are kept. And here is the island of Novaya Zemlya. 

I often wondered how it is that poor Russia can compete with Amer- 
ica in making missiles and rockets. I could not compete with Rocke- 
feller; how can they compete? 

Very simply, they work with slave labor. To an engineer, you have 
to pay $20,000 or $30,000. They would arrest him. Then he works 
without wages. He is beaten and tortured. And in the island Novaya 
Zemlya, Christian prisoners are working on rockets and missiles. 

This is the picture of Marshal Warenzoff , who was at the head of the 
slave labor for producing missiles. 

I spoke about prison, and to be in prison is bad, but there comes a 
much bigger tragedy than being put in prison. I will show you what 
the Soviet press says about children taken away from their parents. 
I know what this has meant for me. 

BeUeve me, that in winter, I pressed my bare breast to the icy iron 
bars to quench the fire of longing after my child. I know what it means, 
not to see your children during years. 

And now, I have here Znamya Yunosti, a Moscow newspaper, of the 
29th March '67. They tell the case of Mrs. Antonina Ivanovna 
Sitsh. The court in Kaliningrad deprived her of parental rights and 
took away her son Vsetsheslav because she told this son to witness for 
Christ in school, and, as often as atheistic movie pictures were shown, 
to keep his eyes closed, not to look at this dirt, something which I 
would recommend also to American children, when sometimes dirt is 
shown at the TV. 

For his Christian attitude, Vsetsheslav was taken away from his 
mother. Now, the newspaper says that this Mrs. Sitsh committed a 
second crime. Not only that she taught her children Christianity, but 
she has stolen her child from the atheistic boarding school and has 
sent him to the town of Vitebsk, to brethren in faith. 

But there he was discovered, because in school again he witnessed 
for Christ. He was taken back. With the compUcity of somebody of the 
staff of the atheistic boarding school, the mother smuggled in to him 
a notebook with Bible verses in miniature. 

And now her second child, Leonid, at the age of 8, knowing that 
the brother has been taken away from mummie, has also said to his 
teacher: "I pity you. You will go to hell because you don't believe." 
And he tore down the red star from the wall. 

Here is the tragical case of Kolya Sviridov. That is a child of the 
age of 9. At this age he showed already an exceptional religiosity. As 
it appears from the article, he seems to be of the old royal family of 
Russia. 

Because of his exceptional religiosity, he was taken away from his 
mother, but in the atheistic boarding school, he continued to pray, 
so they have given him in the hands of Captain Hutorin of the Com- 
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The officer of the Communist secret poUce determined the child to 
say, "There are no gods." But Komsomolskaya Pravda of the 22d of 
May '66 is not sure what the child meant, because the child has been 
told about mythology, that there existed gods of gold and of marble. 
Perhaps he meant them. He didn't say that he does not believe in God. 

When his mother was allowed to see him, he asked: "Who is this 
woman?" He didn't know any more. 

Imagine what this child has passed through! At the age of 9, he 
has already myocarditis. And here in America, the lie is spread that 
there is religious liberty ui the Soviet camp. 

This picture is from DoshkoVnoye Vospitaniye of March 1966. 
The secret poUce has entered in a house and has siezed four children 
in the attitude of prayer. They publish it. The children wUl be taken 
away from their mothers. 

Here is a picture of the trial of Makrinkova. Six children have 
been taken away from her. Who can imagine what suffering this means? 

I have known mothers from whom their children have been taken 
away. In a house which has been full with the noise, with the laughter, 
with the kicking of children, now there is a great silence of God. 

I have seen these mothers; they were like bits of stone. You could 
not speak with them. 

Six children taken away, and that is called "reUgious liberty," 
even by some Western church leaders. 

Here is Ogonyok, a Moscow magazine. Lazarev has run a secret 
Sunday school in this little hut pictured here [showing picture]. For 
this, he has to respond. 

I could give you many such facts. I have chosen just a few about 
depriving parents of parental rights. 

Here about the Bible: "The Bible is a poison." It is not allowed. 
Here is Trud, a Moscow newspaper, of the 6th of July 1966. They give 
the picture of hundreds of coi^scated Bibles. They say it always: 
"We win not allow our people to be poisoned." In this article, they 
accuse Mr. Murray, who is one of the directors of the British European 
Christian Mission and of the American Mission to Europe's Millions, 
to which I belong, too. 

They accused him truthfuUy that he tried to bring these Bibles into 
Russia. 

Here is a handwritten Bible in Lithuanian. They write it by hand. 
They have no printed ones. [Shows pictures.] 

There exists in Moscow a Catholic Church. De Gaulle has been 
there. He goes to many places. In this church he could have read this 
catechism. [Shows catechism.] The catechism is mimeographed. They 
have no printed catechism in the church of Moscow. 

Here is another story from Ogonyok, the Russian magazine, the 
story of a Mrs. Persis, put in prison because secretly she has produced 
candles and icons. 

Now, I myself am Protestant. We don't use icons, but I consider 
it is a crime to put somebody in prison because he believes in an 
icon and makes an icon. In Russia, for this he is put in prison. That is 
the "religious liberty" as proved from the Soviet press. 

Now, in matters of communism, who knows communism better? 
Pravda, Kosygin, or Mr. Aptheker, the theoretician of the American 
Communist Party? Who of these should I believe? Aptheker should go 
to Mr. Kosygin, and they should convene what they should say. 



534 THE NEW COMMUNIST PROPAGANDA LESTE ON RELIGION 

It is said that witnesses were brought against Jesus at the trial, 
but what one witness said did not correspond with the other witness. 
I would recommend to the Communists, when they wash to lie, they 
should come together and convene how to lie. 

They say, every one, another lie. The American Communists speak 
about religious liberty in Kussia, but are disowned by their Russian 
comrades. 

Now about closing of churches. My own church in Bucharest is a 
theater now. My church, the Rumanian Lutheran Church in Bucha- 
rest, the former building of the British Church Mission, is a theater. 
Only a pastor can know — you love your church as you love a child — 
what this means. 

But that is an assertion of mme. Now the proofs. 

Sovetskaya Moldavia of the 13th of August 1966! I speak now with a 
little bit of national pride. You know what Moldavia is. That is a part 
of Rumania which the Russians have stolen from us, our Bessarabia. 

This is one of the parts of the Soviet Union where the underground 
church is the most powerful. They could take away our province; 
they could not eradicate the religion. Here is the article entitled 
"Where the Bells Rang." 

The article is of 13 August 1966. They say about closing the chiu-ches 
in Nikolayev, in the province of Orhei and the church of Floreshti, 
in the village of Cretzoaia and others. They have made of some of these 
churches dispensaries; of others, schools; of others, dancing clubs. They 
say it. 

Here are pictures of different churches which are now museums. 

That is the Church of the Robe of the Virgin Mary. That is the 
Cathedral of the Annunciation — a museum. That is also another 
picture of this same cathedral. [Shows pictures.] 

Here is the new church at Klaipeda, completed in 1960. The steeple 
has been torn down, and the church is used as a concert hall. The 
Vilna cathedral is now an art gallery. And here we have a picture of a 
concert in this art gallery. 

The Jesuit church and monastery at Kaunas is now a warehouse. 
And if you wish to see churches that are open — please see a Lutheran 
Church, if you Uke it. It is with grass as a roof. [Shows picture.] 

And thej^ say, "We have churches." Here you can see it. Who hkes 
to worship in such a church? 

Mr. Tuck. File these. 

Mr. WuRMBRAND. Ycs, they will aU be in. 

Mr. RouDEBUSH. Reverend Wurm brand, you did mention some 
churches being opened. You mentioned the Catholic parish where 
General de Gaulle worshipped in Leningrad, I believe. 

Mr. WuRMBRAND. He was at a church. 

Mr. RouDEBusH. Do you know of any bona fide chur':^h leaders, 
outside of those in the underground church, in the Communist world? 
Do you know of any sincere religious leaders outside of the under- 
ground? 

Mr. WuRMBRAND. Ycs. I mysclf am a Protestant, but I love truth 
more as Protestantism. I must pay my homage, first of all, to Cardinal 
Wyszynski of Poland. He has been in prison and he continues to oppose 
communism. 

There exist such official church leaders, too. There are some of the 
Eastern German Lutheran bishops who are in this situation, the same 



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isolated cases of Rumanian official Baptist pastors. But, as a general 
rule, the leadersliip of the churches is entirely controlled by the 
Communists, and I will give you immediately the proofs of this. 

Mr. RouDEBUSH. But this is not 100 percent true? There are some 
genuine leaders? 

Mr. WuRMBRAND. There are some; yes. 

Mr. RouDEBUSH. Who are dedicated to Christ? 

Mr. WuRMBRAND. Ycs, exceptionally. As a rule, it is otherwise. 
When you tell me in America that a man is a pastor of the Lutheran 
Church, then I know that he has made a seminary. You must not 
specify it to me. Otherwise, he couldn't be a pastor. 

If you tell me that somebody is an official pastor in a Rumanian or a 
Russian church, I know that he is an informer of the Communist 
authorities. Without this, you can't be. 

On Sunday you preach. On Monday you can be called to the so- 
called representative of the Government Council for the Affairs of the 
ReHgious Cults, and you are obliged to answer the questions: "Who 
has been in your church?" They don't care about those old ones. 
"What youth has been in church?" "Who is a soulwinner?" If they 
have confessed something, "What they have confessed?" "Who is 
zealous in prayer?" "What are their political attitudes?" 

You have to say all this. 

Now, there are some who try to say the minimum possible and to 
mislead the Communist authorities. There are such ones. There are 
some who say what happens, and there are some who have the passion 
to say more than happens. It has become a passion with them. 

So in this sense, there is a difference. 

The underground church is also infiltrated by the Communist 
secret poHce, but we infiltrate the Communist secret police, too. 

Members of the underground church become officers of the secret 
pohce. Members of the underground church become leaders in the 
official church and tell us what happens there. These are very sincere 
Christians. 

Now I have presented to you the facts about what is happening in 
the Communist camp. 

Now, who are the official church leaders? 

Karev is the general secretary of the Russian Baptists. He publishes 
in Soviet Life of June 1963: "The Baptist parents have the right to 
raise their children in the spirit of faith." 

Now, should I believe Karev? Or should I believe this, what the 
Soviet newspapers say, that children are taken away from their 
parents if these give them religious education? 

The Orthodox Metropolitan Pimen called Svetlana Stalina a Judas 
Iscariot, because she defected. These church leaders are stooges of the 
Communists. 

M. Orlov, second chairman of the All-Union Council of the Union 
of Evangehcal Christian Baptists, has said : 

"The Evangelical Christian Baptists as weU as all other Christians 
of the Soviet Union are thankful and praise God that the Soviet 
Government during the course of the past 40 years has acted accord- 
ing to the high ideals precious to Christianity, for these are also the 
ideals inherent in the Gospel." 



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So, the Soviet Government acted according to the high ideals of 
Christianity when it stole the Baltic countries, half of Poland, Bessara- 
bia. It acted according to the high ideals of Christianity when it 
invaded Hungary. It acted according to the Gospel when, under 
Stalin, it kUled millions of innocent men. The Baptist Oriov subscribes 
to all the horrors of aU these years. 

Another declaration of this so-caUed Baptist leader: "We deeply 
respect our Soviet Government, which has given us rehgious freedom 
and protects it from any violation whatever. In our country aU 
churches and rehgions enjoy an equal and complete freedom." 

These would be the main facts about Russia which I had to give 
you. If you wish, I can continue during hours, but 

Mr. Smith. I think that will be enough. We will accept the rest of 
them for the record. 

Mr. Tuck. We will accept the rest of them as exhibits into the 
record. 

Mr. WuRMBRAND. I have presented many other documents, sir. 

Mr. Smith. Reverend Wurmbrand, Roger Garaudy, the theoretician 
of the Communist Party of France, is quoted in Look magazine of 
May 2, 1967, at page 36, as having made this statement during his 
lectures in the United States on the dialogue between Christians and 
Communists : 

"We [Communists] are told, 'You offer your hand when you are not 
in power and your fist when you are in power.' At the beginning, 
Marxism arrived in countries where Christianity was reactionary and 
was battled against as a poUtical party and not as a rehgion. This 
fear of persecution has been spread by elements that are pohtical and 
not rehgious." 

Based on your experience, what comment could you make about this 
statement? 

Mr. Wurmbrand. First of all, in the articles which I liave pre- 
sented to you, ttie Communists don't bring any political accusation 
against those whom they have put in prison. 

They say they have spread only religion. They don't accuse this 
Mrs. Sitsh that she had said any counterrevolutionary words to her 
child. She has taught him the Gospel. 

So they say they put men in prison for exclusively religious motives. 
But even if what Mr. Garaudy saith would be true, he gains nothing. 
It is a crime also to persecute somebody for political motives. 

They put in prison not only counterrevolutionaries, but Com- 
munists, too. 

I have been in a prison with the Communist leader of Rumania, 
Patrashcanu, who brought communism to power in Rumania. He 
has been in the same cell with me and has been so tortured untU he 
became mad. And then he was shot. 

Ana Pauker, VasUe Luca, and other Communist leaders have been 
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They have put in prison those who brought them to power. I 
would suggest to Mr. Gus Hall and to Mr. Aptheker and to other 
American Communists, they should go to a church and pray to God, 
in whom they don't believe, that communism should never come to 
power in America, because as long as they have capitalism in America, 
they are free. 

If commimism comes to power, they are shot. In Russia, in Ru- 
mania, in Bulgaria, the Communists have killed the Communist 
leaders. 

In Bulgaria, Kostov has been hanged. In Hungary, Rajk has 
been hanged. 

With us, Ana Pauker has been put in prison. Trotsky, Zinoviev, 
and so on, they kill each other. 

It is a religion of hate. 

Now, about this question of dialogue. I myself am all for a dialogue. 
First of all, the Communists should go to the other world and have a 
dialogue \\dth the bishops and Christians whom they have killed. 
That would be a very interesting dialogue. 

With us, nearly all the Catholic bishops have been killed under 
tortures. Two or three, perhaps, have escaped. 

Bishop Aftenie died in an asylum for the insane. I have known 
him before. He was not insane. He has become insane under tortures. 

Bishop Durkowitz, I have known him myself, also. CathoUcs said 
about him that the touching of his garment healed. This man has 
been killed in prison. 

So they should go to heaven and have a dialogue there with those 
whom they have killed and continue to kill now, Protestants and 
Catholics and Orthodox. 

In Red China, thousands of Christians are killed now. The Red 
Guards, who frog-marched diplomats on the street, where everybody 
sees, have cut, in Chinese jaUs, the ears and tongues and the legs of 
Christian prisoners, if they did not deny Christ. 

One about whom it is said that he has passed through this ordeal 
is a reno^^^led Chinese Evangelical Christian, the writer. Watchman 
Nee, and they should go and have a dialogue with him. That would 
be the right kind of dialogue. 

If somebody attacks you, you have to fight. If the microbe attacks 
me, I have to fight against it. 

Do the Communists accept this peace? 

Here is Kazakstanskaia Pravda of the 4th of March 1967. The title 
of the article is "The School of the IrreconcUables." Under this title, 
they describe the Institute of Scientific Atheism, in Alma-Ata, where 
they are taught "never reconcihation, never peace with Christianity." 

Now, you can't make peace only onesided. The gangster is against 
me with a rifle, and I am for peace. But if he doesn't put his rifle 
down, then I have to fight against him, and to do something. 

Some people say: "We will not fight." But the Communists, from 
their side, fight. 

Here I have the index of all works which have appeared in Moscow 
against religion. January '67, so many books against religion. Feb- 
ruary '67, other books against religion. March '67, AprU '67, May '67. 
And from Semia I Shkola of January '67: "All the clergy is illiterate 
and dishonest." This, they say in Russia. 



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And here they say to the clergy: "Please come and discuss with us, 
and we will be good friends." 

I can't understand how this happens. I don't know how you will 
think about it. But when Suharto came to power in Indonesia, many 
hundreds of thousands of Communists have been killed. 

I have publicly protested in the press against this. I said: "1 have 
suffered under the Communists, but I can't admit that an unjudged 
man should be kUled, whatever he has done. A rebel can't be killed 
before he is judged." I protested against this. 

And now there are Christians who know that their brethren in 
faith are martyrized. They can have aU these documents. I am a 
poor man and I could afford to have these translations. They can 
also have translators to translate all these things. 

They can know them and they should be on the side of their 
brethren. And they should say to Mr. Garaudy and to Aptheker and to 
the other Communists: "You wish a dialogue? You go first to Moscow, 
to Peking, to Bucharest and dialogue with your own comrades and 
say that they should release all the Christian prisoners and that they 
should give the children back to their parents." 

Kosygin has asked here that Israel should give back Jerusalem to 
the Arabs. I have read in the Bible that the whole of Jerusalem belongs 
to Israel. He says that the Israelians should give back the conquered 
territories. 

Why does he not give some up? He has taken Lithuania, Latvia, 
Bessarabia, Hungary. Why does he not give them back? And why does 
he not give back the children that they have taken away to their 
parents? 

It is a lie, this dialogue. And because there is an increase of interest 
in this dialogue, I wish to say that at a session of the World Council 
of Churches in Geneva, Archpriest Borovoi of Russia said these very 
words, that Russia is an example of "happy collaboration" between 
the Communist revolution and Christians. 

Then I wrote to a leader of the World Council of Churches and 
said: "I can subscribe to what Borovoi has said. We collaborated 
very happily. We gave our backs, and they gave the whips. We gave 
our liberties, and they gave the jails. We gave our children, and 
they had the joy to bring them up in the atheistic manner. We gave 
our necks, and they gave the buUets for them. That has been the 
collaboration." 

In this whole World Council of Churches, there has not been one 
man to slap this Borovoi. 

At the Council in Nicaea, when Arius said that Jesus is not God, 
St. Nikolai stood up and slapped him for saying this. And the legend 
of the Orthodox says that the Virgin Mary appeared and put on him 
his bishop's garments, proving there are certain cases where you 
can't react otherwise. 

Nobody booed Borovoi. 

And when Archbishop Nikodim said that there is full religious 
liberty in Russia, although his comrades from the Soviet press say 
that it is not true, one of the biggest American church leaders went 
and kissed him. 

Now what should I say about these things? I must say that I suffer 
in America more than I have suffered in Communist prisons. 



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In Communist prisons I was with Jesus. I forgot that communism 
existed. When a child has died, after a year or two the scar closes 
somehow, and you are no more so sad. But when you see a child 
dying, then it is horrible. 

Rumania, its independence has died already. But here in America, 
I see this infiltration, this spreading of lies, youths believing them. 
And I have wept more tears since I am in your rich America than 
I have wept in 14 years of prison. 

I was in the house of an American millionaire. I had never seen 
an American millionaire, how he looks like. I find that he looks just 
like any other man. 

He invited me in his home. It was a beautiful home. I, who have 
never had in my life a bicycle, was now in a rich home and had coco- 
nut pie before me. 

I began to weep. He asked me: "Why do you weep?" I said: "Be- 
cause of your children! They are playing there with toys on the carpet. 
I had a vision for a moment that they will be beaten at the bottom 
of the feet, as I have been beaten at the bottom of the feet, if you 
will not defend yourself against this horrible He of communism." 

I have given you facts. And again I call leaders of the Communist 
Party and leaders of churches who say that there is a religious liberty 
there; they should come and contradict these, my documents. They 
should come before television, wherever they like. I will come to debate, 
and they should prove that these documents are not true. They 
can't be contradicted. 

(At this point Mr. Clawson left the hearing room.) 

Mr. Smith. Reverend Wurmbrand, the new draft program of the 
Communist Party, U.S.A., published in 1966, makes the following 
statement: "Full freedom of conscience and worship will be guaranteed 
in a socialist United States." 

Do you have any factual knowledge bearing on the truth or falsity 
of this statement? 

Mr. Wurmbrand. First of all, wherever the Communists were in 
opposition, they have always said this. 

Lenin had taken the defense of the Protestant sectarians in Russia, 
until he came to power. 

In Rumania, they have done also this. 

Now, if they have done this everyw^here and then, when they came 
to power, they oppressed the Christians, this does not mean that the 
American Communists will also do this. But we wish from them a 
proof of sincerity. 

Are they against the persecution? And the clergymen who sustain 
that in Russia there is liberty, are they sincerely against the persecu- 
tion? 

Then I would propose to them something. I have seen once men 
picketing before the White House. I went there and I introduced 
myself. I told them my story, and I said : 

"If you have something against Johnson, I am not for him and I 
am not against him — I have nothing to do with your American 
politics. You picket him as much as you like. But you are clergymen, 
and you are Christians. Come and picket with me the Soviet Embassy." 

They should prove. They should give the proof that they are against 
religious persecution, taking an attitude against the Soviet Govern- 
ment, against the Chinese Government, against the Rumanian 
Government. 



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And they should say: "We are against you. We are your enemies, 
because you persecute the Christians, and we have declared here 
publicly that we love the Christians and wish dialogue and friendship 
with them. Those who persecute our friends are not our comrades. 
Out with you!" 

If they will say this to Kosygin and the rest, then I will believe 
them, that really there has been a change of position. 

If not, I can't see sense in their statements. 

Mr. Smith. Do you know of any persons recently arrested in Ru- 
mania because of their religious faith? 

Mr. WuRMBRAND. Oh, yes, I can give you the names: Ghelbegeanu, 
Alexandru, Gabrielescu, Balautza, Janos, Irina, Istvan, and many 
others. 

Mr. Smith. What were the charges? 

Mr. WuRMBRAND. The last ones were arrested some 2 months ago. 

Mr. Smith. Are these people in prison? 

Mr. WuRMBRAND. Yes, many of them are in prison now. We don't 
know exactly the number. But it is considered that something like 
200 Greek CathoUc priests are in prison. The same for many of other 
religions. 

Mr. Smith. What was the nature of the charges brought against 
them? 

Mr. WuRMBRAND. There is a difference between Rumania and 
Russia. In Russia the Communists usually acknowledge that it is for 
religious motives. With us, they very rarely say this. The real motive 
is teaching of children and youths about Christ. 

But the charges brought before court are sometimes "theft," which 
consists in the following. 

With us the finances of the church are under the control of the 
state. If there has been a church offering, you, the pastor, have to 
report to the government that on this Sunday the offering has been 
so much. 

It goes to the national bank, and you as the pastor are allowed to 
use this money only with the approval of the Communist authorities. 

Now, these approve only a minimal salary for pastors. My salary 
when I left Rumania was $28 a month. I think it is not very much — 
$28 a month.' 

They don't permit any charitable work. In Russia and Rumania 
there exists not one private philanthropic organization. Imagine a 
government which forbids a philanthropic organization. I and you 
and he, we are not allowed to give everyone $10 and to care for some 
children or for some old men. You are not allowed to use the offerings 
for church repairs, and so on. 

So some pastors have said that church funds belong to the church 
and, wdthout asking the Communist government, they have used 
this money for church purposes. For this they are considered as 
"thieves." 

Others are in prison for speculation. Only the government is allowed 
to make commerce, but the government doesn't sell Bibles, doesn't 
sell prayer books, doesn't sell such things. So a priest has to sell them, 
or a pastor. 

If he has sold, they say: "Oh, we don't put you in prison for religion, 
but you have broken the law against illicit commerce." 

Against the CathoUc priests, very often the accusation of sexual 
offenses is used if girls come to confess to them. Lies are said, and 



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they are put in prison. Others are accused of currency offenses or 
counterrevohitionary activity. 

Mr. Smith. Reverend Wurm brand, you mentioned a while ago the 
fact that there was an underground church in Rumania 

Mr. WURMBRAND. YcS. 

Mr. Smith. — and in Russia. Would you care to comment a little 
further on that and tell us how they worship, how they conduct their 
services? 

Mr. WuRMBRAND. About the underground church in Russia, I 
have given you many facts. 

In Rumania there are three major organizations of the underground 
church. There exists an Orthodox underground. We are in very good 
relationship with each other. There exists an Orthodox underground, 
"Oastea Domnului," which means in English "The Army of the 
Lord." It is something like your Salvation Army. It is considered a 
forbidden secret organization. 

The Communists say that it has 300,000 adult members. When 
they announced a secret meeting, 6,000 farmers came to a secret 
meeting. You can't arrest 6,000. 

The poUce came, arrested just a few leaders. When the leaders 
were judged before court, my wife was there. Farmers from the whole 
country surrounded the court. And when the prisoners were brought 
in, they began to cry: "We have committed the same crime. We 
believe like them. Arrest us, too." 

You can't arrest a whole country. With us, nobody is on the side 
of the Communists. Men are rather on the side of Christ. 

We have a second, a Baptist underground. They are called The 
Awakened. 

There exists a Presbyterian underground. They are caUed Bethanists, 
something Uke your Christian Endeavor here. They have passed and 
pass through prisons. 

One of the leaders of the Bethanists has been sentenced to many 
years of prison for the following crime. 

He preached on a Sunday about a Bible verse, in St. John 21 in 
w^hich Jesus says: "Throw your nets on the right side." 

The next day there was a secret poUce officer, who said: "How did 
you dare to say that nets should be thrown on the right side, on the 
side of imperialists, and not on the left side?" The pastor went to 
prison. 

Here many Unitarian pastors are of the left wing. With us. Unitarian 
pastors are in prison. A Unitarian pastor, a friend of mine, was put 
in prison because he preached on a Christmas Eve that when Jesus 
was a little child, Herod wished to kiU Him, but His holy mother fled 
with him to Egypt and there he was concealed. 

The pastor was brought before the court and told: "You meant us. 
You wished to say that we, the Communists, like Herod, kiUed the 
Christians and that you hope in the end, Nasser will pass to your 
side. Therefore, you mentioned Egypt." 

Notwithstanding all this terror in the Communist camp, now being 
often in your cathedrals, I long for the beauties of the underground 
church behind the Iron Curtain. 

When we meet sometimes in a wood, the vault of heaven is the vault 
of our cathedral. We are like the CathoUcs. We would not worship 
without incense. The smell of flowers is our incense. The chirping of 



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birds is our organ. The shabby suit on a pastor who has recently been 
released from prison, shines on him like the robes of a priest. And when 
the evening comes, then angels are our acolytes and hght, as candles, 
the stars of the skies. The underground church is beautiful. 

Mr. Smith. What is the attitude of Christians when arrested and 
brought before the courts in Russia and Rumania? 

Mr. WuRMBRAND. I wiU tell you a few facts. 

First of all, again to my national pride, Sovetskaya Moldavia, report- 
ing about the Rumanian province of Bessarabia, says that seven boys 
and three girls have been arrested for having publicly sung Christian 
hymns. 

They were brought before the court and sentenced to 5 and 6 years 
of prison. When they received the sentence, they knelt down and said: 
"God, in Thy hands I surrender my spirit." 

And the audience in court — the newspaper saith — began to sing the 
same hymn for which these ones have been arrested. 

At another trial, a Christian prisoner has been asked by the judge: 
"Why do you continue to spread your faith, which is antiscientiiic?" 

So he answered: "Do you Imow more science than Einstein? 
Einstein has given his name to the universe, and he beheved in God 
and in religion, so that is enough for me." 

A judge, again, bagatellized and mocked religion at a trial. 

Five hundred Baptists had been arrested in Moscow for the demon- 
stration on the 16th of May 1966, and when the judge mocked religion, 
then an accused one asked: "Mr. Judge, could you please explain to 
me the following thing? 

"The manure of a cow is like a pancake. That of a horse is another 
form. That of a rabbit is like a little egg. Could you explain to me 
this difference in manure?" 

The judge looked at him and said: "I don't know." 

Then the accused said: "You know nothing about manure and 
you dare to mock about the Bible." 

Mr. Smith. Five hundred Baptists were arrested in Moscow, you 
mentioned. What year was that? 

Mr. WuRMBRAND. May '66. 

Mr. Smith. May 1966? 

Mr. WuRMBRAND. A sccrct leaflet has been smuggled out. Here is 
the secret leaflet in which the Russian Baptists tell what has happened. 
[Shows mimeographed leaflet.] 

They have been beaten on the streets and put in prisons. 

Another demonstration lias been in Kiev and also in Rostov-on- 
Don. 

Now the Communists will celebrate their 50th anniversary of the 
Communist revolution. They don't celebrate their victory. They 
celebrate our victory, because after 50 years the underground church 
has come overground. There are demonstrations on the streets, and 
children tear do\\Ti the red neckties. They confess Christ in baptism. 

We have won the battle, and not they. They have rubber truncheons. 
We have the truth. We have the love, and we have God. 

Mr. Smith. And I take it from what you say that the spirit of 
Christianity is still very much alive with the people, in spite of the 
oppression. 

Mr. WuRMBRAND. Oh, yes, or it could not be explained that in 
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Nobody cares about some little things. If it would not be a big 
thing, this growth of the underground church, they would not be so 
alarmed about it. 

Mr. Smith. How have the prison experiences of Christians affected 
them \vith respect to their religious faith? 

Mr. WuRMBRAND. I Can say as well about myself as about other 
Christians that it has only strengthened our faith. I will give you 
just one example. 

With us a minister has been arrested. His name was — let us say — 
Florescu. It is an imaginary name. I don't give the real name. Even 
under tortures, he did not betray the secrets of the underground 
church. 

Then they brought his son, aged 14, stripped him naked, and began 
to beat him in the presence of the father. The father was a man. I 
wonder if I would have borne it. 

I have been with this man in the same cell after years, and you 
could still see the horror on his face. And at a certain moment he 
could not take any more, and then he cried: "I must teU everything! 
Othermse they will kiU you!" 

And the son said: "Father, don't do me the shame to have a parent 
a traitor, a Judas. Don't betray." 

Then the Communists in furious rage beat him and tortured him 
worse. The father said: "Alexander, I must say everything. Otherwise 
you wall die." 

And the child answered: "Father, if I die, my last words wiU be 
'Jesus and my fatherland.' I can die for them. But don't betray." 

We are, as you know, a very backward country. We don't have 
your techniques. We have no burning of draft cards. We are too back- 
ward for this. 

With us, who loves Jesus, loves fatherland, too, and dies for it. 
Cases like this, we have had many. The Christians have become like 
steel with us. The diamond is nothing else than coal under high 
pressure. The high pressure of communism has changed Christians 
into diamonds. 

Mr. Smith. Reverend Wurmbrand, in view of what you told us, is 
conscientious exemption from mihtary service permitted in Russia? 

Mr. Wurmbrand. Oh, no. In no Communist country. 

Mr. Smith. Your information concerning persecution of Christians 
and other rehgionists in Soviet Russia does not appear to accord with 
information brought back by Courists who have attended church 
services in Moscow and Leningrad. Would you care to say something 
about that? 

Mr. Wurmbrand. What happens? If you go to Moscow, you find 
a packed Baptist church. And they come and they say, "What a 
beautiful service in this Baptist church." Thousands of American 
tourists have seen it, and I dare to assert that this Baptist church in 
Moscow does not exist. They have all had a hallucination. Moscow 
is a town with 7 milhon inhabitants. For 7 miUion inhabitants, there 
exists not a Baptist church. This church is not Baptist. It is Baptist, 
Methodist, Pentecostal, Mormons, Presbyterians, Adventist, all 
together. It is not Baptist. For aU the Protestants of a town of 7 
milHon inhabitants, there is one church. 

Now why does this one church exist? I wonder that one church can 
dupe Americans. I have been in a congregation when a big preacher 



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preached and showed slides of this church and explained the liberties 
there. I am not a very mannered man, so I stood up during the sermon 
and said, "Please show me the sUde of the second Baptist church in 
Moscow." He surely could not. "Please show me the slide of the 
Sunday school for children in this one Baptist church! Please show 
me the youth meeting in this church! In every church of the world 
there exists a table in which you can buy a Bible or something like this. 
Please show me such a table at this church!" 

Don't you see that it is a church for duping? The same, there exists 
one Catholic church. There exists a few Orthodox churches, and so on. 
These are just for duping. There is nothing earnest. The most real 
church is the underground church. The oflBcial church can't satisfy the 
reUgious necessities of the people. 

I love the Russians very much and I feel very bad when people 
speak evil about the Russians. It is never the Russians, it is the 
Bolshevists who oppress the Russians. The Russians have remained 
fundamentally religious. 

Mr. Smith. Recently, a very famous minister in this country con- 
ducted a well-attended religious service in Yugoslavia. Does it not 
appear from this fact that religious freedom exists in Yugoslavia? 
What comment would you care to make on that? 

Mr. WuRMBRAND. It depends on what he preached. The Gospel has 
two sides. The one side is the proclamation of the Kingdom of God, 
and the other is the criticism of sin. Now Herod would not have 
beheaded John the Baptist because he said, "Repent, the Kingdom of 
Heaven is near." He beheaded him when he said, "You, Herod, are 
bad." Jesus was not crucified for the Sermon on the Mount. He was 
crucified because He said, "Woe unto you, hypocrite Pharisee." But 
there has not been one denunciation of communism by any American 
preacher who went to a Communist country. He may have said about 
Jesus the most beautiful things in the world. I have attended their 
sermons. No one of them has come to say, "Communism is a crime. 
You have conmiitted the crime to kill millions of my brethren. I am 
on the side of the martyrs and against the oppressors, I am for 
religious liberty." 

This they should have said, and, "I protest against the crime that 
you poison the children and the youths with atheism." 

If he would have said this, after 5 minutes he would have been 
driven out of the country. That is one thing. 

So I think that preachers who go there without saying this truth 
are not faithful to Christ. Christ, if he would go to Yugoslavia or 
Poland or Rumania or Russia, would say this, as he has said it in 
Jerusalem 2,000 years before. Rarely faithful Americaji preachers also 
come. I can give you a name. An American, Dr. Starmer, the head of 
the Baptist mission in Italy, came to Bucharest. I was there. He has 
been formerly the head of the Baptist seminary in Bucharest, so he 
understood Rumanian. He could not speak it, but he understood 
everything. And now he came to preach. Translated for him a 
Rumanian Baptist who is known as an archtraitor, a stooge of the 
Communists. Starmer preached the truth and Popa translated what he 
liked. Starmer understood Rumanian and there was a public scene. 
He turned to his translator and protested. "I have not said this. You 
mistranslated." But he could do nothing else, and so it went on like a 
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I contest that anybody can go to any Communist countries, even to 
Poland, which is the best one, and say the full Christian truth, which 
always includes the condemnation of conamunism, of its atheism, of its 
terror, and be free to preach and be translated correctly. A diluted 
Gospel, in which you say a few nice things, this you can preach. 

Mr. Smith. Before the Communists came to power in Rumania, 
were there any persons who foresaw and warned about what would 
happen to religion under the Communists? 

Mr. WuRMBRAND. Oh, yes; we have had great personalities. We 
had in the Orthodox Church Metropolitan Gurie, the metropolitan 
of Bessarabia, who was a very active anti-Communist fighter. He 
finished as many American anti-Communists finish. He was besmeared . 
He was a man who thought only about God and fatherland. And he 
was besmeared to have stolen. He had a huge administration with 
hundreds of employees and he passed his time in prayer and preaching 
instead of controlling books. So they finished with him simply. All 
Christians in Rumania knew him to be honest. I could tell you many 
such facts. Besmearing is one of the great weapons of communism. I 
wonder what they will say about me, but they will surely find out 
something to besmear me. They will find some tool of theirs in the 
church for this. 

When I testified before the Senate, the next day the Rumanian 
Communist newspaper of America published about me, "Oh, 
Wurmbrand, what is he? He has a German name. So he surely has 
been in prison as a Nazi. And when he spoke about fatherland, he 
said it with a German accent 'Vaterland,' so he is a German and he 
has been in prison for nazism." 

Then I wrote to them a letter and 1 said, "Please excuse me, but 
I am a Jew. So if I would have liked to be a Nazi, Hitler would not 
have accepted me, in any case." And the whole thing was finished. 
But they will find something else, that I am an adulterer, a thief, 
a traitor, a burglar, a murderer. Something they wiU find, and people 
will believe. 

Mr. Smith. Prior to the Communist rule of your country, do you 
have any information as to whether there was any Communist infil- 
tration into Rumanian churches? 

Mr. Wurmbrand. I am very thankful that you put this question, 
and I will give you facts. I have here in the audience several Rumanian 
friends and great personalities. I have here Dr. Brutus Coste, who 
would be perhaps Prime Minister of Rumania, if Rumania would be 
free, and he can confirm the facts quoted by me as weU as my role in 
Rumania. 

Professor Constantinescu lashi was one of the best known theo- 
logical professors of Rumania. When the Communists came to power, 
he became Communist Minister of Culture, a member of the Com- 
munist government. People opened their eyes and asked, "But how? 
You have prepared for ministry thousands of priests. How is it?" 
He answered, "I have been sent by the Communist Party in the 
theological seminary." 

Bende, the secretary of the Protestant seminary in Cluj in the 
capitalist times, says that he has been sent by the party there to pre- 
pare the students in the radical sense. 

When the Communists came to power in Rumania, Orthodox priests, 
Riosheanu, Patrashcoiu, and others, appeared dressed at once as 



546 THE NEW COMMUNIST PROPAGANDA LINE ON RELIGION 

colonels of the secret police and arrested and beat their parishioners. 
When the parishioners asked them, "But how is this possible? This is a 
nightmare. You have been my priest; I kissed your hand; I took the 
sacraments from you," they answered: "You dupes, you idiots, the 
Communist Party has sent us in the church." 

We have surely had an infiltration. I have given you names, and we 
had it not only in the church, we had it in our state authorities, too. 
We had no FBI, but we had a Minister of Interior Afi'airs, something 
like your Hoover. His name was Ghelmegeanu. 

When the Communists came to power, every policeman of the anti- 
Communist times was put in prison and tortured. He who had been 
the head of the police became a great man with the Communists. And 
they said, "He has been our man since long." 

Surely they use this infiltration. Now I am not interested in politics, 
but I wonder about churches. Jesus has said it so clearly, "Beware of 
wolves dressed in sheepskins." And now I have asked the church 
leaders, "You are my leader, I am a very little and insignificant pastor. 
Wrongly, a halo has been created about around me just because I 
made 14 years of prison. But I know I am very insignificant, and I am 
below an average Christian. You are a church leader. Tell me, from 
what have I to beware? Who are these wolves dress in sheepskins?" 

They couldn't tell me. These are Communists, and Communist 
fellow travelers who infiltrate in churches and everywhere and destroy 
especially the faith of the youths. 

My son, who studies now psychology in California, is afraid about 
what he sees. He came from an anti-Communist university in Bucha- 
rest. I call it so because aU the students in Rumania are anti-Com- 
munists. And here, he hears the praises of communism in the 
University of California at Los Angeles. Four Soviet motion pictures 
are shown every month, attended by the students. In Bucharest, Soviet 
motion pictures are boycotted. Nobody goes to look at them. 

Americans don't permit trade with Red China. Now how do the 
books of Mao Tse-tung on which it is written "printed in Peking" 
arrive to America? They are sold in the University of Cahfornia for 
a dollar apiece. And the students buy it. How does it arrive? Does no 
poUce see it? 

Then my son wrote a letter to Reagan — my son is very young — and 
he said, "Mr. Reagan, I am the son of a pastor who has been 14 years 
in Communist prisons and I thought, as you, too, may be in a Com- 
munist prison very soon, to give you some information how a Com- 
munist prison is, and I will tell you why you will be in a Communist 
prison. If you will aUow that the youth should be trained as it is 
trained here, with such motion pictures, with the books of Mao 
Tse-tung, and inscriptions on the waUs, 'American murderers,' and 
all these things, then surely they will become Communists." And 
dear Reagan, or someone in his name, answered with a beautiful 
letter to my son, in which he thanked him and he says, "I know all 
these things. And I try myself to do the best against it." I quote 
from memory. 

Horrible things are happening here. America is now my second 
fatherland. First of aU, every man who loves freedom has two father- 
lands, his own and America, because if America falls, then there is no 
hope for freedom for anybody in the world. Secondly, America is my 
home now. And I must say that my heart bleeds for America. My 
heart bleeds when I see this apathy towards the Communist menace. 



THE NEW COMMUNIST PROPAGANDA LINE ON RELIGION 547 

Mr. Smith. Did the Communists in your country incite racial 
hatred? 

Mr. WuRMBRAND. Oh, surely. The Communist Party of Rumania 
had in her program the right of self-determination of every province. 
In Rumania, we have many national minorities. We have the Hun- 
garians, Bulgarians, and Turks. We have in Bessarabia Russians and 
Ukrainians. But we formed into one state, one nation. They said to 
the Transylvanians, you should secede from Rumania, and you, the 
Bessarabians, should secede, and to others, you should secede. And 
there have been rebellions organized by them. 

For example, in Bessarabia, they profited of some justified dis- 
satisfactions which always exist and incited this hatred. They organ- 
ized a bloody riot in Tatar-Bunar. Some of the national minorities 
believed them. The Communists came to power. Then something very 
interesting happened. I was in the prison of Tirgul-Ocna, and the 
commandant of the prison told me, "Now, Mr. Wurmbrand, you see, 
you have suffered under the Nazis. The Nazis were so bad and per- 
secuted the Jews. We are not like this. Just look around you in the 
prison. You have in prison Rumanians, Hungarians, Russians, Jews, 
we put everybody in prison. We make no racial difference." 

Here in America, you may have racial dissatisfactions, riots, and 
difference. When the Communists will come to power, Mr. Brown 
and Mr. Carmichael and their white opponents and the fighters for 
civil rights wiW. be together in the same prison. There will be a full 
integration, I promise you. There will be no black power, nor white 
power. There will be dictatorship over black and white. 

Mr. Smith. Are there any American citizens being detained by 
force in Rumania at the present time? 

Mr. Wurmbrand. Yes. After my information, something like 40- 
50 American citizens, American-born, are hindered to leave Rumania. 
I have given the names to the State Department through Senators 
and Congressmen. I have received also the answer. Many inter- 
ventions have been made by the State Department and by the 
American Embassy in Bucharest to allow them to leave the country. 
They are not allowed to leave. Ask yourself why were they not 
allowed to leave, when I was allowed, although I had not the Amer- 
ican state behind me. 

Mr. Smith. Why are they being detained? 

Mr. Wurmbrand. Why are they being detained? I can tell you 
what they wished in my case and in the case of the Jews they sold. 
They wish money. It is generally known that they have made slave 
trade ^nth Jews. The one who took the money was Corneliu Manescu, 
a Jewish Communist, but an anti-Semite, a traitor to his own race. 
He is our [Rumania's] Secretary of State [Foreign Ministerl. This slave 
trader wnll be, with the vote of U.S.A., president of the next Assembly 
of the organization of United Nations. 

Mr. Smith. You mean, they are holding these people for ransom? 

Mr. Wurmbrand. The precedent with the Jews makes me believe 
this. 

And now what I wonder very much about is that Americans are 
selling now a steel mill to Rumania. I read, I could not check it, 
that you are giving to Rumania enriched uranium, too. You help Fiat 
make a car plant there. 



548 THE NEW COMMUNIST PROPAGANDA LINE ON RELIGION 

Now, if the Americans would say, "I give you a steel miU. I give 
you something, you give me also something. You need badly the steel 
mill . Give me my 50 citizens." They would have them immediately. 

With a gangster, you can't speak in another manner. The American 
citizens could very easily be obtained if this condition would be put. 
I have seen bridges buUt. I have spoken to the engineers. Bridges are 
always built from two sides. You can't build a bridge from one side. 
I keep your citizen here by force and you buUd a bridge towards me 
and give me money. 1 never speak politics. But I have to put a ques- 
tion. I hear Rumania gets a car plant, so Russia. Communist coun- 
tries get loans and many goods. The same countries say that they 
support North Vietnam against Americans. In the end it appears 
that American boys are killed with American dollars. That is my im- 
pression. But I don't speak out on politics. I just happened to think 
of it. 

Mr. Smith. Are these American people charged with any crime 
or given any reason for this detention? 

Mr. WuRMBRAND. No. They are American-born citizens. They 
have lived long in Rumania and Rumania does not acknowledge their 
American citizenship, although they are Americans just like you. 

Mr. Smith. Two of the principal foreign proponents of a dialogue 
between Communists and Christians are Josef Hromadka of Czecho- 
slovakia and Roger Garaudy of France, whom we have previously 
mentioned. 

Mr. WuRMBRAND. Yes. 

Mr. Smith. Both of these men have been recently in the United 
States lecturing at many universities on the merits and necessity of a 
dialogue between Communists and Christians. What is your opinion 
of their activities hi this respect? Is it deceptive? 

Mr. WuRMBRAND. I have promised to myself in witnessing to give 
no opinions, but only facts. On the 10th of July there was a convention 
of the Lutheran Church, Missouri Synod. It was attended by Dr. 
Mihalko, chairman of the Commission on Worship and Spiritual Life 
of the Lutheran World Federation. He is a Czech oslovankian. This 
man declared previously in a dialogue, "Socialism represents high 
moral values and pursues honestly humanistic goals. Socialism has 
not liquidated the church and has not persecuted it." 

And then again, "It has not misused the church for its purposes." 

Mihalko asserted that socialism has not persecuted the church. Then 
Kosygin and Brezhnev are liars, because they say in the Soviet press, 
"We persecute the church." They say, "We have created the atheistic 
school of the irreconcilable." They say, "We have taken away children 
from their mothers only because they are Christians." And Mihalko, 
Hromadka, and Nikodim come to tell us that there is no persecution. 
Niemoeller has been here, the vice chairman of the World Council 
of Churches. I happened to be in Norway at the same time with 
him. He came to Norway, having a schedule to preach. On the first 
day he said in an interview that communism has made no martyrs 
more since 1920. I answered in the press, asking NiemoeUer: "Have 
you ever heard about Cardinal Mindszenty? Was he arrested before 
or after 1920? Have you ever heard about Cardinal Beran? Have 
you not heard about Eastern German Protestant pastors, pastors of 
your fatherland, arrested after 1920? Why do you lie?" Then the 
newspaper called him and said, "You have at your disposal our 



THE NEW COMMUNIST PROPAGANDA LINE ON RELIGION 549 

columns to answer to Wurmbrand." He said, "I have no time." And, 
though scheduled to preach in Norway, he simply fled. 

They have no answers. The facts can't be contradicted. I can be 
contradicted. About me they can say whatever they like. I will never 
answer them. I acknowledge beforehand that they may be better men 
than I am. But their "facts" are lies. Hromadka went to see Mikoyan. 
Now usually, it is said that Stalin has committed crimes. Who has 
been his henchmen? Mikoyan has been the right hand of Stalin and 
Khrushchev and Brezhnev and Kosygin. 

Now you have before you Mikoyan or Podgorny, and you are a 
Christian. I would also talk with Mikoyan and would tell him to 
repent of his crimes and to become a Christian, but they just smiled 
at each other, congratulated each other for peace, and so on. 

I can't admit that the Hromadkas are Christians. I can't accept 
them. May God forgive them. May God recognize them as Christians; 
I can't recognize the one who trods on the blood of martyrs. 

Mr. Smith. Reverend Wurmbrand, do you have any information 
as to the attitudes of Russian and Rumanian inamigrants in this 
country respecting the Communist regime's persecution of religion 
in their own countries? 

Mr. Wurmbrand. Well, most of the immigrants are surely patriots 
and they love their country of origin and they have the Christian 
point of view. There are some who try to compromise with the Com- 
munist government. These have very interesting experiences. 

I have here a declaration which I will depose in the file, by a 
Rumanian, Theodorescu from Detroit. He saith in his declaration, 
"I was attracted by what I was told, that there everything has 
mellowed, and so on, so I wished to go back to Rumania and I pre- 
sented myself to the Rumanian Embassy. The Rumanian Embassy 
said, 'Oh, if you wish to go back that is perfectly all right, but you 
must prove to us your loyalty first. And you must prove it in three 
manners: 

" 'First of all, go to Munich and spy out who are the Rumanians 
who give information to Radio Free Europe. Secondly, you will go to 
Yugoslavia and will find out what Rumanian groups transport anti- 
Communist literature. You must find Jon Chirila, an anti-Communist 
who attacked the legation in Bern in '55, and either you must kidnap 
him or you must kill him, and then we will accept you.' " 

Whatever Rumanian or Russian or so enters in relationship with 
Communist consulates, has the same experience. I have been in prison 
with several repatriated emigrants. I recall one, the Colonel Baiulescu, 
who has been an emigrant and who had believed the stories about 
mellowing. He came back to Rumania, I swear before God that I tell 
you exactly the fact as it happened. He had been a major in the royal 
army. When he came back, they gave him the uniform of a colonel; 
they photographed him as such and they put the picture in the 
Rumanian newspaper. They sent him from place to place to deliver 
lectures about how bad it is in the West and how happy he is to be now 
in a Communist country. And after he has delivered all these lectures, 
he got 20 years of prison. 

Mr. Tuck. The House of Representatives is now in session, and we 
will have to terminate this hearing pretty quickly. I understand that 
you probably have a closing statement that you would like to make. 

Mr. Wurmbrand. Yes; a closing statement of just a few minutes. 



550 THE NEW COMMUNIST PROPAGANDA LINE ON RELIGION 

I have many other facts about the persecution in Byelorussia, in 
Lithuania. In Albania, they have closed all the churches. In Red 
China, there exists not one church. In Cuba, they take out first blood 
of those executed, and so on, but I will leave aU these things. I wish 
to make just a last statement. 

I know that the Communists will react very violently against 
what I have done today. They have threatened me before I left 
Rumania and they have their friends here; they have their friends 
even in the churches. They wiR say many bad things about me. I 
acknowledge beforehand that all the evil which they wiU say about 
me is true. 

I don't wish to appear as self-righteous. I am not a better man than 
the Communists. I have been from youth an anarchical element. I 
have been brought up without any religion and until the age of 27 
I hated all those whom the Communist hate. I admired Lenin and 
Marx just for one thing, for being atheists and I gladly would have 
suffered for atheism. But I hated Communists, too. I hated everybody. 
I have had a very bitter youth, and this has produced in me this. 
So that anybody can say about me whatever they like, and it wiU 
be true. Only the blood of Christ washed my sins and cured me from 
hatred, putting love instead, even love towards the Communists as 
men. 

Since I am a Christian, I have been a very weak Christian. I have 
also committed many sins of a Christian being. I have not arrived to 
be a saint. So they can attack me, and I will never answer to any 
personal attack, but will say always, "You have said less sins about 
me than these which I have reaUy committed." 

But nobody in the world can deny what I say about the persecution 
of Christians and Jews happening today. Nobody in the world! They 
may say about Wurmbrand whatever they like. I will not even answer 
them. My answer is these facts. I answer with the blood of the 
martyrs which cries like the blood of Abel. God will ask the church 
leaders who compromise with communism: "Cain, where is your 
brother, Abel?" The facts presented by me can't be contradicted. 

Let the members of the Communist Party, let the clergymen who 
believe that there is liberty in the Soviet camp, let them write to me, 
and I will give them other facts. 

I have published now a book Today's Martyred Church, Tortured 
for Christ. 

A second book, Wurmhrand's Letters, will appear next week. A 
book, published by Coward McCann, Christ in Communist Prisons, 
will also appear soon and will give new facts. 

I defy any political leader who says that communism has softened 
and mellowed to contradict these facts of '66 and '67, which I have 
brought. 

Just a minute more. I assert that never has the persecution in the 
Communist camp been so bad as now. Two-thirds of the Communist 
camp is Red China. Never in the whole history of communism have 
ministers been buried alive as it happened in Ten Sheen now. Never 
in the history of communism have all the churches of a country been 
closed as it happened now in Red China and in Albania. 

I didn't arrive to speak to you about Bulgaria or Poland, and so on. 
Communism rules one-third of the world. I spoke to you about the 
suffering of one-third of the world. One-third of the world should be 



THE NEW COMMUNIST PROPAGANDA LINE ON RELIGION 551 

one-third of your religious services, one-third of your prayers, one- 
third of your gifts, one-third of your concerns, one-third of your 
sermons. 

Allow me to tell you that in Communist prisons, I have seen pris- 
oners with 50-pound chains at their feet, praying for America and for 
its churches. Every night we prayed, and now I go from church to 
church in America and seldom I hear even a prayer or a mentioning 
of those who have 50-pound chains at their feet, because they fight 
for God, for liberty, and for the preservation of America, too. And 
therefore I appeal to all the churches to rank-and-file church members 
and to leaders, I appeal to patriotic organizations to publish these 
facts and all the other facts which they can find in my books, which 
they can have simply by writing to me at Post Office Box 11, Glendale, 
California 91209. I ask them to arrange public protests. There have 
been hundreds of clergymen who have protested against the war in 
Vietnam, but against lalHng of Christians there have been no picket- 
ing, no public protests. I ask them to organize this. I don't ask them 
to send support to the organization to which I belong, but make it 
that your church should help famihes of Christian martyrs, should 
help the underground church with Bibles. There should be a prayer 
campaign. No church service in which the martyrs are not mentioned 
is vahd before God. 

I forgot in prison the Lord's Prayer. We were doped. My mind 
was destroyed. I couldn't say an "Our Father." We needed your 
prayers. Tne underground church is the only organized resistance 
against communism and it should have the help of the Christians and 
of the patriots of America. 

I thank the committee very much, because it gave me this possi- 
bihty to show all these facts. I value this commission very much. I 
wonder about one thing. I sought in Los Angeles and in Washington 
from one bookshop to another the records of the hearings of this com- 
mittee and couldn't find them in bookshops. But these facts should be 
largelj^ published and so we should stop the hands of the murderers of 
Christians and of Jews, because I love the Christians, I love the Jews, 
and I love the murderers, too. My last word should be about a Jew, 
the rabbi of Lyubavich. When the police agents of the Communists 
pointed a gun at him, they said, "This little toy has made many a 
man change his mind." And the rabbi of Lyubavich calmly replied, 
"This little toy can intimidate only that kind of man who has many 
gods, his passions, and but one world, this world; but I have only one 
God and two worlds. I am not impressed by this little toy." 

Neither is the Christian church impressed by all the terror of the 
Communists. Christ will be the victor m the Communist camp, too. 

I thank you very much. 

God bless you! 

Mr. Tuck. We thank you very much for your most interesting and 
informative testimony. As chairman of the subcommittee, I would like 
to say that I wish that every man and woman in America could hear 
what you have to say. 

Mr. RouDEBusH. I want to also join in complimenting the reverend 
for coming before our committee and giving excellent testimony. 

I am delighted that you did give us this mformation so we can print 
it and place it in the hands of the Congress and the public. 



552 THE NEW COMMUNIST PROPAGANDA LINE ON RELIGION 

Mr. WuRMBRAND. God bless you and God bless America! 

Mr. Tuck. The subcommittee wi\l stand in recess until called 
together again by the chairman. 

(Whereupon, at 12:45 p.m., Thursday, August 10, 1967, the sub- 
committee adjourned, to reconvene at the call of the Chair.) 



INDEX 



INDIVIDUALS 

A Page 

Af tenie 537 

Alexandra _ 540 

Aptheker, Herbert 509-511, 514, 520, 527, 529, 533, 537, 538 

B 

Baiulescu 549 

Balautza 540 

Bale, Alexander ■ 518 

Bende 508, 545 

Beran, (Josef) Cardinal 548 

Bohn 529 

Borovoi : 511, 538 

Brezhnev (Leonid) 520, 548, 549 

Browder, Earl 507, 514 

Brown (H. Rap) 547 

Bundarenko 530 

C 

Carmichael (Stokely) 547 

Ceaushescu (Nicolae) 523 

Cemak, Matus " 523 

Chirila, Jon 549 

Coste, Brutus 545 

D 

de GauUe (Charles) 533, 534 

Deutsch, Jr 519 

Dinisiu, Peter 518 

Djilas 520 

Durkowitz, ^ 537 

E 
Einstein (Albert) 542 

G 

Gabrielescu 540 

Galdau 519 

Gannett, Betty 527 

Garaudy, Roger 510,511,514,538,548 

Georgescu, Teohari 527 

Ghelbegeanu 540 

Ghelmegeanu 546 

Groza, Petru 527 

Gurie (Metropolitan) 545 

H 

Haimavici, Milan 5 18 

HaU, Gus 511, 514, 537 

Hartfeld . 529 

Hedenquist, Gote 519 

HeUer 520 

Hoover (Herbert) 546 

Hrapov ^ 529,530 

Hromadka, Josef 548, 549 

Hutorin 532 

i 



ii INDEX 

I Page 

lashi, Constantinescu 508, 545 

Irina 540 

Istvan 540 

J 

Janos 540 

Johnson (Lyndon B.) 525 

K 
Karev 535 

Khrushchev (Nikita Sergeevich) 520, 549 

Knutson, Myrus 516, 518 

Kostov (Ivan) 537 

Kosygin (Aleksei) 510, 520, 533, 538, 540, 548, 549 

Kovar, Jaroslav 523 

Kulunda, Hmaraof 532 

L 

Lazarev 533 

Lenin (V.L) 507, 513, 514, 539, 550 

Leopold, Marcel 523 

Leul, Vasile 522 

Luca, Vasile 510 

M 

Makrinkova 533 

Manescu, Corneliu 547 

Mao Tse-tung 546 

Marx (Karl) 520 

Mihalko 548 

Mikoyan ( Anastas Ivanovich) 520, 549 

Mindszenty, (Joseph) Cardinal 548 

Murray 533 

N 

Nee, Watchman 537 

Niemoller (Martin) 548 

Nikodim 538,548 

Nikolai (Metropolitan) 531 

O 

Orlov, M 535 

Oswald (Lee Harvey) 525 

Overtshuk 530 

P 

Patraschoiu 508, 545 

Patrashcanu 510 

Pauker, Ana 510, 521, 537 

Persis (Mrs.) 533 

Pimen ( Metropolitan) 535 

Podgorny (Nikolai V.) 528, 549 

Popa 544 

Pope Paul VI 528 

Prokofiev 529 

R 

Rajk (Laszlo) 537 

Reagan (Ronald) 546 

Reuterswarde, von Patrick 521 

Riosheanu 508, 545 

Romanov, Vassily 528 

Ruby (Jack) 525 

Ruzicka, Josef 523 



INDEX iii 

S Page 

Schoenf eld 519 

Sitsh, Antonina Ivanovna 510, 532 

Sitsh, Leonid 532 

Sitsh, Vsetsheslav 532 

Solheim, Magne 518, 519 

Stalin (Josef) 507,514,520,549 

Stalina, Svetlana 519, 535 

Starmer 544 

Stauflfer, Paul 523 

Sturdy 516 

Suharto 538 

Sviridov, Kolya 532 

T 

Theodorescu 549 

Tito 520 

Tobias, Robert 518 

Trotsky (Leon) 537 

Trutza, Peter 519 

Tse-tung, Mao. (See Mao Tse-tung.) 

V 

Velitchko 530 

Vishinsky 527 

von Reuterswarde, Patrick. {See Reuterswarde, von Patrick.) 

W 

Wanninger, Christa 523 

Warenzoff, Marshal 532 

Wurmbrand, Richard. __ 507-511, 515, 516-552 (testimony) 

Wyszynski, (Stefan) Cardinal 534 

Y 

Yakimenko, Maria 530 

Z 

Zaitshenko 530 

Zelenka, Jindrich 523 

Zhuko V, Alexander 528 

Zinoviev (Grigori) 537 

ORGANIZATIONS 

American Lutheran Church 516 

Army of the Lord, The 541 

Awakened, The (Baptist underground) 541 

B 

Bethanists (Presbyterian underground) 541 

British European Christian Missions 533 

Brotherly Fellowship of Christian Youth 529 



Communist Party of the United States of America 507, 510, 514, 515 

National Conventions and Conferences: 

Eighteenth Convention, June 22-26, 1966, New York City 515 

Communist Party, Rumania. (See Rumanian Workers' (Communist) 

Party.) 
Communist Party, Soviet Union: 

Institute of Scientific Atheism 507, 510, 537 

E 
European Christian Mission 517 



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F 

Page 

Friends of Israel Missionary Society 518 

H 
Hebrew-Christian Alliance 517 

I 

International Christian Hebrew Alliance 519 

Institute of Scientific Atheism. {See entry under Communist Party, Soviet 
Union.) 

L 
Lutheran World Federation 518, 548 

M 
Mission to Europe's Millions 517, 533 

N 

NATO. (See North Atlantic Treaty Organization.) 

National Council of the Churches of Christ in the U.S. A 524 

North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) 516 

Norwegian Israel's Mission 517, 518 

R 
Rumanian Workers' (Conimunist) Party 527, 547 

U 

Underground Evangelism 517 

Union of Evangelical Christian Baptists of the USSR 535 

United States Government: 

State Department 547 

University of California at Los Angeles 546 

W 

WCC. (See World Council of Churches.) 

W. E. B. DuBois Clubs (of America) 514 

World Council of Churches (WCC) 518, 524, 531, 538, 548 

PUBLICATIONS 

D 

Der Untergang des Judentums (The End of Judaism) (Heller) (book) 520 

H 
Herald of Salvation, The (magazine) 529, 530 

J 
Jewish Question, The (Marx) (book) 520 

P 
Political AfiFairs (July 1966) 514, 527 

T 
Today's Martyred Church, Tortured for Christ (Wurmbrand) (book)__ 531, 550 

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